jdongLongPointyStick: medibuntu turns on MP4 support01:11
jdongAAC support01:11
jdonggrr lontra ^^01:11
jdongstupid tab01:11
jdongso medibuntu's supports editing mp4/m4a/m4v tags and getting proper length info01:11
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ryanakcaLongPointyStick: How would I fix but 89514?02:01
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Jucatomoin Hobbsee!04:35
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Hobbseeheya Jucato!04:38
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Jucatomoin _StefanS_08:56
_StefanS_morning :)08:57
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Riddell_StefanS_: I can't work out how to apply the patches you sent me11:29
_StefanS_Riddell: I must have done them wrong11:30
Riddell_StefanS_: can you send me a replacement for the current11:30
_StefanS_Riddell: well thats what I tried, but i can never get debdiff to work properly11:30
_StefanS_Riddell: thats why I sent you regular diffs. But I can explain to you what I have11:31
Riddellwhat did you diff against?11:31
_StefanS_Riddell: a patched kdebase (make -f debian/rules apply-patches)11:31
_StefanS_Riddell: but that might be all wrong ofcourse11:31
_StefanS_Riddell: If you can walk me through it, I will be happy to make another one for you11:32
_StefanS_Riddell: I did the following - diff -urN temp2/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver temp/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver (temp2 contains the "new" code, and temp is the patched standard kdebase*ubuntu12*)11:33
Riddellhmm, that works11:33
RiddellI wonder what was different the first time I tried11:34
_StefanS_Riddell: do you want me to send you the patches again ?11:34
_StefanS_Riddell: as I wrote I have patches for both kdm and ksmserver11:34
_StefanS_Riddell: but the kdm thing has alot of stuff in there which I haven't touched, like those "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase"-lines11:36
Riddell_StefanS_: got it now, thanks11:39
_StefanS_Riddell: alright, good :)11:39
Riddellcompiling away11:40
freeflyingRiddell: are you busy now?11:40
Jucatohm... since Tonio's not around, would anyone know if bug 67063 will be fixed for feisty?11:41
UbugtuMalone bug 67063 in kde-systemsettings "No way to alter Launch Feedback via System Settings" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6706311:41
_StefanS_Jucato: isn't that more of a feature, than a bug ?11:46
Jucato_StefanS_: I don't understand why it would be a feature11:46
Riddellfreeflying: not especially11:47
JucatoI thought that one of the purposes of System Settings is to include only those settings that can't be reached elsewhere, hence the Konqueror and Panel settings were removed11:47
_StefanS_Jucato: well what I mean, is that the current system-settings doesn't support changing the launch feedback .. hence it is a feature that is missing.11:48
_StefanS_Jucato: but I know.. everything is always characterized as bugs ;)11:48
Jucatoum... you sort of lost me there... :)11:48
_StefanS_who is actually developing on system-settings ?11:48
Riddellnobody at the moment11:49
_StefanS_its c++ ,right ?11:49
Riddell_StefanS_: changing the menu layout is simple enough (it's in /etc/xdg)11:49
Jucatoyes. but I think in this case only the .menu needs to be changed11:49
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_StefanS_hmm I will look at it.. just have to do some work first11:50
_StefanS_Riddell: oka11:50
Jucato_StefanS_: if you do put it back, imho it would be best placed under the Notifications group (KControl places it in Appearances & Themes)11:51
Jucatooh bah.. I mentioned that in the report :P11:51
_StefanS_well where is the notifications ? ..11:51
_StefanS_I dont have it in my current system-settings11:51
_StefanS_General: Personal, Look & feel, computer adminstration, Network and connect. ; Advanced: System administration, Advanced user settings11:52
\shRiddell, could you add the kppp patch (nozomi devices) to kdenetwork (so, we can provide support for nozomi umts cards?)11:52
Jucato_StefanS_: Look & Feel11:52
Jucatolast one in the row11:53
_StefanS_ah I get it11:53
Riddell\sh: i thought we had, let me check11:53
Jucato_StefanS_: hm.. I should have said, "Notifications settings under the Look & Feel group". :D11:53
_StefanS_Jucato: probably 8)11:53
