[12:26] <shampoonator> no got
[12:26] <shampoonator> just installed the whole kubuntu
[12:27] <got> did you do the oem install?
[12:28] <shampoonator> yes
[12:28] <got> did you run oem-config-prepare yet?
[12:29] <duckdown> Hi all, have an SSH question.  I am establishing a SOCKS tunnel to a host by doing 'ssh -D1234 shellcompany.com' then I can use localhost:1234 as a SOCKS proxy for browsing, however, other computers on my network can't connect to that port.  In PuTTY theres an option to make it accept connections from the outside, how do I do that in manual ssh syntax?
[12:29] <geert_> How can i put a different KDE program on my compu and do not lose the for instance i go from kubuntu edge 6.10 to kubuntu 6.6 or even to decibel latest version?
[12:30] <geert_> lose the content of what i have already got on my stystem now.
[12:30] <premier_> Im having trouble hibernating my computer
[12:30] <geert_> I mean NOT LOSE! sorry
[12:32] <lontra> man basket notes is cool
[12:32] <premier_> it complains that its not able to find the swap device.  My help told me to look at a file called /etc/fstab, and there was something about filesystem labels, but Im not very advanced so I dont know what was going on
[12:32] <got> shampoonator  i did the oem install once and you have to do sudo oem-config-prepare
[12:32] <shampoonator> mmh k
[12:32] <shampoonator> i'll try
[12:32] <shampoonator> thx
[12:33] <got> when you login are you oem?
[12:34] <ubuntu> hi
[12:34] <got> hey
[12:34] <ubuntu> i have a problem with my new harddrive
[12:34] <got> ok
[12:34] <ubuntu> i plugged it in, started with the cd and formated in in ext3
[12:34] <ubuntu> so far so good
[12:35] <ubuntu> but now the kernel won t load
[12:35] <ubuntu> it says root is on hdb
[12:35] <premier_> uh oh
[12:35] <slyfox> Why can
[12:35] <slyfox> Why can't I copy and paste from Konqueror ?
[12:35] <premier_> slyfox: what are you trying to do?
[12:35] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on a .mkv video
[12:35] <ubuntu> got: do you know, whats wrong?
[12:36] <got> you completely installed it then rebooted and it said kernel wont load?
[12:36] <ubuntu> i cant say, if its completelz installed
[12:36] <ubuntu> i formated it in ext3
[12:36] <ubuntu> :)
[12:36] <slyfox> premier_: simply ctr+c or mouse right click copy it and paste it, all aplicaitons do that, but it does not work if I do this from konqueror, it does not paste if I get soemthing form konqueror
[12:36] <got> did you set up partitions or did you shoose to use the whole drive?
[12:36] <ubuntu> whole drive
[12:37] <ubuntu> its jumpered to slave
[12:37] <got> whats it doing now
[12:37] <premier_> slyfox: what are you trying to copy and paste?
[12:37] <slyfox> premier_: any text
[12:37] <ubuntu> i started kubuntu with the cd
[12:37] <geert_> Why is there no ditionairy if i am writing on a website. Than it is so muth more difficult to write correct, it takes so long if i have to look in my ditionairy!
[12:37] <ubuntu> even if i unplug the harddrive now, kubuntu wont boot
[12:37] <got> after you rebooted?
[12:37] <premier_> slyfox: text from where?  the location bar?
[12:37] <ubuntu> thinks the root is on the  other harddrive
[12:38] <got> oh i see
[12:38] <slyfox> premier_: a web site
[12:38] <geert_> If it will not bood look at your GRUB.
[12:38] <ubuntu> do you know any solution?
[12:38] <got> what geert said would be my forst choice
[12:38] <slyfox> premier_: I restarted it and now it works
[12:38] <geert_> Maybe who nows?
[12:39] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on a .mkv video
[12:39] <slyfox> premier_: do u use firefox or Konqueror ?
[12:39] <premier_> firefox
[12:39] <got> i would just try to reinstall
[12:39] <premier_> I cant reproduce your problem, so I have no idea
[12:39] <premier_> Im having trouble hibernating my computer
[12:39] <got> if you dont ahve anything important on there
[12:39] <geert_> Just what you like that is what i now
[12:39] <ubuntu> ye, i played with that solution
[12:39] <premier_> it complains that its not able to find the swap device.  My help told me to look at a file called /etc/fstab, and there was something about filesystem labels, but Im not very advanced so I dont know what was going on
[12:39] <slyfox> premier_: why do you prefer ff over konqueror ?
[12:39] <ubuntu> but it thought there would be an easier one
[12:39] <asher> hey
[12:39] <ubuntu> no, its quite a fresh install
[12:40] <ubuntu> thanks anyway :)
[12:40] <premier_> slyfox: extensions, and also I got some things working in ff and I dont want to take the time to fix it
[12:40] <got> yup if you do reinstall, make sure that the other hd is set to cable select
[12:40] <premier_> slyfox: but Ive heard people say that konqueror is better
[12:40] <niles> where to go to change keystrokes to toggle between different workspaces?
[12:40] <niles> with in the pager that is.
[12:40] <geert_> FF is looking better and it has a Flash plyer bild in!
[12:40] <ubuntu> got it
[12:40] <dx11101> how do you get a 3d gui?
[12:40] <ubuntu> cya then :)
[12:40] <premier_> geert_: since when?
[12:40] <slyfox> premier_: "I got some things working in ff " they do not work in Konqueror ?
[12:41] <slyfox> premier_: what do you use for notes, calendar and email ?
[12:41] <got> im sorry ubuntu, if ones master, the other should be slave, or you can set them both to CS
[12:41] <ubuntu> damn
[12:41] <got> what
[12:41] <premier_> slyfox: gmail for email.  I dont use a calendar; I use kwrite for notes
[12:42] <ubuntu> im so used to windows
[12:42] <got> ubuntu
That is the case with me but do not ask me how
[12:42] <got> im sorry ubuntu, if ones master, the other should be slave, or you can set them both to CS
[12:42] <bxnp> slyfox: you could allso use basket for notes which is very nice
[12:42] <ubuntu> i can easilz stay here :)
[12:42] <ubuntu> no, thats quite ok with me
[12:42] <slyfox> bxnp: just isntalled version 1 will try it out
[12:42] <premier_> geert_: jezz, I want your repositorys
[12:42] <slyfox> premier_: why not Kmail with gmail ?
[12:43] <premier_> any, does anyone here have any suggestions on how to get my computer to hibernate?
[12:43] <premier_> slyfox: havent tried it
[12:43] <got> premier did you configure your own kernel
[12:43] <got> premier, theres also a setting in your bios for it
[12:43] <premier_> got: no, its kubuntu 6.10, installed from the live cd
 you must have two posibilities So two masters and two slaves.
[12:44] <premier_> got: well, that shouldnt be the problem.  see, when I try to hibernate, heres what happens:
[12:44] <got> geert, on one ide cable one is set to master the other slave
[12:45] <premier_> got: if I have usb devices plugged in, they stop the process and I get delivered back to my desktop, no hibernate
[12:45] <compilerwriter> anyone know if Kontakt has keyboard shortcuts to switch between folders?
 you put you dvd or cdrom in the slave and the hard drives in master.
[12:45] <got> premier i think its in your bios but im not for sure, you may have wake up events misconfiguress
[12:46] <niles> how do i change keystrokes to toggle between different workspaces?
[12:46] <ubuntu> am i able to change the moint-point later on_
[12:46] <ubuntu> :
[12:46] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on a .mkv video
[12:46] <got> geert i agree, but no time should you have two devices on one cable se to the same thing unless its cable select
[12:46] <premier_> got: or, If no usb devices, same thing, but it says something about "cannot find swap device.  try swapon -a"
[12:47] <geert_> Slave/ master is in away one channel whit a switch so iit will work faster if the have there one channel;.
[12:48] <got> im not sure premier, but the first place you should start is in your bios, make sure those setting are correct and go from there, i just installed today and hibernate works perfect
[12:48] <niles> there is no Kontrol center.  wtf
[12:48] <premier_> got, okay fine.  brb
[12:48] <SolidSource> niles: there is..just have to add the menu item yourself
[12:48] <jarn> cp should have a progress bar.
[12:48] <SolidSource> niles: the command is merely "kcontrol"
[12:48] <got> master/slave selects the location devices are connected to the ide cable
[12:49] <igorjr> got: am i able to select the mount-points without reinstalling?
[12:49] <got> if one is master, the other has to be slave
[12:49] <geert_> And most compu`s have two ide drivers.
[12:50] <geert_> And today also a read driver
[12:50] <got> right, ide 0 and ide 1, and on each of those a ide cable is attatched
[12:50] <got> on the cable there are two slots
[12:50] <niles> SolidSource: thanx
[12:51] <got> one master or one slave, cable select lets bios which one is master/slave
[12:51] <dx11101> never use cable select
[12:51] <BluesKaj> in most IDE cases the master/slave drive jumpers have to be connected correctly ...sometimes ppl forget
[12:51] <niles> this is stuipid.  toggleing from workspace to workspace,  provides a list with the differnt desktops out of order
[12:51] <niles> useless.
[12:51] <got> igorjr what problem are you having?
[12:52] <igorjr> im ubuntu
[12:52] <igorjr> ;)
[12:52] <geert_> But to set them write it is a hardware job not a bios thing
[12:52] <niles> ahh i got it
[12:52] <igorjr> got: i was wondering if i could change the mount-points of the partitions manually without reinstalling the whole os
[12:52] <niles> i had to select "list"
[12:52] <BluesKaj> yeah geert_ , but it's still important , otherwise the BIOS settings won't work
[12:53] <dx11101> fstab.list?
[12:53] <got> if you set both devices on one ide cable bios determines the master and slave, thats what cable select is for
[12:53] <geert_> I do not have a good experiance whis cable select.
[12:53] <dx11101> the problem with cable select is sometimes it doesnt work right
[12:53] <asher> does anyone here use a toshiba p105?
[12:53] <crackhead> question: does anyone know of an open source secure collaborative internet meeting application/environment?
[12:53] <geert_> Right!
[12:53] <crackhead> like netmeeting, webex, etc, but opensource
[12:54] <got> that is tru
[12:54] <got> but you don not set both devices to master
[12:54] <got> and  you don not set both devices to slave
[12:55] <igorjr> if you don't jumper the harddrives and put one one the primary and one on the secondary and choose cable select
[12:55] <geert_>  Jou do if you get them on a different ide driver i did it to and it wors oke
[12:55] <igorjr> we'll, do the math
[12:55] <dx11101> im sorry but drivers have nothing to do with it
[12:55] <igorjr> but even though it's easier to just jumper them right and put them wherever u want them most
[12:55] <igorjr> oh, well
[12:56] <got> lol
[12:56] <dx11101> dont use cable select and you will be OKAY
[12:57] <got> if you set them both to master on one ide drive you will not ba ok
[12:57] <igorjr> sorry, i totally appreciate your help, never mind ;)
[12:57] <dx11101> ohh really
[12:57] <dx11101> i thought we have this figured out 20 years ago
[12:58] <got> well theta what geert has been aguing with me about
[12:58] <premier_> got:  looked through the entire bios menu, and I couldnt find anything
[12:58] <got> im not sure then premier
[12:58] <dx11101> if your having problems it means something broken or the jumpers are WRONG
[12:59] <got> i was just trying to point out that they should not be set to the same thing
[12:59] <got> unless it cable select
[12:59] <BluesKaj> the jumper settings are easily found on the net or on the drive itself
[01:00] <dx11101> i would never recommend someone use cable select
[01:01] <dx11101> if it works for you then yay but i have seen to many issues with drives getting detected at startup
[01:02] <dx11101> is that guy still here asking about webcam conferencing?
[01:04] <bxnp> anybody know's what to do with a .idx file or a .sub file
[01:04] <BenPA> hi alll ... I need help ... after envoking some wine applications in Ubuntu 6.06 using KDE ... my icons disappear and it seems my desktop locks ... any clues?
[01:05] <Skrot> bxnp: They're subtitles for movies. Name them the same as the movie file (e.g foobar.avi should have foobar.idx and foobar.sub) and atleast mplayer will play with subs
[01:05] <jarn> If I wanted to shrink my windows partition, can I do that from in Linux?
[01:05] <Gizmo48> Need help:   KUBUNTU on nvidia Dual monitor setup - PROBLEM: some apps open ACROSS the monitors instead of one or the other.. FIX?
[01:05] <bxnp> oke
[01:05] <SpAwN> jarn, most likly but you can/may lose data
[01:05] <SpAwN> back everything u want to keep up
[01:06] <jarn> SpAwN: Eh, not too worried about it. And it's not that likely, is it?
[01:06] <jarn> SpAwN: What program is best for that?
[01:06] <SpAwN> jarn, maby check out umm ...one sec let me get the names theres 2 programs ...ones like qtparted
[01:07] <jarn> SpAwN: Thanks.
[01:07] <SpAwN> jarn, qtparted and gparted i do belive
[01:07] <jarn> SpAwN: What's the difference? One's QT based and ones GTK based?
[01:07] <BenPA> hi all ... I need help ... after envoking some wine applications in Ubuntu 6.06 using KDE ... my icons disappear and it seems my desktop locks ... any clues?
[01:07] <HymnToLife> jarn, yes
[01:08] <SpAwN> jarn, i would think so.
[01:08] <HymnToLife> and gparted is - imo - much better
[01:08] <jarn> Oh? They're not the same?
[01:08] <SpAwN> jarn, i havent used either to much...so just be carefull and pay attention ;-)
[01:08] <jarn> SpAwN: Will do.
[01:09] <hvarma> hello
[01:09] <hvarma> i have returned
[01:09] <hvarma> so anybody here know anything about Code::Blocks
[01:10] <jarn> HymnToLife: Is there a way to get gparted to display in GiB instead of MiB?
[01:10] <hvarma> or any other IDE with good code completion/Intellisense
[01:10] <BenPA> hi all ... I need help ... after envoking some wine applications in Ubuntu 6.06 using KDE ... my icons disappear and it seems my desktop locks ... any clues?
[01:12] <HymnToLife> jarn, it displays in GiB here...
[01:12] <jarn> HymnToLife: In the resize dialog?
[01:12] <Gizmo48> channels
[01:13] <jarn> HymnToLife: Oops...
[01:13] <jarn> HymnToLife: I need to reboot to check out my win partition.
[01:14] <Huey> is it possible to explore a bin/cue file with konqueror?
[01:15] <shadowhywind> hay i am having issues with my external monitor. All i get is just a bunch of color can anyone help
[01:15] <BenPA> hi all ... I need help ... after envoking some wine applications in Ubuntu 6.06 using KDE ... my icons disappear and it seems my desktop locks ... any clues?
[01:17] <nixternal> BenPA: if nobody here can answer your Wine question, you can also try #winehq if it is related
[01:18] <dx11101> ebay is soo addicting
[01:19] <BenPA> my question is why are my desktop icons disappearing ... it may not be wine
[01:20] <BenPA> it seems my desktop may be crashing ...
[01:21] <dx11101> BenPA, are you fully updated or did you recently update?
[01:21] <BenPA> I recently updated
[01:21] <mrbrdo> i just burned a dvd
[01:21] <mrbrdo> and i can't see it
[01:21] <mrbrdo> in fact i can't see any of my cds
[01:21] <mrbrdo>  /media/cdrom0 is just empty all the time
[01:22] <dx11101> probably need to dismount remount
[01:22] <mrbrdo> i tried, nothing happens
[01:22] <BenPA> it seems the problem started happening after I tried to get some missing java items that were/are missing
[01:22] <mrbrdo> with umount and mount /media/cdrom0
[01:22] <dx11101> yeah but your not putting a device
[01:23] <mrbrdo> ?
[01:23] <dx11101> just the mountpoint
[01:23] <mrbrdo> it's in fstab?
[01:23] <dx11101> check it
[01:23] <luigi_> salve
[01:23] <mrbrdo>  /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0      0
[01:23] <SolidSource> anyone using guarddog? cause configured it and now I can't access the internet, but I can access my samba from my laptop
[01:23] <dx11101> you should enable automounting for you cdrom
[01:23] <mrbrdo> where
[01:24] <dx11101> okay
[01:24] <dx11101> in KDE
[01:24] <dx11101> get to system settings
[01:24] <mrbrdo> yeah
[01:24] <dx11101> then advanced
[01:24] <dx11101> at the top
[01:24] <dx11101> the disk and filesystems
[01:24] <dx11101> then*
[01:24] <mrbrdo> okay
[01:24] <dx11101> click on Optical Disc
[01:25] <bonbonthejon> !enter
[01:25] <mrbrdo> ok
[01:25] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:25] <dx11101> Modify
[01:25] <dx11101> then enable at startup
[01:25] <BenPA> dx11101 ... it seems the problem started happening after I tried to get some missing java items that were/are missing
[01:25] <mrbrdo> dx11101: well that wouldn't solve anything
[01:25] <mrbrdo> dx11101: that just mounts on system startup
[01:26] <mrbrdo> dx11101: how does that help?
[01:27] <mrbrdo> it does say disabled though
[01:27] <mrbrdo> and i can't enable it
[01:29] <tarnold> hey all
[01:29] <jarn> How do I resize my linux partition? I obviously can't do it in Linux. :P
[01:30] <tarnold> how do enable restricted repositories?
[01:30] <tarnold> i want to get ndiswrapper
[01:31] <slyfox> tarnold: get knetworkmanager
[01:31] <slyfox> tarnold: go to view - manage reposetories in Adept
[01:31] <tarnold> ok
[01:31] <tarnold> and i see greyed out text though...?
[01:32] <premier_> I cant get my computer to hibernate, and it wont wake from suspend; I have to restart it
[01:32] <slyfox> RIght click on everything that does not have # and select enable
[01:33] <tarnold> hey i can't get knetworkmanager
[01:33] <tarnold> what do i have to do?
