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eagles0513875!.fla12:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:15
X704ttyl :)12:16
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globecpk1: I am not trying to go there, I am trying to see if it is working.12:16
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snake_what can i use to edit .fla files in kubuntu12:16
Menaglope, maybe there is a command on terminal but if you opened you partition editor if you see its mounted so its being using by kubuntu12:16
cpk1globe: well 'free -m' will give you info on memory usage12:16
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eagles0513875!ext312:17
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org12:17
PF-Away!xfs12:17
ubotuxfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB12:17
eagles0513875!jfs12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
eagles0513875!reiserf12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reiserf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
PF-Away!reiser12:17
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.12:17
eagles0513875!reiser12:17
cpk1globe: also 'fdisk -l' well tell you all your partition information (you might need to use sudo)12:17
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cpk1will*12:18
xBillsnake: .fla is a flash file - maybe your browser can open it (if you have a flash plugin)12:18
globecpk1: 'free -m' shows zeros for Swap (total, used and free all zero).  This is what is making me think its not seeing it12:18
Menacpki, if i make mu intel viga card to not take a memeory form my ram is that okay or will amke a apro or you dont knw :P12:18
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X704...12:19
Menamake*12:19
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X704last question, what about Java?12:19
cpk1globe: does fdisk -l show a swap partition?12:19
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cpk1!java | X70412:20
ubotuX704: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:20
=== X704 and would like to know how to run his JAR Executables for java
globecpk1: yep.12:20
X704hmm12:20
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cpk1hrmm its probably turned off globe but I forget how to turn it back on =P12:20
cpk1globe: nevermind try swapon12:20
cpk1heh12:20
X704ok, thanks again :):):)12:20
ubuntuhi, i'm at installing kubuntu for the first time12:20
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MenaX704, to install the whole java do this in terminal sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin12:21
albertkopejkevhow large should the swap cache be?12:21
albertkopejkevi got 512 ram12:21
yaccinalbertkopejkev: as large as your free hdd-space is ^^12:21
Menaa;bertkopjkev, i guess it might be 2xram12:21
albertkopejkevso, the bigger the better?12:21
cpk1albertkopejkev: how much ram do you have?12:22
eagles0513875how do i  unlock my cd drive12:22
albertkopejkev51212:22
eagles0513875seems like when i was installing somethign usint wine it locked it12:22
cpk1albertkopejkev: then you should use abtou 1gig for swap12:22
Menaso make it 1 giga as i guess12:22
cpk1about*12:22
albertkopejkevthank you very much12:22
BluesKaj1Gig swap is plenty12:22
albertkopejkevsee you soon ;)12:22
albertkopejkevbtw. i'm using linux for the first time12:22
albertkopejkevand i'm so much impressed12:23
globecpk1: swapon -a => swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument <= (/hda5 is my swap)12:23
gonowhi12:23
albertkopejkevthe possibility of using the system before installing it12:23
albertkopejkevway to go12:23
albertkopejkevcya12:23
yaccinglobe: what filesystem is hda5?12:23
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xBilleagles : maybe unmount it manually12:23
yaccinalbertkopejkev: yes, theres a live cd with installer12:23
eagles0513875tired xbill but it says it busy12:23
cpk1globe: does /etc/fstab say /dev/hda5 is swap?12:23
yaccinyou can use it and when you like install it and use it while the installation is running :)12:23
globeyaccin: Linux Swap / Solaris12:24
yaccinhmm12:24
globecpk1: yep12:24
xBilleagles: sudo ps -ax | grep cdrom12:24
gonowwonders if the next version of ubuntu will have yahoo messenger in the pacage12:24
cpk1globe: then just try swapon -a12:24
eagles0513875says something bout bad syntax12:25
yaccingonow: ubuntu: gnome, kubuntu: kopete12:25
globecpk1: swapon -a => swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument <= (/hda5 is my swap)12:25
yaccinerr12:25
yaccinubuntu: gaim12:25
xBilleagles : did you run it from a terminal ?12:25
cpk1oh i see12:25
cpk1odd12:25
gonowah i see12:25
eagles0513875yes even sudoed12:25
cpk1globe: cat /proc/swaps say anything?12:25
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globecpk1: nope...returns blank12:26
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xBilleagles: ok, try sudo ps ax | grep cdrom (the same but without  the " - ")12:26
gonowthe version of ubuntu i have is lts das it have nameserver dns server  stc becose i thinking of starting up a registry ie for tlds12:26
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eagles0513875command not found12:26
eagles0513875xbill i think i know y its locked for some reason i mounted it multiple times12:27
eagles0513875once im done im going to have to restart it12:27
cpk1globe: what does it say in /etc/fstab for your swap partition?12:27
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globecpk1: (thanks for your help) /dev/hda5       4890   4998  875511    82      Linux Swap12:28
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cpk1globe: ... that doesnt look like a correct entry at all12:30
K`zanAnyone here using a Netgear WG511v1 and WPA-PSK?12:30
eagles0513875how do i configure sendmail12:31
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eagles0513875!sendmail12:31
ubotusendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB12:31
globecpk1: oh lol...that was fdisk -l ....12:31
cpk1oh that makes more sense =)12:31
globecpk1: /dev/hda5    none (mount point)     swap (type)   sw (opt)    0 (dump)     0 (pass)12:32
Shepard[Russia] HHmm.12:32
Shepard[Russia] !kopete12:32
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB12:32
cpk1odd that is how it should be12:33
cpk1try swapoff12:33
eagles0513875shepard gaim is better12:33
eagles0513875!gaim |shepard12:33
ubotushepard: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.12:33
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cpk1kopete is better =P12:33
Shepard[Russia] eagles0513875, i more like SIM ;))12:33
eagles0513875?12:33
eagles0513875what do u mean shep12:33
yaccinyes kopete <312:33
lonewolf1066I dropped my laptop a small distance, so I don't think anything was harmed, but is there a way I can run a test to just make sure? Would fsck work, and if so, would I have to unmount the disk first?12:34
Shepard[Russia] sim-im.org ... Icq like prog12:34
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eagles0513875kool12:34
globecpk1: swapoff -a returns nothing12:34
yaccinlonewolf1066: dont need to unmount it12:34
cpk1lonewolf1066: smartmon tools might be better12:34
yaccinoh theres also meebo.com <312:34
cpk1globe: ok i guess try turning it on now12:34
lonewolf1066cpk1: Thanks12:34
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globecpk1: yea, still same Invalid arg error.  Where is that disk manager program?12:35
yaccinqtparted?12:35
eagles0513875is there a way to ping port to see qhich one is open12:35
cpk1I wonder if it only likes uuids...12:36
yaccincpk1: why did they switch to uuids?12:36
yaccinits more... complicated12:36
globecpk1: It was uuids at one point.  A forum post suggested I change it back to the standard format12:36
fyrmedicOk I am on a roll and don't want to ruin it. I got my wireless adaptor working, now I need to get my sound working. Any body got a link that will help?12:36
Dr_willisit fixes a lot of other issues in a flexable namor12:36
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cpk1globe: yeah, I dont think you actually need uuids12:37
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tiHohi! see this site: _http://tattoo.clan.su   Free forum! (by Russia) (5 languages: russian, english, deutch, france,spain) ;) and #freeforum12:38
xBilleagles: you are searhing for nmap12:38
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cpk1globe: try swapon -L /dev/hda512:38
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globeswapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-label//dev/hda5: No such file or directory12:39
Dr_willisby-label?12:39
Dr_willisthats.. odd12:39
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Shepard[Russia] Tell me someone plz, what exacly .deb packages I need to install to play .mp3? Something like "libmpeg"?12:40
SkrotAny rsync (server) users around?12:40
cpk1Dr_willis: the whole thing is odd, his fstab has the correct entry and everything12:40
Dr_willisthe kubuntu faq mentions the packages needed by various programs12:40
Dr_willisfor mp3 playback12:40
Dr_williscpk1,  yea.. weirdness12:40
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cpk1wonder if mkswap would be worth a shot?12:41
Shepard[Russia] Dr_willis, ooopss.. Thank you!12:41
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globecpk1: qtparted shows /dev/hda5  filesystem as unknown.  is this right?12:43
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p1shi12:43
sakurahello12:43
Shepard[Russia] hi there12:43
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p1scan someone help me?12:43
cpk1I would imagine that its wrong, but fdisk knows its swap...12:44
p1si have a problem12:44
FoggeJust ask the question p1 :)12:44
cpk1you could just reformat the swap part if you are sure of it I suppose12:44
p1sand i cant find the andwer12:44
p1s:P12:44
p1sok12:44
p1sso12:44
p1si run linux from Vmware12:44
p1sand12:44
albertkopejkevis there a palm-desktop software for linux available?12:44
fyrmedicHow do I figure out what chipset my soundcard is using. I have run lspci and others and can't figure it?12:44
p1si can't instal VMware tools12:44
cpk1fyrmedic: lshw12:44
p1she want to recompile kernel and say to me to give the locant to the12:45
p1slinux source12:45
p1sand i don't know where is it12:45
p1s:|12:45
Shepard[Russia] :) Similar sh*t at me..12:45
cpk1actually I dont think I can see my chipset with that either =P12:45
globecpk1: is it okay that my swap is in an extended partition?12:46
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yaccinp1s: he doesnt want to recompile your kernel12:46
yaccinp1s: he wants to compile the kernel modules12:46
fyrmediccpk1, I'll give it a shot. Thanks12:46
yaccintheres an instruction for installin vmware tools12:46
Shepard[Russia] kernel headers, i suppose12:46
yaccinill search the link, one moment12:46
p1swaccin: and what is the adress12:46
lnxkdesup guys12:46
lnxkde:)12:46
cpk1pretty sure mine is in an extended part too12:46
p1sbut i dont know ehre is the adress12:46
p1sthe heather12:46
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xBillps1: i guess the headers are not even installed12:47
lnxkdehey guys someone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??12:47
p1sdo u know whre is it12:47
p1swhere from can i instal then?12:47
Shepard[Russia] kernel.org? Dunno...(12:47
xBillps1: try to install linux-headers-[your-kernel-version]  in the package manager12:48
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p1sxBill i;m new in linux12:48
yaccinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools?action=show&redirect=VmwareTools12:48
p1swhat comand i must to wrote?12:48
p1stks yacin12:48
p1si look there now12:48
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xBillps1: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic12:49
p1snow i run sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`12:50
p1shome to work12:50
p1s6h are from i still triw12:50
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p1si need for university12:50
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lnxkdesomeone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??12:50
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lnxkdeI get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/12:51
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p1sp1s@p1s:~$ sudo ./vmware-install.p12:52
p1ssudo: ./vmware-install.p: command not found12:52
p1s???12:52
Sannehi12:52
yaccin.pl12:52
sakurahello12:52
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yaccinnot .p12:52
p1s??12:52
p1swhy12:52
yaccinyou can also do ./vmware-install.pl -d12:52
yaccinbecause its a .pl file not a .p12:52
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xBillwhat about tab completion ?12:53
intelikeyok what does /etc/adjtime do just prezactly ?12:53
p1ssame12:53
p1sdo't work12:53
comosicuswho is using gaim?12:53
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comosicusi have a problem and i whant to solve it12:53
yaccinp1s: are you in the right folder?12:53
Cycoi am12:53
Cycogaim12:54
p1sno :|12:54
comosicusgood12:54
p1sno i saw12:54
MegaVoltgot a dual monitor kubuntu problem: when i check "align to grid" all icons from my secondary screen, which is left of my primary one, get shifted to the primary. icon setup on primary screen gets messed up in the process12:54
MegaVoltany ideas?12:54
p1shoq can i go to cd-rom: cd media?12:54
xBillps1: should'n perl scripts be executed by perl [name-of-the-script]  ??12:54
p1scd cd-rom ?12:54
yaccincd /dev/cdrom12:54
yaccinor12:54
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yaccincd /media/cdrom12:54
yaccin^^12:54
comosicusi whant to add a buddy and gaim said that the id is not on a server list12:54
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intelikeyyeah you can't cd into a device node.12:55
sakurawhile we're on cd-roms, when i insert one, KDE pops up a window to system:/media/cdrom or something12:55
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sakuraand it shows up blank, and i have to manually go to /media/cdrom to see it12:55
p1sp1s@p1s:/media/cdrom$ sudo ./vmware-install.pl12:57
p1ssudo: ./vmware-install.pl: command not found12:57
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p1scand undertsnat12:57
intelikeynobody knows what /etc/adjtime is/does/'is for' ?12:57
EADG02Any idea how I can pipe irc channel talk from irrsi into KTTSMgr/Festival so I can "listen" to irc?12:57
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alberthi, can anybody tell me a good software page, for linux?12:58
intelikeyp1s not executable12:58
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p1s:|12:58
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intelikeyp1s disk mounted 'noexec' ?12:58
ubuntudoes the herd5 installer support upgrading my 6.10?12:58
joshjoshhow can i find out which herd i'm running?12:58
lnxkdesomeone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??12:58
lnxkdeI get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/12:58
yaccinthere is no herd 5 or am i wrong?12:59
yaccino.O12:59
p1sis12:59
intelikeyjoshjosh herd... ?     lsb_release -a12:59
p1sp1s@p1s:/cdrom$ ls12:59
yaccin!herd412:59
ubotuTo download Feisty Fawn Herd 5, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing12:59
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p1sbug-sles1012:59
p1sbug-sles10.objects.vmxnet.o12:59
yaccinoh12:59
p1sb.vmware-tools.modules.binary.bld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586debug-sles1012:59
p1sld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586kdump-sles1012:59
yaccin:D12:59
p1sld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586smp-sles1012:59
p1sles10.objects.vmxnet.o12:59
p1sult-sles10.objects.vmdesched.o12:59
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p1sjsut his i have i ncdrom12:59
p1swhy?12:59
p1si mont good12:59
globehey...whoever was helping me with my swap, its fixed.  I decided to restart and now I show free space in the swap.  thx12:59
hereticnot 1400 but 1650x1080 for my 20" widescreen lnxkde12:59
lnxkdeheretic:12:59
ubuntudoes the herd5 installer support upgrading my 6.10?01:00
lnxkdeheretic can I show my xorg.conf?01:00
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yaccinubuntu: just do a dist-upgrade01:00
hereticyap01:00
lnxkdeheretic: or can u send me yours01:00
intelikeyp1s so is it mounted 'noexec' ?01:00
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p1ssudo mount /dev/cdrom ~/Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib01:00
p1slike tihs i monted01:00
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Cycodoes anyone know of a way to troubleshoot init scripts, i am running edgy and my startup is getting hung at rc.local....If I hit enter it goes directly to login which is fine but just looking to solve this annoyance01:01
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Cycoi have sysv-rc-config and have disabled usplash amongst others and had no problems, only started hanging when i took quiet out of grub entry so i can see startup01:02
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RajuraHow do you get Java to work01:02
Rajuraor err rather install01:02
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intelikeyp1s if that flood eariler (which you should never repete) is the full list then there is no file named *.pl01:03
hereticlnxkde use one of that websites to show us your xorg.conf01:03
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p1sok01:03
p1ssory for flood01:03
eagles0513875can anyone help me understand as to y when i try to install a multi cd game after the 1st cd it locks the drive and i cant eject it to put in the next one01:04
eagles0513875this is using wine btw01:04
hereticargh i cant remeber the name of one of these sites01:04
intelikeyp1s to prevent flooding always use a pastebin for things like that01:04
intelikey!pastebin | p1s01:04
ubotup1s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:04
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eagles0513875does anyone know much bout wine01:04
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p1subotu: ok, sory one more time01:05
p1sis a bot, stupid me01:05
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intelikey!thanks | p1s01:05
ubotup1s: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:05
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hereticthere you go lnxkde01:06
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p1sok01:06
p1si run sudo ./vmware-install.p01:06
p1sbut now ask me:01:06
p1sIn which directory do you want to install the binary files?01:06
p1s[/ps1/bin] 01:06
lnxkdeheretic:  sorry my connection died01:07
yaccinjust hinter enter01:07
lnxkdeheretic: hey can we priv msg?01:07
yaccin*hit enter01:07
p1sokk01:07
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yaccinp1s: defaults are always right on ubuntu :)01:07
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Hobbseeeagles0513875: try in #wine01:07
Hobbseeeagles0513875: try in #winehq, sorry01:07
intelikey<yaccin> p1s: defaults are always right on ubuntu :) <<<  lol    good one yaccin    :)01:07
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eagles0513875in there but no help there either01:08
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cpk1eagles0513875: are you running wine from inside the cd directory?01:10
hereticlnkde: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to show us your xorg.conf01:10
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RajuraSomeone tell me how do you get java to work with firefox01:12
Rajuraautomatrix is down soo err01:12
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andreshello01:13
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eagles0513875!automatrix01:13
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:13
p1sback01:13
p1sok01:13
p1sit work :D01:13
p1stks all01:13
andres!serverlist01:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serverlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:13
eagles0513875!WorksForMe01:14
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.01:14
eagles0513875lol01:14
eagles0513875!lol01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
eagles0513875cpk yes im running it from inside the cd directory01:14
andreshow can i do to save my name?01:14
cpk1eagles0513875: dont do that =P01:14
eagles0513875ok lol it just hit me01:14
cpk1eagles0513875: wine /media/cdrom0/some.exe01:15
andres!rules01:15
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:15
andreshow can i do to protect my name ?01:15
eagles0513875nothign happened01:15
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fyrmedicI am trying to install alsa from source. When I try and install the utils package it gives an error that it requires curses. Aside from mine, ;) what is that?01:15
intelikey!register | andres01:16
ubotuandres: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:16
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lnxkdesomeone here uses widescreen resolution on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??01:16
lnxkdeI get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/01:16
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eagles0513875ty cpk hopefully i can get this installed01:17
cpk1eagles0513875: what game is this?01:17
andreswhat can i do to add more channels , ,notr only the ubuntu channels , cause i'm conected with the server of ubuntu01:17
eagles0513875world of warcraft01:17
deweygood day mates01:17
eagles0513875lol01:17
Cycolnxkde does your xorg log post any errrors?01:17
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lnxkdeCyco nope :/01:17
cpk1ok then you shouldnt have too many problems01:17
intelikeyandres   /join #some_channel01:17
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Cycois your res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:18
lnxkdeCyco: maybe is something with the modes01:18
eagles0513875then another think i have an issue with cpk is the graphics01:18
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lellelnxkde: I tried a new 22" widescren mon. with a windows computer (nvidia card and latest driver) ... and it would not understand 1680x1050 ...01:18
lnxkdeCyco: yep01:18
lnxkde:/01:18
Cycodo you have custom modelines ?01:18
Admiral_Chicagolelle: !X01:18
Cycowhat resolution and what gen card?01:18
Admiral_Chicagoerr01:18
Admiral_Chicago!X | lelle01:18
ubotulelle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:18
lelleand when I created the res. it would turn out "gigantic" .. scrolling01:19
Admiral_Chicagofollow the link, it will show you how to fix it01:19
lnxkdeCyco:  ModeLine     "1400x900" 104.2 1400 1480 1632 1864 900 901 904 932 -hsync +vsync01:19
Admiral_Chicagooh wait, haha, nvm01:19
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Sannefyrmedic: most likely you need a development package of the ncurses library. I don't know the exact name, you can try to find the package name at oackages.ubuntu.com or  'apt-cache search curses'. Look for a package with '-dev' at the end.01:19
lnxkdeCyco:01:19
lnxkde   SubSection     "Display"01:19
lnxkde        Depth       801:19
lnxkde        Modes      "1400x900"01:19
lnxkde    EndSubSection01:19
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Sannefyrmedic: sorry, packages.ubuntu.com01:20
lnxkdeweeeeeeeeeee kubuntu is here01:20
Cycothat is at depth 8j01:20
intelikeydepth 8  ???  256 colour ?01:20
Cycodo you have that res at higher depth?01:20
lelleso not even nvidias win-driver seems to like w.s-resolutions01:20
eagles0513875cpk is there a way i can get my mesa glx to change from indirect to direct01:20
kubuntuhi room im new to this whole linux thing and i need help getting a dvd to work01:20
lnxkdeCyco: sorry yeah01:20
Cycohaha ok01:20
Cycojust checking01:20
lnxkdeDepth       2401:20
eagles0513875i tried the binary drivers only screwed up ubuntu01:20
yaccinkubuntu: http://videolan.org/libdvdcss01:20
Cycodoes your res work with vesa driver?01:21
yaccininstall the latest release :)01:21
yaccinand dvd should work ^^01:21
eagles0513875tried everything imaginable to get the glx to work01:21
lnxkdeCyco: yep01:21
kubuntuk01:21
cpk1i dont know anything about ati cards, never had one01:21
kubuntu thx01:21
fyrmedicSanne; THanks I get fat fingers too,  ;)01:21
Sannefyrmedic: hehe :). I'm helping you search right now, btw.01:21
hereticlelle: you can manually set a widescreen resolution with the nvidia win driver01:21
intelikeyjust a note.  my nvidia will do depth 15 but not depth 16  on any rez.   depth 24 also works on all.    so you might need to avoid depth 16 on some nvidia cards01:22
lnxkdeheretic:  can u send me ur xorg.conf?01:22
eagles0513875but use PASTEBIN01:22
lnxkdeCyco: and u? use nvidia?01:22
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Cycoyes01:22
heretici havent got any probs with my ws screen under linux or win... both recognize the screen correctly01:22
eagles0513875anybody know much bout ati cards01:22
Cyco1680x105001:22
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CycoNVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  1.0-963101:22
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lnxkdeCyco: if u send me your xorg.comnf01:22
Cycoolder direct from nvidia site01:22
eagles0513875cpk i still cant eject the cd01:23
andreshey , i tried to install ubuntu with the live cd , so i put the live cd in my cd room and i restarted my computer , after thata the live cd showed me some options ! , i started "stard or install" after that was loading and later my screen turn black, and nothing happened , why ?01:23
lnxkdeI will be happy as he;; '_01:23
heretictake it lnxkde01:23
lnxkdehappy as hell ;)01:23
Sannefyrmedic: I suspect it is libncurses5-dev.01:23
eagles0513875cpk can we talk in private01:23
lnxkdeheretic: I dont see the file :/01:23
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lelleyep, and it became larger and scrolled ... after trying every option in the more advanced settings, it eventually worked ... it felt exactly like making a modeline actually ... did not expect that from win01:23
eagles0513875lol01:23
lnxkdeintelikey: :p01:23
lnxkdeintelikey: hehehe01:23
hereticmoo01:23
kubuntuhow do i install firefox in kubuntu?01:24
eagles0513875sudo apt-get install firefox01:24
kubuntudo i download the tar file or is there another way01:24
eagles0513875sudo apt-get install firefox01:24
eagles0513875that is the way01:24
eagles0513875in the terminal kubuntu01:24
hereticlnxkde: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8480/01:24
eagles0513875!apt-get |kubuntu01:24
ubotukubuntu: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:24
lnxkdeheretic: thanlx man01:24
Rajurahow do you install java on kubuntu01:25
CVirus!java01:25
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:25
CVirusRajura: ^01:25
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andrescan i install the beryl without install ubuntu , only running with the live cd?01:26
hereticPlease don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier. <- works here without any problems01:26
eagles0513875cpk help me01:27
Cycolnxkde did this work with older versions of nvidia?01:27
Sannefyrmedic: You can also look at the build-depends of the corresponding ubuntu package. Here, for example, is the dsc (description?) file for alsa-utils. Look at the line 'Build-Depends': http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.11-6ubuntu2.dsc01:27
Sannefyrmedic: might give you a good idea of the package names you need.01:27
fyrmedicSanne; the -dev hint seems to have worked.  Thanks alot01:27
kubuntumy konsole says i installed firefox where do i find/use it?01:28
Sannefyrmedic: you're welcome :)01:28
eagles0513875cpk i ran the wine eject command and took out the first cd and put in the 2nd one and it didnt work for me it seems like its not recognizing the 2nd cd01:28
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lnxkdeCyco: yea older drivers01:28
lnxkde:/01:28
intelikeykrap that is imbaressing.   i actually was root that time....   eeeek.01:28
lnxkdebut this driver worked on fedora01:28
Cycowerid may be a bug - this is why i am using older version01:28
lnxkdewith the default utility nvidia brigs01:29
Cycomy card crapped with latest01:29
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intelikeyone tty to far left and one ought not irc ...01:29
lnxkdeCyco: heretic thankx a lot01:29
lnxkdeI have to go01:29
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lnxkdemy gf is calling me01:29
lnxkde:s01:29
Cycogood luck01:29
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lnxkdebye guys01:29
Cycocheckc nvidia forums01:29
Cyco!01:30
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lnxkdeI think I have found the problem01:30
heretichf with your gf  :)01:30
Cycohahah  see ya01:30
lnxkdesee ya01:30
lnxkdethankx01:30
eagles0513875lucky u i wish mine would call me01:30
Rajura!Multiverse repository01:30
Rajura!Multiverse01:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:30
intelikeymonkey see monkey do.    except; in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"01:30
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Rajura!java01:31
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:31
eagles0513875anyone have any idea y wine wont recognize the 2nd cd after i eject it using wine eject01:31
eagles0513875and put in 2nd one but it wont recognize 2nd cd01:31
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eilker!mencoder01:32
ubotumencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB01:32
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intelikeyeagles0513875 no never been there.  but did you try mounting it?   i don't know if that would help there or not.   also does wine have a mount command...01:32
eagles0513875dunno01:33
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eagles0513875im a wine noob01:33
intelikeyi'm no wine-O myself...01:33
eilkeris mencoder a graphical thing ?01:33
Rajura!codec01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
Rajura!codecs01:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:34
Rajuradamn it isnt there like an all in one install for the most common used codecs?01:34
eilkerrajura: my problem is different01:34
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hereticyou could use vlc Rajura01:35
lelleand mplayer does .wmv native now in the 1.0 version .. (probably the most wanted win32codecs) .. but i don't know if works just as good?01:36
