[01:11] <jdong> LongPointyStick: medibuntu turns on MP4 support
[01:11] <jdong> AAC support
[01:11] <jdong> grr lontra ^^
[01:11] <jdong> stupid tab
[01:11] <jdong> so medibuntu's supports editing mp4/m4a/m4v tags and getting proper length info
[02:01] <ryanakca> LongPointyStick: How would I fix but 89514?
[04:35] <Jucato> moin Hobbsee!
[04:38] <Hobbsee> heya Jucato!
[08:56] <Jucato> moin _StefanS_
[08:57] <_StefanS_> morning :)
[11:29] <Riddell> _StefanS_: I can't work out how to apply the patches you sent me
[11:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I must have done them wrong
[11:30] <Riddell> _StefanS_: can you send me a replacement for the current
[11:30] <Riddell> kubuntu_89_new_logout_ui.diff
[11:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well thats what I tried, but i can never get debdiff to work properly
[11:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thats why I sent you regular diffs. But I can explain to you what I have
[11:31] <Riddell> what did you diff against?
[11:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: a patched kdebase (make -f debian/rules apply-patches)
[11:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: but that might be all wrong ofcourse
[11:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: If you can walk me through it, I will be happy to make another one for you
[11:33] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I did the following - diff -urN temp2/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver temp/kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver (temp2 contains the "new" code, and temp is the patched standard kdebase*ubuntu12*)
[11:33] <Riddell> hmm, that works
[11:34] <Riddell> I wonder what was different the first time I tried
[11:34] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you want me to send you the patches again ?
[11:34] <_StefanS_> Riddell: as I wrote I have patches for both kdm and ksmserver
[11:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: but the kdm thing has alot of stuff in there which I haven't touched, like those "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase"-lines
[11:39] <Riddell> _StefanS_: got it now, thanks
[11:39] <_StefanS_> Riddell: alright, good :)
[11:40] <Riddell> compiling away
[11:40] <freeflying> Riddell: are you busy now?
[11:41] <Jucato> hm... since Tonio's not around, would anyone know if bug 67063 will be fixed for feisty?
[11:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67063 in kde-systemsettings "No way to alter Launch Feedback via System Settings" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67063
[11:46] <_StefanS_> Jucato: isn't that more of a feature, than a bug ?
[11:46] <Jucato> _StefanS_: I don't understand why it would be a feature
[11:47] <Riddell> freeflying: not especially
[11:47] <Jucato> I thought that one of the purposes of System Settings is to include only those settings that can't be reached elsewhere, hence the Konqueror and Panel settings were removed
[11:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well what I mean, is that the current system-settings doesn't support changing the launch feedback .. hence it is a feature that is missing.
[11:48] <_StefanS_> Jucato: but I know.. everything is always characterized as bugs ;)
[11:48] <Jucato> um... you sort of lost me there... :)
[11:48] <_StefanS_> who is actually developing on system-settings ?
[11:49] <Riddell> nobody at the moment
[11:49] <_StefanS_> oh..
[11:49] <_StefanS_> its c++ ,right ?
[11:49] <Jucato> @_@
[11:49] <Riddell> _StefanS_: changing the menu layout is simple enough (it's in /etc/xdg)
[11:49] <Jucato> yes. but I think in this case only the .menu needs to be changed
[11:50] <_StefanS_> hmm I will look at it.. just have to do some work first
[11:50] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oka
[11:51] <Jucato> _StefanS_: if you do put it back, imho it would be best placed under the Notifications group (KControl places it in Appearances & Themes)
[11:51] <Jucato> oh bah.. I mentioned that in the report :P
[11:51] <_StefanS_> well where is the notifications ? ..
[11:51] <_StefanS_> I dont have it in my current system-settings
[11:52] <_StefanS_> General: Personal, Look & feel, computer adminstration, Network and connect. ; Advanced: System administration, Advanced user settings
[11:52] <\sh> Riddell, could you add the kppp patch (nozomi devices) to kdenetwork (so, we can provide support for nozomi umts cards?)
[11:52] <Jucato> _StefanS_: Look & Feel
[11:53] <Jucato> last one in the row
[11:53] <_StefanS_> ah I get it
[11:53] <Riddell> \sh: i thought we had, let me check
[11:53] <Jucato> _StefanS_: hm.. I should have said, "Notifications settings under the Look & Feel group". :D
[11:53] <_StefanS_> Jucato: probably 8)
[11:54] <\sh> Riddell, nope...feisties kppp doesn't have /dev/nozX where 0>=X<=4 ,-)
[11:57] <_StefanS_> Jucato: if its only a menu file that needs to be changed, could you do it ?
[11:57] <mbiebl> sebas, Lure: I uploaded kpowersave-0.7.2 to experimental today.