[01:33] <premier_> does anyone know how got get linux to load a program on startup without session management?
[01:33] <tarnold> i typed in the commnad line sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[01:33] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic  > tarnold
[01:33] <jake_> hi guys, im a new linux user please help, how to change the themes?
[01:33] <tarnold> slyfox: would you happen to know what i did wrong?
[01:33] <slyfox> tarnold: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:34] <intelikey> anyone know the format for /etc/timezone    is it utc+2  utc-5  and so on ?
[01:34] <slyfox> tarnold: you have to enable repositores first
[01:34] <SolidSource> slyfox: source-o-matic is better
[01:34] <tarnold> oh
[01:34] <tarnold> ok
[01:34] <intelikey> !source-o-matic
[01:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:35] <jake_> anyone?
[01:35] <tarnold> hey what is in the little boxes...do i paste it into my command line?
[01:37] <tarnold> hey do i past the 2 commands into in the box into my command line?
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> shift + insert
[01:37] <cjbloom> what command do i use to install ubunutu via command line?
[01:38] <CVirus> cjbloom: there is no such thing ... you can't install ubuntu from command line
[01:38] <SolidSource> tarnold:  to overwrite your old sources.list..in konsole do "kdesu kate /etc/apt/soruces.list" copy from new file over that, then save
[01:38] <cjbloom> under kubunutu
[01:38] <SolidSource> tarnold: then run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:39] <CVirus> cjbloom: ahh ... install the ubuntu-desktop package
[01:39] <intelikey> cjbloom you have to use the alternate install CD for a cli based install  or else be very good at hacking linux.
[01:39] <tarnold> hey i went into my sources list, uncommented the lines and hit save and it said  that i can't save it: not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <SolidSource> tarnold: thats because you don't have permission...need to kdesu/sudo it
[01:40] <tarnold> solid source: so how do i run kate as kdesu/sudo then?
[01:40] <BenPA> can anyone tell me why I am getting this error when I try to upgrade .... Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:40] <BenPA>  emacs21
[01:40] <BenPA>  cedet-common
[01:40] <BenPA>  eieio
[01:40] <BenPA>  speedbar
[01:41] <SolidSource> tarnold: just go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/, select your system, check all the boxes, generate list
[01:41] <SolidSource> tarnold:  then to overwrite your old sources.list..in konsole do "kdesu kate /etc/apt/soruces.list" copy from new file over that, then save, then run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:41] <intelikey> SolidSource "check all the boxes" ?   is that sound advice ?
[01:42] <tarnold> huh
[01:42] <SolidSource> intelikey: its fine all it does is make the source packages available
[01:42] <tarnold> ok i think i get this sources generator
[01:43] <flight> Hello all!
[01:43] <tarnold> ok, don't see anything labeled restricted, or multiverse or anything
[01:43] <intelikey> SolidSource no.  there are boxes for snapshots wine blah blah blah...  not just source packages.
[01:44] <SolidSource> intelikey: so, thats not going to cause any problems
[01:44] <flight> does anyone know what command line options wine supports?
[01:44] <intelikey> !worksforme | SolidSource
[01:44] <ubotu> SolidSource: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:44] <tarnold> solidsource: i don't see anything labeled restricted or multiverse
[01:45] <SolidSource> tarnold: they will be given
[01:45] <intelikey> flight i would suspect not.    man wine
[01:45] <tarnold> solidsource: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  i don't see anything labeled restricted or multiverse or anything am i looking in the wrong place then?
[01:45] <flight> tried the man pages on it, it's not in there... but it does reference command line options...
[01:46] <flight> just doesn't say what they are
[01:46] <SolidSource> intelikey: having it in sources.list will cause no problems.....just take longer to check for updates
[01:46] <SolidSource> tarnold: it doesn't say "restricted" but it will be in the list
[01:46] <tarnold> ok, then what does it say- since i can't find it
[01:46] <intelikey> flight winehq.org  ?
[01:47] <tarnold> and wouldn't it be easier tojust go into /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:47] <Jucato> flight: #winehq as well
[01:47] <flight> i'm there right now
[01:47] <SolidSource> tarnold: thats how you get into it...
[01:47] <tarnold> yes
[01:47] <jarn> How do I resize my Linux partition? I don't think I can do it in Linux... ;)_
[01:47] <tarnold> but how do i run it as sudo or kdesu?
[01:47] <intelikey> SolidSource again i disagree with you, but you seem to be unanamus about it, so i'll hush.
[01:48] <SolidSource> tarnold: in order to write to it, you need to do "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" in konsole
[01:48] <flight> thanks all!
[01:48] <tarnold> cos when i tried to save it it said the file couldn't be written to
[01:48] <tarnold> oh
[01:49] <SolidSource> tarnold" just copy and paste whats in the quotes into konsole
[01:49] <tyler__> hey
[01:49] <intelikey> anyone know the format for /etc/timezone    is it utc+2  utc-5  and so on ?
[01:49] <BenPA> can anyone tell me why I am getting this error when I try to upgrade .... Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:49] <BenPA>  emacs21
[01:49] <BenPA>  cedet-common
[01:49] <BenPA>  eieio
[01:49] <BenPA>  speedbar
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[01:49] <jarn> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <jarn> !pastebin BenPA
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin benpa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <tarnold> ok now ill try it
[01:50] <jarn> I don't know the format for ubotu. :P
[01:50] <tyler__> how is everyone
[01:51] <Jucato> !pastebin | BenPA
[01:51] <ubotu> BenPA: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:51] <Jucato> jarn: ^^^
[01:51] <BenPA> sorry
[01:52] <epimeth> hello again amigos!
[01:52] <epimeth> quick question... how do I get nonstandard resultions for x?
[01:52] <epimeth> I've got a dell laptop with a nifty wide screen
[01:52] <epimeth> it seems a bit streched
[01:52] <BenPA> why am I getting this error when I try to update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8712/plain/
[01:52] <epimeth> tho I could be wrong
[01:53] <epimeth> so really what I'm asking is... how do I check my resolution?
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: what kind of driver
[01:56] <epimeth> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:56] <epimeth> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <SolidSource> tarnold: here is what your sources.list should be like http://pastebin.sk/en/971/
[01:58] <tarnold> thank you
[01:59] <tarnold> solid source: can i just paste that over my  sources list?
[01:59] <SolidSource> tarnold: yes and take note of the "gpg" commands at the top of the list...you will need to follow those instructions
[02:00] <tarnold> ok
[02:00] <tarnold> and that means? solely if its not working?
[02:00] <intelikey> SolidSource canonical is one of the official "ubuntu" repos.            medibuntu ?
[02:00] <SolidSource> medibuntu is also official
[02:00] <intelikey> k
[02:00] <tarnold> and what does it mean when it says locate the GPG key in file and replace where KEY is?
[02:00] <SolidSource> tarnold: no, you will need to run them
[02:00] <intelikey> has ubuntu.org/ in the url    :)
[02:01] <tarnold> well what does running them mean then?
[02:01] <noesis> hi to all
[02:01] <SolidSource> tarnold: it gets you the access key for the repo...the key is located above each set of repos
[02:01] <noesis> anybody can help me about boot loader plz?
[02:02] <tarnold> solid source: the first one says # GPG key: 437D05B5  what do i do with it?
[02:03] <SolidSource> tarnold: I'll send a pastebin with the commands so can just copy and paste into konsole
[02:03] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: can you help?
[02:03] <tarnold> ok
[02:03] <tarnold> thanks
[02:05] <SolidSource> tarnold: http://pastebin.sk/972/
[02:05] <tarnold> solid source: so i replace the sources list with the pastebin file, and then run the commands in the other paste bin?
[02:06] <SolidSource> tarnold: yes...after you save and close the sources.list
[02:06] <tarnold> ok
[02:06] <tarnold> doing that now
[02:07] <tarnold> solidsource: can i litterly coppy from teh past bin?
[02:07] <SolidSource> yes
[02:08] <intelikey> better to copy from the page than to save it as   because the page will have M$ markup  but copy/paste wont keep the M$ markup.
[02:09] <SolidSource> you talkin about the numbers?....cause yeah don't copy those
[02:09] <tarnold> what numbers?
[02:09] <SolidSource> the line numbers
[02:09] <tarnold> oh
[02:10] <tarnold> no i didn't
[02:10] <mkorman> at some point, / and /usr folders appeared on my desktop.  i'm nervous to delete them, because i don't know if they will delete the actual files in these directories.  does anyone know what caused this, and how i get rid of them?
[02:11] <intelikey> SolidSource no M$ markup    wrong line end chars
[02:11] <SolidSource> oh yeah forgot about that happens
[02:11] <SolidSource> but easy to correct
[02:12] <tarnold> hey
[02:12] <tarnold> solidsourcs: im not sure  if it worked or not when i ran sudo aptitude update
[02:12] <intelikey> linux uses   line feed     and M$ uses carrage return + line feed
[02:13] <intelikey> apple uses  carrage return    iirc.
[02:13] <tarnold> solidsources: on the bottom of my console(at teh next input line, it says sometning bout GPG error, http:kubuntu edgy release: the following signatues couldn't be verified
[02:14] <tarnold> so idn't know if any worked
[02:14] <SolidSource> tarnold: that should be ok
[02:14] <marissa> Hey all, I attempted to install some nVidia drivers via Synaptic. I restarted my system, GRUB loads, and I get "Kernel Panic -- not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[02:14] <marissa> any idea what this is?
[02:14] <tarnold> solidsource: i closed my sources list and then ran the two commands in the second pastebin before i ran sudo apititude update
[02:15] <tarnold> ok
[02:15] <SolidSource> tarnold: thats right
[02:15] <tarnold> now im gonna try to get knetwork manager
[02:15] <tarnold> FUCK
[02:15] <fuel> !adeptfix
[02:15] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:16] <intelikey> marissa sounds like a faulty "initramfs" image file.    try booting with other kernels if you have any installed.
[02:16] <Errpast1> Anyone have permission issues when running CUPS via web browser, port 631
[02:16] <BluesKaj> !language | tarnold
[02:16] <ubotu> tarnold: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:16] <Errpast1> No matter what user/pw info I provide, error_log shows authentication error
[02:16] <marissa> I don't think I have any others installed. I've read a few things on the error and there's been a few things talking about using a liveCD and "chroot"ing into the partition and fixing things from there
[02:16] <intelikey> Errpast1 yes.   but i'm not help on fixing cups  i still can't print.
[02:16] <SolidSource> so no one uses guarddog and can tell me why it's being a prick and won't any traffic through when the protocols are set to allow?
[02:17] <tarnold> i ran sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager and i get something back saying sudo apt-key add -gpg --export --armor  (bunch of keys)
[02:17] <epimeth> yes!!!!!!!!!! wireless works!!!!
[02:17] <Errpast1> intelikey, OK.  At least a fellow traveler :)
[02:17] <epimeth> w00t!!!
[02:17] <tarnold> YAY
[02:17] <SolidSource> tarnold: put what it said into pastebin.sk
[02:17] <intelikey> marissa yes if you only have one kernel version installed then the live CD is the only hope.
[02:17] <tarnold> ok
[02:17] <epimeth> sorry for running off, Admiral_Chicago
[02:18] <intelikey> or should i say a live cd
[02:18] <marissa> heh, okay, that sounds just peachy
[02:18] <T3hWiz0r1> whats the best tool to manage partitions in kde?
[02:18] <epimeth> I disconnected the wire when wireless started working, but then it died... heh
[02:18] <T3hWiz0r1> i need to delete and resize a harddrive partition and format it to be dropped into another computer.
[02:18] <T3hWiz0r1> and i'd prefer it to be gui based. I was hoping for something similar to what YaST uses
[02:19] <epimeth> so back to my original question... how do I check the current resolution in X?
[02:19] <SolidSource> t3hwiz0r1: Gparted
[02:19] <SolidSource> !gparted
[02:19] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:19] <T3hWiz0r1> SolidSource: is it similar?
[02:19] <tarnold> solid source: http://pastebin.sk/en/973/
[02:19] <intelikey> marissa i would sujest    pivot_root  in place of  chroot   but that's just cause i'm at home in a console.
[02:19] <marissa> okay. where is initramfs located?
[02:20] <intelikey> marissa /boot/
[02:20] <marissa> thank you
[02:20] <intelikey> marissa normally named  initrd.img-<kernel version number>
[02:20] <SolidSource> t3hwiz0r1: don't know, but its the main graphical partitioner for ubuntu
[02:20] <marissa> I hate to be a bother, but do you know how I could go about editing it to make it work properly?
[02:21] <intelikey> marissa can't edit it really.  generate a new one.
[02:21] <marissa> okay, thanks
[02:21] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok, I see...missed one of the keys
[02:21] <T3hWiz0r1> SolidSource: can it resize an ntfs partition to be larger is my main question?
[02:21] <tarnold> oh
[02:21] <T3hWiz0r1> because i need to give my windows drive its 80 gb back
[02:21] <intelikey> marissa the command     mkinitramfs      man mkinitramfs for the specifics.
[02:22] <SolidSource> t3hwiz0r1: don't think it can do NTFS...but not sure
[02:22] <marissa> intelikey: I'll go give that a try now
[02:22] <tarnold> solidsource: i still have the sources list, but i think i closed the pastebin with the commands on it
[02:22] <BluesKaj> T3hWiz0r1, windoze doesn't need 80G ...mine gets by quite wll with 50G:)
[02:23] <SolidSource> tarnold: you ran "gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5 1135D466 DD4D5088 0C5A2783" and then "
[02:23] <SolidSource> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 1135D466 DD4D5088 0C5A2783| sudo apt-key add -" correct"
[02:23] <T3hWiz0r1> BluesKaj: the thing is that it wsa devided long before i had enough harddrive space to allocate to linux
[02:23] <T3hWiz0r1> now that linux has its own 500gb drive, windoze needs its 80 back for games ;-)
[02:23] <T3hWiz0r1> my wintend0
[02:23] <intelikey> marissa something like this example from the liveCD:  chroot /mnt/ mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<version> <version>       where <version> is the kernel version in /mnt/lib/modules/
[02:23] <BluesKaj> gamerz...bah humbug, get an xbox :)
[02:24] <intelikey> _roconnor: sudo chroot /mnt/ mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<version> <version>
[02:24] <intelikey>  or: sudo chroot /mnt/ mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-<version> <version>
[02:24] <intelikey> stupid nick completion.
[02:24] <tarnold> solidsource: so what now?
[02:25] <T3hWiz0r1> this is odd
[02:25] <T3hWiz0r1> linux can see my ide-to-usb harddrive adapter and the harddrive on it.
[02:25] <T3hWiz0r1> but it can't seem to write to the drive  now or see whats on it.
[02:25] <SolidSource> blueskaj: but what about WoW and such games....need both console and computer for best gaming
[02:26] <SolidSource> tarnold: oh I see what you did
[02:26] <intelikey> and you have it mounted ?
[02:26] <tarnold> solidsource:what did i do?
[02:26] <intelikey> and are looking at the mount point ?
[02:26] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: talking to me?
[02:26] <intelikey> yes
[02:26] <SolidSource> tarnold: http://pastebin.sk/en/972/   you need to run those commands separately
[02:26] <intelikey> you have dubble nicks and i'm too lazy to type out your name.
[02:26] <cycro> hello
[02:27] <T3hWiz0r1> well no now tis simply not mounting
[02:27] <cycro> has anybody used photorec?
[02:27] <T3hWiz0r1> and iunno where the other one is logged in at here lol
[02:27] <tarnold> so copy the first line in, hit enter, and then paste the second in and hit enter?\
[02:27] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: it says its on /dev/sda1
[02:27] <T3hWiz0r1> but now thats not mounting in terminal
[02:27] <tarnold> and anyway both commands seemed to be teh same thing...?
[02:27] <SolidSource> tarnold: yes or put "&&" between each
[02:27] <intelikey> no that's the device   not the mountpoint
[02:27] <SolidSource> tarnold: they are not the same
[02:27] <T3hWiz0r1> mountpoint was set to /220
[02:27] <tarnold> ok, which one first?
[02:28] <cycro> photorec, any1?
[02:28] <tarnold> and is it three commands or 2?
[02:28] <intelikey> ok    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /220 -o remount
[02:28] <SolidSource> tarnold: it only 2 commands
[02:28] <tarnold> ok
[02:28] <intelikey> assuming /220 is a dir.
[02:28] <tarnold> so the top line first and then the second line?
[02:29] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: in which order does the file system get named in that?
[02:29] <cycro> help anybody? :(
[02:29] <intelikey> device mountpoint
[02:29] <SolidSource> tarnold: yes
[02:29] <tarnold> oik
[02:29] <dx11101> how do you share data with windows computers?
[02:29] <intelikey> | T3hWiz0r1 (n=wizard@ip72-200-103-253.tc.ph.cox.net) (Network)
[02:29] <intelikey> | t3hwiz0rd (n=wizard@ip72-200-103-253.tc.ph.cox.net) (Network)
[02:30] <dx11101> im in komba but i cant find out how to add shares
[02:30] <tarnold> solidsource: do i need to run sudo first?
[02:30] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: i'll deal with that later
[02:30] <intelikey> :)
[02:30] <T3hWiz0r1> for now,where do i place the filesystem type in that command.
[02:30] <intelikey> you don't.
[02:30] <SolidSource> tarnold: no
[02:31] <intelikey> what fs type is it ?
[02:31] <T3hWiz0r1> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:31] <T3hWiz0r1> according to mount i do
[02:31] <T3hWiz0r1> it *should* be ntfs
[02:31] <intelikey> then the device node or the mountpoint is wrong.
[02:31] <T3hWiz0r1> it came out of a computer at work that the idiot thought hte drive was bad, when it is infact his motherboard.