\shRiddell, nope...feisties kppp doesn't have /dev/nozX where 0>=X<=4 ,-)11:54
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_StefanS_Jucato: if its only a menu file that needs to be changed, could you do it ?11:57
mbieblsebas, Lure: I uploaded kpowersave-0.7.2 to experimental today.11:57
mbieblIt's the first version which drops the dependency on powersaved and does everything through HAL now11:58
Jucato_StefanS_: I actually don't know how to properly create a diff. last time I did, I think I messed it up... sorry...11:58
mbieblIt should integrate much better into Kubuntu now (using acpi-support etc.)11:58
_StefanS_Jucato: I can help you with that... I'm good at screwing up diff files11:58
_StefanS_Jucato: make the stuff so it works, and then well screw up that diff together afterwards..12:00
mbieblRiddell: who do I have to bribe to get kpowersave-0.7.2 into feisty ;-)12:00
Jucato_StefanS_: digging up my work. hope I saved it :D12:00
Jucatoooh looks like I did... wait12:00
Riddellmbiebl: this kpowersave? https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpowersave/0.7.2-0ubuntu112:02
mbieblI get a restricted login...12:03
Riddellremove the beta12:03
mbieblyeah, it is.12:04
mbieblBut mine is a bit more polished ;-)12:04
mbiebl0ubuntu1 still references powersave in the description, is missing a versioned dep on hal etc.12:05
Riddellmbiebl: send a debdiff and I'll upload12:06
sebasmbiebl: Cool, can't wait to try it12:06
Riddell\sh: kdenetwork uploaded, sorry for the delay12:06
\shRiddell, no prob...thx :)12:07
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Jucato_StefanS_: can you please check if I did this properly? I diff'ed against the orig systemsettings (kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104.orig.tar.gz from feisty) http://jucato.org/stuff/system-settings-menu.diff12:18
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xerosiswhat's the status of the 'view' menu in adept?12:30
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_StefanS_Jucato: I will check it12:40
_StefanS_Jucato: seems to work fine12:44
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_StefanS_Riddell: sent you a mail12:50
Hobbseeheya _StefanS_12:52
Jucatohi Hobbsee!12:59
Hobbseehey Jucato!12:59
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Jucatocooking? :D12:59
Jucatohehe )01:01
Hobbseeow...stuff out fo the oven is *very hot*01:02
Jucatoooh... must still be smoking :)01:02
Hobbseeherb bread :)01:02
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kwwiihow much "herb" do you put in the bread?01:03
kwwii :-)01:03
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kwwiihowdy Jucato01:03
Hobbseekwwii: didnt make it myself :P01:03
Jucatoshe implied she lifted it from the supermarket01:04
Jucatoer.. s/lifted/bought/01:04
kwwiistole it from work01:04
Hobbseeuh yeah.  bought01:04
Hobbseewe have a manager who likes spying on us.01:04
Jucatoah thought they were freebies :)01:04
Lurembiebl: thanks, we already have version in feisty, but I will check your version and merge if needed01:04
Hobbseenot usually01:04
Hobbseeheya Lure!01:04
Lurehi Hobbsee01:05
Jucatokwwii: how is the artowrk for Kubuntu feist (aside from the bootsplash)? and how's the O2 spec (just saw it in the wiki while browsing around)01:05
mbieblIt's mainly the package desciption and a versioned dependency on hal01:06
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LureRiddell: digikam is released, so I hope we can prepare packages tonight with allee01:06
Jucato_StefanS_: it works? kool... now don't ask me to make a debdiff :)01:06
HobbseeLure: yay!01:06
mbieblI all added 04-default_config.patch01:06
HobbseeLure: how's the MOTU stuff, btw?01:06
RiddellLure: yay!01:06
RiddellLure: prepare, test, ask, upload01:06
Hobbsees/ask/sweet talk/01:06
mbieblwhich sets some default values in /etc/kde3/kpowersaverc01:06
alleeLure, Riddell: 0.9.1 final is on my todo for tonight01:06
LureHobbsee: got +3 already, not sure if they will wait for full 2 weeks - was out for weekend so I did not check01:07
Hobbseeoh, for a SRU?01:07
Lureallee: great01:07
Lureallee: we should probably ship new exiv2 0.13 mess...01:07
alleeLure: I was not online over the weekend.  But afaik there a soname change involved.  I'll check to night after 0.9.1 final pkgs01:08
ryanakcaHobbsee: How would I fix but 89514?01:15
