[12:15] <eagles0513875> !.fla
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <X704> ttyl :)
[12:16] <globe> cpk1: I am not trying to go there, I am trying to see if it is working.
[12:16] <snake_> what can i use to edit .fla files in kubuntu
[12:16] <Mena> glope, maybe there is a command on terminal but if you opened you partition editor if you see its mounted so its being using by kubuntu
[12:16] <cpk1> globe: well 'free -m' will give you info on memory usage
[12:17] <eagles0513875> !ext3
[12:17] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:17] <PF-Away> !xfs
[12:17] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[12:17] <eagles0513875> !jfs
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <eagles0513875> !reiserf
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reiserf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <PF-Away> !reiser
[12:17] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[12:17] <eagles0513875> !reiser
[12:17] <cpk1> globe: also 'fdisk -l' well tell you all your partition information (you might need to use sudo)
[12:18] <cpk1> will*
[12:18] <xBill> snake: .fla is a flash file - maybe your browser can open it (if you have a flash plugin)
[12:18] <globe> cpk1: 'free -m' shows zeros for Swap (total, used and free all zero).  This is what is making me think its not seeing it
[12:18] <Mena> cpki, if i make mu intel viga card to not take a memeory form my ram is that okay or will amke a apro or you dont knw :P
[12:19] <X704> ...
[12:19] <Mena> make*
[12:19] <X704> last question, what about Java?
[12:19] <cpk1> globe: does fdisk -l show a swap partition?
[12:20] <cpk1> !java | X704
[12:20] <ubotu> X704: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:20] <globe> cpk1: yep.
[12:20] <X704> hmm
[12:20] <cpk1> hrmm its probably turned off globe but I forget how to turn it back on =P
[12:20] <cpk1> globe: nevermind try swapon
[12:20] <cpk1> heh
[12:20] <X704> ok, thanks again :):):)
[12:20] <ubuntu> hi, i'm at installing kubuntu for the first time
[12:21] <Mena> X704, to install the whole java do this in terminal sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[12:21] <albertkopejkev> how large should the swap cache be?
[12:21] <albertkopejkev> i got 512 ram
[12:21] <yaccin> albertkopejkev: as large as your free hdd-space is ^^
[12:21] <Mena> a;bertkopjkev, i guess it might be 2xram
[12:21] <albertkopejkev> so, the bigger the better?
[12:22] <cpk1> albertkopejkev: how much ram do you have?
[12:22] <eagles0513875> how do i  unlock my cd drive
[12:22] <albertkopejkev> 512
[12:22] <eagles0513875> seems like when i was installing somethign usint wine it locked it
[12:22] <cpk1> albertkopejkev: then you should use abtou 1gig for swap
[12:22] <Mena> so make it 1 giga as i guess
[12:22] <cpk1> about*
[12:22] <albertkopejkev> thank you very much
[12:22] <BluesKaj> 1Gig swap is plenty
[12:22] <albertkopejkev> see you soon ;)
[12:22] <albertkopejkev> btw. i'm using linux for the first time
[12:23] <albertkopejkev> and i'm so much impressed
[12:23] <globe> cpk1: swapon -a => swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument <= (/hda5 is my swap)
[12:23] <gonow> hi
[12:23] <albertkopejkev> the possibility of using the system before installing it
[12:23] <albertkopejkev> way to go
[12:23] <albertkopejkev> cya
[12:23] <yaccin> globe: what filesystem is hda5?
[12:23] <xBill> eagles : maybe unmount it manually
[12:23] <yaccin> albertkopejkev: yes, theres a live cd with installer
[12:23] <eagles0513875> tired xbill but it says it busy
[12:23] <cpk1> globe: does /etc/fstab say /dev/hda5 is swap?
[12:23] <yaccin> you can use it and when you like install it and use it while the installation is running :)
[12:24] <globe> yaccin: Linux Swap / Solaris
[12:24] <yaccin> hmm
[12:24] <globe> cpk1: yep
[12:24] <xBill> eagles: sudo ps -ax | grep cdrom
[12:24] <gonow> wonders if the next version of ubuntu will have yahoo messenger in the pacage
[12:24] <cpk1> globe: then just try swapon -a
[12:25] <eagles0513875> says something bout bad syntax
[12:25] <yaccin> gonow: ubuntu: gnome, kubuntu: kopete
[12:25] <globe> cpk1: swapon -a => swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument <= (/hda5 is my swap)
[12:25] <yaccin> err
[12:25] <yaccin> ubuntu: gaim
[12:25] <xBill> eagles : did you run it from a terminal ?
[12:25] <cpk1> oh i see
[12:25] <cpk1> odd
[12:25] <gonow> ah i see
[12:25] <eagles0513875> yes even sudoed
[12:25] <cpk1> globe: cat /proc/swaps say anything?
[12:26] <globe> cpk1: nope...returns blank
[12:26] <xBill> eagles: ok, try sudo ps ax | grep cdrom (the same but without  the " - ")
[12:26] <gonow> the version of ubuntu i have is lts das it have nameserver dns server  stc becose i thinking of starting up a registry ie for tlds
[12:26] <eagles0513875> command not found
[12:27] <eagles0513875> xbill i think i know y its locked for some reason i mounted it multiple times
[12:27] <eagles0513875> once im done im going to have to restart it
[12:27] <cpk1> globe: what does it say in /etc/fstab for your swap partition?
[12:28] <globe> cpk1: (thanks for your help) /dev/hda5       4890   4998  875511    82      Linux Swap
[12:30] <cpk1> globe: ... that doesnt look like a correct entry at all
[12:30] <K`zan> Anyone here using a Netgear WG511v1 and WPA-PSK?
[12:31] <eagles0513875> how do i configure sendmail
[12:31] <eagles0513875> !sendmail
[12:31] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[12:31] <globe> cpk1: oh lol...that was fdisk -l ....
[12:31] <cpk1> oh that makes more sense =)
[12:32] <globe> cpk1: /dev/hda5    none (mount point)     swap (type)   sw (opt)    0 (dump)     0 (pass)
[12:32] <Shepard[Russia] > HHmm.
[12:32] <Shepard[Russia] > !kopete
[12:32] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[12:33] <cpk1> odd that is how it should be
[12:33] <cpk1> try swapoff
[12:33] <eagles0513875> shepard gaim is better
[12:33] <eagles0513875> !gaim |shepard
[12:33] <ubotu> shepard: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:33] <cpk1> kopete is better =P
[12:33] <Shepard[Russia] > eagles0513875, i more like SIM ;))
[12:33] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:33] <eagles0513875> what do u mean shep
[12:33] <yaccin> yes kopete <3
[12:34] <lonewolf1066> I dropped my laptop a small distance, so I don't think anything was harmed, but is there a way I can run a test to just make sure? Would fsck work, and if so, would I have to unmount the disk first?
[12:34] <Shepard[Russia] > sim-im.org ... Icq like prog
[12:34] <eagles0513875> kool
[12:34] <globe> cpk1: swapoff -a returns nothing
[12:34] <yaccin> lonewolf1066: dont need to unmount it
[12:34] <cpk1> lonewolf1066: smartmon tools might be better
[12:34] <yaccin> oh theres also meebo.com <3
[12:34] <cpk1> globe: ok i guess try turning it on now
[12:34] <lonewolf1066> cpk1: Thanks
[12:35] <globe> cpk1: yea, still same Invalid arg error.  Where is that disk manager program?
[12:35] <yaccin> qtparted?
[12:35] <eagles0513875> is there a way to ping port to see qhich one is open
[12:36] <cpk1> I wonder if it only likes uuids...
[12:36] <yaccin> cpk1: why did they switch to uuids?
[12:36] <yaccin> its more... complicated
[12:36] <globe> cpk1: It was uuids at one point.  A forum post suggested I change it back to the standard format
[12:36] <fyrmedic> Ok I am on a roll and don't want to ruin it. I got my wireless adaptor working, now I need to get my sound working. Any body got a link that will help?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> it fixes a lot of other issues in a flexable namor
[12:37] <cpk1> globe: yeah, I dont think you actually need uuids
[12:38] <tiHo> hi! see this site: _http://tattoo.clan.su   Free forum! (by Russia) (5 languages: russian, english, deutch, france,spain) ;) and #freeforum
[12:38] <xBill> eagles: you are searhing for nmap
[12:38] <cpk1> globe: try swapon -L /dev/hda5
[12:39] <globe> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-label//dev/hda5: No such file or directory
[12:39] <Dr_willis> by-label?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> thats.. odd
[12:40] <Shepard[Russia] > Tell me someone plz, what exacly .deb packages I need to install to play .mp3? Something like "libmpeg"?
[12:40] <Skrot> Any rsync (server) users around?
[12:40] <cpk1> Dr_willis: the whole thing is odd, his fstab has the correct entry and everything
[12:40] <Dr_willis> the kubuntu faq mentions the packages needed by various programs
[12:40] <Dr_willis> for mp3 playback
[12:40] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  yea.. weirdness
[12:41] <cpk1> wonder if mkswap would be worth a shot?
[12:41] <Shepard[Russia] > Dr_willis, ooopss.. Thank you!
[12:43] <globe> cpk1: qtparted shows /dev/hda5  filesystem as unknown.  is this right?
[12:43] <p1s> hi
[12:43] <sakura> hello
[12:43] <Shepard[Russia] > hi there
[12:43] <p1s> can someone help me?
[12:44] <cpk1> I would imagine that its wrong, but fdisk knows its swap...
[12:44] <p1s> i have a problem
[12:44] <Fogge> Just ask the question p1 :)
[12:44] <cpk1> you could just reformat the swap part if you are sure of it I suppose
[12:44] <p1s> and i cant find the andwer
[12:44] <p1s> :P
[12:44] <p1s> ok
[12:44] <p1s> so
[12:44] <p1s> i run linux from Vmware
[12:44] <p1s> and
[12:44] <albertkopejkev> is there a palm-desktop software for linux available?
[12:44] <fyrmedic> How do I figure out what chipset my soundcard is using. I have run lspci and others and can't figure it?
[12:44] <p1s> i can't instal VMware tools
[12:44] <cpk1> fyrmedic: lshw
[12:45] <p1s> he want to recompile kernel and say to me to give the locant to the
[12:45] <p1s> linux source
[12:45] <p1s> and i don't know where is it
[12:45] <p1s> :|
[12:45] <Shepard[Russia] > :) Similar sh*t at me..
[12:45] <cpk1> actually I dont think I can see my chipset with that either =P
[12:46] <globe> cpk1: is it okay that my swap is in an extended partition?
[12:46] <yaccin> p1s: he doesnt want to recompile your kernel
[12:46] <yaccin> p1s: he wants to compile the kernel modules
[12:46] <fyrmedic> cpk1, I'll give it a shot. Thanks
[12:46] <yaccin> theres an instruction for installin vmware tools
[12:46] <Shepard[Russia] > kernel headers, i suppose
[12:46] <yaccin> ill search the link, one moment
[12:46] <p1s> waccin: and what is the adress
[12:46] <lnxkde> sup guys
[12:46] <lnxkde> :)
[12:46] <cpk1> pretty sure mine is in an extended part too
[12:46] <p1s> but i dont know ehre is the adress
[12:46] <p1s> the heather
[12:47] <xBill> ps1: i guess the headers are not even installed
[12:47] <lnxkde> hey guys someone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??
[12:47] <p1s> do u know whre is it
[12:47] <p1s> where from can i instal then?
[12:47] <Shepard[Russia] > kernel.org? Dunno...(
[12:48] <xBill> ps1: try to install linux-headers-[your-kernel-version]  in the package manager
[12:48] <p1s> xBill i;m new in linux
[12:48] <yaccin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools?action=show&redirect=VmwareTools
[12:48] <p1s> what comand i must to wrote?
[12:48] <p1s> tks yacin
[12:48] <p1s> i look there now
[12:49] <xBill> ps1: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[12:50] <p1s> now i run sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:50] <p1s> home to work
[12:50] <p1s> 6h are from i still triw
[12:50] <p1s> i need for university
[12:50] <lnxkde> someone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??
[12:51] <lnxkde> I get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/
[12:52] <p1s> p1s@p1s:~$ sudo ./vmware-install.p
[12:52] <p1s> sudo: ./vmware-install.p: command not found
[12:52] <p1s> ???
[12:52] <Sanne> hi
[12:52] <yaccin> .pl
[12:52] <sakura> hello
[12:52] <yaccin> not .p
[12:52] <p1s> ??
[12:52] <p1s> why
[12:52] <yaccin> you can also do ./vmware-install.pl -d
[12:52] <yaccin> because its a .pl file not a .p
[12:53] <xBill> what about tab completion ?
[12:53] <intelikey> ok what does /etc/adjtime do just prezactly ?
[12:53] <p1s> same
[12:53] <p1s> do't work
[12:53] <comosicus> who is using gaim?
[12:53] <comosicus> i have a problem and i whant to solve it
[12:53] <yaccin> p1s: are you in the right folder?
[12:53] <Cyco> i am
[12:54] <Cyco> gaim
[12:54] <p1s> no :|
[12:54] <comosicus> good
[12:54] <p1s> no i saw
[12:54] <MegaVolt> got a dual monitor kubuntu problem: when i check "align to grid" all icons from my secondary screen, which is left of my primary one, get shifted to the primary. icon setup on primary screen gets messed up in the process
[12:54] <MegaVolt> any ideas?
[12:54] <p1s> hoq can i go to cd-rom: cd media?
[12:54] <xBill> ps1: should'n perl scripts be executed by perl [name-of-the-script]  ??
[12:54] <p1s> cd cd-rom ?
[12:54] <yaccin> cd /dev/cdrom
[12:54] <yaccin> or
[12:54] <yaccin> cd /media/cdrom
[12:54] <yaccin> ^^
[12:54] <comosicus> i whant to add a buddy and gaim said that the id is not on a server list
[12:55] <intelikey> yeah you can't cd into a device node.
[12:55] <sakura> while we're on cd-roms, when i insert one, KDE pops up a window to system:/media/cdrom or something
[12:55] <sakura> and it shows up blank, and i have to manually go to /media/cdrom to see it
[12:57] <p1s> p1s@p1s:/media/cdrom$ sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[12:57] <p1s> sudo: ./vmware-install.pl: command not found
[12:57] <p1s> cand undertsnat
[12:57] <intelikey> nobody knows what /etc/adjtime is/does/'is for' ?
[12:57] <EADG02> Any idea how I can pipe irc channel talk from irrsi into KTTSMgr/Festival so I can "listen" to irc?
[12:58] <albert> hi, can anybody tell me a good software page, for linux?
[12:58] <intelikey> p1s not executable
[12:58] <p1s> :|
[12:58] <intelikey> p1s disk mounted 'noexec' ?
[12:58] <ubuntu> does the herd5 installer support upgrading my 6.10?
[12:58] <joshjosh> how can i find out which herd i'm running?
[12:58] <lnxkde> someone here uses 1400x900 resolution (widescreen) on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??
[12:58] <lnxkde> I get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/
[12:59] <yaccin> there is no herd 5 or am i wrong?
[12:59] <yaccin> o.O
[12:59] <p1s> is
[12:59] <intelikey> joshjosh herd... ?     lsb_release -a
[12:59] <p1s> p1s@p1s:/cdrom$ ls
[12:59] <yaccin> !herd4
[12:59] <ubotu> To download Feisty Fawn Herd 5, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[12:59] <p1s> bug-sles10
[12:59] <p1s> bug-sles10.objects.vmxnet.o
[12:59] <yaccin> oh
[12:59] <p1s> b.vmware-tools.modules.binary.bld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586debug-sles10
[12:59] <p1s> ld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586kdump-sles10
[12:59] <yaccin> :D
[12:59] <p1s> ld-2.6.16.21-0.8-i586smp-sles10
[12:59] <p1s> les10.objects.vmxnet.o
[12:59] <p1s> ult-sles10.objects.vmdesched.o
[12:59] <p1s> jsut his i have i ncdrom
[12:59] <p1s> why?
[12:59] <p1s> i mont good
[12:59] <globe> hey...whoever was helping me with my swap, its fixed.  I decided to restart and now I show free space in the swap.  thx
[12:59] <heretic> not 1400 but 1650x1080 for my 20" widescreen lnxkde
[12:59] <lnxkde> heretic:
[01:00] <ubuntu> does the herd5 installer support upgrading my 6.10?
[01:00] <lnxkde> heretic can I show my xorg.conf?
[01:00] <yaccin> ubuntu: just do a dist-upgrade
[01:00] <heretic> yap
[01:00] <lnxkde> heretic: or can u send me yours
[01:00] <intelikey> p1s so is it mounted 'noexec' ?
[01:00] <p1s> sudo mount /dev/cdrom ~/Desktop/vmware-tools-distrib
[01:00] <p1s> like tihs i monted
[01:01] <Cyco> does anyone know of a way to troubleshoot init scripts, i am running edgy and my startup is getting hung at rc.local....If I hit enter it goes directly to login which is fine but just looking to solve this annoyance
[01:02] <Cyco> i have sysv-rc-config and have disabled usplash amongst others and had no problems, only started hanging when i took quiet out of grub entry so i can see startup
[01:02] <Rajura> How do you get Java to work
[01:02] <Rajura> or err rather install
[01:03] <intelikey> p1s if that flood eariler (which you should never repete) is the full list then there is no file named *.pl
[01:03] <heretic> lnxkde use one of that websites to show us your xorg.conf
[01:03] <p1s> ok
[01:03] <p1s> sory for flood
[01:04] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me understand as to y when i try to install a multi cd game after the 1st cd it locks the drive and i cant eject it to put in the next one
[01:04] <eagles0513875> this is using wine btw
[01:04] <heretic> argh i cant remeber the name of one of these sites
[01:04] <intelikey> p1s to prevent flooding always use a pastebin for things like that
[01:04] <intelikey> !pastebin | p1s
[01:04] <ubotu> p1s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <eagles0513875> does anyone know much bout wine
[01:05] <p1s> ubotu: ok, sory one more time
[01:05] <p1s> is a bot, stupid me
[01:05] <intelikey> !thanks | p1s
[01:05] <ubotu> p1s: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:06] <heretic> there you go lnxkde
[01:06] <p1s> ok
[01:06] <p1s> i run sudo ./vmware-install.p
[01:06] <p1s> but now ask me:
[01:06] <p1s> In which directory do you want to install the binary files?
[01:06] <p1s> [/ps1/bin] 
[01:07] <lnxkde> heretic:  sorry my connection died
[01:07] <yaccin> just hinter enter
[01:07] <lnxkde> heretic: hey can we priv msg?
[01:07] <yaccin> *hit enter
[01:07] <p1s> okk
[01:07] <yaccin> p1s: defaults are always right on ubuntu :)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: try in #wine
[01:07] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: try in #winehq, sorry
 p1s: defaults are always right on ubuntu :) <<<  lol    good one yaccin    :)
[01:08] <eagles0513875> in there but no help there either
[01:10] <cpk1> eagles0513875: are you running wine from inside the cd directory?
[01:10] <heretic> lnkde: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to show us your xorg.conf
[01:12] <Rajura> Someone tell me how do you get java to work with firefox
[01:12] <Rajura> automatrix is down soo err
[01:13] <andres> hello
[01:13] <eagles0513875> !automatrix
[01:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:13] <p1s> back
[01:13] <p1s> ok
[01:13] <p1s> it work :D
[01:13] <p1s> tks all
[01:13] <andres> !serverlist
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serverlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <eagles0513875> !WorksForMe
[01:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:14] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:14] <eagles0513875> !lol
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <eagles0513875> cpk yes im running it from inside the cd directory
[01:14] <andres> how can i do to save my name?
[01:14] <cpk1> eagles0513875: dont do that =P
[01:14] <eagles0513875> ok lol it just hit me
[01:15] <cpk1> eagles0513875: wine /media/cdrom0/some.exe
[01:15] <andres> !rules
[01:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:15] <andres> how can i do to protect my name ?
[01:15] <eagles0513875> nothign happened
[01:15] <fyrmedic> I am trying to install alsa from source. When I try and install the utils package it gives an error that it requires curses. Aside from mine, ;) what is that?
[01:16] <intelikey> !register | andres
[01:16] <ubotu> andres: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:16] <lnxkde> someone here uses widescreen resolution on Nvidia card with Nvidia 9746 driver??
[01:16] <lnxkde> I get a huge resolution when I use nvidia drivers and my xorg.conf seems allright :/
[01:17] <eagles0513875> ty cpk hopefully i can get this installed
[01:17] <cpk1> eagles0513875: what game is this?
[01:17] <andres> what can i do to add more channels , ,notr only the ubuntu channels , cause i'm conected with the server of ubuntu
[01:17] <eagles0513875> world of warcraft
[01:17] <dewey> good day mates
[01:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:17] <Cyco> lnxkde does your xorg log post any errrors?
[01:17] <lnxkde> Cyco nope :/
[01:17] <cpk1> ok then you shouldnt have too many problems
[01:17] <intelikey> andres   /join #some_channel
[01:18] <Cyco> is your res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <lnxkde> Cyco: maybe is something with the modes
[01:18] <eagles0513875> then another think i have an issue with cpk is the graphics
[01:18] <lelle> lnxkde: I tried a new 22" widescren mon. with a windows computer (nvidia card and latest driver) ... and it would not understand 1680x1050 ...
[01:18] <lnxkde> Cyco: yep
[01:18] <lnxkde> :/
[01:18] <Cyco> do you have custom modelines ?
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> lelle: !X
[01:18] <Cyco> what resolution and what gen card?
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> !X | lelle
[01:18] <ubotu> lelle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:19] <lelle> and when I created the res. it would turn out "gigantic" .. scrolling
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> follow the link, it will show you how to fix it
[01:19] <lnxkde> Cyco:  ModeLine     "1400x900" 104.2 1400 1480 1632 1864 900 901 904 932 -hsync +vsync
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wait, haha, nvm
[01:19] <Sanne> fyrmedic: most likely you need a development package of the ncurses library. I don't know the exact name, you can try to find the package name at oackages.ubuntu.com or  'apt-cache search curses'. Look for a package with '-dev' at the end.
[01:19] <lnxkde> Cyco:
[01:19] <lnxkde>    SubSection     "Display"
[01:19] <lnxkde>         Depth       8
[01:19] <lnxkde>         Modes      "1400x900"
[01:19] <lnxkde>     EndSubSection
[01:20] <Sanne> fyrmedic: sorry, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <lnxkde> weeeeeeeeeee kubuntu is here
[01:20] <Cyco> that is at depth 8j
[01:20] <intelikey> depth 8  ???  256 colour ?
[01:20] <Cyco> do you have that res at higher depth?
[01:20] <lelle> so not even nvidias win-driver seems to like w.s-resolutions
[01:20] <eagles0513875> cpk is there a way i can get my mesa glx to change from indirect to direct
[01:20] <kubuntu> hi room im new to this whole linux thing and i need help getting a dvd to work
[01:20] <lnxkde> Cyco: sorry yeah
[01:20] <Cyco> haha ok
[01:20] <Cyco> just checking
[01:20] <lnxkde> Depth       24
[01:20] <eagles0513875> i tried the binary drivers only screwed up ubuntu
[01:20] <yaccin> kubuntu: http://videolan.org/libdvdcss
[01:21] <Cyco> does your res work with vesa driver?
[01:21] <yaccin> install the latest release :)
[01:21] <yaccin> and dvd should work ^^
[01:21] <eagles0513875> tried everything imaginable to get the glx to work
[01:21] <lnxkde> Cyco: yep
[01:21] <kubuntu> k
[01:21] <cpk1> i dont know anything about ati cards, never had one
[01:21] <kubuntu>  thx
[01:21] <fyrmedic> Sanne; THanks I get fat fingers too,  ;)
[01:21] <Sanne> fyrmedic: hehe :). I'm helping you search right now, btw.
[01:21] <heretic> lelle: you can manually set a widescreen resolution with the nvidia win driver
[01:22] <intelikey> just a note.  my nvidia will do depth 15 but not depth 16  on any rez.   depth 24 also works on all.    so you might need to avoid depth 16 on some nvidia cards
[01:22] <lnxkde> heretic:  can u send me ur xorg.conf?
[01:22] <eagles0513875> but use PASTEBIN
[01:22] <lnxkde> Cyco: and u? use nvidia?
[01:22] <Cyco> yes
[01:22] <heretic> i havent got any probs with my ws screen under linux or win... both recognize the screen correctly
[01:22] <eagles0513875> anybody know much bout ati cards
[01:22] <Cyco> 1680x1050
[01:22] <Cyco> NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9631
[01:22] <lnxkde> Cyco: if u send me your xorg.comnf
[01:22] <Cyco> older direct from nvidia site
[01:23] <eagles0513875> cpk i still cant eject the cd
[01:23] <andres> hey , i tried to install ubuntu with the live cd , so i put the live cd in my cd room and i restarted my computer , after thata the live cd showed me some options ! , i started "stard or install" after that was loading and later my screen turn black, and nothing happened , why ?
[01:23] <lnxkde> I will be happy as he;; '_
[01:23] <heretic> take it lnxkde
[01:23] <lnxkde> happy as hell ;)
[01:23] <Sanne> fyrmedic: I suspect it is libncurses5-dev.
[01:23] <eagles0513875> cpk can we talk in private
[01:23] <lnxkde> heretic: I dont see the file :/
[01:23] <lelle> yep, and it became larger and scrolled ... after trying every option in the more advanced settings, it eventually worked ... it felt exactly like making a modeline actually ... did not expect that from win
[01:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:23] <lnxkde> intelikey: :p
[01:23] <lnxkde> intelikey: hehehe
[01:23] <heretic> moo
[01:24] <kubuntu> how do i install firefox in kubuntu?
[01:24] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:24] <kubuntu> do i download the tar file or is there another way
[01:24] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:24] <eagles0513875> that is the way
[01:24] <eagles0513875> in the terminal kubuntu
[01:24] <heretic> lnxkde: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8480/
[01:24] <eagles0513875> !apt-get |kubuntu
[01:24] <ubotu> kubuntu: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:24] <lnxkde> heretic: thanlx man
[01:25] <Rajura> how do you install java on kubuntu
[01:25] <CVirus> !java
[01:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:25] <CVirus> Rajura: ^
[01:26] <andres> can i install the beryl without install ubuntu , only running with the live cd?
[01:26] <heretic> Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier. <- works here without any problems
[01:27] <eagles0513875> cpk help me
[01:27] <Cyco> lnxkde did this work with older versions of nvidia?
[01:27] <Sanne> fyrmedic: You can also look at the build-depends of the corresponding ubuntu package. Here, for example, is the dsc (description?) file for alsa-utils. Look at the line 'Build-Depends': http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.11-6ubuntu2.dsc
[01:27] <Sanne> fyrmedic: might give you a good idea of the package names you need.
[01:27] <fyrmedic> Sanne; the -dev hint seems to have worked.  Thanks alot
[01:28] <kubuntu> my konsole says i installed firefox where do i find/use it?
[01:28] <Sanne> fyrmedic: you're welcome :)
[01:28] <eagles0513875> cpk i ran the wine eject command and took out the first cd and put in the 2nd one and it didnt work for me it seems like its not recognizing the 2nd cd
[01:28] <lnxkde> Cyco: yea older drivers
[01:28] <lnxkde> :/
[01:28] <intelikey> krap that is imbaressing.   i actually was root that time....   eeeek.
[01:28] <lnxkde> but this driver worked on fedora
[01:28] <Cyco> werid may be a bug - this is why i am using older version
[01:29] <lnxkde> with the default utility nvidia brigs
[01:29] <Cyco> my card crapped with latest
[01:29] <intelikey> one tty to far left and one ought not irc ...
[01:29] <lnxkde> Cyco: heretic thankx a lot
[01:29] <lnxkde> I have to go
[01:29] <lnxkde> my gf is calling me
[01:29] <lnxkde> :s
[01:29] <Cyco> good luck
[01:29] <lnxkde> bye guys
[01:29] <Cyco> checkc nvidia forums
[01:30] <Cyco> !
[01:30] <lnxkde> I think I have found the problem
[01:30] <heretic> hf with your gf  :)
[01:30] <Cyco> hahah  see ya
[01:30] <lnxkde> see ya
[01:30] <lnxkde> thankx
[01:30] <eagles0513875> lucky u i wish mine would call me
[01:30] <Rajura> !Multiverse repository
[01:30] <Rajura> !Multiverse
[01:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:30] <intelikey> monkey see monkey do.    except; in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"
[01:31] <Rajura> !java
[01:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:31] <eagles0513875> anyone have any idea y wine wont recognize the 2nd cd after i eject it using wine eject
[01:31] <eagles0513875> and put in 2nd one but it wont recognize 2nd cd
[01:32] <eilker> !mencoder
[01:32] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[01:32] <intelikey> eagles0513875 no never been there.  but did you try mounting it?   i don't know if that would help there or not.   also does wine have a mount command...
[01:33] <eagles0513875> dunno
[01:33] <eagles0513875> im a wine noob
[01:33] <intelikey> i'm no wine-O myself...
[01:33] <eilker> is mencoder a graphical thing ?
[01:34] <Rajura> !codec
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <Rajura> !codecs
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <Rajura> damn it isnt there like an all in one install for the most common used codecs?
[01:34] <eilker> rajura: my problem is different
[01:35] <heretic> you could use vlc Rajura
[01:36] <lelle> and mplayer does .wmv native now in the 1.0 version .. (probably the most wanted win32codecs) .. but i don't know if works just as good?
[01:37] <Sanne> Rajura: those nost commonly used codecs are mostly also proprietary and can't legally be shipped with ubuntu. So you have to work a bit  for getting them, but the page ubotu gave should help with that.
[01:37] <intelikey> Rajura for the free formats.  they will play natively.  but there is this thing called "copy rights and patens"  that prevent FOSS form providing the non-free ones.
[01:39] <intelikey> .ogg   :)
[01:40] <intelikey> ogg beets mp3 hands down.
[01:41] <eagles0513875> but what if u use 320 bit rate and mp3 format
[01:42] <yaccin> what then?
[01:42] <yaccin> youve get a laaarge mp3 file...
[01:42] <intelikey> change it to ogg vorbis   heh
[01:42] <Fogge> All hell will break loose!
[01:42] <yaccin> ogg ftw
[01:43] <eagles0513875> technically would flac be the best since its losless
[01:44] <eagles0513875> only downside to it is file size
[01:44] <yaccin> but very large files
[01:44] <yaccin> ^^
[01:44] <eagles0513875> ya but wat bout vry high quality mp3's using 32bitrate
[01:44] <yaccin> what about them?
[01:44] <intelikey> "320 bit rate"  ???    Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~112000 bps    what means "320 bit rate" ?
[01:44] <yaccin> 320 kbps
[01:44] <eagles0513875> ya
[01:44] <eagles0513875> sry
[01:44] <eagles0513875> wine is driving me insane
[01:44] <phillermann> heyho
[01:45] <intelikey> ok slightly higher than cda
[01:45] <yaccin> intelikey: i mostly use 190 - 320 kbps VBR
[01:45] <yaccin> ^^
[01:46] <eagles0513875> i use 320kbps mp3 format
[01:46] <intelikey> ~112000 bps is form cda
[01:47] <phillermann> any clues on how to put a hdd with a working installation of ubuntu into a complete different PC and get the installation back working?
[01:47] <phillermann> is that even possible?
[01:47] <Sanne> phillermann: should be, most hardware will be auto detected by the kernel
[01:47] <intelikey> phillermann not even hard.   adjust the boot loader and the fstab to reflect the new addressing.
[01:48] <eagles0513875> this is bs
[01:48] <yaccin> intelikey: which IS hard for a beginner ^_^
[01:48] <intelikey> yaccin no.   compiling wine for a 64bit system is hard.
[01:49] <yaccin> dunno :D
[01:49] <Sanne> eagles0513875: maybe you could get info or help here? http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[01:49] <eagles0513875> I HATE WINE
[01:49] <yaccin> i dont have 64 bit ^^
[01:49] <eagles0513875> ty sanne
[01:49] <yaccin> i hate 64 bit
[01:49] <yaccin> :D
[01:49] <yaccin> and ati
[01:49] <yaccin> ^^
[01:49] <eagles0513875> lol i hate ati
[01:49] <Sanne> eagles0513875: yw :)
[01:49] <eagles0513875> and im starting to hate compaq and amd
[01:49] <yaccin> i think most linux users hate ati
[01:49] <yaccin> XD
[01:49] <intelikey> yaccin only the ones that have ati cards..
[01:50] <yaccin> well most of them also hate ati
[01:50] <yaccin> :D
[01:50] <yaccin> at leasdt i hate the card in my notebook
[01:50] <yaccin> :D
[01:50] <Sanne> eagles0513875: it might very well be some incompatibility between wine and your game. Wine doesn't claim to be able to run every windows software and every installer yet.
[01:50] <phillermann> ok, sounds possible... :-) so there's no need to reinstall or "repair installation" stuff like i would have tried on windows? (i'm a convert *g*)
[01:50] <eagles0513875> ive seen world of warcraft installed with it
[01:50] <eagles0513875> and run on linux
[01:51] <yaccin> eagles0513875: which game do you want to run?
[01:51] <eagles0513875> world of warcraft
[01:51] <Mark_> how do i get mp3's to play
[01:51] <yaccin> one moment ill search the installation instruction ^^
[01:51] <phillermann> thanks, Sanne and intelikey. have a good night/day/whatevertimeitisrightnowatyourplace...
[01:51] <Sanne> phillermann: i would just try. You just should read up a bit about the grub bootloader, what to change, wich files and so on...
[01:51] <yaccin> eagles0513875: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=worldofwarcraft
[01:52] <yaccin> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-246098.html
[01:52] <yaccin> use the last one
[01:52] <yaccin> ^^
[01:52] <eagles0513875> ty yaccin
[01:52] <Steven_J_M> Hi all
[01:52] <intelikey> phillermann should be as simple as changing the info in /boot/grub/devices  and /boot/grub/menu.lst     and setting the correct addressing in /etc/fstab    that's all that should be affected    other than possably reconfiguring x   which is no biggy.
[01:52] <Sanne> phillermann: maybe even try and be online here so we can help if need be :)
[01:52] <Mark_> how do i run mp3's in linux
[01:52] <yaccin> Mark_: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:53] <intelikey> !mp3 | Mark_
[01:53] <ubotu> Mark_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <phillermann> sure thing! i'll give it a try when the new notebook has arrived and will come back to your offer...
[01:53] <phillermann> see ya
[01:53] <Mark_> thx but my konsole says the file is not available
[01:53] <Sanne> phillermann: bye :)
[01:53] <intelikey>           - But please use free formats if you can:
[01:53] <intelikey>           https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <intelikey> "if you can"   heh you can.
[01:55] <intelikey> no one is holding a sword to anyones neck and forcing them to use mp3 format.    not even forcing you to use a computer....
[01:55] <Mark_> i kno but i just switched form win to linux
[01:55] <Mark_> and i have 5+ GB of mp3's
[01:56] <betrayer> hi
[01:56] <eagles0513875> what u tryign to do mark
[01:56] <Mark_> play mp3's in amaroK
[01:56] <yaccin> Mark_: i have ~30 GB :P
[01:56] <Sanne> Mark_: you can also try xmms media player, it should play them out of the box.
[01:56] <Mark_> good 4 u?
[01:56] <intelikey> i was just commenting on  >>> - But please use free formats if you can:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats   <<< and you can!
[01:56] <eagles0513875> u want to convert to diff formats
[01:56] <yaccin> Mark_: start amarok and try playing them, there should be a window popping up for isntall mp3 support
[01:56] <eagles0513875> mark
[01:57] <Master_Kale> Automatix2 won't run because I'm using Kubunut :(
[01:57] <Master_Kale> Kubuntu*
[01:57] <Mark_> no thx i want to keep them in mp3
[01:57] <yaccin> else install libxine-extracodecs
[01:57] <Mark_> i tryed it gave me an error
[01:57] <intelikey> kay oo boo nut ?
[01:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:57] <eagles0513875> install amarok and play them in there and install the mp3 support
[01:58] <Mark_> it says the package isnt available
[01:58] <Sanne> converting mp3 to ogg will increase the loss, won't it, since both introduce different losses due to compression (although ogg *is very* superiour, when converted from a lossless file like wav)
[01:58] <yaccin> you have multiverse repo enabled?
[01:58] <intelikey> Mark_ what flavour of ubuntu are you running ?
[01:58] <intelikey> !edgy
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:58] <Mark_> kubuntu 6.06 i
[01:59] <intelikey> !dapper
[01:59] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:59] <intelikey> ok
[02:01] <Mark_> any help?
[02:01] <intelikey> Mark_ using that for a patern adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list   enabling the needed repositories
[02:01] <eagles0513875> u try amarok mark
[02:01] <intelikey> or just use that one.
[02:01] <Steven_J_M> I've mucked up my edgy installing my running dpg-reconfigure -a Is there anyway of getting the Edgy livecd to restore the default configs without having to without reinstall my whole system?
[02:01] <Mark_> its installed
[02:02] <Mark_> but it dosnt play
[02:02] <yaccin> Mark_: restart amarok
[02:02] <yaccin> and really restart, also close the icon in the system tray
[02:02] <Mark_> k i just killed it
[02:02] <intelikey> after you change the sources.list  sudo apt-get update    and then start your adept package manages.   you should be able to install what you want/need
[02:03] <Mark_> change the sources list?
[02:03] <intelikey> yep
[02:03] <Mark_> wht command is that?
[02:03] <yaccin> Mark_: just try if it works now
[02:03] <yaccin> ^^
[02:04] <Mark_> nope :(
[02:04] <yaccin> then open konsole
[02:04] <Mark_> k
[02:04] <Mark_> open
[02:04] <yaccin> type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <yaccin> (without the "
[02:04] <Mark_> k
[02:05] <yaccin> enter password ^^
[02:05] <Mark_> ok
[02:05] <yaccin> search a line which contains universe and begins with a deb
[02:05] <yaccin> add a space after the last word in that line and add multiverse
[02:06] <yaccin> hit ctrl + x, y to save and enter
[02:06] <Mark_> it dosnt say anything
[02:06] <intelikey> or... add         universe multiverse             to the end of the first line that is not commented out....
[02:06] <Steven_J_M> anyone?
[02:06] <Mark_> it says GNU nono 1.3.10
[02:06] <Mark_> and it gives me shortcuts at the bottom
[02:06] <yaccin> hmm
[02:07] <yaccin> be sure you typed /etc/apt/sources.list right
[02:07] <Mark_> yeh
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> could do Ctrl + O
[02:07] <Mark_> File: ect/apt/sources.list
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> enter
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ctrl + X
[02:07] <Steven_J_M> any ideas?
[02:07] <yaccin>  /etc not etc
[02:08] <intelikey> Steven_J_M you can fix is the way you messed it up   dpkg-reconfigure -a
[02:08] <Mark_> ok
[02:08] <intelikey> ect/apt/sources.list != /ect/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <Mark_> OK
[02:09] <Mark_> now it says stuff
[02:09] <yaccin> so add the multiverse to a universe repo, save and close the file
[02:10] <intelikey> uncomment as needed...
[02:11] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: but it will obiviously make the wrong choises again and leave X screwed up etc.
[02:11] <Mark_> ok
[02:12] <Mark_> now wht?
[02:12] <intelikey> yaccin you do realize that just adding multiverse to a line that contains universe will not nesseccarly help him don't you.    you should have him pastebin the finished work.
[02:12] <yaccin> intelikey: im not good at explaining that in english, sorry ^^
[02:12] <intelikey> Steven_J_M if xorg is all that is misconfigured why not just copy the old config over the new one?
[02:14] <intelikey> yaccin before you started with that i tried to send him a sources.list  i guess firewall got in the way...   i've been down that particular road so many times that i know most bumps by hart.
[02:15] <Mark_> i think i need ot install libxine-extracodecs
[02:15] <intelikey> it's so much easier to just dcc them a working sources.list and say   put it in /etc/apt/   and update.
[02:16] <Mark_> but my terminal says its not available, but is referred to by another package
[02:16] <intelikey> Mark_ yes that's why 'we' had you working on your sources.list
[02:16] <HymnToLife> intelikey, or having one up somewhere ant tell them to wget it :)
[02:16] <yaccin> intelikey: i have a highly costumized sources.list for feisty :/
[02:16] <intelikey> HymnToLife that would work.   but having it on a pastebin will add M$ markup
[02:17] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: other things are messed up to, the terminal font for example. I just don't understand how running dpkg-reconfigure again will different to last time.
[02:17] <HymnToLife> not on a pastebin, for example I still have a Dapper one at http://fkraiem.free.fr/sources.list_dapper
[02:18] <Mark_> so what do i do?
[02:18] <intelikey> yaccin now, no excuses  :)
[02:18] <Mark_> all this work just for an mp3?
[02:19] <yaccin> Mark_: alt+f2
[02:19] <yaccin> Mark_: enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (without the " again)
[02:20] <yaccin> hit control+A then hit Del
[02:20] <intelikey> Mark_ all this work ?    heh   edit one file  (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)   run two command  (sudo apt-get update)   and  (sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs)      is all this work ?
[02:20] <Master_Kale> is there a way to get Automatix2 to work with Kubuntu?
[02:20] <yaccin> in your webbrowser open http://bennid.de/files/linux/ << ddapper drake sources.list
[02:20] <Sanne> Mark_: mp3 is proprietary, can't be shipped with Ubuntu. And you have to learn to edit your sources.list and adding repositories anyhow.
[02:20] <yaccin> copy the content from the dapper sources.list into kate
[02:20] <yaccin> save it
[02:21] <yaccin> then open up konsole again
[02:21] <intelikey> yaccin you might as well get this edgy one too
[02:21] <yaccin> ah
[02:21] <yaccin> im out for a smoke ^^
[02:21] <Steven_J_M> mp3's worked out of the box for me
[02:21] <Dr_willis> me to.. but i install  linuxMint. :)
[02:22] <intelikey> Steven_J_M not on dapper they didnt   edgy was the first release with libxine-extracodecs
[02:22] <Mark_> where do i get the source.list?
[02:23] <intelikey> Mark_ it only needs 3 lines  here i'll flood the channel for you.
[02:23] <eagles0513875> dont inteli paste bin
[02:23] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse restricted
[02:23] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse restricted
[02:23] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse restricted
[02:24] <eagles0513875> that isnt flooding chanel
[02:24] <intelikey> that should be all you need.
[02:24] <intelikey> it isn't chanel either.
[02:24] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: I used to run dapper, maybe they got installed as a dependancy to something else.
[02:25] <intelikey> Steven_J_M yeah or maybe you installed codecs and forgot about it...   idk  but on dapper drake and prior you can not play mp3 formats without installing beyond the defaults
[02:27] <eagles0513875> howbrb
[02:27] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: can you please explain how running dpkg-reconfigure will be any different this time around?
[02:27] <Mark_> OMFG it worked!
[02:27] <Ciberya> Is there an Automatix for kubuntu PPC?
[02:27] <intelikey> Steven_J_M or maybe you installed them while trying to get flac/mp4/avi support ?
[02:27] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: maybe
[02:28] <intelikey> Steven_J_M that's the command to fix xorg.   you answer the questions correctly and it should work.   but like i asked why not just copy the old config over the new one.   dpkg-reconfigure will make a backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf* file.
[02:29] <intelikey> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf?* /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:29] <Mark_> thx a-bunch
[02:29] <igorjr> hi
[02:30] <igorjr> i have a question about the adept manager
[02:30] <igorjr> i tried to download the libxine-extracodecs package
[02:30] <igorjr> but the search function doesn't find it
[02:31] <yaccin> lol
[02:31] <yaccin> igorjr: enable multiverse package
[02:31] <igorjr> mmmh?
[02:31] <igorjr> i did
[02:31] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: because I think other items are messed up to. like the VT terminal font
[02:31] <yaccin> igorjr: edgy?
[02:31] <Rajura> Ok Why does sun-java6-bin take forever to install?
