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ompaulLiENUS, depends if you xforward the web browser12:01
zYekelsin: did i insult you or something?12:01
ziadozFlannel, would the ubuntu install allow me to put stage 1 and 2 on the ubuntu partition so i can use the nt loader?12:01
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LiENUSompaul, what the hell are you talking about?12:01
eckcinex: well, first of all, if you have a router you do not need to use iptables12:01
erUSULomglazers: just use the two comands i gave you and then try the compilation again12:01
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kelsinLiENUS: you have to look into the drivers for your wireless card to see if it supports host mode, or connect via an adhoc connection, once you get that connected you need to use firestarter or your own IP rules to set up the proper forwarding for sharing the internet12:01
LiENUSompaul, her computer is not on a network12:01
cinexevenif I flush the list it still wont work; eck12:02
LiENUShow am i going to use xforward?12:02
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jin_how to make the up/back/forward buttons smaller??12:02
LiENUSkelsin, and im stuck at setting up ad hoc12:02
jin_on the main toolbar12:02
LiENUShow do i set up an ad hoc connection between a linux and windows xp machine12:02
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eckcinex: if you need to use iptables you need to use the logging options in iptables or maybe tcpdump to debug it12:02
omglazersok, give 'em to me12:02
kelsinzYe: no I'm trying to tell you that this is an ubuntu os channel, and you are asking router and modem configuration questions, Ubuntu can connect to your router (if it's setup correctly) via ethernet, just like any other OS12:02
jin_!flash12:02
eckbut you should just have your router doing all the work12:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:02
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash12:02
K3ntohey guys this is one of my beryl issues : /  http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7104/screenshotgl8.png12:02
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K3ntothe only one i guess12:03
kelsinLiENUS: I don't know much of anything about ad-hoc networks. I know that My girlfriend and I get it to work, but setting my wireless card (with iwconfig) to be in adhoc mode with a unique essid, then it shows up in windows, normaly works, but past it "just working" I don't know much12:03
cinexeck: thanks ill check it out12:03
LiENUSkelsin,  how do i set it up with iwconfig?12:04
blankyhey guys my wireless internet isnt working after installing xubuntu, i did lshw and it says UNCLAIMED, what should I do?12:04
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grimboyAnyone know how to turn off the eight seconds of shift means slow keys? I've tried in Preferences > Keyboard and Preferences > Assistive Technology Preferences.12:04
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erUSULomglazers:  'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' and 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'12:04
godofredo07can someone please help me...I just need to learn how to edit my startup script... :)12:05
mr_big_down_lowhey im trying to update from 6.06 to 6.10 and im using this command : gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it isnt showing the update iv done it before and it did work12:05
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kelsinLiENUS: "iwconfig <interface> mode adhoc", then: "iwconfig <interface> essid <anyword>", I think, man iwconfig to double check that I have the spelling correct12:05
omglazersSide note, how do I enable sudo permissions to move/delete stuff in the file browser?12:05
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godofredo07i hope editing a startup script in ubuntu is easy :)12:06
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globecan anyone tell me how to check if my swap is working?12:06
zYekelsin: so do you know of any router/modem irc rooms around that could help me due to my superb ignorance on this subject?12:06
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mr_big_down_low hey im trying to update from 6.06 to 6.10 and im using this command : gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it isnt showing the update iv done it before and it did work12:06
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n-iCeHow can i make faster my firefox?12:07
mr_big_down_lowcan anyone help?12:07
LiENUSkelsin,  what about ips?12:07
n-iCeI'm using xubuntu12:07
kelsinzYe: your best bet is honestly the manuals for your equipement and help from your ISP, it will get done faster if you call them12:07
magnushcwhich media pplayer is good?12:07
godofredo07fasterfox extension?12:07
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K3nto!nvidia12:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:07
grimboy!swiftfox12:07
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kelsinLiENUS: I forget whether we had to set them ourselves or let the adhoc driver work, honestly I don't know more then what I've already said12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
mx-zoomn-iCe: you might wanna try swiftfox, choose your arch12:07
godofredo07zYe, do you know how i can add a little code to the startup script???????12:07
LiENUS:/12:07
magnushcanyone knows a good media player12:07
n-iCemx-zoom,  is faster than firefox ?12:07
jlgaddis!vmware12:07
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware12:07
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n-iCe!swiftfox12:07
LiENUSanyone else know anything about setting up ad-hoc networks between linux and windows?12:08
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grimboyAnyone know how to turn off the eight seconds of shift means slow keys? I've tried in Preferences > Keyboard and Preferences > Assistive Technology Preferences. It's annoying because sometimes I'll hold down shift whilst thinking about what I'm going to type.12:08
kelsinmagnushc: for what, movies? music?12:08
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mx-zoomn-iCe: it's a build of firefox optimized for different processors and ith many optimization flags on. it is faster12:08
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mr_big_down_lowcan anyone help me?12:08
dan7373Hello - can anyone help with switching video cards from ATI to nVidia with ubuntu already installed?12:08
erUSULomglazers: please adress me as i do or i will miss you in the noise... use 'gksu nautilus'12:08
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n-iCemx-zoom, how can i downlaod it ?12:08
SmileyLaphey guys, i want to control my laptops cpu etc, to lower the heat output, how would i manage this?12:08
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mx-zoomn-iCe: http://www.getswiftfox.com/ , what's your processor?12:08
DM|smileylap emifreq12:08
jairuncalothanyone have experiance with savage video cards?12:08
n-iCemx-zoom,  no idea12:08
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n-iCehow can i know ?12:09
grimboyn-iCe, Or you can use automatix.12:09
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godofredo07dan7373, can't you just change them and then install nvidia drivers via automatix????12:09
SmileyLapDM|: is that a gui app?12:09
grimboyn-iCe, Which does it automatically.12:09
grimboy!automatix | n-iCe12:09
ubotun-iCe: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:09
DM|smileylap a applet on the gnome bar12:09
omglazerserUSUL: I ran the two commands you asked, and neither had a problem but I still got the same error that I showed you in the pastebin12:09
SmileyLapDM|: perfect ^_^12:09
mx-zoomn-iCe: cat /proc/cpuinfo12:09
grimboy!WorksForMe | n-iCe12:09
ubotun-iCe: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:09
dan7373I don't know - would i have to go to some neutral drivers since I'm on ATI drivers now?12:09
DM|smileylap should be able to apt-get install it12:09
jin_hi12:09
jin_why isn't there an update for firefox to upgrade from 1.5 to 2?12:09
godofredo07dan7373, i believe so but, once you install the nvidia drivers you should be back on track...am i right guys??12:10
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n-iCemx-zoom,  this?  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz12:10
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SmileyLapDM|: yeah the tool is getting it now :)12:10
mbdlcan anyone help me with upgrading to edgy?12:10
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kelsinjin_: Firefox 2.0 wasn't ready in time for edgy, it will be in fiesty so I hear, major software version upgrades aren't carried out inbetween releases12:10
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foormea!fonts12:10
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer12:10
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DM|smileylap cool, have fun.12:10
jin_kelsin, I'm on dapper12:10
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=== Xenguy notes ubotu says to use gksudo instead of gksu...
toulousecan overburning write an extra 50 mb?12:11
SmileyLapDM|: as you were so helpful, anyway to disable the mouseclick function on my mousepad?12:11
LiENUSkelsin, how do i install firestarter?12:11
SmileyLap:O12:11
kelsinjin_: well then that explains it ever more, the same thing applies, major version upgrades are only done between releases, dapper won't get firefox 212:11
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LiENUSthe apt-get install firestarter failed12:11
kelsinLiENUS: sudo aptitude install firestarter, or search for it in synaptic, look up the ubuntu manuals online about how to install software12:11
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LiENUSkelsin,  install failed12:11
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mbdlplease tell me if your all too busy and ill come back later12:11
jin_kelsin, what happen to security fixes then?12:12
LiENUSfirestarter wont run12:12
mx-zoomn-iCe: when downloading, choose pentium 4 :), or try automatix, it seems to do it automagically. get automatix here: www.getautomatix.com/12:12
rivereyedoes anyone in here know anything about ftape?12:12
toulousehow much farther can overburning get you?12:12
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jin_kelsin, I'm sure firefox 1.5 has bugs12:12
n-iCemx-zoom,  i already downlaod it i have the file in desktop now ?12:12
kelsinjin_: you'd have to ask a developer, if you want either upgrade your ubuntu install or look into installing firefox 212:12
julien__hello12:12
kelsin!firefox | jin_12:12
ubotujin_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:12
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LordLimecatis there any reason someone with nvidia drivers installed cant simply overwrite them with a new install?12:13
LordLimecatusing the nvidia installl script?12:13
mx-zoomn-iCe: downloaded from getswiftfox.com? untar it and extract it to some place like /opt/12:13
jin_kelsin, nah, I'm gonna stick with dapper. it's more stable than all others.12:13
up365mbdl, state your problem if someone can help they will12:13
julien__i try to install cedega with wineCVS.sh, but there's a error, is someone get an old version that work ?12:13
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n-iCeit's a .sh12:13
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kelsinjin_: then read that guide about installing 2.0, as far as bug questions about firefow 1.5 you'd have to ask one of the firefox maintainers or someone more knowledgable then me12:13
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mbdlhello?!?!12:14
kelsinjulien__: Are you using a game that needs cedage as opposed to just plain wine?12:14
mx-zoomn-iCe: what is a sh?12:14
n-iCe.sh the extension12:14
n-iCeinstall-swiftfox.sh12:14
Xenguymx-zoom: shell script12:14
kelsinmbdl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades12:14
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up365mbdl, state your problem so someone knows what it is12:14
mx-zoomXenguy: I know what a sh is lol12:14
magnushcwhich media player is good for movies and web TV12:14
toulousehow do i uninstall something in wine???12:14
mx-zoomn-iCe: you talking about swiftfox or automatix?12:15
julien__kelsin: i try to install aoe2 with wine, but i have an error12:15
n-iCeswift12:15
Xenguymx-zoom: 18:15 < mx-zoom> n-iCe: what is a sh?12:15
kelsintoulouse: same as in windows, run the uninstall program, delete the folder and scan the registry, etc etc12:15
mx-zoomXenguy: I meant which of the files was a sh12:15
loppaDoes anybody know how .tgz files work?12:15
mx-zoomlol12:15
mbdlkelsin:dont that already and it doesnt show12:15
kelsinjulien__: ahhh, yeah not a directX game, just double checking, good luck12:15
lyami have downloaded .tar.gz archive from gnome-look site (an image and config file) and dont know how install it. any ideas?12:15
mx-zoomn-iCe: download this  http://www.getswiftfox.com/builds/releases/2.0.0.2/swiftfox-2.0.0.2-pentium4.tar.bz2 and extract it to /opt/12:15
Xenguyloppa: they are compressed (.gz) tar (.tar) files12:16
eric__thanks12:16
mbdlkelsin: done that...and it doesnt show i dont know why maby they took it off...but ya12:16
SmileyLapanyway to disable the mouseclick function on my mousepad?12:16
godofredo07how do i move a file to /etc/init.d as root??? please help me :(12:16
n-iCeok12:16
grimboyOh, solved with gconf-editor12:16
godofredo07the file is called gamesound12:16
blankyguys please help it's urgent! I just ran lshw | grep network and it says network: unclaimed, what does that mean?12:17
kelsinmbdl: I don't have time to help you upgrade, just wanted to point you to the website that does12:17
erUSULgodofredo07: with sudo ??12:17
erUSUL!sudo > godofredo0712:17
godofredo07yes sudo12:17
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godofredo07i know how to use it12:17
godofredo07could you just give me an example to refresh my mem12:17
godofredo07i think i'm doing it right12:17
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SmileyLaperUSUL: ! :D Maybe you can help again, i want to stop my mousepad doing the mouseclick function.12:18
erUSULgodofredo07: sudo mv file /destination12:18
blankyanyone please?12:18
loppaXenguy, okay. Now that I've unpacked it, you know how to install drivers?12:18
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erUSULSmileyLap: i do not have experience with ubuntu in laptops...12:18
Xenguyloppa: what drivers?12:18
r3factoredgodofredo07: i removed wine and installed via automatrix2 and get the same errors on starting winecfg12:18
godofredo07r3factored, sorry12:18
loppaXenguy via drivers for my graphics card.12:18
toulousehow do i get to the wine uninstall programs? ( i want to uninstall firefox)12:19
godofredo07r3factored,what are the errors?12:19
r3factoredgodofredo07: np thanks for the tip though12:19
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SmileyLaperUSUL: ah nevermind :?12:19
LordLimecatquick question--very important12:19
n-iCemx-zoom,12:19
Xenguyloppa: nope.  I'd recommend you find a good howto webpage for ubuntu via12:19
r3factoredgodofredo07: http://www.shortText.com/4zjl8c12:19
LordLimecathelpin someone reinstall nvidia drivers....want to make sure its ok to remove these12:19
n-iCesaid that i don't have permission to extract in /opt12:19
LordLimecatthis should NOT be uninstalled, should it?12:19
LordLimecatX.Org X server -- NV display driver12:19
mbdlcan anyone else help me whith my update issue... form 6.06 to 6.10 the install command now working?!?!?!12:19
cryptiksu12:19
loppaXenguy, running Suse actually. Never got the hang of ubuntu.12:19
mx-zoomn-iCe: use sudo12:20
HiDensityi can't get adesklets to load...I run the .py file and nothing happens12:20
n-iCemx-zoom,  ah ?12:20
godofredo07r3factored, what are you trying to run?12:20
cryptikor just su12:20
n-iCei did it not in the terminal, how can i do it in terminal ?12:20
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r3factoredgodofredo07: winecfg for the first time12:20
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godofredo07r3factored, you could always just run windows virtually with VMware12:20
mx-zoomn-iCe: sudo nautilus /opt/ copy the file there and extract it12:20
r3factoredgodofredo07: yeah i know buy vmware server is heavy maybe ill try crossover12:20
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lyamhow to convert .png image to .so?12:20
godofredo07r3factored, it should work unless you are trying to play games12:20
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r3factoredgodofredo07: no just windows apps - ive used it before12:21
godofredo07huh12:21
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godofredo07with my experience with wine...its either hit or miss12:21
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toulousegodofredo07: true12:21
Minibnzhi all i need a little help... i am trying to compile an app that requires the mysql header files.. but i am only able to find them in RPM format is there a way to install them onmy ubuntu box12:21
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HiDensitycan you run os x apps with wine?12:21
godofredo07r3factored,i installed ubuntu 6.10 ran automatix and installed wine12:21
godofredo07r3factored, that is the only way i could get it to work smooth or at all12:22
toulousedo you know how to find the uninstall programs within wine12:22
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n-iCeI don't understand mx-zoom12:22
Lazergunzanyone know how to uninstall the ATI driver completley?12:22
r3factoredgodofredo07: ok thanks for the info - im bailing on wine and going with crossover or wmware12:22
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godofredo07r2factored, have you just tried running something directly?12:22
netsrotgaim seems to crash quite often, is there any other good multi protocol chat client that works with ubuntu?12:22
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r3factoredgodofredo07: ???12:22
ElbridgeGerryHow do I install build-essential without my installation cd?12:22
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godofredo07r3factored, sorry..have you just tried running it straight12:23
r3factoredgodofredo07: no12:23
BAZOOKAYou have to buy it12:23
whositKopete is another client12:23
godofredo07r3factored, just right click on it and say run with wine?12:23
crdlbElbridgeGerry, do you have an internet connection?12:23
n-iCethe name is : swiftfox-2.0.0.2-pentium4.tar.bz212:23
Minibnzthe header files i need are from version 3.23... if anyone knows where i can get an ubuntu install for them that would be easier12:23
r3factoredill try12:23
ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: I'm here.12:23
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ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: =p12:23
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:23
BAZOOKA :D  '<12:23
BAZOOKAAnybody want to talk to me?12:24
ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: It says "Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025) in the drive /cdrom/ and press enter"12:24
mx-zoomn-iCe: get in #abcdefgh12:24
crdlbElbridgeGerry, well you could be on a different computer :D12:24
BAZOOKAI know how to make viruses12:24
godofredo07r3factored, try it because i have to go real quick and want to see what happens :)12:24
netsrotwhosit: is Kopete stable?12:24
ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: Why does it ask me for that?12:24
godofredo07r3factored, it might just work... :)12:24
whositSeems to be for me12:24
godofredo07r3factored, or not!12:24
r3factoredgodofredo07: thanks will do12:24
netsrotwhosit: ok thanks.12:24
godofredo07k bye12:24
whositnp12:25
ElbridgeGerryIs there a flag that says just to get it from the server?12:25
n-iCewhat i need to do now ?12:25
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BAZOOKAI'm going to send every one of you viruses from tommorrow12:25
BAZOOKAl12:25
BAZOOKAo12:25
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crdlbElbridgeGerry, what are you using to install it? synaptic?12:25
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BAZOOKAyep12:25
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crdlbElbridgeGerry, I know you can temporarily add the cd to synaptic, but I've never seen it require the cd12:26
ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: apt-get12:26
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jin_when moving a window, it leaves traces behind for half of a second, any way to fix that?12:26
crdlbElbridgeGerry, look in /etc/apt/sources.list12:26
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ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: Should I remove the CD from my repo list?12:26
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ElbridgeGerryWait,12:27
ElbridgeGerryyou just said that12:27
ElbridgeGerry=p12:27
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lufisIs there a way to boot from a livecd and resize an existing partition without installing anything?12:27
ElbridgeGerrylufis: Look for the gparted liveCD12:27
phaedralufis, Yes. Use gparted.12:27
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cryptikor qtparted12:27
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lufisElbridgeGerry: i'd really rather not use another cd for something i'm only going to use once. can it not be done from the ubuntu livecd?12:28
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ElbridgeGerrylufis: I think gparted is on the LiveCD12:28
lufisElbridgeGerry: ah, okay12:28
lufisthanks12:28
AaronMTI cant load herd5, I get a "cant access TTY job control (turned off)" error along with something about initramfs? Any suggesstions?12:28
ElbridgeGerryAaronMT: #ubuntu+112:29
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Mach3does anyone have experience with dual booting windows from a raid0 and ubuntu from a 3rd hdd?12:29
ElbridgeGerryThey're more likely to know about Fiesty12:29
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ElbridgeGerrycrdlb: It worked, thanks.12:30
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ShankAnyone know what to use to put music on a nokia phone?12:31
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BenPAhi all ... can any one help with missing java in Ubuntu 8.0712:32
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MadP3nGu1nwhy cant i connect to my wifi router,but have access to someone else network?12:32
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ClarKentanyone know how to save sessions in openbox? I can't get the wallpaper to change after reboot12:32
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lufisBenPA: you should be able to install java in synaptic12:32
sergoShank install your nokia Cd softWare and then connect the telephone to pc via Usb Port ...12:33
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lufisBenPA: https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html12:33
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BenPAI am missing something in one of my browsers12:33
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ElbridgeGerryUbuntu 8.07?12:34
omegabeta!kde12:34
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.12:34
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lufisBenPA: follow that guide, it installs the firefox plugin as well12:34
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sergoomegabeta if i will install xubuntu-desktop what will hapen with gnome-desktop?12:34
sergo?12:34
BenPAok I will see if reloading helps12:34
sergo:)12:34
Shanksergo, it didnt come with a cd :(12:34
lufisBenPA: well, reloading won't help if you don't install java first...12:35
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sergoShank i know, but maybe the mirror from our country have xubuntu-desktop on it...12:35
BenPAtrue12:35
sergobecouse i want xubuntu but don't want to remove ubuntu and install xubuntu from 0 ...12:35
Shanki dont have xubuntu12:36
Shanki meant the nokia12:36
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sergo:))12:36
BenPAbut some browsers work and some don't ... I installed Opera from automatix and it seems to be missing somethings that deal with java12:36
sergoi think what you try to help me12:36
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godofredo07can someone tell me how to make this command executable...AKA (Like a double click i can put on my desktop) : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8473/12:36
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ompaulBenPA, maybe you need to ask the #automatix people about that cos12:36
ompaul!automatix12:37
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:37
lufisBenPA: that may be the case. you may have to link the java plugin libraries to opera if they work for it as well12:37
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BenPAthen again firefox has something missing too12:37
Q_Continuumeck: I did what you suggested, with the dd... and wrote that image to the drive.  But then it wanted the ISO, but when I wrote it out it took the free space that had been available in that image and wrote that to the drive.  So the 16GB Flash drive only saw 250MB or so of free space.  Not enough for the .ISO.12:37
sergoShank what your problem then12:37
lufisBenPA: are you running a custom firefox?12:37
ubuntu_almost_wocan anyone help me?  When I shutdown edgy it locks up...12:37
lufisBenPA: that is, not from the repos?12:37
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omegabeta!xfce12:37
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BenPAhow do I link12:37
Q_Continuumeck: So what I need to figure out, is how I can modify that .img before I dd it, or if I can partition it manually into smaller chunks and dd it to a sole partition.12:37
godofredo07just put the url in12:37
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ompaulubuntu_almost_wo, what is the last message on the screen?12:37
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lufisBenPA: sudo ln -s source destination12:37
BenPAI am not running a custom firefox12:37
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godofredo07or use tinurl.com12:38
lufisBenPA: did you install java though?12:38
ubuntu_almost_wono message just black screen12:38
ubuntu_almost_wofresh install... nforce1 chipset12:38
ubuntu_almost_woall updates12:38
brusselis there a quicktime plugin for ubuntu?12:38
lufisBenPA: it isn't installed by default12:38
BenPAI thought I did but I will try again12:38
lufisbrussel: no, but totem works well12:38
BenPAok12:38
godofredo07Can someone please tell me how to make this script executable AKA (a double click launcher for desktop) ?????? here it is... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8473/12:38
sergoomegabeta if i install xubunut-desktop (currently i'm using ubuntu) will ubuntu be completely looking as xubuntu? -)12:38
BenPAbrb12:38
ompaulubuntu_almost_wo, no idea without a clue from the screen12:38
ubuntu_almost_wohow do I get a clue from the screen?12:39
lufisBenPA: type about:plugins in firefox and see if java's listed12:39
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Dr_willisgodofredo07,  chmod +x it, and make an icon launcher on the desktop for it.. check out the gnome guides for beginners docs12:39
lufisbrussel: provided you have the proper codecs installed12:39
brussellufis, i'm browsing and there is a tutorial in quicktime, can i use totem to watch it?12:39
godofredo07Dr_willis, i do what?12:39
lufisbrussel: if you have the codecs12:39
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godofredo07Dr_willis, I go to the terminal12:39
ompaulubuntu_almost_wo, it should say stuff as it is shutting down but you say it is not12:39
brussellufis, which codecs?12:39
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omegabetaompaul: Sego, you dont want to use xfce is you have to adk.. trust me on that ;)12:39
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erUSULgodofredo07: those two lines are better in /etc/rc.local12:39
ubuntu_almost_wois their a log I can do12:39
ubuntu_almost_wo?12:39
lufisbrussel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:40
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Dr_willisgodofredo07,  are we back to  learning the basics of linux again? :)12:40
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brussellufis: k12:40
lufis:)12:40
godofredo07Dr_willis, define basics :)12:40
ompaulubuntu_almost_wo, you could ctrl alt F1 and then log in, then >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop << then >> sudo shutdown -h now << and see what comes up on the screen12:40
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Dr_willisgodofredo07,  if you dont know about 'chmod +x' thats about linux day 2 of linux 101 class..12:41
eegore!WorksForMe12:41
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:41
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ubuntu_almost_woit seems to only do it with the powerbutton12:41
ompaulubuntu_almost_wo, well are you going to do what I suggested?12:41
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godofredo07Dr_willis, I copy and pasted the text into a file called "etfix" then, I did cd ~/Desktop then chmod +x etfix ....now nothing changed :)12:42
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Urbanmagehey all, I have a real quick question.  I looked through the documentation and didn't find anything one way or the other, so I thought I'd come here as a last resort.12:43
dougbDoes Ubuntu have the DST bug like Windows has?12:43
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lufisdougb: dunno, but i bet you ubuntu won't charge for a patch ;)12:43
ompauldougb, define what the DST bug is12:43
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dougbseriously, $4,000 for a patch?12:43
crdlbdougb, I assume an update has been made12:43
godofredo07Dr_willis, you there?12:44
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mnk0hey sup12:44
godofredo07Dr_willis, did i do it completely wrong????12:44
mnk0im having problems with xgl+beryl on ati12:44
dougbthey call it a "bug" but it's changing the hard coded date set to change clocks for DST, since Bush changed it to be a few weeks earlier, not all OS's are aware of this and won't update the time accordingly12:44
mnk0folloewd a guide, and when i startup, the cube is all white12:44
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mnk0can't see anything on screen12:44
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UrbanmageI downloaded the desktop cd and I'm trying to figure out if I can install the server edition from it.  I thought maybe they might be the same cd with different options, but I wasn't sure12:44
lufisdougb: shrub is deciding that kind of thing now? oh god help us12:44
jlgaddisdougb: Run 'date -d "March 27"' in a terminal.12:45
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jlgaddisdougb: If it says xDT instead of xST, you're fine.12:45
jlgaddisdougb: Debian has the updated tzdata package, so I'm sure that Ubuntu does as well.12:45
Shankwhen something asks me for a prefix where I want to install something in /usr/local does it mean , where to put it i.e. /games or the like?12:45
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ompaulwhen is the summer time starting?12:46
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dougbyea, it showed xDT12:46
Dr_willisgodofredo07,  try a 'ls -l whateverfile' and see if the permissions are different nopw12:46
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erUSULdougb: there's been a lot of tzdata updates lately so no i think that ubuntu does not have the dst bug12:46
jlgaddisdougb: You're fine then.12:46
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gumby600mmediawiki12:46
dougbit wasn't a big deal, I just thought how Microsoft is charging $4k to "fix" the bug is ridiculous12:46
jlgaddisdougb: Say what?  $4,000?12:46
mnk0heh12:46
lufisShank: it depends on where you want it. both are valid paths12:46
jlgaddisWhoever told you that is lying.12:46
mnk0anyone use irssi ?12:46
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erUSULmnk0: me12:47
dougbyeah jlgaddis, and they dropped the price from $40k12:47
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Xenguy!anyone > mnk012:47
tommyvhi i just mounted a partition to ~/partition1, but now i cant move any files to it or anything cause of file permissions, how do i make it readable/writeable??12:47
mnk0erUSUL: do u know about hiding joins and parts from the chat??12:47
Dr_willisMS saved you 36,000$12:47
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Shanklufis, what does it mean by prefix?12:47
dougbhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129550-c,industrynews/article.html12:47
Dr_willismnk0,  you use the ignore command.12:47
mnk0i tried it12:47
lufisShank: just where it installs to. if you choose /usr/local, it will send all the files there12:47
Dr_willismnk0,  like /gnore PARTS ALL12:47
mnk0oh yeah?12:47
=== jlgaddis hands dougb KB article #931836
Urbanmagedoes anyone have experience with the server edition of ubuntu?12:47
Dr_willismnk0,  and i ALWATYS get it backeareds12:47
lufisShank: it doesn't matter i don't guess, both are recognized when you run commands12:48
tommyvhi i just mounted a partition to ~/partition1, but now i cant move any files to it or anything cause of file permissions, how do i make it readable/writeable??12:48
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Xenguy!anyone > Urbanmage12:48
erUSULmnk0: /help ignore12:48
mnk0ok12:48
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Dr_willistommyv,  and what kind of partition/filesystem is this?12:48
ebichuhamster!rules12:48
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:48
lufisShank: if a command is in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin, it will work either way12:48
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Shankok, thanks12:48
jlgaddisdougb: I manage Windows Servers for a .edu and have been dealing with this for the last few months.  I can state, definitively, that Microsoft is *NOT* charging to fix the "bug".12:48
lufis:)12:48
mnk0do i have to quit irssi for it to take effect?12:48
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godofredo07Dr_willis, this is what it says: -rwx--x--x 1 godofredo godofredo 113 2007-03-03 18:40 etts_fix12:48
tommyvDr_willis: it's fat3212:48
Dr_willismnk0,  of course not. that would be silly12:48
dougbDepends how old your software is jlgaddis12:49
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ShankWhen it asks for a devicepath and the device is usbdisk, do i put /dev/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk or which?12:49
root_i cant get into xwindows12:49
mnk0'/ignore joins ALL12:49
root_help12:49
Dr_willistommyv,  use the proper mount or fstab options. its well documented.12:49
jlgaddisdougb: If you're running crap older than Windows 2000, perhaps.12:49
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume12:49
jlgaddisdougb: They're providing fixes for everything from Win2K and later.12:49
root_i installed barrel12:49
Dr_willis!vfat12:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse12:49
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mnk0hmm dosnt seem to work tho12:50
mnk0heh12:50
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dougbWindows 2k isn't included actually "Among the titles in that extended support category are Windows 2000, Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2000, the e-mail and calendar client included with Office 2000. For users running that software, Microsoft charges $4,000 per product for DST fixes."12:50
godofredo07Dr_willis, no clue what i just sent you meant...12:50
lupoI'm sorry. bye12:50
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jamiehdHello12:50
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lufisroot_: you mean beryl?12:50
jlgaddisdougb: They're providing a registry fix for Windows 2000.  I know, I'm installing it on a number of servers tomorrow morning.12:50
lufishi jamiehd12:50
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jamiehdDoes anyone here no anything about ubuntu server?12:51
jlgaddisdougb: I can provide you with plenty of URLs on microsoft.com, if you'd like to continuing spreading FUD.12:51
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jamiehdhi lufis12:51
dougbjlgaddis: well that is good to know.12:51
lufisjamiehd: what's the issue?12:51
ompauljamiehd, ask the real question, i.e. the next one12:51
ZambeziAnybody know how to start Gajims keyring in E17?12:51
ompaul:)12:51
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jamiehdHow do I configure ftp, so I can actually upload files to my server?12:51
dougbhaha no jlgaddis, I just think the price tag of the fix is ridiculous12:51
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Dr_willisgodofredo07,  back to the nasty learning of fundamentals again. :) the 'x' means the file is executable.12:52