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SanneRajura: those nost commonly used codecs are mostly also proprietary and can't legally be shipped with ubuntu. So you have to work a bit  for getting them, but the page ubotu gave should help with that.01:37
intelikeyRajura for the free formats.  they will play natively.  but there is this thing called "copy rights and patens"  that prevent FOSS form providing the non-free ones.01:37
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intelikey.ogg   :)01:39
intelikeyogg beets mp3 hands down.01:40
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eagles0513875but what if u use 320 bit rate and mp3 format01:41
yaccinwhat then?01:42
yaccinyouve get a laaarge mp3 file...01:42
intelikeychange it to ogg vorbis   heh01:42
FoggeAll hell will break loose!01:42
yaccinogg ftw01:42
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eagles0513875technically would flac be the best since its losless01:43
eagles0513875only downside to it is file size01:44
yaccinbut very large files01:44
yaccin^^01:44
eagles0513875ya but wat bout vry high quality mp3's using 32bitrate01:44
yaccinwhat about them?01:44
intelikey"320 bit rate"  ???    Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~112000 bps    what means "320 bit rate" ?01:44
yaccin320 kbps01:44
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eagles0513875ya01:44
eagles0513875sry01:44
eagles0513875wine is driving me insane01:44
phillermannheyho01:44
intelikeyok slightly higher than cda01:45
yaccinintelikey: i mostly use 190 - 320 kbps VBR01:45
yaccin^^01:45
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eagles0513875i use 320kbps mp3 format01:46
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intelikey~112000 bps is form cda01:46
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phillermannany clues on how to put a hdd with a working installation of ubuntu into a complete different PC and get the installation back working?01:47
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phillermannis that even possible?01:47
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Sannephillermann: should be, most hardware will be auto detected by the kernel01:47
intelikeyphillermann not even hard.   adjust the boot loader and the fstab to reflect the new addressing.01:47
eagles0513875this is bs01:48
yaccinintelikey: which IS hard for a beginner ^_^01:48
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intelikeyyaccin no.   compiling wine for a 64bit system is hard.01:48
yaccindunno :D01:49
Sanneeagles0513875: maybe you could get info or help here? http://www.linux-gamers.net/01:49
eagles0513875I HATE WINE01:49
yaccini dont have 64 bit ^^01:49
eagles0513875ty sanne01:49
yaccini hate 64 bit01:49
yaccin:D01:49
yaccinand ati01:49
yaccin^^01:49
eagles0513875lol i hate ati01:49
Sanneeagles0513875: yw :)01:49
eagles0513875and im starting to hate compaq and amd01:49
yaccini think most linux users hate ati01:49
yaccinXD01:49
intelikeyyaccin only the ones that have ati cards..01:49
yaccinwell most of them also hate ati01:50
yaccin:D01:50
yaccinat leasdt i hate the card in my notebook01:50
yaccin:D01:50
Sanneeagles0513875: it might very well be some incompatibility between wine and your game. Wine doesn't claim to be able to run every windows software and every installer yet.01:50
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phillermannok, sounds possible... :-) so there's no need to reinstall or "repair installation" stuff like i would have tried on windows? (i'm a convert *g*)01:50
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eagles0513875ive seen world of warcraft installed with it01:50
eagles0513875and run on linux01:50
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yaccineagles0513875: which game do you want to run?01:51
eagles0513875world of warcraft01:51
Mark_how do i get mp3's to play01:51
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yaccinone moment ill search the installation instruction ^^01:51
phillermannthanks, Sanne and intelikey. have a good night/day/whatevertimeitisrightnowatyourplace...01:51
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Sannephillermann: i would just try. You just should read up a bit about the grub bootloader, what to change, wich files and so on...01:51
yaccineagles0513875: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=worldofwarcraft01:51
yaccinhttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-246098.html01:52
yaccinuse the last one01:52
yaccin^^01:52
eagles0513875ty yaccin01:52
Steven_J_MHi all01:52
intelikeyphillermann should be as simple as changing the info in /boot/grub/devices  and /boot/grub/menu.lst     and setting the correct addressing in /etc/fstab    that's all that should be affected    other than possably reconfiguring x   which is no biggy.01:52
Sannephillermann: maybe even try and be online here so we can help if need be :)01:52
Mark_how do i run mp3's in linux01:52
yaccinMark_: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:52
intelikey!mp3 | Mark_01:53
ubotuMark_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:53
phillermannsure thing! i'll give it a try when the new notebook has arrived and will come back to your offer...01:53
phillermannsee ya01:53
Mark_thx but my konsole says the file is not available01:53
Sannephillermann: bye :)01:53
intelikey          - But please use free formats if you can:01:53
intelikey          https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:53
intelikey"if you can"   heh you can.01:54
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intelikeyno one is holding a sword to anyones neck and forcing them to use mp3 format.    not even forcing you to use a computer....01:55
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Mark_i kno but i just switched form win to linux01:55
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Mark_and i have 5+ GB of mp3's01:55
betrayerhi01:56
eagles0513875what u tryign to do mark01:56
Mark_play mp3's in amaroK01:56
yaccinMark_: i have ~30 GB :P01:56
SanneMark_: you can also try xmms media player, it should play them out of the box.01:56
Mark_good 4 u?01:56
intelikeyi was just commenting on  >>> - But please use free formats if you can:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats   <<< and you can!01:56
eagles0513875u want to convert to diff formats01:56
yaccinMark_: start amarok and try playing them, there should be a window popping up for isntall mp3 support01:56
eagles0513875mark01:56
Master_KaleAutomatix2 won't run because I'm using Kubunut :(01:57
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Master_KaleKubuntu*01:57
Mark_no thx i want to keep them in mp301:57
yaccinelse install libxine-extracodecs01:57
Mark_i tryed it gave me an error01:57
intelikeykay oo boo nut ?01:57
eagles0513875ok01:57
eagles0513875install amarok and play them in there and install the mp3 support01:57
Mark_it says the package isnt available01:58
Sanneconverting mp3 to ogg will increase the loss, won't it, since both introduce different losses due to compression (although ogg *is very* superiour, when converted from a lossless file like wav)01:58
yaccinyou have multiverse repo enabled?01:58
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intelikeyMark_ what flavour of ubuntu are you running ?01:58
intelikey!edgy01:58
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes01:58
Mark_kubuntu 6.06 i01:58
intelikey!dapper01:59
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".01:59
intelikeyok01:59
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Mark_any help?02:01
intelikeyMark_ using that for a patern adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list   enabling the needed repositories02:01
eagles0513875u try amarok mark02:01
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intelikeyor just use that one.02:01
Steven_J_MI've mucked up my edgy installing my running dpg-reconfigure -a Is there anyway of getting the Edgy livecd to restore the default configs without having to without reinstall my whole system?02:01
Mark_its installed02:01
Mark_but it dosnt play02:02
yaccinMark_: restart amarok02:02
yaccinand really restart, also close the icon in the system tray02:02
Mark_k i just killed it02:02
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intelikeyafter you change the sources.list  sudo apt-get update    and then start your adept package manages.   you should be able to install what you want/need02:02
Mark_change the sources list?02:03
intelikeyyep02:03
Mark_wht command is that?02:03
yaccinMark_: just try if it works now02:03
yaccin^^02:03
Mark_nope :(02:04
yaccinthen open konsole02:04
Mark_k02:04
Mark_open02:04
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yaccintype "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:04
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yaccin(without the "02:04
Mark_k02:04
yaccinenter password ^^02:05
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Mark_ok02:05
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yaccinsearch a line which contains universe and begins with a deb02:05
yaccinadd a space after the last word in that line and add multiverse02:05
yaccinhit ctrl + x, y to save and enter02:06
Mark_it dosnt say anything02:06
intelikeyor... add         universe multiverse             to the end of the first line that is not commented out....02:06
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Steven_J_Manyone?02:06
Mark_it says GNU nono 1.3.1002:06
Mark_and it gives me shortcuts at the bottom02:06
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yaccinhmm02:06
yaccinbe sure you typed /etc/apt/sources.list right02:07
Mark_yeh02:07
Admiral_Chicagocould do Ctrl + O02:07
Mark_File: ect/apt/sources.list02:07
Admiral_Chicagoenter02:07
Admiral_Chicagoctrl + X02:07
Steven_J_Many ideas?02:07
yaccin /etc not etc02:07
intelikeySteven_J_M you can fix is the way you messed it up   dpkg-reconfigure -a02:08
Mark_ok02:08
intelikeyect/apt/sources.list != /ect/apt/sources.list02:08
Mark_OK02:09
Mark_now it says stuff02:09
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yaccinso add the multiverse to a universe repo, save and close the file02:09
intelikeyuncomment as needed...02:10
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Steven_J_Mintelikey: but it will obiviously make the wrong choises again and leave X screwed up etc.02:11
Mark_ok02:11
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Mark_now wht?02:12
intelikeyyaccin you do realize that just adding multiverse to a line that contains universe will not nesseccarly help him don't you.    you should have him pastebin the finished work.02:12
yaccinintelikey: im not good at explaining that in english, sorry ^^02:12
intelikeySteven_J_M if xorg is all that is misconfigured why not just copy the old config over the new one?02:12
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intelikeyyaccin before you started with that i tried to send him a sources.list  i guess firewall got in the way...   i've been down that particular road so many times that i know most bumps by hart.02:14
Mark_i think i need ot install libxine-extracodecs02:15
intelikeyit's so much easier to just dcc them a working sources.list and say   put it in /etc/apt/   and update.02:15
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Mark_but my terminal says its not available, but is referred to by another package02:16
intelikeyMark_ yes that's why 'we' had you working on your sources.list02:16
HymnToLifeintelikey, or having one up somewhere ant tell them to wget it :)02:16
yaccinintelikey: i have a highly costumized sources.list for feisty :/02:16
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intelikeyHymnToLife that would work.   but having it on a pastebin will add M$ markup02:16
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Steven_J_Mintelikey: other things are messed up to, the terminal font for example. I just don't understand how running dpkg-reconfigure again will different to last time.02:17
HymnToLifenot on a pastebin, for example I still have a Dapper one at http://fkraiem.free.fr/sources.list_dapper02:17
Mark_so what do i do?02:18
intelikeyyaccin now, no excuses  :)02:18
Mark_all this work just for an mp3?02:18
yaccinMark_: alt+f202:19
yaccinMark_: enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (without the " again)02:19
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yaccinhit control+A then hit Del02:20
intelikeyMark_ all this work ?    heh   edit one file  (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)   run two command  (sudo apt-get update)   and  (sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs)      is all this work ?02:20
Master_Kaleis there a way to get Automatix2 to work with Kubuntu?02:20
yaccinin your webbrowser open http://bennid.de/files/linux/ << ddapper drake sources.list02:20
SanneMark_: mp3 is proprietary, can't be shipped with Ubuntu. And you have to learn to edit your sources.list and adding repositories anyhow.02:20
yaccincopy the content from the dapper sources.list into kate02:20
yaccinsave it02:20
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yaccinthen open up konsole again02:21
intelikeyyaccin you might as well get this edgy one too02:21
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yaccinah02:21
yaccinim out for a smoke ^^02:21
Steven_J_Mmp3's worked out of the box for me02:21
Dr_willisme to.. but i install  linuxMint. :)02:21
intelikeySteven_J_M not on dapper they didnt   edgy was the first release with libxine-extracodecs02:22
Mark_where do i get the source.list?02:22
intelikeyMark_ it only needs 3 lines  here i'll flood the channel for you.02:23
eagles0513875dont inteli paste bin02:23
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse restricted02:23
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse restricted02:23
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse restricted02:23
eagles0513875that isnt flooding chanel02:24
intelikeythat should be all you need.02:24
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intelikeyit isn't chanel either.02:24
Steven_J_Mintelikey: I used to run dapper, maybe they got installed as a dependancy to something else.02:24
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intelikeySteven_J_M yeah or maybe you installed codecs and forgot about it...   idk  but on dapper drake and prior you can not play mp3 formats without installing beyond the defaults02:25
eagles0513875howbrb02:27
Steven_J_Mintelikey: can you please explain how running dpkg-reconfigure will be any different this time around?02:27
Mark_OMFG it worked!02:27
CiberyaIs there an Automatix for kubuntu PPC?02:27
intelikeySteven_J_M or maybe you installed them while trying to get flac/mp4/avi support ?02:27
Steven_J_Mintelikey: maybe02:27
intelikeySteven_J_M that's the command to fix xorg.   you answer the questions correctly and it should work.   but like i asked why not just copy the old config over the new one.   dpkg-reconfigure will make a backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf* file.02:28
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intelikeysudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf?* /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:29
Mark_thx a-bunch02:29
igorjrhi02:29
igorjri have a question about the adept manager02:30
igorjri tried to download the libxine-extracodecs package02:30
igorjrbut the search function doesn't find it02:30
yaccinlol02:31
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yaccinigorjr: enable multiverse package02:31
igorjrmmmh?02:31
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igorjri did02:31
Steven_J_Mintelikey: because I think other items are messed up to. like the VT terminal font02:31
yaccinigorjr: edgy?02:31
RajuraOk Why does sun-java6-bin take forever to install?02:31
yaccinRajura: show details02:31
yaccinin adept02:31
yaccinbecause theres a license ^^02:31
igorjri enabled the multiverse package and i did refreshe02:31
yaccinyou have to agree02:31
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Rajuraim using synpatc02:32
igorjrsorry, no i'm not edgy, just bad at english ;)02:32
yaccinigorjr: you running edgy or dapper?02:32
yaccin^^02:32
Rajuraand adept wont start up because theres allready a program running using it02:32
igorjr^^02:32
Master_Kale!feisty02:32
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+102:32
Rajuraand i cant figure out how to shut it off02:32
igorjrsorry, i don't know the answer to this question02:32
yipewhenever I try to sign in to my kubuntu-edgy install it says that thecomputer will  be shutting down in one minute, but it never does shut down02:32
Rajuraah there we go02:33
yipeit won't  let me log in, it won't allow me to shut down (because ones already running),02:33
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Master_Kaledo you guys know how to get Automatix2 to work with Kubuntu? It checks to see if Ubuntu is installed and exits out because its not...installed...02:34
igorjryaccin: could you explain it to me02:34
igorjri'm completly new at this and quite lost ;)02:34
SanneRajura: if you still get problems, this page may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java02:34
yaccinigorjr: the releases have "codenames" edgy edge, dapper drake, hoary hedgehog, feisty fawn02:34
yaccin^^02:34
Rajuraty Sanne02:34
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Buddha|Where can I find a list of the repositories for Kubuntu?02:35
yipeMaster_Kale, automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:35
intelikeySteven_J_M add -plow  for all the questions you can get...   but like i said   if you reconfiged to mess it up  then reconfig and fix it.       you first asked if you could copy the configs from the liveCD to the installed system   you can but you wont like it.  and it wont work out of the box cause there are too many cd specific settings in there.02:35
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SanneRajura: you're welcome :)02:35
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Master_Kale!worksforme02:35
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:35
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Buddha|I'm running Xubuntu, but I want newer versions of KOffice02:35
Mena_ /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <123456>02:35
yipeouch02:36
Rajurawhen i try to install the java plugin for firefox i get02:36
Rajurain, scanner, admin02:36
Rajuraerr02:36
igorjrso, you mean the release of kubutu?02:36
HymnToLifeBuddha|, you can use the repos from kubuntu.org02:36
RajuraAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.02:36
Rajuraand theres nothing else running02:36
intelikey/say /msg02:36
Mena_hehehe no porb02:36
SanneBuddha|: here's the page with info: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php02:37
TheVaultHello guys. I have to install Kubuntu because my Ubuntu keeps stopping when I tried to install it, so now I have to use Kubuntu. Am I able to use the GNOME Desktop in Kubuntu?02:37
RajuraTheVault:  yes02:37
intelikey/say /anything that starts with / that you don't want the irc client to interpret02:37
Rajuraif you install  it02:37
yipewhenever I try to sign in to my kubuntu-edgy install it says that thecomputer will  be shutting down in one minute, but it never does shut down02:37
TheVaultwould I do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop02:37
RajuraAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.02:38
RajuraCan someone tell me how to fix that?02:38
Mena_OK02:38
yipeit won't  let me log in, it won't allow me to shut down (because ones already running), it generally reduces my computer to an shiny box02:38
SanneTheVault: ubuntu-desktop02:38
TheVaultahh, so it would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:38
TheVault?02:38
intelikeyyipe  alt+SysRQ+E02:38
yipeintelikey, and what does that do?02:39
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SanneTheVault: yes, that would get you the desktop you would have gotten with your ubuntu install.02:39
TheVaultSanne: Thanks. Thats what I am wanting. I was being explained that Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except with differ desktop environments02:39
SanneTheVault: you can look here what this package will get you: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/metapackages/ubuntu-desktop02:40
RajuraAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.02:40
RajuraSOMEONE02:40
Rajuratell me02:40
Rajurahow to close out of the otherthing02:40
Rajuraif i cant see it02:40
Rajura>.<02:40
TheVaultThanks Sanne02:40
intelikeyyipe  alt+SysRQ+ letters and their use...    E emergency kill all processes    R  reset the keyboard to x-late      U remount readonly     B reboot     and others but those should help you in that area02:41
SanneTheVault: yes, that's right, all the different desktops use the same underlying system02:41
SanneTheVault: you're welcome :)02:41
slyfoxcan someone please tell me where would I fidn this in linux? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver02:41
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slyfoxhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver02:41
SanneTheVault: you can even use single Kde applications in Gnome and vice versa02:41
slyfoxFrom that link, this location - http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver02:41
TheVaultSanne: Got another quick question. If I setup my wireless using the gnome environment, will it work in the KDE?02:41
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slyfoxcrap02:42
slyfoxit does not copy02:42
Rajurasomeone....02:42
Rajuraanyone02:42
SanneTheVault: hmmm, don't know, sorry. Can somebody else please help?02:42
intelikeyheh you can even run kde or gnome in a window of another wm02:42
slyfoxRajura: close out of the otherthing ?02:42
RajuraI cant find it02:42
Rajuranothing else is open02:42
Rajuraand it still says that02:42
TheVaultIntelikey: What i mean is, if I use gnome desktop to install my wireless and then later on decide to use KDE again, will it still be setup?02:43
TheVaultUnder KDE?02:43
SanneRajura: in the page I linked to about Java are some tips what to do if that happens, I think.02:43
intelikeyTheVault network is not wm dependant only the config app is.02:44
yipeI feel like a stupid newb, but which key is sysRQ?02:44
intelikey!adeptfix | Rajura02:44
ubotuRajura: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:44
yipeoh wait.... weird02:44
TheVaultintelikey: So what do you mean by that? Sorry but I am a beginner02:44
intelikeyyipe print_screen most of the keyboards.02:44
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SanneTheVault: you can try. If Gnome accesses the same config files for wireless as does Kde, it should work.02:45
TheVaultSanne: Thanks, I will certaintly try that out02:46
SanneTheVault: I only don't know which config files are used for wireless, as I don't use it myself.02:46
TheVaultSanne: Yeah, I understand. I'm asking this for future reference02:46
igorjri still need help with the adept manager and the libxine-extracodecs pack02:46
SanneTheVault: sure :) you're welcome02:47
igorjri followed the guide one the kubutu page, but still the search gives me no results02:47
intelikeyTheVault meaning that the window manager (wm)  i.e. gnome or kde.   is not responsable for controling the network.  that's on the lower level of the system   (init)    but the app that you use to configure the network is (may be)   wm specific.  so that particular app may or may not work in any given system.    but by enlarge gnome apps will run in kde and vice versa.02:47
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TheVaultintelikey: Ahhh, so makes a whole lotta sense. Thanks :) I understand now02:48
Steven_J_Mintelikey: what does -plow do?02:48
intelikeyTheVault short answer.   YES !02:48
TheVaultintelikey: Thanks, I understand02:48
intelikeySteven_J_M -p = priority   low = low02:49
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Sanneigorjr: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?02:49
TheVaultKDE is more nicer looking than GNOME(my opinion)02:49
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intelikeySteven_J_M means ask me even low priority questions.02:49
slyfoxWhy is this not working well with Konqueror?  http://www.tiddlywiki.com/02:49
intelikeyas opposed to -phigh02:50
igorjrsanne: i'll try02:50
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Sanneigorjr: I can explain further, if you have problems, just shout :)02:50
TheVaultAlright, my installation is done. Thanks guys for all the help :D02:51
slyfoxCan someone please help me with this? How do I find this folder in Linux? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver02:51
igorjrsanne: i'll paste it ;)02:51
SanneTheVault: have fun :)02:51
TheVaultlaters02:51
TheVaultSanne: I sure will!02:51
intelikeyslyfox find / -type d -iname <what_ever_name>02:52
igorjrsanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8484/02:52
Sanneigorjr: looking...02:52
slyfoxigorjr: do I need to run this in sudo ?02:53
Sanneigorjr: look at lines 16 and 1702:53
igorjrye02:53
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vladii just installed herd5, any documentation available as to what I need to install for codecs and such?02:54
Sanneigorjr: after universe, add a blank, then multiverse to those two lines02:54
vladior is it the same packages as 6.10?02:54
igorjrremove the "." ?02:54
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Sanneigorjr: huh? what "."02:55
igorjrno, it's perfectly allright02:55
igorjrif this works, i'll kiss you02:55
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yipeTHANK YOU! that was bizarre and cool and now everything is back how it should be!02:55
igorjroh well02:56
intelikeySteven_J_M do us all a favour.   in a ?onsole, or terminal; type.       man man       and read.     "what does -plow mean indeed..."02:56
yipeand I learned about a button on my keyboard I've never used before!02:56
igorjri have to log on with kde to write this file?02:56
igorjrsorry, i'm completely new to this and I'm quite overwhelmed by linux02:56
Sanneigorjr: no, you can edit it with any editor02:56
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igorjrsanne: it says, i can't write in this directory02:57
Buddha|HymnToLife: I can't find the repos from kubuntu.org02:57
Sanneigorjr: just a sec02:57
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igorjrsanne: ah, it's ok02:58
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Sanneigorjr: are you on kde or gnome right now?02:59
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Sanneigorjr: ping03:00
igorjrsanne: i'm on kde03:00
igorjrright now03:00
Sanneigorjr: please type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:00
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igorjrah, great03:01
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Sanneigorjr: kdesu gives you admin rights for gui apps, so you can now edit the file03:02
HymnToLifeBuddha|, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php03:02
Sanneigorjr: for command line apps, you would use sudo instead of kdesu03:02
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igorjrthank you very much03:02
igorjrtomorrow i will deep down into this very confusing os03:03
Steven_J_Mintelikey: ok thanks. You miss understood me before, I don't want to copy any files from the CD's live system at all. I wondered whether the installer could reconfigure the software to how it was when it was installed.03:03
Sanneigorjr: you're welcome :). Tell me if it works now (or don't)03:03
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danielcheshi03:04
Sannedoesn't, I mean...03:04
danielchesmy java is stuffing up, like its not working in firefox03:05
danielchesin internet>sunjava5 i have a java thingee, how to i get a plugin into the ff thing?03:05
intelikeySteven_J_M no it cant.03:06
Sannedanielches: you should find help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:06
intelikeySteven_J_M the live CD installer is about as worthless as the tits on a boar hog.03:06
danielchesthx03:06
Sannedanielches: if you get stuck somewhere on this page, just ask :)03:07
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Mena_!Inkscape03:07
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more03:07
Mena_Is there a channel for thsi program03:07
Mena_this03:07
danielchesyeah i am stuck03:08
igorjrsanne: seems like it doesn't work03:08
danielcheslike, i think i have done that , in regard to installig the java package03:08
igorjrit refresehes since 2 minutes03:08
danielchesjava appears as an entry in my k menu, under internet03:08
Sanneigorjr: tell me what you did, and what errors you got03:09
intelikeyMena_ /join #inkscape03:09
Mena_danielches, there is a plugin for firefox03:09
Mena_intelikey, ok03:09
danielchesyeah03:09
Mena_intelikey, thanks :)03:09
intelikey:)03:09
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igorjri'll post my file again03:09
Sanneigorjr: ok03:10
Steven_J_Mintelikey: ok thanks anway, I hope I wasn't beinging annoying03:10
om3gaim thinking of trying fedora core03:10
Admiral_Chicagoblasphemy03:10
igorjrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8485/03:10
intelikeySteven_J_M not much.  but if someone sujests  add -somearg   next time you want to know what the arg does just   man the command03:10
om3gai know thats off topic for this channel03:10
om3galol03:11
Admiral_Chicagoi'd say go for it if you like dependency hel.03:11
slyfoxCan soemone please help me to set this up? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver03:11
Steven_J_Mok03:11
om3gaall i have ever used is ubuntu and kubuntu03:11
Sannelooks good igorjr. Let's do the rest at the konsole, so we can see errors better. Please type: sudo apt-get update03:11
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danielchesok, i'm downloading another java file, hopefully this will fix it :)03:12
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igorjrsanne: done03:13
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago wasn't dep_hell like in the third issue of rh or something ?     i had rh9.0   and a few releases of mdk  but never had any problems with deps.03:13
igorjrsanne: but nothing seemed to happen though03:13
Sanneigorjr: you should have gotten some status reports, this just updated your list of available packages.03:13
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intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago as a matter of fact. i have had more trubble with broken dpkg than i ever did with rpm03:14
