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But I can explain to you what I have [11:31] what did you diff against? [11:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: a patched kdebase (make -f debian/rules apply-patches) [11:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: but that might be all wrong ofcourse [11:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: If you can walk me through it, I will be happy to make another one for you [11:33] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I did the following - diff -urN temp2/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver temp/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver (temp2 contains the "new" code, and temp is the patched standard kdebase*ubuntu12*) [11:33] hmm, that works [11:34] I wonder what was different the first time I tried [11:34] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you want me to send you the patches again ? [11:34] <_StefanS_> Riddell: as I wrote I have patches for both kdm and ksmserver [11:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: but the kdm thing has alot of stuff in there which I haven't touched, like those "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase"-lines [11:39] _StefanS_: got it now, thanks [11:39] <_StefanS_> Riddell: alright, good :) [11:40] compiling away [11:40] Riddell: are you busy now? [11:41] hm... since Tonio's not around, would anyone know if bug 67063 will be fixed for feisty? [11:41] Malone bug 67063 in kde-systemsettings "No way to alter Launch Feedback via System Settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67063 [11:46] <_StefanS_> Jucato: isn't that more of a feature, than a bug ? [11:46] _StefanS_: I don't understand why it would be a feature [11:47] freeflying: not especially [11:47] I thought that one of the purposes of System Settings is to include only those settings that can't be reached elsewhere, hence the Konqueror and Panel settings were removed [11:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well what I mean, is that the current system-settings doesn't support changing the launch feedback .. hence it is a feature that is missing. [11:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: but I know.. everything is always characterized as bugs ;) [11:48] um... you sort of lost me there... :) [11:48] <_StefanS_> who is actually developing on system-settings ? [11:49] nobody at the moment [11:49] <_StefanS_> oh.. [11:49] <_StefanS_> its c++ ,right ? [11:49] @_@ [11:49] _StefanS_: changing the menu layout is simple enough (it's in /etc/xdg) [11:49] yes. but I think in this case only the .menu needs to be changed === Jucato actually made it before... but... === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:50] <_StefanS_> hmm I will look at it.. just have to do some work first [11:50] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oka [11:51] _StefanS_: if you do put it back, imho it would be best placed under the Notifications group (KControl places it in Appearances & Themes) [11:51] oh bah.. I mentioned that in the report :P [11:51] <_StefanS_> well where is the notifications ? .. [11:51] <_StefanS_> I dont have it in my current system-settings [11:52] <_StefanS_> General: Personal, Look & feel, computer adminstration, Network and connect. ; Advanced: System administration, Advanced user settings [11:52] <\sh> Riddell, could you add the kppp patch (nozomi devices) to kdenetwork (so, we can provide support for nozomi umts cards?) [11:52] _StefanS_: Look & Feel [11:53] last one in the row [11:53] <_StefanS_> ah I get it [11:53] \sh: i thought we had, let me check [11:53] _StefanS_: hm.. I should have said, "Notifications settings under the Look & Feel group". :D [11:53] <_StefanS_> Jucato: probably 8) [11:54] <\sh> Riddell, nope...feisties kppp doesn't have /dev/nozX where 0>=X<=4 ,-) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180098207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:57] <_StefanS_> Jucato: if its only a menu file that needs to be changed, could you do it ? [11:57] sebas, Lure: I uploaded kpowersave-0.7.2 to experimental today. [11:58] It's the first version which drops the dependency on powersaved and does everything through HAL now [11:58] _StefanS_: I actually don't know how to properly create a diff. last time I did, I think I messed it up... sorry... [11:58] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kpowersave/current/changelog [11:58] It should integrate much better into Kubuntu now (using acpi-support etc.) [11:58] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I can help you with that... I'm good at screwing up diff files [11:58] hahah [12:00] <_StefanS_> Jucato: make the stuff so it works, and then well screw up that diff together afterwards.. [12:00] Riddell: who do I have to bribe to get kpowersave-0.7.2 into feisty ;-) [12:00] <_StefanS_> well/we'll [12:00] _StefanS_: digging up my work. hope I saved it :D [12:00] ooh looks like I did... wait [12:02] mbiebl: this kpowersave? https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpowersave/0.7.2-0ubuntu1 [12:02] s/beta.