jlgaddisdougb: If that's even true that they're charging it for stuff older than Win2K, I don't blame them.12:52
Dr_willisgodofredo07,  so NOW you can type ./whateverthatfileis12:52
Dr_willisand it will run12:52
jlgaddisdougb: There's a reason why the products are EOL'd.  They're friggin' old and you shouldn't be running them.12:52
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dougbThat's true, maybe the price tag is incentive to upgrade12:53
erUSULmnk0: something like /ignore #ubuntu * -ALL +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS12:53
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UrbanmageCan you install the server edition from the desktop cd?12:53
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godofredo07how do i become root?12:53
mnk0hmm cant u set that globally? without specifying the channel?12:53
godofredo07sudo -i?12:53
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lufisUrbanmage: don't think so12:53
nine09Urban: i am wondering the same thing12:53
Urbanmagehmmmm12:53
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erUSULmnk0: something like /ignore * * -ALL +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS  ??12:54
nine09there don't seem to be any other ISO's to choose from12:54
jamiehdHow do I configure ftp, so I can actually upload files to my server?12:54
lufisUrbanmage: though there might be a server metapakcage or something12:54
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Alethesgah, is there anyway I can revert to the previous version of the nvidia driver?12:54
AlethesI did the update as suggested and now X dies on me randomly12:54
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UrbanmageLufis: thanks for the tip, I'll have to check.  I guess I'm really just being lazy and wanting to save myself the trouble of burning a new cd ;-)12:55
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lufisUrbanmage: yeah, i feel ya12:55
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lufisUrbanmage: search in synaptic for "server edition" or something along those lines12:55
godofredo07now, if i could only figure out how to make this program start up automatically!12:55
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Woodstokklooking for someone who can get me on a list to get Ubuntu CD's, can anyone help? (Not the 'shipit' info, I registered there and its not working right)12:55
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lufisjamiehd: proftpd?12:55
jamiehdWhat ever came with the disk12:56
joshjoshwhat's the terminal command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running.12:56
joshjoshor, how can i period?12:56
jamiehdI'm sorry, I don't know too much about it/12:56
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cr4z3dhmm.. how do i get rid of the | in x-chat12:56
nine09Urban: I have looked through the Help file fairly well, and havent found a clue to proceed with the server isntall12:56
godofredo07Now, does anyone know how to make a script run automatically on startup!!!!!! :)12:56
erUSULjoshjosh: lsb_release ??12:56
n-iCejoshjosh,  you can see it in about ubuntu12:56
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ardchoillejoshjosh: lsb_release -a12:56
Dr_willisgodofredo07,  depends on 'which' startup.12:56
PokerFacePenguingodofredo07: you running kde or gnome?   I know this is Ubuntu channel, but i gotta ask12:56
lufisjamiehd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7958812:56
erUSULgodofredo07:i told you a few minutes ago "those two lines are better in /etc/rc.local"12:56
jamiehdthanks12:56
ardchoillejoshjosh: or lsb_release -a | grep Release12:56
Urbanmagelufis: I'm actually installing it on a different system than my current box12:57
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lufisUrbanmage: ah12:57
Woodstokklooking for someone who can get me on a list to get Ubuntu CD's, can anyone help? (Not the 'shipit' info, I registered there and its not working right)12:57
godofredo07PokerFacePenguin, Gnome12:57
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joshjoshhmm...how can i find out which herd i'm running?12:57
godofredo07erUSUL, what?12:57
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godofredo07erUSUL, i'm sooo confused.. :(12:57
fr500Woodstokk: as far as i know, you have to go to shipit.ubuntu.com and request them12:57
lufisjoshjosh: i forget the command, but if you go to system > about ubuntu12:57
Woodstokktried that... its not working right12:57
godofredo07erUSUL, someone emailed me a tutorial that told me to put it in etc/inid.d12:57
okaratasi prepared a deb packet for ubuntu which is not in the archives. how can i send this to archives? what should i do?12:57
godofredo07init.d*12:57
joshjoshblah. i'm in kde12:57
lufisjoshjosh: oh, nvm then12:58
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lufisjoshjosh: look for "about ubuntu" somewhere i guess12:58
Woodstokkthey want you to register a launchpad account.  I did that, and then it still does not let me in12:58
erUSULgodofredo07: you can add the two lines of your script to that file and they will be run at startup12:58
leoIserverhow can i check if a filename is coded in UTF or if it is coded in ISO12:58
PokerFacePenguingodofredo07: then follow erUSUL directions...i was going to suggest the easy way...in my home dir (KDE) there is a subfolder of .kde called Autostart....i usually just add a line to a script i have in there12:58
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XenguyleoIserver: file filename12:58
XenguyleoIserver: maybe12:58
jamiehdIt said "couldn't find package proftpd"12:58
godofredo07okay, good...how do i access this file :) ..sorry12:58
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Xenguyjamiehd: vsftpd  ?12:59
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PokerFacePenguinsudo nano (or your favorite editor) filename12:59
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Akuma_why is the php5 package dependent on apache? i want just php by itself ... ?12:59
jamiehdsudo apt-get vsftpd ?12:59
lufisjamiehd: run ps aux | grep proftpd12:59
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antoniouhello everyone12:59
IndyGunFreakjoshjosh: did anyone tell you the command to see the version of ubuntu you're running/12:59
Xenguyjamiehd: sudo apt-get install vsftpd12:59
Xenguyjamiehd: if you want it installed01:00
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nine09why do I have no money>?01:00
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foormeadoes anyone use conky here? i've got a problem with fonts. i've got "use_xft yes" and "xftfont <existing_font_name>", either with conky 1.4.2 or with 1.4.5 built with xft support, it always uses the non-xft font specified by "font <font_name>"01:00
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Dr_willisnine09,  you bought pizza?01:00
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godofredo07erUSUL, okay, here is the file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8474/ where would i add those two lines of text ??01:00
nine09did i ever01:00
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lufisnine09: you're just not model material :(01:00
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nine09:P01:00
ardchoilleAkuma_: ? what does php do without apache?01:00
mnk0lozl01:01
jamiehdvsftpd is already the newest version.01:01
mnk0pic plz01:01
erUSULgodofredo07: yes01:01
calvinosaurushi all, can anyone tell me how to get a dual monitor display working?01:01
leoIserverdoesnt seem to tell me anything about the filename Xenguy01:01
Akuma_ardchoille: it processes files01:01
leoIserverclose though01:01
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godofredo07erUSUL, where would i add the text?01:01
GhostHello, i just installed ubuntu on my comptuer (virtural machiene), and it is running root@, what do i need to do to start?01:02
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godofredo07erUSUL, i'm looking at it right now ...01:02
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Akuma_ardchoille: i just want to develpe a page or two real quick, there's no need to install apache for that01:02
funestoHey guys.. Im trying to install the 64-bit version of Edgy with the Alternate CD and its basically telling me that i need to load drivers for my cdrom from a floppy... is there a place i could find linux drivers other than the manufacturer website?01:02
erUSULgodofredo07: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8475/01:02
ardchoilleAkuma_: Ah, ok01:02
XenguyleoIserver: just an idea - use it if it works :-)01:02
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Cycodoes anyone know of a way to troubleshoot init scripts, i am running edgy and my startup is getting hung at rc.local....If I hit enter it goes directly to login which is fine but just looking to solve this annoyance01:03
jamiehdI've tried to install proftpd, but it can't find the package01:03
Cycoi have sysv-rc-config and have disabled usplash amongst others and had no problems, only started hanging when i took quiet out of grub entry so i can see startup01:03
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godofredo07erUSUL, oh shasta! I have it pasted in...but , its read only!01:03
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godofredo07erUSUL, what should i do!!01:04
erUSULCyco: take a look at what you have  in /etc/rc.local (it should be mainly empty)01:04
bdragonmslanyone know of a good channel for help with WoW??01:04
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PokerFacePenguinCyco: is something prompting you for a password?01:04
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Cycoyes if i hit enter after rc.local (login prompt)01:04
erUSULgodofredo07: edit it with 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local'01:04
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Cycoonly entry in rc.local is exit 0 which is correct01:05
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mnk0ok, so .. i started a xgl session after setup, and the whole cube is white01:05
godofredo07erUSUL, done now what?01:06
erUSULCyco: maybe rc.local is not to blame... the new init system does thins in paralell...01:06
godofredo07erUSUL, pray and restart?01:06
Cycothis is what i assumed01:06
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erUSULgodofredo07: have you added the lines of the script?01:06
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godofredo07erUSUL, yep and i saved it01:06
jamiehdCan anyone help me with my server problem:01:06
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Cycobecause it is odd, during running through scripts i see a prompt, then dissapears and winbind, etc etc loads and then hangs at rc.local01:07
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jamiehdproftpd won't install01:07
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erUSULgodofredo07: sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start01:07
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godofredo07erUSUL, done...now what (it said ok)01:07
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erUSULgodofredo07: it is done... those two lines will be run everytime the system starts01:08
godofredo07erUSUL, YOU ARE THE BEST!01:08
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godofredo07erUSUL, how long have you been using ubuntu?01:09
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tonyyarussoWhat would you recommend for conserving bandwidth on dialup, things like caching, image accelleration, etc.?01:09
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CycoerUSUL here is another question, I will research the init problem later as it poses no problems.  In sysv-rc-conf why are there still init scripts listed for packages that have been purged and are not in /etc/rcx.d01:09
erUSULgodofredo07: since a 4.10 warty beta01:09
godofredo07erUSUL, you are a vet!01:09
cr4z3di have a question about customizing the ubuntu i guess it's the splash screen? after i login the brown background and ubuntu bar that comes up and shows what's loading. how do i change that?01:09
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erUSULCyco: dunno sorry :(01:10
godofredo07erUSUL, is this closely tied to your career or something?01:10
godofredo07erUSUL, how do you have time?01:10
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erUSULgodofredo07: no, only a hobby01:10
tonyyarusso!splash | cr4z3d01:10
ubotucr4z3d: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.01:10
erUSULgodofredo07: time for what?01:10
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Shaba2Hello folks01:10
godofredo07erUSUL, all the commands...and tweaking and messing around!01:10
CycoerUSUL - THERE IS ALWAYS TIME FOR LINUX!01:10
Shaba2Does ipcop com with 6.10?01:11
godofredo07erUSUL, I like computers and love messing with them...I just hope someday I can remember commands off the top of my head like you guys!01:11
calvinosaurushow do I set up a second monitor?01:11
godofredo07erUSUL, well, I'll get out of your way :)01:12
jamiehdSorry to keep on bugging you, but is there anyone who can help me with my ftp problem?01:12
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godofredo07erUSUL, there are more people that need your help!01:12
atomikucan I apt-get install beryl?01:12
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kupesoftWhat's the good C ide other than eclipse?01:12
Cycoyes atomiku01:12
erUSULgodofredo07: well i can use man while you are not looking ;)01:12
atomikuCant find the specific package name but im sure ive done it before01:12
maartenWonderful :) first Kubuntu installation, and no questions as of so far.... got my SMB working, got FTP server working, and my OpenTTD server has been playing with gamers since the start. (Used to run that on Windows)01:12
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Cycodeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list01:13
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Shaba2gordonjcp I have been building comps for 27 years01:13
erUSULShaba2: afaik ipcop is distribution in it's own right01:13
Shaba2and still do not remember some commands off the top of my head01:13
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Shaba2thanks erUSUL01:13
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Shaba2I am not to linux/unix/*ix01:13
yomm  maarten : good !01:14
Cycodeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list (ATOMIKU for BERYL)01:14
atomikuthanks01:14
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calvinosaurusI dunno if you've seen Idiocracy before (it's a good movie -  "s'got electrolytes") but ya see, the problem is that I'm at my friend's place and I want to play it on their badass hdtv from my laptop01:15
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beanheadhaha01:15
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beanheadbecause it's what plants crave01:15
calvinosaurusexactly01:15
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neonum6nighty night...I'm going to sleep01:15
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DigitalNinjaWe are trying to build a test network for hacking. Just to play around. Can someone give me info on hacking into a Windows XP or Vista box? We are using nubuntu as our hacking OS.01:16
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ljlolelI have a .sty package file for latex.  How do I install it?01:16
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maartenFor some reason I am getting.... well, OTHER thoughts when I see the word "latex".01:17
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derekjwwHello01:18
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lufisderekjww: hi01:18
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Urbanmage!rules01:18
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:18
derekjwwI have my Ubuntu drapper installed, how do I upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy01:18
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lufisderekjww: feisty will be released soon. are you sure you don't want to wait?01:19
derekjwwI can01:19
lufisderekjww: it'll be out in april i think01:19
ljlolelhe has to install edgy first anyway01:19
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lufisljlolel: really? i didn't know that01:19
yommwhy ?01:19
derekjwwbut what do I have to do to upgrade anyways?01:20
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lufisderekjww: gksudo update-manager -d01:20
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ljloleldependency progressions... I've had trouble01:21
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derekjwwthere is nothing in the window?01:21
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lufisderekjww: nothing at all?01:21
yommI see !01:21
derekjwwnothing01:21
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mikemacdhey, can someone help me install the correct version of ubuntu on my system to get my beryl?01:22
metalheddWhats with my fstab? lol.01:22
metalheddi hope thats a common question.01:22
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DigitalNinjaCan one use Linux to hack into a Windows box? I've got nubuntu01:22
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mjrof course you can01:22
ClarKentanyone have a link to a good Mutt tutorial for edgy?01:22
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yommDigitalninja : of course you can , it's just an complex subject01:23
derekjwwwell?01:23
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calvinosaurusyou're going to need alluminum cds and a strong arm01:23
lufisDigitalNinja: no one here is going to help you be malicious01:23
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metalheddwhy are my devices looking like this in fstab? UUID=0c4c3703-6006-4be1-a1a3-4c52658fb35801:23
mikemacdhey, can someone help me install the correct version of ubuntu on my system to get my beryl?01:23
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lufisderekjww: hold on01:23
krieli just installed 6.10 onto my laptop and everything works fine except sound. yes, everything is unmuted. can anyone help me? I think I might have found a solution, a patch on ALSA's bug website, but I'm not experienced enough in anything to use that without help.01:23
DigitalNinjayomm: I was at a tech expo where they had a vista box setup for hacking into. The goal was to find the file with some text in it and tell the judge what it is.01:23
derekjwwlufis: ok01:23
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DigitalNinjayomm: I didn't try to hack in but I was later told that it wasn't that hard to get in.01:24
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DigitalNinjayomm: Do you know of any websites with this kind of info.01:24
lufisderekjww: gksudo update-manager -d01:24
lufisderekjww: whoops01:24
erUSUL!sound > kriel01:24
mikemacd!install01:24
imc_Firestarter question - how can I set it to protect on use of ppp0, not eth001:24
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues01:24
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lufisderekjww: gksu update-manager -c 01:25
derekjwwubotu: who's that for?01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about who's that for? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
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yommDigitalninja : there are various way to test network security ,and network vulnerablities ,there is no short answer01:25
jamiehdhow do I shut down using the teminal?01:25
foormeasudo init 001:26
erUSULjamiehd: shutdown -h now01:26
jlgaddisDon't feed the script kiddies.01:26
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DigitalNinjayomm: True! I've looked at nubuntu which comes with a lot of security tools. Most of them require a lot of reading and testing just to get them to work.01:26
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derekjwwit still doesn't work01:26
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DigitalNinjayomm: I was hoping someone in here could point me to a website with some info.01:26
Damewhat partition manager ubuntu use when u are installing it?01:26
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lufisderekjww: well i don't know. look at this http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html01:26
jlgaddisDigitalNinja: http://www.google.com/01:27
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jamiehdThanks erUSUL01:27
andreshello01:27
DigitalNinjajlgaddis: I'm searching01:27
derekjwwI've already looked at this page01:27
lufishi andres01:27
metalheddcan someone please explain how this UUID thing works in fstab? wats the deal? and for the record. I hate it already. lol01:27
imc_Firestarter question - how can I set it to protect on use of ppp0, not eth001:27
dabidecan someone recommend a FTP server i can use on my ubuntu server 6.10 ?01:27
ljlolelI have a .sty package file for latex.  How do I install it?01:27
yommDigiNinja : a bib of googling should give you you plenty of results01:27
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DigitalNinjajlgaddis: Maybe I need to get a trial copy of vista and do some scaning01:27
andres hey , i tried to install ubuntu with the live cd , so i put the live cd in my cd room and i restarted my computer , after thata the live cd showed me some options ! , i started "stard or install" after that was loading and later my screen turn black, and nothing happened , why ?01:27
jlgaddismetalhedd: Each partition on your system is given a UUID.  It uses that instead of, say, /dev/sda4 to refer to the partition.01:28
lufisandres: which version?01:28
metalheddhow do i find out what the UUIDs are for all of my partitions?01:28
andresversion 6.06 lts!01:28
erUSULmetalhedd: due to changes in the linux kernel ata drivers now hard disk devices will have to be adreesed by uuid01:28
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n-iCeHow can I install beryl in xubunto01:28
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mikemacdI'm using an ATI video card, and I need to install Ubuntu (and then Beryl) onto my computer, without a CD.  Can someone help?01:28
DigitalNinjaI have used nessus. Well, I was able to get it up and running. I scanned my own domain. That was about it01:28
lufisandres: i've had problems with booting from edgy. you can try removing "splash" from the grub menu and booting that way. it worked for me01:28
erUSULmetalhedd: to smooth the transition01:28
n-iCeIn01:28
n-iCexfce01:28
jlgaddismetalhedd: "e2label"01:29
metalheddjlgaddis: thanks.01:29
andresok , i'll try01:29
erUSULmetalhedd: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/01:29
Dame!parted01:29
ubotuparted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB01:29
lufisandres: if you need any help doing that jut ask01:29
lufisjust01:29
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erUSULmetalhedd: blkid too01:29
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andrescan i install the beryl without install ubuntu , only running with the live cd?01:29
Dame!partitons01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partitons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
metalheddjlgaddis: I can use e2label to assign a better UUID than that big long thing?01:30
Dame!partiton01:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partiton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
mikemacdIs there a way to access my files from the Windows XP part of my computer when I'm running Ubuntu?01:30
lufisandres: maybe, but you wouldn't want to01:30
jlgaddis!partition | Dame01:30
andreshmm01:30
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lufisandres: the livecd loads itself into memory... you're stressing it as it is without all the eyecandy01:30
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metalheddjlgaddis: can I specify a label in fstab instead of a UUID?01:31
billygreetings01:31
lufismikemacd: there are ext* drivers for windows... google "ext3 windows"01:31
lufisor ext201:31
andresi've just get the live cd yesterday in a conference so i'm trying !01:31
lufisandres: ah01:31
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metalhedderUSUL: can I specify only a label in the fstab or does there need to be a uuid?01:32
imc_So WHY is something listening on port 139 out of the box with Ubuntu edgy and how can I kill it?01:32
imc_So WHY is something listening on port 139 out of the box with Ubuntu edgy and how can I kill it?01:32
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erUSULmetalhedd: afaik you can use a label01:32
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erUSULimc_: samba?01:32
mikemacdlufis01:32
mikemacdwhat do i need drivers for?01:32
imc_erUSUL, prolly, but why out of the box, without me turning it on?01:32
dustinshould i upgrade to edgy in order to use my palm?01:32
lufismikemacd: oh, whoops, i misunderstood01:33
AozakiQuestion about the language support: I have some Japanese music files, in the file browser I can read it just fine but when I load the files in to xmms or any other music program, it displays as boxes. Anyone know why?01:33
Cycolufis ext3 for windows have you gotten it to work with resier?01:33
metalhedderUSUL: one more q. can I assign labels to ntfs and fat partitions as well?01:33
lufismikemacd: you'll need ntfs-3g for read/write support01:33
Cycoreiser?01:33
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lufisCyco: i don't use windows :P01:33
metalheddthis is a pain.. I have a lot of partitions to mount.01:33
erUSULmetalhedd: dunno01:33
Cycolol my wife needs it :(01:33
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lufisCyco: have no idea. try googling around01:33
imc_OR rather, How can I make it so that Samba server is not on unless I ask it to be, and not accepting incoming connections?01:33
lufis!ntfs-3g | mikemacd01:34
ubotumikemacd: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:34
Cycowill do  - - said it can, but i have not successfully achieved it....01:34
yommdoes windows ext2/3 even support reiserfs  ?? ( hence the name .. )01:34
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rbilimc_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop01:35
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Cycoyomm no it doesnt, but their is a driver that supports ext3 and mounts your linuxfs as "drives"01:35
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imc_rbil - I know how to do that, thanks. I'd like to stop it from starting on startup in the first place01:35
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yommCyco : I know , I'm using ext3 on my xp , but reiserfs is a different fs so ;a different driver , right ?01:36
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lufisyomm: i would assume so01:37
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yommok just to make clear :)01:37
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Cycoya but reiser is a relative and is suppposed to work, i will investigate it01:37
rbilimc_: remove the softlink S20samba from /etc/rc5.d01:37
lufisyomm: i used an ext2 driver i think for accessing a few files back when i dualbooted. never had an issue with it, but reiserfs is a whole different filesystem01:37
andres!topic01:38
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jlgaddisHeh, I imagine work on reiserfs has slowed down tremendously in the last few months, eh?  =)01:38
erUSULimc_: sudo update-rc.d -f samba remove01:38
dustinhey i get this error01:38
imc_thanks erSUL01:38
dustinpi_bind error: /dev/pilot Too many levels of symbolic links01:38
dabidewhy do i get only a transfer speed of ~800kb/s when accessing files on my ubuntu server via ftp? also transfers via samba fileshare are slow, ive got a 10/100 nic installed01:38
lufis<obligatory joke> what a filesystem, though, killer performance!</obligatory joke>01:38
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dabidei'm accessing the server via wlan in the local network01:39
yommMy xp crashed badly on one installation of the ext3 drivers , the other went fine01:39
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Lunar_Lampdabide, that sounds like a fast connection...01:39
crisi need help with wine plz01:39
jlgaddisdabide: Heh, I get faster than that from the Internet.01:39
andresis there some ubuntu channels in spanish ?01:39
yommLunar mb hes on lan01:39
billyI'd like to install a Real Player plugin to Firefox, but I've noticed on UbuntuForums that lots of folks are having difficulty.  Is there an "easy way" to get it going, or maybe someone knows of an easy to follow howto?01:39
lufiscris: what's the issue?01:40
erUSUL!es > andres01:40
dabideLunar_Lamp: forgot to mention that i'm connected to the server via wlan locally01:40
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andresthanks01:40
sureshothello all01:40
lufishi sureshot01:40
erUSULandres: sin problema ;)01:40
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sureshotjust came back to ubuntu01:40
tom_hey everyone, i'm trying to install a belkin wireless pci card, taht I'm pretty sure works out of the box with ubuntu. could any one help?01:41
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sureshotdoes anyone know if vmplayer will run the vms operating system for vax01:42
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meik_hallo01:43
lufishi meik_01:43
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mike-dbI'm thinking about installing ubuntu now do I need windows xp duel booted in order to run Wine?01:43
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dabidea more detailed explanation of my problem: the server is connected trough ethernet with the router, and i'm connected to the router via wlan (the connectivity is very good), but when i send/fetch files to/from the server (via samba/windows network neighborhood, via ssh file transfer, or via ftp) i only get rather slow speeds, about 800kb/s with fpt and about 1000kb/s with ssh file transfer, any clues?01:44
lufismike-db: wine runs independent of windows, though it can use some of windows' libraries iirc01:44
Xenguymike-db: no01:44
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nrdb_mike-db: wine doesn't need a windows install to work01:44
mike-dbSo I don't need windows? Perfect! I only want to play WoW anyway.01:44
erUSULsureshot: vmware is not an emulator afaics01:45
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joeyk_dabide, your never gonna have exremly fast speeds using wlan01:45
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krielerUSUL: followed the troubleshooting on the website you gave me. still no sound, even though everything in the software says i should.01:45
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nrdb_mike-db: I don't know about WoW, but I run other programs, with no windows anywhere.01:45
sureshotwell it runs other ops just thought i would ask guess i am stuck with simh01:45
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K3nthey guys, i installed emerald and beryl and now i dont have any frames on my windows01:45
sureshotthank erusul01:46
dabidejoeyk_: but it should definetly be faster than 800kb/s, shouldn't it?01:46
yommI have set up my fstab to include 3 samba shares on my LAN ,when I do "sudo mount -a" they mount fine , but they won't mount after a reboot , any hints ?01:46
lufisK3nt: run "metacity" in the meantime01:46
K3ntok01:46
nrdb_I am having a small problem with OpenOffice, when I mis-spell a word it isn't putting the red line under it, I think I have it enabled properly, can some help please ?01:46
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K3ntalright im back with windows01:46
lufisK3nt: ;)01:46
jlgaddisyomm: Sounds like you missed an option in /etc/fstab.01:46
K3ntwith the frames for windows in ubuntu i mean01:46
breadstichi guys, i was wondering if any of you could recommend something to download  and install to make ubuntu look all pretty like the latest suse with a 3d desktop environment?01:46
K3ntbut does anybody know how to use the themese from emeral? and make them work?01:46
yommjlgaddis : you want to take a look at it ?01:47
maartenhmmmm.... I messed something up. I was able to browse to my windows box with Konqurer, but now it says that the The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. I tried stopping/starting the avahi-daemon, but it fails to stop. Any ideas?01:47
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joeyk_depends on your wlan setup, if your connected a/b/g and signal strength..01:47
K3ntbreadstic: i would say beryl and emerald if i could get them to work01:47
breadsticcool, ok, i'll have a look at some screenshots, thnx01:48
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AaronMTanyone get wireless working on an inspiron 150101:48
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n-iCehow can i move a icon to my desktop ?01:48
n-iCeif is in the panel01:48
lufis-brbfudzn-iCe: drag it?01:48
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mike-dbSo wine works just as fine with kubuntu?01:49
n-iCedoesn't work01:49
n-iCexubuntu01:49
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IndyGunFreakn-iCe: wine works with Ubuntu01:49
n-iCewine ?01:49
n-iCewhat's that?01:49
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IndyGunFreakoh, i thought you were talking to mike-db about wine01:49
pepo#/join espiral01:50
calvinosaurusn-iCe: wine runs programs designed to run in windows01:50
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calvinosauruserr allows you to run01:50
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: you're tryin to add an icon to your desktop.. where's the icon at, in your menu?01:50
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higiravenhi01:50
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higiravenI am going to buy a laptop. What is the best graphics card for linux: nvidia or intel?01:51
n-iCeYeah IndyGunFreak01:51
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billyhigiraven, i have an intel and everything works fine.01:51
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higiraven3d rendering and so works out of the box, right?01:52
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: hang on a sec, i know its different.. pretty sure its not just drag and drop.01:52
billyhigiraven, alta needed a little tweaking, though.  real simple though.01:52
yharrowdoes anyone know how I can order a very large number of cds for my team?01:52
higiravenuhm ok thanks01:52
sureshothey all i forgot to add the dos petition in my install how do i mount it and have it mount automaticly each time i boot01:52
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  isn't , thank you.01:52
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calvinosaurushigraven: i just picked up a gazelle series laptop from system 7601:52
mytrueheroI don't seem to be able to play DVDs with Ubuntu. I followed the steps in the starter guide, but they didn't work for me. Would anyone mind helping me figure this out?01:52
billyhigiraven, sorry.  so far no Beryl.01:52
calvinosaurusgot it a few days ago01:52
rbilK3nt: do u have colour depth in xorg.conf set to 24?01:53
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higiravenbilly I think Beryl works fine01:53
omaralguien habla espaol???????01:53
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n-iCeomar,  yo01:53
higiravensi, ve a #ubuntu-es01:53
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billyhigiraven, maybe for you, but not for me.  Probly b/c I suck though.  I'm a total newb.01:53
omarorale gracias01:53
K3ntrbil: im not sure01:53
erUSUL!es | omar01:53
omarnecesito ayuda01:53
ubotuomar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:53
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higiravenuhm ok01:53
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erUSULomar: /join #ubuntu-es01:54
omarweno mmmm como instalo el amsn?01:54
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rbilK3nt: check it and if it's not, change it to 2401:54
higiravensudo apt-get install amsn01:54
K3ntrbil: how can i check it?01:54
jin!dvd01:54
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:54
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rbilK3nt: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:54
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n-iCeomar,  te recomiendo el kopete01:54
n-iCeme gusta ms01:54
omarok cual es el comando completo01:55
jin!comix01:55
ubotucomix: GTK Comic Book Viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 146 kB, installed size 956 kB01:55
higiraven!kopete01:55
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB01:55
n-iCeomar,  prueba sumo apt-get install kopete01:55
K3ntrbil: ok i see it01:55
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maartenhmmmm.... I messed something up. I was able to browse to my windows box with Konqurer, but now it says that the The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. I tried stopping/starting the avahi-daemon, but it fails to stop. Any ideas?01:55