[02:31] <arunkale> !nvidia
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <tarnold> solidsource: running commands now
[02:31] <SolidSource> tarnold:  one minor edit in the second command though....missed a space "gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 1135D466 DD4D5088 0C5A2783 | sudo apt-key add -"
[02:31] <intelikey> T3hWiz0r1 you can test: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media
[02:32] <intelikey>  /media should be a dir.
[02:32] <T3hWiz0r1> wants the file system type still
[02:32] <tarnold> solidsource: would you want the output of the first commnad?
[02:32] <SolidSource> no
[02:32] <tarnold> ok
[02:32] <intelikey> then it's the device node.   unplug it and replug it.
[02:32] <tarnold> can i paste what you just put in the IRC chat into my console?
[02:33] <T3hWiz0r1> okay, its out
[02:33] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: its in a removable usb casing right now
[02:33] <Admiral_Chicago> tarnold: shift + insert
[02:33] <SolidSource> tarnold:  yes, the stuff in the quotes
[02:33] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: and the system sees it Bus 001 Device 007: ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter
[02:33] <intelikey> T3hWiz0r1 well on the outside chance i'm wrong    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media -t ntfs
[02:34] <T3hWiz0r1> hmm still no good there
[02:34] <intelikey> but i'm guessing it will say the same thing.
[02:34] <T3hWiz0r1> yup
[02:34] <T3hWiz0r1> and the disk manager in kubuntu is clueless about anything.
[02:34] <T3hWiz0r1> it shows the device as /dev/sda1
[02:35] <intelikey> and you specified the type so the error message is not generated by type but rather by not knowing where the device is.
[02:35] <T3hWiz0r1> but shows no details on it and whe nits unplugged it still shows it as there
[02:35] <jarn> How do I resize my Linux partition?
[02:35] <marissa> intelikey: shell says: "Cannot run command 'mkiniramfs': no such file or directory
[02:35] <intelikey> T3hWiz0r1  sudo fdisk -l
[02:35] <T3hWiz0r1> hmm it still shows them as /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[02:36] <intelikey> marissa mkinitramfs           with a "t"
[02:36] <SolidSource> tarnold: then to install "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude knetworkmanager"
[02:36] <marissa> intelikey: sorry, typo, I did type mkinitramfs
[02:36] <marissa> and it told me there was no such file or directory
[02:36] <T3hWiz0r1> wait, intelikey, now gparted is seeing it
[02:37] <intelikey> marissa you are talking to the typo king of kubuntu   so if there is an error it's probably mine.
[02:37] <tarnold> ok
[02:37] <T3hWiz0r1> and its giving me the option to write the partition to it
[02:37] <SolidSource> tarnold: ooops "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager"
[02:37] <intelikey> T3hWiz0r1 why are you in gparted ?     i just said   fdisk -l     to "list" the partitions.
[02:38] <marissa> intelikey: ha, okay, but I looked up "mkinitramfs" on google and apparently it's spelled right =)
[02:38] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: i ran that
[02:38] <T3hWiz0r1> and its showing up so it was allowing it to create a partition
[02:38] <tarnold> ok i got sidetracked ive still yet to input the second command: i got it off the irc chat, what is the | mean?
[02:38] <intelikey> T3hWiz0r1 and   sda1 is listed >
[02:38] <T3hWiz0r1> ofcourse *now* its not
[02:38] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: yes
[02:38] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: /dev/sda1            1045        2089     8388736    0  Empty
[02:38] <intelikey> then it might mount now.
[02:39] <prak> does anyone know how to install a driver such that that driver would work with applications opened with wine?
[02:39] <marissa> intelikey: it also told me that there was no such thing as "chroot" either. I think we have a problem =)
[02:39] <SolidSource> tarnold: its kind of like the "&&" separater
[02:39] <dr_willis> prak,  good luck there.. could just try installing it with wine, and then install the apps and hope it works
[02:39] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: all i wanna do is preformat it and then drop it into the suse server and set it a mountpoint to clear the laod of my servers *main* drive
[02:39] <komputer> SSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:39] <intelikey> marissa yeah  what is running ?
[02:39] <tarnold> so nothing has to be after the | sudo apt-key add -   ?
[02:39] <dr_willis> since wine sort of makes a 'virtual windows drive'
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> is google talk like jabber? i think automatically no, but i'm not sure
[02:39] <marissa> Just the Kubuntu liveCD
[02:39] <intelikey> marissa live CD ?
[02:40] <prak> dr_willis, i've already tried that
[02:40] <SolidSource> tarnold: nothing
[02:40] <intelikey> ok and a konsole ?
[02:40] <prak> dr_willis, it doesn't work
[02:40] <dr_willis> prak,  what is this driver for?
[02:40] <marissa> intelikey yeah
[02:40] <tarnold> solidsource: ok hitting the enter stroke in the console now
[02:40] <intelikey> in the konsole    echo $PATH
[02:40] <T3hWiz0r1> intelikey: what almost seems to be the problem is the drive is loading into readonly once its booted
[02:40] <tarnold> alright now updating sources and installing knetworkmanager
[02:40] <prak> dr_willis, it's for a usb-to-serial adapter
[02:40] <intelikey> !ntfs | T3hWiz0r1
[02:40] <ubotu> T3hWiz0r1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <T3hWiz0r1> i know how to view them
[02:41] <T3hWiz0r1> i don't even wanna see it i just wanna wipe the darn hunker
[02:41] <T3hWiz0r1> lol
[02:41] <T3hWiz0r1> i tried in windows it didn't wanna
[02:41] <prak> dr_willis, it's installed on the linux system, but i want it to work with an application that requires me to open it with wine
[02:41] <prak> or
[02:41] <T3hWiz0r1> i know my suse box can do it but what im afraid of is both drives have boot partitions on them and the server boots without a gui
[02:41] <prak> dr_willis, if I can upload/flash my hex file to the 8051 microcontroller in minicom, that would be also fantastic
[02:42] <T3hWiz0r1> if it tries to boot to the windows drive first or otherwise messes up the boot list in grub, i'll have no idea until after the fact.
[02:42] <SolidSource> no one know what the Guarddog firewall IRC channel is?
[02:42] <intelikey> oh then don't mount it.    just blank the disk.    sudo -i        cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[02:42] <marissa> intelikey: actually, running chroot gives me this: "chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': no such file
[02:42] <prak> dr_willis, although i have trouble on finding out on how to do that
[02:42] <SolidSource> !guarddog
[02:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:42] <arunkale> nero isn't letting me burn an iso :\
[02:43] <intelikey> marissa then the root you chose is not the root of the installed system.   is the disk mounted?    mount
[02:43] <marissa> intelikey: mount hda1?
[02:43] <makuseru> how can i change the defualt audio track on a .mkv file
[02:43] <intelikey> marissa   mount
[02:43] <marissa> okay
[02:43] <intelikey> marissa it will list what is mounted
[02:43] <intelikey> and where
[02:45] <intelikey> if it is mounted someplace else, use that mountpoint  i.e. /media/hda1
[02:45] <intelikey> example only. ^
[02:46] <intelikey> marissa   report ?
[02:46] <BenPA> why am I getting this error when I try to update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8712/plain/
[02:46] <marissa> intelikey: you want to know everything that shows up?
[02:47] <SolidSource> tarnold: everything ok now?
[02:47] <intelikey> no just the mountpoint of the disk in question.
[02:47] <arunkale> do i need to burn the iso as a bootable cd, or does it do that automaticallyt
[02:48] <intelikey> BenPA too late in the error messages.  scroll up and see what error emacs21 gave
[02:48] <prak> does anyone know of a good open source software that allows me to flash/upload hex files to 8051 microcontrollers?
[02:48] <marissa> intelikey: Um... it doesn't seem to be on there o.O
[02:48] <intelikey> BenPA probably  a dependancy problem.
[02:49] <intelikey> marissa ok.    sudo fdisk -l             should list all partitions for you so you can see what device it is.
[02:49] <jarn> How do I resize my Linux partition? I can't do it while I'm in Linux, so how would I do it?
[02:49] <makuseru> how can i change the defualt audio track on a .mkv file
[02:49] <SolidSource> jarm: use the live CD/DVD
[02:49] <SolidSource> jarm: just remember is not recommended
[02:50] <marissa> intelikey: /dev/hda3 is nowhere to be found using mount
[02:50] <BenPA> hold a sec I will create another one
[02:51] <intelikey> marissa and    sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media     <<< example.  hda3 was a guess.         and    sudo chroot /media    <<< exact command
[02:53] <crazy_bus> I installed synfig awhile ago and there was a problem with the way it was compiled for ubuntu.  Has this been fixed?
[02:53] <marissa> intelikey: hda3 isn't in fstab
[02:53] <intelikey> marissa that should get you into the installed system where you can     mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img<ver> <ver>        <<< again use the actual version to be generated, looking in  /lib/modules/   of the chrooted system if nessecarry to determine.
[02:53] <BenPA> it does seem like a dependency but I cannot create a paste ot say I am trying to spam and to enable javascript and I dont know how
[02:54] <intelikey> hda3 was a guess on my part.     sudo fdisk -l      <<< that should list the partitions you have.
[02:54] <makuseru> how can i change the defualt audio track on a .mkv file
[02:54] <prak> does anyone know of a good open source software that allows me to flash/upload hex files to 8051 microcontrollers?
[02:54] <marissa> intelikey: The only things in my fstab is unionfs tempfs and /dev/hda2 (my swap drive)
[02:55] <intelikey> marissa what does fstab have to do with beans?    ^    and if you need more help    someone else will have to fill in for me or you will have to wait a bit,  i have to make rounds.
[02:55] <BenPA> itelikey .. it does seem like a dependency but I cannot create a paste ot say I am trying to spam and to enable javascript and I dont know how
[02:56] <intelikey> BenPA use http://pastebin.ca
[02:56] <marissa> intelikey: well, fdisk -l listed /dev/hda3... but I can't mount it because it's not listed in fstab. Enjoy making your rounds =)
[02:57] <BenPA> itelikey .. here it is ... http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[02:58] <BenPA> itelikey .. sorry here it is ... http://pastebin.ca/381776
[02:58] <prak> does anyone know of a good open source software that allows me to flash/upload hex files to 8051 microcontrollers?
[03:01] <Kite_DH> im gonna sleep now my preciouskubuntus
[03:01] <Kite_DH> lol
[03:02] <makuseru> how can i change the defualt audio track on a .mkv file
[03:04] <intelikey> BenPA id say the update package of "emacs21" is borked.     file a bug.
[03:04] <BenPA> ok
[03:04] <BenPA> I dont know how to do that
[03:04] <intelikey> marissa you don't need a fstab entry to mount anything manually.   all you need is an fs and a dirrectory.
[03:05] <intelikey> back in a bit  hopefully
[03:05] <BenPA> itelikey ... what kinda of error would it cause?
[03:05] <dan_> Hi ! Can someone say how to load quickly (like openSUSE) application that autostart like kmix,knetworkmanager,klipper...on Feisty
[03:06] <BenPA> itelikey ... and how do I file a bug
[03:06] <Nontitle> does anybody here use gtk-gnutella?
[03:06] <Jucato> !autostart | dan_
[03:06] <ubotu> dan_: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:07] <dan_> Thanks, but this application already start on my laptop, I just want to launch FAST like opensuse....
[03:07] <dan_> can we make it with the package kcontrol-autostart
[03:08] <Jucato> what do you mean by "launch fast"?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> launch fast?  faster how?
[03:08] <dan_> DOn't need to use it....
[03:08] <Dr_willis> you mean automaticially?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> !find kcontrol
[03:09] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart, kcontrol
[03:09] <dan_> non I mean load FAST
[03:09] <joel> ...or pre-linking perhaps? That can make applications load faster.
[03:09] <Dr_willis> kcontrol-autostart - just manages "Autostart" entries. it dosent make them faster loading
[03:10] <dan_> I dont think is prelink, is like 5 time faster then on kubuntu
[03:10] <dan_> it's amazing....
[03:10] <dan_> I search for the trick ;0
[03:10] <Dr_willis> id have to see proof of that claim to be honest with ya
[03:10] <praetor_> does Kubuntu come with a partitioning tool?
[03:10] <Jucato> praetor_: in the Live CD, QtParted.
[03:11] <Jucato> but not on an installed system.
[03:11] <Dr_willis> !info qtparted
[03:11] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:11] <praetor_> Jucato: cheers
[03:11] <dx11101> i set up a share but i can access it from my windows box
[03:12] <dx11101> it gives me a user prompt but nothing works
[03:12] <praetor_> couldnt seem to find it from adept search
[03:12] <dan_> exemple, kmix, klipper and knetworkmanger start not one after one but all in same time !
[03:12] <Dr_willis> dx11101,  use 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' to add a samba password for your user -
[03:12] <dan_> and very quiclky
[03:12] <makuseru> how can i change the defualt audio track on a .mkv file
[03:13] <dx11101> dr_willis, whats the username?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> dx11101,  that would be you rlinux user's username
[03:14] <Dr_willis> then when windows accesses the linxu box. it 'should' be able to get to the users home dir.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> actually that may be disabled in the default samba.conf
[03:14] <praetor_> woah qtparted looks fugly
[03:15] <joel> dan_: That sounds like they're somehow kept preloaded. Either that, or you put them on a flash disk, or something faster than hard drive.
[03:16] <dx11101> okay wait
[03:16] <dan_> I think is something like taht
[03:16] <dx11101> all i did was add a share in "System Settings"
[03:16] <dan_> is very amazing fast
[03:16] <dx11101> and i want to see it on my dads computer
[03:17] <dx11101> i made it public but not writable
[03:17] <Dr_willis> dx11101,  i cant say that ive ever used that. I normally just ediot the samba.conf and set up the HOME dirs to be shared
[03:17] <Dr_willis> dx11101,  you may need to restrt the samba service.. and you may want to double check your  'workgroup' name
[03:17] <fyrmedic> Is anyone good at diagnosing and fixing sound issues, or able to point to a good link?
[03:17] <reldruh> how would i check if I can put a SATA drive into my computer?
[03:17] <dx11101> okay brb
[03:18] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  look on the mb for some sata conectors?
[03:18] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:18] <Dr_willis> sata controler cards are not too expensive i belive.
[03:18] <reldruh> Dr_willis: what do SATA connectors look like? Where would a sata controller card hook in to?
[03:18] <grgbpm> heelllooo
[03:19] <grgbpm> i am new on llinux^^
[03:19] <grgbpm> its great
[03:19] <Solid_Source> reldruh: you get the latest K9copy?
[03:20] <reldruh> Solid_Source: nope :-(
[03:20] <reldruh> Solid_Source: I moved on to trying to get mythtv working. I think it was a mistake :-)
[03:20] <Solid_Source> reldruh: well it is in the repos....just use the source-o-matic
[03:21] <danielches> hi, my frostwire is no longering working
[03:21] <danielches> i click on it, nut no splash screen comes up
[03:22] <Dr_willis> run it from a terminal. see if thers any error messages
[03:22] <danielches> the loading thing appears at bottom then disapears after a while
[03:22] <danielches> that me?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> mythtv is ridiculously difficult to get working
[03:22] <danielches> how do i run frostwire in a term?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> danielches,  thats trouble shooting  step 1 :) see what erroe messages are showing up
[03:22] <Dr_willis> try 'frostwire' in a terminal?
[03:22] <grgbpm> ok peoples i go to sleep
[03:22] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  tats why i use KnoppMyth
[03:25] <jarn> Anyone know a nice-looking QT-based browser? Konqueror really seems to give me problems. It crashes really often. And Firefox is ugly.
[03:25] <jarn> Really, just a QT-based browser.
[03:25] <jarn> A good one.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> 'egads' its ugly!....
[03:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:25] <arunkale> Use a Firefox theme?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> odd - i dont find it ugly
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Konqueror/firefox/opera/
[03:25] <arunkale> jarn: try opera?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> isent there the firefox spinoffs also flock? or somthing
[03:26] <jarn> Dr_willis: I don't find it ugly in Windows, but I do in Linux.
[03:26] <fyrmedic> How do I make sure that my dual core processor is working? When I check KInfocenter it only lists one, and I was reding logs and found one that said it was ignoring second processor.
[03:26] <Dr_willis> jarn,  odd.. they look identical on both to me.
[03:27] <danielches> i'm getting a java errot
[03:27] <danielches> OOPS, your java version is too old [java = 1.4.2-02] 
[03:27] <danielches> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:27] <danielches> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[03:27] <danielches> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:27] <jarn> Dr_willis: Not to me.
[03:27] <danielches> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[03:27] <jryhiggins> i keep getting an error, could not find an appropraite hx play or realplay in system
[03:27] <danielches> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[03:27] <danielches> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:27] <danielches> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[03:27] <danielches> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[03:27] <danielches> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:27] <danielches> daniel@daniel-laptop:~$
[03:27] <danielches> is used to work
[03:28] <marissa> putting sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386 gives me: "cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386" I've looked through /lib/modules, and tried  everything after initrd.img-, but no dice
[03:28] <danielches> so, is it a package i can download for java?
[03:28] <danielches> sun java 5 is listed under internet in teh k menu
[03:28] <Jucato> !java | danielches
[03:28] <ubotu> danielches: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:29] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin | danielches
[03:29] <surgy> hey jucato can you help jryhiggins? please?
[03:29] <ubotu> danielches: sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB
[03:29] <Jucato> surgy: huh?
[03:30] <surgy> jucato: <jryhiggins> i keep getting an error, could not find an appropraite hx play or realplay in system
[03:30] <Jucato> hm.
[03:31] <Jucato> jryhiggins: getting an error where?
[03:31] <arunkale> ok guys, going to install edgy on my pc now
[03:31] <arunkale> wish me luck
[03:31] <surgy> Jucato: he is trying to play realplayer content on a website that requires a realplayer plugin he is using firefox
[03:31] <jryhiggins> cbs web page
[03:31] <Jucato> afaik, xine can play realmedia files if the w32codecs is installed
[03:31] <Jucato> aah. firefox?