[02:31] <yaccin> Rajura: show details
[02:31] <yaccin> in adept
[02:31] <yaccin> because theres a license ^^
[02:31] <igorjr> i enabled the multiverse package and i did refreshe
[02:31] <yaccin> you have to agree
[02:32] <Rajura> im using synpatc
[02:32] <igorjr> sorry, no i'm not edgy, just bad at english ;)
[02:32] <yaccin> igorjr: you running edgy or dapper?
[02:32] <yaccin> ^^
[02:32] <Rajura> and adept wont start up because theres allready a program running using it
[02:32] <igorjr> ^^
[02:32] <Master_Kale> !feisty
[02:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:32] <Rajura> and i cant figure out how to shut it off
[02:32] <igorjr> sorry, i don't know the answer to this question
[02:32] <yipe> whenever I try to sign in to my kubuntu-edgy install it says that thecomputer will  be shutting down in one minute, but it never does shut down
[02:33] <Rajura> ah there we go
[02:33] <yipe> it won't  let me log in, it won't allow me to shut down (because ones already running),
[02:34] <Master_Kale> do you guys know how to get Automatix2 to work with Kubuntu? It checks to see if Ubuntu is installed and exits out because its not...installed...
[02:34] <igorjr> yaccin: could you explain it to me
[02:34] <igorjr> i'm completly new at this and quite lost ;)
[02:34] <Sanne> Rajura: if you still get problems, this page may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:34] <yaccin> igorjr: the releases have "codenames" edgy edge, dapper drake, hoary hedgehog, feisty fawn
[02:34] <yaccin> ^^
[02:34] <Rajura> ty Sanne
[02:35] <Buddha|> Where can I find a list of the repositories for Kubuntu?
[02:35] <yipe> Master_Kale, automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:35] <intelikey> Steven_J_M add -plow  for all the questions you can get...   but like i said   if you reconfiged to mess it up  then reconfig and fix it.       you first asked if you could copy the configs from the liveCD to the installed system   you can but you wont like it.  and it wont work out of the box cause there are too many cd specific settings in there.
[02:35] <Sanne> Rajura: you're welcome :)
[02:35] <Master_Kale> !worksforme
[02:35] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:35] <Buddha|> I'm running Xubuntu, but I want newer versions of KOffice
[02:35] <Mena_>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <123456>
[02:36] <yipe> ouch
[02:36] <Rajura> when i try to install the java plugin for firefox i get
[02:36] <Rajura> in, scanner, admin
[02:36] <Rajura> err
[02:36] <igorjr> so, you mean the release of kubutu?
[02:36] <HymnToLife> Buddha|, you can use the repos from kubuntu.org
[02:36] <Rajura> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[02:36] <Rajura> and theres nothing else running
[02:36] <intelikey> /say /msg
[02:36] <Mena_> hehehe no porb
[02:37] <Sanne> Buddha|: here's the page with info: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php
[02:37] <TheVault> Hello guys. I have to install Kubuntu because my Ubuntu keeps stopping when I tried to install it, so now I have to use Kubuntu. Am I able to use the GNOME Desktop in Kubuntu?
[02:37] <Rajura> TheVault:  yes
[02:37] <intelikey> /say /anything that starts with / that you don't want the irc client to interpret
[02:37] <Rajura> if you install  it
[02:37] <yipe> whenever I try to sign in to my kubuntu-edgy install it says that thecomputer will  be shutting down in one minute, but it never does shut down
[02:37] <TheVault> would I do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:38] <Rajura> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[02:38] <Rajura> Can someone tell me how to fix that?
[02:38] <Mena_> OK
[02:38] <yipe> it won't  let me log in, it won't allow me to shut down (because ones already running), it generally reduces my computer to an shiny box
[02:38] <Sanne> TheVault: ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <TheVault> ahh, so it would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <TheVault> ?
[02:38] <intelikey> yipe  alt+SysRQ+E
[02:39] <yipe> intelikey, and what does that do?
[02:39] <Sanne> TheVault: yes, that would get you the desktop you would have gotten with your ubuntu install.
[02:39] <TheVault> Sanne: Thanks. Thats what I am wanting. I was being explained that Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except with differ desktop environments
[02:40] <Sanne> TheVault: you can look here what this package will get you: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/metapackages/ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <Rajura> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[02:40] <Rajura> SOMEONE
[02:40] <Rajura> tell me
[02:40] <Rajura> how to close out of the otherthing
[02:40] <Rajura> if i cant see it
[02:40] <Rajura> >.<
[02:40] <TheVault> Thanks Sanne
[02:41] <intelikey> yipe  alt+SysRQ+ letters and their use...    E emergency kill all processes    R  reset the keyboard to x-late      U remount readonly     B reboot     and others but those should help you in that area
[02:41] <Sanne> TheVault: yes, that's right, all the different desktops use the same underlying system
[02:41] <Sanne> TheVault: you're welcome :)
[02:41] <slyfox> can someone please tell me where would I fidn this in linux? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver
[02:41] <slyfox> http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver
[02:41] <Sanne> TheVault: you can even use single Kde applications in Gnome and vice versa
[02:41] <slyfox> From that link, this location - http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver
[02:41] <TheVault> Sanne: Got another quick question. If I setup my wireless using the gnome environment, will it work in the KDE?
[02:42] <slyfox> crap
[02:42] <slyfox> it does not copy
[02:42] <Rajura> someone....
[02:42] <Rajura> anyone
[02:42] <Sanne> TheVault: hmmm, don't know, sorry. Can somebody else please help?
[02:42] <intelikey> heh you can even run kde or gnome in a window of another wm
[02:42] <slyfox> Rajura: close out of the otherthing ?
[02:42] <Rajura> I cant find it
[02:42] <Rajura> nothing else is open
[02:42] <Rajura> and it still says that
[02:43] <TheVault> Intelikey: What i mean is, if I use gnome desktop to install my wireless and then later on decide to use KDE again, will it still be setup?
[02:43] <TheVault> Under KDE?
[02:43] <Sanne> Rajura: in the page I linked to about Java are some tips what to do if that happens, I think.
[02:44] <intelikey> TheVault network is not wm dependant only the config app is.
[02:44] <yipe> I feel like a stupid newb, but which key is sysRQ?
[02:44] <intelikey> !adeptfix | Rajura
[02:44] <ubotu> Rajura: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:44] <yipe> oh wait.... weird
[02:44] <TheVault> intelikey: So what do you mean by that? Sorry but I am a beginner
[02:44] <intelikey> yipe print_screen most of the keyboards.
[02:45] <Sanne> TheVault: you can try. If Gnome accesses the same config files for wireless as does Kde, it should work.
[02:46] <TheVault> Sanne: Thanks, I will certaintly try that out
[02:46] <Sanne> TheVault: I only don't know which config files are used for wireless, as I don't use it myself.
[02:46] <TheVault> Sanne: Yeah, I understand. I'm asking this for future reference
[02:46] <igorjr> i still need help with the adept manager and the libxine-extracodecs pack
[02:47] <Sanne> TheVault: sure :) you're welcome
[02:47] <igorjr> i followed the guide one the kubutu page, but still the search gives me no results
[02:47] <intelikey> TheVault meaning that the window manager (wm)  i.e. gnome or kde.   is not responsable for controling the network.  that's on the lower level of the system   (init)    but the app that you use to configure the network is (may be)   wm specific.  so that particular app may or may not work in any given system.    but by enlarge gnome apps will run in kde and vice versa.
[02:48] <TheVault> intelikey: Ahhh, so makes a whole lotta sense. Thanks :) I understand now
[02:48] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: what does -plow do?
[02:48] <intelikey> TheVault short answer.   YES !
[02:48] <TheVault> intelikey: Thanks, I understand
[02:49] <intelikey> Steven_J_M -p = priority   low = low
[02:49] <Sanne> igorjr: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[02:49] <TheVault> KDE is more nicer looking than GNOME(my opinion)
[02:49] <intelikey> Steven_J_M means ask me even low priority questions.
[02:49] <slyfox> Why is this not working well with Konqueror?  http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
[02:50] <intelikey> as opposed to -phigh
[02:50] <igorjr> sanne: i'll try
[02:50] <Sanne> igorjr: I can explain further, if you have problems, just shout :)
[02:51] <TheVault> Alright, my installation is done. Thanks guys for all the help :D
[02:51] <slyfox> Can someone please help me with this? How do I find this folder in Linux? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver
[02:51] <igorjr> sanne: i'll paste it ;)
[02:51] <Sanne> TheVault: have fun :)
[02:51] <TheVault> laters
[02:51] <TheVault> Sanne: I sure will!
[02:52] <intelikey> slyfox find / -type d -iname <what_ever_name>
[02:52] <igorjr> sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8484/
[02:52] <Sanne> igorjr: looking...
[02:53] <slyfox> igorjr: do I need to run this in sudo ?
[02:53] <Sanne> igorjr: look at lines 16 and 17
[02:53] <igorjr> ye
[02:54] <vladi> i just installed herd5, any documentation available as to what I need to install for codecs and such?
[02:54] <Sanne> igorjr: after universe, add a blank, then multiverse to those two lines
[02:54] <vladi> or is it the same packages as 6.10?
[02:54] <igorjr> remove the "." ?
[02:55] <Sanne> igorjr: huh? what "."
[02:55] <igorjr> no, it's perfectly allright
[02:55] <igorjr> if this works, i'll kiss you
[02:55] <yipe> THANK YOU! that was bizarre and cool and now everything is back how it should be!
[02:56] <igorjr> oh well
[02:56] <intelikey> Steven_J_M do us all a favour.   in a ?onsole, or terminal; type.       man man       and read.     "what does -plow mean indeed..."
[02:56] <yipe> and I learned about a button on my keyboard I've never used before!
[02:56] <igorjr> i have to log on with kde to write this file?
[02:56] <igorjr> sorry, i'm completely new to this and I'm quite overwhelmed by linux
[02:56] <Sanne> igorjr: no, you can edit it with any editor
[02:57] <igorjr> sanne: it says, i can't write in this directory
[02:57] <Buddha|> HymnToLife: I can't find the repos from kubuntu.org
[02:57] <Sanne> igorjr: just a sec
[02:58] <igorjr> sanne: ah, it's ok
[02:59] <Sanne> igorjr: are you on kde or gnome right now?
[03:00] <Sanne> igorjr: ping
[03:00] <igorjr> sanne: i'm on kde
[03:00] <igorjr> right now
[03:00] <Sanne> igorjr: please type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <igorjr> ah, great
[03:02] <Sanne> igorjr: kdesu gives you admin rights for gui apps, so you can now edit the file
[03:02] <HymnToLife> Buddha|, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php
[03:02] <Sanne> igorjr: for command line apps, you would use sudo instead of kdesu
[03:02] <igorjr> thank you very much
[03:03] <igorjr> tomorrow i will deep down into this very confusing os
[03:03] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: ok thanks. You miss understood me before, I don't want to copy any files from the CD's live system at all. I wondered whether the installer could reconfigure the software to how it was when it was installed.
[03:03] <Sanne> igorjr: you're welcome :). Tell me if it works now (or don't)
[03:04] <danielches> hi
[03:04] <Sanne> doesn't, I mean...
[03:05] <danielches> my java is stuffing up, like its not working in firefox
[03:05] <danielches> in internet>sunjava5 i have a java thingee, how to i get a plugin into the ff thing?
[03:06] <intelikey> Steven_J_M no it cant.
[03:06] <Sanne> danielches: you should find help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:06] <intelikey> Steven_J_M the live CD installer is about as worthless as the tits on a boar hog.
[03:06] <danielches> thx
[03:07] <Sanne> danielches: if you get stuck somewhere on this page, just ask :)
[03:07] <Mena_> !Inkscape
[03:07] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[03:07] <Mena_> Is there a channel for thsi program
[03:07] <Mena_> this
[03:08] <danielches> yeah i am stuck
[03:08] <igorjr> sanne: seems like it doesn't work
[03:08] <danielches> like, i think i have done that , in regard to installig the java package
[03:08] <igorjr> it refresehes since 2 minutes
[03:08] <danielches> java appears as an entry in my k menu, under internet
[03:09] <Sanne> igorjr: tell me what you did, and what errors you got
[03:09] <intelikey> Mena_ /join #inkscape
[03:09] <Mena_> danielches, there is a plugin for firefox
[03:09] <Mena_> intelikey, ok
[03:09] <danielches> yeah
[03:09] <Mena_> intelikey, thanks :)
[03:09] <intelikey> :)
[03:09] <igorjr> i'll post my file again
[03:10] <Sanne> igorjr: ok
[03:10] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: ok thanks anway, I hope I wasn't beinging annoying
[03:10] <om3ga> im thinking of trying fedora core
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> blasphemy
[03:10] <igorjr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8485/
[03:10] <intelikey> Steven_J_M not much.  but if someone sujests  add -somearg   next time you want to know what the arg does just   man the command
[03:10] <om3ga> i know thats off topic for this channel
[03:11] <om3ga> lol
[03:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd say go for it if you like dependency hel.
[03:11] <slyfox> Can soemone please help me to set this up? http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlySaver
[03:11] <Steven_J_M> ok
[03:11] <om3ga> all i have ever used is ubuntu and kubuntu
[03:11] <Sanne> looks good igorjr. Let's do the rest at the konsole, so we can see errors better. Please type: sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <danielches> ok, i'm downloading another java file, hopefully this will fix it :)
[03:13] <igorjr> sanne: done
[03:13] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago wasn't dep_hell like in the third issue of rh or something ?     i had rh9.0   and a few releases of mdk  but never had any problems with deps.
[03:13] <igorjr> sanne: but nothing seemed to happen though
[03:13] <Sanne> igorjr: you should have gotten some status reports, this just updated your list of available packages.
[03:14] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago as a matter of fact. i have had more trubble with broken dpkg than i ever did with rpm
[03:14] <Sanne> igorjr: what package did you want to isntall again?
[03:15] <sanityx> Hi guys. I'm curious what you love about kde. I'm not here to argue, or anything like that, just want opinions.
[03:15] <igorjr> sanne: libxine-extracodecs
[03:15] <Sanne> sanityx: configurability, konqueror as file manager, kate as editor
[03:15] <sanityx> All good reasons.
[03:16] <Sanne> igorjr: ok, please type: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:16] <sanityx> Sanne what do you like about Konquerer?
[03:16] <igorjr> sanne: aaah, found it
[03:16] <igorjr> sanne: this is great, i would dance, if i wasn't so tired
[03:16] <intelikey> sanityx what do you not like about konq ?
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i had it the other way around intelikey, oh well. offtopic.
[03:16] <sanityx> intelikey, I don't have an opinion. I'm asking him for his.
[03:17] <Sanne> sanityx: it is also very konfigurable, I need a file manager that I can make my own :)
[03:17] <Sanne> igorjr: did it work?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't like middleclick for the mouse. love the way Fx handles it
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[03:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> haha.
[03:19] <intelikey> well i never found anything about ff that i liked, but hey i get along with links2 just fine.
[03:19] <Sanne> sanityx: btw, I'm no "hin"
[03:19] <Sanne> sanityx: "him", even
[03:19] <sanityx> lol
[03:19] <sanityx> Sorry.
[03:19] <Sanne> :)
[03:20] <crazy_bus> !offtopic
[03:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:20] <sanityx> grr at firefox for loading the kubuntu iso as plain text
[03:20] <intelikey> !botabuse | crazy_bus
[03:20] <ubotu> crazy_bus: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:21] <sanityx> Sanne, are you on linuxchix?
[03:21] <intelikey> sanityx you can "save as"
[03:21] <sanityx> intelikey, I know.
[03:21] <Sanne> sanityx: no, but I know about that project.
[03:23] <jhutchins> You know, dependency hell never did actually exist.  It was people who didn't know what they were doing blaming a very good system.
[03:23] <sanityx> Sanne, some cool people on the list. I find that there's less arrogance there then in the community at large.
[03:23] <jhutchins> Hm.  Looks like I was lost in the scrollbuffer again.
[03:23] <intelikey> jhutchins didn't i just say that ?
[03:23] <jhutchins> intelikey: Quite likely.
[03:23] <intelikey> :)
[03:24] <rbrunhuber> !codecs
[03:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:24] <Sanne> sanityx: I should check it out again, thanks for reminding me :)
[03:24] <sanityx> Sanne, :-D
[03:25] <jhutchins> I mean, you want dependency hell, just try tracking down all the required packages, libraries, headers, and dependencies without a package manager!
[03:25] <Sanne> sanityx: for the iso, I would use wget. I find it more reliable for large downloads (just a feeling, but still...). And you can easily resume.
[03:25] <sanityx> Sanne, I would use it too. If I weren't using windows. But I do use a download manager
[03:25] <Sanne> intelikey: what means "make time"? (German here...)
[03:25] <intelikey> jhutchins yessir yessir three bags full.
[03:26] <Sanne> sanityx: haha! But there's wget for Windows, if I remember correctly.
[03:26] <sanityx> There is, but my download manager intergrates well with firefox.
[03:26] <Sanne> sanityx: it's ok, I didn't mean to preach ;)
[03:26] <sanityx> and intelikey I AM NOT doing anything of the sort.
[03:26] <sanityx> just talking.
[03:26] <sanityx> talking is fun.
[03:27] <intelikey> Sanne 'to coart'   'to woo'     'to bring into faverable attraction'
[03:27] <sanityx> Sanne, He thinks I'm trying to flirt with you
[03:27] <intelikey> Sanne watch him.  it's too obvious when they start denying it.
[03:27] <magnushc> Hey, i have ubuntu, and got my java here. /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08    .My javac works fine. But when i wanna run my prog whit java, i get Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:   . What must i do for making the java work?
[03:27] <Sanne> intelikey: oh! You think so? (pushes up hair, redos makeup)
[03:27] <Sanne> ;)
[03:28] <sanityx> Hah!
[03:28] <igorjr> sanne, you don't live in munich, do you?
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone how how I can use a GPG with gmail? i can't use a email client because smtp is disabled on campus
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a way to do that?
[03:28] <igorjr> just checking about a possible coincidence
[03:28] <Sanne> igorjr: nope, a bit further north (as in, at the baltic sea)
[03:29] <igorjr> got it
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> magnushc: the program has a problem
[03:29] <Sanne> igorjr: I wanted to add a recommendation for your sources.list
[03:29] <jhutchins> Admiral_Chicago: Sure, just sign/encrypt the text, then either paste it into the message or attach it as a file.
[03:29] <igorjr> sanne: tell me, but it works now. i found the file
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> you haven't defined a main class as i can tell
[03:30] <sanityx> Is the sources.list generator http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ valid for Kubuntu as wel?
[03:30] <sanityx> well*
[03:30] <jhutchins> !easysource
[03:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> jhutchins: huh? i'm sorry just add the text? what do you mean encrypt
[03:30] <jhutchins> Looks like.
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm really bad with GPG.
[03:30] <intelikey> sanityx ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu
[03:30] <Sanne> igorjr: your last two lines list the dapper-security repository for universe. You might add multiverse there also, to get security fixes.
[03:30] <sanityx> intelikey, cool
[03:31] <jhutchins> Write the message as a text tile, use GPG to do whatever you want done, cut-and-paste or attach the results.
[03:31] <version7> If anyone could help me i'm having a problem enableing my wireless in kubuntu if you can help please message me thanks
[03:31] <igorjr> ah, thx, i'll fix that
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see. i get you. thanks
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> didn't think to do it that way
[03:31] <Sanne> igorjr: :)
[03:31] <intelikey> !wifi > version7
[03:32] <Sanne> igorjr: and remember to do a 'sudo apt-get update' after editing the file.
[03:32] <jhutchins> version7: The problem is there are so many possible cards that the web pages are better sources than IRC.
[03:32] <igorjr> i'm currently downloading the codecs, but i will afterwards
[03:33] <intelikey> Sanne  " dapper-security for multiverse ? "
[03:33] <Sanne> igorjr: that's fine :) Ah, and since you're new, do you have links to the wiki and the community help site?
[03:33] <Sanne> intelikey: isn't there?
[03:33] <version7> what happens is it is listed in the network connections and when i enable it it puts the green check buy it then goes back to disabled
[03:33] <igorjr> sanne: if you could hand them over, i'd like to be able to help myself
[03:33] <intelikey> wont hurt if it's there.  but ubuntu doesn't do security on multiverse  as far as i know.
[03:33] <igorjr> sanne: i have a bunch of questions
[03:33] <Sanne> igorjr: sec, I'll get them
[03:34] <[R] eaper> hi xD
[03:34] <intelikey> !wiki
[03:34] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:34] <Sanne> igorjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
[03:35] <Sanne> bah intelikey (you're cheating)
[03:35] <Sanne> ;)
[03:35] <intelikey> yep
[03:35] <[R] eaper> i have a "problem", glxgears shows 250 fps (i have ati radeon x1600)
[03:35] <intelikey> Sanne cli users are notorious for that.
[03:35] <igorjr> sanne: thx
[03:35] <Sanne> heh
[03:36] <jhutchins> I have a radeon 7000 and I only get about 450.
[03:36] <intelikey> !ati | [R] eaper
[03:36] <ubotu> [R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <Sanne> igorjr: you're welcome. I hope you'll like linux!
[03:36] <[R] eaper> i have the latest ati drivers and glxinfo says Direct Rendering: Yes
[03:36] <jhutchins> Sanne: I have a cheat sheet of bot commands.
[03:36] <igorjr> sanne: i'm currently very confused and tired
[03:36] <Sanne> jhutchins: now that's an idea!
[03:37] <intelikey> [R] eaper hmm beets me.  i get like 30 fps or something....
[03:37] <igorjr> sanne: but it looks like ...aah...something which will keep me busy
[03:37] <igorjr> :D
[03:37] <[R] eaper> 
[03:37] <jhutchins> It's posted on a server and I use sshfs (fish in konq) to read/write it with kwrite.
[03:37] <Sanne> igorjr: that will pass with time. Switching os is like changing appartments, very stressful at first, all unfamiliar.
[03:38] <jhutchins> Unixes have what's called a steep learning curve - there are so many things to learn at the beginning it's very hard, but it gets a lot easier after you get over the first bit.
[03:38] <igorjr> sanne: hopefully ;)  so, cya... I'll relax now with the simpsons
[03:38] <igorjr> sanne: thx to you ;)
[03:38] <intelikey> igorjr one thought.  everything you know about computers.  don't bring that to linux.  it won't help.   you have to start at 0 and add 1's just like all the rest of us.
[03:38] <Sanne> igorjr: bye, see you
[03:39] <[R] eaper> there's another 3d benchmark besides glxgears?
[03:39] <intelikey> glxgears is not a benchmarking app
[03:39] <jhutchins> Now if we all started with 0's and 1's instead of a GUI, there'd be far fewer Frequently Asked Questions...
[03:39] <sanityx> [R] eaper, well with the ati drivers there's fglrx_glxgears, or something like that
[03:40] <sanityx> jhutchins, Hey for me the gui is basically just a way to have 6 terminals on the screen at once
[03:40] <jhutchins> sanityx: Oh, you mean side-by-side as opposed to stacked like in screen.
[03:40] <sanityx> jhutchins, Yes.
[03:40] <Sanne> [R] eaper: I would use one of the fps's. Doesn't quake3 have a benchmark option?
[03:40] <intelikey> only 6  ?
[03:40] <sanityx> I prefer to see them all at once.
[03:40] <jhutchins> I would like to have something that would tile consoles and scale the text proportionately.
[03:41] <[R] eaper> with fgl_glxgears i get 500 fps :(
[03:41] <jhutchins> [R] eaper: What do you think you should get?
[03:41] <intelikey> you can't see above about 70
[03:41] <[R] eaper> a lot more
[03:41] <[R] eaper> its a damn ati radeon x1600 XD
[03:41] <jhutchins> [R] eaper: How much?  Why?
[03:42] <jhutchins> [R] eaper: So it's supposed to go to 11?
[03:42] <slyfox> How do I enable webcam support ?
[03:42] <Sanne> I'm going to sleep now. Bye all.
[03:42] <intelikey> !webcam
[03:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:42] <sanityx> Night
[03:42] <jhutchins> slyfox: Well, do you have a live goat, or at least a chicken?
[03:42] <[R] eaper> with my old radeon 9250 i got 3000 fps on glxgears 
[03:42] <jhutchins> 'Night Sanne
[03:43] <jhutchins> [R] eaper: Ah, now we have something to work with!
[03:43] <intelikey> you still can't see above about 70
[03:43] <slyfox> jhutchins: Is that a joke ?
[03:43] <[R] eaper> ^^
[03:43] <sanityx> Does automatix work fine on kubuntu?
[03:43] <jhutchins> slyfox: Yes.  But webcam support in linux is very iffy.
[03:44] <slyfox> jhutchins: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/linux-uvc/  ?
[03:45] <intelikey> jhutchins it shouldn't be.   what about enbeded security systems ?
[03:45] <slyfox> USB Video Class devices., oops I have a built in camera
[03:45] <Buddha|> Does anyone happen to know what repo I could find an updated version of the Basket package in?
[03:46] <intelikey> Buddha| updated versions are not packaged for older releases by default.   if the package is too old maybe the one in the next release will work.
[03:47] <intelikey> or source.
[03:47] <intelikey> !b-e
[03:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:47] <benjoer456> how do i get libc6 package
[03:47] <intelikey> you have libc6
[03:47] <Buddha|> The latest version of Basket isn't any newer than the latest version of KOffice, as far as I know
[03:48] <benjoer456> but a newer version (2.4blabla..) needed for installing libmpeg3
[03:48] <intelikey> the latest version of koffice is not packaged for older releases either.
[03:48] <Buddha|> I'm just wondering what repo the Basket package is in
[03:48] <intelikey> !basket
[03:48] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[03:48] <Jucato> basket is in universe
[03:48] <benjoer456> but a newer version (2.4blabla..) of libc6 needed for installing libmpeg3
[03:49] <Jucato> there's a .deb package for Basket 1.0 available from their website. But unless 1.0 is backported from Feisty we don't have it on Edgy
[03:49] <Buddha|> I'm actually running Xubuntu, not Kubuntu, so what do I need to add to my sources.list file?
[03:50] <Jucato> Buddha|: Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu share the same repositories (except for KDE and KOffice updates)
[03:50] <Buddha|> Synaptic complains if I just add 'universe' after 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main'
[03:50] <intelikey> benjoer456   dpkg -l | grep libc6
[03:50] <intelikey> benjoer456 what version do you have ?
[03:50] <Jucato> Buddha|: no. Basket is not in the kubuntu.org repositories
[03:50] <intelikey> or just leave.
[03:50] <jack> Jucato: hi do you have any idea why i need for kopete and kwallet to enter the password again and again even so it should be remembered there?for some other apps kwallet doesnt work too
[03:51] <Jucato> jack: no idea. I have no problems here w/ kwallet...
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jack: is kwallet launched when you launch kopete?
[03:51] <Far^Side> hello, does anyone know how I could rotate the X11 display?
[03:52] <Buddha|> Far^Side: turn your monitor upside-down
[03:52] <Jucato> Far^Side: press Alt+F2, type in: krandrtray
[03:52] <Jucato> Far^Side: you will get a system tray icon for it
[03:52] <intelikey> Jucato do you have any idea what about ubuntu-linux that would alter the hwclock ?    and it's not the /etc/init.d/hwclock*.sh scripts i don't use them.
[03:52] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry, nope :(
[03:53] <intelikey> but you were doing so good at answering them all....
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: can you help me with my X set up
[03:53] <n8k99> intelikey: you don't happen to dual boot do you
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, jking. you're popular tonight :)
[03:53] <intelikey> n8k99 yeah
[03:53] <Jucato> haha :)
[03:53] <n8k99> Jucato: can you fetch me a cup of coffee?
[03:53] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: btw, no idea about Gmail and GPG. :P
[03:53] <jack> Admiral_Chicago: it launches both, so i eed to enter two passwords instead of one
[03:53] <Far^Side> Buddha|, lol
[03:53] <intelikey> n8k99 lilo though.  grub is too week to boot this box
[03:53] <Jucato> (you thought I didn't see you question? :P)
[03:53] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: Hi again I've booted back into my own system and X is working after copying over the backup file like you said. I'm just wondering whether dpkg-recfigure would've made a backup of the file(s) concerning the VT fonts?
[03:54] <n8k99> intelikey: that is possibly the culprit
[03:54] <Far^Side> Jucato, I got the systray icon, but there is no rotate features there. Do you know how I could enable that feature?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, thats odd, i don't have that issue ever. might want to look in ~/.kde/
[03:54] <intelikey> n8k99 no chance.
[03:54] <Jucato> intelikey: too week? maybe you should count by days :)
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yea, the network here sucks, wish i could use Kmail and SMTP
[03:54] <intelikey> weak ?    <sp?>
[03:54] <Jucato> Far^Side: when you right-click on the systray icon?
[03:55] <Far^Side> Jucato, yes, it just says Screen Size and Refresh Rate
[03:55] <intelikey> Jucato you promised you wouldn't make fun of my pissmelling words anymore.
[03:55] <Jucato> Far^Side: hm... strange....
[03:55] <Jucato> intelikey: ooops soooweeee :)
[03:55] <n8k99> intelikey: i had that problem when i was dual booting the other s tried to update to a different clock than the one ubuntu updates to
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe the card can't handle it?
[03:56] <intelikey> n8k99 but i haven't booted any other disk in months so that's not the cause here.
[03:56] <hassanm> Hellow
[03:56] <n8k99> intelikey ok
[03:56] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: true
[03:56] <Jucato> mine can't it seems..
[03:57] <intelikey> randr == r & r
[03:57] <Far^Side> Jucato, I guess I need RandR
[03:57] <intelikey> lol
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> mine can't either...which is odd.
[03:57] <Jucato> brb... need to order some pizza
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe its the driver Jucato ?
[03:57] <Far^Side> RandR extension in X
[03:57] <intelikey> good use of regex   lol
[03:57] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: or an extension you need to enable.. not really sure :)
[04:00] <intelikey> pouts    ;S
[04:00] <hassanm> I installed ubuntu on IBM thinkcentre, but I was not able to start xserver, I did run reconfigure the xserver without success, any ideas what to do?
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> hassanm: what does sudo starx in a terminal
[04:02] <intelikey> hassanm reconfigure it again.  don't use   'vesa'  or   'kernel frame buffering'    and make sure you answer all questions correctly.
[04:04] <igorjr> i got a new problem
[04:04] <hassanm> intelikey when I start x, I get black screen and the monitor does not seem to be receiving anything.  I will reconfigure, Thanks
[04:04] <igorjr> i tried to install my printer, but it says the driver maybe not where it is expected to be or i have no authorisation
[04:04] <igorjr> i did in administration-mode
[04:05] <intelikey> hassanm that sounds like frame buffering is enabled  jsut a guess.
[04:05] <Steven_J_M> how do I get the computer to set edgy default console font on startup?
[04:06] <hassanm> intelikey, how to disable it?
[04:06] <intelikey> kernel frame buffering is fenicy,  it either works or you get lots of really odd outputs   "blank screen" being amoung the most often seen.
[04:07] <intelikey> hassanm in the dpkg-recongifure xserver-xorg   it will ask.
[04:08] <jack> Jucato: if i install in the controlcenter an icon set in the tat
[04:08] <Jucato> huh?
[04:08] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: would dpkg-recfigure have made a backup of the file(s) concerning the VT fonts?
[04:09] <intelikey> Steven_J_M possably  but off hand i wouldn't know where to tell you to look.
[04:09] <jack> tar.gz fomrat, it tells me that :The file is not a valid icon theme archive.
[04:09] <jack> jucato is there something against it, as i fancy this really, this set so lol
[04:09] <intelikey> Steven_J_M what release are you running ?
[04:10] <Jucato> jack: maybe it's not an  icon theme? are you installing it from System Settings? don't extract the contents. just install the .tar.gz itself
[04:10] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: 6.10
[04:11] <jack> jucato thats what i try to do it is in the kde-look.org in the icons, so not called a theme, but with icons from there it worked before fine too
[04:11] <intelikey> Steven_J_M    invoke_rc.d console-screen.sh restart        maybe ?
[04:11] <intelikey> not sure about edgy.
[04:11] <jack> Jucato: i'd need to exchange it by hand then?
[04:12] <intelikey> Jucato does edgy have  /etc/init.d/ scripts ?
[04:12] <hassanm> inteikey: after reconfig and startx, the same.. There are some errror  (cannot open /dev/wacom)
[04:12] <sanityx> Whats the deal with Kubuntu not including firefox by default. I mean I know, I know, Konquerer is kde's browser. But come on.
[04:13] <intelikey> hassanm (cannot open /dev/wacom) is not an error in ubuntu it's a feature.
[04:13] <intelikey> hassanm what else does it spit out ?
[04:13] <igorjr> hey, can anybody help me with my printer-setup?
[04:14] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: do I type that invoke line exactly?
[04:14] <intelikey> hassanm you can redirrect the output       startx | less 2>&1
[04:14] <intelikey> Steven_J_M yeah.    also might test    /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh restart
[04:15] <intelikey> or just start in place of restart
[04:15] <hassanm> intelikey: that is all
[04:15] <hassanm> intelikey: I will try that
[04:16] <carutsu> hello
[04:17] <intelikey> hassanm hmmm also look in     less ~/.xsession-errors   and  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    for info.
[04:17] <smax> hi gang
[04:18] <smax> what is the best way to have $HOME on my slave hard drive?  just have /home/smax a symbolic link to /media/hdb1/home/smax  ?
[04:18] <intelikey> hassanm you did select to "not use" kernel frame buffering  in the reconfig  did you not ?
[04:19] <intelikey> smax no mount it as /home/smax    or as /home  if you don't care for other accounts being there too
[04:19] <Steven_J_M> intelikey: invoke_rc.d command not found
[04:19] <carutsu> scuse me, why isnt in the repostories openoffice 2.1, it was released long ago
[04:19] <carutsu> ?
[04:19] <smax> intelikey: im the only user logging in this machine.  thanx
[04:20] <intelikey> Steven_J_M maybe dash in place of underscore
[04:20] <carutsu> anyone?
[04:20] <hassanm> intelikey: yes, I did not use kernel fram buffering
[04:21] <smax> i have a sound blaster 5.1  does the bot know about installing sound drivers?
[04:21] <intelikey> hassanm you can try it with "vesa"   that might get you a screen   but even if it works you will later be reconfiguring it.
[04:21] <intelikey> !sound | smax
[04:21] <ubotu> smax: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:21] <carutsu> wel.. nevermind, forget that... another question, whenever i try to play a shared mp3 (is on a windows pc) Amarok Crashes
[04:22] <carutsu> if i open it locally (i mean i copy it then play it)
[04:22] <carutsu> it plays it with no problem
[04:23] <hassanm> intelikey: the video card is intel 82915G/GV/910GL   will versa work with that
[04:23] <intelikey> well i'm gona take the loot and scoot.     i mean i'm gona get the doah and go.
[04:23] <intelikey> hassanm vesa  and yes it should.  but vesa is limited in it's rendering.
[04:27] <jhutchins> carutsu: Because everybody is getting fed up with Open Office's attempt to clone both the code bloat and the disfunctional crash-prone character of MS Office.
[04:27] <jhutchins> carutsu: Try koffice.
[04:28] <jhutchins> (Although kspread kinda... dissappoints.)
[04:29] <carutsu> actually is far better than MS
[04:29] <carutsu> i plan to try kofice but i like OOo...
[04:35] <carutsu> even OOo isnt as good
[04:35] <carutsu> i tried to migrate a meduim-sized company
[04:35] <carutsu> didnt work out
[04:35] <carutsu> for 1!! single file
[04:36] <carutsu> the company was based totally on it
[04:36] <carutsu> and OOo couldnt get it right....
[04:36] <carutsu> u_u
[04:36] <carutsu> depresing
[04:36] <carutsu> i had convinced them of changing to linux
[04:37] <Jucato> well, KOffice is worse when it comes to opening/importing MS Office files
[04:37] <lnxkde> heretic: I love you!
[04:38] <lnxkde> I just modified your xorg.conf and it worked :'(
[04:38] <lnxkde> :D
[04:38] <carutsu> xD still cant belive it?
[04:42] <fyrmedic> Anyone know how to diagnose and fix sound problems?
[04:42] <carutsu> i know what you will tell me... but i need to check hotmail with Kmail... i heard of a script
[04:43] <carutsu> but i NEED to keep the mail on the server till i erase it on the inbox
[04:43] <carutsu> is there a way to do that?
[04:43] <carutsu> sorry fyrmedic always has worked "out of the box" for me
[04:44] <matthew> linux-source-<version> What do I replace <version> with? I'm using Kubuntu Feisty
[04:44] <Slynderdale> Is it realitively safe to delete a single file on a NTFS drive under Kubuntu?
[04:45] <carutsu> Slyderdale as far as i know yes
[04:45] <carutsu> they have even released a 1.0 ver
[04:45] <carutsu> of not-remember-what program wich is very stable
[04:45] <carutsu> !NTFS
[04:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:46] <Slynderdale> !ntfs-3g
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:46] <carutsu> i think has just been updated
[04:46] <carutsu> try searching for it
[04:52] <Master_Kale> I'm following a guide on virtualizing Windows, and it tells me to install qemu, linux-source-VERSION, and KQemu-Source
[04:52] <Master_Kale> for the linux-source-VERSION, what do I replace VERSION with?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> the version of the kernel you are using
[04:54] <smax> ummmm yea.  how do i boot the off my master hard drive by default?  just becuase i have a linux partition on my slave drive, grub takes the senceless route and brings up a grub prompt,  rather than just booting the damn thing
[04:54] <Dr_willis> search the package manager for linux-source
[04:54] <Dr_willis> actually it may just need the kernel-headers.
[04:54] <Master_Kale> I got linux-source installed already
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !info qemu
[04:54] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> iqemu is allready in the repos.. you shoudl be able to just apt-get install it.
[04:55] <Master_Kale> but qemu and kqemu aren't showing up; do I need to add them to my repositories list?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I perfer vmware, and virtualbox to qemu
[04:55] <Dr_willis> !info kqemu
[04:55] <ubotu> Package kqemu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:55] <redcard> What's the difference between vmware and virtualbox?
[04:55] <Master_Kale> I'm using Feisty
[04:55] <Dr_willis> kqemu is not gpl i think
[04:55] <Dr_willis> redcard,  differnt companies.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> they seem to work about the same for me
[04:56] <Dr_willis> vmware has some bigger features for the big companies it seems
[04:56] <Dr_willis> but for my testing of live cd's they both work decently well
[04:56] <smax> i would like to have $home mount from my slave drive,  but how am i supposed to get the device name if i get a grub prompt rather than just linux booting.
[04:57] <Master_Kale> when I try 'sudo apt-get install qemu' I get back 'E: Couldn't find package qemu"
[04:57] <smax> if i have linux on a master device, shouldnt the default thing to do is just boot of the master device regardless of what is on the slave?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> that tells me you dont have all the repositories set up
[04:57] <Dr_willis> smax,  to get home somewhere else.. you just edit the fstab and moun tit whever you want
[04:58] <Lijoh> someone help me
[04:58] <Dr_willis> you could even do this after an install - easy to move /home to some where else
[04:58] <Lijoh> i cant open rar file
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !rar
[04:58] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !unrar
[04:58] <smax> Dr_willis: how am i going to mount in the first place if i dont know the name of the device in /dev?
[04:58] <Lijoh> yes
[04:58] <smax> hence grub interferees
[04:58] <Lijoh> yes unrar
[04:58] <Dr_willis> smax,  fdisk -l
[04:58] <smax> and NOT boots
[04:58] <smax> i cant get past grub
[04:58] <Lijoh> im newbie
[04:58] <Dr_willis> smax,  now you are getting to the real problem then it seems.
[04:59] <smax> grub is soo stuipid. i have linux on my slave too.  OOOO WOW so why can grub just boot from the master anyway.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Lijoh,  install the  unrar-free package or the nonfree rar program from the repositories..
[04:59] <smax> as of now.  the slave is unplugged
[04:59] <Dr_willis> smax,  ive never had grub be at issue with my 7 hard drives.. :)
[04:59] <Lijoh> where can i download it?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Lijoh,  use the package manager, to install them. You may need to add the extra repositories
[05:00] <smax> would i need to erase grub from my slave drive too ?
[05:00] <Master_Kale> Dr_willis: yeah, I'm not even able to install VMWare; if you can point me to the repositorie I need to install, I can take care of that
[05:00] <Dr_willis> or 'check' on the extra repositories
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> smax: no
[05:00] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[05:00] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:00] <smax> Admiral_Chicago: well what do you suggest?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Master_Kale,  vmware server is not in the repos.
[05:01] <fyrmedic> F1re-hose
[05:01] <smax> im am NOT going to configure grub.conf.  too much shit to fiddle with. if i want to fiddle with shit i'll install gentoo
[05:01] <Master_Kale> Dr_willis: hmm
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> smax: well, GRUB will overwrite it but it will still be on the slave. I recommend leaving but realize it may need fiddling if you wove your slave around
[05:01] <Dr_willis> grub loads and reads its config files from where its set up to do so.. then that shows the grub menus.. What is grub doing exactly?
[05:01] <Slynderdale> How do you tell what versuon of a package you have such as FUSE?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> The ubuntu/kubuntu/installers some how manage to scan the system to include most all of my linux disrtos in the default ubuntu grub menu. which suprised me
[05:02] <smax> Dr_willis: linux loads, when i dont have my slave plugged in.  but when i do plug  it in. i get a grub prompt
[05:02] <smax> and linux NOT loads
[05:02] <Dr_willis> smax,  so no drive in.. you do or do not get a grub menu?
[05:03] <Dr_willis> actually grub is hidden by default isent it? hit escape and see if you get the full grub menu.
[05:03] <smax> Dr_willis: grub menu?  why should i fiddle with grub?  id rather reinstall kubuntu on the slave device or with the slave plugged in for grub to get it right.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> smax,  do whatever ya want then.. im not clear on what the problem is or whats going on...
[05:03] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those tools it pays to read/learn and twiddle with.
[05:04] <smax> Dr_willis: it's simple. with the slave plugged in. i get a grub prompt when i want X or LInux to boot
[05:04] <Dr_willis> the slave drive is  the slave to the drive that linux is instlled in?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> If you are getting a grub:> prompt it may be the drives are some how getting 'reordered' and grub is no longer finding its config files.
[05:05] <smax> so why does linux boot when the slave is out.  but NOT (and rather grub menu) when the slave is plugged in
[05:05] <smax> hmm
[05:05] <Dr_willis> the use of your phrase 'linux boots' seems odd.. GRUB loads, then boots up linux.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> now you may or may not be seeing it do so.. or it may be doing it real fast..
[05:05] <smax> well then X and my desktop
[05:06] <Dr_willis> X and  the desktop has nothing to do with grub....
[05:06] <smax> exactly
[05:06] <smax> i want that
[05:06] <smax> NOT grub
[05:06] <smax> or grub>
[05:06] <Lijoh> thanks Dr_willis
[05:06] <smax> i dont want to see  grub>  when i plug the slave in.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> GRUB loads first.. from the MBR of the drives.. it then loads up Linux, whoich then loads up X or whatever ya want.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> smax,  exactly.. GRUB is some how gettting confused by the extra drive
[05:06] <smax> why doesnt it just load the OS on the Master
[05:07] <fuel> Grub -> Linux | m$
[05:07] <smax> that would be the smart choice
[05:07] <Dr_willis> GRUB is some how gettting confused by the extra drive
[05:07] <franco> hi all from argentina!!!
[05:07] <fuel> smax : since grub is installed on the boot drive......
[05:07] <Dr_willis> smax,  i think you are failing to understand the fundmentals of how grub works.
[05:07] <smax> great now i have to remove it off the extra drive
[05:07] <fuel> or *active* drive
[05:07] <smax> i dont want to fiddle with shit to just code.  i thought ubuntu was for "human n00bs"
[05:08] <fuel> :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> smax,  go do whatever ya want then.. im done here.
