[12:27] manchicken: edgy to feisty upgrade needs testing yes [12:29] Riddell: I'm already on feisty. [12:29] Riddell: I still don't know what's causing that segfault in adept_updater. [12:29] It works fine in adept_manager..... [12:37] Riddell: to test edgy -> feisty upgrade besides add your repo do i have to do antyhing special? i think you mentioned something about building a .deb in an email === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I just sent you some updated patches, more information is in the mail. === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] !info kdebase feisty [12:47] kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 96 kB === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@203-59-202-108.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] hi, any reason the disk partitioner in herd5 wont let me select a partition size smaller than 79.7 GB? [12:54] ubuntu: the guy who will be able to tell you that probably wont be online, as i'ts the weekend. his name is cjwatson [12:54] ok [12:54] also on the manual partition its not clear how one would create a new partition [12:54] (not a new partition table) [12:55] anyone know who helmuth.s@gmx.li is? [12:55] he's asking me to fix his sound, has no information apart from it not working, and as for why he's emailed me, i'll never know. [12:56] Was there another link on the email? [12:56] I get a lot of spam that kinda looks like that. [12:57] does the herd5 installer support upgrading my 6.10? [12:57] ubuntu: try #kubuntu for support, please [12:57] manchicken: no, no other links [12:58] Hallo, [12:58] first of all- thank You for Ubuntu !!! [12:58] I have no sound. [12:58] sound from Knoppix 4.0 Live CD is OK [12:58] sound from Ubuntu 7.0 Live CD exists but with strong scratching [12:58] sound from Ubuntu 7.0 HD installation: no sound [12:58] therefore i must run XP :-(( but i m sure, You will solve the problem. Thank You! [12:58] kind regards [12:58] Helmuth Supik [12:58] Heh. [12:58] lol [12:59] lol [12:59] I still think it's funny when people complain about development versions when they're not developing anything. === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] It seems like we try really hard to make it obvious, and they try really hard to ignore the warnings ^_^ [01:01] hehe [01:01] wallpaper would help [01:02] but i mean...why try to report a bug to one developer via private email? [01:02] it's not even on a mailing list! [01:02] ohhh....it's probably a guy from kubuntu-users mailing list, tog et my email. === Hobbsee shrugs [01:02] or they've gone to launchpad to get it. which seems more likely, based on what it is [01:03] i've gotten an email like that before, in russian [01:04] alleeEdgy32: you around? [01:04] who works on digikam, again? [01:04] KNetworkManager is really nice :-o [01:04] allee i think [01:04] btw it's still not back by default? [01:04] correct [01:04] at the moment, iirc [01:05] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/89566 [01:05] Malone bug 89566 in digikam "digikam has dependency on libdigikam-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:05] oh wait... === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee notices a distinct increase in spam from joining the kubuntu-users mailing list... [01:09] well, more than's getting thru gmail, anyway [01:09] gmail's stopping 1243 from the last 30 days. not too bad. [01:10] Hobbsee: the desktop bugs week idea [01:10] yuriy: yep [01:10] i was thinking maybe organize it for the week after next [01:11] we should probably ask tonio_ if he can be in a bug fixing mood around then [01:12] are we just going to triage the bugs, or fix them? [01:14] well hopefully both :) but i was going more for the triaging aspect. it depends on the number of people we get [01:15] i'd like to do some fixing myself if we can recruit some more people to do the triaging === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@203-59-202-108.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] another possible bug for the partitioning guy: i went through the resize process, and its been sitting at 0% for "resizing partiton..." for the last 10 minutes or so :-/ [01:20] ok not it went from 0%->100% in about 2 seconds [01:20] *now === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:25] What does triaging a bug entail? [01:27] manchicken: well, it's difficult to assess the vitals of an insect using conventional emergency room equiptment [01:27] you would want to immediately get a monitor on the SpO2 though [01:27] heh [01:27] and begin oxygen therapy and morphine [01:28] Would triaging the bug possibly help determine the cause, not just where it's crashing? [01:28] yeah [01:28] well first would be figuring out if the bug report is "valid" [01:28] i.e. can one reproduce it [01:28] or if it is more likely that the issue arised from user error [01:28] and once you get past that stage, definitely trying to hunt down the