[03:31] <Jucato> hm... try installing the mozilla-mplayer package?
[03:31] <jryhiggins> trying to watch jerico
[03:31] <surgy> Jucato: yes
[03:31] <jryhiggins> yes
[03:31] <surgy> jryhiggins: use adept and search for that package
[03:32] <jryhiggins> ok thanks i'll try
[03:32] <danielches> so, your saying dont use the package manager?
[03:32] <surgy> Jucato: thanks
[03:32] <danielches> so, downlaod it from teh java site or what?
[03:32] <surgy> danielches: what pakage manager?
[03:32] <marissa> no idea why mkinitramfs is asking for a kernel I don't have /me sighs
[03:32] <Jucato> danielches: just don't use adept. you can use apt-get
[03:32] <danielches> adept
[03:32] <surgy> danielches: use the java-nonfree package
[03:33] <danielches> ?
[03:33] <danielches> apt-get
[03:33] <surgy> danielches: try: sudo apt-cache search  java
[03:33] <danielches> so can i get that from adept
[03:33] <Jucato> danielches: no! do not use Adept. use apt-get instead
[03:33] <danielches> ok
[03:33] <surgy> danielches: i whould use the console
[03:33] <danielches> so, type sun-java6-jre
[03:33] <danielches> in terminal?
[03:33] <Jucato> yes. in Konsole
[03:34] <surgy> danielches: sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre
[03:34] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[03:34] <Jucato> surgy: you forgot "install"
[03:34] <surgy> what jucato said :)
[03:34] <Jucato> :P
[03:34] <joel> Ah, dan_ left, but the FAST-start thing seems to be some scripts that preload certain applications in a low priority nice:ed  process.
[03:34] <joel> http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER_preloading
[03:34] <surgy> Jucato: i do that a lot :)
[03:34] <danielches> ok, installing
[03:35] <danielches> so, should that make frostwire work?
[03:35] <surgy> danielches: yerp
[03:35] <danielches> also, how did it stop working?
[03:35] <Jucato> joel: I'm not familiar if there's something similar in Kubuntu
[03:35] <makuseru> how do i import a GPG key
[03:35] <surgy> danielches: how did what stop working?
[03:35] <Jucato> danielches: you need one more command: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[03:35] <surgy> !key
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <surgy> !gpg
[03:35] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[03:36] <stuffcorpse> Hello, is there a way of using apt tools to display a list of files installed by a particular package?
[03:36] <joel> Jucato: There's a "preload" package, *shrugs* and as far as I can tell, the SUPER part is some scripts. They should be portable.
[03:36] <makuseru> that dosnt have any information on importing keys
[03:36] <danielches> ok
[03:36] <danielches> frost wire stopped working
[03:36] <danielches> it used to work
[03:36] <danielches> like a few days ago
[03:36] <surgy> makuseru: all i got :( sorry
[03:37] <danielches> then i had java problems with firefox, and tried re-installing java
[03:37] <surgy> danielches: is it working now that jre is installed?
[03:37] <Jucato> joel: why *should* it be portable? SUSE and Kubuntu are different systems...
[03:37] <danielches> (java still does nto work in ff)
[03:37] <danielches> its still installing
[03:37] <danielches> 12%
[03:37] <surgy> danielches: have you restarted FF?
[03:37] <Jucato> joel: it *may* be portable, but not 100% sure
[03:37] <danielches> not this time
[03:37] <danielches> waiting for it to finish install
[03:38] <Jucato> danielches: firefox needs a different package for the java plugin
[03:38] <surgy> danielches: there is a few places in the jre install you need to provide input, thats why we had you use console instead of adept
[03:38] <danielches> ok
[03:38] <Jucato> Java JRE is for Java apps like forstwire
[03:38] <Jucato> danielches: you need sun-java6-plugin for Firefox
[03:38] <danielches> is that the package
[03:38] <Jucato> yes
[03:38] <danielches> i have firefox as the website version, not packaged
[03:38] <surgy> Jucato: danielches i just got all the java packages :) havnt had a problem with java since
[03:39] <danielches> ok
[03:39] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-pluing | danielches
[03:39] <ubotu> danielches: Package sun-java6-pluing does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:39] <Jucato> bah
[03:39] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-plugin | danielches
[03:39] <surgy> danielches: why didnt you use apt-get to get firefox?
[03:39] <danielches> do you have ff from package or moz site?
[03:39] <ubotu> danielches: sun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:39] <Jucato> apparently I can't spell well
[03:39] <danielches> teh app get version is US english, i wanted UK english
[03:39] <surgy> danielches: my FF is from apt-get
[03:40] <joel> Jucato: It's a shell script that invoke /usr/bin/preload, and I can find preload in aptitude.
[03:40] <surgy> danielches: you can download the language packs within firefox
[03:40] <danielches> ?
[03:40] <Jucato> joel: ok good. but the script might not be 100% compatible, specially since Kubuntu is now using DASH instead of BASH
[03:40] <danielches> liek for firefox intself (not dictionary)
[03:42] <danielches> ?
[03:42] <makuseru> how do i import a GPG key
[03:42] <BenPA> itelikey ... I found the info as to how to report the bug and I did ... thanks for your help
[03:43] <joel> Jucato: Yeah. Well, I dont care to try it myself cause it's not something I want. DASH? omg, that's news to me. :)
[03:43] <ubuntu__> can someone pastebin their fstab for me, a functioning fstab :)
[03:43] <ubuntu__> !pastebin
[03:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:44] <ubuntu__> ?
[03:44] <ubuntu__> plz
[03:45] <emiliano> hola
[03:45] <emiliano> cmo va?
[03:46] <Fizzbane> i have just installed kubuntu on a seperate hd and now i would like to boot windows xp, but grub doesnt have it on there. How do i add windows xp to grub
[03:47] <emiliano> helo fizz
[03:47] <emiliano> open a konsole
[03:47] <Fizzbane> what is that
[03:47] <emiliano> Alt + F2
[03:47] <emiliano> konsole
[03:47] <Fizzbane> k i did that
[03:48] <joel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8730/   for a fstab
[03:48] <Fizzbane> konsole is open
[03:48] <emiliano> type mcedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:49] <joel> ubuntu__: you got it?
[03:49] <Fizzbane> type   mcedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:49] <Fizzbane> i cant do question marks
[03:49] <emiliano> sorry
[03:50] <emiliano> first you need to enter ass root
[03:50] <emiliano> to that type: su
[03:50] <emiliano> and put the root pass
[03:50] <Fizzbane> so su (pass)
[03:51] <Dasnipa`> emiliano, that sounds a bit messy
[03:51] <Fizzbane> ok i did that and the konsole dissapeard
[03:51] <grego> O_o
[03:51] <larson9999> what does this mean? Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[03:51] <emiliano> what is messy
[03:51] <Dasnipa`> emiliano, ass root
[03:51] <larson9999> besides this obvious
[03:51] <emiliano> i don't speak english
[03:51] <Eagle_101> ok anyone know of a CD burning program that can do ISOs and run on windows vista
[03:51] <emiliano> sorry
[03:52] <Fizzbane> is the konsole suppose to dissapear
[03:52] <emiliano> no
[03:52] <mtv> how do unmute in alsamixer
[03:52] <Fizzbane> well it did
[03:53] <emiliano> open another
[03:53] <Fizzbane> is it the run command thing
[03:53] <emiliano> yes
[03:53] <emiliano> are you on the console
[03:53] <emiliano> ?
[03:54] <Fizzbane> yes i think
[03:55] <me2win> he is not sure you you mean konsole like comand line with black screen
[03:55] <me2win> or the alt+f2 which is like the run prompt
[03:55] <me2win> you told him alt+f2, which is not konsole, its the single command run prompt
[03:55] <Eagle_101> ok anyone know of a CD burning program that can do ISOs and run on windows vista
[03:55] <me2win> so hes kinda confused
[03:56] <epenovi> read the conversation
[03:56] <epenovi> Alt + F2
[03:56] <epenovi> konsole
[03:56] <Fizzbane> i cant do private chat
[03:57] <epenovi> are you as root?
[03:57] <Fizzbane> im in run command
[03:57] <Fizzbane> i dont know what root is
[03:57] <epenovi> is the superuser of linux
[03:57] <epenovi> did you install linux
[03:57] <Fizzbane> yes
[03:57] <Jucato> root = superuser = administrator
[03:57] <Fizzbane> well how do i get into konsole
[03:58] <Fizzbane> cuz this isnt konsole, it is run command
[03:58] <epenovi> type alt+f2
[03:58] <epenovi> then type konsole
[03:58] <Fizzbane> ok
[03:58] <Fizzbane> there we go
[03:58] <Fizzbane> konsole is up
[03:58] <epenovi> then type su
[03:59] <Fizzbane> ok i typed su
[03:59] <insomni4k> Hello everyone.... I need some help, i've been googling for hours now..... has anyone ever been successful in access printer and file shares on a Vista box from Kubuntu?
[03:59] <Fizzbane> now it wants a password
[03:59] <mortici> woot that worked
[03:59] <mortici> but my sound doesn't work, but it did on the livecd ....
[04:00] <epenovi> type root password
[04:00] <Fizzbane> it wil not let me
[04:00] <mortici> and how do i change my default shell to be bash?
[04:00] <Dasnipa`> Fizzbane, youll probably want sudo instead
[04:00] <Fizzbane> i just want to boot windows
[04:00] <Fizzbane> i want to dual boot windows and linux
[04:01] <Fizzbane> i want to do it the easiest way possible
[04:01] <epenovi> do you have msn fizz
[04:01] <Fizzbane> yes
[04:01] <epenovi> tell me
[04:01] <epenovi> so we can chat privately
[04:01] <Fizzbane> but i cant use msn on this linux install since i dont have a msn thingy
[04:01] <epenovi> fuck
[04:01] <Fizzbane> yeah
[04:01] <epenovi> well
[04:02] <epenovi> do you remember root password
[04:02] <epenovi> you type it in the instalation
[04:02] <Fizzbane> is it the password that i use to get administrative powers
[04:02] <epenovi> yes
[04:02] <Fizzbane> then yes
[04:02] <epenovi> you need to enter as root
[04:02] <epenovi> so type su
[04:02] <Fizzbane> ok
[04:02] <Fizzbane> done
[04:02] <epenovi> and the root pass
[04:02] <ubuntu__> i am in the live cd using qtparted, and qtparted wont let me resize my ext3 partitions?!
[04:03] <mortici> can anyone help me out with two simple issues? first being how do i get my default shell to be bash not sh
[04:03] <Fizzbane> it has password :  but it wont let me type anything
[04:03] <mortici> and my sound worked on the live cd but doesn't work on the install any reason as to why?
[04:03] <epenovi> are you as root
[04:03] <epenovi> ?
[04:03] <Fizzbane> i dont know
[04:03] <Fizzbane> i typed su
[04:04] <Fizzbane> and now it wants the password
[04:04] <Fizzbane> but i cant type it in
[04:04] <epenovi> type whoami
[04:04] <Fizzbane> ok
[04:05] <Fizzbane> linux is hard
[04:05] <epenovi> are you as root
[04:05] <Fizzbane> i dont know
[04:05] <epenovi> type whoami
[04:06] <epenovi> what is the reult
[04:06] <beeko20> whoami
[04:06] <ubuntu__> Fizzbane: when you type su and are prompted for your password, when you type letters it wont show on the screen
[04:06] <ubuntu__> but they are still entered in
[04:06] <Fizzbane> oh
[04:06] <Fizzbane> i get it
[04:06] <epenovi> thanks ubuntu
[04:06] <Fizzbane> k i will try again -_-
[04:06] <me2win> even then dont you have to SET a root password still
[04:06] <ubuntu__> no wotties
[04:06] <ubuntu__> *worries
[04:06] <naught102> what is a good bitmap-to-text image reading package for ubuntu?
[04:07] <naught102> what's the technology called? OSD?
[04:07] <epenovi> i don't speak english and it's very difucult
[04:07] <Jucato> OCR
[04:07] <Fizzbane> how will i know i am root
[04:07] <epenovi> type whoami
[04:07] <naught102> thanks epenovi
[04:07] <Fizzbane> k
[04:07] <naught102> i mean Jucato
[04:07] <Fizzbane> what should it say now
[04:07] <epenovi> root
[04:08] <Fizzbane> well it says fizzbane
[04:08] <epenovi> you are not as root
[04:08] <epenovi> type su
[04:08] <Fizzbane> i have
[04:08] <epenovi> and the root pass
[04:08] <Jucato> root pass?
[04:08] <epenovi>  when you type su and are prompted for your password, when you type letters it wont show on the screen
[04:08] <Jucato> did he enable a root user?
[04:08] <Fizzbane> i dont know!
[04:09] <Fizzbane> i just installed
[04:09] <danielches> hi
[04:09] <epenovi> all linux have a root user
[04:09] <Fizzbane> i can get admin rights on the system config
[04:09] <Jucato> Fizzbane: what are you trying to do? (came in late)
[04:09] <bordy> hey folks... a guy contacting me for help on kubuntu just installed and his wireless will not connect. Anyone have decent knowledge on this stuff?
[04:09] <danielches> what was the otehr thing i had too do, after java finished installing?
[04:09] <Jucato> !root | epenovi
[04:09] <ubotu> epenovi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:09] <Fizzbane> configure grub to boot windows and linux
[04:09] <epenovi> yes i know
[04:09] <epenovi> are you as root?
[04:10] <Fizzbane> no
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <epenovi> TYPE su
[04:10] <Jucato> epenovi: Kubuntu doesn't have root user enabled. there is no root password by default
[04:10] <Fizzbane> i did and it doesnt work
[04:10] <me2win> epenovi: you have to enable su to work first
[04:10] <Fizzbane> how do i enable an su
[04:10] <Jucato> and that's not recommended, at least in Kubuntu
[04:10] <danielches> what else do i have to type into konsole to get java to work?
[04:10] <Jucato> Fizzbane: if you need to run a command as root, you just add "sudo" before that command
[04:11] <Fizzbane> ok
[04:11] <epenovi> well
[04:11] <Dr_willis> moo. :)
[04:11] <Fizzbane> what command do i need to put in for me to config grub to boot windows and linux
[04:11] <epenovi> type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:12] <Dr_willis> installer dident add a windows entry by default?
[04:12] <Fizzbane> nope
[04:12] <Dr_willis> odd.
[04:12] <Fizzbane> yeah
[04:12] <me2win> different partitions
[04:12] <me2win> thats why
[04:12] <Fizzbane> its a different hd
[04:12] <me2win> err
[04:12] <Dr_willis> theres an entry for windows on hda1 - in the examples
[04:12] <me2win> different HD
[04:12] <Dr_willis> It found MY windows on a different hd.
[04:12] <ubuntu__> Dr_willis: same
[04:12] <Fizzbane> it didnt find mine cuz my pc is retarded
[04:12] <danielches> how to i finish setting up java???
[04:13] <Dr_willis> heh - :)
[04:13] <Fizzbane> umm
[04:13] <Fizzbane> how do i redo my keyboard configureation
[04:13] <Fizzbane> cuz i dont do the slashes
[04:13] <Solid_Source> danielches: which browser and how did you install browser and java?
[04:14] <danielches> firefox, i got it from moz site,  and java, installed through konsole
[04:14] <Jucato> danielches: you installed sun-java6-plugin? that's what you need to be able to use java applets in Firefox
[04:14] <surgy> hey Dr_willis
[04:15] <Fizzbane> i cannot type slashes
[04:15] <Fizzbane> i get this instead of a slash 
[04:15] <epenovi> well buy a new keyboard
[04:15] <danielches> first, i wnat to get frostwire working
[04:16] <Fizzbane> i need to redo keyboard setting
[04:16] <Fizzbane> maybe
[04:16] <Jucato> danielches: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:16] <Jucato> danielches: choose the Sun Java version
[04:16] <epenovi> look in google
[04:16] <danielches> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre is how i installed
[04:16] <joel> epenovi: That's not really helpful.
[04:16] <Jucato> danielches: sudo update-alternatives --config java <--- run this command after installing
[04:17] <danielches> which number do i chose?
[04:17] <Jucato> danielches: the one that has sun java in the line
[04:17] <Fizzbane> i cannot type slashes on my keyboard anymore.
[04:17] <Solid_Source> danielches jucato: also to get firefox working after you install the plugin, copy the contents of "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/" to "/home/USER/.mozilla/plugins
[04:17] <Fizzbane> how do i fix that
[04:18] <Jucato> Solid_Source: only necessary for Fizzbane :)
[04:18] <Jucato> Solid_Source: not necessary if you installed firefox from the repos
[04:18] <joel> Fizzbane: Where in kde/x or in the console?
[04:18] <danielches> 2 options say sun
[04:18] <Solid_Source> Jucato: but he didn't install firefox through repo
[04:18] <Fizzbane> i cannot type slashes anywhere
[04:18] <Jucato> Solid_Source: yeah, that's why only necessar for danielches
[04:18] <Fizzbane> i get  instead
[04:18] <Jucato> danielches: sun java 1.6 ?
[04:19] <danielches> java 6?
[04:19] <Solid_Source> Jucato: thats who I was applying it to
[04:19] <danielches> or 1.5?
[04:19] <Jucato> danielches: yeah
[04:19] <danielches>  Selection    Alternative
[04:19] <danielches> -----------------------------------------------
[04:19] <danielches>           1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[04:19] <danielches>           2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[04:19] <danielches> *+        3    /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java
[04:19] <danielches>           4    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[04:19] <danielches> 6?
[04:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | danielches
[04:19] <ubotu> danielches: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:19] <danielches> ok
[04:19] <Jucato> danielches: yes, java-6
[04:19] <beeko20> what is this
[04:19] <mortici> !intel
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <danielches> so, now frost wire should work?