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ryanakcabug 8951401:15
UbugtuMalone bug 89514 in kubuntu-default-settings "polyesterstylerc contains merge junk (in feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8951401:15
Hobbseei'm not sure, i dont use bzr much.01:16
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Hobbseeryanakca: seems fixed in the latest upload01:16
ryanakcaah, good 01:16
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ryanakcaor commited01:17
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_StefanS_Jucato: I already did, and sent it to Riddell01:21
Jucatowow! that fast? :D01:22
_StefanS_Jucato: yep, I sort of had the instructions on how to do that debdiff, so hopefully it wont cause probs for Riddell01:23
_StefanS_Jucato: make the changes, dch -i, debuild -S, cd .. ; debdiff *dsc > file.debdif01:25
Riddellit also needs to go into KDE SVN01:25
Riddellthe question is why that wasn't in there in the first place01:25
_StefanS_yea, seems odd really01:25
JucatoRiddell: last time I talked to el (months ago), she didn't know that there was no other place where you can control Launch Feedback01:25
_StefanS_Riddell: do you got access to commit it to kde svn ?01:26
_StefanS_good i will leave you to do that :)01:26
_StefanS_I'm going back to sleep on the couch.. be back in 30 mins or so01:27
_StefanS_the kid is keeping me up all night ;(01:27
Riddelluploaded, thanks _StefanS_, Jucato01:28
Jucatothanks Riddell! :)01:28
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allee_StefanS_: aren't you working on the shutdown/restart/... dialog?02:09
Riddellnot any more, it's a work of perfection :)02:11
allee_StefanS_: The buttons in the dialog don't accept <Return> only <Space>:  Using contrl-alt-del.  Move the keyboard focus with the <Left>,<Right>, press <Return> => Dialog is canceled02:11
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Jucatoallee: the Enter key vs Space has been fixed02:14
alleeJucato: ah, lot's of changes over the weekend ;)  Thx02:14
Jucatoallee: something like this one? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080316.002:17
alleeJucato: busy rn. I check later . Thx02:18
Jucatook. that's the one he fixed02:19
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Hobbseenixternal: i'm mentioned by name in your blog?  *g*02:41
Jucatohahah :)02:41
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_StefanS_Riddell: I get some errors regarding the build of kde-system-settings, the thing is - you sort off submitted them :D02:48
Jucatoum... something wrong I did? :(02:49
_StefanS_Jucato: probably me screwing up the debdiff :)02:49
kwwiiRiddell: before I push a new kubuntu-default-settings all I have to do is update the changelog?02:51
kwwiior is there more to it?02:51
_StefanS_kwwii: im anxious to see the final logo... is it done yet? is it ? ha?02:52
kwwii_StefanS_: I was just about to push the new usplash02:52
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_StefanS_Jucato: give me the url :D02:55
Jucato_StefanS_: no artwork. more like specs...02:56
kwwiiheck, give me it, I would like to see it too02:56
Jucatoor a "vision"02:56
_StefanS_well gimme!02:56
_StefanS_wake up Jucato02:56
Jucatobut isn't Ozone  "O" only?02:57
kwwiiyeah, funny that02:57
kwwiiok, I hope that all I have to do is make my changes and update the changelog02:58
abattoirOzone is O3 ;)02:58
_StefanS_kwwii: can you gimme a screenshot of the bootsplash ?02:58
Jucatooh hi abattoir02:59
kwwii_StefanS_: nope, I haven't installed the pics anywhere yet02:59
_StefanS_what da..02:59
_StefanS_hmm I have to wait then02:59
kwwii_StefanS_: but I just pushed a kubuntu-default-settings with the changes02:59
abattoirhello Jucato, kwwii, _StefanS_02:59
kwwiihowdy abattoir02:59
Jucatobtw, I was thinking, wouldn't it be a nice thing to have a page where we could put up all the artwork that was used in Kubuntu?03:00
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_StefanS_no where is it03:00
kwwiiJucato: sure, if someone wanted to make one :-)03:00
kwwii(hint, hint)03:00
Jucatohm... a simple wiki page would probably do...03:00
kwwii_StefanS_: it won't be in an update yet03:01
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kwwiiyou could download the package from launchpad or bzr though)03:01