ubuntuHi again... I have a bit of a memory problem here.. What is the command that lets me configure my screens and drivers, mouse and keyboard?01:55
omarok grax y despues d eso q hago?01:55
n-iCeomar,  ya se instala y lo jalas01:55
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omarorale gracias01:55
K3ntrbil: doesnt say anything about color depth01:55
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sureshothow do i mount a dos petition and have it mount automaticly each time i boot01:56
rbilK3nt: DefaultDepth ?01:56
billyubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ??01:56
erUSULomar: n-iCe higiraven creo que deberais moveros a #ubuntu-es este canal es ingls01:56
higiravenI know01:56
n-iCeme too01:56
higiravenim speaking english01:56
erUSUL!ntfs > sureshot01:56
n-iCesorry01:56
calvinosaurusyo no habla espanol.01:56
billyubuntu, ACTUALLY sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:57
omarno se pudo!!!!!!01:57
higiravenomar #ubuntu-es01:57
K3ntrbil: can we pm? its like a storm in here01:57
sureshotthanks erUSUL i will read that01:57
omarok ok grax01:57
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ubuntuHm...01:57
AozakiQuestion about the language support: I have some Japanese music files, in the file browser I can read it just fine but when I load the files in to xmms or any other music program, it displays as boxes. Anyone know why?01:57
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: what app you trying to add to your desktop.01:57
IndyGunFreaki can't remember for the life of me how to do it.01:57
rbilK3nt: pm me if u like01:57
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  swiftfox01:57
calvinosauruslol01:57
jin!rss01:57
techiegood evening. I downloaded some files from "amule" and I see them but do not know how to access them can anybody help?01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:57
jin!rssfeeds01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rssfeeds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
techiethese files are on pdf01:58
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jinwhat to use to read rss feeds?01:58
n2obanyone know a good calendar app?01:58
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higiravenyou can use firefox..01:58
n-iCeor add it to the panel IndyGunFreak  ?01:58
Urbanmagejin: firefox or thunderbird?01:58
jinerm, isn't firefox just a browser?01:58
Xenguyjin: I use Firefox's 'sage' extension.01:58
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: doesn't seem there's a short way to do either one01:58
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IndyGunFreakjin: yes..01:58
Lr5!dual monitor01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
higiravenerm you can use firefox to reed rss feeds01:58
Lr5aww01:58
techiehigiraven yes I know but the issue is the same, how do I read them?01:59
AaronMTdomi arigato mr uboto01:59
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tj239get an extension to read rss in firefox01:59
higiravenyou dont need an extension01:59
metalheddmy laptops sound card requires that I pass 'model=hp' to the kernel module.. how can I do this in ubuntu?01:59
higiravenfirefox reads rss natively01:59
n-iCethen ? IndyGunFreak  no idea?01:59
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: you might try asking in #xubuntu  I know I done it, i just can't remember exactly how.01:59
calvinosaurusthanks, Lr502:00
lufis-brbfudzmetalhedd: in grub, press esc to enter its menu. select the default, then press "e" to edit. edit the longest line and add "model=hp"02:00
techiecan anybody help. I see downloaded files from amule but do not know where they are or how to access them/read them. can anybody help?02:00
gbv22guys, i have a question regarding booting Ubuntu off USB. If u have a 2Gb usb flash drive, can I boot ubuntu off the USB and avail of all features? if so. can someone point me to where I can find instructions to do this? thanks02:00
Lr5calvinosaurus: what, where?02:00
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jinwow02:01
jinfirefox is awsome!02:01
lufis-brbfudzmetalhedd: er, maybe that would work02:01
lufis-brbfudzi dunno. try it02:01
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techiehow does firefox compare to amule?02:01
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higiravenfirefox is a web browser and amule is a p2p client02:01
calvinosaurusLr5: oh, i thought you told the bot to help me02:01
breadstici thought amule was a p2p prog02:01
metalheddlufis-brbfudz: on other distros there was a config file i had to adit for alsa.  i've never had to touch grub for it before.02:01
gbv22guys, i have a question regarding booting Ubuntu off USB. If u have a 2Gb usb flash drive, can I boot ubuntu off the USB and avail of all features? if so. can someone point me to where I can find instructions to do this? thanks02:01
lufis-brbfudzmetalhedd: ah, okay then., nevermind my advice02:02
techieduhs,,, i use firefox all the time!02:02
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calvinosaurusLr5: are you trying to get a second monitor working too?02:02
techieyes you are right. is great02:02
higiraven!usb02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
peija-kasubuntu ops: <thedcm> I'm going to come back later and flood the ubuntu channels with about 10 people02:02
peija-kashes at it again02:02
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Lr5calvinosaurus: yah, with an old thinkpad t2102:02
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tonyyarussoI'm looking for ways to limit bandwidth usage on dialup connections, and need tips.  Caching of files, DNS info, etc, whatever?02:02
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: here it is..... right click your desktop, Name---- Firefox... where it says, Command.. Firefox.  then choose an icon for it.02:02
K3ntrbil: i changed it to 24 from 1602:02
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K3ntdidnt do anything02:02
jinthe problem with firefox is, It only display the titles and not the description..02:02
jin!rssreader02:02
billyabout how long does it take ShipIt to mail out Ubuntu CD's?02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rssreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
rbilK3nt: and u restarted gdm?02:02
peija-kasubuntu ops: <thedcm> I already have them organized <thedcm> ;)02:02
K3ntgdm?02:03
peija-kasdo something about that guy :/02:03
rbilgui desktop02:03
tonyyarussopeija-kas: #ubuntu-ops please02:03
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Bantrothschlansker02:03
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K3ntnope is that ctrl-baclspace02:03
peija-kas<thedcm> pfred1: ubuntu supports multiculturalism02:03
rbilK3nt: yes, that's one way02:03
K3ntlol that doesnt do anything02:03
erUSULtonyyarusso: afaik in ubuntu bind is instaled by default as dns caching server you can use pdnsd too02:03
K3ntwhat if i just restarted ubuntu02:03
tonyyarussoerUSUL: thanks02:04
Lr5!Xinerama02:04
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:04
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: did that work?02:04
Lr5:o02:04
rbilK3nt: ctrl-alt-backspace02:04
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Lr5!DualHead02:04
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama02:04
calvinosaurusLr5: I was searching google earlier and I found that what needs to be done is to edit the xorg-config file. but I was having trouble finding a program that could do that automatically02:04
K3ntrbil: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts all of ubuntu02:04
K3nt?02:04
rbilK3nt: no just restarts x server02:04
^Albe^hi to all, sry the fast question: is there a chance to see vlc "always on top"? :(02:05
peija-kask3nt yep it restarts X02:05
Urbanmagejin: how are you opening the rss link?  there should be an icon at the end of the address bar that you can click on to add the feed, after that you can follow the rss links to the article02:05
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lufis-brbfudz^Albe^: should be an option to do that when clicking on the window border's button02:05
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lufis-brbfudzon the left side02:05
K3ntrbil: ok that worked02:05
K3nti think02:05
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billy^Albe^, right click on the window title panel, click "on top"02:05
tj239ctrl alt backspace doesn't go check through the bios02:05
omegabetaQuestion : where do I get Qt 3.3 and < 4.0 header libraries?02:05
HymnToLife[] omegabeta, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev02:06
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omegabetaHymnToLife[] : cheers02:06
lufis-brbfudzomegabeta: search synaptic for "qt" or "libqt"02:06
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tj239pinky promise02:06
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^Albe^thx not so bad that one :) , is there a chance to set the always on top option (for a smaller window)?02:07
sureshothey all just a thought... it is good to be back with a help channel that really helpful the other one i was on was not friendly02:07
billy^Albe^, should work the same way.02:07
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billy^Albe^, just resize the window manually.02:07
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Tairomanyone how the time (or inclination) to go into a private chat to help a new user on trying to get things running?02:07
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billyTairom, what kind of probs you having?02:08
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Tairomlol where to start. 1) ati x1650 (known issue) 2) VPC0702:08
omegabetacrap, JUST as my bandwith cap is back.. =/ oh well, got all the themes.. just need the libary headers.. thanks guys02:08
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billyTairom, I wish I could help, but I have no experience with those.02:08
^Albe^the windows seems always "behind"02:09
Tairomnp thanks for the willingness anyway02:09
lufis-brbfudzomegabeta: bandwidth cap? ick. is it your isp's doing?02:09
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sureshotomegabeta do you have huges net yet02:09
sureshotomegabeta do you have huges net yet not yet but now02:09
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techieanybody here that has experience with showing files on the desktop? I think a folder must be made visible so that I can see the downloaded files. Can anybody help?02:09
billy^Albe^, when you right-click on the window's border, is "on top" checked?02:09
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yipeI can't log into edgy, it says the system is going to shut down in one minute02:09
omegabetalufis-brbfudz: ye, per month I get 60 gig, 20 on peek and 40 of peek02:10
omegabetaoffpeek being between 2am and 12pm02:10
omegabetaAustralia sp02:10
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yipeexcept that it never does shutdown, it just sits there02:10
omegabetaisp are crap02:10
techieanybody knows which command to use for this?02:10
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lufis-brbfudzomegabeta: ah... i've had trouble with some isps being absurdly greedy with bandwidth. they sell you unlimited access and then act all surprised when you actually use it! pssh02:10
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^Albe^great!02:10
Tairomdoes anyone have some experence with virtual pc 07?02:10
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^Albe^sry the newbie question :P02:10
sureshoti have huges net like a 160 meg at a time then wait an hure for about another 15 minutes02:11
^Albe^THX!!02:11
omegabetalufis-brbfudz: Yep, and then decide that you have breached their "Fair use policy"02:11
maartenhmmm... I can access my linux machine from windows, I can access my windows machine from other windows machines, but I cannot mount smb shares on my linux box. Says access denied, and the shares are all public. I created userid's on windows but still no go.02:11
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nykitoHi to all02:11
yipeanyone have a clue how I can trick edgy into not thinking it's going to shutdown anymore?02:11
billy^Albe^, it's no problem.  I myself have newb-questions flowing from all ends. ;)02:11
^Albe^:) ;) thx02:11
nykitoI'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy02:11
sureshothate that fap it hits at the wrong time... that is why i cant dl elf02:11
billynykito, you'll need a GOOD reason to do that.02:11
lufis-brbfudzbilly: get a towel02:11
nykitobut I've the error /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet02:11
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SkrotHi. Is there a easy way to delete files when they're older than X days?02:12
nykitowarnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)02:12
K3ntocould somebeody help me get my wireless working again? i uninstalled some nvidia things a short while ago, and after reboot, my wireless crapped out :(02:12
billylufis-brbfudz: I wear a diaper.02:12
lufis-brbfudzbilly: good idea ;)02:12
nykitowhy billy?02:12
lufis-brbfudzrofdl02:12
lufis-brbfudzrofl*02:12
billynykito, i'm looking for the link.  just a sec.02:12
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IndyGunFreaknykito: sometimes its easier to do a clean install.02:12
sureshotwell off to configure simh and load the 14 disks of open vms see ya all later02:12
elkbuntuomegabeta, australian english is permitted in #ubuntu-au ;)02:12
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jamiehdHi02:12
nykitoyou mean install edgy directly?02:13
erUSULK3nto: maybe it is an atheros card and you uninstaled restricted modules ??02:13
omegabetaelkbuntu: :P)02:13
jamiehdAnyone know how I can set up ftp, so I can upload to my server02:13
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nykitoIndyGunFreak: ?02:13
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jamiehdI have installed the server version of ubuntu02:13
K3ntoi did uninstall things from restricted modules. ill check02:13
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AaronMT.clear02:13
crishave someone tried the DirectFB window manager?02:13
IndyGunFreaknykito: i've never had luck upgrading Linux OSs(or M$ OS's for that matter).. always backup and do a clean install if you ask me.02:13
omegabetachecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!02:14
IndyGunFreakupgrades always seem to run slow02:14
omegabetaOdd, they are both installed02:14
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nykitoFirst time I've upgraded from dapper to edgy there were no problems02:14
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IndyGunFreaknykito: well when why are you trying to upgrade again?02:14
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billynykito, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286209&highlight=thinking+of+upgrading02:15
Tairomok how about this, in a virtual enviro, would 6.06 or 6.10 be better. have read some posts that 6.10 and vpc arent playing nice02:15
nykitothank you billy02:15
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billynykito, not telling you not to.  but it's worth considering.  if u got everything working with Dapper, stick with it.02:16
josh_hey!02:16
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josh_!flash02:16
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ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:16
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IndyGunFreakbilly:  Thats good advice.., I personally hate upgrading OS's,02:17
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IndyGunFreaknever works02:17
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billyIndyGunFreak, thanks.  I hate seeing someone making things harder on themselves.02:17
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IndyGunFreakbilly:  isn't that the truth02:18
wesleypanis there anyone that could help me with ndiswrapper?02:18
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erUSULIndyGunFreak: i have upgraded my ubuntu since warty beta all the way to edgy (and will do to feisty) without problems and without reinstalling02:18
nykitobut, anyway, what do you think about the error?02:18
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IndyGunFreakerUSUL: i'm not saying its impossible, its just never went right with me02:19
IndyGunFreakeither got some wierd error, or it was slow, etc.02:19
billyerUSUL, then that probably makes you the minority.02:19
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wesleypanwhy is it that i get a (you don't have permission)box..im the admin!02:19
K3nthey guys i got a problem02:19
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rbilbilly, i'm part of the minority also :-), but a 7 hour upgrade isn't alot of fun02:20
HoffmannPhy folks, can anyone tell me what happend about wireless lan in edgy?02:20
K3nti installed two nvidia things thinking they would helomy wireless card, but i got a blue screen on startup02:20
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billyrbil, word.  ain't fun at all.  but why upgrade when there's no reason and Dapper will be supported for 2.5 more years?02:20
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K3ntnow i have no gui02:20
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jamiehd I found it very east02:20
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jamiehd*easy to upgrage02:20
rbilbilly, not suggesting anyone upgrade, just that it "worked for me" :-)02:21
K3ntsomething02:21
billyeven though I myself jumped into feisty first and then backtracked to Feisty.02:21
erUSULbilly: maybe but the beauty of linux and specially debian is that you don't have to reinstall02:21
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K3ntsomething in restricted-linux-modules02:21
Dr_willisunless you REALLY mess things up. :)02:21
erUSULbilly: as often as with other os's02:21
mptechwhat's the recommended method for installing a newer kernel on edgy?02:21
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Dr_willis!kernel02:21
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:21
thepactthepact02:21
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billyerUSUL, that's true.  i meant to say, I started with FEisty and backtracked to Edgy.02:21
thepactWhat is the Debian equilavent of the ll command?02:21
Dr_willisll ?02:22
Dr_williswhat ll command?02:22
thepactYea, show files and their permissions02:22
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HoffmannPwas one of the answeres for me?02:22
Dr_willisyou mean ls02:22
nykitoerUSUL: what do you think about the error I got?02:22
maartenany reason why connecting to a windows share would result in "access denied" (other PC is Vista), while I can access the Vista computer perfectly from my Windows Laptop, and sharing is completely open?02:22
thepactIs there an equivalent command in Ubuntu?02:22
K3nterUSUL: i installed a couple packes; the ones you said and my gui is gone. llil help :D02:22
thepactls doesn't show perms02:22
Dr_willisoften ll = an alias for 'ls -l'02:22
miguelhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii02:22
thepactah02:22
thepactthnx02:22
HoffmannPls -la ist the ll command02:22
Dr_willisthepact,  time to read the ls manual. :) and bash 10102:22
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mptechDr_willis, I'd rather not have to compile myself02:22
miguelhi02:22
mptechis it safe to borrow the kernel package from feisty?02:22
thepactYea, I'll get right on that02:23
billy!hi | miguel02:23
ubotumiguel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:23
Urbanmagemptech: I've had success with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:23
HoffmannPmaarten: why do you have vista at all? *sorry*02:23
thepactI am used to RH, where ll is a valid command02:23
thepactBut thanks02:23
Dr_willismptech,  the normal kernel updates are in  the repositories.. i dont think you can just get the fiesty kernel packages and use them02:23
migueli speak spanish02:23
crdlbthepact, you can alias it yourself02:23
maartenHoffmannP: That wasn't the question ;)02:23
miguelyo hablo espaol02:23
n-iCe!es miguel02:23
Dr_willis!es02:23
billyi played around with a Vista computer at the store.  my PC with Ubuntu is faster.02:23
ubotues: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB02:23
_-zar_-hy all I just installed ubuntu yesterday, Ive been using linux for 10 years and everything worked out of the box on my acer laptop so im still in shock02:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:23
Dr_willis_-zar_-,  even suspend?02:23
_-zar_-yup02:23
mptechDr_willis, according to packages.ubuntu.org, only 2.6.17 is available in edgy02:23
Dr_willis_-zar_-,  :) amazing02:23
Dr_willismptech,  sounds about right...02:24
mptech*packages.ubuntu.com02:24
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mptechDr_willis, I need 2.6.18 for my motherboard02:24
mptechor else networking won't work02:24
_-zar_-busy install gcc to compile some extra stuff02:24
migueli speak spanish02:24
miguelyo hablo em espaol02:24
Urbanmagescratch that, I didn't see the kernel stuff :P02:24
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metalheddhow can I pass an option to one of the alsa modules?02:24
crdlbIt's miguel de icaza!02:24
Dr_willismptech,  -  use the soruce then - or try feisty.02:24
mptech...02:24
billymptech, what motherboard do you have?02:25
K3ntok i think i know what to do: i need to uninstall those packages from the terminal02:25
alexcamilodoes anyone know how to get the installer in ubuntu 6.10 ppc to not start in 1024x768 resolution? the fix i have now is switching to tty2 and editing the xorg.conf file and then resetting X. i could probubly do the same when it's finally installed but the ubuntu startup screen is still messed up. is there a way to fix that?02:25
_-zar_-the kubuntu did not work very well though02:25
mptechbilly, asus p5b deluxe02:25
erUSULK3nt: what?? have you instaled the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com (the *.run file) ??02:25
billymptech, and Edgy won't install?02:25
mptechbilly, it installs02:25
mptechbut no networking support02:25
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billymptech, oh sorry to distract.02:25
miguelalguien habla espaol???????????????02:25
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tonyyarusso!es | miguel02:25
ubotumiguel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:25
billy!es | miguel02:25
K3nterUSUL: yes i had everything perfect except my wireless02:25
K3ntthen i installed a couple restricted packages02:26
K3ntand poof, no gui02:26
migueltank02:26
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_-zar_-I wish i had a nvida driver, Im stuck with a Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller02:26
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eck_-zar_-: that's better for you02:26
eckmuch better linux drivers02:26
_-zar_-well 3d accell worked out of the box02:27
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_-zar_-Ya but it uses software pixel shaders instead of hardware ones :(02:27
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erUSULK3nt: that's the problem :( the restricted-modules package has the atheros driver *and the nvidia driver when you instaled it you screwed the nvidia instalation. it is an ugly hack but maybe rerunning the *,run  file fixes the thing...02:27
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Dr_willis_-zar_-,  vi dosent care about pixle shaders... :)02:27
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eckyeah, but it works02:27
_-zar_-lmfao02:27
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cameronheathI need some help installing please.02:28
_-zar_-yea but my winshit partition to play video games does02:28
K3nterUSUL: so i type what into the terminal?02:28
Dr_willisGames are for the weak.02:28
eckcameronheath: with what exactly?02:28
cameronheathpartitiioning02:28
erUSULK3nt: if not you will have to uninstall the packages  restricted-modules package and reinstall nvidia and then install the atheros driver by hand02:28
Dr_willisive been playing RCTW:ET lately :) its a classic02:28
miguelmueranse todos los chuchaesumare hijos de puta y vayanse a la mierda todos los gringos putos hijitos de mama02:28
billyDr_willis, chess is the royal game.02:28
n-iCeHow can i change my keyboard configurations ?02:28
eckmiguel: that's not nice02:28
rotarisedHello! I've just installed ubuntu edgy eft. And when I click 'add/remove' in applications, it starts up ('starting installed and available applications'), and then disappears.02:29
K3nterUSUL: so what do i do in the terminal?02:29
erUSULK3nt: repeat what you did to install the nvidia driver02:29
firefly2442n-iCe: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard ?02:29
K3ntok02:29
n-iCefirefly2442,  xubuntu02:29
K3ntpwd02:29
wesleypanwhy can't a create new folders in the File System02:29
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cameronheatheck: with partitioning02:29
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firefly2442n-iCe: dunno sorry, I've never tried Xubuntu02:30
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eckcameronheath: with how to do it or what?02:30
_-zar_-Im still getting used to gnome after years of kdeing02:30
billywesleypan, did you `sudo mkdir ....` ?02:30
erUSULK3nt: something like 'sudo bash file.run'02:30
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wesleypanbilly:yeah02:30
wesleypanbut i'm not sure i did it correctly02:30
Pelo!restricted02:30
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wesleypanim trying to get the ndiswrapper installed02:30
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billywesleypan, copy/paste the exact command you're using into the forum.02:30
_-zar_-yay my gcc installed correctly02:30
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wesleypank02:31
cameronheatheck: yeah basicly, i have two options at the partition disks prompt02:31
eckcameronheath: you probably want the one where you resize partitions02:31
cameronheatheck: and they both say erase entire disk02:31
eckunless you have unpartitioned space on your hard drive02:31
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_-zar_- Couldn't find package kismet02:31
_-zar_-lol02:32
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cameronheathdont think so?02:32
eckisn't there a custom partition option?02:32
cameronheatheck: should i manually edit partition?02:32
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wesleypanbilly..it just wont work for me...the terminal i type has been different a lot02:32
wesleypani don't know what to do02:32
eckyes, do the manual option02:32
tur1hi can any one direct me to a site that show how to upgrade breezy to dapper?02:32
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wesleypanis there anyway to do it iwth the interface?02:32
Dr_willis!upgrade02:32
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erUSUL!upgrade > tur102:33
tur1thanks02:33
billywesleypan, try this as a test.  copy/paste `sudo mkdir /home/test`.  tell me what happens.02:33
yurimxpxmanDo any of you know why there's an xscreensaver-command command in Ubuntu 6.10 but /not/ in Xubuntu 6.10?02:33
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eckyurimxpxman: my guess is that the command is provided by gnome-screensaver02:33
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eckyurimxpxman: i think you can use dpkg -S to see which package provided a binary02:34
billywesleypan, i don't think so.  sudo command is required.  this has been a criticism of Ubuntu: that you have to drop a command line.  But it's cool with me.02:34
sureshothow do you fine a file that you know is on you ubuntu drive but search does not find it02:34
cameronheatheck: no  i have SCSTI1(0,0,0) (sda) 3.2 gb vmware wmware virtual s02:34
_`XeOn_how do i delete a folder in command line?02:34
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erUSUL_`XeOn_: rmdir02:34
eckcameronheath: is this in a virtual machine?02:34
eck_`XeOn_: rm -rf02:34
wesleypanbilly it asks for my password than it gives me the open line for the directory02:34
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wesleypan(im new with terminal :s)02:35
Dr_willis!bash02:35
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:35
cameronheatheck: yeah trying to setup using vmware fusion02:35
billywesleypan, that means it worked.02:35
wesleypanyeah02:35
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_`XeOn_rm -rf (folder) right?02:35
wesleypanso than i type in what i want the folder name to be?02:35
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eckcameronheath: if it is in a VM i think the whole disk really just means the whole virtual partition/filesystem02:35
rotarisedDoes anyone know why 'add/remove...' disappears after it appears to be starting up?02:35
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wesleypaninstead of tes?02:35
ShakaGoldSaintanyone can help me out with git?, i'm getting this when i try to run git clone....   : /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed02:35
eck_`XeOn_: that is correct02:35
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billywesleypan, exactly, be sure to put in the `/` as the first character for the new directory.02:35
_`XeOn_eck,  ty02:36
wesleypanok02:36
billywesleypan, that was pretty vague.02:36
cameronheatheck:  ehat exactley does that mean02:36
billywesleypan, i meant ...02:36
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ClarKentAnyone have a mutt tutorial site? I set up fetchmail, but they're not working together02:36
cameronheatheck: did vm already partition02:36
billywesleypan, be sure your command is in the form `sudo mkdir /this/is/an/example`.02:36
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wesleypanwill do billy02:36
eckcameronheath: well, my understanding is that if you install vmware you set aside some amount of space, and then in the virtual machine the disk really refers to that space, not your actual hdd02:36
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brandon_I am trying to compile the latest ALSA drivers and I have a question02:37
brandon_can anyone help me?02:37
wesleypanwhat should i put it into?...filesystem home what?02:37
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sureshothow would i fine ka655x.bin on my ubuntu drive02:37
Dr_williseck,  yep. virtual drives02:37
sanityxAnybody know a good app for converting and burning videos to DVD?02:37
eckClarKent: is fetchmail working?02:37
billywesleypan, what are you making the new directory for?02:37
cameronheatheck: so if i choose the wm virtual i wont lose anything on my hd in partitioning02:37
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wesleypanim making it for ndiswrapper02:37
ClarKenteck: yeah02:37
saltysureshot: 'sudo whereis ka655x.bin'02:38
wesleypanthe program i guess so that i can use my linksys drivers or at least have it work02:38
Pelosureshot, menu > places > search,  set system files as the location and add the show hidden files and folder option02:38
eckcameronheath: yes, i believe so. it should be apparent becasue your "hard drive" will be much smaller than the physical hdd02:38
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sureshotthanks all salty and pelo02:38
eckClarKent: well it has been a while since i used mutt, but i think you just have to set your folder or mbox or whatever to the path of where fetchmail is putting your stuff02:38
saltyyw02:38
billywesleypan, i'm not sure where to put that program.  Maybe Dr_willis can help you.02:38
_`XeOn_im trying to convert an .rpm and i get this output : Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package winex: postinst postrm prerm Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.02:38
billfurIs there a filesystem that is cross platform between windows and ubuntu that isn't going to require me to use multiple partitions for very large harddisks?02:38
eckClarKent: you shoudl be able to read the mail directly (e.g. with less) to verify that fetchmail is actually getting things02:38
_`XeOn_what to do?02:38
wesleypanis the dr in tha house?02:38
wesleypanDr. Willis?02:39
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ClarKenteck: thanks, i'll check that out02:39
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wesleypanargh.02:39
brandon_I'm trying to upgrade ALSA and I am using this in terminal02:39
brandon_sudo ./configuresudo ./configure  --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=<stac92xx> --with-oss=yes02:39
billywesleypan, did you see that message.  oh guess so.02:39
brandon_stac92xx is unknown it says02:39
rbil_`XeOn_: add the --scripts parameter02:39
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_-zar_-brb compiling kismet02:39
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brandon_what can I use instead?02:39
wesleypani have to use wirelless.02:39
Dr_willisif thats a firmware file. you could use locate or find to search the windows drives.. or redownload the drivers to perhaps find the file02:39
brandon_its ALSA02:40
billywesleypan, post your questions to www.ubuntuforums.org.  Be as specific with as many details as you can.02:40
josh_for the sources.list, what is the country code for USA, US?02:40
saltyi have to use wireless too02:40
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K3nterUSUL: i reinstalled the nvidia driver but i didnt get my gui back. i need to uninstall those packages02:40
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wesleypansalty02:40
wesleypanis yours linksys?02:40
_`XeOn_rbil, just like this? --> alien --scripts winex-x.x.x.rpm02:40
brandon_k3nt, have you tried envy?02:40
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cameronheatheck: thats what i figured,  it only says 3.2 gb when i have 8002:40
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BalsamicChickentest02:40
Dr_williswinex? egads - where did that come from?02:41
K3ntenvy?02:41
rbil_`XeOn_: sure02:41
brandon_google: Ubuntu Envy02:41
saltyno..ya need to use ndswrapper for them don't ya? i have atheros chip and the ipw394502:41
_`XeOn_kk02:41
K3ntbrandon: no02:41
brandon_can someone tell me what is wrong with this line?02:41
brandon_try it02:41
wesleypanlast question billy:....if i used something like WINE or something..would i be able to install the drivers for wireless as exe?02:41
brandon_it installs drivers02:41
K3ntbut i want to fix edgy02:41
brandon_worked for my nvidia02:41
brandon_sudo ./configuresudo ./configure  --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=<stac92xx> --with-oss=yes02:41
brandon_what is wrong with that?02:41
brandon_command02:41
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eckbrandon_: well, first of all, the syntax is all wrong02:42
eckand you don't need to use sudo02:42
brandon_ok02:42
rbil_`XeOn_: btw, why are you using a RPM as opposed to getting the package from the repos?02:42
eckrun it just starting from ./configure02:42
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billywesleypan, i'm not sure.  i'm totally inexperienced with wireless.  from what I understand ubuntu is the best for wireless.  psot to ubuntuforums.org.02:42
brandon_ok, so I can leave the other stuff off?02:42
brandon_because that is what is giving me fits02:42
wesleypanalright02:42
brandon_yes k3nt02:42
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saltywesleypan: i have a linksys that i don't use and it requires the rt8180 driver02:42
ecki think the stuff the the left of the configure is wrong02:42
brandon_it fixes edgy02:42
KeeNaF86hi guys02:43
wesleypansalty02:43
_`XeOn_rbil, cuz theres no winex02:43
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KeeNaF86anybody can read my text?02:43
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wesleypanwould you be able to help me out than?02:43
brandon_yes02:43
tide33yes02:43
K3nti know what i need to do to fix edgy02:43
K3ntand that is remove packages02:43
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cameronheatheck: oonce i have selected the drive, should i modify anything02:43
_`XeOn_im trying to get call of duty working02:43
brandon_I'm just saying...envy will remove the bad ones and install the right ones02:43
saltyno... i had problems with it too...so i bought another02:43
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eckcameronheath: you don't need to, just use the defaults02:43
wesleypanick.02:43
KeeNaF86guys .. im new here .. :)02:44
wesleypanany recommendations on an easy wireless reciever for linux salty?>02:44
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KeeNaF86i have problem with my beryl which is doesnt have title bar02:44
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saltyi bought the netgear WG511T and it works great02:44
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wesleypanawesome salty.02:45
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ubmIndyGunFreak are you near the keyboard?02:45
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah, why?02:45