[04:20] <Jucato> Solid_Source: yeah, but you called me too :) nvm
[04:20] <danielches> yay! it does
[04:20] <Fizzbane> so how do i redo my keyboard
[04:20] <Jucato> danielches: should
[04:20] <gecko> hello
[04:20] <gecko> somebody speak in spanish?
[04:20] <joel> Fizzbane: Try "Systems settings" -> "Regional & Accesibilty"
[04:20] <Solid_Source> Jucato: true...was going to say something else...then changed it
[04:20] <gecko> my english is so bad
[04:20] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:20] <danielches> so, for ff?
[04:20] <Jucato> danielches: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:20] <joel> Fizzbane: ...then, try change keyboard layout.
[04:21] <Jucato> danielches: no need for the update-alternatives command
[04:21] <gecko> thanks
[04:21] <Fizzbane> YAY IT WORKED!
[04:21] <Fizzbane> thank you
[04:21] <danielches> ok, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:21] <joel> Fizzbane: You're welcome.
[04:21] <beeko20> ne one now a good place to learn command prompt
[04:22] <gecko> i want install driver VIA in my Kubuntu
[04:22] <Jucato> !cii | beeko20
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <beeko20> ty
[04:22] <Jucato> er sorry
[04:22] <Jucato> hm...
[04:22] <Fizzbane> ok epenovi i typed in that line you tole me to
[04:22] <BluesKaj> !cli | beeko20
[04:22] <ubotu> beeko20: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:23] <Fizzbane> now what do i do to configure grub to boot windows
[04:23] <Jucato> hehe thanks BluesKaj
[04:23] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:24] <mtv> i cant seem to get any sound for kubuntu.  It recognizes the sound card, i made sure nothing was muted in alsa mixer, and audio is enabled for the user
[04:24] <Fizzbane> ok i have /boot/grub/menu.lst open now what
[04:24] <igorjr> hi
[04:24] <igorjr> i just closed down an adept session while installing java
[04:24] <Jucato> !adeptfix | igorjr
[04:24] <ubotu> igorjr: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:25] <Solid_Source> igorjr: you using feisty?
[04:25] <igorjr> not 6.10
[04:25] <danielches> with:
[04:25] <danielches> danielches jucato: also to get firefox working after you install the plugin, copy the contents of "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/" to "/home/USER/.mozilla/plugins
[04:25] <igorjr> 6.06 i think
[04:25] <beeko20> i am knew to ubuntu is kde hard to lean
[04:25] <Solid_Source> igorjr: you can't install java in adept
[04:25] <danielches> is ther contents teh folder, or what is in the folder?
[04:25] <Jucato> beeko20: what is hard to learn about it?
[04:25] <Jucato> danielches: ask Solid_Source please
[04:26] <surgy> i have a problem: i need to limit the available bandwidth to all computers on my network on both up and down streams. But the program has to be invisible and run from a single computer to limit the bandwidth on the other two
[04:26] <igorjr> i can't ?
[04:26] <surgy> all computers are running edgy
[04:26] <Fizzbane> um since the guy that was helping me left can someone else tell me how to configure grub to boot windows and linux?
[04:26] <igorjr> it's available there
[04:26] <Solid_Source> igorjr: its available...but it crashes adept
[04:26] <igorjr> i c
[04:26] <beeko20> idk i have heard kde is hard for us that only know windows
[04:26] <Solid_Source> igorjr: got to use konsole "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[04:26] <igorjr> thx
[04:27] <Jucato> or rather, it freezes Adept
[04:27] <igorjr> ye
[04:27] <Jucato> beeko20: it's not hard touse
[04:27] <Fizzbane> can someone help me congigure grub to boot windows and linux?
[04:27] <surgy> jucato: can you shed any light on my problem?
[04:27] <igorjr> you have to agree to the license
[04:27] <igorjr> and there it fails
[04:27] <Jucato> beeko20: it's a bit diffrent from Windows, but not that different.
[04:27] <BluesKaj> beeko20, no gnome is harder for windows users...kde is much more windoze friendly
[04:27] <surgy> !grub Fizzbane
[04:27] <Solid_Source> danielches: mozilla-firefox contains the plugins for firefox...but since you install firefox manually, you have to copy them over
[04:27] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[04:27] <Jucato> surgy: sorry no idea..
[04:28] <surgy> jucato: ahhh man
[04:28] <Jucato> !grub | Fizzbane
[04:28] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:28] <beeko20> can you convert gnome to kde?
[04:28] <niles> hi
[04:28] <igorjr> ubotu: it seems, like it had worked
[04:28] <niles> where do i go to add a printer
[04:28] <igorjr> thx
[04:28] <surgy> forgot the | man i always leave out the small details
[04:28] <Jucato> beeko20: you can have both of them installed
[04:28] <Jucato> igorjr: ubotu is a bot
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !bot
[04:28] <Solid_Source> danielches: you may have to create the "plugins" folder in "/hme/USER/.mozilla/"
[04:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:28] <beeko20> a duel boot
[04:28] <igorjr> i got his message ;)
[04:28] <surgy> Dr_willis: any ideas on my problem?
[04:29] <Fizzbane> can some one help me with grub?
[04:29] <surgy> !grub | Fizzbane
[04:29] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:29] <Fizzbane> i didnt lose grub
[04:29] <igorjr> solid_source: thx, it worked
[04:29] <Fizzbane> i need it to reconize windows!
[04:29] <surgy> read it..... it will prolly help you
[04:30] <Fizzbane> but i didnt lose grub
[04:30] <Fizzbane> it there
[04:30] <Solid_Source> igorjr: now how did you install firefox?
[04:30] <igorjr> solid_source: didn't yet
[04:30] <igorjr> but i will use the add/remove programs option
[04:30] <BluesKaj> Fizzbane, just read it !
[04:30] <Solid_Source> danielches: when you install the mplayer-plugin and such, you will have to copy the plugins over again
[04:31] <Solid_Source> igorjr: ok then you shouldn't have any problems
[04:31] <Fizzbane> i read it
[04:31] <Fizzbane> it doesnt help
[04:31] <Fizzbane> i want grub to reconize windows which it hasnt
[04:31] <BluesKaj> fast reader
[04:32] <beeko20> if i am useing gnome can i load kde through the repositories
[04:32] <surgy> fizzbane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows its there first section
[04:32] <Fizzbane> i read fast
[04:32] <igorjr> am i able to resume my old utorrent with ktorrent?
[04:32] <danielches> how do i configur real player, with firefox?
[04:32] <Fizzbane> "Don't forget that this method, as described, puts GRUB back on the MBR (master boot record) of the hard drive instead of in the root parititon."
[04:33] <igorjr> i mean the downloads
[04:33] <danielches> I am getting error messages
[04:33] <Fizzbane> its on the MBR
[04:33] <Solid_Source> danielches: error messages doing what?
[04:33] <danielches> "can not find hxplay or real play in teh system path"
[04:34] <Jucato> Solid_Source: I think he might need to install mozilla-mplayer, but I don't know how to properly link it to Firefox
[04:34] <danielches> but there is no firefox missing plugins thing
[04:34] <Solid_Source> danielches: you need to install mplayer-plugin
[04:34] <danielches> ok
[04:34] <danielches> so, how do i do that
[04:34] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer
[04:34] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[04:35] <Jucato> Solid_Source, danielches ^^^
[04:35] <danielches> is that through adept
[04:35] <Solid_Source> danielches: yes
[04:35] <danielches> ok
[04:35] <Solid_Source> Jucato: mister speedy ubotu
[04:35] <Jucato> :P
[04:37] <Solid_Source> danielches: also while your in adept...install flash-nonfree
[04:37] <danielches> i have flash
[04:37] <danielches> :)
[04:37] <danielches> that still works :)
[04:37] <surgy> i have a problem: i need to limit the available bandwidth to all computers on my network on both up and down streams. But the program has to be invisible and run from a single computer to limit the bandwidth on the other two
[04:37] <Solid_Source> danielches: well ok then
[04:37] <mortici> poopy, why whould sound work on the live cd and not on the official install?
[04:38] <danielches> :)
[04:38] <rada> hi
[04:39] <danielches> hi
[04:40] <rada> I've just installed kubuntu and I'd like to install the newest firefox but I don't know how. I downloaded firefox.tar.gz from mozilla.org
[04:40] <danielches> ok
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !tar.gz
[04:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:40] <danielches> have you extracted it?
[04:41] <rada> I hoped I could use the package tools somehow
[04:41] <rada> like installing skype was easy
[04:42] <danielches> ff is easy
[04:42] <danielches> just extract it
[04:42] <Solid_Source> skype comes in a DEB file....
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !firefox
[04:42] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> follow the first link
[04:42] <me2win> you can apt-get it cant you?
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> me2win: yes
[04:42] <Fizzbane> ok i reinstalled grub onto my linux partion and i cannot boot windows still
[04:42] <Solid_Source> but to compile from tar.gz, you need build-essential
[04:43] <danielches> well, i downlaoded it, and i just run '/home/daniel/firefox/firefox', to run ff
[04:43] <Solid_Source> compile from source I mean
[04:43] <Dr_willis> i though there was a prebuilt binary iof firefox you could download
[04:43] <arunkale> Hey, people.. I just booted from my Edgy live CD.. it does not detect my resolution for some reason, the maximum resolution I can go to is 1024x768.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane,  grub has an entry for windows now?
[04:43] <me2win> arunkale: might have to add it manually to xorg.conf
[04:43] <arunkale> I have a widescreen 19" ViewSonic monitor, and the optimum resolution for this is 1440x900 ... i am also using an nvidia graphics card.
[04:44] <Fizzbane> Dr_willis: grub does NOT have a windows entery
[04:44] <mortici> anyone know why my network card doesn't work on boot up, i have to disable and enable it in order for it to get connectivity?
[04:44] <danielches> i am still getiing the same error with real player
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane,  guess ya should edit the grub menu.lst and an entry for windows. theres an example entry in it for windows on hda1
[04:44] <arunkale> me2win: i tried adding it to xorg.conf using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... it still wouldn't show. Also, I think it detects my monitor as 'generic monitor', and my video card as 'generic video card'
[04:45] <Fizzbane> how do i get in and edit it
[04:45] <me2win> arunkale: you will have to manually add it, not just use dpkg-reconfigure
[04:45] <Dr_willis> !grub
[04:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <danielches> mplayer has not helped
[04:45] <arunkale> me2win: how do I add it manually
[04:45] <Fizzbane> I READ THAT
[04:45] <Dr_willis> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:45] <danielches> or, how do i configar m player
[04:45] <Fizzbane> ok
[04:45] <me2win> arunkale: open it up and go down to where you see all the resolutions listed, add it to the front of the list in all the areas
[04:45] <me2win> arunkale: then restart X (ctrl alt backspace)
[04:46] <Solid_Source> danielches: well, you need to copy the stuff from "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/" over to your firefox folder in your USER folder
[04:46] <arunkale> me2win: it should work then?
[04:46] <me2win> arunkale: yep
[04:46] <arunkale> me2win: alright, let me try
[04:46] <danielches> ok
[04:46] <arunkale> me2win: thanks, see you in a bit
[04:46] <Solid_Source> danielches: if you installed firefox from the repo...you wouldn't have to
[04:47] <danielches> the fiels in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/, are both java
[04:47] <arunkale> err.. where is xorg.conf located?
[04:47] <Fizzbane> dr willis: that didnt work
[04:47] <Fizzbane> it says it was wrong
[04:47] <niles> i dont  see a print queue in the task bar.  is there supposed to be one?
[04:47] <niles> when printing that is
[04:47] <Solid_Source> danielches: it contains all plugins for firefox
[04:48] <me2win> arunkale: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:48] <arunkale> thanks
[04:48] <danielches> well, tehre are only 2 files in
[04:48] <danielches> file:///usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:48] <danielches> file:///usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[04:48] <danielches> are only 2
[04:49] <Fizzbane> Dr_willis: that line did not work
[04:49] <danielches> there is no real, or mplayer stuff in tehre
[04:49] <niles> jesus funny fuck'
[04:49] <Solid_Source> danielches: mozilla-mplayer package installed?
[04:49] <niles> jesus funny fuck'n christ.  after spening all that time setting up a printer.  my documents NOT print.
[04:49] <danielches> i will double check
[04:49] <danielches> i though i just did that
[04:49] <niles> christ on a stick.
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane,  ya need the proper entry/stanza - heres my example grub menu.lst  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8737/
[04:50] <Solid_Source> danielches: mozilla-mplayer is the actual name of the package that needs to be installed
[04:51] <Fizzbane> i had that once then someone told me to do something else
[04:51] <niles> linux sucks
[04:51] <Dr_willis> niles,  tell us how you really feel...
[04:51] <Dr_willis> we care... honestly we do.
[04:51] <Fizzbane> linux pwns when you learn it. and i havent learned it either
[04:51] <niles> i feel like bringing a gun to school.
[04:51] <niles> becuase linux is worthless when it comes to office work.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Given how i tried to format a floppy a disk in windows just a few min ago.. and the windows box powered down.......
[04:52] <niles> hence it's not in the real world like windows
[04:52] <Fizzbane> is that why your daddy beat you?
[04:52] <danielches> how does linux suck more than windows with office stuff
[04:52] <danielches> ?
[04:52] <Fizzbane> how do i get the grub menu.lst?
[04:52] <rada> how can I install text editor joe?
[04:52] <Solid_Source> niles: how is linux bad at office?
[04:52] <danielches> Open Office is way betetr than MS office
[04:53] <Solid_Source> yeah it is
[04:53] <me2win> danielches: ill have to disagree
[04:53] <danielches> how
[04:53] <me2win> office 2007 is VERY powerful software
[04:53] <danielches> Open Document is offficial world standard
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane,  kdesudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <me2win> format doesnt define quality of software
[04:53] <Fizzbane> im already in root
[04:53] <danielches> well, for what i need i find OO betetr
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane, then edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst  however ya want.
[04:54] <Fizzbane> i did that and it doesnt work
[04:54] <me2win> danielches: definately so, its not for everyone, just like linux
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Fizzbane,  im guessing ya did it wrong, or have some other configuration issue/error in the file
[04:54] <danielches> ok
[04:54] <danielches> mozilla-mplayer, is reporting as installed, but it is not in the plugins folder
[04:55] <Solid_Source> me2win: office 2007 isn't much better than office 2003....
[04:55] <danielches> what is tehh supposed advantage of MS Office over Open Office???
[04:55] <me2win> its a ton better
[04:55] <Solid_Source> danialches: check "/usr/lib/mozilla"
[04:55] <danielches> how?
[04:55] <rada> are the installation packages somewhere on the net? so I can install them via aptitude?
[04:55] <Fizzbane> I had it open before
[04:56] <me2win> every program integrates perfectly with eachother, tooltipping and ease of use are through the roof now. every option is presented right there to you with complete description of what it does
[04:56] <me2win> programs work seamlessly together
[04:56] <me2win> on the fly previewing
[04:56] <danielches> thanks solid source, it was there :)
[04:56] <me2win> access databasing software is great software
[04:57] <monsterb> !firewall
[04:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:57] <danielches> how is access betetr than OO database?
[04:57] <surgy> !bandwidth
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bandwidth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <Solid_Source> me2win: well I've used office 2007 and there is nothing that would even want to make me want to take it over OO
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[04:57] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:57] <Solid_Source> ever*
[04:58] <me2win> not only that but, complete integration into office live, online workspaces and management
[04:58] <Fizzbane> how do i open the grub menu
[04:58] <me2win> Solid_Source: like i said, its not for everyone
[04:58] <Fizzbane> cuz its just not working
[04:58] <Solid_Source> me2win: that live stuff is another reason not to use it
[04:59] <me2win> Solid_Source: lol... office live is something OO will never be able to offer
[04:59] <Solid_Source> me2win: never would want it too
[04:59] <danielches> is that the online use thing?
[04:59] <me2win> Solid_Source: you dont need it, thats why
[04:59] <me2win> thats like me saying i dont want an xray machine in my home
[04:59] <me2win> i have no use for it
[05:00] <danielches> Open Office is already avalible online, through some sites
[05:00] <me2win> but the people who do, its lightyears ahead of anything that OO has to offer
[05:00] <me2win> especially large scale business use
[05:00] <CShadowRun> hmm, im hearing about this virtual machine software, is it true that you can run a complete virtual machine inside linux and install another OS like windows xp on it?
[05:00] <danielches> what does it do?
[05:00] <CShadowRun> and if so, can someone point me at some website to read about it? :P
[05:01] <surgy> i have a problem: i need to limit the available bandwidth to all computers on my network on both up and down streams. But the program has to be invisible and run from a single computer to limit the bandwidth on the other two
[05:01] <Solid_Source> me2win: no, if it offered something that I didn't already have going, theres no point to it
[05:02] <danielches> mplayer is not working properly
[05:02] <surgy> danielches: it does that
[05:02] <Solid_Source> go try apple.com/trailors
[05:02] <danielches> the vid is not playing
[05:02] <Solid_Source> and then when trying to load the movie right click >> options/pref
[05:03] <Fizzbane> what do i type in konsole to open up the grub menu so i can manualy add windows? and it is NOT "edit /boot/grub/meun.lst"
[05:03] <Solid_Source> you may need to set the video and audio selections
[05:03] <danielches> the apple thing seems to be loading
[05:03] <danielches> but BBC news was stuffing up
[05:03] <rada> can somebody tell me about installing/aptitude/adept??
[05:03] <igorjr> is there a music-player available, similar to the classic winamp?
