[12:01] <ompaul> LiENUS, depends if you xforward the web browser
[12:01] <zYe> kelsin: did i insult you or something?
[12:01] <ziadoz> Flannel, would the ubuntu install allow me to put stage 1 and 2 on the ubuntu partition so i can use the nt loader?
[12:01] <LiENUS> ompaul, what the hell are you talking about?
[12:01] <eck> cinex: well, first of all, if you have a router you do not need to use iptables
[12:01] <erUSUL> omglazers: just use the two comands i gave you and then try the compilation again
[12:01] <kelsin> LiENUS: you have to look into the drivers for your wireless card to see if it supports host mode, or connect via an adhoc connection, once you get that connected you need to use firestarter or your own IP rules to set up the proper forwarding for sharing the internet
[12:01] <LiENUS> ompaul, her computer is not on a network
[12:02] <cinex> evenif I flush the list it still wont work; eck
[12:02] <LiENUS> how am i going to use xforward?
[12:02] <jin_> how to make the up/back/forward buttons smaller??
[12:02] <LiENUS> kelsin, and im stuck at setting up ad hoc
[12:02] <jin_> on the main toolbar
[12:02] <LiENUS> how do i set up an ad hoc connection between a linux and windows xp machine
[12:02] <eck> cinex: if you need to use iptables you need to use the logging options in iptables or maybe tcpdump to debug it
[12:02] <omglazers> ok, give 'em to me
[12:02] <kelsin> zYe: no I'm trying to tell you that this is an ubuntu os channel, and you are asking router and modem configuration questions, Ubuntu can connect to your router (if it's setup correctly) via ethernet, just like any other OS
[12:02] <jin_> !flash
[12:02] <eck> but you should just have your router doing all the work
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:02] <K3nto> hey guys this is one of my beryl issues : /  http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7104/screenshotgl8.png
[12:03] <K3nto> the only one i guess
[12:03] <kelsin> LiENUS: I don't know much of anything about ad-hoc networks. I know that My girlfriend and I get it to work, but setting my wireless card (with iwconfig) to be in adhoc mode with a unique essid, then it shows up in windows, normaly works, but past it "just working" I don't know much
[12:03] <cinex> eck: thanks ill check it out
[12:04] <LiENUS> kelsin,  how do i set it up with iwconfig?
[12:04] <blanky> hey guys my wireless internet isnt working after installing xubuntu, i did lshw and it says UNCLAIMED, what should I do?
[12:04] <grimboy> Anyone know how to turn off the eight seconds of shift means slow keys? I've tried in Preferences > Keyboard and Preferences > Assistive Technology Preferences.
[12:04] <erUSUL> omglazers:  'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' and 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'
[12:05] <godofredo07> can someone please help me...I just need to learn how to edit my startup script... :)
[12:05] <mr_big_down_low> hey im trying to update from 6.06 to 6.10 and im using this command : gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it isnt showing the update iv done it before and it did work
[12:05] <kelsin> LiENUS: "iwconfig <interface> mode adhoc", then: "iwconfig <interface> essid <anyword>", I think, man iwconfig to double check that I have the spelling correct
[12:05] <omglazers> Side note, how do I enable sudo permissions to move/delete stuff in the file browser?
[12:06] <godofredo07> i hope editing a startup script in ubuntu is easy :)
[12:06] <globe> can anyone tell me how to check if my swap is working?
[12:06] <zYe> kelsin: so do you know of any router/modem irc rooms around that could help me due to my superb ignorance on this subject?
[12:06] <mr_big_down_low>  hey im trying to update from 6.06 to 6.10 and im using this command : gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it isnt showing the update iv done it before and it did work
[12:07] <n-iCe> How can i make faster my firefox?
[12:07] <mr_big_down_low> can anyone help?
[12:07] <LiENUS> kelsin,  what about ips?
[12:07] <n-iCe> I'm using xubuntu
[12:07] <kelsin> zYe: your best bet is honestly the manuals for your equipement and help from your ISP, it will get done faster if you call them
[12:07] <magnushc> which media pplayer is good?
[12:07] <godofredo07> fasterfox extension?
[12:07] <K3nto> !nvidia
[12:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <grimboy> !swiftfox
[12:07] <kelsin> LiENUS: I forget whether we had to set them ourselves or let the adhoc driver work, honestly I don't know more then what I've already said
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: you might wanna try swiftfox, choose your arch
[12:07] <godofredo07> zYe, do you know how i can add a little code to the startup script???????
[12:07] <LiENUS> :/
[12:07] <magnushc> anyone knows a good media player
[12:07] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,  is faster than firefox ?
[12:07] <jlgaddis> !vmware
[12:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[12:07] <n-iCe> !swiftfox
[12:08] <LiENUS> anyone else know anything about setting up ad-hoc networks between linux and windows?
[12:08] <grimboy> Anyone know how to turn off the eight seconds of shift means slow keys? I've tried in Preferences > Keyboard and Preferences > Assistive Technology Preferences. It's annoying because sometimes I'll hold down shift whilst thinking about what I'm going to type.
[12:08] <kelsin> magnushc: for what, movies? music?
[12:08] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: it's a build of firefox optimized for different processors and ith many optimization flags on. it is faster
[12:08] <mr_big_down_low> can anyone help me?
[12:08] <dan7373> Hello - can anyone help with switching video cards from ATI to nVidia with ubuntu already installed?
[12:08] <erUSUL> omglazers: please adress me as i do or i will miss you in the noise... use 'gksu nautilus'
[12:08] <n-iCe> mx-zoom, how can i downlaod it ?
[12:08] <SmileyLap> hey guys, i want to control my laptops cpu etc, to lower the heat output, how would i manage this?
[12:08] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: http://www.getswiftfox.com/ , what's your processor?
[12:08] <DM|> smileylap emifreq
[12:08] <jairuncaloth> anyone have experiance with savage video cards?
[12:08] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,  no idea
[12:09] <n-iCe> how can i know ?
[12:09] <grimboy> n-iCe, Or you can use automatix.
[12:09] <godofredo07> dan7373, can't you just change them and then install nvidia drivers via automatix????
[12:09] <SmileyLap> DM|: is that a gui app?
[12:09] <grimboy> n-iCe, Which does it automatically.
[12:09] <grimboy> !automatix | n-iCe
[12:09] <ubotu> n-iCe: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:09] <DM|> smileylap a applet on the gnome bar
[12:09] <omglazers> erUSUL: I ran the two commands you asked, and neither had a problem but I still got the same error that I showed you in the pastebin
[12:09] <SmileyLap> DM|: perfect ^_^
[12:09] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:09] <grimboy> !WorksForMe | n-iCe
[12:09] <ubotu> n-iCe: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:09] <dan7373> I don't know - would i have to go to some neutral drivers since I'm on ATI drivers now?
[12:09] <DM|> smileylap should be able to apt-get install it
[12:09] <jin_> hi
[12:09] <jin_> why isn't there an update for firefox to upgrade from 1.5 to 2?
[12:10] <godofredo07> dan7373, i believe so but, once you install the nvidia drivers you should be back on track...am i right guys??
[12:10] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,  this?  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz
[12:10] <SmileyLap> DM|: yeah the tool is getting it now :)
[12:10] <mbdl> can anyone help me with upgrading to edgy?
[12:10] <kelsin> jin_: Firefox 2.0 wasn't ready in time for edgy, it will be in fiesty so I hear, major software version upgrades aren't carried out inbetween releases
[12:10] <foormea> !fonts
[12:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:10] <DM|> smileylap cool, have fun.
[12:10] <jin_> kelsin, I'm on dapper
[12:11] <toulouse> can overburning write an extra 50 mb?
[12:11] <SmileyLap> DM|: as you were so helpful, anyway to disable the mouseclick function on my mousepad?
[12:11] <LiENUS> kelsin, how do i install firestarter?
[12:11] <SmileyLap> :O
[12:11] <kelsin> jin_: well then that explains it ever more, the same thing applies, major version upgrades are only done between releases, dapper won't get firefox 2
[12:11] <LiENUS> the apt-get install firestarter failed
[12:11] <kelsin> LiENUS: sudo aptitude install firestarter, or search for it in synaptic, look up the ubuntu manuals online about how to install software
[12:11] <LiENUS> kelsin,  install failed
[12:11] <mbdl> please tell me if your all too busy and ill come back later
[12:12] <jin_> kelsin, what happen to security fixes then?
[12:12] <LiENUS> firestarter wont run
[12:12] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: when downloading, choose pentium 4 :), or try automatix, it seems to do it automagically. get automatix here: www.getautomatix.com/
[12:12] <rivereye> does anyone in here know anything about ftape?
[12:12] <toulouse> how much farther can overburning get you?
[12:12] <jin_> kelsin, I'm sure firefox 1.5 has bugs
[12:12] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,  i already downlaod it i have the file in desktop now ?
[12:12] <kelsin> jin_: you'd have to ask a developer, if you want either upgrade your ubuntu install or look into installing firefox 2
[12:12] <julien__> hello
[12:12] <kelsin> !firefox | jin_
[12:12] <ubotu> jin_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:13] <LordLimecat> is there any reason someone with nvidia drivers installed cant simply overwrite them with a new install?
[12:13] <LordLimecat> using the nvidia installl script?
[12:13] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: downloaded from getswiftfox.com? untar it and extract it to some place like /opt/
[12:13] <jin_> kelsin, nah, I'm gonna stick with dapper. it's more stable than all others.
[12:13] <up365> mbdl, state your problem if someone can help they will
[12:13] <julien__> i try to install cedega with wineCVS.sh, but there's a error, is someone get an old version that work ?
[12:13] <n-iCe> it's a .sh
[12:13] <kelsin> jin_: then read that guide about installing 2.0, as far as bug questions about firefow 1.5 you'd have to ask one of the firefox maintainers or someone more knowledgable then me
[12:14] <mbdl> hello?!?!
[12:14] <kelsin> julien__: Are you using a game that needs cedage as opposed to just plain wine?
[12:14] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: what is a sh?
[12:14] <n-iCe> .sh the extension
[12:14] <n-iCe> install-swiftfox.sh
[12:14] <Xenguy> mx-zoom: shell script
[12:14] <kelsin> mbdl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[12:14] <up365> mbdl, state your problem so someone knows what it is
[12:14] <mx-zoom> Xenguy: I know what a sh is lol
[12:14] <magnushc> which media player is good for movies and web TV
[12:14] <toulouse> how do i uninstall something in wine???
[12:15] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: you talking about swiftfox or automatix?
[12:15] <julien__> kelsin: i try to install aoe2 with wine, but i have an error
[12:15] <n-iCe> swift
[12:15] <Xenguy> mx-zoom: 18:15 < mx-zoom> n-iCe: what is a sh?
[12:15] <kelsin> toulouse: same as in windows, run the uninstall program, delete the folder and scan the registry, etc etc
[12:15] <mx-zoom> Xenguy: I meant which of the files was a sh
[12:15] <loppa> Does anybody know how .tgz files work?
[12:15] <mx-zoom> lol
[12:15] <mbdl> kelsin:dont that already and it doesnt show
[12:15] <kelsin> julien__: ahhh, yeah not a directX game, just double checking, good luck
[12:15] <lyam> i have downloaded .tar.gz archive from gnome-look site (an image and config file) and dont know how install it. any ideas?
[12:15] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: download this  http://www.getswiftfox.com/builds/releases/2.0.0.2/swiftfox-2.0.0.2-pentium4.tar.bz2 and extract it to /opt/
[12:16] <Xenguy> loppa: they are compressed (.gz) tar (.tar) files
[12:16] <eric__> thanks
[12:16] <mbdl> kelsin: done that...and it doesnt show i dont know why maby they took it off...but ya
[12:16] <SmileyLap> anyway to disable the mouseclick function on my mousepad?
[12:16] <godofredo07> how do i move a file to /etc/init.d as root??? please help me :(
[12:16] <n-iCe> ok
[12:16] <grimboy> Oh, solved with gconf-editor
[12:16] <godofredo07> the file is called gamesound
[12:17] <blanky> guys please help it's urgent! I just ran lshw | grep network and it says network: unclaimed, what does that mean?
[12:17] <kelsin> mbdl: I don't have time to help you upgrade, just wanted to point you to the website that does
[12:17] <erUSUL> godofredo07: with sudo ??
[12:17] <erUSUL> !sudo > godofredo07
[12:17] <godofredo07> yes sudo
[12:17] <godofredo07> i know how to use it
[12:17] <godofredo07> could you just give me an example to refresh my mem
[12:17] <godofredo07> i think i'm doing it right
[12:18] <SmileyLap> erUSUL: ! :D Maybe you can help again, i want to stop my mousepad doing the mouseclick function.
[12:18] <erUSUL> godofredo07: sudo mv file /destination
[12:18] <blanky> anyone please?
[12:18] <loppa> Xenguy, okay. Now that I've unpacked it, you know how to install drivers?
[12:18] <erUSUL> SmileyLap: i do not have experience with ubuntu in laptops...
[12:18] <Xenguy> loppa: what drivers?
[12:18] <r3factored> godofredo07: i removed wine and installed via automatrix2 and get the same errors on starting winecfg
[12:18] <godofredo07> r3factored, sorry
[12:18] <loppa> Xenguy via drivers for my graphics card.
[12:19] <toulouse> how do i get to the wine uninstall programs? ( i want to uninstall firefox)
[12:19] <godofredo07> r3factored,what are the errors?
[12:19] <r3factored> godofredo07: np thanks for the tip though
[12:19] <SmileyLap> erUSUL: ah nevermind :?
[12:19] <LordLimecat> quick question--very important
[12:19] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,
[12:19] <Xenguy> loppa: nope.  I'd recommend you find a good howto webpage for ubuntu via
[12:19] <r3factored> godofredo07: http://www.shortText.com/4zjl8c
[12:19] <LordLimecat> helpin someone reinstall nvidia drivers....want to make sure its ok to remove these
[12:19] <n-iCe> said that i don't have permission to extract in /opt
[12:19] <LordLimecat> this should NOT be uninstalled, should it?
[12:19] <LordLimecat> X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[12:19] <mbdl> can anyone else help me whith my update issue... form 6.06 to 6.10 the install command now working?!?!?!
[12:19] <cryptik> su
[12:19] <loppa> Xenguy, running Suse actually. Never got the hang of ubuntu.
[12:20] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: use sudo
[12:20] <HiDensity> i can't get adesklets to load...I run the .py file and nothing happens
[12:20] <n-iCe> mx-zoom,  ah ?
[12:20] <godofredo07> r3factored, what are you trying to run?
[12:20] <cryptik> or just su
[12:20] <n-iCe> i did it not in the terminal, how can i do it in terminal ?
[12:20] <r3factored> godofredo07: winecfg for the first time
[12:20] <godofredo07> r3factored, you could always just run windows virtually with VMware
[12:20] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: sudo nautilus /opt/ copy the file there and extract it
[12:20] <r3factored> godofredo07: yeah i know buy vmware server is heavy maybe ill try crossover
[12:20] <lyam> how to convert .png image to .so?
[12:20] <godofredo07> r3factored, it should work unless you are trying to play games
[12:21] <r3factored> godofredo07: no just windows apps - ive used it before
[12:21] <godofredo07> huh
[12:21] <godofredo07> with my experience with wine...its either hit or miss
[12:21] <toulouse> godofredo07: true
[12:21] <Minibnz> hi all i need a little help... i am trying to compile an app that requires the mysql header files.. but i am only able to find them in RPM format is there a way to install them onmy ubuntu box
[12:21] <HiDensity> can you run os x apps with wine?
[12:21] <godofredo07> r3factored,i installed ubuntu 6.10 ran automatix and installed wine
[12:22] <godofredo07> r3factored, that is the only way i could get it to work smooth or at all
[12:22] <toulouse> do you know how to find the uninstall programs within wine
[12:22] <n-iCe> I don't understand mx-zoom
[12:22] <Lazergunz> anyone know how to uninstall the ATI driver completley?
[12:22] <r3factored> godofredo07: ok thanks for the info - im bailing on wine and going with crossover or wmware
[12:22] <godofredo07> r2factored, have you just tried running something directly?
[12:22] <netsrot> gaim seems to crash quite often, is there any other good multi protocol chat client that works with ubuntu?
[12:22] <r3factored> godofredo07: ???
[12:22] <ElbridgeGerry> How do I install build-essential without my installation cd?
[12:23] <godofredo07> r3factored, sorry..have you just tried running it straight
[12:23] <r3factored> godofredo07: no
[12:23] <BAZOOKA> You have to buy it
[12:23] <whosit> Kopete is another client
[12:23] <godofredo07> r3factored, just right click on it and say run with wine?
[12:23] <crdlb> ElbridgeGerry, do you have an internet connection?
[12:23] <n-iCe> the name is : swiftfox-2.0.0.2-pentium4.tar.bz2
[12:23] <Minibnz> the header files i need are from version 3.23... if anyone knows where i can get an ubuntu install for them that would be easier
[12:23] <r3factored> ill try
[12:23] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: I'm here.
[12:23] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: =p
[12:23] <blanky> !wireless
[12:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:23] <BAZOOKA>  :D  '<
[12:24] <BAZOOKA> Anybody want to talk to me?
[12:24] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: It says "Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025) in the drive /cdrom/ and press enter"
[12:24] <mx-zoom> n-iCe: get in #abcdefgh
[12:24] <crdlb> ElbridgeGerry, well you could be on a different computer :D
[12:24] <BAZOOKA> I know how to make viruses
[12:24] <godofredo07> r3factored, try it because i have to go real quick and want to see what happens :)
[12:24] <netsrot> whosit: is Kopete stable?
[12:24] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: Why does it ask me for that?
[12:24] <godofredo07> r3factored, it might just work... :)
[12:24] <whosit> Seems to be for me
[12:24] <godofredo07> r3factored, or not!
[12:24] <r3factored> godofredo07: thanks will do
[12:24] <netsrot> whosit: ok thanks.
[12:24] <godofredo07> k bye
[12:25] <whosit> np
[12:25] <ElbridgeGerry> Is there a flag that says just to get it from the server?
[12:25] <n-iCe> what i need to do now ?
[12:25] <BAZOOKA> I'm going to send every one of you viruses from tommorrow
[12:25] <BAZOOKA> l
[12:25] <BAZOOKA> o
[12:25] <BAZOOKA> l
[12:25] <crdlb> ElbridgeGerry, what are you using to install it? synaptic?
[12:25] <BAZOOKA> yep
[12:26] <crdlb> ElbridgeGerry, I know you can temporarily add the cd to synaptic, but I've never seen it require the cd
[12:26] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: apt-get
[12:26] <jin_> when moving a window, it leaves traces behind for half of a second, any way to fix that?
[12:26] <crdlb> ElbridgeGerry, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: Should I remove the CD from my repo list?
[12:27] <ElbridgeGerry> Wait,
[12:27] <ElbridgeGerry> you just said that
[12:27] <ElbridgeGerry> =p
[12:27] <lufis> Is there a way to boot from a livecd and resize an existing partition without installing anything?
[12:27] <ElbridgeGerry> lufis: Look for the gparted liveCD
[12:27] <phaedra> lufis, Yes. Use gparted.
[12:27] <cryptik> or qtparted
[12:28] <lufis> ElbridgeGerry: i'd really rather not use another cd for something i'm only going to use once. can it not be done from the ubuntu livecd?
[12:28] <ElbridgeGerry> lufis: I think gparted is on the LiveCD
[12:28] <lufis> ElbridgeGerry: ah, okay
[12:28] <lufis> thanks
[12:28] <AaronMT> I cant load herd5, I get a "cant access TTY job control (turned off)" error along with something about initramfs? Any suggesstions?
[12:29] <ElbridgeGerry> AaronMT: #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <Mach3> does anyone have experience with dual booting windows from a raid0 and ubuntu from a 3rd hdd?
[12:29] <ElbridgeGerry> They're more likely to know about Fiesty
[12:30] <ElbridgeGerry> crdlb: It worked, thanks.
[12:31] <Shank> Anyone know what to use to put music on a nokia phone?
[12:32] <BenPA> hi all ... can any one help with missing java in Ubuntu 8.07
[12:32] <MadP3nGu1n> why cant i connect to my wifi router,but have access to someone else network?
[12:32] <ClarKent> anyone know how to save sessions in openbox? I can't get the wallpaper to change after reboot
[12:32] <lufis> BenPA: you should be able to install java in synaptic
[12:33] <sergo> Shank install your nokia Cd softWare and then connect the telephone to pc via Usb Port ...
[12:33] <lufis> BenPA: https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html
[12:33] <BenPA> I am missing something in one of my browsers
[12:34] <ElbridgeGerry> Ubuntu 8.07?
[12:34] <omegabeta> !kde
[12:34] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:34] <sergo> !xfce
[12:34] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:34] <lufis> BenPA: follow that guide, it installs the firefox plugin as well
[12:34] <sergo> omegabeta if i will install xubuntu-desktop what will hapen with gnome-desktop?
[12:34] <sergo> ?
[12:34] <BenPA> ok I will see if reloading helps
[12:34] <sergo> :)
[12:34] <Shank> sergo, it didnt come with a cd :(
[12:35] <lufis> BenPA: well, reloading won't help if you don't install java first...
[12:35] <sergo> Shank i know, but maybe the mirror from our country have xubuntu-desktop on it...
[12:35] <BenPA> true
[12:35] <sergo> becouse i want xubuntu but don't want to remove ubuntu and install xubuntu from 0 ...
[12:36] <Shank> i dont have xubuntu
[12:36] <Shank> i meant the nokia
[12:36] <sergo> :))
[12:36] <BenPA> but some browsers work and some don't ... I installed Opera from automatix and it seems to be missing somethings that deal with java
[12:36] <sergo> i think what you try to help me
[12:36] <godofredo07> can someone tell me how to make this command executable...AKA (Like a double click i can put on my desktop) : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8473/
[12:36] <ompaul> BenPA, maybe you need to ask the #automatix people about that cos
[12:37] <ompaul> !automatix
[12:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:37] <lufis> BenPA: that may be the case. you may have to link the java plugin libraries to opera if they work for it as well
[12:37] <BenPA> then again firefox has something missing too
[12:37] <Q_Continuum> eck: I did what you suggested, with the dd... and wrote that image to the drive.  But then it wanted the ISO, but when I wrote it out it took the free space that had been available in that image and wrote that to the drive.  So the 16GB Flash drive only saw 250MB or so of free space.  Not enough for the .ISO.
[12:37] <sergo> Shank what your problem then
[12:37] <lufis> BenPA: are you running a custom firefox?
[12:37] <ubuntu_almost_wo> can anyone help me?  When I shutdown edgy it locks up...
[12:37] <lufis> BenPA: that is, not from the repos?
[12:37] <omegabeta> !xfce
[12:37] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:37] <BenPA> how do I link
[12:37] <Q_Continuum> eck: So what I need to figure out, is how I can modify that .img before I dd it, or if I can partition it manually into smaller chunks and dd it to a sole partition.
[12:37] <godofredo07> just put the url in
[12:37] <ompaul> ubuntu_almost_wo, what is the last message on the screen?
[12:37] <lufis> BenPA: sudo ln -s source destination
[12:37] <BenPA> I am not running a custom firefox
[12:38] <godofredo07> or use tinurl.com
[12:38] <lufis> BenPA: did you install java though?
[12:38] <ubuntu_almost_wo> no message just black screen
[12:38] <ubuntu_almost_wo> fresh install... nforce1 chipset
[12:38] <ubuntu_almost_wo> all updates
[12:38] <brussel> is there a quicktime plugin for ubuntu?
[12:38] <lufis> BenPA: it isn't installed by default
[12:38] <BenPA> I thought I did but I will try again
[12:38] <lufis> brussel: no, but totem works well
[12:38] <BenPA> ok
[12:38] <godofredo07> Can someone please tell me how to make this script executable AKA (a double click launcher for desktop) ?????? here it is... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8473/
[12:38] <sergo> omegabeta if i install xubunut-desktop (currently i'm using ubuntu) will ubuntu be completely looking as xubuntu? -)
[12:38] <BenPA> brb
[12:38] <ompaul> ubuntu_almost_wo, no idea without a clue from the screen
[12:39] <ubuntu_almost_wo> how do I get a clue from the screen?
[12:39] <lufis> BenPA: type about:plugins in firefox and see if java's listed
[12:39] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  chmod +x it, and make an icon launcher on the desktop for it.. check out the gnome guides for beginners docs
[12:39] <lufis> brussel: provided you have the proper codecs installed
[12:39] <brussel> lufis, i'm browsing and there is a tutorial in quicktime, can i use totem to watch it?
[12:39] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, i do what?
[12:39] <lufis> brussel: if you have the codecs
[12:39] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, I go to the terminal
[12:39] <ompaul> ubuntu_almost_wo, it should say stuff as it is shutting down but you say it is not
[12:39] <brussel> lufis, which codecs?
[12:39] <omegabeta> ompaul: Sego, you dont want to use xfce is you have to adk.. trust me on that ;)
[12:39] <erUSUL> godofredo07: those two lines are better in /etc/rc.local
[12:39] <ubuntu_almost_wo> is their a log I can do
[12:39] <ubuntu_almost_wo> ?
[12:40] <lufis> brussel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:40] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  are we back to  learning the basics of linux again? :)
[12:40] <brussel> lufis: k
[12:40] <lufis> :)
[12:40] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, define basics :)
[12:40] <ompaul> ubuntu_almost_wo, you could ctrl alt F1 and then log in, then >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop << then >> sudo shutdown -h now << and see what comes up on the screen
[12:41] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  if you dont know about 'chmod +x' thats about linux day 2 of linux 101 class..
[12:41] <eegore> !WorksForMe
[12:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:41] <ubuntu_almost_wo> it seems to only do it with the powerbutton
[12:41] <ompaul> ubuntu_almost_wo, well are you going to do what I suggested?
[12:42] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, I copy and pasted the text into a file called "etfix" then, I did cd ~/Desktop then chmod +x etfix ....now nothing changed :)
[12:43] <Urbanmage> hey all, I have a real quick question.  I looked through the documentation and didn't find anything one way or the other, so I thought I'd come here as a last resort.
[12:43] <dougb> Does Ubuntu have the DST bug like Windows has?
[12:43] <lufis> dougb: dunno, but i bet you ubuntu won't charge for a patch ;)
[12:43] <ompaul> dougb, define what the DST bug is
[12:43] <dougb> seriously, $4,000 for a patch?
[12:43] <crdlb> dougb, I assume an update has been made
[12:44] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, you there?
[12:44] <mnk0> hey sup
[12:44] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, did i do it completely wrong????
[12:44] <mnk0> im having problems with xgl+beryl on ati
[12:44] <dougb> they call it a "bug" but it's changing the hard coded date set to change clocks for DST, since Bush changed it to be a few weeks earlier, not all OS's are aware of this and won't update the time accordingly
[12:44] <mnk0> folloewd a guide, and when i startup, the cube is all white
[12:44] <mnk0> can't see anything on screen
[12:44] <Urbanmage> I downloaded the desktop cd and I'm trying to figure out if I can install the server edition from it.  I thought maybe they might be the same cd with different options, but I wasn't sure
[12:44] <lufis> dougb: shrub is deciding that kind of thing now? oh god help us
[12:45] <jlgaddis> dougb: Run 'date -d "March 27"' in a terminal.
[12:45] <jlgaddis> dougb: If it says xDT instead of xST, you're fine.
[12:45] <jlgaddis> dougb: Debian has the updated tzdata package, so I'm sure that Ubuntu does as well.
[12:45] <Shank> when something asks me for a prefix where I want to install something in /usr/local does it mean , where to put it i.e. /games or the like?
[12:46] <ompaul> when is the summer time starting?
[12:46] <dougb> yea, it showed xDT
[12:46] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  try a 'ls -l whateverfile' and see if the permissions are different nopw
[12:46] <erUSUL> dougb: there's been a lot of tzdata updates lately so no i think that ubuntu does not have the dst bug
[12:46] <jlgaddis> dougb: You're fine then.
[12:46] <gumby600m> mediawiki
[12:46] <dougb> it wasn't a big deal, I just thought how Microsoft is charging $4k to "fix" the bug is ridiculous
[12:46] <jlgaddis> dougb: Say what?  $4,000?
[12:46] <mnk0> heh
[12:46] <lufis> Shank: it depends on where you want it. both are valid paths
[12:46] <jlgaddis> Whoever told you that is lying.
[12:46] <mnk0> anyone use irssi ?
[12:47] <erUSUL> mnk0: me
[12:47] <dougb> yeah jlgaddis, and they dropped the price from $40k
[12:47] <Xenguy> !anyone > mnk0
[12:47] <tommyv> hi i just mounted a partition to ~/partition1, but now i cant move any files to it or anything cause of file permissions, how do i make it readable/writeable??
[12:47] <mnk0> erUSUL: do u know about hiding joins and parts from the chat??
[12:47] <Dr_willis> MS saved you 36,000$
[12:47] <Shank> lufis, what does it mean by prefix?
[12:47] <dougb> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129550-c,industrynews/article.html
[12:47] <Dr_willis> mnk0,  you use the ignore command.
[12:47] <mnk0> i tried it
[12:47] <lufis> Shank: just where it installs to. if you choose /usr/local, it will send all the files there
[12:47] <Dr_willis> mnk0,  like /gnore PARTS ALL
[12:47] <mnk0> oh yeah?
[12:47] <Urbanmage> does anyone have experience with the server edition of ubuntu?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> mnk0,  and i ALWATYS get it backeareds
[12:48] <lufis> Shank: it doesn't matter i don't guess, both are recognized when you run commands
[12:48] <tommyv> hi i just mounted a partition to ~/partition1, but now i cant move any files to it or anything cause of file permissions, how do i make it readable/writeable??
[12:48] <Xenguy> !anyone > Urbanmage
[12:48] <erUSUL> mnk0: /help ignore
[12:48] <mnk0> ok
[12:48] <Dr_willis> tommyv,  and what kind of partition/filesystem is this?
[12:48] <ebichuhamster> !rules
[12:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:48] <lufis> Shank: if a command is in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin, it will work either way
[12:48] <Shank> ok, thanks
[12:48] <jlgaddis> dougb: I manage Windows Servers for a .edu and have been dealing with this for the last few months.  I can state, definitively, that Microsoft is *NOT* charging to fix the "bug".
[12:48] <lufis> :)
[12:48] <mnk0> do i have to quit irssi for it to take effect?
[12:48] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, this is what it says: -rwx--x--x 1 godofredo godofredo 113 2007-03-03 18:40 etts_fix
[12:48] <tommyv> Dr_willis: it's fat32
[12:48] <Dr_willis> mnk0,  of course not. that would be silly
[12:49] <dougb> Depends how old your software is jlgaddis
[12:49] <Shank> When it asks for a devicepath and the device is usbdisk, do i put /dev/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk or which?
[12:49] <root_> i cant get into xwindows
[12:49] <mnk0> '/ignore joins ALL
[12:49] <root_> help
[12:49] <Dr_willis> tommyv,  use the proper mount or fstab options. its well documented.
[12:49] <jlgaddis> dougb: If you're running crap older than Windows 2000, perhaps.
[12:49] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[12:49] <jlgaddis> dougb: They're providing fixes for everything from Win2K and later.
[12:49] <root_> i installed barrel
[12:49] <Dr_willis> !vfat
[12:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:50] <mnk0> hmm dosnt seem to work tho
[12:50] <mnk0> heh
[12:50] <dougb> Windows 2k isn't included actually "Among the titles in that extended support category are Windows 2000, Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2000, the e-mail and calendar client included with Office 2000. 		For users running that software, Microsoft charges $4,000 per product for DST fixes."
[12:50] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, no clue what i just sent you meant...
[12:50] <lupo> I'm sorry. bye
[12:50] <jamiehd> Hello
[12:50] <lufis> root_: you mean beryl?
[12:50] <jlgaddis> dougb: They're providing a registry fix for Windows 2000.  I know, I'm installing it on a number of servers tomorrow morning.
[12:50] <lufis> hi jamiehd
[12:51] <jamiehd> Does anyone here no anything about ubuntu server?
[12:51] <jlgaddis> dougb: I can provide you with plenty of URLs on microsoft.com, if you'd like to continuing spreading FUD.
[12:51] <jamiehd> hi lufis
[12:51] <dougb> jlgaddis: well that is good to know.
[12:51] <lufis> jamiehd: what's the issue?
[12:51] <ompaul> jamiehd, ask the real question, i.e. the next one
[12:51] <Zambezi> Anybody know how to start Gajims keyring in E17?
[12:51] <ompaul> :)
[12:51] <jamiehd> How do I configure ftp, so I can actually upload files to my server?
[12:51] <dougb> haha no jlgaddis, I just think the price tag of the fix is ridiculous
[12:52] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  back to the nasty learning of fundamentals again. :) the 'x' means the file is executable.
[12:52] <jlgaddis> dougb: If that's even true that they're charging it for stuff older than Win2K, I don't blame them.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  so NOW you can type ./whateverthatfileis
[12:52] <Dr_willis> and it will run
[12:52] <jlgaddis> dougb: There's a reason why the products are EOL'd.  They're friggin' old and you shouldn't be running them.
[12:53] <dougb> That's true, maybe the price tag is incentive to upgrade
[12:53] <erUSUL> mnk0: something like /ignore #ubuntu * -ALL +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[12:53] <Urbanmage> Can you install the server edition from the desktop cd?
[12:53] <godofredo07> how do i become root?
[12:53] <mnk0> hmm cant u set that globally? without specifying the channel?
[12:53] <godofredo07> sudo -i?
[12:53] <lufis> Urbanmage: don't think so
[12:53] <nine09> Urban: i am wondering the same thing
[12:53] <Urbanmage> hmmmm
[12:54] <erUSUL> mnk0: something like /ignore * * -ALL +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS  ??
[12:54] <nine09> there don't seem to be any other ISO's to choose from
[12:54] <jamiehd> How do I configure ftp, so I can actually upload files to my server?
[12:54] <lufis> Urbanmage: though there might be a server metapakcage or something
[12:54] <Alethes> gah, is there anyway I can revert to the previous version of the nvidia driver?
[12:54] <Alethes> I did the update as suggested and now X dies on me randomly
[12:55] <Urbanmage> Lufis: thanks for the tip, I'll have to check.  I guess I'm really just being lazy and wanting to save myself the trouble of burning a new cd ;-)
[12:55] <lufis> Urbanmage: yeah, i feel ya
[12:55] <lufis> Urbanmage: search in synaptic for "server edition" or something along those lines
[12:55] <godofredo07> now, if i could only figure out how to make this program start up automatically!
[12:55] <Woodstokk> looking for someone who can get me on a list to get Ubuntu CD's, can anyone help? (Not the 'shipit' info, I registered there and its not working right)
[12:55] <lufis> jamiehd: proftpd?
[12:56] <jamiehd> What ever came with the disk
[12:56] <joshjosh> what's the terminal command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running.
[12:56] <joshjosh> or, how can i period?
[12:56] <jamiehd> I'm sorry, I don't know too much about it/
[12:56] <cr4z3d> hmm.. how do i get rid of the | in x-chat
[12:56] <nine09> Urban: I have looked through the Help file fairly well, and havent found a clue to proceed with the server isntall
[12:56] <godofredo07> Now, does anyone know how to make a script run automatically on startup!!!!!! :)
[12:56] <erUSUL> joshjosh: lsb_release ??
[12:56] <n-iCe> joshjosh,  you can see it in about ubuntu
[12:56] <ardchoille> joshjosh: lsb_release -a
[12:56] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  depends on 'which' startup.
[12:56] <PokerFacePenguin> godofredo07: you running kde or gnome?   I know this is Ubuntu channel, but i gotta ask
[12:56] <lufis> jamiehd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[12:56] <erUSUL> godofredo07:i told you a few minutes ago "those two lines are better in /etc/rc.local"
[12:56] <jamiehd> thanks
[12:56] <ardchoille> joshjosh: or lsb_release -a | grep Release
[12:57] <Urbanmage> lufis: I'm actually installing it on a different system than my current box
[12:57] <lufis> Urbanmage: ah
[12:57] <Woodstokk> looking for someone who can get me on a list to get Ubuntu CD's, can anyone help? (Not the 'shipit' info, I registered there and its not working right)
[12:57] <godofredo07> PokerFacePenguin, Gnome
[12:57] <joshjosh> hmm...how can i find out which herd i'm running?
[12:57] <godofredo07> erUSUL, what?
[12:57] <godofredo07> erUSUL, i'm sooo confused.. :(
[12:57] <fr500> Woodstokk: as far as i know, you have to go to shipit.ubuntu.com and request them
[12:57] <lufis> joshjosh: i forget the command, but if you go to system > about ubuntu
[12:57] <Woodstokk> tried that... its not working right
[12:57] <godofredo07> erUSUL, someone emailed me a tutorial that told me to put it in etc/inid.d
[12:57] <okaratas> i prepared a deb packet for ubuntu which is not in the archives. how can i send this to archives? what should i do?
[12:57] <godofredo07> init.d*
[12:57] <joshjosh> blah. i'm in kde
[12:58] <lufis> joshjosh: oh, nvm then
[12:58] <lufis> joshjosh: look for "about ubuntu" somewhere i guess
[12:58] <Woodstokk> they want you to register a launchpad account.  I did that, and then it still does not let me in
[12:58] <erUSUL> godofredo07: you can add the two lines of your script to that file and they will be run at startup
[12:58] <leoIserver> how can i check if a filename is coded in UTF or if it is coded in ISO
[12:58] <PokerFacePenguin> godofredo07: then follow erUSUL directions...i was going to suggest the easy way...in my home dir (KDE) there is a subfolder of .kde called Autostart....i usually just add a line to a script i have in there
[12:58] <Xenguy> leoIserver: file filename
[12:58] <Xenguy> leoIserver: maybe
[12:58] <jamiehd> It said "couldn't find package proftpd"
[12:58] <godofredo07> okay, good...how do i access this file :) ..sorry
[12:59] <Xenguy> jamiehd: vsftpd  ?
[12:59] <PokerFacePenguin> sudo nano (or your favorite editor) filename
[12:59] <Akuma_> why is the php5 package dependent on apache? i want just php by itself ... ?
[12:59] <jamiehd> sudo apt-get vsftpd ?
[12:59] <lufis> jamiehd: run ps aux | grep proftpd
[12:59] <antoniou> hello everyone
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> joshjosh: did anyone tell you the command to see the version of ubuntu you're running/
[12:59] <Xenguy> jamiehd: sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[01:00] <Xenguy> jamiehd: if you want it installed
[01:00] <nine09> why do I have no money>?
[01:00] <foormea> does anyone use conky here? i've got a problem with fonts. i've got "use_xft yes" and "xftfont <existing_font_name>", either with conky 1.4.2 or with 1.4.5 built with xft support, it always uses the non-xft font specified by "font <font_name>"
[01:00] <Dr_willis> nine09,  you bought pizza?
[01:00] <godofredo07> erUSUL, okay, here is the file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8474/ where would i add those two lines of text ??
[01:00] <nine09> did i ever
[01:00] <lufis> nine09: you're just not model material :(
[01:00] <nine09> :P
[01:00] <ardchoille> Akuma_: ? what does php do without apache?
[01:01] <mnk0> lozl
[01:01] <jamiehd> vsftpd is already the newest version.
[01:01] <mnk0> pic plz
[01:01] <erUSUL> godofredo07: yes
[01:01] <calvinosaurus> hi all, can anyone tell me how to get a dual monitor display working?
[01:01] <leoIserver> doesnt seem to tell me anything about the filename Xenguy
[01:01] <Akuma_> ardchoille: it processes files
[01:01] <leoIserver> close though
[01:01] <godofredo07> erUSUL, where would i add the text?
[01:02] <Ghost> Hello, i just installed ubuntu on my comptuer (virtural machiene), and it is running root@, what do i need to do to start?
[01:02] <godofredo07> erUSUL, i'm looking at it right now ...
[01:02] <Akuma_> ardchoille: i just want to develpe a page or two real quick, there's no need to install apache for that
[01:02] <funesto> Hey guys.. Im trying to install the 64-bit version of Edgy with the Alternate CD and its basically telling me that i need to load drivers for my cdrom from a floppy... is there a place i could find linux drivers other than the manufacturer website?
[01:02] <erUSUL> godofredo07: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8475/
[01:02] <ardchoille> Akuma_: Ah, ok
[01:02] <Xenguy> leoIserver: just an idea - use it if it works :-)
[01:03] <Cyco> does anyone know of a way to troubleshoot init scripts, i am running edgy and my startup is getting hung at rc.local....If I hit enter it goes directly to login which is fine but just looking to solve this annoyance
[01:03] <jamiehd> I've tried to install proftpd, but it can't find the package
[01:03] <Cyco> i have sysv-rc-config and have disabled usplash amongst others and had no problems, only started hanging when i took quiet out of grub entry so i can see startup
[01:03] <godofredo07> erUSUL, oh shasta! I have it pasted in...but , its read only!
[01:04] <godofredo07> erUSUL, what should i do!!
[01:04] <erUSUL> Cyco: take a look at what you have  in /etc/rc.local (it should be mainly empty)
[01:04] <bdragonmsl> anyone know of a good channel for help with WoW??
[01:04] <PokerFacePenguin> Cyco: is something prompting you for a password?
[01:04] <Cyco> yes if i hit enter after rc.local (login prompt)
[01:04] <erUSUL> godofredo07: edit it with 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local'
[01:05] <Cyco> only entry in rc.local is exit 0 which is correct
[01:05] <mnk0> ok, so .. i started a xgl session after setup, and the whole cube is white
[01:06] <godofredo07> erUSUL, done now what?
[01:06] <erUSUL> Cyco: maybe rc.local is not to blame... the new init system does thins in paralell...
[01:06] <godofredo07> erUSUL, pray and restart?
[01:06] <Cyco> this is what i assumed
[01:06] <erUSUL> godofredo07: have you added the lines of the script?
[01:06] <godofredo07> erUSUL, yep and i saved it
[01:06] <jamiehd> Can anyone help me with my server problem:
[01:07] <Cyco> because it is odd, during running through scripts i see a prompt, then dissapears and winbind, etc etc loads and then hangs at rc.local
[01:07] <jamiehd> proftpd won't install
[01:07] <erUSUL> godofredo07: sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start
[01:07] <godofredo07> erUSUL, done...now what (it said ok)
[01:08] <erUSUL> godofredo07: it is done... those two lines will be run everytime the system starts
[01:08] <godofredo07> erUSUL, YOU ARE THE BEST!
[01:09] <godofredo07> erUSUL, how long have you been using ubuntu?
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> What would you recommend for conserving bandwidth on dialup, things like caching, image accelleration, etc.?
[01:09] <Cyco> erUSUL here is another question, I will research the init problem later as it poses no problems.  In sysv-rc-conf why are there still init scripts listed for packages that have been purged and are not in /etc/rcx.d
[01:09] <erUSUL> godofredo07: since a 4.10 warty beta
[01:09] <godofredo07> erUSUL, you are a vet!
[01:09] <cr4z3d> i have a question about customizing the ubuntu i guess it's the splash screen? after i login the brown background and ubuntu bar that comes up and shows what's loading. how do i change that?
[01:10] <erUSUL> Cyco: dunno sorry :(
[01:10] <godofredo07> erUSUL, is this closely tied to your career or something?
[01:10] <godofredo07> erUSUL, how do you have time?
[01:10] <erUSUL> godofredo07: no, only a hobby
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> !splash | cr4z3d
[01:10] <ubotu> cr4z3d: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[01:10] <erUSUL> godofredo07: time for what?
[01:10] <Shaba2> Hello folks
[01:10] <godofredo07> erUSUL, all the commands...and tweaking and messing around!
[01:10] <Cyco> erUSUL - THERE IS ALWAYS TIME FOR LINUX!
[01:11] <Shaba2> Does ipcop com with 6.10?
[01:11] <godofredo07> erUSUL, I like computers and love messing with them...I just hope someday I can remember commands off the top of my head like you guys!
[01:11] <calvinosaurus> how do I set up a second monitor?
[01:12] <godofredo07> erUSUL, well, I'll get out of your way :)
[01:12] <jamiehd> Sorry to keep on bugging you, but is there anyone who can help me with my ftp problem?
[01:12] <godofredo07> erUSUL, there are more people that need your help!
[01:12] <atomiku> can I apt-get install beryl?
[01:12] <kupesoft> What's the good C ide other than eclipse?
[01:12] <Cyco> yes atomiku
[01:12] <erUSUL> godofredo07: well i can use man while you are not looking ;)
[01:12] <atomiku> Cant find the specific package name but im sure ive done it before
[01:12] <maarten> Wonderful :) first Kubuntu installation, and no questions as of so far.... got my SMB working, got FTP server working, and my OpenTTD server has been playing with gamers since the start. (Used to run that on Windows)
[01:13] <Cyco> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <Shaba2> gordonjcp I have been building comps for 27 years
[01:13] <erUSUL> Shaba2: afaik ipcop is distribution in it's own right
[01:13] <Shaba2> and still do not remember some commands off the top of my head
[01:13] <Shaba2> thanks erUSUL
[01:13] <Shaba2> I am not to linux/unix/*ix
[01:14] <yomm>   maarten : good !
[01:14] <Cyco> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list (ATOMIKU for BERYL)
[01:14] <atomiku> thanks
[01:15] <calvinosaurus> I dunno if you've seen Idiocracy before (it's a good movie -  "s'got electrolytes") but ya see, the problem is that I'm at my friend's place and I want to play it on their badass hdtv from my laptop
[01:15] <beanhead> haha
[01:15] <beanhead> because it's what plants crave
[01:15] <calvinosaurus> exactly
[01:15] <neonum6> nighty night...I'm going to sleep
[01:16] <DigitalNinja> We are trying to build a test network for hacking. Just to play around. Can someone give me info on hacking into a Windows XP or Vista box? We are using nubuntu as our hacking OS.
[01:16] <ljlolel> I have a .sty package file for latex.  How do I install it?
[01:17] <maarten> For some reason I am getting.... well, OTHER thoughts when I see the word "latex".
[01:17] <lufis> lol
[01:18] <derekjww> Hello
[01:18] <lufis> derekjww: hi
[01:18] <Urbanmage> !rules
[01:18] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:18] <derekjww> I have my Ubuntu drapper installed, how do I upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy
[01:19] <lufis> derekjww: feisty will be released soon. are you sure you don't want to wait?
[01:19] <derekjww> I can
[01:19] <lufis> derekjww: it'll be out in april i think
[01:19] <ljlolel> he has to install edgy first anyway
[01:19] <lufis> ljlolel: really? i didn't know that
[01:19] <yomm> why ?
[01:20] <derekjww> but what do I have to do to upgrade anyways?
[01:20] <lufis> derekjww: gksudo update-manager -d
[01:21] <ljlolel> dependency progressions... I've had trouble
[01:21] <derekjww> there is nothing in the window?
[01:21] <lufis> derekjww: nothing at all?
[01:21] <yomm> I see !
[01:21] <derekjww> nothing
[01:22] <mikemacd> hey, can someone help me install the correct version of ubuntu on my system to get my beryl?
[01:22] <metalhedd> Whats with my fstab? lol.
[01:22] <metalhedd> i hope thats a common question.
[01:22] <DigitalNinja> Can one use Linux to hack into a Windows box? I've got nubuntu
[01:22] <mjr> of course you can
[01:22] <ClarKent> anyone have a link to a good Mutt tutorial for edgy?
[01:23] <yomm> Digitalninja : of course you can , it's just an complex subject
[01:23] <derekjww> well?
[01:23] <calvinosaurus> you're going to need alluminum cds and a strong arm
[01:23] <lufis> DigitalNinja: no one here is going to help you be malicious
[01:23] <metalhedd> why are my devices looking like this in fstab? UUID=0c4c3703-6006-4be1-a1a3-4c52658fb358
[01:23] <mikemacd> hey, can someone help me install the correct version of ubuntu on my system to get my beryl?
[01:23] <lufis> derekjww: hold on
[01:23] <kriel> i just installed 6.10 onto my laptop and everything works fine except sound. yes, everything is unmuted. can anyone help me? I think I might have found a solution, a patch on ALSA's bug website, but I'm not experienced enough in anything to use that without help.
[01:23] <DigitalNinja> yomm: I was at a tech expo where they had a vista box setup for hacking into. The goal was to find the file with some text in it and tell the judge what it is.
[01:23] <derekjww> lufis: ok
[01:24] <DigitalNinja> yomm: I didn't try to hack in but I was later told that it wasn't that hard to get in.
[01:24] <DigitalNinja> yomm: Do you know of any websites with this kind of info.
[01:24] <lufis> derekjww: gksudo update-manager -d
[01:24] <lufis> derekjww: whoops
[01:24] <erUSUL> !sound > kriel
[01:24] <mikemacd> !install
[01:24] <imc_> Firestarter question - how can I set it to protect on use of ppp0, not eth0
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:25] <lufis> derekjww: gksu update-manager -c 
[01:25] <derekjww> ubotu: who's that for?
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who's that for? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <yomm> Digitalninja : there are various way to test network security ,and network vulnerablities ,there is no short answer
[01:25] <jamiehd> how do I shut down using the teminal?
[01:26] <foormea> sudo init 0
[01:26] <erUSUL> jamiehd: shutdown -h now
[01:26] <jlgaddis> Don't feed the script kiddies.
[01:26] <DigitalNinja> yomm: True! I've looked at nubuntu which comes with a lot of security tools. Most of them require a lot of reading and testing just to get them to work.
[01:26] <derekjww> it still doesn't work
[01:26] <DigitalNinja> yomm: I was hoping someone in here could point me to a website with some info.
[01:26] <Dame> what partition manager ubuntu use when u are installing it?
[01:26] <lufis> derekjww: well i don't know. look at this http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[01:27] <jlgaddis> DigitalNinja: http://www.google.com/
[01:27] <jamiehd> Thanks erUSUL
[01:27] <andres> hello
[01:27] <DigitalNinja> jlgaddis: I'm searching
[01:27] <derekjww> I've already looked at this page
[01:27] <lufis> hi andres
[01:27] <metalhedd> can someone please explain how this UUID thing works in fstab? wats the deal? and for the record. I hate it already. lol
[01:27] <imc_> Firestarter question - how can I set it to protect on use of ppp0, not eth0
[01:27] <dabide> can someone recommend a FTP server i can use on my ubuntu server 6.10 ?
[01:27] <ljlolel> I have a .sty package file for latex.  How do I install it?
[01:27] <yomm> DigiNinja : a bib of googling should give you you plenty of results
[01:27] <DigitalNinja> jlgaddis: Maybe I need to get a trial copy of vista and do some scaning
[01:27] <andres>  hey , i tried to install ubuntu with the live cd , so i put the live cd in my cd room and i restarted my computer , after thata the live cd showed me some options ! , i started "stard or install" after that was loading and later my screen turn black, and nothing happened , why ?
[01:28] <jlgaddis> metalhedd: Each partition on your system is given a UUID.  It uses that instead of, say, /dev/sda4 to refer to the partition.
[01:28] <lufis> andres: which version?
[01:28] <metalhedd> how do i find out what the UUIDs are for all of my partitions?
[01:28] <andres> version 6.06 lts!
[01:28] <erUSUL> metalhedd: due to changes in the linux kernel ata drivers now hard disk devices will have to be adreesed by uuid
[01:28] <n-iCe> How can I install beryl in xubunto
[01:28] <mikemacd> I'm using an ATI video card, and I need to install Ubuntu (and then Beryl) onto my computer, without a CD.  Can someone help?
[01:28] <DigitalNinja> I have used nessus. Well, I was able to get it up and running. I scanned my own domain. That was about it
[01:28] <lufis> andres: i've had problems with booting from edgy. you can try removing "splash" from the grub menu and booting that way. it worked for me
[01:28] <erUSUL> metalhedd: to smooth the transition
[01:28] <n-iCe> In
[01:28] <n-iCe> xfce
[01:29] <jlgaddis> metalhedd: "e2label"
[01:29] <metalhedd> jlgaddis: thanks.
[01:29] <andres> ok , i'll try
[01:29] <erUSUL> metalhedd: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[01:29] <Dame> !parted
[01:29] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[01:29] <lufis> andres: if you need any help doing that jut ask
[01:29] <lufis> just
[01:29] <erUSUL> metalhedd: blkid too
[01:29] <andres> can i install the beryl without install ubuntu , only running with the live cd?
[01:29] <Dame> !partitons
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partitons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <metalhedd> jlgaddis: I can use e2label to assign a better UUID than that big long thing?
[01:30] <Dame> !partiton
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partiton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <mikemacd> Is there a way to access my files from the Windows XP part of my computer when I'm running Ubuntu?
[01:30] <lufis> andres: maybe, but you wouldn't want to
[01:30] <jlgaddis> !partition | Dame
[01:30] <andres> hmm
[01:30] <lufis> andres: the livecd loads itself into memory... you're stressing it as it is without all the eyecandy
[01:31] <metalhedd> jlgaddis: can I specify a label in fstab instead of a UUID?
[01:31] <billy> greetings
[01:31] <lufis> mikemacd: there are ext* drivers for windows... google "ext3 windows"
[01:31] <lufis> or ext2
[01:31] <andres> i've just get the live cd yesterday in a conference so i'm trying !
[01:31] <lufis> andres: ah
[01:32] <metalhedd> erUSUL: can I specify only a label in the fstab or does there need to be a uuid?
[01:32] <imc_> So WHY is something listening on port 139 out of the box with Ubuntu edgy and how can I kill it?
[01:32] <imc_> So WHY is something listening on port 139 out of the box with Ubuntu edgy and how can I kill it?
[01:32] <erUSUL> metalhedd: afaik you can use a label
[01:32] <erUSUL> imc_: samba?
[01:32] <mikemacd> lufis
[01:32] <mikemacd> what do i need drivers for?
[01:32] <imc_> erUSUL, prolly, but why out of the box, without me turning it on?
[01:32] <dustin> should i upgrade to edgy in order to use my palm?
[01:33] <lufis> mikemacd: oh, whoops, i misunderstood
[01:33] <Aozaki> Question about the language support: I have some Japanese music files, in the file browser I can read it just fine but when I load the files in to xmms or any other music program, it displays as boxes. Anyone know why?
[01:33] <Cyco> lufis ext3 for windows have you gotten it to work with resier?
[01:33] <metalhedd> erUSUL: one more q. can I assign labels to ntfs and fat partitions as well?
[01:33] <lufis> mikemacd: you'll need ntfs-3g for read/write support
[01:33] <Cyco> reiser?
[01:33] <lufis> Cyco: i don't use windows :P
[01:33] <metalhedd> this is a pain.. I have a lot of partitions to mount.
[01:33] <erUSUL> metalhedd: dunno
[01:33] <Cyco> lol my wife needs it :(
[01:33] <lufis> Cyco: have no idea. try googling around
[01:33] <imc_> OR rather, How can I make it so that Samba server is not on unless I ask it to be, and not accepting incoming connections?
[01:34] <lufis> !ntfs-3g | mikemacd
[01:34] <ubotu> mikemacd: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:34] <Cyco> will do  - - said it can, but i have not successfully achieved it....
[01:34] <yomm> does windows ext2/3 even support reiserfs  ?? ( hence the name .. )
[01:35] <rbil> imc_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[01:35] <Cyco> yomm no it doesnt, but their is a driver that supports ext3 and mounts your linuxfs as "drives"
[01:35] <imc_> rbil - I know how to do that, thanks. I'd like to stop it from starting on startup in the first place
[01:36] <yomm> Cyco : I know , I'm using ext3 on my xp , but reiserfs is a different fs so ;a different driver , right ?
[01:37] <lufis> yomm: i would assume so
[01:37] <yomm> ok just to make clear :)
[01:37] <Cyco> ya but reiser is a relative and is suppposed to work, i will investigate it
[01:37] <rbil> imc_: remove the softlink S20samba from /etc/rc5.d
[01:37] <lufis> yomm: i used an ext2 driver i think for accessing a few files back when i dualbooted. never had an issue with it, but reiserfs is a whole different filesystem
[01:38] <andres> !topic
[01:38] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:38] <jlgaddis> Heh, I imagine work on reiserfs has slowed down tremendously in the last few months, eh?  =)
[01:38] <erUSUL> imc_: sudo update-rc.d -f samba remove
[01:38] <dustin> hey i get this error
[01:38] <imc_> thanks erSUL
[01:38] <dustin> pi_bind error: /dev/pilot Too many levels of symbolic links
[01:38] <dabide> why do i get only a transfer speed of ~800kb/s when accessing files on my ubuntu server via ftp? also transfers via samba fileshare are slow, ive got a 10/100 nic installed
[01:38] <lufis> <obligatory joke> what a filesystem, though, killer performance!</obligatory joke>
[01:39] <dabide> i'm accessing the server via wlan in the local network
[01:39] <yomm> My xp crashed badly on one installation of the ext3 drivers , the other went fine
[01:39] <Lunar_Lamp> dabide, that sounds like a fast connection...
[01:39] <cris> i need help with wine plz
[01:39] <jlgaddis> dabide: Heh, I get faster than that from the Internet.
[01:39] <andres> is there some ubuntu channels in spanish ?
[01:39] <yomm> Lunar mb hes on lan
[01:39] <billy> I'd like to install a Real Player plugin to Firefox, but I've noticed on UbuntuForums that lots of folks are having difficulty.  Is there an "easy way" to get it going, or maybe someone knows of an easy to follow howto?
[01:40] <lufis> cris: what's the issue?
[01:40] <erUSUL> !es > andres
[01:40] <dabide> Lunar_Lamp: forgot to mention that i'm connected to the server via wlan locally
[01:40] <andres> thanks
[01:40] <sureshot> hello all
[01:40] <lufis> hi sureshot
[01:40] <erUSUL> andres: sin problema ;)
[01:40] <sureshot> just came back to ubuntu
[01:41] <tom_> hey everyone, i'm trying to install a belkin wireless pci card, taht I'm pretty sure works out of the box with ubuntu. could any one help?
[01:42] <sureshot> does anyone know if vmplayer will run the vms operating system for vax
[01:43] <meik_> hallo
[01:43] <lufis> hi meik_
[01:43] <mike-db> I'm thinking about installing ubuntu now do I need windows xp duel booted in order to run Wine?
[01:44] <dabide> a more detailed explanation of my problem: the server is connected trough ethernet with the router, and i'm connected to the router via wlan (the connectivity is very good), but when i send/fetch files to/from the server (via samba/windows network neighborhood, via ssh file transfer, or via ftp) i only get rather slow speeds, about 800kb/s with fpt and about 1000kb/s with ssh file transfer, any clues?
[01:44] <lufis> mike-db: wine runs independent of windows, though it can use some of windows' libraries iirc
[01:44] <Xenguy> mike-db: no
[01:44] <nrdb_> mike-db: wine doesn't need a windows install to work
[01:44] <mike-db> So I don't need windows? Perfect! I only want to play WoW anyway.
[01:45] <erUSUL> sureshot: vmware is not an emulator afaics
[01:45] <joeyk_> dabide, your never gonna have exremly fast speeds using wlan
[01:45] <kriel> erUSUL: followed the troubleshooting on the website you gave me. still no sound, even though everything in the software says i should.
[01:45] <nrdb_> mike-db: I don't know about WoW, but I run other programs, with no windows anywhere.
[01:45] <sureshot> well it runs other ops just thought i would ask guess i am stuck with simh
[01:45] <K3nt> hey guys, i installed emerald and beryl and now i dont have any frames on my windows
[01:46] <sureshot> thank erusul
[01:46] <dabide> joeyk_: but it should definetly be faster than 800kb/s, shouldn't it?
[01:46] <yomm> I have set up my fstab to include 3 samba shares on my LAN ,when I do "sudo mount -a" they mount fine , but they won't mount after a reboot , any hints ?
[01:46] <lufis> K3nt: run "metacity" in the meantime
[01:46] <K3nt> ok
[01:46] <nrdb_> I am having a small problem with OpenOffice, when I mis-spell a word it isn't putting the red line under it, I think I have it enabled properly, can some help please ?
[01:46] <K3nt> alright im back with windows
[01:46] <lufis> K3nt: ;)
[01:46] <jlgaddis> yomm: Sounds like you missed an option in /etc/fstab.
[01:46] <K3nt> with the frames for windows in ubuntu i mean
[01:46] <breadstic> hi guys, i was wondering if any of you could recommend something to download  and install to make ubuntu look all pretty like the latest suse with a 3d desktop environment?
[01:46] <K3nt> but does anybody know how to use the themese from emeral? and make them work?
[01:47] <yomm> jlgaddis : you want to take a look at it ?
[01:47] <maarten> hmmmm.... I messed something up. I was able to browse to my windows box with Konqurer, but now it says that the The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. I tried stopping/starting the avahi-daemon, but it fails to stop. Any ideas?
[01:47] <joeyk_> depends on your wlan setup, if your connected a/b/g and signal strength..
[01:47] <K3nt> breadstic: i would say beryl and emerald if i could get them to work
[01:48] <breadstic> cool, ok, i'll have a look at some screenshots, thnx
[01:48] <AaronMT> anyone get wireless working on an inspiron 1501
[01:48] <n-iCe> how can i move a icon to my desktop ?
[01:48] <n-iCe> if is in the panel
[01:48] <lufis-brbfudz> n-iCe: drag it?
[01:49] <mike-db> So wine works just as fine with kubuntu?
[01:49] <n-iCe> doesn't work
[01:49] <n-iCe> xubuntu
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: wine works with Ubuntu
[01:49] <n-iCe> wine ?
[01:49] <n-iCe> what's that?
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> oh, i thought you were talking to mike-db about wine
[01:50] <pepo> #/join espiral
[01:50] <calvinosaurus> n-iCe: wine runs programs designed to run in windows
[01:50] <calvinosaurus> err allows you to run
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: you're tryin to add an icon to your desktop.. where's the icon at, in your menu?
[01:50] <higiraven> hi
[01:51] <higiraven> I am going to buy a laptop. What is the best graphics card for linux: nvidia or intel?
[01:51] <n-iCe> Yeah IndyGunFreak
[01:51] <billy> higiraven, i have an intel and everything works fine.
[01:52] <higiraven> 3d rendering and so works out of the box, right?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: hang on a sec, i know its different.. pretty sure its not just drag and drop.
[01:52] <billy> higiraven, alta needed a little tweaking, though.  real simple though.
[01:52] <yharrow> does anyone know how I can order a very large number of cds for my team?
[01:52] <higiraven> uhm ok thanks
[01:52] <sureshot> hey all i forgot to add the dos petition in my install how do i mount it and have it mount automaticly each time i boot
[01:52] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  isn't , thank you.
[01:52] <calvinosaurus> higraven: i just picked up a gazelle series laptop from system 76
[01:52] <mytruehero> I don't seem to be able to play DVDs with Ubuntu. I followed the steps in the starter guide, but they didn't work for me. Would anyone mind helping me figure this out?
[01:52] <billy> higiraven, sorry.  so far no Beryl.
[01:52] <calvinosaurus> got it a few days ago
[01:53] <rbil> K3nt: do u have colour depth in xorg.conf set to 24?
[01:53] <higiraven> billy I think Beryl works fine
[01:53] <omar> alguien habla espaol???????
[01:53] <n-iCe> omar,  yo
[01:53] <higiraven> si, ve a #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <billy> higiraven, maybe for you, but not for me.  Probly b/c I suck though.  I'm a total newb.
[01:53] <omar> orale gracias
[01:53] <K3nt> rbil: im not sure
[01:53] <erUSUL> !es | omar
[01:53] <omar> necesito ayuda
[01:53] <ubotu> omar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:53] <higiraven> uhm ok
[01:54] <erUSUL> omar: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:54] <omar> weno mmmm como instalo el amsn?
[01:54] <rbil> K3nt: check it and if it's not, change it to 24
[01:54] <higiraven> sudo apt-get install amsn
[01:54] <K3nt> rbil: how can i check it?
[01:54] <jin> !dvd
[01:54] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:54] <rbil> K3nt: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:54] <n-iCe> omar,  te recomiendo el kopete
[01:54] <n-iCe> me gusta ms
[01:55] <omar> ok cual es el comando completo
[01:55] <jin> !comix
[01:55] <ubotu> comix: GTK Comic Book Viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 146 kB, installed size 956 kB
[01:55] <higiraven> !kopete
[01:55] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[01:55] <n-iCe> omar,  prueba sumo apt-get install kopete
[01:55] <K3nt> rbil: ok i see it
[01:55] <maarten> hmmmm.... I messed something up. I was able to browse to my windows box with Konqurer, but now it says that the The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. I tried stopping/starting the avahi-daemon, but it fails to stop. Any ideas?
[01:55] <ubuntu> Hi again... I have a bit of a memory problem here.. What is the command that lets me configure my screens and drivers, mouse and keyboard?
[01:55] <omar> ok grax y despues d eso q hago?
[01:55] <n-iCe> omar,  ya se instala y lo jalas
[01:55] <omar> orale gracias
[01:55] <K3nt> rbil: doesnt say anything about color depth
[01:56] <sureshot> how do i mount a dos petition and have it mount automaticly each time i boot
[01:56] <rbil> K3nt: DefaultDepth ?
[01:56] <billy> ubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ??
[01:56] <erUSUL> omar: n-iCe higiraven creo que deberais moveros a #ubuntu-es este canal es ingls
[01:56] <higiraven> I know
[01:56] <n-iCe> me too
[01:56] <higiraven> im speaking english
[01:56] <erUSUL> !ntfs > sureshot
[01:56] <n-iCe> sorry
[01:56] <calvinosaurus> yo no habla espanol.
[01:57] <billy> ubuntu, ACTUALLY sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:57] <omar> no se pudo!!!!!!
[01:57] <higiraven> omar #ubuntu-es
[01:57] <K3nt> rbil: can we pm? its like a storm in here
[01:57] <sureshot> thanks erUSUL i will read that
[01:57] <omar> ok ok grax
[01:57] <ubuntu> Hm...
[01:57] <Aozaki> Question about the language support: I have some Japanese music files, in the file browser I can read it just fine but when I load the files in to xmms or any other music program, it displays as boxes. Anyone know why?
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: what app you trying to add to your desktop.
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> i can't remember for the life of me how to do it.
[01:57] <rbil> K3nt: pm me if u like
[01:57] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  swiftfox
[01:57] <calvinosaurus> lol
[01:57] <jin> !rss
[01:57] <techie> good evening. I downloaded some files from "amule" and I see them but do not know how to access them can anybody help?
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <jin> !rssfeeds
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rssfeeds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <techie> these files are on pdf
[01:58] <jin> what to use to read rss feeds?
[01:58] <n2ob> anyone know a good calendar app?
[01:58] <higiraven> you can use firefox..
[01:58] <n-iCe> or add it to the panel IndyGunFreak  ?
[01:58] <Urbanmage> jin: firefox or thunderbird?
[01:58] <jin> erm, isn't firefox just a browser?
[01:58] <Xenguy> jin: I use Firefox's 'sage' extension.
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: doesn't seem there's a short way to do either one
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> jin: yes..
[01:58] <Lr5> !dual monitor
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <higiraven> erm you can use firefox to reed rss feeds
[01:58] <Lr5> aww
[01:59] <techie> higiraven yes I know but the issue is the same, how do I read them?
[01:59] <AaronMT> domi arigato mr uboto
[01:59] <tj239> get an extension to read rss in firefox
[01:59] <higiraven> you dont need an extension
[01:59] <metalhedd> my laptops sound card requires that I pass 'model=hp' to the kernel module.. how can I do this in ubuntu?
[01:59] <higiraven> firefox reads rss natively
[01:59] <n-iCe> then ? IndyGunFreak  no idea?
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: you might try asking in #xubuntu  I know I done it, i just can't remember exactly how.
[02:00] <calvinosaurus> thanks, Lr5
[02:00] <lufis-brbfudz> metalhedd: in grub, press esc to enter its menu. select the default, then press "e" to edit. edit the longest line and add "model=hp"
[02:00] <techie> can anybody help. I see downloaded files from amule but do not know where they are or how to access them/read them. can anybody help?
[02:00] <gbv22> guys, i have a question regarding booting Ubuntu off USB. If u have a 2Gb usb flash drive, can I boot ubuntu off the USB and avail of all features? if so. can someone point me to where I can find instructions to do this? thanks
[02:00] <Lr5> calvinosaurus: what, where?
[02:01] <jin> wow
[02:01] <jin> firefox is awsome!
[02:01] <lufis-brbfudz> metalhedd: er, maybe that would work
[02:01] <lufis-brbfudz> i dunno. try it
[02:01] <techie> how does firefox compare to amule?
[02:01] <higiraven> firefox is a web browser and amule is a p2p client
[02:01] <calvinosaurus> Lr5: oh, i thought you told the bot to help me
[02:01] <breadstic> i thought amule was a p2p prog
[02:01] <metalhedd> lufis-brbfudz: on other distros there was a config file i had to adit for alsa.  i've never had to touch grub for it before.
[02:01] <gbv22> guys, i have a question regarding booting Ubuntu off USB. If u have a 2Gb usb flash drive, can I boot ubuntu off the USB and avail of all features? if so. can someone point me to where I can find instructions to do this? thanks
[02:02] <lufis-brbfudz> metalhedd: ah, okay then., nevermind my advice
[02:02] <techie> duhs,,, i use firefox all the time!
[02:02] <calvinosaurus> Lr5: are you trying to get a second monitor working too?
[02:02] <techie> yes you are right. is great
[02:02] <higiraven> !usb
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <peija-kas> ubuntu ops: <thedcm> I'm going to come back later and flood the ubuntu channels with about 10 people
[02:02] <peija-kas> hes at it again
[02:02] <Lr5> calvinosaurus: yah, with an old thinkpad t21
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for ways to limit bandwidth usage on dialup connections, and need tips.  Caching of files, DNS info, etc, whatever?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: here it is..... right click your desktop, Name---- Firefox... where it says, Command.. Firefox.  then choose an icon for it.
[02:02] <K3nt> rbil: i changed it to 24 from 16
[02:02] <K3nt> didnt do anything
[02:02] <jin> the problem with firefox is, It only display the titles and not the description..
[02:02] <jin> !rssreader
[02:02] <billy> about how long does it take ShipIt to mail out Ubuntu CD's?
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rssreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <rbil> K3nt: and u restarted gdm?
[02:02] <peija-kas> ubuntu ops: <thedcm> I already have them organized <thedcm> ;)
[02:03] <K3nt> gdm?
[02:03] <peija-kas> do something about that guy :/
[02:03] <rbil> gui desktop
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> peija-kas: #ubuntu-ops please
[02:03] <Bantroth> schlansker
[02:03] <K3nt> nope is that ctrl-baclspace
 pfred1: ubuntu supports multiculturalism
[02:03] <rbil> K3nt: yes, that's one way
[02:03] <K3nt> lol that doesnt do anything
[02:03] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso: afaik in ubuntu bind is instaled by default as dns caching server you can use pdnsd too
[02:03] <K3nt> what if i just restarted ubuntu
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL: thanks
[02:04] <Lr5> !Xinerama
[02:04] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: did that work?
[02:04] <Lr5> :o
[02:04] <rbil> K3nt: ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:04] <Lr5> !DualHead
[02:04] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:04] <calvinosaurus> Lr5: I was searching google earlier and I found that what needs to be done is to edit the xorg-config file. but I was having trouble finding a program that could do that automatically
[02:04] <K3nt> rbil: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts all of ubuntu
[02:04] <K3nt> ?
[02:04] <rbil> K3nt: no just restarts x server
[02:05] <^Albe^> hi to all, sry the fast question: is there a chance to see vlc "always on top"? :(
[02:05] <peija-kas> k3nt yep it restarts X
[02:05] <Urbanmage> jin: how are you opening the rss link?  there should be an icon at the end of the address bar that you can click on to add the feed, after that you can follow the rss links to the article
[02:05] <lufis-brbfudz> ^Albe^: should be an option to do that when clicking on the window border's button
[02:05] <lufis-brbfudz> on the left side
[02:05] <K3nt> rbil: ok that worked
[02:05] <K3nt> i think
[02:05] <billy> ^Albe^, right click on the window title panel, click "on top"
[02:05] <tj239> ctrl alt backspace doesn't go check through the bios
[02:05] <omegabeta> Question : where do I get Qt 3.3 and < 4.0 header libraries?
[02:06] <HymnToLife[] > omegabeta, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[02:06] <omegabeta> HymnToLife[] : cheers
[02:06] <lufis-brbfudz> omegabeta: search synaptic for "qt" or "libqt"
[02:06] <tj239> pinky promise
[02:07] <^Albe^> thx not so bad that one :) , is there a chance to set the always on top option (for a smaller window)?
[02:07] <sureshot> hey all just a thought... it is good to be back with a help channel that really helpful the other one i was on was not friendly
[02:07] <billy> ^Albe^, should work the same way.
[02:07] <billy> ^Albe^, just resize the window manually.
[02:07] <Tairom> anyone how the time (or inclination) to go into a private chat to help a new user on trying to get things running?
[02:08] <billy> Tairom, what kind of probs you having?
[02:08] <Tairom> lol where to start. 1) ati x1650 (known issue) 2) VPC07
[02:08] <omegabeta> crap, JUST as my bandwith cap is back.. =/ oh well, got all the themes.. just need the libary headers.. thanks guys
[02:08] <billy> Tairom, I wish I could help, but I have no experience with those.
[02:09] <^Albe^> the windows seems always "behind"
[02:09] <Tairom> np thanks for the willingness anyway
[02:09] <lufis-brbfudz> omegabeta: bandwidth cap? ick. is it your isp's doing?
[02:09] <sureshot> omegabeta do you have huges net yet
[02:09] <sureshot> omegabeta do you have huges net yet not yet but now
[02:09] <techie> anybody here that has experience with showing files on the desktop? I think a folder must be made visible so that I can see the downloaded files. Can anybody help?
[02:09] <billy> ^Albe^, when you right-click on the window's border, is "on top" checked?
[02:09] <yipe> I can't log into edgy, it says the system is going to shut down in one minute
[02:10] <omegabeta> lufis-brbfudz: ye, per month I get 60 gig, 20 on peek and 40 of peek
[02:10] <omegabeta> offpeek being between 2am and 12pm
[02:10] <omegabeta> Australia sp
[02:10] <yipe> except that it never does shutdown, it just sits there
[02:10] <omegabeta> isp are crap
[02:10] <techie> anybody knows which command to use for this?
[02:10] <lufis-brbfudz> omegabeta: ah... i've had trouble with some isps being absurdly greedy with bandwidth. they sell you unlimited access and then act all surprised when you actually use it! pssh
[02:10] <^Albe^> great!
[02:10] <Tairom> does anyone have some experence with virtual pc 07?
[02:10] <^Albe^> sry the newbie question :P
[02:11] <sureshot> i have huges net like a 160 meg at a time then wait an hure for about another 15 minutes
[02:11] <^Albe^> THX!!
[02:11] <omegabeta> lufis-brbfudz: Yep, and then decide that you have breached their "Fair use policy"
[02:11] <maarten> hmmm... I can access my linux machine from windows, I can access my windows machine from other windows machines, but I cannot mount smb shares on my linux box. Says access denied, and the shares are all public. I created userid's on windows but still no go.
[02:11] <nykito> Hi to all
[02:11] <yipe> anyone have a clue how I can trick edgy into not thinking it's going to shutdown anymore?
[02:11] <billy> ^Albe^, it's no problem.  I myself have newb-questions flowing from all ends. ;)
[02:11] <^Albe^> :) ;) thx
[02:11] <nykito> I'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[02:11] <sureshot> hate that fap it hits at the wrong time... that is why i cant dl elf
[02:11] <billy> nykito, you'll need a GOOD reason to do that.
[02:11] <lufis-brbfudz> billy: get a towel
[02:11] <nykito> but I've the error /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[02:12] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a easy way to delete files when they're older than X days?
[02:12] <nykito> warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[02:12] <K3nto> could somebeody help me get my wireless working again? i uninstalled some nvidia things a short while ago, and after reboot, my wireless crapped out :(
[02:12] <billy> lufis-brbfudz: I wear a diaper.
[02:12] <lufis-brbfudz> billy: good idea ;)
[02:12] <nykito> why billy?
[02:12] <lufis-brbfudz> rofdl
[02:12] <lufis-brbfudz> rofl*
[02:12] <billy> nykito, i'm looking for the link.  just a sec.
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> nykito: sometimes its easier to do a clean install.
[02:12] <sureshot> well off to configure simh and load the 14 disks of open vms see ya all later
[02:12] <elkbuntu> omegabeta, australian english is permitted in #ubuntu-au ;)
[02:12] <jamiehd> Hi
[02:13] <nykito> you mean install edgy directly?
[02:13] <erUSUL> K3nto: maybe it is an atheros card and you uninstaled restricted modules ??
[02:13] <omegabeta> elkbuntu: :P)
[02:13] <jamiehd> Anyone know how I can set up ftp, so I can upload to my server
[02:13] <nykito> IndyGunFreak: ?
[02:13] <jamiehd> I have installed the server version of ubuntu
[02:13] <K3nto> i did uninstall things from restricted modules. ill check
[02:13] <AaronMT> .clear
[02:13] <cris> have someone tried the DirectFB window manager?
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> nykito: i've never had luck upgrading Linux OSs(or M$ OS's for that matter).. always backup and do a clean install if you ask me.
[02:14] <omegabeta> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> upgrades always seem to run slow
[02:14] <omegabeta> Odd, they are both installed
[02:14] <nykito> First time I've upgraded from dapper to edgy there were no problems
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> nykito: well when why are you trying to upgrade again?
[02:15] <billy> nykito, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286209&highlight=thinking+of+upgrading
[02:15] <Tairom> ok how about this, in a virtual enviro, would 6.06 or 6.10 be better. have read some posts that 6.10 and vpc arent playing nice
[02:15] <nykito> thank you billy
[02:16] <billy> nykito, not telling you not to.  but it's worth considering.  if u got everything working with Dapper, stick with it.
[02:16] <josh_> hey!
[02:16] <josh_> !flash
[02:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> billy:  Thats good advice.., I personally hate upgrading OS's,
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> never works
[02:17] <billy> IndyGunFreak, thanks.  I hate seeing someone making things harder on themselves.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> billy:  isn't that the truth
[02:18] <wesleypan> is there anyone that could help me with ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: i have upgraded my ubuntu since warty beta all the way to edgy (and will do to feisty) without problems and without reinstalling
[02:18] <nykito> but, anyway, what do you think about the error?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: i'm not saying its impossible, its just never went right with me
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> either got some wierd error, or it was slow, etc.
[02:19] <billy> erUSUL, then that probably makes you the minority.
[02:19] <wesleypan> why is it that i get a (you don't have permission)box..im the admin!
[02:19] <K3nt> hey guys i got a problem
[02:20] <rbil> billy, i'm part of the minority also :-), but a 7 hour upgrade isn't alot of fun
[02:20] <HoffmannP> hy folks, can anyone tell me what happend about wireless lan in edgy?
[02:20] <K3nt> i installed two nvidia things thinking they would helomy wireless card, but i got a blue screen on startup
[02:20] <billy> rbil, word.  ain't fun at all.  but why upgrade when there's no reason and Dapper will be supported for 2.5 more years?
[02:20] <K3nt> now i have no gui
[02:20] <jamiehd>  I found it very east
[02:20] <jamiehd> *easy to upgrage
[02:21] <rbil> billy, not suggesting anyone upgrade, just that it "worked for me" :-)
[02:21] <K3nt> something
[02:21] <billy> even though I myself jumped into feisty first and then backtracked to Feisty.
[02:21] <erUSUL> billy: maybe but the beauty of linux and specially debian is that you don't have to reinstall
[02:21] <K3nt> something in restricted-linux-modules
[02:21] <Dr_willis> unless you REALLY mess things up. :)
[02:21] <erUSUL> billy: as often as with other os's
[02:21] <mptech> what's the recommended method for installing a newer kernel on edgy?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[02:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:21] <thepact> thepact
[02:21] <billy> erUSUL, that's true.  i meant to say, I started with FEisty and backtracked to Edgy.
[02:21] <thepact> What is the Debian equilavent of the ll command?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> ll ?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> what ll command?
[02:22] <thepact> Yea, show files and their permissions
[02:22] <HoffmannP> was one of the answeres for me?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> you mean ls
[02:22] <nykito> erUSUL: what do you think about the error I got?
[02:22] <maarten> any reason why connecting to a windows share would result in "access denied" (other PC is Vista), while I can access the Vista computer perfectly from my Windows Laptop, and sharing is completely open?
[02:22] <thepact> Is there an equivalent command in Ubuntu?
[02:22] <K3nt> erUSUL: i installed a couple packes; the ones you said and my gui is gone. llil help :D
[02:22] <thepact> ls doesn't show perms
[02:22] <Dr_willis> often ll = an alias for 'ls -l'
[02:22] <miguel> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[02:22] <thepact> ah
[02:22] <thepact> thnx
[02:22] <HoffmannP> ls -la ist the ll command
[02:22] <Dr_willis> thepact,  time to read the ls manual. :) and bash 101
[02:22] <mptech> Dr_willis, I'd rather not have to compile myself
[02:22] <miguel> hi
[02:22] <mptech> is it safe to borrow the kernel package from feisty?
[02:23] <thepact> Yea, I'll get right on that
[02:23] <billy> !hi | miguel
[02:23] <ubotu> miguel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:23] <Urbanmage> mptech: I've had success with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <HoffmannP> maarten: why do you have vista at all? *sorry*
[02:23] <thepact> I am used to RH, where ll is a valid command
[02:23] <thepact> But thanks
[02:23] <Dr_willis> mptech,  the normal kernel updates are in  the repositories.. i dont think you can just get the fiesty kernel packages and use them
[02:23] <miguel> i speak spanish
[02:23] <crdlb> thepact, you can alias it yourself
[02:23] <maarten> HoffmannP: That wasn't the question ;)
[02:23] <miguel> yo hablo espaol
[02:23] <n-iCe> !es miguel
[02:23] <Dr_willis> !es
[02:23] <billy> i played around with a Vista computer at the store.  my PC with Ubuntu is faster.
[02:23] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[02:23] <_-zar_-> hy all I just installed ubuntu yesterday, Ive been using linux for 10 years and everything worked out of the box on my acer laptop so im still in shock
[02:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:23] <Dr_willis> _-zar_-,  even suspend?
[02:23] <_-zar_-> yup
[02:23] <mptech> Dr_willis, according to packages.ubuntu.org, only 2.6.17 is available in edgy
[02:23] <Dr_willis> _-zar_-,  :) amazing
[02:24] <Dr_willis> mptech,  sounds about right...
[02:24] <mptech> *packages.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <mptech> Dr_willis, I need 2.6.18 for my motherboard
[02:24] <mptech> or else networking won't work
[02:24] <_-zar_-> busy install gcc to compile some extra stuff
[02:24] <miguel> i speak spanish
[02:24] <miguel> yo hablo em espaol
[02:24] <Urbanmage> scratch that, I didn't see the kernel stuff :P
[02:24] <metalhedd> how can I pass an option to one of the alsa modules?
[02:24] <crdlb> It's miguel de icaza!
[02:24] <Dr_willis> mptech,  -  use the soruce then - or try feisty.
[02:24] <mptech> ...
[02:25] <billy> mptech, what motherboard do you have?
[02:25] <K3nt> ok i think i know what to do: i need to uninstall those packages from the terminal
[02:25] <alexcamilo> does anyone know how to get the installer in ubuntu 6.10 ppc to not start in 1024x768 resolution? the fix i have now is switching to tty2 and editing the xorg.conf file and then resetting X. i could probubly do the same when it's finally installed but the ubuntu startup screen is still messed up. is there a way to fix that?
[02:25] <_-zar_-> the kubuntu did not work very well though
[02:25] <mptech> billy, asus p5b deluxe
[02:25] <erUSUL> K3nt: what?? have you instaled the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com (the *.run file) ??
[02:25] <billy> mptech, and Edgy won't install?
[02:25] <mptech> billy, it installs
[02:25] <mptech> but no networking support
[02:25] <billy> mptech, oh sorry to distract.
[02:25] <miguel> alguien habla espaol???????????????
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> !es | miguel
[02:25] <ubotu> miguel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:25] <billy> !es | miguel
[02:25] <K3nt> erUSUL: yes i had everything perfect except my wireless
[02:26] <K3nt> then i installed a couple restricted packages
[02:26] <K3nt> and poof, no gui
[02:26] <miguel> tank
[02:26] <_-zar_-> I wish i had a nvida driver, Im stuck with a Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller
[02:26] <eck> _-zar_-: that's better for you
[02:26] <eck> much better linux drivers
[02:27] <_-zar_-> well 3d accell worked out of the box
[02:27] <_-zar_-> Ya but it uses software pixel shaders instead of hardware ones :(
[02:27] <erUSUL> K3nt: that's the problem :( the restricted-modules package has the atheros driver *and the nvidia driver when you instaled it you screwed the nvidia instalation. it is an ugly hack but maybe rerunning the *,run  file fixes the thing...
[02:27] <Dr_willis> _-zar_-,  vi dosent care about pixle shaders... :)
[02:27] <eck> yeah, but it works
[02:27] <_-zar_-> lmfao
[02:28] <cameronheath> I need some help installing please.
[02:28] <_-zar_-> yea but my winshit partition to play video games does
[02:28] <K3nt> erUSUL: so i type what into the terminal?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Games are for the weak.
[02:28] <eck> cameronheath: with what exactly?
[02:28] <cameronheath> partitiioning
[02:28] <erUSUL> K3nt: if not you will have to uninstall the packages  restricted-modules package and reinstall nvidia and then install the atheros driver by hand
[02:28] <Dr_willis> ive been playing RCTW:ET lately :) its a classic
[02:28] <miguel> mueranse todos los chuchaesumare hijos de puta y vayanse a la mierda todos los gringos putos hijitos de mama
[02:28] <billy> Dr_willis, chess is the royal game.
[02:28] <n-iCe> How can i change my keyboard configurations ?
[02:28] <eck> miguel: that's not nice
[02:29] <rotarised> Hello! I've just installed ubuntu edgy eft. And when I click 'add/remove' in applications, it starts up ('starting installed and available applications'), and then disappears.
[02:29] <K3nt> erUSUL: so what do i do in the terminal?
[02:29] <erUSUL> K3nt: repeat what you did to install the nvidia driver
[02:29] <firefly2442> n-iCe: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard ?
[02:29] <K3nt> ok
[02:29] <n-iCe> firefly2442,  xubuntu
[02:29] <K3nt> pwd
[02:29] <wesleypan> why can't a create new folders in the File System
[02:29] <cameronheath> eck: with partitioning
[02:30] <firefly2442> n-iCe: dunno sorry, I've never tried Xubuntu
[02:30] <eck> cameronheath: with how to do it or what?
[02:30] <_-zar_-> Im still getting used to gnome after years of kdeing
[02:30] <billy> wesleypan, did you `sudo mkdir ....` ?
[02:30] <erUSUL> K3nt: something like 'sudo bash file.run'
[02:30] <wesleypan> billy:yeah
[02:30] <wesleypan> but i'm not sure i did it correctly
[02:30] <Pelo> !restricted
[02:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:30] <wesleypan> im trying to get the ndiswrapper installed
[02:30] <billy> wesleypan, copy/paste the exact command you're using into the forum.
[02:30] <_-zar_-> yay my gcc installed correctly
[02:31] <wesleypan> k
[02:31] <cameronheath> eck: yeah basicly, i have two options at the partition disks prompt
[02:31] <eck> cameronheath: you probably want the one where you resize partitions
[02:31] <cameronheath> eck: and they both say erase entire disk
[02:31] <eck> unless you have unpartitioned space on your hard drive
[02:31] <_-zar_->  Couldn't find package kismet
[02:32] <_-zar_-> lol
[02:32] <cameronheath> dont think so?
[02:32] <eck> isn't there a custom partition option?
[02:32] <cameronheath> eck: should i manually edit partition?
[02:32] <wesleypan> billy..it just wont work for me...the terminal i type has been different a lot
[02:32] <wesleypan> i don't know what to do
[02:32] <eck> yes, do the manual option
[02:32] <tur1> hi can any one direct me to a site that show how to upgrade breezy to dapper?
[02:32] <wesleypan> is there anyway to do it iwth the interface?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[02:32] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:33] <erUSUL> !upgrade > tur1
[02:33] <tur1> thanks
[02:33] <billy> wesleypan, try this as a test.  copy/paste `sudo mkdir /home/test`.  tell me what happens.
[02:33] <yurimxpxman> Do any of you know why there's an xscreensaver-command command in Ubuntu 6.10 but /not/ in Xubuntu 6.10?
[02:33] <eck> yurimxpxman: my guess is that the command is provided by gnome-screensaver
[02:34] <eck> yurimxpxman: i think you can use dpkg -S to see which package provided a binary
[02:34] <billy> wesleypan, i don't think so.  sudo command is required.  this has been a criticism of Ubuntu: that you have to drop a command line.  But it's cool with me.
[02:34] <sureshot> how do you fine a file that you know is on you ubuntu drive but search does not find it
[02:34] <cameronheath> eck: no  i have SCSTI1(0,0,0) (sda) 3.2 gb vmware wmware virtual s
[02:34] <_`XeOn_> how do i delete a folder in command line?
[02:34] <erUSUL> _`XeOn_: rmdir
[02:34] <eck> cameronheath: is this in a virtual machine?
[02:34] <eck> _`XeOn_: rm -rf
[02:34] <wesleypan> billy it asks for my password than it gives me the open line for the directory
[02:35] <wesleypan> (im new with terminal :s)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !bash
[02:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:35] <cameronheath> eck: yeah trying to setup using vmware fusion
[02:35] <billy> wesleypan, that means it worked.
[02:35] <wesleypan> yeah
[02:35] <_`XeOn_> rm -rf (folder) right?
[02:35] <wesleypan> so than i type in what i want the folder name to be?
[02:35] <eck> cameronheath: if it is in a VM i think the whole disk really just means the whole virtual partition/filesystem
[02:35] <rotarised> Does anyone know why 'add/remove...' disappears after it appears to be starting up?
[02:35] <wesleypan> instead of tes?
[02:35] <ShakaGoldSaint> anyone can help me out with git?, i'm getting this when i try to run git clone....   : /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed
[02:35] <eck> _`XeOn_: that is correct
[02:35] <billy> wesleypan, exactly, be sure to put in the `/` as the first character for the new directory.
[02:36] <_`XeOn_> eck,  ty
[02:36] <wesleypan> ok
[02:36] <billy> wesleypan, that was pretty vague.
[02:36] <cameronheath> eck:  ehat exactley does that mean
[02:36] <billy> wesleypan, i meant ...
[02:36] <ClarKent> Anyone have a mutt tutorial site? I set up fetchmail, but they're not working together
[02:36] <cameronheath> eck: did vm already partition
[02:36] <billy> wesleypan, be sure your command is in the form `sudo mkdir /this/is/an/example`.
[02:36] <wesleypan> will do billy
[02:36] <eck> cameronheath: well, my understanding is that if you install vmware you set aside some amount of space, and then in the virtual machine the disk really refers to that space, not your actual hdd
[02:37] <brandon_> I am trying to compile the latest ALSA drivers and I have a question
[02:37] <brandon_> can anyone help me?
[02:37] <wesleypan> what should i put it into?...filesystem home what?
[02:37] <sureshot> how would i fine ka655x.bin on my ubuntu drive
[02:37] <Dr_willis> eck,  yep. virtual drives
[02:37] <sanityx> Anybody know a good app for converting and burning videos to DVD?
[02:37] <eck> ClarKent: is fetchmail working?
[02:37] <billy> wesleypan, what are you making the new directory for?
[02:37] <cameronheath> eck: so if i choose the wm virtual i wont lose anything on my hd in partitioning
[02:37] <wesleypan> im making it for ndiswrapper
[02:37] <ClarKent> eck: yeah
[02:38] <salty> sureshot: 'sudo whereis ka655x.bin'
[02:38] <wesleypan> the program i guess so that i can use my linksys drivers or at least have it work
[02:38] <Pelo> sureshot, menu > places > search,  set system files as the location and add the show hidden files and folder option
[02:38] <eck> cameronheath: yes, i believe so. it should be apparent becasue your "hard drive" will be much smaller than the physical hdd
[02:38] <sureshot> thanks all salty and pelo
[02:38] <eck> ClarKent: well it has been a while since i used mutt, but i think you just have to set your folder or mbox or whatever to the path of where fetchmail is putting your stuff
[02:38] <salty> yw
[02:38] <billy> wesleypan, i'm not sure where to put that program.  Maybe Dr_willis can help you.
[02:38] <_`XeOn_> im trying to convert an .rpm and i get this output : Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package winex: postinst postrm prerm Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[02:38] <billfur> Is there a filesystem that is cross platform between windows and ubuntu that isn't going to require me to use multiple partitions for very large harddisks?
[02:38] <eck> ClarKent: you shoudl be able to read the mail directly (e.g. with less) to verify that fetchmail is actually getting things
[02:38] <_`XeOn_> what to do?
[02:38] <wesleypan> is the dr in tha house?
[02:39] <wesleypan> Dr. Willis?
[02:39] <ClarKent> eck: thanks, i'll check that out
[02:39] <wesleypan> argh.
[02:39] <brandon_> I'm trying to upgrade ALSA and I am using this in terminal
[02:39] <brandon_> sudo ./configuresudo ./configure  --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=<stac92xx> --with-oss=yes
[02:39] <billy> wesleypan, did you see that message.  oh guess so.
[02:39] <brandon_> stac92xx is unknown it says
[02:39] <rbil> _`XeOn_: add the --scripts parameter
[02:39] <_-zar_-> brb compiling kismet
[02:39] <brandon_> what can I use instead?
[02:39] <wesleypan> i have to use wirelless.
[02:39] <Dr_willis> if thats a firmware file. you could use locate or find to search the windows drives.. or redownload the drivers to perhaps find the file
[02:40] <brandon_> its ALSA
[02:40] <billy> wesleypan, post your questions to www.ubuntuforums.org.  Be as specific with as many details as you can.
[02:40] <josh_> for the sources.list, what is the country code for USA, US?
[02:40] <salty> i have to use wireless too
[02:40] <K3nt> erUSUL: i reinstalled the nvidia driver but i didnt get my gui back. i need to uninstall those packages
[02:40] <wesleypan> salty
[02:40] <wesleypan> is yours linksys?
[02:40] <_`XeOn_> rbil, just like this? --> alien --scripts winex-x.x.x.rpm
[02:40] <brandon_> k3nt, have you tried envy?
[02:40] <cameronheath> eck: thats what i figured,  it only says 3.2 gb when i have 80
[02:40] <BalsamicChicken> test
[02:41] <Dr_willis> winex? egads - where did that come from?
[02:41] <K3nt> envy?
[02:41] <rbil> _`XeOn_: sure
[02:41] <brandon_> google: Ubuntu Envy
[02:41] <salty> no..ya need to use ndswrapper for them don't ya? i have atheros chip and the ipw3945
[02:41] <_`XeOn_> kk
[02:41] <K3nt> brandon: no
[02:41] <brandon_> can someone tell me what is wrong with this line?
[02:41] <brandon_> try it
[02:41] <wesleypan> last question billy:....if i used something like WINE or something..would i be able to install the drivers for wireless as exe?
[02:41] <brandon_> it installs drivers
[02:41] <K3nt> but i want to fix edgy
[02:41] <brandon_> worked for my nvidia
[02:41] <brandon_> sudo ./configuresudo ./configure  --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=<stac92xx> --with-oss=yes
[02:41] <brandon_> what is wrong with that?
[02:41] <brandon_> command
[02:42] <eck> brandon_: well, first of all, the syntax is all wrong
[02:42] <eck> and you don't need to use sudo
[02:42] <brandon_> ok
[02:42] <rbil> _`XeOn_: btw, why are you using a RPM as opposed to getting the package from the repos?
[02:42] <eck> run it just starting from ./configure
[02:42] <billy> wesleypan, i'm not sure.  i'm totally inexperienced with wireless.  from what I understand ubuntu is the best for wireless.  psot to ubuntuforums.org.
[02:42] <brandon_> ok, so I can leave the other stuff off?
[02:42] <brandon_> because that is what is giving me fits
[02:42] <wesleypan> alright
[02:42] <brandon_> yes k3nt
[02:42] <salty> wesleypan: i have a linksys that i don't use and it requires the rt8180 driver
[02:42] <eck> i think the stuff the the left of the configure is wrong
[02:42] <brandon_> it fixes edgy
[02:43] <KeeNaF86> hi guys
[02:43] <wesleypan> salty
[02:43] <_`XeOn_> rbil, cuz theres no winex
[02:43] <KeeNaF86> anybody can read my text?
[02:43] <wesleypan> would you be able to help me out than?
[02:43] <brandon_> yes
[02:43] <tide33> yes
[02:43] <K3nt> i know what i need to do to fix edgy
[02:43] <K3nt> and that is remove packages
[02:43] <cameronheath> eck: oonce i have selected the drive, should i modify anything
[02:43] <_`XeOn_> im trying to get call of duty working
[02:43] <brandon_> I'm just saying...envy will remove the bad ones and install the right ones
[02:43] <salty> no... i had problems with it too...so i bought another
[02:43] <eck> cameronheath: you don't need to, just use the defaults
[02:43] <wesleypan> ick.
[02:44] <KeeNaF86> guys .. im new here .. :)
[02:44] <wesleypan> any recommendations on an easy wireless reciever for linux salty?>
[02:44] <KeeNaF86> i have problem with my beryl which is doesnt have title bar
[02:44] <salty> i bought the netgear WG511T and it works great
[02:45] <wesleypan> awesome salty.
[02:45] <ubm> IndyGunFreak are you near the keyboard?
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah, why?
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:46] <salty> you can use madwifi drivers... it has atheros chipset
[02:46] <wesleypan> k
[02:46] <cameronheath> eck: no root file system is defined
[02:46] <ubm> IndyGunFreak where is our wine friend did he every manage to install it?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: you'll have to enlighten me.. i can't remember what you're talking about.
[02:46] <wesleypan> is there a program that is graphical that would install without myself typing in the terminal by anychance?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> i remember the conversation.
[02:46] <billy> Peace and Love to all humanity.  Billy must eat food for nourishment.  yum yum...
[02:46] <billy> exit
[02:46] <wesleypan> like a program that would do that for you.
[02:46] <billy> oops. not in a terminal huh?
[02:47] <erUSUL> K3nt: go ahead... i think you will need to reinstall the nvidia driver again after removing the package
[02:47] <salty> synaptic if ya have a debian package
[02:47] <ubm> IndyGunFreak oh n/m some guy that was in here the other day for hours trying to get wine running on edgy eft latest build... you were helping him, it was just funny.
[02:47] <salty> ubuntu comes with madwifi drivers
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: sorry, been knocked up on some drugs for my ankle for a couple days, didn't recall it.. but now that you mention it, it does seem to be coming back to me...
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> was coming back like every two seconds, saying something didn't work, and we knew he wasn't trying it.
[02:48] <rbil> KeeNaF86: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1631
[02:48] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah that was him
[02:48] <chasetoys> hey folks
[02:48] <chasetoys> can anyone tell me how to install eclipse
[02:48] <chasetoys> on ubuntu... i'm running into lots of problems
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: see, even with vicodin in me, i'm lucid..lol
[02:49] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, I just installed a new video card (Nvidia 5500) and Ubuntu won't run.  Says something about the display not working and to see http://wiki.x.org
[02:49] <|Jason8|> Doesn't help me at all :/
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia
[02:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <wesleypan> beryl = worth the time?
[02:49] <mptech> wesleypan, it's nice
[02:49] <ubm> IndyGunFreak haha yeah vicodin is wonderful isn't it!
[02:49] <|Jason8|> Thanks :)
[02:49] <crdlb> wesleypan, depends on how much time it takes
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> wesleypan: i think everyone should install beryl once, cuz it is cool, but once its novelty wears off, and you start to notice the drag on your system, you'll likely remove it.
[02:50] <salty> 'sudo apt-get install eclipse'
[02:50] <_`XeOn_> ok now i have a .deb package whats the command to install?
[02:50] <wesleypan> crdlb is it relativly easy to install?...i think iwill install beryl now..i've seen videos of beryl
[02:50] <crdlb> wesleypan, depends on your video card
[02:50] <ubm> | jason8| its not ubuntu its Nvidia ;) and yes it will support the card.
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> wesleypan: you're vido card is the big key
[02:50] <crdlb> wesleypan, if you need help see #ubuntu-effects
[02:50] <Xenguy> _`XeOn_: dpkg -i
[02:50] <wesleypan> k
[02:50] <|Jason8|> Cool, good to hear.  my GeForce 2 was getting old :p
[02:50] <ubm> | jason8| you need to install the nvidia drivers and configure X
[02:51] <chasetoys> can i please run sudo apt-get install from multiple terminal windows?
[02:51] <_`XeOn_> Xenguy, Xenks you :)
[02:51] <chasetoys> i get an error that it cant get a lock..
[02:51] <cyphase> How hard would it be, during the boot process, to only start services necessary to the X server before starting the X server? That way, you can get a GUI as quickly as possible, and the non-essential services can finish starting up in the background. Is this possible with Upstart in Feisty?
[02:51] <chasetoys> is there a way around this
[02:51] <wesleypan> i got a dece nvidia card.
[02:51] <Xenguy> _`XeOn_: yw
[02:51] <salty> 'dpkg -i <whatever file>.deb
[02:51] <codecaine> chasetoys you might have synaptics open
[02:51] <rbil> chasetoys: no, can only run one instance of install
[02:51] <Charles-Andre> Hi guys, I've tried all the afternoon to install Ubuntu from a live CD on my laptop. It takes half an hour to load, and when I double-click the "Install" icon, after like 10 minutes, it freezes without bringing the installer GUI. I checked CD-ROM integrity and RAM, everything's OK. My laptop has 256MB RAM. What is causing the problem? Thanks.
[02:51] <ubm> | Jason8| http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> What imaging tools are available for Linux?  (equiv to Norton Ghost)
[02:52] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: partimage  ?
[02:52] <salty> !ubuntu user guide
[02:52] <eck> Charles-Andre: try the alternate installer, i'm not sure if you have enough ram
[02:52] <chasetoys> ok for those of you who have installed eclipse.... do you folks need to do this 'fakeroot' thing and tell ubuntu to use Java's JRE not gnu's.. i.e. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseWebTools
[02:52] <codecaine> gparted
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: thanks
[02:52] <Charles-Andre> eck: What's this alternate installer? From the terminal?
[02:52] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: yw (and what codecaine said ?)
[02:53] <salty> i use the alternate install to command line
[02:53] <codecaine> you can format and partion with it
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> i really hate when people put their names in brackets
[02:53] <codecaine> ubuntu actually use it for its install
[02:53] <eck> Charles-Andre: it is a text based installer, and you can get it from the regular download page
[02:53] <cameronheath> eck: no root file system is defined
[02:53] <bulmer> chasetoys: you can select which java via update-alternatives
[02:53] <Xenguy> IndyGunFreak: annoying nicks are on the rise, get used to it ;-)
[02:53] <Charles-Andre> eck: Thanks, do you mean I need to download another ISO?
[02:54] <chasetoys> bulmer: thats all i have to type?
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> Xenguy: i konw, i know.
[02:54] <bulmer> chasetoys: i believe so
[02:54] <ubm> chasetoys yes fakeroot make-jpkg jre-6-linux-i586.bin
[02:54] <Q_Continuum> eck: Let me know when you've got a minute.  The USB idea almost worked.
[02:54] <eck> Charles-Andre: i'm afraid so, i don't think the regular install cd has a text based installer on it as well
[02:54] <Pelo> dpkg is the command line installer for deb packages right ?
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: yes
[02:55] <eck> cameronheath: i am not sure how to troubleshoot vmware
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Is it possible to make a grub option that runs a script?  In particular, restoring the drive to OEM status from a partition image?
[02:55] <Charles-Andre> eck: :/ ok, thank you
[02:55] <eck> Q_Continuum: how far did you get?
[02:55] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: dunno
[02:55] <nwonknu-> secret
[02:55] <cameronheath> eck: cool, thanks for your help
[02:55] <salty> you need alternate install for text base install
[02:55] <shinobi2> in nautilus, how can i bring back the address bar?
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> eck: It booted fine. However, I couldn't put an ISO on the drive as well.
[02:55] <Artemis3> I want to burn a data dvd using udf (4.3g file) any program to do this?
[02:56] <Q_Continuum> eck: the boot.img also included how big it was, so it told the drive "You're 260MB in size, with 6MB used" - thus, no room to put the ISO.
[02:56] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: grub hates me BTW ;-)
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: lol
[02:56] <ubm> tonyyarusso you why not run it after boot i would stay away from editing the grub script to run something before boot.... not very smart.
[02:56] <eck> Q_Continuum: were you trying to put on the regular installer or the network installer?
[02:56] <Q_Continuum> eck: My thought was to partition it ahead of time (into two partitions) and put the ISO on the second one.  will dd let me write to a single partition, or is it directly to the device?
[02:56] <rbil> Xenguy, doesn't Grub like names that start with "X"?
[02:56] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: it's true - I have nothing but trouble with grub, and I long for the days of lilo :-)
[02:56] <Pelo> If I'm building a scrit to auto install all my little apps in one go after I've reinstalled my system ,  is there a command to enter my root password only once , instead of after earch of the install commands  ?
[02:56] <Pelo> earch /each
[02:57] <Q_Continuum> eck: the regular, it wanted to search for the ISO on the local drives but couldn't find it (since I didn't have it there)
[02:57] <Xenguy> rbil: heh, not this nick :-)
[02:57] <cchance> Does http://www.amazon.com/Tuner-Card-Remote-Control-PCI/dp/B000C6FVPG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8922741-4907816?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1172973314&sr=1-1 work with ubuntu
[02:57] <SilentDis> 'lo
[02:57] <Q_Continuum> eck: but there wasn't room to put it on the USB drive I'd booted off of because of the boot.img properties
[02:57] <eck> Q_Continuum: the boot.img has a netinstaller on it
[02:57] <bulmer> Pelo: you can put all your commands inside a (  )
[02:57] <ubm> cchance why dont you give us the hardware version as opposed to spamming us with links to amazon :)
[02:57] <bulmer> and do one sudo
[02:57] <Q_Continuum> eck: The options wouldn't let that happen.  It wanted the ISO.
[02:58] <Pelo> bulmer,  thanks
[02:58] <cchance> ubm, because i  know nothing about the product but whats on their
[02:58] <cameronheath> can anyone help me setting up a /root directory with vmfusion
[02:58] <Q_Continuum> eck: Want me to recreate it again, and give the same options a try?
[02:58] <cchance> ubm ASIN: B000C6FVPG
[02:58] <Q_Continuum> eck: I'm adjusting my sleep schedule tonight, so I'll be up until morning sometime - I've got time to burn :D
[02:58] <eck> Q_Continuum: ok, here is what you should do. reformat the USB drive with FAT (you can do it in windows or linux, doesn't matter), and then install grub on it again
[02:58] <Pelo> can I ask dpkg to install multiple packages or do I have to do dkpg -i for each one ?
[02:59] <ubm> cchance i understand but its still spam :)
[02:59] <SilentDis> Pelo, from what I understand, dpkg is for single-file .deb installs.  otherwise, you'd be using apt-get or aptitude and pulling them from a repo.
[02:59] <eck> then you basically want to follow these instrcutions: http://eklitzke.org/howto/
[02:59] <eck> i am not sure if they will work for the live cd
[02:59] <Q_Continuum> eck: I also have a Fedora box at my beck and call now, along with the laptop with Windows on it (that I'm trying to install to)
[02:59] <eck> so it would be best to use the network install or alternate install images
[02:59] <cchance> ubm, well do you know if it will work?
[02:59] <Pelo> SilentDis,  thanks but those aren't repos'  , no matter it's a script , copy/paste isn'T much of a problem
[03:00] <Q_Continuum> eck: I'm fine with whatever, as long as it works :P
[03:00] <iniakulohhahaha> i have already install apt-get install roundcube-webmail | but i cant login, question is : how i can create user login ?
[03:00] <covert|afk> quick question: if have an AMD64, do i need to use the x64 alpha of ubuntu? the last time i used the x64 version, things didn't work too well....
[03:00] <SilentDis> Pelo, yep.  was just typing out a suggestion to shell script it ;)
[03:00] <Artemis3> anyone has any idea how to create an udf dvd?
[03:00] <Artemis3> covert|afk no
[03:00] <covert|afk> thank you
[03:00] <SilentDis> Artemis3, i believe k3b has support for that built in.  using command-line type tools, no idea, sorry
[03:00] <ubm> cchance yes ubuntu will work with that card the manufacturer  is Norwood Micro
[03:00] <a_coward> I just downloaded pngout... where should I put the executable?
[03:00] <Q_Continuum> covert|afk: no, you can use the i386 version - the amd64 is mainly used for those that need large RAM support (over 4GB) or other "specialty" situations.
[03:01] <eck> Q_Continuum: i think you are pretty close if you can reformat the drive and put grub on it
[03:01] <CSVarg> does anyone know how to reset the SETUP_BIOS password on a laptop ?
[03:01] <Q_Continuum> eck: shouldn't be any problems that the drive formats as FAT32, instead of FAT correct?
[03:01] <cchance> ubm, is their anything else i need to get to make sure it works?
[03:01] <ubm> a_coward you need to put it in /usr and create symlinks
[03:01] <eck> Q_Continuum: that's fine
[03:01] <Q_Continuum> CSVarg: sometimes pulling the CMOS battery, but with any recent one you'd have to contact the manufacturer
[03:01] <eck> grub can read all of them
[03:01] <Q_Continuum> eck: Its a 16GB flash drive :P
[03:02] <ubm> cchance if it dosnt work out for you make sure to have your receipt ready ;)
[03:02] <CSVarg> Pulling the battery didn't work and it is a used computer.
[03:02] <SilentDis> CSVarg, most of the time, it involves blanking the bios completely.  there are SOME brute force tools out there (image the bios and do a password lookup on it type of thing) but I don't know of any by name
[03:02] <ubm> cchance get it from compusa
[03:02] <a_coward> Can i just put it in /usr/bin?
[03:02] <Pelo> do you guys know a command to add the enable the extra repos and to add thrid party one ?
[03:02] <cchance> ubm, as in physicaly go dow their? Their is not compusa near by with in 20 miles
[03:03] <SilentDis> CSVarg, other than that, there's usually a jumper you can short to cause it to blank.  you'd need the bios mfgr/make info (usually printed on the mobo somewhere), then a trip to google to find a tech users manual
[03:03] <ubm> cchance spend the extra 10 dollars for piece of mind
[03:03] <Roconda> hey,, how can I use two sound processes at the same time with esd? (e.g. teamspeak and sound? )
[03:03] <mptech> does anyone know where I can find newer kernels for edgy?
[03:03] <mptech> packaged as .debs
[03:03] <ubm> cchance unless you dont mind dealing with shipping... to ease your mind ubuntu will work fine with that card
[03:03] <cchance> ubm or i could just send it back to amazon
[03:04] <ffxr> where can i look at my bootsplash settings? sdurinhg the segment where i presume bootsplash is loading i get a black screen .. only output i get is on my monitor .. "frequency out of range"
[03:04] <ubm> cchance like i said if you don't mind dealing with shipping. :)
[03:04] <cchance> ubm, where are you getting your info
[03:04] <jared> I'm trying to convert a .reg file from windows xp to Ubuntu's charset using recode. does anyone know how exactly I'm supposed to do this?
[03:04] <SilentDis> mptech, the newest kernel for edgy is 2.6.17-11.  feisty will have 2.6.20-x.  other than that, you're hand building, no prepacked .debs.
[03:04] <cchance> ubm, i need something to show my mom it is compatiba
[03:04] <ubm> cchance i use mine for myth tv
[03:04] <cchance> compatable.
[03:04] <iniakulohhahaha> i have already install apt-get install roundcube-webmail | but i cant login, question is : how i can create user login ?
[03:04] <CSVarg> A search on the make and model of the computer brought up nil as far as most of anything of importance goes.
[03:05] <cchance> ubm, you it?
[03:05] <cchance> you own it*
[03:05] <jared> I'm trying to convert a .reg file from windows xp to Ubuntu's charset using recode. does anyone know how exactly I'm supposed to do this?
[03:05] <ubm> cchance i own that card i purchased it here in houston i run myth tv on my ubuntu desktop to record shows. the card works.
[03:05] <jared> ?
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: what card is that?
[03:05] <SilentDis> CSVarg, other than that... is it a home built or a major manufaturer?  you very well may be SOL on this one, sorry :(
[03:05] <cchance> ubm, thanks for your help. Thats my next purchase
[03:05] <jared> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <salty> jared: i have nothing to do with windows...sorry
[03:05] <CSVarg> Gateway Solo pro 9300
[03:05] <ubm> TV Tuner Card with Remote Control, PCI by Norwood Micro
[03:06] <jared> yeah I'm trying to get onto ubuntu 100% so I need to get my photoshop and studio 8 running
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: the hauppage cards also work very well... thats what i have.
[03:06] <ubm> it uses a sis generic chipset
[03:06] <SilentDis> jared, .reg files in windows are registry entries.  you can open them, usually, in the text editor of your choice.  what exactly are you looking to do?
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah, Hauppage uses bttv..
[03:06] <jared> I'm trying to convert it to Ubuntu's charset
[03:06] <jared> http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/
[03:06] <salty> gimp is what i use instead of the photoshop cs2 9 i had
[03:06] <ubm> yeah ubuntu supports most cards ive never had a problem i mean as long as you put in the effort most hardware works perfectly
[03:07] <BalsamicChicken> how come when i burn a file on cd on one computer, i can't view the newly burnt file on another computer and this computer says the cd is full and therefore can't write new files onto this cd
[03:07] <eck> Q_Continuum: you know, you could also just install to the flash device with that much space
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah.
[03:07] <jared> it says to do  $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg    but that doesn't seem to work
[03:07] <ubm> IndyGunFreak dude i love myth tv it's wonderful and so much cheaper than tivo
[03:07] <jared> I don't like gimp that much :(
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: you should have seen my experience setting up dual monitors lastnight/this morning/thisafternoon/today..lol
[03:07] <eck> i'm not really sure how it would be useful, but i guess you could carry an ubuntu install in your pocket
[03:07] <SilentDis> !info recode
[03:07] <ubotu> recode: Character set conversion utility. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6-12 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 644 kB
[03:07] <salty> have ya tried gimp jared?
[03:07] <ubm> I record all my family guy and american dad episodes :D
[03:07] <jared> plus there are more tutorials and stuff available for photoshop
[03:07] <salty> oh...ok
[03:07] <jared> yeah I've tried it
[03:07] <ubm> IndyGunFreak you mean you actually got it to work!
[03:08] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i still havent messed with that yet
[03:08] <Damix> hi
[03:08] <jared> I also need to get studio 8 working which I imagine would have the same kind of step since I also needed to pull over a .reg file
[03:08] <SilentDis> jared, I don't have much knowledge or experience with the program.  have you checked out the man page for it, or hit up google?  just trying to give suggestions on this one.
[03:08] <|Jason8|m|> Is there any chance that someone can walk me through installing my Nvidia drivers via the commandline?  I can't get into synaptic package manager, so I'm lost
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: never used MythTV, is it just a TV client?.. i use TVTime
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: it was actually easy to get to work, problem was, it spread 1 desktop across both monitors, and id idn't like it that way
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> i wanted one desktop on each monitor.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> it was a freakin pain
[03:08] <grndslm> why isn't my network-manager showing a list of available wireless networks??
[03:08] <jared> I've tried google. All I really need to find out is which charset windows XP uses, and I really don't want to restart my comp
[03:08] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah its just for TV but you can record shows and save them to the hard drive
[03:08] <salty> my problem is that i can't find a good 3d CAD app for linux
[03:08] <SilentDis> !envy | |Jason8|m| check this tool out, does all the hard work for ya
[03:08] <ubotu> |Jason8|m| check this tool out, does all the hard work for ya: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[03:08] <mptech> Is it safe to borrow debian kernel packages?
[03:09] <Pelo> SilentDis,  if you know the names of the packages,  just  sudo apt-get  install pakcage name
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: hmm, never tried mythtv, may give it a try
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: is it in the repos?
[03:09] <ubm> I've been using it for around a 6 months
[03:09] <cameronheath> eck: anything i should know about setting the clock to utm
[03:09] <cameronheath> eck: utc'
[03:10] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah i also have a modded xbox which was one of my smartest investments i love its wonderful
[03:10] <SilentDis> cameronheath, if you're dual booting to windows, it will be mad.  other than that, ubuntu does the translations to local time for you without hastle :)
[03:10] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i just built it from source its simple
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol, i've not been brave enought o try that, that 360 was to expensive to go screwing with the innards
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: oh ok
[03:11] <ubm> IndyGunFreak you access it through http its really neat look at some of the screenshots on the site its very customizable as well..
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: ok..
[03:11] <ubm> god i love linux
[03:11] <grndslm> anybody know why my network-manager showing a list of available wireless networks??
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> i'm installing it now actually....lol
[03:11] <eck> cameronheath: use whatever your system clock is using
[03:11] <eck> cameronheath: if you are using windows just use local time
[03:11] <ubm> you can install linux on just about any consumer device its crazy
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: me and you both,
[03:12] <ubm> IndyGunFreak you need to check out openwrt and x-wrt its nuts
[03:12] <ffxr> where can i look at my bootsplash settings? sdurinhg the segment where i presume bootsplash is loading i get a black screen .. only output i get is on my monitor .. "frequency out of range"
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: just about.. i was looking on Youtube the other day, and they had a video of FC5 or 6 one, on a PS3.
[03:12] <kelsin> IndyGunFreak: Myth actually has a very good commercial skipper, and has been very solid for me and my friends as well
[03:12] <ubm> IndyGunFreak another cool port is NSLU2/Debian for the Linksys NSLU2
[03:12] <n-iCe> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:12] <jared> hey, how exactly do I change the directory to something that has a space in the middle, like Program Files in my wine directory?
[03:12] <mbdl> hey everyone i just wanted to pop bye and state some facts.... you cant upgrade ubuntu via the update manager...
[03:12] <ubm> I run apache and ftpd on mine its very cool
[03:12] <jared> because everytime I do cd Program Files I get a theres no Program folder
[03:13] <Pelo> ffxr,  you'll probably have to edit the xorg.conf file for horizontal rez and verticla freq that match your screen
[03:13] <mbdl> u now haft to eather do it the apt-get or download the iso and mount it
[03:13] <rbil> jared: use quotes
[03:13] <ubm> IndyGunFreak no way thats crazy the hardware specs for the gpu on the PS3 is amazing
[03:13] <jared> ok
[03:13] <SilentDis> jared, 2 methods:  escape the space with a \, or put quotes around it.  either `cd Program\ Files` or `cd "Program Files"`
[03:13] <mbdl> please pass it on
[03:13] <salty> jared: /Program\ Files
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah, its on Youtube, should be easy to find, or maybe GoogleVideo
[03:13] <jared> thanks ")
[03:13] <jared> *:)
[03:13] <ubm> IndyGunFreak im searching now :)
[03:15] <ubm> IndyGunFreak actually my wife just wrote a paper on the difference between linux and windows, pros and cons her professor had never even used linux after ready the paper she is using ubuntu which is pretty cool..
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> eck: One issue with that howto.  I don't have root or sudo access on this box.
[03:15] <ubm> reading*
[03:15] <SilentDis> jared, I personally use escape characters.  I blame PHP.  :P
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> not sure how that happeened
[03:15] <jared> yeah php does that to you
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: did you find it, i have it pulled up if you want the link
[03:15] <|Jason8|m|> What's the command to fetch a file and install it that's located on a web server somewhere?
[03:15] <|Jason8|m|> it's a .deb file
[03:16] <jared> did you know that PHP stands for PHP Hypertext Processor? isn't that stupid?
[03:16] <ubm> IndyGunFreak please toss me the link
[03:16] <arooni> hey folks
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXcuhJkwx4
[03:16] <rbil> |Jason8|m|: wget
[03:16] <salty> wget <the URL>
[03:16] <elkbuntu> jared, about as stupid as GNU's Not Unix
[03:16] <arooni> how do i write to a readonly file
[03:16] <Z_Morek> well... I've managed to completely break lirc on my system
[03:16] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, from the command line, you can issue a `wget http://server.com/file.whatever` command, if that's what you're looking for
[03:16] <arooni> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <arooni> folr example
[03:16] <ffxr> Pelo they are set perfectly .. using my monitors manual.. & EVERYTHING elese works fine... i was thinking the bootsplash image was too big or something...
[03:16] <|Jason8|m|> thanks :)
[03:16] <Z_Morek> and I am jumping with joy
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: resolution is awful, must becuse of the standard TV output
[03:16] <|Jason8|m|> Exactly what I was looking for :)
[03:16] <ray_> hello all
[03:17] <Z_Morek> anyone here good with lirc?
[03:17] <BalsamicChicken> how come when i burn a file on cd on one computer, i can't view the newly burnt file on another computer and this computer says the cd is full and therefore can't write new files onto this cd
[03:17] <Pelo> ffxr,  this is not the default splash screen I take it ?
[03:17] <arooni> hey folks.... how can edit a read only file
[03:17] <Z_Morek> and able to guide me thru fixing a bad install
[03:17] <SilentDis> !info lirc
[03:17] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[03:17] <Z_Morek> arooni check the permissions
[03:17] <grndslm> that was helpful
[03:17] <bjames> does anyone have experience of installing Ubuntu over multiple drives using software JBOD?
[03:17] <arooni> Z_Morek: how do i do that... and how do i change persmission so i can edit it
[03:17] <ray_> i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use
[03:18] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah FC5 thats nuts
[03:18] <Tom_Kun> I have a driver question for ubuntu. Is there any way of getting the CNET CNUSB-611AR working? I know it uses atmel, but I have had 0 success in making it work properly in the past.
[03:18] <SilentDis> arooni, so long as it's on a partition mounted read/write, and just has permissions set for read only, you can use sudo to gain temporary super-user privalages.  what file are you trying to edit?
[03:18] <pucho> Hello
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah, but the res sucks, he needs to get a hi def tv..lol
[03:18] <ray_> how do i install grub to the second hard drive now?
[03:18] <arooni> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:18] <pucho> No entiendo nada
[03:18] <Z_Morek> ubotu: I need to install from source
[03:18] <Z_Morek> nvm
[03:18] <ffxr> yes it is.. Pelo.. ive had this problem since i first put the LiveCD into my CDROM.. everything is fine, except for 10secs of blackness during the boot process...
[03:18] <pucho> De que est'an Hablando_
[03:19] <salty> arooni 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:19] <SilentDis> arooni, unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing, i don't recommend editing your sources.list file without a backup.  here's the command though: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <Pelo> ffxr,  that's a bit out of my league, try looking it up on the forum
[03:19] <eck> Q_Continuum: so you can't format the drive?
[03:19] <pucho> You are de Pelo, or not
[03:19] <eck> use the live cd
[03:19] <arooni> i'm just uncommeting some stuff....
[03:19] <|Jason8|m|> Okay, so I downloaded the .deb file, now how do I install it?
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: one of those videos shows Windows XP running on a PS3..lol
[03:19] <arooni> i dont know what im doing , i m following http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/12/07/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-edgy-eft
[03:19] <SilentDis> salty, if you're looking to super-user a gui program such as gedit, use gksudo ;)
[03:19] <Pelo> pucho,  I am "a" Pelo
[03:19] <jared> Yeah I hear you can put any OS on a PS3
[03:19] <bjames> WinXP on PS3?!
[03:20] <salty> arooni 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:20] <ffxr> ok.. Pelo.. thanks for replying... [i think its got something to with an unsupported EEPROM on my motherboard...] 
[03:20] <S0crates> Anyone gotten anjuta 2.1.1 working?
[03:20] <bjames> I didn't realise they were x86
[03:20] <arooni> ahh ok
[03:20] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, what are you trying to install?
[03:20] <arooni> salty: i accidentally did chmod 777
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> bjames: yep....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ecr8tWetI&mode=related&search=
[03:20] <ray_> i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use
[03:20] <arooni> salty: to edit it... how can i revert it back to read only
[03:20] <pucho> Where are you from_
[03:20] <ray_> how can i go back and install grub?
[03:20] <Q_Continuum> eck: crap.  I don't have any burned copies around.  I think I'll try doing it from windows again to the USB drive.  Think pre-partitioning it, then dd'ing that boot.img will work? (to a single partition)
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> bjames: nevermind..
[03:20] <Z_Morek> arooni google around for chmod
[03:20] <salty> as soon as you close it it'll be the  same
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> idiot said it was XP, but its Fedora with Qemu running XP..lol
[03:20] <grndslm> arooni:  man chmod
[03:20] <Q_Continuum> eck: or would dd write to the whole device, and overwrite any and all partitions?
[03:20] <Z_Morek> it's a good thing to know about... and knowing permissions
[03:20] <|Jason8|m|> SilentDis, there's a program that installs nvidia drivers, I just downloaded it, it's a .deb file.  I'm doing everything with the commandline, so I'm kinda iffy on it all.
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> still pretty impressive.
[03:21] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, using envy I take it?
[03:21] <jared> gah! I forget how to get to the wine config. Anyone know?
[03:21] <|Jason8|m|> yep
[03:21] <|Jason8|m|> now I have to install it!
[03:21] <grndslm> anybody know why my network-manager isn't showing a list of available wireless networks, only wired??
[03:21] <eck> Q_Continuum: what would you be dd'ing?
[03:21] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, sudo dpkg -i envy*.deb :)
[03:21] <eck> sorry, i am a bit confused
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> eck: that boot.img that we tried last time.  It wanted an ISO of the Live CD.
[03:21] <ray_> i've installed ubuntu on my second hard drive but it doesn't seem to have installed grub, thus i never get the option to choose which OS I'd like to use
[03:21] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, after that, it's just sudo envy, and it does everything else for you :D
[03:22] <|Jason8|m|> SilentDis, thanks a lot! :D
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: did you see that video claiming to run XP on a PS3?...lol
[03:22] <ray_> how can i install grub now?