Sanneigorjr: what package did you want to isntall again?03:14
sanityxHi guys. I'm curious what you love about kde. I'm not here to argue, or anything like that, just want opinions.03:15
igorjrsanne: libxine-extracodecs03:15
Sannesanityx: configurability, konqueror as file manager, kate as editor03:15
sanityxAll good reasons.03:15
Sanneigorjr: ok, please type: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:16
sanityxSanne what do you like about Konquerer?03:16
igorjrsanne: aaah, found it03:16
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igorjrsanne: this is great, i would dance, if i wasn't so tired03:16
intelikeysanityx what do you not like about konq ?03:16
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i had it the other way around intelikey, oh well. offtopic.03:16
sanityxintelikey, I don't have an opinion. I'm asking him for his.03:16
Sannesanityx: it is also very konfigurable, I need a file manager that I can make my own :)03:17
Sanneigorjr: did it work?03:17
Admiral_Chicagoi don't like middleclick for the mouse. love the way Fx handles it03:17
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic03:17
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:17
Admiral_Chicagohaha.03:17
intelikeywell i never found anything about ff that i liked, but hey i get along with links2 just fine.03:19
Sannesanityx: btw, I'm no "hin"03:19
Sannesanityx: "him", even03:19
sanityxlol03:19
sanityxSorry.03:19
Sanne:)03:19
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crazy_bus!offtopic03:20
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:20
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sanityxgrr at firefox for loading the kubuntu iso as plain text03:20
intelikey!botabuse | crazy_bus03:20
ubotucrazy_bus: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...03:20
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sanityxSanne, are you on linuxchix?03:21
intelikeysanityx you can "save as"03:21
sanityxintelikey, I know.03:21
Sannesanityx: no, but I know about that project.03:21
jhutchinsYou know, dependency hell never did actually exist.  It was people who didn't know what they were doing blaming a very good system.03:23
sanityxSanne, some cool people on the list. I find that there's less arrogance there then in the community at large.03:23
jhutchinsHm.  Looks like I was lost in the scrollbuffer again.03:23
intelikeyjhutchins didn't i just say that ?03:23
jhutchinsintelikey: Quite likely.03:23
intelikey:)03:23
rbrunhuber!codecs03:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:24
Sannesanityx: I should check it out again, thanks for reminding me :)03:24
sanityxSanne, :-D03:24
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jhutchinsI mean, you want dependency hell, just try tracking down all the required packages, libraries, headers, and dependencies without a package manager!03:25
Sannesanityx: for the iso, I would use wget. I find it more reliable for large downloads (just a feeling, but still...). And you can easily resume.03:25
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sanityxSanne, I would use it too. If I weren't using windows. But I do use a download manager03:25
Sanneintelikey: what means "make time"? (German here...)03:25
intelikeyjhutchins yessir yessir three bags full.03:25
Sannesanityx: haha! But there's wget for Windows, if I remember correctly.03:26
sanityxThere is, but my download manager intergrates well with firefox.03:26
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Sannesanityx: it's ok, I didn't mean to preach ;)03:26
sanityxand intelikey I AM NOT doing anything of the sort.03:26
sanityxjust talking.03:26
sanityxtalking is fun.03:26
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intelikeySanne 'to coart'   'to woo'     'to bring into faverable attraction'03:27
sanityxSanne, He thinks I'm trying to flirt with you03:27
intelikeySanne watch him.  it's too obvious when they start denying it.03:27
magnushcHey, i have ubuntu, and got my java here. /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08    .My javac works fine. But when i wanna run my prog whit java, i get Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:   . What must i do for making the java work?03:27
Sanneintelikey: oh! You think so? (pushes up hair, redos makeup)03:27
Sanne;)03:27
sanityxHah!03:28
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igorjrsanne, you don't live in munich, do you?03:28
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Admiral_Chicagoanyone how how I can use a GPG with gmail? i can't use a email client because smtp is disabled on campus03:28
Admiral_Chicagois there a way to do that?03:28
igorjrjust checking about a possible coincidence03:28
Sanneigorjr: nope, a bit further north (as in, at the baltic sea)03:28
igorjrgot it03:29
Admiral_Chicagomagnushc: the program has a problem03:29
Sanneigorjr: I wanted to add a recommendation for your sources.list03:29
jhutchinsAdmiral_Chicago: Sure, just sign/encrypt the text, then either paste it into the message or attach it as a file.03:29
igorjrsanne: tell me, but it works now. i found the file03:29
Admiral_Chicagoyou haven't defined a main class as i can tell03:30
sanityxIs the sources.list generator http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ valid for Kubuntu as wel?03:30
sanityxwell*03:30
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jhutchins!easysource03:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:30
Admiral_Chicagojhutchins: huh? i'm sorry just add the text? what do you mean encrypt03:30
jhutchinsLooks like.03:30
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm really bad with GPG.03:30
intelikeysanityx ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu03:30
Sanneigorjr: your last two lines list the dapper-security repository for universe. You might add multiverse there also, to get security fixes.03:30
sanityxintelikey, cool03:30
jhutchinsWrite the message as a text tile, use GPG to do whatever you want done, cut-and-paste or attach the results.03:31
version7If anyone could help me i'm having a problem enableing my wireless in kubuntu if you can help please message me thanks03:31
igorjrah, thx, i'll fix that03:31
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Admiral_Chicagooh i see. i get you. thanks03:31
Admiral_Chicagodidn't think to do it that way03:31
Sanneigorjr: :)03:31
intelikey!wifi > version703:31
Sanneigorjr: and remember to do a 'sudo apt-get update' after editing the file.03:32
jhutchinsversion7: The problem is there are so many possible cards that the web pages are better sources than IRC.03:32
igorjri'm currently downloading the codecs, but i will afterwards03:32
intelikeySanne  " dapper-security for multiverse ? "03:33
Sanneigorjr: that's fine :) Ah, and since you're new, do you have links to the wiki and the community help site?03:33
Sanneintelikey: isn't there?03:33
version7what happens is it is listed in the network connections and when i enable it it puts the green check buy it then goes back to disabled03:33
igorjrsanne: if you could hand them over, i'd like to be able to help myself03:33
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intelikeywont hurt if it's there.  but ubuntu doesn't do security on multiverse  as far as i know.03:33
igorjrsanne: i have a bunch of questions03:33
Sanneigorjr: sec, I'll get them03:33
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[R] eaperhi xD03:34
intelikey!wiki03:34
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation03:34
Sanneigorjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu03:34
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Sannebah intelikey (you're cheating)03:35
Sanne;)03:35
intelikeyyep03:35
[R] eaperi have a "problem", glxgears shows 250 fps (i have ati radeon x1600)03:35
intelikeySanne cli users are notorious for that.03:35
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igorjrsanne: thx03:35
Sanneheh03:35
jhutchinsI have a radeon 7000 and I only get about 450.03:36
intelikey!ati | [R] eaper03:36
ubotu[R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:36
Sanneigorjr: you're welcome. I hope you'll like linux!03:36
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[R] eaperi have the latest ati drivers and glxinfo says Direct Rendering: Yes03:36
jhutchinsSanne: I have a cheat sheet of bot commands.03:36
igorjrsanne: i'm currently very confused and tired03:36
Sannejhutchins: now that's an idea!03:36
intelikey[R] eaper hmm beets me.  i get like 30 fps or something....03:37
igorjrsanne: but it looks like ...aah...something which will keep me busy03:37
igorjr:D03:37
[R] eaper03:37
jhutchinsIt's posted on a server and I use sshfs (fish in konq) to read/write it with kwrite.03:37
Sanneigorjr: that will pass with time. Switching os is like changing appartments, very stressful at first, all unfamiliar.03:37
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jhutchinsUnixes have what's called a steep learning curve - there are so many things to learn at the beginning it's very hard, but it gets a lot easier after you get over the first bit.03:38
igorjrsanne: hopefully ;)  so, cya... I'll relax now with the simpsons03:38
igorjrsanne: thx to you ;)03:38
intelikeyigorjr one thought.  everything you know about computers.  don't bring that to linux.  it won't help.   you have to start at 0 and add 1's just like all the rest of us.03:38
Sanneigorjr: bye, see you03:38
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[R] eaperthere's another 3d benchmark besides glxgears?03:39
intelikeyglxgears is not a benchmarking app03:39
jhutchinsNow if we all started with 0's and 1's instead of a GUI, there'd be far fewer Frequently Asked Questions...03:39
sanityx[R] eaper, well with the ati drivers there's fglrx_glxgears, or something like that03:39
sanityxjhutchins, Hey for me the gui is basically just a way to have 6 terminals on the screen at once03:40
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jhutchinssanityx: Oh, you mean side-by-side as opposed to stacked like in screen.03:40
sanityxjhutchins, Yes.03:40
Sanne[R] eaper: I would use one of the fps's. Doesn't quake3 have a benchmark option?03:40
intelikeyonly 6  ?03:40
sanityxI prefer to see them all at once.03:40
jhutchinsI would like to have something that would tile consoles and scale the text proportionately.03:40
[R] eaperwith fgl_glxgears i get 500 fps :(03:41
jhutchins[R] eaper: What do you think you should get?03:41
intelikeyyou can't see above about 7003:41
[R] eapera lot more03:41
[R] eaperits a damn ati radeon x1600 XD03:41
jhutchins[R] eaper: How much?  Why?03:41
jhutchins[R] eaper: So it's supposed to go to 11?03:42
slyfoxHow do I enable webcam support ?03:42
SanneI'm going to sleep now. Bye all.03:42
intelikey!webcam03:42
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:42
sanityxNight03:42
jhutchinsslyfox: Well, do you have a live goat, or at least a chicken?03:42
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[R] eaperwith my old radeon 9250 i got 3000 fps on glxgears 03:42
jhutchins'Night Sanne03:42
jhutchins[R] eaper: Ah, now we have something to work with!03:43
intelikeyyou still can't see above about 7003:43
slyfoxjhutchins: Is that a joke ?03:43
[R] eaper^^03:43
sanityxDoes automatix work fine on kubuntu?03:43
jhutchinsslyfox: Yes.  But webcam support in linux is very iffy.03:43
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slyfoxjhutchins: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/linux-uvc/  ?03:44
intelikeyjhutchins it shouldn't be.   what about enbeded security systems ?03:45
slyfoxUSB Video Class devices., oops I have a built in camera03:45
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Buddha|Does anyone happen to know what repo I could find an updated version of the Basket package in?03:45
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intelikeyBuddha| updated versions are not packaged for older releases by default.   if the package is too old maybe the one in the next release will work.03:46
intelikeyor source.03:47
intelikey!b-e03:47
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:47
benjoer456how do i get libc6 package03:47
intelikeyyou have libc603:47
Buddha|The latest version of Basket isn't any newer than the latest version of KOffice, as far as I know03:47
benjoer456but a newer version (2.4blabla..) needed for installing libmpeg303:48
intelikeythe latest version of koffice is not packaged for older releases either.03:48
Buddha|I'm just wondering what repo the Basket package is in03:48
intelikey!basket03:48
ubotubasket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB03:48
Jucatobasket is in universe03:48
benjoer456but a newer version (2.4blabla..) of libc6 needed for installing libmpeg303:48
Jucatothere's a .deb package for Basket 1.0 available from their website. But unless 1.0 is backported from Feisty we don't have it on Edgy03:49
Buddha|I'm actually running Xubuntu, not Kubuntu, so what do I need to add to my sources.list file?03:49
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JucatoBuddha|: Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu share the same repositories (except for KDE and KOffice updates)03:50
Buddha|Synaptic complains if I just add 'universe' after 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main'03:50
intelikeybenjoer456   dpkg -l | grep libc603:50
intelikeybenjoer456 what version do you have ?03:50
JucatoBuddha|: no. Basket is not in the kubuntu.org repositories03:50
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intelikeyor just leave.03:50
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jackJucato: hi do you have any idea why i need for kopete and kwallet to enter the password again and again even so it should be remembered there?for some other apps kwallet doesnt work too03:50
Jucatojack: no idea. I have no problems here w/ kwallet...03:51
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Admiral_Chicagojack: is kwallet launched when you launch kopete?03:51
Far^Sidehello, does anyone know how I could rotate the X11 display?03:51
Buddha|Far^Side: turn your monitor upside-down03:52
JucatoFar^Side: press Alt+F2, type in: krandrtray03:52
JucatoFar^Side: you will get a system tray icon for it03:52
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intelikeyJucato do you have any idea what about ubuntu-linux that would alter the hwclock ?    and it's not the /etc/init.d/hwclock*.sh scripts i don't use them.03:52
Jucatointelikey: sorry, nope :(03:52
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intelikeybut you were doing so good at answering them all....03:53
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: can you help me with my X set up03:53
n8k99intelikey: you don't happen to dual boot do you03:53
Admiral_Chicagohaha, jking. you're popular tonight :)03:53
intelikeyn8k99 yeah03:53
Jucatohaha :)03:53
n8k99Jucato: can you fetch me a cup of coffee?03:53
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: btw, no idea about Gmail and GPG. :P03:53
jackAdmiral_Chicago: it launches both, so i eed to enter two passwords instead of one03:53
Far^SideBuddha|, lol03:53
intelikeyn8k99 lilo though.  grub is too week to boot this box03:53
Jucato(you thought I didn't see you question? :P)03:53
Steven_J_Mintelikey: Hi again I've booted back into my own system and X is working after copying over the backup file like you said. I'm just wondering whether dpkg-recfigure would've made a backup of the file(s) concerning the VT fonts?03:53
n8k99intelikey: that is possibly the culprit03:54
Far^SideJucato, I got the systray icon, but there is no rotate features there. Do you know how I could enable that feature?03:54
Admiral_Chicagohmm, thats odd, i don't have that issue ever. might want to look in ~/.kde/03:54
intelikeyn8k99 no chance.03:54
Jucatointelikey: too week? maybe you should count by days :)03:54
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yea, the network here sucks, wish i could use Kmail and SMTP03:54
intelikeyweak ?    <sp?>03:54
JucatoFar^Side: when you right-click on the systray icon?03:54
Far^SideJucato, yes, it just says Screen Size and Refresh Rate03:55
intelikeyJucato you promised you wouldn't make fun of my pissmelling words anymore.03:55
JucatoFar^Side: hm... strange....03:55
Jucatointelikey: ooops soooweeee :)03:55
n8k99intelikey: i had that problem when i was dual booting the other s tried to update to a different clock than the one ubuntu updates to03:55
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Admiral_Chicagomaybe the card can't handle it?03:56
intelikeyn8k99 but i haven't booted any other disk in months so that's not the cause here.03:56
hassanmHellow03:56
n8k99intelikey ok03:56
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: true03:56
Jucatomine can't it seems..03:56
intelikeyrandr == r & r03:57
Far^SideJucato, I guess I need RandR03:57
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intelikeylol03:57
Admiral_Chicagomine can't either...which is odd.03:57
Jucatobrb... need to order some pizza03:57
Admiral_Chicagomaybe its the driver Jucato ?03:57
Far^SideRandR extension in X03:57
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intelikeygood use of regex   lol03:57
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: or an extension you need to enable.. not really sure :)03:57
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intelikeypouts    ;S04:00
hassanmI installed ubuntu on IBM thinkcentre, but I was not able to start xserver, I did run reconfigure the xserver without success, any ideas what to do?04:00
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Admiral_Chicagohassanm: what does sudo starx in a terminal04:01
intelikeyhassanm reconfigure it again.  don't use   'vesa'  or   'kernel frame buffering'    and make sure you answer all questions correctly.04:02
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igorjri got a new problem04:04
hassanmintelikey when I start x, I get black screen and the monitor does not seem to be receiving anything.  I will reconfigure, Thanks04:04
igorjri tried to install my printer, but it says the driver maybe not where it is expected to be or i have no authorisation04:04
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igorjri did in administration-mode04:04
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intelikeyhassanm that sounds like frame buffering is enabled  jsut a guess.04:05
Steven_J_Mhow do I get the computer to set edgy default console font on startup?04:05
hassanmintelikey, how to disable it?04:06
intelikeykernel frame buffering is fenicy,  it either works or you get lots of really odd outputs   "blank screen" being amoung the most often seen.04:06
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intelikeyhassanm in the dpkg-recongifure xserver-xorg   it will ask.04:07
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jackJucato: if i install in the controlcenter an icon set in the tat04:08
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Jucatohuh?04:08
Steven_J_Mintelikey: would dpkg-recfigure have made a backup of the file(s) concerning the VT fonts?04:08
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intelikeySteven_J_M possably  but off hand i wouldn't know where to tell you to look.04:09
jacktar.gz fomrat, it tells me that :The file is not a valid icon theme archive.04:09
jackjucato is there something against it, as i fancy this really, this set so lol04:09
intelikeySteven_J_M what release are you running ?04:09
Jucatojack: maybe it's not an  icon theme? are you installing it from System Settings? don't extract the contents. just install the .tar.gz itself04:10
Steven_J_Mintelikey: 6.1004:10
jackjucato thats what i try to do it is in the kde-look.org in the icons, so not called a theme, but with icons from there it worked before fine too04:11
intelikeySteven_J_M    invoke_rc.d console-screen.sh restart        maybe ?04:11
intelikeynot sure about edgy.04:11
jackJucato: i'd need to exchange it by hand then?04:11
intelikeyJucato does edgy have  /etc/init.d/ scripts ?04:12
hassanminteikey: after reconfig and startx, the same.. There are some errror  (cannot open /dev/wacom)04:12
sanityxWhats the deal with Kubuntu not including firefox by default. I mean I know, I know, Konquerer is kde's browser. But come on.04:12
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intelikeyhassanm (cannot open /dev/wacom) is not an error in ubuntu it's a feature.04:13
intelikeyhassanm what else does it spit out ?04:13
igorjrhey, can anybody help me with my printer-setup?04:13
Steven_J_Mintelikey: do I type that invoke line exactly?04:14
intelikeyhassanm you can redirrect the output       startx | less 2>&104:14
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intelikeySteven_J_M yeah.    also might test    /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh restart04:14
intelikeyor just start in place of restart04:15
hassanmintelikey: that is all04:15
hassanmintelikey: I will try that04:15
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carutsuhello04:16
intelikeyhassanm hmmm also look in     less ~/.xsession-errors   and  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    for info.04:17
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smaxhi gang04:17
smaxwhat is the best way to have $HOME on my slave hard drive?  just have /home/smax a symbolic link to /media/hdb1/home/smax  ?04:18
intelikeyhassanm you did select to "not use" kernel frame buffering  in the reconfig  did you not ?04:18
intelikeysmax no mount it as /home/smax    or as /home  if you don't care for other accounts being there too04:19
Steven_J_Mintelikey: invoke_rc.d command not found04:19
carutsuscuse me, why isnt in the repostories openoffice 2.1, it was released long ago04:19
carutsu?04:19
smaxintelikey: im the only user logging in this machine.  thanx04:19
intelikeySteven_J_M maybe dash in place of underscore04:20
carutsuanyone?04:20
hassanmintelikey: yes, I did not use kernel fram buffering04:20
smaxi have a sound blaster 5.1  does the bot know about installing sound drivers?04:21
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intelikeyhassanm you can try it with "vesa"   that might get you a screen   but even if it works you will later be reconfiguring it.04:21
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intelikey!sound | smax04:21
ubotusmax: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:21
carutsuwel.. nevermind, forget that... another question, whenever i try to play a shared mp3 (is on a windows pc) Amarok Crashes04:21
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carutsuif i open it locally (i mean i copy it then play it)04:22
carutsuit plays it with no problem04:22
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hassanmintelikey: the video card is intel 82915G/GV/910GL   will versa work with that04:23
intelikeywell i'm gona take the loot and scoot.     i mean i'm gona get the doah and go.04:23
intelikeyhassanm vesa  and yes it should.  but vesa is limited in it's rendering.04:23
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jhutchinscarutsu: Because everybody is getting fed up with Open Office's attempt to clone both the code bloat and the disfunctional crash-prone character of MS Office.04:27
jhutchinscarutsu: Try koffice.04:27
jhutchins(Although kspread kinda... dissappoints.)04:28
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carutsuactually is far better than MS04:29
carutsui plan to try kofice but i like OOo...04:29
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carutsueven OOo isnt as good04:35
carutsui tried to migrate a meduim-sized company04:35
carutsudidnt work out04:35
carutsufor 1!! single file04:35
carutsuthe company was based totally on it04:36
carutsuand OOo couldnt get it right....04:36
carutsuu_u04:36
carutsudepresing04:36
carutsui had convinced them of changing to linux04:36
Jucatowell, KOffice is worse when it comes to opening/importing MS Office files04:37
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lnxkdeheretic: I love you!04:37
lnxkdeI just modified your xorg.conf and it worked :'(04:38
lnxkde:D04:38
carutsuxD still cant belive it?04:38
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fyrmedicAnyone know how to diagnose and fix sound problems?04:42
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carutsui know what you will tell me... but i need to check hotmail with Kmail... i heard of a script04:42
carutsubut i NEED to keep the mail on the server till i erase it on the inbox04:43
carutsuis there a way to do that?04:43
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carutsusorry fyrmedic always has worked "out of the box" for me04:43
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matthewlinux-source-<version> What do I replace <version> with? I'm using Kubuntu Feisty04:44
SlynderdaleIs it realitively safe to delete a single file on a NTFS drive under Kubuntu?04:44
carutsuSlyderdale as far as i know yes04:45
carutsuthey have even released a 1.0 ver04:45
carutsuof not-remember-what program wich is very stable04:45
carutsu!NTFS04:45
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:45
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Slynderdale!ntfs-3g04:46
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:46
carutsui think has just been updated04:46
carutsutry searching for it04:46
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Master_KaleI'm following a guide on virtualizing Windows, and it tells me to install qemu, linux-source-VERSION, and KQemu-Source04:52
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Master_Kalefor the linux-source-VERSION, what do I replace VERSION with?04:52
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Dr_willisthe version of the kernel you are using04:54
smaxummmm yea.  how do i boot the off my master hard drive by default?  just becuase i have a linux partition on my slave drive, grub takes the senceless route and brings up a grub prompt,  rather than just booting the damn thing04:54
Dr_willissearch the package manager for linux-source04:54
Dr_willisactually it may just need the kernel-headers.04:54
Master_KaleI got linux-source installed already04:54
Dr_willis!info qemu04:54
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)04:54
Dr_willisiqemu is allready in the repos.. you shoudl be able to just apt-get install it.04:55
Master_Kalebut qemu and kqemu aren't showing up; do I need to add them to my repositories list?04:55
Dr_willisI perfer vmware, and virtualbox to qemu04:55
Dr_willis!info kqemu04:55
ubotuPackage kqemu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:55
redcardWhat's the difference between vmware and virtualbox?04:55
Master_KaleI'm using Feisty04:55
Dr_williskqemu is not gpl i think04:55
Dr_willisredcard,  differnt companies.04:55
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Dr_willisthey seem to work about the same for me04:55
Dr_willisvmware has some bigger features for the big companies it seems04:56
Dr_willisbut for my testing of live cd's they both work decently well04:56
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smaxi would like to have $home mount from my slave drive,  but how am i supposed to get the device name if i get a grub prompt rather than just linux booting.04:56
Master_Kalewhen I try 'sudo apt-get install qemu' I get back 'E: Couldn't find package qemu"04:57
smaxif i have linux on a master device, shouldnt the default thing to do is just boot of the master device regardless of what is on the slave?04:57
Dr_willisthat tells me you dont have all the repositories set up04:57
Dr_willissmax,  to get home somewhere else.. you just edit the fstab and moun tit whever you want04:57
Lijohsomeone help me04:58
Dr_willisyou could even do this after an install - easy to move /home to some where else04:58
Lijohi cant open rar file04:58
Dr_willis!rar04:58
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:58
Dr_willis!unrar04:58
smaxDr_willis: how am i going to mount in the first place if i dont know the name of the device in /dev?04:58
Lijohyes04:58
smaxhence grub interferees04:58
Lijohyes unrar04:58
Dr_willissmax,  fdisk -l04:58
smaxand NOT boots04:58
smaxi cant get past grub04:58
Lijohim newbie04:58
Dr_willissmax,  now you are getting to the real problem then it seems.04:58
smaxgrub is soo stuipid. i have linux on my slave too.  OOOO WOW so why can grub just boot from the master anyway.04:59
Dr_willisLijoh,  install the  unrar-free package or the nonfree rar program from the repositories..04:59
smaxas of now.  the slave is unplugged04:59
Dr_willissmax,  ive never had grub be at issue with my 7 hard drives.. :)04:59
Lijohwhere can i download it?04:59
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Dr_willisLijoh,  use the package manager, to install them. You may need to add the extra repositories05:00
smaxwould i need to erase grub from my slave drive too ?05:00
Master_KaleDr_willis: yeah, I'm not even able to install VMWare; if you can point me to the repositorie I need to install, I can take care of that05:00
Dr_willisor 'check' on the extra repositories05:00
Admiral_Chicagosmax: no05:00
Dr_willis!vmware05:00
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware05:00
smaxAdmiral_Chicago: well what do you suggest?05:00
Dr_willisMaster_Kale,  vmware server is not in the repos.05:00
fyrmedicF1re-hose05:01
smaxim am NOT going to configure grub.conf.  too much shit to fiddle with. if i want to fiddle with shit i'll install gentoo05:01
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Master_KaleDr_willis: hmm05:01
Admiral_Chicagosmax: well, GRUB will overwrite it but it will still be on the slave. I recommend leaving but realize it may need fiddling if you wove your slave around05:01
Dr_willisgrub loads and reads its config files from where its set up to do so.. then that shows the grub menus.. What is grub doing exactly?05:01
SlynderdaleHow do you tell what versuon of a package you have such as FUSE?05:01
Dr_willisThe ubuntu/kubuntu/installers some how manage to scan the system to include most all of my linux disrtos in the default ubuntu grub menu. which suprised me05:01
smaxDr_willis: linux loads, when i dont have my slave plugged in.  but when i do plug  it in. i get a grub prompt05:02
smaxand linux NOT loads05:02
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Dr_willissmax,  so no drive in.. you do or do not get a grub menu?05:02
Dr_willisactually grub is hidden by default isent it? hit escape and see if you get the full grub menu.05:03