[11:58] <mbiebl> It's the first version which drops the dependency on powersaved and does everything through HAL now
[11:58] <Jucato> _StefanS_: I actually don't know how to properly create a diff. last time I did, I think I messed it up... sorry...
[11:58] <mbiebl> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kpowersave/current/changelog
[11:58] <mbiebl> It should integrate much better into Kubuntu now (using acpi-support etc.)
[11:58] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I can help you with that... I'm good at screwing up diff files
[11:58] <Jucato> hahah
[12:00] <_StefanS_> Jucato: make the stuff so it works, and then well screw up that diff together afterwards..
[12:00] <mbiebl> Riddell: who do I have to bribe to get kpowersave-0.7.2 into feisty ;-)
[12:00] <_StefanS_> well/we'll
[12:00] <Jucato> _StefanS_: digging up my work. hope I saved it :D
[12:00] <Jucato> ooh looks like I did... wait
[12:02] <Riddell> mbiebl: this kpowersave? https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpowersave/0.7.2-0ubuntu1
[12:02] <Riddell> s/beta.//
[12:03] <mbiebl> I get a restricted login...
[12:03] <Riddell> remove the beta
[12:04] <mbiebl> yeah, it is.
[12:04] <mbiebl> But mine is a bit more polished ;-)
[12:05] <mbiebl> 0ubuntu1 still references powersave in the description, is missing a versioned dep on hal etc.
[12:06] <Riddell> mbiebl: send a debdiff and I'll upload
[12:06] <sebas> mbiebl: Cool, can't wait to try it
[12:06] <Riddell> \sh: kdenetwork uploaded, sorry for the delay
[12:07] <\sh> Riddell, no prob...thx :)
[12:18] <Jucato> _StefanS_: can you please check if I did this properly? I diff'ed against the orig systemsettings (kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104.orig.tar.gz from feisty) http://jucato.org/stuff/system-settings-menu.diff
[12:30] <xerosis> what's the status of the 'view' menu in adept?
[12:40] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I will check it
[12:44] <_StefanS_> Jucato: seems to work fine
[12:50] <_StefanS_> Riddell: sent you a mail
[12:52] <Hobbsee> heya _StefanS_
[12:59] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[12:59] <Jucato> cooking? :D
[01:00] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:01] <Jucato> hehe )
[01:01] <Jucato> :)
[01:02] <Hobbsee> ow...stuff out fo the oven is *very hot*
[01:02] <Jucato> ooh... must still be smoking :)
[01:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:02] <Hobbsee> herb bread :)
[01:03] <kwwii> how much "herb" do you put in the bread?
[01:03] <kwwii>  :-)
[01:03] <kwwii> howdy Jucato
[01:03] <Hobbsee> kwwii: didnt make it myself :P
[01:04] <kwwii> :-)
[01:04] <Jucato> she implied she lifted it from the supermarket
[01:04] <Jucato> er.. s/lifted/bought/
[01:04] <kwwii> stole it from work
[01:04] <Hobbsee> uh yeah.  bought
[01:04] <Hobbsee> we have a manager who likes spying on us.
[01:04] <Jucato> ah thought they were freebies :)
[01:04] <Lure> mbiebl: thanks, we already have version in feisty, but I will check your version and merge if needed
[01:04] <Hobbsee> not usually
[01:04] <Hobbsee> heya Lure!
[01:05] <Lure> hi Hobbsee
[01:05] <Jucato> kwwii: how is the artowrk for Kubuntu feist (aside from the bootsplash)? and how's the O2 spec (just saw it in the wiki while browsing around)
[01:06] <mbiebl> It's mainly the package desciption and a versioned dependency on hal
[01:06] <Lure> Riddell: digikam is released, so I hope we can prepare packages tonight with allee
[01:06] <Jucato> _StefanS_: it works? kool... now don't ask me to make a debdiff :)
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Lure: yay!
[01:06] <mbiebl> I all added 04-default_config.patch
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Lure: how's the MOTU stuff, btw?
[01:06] <Riddell> Lure: yay!
[01:06] <Riddell> Lure: prepare, test, ask, upload
[01:06] <Hobbsee> s/ask/sweet talk/
[01:06] <mbiebl> which sets some default values in /etc/kde3/kpowersaverc
[01:06] <Hobbsee> perhaps
[01:06] <allee> Lure, Riddell: 0.9.1 final is on my todo for tonight
[01:07] <Lure> Hobbsee: got +3 already, not sure if they will wait for full 2 weeks - was out for weekend so I did not check
[01:07] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> oh, for a SRU?
[01:07] <Lure> allee: great
[01:07] <Lure> allee: we should probably ship new exiv2 0.13 mess...
[01:08] <allee> Lure: I was not online over the weekend.  But afaik there a soname change involved.  I'll check to night after 0.9.1 final pkgs
[01:15] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: How would I fix but 89514?