[03:22] <bjames> nobody in here using JBOD then?
[03:22] <Q_Continuum> eck: which is what stopped it from installing.  dd'ing the boot.img to the drive (when it was one partition) overwrote it and told the drive that it only had about 250MB free.  Otherwise I would've dropped the .ISO on there and done it.
[03:22] <arooni> so its execute, write, read, ALL from 1,2,4,7
[03:22] <SilentDis> !grub | ray_
[03:22] <ubotu> ray_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <SilentDis> !info jbod
[03:22] <ubotu> Package jbod does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:22] <arooni> and where it is depends on which group of users gets to do it
[03:22] <salty> grndslm i use wifi-radar to show  local access points
[03:22] <ray_> thanks
[03:22] <grndslm> to show?
[03:22] <salty> yes
[03:22] <gwanky> Howdy, quick question
[03:23] <grndslm> network-manager worked great for a while
[03:23] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah apparently the PS3 allows you to save information such as bootloaders in memory thats awesome
[03:23] <khaije> !jbod
[03:23] <salty> mt 'network-manager' doesn't scan for access points but 'wifi-radar' will
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jbod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <SilentDis> gwanky, ask quickly, there's too much blood in my nicotiene system right now, and while I am working to rectify that, my attention span is short lol
[03:23] <|Jason8|m|> d'oh!
[03:23] <salty> my*
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah.. but the thing was, he wasn't running windows, he was running FC5, w/ Qemu and Windows. XP
[03:23] <gwanky> My brother has a windows computer and I have a linux computer. When I burn Age of Empires II (the windows version, I'm using wine) on my brothers computer it reports all the files as not valid win32 applications.
[03:23] <eck> Q_Continuum: try the image here http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[03:23] <grndslm> salty:  very odd, i dunno if i like where this is headed
[03:24] <eck> Q_Continuum: i don't know how you plan on partitioning the drive beforehand
[03:24] <grndslm> sounds like a bug to me
[03:24] <eck> that is what i am confused about
[03:24] <ormandj> why aren't my windows drives being automatically mounted? i checked the help docs, they say they should be
[03:24] <bjames> khaije: Ever tried it?
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> eck: I can boot to windows on the laptop I'm installing it on. (haven't wiped it yet)
[03:24] <SilentDis> gwanky, i've never herd of such a problem.  are you buring from an iso or just files?
[03:24] <eck> Q_Continuum: i think you can write the boot.img with dd in windows
[03:24] <khaije> bjames: are you talking about just a bunch of disks aka lvm ?
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> eck: and repartition it with two, then when I dd the .img it (hopefully) only clobbers the one partition.
[03:24] <Chef> hey, anyone know why my 6.06 system won't let me know about 6.10 even if I run "update-manager -c"?
[03:25] <Chef> more specifically, is there some sort of log I can look at for update-manager?
[03:25] <bjames> Just a Bunch Of Disks, yes - I've got two drives I want to appear as one
[03:25] <Q_Continuum> eck: the problem is when I wrote the boot.img it decided it only had the free space that was available in the original boot.img device.
[03:25] <gwanky> iso
[03:25] <SilentDis> !upgrade | Chef - just trying to make sure the basics got covered with this info bit
[03:25] <gwanky> that I got off bittorrent
[03:25] <ubotu> Chef - just trying to make sure the basics got covered with this info bit: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:25] <eck> Q_Continuum: i am not sure if that will work, you can try it. the reason is that the boot.img includes a MBR and partition table (which is why it tells you that you don't have very much space available)
[03:26] <ormandj> ok, let me phrase it another way, do i have to manually edit fstab in order to have my windows disks automatically mounted?
[03:26] <Q_Continuum> eck: any way to "edit" the boot.img before I dd it then?  (Windows apps preferred) basically to "resize" the partition it creates.
[03:26] <Chef> SilentDis: thanks; I already upgraded one system just fine last week, but this one for some reason says no updates are available when I run: gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:26] <whosit> ormandj, yes
[03:26] <Chef> (same thing I did for the other system)
[03:26] <Chef> I did manage to get some security updates for 6.06 today, though...
[03:26] <ormandj> whosit: thank you. maybe they should be mounted by default in future releases :)
[03:27] <okaratas> what is ubuntu cdrom message ?
[03:27] <SilentDis> Chef, hmm...  just to be sure everything is up to date, do this:  sudo aptitude update
[03:27] <whosit> Mine was automounted.
[03:27] <whosit> what version you running?
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:35 ozgur kernel: [17192450.060000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 24
[03:27] <SilentDis> Chef, from a terminal, of course
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  hdb: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.168000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 0
[03:27] <okaratas> Mar  4 04:25:36 ozgur kernel: [17192450.388000]  UDF-fs: No VRS found
[03:27] <ormandj> whosit: fresh install of 6.10
[03:27] <SilentDis> !pastebin | ormandj
[03:27] <ubotu> ormandj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:27] <whosit> dual boot?
[03:27] <ormandj> SilentDis, dude, why?
[03:27] <gwanky> Anyone ever here of something like that
[03:27] <ormandj> i'm not pasting anything, that ws okaratas
[03:27] <codecaine> how you open a image through terminal?
[03:27] <codecaine> whats the image viewer command name
[03:27] <Tom_Kun> hehe, assumed as much :p noone knows how to
[03:27] <ormandj> whosit: no, just a ubuntu install only, but there are two NTFS disks
[03:28] <okaratas> ormandj, hm okey sorry.
[03:28] <Q_Continuum> eck: I think I found a .img editor, or more than one.  I just need to increase the "size" of it so I can put the ISO on there after I dd the image on.  Then it will work fine.
[03:28] <whosit> thats why.
[03:28] <SilentDis> ormandj, sorry, dislexia and not enough nicotiene, my apologies.
[03:28] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i wouldnt trust windows on my PS3 lol
[03:28] <ormandj> silentdis: no worries
[03:28] <Chef> SilentDis: 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade' says 0 package to upgrade.
[03:28] <Artemis3> hm im having fun trying to build an udf disc...
[03:28] <ubuntu_no_worky> hey every1....
[03:28] <SilentDis> !pastebin | okaratas
[03:28] <ubotu> okaratas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:28] <eck> Q_Continuum: yes, that would work
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol, me and you both
[03:28] <ormandj> whosit: what do you mean?
[03:28] <knovak> Hey all, I upgraded to Edgy the other night and when I try to run games now I get this: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"
[03:28] <|Jason8|m|> Is there a way to load the GUI of Ubuntu when you don't have drivers for your video card?
[03:28] <whosit> You have to create a mount point for them.
[03:28] <ubuntu_no_worky> does anyone here know why the powerbutton locks up the computer but the normal shutdown works fine?
[03:28] <ubm> IndyGunFreak now if the screen through some odd kernel32 error it would have been more believable
[03:28] <Q_Continuum> eck: now just to find one that I don't have to pay to unlock that functionality ;-D
[03:28] <SilentDis> Chef, ok good.  means the list is at least up to date...  let me do some poking...
[03:29] <ormandj> whosit: yes, i know how to mount disks w/ mount and how to edit fstab, i just found it odd that ubuntu is automatically mounting them somewhere
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: perhaps if it crashed,
[03:29] <grndslm> salty:  wifi-radar doesn't seem to be working either
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: maybe the BSOD..lol
[03:29] <ubm> haha
[03:29] <ormandj> is->isn't
[03:29] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, you'll need to resetup x to use the VESA driver (basic vga stuff, nothing fancy).  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:29] <whosit> Yea, It never bothered me either since it is easy enough to set the up.
[03:29] <ormandj> whosit: oh well, maybe next version :)
[03:29] <Artemis3> ormandj, it would be nice to disable automounting
[03:30] <ormandj> artemis: i want automounting, it's not working for me, neither of the NTFS disks are mounting automatically
[03:30] <Artemis3> ntfs?
[03:30] <ormandj> yes...
[03:30] <Artemis3> why would you need an ntfs disk automounted? usb stick?
[03:30] <knovak> anyone know how I can fix "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"? I have the latest nvidia legacy drivers for my card, and my xorg.conf file is set up right...
[03:31] <ormandj> artemis3: usb thumbdrives
[03:31] <Artemis3> cant you simply reformat into fat?
[03:31] <sureshot> if i wanted to compile the kernel how would i go about starting that
[03:31] <eck> Q_Continuum: so you don't have root access to a linux computer? that is definitely the easiest solution
[03:31] <ubm> IndyGunFreak dude so my mom works for a voting consumer research company and she works primarily with a younger crowd and she was in the office and she goes mabye we should start using linux and all young people were like you know about linux?!?! she responded yeah its free and opensource - the old woman made me proud when i herd about it.
[03:31] <EkToBoT> window 1
[03:31] <EkToBoT> lol
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol
[03:31] <Pelo> sureshot,  check the forum I am sure you will find a howto
[03:32] <whosit> Ubm, its free and Xgl kicks MS's but in eye candy :)
[03:32] <SilentDis> Chef, hmm... i'm not finding anything, other than the command SHOULD be `gksu "update-manager -c"`.  outside that, I'd say pull the alt-install CD (or the DVD) for edgy and try the `gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"` command instead
[03:32] <_`XeOn_> i liked the command sudo apt-get remove windows-vista
[03:32] <Artemis3> on the other hand the other day i saw certain usb micro hd formated as ntfs... this could become a nuisance
[03:32] <_`XeOn_> eheh
[03:32] <sureshot> Pelo thanks man just in a middle of a big project that is taking more time than i thought.. i was thinking build essentials
[03:32] <sureshot> i need the compiler
[03:33] <ubm> IndyGunFreak they need to make a distro targeted towards 'parents' like ubuntu for parents. that would be cool big flashy icons for people with poor sight.. ya know something simple..
[03:33] <Pelo> sureshot,  if you are compiling you probably will need it
[03:33] <|Jason8|m|> SilentDis, any chance you'd be free to work with me via Query?
[03:33] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know how to automount drives... ext3?
[03:33] <Pelo> probably/ assuredly
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: I think its called Kubuntu..lol
[03:33] <ubuntu_no_worky> why doesn't ubuntu do it automagically?  will this be fixed in feisty?
[03:33] <Artemis3> oh, and ext3 too?
[03:33] <sureshot> Pelo a sense of humor i see well i need that thanks
[03:33] <arooni> hey folks
[03:33] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, I prefer to keep things in chat, so others can correct/read/learn/etc.  but if you insist, I am PMable :)
[03:33] <freeflyer57> hi
[03:34] <arooni> is there anyway i can get cool visual effects like vista has
[03:34] <arooni> or ox10
[03:34] <ubm> whosit dude your absolutely right the Xgl is beautiful
[03:34] <arooni> os10 on apple..... for my ubuntu?
[03:34] <Artemis3> like beryl?
[03:34] <arooni> like cool stuff for alt-tab... etc
[03:34] <S0crates> I want a stable version of Anjuta, either 1.24 or 2.1.1 Beta, but not this 2.0.2 crap.  How do I make this happen the cleanest???
[03:34] <whosit> Yea, I got it running on my laptop right now :)
[03:34] <|Jason8|m|> SilentDis: Okay.  It'd be easier to keep track of in query.
[03:34] <Errpast1> trying to install  a brother 2070 printer on Ubuntu 6.06
[03:34] <EkToBoT> use spyglass
[03:34] <arooni> EkToBoT: do i do sudo apt-get install spyglass
[03:34] <arooni> ?
[03:34] <EkToBoT> its a 3d desktop environment better than vista
[03:34] <EkToBoT> no
[03:34] <codecaine> where can I get documentation on linux api
[03:35] <cusco> before I would dpkg-reconfigure locales to chose my local charset
[03:35] <codecaine> is linux api like windows api?
[03:35] <EkToBoT> you will need to pull it off the net
[03:35] <cusco> now how do I do?
[03:35] <SilentDis> |Jason8|m|, just fyi, you do have to !register your nick on freenode to use PMs.
[03:35] <codecaine> for programming
[03:35] <|Jason8|m|> oh
[03:35] <Exershio> can somebody help me? I want to set my screen resolution at 1152x864, but all I have is 800x600, 1024x768, and 1280x1024
[03:35] <sontek> Hey, i'm trying to use virtualbox and I get this error: http://monoport.com/1926
[03:35] <sontek> anyone know what causes that?
[03:35] <`nicola> How do I configure myme types for .list files ? thanks I would like to change the default associated application
[03:35] <Chef> SilentDis: yeah...  couldn't find anything in the wikis or via google either.  I may just back up & do a fresh Edgy install...
[03:35] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i always tell people and i know at some point we have all herd this ' i dont use linux it's too difficult, i tried it and gave up.' you may have given up on linux but it will never give up on you. Windows is like rehab it's for quitters.
[03:36] <arooni> EkToBoT: having trouble finding spyglass
[03:36] <Q_Continuum> eck: correct.  No root access. (Now have laptop here next to me)
[03:36] <grndslm> Errpast1:  can you not go to System | Administration | Printers and click Add
[03:36] <aesiamun> does anyone know if there are issues with installing wine?  I get the traditional: 'package referred by others but not found' error.
[03:36] <EkToBoT> spyglass is pretty demanding should check the requirements before installing this addon for gnome
[03:36] <rbil> sontek: remove all references to wacom in your xorg.conf. I have no idea why Ubuntu decides to include input devices like that by default.
[03:36] <Pelo> aesiamun,  #winehq
[03:36] <SilentDis> Chef, that's actually what I did personally to this machine.  Feisty will be my first in place upgrade heh
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: true statement there... i started in 2003.. mostly just distro hopping and going bak to Windows.
[03:36] <EkToBoT> look on google video
[03:36] <ubm> Exershio what video card are you using?
[03:36] <EkToBoT> i think there is a link on the video
[03:36] <aesiamun> Pelo, sorry but this is an ubuntu error, not wine
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> finally got Xandros to work about a year and a half ago
[03:37] <aesiamun> apt-get install wine fails
[03:37] <eck> Q_Continuum: I don't suppose you could just install over windows and then reinstall at a later point in time?
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: try SUDO apt-get install wine
[03:37] <aesiamun> ugh
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> big difference..lol
[03:37] <aesiamun> yeah i did that
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: did you add thee repositobe?
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> geez..
[03:37] <Exershio> ub, I'm using an onboard intel one, but when I had Windows XP I was able to use that resolution
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: did you add the repository
[03:37] <arooni> EkToBoT: cant find it on youtube
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> eck: as in do two installs?  No, I can do that.  I just need to make sure I can do it :D
[03:37] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah i did the exact same thing i think everyone does. We all just experiment at first then once we realize the huge amount of freedom you are given when you say no to the dows we stick with linux.
[03:37] <aesiamun> it's not included in the default ubuntu repo?
[03:37] <arooni> is there any way i can install a vista like visual effect add on for my ubuntu 6.10?
[03:38] <EkToBoT> i will find the link for you one second pls
[03:38] <arooni> i'm having trouble finding it :(
[03:38] <arooni> ok
[03:38] <whosit> Linux, Xgl and Mythtv :)
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: ..yup... or you just get sick of upgrading M$'s crap...lol
[03:38] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i value AOL cds more than a windows install disc
[03:38] <grndslm> arooni:  you mean beryl?
[03:38] <arooni> grndslm: i have no idea what i mean...
[03:38] <grndslm> or an effect for beryl?
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: i'm not sure to be truthful.... http://www.winehq.org  click on Download(or get now, something like that). click Ubuntu, it shows you how to add the repo and download wine
[03:38] <knovak> Hey all, I upgraded to Edgy the other night and when I try to run games now I get this: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"
[03:38] <arooni> grndslm: i just want a cool visual effect add in
[03:38] <grndslm> oh...well, then yea..beryl
[03:38] <arooni> for UI, for ... alt tab
[03:38] <arooni> etc...
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lmao
[03:39] <knovak> and when I try running GLXgears I get this : "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[03:39] <arooni> spice it up a little
[03:39] <aesiamun> um ok...
[03:39] <ubm> IndyGunFreak bill isnt fooling me by these large donations... he does it for tax purposes i will always think he sucks ass.
[03:39] <whosit> www.gnome-look.org
[03:39] <arooni> grndslm: can i run... sudo apt-get install beryl
[03:39] <EkToBoT> lol how hard did you look
[03:39] <arooni> hard!
[03:39] <arooni> ;p
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: only people Bill has fooled is the justice dept..lol
[03:39] <grndslm> ## Beryl
[03:39] <grndslm> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[03:39] <grndslm> arooni:  add that
[03:39] <grndslm> to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <Artemis3> knovak, type glxinfo in a console
[03:39] <Tom_Kun> arooni, you can always spend about 1000$ upgradering your computer to be compatible with vista home premium.
[03:39] <Tom_Kun> :p
[03:39] <Errpast1> can someone please help me to get my brother 2070 n printer to work
[03:39] <grndslm> then aptitude update && aptitude upgrade as root
[03:39] <Scooty> hy,is there anyone can help me,pls?
[03:39] <grndslm> by sudo -i
[03:39] <ubm> IndyGunFreak besides he is a pirate himself getting rich by deception
[03:40] <knovak> name of display: :0.0
[03:40] <knovak> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:40] <knovak> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:40] <knovak> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:40] <knovak> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> no kidding.
[03:40] <ubm> that would be a good title for a book about bill gates
[03:40] <knovak> sorry for the 4 lines
[03:40] <knovak> 5*
[03:40] <Scooty> hy,is there anyone can help me,pls?
[03:40] <EkToBoT> sorry i got it wrong its called "looking glass"
[03:40] <Errpast1> I went to system>administration>printing>printers>add new printer
[03:40] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: Thanks,  I'm just surprised they don't have their own packages.
[03:40] <Artemis3> dont paste output here,
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: they do...
[03:40] <aesiamun> it's not in the ubuntu repos
[03:40] <knovak> yeah, I know
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> but i'm not sure what ubuntu repo to find it in, so just get it fromt he source
[03:40] <knovak> im just trying to get this working
[03:40] <Errpast1> I successfully added HP 2070N for CUPS - it shows up
[03:40] <knovak> but I have no clue as to why it wouldnt
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: its in one of the ubuntu repos, i'm just not sure which one to be truthful.
[03:41] <aesiamun> i have universe, metaverse and the normal...so if it's not in those three, i dont know of any other ubuntu repos
[03:41] <Artemis3> what card?
[03:41] <grndslm> Errpast1:  congrats!
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: there's a gozillion.. :)
[03:41] <aesiamun> is there really?
[03:41] <arooni> grndslm: i edited the sources.list with that deb thing
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: quite a few.
[03:41] <ubm> knovak use paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[03:41] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: haven't heard of that one.
[03:41] <EkToBoT> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g
[03:41] <arooni> and when i tried sudo apt-get install it couldnt find it
[03:41] <rbil> knovak: have u got Load GLX and Load dri lines in your xorg.conf?
[03:41] <EkToBoT> thats looking glass link
[03:41] <grndslm> arooni:  cool beans
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: some are official, some are unofficial "backports", etc...
[03:42] <Errpast1> grndslm, but when I send a print job, it stays in the queue
[03:42] <arooni> grndslm: well im a little unsure on how to get it workin :P
[03:42] <EkToBoT> np only the vidoe but you can see if you will like it
[03:42] <sontek> Hey, I install the kubuntu desktop to check it out but I like gdm more than kdm, How do I tell ubuntu that gdm is my default?
[03:42] <ubm> sontek in sessions before you login
[03:42] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: wow, even Google doesn't know about gozillion
[03:42] <arooni> EkToBoT: yes but how do i get it
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: gozillion is a really high number....lol
[03:42] <CpuID2> grndslm, got a ppc beryl repo around?
[03:42] <knovak> rbil, yes I do
[03:42] <ubm> sontek down at the left of the screen ;)
[03:42] <amaan> which mp3 playing software supports ipod besides rthymthbox?
[03:42] <Errpast1> I'm using it as a network printer, ethernet to my local home network
[03:42] <sontek> ubm: wheres the config for it? I want to do /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:42] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: oooh,...i thought that was the name :)
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: lol.. no.. it was a reference to how many repos are out there for Ubuntu.
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> there's a list i saw the other day, that listed like 240...
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> supposedly it was all of them, but i don't know.
[03:43] <ubm> sontek its located in /etc/
[03:43] <EkToBoT> arooni: im not sure you will probably have to pull a.tar from the sun website
[03:43] <ubm> sontek one sec ill get the name of the file
[03:43] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: i realize there are a lot of unnoficial ones.  I just would have thought that Ubuntu would have their own wine package in one of the top three.
[03:43] <Scooty> hy,is there anyone can help me,pls?
[03:43] <EkToBoT> its all open source i think
[03:43] <shriphani> guys i am compiling fluxbox from source on dapper and it doesnt show up in the sessions list in the login screen
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: again, i thought it was to be truthful, but who knows.
[03:44] <ubm> sontek gdm.conf ?
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: but its real easy to install from the wine repo.
[03:44] <Pelo> symlinks command is   ln -s symlink   target right ?
[03:44] <rbil> knovak: what video driver u using?
[03:44] <aesiamun> IndyGunFreak: yeah i'm looking at it now.
[03:44] <arooni> grndslm: so once i add that deb link for beryl.... how do i install it
[03:44] <eck> shriphani: look at the fluxbox dpkg or build the fluxbox .deb
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: ok..
[03:44] <arooni> EkToBoT: im a little new to linux
[03:44] <aesiamun> stupid sling media not having a real linux port is causing me to do this...it's the only reason
[03:44] <benjoer456> indy : so do i
[03:44] <ubm> sontek /etc/gdm/gdm.conf i believe
[03:44] <shriphani> eck i got the tarball
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: sling media?
[03:44] <aesiamun> yeah they make the slingbox
[03:45] <Scooty> hy,is there anyone can help me,pls?
[03:45] <knovak> rbil: I am using nvidia-glx-legacy, my card is Geforce MX 4000
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> benjoer456: so do i what?..sorry you lost me
[03:45] <eck> shriphani: it will be easier for you to get the .deb source and patch it
[03:45] <EkToBoT> arooni: http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
[03:45] <aesiamun> it's a box you hook up to your cable/satellite/etc and it streams to a client.
[03:45] <EkToBoT> thats the oficial homepage
[03:45] <eck> shriphani: or else read the GDM documentation
[03:45] <benjoer456> i'm new to linux too
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> aesiamun: oh ok.
[03:45] <NET||abuse> Hi all,, just a little problem getting my share to work on my home network, trying to make a dir shareable so i can copy a file from my windows desktop onto my laptop (ubuntu) using smb
[03:45] <sontek> ubm: I need to tell my computer that gdm is the default
[03:45] <Pelo> Scooty,  what is your problem ?
[03:45] <Kismet> anyone having freeze issue when quitting X.org with fglrx driver and ubuntu Edgy ?
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> benjoer456: what did you need to know?
[03:45] <benjoer456> how do i get libc6 package
[03:45] <sontek> ubm: when I did /etc/init.d/gdm start it says it can't start because its not the defaut
[03:45] <sontek> default*
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> been that shoule be in your repositories.
[03:46] <ubm> sontek one sec
[03:46] <shriphani> guys where is the xsession file ?
[03:46] <Pelo> benjoer456,  menu > system > admin > synaptic : search
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> benjoer456: what are you trying to install that requires it?
[03:46] <NET||abuse> i right click and set the sharing, uncheck the read only bit,, but then when i go to my windows deskotp, start->run  \\x.x.x.x\winshare it asks for user/password
[03:46] <benjoer456> needed for libmpeg3
[03:46] <ubm> sontek did you try .xsession or .xinitrc
[03:46] <sontek> ubm: I think I found it, /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:46] <benjoer456> libc6 needed for libmpeg3
[03:46] <knovak> rbil, hang on, im going to try rebooting my system
[03:46] <Pelo> benjoer456,  menu > system > admin > synaptic : search
[03:46] <arooni> how can have VIM like editing abilities on my command line
[03:46] <NET||abuse> i put in my linux user user/pass and it comes back with the laptops hostname prepended infront of the username with a \ inbetween
[03:47] <tachu> hey im looking for ubuntu themes where can I download some
[03:47] <arooni> or at least jump to the beginning of the command line
[03:47] <kenv> I just installed the new ubuntu and am trying to get wmv files to run.  Any suggestions?
[03:47] <NET||abuse> is there a workgroup name or something i have to set for windows xp to get access to this share?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: guess he didn't appreciate our advice..lol
[03:47] <Pelo> tachu,  gnome look ,  gnome art ,  or try the art manager in synaptic
[03:47] <grndslm> arooni:  i already told ya... sudo -i to become root
[03:47] <NET||abuse> and how do i get to the samba configuration to set such an option?
[03:47] <pepetrueno> Hi, i need to ask a dumb question, is it necesary to have both OS on the same hard drive so that grub will show them at boot time or you can have 2 OS in dif hdd and will they show in grub?
[03:47] <tachu> Pelo: thanks
[03:47] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  no one ever listens to me
[03:47] <shriphani> eck: where is the xsession file ?
[03:47] <grndslm> then aptitude install beryl after you've updated && upgraded
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: you were right on.... i always presume people have played with the menus enough to know where synaptic is
[03:48] <Errpast1> where is a good site to troubleshoot a network printer installation
[03:48] <Scooty> hy,is there anyone can help me,pls?
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: http://www.hardashell.com
[03:48] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  is the symlink command ln -s or ls -n ?
[03:48] <Pelo> Scooty,  what is your problem ?
[03:48] <EkToBoT> Scooty: whats the problem
[03:48] <EkToBoT> lol
[03:48] <arooni> grndslm: i can do that root thing but when i run aptitude install beryl it doesnt download anything...
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> i think ls -n.. i don't use it to often.
[03:48] <arooni> it says after unpacking 0kb will be used
[03:49] <Errpast1> IndyGunFreak, ha ha.  It took me 2 minutes on Vista.  And I'm an hour into it with Ubuntu
[03:49] <eck> ln -s
[03:49] <grndslm> arooni:  does it complain
[03:49] <kenv> Help!! I just installed the new ubuntu and am trying to get wmv files to run.  Any suggestions?
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: i understand, but you'll feel more of a reward with Linux.. :)
[03:49] <NET||abuse> anyone ever setup a folder to let windows upload things onto their ubuntu box?
[03:49] <arooni> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "beryl"
[03:49] <Scooty> i need a pppoe internet connection and i don't know how to do it
[03:49] <Werdnum> hello all
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> !wmv
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:49] <Werdnum> I'm having apt troubles
[03:49] <Scooty> can you help me?
[03:49] <tachu> i installed beryl but it won't work, i get something that there is no composite so i edited the xorg.conf "Extensions" section to "Composite" "Enable" but it still won't work. help?
[03:49] <Scooty> i hade usb modem
[03:50] <n-iCe> Thank you guys , gracias !
[03:50] <Errpast1> IndyGunFreak, ya, just wish I could print
[03:50] <Werdnum> E: Package libwmf0.2-7 has no installation candidate
[03:50] <Pelo> Scooty,  terminal ,  type sudo pppeoconf and answer the questions, when it doubt use the default provided
[03:50] <Werdnum> I don't know why.
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1:  i understand
[03:50] <Scooty> adsl connection
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: did you get it to work?
[03:50] <Werdnum> I can't install adept using apt, either
[03:50] <Errpast1> I'm off to google ubuntu + 2070 +brother
[03:50] <Pelo> Scooty,  terminal ,  type sudo pppeoconf and answer the questions, when it doubt use the default provided
[03:50] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  what ?
[03:50] <Q_Continuum> eck: So which way should I try? lol...considering I don't have root...what's probably the easiest way?  ('net connection is no issue, nor is drive space)
[03:50] <ubm> NET||abuse see here its real simple http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> hell, you asked me about something..lol
[03:50] <EkToBoT> Scooty: would iptables help??
[03:50] <Errpast1> Will also check my O'reilly Ubuntu hacks book
[03:50] <Errpast1> thanks
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> o9h yeah, how to hotlink to your desktop in Xfce
[03:50] <n-iCe> ahh no hahaha
[03:50] <n-iCe> =p
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> i told you how to do it.
[03:51] <eck> Q_Continuum: were you successful in installing grub on the drive earlier?
[03:51] <Q_Continuum> Yes.  I can install Grub without issue.
[03:51] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  how :o ?
[03:51] <Q_Continuum> Just that we've discussed so many options, trying to solidify which one I'm trying :P
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: right click your desktop, choose create launcher... Name.. Swiftfox... Command.. Swiftfox.. then click the Icon and choose an icon
[03:51] <eck> Q_Continuum: format the drive, and install grub, then copy a netboot kernel/initrd or the contents of the alternate installer ontot the drive
[03:52] <grndslm> anybody know why my network-manager isn't showing a list of available wireless networks, only wired??  and neiter is wif-radar!!
[03:52] <grndslm> neither
[03:52] <NET||abuse> ubm, thanks,, i'll have a peruse of that :) nice one
[03:52] <sureshot> is the syntax for build-essentials that same for 6.06 lts as 6.10
[03:52] <sureshot> that = the
[03:52] <Pelo> grndslm, we are sorry but your bad spelling means that we will not help you
[03:53] <Pelo> sureshot, we are sorry but your bad spelling means that we will not help you
[03:53] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  done and now ?
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> click on it
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:53] <grndslm> Pelo:  do you wanna throw down
[03:53] <n-iCe> open a text file IndyGunFreak
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> huh?
[03:53] <ubm> grndslm try sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[03:53] <n-iCe> [Desktop Entry] 
[03:53] <n-iCe> Version=1.0
[03:53] <n-iCe> Encoding=UTF-8
[03:53] <n-iCe> Type=Application
[03:53] <n-iCe> Name=Swiftfox
[03:53] <n-iCe> Comment=
[03:53] <sureshot> other than that what was not spelled wright
[03:53] <n-iCe> with that inside
[03:53] <n-iCe> Categories=Application;
[03:53] <n-iCe> Exec=Swiftfox
[03:53] <n-iCe> Icon=internet-web-browser
[03:53] <ubm> n-iCe use pastebin
[03:53] <n-iCe> Terminal=false
[03:53] <n-iCe> StartupNotify=false
[03:53] <n-iCe> ub paste bin ?
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: now you would try this after i put my laptop away
[03:54] <ubm> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> but id id it, and it worked fine
[03:54] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  what ?
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> oh i know..
[03:54] <sureshot> is the syntax for build-essentials the same for 6.06 as 6.10
[03:54] <NET||abuse> one other thing,, i inadvertently installed konqueror,, now i dont' want rid as i need it to run an application(which one isn't coming to me right now) but it's taken over opening urls from xchat, how can i set xchat to open urls back in firefox again?
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: it should be.. Category-  APplication, Name- Swiftfox... COMMAND-swiftfox... then chose an icon, leave everything else alone
[03:55] <n-iCe> i did it
[03:55] <RedRose> How Do I change my tty Screen resolution. I am running server ubuntu, and the tty console is displaying at low resolutoion
[03:55] <n-iCe> Is: NAme: Swiftfox Browser
[03:55] <n-iCe> Command : /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: no.. not /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox..   just swiftfox
[03:55] <n-iCe> uhm
[03:55] <n-iCe> you're bad
[03:56] <n-iCe> i did it as i told you and works
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: hmmm.
[03:56] <ant>  hmmm
[03:56] <grndslm> ubm:  i get "eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning."  both with and without eth1 enabled in /etc/network/interfaces after restarting /etc/network/interfacs
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> it should, but really, you shouldn't need the map there
[03:56] <TazDevil> Good evening everyone
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: anyways, glad it works.
[03:56] <knovak> rbil: I rebooted and the problem still exists
[03:56] <sontek> where is xorg-config or whatever its called? I can't find it on my system
[03:56] <n-iCe> but said that is working i must close it first
[03:56] <n-iCe> but isn't working :/
[03:56] <rbil> knovak: in xorg.conf is Driver "nv" or "nvidia"?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> huh?
[03:56] <Scooty> Pelo ?
[03:56] <tachu> sontek: i found it on /etc/X11
[03:56] <sureshot> is the syntax for build-essentials in 6.10 the same in 6.06lts
[03:56] <knovak> it is "nvidia"
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: sorry, not sure why it would say that....
[03:57] <S0crates> HOW DO I INSTALL ANJUTA 1.2.4A OR 2.1.1?  The 2.0.2 is in the main repository, and it's broken.
[03:57] <Pelo> Scooty,  what ?
[03:57] <sontek> tachu: under anything inside there? because mine isn't
[03:57] <n-iCe> isn't working
[03:57] <rbil> knovak: sorry, run out of ideas. if u have proprietary driver installed, I have no idea why it isn't rendering?
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> S0crates: what makes you think its broken?
[03:57] <ubm> grndslm what is the hardware version of the wireless card is it a broadcom or atheros based chipset?
[03:57] <sureshot> pelo what have i done to tick you off
[03:57] <n-iCe> IndyGunFreak,  let me do it how you said
[03:57] <tachu> sontek: just /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's where mine was...
[03:57] <RedRose> How do i change the screen resolution for tty's?
[03:57] <knovak> hmmm, well that sucks
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> n-iCe: it worked fine on my laptop
[03:58] <grndslm> ubm:  INTEL!!
[03:58] <S0crates> IndyGunFreak, it's 1 year old beta software.  It crashes often.  The help menu locks up, not integrated with Glade.... etc...
[03:58] <Scooty> i've tryed whit"sudo pppoeconf" and it founds only eth0  (sorry for my english)
[03:58] <sontek> tachu: I'm not looking for the config, i'm looking for the program that configures X for you
[03:58] <shaun__> hello
[03:58] <rbil> knovak: maybe someone using that card can help you? state your question, including card you're using
[03:58] <S0crates> IndyGunFreak, sorry, I meant to say "Alpha", not beta
[03:58] <grndslm> ubm:  ipw3945
[03:58] <ubm> grndslm get over her so i can slap you lol
[03:58] <sureshot> is the syntax for build-essentials in 6.10 the same in 6.06lts
[03:58] <ubm> grndslm ah i hate intel
[03:58] <grndslm> seriously?
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> S0crates: i have no idea.. sorry
[03:58] <S0crates> HOW DO I INSTALL ANJUTA 1.2.4A OR 2.1.1?
[03:58] <grndslm> i thought it was the easiest for everyone
[03:58] <Q_Continuum> eck: I should be able to do everything from a Ubuntu Live CD, correct? *might head to my house where I have a Live CD available*
[03:58] <grndslm> i've never had problems before
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> S0crates: unless you ca find a place to download the source and install it that way
[03:58] <ubm> grndslm yeah seriously not about the slapping part that was a joke but intel sucks ;)
[03:58] <cables> !attitude | S0crates
[03:58] <ubotu> S0crates: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:59] <Scooty> Pelo: i don't know how to set up my usb modem :(
[03:59] <ubm> grndslm did you install any drivers?
[03:59] <radar1976> hello, I need some help with apache
[03:59] <Pelo> Scooty,  eth0 is your network card on your computer,  that is ok , just fill in the rest , unless you have a router in with case just setup the conneciton in the router
[03:59] <Pelo> Scooty,  what is your native language ?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> Scooty: you'll find instructions at http://www.goodluck.com
[03:59] <grndslm> ubm:  it was working until earlier today
[03:59] <ubm> grndslm that card should support scanning mode
[03:59] <radar1976> my apache is not loading vhosts correctly
[03:59] <grndslm> no doubt
[03:59] <knovak> Alright, i'm using an Nvidia Geforce MX4000, with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. I can't run 3D games, or even glxgears. When I do, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:59] <n-iCe> Rebooting brb
[03:59] <ubm> grndslm uh let try this can you remove the card or is it integrated ?
[03:59] <Scooty> Pelo: romanian
[03:59] <grndslm> int
[03:59] <radar1976> I have mod_vhost_alias loaded... but not sure if it is loading correctly
[03:59] <radar1976> how cna i check that?
[03:59] <Pelo> guys, do we have a romanian channel ?
[04:00] <ubm> grndslm ifconfig eth1 down
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> i've saw 1 persson in here get a USB modem figured out... seems it be cheaper to get an ethernet card.. hell theyar elike 10bucks now.
[04:00] <ubm> take it down
[04:00] <ubm> then ifconfig eth1 up
[04:00] <ubm> is the card back up?
[04:00] <dude__> hello i need some help an aplication wont stop when told
[04:00] <S0crates> cables, I'm from the Gentoo community and am used to a wonderful community that loves to help one another.  Since I started using Ubuntu last month, I've found very little assistance, and am quite disconcerted.  Sorry if I am curt.
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> dude__: feel free to ask.
[04:00] <Pelo> Scooty,   goto  www.uibuntuforum.org and search for your modem maker and model number,  there is a good chance you'll find instructions there
[04:01] <ubm> grndslm use paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  and give me the out for iwconfig eth1
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> S0crates: its just USB modems are hard under Ubuntu...
[04:01] <Scooty> Pelo: ok,thanks a lot
[04:02] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know anything about automounting hard drives
[04:02] <BrendanM> Has anyone here tried using Smart package manager on Ubuntu?
[04:02] <yonilevy> going through installing some new hardware - a guide says to edit /etc/modprobe.conf. thing is, i have no /etc/modprobe.conf - only /etc/modprobe.d/* -- what should i do?
[04:02] <cables> !fstab | ubuntu_no_worky
[04:02] <ubotu> ubuntu_no_worky: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:03] <yonilevy> anyone knows /etc/modprobe.conf?
[04:03] <ubm> S0crates sorry to hear that mabye you should just give up and go back to gentoo unless of course you want to ask for help and be humble about it rather than comming to #ubuntu to bitch. :)
[04:04] <ubuntu_no_worky> isn't there a program that can automount?
[04:04] <knovak> Alright, i'm using an Nvidia Geforce MX4000, with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. I can't run 3D games, or even glxgears. When I do, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:04] <ubm> S0crates what is the problem your having with ubuntu?
[04:04] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: we are meanies and won't help him
[04:04] <ubm> oh he left good i cant stand complainers
[04:05] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, I'm in the command line, and it says gdm is already running.  How can I restart it?
[04:05] <yonilevy> i'm using an older version of ubuntu, and i don't have /etc/modprobe.conf but only /etc/modprobe.d/* - a guide is telling me to edit /etc/modprobe.conf - what should i edit instead?
[04:05] <ice_nine> I'm having trouble mounting an iso file. I type 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mnt/iso' and it gives an error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2
[04:05] <ice_nine> dmesg | tail shows : Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[04:05] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: yeah, he was having probs with a USB modem.. those things never seem to work, its just easier to go get an ethernet card
[04:05] <ubuntu_no_worky> !automount
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <eck> Q_Continuum: that is correct (sorry, i am semi-afk atm)
[04:05] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automount drives?
[04:05] <BrendanM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2177858   <--automounting
[04:05] <ubuntu_no_worky> thankies
[04:06] <ubm> IndyGunFreak man i ask for help to just the other week was having an issue with fluxbox and nanutils someone in here was kind enough to help me and i was grateful i waited close to an hour for a response.
[04:06] <Q_Continuum> eck: That's fine.  I'm trying the "from USB" instructions on the wiki. (I'd previously done it halfway, not editing everything.  Should work.  If not, I'll be around.)
[04:06] <aesiamun> ewll if you need a modem, an ethernet card won't work :)
[04:06] <eck> ok
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: i know, its "i want it, and i want it now, ".. with a lot of people in here...
[04:07] <aesiamun> i come from the slackware community, there's not I want it now :)
[04:07] <|Jason8|> I'm in the command line, and it says gdm is already running.  How can I restart it?
[04:07] <|Jason8|> whoops, sorry
[04:07] <ubm> IndyGunFreak when people help one another its a really selfless thing to do time is valuable so when people freely and selfishly sacrifice there personal time to help others its a big deal well to me at least..
[04:07] <aesiamun> |Jason8|: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:07] <|Jason8|> thanks :)
[04:07] <aesiamun> np :)
[04:07] <arooni> i have a 'wireless presenter mouse 8000' its a bluetooth mouse from M$..... can i install it on ubuntu?
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: no doubt about that
[04:08] <|Jason8|> YES, I'M BACK IN A GUI!
[04:08] <BrendanM> arooni, almost certainly
[04:08] <arooni> BrendanM: i plugged it in but nothing happens ... :(
[04:08] <ubuntu_no_worky> maybe its not partitioned
[04:08] <ubuntu_no_worky> :c
[04:08] <aesiamun> arooni: type dmesg right after plugging it in, it might say something
[04:08] <ubuntu_no_worky> I dont see it in fstab
[04:08] <BrendanM> arooni, you may have to do some tinkering with your xorg.conf file as well
[04:08] <ubm> aesiamum same here man i come from slackware community as well i remember waiting several weeks back in 98 or 99 cant remember but i waited weeks to download all 5 discs and sometimes months for drivers etc..
[04:08] <Artemis3> |Jason8|,  you were better as cli
[04:09] <ubuntu_no_worky> where is the disk partitioner in edgy?
[04:09] <BrendanM> I have a wireless (not bluetooth) mouse, and I had to do a little messing
[04:09] <arooni> aesiamun: it said:  input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1.3
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: now there's a distro i never tried.
[04:09] <Trouty> Who wants to help an Ubuntu newbie with a X Windows problem?
[04:09] <ubm> oh and i spent years trying to figure out the directories
[04:09] <comradec> is there a way to configure the way X minizmizes windows, so they aren't "iconified"?
[04:09] <aesiamun> arooni: then it recognizes it.
[04:09] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, install gparted
[04:09] <aesiamun> arooni: what type of mouse did you have before this?
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: geez how long did you have it?...lol
[04:09] <arooni> aesiamun: but moving my mouse doesnt do anything :(
[04:09] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i really like slackware i dont use it anymore
[04:09] <BrendanM> arooni, you'll just need to add a section to xorg.conf to enable it
[04:09] <arooni> aesiamun: a regular usb notebook mouse
[04:09] <jared> could anyone help me with the step on http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/ which says to use recode?
[04:09] <Trouty> Well, let me rephrase: Anyone kind enough to help a newbie with an X windows problem please pm me
[04:09] <arooni> BrendanM: ok where do i find that file
[04:10] <arooni> and what do i do with it :P
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: well, my understanding is if you cna use slackware, you can use just about any distro..
[04:10] <ubm> IndyGunFreak i used slackware for about 2 years then i found out about debian :)
[04:10] <aesiamun> arooni: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf check the device section for the mouse, see if it points to /dev/input/mice
[04:10] <jared> when I put in the command it says, it tells me  recode: adobe.reg failed: Untranslatable input in step `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968'
[04:10] <aesiamun> if it does, restart X and see if it works.
[04:10] <Artemis3> slackware is simple, debian is not...
[04:10] <Wolvenhaven> im trying to install ubuntu server to a server i got, on bootup do i need to chose "install to hd" or "install as LAMP" i want it to be a webserver so LAMP is what it will be, but i didnt know if i needed to do the base install and use packetmanager to get apache/mysql/php or if i should chose LAMP and get it all, does it matter either way?
[04:10] <Trouty> I hate spamming a chatroom, should I just throw my question out there?
[04:10] <aesiamun> if it doesn't point to /dev/input/mice, change it so that it does :)
[04:10] <Pelo> can I make a repo out of a folder ?
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: i've thought about tring a true debian install, but I really like ubuntu, and i'm getting to know my way around it, so i'll just stick with it.
[04:11] <atomiku> Trouty: yeah
[04:11] <aesiamun> slackware is pure beauty if you like simplicity
[04:11] <arooni> aesiamun: i cant see the mouse listed in xorg.conf
[04:11] <Artemis3> ubuntu is putting some sense back...
[04:11] <Clint-> I am having a problem whenever i try and update or install anything related to cd buring or media playing it give me a error with nero linux i am running the newest ver of ubuntu
[04:11] <aesiamun> arooni: hold on, let me check something.
[04:11] <jared> could anyone help me with the step on http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/ which says to use recode?
[04:11] <jared> when I put in the command it says, it tells me  recode: adobe.reg failed: Untranslatable input in step `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968'
[04:11] <Trouty> I am trying to run Ubuntu live off the CD, but both Feisty Fawn Herd 5 and Edgy Eft tell me X Windows had a problem with xorg.conf, and refuses to run. It tells me "No Screens Found"
[04:11] <ubm> Artemis3 i use NSLU2/Debian for my linksys NSLU2 device
[04:11] <Z_Morek> how can I completely remove everything related to the lirc driver so I can start from scratch
[04:11] <Artemis3> thats cool
[04:12] <aesiamun> arooni: see if you can find a section called "InputDevice"
[04:12] <ubm> Artemis3 its awesome
[04:12] <arooni> aesiamun: i mean i see a section "dev/input/mice" listed but theres no Microsfot stuff
[04:12] <arooni> aesiamun: i see that!
[04:12] <aesiamun> arooni: it won't specifiy microsoft period
[04:12] <osotogari> hi all, im having trouble getting video to work in totem using Beryl. Im getting the blank video problem. Any help is much appreciated.
[04:12] <arooni> heh
[04:12] <ubm> Artemis3 you should check out http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ he has some great photos the guy is a freaking debian monster
[04:12] <arooni> aesiamun: ok so what should i do now
[04:12] <m4n> am using 6.06. it seems the laptop battery monitor has got some bug. While the laptop is working, if I connect the power, the monitor is not updating. Still showing 'Running on battery' Status
[04:12] <aesiamun> ok, want to have some real fun to see if it works?
[04:12] <arooni> absoultely
[04:12] <jared> Anyone here have Photoshop CS2 running on Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Clint-> m4n: what laptop
[04:13] <Wolvenhaven> is there a difference between the default install and using packet manager to get apache/mysql/php or should i just install as LAMP to begin with?
[04:13] <m4n> Clint-: this is HP
[04:13] <Clint-> i had the same problem
[04:13] <m4n> Clint-: nc6400
[04:13] <Pelo> jared,  I saw an howto on digg a few days ago
[04:13] <ubm> sucks though atm im waiting on RC2 as RC1 is broke :(
[04:13] <Zambezi> K3B, Nero Linux or burning in Windows?
[04:13] <Artemis3> i suppose you can serve torrents from it...
[04:13] <Clint-> i reinstalled ubuntu and it worked the 2nd install as did my wireless
[04:13] <jared> yeah I'm looking at a how to that was on digg (got like 16 diggs though) and I can't get past the recode step
[04:13] <aesiamun> arooni: drop to the console, hold down ctrl-alt and f1, when there log in as your user and type 'cat /dev/input/mice'  after hitting enter, move the ms mouse around a little.  If you get gobblygook ,then the system recognizes it.  To get back to Gnome, hold down alt and hit F7
[04:13] <ubm> Artemis3 yeah you can so much with them its nuts i really enjoy mine
[04:13] <BrendanM> arooni, you'll need a section like this in your xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8486/
[04:13] <jared> it gives me some weird eror like "untranslatable input in step blah blah blah"
[04:14] <ubuntu_no_worky> well gparted shows it as there
[04:14] <ubm> Atemis3 oh and very low power usage 15w i think
[04:14] <ubuntu_no_worky> is there a program that can mount it?
[04:14] <aesiamun> ah, evdev?
[04:14] <m4n> Clint-: now I have another problem. I thought of removing that applet and re-adding. I removed and now I cant see that applet to re-add :(
[04:14] <BrendanM> only the section for "device" will have to match with whatever your mouse is recognized as
[04:14] <aesiamun> never had to use that proto before.
[04:14] <jared> damn lokoing through comments and there are lots of people who have errors with recode, I wonder if someone posted a fix
[04:15] <Artemis3> i rarely use a device like that, always having the case open, etc...
[04:15] <arooni> BrendanM: i see this when i insert the mouse: [17186971.432000]  input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1.3
[04:15] <Pelo> ubuntu_no_worky,  you can mount it manualy,  but as far as auto mount you still need a mound point
[04:15] <arooni> BrendanM: so what should i put there for 'device'
[04:15] <ubuntu_no_worky> :c
[04:15] <aesiamun> crap vmware server is having issues on feisty.
[04:15] <ubuntu_no_worky> should I just get rid of my second hard drive and use it in windows?
[04:15] <Clint-> nerolinux is killing me
[04:15] <Pelo> ubuntu_no_worky,  just make a mount point
[04:16] <gar> why
[04:16] <ubuntu_no_worky> isn't there something which can do it for me automatically?
[04:16] <Pelo> does anyone know if I can make a repo  out of a folder  ?
[04:16] <Clint-> its giving me a eror
[04:16] <Clint-> error 2
[04:16] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know if this will be fixed in feisty?
[04:16] <Clint-> exception error
[04:16] <osotogari> hi all, im having trouble getting video to work in totem using Beryl. Im getting the blank video problem. Any help is much appreciated.
[04:17] <ubm> h-bomb hey bro glad you joined :)
[04:17] <h-bomb> :)
[04:17] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380501
[04:17] <Clint-> if someone got a sec
[04:17] <ubm> h-bomb how is that solarwinds package working out for you... :)
[04:17] <h-bomb> nicelly
[04:17] <BrendanM> arooni, there's a way to find out which device the mouse is recognized as. Let me try to look it up. Or if somebody knows? I think it's a cat /dev...something
[04:17] <Trouty> I don't mean to be pokey, but did anyone catch my problem or should I try to articulate it better?
[04:18] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know a program that will create mount points and mount your drives automatically?
[04:18] <Clint-> Trouty: i just restate the problem like every 5 mins
[04:18] <Wolvenhaven> lol me too
[04:18] <Wolvenhaven> no ones helped sofar :P
[04:18] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380501 <----- need some help
[04:18] <Clint-> Wolvenhaven: i can try
[04:18] <aesiamun> ubuntu_no_worky: wait, what's wrong with just editing fstab?
[04:18] <ubm> IndyGunFreak h-bomb is one of my friends here houston actually he is the one who got me to convert from fedora core over to ubuntu :P
[04:19] <aesiamun> fedora bugs me.
[04:19] <Clint-> as for the other problem i have no clue
[04:19] <Wolvenhaven> i want to know what the difference is between installing the default or choosing INSTALL AS LAMP for ubuntuserver
[04:19] <Pelo> Trouty,   sometimes no one can help,  I suggest you look up your hard ware in the forum
[04:19] <ubuntu_no_worky> thats to hard
[04:19] <ubuntu_no_worky> I like automatix
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: ok..
[04:19] <ubm> aesiamun no doubt
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: welcome..
[04:19] <aesiamun> what's automatix?
[04:19] <Clint-> not using server so i have no clue
[04:19] <Pelo> Trouty,  sometimes noone present can help ...
[04:19] <ubuntu_no_worky> the thing that installs everything for u
[04:19] <Artemis3> Clint-, nerolinux seems to be bothering
[04:19] <aesiamun> ubm:  i have to work with rpm distros all day...
[04:19] <Clint-> yes
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: if you like automatix, thats why your user name applies..lol
[04:19] <Clint-> god
[04:20] <ubuntu_no_worky> lol
[04:20] <Clint-> lol
[04:20] <ubm> IndyGunFreak this guys has more networking equipment than i've ever seen in my life.
[04:20] <jared> whats wrong with automatix?
[04:20] <Artemis3> so, purge it ;)
[04:20] <ubuntu_no_worky> automatix is fine indy
[04:20] <Clint-> i tried
[04:20] <ubuntu_no_worky> hehe
[04:20] <ubm> aesiamum are you a sys admin?
[04:20] <aesiamun> just install automatix
[04:20] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: thanks :)
[04:20] <Clint-> sudo apt-get remove
[04:20] <Clint-> and it errors
[04:20] <Wolvenhaven> lol so much for that 0_o
[04:20] <Clint-> lol
[04:20] <Trouty> I have two 7800 GTs and a Radeon 9200 in a PCI slot.  I am trying to run Ubuntu live off the CD and it tells me X could not load because of the warnings "No matching device section for instance" and the error "No screens found"
[04:20] <Clint-> same erroer
[04:20] <m4n> can anyone tell me how to work with data card on ubuntu
[04:20] <aesiamun> ubm: no software engineer...for an internal distribution of linux based on rhel4/5
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: i saw a funny pic online one time.. this guy was trying to organize this server room, it was hilarious, wires all over the place, it was a mess.
[04:21] <Wolvenhaven> why do you have 3 gfx cards?!
[04:21] <Clint-> 3/4 of all progs i try and install error and update dies cause of nero
[04:21] <Clint-> i need to remove nero i think but remove erroers
[04:21] <aesiamun> ubm: three letter computer company from the 60's...
[04:21] <Trouty> windows doesn't allow dual monitors with SLI enabled so I needed a third, but the problem occurs even if I just have one graphics card in
[04:21] <Clint-> i dont know its just crap
[04:21] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know a program that automatically mounts and creates mountpoints for your disks... surely their must be one... u can't expect n00bs to use the commandline
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: actually i've used automatix before also, and had no problems, but you'd swear you're Satans spawn from hell sent to destroy Ubuntu Linux if you bring it up here..lol
[04:21] <Wolvenhaven> yes ubuntu
[04:21] <ubuntu_no_worky> lol
[04:21] <ubuntu_no_worky> yeah
[04:21] <Wolvenhaven> there is
[04:21] <ubuntu_no_worky> so i notice
[04:21] <Wolvenhaven> its under admin controls
[04:21] <Wolvenhaven> hd's
[04:22] <Wolvenhaven> you rightclick on the hd
[04:22] <ubm> aesiamun oh i have something for you my friend you will enjoy this its a good read check out Numenta
[04:22] <Wolvenhaven> and hit mount or something like that
[04:22] <aesiamun> Numenta
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.
[04:22] <ubuntu_no_worky> where is admin controls?
[04:22] <Wolvenhaven> im not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure out the exact way
[04:22] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, supposedly EasyUbuntu is better than Automatix
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> look at the repositories as one big stable version of automatix..lol
[04:22] <Clint-> anyone
[04:22] <Clint-> ?
[04:22] <Artemis3> automatix or automatix2?
[04:22] <ubuntu_no_worky> automatix2
[04:22] <Clint-> how to remove nerolinux compeatly
[04:22] <aesiamun> ubm: is it a book?
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: i've not had probs out of either, but unless you want a tongue lashing...
[04:23] <BrendanM> arooni, try cat /proc/input/devices  see what it reports for your mouse
[04:23] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know where the admin tools are
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> Wolvenhaven: sorry...
[04:23] <Wolvenhaven> :P
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> good gracious i just screwed up my theme, brb.
[04:23] <Wolvenhaven> cause im looking at the install guide
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:23] <Wolvenhaven> and nothing there talks about the difference between default and LAMP
[04:23] <Clint-> i can pastebin it
[04:23] <ubm> aesiamun i dont want to ruin the experience for you. Its a company... You really need to check it out.
[04:23] <Artemis3> IndyGunFreak, its simply unsuported and at your own risk dont blame canonical for breaking your system, etc.
[04:24] <Artemis3> hehehe
[04:24] <aesiamun> ubm: going to numenta.com
[04:24] <aesiamun> BrendanM: cat /proc/devices
[04:24] <ubm> aesiamun check out the front page
 ubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.
 where is admin controls?
 im not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure
 ubuntu_no_worky: it is best to learn stuff on your own though, Automatix, EasyUbuntu, etc, they are ok, but its best to learn to do crap on your own.
 where is admin controls?
 im not booted in ubuntu right now or i would figure
[04:24] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380512
[04:24] <weebit> wow im glad no one told me i was a n00b when i installed linux for the first time and went straight to the command line.  lol  I would of been screwed.
[04:24] <IndyGunFreak> Trouty: thats what i told him,
[04:24] <Clint-> if someone can look
[04:24] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380512
[04:24] <aesiamun> ubm: lol nice
[04:24] <Clint-> nero is killing me
[04:24] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know of a program to set up your hard drives automatically
[04:24] <Wolvenhaven> trouty you didnt even take the whole thing
[04:24] <ubuntu_no_worky> ?
[04:24] <Artemis3> with coming festy the likes of automatix are getting less needed anyway, which is good imo
[04:25] <Wolvenhaven> i was talking about mounting a hd
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> I got nerolinux working
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> I had to make my own icon though
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> that was a pain
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> nerolinux?
[04:25] <Trouty> hm?
[04:25] <Chef> neurolinux?
[04:25] <Artemis3> making a .desktop file is a pain?
[04:25] <Trouty> that's weird....why did I just repeat saying that...nevermind
[04:25] <aesiamun> ubm: oooh they have downloadable software
[04:25] <BrendanM> Wolvenhaven, my understanding is that LAMP installs extra components
[04:25] <ubm> aesiamun that is every developers dream to capture the human brain and true AI ya know.
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> yeah
[04:25] <Artemis3> just copy it form another one ;)
[04:25] <ubm> aesiamun yes
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> there wasn't one to copy
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: is tha tlike Nero, the popular CD burning software
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> yes
[04:25] <Wolvenhaven> so its just extra components and not a different install?
[04:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> nerolinux off nero.com
[04:26] <Artemis3> oh, there are lots of em, locate .desktop ^^
[04:26] <ubm> aesiamun check it out you can also contribute as well plus i think they are hiring atm ;)
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: you know there's GnomeBaker and K3b, both very good CD burners in the repositories, that take about 10sec to install.
[04:26] <Wolvenhaven> thanks brendan
[04:26] <aesiamun> ubm: cool, thanks :)
[04:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> ewww
[04:26] <Wolvenhaven> if it doesnt work i can always ghost the drives :P
[04:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> gnomebaker and k3b are both unstable
[04:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> LOL
[04:26] <Dna^> hello
[04:26] <Artemis3> hehe, but that app should go into commercial
[04:26] <aesiamun> ubuntu_no_worky: nerolinux is no gift from god
[04:26] <cables> I can't stand nero, it pisses me off.
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: ?  I'm starting to think youre unstable..lol, gnomebaker has been flawless for me
[04:27] <BrendanM> arooni, did you find it?
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> i tried them
[04:27] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380512 anyone that can help
[04:27] <Artemis3> they dont seem unstable, but brasero is quite a backstabber
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> but both burned more coasters
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> than cds
[04:27] <cables> I love how Ubuntu can burn an ISO just by rightclicking on it.
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> nerolinux works great
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: i believe you... i just donm't undersstand why you were havin the issue.
[04:27] <cables> And copy a CD
[04:27] <Clint-> lol
[04:27] <Artemis3> what drive?
[04:27] <BrendanM> Or I guess they left already. *sigh*
[04:27] <crdlb> they all use cdrecord
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know a program to automount drives
[04:27] <Artemis3> i have lots of coasters thanks to brasero idiocy
[04:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> and mountpoints
[04:27] <aesiamun> oh well.
[04:27] <Clint-> jesus
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: what is brasero?
[04:27] <Artemis3> but in another machine it works perfectly
[04:27] <aesiamun> ubuntu_no_worky: what about autofs?
[04:27] <crdlb> !brasero
[04:27] <ubotu> brasero: CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 520 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[04:28] <vox754> !brasero
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> crdlb: oh ok.. thanks
[04:28] <Clint-> can someone tell me how to compleatly remove nero linux and then reinstall
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> surprising i've never used it... Gnomebaker has just always worked well for me
[04:28] <Clint-> cause even updating dont work
[04:28] <Dna^> somebody has tried to install counter-strike on ubuntu?
[04:28] <ubm> Clint- what repositories are you using?
[04:28] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[04:28] <Clint-> all 3
[04:28] <Clint-> universe multiverse
[04:28] <aesiamun> BrendanM: thanks...was looking for that
[04:28] <Clint-> and the other one
[04:29] <Artemis3> because gnomebaker uses cdrecord, which in turns doesnt handle multisession dvds, unless you used a patched cdrecord...
[04:29] <ubm> Clint- heh did you try forcing ?
[04:29] <aesiamun> gozillion
[04:29] <aesiamun> hehe
[04:29] <Clint-> how
[04:29] <Clint-> ?
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> Clint-: why don[t you just use gnomebaker?
[04:29] <Artemis3> instead, brasero uses growisofs which handles multisession dvds, but won't make pure udf...
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: this is true, but k3b, i'm pretty sure handles multisessions fine
[04:29] <BrendanM> he's not going to want to read it...
[04:29] <ubuntu_no_worky> YAY!!!!
[04:29] <ubuntu_no_worky> thankies
[04:29] <Artemis3> yes k3b is fine
[04:29] <Clint-> IndyGunFreak: my problem is the fact that 3/4 of the things i try to update or install fail with nero
[04:29] <Clint-> i dont like nero on linux or windows
[04:30] <aesiamun> BrendanM: autofs is fine, I use it all the time.  In fact, it took 2 seconds to enable /net for my nfs mounts
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> Clint-: i'm with you, i used a freebie off majorgeeks called DeepBurn under windows.
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> Clint-: update or install what?
[04:30] <Clint-> http://www.pastebin.ca/380512
[04:30] <Clint-> u see that
[04:30] <Clint-> that to remove
[04:30] <vox754> Artemis3, you mean it can split a DVD double layer into two single layer DVD?
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[04:30] <ubuntu_no_worky> where do I download it at?
[04:30] <Clint-> same error
[04:30] <Clint-> when i try and say install xgine
[04:30] <Artemis3> what? no thats another matter entirely
[04:30] <arooni> hey folks.....
[04:30] <Clint-> or any program using video or audio
[04:30] <BrendanM> I'm sure it's fine, but I get the strong feeling he wants a one-click, no CLI solution
[04:31] <bruenig> !enter | Clint-
[04:31] <ubotu> Clint-: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:31] <Clint-> lol
[04:31] <aesiamun> unfortunately he's in the wrong OS for that.
[04:31] <Clint-> ty for reminding me
[04:31] <ubm> Clint- the only way possible would be to grab the dependencies and compile from source then install ..
[04:31] <Artemis3> Clint-, because apt system is blocked by that partial nero install
[04:31] <arooni> my synaptics touchpas *used* to have this cool thing that if you moved up and down to the far right of it... it'd move the page up and down
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: yep
[04:31] <arooni> is there a way of doing htis now?
[04:31] <arooni> on linux?  (versus winbloz)
[04:31] <Clint-> well should i reinstall or is there a way to fix cause this has been from day 1
[04:32] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, type "sudo apt-get install autofs"
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> Clint-: how to fix... sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:32] <Clint-> will that overwrite nero
[04:32] <bruenig> nerolinux is a joke
[04:32] <cusco> dudes what is it that I must do to make gmplayer work
[04:32] <Artemis3> i think he needs to force purge the nero package before anything
[04:32] <bruenig> Clint-, seriously nerolinux is total garbage
[04:32] <cusco> it says no videooutput
[04:32] <ubm> nero is a joke period :)
[04:32] <Clint-> i know
[04:32] <Clint-> how do i get rid of it
[04:32] <TheVault> I got a question. Is there a program for ubuntu that is similar to the Mac OS X Dock?
[04:32] <Artemis3> there is a command line for it, probably with dpkg
[04:32] <Clint-> yes
[04:33] <BrendanM> TheVault, yes
[04:33] <bruenig> Clint-, was it a deb?
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: yeah, you can try searching nero in Synaptic Package Manager, then search for Nero, and mark for complete removal
[04:33] <ubuntu_no_worky> :c do i have to recompile my kernel?  seems harder than this fstab stuff
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: i think he sourced it..
[04:33] <TheVault> BrendanM: Whats the name?
[04:33] <ubm> TheVault hey man hows that wireless card working out?
[04:33] <gar> Can I run ubuntu on my ppc?
[04:33] <Clint-> it was either defualt installed or installed when i updated
[04:33] <marx2k> yup
[04:33] <marx2k> !ppc
[04:33] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.
[04:33] <TheVault> ubm: EXCELLENT!
[04:33] <Artemis3> gar, yes
[04:33] <BrendanM> TheVault, there are actually "docks" for Linux that perform very similarly. I've never used them, but just google around
[04:33] <cables> !ppc | gar
[04:33] <ubotu> gar: please see above
[04:33] <bruenig> if he sourced it, apt would not have problems
[04:33] <ubm> TheVault good deal man!
[04:33] <bruenig> unless he checkinstalled it
[04:33] <gar> above what
[04:33] <TheVault> Yeah, but I am on my desktop now UBM, installed it here
[04:33] <vox754> Clint-, you can always "rm" (remove) all files but that is kind of creepy.
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> Wireless, thats my next challenge, i've got dual displays, up, wireless is next.
[04:34] <Clint-> brurm -rf
[04:34] <Artemis3> gar hehe just try to use something not too old
[04:34] <Clint-> err rm -rf
[04:34] <Clint-> yes
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> but i'm gonna tke a break first.. 17hrs to get dual displays, it warped my noggin
[04:34] <BrendanM> TheValve, try this: http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Finally_A_Great_OSX_Like_Dock_For_Linux_Thanks_To_Google
[04:34] <Artemis3> no
[04:34] <Clint-> but i wanna system uninstall it
[04:34] <gar> is there a website dedicated to this sort of thing?
[04:34] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, how long have you been here? I'd say a month?
[04:34] <BrendanM> er, TheVault, not the TheValve. It's later
[04:34] <ubm> TheVault hehe just be careful linux is highly addictive and there is no cure :)
[04:34] <Artemis3> gar ppc support is official this place should do, or the forums
[04:34] <cables> gar, I assume you mean power pc not pocket pc...
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: somethin like that maybe a little longer.
[04:35] <gar> yeah powerpc
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: why do you ask?
[04:35] <TheVault> ubm: You got that right
[04:35] <bruenig> Clint-, yeah that isn't going to happen, you are just going to have to rm everything
[04:35] <gar> nooo
[04:35] <gar> I mean pocketpc
[04:35] <bruenig> Clint-, do you know where it installed?
[04:35] <Clint-> jesus
[04:35] <yonilevy> No1 knows? how come i don't have a /etc/modprobe.conf file?
[04:35] <Artemis3> gar no wait, i think they are ending it.... starting from feisty :(
[04:35] <Clint-> yes
[04:35] <ubm> TheVault now you can hang out in here with the rest of us and help people with the same issue :)
[04:35] <gar> a cell phone
[04:35] <Clint-> whereis nero
[04:35] <Clint-> shows me all
[04:35] <cables> gar, then nope.
[04:35] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, just curious. I installed Ubuntu on December, and got the wireless working on February.
[04:35] <gar> nooooo :(
[04:35] <TheVault> ubm: yuppers, but I am no professional
[04:35] <yonilevy> need help with /etc/modprobe.conf
[04:35] <ubm> Clint- try searching /usr/bin
[04:35] <bruenig> Clint-, then rm it
[04:36] <bruenig> it would probably be /usr/local/bin unless nero is stupid
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: lol... i've had Ubuntu since around Jul... but i think I first started coming here around early jan.. so its been a little over a month.
[04:36] <ubm> the sudo rm -Rf nero*
[04:36] <ubuntu_no_worky> how do I start autofs?  i installed it via synaptic but no icons?
[04:36] <Clint-> sec ill del all traces of nero
[04:36] <Artemis3> gar, until edgy you could simply install it as long as you have more than 64mb of ram (for alternate cd install)
[04:36] <gar> I've heard you can run the fedora core on it.
[04:36] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, try running "autofs" in terminal perhaps
[04:36] <ubuntu_no_worky> its a no go
[04:36] <TheVault> ubm: you on msn?
[04:36] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, yep, you are already a regular... good work!
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> gar: run FC on what?
[04:36] <ubuntu_no_worky> command not found
[04:36] <omegabeta> !ntfd
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <omegabeta> !ntfs
[04:37] <bruenig> Ubugtu, try au <tab> <tab>
[04:37] <Clint-> deleted
[04:37] <gar> ppc-6700 similar to this - http://shadowmite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1276
[04:37] <Clint-> in one line
[04:37] <Artemis3> 6700?
[04:37] <rpc> anyone fancy checking if this path exists on ubuntu? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
[04:37] <Artemis3> hmmm
[04:37] <ubm> TheVault nah not atm im about to leave my little brother's band is playing tonight promised i would show up...
[04:37] <arooni> my synaptics touchpas *used* to have this cool thing that if you moved up and down to the far right of it... it'd move the page up and down
[04:37] <vox754> Clint-, first update your database "sudo updatedb" then "sudo locate <file>" in your case "nero" or whatever specifics you have.
[04:37] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, this howto has tons of information: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[04:37] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, that was for you
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: well, 1.  I have no life... at all...lol.  2.  I broke my ankle about a week and a half ago, thus why i'ev been here close to 24hrs(and also why i was able to spend 17hrs working on dual displays w/o consequnce)
[04:37] <ubm> ill be back around beer 30 though :)
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:37] <TheVault> ubm: ahh ok...well have fun
[04:37] <BrendanM> arooni, you're back
[04:37] <arooni> also.... how do i get the equivalent of the 'kazaa lite codec pack' :P
[04:37] <ubuntu_no_worky> ugg...
[04:37] <arooni> BrendanM: yup
[04:37] <ubuntu_no_worky> surely to god someone wrote a program for noobs to set up a second harddrive
[04:38] <bruenig> !codecs | arooni
[04:38] <ubotu> arooni: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <ubuntu_no_worky> will feisty fix this?
[04:38] <omegabeta> Question: Is there a way to tranfer files from ubuntu  to ntsf/xp directory's? (so drag and drop from home to sbd1)
[04:38] <BrendanM> arooni, did you get the mouse working? Also, you'll probably want qsynaptics to help you configure the touchpad
[04:38] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, it is called mount
[04:38] <rpc> come on my lazy friends... anyone who can check this path for me? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ does it exist?
[04:38] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, did you mention about the foot before? I kind of remember that...
[04:38] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, learn it
[04:38] <ubm> TheVault if you need some help ask IndyGunFreak hehe
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: feisty will cause you more problems than it fixes..
[04:38] <gar> yeah, htc ppc6700
[04:38] <Artemis3> gar, that is not a powerpc
[04:38] <TheVault> Sure will ubm
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol
[04:38] <arooni> BrendanM: never got the mouse working
[04:38] <gar> I said pocketpc
[04:38] <gar> or that's what I meant, sorry
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: yeah, i might have in off-topic, if you're ever there.
[04:38] <BrendanM> TheVault, did you check this out: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/  it looks to be exactly what you want.
[04:38] <ubuntu_no_worky> lol... this is why linux is never gonna make it
[04:38] <ubm> IndyGunFreak im just waiting for you're fingers to fall off from all the typing you do :P
[04:38] <Clint-> sudo updatedb hangs up
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol, i'm a typin maniac
[04:39] <Artemis3> gar, ok, then no ubuntu supports x86 and x86-64 oonly
[04:39] <TheVault> BrendanM: I'll check that out now
[04:39] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, how hard is mount /dev/hdb /mount/point
[04:39] <Clint-> nvm
[04:39] <bruenig> seriously
[04:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> should this sort of thing be automatic like windows
[04:39] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, why because you have to read things to make your computer work?
[04:39] <arooni> BrendanM: once i install qsynaptics... do i use the system => settinsg => mouse
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: i'll tell you a funny story sometime about when I was a freshman in highschool, never had a typing class, what i did to my teacher
[04:39] <vox754> !offtopic > IndyGunFreak
[04:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> well yeah.... thats why windows became popular... over dos
[04:39] <bruenig> BrendanM, we all know people hate reading, see USA
[04:39] <BrendanM> arooni, no qsynaptics is its own program.
[04:39] <ubm> IndyGunFreak yeah you are true guru ill give ya that
[04:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> people don have 999999 hours to set this stuff up
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: of typing only
[04:39] <Clint-> vox754: okey i updated and located u want me to remove them all
[04:39] <Clint-> ?
[04:39] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, learning mount takes 2-3 min max
[04:39] <Q_Continuum> eck: So far so good.  Running slow, but running....
[04:39] <TheVault> BrendanM: Yeah, thats exactly what I was wanting, Thank you :)
[04:40] <ubuntu_no_worky> and setting up printers and burning programs and wine
[04:40] <BrendanM> TheVault, it looks so sweet it makes me wish I were running GNOME.
[04:40] <arooni> BrendanM: when i open it i see 'pleas install the synaptics touchpad driver'... how can i do this?
[04:40] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, setting up burning programs, you mean like "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker"
[04:40] <ubuntu_no_worky> and and fixing x when updates break it
[04:40] <bruenig> oh gees hard hard
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: i've suggested that like 4x
[04:40] <ubuntu_no_worky> like nerolinux because gnomebacker blows and only makes coasters
[04:40] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, wine is not a fair assault because you are running a non native program, of course there is going to be added problems
[04:40] <Clint-> vox754: okey i updated and located u want me to remove them all
[04:40] <vox754> Clint-, it takes time to update the database. You COULD try removing, but that is up to you. I've done it succesfully with small programs like ndiswrapper, but others may need dependencies, and there is where it may break.
[04:40] <bruenig> ubuntu_no_worky, nerolinux is a joke, I have used it, its functionality is nothing
[04:40] <ubm> IndyGunFreak let me know when you get that usb port installed in your head i want to know how it works out for you...  :P hahaha
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: he could install the "easy" cd burner.. sudo apt-get install k3b
[04:41] <ubuntu_no_worky> better to have something than just coasters
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: lol
[04:41] <BrendanM> arooni, there's a setting to change in xorg.conf. Lets get your USB mouse working first and then I'll help you with qsynaptics.
[04:41] <ubuntu_no_worky> k3b crashes too
[04:41] <bruenig> k3b is good, or just use cdrecord
[04:41] <bruenig> woo
[04:41] <Artemis3> what drive brand and model you have?
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_no_worky: i don't know then, you're other linux native apps are x-cdroast(which i hate), or gnomebaker
[04:41] <arooni> BrendanM: ok ... lets focus on the USB bluetooth mouse.... we have verfied that the mouse is detected when its inserted
[04:41] <ubuntu_no_worky> asus 1608p with latest firmware
[04:41] <arooni> BrendanM: whats the next step
[04:42] <ubuntu_no_worky> anywho
[04:42] <kalorin> so I suppose it'd be too much to ask if linux actually has a GUI interface for making software raids?
[04:42] <ubm> ok.. i really got to go now
[04:42] <gar> can I use samba in active directory?
[04:42] <ubuntu_no_worky> I hope feisty automounts drives...
[04:42] <ubuntu_no_worky> it think its silly not to
[04:42] <vox754> bruenig, just a small question, do you know what is ubotu's command that tells you if there is a specific nick in the channel?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> ubm_away: later
[04:42] <bruenig> !offtopic | ubuntu_no_worky go cry somewhere else seriously
[04:42] <ubotu> ubuntu_no_worky go cry somewhere else seriously: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:42] <Anohaakten> Hey everyone
[04:42] <bruenig> vox754, !seen whatever
[04:43] <arooni> how can list all commands i entered
[04:43] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, is it pata? is it alone in the cable?
[04:43] <bruenig> that does it for all freenode though I think
[04:43] <vox754> !seen bruenig
[04:43] <Anohaakten> Hey guys, can I get some help with installing ubuntu?
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen bruenig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: ubm is a good guy
[04:43] <Clint-> vox754: all are removed
[04:43] <bruenig> wha
[04:43] <vox754> bruenig, danke!
[04:43] <ubuntu_no_worky> sata
[04:43] <BrendanM> arooni, in the command-line, type "cat /proc/devices" and see if there's a reference to your USB mouse
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> Anohaakten: jus ask, if we can help, we all will
[04:43] <Artemis3> strange...
[04:43] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: yes he is :)
[04:43] <bruenig> perhaps they edited that out
[04:43] <Anohaakten> alrighty cool
[04:43] <vox754> Clint-, then good luck with whatever you are doing!
[04:43] <TheVault> later ubm
[04:43] <Clint-> lol
[04:43] <Clint-> lmao
[04:44] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: lol
[04:44] <Anohaakten> ok, so, I installed ubuntu version 6.10 but could not seem to get it to recognize my Linksys WPC54G wireless card
[04:44] <Clint-> hrmm
[04:44] <Anohaakten> I researched all over the net and I cannot seem to find a driver for it
[04:44] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless
[04:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:44] <arooni> BrendanM: have a look: http://pastie.caboo.se/44536
[04:44] <h-bomb> man
[04:44] <h-bomb> ill tell ya what
[04:44] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, what?! I'm always serious with what I suggest.
[04:45] <vox754> Anohaakten, WAIT, I have a link for you
[04:45] <Clint-> vox754:  ummm should i just reinstall?
[04:45] <Q_Continuum> eck: Live CD booted off the USB drive...we're doin good so far... :D
[04:45] <h-bomb> i love ubuntu, but the broadcom wireless support has got to get better
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> vox754: so am i, but sometimes, i just sense sarcasm..lol
[04:45] <kalorin> ok
[04:45] <omegabeta> Login: Panic :Trap :cpu0 "Operation illegal"
[04:45] <kalorin> opinions
[04:45] <h-bomb> its a freaking nightmare
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: i think i read somewhere, on a list of "goals" for feisty, one of them was to make wireless setup easier
[04:45] <dts> is there any OSS tools that come close to OneNote?
[04:45] <BrendanM> ubtunu_no_worky, I personally agree with you that all drives should always be automounted all the time (I can't imagine a time when I'd want a drive connected but not mounted?) but that's just not how Linux is, so you can either learn to deal with it, or write your own software to change it (isn't open source cool?).
[04:45] <Artemis3> they need the linux mint thingie
[04:46] <kalorin> I've got two 400gb SATA drives. I was going to mirror them in the bios, but now come to find out that's software raid and flaky at best, might as well do it in the kernel
[04:46] <Artemis3> of course you could install that package from their evil repo...
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: you ever tried LinuxMinut?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> LinuxMint
[04:46] <Artemis3> yes
[04:46] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, actually I got here late, so I have little clue of what this guy is doing.
[04:46] <kalorin> is it worth doing that, or would it be better to just partition out the other drive identically and dd things every day or so?
[04:46] <kelsin> Anohaakten: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[04:46] <eck> Q_Continuum: sounds promising
[04:46] <kalorin> cause then I'd get undelete so to speak
[04:46] <Artemis3> there is a gui thing that lets you use ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:46] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: i hope so, cause of the inability of dapper and edgy to work with my broadcom wireless on my dell lappy is the only thing keeping me from useing ubuntu on it
[04:46] <h-bomb> :(
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: is it pretty good?  I've heard its as good as ubuntu, jus don't have to worry about multimedia codecs, etc.
[04:46] <arooni> BrendanM: ok not sure what to do next
[04:46] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know how to automatically install and mount extra sata hardrives?
[04:46] <rotarised> Hello all. I would like to install a true-type font (.ttf file) on my freshly installed Edgy Eft. So I tried to paste and also drag the file into the 'Fonts' folder. But the font folder's paste command is greyed. So how do I go about installing a specific font?
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: if its got a broadcom chipset, it should work i think..
[04:47] <eck> ubuntu_no_worky: gnome should do that
[04:47] <vox754> Anohaakten, http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[04:47] <Artemis3> kind of its almost ubuntu with a couple of packages and different artwork
[04:47] <Artemis3> but it seems to be moving
[04:47] <BrendanM> arooni, did you type "cat /proc/devices"
[04:47] <kalorin> rotarised: sudo cp <font> <folder>
[04:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> hahah IT SHOULD shouldn't it ^_^
[04:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> I agree
[04:47] <kalorin> then sudo fc-cache -f -V <folder it was copied to>
[04:47] <Jarhead756> i was wondering, what will happen in dapper come daylight savings time? will it auto adjust?
[04:47] <eshaase> sorry if someone had already answered my question from before as I got disconnected but heres my problem: i'm setting up a somewhat complicated partitioning scheme using lvm and vgdisplay seems to incorreclty display the correct size of my volume groups, any ideas about how I should approach this?
[04:47] <eck> ubuntu_no_worky: can you do it manually?
[04:47] <rotarised> i think i tried that before. but i'll try again
[04:47] <omegabeta> Question : I have compiled Qt from scratch, installed the libs etc and i still get errors that i dont have Qt 25.<>4 lib-mt  what does this mean?
[04:47] <kalorin> jarhead, it's complaint with the new DST
[04:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> im too stupid
[04:48] <Jarhead756> kalorin: meaning?
[04:48] <kalorin> it's already set for the new DST stuff
[04:48] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: it does somewhat, like it took 3 hours of tinkering and howtos and whatnot just to get it to recognize, after that its very flaky, ie, wont connect half time, have to do everything manually via cli when i was to do anything such as scan, connect, etc, also it doesnt connect at the full speeds, max is 11mbps
[04:48] <BrendanM> ok, arooni, lemme look at your pastebin
[04:48] <eck> ubuntu_no_worky: check that the kernel can see the device (with dmesg) and then use the mount command
[04:48] <arooni> BrendanM: i did, take a look at input  http://pastie.caboo.se/44536
[04:48] <kalorin> at least 6.10 is
[04:48] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: half the time that doesnt work and i tryed on both dapper and edgy
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: hmm.
[04:48] <h-bomb> indeed
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> didn't realize it was that unstable.
[04:48] <ubuntu_no_worky> I can see it in gparted and device manager(aka viewer)
[04:48] <Artemis3> but i think feisty is including another gui for wireless setups, there is a problem with people roaming from manual config to dhcp enviroments..
[04:49] <Jarhead756> kalorin: when is dst?
[04:49] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: its very unstable
[04:49] <kalorin> march 11th
[04:49] <ubuntu_no_worky> isn't there a program for doing this automatically though?
[04:49] <Q_Continuum> eck: partitioning.  Looks like its gonna work fine. :D  *Dances*
[04:49] <eck> Q_Continuum: excellent :-)
[04:49] <vox754> ubuntu_no_worky, the installation automatically sets mount points and creates a proper "fstab" file, so don't complain about that; if you want to add more drives that is not hard, just give me a second.
[04:49] <Jarhead756> kalorin: so will it auto adjust?
[04:49] <h-bomb> Artemis3: indeed
[04:49] <Q_Continuum> eck: Followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> h-bomb: maybe i'll put off learning wireless w/ ubuntu until Ubuntu 12.09 "Kooky Kangaroo".. :)
[04:49] <omegabeta> Question: Is there a way to tranfer files from ubuntu  to ntsf/xp directory's? (so drag and drop from home to sbd1)
[04:49] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: i would reccomend that
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> i think by then they'll have it figured out.
[04:49] <h-bomb> IndyGunFreak: at least with broadcom wireless chipsets
[04:50] <Q_Continuum> eck: Now I have to find a (smaller) flash drive that is mine (not my roommate's) that I can leave this on :P
[04:50] <Artemis3> hahaha kooky?
[04:50] <h-bomb> rofl
[04:50] <Dr_willis> omegabeta,  thers ways to read/write to ntfs. (not adviseable) and windowsxp can read/write to ext2/3 partitions
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: it was the only thing i could come up with quick
[04:50] <ubuntu_no_worky> i installed edgy with this drive in the machine :c
[04:50] <Dr_willis> with the right tools
[04:50] <Dr_willis> !ifs
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Dr_willis> !ext2
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[04:50] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:50] <Artemis3> it seems to follow the pattern just fine
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: isn't that the truth!
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: I'm convinced the next one is gonna be "Grump Gorrilla"
[04:50] <ubuntu_no_worky> !just work
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Grumpy, that is.
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about just work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> hahahah
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> !justwork
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> roflao
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Flacculating Fawn
[04:51] <BrendanM> ok, arooni, I think I found it. Try this "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"
[04:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> LOL
[04:51] <Artemis3> nope, f is already taken
[04:51] <h-bomb> !supportbroadcomwirelesschipsets
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Flaming Flamingo
[04:51] <Anohaakten> guys do they ahve itunes for linux? (ubuntu)
[04:51] <Artemis3> its g alright
[04:51] <h-bomb> lol
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Anohaakten: i don't think so.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Gyrating Giraffe
[04:51] <vox754> Anohaakten, search the forums for WPC54G http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324967&highlight=WPC54G
[04:51] <Anohaakten> alright, thakn you
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: lol
[04:52] <snaef999> hey can somebody help me with an apt update issue?  Ive been away from Ubuntu for a while, but now im back and am trying to do an update and all the sources fail to download.  Can anybody help?
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> Goofy Gopher
[04:52] <Artemis3> ganguro girl? oh that doesnt count ;)
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Guano Girl? eww
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> !itunes | Anohaakten
[04:52] <ubotu> Anohaakten: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[04:53] <vox754> h-bomb, look here http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[04:53] <Artemis3> hehe no no, that was a japanese fashion of darkening the skin and using yellow hair ^^
[04:53] <h-bomb> vox754: ok
[04:53] <vox754> Anohaakten, your version is important WPC54G v.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 there are many.
[04:53] <doff> !ping
[04:53] <ubotu> pong
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Artemis3,  that describes my wifes last trip to the beauty saloon
[04:54] <arooni> BrendanM: i did, take a look at input  http://pastie.caboo.se/44536
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:54] <arooni> BrendanM: i think we're talkin about :  Product=Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000
[04:54] <kalorin> so anyone got any thoughts on raid mirroring in the kernel or doing a dd to start and then rsyncing after that?
[04:54] <Artemis3> ^^!
[04:54] <h-bomb> vox754: hmm i wonder if that will solve all the instability issues with it and restore the speed from 11mbps to 54
[04:54] <Jarhead756> anyone try the new version of wine? any interesting updates?
[04:54] <Lazergunz> How do I set XMMS as my default media player?
[04:54] <kalorin> the rsync method obviously gives me "undelete" or sorts
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:55] <vox754> h-bomb, you mean, it works but not as fast?
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> then right click(say an mp3), choose properties, permissions, an choose xmms
[04:55] <kalorin> jarhead: it almost sort of allowed me to install photoshop elements 4 the other night
[04:55] <kalorin> but crashed when it got ready to copy files to the harddisk
[04:55] <BrendanM> arooni, that looks good. One more, try "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" and look for the line that says "Handlers =" associated with your mouse
[04:55] <h-bomb> vox754: when it works, half the time it doesnt, extremely unstable
[04:55] <kalorin> so no idea if it'd work or not
[04:55] <Jarhead756> Anohaakten: you may want to take a look at songbird (just like itunes almost) but i like amarok better.
[04:55] <arooni> what is the shortcut to copy and paste from my console?
[04:55] <yeahlolgfsdf> help
[04:55] <yeahlolgfsdf> how do I use IRC?
[04:55] <Jarhead756> kalorin: got any clue about cs2?
[04:56] <eck> arooni: highlight and middle click
[04:56] <kalorin> I've heard it does that, but I don't have a copy
[04:56] <Jarhead756> yeahlolgfsdf: you're using it right now aren't you?
[04:56] <eck> also shift insert
[04:56] <kalorin> if I did I'd know
[04:56] <arooni> BrendanM: ok the one frot the mouse is: H: Handlers=kbd mouse3 event6 ts2
[04:56] <Artemis3> arooni, anything selected is already copied if you use middle button it is pasted
[04:56] <doff> arooni, ctrl+insert = ctrl+c, shift+insert = ctrl+v
[04:56] <kalorin> cause that's the one single app that I really wish more than any others ran under linux
[04:56] <yeahlolgfsdf> yeah...but I completely new to it
[04:56] <Jarhead756> kalorin: what do you mean you heard it?
[04:56] <kalorin> in fact, I have vmware installed just because of that ;(
[04:56] <kalorin> I've heard of folks having good luck with wine and cs2
[04:56] <arooni> wow
[04:56] <arooni> H: Handlers=mouse1 event5 ts1
[04:56] <kalorin> I don't own it
[04:56] <Dr_willis> yeahlolgfsdf,  thers this stuff called 'documention' :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> !irc
[04:56] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[04:57] <yeahlolgfsdf> right...
[04:57] <Jarhead756> anyone know for a fact if photoshop cs2 works within newest version of wine?
[04:57] <arooni> does that middle click thing work *anywhere* in linux
[04:57] <BrendanM> arooni, fantastic. so in your xorg.conf, you'll want to add the section that I gave you before, only for "Device" put mouse1
[04:57] <yeahlolgfsdf> where is that documentation
[04:57] <BrendanM> arooni, because mouse1 is one of the names Linux is using to address your mouse
[04:57] <doff> btw how can I install direct 3d wine version? wha'ts the name of the package?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> doff: ? direct 3d wine version
[04:58] <Artemis3> try photoshop alternatives like gimp and krita
[04:58] <doff> yes
[04:58] <kalorin> krita?
[04:58] <arooni> BrendanM: ok i made that chage.... what should i do now
[04:58] <Artemis3> yah
[04:58] <h-bomb> vox754: i also dont like how i have to manaully change the accesspoints and passphrases in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf everytime, im always going to different places with my laptop, extremely inconvient (sp)
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> krita?
[04:58] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know a way to automount and automatically make mountpoints?
[04:58] <doff> IndyGunFreak, something like winex but there's no such package
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> !krita
[04:58] <Artemis3> ...
[04:58] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB
[04:58] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: I don't want to install XMMS, I want to set it as a default to open media files of its type. I.e .mp3 :)
[04:58] <vox754> Attention everyone, "ndiswrapper 1.38" is out now.
[04:58] <arooni> i.e. mouse still aint workin :(
[04:58] <Anohaakten> ugh, why cant linux just make it simple to install a driver...ugh
[04:58] <techie> can anybody help? How do you deal with the browser resolution. Somehow, though subtle, it seems that the screen is a bit "fuzzy" any recommended fonts or settings for the firefox browser? Thanks.
[04:58] <BrendanM> arooni, were you able to save xorg.conf? You'll want to restart the x-server, I think it's ctrl+alt+backspace, right?
[04:58] <Anohaakten> you have to do everything in terminal?
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: right click an mp3.. choose properties, then Permissions, then choose Xmms
[04:59] <yeahlolgfsdf> can someone help me install ubuntu?
[04:59] <doff> !wine
[04:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:59] <Artemis3> Anohaakten, its simple, you don't. If something is not supported, the manufacturer never released specs of it
[04:59] <Anohaakten> well...I need to install a driver for my wireless internet...
[04:59] <jared> yeahlolgfsdf: what do you need help with?
[05:00] <vox754> Anohaakten, did you followed the links for the wireless card? can you give more info?
[05:00] <Anohaakten> for my wpc54g
[05:00] <yeahlolgfsdf> well I have a LiveCD
[05:00] <Anohaakten> sure did vox
[05:00] <yeahlolgfsdf> of ubuntu
[05:00] <Anohaakten> its reaaaaaaaaaaaal confusing to a linux rookie
[05:00] <jared> ok
[05:00] <Anohaakten> since I do not know linux code
[05:00] <jared> have you booted off it yet?
[05:00] <vox754> ubuntu_no_worky, go to #vocx
[05:00] <yeahlolgfsdf> and I want to install it...i run it under safe graphics mode,because I can't run it in install mode because of a X server problem
[05:00] <eck> Anohaakten: if its not included with ubuntu it probably doesn't exist for your hardware
[05:00] <doff> yeahlolgfsdf,  I think everybody installed it from live cd or it's image :D
[05:00] <vox754> Anohaakten, go to #vocx
[05:00] <Anohaakten> whats there?
[05:00] <eck> Anohaakten: or else the driver is non-free and cannot be distributed
[05:00] <Glench> eck: au contraire
[05:00] <Glench> I'm having my owns et of wireless problems
[05:01] <Glench> s/owns et/own set
[05:01] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: Thanks :)
[05:01] <Artemis3> Anohaakten, cannot be helped if the manufacturer doesnt cooperate, by not released specs or a driver...
[05:01] <eck> well, the point is, that any drivers that aren't in mainline are essentially unsupported
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: no sweat
[05:01] <techie> any way to make user names appear on xchat sidebar next to where I am writing?
[05:02] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: Perhaps you know how I can rid of an ATI driver :P ?
[05:02] <yeahlolgfsdf> can anyone help me with a x-server problem in a ubuntu installation
[05:02] <Glench> anyone know what I should blacklist under modprobe to get the usb wireless card I have to show up instead of Wired (wlan0)?
[05:02] <cerberus> Hey guys, I'm having trouble compiling a webcam driver. A number of errors occure and I've put up the output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8489/ for anyone to look over. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[05:02] <doff> techie, well if you've installed gnome-xchat it's very old version
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: can you search synaptic, say for "ATI".. and see if it shows up there?  it probably will.
[05:02] <techie> yes it is. doff what do you recommend
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> then just right click /mark for removal...
[05:02] <doff> techie, download from here http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: whats wrong with the ATI driver?
[05:03] <yeahlolgfsdf> could anyone help me with a x server problem in the gaim installation
[05:03] <doff> techie, and uninstall your current version ;)
[05:03] <yeahlolgfsdf> I nmean
[05:03] <yeahlolgfsdf> ubuntu
[05:03] <yeahlolgfsdf> sorry
[05:03] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: Long story short, I dont use ATI i use Nvidia... :P
[05:03] <vox754> !pastebin > Anohaakten
[05:04] <kalorin> nothing wrong wtih my ATI support that I've seen
[05:04] <techie> doff once I download this file how do I open this> or do I do it through the synaptic package?
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: yah, ::waterboy:: "Ma'ma says ATI is the Devil!:::waterboy::
[05:04] <kalorin> it' a wee bit bumpy for a first time install, after that though it seems to work just fine
[05:04] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: >.<
[05:04] <doff> techie, so directly you need http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/xchat_2.6.8-1ubuntu1_i386.deb just double click it and it will be ok)
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: it should be in Synaptic if you installed it properly, i would think anyways.
[05:05] <doff> techie, push install
[05:05] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: nah it's not there =/
[05:05] <yeahlolgfsdf> could anyone help me with a X server problem in the ubuntu installation
[05:05] <Artemis3> cerberus, make sure you do a chown -R username:group to the folder with the code, and check permissions, might as well do chmod -R u+xr * inside the folder
[05:05] <Lazergunz> IndyGunFreak: It's in the applications menu though.
[05:06] <kalorin> lazerguns, set it to look around more
[05:06] <Artemis3> cerberus, other than that, check what the source depends on...
[05:06] <techie> doff, how do I uninstall the old one... meaning where do i do that... sort of new still in here!
[05:06] <Ltar> #debian_chatter
[05:06] <h-bomb> anyways, i also run ubuntu on a server at home as my monitor server, runs solid has dapper on it, i run cacti, munin, monit, smokeping, mysql
[05:06] <nalioth> !ask | yeahlolgfsdf
[05:06] <ubotu> yeahlolgfsdf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <kalorin> specifically settings -> repositories -> 1st, 2nd, 3rd boxes checked
[05:06] <kalorin> then run an update and look again
[05:06] <doff> techie, from where did you installed it. synaptic is ok
[05:06] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automatically set up a ext3 sata drive without recompiling kernels or editing fstabs
[05:06] <techie> ok thanks I will try it.
[05:06] <yeahlolgfsdf> !ask
[05:07] <techie> doff which version is the one I downloaded now... do you know?
[05:07] <cerberus> Artemis3, No difference at all. The files listed as unable to find aren'
[05:07] <yeahlolgfsdf> !ask          could some help me troubleshoot with a X server problem in the ubuntu instllation
[05:07] <techie> I will go and try it now and see what happens.
[05:07] <techie> thanks.
[05:07] <techie> doff thanks.
[05:07] <doff> go)
[05:07] <BrendanM> ubuntu_no_worky, you've asked that question like 11 times now. People have given you all kinds of answers, and tried to be nice about it. Go RTFM. Seriously.
[05:07] <swanfl> anyone know where I can get help with frostwire?
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> Lazergunz: sorry, i don't really have much of a suggestion
[05:07] <cerberus> Artemis3, No difference at all. The files listed as unable to find aren't in the directory and to be honest I can't find them anywhere, can't find anywhere to install them from either
[05:08] <Errpast1> I keep getting asked for a CUPS password
[05:08] <ubuntu_no_worky> i have
[05:08] <iRock> Hello, I am having problems with my new ATi card
[05:08] <Errpast1> I ran lppasswd, and set my username and password
[05:08] <Errpast1> CUPS is still asking me for password
[05:08] <Errpast1> root password doesn't work either
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> oops, wrong X
[05:09] <Errpast1> How do I get past this password issue with CUPS?
[05:09] <doff> Errpast1, try admin password
[05:10] <Artemis3> cerberus, you sure is not depending in some kernel headers or something? you have the build-essential installed?
[05:10] <iRock> I just installed the VisionTek x1300, tried booting up edgy, but it sticks at the bootsplash. Strange, as Ubuntuworks flawlessly on my Intel i810 integrated card
[05:10] <Errpast1> doff, hmmmm. now it takes me to this URL
[05:10] <yeahlolgfsdf> could someone help me with a x server problem
[05:10] <Errpast1> http://localhost:631/admin/?op=start-printer&printer_name=HL2070N
[05:10] <yeahlolgfsdf> in ubuntu
[05:10] <kalorin> irock
[05:10] <Errpast1> but doesn't draw anyting on page
[05:10] <kalorin> !ati
[05:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <BrendanM> *yawn*, I'm going to sleep. If arooni comes back, somebody tell him/her to add "SMHConfig" "On" to xorg.conf in order to qsynaptics to work.
[05:11] <Errpast1> I'm running 6.06
[05:11] <Errpast1> Is CUPS better in 6.10
[05:11] <sureshot> hey could someone give me the syntax on how to remove a directory with subs
[05:11] <sureshot> please
[05:11] <Artemis3> rm -r
[05:11] <covert> where should i enter glitches i have found regarding the feisty installer?
[05:11] <kalorin> sureshot, man rm
[05:11] <Glench_> so anyone want to help with wireless problems?
[05:11] <yeahlolgfsdf> could someone HELP ME INSTALL UBUNTU
[05:11] <sureshot> Artmis3 thanks alot man
[05:12] <kalorin> yeahlolgfsdf, www.microsoft.com
[05:12] <Artemis3> np
[05:12] <doff> Errpast1, sorry I'm rather new to linux even don't know what is CUPS;) but I don't think it's better in edgy (6.10)
[05:12] <kevcast> How can I delete an account in Thunderbird when there's no account settings under Tools?
[05:12] <Toma-> anyone know when ubuntu gaming arena will be back up?
[05:12] <cerberus> Artemis3, the hearder files are installed but I can't find the mentiond files anywhere
[05:12] <maarten> yeahlolgfsdf: Burn the ISO on a CD or DVD, then boot from it. Follow instructions on the screen :)
[05:12] <sureshot> kalorin was not sure that was the command and i am in such a bind at the moment thanks again
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone recommend a slideshow/presentation tool that's lighter weight than OpenOffice.org's Impress?
[05:12] <Charly> rm -r <path>
[05:12] <Tremblor> does anyone have a minimum requirements? I want to put ubuntu on an oldish laptop
[05:12] <Artemis3> cups is the common unix printing system, something to make it easy to use printers :P
[05:12] <BrendanM> Errpast1, CUPS is a web-based printer configuration. Everyone hates it (apparently)
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> yes
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> I know
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> but
[05:13] <kalorin> sure
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> I have a problem
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> with x server
[05:13] <maarten> whats that?
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> during the installation
[05:13] <Artemis3> well both gnome and kde are using cups clients to it when you use the nice add printer thingie
[05:13] <covert> does anyone know where i can report feisty errors?
[05:13] <yeahlolgfsdf> Maarten could you please reply back?
[05:13] <kalorin> yeahlolgfsdf, seriously
[05:13] <kalorin> !ati
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:13] <kalorin> READ
[05:13] <Toma-> !launchpad | convert
[05:13] <ubotu> convert: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:13] <kalorin> it's that simple
[05:13] <BrendanM> Tremblor, you might try Xubuntu. It runs really well on older hardware.
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Tremblor: 3 GB HD, 192 MB RAM, ~500 MHz Proc would be my guess for default.  You can go lower too.
[05:13] <Errpast1> BrendanM, I'm just trying to get a brother 2070 laser printer installed
[05:13] <maarten> what is the problem? (I am a linux novice, but who knows)
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> !xfce
[05:13] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:13] <Errpast1> 2 hours and no luck
[05:14] <Errpast1> took me 5 minutes with Vista
[05:14] <__mikem> How do I ad a folder to the bash shell search path?
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Xubuntu is awesome
[05:14] <h-bomb> lol
[05:14] <Artemis3> xubuntu is good when ram is low ;)
[05:14] <Errpast1> I hate to gripe, but that's the facts
[05:14] <yeahlolgfsdf> well how I do troubleshoot with a x server problem
[05:14] <maarten> I installed Xunbuntu on a P2, 350 Mhz with 256 Mb - it ran fairly well. (That PC was dumped though a month back)
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Artemis3: actually, Xubuntu is pretty good even if you have a robust system... its about as bare minimum as Ubuntu can be
[05:14] <kalorin> bash search path, edit the /etc/environment file
[05:14] <Tremblor> ram isn't my big problem, i don't need speed per say, i want to turn my old laptop into a little linux machine
[05:14] <Artemis3> (or when you rather use your ram for something else)
[05:14] <BrendanM> I'm running Xubuntu on PIII w/128 M of RAM and it flies
[05:14] <__mikem> thanks kalorin
[05:14] <kalorin> sure
[05:15] <Errpast1> IndyGunFreak, two hours later, and I can't get Brother printer to work
[05:15] <kalorin> I've got xbuntu on an athlon 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram
[05:15] <Tremblor> thanks maarten, my lappy is a bit faster than that, but not much
[05:15] <maarten> yeahlolgfsdf: what graphics card do you have?
[05:15] <Errpast1> Took me 5 minutes with Vista
[05:15] <kalorin> even with a 384meg vmware image of windows XP running it doesn't even hit swap
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: sorry man, i know squat about printer support/linux...
[05:15] <Errpast1> hmm, I think I'll visit www.hardashell.com, as you suggested :)
[05:15] <kalorin> with mail/web/remote desktop/vmware and so on going
[05:15] <Artemis3> its ok i have used xfce and xubuntu even on old imacs
[05:15] <badfinger> yeahlolgfsdf - in an xterm type 'sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:15] <kalorin> even runing yahoo messenger
[05:15] <Errpast1> IndyGunFreak, that's ok, you're funny
[05:15] <Errpast1> :)
[05:15] <jared> i got a lexmark printer working on Ubuntu
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: but the question is, who do you blame for that?.. Linux creators/writers/programme3rs, etc.. or the Printer manufacturer, for not having Linux drivers?
[05:15] <Toma-> Errpast1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68403&page=2
[05:15] <jared> it took real long
[05:15] <badfinger> yeahlolgfsdf - correction. sudo
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: i try man, i try..
[05:16] <jared> and was annoying
[05:16] <jared> but I got it working!
[05:16] <Tremblor> the only thing i was worried about was that i have gps mapping stuff for windows on my lap that i use when going on trips, but a quick search found me some nice linux alternatives
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> this room needs a little levity sometimes
[05:16] <Errpast1> Toma-, I'll give a try.  I think I tried it already though.  thanks
[05:16] <kalorin> Errpast1, I'd love to help with it, but I simply don't print much of anything and haven't bothered to set up printing
[05:16] <yeahlolgfsdf> I'll give it a  go
[05:16] <yeahlolgfsdf> I use a ATI graphics card
[05:16] <kalorin> I'd suggest googling around for a while
[05:16] <kalorin> yeahlolgfsdf,
[05:16] <kalorin> !ati
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <kalorin> tells you exactly what to do
[05:16] <badfinger> yeahlolgfsdf - so do i.
[05:16] <cerberus> does anyone know where to find the v4l headers? google is so far turning up a blank
[05:16] <__mikem> kalorin how do I get the changes to take affect?
[05:17] <kalorin> and you have to do it twice, once for the install and then once after you boot
[05:17] <kalorin> mikem, leave X and come back in
[05:17] <__mikem> okay
[05:17] <__mikem> brb
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: when you get to around 16-17hrs into configuring, then you can complain, you've barely scratched the surface at 2hrs!.. :)  I was about ready to put my head through one of my monitors earlier, ala Nightmare on Elm Street
[05:17] <maarten> I have a ATI, worked with no problem. There is a text-install option though from the boot menu I believe if X don't work
[05:17] <yeahlolgfsdf> I see
[05:17] <Errpast1> IndyGunFreak, good point.  :)
[05:17] <Artemis3> well i didnt do anything with a radeon 9600 it simply worked with the open drivers
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: what kind of printer?
[05:17] <yeahlolgfsdf> could someone give me a guide on the net ,for just a general introduction to ubuntu and linux
[05:17] <DWRZ> Hey...is this the right place to ask questions for OpenOffice support? Sorry, first time using IRC
[05:18] <Toma-> Errpast1: oh ok. you will want gutenprint installed. the HL-2070N is fully supported by cups and gutenprint. should be a click-tastic install tbh.
[05:18] <Errpast1> Toma-, yes.  that is a clear link.  I followed it about an hour ago.  still no luck
[05:18] <jared> I guess you could ask about open office if you wanted
[05:18] <Errpast1> Toma-, cool.  do I apt-get install gutetnprint
[05:18] <Toma-> Errpast1: ok, well whats the issue? is it getting seen?
[05:18] <yeahlolgfsdf> just like general guide for a general users functionality
[05:18] <Charly> yeahlolgfsdf, try http://ubuntuguide.org
[05:18] <DWRZ> I'm just wondering two things...first, how to center the page (not the text, the page), second is how to add page numbers
[05:18] <maarten> yeahlolgfsdf: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:18] <IndyGunFreak> Errpast1: probably won't hurt..lol
[05:18] <maarten> yeah that one :P
[05:18] <__mikem> kalorin, thanks
[05:19] <kalorin> or wikipedia
[05:19] <Errpast1> Toma-, yes, I see it.  But can't print a test page.
[05:19] <kalorin> mike, no sweat, was doing exactly that 4 hours ago
[05:19] <yeahlolgfsdf> thanks
[05:19] <techie> doff u there?
[05:19] <Toma-> Errpast1: any errors or just garbage getting printed?
[05:19] <kalorin> it's maddening, most other systems actually read the .bash_profile
[05:19] <jared> give me a sec DWRZ and I'll see if I can find out
[05:19] <iRock> kalorin: Okay, time to see if this will work. :)
[05:19] <doff> drivers (ati, nvidia), codecs (mp3, all windows, dvd etc.), ms fonts and other cookies go easy with this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:19] <__mikem> now I have a place to put my own commands
[05:19] <kalorin> good luck irock
[05:19] <Errpast1> Toma-, nothing.
[05:19] <Errpast1> I ran
[05:19] <doff> techie, yes. how's your new xchat version?
[05:19] <DWRZ> thanks!! :)
[05:19] <kalorin> mike, I always add . and ~/bin
[05:20] <TopDogAPB1> alright guys, thanks for all the help earlier, my latest problem involves limewire, I've got all the way to where it is installed, and I'm trying to gedit a file, but I don't have permission to edit the file, and when I go to change permissions to edit, its says I'm not the owner, and I am. How do I fix this?
[05:20] <yeahlolgfsdf> do you guys type ou/C/P t the IRC screenames or is there a command
[05:20] <jared> centering the page is very easy actually
[05:20] <Errpast1> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/cupsys /etc/init.d/cups
[05:20] <Errpast1> sudo dpkg -i brhl2070nlpr_1.1.2-3_i386.deb
[05:20] <Errpast1> sudo dpkg -i cupswrapperhl2070n_1.0.0-1_i386.deb
[05:20] <yeahlolgfsdf> out*
[05:20] <techie> doff I had to do it through the synaptic because downloadiing directly it did not work for me.
[05:20] <Errpast1> that's what I ran.
[05:20] <jared> are you in the Open Office Writer (thing thats like word)
[05:20] <jared> ?
[05:20] <DWRZ> I've googled but no luck to be honest
[05:20] <DWRZ> yep
[05:20] <techie> the new version though 2.66 is terrific
[05:20] <Toma-> yeahlolgfsdf: in xchat, type the first couple letters then hit TAB
[05:20] <Errpast1> Toma-, from the link you showed me.
[05:20] <jared> ok do you see the 3 A's?
[05:20] <kalorin> ok brains
[05:20] <DWRZ> yes
[05:20] <jared> bold underlined and italic?
[05:20] <techie> doff, it is terrific thanks.
[05:20] <jared> ok becide that there are a bunch of square with lines in them
[05:20] <sureshot> i am compileing a libcap library.. it says that lex is insufficiant .. i dl flex and installed but to no avail any thoughts
[05:20] <Toma-> Errpast1: try not to past. you dont NEED those installed tbh. it should be installed already
[05:20] <DWRZ> yep
[05:20] <jared> the one on the far left is to the left
[05:20] <kalorin> anyone know of a good program for doing canon raw -> adobe digital negative format conversions under linux?
[05:20] <jared> the one beside it is centered
[05:21] <DWRZ> yep, but that's for the text...
[05:21] <techie> doff in this new version, how do you make the people's names appear on the side
[05:21] <kalorin> well there's a windows program, I guess I could TRY to wine it
[05:21] <jared> wait
[05:21] <DWRZ> i want to center the page
[05:21] <DWRZ> ok
[05:21] <enix> can anyone here help me w/ using gimp?
[05:21] <maarten> Hey, is it better to install the ATI drivers from ATI, or are the ones that came with Ubuntu good enough for a 9700 Pro?
[05:21] <jared> oh!
[05:21] <Toma-> kalorin: convert might do it
[05:21] <jared> lol
[05:21] <techie> doff. how do you set it?
[05:21] <yeahlolgfsdf> how do I use cywgin ,could someone give me a guide?
[05:21] <DWRZ> :)
[05:21] <eck> kalorin: if there is a program that could do it, it would be imagemagick
[05:21] <kalorin> k
[05:21] <jared> uh... what exactly do you mean by "center the page"?
[05:21] <Errpast1> Toma-, sorry about paste
[05:21] <Toma-> yeahlolgfsdf: cygwin isnt ubuntu. try the cygwin channel
[05:21] <doff> techie, isn't it not on the side yet? I had it on the side just when I installed the new version
[05:21] <DWRZ> sorry to use this comparison, but in MS word the page (where the text is on) is diplayed in the center of the screen
[05:21] <Errpast1> Toma-, is gutenprint something I need to install. I will go Google it.;\
[05:22] <DWRZ> right now, the page is displayed to the left of the screen
[05:22] <techie> doff, not yet
[05:22] <doff> but I didn't see this version in synaptic
[05:22] <Toma-> Errpast1: ive removed printing from this system so i cant test it, but i think its System > Admin > Printing... then Add Printer?
[05:22] <techie> it must be set
[05:22] <yeahlolgfsdf> what's the cygwin channel?
[05:22] <Artemis3> try your games and see, the less you use the closed binaries, the better imo, Some cards have no choice.
[05:22] <jared> oh ok..
[05:22] <DWRZ> does that make sense?
[05:22] <Toma-> Errpast1: its in synaptic. easy install.
[05:22] <jared> yeah
[05:22] <Toma-> yeahlolgfsdf: im guessing #cygwin
[05:22] <sureshot> i am compileing a libcap library.. it says that lex is insufficiant .. what does this mean
[05:22] <jared> you could always minimize the window so that the page is in the center than move that to the center of your screen :P
[05:22] <techie> doff but this is so good that I am impressed and I will figure it out
[05:22] <yeahlolgfsdf> yeah..
[05:22] <yeahlolgfsdf> makes sense
[05:22] <techie> eventually
[05:22] <DWRZ> haha
[05:22] <TopDogAPB1> alright guys, thanks for all the help earlier, my latest problem involves limewire, I've got all the way to where it is installed, and I'm trying to gedit a file, but I don't have permission to edit the file, and when I go to change permissions to edit, its says I'm not the owner, and I am. How do I fix this?
[05:22] <doff> techie, ok one minute I'll look through config file
[05:22] <DWRZ> i guess, but i'm looking for a long term fix if it exists
[05:23] <enix> all i want to do is draw a rectangle, more like a frame, but i see no box tool
[05:23] <Errpast1> Toma-, I went the System>admin route two hours ago.  It hangs on "trying to find drivfers"
[05:23] <Errpast1> I will synaptic gutenprint right now
[05:23] <Charly> DWRZ, try View>Print Layout
[05:23] <techie> doff. thanks.
[05:23] <richie> i need help with ubuntu 6.10 basiclly having issues with keyboard(all previous versions of ubuntu have been ok) but basically keybaord not workng for live install. i have tried setting the keybaord in preferences but no luck. after a bit of investigation i found that if i make sure the num lock is turned off when live cd is booting that my keybaord will work. has anyone had similar problems. or know a good fix?
[05:23] <Toma-> Errpast1: ok. it may already be installed tho
[05:23] <abcdef> can someone help me, how do i install stuff? when i do apt-get install package it says not found
[05:23] <jared> if you don't mind me asking DWRZ, why exactly do you need the page to be in the center of the screen?
[05:23] <abcdef> how do i add package to source.luist?
[05:24] <Artemis3> DWRZ, try this monster wiki, specially the FAQ for each openoffice component: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoHelpOutline
[05:24] <DWRZ> yeah, print layout doesn't fix it, it makes it span the entire screen
[05:24] <doff> techie, see private dialog I'll help u there.
[05:24] <techie> ok
[05:24] <DWRZ> ok thanks artemis
[05:24] <DWRZ> jared, just for ergonomics purposes i guess
[05:24] <Zilulil> i can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine
[05:25] <tj239> abcdef, what you add to the source.list is called a repository
[05:25] <jared> ok.
[05:25] <Kresjah_laptop> Hey! I'm trying to use wxPython in my python app here, but I get "ImportError: No module named wx". I would have presumed that it meant wx wasn't installed, but a lot of wx packages are already selected in synaptic, including what seems like the logical dependencies to get "import wx" working. Anyone that can enlighten me on what packages I might be missing, or any extra steps that must be taken? Using Edgy Eft and Python 2.5
[05:25] <Errpast1> Toma-, looks like it's installed already
[05:25] <jared> I'm sorry i didn't help much... but I tried I gotta go now
[05:25] <Toma-> Errpast1: printers are terrible things :) i spent 1/2 a day trying to get proprietry drivers to work from Canon for my RX520. I ended up using the free drivers and it worked like a treat
[05:25] <Toma-> Errpast1: ok, lets find out why its stopping on loading those drivers
[05:25] <abcdef> tj239, how do i add universal packages to sourcelist?
[05:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know a way to automount discs and mountpoints automatically?
[05:25] <tj239> abcdef, how you add to the source.list is with a command in the terminal................. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <Errpast1> Toma-, hmmm.  I bought this 2070 cause it seemed so well supported in linux community
[05:25] <Zilulil> i can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> everyone I think i'm gonna bow out to, its late.  Errpast1 if after 17hrs you don't get your printer working, i'll give you the decoder ring.
[05:26] <Errpast1> Toma-, sure, thanks
[05:26] <yharrow> ubuntu_no_worky,  what version of ubuntu are you using/
[05:26] <Toma-> Errpast1: it is! how badly does the system lock when trying to load the drivers? because theres ALOT of drivers...
[05:26] <Artemis3> tj239, you can always gksudo gedit ;)
[05:26] <iRock> :(
[05:26] <iRock> Didn't work. :(
[05:26] <Charly> DWRZ, try Format>Page to access Page properties
[05:26] <tj239> Artemis3, don't leave off vim or vi
[05:26] <iRock> I tried Dapper, but I got a kernel panic on it.
[05:26] <tj239> :P
[05:26] <maarten> Hey guys, whats a good IRC network these days with some tech channels, including windows, games, etc whatnot?
[05:27] <HiDensity> how do I change into a directory with a space in terminal...ex: Program Files
[05:27] <abcdef> tj239, hiow do i add universe packages to source list?
[05:27] <Artemis3> well its for prettier user experience
[05:27] <Zilulil> i can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine how do i go about finding it?
[05:27] <abcdef> i know how to use nano, but what to add in there
[05:27] <kalorin> irock?
[05:27] <tj239> abcdef, remove the # from the line that says universe on it
[05:27] <Toma-> HiDensity: you can either use 'Program Files' or Program\ Files
[05:27] <techie> doff thanks for the help but none of it makes sense to me at this point.
[05:27] <maarten> HiDensity: place the folder in quotes: "Program Files"
[05:27] <Artemis3> maarten, freenode?
[05:27] <DWRZ> roger charly
[05:28] <iRock> kalorin: I don't believe this may be a driver problem
[05:28] <maarten> Artemis3: Thanks, i'll try that
[05:28] <HiDensity> maarten: you rock thanks
[05:28] <Toma-> HiDensity: better yet, type Prog then hit tab
[05:28] <Errpast1> Toma-, will I see drivers via lsmod (like I do with wireless drivers?)
[05:28] <abcdef> i feel stupid lolz, thanks man
[05:28] <Artemis3> maarten, you are already trying it
[05:28] <doff> techie, k )
[05:28] <iRock> kalorin: I've tried every distro I have, they all panic. :(
[05:28] <Q_Continuum> How difficult would it be to "slipstream" in the current patches for a Ubuntu install CD?  (If not, there should be an easy way to - this fresh install has 227MB of updates out of the box! Dialup users would die at that!)
[05:28] <maarten> LOL
[05:28] <Toma-> Errpast1: i dont think so. youll see it in the cups admin page tho
[05:28] <Zilulil> i can't find where wine was installed... it didn't go into the normal ~/.wine how do i go about finding it?
[05:28] <kalorin> wait, you're getting kernel panic's?
[05:28] <maarten> I did not realize that :D
[05:28] <Errpast1> Toma-, yes, I see the printer in the CUPS admin page.
[05:28] <Artemis3> ubuntu servers are linked to freenode....
[05:29] <maarten> I see :)
[05:29] <iRock> kalorin: Yes. It only happens when I have my ATi card in my PCI slot.
[05:29] <kalorin> iRock, a kernel panic is usually a harddware issue, are you overclocking it at all?
[05:29] <Toma-> Errpast1: super. so it IS loading the driver already?
[05:29] <yeahlolgfsdf> what's ChanServ?
[05:29] <Errpast1> Toma-, but CUPS keeps asking for a password.  My root password doesn't work
[05:29] <Toma-> ahh.
[05:29] <ubuntu_no_worky> im running edgy eft
[05:29] <Errpast1> Toma-, And I ran the lppasswd and created a user, that didn't work
[05:29] <DWRZ> yeah, nothing on Format->page
[05:29] <tj239> abcdef,  that line should already be there so it doesn't need to be typed............... if it's not there; you need to go to  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[05:29] <iRock> kalorin: No, It hasn't been overclocked.
[05:29] <Zilulil> anybody know how i can find my wine folder? it didn't install where it normally does
[05:29] <Errpast1> Toma-, I killed CUPS and restarted it, in case it needed to re read password files.  No luck
[05:29] <kalorin> iRock, oh, did you tell the bios to initialize the PCIe card first? or at least the one that X is expecting to see?
[05:30] <Toma-> Errpast1: ok
[05:30] <Errpast1> Toma-, I know my root password is correct.  I even changed that via passwd, to be sure
[05:30] <kalorin> that would likely give you all kinds of hurt if you have a card and it's expecting to see a completely different card and tries to load the other drivers
[05:30] <iRock> kalorin: I don't have any PCIe or AGP slots. My card is a standard PCI card.
[05:30] <ice> bisa kenalan ngak?
[05:30] <kalorin> ah
[05:30] <kalorin> man, sorry
[05:30] <mbac> i think someone broke the internet
[05:30] <kalorin> no idea then
[05:30] <Exershio> hey
[05:30] <mbac> i'm having trouble connecting to several nodes
[05:30] <Artemis3> hahaha nah that some language
[05:30] <kalorin> in the bios is it set to initalize the AGP/PCIe slot first though?
[05:31] <kalorin> maybe it's just getting lost?
[05:31] <Toma-> Errpast1: brb. checking other PC with cups on it
[05:31] <ice> hai pa kabar boleh kenalan ngak?
[05:31] <iRock> kalorin: It's set to PCI first.
[05:31] <Artemis3> malay or something, i dunno
[05:31] <Exershio> can somebody here help me? I want to set my resolution at 1152x864 but it doesn't appear on the list. it goes from 1024x768 to 1280x1024, and I don't know how to set it. I used 1152x864 on Windows XP before I installed Ubuntu
[05:31] <iRock> kalorin: Windows works perfectly, flawlessly with this card. Linux on the other hand... :'(
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> !id | ice
[05:32] <ubotu> ice: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:32] <NoelCower> Howdy-ho.
[05:32] <kalorin> irock, that's odd, you sure you have the right driver installed?
[05:32] <iRock> kalorin: Yes.
[05:32] <iRock> kalorin: fglrx, fresh from the repos
[05:32] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automount drives on edgy
[05:33] <tj239> :)
[05:33] <mbac> Exershio, less /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[05:33] <Artemis3> oi, nano is 2 colors only!
[05:33] <mbac> er, Xorg.0.log
[05:33] <Errpast1> Toma-, thx.  I'm poking around Google
[05:33] <yeahlolgfsdf> could someone give me a guide to IRC
[05:33] <mbac> see if the resolution is probed
[05:33] <yeahlolgfsdf> I know nothing about it
[05:33] <thread> why am I having like zero luck trying to get this 20" lcd run at its native 1680x1050? this is the nvidia driver, and I've got the sync ranges specified correctly and tried all sorts of combinations of the edid ignoring directives.
[05:34] <tj239> hey, my gedit is black and white
[05:34] <thread> I just get "No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing.
[05:34] <Artemis3> and its black, everyone knows users are scared of black
[05:34] <Toma-> Errpast1: its ment to be your 1st user username + pass in the cups admin page
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3: Doesn't need to be - nano has the capability for multi-colored syntax hilighting.   Check your nanorc
[05:34] <iRock> Well, One of the main reasons I got this card was to boost performance of Beryl on my comp. :)
[05:34] <Artemis3> if it was for me...
[05:34] <thread> I can't find anything helpful on the forum or FixVideoResolutionHowto wiki page
[05:34] <kalorin> ah
[05:35] <kalorin> well, are you satisified?
[05:35] <kalorin> :)
[05:35] <guest41234243> hey
[05:35] <guest41234243> i have a question
[05:35] <TheVault> Whats the command to update firefox? I am using 6.06 of Ubuntu and I just installed all the updates and still no updated version of Firefox
[05:35] <cameronheath> can someone help me with Virtualization?
[05:35] <guest41234243> someone is using my wifi ... what can i do to them
[05:35] <guest41234243> i tried nbtstat -a
[05:35] <kalorin> oh man
[05:35] <guest41234243> but it didnt work
[05:35] <kalorin> picassa from google is avialable now for linux
[05:35] <kalorin> this might be useful :)
[05:35] <Artemis3> thread, if it were me, i would simply hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions at the end of the file, of course you need to do sudo, etc.
[05:35] <guest41234243> anyone
[05:35] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automount drives on edgy
[05:35] <techie_> i am using both programs somehow
[05:35] <NoelCower> kalorin: Interesting.
[05:35] <TheVault> cameronheath: You don't want virtualization, trust me, super slow if you don't have a fast computer
[05:35] <thread> Artemis3: oh yeah, I've done that
[05:35] <mbac> TheVault, apt-get install firefox says the latest version is installed?
[05:35] <techie_> should I be erasing one
[05:35] <Errpast1> Toma-, 1st user?  not sure what you mean
[05:35] <dr-tofu> hello all, how can i add paths to my PATH variable automatically at startup?
[05:35] <kalorin> yeah I just pulled and installed dcraw
[05:36] <kalorin> it's command line
[05:36] <kalorin> not sure it'll do what I want, but maybe
[05:36] <TheVault> lemme try that mbac
[05:36] <techie_> the new xchat and the gnome one xchat
[05:36] <Toma-> Errpast1: as in, the main user. the 1st user you created on the system
[05:36] <Errpast1> Toma-, I've tried root and root's pw
[05:36] <Artemis3> gnome xchat is nasty i don't like it
[05:36] <thread> Artemis3: to all the sections by depth... the log file just says "No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing."
[05:36] <techie_> does one program requires the other or not
[05:36] <Charly> guest41234243, secure your wifi with wep or wpa
[05:36] <ice> boleh kenalan ngak?
[05:36] <cameronheath> thevault: i already kinda have it i need a hand installing vmtools
[05:36] <Errpast1> Toma-, oh.  let me try that
[05:36] <brandon_> can someone help me to get my sound working in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <mbac> Artemis, yeah, the worst part about it is it pushes you here by default ;)
[05:36] <Artemis3> thread, then your screen (monitor?) refresh rates are off
[05:36] <mbac> i just installed it a second ago
[05:36] <nanothief> how can i get a specific character (eg the 102nd char) of a file in bash?
[05:37] <thread> Artemis3: lcd, and no .. they're not.
[05:37] <DWRZ> Anybody know how to automatically add page numbers to the lower right side of the page on OOo?
[05:37] <iRock> kalorin: Picasa for Linux is actually the Windows version running through Wine. :P
[05:37] <brandon_> I will pay $10 to anyone who can get my sound to work in Ubuntu :(
[05:37] <mbac> nanothief, cut
[05:37] <kalorin> really?
[05:37] <Artemis3> wow
[05:37] <kalorin> that's too bad
[05:37] <crimsun> brandon_: have you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[05:37] <brandon_> really
[05:37] <kalorin> it's a ubuntu package that I'm downloading right now
[05:37] <brandon_> yeah
[05:37] <Artemis3> if its not the adthingie that doesnt work in lionux
[05:37] <crimsun> brandon_: so, where did you paste the info requested?
[05:37] <thread> yeah, I've worked through these resolution issues in the past, but I'm a bit baffled by this
[05:37] <cameronheath> TheVault: i already have vm fusion and ubuntu installed, i am just ahving trouble installing vmtools
[05:37] <brandon_> I have done quite a few things, that is why I need someone who knows quite a bit to help
[05:37] <nanothief> mbac: thanks
[05:37] <ice> km nak mana?
[05:38] <TheVault> mbac: Well it says its up to date but i checked the version of firefox and its 1.5.0.10
[05:38] <mbac> TheVault, try apt-get update first
[05:38] <Artemis3> what card it is?