smaxDr_willis: grub menu?  why should i fiddle with grub?  id rather reinstall kubuntu on the slave device or with the slave plugged in for grub to get it right.05:03
Dr_willissmax,  do whatever ya want then.. im not clear on what the problem is or whats going on...05:03
Dr_willisgrub is one of those tools it pays to read/learn and twiddle with.05:03
smaxDr_willis: it's simple. with the slave plugged in. i get a grub prompt when i want X or LInux to boot05:04
Dr_willisthe slave drive is  the slave to the drive that linux is instlled in?05:04
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Dr_willisIf you are getting a grub:> prompt it may be the drives are some how getting 'reordered' and grub is no longer finding its config files.05:05
smaxso why does linux boot when the slave is out.  but NOT (and rather grub menu) when the slave is plugged in05:05
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smaxhmm05:05
Dr_willisthe use of your phrase 'linux boots' seems odd.. GRUB loads, then boots up linux.05:05
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Dr_willisnow you may or may not be seeing it do so.. or it may be doing it real fast..05:05
smaxwell then X and my desktop05:05
Dr_willisX and  the desktop has nothing to do with grub....05:06
smaxexactly05:06
smaxi want that05:06
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smaxNOT grub05:06
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smaxor grub>05:06
Lijohthanks Dr_willis05:06
smaxi dont want to see  grub>  when i plug the slave in.05:06
Dr_willisGRUB loads first.. from the MBR of the drives.. it then loads up Linux, whoich then loads up X or whatever ya want.05:06
Dr_willissmax,  exactly.. GRUB is some how gettting confused by the extra drive05:06
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smaxwhy doesnt it just load the OS on the Master05:06
fuelGrub -> Linux | m$05:07
smaxthat would be the smart choice05:07
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Dr_willisGRUB is some how gettting confused by the extra drive05:07
francohi all from argentina!!!05:07
fuelsmax : since grub is installed on the boot drive......05:07
Dr_willissmax,  i think you are failing to understand the fundmentals of how grub works.05:07
smaxgreat now i have to remove it off the extra drive05:07
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fuelor *active* drive05:07
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smaxi dont want to fiddle with shit to just code.  i thought ubuntu was for "human n00bs"05:07
fuel:)05:08
Dr_willissmax,  go do whatever ya want then.. im done here.05:08
smaxgrub is stuipid05:08
SlynderdaleWhere is fstab located?05:08
Dr_willissmax,  yea.. whatever.05:08
smaxhell i can have two windows drives.  and it would be smart enuff to boot from the master.05:08
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Admiral_ChicagoSlynderdale: /etc/fstab05:08
Admiral_ChicagoAFK for the night.05:08
Dr_willissmax,  yea.. whatever.....05:08
smaxDr_willis: its true05:08
fuelsmax : why is grub stupid ?05:08
SlynderdaleWhats wrong with grub?05:09
fuelsmax : think before you spit out05:09
fuel!think05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
fuel!sense05:10
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:10
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fueldamn!05:10
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Dr_willisfuel,  you showed him!05:11
Dr_willisdarn grub and all its badness!05:11
SlynderdaleWhere is the default location for grub?05:12
fuelSlynderdale: its in your /boot/grub location05:12
Dr_willisgrub is normally installed to the MBR. its configs are in /boot/grub05:12
naught101anyone else find that skype freezes their machine when it gets incoming messages?05:12
Slynderdalefuel: Thanks05:12
fuelnaught101: same here :)05:12
Dr_willisIF you add a new hard drive the location it looks for /boot/grub can change. and THAT can confuse things05:12
fuelnaught101: its just stupid....05:12
fuelDr_willis: no it need not.......if you remove the master pin from the new hard drive05:13
fuelactually the problem is not with grub.......its how you connect your drives05:13
naught101fuel: no solution?05:13
Dr_willisfuel,  ive twiddled and fought with grub so much. :)05:13
Dr_willisever remove a cdrom and instal a hd? heh that shifted them all down..05:13
Dr_willisbut the use of uuid and other stuff i guess is supposed to 'fix' some of that05:14
fuelnaught101: so far no .......you have to stop using skype for text chat :) . on the other hand....if you keep  your chat window open it does not hang05:14
naught101ah, interesting.05:14
naught101fucking skype05:14
fuelbut anyway skype voice clarity on linux rocks :)05:15
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Dr_willisheh  they finially got the oss and alsa stuff worked out?05:15
sanityxI can't seem to find that configuration wizard that KDE normally has in Kubuntu. Is it not htere?05:15
fuelyeah . it works perfectly fine05:15
naught101yeah, about 6 months ago?05:15
sanityxor rather KDE normally has05:15
Dr_willissanityx,  not installed by default05:15
fuelsanityx: ?05:15
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Dr_willisi forget its name..05:15
sanityxDr_willis, Any idea what the package is called?05:15
sanityxdamn.05:15
fuel!google05:15
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux05:15
Dr_willissome 'kde-firsttime' or somthing?05:16
sanityxAlso anybody know a good program for managing CPU speed? My laptop wont stop clocking itself down to 800 mhz05:16
Dr_willistheres several kde packages that are not installed by default05:16
fuelDr_willis: dvd does not have kde devel included by default..... which pissed me off05:17
fuelDr_willis: i wonder whats there in the dvd! i find no difference between cd and dvd installation. :(05:17
Dr_willisfuel,  given the # of updates since the dvd was mastered.. it would proberly be out of date  anyway05:17
fueltrue05:17
Steven_MI messed up the console font when I ran dpkg-reconfigure -a and now edgy isn't setting it's default on startup and the vt are displaying garbage chars in some apps.05:18
sanityxGrr synaptic wont launch.05:18
fuelsanityx: kill it and launch again05:18
sanityxI've dont a clean install of kubuntu + apt-get install synaptic.05:18
fuelsanityx: why do you use synaptic ?? use adept05:18
sanityxfuel, No, I'm going to use synaptic, thanks.05:18
fuelsanityx: why ?05:19
darksider415sanityx: I know that Feisty allows you to select whether it clocks down or not, but it's not out of alpha, yet.05:19
SolidSourcesanityx: if its AMD...that is handled within the CPU itself, if youi use superkaramba > system monitor you will see it speed up under heavier loads...though there are methods to manually do it05:19
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Steven_Many ideas on how do fix?05:19
sanityxSolidSource, Yeah I know the cpu handles it, but under windows I have a utility that lets me force it05:19
sanityxfuel, Because I already know it. No compelling reason not to?05:19
SolidSourcesanityx: go to AMDs website...they have info about that for linux05:20
sanityxSolidSource, I'll check it out thanks.05:20
Dr_willisMy laptop can speed up/down with kde under edgy..05:20
sanityxDr_willis, manually?05:20
SolidSourceDr_willis: thats cause the kernel has the AMD driver built in05:20
darksider415Dr_willis: He wants to do so manually...05:20
Dr_willisi can force it to slow down, or speed up...05:20
Dr_willistheres some kde-applet that let me set what throttling to use05:21
sidnelsonhow do i monitor the memory consuming of only on process ? can i do with watch05:21
Dr_williscouldent play videos at less then 50% throttling.05:21
sidnelsonprocessor cosuming  too05:21
sanityxSolidSource, It wouldn't be a problem, except that my CPU ALWAYS clocks down for some reason.05:22
sanityxUnder linux, anyway.05:22
Steven_MI messed up the console font when I ran dpkg-reconfigure -a and now edgy isn't setting it's default on startup and the vt are displaying garbage chars in some apps. Any ideas how to fix it?05:22
darksider415sanityx: Mine did the same thing under Edgy. (Intel Core Duo)05:22
SolidSourcesanityx: thats because it doesn't have that heavy enough load going through it05:22
sanityxTurion X2 here.05:22
Dr_willisSteven_M,  rerun  that dpkg-reconfigure -a ?05:22
redcardI cannot wait for my laptop to arrive... but.. are there any essential programs I'd need/want?05:22
Dr_willis!find laptop05:23
ubotuFound: laptop-detect, laptop-mode-tools, education-laptop, klaptopdaemon, kpowersave (and 4 others)05:23
darksider415redcard: What do you want to do with it?05:23
sanityxsweet05:23
sanityx!laptop-mode-tools05:23
ubotulaptop-mode-tools: Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power. In component main, is optional. Version 1.31-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 348 kB05:23
redcarddarksider415: Typical things.. write stuff/docs, etc..05:23
Dr_willisgot a Turion laptop also05:23
sanityxturions aren't as nice as core duos unfortunately.05:23
darksider415redcard: You should be good to go, then. Just make sure to install libxine-extracodecs05:23
sanityxI learned that the hard way05:23
redcarddarksider415: Mind you, I HAVE kubuntu right now. Been using it for a good long time.  It just occurred to me that I never used linux on a laptop :)05:23
sanityxredcard, What laptop are you getting?05:24
redcardsanityx: Dell E140505:24
sanityxah ok05:24
darksider415redcard: I'm running Kubuntu Feisty (Herd 5) on my Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002, and everything worked out of the box. Wireless, 3D video, everything.05:24
sanityxWell I don't know if this applies to the E1405, but on my dell inspiron 1501, the hard drives aren't detected by default05:24
Steven_MDr_willis: why would it turn out better this time?05:24
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sanityxredcard, If that happens to you, boot with the kernel parameter pci=nomsi05:25
Dr_willisSteven_M,  Huh?05:25
redcardsanityx: Huh05:25
sanityxOk. Never mind. If it happens, you'll know what I meant.05:25
sanityxWhen I boot off Ubuntu, or almost any other distro, with the exception of knoppix, my hard drives aren't detected.05:26
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SolidSourcesanityx: do mean they aren't mounted?05:26
sanityxSolidSource, No.05:27
sanityxSolidSource, I mean the Kubuntu/Ubuntu installer says no hard drives found.05:27
Dr_willisif you do a 'fdisk -l' the drives dont show up at all ?05:27
sanityxno not at all05:27
sanityxListen05:27
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sanityx I fixed it already05:27
sanityxI was just saying that for redcard's benifit.05:27
SlynderdaleThat is weird, I just choosed to restart Kubuntu and it went to the log off screen, but instead of cleanly shutting everything down, it simply went black and rebooted.05:27
sanityxWith the dell inspiron 1501, you have to use pci=nomsi for the system to see your drives05:27
Dr_willisthats a new one.05:28
redcardsanityx: Thanks, I'll write it down and make certain I do that.05:28
sanityxredcard, Nono lol. Try booting first.05:28
sanityxredcard, If you have the problem, THEN do that.05:28
redcardsanityx: Well, yeah :) If I needed to :)05:28
MenaDr_willis, can i update a single app05:28
sanityxI'm not sure what other models of dell laptop it does or doesn't affect.05:29
Dr_willisMena,  such as?05:29
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MenaDr_willis, bec there is a new updtae for inkscape and i cant update my ver05:29
Steven_MDr_willis: If I rerun dpkg-reconfigure -a why would it out any differently this time?05:29
MenaDr_willis, update*05:29
daftmanhi05:29
Dr_willisSteven_M,  perhaps ya entered a wrong value somewhere.05:29
MenaHello!05:29
daftmanif I upgrade wine manually, through build from source05:29
daftmandoes it replace my wine in my apt-get ?05:29
daftmanor does it create another app cal wine05:30
daftman*call05:30
Dr_willisMena,  if the new version isent in the repositories.. well..  can you find pacages for it somewher else?05:30
Admiral_Chicagobennukem: beinng sober sucks...05:30
redcardOkay. Sweet.   You can use the Xbox360 controller05:30
Admiral_Chicagohaha, oops, wrong window...by alot. sorry05:30
Steven_MDr_willis: I wouldn05:30
sanityxGrr, I should not have to apt-get firefox.05:30
redcardNow I really want this laptop :)05:30
Dr_willisdaftman,  proberly to remoe the package with the tools.. then install from source.05:30
sanityxIt should be there.05:30
MenaDr_willis, i dont know i will see05:30
MenaDr_willis, :)05:31
daftmanso I should do apt-get remove wine --purge?05:31
daftmanwouldn't that remove my .wine directory and my wine config?05:31
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Dr_willisdaftman,  the package manger should NEVER touch stuff in the users home dirs05:31
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Dr_willisif it can do it.. ive never seen it done..05:31
Steven_MDr_willis: I wouldn't know want the correct value is anyway, I just accepted the defaults.05:32
daftmanok thank you Dr_Willis05:32
Master_KaleDr_willis: is it usual to have a laptop keyboard that freaks out, repeating key strokes or popping up menus that I haven't called up?05:32
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Dr_willisSteven_M,  heh. i hate the look of the drfault font.. but the thing proberl asks what default font to use.05:32
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Skreech2Hello05:32
darksider415Master_Kale: What model notebook?05:32
Master_KaleHP dv5030us05:32
Skreech2Can the Kubuntu installer resize/repartition NTFS ?05:33
Skreech2!laptop05:33
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org05:33
Dr_willisSteven_M,  try the 'consolechars -d' command see if it sets your fonts back to normal05:33
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MenaDr_willis, i must The installed one befor using the update right bec i have it as autopackage05:34
Steven_MDr_willis:  ok thanks, as root?05:34
Menaremove*05:34
Dr_willisSteven_M,  not sure.. just tried it in the console and it reset my fonts back to the 'normal' defaults.05:34
Menanever mind :)05:34
Menai will remove it05:34
Dr_willisits not a perment fix.. but that command can let ay change the fonts to try the other console fonts out also.05:35
Steven_Mok thanks :)05:35
Skreech2Dr_willis: I can safely resize ntfs dives on install right?05:35
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Dr_willisSkreech2,  i think you should 'defrag' and 'scandisk' befor..05:36
Skreech2Defragging now05:36
Dr_willisi THINK the instller can resize ntfs. but i always use a 2nd hd for linux05:36
Skreech2Whats the Scandisk for?05:36
Dr_willisto be safe :)05:36
Skreech2Ah Yeah it's a laptop though05:36
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bioflamehello all05:37
Skreech2So dropping in a second hard drive doesn't feel like much of an option05:37
redcardOh, here's an interesting thought.  That Dell I'm getting is going to have Vista on it.. can I resize Vista?05:37
bioflamehow do i stop the xserver05:37
Dr_willisbioflame,  - sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop    (is 1 way)05:38
bioflamethx05:38
Skreech2bioflame: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:38
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Skreech2To simply restart Alt+ctrl+BkSpc05:38
Skreech2Save your work first :)05:38
Dr_willisyep- alt-ctrl-backspace is the Kick-X in the  head method.05:39
Skreech2Anyone has tried to resize NTFS with the Kubuntu installer?05:39
darksider415I have, and it usually works with NTFS partitions written by XP, but not with Vista.05:40
Dr_willisSkreech2,  now that you mention it.. i did use the instller to resize my laptops ntfs drive.05:40
Skreech2Dr_willis: Sweet :005:40
Dr_willisglad to help. :)05:40
Dr_willisheh05:40
Skreech2Thats all I need to hear :)05:40
Dr_willisjust dont let that 'bad' grub mess you up. :P05:41
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Skreech2Naw I ate earlier :)05:41
Dr_willisGrub is an amazing tool...05:41
redcardDr_willis: Might I ask you if that would work on Vista?05:41
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Dr_willisI have yet to even see a machine running vista05:42
Dr_willis;)05:42
redcardAh :)  I've seen a few through my job.  We do programming on .NET / MFC and what not.05:42
Skreech2redcard: I have un authortative data that says that it should work on Vista if it works on XP05:42
Skreech2YMMV05:42
redcardSkreech2: Cool enough :)05:43
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darksider415redcard: I know for a fact that M$ has modified NTFS to where the ntfs resizing tools in the Kubuntu installer won't work, but Vista has a built-in resizing tool that does work pretty well.05:43
Dr_willisgee.. that is nice of MS isent it...05:43
Steven_MDr_willis:  what encoding should I select in dpkg-recnfigure setup?05:43
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Dr_willisfirst ive herad that.. makes ya wonder what they did to makeit where you cant resize it.05:43
redcarddarksider415: Heh :) Does that present any problems with the bootloader?05:44
LL_Hakaisouhello05:44
Dr_willisstefan,  not sure.. ive rarely messed with encodeing stuff05:44
bonbonthejonhi LL_Hakaisou05:44
Dr_willisSteven_M,  i mean. :()05:44
Dr_willisSteven_M,  not sure how to tell what the defaults are either. :(05:44
Skreech2Dr_willis: It's big-endian now :)05:44
Steven_MDr_willis: ok05:45
darksider415GRUB doesn't see the Vista partition, but you can manually add it later. I'm speaking of my experience with my Grandpa's Toshiba, which frustrated me to the point of just doing a clean Kubuntu install, since he's got the install discs.05:45
Skreech2darksider415: See I always try a full install first :)05:46
redcarddarksider415: Darn.  Can you use Vista's bootloader like you could with NT's?05:46
Skreech2You can set NT's bootloader to load Linux?05:46
sidnelsonVLC is a good player for mpeg video ??05:46
Dr_willisi like vlc05:46
darksider415redcard: You can manually edit GRUB to add Vista to the menu.lst05:46
bonbonthejonvlc is nice05:46
redcarddarksider415: Ahh.05:47
sidnelsonok05:48
sidnelsonthnks05:48
redcardOh.. what do you guys use for wireless?  knetworkmanager?05:48
sidnelsoni will try05:48
Dr_willisi run wires. :)05:48
darksider415I tell you, everyone I know with a Vista machine has asked me to install Kubuntu within three days of purchase... I think I like Microsoft, if only for helping to fix Ubuntu's number 1 bug...05:48
jackhi i accidentally changed the keyboard layouts and cannot make in unhappen in the system settings..y and z are swapped, ger and american lazout..anyone an idea_05:48
redcarddarksider415: Well, I'm ambivelant towards vista.  But.. I'm getting it for free with the dell.05:48
Steven_MDr_willis: what's the command for reconfiguring the fonts?05:49
Dr_willisSteven_M,  consolechars can set them05:49
Dr_willisSteven_M,  tjers some scripts/settings/services that sets them automaticially.05:49
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jarnHow do I configure what Konversation outputs when I type /media05:50
brittanykind of new. anyone know any good irc servers?05:51
Steven_MDr_willis:  nope, no defult font found?05:51
sanityxAm I retarded, or is there really not a gui tool for changing themes included by default05:51
Dr_willisUTF-8 UNI seem to be the defaults Steven_M05:51
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dx11101hi05:53
sanityxOk seriously how do I choose a theme.05:53
Steven_MDr_willis: got to go to dinner now, see ya05:53
Dr_willisUTF-8 UNI FIXED 16           seem to be the defaults Steven_M05:53
Steven_Mta05:54
Dr_willissanityx,  theres the theme/appearance tools  - i add the  'settings' kde panel applet to get to the items easier05:54
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sanityxDr_willis, all I see is look and feel under system settings, and its not there. I'll check the applet though thanks05:54
arunkaleHey people05:54
Skreech2jarn: It's what is playing in your media player05:54
bonbonthejonhi arunkale05:55
jarnSkreech2: I know. I want to change what data it displays.05:55
Skreech2Ah05:55
sanityxah i see it now thanks05:55
Skreech2Like in Kopete?05:55
jarnYep.05:55
arunkaleI just got a new PC (AMD 64), with an nVidia graphics card -- which package should I download to install it?05:55
sanityxDr_willis, I don't see the default Kubuntu theme listed in it. Weird.05:56
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arunkaleand are there any reported bugs with AMD64 PCs05:56
jarnSkreech2: Do you know how to do that?05:57
Dr_willissanityx,  in the kde theme manager?05:57
sanityxDr_willis, yes.05:57
Skreech2jarn: Not sure check inside of Command List in Configure ?05:57
sanityxI see the typical KDE themes, but not the Kubuntu theme05:57
Dr_willissanityx,  hmm  I thought kubuntu defaulted to 'plastik'05:58
Dr_willisI always set to plastik anyway05:58
jarnSkreech2: It does "/exec media"05:58
Dr_willisi got about 12 themes in there.05:58
sanityxDoesn't look like plastk to me05:58
Dr_willisI like pkastik. :)05:58
sanityxI used to like it05:58
Skreech2jarn: Nope don't think I ever played with that. I'd have to relook at it05:59
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arunkalebtw, what's the difference between a DVD iso and a CD iso? Does the DVD have anything extra?05:59
Dr_willisdvds are normally in UDF filesystem isent they?06:00
jarnSkreech2: Okay.06:00
jarnSkreech2: Thanks anyway.06:00
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arunkaleAre there any reported problems with running Kubuntu on AMD64 PCs? Or with nVidia graphics cards?06:01
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arunkaleI had Kubuntu installed on my earlier Intel PC, was using it for about  a year.. that had an on board video card06:01
Dr_willisarunkale,  youmean using the 64bit disrto on the amd64 cpus?06:01
sanityxHmm the default applications control comes up as a blank window06:01
Dr_willisarunkale,  i find using the 32bit disrtos much easier to do.06:02
arunkaleDr_willis: no, the Kubuntu Web site seems to have a separate download for the AMD64 CPUs.. I want the 32bit distro06:02
Dr_willisuse the other one then.. Not the amd64 then. :)06:02
Skreech2!amd606:02
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ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.06:02
sanityxYeah you definitely do not want to run the 64 bit distro. Its asking for trouble.06:02
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arunkaleI am downloading a torrent called : kubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.iso06:03
Skreech2!nvidia06:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:03
Dr_willistorrent? heh.06:03
arunkalethanks06:03
arunkalewhy?06:03
arunkale:)06:03
arunkaledont like torrents?06:03
Dr_willisevery time i download a disrto over a torrent.. its soooooo slow.06:03
Skreech2jarn: Sure. you can ask in #kde aswell :)06:03
Dr_willisftp servers are much faster06:03
jarnSkreech2: I did, noone has responded yet.06:03
Dr_willisunless you get real lucky06:03
Skreech2:-)06:03
Dr_williskubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.  - would be the 64bit distro.06:03
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arunkaledamn06:04
arunkaleso I should get the i386?06:04
Dr_willisyes...06:04
Dr_willisfor the 3rd time. :) heh heh06:04
sanityxdefinitely06:04
arunkaleHah thanks06:04
sanityxAMD64 is only useful if you have some specific need for it.06:04
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Dr_willislike a uber-haxor06:05
Dr_willis:)06:05
arunkaleI thought I was required to use that version on my AMD64 pc06:05
sanityxnope06:05
sanityxthats just to run in 64 bit mode06:05
arunkaleCool06:05
Dr_willisarunkale,  NOPE 100% not needed06:05
arunkaleThanks06:05
Dr_willissomeonme else inhere had the same misscomception .06:05
sanityxsomeday things will go fully 64 bit06:05
sanityxbut for now your life is easier if you stick to 3206:05
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arunkaleWill it install nVidia drivers by default? Or will I have to do it manually06:06
Dr_willis!nvidia06:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:06
arunkaleYeah, I saw that.. I'm just wondering if it installs an older open source version of the driver or something .. thanks, though06:06
Dr_willisthe open version is the 'nv' drivers..06:07
Dr_willisthe nvidia comercial drivers are the 'nvidia' ones06:07
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arunkaleah, thanks06:07
arunkaleAnd one more thing, I would like to install Beryl06:07
Dr_willisid avoude beryl for the time beeing.06:07
arunkaleHow so?06:08
Dr_willisits just a hassle.. :)06:08
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Dr_willisif you MUST play with the eye candy.. find a live cd with it.. and show it off.06:08
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arunkaleHehe06:09
arunkaleAlso, right now, I am running Windows XP, I have 4 logical hard drives06:09
Skreech2!beryl06:09
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:09
arunkaleI want to use one of them for Kubuntu06:09
arunkale(dual boot)06:09
Skreech2arunkale: If I may make a suggestion :)06:10
arunkaleHow do I install Kubuntu in the 4th logical hard drive without reinstalling windows first06:10
arunkaleSkreech2: sure06:10
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Skreech2For now just have the two partitions (/ and swap) but look into having a partition for /home06:10
Dr_willisarunkale,  clean off the data ya want on that drive.. delete the 4partition. so its unallocated. and let the install partiton it.06:10
arunkaleOk, so I should just install it in the unformatted space?06:11
Dr_willisnot unformated.. 'unallocated'06:11
arunkaleWhat's the difference06:11
Dr_willis you can have C: thats unformated.. but   unallocated = not even in a partition.06:12
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arunkaleYeah, so I'll delete the partition, that's what I meant.. it'll just be empty space06:12
sep1319i could be wrong, but you don't necessarily need to delete it, just leave it empty and formatted as ext3 or what you want, and then manually pick it as your / in the installer06:12
arunkaleSorry if I didn't use the correct term, that's what i meant06:12
Dr_willisunallocated space. :)06:12
arunkalecool06:12
arunkaleI dont have anything in that drive anyway, I have left it empty for Linux06:12
sep1319good deal.06:13
arunkale40GB should be more than enough I guess06:13
Dr_willisthat 'partition' :)06:13
sep1319heh yeah06:13
arunkaleyeah, that partition06:13
Dr_williswindows teaches SUCH bad habbits06:13
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arunkaleYup, I agree06:13
sep1319me too06:13
arunkaleNP: Brain Damage / Pink Floyd06:13
arunkaleI saw Roger Waters live last month06:13
Dr_willisBrain Dead windows lemming zombies.06:14
Dr_willis:)06:14
sep1319not necessarily, most just don't bother to know how to use their comps at all.06:14
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Dr_willislets just all start calling directories 'folders' !! :)06:14
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arunkaleI've learnt a lot about computers since I started using Kubuntu06:15
arunkaleHardware, etc06:15
arunkaleHow do I burn a bootable DVD06:16
sep1319arunkale: http://tinyurl.com/pj3te is how i put kubuntu on my laptop, basically. it was pretty apinless.06:16
sep1319painless*06:17
arunkalethanks sep06:17
sep1319np06:17
arunkaleWhen I was using it before06:17
arunkaleI got the fonts to render like OS X06:17
arunkaleArial has never looked to good06:17
arunkaleAnd I don't even need to use a Mac, hah06:17
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sep1319hehe. its amazing that maceys can get as ignorant as windows users06:18
arunkalelooked so* good06:19
ChtilandId' like to compile kxdocker but when i try to install libqt3-mt-dev it doesn't work... any suggestion ?06:19
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arunkaleHey, my Logitech USB mouse will work with Kubuntu, right?06:19
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sep1319it should, yeah06:20
bonbonthejonarunkale: most likely, if it has extra buttons it might take some work to get them to work06:20
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arunkalenah, just the regular 306:20
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sep1319it should work without a problem06:20
sep1319(we hope)06:20
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Allanholaaa06:20
Allanalguien que me pueda ayudar?06:20
arunkaleand in the future, if I get an external hard drive, should I look for any specific ones?06:21
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Allanalguien que hable espanil06:21
Allanespaniol06:21
Allan:/06:21
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arunkalesep1319: nice article, btw06:22
sep1319thnx06:22
rivernet6is anyone in this room06:22
sep1319all i did was google ubuntu dualboot06:22
stdin!es | Alllan06:23
ubotuAlllan: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:23
arunkalesep1319: what should I set as the size of my swap06:23
Alllanstdin,06:23
Alllangracias06:23
stdin:)06:23
Dr_willisrivernet6,  No >:)06:23
Alllan=*06:23
sep1319arunkale: double the size of your RAM, like it says06:23
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Alllanhahahaha06:23
Dr_willisswap of 2x ram size - is a bit silly these days06:23
Dr_willisif i have 4gb ram  - i dont need 8gb of swap06:24
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arunkaleI was using 512MB RAM earlier, and I had set the swap to 512MB06:24
sep1319that would work too06:24
arunkaleI have 1GB RAM now06:24
Dr_willisif i had 512mb ram - id set 1 or 2 gb swap06:24
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igorjrhi06:24
Dr_willisfor my needs i find 512mb swap at a minimum. :) and i rarely need more on most of my machines06:25
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igorjri have a question06:25
Dr_willisyou could always add a swap file later if needed.06:25
sep1319thnx for the backup, Doc.06:25
igorjrwhen i run "kdesu konqueror" the passwort-window opens06:25
igorjri type the password in but then nothing further happens06:25
Dr_willisrunning konqueror as root.. is not awlasya a good idea.06:25
Dr_willisnot 'always' :)06:26
Dr_williswhat are you doing that needs root and konwueror?06:26
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Dr_willis:)06:26