[01:15] <ryanakca> bug 89514
[01:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89514 in kubuntu-default-settings "polyesterstylerc contains merge junk (in feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89514
[01:16] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure, i dont use bzr much.
[01:16] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: seems fixed in the latest upload
[01:16] <ryanakca> ah, good 
[01:17] <ryanakca> or commited
[01:17] <Hobbsee> released
[01:18] <ryanakca> done
[01:21] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I already did, and sent it to Riddell
[01:22] <Jucato> wow! that fast? :D
[01:23] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yep, I sort of had the instructions on how to do that debdiff, so hopefully it wont cause probs for Riddell
[01:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: make the changes, dch -i, debuild -S, cd .. ; debdiff *dsc > file.debdif
[01:25] <Riddell> it also needs to go into KDE SVN
[01:25] <_StefanS_> oh
[01:25] <Riddell> the question is why that wasn't in there in the first place
[01:25] <_StefanS_> yea, seems odd really
[01:25] <Jucato> Riddell: last time I talked to el (months ago), she didn't know that there was no other place where you can control Launch Feedback
[01:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you got access to commit it to kde svn ?
[01:26] <Riddell> sure
[01:26] <_StefanS_> good i will leave you to do that :)
[01:27] <_StefanS_> I'm going back to sleep on the couch.. be back in 30 mins or so
[01:27] <_StefanS_> the kid is keeping me up all night ;(
[01:28] <Riddell> uploaded, thanks _StefanS_, Jucato
[01:28] <Jucato> thanks Riddell! :)
[02:09] <allee> _StefanS_: aren't you working on the shutdown/restart/... dialog?
[02:11] <Riddell> not any more, it's a work of perfection :)
[02:11] <allee> _StefanS_: The buttons in the dialog don't accept <Return> only <Space>:  Using contrl-alt-del.  Move the keyboard focus with the <Left>,<Right>, press <Return> => Dialog is canceled
[02:14] <Jucato> allee: the Enter key vs Space has been fixed
[02:14] <allee> Jucato: ah, lot's of changes over the weekend ;)  Thx
[02:17] <Jucato> allee: something like this one? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080316.0
[02:18] <allee> Jucato: busy rn. I check later . Thx
[02:19] <Jucato> ok. that's the one he fixed
[02:41] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i'm mentioned by name in your blog?  *g*
[02:41] <Jucato> hahah :)
[02:48] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I get some errors regarding the build of kde-system-settings, the thing is - you sort off submitted them :D
[02:49] <Jucato> um... something wrong I did? :(
[02:49] <_StefanS_> Jucato: probably me screwing up the debdiff :)
[02:51] <kwwii> Riddell: before I push a new kubuntu-default-settings all I have to do is update the changelog?
[02:51] <kwwii> or is there more to it?
[02:52] <_StefanS_> kwwii: im anxious to see the final logo... is it done yet? is it ? ha?
[02:52] <kwwii> _StefanS_: I was just about to push the new usplash
[02:52] <_StefanS_> sweeegt
[02:53] <Jucato> :)
[02:55] <_StefanS_> Jucato: give me the url :D
[02:56] <Jucato> _StefanS_: no artwork. more like specs...
[02:56] <kwwii> heck, give me it, I would like to see it too
[02:56] <Jucato> or a "vision"
[02:56] <kwwii> ahhhh
[02:56] <Jucato> heheh
[02:56] <_StefanS_> well gimme!
[02:56] <_StefanS_> wake up Jucato
[02:56] <_StefanS_> :D
[02:56] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Documentation/KubuntuPhilosophy
[02:56] <Jucato> O2
[02:57] <Jucato> but isn't Ozone  "O" only?
[02:57] <kwwii> yeah, funny that
[02:58] <kwwii> ok, I hope that all I have to do is make my changes and update the changelog
[02:58] <abattoir> Ozone is O3 ;)
[02:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: can you gimme a screenshot of the bootsplash ?
[02:59] <Jucato> oh hi abattoir
[02:59] <kwwii> _StefanS_: nope, I haven't installed the pics anywhere yet
[02:59] <_StefanS_> what da..
[02:59] <_StefanS_> hmm I have to wait then
[02:59] <Jucato> :(
[02:59] <kwwii> _StefanS_: but I just pushed a kubuntu-default-settings with the changes
[02:59] <abattoir> hello Jucato, kwwii, _StefanS_
[02:59] <kwwii> howdy abattoir
[03:00] <Jucato> btw, I was thinking, wouldn't it be a nice thing to have a page where we could put up all the artwork that was used in Kubuntu?
[03:00] <_StefanS_> no where is it
[03:00] <_StefanS_> no/now
[03:00] <kwwii> Jucato: sure, if someone wanted to make one :-)
[03:00] <kwwii> (hint, hint)
[03:00] <Jucato> hm... a simple wiki page would probably do...