[05:38] <TheVault> cameronheath: Oh, well i am no expert on that, but all I know its slow stuff
[05:38] <yeahlolgfsdf> my sound doesn't work with firefox on ubuntu
[05:38] <Q_Continuum> eck: Installed!  Now doing the 1/4 GB updates :-/
[05:38] <yeahlolgfsdf> could someone help
[05:38] <yeahlolgfsdf> its the flash sound
[05:38] <Errpast1> Toma-, no luck
[05:38] <TheVault> mbac: alright 1 sec
[05:38] <brandon_> crimsun: I didn't actually see that page, I used the guide to troubleshooting sound problems
[05:39] <cameronheath> Can anyone help with Virtualization using VMware
[05:39] <brandon_> let me check out that page real quick
[05:39] <Errpast1> Toma-, thank you for your persistence and patience.
[05:39] <Toma-> Errpast1: didnt log you in? in http://localhost:631 ?
[05:39] <thread> Artemis3: geforce fx5500
[05:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automount drives on edgy
[05:39] <Errpast1> Toma- that's corrrect
[05:39] <TheVault> mbac:Reading package lists... Done
[05:39] <TheVault> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:39] <TheVault> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:39] <kalorin> wow, it's wine
[05:39] <TheVault> shit guys, sorry
[05:39] <NoelCower> Are there any particular issues with gparted or hardware that would cause it to pretty much hang when loading (in and outside of ubiquity)?
[05:39] <Artemis3> thats nvidia realm...
[05:39] <vox754> ubuntu_no_worky, hey! why did you do that?
[05:39] <Errpast1> When I go to that url, I am not asked to auth.  BUT when I choose a CUPS action like add printer, it provides an auth box
[05:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> ?
[05:39] <Errpast1> that's where I cannot get a successful auth.  with  main user.  root user.  ANY user
[05:39] <Toma-> Errpast1: is your user in the admin and lpadmin groups? (run 'groups')
[05:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> I thought u told me to leave?
[05:40] <Charly> DWRZ, activate footer from Format>Page and then Insert>Field>Page number with right allignment in the footer
[05:40] <vox754> ubuntu_no_worky, you are so NOT reading...
[05:40] <Errpast1> Toma-, no.
[05:40] <TheVault> mbac: still nothing
[05:40] <Errpast1> Toma-, I will cat /etc/groups
[05:40] <TheVault> mbac: what else should I try?
[05:40] <drage_av_lys> anyone ever have a problem getting files off an ipod back onto the hard drive in ubuntu? :o
[05:40] <Toma-> Errpast1: try adding your user to those groups and try again, with that same username
[05:40] <Artemis3> NoelCower, i think its possible, its not exactly rock solid, i would simply leave empty (non partitioned) space and tell ubiquity to use that to avoid using gparted inside ubiquity too much
[05:40] <rmathews> alsamixer identifies my card as SiS S7018, but sound isn't working.  any idea how I can fix this?  I'm on XUbuntu Edgy.
[05:41] <dr-tofu> how can i add a path to my $PATH variable on startup? i tried PATH=$PATH:/dir in my rc.local, no beans..
[05:41] <mbac> TheVault, er, what do you expect the latest version to be?
[05:41] <crimsun> rmathews: paste the info requested from wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems, and tell us the URL
[05:41] <TheVault> 2.0.2
[05:41] <NoelCower> Artemis: I was considering that as an alternative, seems like my best option at the moment too
[05:41] <NoelCower> Thanks
[05:41] <brandon_> OK, I'm back
[05:41] <Errpast1> lpadmin:x:106:errpast
[05:41] <Toma-> dr-tofu: add it to /etc/environments
[05:41] <brandon_> I checked out that debugging sound problems page, and the commands don't work because my card is not found
[05:41] <vox754> ubuntu_no_worky, well, I'm gone too. Sorry, that I could help you further.
[05:41] <Artemis3> NoelCower, you could use any resizing with the newest gparted live cd
[05:41] <TheVault> mbac: the latest firefox is 2.0.2 or something like that and i have 1.5
[05:41] <Errpast1> Toma-, I think that means I 'm in the group, yes?
[05:41] <nwonknu-> Hi
[05:41] <mbac> dpkg --status firefox for me says it conflicts with 2.0
[05:42] <DWRZ> thanks charly
[05:42] <brandon_> I really will pay someone via paypal if we can get my sound working though
[05:42] <dr-tofu> Toma-: thanks
[05:42] <Toma-> Errpast1: id say so
[05:42] <mbac> er, says 2.0 conflicts with 1.5
[05:42] <ubuntu_no_worky> its k
[05:42] <Errpast1> hmmm
[05:42] <ubuntu_no_worky> thanks anywho
[05:42] <HiDensity> has anyone gotten slingplayer to work...im having problems
[05:42] <crimsun> brandon_: well, to help you, I need the info that I requested.
[05:42] <drage_av_lys> no one? lol.
[05:42] <TheVault> mbac: so there no way to update all the way?
[05:42] <Artemis3> ok whats your sound card again?
[05:42] <nwonknu-> no
[05:42] <Errpast1> Toma-, thanks very much for your efforts.  I'll consider the last 2 and a half hours a learning experience, and hoepfully will get printing working tommorrow
[05:42] <iRock> I was googling, and I found a similar case: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/2845
[05:42] <gravemind> hey I have a question about wireless: this computer periodically disconnects from the wireless point, and then reconnects in ~20s. the other non-linux computers (even the ones in the same room) have no problem staying connected at all times. I have an atheros wireless chipset. Is this a common problem?
[05:42] <brandon_> crimsun:  The commands on the debugging page return an error for me
[05:42] <Errpast1> all the best
[05:42] <mbac> TheVault, no, it should, i just think firefox v1.5 and firefox v2.0 are considered different packages
[05:42] <Toma-> Errpast1: no probs
[05:43] <brandon_> should I report them anyways?
[05:43] <L234> How to update xfce 4.4 ?
[05:43] <crimsun> brandon_: yes.
[05:43] <mbac> so upgrading firefox1 just brings you to the latest version of the firefox1 series
[05:43] <TheVault> oh
[05:43] <yeahlolgfsdf> A sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.
[05:43] <NoelCower> Artemis: Actually, bit of an oddity.. I've left it going for an hour and it just loaded the instant I popped into a terminal to kill it
[05:43] <iRock> *similar, if not exact
[05:43] <yeahlolgfsdf> A sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.
[05:43] <TheVault> well then I'll have to unistall 1.5 and install 2.0 manually?
[05:43] <NoelCower> It's become self-aware.
[05:43] <brandon_> ok, let me put together a quick report
[05:43] <crimsun> yeahlolgfsdf: kill it, please.
[05:43] <Artemis3> yeahlolgfsdf, or get the freak close to the acces point?
[05:43] <NoelCower> Oh well, no harm done here O-o
[05:43] <kalorin> bah
[05:44] <mbac> thevault, i'm not sure, i'm kind of expecting apt-get install firefox2 to work
[05:44] <kalorin> picassa does in fact support raw files, but doesn't do adobe digital negatives
[05:44] <kalorin> :(
[05:44] <techie> Can anybody comment on this: After having erase program via add/remove the program still shows on the list of internet programs (the old xchat gnome) how do I remove it?
[05:44] <TheVault> lemme try that
[05:44] <mbac> it'll probably say not found
[05:44] <kalorin> of all the OS's in the world that I woudl _THINK_ would do an open standard like adobe over various manufacturers raw formats, it'd be linux
[05:44] <kalorin> amazing
[05:44] <vox754> yeahlolgfsdf, what book? Hayt? Cheng?
[05:44] <TheVault> mbac: yeah your right, says not found
[05:44] <techie> This reminds me in windows xp of programs still on the start menu even though they are no longer there.
[05:44] <mbac> i'm stumped
[05:44] <TheVault> mbac: Same here
[05:45] <gravemind> techie: try opening synaptic (system>administration>synaptic) and "completely remove" said programs
[05:45] <TheVault> mbac: I'll go searching around and see what I can find
[05:45] <mbac> maybe it's considered too bleeding edge for edgy eft or something
[05:45] <mbac> and only when you enable "multiverse" crap in /etc/apt/sources.list do you get to upgrade to it
[05:45] <TheVault> I think I got multiverse
[05:46] <crimsun> huh?
[05:46] <crimsun> !firefox
[05:46] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:46] <TheVault> I went and installed all the respitories
[05:46] <crimsun> !info firefox
[05:46] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 9009 kB, installed size 28608 kB
[05:46] <techie> gravewind, I did remove the xchat gnome but then when I go to internet it is still listed in there but it will not work of course because it is deleted.
[05:46] <gravemind> mbac: you can add multiverse in synaptic without manually editing the sources.lst
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> A sphere of radius R=4 is placed with its center at (0,0,5) and kept at voltage V=1, the infinite z=0 plane is kept at a voltage of V=0. Find the voltage in the region above the plane, and outside the sphere. Give your answer in cylindrical coordinates.
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> (3/3/2007 8:44:41 PM) vox754: yeahlolgfsdf, what book? Hayt? Cheng?
[05:46] <crimsun> !info firefox edgy-security
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> what?
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> what book
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> did I get the problem from?
[05:46] <mbac> gravemind, you kids with your newfangled graphical configuratronic gizmos
[05:46] <BIGEE> Hellow
[05:46] <BIGEE> hello
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> yeah seriously@
[05:46] <yeahlolgfsdf> jsj@
[05:46] <crimsun> yeahlolgfsdf: that's completely off-topic for this channel. Use #ubuntu-offtopic if you need to.
[05:46] <eshaase> is there such a thing as a network installer for ubuntu?
[05:46] <gravemind> techie: there are two options in synaptic, remove and completely remove. Try doing completely remove this time
[05:46] <man> hai boleh kenaln and minta nohpnya ngak?
[05:47] <arooni> hey folks
[05:47] <eck> eshaase: yes, is is on the mirrors
[05:47] <techie> gravewind. ok I will try that.
[05:47] <eshaase> eck: damnit, ok, thanks
[05:47] <eck> lemme find a link
[05:47] <TheVault> alright, im stumped, gonna go find information somewhere
[05:47] <TheVault> would having 6.06 have anything to do with this problem?
[05:47] <eshaase> eck: this is for the alternate installeR?
[05:47] <gravemind> mbac: yeah, but sometimes I get tired of all this slow gui stuff and crack open the virtual terminal
[05:47] <arooni> is there a sexy UI enhancement i can easily (from sudo apt-get install) to edgy?
[05:47] <Artemis3> or the server, which is smaller
[05:47] <crimsun> arooni: see #ubuntu-effects
[05:47] <Toma-> arooni: you can install e17. thats pretty sexy, but itll replace gnome
[05:47] <BIGEE> does ubuntu deserve to be number 1 on distrowatch.com? Discuss
[05:48] <mbac> gravemind, i'm actually surprised to find GUI tools for all this stuff
[05:48] <Exershio> Sorry bout before, I went afk for a few mins, but can somebody help me get 1152x864 as my resolution? It doesn't appear on the list
[05:48] <vox754> yeahlolgfsdf, nevermind, the answer is obviously "(V-Vi)/r" or something like that converted to cylindrical.
[05:48] <Toma-> BIGEE: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <Artemis3> BIGEE, here or in offtopic?
[05:48] <arooni> Toma-: what does that mean
[05:48] <eck> eshaase: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[05:48] <mbac> it never even occurs to me to look, because i've been using shell everything for the last, oh, 12 years : /
[05:48] <brandon_> Crimsun:  Do you want me to just post the results in forums and give you the link?
[05:48] <arooni> Toma-: do i need ghome (this is my first day in ubuntu)
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: You can have both Gnome and E17 installed (I do)
[05:48] <NoelCower> Thank you for the help, Artemis.  Chances are I'll be back once my ATI drivers have pissed me off. xD
[05:48] <Toma-> arooni: ahh. dont get e17 yet :D
[05:48] <Artemis3> ok...
[05:48] <arooni> well i just want something that installs easily
[05:48] <crimsun> brandon_: I generally don't browse to forum urls. pastebin.ca will suffice.
[05:48] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: but you cant run them at the same time ;)
[05:48] <arooni> that makes stuff sexier.... maybe like os x
[05:49] <gravemind> mbac: gui is great for new users: like when I switched from mac, synaptic was the coolest thing ever cause it was a huge list of stuff I could get
[05:49] <arooni> like that cool thing that separates windows
[05:49] <arooni> expose or something
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Actually....you can do that too :)
[05:49] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone here know how to automount drives on edgy
[05:49] <arooni> plus something better for when i alt-tab
[05:49] <crimsun> Toma-: :1, :2, etc.
[05:49] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: yeh, but not on your first day of using ubuntu
[05:49] <arooni> well not quite my first day...
[05:49] <mbac> gravemind, yeah, ithis ubuntu thing's got a ot of polish
[05:49] <TheVault> mbac: Guess I gotta get automatix
[05:49] <arooni> but first day giving up windows
[05:49] <arooni> forever
[05:50] <mbac> thevault, what's that?
[05:50] <gravemind> arooni: try beryl or compiz, but they can be hard to install.
[05:50] <arooni> oh noes
[05:50] <eshaase> eck: how will the packages from a 6.10 differ from the ones collected from the net install?
[05:50] <Toma-> crimsun: i know :) ive run window managers on a nokia 770 with xnest and various other fun tools
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Applications > System > New Login isn't so bad.  Compiling E17, on the other hand, uh no.
[05:50] <gravemind> TheVault: what are you trying to install? chances are you can do it better without automatix
[05:50] <Artemis3> i use it sometimes for games, or things that doesn't matter if the machine locks up
[05:50] <eshaase> eck: *from a 6.10 cd
[05:50] <Toma-> gravemind: actually beryl is a peice of cake to install
[05:50] <TheVault> gravemind: trying to install firefox 2.0.2(latest I guess)
[05:50] <gravemind> Toma-: not on 64 :P
[05:50] <Toma-> !beryl | arooni
[05:50] <ubotu> arooni: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:51] <mbac> oh, it seems like i'm running 6.10
[05:51] <mbac> that might be your trouble
[05:51] <eck> eshaase: i'm not sure how many updates have been issued since the release of edgy
[05:51] <brandon_> Crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380593
[05:51] <Toma-> gravemind: nothing is easy to install on 64bit :)
[05:51] <TheVault> mbac: yeah
[05:51] <mbac> since it auto-updated to firefox 2 just 20 minutes ago when i booted this
[05:51] <eck> obviously if you installed from the CD you'd have to install all of those
[05:51] <gravemind> TheVault: download the sources and compile if you really want it
[05:51] <brandon_> Crimsun: Let me know if you would like any other outputs or if you want it formatted differently
[05:51] <rajncajn> Has anyone here had any experience with Multisync?
[05:51] <TheVault> well thats the problem, I don't know where firefox is located or I would do that manually
[05:51] <gravemind> TheVault: I doubt that automatix would have firefox since it already comes installed on ubuntu by default
[05:51] <crimsun> brandon_: lsmod |grep ^snd-hda-intel
[05:51] <mbac> i can't understand why older versions of ubuntu won't let you upgrade to current
[05:52] <eshaase> eck: is this net install the same as the alternate cd install (with the exception of it being installed over the network)?
[05:52] <man> s
[05:52] <gravemind> look on the firefox site to see what the latest linux build is
[05:52] <TheVault> gravemind: I guess it allows you to update to the fullest of whatever version is out there
[05:52] <Charly> compiz appears more stable to me, although beryl has lot more features, it was crashing my video players in fullscreen
[05:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> free stuff to anyone who can help me
[05:52] <Toma-> mbac: have you read the upgrade pages? /msg ubotu upgrade
[05:52] <eck> eshaase: i think so, they both used the debian text based installer
[05:52] <TheVault> Why don't people like automatix anyway?
[05:52] <Artemis3> haha
[05:52] <Artemis3> getting desperate?
[05:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> like I have old motherboards and sticks of ram and hard drives
[05:52] <gravemind> !automatics
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> take your pic
[05:52] <fokuslee> hey anyone has a made deb for kiba-dock amd64? since cvs is closed?
[05:52] <gravemind> d'oh
[05:52] <gravemind> !automatix
[05:52] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:53] <Toma-> TheVault: it used to use --force-yes to install things which is pretty shifty.
[05:53] <TheVault> toma: Oh
[05:53] <mbac> Toma, i'm going to guess this involves apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:53] <TheVault> So its one of those scary programs I guess
[05:53] <Toma-> mbac: yep.
[05:53] <gravemind> TheVault: go to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[05:53] <mbac> toma, *shudder*
[05:53] <gravemind> click the big green button
[05:53] <vox754> If you are having problems with azureus installed from the repositories try installing "sun-java-jre" and using the azureus package directly from the developers' page.
[05:53] <TheVault> gravemind: alrighty
[05:54] <Toma-> mbac: hey, aslong as you keep running "dist-upgrade" and "apt-get -f install" till everything is settled, its fine
[05:54] <covert> i've tried to install atleast a dozen times, but it keeps messing up at the partitioning....does anyone have suggestions?
[05:54] <Toma-> mbac: the problems come when you just run them once and things dont get installed/configured
[05:54] <TheVault> gravemind: where is the location of firefox thats installed on my computer so I can overwrite everything with this newer version of firefox?
[05:54] <gravemind> hey I have a question about wireless: this computer periodically disconnects from the wireless point, and then reconnects in ~20s. the other non-linux computers (even the ones in the same room) have no problem staying connected at all times. I have an atheros wireless chipset. Is this a common problem?
[05:54] <mbac> toma, fortunately i'm already running 6.10
[05:55] <mbac> gravemind, wild guess is that you have your access point set to any ("") instead of a specific one
[05:55] <brandon_> Crimsun: Can you see the dialog window from me?
[05:55] <gravemind> TheVault: I don't know that much about linux filestructure to tell you... see if the installer knows how to overwrite before worrying about it
[05:55] <eshaase> eck: so i just grab that mini.iso?
[05:55] <ubuntu_no_worky> free stuff... mailed to you.. if you help me... old hard drives motherboards cpus
[05:55] <ubuntu_no_worky> u name it
[05:55] <Toma-> TheVault: better option, is uninstall firefox, then install the binary from mozilla in /opt then run 'ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[05:55] <rmathews> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/893102 .. it's all the info requested by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems .. Any suggestions on what I should do next?
[05:55] <ubuntu_no_worky> looking for a program to automount ext3 sata drive
[05:55] <eck> eshaase: yes, if you are going to burn a CD (it is also possible to use hdd media with the tarball)
[05:55] <Artemis3> ok but fedex only
[05:56] <TheVault> toma: alrighty
[05:56] <jacob> lol shiping?
[05:56] <bjv> im gonna run ubuntu on a 5gb disk, im i on track if i go with a 2048 blocksize?
[05:56] <bjv> what would be the reason why i would not want to do 1024 sized?
[05:56] <gravemind> mbac: where is this mysterious setting? I use network manager, and haven't had to config anything in /etc yet
[05:56] <crimsun> brandon_: I do not accept queries that I did not initiate.
[05:56] <eshaase> eck: ok, thanks
[05:56] <Toma-> mbac: youre trying to get to feisty already?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu_no_worky: fstab?
[05:56] <mbac> gravemind, oh you've never actually configured wireless?
[05:56] <Charly> ubuntu_no_worky, add it to your fstab file
[05:56] <Artemis3> i think he means hotplug
[05:56] <brandon_> Crimsun: Alright, did the pastebin link work for you?
[05:56] <mbac> Toma, :P
[05:56] <eshaase> eck: so this edgy release is updated after its release? i'm trying to understand the difference between an install from a 6.10 and a edgy net install
[05:56] <mbac> gravemind, try iwconfig in a shell and look for ESSID:
[05:56] <ubuntu_no_worky> surely theres a way around this fstab stuff
[05:56] <vox754> To add a path you can do it on your "~/.bashrc" PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path
[05:57] <ubuntu_no_worky> like a gui
[05:57] <crimsun> brandon_: I asked you for more info. Did you provide it?
[05:57] <brandon_> brandon@brandon-laptop:~$ lsmod |grep ^snd-hda-intel
[05:57] <brandon_> brandon@brandon-laptop:~$
[05:57] <Toma-> mbac: cant you wait a little longer? :/ i am.
[05:57] <eshaase> eck: *from a 6.10 cd =)
[05:57] <gravemind> mbac -nope. the madwifi drivers worked out of the box and I used network manager to select my ESSID and put in my WPA passkey
[05:57] <Artemis3> ah sure, there is gksudo gedit /etc/fstab :)
[05:57] <crimsun> brandon_: well, that's the start of your problems.
[05:57] <crimsun> brandon_: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[05:57] <jacob> Will vmware to windows work on linux with beryl
[05:57] <Artemis3> (from alt f2, you wont see the command line ;)
[05:57] <brandon_> brandon@brandon-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[05:57] <brandon_> Password:
[05:57] <brandon_> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko': No such file or directory
[05:57] <brandon_> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/acore/snd.ko': No such file or directory
[05:57] <brandon_> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.ko': No such file or directory
[05:58] <brandon_> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.ko': No such file or directory
[05:58] <brandon_> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko': No such file or directory
[05:58] <brandon_> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko': No such file or directory
[05:58] <crimsun> brandon_: argh, don't paste here
[05:58] <eck> eshaase: i am pretty sure this just grabs all the latest versions of what would be on the regular install cd
[05:58] <Toma-> for the love of god.
[05:58] <brandon_> brandon@brandon-laptop:~$
[05:58] <gravemind> holy crap
[05:58] <brandon_> sorry :(
[05:58] <jacob> help
[05:58] <jacob> -help
[05:58] <arooni> how can i list the last commands i typed into console
[05:58] <crimsun> brandon_: ok, let's get you running a known-good kernel first. What cpu are you using?
[05:58] <ubuntu_no_worky> money... I can send money order?
[05:58] <andrej> Hi ... which package contains man-pages to C library stuff in ubuntu?
[05:58] <ubuntu_no_worky> :c
[05:58] <Charly> ubuntu_no_worky, no need to work around fstab. fstab is the linux way for mounting filesystems at boot
[05:58] <gravemind> arooni: press up arrow to see them
[05:58] <TheVault> toma: to unistall firefox, I do sudo apt-get unistall firefox
[05:58] <jacob> press down i think
[05:58] <brandon_> amd 64
[05:58] <mbac> gravemind, generally the behavior you're describing occurs when your wireless NIC sees multiple access points when it's set to auto-connect to any
[05:58] <crimsun> andrej: manpages-dev
[05:58] <arooni> gravemind: i want more than that
[05:58] <gravemind> arooni: i don't know how to list then
[05:58] <arooni> i want a listing ;p
[05:58] <eck> eshaase: so basically after you install you don't need to apt-get upgrade to get the latest packages/security fixes
[05:58] <covert> hey...this is my partition screen...can anyone tell me why it won't work? the first 2 partitions are windows....http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7163/screenshotuq1.png
[05:58] <Toma-> arooni: 'cat ~/.bash_history'
[05:58] <jacob> u guys holy ctap
[05:58] <ubuntu_no_worky> ahh feature not a bug?
[05:58] <andrej> thanks crimsun
[05:58] <brandon_> turion
[05:59] <arooni> of last 50  commands typed ore so
[05:59] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, you can always get in contact with canonical ;)
[05:59] <mbac> it happened to me in windows until i nailed down "connect to this and only this"
[05:59] <Toma-> TheVault: no, apt-get remove firefox
[05:59] <brandon_> Crimsun: can you initiate a dialog with me?
[05:59] <TheVault> oh alrighty
[05:59] <gravemind> mbac: cool, great, where can I edit my settings then?
[05:59] <crimsun> brandon_: ok, and are you using a binary-only driver (madwifi, nvidia/fglrx)?
[05:59] <crimsun> brandon_: no, I do not accept queries.
[05:59] <mbac> gravemind, System / Administration / Networking ?
[05:59] <brandon_> crimsun: Nvidia
[05:59] <covert> can anyone tell me why this partitioning won't work? http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7163/screenshotuq1.png
[05:59] <gravemind> mbac: cool I'll try it
[05:59] <iRock> Well, looks like I'll have to go back to Windows for this comp. :(
[05:59] <eshaase> eck: ok, thanks
[06:00] <crimsun> brandon_: ok, so now ``sudo aptitude install linux-generic''
[06:00] <gravemind> mbac: "Wireless connection: this network interface is not configured" lol
[06:00] <mbac> gravemind, uhhh...
[06:00] <mbac> gravemind, did you know you're not on the internet?
[06:00] <gravemind> mbac: isn't that great
[06:00] <Artemis3> covert, it should
[06:00] <gravemind> lol
[06:00] <techie> gravemind, thanks it work (complete removal)
[06:00] <andrej> And what's the ubuntu way of updating apropos?
[06:00] <gravemind> techie: great glad to hear it
[06:00] <techie> thanks.
[06:01] <man> hai bro boleh kenalanngak
[06:01] <gravemind> no prob
[06:01] <crimsun> rmathews: does muting 'External Amplifier' help?
[06:02] <gravemind> mbac: I hope I won't have to uninstall network-manager now
[06:02] <andrej> How does one update the apropos database in the ubuntu way?
[06:02] <Charly> covert, nothing wrong with that partitioning imo
[06:02] <mbac> gravemind, i bet your card just had a default connect to any access point mode
[06:02] <mbac> and if you use the network manager it'll override the settings
[06:02] <anthony_> its called roaming
[06:03] <anthony_> your card is set to roam probly
[06:03] <brandon_> Crimsun: OK, done.
[06:03] <covert> Charly and Artemis3: The partitioning is stuck at 5%, but atleast it hasn't crashed yet.  I've used the same configuration every time...
[06:03] <crimsun> brandon_: now, reboot and choose the -generic kernel at the boot menu
[06:03] <__mikem> Who was banned and why?
[06:03] <crimsun> no one was banned. A ban was removed.
[06:04] <arrenlex> It was! :D
[06:04] <covert> The installation appears to be working now...I guess 12th time's the charm!
[06:04] <arrenlex> I feel so freee.
[06:04] <__mikem> oh maybe I should read before I shoot my mouth
[06:04] <george> hey Eck, thanks again for the help last night
[06:04] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know of an fstab gui?
[06:04] <TheVault> toma: How do I change permission to my opt folder
[06:04] <TheVault> it won't allow me to add the firefox folder in there
[06:05] <rmathews> crimsun: nopes.  muting the External Amplifier doesn't help
[06:05] <covert> My installation is moving along now...27%....very curious
[06:05] <Artemis3> wow scared of fstab?
[06:05] <Toma-> TheVault: use sudo. the permissions on /opt are correct for running things
[06:05] <Artemis3> its just a text file
[06:05] <omegabeta> I ftabbed someone once my self.
[06:05] <omegabeta> then he echod and went null
[06:05] <omegabeta> echoed*
[06:05] <andrej> *sigh*
[06:05] <omegabeta> *hangs head in shame*
[06:05] <crimsun> rmathews: please stop all applications using sound; unload the alsa drivers; remove the state file; reload the driver.
[06:05] <TheVault> toma: you mean something like sudo chmod 777 /opt
[06:05] <gravemin1> mbac: well it seems that network settings and network-manager can coexist, but it doesn't solve the problem of random disconnects. One happened about 30s after i set it up
[06:05] <Artemis3> omegabeta, fsck that
[06:06] <covert> Hopefully the installer bugs will be worked out by the time that the final version of Feisty is released in April....
[06:06] <omegabeta> lol
[06:06] <TridenT_Boy3555> Hellooo
[06:06] <andrej> Ubunut seems to have no knowledge of makewhatis .. I can't find a makewhatis package.  How does one update the whatis/apropos database in ubuntu
[06:06] <ubuntu_no_worky> i hope so
[06:06] <Toma-> TheVault: heck no.... ''sudo mv firefox.tar.gz /opt' then 'sudo tar -zxvf firefox.tar.gz'
[06:06] <ubuntu_no_worky> drives should be autodetected and set up in feisty
[06:06] <gravemin1> does anybody know why amarok won't play flac, although all my other progs will? is there some special plugin I need?
[06:06] <TheVault> thanks
[06:07] <TridenT_Boy3555> What is a good wi-fi card that has good linux drivers?
[06:07] <covert> They are...I think that was the error, though.  It wouldn't install while drives were mounted.
[06:07] <TridenT_Boy3555> PCI is what I am looking at mainly, maybe USB.
[06:07] <mbac> gravemin1:  :(
[06:07] <Artemis3> another feisty improve, also with ntfs-g3
[06:07] <gravemin1> mbac: come to think of it, I've had strange problems with the wireless on this same computer in windows
[06:07] <TridenT_Boy3555> Sigh...I probably should ask somewhere else.
[06:08] <gravemin1> mbac, maybe it's hardware related
[06:08] <Artemis3> TridenT_Boy3555, i know how to find one
[06:08] <TridenT_Boy3555> lol
[06:08] <TridenT_Boy3555> google?
[06:08] <gravemin1> mbac: lots of times in windows, it complains that I'm experiencing "limited connectivity"
[06:08] <Charly> i dont know of any gui for fstab, would be a good idea to write one
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> Interesting...just did fresh install of 6.10, ran all the updates that were available...and the buttons on the top and bottom bars disappeared.
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> I presume I should reset X?
[06:09] <TridenT_Boy3555> What is a good video card to purchase for ubuntu...?
[06:09] <eshaase> i just finished installing ubuntu and i booted up my new system... it loads the splash screen and then dissappears only to show a console with a blank screen a blinking underscore cursor in the top-left corner of the screen, any ideas?
[06:09] <fokuslee> charly i second that maybe just a script to guide user through
[06:09] <Q_Continuum> I reset X and then rebooted.  Hopefully that fixes it.
[06:09] <Artemis3> TridenT_Boy3555, use this list: http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html
[06:09] <TridenT_Boy3555> mmm
[06:09] <brandon_> Crimsun: There was an Xorg error relating to graphics driver and I was taken to command prompt.  Should I install the Nvidia driver for the generic kernel?
[06:09] <tj239> Q_Continuum, on afresh install with a dist-upgrade it's best to reboot
[06:10] <gravemin1> eshaase: I had that same problem, here's what to do
[06:10] <andrej> Thanks girls ... found it on the DEBIAN website.  The command to use instead of makewhatis in debian based distros is mandb :P
[06:10] <crimsun> brandon_: linux-generic should have taken care of that, but yes
[06:10] <Artemis3> no blobs in openbsd ;)
[06:10] <Charly> i think mandrake used to have an fstab gui but havent used that distro in a long time
[06:10] <acphoton> hey guys, i need some help with my laptop.... i installed ubuntu and now when i try to boot in Windows XP mode, it says autochk program not found. skipping autocheck and then reboots the computer..... anyone have any ideas how to fix this :(
[06:10] <arooni> hey folks... i *love* beryl, but now qsynaptics (vertical scrolling on my touchpad) doesnt work anymore... suggestions?
[06:10] <Q_Continuum> tj239: I was going to do that, but I couldn't because all the buttons disappeared (after applying the updates something in Gnome got replaced, and halfway killed it without bringing it back)
[06:10] <covert> I'm proud of myself.  I successfully isolated a bug in Ubiquity. :)
[06:10] <Artemis3> launchpad!
[06:11] <eshaase> gravemin1: whats that?
[06:11] <covert> Posted
[06:11] <andrej> I'm proud of myself! I manage to make ubunutu usable w/o their website or IRC channel :D
[06:11] <gravemin1> eshaase: 1) press alt-ctrl-F1. 2) type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the quotes of course. 3) choose the defaults for most things, but when you get to video drivers, choose vesa.
[06:11] <vox754> Charly, I think SUSE has one, but never got to understand it. After a few, SUSE kept crashing on me. But I could definitely set things like mount point and character encoding like utf=8.
[06:11] <m1ke_l> hi
[06:11] <m1ke_l> how does one install kernel-headers?
[06:11] <gravemin1> eshaase: that should get your monitor to work
[06:12] <eshaase> gravemin1: control-alt-f1 shows a new console but it seems to be frozen and i can't type
[06:12] <rmathews> crimsun: how do I do all that? ("stop all applications using sound; unload the alsa drivers; remove the state file; reload the driver.")  A look at the alsa website, says I should have the module snd-trident ... but modprobe doesn't return anything.  something is amiss, right?
[06:12] <gravemin1> m1ke_l: first find out what kernel you have by doing "uname -r"
[06:12] <Artemis3> gravemin1, i think its way easier to edit xorg and change nv or ati whatever with vesa...
[06:12] <TridenT_Boy3555> Anyone know if I'll need drivers for Attansic L1 NIC? It's built-in, got it on this P5L-MX board.
[06:12] <crimsun> rmathews: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:12] <fokuslee> andrej makewhatis is more intuitive name i think
[06:12] <m1ke_l> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` never returns the right thing
[06:12] <gravemin1> artemis3: true I guess
[06:12] <eshaase> gravemin1: it only shows "Starting up ...\n 4 logical volume(s) in volume group "systemvg" now active
[06:12] <Artemis3> debian ways are not always the easiest
[06:12] <crimsun> m1ke_l: because we don't use kernel-headers. We use linux-headers.
[06:12] <gravemin1> eshaase: how did you do control-alt-f1 then? weird
[06:13] <m1ke_l> crimsun, cool...thanks
[06:13] <_`XeOn_> how to use make? i typed make and it said (make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.) but the README says to do that.... what do i do?
[06:13] <gravemin1> I guess your problem is related to that then.
[06:13] <eshaase> gravemin1: how did i do control-alt-f1 then?
[06:13] <covert> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/89605
[06:13] <tj239> mike, isn't it blah-$(uname -r)
[06:13] <rmathews> crimsun: heh,  ((0 snd_trident 1 snd_mpu401)) ... so that seems to be there.  what do I do now?
[06:13] <mbac> xeon, you need to run make in the directory with a 'Makefile' file in it
[06:13] <gravemin1> eshaase: oh, I just thought that wouldn't work if your keys are frozen, but the terminal is just busy I guess
[06:13] <gravemin1> eshaase: try restarting and seeing if it happens again
[06:14] <m1ke_l> tj239, in debian my syntax works
[06:14] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know how to automount and setup drives in edgy?  (without fstab)
[06:14] <eshaase> gravemin1: ok
[06:14] <gravemin1> ubuntu_no_worky: I'm pretty sure you have to use fstab, but it's not hard
[06:14] <eshaase> gravemin1: yep, same thing
[06:14] <TheVault> toma: I just finished doing that, now what do I do?
[06:14] <Artemis3> how mean of you covert mounting your drives before install ;)
[06:14] <crimsun> rmathews:  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-trident
[06:14] <Toma-> TheVault: run firefox?
[06:14] <TheVault> toma: finished moving and extracting to the opt folder, now what do i do?
[06:15] <TheVault> there is no folder in the opt folder
[06:15] <ubuntu_no_worky> grave do you know when they will fix it?
[06:15] <_`XeOn_> mbac, but theres only makefile.in
[06:15] <TheVault> for firefox
[06:15] <ubuntu_no_worky> maybe in feisty?
[06:15] <Toma-> TheVault: try 'sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[06:15] <mbac> xeon, oh, do ./configure first?
[06:15] <arooni> hey folks... i *love* beryl, but now qsynaptics (vertical scrolling on my touchpad) doesnt work anymore... suggestions?
[06:15] <covert> Artemis3: What do you mean?  I mounted my Windows partitions before installing so I could work while it went.
[06:15] <Artemis3> covert, on the other hand, gparted does shows a lock if the disk you intend to modify is mounted
[06:15] <TheVault> toma: trying now
[06:15] <gravemin1> eshaase: try doing ctrl-alt F2
[06:15] <gravemin1> or F3
[06:15] <_`XeOn_> mbac, i did it and it says compile first
[06:15] <mbac> haha what?
[06:15] <covert> Artemis3: I wasn't even altering the mounted drives.
[06:15] <mbac> that's crazy
[06:16] <gravemin1> eshaase: see if you have any consoles that have a login
[06:16] <TheVault> toma: no such file or directory
[06:16] <_`XeOn_> yep
[06:16] <_`XeOn_> i know right
[06:16] <NoodleCower> Is there something.. wrong with nickserv here?
[06:16] <Toma-> TheVault: did you extract the firefox archive INSIDE /opt?
[06:16] <Exershio> hey, can somebody help me? I'm trying to upgrade firefox from 1.5 to 2.0, but I dunno how. XD I'm new to linux
[06:16] <TheVault> yeah
[06:16] <Toma-> whats in /opt now?
[06:16] <TheVault> checking
[06:17] <TheVault> just my tar.gz file of firefox 2.0.0.2
[06:17] <Artemis3> Exershio, what version of ubuntu?
[06:17] <Exershio> you trying to upgrade too?
[06:17] <Toma-> well untar it there...
[06:17] <eshaase> gravemin1: i can't even boot in recovery mode =(
[06:17] <_`XeOn_> mbac, this... configure: error: *** Please compile setupdb first!
[06:17] <TheVault> i did
[06:17] <rmathews> crimsun: FATAL: Module snd_trident is in use.
[06:17] <TheVault> lemme do again
[06:17] <gravemin1> eshaase: but the live cd worked well?
[06:17] <eshaase> gravemin1: yep 6.10
[06:17] <tj239> Exershio, you know what synaptic is?   make sure 'universe' is used
[06:17] <mbac> xeon, what are you trying to install?
[06:18] <Artemis3> the easiest past would be to simply have backports in your repositories
[06:18] <Artemis3> path
[06:18] <eshaase> gravemin1: actually i used the alternate install because of my lvm requirements
[06:18] <Artemis3> ^^;
[06:18] <_`XeOn_> mbac, loki
[06:18] <gravemin1> eshaase: well I don't know anything about lvm, and I've tried everything I know
[06:18] <Artemis3> then firefox 2 will appear as any other update
[06:18] <crimsun> rmathews: kill the applications using it.
[06:19] <TheVault> toma: it will not allow me to extract things in the opt folder
[06:19] <brandon_> Crimsun: Alright, I am now logged in using generic kernel
[06:19] <Toma-> TheVault: like is aid, use sudo to extract it...
[06:19] <Bacta> how can I make my Ubuntu partition smaller?
[06:19] <gravemin1> eshaase: you might have a faulty install, or you have some hardware problem or quirk
[06:19] <Exershio> okay artemis, I'll try that
[06:19] <crimsun> brandon_: follow the DebuggingSoundProblems wiki page, again.
[06:19] <covert> Between Herd 4 and Herd 5, was the new system manager removed?  It would appear so from the live CD...
[06:19] <TheVault> how do i do that?
[06:19] <Artemis3> Bacta, use gparted live cd
[06:19] <Bacta> Artemis3 can I PM you?
[06:19] <brandon_> Crimsun: Alright, what was the pasting webpage again?
[06:19] <Artemis3> what for?
[06:20] <crimsun> brandon_: pastebin.ca
[06:20] <Bacta> is it the only way?
[06:20] <Bacta> can I do it through Windows?
[06:20] <Toma-> TheVault: 'sudo tar -zxvf your-firefox-archive.tar.gz'
[06:20] <gravemin1> eshaase: you could try installing DSL linux to see if another linux distro will work, but other than that... I don't know.
[06:20] <gravemin1> eshaase: sorry I couldn't help more
[06:20] <TheVault> doing so now
[06:20] <Artemis3> partition manager is simillar, but it has failed so many times to me that i wouldn't tell you to use it
[06:20] <Artemis3> er
[06:20] <Artemis3> partition magic
[06:20] <Artemis3> :P
[06:20] <jcol07> covert: try  #ubuntu+1
[06:20] <Bacta> ok gparted then
[06:20] <gravemin1> gparted is pretty cool!
[06:21] <Artemis3> a bit silent at times, but yes
[06:21] <Exershio> artemis, all I see under the package manager is firefox 1.5
[06:21] <Exershio> there is no 2.0
[06:21] <Exershio> =/
[06:21] <Artemis3> what ubuntu version is that?
[06:21] <gravemin1> Exershio: go to the firefox page and download the binaries
[06:21] <Artemis3> did you added backports and refreshed?
[06:21] <fokuslee> gravemin1:  is gparted packaged with ubuntu live cD?
[06:21] <Exershio> graveminl, I downloaded the tar.gz file
[06:21] <Exershio> but what do I do with it?
[06:21] <gravemin1> fokuslee: yes, I'm pretty sure
[06:21] <Exershio> artemis, I have 6.06
[06:22] <Artemis3> see? then you dont have the backports do you?
[06:22] <gravemin1> Exershio: I don't know about that, did you click on the big green button?
[06:22] <Exershio> lemme try that
[06:22] <fokuslee> gravemin1:  yeah ur rite i will just use that then cuz i was thinking of dl gparted livecd off their site
[06:22] <TheVault> toma: now there is a firefox folder in my home directory
[06:22] <eshaase> gravemin1: its ok, thanks
[06:23] <Toma-> TheVault: thats because you already ran that untar in your home directory. get rid of it
[06:23] <erudified> Does anyone know how 'preload' works?
[06:23] <erudified> Does it provide a noticable speedup?
[06:23] <covert> #ubuntu+1 is empty...
[06:23] <eshaase> i just finished installing ubuntu and i booted up my new system... it loads the splash screen and then dissappears only to show a console with a blank screen a blinking underscore cursor in the top-left corner of the screen, any ideas? i have a feeling its lvm-related
[06:23] <gravemin1> fokuslee: ok, just remember you can't change any mounted partitions
[06:23] <mbac> what package has the pictures of naked people in it?
[06:23] <TheVault> toma: no i didn't
[06:23] <gravemin1> fokuslee: sometimes it's better to use the live cd
[06:23] <TheVault> never extracted it there
[06:23] <Artemis3> Exershio, see this evil line in your sources.list? deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:23] <jcol07> its the feisty channel ... sometimes there's not much discussion
[06:24] <jcol07> not empty though
[06:24] <gravemin1> mbac: lol
[06:24] <fokuslee> u mean the gparted livecd or ubuntu live cd? both only mounts the cd rom so i don't really get what your saying
[06:24] <covert> i can tell...yay...3 hours later, the install is complete...i'm sure no average user would wait that long though....
[06:24] <Exershio> artemis, I dunno what you're talking about
[06:24] <Exershio> x_x
[06:24] <mbac> is it under Education?
[06:24] <Artemis3> ah, he means the ubuntu backgrounds
[06:24] <covert> and i know its not empty, but there is no discussion
[06:24] <gravemin1> fokuslee: I meant the ubuntu live cd. It has gparted
[06:24] <Toma-> TheVault: ok, its pretty simple. 1. use 'sudo mv' to move your file to /opt. 2. use 'cd /opt' to get into /opt. 3. use 'sudo tar -zxvf' to untar the firefox dir.
[06:24] <TheVault> toma: in my home folder, there is a lock on that folder and it won't let me delete it
[06:24] <j3g> could anyone recommend me a USB wireless wifi adapter that works good on linux? i also need wpa support....
[06:24] <ToddEDM> so i install ubuntu on my lAptop.... no sound, or grafx card drivers.....install it on my desktopPC.... no internet, how nice
[06:25] <Toma-> TheVault: then use sudo to 'rm -r' it
[06:25] <_`XeOn_> mbac, what naked ppl :P
[06:25] <fokuslee> gravemin1: yeah so i can run that off in live cd mode and change my partition on harddisk safely rite ?  i made the mistake of fsck my mounted drive before bad idea
[06:25] <ToddEDM> can someone help me get internet on this machine please
[06:25] <gravemin1> fokuslee: yeah, that's right
[06:25] <Artemis3> Exershio, hehehe i though so... see there is this text file in /etc/apt folder called sources.list, if you edit this file and add this line, the magic could work. I think you can do the same from synaptic tho, using the configuration repositories settings
[06:25] <ubuntu_no_worky> HA!!!
[06:26] <gravemin1> fokuslee: if you're worried at all, better do a backup than lose your data
[06:26] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: whats the problem?
[06:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> almost got it working 90%
[06:26] <Exershio> artemis3, I'll try that, just a sec
[06:26] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL, i just cant get online
[06:26] <gravemin1> fokuslee: I've never had an accident, but I've heard that they happen
[06:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> I formatted it to fat32
[06:26] <_`XeOn_> ubuntu_no_worky, go back to microsoft
[06:26] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: ethernet or wireless?
[06:26] <ToddEDM> i just installed it a minute ago
[06:26] <ubuntu_no_worky> and used a script for windows drives
[06:26] <ToddEDM> wireless... it worked when i used the live CD
[06:26] <Artemis3> Exershio, from the command line, it would be as simple as gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <Toma-> TheVault: sorry, ive got to run. good luck
[06:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> lol@xeon
[06:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> no wonder linux isn't taking off
[06:27] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: try installing the networkmanager applet
[06:27] <TheVault> toma: Thanks for the help :D
[06:27] <tritium> ubuntu_no_worky: please quit trolling
[06:27] <TheVault> later
[06:27] <Artemis3> what?
[06:27] <ubuntu_no_worky> im not trolling u and xeon r
[06:28] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL.. thats under applications > add/remove
[06:28] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know how to see how much free space a fat32 part has?
[06:28] <ToddEDM> ?
[06:28] <tritium> ubuntu_no_worky: df should work for any partition type
[06:28] <Artemis3> all usb thingies i plug in ubuntu get automounted, except ntfs
[06:28] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:28] <Exershio> artemis3, I have the file opened
[06:28] <Exershio> what do I add to it again?
[06:29] <Artemis3> add the line
[06:29] <Artemis3> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:29] <ba5e> I have found Ubuntu wont boot with a PCI graphics card!!!!!!!! help!
[06:29] <Artemis3> then save it
[06:29] <Artemis3> and issue this command: apt-get update
[06:29] <tritium> ba5e: sure it will
[06:29] <fokuslee> thx gravemin1 yeah back-up data often is the golden rule althou im too lazy to follow it i nuked my system anytimes already lol
[06:29] <Artemis3> no wait
[06:29] <ubuntu_no_worky> thanks
[06:29] <Artemis3> its sudo apt-get update
[06:29] <ubuntu_no_worky> how can i get a fat32 partition to show up in computer?
[06:29] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL Network manager cannot be instslled on my type of computer (i386)
[06:29] <Artemis3> or go to synaptic and push "refresh"
[06:29] <Exershio> okay
[06:30] <Artemis3> (its the same)
[06:30] <Exershio> it's loading a bunch of stuff
[06:30] <ba5e> tritium: its on a new core2duo - have no PCI-E card yet - X will not load
[06:30] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL thats the error i get
[06:30] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: yes it can
[06:30] <ba5e> blank screen
[06:30] <gravemind> i keep getting kicked from irc'
[06:30] <Artemis3> you are not behaving then?
[06:30] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL im not lying to you
[06:30] <ToddEDM> lol
[06:30] <bakefy> what is the command to get a hard drive to mount on startup?
[06:30] <aSt3raL> haha
[06:30] <Artemis3> irc is a great place if you can remain cool
[06:30] <gravemind> Artemis3: i think my wireless is to blame
[06:30] <aSt3raL> what command did you run?
[06:31] <ba5e> tritium: im on the live CD btw
[06:31] <ToddEDM> i went into the add/remove applications
[06:31] <Exershio> artemis3, wait, I'm confused, what do I do after adding that line and saving it? XD
[06:31] <ba5e> tritium: is there somewhere I can look to diagnose the situation
[06:31] <ToddEDM> found it , and tried to install it
[06:31] <Artemis3> well
[06:31] <bakefy> I mounted it... but then everytime I restart it is not mounted again
[06:31] <gravemind> Artemis3: my wireless connection hiccups a lot] '
[06:31] <Artemis3> go to synaptic
[06:31] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM:  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[06:31] <tritium> ba5e: where is it failing?
[06:31] <Exershio> okay
[06:32] <Artemis3> Exershio, or wait for update-manager, or invoke it
[06:32] <ba5e> tritium: I get the splash screen, then when X starts, just a blank screen, however I can hear X starting up in the background
[06:32] <Exershio> I'll try that
[06:32] <ba5e> or a lot of hdd access
[06:32] <brandon__> Crimsun: Sorry for the delay
[06:32] <brandon__> Crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380637
[06:32] <ba5e> & the CDROM of course
[06:32] <gravemind> ba5e: try pressing ctrl alt f1
[06:32] <gyaresu> Anyone one here with 'factoid' adding permissions? I thing a 'preface' factoid would be handy, in reference to prefacing ones comments with the 'nick' of the intended recipient.
[06:33] <ba5e> of course the other tty's
[06:33] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: then run nm-applet
[06:33] <arooni> what is the best visio type clone we have
[06:33] <Exershio> I opened up software updates, and it only shows 1.5 still
[06:33] <Exershio> o_O
[06:33] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL, error: couldnt find package network-manager
[06:33] <arooni> or is there a web clone that does that
[06:33] <ba5e> gravemind: im sure I tried that...humm
[06:33] <Artemis3> Exershio, else upgrade to edgy ;)
[06:33] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: you need to update your repository list
[06:33] <gravemind> ba5e: what does tty stand for btw
[06:33] <Exershio> I would do that, but I've heard people had problems with it
[06:34] <gravemind> ba5e: im still kind of new'
[06:34] <tritium> ba5e: /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be the first place to look
[06:34] <ba5e> its an S3 Savage PCI gfx card.....maybe its just not compatible
[06:34] <Xenguy> arooni: there is 'dia' - I don't know how mature it is
[06:34] <crimsun> brandon__: I presume muting 'IEC958' doesn't help?
[06:34] <ToddEDM> cant get online to do it :P
[06:34] <j3g> could anyone recommend me a USB wireless wifi adapter that works good on linux? i also need wpa support....
[06:34] <Artemis3> test with the desktop cd (live) and see if everything works
[06:34] <brandon__> Crimsun: Do you mean unchecking that check box in the volume dialog?
[06:34] <ray_> i just installed ubuntu on a second hard drive, but i never got an option to install grub... why? help????
[06:34] <Exershio> alright, that'll be a big file to download
[06:34] <Exershio> XD
[06:34] <crimsun> brandon__: err, sure...
[06:34] <gravemind> j3g try to get intel or atheros chipsets
[06:34] <Artemis3> do you really need fx 2.0?
[06:35] <ba5e> gravemind: terminal
[06:35] <Exershio> no, I just like to stay with the latest updates
[06:35] <Exershio> =P
[06:35] <j3g> gravemind: but how to know ?
[06:35] <gyaresu> crimsun: Sorry to bother but do you have 'factoid' adding powers?
[06:35] <Exershio> didn't think it'd be so hard
[06:35] <Artemis3> you get security updates
[06:35] <Artemis3> its not hard at all
[06:35] <Exershio> I have firefox-2.0.0.2.tar.gz on my desktop
[06:35] <Exershio> I downloaded it earlier
[06:35] <Exershio> anything I can do with it?
[06:35] <crimsun> gyaresu: as much as the next person (i.e., no). I can propose that something be added.
[06:35] <ba5e> tritium: gravemind thanks, will try this laters :)
[06:35] <Artemis3> you can use it but its not elegant
[06:35] <gravemind> j3g: there's a big list on the ndiswrapper wiki - try there
[06:35] <brandon__> Crimsun: No, doesn't help
[06:36] <Artemis3> besides, fx 3 is on the corner
[06:36] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL why would it work on the liv CD then not on the install
[06:36] <Exershio> alright
[06:36] <j3g> gravemind: ok... that would require ndiswrapper or would it also list the ones with native support?
[06:36] <Exershio> I'll just stick with 1.5 then
[06:36] <Exershio> XD
[06:36] <Artemis3> so why bother if you can do things with 1.5
[06:36] <chibiace> Exershio: there will be a file inside it telling you how to install usually
[06:36] <crimsun> brandon__: ok, then you'll need 1.0.14rc2. Compile it for your current kernel.
[06:36] <Exershio> thanks for your time
[06:36] <Exershio> chibiace, unfortunately there isn't =p
[06:36] <Artemis3> for ease is better to stick with ubuntu packages
[06:36] <crimsun> brandon__: be sure you do it carefully. If you have _any_ questions, ask me before doing something.
[06:36] <ray_> i just installed ubuntu on a second hard drive, but i never got an option to install grub... why? help????
[06:36] <chibiace> Exershio: their website.
[06:36] <brandon__> Crimsun:  Is it ok to use the standard ./configure command without additional parameters?
[06:36] <crimsun> brandon__: no.
[06:37] <Artemis3> upgrade to edgy, then to feisty when its released
[06:37] <Exershio> chibiace, their linux instructions are blank for some reason
[06:37] <brandon__> crimsun: Which parameters should I use?
[06:37] <gravemind> j3g: intel and atheros (and a few others) don't need ndiswrapper, but the list might tell you which cards have which chipsets
[06:37] <gyaresu> crimsun: ah. Well I thing a 'preface' factoid would be handy in regards to comments and prefacing with the nick of the recipient. With perhaps a reference to TAB completion.
[06:37] <Artemis3> and you get more than just fx
[06:37] <Exershio> I'll just stick with what I have and upgrade to edgy later
[06:37] <Exershio> thank you for all your time everybody
[06:37] <j3g> gravemind:  ok :) thank you !
[06:37] <Artemis3> np
[06:37] <chibiace> Exershio: 1.5 works fine
[06:37] <crimsun> brandon__: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-debug=full --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[06:37] <doobz> oi
[06:37] <crimsun> brandon__: note that you'll need linux-headers-generic installed prior
[06:37] <Artemis3> yes indeed, only outstanding thing would be the spell checking and you can add that as an extension
[06:38] <brandon__> crimsun: should I just do driver or other parts too?
[06:38] <chibiace> Exershio: edgy has 2 i think
[06:38] <gravemind> j3g: the only usb wireless card I've tried is the linksys WUSB54gv2, which works with ndiswrapper, but it's not a picnic to config :P
[06:38] <crimsun> brandon__: solely alsa-driver 1.0.14rc2
[06:38] <Exershio> chibiace: okay, thanks. I'm gonna upgrade to edgy once I download it
[06:38] <gravemind> j3g: thats why i'd suggest getting one that is automatically detected
[06:38] <Artemis3> hmm
[06:38] <chibiace> Exershio: you can upgrade if you get dapper installed
[06:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FIXED IT!!!
[06:39] <Exershio> chibiace: I have dapper installed, but I've heard people having problems upgrading from dapper to edgy
[06:39] <ray_> does anyone know much about grub, and why it wouldn't give me an option to install it when i install ubuntu?
[06:39] <chibiace> Exershio: update-manager with a flags like -c -d
[06:39] <ubuntu_no_worky> is there a scandisk utility for fat32 in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Artemis3> Exershio, if you have patience: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052
[06:39] <ToddEDM> ray, it does
[06:39] <gravemind> ray_: it normally installs...
[06:39] <chibiace> Exershio: generally it should go ok.
[06:39] <Exershio> I have patience, I'll check that out
[06:39] <ray_> it did not for me
[06:39] <ToddEDM> right after the partitioning
[06:39] <ray_> that's the problem
[06:39] <ToddEDM> yes it did
[06:40] <gravemind> ray_ did you use live install
[06:40] <ray_> yes
[06:40] <ToddEDM> it tells you grub will be installed on hd0
[06:40] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: iwconfig
[06:40] <gravemind> then it probably did. check synaptic
[06:40] <ToddEDM> thx aSt3raL
[06:40] <ray_> it didn't though
[06:40] <brandon__> crimsun: what is the command for the headers?
[06:40] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: heh did you figure it out?
[06:40] <bulmer> ray_: have you booted off of the new install yet?
[06:40] <ray_> windows starts normally on my first hard drive with no choice of selecting ubuntu
[06:40] <ToddEDM> no aSt3raL
[06:40] <chibiace> Exershio: ive upgraded 5 machines and the only problem was having a powercut
[06:41] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: so why the thx?
[06:41] <ToddEDM> i thought you left, i was about to give up
[06:41] <aSt3raL> haha
[06:41] <ToddEDM> thx for coming back
[06:41] <Artemis3> chibiace, you need an ups
[06:41] <ToddEDM> lol
[06:41] <gravemind> ray_: in that case, run the live cd again, and see what's up
[06:41] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: iwconfig to find the interface name
[06:41] <Exershio> chibiace: I just installed ubuntu earlier today, so I suppose there's no harm in trying
[06:41] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: then iwlist interfacename scan
[06:41] <ray_> i tried that. this is the second go
[06:41] <ray_> same result - no grub
[06:41] <ToddEDM> ok i got all the info up, what is it you need to know?
[06:41] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: it should be something like eth1 or wlan0
[06:41] <chibiace> Artemis3: i got 2 but they have dead batteries anyway it doesnt happen often
[06:42] <gravemind> ray_ can you see the the two partitions in the live cd?
[06:42] <ToddEDM> yerah eth1
[06:42] <Artemis3> Exershio, if you dont mind wiping your hd, you might want to get the cd image instead
[06:42] <chibiace> Exershio: fresh installs work much better.
[06:42] <ray_> yes, i can see sda and hdb
[06:42] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: iwlist eth1 scan
[06:42] <Maarten> Hey, is the download driver from ATI any better then the one that comes with kubuntu?
[06:42] <chibiace> Exershio: for upgrading
[06:42] <Exershio> chibiace: I didn't really do anything on ubuntu so far except installing XChat
[06:42] <Exershio> so would it be fine that way?
[06:42] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: do you see your wireless network there?
[06:42] <ray_> and i can see that ubuntu has been installed on hdb
[06:42] <fokuslee> ray_ i think itz because the grub is installed on the second harddisk but ur booting from the MBR of the first harddisk withc have the windows boot loader
[06:42] <ToddEDM> no scan results, it says
[06:42] <crimsun> brandon__: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic
[06:42] <winchester> Heya.... where can I add a command to be executed when ubuntu boots?
[06:42] <chibiace> Exershio: gksu 'update-manager -c -d'
[06:42] <IgorSobreira> hey,....anybody could give me a good sources.list??? is the same in kubuntu??
[06:42] <Artemis3> ah well then its ok both ways, probably ...
[06:42] <gravemind> ray_: hmm, that's strange, I don't know why you don't see grub, but I do know something you can try...
[06:43] <Artemis3> but its always nice to have the cd
[06:43] <Dr_willis> IgorSobreira,  identical.
[06:43] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: that means your wireless card cant see the wireless network
[06:43] <bulmer> ray_ you can also run grub-install
[06:43] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: what wireless drivers are you using?
[06:43] <Artemis3> Exershio, with the cd, you can test before you install
[06:43] <fokuslee> bulmer doesn't ray need supergrub or grub livecd for that?
[06:43] <eshaase> the main/alternative installer (6.10) doesn't allow the type of lvm config i'm trying to setup so I boot into the livecd of 6.06 and manually setup my lvm config, then i install using the 6.10 alternative installer and proceed with my lvm/partition config, is there anything that i'm doing that i shouldn't?
[06:43] <IgorSobreira> Dr_willis: can you send me yours..mine are not good....i can find most programs
[06:43] <gravemind> ray_: super grub disk: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/
[06:43] <Exershio> artemis3: I think I'll try that
[06:44] <bulmer> fokuslee: it should be on the liveCD
[06:44] <ray_> do i need to change the start up sequence to load ubuntu first?
[06:44] <brophat> hey
[06:44] <ToddEDM> aSt3raL, i have no idea, it was working in the CD so i thought it would work here
[06:44] <Dr_willis> IgorSobreira,  that 'easysource' site lets you make them.. You shoudl read the wiki/docs on how to enable the other repositories.. its not hard to do.
[06:44] <Exershio> chibiace: I ran that command software updates came up, but no Ubuntu Edgy
[06:44] <gravemind> ray_: that might fix it, but I don't know why the install doesn't work the way it should
[06:44] <Dr_willis> IgorSobreira,  you mean you "CANT" find most programs?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:44] <chibiace> Exershio: you may have to upgrade update-manager
[06:44] <Artemis3> Exershio, then simply load the desktop cd, use the gparted to delete your current ubuntu partitions, and start the installer, tell it to use the free available space (unpartitioned space)
[06:44] <fokuslee> bulmer ok but i still think ray just installed grub to the MBR of the second hard disk just switch boot order of disk see if u can see grub menu
[06:45] <Artemis3> Exershio, that is, with the Edgy Eft Desktop cd
[06:45] <the_stig> Hey fellas
[06:45] <Exershio> chibiace: I'll just do what artemis3 is saying, thanks for your time
[06:45] <ubuntu_no_worky> is it possible to scandisk a fat32 parition in edgy?
[06:45] <ray_> i'll try that, as well as that super grub disk. thank you
[06:45] <the_stig> when i install ubuntu can i choose to keep XP on a seperate partition
[06:45] <Artemis3> sure
[06:45] <the_stig> or do i have to do it myself..
[06:45] <gravemind> ray_: good luck
[06:45] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: if you cant install a wireless driver you can still use the windows wireless driver for the wireless card using a program called ndiswrapper
[06:45] <ray_> can i ask a related question?
[06:45] <gravemind> ask
[06:46] <ToddEDM> it needs to be installed, cause i cant download it
[06:46] <ToddEDM> .
[06:46] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, only its not called scandisk but fsck.vfat
[06:46] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, and you can not have them mounted!
[06:46] <ray_> when looking at the startup sequence earlier, it's showing that the second, ide drive isn't present, when it clearly is
[06:46] <brandon__> crimsun: sudo make install
[06:46] <brandon__> crimsun: or some other parameters?
[06:46] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:46] <ray_> wut up wit dat?
[06:46] <ubuntu_no_worky> oh
[06:46] <Artemis3> ...
[06:46] <ubuntu_no_worky> ill just make a bootdisk
[06:46] <ubuntu_no_worky> thankies
[06:46] <Artemis3> use the desktop cd then
[06:47] <Artemis3> or any other live cd
[06:47] <Artemis3> its the same
[06:47] <aSt3raL> ToddEDM: i have to go.. good luck
[06:47] <gravemind> ray_: so you have two drives? which startup sequence isn't showing it? BIOS?
[06:47] <ray_> yes, bios
[06:47] <ray_> yes two drives
[06:47] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, are you scared of unmounting too?
[06:47] <billy> greetings earthlings.
[06:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> yeah
[06:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> I finally got it working
[06:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> with a script
[06:47] <funesto> hey guys i really need some help installing ubuntu.. i've tried dapper.. edgy.. 64 bit at 32 bit and none of them work :(
[06:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> i dun wanna mess it up
[06:47] <Artemis3> haha
[06:47] <ubuntu_no_worky> had to change it to fat32
[06:48] <ubuntu_no_worky> to get it to work
[06:48] <ToddEDM> thx aSt3raL
[06:48] <brandon__> crimsun: should I sudo make install?
[06:48] <gravemind> ray: maybe your bios is old or broken? if that's the problem, you could get a working ubuntu install by putting it on the first disk, and using the second as storage
[06:48] <crimsun> brandon__: no, have you done ``make'' already?
[06:48] <brandon__> crimsun: yes
[06:48] <ToddEDM> why does installing ubuntu need to be so tough
[06:48] <funesto> i've tried using the alternate cd.. and it says that i have an uncommon cdrom.. and i have no clue what im supposed to do from there
[06:48] <Artemis3> it is?
[06:48] <crimsun> brandon__: then use ``sudo make install-modules''
[06:48] <nichos> evening all, i have a 4 button mouse (left, right, scroll button, and another one by the thumb). How can i get the thumb button working? I tried xmodemap 1 2 3 4, no luck
[06:48] <ray_> gravemind: no go there, the wife is a windows user
[06:49] <Artemis3> seemed pretty easy to me, maybe slow but not tough
[06:49] <ray_> i need it for photoshop. web designer
[06:49] <chibiace> ToddEDM: sometimes it can be hard
[06:49] <gravemind> ray_: no, you can have windows and ubuntu on the same disk, with partitons
[06:49] <brandon__> crimsun: ok, done
[06:49] <Artemis3> or with qemu...
[06:49] <crimsun> brandon__: now, ``sudo depmod -e''
[06:49] <ray_> gravemind: i understand, but the first hard drive is close to capacity as it is
[06:50] <brandon__> crimsun: done
[06:50] <chibiace> qemu has horrible performance
[06:50] <ToddEDM> yeah, laptop, the sound doenst work... PC, the wireless card wont work... problems always
[06:50] <Artemis3> you might even pull something off using wine, with luck
[06:50] <ray_> gravemind: the computer is a dell and only a year old
[06:50] <chibiace> ToddEDM: its just the hardware, like mine works out of the box, but many others dont
[06:50] <crimsun> brandon__: now, reboot.
[06:50] <balthazar> #ubuntu -arkansas
[06:50] <funesto> anyone? =\
[06:50] <ubuntu_no_worky> is 512mb enough for ubuntu
[06:50] <ubuntu_no_worky> ?
[06:50] <Artemis3> yes
[06:51] <ToddEDM> none of my equipment is obscure
[06:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> kk thanks
[06:51] <ray_> gravemind: if the pins are not placed correctly would that screw with bios not seeing it?
[06:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> it just seems slower than win2k
[06:51] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyway to speed it up?
[06:51] <the_stig> do i have to burn the image onto a CD to run the setup?
[06:51] <Artemis3> hmm
[06:51] <ray_> pins or jumpers (whatever they're called)
[06:51] <gravemind> ray_: how close is it to capacity? because I don't know how to fix bios, but I do know that you can install ubuntu on a pretty small space, and then use the second drive for space
[06:51] <chibiace> ubuntu_no_worky: the graphics are somewhat better.
[06:51] <Artemis3> you could use a light theme
[06:51] <Artemis3> and turn off those silly metacity animations
[06:52] <Lag117> hello, I'm trying to install package vnc4server but it doesn't seem to be there. What's equivalent package?
[06:52] <the_stig> just wonderin.. do i have to burn the image onto a CD to run the setup? i ran outta cds :\
[06:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> which is the best theme for speed clearlooks?
[06:52] <chibiace> minimal
[06:52] <eshaase> is there any special things that I have to take into consideration when setting up an LVM system? i remember reading that /boot can't exist in the lvm or something like that
[06:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> i see mist but not minimal
[06:52] <ubuntu_no_worky> ?
[06:53] <Artemis3> mist is light too
[06:53] <ray_> gravemind: would a hard drive even work if the pins/jumpers/whatever aren't in the right place?
[06:53] <fokuslee> $ lsb_release
[06:53] <fokuslee> No LSB modules are available.
[06:53] <fokuslee>  what is the problem here/
[06:53] <chibiace> eshaase: from what ive seen you cant have boot in it because the lvm doesnt start at that stage. but i think the rest of the drive can be lvm
[06:54] <gravemind> it sure wouldn't - but if you can detect it on the live cd, then it's probably in working order
[06:54] <fokuslee> ray_ just put both on cable select
[06:54] <brandon2> crimsun: I'm back
[06:55] <ubuntu_no_worky> anyone know other ways to speed up ubuntu?
[06:55] <fokuslee> install xfce and use that
[06:55] <gravemind> ray_: check your documentation and see if there's any way to fix bios if it's not working right
[06:55] <ubuntu_no_worky> i thought about it
[06:55] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, sure, run gconf-editor
[06:55] <gravemind> ubuntu_no_worky: buy more ram
[06:55] <fokuslee> ubuntu_no_worky:  i think itz a meta packge called xubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <K3nto> Could a wow user in here tell me about add ons in ubuntu
[06:56] <ray_> what about the power cords? there seem to be several inside for extra hard drives. would that throw it off? i'm just trying to eliminate all possiblities
[06:56] <ray_> gravemind: will def be doing that
[06:56] <Artemis3> ubuntu_no_worky, then go to apps -> metacity -> general and check reduced resources
[06:56] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, and DebuggingSoundProblems output?
[06:56] <gravemind> ray_: you could detect the second drive in the live cd right? if you could, it's probably connected alright
[06:56] <Artemis3> oh you could try xubuntu too
[06:56] <chibiace> xubuntu-desktop installs stuff like abiword too. and probably changes the splash screen
[06:57] <brandon2> crimsun: should I do all of the commands again and post the outputs?
[06:57] <crimsun> brandon2: only if audio remains inaudible.
[06:57] <Artemis3> i love xubuntu's boot
[06:57] <ryan_> can we speed up the ubuntu dappers boot up?
[06:57] <brandon2> crimsun: yes still inaduble, I will post commands
[06:57] <ray_> gravemind: it's sad, but i was actually hoping you'd say, nah, you hooked it up wrong. that way it would be an easy fix
[06:57] <brandon2> inaudible*
[06:57] <chibiace> xubuntu-desktop installs stuff like abiword too. and probably changes the splash screen;p suspend is good too
[06:57] <eshaase> my net installation freezes at 6% during the "Select and install software" phase with the words "Please wait..." can someone help?
[06:58] <chibiace> blah
[06:58] <gravemind> ray_: by all means, open up your case and check for loose cables if there's any doubt : )
[06:58] <fokuslee> ray_ yeah cable tie all the extra power plugs and unplug the windows installation harddisk see if it boots up
[06:58] <billy> ray_: be sure to unplug your machine first.  CPU fans draw blood.
[06:59] <ray_> easy fix! thanks! ....okay maybe not
[06:59] <eshaase> ahhh, it didn't freeze, its downloading files =)
[06:59] <Artemis3> ...
[06:59] <ray_> ha. always do unplug the computer...
[06:59] <ubuntu_no_worky> thanks
[06:59] <fokuslee> billy are u using a razer blade/ shaver as ur cpu fan?
[07:00] <gravemind> fokuslee: lol
[07:00] <ryan_> can we change the boot up screen?
[07:00] <kalorin> so anyone want to talk me out of using rsync to another disk in my box as a means to do backup?
[07:00] <ryan_> and make the boot up faster
[07:00] <gravemind> fokuslee: the latest technology in cooling systems
[07:00] <ray_> you guys have been super help. thank you so much
[07:00] <Dr_willis> ryan_,  the boot up screen aint goint to make things any faster ;)
[07:00] <fokuslee> haha gravemind ur funny
[07:00] <gravemind> ray_: you're welcome
[07:00] <cables> ryan_, you want to disable it?
[07:00] <kalorin> what i'm really looking for is a lazy mirror sort of backup strategy
[07:00] <Artemis3> kalorin, why? if that works for you then go ahead
[07:00] <thirdalbum> ryan_, you can turn off the boot up screen, but it won't make anything faster
[07:00] <kalorin> well that's the question
[07:01] <thirdalbum> ryan_, in your GRUB kernel arguments, get rid of the argument "splash".
[07:01] <bullgard3> What command will show the modules in my kernel?
[07:01] <ray_> i'll probably be on at a later time to ask more questions!
[07:01] <kalorin> if i rsync -Slutvprog /boot/ to /boot.bak/
[07:01] <cables> ryan_, you can disable it if you don't like it, but it really doesn't add much overhead.
[07:01] <kalorin> it's obviously not bootable
[07:01] <fokuslee> u can select the default and change the seletion timer to be shorter is that wut u mean?
[07:01] <brandon2> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380657
[07:01] <fokuslee> like 2 seconds instead of the defualt 30
[07:01] <eshaase> jeez, my net install is currently downloading the 565th package, how many are there!?!
[07:01] <fokuslee> but u gotta be a crazy gamer to select os dat fast lol
[07:01] <ryan_> yes buddies i know...wat i mean is in the new edgy they say they have made it faster(the boot-up)..i wanna make the dapper like tat..is it possible?
[07:01] <gravemind> ryan_: you can disable it and see what else is slowing your boot
[07:01] <kalorin> cause the partition isn't set to bootable and even if it was it wouldn't have the mbr set right
[07:01] <kalorin> i could use dd I guess
[07:02] <kalorin> dd /dev/sda > /dev/sdb
[07:02] <kalorin> :)
[07:02] <kalorin> but that'd be a TON of disk IO that should be necessary
[07:02] <bulmer> that wont work
[07:02] <Artemis3> well you can always install grub later
[07:02] <Dr_willis> i dont think ya yse > wth dd
[07:02] <Artemis3> its not unrecoverable
[07:02] <fokuslee> kalorin why are u dumping an entire disk?
[07:02] <kalorin> i'm not
[07:02] <Artemis3> just save /home
[07:03] <kalorin> at this point I'm doing nothing just trying to figure out what makes sense
[07:03] <kalorin> oh home is all part of /
[07:03] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, checking
[07:03] <gravemind> ryan_: to temporarily disable your spash screen and find out what is making your boot slow, press e at the grub menu when you restart. ( make sure to press esc first if it's hidden by default)
[07:03] <kalorin> I have /boot =100mb / = the rest
[07:03] <ryan_> guys!..help me out plz
[07:03] <theone> hello... how is everyone?
[07:03] <Artemis3> hmm /dev and /proc will complain...
[07:03] <techie> I recently downloaded a movie which had an *.exe file which required video codes... what does that mean?
[07:03] <kalorin> yeah
[07:03] <nwonknu-> private
[07:03] <theone> can someone help me please?
[07:03] <ryan_> thanx gravemind
[07:03] <kalorin> I told it to --exclude /dev/* and /proc/*
[07:03] <Dr_willis> techie,  that screams SPYWARE and VIRUS to me...
[07:03] <kalorin> though I guess I really do want dev
[07:03] <ChaseCharleville> Can someone help me out?
[07:04] <thirdalbum> theone, ask your question and then people may be able to help you :-)
[07:04] <Episcopus> i installed edgy yesterday, got my netgear ma311 working, downloaded all the updates to edgy and went to bed.  When i got up this morning, my wireless connection was dead.  The device manager shows that the card has been found, but it doesn't show up in the network list or iwconfig.  It shows a prism2 card loading in a PCI slot when i read dmesg.  The card is on the list of supported cards and is supposed to work out of th
[07:04] <Episcopus> make it work?
[07:04] <Artemis3> and /var is mostly useless
[07:04] <kalorin> otherwise I'll be unhappy if I have to restore from it
[07:04] <Dr_willis> techie,  seen a lot of stuff that way - that you do NOT want to run/use
[07:04] <gravemind> ryan_: then after you've pressed e, go to the kernel line, press e again, and delete the words "splash" and "quiet"
[07:04] <theone> i'm new to linux and i am trying to access my windows network...
[07:04] <theone> thank you
[07:04] <gravemind> ryan_: when you've done all that you can press b to start it up
[07:04] <fokuslee> theone samba
[07:04] <theone> it ask me for user name and a password and i put the one in from windows but it don't work
[07:04] <Artemis3>  /etc might be handy to save
[07:04] <fokuslee> !samba
[07:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:04] <kalorin> yeah
[07:04] <cables> theone, what are you trying to access on your windows network?
[07:04] <theone> what is samba?
[07:04] <theone> i'm totally new to this...
[07:04] <cables> !samba | theone
[07:04] <ubotu> theone: please see above
[07:04] <kalorin> the question is if the primary disk dies, what do I have to do to get it up and running on the backup disk
[07:04] <ChaseCharleville> I want to use ubuntu, but I need help installing
[07:04] <kalorin> I could mirror them I guess
[07:04] <theone> just my drive on my windows computer...
[07:05] <kalorin> but then I can't undelete a fat finger
[07:05] <_`XeOn_> theone, is kinda a brazilian dance
[07:05] <cables> theone, read what Ubotu sent you
[07:05] <cables> !samba > theone
[07:05] <techie> Dr_willis I used to see this in Windows and  although I might agree with you in what you are saying, it has to do with the type of "codecs" I believe that need to additionally be installed into windows. When I did everything worked fine but I do not know the counterpart for Ubuntu!!!
[07:05] <gravemind> theone: samba is the service/protocol/thingy linux uses to connect to windows
[07:05] <Artemis3> kalorin, let me suggest something easy and pretty: use gparted live cd and copy the partition
[07:05] <theone> ok.. cool!! that is a big big help!
[07:05] <cables> theone, hold on
[07:05] <fokuslee> techie movie should never come as .exe
[07:06] <kalorin> Artemis3, ok, and just do that every so often you're saying?
[07:06] <_`XeOn_> !samba | theone
[07:06] <ubotu> theone: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:06] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: what do you need help with?
[07:06] <kalorin> or just do it one time and then after that you'll be fine?
[07:06] <techie> fokuslee> thanks.
[07:06] <Artemis3> kalorin, well if its too often its not worth the trouble
[07:06] <cables> theone, you can access it usually through Places>Network Servers, but that doesn't work for everything. In that case, you can mount it as a drive on your computer.
[07:06] <kalorin> cause it can do it under the OS
[07:06] <theone> ok
[07:06] <techie> fokuslee>so a movie should then download as mpeg or avis?
[07:06] <ryan_> gravemind,  can we change the color or configure the console mode..i mean when we change from gnome to that..i wanna change the color of the font to green or blue or something for fun..can we plz?
[07:06] <kalorin> yeah that's the deal
[07:06] <Dr_willis> techie,  theres a lot of 'codecs' that are just wrappers around spyware
[07:06] <fokuslee> if its exe then probably have a spyware/virus in it
[07:06] <jhornick> anyone feel like helping with stepmania sound issues?
[07:06] <kalorin> ideally, it'd be a lazy mirror
[07:06] <Artemis3> but you could rsync only home and have the rest in a single copied partition
[07:07] <_`XeOn_> anyone got call of duty running on ubuntu?
[07:07] <Artemis3> ah well
[07:07] <zsh> hi is there a way the music i'm playing can be played on all the computers on the network? sort of like piped music but on computers :)
[07:07] <theone> you guys are a great help!!
[07:07] <billy> fokuslee, naw man.  just trust me.  that bad boy will draw blood.
[07:07] <fokuslee> techie depends maybe rar or ra1 tuff like dat
[07:07] <kalorin> btw, if anyone has a need, adobe's canon raw -> adobe dng runs just fine under wine
[07:07] <Dr_willis> techie,  some videos have a 'go to whatever.com and get this codec for the rest of the movie' - which is more spyware or worse
[07:07] <Artemis3> there are more methods involving dd, dump, etc
understood. So along those lines, do we need any type of antivirus even here in Ubuntus?
[07:07] <cables> zsh, you can stream it with VLC or something...
[07:07] <Dr_willis> techie,  not really
[07:07] <kalorin> if only linux supported dng for anything or could run photoshop elements under wine...
[07:07] <fokuslee> techie many formates like ogm
[07:07] <cables> techie, no, but sometimes it's good to have one, just so you don't forward a virus to a windows-using friend.
[07:08] <techie> that's a great idea. If so what is recommended for Ubuntu... I am using the 6.10 Edgy I think is called
[07:08] <fokuslee> !calmav
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calmav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <fokuslee> wut?
[07:08] <Artemis3> just support the projects involved like krita or gimp or gthumb or digikam, etc
[07:08] <_`XeOn_> !cedega
[07:08] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:08] <macd> !clamav
[07:08] <techie> any antivirus or protector then for Ubuntu?
[07:08] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:08] <gravemind> ryan_: lol, I've never tried that but it's probably possible. See if anyone else here knows, and google is your friend
[07:08] <zsh> cables, thanks
[07:08] <fokuslee> hahah i had a typo i was like bot is being stupid
[07:09] <cables> !clamav | techie
[07:09] <ubotu> techie: please see above
[07:09] <ryan_> gravemind, thanx ill find out
[07:09] <_`XeOn_> !wine
[07:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:09] <fokuslee> so i have a problem ~$ lsb_release
[07:09] <fokuslee> No LSB modules are available.
[07:09] <fokuslee> what?
[07:09] <ryan_> gravemind, i wanted to ask if we can transfer files thrugh ubuntu..i know dc and stuff but any easier options..
[07:09] <techie> cables where do you insert the !clamav command in terminal?
[07:10] <cables> techie, !clamav is not a terminal command.
[07:10] <gravemind> what do you mean through ubuntu?
[07:10] <fokuslee> !slap
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <techie> cables so how do I do it?
[07:10] <cables> techie, that was just to tell ubotu, the ubuntu infobot, to tell you about it
[07:10] <cables> techie, hold on
[07:10] <cables> !info clamav
[07:10] <anandanbu> how do i install beryl in ubuntu 6.10
[07:10] <fokuslee> techie just install it via synaptic
[07:10] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:10] <gravemind> techie: try sudo apt-get install clamav
[07:10] <gravemind> that usually works
[07:10] <techie> cables, I hear you thanks for the info.
[07:10] <cables> techie, gravemind, he has to have universe enabled
[07:11] <gravemind> cables: good call
[07:11] <cables> techie, Edgy or Dapper?
[07:11] <macd> techie, in a terminal "sudo apt-get install avscan"  for gnome.
[07:11] <techie> cables Edgy
[07:12] <cables> techie, macd is sorta wrong... we need to make sure of something first
[07:12] <cables> techie, go to System>Administration>Software Sources
[07:12] <techie> let me try to synap package first and see if it searches for it.
[07:12] <cables> techie, just go to the software sources first, to make sure we have Universe enabled.
[07:12] <aesiamun> hello
[07:13] <anandanbu> hi can anyone help me to install Beryl in ubuntu edgy eft
[07:13] <techie> Yes it is enable and the sources is from servers in US
[07:13] <aesiamun> not strictly ubuntu question, but how would I stop soundjuicer from opening when I insert an audio cd?
[07:13] <cables> techie, ok.
[07:13] <macd> anandanbu, you should join #ubuntu-effects
[07:13] <techie> cables, how indispensable is it to have this antivirus in your system?
[07:13] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, so you likely need a quirk.
[07:13] <cables> techie, in that case, install the package "avscan" with your preferred package manager. If you need help, I'll be right back.
[07:13] <crimsun> brandon2: please do the following:
[07:13] <anandanbu> thanks macd
[07:13] <techie> basically to avoid problems for window users or for ubuntu protection too?
[07:13] <cables> techie, it won't do anything for you, just people you communicate with. It's mainly so you don't forward a virus to a Windows user.
[07:13] <crimsun> brandon2: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=ref
[07:14] <techie> ok
[07:14] <cables> techie, i don't use it, because Gmail scans my email anyway.
[07:14] <xsist> how do you enable the multiverse?
[07:14] <macd> techie, its just a good practice since you interact with windows peers.
[07:14] <arrenlex> !multiverse | xsist
[07:14] <ubotu> xsist: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:14] <techie> cables... one final question is it safe to download movies in here and make sure we do not get any hackers etc....?
[07:14] <cables> xsist, are you using edgy or dapper?
[07:14] <techie> macd, understood, thanks.
[07:14] <xsist> thanks!
[07:14] <brandon2> crimsun: for the first command, I get this: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[07:15] <Episcopus> is anyone willing to help with wireless trouble in edgy?
[07:15] <xsist> feisty
[07:15] <xsist> herd 5
[07:15] <xsist> good stuff.
[07:15] <crimsun> brandon2: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*)
[07:15] <cables> techie, i don't understand that. I'll be right back, so hold on, then clarify please.
[07:15] <techie> cables... any recommended source for downloading safe movies
[07:15] <cables> techie, i dunno... your discretion.
[07:15] <aesiamun> techie, what kind of movies?
[07:15] <cables> xsist, if it's the same as on edgy, system>administration>software sources.
[07:15] <techie> regular thriller, action etc.... educational.
[07:15] <tehxed>  I'm having issues with my wireless chipset (on a laptop; the wireless card is a BCM4318). I have a Gateway MX7118 laptop with an Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 AMD 64 installation. I've tried the following link but with the 64bit drivers for the wireless card:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809    The wireless card does not show up when I check "Networking" under System Preferences... nor does it show up in t
[07:15] <tehxed>  he networking window manager (GUI).  Also, the LED which shows the wireless to be on isn't showing up, but I am told this is related to the drivers for the wireless card not funcitioning properly.
[07:16] <LILI> hieeeee...
[07:16] <Episcopus> tehxed: have you looked around here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs for help? lots of start info there
[07:16] <aesiamun> you mean stuff you would find at a movie theatre?  Bit torrent...
[07:16] <techie> cable.... not necessary though, I am so busy that probably won't even have the time to enjoy them.. Just curious!
[07:17] <aesiamun> find then torrents on your own :)
[07:17] <stfukthxlol> it isn't calculus@
[07:17] <brandon2> crimsun:  terminal gives me a kill usage message
[07:17] <crimsun> brandon2: lsmod |grep ^snd
[07:17] <techie> cable you back?
[07:17] <cables> techie, by the way, if you use gmail, you're already protected against sending windows viruses. Probably a lot of other email services do that too.
[07:17] <fokuslee> techie  u shouldn't discuss piracy on this channel
[07:18] <brandon2> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380671
[07:18] <techie> cables.... i do use gmail.
[07:18] <aesiamun> anyone know where i would go in gnome to stop soundjuicer from starting automatically when inserting an audio cd?
[07:18] <billy> aesiamun, are you using a main menu or a menu bar?
[07:18] <techie> fokuslee i did not think i was.... i have gone to places in windows where they offer old movies part of the public domain.... all legal and downloaable
[07:18] <xsist> got it.
[07:18] <cables> aesiamun, system>preferences>removeable drives and media
[07:19] <aesiamun> billy, what?  I put a cd in my cdrom drive and close it...poof!  up comes sound juicer
[07:19] <aesiamun> cables, thanks.
[07:19] <billy> aesiamun, what cables said.
[07:19] <cables> billy, :)
[07:19] <crimsun> brandon2: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[07:19] <fokuslee> techie i appoligize
[07:19] <techie> fokuslee, mainly trying to learn as much as i can about ubuntu. no need to apologize
[07:19] <brandon2> crimsun: done
[07:19] <aesiamun> techie: I still stick by my bittorrent answer :)
[07:19] <crimsun> brandon2: url?
[07:20] <brandon2> crimsun: no output
[07:20] <techie> aesianum I have heard of it but also you must spend time looking for the torrent etc.. where they are and the links. but I do understand.
[07:20] <stfukthxlol> lol
[07:20] <aesiamun> cables: that worked.  Thanks!
[07:20] <yeahlolgfsdf> lol
[07:20] <aozaki> Sorry I'm new to linux: I have an external hd that is currently set to "read-only" -- how do I change this? (chmod 777 doesn't seem to work)
[07:20] <crimsun> brandon2: hmm, then we need a different approach. Try this:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=ref" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[07:20] <stfukthxlol> lol
[07:20] <yeahlolgfsdf> lol
[07:20] <stfukthxlol> lol
[07:20] <stfukthxlol> lol
[07:20] <aesiamun> techie: there are lots of search engines for torrents on the net.  Google is your friend.
[07:21] <tehxed> Episcopus: The documentation for NdisWrapper on AMD64 is ...a bit uncertain
[07:21] <techie> anyone: a question about firefox mozilla browser... I read the stuff clearly but my wife tells me the letters are a bit fuzzy... any way to clear that. I wonder if it is the font or the resolution or what. Very subtle though, Have anyone encountered that?
[07:21] <brandon2> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380675
[07:21] <bulmer> aozaki: how did you mount it?
[07:21] <techie> aesianun i agree
[07:21] <Episcopus> tehxed: i can't really help then, i was just throwing that out there because that's where i started. i am having wifi trouble too
[07:21] <yeahlolgfsdf> lol
[07:21] <fokuslee> aozaki u have to umask it
[07:21] <aozaki> I just popped it in the usb port and it showed up
[07:21] <aozaki> umask?
[07:21] <tehxed> Episcopus: Thanks! Appreciate thehelp.
[07:21] <Openix> techie: install msfonts package
[07:22] <Episcopus> tehxed: i tried :)
[07:22] <techie> maybe that has been the problem Openix.
[07:22] <Openix> lol
[07:22] <cables> techie, there are several font packages you can install, I have a list that Automatix installs here if you want it.
[07:22] <crimsun> brandon2: good, now: sync
[07:22] <techie> Openix..... do you think this will solve the problem or do I have to do anything after the install>
[07:22] <crimsun> brandon2: then reboot
[07:22] <brandon2> crimsun: "sync" in terminal?
[07:22] <techie> cables... whatever you think is good for the eyes
[07:23] <crimsun> brandon2: yes
[07:23] <aozaki> fokuslee: how do i umask it?
[07:23] <cables> techie, here's what i installed, hold on a sec
[07:23] <brandon2> crimsun: ok brb
[07:23] <techie> cables... ok
[07:23] <techie> can i do it through the synaptic package installer?
[07:23] <techie> how about the msfont just mentioned by openix
[07:23] <cables> techie, use the terminal, it's much easier. That way you can just paste in the line I'll send to you.
[07:23] <techie> ?
[07:23] <techie> ok.
[07:24] <Openix> techie: msfonts make firefox text bettet for me - there is also a setting for text sharpness in fonts section of preferences menu i believe
[07:24] <jpoe> Is there any way/command to find out when a specific user last modified a file?  I know you can tell who owns a file, and when it was last modified, but is there any way to tell who last accessed a file if multiple people have permissions to it?
[07:24] <cables> techie, open a terminal to be ready: Applications>Accessories>Terminal. By the way, you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v
[07:24] <arrenlex> jpoe: ls -lc
[07:24] <kalorin> well, rsync seems to work really well until it hits the /dev area
[07:24] <kalorin> then it blows up on "non-regular" files
[07:24] <techie> cables which is the paste up
[07:25] <techie> what do I have to paste?
[07:25] <cables> techie, sudo aptitude install gsfonts-other msttcorefonts t1-xfree86-nonfree ttf-dustin ttf-f500 ttf-isabella ttf-larabie-deco ttf-larabie-straight ttf-larabie-uncommon ttf-staypuft ttf-summersby ttf-ubuntu-title ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfonts-artwiz xfonts-intl-european
[07:25] <navreet> how can I grab the 32bit package of libuuid?
[07:25] <navreet> (on 64 bit)
[07:25] <cables> what the hell is a nick collision from services?
[07:25] <cables> techie, you just missed that i think
[07:25] <arrenlex> cables: More than one techie on at the same time.
[07:26] <cables> arrenlex, and one is registered so he gets priority?
[07:26] <LILI> hie
[07:26] <Beverage> heyllo, was wondering if there are any quick fixes to the minor lag i get while gaming...?
[07:26] <Flannel> navreet: You just want to download it?
[07:26] <Episcopus> my wireless card is supposed to work out of the box and doesn't. can anyone try helping me fix it?
[07:26] <LILI> hie........
[07:26] <aesiamun> i thought you had to initiate a reclaim if your registered it.
[07:26] <navreet> Flannel, and grab the .lib file out of there
[07:26] <kalorin> Beverage,  sure, stop gaming :)
[07:26] <Flannel> navreet: Well, you can download it at packages.ubuntu.com (among others)
[07:26] <kalorin> that'll fix it every time
[07:27] <Flannel> navreet: but, that's probably the easiest way to grab it, without rolling up your sleeves
[07:27] <Beverage> kalorin, why? thats a stupid suggestion if there are all these emulators there must be away to get rid of the minor lag, im running a good gaming rig
[07:27] <fokuslee> aozaki:  umask=000 in fstab
[07:27] <arrenlex> cables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_takeover <-- second heading
[07:27] <cables> Is there any way to change the font in the TTY's? During bootup, it starts out sharp, but then it gets all anti-aliased in a bad way.
[07:27] <aesiamun> crap i'm having a hard time with wine.
[07:27] <kalorin> heh
[07:27] <navreet> Flannel, I can't find the binaries...
[07:27] <kalorin> emulation == lag
[07:27] <kalorin> them's the breaks
[07:27] <techie> cables the whole thing is being installed. how do i see later that it all worked
[07:28] <cables> techie, if you don't get any errors, it worked.
[07:28] <Openix> aesiamun: why you using wine?
[07:28] <cables> techie, msttcorefonts tends to take a long time,.
[07:28] <Flannel> navreet: Well, once you find the package at packages.ubuntu.com, scroll down to the bottom, and there'll be a little table where you can download the package
[07:28] <aesiamun> slingplayer
[07:28] <aesiamun> Openix: unfortunately slingmedia doesn't have a linux client yet
[07:28] <Artemis3> well depends what you are emulating, im sure old emulated systems can run faster or better ;)
[07:29] <brandon2> crimsun: back
[07:29] <Openix> aesiamun: never use wine, if i want windoae i vmware it
[07:29] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, any luck?
[07:29] <techie> cables. still doing its thing... now is at application/octet- stream
[07:29] <brandon2> crimsun: no :(
[07:29] <crimsun> brandon2: you know the drill...
[07:29] <cables> techie, it'll take a while.
[07:29] <aesiamun> Openix: vmware isn't gonna work with this...too slow...
[07:29] <brandon2> crimsun: on it
[07:29] <aesiamun> Openix:  It's streaming video
[07:30] <techie_> cables thanks again.
[07:30] <navreet> Flannel, was clicking on the wrong link
[07:30] <navreet> Flannel, thnx
[07:30] <arooni> what is a good winamp reaplacement for ubuntu?
[07:30] <Openix> aesiamun: have you tried
[07:30] <techie_> cables thanks for the private info.
[07:30] <aesiamun> no, but i only have 1GB of RAM in this box.
[07:30] <cables> !winamp | arooni
[07:30] <ubotu> arooni: winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[07:31] <aesiamun> i would think that would suck up ram like a motha...wouldn't it?
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[07:31] <arooni> cables: which is better
[07:31] <Openix> aesiamun: ok thought that would do
[07:31] <cables> arooni, I have no idea.
[07:31] <Artemis3> arooni, both are old, that ubotu info is outdated
[07:31] <aesiamun> Openix: server or workstation?
[07:31] <arrenlex> jpoe: Oh, I misunderstood what you wanted, sorry.
[07:31] <arooni> Artemis3: which woudl you install?>
[07:31] <Artemis3> arooni, maybe you want the trend: Amarok
[07:31] <Openix> aesiamun: server
[07:32] <aesiamun> Openix: I'll try it.
[07:32] <jpoe> Ah, no prob .. thanks for the attempt though
[07:32] <Openix> arooni: I run Exaile
[07:32] <aesiamun> actually...i have a vmware server box, a 4100+ with 3GB...i wonder if the network would slow it down too much.  Thanks, i'll try it.
[07:32] <Artemis3> ah yes, that too
[07:33] <techie_> cables some of the installation says no such file etc.... so I wondered how much will work and how much will not.
[07:33] <techie_> cables. not it is regenrating font cache
[07:33] <Openix> aesiamun: cool, i always advocate virtual technologies over wine
[07:33] <brandon2> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380681
[07:33] <techie_> setting up ttf-larabie-straight.... blablabla
[07:33] <cables> techie_, that's what happened to me, and it worked. Just let it do its thing.
[07:33] <aesiamun> Openix: yeah i wish we could virtualize 3d, then i could play eve again.
[07:33] <techie_> ok
[07:33] <brandon2> crimsun: this is taking a long time, I will give more if we can get it working
[07:33] <TridenT_Boy3555> Hey all
[07:34] <TridenT_Boy3555> I need a question answered now if possible.
[07:34] <Openix> aesiamun: read that vmware have a 3d version coming out
[07:34] <Vuen> hey guys, anyone know why i have a file in /media called ".hal-mtab-lock"?
[07:34] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, what's your Q?
[07:34] <aesiamun> Openix: i saw a demo of that.  I'll believe it when it's not on youtube and is sitting in front of me :)
[07:35] <Openix> aesiamun: lol
[07:35] <Openix> yeah
[07:35] <aesiamun> Openix: I'll renew my workstation license if it's that good.
[07:35] <TridenT_Boy3555> I have a Asus P5L-MX motherboard, this motherboard has the Attansic L1 Gigabit NIC built-in. It did not work out of the box because of drivers in windows XP. Now will it work in Ubuntu? If not, I need a way to get the driver onto the ubuntu install...Also I need to know how to install it because I am a total "noob."
[07:35] <Vuen> on a possibly related note, my cdrom won't mount. i put an ordinary data dvd in the drive, and it won't mount it or give me the pop up to view the files. i've tried a few different dvds that i know work. anyone know what's wrong?
[07:35] <Openix> aesiamun: i run server cause its free
[07:35] <aesiamun> Openix: I have both because workstation is more friendly when it comes to developers and really getting into the vm.
[07:36] <Artemis3> TridenT_Boy3555, test booting from the ubuntu desktop cd to find out
[07:36] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, I have that exact same motherboard.
[07:36] <Openix> aesiamun: k
[07:36] <aesiamun> Openix: but server runs just as well for normal vms
[07:36] <jonno> can i hook up a second monitor(dual monitor) and have it work automatically?
[07:36] <TridenT_Boy3555> Billy: and
[07:36] <jonno> or would i have to configure it?
[07:36] <brandon2> crimsun: did you get the last url?
[07:36] <aesiamun> crap...my ubuntu server says I'm not in the sudoers list.
[07:36] <Artemis3> tehehehe
[07:36] <techie_> cable what is a good program to burn an iso to cd?
[07:36] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, and I have XP installed.
[07:37] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: either you are a very thoughtful person or you are just really wanting to see how long you can prolong your statements.
[07:37] <techie_> or to open an iso in ubuntu?
[07:37] <Openix> aesiamun: im impressed with vmware - but virtualbox is looking better everyday and is being included in feisty so i hear
[07:37] <Artemis3> open as in viewing the contents?
[07:37] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, I'm just saying that that may not be your problem.
[07:37] <jonno> Hey
[07:37] <jonno> i have a question
[07:37] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: Yea and
[07:37] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: I installed drivers then it worked billy.
[07:37] <cables> jonno, ask it
[07:37] <jonno> can i hook up a second monitor(dual monitor) and have it work automatically?
[07:37] <jonno> or would i have to configure it?
[07:37] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, what's your problem again?
[07:38] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: Out of the box working in ubuntu
[07:38] <Artemis3> i think file-roller can "extract" from iso too
[07:38] <aesiamun> Openix: I tried xen but the 64bit xen kernel doesn't boot :(  Virtualbox looks good...Parallels is good too and the price is right...$80 is a steal especially because they give you a license that works in both windows and linux.
[07:38] <techie_> cables... I have an iso that need to burn to cd or open, which program do you recommend to do so?
[07:38] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: everything, like the NIC on the P5L-MX
[07:38] <Openix> aesiamun: neat
[07:38] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: because that sort of is helpful to have your NIC which is some-what uncommon to work out of the box since the CD that came with the motherboard does probably most likely not contain the Linux drivers for the NIC.
[07:38] <crimsun> brandon2: busy atm, will look asap
[07:38] <cables> techie_, just right click it, and click burn to disc. If that doesn't do it for you, you can use GnomeBaker
[07:38] <brandon2> crimsun: no problem
[07:39] <aesiamun> Openix: but i use parallels on my mac, vmware server on my vm server and about to use vmware server on this box.
[07:39] <techie_> Cables.... thanks. the fonts still doing its thing!
[07:39] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555, I don't think I can help.  Sorry.
[07:39] <TridenT_Boy3555> mmm
[07:39] <TridenT_Boy3555> well
[07:39] <Episcopus> anyone willing to help with a wireless card problem in edgy?
[07:39] <TridenT_Boy3555> You know of where I can get my drivers?
[07:40] <arooni> how do i get the media codecs i need (MP3, ogg etc...)?
[07:40] <techie_> cables.... it finally finished... how do I know whether those fonts you gave me worked or not?
[07:40] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555: no.  I don't know.  Sorry.  Mine worked fairly well, with just a touch of tweaking of the xserver and alsa.
[07:40] <crimsun> brandon2: can you set the levels for Master and PCM to both 100%, and also unmute LFE (and set it to 100%)?
[07:40] <jonno> Cables
[07:40] <cables> techie_, try a website, see how it looks... restart the browser first though
[07:40] <cables> jonno, ?
[07:40] <jonno> i asked
[07:40] <techie_> ok. i will try right now
[07:41] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555: have you tried the Asus homepage.
[07:41] <Openix> arooni: http://www.openix.co.nz/nonfreemedia.php
[07:41] <cables> jonno, that doesn't mean I can answer it. If someone can, they will. I was just telling you to ask your question to everyone.
[07:42] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: working on it.
[07:42] <brandon2> crimsun: no luck
[07:42] <brandon2> crimsun: what about iec958?
[07:42] <techie_> Cables... this is kind of interesting .... I have not even opened the browser but I noticed the following: My applications are now at the bottom of the monitor where before, it was all on top . strange but I had gotten used to it.
[07:42] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: no drivers on asus homepage for linux
[07:42] <sureshot> hey is there a way to run a make file like a line at a time to see why and ware your errors are
[07:42] <techie_> but this way is better
[07:42] <cables> techie, your applications menu?
[07:42] <cables> techie, you can change any of that.
[07:42] <billy> TridenT_Boy3555: hmm .... are you using Edgy?
[07:43] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: don't have it installed yet...6.10
[07:43] <crimsun> brandon2: you can try it, but it won't help (unless you have a _weird_ quirk)
[07:43] <cables> techie_, everything is totally configurable. You can move *anything* to any panel.
[07:43] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: If I did, I wouldn't be talking to you...I'd be out of business as far as communications via the internet would go.
[07:43] <brandon2> crimsun: no luck
[07:43] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: So yea, no clue if it's edgy or whatever
[07:44] <techie_> Cables, yes but when you gave me those fonts, the whole monitor rearranged itself in a neater way. must be the fonts
[07:44] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: I assume that is what you meant
[07:44] <TridenT_Boy3555> billy: real nub here
[07:44] <cables> techie_, that's really weird...
[07:44] <cables> techie_, do you mean that the menus moved or something?
[07:44] <cypher1> TridenT_Boy3555, lsb_release -c
[07:44] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, then likely you'll need to try hg alsa-driver and back out one patch
[07:45] <crimsun> brandon2: sudo aptitude install mercurial autoconf automake1.7
[07:45] <sureshot> hey is there a way to run a make file like a line at a time to see why and ware your errors are
[07:45] <TridenT_Boy3555>  cypher1: I'll try to remember that after I install ubuntu
[07:46] <TridenT_Boy3555> Be back later, going to install
[07:46] <techie_> well the microphone and applications, places and system were on the lower part when I first opened the browser now everything is back to normal they are on top
[07:46] <Openix> sureshot: pipe the output to a file eg make install > error.txt
[07:46] <brandon2> crimsun: done
[07:46] <sureshot> thanke Openix
[07:46] <techie_> cables maybe I touched something and I moved them without being aware.
[07:46] <cables> techie_, either way, if you don't like where they are, you can move them.
[07:46] <techie_> cables... but the browser looks now as clear as when I was using windows. and with the same bluish background... all very clear.
[07:46] <crimsun> brandon2: hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver && hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
[07:47] <D7> how do I edit the colours of a controls section of a theme?
[07:47] <techie_> cables. how do you move them.?
[07:47] <techie_> just to know because I like them where they are.
[07:47] <cables> techie_, you mean your panel menus? right click, uncheck Lock To Panel, right click again, click Move, move them.
[07:49] <brandon2> crimsun: done
[07:49] <techie_> cables. how do you have yours organized.... example applications places, system are top left and the sound and date is top right
[07:49] <KeeNaF> hi guys
[07:49] <sureshot> what does yacc -d grammer.y means when running make
[07:49] <KeeNaF> im using x chat but i cant see da list of people ..
[07:49] <crimsun> brandon2: now you'll need to use hgcompile. Remember the configure options.
[07:50] <brandon2> crimsun: I do not
[07:50] <scfort> hey people, I have an X-FI sound card and am not having luck making it work.  Have any of you had success?
[07:50] <billy> Peace and Love to all earthlings.  Goodnight.
[07:50] <Beverage> hey folks emergency...sord of...i installed ubuntu then windows xp onto a laptop, the laptop is using the windows boot menu and not giving me the option to boot into ubuntu how do i change this back to grub!?
[07:50] <cables> techie_, i have my open windows list taskbar thingy at the bottom, along with force quit, show desktop, virtual desktops, and the trash, and I have my menus, notification area, clock, and shut down button, along with a bunch of monitors for batteries and stuff, at the top.
[07:50] <arrenlex> !grub | Beverage
[07:50] <ubotu> Beverage: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:50] <cables> !grub | Beverage
[07:50] <arrenlex> *wins*
[07:50] <sureshot> what does yacc -d grammar.y means when running make (misspelled grammar)
[07:50] <cables> arrenlex, damn, didn't see that
[07:50] <techie_> KeeNaf I had a similar situation and it was me... what you do is position your cursor so that you can slide the names and you will see them. right now the names are squeezed against the right side of your xchat window... you have to play around with it.
[07:50] <kingv> i'm tried to install kubuntu, xbuntu, ubuntu..every time i start the install in normal or safe graphics my monitor shows me bunch of messed up color and i can't see anything..
[07:51] <Beverage> arrenlex, thanlks
[07:51] <Flannel> kingv: grab the alternate CD
[07:51] <cables> Beverage, hey, I tried :)
[07:51] <crimsun> brandon2: well, first you'll need to back out http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel/raw-rev/02d568a3f440
[07:51] <KeeNaF> ahh .. got it .. TQ techie_ .. :)
[07:51] <brandon2> crimsun: sorry I don't understand
[07:51] <techie_> Keenaf... u are welcome
[07:51] <kingv> flannel: from where ?
[07:51] <KeeNaF> i still new in linux .. just install around 1 month and i enjoy it!
[07:51] <KeeNaF> :)
[07:52] <crimsun> brandon2: download it, then back it out using patch -p1 -R </path/to/patch
[07:52] <Flannel> kingv: same place.
[07:52] <kingv> flannel: what's the difference ?
[07:52] <Flannel> kingv: if youre grabbing edgy, you'll need to click the "More install options" to get to it
[07:52] <techie_> KeeNaf.. don't feel bad, I am just two days old doing this... sometimes you learn fast and other times you get stuck in the simplest things.
[07:52] <bullgard3> What command will show the modules in my kernel?
[07:52] <KeeNaF> yes .. that is rite
[07:52] <KeeNaF> :)
[07:52] <Flannel> kingv: once you've installed? nothing.  during install-- instead of being a liveCD, with an install command, you get a textmode GUI to install
[07:52] <foutrelis> :)
[07:53] <cypher1> bullgard3, lsmod
[07:53] <techie_> CAbles. I don't know if you tell me. how do you have your icons organized on yours.
[07:53] <Beverage> cables, thanks for your try :D if arrenlex had a heartattack you would have been my savior
[07:53] <cables> techie_, I did, but i probably got your nick wrong
[07:53] <techie_> Cables... I have everything on top except for the trash at the bottom.
[07:53] <techie_> ah.
[07:53] <techie_> tell me again.
[07:53] <bullgard3> cypher1: Thank you.
[07:53] <kingv> flannel: oh ok.. i will hop on and do that quickly .. thanks a lot for your help
[07:53] <Episcopus> can't make my wireless card work in edgy. can anyone helo?
[07:53] <cables> techie_, i have my open windows list taskbar thingy at the bottom, along with force quit, show desktop, virtual desktops, and the trash, and I have my menus, notification area, clock, and shut down button, along with a bunch of monitors for batteries and stuff, at the top
[07:54] <cables> techie_, see that?
[07:54] <techie_> Cables... thanks for everything I must go and zzzzzzzzzzzzz before my eyelashes fall off by themselves!!!
[07:54] <p47> how did he rotate the images or windows like vista ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9UF4FKzsMk&mode=related&search=
[07:54] <p47> how did he rotate the images or windows like vista ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9UF4FKzsMk&mode=related&search=
[07:54] <brandon2> crimsun: do I save the contents as a .txt?  then do I run patch -p1 -R </home/patch.txt    ?
[07:54] <crimsun> brandon2: sure, but your location is probably different
[07:54] <Flannel> p47: #ubuntu-effects will get you all setup with XGL
[07:55] <afflux> p47: at me its the windows-key and tab
[07:55] <techie_> cables.... must run. Thanks to all the people in this channel. Everybody is always very helpful. I appreciate the input.
[07:55] <D7> how can I edit the colours of the simple theme?
[07:55] <techie_> bye for now.
[07:55] <cables> techie_, bye
[07:55] <bulmer> Episcopus: what kind of chip your wifi have?
[07:55] <p47> afflux: ohh yeah that-s it
[07:55] <p47> afflux: thank-s
[07:56] <Hasrat_USA> hey ubunteros how are you all doing?
[07:56] <Episcopus> bulmer: it's a prism 2.5 netgear ma311
[07:56] <Episcopus> bulmer: supposed to be supported out of the box
[07:56] <brandon2> crimsun: file to patch?
[07:57] <crimsun> brandon2: yes, use the location where you placed it
[07:57] <bulmer> Episcopus: what have you done so far to activate it?
[07:57] <brandon2> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/380707
[07:57] <Episcopus> bulmer: i had it completely functional yesterday, then i downloaded all of the updates that came out between yesterday and edgy's release and it quit working
[07:58] <Episcopus> now iwconfig doesn't find it
[07:58] <crimsun> brandon2: make sure you're inside the directory of alsa-kernel
[07:58] <Episcopus> bulmer: and it isn't in my network list
[07:58] <cables> Can anyone point me to the instructions on how to use the persistent liveCD?
[07:58] <bulmer> Episcopus: how many directories you have under /lib/firmware?
[07:59] <Episcopus> bulmer: how do i find out using the terminal?
[07:59] <xerroz> I would like to install a minimal ubuntu base with full debugging symbols. Can anyone point me to a resource that may help? Or if anyone knows...
[07:59] <brandon2> crimsun: done
[07:59] <TridenT_Boy3555> Okay
[07:59] <TridenT_Boy3555> Won't even boot
[07:59] <TridenT_Boy3555> Gives me error
[07:59] <bulmer> Episcopus: you can list it
[07:59] <crimsun> brandon2: now use the hgcompile script
[07:59] <bulmer> and count it
[08:00] <TridenT_Boy3555> Worst part is I only got a A in Excite truck!1!
[08:00] <brandon2> crimsun: from the alsa-kernel directory .... sudo ./hgcompile?
[08:00] <thekidrio> anyone having problems with an ATI with herd 5?
[08:00] <Episcopus> bulmer: 2 folders inside /lib/firmware. they are 2.6.17-10-generic and 2.6.17-11-generic
[08:00] <TridenT_Boy3555> Anyone wanna help me out herE?
[08:00] <crimsun> brandon2: no, from alsa-driver
[08:00] <bulmer> Episcopus: do you see your old kernel amongst those directories?
[08:00] <crimsun> brandon2: and don't use sudo
[08:00] <thekidrio> i can't seem to get hardware excel working with ATI x1900 with herd 5
[08:01] <thekidrio> i am using the drivers from ati.com
[08:01] <Episcopus> bulmer: i don't know what the old kernel was, i just installed ubuntu for the first time yesterday
[08:01] <cypher1> TridenT_Boy3555, what is your problem ?
[08:01] <bulmer> Episcopus: do a  uname -a
[08:01] <bulmer> and match those to those dirs
[08:02] <thekidrio> !ati
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <arrenlex> thekidrio: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:02] <Episcopus> bulmer: "... 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1
[08:02] <arrenlex> !pastebin | thekidrio
[08:02] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: gives me hda error
[08:02] <ubotu> thekidrio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[08:03] <MaartenLx> I just installed VMWare on Linux.... and am now proceeding to install Windows 2003 Server in a VM, just to play around with it. :)
[08:03] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 353612
[08:03] <bulmer> Episcopus: then look in the 17-10 directory, your older drivers should be there
[08:03] <cypher1> TridenT_Boy3555, when did you get that error ?
[08:03] <thekidrio> arrenlex: will do :)
[08:04] <Episcopus> bulmer: and that bulmer: this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear says "Detected as eth0 and started working after modules.conf was edited (wlan0 to eth0)"  do i have to go somewhere and change wlan 0 to etho, or should that mean that it was already done?
[08:04] <techie_> cables... I just came back because the following dawned on me! I have a friend who is also switching from windows to ubuntu soon, I would like to tell him about the fonts you sent me... can you give me the commands again and I will save them on some sort of editor so that I can tell him . I did not save the previous session before I left.
[08:05] <Episcopus> bulmer: and there are lots of things in the 17-10 directory, but i don't know what they are
[08:05] <bulmer> Episcopus: you have to figure out which one of those is for the netgear chip you have
[08:05] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: about 3 minutes after I hit install
[08:05] <bulmer> prism rather
[08:05] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: on the intial boot screen
[08:06] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: Or maybe it was after I said check CD
[08:06] <K3nto> !sound
[08:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:06] <TridenT_Boy3555> cypher1: not sure which
[08:06] <techie_> I guess cables is gone....
[08:06] <Episcopus> bulmer: ok, should be fun.  if i figure it out, then what
[08:06] <techie_> good night you all...
[08:06] <bulmer> Episcopus: why did you have to upgrade ?
[08:06] <brandon2> crimsun: done
[08:07] <Episcopus> i wanted to install opera and couldn't because of unmet dependencies
[08:07] <K3nto> !soundblaster
[08:07] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[08:07] <Episcopus> bulmer: i wanted to install opera and couldn't because of unmet dependencies
[08:07] <bulmer> Episcopus: well...what does iwconfig -a show?
[08:07] <K3nto> is soudblaster or alsa better
[08:07] <crimsun> brandon2: installed, too? (sudo make install-modules && sudo depmod -e)
[08:07] <arooni> hey folks...
[08:07] <arooni> where are apps installed by default
[08:07] <Episcopus> bulmer: no such device
[08:07] <bulmer> Episcopus: well...what does iwconfig  show?
[08:07] <gyaresu> K3nto: alsa is the sound engine.
[08:08] <arooni> eclipse for isntance
[08:08] <arooni> where do i find that....
[08:08] <brandon2> crimsun: reboot?
[08:08] <arrenlex> !eclipse | arooni
[08:08] <arooni> and how do i search for eclipse if i didnt know where it was located
[08:08] <K3nto> gyaresu: i just selecte soundblaster and its working
[08:08] <ubotu> arooni: eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[08:08] <arooni> or any program directory
[08:08] <Episcopus> bulmer: lo - no wireless extensions; wlan0 - no wireless extensions; sit0 - no wireless extensions
[08:08] <arrenlex> !synaptic | arooni
[08:08] <ubotu> arooni: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:09] <crimsun> brandon2: yes
[08:09] <arooni> ok arrenlex i have eclipse on my comptuer already
[08:09] <arooni> and its installed
[08:09] <gyaresu> K3nto: good.
[08:09] <bulmer> Episcopus: it looks like wlan0 is your nic for wireless
[08:09] <arooni> the issue is where to find the program directory
[08:09] <arooni> and specifically where teh plugins dir is
[08:09] <arrenlex> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[08:09] <TridenT_Boy3555> He;;p??
[08:09] <TridenT_Boy3555> help?
[08:09] <Episcopus> bulmer: i figured, but there is nothing there and i don't know how to associate the wlan0 and my card
[08:09] <K3nto> gyaresu: are there any real differences between the two?
[08:09] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: hmmm?
[08:10] <arrenlex> arooni: You can type "dpkg -L <name of program>" in the console to list files in a package.
[08:10] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: hda error before I get to install
[08:10] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: somethin' about logical boot error I think
[08:10] <bulmer> Episcopus: use of dmesg, lshw will give you a hint to your wireless
[08:10] <gyaresu> K3nto: soundblaster is just the sound card. I wasn't following what you were doing but I'm pretty sure you just changed the sound device to the soundblaster. That's why it works now.
[08:11] <K3nto> ok
[08:11] <K3nto> !reader
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: Can you be more specific please.
[08:11] <K3nto> !ms
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell K3nto about ubotu
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !botabuse > K3nto
[08:12] <K3nto> !ubotu | K3nto
[08:12] <gyaresu> K3nto: stop doing that in the channel.
[08:12] <K3nto> ok
[08:12] <Episcopus> bulmer: lshw says network disabled; description: ethernet interface; product: prism 2.5 wavelan chispet; ...; logical name wlan0; ...
[08:12] <clark07> how can i open .rar archives?
[08:12] <TridenT_Boy3555> About which part?
[08:12] <mackinac> K3nto:   selecting "soundblaster" probably gives you OSS instead of ALSA
[08:12] <gyaresu> clark07: unrar
[08:12] <TridenT_Boy3555> The errors or what?
[08:12] <clark07> thank you : ) gyaresu
[08:13] <gyaresu> clark07: welcome.
[08:13] <brandon2> crimsun: no luck
[08:13] <crimsun> brandon2: amixer output?
[08:13] <K3nto> i have a memory card reader built into my computer. why does it only work with SD cards and not memory sticks?
[08:13] <K3nto> with ubuntu
[08:14] <Episcopus> bulmer: so, my wlan card show up as an ethernet interface. could that be a problem?
[08:14] <gyaresu> K3nto: what type of memory stick do you mean? USB?
[08:14] <K3nto> no
[08:14] <bulmer> Episcopus: i dont believe so
[08:14] <K3nto> the reader is built in
[08:14] <gyaresu> Episcopus: not if you want networking with it.
[08:14] <K3nto> i just push the memory stick in
[08:14] <mackinac> memory stick as in Sony's ?
[08:14] <K3nto> sony memory stick
[08:15] <Episcopus> bulmer; gyaresu: ok, what should i try next then?
[08:15] <K3nto> yeah its a medium format
[08:15] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: ....
[08:15] <brandon2> crimsun: pastebin not responding
[08:15] <gyaresu> K3nto: and when you do that it should register. check out the end of 'dmesg'. There should be '/dev/sda1' or somesuch.
[08:15] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: more specific about what
[08:15] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: yes.
[08:15] <arooni> ive got three files i need to write to /lib/eclipse/plugins.... but when i copy file over to the destination i get the error ' you dont have persmission to write to this folder'
[08:15] <bulmer> Episcopus: you need to load the driver  again look in the  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/
[08:15] <arooni> any ideas?
[08:15] <crimsun> brandon2: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:15] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: If you want help then you need to phrase it as a question.
[08:15] <K3nto> gyaresu: what?
[08:15] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: lol
[08:16] <bulmer> arooni: you see who owns that dir
[08:16] <arooni> bulmer: well i own everything i just installed linux today
[08:16] <brandon2> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8502/
[08:16] <gyaresu> K3nto: from a terminal run the command 'dmesg'
[08:16] <arrenlex> !sudo | arooni
[08:16] <ubotu> arooni: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:16] <K3nto> ok
[08:16] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: can you be more specific???
[08:16] <bulmer> arooni: you believed you do, which user you are logged on?
[08:17] <arooni> bulmer: chasetoys.. a user account
[08:17] <crimsun> brandon2: amixer set 'IEC958' mute
[08:17] <arooni> bulmer: i know how sudo works... but if youre trying to drag files grahpically, theres no place to type sudo in
[08:17] <bulmer> arooni: then does chasetoys own that directory you want to write to?
[08:17] <bulmer> arooni: then use the command line
[08:17] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: Are you joking? If you have a problem (which is why you said 'help') then I imagine you might need to state what the problem is.
[08:17] <arooni> bulmer: theres no way to do it with the drag & drop?
[08:17] <arooni> sudo that is
[08:17] <brandon2> crimsun: done, no sound
[08:17] <Episcopus> bulmer: what does 'uname -r' mean
[08:18] <K3nto> gyaresu: ok. i should look for...
[08:18] <bulmer> Episcopus: man uname
[08:18] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, we'll need to modify something. Sec.
[08:18] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: won't boot..won't go to install even
[08:18] <cypher1> arooni, may be you do "sudo nautilius" and try.. not sure whether it will work
[08:18] <Openix> arooni: to do things as root in natilus type   gksudo nautilus
[08:18] <Episcopus> bulmer: got it, sorry
[08:18] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: I cannot load install for ubuntu... I try and I get errors before I get the option to install
[08:19] <crimsun> brandon2: which gateway model did you say yours is?
[08:19] <bulmer> Episcopus: none to be sorry about, you just have to do a little more
[08:19] <brandon2> mx3414
[08:19] <brandon2> crimsun: Mx3414
[08:19] <gyaresu> K3nto: If you plug the USB stick in then it will register at the end of 'dmesg'. Try that.
[08:20] <K3nto> gyaresu: it isnt a usb stick
[08:20] <crimsun> brandon2: please pastebin the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[08:20] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: Are you able to run the LiveCD?
[08:20] <K3nto> but i know what u r saying i think
[08:20] <gyaresu> K3nto: Sony chewing gum stick? Little blue thing?
[08:20] <arooni> cypher1: what does sudo nautilus do
[08:20] <mackinac> gyaresu:   "memory stick" is a Sony memory card
[08:21] <cypher1> arooni, it starts the nautilus with root permissions
[08:21] <Openix> arooni: with nautilus  it should be gksudo
[08:21] <Episcopus> bulmer: i am probably not entering the right commands into the terminal... i should be entering "lib/firmware/'uname -r'/" right now, or something different?
[08:21] <K3nto> gyaresu: yes
[08:21] <arooni> Openix: what is gksudo
[08:21] <brandon2> crimsun: empty?
[08:21] <gyaresu> mackinac: I have no idea what that is. There are so many formats. Is it just flash memory in a proprietary enclosure?
[08:21] <mackinac> gyaresu:   yes
[08:22] <crimsun> brandon2: err, it can't be empty. cat it
[08:22] <Openix> arooni: gksudo is the gui version of sudo
[08:22] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: haven't tried.
[08:22] <brandon2> crimsun: brandon@brandon-laptop:~$ gedit /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[08:22] <gyaresu> K3nto: you need to run 'lspci' to see if it's recognised.
[08:22] <mackinac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_stick
[08:22] <bulmer> Episcopus: its backtick not forward ticks
[08:22] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: So what are you installing from?
[08:22] <crimsun> brandon2: no, use cat from the Terminal
[08:22] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: the install cd...
[08:22] <K3nto> ok
[08:23] <jfenwick> anyone know what the library is for the gtk C header files?
[08:23] <Openix> arooni: if you work in the console text only sudo is fine but for the gnome gui it should be gksudo
[08:23] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: So which CD have you got? (let's start from the beginning.)
[08:23] <arrenlex> jfenwick: Compiling from source? apt-get install build-essential
[08:23] <brandon2> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8503/
[08:23] <niyanta> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu in my compay presario 3000z laptop. Right now the screen resolution is 1024x768. How do I change it to 1280x800?
[08:23] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: the install cd
[08:24] <arrenlex> !fixres | niyanta
[08:24] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: the 64-bit one
[08:24] <ubotu> niyanta: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:24] <Openix> jfenwick: i think its just gtk.h
[08:24] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: So you are trying to install the 64bit version?
[08:24] <the_stig> Hey can someone help me wiht installing ubuntu ISO without burning it onto a cd
[08:24] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: yea
[08:24] <K3nto> !pastebin
[08:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:24] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: You are new to linux?
[08:24] <TridenT_Boy3555> the_stig: nice name
[08:24] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: Some-what
[08:24] <Episcopus> bulmer: i switched to backticks and the only result was now the command line shows ">" and nothing else. should it take a while for a reaction?
[08:24] <the_stig> thanks:D
[08:24] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: used it before and stuff but never really full time and got to learn how to use it etc
[08:25] <p47> before I can capture somting with the mouse a image capture but now I don't know how
[08:25] <arrenlex> Episcopus: You didn't end one of your backticks.
[08:25] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: You should just install the 32bit version.
[08:25] <p47> do you know how ?
[08:25] <bulmer> Episcopus: you need to load the driver  again look in the  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/  <-- cut and paste this
[08:25] <jfenwick> Openix: where is that located?
[08:25] <arrenlex> Episcopus: It's not doing anything. Cancel it with control+c and fix it.
[08:25] <the_stig> Any ideas?
[08:26] <dobblego> how do I set the refresh rate of the login screen? my monitor doesn't like it
[08:26] <mackinac> !install > the_stig
[08:26] <K3nto> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8504/
[08:26] <K3nto> it picks up the reader alright
[08:26] <gkelly> is anyone here familiar in setting up XGL on a Ubuntu 64 bit OS?
[08:27] <Episcopus> bulmer: can't copy/paste, different machine
[08:27] <snax> is there a special channel for discussing feisty?
[08:27] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download get that or the kubuntu version.
[08:27] <K3nto> #feisty
[08:27] <jfenwick> Openix: the problem is I looked in my /usr/include and I can't find gtk.h so where would it be located, or what package do I need to download to get it?
[08:27] <K3nto> lol
[08:27] <K3nto> not sure
[08:27] <mackinac> snax - #ubuntu+1
[08:27] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: what the heck is kubuntu??
[08:27] <Openix> jfenick: im not sure if its installed by default, you may have to install the gtk library and / or dev packages
[08:27] <bulmer> Episcopus: use   `   its below ~ on the left of 1 key
[08:28] <Episcopus> bulmer: finally did it right and have a list
[08:28] <gkelly> does anyone know a website for what i said above?
[08:28] <gkelly> i have looked at forums
[08:28] <gyaresu> TridenT_Boy3555: ubuntu with KDE rather than Gnome (but you end up mixing and matching bits anyway)
[08:28] <ChaseCharleville> hi
[08:28] <gkelly> hi
[08:28] <Openix> jfenwick: im not sure if its installed by default, you may have to install the gtk library and / or dev packages
[08:28] <ChaseCharleville> I can't figure out how to boot from a cd to install ubuntu
[08:28] <gkelly> do you have the live cd?
[08:28] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: downin' at 550kbps
[08:28] <ChaseCharleville> What's that
[08:28] <K3nto> gyaresu: did you see my link?
[08:28] <mackinac> gkelly, I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <gkelly> ok ty
[08:29] <gkelly> just a min chase
[08:29] <gkelly> i will get a link for you
[08:29] <ChaseCharleville> i wrote the iso to a disk
[08:29] <crimsun> brandon2: is this with headphones or...?
[08:29] <ChaseCharleville> and it didn't work when i tryed to boot from it
[08:29] <gyaresu> K3nto: http://www.thisishull.net/showthread.php?t=245904
[08:29] <K3nto> ty
[08:29] <mackinac> gkelly:  sry, i mean #ubuntu-effects
[08:29] <gkelly> ok
[08:29] <TridenT_Boy3555> On another note I FINALLY GOT A S rank on excite racer for the freaking canada river run map
[08:29] <gkelly> hey chase
[08:29] <TridenT_Boy3555> God did it take forever
[08:29] <brandon2> crimsun: headphones and speakers both don't work
[08:30] <brandon2> crimsun: I have been trying both with each change
[08:30] <gyaresu> K3nto: just a quick google for R5C592 which was in the memory stick line of your pastebin.
[08:30] <gkelly> chase you there?
[08:30] <gyaresu> K3nto: unsupported.