Hobbseethought there wsa one for edgy03:01
kwwiiHobbsee: yeah, that was back when we were supposed to discuss the artwork :p03:01
Hobbseekwwii: what, you mean you arnet still?03:02
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Hobbseebug #8940503:02
UbugtuMalone bug 89405 in beryl-core "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8940503:02
Jucatodoesn't imbrandon have a site like that? for *buntu artwokr?03:02
abattoirhi Hobbsee03:02
Hobbseehey abattoir03:02
HobbseeJucato: buntudot?  no03:02
Jucatono something else...03:03
Jucato*staging* something...03:03
Jucatoabattoir: thanks03:03
Jucato<abattoir> art.ubuntu.com03:04
Hobbseeoh, that...03:04
Jucatohttp://art.ubuntu.com/main.php and http://art-staging.ubuntu.com/main.php03:04
Jucatoseems like the pages exist already :)03:04
Jucatomy bad03:04
Hobbseehttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/89858 looks fun03:04
UbugtuMalone bug 89858 in kdebase "Bad documentation in README.Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 03:04
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Riddellkwwii: did you make a new branch?03:08
Riddellkwwii: you can just checkout and commit03:08
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_StefanS_Riddell: did you see those compile errors for the system-settings ? its related to that final patch it tries to apply..03:10
Riddell_StefanS_: blurg03:10
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_StefanS_Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6629150/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz03:10
_StefanS_Riddell: does it have something to do with me not doing apply-patches prior to creating the diff ? :)03:13
_StefanS_stupid debdiff's :D03:15
_StefanS_or me hehe03:15
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kwwiiRiddell: pushed a branch a while ago03:15
kwwiiRiddell: let me know if I messed something up :-)03:16
kwwiiI removed one pic but couldn't find it mentioned in any other file03:16
_StefanS_kwwii: I trust it you got the colors working in those logos, since you're ready to release them ?03:17
_StefanS_Jucato: I should have put your email in the changelog so you would get spammed on those builderrors :)03:18
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Jucatothank goodness you didn't :)03:18
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\shhey kwwii :)03:19
_StefanS_Jucato: wasn't mao a dictator in your country (or nearby?) :D03:19
Jucatocountry nearby. that would be china :)03:20
_StefanS_well you're closer than me, so it must be near you03:20
kwwiihowdy \sh03:20
kwwiiRiddell: oops, live and learn :-)03:21
kwwii_StefanS_: yeah, that logo works at 256 colors03:21
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neutralossi'll donate a 6pack03:24
\shkwwii, are you in berlin (LT?)03:24
kwwii\sh: been thinking about going, yeah03:24
Jucato_StefanS_: hamster?03:24
_StefanS_Jucato: err.. cpu :D03:25
Jucatoaaah lol03:25
_StefanS_hamster dance takes atleast two..03:25
\shkwwii, cool, I'm reserving some holidays for it..time to do some kubuntu/ubuntu  booth love again ;)03:25
kwwiihehe, sounds like it will be a good time03:26
\shkwwii, sure :) another good thing is, I can visit some friends in berlin :)03:27
kwwii\sh: that is part of the reason I'll go as well :-)03:27
kwwiino need for a hotel03:27
\shkwwii, hehe yeah :)03:27
\shkwwii, and I can introduce my girlfriend to you geeks ,-)03:28
kwwiiI am an artist, not a geek03:29
_StefanS_kwwii: I heard you were a geek03:29
_StefanS_cant remember from whom :)03:29
\shkwwii, if there is ever an artist who I can name "geek", then it must be you ;)03:29
neutralosswhy is the "full upgrade" trying to remove gaim ?03:30
\sh"remove gaim" "install kopete" ,->03:31
_StefanS_neutraloss: because you're upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu03:31
_StefanS_neutraloss: nah dont know :D03:31
neutralossNay i'm using Kubuntu :)03:31
neutralossI just happened to be using gaim instead of kopete03:31
_StefanS_I could offer you a hamster ?03:31
Jucato_StefanS_: me me me! :)03:32
_StefanS_cant you just install gaim afterwards ?03:32
_StefanS_Jucato: hey, I know you... you want dual hamsters03:32
neutralossI will, or i'll try kopete again03:32
_StefanS_or a quad hamster03:32
neutralosshum, I wonder if any of these updates to xserver fixes the xgl problem03:32