Dr_willisthat he then closes when done06:26
igorjri want to set folder-persmissions06:26
igorjro_006:26
cytHi all, does the Kubuntu Herd5 released with the standard KDE menu or Kickoff menu from SuSE?06:26
Dr_willisigorjr,  you can eaially do that from the shell.06:27
darksider415Standard KDE, AFAIK.06:27
igorjri'm quite new to this06:27
Dr_willisI hate that kickoff menu. :)06:27
igorjrthe manual told me to do so06:27
Chtiland512 RAM and 1Gb SWAP ?06:27
Dr_willisigorjr, which manual?06:27
cytDr_willis: haha, why?06:27
igorjrthe kubuntu manual ;)06:27
Jucatocyt: no kickoff menu *from SUSE*06:27
Jucatoby that itself, you know that it's a SUSE only thing/default06:28
stdincyt: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu-devel please, and it's the standard menu06:28
sep1319Chtland: that's what i have, and it's served me well.06:28
ChtilandI got 1 Gb RAM and my swap is set to 1 Gb too, and in fact only 100Mb is used in my swap (and most of the time 0)06:28
arunkaleHey, Jucato06:28
igorjrDr_willis: can you tell me, how i do it via shell?06:28
arunkalelong time06:28
sep1319yeah06:28
igorjrDr_willis: but i'm a nooby ;)06:28
Dr_willisigorjr,  'sudo chmod +whateveriptions   /path/to/directory06:28
Jucatohi arunkale! I was just here 12 hours ago :P06:28
cytstdin: ok :)06:28
arunkaleNo, I'm in the room after a long time06:28
Jucatoarunkale: and I saw you as well :D06:28
arunkaleReally? That's weird06:28
Jucatostrange..06:29
Jucatoan nvm.. some other person lol06:29
arunkaleI've come here after a couple months06:29
arunkaleI got a new PC06:29
igorjrdr_willis: i didn't quite get this ;)06:29
Jucatokool kool :)06:29
JucatoDr_willis: try to be a bit noob-friendly :P06:29
arunkaleI am looking to buy a USB external hard drive/memory stick soon.. should I keep anything in mind when I buy it?06:30
igorjranyhow06:30
Dr_willis kdesu konqueror          works for me.. odd06:30
igorjryeah06:30
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igorjris strange for me too :(06:30
Dr_willisyou are using your users password?06:30
Dr_williscaps lock not on...06:30
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igorjri'll try it again a several times06:31
Dr_willistry kdesu konsole  :)06:31
carutsuscuse me anyone knows if BOINC is on the kubuntu repostories?06:31
JucatoDr_willis: kdesu konsole? lol06:31
Dr_willis!info boinc06:31
ubotuPackage boinc does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:31
weswh-will it be feasible to upgrade from edgey to fiesty? or will it probably be a reinstall situation?06:31
Dr_willis!find boinc06:31
ubotuFound: boinc-app-seti, boinc-client, boinc-dev, boinc-manager, kboincspy (and 1 others)06:31
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darksider415This is weird.. I know my mobile is set to mount itself as a USB Mass Storage Device, and I know it worked a few minutes ago, and now it isn't.. No reboots, nothing...06:31
igorjrconsole works with kdesu06:31
Jucatoboinc-client06:31
igorjrkonqueror still not working06:32
igorjro_006:32
Dr_willisigorjr,  NOW try running 'konqueror' from that root-konsole.06:32
darksider415weswh-: It was a pretty easy upgrade on my notebook... Just change the name of the repositories and it worked..06:32
igorjri c06:32
weswh-neat...06:32
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JucatoO.o06:32
Dr_willisI rember now, why i always install 'mc' :)06:32
igorjrX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:33
Jucatoigorjr: doesn't Alt+F2, "kdesu konqueror" wokr?06:33
slyfoxWhy is it then when I set Remember password in Kmail and store password in Kwallet and always allow access for Kmail to Kwallet, it keeps on asking me for the password when I want send an email.06:33
Jucatowork*06:33
carutsuthank you!06:33
Chtilandnobody to tell me how to compile kxdocker uneder kubuntu ?06:33
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igorjrjucato: i type in the password, then nothing further happens06:33
Master_Kalewill rdesktop work with VMWare Player?06:33
Dr_willisChtiland,  last we messed with kxdocker in this channel  few weeks ago.. it was a rather.. welll badly written program. ;)06:33
Dr_willisChtiland,  most of us coudlent even get it to compile right06:33
Jucatoigorjr: how about "kdesu konqueror" in **a normal** Konsole?06:34
darksider415Chitland: I used Kooldock on my notebook, which has pre-compiled binaries for Ubuntu/Debian.06:34
arunkalewhat's the difference between downloading a DVD iso and CD iso? Does the DVD have anything extra06:34
igorjrX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:34
Dr_willisarunkale,   i wouldent bother with the dvd06:34
igorjrthis is the consoloe message06:34
Jucatoigorjr: aside from those errors?06:34
Jucatoigorjr: does it launch at all?06:34
Dr_willisigorjr,  ignroe those BadDevice warnings.. :)06:34
arunkalealright, thanks06:34
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stdinarunkale: the DVD just has more packages on the disk, the install is the same06:34
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igorjrkonqueror launches normal06:35
arunkalewhich packages06:35
igorjrbut not with kdesu06:35
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m_i need the librarie g++ how do i get it?06:35
igorjror kdesu konsole and then konqueror06:35
Jucatoarunkale: DVD has more packages and more install options, both as live DVD and command line based installer06:35
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Jucatoigorjr: no.. kdesu konqueror in a plain Konsole. after the device errors, konqueror launches, right?06:35
IgorSobreirahey....anybody can give me a good sources.list....i can get many things in my apt06:35
Dr_willis!easysource06:36
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:36
igorjrkdsu konqueror in normal console gets me the same error message06:36
Jucatoigorjr: if yes, that Konqueror is already running as root06:36
igorjrno, it doesn't launch at all06:36
igorjrthat's my problem ;)06:36
arunkaleWhen I was using Kubuntu on my old PC, the package manager would behave in the same way.. I sometimes had to run it twice and enter the password and then it showed up06:36
Jucatoigorjr: **Ignore the BadDevice error message**06:36
Dr_willisHmm..06:36
Jucato!pastebin | igorjr06:36
ubotuigorjr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:36
stdinarunkale: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.list us a list of files on the disk, look under /pool for the packages06:37
Jucatoigorjr: can you pastebin all the error messages that appear when you type "kdesu konqueror" in *a normal* konsole?06:37
Dr_willis!info sux06:37
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB06:37
arunkalestdin: thanks06:37
igorjrk, one moment06:37
arunkaleOne more thing, how do I share my Thunderbird between my Windows and Linux partitions06:38
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igorjrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8494/06:38
igorjrhere you go06:38
Jucatoigorjr: that's it? nothing else follows? and no window opens?06:39
igorjrnothing06:39
weswh-i need to upgrade my version of ktorrent to 2.1 - how do i go about doing that? i'm not used to upgrading to versions outside of the release06:39
igorjri'm quite sure about this06:39
Jucatojok really weird....06:39
igorjrhmm, i try to shut the whole session down and start with a new one06:40
Jucatoweswh-: you will either have to compile, or install the .deb package for it. 2.1 isn't available on Edgy through the repositories..06:40
IgorSobreiraanybody could give me a good sources.list??06:41
arunkaleShould I get Beryl or not?06:41
weswh-jucato: which of those is likely easier? :)06:41
Dr_willissome new gotta have features in ktorrent 2.1 ?06:41
weswh-Dr_willis: well, the torrent site i use is saying it has to be done. don't know why06:41
Jucatoweswh-: the .deb... but just be careful...06:41
Dr_willisweswh-,  oh? its rejecting the older client eh?06:41
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bioflamehey all06:42
weswh-Dr_willis: not yet, i just got a message that the tracker is reporting an outdated client. on their 'allowed' list ktorrent says 2.1 or greater now06:42
bioflamei need to set my refresh rate06:42
bioflamein xorg.conf06:42
weswh-so if i don't upgrade eventually i'll probably be banned. heh06:42
bioflamewhat line do i add06:42
Dr_willisweswh-,  use 'wine utorrent.exe' :)06:42
igorjrnow it works06:42
igorjri restarted the session06:42
Jucatoigorjr: kool06:43
danielcheshi, i need help installing the java plugin for firefox, its just not working for me06:43
weswh-i actually really like ktorrent.06:43
igorjri used utorrent under windows06:44
igorjran i got some files left to download06:44
igorjrany chance to do it with kubuntu?06:44
weswh-sure..06:45
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weswh-there's always that chance. heh06:45
Dr_willis  use 'wine utorrent.exe' :)06:45
Dr_willisof coruse ya got to have the downloade files set in the right places.06:45
Dr_willisand the .torrent files06:45
danielchesi ahve installed sun-java5-plugin, and that installed itself, but firefox still says no java plugin06:45
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danielchesalso, the real player plugin is not working for me06:46
igorjri heard, utorrent doesnt connect under wine06:46
weswh-Jucato: what do i need to be careful of with this .deb?06:46
ChtilandThaniks Dr_willis for kxdocker, is there better alternative ?06:46
weswh-it says it's specifically for edgy06:46
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Jucatoweswh-: it's not from the Ubuntu repositories. so it's not something Ubuntu can guarantee you :)06:47
weswh-understood - but shouldn't be any more concerned with it than compiling from source right06:48
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danielchesany help?06:49
Jucatobut it's ok to install that .deb06:49
danielchesmy firefox has also decided to uninstall the dictionary plugin06:49
danielchessince it deemed it incomplatible with ff206:49
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arunkaledoes any one know why the icon for firefox 2 has jagged edges06:50
danielches?06:50
arunkalethe icon's outline is not smooth for me06:51
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ubuntu!wireless06:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:51
weswh-hmm, a little confused. i execute this .deb and it launches Ark, and then shows me 3 files inside of it, and the only options i really see are "extract"06:52
weswh-do i have to extract something first and then install? i assumed it would be a ready to go script or something06:52
Jucatoweswh-: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package06:52
danielcheswith ff icon, i had that at first06:52
danielchesthen i changed the icon file06:52
danielchesto one on the system instead of the one whihc comes int he ff folder06:52
danielchesand it became clearer06:53
arunkalecool06:53
danielchesi'm going to donwload ff again06:53
arunkaleAlso, does anyone know how to get openoffice to use the default font rendering rather than it's own font rendering?06:53
danielchesmine is just stuffed :(06:53
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arunkale#openoffice06:54
arunkalesorry06:54
darksider415Does anyone know how to get a TI SD card reader to work under either Edgy or Feisty?06:54
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arunkale?06:57
Dr_willisdarksider415,  build in card readers in a laptop?06:58
darksider415Dr_willis: Yes.06:58
ubuntu!broadcom06:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:58
Dr_willisdarksider415,  some laptops  have thost things with very little if any support in linux for them sadly.06:58
Dr_willisdarksider415,  i found it eaier to get a usb reader  for my media06:58
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sanityxAnybody know a good graphical tool for wifi that supports WPA07:00
Dr_willis!find wifi07:01
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ubotuFound: wifi-radar, kwifimanager07:01
sanityxwifi-radar is no good07:01
weswh-so upgrading to fiesty is basically as easy as changing your repos, and then having it update all of your software to the newest release ver?07:01
sanityxmaybe kwifi will work07:01
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weswh-or, specifying software to upgrade..07:01
darksider415Dr_willis: I know there's kernel support in 2.6.17+ for mine, based on the lspci information, commentary from Fedora users and the changelog. dmesg shows that I'm inserting a card, and that it's an SD card. Even the little light showing a card is being accessed will blink for a moment, but nothing is mounting.07:02
Dr_willisdarksider415,  check dmesg output. and try mounting it manually?07:02
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ubuntu!upgrade07:03
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:03
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sanityxNeither of them handle WPA07:04
sanityxthe first one tries to but doesn't really07:04
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me2winget the wpa package07:04
sanityxme2win, Nono I have wpa working07:05
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sanityxBut every time I want to connect to a new wpa network i have to drop down to the terminal07:05
sanityxI was hoping for a graphical tool that just worked.07:05
sanityxWEP works fine with the graphical tool07:05
me2winknetworkmanager has it07:05
sanityxill try it thanks07:06
nixternalsanityx: I connect between WEP/WPA/WPA2 networks w/o dropping to the CLI using KNetworkManager07:06
carutsuhow do i compile from source?07:06
nixternalit is the cat's meow in Feisty07:06
carutsui mean i want KNetwoekManager07:06
nixternalcarutsu: use Adept to install it07:07
me2winsudo apt-get install knetworkmanager07:07
nixternalthank the wonderful people over at OpenSUSE for KNetworkManager :)07:07
me2winor use adept :P07:07
carutsuadept just like any other?07:07
nixternalman the KDE work they churn out rocks!07:07
nixternalyes07:08
carutsunictermal: thak you07:08
me2winnixternal: agreed, suse is my second favorite distro07:08
carutsunixtermal: thak you07:08
nixternaldistro wise I can't stand RPM, but ya, OpenSUSE is good07:08
Dr_willis!flash07:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:08
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash07:08
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nixternalactually, the top 50 distros, except for Gentoo :), is good07:08
me2wingentoo is for ricers07:08
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me2winthe website, not a racial slur :P07:09
carutsunixternal: KNetworkManager is better than Wireless Assistant, right?07:09
nixternalcarutsu: way better07:09
sanityxnixternal, Interesting, it doesn't detect any networks at all on my computer.07:09
me2wincarutsu: yeah knetwork manager rocks07:09
sanityxyet iwconfig scanning does07:09
sanityxor iwlist rather07:09
nixternalsanityx: you may need to config /etc/network/interfaces possibly07:09
sanityxeh.07:10
carutsuthank you07:10
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sanityxi have wifi working. im using it right now. just manually.07:10
me2winyakuake FTW07:10
nixternalme2win: ditto :)07:10
me2winwhen i DO need the CLI, yakuake is a life saver07:10
sanityxwhats yakuake07:11
nixternalI am constantly in Yakuake, IRSSI is running there as well as Emacs, and all of my svn repos07:11
nixternalsanityx: think of it as a drop down Konsole07:11
me2winnixternal: yeah i like having irssi running for it also07:11
sanityxook07:11
sanityxlike screen?07:11
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nixternalterminal, screen is a command07:11
me2winsanityx: imagine that everytime you hit F12, a konsole drops down from the sy for you to use, and when you hit F12 again, it goes away07:12
me2winsky*07:12
sanityxnice07:12
sanityxwait this runs in kde?07:12
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me2winyep07:12
sanityxI must have it.07:12
me2winsudo apt-get install yakuake07:12
sanityxim already convinced07:12
sanityxthats the greatest thing ever.07:12
nixternalhehe07:12
me2wini added mine to startup and it is beautiful07:12
arunkaleDoes anyone here use Kontact?07:12
me2winalways there, i dont even think of it as a seperate proram07:12
nixternalarunkale: I live by kontact :)07:13
nixternalwhat's up?07:13
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nileshi07:13
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me2winniles: 'allo07:13
nixternalhaha07:13
arunkalenixternal: no, i'm just wondering.. it's such an awesome program.. it needs to get a lot more publicity07:13
nileshow can i confirm my nvidia drivers are installed07:13
Dr_willisdang it - cant get flash working07:13
me2winfglrxinfo07:13
me2winerr07:13
nixternalarunkale: it needs *A LOT* more bug fixes. IMAP users still cuss Kontact07:13
sanityxI used to have this network packet sniffer that would show images being viewed on the network, any idea what that might be?07:14
Dr_willis!severas07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about severas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
Dr_willis!flash07:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:14
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash07:14
nixternalniles: glxinfo |grep render07:14
nixternalniles: run that at the command line07:14
Dr_willis!backports07:14
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports07:14
me2winniles: there ya go, what he said07:14
arunkalenixternal: hmm..07:14
arunkalenixternal: but it just seems like so awesome07:14
arunkaleit has everthing07:14
sanityxThe flash in the repos says its version 7 or something. is that just ubuntu's internal version?07:14
arunkaleand a nice interface07:14
nixternalarunkale: I use POP3 with it and it is awesome, no problems from me07:14
nixternalarunkale: yes, way better than Outlook I think07:15
arunkalenixternal: way better than thunderbird, i am thinking07:15
nixternalarunkale: and they are currently working on improving it, not only for KDE407:15
arunkalenixternal: at least interface-wise07:15
nilesnixternal: http://rafb.net/p/uy7aJ650.html07:15
nixternalniles: can you paste your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf there as well?07:16
nilesi belive the drivers are installed.  i went according to the kubuntu site.  but i dont know how to configure xorg conf to tell it which bus my nvidia card is on?07:16
fyrmedicShould07:16
nixternaloh07:16
nixternalniles: nvidia-xconfig07:16
nixternalI think that is it07:16
nilesnixternal:  well i coppied it from knoppix.  not the greatest thing.  i should roll back to the backup07:16
nilesoh07:16
nixternalnvidia- then hit tab a couple of times07:16
nilesoh ok07:16
nixternalI don't have my nvidia box running to check07:16
userundme2win: great little prog, never heard of it.  thanks07:16
arunkalenixternal: would you be able to enlighten me on how I can share my email between my windows and kubuntu partitions?07:16
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nixternalarunkale: what are you using for windows?07:17
me2winuserund: yakuake? np, i think everyone should use it, it r0x :D07:17
nixternalOutlook doesn't do mbox07:17
nilesnixternal: should i roll back to the org.conf back up first?  since the current one is coppied from knoppix?07:17
arunkalenixternal: thunderbird07:17
nilesot will that command fix it07:17
slyfox!kompile07:17
ubotukompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 904 kB07:17
fyrmedic Should I use the 64 bit kernel with AMD 64x2?07:17
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nixternalniles: yes07:17
userundme2win: yeah, and using alt+space makes it so accessible07:17
margishello07:17
nixternalhello margis07:17
nilesnixternal: yes as in roll back,  or yes,  it will autoconfigure.  sorry.07:18
arunkalefyrmedic: what's up, i just got a PC with the same config07:18
Dr_willisfyrmedic,  id avoide the 64bit disrtos.. stick with 32bit. less hassle07:18
arunkalefyrmedic: people suggested i use the i386 version07:18
nixternalniles: give the nvidia thing a whirl, if it doesn't work, then rollback07:18
Jucato!compile | slyfox07:18
ubotuslyfox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:18
margisi have  kubuntu and xp on my system.....i want to install vista....can i just make a partition and install? any conflict?07:18
nilesthanx pal07:18
me2winuserund: hehe yeah, i like F12 cuz i run this on a laptop, but i use ctrl+space on my desktop07:18
me2winmargis: depends on the version of vista07:19
me2winmargis: if you are running business or ultimate, you might have to make a seperate partition for vista cuz of bitlocking07:19
nilesnixternal: im assuming i'll have to restart correct?07:19
fyrmedicarunkale;I just got a notebook and am having a lot of problems. Most of them come from my attempts at getting the sound drivers to work but i wonder if using the other kernel would help07:19
nilesreboot07:19
sanityxthe terminal should open when you press ~ :-P07:19
nixternalniles: yes07:19
nilesthanx07:19
slyfoxmargis: Good choice, after you will install Vista, you will RUN to Linux :-)07:19
margisi talk about ultimate07:19
sanityxOk what is the deal with KDE randomly not actually opening the program you want, just bouncing the icon for a few seconds07:20
margisslyfox i need  both of  them  ....07:20
slyfoxmargis: need? Why?07:20
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slyfoxsanityx: good question, I think maybe becsue they are still being used by other processes?07:20
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margisslyfox: i need to paly games07:21
sanityxslyfox, I don't think so.07:21
margisi love kubuntu but....07:21
sanityxLike gaim will just randomly not open07:21
sanityxor openoffice07:21
sanityxor all kinds of stuff07:21
slyfoxmargis: this sucks :-) I stopped playing games after I played Deus Ex 2, after that game I lost interest in all other games.07:22
slyfoxsanityx: good question, I want to know too07:22
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slyfoxJucato: can you help with this one please?07:22
margisslyfox  find me an emulator to play all windows  games and then i will  use only kubuntu07:22
Jucatoslyfox: what?07:22
slyfoxmargis: cadega?07:22
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sanityxmargis, Cedega.07:23
margisslyfox  u like it  or not   i like to play games07:23
nilesnixternal: hey thanx pal it works and i have direct rendering07:23
slyfoxJucato: "what is the deal with KDE randomly not actually opening the program you want, just bouncing the icon for a few seconds"07:23
margiscedega?07:23
sanityxCedega works just fine for tons of games07:23
willyalguien me ayuda con la maquina virtual de java07:23
margisbetter than wine?07:23
willyporfavor07:23
nileswith direct rendering, i should be able to play games and use glx right?07:23
darksider415margis: Well, I stick to MUDs, so I'd probably get by on Linus's original build of Linux, back in '91...07:23
userund!es07:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:23
sanityxmargis, Its a version of wine, specifically designed to play games.07:23
carutsu_willy si hablas espanol aqui te van a gritar07:23
carutsu_ves07:23
sanityxmargis, It costs money.07:23
margisno thanks07:23
sanityxlol its only like $1507:23
nilesor in otherwords, direct rendering is like utilizing my 3D acceleration07:23
nilesright07:23
sanityxa lot cheaper than a copy of windows.07:23
nixternalniles: rock on!07:23
cpk1wine works just fine for tons of games07:23
cpk1cedega is subscription based07:24
Master_Kalehas anyone had success at using rdesktop with VMWare player?07:24
sanityxcpk1, Yeah but you often have to tweak it or change settings07:24
willy#kubuntu-es07:24
sanityxcpk1, Cedega works a lot better07:24
margisso much programming  on linux  and   none nice emulator  yet??????07:24
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Master_Kale!rdesktop07:24
uboturdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB07:24
me2winWoW FTW07:24
sanityxmargis, Cedega is a GREAT emulator.07:24
yuriy!fixres07:24
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:24
cpk1my room mate has cedega and I have wine, we both play the same games07:24
Jucatoslyfox: not sure. only happens when to me randomly when I start firefox07:24
margisyes   but i must  pay   right?07:24
cpk1and cedega and wine arent emulators =)07:24
sanityxcpk1, Yeah yeah :-P07:24
sanityxmargis, You could pirate it I guess07:25
sanityxbut its so cheap07:25
darksider415margis: I'd rather use Cedega, which does work for games, rather well, instead of paying for what seems to be a way overpriced, bloated OS that drags the hardware down. Just my $0.02...07:25
cpk1margis: what games do you want to play?07:25
sanityxMuch cheaper than a copy of windows XP07:25
margiscan it  play lineage?07:25
sanityxmargis, I don't know.07:25
slyfoxJucato: waht was it that you use firefox again for ?07:25
userundcheck transgaming db07:25
cpk1crossover might actually be better than cedega soon07:25
margiscan u give me a link with  supported games of cedega?07:25
userundmargis: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/07:25
Jucatoslyfox: for the 1% of sites that I can't use Konqueror for... which is getting less and less07:26
Jucatoslyfox: and for testing pages07:26
sanityxmargis, It can play lineage and lineage 207:26
sanityxhttp://transgaming.org/gamesdb/07:26
margis ooo niceeeeee07:26
carutsu_i love Firefox, but knoqueror is konquering my, xD07:27
carutsu_i mean its a really good KDE experience07:27
sanityxKonquerer blows as a web browser.07:27
margisok  nice emulator07:27
margishow i can find  it?07:27
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margistorrent?07:28
sanityxmargis, That's up to you. I'm not going to help you pirate it.07:28
margisok07:28
slyfoxJucato: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/135-Lets-make-some-baskets...html07:28
userundkonqueror is unbearably slow for me when loading pages.  Disabling ipv6 doesn't help.  unfortunate but I prefer Firefox anyway.07:28
carutsu_and as a file manager i have no complains, but might take some ideas from crusader(?)07:28
darksider415sanityx: What is wrong with Konqueror as a browser?07:28
sanityxdarksider415, Its ajax support sucks?07:28
sanityxdarksider415, go to gmail.com07:28
sanityxsee what happens when you log in07:28
carutsu_!crusader07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crusader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
sanityxits ugly?07:29
darksider415!krusader07:29
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB07:29
userundsanityx: google blocks konqueror as far as I know.  KHTML is one of the best rendering engines out there07:29
carutsu_xD07:29
sanityxuserund, could be.07:29
carutsu_blocks?!07:29
carutsu_well in the web apps you mean?07:29
userundgmail that is.07:29
sanityxi also just find it renders pages in an ugly way07:29
Jucatouserund: for Gmail ang Google Calendar, use Firefox 1.5.0.4 or Safari browser identificaton07:29
sanityxfonts look weird compared to firefox07:30
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carutsu_that's what i though... well bad for them konqueror is the most standar compilant browser07:30
userundJucato: I'm not complaining about it07:30
Jucatouserund: just in case :)07:30
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darksider415sanityx: Personally, I use Konqueror daily. And I use KMail to handle my Gmail...07:30
userundI do like that you can send different UAs to different sites though, great feature (think I saw that in options...)07:30
sanityxYuck07:31
sanityxI use thunderbird07:31
cpk1I do the same as darksider415 =)07:31
cpk1but kontact has rss feeds in it too!07:31
sanityxAnd I'm not going to bother with gmail without the web interface07:31
Jucatoisn't freedom great? :D07:31
sanityxJucato, Definitely.07:31
sanityxThe web interface is the only thing I like about gmail07:31
margisok i found  cedega07:32
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cpk1I'm too lazy to have to open a browser to check my mail =P07:32
margisi need to reinstall all my games  that  i have installed in my xp partition or  just find the exe file?07:32
JucatoI let my mail and news come to me...07:32
sanityxmargis, Reinstall.07:33
arunkaleI find web e-mail useful, because I can easily check my e-mails when I am on another computer07:33
sanityxmargis, You might be able to copy them over.07:33
cpk1margis: you dont need to reinstall, just copy over the whole game directory07:33
Jucatopresuming the games will run on Wine07:33
sanityxcpk1, that depends on the game.07:33
margisnice07:33
sanityxcpk1, if a game uses the registry too much07:33
Jucatoarunkale: that's the only other use I have for the web interface :)07:33
arunkalehaha07:33
Jucatowhich is also why I don't delete mails there :)07:33
margisi just  saw that it can paly pes607:33
cpk1afaik it always works and is the best way to install with wine07:34
margisi think that  i will  not  install vista07:34
nilesis apt-cache search <name>  // not a valid command ?07:34
userundyes07:34
nilesE: Invalid operation seach07:34
thoreauputicniles: spelling07:34
userund"seach" not "search"07:34
Jucatoniles: don't include the <  and >07:34
Jucatoah "search"07:34
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Jucatonot "seach"07:34
thoreauputicright :)07:34
nilesi said search07:34
Jucato<niles> E: Invalid operation seach07:35
nilesoh i guess not07:35
userundha07:35
nilesmy bad07:35
thoreauputicniles: linux has a problem parsing typos ;-)07:35
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Jucatoniles, thoreauputic: but is very good at tab completion :) apt-ca[Tab]  se[Tab]  :)07:36
nilesit's cool07:36
userundcan you tab complete operators?07:36
nilesdoes Kubuntu come with win32 codecs and libdvdcss ?07:36
cpk1no07:36
userundniles: no07:36
Jucatoniles: no :)07:36
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Jucatoanyone up for a 4th confirmation on that? :D07:36
nilesi cant find them in apt07:36
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userundniles: sources.list?07:37
thoreauputic!codecs| niles07:37
ubotuniles: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs07:37
cpk1hehe07:37
nilesthanx guys07:37
darksider415!source-o-matic07:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:37
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danzi!sound07:37
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:37
Jucatoniles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs07:37