[08:30] <Episcopus> bulmer: the list is about 40 items, none indicate prism2 in their names
[08:30] <ChaseCharleville> yeha
[08:30] <ChaseCharleville> i am
[08:31] <ChaseCharleville> ok i put in the cd and the ubuntu splash came up
[08:31] <ChaseCharleville> "DiskTree"
[08:31] <brandon2> crimsun: people with mx3410 and mx3416 have same problem I believe
[08:31] <bulmer> Episcopus: it may not be named as prism2 ..google for whats the name for prism2 drivers
[08:31] <Openix> jfenwick: check this out http://www.howtoforge.org/apt_file_debian_ubuntu
[08:31] <gkelly> hey
[08:31] <ChaseCharleville> yeah
[08:31] <gkelly> ok
[08:31] <gkelly> did it load to the login?
[08:31] <jfenwick> Openix: thanks
[08:32] <ChaseCharleville> No
[08:32] <gkelly> hey
[08:32] <gkelly> i pmd you
[08:32] <gkelly> look on the side
[08:32] <gkelly> i will talk to you there
[08:32] <gkelly> hey
[08:32] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:32] <gkelly> what was that forum category again?
[08:32] <gkelly> something effect?
[08:32] <mackinac> the channel was #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <gkelly> alright ty
[08:33] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, there's no straightforward way to get your sound working. I'll forward this bug, and we'll need to work on it. It requires code changes to patch_
[08:33] <Episcopus> bulmer: should be prism2_pci or hostap_pci, neither are in my list
[08:33] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly
[08:33] <crimsun> sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c, even.
[08:33] <ChaseCharleville> i pmed you
[08:33] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly
[08:33] <gkelly> ya
[08:33] <ChaseCharleville> talk to you on the pm
[08:33] <brandon2> crimsun: ok, sounds good.  Is there anything else you need from me?
[08:34] <crimsun> brandon2: not atm
[08:34] <brandon2> crimsun: have paypal?
[08:34] <bulmer> Episcopus: lsmod |grep hostap  and see if its loaded...if not then get the driver from some repositories and load it via modprobe
[08:34] <crimsun> brandon2: no need to pay. I'm ubuntu's alsa maintainer.
[08:34] <albacker> what are some apps for editing .avi/.mpg videos under ubuntu ?!
[08:34] <brandon2> crimsun: I noticed that.  I appreciate all of your help.
[08:34] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly
[08:34] <perplexity> Is there any way to blacklist a driver when booting the Desktop LiveCD? I have an odd piece of hardware in a box and the default bttv probing locks the box solid, can I prevent Ubuntu from probing the bttv driver on bootup of the CD? (I can configure it properly once it's loaded)
[08:34] <ChaseCharleville> are oyu there?
[08:35] <gkelly> ya
[08:35] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:35] <gkelly> ya
[08:35] <brandon2> crimsun: if you need to get in touch about this (brandoncolorado gmail) or brandoncolorado in forums.
[08:35] <ChaseCharleville> i sent you a pm
[08:35] <crimsun> brandon2: ok, I'll note the gmail for CCs
[08:35] <gkelly> you arnet showing up
[08:35] <gkelly> o well
[08:35] <gkelly> i will talk to you here
[08:35] <brandon2> crimsun: sounds great, thanks again
[08:35] <gyaresu> ChaseCharleville: gkelly If you're not registered then you can't pm.
[08:35] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:35] <gkelly> alright
[08:35] <gkelly> do you ahve a 64 bit proc?
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> idk
[08:36] <gkelly> lol
[08:36] <Episcopus> bulmer: hostap_pci - 59152 - 0; hostap - 123012 - 1 - hostap_pci; ieee80211_crypt - 7552 - 1 - hostap
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> i wrote the iso to a cd
[08:36] <gkelly> whats your proc?
[08:36] <gkelly> amd
[08:36] <gkelly> or intel
[08:36] <sanityx> is there a way to see the size of a folder and all the files it contains?
[08:36] <gkelly> right click on it
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> intel
[08:36] <gkelly> and choose properties
[08:36] <gkelly> ok
[08:36] <Jolyon> ...
[08:36] <gkelly> pentium 4?
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> 3 or 4
[08:36] <sanityx> i meant in the terminal
[08:36] <gkelly> ok
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> cant remember
[08:36] <gkelly> alright let me get link
[08:36] <gkelly> for you to download
[08:36] <gkelly> just a min
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> download what
[08:36] <ChaseCharleville> the iso?
[08:37] <lordmaynoth> w00t
[08:37] <mackinac> private messaging is disabled on FreeNode if your nickname isn't registered with nickserv
[08:37] <mackinac> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:37] <gyaresu> gkelly: ChaseCharleville Could you guys preface your nicks so the rest of us know who you're talking to please. It just gets a little noisy in here is all.
[08:37] <lordmaynoth> I just got openoffice 2.1 working
[08:37] <brandon2> crimsun: have a good night, shoot me an email if you need any more outputs
[08:37] <gkelly> chaos
[08:37] <gkelly> http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:37] <gkelly> download the image to your desktop
[08:37] <mackinac> !enter | gkelly
[08:37] <ubotu> gkelly: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:38] <Episcopus> bulmer: 0 means off, doesn't it
[08:38] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly: I have it downloaded
[08:38] <TridenT_Boy3555> Hey guys, what are some games on ubuntu..?
[08:38] <gkelly> ok
[08:38] <gkelly> that same one
[08:38] <gkelly> how you burn it?
[08:38] <ChaseCharleville> yes
[08:38] <gkelly> what program you use
[08:38] <gyaresu> !offtopic | TridenT_Boy3555
[08:38] <ubotu> TridenT_Boy3555: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:38] <Jolyon> Who  can help me ?
[08:38] <ChaseCharleville> I wrote it to a disk
[08:38] <gkelly> i know
[08:38] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:38] <TridenT_Boy3555> gyaresu: lol
[08:38] <gkelly> but you have to use a ISO burner
[08:39] <ChaseCharleville> i used infra recorder
[08:39] <gyaresu> Jolyon: What's the problem?
[08:39] <gkelly> its made for burning iso's?
[08:39] <ChaseCharleville> the ubuntu website recomended it
[08:39] <ChaseCharleville> lol
[08:39] <gkelly> lol ok, well try imgburn
[08:39] <gkelly> idk
[08:39] <gkelly> does the cd load at all?
[08:39] <K3nto> gyaresu: so until sony learns to share, there wont really be a stable driver
[08:39] <ChaseCharleville> yeah the ubuntu splash screen thingy comes up when i put the cd in
[08:39] <dobblego> is it possible to change the refresh rate of the login screen?
[08:39] <ChaseCharleville> the DiscTree
[08:40] <Jolyon> Gdk Warning locale not supported by Xlib
[08:40] <gyaresu> K3nto: Put them on your list of manafacturers not to buy from.
[08:40] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: is your computer set to boot from cd drive?
[08:40] <gkelly> ok
[08:40] <ChaseCharleville> That's what I want to know
[08:40] <ChaseCharleville> how to do it
[08:40] <gkelly> you know how to get in bios?
[08:40] <ChaseCharleville> no
[08:40] <ChaseCharleville> how
[08:41] <gkelly> lol
[08:41] <gkelly> umm, there is f4, f12
[08:41] <gkelly> try f12
[08:41] <gyaresu> Jolyon: What were you doing when that happened.
[08:41] <gkelly> when your computer starts up
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> yeah
[08:41] <gkelly> 'right at the beginning
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> i tryed that
[08:41] <gkelly> whats your computer?
[08:41] <gkelly> dell?
[08:41] <gkelly> hp?
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> dell
[08:41] <gkelly> ok
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> xps
[08:41] <gkelly> i think they are f2
[08:41] <gkelly> or f4
[08:41] <gkelly> they usually say at bootup
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> its F12
[08:41] <_cerberus_> does anyone know what package I have to install in order to get v4l2-common.h?
[08:41] <ChaseCharleville> lol
[08:41] <gkelly> ok lol
[08:42] <gkelly> then f12
[08:42] <gkelly> press it
[08:42] <ChaseCharleville> heh
[08:42] <gkelly> and it should let you into bios
[08:42] <ChaseCharleville> ok i will
[08:42] <gkelly> then you just change the boot order
[08:42] <gkelly> to make the cd drive first
[08:42] <ChaseCharleville> oh
[08:42] <ChaseCharleville> well
[08:42] <gkelly> then it should work,
[08:42] <gyaresu> !enter > gkelly
[08:42] <ChaseCharleville> F12 isnt the bios then
[08:42] <mackinac> why don't you two type "/join #gkelly" and dominate that channel instead? ;)
[08:42] <Episcopus> ChaseChaleville: could be f8, that's what it is on both of my windows machines
[08:43] <gkelly> excellent suggestoion lol
[08:43] <gkelly> he siad its f12
[08:43] <ChaseCharleville> ill try F2, F4, F8 and F12 in the 3 seconds i have
[08:43] <gkelly> not f8
[08:43] <gkelly> thats windows
[08:43] <brandon2> I just added the generic kernel for troubleshooting, is it ok to keep using this kernel?
[08:43] <ChaseCharleville> i have windows...
[08:43] <gyaresu> brandon2: it's the kernel of choice.
[08:44] <gkelly> ya, then tyr the f12 key or whatever
[08:44] <_cerberus_> does anyone know what package I have to install in order to get v4l2-common.h?
[08:44] <brandon2> gyaresu: ok thanks, is it possible/necessary to delete some of the others listed in GRUB?
[08:44] <emet> is there anyway to create a distributed apt repository?
[08:44] <ChaseCharleville> let me reboot
[08:44] <gkelly> k
[08:44] <ChaseCharleville> ill be back
[08:44] <perplexity> _cerberus_ have you searched http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/ ?
[08:45] <K3nto> gyaresu: haha can do
[08:45] <_cerberus_> perplexity, I'll have a look
[08:45] <gyaresu> brandon2: 'dpkg --get-selections |grep image' Then 'apt-get remove' the ones you don't need. That's the clean way.
[08:46] <gyaresu> brandon2: just make sure that 'uname -a' you leave the one you're currently using :)
[08:47] <brandon2> gyaresu:  doesn't this seem like too many?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8506/
[08:48] <colbert> Hi I'm following this Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto     What is the terminal command for "Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source" ??
[08:48] <gyaresu>  brandon2 are you using the linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic kernel at the moment?
[08:48] <_cerberus_> perplexity, packages.ubuntulinux.org says it can't find it in any package for breezy
[08:48] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly?
[08:48] <brandon2> gyaresu: I think so, we downloaded generic just a while ago.
[08:49] <darkcommon> hi
[08:49] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly are you there?
[08:49] <gyaresu> brandon2: 'uname -a' that will tell you. How old is the laptop? the -386 is for old machines.
[08:49] <ChaseCharleville> ok...
[08:49] <ChaseCharleville> anyone know where gkelly went?
[08:49] <gkelly> hey
[08:49] <brandon2> gyaresu: 2.6.17-11-generic
[08:49] <brandon2>    (laptop is less than 1 year old)
[08:49] <gkelly> i am back
[08:49] <ChaseCharleville> oh
[08:49] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:49] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: did you get into your bios
[08:50] <darkcommon> gyaresu Talking about generic... AMD64 is the generic kernel??
[08:50] <ChaseCharleville> my choices at startup were F2: Setup and F12: Boot Menu
[08:50] <ChaseCharleville> i went to boot menu
[08:50] <gkelly> ya, ok
[08:50] <ChaseCharleville> and my choices in there were
[08:50] <gyaresu> brandon2: then get rid of all the other linux-image ones and linux-image-386
[08:50] <darkcommon> F2= Bios Setup F12 = Boot Menu (select the booting drive"
[08:51] <gkelly> boot menu
[08:51] <gyaresu> darkcommon: Sorry. I don't understand your question?
[08:51] <gkelly> you would want to put cd first
[08:51] <brandon2> gyaresu apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[08:51] <GreyGhost> hello guys... i updated my Edgy to a new kernel using the update manager ...but something seems to have gone wrong ..it did update the kernel and stuff fine.. but i still have the old kernel in the GRUB boot entry.. can i safely just delete thoose entries?
[08:51] <brandon2> gyaresu: like that?
[08:51] <gkelly> brb
[08:51] <gyaresu> brandon2: Yep.
[08:51] <darkcommon> GreyGhosy yep
[08:51] <perplexity> _cerberus_ looks like you need a newer distribution. It's available in Dapper +
[08:51] <ChaseCharleville> *Onboard SATA Hard Drive  *Onboard or USB CD-ROM Drive   *System Setup  * HardDrive Diagnostics  and *Boot to Utility Partition
[08:51] <GreyGhost> darkcommon ,ok thanks :)
[08:51] <ChaseCharleville> those were my choices in boot menu
[08:52] <gyaresu> brandon2: or add all the packages on one line so you don't have to wait. Just leave a space in between them on the line.
[08:52] <darkcommon> GreyGhosy, or best, comment the lines of the olds kernels
[08:52] <GreyGhost> darkcommon ,ahh ok :)
[08:52] <darkcommon> no problemo!!
[08:52] <_cerberus_> any chance of a backport of the required package? updating isn't really a option (dial up)
[08:52] <colbert> Hi I'm following this Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto     What is the terminal command for "Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source" ??
[08:52] <gyaresu> GreyGhost: darkcommon Um. NO. apt-get remove them...
[08:53] <GreyGhost> gyaresu hmm .. and that wont harm the system right?
[08:53] <darkcommon> gyaresu... REMOVE GRUB???
[08:53] <perplexity> _cerberus_ the required package is the kernel.. so yes you can probably do it, even so it's going to be a 20MB download
[08:53] <ChaseCharleville> any tips?
[08:53] <gyaresu> darkcommon: GreyGhost I've just been showing brandon2 how to safely get rid of old kernels.
[08:53] <_cerberus_> better than a 700Mb download though, cheers.
[08:53] <ChaseCharleville> Yes? No?
[08:53] <gkelly> back
[08:53] <GreyGhost> gyaresu ,ahh..ok .. i'll read back then ..
[08:53] <darkcommon> ammm...
[08:53] <ChaseCharleville> gkelly
[08:53] <gkelly> ya
[08:54] <gyaresu> darkcommon: GreyGhost It will do it cleanly and remove grub entrys etc.
[08:54] <ChaseCharleville> i put in my choices in boot menu up there
[08:54] <arooni> i need: PyGTK 		(version 2.0 or higher), GTK		(version 2.4 or higher), and i'm not sure how i can get these.... sudo apt-get install odesnt find them
[08:54] <ChaseCharleville> scroll up
[08:54] <darkcommon> gyaresu well....
[08:54] <LordLimecat> yo
[08:54] <LordLimecat> havin a bit of an annoying issue
[08:54] <gkelly> well
[08:54] <LordLimecat> every time i open add/remove...
[08:54] <gkelly> i will tell you right now, put cd first, then your hard drive
[08:54] <darkcommon> arooni "sudo aptitude search pygtk" "sudo aptitude search gtk"
[08:54] <LordLimecat> it says that the list of apps is out of date
[08:54] <brandon2> gyaresu: can linux-generic go?
[08:54] <LordLimecat> and i need to reload
[08:54] <ChaseCharleville> but how do i do that
[08:54] <LordLimecat> and i do
[08:55] <LordLimecat> but it doesnt stop asking
[08:55] <darkcommon> arooni and instal the package more closer for u
[08:55] <LordLimecat> ive run apt-get update as well,
[08:55] <arooni> darkcommon: what is this aptitude thing
[08:55] <ChaseCharleville> all i can do is select which one and enter
[08:55] <gyaresu> brandon2: (be verbose please) You mean this one: linux-image-generic ? Then no.
[08:55] <darkcommon> aptitude search" search and package on the repos
[08:55] <ChaseCharleville> should I go to F2 instead?
[08:55] <ChaseCharleville> its setup
[08:55] <ChaseCharleville> there's a bunch of stuff in there
[08:55] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: if you hit f2 and enter your bios, you should be able to change your boot order
[08:55] <darkcommon> ChaseCharleville F2 is Bios Setup
[08:56] <ChaseCharleville>  Ok
[08:56] <ChaseCharleville> then where do i go in there
[08:56] <brandon2> gyaresu: yes thank you
[08:56] <gyaresu> brandon2: np
[08:56] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,tried using the Synaptic "Refresh " or whatever opton rather than rnning apt-get update?
[08:56] <brandon2> gyaresu: I am going to restart and check out the new clean GRUB :)
[08:56] <LordLimecat> reload?
[08:56] <LordLimecat> yes
[08:56] <gyaresu> brandon2: see you soon ;)
[08:56] <LordLimecat> many times
[08:56] <LordLimecat> and synaptic doesnt have the issue
[08:56] <GreyGhost> hmm..weird..
[08:56] <LordLimecat> nor does apt-get
[08:56] <darkcommon> GreyGhost "Refresh" and "apt-get update" its the same
[08:57] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: it's different in every computer, look for something that says boot or boot order or boot device or something like that
[08:57] <ChaseCharleville> Ok
[08:57] <ChaseCharleville> thanks mate
[08:57] <rapid_> is allowing sshd connections a matter of opening the port in /etc/services?
[08:57] <ChaseCharleville> ill try
[08:57] <LordLimecat> and its only fetching 13bytes
[08:57] <ChaseCharleville> wait
[08:57] <GreyGhost> darkcommon ,oh k.. i just thought that the may mantain separate logs of their own..
[08:57] <ChaseCharleville> what order?
[08:57] <gyaresu> rapid_: you need to start the sshd service. Have you done that?
[08:57] <LordLimecat> aptitude update, apt-get update, add/remove-->reload, and synaptic-->reload
[08:57] <LordLimecat> all run
[08:58] <LordLimecat> but only add/remove complains when its opened
[08:58] <darkcommon> LordLimecat yep
[08:58] <LordLimecat> the otehrs are fine
[08:58] <gyaresu> rapid_: that file doesn't 'open ports' btw.
[08:58] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: 1st should be cd drive, then hard disk. your computer has to try to boot from your cd drive to run the intsall disk
[08:58] <rapid_> gyaresu, no, ill do that now, I just have to go inside to do it
[08:58] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: i will be hear when you get back, give it a shot
[08:58] <ChaseCharleville> and leave the rest alone?
[08:58] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[08:58] <Episcopus> but use my name whenyou come back
[08:58] <darkcommon> Episcopus, or pushing F12 to select CDROM, its more simply
[08:58] <ChaseCharleville> be back in a jiff
[08:59] <ChaseCharleville> yeha but it dosen't work if i select cd-rom
[08:59] <Episcopus> darkcommon: i know, but it should be set to boot from cd first anyway
[08:59] <emet> can you open realmedia files in linux?
[08:59] <ChaseCharleville> use Episcopus as my nickname?
[08:59] <Episcopus> no, come in and say my name before talking
[08:59] <arooni> how do i list *all* commandsi ever typed in
[08:59] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,lets try something weird.. backup ur sources.list ?
[08:59] <Episcopus> so i know you are back
[08:59] <ChaseCharleville> oh ok
[08:59] <arooni> to command line
[08:59] <ChaseCharleville> see you
[08:59] <LordLimecat> its backed up
[08:59] <darkcommon> emet "sudo apt-get install realplayer2
[08:59] <LordLimecat> actually, i changed it, and i wonder if that could cause it?
[08:59] <darkcommon> emet "sudo apt-get install realplayer"
[08:59] <gyaresu> rapid_: 'sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'
[09:00] <Rasiote> hi guys
[09:00] <rapid_> gyaresu, cool. thanks.
[09:00] <darkcommon> emet Yes, I can
[09:00] <gyaresu> rapid_: np.
[09:00] <corevette> what is the best video editing software for linux?
[09:00] <LordLimecat> backed up
[09:00] <darkcommon> corevette "Kino"
[09:00] <emet> darkcommon, cool
[09:00] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,just in case som,ething goes wrong ... ;) then open it and get rid of all the entries ... *remmebr make sure u have a proper backup of the list*
[09:00] <darkcommon> emet no problemo
[09:01] <LordLimecat> lol
[09:01] <LordLimecat> i have many
[09:01] <ghatak> i am problem with my NVIDIA drivers, when i run it compiles fine and then works fine too, but when i restart PC, the X does not start, and i have recompile the driver to use it. It complains that API is of diffirent version than kernel. If i run the downloaded driver from NVIDIA site then it will compile and run fine but wont work at restart. Help please .....!!!
[09:01] <xerroz> I would like to install a minimal ubuntu base with full debugging symbols. Can anyone point me to a resource that may help? Or if anyone knows...
[09:01] <GreyGhost>  LordLimecat ,and make sure u know where it is ;)
[09:01] <LordLimecat> i do :)
[09:01] <LordLimecat> just...rm the file and re-create
[09:01] <LordLimecat> ?
[09:01] <darkcommon> ghatak... search a new version of the Debian package.(if any)
[09:01] <corevette> what are the major cons of xfce?
[09:01] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,once u empty the list off all the entries ..save the file ..
[09:01] <LordLimecat> its totally cleared
[09:02] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,dont delet e the file.. just delete the entries
[09:02] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,ok then .. sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <Episcopus> bulmer: i posted what appears when i did "lsmod |grep hostap" it doesn't mean anything to me though, so i am stuck. are you still here?
[09:02] <LordLimecat> (toolate o.0)
[09:02] <gyaresu> darkcommon: ghatak Your advice is less than acurate here at the moment...
[09:02] <GreyGhost> then put back an empty file with the same name ;)
[09:02] <gyaresu> ghatak: I'll help you if you would like.
[09:02] <arooni> how do i make something happen on startup?
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> Episcopus
[09:03] <LordLimecat> wait, how did it know where to update from o.0
[09:03] <ghatak> darkcommon: there is a debian package for the driver, i upgraded because the version that came with Ubuntu gave some strange link raster lines on screen
[09:03] <LordLimecat> the file is empty!
[09:03] <LordLimecat> o.0
[09:03] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: did it work
[09:03] <ghatak> gyaresu: yes please
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> No.
[09:03] <darkcommon> arooni System > Administration > Sessions there is a tab to add it
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> I found the boot order and i changed it
[09:03] <corevette> arooni: system > preferences > sessions, then go to startups tab
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> then rrebooted agaun
[09:03] <LordLimecat> it found stuff to update o.0
[09:03] <LordLimecat> or rather
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> and it just booted windows again
[09:03] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,oh k .. did u run apt-get update?
[09:03] <LordLimecat> yea
[09:03] <Episcopus> ChasCharleville: ok, still wouldn't go from disk?
[09:03] <ChaseCharleville> nope
[09:04] <LordLimecat> and yet the issue persists
[09:04] <ChaseCharleville> made cd drive the first prioritah
[09:04] <gyaresu> ghatak: So have you added the extra repos?
[09:04] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,then open it back up and then copy paste the stuff outa ur backup
[09:04] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: did you check your md5 checksums before burning your disk?
[09:04] <ChaseCharleville> then hard disk
[09:04] <colbert> Does anyone know what to type in terminal to do this: "Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source" ???
[09:04] <ChaseCharleville> how do i do that?
[09:04] <darkcommon> ChaseCharleville see the PM
[09:04] <arooni> where should i put program files
[09:04] <arooni> like gmail notifier
[09:04] <arooni> that i downloaded
[09:04] <darkcommon> ChaseCharleville I will transfer you a boot floppy
[09:04] <arooni> and want to run on startup
[09:04] <ghatak> gyaresu: oh, i think it is already there, i can search again
[09:05] <gyaresu> colbert: did you donwload the lm-sensors source files?
[09:05] <arooni> right now its in /tmp
[09:05] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,and then again "update" this had solved my problem with apt where it gave me weird errors.. maybe it;'ll work for this too ..
[09:05] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: there is a page that explains it linked to the howtoburniso page
[09:05] <colbert> gyaresu: Yes
[09:05] <ChaseCharleville> howtoburniso page?
[09:05] <ChaseCharleville> on the ubuntu site?
[09:05] <LordLimecat> but how the heck did ubuntu still find servers to update from with an empty file
[09:05] <LordLimecat> does it have a backup of its own?
[09:05] <gyaresu> ghatak: Have you followed the nvidia instructions?
[09:06] <gyaresu> ghatak: I mean the ubuntu ones.
[09:06] <LordLimecat> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:06] <LordLimecat> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:06] <LordLimecat> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:06] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: yes, the HowToBurnIso page that told you to use infra recorder
[09:06] <krishna> hi
[09:06] <LordLimecat> this is probably my fault
[09:06] <LordLimecat> one sec
[09:06] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,it shouldn't it'll just pretty much try to update to emptyness..
[09:06] <gyaresu> colbert: so have you unpacked them and gone into that directory? that script is probably in there.
[09:06] <ghatak> gyaresu: no i have not, i am just looking for them on Wiki now
[09:06] <LordLimecat> but it didnt!
[09:06] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell ghatak about nvidia
[09:06] <LordLimecat> it listed all the default servers
[09:06] <ChaseCharleville> ok
[09:06] <LordLimecat> and updated from there
[09:06] <NSolarz> hey i need some help using ndiswrapper in eft
[09:07] <krishna> I have a quick question... is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[09:07] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: are you trying to use edgy or dapper
[09:07] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat .weird... for me ..it just started with reading package tingys.. and then ended in a few lines..
[09:07] <ChaseCharleville> uhh
[09:07] <krishna> i want to remove the switcher from the taskbar - but still want to use the multiple workspaces
[09:07] <Episcopus> 6.10 or 6.06
[09:07] <snake_> hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do??
[09:07] <krishna> 6.10
[09:07] <colbert> gyaresu: I used sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, it finished and now how do I know where the directory is ??
[09:08] <kingv> flannel: i just installed it and colors were all messed up again... so i loged in to tty2.. anything that i could fix from here ?
[09:08] <Episcopus> sorry krishna, that was directed to ChaseCharleville. i am too new to help with most things
[09:08] <gyaresu> colbert: Do you have a link to the info I assume you are following. Or more information.
[09:08] <NSolarz> how do i use ndiswrapper in 6.10?
[09:08] <snake_> hi all. when i try to install k3d from adept it says to me could not commit changes. what can i do??
[09:08] <arooni> is there anything better than chatzilla for IRC for ubuntu?
[09:08] <colbert> gyaresu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:08] <ChaseCharleville> Hold on Episcopus
[09:08] <ChaseCharleville> do you have AIM?
[09:08] <arooni> please tell me there is.... im installing firefox plugins all the tiem
[09:08] <GreyGhost> snake_ u had sudo right?
[09:08] <LordLimecat> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:09] <LordLimecat> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:09] <ChaseCharleville> It's hard to see in all the text in here
[09:09] <Episcopus> yes, i do
[09:09] <snake_> yes
[09:09] <LordLimecat> there are no duplicates int he sources.list
[09:09] <ChaseCharleville> S/N?
[09:09] <snake_> yes*
[09:09] <LordLimecat> nor overlapping repos
[09:09] <Episcopus> pm  me
[09:09] <ChaseCharleville> i did
[09:09] <gyaresu> !wifi |NSolarz
[09:09] <ubotu> NSolarz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:09] <NSolarz> ty
[09:09] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,just do what i said previously ..clear it up and run apt-get update.. and then add all the repos again ..i've had this warning before too..
[09:10] <ChaseCharleville> I cant pm
[09:10] <ChaseCharleville> im not registered
[09:10] <krishna> anyone have an idea how I can do it?
[09:10] <krishna> *switch workspaces using keyboard shortcuts
[09:10] <darkcommon> -.-'
[09:10] <gyaresu> krishna: from gnome?
[09:10] <snake_> any idea of the problem
[09:10] <snake_> ??
[09:10] <krishna> ya
[09:10] <GreyGhost> !workspace
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Episcopus> ChaseCharleville: ocdavid141
[09:11] <krishna> i don't understand?
[09:11] <gyaresu> snake_: you mean k3b?
[09:11] <darkcommon> GreyGhost xD
[09:11] <LordLimecat> its STILL givin that error after clear & reload #2
[09:11] <LordLimecat> one sec
[09:11] <snake_> no k3d
[09:11] <GreyGhost> krishna ,sorry ..
[09:11] <GreyGhost> shouldnt ubotu know that??
[09:11] <GreyGhost> bbiab .. lunch
[09:11] <LordLimecat> im going to clear the contents of the folder /var/lib/apt/lists
[09:12] <LordLimecat> it alppears to be all of my repos
[09:12] <LordLimecat> any...objections?
[09:12] <happyface0> I just installed Ubuntu and now after the splash screen all I see is flashing colors, and ctr+alt+f keys are impossible to read because it is a squished resolution or something. I can run with the 'single' command line option in Grub, but can't figure out how to fix the flashyness. I ran the xconfig and no luck with that. Can someone help?
[09:12] <snake_> k3d: 3d modeling and animation system
[09:12] <gyaresu> snake_: sorry no.
[09:12] <snake_> ok thanx
[09:12] <darkcommon> !topic
[09:12] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:12] <darkcommon> krishna
[09:12] <panfist> could anyone help me out configuring my wireless card using ndiswrapper? ive read many forum threads, all the documentation and i still have problems
[09:12] <krishna> ya
[09:13] <r00tintheb0x> how can i adjust my volume?
[09:13] <darkcommon> krishna http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8511/
[09:13] <gyaresu> !sound > r00tintheb0x
[09:13] <GreyGhost> happyface0 ,try disabling splash and stuff in the grub boot menu ..
[09:13] <GreyGhost> *may* help
[09:13] <snake_> !k3d
[09:13] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB
[09:14] <haarp> hey, how do i apply patches over several files? when i execute patch with only the patchfile but no origfile, it does nothing
[09:14] <krishna> awesome
[09:14] <snake_> i have problem installing this
[09:14] <krishna> thanks darkcommon
[09:14] <darkcommon> no problemo!!
[09:14] <krishna> :-D
[09:14] <darkcommon> we are here for help!!
[09:14] <gyaresu> snake_: pastebin your message please.
[09:14] <ghatak> gyaresu: that tutorial refers to restricted respositries but i can not find that in my synapatic manager, I am running 6.10 Edgy
[09:14] <krishna> i'm new to ubuntu... but god dammit... this is awesome!
[09:14] <gyaresu> !repos > ghatak
[09:14] <K3nto> what section in xorg.conf would "Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"" go in?
[09:15] <darkcommon> krishna we help there!!
[09:15] <colbert> gyaresu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto   It's about 5 paragraphs from the top
[09:15] <krishna> thanks again darkcommon
[09:15] <happyface0> GreyGhost, thats not the problem. I see the splash fine, but its after that it gets messed up
[09:15] <panfist> i only have wireless connectivity so i am booted into windows right now and have been trying to download/install/configure wireless in ubuntu offline. i downloaded 4 dvd isos of repositories from bittorrent and that had version 1.18 of ndiswrapper which is apparently very old.
[09:15] <snake_> gyaresu i cant because its in a window
[09:15] <darkcommon> krishna no problemo!!
[09:15] <darkcommon> snake_ what is in a window?
[09:15] <snake_> the message that i get
[09:16] <gyaresu> K3nto: Section "Screen"
[09:16] <snake_> when i try to install k3d
[09:16] <snake_> in adept
[09:16] <LordLimecat> HAH!
[09:16] <LordLimecat> FIXED!
[09:16] <GreyGhost> happyface0 . i have a similar problem .. but instead of flashyness i get nothing.. and that helped me..
[09:16] <LordLimecat> check it
[09:16] <panfist> everything appeared to be working correctly, i installed the .inf for my card and when i ran "ndiswrapper -l" it said, "driver present, hardware installed" yet i could not configure the card or connect, so i tried to install a newer version of ndiswrapper
[09:16] <K3nto> gyaresu: ok ty
[09:16] <GreyGhost> LordLimecat ,good and how ?
[09:16] <LordLimecat> that warning about duplicates in /var/lib/apt/lists
[09:16] <GreyGhost> ahh.ok
[09:16] <LordLimecat> well, i backed up the contents of that folder
[09:16] <LordLimecat> which appeared to be files named after all sources.list entries
[09:16] <LordLimecat> as well as some gpg files
[09:16] <LordLimecat> i deleted all files
[09:16] <r00tintheb0x> gyaresu, it works, its just too loud
[09:16] <LordLimecat> then restored the gpg files
[09:17] <LordLimecat> and then ran apt-get twice
[09:17] <darkcommon> r00tintheb0x: lol
[09:17] <LordLimecat> first time had some errors
[09:17] <happyface0> GreyGhost I'm almost positive its a xfree86 problem
[09:17] <LordLimecat> second time was perfect
[09:17] <LordLimecat> WOOOOT
[09:17] <panfist> i downloaded a tar of ndiswrapper 1.38 but that won't install. when i try to run "make" from within the director i get errors and it exits. help please anyone?
[09:17] <snake_> so what can i do with k3d
[09:17] <snake_> ??
[09:17] <gyaresu> r00tintheb0x: alsamixer (or alsamixer -c 1)
[09:17] <r00tintheb0x> thanks gyaresu
[09:17] <darkcommon> !k3d > snake_
[09:18] <darkcommon> snake_ see the PM of ubotu
[09:18] <snake_> i get the same error "could not commit changes" from adept
[09:18] <gyaresu> colbert: Hey. Yeah the guide is a little wacky.
[09:18] <aggrav8d> hello!
[09:18] <GreyGhost> happyface0 ,just try it.. when GRUB starts up .. make sure ur Ubuntu option is highlighted.. press "e" and remove the "splash" part .. press "enter" and press "b" ... these are temporary changes and whont get savesd .. so worth a try
[09:18] <happyface0> GreyGhost I'l try the splash thing, brb
[09:18] <snake_> darkcommon: i have seen this
[09:18] <LordLimecat> know what ubuntu needs by default?
[09:18] <happyface0> thanks brb
[09:18] <darkcommon> -.-'
[09:18] <K3nto> gyaresu: how can i back up the existing xorg.conf file befor i edit it
[09:18] <gyaresu> colbert: You can always 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate lm-sensors'
[09:18] <GreyGhost> bbiab ...lunch
[09:18] <LordLimecat> a script on the desktop that new users can doubleclick which would join em to this irc
[09:19] <darkcommon> (-,-')
[09:19] <LordLimecat> cause im sure there are a LOT of users who dont even know how to use irc
[09:19] <panfist> that doesnt help users like me that cant get online. help please!
[09:19] <gyaresu> K3nto: excelent question. 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak'
[09:19] <LordLimecat> lol
[09:19] <darkcommon> yeppp
[09:19] <K3nto> k ty
[09:19] <theidiotthatisme> LordLimecat: You're right, there are a lot who dont know how to use IRC. But there is a link to community help in Gnome ;)
[09:19] <LordLimecat> :D
[09:19] <r00tintheb0x> anyone know of a good yahoo chat client besides gyach?
[09:19] <LordLimecat> and many dont know how to search for help
[09:19] <LordLimecat> because its such a pain in win
[09:19] <darkcommon> LordLimecat good idea!
[09:19] <LordLimecat> :)
[09:19] <gyaresu> !gaim > r00tintheb0x
[09:19] <LordLimecat> just a few lins
[09:19] <LordLimecat> links
[09:19] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[09:20] <LordLimecat> thats all it takes
[09:20] <dufft> hi all
[09:20] <aggrav8d> i'm having some trouble configuring a linksys WVC54GC wireless camera through OSX.  What would be the appropriate channel to ask for help in?  I normally only use freenode for ubuntu questions :)
[09:20] <LordLimecat> probably here
[09:20] <thoreauputic> aggrav8d: I think there'sa #mac here
[09:20] <colbert> gyaresu: Okay, I did locate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8513/    Which would it be ?
[09:20] <gyaresu> LordLimecat: No.
[09:20] <aggrav8d> thore - thanks
[09:21] <thoreauputic> aggrav8d: no worries :)
[09:21] <Egon> hi all
[09:21] <dufft> hm can i ask a question now?
[09:21] <Egon> where is cd <path to unpacked linux sources> in
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !ask
[09:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:21] <Egon> Ubuntu?
[09:21] <dufft> yeah
[09:21] <dufft> i've just intalled ubuntu 7.04
[09:21] <LordLimecat> egon--whereever you extracted it
[09:21] <dufft> and it refuses to work with 1280x1024x75
[09:22] <LordLimecat> were you told to issue the untar command?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !fixres| dufft
[09:22] <ubotu> dufft: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:22] <Egon> LordLimecat: but in "out of the box" instalation? from CD?
[09:22] <LordLimecat> er
[09:22] <LordLimecat> ...why do you need linux sources o.0
[09:22] <panfist> can anyone please help me figure out why ndiswrapper-1.38 won't make/install on my system?
[09:22] <aggrav8d> thore - is there, by any chance, a linksys channel?
[09:22] <darkcommon> aggrav here no..
[09:22] <emet> how do I get a MIDI to play
[09:22] <LinuxHelp> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-*- xserver-xorg-input-*- xserver-xorg-core+ xserver-xorg-input-synaptics+ # I'm trying to install just the two + packages, but this says: E: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-*
[09:22] <aggrav8d> darn.
[09:22] <thoreauputic> aggrav8d: I doubt it :) try typing /j #linksys
[09:23] <dufft> thnx a lot
[09:23] <thoreauputic> dufft: those URLs should help
[09:23] <Egon> LordLimecat: to patch them, in order to install acpi, in order to install fnfx, uff
[09:23] <happyface0> GreyGhost, disabling the splash didn't work
[09:23] <LordLimecat> well, dunno...you could grab em from synaptic?
[09:23] <LordLimecat> dont know if theyre there by default
[09:24] <K3nto> LordLimecat: i got the 5 sides afterwad
[09:24] <GreyGhost> happyface0 , hmm :(
[09:24] <LordLimecat> :D
[09:24] <thoreauputic> !midi
[09:24] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:24] <LordLimecat> check out the emerald theme, adonis mod
[09:24] <LordLimecat> i just widened the borders and rounded em
[09:24] <LordLimecat> glassy :D
[09:24] <panfist> You need a recent kernel, at least 2.6.6 or 2.4.26, with header files
[09:24] <panfist> for the kernel. Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from
[09:24] <panfist> the modules directory. The command
[09:24] <panfist>   ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[09:24] <panfist> should have at least 'include' directory and '.config' file.
[09:25] <panfist> sorry
[09:25] <LordLimecat> o.0
[09:25] <ahave> rm -d should remove a directory, correct?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ahave: rmdir
[09:26] <aggrav8d> ahave - also rm -rf
[09:26] <panfist> sorry bout that, anyway...that is an excerpt from the INSTALL text file included with ndiswrapper-1.38 and I -don't- have "include" or ".config" ... and it's not installing. why am i missing those, how can i get them, or more generally speaking...can anyone please help me with ndiswrapper
[09:26] <LordLimecat> careful with that
[09:26] <ahave> what does -rf do?
[09:26] <ahave> yea, i know
[09:26] <LordLimecat> recursively, force
[09:26] <aggrav8d> force recursive
[09:26] <ahave> force meaning?
[09:27] <LordLimecat> readonly as well, i think
[09:27] <thoreauputic> ahave: only use -rf if you are *sure*
[09:27] <aggrav8d> it's like saying "do everything, and answer yes to every 'are you sure' question"
[09:27] <K3nt1> LordLimecat: i didnt get WoW going tho. i just crashed. in order to make the 5 sides work, i had to remove the cap.
[09:27] <LordLimecat> :(
[09:27] <happyface0> anyone know why my screen flashes colors after the Ubuntu splash screen? (just installed it)
[09:27] <LordLimecat> we'll get it workin'
[09:27] <LordLimecat> dont you worrt
[09:27] <aggrav8d> happy face - are you running on a c64? :)
[09:27] <LordLimecat> worry
[09:27] <K3nt1> ya
[09:27] <K3nt1> i wasnt
[09:28] <gyaresu> colbert: Right. If I'm reading it right; you just need to run that script from anywhere. Does that make sense. (copy/paste to file chmod then 'sudo ./mkdev.sh' etc.)
[09:28] <K3nt1> i can still play w/o beryl
[09:28] <LordLimecat> yea.....
[09:28] <LordLimecat> :(
[09:28] <panfist> so do you guys only respond to the easy questions a 5 second google search would answer?
[09:28] <LordLimecat> but its not wallpapery
[09:28] <happyface0> aggrav8d that doesn't help
[09:28] <happyface0> :(
[09:28] <aggrav8d> pan - no, people would just tell you to google it.
[09:28] <LordLimecat> panfist
[09:28] <LordLimecat> i dunno about others
[09:28] <thoreauputic> !attitude| panfist
[09:28] <ubotu> panfist: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:28] <LordLimecat> but i answer questions i know how
[09:28] <LordLimecat> otherwise, i keep quiet
[09:29] <LordLimecat> because if we all said, no i dont kno, itd be flooded
[09:29] <colbert> gyaresu: Ok, so what is the command? Sorry I am new hehe.. what do I do to run the mkdev.sh? sudo gedit mkdev.sh, paste all that in it, save it and then what ?
[09:29] <LordLimecat> if noone answers, its possible noone knows
[09:29] <Work_Dangit> Lime cat is not pleased
[09:29] <K3nt1> panfist what was your question?
[09:29] <Work_Dangit> hehe
[09:29] <LordLimecat> lol
[09:29] <LordLimecat> http://www.makesmepeaceful.com/ok/limecat.html
[09:29] <Work_Dangit> does anyone here know what is causing this bug
[09:29] <ncaller> I built a box with 4GB of ram and AMD X2 processor.  I am installing 64bit ubuntu-server 6.10.  I would like to run 4 virtual machines on this platform to replace 1 linux box, 2 OpenBSD boxes, and 1 Windows 2003 server box I have.  My question is in order to do this do I need only the vmware player or server?
[09:30] <LordLimecat> ncaller--
[09:30] <Work_Dangit> when I press the power button after telling it to shut down.... it goes to a black screen and hangs...
[09:30] <LordLimecat> vmplayer CAN do installations
[09:30] <ahave> still cant remove everything ... http://rafb.net/p/nitP7067.html
[09:30] <LordLimecat> but you need to have the "harddrive" files first
[09:30] <LordLimecat> pre-partitioned
[09:30] <gyaresu> then make it 'executable' +x (i can tell you the cli way but you probably can do it via the gui these days [right click properties or something] )
[09:30] <happyface0> ncaller I know that the vmware player only can run the virtual machines, can't create tehm
[09:30] <LordLimecat> theres some site that provides 5,10,15, 20, and 25 gb partition files
[09:30] <LordLimecat> total size is like 50kb
[09:30] <thoreauputic> easyvmx
[09:31] <LordLimecat> happyface--you dont need vmplayer to create
[09:31] <ncaller> LordLimecat thanks, I know I can create the files qith utils from qemu... I just don't know if I need the vmware server for anything, I have read conflicting info on it
[09:31] <LordLimecat> using only vmplayer i was able to install mandriva 2007
[09:31] <gyaresu> panfist: Do you need the latest ndiswrapper? The package from ubuntu is not good enough?
[09:31] <LordLimecat> ncaller--thats EXACTLY what you do :)
[09:31] <yomm> How do I install the whole gnome/ubuntu desktop frop a cli install ? What is the metapackage's name ?
[09:31] <yomm> *from
[09:31] <LordLimecat> once you have em, the player will boot em like normal
[09:31] <thoreauputic> yomm: ubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <ncaller> and I can run multiple player instances on the same box?
[09:32] <LordLimecat> ...id imagine so
[09:32] <LordLimecat> cant say
[09:32] <Work_Dangit> when I press the power button after telling it to shut down.... it goes to a black screen and hangs...
[09:32] <ncaller> so what does the vmware "server" give you?
[09:32] <yomm> thor : i see ! sometimes one looks too far :)
[09:32] <ahave> thoreauputic, still cant delete? http://rafb.net/p/nitP7067.html
[09:32] <yomm> thx :)
[09:32] <LordLimecat> lol, id be pissed if it was just the ability to make the file :D
[09:32] <ncaller> yeah no kidding!
[09:32] <panfist> k3nt1: documentation included with ndiswrapper states that if i run "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build i should see "include" and ".config" <-- those are not present, and ndiswrapper won't install, and i suspect that's why. i can't use apt-get because i have no connectivity in ubuntu and the repo ISOs i downloaded have ndiswrapper-1.18 which I could not get to work, and all the guides refer to newer versions, so I'm stuck
[09:32] <LordLimecat> honestly, i wonder that too
[09:33] <Work_Dangit> Limecat... i am running ubuntu on an older rig... and connect to a windows box via vnc... it works faster than a virtual machine
[09:33] <K3nto> panfist: i got nothin
[09:33] <thoreauputic> ahave: looks like the files have spaces
[09:33] <LordLimecat> o.0
[09:33] <thoreauputic> ahave: I mean the names
[09:33] <Work_Dangit> kinda the same effect
[09:33] <LordLimecat> yea
[09:33] <ncaller> ok great so apparently it isn't necessary... now I also read about XenSource's xen virtualization which seems more complex then simply setting up some images for vmware, anyone know if there is a big advantage to using Xen over vmware, aside from the fact that it is GPL.
[09:33] <ahave> thoreauputic, but shouldnt the * capture it all?
[09:33] <gyaresu> panfist: you could just donwload the ndiswrapper .deb file and install with dpkg
[09:33] <z9999> Is anyone here able to hep with removing and re-installing Firefox 2.0.0.x in Ubuntu 6.06 Linux? We accidentally hosed it up and it no longer runs.
[09:34] <thoreauputic> ahave: hmm - not sure
[09:34] <gyaresu> !offtopic | ncaller
[09:34] <ubotu> ncaller: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:34] <Work_Dangit> anyone here know if ubuntu edgy will freak out if I change my cd-burner to a dvdburner
[09:34] <Work_Dangit> ?
[09:34] <LordLimecat> z99900 cant you go into add/remove
[09:34] <LordLimecat> and completely remove it
[09:34] <gyaresu> Work_Dangit: No it will be fine.
[09:34] <panfist> gyaresu: thanks, gonna reboot in a sec to try that out
[09:34] <hjmf> @bofh
[09:34] <K3nto> LordLimecat: PM for a sec
[09:34] <LordLimecat> eh?
[09:34] <Work_Dangit> thanks | gyaresu
[09:35] <z9999> LordLimecat: We tried that yesterday but we still can't run Firefox.
[09:35] <gyaresu> hjmf: that doesn't work in this channel.
[09:36] <panfist> gyaresu: where would i find the .deb, the project page on sourceforge just has the tar
[09:36] <arooni> is there a quick way to go to the start of a previous command arg
[09:36] <arooni> i mean command... so i dont have to scrolll back
[09:37] <LordLimecat> z9999: you may need to get a 64bit firefox?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> arooni:  ctrl+b ( unless you are using gnome-terminal with the menu bar showing)
[09:37] <LordLimecat> i really need to get experience with x64, im a bit clueless with ANY os x64
[09:37] <thoreauputic> arooni: I hide themenu bar for that reason
[09:37] <LordLimecat> dont really understand the point/limitation/issues/etc
[09:37] <arooni> thoreauputic: how do you do that
[09:37] <ahave> does anyone know how i can delete a read-only system file?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> arooni:  ctrl+w to erase the previous word  is another one
[09:38] <thoreauputic> arooni: right click, edit existing profile
[09:38] <thoreauputic> arooni: tell it to hid the menu and make new instances start without it
[09:38] <thoreauputic> *hide
[09:38] <LordLimecat> ahave....
[09:38] <LordLimecat> sudo?
[09:38] <gyaresu> panfist: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[09:38] <LordLimecat> or make it non-readonly
[09:39] <thoreauputic> ahave: erm... which file ?
[09:39] <ahave> i am using sudo
[09:39] <LordLimecat> chmod....
[09:39] <LordLimecat> one sec
[09:39] <ahave> line #8 http://rafb.net/p/nitP7067.html
[09:39] <LordLimecat> 4 is read, 2 is write, right
[09:39] <Symmetre> i have some gov 'technologists' asking for an ubuntu distro with beryl on it already, anyone know of one?
[09:39] <LordLimecat> you could just do chmod 777 on the file
[09:39] <LordLimecat> and then delete it
[09:40] <gyaresu> Symmetre: distrowatch.com
[09:40] <LordLimecat> but....what are you deleting
[09:40] <AJIEXA> good day to all.
[09:40] <AJIEXA> Help me please, where i can add more dictionarys to check my orfography in Gaim and Evolution ???
[09:40] <AJIEXA> thanks
[09:40] <gyaresu> Symmetre: but Mepis should do the job. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distributions/mepis/testing/SimplyMEPIS-CD_6.5.b7_32.iso
[09:40] <bobotoh> ba
[09:40] <ahave> LordLimecat, chmod still doesnt work
[09:40] <arooni> thoreauputic: how can i get a list of all commands i typed
[09:40] <z9999> LordLimecat: We're not running 64 bit Ubuntu, and Firefox was working prior to applying updates 2 days ago. We fell back to the previous version but that didn't fix it.
[09:40] <LordLimecat> and yer doing rm -f?
[09:40] <arooni> into the shell
[09:40] <gyaresu> arooni: 'history'
[09:41] <Matt4781581> history -l
[09:41] <thoreauputic> arooni: history
[09:41] <arooni> neeato
[09:41] <arooni> i can pipe that into grep
[09:41] <arooni> for awesomeness
[09:41] <thoreauputic> arooni: you don't need to - just do ctrl + r
[09:41] <gyaresu> Matt4781581: no.
[09:42] <thoreauputic> arooni: ctrl+r gives you a search of the history
[09:42] <LordLimecat> will CLI ever cease to rock?
[09:42] <Matt4781581> no what
[09:42] <LordLimecat> did not know about ctrl+3
[09:42] <LordLimecat> r
[09:42] <arooni> oh wow
[09:42] <LordLimecat> and i like it
[09:42] <thoreauputic> LordLimecat: :)
[09:42] <ahave> LordLimecat, i am using sudo rm -rf *
[09:42] <LordLimecat> o.0
[09:42] <LordLimecat> what are you deleting o.0
[09:42] <gyaresu> Matt4781581: there is no '-l' option for history.
[09:42] <LordLimecat> and btw, youd want to do sudo rm -rf ./
[09:42] <ahave> clearing out a flash drive
[09:42] <Matt4781581> oh gee thanks
[09:43] <LordLimecat> oh
[09:43] <LordLimecat> OH
[09:43] <LordLimecat> is the drive mounted with RW?
[09:43] <Matt4781581> shucks
[09:43] <LordLimecat> or RO
[09:43] <ahave> not sure..
[09:43] <ahave> ubuntu auto mounted it
[09:43] <LordLimecat> $mount
[09:43] <LordLimecat> do you see yer drive listed?
[09:43] <ahave> what does $mount do/
[09:43] <ahave> no
[09:43] <LordLimecat> type mount
[09:43] <LordLimecat> just mount
[09:44] <LordLimecat> its gonna be /dev/somethin
[09:44] <LordLimecat> maybe /dev/sdc
[09:44] <LordLimecat> and itll prob be either ntfs or vfat
[09:44] <ahave> /dev/sda1 on /media/SD PLAYER type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[09:44] <LordLimecat> if its ntfs, youre not gonna be able to mount it RW without additional stuff
[09:44] <ahave> i belive that is it
[09:44] <LordLimecat> alright
[09:44] <Matt4781581> you need ntfs-3g
[09:45] <Doble> Hi, I'm searchin some usable kernel boot arguments because my usb devices doesn't work at all.
[09:45] <Matt4781581> that is if you want to write to the drive
[09:45] <arooni> whats a nice program to get weather in my 'ubuntu bar'
[09:45] <LordLimecat> try cd /media/SD\ PLAYER
[09:45] <LordLimecat> sudo rm -rf ./
[09:45] <gyaresu> Matt4781581: Your advice is incorrect: /dev/sda1 on /media/SD PLAYER type vfat
[09:45] <LordLimecat> what file is causin it
[09:45] <LordLimecat> gyaresu--he was respondin to me
[09:46] <thoreauputic> arooni: right-click panel, add wether applet
[09:46] <LordLimecat>  AM) LordLimecat: if its ntfs, youre not gonna be able to mount it RW without additional stuff
[09:46] <K3nto> when i come out of a scrrensaver, everything goes black
[09:46] <LordLimecat> i really dont feel comfortable saying that command, btw
[09:46] <thoreauputic> umm weather applet ...
[09:46] <K3nto> i can only see the curser
[09:46] <Matt4781581> arroni: right-click on panel - add to panel - click weather report
[09:47] <LordLimecat> im really afraid someones gonna issue it
[09:47] <Egon> how to recompile a kernel in ubuntu?
[09:47] <ahave> LordLimecat, tried that, doesnt work. for somereason the entire device is in read-only mode
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Egon: why do you need to?
[09:47] <pusher2882> my windows vista partition is mounted but its read only  even with chmod and chown its dont change anything can somebody help me
[09:47] <LordLimecat> wtf....its showing rw
[09:47] <LordLimecat> i really dont kno dude
[09:47] <n0se> hi
[09:47] <LordLimecat> maybe one of the options is causin it
[09:47] <DiscusRapidus> hi
[09:47] <gyaresu> Doble: Would you like some help?
[09:48] <Matt4781581> ntfs (vista filesystem) is read only on linux without extra software (ntfs-3g)
[09:48] <Doble> gyaresu: Yes please :)
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !ntfs| pusher
[09:48] <ubotu> pusher: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:48] <pusher2882> what can i do
[09:48] <LordLimecat> Matt4781581: its a vfat
[09:48] <LordLimecat> and its mounted in RW
[09:48] <Matt4781581> ok vfat
[09:48] <thoreauputic> pusher2882: see ubotu above
[09:48] <Matt4781581> point is its not writeable from linux
[09:49] <LordLimecat> vfat IS
[09:49] <pusher2882> ok so i can do nothing
[09:49] <ahave> LordLimecat, can i just format it or something?
[09:49] <LordLimecat> its fat32
[09:49] <gyaresu> Doble: Open a terminal and run the command 'lspci' then pastebin it please.
[09:49] <arooni> thoreauputic: but how do i move the items i have on my panel
[09:49] <ahave> LordLimecat, starting to piss me off
[09:49] <thoreauputic> pusher2882: sure you can
[09:49] <LordLimecat> and its a VERY widely used FS
[09:49] <Egon> thoreauputic: in order to install this: http://fnfx.sourceforge.net/index.php?section=doc I will have to recompile kelner (I'm alredy uset synaptic to install fnfx and fnfxd ,but styll as far I can see I need to recompile kernel with CONFIGURE_ACPI_TOSHIBA)
[09:49] <LordLimecat> ahave: i dont know dude
[09:49] <LordLimecat> ahave: im not an expert, i dont know everythin, and im sorta new too
[09:49] <gyaresu> !language | ahave
[09:49] <ubotu> ahave: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:49] <LordLimecat> im trying my best to help
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Egon: there is a kernel compile howto on the wiki
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Egon: i don't have the URL habdy
[09:49] <LordLimecat> if you get pissed off, youre free to try google
[09:49] <thoreauputic> *handy
[09:49] <Matt4781581> so vista uses fat32 by default??
[09:49] <LordLimecat> no
[09:50] <LordLimecat> vista uses ntfs
[09:50] <LordLimecat> vfat is another term for fat32
[09:50] <pusher2882> yes
[09:50] <LordLimecat> which was used by 9x
[09:50] <Egon> thoreauputic: ubuntu wiki?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Egon: yes
[09:50] <pusher2882> its a ntfs
[09:50] <Matt4781581> yes but hes using vista isnt he
[09:50] <LordLimecat> and is read/write supported by like every system known to man
[09:50] <LordLimecat> no
[09:50] <Egon> thank you
[09:50] <LordLimecat> i really doubt it
[09:50] <LordLimecat> its a SD memory card
[09:50] <pusher2882> yes
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Egon: try searching for Kernel compile
[09:50] <LordLimecat> its using fat32 because thats what EVERYTHIGN supports
[09:50] <Matt4781581> yes but hes using vista isnt he, therfore its ntfs
[09:51] <LordLimecat> linux, printers, windows, (possibly) mac
[09:51] <LordLimecat> no
[09:51] <LordLimecat> dude
[09:51] <LordLimecat> no
[09:51] <thoreauputic> pusher2882: so read the URLs ubotu gave you
[09:51] <LordLimecat> if it was ntfs, it would NOT be fat
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !ntfs | pusher2882
[09:51] <ubotu> pusher2882: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:51] <LordLimecat> !filesystem
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Matt4781581> understood, so he has confirmed that it is fat32
[09:51] <LordLimecat> its vfat, so yes
[09:51] <LordLimecat> it is fat32
[09:51] <LordLimecat> and it is showing mounted in read/write mode
[09:51] <LordLimecat> and yet he cannot write to it
[09:52] <gyaresu> !enter
[09:52] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:52] <LordLimecat> ahave: is there  a locking switch on memory card?
[09:52] <LordLimecat> gyaresu: sorry o.0
[09:52] <gyaresu> LordLimecat: s'aight.
[09:52] <DiscusRapidus> hey, is there a simple howto on running windows (using VMware) in ubuntu?
[09:52] <ahave> no, it is actually a mp3 player in msc mode
[09:52] <ahave> acts as a flash drive
[09:53] <DiscusRapidus> *an existing windows partition
[09:53] <thoreauputic> !vmware
[09:53] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:53] <LordLimecat> what brand is it?  Maybe theyre doing something funky internally?
[09:53] <Matt4781581> !enter
[09:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:53] <Doble> gyaresu: http://www.pasteserver.net/362
[09:53] <ahave> LordLimecat, maybe it is busy deleting? and wont delete anymore? idk
[09:53] <gyaresu> !virtualbox | DiscusRapidus
[09:53] <ubotu> DiscusRapidus: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[09:53] <LordLimecat> i really dont know ahave, maybe someone else knows, or you could try googling o.0
[09:53] <LordLimecat> it really SHOULD be writeable as far as i can tell,
[09:54] <ahave> LordLimecat, sansa e200 series
[09:54] <ahave> LordLimecat, works fine on windows
[09:54] <K3nto> !flicker
[09:54] <gyaresu> ahave: what sort of memory stick and please post the tail of 'dmesg' after you plug it in.
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <ahave> gyaresu, it is a sandisk sans mp3 player acting as a usb flash drive
[09:55] <SkippyX> A while ago I was wondering about ubuntu compatibility and someone advised me to go to a site (I think it was debian) that would scan my machine and tell me what was on it (letting me know it's got drivers). I thought it was cool - and forgot about it.
[09:55] <ahave> gyaresu, what do you mean by dmesg?
[09:55] <thestriker> how to get codecs to play various multimedia files and also which is the best video player?
[09:55] <Will> i accidently removed my trash can from the panel,how do i get it back?
[09:55] <SkippyX> Now I've got a lappy that I need to check - and was wondering if any of y'all might know of a page that does that?
[09:55] <gyaresu> ahave: cool. now unplug and replug then open a terminal and run the command 'dmesg' post the last page of it to pastebin.
[09:56] <ahave> ok
[09:56] <thoreauputic> !codecs > thestriker
[09:56] <gyaresu> Doble: :) got the link. What wasn't working... The USB right?
[09:56] <LordLimecat> i shoulkd go to bed, but ill end up wondering why the hell that drive isnt working o.0
[09:56] <gyaresu> !codecs | thestriker
[09:56] <ubotu> thestriker: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Lynoure> SkippyX: you do not mean http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ ?
[09:57] <Will> i accidently removed my trash can from the panel,how do i get it back?
[09:57] <Lynoure> SkippyX: (one of the first hits with  linux hardware check   search)
[09:57] <SkippyX> Lynoure, I'm not sure - bringing it up now to check.
[09:57] <ahave> trying to unmount... http://rafb.net/p/8xwpIv98.html
[09:57] <LordLimecat> will: rightclick on the corner, add applet
[09:57] <LordLimecat> will: correction, rightclick up top, add to panel
[09:57] <ahave> I dont want to just unplug it. that could hurt it more, right?
[09:57] <Zampaktu> Hello, i have added a news hard disk (NTFS) to my ubuntu edgy machine, how can i have ubuntu automount it? thanks
[09:58] <gyaresu> ahave No. it won't do anything bad.
[09:58] <LordLimecat> drag the trash applet to the place you want it
[09:58] <SkippyX> Lynoure, That might be it. Outstanding. I guess I'll have to use a live disk on the lappy to see if it'll work or not.....
[09:58] <thoreauputic> ahave: get out of the media directory first
[09:58] <pusher2882> thanks it works
[09:58] <vir3nt> Zampaktu: google "ntfs fstab mount"
[09:59] <gyaresu> ahave: do what thoreauputic said. Run 'cd'. That will put you in you home directory.
[09:59] <ahave> yup
[09:59] <ahave> now i plug it back in, let ubuntu auto mount, then type dmesg?
[09:59] <gyaresu> ahave: sure.
[10:00] <Egon> hi again: did somone was having problems with "personal security menager" after upgrading to firefox 2.0 ?
[10:00] <ahave> woa, how much of this do you want?
[10:01] <ahave> http://rafb.net/p/nCbZzn16.html
[10:01] <gyaresu> ahave: last 20 lines or so. plus the output of 'mount'
[10:02] <ahave> mount: http://rafb.net/p/tKwTpC55.html
[10:02] <joshjosh> i accidentally deleted my err systray thing from my top panel. how can i get it back?
[10:02] <logan> hey everyone, I just wanted to pop in here real quick and say that I just got done installing ubuntu and automatix2 and if [bleeping]  rocks
[10:02] <leros2> I'm having some troubles installing networkmanager
[10:02] <logan> so thanks all you devs out there
[10:02] <sanityx> I'm a little confused about what the fuss is about getting codecs, and using automatix and all that. apt-get install vlc. done.
[10:02] <LordLimecat> joshjosh: rightclick the top bar, add to panel
[10:02] <joshjosh> leros2: what ver ubuntu?
[10:02] <gyaresu> ahave: You _have_ to preface your comments with the nick of the person. Or we won't see you.
[10:02] <joshjosh> lordlimecat: I know that, but I can't figure out which option it is
[10:02] <leros2> joshjosh, 6.10
[10:02] <LordLimecat> notification area
[10:03] <LordLimecat> but its invisible
[10:03] <LordLimecat> dont make more than one
[10:03] <joshjosh> ok
[10:03] <LordLimecat> :)
[10:03] <joshjosh> leros2: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[10:03] <ahave> gyaresu, mount: http://rafb.net/p/tKwTpC55.html          dmsgh: http://rafb.net/p/nCbZzn16.html
[10:03] <joshjosh> sudo apt-get install network-manager
[10:03] <joshjosh> try that and see if it'll work that time
[10:04] <joshjosh> thanks limecat
[10:04] <ahave> gyaresu, sorry
[10:04] <gyaresu> ahave: np. Thanks for the links. brb.
[10:04] <LordLimecat> wait a tick, umask...is that like chmod
[10:04] <LordLimecat> if so, shouldnt umask be 0777
[10:05] <LordLimecat> np, josh :D
[10:05] <leros2> joshjosh, do i need to restart?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> LordLimecat: umask is the inverse of chmod
[10:05] <joshjosh> you shouldn't
[10:05] <LordLimecat> ah
[10:05] <gyaresu> ahave: so now can you write to the folder /media/SD\ PLAYER ?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> LordLimecat: so 000 umask = 777 chmod
[10:05] <joshjosh> just type network-manager in console and see if taht launches it
[10:06] <leros2> command not found
[10:06] <Egon> how to install letest personal secirty menager for firefox on ubuntu?
[10:06] <LordLimecat> i see!
[10:06] <joshjosh> hmm
[10:06] <joshjosh> do you absolutely need network-manager? or would you be willing to use knetworkmanager?
[10:06] <leros2> will knetworkmanager work with gnome?
[10:07] <joshjosh> it does for me :)
[10:07] <joshjosh> sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[10:07] <leros2> im game as long as it works
[10:07] <ahave> gyaresu, no. i do not belive that i can
[10:07] <Lynoure> leros2: there is gnome-networkmanager too, something wrong with that?
[10:07] <leros2> i tried network-manager-gnome but i couldnt get it run
[10:07] <thestriker> if a download by apt-get gets broken for any reason can it be resumed?
[10:07] <gyaresu> ahave: 'cd /media/SD\ PLAYER/' then 'touch test.txt' no good?
[10:07] <krimx> I'm trying to open an ISO with VLC but it doesn't work. The Wikipedia article on VLC says it should though. Do I have to manually mount ISOs in Terminal before watching them?
[10:08] <Lynoure> leros2: oh, ok. Not run at all. Weird.
[10:08] <gyaresu> thestriker: yes. no problem.
[10:08] <joshjosh> ok. i'm switching back to gnome after about 6 months with kde and i'm rusty. how do i add programs to startup?
[10:08] <LordLimecat> krimx: i may be wrong, but IIRC, vlc had issues with cds in windows too
[10:08] <LordLimecat> it may be an issue still being worked on
[10:08] <thestriker> gyaresu,  i mean even if i shut the comp down and restart it later...and i enter the command for download..will ir resume?
[10:08] <ahave> gyaresu, touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system
[10:09] <zac1> How do I install an old ISA modem?
[10:09] <gyaresu> krimx: if its a vcd then it will but if it's just an iso with avi's and mpgs then probably not.
[10:09] <thestriker> gyaresu:  i mean even if i shut the comp down and restart it later...and i enter the command for download..will ir resume?
[10:09] <ghatak> My card support 3D rendering then why does X not load GLX extension, ?  >>  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:09] <krimx> gyaresu, It's a dvd
[10:10] <gyaresu> thestriker: Yeah. I think so.
[10:10] <LordLimecat> oh
[10:10] <LordLimecat> does vlc have the DVD decoders in linux?
[10:10] <krimx> LordLimecat, I think you're right
[10:10] <thoreauputic> thestriker: the packages are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:10] <cypher1> LordLimecat: yes
[10:10] <zac1> How do I install an ISA modem?\
[10:10] <khaije> ghatak: do you have the appropriate drivers activated?
[10:10] <LordLimecat> yea, it always screwed up in windows when i tried to open it
[10:10] <LordLimecat> try it in another player?
[10:10] <spotted> Hello, I have installed the package euro-support and euro-support-x but I cannot see the euro symbol when I type it :|
[10:10] <leros2> knetworkmanager seems to be working, is there a built-in network manager i need to disable?
[10:11] <spotted> Can anyone pls help me?
[10:11] <zac1> !isa
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <thoreauputic> zac1: that question is way too vague - and ISA modems are tricky
[10:11] <krimx> LordLimecat, But I still have to mount it and lose at least 10 valuable seconds :)
[10:11] <LordLimecat> it should automount o.0
[10:11] <LordLimecat> is it not?
[10:11] <ghatak> khaije: yes the drivers are correct,
[10:11] <ghatak> let me paste the Xorg.log output in pastebin
[10:12] <K3nto> phew! 4am. its hard to stop using ubuntu :-P
[10:12] <LordLimecat> its hard to leave here
[10:12] <LordLimecat> you learn so much
[10:12] <K3nto> yea
[10:12] <LordLimecat> and helping people is fun
[10:12] <krimx> LordLimecat, No? Is it supposed to automount?
[10:12] <zac1> thoreauputic: It is Newcom NC 28, 801 IFX
[10:12] <LordLimecat> im pretty sure, yea o.0
[10:12] <thestriker> thoreauputic: its in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial for the partial ones..the completed ones are in the folder archives..thanx !
[10:12] <krimx> LordLimecat, how?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> zac1: I think you will have to google for that model with the keyword "linux" - can't help you, sorry
[10:13] <leros2> on knetworkmanager, i can't make it do anything with my wireless
[10:13] <LordLimecat> ..you just stick the disk in, and as far as i know, if you go into computer, it would be there
[10:13] <cypher1> spotted: from the information from package.. did you try "euro-test" script ?
[10:13] <ghatak> khaije: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8514/
[10:13] <krimx> LordLimecat, I thought there would be something in the menu when I right click an iso but nothing there.
[10:13] <joshjosh> leros2: Did you install the drivers? What kind of wireless card?
[10:13] <krimx> LordLimecat, I don't have a disc, I have a downloaded iso :)
[10:13] <LordLimecat> OH!
[10:13] <LordLimecat> yea, you gotta mount that
[10:13] <LordLimecat> think theres a prog that handles stuff like that for you though :)
[10:14] <leros2> joshjosh, the standard dell intel ones, i was using wireless a few minutes ago, i cant just cant seem to make knetworkmanager deal with it
[10:14] <LordLimecat> ...you could burn the iso to disk
[10:14] <cypher1> krimx: you can mount an iso through loopback device
[10:14] <LordLimecat> then insert the disk, and it would automount :)
[10:14] <zac1> thoreauputic: what do you mean keyword?
[10:14] <joshjosh> go to your terminal and type iwconfig and see if it's set to wlan0
[10:15] <spotted> cypher1, I cannot display the euro symbol when iso8859-15 is used and I cannot type it with altgr+e. Then it says that it cannot determine my Xfree version properly
[10:15] <thoreauputic> zac1: try googling something like  Newcom NC 28, 801 IFX linux install
[10:15] <leros2> joshjosh, its set to eth1
[10:15] <arooni> how do i ssh somewhere
[10:15] <joshjosh> hmm
[10:15] <thoreauputic> arooni: ssh user@hostname
[10:15] <arooni> also how do switch between tabs of my console
[10:15] <leros2> joshjosh, im even connected to a wireless right now, it works fine
[10:16] <khaije> ghatak: checking it out now
[10:16] <thoreauputic> arooni: ctrl-shift-t
[10:16] <arooni> damn thoreauputic you know all
[10:16] <cypher1> spotted: did u configure it ?
[10:16] <krimx> cyphase, yeah I found a thread with an example, would be convenient with that option in the right click-menu though.
[10:16] <thoreauputic> arooni: not quite :)
[10:16] <LordLimecat> isnt there a gui prog that does rdp, vnc, and ssh?
[10:16] <spotted> cypher1, I told you what it said...
[10:16] <zac1> thoreauputic: No luck!
[10:16] <thestriker> speaking of console..can anyone plz tell how to configure it!..i mean change the font color so it will look cool and stuff!!
[10:16] <spotted> cyphase, it cannot determine the Xfree version in use therefore it cannot configure anything...
[10:16] <LordLimecat> nvm
[10:16] <cypher1> spotted: try euro-test and see whether you need to configure
[10:17] <cypher1> spotted: ok
[10:17] <arooni> do you folks use linux cuz you develop ?
[10:17] <micktm> hi!!
[10:17] <thoreauputic> zac1: as i said, ISA is a pain on linux - most of this stuff is ancient and has only windows drivers if that
[10:17] <joshjosh> leros2: but you have wireless right now?
[10:17] <zac1> !modem
[10:17] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:17] <Lynoure> leros2: I think you have the normal problem with knetworkmanager. Try commenting out the interfaces in /etc/intefaces  and trying again.  If it does not help, just uncomment to get back to where you are now
[10:17] <theidiotthatisme> arooni: I dont develop. I chose for many reasons :-)
[10:17] <cypher1> spotted: there is a document also included in that .. you can check it
[10:17] <thoreauputic> arooni: no, we use linux because it develops us :)
[10:18] <Lynoure> leros2: ooops /etc/interfaces
[10:18] <micktm> someone knows where does evolution save my email messages?
[10:18] <LordLimecat> LOL@ thoreauputic
[10:18] <LordLimecat> so true :D
[10:18] <leros2> joshjosh, my wireless works fine, i can configure it via terminal, but i'm looking for a gui solution
[10:18] <LordLimecat> in soviet russia...
[10:18] <leros2> lynoure, let me try that
[10:18] <joshjosh> arooni: I use it because i hate viruses, malware.
[10:18] <cypher1> krimx: looks a nice option
[10:18] <theidiotthatisme> arooni: My biggest reasons were customization of the desktop, Free applications, and wanting something that I could tune to work the way I wanted
[10:18] <thestriker> hey guys!..help me plz..i thgt this channel will help!
[10:18] <arooni> thoreauputic: ctrl-shift-t opens a new tab window... how do i switch among active ones opened alreayd
[10:18] <joshjosh> leros2: you could try wifi-radar. I had the same problem with dapper, but that was about 8 months ago heh
[10:18] <cypher1> !ask > thestriker
[10:18] <thoreauputic> arooni: click on them ?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:18] <Lynoure> leros2: it requires at least restarting knetworkmanager afterward.
[10:18] <arooni> from the keyboard silly
[10:19] <thoreauputic> arooni: I don't know :)
[10:19] <Ademan> what torrent clients do you guys use? i've been using ktorrent, it's pretty good except it keeps stopping my downloads with some crap about too many files open
[10:19] <leros2> basically, im looking for a simple wifi network manager like windows xp has
[10:19] <krimx> arooni, ctrl+page down and up? nah I'm just guessing
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Ademan: limit your number of torrents and/or open files
[10:19] <micktm> someone knows where does evolution save my email messages?
[10:19] <LordLimecat> ahave, no luck? :(
[10:20] <arooni> krimx: you nailed it!!!
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Ademan: or use azureus, rtorrent, qrorrent, etc etc
[10:20] <ahave> LordLimecat, none yet
[10:20] <LordLimecat> :9
[10:20] <spotted> cypher1, I don't understand why dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work anymore...
[10:20] <krimx> Ademan, I use rtorrent. Deluge seems fine but I haven't tried it, Transmission isn't very nice.
[10:20] <LordLimecat> well, i gotta sign off
[10:20] <krimx> arooni, wohoo :)
[10:20] <LordLimecat> good luck, ahave
[10:20] <cypher1> krimx: you can try whether mount through loop back is shown in the right click after you start the nautilus through gksudo
[10:21] <ahave> LordLimecat, thanks for your help
[10:21] <spotted> cypher1, before that ran a script that let you configure your environment...
[10:21] <khaije> ghatak: can you pastebin the result of the glxinfo command? also have you edited xorg.conf manually and did you get the driver from repo's or website?
[10:21] <LordLimecat> np, sorry i couldnt fix it
[10:21] <st0n3cutt3r> I need help connecting to my wireless internet on ubuntu
[10:21] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[10:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:21] <ufuntu> hello
[10:21] <st0n3cutt3r> and also bridging my wireless and wired connections if possible
[10:21] <cypher1> spotted: i have not tried euro-support.. i just read the package info and told you
[10:22] <gyaresu> !hi > ufuntu
[10:22] <darkcommon> !hi ufuntu
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi ufuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: read the docs ubotu posted
[10:22] <darkcommon> !hi
[10:22] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:22] <st0n3cutt3r> I'm reading
[10:22] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: and come back with more specific questions if needed :)
[10:22] <cyclops> I am wondering, I have a pda that I want to be able to connect to my LAN via bluetooth, but I want it to use the DHCP server for its configuration so it is actually on the LAN.
[10:23] <st0n3cutt3r> I have a specific question
[10:23] <krimx> cypher1, nope, it didn't. No big deal though, I'll try and find some way to make it convenient if it starts to bug me.
[10:23] <arooni> where is the 'my documents' on ubuntu
[10:23] <leros2> joshjosh, wifi-radar is installed and i can see all the access points around me. How do I connect to an access point? I double click and nothing happens
[10:23] <arooni> is it my home direcotry
[10:23] <krimx> arooni, /home/arooni
[10:23] <ncaller> when I boot ubuntu 6.10 server on this new HP box I got, I get: Booting the kernel. 0.000000]  dmi_string: out of memory 0.000000]  dmi_save_oem_strings_devices: out of memory
[10:23] <ncaller> Any ideas?
[10:23] <theidiotthatisme> arooni: Yes, it's Home
[10:23] <thoreauputic> arooni: it isn't - it is more or less your home directory
[10:23] <ncaller> oh it is 64bit version as well
[10:24] <thoreauputic> arooni: for all practical purposes :)
[10:24] <st0n3cutt3r> I am running ubuntu 6.10 and have two different wireless cards that I can use
[10:24] <st0n3cutt3r> I know the name and pswd for my wireless modem
[10:24] <st0n3cutt3r> and enter them into the wireless profiles for each card
[10:25] <st0n3cutt3r> (one at a time, or together, it makes no difference)
[10:25] <st0n3cutt3r> despite ubuntu recognizing that I have wireless cards, I can not access the network
[10:25] <st0n3cutt3r> there is nothing to block people accessing the network
[10:26] <st0n3cutt3r> and my other operating systems on the computer can use those cards to access it
[10:26] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: try emoving the configurations, and install network-manager-gnome
[10:26] <thoreauputic> *remocing
[10:26] <thoreauputic> bah
[10:26] <st0n3cutt3r> can I get it without having ubuntu attached to the internet
[10:26] <st0n3cutt3r> ?
[10:26] <st0n3cutt3r> (like a seperate download that I can get with windows?)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: ah, catch 22
[10:27] <cyphase> krimx, spotted: i think you meant cypher1
[10:27] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: yes, try packages.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: thoreauputic You can download the .deb file (on another computer)  and install it with dpkg.
[10:27] <slippyr4> don't forget it's dependancies though
[10:27] <spotted> cypher1, yes, sorry
[10:27] <spotted> I meant cypherl
[10:27] <darkcommon> an offtopic question: I have Imagenio, what is SPDIF
[10:27] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: make sure you get the dependencies as well ( network-manager and nm-applet I think)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: yes, thank you - I know about that :)
[10:28] <ghatak> any luck with that glx error mate ?
[10:28] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ theidiotthatisme just keeping you in the loop ;)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: and get the right version for your Ubuntu ( the edgy or dapper one etc)
[10:28] <gyaresu> theidiotthatisme: ignore that message.
[10:28] <gyaresu> thoreauputic: ^^
[10:28] <slippyr4> SPDIF is Sony/Philips Digital Interface
[10:28] <st0n3cutt3r> I'm on 6.1, which version is that?
[10:28] <slippyr4> darkcommon: ie, optical audio out
[10:29] <slippyr4> edgy eft
[10:29] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: 6.10 is edgy eft
[10:29] <st0n3cutt3r> ok
[10:29] <darkcommon> why?? SPDIF is an RCA cable!! connect to CD In??
[10:29] <ghatak> khaije: any luck mate ?
[10:30] <slippyr4> darkcommon: what do you want to do with it? i just saw you asked what spdif was
[10:30] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: find the package you need then 'apt-cache showpkg thingy' will tell you versions.
[10:30] <khaije> ghatak: did you post answers to the questions i asked? i didn't see it...
[10:30] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I don't understand
[10:30] <darkcommon> What port i need to connect in the amplificator of my Home Cinema??
[10:30] <st0n3cutt3r> sry, I am new to linux/ubuntu
[10:31] <poningru> st0n3cutt3r: whats wrong?
[10:31] <st0n3cutt3r> I'm a power-user when it comes to windows, but...
[10:31] <thoreauputic> !docs | st0n3cutt3r
[10:31] <ubotu> st0n3cutt3r: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:31] <st0n3cutt3r> poningru: I'm trying to get my wireless cards to access the internet
[10:31] <slippyr4> darkcommon: you are trying to get sound out of your pc, into your home cinema? or the other way round?
[10:31] <nwonknu-> hey
[10:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: that's alright. I can help you via command line but you may prefer thoreauputic to help you. I think he's more gui.
[10:31] <ncaller> on ubuntu server I see that it does not install a GUI by default which is cool, what are the names of the gnome or kde environments for ubuntu-server that I can apt-get install
[10:31] <joshjosh> st0n3cutt3r: What kind of wireless cards?
[10:31] <darkcommon> nope, by my deco, to a homecinema
[10:31] <nwonknu-> I'll find out
[10:31] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: hah
[10:31] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: you couldn't be more wrong
[10:32] <slippyr4> st0n3cutt3r: network-manager is a good choice for that, i use it, it works very nicely
[10:32] <gyaresu> thoreauputic: that was _so_ not meant to be an insult :)
[10:32] <st0n3cutt3r> I have a belkin and a linksys card
[10:32] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: :)
[10:32] <joshjosh> type lspci in terminal and tell me what it says for network controller
[10:33] <st0n3cutt3r> joshjosh: was that too me?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: I run fluxbox and roll my own regularly, and i have two Debian chroots on this box :)
[10:33] <slippyr4> darkcommon: what do you mean "by my deco" ?
[10:33] <joshjosh> stone: yeah
[10:33] <gugu^> please HELP. i have instaled LaserJet1018, and the test page is ok, but is not printing
[10:33] <darkcommon> from my.... for example "decodificateur"
[10:34] <st0n3cutt3r> joshjosh: the only problem with that is that this computer accesses the internet via a bridged connection on my other computer (where ubuntu is installed)
[10:34] <st0n3cutt3r> to type that will mean restarting my pc and losing internet on this computer
[10:34] <slippyr4> darkcommon: you have an external, separate decoder ? what does it decode? DTS? Dolby Digital?
[10:35] <st0n3cutt3r> are there more instructions for me to take down before I do so?  (seeing as it's going to take at least 5 minutes to do that
[10:35] <darkcommon> its an Kreatel
[10:35] <joshjosh> st0n3cutt3r: Hmm. I don't know if I can help you there. I know nothing of bridged connections.
[10:35] <loppa> Is there an irc channel for Suse? Or linux generally?
[10:35] <darkcommon> its Telefonica de Espana, SLU "Imagenio Service"
[10:35] <ahave> gyaresu, thanks for your help. i gotta goto work now. cya
[10:35] <st0n3cutt3r> well, having internet on my primary computer is a good place to start
[10:35] <krimx> I found a guide for mounting iso files in Nautilus if anyones interested, it's at http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Mount_ISO_script
[10:35] <darkcommon> loppa /j #suse
[10:36] <st0n3cutt3r> I just want to get as much done per restart as I can
[10:36] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: the main issue with wireless in Linux is drivers - some are not supported although ndiswrapper might help
[10:36] <loppa> darkcommon thnx. : )
[10:36] <slippyr4> darkcommon: kreatel is iptv?
[10:36] <darkcommon> slippyr4: yes!
[10:36] <st0n3cutt3r> thoreauputic: how can I test ndiswrapper and what can it do?
[10:36] <darkcommon> slippyr4: Its an SPDIF out, I have a L114 HomeCinema of Airis
[10:36] <slippyr4> darkcommon: ok, and the kreatel has a SPDIF on it, and you want to connect to your Home Cinema Amp
[10:36] <darkcommon> yes
[10:36] <joshjosh> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[10:37] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: it basically acts as a linux wrapper for windows drivers
[10:37] <slippyr4> darkcommon: is the SPDIF optical, or a coaxial (phono) connection
[10:37] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: I suggest that you read the wifi wiki docs
[10:37] <st0n3cutt3r> alright, how can I use it?  (and what version of windows drivers should I use?)
[10:37] <darkcommon> my amp only have a CD IN without any RCA connector in it
[10:37] <st0n3cutt3r> thoreauputic: any of them? all of them?
[10:37] <st0n3cutt3r> there are a lot
[10:38] <thoreauputic> st0n3cutt3r: first find out if your chipset is supported or not :)
[10:38] <darkcommon> its good connect on it?? or need a coaxial??
[10:38] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: the forums are great for success stories from folks with the same devices...
[10:38] <yomm> How is wireless performance under ndiswrapper ?
[10:38] <joshjosh> yomm: better than it is with the fwcutter
[10:38] <slippyr4> darkcommon what sort of connector is CD IN?
[10:38] <darkcommon> a connector RCA
[10:38] <yomm> I see !
[10:39] <slippyr4> darkcommon: there is 1 connector? or two?
[10:39] <darkcommon> two, Left and Right
[10:40] <slippyr4> darkcommon, ok then you can't connect the IPTV to the amp with spdif. does the iptv not have RCA out on it?
[10:40] <snoogie> Hello
[10:40] <darkcommon> no... only an SPDIF
[10:40] <loppa> Ive got some problems with my gaim. The log on button is grey, so I cant press it. Any ideas?
[10:40] <darkcommon> but the SPDIF is an RED RCA
[10:40] <slippyr4> darkcommon: they use the same sort of plug, but the signal is very different
[10:41] <NTNP> salut tlm
[10:41] <darkcommon> amm... its possible the connection to the DVD??
[10:41] <gyaresu> loppa: hold ALT and right-click with your mouse to drag window size.
[10:41] <gyaresu> loppa: (left click drag to move whole window)
[10:41] <slippyr4> darkcommon: you would need to buy a DAC to convert the digital to audio
[10:41] <arooni> is there anyway to make ubuntu's estimates of how much power i have left more accurate?  its saying my laptop battery will last 12 more minutes when its at 69% full
[10:41] <darkcommon> ammm.. ok
[10:42] <slippyr4> darkcommon: what other connections are on the IPTV ? is there SCART / Peritel?
[10:42] <loppa> gyaresu: I dont think thats the problem, the thing is, I cant log on because the button I'm sposed to press aint "pressable"?
[10:43] <gyaresu> loppa: possibly not letting you because of insufficent login information? Or a bug.
[10:43] <the_stig> Hey fellas
[10:43] <ghatak>  khaije:  i got dc'ed, sorry i did not see it. apologies
[10:43] <the_stig> this might sound super noob
[10:43] <gyaresu> loppa: New install?
[10:43] <the_stig> but how do i run the command prompt? i just installed
[10:43] <loppa> gyaresu: I've created an account, and i've typed the passy, still its gray. So bug then?
[10:43] <gyaresu> the_stig: You need a 'terminal'
[10:44] <gyaresu> !docs > the_stig
[10:44] <slippyr4> darkcommon: what other connections are on the IPTV ? is there SCART / Peritel?
[10:44] <the_stig> o
[10:44] <the_stig> !docs
[10:44] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:44] <cypher1> the_stig: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:44] <gyaresu> loppa: Tryed upgrading?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> the_stig: Apps - Accessories - Terminal
[10:44] <loppa> gyaresu: upgrading the gaim?
[10:44] <khaije> ghatak: i just asked if you could pastebin the output to 'glxinfo' and how you installed the drivers
[10:44] <gyaresu> the_stig: the ">" redirect was so it didn't flood the channel :)
[10:44] <gyaresu> loppa: yep. Is it a new ubuntu install?
[10:45] <loppa> gyaresu: actually its Suse 10.2, but theres no people in the suse channel.
[10:45] <slippyr4> there never are
[10:45] <slippyr4> imho suse has lost it's way
[10:45] <loppa> gyaresu: so I figured i'd try here, and then hope somebody knew anything 'bout it.
[10:46] <gyaresu> loppa: Then you still want to upgrade the system.
[10:46] <theidiotthatisme> When following directions on Launchpad to generate a gpg (for signing the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct), on step three it asks for key-id. What is the key-id from the output of gpg --list-keys emailaddress
[10:46] <theidiotthatisme> Sorry step two and three
[10:46] <GhostFreeman> hey you guys know where Gnome tucks away its theme icons
[10:46] <GhostFreeman> like the trashcan, disk mounts and such?
[10:46] <loppa> gyaresu: the whole thing?
[10:46] <GhostFreeman> I got some custom icons i'd like to add into the mix
[10:46] <ghatak> khaije: right, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8515/, i installed the drivers using the article on ubuntu site for nvidia binary driver. I would mention that i had a driver before this which i downloaded from nvidia site and it was giving me grief.
[10:47] <the_stig> How do i upgrade to 6.10.. im on 5.04
[10:47] <gyaresu> loppa: Start with upgrading gaim if you can.
[10:47] <gyaresu> !upgrade > the_stig
[10:47] <loppa> gyaresu: have to use yast then?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> Now Playing: This guy's in love with you by Burt Bacharach from The Best of (0:40/4:46)
[10:47] <slippyr4> ghostfreeman: somewhere under /usr/share/pixmaps iirc
[10:47] <gyaresu> loppa: pft! i have no idea :)
[10:47] <livingdaylight> HI Guys!
[10:48] <GhostFreeman> much obliged good sir
[10:48] <GhostFreeman> or good madam
[10:48] <thoreauputic> livingdaylight: please turn that script off :)
[10:48] <gyaresu> !hello
[10:48] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:48] <loppa> gyaresu: that would be the same thing as synaptic in ubuntu. SOrt of.
[10:48] <GhostFreeman> better yet, how do I drop a trash icon onto my Gnome desktop?
[10:48] <gyaresu> loppa: yes it is.
[10:48] <ghatak> khaije: i also found that symlink libGLcore.so.1 was pointing to the old driver /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9631 while there is another one now which is /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8774 , i am changed the symlink and X has come up, but the resolution is weired, it only now shows 1024x768 as max
[10:48] <livingdaylight> Q: is it necessary to turn one's computer off when switching monitors?
[10:49] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: No.
[10:49] <loppa> gyaresu: eventually, there might be some other clients I could use?
[10:49] <ghatak> khaije: the resolution with /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9631 is ok, but glx wont load
[10:49] <afflux> theidiotthatisme: the key-id is the eight-character "id" in a line like: pub   1024D/71042B24 --- this would mean 71042B24
[10:49] <arooni> is there anyway to make ubuntu's estimates of how much power i have left more accurate?  its saying my laptop battery will last 12 more minutes when its at 69% full
[10:49] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, thx...so you are certain its quite ok for me to take my monitor cable off and put it on a different terminal?
[10:49] <theidiotthatisme> afflux: Thanks a bunch! Been trying to figure it out so i could sign the CoF
[10:49] <gyaresu> loppa: Yes you can use other clients.
[10:50] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: absolutely.
[10:50] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, thx :D
[10:50] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: np.
[10:50] <arooni> how can i view windows media player files within firefox
[10:50] <arooni> video files that its
[10:50] <arooni> that is
[10:50] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, that makes switching alot easier. I have a 26" lcd tv i like to switch to to watch my dvd's :D
[10:51] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: Rebooting would be rather bothersome.
[10:51] <gyaresu> arooni: from websites or from your hard drive?
[10:51] <arooni> gyaresu: from websites
[10:52] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, yea! really, that's why i hoped it would be ok. So, what happens to the electical signals as i take the cable off? Aguess, they're not bothered?
[10:52] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: very low voltage.
[10:52] <zac1> How do I install a modem
[10:52] <gyaresu> arooni: mozilla-mplayer
[10:53] <gyaresu> zac1: adsl or dialup ?
[10:53] <zac1> Dial-up
[10:53] <gyaresu> zac1: any linux experience?
[10:53] <ghatak> khaije: i hope you got all that info ?
[10:53] <arooni> gyaresu: will that work in firefox?  do i need to do anything after installing it?
[10:53] <zac1> gyaresu: yes
[10:54] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: One of the last things I do when I set up a server is unplug the monitor, keyboard and mose.. and nothing bad ever happens. So, I don't think anything bad will happen when you switch monitors.
[10:54] <gyaresu> zac1: Is the dialup modem internal or external?
[10:54] <zac1> gyaresu: internal ISA
[10:54] <ahron> does anyone know if anyone has gotten ati xpress 200m and fglrx working with desktop-effects or beryl in feisty, i upgraded and cant get it to work. or should i try another channel
[10:55] <gyaresu> arooni: I've found it inconsistent. Just don't find any wmv based websites that i watch anymore, so I don't know what the latest version is like.
[10:55] <livingdaylight> ardchoille, thanks for reassuring me. When one doesn't know one can get paranoid or superstitious ^^ but rebooting everytime just to switch monitors is bothersome...So, i'm glad to hear it's easy
[10:55] <gyaresu> zac1: It _might_ work but will probably suck.
[10:55] <darkcommon> slippyr4 Yes, SCART
[10:55] <zac1> gyaresu: how will it suck?
[10:55] <gyaresu> !modem | zac1
[10:55] <ubotu> zac1: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:55] <slippyr4> darkcommon: you use the scart to connect to your TV?
[10:55] <darkcommon> yes
[10:56] <zac1> gyaresu: yes
[10:56] <darkcommon> please send me a OM
[10:56] <gyaresu> zac1: most internals are winmodems. external ones are hardware modulator/demodulators.
[10:56] <arooni> gyaresu: that works great thanx
[10:56] <gyaresu> zac1: winmodem (software based)
[10:56] <zac1> gyaresu: it is from 1995
[10:57] <gyaresu> arooni: cool. I might give it another go. Got a link to a site for me to check something out?
[10:57] <gyaresu> zac1: what's the lscpi line for the modem?
[10:58] <zac1> gyaresu: what is lcspi line
[10:58] <arooni> nothing that fun... just stuff on break.com or collegehumor.com ;p
[10:58] <arooni> see it seems to me unless this kinda stuff is installed by default
[10:58] <arooni> its gonna scare away the typical user
[10:58] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell zac1 about modem
[10:59] <joshjosh> arooni: You can't just magically create an out of box OS for every system out there...you never tried installing linux 4 or 5 years ago. heh
[10:59] <z9999> Anyone experienced in doing a system re-install? Who could answer some questions? Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:59] <gyaresu> arooni: plenty of free codecs for streaming video... all good topics for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:59] <Razoz> hi, can any1 help me with a thing? In private
[11:00] <gyaresu> zac1: command 'lspci' lists pci devices so you can find out what the modem is _really_
[11:00] <joshjosh> what ver of ubuntu you running arooni?
[11:00] <gyaresu> z9999: yup.
[11:00] <slippyr4> z9999: how is a reinstall different from an install? we've all installed at some point. you'd be best just asking your real question
[11:01] <slippyr4> razoz ask it in channel and someone will help if they know how
[11:01] <zac1> gyaresu: it is not PCI, it is ISA.
[11:01] <gyaresu> z9999: great thing is that as long as you keep your _entire_ home directory you can reinstall and then just dump it back in.
[11:01] <Kuba> hi everyone
[11:01] <joshjosh> arooni: Go into synaptic and search for gstreamer. install the ones with the ubuntu logo beside them
[11:01] <gyaresu> zac1: forget about it. It is too old. Trust me. Don't argue. Run away from it screaming.
[11:01] <slippyr4> gyaresu: unless you create new users in a different order and then the file ownerships are off
[11:02] <gyaresu> zac1: You've got a PII huh?
[11:02] <Razoz> Ive got a real problem that i wanna solve, can anyone help med out?
[11:02] <gyaresu> !question
[11:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:02] <zac1> gyaresu: you mean it won't work?
[11:02] <slippyr4> !hi | Kuba
[11:02] <ubotu> Kuba: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:02] <gyaresu> zac1: That would be a more literal interpretation. Yes.
[11:02] <Kuba> does anyone know why after i built and compile my kernel now i can not log in to my system
[11:03] <z9999> We didn't do the original install as the system was purchased with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS pre-installed.
[11:03] <z9999> Do you have to back up your home directory first? and what about email?
[11:03] <gyaresu> Kuba: Probably.
[11:03] <Kuba> when i type login and password.
[11:03] <slippyr4> gyaresu: why wouldn't it work? if it's ISA its not a winmodem; its probably basicaly a 16550 UART, which ought to be supported
[11:03] <Kuba> i see fora moment the same screen...
[11:03] <Kuba> and so one
[11:03] <schasi> I have a onboard Geforce 6100, feisty fawn and a 1680x1050 Display. I cannot use the full resolution. Tried modelines, "UseEdidFreqs" so far. Any ideas?
[11:03] <Razoz> When i start Xubuntu up, everything is okay but FX is slow as f**k! It takes like 1 min to load a webpage! The whole system is gay, everything laggy. Can it be my Graphic drivers?
[11:04] <joshjosh> i want to make a bot named Deep Thought that answers 42 to every sentence with a question mark.
[11:04] <zac1> Does anyone know how to install an ISA modem?
[11:04] <slippyr4> z9999 your email is in your home directory. do ls -la and you'll see the hidden files and folders
[11:04] <Razoz> The networkport is integrated in my motherboard
[11:04] <Kuba> why could i do bad?
[11:04] <gyaresu> slippyr4: Hey have fun helping that one. I'm just wondering what use it would be.
[11:05] <slippyr4> gyaresu for sure, it;s old and crap, but i think it might work out the box and just be a tty somewhere
[11:05] <joshjosh> schasi: I have the same problem, but i need to get to 1280x800. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will help you set it up
[11:05] <Razoz> Can anyone help me ffs?
[11:05] <schasi> joshjosh: Did not help
[11:05] <schasi> Tried that a few times
[11:05] <Kuba> what about me:)
[11:05] <steel_lady> My amule doesn't want to launch any more. Help!!!
[11:06] <slippyr4> zacl: have a look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html
[11:06] <Flannel> !patience | Razoz
[11:06] <ubotu> Razoz: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:06] <zac1> Does anyone know how to instoll a 1995 ISA modem?
[11:06] <Razoz> okay, sorry all
[11:06] <Flannel> Razoz: you graphics drivers wouldn't affect firefox's page load time
[11:06] <Flannel> !ipv6 | Razoz
[11:06] <ubotu> Razoz: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:07] <joshjosh> schasi: same here. we're in the same boat
[11:07] <gyaresu> slippyr4: ISA modem. Don't know about you but there is some of my Linux learning that still gives me nightmares. 48hr kernel compiles are there too. zac1 How bad do you want this old box to be running that modem?
[11:07] <Razoz> Flenell: But the whole system is also pretty slow, But the probs with FX is worse!
[11:07] <zac1> gyaresu: very badly
[11:07] <z9999> slippyr4: Do we have to move the contents of the Home directory to some other system 1st? And how do you begin the reinstall? We haven't ever done one. Will anything remain intact at all?
[11:07] <schasi> Huh? Didnt you just say i will help me set it up?
[11:08] <Flannel> z9999: Depends on how your partitioning is done.  Pastebin /etc/fstab
[11:08] <poningru> Razoz: actually with 3.0 firefox your graphics card will determine how fast firefox performs
[11:08] <slippyr4> z9999: no nothing will remain intact. if you backup your home dir to another system, then you will be able to get stuff like your documents, your mail back
[11:08] <Kuba> hey..............
[11:08] <Doksi> i've got rosegarden working but cant get in/out on midi using game port
[11:08] <joshjosh> install swiftfox if you're mad at how fast it's going
[11:09] <gyaresu> z9999: Why do you need to reinstall?
[11:09] <slippyr4> zacl: have a look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html
[11:09] <schasi> joshjosh: woops, sry
[11:09] <Kuba> why i can't log in to my system after i compiled my kernel?
[11:10] <schasi> Kuba: You mean you provide username and password, but cannot log in?
[11:10] <gyaresu> Kuba: You may have filled the HDD. If you can get to the login and it won't let you then that might be it.
[11:10] <slippyr4> zacl: have you actually plugged the modem in yet? if so, pastebin the output of dmesg
[11:10] <gyaresu> Kuba: can you go to the F2 terminal and login there?
[11:11] <Kuba> i provide username and password and for a moment i see this screen again
[11:11] <Doksi> you cant login if your /tmp dir is not set as +t 7777
[11:11] <Kuba> and so one
[11:11] <z9999> slippyr4: Will the HD be formatted when you begin? And will we have to make partitions etc? As we don't know how much space we should allocate if so.
[11:11] <slippyr4> Kuba: did you keep your previous kernel? can you boot with that and then login?
[11:11] <Kuba> yes
[11:11] <Kuba> slippyr4:yes
[11:11] <eshaase> is it all possible to su to root? having to sudo all the time is kinda annoying, especially when i can't cd into directories
[11:12] <Doksi> kuba are you using usb keyboard?
[11:12] <slippyr4> z9999: on the install you will have several choices for partitioning. A good one to use will be the "erase entire disk and partition automaticallY"
[11:12] <Flannel> eshaase: If you really want a root shell, use `sudo -i`
[11:12] <Razoz> poningru: 3.0?? I thougt that 2.0.0.2 was the newest
[11:12] <slippyr4> eshaase: you can sudo su -
[11:12] <Flannel> z9999: you format during the install, and it all depends, but isn't too difficult anyway.  If you have a certain method of partitioning currently, you won't need to backup your home dir, as you can install the system "around" it.
[11:12] <Flannel> slippyr4: that's no good.  sudo -i is much better
[11:12] <Kuba> Doksi:no
[11:13] <poningru> Razoz: alpha
[11:13] <slippyr4> eshaase: or, if you're really determined, you could change the root password with sudo passwd root, then you can login or su to root directly. expect flamewar as to whether you should actually do this
[11:13] <poningru> minefield
[11:13] <slippyr4> flannel: why is it no good?
[11:13] <Flannel> slippyr4: there's (almost) no reason for anyone to need a root password.
[11:13] <steel_lady> I think I hanve the general problem actually because I can't launch various applications and I think I know what caused it but I don't know how to mend it
[11:13] <Kuba> maybe i made a mistake with typing tekst in menu.lst??
[11:14] <gyaresu> Flannel: slippyr4 eshaase or you set up the sudoers file 'visudo'
[11:14] <Razoz> poningru: : Okay, u know how to solve the FXisgoingslow problem? My conecction is fine in windows :s
[11:14] <gyaresu> Flannel: slippyr4 eshaase Ignore my last.
[11:14] <eshaase> slippyr4: ok, i like the whole concept of only sudo but at times it does get annoying (no permission to cd somewhere)
[11:14] <Kuba> what should i type in menu.lst
[11:14] <Kuba> ???
[11:14] <poningru> Razoz: try the ipv6 fix
[11:15] <slippyr4> Flannel: that's debatable (root pw). there are strong arguments for and against
[11:15] <joshjosh> sudo su won't let you?
[11:15] <Flannel> slippyr4: no. there are no reasons for an ubuntu user to need a root password (except for some old software, but thats fixed in newer versions of said software)
[11:15] <slippyr4> eshaase: i told you *how* to get round it, now you have to choose whether you think it's a good idea or not
[11:16] <Flannel> eshaase: `sudo -i` will get you a root shell
[11:16] <slippyr4> Flannel: i have an ubuntu server at work. I only ever log into it for sysadmin tasks. So i use root.
[11:16] <eshaase> slippyr4: =) ok, thanks
[11:16] <slippyr4> flannel: but it's really 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
[11:16] <Kuba>  what should i type in menu.lst???
[11:17] <ardchoille> slippyr4: I have been using Ubuntu since Warty and have never needed to enable the root account. Any admin tasks you need to do can be done with sudo.
[11:17] <slippyr4> flannel: but a n00b probably shouldnt be root
[11:17] <Flannel> slippyr4: In this channel, we don't want to cause headaches for users, as such, we don't advocate things that people don't need (or that will complicate stuff later), setting a root password is one of them.  You're more than welcome to do it separately on your own system, but when supporting here, not.
[11:18] <Askar> What do I need to install to do a swedish spellcheck in AbiWord?
[11:18] <slippyr4> flannel: look back at what i wrote: he asked how to do it, so i told him, and i warned him that it wasn;t a good idea. THAT is what support is
[11:19] <slippyr4> flannel: it's not to be recommended, sure. but if someone asks, he shall be told. it's not your place to decide that some other guy shouldnt be able to do what he wants
[11:19] <Razoz> Does any1 know?
[11:19] <joshjosh> razoz, know what?
[11:19] <Razoz> poningru: : What?  Im newb @ linux
[11:20] <Flannel> slippyr4: sudo -i is more than capable replacement, theres no need for sudo su -
[11:20] <poningru> !ipv6 | Razoz
[11:20] <ubotu> Razoz: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:20] <Razoz> joshjosh: , my router lagged, couldent see waht you was writing 8)
[11:20] <poningru> Razoz: disable ipv6
[11:20] <Razoz> poningru: , thx
[11:20] <Askar> What do I need to install to do a swedish spellcheck in AbiWord?
[11:21] <st0n3cutt3r_> alright, I need help again.  I found specific directions for my adapter, but they want me to have internet access to complete them.  can I get the files listed in step 2 from outside of ubuntu?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[11:21] <Razoz> poningru: , just wanna know. What exactly is ipv6?
[11:21] <Razoz> it for Internet Protocal like windows? :P
[11:22] <gyaresu>  Razoz google dude
[11:22] <Razoz> gyaresu: , yeah 8)
[11:22] <Doksi> any help for rosegarden midi?
[11:22] <st0n3cutt3r_> also the network manager I downloaded insisted that it was the wrong type
[11:22] <poningru> Razoz: hehe
[11:22] <ghatak>  X is not loading GLX extension, my card is NVidia GForce4 440MX, see glx failing in Xorg.log >>
[11:22] <ghatak>                 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8517/
[11:23] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: No way of plugging this laptop into a LAN then?
[11:23] <Razoz> poningru: : Thx for the tip
[11:23] <poningru> Razoz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6
[11:23] <poningru> yep
[11:23] <ghatak> please help
[11:23] <st0n3cutt3r_> I have an amd athlon 64 processor and downloaded the version I thought I needed for it
[11:23] <xdiska> hi
[11:23] <xdiska> there's someone?
[11:23] <gyaresu> !welcome | xdiska
[11:23] <ubotu> xdiska: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:23] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: This mac can only access the internet via a bridged connection through my pc (which contains ubuntu)
[11:23] <Kuba> bye
[11:23] <xdiska> i upgraded from edgy to feisty
[11:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: ah. tricky and annoying.
[11:24] <jussi01> !feisty | xdiska
[11:24] <ubotu> xdiska: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <st0n3cutt3r_> indeed
[11:24] <xdiska> but now when i do try to shutdown my pc it reboot but dont halt
[11:24] <st0n3cutt3r_> I attempted to connect it directly to the modem, but it can't get internet like that for some reason
[11:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: so you can download the .deb packages that you need for network-manager or whatever by finding out what version you need.
[11:24] <jussi01> xdiska, --> #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <Manny> i
[11:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: that's what I am having a problem with
[11:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> can you help?
[11:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: sure
[11:25] <xdiska> what mean hussi?
[11:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> ubuntu 6.10 amd 64 processor
[11:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: eating soup as well but we'll get there.
[11:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> idk what other information you need
[11:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> I'm running the 32 bit version of ubuntu... if it makes a difference
[11:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: Did you install the 64bit version?
[11:25] <jussi01> xdiska, you need to as feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 channel
[11:26] <xdiska> ok i understn
[11:26] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: oh. thank goodness.
[11:26] <xdiska> sorry
[11:26] <xdiska> thanks
[11:26] <st0n3cutt3r_> the 64 bit version didn't work for some reason
[11:26] <Razoz> I I chosed Xubuntu bcuze its got XFCE @ start and wanted a speedy system. s it a big difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[11:26] <eck> Razoz: i don't think so
[11:26] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: Just as well. Lots of packages aren't compiled for 64bit.
[11:26] <OuZo_> hi, anybody know a good site that will show me how to overclock my AMD 3000+? thanks
[11:26] <eck> Razoz: maybe a little bit of RAM saved, that's it
[11:26] <Razoz> eck: : @ therie webpage the say its theri lightest
[11:27] <gyaresu> OuZo_: http://overclockers.com.au
[11:27] <OuZo_> gyaresu: thanks
[11:27] <eck> Razoz: yes, but none of the desktops are heavy on cpu time. you probably save a few tens of megabytes of memory
[11:27] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: so just to recap: you want to get your wireless card working?
[11:27] <eck> maybe 20-30 MB
[11:27] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: correct
[11:27] <alexIdoia> hi I come from Mac and I am looking for a replacement freesoftware for Bbedit on mac, all I want is a simple text editor with ASCII capabilities and most of all a integrated ftp client
[11:27] <eck> i'm not sure exactly how much
[11:27] <gyaresu> OuZo_: the forums are good.
[11:27] <nemanja-> hello..
[11:27] <nemanja-> can someone help me?
[11:27] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: but it's not recognised?
[11:28] <gyaresu> !question | nemanja-
[11:28] <ubotu> nemanja-: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:28] <jussi01> !equivalents | alexIdoia
[11:28] <ubotu> alexIdoia: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> the card is, but it can not find the network to my knowledge
[11:28] <nemanja-> --- Connected. Now logging in..
[11:28] <nemanja-> -Welcome- psyBNC2.3.2-7
[11:28] <nemanja-> --- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[11:28] <alexIdoia> jussi01: mac ?
[11:28] <nemanja-> What is the problem in this?
[11:28] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: what's the  output of 'iwconfig'
[11:28] <slippyr4> st0n3cutt3r: does the network run WPA perchance?
[11:28] <Razoz> eck:  Heh, thats needed with my 512 8)   Getting 2 gb soon <333
[11:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> I don't know
[11:28] <eck> alexIdoia: an integrated ftp client? maybe emacs
[11:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> x2
[11:28] <Razoz> eck: Good for Photoshop ;)
[11:28] <panfist> thanks to everyone that helped me earlier, because of you guys i'm online in ubuntu right now. if i could ask another question please, i tried to download/install the newest ATI graphics drivers and it's not working, they recommend to uninstall them before installing a different version, but nowhere do they explain how to uninstall. can anyone point me to a guide or explain?
[11:29] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: and 'iwlist wlan0/eth1/ra0/whatever scan'
[11:29] <eck> Razoz: i have 512 MB which is definitely more than enough to run any DE
[11:29] <jussi01> !envy | panfist
[11:29] <ubotu> panfist: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:29] <alexIdoia> eck, emacs looks very cool but I found it too difficult
[11:29] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: is that an exact command that I should enter into the terminal?
[11:29] <gyaresu> panfist: you havn't installed them before so don't worry (apt-get remove blah)
[11:29] <Sandroad> Hi.  Could anyone help me getting my WPA to work on my IBM T42 pls
[11:30] <eck> alexIdoia: i would just go with something like gedit then, it supports external plugins, and you can probably find an ftp one
[11:30] <eck> alexIdoia: jedit might also have one
[11:30] <jussi01> !wpa | Sandroad
[11:30] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: aye. 'iwconfig' will get you back the network devices.
[11:30] <ubotu> Sandroad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:30] <steel_lady> I know that I have to be patient but I ask and nobody pays attention to me for hours!
[11:30] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: then tell me if you see eth1 or wlan0 or whatever.
[11:30] <alexIdoia> eck, sounds good
[11:30] <panfist> gyaresu: i did install them? i followed this guide to the letter except at the "verifying" step my device is "mesa3d"something instead of radeon x1900
[11:30] <jussi01> steel_lady, whats your problem?
[11:30] <gyaresu> steel_lady: Try again.
[11:30] <slippyr4> sandroad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo worked very well for me.
[11:31] <panfist> gyaresu: this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:31] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: are you talking about in the network ...utility? window?
[11:31] <eck> Razoz: i think you will find that gnome uses very little memory, the things that use a lot are compiz/beryl, firefox, and some others like evince
[11:31] <weitz> hello, i tried installing ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop computer earlier and couldn't get the internet working, can anybody help me with this?
[11:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: no. you need to open up a terminal. Lets use the real tools.
[11:31] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: I can't have ubuntu open and be online on this computer at the same time, so I can restart and check something if I have specific instructions for what to do and what to report back
[11:31] <jussi01> weitz, wireless or normal ethernet?
[11:32] <eck> Razoz: if you investigate with a program like top you will see where the memory is really being used, and generally the things integrated with the desktop are pretty memory-concious
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: ethernet
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: i've got earthlink cable, and i connected directly to the cable modem, no router
[11:32] <jussi01> weitz, do you usually need a pssword in windows?
[11:32] <steel_lady> jussi01: I think I have general problem launching apps. For now I can not launch Nedit and Amule anymnore and I think it happened after I gave by accident chmod 777 to the whole home and teturned it generally to 775
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: no
[11:32] <eck> Razoz: also, if you use any gnome applications you will end up loading most of the gnome libraries anyway (same with kde apps)
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: should just work w/ DHCP
[11:32] <lesshaste> is there some tool to detect which wireless networks will actually let you log in? I was sitting in a train station the other days and there were about half a dozen non-encrypted networks available. If you tried to use any of them they took you to a page to ask you to pay
[11:33] <jussi01> weitz, system -> administration -> network
[11:33] <weitz> jussi01: i'm on my laptop on ubuntu and it's working fine, just DHCP
[11:33] <eck> weitz: you might have to reset the modem
[11:33] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: yes, sorry. first get 'lspci' then 'iwconfig' (note the wireless device name wlan0 or whatever) then 'iwlist wlan0/whatever scan'. See you soon.
[11:33] <eck> weitz: a lot of cable modems don't really do dhcp properly, so resetting them will get it working again
[11:34] <weitz> eck: but i'm online right now, same modem, same ubuntu, just a laptop not desktop
[11:34] <st0n3cutt3r_> is it really supposed to be /whatever scan   ?
[11:34] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: dude...
[11:34] <eck> weitz: ah... try doing dhcp manually with dhclient and see what it gives you
[11:34] <jussi01> steel_lady, Im not too sure on that problem, Im sorry
[11:34] <eck> e.g. dhclient eth0
[11:34] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_:  (note the wireless device name wlan0 or whatever)
[11:34] <eck> (as root of course)
[11:34] <Razoz> eck: okay, thx
[11:35] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: ok, I was just checking (because you said it exactly the same way 3 times)
[11:35] <steel_lady> jussi01, whom can I ask then?
[11:35] <weitz> eck: i have two ethernet interfaces on the desktop, could that cause a problem?
[11:35] <st0n3cutt3r_> thx, brb
[11:35] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: Sorry. Getting sleepy. Good luck. I'll be here.
[11:35] <weitz> eck: ubuntu seems to detect them both, and the hardware appears to work for both
[11:36] <Kuba> hey if my compiling kernel failed how can i remove everything(files etc)what i did?
[11:36] <eck> weitz: i am not really sure, i only have one ethernet interface on my laptop so i have never found out how ubuntu does in that arena
[11:36] <gyaresu> steel_lady: If you've 'chmod 755 -R /home/blah' then that's somewhat mess.
[11:36] <gyaresu> *messy
[11:36] <jussi01> steel_lady, try #ubuntuforums they may not be able to help you, but then again the may. Just remember that is not an official support channel, so they dont *have* to help
[11:36] <Kuba> to start compile again?
[11:36] <eck> i would be sort of surprised if that was the issue though
[11:36] <soundray> Kuba: 'make mrproper'
[11:36] <kenthomson> Hello!
[11:36] <gyaresu> Kuba: if you installed it properly then you can 'apt-get remove' it.
[11:37] <eck> steel_lady: ouch, that is a very bad thing to do
[11:37] <Kuba> in the directory with new kernel?
[11:37] <weitz> eck: alright, i'll have to log off my laptop test the dhclient command, no router
[11:37] <kenthomson> When is feisty launching?
[11:37] <eck> steel_lady: a lot of things should _not_ be world readable, e.g. ssh keys
[11:37] <eilker> i wanna take a video of my 3d desktop. but i dont want its size big, which format to save avi or mpeg ?
[11:37] <gyaresu> Kuba: preface your comments with a nick please.
[11:37] <soundray> Kuba: where you ran the compile
[11:37] <eck> weitz: ok
[11:37] <soundray> commands
[11:37] <khaije> ghatak: i would reccomend (1)using the repo'd nvidia blobs instead of any other ones for simplicity and ease , also (2) purge and reinstall the xserver-xorg-core package , and (3) dist-upgrade if you haven't done that lately
[11:38] <Kuba> /usr/src/linux-2.6.18.6
[11:38] <weitz> eck: ok, bbiab
[11:38] <kenthomson> !feisty
[11:38] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <alexIdoia> eck: that is strange no ftp capabilities for gedit, this is so strange I thought this was quite an essential feature, how do you guys do to edit html files to/from an external server ?
[11:38] <Kuba> gyaresu:/usr/src/linux-2.6.18.6 right?
[11:38] <eck> steel_lady: actually, some software will not even work if the configuration files do not have proper permissions
[11:39] <gyaresu> Kuba: what about it?
[11:39] <ghatak> khaije: right, trying that now
[11:39] <kenthomson> I am reading the beryl_wiki page and it has a section on "Show Desktop" plugin, but i can't find it in beryl-settings-manager; Can someone help me locate the Show-Desktop plugin
[11:39] <Kuba> gyaresu:there i have to type apt-get remove?
[11:39] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why on earth are you recompiling the kernel anyway?
[11:39] <agliv> Greetings all :) having problems dual booting WinDOOF + ubuntu.... wanted to use the same /boot partitition for booth, but ubuntu wrote over the windows entries and now I can only start Ubuntu...
[11:39] <kenthomson> gyaresu, Is he not on ISS?
[11:40] <eck> alexIdoia: i think you can open up an ftp session in nautilus and then edit those files with gedit. i personally just edit files locally or over an ssh session (using vim)
[11:40] <Flosoft> hey
[11:40] <gyaresu> kenthomson: the international space station?
[11:40] <khaije> ghatak: sorry my comp is slow and a little overloaded atm
[11:40] <Flosoft> I updated from edgy to feisty this night
[11:40] <steel_lady> jussi01, eck: first I did chmod 777 by accident then I returned to 755 but I don't believe that anybody can help me in general since we can not go file by file. but I did it in home! why is it affecting programs?
[11:40] <Flosoft> but the update failed during the night
[11:40] <sciboy> Hey guys, what download manager would you recommend?
[11:40] <Flosoft> now I can't boot anymore :S
[11:40] <kenthomson> gyaresu, righto! International Space Station ;-)
[11:40] <Kuba> gyaresu:i'd like to try compile kernel again.do i have to remove everything from last compiling?
[11:40] <gyaresu> Kuba: Please pastebin the output of 'dpkg --get-selections |grep image'
[11:41] <alexIdoia> eck: yes that is what I do right no, but vim can't do a lot of things
[11:41] <kenthomson> Flosoft, i was thinking about doing the same things but with different results, how was the experience?
[11:41] <eck> alexIdoia: like?
[11:41] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why on earth are you recompiling the kernel anyway?
[11:41] <eck> it can edit files remotely
[11:41] <gyaresu> Kuba: please read the messages.
[11:41] <kenthomson> gyaresu, are you sure he is not on ISS?
[11:41] <Flosoft> well .. when I boot into rescue mode I get this:
[11:41] <Flosoft> Cannot open root device "UUID=*something*" or unknown-block(0,0)
[11:41] <kenthomson> gyaresu, if he is not reading any of the messages than how do you expect him to read that one?
[11:41] <Flosoft> Please append a correct root= boot option
[11:42] <Flosoft> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:42] <gyaresu> kenthomson: eyeballs bug.
[11:42] <alexIdoia> eck: :) say that I am not sure how to do them, for ex how to encode a file with the proper charset
[11:42] <Flosoft> I really don't know what to do
[11:42] <kenthomson> Flosoft, a forum search might help you get results faster
[11:42] <Flosoft> didn't find anything :S
[11:42] <kenthomson> I am reading the beryl_wiki page and it has a section on "Show Desktop" plugin, but i can't find it in beryl-settings-manager; Can someone help me locate the Show-Desktop plugin
[11:42] <eck> alexIdoia: in vim try ":he charset"
[11:42] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about yourself
[11:43] <kenthomson> Flosoft, try making a detailed post, and great people at the forums will help you
[11:43] <kenthomson> gyaresu, does he understand natural language?
[11:43] <kenthomson> ubotu, what is your name?
[11:43] <gugu^> Please Help, I have instaled Hp laser Jet 1018, and his not printing, i folow instructions form here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220766&highlight=1020
[11:43] <Flosoft> isn't there any quick fix?
[11:43] <eck> alexIdoia: have you tried jedit? I am a sysadmin, so I am a really heavy vim user, but a lot of the programmers at work use that
[11:43] <gyaresu> Kuba: hello?
[11:44] <the_stig> hey im tryin to upgrade to breezy how do i change the repositories
[11:44] <eck> vim and emacs are good editors, but you definitely have to invest a _lot_ of time to use them efficiently
[11:44] <eshaase> i disabled the login manager and when i do a 'startx' i get an error about the gnome settings daemon and something about dbus, any idea whats going on?
[11:44] <alexIdoia> eck: ok I'll try
[11:44] <Kuba> gyaresu:sorry but i don't understand your question-i don't speak english very well
[11:44] <soundray> the_stig: are you on warty?
[11:44] <eck> e.g. for vim i'd say you probably have to know at least 40 or so commands before it really becomes worthwhile to use it
[11:44] <alexIdoia> eck: anyway, I like vim , is there a list of command somewhere so I can learn ?
[11:45] <finalbeta> Flosoft: You will have to boot with a live CD and edit your fstab so it will mount the correct partition. You can replace the UUID with the old style /dev/hd** if you want.
[11:45] <eck> alexIdoia: the built in help is the best documentation
[11:45] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why do you want to recompile you kernel?
[11:45] <eck> alexIdoia: i think it also provides the best tutorial
[11:45] <weitz> eck: back, i tried manually running dhclient, should i paste the output?
[11:45] <Kuba> you mean compile again?
[11:45] <kenthomson> gyaresu, "earth", missing?
[11:45] <eck> weitz: pastebin it
[11:45] <Flosoft> finalbeta: but the partitions should be ok?
[11:45] <weitz> eck: ok
[11:45] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why do you want to recompile you kernel? At all. For what reason? What is the purpose?
[11:46] <alexIdoia> eck:  and what do you think of gvim ?
[11:46] <eck> alexIdoia: you can search for something by trying ":he foo" and then hitting ctrl-d
[11:46] <eck> alexIdoia: gvim is nice, i use it when i edit files locally
[11:46] <Kuba> gyaresu:to make my system safer etc...
[11:46] <soundray> Kuba: run 'make mrproper' in the directory where you ran the compile commands originally. Then you can start over.
[11:46] <gyaresu> Kuba: No.
[11:46] <ardchoille> the_stig: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (CLI) or gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list (GUI)
[11:46] <the_stig> soundray: im on hedgehog or somethin.. crazy names :\.. neway i'm just using the apt-get method seems like its working
[11:46] <soundray> Kuba: your system won't be safer from compiling a kernel
[11:46] <alexIdoia> eck: has gvim the same command than vim ?
[11:46] <barata> hallo all, how can we make kde, gnome & xfce integrate seamlessly in Ubuntu
[11:47] <the_stig> there is no way i can do it straight to 6.10 ay?
[11:47] <alexIdoia> so if I learn vim I would also know gvim ?
[11:47] <finalbeta> Flosoft: it's pointing to the wrong partition, or the partition is corrupted. You can check the partitons from the live cd
[11:47] <barata> you know ... if you use gnome based, then gimp or thunderbird for instance will look funny & ugly in KDE
[11:47] <soundray> the_stig: I think it's a bad idea to upgrade from hoary hedgehog to breezy badger. I recommend you do a fresh install of edgy eft.
[11:47] <finalbeta> it's unlikely it's destroyed.
[11:47] <barata> and vice versa
[11:47] <eck> alexIdoia: gvim is just a pretty gui that allows you to have menus and better themes. the tabbing support is also a little more inuitive
[11:47] <weitz> eck: ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8527/
[11:47] <eck> but the commands are the same
[11:48] <alexIdoia> eck: ok cool
[11:48] <alexIdoia> eck: thanks
[11:48] <Kuba> gyaresu? isifference beetween apt-get remove and 'make mrproper?
[11:48] <the_stig> ive got an iso of edgy eft. but no blank cds.. neway i can run it without burning it??
[11:48] <eck> weitz: it looks like it isn't seeing any responses to its dhcp broadcasts
[11:48] <ardchoille> eck: How would one get gvim to work in tty1 if they had a problem with X?
[11:48] <eck> ardchoille: you would just use regular vim
[11:48] <ardchoille> ;)
[11:49] <soundray> the_stig: there is a way to install without a CD, but it's a little more involved. Read the pm from ubotu:
[11:49] <weitz> eck: so what do you think is the problem?
[11:49] <soundray> !install > the_stif
[11:49] <soundray> !install > the_stig
[11:49] <soundray> sorry
[11:49] <gyaresu> Kuba: Can you show me a link to the guide you were following please?
[11:49] <the_stig> :) thnx
[11:49] <finalbeta> Flosoft: using fschk.ext3
[11:49] <ardchoille> eck: So, it's probably a good idea to get used to regular vim now?
[11:49] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: should I e-mail the results or what do you want with/from them?
[11:49] <soundray> the_stig: topgear, eh?
[11:49] <jpjacobs> ardchoille, there is a vim tutorial in the vim package if i'm not mistaken. that'll get you going
[11:50] <gyaresu> !pastebin | st0n3cutt3r
[11:50] <ubotu> st0n3cutt3r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <eck> ardchoille: I always use it if i am working at the console, in X or not; i mostly use gvim for extended editing sessions
[11:50] <jpjacobs> ardchoille, vimtutr it is
[11:50] <Kuba> gyaresu:http://czlug.icis.pcz.pl/materialy/kernel/howto/
[11:50] <jpjacobs> vimtutor*
[11:50] <sciboy> Can anyone recommend a download manager?
[11:50] <eck> weitz: try resetting the modem, and make sure you are using the right interface
[11:50] <ardchoille> jpjacobs: I'm good with vim, I was just trying to see if eck would see the benefit to using regular vim now.
[11:50] <soundray> sciboy: wget
[11:50] <gyaresu> !offtopic | eck: ardchoille
[11:50] <ubotu> eck: ardchoille: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:50] <gyaresu> sciboy: GUI or CLI?
[11:51] <sciboy> GUI
[11:51] <sciboy> Please. =)
[11:51] <dgx> Hi :)
[11:51] <weitz> eck: yeah, the interface is right according to ifconfig output, besides they're both active and enabled, and i already reset the modem before that test
[11:51] <ardchoille> gyaresu: Thanks for that
[11:51] <Kuba> gyaresu:i typed mrproper
[11:51] <gyaresu> sciboy: Then no :) but axel is awesome and could be setup to be used by some programmes.
[11:51] <agliv> can anybody please help me fix my booting routiene so that windows is recognized?
[11:52] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8533/
[11:52] <eck> weitz: you should just get a router :-). you can also do static ip if you have to
[11:52] <ardchoille> gyaresu: Please don't be so quick on the ot trigger :)
[11:52] <eck> weitz: i suspect that if you look at the interface with wireshark or tcpdump you will see that there are no dhcp responses
[11:52] <weitz> eck: but this is quite bizarre, it's working fine on my laptop
[11:53] <gugu^> Please Help, I have instaled Hp laser Jet 1018, and his not printing, i folow instructions form here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220766&highlight=1020
[11:53] <kidbuntu> !nvidia
[11:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <finalbeta> !paste
[11:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:53] <eck> weitz: there isn't a web interface for the modem, is there?
[11:54] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: so you have two wireless devices. wlan0 doesn't find any networks.
[11:54] <eck> if there is you might check if it keeps any logs
[11:54] <kenthomson>  Is there any place on the net/opther package that i can install to get even more beryl-plugins?