[05:08] <smax> grub is stuipid
[05:08] <Slynderdale> Where is fstab located?
[05:08] <Dr_willis> smax,  yea.. whatever.
[05:08] <smax> hell i can have two windows drives.  and it would be smart enuff to boot from the master.
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Slynderdale: /etc/fstab
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> AFK for the night.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> smax,  yea.. whatever.....
[05:08] <smax> Dr_willis: its true
[05:08] <fuel> smax : why is grub stupid ?
[05:09] <Slynderdale> Whats wrong with grub?
[05:09] <fuel> smax : think before you spit out
[05:10] <fuel> !think
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <fuel> !sense
[05:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:10] <fuel> damn!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> fuel,  you showed him!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> darn grub and all its badness!
[05:12] <Slynderdale> Where is the default location for grub?
[05:12] <fuel> Slynderdale: its in your /boot/grub location
[05:12] <Dr_willis> grub is normally installed to the MBR. its configs are in /boot/grub
[05:12] <naught101> anyone else find that skype freezes their machine when it gets incoming messages?
[05:12] <Slynderdale> fuel: Thanks
[05:12] <fuel> naught101: same here :)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> IF you add a new hard drive the location it looks for /boot/grub can change. and THAT can confuse things
[05:12] <fuel> naught101: its just stupid....
[05:13] <fuel> Dr_willis: no it need not.......if you remove the master pin from the new hard drive
[05:13] <fuel> actually the problem is not with grub.......its how you connect your drives
[05:13] <naught101> fuel: no solution?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> fuel,  ive twiddled and fought with grub so much. :)
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ever remove a cdrom and instal a hd? heh that shifted them all down..
[05:14] <Dr_willis> but the use of uuid and other stuff i guess is supposed to 'fix' some of that
[05:14] <fuel> naught101: so far no .......you have to stop using skype for text chat :) . on the other hand....if you keep  your chat window open it does not hang
[05:14] <naught101> ah, interesting.
[05:14] <naught101> fucking skype
[05:15] <fuel> but anyway skype voice clarity on linux rocks :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> heh  they finially got the oss and alsa stuff worked out?
[05:15] <sanityx> I can't seem to find that configuration wizard that KDE normally has in Kubuntu. Is it not htere?
[05:15] <fuel> yeah . it works perfectly fine
[05:15] <naught101> yeah, about 6 months ago?
[05:15] <sanityx> or rather KDE normally has
[05:15] <Dr_willis> sanityx,  not installed by default
[05:15] <fuel> sanityx: ?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i forget its name..
[05:15] <sanityx> Dr_willis, Any idea what the package is called?
[05:15] <sanityx> damn.
[05:15] <fuel> !google
[05:15] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[05:16] <Dr_willis> some 'kde-firsttime' or somthing?
[05:16] <sanityx> Also anybody know a good program for managing CPU speed? My laptop wont stop clocking itself down to 800 mhz
[05:16] <Dr_willis> theres several kde packages that are not installed by default
[05:17] <fuel> Dr_willis: dvd does not have kde devel included by default..... which pissed me off
[05:17] <fuel> Dr_willis: i wonder whats there in the dvd! i find no difference between cd and dvd installation. :(
[05:17] <Dr_willis> fuel,  given the # of updates since the dvd was mastered.. it would proberly be out of date  anyway
[05:17] <fuel> true
[05:18] <Steven_M> I messed up the console font when I ran dpkg-reconfigure -a and now edgy isn't setting it's default on startup and the vt are displaying garbage chars in some apps.
[05:18] <sanityx> Grr synaptic wont launch.
[05:18] <fuel> sanityx: kill it and launch again
[05:18] <sanityx> I've dont a clean install of kubuntu + apt-get install synaptic.
[05:18] <fuel> sanityx: why do you use synaptic ?? use adept
[05:18] <sanityx> fuel, No, I'm going to use synaptic, thanks.
[05:19] <fuel> sanityx: why ?
[05:19] <darksider415> sanityx: I know that Feisty allows you to select whether it clocks down or not, but it's not out of alpha, yet.
[05:19] <SolidSource> sanityx: if its AMD...that is handled within the CPU itself, if youi use superkaramba > system monitor you will see it speed up under heavier loads...though there are methods to manually do it
[05:19] <Steven_M> any ideas on how do fix?
[05:19] <sanityx> SolidSource, Yeah I know the cpu handles it, but under windows I have a utility that lets me force it
[05:19] <sanityx> fuel, Because I already know it. No compelling reason not to?
[05:20] <SolidSource> sanityx: go to AMDs website...they have info about that for linux
[05:20] <sanityx> SolidSource, I'll check it out thanks.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> My laptop can speed up/down with kde under edgy..
[05:20] <sanityx> Dr_willis, manually?
[05:20] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: thats cause the kernel has the AMD driver built in
[05:20] <darksider415> Dr_willis: He wants to do so manually...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> i can force it to slow down, or speed up...
[05:21] <Dr_willis> theres some kde-applet that let me set what throttling to use
[05:21] <sidnelson> how do i monitor the memory consuming of only on process ? can i do with watch
[05:21] <Dr_willis> couldent play videos at less then 50% throttling.
[05:21] <sidnelson> processor cosuming  too
[05:22] <sanityx> SolidSource, It wouldn't be a problem, except that my CPU ALWAYS clocks down for some reason.
[05:22] <sanityx> Under linux, anyway.
[05:22] <Steven_M> I messed up the console font when I ran dpkg-reconfigure -a and now edgy isn't setting it's default on startup and the vt are displaying garbage chars in some apps. Any ideas how to fix it?
[05:22] <darksider415> sanityx: Mine did the same thing under Edgy. (Intel Core Duo)
[05:22] <SolidSource> sanityx: thats because it doesn't have that heavy enough load going through it
[05:22] <sanityx> Turion X2 here.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  rerun  that dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[05:22] <redcard> I cannot wait for my laptop to arrive... but.. are there any essential programs I'd need/want?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !find laptop
[05:23] <ubotu> Found: laptop-detect, laptop-mode-tools, education-laptop, klaptopdaemon, kpowersave (and 4 others)
[05:23] <darksider415> redcard: What do you want to do with it?
[05:23] <sanityx> sweet
[05:23] <sanityx> !laptop-mode-tools
[05:23] <ubotu> laptop-mode-tools: Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power. In component main, is optional. Version 1.31-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 348 kB
[05:23] <redcard> darksider415: Typical things.. write stuff/docs, etc..
[05:23] <Dr_willis> got a Turion laptop also
[05:23] <sanityx> turions aren't as nice as core duos unfortunately.
[05:23] <darksider415> redcard: You should be good to go, then. Just make sure to install libxine-extracodecs
[05:23] <sanityx> I learned that the hard way
[05:23] <redcard> darksider415: Mind you, I HAVE kubuntu right now. Been using it for a good long time.  It just occurred to me that I never used linux on a laptop :)
[05:24] <sanityx> redcard, What laptop are you getting?
[05:24] <redcard> sanityx: Dell E1405
[05:24] <sanityx> ah ok
[05:24] <darksider415> redcard: I'm running Kubuntu Feisty (Herd 5) on my Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002, and everything worked out of the box. Wireless, 3D video, everything.
[05:24] <sanityx> Well I don't know if this applies to the E1405, but on my dell inspiron 1501, the hard drives aren't detected by default
[05:24] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: why would it turn out better this time?
[05:25] <sanityx> redcard, If that happens to you, boot with the kernel parameter pci=nomsi
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  Huh?
[05:25] <redcard> sanityx: Huh
[05:25] <sanityx> Ok. Never mind. If it happens, you'll know what I meant.
[05:26] <sanityx> When I boot off Ubuntu, or almost any other distro, with the exception of knoppix, my hard drives aren't detected.
[05:26] <SolidSource> sanityx: do mean they aren't mounted?
[05:27] <sanityx> SolidSource, No.
[05:27] <sanityx> SolidSource, I mean the Kubuntu/Ubuntu installer says no hard drives found.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> if you do a 'fdisk -l' the drives dont show up at all ?
[05:27] <sanityx> no not at all
[05:27] <sanityx> Listen
[05:27] <sanityx>  I fixed it already
[05:27] <sanityx> I was just saying that for redcard's benifit.
[05:27] <Slynderdale> That is weird, I just choosed to restart Kubuntu and it went to the log off screen, but instead of cleanly shutting everything down, it simply went black and rebooted.
[05:27] <sanityx> With the dell inspiron 1501, you have to use pci=nomsi for the system to see your drives
[05:28] <Dr_willis> thats a new one.
[05:28] <redcard> sanityx: Thanks, I'll write it down and make certain I do that.
[05:28] <sanityx> redcard, Nono lol. Try booting first.
[05:28] <sanityx> redcard, If you have the problem, THEN do that.
[05:28] <redcard> sanityx: Well, yeah :) If I needed to :)
[05:28] <Mena> Dr_willis, can i update a single app
[05:29] <sanityx> I'm not sure what other models of dell laptop it does or doesn't affect.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Mena,  such as?
[05:29] <Mena> Dr_willis, bec there is a new updtae for inkscape and i cant update my ver
[05:29] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: If I rerun dpkg-reconfigure -a why would it out any differently this time?
[05:29] <Mena> Dr_willis, update*
[05:29] <daftman> hi
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  perhaps ya entered a wrong value somewhere.
[05:29] <Mena> Hello!
[05:29] <daftman> if I upgrade wine manually, through build from source
[05:29] <daftman> does it replace my wine in my apt-get ?
[05:30] <daftman> or does it create another app cal wine
[05:30] <daftman> *call
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Mena,  if the new version isent in the repositories.. well..  can you find pacages for it somewher else?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> bennukem: beinng sober sucks...
[05:30] <redcard> Okay. Sweet.   You can use the Xbox360 controller
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, oops, wrong window...by alot. sorry
[05:30] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: I wouldn
[05:30] <sanityx> Grr, I should not have to apt-get firefox.
[05:30] <redcard> Now I really want this laptop :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> daftman,  proberly to remoe the package with the tools.. then install from source.
[05:30] <sanityx> It should be there.
[05:30] <Mena> Dr_willis, i dont know i will see
[05:31] <Mena> Dr_willis, :)
[05:31] <daftman> so I should do apt-get remove wine --purge?
[05:31] <daftman> wouldn't that remove my .wine directory and my wine config?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> daftman,  the package manger should NEVER touch stuff in the users home dirs
[05:31] <Dr_willis> if it can do it.. ive never seen it done..
[05:32] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: I wouldn't know want the correct value is anyway, I just accepted the defaults.
[05:32] <daftman> ok thank you Dr_Willis
[05:32] <Master_Kale> Dr_willis: is it usual to have a laptop keyboard that freaks out, repeating key strokes or popping up menus that I haven't called up?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  heh. i hate the look of the drfault font.. but the thing proberl asks what default font to use.
[05:32] <Skreech2> Hello
[05:32] <darksider415> Master_Kale: What model notebook?
[05:32] <Master_Kale> HP dv5030us
[05:33] <Skreech2> Can the Kubuntu installer resize/repartition NTFS ?
[05:33] <Skreech2> !laptop
[05:33] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  try the 'consolechars -d' command see if it sets your fonts back to normal
[05:34] <Mena> Dr_willis, i must The installed one befor using the update right bec i have it as autopackage
[05:34] <Steven_M> Dr_willis:  ok thanks, as root?
[05:34] <Mena> remove*
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  not sure.. just tried it in the console and it reset my fonts back to the 'normal' defaults.
[05:34] <Mena> never mind :)
[05:34] <Mena> i will remove it
[05:35] <Dr_willis> its not a perment fix.. but that command can let ay change the fonts to try the other console fonts out also.
[05:35] <Steven_M> ok thanks :)
[05:35] <Skreech2> Dr_willis: I can safely resize ntfs dives on install right?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Skreech2,  i think you should 'defrag' and 'scandisk' befor..
[05:36] <Skreech2> Defragging now
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i THINK the instller can resize ntfs. but i always use a 2nd hd for linux
[05:36] <Skreech2> Whats the Scandisk for?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> to be safe :)
[05:36] <Skreech2> Ah Yeah it's a laptop though
[05:37] <bioflame> hello all
[05:37] <Skreech2> So dropping in a second hard drive doesn't feel like much of an option
[05:37] <redcard> Oh, here's an interesting thought.  That Dell I'm getting is going to have Vista on it.. can I resize Vista?
[05:37] <bioflame> how do i stop the xserver
[05:38] <Dr_willis> bioflame,  - sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop    (is 1 way)
[05:38] <bioflame> thx
[05:38] <Skreech2> bioflame: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:38] <Skreech2> To simply restart Alt+ctrl+BkSpc
[05:38] <Skreech2> Save your work first :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> yep- alt-ctrl-backspace is the Kick-X in the  head method.
[05:39] <Skreech2> Anyone has tried to resize NTFS with the Kubuntu installer?
[05:40] <darksider415> I have, and it usually works with NTFS partitions written by XP, but not with Vista.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Skreech2,  now that you mention it.. i did use the instller to resize my laptops ntfs drive.
[05:40] <Skreech2> Dr_willis: Sweet :0
[05:40] <Dr_willis> glad to help. :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:40] <Skreech2> Thats all I need to hear :)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> just dont let that 'bad' grub mess you up. :P
[05:41] <Skreech2> Naw I ate earlier :)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Grub is an amazing tool...
[05:41] <redcard> Dr_willis: Might I ask you if that would work on Vista?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I have yet to even see a machine running vista
[05:42] <Dr_willis> ;)
[05:42] <redcard> Ah :)  I've seen a few through my job.  We do programming on .NET / MFC and what not.
[05:42] <Skreech2> redcard: I have un authortative data that says that it should work on Vista if it works on XP
[05:42] <Skreech2> YMMV
[05:43] <redcard> Skreech2: Cool enough :)
[05:43] <darksider415> redcard: I know for a fact that M$ has modified NTFS to where the ntfs resizing tools in the Kubuntu installer won't work, but Vista has a built-in resizing tool that does work pretty well.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> gee.. that is nice of MS isent it...
[05:43] <Steven_M> Dr_willis:  what encoding should I select in dpkg-recnfigure setup?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> first ive herad that.. makes ya wonder what they did to makeit where you cant resize it.
[05:44] <redcard> darksider415: Heh :) Does that present any problems with the bootloader?
[05:44] <LL_Hakaisou> hello
[05:44] <Dr_willis> stefan,  not sure.. ive rarely messed with encodeing stuff
[05:44] <bonbonthejon> hi LL_Hakaisou
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  i mean. :()
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  not sure how to tell what the defaults are either. :(
[05:44] <Skreech2> Dr_willis: It's big-endian now :)
[05:45] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: ok
[05:45] <darksider415> GRUB doesn't see the Vista partition, but you can manually add it later. I'm speaking of my experience with my Grandpa's Toshiba, which frustrated me to the point of just doing a clean Kubuntu install, since he's got the install discs.
[05:46] <Skreech2> darksider415: See I always try a full install first :)
[05:46] <redcard> darksider415: Darn.  Can you use Vista's bootloader like you could with NT's?
[05:46] <Skreech2> You can set NT's bootloader to load Linux?
[05:46] <sidnelson> VLC is a good player for mpeg video ??
[05:46] <Dr_willis> i like vlc
[05:46] <darksider415> redcard: You can manually edit GRUB to add Vista to the menu.lst
[05:46] <bonbonthejon> vlc is nice
[05:47] <redcard> darksider415: Ahh.
[05:48] <sidnelson> ok
[05:48] <sidnelson> thnks
[05:48] <redcard> Oh.. what do you guys use for wireless?  knetworkmanager?
[05:48] <sidnelson> i will try
[05:48] <Dr_willis> i run wires. :)
[05:48] <darksider415> I tell you, everyone I know with a Vista machine has asked me to install Kubuntu within three days of purchase... I think I like Microsoft, if only for helping to fix Ubuntu's number 1 bug...
[05:48] <jack> hi i accidentally changed the keyboard layouts and cannot make in unhappen in the system settings..y and z are swapped, ger and american lazout..anyone an idea_
[05:48] <redcard> darksider415: Well, I'm ambivelant towards vista.  But.. I'm getting it for free with the dell.
[05:49] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: what's the command for reconfiguring the fonts?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  consolechars can set them
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Steven_M,  tjers some scripts/settings/services that sets them automaticially.
[05:50] <jarn> How do I configure what Konversation outputs when I type /media
[05:51] <brittany> kind of new. anyone know any good irc servers?
[05:51] <Steven_M> Dr_willis:  nope, no defult font found?
[05:51] <sanityx> Am I retarded, or is there really not a gui tool for changing themes included by default
[05:51] <Dr_willis> UTF-8 UNI seem to be the defaults Steven_M
[05:53] <dx11101> hi
[05:53] <sanityx> Ok seriously how do I choose a theme.
[05:53] <Steven_M> Dr_willis: got to go to dinner now, see ya
[05:53] <Dr_willis> UTF-8 UNI FIXED 16           seem to be the defaults Steven_M
[05:54] <Steven_M> ta
[05:54] <Dr_willis> sanityx,  theres the theme/appearance tools  - i add the  'settings' kde panel applet to get to the items easier
[05:54] <sanityx> Dr_willis, all I see is look and feel under system settings, and its not there. I'll check the applet though thanks
[05:54] <arunkale> Hey people
[05:54] <Skreech2> jarn: It's what is playing in your media player
[05:55] <bonbonthejon> hi arunkale
[05:55] <jarn> Skreech2: I know. I want to change what data it displays.
[05:55] <Skreech2> Ah
[05:55] <sanityx> ah i see it now thanks
[05:55] <Skreech2> Like in Kopete?
[05:55] <jarn> Yep.
[05:55] <arunkale> I just got a new PC (AMD 64), with an nVidia graphics card -- which package should I download to install it?
[05:56] <sanityx> Dr_willis, I don't see the default Kubuntu theme listed in it. Weird.
[05:56] <arunkale> and are there any reported bugs with AMD64 PCs
[05:57] <jarn> Skreech2: Do you know how to do that?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sanityx,  in the kde theme manager?
[05:57] <sanityx> Dr_willis, yes.
[05:57] <Skreech2> jarn: Not sure check inside of Command List in Configure ?
[05:57] <sanityx> I see the typical KDE themes, but not the Kubuntu theme
[05:58] <Dr_willis> sanityx,  hmm  I thought kubuntu defaulted to 'plastik'
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I always set to plastik anyway
[05:58] <jarn> Skreech2: It does "/exec media"
[05:58] <Dr_willis> i got about 12 themes in there.
[05:58] <sanityx> Doesn't look like plastk to me
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I like pkastik. :)
[05:58] <sanityx> I used to like it
[05:59] <Skreech2> jarn: Nope don't think I ever played with that. I'd have to relook at it
[05:59] <arunkale> btw, what's the difference between a DVD iso and a CD iso? Does the DVD have anything extra?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> dvds are normally in UDF filesystem isent they?
[06:00] <jarn> Skreech2: Okay.
[06:00] <jarn> Skreech2: Thanks anyway.
[06:01] <arunkale> Are there any reported problems with running Kubuntu on AMD64 PCs? Or with nVidia graphics cards?
[06:01] <arunkale> I had Kubuntu installed on my earlier Intel PC, was using it for about  a year.. that had an on board video card
[06:01] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  youmean using the 64bit disrto on the amd64 cpus?
[06:01] <sanityx> Hmm the default applications control comes up as a blank window
[06:02] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  i find using the 32bit disrtos much easier to do.
[06:02] <arunkale> Dr_willis: no, the Kubuntu Web site seems to have a separate download for the AMD64 CPUs.. I want the 32bit distro
[06:02] <Dr_willis> use the other one then.. Not the amd64 then. :)
[06:02] <Skreech2> !amd6
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <Skreech2> !amd64
[06:02] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:02] <sanityx> Yeah you definitely do not want to run the 64 bit distro. Its asking for trouble.
[06:03] <arunkale> I am downloading a torrent called : kubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[06:03] <Skreech2> !nvidia
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <Dr_willis> torrent? heh.
[06:03] <arunkale> thanks
[06:03] <arunkale> why?
[06:03] <arunkale> :)
[06:03] <arunkale> dont like torrents?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> every time i download a disrto over a torrent.. its soooooo slow.
[06:03] <Skreech2> jarn: Sure. you can ask in #kde aswell :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> ftp servers are much faster
[06:03] <jarn> Skreech2: I did, noone has responded yet.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> unless you get real lucky
[06:03] <Skreech2> :-)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.  - would be the 64bit distro.
[06:04] <arunkale> damn
[06:04] <arunkale> so I should get the i386?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> yes...
[06:04] <Dr_willis> for the 3rd time. :) heh heh
[06:04] <sanityx> definitely
[06:04] <arunkale> Hah thanks
[06:04] <sanityx> AMD64 is only useful if you have some specific need for it.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> like a uber-haxor
[06:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <arunkale> I thought I was required to use that version on my AMD64 pc
[06:05] <sanityx> nope
[06:05] <sanityx> thats just to run in 64 bit mode
[06:05] <arunkale> Cool
[06:05] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  NOPE 100% not needed
[06:05] <arunkale> Thanks
[06:05] <Dr_willis> someonme else inhere had the same misscomception .
[06:05] <sanityx> someday things will go fully 64 bit
[06:05] <sanityx> but for now your life is easier if you stick to 32
[06:06] <arunkale> Will it install nVidia drivers by default? Or will I have to do it manually
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <arunkale> Yeah, I saw that.. I'm just wondering if it installs an older open source version of the driver or something .. thanks, though
[06:07] <Dr_willis> the open version is the 'nv' drivers..
[06:07] <Dr_willis> the nvidia comercial drivers are the 'nvidia' ones
[06:07] <arunkale> ah, thanks
[06:07] <arunkale> And one more thing, I would like to install Beryl
[06:07] <Dr_willis> id avoude beryl for the time beeing.
[06:08] <arunkale> How so?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> its just a hassle.. :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> if you MUST play with the eye candy.. find a live cd with it.. and show it off.
[06:09] <arunkale> Hehe
[06:09] <arunkale> Also, right now, I am running Windows XP, I have 4 logical hard drives
[06:09] <Skreech2> !beryl
[06:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:09] <arunkale> I want to use one of them for Kubuntu
[06:09] <arunkale> (dual boot)
[06:10] <Skreech2> arunkale: If I may make a suggestion :)
[06:10] <arunkale> How do I install Kubuntu in the 4th logical hard drive without reinstalling windows first
[06:10] <arunkale> Skreech2: sure
[06:10] <Skreech2> For now just have the two partitions (/ and swap) but look into having a partition for /home
[06:10] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  clean off the data ya want on that drive.. delete the 4partition. so its unallocated. and let the install partiton it.
[06:11] <arunkale> Ok, so I should just install it in the unformatted space?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> not unformated.. 'unallocated'
[06:11] <arunkale> What's the difference
[06:12] <Dr_willis>  you can have C: thats unformated.. but   unallocated = not even in a partition.
[06:12] <arunkale> Yeah, so I'll delete the partition, that's what I meant.. it'll just be empty space
[06:12] <sep1319> i could be wrong, but you don't necessarily need to delete it, just leave it empty and formatted as ext3 or what you want, and then manually pick it as your / in the installer
[06:12] <arunkale> Sorry if I didn't use the correct term, that's what i meant
[06:12] <Dr_willis> unallocated space. :)
[06:12] <arunkale> cool
[06:12] <arunkale> I dont have anything in that drive anyway, I have left it empty for Linux
[06:13] <sep1319> good deal.
[06:13] <arunkale> 40GB should be more than enough I guess
[06:13] <Dr_willis> that 'partition' :)
[06:13] <sep1319> heh yeah
[06:13] <arunkale> yeah, that partition
[06:13] <Dr_willis> windows teaches SUCH bad habbits
[06:13] <arunkale> Yup, I agree
[06:13] <sep1319> me too
[06:13] <arunkale> NP: Brain Damage / Pink Floyd
[06:13] <arunkale> I saw Roger Waters live last month
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Brain Dead windows lemming zombies.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <sep1319> not necessarily, most just don't bother to know how to use their comps at all.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> lets just all start calling directories 'folders' !! :)
[06:15] <arunkale> I've learnt a lot about computers since I started using Kubuntu
[06:15] <arunkale> Hardware, etc
[06:16] <arunkale> How do I burn a bootable DVD
[06:16] <sep1319> arunkale: http://tinyurl.com/pj3te is how i put kubuntu on my laptop, basically. it was pretty apinless.
[06:17] <sep1319> painless*
[06:17] <arunkale> thanks sep
[06:17] <sep1319> np
[06:17] <arunkale> When I was using it before
[06:17] <arunkale> I got the fonts to render like OS X
[06:17] <arunkale> Arial has never looked to good
[06:17] <arunkale> And I don't even need to use a Mac, hah
[06:18] <sep1319> hehe. its amazing that maceys can get as ignorant as windows users
[06:19] <arunkale> looked so* good
[06:19] <Chtiland> Id' like to compile kxdocker but when i try to install libqt3-mt-dev it doesn't work... any suggestion ?
[06:19] <arunkale> Hey, my Logitech USB mouse will work with Kubuntu, right?
[06:20] <sep1319> it should, yeah
[06:20] <bonbonthejon> arunkale: most likely, if it has extra buttons it might take some work to get them to work
[06:20] <arunkale> nah, just the regular 3
[06:20] <sep1319> it should work without a problem
[06:20] <sep1319> (we hope)
[06:20] <Allan> holaaa
[06:20] <Allan> alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[06:21] <arunkale> and in the future, if I get an external hard drive, should I look for any specific ones?
[06:21] <Allan> alguien que hable espanil
[06:21] <Allan> espaniol
[06:21] <Allan> :/
[06:22] <arunkale> sep1319: nice article, btw
[06:22] <sep1319> thnx
[06:22] <rivernet6> is anyone in this room
[06:22] <sep1319> all i did was google ubuntu dualboot
[06:23] <stdin> !es | Alllan
[06:23] <ubotu> Alllan: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:23] <arunkale> sep1319: what should I set as the size of my swap
[06:23] <Alllan> stdin,
[06:23] <Alllan> gracias
[06:23] <stdin> :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> rivernet6,  No >:)
[06:23] <Alllan> =*
[06:23] <sep1319> arunkale: double the size of your RAM, like it says
[06:23] <Alllan> hahahaha
[06:23] <Dr_willis> swap of 2x ram size - is a bit silly these days
[06:24] <Dr_willis> if i have 4gb ram  - i dont need 8gb of swap
[06:24] <arunkale> I was using 512MB RAM earlier, and I had set the swap to 512MB
[06:24] <sep1319> that would work too
[06:24] <arunkale> I have 1GB RAM now
[06:24] <Dr_willis> if i had 512mb ram - id set 1 or 2 gb swap
[06:24] <igorjr> hi
[06:25] <Dr_willis> for my needs i find 512mb swap at a minimum. :) and i rarely need more on most of my machines
[06:25] <igorjr> i have a question
[06:25] <Dr_willis> you could always add a swap file later if needed.
[06:25] <sep1319> thnx for the backup, Doc.
[06:25] <igorjr> when i run "kdesu konqueror" the passwort-window opens
[06:25] <igorjr> i type the password in but then nothing further happens
[06:25] <Dr_willis> running konqueror as root.. is not awlasya a good idea.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> not 'always' :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> what are you doing that needs root and konwueror?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> that he then closes when done
[06:26] <igorjr> i want to set folder-persmissions
[06:26] <igorjr> o_0
[06:26] <cyt> Hi all, does the Kubuntu Herd5 released with the standard KDE menu or Kickoff menu from SuSE?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> igorjr,  you can eaially do that from the shell.
[06:27] <darksider415> Standard KDE, AFAIK.
[06:27] <igorjr> i'm quite new to this
[06:27] <Dr_willis> I hate that kickoff menu. :)
[06:27] <igorjr> the manual told me to do so
[06:27] <Chtiland> 512 RAM and 1Gb SWAP ?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> igorjr, which manual?
[06:27] <cyt> Dr_willis: haha, why?
[06:27] <igorjr> the kubuntu manual ;)
[06:27] <Jucato> cyt: no kickoff menu *from SUSE*
[06:28] <Jucato> by that itself, you know that it's a SUSE only thing/default
[06:28] <stdin> cyt: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu-devel please, and it's the standard menu
[06:28] <sep1319> Chtland: that's what i have, and it's served me well.
[06:28] <Chtiland> I got 1 Gb RAM and my swap is set to 1 Gb too, and in fact only 100Mb is used in my swap (and most of the time 0)
[06:28] <arunkale> Hey, Jucato
[06:28] <igorjr> Dr_willis: can you tell me, how i do it via shell?
[06:28] <arunkale> long time
[06:28] <sep1319> yeah
[06:28] <igorjr> Dr_willis: but i'm a nooby ;)
[06:28] <Dr_willis> igorjr,  'sudo chmod +whateveriptions   /path/to/directory
[06:28] <Jucato> hi arunkale! I was just here 12 hours ago :P
[06:28] <cyt> stdin: ok :)
[06:28] <arunkale> No, I'm in the room after a long time
[06:28] <Jucato> arunkale: and I saw you as well :D
[06:28] <arunkale> Really? That's weird
[06:29] <Jucato> strange..
[06:29] <Jucato> an nvm.. some other person lol
[06:29] <arunkale> I've come here after a couple months
[06:29] <arunkale> I got a new PC
[06:29] <igorjr> dr_willis: i didn't quite get this ;)
[06:29] <Jucato> kool kool :)
[06:29] <Jucato> Dr_willis: try to be a bit noob-friendly :P
[06:30] <arunkale> I am looking to buy a USB external hard drive/memory stick soon.. should I keep anything in mind when I buy it?
[06:30] <igorjr> anyhow
[06:30] <Dr_willis>  kdesu konqueror          works for me.. odd
[06:30] <igorjr> yeah
[06:30] <igorjr> is strange for me too :(
[06:30] <Dr_willis> you are using your users password?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> caps lock not on...
[06:31] <igorjr> i'll try it again a several times
[06:31] <Dr_willis> try kdesu konsole  :)
[06:31] <carutsu> scuse me anyone knows if BOINC is on the kubuntu repostories?
[06:31] <Jucato> Dr_willis: kdesu konsole? lol
[06:31] <Dr_willis> !info boinc
[06:31] <ubotu> Package boinc does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:31] <weswh-> will it be feasible to upgrade from edgey to fiesty? or will it probably be a reinstall situation?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> !find boinc
[06:31] <ubotu> Found: boinc-app-seti, boinc-client, boinc-dev, boinc-manager, kboincspy (and 1 others)
[06:31] <darksider415> This is weird.. I know my mobile is set to mount itself as a USB Mass Storage Device, and I know it worked a few minutes ago, and now it isn't.. No reboots, nothing...
[06:31] <igorjr> console works with kdesu
[06:31] <Jucato> boinc-client
[06:32] <igorjr> konqueror still not working
[06:32] <igorjr> o_0
[06:32] <Dr_willis> igorjr,  NOW try running 'konqueror' from that root-konsole.
[06:32] <darksider415> weswh-: It was a pretty easy upgrade on my notebook... Just change the name of the repositories and it worked..
[06:32] <igorjr> i c
[06:32] <weswh-> neat...
[06:32] <Jucato> O.o
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I rember now, why i always install 'mc' :)
[06:33] <igorjr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:33] <Jucato> igorjr: doesn't Alt+F2, "kdesu konqueror" wokr?
[06:33] <slyfox> Why is it then when I set Remember password in Kmail and store password in Kwallet and always allow access for Kmail to Kwallet, it keeps on asking me for the password when I want send an email.
[06:33] <Jucato> work*
[06:33] <carutsu> thank you!
[06:33] <Chtiland> nobody to tell me how to compile kxdocker uneder kubuntu ?
[06:33] <igorjr> jucato: i type in the password, then nothing further happens
[06:33] <Master_Kale> will rdesktop work with VMWare Player?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Chtiland,  last we messed with kxdocker in this channel  few weeks ago.. it was a rather.. welll badly written program. ;)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Chtiland,  most of us coudlent even get it to compile right
[06:34] <Jucato> igorjr: how about "kdesu konqueror" in **a normal** Konsole?
[06:34] <darksider415> Chitland: I used Kooldock on my notebook, which has pre-compiled binaries for Ubuntu/Debian.
[06:34] <arunkale> what's the difference between downloading a DVD iso and CD iso? Does the DVD have anything extra
[06:34] <igorjr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:34] <Dr_willis> arunkale,   i wouldent bother with the dvd
[06:34] <igorjr> this is the consoloe message
[06:34] <Jucato> igorjr: aside from those errors?
[06:34] <Jucato> igorjr: does it launch at all?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> igorjr,  ignroe those BadDevice warnings.. :)
[06:34] <arunkale> alright, thanks
[06:34] <stdin> arunkale: the DVD just has more packages on the disk, the install is the same
[06:35] <igorjr> konqueror launches normal
[06:35] <arunkale> which packages
[06:35] <igorjr> but not with kdesu
[06:35] <m_> i need the librarie g++ how do i get it?
[06:35] <igorjr> or kdesu konsole and then konqueror
[06:35] <Jucato> arunkale: DVD has more packages and more install options, both as live DVD and command line based installer
[06:35] <Jucato> igorjr: no.. kdesu konqueror in a plain Konsole. after the device errors, konqueror launches, right?
[06:35] <IgorSobreira> hey....anybody can give me a good sources.list....i can get many things in my apt
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:36] <igorjr> kdsu konqueror in normal console gets me the same error message
[06:36] <Jucato> igorjr: if yes, that Konqueror is already running as root
[06:36] <igorjr> no, it doesn't launch at all
[06:36] <igorjr> that's my problem ;)
[06:36] <arunkale> When I was using Kubuntu on my old PC, the package manager would behave in the same way.. I sometimes had to run it twice and enter the password and then it showed up
[06:36] <Jucato> igorjr: **Ignore the BadDevice error message**
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[06:36] <Jucato> !pastebin | igorjr
[06:36] <ubotu> igorjr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <stdin> arunkale: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.list us a list of files on the disk, look under /pool for the packages
[06:37] <Jucato> igorjr: can you pastebin all the error messages that appear when you type "kdesu konqueror" in *a normal* konsole?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[06:37] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:37] <arunkale> stdin: thanks
[06:37] <igorjr> k, one moment
[06:38] <arunkale> One more thing, how do I share my Thunderbird between my Windows and Linux partitions
[06:38] <igorjr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8494/
[06:38] <igorjr> here you go
[06:39] <Jucato> igorjr: that's it? nothing else follows? and no window opens?
[06:39] <igorjr> nothing
[06:39] <weswh-> i need to upgrade my version of ktorrent to 2.1 - how do i go about doing that? i'm not used to upgrading to versions outside of the release
[06:39] <igorjr> i'm quite sure about this
[06:39] <Jucato> jok really weird....
[06:40] <igorjr> hmm, i try to shut the whole session down and start with a new one
[06:40] <Jucato> weswh-: you will either have to compile, or install the .deb package for it. 2.1 isn't available on Edgy through the repositories..
[06:41] <IgorSobreira> anybody could give me a good sources.list??
[06:41] <arunkale> Should I get Beryl or not?
[06:41] <weswh-> jucato: which of those is likely easier? :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> some new gotta have features in ktorrent 2.1 ?
[06:41] <weswh-> Dr_willis: well, the torrent site i use is saying it has to be done. don't know why
[06:41] <Jucato> weswh-: the .deb... but just be careful...
[06:41] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  oh? its rejecting the older client eh?
[06:42] <bioflame> hey all
[06:42] <weswh-> Dr_willis: not yet, i just got a message that the tracker is reporting an outdated client. on their 'allowed' list ktorrent says 2.1 or greater now
[06:42] <bioflame> i need to set my refresh rate
[06:42] <bioflame> in xorg.conf
[06:42] <weswh-> so if i don't upgrade eventually i'll probably be banned. heh
[06:42] <bioflame> what line do i add
[06:42] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  use 'wine utorrent.exe' :)
[06:42] <igorjr> now it works
[06:42] <igorjr> i restarted the session
[06:43] <Jucato> igorjr: kool
[06:43] <danielches> hi, i need help installing the java plugin for firefox, its just not working for me
[06:43] <weswh-> i actually really like ktorrent.
[06:44] <igorjr> i used utorrent under windows
[06:44] <igorjr> an i got some files left to download
[06:44] <igorjr> any chance to do it with kubuntu?
[06:45] <weswh-> sure..
[06:45] <weswh-> there's always that chance. heh
[06:45] <Dr_willis>   use 'wine utorrent.exe' :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> of coruse ya got to have the downloade files set in the right places.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> and the .torrent files
[06:45] <danielches> i ahve installed sun-java5-plugin, and that installed itself, but firefox still says no java plugin
[06:46] <danielches> also, the real player plugin is not working for me
[06:46] <igorjr> i heard, utorrent doesnt connect under wine
[06:46] <weswh-> Jucato: what do i need to be careful of with this .deb?
[06:46] <Chtiland> Thaniks Dr_willis for kxdocker, is there better alternative ?
[06:46] <weswh-> it says it's specifically for edgy
[06:47] <Jucato> weswh-: it's not from the Ubuntu repositories. so it's not something Ubuntu can guarantee you :)
[06:48] <weswh-> understood - but shouldn't be any more concerned with it than compiling from source right
[06:49] <danielches> any help?
[06:49] <Jucato> but it's ok to install that .deb
[06:49] <danielches> my firefox has also decided to uninstall the dictionary plugin
[06:49] <danielches> since it deemed it incomplatible with ff2
[06:50] <arunkale> does any one know why the icon for firefox 2 has jagged edges
[06:50] <danielches> ?
[06:51] <arunkale> the icon's outline is not smooth for me
[06:51] <ubuntu> !wireless
[06:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:52] <weswh-> hmm, a little confused. i execute this .deb and it launches Ark, and then shows me 3 files inside of it, and the only options i really see are "extract"
[06:52] <weswh-> do i have to extract something first and then install? i assumed it would be a ready to go script or something
[06:52] <Jucato> weswh-: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[06:52] <danielches> with ff icon, i had that at first
[06:52] <danielches> then i changed the icon file
[06:52] <danielches> to one on the system instead of the one whihc comes int he ff folder
[06:53] <danielches> and it became clearer
[06:53] <arunkale> cool
[06:53] <danielches> i'm going to donwload ff again
[06:53] <arunkale> Also, does anyone know how to get openoffice to use the default font rendering rather than it's own font rendering?
[06:53] <danielches> mine is just stuffed :(
[06:54] <arunkale> #openoffice
[06:54] <arunkale> sorry
[06:54] <darksider415> Does anyone know how to get a TI SD card reader to work under either Edgy or Feisty?
[06:57] <arunkale> ?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> darksider415,  build in card readers in a laptop?
[06:58] <darksider415> Dr_willis: Yes.
[06:58] <ubuntu> !broadcom
[06:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:58] <Dr_willis> darksider415,  some laptops  have thost things with very little if any support in linux for them sadly.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> darksider415,  i found it eaier to get a usb reader  for my media
[07:00] <sanityx> Anybody know a good graphical tool for wifi that supports WPA
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !find wifi
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: wifi-radar, kwifimanager
[07:01] <sanityx> wifi-radar is no good
[07:01] <weswh-> so upgrading to fiesty is basically as easy as changing your repos, and then having it update all of your software to the newest release ver?
[07:01] <sanityx> maybe kwifi will work
[07:01] <weswh-> or, specifying software to upgrade..
[07:02] <darksider415> Dr_willis: I know there's kernel support in 2.6.17+ for mine, based on the lspci information, commentary from Fedora users and the changelog. dmesg shows that I'm inserting a card, and that it's an SD card. Even the little light showing a card is being accessed will blink for a moment, but nothing is mounting.
[07:02] <Dr_willis> darksider415,  check dmesg output. and try mounting it manually?
[07:03] <ubuntu> !upgrade
[07:03] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:04] <sanityx> Neither of them handle WPA
[07:04] <sanityx> the first one tries to but doesn't really
[07:04] <me2win> get the wpa package
[07:05] <sanityx> me2win, Nono I have wpa working
[07:05] <sanityx> But every time I want to connect to a new wpa network i have to drop down to the terminal
[07:05] <sanityx> I was hoping for a graphical tool that just worked.
[07:05] <sanityx> WEP works fine with the graphical tool
[07:05] <me2win> knetworkmanager has it
[07:06] <sanityx> ill try it thanks
[07:06] <nixternal> sanityx: I connect between WEP/WPA/WPA2 networks w/o dropping to the CLI using KNetworkManager
[07:06] <carutsu> how do i compile from source?
[07:06] <nixternal> it is the cat's meow in Feisty
[07:06] <carutsu> i mean i want KNetwoekManager
[07:07] <nixternal> carutsu: use Adept to install it
[07:07] <me2win> sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[07:07] <nixternal> thank the wonderful people over at OpenSUSE for KNetworkManager :)
[07:07] <me2win> or use adept :P
[07:07] <carutsu> adept just like any other?
[07:07] <nixternal> man the KDE work they churn out rocks!
[07:08] <nixternal> yes
[07:08] <carutsu> nictermal: thak you
[07:08] <me2win> nixternal: agreed, suse is my second favorite distro
[07:08] <carutsu> nixtermal: thak you
[07:08] <nixternal> distro wise I can't stand RPM, but ya, OpenSUSE is good
[07:08] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:08] <nixternal> actually, the top 50 distros, except for Gentoo :), is good
[07:08] <me2win> gentoo is for ricers
[07:09] <me2win> the website, not a racial slur :P
[07:09] <carutsu> nixternal: KNetworkManager is better than Wireless Assistant, right?
[07:09] <nixternal> carutsu: way better
[07:09] <sanityx> nixternal, Interesting, it doesn't detect any networks at all on my computer.
[07:09] <me2win> carutsu: yeah knetwork manager rocks
[07:09] <sanityx> yet iwconfig scanning does
[07:09] <sanityx> or iwlist rather
[07:09] <nixternal> sanityx: you may need to config /etc/network/interfaces possibly
[07:10] <sanityx> eh.
[07:10] <carutsu> thank you
[07:10] <sanityx> i have wifi working. im using it right now. just manually.
[07:10] <me2win> yakuake FTW
[07:10] <nixternal> me2win: ditto :)
[07:10] <me2win> when i DO need the CLI, yakuake is a life saver
[07:11] <sanityx> whats yakuake
[07:11] <nixternal> I am constantly in Yakuake, IRSSI is running there as well as Emacs, and all of my svn repos
[07:11] <nixternal> sanityx: think of it as a drop down Konsole
[07:11] <me2win> nixternal: yeah i like having irssi running for it also
[07:11] <sanityx> ook
[07:11] <sanityx> like screen?
[07:11] <nixternal> terminal, screen is a command
[07:12] <me2win> sanityx: imagine that everytime you hit F12, a konsole drops down from the sy for you to use, and when you hit F12 again, it goes away
[07:12] <me2win> sky*
[07:12] <sanityx> nice
[07:12] <sanityx> wait this runs in kde?
[07:12] <me2win> yep
[07:12] <sanityx> I must have it.
[07:12] <me2win> sudo apt-get install yakuake
[07:12] <sanityx> im already convinced
[07:12] <sanityx> thats the greatest thing ever.
[07:12] <nixternal> hehe
[07:12] <me2win> i added mine to startup and it is beautiful
[07:12] <arunkale> Does anyone here use Kontact?
[07:12] <me2win> always there, i dont even think of it as a seperate proram
[07:13] <nixternal> arunkale: I live by kontact :)
[07:13] <nixternal> what's up?