// [12:03] I get a restricted login... [12:03] remove the beta [12:04] yeah, it is. [12:04] But mine is a bit more polished ;-) [12:05] 0ubuntu1 still references powersave in the description, is missing a versioned dep on hal etc. [12:06] mbiebl: send a debdiff and I'll upload [12:06] mbiebl: Cool, can't wait to try it [12:06] \sh: kdenetwork uploaded, sorry for the delay [12:07] <\sh> Riddell, no prob...thx :) === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:18] _StefanS_: can you please check if I did this properly? I diff'ed against the orig systemsettings (kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104.orig.tar.gz from feisty) http://jucato.org/stuff/system-settings-menu.diff === Jucato crosses his fingers and prays.... === Jucato goes for dinner... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mars [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-114-156.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54956266.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:30] what's the status of the 'view' menu in adept? === matlec [n=matlec@HSI-KBW-091-089-080-134.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I will check it [12:44] <_StefanS_> Jucato: seems to work fine === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] <_StefanS_> Riddell: sent you a mail [12:52] heya _StefanS_ [12:59] hi Hobbsee! [12:59] hey Jucato! === Hobbsee hasnt burned down the house yet :P [12:59] cooking? :D [01:00] yep [01:01] hehe ) [01:01] :) [01:02] ow...stuff out fo the oven is *very hot* [01:02] ooh... must still be smoking :) [01:02] hehe [01:02] herb bread :) === Hobbsee both loves and hates working at a supermarket. [01:03] how much "herb" do you put in the bread? [01:03] :-) === Jucato waves hi to kwwii [01:03] howdy Jucato [01:03] kwwii: didnt make it myself :P [01:04] :-) [01:04] she implied she lifted it from the supermarket [01:04] er.. s/lifted/bought/ [01:04] stole it from work [01:04] uh yeah. bought [01:04] we have a manager who likes spying on us. [01:04] ah thought they were freebies :) [01:04] mbiebl: thanks, we already have version in feisty, but I will check your version and merge if needed [01:04] not usually [01:04] heya Lure! [01:05] hi Hobbsee [01:05] kwwii: how is the artowrk for Kubuntu feist (aside from the bootsplash)? and how's the O2 spec (just saw it in the wiki while browsing around) [01:06] It's mainly the package desciption and a versioned dependency on hal === Hobbsee was wondering that... [01:06] Riddell: digikam is released, so I hope we can prepare packages tonight with allee [01:06] _StefanS_: it works? kool... now don't ask me to make a debdiff :) [01:06] Lure: yay! [01:06] I all added 04-default_config.patch [01:06] Lure: how's the MOTU stuff, btw? [01:06] Lure: yay! [01:06] Lure: prepare, test, ask, upload [01:06] s/ask/sweet talk/ [01:06] which sets some default values in /etc/kde3/kpowersaverc [01:06] perhaps [01:06] Lure, Riddell: 0.9.1 final is on my todo for tonight [01:07] Hobbsee: got +3 already, not sure if they will wait for full 2 weeks - was out for weekend so I did not check [01:07] :) [01:07] oh, for a SRU? [01:07] allee: great [01:07] allee: we should probably ship new exiv2 0.13 mess... [01:08] Lure: I was not online over the weekend. But afaik there a soname change involved. I'll check to night after 0.9.1 final pkgs [01:15] Hobbsee: How would I fix but 89514? === ryanakca did the changes in k-d-s, had them reviewed, and commited them... but what went wrong? [01:15] bug 89514 [01:15] Malone bug 89514 in kubuntu-default-settings "polyesterstylerc contains merge junk (in feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89514 [01:16] i'm not sure, i dont use bzr much. === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.218.227.109] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:16] ryanakca: seems fixed in the latest upload [01:16] ah, good === ryanakca sets it to confirmed and released [01:17] or commited [01:17] released [01:18] done === ryanakca heads out, school [01:21] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I already did, and sent it to Riddell [01:22] wow! that fast? :D [01:23] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yep, I sort of had the instructions on how to do that debdiff, so hopefully it wont cause probs for Riddell [01:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: make the changes, dch -i, debuild -S, cd .. ; debdiff *dsc > file.debdif [01:25] it also needs to go into KDE SVN [01:25] <_StefanS_> oh [01:25] the question is why that wasn't in there in the first place [01:25] <_StefanS_> yea, seems odd really [01:25] Riddell: last time I talked to el (months ago), she didn't know that there was no other place where you can control Launch Feedback [01:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you got access to commit it to kde svn ? [01:26] sure [01:26] <_StefanS_> good i will leave you to do that :) [01:27] <_StefanS_> I'm going back to sleep on the couch.. be back in 30 mins or so [01:27] <_StefanS_> the kid is keeping me up all night ;( [01:28] uploaded, thanks _StefanS_, Jucato [01:28] thanks Riddell! :) === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DA5A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] _StefanS_: aren't you working on the shutdown/restart/... dialog? [02:11] not any more, it's a work of perfection :) [02:11] _StefanS_: The buttons in the dialog don't accept only : Using contrl-alt-del. Move the keyboard focus with the ,, press => Dialog is canceled === francis [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:14] allee: the Enter key vs Space has been fixed [02:14] Jucato: ah, lot's of changes over the weekend ;) Thx [02:17] allee: something like this one? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080316.0 [02:18] Jucato: busy rn. I check later . Thx [02:19] ok. that's the one he fixed === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm235.omega19.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] nixternal: i'm mentioned by name in your blog? *g* [02:41] hahah :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [02:48] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I get some errors regarding the build of kde-system-settings, the thing is - you sort off submitted them :D [02:49] um... something wrong I did? :( [02:49] <_StefanS_> Jucato: probably me screwing up the debdiff :) [02:51] Riddell: before I push a new kubuntu-default-settings all I have to do is update the changelog? [02:51] or is there more to it? [02:52] <_StefanS_> kwwii: im anxious to see the final logo... is it done yet? is it ? ha? [02:52] _StefanS_: I was just about to push the new usplash [02:52] <_StefanS_> sweeegt [02:53] :) === Jucato just read some of the Kubuntu Artwork-related pages and is a bit excited [02:55] <_StefanS_> Jucato: give me the url :D [02:56] _StefanS_: no artwork. more like specs... [02:56] heck, give me it, I would like to see it too [02:56] or a "vision" [02:56] ahhhh [02:56] heheh [02:56] <_StefanS_> well gimme! [02:56] <_StefanS_> wake up Jucato [02:56] <_StefanS_> :D [02:56] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Documentation/KubuntuPhilosophy [02:56] O2 [02:57] but isn't Ozone "O" only? [02:57] yeah, funny that [02:58] ok, I hope that all I have to do is make my changes and update the changelog [02:58] Ozone is O3 ;) [02:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: can you gimme a screenshot of the bootsplash ? [02:59] oh hi abattoir [02:59] _StefanS_: nope, I haven't installed the pics anywhere yet [02:59] <_StefanS_> what da.. [02:59] <_StefanS_> hmm I have to wait then [02:59] :( [02:59] _StefanS_: but I just pushed a kubuntu-default-settings with the changes [02:59] hello Jucato, kwwii, _StefanS_ [02:59] howdy abattoir [03:00] btw, I was thinking, wouldn't it be a nice thing to have a page where we could put up all the artwork that was used in Kubuntu? === _StefanS_ is doing apt-get update [03:00] <_StefanS_> no where is it [03:00] <_StefanS_> no/now [03:00] Jucato: sure, if someone wanted to make one :-) [03:00] (hint, hint) [03:00] hm... a simple wiki page would probably do... [03:01] _StefanS_: it won't be in an update yet === Jucato thinks... [03:01] you could download the package from launchpad or bzr though) [03:01] thought there wsa one for edgy [03:01] Hobbsee: yeah, that was back when we were supposed to discuss the artwork :p [03:02] hehe [03:02] kwwii: what, you mean you arnet still? === Jucato was mostly interested in the official artwork used, but other contributed artworks would be nice too [03:02] bug #89405 [03:02] Malone bug 89405 in beryl-core "[apport] beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89405 [03:02] doesn't imbrandon have a site like that? for *buntu artwokr? [03:02] artwork* [03:02] hi Hobbsee [03:02] <_StefanS_> kaworth [03:02] hey abattoir [03:02] Jucato: buntudot? no [03:03] no something else... [03:03] *staging* something... [03:03] ubuntuwire [03:03] abattoir: thanks [03:04] art.ubuntu.com [03:04] oh, that... [03:04] http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php and http://art-staging.ubuntu.com/main.php [03:04] seems like the pages exist already :) [03:04] my bad [03:04] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/89858 looks fun [03:04] Malone bug 89858 in kdebase "Bad documentation in README.Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] kwwii: did you make a new branch? [03:08] kwwii: you can just checkout and commit === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950F978.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] <_StefanS_> Riddell: did you see those compile errors for the system-settings ? its related to that final patch it tries to apply.. [03:10] _StefanS_: blurg === \sh_away is now known as \sh [03:10] <_StefanS_> Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6629150/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [03:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: does it have something to do with me not doing apply-patches prior to creating the diff ? :) [03:15] <_StefanS_> stupid debdiff's :D [03:15] <_StefanS_> or me hehe === Jucato prays... === _StefanS_ sleeps... === neutraloss [n=neutralo@rrcs-24-97-98-201.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] Riddell: pushed a branch a while ago [03:16] Riddell: let me know if I messed something up :-) [03:16] I removed one pic but couldn't find it mentioned in any other file [03:17] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I trust it you got the colors working in those logos, since you're ready to release them ? [03:18] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I should have put your email in the changelog so you would get spammed on those builderrors :) [03:18] roflmao === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@cm235.omega19.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] thank goodness you didn't :) === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] <\sh> hey kwwii :) [03:19] <_StefanS_> Jucato: wasn't mao a dictator in your country (or nearby?) :D [03:19] lol [03:20] country nearby. that would be china :) [03:20] <_StefanS_> well you're closer than me, so it must be near you [03:20] howdy \sh [03:21] hahah [03:21] hehehe [03:21] Riddell: oops, live and learn :-) [03:21] _StefanS_: yeah, that logo works at 256 colors === _StefanS_ would like to donate an extra hamster to the compile farm [03:24] i'll donate a 6pack [03:24] <\sh> kwwii, are you in berlin (LT?) [03:24] \sh: been thinking about going, yeah [03:24] _StefanS_: hamster? [03:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: err.. cpu :D [03:25] aaah lol [03:25] <_StefanS_> hamster dance takes atleast two.. [03:25] <\sh> kwwii, cool, I'm reserving some holidays for it..time to do some kubuntu/ubuntu booth love again ;) [03:26] hehe, sounds like it will be a good time [03:27] <\sh> kwwii, sure :) another good thing is, I can visit some friends in berlin :) [03:27] \sh: that is part of the reason I'll go as well :-) [03:27] no need for a hotel [03:27] <\sh> kwwii, hehe yeah :) [03:28] <\sh> kwwii, and I can introduce my girlfriend to you geeks ,-) [03:28] lol [03:29] I am an artist, not a geek [03:29] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I heard you were a geek [03:29] <_StefanS_> cant remember from whom :) [03:29] <\sh> kwwii, if there is ever an artist who I can name "geek", then it must be you ;) [03:30] why is the "full upgrade" trying to remove gaim ? [03:31] <\sh> "remove gaim" "install kopete" ,-> [03:31] ahhh [03:31] <_StefanS_> neutraloss: because you're upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu [03:31] <_StefanS_> neutraloss: nah dont know :D [03:31] Nay i'm using Kubuntu :) [03:31] I just happened to be using gaim instead of kopete [03:31] <_StefanS_> I could offer you a hamster ? [03:32] Certainly [03:32] <_StefanS_> hehe [03:32] _StefanS_: me me me! :) [03:32] <_StefanS_> cant you just install gaim afterwards ? [03:32] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hey, I know you... you want dual hamsters [03:32] I will, or i'll try kopete again [03:32] :D [03:32] <_StefanS_> or a quad hamster [03:32] <_StefanS_> haha [03:32] hum, I wonder if any of these updates to xserver fixes the xgl problem [03:33] <_StefanS_> well enough fun, this is a serious channel. [03:33] let there be no more talk of hamsters or other furry rodents [03:34] _StefanS_: a hamster I could carry around :D [03:35] upgrade from ff4 to ff5 is automatic via repos n'est pas? [03:35] oui [03:36] (the only other French word I know) [03:41] What's the mailing list for changelogs to repos? is that the best way to keep informed? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] Heya [03:53] hi bddebian! [03:54] saw your name in nixternal's blog post? [03:54] neutraloss: feisty-changes [03:54] Heya Jucato [03:54] My name? [03:55] "Well during this time I also hooked up with people like Jordan Mantha, Daniel T. Chen, Brandon Holtsclaw, Sarah Hobbs, Jonathan Riddell, and many many more (bddebian boo!)." - http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.03.04/free-software-community/ [03:55] heh === kdefreak [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] kwwii: revive the ubuntu-calendar project :) [04:08] Daskreech2: great idea, but never going to happen, I think [04:08] too many political/cultural burdens on that one [04:12] I must have missed the politics [04:13] I must have missed the topic... === Jucato doesn't know what ubuntu-calendar is... [04:16] Jucato: naked people! [04:16] oooh lol :) [04:18] I think it was the week before Ubuntu shipped they pulled the calendar because people thought it was offensive [04:18] Jucato: It's the reason why many people characterize Ubuntu as a set of bottoms touching === Daskreech2 is now known as DaSkreech [04:19] so that's the origin of the "naked people" nickname :D [04:19] Yeah [04:19] sabdfl was a bit upset because it was one of the core marketing thingys [04:20] So they worked around it by implementing the famed well renowned long lived ubuntu-calendar package [04:20] Which delivered a new wallpaper every month [04:21] Wallpapers suspiciously similar in vein to the ones proposed by sabdfl :) [04:21] ran for 4 months then never got updated again [04:22] :) [04:22] I don't think that we have to go with "human" suggestive pictures of konqi kwwii. The idea of a rotating set of pictures around the kubuntu philosophy isn't too bad an idea I think [04:22] Is there a way to edit status messages in Kopete? [04:22] I seem to only be able to create new ones [04:22] alt+f -> M [04:22] ah [04:23] DaSkreech: sure, but there is also a lot of work involved in getting that right [04:23] no clue. You put your first draft of a book as your status message? [04:23] no, but I mistyped [04:23] kwwii: doesn't stop it from being a goal [04:23] DaSkreech: true, but I think the best way for us to start is to pick the low hanging fruit [04:24] and I suspect that if we have guidelines as to what's acceptable and looked for we can get submissions from the community [04:24] kwwii: Oh no doubt [04:24] say a goal for Leaping lizards or Jumpin jehosphat? [04:35] Riddell/Everybody else: have any tasks that I can do? (Seeing that I'm at school, I've finished the assignment given, and the teacher doesn't have any more to hand out?) I have half an hour to kill [04:35] heh [04:35] DaSkreech: sure, if we could guarantee that the quality is good enough === kdefreak looks at the bugs === DaSkreech looks suspciously at gnom...Umm kdefreak [04:36] lol === kdefreak waves to his computer at home... hey ryanakca === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:40] kwwii: well it would obviously have to have a period of approval [04:41] kwwii: I'm just thinking that if a community could be built that is self critical and self motivated we could get some good high quality work [04:41] plus it's a area of OSS that needs more people attracted to it and having a showcase for them is a good idea [04:42] and fits into both KDE's and Kubuntu's greater goals [04:42] all true === DaSkreech jots this down [04:43] Ctrl+Shift+W :) === Riddelll [n=jr@212-139-35-151.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] time to go my wife's grandfathers 98th birthday [04:46] bbl === \sh_away is now known as \sh [04:52] ryanakca: you could fix https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/57102 [04:52] Malone bug 57102 in kubuntu-default-settings "Kubuntu 6.06 locale problem: package doesn't get installed when it is in a directory with spaces on its name" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:52] it's kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop in k-d-s === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kdefreak out for lunch, bbl [05:15] Riddell: kk, I'll fix it when I get home, thanks :) === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.138.