cause would be good :) [01:29] Riddell: Has the fix for the status column thing been committed? === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442f5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] Silly timezones. [01:34] manchicken: MS is charging 4000 to update that :D [01:34] for extended-support-cycle products [01:34] Charging 4K to fix what? [01:34] Oh, the recent timezone patches? [01:35] I was referring to Riddell being 6 hours ahead of me. [01:36] Timezone patches should be required by law, since they're actually changed by law. [01:37] If politicians want to change timezones, they need to provide us with laws that force proprietary software fascists to provide those patches free of charge. [01:39] yuriy: I fixed Bug #82431, but I'm not sure if it's committed yet. [01:39] Malone bug 82431 in adept "supported column disappears when package expanded" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82431 [01:40] hi all [01:41] manchicken: nice :) good luck with the segfault [01:41] yuriy: Wanna help figure it out? I've been fighting it forever. I can't figure it out. [01:42] manchicken: don't really know how to use gdb etc. :( also, doing hw [01:43] manchicken: wasn't there some other bug that was happening in the updater and not the manager (or vice versa) [01:43] that was fixed [01:48] manchicken: if we got people to triage the adept bugs, and get enough info, etc, do you feel like going and fixing them all? [01:49] Hobbsee: I'll fix as many as I can. :) [01:49] manchicken: cool. yuriy, i think that's our first === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@203-59-202-108.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] Our first what? [01:56] Am I the first sucker who agreed to play Orkin man on our precious adept? [01:57] brb [02:00] manchicken|away: I believe they meant "first bug to be fixed by you :o)" [02:04] mhb: I think it's the third or so. [02:05] mhb: I also fixed the one with the kubuntu-updater wizard crashing. [02:05] manchicken: well, you still get me wrong [02:06] "first bug fixed by you and submitted by yuriy&hobbsee" [02:07] Ah! [02:07] Hobbsee: If bugs are assigned to me, I promise to give them a good looking at. [02:08] Hobbsee: I can't guarantee a fix every time, but I can promise to look ^_^ [02:08] manchicken: *grin* [02:08] manchicken: well, we can find you the adept bug list, then you can fix whatever you like [02:08] I'm still not smart like JR or those smart people who fixed the debconf issue. [02:08] heh [02:08] then again, if we assign them to you, then you'll be under pressure to fix them :P [02:08] heh. i'm not either [02:09] Well if there are big problems I can look at them. [02:09] i though Hobbsee meant our first recruit [02:09] I think I need someone else to look at that adept_updater crash issue with the details button and changelogUrl() method. [02:10] I'm gonna have to move on with that one for a little while. It's insane how much time I've spent running in circles on that one. === neutraloss [n=neutralo@cpe-24-59-116-7.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] manchicken: that's fine, there are still bugs left :) [02:18] Yup [02:18] Assign away :) [02:19] I'm gonna see if any filed bugs about this changelog crash have any more information for me. [02:23] Hobbsee, dearie, what think you of bug #55549? [02:23] Malone bug 55549 in adept "No safety from breaking system with Adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55549 [02:23] That sounds like a great topic for UDS === Hobbsee is *not* dearie. [02:23] heh === Hobbsee looks === manchicken dodges the doom-stick [02:23] makes it sound like you're addressing my grandmother or something [02:23] heh [02:23] or great one. who is non-existant. [02:24] Naw, I'm playing this game with insane word-play. === Hobbsee DOOMS manchicken into fixing all the bugs in kubuntu [02:24] Just got me a little silly, eh? [02:24] heh [02:25] manchicken: well, a) we cant really block people getting rid of kubuntu-desktop. b) that already ahppens for essential stuff, and c) the way adept handles "breaks" is terrible, and needs fixing. [02:27] +1 for c [02:27] c++ :D [02:27] hehe :) [02:29] Well, I thought that this particular bug report may have a simple usability fix. [02:29] which is? [02:29] show the user what's breaking, and suggest how to fix it? [02:29] I think the problem with this one is that adept was being smart. He wasn't expecting things to change like that, but he hit the button without checking. [02:30] If we show them the changes to take place and say "really make these changes?" that might help. [02:30] I don't like silly questions any more than the next guy, but if it has a "don't show me again" on it it may really help. [02:31] Hobbsee: I'm on the UDS-Sevilla/Attendees list ^_^ [02:31] manchicken: woo! :D [02:31] manchicken: true [02:32] That flight is going to scare the fsck out of me. [02:32] really? [02:32] I hate flying. [02:32] where's