[07:13] <niles> hi
[07:13] <me2win> niles: 'allo
[07:13] <nixternal> haha
[07:13] <arunkale> nixternal: no, i'm just wondering.. it's such an awesome program.. it needs to get a lot more publicity
[07:13] <niles> how can i confirm my nvidia drivers are installed
[07:13] <Dr_willis> dang it - cant get flash working
[07:13] <me2win> fglrxinfo
[07:13] <me2win> err
[07:13] <nixternal> arunkale: it needs *A LOT* more bug fixes. IMAP users still cuss Kontact
[07:14] <sanityx> I used to have this network packet sniffer that would show images being viewed on the network, any idea what that might be?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !severas
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about severas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:14] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:14] <nixternal> niles: glxinfo |grep render
[07:14] <nixternal> niles: run that at the command line
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !backports
[07:14] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:14] <me2win> niles: there ya go, what he said
[07:14] <arunkale> nixternal: hmm..
[07:14] <arunkale> nixternal: but it just seems like so awesome
[07:14] <arunkale> it has everthing
[07:14] <sanityx> The flash in the repos says its version 7 or something. is that just ubuntu's internal version?
[07:14] <arunkale> and a nice interface
[07:14] <nixternal> arunkale: I use POP3 with it and it is awesome, no problems from me
[07:15] <nixternal> arunkale: yes, way better than Outlook I think
[07:15] <arunkale> nixternal: way better than thunderbird, i am thinking
[07:15] <nixternal> arunkale: and they are currently working on improving it, not only for KDE4
[07:15] <arunkale> nixternal: at least interface-wise
[07:15] <niles> nixternal: http://rafb.net/p/uy7aJ650.html
[07:16] <nixternal> niles: can you paste your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf there as well?
[07:16] <niles> i belive the drivers are installed.  i went according to the kubuntu site.  but i dont know how to configure xorg conf to tell it which bus my nvidia card is on?
[07:16] <fyrmedic> Should
[07:16] <nixternal> oh
[07:16] <nixternal> niles: nvidia-xconfig
[07:16] <nixternal> I think that is it
[07:16] <niles> nixternal:  well i coppied it from knoppix.  not the greatest thing.  i should roll back to the backup
[07:16] <niles> oh
[07:16] <nixternal> nvidia- then hit tab a couple of times
[07:16] <niles> oh ok
[07:16] <nixternal> I don't have my nvidia box running to check
[07:16] <userund> me2win: great little prog, never heard of it.  thanks
[07:16] <arunkale> nixternal: would you be able to enlighten me on how I can share my email between my windows and kubuntu partitions?
[07:17] <nixternal> arunkale: what are you using for windows?
[07:17] <me2win> userund: yakuake? np, i think everyone should use it, it r0x :D
[07:17] <nixternal> Outlook doesn't do mbox
[07:17] <niles> nixternal: should i roll back to the org.conf back up first?  since the current one is coppied from knoppix?
[07:17] <arunkale> nixternal: thunderbird
[07:17] <niles> ot will that command fix it
[07:17] <slyfox> !kompile
[07:17] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 904 kB
[07:17] <fyrmedic>  Should I use the 64 bit kernel with AMD 64x2?
[07:17] <nixternal> niles: yes
[07:17] <userund> me2win: yeah, and using alt+space makes it so accessible
[07:17] <margis> hello
[07:17] <nixternal> hello margis
[07:18] <niles> nixternal: yes as in roll back,  or yes,  it will autoconfigure.  sorry.
[07:18] <arunkale> fyrmedic: what's up, i just got a PC with the same config
[07:18] <Dr_willis> fyrmedic,  id avoide the 64bit disrtos.. stick with 32bit. less hassle
[07:18] <arunkale> fyrmedic: people suggested i use the i386 version
[07:18] <nixternal> niles: give the nvidia thing a whirl, if it doesn't work, then rollback
[07:18] <Jucato> !compile | slyfox
[07:18] <ubotu> slyfox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:18] <margis> i have  kubuntu and xp on my system.....i want to install vista....can i just make a partition and install? any conflict?
[07:18] <niles> thanx pal
[07:18] <me2win> userund: hehe yeah, i like F12 cuz i run this on a laptop, but i use ctrl+space on my desktop
[07:19] <me2win> margis: depends on the version of vista
[07:19] <me2win> margis: if you are running business or ultimate, you might have to make a seperate partition for vista cuz of bitlocking
[07:19] <niles> nixternal: im assuming i'll have to restart correct?
[07:19] <fyrmedic> arunkale;I just got a notebook and am having a lot of problems. Most of them come from my attempts at getting the sound drivers to work but i wonder if using the other kernel would help
[07:19] <niles> reboot
[07:19] <sanityx> the terminal should open when you press ~ :-P
[07:19] <nixternal> niles: yes
[07:19] <niles> thanx
[07:19] <slyfox> margis: Good choice, after you will install Vista, you will RUN to Linux :-)
[07:19] <margis> i talk about ultimate
[07:20] <sanityx> Ok what is the deal with KDE randomly not actually opening the program you want, just bouncing the icon for a few seconds
[07:20] <margis> slyfox i need  both of  them  ....
[07:20] <slyfox> margis: need? Why?
[07:20] <slyfox> sanityx: good question, I think maybe becsue they are still being used by other processes?
[07:21] <margis> slyfox: i need to paly games
[07:21] <sanityx> slyfox, I don't think so.
[07:21] <margis> i love kubuntu but....
[07:21] <sanityx> Like gaim will just randomly not open
[07:21] <sanityx> or openoffice
[07:21] <sanityx> or all kinds of stuff
[07:22] <slyfox> margis: this sucks :-) I stopped playing games after I played Deus Ex 2, after that game I lost interest in all other games.
[07:22] <slyfox> sanityx: good question, I want to know too
[07:22] <slyfox> Jucato: can you help with this one please?
[07:22] <margis> slyfox  find me an emulator to play all windows  games and then i will  use only kubuntu
[07:22] <Jucato> slyfox: what?
[07:22] <slyfox> margis: cadega?
[07:23] <sanityx> margis, Cedega.
[07:23] <margis> slyfox  u like it  or not   i like to play games
[07:23] <niles> nixternal: hey thanx pal it works and i have direct rendering
[07:23] <slyfox> Jucato: "what is the deal with KDE randomly not actually opening the program you want, just bouncing the icon for a few seconds"
[07:23] <margis> cedega?
[07:23] <sanityx> Cedega works just fine for tons of games
[07:23] <willy> alguien me ayuda con la maquina virtual de java
[07:23] <margis> better than wine?
[07:23] <willy> porfavor
[07:23] <niles> with direct rendering, i should be able to play games and use glx right?
[07:23] <darksider415> margis: Well, I stick to MUDs, so I'd probably get by on Linus's original build of Linux, back in '91...
[07:23] <userund> !es
[07:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:23] <sanityx> margis, Its a version of wine, specifically designed to play games.
[07:23] <carutsu_> willy si hablas espanol aqui te van a gritar
[07:23] <carutsu_> ves
[07:23] <sanityx> margis, It costs money.
[07:23] <margis> no thanks
[07:23] <sanityx> lol its only like $15
[07:23] <niles> or in otherwords, direct rendering is like utilizing my 3D acceleration
[07:23] <niles> right
[07:23] <sanityx> a lot cheaper than a copy of windows.
[07:23] <nixternal> niles: rock on!
[07:23] <cpk1> wine works just fine for tons of games
[07:24] <cpk1> cedega is subscription based
[07:24] <Master_Kale> has anyone had success at using rdesktop with VMWare player?
[07:24] <sanityx> cpk1, Yeah but you often have to tweak it or change settings
[07:24] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[07:24] <sanityx> cpk1, Cedega works a lot better
[07:24] <margis> so much programming  on linux  and   none nice emulator  yet??????
[07:24] <Master_Kale> !rdesktop
[07:24] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[07:24] <me2win> WoW FTW
[07:24] <sanityx> margis, Cedega is a GREAT emulator.
[07:24] <yuriy> !fixres
[07:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:24] <cpk1> my room mate has cedega and I have wine, we both play the same games
[07:24] <Jucato> slyfox: not sure. only happens when to me randomly when I start firefox
[07:24] <margis> yes   but i must  pay   right?
[07:24] <cpk1> and cedega and wine arent emulators =)
[07:24] <sanityx> cpk1, Yeah yeah :-P
[07:25] <sanityx> margis, You could pirate it I guess
[07:25] <sanityx> but its so cheap
[07:25] <darksider415> margis: I'd rather use Cedega, which does work for games, rather well, instead of paying for what seems to be a way overpriced, bloated OS that drags the hardware down. Just my $0.02...
[07:25] <cpk1> margis: what games do you want to play?
[07:25] <sanityx> Much cheaper than a copy of windows XP
[07:25] <margis> can it  play lineage?
[07:25] <sanityx> margis, I don't know.
[07:25] <slyfox> Jucato: waht was it that you use firefox again for ?
[07:25] <userund> check transgaming db
[07:25] <cpk1> crossover might actually be better than cedega soon
[07:25] <margis> can u give me a link with  supported games of cedega?
[07:25] <userund> margis: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[07:26] <Jucato> slyfox: for the 1% of sites that I can't use Konqueror for... which is getting less and less
[07:26] <Jucato> slyfox: and for testing pages
[07:26] <sanityx> margis, It can play lineage and lineage 2
[07:26] <sanityx> http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[07:26] <margis>  ooo niceeeeee
[07:27] <carutsu_> i love Firefox, but knoqueror is konquering my, xD
[07:27] <carutsu_> i mean its a really good KDE experience
[07:27] <sanityx> Konquerer blows as a web browser.
[07:27] <margis> ok  nice emulator
[07:27] <margis> how i can find  it?
[07:28] <margis> torrent?
[07:28] <sanityx> margis, That's up to you. I'm not going to help you pirate it.
[07:28] <margis> ok
[07:28] <slyfox> Jucato: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/135-Lets-make-some-baskets...html
[07:28] <userund> konqueror is unbearably slow for me when loading pages.  Disabling ipv6 doesn't help.  unfortunate but I prefer Firefox anyway.
[07:28] <carutsu_> and as a file manager i have no complains, but might take some ideas from crusader(?)
[07:28] <darksider415> sanityx: What is wrong with Konqueror as a browser?
[07:28] <sanityx> darksider415, Its ajax support sucks?
[07:28] <sanityx> darksider415, go to gmail.com
[07:28] <sanityx> see what happens when you log in
[07:28] <carutsu_> !crusader
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crusader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <sanityx> its ugly?
[07:29] <darksider415> !krusader
[07:29] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[07:29] <userund> sanityx: google blocks konqueror as far as I know.  KHTML is one of the best rendering engines out there
[07:29] <carutsu_> xD
[07:29] <sanityx> userund, could be.
[07:29] <carutsu_> blocks?!
[07:29] <carutsu_> well in the web apps you mean?
[07:29] <userund> gmail that is.
[07:29] <sanityx> i also just find it renders pages in an ugly way
[07:29] <Jucato> userund: for Gmail ang Google Calendar, use Firefox 1.5.0.4 or Safari browser identificaton
[07:30] <sanityx> fonts look weird compared to firefox
[07:30] <carutsu_> that's what i though... well bad for them konqueror is the most standar compilant browser
[07:30] <userund> Jucato: I'm not complaining about it
[07:30] <Jucato> userund: just in case :)
[07:30] <darksider415> sanityx: Personally, I use Konqueror daily. And I use KMail to handle my Gmail...
[07:30] <userund> I do like that you can send different UAs to different sites though, great feature (think I saw that in options...)
[07:31] <sanityx> Yuck
[07:31] <sanityx> I use thunderbird
[07:31] <cpk1> I do the same as darksider415 =)
[07:31] <cpk1> but kontact has rss feeds in it too!
[07:31] <sanityx> And I'm not going to bother with gmail without the web interface
[07:31] <Jucato> isn't freedom great? :D
[07:31] <sanityx> Jucato, Definitely.
[07:31] <sanityx> The web interface is the only thing I like about gmail
[07:32] <margis> ok i found  cedega
[07:32] <cpk1> I'm too lazy to have to open a browser to check my mail =P
[07:32] <margis> i need to reinstall all my games  that  i have installed in my xp partition or  just find the exe file?
[07:32] <Jucato> I let my mail and news come to me...
[07:33] <sanityx> margis, Reinstall.
[07:33] <arunkale> I find web e-mail useful, because I can easily check my e-mails when I am on another computer
[07:33] <sanityx> margis, You might be able to copy them over.
[07:33] <cpk1> margis: you dont need to reinstall, just copy over the whole game directory
[07:33] <Jucato> presuming the games will run on Wine
[07:33] <sanityx> cpk1, that depends on the game.
[07:33] <margis> nice
[07:33] <sanityx> cpk1, if a game uses the registry too much
[07:33] <Jucato> arunkale: that's the only other use I have for the web interface :)
[07:33] <arunkale> haha
[07:33] <Jucato> which is also why I don't delete mails there :)
[07:33] <margis> i just  saw that it can paly pes6
[07:34] <cpk1> afaik it always works and is the best way to install with wine
[07:34] <margis> i think that  i will  not  install vista
[07:34] <niles> is apt-cache search <name>  // not a valid command ?
[07:34] <userund> yes
[07:34] <niles> E: Invalid operation seach
[07:34] <thoreauputic> niles: spelling
[07:34] <userund> "seach" not "search"
[07:34] <Jucato> niles: don't include the <  and >
[07:34] <Jucato> ah "search"
[07:34] <Jucato> not "seach"
[07:34] <thoreauputic> right :)
[07:34] <niles> i said search
 E: Invalid operation seach
[07:35] <niles> oh i guess not
[07:35] <userund> ha
[07:35] <niles> my bad
[07:35] <thoreauputic> niles: linux has a problem parsing typos ;-)
[07:36] <Jucato> niles, thoreauputic: but is very good at tab completion :) apt-ca[Tab]  se[Tab]  :)
[07:36] <niles> it's cool
[07:36] <userund> can you tab complete operators?
[07:36] <niles> does Kubuntu come with win32 codecs and libdvdcss ?
[07:36] <cpk1> no
[07:36] <userund> niles: no
[07:36] <Jucato> niles: no :)
[07:36] <Jucato> anyone up for a 4th confirmation on that? :D
[07:36] <niles> i cant find them in apt
[07:37] <userund> niles: sources.list?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> !codecs| niles
[07:37] <ubotu> niles: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:37] <cpk1> hehe
[07:37] <niles> thanx guys
[07:37] <darksider415> !source-o-matic
[07:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:37] <danzi> !sound
[07:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:37] <Jucato> niles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:39] <Mena> !PcLinuxOS
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pclinuxos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Mena> !Mandriva
[07:40] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:40] <Mena> What is good a bout mandriva
[07:40] <sanityx> Mena, its supposed to be really easy to use.
[07:40] <userund> mmm, it's owned by a french company.
[07:40] <Mena> sanity, hmmm okay :)
[07:40] <progek> hello room, ive used ubuntu for a long time and finally decided to try kubuntu. Im trying to install my nvidia drivers and would like to know if Im on the right track. Would it be ok to apt-get nvidia-glx then run nvidia-xconfig?
[07:41] <cpk1> slackware uses a packaging system? O.o
[07:41] <Mena> userund, ok
[07:41] <Jphenow> !past
[07:41] <Jphenow> !paste
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> !away
[07:41] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:41] <Mena> !patsebin
[07:41] <userund> cpk1: there are lots of unofficial package management systems for slack, but nothing official, and there won't be
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patsebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Mena> !pastebin
[07:41] <cpk1> oic
[07:42] <userund> like slapt-get and swaret
[07:42] <Mena> !pastebin |jphenow
[07:42] <ubotu> jphenow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:42] <fyrmedic> how do I know for sure if both of my processors are being used?
[07:42] <draik> What's a good scanner to get for Kubuntu 6.10?
[07:43] <Mena> draik, for viruses
[07:43] <thoreauputic> fyrmedic:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:43] <thoreauputic> fyrmedic: and run top
[07:43] <draik> Mena: Sorry, for images
[07:43] <fyrmedic> thanks
[07:43] <stdin> fyrmedic: or kinfocenter
[07:43] <Mena> draik, u had alreadu in your graphic tools in kmenu
[07:44] <Mena> already*
[07:44] <darksider415> draik: I've got two HP scanners that work pretty well. In my case, my personal favorite is the HP Scanjet 3900, but the drivers are still pretty buggy.
[07:44] <danzi> I'm restarting my sound and it's running in a loop
[07:44] <draik> Mena: Huh?
[07:44] <danzi> Is it safe to stop it starting?
[07:44] <Mena> heheh never mind
[07:44] <draik> darksider415: I have a Canon CanoScan D646U
[07:45] <Jphenow> okay guys so i'm trying to get nvidia-glx, adept stops me from this along with apt-get
[07:45] <stdin> !away Compleja
[07:45] <cpk1> adept and apt-get use the same backend
[07:45] <Jphenow> here's my output from the apt-get anyone got any ideas for a solution?
[07:45] <stdin> !away | Compleja
[07:45] <draik> darksider415: Sadly enough, not supported, much less recognized
[07:45] <ubotu> away: A terminal locking program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:45] <ubotu> Compleja: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:45] <Compleja> stdin,
[07:45] <Jphenow> i used apt-get in order to recieve output
[07:45] <Compleja> ok
[07:45] <Jphenow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8501/
[07:45] <kingv> HELP!
[07:45] <kingv> i got a good one!
[07:46] <stdin> draik: scanner hardware support pages is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:46] <fyrmedic> So it list it as a AMD Turion 64 X2 but only lists one processor. Is that right?
[07:46] <kingv> i hae researched and nothing !
[07:46] <kingv> i hae researched and nothing !
[07:46] <kingv> lol :)
[07:46] <cpk1> Jphenow: looks like you might have mesa drivers?
[07:46] <Jphenow> so remove those??
[07:46] <charlie5> hi folks ... i cannot use adept because it says another process is using the packaging system ... i cannot find what that process is to kill it  ... (its not adept or apt anything )
[07:47] <draik> stdin: Right. I've been there. NOthing
[07:47] <stdin> !aptfix | charlie5
[07:47] <ubotu> charlie5: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:47] <kingv> i'm trying to isntall kubuntu.. but when it boots it i hit start and install and it goes through loading.. but then the monitor goes coocoo and shows me messed up colors
[07:47] <charlie5> stdin: thank you :)
[07:47] <Jphenow> cpk1 so remove the mesa drivers then do nvidia-glx??
[07:47] <stdin> draik: HP tends to be the best make to go with anyway
[07:47] <kingv> any suggestions.. i did all the reasearch.. but no luck
[07:48] <draik> stdin: I have never had an issue with HP
[07:48] <draik> stdin: my laptop is HP
[07:48] <danzi> should I have an alsa in /etc/modutils?
[07:48] <draik> my printer is HP
[07:48] <cpk1> Jphenow: have you tried installing video drivers before?
[07:48] <Jphenow> several different occasions, usually resulting in 6 hours without an Xserver and alternation between live cd and terminal
[07:49] <draik> stdin: I was just trying to get a feel for any recommendations
[07:49] <cpk1> Jphenow: did you use apt to install them?
[07:49] <darksider415> draik: It depends on what it is. Desktops, I'll either go self-built, HP or Apple. Notebooks are either Toshiba, Lenovo, Sony or Apple, and either way, I'll run Linux on 'em.
[07:49] <Jphenow> i believe i removed all the ati stuff i had from before
[07:50] <draik> darksider415: HP it is
[07:50] <draik> now...
[07:50] <charlie5> cheers, it worked fine
[07:50] <cpk1> ... why did you have ati stuff; or rather why are you trying to get nvidia stuff?
[07:50] <draik> what model?
[07:50] <darksider415> draik: IMHO, HP notebooks tend to be absolutely horrid, with few exceptions. Of course, I'm weird... Now, as far as printers go, they're great, and I love my Photosmart 7960.
[07:50] <stdin> charlie5: just type "!botsnack" to thank ubotu :)
[07:50] <kingv> i'm tried to install kubuntu, xbuntu, ubuntu..every time i start the install in normal or safe graphics my monitor shows me bunch of messed up color and i can't see anything..
[07:50] <darksider415> kingv: What graphics chipset?
[07:51] <kingv> nvidia 6800
[07:51] <cpk1> Jphenow: are you sure you know what video card you have?
[07:51] <Jphenow> okay so couple weeks ago i had a crap geforce 4 but it's what was built in, switched to ATI for a bit but found out the hard way drivers available for those are horrible, NOW i bought new fx 5200
[07:51] <charlie5> lol ... ok
[07:51] <charlie5> !botsnack
[07:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:51] <charlie5> :D
[07:51] <stdin> :)
[07:51] <Compleja> :o
[07:51] <Jphenow> yes i know what i have
[07:51] <draik> darksider415: I have the HP Pavilion N5150. It used to be packaged with winme. Yeah, I know. Now it's Kubuntu. The printer is HP DeskJet 5850.
[07:52] <draik> The desktop that I have is built by myself
[07:52] <draik> It's only 2 years old
[07:52] <draik> actually, 2 years and 4 months
[07:53] <me2win> @chuck
[07:54] <niles> !sound
[07:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:55] <Jphenow> cdk1: any ideas as to what i did or what i can do?
[07:56] <cpk1> Jphenow: if you only tried installing drivers with apt then just purge all the packages
[07:57] <Jphenow> if u haven't already caught on im a n00b, wanna explain a bit more detailed?
[07:57] <Jphenow> plz n thanks?
[07:57] <cpk1> Jphenow: did you only use apt when you installed ati drivers?
[07:58] <darksider415> draik: I had an old Pavilion XE783 running Xubuntu that I gave to a friend, and my other desktop is a Pavilion a520 running Kubuntu Edgy. However, as far as notebooks go, I've got an Apple PowerBook G3 and a Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002, the 'Book running Edgy and the Satellite running Feisty. The printers are a HP Deskjet 930C and a Photosmart 7950, both shared.
[07:58] <danzi> !kwallet
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <danzi> How do I shut off kwallet
[07:58] <niles> i selected my sound card in the mixer. but i still dont have sound
[07:58] <Jphenow> aha i used so many different methods it isn't even funny just because i couldn't get it workin, the ATI stuff is gone but i know i have bunch of mesa stuff here if that means anything
[07:58] <me2win> danzi: uninstall, kwallet is the devil, sometimes i think that even if i disable it its still gonna bother me
[07:59] <danzi> me2win: slightly less rastic way
[07:59] <danzi> Drastic
[08:00] <xerroz> I would like to install a minimal ubuntu base with full debugging symbols. Can anyone point me to a resource that may help? Or if anyone knows...
[08:00] <cpk1> err isnt mesa the ati drivers?
[08:00] <xerroz> mesa is software rendering
[08:01] <xerroz> which is not what we want.
[08:01] <Jphenow> aha so that should be removed?
[08:01] <xerroz> I myself am currently unable to get DRI to work with my Radeon Mobility 9000 =(
[08:01] <sanityx> Wow ktorrent is awesome. I mean its ugly as hell, but it connects to seeds so fast
[08:01] <Jphenow> cpk1 you positive i can remove mesa stuff?
[08:01] <kingv> has anybody gotten counterstrike: source working without any problems ?
[08:02] <cpk1> mesa is for ati cards
[08:02] <cpk1> Jphenow: but, it looks like it shouldnt interfere
[08:03] <cpk1> Jphenow: oh wait its just for opengl
[08:03] <Jphenow> so that won't solve my problem?
[08:03] <userund> kingv: it works fine for me except I have no sound.  I think that's because I have two sound cards and wine tries to use the one I'm not using.  haven't successfully corrected that yet.  And my FPS are about half what they should be.  But it installs and runs well
[08:03] <Jphenow> i know what opengl is but still not gettin ya
[08:04] <kingv> userund: what vc do you have ?
[08:04] <userund> kingv: 6600gt
[08:04] <kingv> userund: but why only half fps?
[08:04] <userund> kingv: I don't know.  On windows I would get 60-70, now I get about 25-35
[08:05] <kingv> userund: i got a 6800 do you think that it will affect me ?
[08:05] <kingv> probably :)
[08:05] <userund> kingv: unknown.  I haven't messed with it that much so I haven't looked for ways to get better fps
[08:06] <cpk1> Jphenow: do this in konsole 'sudo aptitude purge xorg-driver-fglrx'
[08:06] <kingv> userund: yeah i guess.. if it runs well...than no need to mess around with it.. is there anywhere a "how to" that i could follow >
[08:06] <userund> kingv: yeah, a good one on the forums.  lemme get it
[08:06] <niles> is my sound supposed to be working on a fresh installation of kubuntu ?
[08:06] <xerroz> should
[08:06] <userund> kingv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528&highlight=counter+strike+edgy
[08:06] <niles> damn
[08:07] <kingv> userund: thanks man!
[08:07] <userund> kingv: I used that and it was running in 20 minutes (plus download time)
[08:07] <xerroz> niles: have you assured your speakers are on and functional? :)
[08:07] <niles> xerroz: yes
[08:07] <danzi> Has anyone worked with an ATI SB450?
[08:07] <xerroz> niles: and your computer is on correct?
[08:07] <danzi> !forums
[08:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:07] <kingv> userund: lol thats awesome.. but now i'm having issues with installing kubuntu.. so that might take a while :)
[08:07] <niles> yes my computer is on
[08:08] <niles> i only have one computer xerroz
[08:08] <xerroz> niles, in a terminal, type alsamixer
[08:08] <K`zan> I've got a problem, had just windows on my old laptop and managed to get kubuntu installed and now grub says my windoz partition is outside of BIOS limits - it booted wincrap fine before grub got installed - any help MUCH appreciated!
[08:08] <cpk1> anyone ever tried playing a .aiff?
[08:08] <xerroz> K`zan: please paste your grub.conf in the pastebin
[08:08] <niles> xerroz: Card: ESS Allegro PCI    is this correct for a sound blaster ?
[08:09] <niles> is Allegro the chipset ?
[08:09] <K`zan> xerroz: wilco, thanks
[08:09] <kingv> userund: everytime i start the install cd, and hit install (normal or safe graphics) it loads and then my monitor goes crazy and shows me bunch of diff. color lines
[08:09] <xerroz> niles: i cannot confirm, but i believe it should say something more to the affect of 'creative labs' or 'sound blaster'
[08:09] <userund> kingv: that guide doesn't use the install cd, nor did I.  use the guide.
[08:10] <userund> kingv: oh, you meant ubuntu CD.
[08:10] <kingv> userund: yes :)
[08:10] <kingv> userund: not sure what the deal is
[08:10] <cpk1> kingv: what video card?
[08:10] <kingv> userund: i was told to get alternate cd
[08:10] <niles> xerroz: how can i change this to creative labs?  the icon on the lower right hand of the desktop has creative labs selected
[08:10] <userund> kingv: try passing an argument to the boot line... it's in the help menu when you load up.  I *think* it's vga=771 but get to the Help menu to verify
[08:10] <xerroz> niles: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[08:10] <userund> kingv: yes alternate is a good idea.
[08:10] <kingv> userund: 6800
[08:11] <niles> hmmm
[08:11] <niles> xerroz: perhalps it may be my integrated card
[08:11] <niles> which i cant turn off in the bios
[08:11] <K`zan> xerroz: coming up on the laptop in just a few, probably as Anastasia...
[08:11] <cpk1> kingv: I have a 6600 and had the same problem, the thing is that safe graphics doesnt change it to vga like its supposed to, userund is right, if you pass the right arg you should be fine
[08:12] <niles> xerroz: is i pull out my PCI sound blaster will kubuntu autoconfigure the sound for the integrated card ?
[08:12] <xerroz> K`zan: k
[08:12] <kingv> cpk1: so should i just use vga=771?
[08:12] <xerroz> niles, alsa should recognize it
[08:12] <K`zan> xerroz: old and slow, but it is getting to kde now :-)
[08:12] <cpk1> kingv: I cant remember; can you get to tty1?
[08:13] <niles> xerroz: ok thanx i'll try to work wiht the link you gave me.
[08:13] <kingv> cpk1: i'm in the menu right now ..i just started the boot cd
[08:13] <xerroz> niles: in a terminal type, alsamixer -c 0,
[08:13] <userund> kingv: yes, vga=771 is what I'd try putting in the boot line before you use the alternate
[08:13] <xerroz> what chipset does it report?
[08:13] <xerroz> K`zan: :)
[08:14] <kingv> userund: F6 and then add  vga=771 at the end?
[08:14] <sanityx> Any interesting things I can do with 3d acceleration other than use cedega and Xgl
[08:14] <niles> xerroz: Chip: ESS Technology ESS1988
[08:14] <userund> kingv: probably, whatever will let you enter boot options.  It's been a while since I saw the install menu
[08:14] <niles> must be the integrated one.
[08:14] <Jphenow> how do u cut in a command line
[08:14] <xerroz> niles: escape out, type alsamixer -c 1
[08:14] <niles> No mixer elems found
[08:14] <carutsu_> how can i check hotmail from Kmail? i heard tare is a phyton script that downloads the mail, but i need to keep it on the server till i erase it from inbox
[08:15] <xerroz> niles: alsa is only finding the one card
[08:15] <kingv> userund: lol ok... since i'm only 50% done with alternate cd downloading.. could i try this with the regular dvd ?
[08:15] <userund> kingv: yes
[08:15] <xerroz> niles, in alsamixer -c 0, on master and pcm, are the 00 at the bottom highlighted with a green background?
[08:15] <Jphenow> how do you use cut in a terminal
[08:15] <aric> what driver should i use, if i have ATI x300 ?
[08:16] <xerroz> aric: fglrx
[08:16] <xerroz> Jphenow: you cannot cut, you can copy and paste however
[08:16] <xerroz> Jphenow: right click, hit 'c' to copy; shift + insert to paste
[08:16] <xerroz> (in konsole that is)
[08:17] <Jphenow> cool thanks
[08:17] <cpk1> if you have a middle mouse button you can just highlight and then press the middle mouse button to paste
[08:17] <thoreauputic> xerroz: that's the hard way - just highlight, middle click to paste
[08:17] <xerroz> that works...if you have the middle mouse button
[08:17] <xerroz> some of us laptop users however, :)
[08:18] <thoreauputic> xerroz: you can use both buttons together to simulate it
[08:18] <userund> three-button emulate for laptops :)
[08:18] <niles> xerroz: master and pcm are green to red
[08:18] <thoreauputic> xerroz: most laptops have middle click keys - my Ibook does for instance
[08:18] <xerroz> how nasty; why would i touch my laptop so inappropriately?
[08:18] <niles> master is 94<>90  pcm is 81<>81
[08:19] <xerroz> niles, in terminal type lsmod | grep em
[08:19] <xerroz> thoreauputic: you are correct, most are.
[08:20] <niles> xerroz:  http://rafb.net/p/ZOWtzx26.html
[08:20] <niles> looks like i Do have the drivers. hmm
[08:20] <kingv> userund: i started the normal kubuntu dvd (not the alternate) and i went with the normal install ( not the safe graphics) and also went with the argument vga=771 and my colors on monitor are still messed up
[08:20] <xerroz> niles: indeed you do
[08:20] <danzi> Anyone have an ATI SP450 sound card?
[08:20] <margis>  i just  installed cedega (last version) and  i cant  paly linegae
[08:21] <margis> in the site it says that   it  is  possible
[08:21] <userund> kingv: hmm.  then I'd go with the alternate cd.  The edgy livecd is finicky from my experience, so it doesn't surprise me
[08:21] <margis> anyone who can paly lineage2  with cedega?
[08:21] <niles> hmm
[08:21] <xerroz> niles, go to kde - > system settings -> sound server
[08:21] <kingv> userund: ok the download is almost done.. i will let you know how that turns out.. thaks for the help so far
[08:22] <niles> xerroz: do you mean sound system ?
[08:22] <userund> kingv: no prob, but I won't be around but a few more minutes.  2:30am here :)
[08:22] <xerroz> also, niles, where are you testing to attempt sound?
[08:22] <xerroz> niles: yes
[08:22] <niles> Enable the sound system is checked xerroz
[08:22] <xerroz> click 'test sound'
[08:22] <kingv> userund: ah its ok then.. hopefully it works.. i need to sleep too :)
[08:22] <sanityx> !find gmail
[08:22] <ubotu> Found: checkgmail, enigmail-locale-ca, enigmail-locale-cs, enigmail-locale-de, enigmail-locale-el (and 23 others)
[08:22] <shulman> what's a good tutorial to create a software RAID ?
[08:23] <margis> can anyone help me?
[08:23] <niles> xerroz:  test failed.  i was testing with mp3's earlier
[08:23] <xerroz> niles: what application?
[08:23] <niles> kaffeiene but there was no luck with that
[08:24] <carutsu_> katapult is not launching itself.... even if i click on it on the menu (>utilities>ktapult)
[08:24] <cpk1> kingv: can you get to tty1?
[08:24] <niles> strange,  my sound card worked with Debian.
[08:24] <xerroz> niles: its likely just a configuration problem
[08:25] <xerroz> niles do you have mplayer installed?
[08:26] <niles> xerroz: not at the moment but i can install it.
[08:26] <xerroz> niles, just checking, but /dev/dsp does exist correct?
[08:26] <niles> xerroz: according to google ESS Allegro,  is the sound card for the integrated card in the compaq.
[08:26] <niles> so the question is,  how to get alsa to point to the sound blaster
[08:27] <xerroz> alsa isn't picking it up for some reason
[08:27] <xerroz> this was confirmed with alsamixer -c #
[08:27] <danzi> help!!!
[08:27] <niles> xerroz: this sucks.  becuase my 5 year old compaq will not allow me to disable the card in teh bios.
[08:27] <niles> but rather assign an IRQ #
[08:28] <niles> numbers being 3,5 11
[08:28] <xerroz> niles: i believe you may need to mess around the with the driver
[08:28] <xerroz> niles: please join #alsa, and seek assistance there
[08:28] <niles> xerroz: thanx for you time.
[08:28] <xerroz> sorry i couldnt assist you further
[08:28] <xerroz> danzi: with?
[08:29] <danzi> Sound card isn't working
[08:29] <chris__> can someone tell me how to open the sources.list in kubuntu where i can edit it?
[08:29] <danzi> chris__: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <adydas> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <danzi> I win :)
[08:29] <danzi> xerroz: It's a ATI SB450
[08:29] <adydas> im busy on another computer..
[08:29] <xerroz> ATI makes a sound card?
[08:29] <xerroz> :-\
[08:30] <adydas> here i win
[08:30] <danzi> xerroz: I just tell it like lshw sees it
[08:30] <adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[08:30] <danzi> adydas: Fine :)
[08:30] <kingv> cpk1: sorry.. yes i can
[08:30] <adydas> :p
[08:30] <xerroz> danzi
[08:30] <xerroz> danzi: good news, your card is supported
[08:30] <danzi> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI#matrix
[08:30] <danzi> Bad news I don't get sound :)
[08:30] <xerroz> danzi: lsmod | grep hda
[08:30] <chris__> thanks danzi and adyas
[08:31] <danzi> xerroz: Want the output?
[08:31] <xerroz> does it say hda-intel?
[08:31] <margis_> anyone who plays lineage  with cedega?
[08:31] <danzi> Yes
[08:31] <danzi> three :)
[08:31] <Anastasia> How do I get kate as root, sudo kate doesn't work :-(?
[08:31] <danzi> three times
[08:31] <xerroz> good, now type alsamixer
[08:32] <danzi> xerroz: done
[08:32] <Compleja> bye all
[08:32] <adydas> Anastasia:
[08:32] <adydas> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <adydas> err
[08:32] <xerroz> danzi: do you see white 00's with green backgrounds under MASTER and PCM?
[08:32] <adydas> just kdesu kate whateveryouwanttoedit
[08:32] <danzi> Yes
[08:32] <Anastasia> adydas: thanks!
[08:33] <xerroz> danzi: goto kde - > system settings -> sound system -> 'test sound'
[08:33] <adydas> i hate kate, so used to jed or nano now a days.. i find it easyer jsut to use that
[08:34] <danzi> xerroz: Nothing I can hear
[08:34] <xerroz> danzi: speakers are on, and functional?
[08:34] <danzi> Built into the laptop so I guess they are on
[08:35] <xerroz> 'guess' is not an acceptable answer :)
[08:35] <xerroz> danzi: what is the make of your laptop?
[08:35] <danzi> Gateway Mx6446
[08:35] <xerroz> insure the speakers are not muted
[08:35] <xerroz> ensure*
[08:35] <danzi> They are not
[08:36] <margis_> anyone who uses  cedega?
[08:36] <danzi> I pressed the Mute button till it flashed a big Mute OFF sign
[08:36] <niles> xerroz: alsamixer -c 2  is where my sound card is at
[08:37] <xerroz> i see ^_^
[08:37] <xerroz> danzi: hmm
[08:37] <danzi> Using kernel 2.6.20-9
[08:38] <xerroz> danzi: 'test sound' did not report 'test failed'?
[08:38] <danzi> no
[08:38] <xerroz> niles: so set the default to be index=2
[08:39] <danzi> Everything seems to be hunky dory
[08:39] <danzi> But no sound
[08:40] <Anastasia> xerroz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8505/  -  Thanks!
[08:41] <xerroz> danzi: please see #alsa for more assistance, sorry i cannot help you any further
[08:41] <danzi> ok tried the Fn-Mute key as well as Mute on the player
[08:42] <Anastasia> xerroz: this is K`zan on the laptop where the problem is...
[08:43] <danzi> !paste
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:43] <xerroz> Anastasia: what is the exact error again
[08:44] <Anastasia> xerroz: I'd have to reboot and try to start wincrap again, but essentially that the windoz partition is beyond the BIOS limit, if you need it, I can go get it?
[08:45] <xerroz> no thats fine
[08:45] <Anastasia> xerroz: I'll go get it, bbiaf
[08:45] <Anastasia> xerroz: rr, standing by, thanks MUCH!
[08:46] <xerroz> Anastasia: as root, type 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and pastebin the output
[08:46] <Anastasia> xerroz: wilco, brb
[08:47] <ubuntu> i need help :/.....im confused by these dpkg/apt-get msgs
[08:48] <ubuntu> can anyone help
[08:48] <ubuntu> im doing an fresh install
[08:48] <xerroz> please pastebin the messages
[08:48] <Anastasia> xerroz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8507/
[08:48] <xerroz> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <xerroz> Anastasia: @_@
[08:49] <Anastasia> xerroz: ??
[08:49] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8509/
[08:49] <xerroz> it looks correct
[08:49] <Anastasia> xerroz: it should be, if I run (wincrap) fdisk /mbr I can get at it...
[08:50] <Anastasia> xerroz: Problem is that my wireless card works under wincrap, but no luck so far with ubuntu and unfortunately there are things I need the wireless card for :-/.
[08:51] <xerroz> Anastasia: what is your wireless card?
[08:51] <Anastasia> xerroz: Netgear WG511v1
[08:52] <Anastasia> xerroz: been fighting with that trying to get wpa-psk to work and so far just no luck.  Wanted to boot back into wincrap and make sure it didn't go west on me.
[08:52] <xerroz> Anastasia: http://blog.gilluminate.com/2005/7/25/getting-netgear-wg511-802-11b-g-wireless-card-to-work-in-linux
[08:52] <xerroz> Anastasia: oh, the card works, but wpa does not? is that correct
[08:52] <Anastasia> xerroz: For 2 days now.
[08:53] <Anastasia> xerroz: I'm not sure if the card works now, that is why I need to boot wincrap :-(.
[08:53] <Anastasia> xerroz: It should work under wep, but it doesn't do that either.
[08:53] <xerroz> Anastasia: is your card detected in linux? can you bring the interface up?
[08:54] <Anastasia> xerroz: I guess I just fdisk /mbr anb re-install grub after I find out if it works :-(.
[08:55] <Anastasia> xerroz: Yes and yes :-).  "everything seems to be fine (god knows if it really is between wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper).
[08:55] <ubuntu> can anyone help
[08:55] <xerroz> Anastasia: google wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper support
[08:55] <xerroz> i dont know for sure if it supports it [yet] 
[08:55] <Anastasia> xerroz: been doing that for two days now :-/.
[08:56] <Anastasia> xerroz: that is why I am starting to wonder about the card itself and the only thing I have to test with is wincrap on this box...
[08:57] <foo> I have beryl +xgl + kde. How can I change my background image? Reason I ask is because there is something wrong with the kde background chooser. It's not showing my jpeg images... very weird. Any ideas?
[08:59] <xerroz> Anastasia: have you followed http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[08:59] <Anastasia> xerroz: I guess I just run fdisk /mbr and build a boot floppy for when I want to run linux since grub can't cope beyond bios?
[08:59] <abattoir> hi foo! nice to see you here.
[08:59] <xerroz> Anastasia: try #grub to get that issue fixed
[08:59] <Anastasia> xerroz: I'm pretty sure I hit that one, done enough web sites that proport to make it work that I have reached terminal confusion (and eye strain :-).
[09:00] <Anastasia> xerroz: Will check it out.  Thanks very much for you help here - very much appreciated.
[09:00] <xerroz> also try #ndiswrapper
[09:01] <LL_Hakaisou> so, how do i turn on 3ddesktop?
[09:01] <Originooo> do i have to forward a port to use skype?
[09:01] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: first run "3ddesk --acquire", then after it takes snapshots, "3ddesk"
[09:01] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks jucato
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> woah... that was a nifty desktop switcher
[09:04] <SpAwN> !cue
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <LL_Hakaisou> so, do i gotta enter that command every time, or is there a keyboard shortcut?
[09:05] <SpAwN> can you mount a bin/cue?
[09:05] <stdin> SpAwN: 1st you need to convert it to ISO
[09:05] <SpAwN> kiso isnt converting them to iso
[09:05] <margis> anyone  who uses cedega?
[09:05] <kingv> cpk1: i just installed it and colors were messed up when it started so i went to tty2
[09:06] <xerroz> margis: try #wine or #cedega
[09:06] <margis> join #cedega
[09:06] <stdin> SpAwN: use bchunk to convert bin/cue to ISO
[09:06] <margis> like this?
[09:06] <snake_> hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do
[09:06] <margis> #cedega
[09:06] <snake_> any idea??
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> so, do i gotta enter that command every time, or is there a keyboard shortcut?
[09:06] <xerroz> margis: you can click it, or type /join #cedega
[09:06] <SpAwN> stdin, how?.... ive never used that command b4
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> for 3ddesk i mean
[09:07] <snake_> hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do
[09:08] <stdin> SpAwN: bchunk <image.bin> <image.cue> <basename> (basename is the name of the iso file, without .iso at the end)
[09:09] <SpAwN> stdin, ahh killer thanks d00d :-)
[09:09] <stdin> SpAwN: yw :)
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> !keybind
[09:09] <cpk1> kingv: yeah either install the nvidia drivers immeadiatly with apt or edit xorg to use vesa or whatever
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keybind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> !keybinding
[09:09] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> *palm face*
[09:10] <kingv> cpk1: apt-get ? what the cmd again ?
[09:10] <snake_> hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do??
[09:10] <cpk1> kingv: I use aptitude but you could also use apt-get =)
[09:11] <kingv> cpk1: ok :) so would apt-get nvidia do the job ?
[09:11] <ubuntu> :(
[09:11] <LL_Hakaisou> how do i set a keybinding?
[09:11] <ubuntu> this sucks i hope these errors dont break the system :/
[09:11] <cpk1> kingv: no, you need linux-restricted-modules-whatever linux-image you have installed
[09:11] <stdin> !shortcut | LL_Hakaisou
[09:11] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:12] <snake_> !k3d
[09:12] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks
[09:12] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB
[09:13] <snake_> how can i resolve this problem
[09:13] <kingv> cpk1: sorry i'm kind a new :s could you let the know the whole cmd
[09:13] <snake_> i try to install
[09:13] <snake_> and adept says could not commit changes
[09:13] <snake_> even when i try to remove says the same thing
[09:14] <cpk1> so i think sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` will work for the easiest way but it would be nice if someone else could confirm with me =)
[09:14] <stdin> cpk1: that should work, yeah :)
[09:15] <snake_> i have to install linux restricted modules ??
[09:15] <cpk1> kingv: btw those are ` not '
[09:16] <stdin> cpk1: I find it easier to use the $(command) format, less confusing
[09:16] <kingv> cpk1: do i replace uname with edgy ?