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IndyGunFreaklol02:45
saltyyou can use madwifi drivers... it has atheros chipset02:46
wesleypank02:46
cameronheatheck: no root file system is defined02:46
ubmIndyGunFreak where is our wine friend did he every manage to install it?02:46
IndyGunFreakubm: you'll have to enlighten me.. i can't remember what you're talking about.02:46
wesleypanis there a program that is graphical that would install without myself typing in the terminal by anychance?02:46
IndyGunFreaki remember the conversation.02:46
billyPeace and Love to all humanity.  Billy must eat food for nourishment.  yum yum...02:46
billyexit02:46
wesleypanlike a program that would do that for you.02:46
billyoops. not in a terminal huh?02:46
erUSULK3nt: go ahead... i think you will need to reinstall the nvidia driver again after removing the package02:47
saltysynaptic if ya have a debian package02:47
ubmIndyGunFreak oh n/m some guy that was in here the other day for hours trying to get wine running on edgy eft latest build... you were helping him, it was just funny.02:47
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saltyubuntu comes with madwifi drivers02:47
IndyGunFreakubm: sorry, been knocked up on some drugs for my ankle for a couple days, didn't recall it.. but now that you mention it, it does seem to be coming back to me...02:47
IndyGunFreakwas coming back like every two seconds, saying something didn't work, and we knew he wasn't trying it.02:48
rbilKeeNaF86: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=163102:48
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ubmIndyGunFreak yeah that was him02:48
chasetoyshey folks02:48
chasetoyscan anyone tell me how to install eclipse02:48
chasetoyson ubuntu... i'm running into lots of problems02:48
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IndyGunFreakubm: see, even with vicodin in me, i'm lucid..lol02:48
|Jason8|Hey guys, I just installed a new video card (Nvidia 5500) and Ubuntu won't run.  Says something about the display not working and to see http://wiki.x.org02:49
|Jason8|Doesn't help me at all :/02:49
IndyGunFreak!nvidia02:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:49
wesleypanberyl = worth the time?02:49
mptechwesleypan, it's nice02:49
ubmIndyGunFreak haha yeah vicodin is wonderful isn't it!02:49
|Jason8|Thanks :)02:49
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crdlbwesleypan, depends on how much time it takes02:49
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IndyGunFreakwesleypan: i think everyone should install beryl once, cuz it is cool, but once its novelty wears off, and you start to notice the drag on your system, you'll likely remove it.02:49
salty'sudo apt-get install eclipse'02:50
_`XeOn_ok now i have a .deb package whats the command to install?02:50
wesleypancrdlb is it relativly easy to install?...i think iwill install beryl now..i've seen videos of beryl02:50
crdlbwesleypan, depends on your video card02:50
ubm| jason8| its not ubuntu its Nvidia ;) and yes it will support the card.02:50
IndyGunFreakwesleypan: you're vido card is the big key02:50
crdlbwesleypan, if you need help see #ubuntu-effects02:50
Xenguy_`XeOn_: dpkg -i02:50
wesleypank02:50
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|Jason8|Cool, good to hear.  my GeForce 2 was getting old :p02:50
ubm| jason8| you need to install the nvidia drivers and configure X02:50
chasetoyscan i please run sudo apt-get install from multiple terminal windows?02:51
_`XeOn_Xenguy, Xenks you :)02:51
chasetoysi get an error that it cant get a lock..02:51
cyphaseHow hard would it be, during the boot process, to only start services necessary to the X server before starting the X server? That way, you can get a GUI as quickly as possible, and the non-essential services can finish starting up in the background. Is this possible with Upstart in Feisty?02:51
chasetoysis there a way around this02:51
wesleypani got a dece nvidia card.02:51
Xenguy_`XeOn_: yw02:51
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salty'dpkg -i <whatever file>.deb02:51
codecainechasetoys you might have synaptics open02:51
rbilchasetoys: no, can only run one instance of install02:51
Charles-AndreHi guys, I've tried all the afternoon to install Ubuntu from a live CD on my laptop. It takes half an hour to load, and when I double-click the "Install" icon, after like 10 minutes, it freezes without bringing the installer GUI. I checked CD-ROM integrity and RAM, everything's OK. My laptop has 256MB RAM. What is causing the problem? Thanks.02:51
ubm| Jason8| http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2902:51
tonyyarussoWhat imaging tools are available for Linux?  (equiv to Norton Ghost)02:51
Xenguytonyyarusso: partimage  ?02:52
salty!ubuntu user guide02:52
eckCharles-Andre: try the alternate installer, i'm not sure if you have enough ram02:52
chasetoysok for those of you who have installed eclipse.... do you folks need to do this 'fakeroot' thing and tell ubuntu to use Java's JRE not gnu's.. i.e. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseWebTools02:52
codecainegparted02:52
tonyyarussoXenguy: thanks02:52
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Charles-Andreeck: What's this alternate installer? From the terminal?02:52
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Xenguytonyyarusso: yw (and what codecaine said ?)02:52
saltyi use the alternate install to command line02:53
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codecaineyou can format and partion with it02:53
IndyGunFreaki really hate when people put their names in brackets02:53
codecaineubuntu actually use it for its install02:53
eckCharles-Andre: it is a text based installer, and you can get it from the regular download page02:53
cameronheatheck: no root file system is defined02:53
bulmerchasetoys: you can select which java via update-alternatives02:53
XenguyIndyGunFreak: annoying nicks are on the rise, get used to it ;-)02:53
Charles-Andreeck: Thanks, do you mean I need to download another ISO?02:53
chasetoysbulmer: thats all i have to type?02:54
IndyGunFreakXenguy: i konw, i know.02:54
bulmerchasetoys: i believe so02:54
ubmchasetoys yes fakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin02:54
Q_Continuumeck: Let me know when you've got a minute.  The USB idea almost worked.02:54
eckCharles-Andre: i'm afraid so, i don't think the regular install cd has a text based installer on it as well02:54
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Pelodpkg is the command line installer for deb packages right ?02:54
tonyyarussoPelo: yes02:54
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eckcameronheath: i am not sure how to troubleshoot vmware02:55
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tonyyarussoXenguy: Is it possible to make a grub option that runs a script?  In particular, restoring the drive to OEM status from a partition image?02:55
Charles-Andreeck: :/ ok, thank you02:55
eckQ_Continuum: how far did you get?02:55
Xenguytonyyarusso: dunno02:55
nwonknu-secret02:55
cameronheatheck: cool, thanks for your help02:55
saltyyou need alternate install for text base install02:55
shinobi2in nautilus, how can i bring back the address bar?02:55
Q_Continuumeck: It booted fine. However, I couldn't put an ISO on the drive as well.02:55
Artemis3I want to burn a data dvd using udf (4.3g file) any program to do this?02:55
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Q_Continuumeck: the boot.img also included how big it was, so it told the drive "You're 260MB in size, with 6MB used" - thus, no room to put the ISO.02:56
Xenguytonyyarusso: grub hates me BTW ;-)02:56
tonyyarussoXenguy: lol02:56
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ubmtonyyarusso you why not run it after boot i would stay away from editing the grub script to run something before boot.... not very smart.02:56
eckQ_Continuum: were you trying to put on the regular installer or the network installer?02:56
Q_Continuumeck: My thought was to partition it ahead of time (into two partitions) and put the ISO on the second one.  will dd let me write to a single partition, or is it directly to the device?02:56
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rbilXenguy, doesn't Grub like names that start with "X"?02:56
Xenguytonyyarusso: it's true - I have nothing but trouble with grub, and I long for the days of lilo :-)02:56
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PeloIf I'm building a scrit to auto install all my little apps in one go after I've reinstalled my system ,  is there a command to enter my root password only once , instead of after earch of the install commands  ?02:56
Peloearch /each02:56
Q_Continuumeck: the regular, it wanted to search for the ISO on the local drives but couldn't find it (since I didn't have it there)02:57
Xenguyrbil: heh, not this nick :-)02:57
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cchanceDoes http://www.amazon.com/Tuner-Card-Remote-Control-PCI/dp/B000C6FVPG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8922741-4907816?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1172973314&sr=1-1 work with ubuntu02:57
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SilentDis'lo02:57
Q_Continuumeck: but there wasn't room to put it on the USB drive I'd booted off of because of the boot.img properties02:57
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eckQ_Continuum: the boot.img has a netinstaller on it02:57
bulmerPelo: you can put all your commands inside a (  )02:57
ubmcchance why dont you give us the hardware version as opposed to spamming us with links to amazon :)02:57
bulmerand do one sudo02:57
Q_Continuumeck: The options wouldn't let that happen.  It wanted the ISO.02:57
Pelobulmer,  thanks02:58
cchanceubm, because i  know nothing about the product but whats on their02:58
cameronheathcan anyone help me setting up a /root directory with vmfusion02:58
Q_Continuumeck: Want me to recreate it again, and give the same options a try?02:58
cchanceubm ASIN: B000C6FVPG02:58
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Q_Continuumeck: I'm adjusting my sleep schedule tonight, so I'll be up until morning sometime - I've got time to burn :D02:58
eckQ_Continuum: ok, here is what you should do. reformat the USB drive with FAT (you can do it in windows or linux, doesn't matter), and then install grub on it again02:58
Pelocan I ask dpkg to install multiple packages or do I have to do dkpg -i for each one ?02:58
ubmcchance i understand but its still spam :)02:59
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SilentDisPelo, from what I understand, dpkg is for single-file .deb installs.  otherwise, you'd be using apt-get or aptitude and pulling them from a repo.02:59
eckthen you basically want to follow these instrcutions: http://eklitzke.org/howto/02:59
ecki am not sure if they will work for the live cd02:59
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Q_Continuumeck: I also have a Fedora box at my beck and call now, along with the laptop with Windows on it (that I'm trying to install to)02:59
eckso it would be best to use the network install or alternate install images02:59
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cchanceubm, well do you know if it will work?02:59
PeloSilentDis,  thanks but those aren't repos'  , no matter it's a script , copy/paste isn'T much of a problem02:59
Q_Continuumeck: I'm fine with whatever, as long as it works :P03:00
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iniakulohhahahai have already install apt-get install roundcube-webmail | but i cant login, question is : how i can create user login ?03:00
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covert|afkquick question: if have an AMD64, do i need to use the x64 alpha of ubuntu? the last time i used the x64 version, things didn't work too well....03:00
SilentDisPelo, yep.  was just typing out a suggestion to shell script it ;)03:00
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Artemis3anyone has any idea how to create an udf dvd?03:00
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Artemis3covert|afk no03:00
covert|afkthank you03:00
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SilentDisArtemis3, i believe k3b has support for that built in.  using command-line type tools, no idea, sorry03:00
ubmcchance yes ubuntu will work with that card the manufacturer  is Norwood Micro03:00
a_cowardI just downloaded pngout... where should I put the executable?03:00
Q_Continuumcovert|afk: no, you can use the i386 version - the amd64 is mainly used for those that need large RAM support (over 4GB) or other "specialty" situations.03:00
eckQ_Continuum: i think you are pretty close if you can reformat the drive and put grub on it03:01
CSVargdoes anyone know how to reset the SETUP_BIOS password on a laptop ?03:01
Q_Continuumeck: shouldn't be any problems that the drive formats as FAT32, instead of FAT correct?03:01
cchanceubm, is their anything else i need to get to make sure it works?03:01
ubma_coward you need to put it in /usr and create symlinks03:01
eckQ_Continuum: that's fine03:01
Q_ContinuumCSVarg: sometimes pulling the CMOS battery, but with any recent one you'd have to contact the manufacturer03:01
eckgrub can read all of them03:01
Q_Continuumeck: Its a 16GB flash drive :P03:01
ubmcchance if it dosnt work out for you make sure to have your receipt ready ;)03:02
CSVargPulling the battery didn't work and it is a used computer.03:02
SilentDisCSVarg, most of the time, it involves blanking the bios completely.  there are SOME brute force tools out there (image the bios and do a password lookup on it type of thing) but I don't know of any by name03:02
ubmcchance get it from compusa03:02
a_cowardCan i just put it in /usr/bin?03:02
Pelodo you guys know a command to add the enable the extra repos and to add thrid party one ?03:02
cchanceubm, as in physicaly go dow their? Their is not compusa near by with in 20 miles03:02
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SilentDisCSVarg, other than that, there's usually a jumper you can short to cause it to blank.  you'd need the bios mfgr/make info (usually printed on the mobo somewhere), then a trip to google to find a tech users manual03:03
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ubmcchance spend the extra 10 dollars for piece of mind03:03
Rocondahey,, how can I use two sound processes at the same time with esd? (e.g. teamspeak and sound? )03:03
mptechdoes anyone know where I can find newer kernels for edgy?03:03
mptechpackaged as .debs03:03
ubmcchance unless you dont mind dealing with shipping... to ease your mind ubuntu will work fine with that card03:03
cchanceubm or i could just send it back to amazon03:03
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ffxrwhere can i look at my bootsplash settings? sdurinhg the segment where i presume bootsplash is loading i get a black screen .. only output i get is on my monitor .. "frequency out of range"03:04
ubmcchance like i said if you don't mind dealing with shipping. :)03:04
cchanceubm, where are you getting your info03:04
jaredI'm trying to convert a .reg file from windows xp to Ubuntu's charset using recode. does anyone know how exactly I'm supposed to do this?03:04
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SilentDismptech, the newest kernel for edgy is 2.6.17-11.  feisty will have 2.6.20-x.  other than that, you're hand building, no prepacked .debs.03:04
cchanceubm, i need something to show my mom it is compatiba03:04
ubmcchance i use mine for myth tv03:04
cchancecompatable.03:04
iniakulohhahahai have already install apt-get install roundcube-webmail | but i cant login, question is : how i can create user login ?03:04
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CSVargA search on the make and model of the computer brought up nil as far as most of anything of importance goes.03:04
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cchanceubm, you it?03:05
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cchanceyou own it*03:05
jaredI'm trying to convert a .reg file from windows xp to Ubuntu's charset using recode. does anyone know how exactly I'm supposed to do this?03:05
ubmcchance i own that card i purchased it here in houston i run myth tv on my ubuntu desktop to record shows. the card works.03:05
jared?03:05
IndyGunFreakubm: what card is that?03:05
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SilentDisCSVarg, other than that... is it a home built or a major manufaturer?  you very well may be SOL on this one, sorry :(03:05
cchanceubm, thanks for your help. Thats my next purchase03:05
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jaredcan anyone help me?03:05
saltyjared: i have nothing to do with windows...sorry03:05
CSVargGateway Solo pro 930003:05
ubmTV Tuner Card with Remote Control, PCI by Norwood Micro03:05
jaredyeah I'm trying to get onto ubuntu 100% so I need to get my photoshop and studio 8 running03:06
IndyGunFreakubm: the hauppage cards also work very well... thats what i have.03:06
ubmit uses a sis generic chipset03:06
SilentDisjared, .reg files in windows are registry entries.  you can open them, usually, in the text editor of your choice.  what exactly are you looking to do?03:06
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IndyGunFreakubm: yeah, Hauppage uses bttv..03:06
jaredI'm trying to convert it to Ubuntu's charset03:06
jaredhttp://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/03:06
saltygimp is what i use instead of the photoshop cs2 9 i had03:06
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ubmyeah ubuntu supports most cards ive never had a problem i mean as long as you put in the effort most hardware works perfectly03:06
BalsamicChickenhow come when i burn a file on cd on one computer, i can't view the newly burnt file on another computer and this computer says the cd is full and therefore can't write new files onto this cd03:07
eckQ_Continuum: you know, you could also just install to the flash device with that much space03:07
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah.03:07
jaredit says to do  $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg    but that doesn't seem to work03:07
ubmIndyGunFreak dude i love myth tv it's wonderful and so much cheaper than tivo03:07
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jaredI don't like gimp that much :(03:07
IndyGunFreakubm: you should have seen my experience setting up dual monitors lastnight/this morning/thisafternoon/today..lol03:07
ecki'm not really sure how it would be useful, but i guess you could carry an ubuntu install in your pocket03:07
SilentDis!info recode03:07
uboturecode: Character set conversion utility. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6-12 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 644 kB03:07
saltyhave ya tried gimp jared?03:07
ubmI record all my family guy and american dad episodes :D03:07
jaredplus there are more tutorials and stuff available for photoshop03:07
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saltyoh...ok03:07
jaredyeah I've tried it03:07
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ubmIndyGunFreak you mean you actually got it to work!03:07
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ubmIndyGunFreak i still havent messed with that yet03:08
Damixhi03:08
jaredI also need to get studio 8 working which I imagine would have the same kind of step since I also needed to pull over a .reg file03:08
SilentDisjared, I don't have much knowledge or experience with the program.  have you checked out the man page for it, or hit up google?  just trying to give suggestions on this one.03:08
|Jason8|m|Is there any chance that someone can walk me through installing my Nvidia drivers via the commandline?  I can't get into synaptic package manager, so I'm lost03:08
IndyGunFreakubm: never used MythTV, is it just a TV client?.. i use TVTime03:08
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IndyGunFreakubm: it was actually easy to get to work, problem was, it spread 1 desktop across both monitors, and id idn't like it that way03:08
IndyGunFreaki wanted one desktop on each monitor.03:08
IndyGunFreakit was a freakin pain03:08
grndslmwhy isn't my network-manager showing a list of available wireless networks??03:08
jaredI've tried google. All I really need to find out is which charset windows XP uses, and I really don't want to restart my comp03:08
ubmIndyGunFreak yeah its just for TV but you can record shows and save them to the hard drive03:08
saltymy problem is that i can't find a good 3d CAD app for linux03:08
SilentDis!envy | |Jason8|m| check this tool out, does all the hard work for ya03:08
ubotu|Jason8|m| check this tool out, does all the hard work for ya: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia03:08
mptechIs it safe to borrow debian kernel packages?03:08
PeloSilentDis,  if you know the names of the packages,  just  sudo apt-get  install pakcage name03:09
IndyGunFreakubm: hmm, never tried mythtv, may give it a try03:09
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IndyGunFreakubm: is it in the repos?03:09
ubmI've been using it for around a 6 months03:09
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cameronheatheck: anything i should know about setting the clock to utm03:09
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cameronheatheck: utc'03:09
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ubmIndyGunFreak yeah i also have a modded xbox which was one of my smartest investments i love its wonderful03:10
SilentDiscameronheath, if you're dual booting to windows, it will be mad.  other than that, ubuntu does the translations to local time for you without hastle :)03:10
ubmIndyGunFreak i just built it from source its simple03:10
IndyGunFreakubm: lol, i've not been brave enought o try that, that 360 was to expensive to go screwing with the innards03:10
IndyGunFreakubm: oh ok03:10
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ubmIndyGunFreak you access it through http its really neat look at some of the screenshots on the site its very customizable as well..03:11
IndyGunFreakubm: ok..03:11
ubmgod i love linux03:11
grndslmanybody know why my network-manager showing a list of available wireless networks??03:11
IndyGunFreaki'm installing it now actually....lol03:11
eckcameronheath: use whatever your system clock is using03:11
eckcameronheath: if you are using windows just use local time03:11
ubmyou can install linux on just about any consumer device its crazy03:11
IndyGunFreakubm: me and you both,03:11
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ubmIndyGunFreak you need to check out openwrt and x-wrt its nuts03:12
ffxrwhere can i look at my bootsplash settings? sdurinhg the segment where i presume bootsplash is loading i get a black screen .. only output i get is on my monitor .. "frequency out of range"03:12
IndyGunFreakubm: just about.. i was looking on Youtube the other day, and they had a video of FC5 or 6 one, on a PS3.03:12
kelsinIndyGunFreak: Myth actually has a very good commercial skipper, and has been very solid for me and my friends as well03:12
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ubmIndyGunFreak another cool port is NSLU2/Debian for the Linksys NSLU203:12
n-iCe!es03:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:12
jaredhey, how exactly do I change the directory to something that has a space in the middle, like Program Files in my wine directory?03:12
mbdlhey everyone i just wanted to pop bye and state some facts.... you cant upgrade ubuntu via the update manager...03:12
ubmI run apache and ftpd on mine its very cool03:12
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jaredbecause everytime I do cd Program Files I get a theres no Program folder03:12
Peloffxr,  you'll probably have to edit the xorg.conf file for horizontal rez and verticla freq that match your screen03:13
mbdlu now haft to eather do it the apt-get or download the iso and mount it03:13
rbiljared: use quotes03:13
ubmIndyGunFreak no way thats crazy the hardware specs for the gpu on the PS3 is amazing03:13
jaredok03:13
SilentDisjared, 2 methods:  escape the space with a \, or put quotes around it.  either `cd Program\ Files` or `cd "Program Files"`03:13
mbdlplease pass it on03:13
saltyjared: /Program\ Files03:13
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah, its on Youtube, should be easy to find, or maybe GoogleVideo03:13
jaredthanks ")03:13
jared*:)03:13
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ubmIndyGunFreak im searching now :)03:13
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ubmIndyGunFreak actually my wife just wrote a paper on the difference between linux and windows, pros and cons her professor had never even used linux after ready the paper she is using ubuntu which is pretty cool..03:15
Q_Continuumeck: One issue with that howto.  I don't have root or sudo access on this box.03:15
ubmreading*03:15
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SilentDisjared, I personally use escape characters.  I blame PHP.  :P03:15
IndyGunFreaknot sure how that happeened03:15
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jaredyeah php does that to you03:15
IndyGunFreakubm: did you find it, i have it pulled up if you want the link03:15
|Jason8|m|What's the command to fetch a file and install it that's located on a web server somewhere?03:15
|Jason8|m|it's a .deb file03:15
jareddid you know that PHP stands for PHP Hypertext Processor? isn't that stupid?03:16
ubmIndyGunFreak please toss me the link03:16
aroonihey folks03:16
IndyGunFreakhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXcuhJkwx403:16
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rbil|Jason8|m|: wget03:16
saltywget <the URL>03:16
elkbuntujared, about as stupid as GNU's Not Unix03:16
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aroonihow do i write to a readonly file03:16
Z_Morekwell... I've managed to completely break lirc on my system03:16
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, from the command line, you can issue a `wget http://server.com/file.whatever` command, if that's what you're looking for03:16
arooniin /etc/apt/sources.list03:16
aroonifolr example03:16
ffxrPelo they are set perfectly .. using my monitors manual.. & EVERYTHING elese works fine... i was thinking the bootsplash image was too big or something...03:16
|Jason8|m|thanks :)03:16
Z_Morekand I am jumping with joy03:16
IndyGunFreakubm: resolution is awful, must becuse of the standard TV output03:16
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|Jason8|m|Exactly what I was looking for :)03:16
ray_hello all03:16
Z_Morekanyone here good with lirc?03:17
BalsamicChickenhow come when i burn a file on cd on one computer, i can't view the newly burnt file on another computer and this computer says the cd is full and therefore can't write new files onto this cd03:17
Peloffxr,  this is not the default splash screen I take it ?03:17
aroonihey folks.... how can edit a read only file03:17
Z_Morekand able to guide me thru fixing a bad install03:17
SilentDis!info lirc03:17
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ubotulirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB03:17
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Z_Morekarooni check the permissions03:17
grndslmthat was helpful03:17
bjamesdoes anyone have experience of installing Ubuntu over multiple drives using software JBOD?03:17
arooniZ_Morek: how do i do that... and how do i change persmission so i can edit it03:17
ray_i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use03:17
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ubmIndyGunFreak yeah FC5 thats nuts03:18
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Tom_KunI have a driver question for ubuntu. Is there any way of getting the CNET CNUSB-611AR working? I know it uses atmel, but I have had 0 success in making it work properly in the past.03:18
SilentDisarooni, so long as it's on a partition mounted read/write, and just has permissions set for read only, you can use sudo to gain temporary super-user privalages.  what file are you trying to edit?03:18
puchoHello03:18
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah, but the res sucks, he needs to get a hi def tv..lol03:18
ray_how do i install grub to the second hard drive now?03:18
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arooniin /etc/apt/sources.list03:18
puchoNo entiendo nada03:18
Z_Morekubotu: I need to install from source03:18
Z_Moreknvm03:18
ffxryes it is.. Pelo.. ive had this problem since i first put the LiveCD into my CDROM.. everything is fine, except for 10secs of blackness during the boot process...03:18
puchoDe que est'an Hablando_03:18
saltyarooni 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'03:19
SilentDisarooni, unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing, i don't recommend editing your sources.list file without a backup.  here's the command though: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:19
Peloffxr,  that's a bit out of my league, try looking it up on the forum03:19
eckQ_Continuum: so you can't format the drive?03:19
puchoYou are de Pelo, or not03:19
eckuse the live cd03:19
aroonii'm just uncommeting some stuff....03:19
|Jason8|m|Okay, so I downloaded the .deb file, now how do I install it?03:19
IndyGunFreakubm: one of those videos shows Windows XP running on a PS3..lol03:19
aroonii dont know what im doing , i m following http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/12/07/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-edgy-eft03:19
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SilentDissalty, if you're looking to super-user a gui program such as gedit, use gksudo ;)03:19
Pelopucho,  I am "a" Pelo03:19
jaredYeah I hear you can put any OS on a PS303:19
bjamesWinXP on PS3?!03:19
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saltyarooni 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'03:20
ffxrok.. Pelo.. thanks for replying... [i think its got something to with an unsupported EEPROM on my motherboard...] 03:20
S0cratesAnyone gotten anjuta 2.1.1 working?03:20
bjamesI didn't realise they were x8603:20
arooniahh ok03:20
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, what are you trying to install?03:20
aroonisalty: i accidentally did chmod 77703:20
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IndyGunFreakbjames: yep....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ecr8tWetI&mode=related&search=03:20
ray_i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use03:20
aroonisalty: to edit it... how can i revert it back to read only03:20
puchoWhere are you from_03:20
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ray_how can i go back and install grub?03:20
Q_Continuumeck: crap.  I don't have any burned copies around.  I think I'll try doing it from windows again to the USB drive.  Think pre-partitioning it, then dd'ing that boot.img will work? (to a single partition)03:20
IndyGunFreakbjames: nevermind..03:20
Z_Morekarooni google around for chmod03:20
saltyas soon as you close it it'll be the  same03:20
IndyGunFreakidiot said it was XP, but its Fedora with Qemu running XP..lol03:20
grndslmarooni:  man chmod03:20
Q_Continuumeck: or would dd write to the whole device, and overwrite any and all partitions?03:20
Z_Morekit's a good thing to know about... and knowing permissions03:20
|Jason8|m|SilentDis, there's a program that installs nvidia drivers, I just downloaded it, it's a .deb file.  I'm doing everything with the commandline, so I'm kinda iffy on it all.03:20
IndyGunFreakstill pretty impressive.03:20
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SilentDis|Jason8|m|, using envy I take it?03:21
jaredgah! I forget how to get to the wine config. Anyone know?03:21
|Jason8|m|yep03:21
|Jason8|m|now I have to install it!03:21
grndslmanybody know why my network-manager isn't showing a list of available wireless networks, only wired??03:21
eckQ_Continuum: what would you be dd'ing?03:21
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, sudo dpkg -i envy*.deb :)03:21
ecksorry, i am a bit confused03:21
Q_Continuumeck: that boot.img that we tried last time.  It wanted an ISO of the Live CD.03:21
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ray_i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use03:21
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, after that, it's just sudo envy, and it does everything else for you :D03:21
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|Jason8|m|SilentDis, thanks a lot! :D03:22
IndyGunFreakubm: did you see that video claiming to run XP on a PS3?...lol03:22
ray_how can i install grub now?03:22
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bjamesnobody in here using JBOD then?03:22
Q_Continuumeck: which is what stopped it from installing.  dd'ing the boot.img to the drive (when it was one partition) overwrote it and told the drive that it only had about 250MB free.  Otherwise I would've dropped the .ISO on there and done it.03:22
arooniso its execute, write, read, ALL from 1,2,4,703:22
SilentDis!grub | ray_03:22
uboturay_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:22
SilentDis!info jbod03:22
ubotuPackage jbod does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:22
arooniand where it is depends on which group of users gets to do it03:22
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saltygrndslm i use wifi-radar to show  local access points03:22
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ray_thanks03:22
grndslmto show?03:22
saltyyes03:22
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gwankyHowdy, quick question03:22
grndslmnetwork-manager worked great for a while03:23
ubmIndyGunFreak yeah apparently the PS3 allows you to save information such as bootloaders in memory thats awesome03:23
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khaije!jbod03:23
saltymt 'network-manager' doesn't scan for access points but 'wifi-radar' will03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jbod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
SilentDisgwanky, ask quickly, there's too much blood in my nicotiene system right now, and while I am working to rectify that, my attention span is short lol03:23
|Jason8|m|d'oh!03:23
saltymy*03:23
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah.. but the thing was, he wasn't running windows, he was running FC5, w/ Qemu and Windows. XP03:23
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gwankyMy brother has a windows computer and I have a linux computer. When I burn Age of Empires II (the windows version, I'm using wine) on my brothers computer it reports all the files as not valid win32 applications.03:23
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eckQ_Continuum: try the image here http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/03:23
grndslmsalty:  very odd, i dunno if i like where this is headed03:23
eckQ_Continuum: i don't know how you plan on partitioning the drive beforehand03:24
grndslmsounds like a bug to me03:24
eckthat is what i am confused about03:24
ormandjwhy aren't my windows drives being automatically mounted? i checked the help docs, they say they should be03:24
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bjameskhaije: Ever tried it?03:24
Q_Continuumeck: I can boot to windows on the laptop I'm installing it on. (haven't wiped it yet)03:24
SilentDisgwanky, i've never herd of such a problem.  are you buring from an iso or just files?03:24
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eckQ_Continuum: i think you can write the boot.img with dd in windows03:24
khaijebjames: are you talking about just a bunch of disks aka lvm ?03:24
Q_Continuumeck: and repartition it with two, then when I dd the .img it (hopefully) only clobbers the one partition.03:24
Chefhey, anyone know why my 6.06 system won't let me know about 6.10 even if I run "update-manager -c"?03:24
Chefmore specifically, is there some sort of log I can look at for update-manager?03:25
bjamesJust a Bunch Of Disks, yes - I've got two drives I want to appear as one03:25
Q_Continuumeck: the problem is when I wrote the boot.img it decided it only had the free space that was available in the original boot.img device.03:25
gwankyiso03:25
SilentDis!upgrade | Chef - just trying to make sure the basics got covered with this info bit03:25
gwankythat I got off bittorrent03:25
ubotuChef - just trying to make sure the basics got covered with this info bit: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:25
eckQ_Continuum: i am not sure if that will work, you can try it. the reason is that the boot.img includes a MBR and partition table (which is why it tells you that you don't have very much space available)03:25
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ormandjok, let me phrase it another way, do i have to manually edit fstab in order to have my windows disks automatically mounted?03:26
Q_Continuumeck: any way to "edit" the boot.img before I dd it then?  (Windows apps preferred) basically to "resize" the partition it creates.03:26