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Mena!PcLinuxOS07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pclinuxos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
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Mena!Mandriva07:40
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)07:40
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MenaWhat is good a bout mandriva07:40
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sanityxMena, its supposed to be really easy to use.07:40
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userundmmm, it's owned by a french company.07:40
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Menasanity, hmmm okay :)07:40
progekhello room, ive used ubuntu for a long time and finally decided to try kubuntu. Im trying to install my nvidia drivers and would like to know if Im on the right track. Would it be ok to apt-get nvidia-glx then run nvidia-xconfig?07:40
cpk1slackware uses a packaging system? O.o07:41
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Menauserund, ok07:41
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Jphenow!past07:41
Jphenow!paste07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:41
thoreauputic!away07:41
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines07:41
Mena!patsebin07:41
userundcpk1: there are lots of unofficial package management systems for slack, but nothing official, and there won't be07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patsebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
Mena!pastebin07:41
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userundlike slapt-get and swaret07:42
Mena!pastebin |jphenow07:42
ubotujphenow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:42
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fyrmedichow do I know for sure if both of my processors are being used?07:42
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draikWhat's a good scanner to get for Kubuntu 6.10?07:42
Menadraik, for viruses07:43
thoreauputicfyrmedic:  cat /proc/cpuinfo07:43
thoreauputicfyrmedic: and run top07:43
draikMena: Sorry, for images07:43
fyrmedicthanks07:43
stdinfyrmedic: or kinfocenter07:43
Menadraik, u had alreadu in your graphic tools in kmenu07:43
Menaalready*07:44
darksider415draik: I've got two HP scanners that work pretty well. In my case, my personal favorite is the HP Scanjet 3900, but the drivers are still pretty buggy.07:44
danziI'm restarting my sound and it's running in a loop07:44
draikMena: Huh?07:44
danziIs it safe to stop it starting?07:44
Menaheheh never mind07:44
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draikdarksider415: I have a Canon CanoScan D646U07:44
Jphenowokay guys so i'm trying to get nvidia-glx, adept stops me from this along with apt-get07:45
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stdin!away Compleja07:45
cpk1adept and apt-get use the same backend07:45
Jphenowhere's my output from the apt-get anyone got any ideas for a solution?07:45
stdin!away | Compleja07:45
draikdarksider415: Sadly enough, not supported, much less recognized07:45
ubotuaway: A terminal locking program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB07:45
ubotuCompleja: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines07:45
Complejastdin,07:45
Jphenowi used apt-get in order to recieve output07:45
Complejaok07:45
Jphenowhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8501/07:45
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kingvHELP!07:45
kingvi got a good one!07:45
stdindraik: scanner hardware support pages is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners07:46
fyrmedicSo it list it as a AMD Turion 64 X2 but only lists one processor. Is that right?07:46
kingvi hae researched and nothing !07:46
kingvi hae researched and nothing !07:46
kingvlol :)07:46
cpk1Jphenow: looks like you might have mesa drivers?07:46
Jphenowso remove those??07:46
charlie5hi folks ... i cannot use adept because it says another process is using the packaging system ... i cannot find what that process is to kill it  ... (its not adept or apt anything )07:46
draikstdin: Right. I've been there. NOthing07:47
stdin!aptfix | charlie507:47
ubotucharlie5: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:47
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kingvi'm trying to isntall kubuntu.. but when it boots it i hit start and install and it goes through loading.. but then the monitor goes coocoo and shows me messed up colors07:47
charlie5stdin: thank you :)07:47
Jphenowcpk1 so remove the mesa drivers then do nvidia-glx??07:47
stdindraik: HP tends to be the best make to go with anyway07:47
kingvany suggestions.. i did all the reasearch.. but no luck07:47
draikstdin: I have never had an issue with HP07:48
draikstdin: my laptop is HP07:48
danzishould I have an alsa in /etc/modutils?07:48
draikmy printer is HP07:48
cpk1Jphenow: have you tried installing video drivers before?07:48
Jphenowseveral different occasions, usually resulting in 6 hours without an Xserver and alternation between live cd and terminal07:48
draikstdin: I was just trying to get a feel for any recommendations07:49
cpk1Jphenow: did you use apt to install them?07:49
darksider415draik: It depends on what it is. Desktops, I'll either go self-built, HP or Apple. Notebooks are either Toshiba, Lenovo, Sony or Apple, and either way, I'll run Linux on 'em.07:49
Jphenowi believe i removed all the ati stuff i had from before07:49
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draikdarksider415: HP it is07:50
draiknow...07:50
charlie5cheers, it worked fine07:50
cpk1... why did you have ati stuff; or rather why are you trying to get nvidia stuff?07:50
draikwhat model?07:50
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darksider415draik: IMHO, HP notebooks tend to be absolutely horrid, with few exceptions. Of course, I'm weird... Now, as far as printers go, they're great, and I love my Photosmart 7960.07:50
stdincharlie5: just type "!botsnack" to thank ubotu :)07:50
kingvi'm tried to install kubuntu, xbuntu, ubuntu..every time i start the install in normal or safe graphics my monitor shows me bunch of messed up color and i can't see anything..07:50
darksider415kingv: What graphics chipset?07:50
kingvnvidia 680007:51
cpk1Jphenow: are you sure you know what video card you have?07:51
Jphenowokay so couple weeks ago i had a crap geforce 4 but it's what was built in, switched to ATI for a bit but found out the hard way drivers available for those are horrible, NOW i bought new fx 520007:51
charlie5lol ... ok07:51
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charlie5!botsnack07:51
ubotuYum!07:51
charlie5:D07:51
stdin:)07:51
Compleja:o07:51
Jphenowyes i know what i have07:51
draikdarksider415: I have the HP Pavilion N5150. It used to be packaged with winme. Yeah, I know. Now it's Kubuntu. The printer is HP DeskJet 5850.07:51
draikThe desktop that I have is built by myself07:52
draikIt's only 2 years old07:52
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draikactually, 2 years and 4 months07:52
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me2win@chuck07:53
niles!sound07:54
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:54
Jphenowcdk1: any ideas as to what i did or what i can do?07:55
cpk1Jphenow: if you only tried installing drivers with apt then just purge all the packages07:56
Jphenowif u haven't already caught on im a n00b, wanna explain a bit more detailed?07:57
Jphenowplz n thanks?07:57
cpk1Jphenow: did you only use apt when you installed ati drivers?07:57
darksider415draik: I had an old Pavilion XE783 running Xubuntu that I gave to a friend, and my other desktop is a Pavilion a520 running Kubuntu Edgy. However, as far as notebooks go, I've got an Apple PowerBook G3 and a Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002, the 'Book running Edgy and the Satellite running Feisty. The printers are a HP Deskjet 930C and a Photosmart 7950, both shared.07:58
danzi!kwallet07:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:58
danziHow do I shut off kwallet07:58
nilesi selected my sound card in the mixer. but i still dont have sound07:58
Jphenowaha i used so many different methods it isn't even funny just because i couldn't get it workin, the ATI stuff is gone but i know i have bunch of mesa stuff here if that means anything07:58
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me2windanzi: uninstall, kwallet is the devil, sometimes i think that even if i disable it its still gonna bother me07:58
danzime2win: slightly less rastic way07:59
danziDrastic07:59
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xerrozI would like to install a minimal ubuntu base with full debugging symbols. Can anyone point me to a resource that may help? Or if anyone knows...08:00
cpk1err isnt mesa the ati drivers?08:00
xerrozmesa is software rendering08:00
xerrozwhich is not what we want.08:01
Jphenowaha so that should be removed?08:01
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xerrozI myself am currently unable to get DRI to work with my Radeon Mobility 9000 =(08:01
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sanityxWow ktorrent is awesome. I mean its ugly as hell, but it connects to seeds so fast08:01
Jphenowcpk1 you positive i can remove mesa stuff?08:01
kingvhas anybody gotten counterstrike: source working without any problems ?08:01
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cpk1mesa is for ati cards08:02
cpk1Jphenow: but, it looks like it shouldnt interfere08:02
cpk1Jphenow: oh wait its just for opengl08:03
Jphenowso that won't solve my problem?08:03
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userundkingv: it works fine for me except I have no sound.  I think that's because I have two sound cards and wine tries to use the one I'm not using.  haven't successfully corrected that yet.  And my FPS are about half what they should be.  But it installs and runs well08:03
Jphenowi know what opengl is but still not gettin ya08:03
kingvuserund: what vc do you have ?08:04
userundkingv: 6600gt08:04
kingvuserund: but why only half fps?08:04
userundkingv: I don't know.  On windows I would get 60-70, now I get about 25-3508:04
kingvuserund: i got a 6800 do you think that it will affect me ?08:05
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kingvprobably :)08:05
userundkingv: unknown.  I haven't messed with it that much so I haven't looked for ways to get better fps08:05
cpk1Jphenow: do this in konsole 'sudo aptitude purge xorg-driver-fglrx'08:06
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kingvuserund: yeah i guess.. if it runs well...than no need to mess around with it.. is there anywhere a "how to" that i could follow >08:06
userundkingv: yeah, a good one on the forums.  lemme get it08:06
nilesis my sound supposed to be working on a fresh installation of kubuntu ?08:06
xerrozshould08:06
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userundkingv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528&highlight=counter+strike+edgy08:06
nilesdamn08:06
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kingvuserund: thanks man!08:07
userundkingv: I used that and it was running in 20 minutes (plus download time)08:07
xerrozniles: have you assured your speakers are on and functional? :)08:07
nilesxerroz: yes08:07
danziHas anyone worked with an ATI SB450?08:07
xerrozniles: and your computer is on correct?08:07
danzi!forums08:07
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.08:07
kingvuserund: lol thats awesome.. but now i'm having issues with installing kubuntu.. so that might take a while :)08:07
nilesyes my computer is on08:07
nilesi only have one computer xerroz08:08
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xerrozniles, in a terminal, type alsamixer08:08
K`zanI've got a problem, had just windows on my old laptop and managed to get kubuntu installed and now grub says my windoz partition is outside of BIOS limits - it booted wincrap fine before grub got installed - any help MUCH appreciated!08:08
cpk1anyone ever tried playing a .aiff?08:08
xerrozK`zan: please paste your grub.conf in the pastebin08:08
nilesxerroz: Card: ESS Allegro PCI    is this correct for a sound blaster ?08:08
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nilesis Allegro the chipset ?08:09
K`zanxerroz: wilco, thanks08:09
kingvuserund: everytime i start the install cd, and hit install (normal or safe graphics) it loads and then my monitor goes crazy and shows me bunch of diff. color lines08:09
xerrozniles: i cannot confirm, but i believe it should say something more to the affect of 'creative labs' or 'sound blaster'08:09
userundkingv: that guide doesn't use the install cd, nor did I.  use the guide.08:09
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userundkingv: oh, you meant ubuntu CD.08:10
kingvuserund: yes :)08:10
kingvuserund: not sure what the deal is08:10
cpk1kingv: what video card?08:10
kingvuserund: i was told to get alternate cd08:10
nilesxerroz: how can i change this to creative labs?  the icon on the lower right hand of the desktop has creative labs selected08:10
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userundkingv: try passing an argument to the boot line... it's in the help menu when you load up.  I *think* it's vga=771 but get to the Help menu to verify08:10
xerrozniles: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix08:10
userundkingv: yes alternate is a good idea.08:10
kingvuserund: 680008:10
nileshmmm08:11
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nilesxerroz: perhalps it may be my integrated card08:11
nileswhich i cant turn off in the bios08:11
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K`zanxerroz: coming up on the laptop in just a few, probably as Anastasia...08:11
cpk1kingv: I have a 6600 and had the same problem, the thing is that safe graphics doesnt change it to vga like its supposed to, userund is right, if you pass the right arg you should be fine08:11
nilesxerroz: is i pull out my PCI sound blaster will kubuntu autoconfigure the sound for the integrated card ?08:12
xerrozK`zan: k08:12
kingvcpk1: so should i just use vga=771?08:12
xerrozniles, alsa should recognize it08:12
K`zanxerroz: old and slow, but it is getting to kde now :-)08:12
cpk1kingv: I cant remember; can you get to tty1?08:12
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nilesxerroz: ok thanx i'll try to work wiht the link you gave me.08:13
kingvcpk1: i'm in the menu right now ..i just started the boot cd08:13
xerrozniles: in a terminal type, alsamixer -c 0,08:13
userundkingv: yes, vga=771 is what I'd try putting in the boot line before you use the alternate08:13
xerrozwhat chipset does it report?08:13
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xerrozK`zan: :)08:13
kingvuserund: F6 and then add  vga=771 at the end?08:14
sanityxAny interesting things I can do with 3d acceleration other than use cedega and Xgl08:14
nilesxerroz: Chip: ESS Technology ESS198808:14
userundkingv: probably, whatever will let you enter boot options.  It's been a while since I saw the install menu08:14
nilesmust be the integrated one.08:14
Jphenowhow do u cut in a command line08:14
xerrozniles: escape out, type alsamixer -c 108:14
nilesNo mixer elems found08:14
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carutsu_how can i check hotmail from Kmail? i heard tare is a phyton script that downloads the mail, but i need to keep it on the server till i erase it from inbox08:14
xerrozniles: alsa is only finding the one card08:15
kingvuserund: lol ok... since i'm only 50% done with alternate cd downloading.. could i try this with the regular dvd ?08:15
userundkingv: yes08:15
xerrozniles, in alsamixer -c 0, on master and pcm, are the 00 at the bottom highlighted with a green background?08:15
Jphenowhow do you use cut in a terminal08:15
aricwhat driver should i use, if i have ATI x300 ?08:15
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xerrozaric: fglrx08:16
xerrozJphenow: you cannot cut, you can copy and paste however08:16
xerrozJphenow: right click, hit 'c' to copy; shift + insert to paste08:16
xerroz(in konsole that is)08:16
Jphenowcool thanks08:17
cpk1if you have a middle mouse button you can just highlight and then press the middle mouse button to paste08:17
thoreauputicxerroz: that's the hard way - just highlight, middle click to paste08:17
xerrozthat works...if you have the middle mouse button08:17
xerrozsome of us laptop users however, :)08:17
thoreauputicxerroz: you can use both buttons together to simulate it08:18
userundthree-button emulate for laptops :)08:18
nilesxerroz: master and pcm are green to red08:18
thoreauputicxerroz: most laptops have middle click keys - my Ibook does for instance08:18
xerrozhow nasty; why would i touch my laptop so inappropriately?08:18
nilesmaster is 94<>90  pcm is 81<>8108:18
xerrozniles, in terminal type lsmod | grep em08:19
xerrozthoreauputic: you are correct, most are.08:19
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nilesxerroz:  http://rafb.net/p/ZOWtzx26.html08:20
nileslooks like i Do have the drivers. hmm08:20
kingvuserund: i started the normal kubuntu dvd (not the alternate) and i went with the normal install ( not the safe graphics) and also went with the argument vga=771 and my colors on monitor are still messed up08:20
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xerrozniles: indeed you do08:20
danziAnyone have an ATI SP450 sound card?08:20
margis i just  installed cedega (last version) and  i cant  paly linegae08:20
margisin the site it says that   it  is  possible08:21
userundkingv: hmm.  then I'd go with the alternate cd.  The edgy livecd is finicky from my experience, so it doesn't surprise me08:21
margisanyone who can paly lineage2  with cedega?08:21
nileshmm08:21
xerrozniles, go to kde - > system settings -> sound server08:21
kingvuserund: ok the download is almost done.. i will let you know how that turns out.. thaks for the help so far08:21
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nilesxerroz: do you mean sound system ?08:22
userundkingv: no prob, but I won't be around but a few more minutes.  2:30am here :)08:22
xerrozalso, niles, where are you testing to attempt sound?08:22
xerrozniles: yes08:22
nilesEnable the sound system is checked xerroz08:22
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xerrozclick 'test sound'08:22
kingvuserund: ah its ok then.. hopefully it works.. i need to sleep too :)08:22
sanityx!find gmail08:22
ubotuFound: checkgmail, enigmail-locale-ca, enigmail-locale-cs, enigmail-locale-de, enigmail-locale-el (and 23 others)08:22
shulmanwhat's a good tutorial to create a software RAID ?08:22
margiscan anyone help me?08:23
nilesxerroz:  test failed.  i was testing with mp3's earlier08:23
xerrozniles: what application?08:23
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nileskaffeiene but there was no luck with that08:23
carutsu_katapult is not launching itself.... even if i click on it on the menu (>utilities>ktapult)08:24
cpk1kingv: can you get to tty1?08:24
nilesstrange,  my sound card worked with Debian.08:24
xerrozniles: its likely just a configuration problem08:24
xerrozniles do you have mplayer installed?08:25
nilesxerroz: not at the moment but i can install it.08:26
xerrozniles, just checking, but /dev/dsp does exist correct?08:26
nilesxerroz: according to google ESS Allegro,  is the sound card for the integrated card in the compaq.08:26
nilesso the question is,  how to get alsa to point to the sound blaster08:26
xerrozalsa isn't picking it up for some reason08:27
xerrozthis was confirmed with alsamixer -c #08:27
danzihelp!!!08:27
nilesxerroz: this sucks.  becuase my 5 year old compaq will not allow me to disable the card in teh bios.08:27
nilesbut rather assign an IRQ #08:27
nilesnumbers being 3,5 1108:28
xerrozniles: i believe you may need to mess around the with the driver08:28
xerrozniles: please join #alsa, and seek assistance there08:28
nilesxerroz: thanx for you time.08:28
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xerrozsorry i couldnt assist you further08:28
xerrozdanzi: with?08:28
danziSound card isn't working08:29
chris__can someone tell me how to open the sources.list in kubuntu where i can edit it?08:29
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danzichris__: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:29
adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:29
danziI win :)08:29
danzixerroz: It's a ATI SB45008:29
adydasim busy on another computer..08:29
xerrozATI makes a sound card?08:29
xerroz:-\08:29
adydashere i win08:30
danzixerroz: I just tell it like lshw sees it08:30
adydashttp://adydas.net/linux/repos.html08:30
danziadydas: Fine :)08:30
kingvcpk1: sorry.. yes i can08:30
adydas:p08:30
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xerrozdanzi08:30
xerrozdanzi: good news, your card is supported08:30
danzihttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI#matrix08:30
danziBad news I don't get sound :)08:30
xerrozdanzi: lsmod | grep hda08:30
chris__thanks danzi and adyas08:30
danzixerroz: Want the output?08:31
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xerrozdoes it say hda-intel?08:31
margis_anyone who plays lineage  with cedega?08:31
danziYes08:31
danzithree :)08:31
AnastasiaHow do I get kate as root, sudo kate doesn't work :-(?08:31
danzithree times08:31
xerrozgood, now type alsamixer08:31
danzixerroz: done08:32
Complejabye all08:32
adydasAnastasia:08:32
adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:32
adydaserr08:32
xerrozdanzi: do you see white 00's with green backgrounds under MASTER and PCM?08:32
adydasjust kdesu kate whateveryouwanttoedit08:32
danziYes08:32
Anastasiaadydas: thanks!08:32
xerrozdanzi: goto kde - > system settings -> sound system -> 'test sound'08:33
adydasi hate kate, so used to jed or nano now a days.. i find it easyer jsut to use that08:33
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danzixerroz: Nothing I can hear08:34
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xerrozdanzi: speakers are on, and functional?08:34
danziBuilt into the laptop so I guess they are on08:34
xerroz'guess' is not an acceptable answer :)08:35
xerrozdanzi: what is the make of your laptop?08:35
danziGateway Mx644608:35
xerrozinsure the speakers are not muted08:35
xerrozensure*08:35
danziThey are not08:35
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margis_anyone who uses  cedega?08:36
danziI pressed the Mute button till it flashed a big Mute OFF sign08:36
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nilesxerroz: alsamixer -c 2  is where my sound card is at08:36
xerrozi see ^_^08:37
xerrozdanzi: hmm08:37
danziUsing kernel 2.6.20-908:37
xerrozdanzi: 'test sound' did not report 'test failed'?08:38
danzino08:38
xerrozniles: so set the default to be index=208:38
danziEverything seems to be hunky dory08:39
danziBut no sound08:39
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Anastasiaxerroz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8505/  -  Thanks!08:40
xerrozdanzi: please see #alsa for more assistance, sorry i cannot help you any further08:41
danziok tried the Fn-Mute key as well as Mute on the player08:41
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Anastasiaxerroz: this is K`zan on the laptop where the problem is...08:42
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danzi!paste08:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:43
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xerrozAnastasia: what is the exact error again08:43
Anastasiaxerroz: I'd have to reboot and try to start wincrap again, but essentially that the windoz partition is beyond the BIOS limit, if you need it, I can go get it?08:44
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xerrozno thats fine08:45
Anastasiaxerroz: I'll go get it, bbiaf08:45
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Anastasiaxerroz: rr, standing by, thanks MUCH!08:45
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xerrozAnastasia: as root, type 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and pastebin the output08:46
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Anastasiaxerroz: wilco, brb08:46
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ubuntui need help :/.....im confused by these dpkg/apt-get msgs08:47
ubuntucan anyone help08:48
ubuntuim doing an fresh install08:48
xerrozplease pastebin the messages08:48
Anastasiaxerroz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8507/08:48
xerroz!pastebin08:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:48
xerrozAnastasia: @_@08:48
Anastasiaxerroz: ??08:49
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8509/08:49
xerrozit looks correct08:49
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Anastasiaxerroz: it should be, if I run (wincrap) fdisk /mbr I can get at it...08:49
Anastasiaxerroz: Problem is that my wireless card works under wincrap, but no luck so far with ubuntu and unfortunately there are things I need the wireless card for :-/.08:50
xerrozAnastasia: what is your wireless card?08:51
Anastasiaxerroz: Netgear WG511v108:51
Anastasiaxerroz: been fighting with that trying to get wpa-psk to work and so far just no luck.  Wanted to boot back into wincrap and make sure it didn't go west on me.08:52
xerrozAnastasia: http://blog.gilluminate.com/2005/7/25/getting-netgear-wg511-802-11b-g-wireless-card-to-work-in-linux08:52
xerrozAnastasia: oh, the card works, but wpa does not? is that correct08:52
Anastasiaxerroz: For 2 days now.08:52
Anastasiaxerroz: I'm not sure if the card works now, that is why I need to boot wincrap :-(.08:53
Anastasiaxerroz: It should work under wep, but it doesn't do that either.08:53
xerrozAnastasia: is your card detected in linux? can you bring the interface up?08:53
Anastasiaxerroz: I guess I just fdisk /mbr anb re-install grub after I find out if it works :-(.08:54
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Anastasiaxerroz: Yes and yes :-).  "everything seems to be fine (god knows if it really is between wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper).08:55
ubuntucan anyone help08:55
xerrozAnastasia: google wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper support08:55
xerrozi dont know for sure if it supports it [yet] 08:55
Anastasiaxerroz: been doing that for two days now :-/.08:55
Anastasiaxerroz: that is why I am starting to wonder about the card itself and the only thing I have to test with is wincrap on this box...08:56
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fooI have beryl +xgl + kde. How can I change my background image? Reason I ask is because there is something wrong with the kde background chooser. It's not showing my jpeg images... very weird. Any ideas?08:57
xerrozAnastasia: have you followed http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA08:59
Anastasiaxerroz: I guess I just run fdisk /mbr and build a boot floppy for when I want to run linux since grub can't cope beyond bios?08:59
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abattoirhi foo! nice to see you here.08:59
xerrozAnastasia: try #grub to get that issue fixed08:59
Anastasiaxerroz: I'm pretty sure I hit that one, done enough web sites that proport to make it work that I have reached terminal confusion (and eye strain :-).08:59
Anastasiaxerroz: Will check it out.  Thanks very much for you help here - very much appreciated.09:00
xerrozalso try #ndiswrapper09:00
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LL_Hakaisouso, how do i turn on 3ddesktop?09:01
Originooodo i have to forward a port to use skype?09:01
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: first run "3ddesk --acquire", then after it takes snapshots, "3ddesk"09:01
LL_Hakaisouthanks jucato09:01
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LL_Hakaisouwoah... that was a nifty desktop switcher09:03
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SpAwN!cue09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
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LL_Hakaisouso, do i gotta enter that command every time, or is there a keyboard shortcut?09:05
SpAwNcan you mount a bin/cue?09:05
stdinSpAwN: 1st you need to convert it to ISO09:05
SpAwNkiso isnt converting them to iso09:05
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margisanyone  who uses cedega?09:05
kingvcpk1: i just installed it and colors were messed up when it started so i went to tty209:05
xerrozmargis: try #wine or #cedega09:06
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margisjoin #cedega09:06
stdinSpAwN: use bchunk to convert bin/cue to ISO09:06
margislike this?09:06
snake_hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do09:06
margis#cedega09:06
snake_any idea??09:06
LL_Hakaisouso, do i gotta enter that command every time, or is there a keyboard shortcut?09:06
xerrozmargis: you can click it, or type /join #cedega09:06
SpAwNstdin, how?.... ive never used that command b409:06
LL_Hakaisoufor 3ddesk i mean09:06
snake_hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do09:07
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stdinSpAwN: bchunk <image.bin> <image.cue> <basename> (basename is the name of the iso file, without .iso at the end)09:08
SpAwNstdin, ahh killer thanks d00d :-)09:09
stdinSpAwN: yw :)09:09
LL_Hakaisou!keybind09:09
cpk1kingv: yeah either install the nvidia drivers immeadiatly with apt or edit xorg to use vesa or whatever09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keybind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:09
LL_Hakaisou!keybinding09:09
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts09:09
LL_Hakaisou*palm face*09:09
kingvcpk1: apt-get ? what the cmd again ?09:10
snake_hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do??09:10
cpk1kingv: I use aptitude but you could also use apt-get =)09:10
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kingvcpk1: ok :) so would apt-get nvidia do the job ?09:11
ubuntu:(09:11
LL_Hakaisouhow do i set a keybinding?09:11
ubuntuthis sucks i hope these errors dont break the system :/09:11
cpk1kingv: no, you need linux-restricted-modules-whatever linux-image you have installed09:11
stdin!shortcut | LL_Hakaisou09:11
ubotuLL_Hakaisou: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net09:11
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snake_!k3d09:12
LL_Hakaisouthanks09:12
ubotuk3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB09:12
=== Jucato notes that k3d, despite its name, is not a KDE app...