_StefanS_well enough fun, this is a serious channel.03:33
neutralosslet there be no more talk of hamsters or other furry rodents03:33
Jucato_StefanS_: a hamster I could carry around :D03:34
neutralossupgrade from ff4 to ff5 is automatic via repos n'est pas?03:35
Jucato(the only other French word I know)03:36
neutralossWhat's the mailing list for changelogs to repos? is that the best way to keep informed?03:41
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Jucatohi bddebian!03:53
Jucatosaw your name in nixternal's blog post?03:54
Riddellneutraloss: feisty-changes03:54
bddebianHeya Jucato03:54
bddebianMy name?03:54
Jucato"Well during this time I also hooked up with people like Jordan Mantha, Daniel T. Chen, Brandon Holtsclaw, Sarah Hobbs, Jonathan Riddell, and many many more (bddebian boo!)." - http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.03.04/free-software-community/03:55
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Daskreech2kwwii: revive the ubuntu-calendar project :)04:07
kwwiiDaskreech2: great idea, but never going to happen, I think04:08
kwwiitoo many political/cultural burdens on that one04:08
Daskreech2I must have missed the politics04:12
JucatoI must have missed the topic...04:13
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RiddellJucato: naked people!04:16
Jucatooooh lol :)04:16
Daskreech2I think it was the week before Ubuntu shipped they pulled the calendar because people thought it was offensive04:18
Daskreech2Jucato: It's the reason why many people characterize Ubuntu as a set of bottoms touching04:18
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Jucatoso that's the origin of the "naked people" nickname :D04:19
DaSkreechsabdfl was a bit upset because it was one of the core marketing thingys04:19
DaSkreechSo they worked around it by implementing the famed well renowned long lived ubuntu-calendar package04:20
DaSkreechWhich delivered a new wallpaper every month04:20
DaSkreechWallpapers suspiciously similar in vein to the ones proposed by sabdfl :)04:21
DaSkreechran for 4 months then never got updated again04:21
DaSkreechI don't think that we have to go with "human" suggestive pictures of konqi kwwii. The idea of a rotating set of pictures around the kubuntu philosophy isn't too bad an idea I think04:22
neutralossIs there a way to edit status messages in Kopete?04:22
neutralossI seem to only be able to create new ones04:22
DaSkreechalt+f -> M04:22
kwwiiDaSkreech: sure, but there is also a lot of work involved in getting that right04:23
DaSkreechno clue. You put your first draft of a book as your status message?04:23
neutralossno, but I mistyped04:23
DaSkreechkwwii: doesn't stop it from being a goal04:23
kwwiiDaSkreech: true, but I think the best way for us to start is to pick the low hanging fruit04:23
DaSkreechand I suspect that if we have guidelines as to what's acceptable and looked for we can get submissions from the community04:24
DaSkreechkwwii: Oh no doubt04:24
DaSkreechsay a goal for Leaping lizards or Jumpin jehosphat?04:24
kdefreakRiddell/Everybody else: have any tasks that I can do? (Seeing that I'm at school, I've finished the assignment given, and the teacher doesn't have any more to hand out?) I have half an hour to kill04:35
kwwiiDaSkreech: sure, if we could guarantee that the quality is good enough04:35
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DaSkreechkwwii: well it would obviously have to have a period of approval04:40
DaSkreechkwwii: I'm just thinking that if a community could be built that is self critical and self motivated we could get some good high quality work04:41
DaSkreech plus it's a area of  OSS that needs more people attracted to it and having a showcase for them is a good idea04:41
DaSkreechand fits into both KDE's and Kubuntu's greater goals04:42
kwwiiall true04:42
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DaSkreechCtrl+Shift+W :)04:43
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kwwiitime to go my wife's grandfathers 98th birthday04:46
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Riddelllryanakca: you could fix https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/5710204:52
UbugtuMalone bug 57102 in kubuntu-default-settings "Kubuntu 6.06 locale problem: package doesn't get installed when it is in a directory with spaces on its name" [Undecided,Confirmed] 04:52