[03:01] <kwwii> _StefanS_: it won't be in an update yet
[03:01] <kwwii> you could download the package from launchpad or bzr though)
[03:01] <Hobbsee> thought there wsa one for edgy
[03:01] <kwwii> Hobbsee: yeah, that was back when we were supposed to discuss the artwork :p
[03:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:02] <Hobbsee> kwwii: what, you mean you arnet still?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> bug #89405
[03:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89405 in beryl-core "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89405
[03:02] <Jucato> doesn't imbrandon have a site like that? for *buntu artwokr?
[03:02] <Jucato> artwork*
[03:02] <abattoir> hi Hobbsee
[03:02] <_StefanS_> kaworth
[03:02] <Hobbsee> hey abattoir
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: buntudot?  no
[03:03] <Jucato> no something else...
[03:03] <Jucato> *staging* something...
[03:03] <Hobbsee> ubuntuwire
[03:03] <Jucato> abattoir: thanks
 art.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <Hobbsee> oh, that...
[03:04] <Jucato> http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php and http://art-staging.ubuntu.com/main.php
[03:04] <Jucato> seems like the pages exist already :)
[03:04] <Jucato> my bad
[03:04] <Hobbsee> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/89858 looks fun
[03:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89858 in kdebase "Bad documentation in README.Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[03:08] <Riddell> kwwii: did you make a new branch?
[03:08] <Riddell> kwwii: you can just checkout and commit
[03:10] <_StefanS_> Riddell: did you see those compile errors for the system-settings ? its related to that final patch it tries to apply..
[03:10] <Riddell> _StefanS_: blurg
[03:10] <_StefanS_> Riddell: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6629150/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.kde-systemsettings_0.0svn20070104-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[03:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: does it have something to do with me not doing apply-patches prior to creating the diff ? :)
[03:15] <_StefanS_> stupid debdiff's :D
[03:15] <_StefanS_> or me hehe
[03:15] <kwwii> Riddell: pushed a branch a while ago
[03:16] <kwwii> Riddell: let me know if I messed something up :-)
[03:16] <kwwii> I removed one pic but couldn't find it mentioned in any other file
[03:17] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I trust it you got the colors working in those logos, since you're ready to release them ?
[03:18] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I should have put your email in the changelog so you would get spammed on those builderrors :)
[03:18] <Jucato> roflmao
[03:18] <Jucato> thank goodness you didn't :)
[03:19] <\sh> hey kwwii :)
[03:19] <_StefanS_> Jucato: wasn't mao a dictator in your country (or nearby?) :D
[03:19] <abattoir> lol
[03:20] <Jucato> country nearby. that would be china :)
[03:20] <_StefanS_> well you're closer than me, so it must be near you
[03:20] <kwwii> howdy \sh
[03:21] <Jucato> hahah
[03:21] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[03:21] <kwwii> Riddell: oops, live and learn :-)
[03:21] <kwwii> _StefanS_: yeah, that logo works at 256 colors
[03:24] <neutraloss> i'll donate a 6pack
[03:24] <\sh> kwwii, are you in berlin (LT?)
[03:24] <kwwii> \sh: been thinking about going, yeah
[03:24] <Jucato> _StefanS_: hamster?
[03:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: err.. cpu :D
[03:25] <Jucato> aaah lol
[03:25] <_StefanS_> hamster dance takes atleast two..
[03:25] <\sh> kwwii, cool, I'm reserving some holidays for it..time to do some kubuntu/ubuntu  booth love again ;)
[03:26] <kwwii> hehe, sounds like it will be a good time
[03:27] <\sh> kwwii, sure :) another good thing is, I can visit some friends in berlin :)
[03:27] <kwwii> \sh: that is part of the reason I'll go as well :-)
[03:27] <kwwii> no need for a hotel
[03:27] <\sh> kwwii, hehe yeah :)
[03:28] <\sh> kwwii, and I can introduce my girlfriend to you geeks ,-)
[03:28] <kwwii> lol
[03:29] <kwwii> I am an artist, not a geek
[03:29] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I heard you were a geek
[03:29] <_StefanS_> cant remember from whom :)
[03:29] <\sh> kwwii, if there is ever an artist who I can name "geek", then it must be you ;)
[03:30] <neutraloss> why is the "full upgrade" trying to remove gaim ?
[03:31] <\sh> "remove gaim" "install kopete" ,->
[03:31] <neutraloss> ahhh
[03:31] <_StefanS_> neutraloss: because you're upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu
[03:31] <_StefanS_> neutraloss: nah dont know :D
[03:31] <neutraloss> Nay i'm using Kubuntu :)
[03:31] <neutraloss> I just happened to be using gaim instead of kopete
[03:31] <_StefanS_> I could offer you a hamster ?