[05:04] <jay> xmms?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> igorjr,  xmms, beep media player, audasious, (sp?) and.. hmm some others
[05:04] <igorjr> thx
[05:04] <Solid_Source> danielches: which BBC news clip?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> # Audacious
[05:05] <danielches> 5 secs
[05:06] <danielches> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm and "warnings against Iran attack"
[05:07] <Fizzbane> ok i have the konsole open how do i get into the grub menu
[05:07] <danielches> its different to the one on teh mac site
[05:07] <danielches> mac site worked fine
[05:08] <danielches> but this one does nto appear to be loading
[05:08] <Solid_Source> mac is using quicktime
[05:08] <danielches> ok
[05:08] <danielches> this is real i guess
[05:08] <danielches> it just says "stopped"
[05:08] <Solid_Source> install realplayer
[05:08] <danielches> i have
[05:08] <danielches> but it was coming with abotehr error
[05:09] <danielches> which caused me to install mplayer
[05:09] <danielches> how do i tell it to use real player for real stuff?
[05:10] <purpleposeidon> Fizzbane: try "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:10] <danielches> and in wmp mode, on bbc, i get sound but no video
[05:10] <Fizzbane> i will try that
[05:11] <Solid_Source> danielches: one sec, testing something
[05:11] <Fizzbane> it workd
[05:11] <Fizzbane> it worked*
[05:11] <Fizzbane> now how do i add windows to it
[05:11] <beeko20> ne pointer for kde install is almost done
[05:12] <Fizzbane> how do i add windows to the grub menu, i already have the menu up
[05:12] <purpleposeidon> it depends on what partition/disk it's on
[05:13] <Fizzbane> its on my sata drive
[05:13] <Fizzbane> linux is on my ide drive
[05:13] <purpleposeidon> hda, hdb?
[05:13] <Fizzbane> hda i believe
[05:14] <purpleposeidon> your at the grub boot menu?
[05:14] <Fizzbane> yes
[05:14] <Solid_Source> danielches: err I can't get windows media player or realplayer plugins to work either
[05:15] <danielches> ok
[05:15] <purpleposeidon> get to the grub console
[05:15] <purpleposeidon> I think it's c, or something
[05:15] <Fizzbane> huh?
[05:15] <igorjr> !compile
[05:15] <purpleposeidon> escape, actually
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:15] <Fizzbane> how do i get to the grub console?
[05:16] <purpleposeidon> press escape?
[05:16] <Fizzbane> k hold on
[05:16] <purpleposeidon> when it shows the list of the ways to boot....
[05:17] <Fizzbane> i clicked escape and nothing happened
[05:18] <purpleposeidon> Fizzbane: what does say below the list?
[05:19] <Fizzbane> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[05:19] <CShadowRun> how do i copy a file to the '/' directory?
[05:19] <purpleposeidon> oh.
[05:19] <CShadowRun> i can't do it in konqerer because it says i don't have permission
[05:20] <purpleposeidon> can you mount the windows drive in konqueror?
[05:20] <Solid_Source> danielches: think I found something to get realplayer to work
[05:20] <Fizzbane> what?
[05:20] <purpleposeidon> mmm....
[05:20] <CShadowRun> [purpleposeidon-> yea you can mount windows drives in linux, gimme a sec and i'll try and get you some info
[05:20] <purpleposeidon> it's not a removable hard drive, right?
[05:20] <bewl> quick questions, i see on some screenshots with kubuntu that people have a terminal "on" their desktop, how is this done?
[05:21] <CShadowRun> [purpleposeidon-> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[05:21] <purpleposeidon> CShadowRun: I wasn't asking you :b ^^^
[05:21] <bonbonthejon> !kuake
[05:21] <bewl> For instance http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotnq8.png
[05:21] <ubotu> kuake: Console which looks like Quake game console. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-5 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 244 kB
[05:21] <Fizzbane> no it is not
[05:21] <jake_> guys please help my adept says "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.:
[05:21] <CShadowRun> [Pupeno3-> well you can allways ask someone else and get the same answer :P
[05:21] <Fizzbane> it is a 300gb maxtor sata drive
[05:21] <bonbonthejon> !kuake | bewl
[05:21] <ubotu> bewl: please see above
[05:21] <bewl> Thanks guys :)
[05:22] <mortici> bewl: i got it up and running
[05:22] <mortici> but i got some small issues lol
[05:22] <CShadowRun> how do i copy a file to the '/' directory?
[05:22] <bewl> Hey Mort
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> jake_: something is locking the apt database
[05:22] <CShadowRun> i can't do it in konqerer because it says i don't have permission
[05:22] <rada> how can I play my mp3s?
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> jake_: there is a command to fix it, or you can reboot
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> !mp3 | rada
[05:22] <ubotu> rada: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <Fizzbane> purpleposiodon: it is not a removable hd
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> CShadowRun: sudo cp file destination
[05:23] <joel> lolz @ CShadowRun & purpleposeidon
[05:23] <CShadowRun> [bonbonthejon-> thanks :)
[05:23] <jake_> i rebooted then nothing happens
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> Fizzbane: do you know what partition it's on?
[05:23] <bonbonthejon> jake_: same error?
[05:23] <rada> how can I "Ensure the relevant repositories are enabled"?????
[05:23] <Fizzbane> partition what is on?
[05:24] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | rada
[05:24] <ubotu> rada: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:24] <Fizzbane> partition linux is on or windows?
[05:24] <purpleposeidon> windows
[05:24] <jake_> yup same error, somebody gaveme the command before but i forgot anybody knows?
[05:24] <purpleposeidon> Or is windows completly on the s-whatever disk?
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> !apt-lock
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> !adept
[05:25] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:25] <spitwise> !bot-spam
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Fizzbane> windows is on a totaly different hd than linux
[05:25] <jake_> guys?
[05:25] <purpleposeidon> is windows on hda or hdb
[05:25] <purpleposeidon> ?
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> jake_: hold on, ill look it up
[05:26] <rada> I downloaded new resource list. what should I do with it?
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> rada: save it as your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <Fizzbane> hda i think
[05:26] <jake_> bonbonthejon: thanx
[05:27] <bonbonthejon> !aptfix | jake_
[05:27] <ubotu> jake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:28] <purpleposeidon> okay, add (replacing ~ with enters): title Windows ~ root (hd0) ~ savedefault ~ makeactive ~chainloader +1
[05:28] <purpleposeidon> add that to the very bottom of the file
[05:28] <makuseru> what other programs besides K3B will burn a DVD?
[05:29] <purpleposeidon> I think it'll work. Xb
[05:29] <Fizzbane> ....
[05:29] <Fizzbane> i hope so
[05:30] <Solid_Source> danielches: ok think I got realplayer plugin to work...though I not sure exactly how to explain for you to do it
[05:30] <Fizzbane> is that a space between chainloader and +1
[05:30] <purpleposeidon> maybe someone who's better than me with grub can correct me?
[05:30] <purpleposeidon> yes
[05:31] <surgy> i have a problem: i need to limit the available bandwidth to all computers on my network on both up and down streams. But the program has to be invisible and run from a single computer to limit the bandwidth on the other two
[05:31] <Fizzbane> ok i typed that in
[05:32] <DaveQB> makuseru toaster i think
[05:32] <DaveQB> surgy squid might do what you need
[05:32] <purpleposeidon> then control-o will write it, and control-x will exit nano
[05:32] <Fizzbane> ok
[05:32] <surgy> daveqb: all the computers have to run through a centralized computer running squid and working as a router for squid to work right?
[05:32] <arunkale> Hey, people... I just ran the Edgy live CD, and it's detecting my monitor and video card as 'generic monitor' and 'generic video card'. How do I get it to detect them accurately? I am using a ViewSonic 19" widescreen monitor, and nVidia GeForce 6150 video card
[05:33] <Fizzbane> umm i click control+o and now i cant do control+x
[05:33] <surgy> arunkale: install edgy and then come back we will help you get your vid card installed
[05:33] <purpleposeidon> err, press enter between them :b
[05:33] <arunkale> surgy: alright, thanks
[05:33] <surgy> Fizzbane: no clicking use your keyboard
[05:34] <DaveQB> surgy how do you mean ?  The squid server can then send and receive through any other device/router etc, you just need the clients on the network to use the squid server
[05:34] <igorjr> xmms is great, but i miss the right-click options :(
[05:34] <DaveQB> never used squid myself, not sure if it does more then just http, i think it does though
[05:35] <rob_> hello can i get some hellp on installing themes? I get the qt header not found error during configure
[05:35] <surgy> DaveQB: the program has to either run on a remote computer or be invisable, im wanting to limit the bandwidth without the user knowing, its my stepdad and i dont want to hear him gripe
[05:36] <Fizzbane> i am using my keyboard
[05:36] <DaveQB> surgy  like I said, havent used squid, so you will have to do your own research on it, I am just offering a posible avenue
[05:37] <surgy> DaveQB: i appreciate it
[05:37] <Fizzbane> i keep getting a ting sound
[05:37] <Fizzbane> nvm
[05:37] <surgy> DaveQB: i have read a few paragraphs on it, not what im looking for i think
[05:37] <Fizzbane> ill go see if it worked
[05:37] <purpleposeidon> hopefully I didn't miss anything, if that boosts your confidence :b
[05:38] <DaveQB> ok
[05:39] <mortici_> this sucks
[05:40] <mortici_> my sound works fine in the livecd and the network card works and gets detected fine by knetworkmanager but neither works on my installed version :/
[05:40] <rob_> anyone know how to solve a qt header not found error during ./configure
[05:41] <Solid_Source> ok, anyone know why mplayer won't work with real or windows media files?
[05:41] <DaveQB> surgy  a mate said iptables can do it
[05:41] <leafw> how can one trigger suspend or hibernate from the command line? Is apm -s the proper command?  I mean, apm complains there is no support for it in the kernel
[05:41] <DaveQB> surgy  the good old kernel saving the day again
[05:42] <surgy> daveqb: and i can run it from this computer to limit his bandwidth ?
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> rob_: install the headers
[05:42] <DaveQB> obviously it needs to sit between the clients and the internet
[05:42] <jake_> guys please help my adept says :You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[05:42] <DaveQB> not sure of your set up, or which "this computer" is
[05:43] <surgy> DaveQB: yeah thats my problem, the whole reason i cant use squid
[05:43] <bonbonthejon> !aptfix | jake_
[05:43] <ubotu> jake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:43] <jake_> sorry ill try again
[05:43] <surgy> jake_: close everything and try again if that doesnt work restart your computer and try
[05:43] <DaveQB> well how do you expect to do this if the trffic doesnt run through the system you prpose to do the throttling ?  Thats impossible
[05:44] <surgy> DaveQB: a background process on the computer in question, or a setting i dont know about on my router
[05:44] <surgy> DaveQB: it has to be invisible though
[05:44] <DaveQB> jake_ try what ubotu said first, if not, I have something oj my blog about this. www.dward.us
[05:44] <shegde> hi
[05:45] <purpleposeidon> surgy: try the router
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> surgy: there might be some QoS stuff on the router, but this all sounds suspicious
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> hi shegde
[05:45] <jmiller565> !kdm
[05:45] <DaveQB> iptables should be, just as long as the traffic passes through it so the sytem can throttle the traffic, otherwise it wont able to, obviously
[05:45] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[05:45] <surgy> purpleposeidon: bonbonthejon: its a 2wire router
[05:45] <shegde> can someone suggest me how to put a script just with two lines so that it gets executed when i boot
[05:45] <surgy> bonbonthejon: how is it suspicious?
[05:45] <purpleposeidon> surgy: sw00t
[05:45] <jake_> btw guys how can i change my password?
[05:45] <DaveQB> jake_  passwd <username>
[05:46] <DaveQB> jake_  or in system settings
[05:46] <surgy> purpleposeidon: you know the router?
[05:46] <purpleposeidon> no :b
[05:47] <bonbonthejon> jake_: I'm suspicious why you would want to down throttle traffic from his computer
[05:47] <surgy> what is "upstream MTU" ?
[05:47] <surgy> i see it on my routers "advanced settings"
[05:47] <mortici_> god i hope this works lol
[05:48] <bonbonthejon> surgy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
[05:49] <shegde> can someone suggest me how to put a script just with two lines so that it gets executed when i boot
[05:49] <DaveQB> surgy how many bits are in a packet, is my understanding
[05:49] <DaveQB> 1494 i think is the default and good value, I have had 1500 cause problems
[05:49] <shegde> MTU=MAXIMUM TRANSFER UNIT
[05:49] <surgy> so i cant use MTU to limit bandwidth?
[05:49] <DaveQB> no
[05:49] <purpleposeidon> no
[05:50] <Solid_Source> anyone know how to get mplayer-plugin to play real media and windows media? it doesn't work in firefox or konqueror?
[05:50] <shegde> MTU=Largest packet that would go through an interface
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> surgy: no, it is the number of packets in between breaks
[05:50] <surgy> ahh
[05:50] <mortici_> wewt fixed my network issue
[05:50] <mortici_> now to get the sound to work
[05:50] <surgy> i know little about this subject beyond the basics, what should i be looking for? to limit bandwidth?
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> shegde: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
 sorry but im new to linux, my pass is only 1 cahracter ( ` ) i cannot edit setting because the terminal doesnt read this character, sorry sir
[05:52] <purpleposeidon> bonbonthejon: thanks, that's helpful ^_^
[05:52] <DaveQB> jake_  try escaping it with a \
[05:52] <bonbonthejon> purpleposeidon: the link?
[05:52] <purpleposeidon> si
[05:52] <bonbonthejon> jake_: he means like \'
[05:52] <DaveQB> but should read all characters as literals when entering in a password
[05:53] <jake_> ok but i wanna change my pass without using terminal, but how?
[05:53] <DaveQB> the passwd program handles spaces without escaping, so should handle any other characters too I would of thought
[05:54] <jake_> but it didnt work
[05:55] <jake_> try it, or maybe there's something wrong with keyboards?
[05:55] <bonbonthejon> jake_: "passwd -d" i think deletes the password, then add a new one
[05:55] <DaveQB> nice one bonbonthejon
[05:56] <bonbonthejon> DaveQB: i just did a quick passwd --help
[05:57] <DaveQB> hehe yeah usually where you discover new things
[05:58] <bonbonthejon> DaveQB: things like --help and good ole' ls are things I miss when I have to use windows
[05:59] <jake_> but how do i change pass without using the konsole?
[05:59] <spitwise_> konsole is your friend
[05:59] <Jucato> System Settings -> User Management
[06:00] <Jucato> jake_: ^^
[06:00] <jake_> ok sorry im a newbie
[06:00] <jake_> thanx for patience guys lol
[06:01] <duckdown> Can someone tell me what I need to do to watch certain types of videos in Firefox? (The missing plugin says I need application/x-mplayer2)
[06:02] <Jucato> duckdown: install mozilla-mplayer
[06:02] <duckdown> sweet! thanks
[06:02] <surgy>  i have a problem: i need to limit the available bandwidth to all computers on my network on both up and down streams. But the program has to be invisible and run from a single computer to limit the bandwidth on the other two
[06:02] <duckdown> err no such package
[06:02] <duckdown> is this through apt Jucato ?
[06:02] <Admiral_Chicago> duckdown: yes
[06:03] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer
[06:03] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[06:03] <Jucato> it's in multiverse
[06:03] <duckdown> i dont have it appaently :<
[06:04] <Solid_Source> anyone know an IRC channel for Mplayer...cause the #mplayer here on freenode sucks
[06:05] <surgy> Solid_Source: nopers
[06:05] <igorjr> hi, which driver should i choose for my ati radeon?
[06:05] <jughead> How can I manage my autostarted apps in KDE?  I added beryl-manager (I can't remember how I did it) and I would like to remove it.
[06:05] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati | igorjr
[06:05] <ubotu> igorjr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <duckdown> i have this line in my sources.list: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse   yet no mozilla-mplayer is found when i try to apt-get install
[06:05] <surgy> igorjr: ummm try the one udotu suggests
[06:06] <igorjr> k, thx
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> duckdown: have you done, sudo apt-get update?
[06:06] <duckdown> yes
[06:06] <surgy> yeah my step dad couldnt find it either
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> this is all in one line?
[06:06] <ahlalo_elyon> How would I go about getting all the information on Feisty (such as additions, bugfixes, etc)?  I've looked around the Ubuntu website, but I'm confused as to what to look for...
[06:06] <duckdown> Admiral_Chicago, is what all in one line?
[06:06] <duckdown> that thing I pasted? yes
[06:07] <mortici> is there any reason that alsamixer shows my device, shows its unmuted and work fine but still kmix can't detect it and there is no sound comming out?
[06:07] <surgy> ahlalo_elyon: maybe try the bleeding edge kubuntu repo?
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> that's the only line thing in your sources
[06:07] <ahlalo_elyon> surgy: Forgive me, I don't know how to check that...
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[06:07] <duckdown> no, there are others, but thats the one with multiverse in it
[06:07] <duckdown> you want to see the whole list/
[06:08] <duckdown> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:08] <duckdown> errr
[06:08] <duckdown> http://www.pastebin.ca/381960
[06:08] <duckdown> that is my sources.list
[06:09] <duckdown> im using kubuntu-edgy
[06:09] <surgy> ahlalo_elyon: use the automatic sources.list generator it will give you the bleeding edge repo in the list
[06:09] <ahlalo_elyon> surgy: But I'm actually just looking for some kind of document that details what will be in the release of Feisty.  I'm running Edgy right now.
[06:09] <jack_deltrino> how do i rip last.fm streams?
[06:10] <ahlalo_elyon> jack_deltrino: Try asking in #amarok if you can't get an answer here.
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think you can jack_deltrino
[06:10] <surgy> ahlalo_elyon: cant help
[06:10] <ahlalo_elyon> ok...thanks
[06:11] <jake_> guys did you experinced, playing last.fm at amarok but no sounds coming out, is there problem with my sound card?