ChefSilentDis: thanks; I already upgraded one system just fine last week, but this one for some reason says no updates are available when I run: gksu "update-manager -c"03:26
whositormandj, yes03:26
Chef(same thing I did for the other system)03:26
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ChefI did manage to get some security updates for 6.06 today, though...03:26
ormandjwhosit: thank you. maybe they should be mounted by default in future releases :)03:26
okarataswhat is ubuntu cdrom message ?03:27
SilentDisChef, hmm...  just to be sure everything is up to date, do this:  sudo aptitude update03:27
whositMine was automounted.03:27
whositwhat version you running?03:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:35 ozgur kernel: [17192450.060000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 2403:27
SilentDisChef, from a terminal, of course03:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }03:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  hdb: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 }03:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown03:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 003:27
okaratasMar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.388000]  UDF-fs: No VRS found03:27
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ormandjwhosit: fresh install of 6.1003:27
SilentDis!pastebin | ormandj03:27
ubotuormandj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:27
whositdual boot?03:27
ormandjSilentDis, dude, why?03:27
gwankyAnyone ever here of something like that03:27
ormandji'm not pasting anything, that ws okaratas03:27
codecainehow you open a image through terminal?03:27
codecainewhats the image viewer command name03:27
Tom_Kunhehe, assumed as much :p noone knows how to03:27
ormandjwhosit: no, just a ubuntu install only, but there are two NTFS disks03:27
okaratasormandj, hm okey sorry.03:28
Q_Continuumeck: I think I found a .img editor, or more than one.  I just need to increase the "size" of it so I can put the ISO on there after I dd the image on.  Then it will work fine.03:28
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whositthats why.03:28
SilentDisormandj, sorry, dislexia and not enough nicotiene, my apologies.03:28
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ubmIndyGunFreak i wouldnt trust windows on my PS3 lol03:28
ormandjsilentdis: no worries03:28
ChefSilentDis: 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade' says 0 package to upgrade.03:28
Artemis3hm im having fun trying to build an udf disc...03:28
ubuntu_no_workyhey every1....03:28
SilentDis!pastebin | okaratas03:28
ubotuokaratas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:28
eckQ_Continuum: yes, that would work03:28
IndyGunFreakubm: lol, me and you both03:28
ormandjwhosit: what do you mean?03:28
knovakHey all, I upgraded to Edgy the other night and when I try to run games now I get this: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"03:28
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|Jason8|m|Is there a way to load the GUI of Ubuntu when you don't have drivers for your video card?03:28
whositYou have to create a mount point for them.03:28
ubuntu_no_workydoes anyone here know why the powerbutton locks up the computer but the normal shutdown works fine?03:28
ubmIndyGunFreak now if the screen through some odd kernel32 error it would have been more believable03:28
Q_Continuumeck: now just to find one that I don't have to pay to unlock that functionality ;-D03:28
SilentDisChef, ok good.  means the list is at least up to date...  let me do some poking...03:28
ormandjwhosit: yes, i know how to mount disks w/ mount and how to edit fstab, i just found it odd that ubuntu is automatically mounting them somewhere03:29
IndyGunFreakubm: perhaps if it crashed,03:29
grndslmsalty:  wifi-radar doesn't seem to be working either03:29
IndyGunFreakubm: maybe the BSOD..lol03:29
ubmhaha03:29
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ormandjis->isn't03:29
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, you'll need to resetup x to use the VESA driver (basic vga stuff, nothing fancy).  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:29
whositYea, It never bothered me either since it is easy enough to set the up.03:29
ormandjwhosit: oh well, maybe next version :)03:29
Artemis3ormandj, it would be nice to disable automounting03:29
ormandjartemis: i want automounting, it's not working for me, neither of the NTFS disks are mounting automatically03:30
Artemis3ntfs?03:30
ormandjyes...03:30
Artemis3why would you need an ntfs disk automounted? usb stick?03:30
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knovakanyone know how I can fix "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"? I have the latest nvidia legacy drivers for my card, and my xorg.conf file is set up right...03:30
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ormandjartemis3: usb thumbdrives03:31
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Artemis3cant you simply reformat into fat?03:31
sureshotif i wanted to compile the kernel how would i go about starting that03:31
eckQ_Continuum: so you don't have root access to a linux computer? that is definitely the easiest solution03:31
ubmIndyGunFreak dude so my mom works for a voting consumer research company and she works primarily with a younger crowd and she was in the office and she goes mabye we should start using linux and all young people were like you know about linux?!?! she responded yeah its free and opensource - the old woman made me proud when i herd about it.03:31
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EkToBoTwindow 103:31
EkToBoTlol03:31
IndyGunFreakubm: lol03:31
Pelosureshot,  check the forum I am sure you will find a howto03:31
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whositUbm, its free and Xgl kicks MS's but in eye candy :)03:32
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SilentDisChef, hmm... i'm not finding anything, other than the command SHOULD be `gksu "update-manager -c"`.  outside that, I'd say pull the alt-install CD (or the DVD) for edgy and try the `gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"` command instead03:32
_`XeOn_i liked the command sudo apt-get remove windows-vista03:32
Artemis3on the other hand the other day i saw certain usb micro hd formated as ntfs... this could become a nuisance03:32
_`XeOn_eheh03:32
sureshotPelo thanks man just in a middle of a big project that is taking more time than i thought.. i was thinking build essentials03:32
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sureshoti need the compiler03:32
ubmIndyGunFreak they need to make a distro targeted towards 'parents' like ubuntu for parents. that would be cool big flashy icons for people with poor sight.. ya know something simple..03:33
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Pelosureshot,  if you are compiling you probably will need it03:33
|Jason8|m|SilentDis, any chance you'd be free to work with me via Query?03:33
ubuntu_no_workyanyone know how to automount drives... ext3?03:33
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Peloprobably/ assuredly03:33
IndyGunFreakubm: I think its called Kubuntu..lol03:33
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ubuntu_no_workywhy doesn't ubuntu do it automagically?  will this be fixed in feisty?03:33
Artemis3oh, and ext3 too?03:33
sureshotPelo a sense of humor i see well i need that thanks03:33
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aroonihey folks03:33
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, I prefer to keep things in chat, so others can correct/read/learn/etc.  but if you insist, I am PMable :)03:33
freeflyer57hi03:33
arooniis there anyway i can get cool visual effects like vista has03:34
aroonior ox1003:34
ubmwhosit dude your absolutely right the Xgl is beautiful03:34
aroonios10 on apple..... for my ubuntu?03:34
Artemis3like beryl?03:34
aroonilike cool stuff for alt-tab... etc03:34
S0cratesI want a stable version of Anjuta, either 1.24 or 2.1.1 Beta, but not this 2.0.2 crap.  How do I make this happen the cleanest???03:34
whositYea, I got it running on my laptop right now :)03:34
|Jason8|m|SilentDis: Okay.  It'd be easier to keep track of in query.03:34
Errpast1trying to install  a brother 2070 printer on Ubuntu 6.0603:34
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EkToBoTuse spyglass03:34
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arooniEkToBoT: do i do sudo apt-get install spyglass03:34
arooni?03:34
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EkToBoTits a 3d desktop environment better than vista03:34
EkToBoTno03:34
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codecainewhere can I get documentation on linux api03:34
cuscobefore I would dpkg-reconfigure locales to chose my local charset03:35
codecaineis linux api like windows api?03:35
EkToBoTyou will need to pull it off the net03:35
cusconow how do I do?03:35
SilentDis|Jason8|m|, just fyi, you do have to !register your nick on freenode to use PMs.03:35
codecainefor programming03:35
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|Jason8|m|oh03:35
Exershiocan somebody help me? I want to set my screen resolution at 1152x864, but all I have is 800x600, 1024x768, and 1280x102403:35
sontekHey, i'm trying to use virtualbox and I get this error: http://monoport.com/192603:35
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sontekanyone know what causes that?03:35
`nicolaHow do I configure myme types for .list files ? thanks I would like to change the default associated application03:35
ChefSilentDis: yeah...  couldn't find anything in the wikis or via google either.  I may just back up & do a fresh Edgy install...03:35
ubmIndyGunFreak i always tell people and i know at some point we have all herd this ' i dont use linux it's too difficult, i tried it and gave up.' you may have given up on linux but it will never give up on you. Windows is like rehab it's for quitters.03:35
arooniEkToBoT: having trouble finding spyglass03:36
Q_Continuumeck: correct.  No root access. (Now have laptop here next to me)03:36
grndslmErrpast1:  can you not go to System | Administration | Printers and click Add03:36
aesiamundoes anyone know if there are issues with installing wine?  I get the traditional: 'package referred by others but not found' error.03:36
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EkToBoTspyglass is pretty demanding should check the requirements before installing this addon for gnome03:36
rbilsontek: remove all references to wacom in your xorg.conf. I have no idea why Ubuntu decides to include input devices like that by default.03:36
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Peloaesiamun,  #winehq03:36
SilentDisChef, that's actually what I did personally to this machine.  Feisty will be my first in place upgrade heh03:36
IndyGunFreakubm: true statement there... i started in 2003.. mostly just distro hopping and going bak to Windows.03:36
EkToBoTlook on google video03:36
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ubmExershio what video card are you using?03:36
EkToBoTi think there is a link on the video03:36
aesiamunPelo, sorry but this is an ubuntu error, not wine03:36
IndyGunFreakfinally got Xandros to work about a year and a half ago03:36
aesiamunapt-get install wine fails03:37
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eckQ_Continuum: I don't suppose you could just install over windows and then reinstall at a later point in time?03:37
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: try SUDO apt-get install wine03:37
aesiamunugh03:37
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IndyGunFreakbig difference..lol03:37
aesiamunyeah i did that03:37
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IndyGunFreakaesiamun: did you add thee repositobe?03:37
IndyGunFreakgeez..03:37
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Exershioub, I'm using an onboard intel one, but when I had Windows XP I was able to use that resolution03:37
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: did you add the repository03:37
arooniEkToBoT: cant find it on youtube03:37
Q_Continuumeck: as in do two installs?  No, I can do that.  I just need to make sure I can do it :D03:37
ubmIndyGunFreak yeah i did the exact same thing i think everyone does. We all just experiment at first then once we realize the huge amount of freedom you are given when you say no to the dows we stick with linux.03:37
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aesiamunit's not included in the default ubuntu repo?03:37
arooniis there any way i can install a vista like visual effect add on for my ubuntu 6.10?03:37
EkToBoTi will find the link for you one second pls03:38
aroonii'm having trouble finding it :(03:38
arooniok03:38
whositLinux, Xgl and Mythtv :)03:38
IndyGunFreakubm: ..yup... or you just get sick of upgrading M$'s crap...lol03:38
ubmIndyGunFreak i value AOL cds more than a windows install disc03:38
grndslmarooni:  you mean beryl?03:38
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aroonigrndslm: i have no idea what i mean...03:38
grndslmor an effect for beryl?03:38
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: i'm not sure to be truthful.... http://www.winehq.org  click on Download(or get now, something like that). click Ubuntu, it shows you how to add the repo and download wine03:38
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knovakHey all, I upgraded to Edgy the other night and when I try to run games now I get this: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"03:38
aroonigrndslm: i just want a cool visual effect add in03:38
grndslmoh...well, then yea..beryl03:38
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aroonifor UI, for ... alt tab03:38
aroonietc...03:38
IndyGunFreakubm: lmao03:38
knovakand when I try running GLXgears I get this : "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."03:39
aroonispice it up a little03:39
aesiamunum ok...03:39
ubmIndyGunFreak bill isnt fooling me by these large donations... he does it for tax purposes i will always think he sucks ass.03:39
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whositwww.gnome-look.org03:39
aroonigrndslm: can i run... sudo apt-get install beryl03:39
EkToBoTlol how hard did you look03:39
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aroonihard!03:39
arooni;p03:39
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IndyGunFreakubm: only people Bill has fooled is the justice dept..lol03:39
grndslm## Beryl03:39
grndslmdeb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn03:39
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grndslmarooni:  add that03:39
grndslmto your /etc/apt/sources.list03:39
Artemis3knovak, type glxinfo in a console03:39
Tom_Kunarooni, you can always spend about 1000$ upgradering your computer to be compatible with vista home premium.03:39
Tom_Kun:p03:39
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Errpast1can someone please help me to get my brother 2070 n printer to work03:39
grndslmthen aptitude update && aptitude upgrade as root03:39
Scootyhy,is there anyone can help me,pls?03:39
grndslmby sudo -i03:39
ubmIndyGunFreak besides he is a pirate himself getting rich by deception03:39
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knovakname of display: :0.003:40
knovakXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:40
knovakXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:40
knovakXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:40
knovakError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:40
IndyGunFreakno kidding.03:40
ubmthat would be a good title for a book about bill gates03:40
knovaksorry for the 4 lines03:40
knovak5*03:40
Scootyhy,is there anyone can help me,pls?03:40
EkToBoTsorry i got it wrong its called "looking glass"03:40
Errpast1I went to system>administration>printing>printers>add new printer03:40
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: Thanks,  I'm just surprised they don't have their own packages.03:40
Artemis3dont paste output here,03:40
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: they do...03:40
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aesiamunit's not in the ubuntu repos03:40
knovakyeah, I know03:40
IndyGunFreakbut i'm not sure what ubuntu repo to find it in, so just get it fromt he source03:40
knovakim just trying to get this working03:40
Errpast1I successfully added HP 2070N for CUPS - it shows up03:40
knovakbut I have no clue as to why it wouldnt03:40
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: its in one of the ubuntu repos, i'm just not sure which one to be truthful.03:41
aesiamuni have universe, metaverse and the normal...so if it's not in those three, i dont know of any other ubuntu repos03:41
Artemis3what card?03:41
grndslmErrpast1:  congrats!03:41
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: there's a gozillion.. :)03:41
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aesiamunis there really?03:41
aroonigrndslm: i edited the sources.list with that deb thing03:41
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: quite a few.03:41
ubmknovak use paste.ubuntu-nl.org please03:41
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: haven't heard of that one.03:41
EkToBoThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g03:41
arooniand when i tried sudo apt-get install it couldnt find it03:41
rbilknovak: have u got Load GLX and Load dri lines in your xorg.conf?03:41
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EkToBoTthats looking glass link03:41
grndslmarooni:  cool beans03:41
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: some are official, some are unofficial "backports", etc...03:42
Errpast1grndslm, but when I send a print job, it stays in the queue03:42
aroonigrndslm: well im a little unsure on how to get it workin :P03:42
EkToBoTnp only the vidoe but you can see if you will like it03:42
sontekHey, I install the kubuntu desktop to check it out but I like gdm more than kdm, How do I tell ubuntu that gdm is my default?03:42
ubmsontek in sessions before you login03:42
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: wow, even Google doesn't know about gozillion03:42
arooniEkToBoT: yes but how do i get it03:42
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: gozillion is a really high number....lol03:42
CpuID2grndslm, got a ppc beryl repo around?03:42
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knovakrbil, yes I do03:42
ubmsontek down at the left of the screen ;)03:42
amaanwhich mp3 playing software supports ipod besides rthymthbox?03:42
Errpast1I'm using it as a network printer, ethernet to my local home network03:42
sontekubm: wheres the config for it? I want to do /etc/init.d/gdm start03:42
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: oooh,...i thought that was the name :)03:42
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: lol.. no.. it was a reference to how many repos are out there for Ubuntu.03:43
IndyGunFreakthere's a list i saw the other day, that listed like 240...03:43
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IndyGunFreaksupposedly it was all of them, but i don't know.03:43
ubmsontek its located in /etc/03:43
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EkToBoTarooni: im not sure you will probably have to pull a.tar from the sun website03:43
ubmsontek one sec ill get the name of the file03:43
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: i realize there are a lot of unnoficial ones.  I just would have thought that Ubuntu would have their own wine package in one of the top three.03:43
Scootyhy,is there anyone can help me,pls?03:43
EkToBoTits all open source i think03:43
shriphaniguys i am compiling fluxbox from source on dapper and it doesnt show up in the sessions list in the login screen03:43
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IndyGunFreakaesiamun: again, i thought it was to be truthful, but who knows.03:43
ubmsontek gdm.conf ?03:44
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IndyGunFreakaesiamun: but its real easy to install from the wine repo.03:44
Pelosymlinks command is   ln -s symlink   target right ?03:44
rbilknovak: what video driver u using?03:44
aesiamunIndyGunFreak: yeah i'm looking at it now.03:44
aroonigrndslm: so once i add that deb link for beryl.... how do i install it03:44
eckshriphani: look at the fluxbox dpkg or build the fluxbox .deb03:44
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: ok..03:44
arooniEkToBoT: im a little new to linux03:44
aesiamunstupid sling media not having a real linux port is causing me to do this...it's the only reason03:44
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benjoer456indy : so do i03:44
ubmsontek /etc/gdm/gdm.conf i believe03:44
shriphanieck i got the tarball03:44
IndyGunFreakaesiamun: sling media?03:44
aesiamunyeah they make the slingbox03:44
Scootyhy,is there anyone can help me,pls?03:45
knovakrbil: I am using nvidia-glx-legacy, my card is Geforce MX 400003:45
IndyGunFreakbenjoer456: so do i what?..sorry you lost me03:45
eckshriphani: it will be easier for you to get the .deb source and patch it03:45
EkToBoTarooni: http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/03:45
aesiamunit's a box you hook up to your cable/satellite/etc and it streams to a client.03:45
EkToBoTthats the oficial homepage03:45
eckshriphani: or else read the GDM documentation03:45
benjoer456i'm new to linux too03:45
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IndyGunFreakaesiamun: oh ok.03:45
NET||abuseHi all,, just a little problem getting my share to work on my home network, trying to make a dir shareable so i can copy a file from my windows desktop onto my laptop (ubuntu) using smb03:45
sontekubm: I need to tell my computer that gdm is the default03:45
PeloScooty,  what is your problem ?03:45
Kismetanyone having freeze issue when quitting X.org with fglrx driver and ubuntu Edgy ?03:45
IndyGunFreakbenjoer456: what did you need to know?03:45
benjoer456how do i get libc6 package03:45
sontekubm: when I did /etc/init.d/gdm start it says it can't start because its not the defaut03:45
sontekdefault*03:45
IndyGunFreakbeen that shoule be in your repositories.03:46
ubmsontek one sec03:46
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shriphaniguys where is the xsession file ?03:46
Pelobenjoer456,  menu > system > admin > synaptic : search03:46
IndyGunFreakbenjoer456: what are you trying to install that requires it?03:46
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NET||abusei right click and set the sharing, uncheck the read only bit,, but then when i go to my windows deskotp, start->run  \\x.x.x.x\winshare it asks for user/password03:46
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benjoer456needed for libmpeg303:46
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ubmsontek did you try .xsession or .xinitrc03:46
sontekubm: I think I found it, /etc/X11/default-display-manager03:46
benjoer456libc6 needed for libmpeg303:46
knovakrbil, hang on, im going to try rebooting my system03:46
Pelobenjoer456,  menu > system > admin > synaptic : search03:46
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aroonihow can have VIM like editing abilities on my command line03:46
NET||abusei put in my linux user user/pass and it comes back with the laptops hostname prepended infront of the username with a \ inbetween03:46
tachuhey im looking for ubuntu themes where can I download some03:47
aroonior at least jump to the beginning of the command line03:47
kenvI just installed the new ubuntu and am trying to get wmv files to run.  Any suggestions?03:47
NET||abuseis there a workgroup name or something i have to set for windows xp to get access to this share?03:47
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IndyGunFreakPelo: guess he didn't appreciate our advice..lol03:47
Pelotachu,  gnome look ,  gnome art ,  or try the art manager in synaptic03:47
grndslmarooni:  i already told ya... sudo -i to become root03:47
NET||abuseand how do i get to the samba configuration to set such an option?03:47
pepetruenoHi, i need to ask a dumb question, is it necesary to have both OS on the same hard drive so that grub will show them at boot time or you can have 2 OS in dif hdd and will they show in grub?03:47
tachuPelo: thanks03:47
PeloIndyGunFreak,  no one ever listens to me03:47
shriphanieck: where is the xsession file ?03:47
grndslmthen aptitude install beryl after you've updated && upgraded03:47
IndyGunFreakPelo: you were right on.... i always presume people have played with the menus enough to know where synaptic is03:48
Errpast1where is a good site to troubleshoot a network printer installation03:48
Scootyhy,is there anyone can help me,pls?03:48
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: http://www.hardashell.com03:48
PeloIndyGunFreak,  is the symlink command ln -s or ls -n ?03:48
PeloScooty,  what is your problem ?03:48
EkToBoTScooty: whats the problem03:48
EkToBoTlol03:48
aroonigrndslm: i can do that root thing but when i run aptitude install beryl it doesnt download anything...03:48
IndyGunFreaki think ls -n.. i don't use it to often.03:48
arooniit says after unpacking 0kb will be used03:48
Errpast1IndyGunFreak, ha ha.  It took me 2 minutes on Vista.  And I'm an hour into it with Ubuntu03:49
eckln -s03:49
grndslmarooni:  does it complain03:49
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kenvHelp!! I just installed the new ubuntu and am trying to get wmv files to run.  Any suggestions?03:49
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: i understand, but you'll feel more of a reward with Linux.. :)03:49
NET||abuseanyone ever setup a folder to let windows upload things onto their ubuntu box?03:49
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arooniCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "beryl"03:49
Scootyi need a pppoe internet connection and i don't know how to do it03:49
Werdnumhello all03:49
IndyGunFreak!wmv03:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:49
WerdnumI'm having apt troubles03:49
Scootycan you help me?03:49
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tachui installed beryl but it won't work, i get something that there is no composite so i edited the xorg.conf "Extensions" section to "Composite" "Enable" but it still won't work. help?03:49
Scootyi hade usb modem03:49
n-iCeThank you guys , gracias !03:50
Errpast1IndyGunFreak, ya, just wish I could print03:50
WerdnumE: Package libwmf0.2-7 has no installation candidate03:50
PeloScooty,  terminal ,  type sudo pppeoconf and answer the questions, when it doubt use the default provided03:50
WerdnumI don't know why.03:50
IndyGunFreakErrpast1:  i understand03:50
Scootyadsl connection03:50
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: did you get it to work?03:50
WerdnumI can't install adept using apt, either03:50
Errpast1I'm off to google ubuntu + 2070 +brother03:50
PeloScooty,  terminal ,  type sudo pppeoconf and answer the questions, when it doubt use the default provided03:50
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  what ?03:50
Q_Continuumeck: So which way should I try? lol...considering I don't have root...what's probably the easiest way?  ('net connection is no issue, nor is drive space)03:50
ubmNET||abuse see here its real simple http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server03:50
IndyGunFreakhell, you asked me about something..lol03:50
EkToBoTScooty: would iptables help??03:50
Errpast1Will also check my O'reilly Ubuntu hacks book03:50
Errpast1thanks03:50
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IndyGunFreako9h yeah, how to hotlink to your desktop in Xfce03:50
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n-iCeahh no hahaha03:50
n-iCe=p03:50
IndyGunFreaki told you how to do it.03:50
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eckQ_Continuum: were you successful in installing grub on the drive earlier?03:51
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Q_ContinuumYes.  I can install Grub without issue.03:51
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  how :o ?03:51
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Q_ContinuumJust that we've discussed so many options, trying to solidify which one I'm trying :P03:51
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: right click your desktop, choose create launcher... Name.. Swiftfox... Command.. Swiftfox.. then click the Icon and choose an icon03:51
eckQ_Continuum: format the drive, and install grub, then copy a netboot kernel/initrd or the contents of the alternate installer ontot the drive03:51
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grndslmanybody know why my network-manager isn't showing a list of available wireless networks, only wired??  and neiter is wif-radar!!03:52
grndslmneither03:52
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NET||abuseubm, thanks,, i'll have a peruse of that :) nice one03:52
sureshotis the syntax for build-essentials that same for 6.06 lts as 6.1003:52
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sureshotthat = the03:52
Pelogrndslm, we are sorry but your bad spelling means that we will not help you03:52
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Pelosureshot, we are sorry but your bad spelling means that we will not help you03:53
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  done and now ?03:53
IndyGunFreakclick on it03:53
IndyGunFreaklol03:53
grndslmPelo:  do you wanna throw down03:53
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n-iCeopen a text file IndyGunFreak03:53
IndyGunFreakhuh?03:53
ubmgrndslm try sudo iwlist eth1 scan03:53
n-iCe[Desktop Entry] 03:53
n-iCeVersion=1.003:53
n-iCeEncoding=UTF-803:53
n-iCeType=Application03:53
n-iCeName=Swiftfox03:53
n-iCeComment=03:53
sureshotother than that what was not spelled wright03:53
n-iCewith that inside03:53
n-iCeCategories=Application;03:53
n-iCeExec=Swiftfox03:53
n-iCeIcon=internet-web-browser03:53
ubmn-iCe use pastebin03:53
n-iCeTerminal=false03:53
n-iCeStartupNotify=false03:53
n-iCeub paste bin ?03:53
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: now you would try this after i put my laptop away03:54
ubmpaste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:54
IndyGunFreakbut id id it, and it worked fine03:54
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  what ?03:54
IndyGunFreakoh i know..03:54
sureshotis the syntax for build-essentials the same for 6.06 as 6.1003:54
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NET||abuseone other thing,, i inadvertently installed konqueror,, now i dont' want rid as i need it to run an application(which one isn't coming to me right now) but it's taken over opening urls from xchat, how can i set xchat to open urls back in firefox again?03:54
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: it should be.. Category-  APplication, Name- Swiftfox... COMMAND-swiftfox... then chose an icon, leave everything else alone03:54
n-iCei did it03:55
RedRoseHow Do I change my tty Screen resolution. I am running server ubuntu, and the tty console is displaying at low resolutoion03:55
n-iCeIs: NAme: Swiftfox Browser03:55
n-iCeCommand : /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox03:55
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IndyGunFreakn-iCe: no.. not /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox..   just swiftfox03:55
n-iCeuhm03:55
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n-iCeyou're bad03:55
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n-iCei did it as i told you and works03:56
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: hmmm.03:56
ant hmmm03:56
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grndslmubm:  i get "eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning."  both with and without eth1 enabled in /etc/network/interfaces after restarting /etc/network/interfacs03:56
IndyGunFreakit should, but really, you shouldn't need the map there03:56
TazDevilGood evening everyone03:56
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: anyways, glad it works.03:56
knovakrbil: I rebooted and the problem still exists03:56
sontekwhere is xorg-config or whatever its called? I can't find it on my system03:56
n-iCebut said that is working i must close it first03:56
n-iCebut isn't working :/03:56
rbilknovak: in xorg.conf is Driver "nv" or "nvidia"?03:56
IndyGunFreakhuh?03:56
ScootyPelo ?03:56
tachusontek: i found it on /etc/X1103:56
sureshotis the syntax for build-essentials in 6.10 the same in 6.06lts03:56
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knovakit is "nvidia"03:56
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: sorry, not sure why it would say that....03:57
S0cratesHOW DO I INSTALL ANJUTA 1.2.4A OR 2.1.1?  The 2.0.2 is in the main repository, and it's broken.03:57
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PeloScooty,  what ?03:57
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sontektachu: under anything inside there? because mine isn't03:57
n-iCeisn't working03:57
rbilknovak: sorry, run out of ideas. if u have proprietary driver installed, I have no idea why it isn't rendering?03:57
IndyGunFreakS0crates: what makes you think its broken?03:57
ubmgrndslm what is the hardware version of the wireless card is it a broadcom or atheros based chipset?03:57
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sureshotpelo what have i done to tick you off03:57
n-iCeIndyGunFreak,  let me do it how you said03:57
tachusontek: just /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's where mine was...03:57
RedRoseHow do i change the screen resolution for tty's?03:57
knovakhmmm, well that sucks03:57
IndyGunFreakn-iCe: it worked fine on my laptop03:57
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grndslmubm:  INTEL!!03:58
S0cratesIndyGunFreak, it's 1 year old beta software.  It crashes often.  The help menu locks up, not integrated with Glade.... etc...03:58
Scootyi've tryed whit"sudo pppoeconf" and it founds only eth0  (sorry for my english)03:58
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sontektachu: I'm not looking for the config, i'm looking for the program that configures X for you03:58
shaun__hello03:58
rbilknovak: maybe someone using that card can help you? state your question, including card you're using03:58
S0cratesIndyGunFreak, sorry, I meant to say "Alpha", not beta03:58
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grndslmubm:  ipw394503:58
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ubmgrndslm get over her so i can slap you lol03:58
sureshotis the syntax for build-essentials in 6.10 the same in 6.06lts03:58
ubmgrndslm ah i hate intel03:58
grndslmseriously?03:58
IndyGunFreakS0crates: i have no idea.. sorry03:58
S0cratesHOW DO I INSTALL ANJUTA 1.2.4A OR 2.1.1?03:58
grndslmi thought it was the easiest for everyone03:58
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Q_Continuumeck: I should be able to do everything from a Ubuntu Live CD, correct? *might head to my house where I have a Live CD available*03:58
grndslmi've never had problems before03:58
IndyGunFreakS0crates: unless you ca find a place to download the source and install it that way03:58
ubmgrndslm yeah seriously not about the slapping part that was a joke but intel sucks ;)03:58
cables!attitude | S0crates03:58
ubotuS0crates: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:58
ScootyPelo: i don't know how to set up my usb modem :(03:59
ubmgrndslm did you install any drivers?03:59
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radar1976hello, I need some help with apache03:59
PeloScooty,  eth0 is your network card on your computer,  that is ok , just fill in the rest , unless you have a router in with case just setup the conneciton in the router03:59
PeloScooty,  what is your native language ?03:59
IndyGunFreakScooty: you'll find instructions at http://www.goodluck.com03:59
grndslmubm:  it was working until earlier today03:59
ubmgrndslm that card should support scanning mode03:59
radar1976my apache is not loading vhosts correctly03:59
grndslmno doubt03:59
knovakAlright, i'm using an Nvidia Geforce MX4000, with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. I can't run 3D games, or even glxgears. When I do, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:59
n-iCeRebooting brb03:59
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ubmgrndslm uh let try this can you remove the card or is it integrated ?03:59
ScootyPelo: romanian03:59
grndslmint03:59
radar1976I have mod_vhost_alias loaded... but not sure if it is loading correctly03:59
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radar1976how cna i check that?03:59
Peloguys, do we have a romanian channel ?03:59
ubmgrndslm ifconfig eth1 down04:00
IndyGunFreaki've saw 1 persson in here get a USB modem figured out... seems it be cheaper to get an ethernet card.. hell theyar elike 10bucks now.04:00
ubmtake it down04:00