that list? [02:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla/Attendees [02:35] manchicken: flying's not so evil [02:35] besides, your flight wont be that far, will it? [02:35] 12 hours I suspect [02:36] I'm just east of the middle of the USA. Quite some distance from Espana. [02:38] Okay, I'm gonna go pretend I'm 12 again and play video games while drinking beer in bed... except that when I was 12 I think it was more like sugary pop instead of beer. [02:39] Oh, Hobbsee, did you see that article I put up on my blog? [02:39] About Riverbed Technology? [02:39] Pretty hilarious. === Hobbsee looks [02:40] manchicken: about the FSF stuff? there was only 1 in the last couple of days? [02:41] Naw.... I'll link.... [02:42] http://blog.notsosoft.net/2007/general/worlds-dumbest-hr-recruiter-email.html [02:42] And don't forget to digg ^_^ [02:43] manchicken: by the way, what bug do you need help with? [02:43] mhb: I'm not sure if it's got a number yet... it probably needs one. [02:44] manchicken: describe it then :o) [02:45] Bug #85056 may be related. [02:45] Malone bug 85056 in adept "adept_updater try's to fetch changelog from other package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85056 [02:45] manchicken: haha [02:45] Okay, so when you fire up adept_updater, if you click the "Details" button, it crashes. [02:45] Hobbsee: You like that? [02:46] Hobbsee: I asked my dad what to do about it, he said "you've got a blog, don't you?" [02:46] heh [02:46] manchicken: *grin* === Hobbsee should blog. [02:47] I had a dry spell there for a little bit. [02:54] Okay, Bug #87046 is the bug number for this. [02:54] Malone bug 87046 in adept "Crash when 'details' is clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87046 [02:54] I've confirmed the issue. [02:55] I assigned it to myself out of guilt. [02:55] heh [02:55] can I reproduce it if there's nothing to update? [02:56] Ooh, a bad merge made it into a release!! [02:56] QSettings: malformed line '<<<<<<< TREE' in group 'Settings' [02:56] QSettings: malformed line '>>>>>>> MERGE-SOURCE' in group 'Settings' [02:56] vmware-player-kernel-modules [02:57] mhb: I don't believe so. [02:57] damn, I just updated [02:57] mhb: Try apt-get source --compile for a package and install the deb. That should make it so something needs to be installed. [02:57] Maybe just a small proggy. [02:57] manchicken: what you describe sounds like the bug 89514 [02:57] Malone bug 89514 in kubuntu-default-settings "polyesterstylerc contains merge junk (in feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89514 [02:58] Similar, but not the same. [02:58] happens here too [02:58] that's what bzr looks like when it finds merge conflicts. [02:58] manchicken: yes [02:58] I would recognize it anywhere because it's so f-ing ugly. [02:58] ^_^ [02:59] manchicken: it's supposed to be ugly [02:59] True. === praetor__ [n=vladi@203-59-202-108.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] It could be more descriptive though. [02:59] mmm, damn [02:59] e.g. version numbers [02:59] Have you seen how svn does merge conflicts? [02:59] It's beautiful. [03:00] hullo [03:00] nope [03:00] heya praetor__!!! [03:00] well, there's another adept fixer :P [03:00] i just installed herd5, you guys know what packages are needed for mp3s and such? [03:00] yea adept feels pretty nice :-) [03:00] i saw my kmail export patch made it in too [03:00] heh [03:00] adept is rocking your world AND your mother. [03:01] You can't stop it. Nope. Nope. You can't stop it. === Hobbsee had something useful to blog about === Hobbsee has now forgotten it. damn. [03:01] As soon as adept_updater's use of ItemChangelog gets working without the stupid crashes it'll rock longer and harder. [03:01] i saw there is an ubuntu-restricted-extras package [03:01] praetor__: You're playing with adept, too? [03:02] but it seems to depend on gstreamer and such [03:02] manchicken: okay, I reproduced the adept_updater issue (surprise, eh?) [03:02] manchicken: i wrote the kubuntu_upgrader library [03:02] mhb: No surprise here m8 ^_^ [03:02] praetor__: Ooh! [03:02] praetor__: you're my new friend. [03:02] hah [03:02] praetor__: Got any time to look at Bug #87046 ? [03:02] Malone bug 87046 in adept "Crash when 'details' is clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87046 [03:03] praetor__: Cool... that would make it funny if you helped with 87046 ^_^ [03:04] manchicken: is this the first version the bug appears in? [03:04] praetor__: I fixed Bug #78320 [03:04] Malone bug 78320 in adept "Adept Updater crashes on update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78320 [03:05] mhb: This is new with the changelog merge... I'm not sure what release the patch was applied for. [03:05] mhb: I have it in bzr though if you're interested. [03:05] manchicken: so it works without the patch? [03:05] Yes [03:05] manchicken: well then I'd like to see it [03:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~manchicken/+branch/adept/updater-changelog-viewer [03:06] That's the branch in launchpad [03:07] manchicken: i can't reproduce that bug in adept manager, so i'll wait till theres something to update and have a look at updater [03:07] is it kubuntu_07_show_changelog.diff ? [03:07] praetor__: That's what's so damned funny. [03:07] mhb: Probably. I just submit patches, I don't package. [03:07] heh [03:07] praetor__: It doesn't break at all in adept_manager. Works like a charm. [03:07] yea weird [03:08] does kubuntu have a restricted-extras package? [03:08] praetor__: And when I looked at it in gdb it looked like it was receiving the **exact** same input. [03:08] that brings in whatever xine stuff we need for avi, mp3 and such [03:09] Why do we work with computers again? [03:09] praetor__: I don't think so [03:10] Okay, I'm going to go be a hypocrite and play with proprietary video game software now. [03:10] :o) [03:10] manchicken: what's that? [03:10] I got Phoenix Wright for my Nintendo DS. [03:11] I also run a video game blog at http://www.anyconsole.com [03:11] :o) [03:11] It's just something me and my brother set up that we're going to do alot more of after the move. [03:11] I love to fix bugs at 3am :o) [03:11] I've got 2011 [03:11] ^_^ [03:12] Okay, enough hitting my head against the brick wall. I'm gonna go play video games for real now. Later. [03:12] manchicken: if you fix the bug or make progress, let me know [03:12] mhb: Believe me, I'll make world headlines if I fix this one. [03:12] manchicken: thanks [03:13] manchicken: just poke me you did something, otherwise I never find out :o) [03:13] and see you [03:13] "The world's strangest bearded fat man gave the world's loudest jubilant scream earlier today. Property owners are suing for damages in the billions of dollars, and dog owners are furious." [03:14] Later folks. [03:24] i guess i've now officially started blogging === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:30] now i guess i need some current material [03:31] yuriy: you can say how rsync rocks over cp -u [03:32] i use unison [03:32] except that my nfs mount doesn't seem to work anymore.. === Hobbsee just got her usb stick writing at 21mb/s - when the specs say it does 9mb/s [03:33] that's for syncing 2 different pc's not for backup though (ok ok i admit it's my backup too) [03:36] hee [03:44] for now i just 'backported' a post [03:44] http://gamemank.wordpress.com/ [03:47] could not connect to host gamemank.wordpress.com.... hm... [03:48] only when clicking from konvi... === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-87-193.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] Jucato: *shrug* can't be my fault, i'm not hosting [04:10] yuriy: no. it must be konversation's fault. I can access the site directly in Konqueror [04:11] well I was just there via konnvi, but my browser is ff [04:12] I know, I should use Konq more, I know [04:13] claydoh: clicked on the link yuriy gave, said could not connect to host... [04:13] but I'm running svn anyway so... [04:13] :P [04:13] ha! now it works [04:14] so what is new in konversation in svn over 1.0.1? [04:14] hm... now that you mention it... I forgot lol [04:14] oh text background colors (ala mIRC)... but it's a bit buggy so might be taken out again [04:15] a separate notification setting for private messages [04:15] that one is nice [04:15] something i've been wanting in konvi, does the systray icon change colors when you're not connected? [04:15] hm.. nope... === claydoh doesn't care for the flashy colored text [04:15] I could ask if they have plans of implementing [04:18] yuriy: it might [04:19] Isn't there a UDS in November? [04:19] manchicken|away: yes [04:19] Where is it at? [04:20] Philippines!!! [04:20] >:) [04:20] Heh [04:20] Jucato: thanks [04:20] yuriy: although "it might" could also mean "it might not" :P [04:20] how do they choose these places? [04:20] [Wed Jan 31 2007] [09:47:17] UDS is (I think) week of May 5th [04:20] [Wed Jan 31 2007] [09:47:21] in Seville, Spain [04:20] [Wed Jan 31 2007] [09:47:25] next one is in November [04:20] [Wed Jan 31 2007] [09:47:27] in Boston [04:21] manchicken|away: ^ [04:21] Really? Boston? === Hobbsee hugs her logs [04:21] Hobbsee: sweeet [04:21] yep [04:21] apparently === Jucato will attend [04:21] in my dreams! lol [04:22] Jucato: you can apply for sponsorship :P === Hobbsee wont be going in november [04:22] Maybe while we're doing that we could crash the FSF headquarters at MIT. === claydoh could crash UDS in Boston, only a 5 hr bus trip :) === n8k99 knows boston is close now, but november may find him next door to Hobbsee [04:25] claydoh: Seriously. [04:25] I could do Boston without too much trouble. [04:25] I wouldn't even have to fly. [04:25] n8k99: really? nice! [04:25] So when are we doing UDS down in ausland? [04:26] That'd be a *VERY* long flight.... [04:26] well i may become a member of SLUG [04:26] manchicken|away: if I could get aay for a day :( work sucks that way === yuriy is at least for now a team contact for MA LoCo. does that give me a 'ticket' to UDS? === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm235.omega19.