snake_how can i resolve this problem09:13
kingvcpk1: sorry i'm kind a new :s could you let the know the whole cmd09:13
snake_i try to install09:13
snake_and adept says could not commit changes09:13
snake_even when i try to remove says the same thing09:13
cpk1so i think sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` will work for the easiest way but it would be nice if someone else could confirm with me =)09:14
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stdincpk1: that should work, yeah :)09:14
snake_i have to install linux restricted modules ??09:15
cpk1kingv: btw those are ` not '09:15
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stdincpk1: I find it easier to use the $(command) format, less confusing09:16
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kingvcpk1: do i replace uname with edgy ?09:16
stdinkingv: no, just copy and paste09:16
kingvthanks09:17
cpk1kingv: no you do exactly what i typed: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`09:17
cpk1make sure you use the tilde key for the `09:17
fdoving$(uname -r) might be easier09:17
cpk1i suppose you both have a point09:17
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kingvwow it just froze09:17
duffthello everyone. i have some trouble with display and idk what to do09:18
kingvnot sure why it happend09:18
duffti installed Ubuntu 7.0409:18
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dufftand my monitor is now not able to be set at any resolution but 1024x74809:18
dufft768*09:19
cpk1kingv: still not doing anything?09:19
dufft0_o09:19
kingvcpk1: idk it just froze.. i have to restart it09:19
stdin!FixRes | dufft09:19
ubotudufft: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:19
cpk1kingv: ctrl c doesnt work?09:19
kingvcpk1: nothing09:19
cpk1kingv: just go to tty309:20
kingvcpk1: i will do that09:20
cpk1and then kill aptitude from there09:20
kingvcpk1: i also tried before to run apt-get update (b4 u told me that cmd) and it just froze09:20
cpk1I would have thought that ctrl c would kill it09:20
cpk1odd09:21
kingvcpk1: its doing something now09:22
cpk1well thats good09:22
kingvyeah:)09:22
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kingvcpk1: there is 4 done's and it had a list of "packages that have been automatically kept back"  and its not doing anything09:23
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cpk1kingv: after you did what?09:23
kingvyup09:24
kingvthis is strange... new install just going crazy09:24
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cpk1what command did you do?09:25
kingvjust like you typed in09:25
kingvsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`09:25
cpk1ok sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
cpk1kingv: you need to enable restricted09:26
kingvi can't do antyhing.. its not frozen.. but i can't type09:26
kingvtty4?09:26
cpk1why cant you type?09:27
cpk1spam ctrl c a bunch then try09:27
kingvok now its good09:27
cpk1i believe in a heavy hand and ctrl c when your box doesnt pay attention09:27
kingvok i'm in sources.list09:27
cpk1ok are there any lines with restricted in them?09:27
kingv409:28
kingvno more09:28
kingv6 i think09:28
kingv409:29
kingv:)09:29
kingvshould i just get it to install nvidia somehow ?09:30
cpk1kingv: so in the lines with restricted do they start with a #?09:30
kingv2 yes09:31
cpk1kingv: ok delete the # and then save and exit09:31
cpk1kingv: unless its a line explaining restricted =P09:31
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kingvwell #deb ..../edgy-backports main restricted unive$09:32
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kingv# deb ... /edgy-backports main restricted u$09:32
cpk1kingv: thats not an explanation delete the # =)09:33
stdinthe edgy-backports one isn't necessary09:33
cpk1but thats just backports which means you should have already been able to get the restricted ones09:33
cpk1and stdin beat me to it09:33
stdin:)09:34
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=== cpk1 wonders if it would be easier to just change the X driver to vesa
cpk1err vga09:34
stdinshouldn't nv work with all the nvidia cards?09:35
kingvthat's what i was wondering09:35
cpk1well whats xorg.conf say its using right now?09:35
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kingvlet me check09:36
kingvdriver says nv09:37
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kingvshould i change it to nvidia?09:37
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Aimeehey, anyone out there could get wine run on kubuntu 6.10?09:37
kingvamiee: yes use automatix to get it09:38
cpk1you dont have the nvidia driver =)09:38
cpk1change it to vga09:38
kingvok09:38
cpk1and dont use automatix Aimee09:38
Aimeekingv, but I tried to install wine from distro package, it didn't work09:38
stdinAimee: depends on the app you want to run, some work, some don't09:38
cpk1Aimee: the wine website has directions for adding the wine repo to your sources.list09:38
Aimeeand when I compiled myself, the same thing happened09:39
kingvcpk1: should i restart now ?09:39
cpk1Aimee: there is no reason why wine wouldnt work if you added the repo to your sources.list09:39
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cpk1kingv: no just restart X09:39
AimeeI do this five time09:40
Aimeeand I'm sure it didn't work, because I could not install winrar09:40
cpk1kingv: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart should work fine09:40
Aimeethank, I'll try09:40
cpk1Aimee: you know you can get native unrar right?09:40
Aimeeno, winrar just for a test09:41
AimeeI didn't need it09:41
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stdinAimee: if you want to test wine, run "wine notepad", if you see notepad open, then wine is working09:41
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kingvcpk1: can't start x now09:42
cpk1or just 'regedit'09:42
cpk1kingv: why not?09:43
stdincheck the X server log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:43
kingvcpk1: lol .. i wonder that too.. new install .. and still can't run propertly... "driver can't suport depth 24"09:43
cpk1i always get confused on whether you are supposed to use vga or vesa09:44
cpk1so i might have made a mistake =P09:44
cpk1just change the depth then heh09:44
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kingvso change the driver from vga to vesa?09:45
stdincpk1: vga will work on anything, but it's very restricted with depth and resolution, vesa is less restrictive and should work on any card/chip09:45
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cpk1yeah try vesa09:45
cpk1stdin: thanks for the explanation =)09:45
stdin:)09:46
cpk1I think I get confused because isnt VESA the name of an association?09:46
cpk1like video electronics standards association or something09:46
stdinnot sure, maybe09:47
kingvok now that cmd doesn't work to restart.. it says invoke-rc.d uknown initscript09:47
stdinlike mpeg is too09:47
Aimeethank you very much, kingv, It worked09:47
kingv:)09:48
kingvgreat.. now if only i could get this to install that would be HOT09:48
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cpk1kingv: ok I think you can just go to tty7 and then do ctrl alt backspace to restart X09:48
AimeeI'm gonna install iTunes, kingv09:48
stdinkingv: or: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart09:48
kingvwow i just did startx09:49
kingvand its good!09:49
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cpk1oh, i would have thought it would be running already09:49
cpk1ok well at least now you can get into X but you will probably want to install the nvidia drivers =)09:49
jarnAnyone know a free usenet server?09:49
kingvso basically all it needs to be done is driver changed from nv to vesa09:49
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chuenHi. Can someone remind me of the command to unlock adept?09:50
stdin!aptfix | chuen09:51
ubotuchuen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:51
chuenstdin: Hi! And thanks, will try that.09:52
kingvcpk1: when i install nvidia drivers.. will i need to change the driver to nvidia .. or will the install do it automatically09:52
cpk1kingv: it will do it automatically. read !nvidia09:53
kingv!nvidia09:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:53
kingvk thanks09:53
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kingvok guys that's a lot for your help .. i really appriciate it! god bless ! peace!09:54
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chuenstdin: That's interesting, I was promted to complete an install which Adept couldn't do because I needed to eneter someting (via command line)09:56
stdinchuen: yeah, Adept can't take any use input right now, and some packages need that. It will be fixed in the nest release tho09:57
stdins/use/user/09:57
sanityxAnybody know a good tool for mounting isos without burning them?09:58
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cpk1yeah, mount09:59
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sanityxoh i didnt know that :-D09:59
stdinsanityx: mount (with sudo), kiso or fuse09:59
stdin!iso09:59
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn09:59
cpk1mount -o loop nameofiso /some/folder09:59
sanityxnice thanks09:59
stdincpk1: ubotu beat you :P09:59
stdin*beet09:59
cpk1bah, i'm brushing my teeth09:59
stdinnot beat :P09:59
Lijohcan someone help me.. i change my harddsik to another pc my old pc is AMd and new pc is P4 how to change all driver ect: sound :)10:00
LL_Hakaisou!icons10:00
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)10:00
LL_Hakaisou!icon10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
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LL_Hakaisouhmm10:00
LL_Hakaisouquestion10:00
chuenstdin: OK . Cheers.10:00
LL_Hakaisouis there a way to define a custom icon to a file without that icon applying to all files sharing it's extension?10:01
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cpk1this kind of reminds me of what I gave up on; assigning .jpgs to folders (namely music folders)10:01
sanityxI'm a little confused about what the fuss is about getting codecs, and using automatix and all that. apt-get install vlc. done.10:02
stdinLijoh: it should just detect the chances and load the right drivers10:02
LL_Hakaisouvlc works on linux?10:02
sanityxduh.10:02
LL_Hakaisou*installs ASAP*10:02
sanityxits cross platform10:02
stdinGTK tho :(10:02
sanityxwell yeah but it works!10:02
sanityxand easily10:02
stdinyeah, I have it :P10:03
Lijohi see .. but it not load right drivers .. maybe i should restart10:03
stdinbut I'd like to have a Qt version10:03
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LL_Hakaisouwhat in the world was all that stuff it just installed?!10:03
sanityxstdin, point taken. but its still a lot simpler than installing all the various codecs, just to get kaffine to work10:03
sanityxeven with automatix.10:03
stdinsanityx: what so hard about installing the codecs? and I don't/won't use automatix, as I want a working system10:04
sanityxstdin, nothing's hard about it.10:04
sanityxinstalling vlc is easier.10:04
sanityxapt-get install codec 1 codec 2 codec 3 etc.10:04
sanityxor10:04
sanityxapt-get install vlc10:04
sanityxAutomatix has yet to brake my system, I just can't figure out how its useful.10:05
LL_Hakaisouso, do i have all the codecs now?10:05
stdinbah, my favourite media player is mplayer :P10:05
sanityxLL_Hakaisou, anything vlc can play, you can play10:05
sanityxIts identical to the windows version. Identical, but shittier.10:06
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sanityxI finally got fglrx working. But now I have nothing to do with it :-P10:07
stdininstall google earth :P10:08
LL_Hakaisoudamnit...10:08
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sanityxstdin, lol. That's still nothing.10:08
stdinsanityx: and beryl, then play with it :P10:08
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sanityxstdin, already did beryl, and compiz10:09
sanityxthey10:09
LL_Hakaisoukaffeine is still refusing to display video files.10:09
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LL_Hakaisouit'll play them, but the video won't display10:09
sanityxLL_Hakaisou, Installing VLC wont let you play video in caffine10:09
sanityxit lets you play it in vlc10:09
LL_Hakaisouoh10:10
LL_Hakaisouwell crud10:10
LL_Hakaisounevermind then10:10
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sanityxstdin, Beryl and compiz are entertaining, but mostly useless, and totally unstable.10:10
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stdinsanityx: ahh, it's a good way to waste some time :)10:11
naught101anyone here ever used familiar linux on a ipaq?10:11
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sanityxstdin, yeah until it crashes X10:12
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stdinsanityx: that's probably more to do with the ATI driver than beryl10:12
sanityxstdin, If that were true, x would crash more often. Its perfectly fine under normal X, even when playing 3d games10:13
sanityxi play tremulous without a problem10:13
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stdinsanityx: I have beryl with the i810 driver, and X *never* crashes10:14
sanityxstdin, lucky you10:14
stdinsanityx: sometimes beryl may crash, but never X10:14
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reldruhI have a media center remote I'm trying to get working with lirc. How do I know whether to use lirc_mceusb or lirc_mceusb2?10:14
K`zanxerroz:   Solved the bios limit problem.  booted wincrap CD and ran fixmbr and fixboot, wincrap boots!  Made a grub boot diskette and I can boot linux off that.  Someone said that lilo can handle the bios problem, so I'll look into that.  BTW, the grub error was #18 (you are screwed and SOL with grub).  Thanks again for your help, now I can keep working on getting the wireless card going under linux.10:14
sanityxah sorry thats what i meant stdin10:14
sanityxX doesnt crash, beryl does10:14
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sanityxberyl isnt likely to crash x, since it just runs on top of it10:14
stdinsanityx: yeah, beryl isn't even v1.0 yet, so it's bound to be unstable10:15
sanityxstdin, I know10:16
sanityxnot that version numbers really mean anything in open source10:16
sanityxI mean wine has been sub-1.0 for how long now?10:16
stdinheh, true :P10:16
sanityx10 years or some crazy number?10:16
stdinbut wine isn't stable either10:16
sanityxyeah thats true10:17
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sanityxbut thats more due to the nature of what it does10:17
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jackhi i cannot get my micro to work, neither in skype nor in the soud recorder, sound is turned on and it uses the alsa10:34
jackanyona any idea?10:35
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reldruhI'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?10:41
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nagyvhello! Is here any kino expert? I would like to edit a mpeg video (I just my desktop movements), but can not import it. It talks about an empty playlist, but I do not find playlists at all.10:43
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H264Hi10:46
H264I am going to attempt to compile a game...10:47
H264and I just feel better if somebody holds my hand while I do it10:47
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brosiozanyone known because mutt require the installation of postfix ? i don't want a mail server although it is bind to localhost!!10:47
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alexicon!apache10:48
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:48
Lynourebrosioz: It does not require postfix, it requires some mail server.10:49
nagyvH264: just go on, and ask if there are any problems! :)10:50
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reldruhI'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?10:50
H264I intend to... first time at compiling with the command line10:50
H264to compile c programs, it's cpp <filename> right?10:51
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Lynourebrosioz: you can have a mail server without running it, too. But then you'll need to use something to get your mails to mutt (e.g. fetchmail)10:52
brosiozLynoure: so why require a mail server ?10:52
pearlyah... no. it's 'gcc' <filename>, and there are many options.10:52
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brosiozmutt is a mail client10:52
H264ohh, gcc?10:52
brosiozi want a mail client in console10:52
brosiozand mutt is the best10:52
H264looking at it...10:52
Lynourebrosioz: Yes, but not one that fetches the mails from a remote site on its own10:52
H264info gcc10:52
H264:)10:52
pearlygood luck. theres much to read...10:53
JucatoH264: install the "build-essential" package if you need the compiler10:53
brosiozLynoure: understand so the mail server in this case postifx will do that ?10:53
H264it's not built in?10:53
JucatoH264: nope10:54
H264hmm10:55
H264how big is it?10:55
H26456K modem is a huge bottle-neck...10:55
Lynourebrosioz: yes, if you forward your remote mails to it.10:55
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arunkalehey people.. if i use a microsoft keyboard, will the shortcut keys on the keyboard (volume, mail, etc) work with kubuntu as well?10:56
H264hmm, I have a Makefile.in and a Makefile.am10:57
H264it looks like those two files are important10:57
reldruharunkale: some should. Edgy is really good with that kind of stuff. The volume buttons should work and maybe a few others. I'm not sure about mail buttons and whatnot10:58
arunkalereldruh: thanks10:58
reldruharunkale: download the liveCD and see what works and what doesn't10:58
reldruharunkale: no problem10:58
reldruharunkale: you don't happen to be a lirc guru, do you?10:58
arunkalereldruh: not really :) why do you ask?10:59
reldruharunkale: I'm having problems getting a remote working :-(10:59
Lynourebrosioz: But, I too am undecided on whether MUAs should depend on MTAs, but I'm not a dev, so it's not my decision. You can voice your opinion to devs and maybe they'll listen10:59
arunkalewhat remote?11:00
reldruharunkale: I got it with a hauppauge pvr-500. It's a microsoft mce remote. Very similar to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Mce-hauppauge.jpg11:00
arunkalereldruh: never used a remote, sorry11:02
reldruharunkale: lirc-modules-source won't build. I'm debating giving up for the night :-(11:02
nagyvH264: don't you have a readme or install file with the source code? probably there you would get some info also about compiling11:02
reldruharunkale: no problem. Good luck with your keyboard11:02
arunkalereldruh: thanks, i hope i get my nvidia drivers set up properly11:02
pearlyH264: Oh yeah. Then you've got a GNU autoconf package. Definitely needs build-essentials. Try to get the CD/DVD, by all means - build-essentials might pull quite some packages.11:03
alexiconwhich php should i install 4 or 5?11:03
reldruharunkale: they're relatively easy to setup. Use the ones from the website if you can. They're newer and the install is almost painless11:03
arunkalereldruh: i read the instructions on the ubuntu website to install from the restricted repos11:04
reldruharunkale: that works too :-)11:04
alexiconwhich version of php is used more commonly now?11:05
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X704sorry, disconnected from internet...11:06
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X704so what do I need to compile C/C++ programs?11:07
reldruhX704: build-essential is a good start11:08
reldruhX704: it's a group of packages for compiling programs\11:08
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JucatoX704: the build-essential package will install the essential packages for compiling basic C/C++ programs11:08
X704ok, how do I get it?11:08
CugelDudes, whenever I click on a trailer at http://www.apple.com/trailers/  Firefox quits without any message (hard crash!) -- anyone else having the same problem? I'm not sure if it's Kubuntu-related, but still, give it a try.11:09
alexiconcan anyone tell me which version of php is most common now?11:09
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X704while X704 uses his two Macs11:10
X704err, I ment Cugel11:11
X704...11:11
X704so is the command something like apt-get build-essencial?11:11
me2winyes11:12
reldruhX704: apt-get install build-essential11:12
Jucatosudo apt-get install build-essential11:12
Jucatoor use Adept11:12
CugelX704: eh?11:12
alexicon!php11:12
X704ok thanks :)11:12
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alexiconargh11:12
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reldruhI'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?11:13
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X704I'll be back for you!11:13
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premier_Im having trouble with my laptop related to closing the lid and screensavers11:15
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premier_When I close the lid, the screensaver still shows.  (I can still see it flashing)11:16
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alexiconcan i run php 4 and 5 side by side?11:17
stdindon't see why not, the packages don't conflict11:18
alexiconty stdin11:18
premier_Also, even if I turn off the kde screensaver, the x screen saver still runs11:18
naught101anyone know if it's possible to connect to two interfaces at once with knetworkmanager? (usb0 for Ipaq, and eth1 for 'net)11:19
reldruhnaught101: I'm not sure if it's possible with knetworkmanager, but it's definitely possible11:20
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alexiconnaught101: im pretty sure knetworkmanager can only cope with one device at a time11:20
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alexiconbut you can configure all your devices in kcontrol11:20
naught101cheers11:21
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naught101does everything it does go through ifup/down?11:21
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alexiconifconfig yes11:21
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Flosofthey11:21
alexiconits best to either configure it all manually or all through kcontrol11:22
FlosoftI did an upgrade to feisty, but the system freezed in the middle of it11:22
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Flosoftnor after the reset, I can't boot anymore11:22
CugelFlosoft: that sounds bad.11:22
CugelCan you boot into failsafe mode?11:22
Flosoftnope11:22
Flosoftit has problems mounting the root file system :S11:22
CugelTime to boot from a rescue disk, I think.11:23
Flosoftwell ... I can go into grub11:23
Flosoftbut once I start the rescue mode for example:11:23
CugelYou may need to repair the root mount -- anyone ideas about how to do that?11:23
alexiconits probably lost your kernel image11:23
FlosoftCannot open root device "UUID=*something*" or unknown-block(0,0)11:24
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FlosoftPlease append a correct root= boot option11:24
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FlosoftKernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)11:24
Flosoftthat is what rescue mode gives me11:25
naught101alexicon: when I run ifconfig I get 'usb0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 7E:EA:33:6F:CC:83' etc. etc.11:25
naught101but when I run 'sudo ifup usb0' I get 'Ignoring unknown interface usb0=usb0.'11:26
alexiconyeah, ifconfig displays your network device configuration, as well as altering them11:26
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alexiconifup turns the interface on as it were, while down disconnects it11:26
alexiconifconfig tells you what its details are, or changes them11:26
naught101yeah, but I can't turn it on with ifup11:26
naught101cause it tells me it's ignoring it11:26
alexiconoh usb device...11:27
alexiconerm11:27
arunkalehow does one change the MAC address on kubuntu?11:27
alexiconive never seen a network interface called usb0...11:27
naught101no idea11:27
naught101it's usb networking to an ipaq running familiar linux11:27
alexicona usb what?11:27
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Flosoftanyone able to help me?11:27
alexiconwifi device?11:28
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naught101no, it's an ipaq handheld computer, connecting over ethernet simulated usb.11:28
alexiconive got no idea then :P11:28
naught101knetworkmanager connects it fine, but then it disconnects my ethernet (internet)11:29
alexiconstrange11:29
naught101indeed. I might try connecting to the usb0 and then manually conencting to ethernet11:30
naught101cheers for the help. I might be back with questions :)11:30
alexicon:)11:30
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HoondieHello people, if I install gnome on top of Kubuntu, how can i make one or the other the default?11:31
alexiconwhen you log out11:31
alexiconand log back in, it will ask you if you want gnome to be your default session11:32
alexiconyou can change it any time you login11:32
HoondieSo Gnome will apppear as another session that i can select when logging in?11:33
alexiconyep11:33
Hoondieok,  thanks for ya help :)11:33
alexiconnp11:33
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Flosoftpls .. .anyone? I really want to get feisty up and running11:34
leopartux_hi  how can i install dolphin file manager to kubuntu11:34
H264ok, read some instructions and downloaded the recomended build essencial...11:35
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leopartux_i cant find it   add remove programs window11:35
H264now it wants me to download autoconf 2.52 or better11:35
Jucato!dolphin11:35
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB11:36
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Jucatoleopartux_: you can download this .deb package and install it. it's the 2nd to the latest version: http://digilander.libero.it/dr_kabuto/edgy/dolphin_0.8.1-1_i386.deb11:37
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H264what do I need to know about autoconf?11:38
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JucatoH264: what do you mean?11:39
rapidhow can I allow a connection to another machine from the terminal for a remote desktop connection?11:40
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H264ok, the game came with a script, and said to ./autogen.sh11:41
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago!!! :)11:41
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JucatoH264: installed autoconf and automake1.9?11:42
H264and it siad after that I needed autoconf 2.5211:42
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H264guess not11:42
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: blah been up all night...celebrating..going to bed11:42
snakewhat is the grep cmd to see what nvidia drivers am i using ??11:42
me2winglxinfo i think11:43
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snakethanx11:44
H264based on what jucato said, I need autoconf and automake 1.9...11:44
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leopartux_Jucato:  i have downloaded the package. now how can i install it11:46
leopartux_by using apt-get command ?11:46
Jucatoleopartux_: right-click on it -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package11:46
H264what's that best way to get autocanf and automake?11:46
leopartux_thanks11:46
JucatoH264: apt-get or Adept. take your pick11:47
H264so apt-get autoconf?11:47
eilker!Audacity11:47
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB11:47
JucatoH264: sudo apt-get install autconf11:47
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H264E: could not find package autoconf11:48
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H264ideas?11:49
Jucato!info autoconf11:49
ubotuautoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB11:49
Jucatobut you were able to install build-essential earlier, right?11:49
JucatoH264: sudo apt-get install autoconf <--- sorry for the typo11:50
H264yeah, no problem11:50
H264oh11:50
H264:)11:50
H264and it's autoconf, not autconf :)11:51
H264thanks for your help :)11:51
Jucatothat's why I said, "sorry for the typo"11:52
JucatoI got it wrong the first time11:52
eilkeranyone using audacity _? i installed it, but no text in its menu.11:52
H264err, ok, my bad this time11:53
Admiral_Chicagois it still " Jucato Q & A"?11:53
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: heh no. you just managed to walk in at a slight segue :)11:53
Admiral_Chicagohaha, more like wander in after a party11:53
Admiral_Chicago@now Chicago11:53
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: March 04 2007, 04:53:4411:53
Admiral_Chicago:)11:53
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Menahey how to make an image to be appear as if it was a 3d but its already 2d11:54
Mena:D11:54
aliveuserhello11:54
H264hmm, it looks like I need an older version of autoconf as well...11:54
Cugelmena: 'appear'?11:55
H264how do I get an older version?11:55
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JucatoH264: sudo apt-get install automake1.911:55
CugelYou could add some shadow to it?11:55
MenaCuget, yes11:55
MenaCuget, hmmm ok11:55
CugelAnd you can put it on a cube or a ball and do some raytracing.11:55
MenaCuget, ookay11:55
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JucatoMena: image editors/painting programs11:56
aliveuserhello, someone that could help me with a cd/dvd problem??11:56
H264night11:56
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: good night! (are you drunk? :P)11:56
MenaJucato, i am planning to make an image with to be appear as 3d but it already 2d11:56
MenaCuget, but Cuget tell me some ways11:57
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no!...........11:57
JucatoMena: yes. but what does it have to do w/ Kubuntu? :D11:57
Admiral_Chicagohaha. good luck with everything11:57
Jucatohehe go to sleep11:57
Menajucato, i just sked and i am planning to make it for kbfx but the problwm with background so i asked11:57
Menaasked*11:58
Jucatoah :)11:58
H264oOo, it's working!11:58
H264will report back in a bit11:58
MenaCuget, Thanks :)11:58
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H264configure: error: Could not find zlib library.12:01
H264configure failed12:01
xBillaliveuser: just ask12:01
premier_I having problems with screensavers, closing the lid of my laptop, etc12:02
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premier_It seems to behave very randomly, as if it has a mind of its own12:02
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premier_Im using kpowersaver12:03
premier_Im using kpowersave12:03
H264so it looks like I need the zlib package12:03
JucatoH264: install zlib1g-dev12:03
MenaJucato, or Cuget What is s PyXML.12:03
H264apt-get again?12:03
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xBillpremier: had a look a klaptopdaemon ?12:04
JucatoH264: when it asks for <package> library or headers, look for the -dev package for it12:04
JucatoH264: yes. unless you want to use Adept12:04
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H264I'm such a n00bie at this :)12:06
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H264heh, another problem...12:08
arunkaleJucato: any idea how I can change my MAC address in kubuntu??12:09
Jucatoarunkale: sorry.. I don't even know what a MAC address is :(12:09
Jucato going away now12:09
arunkaleok, thanks12:09
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: there is a way to regenerate it, i don't think you can change it on your own12:09
arunkalewhat do you mean?12:10
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: the only way to do it that I know of is through a router12:10
arunkalecan i at least fake it or something12:10
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Admiral_Chicagoso the router clones a new MAC address12:10
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aliveuseri enter a cd in the device, it thinks a little and give this errors via logs12:12
aliveuserBuffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 812:12
aliveuseri'm on a laptop and kubuntu-edgy12:12
MenaJucato, befor you go away12:13
eilkercan recordmydesktop save in avi format too or just ogg format ?12:13
MenaJucato, do you know any thing about pyxml12:13
arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: found a way12:13
Menaany one else12:13
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Admiral_Chicagogood12:14
Mena!Hello!12:15
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB12:15
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stefancan someone tell me what I have to do to find out which programm is "eating" my ram?12:15
Menastefan, do you suing azureus12:15
Menausing*12:15
stefanazareus ?12:16
H264I'll be back for you!12:16
Menaazureus*12:16
Mena!azureus12:16
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo12:16
xBillarunkale:sudo aptitude install macchanger12:16
arunkalexBill: what's macchanger12:16
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Menastefan, bec as i guess its tkae a lot space fo the ram be cit susing java12:17
stefanno , ii dont use a toorent client12:17
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Menastefan, ok12:17
stefanNo , I need a caommand to find out what is going on in my ram?12:17
stefancomand12:18
stefanwhich programm is using the ram?12:18
Cugelstefan: type 'top'12:18
Admiral_Chicagostefan: there is another app... KsysGuard... in K menu >> Syste12:19
Admiral_ChicagoSystem12:19
cerbero626or pstree or ps -A | grep programmname12:19
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Admiral_Chicagoafk12:19
stefanokay I I  see MEM% that is the one for me, correct?12:19
JohnFlux2right12:20
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stefancool, thanks !!12:22
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marc_Hello, can anyone help me concerning "login-screen-problems"?12:31
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H264I'm back...12:32
H264with more problems...12:32
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H264I guess I need imlib-progs or something like that12:33
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marc_Hm..anyone here? Or are all of you "ghosts"?12:33
mhbhello everyone ... um ... I have a rather stupid question. When I run an X program as root (using sudo -i) the app states "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" ... can I fix it somehow?12:33
abattoirmhb: hi :)12:34
abattoirmhb: tried xhost + ?12:34
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abattoirmarc_: well, there are 324 others :)12:35
mhbabattoir: how to do that?12:35
abattoirmhb: just run 'xhost +' in a terminal12:35
mhboh, thanks12:35
H264meh, I'll be back yet again12:35
abattoirmhb: works?12:36
mhb.o)12:36
mhbabattoir: yeah12:36
marc_Ok. I got a Problem concerning the login-screen. Bootup everything works fine, but then a black screen comes up. If I change via ctrl+alt+F7 my normal login screen is there. How could I set it back thats there from the beginning?12:36
abattoirmhb: cool, you are however giving access to 'everyone', so technically could be a vulnerability i guess(the fine print)12:36
mhbabattoir: everyone on the local machine, right?12:36
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abattoirmhb: i think any user on the machine and any 'host' on the network as well12:37
alexicon!mantis12:37
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abattoirmhb: 'man xhost' has more info12:38
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marc_Can no one help me? What do I need to set up that after bootup the loginscreen is there instead of a black screen?12:44
_n_e_o_can anyone answer a question?12:44
apokryphos!anyone12:45
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:45
marc_I can switch to the loginscreen via ctrl+alt+F7...but its not turned on by default, but it was before upgrading...12:45
_n_e_o_lol12:45
_n_e_o_how can i get on undernet with Konverastion?12:45
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rbrunhuberDoes anyone use kerry/beagle?12:45
alexicon!flyspray12:45
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rbrunhuberBeagle shows a icon in the system tray. Do you know how to get rid of this?12:47
Cugelrbrun: it's not in the options?12:48
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rbrunhuberCugel: I could not find any option there. I have the kerry icon that is sufficient but there is a beagle icon to which spoils the system tray.12:50
CugelYes, I see. Kerry should ditch the standard Beagle icon, I think. I don't have Beagle but I'm considering it.12:50
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Cugel"Server: irc.gimp.org Channel: #dashboard"  -- maybe ask there?12:51
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H264I need some help trying to compile this thing still12:54
H264it's asking for an imlib of  sorts12:55
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H264gdk-imlib-dev12:55
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H264and imlib-progs12:56
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floi'vd installed amarok and kdevelop under a gnome envirment but now i have a /home/-/.kde/share/config empty folder how can i remadiate?12:59
arunkaleshould i wait for my edgy iso to finish downloading, or should i install dapper and then upgrade12:59
alexander_Hello12:59
arunkalecoz edgy has about 5 more hours to go and i'm getting impatient :)12:59
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xBillif you don't wait, you will have to wait for the upgrade to finish, what takes about same as long01:00
alexander_does anybody know some backup software for kubuntu?01:00
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xBillalexander_ : keep01:01
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krautmoin01:04
alexander_hello01:05
xBillsers01:05
alexander_i want to backup my kubuntu01:05
alexander_which programm would you use?01:05
xBillhmm...01:05
alexander_can i use acronis?01:06
alexander_hmm i will simply try it01:07
alexander_ok tnx for your help01:07
xBilli guess yes, acronis doesn't care if there is linux or anything else on the partition01:07
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leopartux_i want to install opera   can you give me link for its deb package01:09
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xBillhttp://www.opera.com/download/ ?01:10
arunkaleleopartux_ : just install using adept?01:11
pointwoodleopartux_: ubuntu got a repo that contains it01:11
leopartux_i couldnt find it in adept programs lis01:13
leopartux_Sysinfo for 'leopartux-laptop': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.60GHz at 600 MHz (1197 bogomips), , RAM: 224/233MB, 109 proc's, 2.4h up01:13
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pointwoodleopartux_: you have to add that repo01:14
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pointwooddeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main01:15
leopartux_is this the command to add that repo01:16
leopartux_and if i add it can i use it from adept01:16
pointwoodit is the repo you add to your sources.list01:16
pointwoodand yes, then you can use it in adept01:16
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leopartux_thanks pointwood01:17
pointwoodI have never added repos in adept, I always just edit sources.list, but you can add it in adept too01:17
pointwoodjust go to Adept -> manage repositories01:18
pointwoodand add that line I posted above01:18
crazy_busAre there any libraries I need besides libxvidcore to be able to encode to xvid with blender which uses ffmpeg01:18
Erunno!opera | leopartux_01:18
ubotuleopartux_: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser01:18
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pointwoodahh, of course, ubotu has it covered :)01:19
Erunnoleopartux_: Opera also provides a repository with the latest version: http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free01:20
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Erunnoleopartux_: Canonical's repo didn't provide the latest version of Opera in the past.01:21
lallerDoes anyone know how to get drivers for my 9600xt to work? (on x64)01:21
arunkaleMy ViewSonic widescreen monitor should work with Kubuntu, right?01:23
arunkalethe optimum resolution for this is 1440x90001:24
leopartux_i have downloaded dolphin deb package and install it by right clicking and kubuntu pacage menu - install package01:24
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pointwoodarunkale: it should01:25
arunkalegreat3.01:25
arunkalegreat*01:25
MetalCodeis there a way of installing an older version of KDE through the repositories?01:25
pointwoodor at least, I can't see why it shouldn't01:26
leopartux_and now i am downloading deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/01:26
pointwoodit works fine here on my laptop01:26
pointwoodwith that resolution01:26
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Erunnopointwood: No problem with resolutions like 1280x800 ?01:27
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pointwood1440x90001:27
pointwoodis what I run on this thinkpad01:28
pointwoodz61t01:28
pointwoodintel gfx :)01:28
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=== leopartux_ thanks you all.