[09:16] <stdin> kingv: no, just copy and paste
[09:17] <kingv> thanks
[09:17] <cpk1> kingv: no you do exactly what i typed: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:17] <cpk1> make sure you use the tilde key for the `
[09:17] <fdoving> $(uname -r) might be easier
[09:17] <cpk1> i suppose you both have a point
[09:17] <kingv> wow it just froze
[09:18] <dufft> hello everyone. i have some trouble with display and idk what to do
[09:18] <kingv> not sure why it happend
[09:18] <dufft> i installed Ubuntu 7.04
[09:18] <dufft> and my monitor is now not able to be set at any resolution but 1024x748
[09:19] <dufft> 768*
[09:19] <cpk1> kingv: still not doing anything?
[09:19] <dufft> 0_o
[09:19] <kingv> cpk1: idk it just froze.. i have to restart it
[09:19] <stdin> !FixRes | dufft
[09:19] <ubotu> dufft: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:19] <cpk1> kingv: ctrl c doesnt work?
[09:19] <kingv> cpk1: nothing
[09:20] <cpk1> kingv: just go to tty3
[09:20] <kingv> cpk1: i will do that
[09:20] <cpk1> and then kill aptitude from there
[09:20] <kingv> cpk1: i also tried before to run apt-get update (b4 u told me that cmd) and it just froze
[09:20] <cpk1> I would have thought that ctrl c would kill it
[09:21] <cpk1> odd
[09:22] <kingv> cpk1: its doing something now
[09:22] <cpk1> well thats good
[09:22] <kingv> yeah:)
[09:23] <kingv> cpk1: there is 4 done's and it had a list of "packages that have been automatically kept back"  and its not doing anything
[09:23] <cpk1> kingv: after you did what?
[09:24] <kingv> yup
[09:24] <kingv> this is strange... new install just going crazy
[09:25] <cpk1> what command did you do?
[09:25] <kingv> just like you typed in
[09:25] <kingv> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:25] <cpk1> ok sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <cpk1> kingv: you need to enable restricted
[09:26] <kingv> i can't do antyhing.. its not frozen.. but i can't type
[09:26] <kingv> tty4?
[09:27] <cpk1> why cant you type?
[09:27] <cpk1> spam ctrl c a bunch then try
[09:27] <kingv> ok now its good
[09:27] <cpk1> i believe in a heavy hand and ctrl c when your box doesnt pay attention
[09:27] <kingv> ok i'm in sources.list
[09:27] <cpk1> ok are there any lines with restricted in them?
[09:28] <kingv> 4
[09:28] <kingv> no more
[09:28] <kingv> 6 i think
[09:29] <kingv> 4
[09:29] <kingv> :)
[09:30] <kingv> should i just get it to install nvidia somehow ?
[09:30] <cpk1> kingv: so in the lines with restricted do they start with a #?
[09:31] <kingv> 2 yes
[09:31] <cpk1> kingv: ok delete the # and then save and exit
[09:31] <cpk1> kingv: unless its a line explaining restricted =P
[09:32] <kingv> well #deb ..../edgy-backports main restricted unive$
[09:32] <kingv> # deb ... /edgy-backports main restricted u$
[09:33] <cpk1> kingv: thats not an explanation delete the # =)
[09:33] <stdin> the edgy-backports one isn't necessary
[09:33] <cpk1> but thats just backports which means you should have already been able to get the restricted ones
[09:33] <cpk1> and stdin beat me to it
[09:34] <stdin> :)
[09:34] <cpk1> err vga
[09:35] <stdin> shouldn't nv work with all the nvidia cards?
[09:35] <kingv> that's what i was wondering
[09:35] <cpk1> well whats xorg.conf say its using right now?
[09:36] <kingv> let me check
[09:37] <kingv> driver says nv
[09:37] <kingv> should i change it to nvidia?
[09:37] <Aimee> hey, anyone out there could get wine run on kubuntu 6.10?
[09:38] <kingv> amiee: yes use automatix to get it
[09:38] <cpk1> you dont have the nvidia driver =)
[09:38] <cpk1> change it to vga
[09:38] <kingv> ok
[09:38] <cpk1> and dont use automatix Aimee
[09:38] <Aimee> kingv, but I tried to install wine from distro package, it didn't work
[09:38] <stdin> Aimee: depends on the app you want to run, some work, some don't
[09:38] <cpk1> Aimee: the wine website has directions for adding the wine repo to your sources.list
[09:39] <Aimee> and when I compiled myself, the same thing happened
[09:39] <kingv> cpk1: should i restart now ?
[09:39] <cpk1> Aimee: there is no reason why wine wouldnt work if you added the repo to your sources.list
[09:39] <cpk1> kingv: no just restart X
[09:40] <Aimee> I do this five time
[09:40] <Aimee> and I'm sure it didn't work, because I could not install winrar
[09:40] <cpk1> kingv: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart should work fine
[09:40] <Aimee> thank, I'll try
[09:40] <cpk1> Aimee: you know you can get native unrar right?
[09:41] <Aimee> no, winrar just for a test
[09:41] <Aimee> I didn't need it
[09:41] <stdin> Aimee: if you want to test wine, run "wine notepad", if you see notepad open, then wine is working
[09:42] <kingv> cpk1: can't start x now
[09:42] <cpk1> or just 'regedit'
[09:43] <cpk1> kingv: why not?
[09:43] <stdin> check the X server log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:43] <kingv> cpk1: lol .. i wonder that too.. new install .. and still can't run propertly... "driver can't suport depth 24"
[09:44] <cpk1> i always get confused on whether you are supposed to use vga or vesa
[09:44] <cpk1> so i might have made a mistake =P
[09:44] <cpk1> just change the depth then heh
[09:45] <kingv> so change the driver from vga to vesa?
[09:45] <stdin> cpk1: vga will work on anything, but it's very restricted with depth and resolution, vesa is less restrictive and should work on any card/chip
[09:45] <cpk1> yeah try vesa
[09:45] <cpk1> stdin: thanks for the explanation =)
[09:46] <stdin> :)
[09:46] <cpk1> I think I get confused because isnt VESA the name of an association?
[09:46] <cpk1> like video electronics standards association or something
[09:47] <stdin> not sure, maybe
[09:47] <kingv> ok now that cmd doesn't work to restart.. it says invoke-rc.d uknown initscript
[09:47] <stdin> like mpeg is too
[09:47] <Aimee> thank you very much, kingv, It worked
[09:48] <kingv> :)
[09:48] <kingv> great.. now if only i could get this to install that would be HOT
[09:48] <cpk1> kingv: ok I think you can just go to tty7 and then do ctrl alt backspace to restart X
[09:48] <Aimee> I'm gonna install iTunes, kingv
[09:48] <stdin> kingv: or: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:49] <kingv> wow i just did startx
[09:49] <kingv> and its good!
[09:49] <cpk1> oh, i would have thought it would be running already
[09:49] <cpk1> ok well at least now you can get into X but you will probably want to install the nvidia drivers =)
[09:49] <jarn> Anyone know a free usenet server?
[09:49] <kingv> so basically all it needs to be done is driver changed from nv to vesa
[09:50] <chuen> Hi. Can someone remind me of the command to unlock adept?
[09:51] <stdin> !aptfix | chuen
[09:51] <ubotu> chuen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:52] <chuen> stdin: Hi! And thanks, will try that.
[09:52] <kingv> cpk1: when i install nvidia drivers.. will i need to change the driver to nvidia .. or will the install do it automatically
[09:53] <cpk1> kingv: it will do it automatically. read !nvidia
[09:53] <kingv> !nvidia
[09:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <kingv> k thanks
[09:54] <kingv> ok guys that's a lot for your help .. i really appriciate it! god bless ! peace!
[09:56] <chuen> stdin: That's interesting, I was promted to complete an install which Adept couldn't do because I needed to eneter someting (via command line)
[09:57] <stdin> chuen: yeah, Adept can't take any use input right now, and some packages need that. It will be fixed in the nest release tho
[09:57] <stdin> s/use/user/
[09:58] <sanityx> Anybody know a good tool for mounting isos without burning them?
[09:59] <cpk1> yeah, mount
[09:59] <sanityx> oh i didnt know that :-D
[09:59] <stdin> sanityx: mount (with sudo), kiso or fuse
[09:59] <stdin> !iso
[09:59] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[09:59] <cpk1> mount -o loop nameofiso /some/folder
[09:59] <sanityx> nice thanks
[09:59] <stdin> cpk1: ubotu beat you :P
[09:59] <stdin> *beet
[09:59] <cpk1> bah, i'm brushing my teeth
[09:59] <stdin> not beat :P
[10:00] <Lijoh> can someone help me.. i change my harddsik to another pc my old pc is AMd and new pc is P4 how to change all driver ect: sound :)
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> !icons
[10:00] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> !icon
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> hmm
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> question
[10:00] <chuen> stdin: OK . Cheers.
[10:01] <LL_Hakaisou> is there a way to define a custom icon to a file without that icon applying to all files sharing it's extension?
[10:01] <cpk1> this kind of reminds me of what I gave up on; assigning .jpgs to folders (namely music folders)
[10:02] <sanityx> I'm a little confused about what the fuss is about getting codecs, and using automatix and all that. apt-get install vlc. done.
[10:02] <stdin> Lijoh: it should just detect the chances and load the right drivers
[10:02] <LL_Hakaisou> vlc works on linux?
[10:02] <sanityx> duh.
[10:02] <LL_Hakaisou> *installs ASAP*
[10:02] <sanityx> its cross platform
[10:02] <stdin> GTK tho :(
[10:02] <sanityx> well yeah but it works!
[10:02] <sanityx> and easily
[10:03] <stdin> yeah, I have it :P
[10:03] <Lijoh> i see .. but it not load right drivers .. maybe i should restart
[10:03] <stdin> but I'd like to have a Qt version
[10:03] <LL_Hakaisou> what in the world was all that stuff it just installed?!
[10:03] <sanityx> stdin, point taken. but its still a lot simpler than installing all the various codecs, just to get kaffine to work
[10:03] <sanityx> even with automatix.
[10:04] <stdin> sanityx: what so hard about installing the codecs? and I don't/won't use automatix, as I want a working system
[10:04] <sanityx> stdin, nothing's hard about it.
[10:04] <sanityx> installing vlc is easier.
[10:04] <sanityx> apt-get install codec 1 codec 2 codec 3 etc.
[10:04] <sanityx> or
[10:04] <sanityx> apt-get install vlc
[10:05] <sanityx> Automatix has yet to brake my system, I just can't figure out how its useful.
[10:05] <LL_Hakaisou> so, do i have all the codecs now?
[10:05] <stdin> bah, my favourite media player is mplayer :P
[10:05] <sanityx> LL_Hakaisou, anything vlc can play, you can play
[10:06] <sanityx> Its identical to the windows version. Identical, but shittier.
[10:07] <sanityx> I finally got fglrx working. But now I have nothing to do with it :-P
[10:08] <stdin> install google earth :P
[10:08] <LL_Hakaisou> damnit...
[10:08] <sanityx> stdin, lol. That's still nothing.
[10:08] <stdin> sanityx: and beryl, then play with it :P
[10:09] <sanityx> stdin, already did beryl, and compiz
[10:09] <sanityx> they
[10:09] <LL_Hakaisou> kaffeine is still refusing to display video files.
[10:09] <LL_Hakaisou> it'll play them, but the video won't display
[10:09] <sanityx> LL_Hakaisou, Installing VLC wont let you play video in caffine
[10:09] <sanityx> it lets you play it in vlc
[10:10] <LL_Hakaisou> oh
[10:10] <LL_Hakaisou> well crud
[10:10] <LL_Hakaisou> nevermind then
[10:10] <sanityx> stdin, Beryl and compiz are entertaining, but mostly useless, and totally unstable.
[10:11] <stdin> sanityx: ahh, it's a good way to waste some time :)
[10:11] <naught101> anyone here ever used familiar linux on a ipaq?
[10:12] <sanityx> stdin, yeah until it crashes X
[10:12] <stdin> sanityx: that's probably more to do with the ATI driver than beryl
[10:13] <sanityx> stdin, If that were true, x would crash more often. Its perfectly fine under normal X, even when playing 3d games
[10:13] <sanityx> i play tremulous without a problem
[10:14] <stdin> sanityx: I have beryl with the i810 driver, and X *never* crashes
[10:14] <sanityx> stdin, lucky you
[10:14] <stdin> sanityx: sometimes beryl may crash, but never X
[10:14] <reldruh> I have a media center remote I'm trying to get working with lirc. How do I know whether to use lirc_mceusb or lirc_mceusb2?
[10:14] <K`zan> xerroz:   Solved the bios limit problem.  booted wincrap CD and ran fixmbr and fixboot, wincrap boots!  Made a grub boot diskette and I can boot linux off that.  Someone said that lilo can handle the bios problem, so I'll look into that.  BTW, the grub error was #18 (you are screwed and SOL with grub).  Thanks again for your help, now I can keep working on getting the wireless card going under linux.
[10:14] <sanityx> ah sorry thats what i meant stdin
[10:14] <sanityx> X doesnt crash, beryl does
[10:14] <sanityx> beryl isnt likely to crash x, since it just runs on top of it
[10:15] <stdin> sanityx: yeah, beryl isn't even v1.0 yet, so it's bound to be unstable
[10:16] <sanityx> stdin, I know
[10:16] <sanityx> not that version numbers really mean anything in open source
[10:16] <sanityx> I mean wine has been sub-1.0 for how long now?
[10:16] <stdin> heh, true :P
[10:16] <sanityx> 10 years or some crazy number?
[10:16] <stdin> but wine isn't stable either
[10:17] <sanityx> yeah thats true
[10:17] <sanityx> but thats more due to the nature of what it does
[10:34] <jack> hi i cannot get my micro to work, neither in skype nor in the soud recorder, sound is turned on and it uses the alsa
[10:35] <jack> anyona any idea?
[10:41] <reldruh> I'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?
[10:43] <nagyv> hello! Is here any kino expert? I would like to edit a mpeg video (I just my desktop movements), but can not import it. It talks about an empty playlist, but I do not find playlists at all.
[10:46] <H264> Hi
[10:47] <H264> I am going to attempt to compile a game...
[10:47] <H264> and I just feel better if somebody holds my hand while I do it
[10:47] <brosioz> anyone known because mutt require the installation of postfix ? i don't want a mail server although it is bind to localhost!!
[10:48] <alexicon> !apache
[10:48] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:49] <Lynoure> brosioz: It does not require postfix, it requires some mail server.
[10:50] <nagyv> H264: just go on, and ask if there are any problems! :)
[10:50] <reldruh> I'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?
[10:50] <H264> I intend to... first time at compiling with the command line
[10:51] <H264> to compile c programs, it's cpp <filename> right?
[10:52] <Lynoure> brosioz: you can have a mail server without running it, too. But then you'll need to use something to get your mails to mutt (e.g. fetchmail)
[10:52] <brosioz> Lynoure: so why require a mail server ?
[10:52] <pearly> ah... no. it's 'gcc' <filename>, and there are many options.
[10:52] <brosioz> mutt is a mail client
[10:52] <H264> ohh, gcc?
[10:52] <brosioz> i want a mail client in console
[10:52] <brosioz> and mutt is the best
[10:52] <H264> looking at it...
[10:52] <Lynoure> brosioz: Yes, but not one that fetches the mails from a remote site on its own
[10:52] <H264> info gcc
[10:52] <H264> :)
[10:53] <pearly> good luck. theres much to read...
[10:53] <Jucato> H264: install the "build-essential" package if you need the compiler
[10:53] <brosioz> Lynoure: understand so the mail server in this case postifx will do that ?
[10:53] <H264> it's not built in?
[10:54] <Jucato> H264: nope
[10:55] <H264> hmm
[10:55] <H264> how big is it?
[10:55] <H264> 56K modem is a huge bottle-neck...
[10:55] <Lynoure> brosioz: yes, if you forward your remote mails to it.
[10:56] <arunkale> hey people.. if i use a microsoft keyboard, will the shortcut keys on the keyboard (volume, mail, etc) work with kubuntu as well?
[10:57] <H264> hmm, I have a Makefile.in and a Makefile.am
[10:57] <H264> it looks like those two files are important
[10:58] <reldruh> arunkale: some should. Edgy is really good with that kind of stuff. The volume buttons should work and maybe a few others. I'm not sure about mail buttons and whatnot
[10:58] <arunkale> reldruh: thanks
[10:58] <reldruh> arunkale: download the liveCD and see what works and what doesn't
[10:58] <reldruh> arunkale: no problem
[10:58] <reldruh> arunkale: you don't happen to be a lirc guru, do you?
[10:59] <arunkale> reldruh: not really :) why do you ask?
[10:59] <reldruh> arunkale: I'm having problems getting a remote working :-(
[10:59] <Lynoure> brosioz: But, I too am undecided on whether MUAs should depend on MTAs, but I'm not a dev, so it's not my decision. You can voice your opinion to devs and maybe they'll listen
[11:00] <arunkale> what remote?
[11:00] <reldruh> arunkale: I got it with a hauppauge pvr-500. It's a microsoft mce remote. Very similar to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Mce-hauppauge.jpg
[11:02] <arunkale> reldruh: never used a remote, sorry
[11:02] <reldruh> arunkale: lirc-modules-source won't build. I'm debating giving up for the night :-(
[11:02] <nagyv> H264: don't you have a readme or install file with the source code? probably there you would get some info also about compiling
[11:02] <reldruh> arunkale: no problem. Good luck with your keyboard
[11:02] <arunkale> reldruh: thanks, i hope i get my nvidia drivers set up properly
[11:03] <pearly> H264: Oh yeah. Then you've got a GNU autoconf package. Definitely needs build-essentials. Try to get the CD/DVD, by all means - build-essentials might pull quite some packages.
[11:03] <alexicon> which php should i install 4 or 5?
[11:03] <reldruh> arunkale: they're relatively easy to setup. Use the ones from the website if you can. They're newer and the install is almost painless
[11:04] <arunkale> reldruh: i read the instructions on the ubuntu website to install from the restricted repos
[11:04] <reldruh> arunkale: that works too :-)
[11:05] <alexicon> which version of php is used more commonly now?
[11:06] <X704> sorry, disconnected from internet...
[11:07] <X704> so what do I need to compile C/C++ programs?
[11:08] <reldruh> X704: build-essential is a good start
[11:08] <reldruh> X704: it's a group of packages for compiling programs\
[11:08] <Jucato> X704: the build-essential package will install the essential packages for compiling basic C/C++ programs
[11:08] <X704> ok, how do I get it?
[11:09] <Cugel> Dudes, whenever I click on a trailer at http://www.apple.com/trailers/  Firefox quits without any message (hard crash!) -- anyone else having the same problem? I'm not sure if it's Kubuntu-related, but still, give it a try.
[11:09] <alexicon> can anyone tell me which version of php is most common now?
[11:10] <X704> while X704 uses his two Macs
[11:11] <X704> err, I ment Cugel
[11:11] <X704> ...
[11:11] <X704> so is the command something like apt-get build-essencial?
[11:12] <me2win> yes
[11:12] <reldruh> X704: apt-get install build-essential
[11:12] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:12] <Jucato> or use Adept
[11:12] <Cugel> X704: eh?
[11:12] <alexicon> !php
[11:12] <X704> ok thanks :)
[11:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:12] <alexicon> argh
[11:13] <reldruh> I'm having problems buliding lirc-modules-source. Can anybody help?
[11:13] <X704> I'll be back for you!
[11:15] <premier_> Im having trouble with my laptop related to closing the lid and screensavers
[11:16] <premier_> When I close the lid, the screensaver still shows.  (I can still see it flashing)
[11:17] <alexicon> can i run php 4 and 5 side by side?
[11:18] <stdin> don't see why not, the packages don't conflict
[11:18] <alexicon> ty stdin
[11:18] <premier_> Also, even if I turn off the kde screensaver, the x screen saver still runs
[11:19] <naught101> anyone know if it's possible to connect to two interfaces at once with knetworkmanager? (usb0 for Ipaq, and eth1 for 'net)
[11:20] <reldruh> naught101: I'm not sure if it's possible with knetworkmanager, but it's definitely possible
[11:20] <alexicon> naught101: im pretty sure knetworkmanager can only cope with one device at a time
[11:20] <alexicon> but you can configure all your devices in kcontrol
[11:21] <naught101> cheers
[11:21] <naught101> does everything it does go through ifup/down?
[11:21] <alexicon> ifconfig yes
[11:21] <Flosoft> hey
[11:22] <alexicon> its best to either configure it all manually or all through kcontrol
[11:22] <Flosoft> I did an upgrade to feisty, but the system freezed in the middle of it
[11:22] <Flosoft> nor after the reset, I can't boot anymore
[11:22] <Cugel> Flosoft: that sounds bad.
[11:22] <Cugel> Can you boot into failsafe mode?
[11:22] <Flosoft> nope
[11:22] <Flosoft> it has problems mounting the root file system :S
[11:23] <Cugel> Time to boot from a rescue disk, I think.
[11:23] <Flosoft> well ... I can go into grub
[11:23] <Flosoft> but once I start the rescue mode for example:
[11:23] <Cugel> You may need to repair the root mount -- anyone ideas about how to do that?
[11:23] <alexicon> its probably lost your kernel image
[11:24] <Flosoft> Cannot open root device "UUID=*something*" or unknown-block(0,0)
[11:24] <Flosoft> Please append a correct root= boot option
[11:24] <Flosoft> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:25] <Flosoft> that is what rescue mode gives me
[11:25] <naught101> alexicon: when I run ifconfig I get 'usb0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 7E:EA:33:6F:CC:83' etc. etc.
[11:26] <naught101> but when I run 'sudo ifup usb0' I get 'Ignoring unknown interface usb0=usb0.'
[11:26] <alexicon> yeah, ifconfig displays your network device configuration, as well as altering them
[11:26] <alexicon> ifup turns the interface on as it were, while down disconnects it
[11:26] <alexicon> ifconfig tells you what its details are, or changes them
[11:26] <naught101> yeah, but I can't turn it on with ifup
[11:26] <naught101> cause it tells me it's ignoring it
[11:27] <alexicon> oh usb device...
[11:27] <alexicon> erm
[11:27] <arunkale> how does one change the MAC address on kubuntu?
[11:27] <alexicon> ive never seen a network interface called usb0...
[11:27] <naught101> no idea
[11:27] <naught101> it's usb networking to an ipaq running familiar linux
[11:27] <alexicon> a usb what?
[11:27] <Flosoft> anyone able to help me?
[11:28] <alexicon> wifi device?
[11:28] <naught101> no, it's an ipaq handheld computer, connecting over ethernet simulated usb.
[11:28] <alexicon> ive got no idea then :P
[11:29] <naught101> knetworkmanager connects it fine, but then it disconnects my ethernet (internet)
[11:29] <alexicon> strange
[11:30] <naught101> indeed. I might try connecting to the usb0 and then manually conencting to ethernet
[11:30] <naught101> cheers for the help. I might be back with questions :)
[11:30] <alexicon> :)
[11:31] <Hoondie> Hello people, if I install gnome on top of Kubuntu, how can i make one or the other the default?
[11:31] <alexicon> when you log out
[11:32] <alexicon> and log back in, it will ask you if you want gnome to be your default session
[11:32] <alexicon> you can change it any time you login
[11:33] <Hoondie> So Gnome will apppear as another session that i can select when logging in?
[11:33] <alexicon> yep
[11:33] <Hoondie> ok,  thanks for ya help :)
[11:33] <alexicon> np
[11:34] <Flosoft> pls .. .anyone? I really want to get feisty up and running
[11:34] <leopartux_> hi  how can i install dolphin file manager to kubuntu
[11:35] <H264> ok, read some instructions and downloaded the recomended build essencial...
[11:35] <leopartux_> i cant find it   add remove programs window
[11:35] <H264> now it wants me to download autoconf 2.52 or better
[11:35] <Jucato> !dolphin
[11:36] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[11:37] <Jucato> leopartux_: you can download this .deb package and install it. it's the 2nd to the latest version: http://digilander.libero.it/dr_kabuto/edgy/dolphin_0.8.1-1_i386.deb
[11:38] <H264> what do I need to know about autoconf?
[11:39] <Jucato> H264: what do you mean?
[11:40] <rapid> how can I allow a connection to another machine from the terminal for a remote desktop connection?
[11:41] <H264> ok, the game came with a script, and said to ./autogen.sh
[11:41] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!!! :)
[11:42] <Jucato> H264: installed autoconf and automake1.9?
[11:42] <H264> and it siad after that I needed autoconf 2.52
[11:42] <H264> guess not
[11:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: blah been up all night...celebrating..going to bed
[11:42] <snake> what is the grep cmd to see what nvidia drivers am i using ??
[11:43] <me2win> glxinfo i think
[11:44] <snake> thanx
[11:44] <H264> based on what jucato said, I need autoconf and automake 1.9...
[11:46] <leopartux_> Jucato:  i have downloaded the package. now how can i install it
[11:46] <leopartux_> by using apt-get command ?
[11:46] <Jucato> leopartux_: right-click on it -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[11:46] <H264> what's that best way to get autocanf and automake?
[11:46] <leopartux_> thanks
[11:47] <Jucato> H264: apt-get or Adept. take your pick
[11:47] <H264> so apt-get autoconf?
[11:47] <eilker> !Audacity
[11:47] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[11:47] <Jucato> H264: sudo apt-get install autconf
[11:48] <H264> E: could not find package autoconf
[11:49] <H264> ideas?
[11:49] <Jucato> !info autoconf
[11:49] <ubotu> autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB
[11:49] <Jucato> but you were able to install build-essential earlier, right?
[11:50] <Jucato> H264: sudo apt-get install autoconf <--- sorry for the typo
[11:50] <H264> yeah, no problem
[11:50] <H264> oh
[11:50] <H264> :)
[11:51] <H264> and it's autoconf, not autconf :)
[11:51] <H264> thanks for your help :)
[11:52] <Jucato> that's why I said, "sorry for the typo"
[11:52] <Jucato> I got it wrong the first time
[11:52] <eilker> anyone using audacity _? i installed it, but no text in its menu.
[11:53] <H264> err, ok, my bad this time
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> is it still " Jucato Q & A"?
[11:53] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: heh no. you just managed to walk in at a slight segue :)
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, more like wander in after a party
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> @now Chicago
[11:53] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: March 04 2007, 04:53:44
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[11:54] <Mena> hey how to make an image to be appear as if it was a 3d but its already 2d
[11:54] <Mena> :D
[11:54] <aliveuser> hello
[11:54] <H264> hmm, it looks like I need an older version of autoconf as well...
[11:55] <Cugel> mena: 'appear'?
[11:55] <H264> how do I get an older version?
[11:55] <Jucato> H264: sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[11:55] <Cugel> You could add some shadow to it?
[11:55] <Mena> Cuget, yes
[11:55] <Mena> Cuget, hmmm ok
[11:55] <Cugel> And you can put it on a cube or a ball and do some raytracing.
[11:55] <Mena> Cuget, ookay
[11:56] <Jucato> Mena: image editors/painting programs
[11:56] <aliveuser> hello, someone that could help me with a cd/dvd problem??
[11:56] <H264> night
[11:56] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: good night! (are you drunk? :P)
[11:56] <Mena> Jucato, i am planning to make an image with to be appear as 3d but it already 2d
[11:57] <Mena> Cuget, but Cuget tell me some ways
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no!...........
[11:57] <Jucato> Mena: yes. but what does it have to do w/ Kubuntu? :D
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> haha. good luck with everything
[11:57] <Jucato> hehe go to sleep
[11:57] <Mena> jucato, i just sked and i am planning to make it for kbfx but the problwm with background so i asked
[11:58] <Mena> asked*
[11:58] <Jucato> ah :)
[11:58] <H264> oOo, it's working!
[11:58] <H264> will report back in a bit
[11:58] <Mena> Cuget, Thanks :)
[12:01] <H264> configure: error: Could not find zlib library.
[12:01] <H264> configure failed
[12:01] <xBill> aliveuser: just ask
[12:02] <premier_> I having problems with screensavers, closing the lid of my laptop, etc
[12:02] <premier_> It seems to behave very randomly, as if it has a mind of its own
[12:03] <premier_> Im using kpowersaver
[12:03] <premier_> Im using kpowersave
[12:03] <H264> so it looks like I need the zlib package
[12:03] <Jucato> H264: install zlib1g-dev
[12:03] <Mena> Jucato, or Cuget What is s PyXML.
[12:03] <H264> apt-get again?
[12:04] <xBill> premier: had a look a klaptopdaemon ?
[12:04] <Jucato> H264: when it asks for <package> library or headers, look for the -dev package for it
[12:04] <Jucato> H264: yes. unless you want to use Adept
[12:06] <H264> I'm such a n00bie at this :)
[12:08] <H264> heh, another problem...
[12:09] <arunkale> Jucato: any idea how I can change my MAC address in kubuntu??
[12:09] <Jucato> arunkale: sorry.. I don't even know what a MAC address is :(
[12:09] <Jucato>  going away now
[12:09] <arunkale> ok, thanks
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale: there is a way to regenerate it, i don't think you can change it on your own
[12:10] <arunkale> what do you mean?
[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale: the only way to do it that I know of is through a router
[12:10] <arunkale> can i at least fake it or something
[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> so the router clones a new MAC address
[12:12] <aliveuser> i enter a cd in the device, it thinks a little and give this errors via logs
[12:12] <aliveuser> Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 8
[12:12] <aliveuser> i'm on a laptop and kubuntu-edgy
[12:13] <Mena> Jucato, befor you go away
[12:13] <eilker> can recordmydesktop save in avi format too or just ogg format ?
[12:13] <Mena> Jucato, do you know any thing about pyxml
[12:13] <arunkale> Admiral_Chicago: found a way
[12:13] <Mena> any one else
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[12:15] <Mena> !Hello!
[12:15] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[12:15] <stefan> can someone tell me what I have to do to find out which programm is "eating" my ram?
[12:15] <Mena> stefan, do you suing azureus
[12:15] <Mena> using*
[12:16] <stefan> azareus ?
[12:16] <H264> I'll be back for you!
[12:16] <Mena> azureus*
[12:16] <Mena> !azureus
[12:16] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[12:16] <xBill> arunkale:sudo aptitude install macchanger
[12:16] <arunkale> xBill: what's macchanger
[12:17] <Mena> stefan, bec as i guess its tkae a lot space fo the ram be cit susing java
[12:17] <stefan> no , ii dont use a toorent client
[12:17] <Mena> stefan, ok
[12:17] <stefan> No , I need a caommand to find out what is going on in my ram?
[12:18] <stefan> comand
[12:18] <stefan> which programm is using the ram?
[12:18] <Cugel> stefan: type 'top'
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> stefan: there is another app... KsysGuard... in K menu >> Syste
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> System
[12:19] <cerbero626> or pstree or ps -A | grep programmname
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> afk
[12:19] <stefan> okay I I  see MEM% that is the one for me, correct?
[12:20] <JohnFlux2> right
[12:22] <stefan> cool, thanks !!
[12:31] <marc_> Hello, can anyone help me concerning "login-screen-problems"?
[12:32] <H264> I'm back...
[12:32] <H264> with more problems...
[12:33] <H264> I guess I need imlib-progs or something like that
[12:33] <marc_> Hm..anyone here? Or are all of you "ghosts"?
[12:33] <mhb> hello everyone ... um ... I have a rather stupid question. When I run an X program as root (using sudo -i) the app states "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" ... can I fix it somehow?
[12:34] <abattoir> mhb: hi :)
[12:34] <abattoir> mhb: tried xhost + ?
[12:35] <abattoir> marc_: well, there are 324 others :)
[12:35] <mhb> abattoir: how to do that?
[12:35] <abattoir> mhb: just run 'xhost +' in a terminal
[12:35] <mhb> oh, thanks
[12:35] <H264> meh, I'll be back yet again
[12:36] <abattoir> mhb: works?
[12:36] <mhb> .o)
[12:36] <mhb> abattoir: yeah
[12:36] <marc_> Ok. I got a Problem concerning the login-screen. Bootup everything works fine, but then a black screen comes up. If I change via ctrl+alt+F7 my normal login screen is there. How could I set it back thats there from the beginning?
[12:36] <abattoir> mhb: cool, you are however giving access to 'everyone', so technically could be a vulnerability i guess(the fine print)
[12:36] <mhb> abattoir: everyone on the local machine, right?
[12:37] <abattoir> mhb: i think any user on the machine and any 'host' on the network as well
[12:37] <alexicon> !mantis
[12:38] <ubotu> mantis: web-based bug tracking system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.19.4-3.2 (edgy), package size 882 kB, installed size 4668 kB
[12:38] <abattoir> mhb: 'man xhost' has more info
[12:44] <marc_> Can no one help me? What do I need to set up that after bootup the loginscreen is there instead of a black screen?
[12:44] <_n_e_o_> can anyone answer a question?
[12:45] <apokryphos> !anyone
[12:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:45] <marc_> I can switch to the loginscreen via ctrl+alt+F7...but its not turned on by default, but it was before upgrading...
[12:45] <_n_e_o_> lol
[12:45] <_n_e_o_> how can i get on undernet with Konverastion?
[12:45] <rbrunhuber> Does anyone use kerry/beagle?
[12:45] <alexicon> !flyspray
[12:45] <ubotu> flyspray: lightweight Bug Tracking System (BTS) in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8-8 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2292 kB
[12:47] <rbrunhuber> Beagle shows a icon in the system tray. Do you know how to get rid of this?
[12:48] <Cugel> rbrun: it's not in the options?
[12:50] <rbrunhuber> Cugel: I could not find any option there. I have the kerry icon that is sufficient but there is a beagle icon to which spoils the system tray.
[12:50] <Cugel> Yes, I see. Kerry should ditch the standard Beagle icon, I think. I don't have Beagle but I'm considering it.
[12:51] <Cugel> "Server: irc.gimp.org Channel: #dashboard"  -- maybe ask there?
[12:54] <H264> I need some help trying to compile this thing still
[12:55] <H264> it's asking for an imlib of  sorts
[12:55] <H264> gdk-imlib-dev
[12:56] <H264> and imlib-progs
[12:59] <flo> i'vd installed amarok and kdevelop under a gnome envirment but now i have a /home/-/.kde/share/config empty folder how can i remadiate?
[12:59] <arunkale> should i wait for my edgy iso to finish downloading, or should i install dapper and then upgrade
[12:59] <alexander_> Hello
[12:59] <arunkale> coz edgy has about 5 more hours to go and i'm getting impatient :)
[01:00] <xBill> if you don't wait, you will have to wait for the upgrade to finish, what takes about same as long
[01:00] <alexander_> does anybody know some backup software for kubuntu?
[01:01] <xBill> alexander_ : keep
[01:04] <kraut> moin
[01:05] <alexander_> hello
[01:05] <xBill> sers
[01:05] <alexander_> i want to backup my kubuntu
[01:05] <alexander_> which programm would you use?
[01:05] <xBill> hmm...
[01:06] <alexander_> can i use acronis?
[01:07] <alexander_> hmm i will simply try it
[01:07] <alexander_> ok tnx for your help
[01:07] <xBill> i guess yes, acronis doesn't care if there is linux or anything else on the partition
[01:09] <leopartux_> i want to install opera   can you give me link for its deb package
[01:10] <xBill> http://www.opera.com/download/ ?
[01:11] <arunkale> leopartux_ : just install using adept?
[01:11] <pointwood> leopartux_: ubuntu got a repo that contains it
[01:13] <leopartux_> i couldnt find it in adept programs lis
[01:13] <leopartux_> Sysinfo for 'leopartux-laptop': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.60GHz at 600 MHz (1197 bogomips), , RAM: 224/233MB, 109 proc's, 2.4h up
[01:14] <pointwood> leopartux_: you have to add that repo
[01:15] <pointwood> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[01:16] <leopartux_> is this the command to add that repo
[01:16] <leopartux_> and if i add it can i use it from adept
[01:16] <pointwood> it is the repo you add to your sources.list
[01:16] <pointwood> and yes, then you can use it in adept
[01:17] <leopartux_> thanks pointwood
[01:17] <pointwood> I have never added repos in adept, I always just edit sources.list, but you can add it in adept too
[01:18] <pointwood> just go to Adept -> manage repositories
[01:18] <pointwood> and add that line I posted above
[01:18] <crazy_bus> Are there any libraries I need besides libxvidcore to be able to encode to xvid with blender which uses ffmpeg
[01:18] <Erunno> !opera | leopartux_
[01:18] <ubotu> leopartux_: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:19] <pointwood> ahh, of course, ubotu has it covered :)
[01:20] <Erunno> leopartux_: Opera also provides a repository with the latest version: http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free
[01:21] <Erunno> leopartux_: Canonical's repo didn't provide the latest version of Opera in the past.
[01:21] <laller> Does anyone know how to get drivers for my 9600xt to work? (on x64)
[01:23] <arunkale> My ViewSonic widescreen monitor should work with Kubuntu, right?
[01:24] <arunkale> the optimum resolution for this is 1440x900
[01:24] <leopartux_> i have downloaded dolphin deb package and install it by right clicking and kubuntu pacage menu - install package
[01:25] <pointwood> arunkale: it should
[01:25] <arunkale> great3.
[01:25] <arunkale> great*
[01:25] <MetalCode> is there a way of installing an older version of KDE through the repositories?
[01:26] <pointwood> or at least, I can't see why it shouldn't
[01:26] <leopartux_> and now i am downloading deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/
[01:26] <pointwood> it works fine here on my laptop
[01:26] <pointwood> with that resolution
[01:27] <Erunno> pointwood: No problem with resolutions like 1280x800 ?
[01:27] <pointwood> 1440x900
[01:28] <pointwood> is what I run on this thinkpad
[01:28] <pointwood> z61t
[01:28] <pointwood> intel gfx :)
[01:29] <arunkale> i have nvidia geforce
[01:29] <Erunno> pointwood: Ah, good to hear. I thought I read about some bug with widescreens on launchpad.
[01:30] <arunkale> my friend tried installing ubuntu on his widescreen mac, and it didn't work
[01:30] <pointwood> Erunno: there probably are bugs, but it works fine here :)
[01:30] <arunkale> but i've heard it works with PCs
[01:31] <arunkale> i mean it didn't detect the widescreen resolution
[01:31] <pointwood> :/
[01:31] <Erunno> arunkale: It's probably solveable with some changes to xorg.conf, but it shouldn't be necessary.
[01:32] <Erunno> arunkale: Afaik this detection problem was solved in fedora and suse. Meh.
[01:40] <arunkale> everyone suddenly went quiet?
[01:48] <xushi> hi all
[01:49] <xushi> This is my second day with kubuntu 6.10, and so far so good! I'd like to ask, is there a link to all the new packages or their versions in the new herd releases? (1 through 5). I'm trying to find when/if evolution is upgraded
[01:50] <gabo> hello. i just installed wine, but i dont really know how to run the apps, any hints?
[01:51] <Jucato> xushi: please don't do that again
[01:51] <xushi> Do what again ?
[01:51] <Jucato> *** xushi sets the channel topic to "".
[01:51] <xushi> ?
[01:51] <MetalCode> gabo: wine app.exe
[01:51] <xushi> sh*t, very sorry for that
[01:52] <Tm_T> Jucato: When that happened?
[01:52] <xushi> It's this new irc client.. i typed /topic to see if there was one
[01:52] <xushi> didn't mean to delete :)
[01:52] <Jucato> Tm_T: xushi "accidentally" changed the topic
[01:52] <gabo> do i have to specify the route to the application?
[01:52] <Tm_T> Aah, now I see it.
[01:52] <Tm_T> Jucato: Yup, didn't see that topic change first.
[01:52] <Jucato> xushi: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <MetalCode> gabo: yes
[01:53] <Jucato> Tm_T: I'm locking the topic
[01:53] <xushi> I typed /topic expecting it to show.. but i guess kvirc does things differently
[01:54] <gabo> ok. before, kubuntu i used mandriva, and wine had a small graphical interface, how do i install it?
[01:54] <Jucato> xushi: /topic without a blank space after that
[01:54] <Jucato> xushi: you probably typed "/topic "
[01:54] <xushi> nope, i typed "/topic"
[01:54] <xushi> i'm sure of it, ijust double checked
[01:54] <xushi> anyway.. sorry for that
[01:54] <Jucato> ok
[01:55] <ForgeAus> Jucato how do I fix my Kaffeine?
[01:55] <ForgeAus> it give no konsole error, in fact it does nothing
[01:55] <ForgeAus> (it runs as root tho)
[01:55] <ForgeAus> it should give some init messages and stuff as it starts up, but it doesn't even do that
[01:55] <Jucato> ForgeAus: try moving the kaffeinerc file in ~/.kde/share/config/
[01:55] <ForgeAus> should I try reinstall?
[01:56] <conteblackheim> qualche itailiano che pu darmi una mano !^?
[01:56] <ForgeAus> thanx
[01:56] <Tm_T> !it
[01:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:56] <conteblackheim> ho installato ieri kubuntu e nn ci capsioc nulla !
[01:56] <Tm_T> conteblackheim: Go to italian channels or use english thank you.
[01:58] <rbrunhuber> how can i grep for something starting with --?
[01:58] <Tm_T> '--foofoo' ?
[01:58] <ForgeAus> hmm didn't fix it
[01:58] <rbrunhuber> Tm_T:  nope sorry, tried that already
[01:59] <rbrunhuber> Tm_T: "  does not help either
[01:59] <Lynoure> rbrunhuber: use  -e --
[01:59] <Tm_T> Lynoure: Hi.
[01:59] <rbrunhuber> Lynoure: thanxs
[02:00] <Lynoure> Tm_T: hi (just half there, working elsewhere)
[02:00] <Tm_T> Lynoure: Oh you've always been only half of a man anyway.
[02:00] <Tm_T> peltonen: Moin.
[02:01] <rbrunhuber> On kde startup with kerry this process is started: beagle-search --debug /usr/lib/beagle/Search.exe --icon. But i can't find who is starting it
[02:01] <gabo> hey just one quick questiong, im trying to specify the route to one file, using the terminal but the route has a space in between, how do i type
[02:01] <Tm_T> gabo: /foo/foo\ foo/ ?
[02:01] <gabo> ok thanks
[02:01] <Lynoure> Tm_T: :P
[02:01] <Tm_T> '\ ' as space
[02:01] <rbrunhuber> gabo: Escape the space with \
[02:02] <Tm_T> Lynoure: I knew you'd agree with me.
[02:04] <Lynoure> Tm_T: Not willing to take it further on the support channel.
[02:04] <Tm_T> Lynoure: Yup, can't give that kind od support here.
[02:05] <Tm_T> s/od/of/
[02:06] <phicho> hi can someone pls tell me how to install 'bulid-essential' and 'linux-headers' package on kubuntu i can't find them in Package Manager
[02:07] <ForgeAus> !repository
[02:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:08] <phicho> well in ubundu they wore in Package Manager but not in kubuntu
[02:09] <ForgeAus> manage repositories in Adept
[02:09] <phicho> thanks alot
[02:11] <noe> hola
[02:12] <gogu> hello evbd
[02:12] <gogu> im new in linux
[02:12] <gogu> help me pls
[02:12] <Shadowtester> is there any way to make a program always minimize to the system tray I have been using alltray but have to configure it to do that each time I run the program
[02:13] <Lynoure> gogu: We have no idea what you need help with.
[02:14] <gogu> i wolud like to know how things should be installed and everything
[02:14] <gogu> i like very much ubuntu linux
[02:14] <gogu> it is much better than win
[02:15] <Jucato> gogu: there is a very helpful, beginner level, document installed with Kubuntu. It's called the Kubuntu Desktop Guide and can be found in the Help Center (K menu -> Help)
[02:16] <gogu> im usding ubuntu linux.wher can i find this doc?