[03:32] <neutraloss> Certainly
[03:32] <_StefanS_> hehe
[03:32] <Jucato> _StefanS_: me me me! :)
[03:32] <_StefanS_> cant you just install gaim afterwards ?
[03:32] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hey, I know you... you want dual hamsters
[03:32] <neutraloss> I will, or i'll try kopete again
[03:32] <Jucato> :D
[03:32] <_StefanS_> or a quad hamster
[03:32] <_StefanS_> haha
[03:32] <neutraloss> hum, I wonder if any of these updates to xserver fixes the xgl problem
[03:33] <_StefanS_> well enough fun, this is a serious channel.
[03:33] <neutraloss> let there be no more talk of hamsters or other furry rodents
[03:34] <Jucato> _StefanS_: a hamster I could carry around :D
[03:35] <neutraloss> upgrade from ff4 to ff5 is automatic via repos n'est pas?
[03:35] <Jucato> oui
[03:36] <Jucato> (the only other French word I know)
[03:41] <neutraloss> What's the mailing list for changelogs to repos? is that the best way to keep informed?
[03:53] <bddebian> Heya
[03:53] <Jucato> hi bddebian!
[03:54] <Jucato> saw your name in nixternal's blog post?
[03:54] <Riddell> neutraloss: feisty-changes
[03:54] <bddebian> Heya Jucato
[03:54] <bddebian> My name?
[03:55] <Jucato> "Well during this time I also hooked up with people like Jordan Mantha, Daniel T. Chen, Brandon Holtsclaw, Sarah Hobbs, Jonathan Riddell, and many many more (bddebian boo!)." - http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.03.04/free-software-community/
[03:55] <bddebian> heh
[04:07] <Daskreech2> kwwii: revive the ubuntu-calendar project :)
[04:08] <kwwii> Daskreech2: great idea, but never going to happen, I think
[04:08] <kwwii> too many political/cultural burdens on that one
[04:12] <Daskreech2> I must have missed the politics
[04:13] <Jucato> I must have missed the topic...
[04:16] <Riddell> Jucato: naked people!
[04:16] <Jucato> oooh lol :)
[04:18] <Daskreech2> I think it was the week before Ubuntu shipped they pulled the calendar because people thought it was offensive
[04:18] <Daskreech2> Jucato: It's the reason why many people characterize Ubuntu as a set of bottoms touching
[04:19] <Jucato> so that's the origin of the "naked people" nickname :D
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:19] <DaSkreech> sabdfl was a bit upset because it was one of the core marketing thingys
[04:20] <DaSkreech> So they worked around it by implementing the famed well renowned long lived ubuntu-calendar package
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Which delivered a new wallpaper every month
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Wallpapers suspiciously similar in vein to the ones proposed by sabdfl :)
[04:21] <DaSkreech> ran for 4 months then never got updated again
[04:22] <Jucato> :)
[04:22] <DaSkreech> I don't think that we have to go with "human" suggestive pictures of konqi kwwii. The idea of a rotating set of pictures around the kubuntu philosophy isn't too bad an idea I think
[04:22] <neutraloss> Is there a way to edit status messages in Kopete?
[04:22] <neutraloss> I seem to only be able to create new ones
[04:22] <DaSkreech> alt+f -> M
[04:22] <DaSkreech> ah
[04:23] <kwwii> DaSkreech: sure, but there is also a lot of work involved in getting that right
[04:23] <DaSkreech> no clue. You put your first draft of a book as your status message?
[04:23] <neutraloss> no, but I mistyped
[04:23] <DaSkreech> kwwii: doesn't stop it from being a goal
[04:23] <kwwii> DaSkreech: true, but I think the best way for us to start is to pick the low hanging fruit
[04:24] <DaSkreech> and I suspect that if we have guidelines as to what's acceptable and looked for we can get submissions from the community
[04:24] <DaSkreech> kwwii: Oh no doubt
[04:24] <DaSkreech> say a goal for Leaping lizards or Jumpin jehosphat?
[04:35] <kdefreak> Riddell/Everybody else: have any tasks that I can do? (Seeing that I'm at school, I've finished the assignment given, and the teacher doesn't have any more to hand out?) I have half an hour to kill
[04:35] <bddebian> heh
[04:35] <kwwii> DaSkreech: sure, if we could guarantee that the quality is good enough
[04:36] <kdefreak> lol
[04:40] <DaSkreech> kwwii: well it would obviously have to have a period of approval
[04:41] <DaSkreech> kwwii: I'm just thinking that if a community could be built that is self critical and self motivated we could get some good high quality work
[04:41] <DaSkreech>  plus it's a area of  OSS that needs more people attracted to it and having a showcase for them is a good idea
[04:42] <DaSkreech> and fits into both KDE's and Kubuntu's greater goals
[04:42] <kwwii> all true
[04:43] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+W :)
[04:46] <kwwii> time to go my wife's grandfathers 98th birthday
[04:46] <kwwii> bbl
[04:52] <Riddelll> ryanakca: you could fix https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/57102
[04:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57102 in kubuntu-default-settings "Kubuntu 6.06 locale problem: package doesn't get installed when it is in a directory with spaces on its name" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[04:52] <Riddelll> it's kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop in k-d-s
[05:15] <kdefreak> Riddell: kk, I'll fix it when I get home, thanks :)
[06:01] <mhb> good evening folks
[06:03] <Lure> good evening mhb
[06:03] <mhb> Lure: did you get my image yesterday?