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-200-99.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@STRATTON-SEVEN-THIRTY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180106039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ is now known as jdong === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:01] good evening folks [06:03] good evening mhb [06:03] Lure: did you get my image yesterday? [06:04] mhb: no, was just connected but did not look into scroll back before reboot [06:04] Lure: wait then, I'll find the line [06:05] 20:47 < mhb> Lure: modified my battery suggestion to fit your needs: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7243/batteryscreenshot5mb2.png <-- that should be it [06:06] mhb: what is the gray line in battery for? [06:07] mhb: blue is not bad as it does not pop out of kicker too much, but you would really need to talk with kwwii regarding this === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] Lure: yeah, well of course I talked to him about this, he said we should show it to the people around and see what they think [06:08] mhb: I still think that the label messes up the usability of that icon [06:08] the little grey label around the battery [06:08] kwwii: okay then [06:08] I'll make another one without it [06:08] mhb: that is label? [06:09] mhb: that is really not obvious... [06:09] kwwii: it seems that the icon is so small that people can't recognize it [06:09] (the label) [06:09] mhb: I think the current one is quite recognizable === Lure has 145 DPI screen, so might not be best candidate to judge though [06:10] mhb: o, you are talking about label - yep, cannot put much in these limited pixels [06:10] Lure: it is, but the color isn't consistent much [06:11] Lure: that's why I tried to find another, more fitting icon [06:12] Lure: but if you prefer to keep the old one, just say so [06:13] the blue isn't that easy to pick out against the grey [06:13] Lure: if it's just me that dislikes it, I can live with it [06:13] mhb: if you remove the label (which is confusing), I am fine with old or your's ;-) [06:18] Lure: yeah, but that's not enough for changing it [06:19] Lure: if there is nobody other than me who does want to change the old one, there's no reason in changing it [06:28] seele: there is a mii nieghbourhood if you like === mbiebl [n=michael@e180106039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-THREE-EIGHTY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Feb 22 16:32:11 2007 === glatzor_ [n=sebi@p57AEDE95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor_ is now known as glatzor_unterweg === pascalFR [i=S0UK8pwo@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:57] new ktorrent out, any packaging volunteers? === DaSkreech watches everyone step back except nixternal === nixternal takes a look at it [07:58] holy cow [07:58] ha ha :) [07:58] DaSkreech: how did you know that? [07:58] that is nuts [07:59] I am not doing it now! [07:59] ;p [07:59] Noooooo [07:59] hehe [08:00] Hobbsee will use that pointy stick again [08:00] I am not scared [08:00] d'oh === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] I still have marks from last time in places I won't let my doctor look at [08:00] someone remove that from the logs [08:00] strike my last :) [08:00] haha === glatzor_unterweg [n=sebi@p57AEDE95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] Riddell: -v2.1.1-0ubuntu1 correct for version? [08:06] Riddell: can you push updated libkexiv2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4530 [08:06] Riddell: previous upload from Tonio_ is still in new queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libkexiv2 [08:07] Riddell: do we need MIR (as this is cut-out code of digikam already in main)? [08:08] test building KTorrent right now, when done I will go ahead and debdiff it for you Riddell [08:13] What's the new stuff on KTorrent [08:18] nixternal: yes [08:18] Lure: shouldn't do no [08:19] roger that, should be done shortly. I will upload to my server so you can grab it === Kurtber [n=kurtber@ti400720a081-10190.