[02:16] <excelsior> Hello, I got little trouble on KDE, my resolution has been changed by a soft and i can't make it back to 1280*1024
[02:17] <Jucato> gogu: System -> Help I think. also, this is the #kubuntu channel for Kubuntu Linux. #ubuntu is the channel for Ubuntu
[02:17] <Ace2016> hi all
[02:17] <gogu> thks
[02:17] <Ace2016> how do i start a failsafe x terminal from the terminal?
[02:17] <Ace2016> i mean a failsafe xserver
[02:17] <Ace2016> you know the very plain basic one with just a terminal
[02:17] <Ace2016> no kde or gnome or whatever
[02:18] <Ace2016> very basic
[02:19] <excelsior> well, nobody to help ? I'm good for restarting X :-/
[02:20] <gabo> i was just able to run Jcreator on wine, but the program is asking me for the route to JDK, i dont know where it is located..
[02:21] <Ace2016> so who do i get the basic xserver
[02:21] <Ace2016> the failsafe terminal one
[02:21] <Ace2016> its what you get when there is no kde and stuff
[02:21] <rapid> excelsior: to restart x press ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:25] <curtis> can anyone help me out with some Beryl weirdness?
[02:26] <Ace2016> curtis: what beryl weirdness?
[02:26] <korisnik> in which repository can i find mplayer on kubuntu???
[02:27] <Ace2016> winamp?
[02:28] <Ace2016> korisnik: its in multiverse
[02:28] <curtis> Ace2016:  When I start Beryl, I get 18 desktops.  LOL
[02:28] <korisnik> Ace2016: multiverse?
[02:28] <Ace2016> curtis: what version of beryl and kde are you using? you might have to set the number of desktops in kde to 1
[02:29] <korisnik> the thing i dont understand is when i add rep throu adpet_manager do i need to preform anyother action to get it working?
[02:29] <korisnik> like download gpg keys and stuff
[02:29] <curtis> Ace2016 : 0.1.9999.2~0beryl
[02:29] <curtis> I have change KDE to 1 desktop, started Beryl and samething
[02:29] <Ace2016> korisnik: how about i just show you my sources list
[02:30] <korisnik> think i got it.. sec
[02:31] <Tm_T> btse: Ping.
[02:31] <Tm_T> D'oh.
[02:33] <Ace2016> http://pastebin.ca/380904
[02:33] <Ace2016> curtis: ask in #beryl or #kde they should be able to help you
[02:34] <Jucato> actually in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <curtis> Ace2016  thanks.  I just renamed the settings for beryl and started it back up.  Looks like it's working again :)
[02:36] <Ace2016> bye all
[02:37] <alexicon> hey people. havent used apache for a couple years now. to change the port it listens on do i only have to change this ports.conf file now?
[02:38] <alexicon> so it seems
[02:38] <alexicon> ok
[02:41] <rbrunhuber> alexicon: don't forget to restart/reload though
[02:41] <alexicon> yep rbrunhuber :)
[02:41] <mcscruff> lo all
[02:41] <alexicon> hi mcscruff
[02:41] <mcscruff> 1st off, kubuntu has improved soooo much since dapper
[02:41] <mcscruff> but i still have 1 huge problem
[02:42] <mcscruff> network manager doesnt work
[02:42] <neutraloss> knetwork manager?
[02:42] <mcscruff> yea
[02:42] <neutraloss> doesn't install ?
[02:42] <rapid_> how should I install x chat? download the .deb ?
[02:43] <mcscruff> it fins my wifi, i put in the wep key and nout
[02:43] <mcscruff> rapid , sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:43] <rapid_> no such package itsays
[02:43] <neutraloss> make sure universe repo is enabled
[02:43] <rapid_> how ?
[02:44] <mcscruff> neutraloss: it comes installed on latest beta, but it will not connect, i have to to it the old fashioned command line way
[02:45] <neutraloss> doesn't work for either wired or wireless?
[02:45] <rbrunhuber> mcscruff:  this can be quite tricky did you select the right method for wep key?
[02:45] <rapid_> neutraloss: how do i make sure universe repo is enabled.
[02:46] <rbrunhuber> mcscruff: i mean ascii vs. hex?
[02:46] <mcscruff> rbrunhuber: yep, i have used it many times before
[02:47] <mcscruff> i will retry tho, brb
[02:48] <mcscruff_> its working now, hmm
[02:49] <rapid_> never mind I found it
[02:49] <McScruff> does anyone here use kopete for msn?
[02:49] <rbrunhuber> McScruff: i do
[02:50] <McScruff> rbrunhuber: can u recieve files ok?
[02:50] <rbrunhuber> McScruff: Never tried this, sorry.
[02:51] <McScruff> all of them get to 100% then corrupt
[02:51] <rapid_> after modifying the /etc/apt/sources.list do you have to restart anything?
[02:51] <McScruff> sudo apt-get update
[02:52] <rapid_> ty
[02:58] <rbrunhuber> McScruff: So your knetworkmanager problem is "solved"?
[02:59] <McScruff> for now :)
[02:59] <rbrunhuber> fine
[02:59] <McScruff> next job is to remove these ghey madwifi drivers and put the latest in :O
[03:00] <McScruff> i love using VAP's
[03:00] <rbrunhuber> McScruff: I'm so happy I have a intel card. No messing around with drivers in years.
[03:01] <McScruff> rbrunhuber: i have an atheros card, no messing but i like to use aircrack and the normal drivers dont cut it
[03:10] <micah> is anyone else having problems with their firefox randomly crashing?
[03:13] <rbrunhuber> micah: Crashing or freezing?
[03:15] <micah> just altogether crashing
[03:15] <micah> no warning or anything
[03:15] <micah> possibly a gmail bug? because i usually keep it open
[03:15] <ladykeiden> from a terminal, how can i find out what is eating over 1gig of swap and all my cpu, and kill it?
[03:16] <rbrunhuber> ladykeiden: top
[03:16] <micah> try cmd top
[03:16] <McScruff> micah: i've never had a problem with gmail always being open
[03:17] <micah> i haven't either, until i a couple days ago
[03:17] <micah> i just made the switch to kubuntu from ubuntu, didn't know if it was an issue
[03:17] <McScruff> open firefox from command line, then when it crashs u can see why
[03:18] <micah> ah, ok
[03:19] <soon> I've just installed kubuntu 6.10 from scratch on two machines - on one of them when I try to install Firefox (using Adept) I get BREAK - same thing if I try to istall LyX
[03:20] <soon> any suggestions whats happening?
[03:22] <ladykeiden> anyone know what rsvg-convert is and y it eats 1gig of swap?
[03:22] <CShadowRun> can linux get viruses or something?
[03:22] <CShadowRun> mine seems to be a hell of alot slower than usual today
[03:23] <Jucato> !virus | CShadowRun
[03:23] <ubotu> CShadowRun: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:23] <CShadowRun> thanks :)
[03:23] <McScruff> !windows | mcscruff
[03:24] <McScruff> lmao
[03:24] <CShadowRun> lol
[03:24] <CShadowRun> anything similar to windows task manager?
[03:24] <McScruff> yes
[03:24] <CShadowRun> so i can see what processes are soaking up all my resources
[03:24] <CShadowRun> where is it? :P
[03:24] <McScruff> ksysguard
[03:25] <McScruff> in system
[03:25] <Jucato> CShadowRun: Ctrl+Esc
[03:25] <CShadowRun> thanks
[03:25] <CShadowRun> ctrl + escape brings up the k menu lol
[03:26] <Jucato> O.o
[03:26] <McScruff> on an unrelated Q, does anyone use xbmc, who has also used myth tv
[03:27] <CShadowRun> ok thats weird im using ~20% cpu, and 211mb / 2gb ram...and its lagging
[03:29] <CShadowRun> lol i lag less when i use beryl than if i don't
[03:29] <CShadowRun> slightly weird\cool
[03:29] <McScruff> :S
[03:29] <CShadowRun> seriously, no beryl and its choppy as hell, bringing up a dialog takes like 3 seconds
[03:29] <CShadowRun> run beryl and it runs perfect
[03:29] <ComputerHermit> hey guess what my soundcard is not supported
[03:33] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Which brand/model?
[03:33] <ComputerHermit> hang I got to look its not though but I'll show
[03:35] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: It often helps to try a search for the information you get from lspci -vv
[03:35] <ComputerHermit> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311469&highlight=CS46xx
[03:36] <ComputerHermit> Cirrus Logic Sound Fusion CS46XX
[03:37] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: There is a driver provided in the standard kernel. Why didn't you use this?
[03:38] <ComputerHermit> Iam useing 10.11
[03:38] <ComputerHermit> Iam not understanding
[03:39] <timster> How can I reset my password on MySql?
[03:39] <timster> dw
[03:39] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: In the post it looks like recompiled alsa?
[03:40] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Wasn't that you?
[03:40] <ComputerHermit> Iam skywalker___
[03:40] <ComputerHermit> in the fourm
[03:40] <ComputerHermit> do a serch tag and type sund fun
[03:40] <ComputerHermit> sound fun
[03:41] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: What happens if you just try sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx?
[03:41] <bordy> heya folks... quick and easy question I should already know: How do I add a program I installed (Flock) to the actual menus?
[03:41] <ComputerHermit> notheoing
[03:42] <ComputerHermit> notheing*
[03:42] <ComputerHermit> it just drops down
[03:42] <ComputerHermit> back to @
[03:43] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: So this completed successful. try playing some sound now.
[03:43] <ComputerHermit> sudo -i
[03:43] <ComputerHermit> I'll try root
[03:43] <soon> I want the following command run at start up time: "iwpriv ath0 mode 2"   ... where should I put it?
[03:44] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: You do not need to. what does lsmod |grep cs46xx say?
[03:44] <ComputerHermit> I'l pm it to you
[03:44] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: ok
[03:46] <ComputerHermit> forget it
[03:47] <ComputerHermit> snd_cs46xx             89448  0
[03:47] <ComputerHermit> gameport               17160  1 snd_cs46xx
[03:47] <ComputerHermit> snd_rawmidi            27264  1 snd_cs46xx
[03:47] <ComputerHermit> snd_ac97_codec         97696  1 snd_cs46xx
[03:47] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: So the module is loaded. No need to retry sudo -i.
[03:47] <ComputerHermit> snd_pcm                84612  3 snd_cs46xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[03:48] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Still no sound?
[03:48] <ComputerHermit> yep
[03:48] <MetalCode> is there any application using the sound card?
[03:48] <ComputerHermit> been like this for weeks now I realy dont mind I was thinking of getting a new sound card\
[03:48] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Don't give up so easy :-)
[03:49] <MetalCode> that includes flash
[03:49] <ComputerHermit> because what happend if I have to redo my pc and I'll have to go thrugh this  just to sert up sound
[03:49] <ComputerHermit> well I realy miss sndconfig
[03:49] <MetalCode> your sound card might be blocked so disabling system sound through the KDE control center should help
[03:50] <ComputerHermit> Iam in ub now
[03:50] <ComputerHermit> not ku I use ku all the time
[03:50] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: can you try ps ax|grep esound?
[03:52] <ComputerHermit> 6864 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep esound?
[03:52] <MetalCode> your using GNOME?
[03:52] <ComputerHermit> yea
[03:55] <timster> !phpmyadmin
[03:55] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[03:56] <ComputerHermit> Iam going to reboot thanks guys
[03:56] <ComputerHermit> I'll try this commands  in ku
[03:56] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: this won't help you either i think
[03:56] <ComputerHermit> or try to work it their
[03:56] <ComputerHermit> yea I know
[03:57] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Can you try two more commands?
[03:57] <ComputerHermit> sure!
[03:58] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Try ps ax |egrep "(arts|esd)"
[03:58] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:58] <oem> howdy
[03:58] <ComputerHermit> root@ComputerHermit:~# ps ax |egrep "(arts|esd)
[03:58] <ComputerHermit> >
[03:59] <ComputerHermit> thats what it does empty file
[03:59] <ComputerHermit> or did I do it right?
[03:59] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: yes. It was right
[03:59] <ComputerHermit> k
[04:00] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: It just means no soundserver is blocking the card.
[04:00] <ComputerHermit> ahhh
[04:00] <ComputerHermit> why
[04:00] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Don't be insulted: But did you try the magic unmute the card and turn up the volume trick?
[04:00] <kevin________> :)
[04:01] <kevin________> i had that problem once
[04:01] <ComputerHermit> yes
[04:01] <guiden> I'm doing a website and my pictures get all messed up, should I draw them as, what's that name again? it's not pixels but something else
[04:01] <rbrunhuber> try alsamixer
[04:01] <ComputerHermit> tell me the trick
[04:02] <kevin________> guiden, png?
[04:02] <ComputerHermit> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:02] <guiden> no
[04:02] <guiden> it's something else
[04:02] <guiden> you can enlarge them or shrink them without messing up the pixel
[04:02] <micah> guiden: vector
[04:02] <guiden> aha
[04:03] <guiden> is it better to use vector?
[04:03] <rbrunhuber> !pastebin
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <micah> guiden: eventually if you're doing a website, you have to rasterize it at some point
[04:03] <micah> guiden: .jpgs usually work the best
[04:03] <guiden> ok
[04:03] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Can you post the output of lspci -v to pastebin?
[04:04] <micah> guiden: just make sure they're of good quality
[04:04] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:05] <guiden> ok
[04:06] <ComputerHermit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8604/
[04:06] <renato> hi, what is the command for adding a group to an account?
[04:07] <guiden> micah, jpeg 2000 was very very good
[04:07] <guiden> jp2
[04:07] <morvok> morning all..
[04:07] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Is this a pci card? It does not show up in your lspci
[04:08] <ComputerHermit> no its on-board
[04:09] <ComputerHermit> I realy should reboot because I try to disable it in my bios I wasreading in the fourm I know what Iam doing so I'll just renable it brb ok thanks
[04:09] <guiden> but png was aslo good, no difference
[04:09] <ComputerHermit> pm me in the fourm or something
[04:09] <ComputerHermit> or I'll come back in here
[04:10] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: See you later. If you disabled it should be clear that it does not show up
[04:10] <ComputerHermit> I
[04:10] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Come back here
[04:10] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:10] <renato> hi, what is the command for  telling: the account xys belongs to the group " xxx"
[04:10] <ComputerHermit> thanks
[04:10] <renato> ?
[04:10] <phicho> hi i want to install build-essential package to install my modem on kubuntu i tried with sudo apt-get instal build-essential and error aqure something like E:\can't find build-essential package pls help
[04:11] <phicho> anyone?
[04:12] <sidnelson> hi ... i using kate for perl code is so anoyning use the mouse to run a script, anyone know a shortcut for change the "edit area" to the terminal at bottom
[04:12] <renato> I must have asked for the wordl.....
[04:12] <Forgacius> !build0essential
[04:12] <Forgacius> !build-essential
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build0essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:13] <Forgacius> sid I don't think the terminal in kate is intended for an edit area
[04:14] <rbrunhuber> renato: for your own user this works with groups
[04:14] <sidnelson> i want to run a script in the terminal
[04:14] <sidnelson> i want a shotcut to change the cursor from the code to de terminal
[04:15] <renato> rbrunhuber, and for a generic user? is there a command or do I need to modify /etc/passwd?
[04:15] <rbrunhuber> renato: or use groups [username] 
[04:15] <fxr> hi i need to use ktorrent 2.1 for a tracker m on.. where do i get the update? (i use xubuntu btw)
[04:15] <rbrunhuber> renato: /etc/passwd will not help you the list is in /etc/group
[04:16] <rbrunhuber> renato: for user root this would be groups root
[04:16] <renato> rbrunhuber I need to set an account as belonging also to the group www-data, hpw do I do that?
[04:17] <Jucato> sidnelson: try asking in #kde
[04:17] <renato> ok I found it... usermod
[04:17] <rbrunhuber> renato: man adduser
[04:18] <rbrunhuber> renato: adduser user www-data
[04:18] <phicho> but i tried sudo apt-get install bulid-essential and it didn't work some errror "E:\ can't find build-essential package " so how can i download this package from a page and than manualy install ?
[04:18] <McScruff> where is the kde power management thing
[04:19] <sidnelson> Jucato: thnks
[04:19] <morvok> morning again..
[04:21] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Hi
[04:21] <ComputerHermit> hi lol
[04:21] <ComputerHermit> Iam in kde now
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. odd.. flash player was working . now its not.
[04:21] <ComputerHermit> or kubuntu
[04:22] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[04:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:22] <phicho> how can i downlad this 'build-essential' package form my windows partition and than install on kubuntu ? because i need the build-esssential package to install my modem
[04:22] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Did you reenable your sound card in bios?
[04:23] <Graham> Can anyone give me a simple straight forward answer to this, I've mounted a samba share, it logs in and everything, but my linux user account  can't write to it, I have to use sudo, how do I fix that.
[04:23] <ComputerHermit> yes
[04:23] <Dr_willis> phicho,  that will be a bit hard to do - since build-essential is a meta-package that installs a lot  of OTHER packageas
[04:24] <ComputerHermit> I was wondering if I wil have to compile a driver
[04:24] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: You should not do this
[04:24] <phicho> thx Dr_willis
[04:24] <ComputerHermit> great
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Graham,  what is 'shareing' the samba share?
[04:24] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Can you repost lspic -v to pastebin?
[04:24] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:25] <Graham> Dr_willis: Huh?
[04:25] <McScruff> where is the bit where i can set up the laptop lid?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Graham,  you are going Linux samba server to linux client?
[04:27] <Graham> No, it's a Windows server.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Graham,  so the linux box.. going to the windows server share has read only access.
[04:28] <c1|freaky> hi all. how do i disable the bouncing cursor busy thingy in kde?
[04:28] <ComputerHermit> rburnhuber post sight plz Iam sorry I dident book it
[04:28] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  thats somewhere under 'launch feedback' check box.. but i forget where that box is at.. :)
[04:28] <Jucato> c1|freaky: press Alt+F2, run "kcontrol" and look in Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[04:28] <c1|freaky> yea :\
[04:29] <rbrunhuber> !pastebin| ComputerHermit
[04:29] <ubotu> ComputerHermit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:29] <ComputerHermit> ty
[04:29] <Graham> Dr_willis: The share mounts properly and with root access I can read/write to/from it but my local user account can't write to it.
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Graham,  what/how are you mounting it?
[04:30] <c1|freaky> thx Jucato & Dr_willis :)
[04:30] <Graham> In /etc/fstab: //server/Files /media/sf0 smbfs defaults,rw 0 0
[04:30] <ComputerHermit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8610/
[04:31] <Graham> The user details are somewhere else, but they do work.
[04:31] <Graham> For logging into the server.
[04:31] <McScruff> on latest herd 5, where is the power settings tab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:32] <Dr_willis> Graham,  Hmm..    well there may be some needed options for the permissions to get set properly. -  May want to check out that 'using samba book' im betting theres some extra setting thtats missing.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> brb phone
[04:33] <Graham> k
[04:36] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: Can you try sudo modprobe sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx again?
[04:37] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:38] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: It will not give you any output if it succeeds
[04:38] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:38] <ComputerHermit> Iam going to post
[04:39] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: did you get output?
[04:39] <ComputerHermit> when I did sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx it just droped down
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> to @
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> ect..
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> want me to post
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> ?
[04:40] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: That means it was successful
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> kool
[04:40] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: can you try alsamixer again?
[04:40] <ComputerHermit> ok
[04:41] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: This should load without any complaints
[04:41] <ComputerHermit> iam in root will trhis mess this up?
[04:41] <ComputerHermit> and I got a cig hanging out my mouth will this mess it up lol J/K
[04:42] <ComputerHermit> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:42] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: mom
[04:42] <troy> hey, has anyone had any trouble moving from edgy to fiesty using apt?
[04:42] <ComputerHermit> mom ?
[04:42] <troy> feisty* even...
[04:42] <troy> moment?
[04:43] <ComputerHermit> ahh
[04:43] <Jucato> hi troy! fancy seeing you here :)
[04:43] <Jucato> troy: there's an #ubuntu+1 channel for Feisty
[04:44] <troy> Jucato: just wondering if there were any obvious upgrade breakages... I don't have anything special on my system :)
[04:45] <Jucato> troy: so far, haven't heard of problems yet
[04:45] <troy> that's all I needed to know - minor problems I can handle - makes me learn things :)
[04:46] <rbrunhuber> ComputerHermit: mom: one moment please
[04:46] <ComputerHermit> yes :-)
[04:47] <Gizmo48> Am I in the right place for KUBUNTU issues?
[04:47] <NightBird> yes
[04:47] <Jucato> yep
[04:48] <troy> Jucato: thanks, I'll try the upgrade, and hope it doesn't break my KDE 4 build environment somehow :)
[04:49] <Gizmo48> OK, here it is.  Probably simple:  I JUST got my nvidia dual monitors to work.  But  now, several games and things open in the CENTER of BOTH monitors.  Not very useful.   Is there a way to tell an app which window to open in?
[04:51] <juampa> hola
[04:51] <juampa> tengo un pequeo problema con un disco duro
[04:51] <juampa> es ide
[04:51] <juampa> 180 gb
[04:52] <juampa> el caso es que lo acabo de conectar y no me lo reconoce por ningun lado
[04:52] <juampa> alguna idea?
[04:52] <NightBird> Gizmo48, no idea... sorry
[04:53] <juampa> no se si tendr q montarlo a algo asi
[04:53] <juampa> por defecto no lo reconoce
[04:53] <juampa> aunque en el arranque si me aparecia
[04:53] <Jucato> !es
[04:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:54] <Jucato> !pt
[04:54] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:55] <ComputerHermit> rbrunhuber  > I got to step away for a sec>> afk
[04:56] <rbrunhuber> ok
[04:56] <LL_Hakaisou> can someone help me with a serious error real quick?
[04:56] <Gizmo48> OK, is there a way to temporarily suspend the second monitor?
[04:58] <hacked_kernel> When opening an OpenGL screensaver it crashes???
[05:02] <arunkale> hey people
[05:02] <morphinex> hey folks, i have a question about viewing pdf files in konqueror
[05:02] <luisglz> hi! i'm having a little issue trying to connecto my laptop to a projector, can anyone help me?
[05:02] <LL_Hakaisou> !paste
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:03] <morphinex> when I browse to a pdf file, the file is automagically opened in konqueror, but I have no option to save the file
[05:03] <morphinex> I've tried to direct konqueror to use an kpdf as an external viewing app with no sucess
[05:04] <LL_Hakaisou> can someone help me with this error?
[05:04] <LL_Hakaisou> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8617/
[05:04] <morphinex> I also can't use the "save link as" option because the file that gets saved is just a plaintext html file or something, not the pdf
[05:04] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry, but what does this mean?!
[05:05] <CShadowRun> uhh does xwinwrap have a official download site or something?
[05:05] <arunkale> !pdf
[05:05] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[05:05] <CShadowRun> i can only seem to find dogey forum links or blogs :(
[05:06] <morphinex> the problem is that I can'
[05:06] <arunkale> does kpdf come built-in with kubuntu? can i view pdf files out of the box?
[05:06] <morphinex> I can't save a pdf from within konqueror
[05:06] <RadiantFire> yes
[05:06] <CShadowRun> !xwinwrap
[05:06] <RadiantFire> kpdf is built in
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <RadiantFire> you should be able to
[05:06] <arunkale> cool
[05:06] <CShadowRun> :(
[05:06] <morphinex> how?
[05:07] <morphinex> my advisor is breathing down my neck for these pdfs ;)
[05:07] <okebonne> hola
[05:07] <okebonne> como estas
[05:08] <okebonne> alguien de habla hispana!??
[05:08] <mia> yo mismo
[05:08] <okebonne> buenisimo
[05:08] <okebonne> bueno, por donde empiezo
[05:08] <morphinex> ok, so a regular pdf like http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf works fine
[05:08] <okebonne> esto es un chat de que?
[05:09] <okebonne> es algo nuevo q descubri de mi pc
[05:09] <ComputerHermit> hey hey
[05:09] <mia> bueno....es la primera vez que entro....supongo que del ubuntu
[05:09] <morphinex> but I am using library databases, so when I click on a link it must take the browser through a number of intermediary steps before it hits the pdf
[05:09] <okebonne> a mira
[05:09] <Erunno> !es | okebonne
[05:09] <ubotu> okebonne: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:09] <okebonne> yo tambuien
[05:09] <okebonne> gracias ubotu
[05:09] <okebonne> :D
[05:09] <morphinex> and in that case, I can't direct konqueror to open the pdf in an external app, and i can't save from within
[05:09] <jan__> what depency problems? :S
[05:10] <mia> ui...pues mejor cambiar al hispano
[05:10] <mia> cambio de canal
[05:10] <mia> o vemos en el kubuntu-es
[05:10] <okebonne> dale
[05:10] <Erunno> Does anyone know if the metabar is supposed to be just an empty sidepanel with a kubuntu wallpaper on it ?
[05:14] <jay> I want to install a deb package, but when I install it... my system reports the package as broken.. how can I install it so that the system does not report the package as broken. By forcing, not resolving?
[05:16] <Gizmo48> Jay - I think installing it will make things worse, sounds to me like there are some dependent files that would be replaced or altered.
[05:17] <jay> no, no... the package works quite ok... dependencies not really needed that much
[05:17] <jay> I just wanna force it so that it won't be reported as broken
[05:17] <jay> I've already tried
[05:17] <jay> dpkg --force-all -i package.deb
[05:18] <luisglz> hey when i press fn-f5 to connect my laptop to a projector or external display my whole screen just screws up, can anyone help me?
[05:18] <Gizmo48> How do you know it works fine?
[05:18] <jay> i'm installing "emesene", but it requires an update to python... updates only applied in feisty it seems... not willing to update python... it works quite nicely
[05:19] <Gizmo48> Jay- I wonder if converting it to another package type would help?
[05:20] <Gizmo48> Jay-U do that from terminal using the 'alien'
[05:20] <luisglz> hey when i press fn-f5 to connect my laptop to a projector or external display my whole screen just screws up, can anyone help me?
[05:21] <Gizmo48> Jay - one other thing, when you did the:dpkg --force-all -i package.deb thing, did you preface it with sudo?
[05:22] <jay> yeah
[05:23] <jay> it wants to install python2.4-gtk2... can't install that tho
[05:23] <jay> No i don't think conversion will help... dependencies will remain the same
[05:23] <jay> And I've tried using the tar.gz and building that... same result
[05:25] <Gizmo48> Jay, try this: sudo dpkg --force-conflicts -i package.deb            ----   If that doewsnt work, then this: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i package.deb   BUT I WARN YOU IN ADVANCE, you may well break your system.
[05:26] <epimeth> ahoy!
[05:26] <jay> doesn't force-all do all of those?
[05:26] <epimeth> anybody have kvm set up?
[05:27] <pete> Whenever I use the "su" prefix to anthing (or even on its own), I get an "authentication failed" error, despite me typing the correct password. What could be causing this?
[05:27] <jay> Won't that only break the package?
[05:27] <Gizmo48> Jay - May be, but try them anyway.  (I) do not have a ref source that lists -all
[05:28] <Gizmo48> Jay - in Kubuntu, you cannot su,   use sudo and YOUR password
[05:28] <Dr_willis> pete,  use 'sudo' not su?
[05:29] <ScarFreewill> how can i see if my 2d rendering is done or by who it is done?
[05:29] <jay> that's what i do
[05:29] <ScarFreewill> because my pc lags when scroling webpages but can run 3d games very good..
[05:29] <jay> u meant, pete right?
[05:30] <seba> how to save script in /bin ? (im newbie ;-) )
[05:30] <Gizmo48> Jay - why cant u install the files it says it needs??
[05:30] <Graham> Dr_willis: I don't think what you said earlier about my samba share worked correctly.
[05:30] <jay> coz python2.4-gtk2 is not installable
[05:30] <epimeth> anybody have kvm working?
[05:30] <ScarFreewill> !dri
[05:30] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[05:30] <Forgacius> !kvm
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <Forgacius> whats kvm?
[05:31] <ScarFreewill> i don't know
[05:31] <Forgacius> jay you can probably get python 2.4-gtk2
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Graham,  refresh my memory... its short like my... err... toes.. :)
[05:31] <epimeth> k-virtual-machine
[05:31] <jay> I don't wanna :) Ubuntu's already very dependent on python...
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Graham,  last i rember saying was check the "Using samba book"  :)
[05:31] <Gizmo48> Jay-  heres another one to try: sudo dpkg --force-depends -i package.deb
[05:31] <jay> tried that
[05:32] <epimeth> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM?highlight=%28kvm%29
[05:32] <epimeth> Forgacious ^
[05:32] <Graham> Iuno, but basicly I can mount a share on my Windows server downstairs, and have r/w access from the root account and using sudo, but from my account I can't write to the share.
[05:32] <ScarFreewill> does dri handle 2d rendering?
[05:32] <Gizmo48> Jay - I'm afraid I am at the end of MY ability to solve your problem...  sorry :-(
[05:33] <ForgeAus> Jay google the package find out what repository its in
[05:33] <ForgeAus> (the missing/uninstallable one)
[05:33] <Graham> So, I'm trying to give my user (UID 1000) r/w access to the share.
[05:33] <Graham> Because using sudo all the time really sucks.
[05:34] <xushi> argh.. damn Adept installer keeps crashing in kubuntu
[05:34] <ForgeAus> can you get kvm for edgy?
[05:34] <Graham> It also means I have to run any aplications that use the share in sudo, and it sort of kills the whole security aspect of sudo.
[05:35] <m4n> how do I bring back the battery monitor in my system tray (laptop)
[05:35] <Graham> Dr_willis: Any ideas?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Graham,  want to knopw how i do it? I cheat and use 'smb4k' that way the user is the one mountign the shares.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> your way is letting 'root' mount the shares. i guess.. IVe rarely ever mounted samba shares from the fstab
[05:36] <seba> how to save script in /bin ?
[05:36] <soulrider> !seen
[05:36] <Dr_willis> In fact - i cnt think of a single time ive set up samba shares in fstab.
[05:36] <Graham> I'd rather mount it from fstab, it's a bit cleaner.
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <Graham> Hold on, I've got an idea.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> seba,  write the script. then copy it over with 'sudo cp  bla bla bla'
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Graham,   ya check out that 'using samba' book yet? it may have examples of letting users have full access.
[05:37] <jan__> i installed a firefox package but now i cant find firefox oO
[05:37] <seba> dr_willis: thx.
[05:39] <m4n> how do I bring back the battery monitor in my system tray (laptop) I dont see that in list of applets
[05:39] <beo> morning all, I was trying set up a dual boot on my new latop and the partioner keeps crashing on me.... any advice?
[05:40] <jay> use safe graphic mode?
[05:40] <jay> tried that?
[05:40] <beo> no I hadnt
[05:40] <jay> what brand laptop are u using?
[05:41] <Graham> Dr_willis: What samba book?
[05:41] <beo> power pro, a clone of a sager
[05:42] <jay> try safe graphic mode
[05:42] <epimeth> how do I see what modules are loaded?
[05:42] <beo> ok thanks alot
[05:43] <c1|freaky> hi all. does anyone here know how to get the application tabs in kicker to look like this: http://everaldo.com/crystal/botton.html#
[05:43] <c1|freaky> crystal clear link
[05:43] <c1|freaky> screenshot
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find samba
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, xffm4-samba, python2.4-samba (and 6 others)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Graham,  the book 'using samba' is available for free its in the repositories.. its a a little out of date in some places.. but its still a good bookl
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !!info samba-doc
[05:45] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 6739 kB, installed size 14452 kB
[05:45] <BluesKaj> Graham, samba works quite well ...learning the nomenclature (what the terms mean, is the difficulty i had ) .
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I think 'samba' doc is what im refering to.. lets see
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm i think they may of changed some things..
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-ByExample
[05:49] <Dr_willis> I know i saw the book in the repos once.. perhaps it got removed.. or it was from some unofficial repo
[05:49] <Dr_willis> http://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/toc.html       - is an online version
[05:50] <Dr_willis> http://www.linux-books.us/linux_general_0015.php has it for download in pdf format.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> http://www.linux-books.us/linux_general.php  has a lot of neat books ya can download.. cool.
[05:52] <soulrider> hi, does anyone here use screen?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> AHA...  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba       samba-doc includes both books
[05:52] <soulrider> i cant figure out how to switch in between consoles
[05:52] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  run 'screen' :)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> man screen ?
[05:52] <soulrider> i tried
[05:52] <Dr_willis> i forget the key combo.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> ctrl-a n  perhaps.
[05:53] <soulrider> but i couldnt really understand what the combo was
[05:53] <soulrider> C- means ctrl ?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Yes.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> thats common abbrevation in most docs. :P
[05:54] <soulrider> ah, i didnt know
[05:55] <Dr_willis> also ^C means Ctrl-C
[05:55] <soulrider> i think i got some trouble witht he bindings and irssi
[05:56] <Dr_willis> thats possible. also ive noticed with irssi, that if its running in a terminal/xterm  the key bondings can get messed up. compared to with runnin git in a real Console.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ages ago i was running irssi inside a 'twin' terminal. that fixed a few issues.. but ya got so many things wanting the key bindings - it can get to be confusing
[05:57] <soulrider> Dr_willis: yeah
[05:57] <soulrider> Dr_willis: i wanted tos tart using console apps a bit more
[05:57] <jan__> every time i want to add a printer the window freezes .-.
[05:58] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[05:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:00] <soulrider> Dr_willis: im starting to hate beryl, sometimes when i got back to KDE it freezes and i cant even come back to a console
[06:01] <c1|freaky> can someone tell me how i can make additional icons (like special icons for specific applications) available in the "choose icon" section when configuring a kicker item?
[06:01] <Dr_willis>  soulrider  now you knwo why i never use it..and dont reccomdne beryl
[06:02] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  i always just make a icons dir in the users home dir. then use 'use other/browse -> icons'
[06:02] <Dr_willis> The System Icons some how come from the Icon Themes I belive..
[06:03] <c1|freaky> Dr_willis: ok, what should the directory be called? (path)
[06:03] <soulrider> i havnt seen hawkwind in a while...
[06:03] <ForgeAus> kfm isn't the first user-friendly VM for linux.... Vmware was before it and its mostly user friendly...
[06:03] <Dr_willis>  c1|freaky  i make an icons dir in the users home dir. so it would be /home/yourusername/icons
[06:03] <arunkale> where's lupine?
[06:03] <ForgeAus> (ok so mounting disks is a pain curently but when fuse gets sorted out for it)
[06:03] <epimeth> but it aint free... and speaking of which, can someone help me set up kvm?
[06:03] <c1|freaky> Dr_willis: and how can u access them?
[06:04] <ForgeAus> seems mostly like a fronte end for qemu
[06:04] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  if you want to add icons to the 'other' icons dir it seems to be read from  /usr/share/pixmaps/   - wich i discovered by searching  with  'locate apple-green'
[06:04] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  like i said.. i use 'select other, browser, and it then looks in the users home dir.. wher i select the icons dir'
[06:05] <ForgeAus> KVM isn't for edgy :(
[06:05] <c1|freaky> oh ok - how do i edit a icon?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> icons can be of several file formats
[06:05] <Dr_willis> use an image editor. or theres some specirfic icon editor programs out
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !find iconedit
[06:05] <ForgeAus> mostly .svg or .xpm right?
[06:05] <epimeth> ForgeAus: I'm on feisty...
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: gnome-iconedit, kiconedit
[06:06] <ForgeAus> epi I'm on edgy ...
[06:06] <Dr_willis> i got some icons in .png also
[06:06] <c1|freaky> sorry i mean, the application i add to kicker - how can i edit that ... entry ... (where i can also select which icon i want to be displayed)
[06:06] <ForgeAus> oh yeah that one too
[06:06] <Dr_willis>   /usr/share/pixmaps/apple-green.png    - those are all in png
[06:06] <c1|freaky> rightclick doesnt show "configure" or smth.
[06:06] <c1|freaky> Dr_willis: i dont have any apple-green.png on my system
[06:06] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  fire up the package manager and search for icons and install some more then.
[06:07] <yaccin> there is no herd 5 DVD iso?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Ive collceted a HUGE collection of misc icons. :)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> yaccin,  given how fast herd is gettin gupdated - a dvd would be out of date by the time you download it.
[06:07] <c1|freaky> Dr_willis: i have a .tar.gz with the icons in different sizes now i want to add them to the available icons
[06:07] <yaccin> Dr_willis: as outdatet as the CD iso... o.O
[06:08] <Dr_willis> c1|freaky,  no idea there.. if they are actual KDE ICON themes.. ya may be able to put them simewhere.. but its proberly best tokeep them all in a users icon dir.
[06:08] <c1|freaky> i started with feisty herd 4 and am just using apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:09] <yaccin> c1|freaky: in systemseettings  theres an install button for icons
[06:10] <ForgeAus> linux needs to strt looking into something to compress icons and keyboard/language drivers and data, etc.....
[06:10] <c1|freaky> that's just for full iconsets i dont have an iconset i only have firefox and thunderbird icons: http://www.carpicon.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=27
[06:10] <Dr_willis> every time i see someone say somthing tht starts with  "linux needs to ........"
[06:11] <Dr_willis> well..  i wont go on.. it may be considered rude.. :)
[06:11] <c1|freaky> ;D
[06:11] <ForgeAus> well theres some compressed file formats like jpg that are for pictures but xbm's for example aren't compressed already
[06:11] <ForgeAus> right?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> thers historcal reasons xpms are not compressed.
[06:11] <ForgeAus> they take up annoying space on HDD
[06:12] <Dr_willis> thats why png came about.
[06:12] <ForgeAus> wouldn't it be neater to tuck them away in a compressed, but handy place so KDE could just draw them out when it wants/needs them?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> then all the OLD apps that need xpm would have to be fixed to be able to handle them.. life is not all about 'kde' :)
[06:13] <ForgeAus> Dr willis good point
[06:13] <Dr_willis> i belive one feture of xpm was the data was very easy/fast to read for the programs.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> actually isent xpm actually a 'text' file?
[06:13] <ForgeAus> is it?
[06:13] <krzysiek> co to jest
[06:13] <ForgeAus> wierd
[06:13] <krzysiek> pierwszy raz tu jestem
[06:13] <krzysiek> Poland
[06:13] <krzysiek> ??
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Yep it is..
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> historcal stuff.
[06:14] <ForgeAus> xbm xpm one of them X-server PixMap? or X-server BitMap ?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> vi /usr/share/app-install/icons/Spider32x32.xpm
[06:14] <Dr_willis> and look you can actually 'see' the image in the text
[06:14] <krzysiek> czy ktos tu qrwa mowi po polsku
[06:14] <krzysiek> ??
[06:14] <Dr_willis> xbm = monocome i think
[06:14] <ForgeAus> hehe you can do that with bitmaps in windows in a way
[06:15] <ForgeAus> but bmp is pretty much a long forgotten format
[06:15] <bonbonthejon> how can I see what driver my wireless card is using
[06:15] <krzysiek> ej qrwa
[06:15] <krzysiek> co to qrwa jest
[06:15] <krzysiek> ??
[06:15] <Dr_willis> xbm = some sort of C structure/code it seems
[06:15] <ForgeAus> few things still use it that I know of
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ive seen perl scripts and others written to generate xpm/xbm on the fly for on the fly banners and so forth for web sites
[06:16] <ForgeAus> lol probably XML bookmark or something
[06:16] <Dr_willis> XML is for data/text/settings kinda stuff. :) heh - dont even get started on that..
[06:16] <ForgeAus> I know what XML is
[06:16] <Dr_willis> just be thankfull that .bin isent used all over. :)
[06:16] <ForgeAus> eXtensible Markup Language
[06:16] <ForgeAus> its part of the overal SGML specification
[06:16] <Dr_willis> then theres the menu-item-desktop stuff...
[06:17] <ForgeAus> (same as HTML is)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i forget what thats called.. xdg ?
[06:17] <ForgeAus> X dialog?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> then ya got the portable any map - tools.. (but we are rambling about now)
[06:18] <edtronic> hello
[06:18] <edtronic> i am using ubunto in need to  why i cant install compi
[06:18] <edtronic> z
[06:19] <Dr_willis> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards
[06:19] <ForgeAus> !compriz
[06:19] <bonbonthejon> !compiz | edtronic
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compriz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Dr_willis> freedesktop.org is gettting to have some very Positive effect on things.
[06:19] <edtronic> yes
[06:19] <ubotu> edtronic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:19] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:21] <edtronic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267&highligh%20t=xgl
[06:21] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[06:21] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:21] <edtronic> i did that but i get stuck in the part that askes me for the instalation of compiz
[06:23] <edtronic> any idea why?
[06:23] <bonbonthejon> edtronic: what is the error message?
[06:24] <CShadowRun> what do i need to extract a .lha file?
[06:24] <edtronic> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete compiz
[06:24] <edtronic> after
[06:24] <edtronic>  sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[06:24] <bonbonthejon> edtronic: can you translate
[06:25] <Lynoure> raway
[06:25] <Lynoure> oops, sorry.
[06:25] <edtronic> e: can not find compiz pakage
[06:26] <edtronic> have you seen that error
[06:26] <lontra> can anyone recommend a fully function pdf viewer for kde?  kpdf won't open my pdf file right and i've only had luck with acroread.  but now acroread isn't in the feisty repositories
[06:28] <krzysiek> Poland...??
[06:28] <krzysiek> pliosssss eay
[06:28] <krzysiek> seay
[06:32] <SpudDogg> How do I disable the sound theme?  Every time I open or close a program I get a sound...It's getting annoying :)
[06:32] <edtronic> E: CAN NOT FIND COMPIZ PAKAGE I GET THAT MESSAGE AFTER I TYPE THIS COMMAND
[06:33] <edtronic> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[06:33] <bonbonthejon> lontra: xpdf
[06:33] <bonbonthejon> edtronic: I haven't used compiz, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> SpudDogg: that's not default to have sounds for every program opening. Go into system settings->notifications
[06:34] <draik> How do I run or install a *.bin file?
[06:34] <draik> !bin
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <edtronic> thaks
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> draik: chmod +x [filename]  && ./[filename] 
[06:35] <rbrunhuber> draik: normally chmod +x *.bin
[06:35] <rbrunhuber> ./*.bin
[06:35] <draik> Thank you both
[06:36] <renato> hi, is there anybody familiar with PHP here?
[06:36] <bonbonthejon> renato: somewhat
[06:36] <renato> I have a simple problem I have several php.ini files and I am not sure which one is used
[06:36] <ForgeAus> renalto there's probably a #PHP
[06:36] <renato> (I know nothing of php)
[06:36] <renato> I have an /etc/php/cli
[06:37] <bonbonthejon> renato: ask in #php, they would know
[06:37] <ForgeAus> actually looks like its ##php
[06:37] <renato> and anpther one into /etc/php/apache2
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> renato: it depends on what you are using it for, if you are talking about using one in the apache php mod then it's the one in the apache dir.
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> renato: if you run php from the command line then it will check the ini file in the cli dir.
[06:38] <renato> I am trying to install vtigercrm and it tells me to verifying some parameters in php.ini and I was ashtonished to find out there is more than one
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> renato: is vtigercrm a web application that is served by apache? if so then the one in the apache2 dir is the one you need to modify.
[06:39] <renato> LeeJunFan, would an application you launch from the webserver look at the one into /etc/php/apache2 instead?
[06:39] <renato> LeeJunFan cool thanks
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> yes, that's correct.
[06:40] <SpudDogg> LeeJunFan, When I installed Kubuntu, the screen asking me how fast my processor is came up and I set "Eye Candy" to the highest level.  In the box of things that includes was a sound theme.  I cannot find anywhere in System Settings how to change or disable that sound theme.
[06:40] <renato> I have a little problem more, I am asked to  make sure I have writing priviledge on it, the question is, what user would be used if I have to install it from a web server? would it be www-data?
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> renato: yes
[06:40] <TheVault> Hello guys, I have a quick question. What font & Font size do you guys use in Firefox? I notice that some pages looks alright while other very small
[06:41] <TheVault> Whats a good font/size combination I could use to make the pages look easy to read and just the right size
[06:41] <renato> ok, tx
[06:42] <TheVault> Anybody????