ubmthen ifconfig eth1 up04:00
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ubmis the card back up?04:00
dude__hello i need some help an aplication wont stop when told04:00
S0cratescables, I'm from the Gentoo community and am used to a wonderful community that loves to help one another.  Since I started using Ubuntu last month, I've found very little assistance, and am quite disconcerted.  Sorry if I am curt.04:00
IndyGunFreakdude__: feel free to ask.04:00
PeloScooty,   goto  www.uibuntuforum.org and search for your modem maker and model number,  there is a good chance you'll find instructions there04:00
ubmgrndslm use paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  and give me the out for iwconfig eth104:01
IndyGunFreakS0crates: its just USB modems are hard under Ubuntu...04:01
ScootyPelo: ok,thanks a lot04:01
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ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know anything about automounting hard drives04:02
BrendanMHas anyone here tried using Smart package manager on Ubuntu?04:02
yonilevygoing through installing some new hardware - a guide says to edit /etc/modprobe.conf. thing is, i have no /etc/modprobe.conf - only /etc/modprobe.d/* -- what should i do?04:02
cables!fstab | ubuntu_no_worky04:02
ubotuubuntu_no_worky: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:02
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yonilevyanyone knows /etc/modprobe.conf?04:03
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ubmS0crates sorry to hear that mabye you should just give up and go back to gentoo unless of course you want to ask for help and be humble about it rather than comming to #ubuntu to bitch. :)04:03
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ubuntu_no_workyisn't there a program that can automount?04:04
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knovakAlright, i'm using an Nvidia Geforce MX4000, with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. I can't run 3D games, or even glxgears. When I do, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:04
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ubmS0crates what is the problem your having with ubuntu?04:04
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IndyGunFreakubm: we are meanies and won't help him04:04
ubmoh he left good i cant stand complainers04:04
|Jason8|Hey guys, I'm in the command line, and it says gdm is already running.  How can I restart it?04:05
yonilevyi'm using an older version of ubuntu, and i don't have /etc/modprobe.conf but only /etc/modprobe.d/* - a guide is telling me to edit /etc/modprobe.conf - what should i edit instead?04:05
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ice_nineI'm having trouble mounting an iso file. I type 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mnt/iso' and it gives an error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop204:05
ice_ninedmesg | tail shows : Unable to identify CD-ROM format.04:05
IndyGunFreakubm: yeah, he was having probs with a USB modem.. those things never seem to work, its just easier to go get an ethernet card04:05
ubuntu_no_worky!automount04:05
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
eckQ_Continuum: that is correct (sorry, i am semi-afk atm)04:05
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automount drives?04:05
BrendanMhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2177858   <--automounting04:05
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ubuntu_no_workythankies04:05
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ubmIndyGunFreak man i ask for help to just the other week was having an issue with fluxbox and nanutils someone in here was kind enough to help me and i was grateful i waited close to an hour for a response.04:06
Q_Continuumeck: That's fine.  I'm trying the "from USB" instructions on the wiki. (I'd previously done it halfway, not editing everything.  Should work.  If not, I'll be around.)04:06
aesiamunewll if you need a modem, an ethernet card won't work :)04:06
eckok04:06
IndyGunFreakubm: i know, its "i want it, and i want it now, ".. with a lot of people in here...04:06
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aesiamuni come from the slackware community, there's not I want it now :)04:07
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|Jason8|I'm in the command line, and it says gdm is already running.  How can I restart it?04:07
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|Jason8|whoops, sorry04:07
ubmIndyGunFreak when people help one another its a really selfless thing to do time is valuable so when people freely and selfishly sacrifice there personal time to help others its a big deal well to me at least..04:07
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aesiamun|Jason8|: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:07
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|Jason8|thanks :)04:07
aesiamunnp :)04:07
aroonii have a 'wireless presenter mouse 8000' its a bluetooth mouse from M$..... can i install it on ubuntu?04:07
IndyGunFreakubm: no doubt about that04:07
|Jason8|YES, I'M BACK IN A GUI!04:08
BrendanMarooni, almost certainly04:08
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arooniBrendanM: i plugged it in but nothing happens ... :(04:08
ubuntu_no_workymaybe its not partitioned04:08
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ubuntu_no_worky:c04:08
aesiamunarooni: type dmesg right after plugging it in, it might say something04:08
ubuntu_no_workyI dont see it in fstab04:08
BrendanMarooni, you may have to do some tinkering with your xorg.conf file as well04:08
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ubmaesiamum same here man i come from slackware community as well i remember waiting several weeks back in 98 or 99 cant remember but i waited weeks to download all 5 discs and sometimes months for drivers etc..04:08
Artemis3|Jason8|,  you were better as cli04:08
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ubuntu_no_workywhere is the disk partitioner in edgy?04:09
BrendanMI have a wireless (not bluetooth) mouse, and I had to do a little messing04:09
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arooniaesiamun: it said:  input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1.304:09
IndyGunFreakubm: now there's a distro i never tried.04:09
TroutyWho wants to help an Ubuntu newbie with a X Windows problem?04:09
ubmoh and i spent years trying to figure out the directories04:09
comradecis there a way to configure the way X minizmizes windows, so they aren't "iconified"?04:09
aesiamunarooni: then it recognizes it.04:09
Artemis3ubuntu_no_worky, install gparted04:09
aesiamunarooni: what type of mouse did you have before this?04:09
IndyGunFreakubm: geez how long did you have it?...lol04:09
arooniaesiamun: but moving my mouse doesnt do anything :(04:09
ubmIndyGunFreak i really like slackware i dont use it anymore04:09
BrendanMarooni, you'll just need to add a section to xorg.conf to enable it04:09
arooniaesiamun: a regular usb notebook mouse04:09
jaredcould anyone help me with the step on http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/ which says to use recode?04:09
TroutyWell, let me rephrase: Anyone kind enough to help a newbie with an X windows problem please pm me04:09
arooniBrendanM: ok where do i find that file04:09
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arooniand what do i do with it :P04:10
IndyGunFreakubm: well, my understanding is if you cna use slackware, you can use just about any distro..04:10
ubmIndyGunFreak i used slackware for about 2 years then i found out about debian :)04:10
aesiamunarooni: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf check the device section for the mouse, see if it points to /dev/input/mice04:10
jaredwhen I put in the command it says, it tells me  recode: adobe.reg failed: Untranslatable input in step `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968'04:10
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aesiamunif it does, restart X and see if it works.04:10
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Artemis3slackware is simple, debian is not...04:10
Wolvenhavenim trying to install ubuntu server to a server i got, on bootup do i need to chose "install to hd" or "install as LAMP" i want it to be a webserver so LAMP is what it will be, but i didnt know if i needed to do the base install and use packetmanager to get apache/mysql/php or if i should chose LAMP and get it all, does it matter either way?04:10
TroutyI hate spamming a chatroom, should I just throw my question out there?04:10
aesiamunif it doesn't point to /dev/input/mice, change it so that it does :)04:10
Pelocan I make a repo out of a folder ?04:10
IndyGunFreakubm: i've thought about tring a true debian install, but I really like ubuntu, and i'm getting to know my way around it, so i'll just stick with it.04:10
atomikuTrouty: yeah04:11
aesiamunslackware is pure beauty if you like simplicity04:11
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arooniaesiamun: i cant see the mouse listed in xorg.conf04:11
Artemis3ubuntu is putting some sense back...04:11
Clint-I am having a problem whenever i try and update or install anything related to cd buring or media playing it give me a error with nero linux i am running the newest ver of ubuntu04:11
aesiamunarooni: hold on, let me check something.04:11
jaredcould anyone help me with the step on http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/ which says to use recode?04:11
jaredwhen I put in the command it says, it tells me  recode: adobe.reg failed: Untranslatable input in step `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968'04:11
TroutyI am trying to run Ubuntu live off the CD, but both Feisty Fawn Herd 5 and Edgy Eft tell me X Windows had a problem with xorg.conf, and refuses to run. It tells me "No Screens Found"04:11
ubmArtemis3 i use NSLU2/Debian for my linksys NSLU2 device04:11
Z_Morekhow can I completely remove everything related to the lirc driver so I can start from scratch04:11
Artemis3thats cool04:11
aesiamunarooni: see if you can find a section called "InputDevice"04:12
ubmArtemis3 its awesome04:12
arooniaesiamun: i mean i see a section "dev/input/mice" listed but theres no Microsfot stuff04:12
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arooniaesiamun: i see that!04:12
aesiamunarooni: it won't specifiy microsoft period04:12
osotogarihi all, im having trouble getting video to work in totem using Beryl. Im getting the blank video problem. Any help is much appreciated.04:12
arooniheh04:12
ubmArtemis3 you should check out http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ he has some great photos the guy is a freaking debian monster04:12
arooniaesiamun: ok so what should i do now04:12
m4nam using 6.06. it seems the laptop battery monitor has got some bug. While the laptop is working, if I connect the power, the monitor is not updating. Still showing 'Running on battery' Status04:12
aesiamunok, want to have some real fun to see if it works?04:12
arooniabsoultely04:12
jaredAnyone here have Photoshop CS2 running on Ubuntu?04:12
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Clint-m4n: what laptop04:12
Wolvenhavenis there a difference between the default install and using packet manager to get apache/mysql/php or should i just install as LAMP to begin with?04:13
m4nClint-: this is HP04:13
Clint-i had the same problem04:13
m4nClint-: nc640004:13
Pelojared,  I saw an howto on digg a few days ago04:13
ubmsucks though atm im waiting on RC2 as RC1 is broke :(04:13
ZambeziK3B, Nero Linux or burning in Windows?04:13
Artemis3i suppose you can serve torrents from it...04:13
Clint-i reinstalled ubuntu and it worked the 2nd install as did my wireless04:13
jaredyeah I'm looking at a how to that was on digg (got like 16 diggs though) and I can't get past the recode step04:13
aesiamunarooni: drop to the console, hold down ctrl-alt and f1, when there log in as your user and type 'cat /dev/input/mice'  after hitting enter, move the ms mouse around a little.  If you get gobblygook ,then the system recognizes it.  To get back to Gnome, hold down alt and hit F704:13
ubmArtemis3 yeah you can so much with them its nuts i really enjoy mine04:13
BrendanMarooni, you'll need a section like this in your xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8486/04:13
jaredit gives me some weird eror like "untranslatable input in step blah blah blah"04:13
ubuntu_no_workywell gparted shows it as there04:14
ubmAtemis3 oh and very low power usage 15w i think04:14
ubuntu_no_workyis there a program that can mount it?04:14
aesiamunah, evdev?04:14
m4nClint-: now I have another problem. I thought of removing that applet and re-adding. I removed and now I cant see that applet to re-add :(04:14
BrendanMonly the section for "device" will have to match with whatever your mouse is recognized as04:14
aesiamunnever had to use that proto before.04:14
jareddamn lokoing through comments and there are lots of people who have errors with recode, I wonder if someone posted a fix04:14
Artemis3i rarely use a device like that, always having the case open, etc...04:15
arooniBrendanM: i see this when i insert the mouse: [17186971.432000]  input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1.304:15
Peloubuntu_no_worky,  you can mount it manualy,  but as far as auto mount you still need a mound point04:15
arooniBrendanM: so what should i put there for 'device'04:15
ubuntu_no_worky:c04:15
aesiamuncrap vmware server is having issues on feisty.04:15
ubuntu_no_workyshould I just get rid of my second hard drive and use it in windows?04:15
Clint-nerolinux is killing me04:15
Peloubuntu_no_worky,  just make a mount point04:15
garwhy04:16
ubuntu_no_workyisn't there something which can do it for me automatically?04:16
Pelodoes anyone know if I can make a repo  out of a folder  ?04:16
Clint-its giving me a eror04:16
Clint-error 204:16
ubuntu_no_workyanyone know if this will be fixed in feisty?04:16
Clint-exception error04:16
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osotogarihi all, im having trouble getting video to work in totem using Beryl. Im getting the blank video problem. Any help is much appreciated.04:16
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ubmh-bomb hey bro glad you joined :)04:17
h-bomb:)04:17
Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/38050104:17
Clint-if someone got a sec04:17
ubmh-bomb how is that solarwinds package working out for you... :)04:17
h-bombnicelly04:17
BrendanMarooni, there's a way to find out which device the mouse is recognized as. Let me try to look it up. Or if somebody knows? I think it's a cat /dev...something04:17
TroutyI don't mean to be pokey, but did anyone catch my problem or should I try to articulate it better?04:17
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ubuntu_no_workyanyone know a program that will create mount points and mount your drives automatically?04:18
Clint-Trouty: i just restate the problem like every 5 mins04:18
Wolvenhavenlol me too04:18
Wolvenhavenno ones helped sofar :P04:18
Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/380501 <----- need some help04:18
Clint-Wolvenhaven: i can try04:18
aesiamunubuntu_no_worky: wait, what's wrong with just editing fstab?04:18
ubmIndyGunFreak h-bomb is one of my friends here houston actually he is the one who got me to convert from fedora core over to ubuntu :P04:18
aesiamunfedora bugs me.04:19
Clint-as for the other problem i have no clue04:19
Wolvenhaveni want to know what the difference is between installing the default or choosing INSTALL AS LAMP for ubuntuserver04:19
PeloTrouty,   sometimes no one can help,  I suggest you look up your hard ware in the forum04:19
ubuntu_no_workythats to hard04:19
ubuntu_no_workyI like automatix04:19
IndyGunFreakubm: ok..04:19
ubmaesiamun no doubt04:19
IndyGunFreakh-bomb: welcome..04:19
aesiamunwhat's automatix?04:19
Clint-not using server so i have no clue04:19
PeloTrouty,  sometimes noone present can help ...04:19
ubuntu_no_workythe thing that installs everything for u04:19
Artemis3Clint-, nerolinux seems to be bothering04:19
aesiamunubm:  i have to work with rpm distros all day...04:19
Clint-yes04:19
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: if you like automatix, thats why your user name applies..lol04:19
Clint-god04:19
ubuntu_no_workylol04:20
Clint-lol04:20
ubmIndyGunFreak this guys has more networking equipment than i've ever seen in my life.04:20
jaredwhats wrong with automatix?04:20
Artemis3so, purge it ;)04:20
ubuntu_no_workyautomatix is fine indy04:20
Clint-i tried04:20
ubuntu_no_workyhehe04:20
ubmaesiamum are you a sys admin?04:20
aesiamunjust install automatix04:20
h-bombIndyGunFreak: thanks :)04:20
Clint-sudo apt-get remove04:20
Clint-and it errors04:20
Wolvenhavenlol so much for that 0_o04:20
Clint-lol04:20
TroutyI have two 7800 GTs and a Radeon 9200 in a PCI slot.  I am trying to run Ubuntu live off the CD and it tells me X could not load because of the warnings "No matching device section for instance" and the error "No screens found"04:20
Clint-same erroer04:20
m4ncan anyone tell me how to work with data card on ubuntu04:20
aesiamunubm: no software engineer...for an internal distribution of linux based on rhel4/504:20
IndyGunFreakubm: i saw a funny pic online one time.. this guy was trying to organize this server room, it was hilarious, wires all over the place, it was a mess.04:20
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Wolvenhavenwhy do you have 3 gfx cards?!04:21
Clint-3/4 of all progs i try and install error and update dies cause of nero04:21
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Clint-i need to remove nero i think but remove erroers04:21
aesiamunubm: three letter computer company from the 60's...04:21
Troutywindows doesn't allow dual monitors with SLI enabled so I needed a third, but the problem occurs even if I just have one graphics card in04:21
Clint-i dont know its just crap04:21
ubuntu_no_workyanyone know a program that automatically mounts and creates mountpoints for your disks... surely their must be one... u can't expect n00bs to use the commandline04:21
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: actually i've used automatix before also, and had no problems, but you'd swear you're Satans spawn from hell sent to destroy Ubuntu Linux if you bring it up here..lol04:21
Wolvenhavenyes ubuntu04:21
ubuntu_no_workylol04:21
ubuntu_no_workyyeah04:21
Wolvenhaventhere is04:21
ubuntu_no_workyso i notice04:21
Wolvenhavenits under admin controls04:21
Wolvenhavenhd's04:21
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Wolvenhavenyou rightclick on the hd04:22
ubmaesiamun oh i have something for you my friend you will enjoy this its a good read check out Numenta04:22
Wolvenhavenand hit mount or something like that04:22
aesiamunNumenta04:22
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.04:22
ubuntu_no_workywhere is admin controls?04:22
Wolvenhavenim not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure out the exact way04:22
BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, supposedly EasyUbuntu is better than Automatix04:22
IndyGunFreaklook at the repositories as one big stable version of automatix..lol04:22
Clint-anyone04:22
Clint-?04:22
Artemis3automatix or automatix2?04:22
ubuntu_no_workyautomatix204:22
Clint-how to remove nerolinux compeatly04:22
aesiamunubm: is it a book?04:22
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IndyGunFreakArtemis3: i've not had probs out of either, but unless you want a tongue lashing...04:22
BrendanMarooni, try cat /proc/input/devices  see what it reports for your mouse04:23
ubuntu_no_workyanyone know where the admin tools are04:23
IndyGunFreakWolvenhaven: sorry...04:23
Wolvenhaven:P04:23
IndyGunFreakgood gracious i just screwed up my theme, brb.04:23
Wolvenhavencause im looking at the install guide04:23
IndyGunFreaklol04:23
Wolvenhavenand nothing there talks about the difference between default and LAMP04:23
Clint-i can pastebin it04:23
ubmaesiamun i dont want to ruin the experience for you. Its a company... You really need to check it out.04:23
Artemis3IndyGunFreak, its simply unsuported and at your own risk dont blame canonical for breaking your system, etc.04:23
Artemis3hehehe04:24
aesiamunubm: going to numenta.com04:24
aesiamunBrendanM: cat /proc/devices04:24
ubmaesiamun check out the front page04:24
Trouty<IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.04:24
Trouty<ubuntu_no_worky> where is admin controls?04:24
Trouty<Wolvenhaven> im not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure04:24
Trouty<IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.04:24
Trouty<ubuntu_no_worky> where is admin controls?04:24
Trouty<Wolvenhaven> im not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure04:24
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Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/38051204:24
weebitwow im glad no one told me i was a n00b when i installed linux for the first time and went straight to the command line.  lol  I would of been screwed.04:24
IndyGunFreakTrouty: thats what i told him,04:24
Clint-if someone can look04:24
Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/38051204:24
aesiamunubm: lol nice04:24
Clint-nero is killing me04:24
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ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know of a program to set up your hard drives automatically04:24
Wolvenhaventrouty you didnt even take the whole thing04:24
ubuntu_no_worky?04:24
Artemis3with coming festy the likes of automatix are getting less needed anyway, which is good imo04:24
Wolvenhaveni was talking about mounting a hd04:25
ubuntu_no_workyI got nerolinux working04:25
ubuntu_no_workyI had to make my own icon though04:25
ubuntu_no_workythat was a pain04:25
IndyGunFreaknerolinux?04:25
Troutyhm?04:25
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Chefneurolinux?04:25
Artemis3making a .desktop file is a pain?04:25
Troutythat's weird....why did I just repeat saying that...nevermind04:25
aesiamunubm: oooh they have downloadable software04:25
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BrendanMWolvenhaven, my understanding is that LAMP installs extra components04:25
ubmaesiamun that is every developers dream to capture the human brain and true AI ya know.04:25
ubuntu_no_workyyeah04:25
Artemis3just copy it form another one ;)04:25
ubmaesiamun yes04:25
ubuntu_no_workythere wasn't one to copy04:25
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: is tha tlike Nero, the popular CD burning software04:25
ubuntu_no_workyyes04:25
Wolvenhavenso its just extra components and not a different install?04:25
ubuntu_no_workynerolinux off nero.com04:25
Artemis3oh, there are lots of em, locate .desktop ^^04:26
ubmaesiamun check it out you can also contribute as well plus i think they are hiring atm ;)04:26
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: you know there's GnomeBaker and K3b, both very good CD burners in the repositories, that take about 10sec to install.04:26
Wolvenhaventhanks brendan04:26
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aesiamunubm: cool, thanks :)04:26
ubuntu_no_workyewww04:26
Wolvenhavenif it doesnt work i can always ghost the drives :P04:26
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ubuntu_no_workygnomebaker and k3b are both unstable04:26
ubuntu_no_workyLOL04:26
Dna^hello04:26
Artemis3hehe, but that app should go into commercial04:26
aesiamunubuntu_no_worky: nerolinux is no gift from god04:26
cablesI can't stand nero, it pisses me off.04:26
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: ?  I'm starting to think youre unstable..lol, gnomebaker has been flawless for me04:26
BrendanMarooni, did you find it?04:27
ubuntu_no_workyi tried them04:27
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Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/380512 anyone that can help04:27
Artemis3they dont seem unstable, but brasero is quite a backstabber04:27
ubuntu_no_workybut both burned more coasters04:27
ubuntu_no_workythan cds04:27
cablesI love how Ubuntu can burn an ISO just by rightclicking on it.04:27
ubuntu_no_workynerolinux works great04:27
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: i believe you... i just donm't undersstand why you were havin the issue.04:27
cablesAnd copy a CD04:27
Clint-lol04:27
Artemis3what drive?04:27
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BrendanMOr I guess they left already. *sigh*04:27
crdlbthey all use cdrecord04:27
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know a program to automount drives04:27
Artemis3i have lots of coasters thanks to brasero idiocy04:27
ubuntu_no_workyand mountpoints04:27
aesiamunoh well.04:27
Clint-jesus04:27
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: what is brasero?04:27
Artemis3but in another machine it works perfectly04:27
aesiamunubuntu_no_worky: what about autofs?04:27
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crdlb!brasero04:27
ubotubrasero: CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 520 kB, installed size 1172 kB04:27
vox754!brasero04:28
IndyGunFreakcrdlb: oh ok.. thanks04:28
Clint-can someone tell me how to compleatly remove nero linux and then reinstall04:28
IndyGunFreaksurprising i've never used it... Gnomebaker has just always worked well for me04:28
Clint-cause even updating dont work04:28
Dna^somebody has tried to install counter-strike on ubuntu?04:28
ubmClint- what repositories are you using?04:28
BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html04:28
Clint-all 304:28
Clint-universe multiverse04:28
aesiamunBrendanM: thanks...was looking for that04:28
Clint-and the other one04:28
Artemis3because gnomebaker uses cdrecord, which in turns doesnt handle multisession dvds, unless you used a patched cdrecord...04:29
ubmClint- heh did you try forcing ?04:29
aesiamungozillion04:29
aesiamunhehe04:29
Clint-how04:29
Clint-?04:29
IndyGunFreakClint-: why don[t you just use gnomebaker?04:29
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Artemis3instead, brasero uses growisofs which handles multisession dvds, but won't make pure udf...04:29
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: this is true, but k3b, i'm pretty sure handles multisessions fine04:29
BrendanMhe's not going to want to read it...04:29
ubuntu_no_workyYAY!!!!04:29
ubuntu_no_workythankies04:29
Artemis3yes k3b is fine04:29
Clint-IndyGunFreak: my problem is the fact that 3/4 of the things i try to update or install fail with nero04:29
Clint-i dont like nero on linux or windows04:29
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aesiamunBrendanM: autofs is fine, I use it all the time.  In fact, it took 2 seconds to enable /net for my nfs mounts04:30
IndyGunFreakClint-: i'm with you, i used a freebie off majorgeeks called DeepBurn under windows.04:30
IndyGunFreakClint-: update or install what?04:30
Clint-http://www.pastebin.ca/38051204:30
Clint-u see that04:30
Clint-that to remove04:30
vox754Artemis3, you mean it can split a DVD double layer into two single layer DVD?04:30
IndyGunFreakok.04:30
ubuntu_no_workywhere do I download it at?04:30
Clint-same error04:30
Clint-when i try and say install xgine04:30
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Artemis3what? no thats another matter entirely04:30
aroonihey folks.....04:30
Clint-or any program using video or audio04:30
BrendanMI'm sure it's fine, but I get the strong feeling he wants a one-click, no CLI solution04:30
bruenig!enter | Clint-04:31
ubotuClint-: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:31
Clint-lol04:31
aesiamununfortunately he's in the wrong OS for that.04:31
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Clint-ty for reminding me04:31
ubmClint- the only way possible would be to grab the dependencies and compile from source then install ..04:31
Artemis3Clint-, because apt system is blocked by that partial nero install04:31
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aroonimy synaptics touchpas *used* to have this cool thing that if you moved up and down to the far right of it... it'd move the page up and down04:31
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: yep04:31
arooniis there a way of doing htis now?04:31
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aroonion linux?  (versus winbloz)04:31
Clint-well should i reinstall or is there a way to fix cause this has been from day 104:31
BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, type "sudo apt-get install autofs"04:32
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IndyGunFreakClint-: how to fix... sudo apt-get install gnomebaker04:32
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Clint-will that overwrite nero04:32
bruenignerolinux is a joke04:32
cuscodudes what is it that I must do to make gmplayer work04:32
Artemis3i think he needs to force purge the nero package before anything04:32
bruenigClint-, seriously nerolinux is total garbage04:32
cuscoit says no videooutput04:32
ubmnero is a joke period :)04:32
Clint-i know04:32
Clint-how do i get rid of it04:32
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TheVaultI got a question. Is there a program for ubuntu that is similar to the Mac OS X Dock?04:32
Artemis3there is a command line for it, probably with dpkg04:32
Clint-yes04:32
BrendanMTheVault, yes04:33
bruenigClint-, was it a deb?04:33
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: yeah, you can try searching nero in Synaptic Package Manager, then search for Nero, and mark for complete removal04:33
ubuntu_no_worky:c do i have to recompile my kernel?  seems harder than this fstab stuff04:33
IndyGunFreakbruenig: i think he sourced it..04:33
TheVaultBrendanM: Whats the name?04:33
ubmTheVault hey man hows that wireless card working out?04:33
garCan I run ubuntu on my ppc?04:33
Clint-it was either defualt installed or installed when i updated04:33
marx2kyup04:33
marx2k!ppc04:33
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.04:33
TheVaultubm: EXCELLENT!04:33
Artemis3gar, yes04:33
BrendanMTheVault, there are actually "docks" for Linux that perform very similarly. I've never used them, but just google around04:33
cables!ppc | gar04:33
ubotugar: please see above04:33
bruenigif he sourced it, apt would not have problems04:33
ubmTheVault good deal man!04:33
bruenigunless he checkinstalled it04:33
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garabove what04:33
TheVaultYeah, but I am on my desktop now UBM, installed it here04:33
vox754Clint-, you can always "rm" (remove) all files but that is kind of creepy.04:33
IndyGunFreakWireless, thats my next challenge, i've got dual displays, up, wireless is next.04:34
Clint-brurm -rf04:34
Artemis3gar hehe just try to use something not too old04:34
Clint-err rm -rf04:34
Clint-yes04:34
IndyGunFreakbut i'm gonna tke a break first.. 17hrs to get dual displays, it warped my noggin04:34
BrendanMTheValve, try this: http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Finally_A_Great_OSX_Like_Dock_For_Linux_Thanks_To_Google04:34
Artemis3no04:34
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Clint-but i wanna system uninstall it04:34
garis there a website dedicated to this sort of thing?04:34
vox754IndyGunFreak, how long have you been here? I'd say a month?04:34
BrendanMer, TheVault, not the TheValve. It's later04:34
ubmTheVault hehe just be careful linux is highly addictive and there is no cure :)04:34
Artemis3gar ppc support is official this place should do, or the forums04:34
cablesgar, I assume you mean power pc not pocket pc...04:34
IndyGunFreakvox754: somethin like that maybe a little longer.04:34
garyeah powerpc04:35
IndyGunFreakvox754: why do you ask?04:35
TheVaultubm: You got that right04:35
bruenigClint-, yeah that isn't going to happen, you are just going to have to rm everything04:35
garnooo04:35
garI mean pocketpc04:35
bruenigClint-, do you know where it installed?04:35
Clint-jesus04:35
yonilevyNo1 knows? how come i don't have a /etc/modprobe.conf file?04:35
Artemis3gar no wait, i think they are ending it.... starting from feisty :(04:35
Clint-yes04:35
ubmTheVault now you can hang out in here with the rest of us and help people with the same issue :)04:35
gara cell phone04:35
Clint-whereis nero04:35
Clint-shows me all04:35
cablesgar, then nope.04:35
vox754IndyGunFreak, just curious. I installed Ubuntu on December, and got the wireless working on February.04:35
garnooooo :(04:35
TheVaultubm: yuppers, but I am no professional04:35
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yonilevyneed help with /etc/modprobe.conf04:35
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ubmClint- try searching /usr/bin04:35
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bruenigClint-, then rm it04:35
bruenigit would probably be /usr/local/bin unless nero is stupid04:36
IndyGunFreakvox754: lol... i've had Ubuntu since around Jul... but i think I first started coming here around early jan.. so its been a little over a month.04:36
ubmthe sudo rm -Rf nero*04:36
ubuntu_no_workyhow do I start autofs?  i installed it via synaptic but no icons?04:36
Clint-sec ill del all traces of nero04:36
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Artemis3gar, until edgy you could simply install it as long as you have more than 64mb of ram (for alternate cd install)04:36
garI've heard you can run the fedora core on it.04:36
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, try running "autofs" in terminal perhaps04:36
ubuntu_no_workyits a no go04:36
TheVaultubm: you on msn?04:36
vox754IndyGunFreak, yep, you are already a regular... good work!04:36
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IndyGunFreakgar: run FC on what?04:36
ubuntu_no_workycommand not found04:36
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omegabeta!ntfd04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
omegabeta!ntfs04:36
bruenigUbugtu, try au <tab> <tab>04:37
Clint-deleted04:37
garppc-6700 similar to this - http://shadowmite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127604:37
Clint-in one line04:37
Artemis36700?04:37
rpcanyone fancy checking if this path exists on ubuntu? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/04:37
Artemis3hmmm04:37
ubmTheVault nah not atm im about to leave my little brother's band is playing tonight promised i would show up...04:37
aroonimy synaptics touchpas *used* to have this cool thing that if you moved up and down to the far right of it... it'd move the page up and down04:37
vox754Clint-, first update your database "sudo updatedb" then "sudo locate <file>" in your case "nero" or whatever specifics you have.04:37
BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, this howto has tons of information: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html04:37
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, that was for you04:37
IndyGunFreakvox754: well, 1.  I have no life... at all...lol.  2.  I broke my ankle about a week and a half ago, thus why i'ev been here close to 24hrs(and also why i was able to spend 17hrs working on dual displays w/o consequnce)04:37
ubmill be back around beer 30 though :)04:37
IndyGunFreaklol04:37
TheVaultubm: ahh ok...well have fun04:37
BrendanMarooni, you're back04:37
aroonialso.... how do i get the equivalent of the 'kazaa lite codec pack' :P04:37
ubuntu_no_workyugg...04:37
arooniBrendanM: yup04:37
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ubuntu_no_workysurely to god someone wrote a program for noobs to set up a second harddrive04:37
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bruenig!codecs | arooni04:38
ubotuarooni: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:38
ubuntu_no_workywill feisty fix this?04:38
omegabetaQuestion: Is there a way to tranfer files from ubuntu  to ntsf/xp directory's? (so drag and drop from home to sbd1)04:38
BrendanMarooni, did you get the mouse working? Also, you'll probably want qsynaptics to help you configure the touchpad04:38
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bruenigubuntu_no_worky, it is called mount04:38
rpccome on my lazy friends... anyone who can check this path for me? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ does it exist?04:38
vox754IndyGunFreak, did you mention about the foot before? I kind of remember that...04:38
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, learn it04:38
ubmTheVault if you need some help ask IndyGunFreak hehe04:38
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: feisty will cause you more problems than it fixes..04:38
garyeah, htc ppc670004:38
Artemis3gar, that is not a powerpc04:38
TheVaultSure will ubm04:38
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IndyGunFreakubm: lol04:38
arooniBrendanM: never got the mouse working04:38
garI said pocketpc04:38
garor that's what I meant, sorry04:38
IndyGunFreakvox754: yeah, i might have in off-topic, if you're ever there.04:38
BrendanMTheVault, did you check this out: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/  it looks to be exactly what you want.04:38