[06:11] <jack_deltrino> ahlalo_elyon: alright, will do
[06:11] <jack_deltrino> jake_: possibly, or it could be that ALSA isn't setup properly as well
[06:12] <Jucato> duckdown: add the word "multiverse" at the end of lines 16 and 17. add it beside "universe"
[06:12] <jake_> but when i play adio cd, everything'sfine
[06:14] <jake_> how do setup the ALSA?
[06:14] <mortici_> jake_: were in the same boat
[06:15] <mortici_> i can't get my intel HD card to work on the install but it works fine on the LiveCD .... gah
[06:17] <LL_Hakaisou> can someone recommend me an ISO ripper?
[06:18] <tinchio_> LL_Hakaisou:  k3b ?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> LL_Hakaisou: umm - ISO ripper? You don't rip ISOs
[06:19] <duckdown> Jucato, great thanks alot mate, ill try that
[06:19] <thoreauputic> LL_Hakaisou: what do you mean?
[06:19] <tinchio_> mey be he means burner instead riper
[06:19] <thoreauputic> hmm I guess
[06:22] <LL_Hakaisou> i mean a program that can get an iso from a CD.
[06:22] <mortici> gah how do i update to a newer kernel
[06:22] <Solid_Source> !restrictedformats
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <LL_Hakaisou> hello solid
[06:23] <LL_Hakaisou> managed to get WoW running =D
[06:23] <Solid_Source> what there were problems?
[06:23] <LL_Hakaisou> yea, but it's mostly that my ram is going bad
[06:23] <LL_Hakaisou> i ordered 4 new identical sticks of 512 ram
[06:24] <LL_Hakaisou> it still has intermittent crashes, but i'm working on it
[06:25] <Solid_Source> hmm, interesting, I haven't had any problems
[06:26] <mortici> how can i downgrade the kernel to 2.6.17-10?
[06:27] <Solid_Source> from 2.6.17.11?
[06:28] <Solid_Source> amd why? not that it matters, don't think you can
[06:32] <mortici> YAY! sound works!
[06:33] <slyfox> Does Kopete suppor sending files via MSN protocol ?
[06:33] <ahlalo_elyon> is gdesklets made for GNOME?
[06:33] <ahlalo_elyon> !info gdesklets
[06:33] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[06:34] <Solid_Source> mortici_: ok, guess you can downgrade the kernel, though only can find people saying you can, nothing on how to
[06:34] <ahlalo_elyon> ...and is there something similar for KDE?
[06:34] <bonbonthejon> !superkaramba | ahlalo_elyon
[06:34] <ubotu> ahlalo_elyon: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:35] <bonbonthejon> mortici_: i guess just install the kernel,
[06:36] <Solid_Source> slyfox: your supposed to be able to
[06:37] <Solid_Source> slyfox: I know it doesn't work in yahoo...but supposed to work in msn
[06:42] <sampan> is there an easy way to check the MAC address of my network card on my desktop?
[06:42] <osiris> ifconfig in a term
[06:43] <sampan> thank you osiris  :)
[06:43] <osiris> yep
[06:43] <osiris> anyone here set up vsftp with read write access ?
[06:44] <osiris> the problem i am having is the ftp client wants to connect the user to their home directory instead of the ftp directory
[06:44] <osiris> the users home directory doesnt even exist
[06:45] <Solid_Source> this your server?
[06:45] <osiris> yes
[06:45] <lordkeiden_> how do i add stuff to start when kde starts?
[06:45] <Solid_Source> using gftp?
[06:45] <osiris> as the client to test, yes.
[06:46] <osiris> but ultimately it will be voip phones pointed there to get firmware, and update config files
[06:46] <Solid_Source> I meant are using GproFTPd? forgot about the client
[06:47] <osiris> the server is vsftpd
[06:47] <Jucato> !autostart | lordkeiden_
[06:47] <ubotu> lordkeiden_: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:48] <Solid_Source> osiris: hmm don't use that, so I guess I'm useless
[06:48] <osiris> ok, let me ask you this
[06:48] <lordkeiden_> thanks Jucato
[06:48] <osiris> how do i define a users home dir
[06:49] <winux> how can i put aplications on kxdocker?
[06:49] <Solid_Source> well its really easy in GproFTPd...just define the directory for the FTP user to login to
[06:50] <lordkeiden_> what do i need to install to get the kernel config plugin for KDE Control Center?
[06:50] <osiris> no, not on the ftp level, but on a user level.  if i were to login via ssh for example, my home dir is what i log into.
[06:51] <Solid_Source> hmm sorry don't know that one
[06:53] <BeefotronX> what kind of graphics problem would cause Blender to crash X after a few minutes of use?
[06:53] <osiris> BeefotronX, bad video drivers
[06:54] <osiris> or a dying video card
[06:54] <BeefotronX> Maybe
[06:54] <osiris> what kind of card
[06:54] <BeefotronX> radeon 9600
[06:55] <BeefotronX> I think with fglrx it crashes X, with mesa blender just crashes by itself.
[06:55] <jake_> help again guys, i forgot the codelist for this, my adept says "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[06:56] <Gizmo48> Beef,  what is blender?
[06:56] <BeefotronX> 3d modeling/animation app
[06:57] <Gizmo48> So  graphics intensive....   heat could be your problem.  whens the last time you popped the case and blew out the cobwebs?
[06:57] <BeefotronX> A few weeks ago
[06:58] <Gizmo48> did any of the fans have play in the bearings?   did u chk that?
[06:58] <BeefotronX> yeah all the fans are good
[06:59] <lordkeiden_> what kde app will let me compile a new kernel?
[06:59] <Gizmo48> how does it crash?
[06:59] <Jucato> !kernel | lordkeiden_
[06:59] <ubotu> lordkeiden_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:59] <mortici> !restricted
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <BeefotronX> Well, I load up Blender, it works fine for a few minutes, then the screen just goes black and X restarts.
[07:00] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[07:00] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:00] <BeefotronX> Or, when I was using mesa, Blender just closes.
[07:01] <osiris> have you tried the drivers from ATI ?
[07:01] <BeefotronX> hmm
[07:01] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX: after the crash, can you restart blender and run for the same amount of time each restart, or is it less and less time after each crash?
[07:02] <BeefotronX> About the same time
[07:02] <crackhead> question: what open source internet collaborative meeting projects/applications are there, that could replace or do what webex, netmeeting and others do?
[07:02] <Gizmo48> That sounds like software then, not hardware, BUT, when u popped the case did u re-seat the cards, mem, and bios chip
[07:03] <BeefotronX> I think I did that
[07:03] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX: i would try another 3d intensive app to compare results, to help decide between driver and app issues.
[07:04] <Gizmo48> Then software
[07:05] <Gizmo48> lordk may have another angle 4 u to pursue
[07:05] <lordkeiden_> perhaps Google Earth, flying around the globe for longer that you can run Blender for, or beryl, spinning the cube around, od k3d
[07:05] <jake_> guys?
[07:05] <lordkeiden_> od=or
[07:06] <posingaspopular> jake_: i know your problem
[07:06] <posingaspopular> i forgetthecommand
[07:06] <jake_> lol
[07:06] <lordkeiden_> or Google Earth while running beryl
[07:06] <BeefotronX> Well, I tried running a screensaver and x crashed
[07:06] <jake_> somebody gave it to i forgot it too
[07:07] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX: after a simular amount of time?
[07:07] <BeefotronX> no
[07:07] <jake_> anybody guys please....
[07:07] <BeefotronX> The screensaver crashed immediately
[07:08] <Gizmo48> Oh, that cant be a good thing
[07:08] <lordkeiden_> i would look into alternative 3d drivers for your video card then...
[07:08] <osiris> how do you add a user to a group from the cli
[07:08] <BeefotronX> i'm downloading ati's drivers now
[07:08] <Gizmo48> is this something that just started happening?  Specifically, did you have a stable system, then monkey with it and get where u r now?
[07:09] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX: are you on edgy?
[07:09] <BeefotronX> Edgy yeah
[07:10] <lordkeiden_> good ? Gizmo48
[07:10] <Gizmo48> Using the drivers meant for your card is always a good thing.   Crashes are NOT good :-)
[07:11] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX:  did u see Gizmo48 last question?
[07:11] <BeefotronX> yeah
[07:11] <crackhead> what's the command to change your login on the irc?
[07:11] <BeefotronX> I think it was stable before
[07:11] <ravehanker> I installed kde on my ubuntu system a few days ago and Now, some of my keyboard Shorcuts don't work in Gnome. How do i fix this?
[07:11] <Gizmo48> before the crashes, or before you modified something
[07:12] <lordkeiden_> ok. thak lends away from the drivers...but ati is very flaky...
[07:12] <BeefotronX> I did mess with things to try to get beryl running last week.
[07:12] <lordkeiden_> thak=that
[07:12] <lordkeiden_> did u succeed?
[07:12] <BeefotronX> Sorta, not really
[07:12] <BeefotronX> It was too slow
[07:12] <lordkeiden_> lol...
[07:13] <lordkeiden_> did u use the commercial drivers from ati then?
[07:14] <lordkeiden_> i only laugh cuz i remember the brain damage i got with the ati/beryl ordeal!
[07:15] <Gizmo48> are u running KUBUNTU?
[07:16] <lordkeiden_> kinda like when you shoot your own foot...it hurt so bad you laughed....it was like that for me. But, once it was set up, it was every bit as good as on my nvidia lappy
[07:16] <lordkeiden_> Gizmo48: me or BeefotronX?
[07:16] <Gizmo48> Beef
[07:17] <BeefotronX> yes i am on kubuntu
[07:17] <Gizmo48> Do you have the translucency/shadows checkbox checked in the KDE control module <translucency.?
[07:17] <BeefotronX> no
[07:17] <Gizmo48> Hmm...   Aint computin' fun?
[07:20] <eean> computer r0ck
[07:20] <lordkeiden_> before you install the ati drivers, did u just run the installer?
[07:21] <lordkeiden_> BeefotronX: or did you follow a howto from the ubuntu site?
[07:21] <Gizmo48> my final word then:    Load the latest commercial drivers for your card. /  Hook up with a local users groupthere in penn.
[07:22] <spitwise> ,,
[07:30] <Hudson> I asked this in #ubuntu but was unable to get a solid answer.
[07:30] <Hudson> What file deals with mounting usb drives? I have an external USB HDD formatted in NTFS
[07:31] <Hudson> I have installed NTFS3g but I want to tell kubuntu to auto mount it with the 3g driver isntead of the standard ubuntu NTFS driver
[07:31] <Hudson> what file is the usb drive equivalent of fstab?
[07:32] <osiris> anyone know of a nice tree view xml editor ?
[07:32] <osiris> like xml-notepad for windows ?
[07:32] <wizard> so maybe someone here can help me out
[07:33] <Jucato> !kxmleditor | osiris
[07:33] <wizard> i finally got this harddrive i wanted to use in my server set up and working..... its formatted to linux but now when i try to boot the computer with both drives in (set to cable select) grub never boots.
[07:33] <ubotu> osiris: kxmleditor: XML Editor for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 796 kB, installed size 1964 kB
[07:33] <posingaspopular> !grub
[07:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:33] <wizard> i know where grub is
[07:34] <wizard> its simply not booting for some reason
[07:34] <posingaspopular> wizard: sleep tonight but if i wasnt, i'd help you out. let me know if you're up in a few hours and still need help
[07:34] <posingaspopular> by few i meant 10
[07:34] <wizard> posingaspopular: i probably will.. i think its the fact that its cable select
[07:34] <wizard> however one partition is just a simple ext3 primary partition on a 200gb harddrive so im at a loss
[07:36] <Huey> is the plucker package broken? the plucker-build script seems to be missing
[07:45] <asgard> hey guys i have a little qeustion why would there be 5 instances of sh running in my system tray ?
[07:50] <cpk1> sh?
[07:55] <Huey> is there something i can do to make kde draw the gtk apps with the same theme?
[07:56] <BeefotronX> alrighty I think I am successful and triumphant in fixing my video problem
[07:56] <Jucato> Huey: System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts
[07:56] <incorrect> where do i set kopete to sign on automatically
[07:58] <Solid_Source> incorrect: settings >> configure >> behavior
[07:58] <incorrect> thanks :) i couldn't see it for the life of me
[07:59] <Huey> Jucato: i've selected "Use my KDE style/fonts in GTK applications
[07:59] <Huey> Jucato: however, neither the style nor the font is used
[07:59] <Jucato> what app doesn't use it?
[08:00] <Huey> Jucato: gaim, beryl-settings...
[08:00] <Jucato> also, the GTK Styles and Fonts only tries to emulate it, but doesn't always succeed..
[08:04] <Huey> Jucato: it's not even close, though
[08:04] <Huey> Jucato: the white background of my kde theme becomes gray
[08:04] <Jucato> it could also be affected by Beryl?
[08:05] <Huey> there do seem to be some weird interactions
[08:05] <Huey> for instance, katapult no longer launches with Alt+Space
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd blame beryl
[08:06] <Huey> the strange thing is, i had it working before
[08:06] <Huey> kde and beryl together, i mean
[08:06] <Huey> er, katapult
[08:06] <Jucato> katapult and beryl or kde and katapult?
[08:07] <Jucato> might be a shortcut conflict between Beryl and KDE
[08:07] <Huey> all 3
[08:07] <Huey> yeah, but neither action occurs
[08:07] <Huey> and i tried disabling beryl's shortcut assiged to Alt+Space
[08:10] <nonuda_> !pastebin
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:14] <nonuda_> !apt
[08:14] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:16] <Huey> is there a way to force the font size of gnome apps like gaim to be bigger?
[08:19] <calcmandan> attempting to burn a CD in k3b. got a playlist of ogg files i want to burn, but k3b errors out right after trying to determind burn speed. Any ideas what I may be missing? The debug information is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8761/
[08:20] <asgard> hey guys i have a little qeustion why would there be 5 instances of sh running in my system tray ?
[08:22] <[StingRay] > Hi all. I found out dapper's gs is broken. I built it from source and all is fine. Is it possible that I make a deb package out of the source ?
[08:23] <[StingRay] > I know a lot of people are complaining. I could make a post and paste the link to the deb file.
[08:24] <calcmandan> attempting to burn a CD in k3b. got a playlist of ogg files i want to burn, but k3b errors out right after trying to determind burn speed. Any ideas what I may be missing? The debug information is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8761/
[08:28] <Minibnz> can any one tell me if a debian package will work on ubuntu or do i have to download the source and compile...
[08:30] <Adek05> debian package works on Ubuntu, because Ubuntu is based on Debian
[08:30] <Jucato> a generic .deb package *could* work on Kubuntu. but packages directly from the Debian repositories might mess things up
[08:33] <Minibnz> jucato: thanks... i am trying to install kannel on ubuntu... they have the option of downloading a deb package or the source... i built the ubuntu box for my previous application i was trying to compile but ran in to lots of problems... cant find a mysql header file that it needs to build..
[08:34] <Jucato> !info libmysqlclient-dev
[08:34] <ubotu> Package libmysqlclient-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:34] <Adek05> so download a deb packae and install, however it maybe needs some files and you must install them
[08:34] <Jucato> !info kannel | Minibnz
[08:34] <ubotu> minibnz: kannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: any idea how to open a Word Perfect format in OOo
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> wait found a package
[08:37] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sorry... haven't met a Word Perfect doc my entire life...
[08:37] <Minibnz> Adek05: they have stated the varuous dependancies.... for kannel i am in the process of installing these
[08:38] <Jucato> !info wpd2sxw | Admiral_Chicago
[08:38] <ubotu> admiral_chicago: wpd2sxw: WordPerfect to OpenOffice.org converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> wow, its not in edgy, maybe its the repos
[08:38] <SolidSource> Minibnz: adept should select those automatically, or have you tried adept?
[08:39] <Jucato> Minibnz: why not install kannel from Ubuntu's repositories?
[08:39] <Minibnz> solidsource: no not yet
[08:39] <Minibnz> jucato: didnt know was there
[08:39] <Jucato> :)
[08:39] <SolidSource> Minibnz: well adept will take care of dependencies
[08:39] <Minibnz> but now i do...  i willl.. :)
[08:39] <Minibnz> thanks
[08:39] <Minibnz> sweet
[08:40] <Minibnz> jucato:  how do i access the ubuntu sepository :) i am a noob to ubuntu
[08:41] <SolidSource> Jucato: do you the people.ubuntu.com repository?
[08:41] <NightBird> I hope you mean the repository
[08:41] <Jucato> SolidSource: what?
[08:41] <Minibnz> yeah
[08:41] <NightBird> I'm not aware of any ubuntu sepository..
[08:41] <Jucato> Minibnz: install kannel using Adept Manager.
[08:41] <Minibnz> cool will try...
[08:41] <Minibnz> heheheh
[08:41] <NightBird> Jucato, ah, is that how that word is spelled?
[08:41] <Minibnz> if they do i dont want them :)
[08:42] <Jucato> hm...
[08:42] <NightBird> yeah.... I think I'd pass on that as well
[08:42] <SolidSource> Jucato: people.ubuntu.com repository, not entirely sure what it has in it..but I haven't been able to connect to, just wondering if my ISP is blocking more stuff
[08:42] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppository
[08:42] <Jucato> SolidSource: people.ubuntu.com isn't a repository
[08:43] <SolidSource> Jucato: it is...thats no the entire address
[08:44] <Jucato> SolidSource: it's a sort of server for holding ubuntu devs files, packages, etc. not for public consumption
[08:44] <Jucato> (afaik)
[08:44] <SolidSource> Jucato: well the interesting thing is that adept/apt-get/aptitude all check it, yet its not in my sources.list
[08:45] <SolidSource> oh well...guess its not harming anything if it can't connect
[08:45] <Minibnz> jucato: how do i use adept ( sorry for the noob question)
[08:45] <Jucato> ah, APT might be comparing Riddell's key
[08:46] <Jucato> !adept | Minibnz
[08:46] <ubotu> Minibnz: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:46] <Jucato> Minibnz: are you familiar with apt-get?