[06:42] <renato> bonbonthejon, I tried #php but my irc client (#conversation) goes bananas if I ask it to connect to #php
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> SpudDogg: when you go to system notifications it shows different events that have sounds, etc.. perhaps if you hit the default buttons at the bottom left corner of that screen it will set your sounds to normal. If not you may have to turn them off one by one.
[06:42] <jak_> hi all
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> SpudDogg: there really isn't a "theme" for sound notifications unfortunately.
[06:43] <TheVault> howdy jak
[06:43] <TheVault> jak: got a question for you, what font & size do you use in firefox?
[06:43] <bonbonthejon> !wfi
[06:43] <bonbonthejon> !wifi
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wfi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:43] <SpudDogg> LeeJunFan, Ok.  I hit the defaults button (which made some sounds) and it did not change.  I guess if this really bothers me I'll just reinstall
[06:43] <LeeJunFan> SpudDogg: you may need to chose "The KDE Window Manager" from event source at the top.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I just use the default fonts in firefox.. not ntocied any pages looking funny
[06:44] <LeeJunFan> SpudDogg: you'll find the annoying culprits under the KDE window manager, you can turn off the events there for "New Window" and "Delete Window", etc...
[06:44] <TheVault> Dr_Willis: So your saying the links on Firefox look just fine?
[06:45] <TheVault> I mean on Google
[06:45] <Dr_willis> TheVault,  let me check.. but ive never notice them odd..
[06:45] <TheVault> The links on Google are hardly readable
[06:45] <SpudDogg> LeeJunFan, When I selected "KDE Window Manager" I found the settings.  That was it.  Thank you man
[06:45] <TheVault> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> they look fine for me..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i guess i could post a screen shot somewhere.
[06:45] <TheVault> Could ya
[06:45] <Huey> is there a way to "undo close tab" in konqueror?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> but not sure of where to put them
[06:45] <TheVault> http://imageshack.us is a good place to upload
[06:46] <TheVault> your pictures to
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> Huey: I don't think so. If there is I'd like to know as well.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1rg5.png
[06:48] <Kennie> this may be a really stupid request, but whats the command to capture the current screen?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Kennie,  hit the printscreen key
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <TheVault> Dr_willis: Take a screenshot of your font settings in firefox please
[06:49] <Kennie> Dr_willis : where does it saves them? or do I need to paste it in GIMP orso
[06:49] <Dr_willis> it asks where to save them to
[06:49] <Dr_willis> it dosent just copy to the clopboard like lame windows does
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> Kennie: it should open ksnapshot
[06:49] <TheVault> Dr_willis: Can you take another screenshot of your font settings in firefox please?
[06:50] <TheVault> Yours is perfect
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> Kennie: althought it doesn't work here cuz I've mesed with my shortcuts for beryl - you can also just run ksnapshot from the K menu, under graphics.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> TheVault,  heck -i dont even know where they are at. :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> lol.
[06:50] <TheVault> Dr_willis: go to
[06:51] <TheVault> Dr_willis: Edit >Preferences > Content
[06:51] <TheVault> under Firefox
[06:51] <TheVault> Then you should see something about font, tell me what font you have and the size your using
[06:51] <Dr_willis> heh my 'default font' is blank. size 18
[06:51] <Dr_willis> so figure that out. :)
[06:51] <TheVault> Clicked advanced
[06:51] <TheVault> *click advanced, tell me whats in there?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Serif, serif, sans-serif, monospace.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> sizes 18 and 12
[06:52] <ComputerHermit> wahoooo hooo hoo for the longest time
[06:52] <TheVault> Alrighty, Thank you
[06:52] <Dr_willis>  and i have 'allow pages to chose their own fonts' checked
[06:52] <TheVault> oh
[06:52] <TheVault> maybe thats what i need to enable
[06:53] <ComputerHermit> I will help you
[06:53] <TheVault> Dr_willis: Thank you, I just fixed my problem :D
[06:53] <TheVault> Dr_willis: Thanks
[06:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:58] <ghetek> how do i add my remote ssh account password when using sshfs?
[06:59] <The_Untiled> cerco aiuto....
[06:59] <The_Untiled> qualcuno pu??
[07:00] <Henning3> hi, is it possible to use a WPA2 WLAN with Kubuntu?
[07:00] <ghetek> Henning3: yeha you nead to use kwlan
[07:00] <The_Untiled> ok..is in english..
[07:00] <The_Untiled> anyone can help me??
[07:00] <ghetek> Henning3: just sudo apt-get install kwlan
[07:01] <ghetek> The_Untiled: yeah whats up?
[07:01] <Henning3> I've already Knetworkmanager
[07:01] <Henning3> but it can't connect to the access point
[07:01] <The_Untiled> in my kubuntu there isn't the down panel
[07:01] <ghetek> !kwlan | Henning3
[07:01] <ubotu> henning3: kwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 143 kB, installed size 580 kB
[07:01] <Henning3> ok, I'll try ... thank you
[07:01] <ghetek> np
[07:02] <ghetek> The_Untiled: actually im sorry i donjt know that one, stick around and im sure someone will help
[07:02] <epimeth> ahoy peeps!
[07:02] <ComputerHermit> KKKKEEEEE
[07:03] <ComputerHermit> Iam a sea dog myself
[07:03] <epimeth> yarg!
[07:03] <epimeth> thar be but one pirate on this here ship!
[07:03] <ComputerHermit> I got a surfboard
[07:03] <ComputerHermit> no ship
[07:03] <epimeth> walk the plank, says I!
[07:04] <ComputerHermit> ye will fight over yee ocean
[07:04] <ghetek> *sir
[07:04] <epimeth> shouldn't it be "yonder ocean"?
[07:04] <ghetek> you guys hear that researchers have found some of blackbeards ship?
[07:05] <ComputerHermit> yes and that is in my hood
[07:05] <epimeth> well they won't find the treasure!  I hid it in a safe place
[07:05] <ComputerHermit> he used to come here all the time
[07:05] <Blackbeard> slander! slander I say!
[07:05] <ghetek> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/03/blackbeard.ap/index.html
[07:05] <pearly> kopete does 'forget' (ignore) my IRC passwords in kwallet. Tried several things already.
[07:05] <pearly> Anybody any ideas what's up?
[07:06] <epimeth> irc passwords?
[07:06] <epimeth> why you using kopete for irc?
[07:07] <lontra> man acroread is a big fat pig...100 mb w/ plugins ... blah
[07:07] <epimeth> I didn't even know it *had* an irc client...
[07:07] <lontra> !plf
[07:07] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[07:08] <epimeth> pearly: why don't you use konversation?  I'm sure its better
[07:08] <lontra> !medibuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:08] <me2win> !firefox
[07:08] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:08] <pearly> epimeth:registered nick account passwords. And why not? But maybe going back to konversation is an option.
[07:09] <lontra> is medibuntu safe?
[07:09] <pearly> Still I'd like to know if kopete has a bug there or a feature
[07:09] <BluesKaj> Konversation is very flexible. I like the options, however the lack odf a default server list is annoying . Otherwise it rocks !
[07:10] <The_Untiled> in my kubuntu there isn't the panel with k menu and the clock
[07:11] <epimeth> pearly: you can set up profiles that automatically connect with nick passwords...
[07:11] <epimeth> I do...
[07:12] <marc_> I really need to know WHAT I need to change that my graphical-login screen will occur after reboot. I tried so many things...but nothing worked properly :(
[07:12] <BluesKaj> yes, especially if one uses different pwds on diff servers etc
[07:12] <purpleposeidon> How do I reset kicker to the defaults?
[07:13] <marc_> Just immediately after bootup (when the splashscreen is gone), I need to hit ctrl+alt+F7 to get a graphical login screen. If I dont do it...I need to reebot to get one.
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> marc_: if all you need to do is hit ctrl-alt-f7 then your graphical screen is starting, it's just not switching to it.
[07:14] <epimeth> does anyone have kvm set up?
[07:14] <pearly> epimeth: got it working with konversation, wanted to have the same with kopete, just to give it a try. It remebers server/nick/everything, but does not provide the password for my nick. thanks anyway, I'll search a bit further.
[07:14] <epimeth> on feisty
[07:14] <epimeth> pearly: no worries.. sorry I couldn't be more useful
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> marc_: I would guess it's a problem with the splash screen/framebuffer.
[07:16] <marc_> LeeJunFan: No its more strange. If I dont hit ctrl+alt+F7 early enough...it doesnt comes up :(
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> !framebuffer | marc_
[07:16] <ubotu> marc_: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:16] <marc_> Ahh
[07:16] <marc_> thx... for FrameBuffer hint... Im going to check it out... ubotu LeeJunFan
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> marc_: ah, I'd still blame framebuffer, it's always the cause of any graphics problem I have :) And also breaks suspend to ram on my laptops.
[07:17] <marc_> afk...
[07:19] <The_Untiled> bye to all!!
[07:19] <epimeth> adios
[07:19] <_6StringKng_> anyway you can replace grub with lilo?
[07:20] <epimeth> _6StringKng_: yes... but why?
[07:20] <_6StringKng_> because grub is ugly, lol
[07:20] <_6StringKng_> and I liked lilo when i used Mandriva
[07:20] <Graham> Hey, quick question, you know how mounted devices and stuff appear on the desktop? Is there a way to stop that happening?
[07:20] <epimeth> you see it, what, once a week?  at most?  I know I don't sit by the comp as I wait for it to load...
[07:21] <epimeth> also, I'm pretty sure there's a graphical grub as well...
[07:21] <epimeth> !gub
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <epimeth> !grub
[07:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:22] <The_Untiled> how to reappear the down panel?
[07:29] <epimeth> what is the image pastebin address?
[07:29] <marc_> LeeJunFan Im going to check out if it could be the Framebuffer
[07:30] <marc_> cu
[07:30] <igorjr> hi
[07:31] <igorjr> this is probably a stupid question...anyhow
[07:31] <igorjr> cause i'm new to linux i'm wondering wether i have to use a antivirus software or not
[07:31] <intelikey> no
[07:31] <igorjr> i recently switched to it from windows
[07:31] <Skrot> no, you dont :)
[07:31] <epimeth> igorjr: no
[07:31] <epimeth> but you can if you *really* wanted to
[07:32] <igorjr> it's probably a very secure system?
[07:32] <intelikey> !virus
[07:32] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:32] <epimeth> more secure than windows
[07:32] <seb|afk> where is firefox cache directory? (ubuntu)
[07:32] <igorjr> thank you, that's what i wanted to know
[07:32] <epimeth> so whats the imagebin site?
[07:32] <Huey> does bochs give the same level of performance as something like vmware?
[07:33] <intelikey> huey no
[07:33] <The_Untiled> is possible to use th LiLo??
[07:33] <Schuenemann> !screensaver
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <intelikey> The_Untiled yes
[07:34] <SolidSource> imageshack.us for image pastebin needs
[07:34] <The_Untiled> how?
[07:34] <epimeth> !lilo | The_Untiled
[07:34] <intelikey> The_Untiled install it.
[07:34] <Schuenemann> where can I find more screensavers?
[07:34] <Schuenemann> and remove the default ones
[07:34] <intelikey> The_Untiled configure /etc/lilo.conf
[07:34] <intelikey> The_Untiled and run lilo
[07:35] <intelikey> easy as 1 2 3.
[07:35] <The_Untiled> ok
[07:35] <The_Untiled> i try
[07:35] <The_Untiled> i install lilo by synaptic?
[07:35] <intelikey> yes
[07:35] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: kde-look.org you can get new ones, theres a few methods of removing and adding them
[07:35] <Schuenemann> methods?
[07:36] <ComputerHermit> Iam going to have to get a new soundcard or Iam going to suse
[07:36] <ComputerHermit> lol
[07:36] <ComputerHermit> any ideas
[07:36] <intelikey> ComputerHermit go to suse
[07:37] <SolidSource> !pastebinit
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <intelikey> hey linux is linux   use what ever works for you.
[07:37] <The_Untiled> i've installed lilo, lilo-config and lilo-doc..it's ok??
[07:37] <ComputerHermit> yes it is
[07:37] <Schuenemann> SolidSource, how to add/remove ?
[07:37] <ComputerHermit> and my sound card is not supported
[07:37] <aliveuser> hi, i'm having a cd/dvd problem. my cd/dvd is recognized, but whenever i enter a cd the system does nothing
[07:37] <ComputerHermit> but Iam wateing for my IBM think[pad
[07:38] <intelikey> The_Untiled it would be a good idea to read lilo-doc  before you try to setup lilo.conf     no?
[07:38] <ComputerHermit> so I will keep useing bolth on a dule boot or two pc's
[07:38] <ComputerHermit> KKKKEEEEEEE
[07:38] <ComputerHermit> :-)
[07:38] <ComputerHermit> ubuntu isent bad
[07:38] <ComputerHermit> k
[07:39] <The_Untiled> i've to open /etc/lilo.conf wint kedit in root permiss??
[07:39] <ComputerHermit> very stable
[07:39] <ComputerHermit> on my end
[07:39] <intelikey> The_Untiled yes.    kdesu kate /etc/lilo.conf
[07:39] <ComputerHermit> but I like paper towels and stuff so
[07:39] <intelikey> or kedit if you prefer
[07:40] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: http://pastebin.sk/en/956/
[07:40] <epimeth> intelikey: what about emacs, damnit!  best editor ever :-p
[07:40] <intelikey> ComputerHermit paper towels   heh.
[07:40] <ComputerHermit> lol trust me its a joke
[07:40] <shulman> Good morning -- does anyone know anything about setting up a software RAID on install in Edgy Eft? I'm having some trouble finding a reliable tutorial on it.
[07:40] <intelikey> epimeth blasphemy.  vim.
[07:41] <The_Untiled> but there isn't /etc/lilo.conf file...my kubuntu don't retrieve it...
[07:41] <Schuenemann> SolidSource, wow, that sucks
[07:41] <epimeth> vim??? VIM???? away from my presence, blashphemer!!!
[07:41] <theshadow> How can I tell how much hard drive space I have available?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> 'df -h'
[07:42] <Dr_willis> is what i use
[07:42] <epimeth> theshadow: df -h
[07:42] <epimeth> heh
[07:42] <epimeth> too late
[07:42] <epimeth> :-(
[07:42] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: thats because if a virus or malware is going to get into linux, thats probably one of the most likely ways
[07:42] <Dr_willis> i imagine emacs has some extension for it. :)
[07:42] <epimeth> Doc!  give us newbies a chance to show off as well :-p
[07:42] <theshadow> thanks
[07:42] <intelikey> The_Untiled you can find examples in   /usr/share/doc/lilo-doc/examples/sample/*
[07:43] <Dr_willis> I saw a  site today with downloadable books.. :)
[07:43] <Schuenemann> SolidSource, there could be an easier way
[07:43] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: yeah, thats just one way...some even come in DEB files
[07:43] <Schuenemann> I got one in a .deb
[07:43] <Dr_willis> but i lost the url..
[07:43] <Schuenemann> I thought it would automatically solve broken dependencies... but it doesn't
[07:44] <epimeth> intelikey: how can you use a text editor that requires you to push a key before you can actually do any text editing???
[07:44] <intelikey> The_Untiled be advised, lilo is not as 'automatic' as grub. but it is more powerful.
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[07:44] <Schuenemann> ?
[07:44] <hvarma> hello
[07:44] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: no it doesn't solve dependencies...you have to do that manually
[07:44] <epimeth> ahoy hvarma
[07:44] <hvarma> I am looking for some assistance regarding Code::Blocks and Qt4
[07:44] <Schuenemann> SolidSource, you recommend any nice screenshot?
[07:45] <Schuenemann> screensaver*
[07:45] <intelikey> epimeth ?     you leave things with the default configuration ?       what kind of *nix'R are you anyway ?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> http://www.linux-books.us/linux_general.php
[07:45] <Dr_willis> Bash Guide for Beginners
[07:45] <epimeth> intelikey: a lazy one
[07:45] <epimeth> :-p
[07:45] <intelikey> lol
[07:45] <ComputerHermit> e 2 why are we lazy users?
[07:45] <hvarma> anyone here know of a good IDE w/ code completion?
[07:45] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: no, I just use the OpenGL ones....which the screensave system never seems to activate anyways
[07:46] <Schuenemann> heheh
[07:46] <igorjr> is there a list of kubuntu-relevant commands available?
[07:46] <Schuenemann> the ones that come with kubuntu suck
[07:46] <micah> hvarma: kdevelop
[07:46] <epimeth> ComputerHermit: I was saying "I'm* a lazy nixer
[07:46] <Schuenemann> suse had better ones, like BSOD :)
[07:46] <hvarma> i tried using kdevelop but wasn't very happy with it
[07:46] <epimeth> intelikey: and in my defence, I totally turned on bash colors and the ls aliases
[07:46] <micah> hvarma: netbeans/eclipse for java
[07:46] <Schuenemann> hvarma, have you tried eclipse?
[07:46] <intelikey> imo default configurations are only a basic starting point for how the system is installed.  it's up to the user to finish the job of setting things up.
[07:46] <hvarma> yeah, but not for c++
[07:46] <intelikey> brb
[07:47] <hvarma> i need something excellent like MSVS for c++
[07:47] <oem> hello
[07:47] <Schuenemann> MSVS sucks
[07:47] <epimeth> hello oem
[07:47] <hvarma> but it's intellisense is amazing
[07:47] <Schuenemann> strong acoplation
[07:47] <epimeth> still haven't ran oem-config-firstboot, I see :-)
[07:47] <micah> hvarma: try out netbeans, they've got great visual tools for java, it could possibly carry over to their c++ dev side too
[07:47] <oem> i used echo to add a line to the fstab, what is the command to remove it?
[07:48] <SolidSource> Schuenemann: I've used SuSE and seen that screensaver...I prefer Euphoria which is on here over any screensavers I've seen
[07:48] <oem> micah i foget all about that
[07:48] <Schuenemann> SolidSource, I'll look for it
[07:48] <oem> what does it do
[07:48] <hvarma> i need an all around IDE, not just one for JAVA
[07:48] <Dr_willis> emacs! :)
[07:49] <Schuenemann> hvarma, eclipse has lots of plugins for lots of languages
[07:49] <hvarma> which is why I looked into Code::Blocks
[07:49] <micah> schuenemann: true
[07:49] <Dr_willis> oem,  use a text editor and remove the line
[07:49] <oem> emacs thanks
[07:49] <hvarma> yes, but does eclipse have code completion/intellisense
[07:49] <SolidSource> anyone use Pastbinit? its coming default in feisty, but you can install it in edgy, allows easier pastebin access
[07:49] <Dr_willis> or kedit/kate/gedit/vi/mcedit/fte/
[07:49] <Dr_willis> nano, pico,
[07:49] <oem> i dont have permissions, i think i can do it with emacs though
[07:49] <micah> hvarma: you could always use trusty vim
[07:49] <Dr_willis> oem,  thats because you need to do it as root..
[07:49] <hvarma> haha
[07:49] <oem> well duh
[07:49] <bonbonthejon> how can i copy a folder to another folder
[07:49] <oem> hahaha
[07:49] <hvarma> true, IDEs are more fun
[07:49] <epimeth> oem: Dr_willis... have I told you lately that I love you?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  tell that to my wife..
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:50] <epimeth> that hussy!
[07:50] <Dr_willis> NOW go cook me some supper!
[07:50] <Dr_willis> and find this cable im looking for!
[07:50] <hvarma> The weird part is that I have installed the SVN nightly build for C::B but when i go to make a Qt4 app, it says QtCore4 cannot be found (the file's name is QtCore)
[07:51] <The_Untiled> I've a big problem!!I haven't the panel with k menu and clock
[07:51] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, linux kernel in a nutshell: http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
[07:51] <juanga> hola hay alguien que hable espaol
[07:51] <Schuenemann> !es | juanga
[07:51] <ubotu> juanga: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:51] <hvarma> hablo un poco de espanol, tambien
[07:51] <Schuenemann> right... me 2
[07:52] <hvarma> lol
[07:52] <epimeth> Schuenemann: nice... cheers!
[07:52] <juanga> necesito una ayuda con amarok no puedo reproducir mp3 hace poco que instale ubuntu
[07:52] <ninHer> yo tambien pero es buen consejo el que te han dado
[07:52] <rob-west> whats the difference in the Kubuntu CD and the Kubuntu DVD
[07:52] <ninHer> obtendras mas ayuda, a no ser que se te de bien el ingles
[07:52] <Schuenemann> go to that channel
[07:52] <hvarma> there's like five cds you need to have compared to one dvd
[07:52] <Schuenemann> rob-west, as I know, the DVD has a lot of packages
[07:53] <Schuenemann> which I don't know if it's worth, since packages quickly get outdated
[07:53] <juanga> ok gracias no domino muy bien el ingles bastante basico
[07:53] <eddy> hi everyone
[07:53] <hvarma> i've had a big question in my mind for the past week
[07:53] <ComputerHermit> vista is revolutionary and changed my digital lifestyle....lol
[07:54] <eddy> Vista is a SHIT
[07:54] <hvarma> why're the ubuntu repos so flimsy
[07:54] <Schuenemann> vista = Virus Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware
[07:54] <eddy> :D
[07:54] <ComputerHermit> lmfao
[07:54] <Schuenemann> :D
[07:54] <Schuenemann> what happened to that windows longhorn?
[07:54] <provolik> someone can tell me a good ftp client for kubuntu?
[07:54] <eddy> longhorn = vista
[07:54] <Schuenemann> provolik, kftpgrabber
[07:54] <hvarma> longhorn = server version of vista
[07:54] <Schuenemann> eddy, hmm... they changed the name?
[07:55] <Schuenemann> hmm, right
[07:55] <epimeth> Schuenemann: longhorn was the codename
[07:55] <provolik> thanks Schuenemann
[07:55] <eddy> longhorn was only a code name, but Vista is the official name
[07:55] <hvarma> alright, I have to go for a bit
[07:55] <eddy> a bit?
[07:55] <Schuenemann> maybe longhorn didn't make a nice acronym
 why're the ubuntu repos so flimsy <<<  explain ?
[07:55] <eddy> and you're gonna be here for the rest?
[07:55] <epimeth> don't let the door hit you on the way out!
[07:55] <eddy> :D
[07:56] <hvarma> if any of you can please answer my questions about the ide problem, please email to: vegittoss15@gmail.com
[07:56] <Schuenemann> "vista" was more meaninful
[07:56] <Schuenemann> meaningful*
[07:56] <Dr_willis> New Windows "CornHole"
[07:56] <Schuenemann> hehe
[07:56] <Dr_willis> it more accurate
[07:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:56] <eddy> hey people, I have  problem with my KMAil
[07:56] <ComputerHermit> they had to have know it was going to be shit befor they put it out with a nice healthy price tag on it
[07:57] <hvarma> intelikey, they aren't updated enough, and some of the things i look for cannot be found on tehre
[07:57] <Schuenemann> haha
[07:57] <hvarma> bbl
[07:57] <bonbonthejon> eddy:  what is the problem
[07:58] <epimeth> ComputerHermit: don't knock it till you try it, man... I must say that the UI is quite impressive as far as the 'windows experience' goes
[07:58] <intelikey> repos "they aren't updated enough"  heh  some people wish for fire to jump into...   some are content to not burn.
[07:58] <epimeth> I wonder if he added universe and multiverse?
[07:58] <eddy> I was creating a new contact in KMail, but when I was typing the e-mail address, I changed the Input Method to "scim", then it crashed and I cannot open it again
[07:59] <epimeth> we can tell him to move to fiesty... daily updates here :-)
[07:59] <intelikey> epimeth probably no.  his complaint shows little knowledge of how the repos work.
[07:59] <ComputerHermit> hey meth guy I will never try it
[07:59] <epimeth> eddy: press crtl+shift+esc
[07:59] <epimeth> check if KMail appears in the list
[07:59] <ComputerHermit> epi
[07:59] <epimeth> if so, kill it
[07:59] <Schuenemann> it's just ctrl + esc
[08:00] <epimeth> oh... lol
[08:00] <j_> How is Feisty? Worth upgrading from Edgy?
[08:00] <epimeth> I just assumed :-)
[08:00] <epimeth> j_: yes... if you like programs that don't work every day
[08:00] <j_> Hah
[08:00] <intelikey> j_ not released yet.
[08:00] <j_> I'll wait it out then..
[08:00] <cathal> does anyone know how to tell me system to always connect to my wireless router when it disconnects or goes down, as it often trys to connect to my neighbours wireless instead.
[08:00] <eddy> epimeth: just in the desktop shall I press the combination?
[08:00] <Schuenemann> feisty isn't final yet
[08:00] <j_> Just in beta
[08:00] <j_> Goootcha
[08:00] <epimeth> I was enjoying my KNetWalk and today it started crashing whenever I beat the game.  so I just stopped beating it :-)
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. trying to compile somthing.. gettting a     arapin.c:77:26: error: linux/ioport.h: No such file or directory
[08:00] <Dr_willis> 
[08:00] <Dr_willis> error..
[08:01] <epimeth> eddy: yes
[08:01] <emc> yes
[08:01] <eddy> epimeth: nothing happens
[08:01] <Dr_willis> where the heck is  that file supposed to come from. the actual 'kernel source' ?
[08:01] <emc> y a kelk1 qui comprends le francais ici ???
[08:01] <epimeth> eddy: hmm... maybe thats just feisty then... hold up a sec
[08:01] <BluesKaj> !fr
[08:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:01] <emc> fr
[08:01] <emc> fr
[08:01] <emc> ???
[08:01] <intelikey> Dr_willis looks like sub-dir in the make dir.
[08:01] <BluesKaj> !
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[08:02] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  yea.. odd...
[08:02] <intelikey> Dr_willis if so the makefile is hosed.
[08:02] <emc> help please lol
[08:02] <emc> HELP mdr
[08:02] <intelikey> !mbr
[08:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <Schuenemann> emc, /join #kubuntu-fr
[08:03] <eddy> I got it, epimeth
[08:03] <emc> salut tt le monde
[08:03] <epimeth> eddy: K Menu -> System -> KSysGuard
[08:03] <eddy> or CTRL + ESC
[08:03] <epimeth> eddy: heh... mine worked with shift :-)
[08:03] <intelikey> or top
[08:04] <intelikey> or just killall blah
[08:04] <Schuenemann> can anyone recommend a nice screensaver?
[08:05] <intelikey> you can renice any screensaver....    err but that's not what you mean is it
[08:05] <eddy> hey, it's working again...
[08:06] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  yea looking at the source now it has a simple     #include <linux/ioport.h>
[08:06] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  it could be more that the code is very OLD...
[08:06] <Dr_willis> it also mentions 'dmake'
[08:06] <epimeth> eddy: you're welcome :-p
[08:06] <intelikey> heh yeha
[08:07] <snake_> hi all
[08:07] <eddy> epimeth: well, in fact, KMail wasn't there, in the Process table
[08:07] <eddy> I didn't do anything, it's just working again, strange...
[08:07] <epimeth> eddy: I was kidding... hence the ":-p"
[08:08] <snake_> i installed xglx.i am using kubuntu and when i login i get the desktop like a windows with minimize and close button
[08:08] <intelikey> killall blah
[08:08] <snake_> how can i resolve this
[08:08] <intelikey> kill more apps.  use killall
[08:09] <intelikey> snake what is running ?
[08:09] <snake_> hi intelikey
[08:09] <snake_> i have a problem when i login
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> snake_: are you *the* snake_ ?
[08:09] <emc> is there girls here ???
[08:09] <intelikey> i read that already snake_
[08:09] <snake_> in kubuntu
[08:09] <snake_> i installed xglx and i get the desktop
[08:10] <snake_> like a window
[08:10] <snake_> with minimize and close button
[08:10] <intelikey> is snake_  a new spam bot ?
[08:10] <SolidSource> easy...uninstall xglx
[08:10] <seb|afk> where is firefox cache?
[08:10] <snake_> but does beryl depends on it
[08:10] <snake_> ??
[08:10] <snake_> because i have beryl installed
[08:10] <intelikey> seb|afk ~/.mozilla*
[08:11] <intelikey> !beryl | snake
[08:11] <ubotu> snake: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:11] <emc> where is girls !!!
[08:11] <emc> lol
[08:11] <intelikey> !xchicks
[08:11] <emc> please i ve got a probleme with Beryl
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchicks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <emc> he does want to work
[08:12] <intelikey> take him to #ubuntu-effects
[08:12] <intelikey> see ubotu above  ^
[08:12] <bonbonthejon> how can i copy a folder to another folder, updating an existing folder in the destination
[08:12] <Lam_> are there shortcut keys you can hit much like the alt+numbers in Windows to type odd characters like accented letters?
[08:13] <intelikey> bonbonthejon mc does that very nicely
[08:13] <intelikey> bonbonthejon cp can do it.  man cp
[08:13] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: mc? I'm trying to write a bash script
[08:13] <intelikey> !info mc
[08:13] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[08:13] <bonbonthejon> oh
[08:14] <intelikey> improved linux port of nortons  nc
[08:14] <eddy> oh man, it will be a long time until I can fully control Linux
[08:15] <eddy> how can I write that @?
[08:15] <intelikey> Lam_ you can setup hot keys.
[08:15] <Skuller> hey guys...would someone please tell me where do all the packages that i download/install from adept get downloaded and installed on the hard drive?....and whether the downloaded files are deleted after installation or not?
[08:15] <eddy> Iexcept that on the keyboard
[08:15] <Lam_> intelikey: i suppose that's my only option? thanks
[08:16] <intelikey> Lam_ i don't know that it's the only option  but it would work.
[08:16] <leos> je tady njak ech
[08:16] <Lam_> ok then
[08:16] <Schuenemann> !cz
[08:16] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[08:16] <eddy> j...
[08:16] <oem> helloo all
[08:16] <Lam_> Skuller: i don't know where exactly packages are downloaded to, but they aren't deleted after installation. you can run $ sudo apt-get clean  to delete them
[08:17] <oem> i need some hlp getting to my D drive
[08:17] <sampan> skuller  the .deb packages get put in /var/cache/apt/archives/  iirc --- and no they're not deleted automatically after installation.  the files within the .deb packages get installed all over your filesystem (each package is different)
[08:17] <intelikey> Lam_ they are in /var/cache/apt/archives/   ffr
[08:17] <recon31> hello everyone
[08:17] <eddy> leosi, bez tam na #ubuntu-cz
[08:17] <Skuller> Lam_: oh...that is alright.....but i wan concerned about hard drive space....so i wanted to know wich partition do the packages get installed in
[08:17] <oem> it is formattted in NTFS i had it yesterday but i broke Kubuntu and had to reinstall the OS
[08:18] <recon31> I have a problem with permissions can someone help
[08:18] <Skuller> sampan: ok thanks....can u tell me in which partition would that be?...the installations i mean....is it the root?
[08:18] <recon31> I need to give my dvd permission to use on mythtv
[08:18] <Lam_> Skuller: yeah. /var is typically on root if you installed using default mounts
[08:19] <adydas> heh broken OS reinstallations for the win..
[08:19] <adydas> i lost count..
[08:19] <Skuller> Lam_: /var has the cache files right?....if so i wanted to know which path or at least which partition do the packages get 'installed' in
[08:19] <oem> someone got aNY IDEAS?
[08:20] <Lam_> Skuller: yeah. /var/cache/apt/archives/ will reside on your root partition if you didn't change the mount points. /var will be under root
[08:20] <recon31> help me please
[08:20] <Dr_willis> Cool. i just found out this old amiga has a 300MB laptop hard drive! :0
[08:21] <Dr_willis> Now to figure out how to hook up the HD to the Linux box to transfer stuff over.
[08:21] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I'm using Kubuntu 6.10 and I have a problem with audacity: it doesn't show any text (screenshot: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2693/adacityym2.png ). I had the same problem also while installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, so I suppose it's a problem with libwxgtk - has anyone an idea on how I could fix it?
[08:21] <Skuller> Lam_: sorry i think i am misunderstanding but...i am concerned about the 'installation' of the packages....simply "where do my softwares take up space on my hdd?"...i do not refer to the downloaded files...but the installed fiels
[08:22] <Lam_> Skuller: ahh. that's mostly all over the place, usually under /usr
[08:22] <intelikey> oem ok lesson one.   there is not drive c:  drive d:  ect...  the disks are named according to bus and location on the bus.   i.e.  /dev/hda /dev/hdb  /dev/sda       the hd class is ide interface    the sd is scsi (also used by usb and sata)    the letter is the primary master (a)   mrimary slave (b)  secondary master (c)   and so on.   the partitions are a number appended to the disk name    hda1  first partition on the fir
[08:22] <Lam_> Skuller: the bulk of the installed files, if not all, will be located under /usr.  it depends on the program
[08:23] <Skuller> Lam_: oh..thanks for the info...thats what i was looking for....
[08:23] <oem> ok what i am needing to locate then is hdb1
[08:23] <intelikey> oem now ntfs is not natively supported in linux as read/write.  but there are apps to support writing.
[08:23] <intelikey> !ntfs | oem
[08:23] <ubotu> oem: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:24] <Lam_> bye
[08:24] <KiPSeRoN> somone if i want to set the gvim editor to my default editor what i need to do
[08:24] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[08:24] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | oem
[08:24] <ubotu> oem: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:24] <intelikey> !fuse | oem
[08:24] <ubotu> oem: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:24] <KiPSeRoN> !gvim
[08:24] <oem> yeah i figured that out yesterday that i could only read from the drive
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> KiPSeRoN: you can set default apps in system Setting
[08:25] <bonbonthejon> is there a way to have konsole open and run a command, then wait for the program to finish, then close
[08:25] <KiPSeRoN> Admiral_Chicago:
[08:25] <KiPSeRoN> i cant set that
[08:25] <KiPSeRoN> i need another way
[08:26] <intelikey> oem if you want to add a line in /etc/fstab  to make the partition always readable    add this.    /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,umask,000 0 0    save that and you will always be able to browse there.
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> why can't you set it that way?
[08:27] <KiPSeRoN> becouse
[08:27] <intelikey> oem note if you want write support you need to look into ntfs-3g or fuse .
[08:27] <KiPSeRoN> i cant change
[08:27] <KiPSeRoN> this program in that wa
[08:27] <KiPSeRoN> i cant change the text editor
[08:28] <parsek> where does kubuntu send the bugreport it makes when some program crashes (kubuntu 7.04 (pre-release))?
[08:28] <Edulix> hi
[08:28] <oem> wow that was easy enough
[08:28] <intelikey> KiPSeRoN what are you trying to do ?
[08:28] <Edulix> ehich is the fastest server/way to download feasty hed-5? cdimage.ubunut.com is *slow*
[08:28] <KiPSeRoN> i get in to the default application
[08:28] <Edulix> cdmiage.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <oem> took me four hours to get the drive and now it took just 2 min lmao
[08:28] <KiPSeRoN> and to text editor
[08:29] <KiPSeRoN> and i cant change it
[08:29] <intelikey> !bug | parsek
[08:29] <ubotu> parsek: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:29] <guillaume_> hi there!!
[08:29] <intelikey> KiPSeRoN it's set to kate ?
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> no
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> embaded
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> somthing
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> i think its kate
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> ok
[08:30] <KiPSeRoN> i find answer
[08:31] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> parsek: it sends it to LP-
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> well it depends on the program, but Apport sends it to the appropriate team
[08:32] <intelikey> KiPSeRoN i don't know exactly why you can't change it there...   sorry
[08:32] <parsek> Admiral_Chicago: but where in there, can i track it somehow?
[08:32] <KiPSeRoN> ok
[08:32] <KiPSeRoN> i find answer
[08:32] <KiPSeRoN> thank you
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> parsek: what exactly crashed?
[08:32] <parsek> amarok, i have the kubuntu 7.04 (pre-release)
[08:33] <intelikey> #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <intelikey> #kubuntu+1       if that's a real channel
[08:34] <parsek> it gathered info and send it, i just thought that it would be nice to see it somewere in the site, but i think it just went somewhere else, directly to developers or something
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> parsek: ah, okay not sure what amarok does. I suspect it goes to bugs.kde.org
[08:34] <parsek> kubuntu did it
[08:35] <parsek> oh, sorry it was xserver what crashed, amarok just caused it
[08:35] <chx> anyone managed to get Skype dbus working on edgy? I get ERROR: failed to connect to DBUS daemon
[08:35] <chx> I have installed dbus, restarted the machine to get it started, ps -aux shows it running...
[08:35] <parsek> i read something else from your post, like what caused it or somethin
[08:35] <parsek> g
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, not sure what apport does in every case but this question is for #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <intelikey> "I have installed dbus, restarted the machine to get it started,"   :)
[08:38] <Ippatsu> how can I restore all default fonts?
[08:38] <kendrick> i'm having a hell of a time finding a solution for this. i'm running kubuntu 6.10 with KDE 3.5.6, Xorg 7.1.1 and Linux kernel 2.6.17 on an AMD sempron with an Nvidia GeForce FX5200.  when KDE's screensaver comes on and I leave it for a while, I come back and Xorg is taking 100% of my CPU and X becomes unusable. mouse moves, but if I dare click or type, things stop. usually kill with Alt+SysReq+K.
[08:38] <oem> ok so now how do i few available disk space on hda1
[08:39] <intelikey> few ?   view ?      df -h
[08:39] <kendrick> a friend happened to mention his Ubuntu (I think he uses XFCE but maybe Gnome) has a similar problem on some laptop. totally different hardware (gfx, cpu).
[08:40] <kendrick> i've seen others with similar issues on forums, but never find solutions.
[08:40] <kendrick> http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15881/KDE-Xorg-CPU-usage-increases-until-locks-X.html for example :(
[08:41] <dvektor> hallo an alle
[08:42] <Ippatsu> how do I restore all Ubuntu's default fonts?
[08:42] <kendrick> hrm, gotta go make breakfast. mention my nick in your response so i can find it in the traffic later :)
[08:42] <kendrick> thx
[08:42] <intelikey> kendrick you are discribing either a memory leak or a run away process.   if the later  ps aux  will show houndreds/thousands of one process.  if the former hitting  ctrl+alt+backspace   should clear it right up   in either case  check for bug reports on that issue.
[08:43] <kendrick> c+a+b often doesn't work
[08:43] <jsroy> I have a question about Konsole, but am not certain this is the right place to ask this. When I try to execute a program located on my secondary drive (not the one in which kubuntu is installed) I get the message: "bash: ./timeline2: Permission denied", but the permissions of timeline2 are -rwxrwxrwx so they seem fine
[08:43] <kendrick> c+a+f1 then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop often reports that it was unable to TERM and i have to kill -9
[08:43] <kendrick> restart often sticks me in some blank screen where c+a+Fn doesn't do anything, so I have to do A+SysR+K to kill whatever's going on
[08:43] <jsroy> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[08:44] <kendrick> i have a superkaramba that shows me i'm at 100% cpu when i unlock my screensaver
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: sec, looking now
[08:44] <intelikey> kendrick next time you drop to a console to kill it.   first   ps aux    and see if something ran away with it's self
[08:44] <kendrick> and if i c+a+f1 and do a top, i see it's Xorg process
[08:44] <kendrick> intelikey: X did! i already knew that! :)
[08:44] <jsroy> ok, thanks Admiral_Chicago
 intelikey: X did! i already knew that! :)  ???  do what ?    houndreds of instances of X ?
[08:45] <kendrick> no
[08:45] <kendrick> my ONE instance of X ran away
[08:45] <kendrick> 100% CPU
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: have you tried sudo chmod u+x foo
[08:45] <kendrick> "when KDE's screensaver comes on and I leave it for a while, I come back and Xorg is taking 100% of my CPU and X becomes unusable."
[08:45] <intelikey> kendrick no   check and see if something is respawning indefinatly
[08:45] <jsroy> what I did is chmod a+wrx foo
[08:47] <jsroy> I will try your way
[08:47] <kendrick> ok...
[08:47] <kendrick> anyway, this fellow also sounds like he has a similar problem: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15881/KDE-Xorg-CPU-usage-increases-until-locks-X.html
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: its not mounted as exec
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the problem
[08:47] <intelikey> kendrick it's  the same as a bash fork bomb.     something restarting continusly
[08:47] <kendrick> but i _know_ X is at 100%
[08:47] <kendrick> top shows me this
[08:47] <intelikey> kendrick that doesn't tell you why tho.
[08:47] <kendrick> well, i'll try ps aux next time it happens
[08:47] <kendrick> in the meantime, gotta make breakfast and entertain the 3mo old :)
[08:47] <kendrick> thx
[08:47] <adydas_> no multimedia player can play WMV files can it?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: its not a permissions issue, its about how your partition is mounted
[08:47] <intelikey> k  bon apitite
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> adydas_: vlc can
[08:48] <adydas_> really.. bad ass
[08:48] <OOD> adydas_: and so can xine and mplayer with w32 codecs
[08:48] <intelikey> !mp3 | adydas_
[08:48] <ubotu> adydas_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <intelikey>           - But please use free formats if you can:
[08:48] <intelikey>           https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <jsroy> Ok, I tried what you suggested: "sudo chmod u+x foo" but I get the same problem. The permissions of my file is "-rwxrwxrwx 1 jsroy jsroy 22576 2007-03-04 13:14 timeline2".  I should point out that I copied my file to my local drive, that is ~/prog and it works. But not if the file is on my secondary drive
[08:48] <intelikey> and  you can.
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: its not a permissions issue, its about how your partition is mounted. you have it mounted as no exec
[08:49] <jsroy> oh, what do you mean by "not mounted as exec"
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: how is the drive mounted?
[08:50] <intelikey> jsroy no.   mounted  "noexec"
[08:50] <intelikey> jsroy type   mount
[08:50] <jsroy> through my "systems setting"-> "Disk and filesystems"
[08:50] <intelikey> read the options with the mountpoints
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> when you mount partitions, you can set options like do not allow running options .
[08:51] <jsroy> I will check
[08:51] <moritz_> hi
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> blah i explained that poorly.
[08:51] <intelikey>  noexec   nosuid    ro   and so forth...   man mount    for more info.
[08:51] <jsroy> There is a check boxfor "allow executables"
[08:51] <jsroy> it is checked
[08:52] <intelikey> mount
[08:52] <intelikey> never trust a gui to do
[08:52] <jsroy> Ok, I just figure out the message, sorry. I typed mount and here is what I got
[08:52] <jsroy> oups...
[08:52] <jsroy> minut
[08:53] <intelikey> don't flood.
[08:53] <intelikey> only the line that pertains to the fs in question
[08:53] <jsroy> Sorry, I am not used to irc chatting. My message is "/dev/hdb1 on /media/Atlantis type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)"
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: see "noexec" in that line :)
[08:53] <intelikey> noexec <<<  ^
[08:54] <intelikey> C
[08:54] <intelikey> see
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> then change that, save it.
[08:54] <intelikey> monkey C
[08:54] <jsroy> Cool, thanks for pointint that out for me :-) How can I change that ? :-)
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> umount -a (ignore output)
[08:54] <intelikey> in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> actually do sudo -k first.
[08:55] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago mount -a wont remount it.  needs umount first or  mount -o remount
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> 13:54 < Admiral_Chicago> umount -a
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: ^^ :)
[08:55] <intelikey> oh jes.
[08:56] <benjamin1254> hey all klauncher had kicked the bucket and it wont allow me to replace it.
[08:56] <aliveuser> my cd/dvd can just be seen by root, how could i access it from user??
[08:56] <intelikey> time for new glasses.   that's the line i got the mount -a   form Admiral_Chicago
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> haha
[08:57] <benjamin1254> can anyone help me get klauncher back up and running... it tells me it dosent recognise system or trash
[08:58] <intelikey> sounds like throwing garbage...  launch trash !
[08:58] <intelikey> i'm went.
[08:58] <jsroy> I openned fstab and looked at the entries and have a question: is it normal to have two line for the same drive? Here is what I find strange: "/dev/hdb1 /media/Atlantis auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0" "/dev/hdb1 /media/Atlantis auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,exec,nosuid 0 0"
[08:59] <benjamin1254> intelikey: i dont know how im a slight noob at this still and system also died so yeah im kinda SOL unless i can get another distro and fix this problem
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> jsroy: the lines do the same thing, you can delete out
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but, i suggest making a copy of your fstab before editing
[09:00] <benjamin1254> Admiral_Chicago: can u help me with my issue?