ubuntu_no_workylol... this is why linux is never gonna make it04:38
ubmIndyGunFreak im just waiting for you're fingers to fall off from all the typing you do :P04:38
Clint-sudo updatedb hangs up04:38
IndyGunFreakubm: lol, i'm a typin maniac04:39
Artemis3gar, ok, then no ubuntu supports x86 and x86-64 oonly04:39
TheVaultBrendanM: I'll check that out now04:39
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, how hard is mount /dev/hdb /mount/point04:39
Clint-nvm04:39
bruenigseriously04:39
ubuntu_no_workyshould this sort of thing be automatic like windows04:39
BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, why because you have to read things to make your computer work?04:39
arooniBrendanM: once i install qsynaptics... do i use the system => settinsg => mouse04:39
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IndyGunFreakubm: i'll tell you a funny story sometime about when I was a freshman in highschool, never had a typing class, what i did to my teacher04:39
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vox754!offtopic > IndyGunFreak04:39
ubuntu_no_workywell yeah.... thats why windows became popular... over dos04:39
bruenigBrendanM, we all know people hate reading, see USA04:39
BrendanMarooni, no qsynaptics is its own program.04:39
ubmIndyGunFreak yeah you are true guru ill give ya that04:39
ubuntu_no_workypeople don have 999999 hours to set this stuff up04:39
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IndyGunFreakubm: of typing only04:39
Clint-vox754: okey i updated and located u want me to remove them all04:39
Clint-?04:39
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, learning mount takes 2-3 min max04:39
Q_Continuumeck: So far so good.  Running slow, but running....04:39
TheVaultBrendanM: Yeah, thats exactly what I was wanting, Thank you :)04:39
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ubuntu_no_workyand setting up printers and burning programs and wine04:40
BrendanMTheVault, it looks so sweet it makes me wish I were running GNOME.04:40
arooniBrendanM: when i open it i see 'pleas install the synaptics touchpad driver'... how can i do this?04:40
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, setting up burning programs, you mean like "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker"04:40
ubuntu_no_workyand and fixing x when updates break it04:40
bruenigoh gees hard hard04:40
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IndyGunFreakbruenig: i've suggested that like 4x04:40
ubuntu_no_workylike nerolinux because gnomebacker blows and only makes coasters04:40
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, wine is not a fair assault because you are running a non native program, of course there is going to be added problems04:40
Clint-vox754: okey i updated and located u want me to remove them all04:40
vox754Clint-, it takes time to update the database. You COULD try removing, but that is up to you. I've done it succesfully with small programs like ndiswrapper, but others may need dependencies, and there is where it may break.04:40
bruenigubuntu_no_worky, nerolinux is a joke, I have used it, its functionality is nothing04:40
ubmIndyGunFreak let me know when you get that usb port installed in your head i want to know how it works out for you...  :P hahaha04:40
IndyGunFreakbruenig: he could install the "easy" cd burner.. sudo apt-get install k3b04:41
ubuntu_no_workybetter to have something than just coasters04:41
IndyGunFreakubm: lol04:41
BrendanMarooni, there's a setting to change in xorg.conf. Lets get your USB mouse working first and then I'll help you with qsynaptics.04:41
ubuntu_no_workyk3b crashes too04:41
bruenigk3b is good, or just use cdrecord04:41
bruenigwoo04:41
Artemis3what drive brand and model you have?04:41
IndyGunFreakubuntu_no_worky: i don't know then, you're other linux native apps are x-cdroast(which i hate), or gnomebaker04:41
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arooniBrendanM: ok ... lets focus on the USB bluetooth mouse.... we have verfied that the mouse is detected when its inserted04:41
ubuntu_no_workyasus 1608p with latest firmware04:41
arooniBrendanM: whats the next step04:41
ubuntu_no_workyanywho04:42
kalorinso I suppose it'd be too much to ask if linux actually has a GUI interface for making software raids?04:42
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ubmok.. i really got to go now04:42
garcan I use samba in active directory?04:42
ubuntu_no_workyI hope feisty automounts drives...04:42
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ubuntu_no_workyit think its silly not to04:42
vox754bruenig, just a small question, do you know what is ubotu's command that tells you if there is a specific nick in the channel?04:42
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IndyGunFreakubm_away: later04:42
bruenig!offtopic | ubuntu_no_worky go cry somewhere else seriously04:42
ubotuubuntu_no_worky go cry somewhere else seriously: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:42
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AnohaaktenHey everyone04:42
bruenigvox754, !seen whatever04:42
aroonihow can list all commands i entered04:43
Artemis3ubuntu_no_worky, is it pata? is it alone in the cable?04:43
bruenigthat does it for all freenode though I think04:43
vox754!seen bruenig04:43
AnohaaktenHey guys, can I get some help with installing ubuntu?04:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen bruenig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
IndyGunFreakh-bomb: ubm is a good guy04:43
Clint-vox754: all are removed04:43
bruenigwha04:43
vox754bruenig, danke!04:43
ubuntu_no_workysata04:43
BrendanMarooni, in the command-line, type "cat /proc/devices" and see if there's a reference to your USB mouse04:43
IndyGunFreakAnohaakten: jus ask, if we can help, we all will04:43
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Artemis3strange...04:43
h-bombIndyGunFreak: yes he is :)04:43
bruenigperhaps they edited that out04:43
Anohaaktenalrighty cool04:43
vox754Clint-, then good luck with whatever you are doing!04:43
TheVaultlater ubm04:43
Clint-lol04:43
Clint-lmao04:43
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IndyGunFreakvox754: lol04:44
Anohaaktenok, so, I installed ubuntu version 6.10 but could not seem to get it to recognize my Linksys WPC54G wireless card04:44
Clint-hrmm04:44
AnohaaktenI researched all over the net and I cannot seem to find a driver for it04:44
IndyGunFreak!wireless04:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:44
arooniBrendanM: have a look: http://pastie.caboo.se/4453604:44
h-bombman04:44
h-bombill tell ya what04:44
vox754IndyGunFreak, what?! I'm always serious with what I suggest.04:44
vox754Anohaakten, WAIT, I have a link for you04:45
Clint-vox754:  ummm should i just reinstall?04:45
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Q_Continuumeck: Live CD booted off the USB drive...we're doin good so far... :D04:45
h-bombi love ubuntu, but the broadcom wireless support has got to get better04:45
IndyGunFreakvox754: so am i, but sometimes, i just sense sarcasm..lol04:45
kalorinok04:45
omegabetaLogin: Panic :Trap :cpu0 "Operation illegal"04:45
kalorinopinions04:45
h-bombits a freaking nightmare04:45
IndyGunFreakh-bomb: i think i read somewhere, on a list of "goals" for feisty, one of them was to make wireless setup easier04:45
dtsis there any OSS tools that come close to OneNote?04:45
BrendanMubtunu_no_worky, I personally agree with you that all drives should always be automounted all the time (I can't imagine a time when I'd want a drive connected but not mounted?) but that's just not how Linux is, so you can either learn to deal with it, or write your own software to change it (isn't open source cool?).04:45
Artemis3they need the linux mint thingie04:45
kalorinI've got two 400gb SATA drives. I was going to mirror them in the bios, but now come to find out that's software raid and flaky at best, might as well do it in the kernel04:46
Artemis3of course you could install that package from their evil repo...04:46
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: you ever tried LinuxMinut?04:46
IndyGunFreakLinuxMint04:46
Artemis3yes04:46
vox754IndyGunFreak, actually I got here late, so I have little clue of what this guy is doing.04:46
kalorinis it worth doing that, or would it be better to just partition out the other drive identically and dd things every day or so?04:46
kelsinAnohaakten: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564504:46
eckQ_Continuum: sounds promising04:46
kalorincause then I'd get undelete so to speak04:46
Artemis3there is a gui thing that lets you use ndiswrapper windows drivers04:46
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h-bombIndyGunFreak: i hope so, cause of the inability of dapper and edgy to work with my broadcom wireless on my dell lappy is the only thing keeping me from useing ubuntu on it04:46
h-bomb:(04:46
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: is it pretty good?  I've heard its as good as ubuntu, jus don't have to worry about multimedia codecs, etc.04:46
arooniBrendanM: ok not sure what to do next04:46
ubuntu_no_workyanyone know how to automatically install and mount extra sata hardrives?04:46
rotarisedHello all. I would like to install a true-type font (.ttf file) on my freshly installed Edgy Eft. So I tried to paste and also drag the file into the 'Fonts' folder. But the font folder's paste command is greyed. So how do I go about installing a specific font?04:46
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IndyGunFreakh-bomb: if its got a broadcom chipset, it should work i think..04:47
eckubuntu_no_worky: gnome should do that04:47
vox754Anohaakten, http://linux-wless.passys.nl/04:47
Artemis3kind of its almost ubuntu with a couple of packages and different artwork04:47
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Artemis3but it seems to be moving04:47
BrendanMarooni, did you type "cat /proc/devices"04:47
kalorinrotarised: sudo cp <font> <folder>04:47
ubuntu_no_workyhahah IT SHOULD shouldn't it ^_^04:47
ubuntu_no_workyI agree04:47
kalorinthen sudo fc-cache -f -V <folder it was copied to>04:47
Jarhead756i was wondering, what will happen in dapper come daylight savings time? will it auto adjust?04:47
eshaasesorry if someone had already answered my question from before as I got disconnected but heres my problem: i'm setting up a somewhat complicated partitioning scheme using lvm and vgdisplay seems to incorreclty display the correct size of my volume groups, any ideas about how I should approach this?04:47
eckubuntu_no_worky: can you do it manually?04:47
rotarisedi think i tried that before. but i'll try again04:47
omegabetaQuestion : I have compiled Qt from scratch, installed the libs etc and i still get errors that i dont have Qt 25.<>4 lib-mt  what does this mean?04:47
kalorinjarhead, it's complaint with the new DST04:47
ubuntu_no_workyim too stupid04:47
Jarhead756kalorin: meaning?04:48
kalorinit's already set for the new DST stuff04:48
h-bombIndyGunFreak: it does somewhat, like it took 3 hours of tinkering and howtos and whatnot just to get it to recognize, after that its very flaky, ie, wont connect half time, have to do everything manually via cli when i was to do anything such as scan, connect, etc, also it doesnt connect at the full speeds, max is 11mbps04:48
BrendanMok, arooni, lemme look at your pastebin04:48
eckubuntu_no_worky: check that the kernel can see the device (with dmesg) and then use the mount command04:48
arooniBrendanM: i did, take a look at input  http://pastie.caboo.se/4453604:48
kalorinat least 6.10 is04:48
h-bombIndyGunFreak: half the time that doesnt work and i tryed on both dapper and edgy04:48
IndyGunFreakh-bomb: hmm.04:48
h-bombindeed04:48
IndyGunFreakdidn't realize it was that unstable.04:48
ubuntu_no_workyI can see it in gparted and device manager(aka viewer)04:48
Artemis3but i think feisty is including another gui for wireless setups, there is a problem with people roaming from manual config to dhcp enviroments..04:48
Jarhead756kalorin: when is dst?04:49
h-bombIndyGunFreak: its very unstable04:49
kalorinmarch 11th04:49
ubuntu_no_workyisn't there a program for doing this automatically though?04:49
Q_Continuumeck: partitioning.  Looks like its gonna work fine. :D  *Dances*04:49
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eckQ_Continuum: excellent :-)04:49
vox754ubuntu_no_worky, the installation automatically sets mount points and creates a proper "fstab" file, so don't complain about that; if you want to add more drives that is not hard, just give me a second.04:49
Jarhead756kalorin: so will it auto adjust?04:49
h-bombArtemis3: indeed04:49
Q_Continuumeck: Followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick04:49
IndyGunFreakh-bomb: maybe i'll put off learning wireless w/ ubuntu until Ubuntu 12.09 "Kooky Kangaroo".. :)04:49
omegabetaQuestion: Is there a way to tranfer files from ubuntu  to ntsf/xp directory's? (so drag and drop from home to sbd1)04:49
h-bombIndyGunFreak: i would reccomend that04:49
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IndyGunFreaki think by then they'll have it figured out.04:49
h-bombIndyGunFreak: at least with broadcom wireless chipsets04:49
Q_Continuumeck: Now I have to find a (smaller) flash drive that is mine (not my roommate's) that I can leave this on :P04:50
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Artemis3hahaha kooky?04:50
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h-bombrofl04:50
Dr_willisomegabeta,  thers ways to read/write to ntfs. (not adviseable) and windowsxp can read/write to ext2/3 partitions04:50
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IndyGunFreakArtemis3: it was the only thing i could come up with quick04:50
ubuntu_no_workyi installed edgy with this drive in the machine :c04:50
Dr_williswith the right tools04:50
Dr_willis!ifs04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
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Dr_willis!ext204:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
Dr_willis!ext304:50
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org04:50
Artemis3it seems to follow the pattern just fine04:50
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: isn't that the truth!04:50
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IndyGunFreakArtemis3: I'm convinced the next one is gonna be "Grump Gorrilla"04:50
ubuntu_no_worky!just work04:50
IndyGunFreakGrumpy, that is.04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about just work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
ubuntu_no_workyhahahah04:51
IndyGunFreak!justwork04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about justwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
ubuntu_no_workyroflao04:51
Dr_willisFlacculating Fawn04:51
BrendanMok, arooni, I think I found it. Try this "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"04:51
ubuntu_no_workyLOL04:51
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Artemis3nope, f is already taken04:51
h-bomb!supportbroadcomwirelesschipsets04:51
IndyGunFreakFlaming Flamingo04:51
Anohaaktenguys do they ahve itunes for linux? (ubuntu)04:51
Artemis3its g alright04:51
h-bomblol04:51
IndyGunFreakAnohaakten: i don't think so.04:51
Dr_willisGyrating Giraffe04:51
vox754Anohaakten, search the forums for WPC54G http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324967&highlight=WPC54G04:51
Anohaaktenalright, thakn you04:51
IndyGunFreakDr_willis: lol04:51
snaef999hey can somebody help me with an apt update issue?  Ive been away from Ubuntu for a while, but now im back and am trying to do an update and all the sources fail to download.  Can anybody help?04:52
IndyGunFreakGoofy Gopher04:52
Artemis3ganguro girl? oh that doesnt count ;)04:52
Dr_willisGuano Girl? eww04:52
tonyyarusso!itunes | Anohaakten04:52
ubotuAnohaakten: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee04:52
vox754h-bomb, look here http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/04:53
Artemis3hehe no no, that was a japanese fashion of darkening the skin and using yellow hair ^^04:53
h-bombvox754: ok04:53
vox754Anohaakten, your version is important WPC54G v.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 there are many.04:53
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doff!ping04:53
ubotupong04:53
Dr_willisArtemis3,  that describes my wifes last trip to the beauty saloon04:54
arooniBrendanM: i did, take a look at input  http://pastie.caboo.se/4453604:54
IndyGunFreaklol04:54
arooniBrendanM: i think we're talkin about :  Product=Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 800004:54
kalorinso anyone got any thoughts on raid mirroring in the kernel or doing a dd to start and then rsyncing after that?04:54
Artemis3^^!04:54
h-bombvox754: hmm i wonder if that will solve all the instability issues with it and restore the speed from 11mbps to 5404:54
Jarhead756anyone try the new version of wine? any interesting updates?04:54
LazergunzHow do I set XMMS as my default media player?04:54
kalorinthe rsync method obviously gives me "undelete" or sorts04:54
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: sudo apt-get install xmms04:54
vox754h-bomb, you mean, it works but not as fast?04:55
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IndyGunFreakthen right click(say an mp3), choose properties, permissions, an choose xmms04:55
kalorinjarhead: it almost sort of allowed me to install photoshop elements 4 the other night04:55
kalorinbut crashed when it got ready to copy files to the harddisk04:55
BrendanMarooni, that looks good. One more, try "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" and look for the line that says "Handlers =" associated with your mouse04:55
h-bombvox754: when it works, half the time it doesnt, extremely unstable04:55
kalorinso no idea if it'd work or not04:55
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Jarhead756Anohaakten: you may want to take a look at songbird (just like itunes almost) but i like amarok better.04:55
arooniwhat is the shortcut to copy and paste from my console?04:55
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yeahlolgfsdfhelp04:55
yeahlolgfsdfhow do I use IRC?04:55
Jarhead756kalorin: got any clue about cs2?04:55
eckarooni: highlight and middle click04:56
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kalorinI've heard it does that, but I don't have a copy04:56
Jarhead756yeahlolgfsdf: you're using it right now aren't you?04:56
eckalso shift insert04:56
kalorinif I did I'd know04:56
arooniBrendanM: ok the one frot the mouse is: H: Handlers=kbd mouse3 event6 ts204:56
Artemis3arooni, anything selected is already copied if you use middle button it is pasted04:56
doffarooni, ctrl+insert = ctrl+c, shift+insert = ctrl+v04:56
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kalorincause that's the one single app that I really wish more than any others ran under linux04:56
yeahlolgfsdfyeah...but I completely new to it04:56
Jarhead756kalorin: what do you mean you heard it?04:56
kalorinin fact, I have vmware installed just because of that ;(04:56
kalorinI've heard of folks having good luck with wine and cs204:56
arooniwow04:56
arooniH: Handlers=mouse1 event5 ts104:56
kalorinI don't own it04:56
Dr_willisyeahlolgfsdf,  thers this stuff called 'documention' :)04:56
Dr_willis!irc04:56
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines04:56
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yeahlolgfsdfright...04:57
Jarhead756anyone know for a fact if photoshop cs2 works within newest version of wine?04:57
aroonidoes that middle click thing work *anywhere* in linux04:57
BrendanMarooni, fantastic. so in your xorg.conf, you'll want to add the section that I gave you before, only for "Device" put mouse104:57
yeahlolgfsdfwhere is that documentation04:57
BrendanMarooni, because mouse1 is one of the names Linux is using to address your mouse04:57
doffbtw how can I install direct 3d wine version? wha'ts the name of the package?04:57
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IndyGunFreakdoff: ? direct 3d wine version04:58
Artemis3try photoshop alternatives like gimp and krita04:58
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doffyes04:58
kalorinkrita?04:58
arooniBrendanM: ok i made that chage.... what should i do now04:58
Artemis3yah04:58
h-bombvox754: i also dont like how i have to manaully change the accesspoints and passphrases in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf everytime, im always going to different places with my laptop, extremely inconvient (sp)04:58
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IndyGunFreakkrita?04:58
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know a way to automount and automatically make mountpoints?04:58
doffIndyGunFreak, something like winex but there's no such package04:58
IndyGunFreak!krita04:58
Artemis3...04:58
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB04:58
LazergunzIndyGunFreak: I don't want to install XMMS, I want to set it as a default to open media files of its type. I.e .mp3 :)04:58
vox754Attention everyone, "ndiswrapper 1.38" is out now.04:58
aroonii.e. mouse still aint workin :(04:58
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Anohaaktenugh, why cant linux just make it simple to install a driver...ugh04:58
techiecan anybody help? How do you deal with the browser resolution. Somehow, though subtle, it seems that the screen is a bit "fuzzy" any recommended fonts or settings for the firefox browser? Thanks.04:58
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BrendanMarooni, were you able to save xorg.conf? You'll want to restart the x-server, I think it's ctrl+alt+backspace, right?04:58
Anohaaktenyou have to do everything in terminal?04:58
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: right click an mp3.. choose properties, then Permissions, then choose Xmms04:59
yeahlolgfsdfcan someone help me install ubuntu?04:59
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doff!wine04:59
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:59
Artemis3Anohaakten, its simple, you don't. If something is not supported, the manufacturer never released specs of it04:59
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Anohaaktenwell...I need to install a driver for my wireless internet...04:59
jaredyeahlolgfsdf: what do you need help with?04:59
vox754Anohaakten, did you followed the links for the wireless card? can you give more info?05:00
Anohaaktenfor my wpc54g05:00
yeahlolgfsdfwell I have a LiveCD05:00
Anohaaktensure did vox05:00
yeahlolgfsdfof ubuntu05:00
Anohaaktenits reaaaaaaaaaaaal confusing to a linux rookie05:00
jaredok05:00
Anohaaktensince I do not know linux code05:00
jaredhave you booted off it yet?05:00
vox754ubuntu_no_worky, go to #vocx05:00
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yeahlolgfsdfand I want to install it...i run it under safe graphics mode,because I can't run it in install mode because of a X server problem05:00
eckAnohaakten: if its not included with ubuntu it probably doesn't exist for your hardware05:00
doffyeahlolgfsdf,  I think everybody installed it from live cd or it's image :D05:00
vox754Anohaakten, go to #vocx05:00
Anohaaktenwhats there?05:00
eckAnohaakten: or else the driver is non-free and cannot be distributed05:00
Glencheck: au contraire05:00
GlenchI'm having my owns et of wireless problems05:00
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Glenchs/owns et/own set05:01
LazergunzIndyGunFreak: Thanks :)05:01
Artemis3Anohaakten, cannot be helped if the manufacturer doesnt cooperate, by not released specs or a driver...05:01
eckwell, the point is, that any drivers that aren't in mainline are essentially unsupported05:01
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: no sweat05:01
techieany way to make user names appear on xchat sidebar next to where I am writing?05:01
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LazergunzIndyGunFreak: Perhaps you know how I can rid of an ATI driver :P ?05:02
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yeahlolgfsdfcan anyone help me with a x-server problem in a ubuntu installation05:02
Glenchanyone know what I should blacklist under modprobe to get the usb wireless card I have to show up instead of Wired (wlan0)?05:02
cerberusHey guys, I'm having trouble compiling a webcam driver. A number of errors occure and I've put up the output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8489/ for anyone to look over. Any help would be greatly appreciated.05:02
dofftechie, well if you've installed gnome-xchat it's very old version05:02
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: can you search synaptic, say for "ATI".. and see if it shows up there?  it probably will.05:02
techieyes it is. doff what do you recommend05:02
IndyGunFreakthen just right click /mark for removal...05:02
dofftechie, download from here http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/05:02
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: whats wrong with the ATI driver?05:03
yeahlolgfsdfcould anyone help me with a x server problem in the gaim installation05:03
dofftechie, and uninstall your current version ;)05:03
yeahlolgfsdfI nmean05:03
yeahlolgfsdfubuntu05:03
yeahlolgfsdfsorry05:03
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LazergunzIndyGunFreak: Long story short, I dont use ATI i use Nvidia... :P05:03
vox754!pastebin > Anohaakten05:03
kalorinnothing wrong wtih my ATI support that I've seen05:04
techiedoff once I download this file how do I open this> or do I do it through the synaptic package?05:04
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: yah, ::waterboy:: "Ma'ma says ATI is the Devil!:::waterboy::05:04
kalorinit' a wee bit bumpy for a first time install, after that though it seems to work just fine05:04
LazergunzIndyGunFreak: >.<05:04
dofftechie, so directly you need http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/xchat_2.6.8-1ubuntu1_i386.deb just double click it and it will be ok)05:04
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IndyGunFreakLazergunz: it should be in Synaptic if you installed it properly, i would think anyways.05:05
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dofftechie, push install05:05
LazergunzIndyGunFreak: nah it's not there =/05:05
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yeahlolgfsdfcould anyone help me with a X server problem in the ubuntu installation05:05
Artemis3cerberus, make sure you do a chown -R username:group to the folder with the code, and check permissions, might as well do chmod -R u+xr * inside the folder05:05
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LazergunzIndyGunFreak: It's in the applications menu though.05:05
kalorinlazerguns, set it to look around more05:06
Artemis3cerberus, other than that, check what the source depends on...05:06
techiedoff, how do I uninstall the old one... meaning where do i do that... sort of new still in here!05:06
Ltar#debian_chatter05:06
h-bombanyways, i also run ubuntu on a server at home as my monitor server, runs solid has dapper on it, i run cacti, munin, monit, smokeping, mysql05:06
nalioth!ask | yeahlolgfsdf05:06
ubotuyeahlolgfsdf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:06
kalorinspecifically settings -> repositories -> 1st, 2nd, 3rd boxes checked05:06
kalorinthen run an update and look again05:06
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dofftechie, from where did you installed it. synaptic is ok05:06
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automatically set up a ext3 sata drive without recompiling kernels or editing fstabs05:06
techieok thanks I will try it.05:06
yeahlolgfsdf!ask05:06
techiedoff which version is the one I downloaded now... do you know?05:07
cerberusArtemis3, No difference at all. The files listed as unable to find aren'05:07
yeahlolgfsdf!ask          could some help me troubleshoot with a X server problem in the ubuntu instllation05:07
techieI will go and try it now and see what happens.05:07
techiethanks.05:07
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techiedoff thanks.05:07
doffgo)05:07
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BrendanMubuntu_no_worky, you've asked that question like 11 times now. People have given you all kinds of answers, and tried to be nice about it. Go RTFM. Seriously.05:07
swanflanyone know where I can get help with frostwire?05:07
IndyGunFreakLazergunz: sorry, i don't really have much of a suggestion05:07
cerberusArtemis3, No difference at all. The files listed as unable to find aren't in the directory and to be honest I can't find them anywhere, can't find anywhere to install them from either05:07
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Errpast1I keep getting asked for a CUPS password05:08
ubuntu_no_workyi have05:08
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iRockHello, I am having problems with my new ATi card05:08
Errpast1I ran lppasswd, and set my username and password05:08
Errpast1CUPS is still asking me for password05:08
Errpast1root password doesn't work either05:08
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IndyGunFreakoops, wrong X05:09
Errpast1How do I get past this password issue with CUPS?05:09
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doffErrpast1, try admin password05:09
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Artemis3cerberus, you sure is not depending in some kernel headers or something? you have the build-essential installed?05:10
iRockI just installed the VisionTek x1300, tried booting up edgy, but it sticks at the bootsplash. Strange, as Ubuntuworks flawlessly on my Intel i810 integrated card05:10
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Errpast1doff, hmmmm. now it takes me to this URL05:10
yeahlolgfsdfcould someone help me with a x server problem05:10
Errpast1http://localhost:631/admin/?op=start-printer&printer_name=HL2070N05:10
yeahlolgfsdfin ubuntu05:10
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kalorinirock05:10
Errpast1but doesn't draw anyting on page05:10
kalorin!ati05:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:10
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BrendanM*yawn*, I'm going to sleep. If arooni comes back, somebody tell him/her to add "SMHConfig" "On" to xorg.conf in order to qsynaptics to work.05:11
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Errpast1I'm running 6.0605:11
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Errpast1Is CUPS better in 6.1005:11
sureshothey could someone give me the syntax on how to remove a directory with subs05:11
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sureshotplease05:11
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Artemis3rm -r05:11
covertwhere should i enter glitches i have found regarding the feisty installer?05:11
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kalorinsureshot, man rm05:11
Glench_so anyone want to help with wireless problems?05:11
yeahlolgfsdfcould someone HELP ME INSTALL UBUNTU05:11
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sureshotArtmis3 thanks alot man05:11
kalorinyeahlolgfsdf, www.microsoft.com05:12
Artemis3np05:12
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doffErrpast1, sorry I'm rather new to linux even don't know what is CUPS;) but I don't think it's better in edgy (6.10)05:12
kevcastHow can I delete an account in Thunderbird when there's no account settings under Tools?05:12
Toma-anyone know when ubuntu gaming arena will be back up?05:12
cerberusArtemis3, the hearder files are installed but I can't find the mentiond files anywhere05:12
maartenyeahlolgfsdf: Burn the ISO on a CD or DVD, then boot from it. Follow instructions on the screen :)05:12
sureshotkalorin was not sure that was the command and i am in such a bind at the moment thanks again05:12
tonyyarussoCan anyone recommend a slideshow/presentation tool that's lighter weight than OpenOffice.org's Impress?05:12
Charlyrm -r <path>05:12
Tremblordoes anyone have a minimum requirements? I want to put ubuntu on an oldish laptop05:12
Artemis3cups is the common unix printing system, something to make it easy to use printers :P05:12
BrendanMErrpast1, CUPS is a web-based printer configuration. Everyone hates it (apparently)05:12
yeahlolgfsdfyes05:13
yeahlolgfsdfI know05:13
yeahlolgfsdfbut05:13
kalorinsure05:13
yeahlolgfsdfI have a problem05:13
yeahlolgfsdfwith x server05:13
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maartenwhats that?05:13
yeahlolgfsdfduring the installation05:13
Artemis3well both gnome and kde are using cups clients to it when you use the nice add printer thingie05:13
covertdoes anyone know where i can report feisty errors?05:13
yeahlolgfsdfMaarten could you please reply back?05:13
kalorinyeahlolgfsdf, seriously05:13
kalorin!ati05:13
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
kalorinREAD05:13
Toma-!launchpad | convert05:13
ubotuconvert: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/05:13
kalorinit's that simple05:13
BrendanMTremblor, you might try Xubuntu. It runs really well on older hardware.05:13
tonyyarussoTremblor: 3 GB HD, 192 MB RAM, ~500 MHz Proc would be my guess for default.  You can go lower too.05:13
Errpast1BrendanM, I'm just trying to get a brother 2070 laser printer installed05:13
maartenwhat is the problem? (I am a linux novice, but who knows)05:13
IndyGunFreak!xfce05:13
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels05:13
Errpast12 hours and no luck05:13
Errpast1took me 5 minutes with Vista05:14
__mikemHow do I ad a folder to the bash shell search path?05:14
IndyGunFreakXubuntu is awesome05:14
h-bomblol05:14
Artemis3xubuntu is good when ram is low ;)05:14
Errpast1I hate to gripe, but that's the facts05:14
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yeahlolgfsdfwell how I do troubleshoot with a x server problem05:14
maartenI installed Xunbuntu on a P2, 350 Mhz with 256 Mb - it ran fairly well. (That PC was dumped though a month back)05:14
IndyGunFreakArtemis3: actually, Xubuntu is pretty good even if you have a robust system... its about as bare minimum as Ubuntu can be05:14
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kalorinbash search path, edit the /etc/environment file05:14
Tremblorram isn't my big problem, i don't need speed per say, i want to turn my old laptop into a little linux machine05:14
Artemis3(or when you rather use your ram for something else)05:14
BrendanMI'm running Xubuntu on PIII w/128 M of RAM and it flies05:14
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__mikemthanks kalorin05:14
kalorinsure05:14
Errpast1IndyGunFreak, two hours later, and I can't get Brother printer to work05:15
kalorinI've got xbuntu on an athlon 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram05:15
Tremblorthanks maarten, my lappy is a bit faster than that, but not much05:15
maartenyeahlolgfsdf: what graphics card do you have?05:15
Errpast1Took me 5 minutes with Vista05:15
kalorineven with a 384meg vmware image of windows XP running it doesn't even hit swap05:15
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: sorry man, i know squat about printer support/linux...05:15
Errpast1hmm, I think I'll visit www.hardashell.com, as you suggested :)05:15
kalorinwith mail/web/remote desktop/vmware and so on going05:15
Artemis3its ok i have used xfce and xubuntu even on old imacs05:15
badfingeryeahlolgfsdf - in an xterm type 'sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'05:15
kalorineven runing yahoo messenger05:15
Errpast1IndyGunFreak, that's ok, you're funny05:15
Errpast1:)05:15
jaredi got a lexmark printer working on Ubuntu05:15
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: but the question is, who do you blame for that?.. Linux creators/writers/programme3rs, etc.. or the Printer manufacturer, for not having Linux drivers?05:15
Toma-Errpast1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68403&page=205:15
jaredit took real long05:15
badfingeryeahlolgfsdf - correction. sudo05:15
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: i try man, i try..05:15
jaredand was annoying05:16
jaredbut I got it working!05:16
Tremblorthe only thing i was worried about was that i have gps mapping stuff for windows on my lap that i use when going on trips, but a quick search found me some nice linux alternatives05:16
IndyGunFreakthis room needs a little levity sometimes05:16
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Errpast1Toma-, I'll give a try.  I think I tried it already though.  thanks05:16
kalorinErrpast1, I'd love to help with it, but I simply don't print much of anything and haven't bothered to set up printing05:16
yeahlolgfsdfI'll give it a  go05:16
yeahlolgfsdfI use a ATI graphics card05:16
kalorinI'd suggest googling around for a while05:16
kalorinyeahlolgfsdf,05:16
kalorin!ati05:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:16
kalorintells you exactly what to do05:16
badfingeryeahlolgfsdf - so do i.05:16
cerberusdoes anyone know where to find the v4l headers? google is so far turning up a blank05:16