arunkalei have nvidia geforce01:29
Erunnopointwood: Ah, good to hear. I thought I read about some bug with widescreens on launchpad.01:29
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arunkalemy friend tried installing ubuntu on his widescreen mac, and it didn't work01:30
pointwoodErunno: there probably are bugs, but it works fine here :)01:30
arunkalebut i've heard it works with PCs01:30
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arunkalei mean it didn't detect the widescreen resolution01:31
pointwood:/01:31
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Erunnoarunkale: It's probably solveable with some changes to xorg.conf, but it shouldn't be necessary.01:31
Erunnoarunkale: Afaik this detection problem was solved in fedora and suse. Meh.01:32
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arunkaleeveryone suddenly went quiet?01:40
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xushihi all01:48
xushiThis is my second day with kubuntu 6.10, and so far so good! I'd like to ask, is there a link to all the new packages or their versions in the new herd releases? (1 through 5). I'm trying to find when/if evolution is upgraded01:49
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gabohello. i just installed wine, but i dont really know how to run the apps, any hints?01:50
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Jucatoxushi: please don't do that again01:51
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xushiDo what again ?01:51
Jucato*** xushi sets the channel topic to "".01:51
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xushi?01:51
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MetalCodegabo: wine app.exe01:51
xushish*t, very sorry for that01:51
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Tm_TJucato: When that happened?01:52
xushiIt's this new irc client.. i typed /topic to see if there was one01:52
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xushididn't mean to delete :)01:52
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JucatoTm_T: xushi "accidentally" changed the topic01:52
gabodo i have to specify the route to the application?01:52
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Tm_TAah, now I see it.01:52
Tm_TJucato: Yup, didn't see that topic change first.01:52
Jucatoxushi: http://packages.ubuntu.com01:52
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MetalCodegabo: yes01:53
JucatoTm_T: I'm locking the topic01:53
xushiI typed /topic expecting it to show.. but i guess kvirc does things differently01:53
gabook. before, kubuntu i used mandriva, and wine had a small graphical interface, how do i install it?01:54
Jucatoxushi: /topic without a blank space after that01:54
Jucatoxushi: you probably typed "/topic "01:54
xushinope, i typed "/topic"01:54
xushii'm sure of it, ijust double checked01:54
xushianyway.. sorry for that01:54
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Jucatook01:54
ForgeAusJucato how do I fix my Kaffeine?01:55
ForgeAusit give no konsole error, in fact it does nothing01:55
ForgeAus(it runs as root tho)01:55
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ForgeAusit should give some init messages and stuff as it starts up, but it doesn't even do that01:55
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JucatoForgeAus: try moving the kaffeinerc file in ~/.kde/share/config/01:55
ForgeAusshould I try reinstall?01:55
conteblackheimqualche itailiano che pu darmi una mano !^?01:56
ForgeAusthanx01:56
Tm_T!it01:56
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:56
conteblackheimho installato ieri kubuntu e nn ci capsioc nulla !01:56
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Tm_Tconteblackheim: Go to italian channels or use english thank you.01:56
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rbrunhuberhow can i grep for something starting with --?01:58
Tm_T'--foofoo' ?01:58
ForgeAushmm didn't fix it01:58
rbrunhuberTm_T:  nope sorry, tried that already01:58
rbrunhuberTm_T: "  does not help either01:59
Lynourerbrunhuber: use  -e --01:59
Tm_TLynoure: Hi.01:59
rbrunhuberLynoure: thanxs01:59
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LynoureTm_T: hi (just half there, working elsewhere)02:00
Tm_TLynoure: Oh you've always been only half of a man anyway.02:00
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Tm_Tpeltonen: Moin.02:00
rbrunhuberOn kde startup with kerry this process is started: beagle-search --debug /usr/lib/beagle/Search.exe --icon. But i can't find who is starting it02:01
gabohey just one quick questiong, im trying to specify the route to one file, using the terminal but the route has a space in between, how do i type02:01
Tm_Tgabo: /foo/foo\ foo/ ?02:01
gabook thanks02:01
LynoureTm_T: :P02:01
Tm_T'\ ' as space02:01
rbrunhubergabo: Escape the space with \02:01
Tm_TLynoure: I knew you'd agree with me.02:02
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LynoureTm_T: Not willing to take it further on the support channel.02:04
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Tm_TLynoure: Yup, can't give that kind od support here.02:04
Tm_Ts/od/of/02:05
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phichohi can someone pls tell me how to install 'bulid-essential' and 'linux-headers' package on kubuntu i can't find them in Package Manager02:06
ForgeAus!repository02:07
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:07
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phichowell in ubundu they wore in Package Manager but not in kubuntu02:08
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ForgeAusmanage repositories in Adept02:09
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phichothanks alot02:09
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noehola02:11
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goguhello evbd02:12
goguim new in linux02:12
goguhelp me pls02:12
Shadowtesteris there any way to make a program always minimize to the system tray I have been using alltray but have to configure it to do that each time I run the program02:12
Lynouregogu: We have no idea what you need help with.02:13
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gogui wolud like to know how things should be installed and everything02:14
gogui like very much ubuntu linux02:14
goguit is much better than win02:14
Jucatogogu: there is a very helpful, beginner level, document installed with Kubuntu. It's called the Kubuntu Desktop Guide and can be found in the Help Center (K menu -> Help)02:15
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goguim usding ubuntu linux.wher can i find this doc?02:16
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excelsiorHello, I got little trouble on KDE, my resolution has been changed by a soft and i can't make it back to 1280*102402:16
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Jucatogogu: System -> Help I think. also, this is the #kubuntu channel for Kubuntu Linux. #ubuntu is the channel for Ubuntu02:17
Ace2016hi all02:17
goguthks02:17
Ace2016how do i start a failsafe x terminal from the terminal?02:17
Ace2016i mean a failsafe xserver02:17
Ace2016you know the very plain basic one with just a terminal02:17
Ace2016no kde or gnome or whatever02:17
Ace2016very basic02:18
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excelsiorwell, nobody to help ? I'm good for restarting X :-/02:19
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gaboi was just able to run Jcreator on wine, but the program is asking me for the route to JDK, i dont know where it is located..02:20
Ace2016so who do i get the basic xserver02:21
Ace2016the failsafe terminal one02:21
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Ace2016its what you get when there is no kde and stuff02:21
rapidexcelsior: to restart x press ctrl+alt+backspace02:21
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curtiscan anyone help me out with some Beryl weirdness?02:25
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Ace2016curtis: what beryl weirdness?02:26
korisnikin which repository can i find mplayer on kubuntu???02:26
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Ace2016winamp?02:27
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Ace2016korisnik: its in multiverse02:28
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curtisAce2016:  When I start Beryl, I get 18 desktops.  LOL02:28
korisnikAce2016: multiverse?02:28
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Ace2016curtis: what version of beryl and kde are you using? you might have to set the number of desktops in kde to 102:28
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korisnikthe thing i dont understand is when i add rep throu adpet_manager do i need to preform anyother action to get it working?02:29
korisniklike download gpg keys and stuff02:29
curtisAce2016 : 0.1.9999.2~0beryl02:29
curtisI have change KDE to 1 desktop, started Beryl and samething02:29
Ace2016korisnik: how about i just show you my sources list02:29
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korisnikthink i got it.. sec02:30
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Tm_Tbtse: Ping.02:31
Tm_TD'oh.02:31
Ace2016http://pastebin.ca/38090402:33
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Ace2016curtis: ask in #beryl or #kde they should be able to help you02:33
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Jucatoactually in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects02:34
curtisAce2016  thanks.  I just renamed the settings for beryl and started it back up.  Looks like it's working again :)02:34
Ace2016bye all02:36
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alexiconhey people. havent used apache for a couple years now. to change the port it listens on do i only have to change this ports.conf file now?02:37
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alexiconso it seems02:38
alexiconok02:38
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rbrunhuberalexicon: don't forget to restart/reload though02:41
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alexiconyep rbrunhuber :)02:41
mcscrufflo all02:41
alexiconhi mcscruff02:41
mcscruff1st off, kubuntu has improved soooo much since dapper02:41
mcscruffbut i still have 1 huge problem02:41
mcscruffnetwork manager doesnt work02:42
neutralossknetwork manager?02:42
mcscruffyea02:42
neutralossdoesn't install ?02:42
rapid_how should I install x chat? download the .deb ?02:42
mcscruffit fins my wifi, i put in the wep key and nout02:43
mcscruffrapid , sudo apt-get install xchat02:43
rapid_no such package itsays02:43
neutralossmake sure universe repo is enabled02:43
rapid_how ?02:43
mcscruffneutraloss: it comes installed on latest beta, but it will not connect, i have to to it the old fashioned command line way02:44
neutralossdoesn't work for either wired or wireless?02:45
rbrunhubermcscruff:  this can be quite tricky did you select the right method for wep key?02:45
rapid_neutraloss: how do i make sure universe repo is enabled.02:45
rbrunhubermcscruff: i mean ascii vs. hex?02:46
mcscruffrbrunhuber: yep, i have used it many times before02:46
mcscruffi will retry tho, brb02:47
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mcscruff_its working now, hmm02:48
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rapid_never mind I found it02:49
McScruffdoes anyone here use kopete for msn?02:49
rbrunhuberMcScruff: i do02:49
McScruffrbrunhuber: can u recieve files ok?02:50
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rbrunhuberMcScruff: Never tried this, sorry.02:50
McScruffall of them get to 100% then corrupt02:51
rapid_after modifying the /etc/apt/sources.list do you have to restart anything?02:51
McScruffsudo apt-get update02:51
rapid_ty02:52
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rbrunhuberMcScruff: So your knetworkmanager problem is "solved"?02:58
McScrufffor now :)02:59
rbrunhuberfine02:59
McScruffnext job is to remove these ghey madwifi drivers and put the latest in :O02:59
McScruffi love using VAP's03:00
rbrunhuberMcScruff: I'm so happy I have a intel card. No messing around with drivers in years.03:00
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McScruffrbrunhuber: i have an atheros card, no messing but i like to use aircrack and the normal drivers dont cut it03:01
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micahis anyone else having problems with their firefox randomly crashing?03:10
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rbrunhubermicah: Crashing or freezing?03:13
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micahjust altogether crashing03:15
micahno warning or anything03:15
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micahpossibly a gmail bug? because i usually keep it open03:15
ladykeidenfrom a terminal, how can i find out what is eating over 1gig of swap and all my cpu, and kill it?03:15
rbrunhuberladykeiden: top03:16
micahtry cmd top03:16
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McScruffmicah: i've never had a problem with gmail always being open03:16
micahi haven't either, until i a couple days ago03:17
micahi just made the switch to kubuntu from ubuntu, didn't know if it was an issue03:17
McScruffopen firefox from command line, then when it crashs u can see why03:17
micahah, ok03:18
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soonI've just installed kubuntu 6.10 from scratch on two machines - on one of them when I try to install Firefox (using Adept) I get BREAK - same thing if I try to istall LyX03:19
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soonany suggestions whats happening?03:20
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ladykeidenanyone know what rsvg-convert is and y it eats 1gig of swap?03:22
CShadowRuncan linux get viruses or something?03:22
CShadowRunmine seems to be a hell of alot slower than usual today03:22
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Jucato!virus | CShadowRun03:23
ubotuCShadowRun: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:23
CShadowRunthanks :)03:23
McScruff!windows | mcscruff03:23
McScrufflmao03:24
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CShadowRunlol03:24
CShadowRunanything similar to windows task manager?03:24
McScruffyes03:24
CShadowRunso i can see what processes are soaking up all my resources03:24
CShadowRunwhere is it? :P03:24
McScruffksysguard03:24
McScruffin system03:25
JucatoCShadowRun: Ctrl+Esc03:25
CShadowRunthanks03:25
CShadowRunctrl + escape brings up the k menu lol03:25
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JucatoO.o03:26
McScruffon an unrelated Q, does anyone use xbmc, who has also used myth tv03:26
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CShadowRunok thats weird im using ~20% cpu, and 211mb / 2gb ram...and its lagging03:27
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CShadowRunlol i lag less when i use beryl than if i don't03:29
CShadowRunslightly weird\cool03:29
McScruff:S03:29
CShadowRunseriously, no beryl and its choppy as hell, bringing up a dialog takes like 3 seconds03:29
CShadowRunrun beryl and it runs perfect03:29
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ComputerHermithey guess what my soundcard is not supported03:29
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Which brand/model?03:33
ComputerHermithang I got to look its not though but I'll show03:33
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: It often helps to try a search for the information you get from lspci -vv03:35
ComputerHermithttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311469&highlight=CS46xx03:35
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ComputerHermitCirrus Logic Sound Fusion CS46XX03:36
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: There is a driver provided in the standard kernel. Why didn't you use this?03:37
ComputerHermitIam useing 10.1103:38
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ComputerHermitIam not understanding03:38
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timsterHow can I reset my password on MySql?03:39
timsterdw03:39
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: In the post it looks like recompiled alsa?03:39
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Wasn't that you?03:40
ComputerHermitIam skywalker___03:40
ComputerHermitin the fourm03:40
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ComputerHermitdo a serch tag and type sund fun03:40
ComputerHermitsound fun03:40
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: What happens if you just try sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx?03:41
bordyheya folks... quick and easy question I should already know: How do I add a program I installed (Flock) to the actual menus?03:41
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ComputerHermitnotheoing03:41
ComputerHermitnotheing*03:42
ComputerHermitit just drops down03:42
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ComputerHermitback to @03:42
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: So this completed successful. try playing some sound now.03:43
ComputerHermitsudo -i03:43
ComputerHermitI'll try root03:43
soonI want the following command run at start up time: "iwpriv ath0 mode 2"   ... where should I put it?03:43
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: You do not need to. what does lsmod |grep cs46xx say?03:44
ComputerHermitI'l pm it to you03:44
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: ok03:44
ComputerHermitforget it03:46
ComputerHermitsnd_cs46xx             89448  003:47
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ComputerHermitgameport               17160  1 snd_cs46xx03:47
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ComputerHermitsnd_rawmidi            27264  1 snd_cs46xx03:47
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ComputerHermitsnd_ac97_codec         97696  1 snd_cs46xx03:47
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: So the module is loaded. No need to retry sudo -i.03:47
ComputerHermitsnd_pcm                84612  3 snd_cs46xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss03:47
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Still no sound?03:48
ComputerHermityep03:48
MetalCodeis there any application using the sound card?03:48
ComputerHermitbeen like this for weeks now I realy dont mind I was thinking of getting a new sound card\03:48
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Don't give up so easy :-)03:48
MetalCodethat includes flash03:49
ComputerHermitbecause what happend if I have to redo my pc and I'll have to go thrugh this  just to sert up sound03:49
ComputerHermitwell I realy miss sndconfig03:49
MetalCodeyour sound card might be blocked so disabling system sound through the KDE control center should help03:49
ComputerHermitIam in ub now03:50
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ComputerHermitnot ku I use ku all the time03:50
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: can you try ps ax|grep esound?03:50
ComputerHermit6864 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep esound?03:52
MetalCodeyour using GNOME?03:52
ComputerHermityea03:52
timster!phpmyadmin03:55
ubotuphpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB03:55
ComputerHermitIam going to reboot thanks guys03:56
ComputerHermitI'll try this commands  in ku03:56
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: this won't help you either i think03:56
ComputerHermitor try to work it their03:56
ComputerHermityea I know03:56
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Can you try two more commands?03:57
ComputerHermitsure!03:57
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Try ps ax |egrep "(arts|esd)"03:58
BluesKajhowdy all :)03:58
oemhowdy03:58
ComputerHermitroot@ComputerHermit:~# ps ax |egrep "(arts|esd)03:58
ComputerHermit>03:58
ComputerHermitthats what it does empty file03:59
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ComputerHermitor did I do it right?03:59
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: yes. It was right03:59
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ComputerHermitk03:59
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: It just means no soundserver is blocking the card.04:00
ComputerHermitahhh04:00
ComputerHermitwhy04:00
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Don't be insulted: But did you try the magic unmute the card and turn up the volume trick?04:00
kevin________:)04:00
kevin________i had that problem once04:01
ComputerHermityes04:01
guidenI'm doing a website and my pictures get all messed up, should I draw them as, what's that name again? it's not pixels but something else04:01
rbrunhubertry alsamixer04:01
ComputerHermittell me the trick04:01
kevin________guiden, png?04:02
ComputerHermitalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device04:02
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guidenno04:02
guidenit's something else04:02
guidenyou can enlarge them or shrink them without messing up the pixel04:02
micahguiden: vector04:02
guidenaha04:02
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guidenis it better to use vector?04:03
rbrunhuber!pastebin04:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:03
micahguiden: eventually if you're doing a website, you have to rasterize it at some point04:03
micahguiden: .jpgs usually work the best04:03
guidenok04:03
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Can you post the output of lspci -v to pastebin?04:03
micahguiden: just make sure they're of good quality04:04
ComputerHermitok04:04
guidenok04:05
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ComputerHermithttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8604/04:06
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renatohi, what is the command for adding a group to an account?04:06
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guidenmicah, jpeg 2000 was very very good04:07
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guidenjp204:07
morvokmorning all..04:07
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Is this a pci card? It does not show up in your lspci04:07
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ComputerHermitno its on-board04:08
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ComputerHermitI realy should reboot because I try to disable it in my bios I wasreading in the fourm I know what Iam doing so I'll just renable it brb ok thanks04:09
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guidenbut png was aslo good, no difference04:09
ComputerHermitpm me in the fourm or something04:09
ComputerHermitor I'll come back in here04:09
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: See you later. If you disabled it should be clear that it does not show up04:10
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ComputerHermitI04:10
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Come back here04:10
ComputerHermitok04:10
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renatohi, what is the command for  telling: the account xys belongs to the group " xxx"04:10
ComputerHermitthanks04:10
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renato?04:10
phichohi i want to install build-essential package to install my modem on kubuntu i tried with sudo apt-get instal build-essential and error aqure something like E:\can't find build-essential package pls help04:10
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phichoanyone?04:11
sidnelsonhi ... i using kate for perl code is so anoyning use the mouse to run a script, anyone know a shortcut for change the "edit area" to the terminal at bottom04:12
renatoI must have asked for the wordl.....04:12
Forgacius!build0essential04:12
Forgacius!build-essential04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build0essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:12
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Forgaciussid I don't think the terminal in kate is intended for an edit area04:13
rbrunhuberrenato: for your own user this works with groups04:14
sidnelsoni want to run a script in the terminal04:14
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sidnelsoni want a shotcut to change the cursor from the code to de terminal04:14
renatorbrunhuber, and for a generic user? is there a command or do I need to modify /etc/passwd?04:15
rbrunhuberrenato: or use groups [username] 04:15
fxrhi i need to use ktorrent 2.1 for a tracker m on.. where do i get the update? (i use xubuntu btw)04:15
rbrunhuberrenato: /etc/passwd will not help you the list is in /etc/group04:15
rbrunhuberrenato: for user root this would be groups root04:16
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renatorbrunhuber I need to set an account as belonging also to the group www-data, hpw do I do that?04:16
Jucatosidnelson: try asking in #kde04:17
renatook I found it... usermod04:17
rbrunhuberrenato: man adduser04:17
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rbrunhuberrenato: adduser user www-data04:18
phichobut i tried sudo apt-get install bulid-essential and it didn't work some errror "E:\ can't find build-essential package " so how can i download this package from a page and than manualy install ?04:18
McScruffwhere is the kde power management thing04:18
sidnelsonJucato: thnks04:19
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morvokmorning again..04:19
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Hi04:21
ComputerHermithi lol04:21
ComputerHermitIam in kde now04:21
Dr_willisHmm.. odd.. flash player was working . now its not.04:21
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ComputerHermitor kubuntu04:21
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Dr_willis!easysource04:22
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:22
phichohow can i downlad this 'build-essential' package form my windows partition and than install on kubuntu ? because i need the build-esssential package to install my modem04:22
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Did you reenable your sound card in bios?04:22
GrahamCan anyone give me a simple straight forward answer to this, I've mounted a samba share, it logs in and everything, but my linux user account  can't write to it, I have to use sudo, how do I fix that.04:23
ComputerHermityes04:23
Dr_willisphicho,  that will be a bit hard to do - since build-essential is a meta-package that installs a lot  of OTHER packageas04:23
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ComputerHermitI was wondering if I wil have to compile a driver04:24
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: You should not do this04:24
phichothx Dr_willis04:24
ComputerHermitgreat04:24
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Dr_willisGraham,  what is 'shareing' the samba share?04:24
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Can you repost lspic -v to pastebin?04:24
ComputerHermitok04:24
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GrahamDr_willis: Huh?04:25
McScruffwhere is the bit where i can set up the laptop lid?04:25
Dr_willisGraham,  you are going Linux samba server to linux client?04:26
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GrahamNo, it's a Windows server.04:27
Dr_willisGraham,  so the linux box.. going to the windows server share has read only access.04:28
c1|freakyhi all. how do i disable the bouncing cursor busy thingy in kde?04:28
ComputerHermitrburnhuber post sight plz Iam sorry I dident book it04:28
Dr_willisc1|freaky,  thats somewhere under 'launch feedback' check box.. but i forget where that box is at.. :)04:28
Jucatoc1|freaky: press Alt+F2, run "kcontrol" and look in Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback04:28
c1|freakyyea :\04:28
rbrunhuber!pastebin| ComputerHermit04:29
ubotuComputerHermit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:29
ComputerHermitty04:29
GrahamDr_willis: The share mounts properly and with root access I can read/write to/from it but my local user account can't write to it.04:29
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Dr_willisGraham,  what/how are you mounting it?04:30
c1|freakythx Jucato & Dr_willis :)04:30
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GrahamIn /etc/fstab: //server/Files /media/sf0 smbfs defaults,rw 0 004:30
ComputerHermithttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8610/04:30
GrahamThe user details are somewhere else, but they do work.04:31
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GrahamFor logging into the server.04:31
McScruffon latest herd 5, where is the power settings tab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:31
Dr_willisGraham,  Hmm..    well there may be some needed options for the permissions to get set properly. -  May want to check out that 'using samba book' im betting theres some extra setting thtats missing.04:32
Dr_willisbrb phone04:32
Grahamk04:33
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: Can you try sudo modprobe sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx again?04:36
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ComputerHermitok04:37
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: It will not give you any output if it succeeds04:38
ComputerHermitok04:38
ComputerHermitIam going to post04:38
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: did you get output?04:39
ComputerHermitwhen I did sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx it just droped down04:39
ComputerHermitto @04:40
ComputerHermitect..04:40
ComputerHermitwant me to post04:40
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ComputerHermit?04:40
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: That means it was successful04:40
ComputerHermitkool04:40
rbrunhuberComputerHermit: can you try alsamixer again?04:40
ComputerHermitok04:40
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: This should load without any complaints04:41
ComputerHermitiam in root will trhis mess this up?04:41
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ComputerHermitand I got a cig hanging out my mouth will this mess it up lol J/K04:41
ComputerHermitalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device04:42
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: mom04:42
troyhey, has anyone had any trouble moving from edgy to fiesty using apt?04:42
ComputerHermitmom ?04:42
troyfeisty* even...04:42
troymoment?04:42
ComputerHermitahh04:43
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Jucatohi troy! fancy seeing you here :)04:43
Jucatotroy: there's an #ubuntu+1 channel for Feisty04:43
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troyJucato: just wondering if there were any obvious upgrade breakages... I don't have anything special on my system :)04:44
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Jucatotroy: so far, haven't heard of problems yet04:45
troythat's all I needed to know - minor problems I can handle - makes me learn things :)04:45
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rbrunhuberComputerHermit: mom: one moment please04:46
ComputerHermityes :-)04:46
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Gizmo48Am I in the right place for KUBUNTU issues?04:47
NightBirdyes04:47
Jucatoyep04:47
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troyJucato: thanks, I'll try the upgrade, and hope it doesn't break my KDE 4 build environment somehow :)04:48
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Gizmo48OK, here it is.  Probably simple:  I JUST got my nvidia dual monitors to work.  But  now, several games and things open in the CENTER of BOTH monitors.  Not very useful.   Is there a way to tell an app which window to open in?04:49
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juampahola04:51
juampatengo un pequeo problema con un disco duro04:51
juampaes ide04:51
juampa180 gb04:51
juampael caso es que lo acabo de conectar y no me lo reconoce por ningun lado04:52
juampaalguna idea?04:52
NightBirdGizmo48, no idea... sorry04:52
juampano se si tendr q montarlo a algo asi04:53
juampapor defecto no lo reconoce04:53
juampaaunque en el arranque si me aparecia04:53
Jucato!es04:53
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:53
Jucato!pt04:54
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.04:54
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ComputerHermitrbrunhuber  > I got to step away for a sec>> afk04:55
rbrunhuberok04:56
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LL_Hakaisoucan someone help me with a serious error real quick?04:56
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Gizmo48OK, is there a way to temporarily suspend the second monitor?04:56
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hacked_kernelWhen opening an OpenGL screensaver it crashes???04:58
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arunkalehey people05:02
morphinexhey folks, i have a question about viewing pdf files in konqueror05:02
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luisglzhi! i'm having a little issue trying to connecto my laptop to a projector, can anyone help me?05:02
LL_Hakaisou!paste05:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:02
morphinexwhen I browse to a pdf file, the file is automagically opened in konqueror, but I have no option to save the file05:03
morphinexI've tried to direct konqueror to use an kpdf as an external viewing app with no sucess05:03
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LL_Hakaisoucan someone help me with this error?05:04
LL_Hakaisouhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8617/05:04
morphinexI also can't use the "save link as" option because the file that gets saved is just a plaintext html file or something, not the pdf05:04
LL_Hakaisousorry, but what does this mean?!05:04
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CShadowRunuhh does xwinwrap have a official download site or something?05:05
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arunkale!pdf05:05
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)05:05
CShadowRuni can only seem to find dogey forum links or blogs :(05:05
morphinexthe problem is that I can'05:06
arunkaledoes kpdf come built-in with kubuntu? can i view pdf files out of the box?05:06
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morphinexI can't save a pdf from within konqueror05:06
RadiantFireyes05:06
CShadowRun!xwinwrap05:06
RadiantFirekpdf is built in05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
RadiantFireyou should be able to05:06
arunkalecool05:06
CShadowRun:(05:06
morphinexhow?05:06
morphinexmy advisor is breathing down my neck for these pdfs ;)05:07
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okebonnehola05:07
okebonnecomo estas05:07
okebonnealguien de habla hispana!??05:08
miayo mismo05:08
okebonnebuenisimo05:08
okebonnebueno, por donde empiezo05:08
morphinexok, so a regular pdf like http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf works fine05:08
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okebonneesto es un chat de que?05:08
okebonnees algo nuevo q descubri de mi pc05:09
ComputerHermithey hey05:09
miabueno....es la primera vez que entro....supongo que del ubuntu05:09
morphinexbut I am using library databases, so when I click on a link it must take the browser through a number of intermediary steps before it hits the pdf05:09
okebonnea mira05:09
Erunno!es | okebonne05:09
ubotuokebonne: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:09
okebonneyo tambuien05:09
okebonnegracias ubotu05:09
okebonne:D05:09
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morphinexand in that case, I can't direct konqueror to open the pdf in an external app, and i can't save from within05:09
jan__what depency problems? :S05:09
miaui...pues mejor cambiar al hispano05:10
miacambio de canal05:10
miao vemos en el kubuntu-es05:10
okebonnedale05:10
ErunnoDoes anyone know if the metabar is supposed to be just an empty sidepanel with a kubuntu wallpaper on it ?05:10
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jayI want to install a deb package, but when I install it... my system reports the package as broken.. how can I install it so that the system does not report the package as broken. By forcing, not resolving?05:14
Gizmo48Jay - I think installing it will make things worse, sounds to me like there are some dependent files that would be replaced or altered.05:16
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jayno, no... the package works quite ok... dependencies not really needed that much05:17
jayI just wanna force it so that it won't be reported as broken05:17
jayI've already tried05:17
jaydpkg --force-all -i package.deb05:17
luisglzhey when i press fn-f5 to connect my laptop to a projector or external display my whole screen just screws up, can anyone help me?05:18
Gizmo48How do you know it works fine?05:18
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jayi'm installing "emesene", but it requires an