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> benjamin1254: give me a sec.
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i will try
[09:01] <benjamin1254> k
[09:01] <benjamin1254> will do Admiral_Chicago
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, where are you getting this?
[09:04] <benjamin1254> when i boot into kde
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see it now
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> benjamin1254: alt + f2, klauncher
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> that *should* get it running
[09:04] <benjamin1254> how do i access k launcher?
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure why its giving a crash, probably a session issue
[09:05] <|Jason8|> I have a kubuntu 6.06 dapper CD, when I put it in my cd drive and reboot, the kubuntu splash screen comes up with the menu and my keyboard drivers unload or something.
[09:06] <|Jason8|> My keyboard just shuts off.
[09:06] <|Jason8|> any idea why?
[09:06] <benjamin1254> Admiral_Chicago: can u give me a link to ubunutu iso image?
[09:07] <|Jason8|> I'd love to run kubuntu instead of ubuntu, KDE is sexy
[09:07] <benjamin1254> kde seems unstable to me
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> benjamin1254: which release
[09:07] <benjamin1254> the new one if u dont mind
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Edgy Eft (6.10) is the latest stable, i'll grab that one
[09:07] <benjamin1254> k
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu?
[09:07] <benjamin1254> no ubunutu
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> or do you want to use GNOME?
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[09:08] <benjamin1254> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> blah, thats dvd
[09:08] <benjamin1254> i cant see anything in my browser Admiral_Chicago so
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sec
[09:09] <benjamin1254> but as soon as i get a link i can download it ez
[09:09] <vicks> is there a good sip client. i've tried kphone, but i can't get it to work
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> benjamin1254: http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm assuming you don't have a 64 bit machine
[09:11] <jsroy> Ok, I tried: "mount -o remount" but I dont think it worked. I will try rebooting my computer. Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it :-)
[09:11] <benjamin1254> yep
[09:11] <benjamin1254> thanks
[09:12] <benjamin1254> thanks
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[09:13] <SolidSource> vicks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software#Free_software
[09:15] <vicks> thanks, SolidSource
[09:15] <incorrect> where is the autostart config?
[09:15] <SolidSource> vicks SIP Communicator looks the best
[09:15] <CShadowRun> uhh, when i use screen savers my linux just crashes back to the login screen
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> incorrect: ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:16] <incorrect> thanks
[09:16] <incorrect> do i just app symlinks in there?
[09:16] <PhinnFort> yeah
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> you can link your programs there, yes
[09:16] <PhinnFort> or make .Desktop files
[09:17] <test34_> My Kubuntu is broke... when I login kdm, I get a black screen and then it goes back to the login screen.. (with any user) Any idea what caused that ?
[09:17] <vicks> do you think i can use the debian packages for sip communicator?
[09:17] <epimeth> test34_ your video card drivers might be incorrect
[09:17] <epimeth> test34_ did you recently install new drivers?
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> test34_: X server
[09:18] <SolidSource> vicks: yes, most deb packages will undoubtedly work with (k,x,e)ubuntu
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <epimeth> I forgot the name of the upcoming ubuntu distro... the one for music professionals?
[09:18] <vicks> ok, i'll try it
[09:19] <test34_> epi, I added a TV tuner card .. but still have the onboard video card
[09:19] <epimeth> try admiral's suggustion... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <epimeth> if that doesn't work we'll try and figure out what the problem is
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: Ubuntu Studio?
[09:20] <igorjr> hi, i have a question about the installation of java
[09:20] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: maybe... whats the addy?
[09:21] <test34_> ok I try this reconfigure
[09:21] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: yes...
[09:21] <test34_> thanks
[09:21] <epimeth> can't wait till that comes out :-)
[09:21] <igorjr> how can i remove the writing-protection of a whole folder?
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: second
[09:22] <SolidSource> vicks: there is actually a repo for SIP Communicator
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: http://ubuntustudio.org
[09:23] <epimeth> igorjr: depends on the reason that its protected... is this a mounted drive?
[09:23] <igorjr> no, i installed java in /usr/java
[09:23] <epimeth> and why do you want to disable write protection there?
[09:23] <epimeth> you shouldn't be writing to there
[09:23] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[09:23] <epimeth> hi rysiek|pl
[09:23] <igorjr> ah, it's ok
[09:23] <rysiek|pl> tried asking this one on #ubuntu, but far too much traffic there, no hel, no answer yet...
[09:24] <igorjr> it started firefox wit kdesu
[09:24] <igorjr> works fine now
[09:24] <Cugel> Ask away rys.
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> moment ;)
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here. a friend tried running fglrx + beryl a wee bit too hard and he "lost" (don't ask...) his libGL.so.1 file (and now e.g. amarok won't start); now, libGL.so.1 is a symlink to libGL.so.1.2 (both are gone), and both are in the package libgl1-mesa-glx... but that doesn't want to reinstall, complaining that it's "impossible to create a symlink (/usr/lib/libGL.so.1): no such file or directory" anybody any ideas? apart
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> from obviously copying the file from my system to his...
[09:24] <epimeth> igorjr: thats not a good solution... you really shouldn't be using a program that has access to the internet as root
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> rekinek: #ubuntu-effects might have a wee bit more experience. I don't suggest copying files though
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> Admiral_Chicago: I suppose tha one was for me, not rekinek ;)
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> rekinek: sorry about highlighting you.
[09:26] <incorrect> i am trying to get superkaramba to work,  i clicked 'new stuff' clicked install on a plugin thingy, downloaded and nothing happened,
[09:26] <igorjr> ye
[09:26] <igorjr> epimeth: i'm wondering, how i can activate the java now
[09:26] <igorjr> epimeth: i installed it properly, even firefox gives me the option to update it
[09:27] <Cugel> incorrect: if you do sudo apt-get install supercaramba (in console), does it tell you it's already installed?
[09:27] <epimeth> igorjr: I'm not certain what it is you want to do...
[09:27] <epimeth> did you sudo apt-get install java?
[09:27] <epimeth> or did you do it another way?
[09:27] <incorrect> yes its already installed
[09:28] <incorrect> i am using it to install desktop widgets
[09:28] <rysiek|pl> incorrect: run superkaramba (get the blue blob in the systray), click it, and double-click your theme
[09:28] <igorjr> via the way on the java-page
[09:28] <igorjr> extracting it into the folder, then installing it
[09:28] <Cugel> Hmm.
[09:28] <SolidSource> igorjr: restart firefox and then in address bar type "about:plugins" to see if java is being recognized
[09:28] <incorrect> ok done
[09:29] <incorrect> i guess 'new stuff' dosn't work?
[09:29] <igorjr> it says: no plugins installed
[09:29] <rysiek|pl> incorrect: new stuff installs you a new theme
[09:29] <epimeth> igorjr: meanwhile I'll check what the java page says...
[09:29] <rysiek|pl> incorrect: but you have to run it later on
[09:29] <quasar> ah so.. a few support questions if i may..
[09:29] <incorrect> ok
[09:29] <SolidSource> igorjr: how did you install firefox?
[09:29] <rysiek|pl> incorrect: like apt-get install an_app and then running an_app
[09:29] <heinkel_111> AAAARGH! I hate it when amaroK cause X to lock up!
[09:29] <Cugel> heinkel: yes, lovely eh.
[09:29] <igorjr> via the add/remove programs
[09:29] <heinkel_111> amaroK got to be the most unstable application in kubuntu
[09:30] <incorrect> ok so where are the themes?
[09:30] <Cugel> I had a problem with 'KWin' and everything locked up.
[09:30] <epimeth> igorjr: which java did you download?
[09:30] <Cugel> quasar: go ahead dude.
[09:30] <om3ga> ok i tried fedora i guess im spoiled buy the siplicity of ubuntu
[09:30] <incorrect> i tried installing one
[09:30] <quasar> first: i am running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn Herd 5 (and let me know if i need to go elseway for alpha).. i have a drive (hdd) which i added partitions hdd5, hdd6 and hdd7 to.. i rebooted.. but they still don't show up in /dev (they do in fdisk though, as type Linux).. what can i do? :)
[09:30] <SolidSource> igorjr: well then just go into konsole and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[09:30] <om3ga> by
[09:30] <om3ga> lol
[09:30] <incorrect> ok so new stuff,  weather++ , install,  (green tick appears) close
[09:31] <CShadowRun> anyone know how to force xwinwrap to run itself in a diffrent resolution?
[09:31] <CShadowRun> im running a dual head setup and its only showing on 1 of my screens :(
[09:31] <epimeth> om3ga: did you have a question?
[09:31] <igorjr> solidsource: thx
[09:32] <om3ga> oh no srry i was in here earlyer and had said i was going to try it i know offtopic
[09:32] <compilerwriter> Now that I have finally gotten remote login to my machine sorted, thanks to Lynoure;  I wonder is there a way to get an xwin sort of login from say my wifes laptop from a remote location?
[09:33] <SolidSource> anyone know if there is a way to install 32bit packages on 64bit through adept....NOT in konsole?
[09:33] <om3ga> !string
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about string - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <CShadowRun> when i start it up it says "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"."
[09:34] <incorrect> i so don't get why after i installed a theme nothing happens
[09:34] <quasar> well, i gotta run, if anyone has any suggestions for my problem with drives in /dev, send me a pm
[09:34] <vicks> i got sip communicator to work. it seems quite nice actually
[09:34] <compilerwriter> Heck, for that matter, it would be nice to login to a brief xwin session from my own living room once in a while so that I don't have to get up from company and run to the office to do something and then come back.
[09:35] <quasar> also.. when i install mdadm and reboot.. (telling it to start "none" arrays "early in the boot process", when i reboot it hangs when it first launches md.. even recovery mode wont' boot..
[09:35] <compilerwriter> I have used ekiga vicks it should work nicely to.
[09:37] <bxnp> this messege i get when i want to empty the trash can
[09:37] <bxnp> Access denied to /home/xnp/.local/share/Trash/files/xmms-scrobbler-0.3.6/.libs/libbmp_scrobbler_la-xmms_scrobbler.o.
[09:37] <vicks> compilerwriter: yeah, the problem is that i have to install 42 packages to runt it. seems a bit much
[09:39] <compilerwriter> vicks: to each his own.  I just know that I was having a hell of a time getting the linux skype thing to work well.  Ekiga allowed to me to connect without the hassle.
[09:40] <oem> is there such a thing as a software installer that you do not have use string commnds in the Konsol?
[09:40] <epimeth> adept
[09:41] <epimeth> its in K menu -> system -> adept manager
[09:41] <epimeth> oem: ^
[09:41] <Dr_willis> oem,  there are front ends to the apt-get system if thats what you mean
[09:41] <oem> yes
[09:41] <oem> that is what i mean
[09:41] <Dr_willis> check out the kubuntu starter guides. :)
[09:42] <Dr_willis> adept or synaptic, are the 2 common ones.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> try apt:/ in a Konqueror window
[09:43] <epimeth> Dr_willis: thats cool... didn't know Konqueror did that :-)
[09:44] <Cugel> willis: that's cool, great tip.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> heh - thats a kioslave, not normally in some disrtos,
[09:44] <Dr_willis> kioslaves get overlooked way too much
[09:44] <epimeth> its funny... I'm sitting here listening to my music for the first time in ages when it suddenly hit me.
[09:44] <epimeth> Linux actually has automatic driver support for a card that my windows couldn't not handle
[09:45] <Cugel> epimeth: yeah, I've been there as well.
[09:45] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  i get that all the time
[09:45] <Cugel> Windows isn't all that great for some particular drivers.
[09:45] <Dr_willis> windows finds a "pci network card"  - Great! :)
[09:45] <Cugel> It is great for some other things, let's not go into that.
[09:45] <Dr_willis> linux loads the proper module. :)
[09:45] <epimeth> "Adoooooooooooooooooreeeeeeeeeeee"
[09:45] <epimeth> "I wanna be adoooooored
[09:45] <epimeth> "you adore me"
[09:45] <Cugel> Stone Roses eh.
[09:46] <Dr_willis> windows wants me to install a 128mb driver download fle for my scanner/printer...  Linux uses sane and a hpoj server for all the similer makes.
[09:46] <epimeth> YES!
[09:46] <Cugel> It took me years before I liked them, now I love that album. Especially that Resurrection song.  -- now back on topic, please.
[09:47] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: if thats a network scanner you are using, I need to know how you got it to work....cause I can't get mine
[09:47] <epimeth> Dr_willis: now don't exhaggerate... must of that 128 is the stupid extra stuff... I'm sure the actual driver is really quite small
[09:47] <epimeth> Cugel: I am the resurrection is my fave, too :-)
[09:47] <oem> ok the next thing is Adept add remove programs keeps closing on me and the adept package manager does the same
[09:47] <epimeth> oem: are you using feisty?
[09:48] <cntb> any ideas on dvd ripping in ubuntu?
[09:48] <SolidSource> cntb: K9copy
[09:48] <oem> um no
[09:48] <cntb> tyvm SolidSource in repos or ?
[09:48] <epimeth> cntb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs?highlight=%28ripping%29
[09:49] <SolidSource> cntb: yes in repo
[09:49] <cntb> epimeth: tyvm
[09:49] <Cugel> man:/  in konqueror is also nice.
[09:49] <epimeth> cntb: go to the wiki before coming here... makes it easier for everyone :-)
[09:49] <fyrmedic> Anybody know of a tutorial or instructions for enabling and troubleshooting sound card/driver problems
[09:49] <Cugel> There's a big 'protocols' section in Kinfocenter that I recommend browsing.
[09:49] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  :) they demand ya install their photo manager tools and scanner tools and of course they try to sell ya 'print stuff on the web services' also...
[09:50] <epimeth> Dr_willis: they don't demand it... they just make it hard not to... its an HP, isn't it?
[09:50] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  if theres a way around installing their crud i havnt found it.
[09:51] <Dr_willis> or course I dont use windows any more.. so Phhhhhhhhhht on them
[09:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:51] <epimeth> Dr_willis: whats the printer make/model?
[09:51] <epimeth> Dr_willis: heh... guess so :-)
[09:51] <Dr_willis> HP1210v or somthing. Its basicially a stand alone 'photo copyer' now
[09:52] <epimeth> holy... gonna go through this Kinfocenter in detail later... applications:/ hehe
[09:53] <BartSimpson> Hello, I am having big troubles with the installer. If someone would take on my very long story and tell me if I'm screwed or what i can do to fix it, that would be very much apprecitated :D . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8673/plain/ (you might want to copy it someone where it will word-wrap)
[09:53] <Dr_willis> one of those neat areas of kde that gets over looked.. but still needs some work.
[09:54] <globe> is it possible to give myself permission to mount & umount remote nfs shares?  I can only mount them as root and only access them as user (which I cant because they were mounted as root)
[09:54] <globe> what is the trick I am missing?
[09:55] <epimeth> whats the soulseek app for kde?
[09:55] <Eagle_101> BartSimpson, I have no clue :(
[09:55] <epimeth> I can't find it :-(
[09:56] <epimeth> BartSimpson: your disc might be corrupted... try downloading it with bittorrent
[09:56] <epimeth> or jigdo
[09:58] <CShadowRun> trying to get xwinwrap to work on a dual head setup, it works fine on my first screen but doesn't show up on the second screen
[09:58] <CShadowRun> anyone got any ideas?
[09:59] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I'm using 6.10 and I have a problem with audacity: it doesn't show any text (screenshot: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2693/adacityym2.png ). I had the same problem also while installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, so I suppose it's a problem with libwxgtk - has anyone an idea on how I could fix it? Or: how can I restore *all* ubuntu fonts?
[10:06] <kruno_> Hi! Could someone tell me what could be the problem with Automatix2...when i try to open it, it says: Please close Apt-get and restart Automatix. Everything is closed, i dont understand...
[10:08] <HymnToLife> kruno_, don't use Automatix :)
[10:08] <kruno_> ok :), i forgot to say i switched to linux a month ago, would be lost without it
[10:10] <HymnToLife> kruno_, just mho, Automatix will do more harm than not, in the long run
[10:11] <morphinex> skuller, I don't know where they download, but I think that you can do apt-get clean to get rid of them
[10:11] <epimeth> does anyone know of an .au to .mp3 converter?
[10:13] <kruno_> HymnToLife: yes, i read so. tnx
[10:13] <bxnp> when i make a link to an icon, how can i make it run : dolphin -style plastic
[10:14] <HymnToLife> kruno_, and if you're lost, don't hesitate to ask questions here or on the !forums :)
[10:14] <bxnp> i can run it on the commandline but not when i put that line in an icon on my desktop
[10:14] <CShadowRun> trying to get xwinwrap to work on a dual head setup, it works fine on my first screen but doesn't show up on the second screen
[10:14] <kruno_> HymnToLife: tnx m8, i will.
[10:17] <oem> ok so i tried to install a package i downloaded  tried it with adept and synaptic
[10:17] <oem> it was a no go
[10:17] <kruno_> HymnToLife: i usually browse the forum, but now i installed Kubuntu edgy (Ubuntu edgy before) and saw Konversation. Both, fast problem solving comunity.
[10:20] <HymnToLife> yeah, it's a shame ubuntu doesn't have xchat installed by default anymore, wile it's perhaps the most convenient way to get help
[10:20] <nuloop> hello, i'm having trouble setting up mime handling for evolution on kubuntu/edgy. how can i make .pdf attachments openable directly from evolution context menu ? for now (default install), i only have an "save as" option...
[10:21] <HymnToLife> instead, it has tons of useless stuff...
[10:21] <Cugel> hymn: like what?
[10:21] <nuloop> use konversation, it's working really well
[10:21] <HymnToLife> OOo, Firefox...
[10:22] <HymnToLife> and certainly many others I don't remember :p
[10:22] <Cugel> I think the inclusion of those is not useless. But I don't like Koffice and Konqueror for web browsing. I'd rather they got rid of those.
[10:23] <HymnToLife> well, OOo is definitely not useful for everyone
[10:23] <HymnToLife> and the default Gnome browser is Epiphany, not Firefox
[10:23] <Cugel> Not?
[10:24] <SolidSource> cugel hymntolife: you do reallize you can make firefox your default browser
[10:26] <HymnToLife> SolidSource, you're totally out of the question
[10:26] <HymnToLife> I'm very well aware I can make FF my default browser, thanks
[10:26] <Cugel> solid: sure -- and let's end this argument here. Let's return to answering Kubuntu queries.
[10:27] <HymnToLife> well, there is nothing to be answered right now :p
[10:28] <Cugel> My take on the whole thing is that including more software (yes, also those propietary things) is better than excluding them. It saves newbies a whole lot of trouble and all others can just remove what they don't like. But that's me.
[10:29] <hyper_ch> who uses konversation in feisty?
[10:29] <HymnToLife> the point is, in Ubuntu, you can _not_ remove what you don't like before risking to break your system badly
[10:29] <oem> how do i find out if i am using fiesty?
[10:29] <HymnToLife> oem, uname -r
[10:30] <HymnToLife> if you have a 2.6.20 kernel;, you're running Feisty
[10:30] <cjbloom> Admiral_Chicago:  i tried re installing kubuntu 5.04 and i tried updating the system and it tells me openoffice needs to be installed aprently and i tried forcing it and it dident wana install via apt get
[10:30] <oem> 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:31] <HymnToLife> oem, Edgy, then
[10:31] <oem> that is what it gave me
[10:31] <oem> ok
[10:31] <oem> thnx
[10:31] <cjbloom> anyone?
[10:32] <Cugel> cjbloom: why 5.04?
[10:34] <SolidSource> cjbloom: if you are having problem upgrading, you could download edgy, burn it and then upgrade through the live CD
[10:36] <fyrmedic> Anyone able to help with sound card/driver issues? I have tried ALSA in several different ways. I have done LSPCI and can't figure out where the card is. I'm stuck.
[10:41] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer..any suggestions ??
[10:42] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer..any suggestions ??
[10:43] <oem> is there anyother frontend installer for thirdparty apps for linux?
[10:43] <nixternal> oem: kind of like CNR maybe?
[10:43] <Cugel> oem: what do you mean, apart from Adept?
[10:43] <bonbonthejon> oem: what are you trying to install that isnt in adept
[10:44] <bonbonthejon> Cugel: :)
[10:44] <nixternal> wastedtime: install 915resolution
[10:44] <nixternal> wastedtime: you need the 915resolution package to fix the resolution and what not
[10:44] <oem> CEDEGA
[10:45] <wastedtime> oh
[10:45] <oem> it is an app that will allow me to play WoW
[10:45] <Apallo> !wine | oem
[10:45] <ubotu> oem: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:45] <SolidSource> oem: along with wine or crossover linux
[10:45] <arthurb> Hey just a question
[10:45] <wastedtime> so i should type install 915resolution at the command..ir when xserver crashes and i have to reconfigure it ?
[10:45] <arthurb> upgrade to feisty
[10:46] <arthurb> but now I can't start up anymore
[10:46] <arthurb> problem with LVM
[10:46] <wastedtime> nixternal : so i should type install 915resolution at the command..ir when xserver crashes and i have to reconfigure it ?
[10:46] <Apallo> how do i find out which version of KDE i have?
[10:46] <arthurb> might have to do with mdadm
[10:47] <bonbonthejon> arthurb: mdadm is for raid
[10:47] <nixternal> wastedtime: reboot the LiveCD to get back into X. once in X, then install the 915resolution
[10:47] <arthurb> ok I don't use raid
[10:47] <bonbonthejon> Apallo: in any kde app, click on help, then about kde
[10:47] <Apallo> thanks
[10:47] <arthurb> so what could go wrong... at the boot is says it doesn't find /dev/mapper/...
[10:47] <arthurb> I am booting from a live cd and the mapping was done fine
[10:47] <bonbonthejon> arthurb: did you install grub to the lvm?
[10:47] <arthurb> bonbonthejon: hum ?
[10:48] <bonbonthejon> arthurb:where did you install grub
[10:48] <arthurb> I didn't change the grub install
[10:48] <wastedtime> actally what happens is initially x crashes ... so i reconfigure it using dpkg-reconfigure.. then it actually boots up..and gives me a blank screen with a pointer
[10:48] <arthurb> not sure
[10:48] <arthurb> but grub starts correctly
[10:48] <wastedtime> nixternal: actually what happens is initially x crashes ... so i reconfigure it using dpkg-reconfigure.. then it actually boots up..and gives me a blank screen with a pointer
[10:49] <wastedtime> i am using a friends laptop so i can actually work on the problem and give u real time updates
[10:53] <nixternal> wastedtime: ahh, that is odd that the LiveCD is giving you issues
[10:53] <nixternal> I have the same video card in this laptop and have never had an issue
[10:53] <nixternal> is it a pre-release LiveCD or a stable release LiveCD?
[10:53] <wastedtime> its stable
[10:54] <wastedtime> are there any special settings that u have to use while reconfiguring xserver
[10:54] <wastedtime> i am leaving most of them as default
[10:55] <nixternal> wastedtime: I use the default xorg.conf, I have a widescreen so I have to use the 915resolution utility to get that correct
[10:55] <nixternal> other than that, it just works for me
[10:55] <wastedtime> how do i install 915resolution ?
[10:55] <premier_> Hello.  i having a lot of trouble related to power management, screensavers, locked screens and closing my laptop
[10:56] <premier_> it all behaves as if it has a mind of its own.
[10:57] <lontra> !medibuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[10:57] <wastedtime> it kinda hangs at "loading the desktop" and gives me a blank screen with the pointer after that
[10:59] <lontra> anyone know the difference between amarok in medibuntu's repo and the default amarok in feisty?
[10:59] <lontra> same with kaffeine
[11:00] <SolidSource> lontra: should have no difference...just one might get upgrade sooner than the other
[11:01] <jake_> hi everybody im new to linux world, some tips would be appreciated
[11:01] <sgentry6> I'm having a bit of an odd problem:  If I insert my wireless usb dongle, I see a few messages output in dmesg, yet I see no difference in lspci (if I have the dongle removed and go to System Setttings -> Network Settings it doesn't show, with it back in it does list the device)
[11:01] <wastedtime> nixternal: any suggestions ?
[11:01] <premier_> One of my usb devices returns "-16" when I try to hibernate, preventing hibernation.  Whats the deal?
[11:02] <nixternal> wastedtime: yes
[11:02] <wastedtime> :D
[11:02] <nixternal> wastedtime: when it hangs press    Alt F7
[11:02] <nixternal> I just remembered that
[11:02] <wastedtime> ok
[11:02] <wastedtime> just a second lemme try that
[11:02] <jake_> btw guys im playing vcd right now but no sounds coming out
[11:02] <NightBird> sgentry6, are there drivers for the device?
[11:02] <nixternal> Alt F7 fixes it when it hangs on my desktop now that I think about it
[11:02] <Bonaldo2000> Anyone know a list of the best games for MAME? Or some recommendations of best games? (Not asking for places to download them)
[11:03] <nixternal> I don't even know what MAME is :)
[11:03] <NightBird> multiple arcade machine emulator
[11:03] <NightBird> or something like that
[11:03] <sgentry6> it's the netgear wg111us, according to the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 page regarding that device the drivers are built into the kernel
[11:03] <NightBird> Bonaldo2000: my king of fighter games always saw the most amount of play...
[11:03] <Bonaldo2000> nixternal: an arcade emulator! :-) So just like to hear of some great arcade games that are available on that!
[11:03] <nixternal> nice
[11:03] <nixternal> I was using docemu to play some
[11:03] <Cugel> bonaldo: Time Pilot -- it's 20kb and I _love_ that game.
[11:03] <NightBird> not that I play it very often...
[11:03] <nixternal> s/docemu/dosemu
[11:04] <sgentry6> at least with edgy, which is what I'm using NightBird
[11:04] <Bonaldo2000> ok! Thx! Also none of you know of a way to make tekken 3 run faster? It is about 5 FPS...
[11:04] <NightBird> sgentry6, so it does have drivers for it?
[11:04] <lontra> SolidSource: thanks
[11:05] <Bonaldo2000> seems like it is not possible unfortunetly...they havent designed MAME to use the GPU...
[11:05] <sgentry6> NightBird: it certainly seems to have drivers
[11:05] <makuseru> how can i burn an avi as a dvd i can watch on a dvd player in kubuntu?
[11:06] <nixternal> makuseru: open up konqueror and then type  help:/k3b
[11:06] <nixternal> there is a howto in there that might help you
[11:06] <premier_> Now my computer wont hibernate because it cannot "find the swap device".  It then tells me to try "swapon -a"  whats the deal?
[11:07] <wastedtime> nixternal: nope it is still the same :s
[11:07] <nixternal> hrmm wastedtime, I don't know what the problem is
[11:07] <nixternal> err
[11:07] <wastedtime> :(
[11:07] <nixternal> at the terminal
[11:07] <nixternal> type
[11:07] <wastedtime> how do i get to the terminal ?
[11:07] <nixternal> tail -30 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:07] <MaartenLx> maybe more luck here.... Has anyone seen the behaviour in KDE that you can no longer change the background? I picked one of the default ones yesterday (the coast one) but I can't change it anymore
[11:07] <nixternal> see what reason it gives for not starting X
[11:07] <wastedtime> how do i get to the terminal ?
[11:08] <wastedtime> its a blank screen :(
[11:08] <nixternal> alt f1
[11:08] <Cugel> maartenl: I have a similar problem with setting the background. I hope that gets solved (I'm pretty sure it's a _bug).
[11:08] <wastedtime> nope nothing
[11:08] <nixternal> wastedtime: ctrl alt f1
[11:08] <_osh> premier_: have a look at swap in /etc/fstab. They changed something in edgy (some uuid string I think) that could screw up things.
[11:08] <MaartenLx> only thing I did since was instaling VNC through the adept manager
[11:09] <MaartenLx> I hope its just a bug
[11:09] <nixternal> food time, back in a few :)
[11:09] <wastedtime> its just a blank screen with a cusrsor
[11:10] <sgentry6> NightBird: Is there any way to ensure that the drivers are loaded?  lsmod | grep -i rtl returns ieee80211_rtl
[11:10] <sgentry6> i wanted to run make menuconfig, but got a few errors
[11:10] <sgentry6> that way I could search on that module
[11:10] <NightBird> sgentry6, dunno..
[11:10] <wastedtime> its says : could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TFF
[11:10] <wastedtime> its says : could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF
[11:10] <NightBird> wastedtime: hm....
[11:11] <NightBird> my X server often times complains about a lack of fonts, but it doesn't normally prevent it from doing anything...
[11:11] <wastedtime> :(
[11:11] <makuseru> nixternal: i read that, and it says how to rip and encode a dvd, but not burn a dvd movie
[11:12] <wastedtime> is there anything else i should do ?
[11:12] <delight> I'm just about to get me Ubuntu Feisty Fawn Herd 5 and put it on a new box of mine ... its a intel core 2 duo ... i was wondering if i can use that 64bit version of it
[11:12] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl F1 through f6 - to get to the CONSOLEs
[11:12] <delight> it's saying AMD64 thou
[11:12] <delight> anybody got experience on that ?
[11:12] <Dr_willis> delight,  they just use amd64 to describe the 64bit disrtos
[11:12] <Dr_willis> it dosent matter if its not an amd \
[11:13] <Dr_willis> I advise Not messing with 64bit however
[11:13] <delight> Dr_willis: so it should run on a intel core 2 duo
[11:13] <Dr_willis> should
[11:13] <delight> :-D
[11:13] <premier_> _osh: what am I looking for?  Can I pastebin the file?
[11:13] <delight> ok ... seems like its coming down to a tryout ... just wanted to avoid downloading over that 2Mbit line ... taking a while
[11:14] <SolidSource> makuseru: trying to burn AVI to DVD? you need to convert the AVI...here is one program that will do it: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36351
[11:14] <makuseru> thanks SolidSource
[11:15] <premier_> _osh: http://pastebin.ca/381500
[11:16] <SolidSource> makuseru: and if you don't want to do it that way: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320389
[11:18] <sgentry6> NightBird: I may be getting closer: an lshw -C network does not show a driver loaded for this wireless card
[11:20] <_osh> premier_: line 12. UUID-something. I think you have to do something like e2fslabel or some such to set that label to your sda4 partition.
[11:21] <_osh> premier_: not sure though. it's different in ubuntu and RHES (which I know some of)
[11:22] <_osh> premier_: and it's e2label, nothing else.
[11:22] <premier_> _osh: well, Im not sophisticated enough to follow that.  Can I just change some of the text in that file, or what?
[11:23] <Flosoft> hey
[11:23] <premier_> sda4 is supposed to be my swap partition.  I expanded it to 2 gigs so that this would work
[11:23] <Flosoft> I have updated one of my Kubuntu servers a few hours ago
[11:23] <Flosoft> now I want to update my laptop
[11:23] <Flosoft> is there a way to not re-download the packages?
[11:24] <_osh> premier_: This might very well screw up your system so don't hold me responsible "sudo e2label /dev/sda4 07fcf7d7-4b46-4192-926c-1ca325b9c9fd"
[11:25] <premier_> _osh: besides a complete backup, are there ways I can protect myself?
[11:25] <_osh> premier_: That's how I'd do it in RHES, don't know if things are the same in kubuntu.
[11:25] <premier_> actually, whats the best way I back up my system?  I might as well
[11:25] <makuseru> SolidSource: how do i install that?
[11:25] <_osh> premier_: check what label you've got now and try to reset that from a live-cd if things go wrong
[11:26] <_osh> !backup
[11:26] <SolidSource> makuseru: install what?
[11:26] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:26] <premier_> okay, should I just backup that one file then?
[11:26] <makuseru> kavi2dvd, ive never installed a tar.gz
[11:26] <_osh> premier_: no, the label is not that file. "man e2label"
[11:27] <SolidSource> makuseru: its a kommander script...use adept to install Kommander
[11:27] <SolidSource> makuseru: and Mjpegtools 1.8.0 ffmpeg 0.4.9_pre1 transcode 1.0.2 Dvdauthor 0.6.11
[11:27] <_osh> premier_: and don't include quotes as I've done. that's just my way of telling that it's supposed to be a command.
[11:27] <makuseru> i got all thoes
[11:28] <makuseru> didnt kno i neede kommander though
[11:29] <premier_> _osh: I got that much.  I read the man file, can I try "sudo e2label /dev/sda3" and copy down the results?
[11:29] <_osh> premier_: approaching midnight here so I'm off to bed. good luck with your problem. perhaps someone else can help you along should things go bad.
[11:30] <_osh> premier_: yeah, I think so. but isn't sda4 your swap?
[11:30] <unix_lappy> midnight, /me slept at 4 and woke up at 3
[11:30] <_osh> premier_: sda3 appears to be your root partition, it looks that way to me anyway.
[11:31] <SolidSource> makuseru: once kommander is installed just run the "kavi2dvd.kmdr" from whatever folder you extracted it to...its basically stand alone app
[11:31] <pascal> Is any body else able to see the entries in the hardware database on http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ or how is this suppose to work?
[11:31] <KanRiNiN> hey, I'm unable to get my cdrom to mount
[11:31] <KanRiNiN> any help would be great
[11:31] <KanRiNiN> thanks
[11:31] <premier_> e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda4
[11:32] <premier_> does anyone know what that means?
[11:32] <pascal> and are anybody actually looking at the entries after it submits?
[11:32] <_osh> premier_: probably that I'm giving bad advice and you should ask someone more familiar with kubuntu. ;-)
[11:32] <LL_Hakaisou> question
[11:32] <_osh> premier_: good luck. i'm off
[11:33] <Tibmol> i have a problem about my tv card does anyone experienced about it ?
[11:33] <LL_Hakaisou> what is the console command that lets you see where sound is being played through
[11:33] <LL_Hakaisou> it shows you a basic graphic equalizer in the Konsole
[11:33] <bxnp> could somebody tell me if he or she knows what the name is of the background image seen in this picture http://www.digiplace.nl/Screenshots/img007.jpeg
[11:33] <slyfox> How can I add to my right clic kcontext menu - create new - open office text document ?
[11:33] <Tibmol> nobody ?
[11:34] <slyfox> Tibmol: ubuntuforums.org
[11:34] <premier_> does anyone here know what _osh is talking about and can help me out?
[11:35] <Tibmol> xawtv gives this error : couldnt find /dev/video0
[11:35] <premier_> apparently, my swap isnt properly labeled and I cant hibernate
[11:35] <fyrmedic> Anyone able to help with sound card/driver issues? I have tried ALSA in several different ways. I have done LSPCI and can't figure out where the card is. I'm stuck.
[11:35] <ubuntu> is there a bash command similar to the dos pause command?
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !bash
[11:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:35] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  yes. i forget what it is off hand. :)
[11:36] <unix_lappy> ubuntu: yes its called sleep + echo
[11:36] <pascal> Kanrinin have you tried mounting it through the systemsettings, disk and filesystems?
[11:38] <apallo> i don't want it to sleep for a given ammount of time, i want it to wait till i tell it to go again
[11:39] <quasar> hyper_ch: i do
[11:39] <quasar> hyper_ch: i do (use konversation in feisty, if you still care :P)
[11:40] <unix_lappy> apallo: there is a unix pause command.
[11:40] <KanRiNiN> pascal I've just tried the sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0 command and such.
[11:40] <apallo> what is it?
[11:40] <unix_lappy> apallo: but sleep + echo is MUCH more powerful.
[11:40] <apallo> it isn't pause, i've already tried that
[11:40] <unix_lappy> apallo: pause.
[11:40] <apallo> i tried that
[11:41] <quasar> can anyone help me.. i have a drive (hdd) which has a bunch of partitions.. hdd5 hdd6 and hdd7 are extended 20 gig partitions.. i partitioned with cfdisk, set to Linux type, rebooted.. but they are not in /dev! what can i do? :)
[11:41] <unix_lappy> you have to setup a signal catch. just like you would for pause, except its not setup for you.
[11:41] <apallo> bash: pause: command not found
[11:41] <pascal> kanrinin Did it suddenly stop automounting or has it never worked?
[11:41] <KanRiNiN> pascal I went in there but it's labelled as a proc and its mount point is a /proc
[11:41] <unix_lappy> apallo: works fine on my RHEL server.
[11:41] <KanRiNiN> pascal It's never worked.  But now I want to install UT2004
[11:41] <apallo> i'm running vanilla kubuntu
[11:41] <unix_lappy> apallo: and my OS X box.
[11:42] <apallo> but still: bash: pause: command not found
[11:42] <pascal> kanrinin. which version of kubuntu do you use?
[11:42] <makuseru> SolidSource: it only made an .xml file
[11:42] <unix_lappy> seems like a good place to check would be to install it?
[11:42] <apallo> how would i work the sleep + echo thing into a script then?
[11:42] <SolidSource> makuseru: what did?
[11:42] <makuseru> the avi2dvd script
[11:43] <crackhead> question: how do i create a virtual machine on my kubuntu 6.10 in order to install windows and windows programs there (for accessing and working with some legacy files from my windows box)?
[11:43] <unix_lappy> apallo: just a bastradized version of pause.
[11:43] <KanRiNiN> Herd5.  Well actually I can rip music, but it won't automount a DVD file system.
[11:43] <SolidSource> makuseru: are you sure...it should be ISO if it finished
[11:43] <unix_lappy> echo "blah" && sleep while no signal interrupt.
[11:43] <apallo> ahhh
[11:43] <unix_lappy> that's just bad psuedocode though.
[11:44] <makuseru> it went through it in like 3 seconds and said "an iso has successfully been created" but it was just a .xml
[11:44] <premier_> My computer wont hibernate because it cannot "find the swap device".  It then tells me to try "swapon -a" how do I fix this?
[11:44] <pascal> kanrinin and UT2004 is on a dvd or cd?
[11:45] <KanRiNiN> dvd.  it looks like I don't even have the /dev/hdc that I put in my fstab when I browse /dev
[11:45] <SolidSource> makuseru: going to test it
[11:45] <apallo> what's the syntax for sleep to wait for a signal interrupt?
[11:45] <makuseru> ok, thanks
[11:46] <pascal> kanrinin. I think I would try to set it through the systemsettings and see if you'r able to do it through that.. I now these modernizations are hard to get used to ;-)
[11:46] <KanRiNiN> pascal:  I do have the /media/cdrom0 though.  It just isn't linked to anything
[11:47] <unix_lappy> or better yet, use the read command to catch a signal interrupt.
[11:47] <KanRiNiN> pascal:  I guess if I can find my UUID somehow or the dev point it may mount
[11:48] <KanRiNiN> brb
[11:48] <hacked_kernel> OpenGL screen savers crashes everytime they start, any ideas about this?
[11:49] <crackhead> hacked_kernel: reconfigure X?
[11:49] <pascal> kanrinin try doing a dmesg | grep CD
[11:50] <SolidSource> makuseru: had to download an AVI..so its almost done
[11:50] <bxnp> so guys what do you think of dolphin
[11:50] <crackhead> ..wrong graphic card drivers selected in X? i had some dispaly issues, which turned out to be that.. i did "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:50] <makuseru> SolidSource: i did it again and it worked
[11:51] <crackhead> ..reconfigured X to use the NV drivers instead of somethin else for my nvidia card.. and it turned out to do the trick..
[11:51] <SolidSource> makuseru: ok, worked here to...also if you are in US...,make sure it is in NTSC format
[11:51] <crackhead> ..also can select default installed graphics formats, such as opengl.. i dont know.
[11:52] <michimanon> hello all
[11:53] <NightBird> yo
[11:55] <ncaller> How can I tell what my current screen resolution is in kubuntu?
[11:56] <HymnToLife> !fr | rifux
[11:56] <ubotu> rifux: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:56] <SolidSource> ncaller: system settings >> monitor and display
[11:57] <rifux> ah sorry
[11:57] <rifux> i am in the kubuntu-fr and ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <rifux> :)
[11:59] <SolidSource> makuseru: also if you need more konverting options there this kommander script (not sure if it does AVI to DVD though): http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53555
[12:00] <Aiken> I have a problem it ntp being started before the network is setup
[12:00] <Aiken> as a work around I put sleep 5 at the start of /etc/init.d/ntp but it seems there should be a better way
[12:00] <Aiken> anyone have any ideas what to look for?
[12:01] <Aiken> feisty installed from heard4 and up to date
[12:01] <michimanon> plz can someone tell me why my kubuntu freeze time to time and i need to reboot?
[12:02] <fizzbane> ok umm i just installed kubuntu and i have 2 moniters i downloaded an nvidia video driver for my video card and i am wondering how to install it.
[12:03] <progek> anyone know if generic kernels work well with nvidia drivers? Yesterday I installed nvidia-glx, then ran nvidia-config and it said direct rendering was on but I had big lag in 3d applications and I would not use control+alt backspace anymore
[12:03] <progek> nvidia-xconfig
[12:04] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace is a x config option. the video card drivers shouldnet be able to disable that
[12:05] <progek> brb
[12:08] <ncaller> well in Settings->Display it says 1024x768 @75hz, but in my xorg.conf I set 1680x1050 @60hz and if I do
[12:09] <michimanon> hi, kubuntu se plante a chaque fois, et faut que je redemarre!! 10 eme fois aujourd hui, qqun n a pas une solution SVP
[12:10] <ncaller> if I do grep "Setting Mode" /var/log/Xorg.log I get: NVIDIA(0): Setting Mode "1680x1050, 1680x1050"
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !fr | michimanon
[12:10] <ubotu> michimanon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:10] <ncaller> so I don't know if the Xorg.log is right or KDE's display util
[12:11] <michimanon> merci
[12:11] <michimanon> ubotu
[12:12] <progek> Im trying to install nvidia drivers. Before installing nvidia-glx is there something I must do?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> michimanon, redemarre ..reboot?
[12:12] <surgy> in open office how do i insert a page number at the top right of every page? insert >> fields >> page number adds it to the current cursor position i need it at the top right every time
[12:13] <surgy> anyone?
[12:13] <ncaller> progek: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx; then sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf; find the line which says "nv" then change it to "nvidia"; save then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[12:14] <Eagle_101> surgy, #openoffice ?
[12:14] <got> hello can someone help please
[12:14] <got> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:14] <hacked_kernel> How to install the Mesa 3d GL driver?
[12:14] <progek> ncaller thanks, yesterday I installed nvidia-glx then ran nvidia-xconfig, control+alt backspace stopped working and I had lag in 3d apps. (even though glxinfo stated direct rendering was on) maybe it was due to not editing xorg?
[12:15] <got> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:15] <progek> ncaller, after installing, is it necessary to run nvidia-xconfig?
[12:15] <got> anyone?
[12:16] <ncaller> no
[12:16] <surgy> no one will answer in #openoffice can someone help?
[12:16] <progek> thanks
[12:16] <ncaller> just make sure in xorg.conf the nvidia driver is specified and not nv
[12:16] <progek> will do , thanks a lot for the help
[12:16] <ncaller> do a which nvidia-xconfig to find it
[12:16] <ncaller> then see what it in the file by: more nvidia-xconfig
[12:17] <ncaller> it may do just that
[12:17] <ncaller> I don't know
[12:18] <SolidSource> progek: also ensure kubuntu-desktop is installed, also you can make an nvidia settings link in menu editor with "nvidia-settings" as the run command
[12:20] <got> can anyone help with xmule?
[12:22] <surgy> can someone help me please? i allready checked in #openoffice theres only 3 people there
[12:23] <got> what problem with openoffice are you having
[12:23] <surgy> in open office how do i insert a page number at the top right of every page? insert >> fields >> page number adds it to the current cursor position i need it at the top right every time
[12:23] <crdlb> surgy, add a header then insert the field there
[12:23] <shampoonator> well i got a little problem i have wo different users, and what them to be able to log into kde.. but only one user is able to login.. not the other i created.. any ideas?
[12:24] <niles> hi
[12:24] <got> hello
[12:25] <got> shampoonator, did you install kde yourself?