Riddelllit's kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop in k-d-s04:52
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kdefreakRiddell: kk, I'll fix it when I get home, thanks :)05:15
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mhbgood evening folks06:01
Luregood evening mhb06:03
mhbLure: did you get my image yesterday?06:03
Luremhb: no, was just connected but did not look into scroll back before reboot06:04
mhbLure: wait then, I'll find the line06:04
mhb20:47 < mhb> Lure: modified my battery suggestion to fit your needs: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7243/batteryscreenshot5mb2.png <-- that should be it06:05
Luremhb: what is the gray line in battery for?06:06
Luremhb: blue is not bad as it does not pop out of kicker too much, but you would really need to talk with kwwii regarding this06:07
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mhbLure: yeah, well of course I talked to him about this, he said we should show it to the people around and see what they think06:08
kwwiimhb: I still think that the label messes up the usability of that icon06:08
kwwiithe little grey label around the battery06:08
mhbkwwii: okay then06:08
mhbI'll make another one without it06:08
Luremhb: that is label?06:08
Luremhb: that is really not obvious...06:09
mhbkwwii: it seems that the icon is so small that people can't recognize it06:09
mhb(the label)06:09
Luremhb: I think the current one is quite recognizable06:09
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Luremhb: o, you are talking about label - yep, cannot put much in these limited pixels06:10
mhbLure: it is, but the color isn't consistent much06:10
mhbLure: that's why I tried to find another, more fitting icon06:11
mhbLure: but if you prefer to keep the old one, just say so06:12
xerosisthe blue isn't that easy to pick out against the grey06:13
mhbLure: if it's just me that dislikes it, I can live with it06:13
Luremhb: if you remove the label (which is confusing), I am fine with old or your's ;-)06:13
mhbLure: yeah, but that's not enough for changing it06:18
mhbLure: if there is nobody other than me who does want to change the old one, there's no reason in changing it06:19
DaSkreechseele: there is a mii nieghbourhood if you like06:28
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main"
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Riddellnew ktorrent out, any packaging volunteers?07:57
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nixternalholy cow07:58
DaSkreechha ha :)07:58
nixternalDaSkreech: how did you know that?07:58
nixternalthat is nuts07:58
nixternalI am not doing it now!07:59
DaSkreechHobbsee will use that pointy stick again08:00
nixternalI am not scared08:00
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DaSkreechI still have marks from last time in places I won't let my doctor look at08:00
nixternalsomeone remove that from the logs08:00
nixternalstrike my last :)08:00
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nixternalRiddell: -v2.1.1-0ubuntu1 correct for version?08:05
LureRiddell: can you push updated libkexiv2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=453008:06
LureRiddell: previous upload from Tonio_ is still in new queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libkexiv208:06
LureRiddell: do we need MIR (as this is cut-out code of digikam already in main)?08:07
nixternaltest building KTorrent right now, when done I will go ahead and debdiff it for you Riddell08:08
DaSkreechWhat's the new stuff on KTorrent08:13
Riddellnixternal: yes08:18
RiddellLure: shouldn't do no08:18
nixternalroger that, should be done shortly. I will upload to my server so you can grab it08:19
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nixternaltelling me to use unsermake instead of make08:25
Riddellnixternal: do you have unsermake installed?08:26
Riddellnixternal: remove it!08:26
Riddellunsermake is obsolete08:27
nixternalWARNING: use unsermake instead of make or use a wrapper script, e.g. makeobj!!!08:27
nixternal/home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake all08:27
nixternal/bin/bash: /home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake: No such file or directory08:27
Riddellsudo apt-get remove unsermake08:27