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] telling me to use unsermake instead of make [08:26] nixternal: do you have unsermake installed? [08:26] yes [08:26] nixternal: remove it! [08:27] unsermake is obsolete [08:27] WARNING: use unsermake instead of make or use a wrapper script, e.g. makeobj!!! [08:27] /home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake all [08:27] /bin/bash: /home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake: No such file or directory [08:27] sudo apt-get remove unsermake [08:27] make -f debian/rules buildprep [08:28] testroot error [08:29] install fakeroot [08:29] fakeroot make -f debian/rules buildprep [08:29] rock on [08:31] Lure, allee: libkexiv2 uploaded, assuing it'll work to overwrite something already in NEW [08:32] Riddell: will see in queue (maybe archive-admin might need to reject previoue upload) [08:35] Riddell: I see that your kde4 is also stuck in queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@C2844.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:41] Should kaffiene prompt to install libxine-extracodecs? === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-114-156.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:54] definitely working now, that's for sure [08:55] DaSkreech: that needs to be fixed, it should be libxine-ffmpeg now [08:56] Whatever :) I'm asking if it should prompt to install that if you run a Xvid video for example [08:56] Can I reinitialize the mouse? [09:00] Riddell: uploading now [09:00] installed here locally, and working. So I guess that is a good sign ;) [09:01] nixternal: have you found a changelog? [09:02] found a changelog? [09:02] for KTorrent? [09:02] there is one on their website === nixternal checks for NEWS [09:03] nixternal: URL? [09:04] NEWS file is empty [09:05] you said there was one on their website [09:06] I thought there was one, they used to have links to them, it seems they have changed their webpage and just list the changes on the front page [09:06] http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/ktorrent [09:06] ^^ there is the new package [09:06] all files including a debdiff [09:10] Riddell: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/network/ktorrent/ChangeLog?revision=638530&view=markup [09:10] that is the only changelog I found [09:11] "Rewrite of webserver" [09:11] eek [09:11] lol [09:11] "New webgui : coldmilk" [09:11] sounds scary [09:11] well that won't get past UVF [09:11] lovely changelog [09:12] hehe, well, at least I got through another package :) [09:14] nixternal: do you have an account on revu? [09:17] yes [09:19] Riddell: by the way, how's the dist-upgrade tool? Ready for common testers yet? === mhb keeps asking until he gets the desired answer :o) [09:21] Riddell: should I put that package on revu? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-83-169.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:23] nixternal: yes, may as well keep your packages until feisty+1 [09:24] mhb: looks like current is still out of date http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/dist-upgrader-all/ [09:24] mhb: and the new packages aren't in proposed [09:24] Riddell: too bad, I'd really like to get new testers aboard [09:24] mhb: me too, it's very frustrating [09:25] what do you need tested? [09:26] edgy -> feisty upgrades [09:26] but the packages need to get through the soyuz blockage first [09:26] ok === nixternal was able to upgrade from edgy to feisty via dist-upgrade over a month ago "successfully" [09:27] I did dapper -> edgy -> fesity about a month ago as well [09:27] I'll do a edgy -? feisty later on tonight since my burner seems to be working again [09:28] warty -> galloping :) [09:29] lol === nixternal heads out [09:32] um... it may be stupid to bring it up again, but has anyone noticed my suggestion yesterday - changing the kubuntu-team LP emblem from a white-background Dapper one to a opaque-background Edgy one (and changing the favicon.ico for kubuntu.org as well)? [09:33] ok didn't have an edgy iso so I'm getting that now [09:34] Is kaffiene supposed to prompt in fawn? [09:36] DaSkreech, I just removed libxine1-ffmpeg and I don't get a prompt === \sh_away is now known as \sh === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] The point is should it? [09:38] not sure [09:39] <_StefanS_> I just updated to the last kdebase*13, and administrator mode (kdesu ) of the system-settings or kcontrol does not work anymore. Are any of you experiencing the same ? === _StefanS_ might have screwed up some configs :D === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon yawns [09:49] kwwii , ping [09:49] err no kwwii === imbrandon frowns === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11fat0c.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955C82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:36] !networkinstall [10:36]