[06:04] <Lure> mhb: no, was just connected but did not look into scroll back before reboot
[06:04] <mhb> Lure: wait then, I'll find the line
[06:05] <mhb> 20:47 < mhb> Lure: modified my battery suggestion to fit your needs: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7243/batteryscreenshot5mb2.png <-- that should be it
[06:06] <Lure> mhb: what is the gray line in battery for?
[06:07] <Lure> mhb: blue is not bad as it does not pop out of kicker too much, but you would really need to talk with kwwii regarding this
[06:08] <mhb> Lure: yeah, well of course I talked to him about this, he said we should show it to the people around and see what they think
[06:08] <kwwii> mhb: I still think that the label messes up the usability of that icon
[06:08] <kwwii> the little grey label around the battery
[06:08] <mhb> kwwii: okay then
[06:08] <mhb> I'll make another one without it
[06:08] <Lure> mhb: that is label?
[06:09] <Lure> mhb: that is really not obvious...
[06:09] <mhb> kwwii: it seems that the icon is so small that people can't recognize it
[06:09] <mhb> (the label)
[06:09] <Lure> mhb: I think the current one is quite recognizable
[06:10] <Lure> mhb: o, you are talking about label - yep, cannot put much in these limited pixels
[06:10] <mhb> Lure: it is, but the color isn't consistent much
[06:11] <mhb> Lure: that's why I tried to find another, more fitting icon
[06:12] <mhb> Lure: but if you prefer to keep the old one, just say so
[06:13] <xerosis> the blue isn't that easy to pick out against the grey
[06:13] <mhb> Lure: if it's just me that dislikes it, I can live with it
[06:13] <Lure> mhb: if you remove the label (which is confusing), I am fine with old or your's ;-)
[06:18] <mhb> Lure: yeah, but that's not enough for changing it
[06:19] <mhb> Lure: if there is nobody other than me who does want to change the old one, there's no reason in changing it
[06:28] <DaSkreech> seele: there is a mii nieghbourhood if you like
[07:57] <Riddell> new ktorrent out, any packaging volunteers?
[07:58] <nixternal> holy cow
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[07:58] <nixternal> DaSkreech: how did you know that?
[07:58] <nixternal> that is nuts
[07:59] <nixternal> I am not doing it now!
[07:59] <nixternal> ;p
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Noooooo
[07:59] <nixternal> hehe
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee will use that pointy stick again
[08:00] <nixternal> I am not scared
[08:00] <nixternal> d'oh
[08:00] <DaSkreech> I still have marks from last time in places I won't let my doctor look at
[08:00] <nixternal> someone remove that from the logs
[08:00] <nixternal> strike my last :)
[08:00] <nixternal> haha
[08:05] <nixternal> Riddell: -v2.1.1-0ubuntu1 correct for version?
[08:06] <Lure> Riddell: can you push updated libkexiv2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4530
[08:06] <Lure> Riddell: previous upload from Tonio_ is still in new queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=libkexiv2
[08:07] <Lure> Riddell: do we need MIR (as this is cut-out code of digikam already in main)?
[08:08] <nixternal> test building KTorrent right now, when done I will go ahead and debdiff it for you Riddell
[08:13] <DaSkreech> What's the new stuff on KTorrent
[08:18] <Riddell> nixternal: yes
[08:18] <Riddell> Lure: shouldn't do no
[08:19] <nixternal> roger that, should be done shortly. I will upload to my server so you can grab it
[08:25] <nixternal> telling me to use unsermake instead of make
[08:26] <Riddell> nixternal: do you have unsermake installed?
[08:26] <nixternal> yes
[08:26] <Riddell> nixternal: remove it!
[08:27] <Riddell> unsermake is obsolete
[08:27] <nixternal> WARNING: use unsermake instead of make or use a wrapper script, e.g. makeobj!!!
[08:27] <nixternal> /home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake all
[08:27] <nixternal> /bin/bash: /home/joris/ktorrent/unsermake/unsermake: No such file or directory
[08:27] <Riddell> sudo apt-get remove unsermake
[08:27] <Riddell> make -f debian/rules buildprep
[08:28] <nixternal> testroot error
[08:29] <Riddell> install fakeroot
[08:29] <Riddell> fakeroot make -f debian/rules buildprep
[08:29] <nixternal> rock on
[08:31] <Riddell> Lure, allee: libkexiv2 uploaded, assuing it'll work to overwrite something already in NEW
[08:32] <Lure> Riddell: will see in queue (maybe archive-admin might need to reject previoue upload)
[08:35] <Lure> Riddell: I see that your kde4 is also stuck in queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Should kaffiene prompt to install libxine-extracodecs?