Riddellmake -f debian/rules buildprep08:27
nixternaltestroot error08:28
Riddellinstall fakeroot08:29
Riddellfakeroot make -f debian/rules buildprep08:29
nixternalrock on08:29
RiddellLure, allee: libkexiv2 uploaded, assuing it'll work to overwrite something already in NEW08:31
LureRiddell: will see in queue (maybe archive-admin might need to reject previoue upload)08:32
LureRiddell: I see that your kde4 is also stuck in queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue08:35
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DaSkreechShould kaffiene prompt to install libxine-extracodecs?08:41
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nixternaldefinitely working now, that's for sure08:54
RiddellDaSkreech: that needs to be fixed, it should be libxine-ffmpeg now08:55
DaSkreechWhatever :) I'm asking if it should prompt to install that if you run a Xvid video for example08:56
DaSkreechCan I reinitialize the mouse?08:56
nixternalRiddell: uploading now09:00
nixternalinstalled here locally, and working. So I guess that is a good sign ;)09:00
Riddellnixternal: have you found a changelog?09:01
nixternalfound a changelog?09:02
nixternalfor KTorrent?09:02
nixternalthere is one on their website09:02
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Riddellnixternal: URL?09:03
nixternalNEWS file is empty09:04
Riddellyou said there was one on their website09:05
nixternalI thought there was one, they used to have links to them, it seems they have changed their webpage and just list the changes on the front page09:06
nixternal^^ there is the new package09:06
nixternalall files including a debdiff09:06
nixternalRiddell: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/network/ktorrent/ChangeLog?revision=638530&view=markup09:10
nixternalthat is the only changelog I found09:10
Riddell"Rewrite of webserver"09:11
Riddell"New webgui : coldmilk"09:11
nixternalsounds scary09:11
Riddellwell that won't get past UVF09:11
nixternallovely changelog09:11
nixternalhehe, well, at least I got through another package :)09:12
Riddellnixternal: do you have an account on revu?09:14
mhbRiddell: by the way, how's the dist-upgrade tool? Ready for common testers yet?09:19
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nixternalRiddell: should I put that package on revu?09:21
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Riddellnixternal: yes, may as well keep your packages until feisty+109:23
Riddellmhb: looks like current is still out of date http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/dist-upgrader-all/09:24
Riddellmhb: and the new packages aren't in proposed09:24
mhbRiddell: too bad, I'd really like to get new testers aboard09:24
Riddellmhb: me too, it's very frustrating09:24
chavowhat do you need tested?09:25
Riddelledgy -> feisty upgrades09:26
Riddellbut the packages need to get through the soyuz blockage first09:26
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chavoI did dapper -> edgy -> fesity about a month ago as well09:27
chavoI'll do a edgy -? feisty later on tonight since my burner seems to be working again09:27
DaSkreechwarty -> galloping :)09:28
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mhbum... it may be stupid to bring it up again, but has anyone noticed my suggestion yesterday - changing the kubuntu-team LP emblem from a white-background Dapper one to a opaque-background Edgy one (and changing the favicon.ico for kubuntu.org as well)?09:32
chavook didn't have an edgy iso so I'm getting that now09:33
DaSkreechIs kaffiene supposed to prompt in fawn?09:34
chavoDaSkreech, I just removed libxine1-ffmpeg and I don't get a prompt09:36
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DaSkreechThe point is should it?09:37
chavonot sure09:38
_StefanS_I just updated to the last kdebase*13, and administrator mode (kdesu <command>) of the system-settings or kcontrol does not work anymore. Are any of you experiencing the same ?09:39
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imbrandonkwwii , ping09:49
imbrandonerr no kwwii09:49
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about networkinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
\shnetwork install?10:37
\shautomated installation, or more "my laptop can do pxe but doesn't have a cdrom and I need to boot the iso image from net?"10:38