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:26] manchicken|away: was in may 05 [04:26] or 06 [04:26] one of them === n8k99 knows its not _exactly_ next door [04:26] no, 05 [04:26] n8k99: nice :) [04:26] n8k99: where are you planning o live? [04:26] we hope Manley [04:27] wifey wants the daughter to be a nipper [04:29] nice :) [04:29] guess you'd have the money to do that, too, if you're in the US === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] manly....yeah, you could get to SLUG from there [04:30] haha! not me, i'm a kept man! ;-) [04:30] n8k99: hrm? === Hobbsee thinks she missed something [04:31] well- that and i raise the daughter, clean the house and go to school to get a tech job === n8k99 maybe that came out wrong [04:32] true, but i dont see what that has to do with your statement of being a kept man === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] aaah self-deprecating humor - nomatter how pathetic it maybe- does not translate well over IRC === n8k99 gets nervous whenever money is discussed [04:35] ahhhh [04:36] fact of the matter is, your money is worht more than our money. a lot more. you are in the US, arent you? [04:36] (sydney's known for it's unaffordable house prices, particularly close to the city) [04:36] yes, new york, so our money is worth more than the rest of the US [04:36] even better === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:37] sydney is 12 places below NYC on the most expensive places to live === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:38] ah, interesting [04:38] strangely Moscow is number 1! [04:41] n8k99: worth more eh? not in baseball players clearly :D [04:43] yuriy: huh? what baseball players? [04:43] n8k99: where's this link? === n8k99 perfers football (the sport played with your feet) [04:43] !logs [04:44] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [04:44] n8k99: measure inflation by the yankees' total payroll [04:44] oh right [04:45] Hobbsee: http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/top-50-cities/2006/06/26/1151174117013.html [04:45] oops! sydney is only 9 behind nyc! === n8k99 was wrong, yet again [04:46] damn... [04:46] lol [04:50] are there parts of sydney (suburbs and such) where it is difficult to get to slug? === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A73420.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] i'm taking a little break from blendering. where's a good place to put a wiki page for a kubuntu desktop bug spree === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:04] n8k99: well, it takes ages to get there, depending on where you're coming from, nad how you're getting there [05:04] yuriy: fridge.u.c [05:04] Hobbsee: i don't mean an announcement, more of a schedule [05:05] copy that Hobbsee [05:05] n8k99: wiki's good [05:05] n8k99: so's a ML [05:06] probably wiki first, then ML - ie, send the final copy to relevant mailing lists === n8k99 is subscribed to ml - remembers little debate about users vs user's [05:06] n8k99: depends which ml you're thinking about [05:07] slug announce [05:07] ah === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-043-064.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] Hobbsee: need to work out a schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuTeam/Bugs === Hobbsee looks [06:28] yuriy: looking now. kde compositing is *weird*! === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] Hobbsee: weird? how so? it's glitchy.. [06:46] exactly [06:46] but once you find some sane defaults, it's actually not too bad. [06:46] kompmgr or kwin_composite? [06:49] Jucato: whatever's in system settings, under window settings [06:49] KDE 3.5.x? that'd be kompmgr [06:49] likely [06:49] it's being buggy is a feature, not a bug. :D [06:50] lol [06:50] no really, seriously :) [06:50] it was more of a "hey we can do this compositing thing" thing, than a "this is how to do it correctly" thing... proof of concept... that stuck around longer than booger on a wall... [06:50] ew... sorry for being gross [06:51] is kwin_composite in the snapshot? === Jucato doesn't think so... but not really sure... [06:52] Jucato: hehe === darksider415 [n=caleb@68-114-132-123.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waits for k-d-s to checkout [07:18] !bzr [07:18] bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model. [07:19] hiya Hobbsee! [07:19] heya nixternal! === Jucato wonders if jdong's quit message is a bit... [07:22] hahahaha [07:22] dude, that is a Win2K key [07:22] that is the same one I use for installing it [07:22] haha [07:22] lol === Jucato thinks it's an XP key too... === Jucato checks [07:22] I noticed the RHQQ2 part of it [07:22] lol [07:22] is it? [07:22] I have the key written down somewhere as well [07:22]