[08:54] <nixternal> definitely working now, that's for sure
[08:55] <Riddell> DaSkreech: that needs to be fixed, it should be libxine-ffmpeg now
[08:56] <DaSkreech> Whatever :) I'm asking if it should prompt to install that if you run a Xvid video for example
[08:56] <DaSkreech> Can I reinitialize the mouse?
[09:00] <nixternal> Riddell: uploading now
[09:00] <nixternal> installed here locally, and working. So I guess that is a good sign ;)
[09:01] <Riddell> nixternal: have you found a changelog?
[09:02] <nixternal> found a changelog?
[09:02] <nixternal> for KTorrent?
[09:02] <nixternal> there is one on their website
[09:03] <Riddell> nixternal: URL?
[09:04] <nixternal> NEWS file is empty
[09:05] <Riddell> you said there was one on their website
[09:06] <nixternal> I thought there was one, they used to have links to them, it seems they have changed their webpage and just list the changes on the front page
[09:06] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/ktorrent
[09:06] <nixternal> ^^ there is the new package
[09:06] <nixternal> all files including a debdiff
[09:10] <nixternal> Riddell: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/network/ktorrent/ChangeLog?revision=638530&view=markup
[09:10] <nixternal> that is the only changelog I found
[09:11] <Riddell> "Rewrite of webserver"
[09:11] <Riddell> eek
[09:11] <nixternal> lol
[09:11] <Riddell> "New webgui : coldmilk"
[09:11] <nixternal> sounds scary
[09:11] <Riddell> well that won't get past UVF
[09:11] <nixternal> lovely changelog
[09:12] <nixternal> hehe, well, at least I got through another package :)
[09:14] <Riddell> nixternal: do you have an account on revu?
[09:17] <nixternal> yes
[09:19] <mhb> Riddell: by the way, how's the dist-upgrade tool? Ready for common testers yet?
[09:21] <nixternal> Riddell: should I put that package on revu?
[09:23] <Riddell> nixternal: yes, may as well keep your packages until feisty+1
[09:24] <Riddell> mhb: looks like current is still out of date http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/dist-upgrader-all/
[09:24] <Riddell> mhb: and the new packages aren't in proposed
[09:24] <mhb> Riddell: too bad, I'd really like to get new testers aboard
[09:24] <Riddell> mhb: me too, it's very frustrating
[09:25] <chavo> what do you need tested?
[09:26] <Riddell> edgy -> feisty upgrades
[09:26] <Riddell> but the packages need to get through the soyuz blockage first
[09:26] <chavo> ok
[09:27] <chavo> I did dapper -> edgy -> fesity about a month ago as well
[09:27] <chavo> I'll do a edgy -? feisty later on tonight since my burner seems to be working again
[09:28] <DaSkreech> warty -> galloping :)
[09:29] <nixternal> lol
[09:32] <mhb> um... it may be stupid to bring it up again, but has anyone noticed my suggestion yesterday - changing the kubuntu-team LP emblem from a white-background Dapper one to a opaque-background Edgy one (and changing the favicon.ico for kubuntu.org as well)?
[09:33] <chavo> ok didn't have an edgy iso so I'm getting that now
[09:34] <DaSkreech> Is kaffiene supposed to prompt in fawn?
[09:36] <chavo> DaSkreech, I just removed libxine1-ffmpeg and I don't get a prompt
[09:37] <DaSkreech> The point is should it?
[09:38] <chavo> not sure
[09:39] <_StefanS_> I just updated to the last kdebase*13, and administrator mode (kdesu <command>) of the system-settings or kcontrol does not work anymore. Are any of you experiencing the same ?
[09:49] <imbrandon> kwwii , ping
[09:49] <imbrandon> err no kwwii
[10:36] <DaSkreech> !networkinstall
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networkinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <DaSkreech> !network-install
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <\sh> network install?
[10:38] <\sh> automated installation, or more "my laptop can do pxe but doesn't have a cdrom and I need to boot the iso image from net?"
[10:40] <DaSkreech> installing over the network cause the burner seems to be sitting up on it's haunches beggign to play frisbee
[10:40] <DaSkreech> begging
[10:40] <\sh> DaSkreech, on wiki.ubuntu.com there were some pages about this topic
[10:40] <\sh> netinstall or something search for it
[10:41] <DaSkreech> netboot?