__mikemkalorin how do I get the changes to take affect?05:16
kalorinand you have to do it twice, once for the install and then once after you boot05:17
kalorinmikem, leave X and come back in05:17
__mikemokay05:17
__mikembrb05:17
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: when you get to around 16-17hrs into configuring, then you can complain, you've barely scratched the surface at 2hrs!.. :)  I was about ready to put my head through one of my monitors earlier, ala Nightmare on Elm Street05:17
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maartenI have a ATI, worked with no problem. There is a text-install option though from the boot menu I believe if X don't work05:17
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yeahlolgfsdfI see05:17
Errpast1IndyGunFreak, good point.  :)05:17
Artemis3well i didnt do anything with a radeon 9600 it simply worked with the open drivers05:17
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: what kind of printer?05:17
yeahlolgfsdfcould someone give me a guide on the net ,for just a general introduction to ubuntu and linux05:17
DWRZHey...is this the right place to ask questions for OpenOffice support? Sorry, first time using IRC05:17
Toma-Errpast1: oh ok. you will want gutenprint installed. the HL-2070N is fully supported by cups and gutenprint. should be a click-tastic install tbh.05:18
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Errpast1Toma-, yes.  that is a clear link.  I followed it about an hour ago.  still no luck05:18
jaredI guess you could ask about open office if you wanted05:18
Errpast1Toma-, cool.  do I apt-get install gutetnprint05:18
Toma-Errpast1: ok, well whats the issue? is it getting seen?05:18
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yeahlolgfsdfjust like general guide for a general users functionality05:18
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Charlyyeahlolgfsdf, try http://ubuntuguide.org05:18
DWRZI'm just wondering two things...first, how to center the page (not the text, the page), second is how to add page numbers05:18
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maartenyeahlolgfsdf: www.ubuntuguide.org05:18
IndyGunFreakErrpast1: probably won't hurt..lol05:18
maartenyeah that one :P05:18
__mikemkalorin, thanks05:18
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kalorinor wikipedia05:19
Errpast1Toma-, yes, I see it.  But can't print a test page.05:19
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kalorinmike, no sweat, was doing exactly that 4 hours ago05:19
yeahlolgfsdfthanks05:19
techiedoff u there?05:19
Toma-Errpast1: any errors or just garbage getting printed?05:19
kalorinit's maddening, most other systems actually read the .bash_profile05:19
jaredgive me a sec DWRZ and I'll see if I can find out05:19
iRockkalorin: Okay, time to see if this will work. :)05:19
doffdrivers (ati, nvidia), codecs (mp3, all windows, dvd etc.), ms fonts and other cookies go easy with this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:19
__mikemnow I have a place to put my own commands05:19
kaloringood luck irock05:19
Errpast1Toma-, nothing.05:19
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Errpast1I ran05:19
dofftechie, yes. how's your new xchat version?05:19
DWRZthanks!! :)05:19
kalorinmike, I always add . and ~/bin05:19
TopDogAPB1alright guys, thanks for all the help earlier, my latest problem involves limewire, I've got all the way to where it is installed, and I'm trying to gedit a file, but I don't have permission to edit the file, and when I go to change permissions to edit, its says I'm not the owner, and I am. How do I fix this?05:20
yeahlolgfsdfdo you guys type ou/C/P t the IRC screenames or is there a command05:20
jaredcentering the page is very easy actually05:20
Errpast1sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/cupsys /etc/init.d/cups05:20
Errpast1sudo dpkg -i brhl2070nlpr_1.1.2-3_i386.deb05:20
Errpast1sudo dpkg -i cupswrapperhl2070n_1.0.0-1_i386.deb05:20
yeahlolgfsdfout*05:20
techiedoff I had to do it through the synaptic because downloadiing directly it did not work for me.05:20
Errpast1that's what I ran.05:20
jaredare you in the Open Office Writer (thing thats like word)05:20
jared?05:20
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DWRZI've googled but no luck to be honest05:20
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DWRZyep05:20
techiethe new version though 2.66 is terrific05:20
Toma-yeahlolgfsdf: in xchat, type the first couple letters then hit TAB05:20
Errpast1Toma-, from the link you showed me.05:20
jaredok do you see the 3 A's?05:20
kalorinok brains05:20
DWRZyes05:20
jaredbold underlined and italic?05:20
techiedoff, it is terrific thanks.05:20
jaredok becide that there are a bunch of square with lines in them05:20
sureshoti am compileing a libcap library.. it says that lex is insufficiant .. i dl flex and installed but to no avail any thoughts05:20
Toma-Errpast1: try not to past. you dont NEED those installed tbh. it should be installed already05:20
DWRZyep05:20
jaredthe one on the far left is to the left05:20
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kalorinanyone know of a good program for doing canon raw -> adobe digital negative format conversions under linux?05:20
jaredthe one beside it is centered05:20
DWRZyep, but that's for the text...05:21
techiedoff in this new version, how do you make the people's names appear on the side05:21
kalorinwell there's a windows program, I guess I could TRY to wine it05:21
jaredwait05:21
DWRZi want to center the page05:21
DWRZok05:21
enixcan anyone here help me w/ using gimp?05:21
maartenHey, is it better to install the ATI drivers from ATI, or are the ones that came with Ubuntu good enough for a 9700 Pro?05:21
jaredoh!05:21
Toma-kalorin: convert might do it05:21
jaredlol05:21
techiedoff. how do you set it?05:21
yeahlolgfsdfhow do I use cywgin ,could someone give me a guide?05:21
DWRZ:)05:21
eckkalorin: if there is a program that could do it, it would be imagemagick05:21
kalorink05:21
jareduh... what exactly do you mean by "center the page"?05:21
Errpast1Toma-, sorry about paste05:21
Toma-yeahlolgfsdf: cygwin isnt ubuntu. try the cygwin channel05:21
dofftechie, isn't it not on the side yet? I had it on the side just when I installed the new version05:21
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DWRZsorry to use this comparison, but in MS word the page (where the text is on) is diplayed in the center of the screen05:21
Errpast1Toma-, is gutenprint something I need to install. I will go Google it.;\05:21
DWRZright now, the page is displayed to the left of the screen05:22
techiedoff, not yet05:22
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doffbut I didn't see this version in synaptic05:22
Toma-Errpast1: ive removed printing from this system so i cant test it, but i think its System > Admin > Printing... then Add Printer?05:22
techieit must be set05:22
yeahlolgfsdfwhat's the cygwin channel?05:22
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Artemis3try your games and see, the less you use the closed binaries, the better imo, Some cards have no choice.05:22
jaredoh ok..05:22
DWRZdoes that make sense?05:22
Toma-Errpast1: its in synaptic. easy install.05:22
jaredyeah05:22
Toma-yeahlolgfsdf: im guessing #cygwin05:22
sureshoti am compileing a libcap library.. it says that lex is insufficiant .. what does this mean05:22
jaredyou could always minimize the window so that the page is in the center than move that to the center of your screen :P05:22
techiedoff but this is so good that I am impressed and I will figure it out05:22
yeahlolgfsdfyeah..05:22
yeahlolgfsdfmakes sense05:22
techieeventually05:22
DWRZhaha05:22
TopDogAPB1alright guys, thanks for all the help earlier, my latest problem involves limewire, I've got all the way to where it is installed, and I'm trying to gedit a file, but I don't have permission to edit the file, and when I go to change permissions to edit, its says I'm not the owner, and I am. How do I fix this?05:22
dofftechie, ok one minute I'll look through config file05:22
DWRZi guess, but i'm looking for a long term fix if it exists05:22
enixall i want to do is draw a rectangle, more like a frame, but i see no box tool05:23
Errpast1Toma-, I went the System>admin route two hours ago.  It hangs on "trying to find drivfers"05:23
Errpast1I will synaptic gutenprint right now05:23
CharlyDWRZ, try View>Print Layout05:23
techiedoff. thanks.05:23
richiei need help with ubuntu 6.10 basiclly having issues with keyboard(all previous versions of ubuntu have been ok) but basically keybaord not workng for live install. i have tried setting the keybaord in preferences but no luck. after a bit of investigation i found that if i make sure the num lock is turned off when live cd is booting that my keybaord will work. has anyone had similar problems. or know a good fix?05:23
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Toma-Errpast1: ok. it may already be installed tho05:23
abcdefcan someone help me, how do i install stuff? when i do apt-get install package it says not found05:23
jaredif you don't mind me asking DWRZ, why exactly do you need the page to be in the center of the screen?05:23
abcdefhow do i add package to source.luist?05:23
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Artemis3DWRZ, try this monster wiki, specially the FAQ for each openoffice component: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoHelpOutline05:24
DWRZyeah, print layout doesn't fix it, it makes it span the entire screen05:24
dofftechie, see private dialog I'll help u there.05:24
techieok05:24
DWRZok thanks artemis05:24
DWRZjared, just for ergonomics purposes i guess05:24
Zilulili can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine05:24
tj239abcdef, what you add to the source.list is called a repository05:25
jaredok.05:25
Kresjah_laptopHey! I'm trying to use wxPython in my python app here, but I get "ImportError: No module named wx". I would have presumed that it meant wx wasn't installed, but a lot of wx packages are already selected in synaptic, including what seems like the logical dependencies to get "import wx" working. Anyone that can enlighten me on what packages I might be missing, or any extra steps that must be taken? Using Edgy Eft and Python 2.505:25
Errpast1Toma-, looks like it's installed already05:25
jaredI'm sorry i didn't help much... but I tried I gotta go now05:25
Toma-Errpast1: printers are terrible things :) i spent 1/2 a day trying to get proprietry drivers to work from Canon for my RX520. I ended up using the free drivers and it worked like a treat05:25
Toma-Errpast1: ok, lets find out why its stopping on loading those drivers05:25
abcdeftj239, how do i add universal packages to sourcelist?05:25
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know a way to automount discs and mountpoints automatically?05:25
tj239abcdef, how you add to the source.list is with a command in the terminal................. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:25
Errpast1Toma-, hmmm.  I bought this 2070 cause it seemed so well supported in linux community05:25
Zilulili can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine05:25
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IndyGunFreakeveryone I think i'm gonna bow out to, its late.  Errpast1 if after 17hrs you don't get your printer working, i'll give you the decoder ring.05:25
Errpast1Toma-, sure, thanks05:26
yharrowubuntu_no_worky,  what version of ubuntu are you using/05:26
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Toma-Errpast1: it is! how badly does the system lock when trying to load the drivers? because theres ALOT of drivers...05:26
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Artemis3tj239, you can always gksudo gedit ;)05:26
iRock:(05:26
iRockDidn't work. :(05:26
CharlyDWRZ, try Format>Page to access Page properties05:26
tj239Artemis3, don't leave off vim or vi05:26
iRockI tried Dapper, but I got a kernel panic on it.05:26
tj239:P05:26
maartenHey guys, whats a good IRC network these days with some tech channels, including windows, games, etc whatnot?05:26
HiDensityhow do I change into a directory with a space in terminal...ex: Program Files05:27
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abcdeftj239, hiow do i add universe packages to source list?05:27
Artemis3well its for prettier user experience05:27
Zilulili can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine how do i go about finding it?05:27
abcdefi know how to use nano, but what to add in there05:27
kalorinirock?05:27
tj239abcdef, remove the # from the line that says universe on it05:27
Toma-HiDensity: you can either use 'Program Files' or Program\ Files05:27
techiedoff thanks for the help but none of it makes sense to me at this point.05:27
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maartenHiDensity: place the folder in quotes: "Program Files"05:27
Artemis3maarten, freenode?05:27
DWRZroger charly05:27
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iRockkalorin: I don't believe this may be a driver problem05:28
maartenArtemis3: Thanks, i'll try that05:28
HiDensitymaarten: you rock thanks05:28
Toma-HiDensity: better yet, type Prog then hit tab05:28
Errpast1Toma-, will I see drivers via lsmod (like I do with wireless drivers?)05:28
abcdefi feel stupid lolz, thanks man05:28
Artemis3maarten, you are already trying it05:28
dofftechie, k )05:28
iRockkalorin: I've tried every distro I have, they all panic. :(05:28
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Q_ContinuumHow difficult would it be to "slipstream" in the current patches for a Ubuntu install CD?  (If not, there should be an easy way to - this fresh install has 227MB of updates out of the box! Dialup users would die at that!)05:28
maartenLOL05:28
Toma-Errpast1: i dont think so. youll see it in the cups admin page tho05:28
Zilulili can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine how do i go about finding it?05:28
kalorinwait, you're getting kernel panic's?05:28
maartenI did not realize that :D05:28
Errpast1Toma-, yes, I see the printer in the CUPS admin page.05:28
Artemis3ubuntu servers are linked to freenode....05:28
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maartenI see :)05:29
iRockkalorin: Yes. It only happens when I have my ATi card in my PCI slot.05:29
kaloriniRock, a kernel panic is usually a harddware issue, are you overclocking it at all?05:29
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Toma-Errpast1: super. so it IS loading the driver already?05:29
yeahlolgfsdfwhat's ChanServ?05:29
Errpast1Toma-, but CUPS keeps asking for a password.  My root password doesn't work05:29
Toma-ahh.05:29
ubuntu_no_workyim running edgy eft05:29
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Errpast1Toma-, And I ran the lppasswd and created a user, that didn't work05:29
DWRZyeah, nothing on Format->page05:29
tj239abcdef,  that line should already be there so it doesn't need to be typed............... if it's not there; you need to go to  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/05:29
iRockkalorin: No, It hasn't been overclocked.05:29
Zilulilanybody know how i can find my wine folder? it didn't install where it normally does05:29
Errpast1Toma-, I killed CUPS and restarted it, in case it needed to re read password files.  No luck05:29
kaloriniRock, oh, did you tell the bios to initialize the PCIe card first? or at least the one that X is expecting to see?05:29
Toma-Errpast1: ok05:30
Errpast1Toma-, I know my root password is correct.  I even changed that via passwd, to be sure05:30
kalorinthat would likely give you all kinds of hurt if you have a card and it's expecting to see a completely different card and tries to load the other drivers05:30
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iRockkalorin: I don't have any PCIe or AGP slots. My card is a standard PCI card.05:30
icebisa kenalan ngak?05:30
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kalorinah05:30
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kalorinman, sorry05:30
mbaci think someone broke the internet05:30
kalorinno idea then05:30
Exershiohey05:30
mbaci'm having trouble connecting to several nodes05:30
Artemis3hahaha nah that some language05:30
kalorinin the bios is it set to initalize the AGP/PCIe slot first though?05:30
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kalorinmaybe it's just getting lost?05:31
Toma-Errpast1: brb. checking other PC with cups on it05:31
icehai pa kabar boleh kenalan ngak?05:31
iRockkalorin: It's set to PCI first.05:31
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Artemis3malay or something, i dunno05:31
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Exershiocan somebody here help me? I want to set my resolution at 1152x864 but it doesn't appear on the list. it goes from 1024x768 to 1280x1024, and I don't know how to set it. I used 1152x864 on Windows XP before I installed Ubuntu05:31
iRockkalorin: Windows works perfectly, flawlessly with this card. Linux on the other hand... :'(05:31
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tonyyarusso!id | ice05:32
ubotuice: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia05:32
NoelCowerHowdy-ho.05:32
kalorinirock, that's odd, you sure you have the right driver installed?05:32
iRockkalorin: Yes.05:32
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iRockkalorin: fglrx, fresh from the repos05:32
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automount drives on edgy05:32
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tj239:)05:33
mbacExershio, less /var/log/Xorg.log.005:33
Artemis3oi, nano is 2 colors only!05:33
mbacer, Xorg.0.log05:33
Errpast1Toma-, thx.  I'm poking around Google05:33
yeahlolgfsdfcould someone give me a guide to IRC05:33
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mbacsee if the resolution is probed05:33
yeahlolgfsdfI know nothing about it05:33
threadwhy am I having like zero luck trying to get this 20" lcd run at its native 1680x1050? this is the nvidia driver, and I've got the sync ranges specified correctly and tried all sorts of combinations of the edid ignoring directives.05:33
tj239hey, my gedit is black and white05:34
threadI just get "No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing.05:34
Artemis3and its black, everyone knows users are scared of black05:34
Toma-Errpast1: its ment to be your 1st user username + pass in the cups admin page05:34
tonyyarussoArtemis3: Doesn't need to be - nano has the capability for multi-colored syntax hilighting.   Check your nanorc05:34
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iRockWell, One of the main reasons I got this card was to boost performance of Beryl on my comp. :)05:34
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Artemis3if it was for me...05:34
threadI can't find anything helpful on the forum or FixVideoResolutionHowto wiki page05:34
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kalorinah05:34
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kalorinwell, are you satisified?05:35
kalorin:)05:35
guest41234243hey05:35
guest41234243i have a question05:35
TheVaultWhats the command to update firefox? I am using 6.06 of Ubuntu and I just installed all the updates and still no updated version of Firefox05:35
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cameronheathcan someone help me with Virtualization?05:35
guest41234243someone is using my wifi ... what can i do to them05:35
guest41234243i tried nbtstat -a05:35
kalorinoh man05:35
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guest41234243but it didnt work05:35
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kalorinpicassa from google is avialable now for linux05:35
kalorinthis might be useful :)05:35
Artemis3thread, if it were me, i would simply hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions at the end of the file, of course you need to do sudo, etc.05:35
guest41234243anyone05:35
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automount drives on edgy05:35
techie_i am using both programs somehow05:35
NoelCowerkalorin: Interesting.05:35
TheVaultcameronheath: You don't want virtualization, trust me, super slow if you don't have a fast computer05:35
threadArtemis3: oh yeah, I've done that05:35
mbacTheVault, apt-get install firefox says the latest version is installed?05:35
techie_should I be erasing one05:35
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Errpast1Toma-, 1st user?  not sure what you mean05:35
dr-tofuhello all, how can i add paths to my PATH variable automatically at startup?05:35
kalorinyeah I just pulled and installed dcraw05:35
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kalorinit's command line05:36
kalorinnot sure it'll do what I want, but maybe05:36
TheVaultlemme try that mbac05:36
techie_the new xchat and the gnome one xchat05:36
Toma-Errpast1: as in, the main user. the 1st user you created on the system05:36
Errpast1Toma-, I've tried root and root's pw05:36
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Artemis3gnome xchat is nasty i don't like it05:36
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threadArtemis3: to all the sections by depth... the log file just says "No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing."05:36
techie_does one program requires the other or not05:36
Charlyguest41234243, secure your wifi with wep or wpa05:36
iceboleh kenalan ngak?05:36
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cameronheaththevault: i already kinda have it i need a hand installing vmtools05:36
Errpast1Toma-, oh.  let me try that05:36
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brandon_can someone help me to get my sound working in Ubuntu?05:36
mbacArtemis, yeah, the worst part about it is it pushes you here by default ;)05:36
Artemis3thread, then your screen (monitor?) refresh rates are off05:36
mbaci just installed it a second ago05:36
nanothiefhow can i get a specific character (eg the 102nd char) of a file in bash?05:36
threadArtemis3: lcd, and no .. they're not.05:37
DWRZAnybody know how to automatically add page numbers to the lower right side of the page on OOo?05:37
iRockkalorin: Picasa for Linux is actually the Windows version running through Wine. :P05:37
brandon_I will pay $10 to anyone who can get my sound to work in Ubuntu :(05:37
mbacnanothief, cut05:37
kalorinreally?05:37
Artemis3wow05:37
kalorinthat's too bad05:37
crimsunbrandon_: have you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?05:37
brandon_really05:37
kalorinit's a ubuntu package that I'm downloading right now05:37
brandon_yeah05:37
Artemis3if its not the adthingie that doesnt work in lionux05:37
crimsunbrandon_: so, where did you paste the info requested?05:37
threadyeah, I've worked through these resolution issues in the past, but I'm a bit baffled by this05:37
cameronheathTheVault: i already have vm fusion and ubuntu installed, i am just ahving trouble installing vmtools05:37
brandon_I have done quite a few things, that is why I need someone who knows quite a bit to help05:37
nanothiefmbac: thanks05:37
icekm nak mana?05:37
TheVaultmbac: Well it says its up to date but i checked the version of firefox and its 1.5.0.1005:38
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mbacTheVault, try apt-get update first05:38
Artemis3what card it is?05:38
TheVaultcameronheath: Oh, well i am no expert on that, but all I know its slow stuff05:38
yeahlolgfsdfmy sound doesn't work with firefox on ubuntu05:38
Q_Continuumeck: Installed!  Now doing the 1/4 GB updates :-/05:38
yeahlolgfsdfcould someone help05:38
yeahlolgfsdfits the flash sound05:38
Errpast1Toma-, no luck05:38
TheVaultmbac: alright 1 sec05:38
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brandon_crimsun: I didn't actually see that page, I used the guide to troubleshooting sound problems05:38
cameronheathCan anyone help with Virtualization using VMware05:39
brandon_let me check out that page real quick05:39
Errpast1Toma-, thank you for your persistence and patience.05:39
Toma-Errpast1: didnt log you in? in http://localhost:631 ?05:39
threadArtemis3: geforce fx550005:39
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automount drives on edgy05:39
Errpast1Toma- that's corrrect05:39
TheVaultmbac:Reading package lists... Done05:39
TheVaultBuilding dependency tree... Done05:39
TheVault0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:39
kalorinwow, it's wine05:39
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TheVaultshit guys, sorry05:39
NoelCowerAre there any particular issues with gparted or hardware that would cause it to pretty much hang when loading (in and outside of ubiquity)?05:39
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Artemis3thats nvidia realm...05:39
vox754ubuntu_no_worky, hey! why did you do that?05:39
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Errpast1When I go to that url, I am not asked to auth.  BUT when I choose a CUPS action like add printer, it provides an auth box05:39
ubuntu_no_worky?05:39
Errpast1that's where I cannot get a successful auth.  with  main user.  root user.  ANY user05:39
Toma-Errpast1: is your user in the admin and lpadmin groups? (run 'groups')05:39
ubuntu_no_workyI thought u told me to leave?05:39
CharlyDWRZ, activate footer from Format>Page and then Insert>Field>Page number with right allignment in the footer05:40
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vox754ubuntu_no_worky, you are so NOT reading...05:40
Errpast1Toma-, no.05:40
TheVaultmbac: still nothing05:40
Errpast1Toma-, I will cat /etc/groups05:40
TheVaultmbac: what else should I try?05:40
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drage_av_lysanyone ever have a problem getting files off an ipod back onto the hard drive in ubuntu? :o05:40
Toma-Errpast1: try adding your user to those groups and try again, with that same username05:40
Artemis3NoelCower, i think its possible, its not exactly rock solid, i would simply leave empty (non partitioned) space and tell ubiquity to use that to avoid using gparted inside ubiquity too much05:40
rmathewsalsamixer identifies my card as SiS S7018, but sound isn't working.  any idea how I can fix this?  I'm on XUbuntu Edgy.05:40
dr-tofuhow can i add a path to my $PATH variable on startup? i tried PATH=$PATH:/dir in my rc.local, no beans..05:41
mbacTheVault, er, what do you expect the latest version to be?05:41
crimsunrmathews: paste the info requested from wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems, and tell us the URL05:41
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TheVault2.0.205:41
NoelCowerArtemis: I was considering that as an alternative, seems like my best option at the moment too05:41
NoelCowerThanks05:41
brandon_OK, I'm back05:41
Errpast1lpadmin:x:106:errpast05:41
Toma-dr-tofu: add it to /etc/environments05:41
brandon_I checked out that debugging sound problems page, and the commands don't work because my card is not found05:41
vox754ubuntu_no_worky, well, I'm gone too. Sorry, that I could help you further.05:41
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Artemis3NoelCower, you could use any resizing with the newest gparted live cd05:41
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TheVaultmbac: the latest firefox is 2.0.2 or something like that and i have 1.505:41
Errpast1Toma-, I think that means I 'm in the group, yes?05:41
nwonknu-Hi05:41
mbacdpkg --status firefox for me says it conflicts with 2.005:41
DWRZthanks charly05:42
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brandon_I really will pay someone via paypal if we can get my sound working though05:42
dr-tofuToma-: thanks05:42
Toma-Errpast1: id say so05:42
mbacer, says 2.0 conflicts with 1.505:42
ubuntu_no_workyits k05:42
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Errpast1hmmm05:42
ubuntu_no_workythanks anywho05:42
HiDensityhas anyone gotten slingplayer to work...im having problems05:42
crimsunbrandon_: well, to help you, I need the info that I requested.05:42
drage_av_lysno one? lol.05:42
TheVaultmbac: so there no way to update all the way?05:42
Artemis3ok whats your sound card again?05:42
nwonknu-no05:42
Errpast1Toma-, thanks very much for your efforts.  I'll consider the last 2 and a half hours a learning experience, and hoepfully will get printing working tommorrow05:42
iRockI was googling, and I found a similar case: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/284505:42
gravemindhey I have a question about wireless: this computer periodically disconnects from the wireless point, and then reconnects in ~20s. the other non-linux computers (even the ones in the same room) have no problem staying connected at all times. I have an atheros wireless chipset. Is this a common problem?05:42
brandon_crimsun:  The commands on the debugging page return an error for me05:42
Errpast1all the best05:42
mbacTheVault, no, it should, i just think firefox v1.5 and firefox v2.0 are considered different packages05:42
Toma-Errpast1: no probs05:42
brandon_should I report them anyways?05:43
L234How to update xfce 4.4 ?05:43
crimsunbrandon_: yes.05:43
mbacso upgrading firefox1 just brings you to the latest version of the firefox1 series05:43
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TheVaultoh05:43
yeahlolgfsdfA sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.05:43
NoelCowerArtemis: Actually, bit of an oddity.. I've left it going for an hour and it just loaded the instant I popped into a terminal to kill it05:43
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iRock*similar, if not exact05:43
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yeahlolgfsdfA sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.05:43
TheVaultwell then I'll have to unistall 1.5 and install 2.0 manually?05:43
NoelCowerIt's become self-aware.05:43
brandon_ok, let me put together a quick report05:43
crimsunyeahlolgfsdf: kill it, please.05:43
Artemis3yeahlolgfsdf, or get the freak close to the acces point?05:43
NoelCowerOh well, no harm done here O-o05:43
kalorinbah05:43
mbacthevault, i'm not sure, i'm kind of expecting apt-get install firefox2 to work05:44
kalorinpicassa does in fact support raw files, but doesn't do adobe digital negatives05:44
kalorin:(05:44
techieCan anybody comment on this: After having erase program via add/remove the program still shows on the list of internet programs (the old xchat gnome) how do I remove it?05:44
TheVaultlemme try that05:44
mbacit'll probably say not found05:44
kalorinof all the OS's in the world that I woudl _THINK_ would do an open standard like adobe over various manufacturers raw formats, it'd be linux05:44
kalorinamazing05:44
vox754yeahlolgfsdf, what book? Hayt? Cheng?05:44
TheVaultmbac: yeah your right, says not found05:44
techieThis reminds me in windows xp of programs still on the start menu even though they are no longer there.05:44
mbaci'm stumped05:44
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TheVaultmbac: Same here05:44
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gravemindtechie: try opening synaptic (system>administration>synaptic) and "completely remove" said programs05:45
TheVaultmbac: I'll go searching around and see what I can find05:45
mbacmaybe it's considered too bleeding edge for edgy eft or something05:45
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mbacand only when you enable "multiverse" crap in /etc/apt/sources.list do you get to upgrade to it05:45
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TheVaultI think I got multiverse05:45
crimsunhuh?05:46
crimsun!firefox05:46
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins05:46
TheVaultI went and installed all the respitories05:46
crimsun!info firefox05:46
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 9009 kB, installed size 28608 kB05:46
techiegravewind, I did remove the xchat gnome but then when I go to internet it is still listed in there but it will not work of course because it is deleted.05:46
gravemindmbac: you can add multiverse in synaptic without manually editing the sources.lst05:46
yeahlolgfsdfA sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.05:46
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yeahlolgfsdf(3/3/2007 8:44:41 PM) vox754: yeahlolgfsdf, what book? Hayt? Cheng?05:46
crimsun!info firefox edgy-security05:46
yeahlolgfsdfwhat?05:46
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yeahlolgfsdfwhat book05:46
yeahlolgfsdfdid I get the problem from?05:46
mbacgravemind, you kids with your newfangled graphical configuratronic gizmos05:46
BIGEEHellow05:46
BIGEEhello05:46
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yeahlolgfsdfyeah seriously@05:46
yeahlolgfsdfjsj@05:46
crimsunyeahlolgfsdf: that's completely off-topic for this channel. Use #ubuntu-offtopic if you need to.05:46
eshaaseis there such a thing as a network installer for ubuntu?05:46
gravemindtechie: there are two options in synaptic, remove and completely remove. Try doing completely remove this time05:46
manhai boleh kenaln and minta nohpnya ngak?05:46
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aroonihey folks05:47
eckeshaase: yes, is is on the mirrors05:47
techiegravewind. ok I will try that.05:47
eshaaseeck: damnit, ok, thanks05:47
ecklemme find a link05:47
TheVaultalright, im stumped, gonna go find information somewhere05:47
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TheVaultwould having 6.06 have anything to do with this problem?05:47
eshaaseeck: this is for the alternate installeR?05:47
gravemindmbac: yeah, but sometimes I get tired of all this slow gui stuff and crack open the virtual terminal05:47
arooniis there a sexy UI enhancement i can easily (from sudo apt-get install) to edgy?05:47
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Artemis3or the server, which is smaller05:47
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crimsunarooni: see #ubuntu-effects05:47
Toma-arooni: you can install e17. thats pretty sexy, but itll replace gnome05:47
BIGEEdoes ubuntu deserve to be number 1 on distrowatch.com? Discuss05:47
mbacgravemind, i'm actually surprised to find GUI tools for all this stuff05:48
ExershioSorry bout before, I went afk for a few mins, but can somebody help me get 1152x864 as my resolution? It doesn't appear on the list05:48
vox754yeahlolgfsdf, nevermind, the answer is obviously "(V-Vi)/r" or something like that converted to cylindrical.05:48
Toma-BIGEE: #ubuntu-offtopic05:48
Artemis3BIGEE, here or in offtopic?05:48
arooniToma-: what does that mean05:48
eckeshaase: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/05:48
mbacit never even occurs to me to look, because i've been using shell everything for the last, oh, 12 years : /05:48
brandon_Crimsun:  Do you want me to just post the results in forums and give you the link?05:48
arooniToma-: do i need ghome (this is my first day in ubuntu)05:48
tonyyarussoToma-: You can have both Gnome and E17 installed (I do)05:48
NoelCowerThank you for the help, Artemis.  Chances are I'll be back once my ATI drivers have pissed me off. xD05:48
Toma-arooni: ahh. dont get e17 yet :D05:48
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Artemis3ok...05:48
arooniwell i just want something that installs easily05:48
crimsunbrandon_: I generally don't browse to forum urls. pastebin.ca will suffice.05:48
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Toma-tonyyarusso: but you cant run them at the same time ;)05:48
aroonithat makes stuff sexier.... maybe like os x05:48
gravemindmbac: gui is great for new users: like when I switched from mac, synaptic was the coolest thing ever cause it was a huge list of stuff I could get05:49
aroonilike that cool thing that separates windows05:49
arooniexpose or something05:49
tonyyarussoToma-: Actually....you can do that too :)05:49
ubuntu_no_workyanyone here know how to automount drives on edgy05:49
arooniplus something better for when i alt-tab05:49
crimsunToma-: :1, :2, etc.05:49
Toma-tonyyarusso: yeh, but not on your first day of using ubuntu05:49
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arooniwell not quite my first day...05:49
mbacgravemind, yeah, ithis ubuntu thing's got a ot of polish05:49
TheVaultmbac: Guess I gotta get automatix05:49
aroonibut first day giving up windows05:49
arooniforever05:49
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mbacthevault, what's that?05:50
gravemindarooni: try beryl or compiz, but they can be hard to install.05:50
aroonioh noes05:50
eshaaseeck: how will the packages from a 6.10 differ from the ones collected from the net install?05:50
Toma-crimsun: i know :) ive run window managers on a nokia 770 with xnest and various other fun tools05:50
tonyyarussoToma-: Applications > System > New Login isn't so bad.  Compiling E17, on the other hand, uh no.05:50
gravemindTheVault: what are you trying to install? chances are you can do it better without automatix05:50
Artemis3i use it sometimes for games, or things that doesn't matter if the machine locks up05:50
eshaaseeck: *from a 6.10 cd05:50
Toma-gravemind: actually beryl is a pe