[11:54] <weitz> eck: no
[11:54] <finalbeta> aglet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8538/ << that is what needs to be placed inside you /boot/grub/menu.lst , but you still need to specify the correct location.
[11:54] <ardchoille> kenthomson: You might ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: both of those devices appear for my 1 wireless adapter o_O
[11:55] <finalbeta> agliv:  : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8538/ << that is what needs to be placed inside you /boot/grub/menu.lst , but you still need to specify the correct location.
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> I have another adapter that I could have tested, but I didn't think to plug it in (I would have to find it first)
[11:55] <weitz> eck: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-10718.html, this appears to be similar to my issue
[11:55] <ikonia> kenthomson: beryl questions are better in #ubuntu-effect - there is more experienece there
[11:55] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Right. Is it a card that you had unplugged when you ran lspci?
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> no
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: is it internal?
[11:56] <weitz> eck: except that guy resolved it by resetting his modem, and has DSL
[11:56] <st0n3cutt3r> no
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: is it external?
[11:56] <kenthomson> ikonia, hi!
[11:56] <st0n3cutt3r> yes
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Are we having fun yet?
[11:56] <kenthomson> ardchoille, ikonia i will go there, but i find it sleepy/less-responsive
[11:57] <ikonia> its the most expereinced place for beryl+ubuntu
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: lol
[11:57] <eck> weitz: i strongly suspect it is a problem on the modem's end, if you really want to make sure you would have to run a packet sniffing program
[11:57] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: This is the bit where maybe you provide me with a link to the model page or somesuch...
[11:57] <eck> weitz: dhclient would show some messages if there was anything that even looked like a reply
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> yeah
[11:57] <weitz> eck: alright, any ideas how to resolve this?
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> I was just looking
[11:58] <kenthomson> ubotu, foo is bar
[11:58] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >kenthomson
[11:58] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211#
[11:58] <nerdcore> hs anyone tried a live persistant install?
[11:59] <eck> weitz: sorry, i don't have any more ideas
[11:59] <nerdcore> I'm having issues with the persistant part...
[11:59] <ikonia> nerdcore: whats a live persistant install ?
[11:59] <weitz> eck: alright, thanks anyway, i guess i'll have to see if i can figure something out
[11:59] <nerdcore> ikonia: booting from CD or USB with a saved home
[12:00] <ikonia> ahhh I see
[12:00] <nerdcore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?action=show&redirect=LiveUsbStick
[12:00] <ikonia> I've personally never appriciated that approach
[12:00] <nerdcore> it's pretty slick..
[12:00] <nerdcore> only good for when you work in an office and get shuffled around
[12:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I don't have to beat you to death with google do I? You have seen the plethora http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=F5D7050+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[12:00] <nerdcore> multiple machines multiple headache
[12:01] <ikonia> I appriciate the need, I just find it too rare a solution
[12:01] <lesshaste> is it possible to make grub come up with a blank screen which only shows the options if you press some key?
[12:01] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: "Disclaimer. I accept no responsibility for anything that goes wrong using this howto. If it breaks your system, I guess you get to keep both halves. If it makes your system urinate on the dog, I guess you get to give the dog a bath"
[12:01] <kenthomson> HELP; i have installed beagled, and it sits in the background using very-high number of CPU cycles, and it paralyzes my PC. can i make it run gentler? I even tried "beagle-shutdwon" but it rudely re-started and again bloated my system. I can't have a fully indexed, but bloated system, please help me make beagle behave a little more politely
[12:02] <gyaresu> kenthomson you need to re-'nice' the process.
[12:02] <finalbeta> kenthomson: it should be using 100% cpu, using 80 would be a waste. But you can renice it if it's priority is to high. yet it shouldn't be.
[12:02] <eck> kenthomson: i have seen it do this before on some malformed files, i don't think there is a fix; top will lower the cpu priority, but ti will still waste cpu time
[12:02] <alexIdoia> eck: in vim to have the color syntax, the command is something link :sync on but I forget it exactly
[12:02] <gyaresu> kenthomson: 'top' then hit the 'r' key to renice it.
[12:03] <eck> kenthomson: using tracker as a replacement is an option (although it is not as tightly integrated atm)
[12:03] <finalbeta> But I would say, don't use beagle compiz and beryl, it's bad for you.
[12:03] <wladik> hi all! when is ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn out?
[12:03] <finalbeta> In 2007 month  04
[12:03] <ardchoille> wladik: April 19th, supposedly
[12:03] <finalbeta> that's why It's called 7.04
[12:03] <Seveas> !feisty| wladik
[12:03] <gyaresu> kenthomson: 19 is a decent value.
[12:03] <ubotu> wladik: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <wladik> will be on cds shipit?
[12:04] <eck> alexIdoia: you need to :set syntax (and in the future, #vim is a more appropriate channel for vim questions)
[12:04] <gyaresu> wladik: no shipit is only 6.06
[12:04] <ardchoille> wladik: Not sure ShipIt will do that, since Dapper will still be supported.
[12:04] <EADG> Evening all.
[12:04] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about greetings
[12:04] <finalbeta> wladik: they seems to ship only long term supported releases, the release 7.10 will probably be one of those.
[12:04] <wladik> i used dapper alot -ist a stable and reliable :-) hope feisty will be too
[12:05] <ardchoille> wladik: Indeed, Dapper is quite nice.
[12:05] <kenthomson> gyaresu, how do i make it work at 19, or whatever that is?
[12:05] <gyaresu> kenthomson: did you run 'top'?
[12:05] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: most instructions I find, so far as I can tell, expect that I have access to the internet with ubuntu otherwise
[12:05] <st0n3cutt3r> 1. First, go into Synaptic Package Manager, and search for "ndiswrapper-utils"
[12:06] <CBunny> Hi! is it possible to install ubuntu using the serial port?
[12:06] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: 'apt-cache showpkg whatever' then see the exact version it would want to install. Get it and then 'sudo dpkg -i whatever'
[12:06] <lesshaste> where is the grub config file? Strangely I can't find it
[12:07] <eck> kenthomson: just to let you know, renicing it will not prevent it from keeping your cpu on and making the fans loud; you should check what files it is getting stuck on, i had problems in the past where i would download video files (on bittorrent) and beagle would try to parse the metadata associated with them and hog the cpu because they were malformed
[12:07] <soundray> CBunny: it may be possible, but I doubt that someone has documented the process
[12:07] <eck> kenthomson: you can do that with lsof
[12:07] <CBunny> soundray, why's that?
[12:07] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: plus its dependencies. If you just run 'sudo apt-cache depends whatever' then that'll tell you.
[12:07] <ardchoille> lesshaste: Do you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:08] <lesshaste> ardchoille: oh !
[12:08] <eck> e.g. lsof | grep beagle
[12:08] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: whatever being wlan0 or wmaster0 again?
[12:08] <soundray> CBunny: serial ports are becoming rare in desktops. Embedded machines tend to use other distributions than ubuntu.
[12:08] <finalbeta> CBunny: because it's not something you want to be doing, check google for "install debian serial cable"
[12:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: no this is to install extra packages that you will need to get the wireless device happy.
[12:09] <finalbeta> debian will likely turn up more results and is similar.
[12:09] <st0n3cutt3r> ok, so what do I fill whatever with?
[12:09] <CBunny> finalbeta, what's wrong with it? i install most my servers using the serial port
[12:09] <lesshaste> ardchoille: thx :)
[12:09] <finalbeta> CBunny: got a guide? :)
[12:09] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: It's been detected but it isn't working. You might want to find a post with that exact problem/solution.
[12:10] <nerdcore> has anyone in here trued a persistant live USB install before, I'm halfway through and I'm getting stuck. (I'm booting live off USB, but persistance doesn't want to work.)
[12:10] <ardchoille> lesshaste: You're welcome :)
[12:10] <nerdcore> I'm getting a pretty clear error though when starting X
[12:10] <Ferret> Surely the serial console instructions are trivially the same as the X-less instructions, asssuming the install CD puts the required one line in menu.lst and one line in inittab?
[12:11] <deadeyes> hi all, I have a problem with snmpd... whenever I start it with the init.d script, it only listens to the loopback interface so I can only connect locally. I looked with ps aux and I saw an argument that tells smpd to only listen to loopback. I looked in the manual how I can change this... I found udp:161 but I cant seem to find where to change this so always as snmpd starts, that it listens to all interfaces:s
[12:11] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: alright, I'll look
[12:11] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Geeze it's messy. I'm not sure you want to do it without having net.
[12:11] <kenthomson> eck, gyaresu i am a bit more of a novice than you assume, i understand completely simple commands, or a GUI, nothing more than that. My problem: beagle makes my computer unusable, please rephrase your solution in a way i can implement it. And another question, is beagle worth the CPU-time, or i am better of with "locate foo"?
[12:12] <nerdcore> all I get is unable to lock ICE authority file: /home/ubuntu/.ICEauthority
[12:12] <ikonia> if beagle is killing your machine - its not worth it
[12:12] <eck> kenthomson: i think the problem that you are having isn't really possible to fix, beagle has a number of problems ineherent to it
[12:12] <eck> kenthomson: i would just use locate, or maybe tracker
[12:12] <kenthomson> eck, thank you that helps!
[12:12] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: did you find instructions?
[12:12] <kenthomson> eck, and you mean to say there is no way i can make it behave nicer, with one-two commands for all-time?
[12:13] <ikonia> depends on the problem
[12:13] <Seveas> ikonia, beagle is never worth it. Dog-slow
[12:13] <gyaresu> kenthomson: I am cli monkey so bash tools are win imho. However if you open another terminal and run 'top' you will then be able to hit the 'r' key and it will ask you what PID you want to renice. Just enter the Process ID of Beagle and then enter '19' as the 'renice' value.
[12:13] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I can load a page on my mac (which I am talking to you from right now) and just leave it up while my pc reboots into windows and use the instructions from here
[12:13] <eilker> can recordmydesktop save in avi format too or just ogg format ?
[12:13] <ikonia> Seveas: I've had it running "acceptable"
[12:13] <eck> kenthomson: you can have the kernel schedule it with lower priority, so that it doesn't slow down other appications
[12:13] <Xif> Hi. I'm trying to install a Lexmark E240 on Edgy. Any help?
[12:13] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: st0n3cutt3r http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=449166
[12:13] <eck> but this is _not_ the same as making it not use as much cpu
[12:13] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: messy.
[12:14] <Seveas> ikonia, killer hardware I assume :)
[12:14] <eck> in particular, it will keep the cpu on, the cpu will not be able to idle, and you will be using more power and the fans will get loud
[12:14] <Xif> Google said I might want to install it via the "generic PCL6" driver. anyone knows how I can do that?
[12:14] <ikonia> Seveas: yes, it has a fair bit of grunt
[12:14] <ikonia> and I agree its rarly worth it unless you have a real need for it
[12:15] <Xif> i.e. where do I find the PCL6 on the Add New Printer wizard driver menu?
[12:15] <gyaresu> Seveas: Yay! Sorry to bother but would you be so kind as to add a factoid for nick prefacing please. It's something I end up typing a lot. !preface or somesuch?
[12:15] <eck> kenthomson: if you think that the amount of time that beagle is spending using the cpu is unreasonable (and i think that it is) dn't use it
[12:15] <ikonia> eck: and there lies the real advice
[12:15] <Seveas> !prfefix
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prfefix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Seveas> !prefix
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prefix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <finalbeta> I don't see why beagle would have to be noticeably slow, it's doing it thing in the background. Taking up to many resources true, but when you search it's lightening fast.
[12:15] <kenthomson> eck, right
[12:15] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I think I can do this, but I would like you to talk me through a few parts before I start, if you don't mind
[12:15] <Alarm> hello
[12:15] <Alarm> is there any danger writing from windows to linux partition while linux kernel is not running ? i searched for some articles but couldnt find something about it
[12:16] <ardchoille> kenthomson: I used beagle for a bit, found it to be too much, so I found the deskbar applet to be much better for me. You might try the deskbar applet and see if that works for you.
[12:16] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Fire away.
[12:16] <kenthomson> Alarm, i do it all the time
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: how can you do that if the kernel is nor runnign ?
[12:16] <kenthomson> ardchoille, i find it too much taxing
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: do you mean from windows ?
[12:16] <Alarm> copy with ext2fs for example
[12:16] <agliv> finalbeta: Thanks for the info... that helps... now I can list my partitions with fdsk -l ?
[12:16] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: you will have to adjust your /usr/src/ to your kernel so, change to yours accordingly
[12:16] <Seveas> !prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:16] <lesshaste> I am using hiddenmenu in grub but I would really like the screen to be completely blank instead of showing the minimal grub message... is this possible?
[12:16] <st0n3cutt3r> ""
[12:16] <Seveas> %login
[12:16] <kenthomson> ardchoille, i might be better of with the deskbar applet, but what does it use to do a 'search'
[12:16] <Seveas> !prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:16] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[12:16] <Alarm> windows->linux
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: the danger is the ext2 driver for windows can cause issues, so its up to you if you chose to risk it
[12:16] <Alarm> on another partition
[12:16] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:16] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: typo "person"
[12:17] <ikonia> kenthomson: he's just done that - the answer isn't going to change
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: typo "greater"
[12:17] <ardchoille> kenthomson: I believe it uses gnome-search-tool
[12:17] <kenthomson> Seveas, it should be pErson prson
[12:17] <Seveas> gyaresu, my e is dodgy
[12:17] <Seveas> thanks
[12:17] <nerdcore> alarm .. I missed something but are you trying to read an ext2 drive from win?
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: get a better dealer.
[12:17] <Seveas> !no prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking too, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[12:17] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:17] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking too, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <Seveas> gyaresu, no, I hammer on the keyboard too much
[12:18] <Seveas> kenthomson, would you mind not being so annoying?
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> hey
[12:18] <Alarm> i see. so there shouldnt be a problem writing on linux partition and booting then to linux . (problems with fsck for example)
[12:18] <kenthomson> Seveas, it is NOT talking "too" but "talking to", a single "o"
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> can anyone help me with setting up dual monitors?
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: if you are interested in a beagle-like tool, look at http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/
[12:18] <gyaresu> Seveas: Old IBM clicky clack for you then. (Thanks muchly for the factoid).
[12:18] <finalbeta> agliv: sudo fdisk -l
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: it is in universe i think
[12:18] <kenthomson> eck, is it effecient, any first hand expreince?
[12:18] <Seveas> gyaresu, I'm on a laptop :)
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: my experiences with it have been very positive
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> anyone know anything about dual monitors?
[12:19] <kenthomson> Seveas, it is NOT "talking too" but "talking to", a single "o"
[12:19] <Ferret> They come in pairs
[12:19] <kenthomson> !twinview bodyboarding_bum
[12:19] <ikonia> bodyboarding_bum: whats the problem
[12:19] <Alarm> nerdcore,  i am asking the risks of writing to a linux partition from windows
[12:19] <kenthomson> !twinview | bodyboarding_bum
[12:19] <ubotu> bodyboarding_bum: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:19] <bodyboarding_bum> i cant get my dual monitors working
[12:19] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:19] <ikonia> bodyboarding_bum: what technique are you using and what graphics card
[12:19] <nerdcore> I would suggest checking out explore2fsPE (or with out PE) for the task at least..
[12:20] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: sry, i didn't make that a real question; what does "you will have to adjust your /usr/src/ to your kernel so, change to yours accordingly" mean?
[12:20] <holle> hi
[12:20] <bodyboarding_bum> im using an ATI X300, and ive tried all the techniques i can find for ati cards, none worked
[12:20] <kenthomson> Alarm, you need a EXT3 driver (fs-driver.org), and it works like a charm, but all your linux partition config files are openly visible in windows so anyone can change them without knowing the root password, if that is what you consider a security risk
[12:20] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: How you going with the reading? The build-essential package has all the fun toys you need to compile things yourself. /usr/src is where the linux headers or kernel source live.
[12:20] <Alarm> okie :) thank you a lot
[12:20] <kenthomson> gyaresu, is linux_headers = kernell source? what is linux-headers.
[12:20] <A[D] minS> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:20] <A[D] minS> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include
[12:20] <A[D] minS> am trying to install vmware so what i should do now?
[12:21] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you just said
[12:21] <ikonia> kenthomson: just be aware that driver is not always stable, it can corrupt your partitions, so be careful when using it (there is a waring on the website saying use at your own risk)
[12:21] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:21] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:21] <agliv> finalbeta: hda 5 is winxp so what gose in the ( , )?
[12:21] <holle> is this the right channel to ask questions, problems about booting feisty fawn?
[12:21] <green> is there a dvd-rw eraseing program for ubuntu?
[12:21] <andrews> I edited my xorg.conf to include a higher rez (that i know this monitor can do) and I changed my resolution on my computer and now im getting wierd lines down the screen - any ideas on how to fix?
[12:21] <st0n3cutt3r> do I need to change /usr/src to something else?  (like /brian/src - brian being my user name)
[12:21] <kenthomson> ikonia, What does ubuntu say in its license? "ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.." Just press ctrl-alt-f1 and see what ubuntu says to you in the face!
[12:22] <CBunny> green, cdrecord
[12:22] <finalbeta> agliv: (0 , 4)
[12:22] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:22] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:22] <biotrox> how do i connect to my workplace using vpn?
[12:22] <green> ok ty
[12:22] <agliv> ikonia: you're not the same ikonia that has been helping me out these past days, are you?
[12:22] <green> i'll try that
[12:22] <finalbeta> agliv: sry! it's (hd0,4)
[12:22] <ikonia> kenthomson: yes I know, I'm not talking about ubuntu - I'm talking about the windows file system driver for ext2
[12:22] <kenthomson> agliv, theres only one
[12:22] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You will need the linux-headers-'uname -a' package to compile a new kernel module.
[12:22] <kenthomson> ikonia, ok
[12:22] <ikonia> kenthomson: just didn't want you to ruin your ext2 file systems
[12:22] <ikonia> or think that driver was %100 stable
[12:22] <ikonia> agliv: hello there
[12:23] <phatrabbit> Hi i have a problem with Ubuntu 6.10. When i boot up ubuntu it shows the ubuntu loading screen and then my monitor goes to standby
[12:23] <alexIdoia> eck still there ?
[12:23] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:23] <phatrabbit> it was working fine before
[12:23] <andrews> I edited my xorg.conf to include a higher rez (that i know this monitor can do) and I changed my resolution on my computer and now im getting wierd lines down the screen - any ideas on how to fix?
[12:23] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I understand what you are saying, but your instructions are slightly too short (lacking a how or where or when) for me to be able to use them
[12:23] <alexIdoia> I have open a file via nautilus in ssh, I have the permission to write in it but when using gvim, it does not allow me to write in it
[12:23] <agliv> kenthomson sometimes ikonia sometimes ikonia_ and sometimes both at the same time....
[12:23] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I'm still reading a couple of pages...
[12:23] <alexIdoia> anyidea ?
[12:23] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[12:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:24] <ikonia> agliv: thats when I'm on a clients site and leave my normal nick logged in at home
[12:24] <agliv> ikonia:  we never did finish our conversation
[12:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I'm just trying to get my head around how you should do this :)
[12:24] <ikonia> no, I had to go to a meeting
[12:24] <kidbuntu> How do you format a USB Flash Disk in Edgy?
[12:24] <agliv> finalbeta: will try... looks right anyhow ;)
[12:24] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone know if this is available anywhere?
[12:24] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: is someone helping you?
[12:25] <foxiness> is there an update how-to to install ror?
[12:25] <ikonia> whats ror ?
[12:25] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: nope i tried restarting xorg but i get this drum noise and my monitor tuirns off
[12:25] <green> ive got k3b installed and it wont erase dvd-rw's?
[12:25] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: ubuntu used to work correctly for you, or did you just install it?
[12:26] <agliv> ikonia: got some spare time on your hands? or ICQ?
[12:26] <bodyboarding_bum> sorry, froze
[12:26] <phatrabbit> i installed it and it was working fine
[12:26] <ikonia> agliv: I can answer quick questions, but I'm doing a few things at the moment
[12:26] <st0n3cutt3r> and now it is not
[12:26] <agliv> green: have you configured k3b properly?
[12:26] <st0n3cutt3r> did you change anything?
[12:26] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[12:26] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: no i have not changed anything its a fresh install and i got all the updates
[12:26] <green> i believe so it writes fine
[12:26] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: what is the command to reconfigure my xorg
[12:26] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone know if this is available anywhere?
[12:27] <ardchoille> phatrabbit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <bodyboarding_bum> green: anyone help with ATI dual monitors?
[12:27] <soundray> !repeat | Otto-Mate
[12:27] <ubotu> Otto-Mate: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:27] <phatrabbit> ardchoille: thanks
[12:27] <agliv> finalbeta: just one last question.... how do I configure grub to automatacly show me the list and wait as apposed for me to having to prevent grub to default?
[12:27] <green> i dont have a ati card
[12:28] <agliv> ikonia: do you have icq?
[12:28] <Otto-Mate> ubotu - ok, thanks
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ikonia> agliv: no, I don't use it
[12:28] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I'm sorry I'm such a noob with ubuntu; what is ndiswrapper?
[12:28] <agliv> ikonia: you probably don't want to give me your email here....
[12:28] <A[D] minS> !kernel-source
[12:28] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[12:28] <st0n3cutt3r> used to install windows drivers, right?
[12:29] <agliv> ikonia: don't like icq or never used it?
[12:29] <ikonia> not used it for ages, I'm sure I have an account somewhere
[12:29] <green> let me see how this is configed
[12:30] <agliv> ikonia: there is also a web-java based implement for people who don't want to install... works, more or less...
[12:30] <alexIdoia> hey I have open a remote dir via ssh in nautilus, but I can't update file, why since all permission are clear
[12:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: ndiswrapper is indeed a 'wrapper' around binary windows drivers.
[12:31] <biotrox> !vpnclient
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vpnclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You have the driver disk for that usb device?
[12:31] <sergo> !vpnn
[12:31] <st0n3cutt3r> yes
[12:31] <lesshaste> how do find the version of an installed package?
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vpnn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <sergo> !vpn
[12:31] <bodyboarding_bum> does anyone in here use an ATI card?
[12:31] <agliv> Say, could anyone inform me how to change Grub so that I don't to preess a key to get the list, it's automatically shown and then waits?
[12:32] <Toma-> sergo: try /msg ubotu help
[12:32] <gyaresu> lesshaste: 'apt-cache showpkg thingy'
[12:32] <green> on tools for k3b all ive got is cd-rw?
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: sorry you don't want grub to display the menu
[12:32] <green>  how do i get dvd-rw erase?
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: not quite sure what your asking
[12:32] <agliv> ikonia: why not
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: because I'm not clear what your asking
[12:33] <lesshaste> gyaresu: ok thanks.. looks like grub is at version 0.97
[12:33] <agliv> ikonia Step by step
[12:33] <ikonia> agliv: how do you want grub ot behave
[12:33] <gyaresu> agliv: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst read the manual 'man grub'
[12:33] <ikonia> to behave that should read
[12:33] <gyaresu> ikonia: boot order...
[12:33] <bodyboarding_bum> anyone use ATI?
[12:33] <ikonia> gyaresu: he wants to change the boot order ?
[12:34] <agliv> ikonia:  the way it is now: I boot and grub says press a key within x seconds to list... If not -> default
[12:34] <ikonia> agliv: yup - thats fine
[12:34] <soundray> bodyboarding_bum: is this a survey?
[12:34] <ikonia> agliv: so what do you want it to do
[12:35] <phatrabbit> ok reconfiguring xserver seemed to fix ti
[12:35] <agliv> Ikonia: what I want is for me not to have to press a key within x sec, but for gub to ALWAYS show the list and wait for selection
[12:35] <ikonia> agliv: edit the menu.lst and remove the timeout to 0 and make sure the default option is the one you want it to boot
[12:35] <gyaresu> agliv: ikonia You just need to change the file I pointed to ^^ or install the latest kernel. That will do it for you. 'man grub'
[12:36] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: yes, I do have the driver CD
[12:36] <lesshaste> I am using hiddenmenu in grub but I would really like the screen to be completely blank instead of showing the minimal grub message... the idea is that it would boot to the default after 5 seconds, say, unless you press Esc..is this possible?
[12:37] <agliv> by setting timeout to 0 will it autoshow or wait for a key to be pressed
[12:37] <agliv> ?
[12:38] <Valandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:38] <agliv> ikonia: gyaresu I guess it really doesn't make a difference... as long as I can boot either windows or ubuntu correctly....
[12:39] <soundray> agliv: I think it will boot into the default entry if you set timeout 0. To get the behaviour you want, comment out the timeout line.
[12:39] <agliv> soundray: greetings
[12:39] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Ok. Well I think all you need is the 4(?) ndiswrapper packages.
[12:39] <soundray> agliv: salve
[12:39] <spotted> Hello
[12:39] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: where can I get them
[12:39] <soundray> !hi
[12:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:39] <spotted> Can anyone pls help me with my ati video card?
[12:39] <agliv> soundray: iknoia still having problems with the geometery stuff
[12:39] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: and do I just... install them (gui) and run the cd?
[12:39] <holle> i am using the newest feisty release. i upgraded from edgyeft. i am using a macbook (serial ata, rootfs = /dev/sda4). with the newest kernel (and udev) i am not able to boot (rootfs) not found. if i am using the edgy kernel (2.6.17) everything ist fine. any suggestions?
[12:40] <spotted> I can't let the latest ati drivers work with an ATI mobile X1600
[12:40] <spotted> I need to use the propertary drivers...
[12:40] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[12:40] <ikonia> !ati >spotted
[12:40] <phatrabbit> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal
[12:40] <spotted> I have patched the drivers to work with the kernel 2.6.20 and then I have installed them as I read on an howto
[12:40] <spotted> now I still have mesa opengl instead of ATI
[12:40] <spotted> why?
[12:41] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: There's a GUI. Just finding it now.
[12:41] <soundray> phatrabbit: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts-Run a terminal
[12:41] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: which of those 5 should I download?
[12:41] <phatrabbit> thanks
[12:41] <joanet> ?
[12:41] <ikonia> spotted: are you using feisty ?
[12:41] <tom_> is there any way to change the resolution/font size on the consoles (ctrl-alt-f*)
[12:41] <spotted> ikonia, I'm using edgy at the moment
[12:41] <soundray> agliv: sorry to hear that
[12:41] <loppa> I cant get a DVD to work, it says: org.freedesktop.dbus.error.accessdenied. So it wont even mount it. Any ideas?
[12:41] <ikonia> spotted: why are you using the 2.6.20 kernel ?
[12:41] <spotted> I quit feisty bedcause I couldn't let this work there
[12:41] <agliv> soundray: ikonia: I think we got the Grub issue for box 3 working now... still having mount problems with box 2 that you both were trying so long to fix the other day...
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, just because I have a MacBook Pro and there are a few fixes in this kernel
[12:42] <ikonia> agliv: whats the mount problem ?
[12:42] <ikonia> spotted: so you've built your own kernel
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, but I had the same problem on the older kernel...
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, yes
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, X starts with fglrx in xorg.conf
[12:42] <ikonia> ok that sounds a good start
[12:42] <spotted> but if I type fglrxinfo I get mesa opengl...
[12:43] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: all but the ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 (I think)
[12:43] <spotted> instead of using sudo module-assistant prepare
[12:43] <spotted> I have built the kernel with make-kpkg module_image
[12:43] <spotted> built the drivers*
[12:43] <agliv> soundray: ikonia geometry (hd0) listed /root as sda7 and geometry (hd1) listed nothing but when booting it says sda7 worng something or another...
[12:43] <spotted> next I ran dpkg -i driverfilename.deb
[12:43] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: install the common then the source then utils-1.1 then utils
[12:44] <agliv> soundray: ikonia: but let me get box 3 fixed before we go back to box 2....
[12:44] <ikonia> agliv: I'm not sure I'm clear about what your saying
[12:44] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: 'copy them onto laptop then 'sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb'
[12:44] <st0n3cutt3r> ok (1,2,4,3?)
[12:44] <[WaZ] > Hi everyone, anyone know of a way to install IE7?
[12:44] <agliv> ikonia: don't you remember trying to fix it via ssh?
[12:44] <yomm> How can I see all users on my ubuntu box ?
[12:44] <Ferret> yomm: Total, or logged in?
[12:44] <ikonia> yes, I remember that, you are still having problems ?
[12:44] <yomm> Ferret : total :)
[12:45] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: and if you want a gui for installing ndiswrapper then there's http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/ndisgtk but you'll need it's dependencies as well.
[12:45] <Ferret> yomm: cut -f1 -d: /etc/passwd
[12:45] <agliv> ikonia: then you had to leave for a meeting, thought it shold work but it didn't....
[12:45] <st0n3cutt3r> which do you think will be easier?
[12:45] <yomm> Ferret : thx
[12:45] <ikonia> agliv: whats the error you get
[12:46] <agliv> ikonia: could I please clairify two other issues before moving on to box2 problems?
[12:46] <ikonia> certainly
[12:46] <ikonia> shout when you're ready
[12:46] <ikonia> I will probably around
[12:46] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: just the ndiswrapper should be fine
[12:46] <agliv> soundray: any idea why it's still not working?
[12:47] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: the gui or the alternative method (with 4 packages)
[12:47] <st0n3cutt3r> ?
[12:47] <soundray> agliv: I'm confused -- box 2? box 3? mount? grub?
[12:47] <agliv> ikonia: can I give you my ICQ or email and you contact me if have to leave on short notice
[12:47] <ikonia> please do
[12:47] <ikonia> stick iti n a pm
[12:48] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: the first packages are all necessary. The ndisgtk is just a pretty clicky thing that you don't need.
[12:48] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: ok, so what should I do?
[12:48] <[WaZ] > Anyone, whats the syntax for installing a package with the --force-overwrite flag?
[12:48] <A[D] minS> setting
[12:49] <agliv> soundray: it is confusing... I am parrallely working on three seperat box installations: box 1 Windows XP, box 2 Ubuntu 6.06 x64. box 3, Windows XP + Ubuntu 6.06
[12:49] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: the links to the packages. You need to download them click on the 'Download' and chose which part of the world you are in.
[12:49] <st0n3cutt3r> alright
[12:49] <alexIdoia> :q
[12:49] <st0n3cutt3r> after that
[12:50] <agliv> soundray: all three have seperate problems, and you were trying to help me with box 2: Ubuntu 6.06 x64... ring a bell?
[12:50] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: (what do I do with them once I have them on my usb drive in ubuntu)
[12:50] <phatrabbit> damm whenever i update my nvidia drivers and restart xserver my monitor turns off
[12:50] <agliv> ikonia: how do I send you a pm via irc?
[12:50] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: cp them all to a usb drive or cd or something and put them on the linux machine. From there you will need to install them. 'sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb'
[12:51] <st0n3cutt3r> ok
[12:51] <spotted> Hello
[12:51] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: anything else after that?
[12:51] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: probably even 'dpkg -i *.deb' from the folder they'll be in.
[12:51] <ardchoille> agliv: You need to identify to nickserv first.
[12:51] <spotted> I have followed the guide that ikonia linked to me but I can't do it work yet
[12:51] <agliv> archoille: and how?
[12:52] <spotted> I have created the symbolic link as stated in the guide...
[12:52] <soundray> agliv: yes, I do, but I'm trying to understand what you want help with now.
[12:52] <spotted> unfortunately I still have OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:52] <ardchoille> agliv: is your nick registered?
[12:52] <spotted> and Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:52] <spotted> ikonia, help me pls :(
[12:52] <spotted> !ati > spotted
[12:53] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Well if all goes well, this should work. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210035
[12:54] <ardchoille> !register | agliv
[12:54] <yomm> the commmand useradd somename -s /bin/false doesn't do the trick , how does it work on Ubuntu ?
[12:54] <ubotu> agliv: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:54] <Apaksi> what would be the best way to install Ubuntu on a computer whose CD-drive is so bad that the live-cd session crashes? for example, does it simply work if I use Debian's netinstaller-cd and only change sources.list?
[12:55] <agliv> soundray, now I am working on box 3... and once that's finished and working then box 2...
[12:55] <soundray> yomm: what are you trying to do?
[12:55] <agliv> soundray: 3 box windows + ubuntu, grub doesn't windows... problem
[12:55] <flsp> hi folks. I have 2 NTFS partitions in my HD, but ubuntu (LIVE CD) does not create /dev/hda* on boot. It only creates /dev/hda. What can I do?
[12:55] <agliv> ubutu: regestering...
[12:56] <yomm> soundray i: installing clamav , and it needs a user  without /bin
[12:56] <spotted> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[12:56] <soundray> Apaksi: there are ways to install without a CD. Check the links page the ubotu will send to you, and take particular note when you find something about debootstrap
[12:56] <gyaresu> Apaksi: you could try the 'alternative' iso for install or PXE.
[12:56] <soundray> !install > Apaksi
[12:56] <yomm> soundray : i suppose for security reasons
[12:57] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about install
[12:57] <soundray> yomm: run 'adduser username' and edit /etc/passwd to replace that user's /bin/bash with /bin/false
[12:57] <Apaksi> soundray: ok, thanks :)
[12:57] <jin> now virus scanner is also needed for ubuntu?
[12:57] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I will install those 4 and then how do I go from there to the instructions?
[12:57] <yomm> soundray great thx :)
[12:57] <h1st0> jin: no need for virus scanner
[12:57] <spotted> can anyone pls pls pls help me?
[12:57] <spotted> :((
[12:57] <ardchoille> jin: No
[12:57] <soundray> jin: only if you route mail for Windows users
[12:57] <h1st0> !virus | jin
[12:57] <ubotu> jin: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:58] <h1st0> spotted: what are you trying to get working and are you using Fiesty?
[12:58] <h1st0> spotted: like are you installing beryl/compiz?  and what video card do you have?
[12:59] <flo> i'vd installed amarok and kdevelop under a gnome envirment but now i have a /home/-/.kde/share/config empty folder how can i remadiate?
[12:59] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: do you have any ideas. everytime i update my xconf to the new nvidia drivers my monitor goes to standby. so i think the drivers are not compatible
[12:59] <erUSUL> spotted: do you have a 'Load "dri"' and Section "DRI"\n Mode 666\n EndSection  in your xorg.conf ??
[12:59] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Your going to love this... Did you _read_ the page at !wifi ?
[12:59] <h1st0> flo: if you no longer have the programs installed you can just delet the .kde folders.
[01:00] <gyaresu> !wifi | st0n3cutt3r
[01:00] <ubotu> st0n3cutt3r: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:00] <phatrabbit> but they are the latest nvidia drivers and i have an nvidia card so im not sure what i am spose to do
[01:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:00] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[01:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <phatrabbit> !xserver
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I know that when I triple-booted my computer I had the same problem
[01:00] <yomm> soundray : it's strange , according to the useradd --help "-s /bin/false" should be a valid string ....
[01:00] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: no i am only using XP and ubuntu
[01:00] <yomm> well .. it works so :)
[01:00] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I think that my computer did not like 64bit ubuntu at all
[01:01] <agliv> !register | aglIV
[01:01] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I think the principal still applies
[01:01] <soundray> yomm: what's wrong with my suggestion?
[01:01] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: how do i check if my ubuntu is 64 or 32
[01:01] <phatrabbit> im pretty sure its 32
[01:01] <flsp> hi folks. I have 2 NTFS partitions in my HD, but ubuntu (LIVE CD) does not create /dev/hda* on boot. It only creates /dev/hda. What can I do?
[01:02] <flo> h1st0: i have the progs installed and i want to run them but i get somme not writble files error in .kde/config(folder that is empty) on another pc this folder has a bunch of filles
[01:02] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: depending on your chipset... Looks like yours is the ZyDas zd1211b driver
[01:02] <soundray> yomm: you can even do 'adduser --shell /bin/false username'
[01:02] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: do you have your ubuntu install CD?
[01:03] <phatrabbit> yer i do
[01:03] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: have you tried booting from that?
[01:03] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: well i can just reconfigure my xserver and it fixes it
[01:03] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You can forget about the ndiswrapper. (Are you seeing my messages?)
[01:03] <soundray> flsp: check if ubotu recognizes the partitions with 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and tell me (just yes or no)
[01:03] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: its just i am puzzled becos i am updating my nvidia drivers and they dont work so what else am i spose to do :(
[01:04] <kraut> moin
[01:04] <soundray> flsp: sorry, that must be 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[01:04] <h1st0> flo: perhaps reinstall the programs?  Basically files in your ~ with . are hidden files ususually per user settings of the program.
[01:04] <whacko> hi guyz, do any1 know how to add/remove an entry to the right click menu of a file/folder ?
[01:04] <phatrabbit> !xconf
[01:04] <soundray> kraut: not those Germans again ;)
[01:04] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: yes I am, I am just extremely confused by them because you keep telling me different instructions to follow and i have no idea what to read or what to do with anything you are telling me.  sorry about not responding
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <Askar> I think i should keep ubuntu on my laptop...
[01:05] <phatrabbit> !x.conf
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <flsp> soundray, Yes.
[01:05] <soundray> !xorg > phatrabbit
[01:05] <phatrabbit> ta
[01:05] <ardchoille> whacko: In gnome? Not really any way to do that. Some apps, like nautilus-open-terminal, will add an anetry, but I don't think you can add/remove any entry you want.
[01:05] <techie> good morning all. There are certain programs I want to use from xp but I need to install certain plugins to make them work in Ubuntu. Anybody knows what that means? Basically I am looking for a way to execute "Wenlin" (a chinese learning program) I used to use in windows now in Ubuntu!
[01:05] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[01:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:06] <whacko> ardchoille, r u sure?
[01:06] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I'm sorry, I'm a noob with linux, I just know that I was having a very similar problem and thought I might offer up my solution
[01:06] <soundray> flsp: then try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt' (or replace hda1 appropriately). It will mount read-only.
[01:06] <agliv> ardchoille: now I'm registered... how do I send a pm?
[01:06] <ardchoille> whacko: I have been searching for a way to do that for over a year and haven't found anything.
[01:06] <soundray> !goobotuse > phatrabbit, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:06] <soundray> !goodbotuse > phatrabbit, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:06] <soundray> dang
[01:06] <ardchoille> agliv: You type:  /query nick   and then pm with that person
[01:06] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29  These are the instructions for you.
[01:07] <whacko> ardchoille, cant we just modify the code of nautilus-open-terminal? is it so big and complex?
[01:07] <techie> Does anybody knows a good program in Ubuntu for learning chinese?
[01:07] <ardchoille> whacko: No idea.
[01:07] <agliv> ardchoille: thanks for the assistance :)
[01:07] <ardchoille> agliv: You're welcome :)
[01:07] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I tried those, but I can't do the sudo apt-get update because I am not connected to the internet
[01:07] <whacko> ardchoille, i havent tried nautilus-open-terminal? it ll add an entry is it?
[01:07] <Askar> whacko: ardchoille:  nautilus-actions?
[01:08] <agliv> ikonia: still there?
[01:08] <ardchoille> Askar: Never played with it
[01:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You will need three packages: You can download form packages.ubuntu.com the exact links are...
[01:08] <ardchoille> Askar: I take that back, I remember playing with it, realising it was crap and uninstalled it.
[01:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: build-essential http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fb%2Fbuild-essential%2Fbuild-essential_11.3_i386.deb&md5sum=9555bbff826c8f059d00a824d6285275&arch=i386&type=main
[01:08] <flsp> soundray, thats is the problem: mount responds: "the special device /dev/hda1 does not exist" - but hda1 is listed by fdisk
[01:09] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: What kernel version are you running? Find out by 'uname -a'
[01:09] <whacko> Askar, have u used it to add an entry?
[01:09] <soundray> flsp: could you pastebin your dmesg output pls (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01:09] <agliv> ardchoille: is a pm just a message or a seperat chat room... i.e. can I just type away and the user will recieve or does the user have to join the "room" inorder to se what I have to say?
[01:09] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: ok, brb
[01:10] <agliv> soundray: still there?
[01:10] <soundray> yes
[01:10] <elkbuntu> spotted, you left while we were trying to get info from you. what is your video card?
[01:10] <ardchoille> agliv: a pm is like a private channel with you and the recipient. When you type and hit ENTER, they will see it provided you are registered and identified.
[01:10] <Matic`Makovec> Which MSN client would you recommend?
[01:11] <agliv> sounds good :) thankx again :)
[01:11] <flsp> soundray, No. the computer under test does not recognizes eth0 either...
[01:11] <Joeeigel> hi
[01:12] <spotted> elkbuntu, I solved it. :P
[01:12] <soundray> flsp: is the disk in question IDE or SATA?
[01:12] <elkbuntu> spotted, yay!
[01:12] <spotted> I did everythin' but disabling compiz in the file xorg.conf
[01:12] <agliv> ardchoille: freenode is saying that I'm not regestired eventhough I followed all the steps...
[01:12] <flsp> soundray, IDE - its a notebook.
[01:12] <Joeeigel> I need a hand installing "Tracert" and getting my internet to work...
[01:12] <ardchoille> agliv: /msg nickserv help register
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, you only needed to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and disable the DRI module ;)  out of curiosity, ATI?
[01:13] <spotted> elkbuntu, yes
[01:13] <jin> !p2p
[01:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[01:13] <soundray> flsp: has anyone else had that kind of trouble with your model? Search tuxmobil.org
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, and it was using the vesa driver?
[01:13] <spotted> Now I can install XGL and beryl
[01:13] <spotted> elkbuntu, yes
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, you wont get beryl/compiz on the vesa :-/
[01:13] <soundray> Joeeigel: use tracepath - it is there by default
[01:13] <jin> spotted, why do you want it?
[01:14] <Joeeigel> Ok, but i also need help getting my internet to work on my ubuntu partition
[01:14] <spotted> elkbuntu, I have the fglrx driver running now, not vesa. :)
[01:14] <happer> hi
[01:14] <agliv> soundray:  got you now.... so by inserting the correct infor for the windows partition and commenting out the timeout, the problem should be fixed?
[01:14] <elkbuntu> spotted, brilliant :)
[01:14] <spotted> jin, cos I like beryl effects?
[01:14] <soundray> !elaborate | Joeeigel
[01:14] <ubotu> Joeeigel: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:15] <Joeeigel> Well... the internet just dosn't load on it
[01:15] <Joeeigel> It can ping sites fine
[01:15] <Joeeigel> but they dont load
[01:15] <Joeeigel> saim with the messenger
[01:15] <soundray> agliv: the commenting-out will just disable automatic booting
[01:15] <soundray> !enter | Joeeigel
[01:15] <ubotu> Joeeigel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:16] <agliv> soundray: will it show the list or not?
[01:16] <soundray> agliv: yes
[01:16] <flsp> soundray, I will serach... but I have another question: is there some linux application to recover windows MBR?
[01:16] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: can you open a terminal up and type some commands in please?
[01:16] <agliv> good, then let me save and reboot.... hopefully I'll be back shortly ;)
[01:16] <soundray> flsp: I don't think so, but you can probably do it with Freedos
[01:16] <agliv> soundray: wish me luck
[01:16] <Joeeigel> Im on a windows PC atm as my linux partiton dosnt work with the internet..
[01:17] <Joeeigel> if you want me to type commands, i would have to reset
[01:17] <gyaresu> Do you have a second computer that you can use here while you work on the Linux machine? It'll be hard to help ypu otherwies.
[01:18] <soundray> Joeeigel: have you tried pinging sites by IP address, or by name also?
[01:18] <Joeeigel> I have a PSP which i could use for email
[01:18] <Joeeigel> Souind, ive pinged google.com, which gave me an average of 102ms
[01:19] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: And you try looking at sites with which web browser?
[01:19] <Joeeigel> the firefox one, i cant get any others as i need an internet connection, which dosnt work.
[01:19] <soundray> Joeeigel: I suggest you try again and open a site in a web browser. If you get a response after 2 minutes of waiting, it's your DNS setup at fault
[01:20] <gyaresu> soundray: if he can ping google however...
[01:20] <flsp> soundray, problem: this notebook does not have floppy unit. I can only boot from CD.
[01:20] <soundray> gyaresu: ...the google IP may have been cached
[01:20] <kane77> i have a problem with disapearing dns... I'm on dapper.
[01:21] <rjalex01> hello anyone with experience on IBM Thinkpads and Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:21] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: Just try again and then report back can you? It's a strange problem that _shouldn't_ be happening. Try a few websites.
[01:21] <soundray> rjalex01: is that a survey?
[01:21] <gyaresu> !question | rjalex01
[01:21] <ubotu> rjalex01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <gyaresu> kane77: you know about /etc/resolv.conf ?
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[01:22] <soundray> flsp: you can get a boot CD with Freedos somewhere
[01:23] <kane77> gyaresu, yes I know of it, but mine said that it is generated and shouldn't be manualy edited...
[01:23] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: Not me, I'm sleeping soon.
[01:23] <st0n3cutt3r_> well.. that took long enough to reconnect :/
[01:23] <Joeeigel> ok =/
[01:23] <Joeeigel> i also tried www.donteatcake.co.uk
[01:23] <rjalex01> thank you and sorry .. newbie ... I am wonderig why the installation of the tpb package which on Debian I use to control the Thinkpad buttons, causes the removal of the packages ubuntu-desktop and hotkey setup (IBM T42 and new inst of 6.10)
[01:23] <gyaresu> kane77: Do you have two network devices going (wifi & eth) bye any chance?
[01:24] <soundray> kane77: you can safely edit it to diagnose the problem. It just means that your changes may be overwritten.
[01:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: welcome back.
[01:24] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: thanks.  it said i686
[01:24] <kane77> gyaresu, yes I have and I use both (i use wifi for internet connection and eth0 for sharing internet connection)
[01:24] <soundray> rjalex01: because the package conflicts with something that ubuntu-desktop depends on
[01:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> I am sure I copied the output txt to the usb drive, but it's not showing up for some reason
[01:25] <rjalex01> I want to be able to turn my wifi radio on and off by pressing Fn-F5 like I did under Debian and do under Windows
[01:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: ulp! um. 'uname -a' should give you something like: Linux sdf 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:25] <soundray> rjalex01: either use hotkey setup instead, or let it remove ubuntu-desktop -- it is just a metapackage (read pm from ubotu)
[01:25] <kane77> gyaresu, I know I can edit it but when I setup the dns they work, only after reset/poweroff they disapear...
[01:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: the bit you need is actually the 'uname -r' bit 2.6.17-11-generic in my case.
[01:25] <soundray> !metapackage > rjalex01
[01:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: oh
[01:26] <flsp> soundray, probably is the only solution. Thanx!
[01:26] <soundray> flsp: which version of ubuntu live were you trying?
[01:26] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: -_-' I am about to pass out at this point; rebooting takes too long.  will you be on tonight?
[01:26] <rjalex01> thanks soundray ... I am new to ubuntu but not new to Debian hance I understand what a metapackage is.
[01:27] <flsp> soundray, Dapper 6.06 - but i've tried other distros - exact the same problem
[01:27] <soundray> flsp: is it a fairly new laptop?
[01:28] <rjalex01> is the generic kernel better be replaced for my Dothan 1.8 GHz pentium M processor ?
[01:28] <gyaresu> kane77: st0n3cutt3r_ sorry got to sleep soon. If you can take the machine to a LAN then things would be easier.
[01:28] <soundray> rjalex01: no
[01:28] <soundray> !generic > rjalex01
[01:28] <rjalex01> thanks soundray
[01:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: I'll see what I can do about it
[01:28] <kane77> gyaresu, ok, good night then
[01:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: will you be on later to help?
[01:28] <flsp> soundray, yes, about 1year
[01:28] <gyaresu> kane77: resolv.conf is overwriten by dhclient so if you change your network settings to static rather than dhcp you could keep them.
[01:28] <daedra> anyone recommend a good commandline music player?
[01:29] <soundray> flsp: did you find any installation reports on tuxmobil or elsewhere?
[01:29] <daedra> !music
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <soundray> daedra: ogg123, mpg321
[01:29] <kane77> gyaresu, that was exactly it, I dont use dhcp... (neither my isp)
[01:29] <daedra> soundray: ncurses plzzz
[01:29] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: I'll be around but if you show someone the link to the page you'll get help.
[01:29] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: ok, thanks
[01:30] <soundray> daedra: 'apt-cache search ncurses music' or similar
[01:30] <gyaresu> kane77: are both your network cards set statically?
[01:30] <kane77> gyaresu, yes
[01:30] <Zaggynl> Has anyone gotten Dungeondigger to work?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2245353
[01:30] <Zaggynl> (Open Source Dungeon Keeper remake)
[01:31] <gyaresu> kane77: but you say your resolv.conf is being overwritten?
[01:31] <kane77> gyaresu, yes
[01:31] <vleon> hi if i hava a module for a devise "blabla.ko" how do i load it, or check if it is loaded?
[01:31] <burepe> Is there something that I can put in my tool bar to tell me how much disk space I have left?
[01:31] <phatrabbit> can somone tell me where all updates and apt-gets are saved to, as in the full path ?
[01:31] <kane77> gyaresu, that's why I think its strange....
[01:31] <erUSUL> phatrabbit: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:31] <aglIV> soundray: I partially worked, but I think I know what the problem is....
[01:31] <gyaresu> kane77: I agree.
[01:31] <phatrabbit> erUSUL: thanks
[01:32] <flsp> soundray, tried google yesterday. found nothing. the real problem is: this notebook is from a friend, has only windows partitions, and suddenly becomes unbootable. I am trying to use linux to recover MBR, or to backup.
[01:32] <erUSUL> kane77: not strange at all it says it clear in the 2 first lines of the file
[01:32] <aglIV> soundray: the other problem is that my wife is waiting and lunch is on the table, so I'll be back.....
[01:32] <kane77> gyaresu, could it be the vmware that causes that? (it added some network devices..)
[01:32] <DaveTarmac> afternoon folks. got a networking problem. using a wired connection now. cable plugged directly in to router, light came on the router indicating that a connection has been made, but cannot retrieve ip from dhcp.
[01:32] <soundray> aglIV: guten Appetit
[01:32] <aglIV> vielen dank
[01:32] <gyaresu> kane77: Here's mine: http://rafb.net/p/R8yDRR61.html
[01:32] <soundray> flsp: I see, so for all we know the disk may be faulty?
[01:33] <gyaresu> kane77: no to vmware (i think)
[01:33] <gyaresu> kane77: Sorry I won't be much use atm. I really must sleep.
[01:33] <soundray> flsp: have you got a spare laptop hard disk to exchange it?
[01:33] <DaveTarmac> are there any special commands i need to enter in order to get my WIRED connection working?
[01:33] <kane77> gyaresu, ok, bye
[01:33] <aglIV> soundray:  auch zum essen gerad? dann malzeit und la's schmecken.... und tu nicht verrecken ;)
[01:34] <bigbang14> omg! i was messing about in nautilus, yes i know bad thing to do, when i changed some important file permission. problem is i don't know which ones and i don't know how to change them back. is there a simple way out?
[01:34] <gyaresu> kane77: Short term solution would be to run a script that changed it on boot. Maybe a line in /etc/rc.local
[01:34] <soundray> aglIV: thanks, we'll have Brtchen for lunch today. We found a place here that makes good ones, indistinguishable from proper German ones ;)
[01:35] <soundray> aglIV: well, "brunch"
[01:35] <daedra> "i must sleep" = "insomniac" said backwards
[01:35] <kane77> gyaresu, okay, Ill try that anyways I plan to reinstall after feisty is released...
[01:36] <flsp> soundray, not physically. I could find a linux prog "testdisk" which can list all the files inside the partitions - the data is all there.
[01:36] <DaveTarmac> i have made sure that eth0 is up, but still cannot get an ip through dhcp using dhclient
[01:36] <rjalex01> how can I debug hibernate (suspend to disk) ? suspend to ram works well (Fn+F4) but suspend-to-disk (Fn+F12) does not seem to work (screen blanks momentarily but then session resumed)
[01:36] <flsp> soundray, no, I have not a spare disk
[01:37] <logikon> why keyring manager never actually "remembers" my password on a samba network access? I always have to type it again even though I check it to memorize..
[01:37] <bigbang14> i was messing about in nautilus, yes i know bad thing to do, when i changed some important file permission. problem is i don't know which ones and i don't know how to change them back. is there a simple way out?
[01:38] <Lunar_Lamp> bigbang14, what are the effects of the permissions change?
[01:38] <soundray> flsp: for safety, I would recommend backing up the disk, perhaps with dd if all else fails. Do you have an external disk or space on an accessible network share for doing that?
[01:39] <bigbang14> Lunar_Lamp: im getting message on start up about .dmrc i think and i cant use sudo or compiz
[01:39] <bigbang14> i changed most of the file permission starting from top
[01:39] <Co_Hilang> hello
[01:40] <bigbang14> any way to change them back to a default?
[01:41] <soundray> bigbang14: bummer. Easiest is to reinstall
[01:42] <soundray> bigbang14: you can fix the permissions one by one, starting with .dmrc, but it will take longer.
[01:43] <flsp> soundray, I have only a pendrive. have no big external unit to dd the entire disk. and have no network, because no linux distro could recognize this network adapter (Rhine II) - when i try to activate eth0, believe me, the kernel locks.
[01:43] <ikonia> rhine ii is supported isn't it
[01:43] <DaveTarmac> getting ticked at this now. why am i destined not to have this machine on the network?
[01:43] <nazgul> running dapper. I cannot get a new login when already logged into Gnome. neither nested mode nor new X server works. when I run "gdmflexiserver --xnest" in a shell nothing happens, it just blocks. any ideas?
[01:43] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: explain
[01:43] <phatrabbit> damm this is driving me crazy. I have used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and installed my drivers which didnt work. I have tried Envy which downloaded drivers and isntalled them and didnt work. i am stumped any help would be much appriciated thanks
[01:44] <soundray> flsp: I'll be away for a while now -- freedos might be the solution for the mbr. Good luck
[01:44] <DaveTarmac> if anyone can help then I would be most grateful, plus it would save me money paying for new windows in the house.
[01:44] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: explain
[01:44] <flsp> ikonia, i dont know... in my notebook, no linux distro could bring it up.
[01:44] <ikonia> phatrabbit: what problem are you having
[01:45] <phatrabbit> ikonia: well i had huge problems with installing the latest nvidia drivers with ubuntu 6.06 dapper and now i upgraded to 6.10 and i am still having the same issue
[01:45] <flsp> soundray, thanks a lot for your assistance. i'll try freedos.
[01:45] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: For tha past week I have been trying to get MadWifi working to no success. Today I gave up, carted the machine downstairs and plugged it directly in to the router. There is still no network connection though.
[01:45] <loppa> can anybody help me with a DVD issue? Cant get it to work, says access denied. Even though I've installed libxine1 and libdvdcss
[01:46] <phatrabbit> ikonia: everytime i install the drivers and it updates the xconf and i restart xserver my monitor goes to standby
[01:46] <ikonia> phatrabbit: 1.) what is the problem 2.) why are you trying to use the nvidia drivers, rather than the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos
[01:46] <Clujo> DaveTarmac, did you try booting from the live cd?  what wifi card.
[01:46] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: there are lights on the router in the port I've plugged it in to which means that an active connection is thee
[01:46] <nazgul> hmm, actually I am running Edgy. I cannot start a second X server to have two sessions running.
[01:46] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: that suggests there is something else wrong as the odds of your wifi and wired connection ont working is a little slim
[01:46] <ikonia> nazgul: you can only have 1 xserver running per display
[01:47] <phatrabbit> ikonia: i will paste my xconf file for you
[01:47] <jin> how do I enable shadow without using beryl?
[01:47] <phatrabbit> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <nazgul> ikonia: I know.when I run "gdmflexiserver --xnest" in a shell nothing happens, it just blocks. any ideas?
[01:47] <jpjacobs> ikonia, more like 1 xserver per VT, and then you can also use Xnest to have an xserver in an xserver
[01:47] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: i did have the wifi working a couple of days ago, but it lost all settings on reboot
[01:47] <jin> !composite
[01:47] <g0su> Can you help me with locale? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8579/
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ikonia> jpjacobs: thats a better description
[01:48] <aglIV> soundray: I'm back... still there
[01:48] <aglIV> ikonia: you didn't recieve any pm from me did you?
[01:48] <ikonia> aglIV: nope
[01:49] <techie> I need to install an xp into ubuntu via the cd and then put it in virtual C drive. How do I send this to virtual C drive?
[01:49] <techie> an xp program unto ubuntu
[01:49] <bigbang14> are all the permission in ubuntu the same or will i have to change them to differnt things?
[01:49] <ikonia> techie: what are you on about - xp into ubuntu /???? do you mean using a virtual machine
[01:50] <Clujo> techie- look up wine, see if that will do.
[01:50] <DaveTarmac> screw it - i'm going to take a leaf out of the windows tech help book. If it doesn't work, format and reinstall!
[01:50] <ompaul> DaveTarmac, hardly help in that case
[01:50] <Phatrabbi1> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <flsp> hi folks, can I run freedos fdisk inside linux, without having to boot freedos???
[01:51] <Askar> hi!! The search option has disappeared from the places-menu! How do I get it back?
[01:51] <techie> Ikonia. NO! Basically there is an specific program I used to use while in xp called "Wenlin" (for learning Chinese). According to the instructions the only way to run this in Linux is to actually install the program in linux and then put in virtual C and do a (fake windows) so that you can run that program!
[01:51] <ikonia> flsp: not really - its still meant for dos
[01:51] <ikonia> techie: so you mean wine ?
[01:51] <Sivako> Hi
[01:51] <elkbuntu> !wine | techie
[01:51] <ubotu> techie: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:51] <Clujo> techie - again, have you looked at wine?
[01:51] <aglIV> ikonia: did you get my invitation?
[01:51] <ompaul> flsp, not really, but afik you could try to use qemu to start booting freefos if I understand it correctly
[01:51] <techie> I already have wine installed. and Yes the wine will try to run the program.
[01:52] <ikonia> ok - so whats your question, how do I use wine ?
[01:52] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia:  here is my xorg.config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8580/
[01:52] <ikonia> aglIV: nope
[01:52] <nazgul> flsp: perhaps using a msdos emulator. but linux comes with fdisk, cfdisk, parted ...
[01:52] <techie> Ikonia... hold on.
[01:52] <ompaul> aglIV, usually better to ask in the channel then anyone with a clue about what you are asking can help you
[01:53] <flsp> ompaul, I never used qemu - only wine... but i will try.
[01:53] <ompaul> flsp, not done it a while but the online howtos for it are rather good
[01:53] <bigbang14> where can i find a list of ubuntus original file permission?
[01:53] <techie> ikonia. first I must install Wenlin in debian system and then put in virtual C and use the following command: wine ~'/.wine/fake_windows/Program Files/Wenlin3/wenlin.exe'.
[01:54] <ikonia> bigbang14: on an ubuntu box
[01:54] <aglIV> ompaul: I want to send ikonia my email and ICQ address and really don't care but thought it would't be good to post here....
[01:54] <flsp> nazgul, i have to recover dos MBR. I think only dos fdisk can do it. is that right?
[01:54] <ikonia> techie: you do realise it may be a bit different on ubuntu
[01:54] <ikonia> aglIV: I'm not getting any info from you
[01:54] <techie> ikonia... yes but the program is not a true linux program yet.... I realize it might not be perfect
[01:55] <aglIV> ikonia: looks like the /invite nick channel is not working... so would you join me in #aglIV-pm?
[01:55] <ikonia> techie: the pogram is a windows program. So you need to install and configure wine on UBUNTU, then use wine to launch it
[01:55] <ompaul> aglIV, that would not be a good idea
[01:55] <techie> ikonia.... but I need the program and do not want to be going back to windows all the time just because of it.
[01:55] <ikonia> aglIV: yup
[01:55] <flsp> ompaul, yep, ill do some reading, and come back here later... thanks for the hint.
[01:55] <ompaul> aglIV, you need to be ops in a channel for that to work
[01:55] <ikonia> techie: thats fine - then use the ubuntu guide to install and configure wine
[01:55] <ziottt> hi there
[01:56] <techie> Ikonia I have already installed wine..... but what I do not understand is how to install to virtual drive c?
[01:56] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8580/
[01:56] <ikonia> Phatrabbi1: what ?
[01:56] <Clujo> the virtual drive c is already there if wine is installed.
[01:56] <ikonia> Phatrabbi1: you need to tell me the problem
[01:56] <techie> clujo. I was not aware even now I could see and read and use some of my windows programs through my windows folder
[01:57] <ziottt> time ago I remove apache and its service, but today I tried to re install it again but I can't find the service to launch it
[01:57] <techie> is that virtual c?
[01:57] <phatrabbit> ikonia: everytime i install the new nvidia drivers and it updates the xconf and i restart xserver my monitor goes to standby
[01:57] <ziottt> how is it possible
[01:57] <ziottt> tom@skeleton:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache-ssl
[01:57] <ziottt> Replacing config file /etc/apache-ssl/modules.conf with new version
[01:57] <ziottt> tom@skeleton:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ap
[01:57] <ziottt> apmd    apport
[01:57] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: ok - i've just booted it in to windows and that doesn't have the network driver for the onboard ethernet. could it be that Ubuntu doesn't either? If this is the case - how do Igo about putting one on?
[01:57] <ikonia> phatrabbit: are you using ubuntu or ubuntu x86_^4
[01:57] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia: i am using ubuntu 86
[01:57] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: what windows has/has not got is nothing to do with what ubuntu may or may not have
[01:58] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia:  how can i double check
[01:58] <erUSUL> Phatrabbi1: uname -m
[01:58] <Clujo> DaveTarmac, if you can, try a real cheap ethercard and boot from live cd.
[01:58] <ompaul> ziottt, care to use a pastebin next time?
[01:58] <Phatrabbi1> i686
[01:58] <DaveTarmac> so does ubuntu not work with onboard ethernet either then by default?
[01:58] <ikonia> phatrabbi I have seen issues like this  you may want to join #nvidia and ask in there as its normally something to do with dcc info not being advertised properly so it doesn't initialise the monitor, or dpms is not working
[01:59] <ziottt> ok ok
[01:59] <ziottt> sorry
[01:59] <Phatrabbi1> ok thanks
[01:59] <SirTouster> Hello, I have been finally getting rid of windows, took one disk with windows out, reinstalled grub on my minulx disk, and all was fine. Only, the sound does not work any more. Only hint I can see is that the "volme control" in the tray is not there any more. Please, could anybody help? Shoudl I put here some other specifications (in lshw, I cann see my card properly). Running on EdgyEft.
[01:59] <Clujo> ubuntu should find it DaveTarmac .
[01:59] <erUSUL> ubotu tell SirTouster about sound | SirTouster see priv msg from ubotu
[01:59] <Clujo> I have weird, old hardware and ubuntu has found everything.
[02:00] <jin> !nvidia
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <techie> ikonia... another question. I recently download a medical movie ending with wrmv but I do not have the codecs to run it in totem. How do I download or find codecs for playing with my Ubuntu system?
[02:00] <jin> the performance of nvidia on ubuntu is very poor here
[02:00] <DaveTarmac> ok. so i'll get the latest live cd and try booting off that then to see if it picks it up.
[02:00] <Clujo> find a couple live cds.  knoppix too
[02:01] <techie> ikonia .... or for that matter how do I install needed codecs to be able to play them with my media player?
[02:01] <ompaul> Dave123, it does in most cases - I have yet to find a machine it does not work on
[02:01] <ikonia> techie: probably win32 codecs
[02:01] <techie> ikonia.... ah, thanks.
[02:01] <ikonia> !restricedformats >techie
[02:01] <techie> ok
[02:01] <Matic`Makovec> Which video player is the best to use for watching .wmv or siilar things?
[02:02] <ikonia> Matic`Makovec: doesn't matter, as long as they all have the codecs
[02:02] <Matic`Makovec> Which codecs are actually required? I'm kinda having problems with watching someting in Totem
[02:02] <aglIV> ikonia: sent you an email ;)
[02:02] <ikonia> win32 codecs
[02:02] <ikonia> aglIV: ok - thanks
[02:02] <Matic`Makovec> !win32
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <ikonia> !restricedformats >matic`makovec
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> !restricedformats > matic`makovec
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> Righto, thanks
[02:03] <Euperia> i have a Dell C400 Latitude Laptop with no cd/dvd or floppy drive running Slackware 10.1 and  I want to install ubuntu on it.  Bios has option to boot from network.  How do I boot the loopback device mounted on my main box from the laptop over the lan?
[02:03] <ikonia> aglIV: I've just noticed I WAS getting your invites, it was just showing up on a difference desktop. Sorry
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: do you remember what info was in your ICQ profile??? I can search for you
[02:04] <paradroid> Hi. Is there an alternative to cups-pdf that will produce PDFs from any application (just like cups-pdf) but *with* the text in the PDF being selectable?
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: don't worry
[02:04] <ikonia> aglIV: nah, I'll find it on my old desktop
[02:04] <logikon> when I apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, will it install the latest version of xfce?
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: k, got time :)
[02:05] <comosicus> anybody using gaime?
[02:05] <Clujo> logikon, yes, but google it.
[02:05] <ikonia> comosicus: yes
[02:05] <paradroid> comosicus: Gaim? As IM Client? Yes, once in a while.
[02:05] <aglIV> ikonia: looks like soundray's no longer arround so your'e stuck with helping me out.... hehehe
[02:05] <ikonia> not at all
[02:05] <ikonia> happy to help
[02:05] <logikon> Clujo: the about says version 4.3.99.1 (xfce 4.4 beta2)
[02:05] <Dame> yey, finally my dad realised that he need to install linux on his pc, lap-top and at work. I feel good when gnu/linux gains people trust!
[02:06] <logikon> and I can't seem to find the transparency settings
[02:06] <comosicus> when i trying to ad buddy gaime says that the id is not on a server list
[02:06] <paradroid> comosicus: What protocoll?
[02:07] <paradroid> Anyone using cups-pdf to generate PDFs?
[02:08] <aglIV> ikonia: so I chaged the entries in grub.lst, but the problem is another (I think)
[02:09] <comosicus> in my acounts box it's yahoo....and if i click add it's aim/icq
[02:09] <ikonia> aglIV: wich problem is this
[02:09] <g0su> aglet, in grub.lst or menu.lst?
[02:09] <g0su> aglIV, sorry
[02:09] <aglIV> ikonia: to make a long story short it's saying root (hd0,4) FS unknown Partition 0x7
[02:09] <Five_Star> hello everybody
[02:09] <ikonia> aglIV: thats because you want (hd1,7)
[02:10] <aglIV> g0su: good question, let me look
[02:10] <ikonia> (assuming your root is sda8)
[02:10] <Five_Star> I've been trying to install ubuntu (I'm a veteran to this but I'm having some odd problems)
[02:10] <aglIV> ikonia: that was on box 2, talking bot box 3 now
[02:10] <ikonia> ok - so whats this problem
[02:10] <aglIV> ikonia: :)
[02:10] <g0su> aglIV, in my ubuntu is /boot/grub/menu.lst...
[02:10] <Five_Star> Every time I try to install, it gets to 15% (the ext3 partition part, I think creation), and it freezes
[02:10] <aglIV> g0su: mine too ;)
[02:10] <g0su> and in ubuntu documentation is /boot/grub/menu.lst XD
[02:11] <ikonia> its /boot/grub/menu.lst - ok - we've established that
[02:11] <paradroid> comosicus: Let me set up a Yahoo account for testing. Second.
[02:11] <comosicus> k
[02:11] <Five_Star> anybody have any ideas why it's freezing there?
[02:11] <g0su> (hd0,4) FS unknown Partition 0x7 = your partition dont have file system format or this partition is not correct
[02:11] <aglIV> ikonia:  g0su the problem was that grub was't seing windows so I updated menu.lst to the correct hd and partition, but then got the errror that I mentioned before
[02:12] <nemesis_> nas
[02:12] <aglIV> ikonia:  g0su and I think that I know why.....
[02:12] <ikonia> aglIV: you're grub options for windows looks different
[02:12] <ikonia> hang on I'll pastebin and example
[02:12] <g0su> aglIV, df -h and you menu.lst i need it
[02:12] <g0su> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :D
[02:12] <Hmmmm> when is fiesty out?
[02:12] <christophe> Hi folks. I have a strange Boot behavior with GRUB. I never saw that before. After the 'GRUB loading stage1.5.'-message it takes 30 sec (!) and then I get 'GRUB loading please wait' and then it takes another 30 sec. (!!) until ubuntu starts to boot. What is going wrong here?
[02:13] <Five_Star> Hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu (6.10), and every time it gets to the formatting part, it freezes at 15% (the ext3 partition creation part)
[02:13] <techie> ikonia totem movie player tells me I might not have the necessary pluggins. How do I install additional pluggins?
[02:14] <christophe> Five_Star: Are you sure, that your HD is ok?
[02:14] <predaeus> christophe: does it always happen? And did you change anything?
[02:14] <techie> ikonia the ending of the movie file is wmv
[02:14] <Five_Star> christophe: yea, but just to be double sure is there a way I can tell if it has died?
[02:14] <Five_Star> christophe: it's not making any crazy noises or the like
[02:15] <ikonia> !restrictedformats >technie
[02:15] <ikonia> !restrictedformats >techie
[02:15] <techie> ok thanks.
[02:15] <erUSUL> Five_Star: are you able to switch to a console and take a look at the logs? crtl+alt+F1
[02:15] <Five_Star> erUSUL: yea lemme look
[02:15] <paradroid> Five_Star: You could also use a GParted boot-disk to prepare the harddisk for installation and then let Ubuntu use this set-up.
[02:15] <techie> !restrictedformats
[02:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <ikonia> techie: I just sent you that link
[02:15] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >techie
[02:15] <christophe> predaeus: I can confirm... It always happens and I didn't change anything in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:16] <techie> Ikonia ... yes I am going there now to the links.
[02:17] <javier> hola, beuans tardes, alguien podria ayudarme?
[02:17] <erUSUL> !es > javier
[02:18] <predaeus> christophe: mine hangs only very seldom. and also not that long. maybe 1-2 times a year. dunno what that is though. sry.
[02:18] <robinlinth> How do i get the newest Xfce on my ubuntu install?
[02:18] <barata> anybody uses Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.2?
[02:18] <barata> what the heck is that?
[02:18] <ikonia> barata: its a none official product
[02:18] <barata> is it good?
[02:19] <ikonia> nope
[02:19] <barata> why not?
[02:19] <ikonia> its just pre-packaged stuff
[02:19] <ikonia> but its not official
[02:19] <aglIV> ikonia: g0su http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8583/
[02:19] <comosicus> helloooo!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:19] <ikonia> so its pointless
[02:19] <christophe> predaeus: Could that be a BIOS thing? I am using a 8.6 GB HD with a PIII 766Mhz IBM Netvista
[02:19] <jussi01> !hi | comosicus,
[02:19] <ubotu> comosicus,: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <barata> why the official one is 'better'?
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: that looks fine
[02:19] <Five_star> ok
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: whats the problem
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: what partition is your windows
[02:20] <Five_star> when I tried to do that, it froze completely
[02:20] <ikonia> barata: because its suported
[02:20] <tim167> how do i install Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem on ubuntu ?
[02:20] <Five_star> is there a way I can do that from terminal instead? because I have irssi running to get to here xD
[02:20] <barata> supported by whom?
[02:20] <ikonia> ubuntu support
[02:20] <barata> ohh ... ic
[02:20] <ikonia> eg: this channel
[02:20] <barata> are you with ubuntu ikonia
[02:20] <ikonia> nope
[02:20] <barata> well, honestly this channel is useless
[02:20] <magic-llama> is there anything open source like flash that actually works? [it can export to a .gif or mpeg or whatever, i don't need sound, i don't really care about most features :) just basic vector animation stuff] 
[02:20] <barata> for newbie maybe
[02:21] <ikonia> then leave
[02:21] <barata> I will, I just wonder about that ultimate thing
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> barata: why do you think the channel is uselss?
[02:21] <christophe> Five_star: You could use the ubuntu alternate disk. That would give you a direct install, without loading the livedisk.
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> I've learned a ton here
[02:21] <ikonia> barata: if you're not a "newbie" then you should be able to read the website and understand
[02:21] <Five_star> christophe: :( I just downloaded this
[02:21] <barata> too many newbies question
[02:21] <Five_star> christophe: I don't wanna download it again
[02:21] <ikonia> yes that is true - but there are other channels
[02:22] <barata> but anyway, this is a place for wannabes & newbies
[02:22] <comosicus> paradroid how it's working?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> barata: oh.. i understand, ikonia is helping you.... ;)
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Got the account set up.
[02:22] <Five_star> xD
[02:22] <elkbuntu> barata, if you know so much, you should be able to help out then :)
[02:22] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: pardon ?
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Sorry, I had to think a lot to remember my password. ;)
[02:22] <barata> I can
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Long time I used the Yahoo account.
[02:22] <comosicus> :)
[02:22] <predaeus> christophe, so it only started to be like that now. It has not been always like that? Dont know if its a BIOS thing. Could also be the disk. Or maybe the GRUB install is somehow foobared.
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Anyway, so now...
[02:22] <christophe> Five_star: Try to burn th *.iso image again with 24x speed or lower.
[02:22] <ikonia> barata: you can what ?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: no offense at all, i twas just a colorful jab at how you never handhold newbies to an answer, just kinda nudge them
[02:22] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: he claimes he's not a newbie
[02:22] <Five_star> christophe: I burnt it at 1x and verified it
[02:22] <comosicus> yesss
[02:23] <paradroid> comosicus: You want to add a buddy and then ...
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: your advice is always spot on, it just makes me laugh when i watch you help people
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: so he won't be needing my help
[02:23] <barata> I can help if I happen to around when a question is shot
[02:23] <Five_star> christophe: I'm used to doing these things, which surprised me when this didn't work
[02:23] <christophe> Five_star: Ok ;)
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol, well you're definitely no use to him then..lol
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: not a problem, I just didn't get it
[02:23] <comosicus> that's all
[02:23] <comosicus> i want
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: the gag went over my head, I see what your ribbing me on
[02:23] <barata> so, what is the advanced problem of the day today?
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: yeah, sometimes a chatroom doesn't relay my humor well.
[02:23] <Five_star> lemme try this one more time
[02:24] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: I'm laughing now that I get it
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:24] <barata> how to crack windows using Ubuntu?
[02:24] <ikonia> :D
[02:24] <Five_star> lol
[02:24] <barata> anybody wanna know?
[02:24] <ikonia> barata: no, we're not interested
[02:24] <elkbuntu> barata, that attitude is not welcome here.
[02:24] <christophe> Five_star: Try a new installation and make a partition at the end of the disk, skipping the place where you could have a HD-problem.
[02:24] <jussi01> !offtopic | barata
[02:24] <ubotu> barata: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:24] <Five_star> barata: only a noob would use another os to crack windows, windows doesn't need any help to hack itself
[02:24] <jin> hi
[02:24] <barata> oh man ... please ...
[02:25] <ultra> barata, go away
[02:25] <aglIV> ikonia: /dev/hda5 is windows
[02:25] <paradroid> Five_star: LOL
[02:25] <Five_star> barata: you of all people should know about the neat new bios emulation hack
[02:25] <ikonia> aglIV: then that looks spot on
[02:25] <jin> when moving windows around, it leaves traces behind for half a second. any way to fix that?
[02:25] <jin> does that occur to your desktop too?
[02:25] <barata> oh yeah, it sucks
[02:25] <ghatak> Hi, i installed artwiz fonts but they do not show up when i try to set Gnome Terminal fonts, i have checked and the fonts are in  /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc dir. the path is in xorg.conf, What do i have to do to get these fonts working ?
[02:25] <barata> stay away from Vista
[02:25] <elkbuntu> Five_star, the same goes for you. no cracking talk.
[02:25] <aglIV> ikonia: spot on?
[02:25] <Five_star> barata: what do you think I'm installing ubuntu on top of? xD
[02:25] <ikonia> aglIV: yup hd0,4
[02:25] <paradroid> jin: You could activate the Reduced Ressources setting
[02:25] <golden> :P
[02:26] <ikonia> barata: this is a support channel, contibute or be quiet - its busy enough as it is
[02:26] <paradroid> jin: That will give you the frame of the windows when moving but not the contents
[02:26] <jin> paradroid, r heard of that. tell me more plz
[02:26] <barata> I dont know, I just run linux only
[02:26] <christophe> predaeus: Hmmm.... Maybe I will try SuperGrub. It might help ...
[02:26] <aglIV> ikonia: let me tell you what I did....
[02:26] <barata> nope
[02:26] <ikonia> aglIV: ok
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> barata: you may have more luck finding people of your skill level in #ubuntu-experts
[02:26] <jin> paradroid, how do I do that?
[02:26] <paradroid> jin: Run gconf-editor
[02:26] <barata> you must use a windoz booter
[02:26] <barata> for dual booting
[02:26] <Five_star> christophe: it's giving me an sda buffer error at a random block every time
[02:27] <Five_star> christophe: wait! It decided to work this time!
[02:27] <barata> and dont encrypt your vista
[02:27] <jin> paradroid, then?
[02:27] <paradroid> jin: Then navigate to apps >metacity
[02:27] <ikonia> barata: please give the windows chat a rest, this is a busy channel
[02:27] <Hobbsee> !ettiquite | barata
[02:27] <Five_star> christophe: I'm going to go with: The fact that I was in #ubuntu while I tried to install it forced it to work. :)
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ettiquite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <paradroid> jin: Expand and choose the "general" section
[02:27] <Hobbsee> !guidelines | barata
[02:27] <ubotu> barata: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:27] <barata> oh ... I dont need your help at all
[02:28] <barata> bye all
[02:28] <christophe> Five_star: Yeah ;)
[02:28] <paradroid> jin: There you will find the "Reduced Resources" checkbox which you might want to check ;)
[02:28] <Hobbsee> thanks elkbuntu
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> poor fella
[02:28] <jin> paradroid, does that effect occur on your desktop too?
[02:28] <Five_star> christophe: maybe this hdd is on it's way out, I hope so, then I can yell at western digital until they give me steep discounts on their new 500gb drives
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> but i request that he not be allowed to invade off-topic either..lol
[02:28] <ikonia> thank you
[02:28] <aglIV> ikonia g0su this is what happened... I wanted to use the same fat16 partition for both windows and linux booting -> hda1
[02:28] <paradroid> jin: The trail of moved windows? No. I just thought the reduced resources might help.
[02:28] <ikonia> aglIV: you can't do that
[02:29] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, if he does he will meet o4o
[02:29] <Five_star> heh
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: lol
[02:29] <g0su> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8584/
[02:29] <jin> paradroid, it does here. what do you think is the problem?
[02:29] <aglIV> ikonia g0su then installed windows and then when trying to install ubuntu i messed everything up
[02:29] <Five_star> heh
[02:29] <aglIV> ikonia:  yes i figured that out
[02:29] <alitrix> hi, after shutting down my kubunt, I get: 'time-of-day clock stopped'
[02:29] <jin> paradroid, any way to test my nvidia card with the current driver?
[02:29] <ikonia> aglIV: ahh good
[02:29] <Five_star> why not just use two partitons?
[02:29] <paradroid> jin: Sounds like the window manager needs too much system resources. Do you run on old hardware?
[02:29] <alitrix> can't get mine Dell laptop started anymore
[02:30] <jin> paradroid, nope
[02:30] <jin> os[Linux 2.6.15-28-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ @ 1.00GHz]  mem[Physical : 1519MB, 85.6% free]  disk[Total : 225.92GB, 36.60% Free]  video[10de:01df]  sound[NFORCE - Intel ICH] 
[02:30] <alitrix> been sniffing around on google, and I noticed a lot of ubuntu users have seen this issue
[02:30] <paradroid> jin: But you do use Metacity.
[02:30] <elkbuntu> jin, please dont use /sysinfo here
[02:30] <frodew> Where can I find systemrestore in Ubuntu ? (doing a school-task) msg thx:)
[02:30] <jin> paradroid, there
[02:30] <aglIV> ikonia I somehow screwed up the data on hd1 becaus windows will no longer boot and grub doesn't (didn't) see windows...
[02:30] <comosicus> paradroid.........
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> alitrix: what seems to be the issue.
[02:31] <paradroid> comosicus: Yeah, go on. You need to tell me what happens when you want to add a buddy.
[02:31] <ikonia> aglIV: grub can't read ntfs partitions so you will get the "unknown" partition error
[02:31] <alitrix> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149565
[02:31] <paradroid> comosicus: I'll try to reproduce.
[02:31] <alitrix> i'm having the same issues as these ppl
[02:31] <aglIV> ikonia g0su so now I need to fix some stuff
[02:31] <comosicus> k
[02:31] <ikonia> aglIV: I see
[02:31] <alitrix> and it looks like I've to open my laptop and remove the BIOS battery
[02:31] <paradroid> jin: What is your graphic card driver?
[02:31] <aglIV> so how do I boot windows?
[02:31] <aglIV> ikonia: boot windows?
[02:31] <alitrix> I'm afraid to break the front-end of the laptop, when opening it
[02:31] <frodew> :p
[02:31] <jin> paradroid, nvidia
[02:32] <comosicus> my gaime it's says that the buddy is not on a server list
[02:32] <jin> nvidia               4551028  12
[02:32] <ikonia> aglIV: have a read up on the chainloader option
[02:32] <jin> agpgart                34888  1 nvidia
[02:32] <tim167> does anyone know how to install an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem on ubuntu ?
[02:32] <nomin> jin: I'm using the nvidia driver from nvidia's site right now, although I'm currently on a different distro.
[02:32] <paradroid> jin: Do glxgears run smooth for you?
[02:32] <Ferret> aglIV: usually just title windows  /  chainload (hd0,1)+1
[02:33] <jussi01> tim167, usbmodems can be quite hard to get running
[02:33] <Ferret> aglIV: With the correct device (usually hd0,0 == hda1, hd1,1 == hdb2, etc..
[02:33] <jin> paradroid, how do you define smooth?
[02:33] <aglIV> Ferret: for c:/Windows?
[02:33] <comosicus> where it is wrinting online or offline  in my gaime it's says not on a server list
[02:33] <Ferret> aglIV: yah.
[02:33] <paradroid> jin: Good question. Just from the visual impression. Wanted to rule out that there might be something wrong with acceleration.
[02:33] <nomin> jin: all I need to do on my 32-bit system is uninstall the current nvidia driver, download the file from nvidias site, exit X, then open the installer as root in a vitual terminal.
[02:34] <tim167> jussi01: that's what i suspected...but still i have to try it
[02:34] <aglIV> Ferret hda5
[02:34] <nomin> *virtual terminal
[02:34] <jin> nomin, ok, I'm gonna try it then
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: So I just added you (using this nick) to my buddy list.
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: It told me also you were not on the server list, then I querried your info
[02:34] <jin> nomin, do you need the kernel source/header files?
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: Now you show up fine.
[02:35] <jin> paradroid, I don't think it's smooth
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> I'm running Dual Displays, which is awesome, but i just found something I don't like.  Each monitor has its own desktop, I can only have firefox open on one desktop, if I try to open it on the other, i get a Firefox is already running, close the existing process, or restart(gag)... anyway to make firefox run in multiple sessions?
[02:35] <nomin> jin: oh yeah, I've needed the kernel source package as well.  The driver needs it to configure itself properly.
[02:35] <jussi01> jin you may want to use envy
[02:35] <aglIV> Ferret: menu.lst excerpt :title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[02:35] <aglIV> root		(hd0,4)
[02:35] <aglIV> savedefault
[02:35] <aglIV> makeactive
[02:35] <aglIV> chainloader	+1
[02:35] <jussi01> !envy | jin
[02:35] <ubotu> jin: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:35] <jin> jussi01, what's envy?
[02:35] <paradroid> paradroid: OK, then you seem to have driver issues.nomin was talking about installing drivers, right?
[02:35] <nomin> jin: the kernel source is usually a big package so you'll need to spend some time downloading it.
[02:35] <comosicus> i know that other people can add me but the problem is that i can't add other people
[02:36] <ompaul> aglIV, can you use a pastebin for that stuff - more than two lines is a flood
[02:36] <aglIV> Ferret ikonia so what's the deal?
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what service are you trying to configure with GAIM/.. sounds like its not configured correctly
[02:36] <comosicus> no sounds
[02:37] <aglIV> ompaul: normally I would... thought 5 wasn't worth it...
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: do you have sound in other apps?
[02:37] <ompaul> aglIV, it is :)
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: does your sound work with other apps?
[02:38] <comosicus> apps?!!!
[02:38] <nomin> jin: also, when you update the kernel, (which ubuntu does automatically every now and then), you'll probably need to download the kernel source for that new kernel and reinstall the nvidia driver again.
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: applications, can you open, say a music application like XMMS, and play a sound file
[02:38] <comosicus> aaaaaaaaa
[02:38] <jin> nomin, I'm going to run envy now
[02:38] <jin> brb
[02:38] <comosicus> not all aplication
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: huh?
[02:39] <comosicus> just some
[02:39] <nomin> hmmm...I don't think people need scripts like envy for installing the nvidia driver.
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> do you get sound when you start ubuntu, the little humming africans or the bongo drums?
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> nomin: whats envy?
[02:39] <comosicus> my upgrade is not full
[02:39] <jussi01> !envy | IndyGunFreak
[02:39] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: you're not making any sense
[02:39] <nomin> IndyGunFreak: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:39] <AMD->  IndyGunFreak: thast a good sound gets me so exited
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: lol, no comment
[02:40] <nomin> maybe envy can be good but I've heard that the scripts that are supposed to make things super easy also cause problems.
[02:40] <comosicus> but what in the hell have to do with my problem
[02:40] <jussi01> nomin, envy is a great script
[02:41] <comosicus> i cant add buddy to my gaim list
[02:41] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: so that's what that is? humming africans?
[02:41] <comosicus> that is my problem
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: well, first we can't distinguish wether its your PC or GAIM
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: i think so.
[02:41] <comosicus> is gaim
[02:41] <Five_star> comosicus: why not go to the gaim support channel?
[02:41] <nomin> jussi01: does envy set up everything for ATI's?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: they prolly threw him out.
[02:41] <jussi01> nomin, yes it does
[02:41] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: lol, so they recorded humming africans?
[02:41] <comosicus> becouse some buddy work fine
[02:41] <comosicus> :)
[02:41] <aglIV> Ferret: ikonia: still with me?
[02:42] <nomin> jussi01: sounds like a good deal.
[02:42] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: they like, flew to africa and got some of them to hum, then recorded it?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: well, maybe they simulated it...
[02:42] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: hehehe
[02:42] <jussi01> comosicus, have you got see offline buddies on?
[02:42] <Five_star> alright, ubuntu installed, time for the restart
[02:42] <AMD-> IndyGunFreak:you must have a different sound from me then
[02:42] <jussi01> nomin, you always know its a good one when the bot doesnt do this:
[02:42] <jussi01> !automatix
[02:42] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: just about everything i have is different from everyone else it seems..lol
[02:43] <nomin> heh
[02:43] <Also> hello!
[02:43] <AMD->  IndyGunFreak: no comment
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: lo
[02:44] <jussi01> !hi | Also
[02:44] <ubotu> Also: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:44] <Ferret> It wants you to reboot when done
[02:44] <Also> could anyone tell me how i can get my "linksys wireles g notebook adapter" working?
[02:44] <comosicus> almoust all my buddy's work fine.......i can see them add them erased them and add again if i whant but i have 2 buddy that doesnt work
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Also
[02:44] <ubotu> Also: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <Also> ok thanks!
[02:44] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux
[02:44] <Ferret> aglIV: I'd say remove every line apart from the title and have: chainloader (hd0,4)+1
[02:44] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux in ubuntu
[02:45] <jussi01> !patience | berent
[02:45] <ubotu> berent: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:45] <comosicus> where it sopoused to show if it is online or offline it show's :this is not on a server list
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: well then something says youve not configured it wrong.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> i mean configured it right
[02:46] <eyalw> hi
[02:46] <berent> I am patient will anyone help this patient!!!
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> !hi | eyalw
[02:46] <eyalw> how do i open the formula bar in OpenDocument, ? ???
[02:46] <ubotu> eyalw: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:46] <comosicus> when i click info on bad buddys it says :that language is not suported yet
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: i have no idea, you might try the gaim support channel... i have no issues at all with GAIM.
[02:47] <aglIV> Ferret: will that compensate for the faulty hd1?
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what services are you trying to use with GAIM?
[02:47] <comosicus> yahoo
[02:47] <eyalw> how do i open the formula bar in OpenDocument, ? ????
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, my yahoo account is working fine.
[02:47] <tkp> Hi
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: have you ever tried kopete?
[02:48] <Ferret> aglIV: I thought windows was on hda5?
[02:48] <tkp> I'm trying to use update-manager to upgrade mt Dapper to Edgy
[02:48] <Ferret> aglIV: What's on the second hard drive?
[02:48] <comosicus> no becouse i whant to solve that
[02:48] <tkp> I'm running it as `gksu "update-manager -c"`
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what version of GAIM?
[02:48] <jamyskis> who should i go to if the NickServ is rejecting my password for whatever reason?
[02:48] <tkp> but The button which allows you to upgrade seems to be missing
[02:49] <tkp> all I can do is check for package updates
[02:49] <Skew-> firefox question: is there a way to increase/decrease the font sizes for just 1 website?
[02:49] <aglIV> Ferret: this is what happened... I wanted to use the same fat16 partition for both windows and linux booting -> hda1
[02:49] <berent> I am patient will anyone help this patient!!!
[02:49] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux in ubuntu
[02:49] <berent> SQLJ???
[02:49] <comosicus> v1.5.1cvs
[02:49] <aglIV> Ferret /windows is hda5
[02:49] <tkp> Apparently there should be a little bit at the top of the window that says "New distribution release is available"
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, well that should be the stable version.
[02:49] <comosicus> there is a gaime suport channel?
[02:49] <tkp> with a button saying "upgrade"
[02:49] <tkp> but it's not there
[02:50] <jussi01> !repeat
[02:50] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> !gaim
[02:50] <Ferret> aglIV: So hda1 is /boot?
[02:50] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:50] <tkp> what am I supposed to do to get this option??
[02:50] <paradroid> comosicus: What version of Gaim do you use?
[02:50] <aglIV> Ferret: but boot is /hd1 and on installing ubuntu I messed everything up...
[02:50] <berent> !sqlj
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: 1.5  so he's using the stable version
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sqlj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <comosicus> v1.5.1cvs
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: it has to be something you've configured wrong
[02:50] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: OK.
[02:51] <paradroid> comosicus: What is the server you are trying to connect to?
[02:51] <Pelo> !java
[02:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:51] <aglIV> Ferret: perhaps you could counsolt with ikonia or g0su... and I'll be back in 15 min
[02:51] <soundray> berent: you can ask all day long -- if nobody knows your answer, you won't get any. Logical?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: now i have read some reports on other forums about Yahoo having several outtages this weekend(I've had no probs though)
[02:51] <paradroid> comosicus: scs.yahoo.com or scs.msg.yahoo.com
[02:51] <Pelo> !flash
[02:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <tkp> anyone??
[02:51] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> tkp: keep your question on one line, its hard to follow one person with so much going on in here
[02:52] <soundray> !upgrade > tkp, read your pm please
[02:52] <Ferret> aglIV: well, I would suggest trying the second post from this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[02:52] <tkp> soundray: I have read that
[02:52] <tkp> and am doing what it say... "gksu update-manager -c "
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:53] <paradroid> tkp: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[02:53] <tkp> paradroid: it doesn't say that
[02:53] <tkp> what is -d?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> tkp: lol, he's tryng to help you and you're questioning his help
[02:53] <soundray> tkp: listen to paradroid, and try without the quotes -- they appear to be the wrong ones from your line
[02:54] <paradroid> tkp: The switches tell the regular update manager to check for beta upgrades. This is necessary even when Edgy is out of beta, in order to upgrade from one version to the next.
[02:54] <tkp> -d made no difference
[02:54] <tkp> gksu "update-manager -c -d
[02:54] <tkp> and I tried without the quotes
[02:54] <Udi> hi
[02:55] <paradroid> tkp: Did you run a "Check" (update sources) again?
[02:55] <soundray> tkp: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get update-manager'
[02:55] <AMD-> can any one help me with this ------------>Xerox:~# irw
[02:55] <AMD-> connect: Connection refused
[02:55] <soundray> tkp: sry 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install update-manager'
[02:55] <Pelo> AMD-,  what are you trying to do ?
[02:55] <venik> does anyone know how to install the NVIDIA drivers for geoforce 400?
[02:56] <jussi01> !envy | venik
[02:56] <ubotu> venik: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:56] <venik> the ENVY script did some damage, so I would like to stay away from it
[02:56] <tkp> soundray: I have the packages already
[02:56] <AMD-> Pelo: get my mce remote to work
[02:56] <alitrix> a/w 48
[02:56] <ohir> interesting.. such f*g unneeded thingy as flash9 was backported to dapper, postgres 8.2 you need to backport yourself :/
[02:56] <soundray> tkp: just do it PLEASE
[02:56] <tkp> soundray: I did!
[02:56] <jussi01> venik, what did it do?
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol
[02:57] <paradroid> tkp: There is a very nice how-to for the upgrading process here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[02:57] <tkp> and yes, I did run the check for updates
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> crdlb: have a nice nap?
[02:57] <venik> it messed around with the restricted modules of the kernel, and in the end I have no access to the NVIDIA settings
[02:57] <crdlb> IndyGunFreak, yes
[02:57] <tkp> paradroid: I know.... Thats' what I'm following
[02:57] <soundray> tkp: have you updated ubuntu-desktop as well?
[02:57] <paradroid> tkp: Oh. Sorry.
[02:57] <kdrlx> coming over from ArchLinux and happy with ubuntu on laptop .. everything works .. hibernate, suspend everything .. this is nice
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> kdrlx: give it time,. something will break. :)
[02:58] <venik> I am even thinking of reinstalling Ubuntu, but perhaps it is best to wait for the next version
[02:58] <kdrlx> i hope not :) but then again .. arch taught me too much ... :)
[02:58] <jussi01> venik, if you can, wait
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> venik: next version isn't due till july i think
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> or maybe april
[02:58] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: April
[02:58] <tkp> I can't install ubuntu-desktop... broken packages
[02:58] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: 19.04.
[02:58] <comosicus> look on https://launchpad.net/gaim in the bottom of the page  #71326: yahoo contacts "not in the server list" while they are that is my problem but i dont know what it means
[02:58] <comosicus> heloooo
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: i thought it was 7.04... so i couldn't remember which number signified the month..
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> obvioiusly though, the second does
[02:59] <venik> the thing works, but I would like to get to the NVIDIA settings
[02:59] <soundray> venik: the next release is planned for 19 April. You can help test it now -- /join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[02:59] <fortran01> hi, is there a GUI for setting up Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) in Ubuntu?
[02:59] <comosicus> please
[02:59] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: ;)
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: it seems awful unstable for only being a month out.
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> i've not used it, i just see a lot of folks posting probs.
[02:59] <soundray> fortran01: yes, firestarter
[02:59] <venik> I am afraid I am too new on Ubuntu to be a tester
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: after the 17hr adventure i had setting up dual monitors, i don't think i'm ever gonna upgrade from Edgy...lol
[02:59] <comosicus> please
[02:59] <soundray> fortran01: although it claims to configure firewalls, it manages that as well
[02:59] <venik> I first installed it in November
[03:00] <d0dge> I've tried textbased messenger, browser (lynx), anything else fun & worth of trying? :)
[03:00] <bjames> I've just installed Ubuntu via a live CD and now the PC fails to accept the drives on boot - "INVALID SYSTEM DISK...", now I've checked the BIOS and they are set to "auto", however the motherboard is quite old (PIII 450MHz) and the drives are fairly large (40GB and 160GB) - does anyone have any insight?
[03:00] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: Oh boy...
[03:00] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: I don't know if I'll upgrade. Right now things are running so smoothly here...
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: thing is, i got it working in about 45min, but i couldn't get it how i wanted, thrashed xorg.conf about 50x..lol
[03:01] <comosicus> anybody heard me?
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: yeah, i agree... i'll wait a month or so to upgrade
[03:01] <fortran01> thanks soundray
[03:01] <soundray> bjames: somehow, the grub boot loader installation has failed. Follow the instructions for when Windows has overwritten grub (pm from ubotu)
[03:01] <soundray> !grub > bjames
[03:01] <bjames> the BIOS sits at the autodetect stage
[03:01] <venik> my main (only?) problem has been the support foor the NVIDIA card, which is an old card
[03:01] <egon> hi all
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> venik: i think legacy drivers are in the repos.. is eem to recall seeing them there
[03:02] <comosicus>  <IndyGunFreak>   <paradroid>  someoane
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: whats wrong now?
[03:02] <bjames> soundray: Can I ask a stupid question - what does that syntax mean? "!grub > bjames"?
[03:02] <bjames> I should joib grub?
[03:02] <comosicus> look on https://launchpad.net/gaim in the bottom of the page  #71326: yahoo contacts "not in the server list" while they are that is my problem but i dont know what it means
[03:02] <soundray> bjames: it instructs the bot to send you a message
[03:02] <comosicus> please
[03:02] <Pelo> bbl
[03:02] <Jowi> bjames, it could be that if you have more than one disk in your system, their order in the bios might have been switched. that can give you that error.
[03:02] <paradroid> comosicus: I'm reading it right now.. a second, please
[03:02] <tkp> I'm really stuck. It checks for new packages, then examines my system, and then thats it
[03:02] <comosicus> k
[03:02] <comosicus> thank's
[03:02] <tkp> no window pops up saying there is a new distribution available... no upgeade button
[03:03] <bjames> soundray - it doesn't appear to do anything special
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: doesn't look like they've came up with a solution yet
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> it appears the problem is GAIM
[03:03] <soundray> bjames: pardon?
[03:03] <comosicus> aha
[03:03] <bjames> soundray: the message you sent doesn't appear any different than any other message
[03:03] <Jowi> bjames, set the boot drive as primary master, the other as primary slave or secondary master
[03:04] <paradroid> comosicus: I can only second IndyGunFreak. One work-around seems to be to add those buddies using the "official" client.
[03:04] <tkp> it just says my system is up to date
[03:04] <deadeyes> hey guys, I delete accidentally a gnome bar... now I can't see the updates button anymore... also, when I start apps with wine, I get an extra window opened instead that it gets put in the system tray
[03:04] <tkp> which it aint!
[03:04] <bjames> jowi: they are
[03:04] <egon> I have workign ubuntu, and I got working sound, the problem is that I have build in laptop speekers and plug for headspeekers, and the thing is that sound plays in the speekers and headspeekers at the same time, any sugetsion there to go/read?
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: I'm using Gaim 2.0.0beta3.1 and i've had no probs with yahoo..
[03:04] <comosicus> so what shoud i do?
[03:04] <soundray> bjames: look for a place on your screen where you can access private messages
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: my suggestion, since it will be in the repos, not need compiled, etc.. is to install kopete
[03:04] <Jowi> bjames, no, i mean: make sure that the disks physically have that switch.
[03:04] <also_> i didnt get that darm wlan working :/
[03:05] <Jowi> brb
[03:05] <bjames> jowi: they are hardware jumpers - can't get any more sure than that
[03:05] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: ;) But maybe indeed an alternative client will solve that problem for the time being...
[03:05] <jussi01> also_, what went wrong?
[03:05] <bjames> jowi: plus I took the drives from a working windows machine - it's also booted windows in this configuration
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: i think so, looks ike its a gaim issue.. I'm not having any issues at all though with Yahoo via gaim 2.0.0 b3.1
[03:05] <soundray> tkp: I recommend that you scroll down and follow the "NOT RECOMMENDED" instructions
[03:05] <comosicus> god ideea but then i have to reques pending again from all my buddy's?
[03:05] <VeryBritish> Hi, just installed ubunto in new partition. Problem: I only get 2 transverse lines iso the desktop, no way to interact. (Samsung M50 Notebook with widescreen). Any ideas?
[03:05] <Jowi> bjames, very good. then double check the bios settings boot order.
[03:06] <also_> dont know.. I did exactly what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking that site sayd :/
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> looks like several in that list though, have had that problem
[03:06] <bjames> soundray: I'm using trillian
[03:06] <bjames> jowi: as I said it's stumbling on the autodetect
[03:06] <soundray> !grub | bjames
[03:06] <ubotu> bjames: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <bjames> jowi: not got the boot stage yet
[03:06] <unimatrix9> hello all
[03:06] <jamyskis> ok - rephrased question - how can i get hold of an irc.ubuntu.com admin?
[03:06] <paradroid> comosicus: I am not sure, they should be stored on the server along with their permissions.
[03:06] <jussi01> !hi | unimatrix9
[03:06] <ubotu> unimatrix9: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:06] <bjames> ubotu: it's falling over far beofre that
[03:07] <ikonia> aglIV: sorry I was on the phone
[03:07] <bjames> since ubuntu got it's hands on the drive
[03:07] <ikonia> got summond to the lab
[03:07] <jussi01> comosicus, have you tried reinstalling gaim?
[03:07] <soundray> bjames: follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:07] <bjames> maybe I should try a reinstall?
[03:07] <paradroid> comosicus: Actually, I would say yes. They should migrate.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: no, your buddies are on the server, you won't have to do any pending, etc.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> or at least i never have
[03:08] <bjames> soundray: I don't think this info is relevant
[03:08] <aglIV> soundray: ikonia g0su Ferret I'm back now... any ideas?
[03:08] <bjames> soundray: I'm going to try installing without the live CD booting
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[03:08] <soundray> bjames: PLEASE listen to me
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:09] <soundray> bjames: you've installed ubuntu, haven't you?
[03:09] <also_> tai jos joku vois suomeks opastaa tuon Wlanin laiton niin saattas onnistuu paremmin ^
[03:09] <Actarus> Hi
[03:09] <Actarus> need some help please
[03:09] <bjames> soundray: ok
[03:09] <Actarus> don`t know how to config WPA
[03:09] <Actarus> cant find any way
[03:09] <jussi01> !wpa
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <ikonia> aglIV: I've only just got back myself, I mised half of your problem. You've got grub set to boot hd0,4 as windows - what happens when you try to boot it
[03:09] <soundray> bjames: chances are that your installation is fine, except the bootloader.
[03:09] <comosicus> k
[03:09] <Actarus> ok tnaks
[03:09] <deadeyes> hey guys, I delete accidentally a gnome bar... now I can't see the updates button anymore... also, when I start apps with wine, I get an extra window opened instead that it gets put in the system tray
[03:09] <andytayloruk> hi. I've been having performance issues because of my graphics card and was wondering if lowering the colour depth from 24 to 16 would help..?
[03:09] <Actarus> thanks
[03:09] <unimatrix9> would it be possible to install metisse on ubuntu?
[03:09] <bjames> soundray: yes I booted the live CD and used the installer - now the BIOS disk detection does not find the hard drive. This is before the "proper" boot stage
[03:09] <soundray> bjames: so follow the instructions to recover grub
[03:10] <also_> ubotu, i did exactly what that site sayd but it doesnt work :/
[03:10] <comosicus> now i'm trying to understand how to install kopete
[03:10] <ikonia> comosicus: apt-get install kopete
[03:10] <ikonia> whats to understand
[03:10] <ryanakca> can someone please help me test KMail + GPG? (aka, I sign an email to you, and you tell me if it identified properly...)
[03:10] <bjames> soundray: ok - I'll take a look. I may be back here shortly
[03:10] <jussi01> deadeyes, right click on the existing bar and click add to panel
[03:10] <bjames> thanks
[03:10] <dazjorz> Hi
[03:10] <comosicus> i'll let you know for any problems that i might find
[03:10] <comosicus> k?
[03:10] <soundray> bjames: sec
[03:11] <venik> should we use APTITUDE in all the places where it says apt-get?
[03:11] <Jowi> bjames, (i was thinking the bios autodetection should still detect the drives... make sure that the master disk is connected at the end of the ide cable.)
[03:11] <dazjorz> Is there any way to bind a key combination to a command (I'd like to bind Super+L to lock screen, since I'm used to Win+L to screen lock)
[03:11] <jussi01> venik, you can it is a good idea
[03:11] <bjames> jowi: I was thinking it should do as well
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: kopete will likely solve your problem
[03:11] <comosicus> i have ubuntu for several days my dear
[03:11] <unimatrix9> ubuntu and metisse desktop, does it work?
[03:11] <aglIV> soundray: ikonia g0su Ferret: trying to boot windows from a dospromt doesn't work either because I screwed up the boot data on hda1 when istalling ubuntu... so I think my best bet would be to reformat hda1 and get the necessar boot data for windows reinstalled...
[03:12] <comosicus> i'm virgin on that op system
[03:12] <deadeyes> jussi01, I know that, but I cant find anything for system tray icons
[03:12] <comosicus> :)
[03:12] <unimatrix9> !metisse
[03:12] <soundray> bjames: if you think that ubuntu detected your drives, but your BIOS doesn't, the fix may be different
[03:12] <ubotu> Metisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[03:12] <paradroid> comosicus: ;)
[03:12] <jussi01> dazjorz, you can do it in gconf-editor
[03:12] <venik> but almost all the sudo suggestions use apt-get
[03:12] <dazjorz> jussi01: okay, thanks :)
[03:12] <ikonia> aglIV: if you've messed up the data - you'll need to re-install windows
[03:12] <unimatrix9> can i install metisse on edgy?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: from looking at that link, it looks like that bug has been hanging around a bit, wonder why its not fixed yet
[03:12] <bjames> soundray: ubuntu detected them fine when booting from the live CD - it's just now that it's installed the mobo doesn't seem to be able to find the drive
[03:13] <soundray> bjames: are both drives on the same IDE channel?
[03:13] <jussi01> deadeyes, i think it is called notification error
[03:13] <bjames> soundray: yes
[03:13] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: I'm not really any wiser now after having read up on that... in one place someone suggests changing servers... in another it's about visibility of the contacts...
[03:13] <deadeyes> jussi01, ok, will search for that
[03:13] <soundray> bjames: have you set the jumpers so one of them is master, the other slave?
[03:13] <egon> I have build in laptop speekers and plug for headspeekers, and the thing is that sound plays in the speekers and headspeekers at the same time, any sugetsion there to go/read do about this bug?
[03:13] <venik> does anyone know why I cannot uninstall ngircd?  it keeps telling me that a preprocess failed
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: yeah,
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> iv'e just never had probs with gaim, seems they're quick to fix
[03:14] <bjames> soundray: yes - as I said windows was booting fine.  One of the drives had windows, the other files
[03:14] <venik> it is an irc server, which I had stopped before uninstalling
[03:14] <andytayloruk> ok, simpler question. How can I edit my xorg.conf because I get a readonly error at the moment.
[03:14] <bjames> soundray: I might try running the installer again - this time from the command line
[03:14] <venik> sudo su -
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> andytayloruk: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <andytayloruk> thankyou :)
[03:15] <soundray> bjames: I don't think it will make a difference -- there's something more low-level going on
[03:15] <venik> andy-- sudo su -
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> venik: whats that do?
[03:15] <soundray> bjames: I see the point you made earlier now and agree...
[03:15] <venik> it sets you as a supper user
[03:15] <bjames> soundray: That's what I thought initially
[03:15] <venik> or root
[03:15] <onats> where can i find the crtl.o file?
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> venik: oh ok... didnt know that, i just always use sudo.
[03:15] <soundray> bjames: is your ubuntu installation spread across both disks?
[03:15] <also_> miten saan tuon wlanin toimimaan kun ei toimi vaikka tein ohjeitten mukaan kaiken?
[03:15] <bjames> soundray: I don't think so
[03:16] <andytayloruk> do changes come into effect to xorg.conf after i restart x?
[03:16] <click_> test
[03:16] <bjames> soundray: I think it's only touched the smaller drive (as I told it)
[03:16] <bdina> anyone know what I need to do to enable HT on an P4?  I have read a bit about it and it looks like all I need to do is add a line to my grub conf ht=on.... I think I should see multiple processors when I look at /proc/cpuinfo or top -- I dont...
[03:16] <venik> I used Krosader under KDE, which has a very nice LOCATE command
[03:16] <deadeyes> jussi01, it was something with notification... :D found and solved :D thanks!
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> andytayloruk: i think so..
[03:16] <andytayloruk> k thanx
[03:16] <jussi01> venik, it isnt usually reccommended to use sudo su - sudo does the job
[03:16] <paradroid> venik: IndyGunFreak Going SuperUser might be problematic if you forget to exit that state again and stay su all day...
[03:16] <soundray> bjames: I would try disconnecting the bigger disk and see if that gets accepted if it's the only one
[03:16] <CBunny> bdina, are you using an SMP kernel?
[03:16] <paradroid> venik: IndyGunFreak sudo is nicer for it only grants administrative rights for the job at hand.
[03:16] <bjames> soundray: I was just going to suggest that
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: like i said, i never even knew it existed...  sudo works for me
[03:16] <also_> how i can get my wlan working? i did exactly what that site sayd but it doesnt work :/
[03:17] <bjames> soundray: I'll give it a go
[03:17] <soundray> bjames: if grub installed to the other one, the RecoveringGrub... instructions would again apply
[03:17] <bdina> I am using 6.10, from what I understand the SMP is built into the default kernel... ??
[03:17] <soundray> bjames: hope you can fix it
[03:17] <click_> Is there a way to alllow root logon?
[03:17] <soundray> bdina: that's right
[03:17] <soundray> click_: there is, but it's completely and utterly not recommended.
[03:17] <bdina> soundray: maybe I need to check my bios then?
[03:17] <aglIV> ikonia: but only the data on hda1.... windows is installed in hda5....
[03:17] <paradroid> Oh, for a change and since I don't seem to help anyone today... a question.
[03:17] <`nicola> when I rigt-click on a task in the taskbar the first option is move to another workspace/move to the right workspace/always on top/ and then *close* ! the most frequent thing I do when I right click on an a tab in the taskbar is close how can I rearrange the menu ?
[03:17] <paradroid> Is there an alternative to cups-pdf to create PDFs from any application?
[03:18] <CBunny> bdina, if you're after security you should probably leave HT disabled
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> click_: yeah... you log in as root, and your system is compromised, they can do whatever they want.. this is one of hte big issues with Windows
[03:18] <ikonia> aglIV: whats hda1 ?
[03:18] <soundray> bdina: yes, it may be disabled there
[03:18] <aglIV> ikonia... windows boot
[03:18] <onats> what package is equivalent to glibc-devel? i need to compile programs from source, and it doesn't work
[03:18] <bdina> CBunny: nah, security is not a concern on this desktop
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> click_: what are you doin that needs root access?
[03:18] <ikonia> aglIV: there is no such thing as windows boot - windows boots from its c drive
[03:18] <click_> I'd only use root offline.....it's for config purposes
[03:18] <dazjorz> jussi01: do you have any howto on how to set a key combination for locking or could you tell me how to do it? I did find some settings on locking in the config editor, but not a quick key
[03:18] <bdina> soundray: I should see my system as having multiple procs right?
[03:18] <aglIV> ikonia: not if c is only 20mb
[03:18] <CBunny> bdina, does /proc/cpuinfo only show one cpu?
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> click_: ok
[03:19] <bdina> CBunny: yup.  only 1 (proc 0)
[03:19] <soundray> bdina: yes
[03:19] <`nicola> when I rigt-click on a task in the taskbar the first option is move to another workspace/move to the right workspace/always on top/ and then *close* ! the most frequent thing I do when I right click on an a tab in the taskbar is close. how can I rearrange the menu ?
[03:19] <ikonia> aglIV: that doesn't make any sense
[03:19] <aglIV> ikonia: why not?
[03:19] <CBunny> bdina, check your BIOS
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> click_: how long you been in this room?
[03:19] <click_> the first thing i found was to create a directory off of /
[03:19] <click_> about 30 seconds
[03:19] <bdina> CBunny: right... Im gonna reboot and check it out... thanks!
[03:19] <paradroid> `nicola: Good question. I don't think there is an easy way to achieve that.
[03:20] <ikonia> aglIV: windows doesn't boot from a seperate data set, it boots really one file, ntldr
[03:20] <ikonia> so whats on hda1
[03:20] <soundray> click_: use 'sudo mkdir /newdir' -- it'll ask for your root password
[03:20] <`nicola> thanks for the answer paradroid  on ##gnome  none took care about my question
[03:20] <soundray> click_: use 'sudo mkdir /newdir' -- it'll ask for your USER password (sry)
[03:20] <onats> can anyone help me? i'm having problems compiling a program from source...
[03:20] <jussi01> dazjorz, Im sorry, i cant quite remember where it is, there is a section for mapping keys though
[03:20] <paradroid> `nicola: You're welcome. I think the context menu is coded into the window manager.
[03:21] <click_> And how does onew go about setting a root password
[03:21] <soundray> onats: what are you compiling and why?
[03:21] <aglIV> ikonia, I don't know... I always assumed something like a dynamic boot link to the "real" boot partition
[03:21] <onats> soundray, CVS..
[03:21] <paradroid> `nicola: There should be some way to be able to reconfigure that, though.
[03:21] <soundray> click_: use sudo please
[03:21] <bjames> soundray: I think it might be my old motherboard that's causing the problems - as I booted from the CD to install it didn't need to know about the drives, but now it's trying to autodetect them I think it's falling over as they are too big for it
[03:21] <dazjorz> jussi01: Yes, I found keybindings, but there isn't anything for screen locking
[03:21] <soundray> bjames: BIOS update? (small hope)
[03:21] <onats> soundray, i'm compiling it coz it seems that it doesn't have a compiled version ready for download
[03:21] <also_> help somebody! why my linksys wlan notebook adapter card doesnt work! i did exactly what ubunty help site sayd but it doesnt work :/
[03:22] <minimec> Hi. I just realized that my MasterVolume is for internal speaker and the 'audio out' is recognized as Headphone. Is there a way to configure that? 'dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base' did not do it.
[03:22] <bjames> soundray: it's quite an old motherboard unfortunately
[03:22] <jussi01> dazjorz, are you looking in gconf-editor?
[03:22] <soundray> !info csv | onats
[03:22] <ubotu> onats: Package csv does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:22] <bjames> soundray: I'm going to try a fresh install with just the OS drive plugged in
[03:22] <aglIV> ikonia: windows was just installed and I think it would be the eaisiest to just reinstall as long as it doesn't mess with ubuntu....?
[03:22] <bjames> (and CD ROM)
[03:22] <soundray> !info cvs | onats
[03:22] <ubotu> onats: cvs: Concurrent Versions System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.12.13-3 (edgy), package size 1607 kB, installed size 3528 kB
[03:22] <ikonia> aglIV: well it will remove the grub boot loader - but thats about it
[03:23] <aglIV> ikonia: why? it's on a different partition...
[03:23] <soundray> onats: install it from the repositories to save you pain and trouble
[03:23] <jussi01> dazjorz, you need to type gconf-editor in terminal
[03:23] <also_> jussi01, can you help me? why my linksys wlan notebook adapter card doesnt work! i did exactly what ubunty help site sayd but it doesnt work :/
[03:23] <jussi01> also_, what model linsys is it?
[03:23] <dazjorz> jussi01: I did
[03:24] <paradroid> dazjorz: What is the command for locking the screen?
[03:24] <aglIV> ikonia: windows /boot and Ubuntu /boot are two different partitions...
[03:24] <jussi01> dazjorz, found it now
[03:24] <also_> jussi01, it is wireles-g notebookadapter wpc54g version2
[03:24] <jussi01> in gconf-editor, go to apps->metacity
[03:24] <jussi01> also, be with you in a moment
[03:24] <aglIV> ikonia: should I list my fstab?
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:25] <ikonia> aglIV: no - I don't understand whats on windows /boot
[03:25] <also_> jussi01, ok
[03:25] <dazjorz> jussi01: I got it already :) Using beryl, set command 0 to 'xlock' and bound a key to command 0
[03:25] <dazjorz> :)
[03:25] <metalhedd> did java6 get pullled out of multiverse?  i saw forum posts saying it was in there for edgy but I dont see it.
[03:25] <jussi01> dazjorz, sorry, didnt realise you were using beryl
[03:25] <aglIV> ikonia: nothing important anyway....
[03:25] <dazjorz> jussi01: I never told you :)
[03:26] <ikonia> aglIV: I just don't see how you expect to have a windows boot partition but not a full install on it
[03:26] <rjale1> dear friends, I have just configured wpa_supplicant to connect to my secured WPA2-PSK wifi AP, I then use a script with ifconfig, route add to configure the statis address I need here at home. what is the "ubuntu" or a more elegant way of doing so ? basically I need this setup at home, a second setup with DHCP at work and a third setup at free wifi spots around town
[03:26] <ikonia> aglIV: I'd start again and keep it very simple
[03:26] <southafrikanse> I'm trying yo copy a file to /etc/wpasupplicant but I don't have permission what can I do?
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol
[03:26] <Mayas> hello all ... have been running ubuntu and been happy ..for most of the time
[03:26] <dazjorz> southafrikanse: put 'sudo' before 'cp'
[03:26] <rjale1> southafrikanse: sudo cp
[03:26] <raphael> hi all!
[03:27] <Mayas> if somebody has any clue abt the pblm i faced or faced similar problms.. 'll b happy to know ..
[03:27] <southafrikanse> 'm doing manually. How can I do it with the console?
[03:27] <Mayas> here it is
[03:27] <dazjorz> southafrikanse:  we just told you
[03:27] <raphael> question: is one of the servers down?
[03:27] <Mayas> 6.01 ltc [dapper drake]  installation CD got stuck
[03:27] <rjale1> southafikanse: sudo cp yourfile /etc/wpasupplicant
[03:27] <southafrikanse> What is the location to my desktop?
[03:27] <rjale1> sudo will ask for your userid password
[03:27] <dazjorz> southafrikanse: ~/Desktop
[03:27] <jussi01> also_, here are instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[03:28] <raphael> trying to do an "update-manager -c "   to upgrade from dapper to edgy but  it keeps telling me "system is up-to-date" ???
[03:28] <Mayas> this happened when i had told high and convinced one of my friends to install this .. and right at the timezone selection the installation hung
[03:28] <Mayas> i was embarassed
[03:28] <also_> jussi01, ok i try
[03:28] <andytayloruk> hi again
[03:28] <Mayas> the system has 256 mb ram
[03:28] <andytayloruk> how can I tell if DRI is working?
[03:28] <MrDevil> yesssss wowwwwwwwwww hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii looooooooooool :D
[03:28] <dazjorz> raphael: substitute dapper for edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run sudo apt-get update, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in console.
[03:28] <aglIV> ikonia: 2 points... 1st whatever was on hda1 when I erased it caused windows on hda4 to no longer load.  2. I've been running Windows with a seperat 20mb c:\boot and Windows in D:\ or E:\Windows for over 8 years on numberous systems...
[03:28] <Mayas> so .. this guy got pissed abt ubuntu and then settled with FC 6
[03:28] <rjale1> pointers to howto configure multiple wifi locations please
[03:28] <onats> soundray, overlooked that.. thanks:)
[03:29] <raphael> dazjorz: oh, I thought this would be the "non prefered way"
[03:29] <dazjorz> aglIV: 20 mb C:\boot? :|
[03:29] <metalhedd> did java6 get pullled out of multiverse?  i saw forum posts saying it was in there for edgy but I dont see it.
[03:29] <dazjorz> raphael: It might be, but I'm from Debian
[03:29] <aglIV> dazjorz: got a problem with it?
[03:29] <dazjorz> raphael: Ubuntu probably has a "more preferred way" for it, but I stick to the Debian ways.
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[03:30] <ikonia> aglIV: sound like your making it overcomplex
[03:30] <soundray> !info sun-java6-jdk | metalhedd, doesn't look like it...
[03:30] <ubotu> metalhedd, doesn't look like it...: sun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 9269 kB, installed size 31220 kB
[03:30] <ikonia> aglIV: how do you install windows to a boot partition but not install the OS
[03:30] <dazjorz> aglIV: NTFS can mount partitions to the filesystems, but Windows doesn't need a C:\boot nor is it able to mount non-Windows partitions
[03:30] <aglIV> ikonia: could be, but it always worked before....
[03:30] <dazjorz> aglIV: I think you mean /boot
[03:31] <metalhedd> ubotu: apt-cache search java6   No Results! I do definitely have mutliverse and iniverse enabled.
[03:31] <vox754> metalhedd, "aptitude search java"
[03:32] <nuked_omen> there is an ext2 driver for windows
[03:32] <aglIV> dazjorz: what I am refering to as c:\boot for a better lack of terms, is the 1st partition on my HD regardless of OS
[03:32] <onats> what's a good interface for CVS?
[03:32] <onats> gui i mean
[03:32] <dazjorz> aglIV:  You mean /dev/hda0
[03:32] <paradroid> metalhedd: I did a apt-cache search for "java6" and get results...
[03:32] <metalhedd> vox754: only java5 is inthere
[03:32] <dazjorz> aglIV: or how grub and others would call it (hd0,0)
[03:32] <metalhedd> paradroid: I dont.  im using the canadian serve,r could it be that far behind?
[03:33] <aglIV> dazjorz:  /dev/hda1 I think
[03:33] <vox754> metalhedd, "sudo aptitude update" to update the list of repositories and packages on it.
[03:33] <metalhedd> vox754: already did it
[03:33] <dazjorz> aglIV: Oh, yeah, it starts with 1.
[03:33] <aglIV> dazjorz: we green?
[03:33] <Data_> hi; I have a wifi problem with DLink 624; does anybody help?
[03:33] <paradroid> metalhedd: I see it's in the edgy backports..
[03:33] <dazjorz> aglIV: Yet, C:\boot is completely wrong ;)
[03:33] <Errpast1> Can anyone help me with the cups error log message
[03:33] <Errpast1> cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
[03:34] <vox754> metalhedd, I don't think java6 is mainstream right now, why do you need it? It should be available from source, I guess.
[03:34] <dazjorz> aglIV: Even because of C:\ doesn't have to be the first partition
[03:34] <aglIV> dazjorz: thanks for the clarification :)
[03:34] <phar0z> hi all, anyone has virtual hosts running on apache2 on ubuntu?
[03:34] <Errpast1> I have configured cupsd.conf to be wide open.  Allow all
[03:34] <paradroid> metalhedd: Do you have the backport section enabled for your sources?
[03:34] <dazjorz> aglIV: I had Windows installed on /dev/hda2, and expected windows to call its own partition D:, but no, C:.
[03:34] <soundray> metalhedd: java6 is definitely in the repositories. Something is wrong with your sources.list
[03:34] <metalhedd> paradroid: no backports. but i read that java6 is in multiverse,
[03:34] <Errpast1> I have Brother 2070n drivers installed, but jobs won't print, the aobcve is that last error message I get in cups
[03:34] <paradroid> metalhedd: It is. You still need to allow backports on your system.
[03:34] <dazjorz> metalhedd: you sure you did sudo apt-get update afte rmodifying sources.list?
[03:34] <soundray> metalhedd: run 'sudo apt-get update' and watch for errors
[03:35] <minimec> My 'Master Volume' is changing volume on the internal speaker wich is quiet anoying... How would I change that?
[03:35] <southafrikanse>  sudo cp  ~/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample  /etc/wpasupplicant
[03:35] <southafrikanse> It doesn't work
[03:35] <metalhedd> paradroid: how do I enable backports?
[03:35] <metalhedd> soundray: I did all of that, 3 times so far.
[03:35] <aglIV> ikonia:  when installing windows, if you force hda1 (thanks dazjorz) to be to small to install windows and select a different partition, large enough to fit windows, lets say hda2, then windows will format hda1 and write soemthing to hda1 that it needs to boot itself in hda2... Understand?
[03:35] <Errpast1> I got both the 2070N wrapper driver and the LPR driver from Brother site, so I think the drivers are installed
[03:35] <dazjorz> metalhedd: It's a repository, just add it to sources.list
[03:35] <`nicola> metalhedd, look in your synaptic repositories menu
[03:36] <metalhedd> i tried switching from canada server to US Server too.
[03:36] <paradroid> metalhedd: If you feel like GUI, go into Synaptic -> Settings -> Sources
[03:36] <vox754> southafrikanse, "sudo mv  ~/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample  /etc/wpasupplicant" maybe
[03:36] <ikonia> aglIV: that seems a bit over the top, but what ever works for you
[03:36] <paradroid> metalhedd: I have the German version here, so I am not sure what the labels are exactly in English.
[03:36] <Errpast1> Toma-, howdy.  I'm back to trying to get the Brother printer to wrok
[03:37] <aglIV> dazjorz: you're correct, you can play arround with drive names, but I'd still never install an os to hda1!
[03:37] <soundray> !backports > metalhedd
[03:37] <Toma-> Errpast1: hey :D im a little drunk right now, so probably less useful now.
[03:37] <Errpast1> Toma-, 1> cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.-----that's the last message in error_log of cups (set to debug)
[03:37] <dazjorz> aglIV: Why not?
[03:37] <metalhedd> ok, it was in the backports. i got it. thanks
[03:37] <paradroid> metalhedd: Welcome. ;)
[03:37] <Errpast1> Toma-, no problem.  aspirin and water
[03:37] <Toma-> Errpast1: no, im just starting :P
[03:38] <Errpast1> Toma-, well bottoms up, then :)
[03:38] <southafrikanse> My file vanished
[03:38] <Toma-> Errpast1: it certainly sounds like a permsssion problem, probably bought on by those different methods you went about setting up the printer
[03:38] <Toma-> *cheers!*
[03:38] <aglIV> ikonia: I'm just going to reinstall windows... thanks for your time and hope to see you in ICQ
[03:38] <dazjorz> aglIV: I almost always have an OS on hda1, with one exception; my server had /var on hda1 and the OS on hdb or hdc
[03:38] <southafrikanse> At it isn't in the folder I placed it
[03:38] <southafrikanse> How can I find it now'
[03:38] <southafrikanse> ?
[03:39] <Errpast1> Toma-, agreed.  CUPS 1.2 did a bunch of stuff to tighten down.  I read in a developer forum about all sorts of problems.  Maybe I'll unintall and reinistall cups
[03:39] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Are you sure it's not in /etc/wpasupplicant ?