DaSkreechinstalling over the network cause the burner seems to be sitting up on it's haunches beggign to play frisbee10:40
\shDaSkreech, on wiki.ubuntu.com there were some pages about this topic10:40
\shnetinstall or something search for it10:40
\shDaSkreech, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?highlight=%28netboot%2910:42
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DaSkreechIs there an option to skip downloading packages for the lIve CD instalelr?11:20
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alleeLure: digikam & digikamimageplugins: 0.9.1: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4549 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=455011:53
alleeedgy pkgs (simple rebuilds) are in my repo11:54
Lureallee: ok, will rebuild plugins now11:54
Lureallee: digikam is already on ftp if you want it for your repo11:54
alleeI'll download/uplaod11:55
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Lureallee: so plugins is not -1 (not in debian) ?11:58
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alleeLure: debian can't upload, because digikam is pending in debian's NEW.  See changelog ;)11:58
ypsilakwwii: ping11:58
Lureallee: right11:58
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kwwiiypsila: pong11:59
ypsilakwwii:  Gr Gott nach Bayern!11:59
LureRiddell: btw, kubuntu-desktop should probably just recommend gwenview & kipi-plugins (to allow removal by user)12:00
kwwiiypsila: servus :-)12:00
ypsilakwwii: we missed you in Chemnitz : http://www.kubuntu-de.org/image-galleries/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007?page=112:00
kwwiiypsila: yeah, sorry that I couldn't make it12:01
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kwwiiypsila: but I am glad to see that another bald guy showed up in my place12:02
ypsilakwwii: who?12:02
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kwwiiypsila: well, from the pics, there were several bald guys there12:03
ypsilakwwii: bald = graue / weie Haare, kubuntu had only guys with no hair at all :-)12:04
ypsilakwwii: 3 of them :-D12:04
kwwiigood to see pics of the opensuse guys, they are friends12:05
ypsilakwwii: what about Cebit? we spread roundabout 300 CD's in Chemnitz12:05
RiddellLure: ok12:05
kwwiiypsila: I can imagine12:05
LureRiddell: and add digikam back to recommends ;-)12:05
kwwiiypsila: I guess the next event I might take off work to attend would be berlin12:05
ypsilakwwii: it was a bit strange to have a both ubuntu/edubuntu/kubuntu12:05
ypsilarigth in front12:06
LureRiddell: btw, allee has prepared packages and they seems ready to be pushed12:06
RiddellI saw that12:06
LureRiddell: they are on the REVU and they need libkexiv2 waiting in new12:06
Riddellcompiling now12:06
LureRiddell: will you push this now12:06
ypsilakwwii: kde asked us for CD's they only had a mysterious novell-thing12:06
LureRiddell: do you know why we have imageplugins in universe and rest of it in main?12:07
RiddellLure: I will yes12:07
LureRiddell: plugins are core part of digikam (they will get merged back in kde4) and should be in main12:07
Riddellypsila: they did that at fosdem too, those CD cases miss explaining what they are (they also have a blatant GPL breach on the back)12:10
ypsilaRiddell: yes12:10
RiddellLure: 9MB, there's no space on the CD for them12:10
ypsilaI would like to know whether there is any possibility to get kubuntu CD's for Cebit12:10
LureRiddell: ok, but does this limit us to have it in main?12:10
RiddellLure: no, I think just nobody has done the main inclusion report12:10
Riddellypsila: via shipit12:10
LureRiddell: ok, will add MIR on my to-do list12:10
ypsilaRiddell: Cebit is March 15 - 21 March!12:11
Riddellypsila: not much time12:12
Riddellooh, a Kubuntu poster http://www.kubuntu-de.org/image-galleries/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007/dscf045312:12
ypsilaRiddell: ;-)12:12
ypsilait was great12:13
RiddellI don't recognise anyone in these photos12:13
ypsilaRiddell: better?12:15
Riddellooh, very handy :)12:15
Riddellquite a rocking community is kubuntu-de12:16
ypsilaRiddelll: ???12:16
Riddelllots of people doing cool stuff12:17
DaSkreechcan I skip the download updates in Live Cd installer?12:17
kwwiinice pic...mirjam grew her hair longer again12:17

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