[10:41] <DaSkreech> ok
[10:42] <\sh> DaSkreech, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?highlight=%28netboot%29
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Is there an option to skip downloading packages for the lIve CD instalelr?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> installer?
[11:53] <allee> Lure: digikam & digikamimageplugins: 0.9.1: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4549 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4550
[11:54] <allee> edgy pkgs (simple rebuilds) are in my repo
[11:54] <Lure> allee: ok, will rebuild plugins now
[11:54] <Lure> allee: digikam is already on ftp if you want it for your repo
[11:55] <allee> I'll download/uplaod
[11:58] <Lure> allee: so plugins is not -1 (not in debian) ?
[11:58] <ypsila> moin
[11:58] <allee> Lure: debian can't upload, because digikam is pending in debian's NEW.  See changelog ;)
[11:58] <ypsila> kwwii: ping
[11:58] <Lure> allee: right
[11:59] <kwwii> ypsila: pong
[11:59] <ypsila> kwwii:  Gr Gott nach Bayern!
[12:00] <Lure> Riddell: btw, kubuntu-desktop should probably just recommend gwenview & kipi-plugins (to allow removal by user)
[12:00] <kwwii> ypsila: servus :-)
[12:00] <ypsila> kwwii: we missed you in Chemnitz : http://www.kubuntu-de.org/image-galleries/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007?page=1
[12:01] <kwwii> ypsila: yeah, sorry that I couldn't make it
[12:02] <kwwii> ypsila: but I am glad to see that another bald guy showed up in my place
[12:02] <ypsila> kwwii: who?
[12:03] <kwwii> ypsila: well, from the pics, there were several bald guys there
[12:04] <ypsila> kwwii: bald = graue / weie Haare, kubuntu had only guys with no hair at all :-)
[12:04] <ypsila> kwwii: 3 of them :-D
[12:04] <kwwii> ;-)
[12:05] <kwwii> good to see pics of the opensuse guys, they are friends
[12:05] <ypsila> kwwii: what about Cebit? we spread roundabout 300 CD's in Chemnitz
[12:05] <Riddell> Lure: ok
[12:05] <kwwii> ypsila: I can imagine
[12:05] <Lure> Riddell: and add digikam back to recommends ;-)
[12:05] <kwwii> ypsila: I guess the next event I might take off work to attend would be berlin
[12:05] <ypsila> kwwii: it was a bit strange to have a both ubuntu/edubuntu/kubuntu
[12:06] <ypsila> +o
[12:06] <ypsila> rigth in front
[12:06] <Lure> Riddell: btw, allee has prepared packages and they seems ready to be pushed
[12:06] <Riddell> I saw that
[12:06] <Lure> Riddell: they are on the REVU and they need libkexiv2 waiting in new
[12:06] <Riddell> yep
[12:06] <Riddell> compiling now
[12:06] <Lure> Riddell: will you push this now
[12:06] <ypsila> kwwii: kde asked us for CD's they only had a mysterious novell-thing
[12:07] <Lure> Riddell: do you know why we have imageplugins in universe and rest of it in main?
[12:07] <ypsila> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/galerien/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007/dscf0467
[12:07] <Riddell> Lure: I will yes
[12:07] <Lure> Riddell: plugins are core part of digikam (they will get merged back in kde4) and should be in main
[12:10] <Riddell> ypsila: they did that at fosdem too, those CD cases miss explaining what they are (they also have a blatant GPL breach on the back)
[12:10] <ypsila> Riddell: yes
[12:10] <Riddell> Lure: 9MB, there's no space on the CD for them
[12:10] <ypsila> I would like to know whether there is any possibility to get kubuntu CD's for Cebit
[12:10] <Lure> Riddell: ok, but does this limit us to have it in main?
[12:10] <Riddell> Lure: no, I think just nobody has done the main inclusion report
[12:10] <Riddell> ypsila: via shipit
[12:10] <Lure> Riddell: ok, will add MIR on my to-do list
[12:11] <ypsila> Riddell: Cebit is March 15 - 21 March!
[12:12] <Riddell> ypsila: not much time
[12:12] <Riddell> ooh, a Kubuntu poster http://www.kubuntu-de.org/image-galleries/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007/dscf0453
[12:12] <ypsila> Riddell: ;-)
[12:13] <ypsila> it was great
[12:13] <Riddell> I don't recognise anyone in these photos
[12:14] <ypsila> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/galerien/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007/standpersonal
[12:15] <ypsila> Riddell: better?
[12:15] <Riddell> ooh, very handy :)
[12:16] <Riddell> quite a rocking community is kubuntu-de
[12:16] <ypsila> Riddelll: ???
[12:17] <Riddell> lots of people doing cool stuff
[12:17] <ypsila> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/image-galleries/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007/dscf0451#
[12:17] <DaSkreech> can I skip the download updates in Live Cd installer?
[12:17] <kwwii> nice pic...mirjam grew her hair longer again