[03:39] <vox754> southafrikanse, there are graphical search buttons. you can "sudo updatedb" and then "locate <file>"
[03:39] <Toma-> Errpast1: make sure you run 'sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsd' to get rid of all those nasty configuration files
[03:39] <onats> can anyone point me to a good tutorial for setting up a CVS server?
[03:40] <Errpast1> Toma-, will do
[03:40] <Toma-> *nod*
[03:40] <aglIV> dazjorz: because the first step in becoming parinoid about outside attacks is to change do things completeley differnt from the norm...
[03:40] <aglIV> dazjorz, ok, that wasn't a sentance, but I think you still got the point
[03:41] <aglIV> dazjorz: attackers expect your OS to be on hda1, that's way mine's not
[03:41] <rhebi> where does the cups-pdf printer put the pdf?
[03:41] <Slart> aglIV: I think many attackers are going to be confused with SATA drives then =)
[03:41] <paradroid> rhebi: Usually in $HOME/PDF
[03:41] <southafrikanse> /home/eurico/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample
[03:41] <bjames> soundray: I think the BIOS may have given up the ghost
[03:42] <southafrikanse> This is where it is
[03:42] <rhebi> paradroid, thanks
[03:42] <paradroid> rhebi: You can set that, though.
[03:42] <paradroid> rhebi: In /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf
[03:42] <aglIV> Slart: the more confused the attackers are, the better, wouldn't you agree?
[03:43] <paradroid> soulcatcher_: OK. So you have your file wpa_supplicant....
[03:43] <paradroid> soulcatcher_: sorry, wrong nick ;)
[03:43] <Slart> aglIV: totally... let them wander in the dark for all I care =)
[03:43] <ihmSelbst> hi
[03:43] <ihmSelbst> i try to install ampache on ubuntu with this tutorial: https://ampache.bountysource.com/wiki/Ampache_on_Debian. Now i try to set the "set permissions of the folder /var/www/ampache". When i "find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} ;" type i get an error find: bad agument for "-exec". Can anybody help me?
[03:43] <paradroid> southafrikanse: So, you have your file wpa_supplicant right there.
[03:43] <dazjorz> Ampache..?!
[03:43] <ihmSelbst> 100% Agree *Thumbs Up*
[03:43] <Joomla> how can i open a windows as root?
[03:43] <Toma-> If youre talking about confusing attackers, installed honeypots...
[03:43] <paradroid> southafrikanse: You want to move it to /etc/wpasupplicant
[03:43] <aglIV> Slart, except for trinity ;) follow the white rabbit....
[03:43] <Toma-> Joomla: use gksu
[03:43] <bulmer> timing marks .... started thinkpad 600 install ..lets see how long
[03:44] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Right?
[03:44] <Slart> Joomla: gksudo xapplicationname
[03:44] <Joomla> thanks
[03:44] <dazjorz> Hmm, how do I tell X-window to maximize the window when I doubleclick the taskbar, instead of showing just the taskbar?
[03:44] <dazjorz> err
[03:44] <dazjorz> titlebar
[03:44] <rhebi> hmm
[03:45] <CBunny> aglIV, err, whatever disk it's installed on, the mount points are the same...
[03:45] <rhebi> cups-pdf will overwrite files with new pdfs without warning, any countermeasure or way to fix this?
[03:45] <jussi01> dazjorz, its in beryl options somewhere
[03:45] <bjames> soundray: how can I find out information like what mode to run the disk at and how many sectors/cylinders, etc the disk has?
[03:45] <jussi01> cant remember where cause im a compiz boy...
[03:45] <paradroid> dazjorz: You can set that e. g. in System -> Settings -> Windows
[03:45] <CBunny> aglIV, I don't see any security advantage
[03:45] <aglIV> CBunny, you can manually set your mountpoints....
[03:45] <paradroid> rhebi: Yes, a second.
[03:46] <paradroid> rhebi: Edit the cups-pdf.conf, go to the block called "Label"
[03:46] <aglIV> CBunny, in linux perhaps, but definately an advantage in the Microsoft-world
[03:46] <paradroid> rhebi: And set that variable to 1
[03:46] <CBunny> aglIV, obviously, but they all start at / - unless your thinking of some bullshit security through obscurity nonsense
[03:47] <southafrikanse> paradroid: yes
[03:47] <aglIV> CBunny: I wasn't talking about security under Linux, but under Microsoft....
[03:48] <paradroid> southafrikanse: In a terminal type: cp /home/eurico/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample etc/wpasupplicant
[03:48] <CBunny> aglIV, forgive me.. i thought the topic of conversation would be linux
[03:48] <paradroid> southafrikanse: You did that before?
[03:48] <Errpast1> Could someone please advise on a CUPS printing issue
[03:48] <Errpast1> seems to be permission related
[03:48] <Errpast1> when I try to print, here's what the error log says
[03:48] <Errpast1> 1> cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
[03:48] <aglIV> CBunny: seeing as how this is an Ubuntu forum.... we kinda drifted off topic and you caught on tward the end...
[03:49] <CBunny> aglIV, alrighty
[03:49] <paradroid> southafrikanse: You need to do: sudo cp /home/eurico/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample etc/wpasupplicant/
[03:49] <lasse_> Hi. Im having a problem with evolution. Every time I fetch mail it keeps eating up about 150 mb ram. So if i fetch mail 3 times Evolution idles at about 450mb ram. Anyone know what i can do to troubleshoot this?
[03:49] <brit> Man. The old old version of X-Chat was so much better
[03:49] <Errpast1> In CUPS, what does this mean - E [04/Mar/2007:09:47:19 -0500]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[03:50] <dazjorz> hm
[03:50] <aglIV> Well time for me to follow the white bunny to the living room and spend some quality time with my wife :)  Evenyone enjoy their sunday and may your request results be prospaious :)
[03:50] <vox754> brit, which one?
[03:50] <southafrikanse> paradroid: It doesn't work
[03:50] <dazjorz> jussi01: I can't find it in beryls options
[03:50] <aglIV> Chausen
[03:50] <rhebi> paradroid, thanks,t hat's pretty good
[03:50] <paradroid> rhebi: Oh, it did work? Nice. I was just guessing ;)
[03:50] <Toma-> Errpast1: is it a usb printer?
[03:51] <brit> I'm using 0.16 now and it's missing a lot of the configuration options that some of the older versions had
[03:51] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Even my last command?
[03:51] <rhebi> yeah everything says Job-XX-filename, but I'd rather mv to rename than .lose data
[03:51] <southafrikanse> Yes
[03:51] <paradroid> southafrikanse: It should ask you for your password to gain administrative rights for the copy command.
[03:51] <southafrikanse> It doesn't
[03:51] <dazjorz> jssi01: I found it in Emeralds settings though :)
[03:51] <Errpast1> Toma-, no.  But I just found a link that suggests this may be a CUPS 1.2 bug
[03:52] <Toma-> Errpast1: so youre using an LPT port?
[03:52] <Errpast1> Toma-, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/42802
[03:52] <paradroid> southafrikanse: sudo cp ~/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample /etc/wpasupplicant/
[03:52] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Sorry, I had some typos in the lines before...
[03:52] <sam_i> hi all
[03:52] <vox754> brit, 0.16? xchat irc client? is it 2.6.6?
[03:52] <brit> Lolz
[03:52] <brit> This is Xchat-GNOME
[03:52] <southafrikanse> It says it isn't a directory my destiny location
[03:52] <Errpast1> Toma-, hmmm.  let me check.
[03:53] <brit> That might be what it is
[03:53] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Oh. Well.... then create it if you need it.
[03:53] <sam_i> mind if i ask a question regarding tv out on ubuntu anyone?
[03:53] <bulmer> timing marks .... started thinkpad 600 install with 93meg of ram..lets see how long or even if install at all
[03:53] <paradroid> southafrikanse: sudo mkdir /etc/wpa_supplicant/
[03:53] <deadeyes> is there any possibility to emulate eject and insert of an usb device?
[03:53] <dazjorz> sam_i: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:53] <vox754> brit, please be specific next time.
[03:53] <southafrikanse> But isn't it there already?
[03:53] <dazjorz> sam_i: you'll see wether it's ok or not
[03:54] <sam_i> i have a posted here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375855 if you want to take a look - cheers dazjorz
[03:54] <uglybetty> Hello all
[03:54] <brit> I apologize, I didn't realize there was a difference at first
[03:54] <Toma-> Errpast1: and youve done 'sudo foomatic-cleanupdrivers' ?
[03:54] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Well, yes. That directory should exist
[03:54] <Errpast1> Toma-, ok.  in cups localhost:631; admin>add printer>brother>lpd/lpr>device URI - lpd://192.168.1.101/queue> choose driver> then prompted for credentials, and none work (e.g. root, origianl user)
[03:54] <Errpast1> hmmm. I;ll try that.
[03:54] <uglybetty> Will installing ubuntu on a USB hdd, damage my system
[03:54] <paradroid> southafrikanse: OK, do this for me, please: ls /etc/ | grep wpa
[03:55] <Toma-> Errpast1: ahhhh its on a network?
[03:55] <southafrikanse> It says that its note possible creating the directory because it already exists.
[03:55] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Now you are getting me confused. First the copy command tells you the destination directory is not there, then the mkdir command tells you it is there?
[03:56] <vox754> uglybetty, I have read that you can install Ubuntu on USB drive without problem as long as your BIOS supports booting from USB.
[03:56] <Errpast1> toma  yes, a little local net.  LInksys to Cable.  Very vaniall.
[03:56] <nuked_omen> what does it mean if someone meeps someone else in a chat room?
[03:56] <Toma-> ok
[03:56] <southafrikanse> wpasupplicant and wpa_supplicant
[03:56] <southafrikanse> Thats what your last command gave me
[03:56] <Errpast1> Toma-, I CAN ping the printer.  And the printer has a fixed IP.  And it works like a charm on Vista
[03:56] <Toma-> ok
[03:56] <paradroid> southafrikanse:  cd /etc/wpa_supplicant/
[03:56] <uglybetty> ok thanks, its just that I got told that it would damage my sytem
[03:56] <Toma-> eww vista :D
[03:56] <phar0z> southafrikanse, do you understand dutch? :D
[03:57] <tosca> hola
[03:57] <nuked_omen> i don't see why vista is eww
[03:57] <DaveTarmac> vox754: Hey vox - i decided to scrap wifi for now and take the machine downstairs and plug it stright in to the router. Doesn't seem to play there either (it's an onboard ethernet card).
[03:57] <Lynoure> nuked_omen: meeps?
[03:57] <DaveTarmac> vox754: any ideas?
[03:57] <GaiaX11> !es|tosca
[03:57] <southafrikanse> phar0z: No
[03:57] <ubotu> tosca: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:57] <nuked_omen> Lynoure: yeah
[03:57] <vox754> DaveTarmac, oh my! wired doesn't work?!
[03:57] <phar0z> oh k :(
[03:57] <Lynoure> nuked_omen: No idea, never really used chatrooms, just irc
[03:58] <Lynoure> nuked_omen: sounds social, ask them?
[03:58] <nuked_omen> ok
[03:58] <nuked_omen> thanks for trying
[03:58] <ingrix> ubotu: Hablo un poco de Espanol.
[03:58] <southafrikanse> paradroid: What now?
[03:58] <vox754> !ubotu
[03:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:58] <DaveTarmac> vox754: i'm not sure the correct driver is installed for the onboard lan, so i'm going to try that. could the madwifi be playing heck with it too?
[03:58] <nuked_omen> !spanish
[03:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:58] <database> Oops, I did it again. I think I blew up GDM by uninstalling nvidia-glx, how would I go about fixing it?
[03:58] <paradroid> southafrikanse: so you actually changed into that directory? This would mean it exists. ;)
[03:59] <nuked_omen> database: reinstall nvidia-glx?
[03:59] <dazjorz> sam_i: I can't help you any further, so just ask your question here, ask people to read the forum thread or just wait untill people answer the question on the forum
[03:59] <dazjorz> !nl
[03:59] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:59] <dazjorz> hehe
[03:59] <dazjorz> en vers gezette koffie
[03:59] <database> nuked_omen: Done that. After loads of dependency troubles, it didn't help worth amonkey.
[03:59] <vox754> DaveTarmac, NO. Wired should work. What onboard LAN. Is it a PC?
[03:59] <southafrikanse> I don't no... If you tell me it exists, it exists
[03:59] <DaveTarmac> yeah it is
[04:00] <DaveTarmac> vox754: to be exact, it is: Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Lan PCI Controller supporting 10/100/1000 BASE-T Ethernet
[04:00] <h3xagram> hello, i have a question.. i just installed ubuntu for the first time but i'm having a problem with the Network Settings (System -> Administration -> Networking)... it connects fine, but I have to always manually put in the SSID and PW for each network I go to
[04:00] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Look at the command line. Where are you right now?
[04:00] <Toma-> Errpast1: i have a sneeking suspicion that the device properties are wrong. possibly by udev
[04:00] <h3xagram> which is a bit irritating from the commute from home to work.. is there a program that will automatically hop on the network when im at work
[04:00] <nuked_omen> database: if you needed to install depencies, you might be installing the wrong package
[04:00] <h3xagram> and hop on the network when im at home?
[04:00] <database> nuked_omen: I very much doubt that.
[04:00] <database> Is there a way to just start over without a disc? :P
[04:00] <vox754> DaveTarmac, that is quite recent, it should work, I guess.
[04:00] <nomin> does envy set up graphics acceleration for ATI's?
[04:01] <crdlb> nomin, yes
[04:01] <southafrikanse> At the place you told me to go
[04:01] <crdlb> nomin, what card?
[04:01] <nomin> crdlb: ati 9600
[04:01] <nuked_omen> database: not very good at fixing this type of issue, sorry
[04:01] <DaveTarmac> vox754: since i've been screwing around with the network settings, is it possible that the config files have become corrupt?
[04:01] <paradroid> southafrikanse: in /etc/wpa_supplicant? That's where you want to copy that file from your Desktop, right?
[04:01] <southafrikanse> Yes
[04:01] <sam_i> ok ill ask - i have a problem with tv out on my radean 9800, which when trying to put to tv it seems to be too higher refresh/res. I have installed all the standard ati drivers which seem to be working correctly. I have a pal tv. Is there a config that im missing or something like that? Cheers.
[04:01] <crdlb> nomin, you ought to use the free "radeon" driver included in ubuntu
[04:01] <southafrikanse> It is it a folder on the desktop
[04:02] <nomin> crdlb: does that one have acceleration?
[04:02] <DaveTarmac> vox754: is there a way to force ubuntu to see the card? it recognises there is one in the device manager, but network_manager_gnome claims that there isn't one
[04:02] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Oh. You have a FOLDER sitting on your Desktop that you want to copy?
[04:02] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Not just a single file?
[04:02] <crdlb> nomin, for your card, yes
[04:02] <southafrikanse> I want a single file in the folder
[04:02] <vox754> DaveTarmac, Wired is essentially secure, so you just need to set DHCP in the router and it should pick it up.
[04:03] <AskHL> Hey, I would like to install Sun JDK/JRE 6. But after installing through synaptic, there is no java-executable in PATH, and when I run java_vm it complains about JAVA_HOME and PLUGIN_HOME not being set. Can anyone help?
[04:03] <paradroid> southafrikanse: WHAT file from WHERE do you want to move?
[04:03] <crdlb> nomin, it may not be quite as fast (fps) but it will be much more reliable and stable
[04:03] <southafrikanse> It is in e-UConnect folder
[04:03] <paradroid> southafrikanse: OK.
[04:03] <dazjorz> DaveTarmac: Try to configure it on the console using ifconfig
[04:03] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Type ls, please.
[04:03] <DaveTarmac> vox754: dhcp is set up. the windows machine and mac run fine on it.
[04:04] <nomin> crdlb: cool.  I tried another distro on it about a year ago and there was no acceleration.  It would be nice if it can get at least 1,000 fps.  I'm thinking it should be able to get over 2,000 fps.
[04:04] <southafrikanse> ifupdown.sh
[04:04] <southafrikanse> What does this mean?
[04:04] <paradroid> southafrikanse: That's the contents of that folder. A script.
[04:04] <vox754> DaveTarmac, get a 12 m Ethernet cable so you don't have to move things around.
[04:04] <paradroid> southafrikanse: sudo cp /home/eurico/Desktop/e-UConnect/wpa_supplicant.conf.sample .
[04:04] <DaveTarmac> it's fine - got a 1m cable and the machine is downstairs now
[04:04] <crdlb> nomin, It's a relatively recent development
[04:04] <finalbeta> !paste
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[04:04] <GaiaX11> !network| h3xagram
[04:04] <ubotu> h3xagram: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:05] <gharz> guys... i want to copy an audio cd... but i don't want to install k3b... can anybody suggest any apps for gnome?
[04:05] <vox754> paradroid, maybe he is trying to move the entire folder, like "mv <folder> <location>"
[04:05] <ardchoille> gharz: gnomebaker ?
[04:05] <crdlb> gharz, gnomebaker or brasero
[04:05] <paradroid> vox754: I thought so, but it's about that single sample file. I'm quite sure.
[04:05] <gharz> alright.
[04:05] <gharz> thanks!
[04:05] <vox754> h3xagram, I think there is an application like that, wifi radar or something.
[04:05] <DaveTarmac> vox754: think i'll go screw around with it, remove the madwifi drivers to make sure that ath0 and wifi0 go. that way I can narrow down the number of network conenctions.
[04:05] <ingrix> gharz: I have had a lot of good luck with Brasero
[04:05] <AskHL> !java
[04:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:06] <gharz> ingrix: what do u mean a lot of good luck with Brasero? do u mean it isn't good as gnomebaker?
[04:06] <DaveTarmac> vox754: i'll let you know if it works later. gonna watch west wing and mess with it now. thanks for your help
[04:06] <vox754> DaveTarmac, yeah sure.
[04:06] <ingrix> gharz: I am saying that I like Brasero a lot.  I'm not saying Gnomebaker is worse at all, just that I prefer Brasero
[04:07] <`nicola> where can I find others accessories to add to the gnome panel ? thanks
[04:07] <gharz> ingrix: ok.. thanks!
[04:07] <vox754> DaveTarmac, west wing? you into espionage?
[04:07] <GaiaX11> gharz: Everything is good in linux. It is only a matter of personal taste. Lin is not Win :)
[04:07] <crdlb> `nicola, there aren't particularly many 3rd-party applets for the panel
[04:07] <h3xagram> thanks vox754
[04:07] <berent> #quit
[04:08] <`nicola> crdlb, the applets for notes suck. I was using a real better applet in xfce
[04:08] <Beto> hello
[04:08] <vox754> h3xagram, it worked?
[04:08] <Slart> Gnomebaker has some issues with long filenames (filename+dir)... well.. it's the cd file format that's to blame.. but gnomebaker just complains.. brasero also complains but fixes it in some way
[04:08] <southafrikanse> paradroid, I'm getting confused
[04:08] <h3xagram> i dont know, im just saying thanks for the info
[04:08] <ingrix> `nicola: If you want to add application launchers, you can go to your menu, right click on what you want, and click "add to panel"
[04:08] <paradroid> `nicola: Have you tried Tomboy?
[04:08] <sam_i> anyone have any idea about tv out being too high res then
[04:08] <paradroid> southafrikanse: ;)
[04:08] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Sorry.
[04:08] <vlt|home> # fuser -am /dev/hdc3; --> /dev/hdc3:
[04:08] <vlt|home> # mdadm -vvvv /dev/md2 --add /dev/hdc3; --> mdadm: Cannot open /dev/hdc3: Device or resource busy
[04:08] <vlt|home> Any idea?
[04:08] <`nicola> yes paradroid
[04:08] <southafrikanse> The file is still not there
[04:08] <paradroid> `nicola: Didn't like it? I think it's a quite nice note applet.
[04:08] <GaiaX11> !ask| Beto
[04:08] <ubotu> Beto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:08] <`nicola> I want a notes applet that when I click on it display the space to write
[04:09] <vox754> h3xagram, the packages seem to be "wifi-radar" and "kwifimanager"
[04:09] <`nicola> I don't care about menus and stuff
[04:09] <`nicola> If i click on it I need to write
[04:09] <ardchoille> `nicola: sticky notes applet, you should already have it.
[04:09] <GaiaX11> !enter|nicola
[04:09] <ubotu> nicola: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:09] <Slart> nicola: there are a few "post it" apps out there
[04:09] <dazjorz> vlt|home:  Yes, unmount it
[04:09] <`nicola> sorry GaiaX11
[04:09] <paradroid> southafrikanse: After executing the command I gave you, are you asked for a password?
[04:10] <Beto> Well ok, Where would I get codecs for movie player? I a dvd but cannot watch it, as well as for other things live wmv, rmb,and others
[04:10] <`nicola> Slart, can I add this post apps to the taskbar ?
[04:10] <southafrikanse> No
[04:10] <GaiaX11> !codecs|Beto
[04:10] <ubotu> Beto: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <vlt|home> dazjorz: It's not mounted anymore.
[04:10] <Slart> nicola: I think I went through most of them...I finally settled on Knotes, even though I ust gnome
[04:10] <southafrikanse> Can we start from the begginig?
[04:10] <vox754> `nicola, Yes, you add the path to the application and, if you want to, an icon too.
[04:10] <paradroid> southafrikanse: I'm sorry, I don't know how to explain it any better. What you have to do is do a sudo cp first referencing the file and then the destination. It's actually really simple.
[04:11] <ardchoille> `nicola: right click the panel, choose Add to Panel, choose Sticky Notes and done
[04:11] <`nicola> sticky notes is worse than others
[04:11] <southafrikanse> I'll close the terminal and copy the file to the Desktop
[04:11] <paradroid> southafrikanse: OK.
[04:11] <vox754> paradroid, I have an idea. Tell him to use "gksudo nautilus" and copy-paste.
[04:11] <`nicola> If I click on the applet I need to write *now", sticky notes won't popup anything clicking on it
[04:11] <paradroid> vox754: Right. ;)
[04:11] <paradroid> vox754: Who needs CLI anyway? ;)
[04:12] <vox754> paradroid, yeah, CLI is for experts only... the hell with them...
[04:12] <GaiaX11> paradroid: I like CLI. They really make Linux a fun! :-)
[04:12] <paradroid> vox754: It's just, for operations like the one at hand (copying, moving, ...) CLI is much more efficient than GUI.
[04:12] <`nicola> vox754, I'll try some othere post it application
[04:13] <ingrix> paradroid: You can say that again ;)
[04:13] <paradroid> southafrikanse: OK. Ready?
[04:13] <nuked_omen> i luv CLI
[04:13] <vox754> paradroid, yeah... I was just being sarcastic.
[04:13] <nuked_omen> CLI is much more powerful
[04:13] <Thug-N-Me> checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8.0) were not met
[04:13] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Do you have the file you want to copy ready at your disposal?
[04:13] <jin> what's CLI?
[04:13] <Thug-N-Me> what do i need to install ?
[04:13] <nuked_omen> jin: Command Line Interpreter
[04:13] <southafrikanse> Yes. The file name is  wpa_supplicant.conf.sample
[04:13] <nuked_omen> jin: or Interface
[04:13] <vox754> !CLI
[04:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:14] <paradroid> nuked_omen: It's so funny to watch GUI-fans faces empty when you write some lines of code and on pressing Enter you have moved, renamed, sorted, etc. files ;)
[04:14] <`nicola> is there any clipboard applet for the taskbar ?
[04:14] <GaiaX11> Linux is not linux without CLI guys! :-)
[04:14] <akao> woho
[04:14] <nuked_omen> paradroid: exactly
[04:14] <akao> hitting "save as" in bluefish causes it to quit
[04:14] <ingrix> paradroid: That's one of the reasons I switched to Linux from Windows!
[04:14] <paradroid> southafrikanse: OK. That file resides on your Desktop right now?
[04:14] <nuked_omen> besides, most GUI applications use CLI to do their job
[04:14] <southafrikanse> Yes
[04:14] <southafrikanse> It must go to /etc/wpasupplicant
[04:14] <vox754> `nicola, good luck. What you want seems to be very specific, so you can only hope for the best searching exactly what you want.
[04:14] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Press Alt+F2
[04:15] <jin> is it posible to add an extra menu with a list of favorite application to the taskbar?
[04:15] <southafrikanse> yes
[04:15] <paradroid> southafrikanse: gksudo nautilus
[04:15] <nuked_omen> jin: yeah, just drag it to there
[04:15] <nuked_omen> to the taskbar
[04:15] <jin> nuked_omen, I want a menu, not just a shortcut
[04:15] <jin> a dropdown menu like the quicklaunch of win xp
[04:15] <andytayloruk> hi
[04:15] <southafrikanse> I'm on Nautilus now
[04:15] <crdlb> jin, you could put them in a "launchers list"
[04:15] <`nicola> vox754, what I want was the default notes applet in the xfce4 taskbar
[04:16] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Navigate to your Desktop
[04:16] <ardchoille> `nicola: http://glipper.sourceforge.net/
[04:16] <nuked_omen> jin: right-click > add to panel > main menu
[04:16] <andytayloruk> relatively simple question... whenever I drag to select files on the desktop, there is a significant lag if I do a big box.. is this a sign of bad performance? should it be more smoother?
[04:16] <nuked_omen> jin: then you can select the menus and modify them
[04:16] <SmileyLap> Hi guys...... my amsn icon has *vanished* from the system tray, Its still "running" as i recive messages. Killing it using ps and grep doesn't help either. It moans about TCL ?
[04:16] <southafrikanse> I'm there but I can't see anything
[04:16] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Go to /home/eurico/Desktop
[04:16] <paradroid> southafrikanse: You're probably at root
[04:16] <jin> ah
[04:17] <jin> a workaround
[04:17] <julio> I recently installed Ubuntu and so far it's working great. But, I was wondering if there was any way I could get Windows to load by default when GRUB comes up. (Several people use my computer and they use Windows)
[04:17] <vox754> `nicola, oh. In that case, there surely is a way to port the application. Go to the developers page. Maybe you can install it anyways, just like KDE applications work fine on GNOME.
[04:17] <crdlb> jin, did you try the "launchers list"?
[04:17] <southafrikanse> OK
[04:17] <andytayloruk> anyone?
[04:17] <`nicola> thanks ardchoille and vox754
[04:17] <southafrikanse> I'm there
[04:17] <jin> crdlb, I dunno how to add a launcherlist
[04:17] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Now select the file, press Ctrl+C
[04:17] <vox754> julio, this one is easy, come to #vocx
[04:17] <marx2k> julio, look in /boot/grub/menu.list and there's a setting for default
[04:17] <jin> crdlb, I'm on dapper btw
[04:17] <onestep> can anyone help me, I am trying to complile a program and it is giving me an error that crtl.o file is missing
[04:17] <crdlb> jin, rt-click on empty space, add to panel, lauchers list
[04:18] <LoKo_De_TuDo> oh yeah thayn is a fuckin' bitch
[04:18] <southafrikanse> Done
[04:18] <crdlb> jin, it's in dapper
[04:18] <LoKo_De_TuDo> aren't you, izm99?
[04:18] <LoKo_De_TuDo> izN * sorry
[04:18] <izN> LoKo_De_TuDo, OL
[04:18] <izN> iOAEHIE
[04:18] <paradroid> southafrikanse: Navigate to /etc/wpa_supplicant/
[04:18] <jin> crdlb, I don't see it
[04:18] <southafrikanse> Already did that
[04:18] <southafrikanse> The file is there!
[04:19] <paradroid> southafrikanse: ;)
[04:19] <southafrikanse> Ok
[04:19] <keir_> hi
[04:19] <ingrix> jin: Is there something there that says "drawer"
[04:19] <izN> ompaul, are u crazy?
[04:19] <southafrikanse> Now I have to execute a Makefile
[04:19] <Database> How would one restart GDM from teh console?
[04:19] <ihmSelbst> i try to install ampache on ubuntu with this tutorial: https://ampache.bountysource.com/wiki/Ampache_on_Debian. Now i try to set the "set permissions of the folder /var/www/ampache". When i "find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} ;" type i get an error find: bad agument for "-exec". Can anybody help me?
[04:19] <ingrix> jin: If so, add that to the panel
[04:19] <southafrikanse> Let's see if it works
[04:19] <ompaul> !nickspam > Database
[04:19] <keir_> I'm having some probs with my Beryl on ATI if anyone could help?
[04:19] <`nicola> thanks ardchoille glipper is what I was looking for
[04:19] <marx2k> Database, im not sure if this would work but 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[04:20] <Database> Oh, yes.
[04:20] <ompaul> izN, no - and bad language is not permitted
[04:20] <Database> I've seen that before.
[04:20] <Database> Hold on.
[04:20] <jin> ingrix, found it :)
[04:20] <izN> ompaul, hmmmmm..
[04:20] <ihmSelbst> keir_, ati driver installed?
[04:20] <raf256> how to add repositories to ubuntu after install (thoes with windows codecs, mplayer, kaffeine etc)
[04:20] <keir_> ihmSelbst: yup :)
[04:20] <Stormx2> !repo | raf256
[04:20] <ubotu> raf256: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:20] <julio> marx2k, I'm a newbie so I don't know how to change the default setting
[04:20] <sinizzl> well
[04:20] <keir_> ihmSelbst: when i type beryl in terminal i get Checking for XCOmposite Extension: failed
[04:20] <ihmSelbst> sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald
[04:20] <Database> Hmmm.
[04:20] <Eko_Hermiyanto> hello
[04:20] <vox754> !restricted > raf256
[04:20] <sinizzl> some codecs are not available via teh multiverse repository
[04:20] <ihmSelbst> k, mom
[04:20] <Database> No luck, I think.
[04:21] <sinizzl> nor any other 'official' rep
[04:21] <Eko_Hermiyanto> is it possible for displaying website in desktop when we are online in gnome?
[04:21] <marx2k> julio, its a  text file, just type (in console) 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list' and read through the file.. it's self explanatory
[04:21] <raf256> thanks
[04:21] <Database> Alt-F7 gives me no response
[04:21] <ingrix> raf256: Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[04:21] <keir_> im on the latest emerald version
[04:21] <ingrix> raf256: Enter your password at the prompt
[04:21] <marx2k> Database, then Im out of options :)
[04:21] <Stormx2> Database: Ctrl + Alt + F7
[04:21] <Database> Well, thanks. :)
[04:21] <sam_i> cheers anyway, gtg
[04:21] <Database> Stormx2: Ahhh.
[04:21] <sam_i> quit
[04:21] <vox754> julio, you have to set an option for default and the line where windows is displayed, like 3 or 4.
[04:21] <ingrix> raf256: Then make sure the first four boxes are checked
[04:21] <raf256> ingrix: yeah Im advanced debian user, only forgot and needed to help ubuntu friend
[04:22] <ingrix> raf256: Gotcha :)
[04:22] <Database> Stormx2: Does nothing, unfortunately.
[04:22] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have ubuntu system...
[04:22] <marx2k> Database, well if gdm is closed, you can type 'startx &'
[04:22] <jfenwick> anyone here program in the gtk? I installed the dev packages for the gtk-2.0, and I tried importing the gtk.h from gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h, but it doesn't work because when I look in the head file it's importing all these files from the gtk directory, which it's already inside
[04:22] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I think it's useful for having our desktop displaying website every time we are online...
[04:23] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but I don't know whether it is possible in gnome or not
[04:23] <Database> "Fatal error, no screens found". $%^%^!!!
[04:23] <SmileyLap> Hi guys...... my amsn icon has *vanished* from the system tray, Its still "running" as i recive messages. Killing it using ps and grep doesn't help either. It moans about TCL ?
[04:23] <marx2k> Database: uh oh
[04:23] <Database> Ah, wait...
[04:23] <SmileyLap> attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead < this is teh error message.
[04:23] <Errpast1> toma what was that command you suggested to purge the cups package?
[04:23] <vox754> Database, I think you need first to go to a terminal like Ctrl+Alt+F1, then you run the init.d script
[04:23] <Database> Looks like I'm gonna have to hit Aptitiude again.
[04:23] <marx2k> Database: 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE' and find out what the problem is
[04:24] <Database> marx2k: I'm aware of the problem, now.
[04:24] <raf256> SmileyLap: try kill -9 ?
[04:24] <Database> Mis-match on teh kernels.
[04:24] <Toma-> Errpast1: sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys (or whatever packages. you can do it from synaptic too, just right click and select completely remove)
[04:24] <Database> Just like someone said earlier.
[04:24] <SmileyLap> raf256: i've done that
[04:24] <SmileyLap> i just get hte same error, everytime i start it
[04:25] <raf256> SmileyLap: oh
[04:25] <ompaul> large group of un bans coming up
[04:25] <riven> .
[04:25] <Errpast1> Toma-, thanks.  So that gets rid of all traces (at least in theory) of a package, right?
[04:25] <southafrikanse> I have a file named MakeFIle
[04:25] <SmileyLap> which leaves me kinda stuck :(
[04:25] <ikonia> thats a lot of bans
[04:25] <Toma-> Errpast1: you bet
[04:25] <southafrikanse> Inside of it there are instructions to install a the script
[04:25] <Toma-> they were remove bans
[04:25] <ompaul> ikonia, last weeks treasures
[04:25] <vox754> SmileyLap, Tcl is a programming language, so maybe it is not correctly installed.
[04:25] <southafrikanse> But I can understand it
[04:25] <SmileyLap> Ok lets try this a different way: Does anyone know how to fix "attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead"
[04:25] <ardchoille> ompaul: lol
[04:26] <SmileyLap> vox754: how would i reinstall it?
[04:26] <Errpast1> Toma-, thx
[04:26] <Database> DAMMIT.
[04:26] <Database> No installation candidate.
[04:26] <lju2> Yo, does anyone now why after playing with usermod I lost icons in Administration?
[04:27] <rhebi> cups-pdf is nice
[04:27] <vox754> SmileyLap, maybe "sudo aptitude reinstall tcl8.4" did you do anything special?
[04:28] <SmileyLap> vox754: not that im aware of, it happened shortly after i got my wireless working.
[04:28] <vox754> SmileyLap, mmm... maybe you compiled or got new headers or something like that.
[04:28] <SmileyLap> ok thanks vox754,
[04:28] <SmileyLap> :O Yes
[04:29] <SmileyLap> headers, i got some headers, to compile a driver....
[04:29] <globe> what is it called when I want to share a folder on one ubuntu machine and write to it from another ubuntu machine?
[04:29] <SmileyLap> i needed to compile a driver against some headers, so i downloaded headers.... Why would that change anything?
[04:30] <vox754> SmileyLap, not sure. But Tcl is an interpreted language so if you modify something it may not be interpreted correctly. However your problem isn't serious, so go ahead and try it.
[04:30] <nothlit> !nfs | globe
[04:30] <ubotu> globe: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:31] <raf256> ubuntu is hard to install
[04:31] <raf256> there hould be a simple
[04:31] <SmileyLap> vox754: thanks for pointing that out, im nowgoogling and it seems there is at least "some" info.
[04:31] <raf256> click-me-to-add-non-free-repositories  icon on desktop
[04:31] <vox754> SmileyLap, okay.
[04:31] <ingrix> raf256: lol, you're just sore about forgetting
[04:31] <raf256> possible with confirmation box   [ ]  Yeah I do live outside the United States of Idiotic patents
[04:31] <globe> nothlit: thanks, I didn't even know what to call it, so I could not search for it.
[04:32] <vox754> raf256, there is a single line to install most things on the web page, wiki, documentation.
[04:32] <raf256> ingrix: I give the links to friend and he says its too complicated; I dont have ubuntu here to check
[04:32] <ingrix> raf256: Oh
[04:32] <nothlit> globe: if you want to ever potentially share with windows computers, you should use samba though
[04:32] <raf256> there should be one simple command to add them.
[04:33] <donkeegan> help : I installed Openssh server but when i try to login using ssh localhost i get this error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[04:34] <Database> Woot!
[04:34] <donkeegan> help : I installed Openssh server but when i try to login using ssh localhost i get this error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[04:34] <Database> Something just happened, but it looks like I have GDM back.
[04:35] <vox754> Database, reboot?
[04:35] <Matic`Makovec> How could I make xchat, gaim...to use firefox for opening URLs I click on?  The programs are using Ephipany without any reason really
[04:35] <vox754> SmileyLap, more info "aptitude -v show amsn"
[04:36] <donkeegan> help : I installed Openssh server but when i try to login using ssh localhost i get this error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[04:36] <SmileyLap> vox754: i think i found the solution, it seems that tcl1.5 is broken, on the amsn site it made me edit a file, and now here we go :)
[04:37] <Almindor> hi, how do I prevent ubuntu from "ifup"-ing my "ra0" (wireless) ?
[04:37] <jordan> what was the version of ubuntu that was announced or something of that nature that was aimed at audio production?
[04:37] <Almindor> I have it "off" in the "networking" gui settings but it's always on after boot and searching like hell
[04:37] <Qew> Matic`Makovec: in Gaim there should be a browser tab in the Preferences, where you can change the browser to be used.
[04:37] <vox754> SmileyLap, why do you say tcl1.5? the current version is like tcl8.5
[04:37] <globe> nothlit: yea, I have done that several times.  never w/o windows though
[04:37] <Matic`Makovec> donkeegan,  http://www.raditha.com/blog/archives/000604.html
[04:38] <SmileyLap> vox754: thats what teh error message said
[04:38] <Matic`Makovec> Qew, I'll check, thanks. Any idea about xchat?
[04:38] <Database> /\/\/\/\
[04:38] <Database> Oops.
[04:38] <Database> Sorry.
[04:38] <Qew> Matic`Makovec: not sure about Xchat, because I haven't used it for some time, but I'm sure I remember some setting in preferences if you take a look.
[04:38] <donkeegan> ive been throught that Matic`Makovec
[04:38] <SmileyLap> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Frequently+Asked+Questions#faq-6-6 < vox754 thats what i found
[04:38] <Matic`Makovec> Okay
[04:38] <Matic`Makovec> donkeegan, weird
[04:39] <SmileyLap> tho there is STILL no sign of the amsn icon :(
[04:39] <vox754> Almindor, I guess you need to edit "/etc/noetwork/interfaces" and take out the "auto" line
[04:39] <donkeegan> shall i paste a detailed ssh --vv localhost in ur private
[04:39] <Matic`Makovec> SmileyLap, don't use amsn imo.
[04:39] <Almindor> vox754, thanx
[04:39] <Qew> Matic`Makovec: http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q221
[04:40] <SmileyLap> Matic`Makovec: what isntead? Gaim crashes because of some issue with my list of users.
[04:40] <vox754> SmileyLap, graphical things are managed by Tk8.4 so you may need to reinstall it too.
[04:40] <jussi01> SmileyLap, , what are you trying to do?
[04:40] <Matic`Makovec> Great, thank you. How could I forgot about faq *slaps himself*
[04:40] <neo2dot0> help, i cannot change the permissions for a partition i want to share in the network
[04:40] <Matic`Makovec> SmileyLap, owh, amsn then :)
[04:40] <SmileyLap> jussi01: i've lost the amsn icon which was in my system try.
[04:40] <nothlit> Matic`Makovec: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications, if that doesn't work, install galternatives and use that
[04:40] <SmileyLap> s/try/tray
[04:40] <donkeegan> help : I installed Openssh server but when i try to login using ssh localhost i get this error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[04:40] <jussi01> does amsn work?
[04:41] <neo2dot0> chmod and sudo chmod commands are ignored
[04:41] <Database> Hmm.
[04:41] <SmileyLap> jussi01: yeah people are sending me messages
[04:41] <Database> Where is xorg.conf?
[04:41] <SmileyLap> but i can't get to it
[04:41] <SmileyLap> i can't see it.
[04:41] <SmileyLap> nor configure it etc.
[04:42] <SmileyLap> its like its running as a daemon. :-/ which isn't too useful if i want to send a message to anyone!
[04:42] <megabyte__> hy all
[04:42] <dtolj> Database: whereis xorg.conf
[04:42] <jussi01> SmileyLap, have you tried killing the daemon and starting again?
[04:42] <Database> dtolj: Uhh?
[04:42] <andytayloruk> is it worth upgrading my kernel from generic to p4 specific if I have a p4?
[04:42] <dtolj> Database: type it
[04:42] <andytayloruk> or is the difference only slight?
[04:42] <jussi01> SmileyLap, like reinstalling amsn?
[04:42] <SmileyLap> yep jussi01, it just does teh same thing, with some error about not finiding tcl1.50 and getting 1.5 instead. Althought i've appently fixed that problem now.
[04:43] <Database> Ahhh, I see
[04:43] <Database> A command.
[04:43] <SmileyLap> jussi01: done that too. Maybe i should do a total removal?
[04:43] <dtolj> Database: locate xorg.conf also works
[04:43] <Leon-Linux> HAJ!
[04:43] <Leon-Linux> jjeej dziaa
[04:44] <jussi01> SmileyLap, yeah, I was just gonna suggest that, however, i have a script that makes amsn look nice, - it recompiles it, maybe it could help. would you like a copy?
[04:44] <stigg> how can i go in quakenet?
[04:44] <SmileyLap> jussi01: im trying the thing and then maybe.
[04:44] <Database> stigg: Which client are you using?
[04:44] <SmileyLap> is there anything else which should have a system...
[04:44] <vox754> andytayloruk, I think it is not necessary to change the kernel unless you know what you are doing. I think Ubuntu no longer recommends specific kernels.
[04:44] <stigg> xchat
[04:44] <TheVault> last night I had installed the gnome-desktop, I think i put the command as sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop (i think that was the command) but really, I never use it as much and I wanna remove it, what command would I use to remove it?
[04:44] <Database> Stigg: File > Network
[04:44] <SmileyLap> my konverstation isn't in the system tray either, infact, its below the Applications bit.
[04:44] <Database> Or something like that.
[04:45] <d9DE> Hello, I have mounted a samba share (from a linux server) using an entry in /etc/fstab (//samba.sane.lan/company /media/company   smbfs   username=jan,password=somepass  0 0) now the user jan can read files, but not write any files, how can I fix this (and making sure files are crreated by user jan and not root)
[04:45] <megabyte__> does anyone have a clue why gnome could rename my partition???
[04:45] <Stormx2> Hey folks. What is a good ratio of partition size for / vs /home ?
[04:45] <Database> stigg: Just doubleclick QuakeNET in there.
[04:45] <gop> !gnump3d
[04:45] <ubotu> gnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (edgy), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:45] <gop> is thier any thing better then gnump3d
[04:45] <Database> Stormx2: I made my /home 20GB v / 40GB
[04:45] <raf256> gop: what can it do?
[04:45] <gop> stream mp3
[04:45] <Database> But that's probably waaay overboard.
[04:45] <joerlend> what does gnome-cups-icon do? It's using my cpu extensively, and I think that's strange, cause I don't have a printer attached?
[04:45] <gop> act like a juke box server
[04:45] <raf256> gop: is it good if I have in home a lan and I want to have one bux as local "radio"?
[04:45] <gop> !gnump3d > raf256
[04:46] <vox754> SmileyLap, You need tcl8.4 and tk8.4 to run amsn. I just checked the page, it seems good. Maybe yours is just one of those reboot the X server to make it work.
[04:46] <gop> raf256:  > icecast
[04:46] <TheVault> Can someone help me?
[04:46] <Qew> Database: why 40gb for /? Six to ten gigs would suffice for most users.
[04:46] <raf256> !icecast
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <jussi01> !ask | TheVault
[04:46] <ubotu> TheVault: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <gop> raf256:  oh k you can listen to any of your songs via any computer on your lan raf256
[04:46] <andytayloruk> vox754: ok. just thought it might solve performance issues
[04:46] <gop> but for some reason
[04:46] <ompaul> raf256, ehh do /msg ubotu KeyWord :)
[04:46] <gop> when I reboot or it won't even connect to the host / port number
[04:46] <SmileyLap> vox754: my Konversation icon is in the wrong place too
[04:46] <gop> raf256:  also try shoutcast
[04:47] <gop> but this is good idea but it not working
[04:47] <SmileyLap> yeah im gonna reboot :D
[04:47] <Database> Qew: Lack of knowledge, and sheer stubbornness. :)
[04:47] <jussi01> SmileyLap, wait a sec
[04:47] <megabyte__> does anyone have a clue why gnome could rename my partition???
[04:47] <megabyte__> I see some random characters instead of hda5
[04:47] <Stormx2> megabyte__: Are you sure it has?
[04:47] <SmileyLap> jussi01: ok
[04:47] <Azoff> I am having a hard time to make ubuntu boot when having multiplie sw raids on the same system. Sometime, the SATA discs are detected before IDE and if that's the case, the SATA raid5 will become /dev/md0 and such. But sometimes it's the IDE raid1 that gets as /dev/md0, if that later is true, then the system will boot, the other case, not booting..
[04:47] <Qew> Database: hehe
[04:47] <vox754> andytayloruk, what were you asking?
[04:47] <Stormx2> megabyte__: Check in /media or /mnt (wherever you have it mounted)
[04:47] <jussi01> SmileyLap, have you still got a notification area on your taskbar?
[04:47] <megabyte__> "/media" is fine
[04:48] <TheVault> Last night, i had installed the gnome desktop(i'm using kubuntu) and I never really use the gnome environment and i thought that I would be using them both but it turns out i use the kde environment more. how do i more the gnome desktop, I forgot the command for unistalling it
[04:48] <jussi01> ie. systemtray?
[04:48] <Stormx2> megabyte__: The its probably just what is displays em as
[04:48] <TheVault> *remove the gnome desktop
[04:48] <megabyte__> "/etc/fstab" is also fine
[04:48] <scv> megabyte__: is the /media a FHS stuff?
[04:48] <Azoff> I have debuged and such and found that maybe if I just got mdadm.conf into the initramfs, it would work.. but no go there. Looks like mdrun(?) just has it's own party and dosn't care about what becomes what... :-(
[04:48] <jussi01> TheVault, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <Azoff> any ideas how to solve this issue?
[04:48] <megabyte__> FHS???
[04:49] <SmileyLap> jussi01: im not sure :?
[04:49] <TheVault> jussi01: Thanks
[04:49] <jamey> I've installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk with wifi chipset drivers netw3. ndiswrapper reports driver installed, hardware present. But there's no "wlan0" or anything in network config, nor does ifconfig or iwconfig report anything. Can someone tell me how to get it working?
[04:49] <Thug-N-Me> is anyone ablt to play videos from http://zango.com/ ?
[04:49] <PupUser2c276c> hey room
[04:49] <Azoff> I evan were unable to boot, due to this, right after install!
[04:49] <Stormx2> megabyte__: Why the "???" ?
[04:49] <ompaul> TheVault, sudo apt-get remove gnome (cos gnome-desktop is a metapackage but it will not get rid ot 100% but it will be good enough to go forward with)
[04:49] <joerlend> TheVault: that won't do.
[04:49] <SmileyLap> LOL Thankyou jussi01:D
[04:49] <Database> Thug-N-Me: SPYWARE.
[04:49] <scv> megabyte__: is that a dir standard?
[04:49] <Database> Thug-N-Me: I think...
[04:49] <PupUser2c276c> hows everyone today?
[04:49] <megabyte__> no
[04:49] <jussi01> SmileyLap, did you figure it out?
[04:49] <megabyte__> what is FHS?
[04:49] <Database> Thug-N-Me: Either way, I wouldn't trust it.
[04:49] <joerlend> jussi01: that only removes the ubuntu-desktop meta package. It doesn't remove any software, iirc.
[04:49] <vox754> jamey, that seems a problem. There is a new ndiswrapper 1.38 now.
[04:49] <SmileyLap> jussi01: you rock :) Yeah, i had some how revmoed my notifcation area :)
[04:49] <Thug-N-Me> Database yeah ? so thats why it requires windows os :)
[04:49] <Stormx2> PupUser2c276c: Tired... hah.
[04:49] <TheVault> Thanks guys, I'll try all the command suggested and I'll see if that will work
[04:50] <Stormx2> megabyte__: Google it.
[04:50] <Database> Thug-N-Me: Indeed. I'd advise you not try it. :)
[04:50] <PupUser2c276c> boy the guys in the debian room really don't like outsiders like puppylinux people
[04:50] <SmileyLap> cept there is a "blank" in it jussi01, i prob clicked the blank and tried to remove it. Any idea what the blank is :/
[04:50] <Thug-N-Me> Database ok :)
[04:50] <GaiaX11> Is there a last.fm package for ubuntu?
[04:50] <PupUser2c276c> get some sleep storm, this site will be up when you get up
[04:50] <SmileyLap> jussi01: the blank "is" the notifcation area :?
[04:50] <jamey> Can someone help me with my ndiswrapper wifi problem please?
[04:51] <jussi01> SmileyLap, yeah, just right click on the little bar and click move... then move it across
[04:51] <Database> Thug-N-Me: Actually, I don't think it's possible anyway, unless you were to try using something like WINE.
[04:51] <Stormx2> PupUser2c276c: Its 3pm
[04:51] <GaiaX11> !ndis|jamey
[04:51] <ubotu> jamey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <vox754> jamey, you tried ndiswrapper 1.38?
[04:51] <extrem> ola!
[04:51] <extrem> algun espaol '
[04:51] <extrem> ?
[04:51] <jamey> vox754: only whatever the default package is...
[04:51] <Stormx2> !es | extrem
[04:51] <ubotu> extrem: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:51] <PupUser2c276c> they called me a troll, i told them i'm 6foot 2inches tall, to big to be a troll
[04:52] <DBFT> hey, today i've been setting up ubuntu on several computers in my house, while most have worked fine - one is refusing to connect to the network
[04:52] <TheVault> Sorry guys but neither commands work
[04:52] <PupUser2c276c> well storm just have a afternoon nap then
[04:52] <DBFT> in networking - will it list wireless if it does not detect a wireless card?
[04:52] <Stormx2> PupUser2c276c: Just be nice to em... they like everything to be on-topic in there. So do we actually, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:52] <vox754> jamey, If you installed from the repositories, then uninstall it. Get the new packages from the developers page. Compile and try it.
[04:52] <GaiaX11> extrem: No, pero s hablar su lengua. Pero es mejor ir a /join #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <TheVault> it says this: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:52] <jamey> vox754: okay thanks
[04:52] <jordan> Does anyone know anything about that supposed audio focused Ubuntu derivative.
[04:53] <megabyte__> fat32 is a standard?
[04:53] <PupUser2c276c> it was fun as hell storm, almost turned it into a insult room, debian= debbie does ian,lol
[04:53] <Stormx2> megabyte__: Just like ntfs, reiserfs, ext3, yes
[04:53] <TheVault> jussi01: Those commands does not work
[04:53] <SmileyLap> jussi01: ?
[04:53] <megabyte__> because a have a same type partition and that partition's name is fine
[04:53] <jussi01> sorry here now
[04:53] <ompaul> megabyte__, no, not as an iso, but it is understood very well
[04:54] <DBFT> in networking - will it list wireless if it does not detect a wireless card?(the computer lists wireless but wont connect to the network so i need to figure out if it is detecting the card)
[04:54] <Database> Hmm.
[04:54] <PupUser2c276c> what ubuntu stand for anyways?
[04:54] <SmileyLap> jussi01: Ok, this is a straaaaaaange problem, the icon for Konversation wont go into the notification area? Its sitting randomly on the desktop instead.
[04:54] <kurbacik> help on VPN?
[04:54] <megabyte__> i give u a link to a screenshot
[04:54] <Database> It's not an acronym, PupUser2c276c.
[04:54] <Database> Look on teh website.
[04:54] <TheVault> PupUser2c276: There is a video on your live CD if you have one
[04:54] <TheVault> That tells you what Ubuntu means
[04:54] <jussi01> SmileyLap, have you restarted konversation?
[04:54] <kurbacik> does anybody know ho to configure VPN at purdue?
[04:54] <TheVault> its under Desktop > Examples
[04:54] <PupUser2c276c> ya i have the live cd
[04:54] <TheVault> then run it
[04:55] <nomin> jordan: there is a live cd called agnula that's debian that has a demo of audio synthesizing stuff you can do on linux
[04:55] <kurbacik> VPN at Purdue?
[04:55] <TheVault> Watch the video
[04:55] <megabyte__> here's a screenshot http://librarian.launchpad.net/6608695/Screenshot.png
[04:55] <kurbacik> VPN at Purdue in Ubuntu Dapper?
[04:55] <PupUser2c276c> okay vault will do
[04:55] <jussi01> !offtopic | PupUser2c276c
[04:55] <ubotu> PupUser2c276c: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:55] <Database> nvidia-settings isn't giving me the option to configure my monitors... Why?
[04:55] <joerlend> jordan: it's called Ubuntu Studio. They have a webpage.
[04:55] <TheVault> PupUser2C276c: yeah, thats how I learned what the word ubuntu ment
[04:55] <PupUser2c276c> thanks ubotu i keep tha in mind
[04:56] <TheVault> Your welcome :)
[04:56] <jussi01> !ubotu | PupUser2c276c
[04:56] <ubotu> PupUser2c276c: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:56] <nomin> http://ubuntustudio.org/
[04:56] <nomin> that ubuntu studio looks pretty cool
[04:56] <bcstv> I get an erro when I try to start kiba dock
[04:56] <megabyte__> any clue?
[04:56] <bcstv> error
[04:56] <joerlend> nomin: I agree. I'm a musician myself, so I'm really looking forward to trying it out.
[04:57] <PupUser2c276c> is their any small distro's of ubuntu like puppy  linux?
[04:57] <TheVault> To install java runtime system wide, i use sudo apt-get install java5
[04:57] <TheVault> ?
[04:57] <bcstv> (kiba-dock:5812): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_suffix: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[04:57] <Database> Hmmm.
[04:57] <Database> PupUser2c276c: Xubuntu is pretty small.
[04:57] <jussi01> SmileyLap, how did you go?
[04:57] <vox754> TheVault, I think it is "sun-java-jre"
[04:57] <megabyte__> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6608695/Screenshot.png help please
[04:58] <TheVault> vox754: Lemme try that
[04:58] <joerlend> bcstv: that looks like something for #Ubuntu-bugs
[04:58] <bcstv> thx
[04:58] <SmileyLap> hey jussi01, a reboot seems to of sorted it :) Hehhe. Now to fix my other problems - 1. the session doesn't save when i shutdown, 2 - when i hibernate, it just goes into a kind of standby and then doesn't do anything, 3 - setting up media keys, but i think i could prob sort that my self
[04:58] <TheVault> vox754: Nah, says cannot find package
[04:58] <TheVault> its in the package manager right?
[04:59] <TheVault> where you search?
[04:59] <vox754> TheVault, yep, it is  "sun-java5-jre" additionally you can "aptitude search sun-java"
[04:59] <DBFT> in networking - will it list wireless if it does not detect a wireless card?(the computer lists wireless but wont connect to the network so i need to figure out if it is detecting the card)
[04:59] <Munksgaard> Hi! Can anyone tell me, why i haven't got a directory at /usr/src/linux?
[04:59] <jussi01> SmileyLap, media keys are easy
[04:59] <TheVault> vox754: Alright. I'm a linux noob but i'm learning the command quick
[04:59] <jussi01> SmileyLap, are you gnome or kde
[05:00] <vox754> Munksgaard, I guess you are trying to compile something from instructions from a web page.
[05:00] <TheVault> last night i was moving things around in terminal just to make sure I know my commands :D, don't worry, i was only moving pictures that I downloaded and imported
[05:00] <SmileyLap> jussi01: gnome.
[05:00] <Munksgaard> vox754: You got it right
[05:00] <Jvik_> !.xsession
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Jvik_> !xsession
[05:00] <jussi01> SmileyLap, well done...
[05:00] <Jvik_> where can i find the xsession file ?
[05:01] <SmileyLap> jussi01: the biggest problem is the hibernate one :D, it worked before i upgraded to 6.10.... ?
[05:01] <DBFT> someone answer me?
[05:01] <riaal> !ipod
[05:01] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:01] <vox754> Munksgaard, want to find kernels or headers? what package do you want to compile?
[05:01] <ingrix> DBFT: No, if it doesn't find a network card, it won't be able to pick up wireless signals, so your card is detected
[05:01] <Jvik_> Where can i find the .xsession file???
[05:01] <riaal> !rockbox
[05:01] <jussi01> SmileyLap, that one is a mongrel
[05:01] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[05:02] <sarathms> is it possible to have graphics acceleration with an S3 Unichrome graphics chipset? does VIA provide free drivers?
[05:02] <riaal> anyone theink it is possible to run skype and a usb topcom phone?
[05:02] <SmileyLap> jussi01: ..... :D i dont want to hear that :P it was fine before! (oh and the lid doesn't seem to notice if i close it or not.
[05:02] <Munksgaard> vox754: Im trying to install something i found located at: /lib/modules/fglrx in order to get my GFX card working
[05:02] <vox754> Jvik_, "locate .xsession"
[05:02] <GaiaX11> Is there a last.fm package for ubuntu?
[05:02] <ingrix> DBFT: You may have to use wpa_supplicant or xsupplicant if you arent trying to connect to a connection with anything that uses WPA or WPA2
[05:02] <TheVault> got a question. Sometimes when I run a program, it shows it launching but never completes, how do i fix that?
[05:03] <ingrix> DBFT: are trying*  Sorry
[05:03] <sarathms> TheVault, try running it from the terminal and see if it shows some error message
[05:03] <TheVault> alrighty
[05:03] <megabyte__> please help
[05:03] <Jvik_> vox754, i can only find the .xsession-error file..
[05:03] <Jvik_> im following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374
[05:03] <jussi01> GaiaX11, several of the music clients do it
[05:04] <pjesi> any ideas how to install eclipse extensions to eclipse installed with apt?
[05:04] <vox754> sarathms, there is a current bug in the drivers so 3D acceleration works but not perfectly.
[05:04] <megabyte__> I can print my fstab here
[05:04] <bulmer> no
[05:04] <SmileyLap> ok jussi01: how about - how can i disable the mouseclick functionality of my mousepad?
[05:04] <GaiaX11> jussi01: Thx
[05:04] <GaiaX11> jussi01: For example?
[05:04] <deep> !ubuntutesting
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntutesting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <deep> !testing
[05:04] <sarathms> vox754, where can i find information on that?
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <deep> ;<
[05:05] <Munksgaard> !mesa
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Errpast1> Toma-,
[05:05] <vox754> sarathms, search Viaarena and Openchrome on the internet
[05:05] <riaal> what do you think is best? amarok or Banshee?
[05:05] <scv> is ubuntu the real number one?
[05:05] <jussi01> deep, what you looking for?
[05:05] <Toma-> yes?
[05:05] <vox754> sarathms, try "man via"
[05:05] <scv> ^_^
[05:05] <SmileyLap> Anyone -  how can i disable the mouseclick functionality of my mousepad?
[05:05] <deep> jussi01, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing, that. :D I googled it. (:
[05:05] <Errpast1> Toma-, hey, I got it printing.  Not sure exactly what I did, but it's printing.  Format isn't correct. but hey, progress ...;)
[05:05] <rpereira> Hi.  Does someone know if the instability with Firefox and Flash (nonfree) on Edgy was resolved?
[05:06] <Toma-> Errpast1: great! :D
[05:06] <rpereira> Or with Feisty?
[05:06] <vox754> Jvik_, that thread seems like 1 year old, so things may not apply.
[05:06] <jamey> vox754: I did as you said, compiled and instal it all. Now ndiswrapper reports "invalid driver!"
[05:06] <Jvik_> vox754, can you give me link to a proper guide ?
[05:06] <blake__> helo
[05:06] <jussi01> GaiaX11, amorak
[05:06] <riaal> !ipod
[05:06] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:07] <jussi01> SmileyLap, you need gsynaptics
[05:07] <vox754> Jvik_, sorry. I guess it should work. Are you trying to set up mouse buttons, scroll and that?
[05:07] <noodles12> !KVM
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <megabyte__> so, does anyone have a clue why gnome prints some random characters instead of HDA5?
[05:07] <Jvik_> vox754, the forward and backward button on my mx 518 doesnt work
[05:07] <Jvik_> in ubuntu
[05:07] <GaiaX11> scv: Yes. It seems to be:  http://distrowatch.com/
[05:08] <GaiaX11> jussi01: thx again.
[05:08] <jussi01> GaiaX11, np's
[05:08] <scv> GaiaX11: O.O you are too LATE
[05:08] <jamey> vox754: yeah, it's a very new Vista laptop
[05:08] <blake__> I installed ubuntu and it works, but i want to put slackware back on... but now, fdisk is unable to open /dev/hda ! Please help me
[05:08] <vox754> jamey, remove it. That means running "make uninstall" many times. Then remove "rm -rf" every single file about ndis... wait Vista?!
[05:08] <GaiaX11> scv: Why?
[05:08] <Toma-> blake__: are you using that disk?
[05:09] <blake__> Toma-, what disk?
[05:09] <Toma-> /dev/hda
[05:09] <blake__> i did in the past
[05:09] <scv> GaiaX11: I said that for a long time ago
[05:09] <vox754> jamey, I think Vista uses a new NDIS6 language which is currently being implemented by the developers, so you just have to wait.
[05:09] <ompaul> jamey, this is not a vista help channel see ##windows thanks
[05:09] <Jvik_> vox754, any idea ?
[05:09] <Toma-> blake__: so youre not running ubuntu off /dev/hda and trying to format /dev/hda or soemthing at the same time?
[05:09] <jamey> ompaul: what!? you really don't read much do you....
[05:10] <riaal> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? =S
[05:10] <blake__> Toma-, i checked /etc/fstab and it only mentions /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc... but i tried fstabbing hdb and it was also unable to open it
[05:10] <vox754> Jvik_, my mouse works okay. I guess, yours is not very standard. Mine has like 8 buttons.
[05:10] <blake__> Toma-, no i booted the slackware install disc
[05:10] <ingrix> riaal: Kubuntu uses the KDE 3 GUI, while Ubuntu uses GNOME
[05:10] <Toma-> blake__: ahh ok
[05:10] <Jvik_> vox754, i have Logitech MX518.
[05:10] <GaiaX11> scv: It means that I take people question seriously. And I gave you a site to check that up. Be mor polite, please.
[05:10] <ingrix> riaal: There are different GUI programs that run on each.  Like Ubuntu has the Synaptic Package Manager, and Kubuntu has Adept Package Manager
[05:11] <blake__> Toma-, any ideas then? :(
[05:11] <ompaul> jamey, not enough it appears
[05:11] <Toma-> blake__: no, sorry :(
[05:11] <blake__> damn
[05:11] <blake__> thanks anyway
[05:12] <vox754> Jvik_, look at your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" I'll give you my "Input Device" information so you can compare
[05:12] <riaal> ingrix, oh okey, bacecly the "graphical engine"?
[05:12] <Toma-> blake__: what kind of "cant access" error?
[05:12] <ingrix> riaal: Mostly.  The kernel and most of the command line apps are the same
[05:12] <Toma-> blake__: also, ask in #slackware
[05:12] <Jvik_> vox754, np. I found a guide for 518
[05:12] <blake__> Toma-, it just says "Unable to open /dev/hda"
[05:12] <vox754> ompaul, take it easy boss...
[05:12] <blake__> Toma-, ok good idea i'll ask there
[05:12] <Toma-> blake__: try /dev/hda1 ?
[05:12] <ingrix> riaal: I tell people to choose based on the cosmetic difference.  So whatever is more appealing to your eyeball is probably good for you
[05:13] <blake__> Toma-, i tried that
[05:13] <Toma-> ok
[05:13] <leo|server> i have downloaded a avi to my windows computer over ftp, and now the avi doesnt work, what is wrong?
[05:13] <SmileyLap> gsynaptics - is this is ubuntus reps?
[05:13] <vox754> jamey, if you want to speed up development of ndiswrapper donate to the project. About 100 would be fine to start.
[05:13] <Toma-> !restrictedformats | leo|server
[05:13] <ubotu> leo|server: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <blake__> Toma-, bye, thanks
[05:13] <Toma-> np cya
[05:14] <riaal> ingrix, Im using ubuntu, but when I was going to download Amarok, it said "for kubuntu"
[05:14] <aleitner> i am trying to upgrade a test machine to feisty, but "update-manager -d" does not show me any new release. what am i doing wrong?
[05:14] <vox754> Jvik_, still, you can give me your information so I can compare too.
[05:14] <ompaul> vox754, did you not see me saying I obviously did not read enough .. I scrolled back to read it again
[05:14] <leo|server> ok thx
[05:14] <riaal> ingrix, Can I use it whit ubuntu 2?
[05:14] <leo|server> i will have a look
[05:14] <SmileyLap> gsynaptics < i can't find this package, does ubuntu have it?
[05:14] <vox754> ompaul, yeah, I know. I was just teasing you because you are an OP.
[05:15] <ingrix> riaal: I don't think so.  It looks like it's a KDE application
[05:15] <jamey> vox754: you wouldn't know how to recover the Vista partition once I've GRUB'd it all would you?
[05:15] <riaal> ingrix, okey, thanks for the help mate
[05:15] <ingrix> riaal: Something you can do though, is if you want, install the kubuntu-desktop package, which installs KDE
[05:15] <fatezero> I've got kind of a weird problem with ubuntu that maybe someone can help me with?
[05:15] <ingrix> You could also get XMMS if you want a good audio player like Winamp
[05:16] <ingrix> fatezero: Ask your question
[05:16] <vox754> jamey, I think same as with XP. You boot up Vista CD and tell it to recover the Master Boot Record.
[05:16] <riaal> ingrix, sounds difficult?
[05:16] <CBunny> ingrix, isn't xmms no longer maintained - the devs working on the new version?
[05:16] <keir_> hi i'm having some beryl problems lol
[05:16] <CBunny> CBunny, i know it's been removed from portage
[05:16] <ingrix> CBunny: It might not be, but I don't know
[05:16] <fatezero> Okay, well I've installed ubuntu onto one of my machines and it works great except for it's internet connection.
[05:17] <ingrix> fatezero: Wireless or wired?
[05:17] <SmileyLap> gsynaptics < i can't find this package, does ubuntu have it?
[05:17] <fatezero> Wired
[05:17] <ingrix> riaal: It's really not difficult
[05:17] <fatezero> It's a shared connection through a router.
[05:17] <Wolfcutter> wow took a while to get here
[05:17] <Wolfcutter> lol
[05:17] <riaal> ingrix, will it slow down everything or messup something? =P
[05:17] <vox754> SmileyLap, "aptitude search synaptic" there it is
[05:17] <ingrix> riaal: It will take up some memory, but you can choose which GUI to use when you login
[05:18] <fatezero> Which works, but the ubuntu machine can only connect to servers that other machines have been to.
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, yea, it's in the repositories, but you may have to add universe and/or multiverse to get it
[05:18] <SmileyLap> vox754: im using the package manager,  :o
[05:18] <fatezero> So, for instance, I can't connect to google until one of the other computers on the network has been to it first.
[05:18] <SmileyLap> is it called qsynaptic ?
[05:18] <ingrix> riaal: in a terminal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <riaal> ingrix, wow, thats sounds relly cool, what about my programs etc.?
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, it's called gsynaptics
[05:18] <SmileyLap> ok hum, i dont think i've added the irght repo's
[05:18] <SmileyLap> :/
[05:18] <vox754> FunnyLookinHat, "aptitude search synaptic" there it is
[05:18] <SmileyLap> !repoistory
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repoistory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <ingrix> riaal: The only problem with installing more than one destkop is that the menu buttons from both desktops will be included in the menu when you are using one of them
[05:19] <SmileyLap> erm, /me needs help setting up the repo's
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, if you have Synaptic package manager open  I can help you add them easily
[05:19] <ingrix> You can't really keep them separate
[05:19] <SmileyLap> yeah i do FunnyLookinHat:)
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, Go to Settings - Repositories
[05:19] <megabyte_01> can someone please help me, with my gnome problem
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, check the four boxes in that first main window, and uncheck the box next to CD-Rom
[05:19] <ingrix> riaal: But the last time I did it I could run KDE and GNOME apps on either of them, since the right stuff was there
[05:19] <riaal> ingrix, oh, witch one do you use?
[05:19] <Database> Hmm.
[05:19] <leo|server> Toma-,  ubotu, that looks like it has to do with playing stuff on the ubuntu computer, this is about how the ftpserver makes the file broken on a windows computer after it has downloaded it
[05:20] <Database> commandline text-editor, please?
[05:20] <ingrix> riaal: I prefer GNOME
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, then click Close
[05:20] <Errpast1> !pastebin
[05:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:20] <dgx> Hi all :)
[05:20] <vox754> Database, "nano"
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, and click "Reload" on the main Synaptic window
[05:20] <Wolfcutter> how do I add Java or Flash?
[05:20] <Database> Thanks.
[05:20] <riaal> ingrix, think I will stick to it for a while as im new to this, thanks for the help!
[05:20] <ingrix> No problem
[05:20] <SmileyLap> FunnyLookinHat: they are all on, and there is nothing in the CDrom box.
[05:20] <directhex> i've got a problem with extremely high cpu load accompanying disk access on my server box. disks are a raid5 array behind an lsi megeraid hardware raid controller, megaraid_mbox module
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, ok, click "Close" and then click "Reload" in the main Synaptic page
[05:21] <SmileyLap> FunnyLookinHat: ah i've done this before
[05:21] <megabyte_01> so , why gnome prints a wrong partition name
[05:21] <SmileyLap> some of them always fail; tho?
[05:21] <megabyte_01> plase help
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, this is weird, it's not showing up for me in the package manager, but it does show up in the console....
[05:21] <riaal> anyone know if I can use Amarok whit GNOME?
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, try this: Go to Applications - Accessories - Terminal
[05:21] <SmileyLap> ok FunnyLookinHathahaha, ill do it in the console
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> riaal, yea you can, I do and i love it
[05:22] <directhex> riaal, why wouldn't you?
[05:22] <riaal> FunnyLookinHat, great, cheers
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, then just type this command:  sudo apt-get install gsynaptics
[05:22] <SmileyLap> will the gui know what i do in the console FunnyLookinHat?
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, yup.
[05:22] <dgx> I wonder if anyone can help with my Graphic card problem?
[05:22] <SmileyLap> FunnyLookinHat:
[05:22] <SmileyLap> well this time it updated correctly :) and now it shows up in the gui :)
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> directhex, because Amarok uses QT as it's graphics lib and Gnome is built on GTK...    few distros make the transition as easy as ubuntu
[05:23] <SmileyLap> hahaha, every other time its failed half of them :)
[05:23] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, oh sweet, go figure.
[05:23] <dgx> I'm running on a Radeon 9200 SE... Looked around the net everywhere for drivers to enable me to get a higher res than 1024x768 but, no luck..
[05:23] <FunnyLookinHat> !ATI
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:23] <FunnyLookinHat> dgx, go to that link above  ^^^    : )
[05:23] <dgx> Tried a couple of things - not just a lazy request.
[05:23] <Lr5> !dualhead
[05:23] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:23] <dgx> Thanks FunnyLookinHat  :)
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> dgx, no problemo dude
[05:24] <SmileyLap> GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[05:24] <SmileyLap> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[05:24] <directhex> FunnyLookinHat, why would the windowing toolkit make a difference? gtk+, qt, xaw3d, motif, wxwidgets, whatever. they're all just libraries
[05:24] <ingrix> What is a good audio player for GNOME besides rhythmbox and XMMS?
[05:24] <Lr5> currently it ends in "firefox already running" and fails to open on another display
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> directhex, right...  but until the last year or so, it did make a difference... don't blame me, blame developers.
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, cool, we can do this
[05:24] <megabyte_01> can some one help me????
[05:24] <h3xagram> hello, does anyone know where i can get old sound scheme? the new scheme sounds too 'african'
[05:25] <ingrix> megabyte_01: Could you explain it a little better?
[05:25] <vox754> directhex, I guess they all have subtle differences. Like menus don't behave the same, or scrollbars.
[05:25] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, Can you find a line with "SHMConfig" on it?  if so, set the value next to it to "True" and then you will have to restart X (Control _ Alt _ Backspace)
[05:25] <SmileyLap> i can't find the line FunnyLookinHat:/
[05:25] <Lr5> megabyte_01: how?
[05:25] <SmileyLap> which section should it be in :?
[05:25] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, ok one sec.
[05:25] <directhex> vox754, correct. but that doesn't stop you from using them
[05:25] <dgx> "The model number for your Radeon card is a 9500 pro or above"
[05:25] <larson9999> i feel like a moron for not being able to find this.  but where can i get cd art for fiesty fawn?
[05:26] <directhex> vox754, i used k3b (qt) as my cd burner of choice on xfce4 (gtk2) for years
[05:26] <dgx> Is 9200 not supported in 6.10 edgy? :/
[05:26] <SmileyLap> FunnyLookinHat: wont it be in the device section, for hte touch pad
[05:26] <Errpast1> I finally (3 hours) got my Brother 2070N to network print from Ubuntu 6.06.  BUT, the margins are not right.  Prints all the way to the bottom.  Properties on the printer doesn
[05:26] <Lr5> dgx: I guess that means newer than that
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, I think so
[05:26] <ompaul> larson9999, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <SmileyLap> GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[05:26] <SmileyLap> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[05:26] <Errpast1> doesn't give me much choice.
[05:26] <Jvik> Can anyone give me a proper guide to installing Logitech MX 518
[05:26] <SmileyLap> whoops
[05:26] <directhex> Jvik, plug it in
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Jvik,  mine works fine
[05:26] <dgx> Lr5, does that mean I need a new video card? Or are there ways round that?
[05:26] <Jvik> directhex, yeah. But forwards and backwards button doesnt work
[05:26] <vox754> Jvik, what happened you could use that guide?
[05:26] <SmileyLap> as an Option "SHMConfig"     "true"
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, but you are also going to have to add a line to your Module section
[05:27] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, see this post:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[05:27] <Jvik> vox754, the guide didnt work.. Nothing happend
[05:27] <Lr5> dgx: no idea, I have no experience with drivers yet
[05:27] <SmileyLap> FunnyLookinHat: can i msg you?
[05:27] <dgx> hehe :) Thanks anyway Lr5.
[05:27] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, Sure.
[05:27] <ffxr> hi does some have the syntax for dpkg to create a .deb from a configure file..
[05:27] <ffxr> ?
[05:27] <gaspipe1> anyone familiar with Konverstaion?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ffxr,  you mean a source code ./configure stuff?
[05:28] <vox754> Jvik, still, I'm dying to see what's in your xorg.conf
[05:28] <FunnyLookinHat> ffxr, it's a bit more complex than that...   Try asking the guys in #ubuntu-motu for a tutorial page on package building
[05:28] <Munksgaard> !symlink
[05:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:28] <ingrix> gaspipe1: You might have better luck in the #kubuntu channel
[05:28] <dgx> I'll try running through the install instructions anyway.
[05:28] <Jvik> 2sec vox754
[05:28] <ingrix> gaspipe1: Although what do you need to know about it?
[05:28] <gaspipe1> ingrix: thanks....i tried that I can't seem to log in with my identity w/o sending nickserv a pm
[05:28] <ffxr> yeh Dr_willis... isnt there a a command to create a deb from ./configue.. ok FunnyLookinHat i was aware it was any more complicated... ll have a look at that link thanks..
[05:29] <Jvik> vox754, http://hashbin.com/2c7.html
[05:29] <directhex> dh_make. or checkconfig
[05:29] <directhex> both are a bit iffy
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ffxr,  thers some build deb command that can make one from source code.. but its not very reliable
[05:29] <vox754> ffxr, the forums, I think there are guides to create a good deb http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44
[05:30] <Lr5> Or well, perhaps the bot's way is easier to remember...
[05:30] <alecjw> hi. a user on my ocmputer cant use sudo. how do i allow him to?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> alecjw,  edit the sudoers file is one way,, but i think there may be a better way/group he needs to be in
[05:30] <SmileyLap> thanks FunnyLookinHat! ^_^ you rock :)
[05:31] <ompaul> alecjw, you add them to /etc/sudoers or you click on system administration users & groups and add the administration ability
[05:31] <Dr_willis> alecjw,  you want him to have full 'sudo' access?
[05:31] <FunnyLookinHat> SmileyLap, it worked?  cool beans man
[05:31] <megabyte_01> here's the problem
[05:31] <megabyte_01>  i have 5 partitions
[05:31] <toporow> hi all
[05:31] <alecjw> Dr_willis, i want hinm to be able to use sudo. do i jsut add his username to the end of /etc/sudoers?
[05:31] <Jvik> vox754, whats wrong in xorg ?
[05:31] <vox754> Jvik, wow! your section is identical to mine.
[05:31] <megabyte_01>  1xntfs 1xswap 1xreiserfs 2x fat42( hda5 and hda6)
[05:31] <toporow> do you speak polish??
[05:31] <megabyte_01>  on my desktop y see hda1 hda6 but what should be hda5 has some random characters
[05:31] <ffxr> ok.. Dr_willis, if the make includes a make uninstall option, i should be safe enough in terms of clean up? you see, i want to uprade a package, but the only way i can do it is building it from source.., m worried about how the make deals with upgrades.. i thought itd be safer if i created a package... cheers vox754
[05:31] <megabyte_01> help please
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> alecjw, Dr_willis    don't over complicate it.  Just go to Administration _ Users and Groups   ---  Properties of the user you are editing, and go to Privileges tab
[05:32] <ompaul> !pl | toporow
[05:32] <ubotu> toporow: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:32] <alecjw> FunnyLookinHat, i dont have anyhtign graphical
[05:32] <Jvik> is "emulate 3 buttons" correct vox754  ?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> FunnyLookinHat,  you are talking to someone thats used to the console. :)
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> alecjw, ahhh gross.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> FunnyLookinHat,  heh heh...
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> alecjw, then you will have to do it with the console method.
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Dr_willis, I'm a console guy too  : )    But I found it's better to teach people to learn to use the GUI and find answers on their own...
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Dr_willis, go fig.
[05:33] <alecjw> FunnyLookinHat, so iu have to add the username ot the end of /etc/sudoers?
[05:33] <d00by> can anybody help me set up xinerama please
[05:33] <vox754> Jvik, it works for me.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:33] <Dr_willis> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:33] <Jvik> vox754, xev does respond on mouseclick with forward and backwards button
[05:33] <FunnyLookinHat> alecjw, well, I would add the user to the admin group.....
[05:33] <Dr_willis> so it looks like the guy has to be in the admin group.  and he should be able to sudo
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Dr_willis, I forget how to do groups w/ console...  maybe you could help him?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> FunnyLookinHat,  i dont rember either. :) i always edit the /etc/groups file
[05:34] <megabyte_01>  on my desktop y see hda1 hda6 but what should be hda5 has some random characters, why???
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Dr_willis, ahh that's right, go for it
[05:34] <keir_> Hi, could any one give me a hand? Got a Beryl prob
[05:35] <Dr_willis> in /etc/group theres a ----->  admin:x:115:willis     I would guess ya add the users to the end.. or use the commands that do it properly for ya. ;)
[05:35] <vox754> SmileyLap, what is that you worked out?
[05:35] <directhex> adduser username groupname
[05:35] <Mondus> Hi people.. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine using an ATI Radeon x800gto .. but the live cd wont start up.. "no screens found".. are there any issues concerning ati graphics cards?
[05:36] <megabyte_01>  on my desktop I see hda1 hda6 but what should be hda5 has some random characters,why?
[05:36] <keir_> well i got beryl installed and mines claiming no manageable screens found on display :1.0
[05:36] <h3xagram> !pastebin
[05:36] <keir_> and i'm on ATI
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:36] <alecjw> FunnyLookinHat, Dr_willis, ompaul, thatnks - it's fidex now :)
[05:36] <alecjw> *fixed
[05:36] <quaal> hi
[05:36] <vox754> megabyte_01, can you post a picture? hda5 is the first logical unit of the extended partition right?
[05:37] <h3xagram> hello, im having an issue running frozen-bubble
[05:37] <fatezero> Okay, I fixed my problem by disabling IPv6
[05:37] <h3xagram> if anyone can help me, i would appreciate it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8626/
[05:37] <megabyte_01> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6608695/Screenshot.png
[05:37] <megabyte_01> yes
[05:37] <tuxplorer> while booting my ubuntu edgy, I get the following error from fsck and get a terminal asking me to repair my filesystem, on quitting which I get my GDM. can someone help me with it? http://paste.uni.cc/13433
[05:37] <directhex> how do i set parameters for kernel modules loaded at boot time from initrd?
[05:37] <linux_kid> That Add/Remove Programs thingy just disappeared from my applications menu.  how do i get it back (like, is it in the repo's?)
[05:38] <megabyte_01> it has the correct naem in "/media"
[05:38] <h3xagram> anyone? :(
[05:38] <megabyte_01>  it has the correct name in "/media"
[05:38] <lowcrash> quit
[05:39] <lowcrash> exit
[05:39] <vox754> megabyte_01, wow! strange. Maybe utf8 in the fstab entry to display characters correctly
[05:39] <megabyte_01> there is utf8 in fstab
[05:39] <Christopher> hello
[05:39] <Database> Jeez.
[05:39] <megabyte_01> i tried to remove it
[05:39] <Database> This is taking a while. :P
[05:39] <megabyte_01> same result
[05:39] <ingrix> linux_kid: Right click the applications menu, go to "edit menus" and then click applications.  In the right box at the bottom there should be a checkbox next to "add/remove programs"  Click it.
[05:40] <jay> is python-2.4gtk2 available for edgy?
[05:40] <vox754> megabyte_01, you need to know exactly what filesystem it has and what options are admissible to it, maybe reading "man mount" and also you need an umask=0777 or something, I can't recall.
[05:40] <HoffmannP> good morning everybody
[05:40] <HoffmannP> Can anyone tell me what happend to wireless lan in Edgy?
[05:41] <vox754> jay, "aptitude search python"
[05:41] <megabyte_01> in the device manager is the same random charactes _w
[05:41] <megabyte_01> !K{Z!
[05:41] <jay> I don't think it is, already tried that :)
[05:41] <megabyte_01> I have an identical partitions hda6
[05:42] <megabyte_01> fat32 about 30 GB
[05:42] <HoffmannP> Why is there suddenly an wlan0 and a wmaster0-adapter?
[05:42] <HoffmannP> Any why is my rausb0 not loaded any more
[05:42] <vox754> h3xagram, I think you can install "frozen-bubble" with aptitude. How are you trying to run it? from a *.tar.gz?
[05:43] <megabyte_01> damn
[05:43] <megabyte_01> even slackware is easyer to figure out
[05:43] <vox754> HoffmannP, did you use ndiswrapper? I think rausb conflicts with it.
[05:43] <HoffmannP> >Can anyone tell me what happend to wireless lan in Edgy?/kernel 2.6.17?
[05:43] <HoffmannP> vox: never
[05:44] <HoffmannP> vox754: I even deinstalled that, I had to compile my kernel my self
[05:44] <HoffmannP> vox754: And usualy after inserting that module in the kernel it would have an rausb0-adapter which I could use for wireless lan
[05:45] <vox754> megabyte_01, I heard Slackware is the first distribution but what makes it special?
[05:45] <vox754> HoffmannP, mmm... that seems something I'm not experienced with.
[05:45] <Davidian> salut
[05:45] <ingrix> vox754: It is based on ease of computing, not user-friendliness
[05:45] <knovak> Anyone know the solution to my nvidia problems (explained here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375627&page=2)?
[05:45] <nikin> is there any smaller Ubuntu version than Xubuntu?
[05:45] <megabyte_01> it show the correct partition name :)
[05:46] <HoffmannP> vox754: Thankyou anyway for the try
[05:46] <vox754> megabyte_01, so, you just need to give it time, I guess.
[05:46] <nikin> ;                     http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375627&page=2)?
[05:46] <DBFT> is there a way to have my wireless network card search and list access points? iwlist ap returns Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points on lo ra0 eth0 and sit0
[05:46] <nikin> sorry
[05:46] <megabyte_01> slackware had my time, a lot of it
[05:46] <megabyte_01> ubuntu will get his part
[05:47] <knovak> Anyone here have experience with nVidia cards? Because i'm having trouble with mine
[05:47] <upd> hi, how can i add some program in startup?
[05:47] <ingrix> DBFT: Is that actually what it says, or does it say "Interface doesn't support scanning" or something like that?
[05:47] <megabyte_01> this is the only problem I have so far with ubuntu
[05:47] <DBFT> thats what it says ingrix
[05:47] <vox754> !startup
[05:47] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[05:47] <DBFT> Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[05:47] <ardchoille> knovak: I have some experience with nvidia. What's up?
[05:47] <upd> vox754, tnx
[05:47] <knovak> ardchoille: My problem is explained in detail here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375627&page=2, but if its a problem I can type it out
[05:48] <ardchoille> knovak: I don't think I can help, I don't use Edgy or GLX
[05:49] <knovak> hmm, alright, thanks anyway
[05:49] <ingrix> DBFT: It looks like your card isn't set up properly
[05:49] <ingrix> DBFT: What kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:49] <rlj> i noticed some "new" linux-x-generic packages which claim to superseed the linux-x-k7 packages and similar. currently, i'm on a linux-x-386 kernel, running on an amd athlon64 processor. which kernel will perform best on my newish hardware? is linux-x-generic geared towards newer cpus than linux-x-386 and will i notice an improvement if i use that kernel instead?
[05:50] <rlj> or is linux-x-generic even more generic and "works on all cpus" than the -386 branch
[05:50] <rlj> ?
[05:50] <DBFT> ingrix, im not sure -its not my pc, hmm
[05:50] <vox754> rlj, yes I think generic is better. Which processor do you have?
[05:50] <DBFT> ingrix, is there a way to find out?
[05:50] <Flamekebab> why is it that when I use Skype it automatically and at random lowers my mic's input volume?
[05:50] <ingrix> DBFT: lspci
[05:50] <Flamekebab> it's infuriating..
[05:51] <scizzy> hey guys, stupid question but i finally got all my stuff working I think... but is there any way to make my wireless "active" when ubuntu loads... cuz now each time I have to double click on the icon and activate it!???  any ideas?
[05:51] <vox754> ingrix, ease of computing in Slackware? what does that mean?
[05:51] <ingrix> vox754: It means it is programmed to be easy for the computer, not for the end-user
[05:51] <DBFT> ok im gonna run downstairs :D
[05:51] <DBFT> brb
[05:51] <rlj> vox754: amd athlon64 3500+ in a socket939 i think. a desktop cpu in a laptop box...
[05:51] <keir_> Can anyone help with this:::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8629/
[05:51] <vox754> scizzy, look "/etc/network/interface" then add "auto eth0" or something
[05:51] <nikin> Is there a way to set maximum resoure usage for a program/process? i mean if i want a program to maximaly use 10Mb of RAM and only SWAP above that, and i want it to use not more than 5% of CPU power at any time
[05:51] <ingrix> vox754: So while the computer will run slackware really well, the user can get frustrated sooo easily
[05:52] <scizzy> ok let me check
[05:52] <gopp> !security
[05:52] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[05:52] <FunnyLookinHat> keir_, You should probably ask in #ubuntu-effects since it deals with beryl/compiz
[05:52] <keir_> ah thanks :)
[05:52] <yoopernate> does anyone use evolution with gmail....i'm having problems sending mail and was wondering how to make it work
[05:53] <scizzy> vox, it is already in there... as "wlan0"
[05:53] <fevel> hello, Im a translator in Brazil, and I would like to know if theres any tools to help a translator with his job for ubuntu, I know of such tools for windows but not for ubuntu
[05:53] <vox754> nikin, aaaaah. I think I've read what you want to do on a Gentoo forum.
[05:53] <yoopernate> all of the forums i've seen say i have the right settings but it still doesn't go
[05:53] <DBFT> Broadcom Corporation somethingsomething 802.11g Wireless something
[05:53] <fevel> as soon as i get a hold of one ill be helping on the feisty translation
[05:53] <DBFT> (sorry its in the other room :))
[05:53] <vox754> scizzy, you said you have to click a button? maybe that is all it takes.
[05:53] <cables> Does anyone know of a third party Remote Desktop server that works on XP? VNC is so damn slow, and Ubuntu has a Remote Desktop client, and I'd really like to be able to use that.
[05:54] <nikin> yoopernate... dubblecheck port and conection settings ... i had problems wit h that.. but i dont remember, and use Thunderbird nowdays
[05:54] <Flamekebab> anyone?
[05:54] <ingrix> DBFT: You should probably install ndiswrapper then
[05:54] <Saulhudson__> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu but I can't use any USB dispositive. If I put an USB dispositive it crashes and I have to restart my computer. What should I do?
[05:54] <ingrix> DBFT: Is it a Dell 1390?
[05:54] <darkcommon> how I can to change the driver of Xorg
[05:54] <DBFT> nope
[05:54] <scizzy> i mean i have to right click on the networking icon in the top right, click properties and activate each time
[05:54] <DBFT> how would i install ndiswrapper without the internet? :p
[05:54] <scizzy> i was hoping that it would automatically do this when ubuntu loads
[05:54] <DBFT> but will that get it working anyway?
[05:54] <vox754> ingrix, I think Broadcom is supported by Linux kernel
[05:54] <nikin> vox754: can u send me a link?
[05:55] <ingrix> vox754: It has a driver to do that, but it is really really buggy and only works on a couple broadcom cards
[05:55] <vox754> nikin, about what?
[05:55] <Danny> I installed Ubuntu and it said there were 116 updates. I installed them and the next time i came back to the computer it was turned off. When i turned it on it no longer had a wireless connection. Can somebody help me?
[05:55] <vox754> DBFT, ingrix http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices I guess you are right.
[05:55] <ingrix> DBFT: Does it have the build-essential package installed on it?
[05:55] <Saulhudson__> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu but I can't use any USB dispositive. If I put an USB dispositive it crashes and I have to restart my computer. What should I do?
[05:55] <DBFT> possibly
[05:56] <Danny> the what package?
[05:56] <DBFT> i just downloaded and installed in text mode - anything which is installed by default is installed
[05:56] <techie> can anybody help: When I insert my cd in my cdrom to play it tells me that the totem player has not url handler setup or installed. What does it mean?
[05:56] <darkcommon> HOW I CAN TO CHANGE THE XORG DRIVERS!
[05:56] <vox754> nikin, ah the processor speed. I forgot.
[05:56] <Danny> if somebody can help me get my internet working please semd me a message
[05:56] <nikin> yep
[05:56] <wann> salut
[05:56] <ikonia> dannywhats the problem
[05:56] <Flamekebab> why is it that when I use Skype it automatically and at random lowers my mic's input volume?
[05:56] <ikonia> danny what's the problem
[05:57] <Danny> I installed Ubuntu and it said there were 116 updates. I installed them and the next time i came back to the computer it was turned off. When i turned it on it no longer had a wireless connection.
[05:57] <techie> It actually said no iri handler implemented for vcd
[05:57] <vox754> darkcommon, you open the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and edit the driver in the appropriate section.
[05:57] <corevette> how do i edit what the options are on GRUB?
[05:57] <ikonia> danny one of the updates possibly broke your wirless driver, try reconfiguring it
[05:57] <ingrix> DBFT: Any chance you can get internet on it at all?  Wired or otherwise?
[05:57] <ikonia> corevette: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:57] <Danny> i dont know how
[05:57] <Danny> i'm new to linux
[05:57] <ikonia> !wireless >danny
[05:57] <techie> ikonia "the no url handler implemented for vcd" , does that mean my vcd is not setup in ubuntu?
[05:57] <Askar> Hi! I am using edgy and I am thinking of upgrading to feisty, it seems to be pretty stable (?). Is it a good idea?
[05:57] <darkcommon> vox754 for an VIA card... who?
[05:57] <Askar> If so, how do I do it simpliest?
[05:57] <techie> ikonia it happens when i try to use my cdrom0
[05:58] <Danny> i already looked at the wireless docs
[05:58] <Danny> and all that stuff
[05:58] <ikonia> techie: it means nothing is available to manage vcd files
[05:58] <vox754> Danny, did the wireless worked natively? that is without you touching anything?
[05:58] <Danny> i came here because i couldn't figure it out
[05:58] <Danny> at first, yes
[05:58] <ikonia> danny what have you tried
[05:58] <techie> ikonia how do i install or manage the vdd files?
[05:58] <rcmiv> hello!  how can I check ubuntu version from the command line?
[05:58] <ikonia> techie: I don't know what vdd files
[05:58] <vox754> darkcommon, VIA uses the "via" driver, but initially it can run also with "vesa", which is crap.
[05:58] <Danny> dound all the stuff in the wireless troubleshooting guide thingy
[05:58] <ikonia> rcmiv: lsb_release
[05:58] <techie> ikonia vcd files.
[05:58] <ikonia> danny like what ?
[05:58] <Danny> but i have to admit i really don't know what i'm doing
[05:59] <rcmiv> ikonia thx
[05:59] <ikonia> techie: video cd files ?
[05:59] <darkcommon> vox754 for use beryl??
[05:59] <Danny> trying to check if there was a driver
[05:59] <techie> ikonia yes
[05:59] <rlj> Askar: if you want to stay stable and avoid potential trouble, wait until it's released
[05:59] <ingrix> DBFT: Any chance you can get internet on it at all?  Wired or otherwise?
[05:59] <Saulhudson__> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu but I can't use any USB dispositive. If I put an USB dispositive it crashes and I have to restart my computer. What should I do?
[05:59] <arcad3> can someone paste me the inittab file from /etc?
[05:59] <Danny> i tried wireless and it didn't work
[05:59] <arcad3> i broke mine
[05:59] <Danny> i mean wired
[05:59] <rcmiv> ikonia didn't work....
[05:59] <vox754> darkcommon, I don't think you can run beryl with VIA. I suppose you have an Integrated Graphics Card either on PC or a cheap Laptop.
[06:00] <Askar> rlj: when it is released how do I do? Do i have to burn it on a cd or just run some sort of upgrade?
[06:00] <yoopernate> does anyone know a good mail client that has the same functionality as evolution...i know tb is an option but i was hoping to try something new
[06:00] <arcad3> !inittab
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Saulhudson__> anyone may help me??
[06:00] <darkcommon> vox754 an Integrated, of an MSI, and I don't want to open my PC (for close, It's very hard!!)
[06:00] <rlj> Askar: you can probably upgrade without cd. i upgraded from dapper to edgy on an installed system without any major headaches
[06:00] <darkcommon> !initb
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <rlj> Askar: some people had troubles though
[06:00] <ITSa341> Has anyone had any luck or ideas for connecting a kyocera candid cell phone in linux? I can get the os to recognize the port but not recognize it as a modem. I tried using ndiswrapper but it says invalid driver.
[06:00] <DaveTarmac> vox754: still nil luck with this wired network. do you have any suggestions (short of trying a reinstall with the cable in)
[06:01] <ikonia> danny go into the network manager and see if you can see a network card
[06:01] <techie> anyone... how do i setup my cdrom0 to work?
[06:01] <darkcommon> how I can to install an EyeToy cam on edgy??
[06:01] <rcmiv> how can I check ubuntu version from the command line?
[06:01] <ikonia> techie: what do you mean ?
[06:01] <ikonia> rcmiv: lsb_release
[06:01] <rlj> Askar: let's hope the edgy->feisty upgrade process will be painless for everyone. but in order for it to be, the devs need to squish all bugs first, so if you want to potentially screw your system slightly and help the devs fix it, go ahead. if all you want is stable, wait until it's released. that's my advice
[06:01] <hflappy> ok if vmware-player error'd out then how can i possibly "force" remove it
[06:01] <rcmiv> ikonia, yep did that, got 'no lsb modules are available'
[06:01] <xamox> where is the trash located?
[06:01] <xamox> what directory?
[06:01] <Otacon22> hey, anyone can help me to give the 3d acceleration to a ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) ? I am working on it for 4 hours: i installed mach64 dri module but the direct rendering is always NO...
[06:02] <corevette> how do i add windows xp to the grub menu?
[06:02] <ikonia> rcmiv: lsb_release -d
[06:02] <vox754> DaveTarmac, oh boy. Maybe, this. Go to the motherboard manufacturer, look for specific drivers and modules and compile your own kernel. This shouldn't be necessary since most driver are integrated into the generic kernel anyways.
[06:02] <ingrix> Otacon22: Have you tried looking up the fglrx driver?
[06:02] <techie> ikonia... it says Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrom0 amnand uner that isaid No uri handler implemented for "vcd"
[06:02] <vox754> DaveTarmac, reinstall, why not?
[06:02] <rcmiv> ikonia, thx, worked
[06:02] <hjmills> why does my torrent client always seem to drop out at 99% - its rather infuriating and seems to happen far too often to be chance
[06:02] <rlj> corevette: ubuntu should've automatically added it if it was installed when you installed ubuntu
[06:02] <ikonia> techie: thats nothing to do with your cdrom
[06:02] <ikonia> thats to do with no applications being aware of the codec for that file
[06:02] <rlj> corevette: otherise, pm me and i'll send you the lines for your /etc/grub/menu.lst
[06:03] <Danny> is there any chance i could get a 1 on 1 talk with someone who could help me figure out what's went wrong with my wireless? I'm really confused here
[06:03] <nikin> i found a program called cpulimit
[06:03] <Otacon22> ya ingrix but my card is old for them, i also tryed to use the ati script to create the sources packages to compile but don't work.
[06:03] <ikonia> danny best asking in the channel, have you done the debugging I suggested
[06:03] <techie> ikonia..... then which type of codec do I look for to play that. These are bought video I used to play when in xp
[06:03] <ikonia> techie: it doesn't matter what XP can or can't do
[06:03] <Danny> debugging? i really don't know what i'm doing...
[06:03] <ikonia> techie: what codecs where they made with
[06:03] <brophat> i can't find the live CD section of the website
[06:04] <erUSUL> ITSa341: sudo modprobe cdc-acm ?? (for usb modems some cell hones conform to that standar) a /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0 or something like that sould be created...
[06:04] <ikonia> danny yes I asked you to see if you could see the network card in the "networking" gui
[06:04] <hflappy> ok if vmware-player error'd out then how can i possibly "force" remove it ...i already did autoremove but its still going thru the vmware config
[06:04] <techie> ikonia.... these were bought so I do not know.
[06:04] <Phopsy> Howdy! Trying to reformat a hard drive with two ext3 partitions and a swap partition, but no matter what I try, absolutely nothing works. Tried testdisk and gparted - is there anything I should be doing?
[06:04] <ikonia> techie: what codecs do you have installed
[06:04] <gharz> guys... my ubuntu has just been installed... how do i play .mpg / .mpeg formats? totem and vlc can't run them. i wanna watch SVCD and VCD.
[06:04] <vox754> Danny, so you installed recently Ubuntu 6.10, then since there were like 200 updates, you did, that may had included Kernel updates which break things. The simple solution is to reinstall. Don't upgrade everything, do so in small steps.
[06:04] <DaveTarmac> vox754: go for the reinstall?
[06:04] <ikonia> Phopsy: what error are you getting
[06:04] <gharz> please help
[06:05] <hjmills> brophat, the desktop cd is both a live and install cd
[06:05] <ikonia> !restrictedformats >gharz
[06:05] <brophat> anyone know were the website talks about the live CD ?
[06:05] <vox754> DaveTarmac, if you can afford it, YES.
[06:05] <techie> ikonia... I have not installed any codecs yet in ubuntu
[06:05] <nikin> man cpulimit
[06:05] <hjmills> !live > brophat
[06:05] <scizzy> anyone know how to automatically activate my wireless when ubuntu loads...?
[06:05] <ikonia> techie: but I sent you the link about 10 times
[06:05] <nikin> sorry... wrong xterm
[06:05] <Phopsy> Ikonia: I'm not getting any errors, it's literally just not deleting the old partitions
[06:05] <ikonia> techie: why have you not installed any
[06:05] <brophat> ahh ok
[06:05] <DaveTarmac> vox754: well there ain't anything else on there. plus it might be quicker in the long run
[06:05] <hjmills> scizzy, use network manager
[06:05] <ikonia> Phopsy: formatting a file system won't delete a partition
[06:05] <hjmills> !networkmanager
[06:05] <ITSa341> erUSUL   ty, do you have a link to more info I could print out before I reboot to Ubuntu? I'm in Xandros 4 pro right now.
[06:05] <gharz> ikonia: i've followed this... i've already installed the codecs.
[06:05] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:05] <techie> ikonia when you gave them to me I had to get off the system and did not log off the site.
[06:05] <ikonia> techie: so go and install them
[06:05] <scizzy> let me try
[06:06] <ikonia> techie: rather than ask the same question you asked this morning
[06:06] <techie> ikonia I will downlaod from wherever they are.
[06:06] <hjmills> !codecs > techie
[06:06] <ikonia> when you knew you need codecs
[06:06] <Saulhudson__> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu but I can't use any USB dispositive. If I put an USB dispositive it crashes and I have to restart my computer. What should I do?
[06:06] <ITSa341> erUSUL  I tried google but found tons of irrelevent info
[06:06] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Mmm, I know that...I'm using an untechnical term. I'm using gparted to try and delete the partitions, since that's how I'd normally go about doing it
[06:06] <scizzy> once in netmanager, then what
[06:06] <ikonia> techie: this sort of time wasting is what annoys me
[06:06] <DaveTarmac> vox754: i found the drivers for the mobo lan, but they wouldn't install due to a problem with ./install.sh in the driver
[06:06] <ikonia> Phopsy: do you want to remove the partition or format the file system
[06:06] <bjames> dispositive?
[06:06] <techie> ikonia.... Yes, I noticed it annoys you.
[06:06] <Danny> cusco i don't think you were recieving my messages comehow
[06:06] <cusco> Saulhudson__: what device is it?
[06:06] <ikonia> techie: so try paying attention and not wasting time
[06:06] <techie> ikonia ... understood it will not happen again.
[06:06] <ikonia> techie: thank you
[06:06] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Remove the partition :) Then get me some new partitions, obv.
[06:06] <metalhedd> i have edgy isntalled on my laptop, works great but my USB Mouse doesn't work when I plug it in. :(
[06:06] <cusco> no Danny I weren't maybe you have to register on freenode
[06:06] <hjmills> scizzy, once installed it should autoconnect you to wireless networks that your pc recognises
[06:07] <Saulhudson__> cusco anyone, Webcam, MP3 ...
[06:07] <ikonia> Phopsy:  you can only edit a disk partition table when its not in use
[06:07] <Danny> ooh
[06:07] <Danny> i've never used irc before
[06:07] <Phopsy> Ikonia: It's not in use; it's mounted through an external caddy.
[06:07] <ikonia> Phopsy: so its mounted - therefore its in use
[06:07] <hjmills> Phopsy, if you are working on the root fs then do it all from a live cd is easiest
[06:07] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Hey, that's clever...
[06:07] <hjmills> Phopsy, unmount it through gparted - i think it should be in the right click menu iirc
[06:08] <techie> !codecs
[06:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <ikonia> Phopsy: what is
[06:08] <f1assistance> how would i go about changing my workgroup name?
[06:08] <vox754> Phopsy, "sudo umount /mount/point" and the gparted and it's easy.
[06:08] <DaveTarmac> vox754: I'll let you know how the reinstall goes.
[06:09] <vox754> DaveTarmac, yes please. Also, since I don't remember everything, give your hardware details.
[06:09] <hengst> I found a great article on how everybody can use Linux even if they have to use windows programs such as games: http://www.bizz2web.com/web/mambo/content/view/25/27/
[06:09] <arcad3>  how ca i fix my inittab?
[06:10] <vox754> arcad3, what is that, how did you borke it?
[06:10] <DaveTarmac> Vox754: AMD XP 3200+ / 1GB RAM / 128MB GeForce FX5200 / On-board gigabit LAN (hopefully) / 40GB HDD
[06:10] <DaveTarmac> anything else?
[06:11] <reanjr> I'm having an issue with really quiet audio on a new Sony Vaio. I ran gnome-alsamixer and ensured PCM was set to max. Is there a way to get the Fn+Vol+ and Fn+Vol- keys to work?
[06:11] <corevette> when install windows...is there a way to make it so i won't lose grub in the process?
[06:11] <ikonia> no
[06:11] <vox754> DaveTarmac, seems good enough, I don't know why you are having problems. I'll search Gigabit for info.
[06:12] <Saulhudson__> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu but I can't use any USB dispositive. If I put an USB dispositive it crashes and I have to restart my computer. What should I do?
[06:12] <reanjr> corevette, you could use MS bootloader to boot linux...
[06:12] <vox754> corevette, Windows likes to eat the Master Boot Record, so apparently NO.
[06:12] <enmatix> hey guys
[06:12] <DaveTarmac> Vox754: Cheers. Might be best if you try to PM me - or do you still have that channel I could join? that way I don't have to root through a load of other peoples conversations
[06:13] <arcad3> ok..i use live cd now .how can i mount a ext3 partition with write acces
[06:13] <vox754> DaveTarmac, #vocx
[06:13] <ZeZu> what package has the curses headers ?
[06:13] <ZeZu> ncurses-dev ?
[06:15] <Phops1> Ikonia/HJmills: Thanks for your help - it's sorted now
[06:16] <vox754> ZeZu, "aptitude search ncurses"
[06:17] <hjmills> Phops1, sure
[06:18] <AndrewB> !samba
[06:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:18] <metalhedd> i have edgy isntalled on my laptop, works great but my USB Mouse doesn't work when I plug it in. :(
[06:20] <lufis> I edited my swap partition manually and now Ubuntu isn't mounting it automatically since it has moved. How do I reset the swap position?
[06:20] <lufis> just use mount?
[06:20] <naughty1> hello all.  i am getting the following error on both of my ubuntu boxes: I am getting the following error on both of my ubuntu boxes when running apt-get update:
[06:20] <naughty1> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:20] <naughty1> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:20] <naughty1> can anyone help me with this?
[06:21] <lufis> naughty1: typically you can ignore that, it's just a precaution
[06:21] <grayman__> lufis, you changed the swap partition?
[06:21] <rubyat> lufis: swapon /dev/xxx
[06:21] <lufis> grayman__: well, for good reason ;) I underestimated my need... ended up with a too-small swap and a lot of thrashing. Made it bigger
[06:21] <lufis> Thanks
[06:21] <vox754> !swap
[06:21] <naughty1> lufis,  i know it it is cometic but how can i fix it
[06:21] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[06:22] <grayman> if so you might want to edit /etc/fstab if you want it to mount on boot
[06:22] <lufis> grayman: But in doing so i had to move it... so it's at a different partition now
[06:22] <grayman> just fix the partition number
[06:22] <lufis> ok, thanks
[06:25] <lufis> grayman: hmm, seems like it's at the same partition (/dev/hda3), but it isnt being automatically mounted
[06:25] <naughty1> does anyone else get this error: when running apt-get update:W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:25] <hflappy> anyone know the "complete" removal howto for vmware-player  its returning an error status and still askin me bout the config of it everytime i try and install sumtin
[06:25] <lufis> naughty1: you can safely ignore it as long as you know what's in your source list
[06:25] <gbv22> can anyone point me to a link for a live USB drive setup....?
[06:25] <lufis> naughty1: gpg signing is just a security precaution, it doesn't mess anything up
[06:25] <naughty1> i know iknow
[06:25] <gbv22> i want to use my USB like i would use a live cd
[06:25] <clearzen> naughty1: It's telling you that you need to get gpg keys for some of your repos
[06:25] <naughty1> but i want the error to go away
[06:26] <lufis> naughty1: find out the gpg key for whatever repo you're using
[06:26] <lufis> and add it
[06:26] <vox754> gbv22, I'm sure this is covered on ubuntuforums.org
[06:26] <lufis> grayman: swapon: cannot stat /dev/hda3: No such file or directory
[06:26] <gbv22> vox754: i looked, but i couldnt find a solid solution, so i was wondering if someone in here knew/has tried it
[06:27] <grayman> lufis, well, it should mount it at boot time
[06:27] <grayman> then it's not hda3
[06:27] <lufis> grayman: but it is. The partition is the same number, but it's moved
[06:27] <vox754> gbv22, ah, okay. I have no experience but I have definitely read successful stories.
[06:27] <Uggggg> hey vox!
[06:27] <Uggggg> I got my partition mounted
[06:28] <gbv22> ok
[06:28] <ingrix> lufis: in a terminal, cat /etc/fstab, and look at the partition that is the swap partition
[06:28] <Uggggg> formatted to fat32 and used a script
[06:28] <lufis> grayman: It was situated at the front of the disk, behind home and root so obviously I couldn't make it bigger that way. Deleted the old one and resized / so that there would be space for /swap.
[06:28] <vox754> Uggggg, other nick please.
[06:28] <ingrix> then do a vol_id on that partition, and see if it matches up with the UUID in fstab
[06:28] <Uggggg> ubuntu_no_worky
[06:28] <vox754> Uggggg, oh man, you serious?
[06:28] <lufis> grayman: # /dev/hda3 UUID=8e7e52e7-7155-4ea2-8b8f-bd8060312ade none            swap    sw
[06:29] <grayman> hmm
[06:29] <grayman> well
[06:29] <Uggggg> yeah I formated it to fat32 with gparted and then used the ubuntu automount-windows partion script
[06:29] <grayman> if it's correct in fstab then it should be mounted at boot time
[06:29] <klaxian> does anyone know how to recover from an IP address conflict on my network?  i had two devices with the same IP (the IP of my gateway) and now some of my systems can't connect
[06:29] <grayman> let me check few things
[06:29] <lufis> grayman: well, hmm... i'll reboot and see if it sees it
[06:29] <vox754> Uggggg, hold tight and don't forget that, so next time someone asks you are able to answer.
[06:30] <lufis> !swap
[06:30] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[06:30] <klaxian> i'm guessing that the routers were broadcasting their MAC address somehow...ARP?  now the computers seem to think that the missing device is the correct one or something
[06:30] <klaxian> can i clear the ARP cache on my computers?
[06:31] <jolanta> lietuwa?
[06:31] <hflappy> omfg...is there a force option or anything to "FULLY" remove vmware-player from this system...everything i do in terminal or synaptics its still erroring out cuz of this vmware bs won't uninstall
[06:31] <vox754> Uggggg, so I guess you are no longer ubuntu_no_worky but something better.
[06:31] <glatzor> klaxian: arp -d IP
[06:31] <klaxian> glatzor: thanks
[06:31] <glatzor> klaxian: or just wait some time :)
[06:31] <klaxian> glatzor: yes i know to wait ;)  but i want it NOW :-P
[06:32] <Uggggg> haha yes
[06:32] <klaxian> glatzor: that didn't seem to help...maybe its not a problem with arp
[06:32] <r3factored> im trying to mount a windows drive. I have one drive on sata, a dvd on sata. The windows drive is not sata. whats the command to list ide/ata devices?
[06:32] <Uggggg> I still can't get my printer or scanner to work
[06:32] <klaxian> glatzor: i can ping computers on the network, but i can't ping the router (192.168.1.1)
[06:32] <Uggggg> without brainsurgery and copying over firmware out of a windows driver
[06:32] <Uggggg> heheh
[06:33] <hflappy> omfg...is there a force option or anything to "FULLY" remove vmware-player from this system...everything i do in terminal or synaptics its still erroring out cuz of this vmware bs won't uninstall...apt-get autoremove  and apt-get remove   doesn't seem to want to completely remove it and it's still erroring out
[06:33] <glatzor> klaxian: show me your "route -n" and your ifconfig
[06:33] <ingrix> ap-get purge?
[06:33] <lufis> hflappy: sudo aptitude remove vmware-player ?
[06:33] <hflappy> did that
[06:33] <vox754> Uggggg, yo need specific drivers for printers and scanners. Be sure to check the hardware lists on ubunto docs and wikis.
[06:33] <grayman> lufis
[06:33] <lufis> grayman: yeah
[06:33] <hflappy> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[06:33] <hflappy>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:33] <lufis> ?
[06:34] <hflappy> sum subprocess
[06:34] <grayman> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda <--- do this and see which number it is
[06:34] <klaxian> glatzor: whoa why is my gateway 192.168.1.4? hmm
[06:34] <grayman> also did you try swapon with sudo?
[06:34] <grayman> because you need root premission
[06:34] <lufis> grayman: nope, one sec
[06:34] <glatzor> r3factored: "grep hd /proc/partitions" returns all ide hard disks
[06:34] <lufis> grayman: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda returns nothing
[06:34] <r3factored> glatzor: thanks - noting that
[06:34] <grayman> hmm
[06:34] <Uggggg> lexmarkx73 scanner  canoni860 printer
[06:34] <grayman> do you have it on hda?
[06:35] <lufis> grayman: yeah, only one disk
[06:35] <klaxian> glatzor: i pasted the into in a private chat
[06:35] <lufis> grayman: the thing is it's the same partition number but it's moved
[06:35] <metalhedd> from the commandline I can cat /dev/input/mice and it shows activity from my touchpad and my USB mouse. but if I specify /dev/input/mice as the input device in xorg.conf the USB Mouse doesn't work.
[06:35] <grayman> could be that your cdrom is hda
[06:35] <grayman> or something weird like this
[06:35] <lufis> grayman: nope, checked already
[06:35] <lufis> :(
[06:35] <glatzor> r3factored: you should take a look at help.ubuntu.com there are a lot of helpful tutorials
[06:35] <grayman> and swapon with sudo still not working?
[06:35] <TheVault> What font do you guys use when you use Firefox? Like Google links are to small while others are hard to read
[06:35] <lufis> grayman: yeah, sudo swapon gives me the same error
[06:35] <klaxian> glatzor: i know what happened
[06:36] <lufis> pon: cannot stat /dev/hda3: No such file or directory
[06:36] <hflappy> sooooo....friggin autoremove  runs and its still wantin to setup vmware-player.....wtf is goin on here
[06:36] <klaxian> glatzor: i figured it out :-P
[06:36] <grayman> wait
[06:36] <grayman> do you have scasi disk by a chance?
[06:36] <lufis> grayman: don't think so
[06:36] <glatzor> klaxian: you cannot send me private message. you have to identify yourself before on this server
[06:36] <hflappy> i can't install nada or uninstall anything till i fix this prob
[06:36] <klaxian> glatzor: when i was working on this last night, i set my main router's IP to 192.168.1.4 by accident when i meant to set the new one to 192.168.1.4
[06:36] <grayman> scsi*
[06:36] <TheVault> What font & font size do you guys use for Firefox?
[06:37] <reanjr> Anyone offer insight into getting the Fn+Volume keys working on a Sony Vaio?
[06:37] <lufis> grayman: It went from being at the front of the disk to the middle... could ubuntu be looking in the wrong place or something?
[06:37] <klaxian> glatzor: no problem, i'm all set now...sorry for bothering you
[06:37] <grayman> well
[06:37] <grayman> no
[06:37] <glatzor> klaxian: your are welcome
[06:37] <Brady_M> Hey, where did the streamcast teams wiki site go?!
[06:37] <lufis> grayman: like, some sort of physical setting? i don't know
[06:37] <rubyat> lufis:  sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[06:37] <klaxian> glatzor: thanks for the help
[06:37] <grayman> hmm
[06:37] <grayman> well, it can see my /dev/hda
[06:37] <SmileyLap> Hey guys, i want to "re-enable hibernation" in my laptop. It worked before i upgraded to 6.10 and now it looks like its about to hibernate, but never quite manages it.
[06:38] <lufis> grayman: I'm going to open gparted on a livecd and re-make it, see if that helps. bbl
[06:38] <riaal> what torrent clents do you use?
[06:38] <psyke> has someone managed to play cstrike (non-source) using wine?
[06:38] <lufis> riaal: deluge, ktorrent :) i recommend ktorrent
[06:38] <LapSmiley> Hey guys, i want to "re-enable hibernation" in my laptop. It worked before i upgraded to 6.10 and now it looks like its about to hibernate, but never quite manages it.
[06:38] <TheVault> Anyone? What font & font size do you guys use in Firefox?
[06:38] <keogh> hi
[06:38] <riaal> lufis, uTorrents not avalable?
[06:39] <lufis> riaal: Under wine, but who wants emulation
[06:39] <riaal> lufis, noone=) cheers
[06:39] <K3nto> hey i am having an issue with running games while in beryl. They seem to come up fine, but all there is is a black (full) screen.
[06:39] <lufis> riaal: the new versions of ktorrent are a lot like utorrent
[06:39] <hflappy> omfg...is there a force option or anything to "FULLY" remove vmware-player from this system...everything i do in terminal or synaptics its still erroring out cuz of this vmware bs won't uninstall...apt-get autoremove  and apt-get remove   doesn't seem to want to completely remove it and it's still erroring out ...i need fix plz...cuz i can't uninstall or install nada till fixe
[06:39] <clearzen> ! sed
[06:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:39] <Ninfomane> Hi all
[06:39] <directhex> hflappy, dpkg --purge
[06:40] <hflappy> purge?
[06:40] <hflappy> k i'll try
[06:40] <Xenguy> lufis: interesting... does ktorrent have integrated blocklists yet at all?
[06:40] <riaal> lufis, I will try it out, thanks
[06:40] <lufis> Xenguy: via a plugin, i think. I use moblock anyway though
[06:40] <Ninfomane> I'va a problem with the command tar : Cannot open: Invalid argument, someone can help me ?
[06:41] <Xenguy> lufis: re: moblock: Is it true that it will co-exist with an existing firewall script?
[06:41] <hflappy> nope didn't work
[06:41] <peterretief>  how does one echo "a line" >> file at a certain line ie line 2
[06:41] <hflappy> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[06:41] <hflappy> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[06:41] <hflappy>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:41] <Jowi> hflappy, maybe you should remove the vmware-player-kernel-modules as well.
[06:41] <lufis> Xenguy: I dunno, i haven't had any issues with it, but then again i haven't expected any
[06:41] <reanjr> Is there a way to make it so that files created in directory are owned by the owner of the directory?
[06:41] <dda> what ISO image to choose for installing 6.10 on Intel Core Duo processor?
[06:41] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I have 'Driver "ati"' in my xorg.conf, yet glxinfo still says Direct Rendering: No. And I think I remember that I *had* direct rendering... any ideas?
[06:41] <Xenguy> lufis: OK, but do you have a firewall in addition to moblock?
[06:41] <lufis> reanjr: sudo chown owner directory
[06:41] <hflappy> i can double check but i checked everyting to remove...did the autoremove which showed me the pkgs that its gonna remove for vmware-player
[06:41] <directhex> dda, core duo -> i386
[06:42] <lufis> Xenguy: firestarter, yes
[06:42] <thestriker> how to run c files?
[06:42] <r3factored> glatzor: when i do the mount it says bad superblock. i look at syslog and it says parition is empty??? I have it connected as a primary
[06:43] <dda> directhex: thanks, I was also thinking the same. but I doubt: will it use 64-bit properly?
[06:43] <lufis> reanjr: and you may need to make it recursive ... sudo chown -R owner directory
[06:43] <Jowi> dda, core duo is 32 bit. core 2 duo is 64
[06:43] <Uggggg> vox do you think feisty will fix this?
[06:43] <directhex> dda, core duo is a 32-bit processor
[06:43] <Xenguy> lufis: do you know offhand if iptables needs to be run as a service on boot for moblock to work?
[06:43] <SmileyLap> Hey guys, i want to "re-enable hibernation" in my laptop. It worked before i upgraded to 6.10 and now it looks like its about to hibernate, but never quite manages it. - IT just comes back and asks my password.
[06:43] <lufis> Xenguy: have no idea
[06:44] <reanjr> lufis: what I mean is I have a directory with owner dirguy:dirguys and a user userguy who belongs to dirguys group.  When userguy creates a file in dirguys I want the owner of that file to be dirguy:dirguys
[06:44] <arron> hey guys sorry for a newbie question but i'm having problems with my ACPI on my laptop, does anyone have any ideas
[06:44] <ingrix> SmileyLap: Do you have acpitool installed?
[06:44] <peterretief>  how does one echo "a line" >> file at a certain line ie line 2
[06:44] <Xenguy> lufis: last question :-) So you recommend moblock overall?  It is working well for you?
[06:44] <dda> directhex: sorry, you are right, I meant core 2 duo
[06:44] <vox754> Uggggg, fix what? the partitions DO mount correctly. Everybody has issues.
[06:44] <gharz> guys... i've just downloaded all the necessary codecs and i still can't play .mpeg/.mpg/svcd/vcd... please help.
[06:44] <lufis> Xenguy: yeah, i've had no problems with it. it works
[06:44] <hflappy> nope don't friggin work
[06:44] <directhex> dda, then you want an amd64 image
[06:44] <Pelo> do we know of a list of progs that are installed out of the box with ubuntu ?
[06:44] <dda> Jowi: thanks for correction! :)
[06:44] <lufis> gharz: w32 codecs as well?
[06:44] <directhex> Pelo, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[06:44] <hflappy> sum sub-process script or sumtin won't friggin let me completely remove vmware-player
[06:45] <Uggggg> http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/diskmounter  if you need it
[06:45] <Uggggg> its the script
[06:45] <Xenguy> lufis: thanks a lot -- I will probably try setting it up later this week or next weekend when I have a chance -- cheers!
[06:45] <Jowi> dda, no probs .
[06:45] <gharz> lufis, is the filename w32? i'll use apt-get on it.
[06:45] <lufis> gharz: no, you have to download it manually. one sec
[06:45] <ingrix> SmileyLap: Try reinstalling apci and acpid
[06:45] <ingrix> SmileyLap: It worked on my laptop
[06:45] <hflappy> so no ideas still?
[06:45] <techie> !codecs
[06:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <SmileyLap> ok thanks ingrix:)
[06:46] <lufis> gharz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:46] <Ferret> peterretief: sed -i -e '2 s/^/some line here\n/' file
[06:46] <hflappy> i'll post "again"
[06:46] <hflappy> omfg...is there a force option or anything to "FULLY" remove vmware-player from this system...everything i do in terminal or synaptics its still erroring out cuz of this vmware bs won't uninstall...apt-get autoremove  and apt-get remove   doesn't seem to want to completely remove it and it's still erroring out ...i need fix plz...cuz i can't uninstall or install nada till fixed
[06:46] <Pelo> directhex,  no I mean out of the box, not what I currently have installed
[06:46] <vox754> !who > Uggggg
[06:46] <ingrix> SmileyLap: And if acpitool is installed, uninstall that
[06:47] <Taime1> i installed konqueror, but it seems to not have any plugins...is there a way to tell it to point to my firefox plugins directory?
[06:47] <Uggggg> oh sorry I thought you might like the script (vox)
[06:47] <Uggggg> http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/diskmounter
[06:47] <directhex> Pelo, depends on the release version and selected preseed. check the preseed files on the install cd, and the dependencies of the packages listed
[06:47] <gharz> lufis, ok. i'll check that.
[06:47] <lufis> :)
[06:47] <jef`> hey, I'm trying to use murrine engine, I installed the .deb, and tryed to use some themes, but they only "half work"
[06:47] <jef`> anyone know where I may be going worng
[06:47] <jef`> wrong*
[06:47] <Pelo> directhex,  thanks
[06:47] <dda> directhex: interesting.. perhaps it should be mentioned on the download page (that AMD ISO is also for Intel core 2 duo)?
[06:48] <techie> Totem player and the various !codecs I downloaded have not worked I even installed gxine and vl players.
[06:48] <directhex> dda, does the use if i386 on amd athlon need explicit statement?
[06:48] <techie> any thoughts anyone
[06:48] <eskerda> hey a linux question, anyway to know the current upload download speed by /proc ? nice to use in a shit im doing http://eskerda.no-ip.org
[06:48] <lufis> !language | eskerda
[06:48] <ubotu> eskerda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:48] <SAM_theman> I having a problem with ubuntu its doesn't seem to pick up my cpu
[06:48] <vox754> Uggggg, yep, I checked the page. Seems okay. That nalioth guy, he roams here, I want to ask him.
[06:48] <punzu> i'm italian and i want to learn english...( this phrase is right, for example??)
[06:48] <vox754> !who > Uggggg
[06:48] <SAM_theman> Its just says unknown...
[06:48] <eskerda> well, i meant a project...
[06:49] <lufis> techie: What media are you trying to play?
[06:49] <SAM_theman> Its A AMD 4400+ X2
vcd's
[06:49] <vox754> nalioth, hey you there?
[06:49] <Xenguy> punzu: yes
[06:49] <lufis> techie: have you installed libdvdcss?
so i installed the vcl program player and nothing
[06:49] <lufis> techie: i'm not sure if vcds even use encryption but you can try
meaning ......
how do i try encryption
[06:50] <lufis> techie: well dvds are encrypted, so you need libdvdcss to read them.
how do I check to see if i installed libvdcss   on synaptic?
[06:50] <lufis> techie: just search for it
[06:50] <Taime1> does anyone inhere use konqueror in gnome?
[06:50] <directhex> you haven't, since it's technically illegal
[06:51] <pradeep> Taime1, occasionally
[06:51] <clearzen>  techie: If you haven't gone through steps to install it it isn't installed
[06:51] <eskerda> so.. there's no way to easy know what's the current download upload rate of an ethernet interface?
[06:51] <eskerda>  something more candy to just get the downlaoded size of data and make the calc?
[06:51] <Taime1> predeep, did you find that, when you installed it, it had no plugins?
[06:51] <Taime1> pradeep*
[06:52] <clearzen>  techie: Have you installed any codecs on your system?
[06:52] <hflappy> omfg...is there a force option or anything to "FULLY" remove vmware-player from this system...everything i do in terminal or synaptics its still erroring out cuz of this vmware bs won't uninstall...apt-get autoremove  and apt-get remove   doesn't seem to want to completely remove it and it's still erroring out ...i need fix plz...cuz i can't uninstall or install nada till fixed
[06:52] <pradeep> Taime1, yes, no plugins as far i can remember
[06:52] <clearzen> hflappy: dpkg -a --configure
[06:52] <hflappy> i'll try
[06:53] <Taime1> pradeep, is there a way to tell it to point to plugins? or does it need to be run in kde for that ?
[06:53] <vox754> hflappy, you have asked that hundreds of times, you may "rm -rf" every file right now.
[06:53] <punzu> how are you?
[06:53] <hflappy> and? its some sub install process i don't know boutz wit vmware-player
[06:53] <pradeep> Taime1, sorry no clue about that
[06:54] <dda> directhex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4 (it says about AMD64 processors and amd64 ISO, but I don't see any mention of core 2 duo anywhere)
[06:54] <Taime1> ah shucks
 i do not know whether i installed your codecs or no , since this is driving me crazy. I have installed a few... how do i find whether I installed yours or not?
[06:54] <Tenkawa> does 6.10 support wpa2 out of the box?
[06:54] <vox754> hflappy, well that is the risk you took by installing it on the first place, remember all disclaimers, NO WARRANTIES.
[06:54] <clearzen> techie:http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ follow that and it will work for you
[06:54] <techie> Now my cdrom will not open
[06:55] <NickGarvey> is it possible to move an ext3 partition?
[06:55] <ingrix> Tenkawa: You usually need to run wpa_supplicant, but Ubuntu comes with that, so I guess
[06:55] <dr_nick> hi
[06:55] <hflappy> yes i know...and there is no workaround for this?  to actually completely remove it in ubuntu?
[06:55] <dda> directhex: anyway, thanks for you answer.. I just wanted to make sure I download a correct ISO (it's not an easy thing here in Russia to download 700Mb) :)
[06:55] <vox754> dda, Core 2 Duo are normal i386 and x86_64
[06:55] <Tenkawa> ingrix: ok.. thats what I thought
[06:56] <dr_nick> i'm having trouble with my bluetooth keyboard since using feisty. it won't reconnect, i ALWAYS have to do "sudo hidd --connect ..." after switching my bt keyboard on.
[06:56] <directhex> dda, intel core 2 duo is an amd64 processor. amd athlon is an intel 386 processor. the convention with linux is to give naming credits where they are due
[06:56] <dr_nick> otherwise it's working fine, but it's quite frustrating to log in via ssh just to make my keyboard usable
[06:56] <reanjr> x86-64 is a more proper designation
 i went to your page but rather than codecs it looks more like some sort of documentation.
[06:57] <cusco> directhex: what do you mean? one of those processors has nothing to do with the other one!
[06:57] <clearzen> techie: there is a link at the bottom
also some code to download and install
[06:57] <directhex> reanjr, when you can propose a company-agnostic name for i386, then that'll stand
[06:57] <vox754> directhex, but you agree that it is best to download i386 even for 64 bit architecture, that until Java flash and all those plugins work correctly under 64 bit
[06:57] <clearzen> techie: direct link http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[06:58] <reanjr> directhex, heh
[06:58] <directhex> vox754, for typical desktop use
[06:58] <clearzen> techie: run the wget command
[06:58] <NickGarvey> vox754, yeah, I use 32 even though I have 64
[06:59] <vox754> NickGarvey, same here. I just don't want to mislead new guys into using 64 bit.
[06:59] <IndyGunFreak> NickGarvey: same here... seems like most with 64bit distros, spend a considerable amount of time getting 32bit apps to work with it.. so why bother
[06:59] <cusco> the best is to use the 64 bits
[06:59] <clearzen> techie: then sudo -s    aptitude update && aptitude install easyubuntu
[06:59] <cusco> and have a installed chrooted 32 bits
[06:59] <obelix> What's the best TV player for ubuntu? :)
[06:59] <reanjr> cusco: the 64 bit instruction set in AMD64 was taken by Intel and rebranded as EM64T.  A 64 bit Intel processor is then basically the AMD64 architecture.  Likewise, the older 32-bit AMDs used Intel's x86 architecture.
[06:59] <cusco> so whenever you need to run something on 32, you do so
[06:59] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: i like TVTime.
[06:59] <obelix> TVTime doesn't work for some reason.
[06:59] <cusco> reanjr: yes buit not de core 2
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: KDETV then
[07:00] <clearzen> techie: Then I believe the program shows up under system tools. if not just type easyubuntu in a terminal
[07:00] <cusco> those don't use 64
[07:00] <obelix> but i don't wan
[07:00] <reanjr> cusco: Core 2 runs EM64T
[07:00] <cusco> are you sure??
[07:00] <minimec> obelix: I agree with IndyGunFreak. Tvtime is quiet good.
[07:00] <directhex> cusco, yes
[07:00] <reanjr> pretty sure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
[07:00] <dda> thanks guys!
[07:00] <dda> that become clear at last
[07:01] <dda> (to some extent)
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> minimec: guess he didn't want to stick around for our opinion..lol
I see the tables with the various free codecs etc.. but do not say how to dowload.
[07:01] <minimec> guess so ... ;)
[07:01] <dda> and I see that Ubuntu IRC community is just awesome!
totemxine seems to be what I need, perhaps
so I will search in ubuntu
[07:02] <cusco> oki.. did't know that
[07:04] <aalhamad> what are the codec for real media files?
[07:04] <vox754> cusco, chroot environment is useful but may sound like portuguese to guys who know little about computers. It is safer to go with 32 bit.
[07:04] <thread> Why am I having like zero luck trying to get this 20" lcd run at its native 1680x1050? This is the nvidia driver, and I've got the sync ranges specified correctly and tried all sorts of combinations of the edid ignoring directives.
[07:04] <thread> It just tells me (in Xorg.0.log) that there are no modes for 1680x1050, and refuses to use that res
[07:04] <SmileyLap> Hey guys, i want to "re-enable hibernation" in my laptop. It worked before i upgraded to 6.10 and now it looks like its about to hibernate, but never quite manages it. - IT just comes back and asks my password.
[07:05] <vox754> thread, that is a big monitor. You want no problems at all? go for an integrated graphics with a CRT monitor, else go battle.
[07:05] <thread> vox754: what a silly answer
[07:05] <thread> thx for tryin
[07:05] <vox754> thread, thank you.
[07:06] <also_> from where i can get ndiswrapper
[07:06] <thread> vox754: this is the gf's screen. I run a 24"er tyvm :)
[07:06] <rbil> thread, do these sync rates match what you have in xorg.conf? sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | also_
[07:06] <ubotu> also_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:06] <also_> what?
[07:06] <vox754> also_, search the web. SourceForge.net
[07:07] <also_> ok thx
 u still here... all the codecs are being downloaded and install as I write in here. I hope it works.
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> also_: go to the link posted by ubotu... it has ndiswrapper instructions i think
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> !ndiswrapper
[07:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:07] <SmileyLap> !hibernate
[07:07] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[07:07] <SmileyLap> !acpi
[07:07] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[07:07] <clearzen> techie: it will
[07:07] <ghetek> how do i add my remote ssh password to a sshfs mount? i want my sshfs mount to run at startup (i want to add it to my autostart applications in kde) so i need it to be all in one line
[07:08] <reanjr> ghetek: you should use public key encryption instead of password
[07:08] <clearzen> techie: If you have a problem just let me know and I'll help you to get it working
[07:08] <thread> rbil: er... we have another problem now. they are the sync ranges for this lcd, taken from the specs.
[07:09] <ompaul> dda, so eh please turn off that noisey away message thanks
[07:09] <thread> rbil: I'll try that as soon as I get back to a point where I can...
[07:09] <reanjr> ghetek: run ssh-keygen on the machine you are connecting from and copy the contents of the id_rsa.pub file that it generates in ~/.ssh to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on the server
[07:09] <quad3d> all the *java5* on packages.ubuntu.com needs to be updated to *java6*
[07:09] <MadP3nGu1n4> hey guy's.i have a question
[07:09] <Taime1> man, konqueror installed okay in gnome, but it doesnt have any plugins....can i just drop my ff plugins folder in the konqueror directory?
[07:09] <MadP3nGu1n4> why cant i watch a dvd with movie player
[07:09] <reanjr> ghetek: you should then be able to ssh without a password
[07:10] <shadwan> MadP3nGu1n4: dunno but i reccomend vlc
[07:10] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd
[07:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:10] <SmileyLap> Hey guys, i want to "re-enable hibernation" in my laptop. It worked before i upgraded to 6.10 and now it looks like its about to hibernate, but never quite manages it. - IT just comes back and asks my password.
[07:10] <IndyGunFreak> MadP3nGu1n4: did you install the codecs?
[07:10] <ompaul> !restrictedformats > MadP3nGu1n4
[07:10] <ompaul> MadP3nGu1n4, please read the message from the bot thanks
[07:10] <MadP3nGu1n4> i get this error.Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo)device
[07:11] <ghetek> reanjr: ok so i need to run ssh-keygen on the remote or the local machine?
[07:11] <dda> ompaul: oops, I did not know that it was a bad idea. I actually set the mode manually when stepped out..
[07:11] <vox754> SmileyLap, It stopped working for me. On laptops, I've read you need to set som "resume=/dev/sda2" line on the kernel, where the device is the swap partition. Look at the forums.
[07:11] <reanjr> ghetek:on local as the user that will be connecting to the server
[07:11] <Spaceghost> alguien que me ayude
[07:11] <shadwan> i've been going through the painful process of installing ATI drivers all day. i still have "direct rendering: no" despite following several guides. can anyone help?
[07:11] <Spaceghost> coo
[07:11] <ompaul> dda, well there are 1078 users here so if we all did it :)
[07:11] <SmileyLap> vox754: ok ill try :/
[07:12] <obelix> KDETV "Unable to grab video.  Video display is not possible with current plugin configuration. Try playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin."  How do I fix this, the screen is just black when I have KDETV open.
[07:12] <MadP3nGu1n4> tryed vlc and got the same error
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | MadP3nGu1n4
[07:12] <ubotu> MadP3nGu1n4: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:12] <vox754> Spaceghost, that is a nice nickname.
[07:12] <ompaul> !es | Spaceghost
[07:12] <ubotu> Spaceghost: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:12] <Spaceghost> yes
[07:13] <thread> rbil: it doesn't look like it outputs sync ranges at all... it echos out mode:'s up to "mode: 1280x1024x16m" which is the highest res I seem to be able to attain. Then it says: "edid:" and finally "edidfail"
[07:13] <obelix> KDETV "Unable to grab video.  Video display is not possible with current plugin configuration. Try playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin."  How do I fix this, the screen is just black when I have KDETV open. Help please :(
[07:13] <Spaceghost> bueno bueno
[07:13] <Spaceghost> no se quemen
[07:13] <Spaceghost> disculpen
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: what type of card?
[07:13] <thread> rbil: this is from the livecd because I seem to have rendered the system unbootable
[07:14] <techie> clearzem you still there?
[07:14] <obelix> Flyvideo 3000
[07:14] <Heavenquake> I have trouble with wireless in Ubuntu. The card seems to be found, as well as the driver seems to be installed pr. default. according to iwlist scan, the interface does support scanning, but found no scan results. According to System -> Network my card is activated. The accesspoint has no encryption. My card is a PRISM...
[07:14] <reanjr> ghetek:dependin on your network, you may need to make a slight modification to the proper local hostname. If ssh still prompts for password, change the last part of the authorized_keys2 on the server to user@<correct_hostname>
[07:14] <Matic`Makovec> Is there any alternative for Vent that "works as intended" on Linux and can of course connect to a Ventrilo server?
[07:14] <faceface> hi, anyone had problems with "network manager" recently?
[07:14] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: I had it working on opensuse fine, but now trying it for the first time on ubuntu.  Flyviudeo 3000.
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> ok...
[07:14] <faceface> mine stopped working, and I can't get it going again despite a clean re-install
[07:15] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: But now nothing, just black :/
[07:15] <daisy> hello
[07:15] <faceface> how do I 'list_installed'
[07:15] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: yeah, sometimes they are a bit hard under Linux, I got mine(a Hauppage PCTV Win Plus) working after about 2 weeks of googling, searching, etc
[07:15] <techie> my mounted windows icon just showed up on my desktop. Before it was not there. Can I safely get it of it from the desktop to clear the area? IF so, how do i do it?
[07:16] <vox754> obelix, is that a "saa7134" chipset?
[07:16] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: wow ok, that sucks. :/  OpenSuse had it working fine :(
[07:16] <obelix> how do I check that vox754
[07:16] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: yeah, but ubuntu kicks opensuse's butt... rarely does anything work immediately
[07:16] <Taime1> okay, opera sucks
[07:17] <Taime1> uninstalling now
[07:17] <faceface> ah... networkmanager was so cool :(
[07:17] <vox754> obelix, "sudo dmesg | grep saa"
[07:17] <clearzen> techie: right click and go to the unmount option
[07:17] <IndyGunFreak> obelix:    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76637&highlight=Flyvideo+3000
[07:17] <shadwan> i have "direct rendering: no" despite following all sorts of guides for installing ATI drivers. can anyone help?
[07:17] <comoddor1> anyone can help?
[07:17] <thread> rbil: any idea what that means?
[07:17] <vox754> obelix, "sudo lspci -v"
[07:17] <IndyGunFreak> !anybody | comoddor1
[07:17] <pradeep> Taime1, don't like firefox eh? ;)
[07:17] <ubotu> comoddor1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:17] <sigix> guys/gals, what is a good GUI for using bluetooth between my desktop and cell phone?
[07:17] <comoddor1> new user -need help
[07:17] <techie> clearzen>will this later mess me up when I try to read my windows folder via Places?
[07:17] <thread> rbil: ddcprobe only tells me I can go up to 1280x1024... clearly a lie.
[07:17] <obelix> 7134 yes
[07:17] <obelix> Saa
[07:18] <IndyGunFreak> obelix:   its explained here      http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76637&highlight=Flyvideo+3000
[07:18] <Taime1> i LOVE firefox, but it wont open certain sites
[07:18] <spiff> anyone know of a howto on buildind xen 3.0.4 on edgy? I've tried with -fno-stack-protector and gcc4.0, no luck
[07:18] <obelix> k, checking it out L:)
[07:18] <Taime1> and konqeror will
[07:18] <comoddor1> need to find out  how to connect to a greek server
[07:18] <Taime1> so i need konqueror....but it doesnt install with plugin support, so it seems
[07:19] <Squee> Hey everyone
[07:19] <ardchoille> hi Squee
[07:19] <techie> clearzen>I repeat if I unmount the icon (looking like a drive, will I still be able to read the windows folder via Places?
[07:19] <rbil> thread: you're doing this from a livecd boot?
[07:19] <vox754> obelix, more info http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[07:19] <obelix> :)
[07:19] <obelix> thanks
[07:19] <comoddor1> is there any list from which i can browse servers?
[07:19] <Squee> Does anyone have a page of hotkeys for Ubuntu, I'm running a game through cedega but it won't let me alt-tab out of it
[07:19] <LordLimecat> does anyone see a message at boot up saying something about
[07:19] <LordLimecat> "PCI device could not allocate resources @......"
[07:20] <sigix> looking for a good GUI for handling bluetooth comm between ubuntu (edgy) and my cell phone, any suggestions?
[07:20] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat: no
[07:20] <LordLimecat> because it happens on this machine (AMD64) and another one (core2)
[07:20] <LordLimecat> only in 6.10
[07:20] <faceface> ach... I am going to try a re-install of all "network manager" packages...
[07:20] <LordLimecat> its before the ubuntu load bar
[07:20] <LordLimecat> id like to track down what it means
 If I unmount, do I latter have to mount everytime I want to peruse my windows' folder?
[07:20] <also_> how i can open a .inf file with ndiswrapper? I select to open it whit ndiswrapper but nothing  happens
[07:21] <clearzen> techie:one sec
[07:21] <techie> ok
[07:21] <sigix> ndiswrapper -i *.inf
[07:21] <Squee> Does anyone have a page of hotkeys for Ubuntu, I'm running a game through cedega but it won't let me alt-tab out of it
[07:21] <thread> rbil: at the moment, yeah...
[07:21] <also_> sigix, what that means?
[07:21] <faceface> is there a network manager channel?
[07:21] <thread> rbil: but it does line up since 1280x1024 is the highest res I can obtain
[07:22] <rbil> thread: and you've looked within xorg.conf in terms of resolutions there and the driver it's using?
[07:22] <sigix> also_: means get to a command prompt, cd into dir with inf and type ndiswrapper -i my.inf
[07:22] <free2infiltrate> hy
[07:22] <LordLimecat> Squee: try system--> prefs--> keyboard shortcuts
[07:22] <also_> sigix, aaah ok
[07:22] <thread> rbil: yeah.. I've tried a lot of things  before rendering the system unbootable :)
[07:22] <also_> thx
[07:22] <free2infiltrate> so,oeone here
[07:22] <sigix> also_: np
[07:22] <lufis> I'm having trouble with Ubuntu recognizing a swap partition. Tried swapon /dev/hda3, got /dev/hda3: No such file or directory
[07:22] <thread> rbil: set the resolution to 1680x1050 and was using the nvidia driver
[07:23] <thread> hw acceleration worked...
[07:23] <sigix> speaking of which, what is the difference between twinview and xinerama?
[07:23] <faceface> will someone please acknowladge that I exist
[07:23] <sigix> faceface: you exists
[07:23] <dgx> lol...
[07:23] <techie> clearzen> ?
[07:23] <IndyGunFreak> sigix: for me, the diffference was, xinerama wouldn't work, and twinview did..lol
[07:23] <faceface> thanks sigix - somethimes I need it
[07:23] <clearzen> techie: Almost done.....I'm at work
[07:23] <rbil> thread: so you're using the Nvidia proprietary drivers or the oss drivers (nv)?
[07:23] <also_> sigix, but where is that command prompt?
totally understood.
[07:24] <thread> rbil: nvidia, although I tried nv for a moment for similar results
[07:24] <Frosty> Can I install ubuntu in a partition that already has files in without overwriting those files?
[07:24] <faceface> I bin hoping that an upgrade some time soon will fix network manager... I can't work out how to configure wpa otherwise...
[07:24] <sigix> also_: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[07:24] <faceface> Frosty, risky
[07:24] <HymnToLife> Frosty, yes, but you don't want to
[07:24] <Frosty> Why
[07:24] <rbil> thread: what nvidia card are u using?
[07:24] <Stormx2> Is there a key you can hit during usplash to see the text?
[07:24] <thread> rbil: geforce fx 55600
[07:24] <thread> 5500
[07:24] <also_> sigix, thx
[07:24] <faceface> Frosty, OS don't play well with other files, its just cleaner to have one install per partition
[07:25] <Squee> LordLimeCat, thanks
[07:25] <LordLimecat> :D
[07:25] <Frosty> Well..its not another OS, just files
[07:25] <LordLimecat> i love being in here XD
[07:25] <lufis> Stormx2: you can boot without splash and see all that's going on
[07:25] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat:  #ubuntu rocks.
[07:25] <faceface> Frosty, belonging to another os right?
[07:25] <Frosty> Well they're just music files
[07:25] <LordLimecat> why isnt there a one-click link to this channel on the desktop @ install?
[07:25] <clearzen> techie: You will not have to remount it manually. Ubuntu should mount it automaticly. If it doesn't you can edit the /etc/fstab file to make it mount everytime you boot.
[07:25] <sigix> guys, if I can get my dual monitor config working but primary display is on wrong monitor (TwinView by the way), how can I reverse that/
[07:25] <sigix> ?
[07:25] <vox754> obelix, I could use TvTime, MythTV nor any other program to watch TV, so I suggest "xawtv", it is ugly but works.
[07:26] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat: there really should be, i found out about this place by accident, and i've ained a ton of info here.
[07:26] <Stormx2> lufis: First, how? Second, I'm pretty sure you can hit a key during uSplash...
[07:26] <LordLimecat> sigix....couldnt you swap the monitoprs?
[07:26] <sigix> it's laptop... so no..
[07:26] <myfel> Guys. I just to tell you all that I love you. I've tried other Linux distros before and they were cool, but they couldn't hold my attention. I have made the switch from Windows to Edgy on my main PC and haven't looked back. Thank you.
[07:26] <LordLimecat> IndyGunFreak: I know, the ppl who REALLY need help cant get in :(
[07:26] <obelix> vox754, how do I scan with it?
[07:26] <LordLimecat> and linux is scary first time
[07:26] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat: yup
[07:26] <LordLimecat> even ubuntu
[07:26] <LordLimecat> black screens with no mouse scare many ppl
[07:26] <lufis> Stormx2: i dunno what key, but i would just rather not have splash myself. run gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list and remove "quiet" and "splash" from your main entry
[07:27] <rlevitin> I just switched to dapper, and when i try to run easyubuntu, it gives me an error to fix broken packages before it can work, I have no idea which packages it is referring to. Any suggestions?
[07:27] <Stormx2> obelix: MythTV is the big celebrated PVR for ubuntu
[07:27] <obelix> yeah I know about that...
[07:27] <obelix> easy?
[07:27] <rbil> thread: I'm not sure I understand what u mean when you say your system is unbootable. Had u already installed Ubuntu and are now trying to fix it with the livecd?
[07:27] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat: i wasn'tr eally scared of Linux, but if you're a linux user, and you've never hosed a windows install on accident, you're probably doin something wrong..lol
[07:27] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: did you get it working?
it dissappeared from my desktop now when I go to places and try to read my windows folders is not there.....the files.....
[07:27] <`nicola> I need some help to mount two *ext3* partition. in the fstab which value for dump and pass should I use ? I want them to be full writable from anyone
[07:27] <LordLimecat> lol@ indy
[07:27] <obelix> It's working in mplayer, just not KDETV which I don't get
[07:27] <LordLimecat> rlevitin: Not entirely sure if i can help
[07:27] <LordLimecat> but ill try
[07:27] <vox754> obelix, read "man xawtv" and "man scantv" not that hard. I'm off.
[07:27] <obelix> mplayer probably uses it's own codecs
[07:27] <Frosty> faceface, are music files classes as being 'owned' by another OS?
[07:27] <lufis> !swap > lufis
[07:27] <obelix> thanks vox754
[07:27] <Frosty> classed*
[07:27] <LordLimecat> can you go into terminal and run sudo apt-get update
this is exactly what I was afraid of.
[07:28] <faceface> does this look safe? The following packages will be REMOVED  dhcdbd libnm-util0 network-manager network-manager-dbg network-manager-dev network-manager-gnome network-manager-gnome-dbg 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
how do i edit.
[07:28] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: i'd recommend TVTime..
[07:28] <clearzen> techie: You can remount it
[07:28] <dgx> Trivial newbie question :) Best Ubuntu IRC client, bar XChat?
[07:28] <techie> without showing on the desktop
[07:28] <faceface> Frosty, that isn't the point really... sorry for getting you sidetracked
[07:28] <rlevitin> LordLimeCat, was that to me?
[07:28] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Didn't work on my pc.
[07:28] <obelix> :/
[07:28] <Frosty> ok =] 
[07:28] <cschees> I shared a folder in Ubuntu, I see the folder on my Windows 2000 PC, but it prompts me for a password, What should I put in for it?
how to do itl
[07:28] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Just doesn't start
[07:28] <LordLimecat> dgx, dunno, but dont use kopete for irc
[07:28] <LordLimecat> its slow
[07:28] <lufis> dgx: gaim works
[07:28] <rlevitin> dgx: I'm using the irc in gaim
[07:28] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: hmm that doesnt make sense
[07:28] <faceface> Frosty, if you don't mind the idea of losing those files go ahead :)
[07:28] <crdlb> dgx, gaim?
[07:28] <Frosty> :/ so it will delete the files?
[07:28] <myfel> Does the feisty fawn release have the updated HAL package so it recognizes second generation iPod nanos correctly? Just wondering.
[07:29] <dgx> Fairly representative results then, eh? hehe - thanks.
[07:29] <faceface> Frosty, depends on how you configure the install.. me no expert
[07:29] <sigix> if lspci returns " 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device" then my driver isn't really working right?
[07:29] <soundray> `nicola: use 0 for dump and 2 for pass
[07:29] <Frosty> ok
[07:29] <Frosty> thanks ;)
listening to instructions
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: well, if you can't get TVTime, my next choice would be KDE... XawTV.. as noted by someone above, works, but its ugly
[07:29] <faceface> gonna restart now...
[07:29] <soundray> `nicola: 'man fstab' to find out why
[07:29] <`nicola> thanks
[07:29] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: K, I'm gonna try tvtime again now
[07:29] <clearzen> techie: open a terminal and type mount and paste the output in pastebin and I 'll tell you how to remount it
[07:29] <rlevitin> Is there a diagnostic program that checks for corrupt packages in dapper??
[07:29] <faceface> thanks for letting me know I exist...
[07:29] <thread> rbil: I made the boot partition too small (for some reason we ended up needing a boot partition to solve a grub error, despite this machine not being too old (P4))
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: ok...
[07:29] <LordLimecat> does anyone have a link to a blog or somethin by fiesty devs?  tryin to find out whats new, havin no luck
[07:29] <rlevitin> or something like that?
[07:29] <sacater> anyone here who is a very good perl programmer and has a launchpad account please go to #sacater for a min or 2
[07:29] <soundray> obelix: is it analog or DVB?
[07:29] <vox754> obelix, final info today http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315379&highlight=ENLTV
[07:29] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: don't know how to scan with mplayer
[07:29] <LordLimecat> rlevitin:  can you go into the terminal and enter
[07:29] <LordLimecat> sudo apt-get update
[07:30] <thread> rbil: and ended up making it unbootable for an entirely separate reason/issue
[07:30] <LordLimecat> and tell me what errors are generated
[07:30] <`nicola> soundray, in fdisk it says /dev/hdb1               1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux  what does Linux partition type is ?
[07:30] <`nicola> is it xt3 ?
[07:30] <obelix> soundray: I'm gonna go with analog
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: honestly, i never knew MPlayer could play TV..
[07:30] <LordLimecat> ext3
[07:30] <`nicola> *ext3
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> so i have no idea.
[07:30] <`nicola> ok
[07:30] <keir_> I'm having probs getting Beryl running if anyone could help?
[07:30] <obelix> mplayer tv://
[07:30] <dgx> Shall try Gaim, brb
[07:30] <soundray> obelix: zapping is another possibility
[07:30] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, It was me; "xawtv" is the only one that works, not vlc, mplayer, nada, nothing. But I'll ask you next week.
[07:30] <techie> !pastebin
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <rlevitin> LordLimecat: no errors were generated
[07:30] <dtolj> !kino
[07:31] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[07:31] <khafra> When you can't start a movie or mp3 with sound because there's no sound device available, how do you see why?
[07:31] <rlevitin> LordLimecat: but the easyubuntu program does give me errors
[07:31] <`nicola> soundray, it says wrong fs type. here's my fstab line /dev/hda1 /media/disco_b ext3 default 0 2
[07:31] <khafra> I don't know how to find out what's taking up all the sound devices
[07:31] <soundray> `nicola: the partition type doesn't matter for mounting. The filesystem type does.
[07:31] <LordLimecat> rlevitin: dont think i can help then :(
[07:31] <LordLimecat> you could try sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:31] <LordLimecat> see what happens there
[07:31] <soundray> `nicola: have you formatted /dev/hda1 with mkfs.ext3?
[07:31] <rbil> thread: so why are u concerned about getting that resolution working within the LiveCD environment, when you can't even boot your Linux installation? I guess I'm not understanding what you're attempting to do here.
[07:32] <andel> do i have to install MS SFU if i want to use libnss-ldap ?!
[07:32] <`nicola> soundray, I formatted with gparted using ext3, I can do it again
[07:32] <thread> rbil: I've installed ubuntu a couple of times recently. that is not the problem. the problem is that no matter what I do, I can't get this screen to go at a res over 1280x1024.
[07:32] <myfel> LordLimeCat: Was this what you were looking for? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+specs
[07:32] <Half-Left> Anyone know why Feisty takes so long to boot, it says "Starting up" for about 10 seconds!
[07:32] <LordLimecat> thread: have you edited the xorg.conf?
[07:32] <ompaul> !feisty
[07:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <thread> LordLimecat: time, and time again
[07:32] <LordLimecat> (i THINK thats the file
[07:32] <clearzen> techie: you still there?
[07:32] <LordLimecat> :(
[07:33] <thread> LordLimecat: yes... I have a fairly good idea of what I'm doing
[07:33] <LordLimecat> what graphics card and drivers
[07:33] <techie> yes and it will not paste on the pastebin
[07:33] <LordLimecat> oh
[07:33] <`nicola> soundray, in gparted fylesystem is ext3
[07:33] <thread> LordLimecat: geforce fx 5500, with the nvidia nvidia driver
[07:33] <Uggggg> Limecat is not pleased!
[07:33] <ompaul> fiesty is in #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <LordLimecat> and monitor supports it
[07:33] <LordLimecat> LOL
[07:33] <techie> clearzen can we open a private window and I will paste it there>
[07:33] <soundray> `nicola: did you hit Apply in gparted?
[07:33] <ammz> hello!
[07:33] <LordLimecat> hi
[07:33] <myfel> Hello
[07:33] <thread> Samsung SyncMaster 205BW
[07:33] <khafra> mplayer says all my sound devices are busy, but I don't know how to find out what's taking up all the sound devices
[07:33] <`nicola> sure I did, now I mounted partitions with gparted and they works
[07:34] <ammz> i am new at irc :P :D
[07:34] <lufis> hi ammz
[07:34] <LordLimecat> sounds like an LCD, thread
[07:34] <thread> LordLimecat: indeed
[07:34] <techie> clearzen why did I unmount!!!
[07:34] <IndyGunFreak> !welcome | ammz
[07:34] <ubotu> ammz: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[07:34] <Uggggg> is something supposed to happen when you plug in a usb printer?
[07:34] <ammz> Thank you :D
[07:34] <soundray> `nicola: okay, so you're sorted?
[07:34] <Uggggg> or do you have to reboot to detect it?
[07:34] <lufis> ;)
[07:34] <clearzen> techie: okay just tell me what ls /proc/ide shows you
[07:34] <LordLimecat> lemme check on it real quick
[07:34] <`nicola> probably, let me restart the session
[07:34] <clearzen> techie: cool just send me a message
[07:34] <soundray> Uggggg: check with 'lsusb' if there is an output line that corresponds to your printer
[07:34] <koala_boy> sera
[07:35] <ompaul> !it
[07:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:35] <TheVault> Whats the command to remove something if its not letting you delete it?
[07:35] <ammz> i have seen some movies where they have like a 3d desktop?? Can i get that?
[07:35] <Uggggg> lsusb? do i run that from terminal?
[07:35] <techie> clearzen there is no such line in there
[07:35] <TheVault> got a folder in my home directory not wanting to delete
[07:35] <soundray> Uggggg: yes
[07:35] <Uggggg> !lsusb
[07:35] <LordLimecat> thevault: you can try sudo
[07:35] <techie> at my terminal
[07:35] <ammz> I believe it's named XGL or something like that :P
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <ompaul> ammz, go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:35] <Uggggg> thanks
[07:35] <LordLimecat> but there may be a reason its not letting you deleteit
[07:35] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: I think its sudo rm pathtofile/filename
[07:35] <ammz> how o.o
[07:35] <keir_> ok i ran beryl
[07:35] <TheVault> Thanks. lemme try that
[07:35] <keir_> (in xgl now)
[07:35] <Uggggg> ID 0000:0000
[07:35] <keir_> and the menubar and taskbar have dissapeared
[07:35] <ompaul> ammz, what irc client are you using?
[07:35] <ammz> chat
[07:35] <keir_> as have the titlebars of the windows lol
[07:36] <ammz> no sorry ompaul xchat
[07:36] <lenaud01> anyone know why a sound card would stop working?
[07:36] <kimitaka> what do I need to install to get divx to play? totem is not doing it on a default install for me
[07:36] <IndyGunFreak> LordLimecat: he'll realizes there's a reason if his system crashes..lol
[07:36] <soundray> Uggggg: is that all you see from lsusb?
[07:36] <ompaul> ammz, click on this >>>>     #ubuntu-effects
[07:36] <lenaud01> !divx
[07:36] <soundray> Uggggg: do not paste here btw.
[07:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <ompaul> ammz, right click even
[07:36] <Uggggg> doh
[07:36] <lenaud01> kimitaka, type !divx in the chat
[07:36] <TheVault> this is what it said what I tried to delete it rm: cannot remove `/home/kylewitt/firefox': Is a directory
[07:36] <Uggggg> im retarded
[07:36] <IndyGunFreak> Does anyone think this would cause a dependency problem... Sudo Apt-get remove apt-get   apt-get install apt-get?
[07:36] <billymeter> Is there a way to just click on someone's name in XChat and have their name appear in the textbox? Like when you reply to someone you just click their name and puts "billymeter: " in the text box?
[07:37] <TheVault> What other command would I use to delete it
[07:37] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: i don't think so, easiest way, is type the first few letters, and then tab
[07:37] <AdvHertz> Hi all, anybody know how to enable the ene mmc card reader?
[07:37] <lufis> IndyGunFreak: what? you might tear a whole in the fabric of the universe!
[07:37] <lufis> :(
[07:37] <lenaud01> anyone know why a sound card would stop working?
[07:37] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak: ah, that's helpful, thank you
[07:37] <clearzen> techie: are you getting any of my messages?
[07:37] <soundray> Uggggg: so your printer is detected then
[07:37] <Uggggg> i forgot to turn it on
[07:37] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: for instance though, there's like 3 billys in here now, so occasionally, you may have to go more than a few letters
[07:37] <IndyGunFreak> for instance, type your name, and you'll see what i mean
[07:38] <directhex> IndyGunFreak, given apt-get isn't a package...
[07:38] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Any other way to delete that, says rm: cannot remove `/home/kylewitt/firefox': Is a directory when I did the command you told me
[07:38] <IndyGunFreak> directhex: good point.. i was just being facetious
[07:38] <soundray> Uggggg: power can be useful...
[07:38] <lenaud01> can someone help me trouble shoot my sound card not working?
[07:38] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak:  Yes, I understand how it has to be unique, thanks for that trick
[07:38] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: are you trhing to delete a directory?
[07:38] <TheVault> yeah
[07:38] <TheVault> folder
[07:38] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: sudo Nautilus
[07:38] <IndyGunFreak> then navigate to the folder and delete it.
[07:38] <AdvHertz> lenaud01: which cards?
[07:38] <TheVault> then the path name?
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: no.. it will open up Nautilus
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> then you just navigate to the folder and delete it.
[07:39] <lenaud01> AdvHertz, via 8235
[07:39] <TheVault> oh
[07:39] <rlevitin> LordLimecat: I just took the list of package names from easyubuntu and put it through aptitude... it seems to be working now, thanks for trying to help :p
[07:39] <faceface> I just re-installed network manager... still no joy...
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> but when you do Sudo Nautilus.. it opens nautilus with root access
[07:39] <luTroX> I have installed Ubuntu today, i like it, its much better than windows :)
[07:39] <lenaud01> AdvHertz, its a gateway laptop
[07:39] <Uggggg> soundray, thanks again for the tip on VNC... almost as good as a dual core with virtualization now!
[07:39] <Uggggg> hehe
[07:39] <faceface> network manager dosn't list any wireless networks, while iwlist show them nicely
[07:39] <mytruehero> How do I upgrade to 7.04?
[07:40] <billymeter> Is there any benchmarking software out there? I have an SLI rig and want to see if it is working properly under Edgy.
[07:40] <faceface> I searched the mailing list archive, but no joy
[07:40] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: if you have to ask, it might be wise to hold off till its at least a beta release
[07:40] <soundray> mytruehero: /join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[07:40] <kimitaka> faceface: you a pilot?
[07:40] <faceface> kimitaka, no laptop
[07:40] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Says command cannot be found
[07:40] <faceface> it was working beautifuly before then it just broke
[07:40] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Installing mythtv, but now it needs a mysql password etc...
[07:40] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: please recommend gksudo instead of sudo with GUI programs
[07:40] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: are you running KDE or XFce?
[07:40] <TheVault> GNOME
[07:40] <faceface> now it just won't list any wireless networks
[07:41] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: and i'm not running one.
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: now that i know nothing about i don't use mythtv
[07:41] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: it prevents a (somewhat rare) situation where sudo won't work anymore
[07:41] <faceface> I don't know how to connect to a wpa from the cli
[07:41] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: haha ok ;)
[07:41] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: I am running GNOME
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: noted.. id idn't know that.
[07:41] <LordLimecat> soundray: what exactly is the difference, except for appearance, between gksudo and sudo
[07:41] <faceface> why would network manager freak like that?
[07:41] <techie_> clearzen I got disconnected... u still there?
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> but i've never had a problem with Sudo nautilus
[07:41] <bjames> I've been having problems all day getting Linux installed - I've installed from a LiveCD and when booting I'm told by the BIOS that there are no active partitions on the drive.  How do I set the partition as active from within the LiveCD?
[07:41] <lenaud01> soundray, you know what I could do if my via 8235 sound card stoped working all of a sudden?
[07:41] <LordLimecat> because many FAQs say to use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: I'm trying to install KVM, and the instructions on help.ubuntu.com are for 7.04 only. It says "Install the 'kvm' package," but that package isn't in any of my repositories
[07:42] <soundray> LordLimecat: the way it asks for the password
[07:42] <LordLimecat> even when they recommend gksudo for graphical, they still show sudo gedit in their guides
[07:42] <techie_> clearzen...... u there... I got disconnected.
[07:42] <LordLimecat> oh
[07:42] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: well, good luck... Feisty is very unstable right now... as its being updated/worked on constantly
[07:42] <LordLimecat> no internal difference?
[07:42] <techie_> can anybody tell me how to mount my drives again.
[07:42] <techie_> or my window.
[07:42] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: neither did I, but if for some reason you lose the terminal you can lock it up
[07:42] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: Er, ok. I guess I'll hold off, then
[07:42] <faceface> ubuntu is broken for me :(
[07:42] <billymeter> mytruehero: Feisty is scheduled for release on April 19
[07:42] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: you gotta remember, Feisty hasnt' even hit beta release yet, its still in alpha...
[07:43] <techie_> somebody was helping but I lost him.
[07:43] <faceface> so long, and thanks for listening
[07:43] <soundray> LordLimecat: no, both run the program you give them with admin privileges.
[07:43] <billymeter> mytruehero: So only have to wait about another month and a half or so
[07:43] <bjames> soundray: I managed to change the drives over and now the BIOS recognises the drive, but doesn't boot - complaining that there are no active partitions.  How do I set it as active (should the installer not have done this!)?
[07:43] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: exactly
[07:43] <techie_> Can anybody help me to remount my windows folder from ubuntu?
[07:43] <NaPsTeR> hi...how do i run a program i made in eclipse?
[07:43] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: if anything it will keep you from wanting to flush yourself down the toilet in frustration
[07:43] <mytruehero> Ok. Really, I just want to get KVM working. Is there a way to do it in 6.10?
[07:44] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak: lol, yeah
[07:44] <soundray> bjames: that indicates that you don't have grub in the MBR. Grub doesn't need partitions to be active in order to boot from them.
[07:44] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: i think so, hang on
[07:44] <cyber_brain_mfkg> big problem!how to install grub in MBR???i'm useing live CD now(Thanx God and Ubuntu 4 that:)!
[07:44] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: supergrub
[07:44] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: are you running 6.10 right now?
[07:44] <soundray> lenaud01: what did you change before you lost the sound?
[07:44] <bjames> soundray: how do I install grub to the MBR?
[07:44] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: yes
[07:45] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, sorry, i just saw where you mentioned that
[07:45] <cyber_brain_mfkg> minimec: what supergrub is?
[07:45] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: np :)
[07:45] <techie_> Can anybody help? How do I remount my windows folder? The person helping me before must have left
[07:45] <billymeter> Offtopic, but my first generation iPod is dead =(
[07:45] <soundray> bjames https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows :)
[07:45] <HS^> will new ubuntu bring better fonts,  i still hate fonts on laptop
[07:45] <NaPsTeR> does anyone here use eclipse?
[07:45] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: it's a boot disk, that allows you to manipulate grub.
[07:45] <vafada> techie_: use mount command
[07:46] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[07:46] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: is nothing working, or is some things working and others not?
[07:46] <bjames> soundray: cheers
[07:46] <zattara> Hi all
[07:46] <soundray> NaPsTeR: the Java IDE?
[07:46] <techie_> i did and got stuff on my terminal.
[07:46] <HS^> will new ubuntu bring better fonts,  i still hate fonts on laptop
[07:46] <techie_> vafada>i wrote mount on terminal and a bunch of lines appeared.
[07:46] <cyber_brain_mfkg> minimec: where i can find it?how to use it?how to back grub in my MBR with old settings??? :(
[07:46] <sureshot> hey is anyone here familier with dag api headers
[07:46] <zattara> Thank You for so great linux!
[07:46] <soundray> HS^: have you activated subpixel rendering?
[07:46] <minimec> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[07:46] <NaPsTeR> ye
[07:47] <techie_> vafada>does that mean is mounted? NO, i think i have to edit something else.
[07:47] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: I'm following this tutorial ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM ), and it says "Install the 'kvm' package", but that package is not in any of my repositories
[07:47] <soundray> NaPsTeR: not sure, you might find help sooner in a Java related channel
[07:47] <slippyr4> is there an easy way of finding what device a given file is on?
[07:47] <vafada> techie_: which partition is your windows located?
[07:47] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: ok.. then you prolly need to add it, hang on
[07:47] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: It will recreate a new grub boot configuration.
[07:47] <lenaud01> did not change anything soundray it stopped working after a reboot
[07:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> minimec: i was trying to install GAG boot loader and after it's uninstall i can't boot ubuntu
[07:47] <techie_> vafada>hold on.
[07:47] <soundray> slippyr4: df $(dirname file)
[07:48] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: supergrub is what you want ;)
[07:48] <ChaseCharleville> I'm back
[07:48] <techie_> vafada> under /media/windows
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> hmmmm..
[07:48] <soundray> lenaud01: hardware fault?
[07:48] <vafada> techie_: try "mount /media/windows"
[07:48] <techie_> vafada>but now when I go there I can't read it.
[07:48] <cyber_brain_mfkg> minimec: can i find supergrub in ubuntu repositories?
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: well, you could try adding that feisty repo to your 6.10 install, see what happens.
[07:48] <hflappy> ok here goes again....WTF i can't "remove" "autoremove" "dpkg --purge" whaeva this damn vmware-player...and does anyone actually know how to remove it completely from system?
[07:48] <techie_> ok let me try it.
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> prolly not a good idea though
[07:48] <minimec> cyber_brain_mfkg: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[07:48] <HS^> will new ubuntu bring better fonts,  i still hate fonts on laptop
[07:48] <HS^> will new ubuntu bring better fonts,  i still hate fonts on laptop
[07:49] <soundray> HS^: it's rude to just repeat if someone has responded
[07:49] <ChaseCharleville> Do I have to have a bootable cd in order to install ubuntu or can i just burn the image to a regular cd?
[07:49] <techie_> vafada>thanks that did it.
[07:49] <NaPsTeR> k
[07:49] <NaPsTeR> thnx
[07:49] <vafada> techie_: cool :D
[07:49] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: Ok; how do I tell which repository it's in?
[07:49] <ChaseCharleville> and Do I have to have another hard drive
[07:49] <techie_> vafada>do you know anything abou cdrom0 and codecs?
[07:49] <vafada> techie_: what about cdrom?
[07:50] <slippyr4> any idea why i cannot write to an ntfs partition? it's mounted /dev/hda2 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) : but if i do something like touch /media/windows/testfile then i am told it's a Read-only file system.
[07:50] <techie_> vafada>i tried to play a video but the totem player saids no url has been installed for vcd!
[07:50] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: actuyally, id on't think that would be a good idea..
[07:50] <soundray> !fuse > slippyr4, read the pm from ubotu pls
[07:50] <`nicola> soundray, thanks
[07:50] <lenaud01> not sure soundray, I think I might try booting from live CD and if sound works there I will have to reinstall I gues
[07:50] <vafada> techie_: you can install codecs via synaptic
[07:50] <slippyr4> chasecharleville: if you burn the image to a cdr, that cd *will* be bootable
[07:50] <techie_> vafada>that is what I thought but could not find the codecs there.
[07:50] <`nicola> guys the ubuntu loading screen is pretty ugly (at least this one) can I change it ? thanks
[07:51] <ChaseCharleville> But it wont boot from it
[07:51] <andel> do i have to install MS SFU if i want to use libnss-ldap ?!
[07:51] <soundray> lenaud01: no, if it's definitely a software problem, come back here and see if you find more knowledgeable people than me to help you.
[07:51] <techie_> vafada>i even installed vcl and gnex i think is called but they will not read it either
[07:51] <ChaseCharleville> I changed the boot order in the bios and it still dosen't work
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> mytruehero: that tutorial on Feisty, looks like its gonna require you to install Qemu(like VMwareplayer), and Windows on top of LInux, then use the Emulated Windows to control the switch
[07:51] <lufis> Ubuntu isn't recognizing my /swap partition and whatever I try it won't mount it. What's going on? I can't use "swapon" or "mkswap" because it won't even recognize it as a partition and mount it. :(
[07:51] <Ranbee> hi, does anyone know how to re-encoded an mp3 at a slower BPM? the track i downloaded is too fast :|
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> !kvm
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <soundray> lenaud01: the "sound" in my nick refers to a former occupation with mine, not to audible sound.
[07:51] <rob-west> whats the differents in the Ubuntu CD and DVD
[07:51] <soundray> s/with/of/
[07:51] <kalila> what is ubuntu's user management applications? or gnome's?
[07:51] <lufis> soundray: you were a urologist?
[07:51] <slippyr4> soundray: do you think i'd be better making the ntfs smaller, and creating a fat32 in the free space for file exchange between oses? or is fuse reliable enough for non-mission-critical use?
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[07:51] <soundray> lufis: harhar, no
[07:52] <lufis> soundray: :P
[07:52] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: Hrm, ok. All I'm trying to do is get Windows running within Ubuntu. Is there a decent way to do it in 6.10?
[07:52] <mytruehero> IndyGunFreak: ok
[07:52] <soundray> lufis: ultrasound
[07:52] <vafada> techie_: sorry can't help you on that... my VLC plays DVD with problems
[07:52] <lufis> soundray: ah
[07:52] <lenaud01> thanks for honesty soundray
[07:52] <techie_> vafada>thanks a million for the previous help. I appreciate it.
[07:52] <ChaseCharleville> ballsack
[07:52] <techie_> vafada>have a great day. I must take a break.
[07:52] <lufis> !language | ChaseCharleville
[07:52] <ubotu> ChaseCharleville: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:52] <defrysk> `nicola, sudo apt-get install gtweakui and select after install preferences> gtweak-ui > session
[07:52] <kalila> does ubuntu have any appliocation for managing/adding/remvoing users?
[07:53] <`nicola> thanks defrysk
[07:53] <ChaseCharleville> lufis: Suck a big black DICK!
[07:53] <lufis> ChaseCharleville: later, i'm busy now
[07:53] <bjames> soundray: that procedure didn't seem to help - I think it's missed the point, as I understand it every disk has a partition table and the boot code is only run form the one marked active
[07:53] <corevette> i need help with gparted...can someone help me?
[07:53] <ChaseCharleville> Yes
[07:54] <lufis> kalila: Under system > administration > users and groups
[07:54] <soundray> bjames: no, the default DOS/Windows type master boot record passes the boot process on to the active partition.
[07:54] <ChaseCharleville> First you suck ballsack
[07:54] <HS^> soundray yes i had activated that
[07:54] <slippyr4> have we no ops awake here today?
[07:54] <soundray> bjames: grub replaces the default MBR
[07:54] <corevette> chasecharleville can you help?
[07:54] <lufis> ChaseCharleville: i said LATER. I'M BUSY RIGHT NOW.
[07:54] <lufis> sheesh
[07:54] <ChaseCharleville> lol
[07:54] <ChaseCharleville> corevette
[07:54] <ChaseCharleville> learn how to spell corvette
[07:54] <bjames> soundray:  ok, but given that it can't find the active partition does this mean that grub hasn't written a correctg entry in the MBR?
[07:54] <soundray> slippyr4: ops assume operator status on an as-needed basis
[07:54] <ChaseCharleville> then go suck a dick and then ask me again
[07:55] <slippyr4> surely one is needed right now?
[07:55] <ScatterBrain> Anyone willing to help me an LVM problem?
[07:55] <corevette> chasecharleville its a play on my name corey.....learn how to spell using spaces
[07:55] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: i can try
[07:55] <cedric30> Hi
[07:55] <soundray> bjames: yes, it does mean that.
[07:55] <bjames> sudo -i
[07:55] <bjames> oops
[07:55] <lufis> hi cedric30
[07:55] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: what is up?
[07:55] <becki> is there something like an ubuntu-minimal install cd available? so that it starts an installer and fetches the rest of ubuntu from the web?
[07:55] <soundray> bjames: when you run the grub "setup" command, make sure you feed it the diskname as a parameter, ie. (hd0) instead of (hd0,1)
[07:56] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I've got a hardware RAID array that I've used to as a single LVM PV.  I added a drive the RAID but I can't get LVM to see the extra space.
[07:56] <ChaseCharleville> Well, seeing as how I capitalized Charleville, it's HINTING that there's supposed to be a space there, dumbshit.
[07:56] <corevette> Windows XP needs to rewrite the master boot record...but it can't rewrite it since it can't write on ext3....how do i make the MBR ntfs?
[07:56] <soundray> bjames: that will install it in the MBR.
[07:56] <ChaseCharleville> You suck a cock
[07:56] <ChaseCharleville> and it will work
[07:56] <bjames> soundray: I did that
[07:56] <lufis> ChaseCharleville: don't act like a child. be civil or leave
[07:56] <corevette> !ChaseCharleville|wtf
[07:56] <soundray> corevette: you are confused as to what MBR is
[07:57] <bjames> soundray: and it said it succeeded
[07:57] <billymeter> Someone is grumpy
[07:57] <corevette> !wtf|chasecharleville
[07:57] <ubotu> chasecharleville: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:57] <ChaseCharleville> Not acting like a child, I'm having fun
[07:57] <soundray> !ops | ChaseCharleville - profanity
[07:57] <ubotu> ChaseCharleville - profanity: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:57] <bjames> should it not be hda1?
[07:57] <ChaseCharleville> yes
[07:58] <soundray> bjames: depending on which syntax you used
[07:58] <bjames> I remember one of the bootloaders using weird numbers
[07:58] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: so you expanded the raid array?
[07:58] <soundray> bjames: no, definitely not hda1 if you want it in the MBR
[07:58] <bjames> can we make a private chat?
[07:58] <ammz> i wonder how you are when you get angry ChaseCharleville
[07:58] <shatrat> grub would say (hd0,0)
[07:58] <topato> hi, I just installed an ftp server on ubuntu. everything works fine inside my LAN, but accessing it from outside is very slow (and  sometimes does not work). Other services like sshfs etc works fine. Any settings I could do besides opening port 21 in my firewall?
[07:58] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: Yes that went off without a problem.
[07:58] <corevette> soundray, how do i install winxp so it can write to the mbr?  i'm installing it as slave
[07:58] <soundray> bjames: meet me in #ubuntu-classroom pls
[07:59] <ammz> oh he godt kicked
[07:59] <DBFT> sorry i had to go
[07:59] <Uggggg> will 512mb of ram be enough for Feisty?
[07:59] <ammz> how do i change channel? Someone? :P
[07:59] <DBFT> what was it i had to install to get my wireless network card working?
[07:59] <shatrat> Uggggg, sure
[07:59] <soundray> corevette: you are completely confusing terms
[07:59] <lufis> Uggggg: yes, more than enough
[07:59] <Uggggg> awesome!
[07:59] <lufis> Uggggg: make sure you have a good swap though
[07:59] <ammz> how do i change channel? Someone? :P
[07:59] <soundray> Uggggg: newer ubuntu versions tend to be less demanding than the previous
[07:59] <shatrat> Uggggg, more is always better, but 512 will still be plenty to run
[07:59] <DBFT> ammz, /join?
[08:00] <Uggggg> i have 750MB swap
[08:00] <Uggggg> is that ok
[08:00] <ammz> oh ty! I am new at irc
[08:00] <sigterm> pick up the TV remote and press up/down =P
[08:00] <corevette> soundray, so how would i do it
[08:00] <cedric30> I have a big problem, I had to shut down my computer badly and now gnome is very long too start and all the windows i open are long too, I had some errors on my disk using fsck and now I have no error but it is ever long
[08:00] <cedric30> ?
[08:00] <sigterm> :)
[08:00] <shatrat> Uggggg, probably
[08:00] <lufis> Uggggg: i run ubuntu on 256+128
[08:00] <cedric30> is ther an issue ?
[08:00] <billymeter> topato: FTP works on ports 20 and 21 if I'm not mistaken
[08:00] <lufis> Uggggg: works fine
[08:00] <goban> ubuntu defaulted to 7 GB of swap for me
[08:00] <goban> whys that
[08:00] <Uggggg> cool
[08:00] <shatrat> goban, well, I think it does your memory x1.5
[08:00] <Uggggg> yeah I am upgrading to 512mb soon
[08:01] <quaal> does anyone know why when i ctrl-alt-bksp and i try to log back into gnome, i just get an empty black screen, with a moving mouse cursor ?
[08:01] <quaal> i have to reboot the computer if i want to get in X again
[08:01] <topato> billymeter: Still the same problem
[08:01] <DBFT> how woudl i install ndiswrapper on a computer without internet access?
[08:01] <soundray> corevette: I don't know where to start helping you. You will have to understand basic stuff first. Join #ubuntu-classroom -- I *may* have time for you there later
[08:01] <cedric30> I have nothing connect to my computer people say me it's a problem from system file
[08:01] <serengeti> hi, can you think of any reason why Xv shouldn't work on opensource ati drivers? i'm not using aiglx/glx at the moment but still get just a blank window instead of a movie
[08:01] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I think I've come to the conclusion that LVM is something that I didn't need in this setup.
[08:01] <dan_> can anyone here me?
[08:01] <Uggggg> no
[08:01] <cedric30> I had to reinstall all
[08:01] <cedric30> ?
[08:02] <NaPsTeR> how do i watch dvds on my pc?
[08:02] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: But i have no place to store 1TB+ while I rebuild.
[08:02] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: i'm sure this has worked previously for me: you've rebooted since you expanded the array? what does pvdisplay say?
[08:02] <dan_> www.ubuntuguide.com
[08:02] <Uggggg> get automatix and vlc
[08:02] <shatrat> !dvd | napster
[08:02] <ubotu> napster: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:02] <Uggggg> automatix rules
[08:02] <riaal> where is ktorrent located when installed whit apt-get?
[08:02] <defrysk> Uggggg, no
[08:02] <shatrat> Uggggg, not really, it can hose your system
[08:02] <billymeter> topato: So the FTP server works fine on your LAN, but goes slow when going through your firewall?
[08:02] <dan_> hey ugg i dont suppose u know much about xmms?
[08:02] <lufis> riaal: /usr/bin probably
[08:02] <defrysk> !automatix | Uggggg
[08:02] <ubotu> Uggggg: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:02] <riaal> lufis, thanks
[08:02] <topato> billymeter: exactly
[08:02] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: Look at this thread:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375891
[08:03] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I got tired of waiting.  ;-)
[08:03] <lufis> riaal: you can run ktorrent from the command line
[08:03] <lufis> without a path
[08:03] <topato> billymeter: I'm trying to mount the ftp (mount -t ftp) under os x, but it refuses most of the time.. I can ftp in to it through the shell though.
[08:03] <kimitaka> wish I knew about video stuff, I can't even play a simple divx file atm
[08:03] <riaal> lufis, know, Im trying to locate it for Firefox =/
[08:03] <cedric30> Is there someone who had had this problem of long time on start
[08:03] <lufis> riaal: ah
[08:03] <Uggggg> me shrugs  never heard of an actual problem caused by the newest builds...  the devs seem fairly intelligent and capable
[08:04] <billymeter> topato: Can you mount the ftp server via the Finder?
[08:04] <Uggggg> seems more like FUD to me
[08:04] <billymeter> topato: I forgot where that menu option is in OS X.
[08:04] <topato> billymeter: I can through the lan
[08:04] <topato> billymeter: and .. partially through Internet
[08:04] <billymeter> topato: What kind of firewall/router are you using?
[08:04] <techie> Does this make sense to anyone? I have a windows icon on the desktop which takes me to the directories. However if I lick Places to go there, it seems to get forever.
[08:04] <techie> this windows icon is a mount of my /media/windows from Ubuntu
[08:05] <kimitaka> fat32 techie?
[08:05] <techie> Why is my clicking Places not working now
[08:05] <techie> yes
[08:05] <sureshot> hey how do you add the multiverse repo each time i check it it dont stay there
[08:05] <cedric30> Is there someone who can suggest a solution, or I have to reinstall ubuntu ?
[08:05] <oo7> my HD filled up at the same time i was editing my fstab, using nano.  i saved fstab and closed nano.  when i looked at the contents of my fstab it is completely empty.  is there a way to recreate my fstab, without doing it manually?
[08:05] <topato> billymeter: Could this possibly be because I'm trying to access it through the Internet from inside the LAN?
[08:05] <colbert> Hi guys I have installed a theme I really love but only want to change the color of the scrollbar in Ubuntu, how  ??
[08:05] <oo7> i have yet to reboot
[08:05] <riaal> Can anyone help me please? Im trying to locate Ktorrent for firefox to use as default
 but it was working fine yesterday until the icon showed up on the desktop
[08:05] <kimitaka> what happens in terminal?
[08:05] <julesa> Any ulimit gurus around? Is limiting a user to 500Mb of process space as simple as "user hard data 5120000" ?
[08:05] <topato> billymeter: I can vaguely remember hearing something about problems with port forwards when you try them from inside the lan.
[08:06] <oo7> riaal, edit your gnome menu and look at the command that is being run
I just mount /media/windows because someone told me to unmount to make this dissappear from desktop and that messed me up
[08:06] <oo7> or try from the CLI: whereis Ktorrent
[08:06] <colbert> techie: Add/Remove programs, search "ktorrent" it's right there
i think i must edit/fatsab or something
[08:06] <billymeter> topato: I'm not quite sure on accessing your external IP like that.... I did it a few weeks back with a ventrilo server and had no problems
[08:06] <colbert> oops
[08:06] <Pinnen> how is the NTFS-support in linux nowdays? If I would plug in my ntfs-partitioned 500GB discdrive.. could I write and remove stuff from it without making the disc corrupt?
[08:06] <colbert> riaal: Add/Remove programs, search "ktorrent" it's right there
[08:06] <kimitaka> can you browse the directories from terminal?
[08:06] <topato> billymeter: I see. weird.
[08:06] <Mythmon> anyone know why my mouse cursor is corrupted on my secondary monitor?
[08:07] <techie> colbert what about ktorrent.
[08:07] <oo7> Pinnen, NTFS write is still experimental, but i believe you can write greater than 16kb files nowadays
[08:07] <techie> remove, or add, if so what will it do?
[08:07] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: i found my notes, sorry for the delay. pvresize is what you need
[08:07] <oo7> Pinnen, NTFS read is stable i believe
[08:07] <colbert> techie that was meant for riaal sorry :)
[08:07] <techie> colbert what will this do the adding or removing of ktorrent?
[08:07] <techie> ah, ok
[08:07] <techie> colbert. ok
[08:07] <billymeter> topato: You verified your internal IP on your FTP server and make sure it didn't change? (I'm assuming you're running DHCP on your LAN)
[08:07] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: OK, hold on and let me try.
[08:07] <topato> billymeter: It's a static address.
[08:07] <cedric30> I search a solution to repare my system file
[08:07] <oo7> is there a way to recreate my FSTAB?  currently mine is empty and i cannot reboot
[08:07] <cedric30> ?
i do not know how to browse directories from terminal. tell me how
[08:08] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: you should just need pvresize /dev/sdd  - but use the -t (test) param first
[08:08] <tomas_> does anyone know how to install JOOST in ubuntu
[08:08] <topato> billymeter: I have reserved a range for serverish computers
[08:08] <Pinnen> oo7: ohh, ok.. well.. I've tried the READ-part before.. and write a couple of years ago.. which destroyed the disk :/ And it was still experimental then :) Well well... then I have to figure this out in some other way, thanks for the quck answer :)
[08:08] <billymeter> topato: Ah, okay. Port forwarding on ports 20 and 21 for the ftp server?
[08:08] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I don't seem to have a pvresize command.
[08:08] <Uggggg> what does sudo chmod a+r do?
[08:08] <riaal> colbert, I know, what im trying to do is, when I open a torrent in firefox it asks for a program to open it whit and kTorrent isn't there. So I have to locate the ".exe" file for it
[08:08] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: when i did it, my LV's were NOT active. i don't know if this matters.
[08:08] <Mythmon> techie: the command "cd" changes directories, and "ls" lists the files in teh current director
even now my terminal is very slow and I can't access it
[08:08] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: root@firebrand:~# pv
[08:08] <ScatterBrain> pvchange   pvcreate   pvdisplay  pvmove     pvremove   pvs        pvscan
[08:08] <GMWeezel> How do I add a document template?
[08:09] <oo7> Pinnen: 11 days ago NTFS 3G released version 1.0: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/releases.html
i can't access terminal either.
[08:09] <oo7> Pinnen, it's gotta be worth the read
[08:09] <Mythmon> so no one knows about setting up dual monitors with ATI drivers?
[08:09] <Pinnen> oo7: ok, I'll check it out.. tnx a bunch :)
[08:09] <oo7> np
[08:09] <oo7> Mythmon, i dont think it matters that it's ATI
[08:09] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I know in the post I said the machine was running dapper, but it's actully running breezy.
[08:09] <oo7> it's X-org specific
[08:09] <Mythmon> ah
[08:09] <oo7> let me see if i can find a doc....
[08:09] <Mythmon> the mouse thing or the cursor problem?
[08:10] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: did you get it working?
[08:10] <Mythmon> thx
when trying to access terminal the little wheel goes around but nothing happens.
[08:10] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: On xawtv, but now no sound.
[08:10] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: root@kenny:~# which pvresize
[08:10] <slippyr4> /sbin/pvresize
[08:10] <techie> Anybody knows what is going on?
[08:10] <oo7> Mythmon, here's one for gentoo, if you're comfortable with the CLI you can follow this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[08:10] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: How do I set it up as fullscreen?  Not just 640x480?
[08:10] <kimitaka> you don't want your windows partition mounted from fstab until you make sure you can mount it manually in terminal...
[08:11] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: that i don't know.... but your sound issue, hang on
[08:11] <`nicola> defrysk I wasn't talking about that loading screen
[08:11] <Mythmon> cool, thanks oo7, maybe i can get some info from this
[08:11] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: yeah, it's not on my machine.  Those "pv" commands I showed you earlier is all I have.
[08:11] <zyth> Can anyone recommend a good Nintendo DS emu for Edgy?
i can unmount the windows and see if I get access to my terminal again. does this make sense?
[08:11] <recon31> hello everyone can someone tell me how to give my dvd permissions so gxine can read it from mythtv
[08:11] <kimitaka> yeah
[08:11] <Mythmon> zyth: i didnt know there were any NDS emus for anything?
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: right click the "Horn"... and look where it says Select a Device, Try changing that.. for instance, on my card, it has to be set to OSSMixer and Line 1
[08:12] <riaal> Please, when I wan't to open a torren't file in firefox (not download it first) I want to open it in kTorrent but it isn't in the "list".. I have to locate it.. anyone know's where its located?
[08:12] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: i'm running edgy, and it's there. what is your raid controller? is it natively supported or did you have to fiddle around adding modules?
[08:12] <zyth> Mythmon, several
[08:12] <oo7> Mythmon, you need to add another Monitor section and Screen section and another device section if it's a second video card
[08:12] <Mythmon> zyth: oh, i guess im behind
no, I can't access my terminal or my places now.
[08:12] <techie> should i reboot?
[08:12] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: I'm kinda lost on "the horn"
[08:12] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: is a Dell Perc4 - its supported with the MegaRAID module.  Built in.
[08:12] <kimitaka> change the uid and gid values in fstab might work recon31
should i reboot or reinstall anything?
[08:12] <colbert> riaal: Ok, well then I am not sure, sorry :(
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: you don't see like a horn in your taxkbar to adjust the system volume?
[08:13] <Mythmon> i, no, i have multi monitor working, well, mostly, its just that i cant drag things between windows and my cursor is messed up on my secondary
[08:13] <obelix> :)
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: it looks like a horn to me anyways, maybe some would say its a speaker..
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: is it not there?
[08:13] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: that makes it pretty easy. download an edgy livecd - server would be a good choice cos it has lvm2 tools in it already. modprobe your raid module, then do the pvresize, then reboot.
[08:13] <oo7> riaal: from the command prompt, type "whereis ktorrent" or possibly "whereis KTorrent" or maybe even "whereis Ktorrent"
[08:13] <riaal> colbert, I ninjad it =) thanks anyway
[08:13] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Got it.
[08:13] <recon31> does anyone know how to give permissions to a dvd/cdrom player
[08:13] <Flosoft> hey
[08:13] <riaal> oo7, thanks
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> ok, make sure you know what the options are before you start
[08:13] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: If I select SAA1737 mixer there's nothing
[08:14] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: so long as you're lvm2, the metadata ought to just work out
[08:14] <Flosoft> anyone here with a solution to this problem? http://paste.florianjensen.com/?47
[08:14] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Before I start?
[08:14] <Askar> HI! How do I format my external harddrive in ubuntu?
[08:14] <Uggggg> what is sane and do I need it for my scanner if I already have Xsane?
[08:14] <kimitaka> i don't have any instant answers techie but you should 1) learn some basic shell commands and get wher eyou can move around 2) mount the windows partition manually from terminal after, after that works 3) add it to fstab
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: before you start, just make a note of the settings, so you can change them back.
[08:14] <slippyr4> askar: what sort of ext. hdd is it? usb?
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: but my point is, screw around with different settings, and it will probably start to work eventually
[08:14] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Where do I change settings?
[08:14] <billymeter> Anyone have a Logitech G15 keyboard and found any useful apps for using it under Edgy?
[08:14] <Noiano> hello
[08:14] <billymeter> Hello!
[08:14] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: thanks.  I'll have to do that tomorrow.  The box is co-lo'ed and I can't get to it except via SSH until then.
[08:14] <Noiano> anybody in helping mood?
[08:15] <ScatterBrain> Thanks for your help.
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: you right clicked and preferences, right?
[08:15] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: THanks got it.
[08:15] <Noiano> I am getting mad with wifi...
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: ok... did it work?
[08:15] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Line in was muted, how retarded.
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: lol
[08:15] <oo7> Flosoft, first the stupid questions....that was run as root right?
[08:15] <recon31> I need help to noiano
[08:15] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, haha, thanks :)
[08:15] <Askar> sippyr4: yes USB
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: no sweat
[08:15] <recon31> but havn't got it
[08:15] <kimitaka> message to all 1073 in channel: Learn some basic terminal, as soon as something weird starts happening you'll be fixing it in terminal
[08:15] <Noiano> I cannot connect to any wifi net even if i can see it from iwlist
[08:15] <nicobrain_> hi @all
[08:16] <slippyr4> scatterbrain: i think this solution will work though. If i was you i'd investigate upgrading your lvm tools; but i'm not going to suggest you do that now cos there are potential kernel compatibility issues etc etc. the livecd is the safest way to go. presumably you have a backup for if this all goes pete tong?
[08:16] <directhex> message to patronising people: don't be patronising
[08:16] <happyface0> My Ubuntu screen (after the splash screen) is all flashing colors, even in terminal view. I can get in through 'single' mode in grub, but don't know how to fix it. I think its an x problem. Please help!
[08:16] <Askar> slippyr4: its usb
[08:16] <slippyr4> kimitaka: is there a gnome app available for that?
[08:16] <n-iCe> Hello
[08:16] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Now for full screen.
[08:16] <nicobrain_> i cant burn a cd in ubuntu via gnomebaker, serpentine or k3b
[08:16] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: are you using Tvtime or Xaw?
[08:16] <mytruehero> What's a good way to run Windows within Ubuntu 6.10? I'm doing some web development, and need to see how pages look in IE.
[08:16] <n-iCe> Which one is the fastest distro ?
[08:17] <directhex> nicobrain, all of the above are frontends for cdrecord
[08:17] <happyface0> I think you can run IE in linux somehow mytruehero
[08:17] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Xaw
[08:17] <slippyr4> askar: have you plugged it in? get a shell and type "dmesg" - that last few lines should give you a clue what device the usb drive was assigned. it'll be /dev/sdX where X is a,b, c etc.
[08:17] <oo7> Askar, when you plug in and turn on your USB drive, you should be able to check 'dmesg' to see the device name, such as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb, etc.  so you can use cfdisk /dev/sda to create partitions, then you can use mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 (or whatever file system)
[08:17] <billymeter> mytruehero: You could probably download VMWare and run Windows in a virtual machine
[08:17] <directhex> n-iCe, not properly measurable, and doesn't matter for most people
[08:17] <kimitaka> use wine mytruehero
[08:17] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: ok.. i know on TVTime, its a matter of checking a box in the "screen output"....
[08:17] <kimitaka> vmware... parallels...
[08:17] <directhex> ie in wine is not a proper way of doing web development. there are subtle changes in the way things are rendered
[08:17] <happyface0> No, there was this site which you could see a page in every possible browser, let me find.
[08:17] <ScatterBrain> slippyr4: I actually need to upgrade that machine to Dapper or Edgy, but just haven't done it yet.  I'll try the live CD and see how it goes.
[08:17] <manitoba98xp> What is the recommended way to suspend the system to disk (similar to Hibernate in Windows) in Ubuntu Edgy/Feisty?
[08:17] <bastiaan> mytruehero: Use IEs4Linux script
[08:17] <n-iCe> directhex what?
[08:18] <kimitaka> parallels is only 50 dollars or so
[08:18] <nicobrain_> derecthex: k3b is gives me an error if i starting it via a konsole and sudo http://paste-it.net/1460
[08:18] <n-iCe> what distro use less resources?
[08:18] <nicobrain_> the other programs gives me no error
[08:18] <slippyr4> happyface0: browsercam
[08:18] <directhex> n-iCe, the oldest and least functional one that runs on your hardware
[08:18] <slippyr4> happyface0: .com
[08:18] <oo7> manitoba98xp,  i click on the shutdown button them go to suspend, but also from the CLI there's the command 'suspend'
[08:18] <zigzag71> hello
[08:18] <zigzag71> how is everyone today?
[08:19] <n-iCe> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:19] <slippyr4> !hi | zigzag71
[08:19] <ubotu> zigzag71: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:19] <happyface0> mytruehero there you go, browsercam.com
[08:19] <oo7> n-iCe, try fluxbox instead of gnome/kde
[08:19] <LordLimecat> isnt there a linux that uses like 1mb of ram?
[08:19] <LordLimecat> microLinux :D
[08:19] <oo7> linuxfromscratch
[08:19] <LordLimecat> runs off of toasters and dryer lint
[08:19] <directhex> assorted embedded linuxes. you won't get a functional desktop kernel into a meg
[08:19] <happyface0> if my questino isnt answered do I just repost it in irc until it is?
[08:19] <LordLimecat> somethin like that
[08:19] <zigzag71> hi ubotu
[08:19] <LordLimecat> lol
[08:19] <slippyr4> lol @ zigzag71
[08:19] <mytruehero> bastiaan: That looks great. Thanks!
[08:19] <shatrat> happyface0, eventually it you might want to try the forums.
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: down under "Global Options...   http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/xawtvrc.5.html
[08:20] <riaal> I keep getting "Invalid resonse" in kTorrent from some of the largest trackers. why is that? =S
[08:20] <oo7> happyface0, search ubuntuforums.org while you wait for your question to be answered :)
[08:20] <oo7> riaal: it might be a better idea to ask in some torrent chan
[08:20] <slippyr4> happyface0: within reason, yes. especially try at different times of the day too. consider the forums. what was your quetion anyway
[08:21] <pir21390> who knows a graphical 7zip unzipper?
[08:21] <happyface0> My Ubuntu screen (after the splash screen) is all flashing colors, even in terminal view. I can get in through 'single' mode in grub, but don't know how to fix it. I think its an x problem. Please help!
[08:21] <oo7> pir21390, Archive Manager
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> pir21390: there's a couple zip programs in the repos
[08:21] <riaal> oo7, probably =/
[08:21] <poningru> happyface0: if its in the terminal as well then its not X prob
[08:21] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i change the rights of a second hdd to have access to write and alter from root?
[08:21] <Taime1> can anyone help me get plugin support in konqueror?
[08:22] <riaal> so, what other torrent clent then ktorrent is there? noone?
[08:22] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei: are you referring to a windows drive?
[08:22] <oo7> Azureus
[08:22] <oo7> Diluge
[08:22] <Taime1> riaal, there are lots
[08:22] <Comrade-Sergei> LordLimecat well its a fat32
[08:22] <sasch> can help me with installation of my ubuntu ??
[08:22] <happyface0> poningru, its like the resolution in terminal is all swished to the max or something
[08:22] <LordLimecat> oh
[08:22] <happyface0> any suggestions?
[08:22] <Taime1> azureus, bittorrent etc..
[08:22] <LordLimecat> lol, that will work
[08:22] <slippyr4> pir21390: Xarchiver does it
[08:22] <billymeter> My 'man woman' command doesn't work. Can anyone help?
[08:22] <zigzag71> I added sources to download from on the desktop and now I can not boot the hard drive back into ubuntu
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> pir21390: doesn't fileroller handle zip files also?
[08:22] <poningru> billymeter: lol
[08:23] <pir21390> IndyGunFreak: i thought it did...
[08:23] <will> Anyone know of a good OSX dock program I can apt-get or Synaptid?
[08:23] <billymeter> poningru: ;)
[08:23] <sasch> why when i install my ubuntu with raid preconfigured in partition .... grub say me /dev/md1 filesystem don't reconignezed
[08:23] <oo7> billybob, sudo apt-get install women
[08:23] <poningru> billymeter: fsck.woman /dev/gf
[08:23] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei:  can you be more specific?  why can you not simply mount it normally and edit it
[08:23] <Taime1> will, i use gdesklets
[08:23] <will> Synaptic.*
[08:23] <will> Taime1, How do I get it?
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> i hate when people start askign questions and just leave int he middle of it, w/o saying weter its solved or not.
[08:23] <poningru> or fsck.woman /dev/wife
[08:23] <will> What's it like?
[08:23] <Comrade-Sergei> LordLimecat i mounted it yes, but all the permissions are root..
[08:23] <Taime1> install gdesklets...thereis a dock in it
[08:23] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I'm using 6.10 and I have a problem with audacity: it doesn't show any text (screenshot: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2693/adacityym2.png ). I had the same problem also while installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, so I suppose it's a problem with libwxgtk - has anyone an idea on how I could fix it?
[08:23] <happyface0> poningru if its not x, what could it be?
[08:23] <LordLimecat> i see
[08:23] <poningru> !gdesklet | will
[08:23] <ubotu> will: gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:23] <LordLimecat> i couldo be wrong
[08:24] <Taime1> i set mine up to look nice, wanna see a screenshot of it?
[08:24] <LordLimecat> but when you do the mount command
[08:24] <LordLimecat> the umode option, try 000?
[08:24] <Comrade-Sergei> me?
[08:24] <LordLimecat> (again, i could be totally wrong)
[08:24] <LordLimecat> yes
[08:24] <Askar> what should I use when having external harddrives in ubuntu? fat32?
[08:24] <Comrade-Sergei> is there just a command LimeLordcat
[08:24] <poningru> happyface0: do you see the same thing with X as you see in the terminal?
[08:24] <oo7> Askar, no
[08:24] <LordLimecat> mount blah -o .......umode=0000?
[08:24] <poningru> Askar: ext2
[08:24] <LordLimecat> did you have to run the mount command/
[08:24] <poningru> Askar: is this external hdd going to be used with windows?
[08:25] <Askar> can windows read ext2?
[08:25] <poningru> yes
[08:25] <happyface0> poningru, pretty much. runlevel 3 works, though and I can see the terminal fine
[08:25] <LordLimecat> askar yes
[08:25] <oo7> Askar, the only reason to use fat32 would be if you dual boot and needed to access the partitoin on both windows and linux
[08:25] <Askar> yes
[08:25] <Comrade-Sergei> Lord Limecat what that makes no sense
[08:25] <slippyr4> taimel yes please
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> Askar: i don't think so.
[08:25] <oo7> but yah, still use ext2
[08:25] <Taime1> can anyone help me get plugin support in konqueror?  pretty pleeeeease..
[08:25] <happyface0> poningru the only diff. between terminal and non, is that non-terminal has flashing colors and terminal doesnt
[08:25] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei: did you have to run any commands to mount the drive?
[08:25] <slippyr4> askar: depends if you need windows to be able to read them
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> ah maybe it does
[08:25] <poningru> !ext | Askar
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> !ext2
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <will> Taime1, Is it a memory hog?
[08:25] <Taime1> not at all
[08:25] <will> Really?
[08:25] <Askar> Is ext2 better than fat32? If so why?
[08:26] <Taime1> that i can tell anyway
[08:26] <zcat[1] > Askar: windows can use ext3 and resierfs, there is software for it. But for drives you can just plug into any machine I'd stick with fat32
[08:26] <Comrade-Sergei> LordLimecat yes its mounted to /HDD but i need to change its permissions to "everyone and it wont let me do it through the gui
[08:26] <LordLimecat> slippyr, askar--there IS a windows driver that allows ext3 access
[08:26] <LordLimecat> but its buggy IMO
[08:26] <poningru> Askar: fragmentation
[08:26] <LordLimecat> and a hassle
[08:26] <Taime1> wanna see mine?
[08:26] <will> Taime1, Can I use an OSX like dock with it?
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: why not just use Firefox?
[08:26] <Askar> poningru: fragmentation?
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> or Opera
[08:26] <will> See your whast?
[08:26] <will> What.*
[08:26] <zcat[1] > also the windows reiserfs really messed up my filesystem once...
[08:26] <Askar> LordLimecat: is it built in in winXP?
[08:26] <Taime1> IndyGunFreak: firefox doesnt work for all sites
[08:27] <Taime1> IndyGunFreak: one in particular only opens in konqueror
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: hmm, show me a site that doesn't work.. cuz i've had no issues with it.
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> I've used Firefox for years
[08:27] <Taime1> okay
[08:27] <zcat[1] > using fat32 or reiser from windows is about as risky as using ntfs from linux, I think..
[08:27] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: Can you see where xawtv puts it's config?
[08:27] <Taime1> www.toonamijetstream.com
[08:27] <Taime1> done
[08:27] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei: you had to run a command like "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t vfat -o [some options] ,umode=022
[08:27] <obelix> I can't find it
[08:27] <LordLimecat> correct?
[08:27] <metalhedd> how can I have a custom apache server thats only locally accessible and runs with the permissions of my main user?  I'd like to write a webapp to play movies/TV Shows on my TV-out
[08:27] <oo7> my HD filled up while i was editing my fstab.  when i saved the fstab and closed it, it didn't save and my fstab is now  blank.  is there a util for creating my fstab, like whatever util was used when dapper was convered to edgy?  any ideas besides doing this manually?
[08:27] <Comrade-Sergei> LordLimecat its already mounted to /HDD though that ll re mount it
[08:27] <Taime1> will, are you looking for an OSX docklike applet?
[08:27] <LordLimecat> umount it
[08:28] <will> Taimel, There is a firefox extension that will allow you to use the IE render engine.
[08:28] <will> Taimel, Yes.
[08:28] <Taime1> mine looks just like it...only, doesnt autohide...
[08:28] <LordLimecat> then do the EXACT same command, except make the umode=0000
[08:28] <Taime1> the kdocker does tho i think
[08:28] <LordLimecat> this is just a guess, i could be off (anyone care to comment?)
[08:28] <Taime1> kdocker, kdock?
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: maybe try Opera, i don't know.. but if you have 1.5 or above, it offers you a plugin
[08:29] <Taime1> the plugin does not install
[08:29] <Taime1> and opera crashes
[08:29] <LordLimecat> opera 9.10 was screwed up :(
[08:29] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: what about ie4linux or something like that?
[08:29] <Taime1> why isnt anyone in any channel interested in showing me how to get konqueror to use plugins?
[08:29] <LordLimecat> unstable for me compared to 9.02 (in windows)
[08:29] <will> Synaptic says: kooldock or kdocker?
[08:29] <Comrade-Sergei> LordLimecat i dont think your understanding, ITS ALREADY MOUNTED!
[08:29] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: its a conspiracy...
[08:29] <Taime1> kdocker
[08:29] <will> Pick the latter one?
[08:29] <will> Okay.
[08:29] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei: i understand.
[08:29] <will> Thanks.
[08:29] <LordLimecat> please umount it
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: first we assasinated kennedy, then we made sure you couldn't use plugins in Konq
[08:30] <Taime1> haha
[08:30] <LordLimecat> sudo umount /dev/whatever_you_had_lasttime
[08:30] <Comrade-Sergei> why i had to alter my fstab for that LordLimecat
[08:30] <Taime1> fells that way.
[08:30] <LordLimecat> oh
[08:30] <LordLimecat> alright
[08:30] <LordLimecat> go into the fstab
[08:30] <LordLimecat> and find the line you edited
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: seriously though...  id ont' know muca bout Konq, thus why im directing you other directions..
[08:30] <LordLimecat> and change the umode to 0000
[08:30] <Taime1> its cool
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> ie4linux is supposed to be almost 100% compatible with MS sites
[08:30] <K3nto> im getting a very laggy cursor when running fullscreen games (wow in specific) how can i fix it?
[08:30] <LordLimecat> just replace the 7s with 0s
[08:30] <Taime1> slow tho isnt it?
[08:31] <happyface0> poningru I foud someone with the exact problem I have: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370031&highlight=flashing+screen
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> Taime1: if its MS compatible, probably..lol, but i've never used it
[08:31] <LordLimecat> k3nto: wow is workign now?
[08:31] <LordLimecat> :D
[08:31] <K3nto> not in beryl
[08:31] <LordLimecat> -_-
[08:31] <K3nto> yea
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: did ou find that config file?
[08:31] <kitche> K3nto: wow won't work in beryl probably due to you using XGL which kills 3d acc
[08:31] <Uggggg> ive got a few .sh scripts I would like to automatically run in a certain order when I doubleclick an Icon is this possible?
[08:32] <K3nto> im using automatic
[08:32] <LordLimecat> Comrade-Sergei: if i wasnt clear/making sense, let me know, ill be more specific
[08:32] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: still looking, i don't think it has one.
[08:32] <obelix> only /etc
[08:32] <obelix> /etc/X11
[08:32] <obelix> /etc/X11/app-defaults
[08:32] <obelix> /etc/X11/app-defaults/Xawtv
[08:32] <IndyGunFreak> its gotta have one somewhere
[08:32] <LordLimecat> kitche--beryl CAN work with Wow when using nvidia
[08:32] <LordLimecat> which k3nto is
[08:32] <Brunellus> where can I list block devices
[08:32] <kitche> LordLimecat: not if he's uing XGL though
[08:32] <Brunellus> how do I list valid block devices
[08:32] <whazilla> hey IndyGunFreak
[08:32] <LordLimecat> true, but hes not
[08:32] <billymeter> Eh, Beryl isn't that cool IMHO.....
[08:32] <IndyGunFreak> whazilla: ?
[08:33] <whazilla> u dcc chat requested me ?
[08:33] <LordLimecat> billy, it is with Warcraft when you can have one desktop be wow, and another be somethin else
[08:33] <Pinnen> oo7: well.. the ntfs-3g driver seems to be fine, then I'll definently make a switch for my desktopcomputer (from xp to edgy) :) tnx again
[08:33] <kitche> LordLimecat: so he's using AIGLX instead of XGL?
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> whazilla: that was like 4 days ago, and it was a huge cluster.. all i can do at this point is apologize
[08:33] <LordLimecat> kitche: AFAIK, hes usin nvidia GLX
[08:33] <K3nto> kitche: automatic
[08:33] <whazilla> huge cluster ?
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> you obviously werent one of the 300 people that PM'd me back, or even better, sent me IM's cussing me out..lol
[08:33] <whazilla> come again beep beep ?
[08:33] <LordLimecat> and for some reason, his wow screen is black when he opens it with beryl
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> whazilla: i accidentally dcc'd the whole room
[08:33] <LordLimecat> mine works perfectly
[08:33] <whazilla> what happend ?
[08:34] <billymeter> LordLimecat: In my experience when playing games fullscreen with beryl, the panels wouldn't hide, they would stay on the top and the bottom of the screen.
[08:34] <whazilla> das happenz
[08:34] <kitche> K3nto: automatic for what are youusign XGL or AIGLX with nvidia drivers
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> lot of very unhappy people over that...
[08:34] <LordLimecat> billymeter: this was the case for WoW, you are righ
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> whazilla: trust me, don't do it, you'll feel Seveas wrath.. :)
[08:34] <LordLimecat> not for tremulous or other games
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> but he's forgiving if its a legit accident
[08:34] <LordLimecat> WoW became the wallpaper
[08:34] <Ippatsu> how do I restore all Ubuntu's default fonts?
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> i just had to sit a couple days in the penalty box
[08:35] <xf00f> has anyone else had problems with yamipod? it just sits there "updating play count" when I fire it up until I force quit it (that's with a shuffle) Is that a known issue or just my PC playing up?
[08:35] <billymeter> LordLimecat: Ah, I see
[08:35] <K3nto> lil it still says automatic
[08:35] <K3nto> lol*
[08:35] <Uggggg> does anyone here know how to set up an icon to start a .sh script
[08:35] <Uggggg> ?
[08:35] <j3g> quit
[08:35] <Uggggg> is that possible even?
[08:35] <kitche> K3nto: since the ubuntu driver doesn't support the feature that beryl needs to run
[08:35] <LordLimecat> billymeter: but it works, and allows easy rotating between game and other stuff, like thottbot or (HOPEFULLY) a second WoW instance :D
[08:35] <zYe> can anyone help me set up a home network
[08:36] <LordLimecat> imagine 2 WoW instances, you could follow yourself with a second account priest
[08:36] <gravelBad> can someone provide some insight on a SCSI write buffer failer problem with the Fusion MPT driver?
[08:36] <K3nto> hey LordLimecat, i started beryl after WoW and its ok. evcept there are no borders on the windows (to close stuff) and every desktop is black
[08:36] <LordLimecat> no luck yet
[08:36] <billymeter> LordLimecat: =D I use to play WoW, taking a hiatus right now.
[08:36] <kitche> K3nto: unless of course your running nvidia 93xx driver
[08:36] <LordLimecat> K3nto, im suspecting one of 2 things
[08:36] <LordLimecat> drivers, or vidcard?
[08:36] <K3nto> i think its emerals
[08:36] <LordLimecat> MAYBE
[08:36] <K3nto> emerald
[08:36] <oo7> K3nto, reload windows decorator
[08:36] <LordLimecat> except emerald only messes with window borders, i think
[08:36] <gravelBad> I'm trying to set up a new drive array using 2 identical external raid boxes, and two servers, each server is having the same problem
[08:37] <LordLimecat> beryls the one managing the whole shebang, i think
[08:37] <gravelBad> any SCSI geniuses on here?
[08:37] <K3nto> oo7: still the same
[08:37] <LordLimecat> but your hardware is weaker than mine, and your drivers were installed differently
[08:37] <TheVault> Got a question. Since I installed Ubuntu, I have been putting it through a series of tests and so far its passing :), but I just popped in a DVD and it won't play and I got the codecs to do so,  whats going on?
[08:37] <LordLimecat> i think one of the two is where the issue is
[08:37] <oo7> close beryl-manager and run it from the CLI, that way you can watch error messages
[08:37] <LordLimecat> .....would you be able to restore wireless function if we borked it again?
[08:37] <oo7> when you switch to emerald, it's spitting out an error, you need to see it
[08:37] <oo7> it should not affect wireless at all
[08:37] <K3nto> LordLimecat: i am running Wow with beryl right now, i just cant see my themes and me desktops are all blaxk
[08:37] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: are you sure you have the codecs?
[08:37] <caravena> It's not work http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs/dists/feisty/ ?
[08:38] <LordLimecat> oo7--i was gonna suggest a driver install the way the guide i followed said, but last time we messed up wireless (removed certain packages)
[08:38] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yup, I went to the Add/Remove and typed Codecs and there was 2 packages with codecs to play MPG, AVI, WMV & heck alotta more
[08:38] <Uggggg> I just got my scanner working... does anyone here know how to make it higher than 8-bit color?
[08:38] <thread> Why am I having like zero luck trying to get this 20" lcd run at its native 1680x1050? This is the nvidia driver, and I've got the sync ranges specified correctly and tried all sorts of combinations of the edid ignoring directives.
[08:38] <oo7> LordLimecat, i got confused between you and K3nto  :)  no worries
[08:38] <thread> it just says "No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing."
[08:38] <LordLimecat> lol
[08:38] <TheVault> installed over 90+
[08:38] <kendrick> i'm having a hell of a time finding a solution for this. i'm running kubuntu 6.10 with KDE 3.5.6, Xorg 7.1.1 and Linux kernel 2.6.17 on an AMD sempron with an Nvidia GeForce FX5200.  when KDE's screensaver comes on and I leave it for a while, I come back and Xorg is taking 100% of my CPU and X becomes unusable. mouse moves, but if I dare click or type, things stop. usually kill with Alt+SysReq+K.
[08:39] <thread> and the highest I can get it to go is 1280x1024
[08:39] <oo7> thread, you need ModeLines
[08:39] <will> If X chrashes all I have to do is restart my computer, right?
[08:39] <LordLimecat> thread--is it possible its an issue with refresh rate? like an invalid refresh assiociated with that rez?
[08:39] <oo7> thread, by any chance is it the dell fpw 2005?
[08:39] <will> Or is it screwed and needs to be reinstalled?
[08:39] <kendrick> a friend happened to mention his Ubuntu (I think he uses XFCE but maybe Gnome) has a similar problem on some laptop. totally different hardware (gfx, cpu).
[08:39] <will> Crashes.*
[08:39] <LordLimecat> will--yes, as long as you havent been uninstalling drivers or messing with the xorg.conf
[08:39] <FurryNemesis> will, does it go back to the login screen
[08:39] <thread> oo7: I tried a modeline, but it didn't seem to help
[08:39] <K3nto> brb i might crash
[08:39] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: what do you mean installed over 90+-
[08:39] <oo7> it must have been the wrong modeline
[08:39] <TheVault> lemme find it real quick
[08:40] <oo7> you definetly need a modeline for that resolution
[08:40] <kendrick> i've seen others with similar issues on forums, but never find solutions.
[08:40] <will> LordLimecat, So I don't have to worry about a renistall if I've been playing with kcontrol?
[08:40] <thread> oo7: it's a samsung syncmaster 205BW, which is likely The Same as the dell screen since dell uses samsung screens sometimes
[08:40] <will> FurryNemesis, I think so.
[08:40] <kendrick> http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15881/KDE-Xorg-CPU-usage-increases-until-locks-X.html for example :(
[08:40] <thread> oo7: can you help me find the modeline?
[08:40] <oo7> ya
[08:40] <thread> LordLimecat: yea like I say, I have the sync rates in the xorg.conf
[08:40] <oo7> lemme smoke some medicine first :)
[08:40] <thread> oo7: hah of course :)
[08:40] <LordLimecat> dunno, im not gonna be able to help
[08:40] <LordLimecat> i dont even know what modelines is :(
[08:41] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: I installed the GSTREAMER
[08:41] <LordLimecat> will--lemme see what kcontrol is
[08:41] <oo7> i'll help you, /msg me
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: you likely need libdvdcss2
[08:41] <TheVault> how would I acquire that?
[08:41] <will> LordLimecat, KDE Control panel.
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> hold on.
[08:41] <LordLimecat> will, it doesnt look like you could have done annythin too drastic
[08:41] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: how would i acquire that?
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: hang on a sec, i'm looking
[08:42] <LordLimecat> the only time a restart hosed me was when i didnt follow directions, uninstalled my nvidia drivers, messed up my xorg.conf, and issued the command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[08:42] <LordLimecat> THAT causes issues :D
[08:42] <Slart> ah.. indygunfreak.. the guy that tried to dcc chat everyone a while back =)
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: come on, cut me some slack.
[08:42] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Alrighty. Someone was telling me that they disable dvd playback on ubuntu for security reasons, but you manually gotta enable it, someone told me that a few days ago
[08:42] <will> LordLimecat, So if X crashes it'll just log me out?
[08:42] <kendrick> hrm, gotta go make breakfast. mention my nick in your response so i can find it in the traffic later :)
[08:42] <kendrick> thx
[08:42] <LordLimecat> how has x been crashing
[08:43] <Mythmon> is "sudo bash" to get a root command line considered a bad thing? (not a root command line, but this particular way)
[08:43] <K3nt1> yep i crashed
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, its not really security reasons, its legal reasons.. its questionable wether you hve the right to decrypt a DVD you own... go figure
[08:43] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: no problem... slack cut =)
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[08:43] <will> LordLimecat, I just see a black screen and a few seconds later I go to login.
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault:     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[08:43] <gaspipe1> hey....
[08:43] <TheVault> Thanks
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: i got put in the penalty box for 2 days over that..lol
[08:43] <K3nt1> will: i get a black sceen with music
[08:43] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak: I don't it's it's questionable, I think it's illegal under the DCMA
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: but Seveasis a forgiving God.. i mean Mod.. and reinstated me.
[08:43] <gaspipe1> does anyone have shockwave running on firefox for ubuntu?
[08:44] <LordLimecat> personally, i think youd be fine, if the files were messed up, i dont think x would start
[08:44] <K3nt1> will: it just stays black
[08:44] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: what happened? you got a virus or something?
[08:44] <will> K3nt1, My speakers are off right now. :P
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: well, let me rephrase.. its stupid that its illegal, when you own it.
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: i was stupid, didn't know what DCC was, so i tried it,
[08:44] <xf00f> gaspipe - I don't believe you can get shockwave on linux, just flash
[08:44] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak: You're preaching to the choir buddy =)
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> stupidity is the only reason i can give...lol
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: lol...
[08:45] <LordLimecat> IndyGunFreak: its not questionable as to whether you have the right to decrypt a dvd--you DO have the right
[08:45] <LordLimecat> the law just doesnt realize it yet
[08:45] <LordLimecat> :)
[08:45] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: ah.. well.. we all have the "what's this.. let's try it"-gene.. or we wouldn't be using linux ;)
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: well let me make a suggestion, DCC isn't one to try..lol
[08:45] <zcat[1] > gaspipe1: You can install wine and the windows firefox, then run shockwave in that. I used to run flash that way before the linux version caught up..
[08:45] <gaspipe1> xfoof
[08:45] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: hehe.. true
[08:47] <gop> is thier a flash ppc version
[08:47] <soundray> gop: no
[08:47] <zyth> gop, gnash
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> gop:  I don't think so.
[08:47] <zyth> !gnash
[08:47] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[08:47] <zyth> there ya go.
[08:47] <gaspipe1> xf00f: u run flash
[08:47] <gop> !gnash
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> gop:  I guess thats your answer
[08:47] <gaspipe1> zcat[1] : dumb Q...if I install wine... do i need to install xp also?
[08:47] <zcat[1] > gaspipe1: not at all
[08:47] <gop> gaspipe1:  nope
[08:47] <gop> that what great about it
[08:47] <soundray> zcat[1] : you don't even need a Windows licence
[08:47] <soundray> zcat[1] : sry, I said that to the wrong guy ;)
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: any luck?
[08:47] <gop> me to
[08:47] <zcat[1] > soundray: according to monkeyboy I need an MS license just to run Linux :(
[08:48] <gaspipe1> zcat[1] : wow...so i can install wine.. then run lets say itunes from my xp (ubuntu and xp pro are on my same HDD <dual boot> )
[08:48] <gop> you could
[08:48] <thread> here's my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/7xVkJy21.html
[08:48] <gop> gaspipe1:  youc an even use vmserver
[08:48] <thread> 1680x1050 refuses to work
[08:48] <dan_> Does anyone know how change play speeds in XMMS? because its playing songs really fast, all the voices are like chipmonks
[08:48] <gop> and run windows xp inside of
[08:48] <thread> with or without the modeline
[08:48] <gop> ubuntu
[08:48] <LordLimecat> gaspipe1: I am able to take the program folder for world of warcraft from windows, COPY the folder, and run it directly from linux
[08:48] <LordLimecat> no install'
[08:48] <zcat[1] > gaspipe1: in theory. In practise getting stuff to run under wine is often a pita..
[08:48] <LordLimecat> wine is quite good
[08:48] <gop> !vmware > gaspipe1
[08:48] <gop> itunes under winde runs slow
[08:49] <gop> but say program like ff or mirc it works great
[08:49] <gaspipe1> gop: what do u like wine or vmserver?
[08:49] <LordLimecat> games seem to work decent
[08:49] <gop> gaspipe1:  wine is good
[08:49] <gop> for games
[08:49] <LordLimecat> if yer computers beefy
[08:49] <thread> oo7: YGPM ?
[08:49] <directhex> i don't see the point in running specific applications with free, native equivalents under layers like wine
[08:49] <gop> but vmserver is good for full xp desktop
[08:49] <gop> directhex:  true
[08:49] <billymeter> Personally I think RhythmBox is just as good as iTunes
[08:49] <gaspipe1> can i install wine from apps>add/remove?
[08:49] <gop> gaspipe1:  nope
[08:49] <oo7> i'm a medical marijauna patient, i'm getting medicated
[08:49] <billymeter> Just don't have the access to DRM Tunes in the ITMS
[08:49] <directhex> things like itunes. why bother?
[08:49] <LordLimecat> directhex: World of warcraft has no linux equivalent, nor does mirandaIM
[08:49] <oo7> it takes a couple minutes
[08:49] <gop> use sudo apt-get install wine
[08:49] <hflappy> bah still no friggin luck removing vmware-player anyone have problem with removing it?
[08:50] <LordLimecat> nor do a lot of games
[08:50] <zcat[1] > directhex: there's a free shockwave plugin that works? :)
[08:50] <gaspipe1> billymeter: i been using amarak
[08:50] <gop> !install > gaspipe1
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> hflappy: did it have windows in it, or were you running windows with vmware'd linux?
[08:50] <directhex> LordLimecat, a multi-server im client has no free equivalent?
[08:50] <ZeZu> how can i change a users home directory ?
[08:50] <hflappy> nope
[08:50] <soundray> directhex: sometimes "equivalent" is not equivalent enough, e.g. if you have to collaborate on documents with users on the dark side.
[08:50] <gop> !synpatic gaspipe1
[08:50] <LordLimecat> directhex: not one with as big an addon selection
[08:50] <billymeter> gaspipe1: To install wine, run 'sudo apt-get install wine' at the command line
[08:50] <hflappy> just installed it...configure didn't work had 2 failures and now i can't remove it
[08:50] <hflappy> completely
[08:50] <LordLimecat> kopete is the closest ive seen
[08:50] <xf00f> pretty sure you need a license (or you doid many moons ago when I first used it) - it uses the windows DLLs
[08:50] <LordLimecat> and its slow in irc
[08:50] <oo7> ZeZu, edit /etc/passwd
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> hflappy: i dont' know man, good luck
[08:51] <hflappy> IndyGunFreak: kew kew...thx
[08:51] <gop> use irssi for irc
[08:51] <LordLimecat> only crazy ppl use terminal for internets
[08:51] <LordLimecat> crazy i say
[08:51] <gaspipe1> !paste
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:51] <billymeter> LordLimecat: LYNX FTW
[08:51] <LordLimecat> :(
[08:51] <LordLimecat> *hides*
[08:51] <oo7> i named my cat lynx
[08:51] <dan_> how do i register?
[08:51] <LordLimecat> unless lynx has text based tabs?
[08:52] <billymeter> LordLimecat: Oops, caps. Sorry.
[08:52] <soundray> !register > dan_, read the private msg from ubotu
[08:52] <gaspipe1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8661/
[08:52] <LordLimecat> billymeter: when using FTW, caps are mandatory :D
[08:52] <gaspipe1> wine didn't install
[08:52] <dan_> thank you
[08:52] <billymeter> LordLimecat: I know, I was thinking ahead and held down shift when typing lynx =)
[08:52] <LordLimecat> lol
[08:52] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: is it working
[08:52] <ZeZu> oo7, thanks
[08:52] <billymeter> LordLimecat: I got too excited.
[08:53] <LordLimecat> thats disturbing
[08:53] <LordLimecat> :(
[08:53] <billymeter> lol
[08:53] <LordLimecat> and by the way
[08:53] <LordLimecat> this is gonna get me kicked, or killed, or worse
[08:53] <LordLimecat> but Vi sucks
[08:53] <LordLimecat> seriously
[08:53] <billymeter> !!
[08:53] <LordLimecat> im sorry, it does
[08:53] <billymeter> Heresy.....
[08:53] <soundray> gaspipe1: have you enabled the universe repository?
[08:53] <Mythmon> uhoh... i smell a holy war...
[08:53] <LordLimecat> cant frikkin exit a file without blowing it up by hitting the wrong keyt
[08:53] <gaspipe1> soundray: ahhh not sure
[08:53] <billymeter> LordLimecat: lol
[08:54] <LordLimecat> i have to worry about what each key i press could do :(
[08:54] <LordLimecat> i try to type hello and a nuke launches
[08:54] <soundray> gaspipe1: and make sure you're on i386
[08:54] <gaspipe1> soundray: was that a plug-in for Amorak to play mp3?
[08:54] <LordLimecat> nano FTW
[08:54] <kelsin> LordLimecat: if you want a quick easy "I don't want to do anything but hit arrows and letters" then don't use Vi, simple as that, clearly Vi is not for you
[08:54] <gaspipe1> soundray: I am using 64 bit
[08:54] <LordLimecat> its not :(
[08:54] <LordLimecat> thats why god made guis
[08:54] <kelsin> doesn't mean Vi sucks, it means you like Guis
[08:54] <soundray> gaspipe1: sorry, no wine on amd64 unless you jump through some extra hoops
[08:55] <billymeter> I'm wearing a shirt that says "fsck!"
[08:55] <LordLimecat> well, anyone who suggests a noob use vi to edit fstab is evil
[08:55] <soundray> gaspipe1: there are instructions on the forums
[08:55] <Mythmon> speaking of wine, how hard is it to get Photoshop CS2/CS3 Beta to work on Wine?
[08:55] <billymeter> LordLimecat: I'll agree with that
[08:55] <kelsin> LordLimecat: agreed as well
[08:55] <gaspipe1> soundray: ok... right after I installed ubuntu 64 I read not to install that b/c it isn't supported...just my luck
[08:55] <obelix> Where does 'scantv' save it's config file?
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: how many people do you think know what that shirt means?
[08:55] <gaspipe1> soundray: thanks though...
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: scantv?.. never heard of it.
[08:55] <obelix> haha :)
[08:56] <soundray> gaspipe1: I think the forums author you want to look for is called Kilz
[08:56] <billymeter> IndyGunFreak: Probably not many. They all think it's the other "f" word in code.
[08:56] <obelix> IndyGunFreak: it should output a xawtv config file
[08:56] <l337h4l> Anyone had problems with the Nautilus DVD burning since updates in Feisty yesterday
[08:56] <Msword> quick question: what should i format my drive for(I'm dual booting windows) for ubuntu?
[08:56] <gaspipe1> soundray: once Fiesty Fawn comes out can I upgrade that to i386 w/o doing a reformat and reinstall?
[08:56] <ubuntudan> anyone know how to fix xmms when the play speed is all messed up, songs play super fast for me >.<
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: hmm
[08:56] <najzlijiji> hey ppl i need some help about repositories.. PM me if u can help me
[08:56] <d-s-d> hi
[08:56] <soundray> l337h4l: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> billymeter: yeah, you're likely right
[08:56] <l337h4l> ty
[08:56] <LordLimecat> from the Vi lovers in here, i take it at least 2 of you (billy, kitche) are decently versed in linux?
[08:56] <soundray> gaspipe1: first of all, going to i386 is a downgrade IMO ;)
[08:56] <gaspipe1> is there an easy way to nistall flash?
[08:56] <LordLimecat> i have an issue noones been able to answer, and i dunno if its an issue
[08:56] <CBunny> how do i boot the live cd text mode?
[08:57] <billymeter> LordLimecat: Not really. I'm still pretty much a n00b.
[08:57] <gaspipe1> soundray: u use 64?
[08:57] <soundray> gaspipe1: and second, no, you can't -- do a fresh install instead.
[08:57] <LordLimecat> @ boot: PCI: cannot allocate region 3 of...........
[08:57] <Msword> what should i format my drive for ubuntu?
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: can you just open a terminal and type "scantv" no quotes?
[08:57] <LordLimecat> then the load screen appears
[08:57] <soundray> gaspipe1: I do, on five cores at this time ;)
[08:57] <obelix> yup
[08:57] <d-s-d> i tried to create a cron-job that starts mplayer. But mplayer will only play for a second or so and then exits... why is that?
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> obelix: and what happens?
[08:57] <ubuntudan> XMMS Play speed? Anyone? Help? Pretty Please?
[08:57] <lillpelle> http://hurf.mine.nu/micke/irctex/result-5820.png (58 x 46) 249 bytes
[08:57] <obelix> it scans
[08:57] <gaspipe1> soundray:  so u don't use wine?
[08:57] <soundray> gaspipe1: no need
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntudan: ? whats wrong with it.. to slow, to fast, what/
[08:57] <TridenT_Boy3555> Help...
[08:58] <Msword> should i use ext3 for ubuntu?
[08:58] <ubuntudan> IndyGunFreak, Too fast, voices are all high pitched and everything is like 1 and a half times faster id say
[08:58] <Hirvinen> Msword: ReiserFS or Ext3 should be good.
[08:58] <soundray> !clone > gaspipe1, this will get you up and running quicker if you do decide to reinstall
[08:58] <soundray> Msword: short answer or long answer?
[08:58] <gaspipe1> soundray: ok....is there something u use?
[08:58] <Msword> what do you recomend using
[08:58] <LordLimecat> !clone > LordLimecat
[08:58] <Msword> doesn't matter on length
[08:58] <soundray> Msword: short answer is yes
[08:58] <gaspipe1> !clone
[08:58] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[08:58] <xf00f> to be fair vi is an abomination - it should at least have a line of text on screen to tell you how to enter commands. As it is you end up deleting/overwriting half your menu.lst trying to insert a line :/
[08:58] <billymeter> LordLimecat: Probably the most advanced Linux thing I've done has been getting the Broadcom driver to work in Slackware.
[08:58] <soundray> !goodbotuse | gaspipe1
[08:58] <ubotu> gaspipe1: goodbotuse is please do "!factoid > user" see here: for more details:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/goodbotuse
[08:58] <LordLimecat> THANK you, xf00f
[08:59] <Msword> would using Gnome Partition Editor work well?
[08:59] <Stormx2> Yo. w32codecs lets media player play only audio of .rm files. How can I get it to play video also?
[08:59] <LordLimecat> whurs the "current mode" displayed?
[08:59] <LordLimecat> wheres the "safe to type" light
[08:59] <soundray> gaspipe1: what do you mean by "is there something u use?"?
[08:59] <sdac221x_> hi, i haven't been able to find a link on showing how to edit the default time in the OS selection grub menu on boot.  can someone point me somewhere or tell me how to do this safely.. thanks
[08:59] <ubuntudan> IndyGunFreak, Dont suppose u got a fix for that?
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntudan: hmm i have no idea what would cause that... have ou tried Beep Media Player?.. its very similar to Xmms?
[08:59] <gaspipe1> soundray: i wasn't gett'n the info when u typed !clone > gaspipe1
[08:59] <Msword> soundray, is Gnome Partition Editor a good program for partitioning?
[08:59] <LordLimecat> sdac221x_: one second
[08:59] <d-s-d> can someone help me?
[08:59] <kitche> xf00f: you probably never have used vi before have you :) it's much harder then vim lol
[08:59] <kelsin> LordLimecat: when I use vim I get a "INSERT" line when I'm in insert mode...
[09:00] <LordLimecat> i knwo what yer talking about
[09:00] <ubuntudan> IndyGunFreak, i think i just messed up a setting, clicked something accidently, this has happend before a loong time ago, cant remember how to fix though
[09:00] <najzlijiji> hey can somebody tell me how to delete mistyped repository in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:00] <soundray> sdac221x_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <K3nto> LordLimecat: how can i change from "froce GLX" to anything else in beryl without starting it? i changed it to that to experiment and now when i start beryl, everything freezes
[09:00] <LordLimecat> kelsin: thats not as clear as it could be -_-
[09:00] <xf00f> used vi before we had things like X terminals at uni. hated it
[09:00] <soundray> gaspipe1: it's in your private messages
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntudan: sorry, i went through the settings, can't find anything that would make it do that
[09:00] <soundray> Msword: yes
[09:00] <Msword> k ty
[09:00] <ubuntudan> IndyGunFreak, lol yeah its messed up hehe
[09:00] <soundray> Msword: but use it from a live CD
[09:00] <oo7> Msword, also see cfdisk from the cli
[09:00] <ubuntudan> anyone know how to fix xmms when the play speed is all messed up, songs play super fast for me anyone know what to do for that?
[09:01] <billymeter> Is SLI supported in the nVidia driver?
[09:01] <kelsin> LordLimecat: again then Vi is not for you guys, use a gui program, there are PLENTY, but complaining about Vi using features that make it as good as it is isn't helping
[09:01] <sdac221x_> soundray:  i don't have a /boot  directory on my system
[09:01] <gaspipe1> soundray: holy crap....i didn't even see that.....this is a first lol
[09:01] <Stormx2> w32codecs lets media player play only audio of .rm files. How can I get it to play video also?
[09:01] <oo7> sdac221x_, sudo mount /boot
[09:01] <soundray> sdac221x_: are you on ubuntu?
[09:01] <LordLimecat> sdac221x_:  i found it for you
[09:01] <LordLimecat> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[09:01] <LordLimecat> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:02] <sdac221x_> soundray: i am on xubuntu but shouldnt make diff right ?
[09:02] <gaspipe1> soundray: alright thanks again!!
[09:02] <soundray> sdac221x_: indeed, it shouldn't
[09:02] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, when I put any ubuntu CD in my drive and reboot my computer, the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with the menus.  Well, my keyboard and mouse both stop functioning.  Any idea why?
[09:02] <LordLimecat> kelsin: vi jibes are partly in jest, since so many ppl are fanatical about it
[09:02] <ubuntudan> anyone know how to fix xmms when the play speed is all messed up, songs play super fast for me anyone know what to do for that?
[09:02] <sdac221x_> oh hold on
[09:02] <LordLimecat> i realize for gurus, its probably pretty coolk
[09:02] <sdac221x_> yes found it
[09:02] <LordLimecat> :)
[09:03] <soundray> !repeat > ubuntudan
[09:03] <najzlijiji> is there anyone able to help me here???
[09:03] <LordLimecat> najzlijiji: whats the issue?
[09:03] <soundray> sdac221x_: it's at the top of the file, the timeout option
[09:03] <ubuntudan> Point taken lol
[09:03] <billymeter> Does anyone else have an issue with the sound not working with Quake III Arena or Enemy Territory?
[09:03] <LordLimecat> ubuntudan: if noone answers, google  or ubuntuguide.com are good resources....id get used to using them
[09:04] <sdac221x_> is it safe to uncomment the "# Pretty colours" entry in grub file ?
[09:04] <will> What's KDE?
[09:04] <sdac221x_> i mean uncomment #color cyan/blue white/blue
[09:04] <najzlijiji> i have mistyped wrong repository and then it chrashed .. so i removed all of reps... and yet that one that was bugging me is still there.. in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <soundray> ubuntudan: not to pretend I know how to help you, but have you tried another player, like mpg321 (command line)
[09:04] <kelsin> billymeter: make sure you have the alsa-oss packages installed (I'm not sure if this is it)
[09:04] <ubuntudan> LordLimecat, lol been all over every doc i could find, this was my last hope hehe
[09:04] <will> !KDE
[09:04] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[09:04] <billymeter> kelsin: Thanks, I'll check that
[09:04] <LordLimecat> ubuntudan: what...exactly is happening?
[09:04] <najzlijiji> so now i have to remove that and put back thos default
[09:04] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: are you back?
[09:04] <ubuntudan> soundray, noper, dont know how to do that
[09:04] <Stormx2> will: please /msg ubotu
[09:04] <kelsin> billymeter: those games might still use OSS, not also, installing alsa-oss (I thinkt hat's the name) will add the oss-emulation with alsa
[09:05] <billymeter> kelsin: Alright, just installed that package, I'll test it out now.
[09:05] <ubuntudan> LordLimecat, My songs started playing really fast, like the play speed was increased, high pitched voices and stuff, happend a while ago cant remember how i fixed it though
[09:05] <LordLimecat> kelsin: isnt aoss installed by default?
[09:05] <soundray> ubuntudan: install mpg321 with your favourite package manager and run 'mpg321 filename.mp3'
[09:05] <oo7> ubuntudan, mess with the input/output in the xmms preferences, also check out amarok as an alternative
[09:05] <korzen> siema
[09:05] <st0n3cutt3r> if anyone can help me with these instructions:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29   I would be very grateful
[09:05] <kelsin> LordLimecat: obviously for him it wasn't, since he just installed it
[09:06] <LordLimecat> oh :|
[09:06] <kelsin> LordLimecat: I'm unsure whether in different ubuntu releases it is already installed. If the default Ubuntu desktop doesn't have any apps that use OSS, I bet they would remove it
[09:06] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Alright, its working
[09:07] <LordLimecat> kelsin: i dont remember SUCCESSFULLY installing alsa or aoss, but when a doc suggested i use it for firefox to fix flash sound, it was there and worked
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: ok.. cool.  if your DVD playback is real choppy...   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[09:07] <LordLimecat> im usin 6.10, maybe its new
[09:07] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, just a lil choppy
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: you prolly need to enable DMA
[09:07] <K3nto> how can i change the rendering for beryl w/o starting it? right now it is at GLX or something and i need it back to Nvidia. every time i start beryl it freezes.
[09:07] <LordLimecat> st0n3cutt3r: what do you need help withj
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> folow the instructions at that link i just sent.
[09:08] <billymeter> kelsin: Okay, I get a Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ error when running it now
[09:08] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Thanks for helping me out. Anyway I can make Xine Movie Player my default DVD player of choice? I got another movie player that pops up and I don't want that player
[09:08] <ubuntudan> LordLimecat, Looking at the time on XMMS, the seconds are going by faster then they should, its going 2 seconds for every REAL second
[09:08] <hflappy> has anyone had a prob wit vmware-player and can't uninstall it?  dpkg is complaining bout sum --configure prob or sumtin
[09:08] <K3nto> LordLimecat: do you know?
[09:09] <|Jason8|> When I put any ubuntu CD in my drive and reboot my computer, the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with the menus.  Well, my keyboard and mouse both stop functioning.  Any idea why?
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: i know there's a way to do that, just not sure how... Xine rocks by the way
[09:09] <st0n3cutt3r> LordLimecat: I just need to know anything that I need to download for it to work, and where to get those things, because I have no internet access with ubuntu at all right now
[09:09] <mbac> is there a decent graphic boot editor?
[09:09] <hflappy> so how do i get it to remove completely from aptitude so it don't go thru the vmware-player's --configure process
[09:09] <colbert> Hello, how can I set VLC to play a certain movie file like .mpg or .avi ??
[09:09] <oo7> K3nto, start beryl-manager only?
[09:09] <LordLimecat> K3nto: no, i dont , but i think theres a relationship between glx and nvidia?
[09:09] <K3nto> yeah
[09:09] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Then I picked it out myself personally
[09:09] <LordLimecat> ie, one and the same?
[09:09] <K3nto> and no bery
[09:09] <TheVault> :)
[09:09] <K3nto> not
[09:09] <LordLimecat> oh, you want to get rid of beryl for now
[09:09] <kelsin> billymeter: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Quake%203%20Arena&start=10
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, i think thats what i usually do, cuz it usually opens Totem for me, and I prefer VLC
[09:09] <mbac> i mean, i'm impulsively just going to edit the grub config with vi but someone told me last night that these gee whiz graphical tools can do a lot these days
[09:09] <LordLimecat> rightclick the emerald, go to window manager, and select metacity
[09:10] <oo7> beryl-manager --no-force-window-manager --no-force-decorator
[09:10] <oo7> maybe
[09:10] <billymeter> kelsin: Thanks for the link
[09:10] <kelsin> billymeter: people suggest stuff on that page to solve that error (next time try googling the error :))
[09:10] <up365> colbert, open the file and change the "open with" to VLC
[09:10] <TheVault> Yeah, that Totem kinda is a lame player(no offense to the creator, sorry)
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: I don't care for it either, VLC is awesome.
[09:10] <TheVault> Yeah, VLC is another good one
[09:10] <TheVault> Use it on windows(oh god, he said windows) and its a excellent player
[09:11] <kelsin> Totem depends on your gstreamer plugins, once you install a bunch (esp from multiverse and other reps) it's fine
[09:11] <LordLimecat> TheVault: the most delicious part is multicasting+web client
[09:11] <Kuba> Gnu C                  4.1.2
[09:11] <Kuba> Gnu make               3.81
[09:11] <Kuba> binutils               2.17
[09:11] <Kuba> util-linux             2.12r
[09:11] <Kuba> mount                  2.12r
[09:11] <Kuba> module-init-tools      3.2.2
[09:11] <K3nto> oo7: thanks that worked
[09:11] <colbert> up365: Yes, but I must do that everytime, I want to make VLC the default player.. if I double click on the movie it always opens with Totem player :( :(
[09:11] <Kuba> e2fsprogs              1.39
[09:11] <Kuba> reiserfsprogs          3.6.19
[09:11] <Kuba> PPP                    2.4.4
[09:11] <LordLimecat> kuba
[09:11] <argetlam> I'm having problems with a new wireless card and ubuntu
[09:11] <Kuba> Linux C Library        > libc.2.4
[09:11] <kelsin> !pastebin > Kuba
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: lol, i think my DVD player just crapped out on me...lol
[09:11] <Kuba> Dynamic linker (ldd)   2.4
[09:11] <oo7> np
[09:11] <Kuba> Procps                 3.2.7
[09:11] <K3nto> !pastebin | Kuba
[09:11] <Kuba> Net-tools              1.60
[09:11] <ubotu> Kuba: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:11] <TheVault> lol
[09:11] <Kuba> Console-tools          0.2.3
[09:11] <LordLimecat> Kuba!
[09:11] <Kuba> Sh-utils               5.96
[09:11] <Kuba> udev                   093
[09:11] <LordLimecat> -_-
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: it started making a wierd noise yesterday,
[09:11] <oo7> !kb
[09:11] <ubotu> While it is common in the computing field to consider 1kB (one kilobyte) = 1024B (1024 bytes), the correct equation, according to standard IEEE 1541, is 1kB = 1000B. On the other hand, 1KiB (one kibibyte) = 1024B  -  Same goes for all multiples
[09:11] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Says DMA can be dangerious
[09:11] <Kuba> ok okj:)
[09:11] <Kuba> sory:)
[09:11] <LordLimecat> lol
[09:11] <up365> colbert, I know I'd like to change default player also
[09:11] <happyface0> how can I install this in just terminal? http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:11] <Kuba> are that pockets enough to compile kernel?
[09:12] <mbac> apparantly the gnome system tool is supposed to have a boot editor
[09:12] <mbac> whoa
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: i dont know what danger it poses, but i've always enabled it w/o issue(note.. i think my DVD drive is dead..lol)
[09:12] <argetlam> I looked in the supported list on the wiki says it works out of the box but is not supported in Installed system
[09:12] <Kuba> are that pockets enough to compile kernel??
[09:12] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Maybe DMA got hungry lol
[09:12] <argetlam> Do I have hope of getting it to work or do I need a different card
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> maybe
[09:12] <Halcy0n> Can anyone tell me where apt/synaptic would get its HTTP proxy settings?  Apparently I have an http proxy set somewhere and synaptic keeps trying to use it when I launch it.
[09:12] <st0n3cutt3r> LordLimecat: can you help me with it?
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: like i siad, it was making a wierd noise last night, so its prolly time for a new one

[09:13] <LordLimecat> st0n3cutt3r: ....lemme check
[09:13] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yeah maybe, but mines fairly new, bought it last year
[09:13] <LordLimecat> do you know how to use the terminal?
[09:13] <Kuba> re that pockets enough to compile kernel?
[09:13] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Best of all mine is portable
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: now that is good.
[09:13] <st0n3cutt3r> LordLimecat: I think for the most part all I think I need to get files for is step 2
[09:13] <DemisM> when you first load ubuntu you get the loading bar with ubuntu on it is there anyway to change or get rid of this?
[09:13] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Man ubuntu players DVDs better than on Windows
[09:14] <TheVault> *plays dvds better than Windows
[09:14] <Shaba1> hello all
[09:14] <LordLimecat> you should be able to copy-paste those commands into the terminal
[09:14] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, i really like VLC...
[09:14] <LordLimecat> apt-get will automagically grab them for you
[09:14] <TheVault> I am on a Pentium 3 Computer with 256mb of ram and a 20gig HD and my computer is running super fast
[09:14] <sherdog88> hi, how can I install ubuntu from hdd ? i don't have cdrom. only iso image
[09:14] <oo7> Halcy0n, Open Synaptic, Settings > Preferences > Network
[09:15] <TheVault> On windows, the playback skips badly
[09:15] <colbert> up365:  Okay what we do is right-click the media file, go to Properties and then "open with" and select our player from the list, it will then make it default for all files of that type
[09:15] <Halcy0n> oo7: yea, it wasn't set in there.  I finally found it.  It was buried in gconf.
[09:15] <TheVault> I'm a windows guy(oh man, he said windows again) and I'm loving Ubuntu already :)
[09:15] <recon39> could someone help me with adding permissions to a dvd player
[09:15] <bjv> does the 6.06 CD include gparted?
[09:15] <IndyGunFreak>  TheVaultthe key is, when you get frustrated, not to give up.. the answers are there, you just gotta find them
[09:15] <Shaba1> ok folks
[09:15] <argetlam> I'm having problems with a new wireless card (Belkin F5D7000 ver 5100) and ubuntu
[09:16] <argetlam> I looked in the supported list on the wiki says it works out of the box but is not supported in Installed system
[09:16] <TheVault> *Thevault bows down to Linux but bill gates gives him an evil stare*
[09:16] <Shaba1> anyone here have any knowlege of ipcop
[09:16] <cogeno> Kind of
[09:16] <Shaba1> becasue on that channel no on is answering
[09:16] <yell0w> bjv, yes
[09:16] <argetlam> Do I have hope of getting it to work or do I need a different card
[09:16] <billymeter> kelsin: Thanks I got it to work. I did Google it a few days back and I found the echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct"... thing. It didn't work because I didn't have that package installed. Thanks for the help.
[09:16] <LordLimecat> the thing about windows, its not customizeable, so ppl like me who like to explore their system have nothin new to do after the first 6 months with xp
[09:16] <techie> Anyone! How do I make my totem movieplayer read my cdrom?
[09:16] <TheVault> *TheVault slaps bill gates, and bows down once again to linux*
[09:16] <kelsin> billymeter: np
[09:16] <bjv> yell0w: ok. i think i might just reboot then. :o
[09:16] <LordLimecat> finding new software for xp thats quality is such a chore
[09:16] <Eclipse75> hello world
[09:16] <recon39> does anyone know how to add permissions to a dvd player on mythtv
[09:16] <TheVault> LordLimeCat: You got that right
[09:17] <yell0w> bjv, don't do anything drastic, hehe
[09:17] <LordLimecat> however, utorrent, and mirandaIM ARE money :D'
[09:17] <techie> Everytime i try to play cdrom dvd etcc Totem tell me "No uri to read the cdrom?
[09:17] <up365> colbert, thanks I'll try that
[09:17] <LordLimecat> vlc too, but thats linux's first :D
[09:17] <rlevitin> !ati
[09:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <TheVault> techie: thats why just happend to me
[09:17] <bjv> yell0w: im just trying to resize this fat32 part
[09:17] <colbert> up365: np, it's working perfect for me :)
[09:17] <Coffeegrindah> has anyone in here played with the persistant live / USB drive stuff?
[09:17] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak helped me out on that problem
[09:17] <whieimhere> I was wondering if by using either XFCE or Enlightenment 17 is there a decrease in the system resource usage in comparison to say the GNOME - Metacity combo?
[09:17] <_MaPuChE_> can anyone help me... im havin trouble with the instalation of ubuntu 6.10
[09:17] <recon39> I am using gxine on mythtv and it dont see the dvd
[09:17] <dg1> What's up _MaPuChE_?
explain.... did you solve the problem, if so how?
[09:18] <_MaPuChE_> cant install
[09:18] <whieimhere> !dvd
[09:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:18] <joshjosh> _MaPuChE_ What's it saying?
[09:18] <elomak> hi all !
[09:18] <dg1> _MaPuChE_: why not?
[09:18] <oo7> whieimhere, definetly
[09:18] <_MaPuChE_> nor run live cd
[09:18] <ucordes> how can i get a square root symbol in openoffice.org writer that comes with ubuntu?
[09:18] <recon39> needod thanks
[09:18] <K3nto> LordLimecat: 6 sides now!
[09:18] <TheVault> techie: Yeah, I went here and followed these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[09:18] <happyface0> How can I install a .deb package from http in terminal?
[09:18] <_MaPuChE_> i get to the first raphical menu
[09:18] <linux_kid> How do I get my Lexmark X2250 Printer to work on my PC?  (the printer is connected to a networked windows xp pc with all the nessscery drivers installed)
[09:18] <whieimhere> I really liked Enlightenment 17 oo7 is that an increase or decrease?
[09:18] <DemisM> how do I add some environment variable so that when gdm starts it loads it?
[09:18] <oo7> decrease
[09:18] <joshjosh> _MaPuChE_ can you get to the "Start of Install Ubuntu" screen?
[09:19] <dg1> _MaPuChE_: To start with, type your problem entirely on one line ;) Helps when there's 1k+ people around.
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: thats a really good FAQ to hang on to, shows how to do just about everything
[09:19] <techie> TheVault... thanks I will give it a try
[09:19] <AJIEXA> what a program i must use to open "flv" file format ?
[09:19] <LordLimecat> linux_kid: I've never done this before, but for lack of anyone else answering, i notice that under places, theres a connect to server option
[09:19] <whieimhere> oo7 and XFCE is an increase?
[09:19] <LordLimecat> you would probably want to "connect to windows share"
[09:19] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here. a friend tried running fglrx + beryl a wee bit too hard and he "lost" (don't ask...) his libGL.so.1 file (and now e.g. amarok won't start); now, libGL.so.1 is a symlink to libGL.so.1.2 (both are gone), and both are in the package libgl1-mesa-glx... but that doesn't want to reinstall, complaining that it's "impossible to create a symlink (/usr/lib/libGL.so.1): no such file or directory" anybody any ideas? apart
[09:19] <rysiek|pl> from obviously copying the file from my system to his...
[09:19] <Chief> @AJIEXA: vlc
[09:19] <LordLimecat> from there, dunno
[09:19] <dimych> Sound doesn't come out after system boot, but all settings in volume controls are correct. After some up/down of sliders (to max position and then back) it starts to work normally. What can be a reason?
[09:19] <linux_kid> LordLimecat, its a windows pc, so it wont show up as a recongnized printer
 you can use VLC
[09:20] <LordLimecat> oh
[09:20] <oo7> gnome would use more memory than XFCE
[09:20] <LordLimecat> sorry then
[09:20] <whieimhere> Aliexa though it wont give you a timeline slider
[09:20] <Mythmon> how difficult is it to get steam games (CS:S, HL2, etc) to work under wine?
[09:20] <TheVault> techie: your welcome. I'm learning things to and whatnot, so its just one step at a time for me
[09:20] <AJIEXA> Chief:  thx but i can't see video
[09:20] <apokryphos> !memory
[09:20] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[09:20] <whieimhere> oo7 and Enlightenment 17 uses more than GNOME?
[09:20] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, I am making a folder in my Google Bookmarks for all these tutorials
[09:20] <dg1> I'm the same TheVault! :)
[09:20] <linux_kid> LordLimecat, you tried
[09:20] <will> Taime1,  where can I get tickets for that widgtres program?
[09:20] <linux_kid> !lexmark
[09:20] <Chief> @AJIEXA: the give mplayer a try
[09:20] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, mine has about 20 sites in it now..lol
[09:20] <_MaPuChE_> ok... this is the problem i put the cd in and boot from it... then a screen apears and i click on run or install ubuntu but when itends loading my monitors says out of range 75Khz 60hz and cant go further
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <will> Widget.*
[09:20] <scooterskin> hello
[09:20] <TheVault> dg1: yuppers. Next thing i'll do is setup my printer
[09:21] <rysiek|pl> anybody?..
[09:21] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: yeah I know what you mean
[09:21] <st0n3cutt3r> can anyone help me understand some instructions for installing a wireless adapter on ubuntu?
[09:21] <Taime1> i dont know, will, im sorry...
[09:21] <joshjosh> _MaPuChe_ press F6 at the boot screen and add noapic nolapic to that line
[09:21] <kelsin> _MaPuChE_: you can use the text install program, it's one of the options from the boot menu, hit f3 or f4 to see what option it is
[09:21] <jussi01> linux_kid, try www.linuxprinting.org
[09:21] <Coffeegrindah> does anyone know what to do with the "ubuntu" user after setting up a persistant live USB stick with a new user?
[09:21] <linux_kid> jussi01 ok
[09:21] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: usb wifi adapter?
[09:21] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: i don't know if this will help you... but what i do, in case links change,e tc, and its something REALLY useful(like how to configure my TV card)
[09:22] <whieimhere> If I want the XFCE desktop what package do I install? I do not want o eliminate the GNOME desktop though
[09:22] <joshjosh> whieimhere: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:22] <st0n3cutt3r> minimec: yes
[09:22] <megafauna> Hi, how do I download a missing library file? What is the terminal command?>
[09:22] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: I have a Canon ip1700 printer, know of any install guides on how to get that running?
[09:22] <_MaPuChE_> ok... ill try... anythin else i should keep in mind?
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: i open the file in Opera, and save it as an .mht file(more or less, a snapshot of the website)... and save those useful .mht's with my backups.. :)
[09:22] <scooterskin> what version would be best to install on a amd 3800 dual core?
[09:22] <st0n3cutt3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[09:22] <Pinnen> which is the most featureistic msn-client for linux?
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: no i really don't, sorry
[09:23] <|Jason8|> Is it possible to load software off of a kubuntu CD onto an ubuntu system?
[09:23] <jussi01> Pinnen, amsn
[09:23] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: plug it in and try iwconfig in a console. You will see if your adapter was recognized.
 Gaim (IMO)
[09:23] <Chief> does somebody know, how to add a menu section to grub, which will do a fsck on my /
[09:23] <_MaPuChE_> ok thx for the help
[09:23] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Alrighty, i'll see what I can come up with
[09:23] <whieimhere> JoshJosh Thank you
[09:23] <st0n3cutt3r> i tried that and it was, but it failed to identify a network
[09:23] <Flannel> |Jason8|: You mean use the Kubuntu CD as a repository?  Is it an Alternate CD?
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: printer support and wireless support, might be two of Linux's bigger drawbacks.
[09:23] <jussi01> |Jason8|, yes
[09:23] <Pinnen> jussi01: Coffeegrindah: ok, tnx.. will try them out later then :)
[09:23] <|Jason8|> That's possible?
[09:23] <|Jason8|> Wicked.
[09:23] <joshjosh> wheimhere: When you restart x you'll have to click settings and choose your desktop from there
[09:23] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, I had a nightmare with my Broadcom 43xx on my laptop(but got it working)
[09:24] <Flannel> |Jason8|: Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same distro, just with different WMs
[09:24] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: yeah, i'm scared to try wireless just yet...like is aid yesterda, i spent 17hrs on dual monitors..lol
[09:24] <whieimhere> joshjosh Thanks
[09:24] <joshjosh> no prob
[09:24] <Flannel> Chief: you want to touch /forcefsck then reboot
[09:24] <oo7> fear not, a unified wireless subsystem went into the mm kernel recently, so linux may use it soon
[09:24] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Wow
[09:24] <oo7> s/linux/linus
[09:24] <joshjosh> indygunfreak: It's not too hard. I have the horrid dell 1390 card and I got it working in about an hour...
[09:24] <Uggggg> I finally got my scanner working
[09:24] <TheVault> oo7: That sounds like good news about wireless :D
[09:24] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: here's the crappy part, i had it set up in an hour, ...
[09:24] <linux_kid> How do i find out what PCL version my printer uses?
[09:25] <Uggggg> I had to extract firmware from the windows driver to do it
[09:25] <Uggggg> LOL
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> i just couldn't get it set up like I wanted it set up.
[09:25] <|Jason8|> Flannel, can I upgrade ubuntu breezy with kubuntu dapper?  I really like KDE
[09:25] <joshjosh> indygunfreak: But ActuallyI could've done it in 15 minutes if i would've just restarted after modprobe ndiswrapper hah
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> i hosed my xorg.conf at leat 60x..lol
[09:25] <Chief> @Flannel: thx
[09:25] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: I know what your saying.
[09:25] <jussi01> linux_kid, which printer is it?
[09:25] <joshjosh> jason8: Update normally then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <oo7> linux_kid, linuxprinting.org!
[09:25] <linux_kid> jussi01, lexmark x2250
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> joshjosh: i had it set up in no time, it was getting it set how i wanted it, and i kept screwing up xorg.conf..lol
[09:25] <linux_kid> oo7 they called it a paperweight
[09:25] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: ok. In gnome you can configure your device in the network settings in the settings menu.
[09:26] <Flannel> |Jason8|: If you don't want ubuntu, yeah.  You'll want to remove ubuntu, install kubuntu, then upgrade.  Or remove ubuntu, upgrade, then install kubuntu.  And, this only works with the Altenrate CD, Desktop CD can't be used as a repository
[09:26] <linux_kid> oo7, but i still need it to work
[09:26] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: My laptop is my baby, I do all my linux testing on my desktop, and when I feel i have mastered everything or enough to call it my primary OS, then I will
[09:26] <joshjosh> indygunfreak: I gotcha on that. I keep screwing my xorg.conf up trying to get my resolution correct
[09:26] <prepuzio> good evening. getting crazy with wpasupplicant. works very well hand launched but for some reason does not start automatically. /etc/default/wpasupplicant has the ENABLED=1 and OPTIONS="-i ath0 -D madwifi -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B" lines. Any ideas please please please ????
[09:26] <oo7> shitty
[09:26] <jussi01> linux_kid, it probably is then
[09:26] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: There is also a network-manager-applet for the taskbar.
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> joshjosh: yeah, fortunately, i've always been a backup freak, so even if i had to erase and reinstall, i'm almost always ready
[09:26] <linux_kid> jussi01, but i still need it, and a while ago someone told me it supported pcl
[09:26] <joshjosh> indygunfreak: HAh. YOu have better habits than me. I'm a loose cannon on this thing
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> joshjosh: lol
[09:27] <joshjosh> st0n3cutt3r: Have you been in here all night?
[09:27] <TheVault> joshjosh: patients has its rewards
[09:27] <TheVault> joshjosh: I would know
[09:27] <LordLimecat> er....i just installed mythTV, and its askin gor the mysql password?
[09:27] <|Jason8|> Flannel, what's the difference between the Alternate CD and the Desktop CD?  I just have one CD, I assume that's the desktop CD
[09:27] <LordLimecat> i do not recall setting one
[09:27] <joshjosh> TheVault: Yeah. I need to learn that haha
[09:27] <darkcommon> Its my mainboard "MSI K8MM3" compatible with Beryl or XGL/Compiz
[09:28] <kelsin> |Jason8|: the easiest way to get kbuntu, is like the first response said, upgrade to ubuntu dapper the normal way, and then install the kubuntu-desktop packages
[09:28] <Coffeegrindah> how would I go about adding a USB drive as a bootable option for my local install of GRUB, that is, I've got GRUB On my ThumbDrive, I just need my local install to point to a boot record on my usb drive
[09:28] <prepuzio> why does the wpasupplicant package does NOT install an /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant script ???
[09:28] <Flannel> |Jason8|: the Desktop CD is the liveCD, it's just a disk image (and that's how it installs, by copying the image), the Alternate CD is the textmode installer, it installs by installing all the packages from it's local repository (on the CD)
[09:28] <TheVault> joshjosh: lol. When I was setting up wireless(using the live cd on my laptop) boy I was cussing left and right at it cause it would not work. Then finally, I used a differ method and it worked
[09:28] <oo7> LordLimecat, you'll probaby want to get familar with mysql, and an easy way is to install apache+php+phpmyadmin, phpmyadmin being a web interface for creating the database, creating users, setting permissions to local users only, etc...you'll probably want apache for other things on mythtv (ie, mythweb)
[09:28] <|Jason8|> Okay, tahnks a lot
[09:28] <darkcommon> Flannel the ALTERNATE is an CD for update ubuntu, nostle
[09:29] <joshjosh> TheVault: Same here. I had that with sabayon 3.26...Then I full installed, did everything, got mad it didn't work...restarted it and everything was fine.
[09:29] <Flannel> darkcommon: er... What?
[09:29] <joshjosh> TheVault: Sabayon is a hog though, so I switched to ubuntu yet again
[09:29] <oo7> LordLimecat, but if you didn't set one, i bet you have local access without a password, so username = root, password is just blank/null
[09:29] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: well, i figured out my DVD problem wasn't my DVD player at all, when I tried MythTV, it seems it screwed up my Codecs.. i just re-installed them, and now its working
[09:29] <BrendanM> Wireless support is probably the single biggest shortcoming of Linux
[09:29] <darkcommon> its an CD for update Ubuntu. mostly
[09:29] <LordLimecat> alright
[09:29] <TheVault> joshjosh: I'm only good in Ubuntu
[09:29] <IndyGunFreak> drive is still clicking though, so its on its way to the pc graveyard
[09:29] <LordLimecat> yea, sigh, ill have to learn apache :(
[09:29] <Flannel> darkcommon: no it's not.  It's an install CD, and can be used to upgrade.
[09:29] <prepuzio> ok guys see that my wpasupplicant problems are too tough for you 8-) 8-) good night then !
[09:29] <TheVault> joshjosh: Kubuntu is good but I know where most things are at in Ubuntu
[09:29] <LordLimecat> dont look forward to it, websites just never got my fancy :(
[09:29] <con-man> IndyGunFreak: clicking hard drive? thats never good
[09:30] <eck> LordLimecat: apache is pretty sanely configured, it shouldn't be too hard
[09:30] <darkcommon> its best to use the Desktop disc to install P
[09:30] <oo7> just install apache, there's not much to configure unless you want a custom setup
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> con-man: clicking dvd drive actually... just as bad..lol
[09:30] <globe> Has anybody any experience with NFS?
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> con-man: i dont' mess with clicking hard drives, i jus replace them, cuz they always seem to go bad when you least suspect it.
[09:30] <Coffeegrindah> anyone good with GRUB?
[09:30] <arrenlex> !anyone | Coffeegrindah
[09:30] <Flannel> !anyone | Coffeegrindah
[09:30] <ubotu> Coffeegrindah: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:31] <prepuzio> please, is anyone reading me ? just want to make shure gaim is working properly, thanks.
[09:31] <TheVault> I HATE GRUB! It was a nightmare when I had no clue on what I was doing
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> !supergrubdisk
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrubdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <kelsin> prepuzio: yes we see you
[09:31] <eck> grub is the best
[09:31] <TheVault> I'm going to get me some grub lol
[09:31] <arrenlex> TheVault: Do you see something wrong with "I hate it because I don't know what I was doing"? xD
[09:31] <Flannel> prepuzio: yep
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> Coffeegrindah: sorry, i suck wth Grub, if it wasn't for the fact Ubuntu does it automatically, i'd be lost..lol
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: lol, later
[09:31] <scooterskin> hello, can anyone tell me which version would be best to install edgy or dapper?
[09:31] <prepuzio> thank you Flannel
[09:31] <xf00f> System->Preferences->Network Proxy probably
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> !botsnack
[09:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:31] <eck> Coffeegrindah: what is your question, i will see if i can help
[09:32] <oo7> edgy = newer packages, but less stable, while dapper = stable packages, but not necessarily the newest
[09:32] <Coffeegrindah> hate to repeat a big question again, but i need it to point to the boot record on my USB drive, My machine won't natively do it
[09:32] <TheVault> arrenlex: When I first dual booted, I had no clue about ubuntu at the time, so when I deleted the linux partitions, grub did not let me boot back into Windows....but I know how to fix all that now, but it was a nightmare
[09:32] <Uggggg> anyone know how to make links I click in xchat open with firefox instead of terminal
[09:32] <eck> Coffeegrindah: if your bios cannot see the usb drive, neither can grub
[09:32] <scooterskin> thx
[09:32] <admin__> I need help installing Tor
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> Tor?
[09:33] <arrenlex> !tor
[09:33] <eck> (it is in the grub documentation)
[09:33] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[09:33] <admin__> This guide: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/02/how-to-install-tor-privoxy-kubuntu-606-610/
[09:33] <Uggggg> goodluck andmin
[09:33] <oo7> Uggggg, good question
[09:33] <Uggggg> I just use my windows box
[09:33] <globe> um...I set up an NFS share on a Ubuntu computer to dump a hard drive from a laptop running Ubuntu live.  I can connect to the share and I can write to it, but I can't move files from the mounted harddrive to the network because of user permissions. Any ideas how I can accomplish this?
[09:33] <st0n3cutt3r> minimec: I'm not sure how to do any of that, sorry about the delay I have college stuff to deal with
[09:33] <Uggggg> it was too much trouble to get tor working in ubuntu
[09:33] <Coffeegrindah> my bios "can" but won't for some reason..  it;s odd It says it will boot from a USB device, just not flashdrives
[09:33] <IndyGunFreak> Uggggg: whats it do?
[09:33] <Uggggg> TOR?
[09:33] <Uggggg> *_*
[09:33] <st0n3cutt3r> joshjosh: no, I went to bed like 8 hours ago, got up and started at it again 2 hours ago
[09:33] <admin__> said I need to comment out: logfile logfile and jarfile jarfile how do I do this?
[09:33] <Uggggg> tor.eff.org
[09:34] <Barbalander> i have problem with xorg. It freezes and looks like LSD drugs. Then the computer reboots.
[09:34] <gio> it
[09:34] <eck> Coffeegrindah: are you trying to put grub on your hard drive and have it boot from the flash drive, or putting it on the flash drive itself?
[09:34] <Flannel> Uggggg: You can install Tor easily (it's in universe)
[09:34] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi, I wanted to know whether it is safe to shrink NTFS partitions using the Ubuntu installer
[09:34] <gio> italy
[09:34] <ncaller> Is there a package to install vmware-server with or only player?
[09:34] <Flannel> !it | gio
[09:34] <ubotu> gio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:34] <Uggggg> not the latest version
[09:34] <Uggggg> like 10 year old versions
[09:34] <Uggggg> maybe
[09:34] <gays> If i buy a domain, what else do it need to get it to point to my dedicated server? =p
[09:35] <oo7> gays: dns
[09:35] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[09:35] <ncaller> so best to just go download it
[09:35] <oo7> see afraid.org
[09:35] <gays> oo7: Ok, do they provide it for free?
[09:35] <kelsin> admin__: that guide tells you to edit some files (it uses vim, you can use gedit) and then comment some lines, it depends on the format of those files you're editing. It should be pretty easy to figure out what the comment format is
[09:35] <oo7> yes
[09:35] <oo7> or you can setup your own
[09:35] <Coffeegrindah> ech: well I've actually have it on my thumbdrive (installed at work) I need my local grub, to point to that
[09:35] <kelsin> admin__: if that guide is confusing to you, Tor is probably not something you need to mess with
[09:35] <gays> oo7: ok thanks :D
[09:35] <eck> gays: some registrars will do it for you
[09:35] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: is there anyway to fix the choppy playback of flash videos? Like when I am on youtube, its all choppy
[09:35] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: The next time you start your gnome session you should have a new applet in the taskbar, where you can configure your device.
[09:35] <Uggggg> tor is easy to install and setup in windows
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: I don't know, i've never had that problem.
[09:36] <arrenlex> TheVault: 7 or 9?
[09:36] <TheVault> 9
[09:36] <Uggggg> I just use vnc to remotely use it via a win2k box
[09:36] <TheVault> arrenlex: I have nine
[09:36] <Flannel> Uggggg: no, they're not old.
[09:36] <admin__> ok, but I don't see the "logfile logfile" nor the "jarfile jarfile" string
[09:36] <oo7> gays: to be honest, i personally know that afraid.org has a vuln and a select few can create or edit any entries to any domains hosted at afraid.org
[09:36] <MalfermitaKodo> no one can tell me about that?
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: Flash works fine for me.
[09:36] <Uggggg> hahah
[09:36] <eck> Coffeegrindah: you only need grub in one place, either on your hard drive or on the flash drive (there is no need to chainload it)
[09:36] <Uggggg> yeah they are
[09:36] <Uggggg> i just checked
[09:36] <kelsin> admin__: pastebin the file you're editing
[09:36] <Uggggg> like min 4 versions behind
[09:37] <kelsin> !pastebin > admin__
[09:37] <Flannel> Uggggg: Edgy has 0.1.1.23 and Dapper has 0.1.0.16, Those are right on schedule for when they were released
[09:37] <eck> Coffeegrindah: i would try just booting off the flash drive, since that is a bit easier
[09:37] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Hmmm, maybe its my computer
[09:37] <Coffeegrindah> eck i cant
[09:37] <gays> Ok, but i bought a domain from godaddy, i selected paypal. but i havent paid anything for it yet. How long time does it take before i get a confirmation mail? =\
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: maybe...
[09:37] <Coffeegrindah> thats why I'm here
[09:37] <Coffeegrindah> :)
[09:37] <oo7> gays: 2 minutes maybe
[09:37] <Uggggg> running an older tor client is just asking for trouble
[09:37] <zcat[1] > how do I "repair" having used the nvidia installer? I've tried to delete them manually, and reinstall nvidia-glx, restricted-modules and xserver-xorg-nv but when I reboot I still have to manually modprobe nvidia before I can get X to start and most of the time it still won't run properly. At the moment I'm using the 'nv' driver.
[09:37] <eck> Coffeegrindah: well, it's an issue that you have to work out with your bios :-)
[09:37] <TheVault> No offense, but paypal SUX
[09:37] <Flannel> Uggggg: Ubuntu freezes the versions of any software it's released with.  After that, only bugfixes and security patches are backported
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> i hate paypal
[09:38] <Uggggg> lol if then...
[09:38] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: They shut down my account for no apparent reason
[09:38] <gays> oo7: Hmm, i ordered for a few hours ago. But after i setup the billing agreement it said "Order is already placed" or something =\
[09:38] <Uggggg> its a feature to run old versions not a bug
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: well, my reasons for not liking them, are really political(they are rabidly antigun, along with Ebay)/...
[09:38] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: My friend had the same problem
[09:38] <Flannel> Uggggg: you'd want to check the changelogs to see what bugs have been fixed.  If the subsequent releases are all just bugfixes, then in theory, the versions in dapper and edgy are identical to the newest release
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: does this video work
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZQ_It0weI
[09:38] <billymeter> gays: I had my domain up and running from them in about 10 minutes after I paid
[09:39] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Lemme try
[09:39] <Coffeegrindah> eck: but if I can just point it to the kernel on /dev/sdb1 then I could bypass the secondary GRUB couldn't I?
[09:39] <kiran> Hi, I'm using edgy on a Dell inspiron 6400 with ATI X1400, but just can't find a way to install my drivers, could someone help me plz?
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: thats my favorite youtube video ever...lol
[09:39] <TheVault> I LOVE THAT VIDEO INDYGUNFREAK
[09:39] <TheVault> its funny and true
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> hd
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:39] <st0n3cutt3r> minimec: how can I do that if I am not connected to the internet in the first place?
[09:39] <Coffeegrindah> eck; I need it on the flash drive to boot remotely, but I need it locally to well.. boot
[09:39] <eck> Coffeegrindah: yes, in theory you could, but i doubt it will work if you can't boot from the device itself; to do so you would need to make sure you have it as a grub device, instructions to do that are here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/ch07s04.html
[09:40] <admin__> logfile= http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8670/
[09:40] <gays> billymeter: Hmm, maybe i did something wrong. I had a hard time registring an account =P I think ill try again=P
[09:40] <Uggggg> http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[09:40] <aschwo> hey, i've got some problems getting ubuntu to recognize my SATA HD on a 965p chipset mobo, can anyoen help me out?
[09:40] <eck> Coffeegrindah: basically you need to make sure grub can see the device when you're in a grub shell, and make sure there is a device mapped to it
[09:40] <billymeter> gays: I'd suggest checking oyur Paypal account to see if the payment went through
[09:40] <Coffeegrindah> eck: cool I'll check it out ..
[09:40] <Coffeegrindah> thanks
[09:40] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: Ok. There is a network-setting in your settings menu. There you should see the new wireless device.
[09:40] <billymeter> gays: If it did, try talking to the customer service folks
[09:41] <linux_kid> How do i find the version of pcl on a windows printer?
[09:41] <TheVault> keep seeing this thing jumping up and down lol
[09:41] <teeL> ops didnt notice the nick >.<
[09:41] <eck> Coffeegrindah: especially look at section 7.4.2
[09:41] <renu> hey people, i wanna upgrade from dapper to edgy, but the update manager doesn't show me that there is a needed update (and i don't wanna do it in the terminal as there are warnings that can mess up the comp)... so what do you recommend me? is it ok if i wait for the stable version of feisty?
[09:41] <Coffeegrindah> already there :)
[09:41] <teeL> billymeter: I didnt get to any paypal confirmation or anything like that.. ill try support.
[09:42] <st0n3cutt3r> minimec: I can see the wireless device and even configure it, but it can't find the network for some reason :/
[09:42] <renu> anybody? :d
[09:42] <billymeter> teeL: You should be able to log in and view your account history. If you see that GoDaddy charged you, then well they have your money. If not, then maybe something happened and you have to do another transaction.
[09:42] <mdasilva> yo
[09:42] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Mac killed my inner child LOL
[09:42] <Remorse_> hi
[09:42] <Flannel> renu: gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:42] <billymeter> I <3 Macintosh
[09:42] <Uggggg> I just got openoffice 2.1 working... the fonts don't look like squiggles anymore  YAY!!!!
[09:42] <Flannel> renu: Since Dapper is a LTS, it won't nag you about Edgy unless you ask (with the -c)
[09:43] <TheVault> uggggg: Congrats
[09:43] <renu> Flannel, that's what I did, but then i get a message saying my system is up to date
[09:43] <jexdawg> how can i configure the mplayer plug-in to play .wmvs, quicktime files, and files other than just flash, which is all it handles now? basically, where can i edit what the mplayer plugin handles? please help, its a huge pain not being able to stream any file type that isn't flash.
[09:43] <mdasilva> out of interest
[09:43] <Remorse_> unsure
[09:43] <Uggggg> jex automatix will install all the crud
[09:43] <Flannel> renu: you didn't add the -c probably
[09:43] <Uggggg> even though everyone here will tell you it will kill your rig
[09:43] <arrenlex> jexdawg: mplayerplug-in doesn't handle flash. o_O
[09:43] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: lol.. i know, its hilarious
[09:43] <Flannel> Uggggg: please don't recommend automatix here.
[09:43] <renu> Flannel, but i did :)
[09:43] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: you will not find any network with this. you may want to search a network on a console with the appropriate tool. one moment please ...
[09:43] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: But I can relate to that video
[09:43] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[09:43] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:43] <jexdawg> well, i'm a liar, i coudln't remember exactly what it does play so i said flash. anyways, haha, it still doesn't play .wmvs and i'd like it too.
[09:43] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: really?.. i never used a mac
[09:43] <renu> i typed in the terminal sudo upadate manager -c -d
[09:44] <teeL> billymeter: Nope, its not in the history..
[09:44] <Uggggg> !worksforeveryone
[09:44] <Uggggg> haha
[09:44] <IndyGunFreak> !justworks
[09:44] <coshx> is there a good tutorial/wiki for writing a deb package for ubuntu? been searching google, but the ones i've found seem out of date.
[09:44] <arrenlex> jexdawg: go to about:plugins in firefox and pastebin the entire page, please.
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justworks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, I use one everyday at school for my Multimedia Class
[09:44] <arrenlex> !pastebin | jexdawg
[09:44] <ubotu> jexdawg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:44] <joshjosh> gstreamer lets you play wmv
[09:44] <jexdawg> ok
[09:44] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: iwspy is the tool.
[09:44] <TheVault> Only thing I like about the Mac is the Dock
[09:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:44] <admin__> thx
[09:44] <joshjosh> TheVault: HAH!
[09:44] <IndyGunFreak> i gues everything has to have some redeeming qualities.
[09:44] <billymeter> teeL: Then the transaction most likely didn't go through. Try registering it again.
[09:45] <TheVault> joshjosh: What?
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> Uggggg: do you use automatix?
[09:45] <kelsin> coshx: the best place I found is the New Maintainers Guide on the debian documentation page. Still, deb's been around so long it's tough to find a good basic guide :-(
[09:45] <joshjosh> TheVault: There's alot of things to like about the mac. I hate the dock personally
[09:45] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: iwspy eth0 or so ...
[09:45] <Uggggg> yes on over 20 machines
[09:45] <coshx> kelsin: thanks. i'll check it out.
[09:45] <Uggggg> no problems
[09:45] <Flannel> renu: er, no -d, that's if you're on edgy and wan to upgrade to feisty (while still unstable).  You should use gksu not sudo, but I don't think that'd cause the problem.  I don't know.
[09:45] <joshjosh> TheVault: I'd rather use object dock in XP than the mac dock
[09:45] <TheVault> joshjosh: Like I was reading, some people like the dock, others hate it
[09:45] <teeL> billymeter: Ok =)
[09:45] <BrendanM> oh yeah, TheVault, did you get your dock working?
[09:45] <Uggggg> everyone I know who runs ubuntu in the real world uses it
[09:45] <st0n3cutt3r> minimec: just type that into the terminal?
[09:45] <Uggggg> unless they want to spend 20 hours configging stupid stuff in the cli
[09:45] <joshjosh> TheVault: Which dock you trying to use?
[09:45] <Flannel> Uggggg: Good for you.  Please do not recommend it here.
[09:45] <TheVault> BrendanM: I have not a clue how to set it up
[09:46] <Uggggg> lol
[09:46] <jexdawg> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8671/ <- my about:plugins
[09:46] <TheVault> joshjosh: nothing at the moment, just made a new panel with the "Look alike feel" but no magification thing on the right of my screen
[09:46] <renu> Flannel, I have edgy cd, and I could upadet from the cd, but I'm afraid that the programs on the cd are not latest versions compared to what I have on my laptop (with usual updates for dapper)... so do you think such an update would make sense...?
[09:46] <minimec> st0n3cutt3r: I have to correct myself type iwlist eth0 scanning
[09:46] <joshjosh> TheVault: You try gdesklets? They have a toolbar launcher
[09:46] <Uggggg> flannel I throw down the gauntlet to you... show me one instance of a killed system (other than nvidia drivers)  by the newest build of automatix2
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> Uggggg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy   thats a better place to send them
[09:46] <sacater> i doubt it. but has anyone got a server they dont use, or care little about, if they do i am looking to use for free by remote, root would be prefered
[09:47] <arrenlex> jexdawg: remove the totem-mozilla package and everything will magically work for you.
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> Uggggg: i've not even had issues with the Nvidia Driver, but thats another issue.
[09:47] <Flannel> IndyGunFreak: ubuntuguide isn't safe either.  (it wasnt, then it was, it is't again), send them to the wiki.
[09:47] <Barbalander> when i start xorg i get fanzy colors fading all over the screen. Then my computer reboots. I've used nvidia-config.
[09:47] <TheVault> joshjosh: thats not the same. I want it where I put my mouse over the icons, it does what the mac dock does
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: i don't know, i've had no issues with that wiki, and i always give it to folks
[09:47] <joshjosh> TheVault; The toolbar launcher has magnification, but it looks stupid. Sounds like you want something like kiba
[09:47] <joshjosh> TheVault: What vers of ubuntu you running?
[09:48] <TheVault> joshjosh: 6.06
[09:48] <Flannel> IndyGunFreak: It's canon fr this channel again, not to use ubuntuguide anymore
[09:48] <jexdawg> i used automatix to install mplayer and several codecs - perhaps that constitutes the majority of my problem. should i uninstall them all (with automatix?) and just redo it via terminal?
[09:48] <renu> Flannel, I've just tried with gksu, but the same shit happens again :(
[09:48] <slew> is there a way to get a nifty little shadow behind the windows in gnome?
[09:48] <joshjosh> TheVault: Well, kiba's a bit tricky and you have to have beryl installed to use it...
[09:48] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Did you hear what I said?
[09:48] <Flannel> renu: pastebin your sources.list
[09:48] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: first i've saw that
[09:48] <jexdawg> nope... sorry, i'll search for it
[09:48] <coshx> slew: beryl or the other xgl wm
[09:48] <arrenlex> (13:47:10) arrenlex: jexdawg: remove the totem-mozilla package and everything will magically work for you.
[09:48] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: i've linked it a bazillion times
[09:48] <slew> coshx, neither
[09:48] <BrendanM> There's a ton of docks out there: http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac
[09:48] <TheVault> joshjosh: Well I don't have beryl installed nor do I think my graphics card could handel that
[09:49] <jexdawg> how does one go about removing the totem-mozilla package? (sorry, noob)
[09:49] <joshjosh> TheVault: Alright. Try the gdesklets toolbar launcher
[09:49] <arrenlex> !synaptics | jexdawg
[09:49] <ubotu> jexdawg: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:49] <arrenlex> !synaptic | jexdawg
[09:49] <ubotu> jexdawg: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:49] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Sorry, you want the second link. Typo.
[09:49] <renu> Flannel, what was the link for that?
[09:49] <Flannel> !paste | renu
[09:49] <ubotu> renu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:49] <jexdawg> i know how to use synaptic. alright, i'll give it a try, thanks arrenlex
[09:49] <TheVault> BreandanM: I seen that url but I did not think you could download that
[09:49] <TheVault> Don't know where to download it
[09:50] <renu> ok, thanks, ubotu!
[09:50] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Use synaptic to remove totem-mozilla.
[09:50] <joshjosh> TheVault: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[09:50] <TheVault> joshjosh: wheres the homepage of gdesklets
[09:50] <joshjosh> It's basically a widget engine for gnome.
[09:50] <admin__> how do restart a process?
[09:50] <Flannel> admin__: which one?
[09:51] <teeL> billymeter: Should i register as Private or Public?
[09:51] <admin__> privoxy
[09:51] <joshjosh> it seems to be down at the moment
[09:51] <TheVault> nvm found the homepage of it
[09:51] <BrendanM> TheVault, sure why couldn't you download it?
[09:51] <Flannel> admin__: usually its a script in /etc/init.d/
[09:51] <billymeter> teeL: The domain name? Is it refering to the Whois information?
[09:51] <admin__> is it easier to just restart the computer?
[09:51] <globe> is it possible to give myself permission to mount & umount remote nfs shares?  I can only mount them as root and only access them as user (which I cant because they were mounted as root)
[09:51] <TheVault> BrendanM: where is the download link, Don't see it
[09:52] <kelsin> admin__: you're guide tells you: sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart
[09:52] <renu> Flannel, it's on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8675/
[09:52] <jexdawg> arrenlex, when i choose to uninstall totem-mozilla, synaptic says that i must also remove: ubuntu-desktop .... that seems kind of important, no?
[09:52] <BrendanM> TheVault, here's a forum thread by somebody who installed it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570
[09:52] <teeL> billymeter: I think its the whois information. But it just says: Private or Public
[09:52] <TheVault> Thanks
[09:52] <dg1> Back later :) Good luck TheVault!
[09:52] <BrendanM> Here's for the other one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351281
[09:52] <admin__> how do I copy text from this program?
[09:53] <arrenlex> !ubuntu-desktop | jexdawg
[09:53] <ubotu> jexdawg: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[09:53] <Codpair> um...is this where i can get help? my computer wont start without using live cd
[09:53] <billymeter> teeL: That's up to you. It's asking if it will put your personal information in the Whois database, or if you want to keep it private you'll register it through Domains By Proxy and it'll hide your personal information.
[09:53] <kelsin> admin__: what is "this program"
[09:53] <TheVault> Thanks guys for all the help, but I gotta go
[09:54] <TheVault> Thanks once again :)
[09:54] <Flannel> Codpair: what error do you get? (what have you done so far to your computer?)
[09:54] <kelsin> admin__: from most X programs you can select the text, then middle click where you want to paste
[09:54] <admin__> Konversation
[09:54] <Codpair> my windows got really corrupted so i pulled out the linux
[09:54] <Codpair> (first time user)
[09:54] <teeL> billymeter: Ok, the private one is cheaper, and i dont need my personal information in the whois database =p But when i press Private it just adds the private domain, do i have to remove the other one?
[09:54] <Codpair> i installed it
[09:54] <LordLimecat> someone mentioned i should grab php, phpmyadmin, and apache
[09:55] <rlevitin> im having issues in dapper with gaim 2.0 suddenly closing at random intervals
[09:55] <c1|freaky> I just love kubuntu ;D (i dont like gnome that much)
[09:55] <admin__> but every time someone replies the text gets deselected.
[09:55] <Uggggg> anyone know a program to extract email from thunderbird on windows and import it to thunderbird on ubuntu?
[09:55] <Codpair> and now when i try to start the cpu i get an error 18
[09:55] <LordLimecat> which php?  i see php-mysql4 is installed, but php5 is available .0
[09:55] <billymeter> teeL: I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
[09:55] <Jvik> My desktop has disappeared. The wallpaper is gone. When i try to use Places -> HDD1 i get the message :"There is no act associated to this location". Not sure if its exactly that it would be in english, because i have norwegian ubuntu.
[09:55] <Jvik> What the heck is wronge
[09:55] <n-iCe-> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:55] <Jvik> wrong *
[09:55] <jexdawg> arrenlex, sorry for all the questions, but i just uninstalled totem-mozilla and ubuntu-desktop. afterwards, i went to reinstall ubunut-desktop and it says other changes must occur, including the installation of totem-mozilla. seems like i'm running in circles?
[09:55] <teeL> billymeter: Ok, i'll just take the public one ^^
[09:55] <Flannel> Uggggg: Mozilla has instructions on copying stuff over
[09:55] <rlevitin> I compiled it from source, and i need help with either fixing the crashing issue or uninstalling a source compiled program...
[09:55] <Jvik> Same message if i try to go places -> desktop
[09:55] <Flannel> renu: I don't know.  Looks like everything is in order.  You probably don't want to upgrade though, automatix is liable to break your system on upgrade.
[09:55] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Don't reinstall ubuntu-desktop.
[09:55] <jexdawg> alright. i imagine its not vital then?
[09:56] <Flannel> renu: actually, update-manager could be seeing the third party packages and refusing to upgrade... but, I don't know if it'd do that.
[09:56] <renu> Flannel, yes, that's what I'm afarid of too :d You think I should wait then for feisty?
[09:56] <arrenlex> jexdawg: It's a metapackage. It depends on other packages so you can install ubuntu-desktop rather than installing 5000 packages that ubuntu actually consists of. It itself doesn't actually contain anything.
[09:57] <Flannel> renu: Feisty won't be any better (unlessyou were planning on installing Feisty clean).  To upgrade to feisty, you'd still have to upgrade through edgy.
[09:57] <jexdawg> arrenlex: ah! okay, got it. thanks.
[09:57] <rlevitin> how do i uninstall packages compiled from source?
[09:57] <LordLimecat> nvm -_-
[09:57] <triumas> labas
[09:57] <admin__> is there any way to copy text off Konversation? there must be an easily way
[09:57] <Jvik> My desktop has disappeared. The wallpaper is gone. When i try to use Places -> HDD1 i get the message :"There is no act associated to this location". Not sure if its exactly that it would be in english, because i have norwegian ubuntu. Same message if i enter Places -> Desktop. What is wrong? Please help me
[09:57] <arrenlex> rlevitin: execute make uninstall in the source directory. In the future, use checkinstall.
[09:57] <Codpair> dose anyone know what error 18 is?
[09:57] <arrenlex> !checkinstall | rlevitin
[09:57] <ubotu> rlevitin: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:57] <teeL> billymeter: Im about to checkout now, but godaddy asks for "New PayPal Information. Please enter in a friendly name to identify this PayPal account: " I dont know what to type there
[09:57] <Flannel> rlevitin: make uninstall (if possible), otherwise delete all the files it installed.
[09:57] <renu> Flannel, and what if I update from the cd I have already? do you think that would be the best solution maybe?
[09:58] <billymeter> teeL: I think you put in your paypal username there.
[09:58] <teeL> ok
[09:58] <Flannel> renu: do you have the Desktop CD or the Altenrate CD?
[09:58] <rlevitin> Flannel: i dunno every file it installed
[09:58] <eck> Jvik: try entering 'mount' and seeing if the disk is mounted
[09:58] <rlevitin> and i think i deleted the source files once i compiled it :S
[09:58] <illriginal> Hey guys, how come my character map doesn't have the n with the ~ above it? That's a hispanic/latin character
[09:58] <renu> i have a desktop one at the moment, but i can easily download the other one, if you that that'd be better
[09:58] <Flannel> rlevitin: you'll have to grab the source again.  This is why we use package management ;)
[09:58] <arrenlex> rlevitin: That's why you use checkinstall =P
[09:59] <Jvik> eck, is that the problem when i even cant find the desktop ?
[09:59] <kelsin> ussually compiles programs go into /usr/local (instead of /usr to keep /usr only system packages)
[09:59] <rlevitin> Flannel: thanks
[09:59] <rlevitin> arrenlex: thanks
[09:59] <Markok765> NO PROBLEM
[09:59] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I'm using 6.10 and I have a problem with audacity: it doesn't show any text (screenshot: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2693/adacityym2.png ). I had the same problem also while installing Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, so I suppose it's a problem with libwxgtk - has anyone an idea on how I could fix it? Or: how can I restore *all* ubuntu fonts?
[09:59] <renu> Flannel,  i have a desktop one at the moment, but i can easily download the other one, if you that that'd be better (forgot to lighten you :)
[09:59] <jexdawg> arrenlex: i love you. i think mplayer is a pretty annoying and crappy plugin and poor replacement for windows media player and quicktime and stuff, but at least it works now. it still has to completely buffer before streaming, but at least it finally works. thanks a lot.
[09:59] <eck> Jvik: if you split up your install over more than one partition/device then if one of those goes away it could cause problems like that
[09:59] <Flannel> renu: I don't think it'd help anyway, probably the same issue you have now.  What you might want to do is check out launchpad.net for bugs in update-manager.  Someone might have had this same thing, and a workaround is available, or whatnot (or an explanation)
[09:59] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Don't be mean to mplayer. It owns my soul.
[10:00] <illriginal> Hey guys, how come my character map doesn't have the n with the ~ above it? That's a hispanic/latin character
[10:00] <Jvik> eck; i only use one partition
[10:00] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Shouldn't have to buffer completely. Can you right-click on a movie, go to preferences, and make a screenshot for me?
[10:00] <eck> Jvik: weird -- maybe you have filesystem corruption? look in /lost+found
[10:00] <Codpair> um...i cant start my comp w/o the live cd...i get an error every time i try
[10:00] <renu> ok, thanks Flannel!
[10:00] <gio_> italy
[10:00] <Jvik> eck; i can give you ssh access if you want to take a look
[10:01] <green_> hi flannel, do u know how to configure k3b so it will erase dvd-rw's?
[10:01] <Flannel> Codpair: error 18 is "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS", What's the layout of your partitions?
[10:01] <eck> Jvik: that is not necessary, just try sudo ls -la /lost+found/
[10:01] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i change the rights on a HDD (read, write etc) via a  command prompt?
[10:01] <eck> Jvik: if you can't open a terminal switch to a VT with ctrl-alt-f1
[10:01] <jexdawg> it is the devil, but the devil is hip, so its all good. anywho, why exactly was totem-mozilla bringing my video playing abilities to its knees?
[10:01] <rlevitin> arrenlex: checkinstall before i use make install? or instead of?
[10:01] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: what filesystem?
[10:01] <kelsin> Ippatsu: you aren't connecting with vnc are you?
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> eck fat32
[10:02] <arrenlex> rlevitin: Instead of. It makes a .deb package for you, which is then installed.
[10:02] <Jvik> eck,  can enter terminal
[10:02] <Codpair> flannel:i dont know, when i installed, i just said erase the hard drive
[10:02] <Ippatsu> kelsin: no, I'm not using vnc
[10:02] <arrenlex> rlevitin: ./configure, make, sudo checkinstall
[10:02] <jexdawg> sure arrenlex, one second
[10:02] <Jvik> eck, http://hashbin.com/2c8.html
[10:02] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: it is an option when you mount the filesystem, the details are in the mount man page (i think basically you have to mount it with uid=something)
[10:03] <Comrade-Sergei> eck its already mounted can i change it now?
[10:03] <eck> Jvik: it doesn't look like that is the case
[10:03] <globe> exit
[10:03] <eck> Jvik: i am not sure what the problem is, sorry
[10:03] <Flannel> Codpair: hmm.  Right, that shouldn't be an issue then, if you just let the installer take care of it.  Well, except that it obviously is.
[10:03] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: you have to do something like mount -o remount,uid=something /mnt/fat32
[10:03] <teeL> billymeter: Oh, its working now :D But is it possible to set up reverse dns to my dedicated server for free? =p
[10:03] <Markok765> How much FASTER will ubuntu be than a 2000 pro install?
[10:04] <Codpair> flannel:it happens while my computer is doing something like GRUB i think
[10:04] <Flannel> renu: another place you might look would be the forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[10:04] <eck> Markok765: if it is, probably not much faster
[10:04] <Shinoda> would anyone have any idea why sudo alsactl store 0 doesn't do its job between reboots (ie, snd settings are always reset)? it used to, but i experimented a bit with 2 cards and now it doesn't (and yes, 0 is the correct card index). tia for any help
[10:04] <illriginal> Hey guys, how come my character map doesn't have the n with the ~ above it? That's a hispanic/latin character
[10:04] <Markok765> eck: its a 226mhz with 64m ram laptop
[10:05] <eck> Markok765: it will be slow no matter what :-)
[10:05] <Comrade-Sergei> eck yea i changed that to mount -o remount,uid=something /HDD and it didnt do anything...
[10:05] <billymeter> teeL: I'm not sure if GoDaddy supports that or not. Might have to try using a service at DynDns.com or equivalent
[10:05] <eck> Markok765: _maybe_ you can load X + fluxbox without swapping, but good luck launching any apps that are useful to you
[10:05] <teeL> billymeter: Ah ok, ill try dyndns. Thanks for helping :)
[10:05] <arrenlex> !xubuntu | Markok765
[10:06] <ubotu> Markok765: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:06] <billymeter> teeL: No problem.
[10:06] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: look at the mount point and see if the ownership of files has changed
[10:06] <PocketIRC> I have an external Usb-harddrive. which format should I use on it if I want to use it in A)ubuntu or B)ubuntu and winxp
[10:06] <Sonderblade> illriginal: maybe because it is two characters
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> eck its still root
[10:06] <eck> arrenlex: 64 MB is not even close to enough for xubuntu
[10:06] <arrenlex> PocketIRC: fat32
[10:06] <Flannel> Codpair: yeah, that's a GRUB error.  Since youre obviously in reinstalling mode... try reinstalling, when asked about partitioning, create a small one (~50MB) for /boot and then a second one for the rest (/)
[10:06] <HymnToLife> PocketIRC, ext3
[10:06] <jexdawg> arrenlex: my mplayer preferences --> http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d148/whytfnot/Screenshot-mplayerplug-inconfigurat.png
[10:06] <illriginal> Oh windows it's just a character.
[10:06] <Markok765> arrenlex: i have tried that, and it wont let me connect to the internet. ubuntu works on my 3ghz with 1GB ram machine very well
[10:07] <illriginal> LIke I said that character is used in both spanish and latin.
[10:07] <illriginal> it's just 1 character.
[10:07] <Codpair> ok, ill try that
[10:07] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: check that it took properly by just issuing the mount command
[10:07] <Flannel> Codpair: just make sure that the /boot is the first partition on the drive (hda1)
[10:07] <kelsin> illriginal: I found it by selecting "By Unicode BlocK" from View and then looking in the Latin-1 Supplement block
[10:07] <cedric30> ? I have a big problem, I had to shut down my computer badly and now gnome is very long too start and all the windows i open are long too, I had some errors on my disk using fsck and now I have no error but it is ever long
[10:07] <cedric30> ?
[10:07] <eck> illriginal: can you enter it without going through the character map, e.g. with copy and paste?
 why?
[10:08] <Markok765> Can you launch ubuntu from a usb drive?
[10:08] <illriginal> wait.. kelsin it's in the character map? and select unicode block?
 why ext3?
[10:08] <cedric30> Someone have ever had this prob?
[10:08] <Coffeegrindah> Markok765 yes ..
[10:08] <eck> Comrade-Sergei: no, just 'mount'
[10:08] <Comrade-Sergei> Markok765 yes if your mobo supports it
[10:08] <illriginal> YES!!!!
[10:08] <cusco> Markok765: if your bios supports booting from a usb flash drive,yes
[10:08] <HymnToLife> PocketIRC, because FAT32 is old and ugly
[10:08] <illriginal> kelsin you rock!!!
[10:08] <illriginal> thanks a lot man... finally i found it lol
[10:08] <kelsin> illriginal: I think that is a common character so it's way lower in the unicode spec then others, I don't understand it fully though
[10:08] <arrenlex> PocketIRC: 'cause you said you wanted to share it with winxp, which can't read ext3 without special drivers.
[10:09] <illriginal> heh
[10:09] <cedric30> Someone could help me to find a solution without re install all
[10:09] <cedric30> ?
[10:09] <Markok765> cusco: Do i have to set any flags, eg boot flag, and will it install directly to usb?
[10:09] <HymnToLife> arrenlex, so ? just install them
[10:09] <factotum> so you think there will ever be an actual manual or docs for using QTParted?
[10:09] <riotkittie> cedric30: solution for what?
[10:09] <cedric30> I have done a fsck 3 times
[10:09] <factotum> I just installed it and cant find anything on how it works
[10:09] <illriginal> kelsin
[10:09] <arrenlex> HymnToLife: It's a USB drive. So I assume it'll be taken to many computers. He'd have to install special drivers on them all. No guarantee he'd have permissions to do it on them all, either.
[10:09] <cedric30> riotkittie: the start of gnome is very long
[10:09] <illriginal> what combination of numbers/letters/keys do i need to press in order to use it?
[10:09] <cr4z3d> where should i go to ask questions about customizing ubuntu? (login screen, themes ect)
[10:10] <PocketIRC> ok so if I share my external with XP=fat32    just ubuntu=ext3?
[10:10] <cedric30> riotkittie: My system had crash and I had to shutdown
[10:10] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer
[10:10] <wastedtime> any suggestions
[10:10] <Coffeegrindah> Markok765 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?highlight=%28liveusb%29
[10:10] <kelsin> illriginal: I think you can click and drag it from char map, past that I have no idea
[10:10] <illriginal> oh ok
[10:10] <illriginal> thanks kelsin
[10:10] <cedric30> riotkittie: now the start of gnome and soft are very long
[10:10] <oo7> so i accidently deleted my fstab...i just manually recreated it.  time to reboot.  wish me luck.
[10:11] <cogeno> How do you accidentily delete your fstab...
[10:11] <oo7> so you want the story....
[10:11] <cedric30> riotkittie: I have made a fsck 3times and it had corrected some errors....
[10:11] <Flannel> cogeno: running as root, because you're silly
[10:11] <cedric30> riotkittie: but it's ever long
[10:11] <Markok765> cogeno: i once deleted the firmware of my mp3 player, i returned it
[10:11] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Looks fine, except that you should set your video driver to x11, audio to alsa, and check "connect to rtsp media over tcp". But this won't change the buffering, just compatibility.
[10:11] <Markok765> OH GOD MY LAPTOP IS SLOW
[10:11] <riotkittie> cedric30: oh. no clue, sorry.
[10:11] <PocketIRC> ext3, ext2 what difference ?
[10:11] <arrenlex> Markok765: This the 233mhz laptop?
[10:11] <cogeno> Markok765: I've done that several time on my chipod. I just restored it :D
[10:11] <factotum> anyone know how to resize a partition on qtparted? the option is greyed out for some reason, even as root
[10:12] <cedric30> Markok765: Me too
[10:12] <arrenlex> Markok765: When did you come to this realisation?
[10:12] <kelsin> illriginal: you hold down ctrl and shift, then type F1 then let go aparently
[10:12] <oo7> i was downloading a torrent, which i thoguht was to a large partition, but the large partition wasn't mounted, so it was being downloaded to my / partition.  so overnight it filled up the HD.  so this morning i was wondering why the partition wasn't mounted, so i edited my fstab, while my HD was completly full.  when i saved my fstab, it was saved as an empty file and i lost the data within.  pretty shitty eh?
[10:12] <Flannel> factotum: You can't resize mounted partitions.  that's most likely why.
[10:12] <kelsin> illriginal: (that's 'f' then '1', not the f1 key)
[10:12] <illriginal> oh lol
[10:12] <illriginal> hold on
[10:12] <riotkittie> cedric30: do you have any other accounts on the computer? can you log in as another user and see if the  slowness affects that account, too?
[10:12] <Coffeegrindah> eck: yeah looks like my machine doesn't like even looking at the drive..  see's my USB HDD no problem though..
[10:13] <illriginal> Nah doesn't work
[10:13] <cedric30> riotkittie: no no other account
[10:13] <kelsin> illriginal: (it's working for me in gedit and gnome-terminal)
[10:13] <Coffeegrindah> eck: as far as using my persistant home I *can* still do it though, I just need to use my livecd
[10:13] <illriginal> at least not on x chat
[10:13] <factotum> Flannel: oh alright, I wish they would include that in their documentation, oh wait ther isn't any
[10:13] <Coffeegrindah> boourns
[10:13] <illriginal> ok hold on
[10:13] <arrenlex> oo7: If you boot from the liveCD, you can mount your target partition, clean it out, and recreate the ftsab from the one made by the cd.
[10:13] <Markok765> arrenlex: yes
[10:13] <eck> Coffeegrindah: gross, some bioses actually make a distinction between different kinds of usb devices... i have a computer that has boot options for different kinds of usb devices, even though they should all reallly be the same
[10:13] <oo7> i manually recreated it
[10:13] <kelsin> illriginal:  and since irssi is in gnome terminal, here too 
[10:13] <whazilla> how do i install Qt >= 3.3 ?
[10:13] <Markok765> cogeno: it was a gameboy advance sp mp3 player
[10:13] <arrenlex> whazilla: apt-get install libqt3-mt
[10:14] <oo7> with with out the UID numbers, i used the /dev/ location
[10:14] <factotum> wondeful, i get to whipe the hard drive all over again, again.
[10:14] <Jvik> When i start up computer the content in desktop is gone and wallpaper is gone and when i try to enter places -> Desktop i get the error "Can't open file:///home/jvik/Desktop" "There is no act associated to this location" I have norwegian ubuntu, so i transelated it myself. What the heck can be wrong? :\ I get the same message when i try to enter my harddrives.
[10:14] <cedric30> riotkittie: it's come from my PC crash and now all is very long to start someone tell my it's come from my system file and I have to format ....
[10:14] <arrenlex> whazilla: Or are you compiling a QT app? If so, apt-get install install kdelibs4-dev
[10:14] <Coffeegrindah> eck: yeah .. my laptop at work treat my USB HDD as a SCSI external, my flash drive as a flash drive, both work fine their though .. I was hoping .. meh .. of well I only need it when I'm at work anyway
[10:14] <cedric30> riotkittie: but I can't save all my partition
[10:15] <whazilla> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:15] <whazilla> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[10:15] <arrenlex> whazilla: (14:14:30) arrenlex: whazilla: Or are you compiling a QT app? If so, apt-get install install kdelibs4-dev
[10:15] <illriginal> kelsin ctrl +shift (held down together) then press F then 1?
[10:15] <Jvik> When i start up computer the content in desktop is gone and wallpaper is gone and when i try to enter places -> Desktop i get the error "Can't open file:///home/jvik/Desktop" "There is no act associated to this location" I have norwegian ubuntu, so i transelated it myself. What the heck can be wrong? :\ I get the same message when i try to enter my harddrives.
[10:15] <Flannel> !repeat | Jvik
[10:15] <ubotu> Jvik: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:15] <WarDog> hi
[10:15] <joshjosh> What do you guys think of Epiphany now?
[10:15] <riotkittie> cedric30: formatting seems drastic. if you are outside of X, like in console, is it slow there as well?
[10:15] <kelsin> illriginal: hold down ctrl+shirt while you press f, then 1, the let go of ctrl+shift
[10:15] <Coffeegrindah> eck: thanks anyways I'm off to work
[10:15] <cedric30> riotkittie: in console no
[10:16] <jexdawg> arrenlex: thanks a lot. you've got my problems completely solved, :)
[10:16] <illriginal> Nah doesn't work for some odd reason.
[10:16] <cedric30> riotkittie: just for some graphic application
[10:16] <whazilla> BOLABO-007:~/kommander/quanta-3.1.2-kde30$ sudo apt-get install install kdelibs4-dev
[10:16] <whazilla>  ... could not find packet
[10:16] <arrenlex> jexdawg: yw. Don't be mean to mplayer. It's fantastic.
[10:16] <WarDog> anyone here tried the alternate installer cd of feisty herd 5?
[10:16] <meatmanek> k, I'm trying to find a distro to recommend to a friend who wants to try linux. Does Ubuntu's installer allow easy partition resizing?
[10:16] <whazilla> arrenlex:  could not find packet
[10:16] <kelsin> illriginal: http://www.pthree.org/2006/11/30/its-unicode-baby/
[10:16] <mc44> WarDog: try in #ubuntu+1
[10:16] <arrenlex> !kdelibs4-dev | whazilla
[10:16] <kelsin> illriginal: you can try that too,  is U00F1
[10:16] <illriginal> it says U+00F1
[10:16] <ubotu> whazilla: kdelibs4-dev: development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 7468 kB
[10:17] <Ferret> meatmanek: All the linux distros with graphical installers likely have gparted on them
[10:17] <WarDog> cause i got a big problem with the partitioner... problem is: wont work
[10:17] <illriginal> how do i do that?
[10:17] <Markok765> with the magic of rape
[10:17] <PocketIRC> !patience
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <Jowi> meatmanek, yes. but resizing is always risky no matter which utility you use.
[10:17] <Ferret> !ohmy > Markok765
[10:18] <illriginal> kelsin i dunno how to use U00F1
[10:18] <cedric30> Someone know how could I repair my system files after a Crash
[10:18] <cedric30> ?
[10:18] <illriginal> ack im just gonna have to open up character map, then drag it i guess.
[10:18] <Mark17> hello
[10:18] <Markok765> Ferret: was that really nassacary?
[10:18] <Markok765> !ohmy
[10:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:18] <whazilla> arrenlex:  i checked with Synaptec its already intsalled but apt dont find it ? o_0 :$
[10:18] <Ferret> Markok765: Yes.
[10:18] <kelsin> illriginal: http://www.pthree.org/2006/11/30/its-unicode-baby/ <- that site has a nother method of typing unicode, if my first method (works for me on debian etch) doesn't work, and that web site doesn't work I don't know what to tell you
[10:18] <Markok765> !ohmy
[10:18] <Markok765> !ohmy
[10:18] <Markok765> !ohmy
[10:18] <jexdawg> arrenlex, when i told you everything was good before, i was, once again, lying. haha oops. everything works fine now, but why is the quality so bad? its awful... all pixelated and whatnot. (i'm running beryl - this may be impacting it). any ideas?
[10:18] <Markok765> !ohmy
[10:18] <mc44> !ops
[10:18] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:19] <illriginal> ok thanks kelsin!
[10:19] <Mark17> is there a list so i can see what proces is pulling up a warning message?
[10:19] <Ferret> Markok765: You didn't think that would work, did you?
[10:19] <arrenlex> jexdawg: Pixellated? Could you take a screenshot?
[10:19] <oo7> fstab worked
[10:19] <oo7> :)
[10:19] <Markok765> sorry everyone
[10:19] <Ferret> Mark17: Depends what kind of warning message, and where you're seeing it.
[10:19] <Markok765> Ferret: i thought it would work
[10:19] <Mark17> !Warning Azureus did not shutdown tidily....... (i need to close this but i can't close it normally)
[10:20] <chiNese_chaTTer> Hi there! I can't get the ubuntu-live-cd started
[10:20] <Mark17> Ferret: on my desktop (ubuntu)
[10:20] <oo7> Mark17, go to the About window in Azureus, then try to "hide" that warning
[10:20] <blockcipher> ps aux  .... then do kill <process id>
[10:20] <K3nto> Mark17: one-word keywords are usuall best
[10:20] <WarDog> chiNese_chaTTer how do you try to start it?
[10:20] <chiNese_chaTTer> Can anybody help me? It's crashing at the beginning, when the irqs are assigned
[10:20] <Markok765> chiNese_chaTTer: did you setup your bois to boot from cd?
[10:20] <whazilla> arrenlex:
[10:20] <illriginal> aha
[10:20] <khermans_> chiNese_chaTTer, try kernel options
[10:20] <whazilla> #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 303)
[10:20] <whazilla> #error 1
[10:20] <whazilla> #endif
[10:20] <illriginal> 
[10:20] <whazilla> what version should i use ?
[10:20] <illriginal> woot
[10:20] <apokryphos> ergh
[10:21] <illriginal> thanks kelsin.
[10:21] <khermans_> chiNese_chaTTer, noapic noacpi apic=off acpi=off
[10:21] <lorenz> hello, can someone tell me how to mount my usb harddisk with ntfs-3g?
[10:21] <arrenlex> whazilla: Is the libqt3-mt-dev package installed?
[10:21] <MaartenLx> Heh, I love Midnight Commander! Reminds me of the good old days of DOS
[10:21] <kelsin> illriginal: np
[10:21] <whazilla> arrenlex:  yes
[10:22] <arrenlex> whazilla: And build-essential is installed?
[10:22] <chiNese_chaTTer> Hmm, ok thx. But I think I've tried that some months ago with the kororaa-live-cd and it didn't work either. There's no known problem with the Asus A7N8X-Deluxe, is there?
[10:22] <WarDog> ok, can anyone tell my why the feisty herd 5 alternate installer crashes when you try to use a NOT guieded partitioning mehtod? and: is there a workaround?
[10:22] <khermans_> i am offering 30 minutes of support for $30 via phone, priv msg me
[10:22] <lorenz> hello, can someone tell me how to mount my usb harddisk with ntfs-3g?
[10:22] <Jowi> WarDog, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[10:22] <Ferret> khermans_: No advertising in this channel please
[10:22] <WarDog> oh sry
[10:23] <cogeno> Jesus christ, here's a mouthful
[10:23] <keir_> anyone here good at setting up ubuntu and beryl on ati cards?
[10:23] <whazilla> arrenlex:  yes
[10:23] <khermans_> Ferret, i was obviously joking
[10:23] <Ferret> Obviously
[10:23] <arrenlex> whazilla: Dunno, then. Sorry...
[10:23] <whazilla> :$
[10:23] <cogeno> Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
[10:23] <lorenz> @keir_: did you try the wiki method?
[10:23] <riotkittie> can someone tell me why my alpha software is acting like alpha software? :x
[10:23] <Msword> quick question, what is a good windows free .iso converter?
[10:23] <keir_> yup
[10:23] <keir_> lol
[10:23] <oo7> he was obviously joking, but really, /msg me
[10:23] <keir_> and various other way's
[10:23] <MaartenLx> msword: poweriso?
[10:23] <mc44> riotkittie: because early adopters deserve to suffer
[10:23] <MaartenLx> not sure if thats free though
[10:24] <Ferret> lorenz: It should just be as easy as -- install ntfs-3g and fuse, add a line to fstab that's the same as a normal vfat/ntfs type line except with 'ntfs-3g' as the filesystem
[10:24] <keir_> but i'm new to linux so really wanted someon eno msn or something that could talk me thru it
[10:24] <riotkittie> mc44: that's the spirit!
[10:24] <khermans_> lorenz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g
[10:24] <jexdawg> arrenlex: nevermind - i think it was just the video i was watching was naturally bad quality.... is there a reason, however, that mplayer doesn't have volume controls?
[10:24] <kelsin> Msword: Daemon tool sis a free windows program that will "add" a fake cdrom drive to your computer and let you mount a iso
[10:24] <lorenz> thanks hermans and ferret
[10:24] <Msword> poweriso costs money
[10:24] <lorenz> @keir_: I heard this helped many people http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[10:24] <arrenlex> jexdawg: No, that it doesn't. But your operating system has volume controls.
[10:24] <Ferret> Mark17: What's the error message?
[10:24] <Msword> god, i just used one yesterday for the installation cd
[10:24] <Marupa> How would I go about installing my Mustek 600 III EP Plus flatbed scanner?
[10:24] <Msword> grr
[10:25] <lorenz> @keir_: I never got it to work though ;)
[10:25] <keir_> lol thats the last one i tried
[10:25] <riotkittie> gahh. i want extended desktop in linux. so very very much. :<
[10:25] <keir_> i'm in the XGL session now and when i drag windows etc they are jerky but in the gnome session they are smooth
[10:25] <Ferret> lorenz: I set up tfs-3g today and it literally was one command and 3 letters added to fstab.  I suggest you give it a go :)
[10:25] <Ferret> +n
[10:25] <Mark17> azureus did not shutdown tidily. check /home/username/.azureus/logs/save for diagnostic log files and consider reporting them to the azureus team
[10:26] <lorenz> ferret, I am pretty new to all that, I don't know what fstab means?
[10:26] <khermans_> lorenz, /etc/fstab
[10:26] <lorenz> all the tutorials I read describe how to mount a partition, I need to do it with an usb drive
[10:26] <leeba> I am having a heck of a time to set up a server using ubuntu 6.1
[10:26] <Msword> infra recorder
[10:26] <Msword> found it
[10:26] <Msword> thanks
[10:26] <MaartenLx> brrr.... azureus is a resource hogging piece of (%badword) - use uTorrent, its slick, fast, and not eating up memory :)
[10:27] <leeba> i have successfully set up the server ubuntu 6.1
[10:27] <khermans_> MaartenLx, or rtorrent
[10:27] <kelsin> !fstab | lorenz
[10:27] <ubotu> lorenz: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:27] <leeba> andhave LAMPP
[10:27] <Imaginati> hello
[10:27] <joshjosh> utorrent for linux? what?
[10:27] <leeba> hi
[10:27] <crowdeer> hello
[10:27] <leeba> hello
[10:27] <arrenlex> !hi
[10:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:27] <mc44> joshjosh: through wine
[10:27] <khermans_> joshjosh, wine utorrent.exe
[10:27] <crowdeer> need help with ubuntu'
[10:27] <leeba> thanks
[10:27] <MaartenLx> well thats for windows actually :P
[10:27] <leeba> yesyesyes
[10:27] <riotkittie> mount  a partition on a usb drive? or mount a ntfs partition on a usb drive rw?
[10:27] <joshjosh> wouldn't that slow it down?
[10:28] <joshjosh> crowdeer: What do you need?
[10:28] <n-iCe> !es
[10:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:28] <crowdeer> I just installed and cant get my dial up modem to work
[10:28] <lorenz> mount an usb drive that is in the ntfs format
[10:28] <lorenz> I want to save my data on it, but cannot write on it
[10:28] <matej> what i must install to play sound when i go over the icon of mp3 file?
[10:28] <leeba> i have ubuntu6.1 server set up and chose LAMPP
[10:28] <joshjosh> crowdeer: what kind of modem is it?
[10:28] <kelsin> joshjosh: wine does emulate windows, it adds the windows api, if a program works in wine, it normally runs fine (I play war3 and wow in wine all the time)
[10:28] <crowdeer> lucent on my ibm laptop
[10:28] <leeba> but I need to add gui since i am not too well versed in command line
[10:28] <joshjosh> crowdeer: go to terminal and type lspci and see if you can see it in there somewhere
[10:28] <Marupa> matej, use ESD.
[10:28] <leeba> how do I do that?
[10:29] <joshjosh> kelsin: I know all about wine. But I was thinking it'd be kinda laggy. I dunno
[10:29] <matej> Marupa, i have selected it, but nothing
[10:29] <urgit> hi, I'm trying to compile usb-rndis-lite in ubuntu dapper but I get some errors, someone can help me
[10:29] <kelsin> leeba: if you want the FULL gui: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <Marupa> matej:  Is your soundcard in use?
[10:29] <crowdeer> ok josh where is terminal I am a newbie here'
[10:29] <matej> Marupa, and i have hardware mixing enabled card
[10:29] <Marupa> So do I, but linux doesn't use it.
[10:29] <Ferret> lorenz: A USB drive with NTFS on it?  Unusual...
[10:29] <leeba> so type in sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:30] <joshjosh> applications> accessories> terminal
[10:30] <kelsin> leeba: that will install the normal ubuntu desktop yep :)
[10:30] <riotkittie> lorenz: ok, youre going to need to set up ntfs-3g to enable read write to ntfs ...  or use the fat32 sys, or a linux friendly fs. ntfs3g is probably the better option but writing to ntfs from linux is still considered beta, and you risk data loss.
[10:30] <crowdeer> ok brb will look
[10:30] <leeba> kelsin: i am not having any luck with the command to add my ip info
[10:30] <Ferret> lorenz: Anyhow, if you look on the wiki or the forums for instructions for a normal USB pen drive (which will probably use vfat as the filesystem type), you should be able to follow them almost completely, except specify ntfs-3g as the type
[10:30] <joshjosh> how hard is it to set up WoW in Wine btw?
[10:30] <leeba> to get on line to add that desktop
[10:30] <matej> Marupa, btw, do i have to install alsa-utils? Couse i have sound without it?
[10:31] <arrenlex> !wow | joshjosh
[10:31] <ubotu> joshjosh: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:31] <lorenz> thank you ferret, will do
[10:31] <kelsin> joshjosh: with new wine (> 9.28) easy, runs out of the box (at least did for me)
[10:31] <Marupa> matej = If you use ESD and only ESD, everything should be fine.
[10:31] <joshjosh> kelsin: awesome. i'll have to check it out
[10:31] <lorenz> thanks too riotkittie as well - unfortunately I'll have to use that ntfs hard disk
[10:31] <leeba> This is a great place to find!!!
[10:31] <crowdeer> ok it shows an LT winModem
[10:31] <kelsin> joshjosh: I copied over my windows install and ran it, make sure to use the -opengl flag or set opengl in your wow config file, just look up the game on winehq.com in the appdb, lots of info there
[10:32] <leeba> i set up a root username and password asl well.
[10:32] <crowdeer> josh also has ethernet controller which I am using right now
[10:35] <leeba> when I first login, what command do I put in to add my infomation to connect on line?
[10:35] <crowdeer> I lost Josh
[10:35] <crowdeer> can anybody else help me with dial up modem
[10:36] <riotkittie> not me. i havent seen a modem in years. :P
[10:36] <riotkittie> though i should buy a pcmcia modem card for my laptop, just in case. on the other hand, i dont have a phone line. heh.
[10:37] <arrenlex> Marupa: What brand?
[10:37] <Marupa> arrenlex, Mustek.
[10:37] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer
[10:37] <arrenlex> Marupa: Isn't that a large animal used to pull carts?
[10:37] <wastedtime> an suggestions
[10:37] <Marupa> arrenlex, Har har.
[10:38] <Jowi> leeba, depends on your connection. "sudo pppoeconf" can be used to configure pppoe/pppoa dsl connections. "sudo network-admin" for general connection options.
[10:39] <Jowi> !dsl | leeba
[10:39] <ubotu> leeba: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:39] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer..any suggestions ??
[10:39] <crowdeer> are there any techs in here
[10:39] <gleaken> attempting to upgrade to edgy from dapper installation and upgrade-manager -c does not show upgrade button, any suggestions?  Tried reinstalling vte stuff and got nowhere.  There is no error with apt and I even tried disabling all other repositories
[10:40] <Jowi> wastedtime, 945GM is a bit special. not sure with live cd. the package 915resolution need to be installed and you need to use the i810 driver for xorg
[10:40] <GekiPink> Hey all <3
[10:41] <wastedtime> i did actually
[10:41] <wastedtime> still does not seem to work
[10:41] <crowdeer> need help configuring dial up with modem
[10:41] <Jowi> wastedtime, for 915resolution to work a reboot is required (at least for me) that's why I'm unsure how it works with the live cd.
[10:41] <GekiPink> I just booted into a Feisty Herd 5 virtual machine... It's so pretty.
[10:41] <wastedtime> oh
[10:42] <lu-bao> is it normal in xchat-gnome that i cant see users list on right side that its just hided and i cant open it?
[10:42] <oo7> a reboot is rarely required only for a new kernel
[10:42] <fjardt> Where is my Xconfig located?
[10:42] <rlevitin> how do i find which directory holds the C header files that match my running kernel?
[10:42] <lu-bao> omg....
[10:42] <oo7> there's a command that is added to your startup, if you run it, there's no need to reboot
[10:42] <oo7> rlevitin, vmware related?
[10:42] <rlevitin> yes
[10:42] <lu-bao> is it normal in xchat-gnome that i cant see users list on right side that its just hided and i cant open it?
[10:42] <oo7> fjardt, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:43] <Jowi> wastedtime, I was limited to 1024x768 before the reboot.
[10:43] <fjardt> oo7: thanks
[10:43] <oo7> past me in a /msg the error
[10:43] <GekiPink> I haven't been on Ubuntu in ages... it stopped letting me install new versions after... 5.10.
[10:43] <a5c> I have a quick question, I used wget to download a ubuntu iso, but it split it into many pieces "ubuntu.1 ubuntu.1.1 etc." how would I join them? You don't have to answer, I can just go elsewhere.
[10:43] <rlevitin> oo7: im trying to install vmware... but i dunno where my C header files for my kernel are
[10:44] <oo7> it's asking you, right?  then it has a default in []  brackets?
[10:44] <Jowi> fjardt, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is what you're looking for?
[10:44] <Jowi> fjardt, sorry, didn't see oo7 answer
[10:44] <rlevitin> oo7: yeah but that folder is empty
[10:44] <oo7> what is the folder?  and what are the results of "uname -a"
[10:44] <happyface0> guys, should nvidia-xconfig be available once nvidia drivers are installed?
[10:44] <oo7> a5c, that's weird, what wget command did you use?
[10:45] <Jowi> !find nvidia-xconfig
[10:45] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-xconfig
[10:45] <a5c> just wget 'http:// ... "
[10:45] <fjardt> Jowi: is there a way to get the default xorg.conf that ubuntu comes with? when i booted up this morning everything was funky
[10:45] <a5c> of course with an actual link
[10:45] <oo7> it shouldn't split up, sometimes what happens is, if you DL the exact same file twice, the second file will have a .1 appended
[10:45] <oo7> does that sound familar?
[10:45] <gio> italy
[10:45] <rlevitin> oo7: /usr/src/linux/include is the folder, "Linux rlevitin-desktop 2.6.15-28-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 16:14:07 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" is the uname -a
[10:46] <Jowi> fjardt, not if you didn't back it up. but you can rerun the setup with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:46] <fjardt> Jowi: ok, thanks
[10:46] <a5c> no what happend is it reconnected in the middle and put the new connection in a new file
[10:46] <riotkittie> I want to play with Beryl :( ... which brings me to my Next Really Stupid Question!
[10:46] <Marupa> riotkittie, Shoot!
[10:47] <Jowi> happyface0, to answer the question you need to install the "nvidia-xconfig" package
[10:47] <rlevitin> oo7: i probably just need to download the src files for my kernel right?
[10:47] <oo7> try : /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-686/include
[10:47] <fjardt> Does this look like a video card? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 (rev dc)
[10:48] <Marupa> fjardt, Yes.
[10:48] <Jowi> happyface0, think it's in the universe repo
[10:48] <a5c> I have a 30mb file a  500mb one and a 97mb one, I just want to combine them to get the 700mb one i'm looking for. I just don't know how
[10:48] <brit> Hi people
[10:48] <Hasrat_USA> what's up brit
[10:49] <rlevitin> oo7: no luck
[10:49] <Marupa> a5c, what are they?
[10:49] <oo7> a5c: you can try: cat file1 > newfile.iso && cat file2>> newfile.iso && cat file3 >> newfile.iso
[10:49] <brit> Not much. I have a question that can be considered noobish but:
[10:49] <oo7> if they are like you say they are, that should work
[10:49] <Marupa> a5c, Hard to tell what to do if you don't tell us what type of files.
[10:49] <Hasrat_USA> brit: but?
[10:50] <a5c> They are .iso .iso.1 .iso.1.1
[10:50] <Marupa> Any ideas for my Mustek Scanner?
[10:50] <brit> Is there any way to choose a different default audio player for Ubuntu Feisty. I dislike Rhythmbox
[10:50] <a5c> brit: banshee
[10:50] <Marupa> a5c, Yes, as oo7 said, cat them together.
[10:50] <a5c> okay thanks
[10:50] <cedric30> Someone could look my errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/
[10:50] <cedric30> ?
[10:50] <ompaul> cube3|ZZz, so don't use nick changes here thanks
[10:50] <Hasrat_USA> I do the same. my favourite is XMMS
[10:50] <Jowi> fjardt, that card should use the standard "ati" driver.
[10:50] <rlevitin> oo7: there is no include directory at /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-686, and putting in that directory says it doesn't have an expected "linux" folder
[10:50] <apokryphos> ubotu: players
[10:50] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:51] <brit> banshee is what I want to set as my default, but with my ky shortcut, RB opens up
[10:51] <brit> There was a thread on the forum about it, but it dead ended
[10:52] <BigMac> Is there a batch conversion software for ubuntu that when I select a directory, it will add all images in that directory and subdirectories, copy over the original ones and be able to resize them all to like 100x100
[10:52] <lorenz> hello, how can I check what kernel I use? is there a command?
[10:52] <Jowi> lorenz, uname -a
[10:52] <Whatsisname> BigMac, you could write a shell script to do that
[10:52] <Whatsisname> lorenz, uname -a or cat /proc/version
[10:52] <wastedtime> hi , i am trying to use a kubuntu live cd on an intel 945 Gm , i reconfigure xserver .. and the screen loads up....and i get a blank screen with a pointer..any suggestions ??
[10:53] <lorenz> thank you.
[10:53] <apokryphos> BigMac: 'kim' in KDE has this, but I don't know about gnome. Otherwise just use find with -exec or a loop.
[10:53] <BigMac> I am not experiences enough to do that Whatsisname
[10:53] <exs> anyone using feisty?.. if so, do you like it?
[10:53] <Whatsisname> then its time to learn
[10:53] <brit> Love it
[10:53] <brit> But then again, I'm not quite the reviewer you want for that question
[10:53] <apokryphos> BigMac: you don't really need experience; just one command.
[10:54] <BigMac> apokryphos: Well what would that command be
[10:54] <BigMac> I would look it up
[10:54] <cube3|ZZz> Ubuntu says no to non-free video drivers for Feisty
[10:55] <BigMac> but I have like a half hour to get all of these resized and load them into my photobucket
[10:55] <brit> Ubuntu says no to non-free EVERYTHING
[10:55] <brit> lolz
[10:55] <cedric30> Someone could look my errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/
[10:55] <cedric30> Someone could look my errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/
[10:55] <cedric30> ?
[10:55] <Jowi> brb
[10:55] <Whatsisname> write a shell script that would find all images in a particular directory using the find command, then copy them in whatever way you want, then use imagemagick to resize them
[10:55] <apokryphos> BigMac: (i) cd to the directory you want to be in, then (ii) find . -iname "*.jpg" -exec convert -resize SOMENUMBER% {} {} \;
[10:56] <apokryphos> BigMac: NOTE: that command is *recursive*. It will resize ALL images in subdirectories to SOMENUMBER percentage
[10:56] <Whatsisname> and it wont copy them
[10:56] <BigMac> apokryphos: so if I wanted to resize all the bmps too 100x100
[10:57] <BigMac> what would I input into that command
[10:57] <downdown> Hi!!!
[10:57] <dabone> Quick question on mapped network drives.. How to I prevent them from showing on the desktop?
[10:58] <apokryphos> BigMac: like the above, but without the percent, instead with a !
[10:58] <Whatsisname> apokryphos, wont your command overwrite all the images
[10:58] <andre_> No non-free software in UBUNTU PLEASE.
[10:58] <apokryphos> BigMac: so: find . -iname "*.jpg" -exec convert -resize 100x100! {} {} \;
[10:58] <Whatsisname> yes, fuck non-free software
[10:58] <apokryphos> Whatsisname: yes, that's the aim. Resizing them.
[10:58] <cedric30> I have a HD problem  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/ ?
[10:59] <apokryphos> !ohmy | Whatsisname
[10:59] <ubotu> Whatsisname: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:59] <BigMac> ah thank you I will try this
[10:59] <apokryphos> !philosophy | andre_
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about philosophy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <apokryphos> geh
[10:59] <BigMac> and it will overwrite the file that it resized in each directory
[10:59] <eyalw> hi, planning on buying a 2 dual core Dell notebook. read i need to install something to get advantage of the Duo???
[10:59] <Whatsisname> apokryphos, oh i see I suppose, I was thinking he meant to duplicate them with resized images
[10:59] <andre_> apkryphos hehe
[10:59] <apokryphos> andre_: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy
[10:59] <Whatsisname> eyalw, you'll need an SMP kernel and not much else I would think but I'm not sure
[10:59] <zapradon> hello
[11:00] <eyalw> Whatsisname: what is an SMP Kernal ?
[11:00] <apokryphos> BigMac: yes. In each subdirectory as well, so be careful :)
[11:00] <Marupa> How do I check to see if my parallel port is working?
[11:00] <Whatsisname> symmetric multi processing
[11:00] <cedric30> Someone has 30s to give me a hand ?
[11:00] <cris> hi i need some help with the gimp
[11:00] <Whatsisname> bsically a kernel that can take advantage of multiple logical processors
[11:01] <Marupa> cris:  Tried their channel?
[11:01] <zapradon> would an nvidia 6800 be considered a 'legacy' card?
[11:01] <cris> they have one?
[11:01] <eshaase> i'm using edgy and i need *one* package from feisty. i'm assuming that adding a feisty repos to my sources.list is the recommended approach and if so does ubuntu support debian's pinning mechanism?
[11:01] <ompaul> cedric30, you need to say what you want help with
[11:01] <Marupa> cris, Last I checked.
[11:01] <Whatsisname> zapradon, I wouldn't think so
[11:01] <apokryphos> ubotu: philosophy is <alias> free
[11:01] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[11:01] <cedric30> ompaul: I have a disk problem  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/
[11:01] <BigMac> alright because the srtucture is lik e/music/artist/album/cover.bmp and there are hundreds of folders in that structure all named cover.bmp
[11:01] <zapradon> glx doesn't seem to want to 'take' :P
[11:01] <eyalw> Whatsisname: ???
[11:01] <brit> Ubotu is a bot?
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <cris> yeah they have ^^
[11:01] <cedric30> ompaul: and I search to repair it
[11:01] <Whatsisname> eyalw, what
[11:02] <Marupa> zapradon, Are you sure?  Tried glxgears?
[11:02] <matej> is there someone with working cedega 5.2.3?
[11:02] <jin> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <zapradon> when I enable it it says it can't find glx extensions
[11:02] <User769> can someone help me install lamp
[11:02] <gyaresu> eyalw: You just need a 'generic' kernel e.g. latest edgy package is linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic you find out what your kernel is my typing the command 'uname -a' in a terminal.
[11:02] <gleaken> anybody willing to help with a dapper to edgy upgrade?  I am trying to upgrade the official way and I am not getting the option to upgrade
[11:03] <ompaul> cedric30, no idea whatso ever - looks like bad ram - maybe memcheck86+ could be run
[11:03] <grayman> the GUI way?
[11:03] <gleaken> grayman: yes
[11:03] <gleaken> grayman: update-manager -c
[11:03] <zapradon> k, I'll try that one!
[11:03] <zapradon> thanks
[11:03] <grayman> you can do it manualy
[11:03] <BigMac> apokryphos: it said find: convert: No such file or directory about 150 times
[11:03] <cedric30> ompaul: I think it's a disk problelm
[11:03] <BigMac> then stopped
[11:03] <gleaken> grayman: no button saying that there is an upgrade shows up
[11:03] <MaartenLx> Hmmm.... I got something weird.... I can no longer change the KDE background in Kubuntu. Whatever I try, the background I selected yesterday (one of the default ones) sticks. Rebooting does not help a bit, I just did ;)
[11:03] <BigMac> does that mean it worked
[11:04] <MaartenLx> Anyone any idea?
[11:04] <tesuki_> can some one help me with gedit? is there a inbuildt function or do i need a plugin to have a "project manager" so I can save which document I had opened?
[11:04] <Whatsisname> zapradon, red this http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/appendix-a.html
[11:04] <Whatsisname> *read this
[11:04] <apokryphos> BigMac: sorry, change jpg to bmp
[11:04] <gleaken> grayman: I am trying to figure out why I wouldn't get the upgrade message.  I used it on another machine with no problems
[11:04] <BigMac> I did
[11:04] <User769> is it easier to install ubuntu server edition or desktop editiion and then install lamp
[11:04] <grayman> i didn't get it too when i upgraded
[11:04] <MaartenLx> I can't even change it to "no picture".
[11:04] <grayman> the other ay is not to hard
[11:05] <gleaken> grayman: I have all of the sources setup to point to official sources, disabled all 3rd party sources, still no luck
[11:05] <bimberi> User769: The server cd has a lamp install option at the boot menu!
[11:05] <gyaresu> User769: Are you wanting to just host your own site?
[11:05] <User769> i know but i also want the desktop gui
[11:05] <apokryphos> BigMac: show me the exact command you're typing
[11:05] <cedric30> Whatsisname: I have a problem at the start of gnome it's very long, it 's came from when my PC crash and I shut down it bad  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8680/
[11:05] <MaartenLx> Even setting the defaults does not work....
[11:05] <BigMac> apokryphos: http://rafb.net/p/GU4hOL59.html
[11:05] <MaartenLx> No one with any idea?
[11:06] <majd> Hey, sshfs won't let me mound unless i'm in sudo, but if i do, then i can't access the mount unless i'm in sudo either...the site says preferably not to mount as sudo, but that doesn't seem possible
[11:06] <n2ob> hey, what's the best way to run photoshop in linux?
[11:06] <bimberi> User769: hm, i'd go server then install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage from there
[11:06] <Whatsisname> cedric30, looks like your harddisk isn't doing so great
[11:06] <gyaresu> User769: So yeah you could just install it as a desktop and then add the packages for apache etc. You may be interested in http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server there are others on there as well.
[11:07] <Whatsisname> do a filesystem check on hdc and hope it fixes it
[11:07] <apokryphos> BigMac: are you sure you've got imagemagick installed?
[11:07] <cedric30> Whatsisname: i have try 5 times a fsck at the start
[11:07] <eshaase> is debian's pinning mechanism the way to go to handle a system with packages from multiple releases?
[11:07] <gyaresu> User769: Depends on exactly what you want to acheive but if you're just having a play then go for it.
[11:07] <Whatsisname> majd, sshfs uses fuse, and should never require root priveledges
[11:07] <Whatsisname> majd, make sure fuse is installed and configured properly
[11:07] <cedric30> Whatsisname: ant it had correct some errors but it's ever the same problem
[11:08] <majd> Whatsisname, this is the command i'm using if it explains anything:  sshfs majd@192.168.1.104: /media/emachines/
[11:08] <bimberi> User769: that said, it will be less downloading to install a desktop and set up lamp from there.  So it depends what's more of an issue to you, easy setup or less download :)
[11:08] <majd> Whatsisname, that won't work unless i have a sudo before it
[11:08] <Whatsisname> majd, make sure your user is in the fuse group
[11:08] <Whatsisname> then logoff and log back in
[11:09] <majd> Whatsisname, the user on the server where i'm connecting to?
[11:09] <Whatsisname> cedric30, I don't know what to tell you
[11:09] <riaal> anyone have any sugestion of "cool" or usefull programs for ubuntu? (new to this)
[11:09] <andy05> im trying to install lamp on ubuntu with the desktop GUI whats the easiest way to do that
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> riaal: what type of stuff do you do?
[11:09] <Whatsisname> majd, the user attempted to use the fuse filesystem (sshfs), so whatever user is trying to run sshfs
[11:09] <majd> andy05, XAMPP
[11:09] <Whatsisname> *attempting
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> andy05: what type of programs did you have in mind?  for instance, what do you see lacking
[11:10] <cedric30> Whatsisname: reinstall all ...........
[11:10] <andy05> php5 apache mysql
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> cedric30: lol
[11:10] <riaal> IndyGunFreak,  well, all from programing to animating but I was thinking simple usefull stuff.. that you use everyday? do you have any favourit programs?
[11:11] <Whatsisname> cedric30, is your drive hdc mission critical
[11:11] <andy05> i have ubuntu desktop right now
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> riaal: yeah, but i don't do programming or animating.
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> riaal: i have favorite utilities,
[11:11] <cedric30> Whatsisname: I think
[11:11] <riaal> IndyGunFreak, yeh. fill me in =)
[11:11] <Whatsisname> whats on it
[11:11] <andy05> i could install server edition if it is easier
[11:11] <gyaresu> !offtopic riaal
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic riaal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <gyaresu> !offtopic | riaal
[11:11] <ubotu> riaal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:11] <Munchkinguy> Is there a mirror for http://people.ubuntu.com/ ? I can't access it
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> xmms for music, VLC for video, Gnomebaker for burning disks
[11:12] <riaal> gyaresu, oh, had no ide of that, cheers
[11:12] <Doddman> Can someone help me install zsnes in ubuntu?
[11:12] <brit> has anyone come up with a solution to my problem? I don't mind asking again
[11:12] <Whatsisname> Doddman, apt-get doesnt cut it?
[11:12] <Doddman> no
[11:12] <gyaresu> riaal: s'aight.
[11:12] <PhantomNJ> running Edgy Eft, trying to add radio stations to Listen and having no luck, is there anyone here who can assist?
[11:12] <Whatsisname> what fails
[11:12] <Doddman> it says package not found
[11:13] <Doddman> so I downloaded the source tarball
[11:13] <Whatsisname> have you made sure you have the right repositories
[11:13] <riaal> IndyGunFreak, gnomebaker sounds cool I use to use K3b but gb is better you think?
[11:13] <Whatsisname> no k3b is better
[11:13] <Doddman> updated all of SDL (because that's all it was having problems with)
[11:13] <james296> can someone tell me how to remove folders that are in the Gnome menu editor on the left hand side?
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> riaal: its 6 on one hand, half dozen on the other to me... either one is fine.
[11:13] <Doddman> and when I installed
[11:13] <Doddman> ./configure, then make
[11:13] <Doddman> it said it installed to /usr/local/bin
[11:14] <Whatsisname> make should not install it anywhere, make install on the other hand would
[11:14] <Doddman> but there is no zsnes in /usr/local/bin, nor in /usr/bin, nor in /usr/games
[11:14] <riaal> IndyGunFreak, cool, any sugestions to application for overlooking cpu and network usage?
[11:14] <Doddman> aah
[11:14] <james296> excuse me
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> riaal: sorry.. nope
[11:14] <shevek_>  #Kaixo
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: zsnes is in the repos.
[11:14] <lgc> Hi! How can I start my ubuntu without the graphical session?
[11:14] <BigMac> apokryphos: no you never told me to install it
[11:14] <PhantomNJ> anyone here using Listen for streaming internet radio?
[11:14] <minimec> brit: So why don't you change your key shortcut ;) with gnome-keybinding-properties?
[11:15] <Doddman> nevermind
[11:15] <Doddman> thank you
[11:15] <koper> Today when I turned on my computer something had changed. For example if I have a chat window up and click Firefox, the chat window is still on top, I have to click the titlebar to get a window ontop of the other. And that's for all windows. I haven't changed anything though..?
[11:15] <apokryphos> BigMac: I actually presumed Ubuntu had it on a default install, actually.
[11:15] <Doddman> sudo make install worked just fine
[11:15] <Whatsisname> so does it work now
[11:15] <Doddman> now it's in /usr/local/bin
[11:15] <apokryphos> BigMac: nevermind; install it and it should work.
[11:15] <brit> It opens RB and won't work in anything else becuase RB sucks all my shortcuts up
[11:15] <BigMac> apokryphos: ok installing right now
[11:16] <lgc> Flannel, you there?
[11:16] <BigMac> apokryphos: how do I know it is done
[11:16] <minimec> brit you can also change the settings in the file-properties of nautilus.
[11:17] <apokryphos> BigMac: the command? It will return to the prompt
[11:17] <MaartenLx> Hmmm.... I got something weird.... I can no longer change the KDE background in Kubuntu. Whatever I try, the background I selected yesterday (one of the default ones) sticks. Rebooting does not help a bit, I just did ;)
[11:17] <MaartenLx> Anyone any idea?
[11:17] <sean> Hm, link to MS fonts for ubuntu?
[11:17] <Whatsisname> rebooting is almost always uncessary for GNU/Linux machines
[11:18] <Whatsisname> for anything besides a new kernel
[11:18] <lgc> Flannel, cables, ardchoille, how can I start my ubuntu without the graphical session? Anyone?
[11:18] <Marupa> I went searching for parport0 on my system, and it doesn't exist...what's going on?
[11:18] <Whatsisname> lgc, you want the easy way or the hard way
[11:18] <brit> I tried, that, but it only works if I double click the file. I have an Alt+' shortcut that I want to open Banshee, but RB pops up
[11:18] <MaartenLx> either way, i'm trying to fix this ;)
[11:18] <cables> lgc, why are you asking me specifically?
[11:18] <riqz> hi fellas
[11:18] <lgc> Whatsisname, the easy one, of course.
[11:19] <ardchoille> lgc: Please don't randomly hilight people
[11:19] <minimec> brit: And in the end we go to the properties of nautilus and change to single click.
[11:19] <dabone> quit
[11:19] <lgc> cables, ardchoille, you guys have helped me in the past!
[11:19] <Whatsisname> easy way is once the computer boots up switch to a virtual terminal and shut down gdm
[11:19] <gyaresu> !volunteer | lgc
[11:19] <cables> lgc, cool, i didn't know that. If you have BUM (boot-up manager) installed, I think you can disable GDM, but someone should double-check that
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <ardchoille> yay for ignore lists :)
[11:20] <ibob63> hi guys. I am going to upgrade my graphics card, Anyhow know a good side for compatiability with ubuntu / compiz?
[11:20] <riqz> automatix rules the world
[11:20] <gyaresu> !behaviour | lgc
[11:20] <ubotu> lgc: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:20] <cables> !automatix | riqz
[11:20] <ubotu> riqz: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:20] <lgc> Whatsisname, I want the memory gdm takes.
[11:20] <cables> gyaresu, what lgc did wasn't so bad
[11:20] <riqz> lol
[11:20] <riqz> my automatix rules
[11:20] <Whatsisname> lgc, so just shut it down after it boots up
[11:20] <brit> I don't think that will work for what I need it for, but thanks for your attempts.
[11:20] <gyaresu> cables: Yeah but no better factoid.
[11:20] <eshaase> damnit, my two favorite mp3 mplayers (audacious/bmpx) are in the feisty branch after i just installed edgy =(
[11:21] <Whatsisname> if you want it to not come up at all when you boot up, you're going to have to do things the hard way
[11:21] <Marupa> Any ideas on how to get my parport working?
[11:21] <lgc> gyaresu, sometimes I find people here who are more 'popist' than the Pope itself!
[11:21] <cables> riqz, whenever anyone says that, a little bit of me dies.
[11:21] <Whatsisname> which really isn't all that hard but it takes a few minutes
[11:21] <fran_> Hello all, greetings from Argentina... I have a doubt.. It is possible to use checkinstall, to generate a .deb of the kernel in Ubuntu, just like kernel-package in Debian?
[11:21] <riqz> lol cables
[11:21] <minimec> that you have to change in the gnome-keybinding-properties
[11:21] <minimec> brit: that you have to change in the gnome-keybinding-properties
[11:21] <Marupa> fran_, Yes.
[11:21] <riqz> well it takes care of dependencies that apt doesnt recognise
[11:21] <gyaresu> !works for me | riqz
[11:21] <ubotu> riqz: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:22] <thestriker> in the applications menu..my internet is not showing up for some reason
[11:22] <fran_> Marupa, thanks
[11:22] <cables> riqz, that's so not true... it just groups packages together.
[11:22] <riqz> i had problems installing azureus and xchat and then automatix BOOM installed
[11:22] <thestriker> i tried configuring in the alacarte menu editor..but to no vain
[11:22] <riqz> 1 click
[11:22] <arooni> hey folks....
[11:22] <Whatsisname> what
[11:22] <cables> riqz, great. Have fun upgrading to Feisty.
[11:23] <arooni> is there a *better* wireless connection detector?  i.e. one where i dont have to know the name of the SSID before i connect?
[11:23] <cables> !networkmanager | arooni
[11:23] <ubotu> arooni: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:23] <cables> !wifi-radar | arooni
[11:23] <thestriker> in the alacarte menu editor i can see the INTERNET but its ITALIC while the others are not
[11:23] <riqz> on another subject anyway
[11:23] <lgc> Whatsisname, what would  be the hard way then?
[11:23] <ubotu> arooni: wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:23] <Amaranth> thestriker: italic means hidden
[11:23] <superkirbyartist> Computer is too slow!  I need antivirus for Ubuntu, any suggestions please?
[11:23] <cables> arooni, i can explain the diffirences to you if you want
[11:23] <riqz> i have been tinkering around with beryl lol. What a piece of bugged software lol. I gave up. Im gonna wait until its stable
[11:23] <Amaranth> superkirbyartist: ubuntu doens't need antivirus
[11:23] <cables> superkirbyartist, there are no linux viruses.
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: you likely don't need antivirus
[11:23] <arooni> cables: please... id like to know which one (or both) i should get
[11:24] <thestriker> Amaranth: how can i make it unhidden
[11:24] <brit> That's where I set the shortcuts, but when I check out the shortcuts in GConf, the command is just "music" I can't choose what player loads
[11:24] <Amaranth> thestriker: there is a checkbox next to it
[11:24] <mheath> superkirbyartist, Very few viruses exist for Ubuntu and the software that runs on it. These issues are addressed through software updates, not through virus removal software.
[11:24] <superkirbyartist> IndyGunFreak: It's so slow, Openoffice.org and sometimes even Firefox!
[11:24] <Whatsisname> lgc, the hard way would be creating a new runlevel, one that does not include gdm, and an entry in grubs config to allow to select runleve, at bootup
[11:24] <riqz> u can get firewalls for linux
[11:24] <Flosoft> hey
[11:24] <Flosoft> I have updated one of my Kubuntu servers a few hours ago
[11:24] <jin> !bittorrent
[11:24] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[11:24] <Whatsisname> riqz, sort of
[11:24] <jin> !p2p
[11:25] <mheath> superkirbyartist, That is likely because your computer's specifications aren't enough to run that software at a faster speed.
[11:25] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:25] <Flosoft> now I want to update my laptop
[11:25] <Whatsisname> iptables is a capable firware
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: well, you may have some issues, but its highly unlikely its  avirus
[11:25] <Whatsisname> firewall
[11:25] <BigMac> apokryphos: anyway I can make a script out of it, so when I doble click it, it will run that command in the directory that the script was placed
[11:25] <riqz> use azureus
[11:25] <Flosoft> is there a way to not re-download the packages?
[11:25] <thestriker> Amaranth: not next to internet..its next to the subapplications in INTERNET
[11:25] <arooni> cables: you there ? :P
[11:25] <cables> arooni, wifi-radar works with the built-in networking subsystem, and saves everything in the /etc/network/interfaces file so you can have networking in recovery mode. NetworkManager is just cool, but it will disable networking in recovery mode and is less customizable. Wifi-radar didn't work for me however, but try it anyway to see if it works.
[11:26] <joshjosh> !ipod
[11:26] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:26] <jin> !azureus
[11:26] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[11:26] <lgc> Whatsisname, I think I'll try the easy way first. Is it any way you know to somehow 'flush' the memory?
[11:26] <ibob63> g
[11:26] <Whatsisname> lgc, X and gdm are just another program
[11:26] <arooni> cables: ok now that i installed wifi-radar how do i use it
[11:26] <cables> arooni, they're both very different. NetworkManager requires disabling your interfaces in the regular networking settings in ubuntu, but is a littel more "automatic" and stuff
[11:26] <soundray> Flosoft: best way is to copy all packages from /var/cache/apt/archives on the installed machine to the laptop
[11:26] <Whatsisname> when its shut down, it will release all memory just like anything else
[11:26] <cables> arooni, Applications>Internet>WiFi Radar
[11:26] <Amaranth> thestriker: if you click on "Applications" you'll get Internet in the right pane
[11:26] <gyaresu> Flosoft: The packages you have are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:26] <Flosoft> ok thanks soundray
[11:27] <Flosoft> thx gyaresu
[11:27] <Flosoft> :D
[11:27] <superkirbyartist>  Guys?
[11:27] <superkirbyartist> My computer is slowing down to a crawl!
[11:27] <riqz> yeowch
[11:27] <riqz> why
[11:27] <thestriker> Amaranth: how clumsy of me!..thanx a lot buddy..thanx!
[11:27] <lgc> Whatsisname, I think I know that. But memory management isn't perfect, I believe...
[11:27] <Jordan_U> I can't figure out how to get a certain computer to boot from CD, I have set it as the first item in the boot priority but no go
[11:28] <Whatsisname> if it doesnt free up its memory properly then you can't do anything about it anyway
[11:28] <apokryphos> BigMac: if you like. I really recommend using digiKam though, which is a wonderful image management application (and has easy tools like that, upload to flickr, etc)
[11:28] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, Hard drive problems?
[11:28] <thestriker> Amaranth: if i decide to upgrade to feisty..if i disconnect the upgrade for any reason will it resume the next time i start it?
[11:28] <riqz> jordan : u checked if it recognizes the cd drive?
[11:28] <Amaranth> thestriker: yes
[11:28] <cables> arooni, is that working for you?
[11:28] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U I think so indeed.
[11:28] <Amaranth> thestriker: but don't cancel it while it's installing, only while it's downloading
[11:28] <Jordan_U> riqz, It does
[11:28] <Amaranth> thestriker: once it starts installing you need to let it finish
[11:28] <riqz> jordan: what cd is it u want to boot
[11:28] <lgc> Whatsisname, let me try that, then. Thanks.
[11:28] <tjl30> Is there a program for Linux so that I can burn a .avi file to a dvd ?
[11:29] <Whatsisname> tjl30, so it will play in standalone dvd players?
[11:29] <Jordan_U> riqz, None will work, I have tried Debian, Ubuntu, Even the WIndows install CD it  came with
[11:29] <thestriker> Amaranth: u mean while the installation is going on i shudnt cancel..tats only after the download is finished..so i dont think there shud be any problem
[11:29] <arooni> cables: looks like wifi radar is working great.... is there any need for something else?
[11:29] <gyaresu> Flosoft: you can also take a look at apt-cacher
[11:29] <tjl30> ya
[11:29] <Amaranth> thestriker: right
[11:29] <cables> arooni, nope, if that works for you, that's great.
[11:29] <riqz> jordan: damn that sounds like some weird bad problem. Sorry bro
[11:29] <Flosoft> ok .. will do
[11:30] <paul928> Whatsisname-try DeVeDe
[11:30] <ardchoille> tjl30: I think avidemux will do that
[11:30] <arooni> man i like this linux thing a lot
[11:30] <charlesnw> hi all
[11:30] <thestriker> Amaranth: shud i upgrade now or shud i wait till the STABLE version comes in april...i mean wats a good option..ur advice !
[11:30] <ardchoille> tjl30: And I know devede will do it
[11:30] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U: Sometimes, it just endlessly hums and slows down the mouse, etc.
[11:30] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, Have you tried an fsck?
[11:30] <riqz> !feisty
[11:30] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:30] <riqz> holy crap already!
[11:31] <Whatsisname> paul928, wrong person lol
[11:31] <Amaranth> thestriker: i'd wait at least until the release candidate unless you know what you're doing
[11:31] <charlesnw> fsck? shouldn't need that with journalling file systems
[11:31] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U: Let's see...
[11:31] <cables> thestriker, back up!
[11:31] <Amaranth> riqz: new release every 6 months
[11:31] <Jordan_U> thestriker, If you have to ask then you should probably wait.
[11:31] <riqz> is it easy to upgrade to another version of ubuntu?:
[11:31] <cables> charlesnw, things can get screwed up anyway
[11:31] <apokryphos> riqz: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[11:31] <Amaranth> riqz: it's more or less automated
[11:31] <paul928> Whatsisname-sorry, too much static
[11:31] <cables> riqz, I hate to break it to you, but not when you've used Automatix.
[11:31] <charlesnw> i am aware of that cables
[11:31] <riqz> lol
[11:31] <Tibmol> how can i install my tv card as default video device ?
[11:31] <riqz> why would automatix have anything to do with it
[11:31] <cables> riqz, absolutely serious here... that's when most of the errors come up
[11:31] <Jordan_U> charlesnw, That is not true, just because it's journaled doesn't mean there aren't hardware caused problems
[11:32] <charlesnw> precisely my point
[11:32] <cables> Does anyone care to explain to riqz why Automatix breaks upgrades?
[11:32] <thestriker> ok..but wats the deal of upgrading...will there be an erase in the data?
[11:32] <arooni> how can i move things around on the 'ubuntu bar'
[11:32] <charlesnw> its not the fs. its hardware
[11:32] <arooni> i mean drag them to other locations on the ubuntu bar
[11:32] <charlesnw> arooni: just drag them. you might have to right click
[11:32] <cables> arooni, right click, uncheck "lock to panel"
[11:32] <ardchoille> cables: Not without getting kicked for language, lol
[11:32] <riqz> i think my automatix just got stuck lol
[11:33] <Jordan_U> riqz, Automatix is the spawn of satin, honestly it can screw up your system.
[11:33] <riqz> right... my automatix is stuck wooot
[11:33] <riqz> should i dare press cancel?
[11:33] <Grnsgrf> hi
[11:34] <riqz> here goes
[11:34] <riqz> if i crash pray for me
[11:34] <riqz> ah no
[11:34] <riqz> it was just downloading
[11:34] <Tw> #catalyst
[11:34] <Grnsgrf> im using feisty (normal ubuntu) and i would like to install kde 4, how can i do this?
[11:35] <riqz> anyone here managed to install beryl guys?
[11:35] <brit> You can't yet, me thinks
[11:35] <Jordan_U> riqz, In the future though, avoid automatix, Yes I have with the Beryl question
[11:35] <charlesnw> if its packaged you can install kubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <andy> has anyone here install lamp and have a desktop gui
[11:35] <riqz> ok i wont use automatix anymore
[11:35] <jin> months ago I have tried azureus on ubuntu dapper and I installed with apt-get and it had the bug where the error litle window does not go away when you click on "close" and today the bug is still there, But it's already fixed (probably months ago) by the azureus team and yet nothing has done on the version in the repo?
[11:35] <charlesnw> you shouldn't run a gui on servers
[11:35] <slyfox> How can I add to my right clic kcontext menu - create new - open office text document ?
[11:35] <soundray> Grnsgrf: #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions -- and generally, you should stick with the packages that ubuntu provides
[11:35] <riqz> jordan i managed to install beryl but it freezes on startup
[11:35] <riqz> and i gave uip
[11:36] <ardchoille> andy: Yes
[11:36] <Grnsgrf> soundray: yep, just want testing
[11:36] <dager> riqz: did you set up xgl/aiglx accordingly?
[11:36] <riqz> btw guys i cant get a list of users on xchat here... anyone care
[11:36] <crdlb> jin, try rtorrent (it's ncurses-based but has all the major features of azureus except DHT)
[11:36] <riqz> dager: yes xgl and aiglx
[11:36] <soundray> Grnsgrf: if you install other stuff, you have to bypass the packaging system and relinquish one of the major advantages that ubuntu has
[11:36] <riqz> dager: at least i think...it took me a whole night
[11:36] <jin> crdlb, isn't rtorrent commandline based?
[11:36] <dager> riqz: you only need to run one or the other.. having both set up might be causing the problem
[11:37] <recon31> does any one know how to add to group files
[11:37] <crdlb> jin, yes
[11:37] <riqz> dager: yeh i think that might be the problem
[11:37] <Jordan_U> riqz, You can't have XGL AND AIGLX
[11:37] <oo7> jin, 2 things you can try.  1) i learned a while ago to install azureus manually, it's the only program that i do install manually...or you cna go to the "About" in azureus, then you will be able to hit "hide" on those error messages
[11:37] <riqz> dager: i have xgl
[11:37] <slyfox> How can I add to my right click context menu - create new - open office text document ?
[11:37] <andy> can u help me install lamp
[11:37] <soundray> recon31: what are you trying to do?
[11:38] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have ubuntu system with GNOME desktop environment
[11:38] <riqz> dager: and when i run it it doesnt recognize my xgl
[11:38] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I want to install a new font
[11:38] <crdlb> slyfox, make an odt file and place it in ~/Templates/
[11:38] <Jordan_U> !lamp andy
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp andy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <andy> im new to linux'
[11:38] <Jordan_U> !lamp | andy
[11:38] <ubotu> andy: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:38] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have open font:/// in nautilus
[11:38] <riqz> dager: but linux confirms that im running xgl
[11:38] <dager> riqz: try to switch to aiglx and run the open-source drivers with it, thats how i got mine working
[11:38] <Eko_Hermiyanto> and open other nautilus box to open my font folder
[11:38] <soundray> !font > Eko_Hermiyanto, please read the private message from ubotu
[11:38] <recon31> soundray I  am trying to add mythtv user to the cdrom file in group
[11:38] <riqz> dager: yeh i'll try that
[11:38] <slyfox> crdlb: ~/Templates/    folder does not exist
[11:38] <Eko_Hermiyanto> !font
[11:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:38] <PhantomNJ> Running Edgy Eft, Listen Music Player, can anyone help with adding internet radio stations?
[11:39] <riqz> dager: but to switch to aiglx do i have to disable xgl?if so how?
[11:39] <andy> !lamp
[11:39] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:39] <soundray> recon31: erm... are you trying to add the user named mythtv to the group named cdrom?
[11:39] <crdlb> slyfox, then create it
[11:39] <dager> riqz: xgl needs to be disabled.. no idea how, i assume it would be just undo whatever you did to enable it
[11:39] <Jordan_U> riqz, Yes, you do, just don't choose the XGL session when you log in
[11:39] <soundray> recon31: 'sudo adduser mythtv cdrom' would do that
[11:39] <recon31> yes my mythfrontend wont
[11:39] <ardchoille> andy: I followed that tutorial and everything went fine.. no problems at all.
[11:39] <recon31> mybe  i will try
[11:40] <riqz> jordan_u: how do i not choose it at login>???
[11:40] <slyfox> crdlb: /home/slyfox/Templates    ?
[11:40] <a_coward> png alpha transparency is slowing down firefox... how do enable 3d accleration to et better performance?
[11:40] <crdlb> slyfox, yes
[11:40] <blurn> when ssh is installed on ubuntu, and I am trying to login to my ssh server, it says my pass is wrong, what is it using for a pass?
[11:40] <Jordan_U> riqz, Go click on sessions and choose Gnomw
[11:40] <ubuntu> microsoft it is looser
[11:40] <truvisionary> where and how do I get a dock for my desktop?
[11:41] <oo7> blurn: when you ssh in as root?
[11:41] <Jordan_U> truvisionary, What kind of dock, there should be a panel there by default\
[11:41] <slyfox> crdlb: what should be the name of the odt file ?
[11:41] <SpacePuppy> truvisionary: don't docks usually come with boats?
[11:41] <riqz> jordan_u: u mean change sessions when i login?
[11:41] <truvisionary> haha...
[11:41] <Jordan_U> riqz, Yes
[11:41] <truvisionary> not funny
[11:41] <riqz> jordan_u: cos i dont remember a gnomw option
[11:42] <crdlb> slyfox, "whatever you want to see in the menu.odt"
[11:42] <blurn> oo7 I am trying to connect to my ubuntu box, from another ubuntu box, but its not allowing the root passwd
[11:42] <andy> is it the same for edgy eft i noticed these instructions are for ubuntu 6.06
[11:42] <Jordan_U> riqz, That's because I mistyped "gnome" :)
[11:42] <oo7> probably because you've never set a root password
[11:42] <riqz> haha
[11:42] <oo7> the password you set is for your user
[11:42] <zackglennie_> where is grub.conf in ubuntu?
[11:42] <riqz> jordan_u: but aint I on gnome already?
[11:42] <Jordan_U> zackglennie_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:42] <truvisionary> I want a dock kind of like the ones used in mac OSX
[11:43] <oo7> if you want to set a root password go to root "sudo su -" then set a root pw, but to be completely honest, you should be careful, because by default ubuntu openssh server allows root login, might be a good idea to turn that off by editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:43] <Jordan_U> riqz, Yes, but you are on Gnome + XGL, you want _just_ Gnome
[11:43] <dager> truvisionary, try kiba-dock or gnome-dock
[11:43] <crdlb> truvisionary, avant window navigator
[11:43] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U?
[11:43] <superkirbyartist> What details would you like?
[11:43] <superkirbyartist> It says "clean".
[11:43] <SpacePuppy> truvisionary: or try beryl
[11:43] <PhantomNJ> oo7: egad
[11:43] <ardchoille> andy: I don't know, I don't use Edgy.. probably never will.
[11:43] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U?
[11:43] <riqz> jordan so if I choose gnome then install aiglx
[11:43] <PhantomNJ> why on earth would they have set it up that way?
[11:43] <crdlb> truvisionary, avant requires compiz or beryl though
[11:43] <riqz> ill be running on gnome +aiglx from then on?
[11:44] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, I was just wondering if it was corrupt, you might try to force a check even though it's listed as clean
[11:44] <superkirbyartist> How?
[11:44] <Eko_Hermiyanto> there is something strange with font system in my ubuntu system
[11:44] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have read instalation procedure on the web and ubotu
[11:44] <arooni> hey folks.... right now my sound is coming out of my speakers *and* my headphones... how can i make it so when i put in headphones, volume ONLY comes out of headphone jack
[11:44] <oo7> PhantomNJ, because by default the root password is scrambled, the devs don't expect you to "sudo su -" to get to root and reset your root pw, that's my guess
[11:44] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but doesn't work
[11:44] <slyfox> crdlb: did it and it does not work
[11:45] <Eko_Hermiyanto> when I restart my X(even my ubuntu)... it doesn't work
[11:45] <Jordan_U> riqz, Yes, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:45] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U, how do we force a check?
[11:45] <slyfox> crdlb: maybe you mean this "go to ~/.kde/share/templates (make the directory if it doesn't exist) and create a shortcut to the file you want to use for your oo text template" ?
[11:45] <riqz> 6.10
[11:45] <Eko_Hermiyanto> in font menu in system menu... there is no list of font I had installed
[11:45] <Eko_Hermiyanto> strange
[11:45] <crdlb> slyfox, didn't say you were using kde
[11:45] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U, how do we force a check?
[11:45] <joshjosh> i try to play my ipod in amarok and it says it has no mp3 support. everything works in rhythmbox though. any ideas?
[11:45] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have installed ttf_bitstream_vera-1.10
[11:45] <slyfox> crdlb: oh yes, sorry I forgot about this being the ubunut channel
[11:46] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but there is no vera fonts
[11:46] <Msword> hello
[11:46] <Msword> i need some help
[11:46] <Msword> :(
[11:46] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, Wait, did it just quickly tell you it was clean or did it take a minute?
[11:46] <riqz> we all do hehe
[11:46] <PhantomNJ> oo7: ugh......still not a good idea.......heck, Solaris didn't add openssh by default until I think version 9 or 10 and they still knew enough to have root login disabled by default
[11:46] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U it was quick.
[11:46] <Msword> I'm attempting to dual boot with windows and ubuntu
[11:46] <ardeni> hi all, how i can add amarok to autostart?
[11:46] <Eko_Hermiyanto> soundray, it doesn't work in my ubuntu system
[11:46] <Flosoft> I have a multiboot on my laptop
[11:46] <Msword> but when i went to the install thing (ive already partitioned) i got an error
[11:47] <Flosoft> is there a way to boot my Windows in Linux?
[11:47] <riqz> msword what error
[11:47] <siegie> Each time i start up gnome i get bug buddy, and gnome is blocked, the generated file of bug buddy can be found on siegie.sin.khk.be foutrapportage
[11:47] <crdlb> ardeni, System -> prefs -> sessions - startup apps
[11:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> the fonts I have installed appear  in /home/eko/.fonts/
[11:47] <superkirbyartist> Msword: Dapper, edgy or feisty?
[11:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but not in font menu in system menu
[11:47] <arooni> does anyone know how to fix the sound issue with my laptop
[11:47] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, I think you need to either run fsck from a liveCD or set it to run on the next boot
[11:47] <siegie> Flosoft: vmware?
[11:47] <Flosoft> no
[11:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> aroony : in ubuntuguide has everything about sound system
[11:47] <Flosoft> I want to boot my Windows from my PC
[11:47] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U can I force check from terminal?
[11:47] <arooni> Eko_Hermiyanto: so you dont know how to make the sound come out only of my headphoens when i plug them in?
[11:48] <Msword> File system doesn't have expected sizes for windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k(1k expected) Number of clusters is 20017(39957 expected) Size of FATs is 79 sectors(157 expected)
[11:48] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, Yes, but I can't remember how, I'm looking now.
[11:48] <Msword> could anyone make sence of that?
[11:48] <ardeni> crdlb: thx :)
[11:48] <oo7> PhantomNJ, yah there's really no reason to PermitRootLogin, but they do.  I make it a point to edit it.
[11:48] <riqz> wow i hope after installing these codecs I can finally watch .avi files on linux
[11:48] <riqz> that would mean so much to me
[11:48] <Eko_Hermiyanto> arooni, do you mean you only able to hear sound when you plug your headphone?
[11:48] <Msword> anyone?
[11:48] <PhantomNJ> oo7: thanks for pointing it out......I'll have to go and fix that in my installs
[11:48] <Eko_Hermiyanto> my ubuntu system default able not to play sound at all...
[11:48] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but after following ubuntuguide...
[11:49] <arooni> Eko_Hermiyanto: no. when i insert headphones i *still* hear sound out of my laptop speakesr (i dont want to )
[11:49] <riqz> Msword: are u sure u partitioned correctly?
[11:49] <Eko_Hermiyanto> my ubuntu system able to play every multimedia files I wish to play
[11:49] <d0uglas> hi. just did a fresh install, apt got gtk-gnutella, but it's got no hosts... where can i look to get a gnutella host? google's unhelpful
[11:49] <Eko_Hermiyanto> arooni, that's the problem with your hardware(because I have a mp4 player, it has similar problem too)
[11:49] <crdlb> d0uglas, are you behind a firewall?
[11:49] <d0uglas> crdlb: yes
[11:49] <drees> hello roomies, greetings from Holland.
[11:50] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, run "sudo touch /forcefsck" then reboot
[11:50] <riqz> MSword: did u make a big enough partition? and a swap partition?
[11:50] <Msword> When i was installing ubuntu i got this error, everything is already partitioned and I'm attempting to dual boot with XP: File system doesn't have expected sizes for windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k(1k expected) Number of clusters is 20017(39957 expected) Size of FATs is 79 sectors(157 expected)
[11:50] <Msword> i made 1 6gig
[11:50] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U, then...
[11:50] <Msword> than the 1 gig
[11:50] <Msword> than a 37 gig
[11:50] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, See if it gives any errors ( you will see it run when you reboot )
[11:51] <crdlb> d0uglas, you may need to open some ports; I am behind a router and I didn't (but it works fine though)
[11:51] <riqz> msword: so u have 3 partitions. What partition is windows on and what filesystem type are all 3
[11:51] <d0uglas> crdlb: but the host cache is completely empty
[11:51] <danny> hey cusco, can you join #cusco again? i need some help getting jre installed
[11:51] <coshx> what's the cli command for determining which package a file comes from?
[11:51] <soundray> coshx: dpkg -S filename
[11:51] <coshx> soundray: thanks
[11:51] <riqz> wht does dpkg stand for anyways
[11:51] <d0uglas> debian package
[11:52] <riqz> aaaaaaaaa
[11:52] <Msword> ok, i have 5 partitions in total, one is dell's, one is xp's, those already work. - i made one 6 gig ext3, one 1 gig linux-swap, and on 37(give or take) gig ext3
[11:52] <jin> crap
[11:52] <jin> ffox just crashed :(
[11:52] <soundray> !ohmy | jin
[11:52] <ubotu> jin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:52] <riqz> why did u make the 6gig one msword?
[11:52] <Msword> my tutorial said to...
[11:52] <Msword> lol
[11:52] <Msword> i wondered why i needed it...
[11:52] <riqz> msword i think u chose the wrong one to install on
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> riqz: some tutorials suggest a separate partition for /home.. why i don't know.
[11:53] <Andruu> Just wondering, I'm trying to compile something, and apparently stdio.h is missing, I found 'nostudio.h' and was wondering...what am I supposed to be able to compile anything that needs the stdio header?
[11:53] <riqz> indygunfreak: lol thts gay
[11:53] <coshx> okay, i just ran sudo aptitude remove postgresql-7.4, but i still see /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 (i also have 8.2 installed, but don't see this in System->Admin->Services)
[11:53] <Msword> should i just delete the six gig and put it into the 37 gig?
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> riqz: i agree, i think its stupid
[11:53] <crdlb> IndyGunFreak, it's so you can reinstall w/o touching your files
[11:53] <Msword> this is the tutorial
[11:53] <Msword> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/20/1654251
[11:53] <riqz> msword nono leave it like tht
[11:53] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, It's so you can reformat and re-install and keep all your user files / preferences
[11:53] <Msword> k
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> crdlb: iyeah, i know "why".., but i still think its silly, i'm a man, i just back up and let her rip..lol
[11:54] <riqz> msword. Try running the installer again and choose the right hda to install linux to
[11:54] <truvisionary> where could I get gnome dock and how would I install it?
[11:54] <riqz> msword u prolly chose the swap partition
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> crdlb: remember, i don't even upgrade my OS, i just do clean installs..lol
[11:54] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: because you can do a fresh system install and not touch user data in the process
[11:54] <Msword> hda?
[11:54] <HolyGoat> coshx: You can also use apt-file search (after you install apt-file)
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: i know, i just think its silly
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> i'm sure it works for many folks, just not my cup of tea
[11:54] <riqz> msword. Yes. It asks you where u want to install it. It should be hda5 or 6 i cant say from here
[11:54] <riqz> msword u gotta choose the right one
[11:55] <Msword> ok, i want to instal it on the 6 gig partition right?
[11:55] <d0uglas> any activesync-like ware for linux that does the job for windows mobile phones?
[11:55] <truvisionary> can someone help me with this??
[11:55] <riqz> msword if thts what u want yes
[11:55] <Shaba1> what about it riqz
[11:55] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: separating partitions is also a measure that limits the damage in case of filesystem corruption
[11:55] <Msword> alright, and once i do this it can still access the other 37 gig partition?
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> IndyGunFreak: yeah, yeah, i know.
[11:55] <riqz> shabal: no i was helping msword mate
[11:55] <theidiotthatisme> Has anyone here been able to get Alpha Centauri planetary pack to work on Edgy? I always get a seg. fault after shortly starting it
[11:56] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U: 2% non-contigious
[11:56] <HolyGoat> truvisionary: Do you mean the gnome panel perhaps?
[11:56] <riqz> msword: if its the one with windows on yes. The installation will create a boot loader where u can choose what to boot up
[11:56] <HolyGoat> (which is in the package gnome-panel, if you don't have it already)
[11:56] <Msword> alright
[11:56] <Msword> thanks much
[11:56] <riqz> msword wait
[11:56] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U?
[11:56] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, then your filesystem is OK
[11:56] <Msword> ?
[11:56] <riqz> msword make sure u install in the 6gig one
[11:56] <soundray> d0uglas: synce + multisync
[11:56] <superkirbyartist> What is causing slowdown, then?
[11:56] <Msword> yup
[11:56] <riqz> msword: good luck
[11:57] <Msword> i'll be back if i need anything
[11:57] <Msword> thanks for the help :)
[11:57] <d0uglas> soundray: thanks
[11:57] <soundray> d0uglas: the forum has instructions - keyword pocketpc
[11:57] <riqz> np
[11:57] <d0uglas> ok
[11:57] <truvisionary> I don't know
[11:57] <Jordan_U> truvisionary, Do you have Compiz / Beryl installed?
[11:57] <truvisionary> no
[11:57] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U?
[11:57] <d0uglas> off hand do you know if that will do "tether mode" to use the phone for internet?
[11:57] <HolyGoat> truvisionary: Or you might mean docker, which, surprisingly, is in the docker package.
[11:57] <soundray> d0uglas: get a large cup of coffee and prepare for a long night though ;)
[11:57] <d0uglas> well i'll try it and see
[11:57] <d0uglas> soundray: yeah i figured
[11:57] <Exershio> hey
[11:58] <soundray> d0uglas: I don't think it will
[11:58] <Exershio> Is Ubuntu Edgy supposed to be slower in terms of performance than Windows XP?
[11:58] <Exershio> O_o
[11:58] <HolyGoat> or yes, as Jordan_U mentions, if you want real eye candy, get beryl :)
[11:58] <Jordan_U> truvisionary, Because OSx has a GPU accellerated window manager, to get a truly OSx like dock you need one too ( hence Beryl / Compiz )
[11:58] <crdlb> Exershio, ubuntu isn't optimized for "snappiness" to the extent windows it
[11:58] <crdlb> is*
[11:58] <truvisionary> k
[11:58] <truvisionary> how would I install compiz?
[11:58] <Jordan_U> crdlb, In what way?
[11:59] <Exershio> crdlb, so it's supposed to be slower to respond?
[11:59] <superkirbyartist> Jordan_U?
[11:59] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, I don't know what else to try.
[11:59] <HolyGoat> Exershio: I don't really notice it.
[11:59] <superkirbyartist> Virus?
[11:59] <superkirbyartist> Anti-virus please?
[11:59] <soundray> Jordan_U: for example, Windows slows down large downloads when you're surfing interactively. Ubuntu doesn't make the assumption that that is what the user wants.
[11:59] <superkirbyartist> !virus
[11:59] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, Whell, actually, have you tried looking in the process manager
[11:59] <Exershio> HolyGoat: I'm running on 256mb of ram so I notice it =p
[11:59] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:00] <makuseru> how can i make a dvd from an avi in ubuntu
[12:00] <HolyGoat> Exershio: Ah, yes, I can see you'd notice it :) Memory is cheap, get yourself some memory.
[12:00] <Exershio> HolyGoat: I can't really get any memory without upgrading my entire computer
[12:00] <HolyGoat> Exershio: That old?
[12:00] <DiSRupT0r> hey
[12:00] <Jordan_U> superkirbyartist, You can install ClamAV if you insist, but I really doubt you have a virus
[12:00] <eugman> I need to draw a hexagon grid.
[12:00] <magnushc> how can i get kate on ubuntu
[12:00] <DiSRupT0r> i search a salon who speak turk plz
[12:01] <superkirbyartist> I am looking at ubotu, and clamav I don't know how to run.
[12:01] <arooni> hey folks
[12:01] <paul928>  makuseru-try DeVeDe
[12:01] <Exershio> HolyGoat: Yes. I have a 175w power supply, I'd need a better one for more memory. I'd need a new motherboard for a power supply, thus new components, etc
[12:01] <theidiotthatisme> Does anyone here run any of the old Loki games on Edgy? (Alpha Centauri, Descent 3, SC3U)
[12:01] <Jordan_U> magnushc, sudo apt-get install kate
[12:01] <cmillican> hi arooni