[08:46] <Minibnz>   yeah i know apt-get
[08:46] <Jucato> Minibnz: the use apt-get to install kannel
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks for the tip Jucato
[08:47] <Minibnz> k
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> night
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <Jucato> night Admiral_Chicago! :)
[08:47] <SolidSource> Jucato: don't use any riddell keys....if that was directed at me
[08:48] <Jucato> SolidSource: you don't have any kubuntu.org repository?
[08:49] <Minibnz> i just discovered an issue... my nic has had a brain fart... everytime i reboot it's logical name changes... from eth1 to eth2 then eth2 to eth1
[08:49] <NightBird> wow
[08:49] <SolidSource> Jucato: yes
[08:49] <LL_Hakaisou> !smartphone
[08:49] <ubotu> A guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86302
[08:50] <SolidSource> Jucato: I have them, but it doesn't make sense for it to try connecting to a server not in sources.list
[08:51] <Jucato> SolidSource: apt-get is not connecting to people.ubuntu.com to check packages, most probably to verify Riddell's GPG key (which you have added)
[08:51] <aric> cant access swat after i install it
[08:53] <SolidSource> Jucato: if so, I haven't been able to connect for a while to it
[08:53] <Jucato> it errors out?
[08:53] <SolidSource> yeah
[08:54] <Jucato> when you do what? sudo apt-get update?
[08:54] <asgard> sometimes after i have used kdesu i get an error meassge saying failed to launch kdeint ?
[08:54] <SolidSource> that or aptitude, or even in adept
[08:57] <SolidSource> Jucato: it just says it times out
[09:28] (AxL/#kubuntu) osiris : local machine is linux -> RDP on a remote machine
[09:28] (osiris/#kubuntu) rdp TO a remote machine
[09:29] (osiris/#kubuntu) correct ?
[09:29] (AxL/#kubuntu) osiris : yes sorry for my english
[09:29] <osiris> what machine is tuck in windows
[09:29] <AxL> the linux one
[09:29] <AxL> I can not go back to the linux desktop !!
[09:29] <osiris> the local linux machine correct ?
[09:29] <AxL> yes
[09:30] <AxL> I just see windows
[09:30] <AxL> and linux is "behind"
[09:30] <AxL> but not able to go back
[09:30] <osiris> ok, are you familiar with the ctrl+alt+f key terminals ?
[09:30] <AxL> no
[09:30] <osiris> or have you tried alt+tab ?
[09:30] <osiris> try alt+tab
[09:31] <AxL> osiris : first one -> nothing .. Second one -> change the progs of windows one by one
[09:31] <osiris> cant you select a different windw, and kill the rdp session ?
[09:33] <AxL> osiris : ctr alt Fn gives something
[09:33] <AxL> but i have no graphical now
[09:33] <AxL> i m in console mode
[09:33] <osiris> ctrl+alt+f7
[09:34] <osiris> thats the gui
[09:34] <AxL> is thoh yeah !!
[09:34] <AxL> yes thanks
[09:34] <osiris> so drop to a terminal, log in and kill the rdp session
[09:35] <AxL> osiris there is nothing to kill ... The aim for me was to switch from windows remote to local linux
[09:35] <shampoonator> waah i cant manage it to get this ... userlist an kdm
[09:35] <osiris> well, glad i could help i guess
[09:35] <shampoonator> i want this userlist :(
[09:36] <sjkwizard> Hi...anyone know how i can use pinnacle pctv in linux?
[09:37] <AxL> osiris -> well .. in fact I still have the prob ...
[09:37] <AxL> F2 give me the console ...
[09:37] <shampoonator> but first of all another important question what group must i be in to be able to automount usb devices?
[09:38] <AxL> But F7 I go back to windows and not the linux destop :\
[09:38] <osiris> then go to the console , and killall the app that is running windows
[09:39] <AxL> osiris -> do you think this is the only solution ? I d like to easly swich between windows and linux ...
[09:39] <AxL> I can not spend my time killing  things like thjis
[09:40] <osiris> well, without actually seeing your problem im having a hard time finding a solution
[09:40] <osiris> i cant tell if your app is screwed upp, or just fullscreen and you cant get out of it
[09:40] <AxL> osiris : well don't you know RDP ?
[09:40] <osiris> ive never used it
[09:41] <AxL> ok ...
[09:41] <osiris> always used vnc for remote admin stuff
[09:41] <AxL> Not easy to answer so ...
[09:41] <shampoonator> well...
[09:41] <osiris> but rdp aint any different than any other protocol
[09:41] <AxL> osiris : yes ...
[09:42] <AxL> osiris : but full screen make a little toolbar appear on the top
[09:42] <osiris> if its your X session that is connected to windows, try a ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[09:42] <AxL> But it hides the top ...
[09:42] <AxL> So I make it disappears .. but I can not make it appear again ...
[09:44] <osiris> so the window your rdp session draws is bigger than your desktop resolution ?
[09:45] <AxL> osiris : now same size why ?
[09:45] <AxL> ctrl alt back space works of course but kill all
[09:45] <osiris> im just trying to get a grip on what exactly the issue is
[09:45] <AxL> ok
[09:46] <AxL> osiris : Yu know what I mean by "little tool bar at the top" ?
[09:46] <osiris> i think so
[09:46] <osiris> like i said.  dont actually use rdp
[09:47] <AxL> ok
[09:47] <firecrotch> !7zip
[09:47] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:47] <AxL> Thanks for youir help anyway ...
[09:47] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[09:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:48] <osiris> anyone here have polycom phones ?
[09:48] <AxL> no
[09:48] <AxL> #linux
[09:51] <firecrotch> Okay, I can't find any program that will let me do anything with .7z archives
[09:54] <firecrotch> Oh sure, now p7zip works, after I ***** on IRC
[09:57] <AxL> osiris : maybe you can help me on my 2nd problem : I need to find a soft to decrease the speed of my ventirad
[09:57] <AxL> motherboard
[10:13] <osiris> anyone using polycom phones, i just registed #polycom
[10:15] <xushi> Is there a language bar in kubuntu similar to that in windows, where i could switch from one language to another for writing ?
[10:15] <compilerwriter> osiris I haven't used them yet.  I have however used ekiga when I couldn't get skype to play nicely.
[10:15] <osiris> well, voip in general will be welcome
[10:16] <compilerwriter> osiris yes voip is a beautiful thing.
[10:17] <osiris> cant help it. i work for a voip company
[10:17] <compilerwriter> who do you work for osiris.
[10:17] <osiris> http://bbtelsys.com
[10:17] <compilerwriter> I have a voip adapter for a second line here at home.
[10:19] <xushi> i think  i found one in kdevelop , but its gray in the app installer menu and i can't install =/
[10:19] <compilerwriter> osiris do you support facsimile transmission?
[10:19] <osiris> it works depending on the quality of your connection and the fax machine
[10:19] <arunkale> Hey, people. I've successfully installed Edgy on my PC. The thing is, I need to make some changes to xorg.conf and I tried doing 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf', and I get an error saying 'cannot connect to x server :0.0' -- what should I do about this?
[10:20] <osiris> fax aint prommiesed in the voip world
[10:20] <osiris> yer converting low speed data, to high speed, and back again
[10:21] <compilerwriter> My provider supports it, although for another $7.99 a month, and vonage supports it.
[10:21] <osiris> but vonage still has problems with it
[10:22] <compilerwriter> I have never used vonages service so I wouldn't know about it.
[10:22] <osiris> it depends on your machine
[10:22] <osiris> AND your connection
[10:22] <osiris> jitter and packet loss will kill you
[10:23] <compilerwriter> I have and hp all-in-one and adsl.
[10:23] <compilerwriter> I have had no problems receiving, but sometimes sending is a bitch.
[10:23] <osiris> any all in one is a problem
[10:23] <osiris> it does lots of things kinda ok
[10:24] <compilerwriter> I guess lightyear has found a way to support it pretty well.
[10:25] <compilerwriter> I like your wifi phone offer I would love to have about 4 of those handsets with my curren service.  That way I would not have to backfeed my house through a jack.
[10:26] <osiris> they are unlocked devices, so they can be used with other services
[10:27] <compilerwriter> That is good to know.
[10:27] <osiris> the wifi phones that is
[10:27] <compilerwriter> I am guessing that they would work in any hotspot they had access to correct?
[10:27] <osiris> correct
[10:28] <compilerwriter> Therefore I could take one with me to a hotel and it would be as if i were at home.
[10:28] <jack_deltrino> does anyone use rdesktop around here? if so, why does (from terminal): rdesktop -u Administrator -p mypassword 10.0.30.31 not work? terminal services server is running on the machine
[10:28] <osiris> correct
[10:28] <jack_deltrino> the password doesn't transfer over into the password box, but the user string does transfer over to the user box
[10:29] <compilerwriter> Do you have any cellular/wifi hybrids?
[10:29] <compilerwriter> That would truly be the best of both worlds.
[10:29] <osiris> no, the new ones will have wiMax, but no smart device yet
[10:30] <Magic-Fx> Hey does anyone know any networking tools i could install that has a windows equivilant to send instant messages between the LAN?
[10:30] <compilerwriter> ok.  I would love a handset that would only go cellular when it needed to.
[10:31] <compilerwriter> Magic-FX are you talking about messages between machines or chat type things?
[10:31] <compilerwriter> Osiris:  I could then have the voip forwarded to the cell and give everyone the same number.
[10:32] <compilerwriter> Does your service have Find me follow me?
[10:32] <osiris> yes.  there is call forward no answer, and call forward busy
[10:32] <jack_deltrino> does anyone know?
[10:33] <compilerwriter> How many forward numbers in the chain?
[10:33] <compilerwriter> With my current provider I can do a daisy chain of like five numbers and then finally to voice mail.
[10:34] <compilerwriter> soryy jack_deltrino:  I can't help you.
[10:34] <compilerwriter> s/soryy/sorry
[10:35] <compilerwriter> osiris: Do you know how to approximate QoS on a DI-524 by chance.  I have not figured out a way to do it, but I have been told by several they think it can be don.
[10:35] <osiris> nothing quite like that now
[10:36] <compilerwriter> s/don/done
[10:36] <osiris> how to guess the values, or how to set it up
[10:36] <compilerwriter> How to set it up.
[10:37] <osiris> nope.  dont know how to do that one
[10:37] <osiris> that looks like a d-link model number
[10:38] <compilerwriter> That would be correct sir.  An older one at that. I may just have to break down and replace a perfectly good router.
[10:38] <osiris> build a smoothwall
[10:41] <Magic-Fx> compilerwriter: im talking about a chat type thing / being able to send messages to the other 2 computers on my LAN without having to use the internet.
[10:42] <Magic-Fx> compilerwriter: sorry, btw, i was afk.
[10:43] <compilerwriter> Magic-Fx: I think there is that ability in say gaim, but I am not for certain if it is commercial or not.
[10:44] <Magic-Fx> compilerwriter: ok thanks.
[10:44] <arunkale> Hey guys.. I've installed Edgy properly, but now I seem to be having some weird problems.. anyone want to help me out?
[10:44] <xushi> If i install kubuntu next to an xp installation, will it automatically add xp to grub ?
[10:44] <Chaffinch> yes
[10:44] <arunkale> xushi: yes
[10:45] <xushi> excellent
[10:45] <xushi> very impressed
[10:45] <arunkale> If I try to change my network settings from System settings > network settings.. if I click on the administrator mode button, i get the red border but it doesn't ask me for a password for some reason
[10:46] <arunkale> and i cant edit anything
[10:47] <arunkale> anyone?
[10:48] <jack_deltrino> arunkale: it could possibly be a problem with how pam is configured on your machine. if it's not an unusual setup, then i'm not really, sure, but that's the first thing i'm usually wary of
[10:48] <arunkale> pam?
[10:48] <jack_deltrino> arunkale: yes, pluggable authentication modules
[10:50] <arunkale> How do I get past that? Also, I entered the appropriate refresh rates and resolutions for my monitor using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but i can't still can't go above 1024x768. I have a viewsonic 19" widescreen monitor, and an nvidia geforce video card. Also kubuntu detects my monitor and video card as 'generic monitor' and 'generic video card'
[10:51] <arunkale> any ideas?
[10:53] <arunkale> i have an AMD62 X2 dual core processor, if that helps
[10:53] <arunkale> I'm running 32-bit Kubuntu
[10:54] <compilerwriter> Magic-Fx: did gaim help or am I remembering a different messaging program.
[10:56] <kgx0> does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it: at work, when i finish using vim, i get returned to the console, but at home, it returns me to the console but i can still see the contents on the file i was editting in vim
[10:56] <kgx0> how can i fix this?
[10:58] <jack_deltrino> kgx0: it's probably a vimrc configuration option that clears the screen upon termination of vim
[10:58] <arunkale> any ideas, jack?
[10:59] <kgx0> jack_deltrino: but the .vimrc contents are the same for both of them
[10:59] <jack_deltrino> hm, weird. i'm not sure then. are the shells the same?
[11:00] <jack_deltrino> i totally know what you're talking about, so if you end up finding a solution i'd be interested
[11:00] <jack_deltrino> it usually happens when i run screen on a bsd machine
[11:06] <arunkale> I entered the appropriate refresh rates and resolutions for my monitor using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but i can't still can't go above 1024x768. I have a viewsonic 19" widescreen monitor, and an nvidia geforce video card. Also kubuntu detects my monitor and video card as 'generic monitor' and 'generic video card'
[11:06] <dergringo> /join #dojo
[11:12] <compilerwriter> Anyone know how to get an x-session going from my box when I connect from say a winblows laptop.
[11:17] <jack_deltrino> compilerwriter: xming
[11:18] <jack_deltrino> compilerwriter: and win(^dows) got really old ten years ago
[11:19] <stuart_> Ubuntu says my disk is 99% full but that's impossible?
[11:21] <stuart_> how do u check disk (space) usage on ubuntu?
[11:21] <stuart_> anybody?
[11:21] <jake_> guys please help my adept says""You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." any command please?
[11:21] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: df -h in terminal
[11:22] <stuart_> thanks jack_deltrino
[11:22] <jake_> please help
[11:23] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: it thinks the whole partition (17Gb) is being used, but I can't understand how
[11:23] <jack_deltrino> jake_: ps ax | grep adept | awk '{ print $1; }' | while read pid; do kill -9 "$pid"; done       if that doesn't do it replace adept with apt
[11:23] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: *shrugs* i dunno, maybe it is
[11:23] <jake_> k ill try
[11:24] <jack_deltrino> i'm guessing my question isn't going to be answered :(
[11:24] <Jucato> !adeptfix | jake_
[11:24] <ubotu> jake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:25] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: well it reports 16 out of 17Gb used on /dev/hda2  but apart from installing some stuff via synaptic there is very little data on the computer (I even deleted the examples folder in my home directory coz it complaining)
[11:25] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: how to find out where/what the bulk of this stuff is? Could it be a rogue beagle log or something?
[11:26] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: where do you suspect it might be?
[11:27] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: i'd go through an du -skh /bin   -> replacing /bin with /etc then /home then /usr then /var, etc.
[11:27] <jake_> ubotu: ive try your command it says,
[11:27] <jake_> dpkg: error processing kdebase-data (--configure):
[11:27] <jake_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:27] <jake_>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[11:27] <jake_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:27] <jake_>  kdebase-data
[11:27] <jack_deltrino> .......
[11:27] <jack_deltrino> don't friggin' paste in here
[11:27] <Jucato> !pastebin | jake_
[11:27] <ubotu> jake_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:28] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: no idea. I just can't understand where it came from (or where it might be)
[11:28] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ok
[11:28] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: well try what i said, because i don't know what's going on either
[11:28] <_4strO> stuart_: open konqueror
[11:29] <stuart_> this is ubuntu -- i dont have konqueror - just that stupid nautilus, but let me run the commands
[11:29] <_4strO> :/
[11:29] <jack_deltrino> i bet you it's being hogged up by /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:30] <jack_deltrino> that's why i rarely mention non-commandline stuff because that alleviates such situations
[11:31] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: wow home is 14Gb!!! Let me look in nautilus
[11:32] <jack_deltrino> very little data on the computer eh...?
[11:32] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: can't see anything other than a few small files
[11:33] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: not that is displayed via the file manager :)
[11:33] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: the file manager is merely a frontend to the underlying system. if you want to learn it well, learn the command line
[11:34] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ok, so what now?
[11:35] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: so root around your home directory deleting stuff you don't need?
[11:35] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: cd /home
[11:36] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: was that a question...?
[11:36] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: no, wrong window sorry
[11:36] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: you know it's something in your home directory so make sure you don't have any large HD videos laying around
[11:37] <smile> hi every body !! :-)
[11:37] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: command for going up 1 directory level?
[11:38] <smile> someone knows how to use Apache ??
[11:38] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: no it's not that simple. something funny going on
[11:38] <jack_deltrino> yeah right
[11:38] <jack_deltrino> linux doesn't hide crap from you
[11:39] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: so how do i go up a directory in terminal -- i thought it would be cd..
[11:39] <smile> jack_deltrino hi
[11:39] <jack_deltrino> cd ..
[11:39] <smile> nooooo " cd .." with spaces
[11:39] <stuart_> aaah thanks
[11:40] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: any command line tool you need to understand more fully - man <program name> so man cd or man ls
[11:40] <smile> welcome
[11:40] <rada> hi, I tried to install firefox2. it was ok but connecting and nothing else
 where did u find firefox2 ?
[11:42] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ok. The only non-empty directory in /home is logs
[11:42] <rada> mozilla.org
[11:42] <rada> smile: firefox-2.0.0.2.tar.gz
[11:43] <smile> did firefox 1.2 works fine ?
[11:43] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: du -skh /home/logs then
[11:43] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: this isn't very difficult, search and destroy
[11:43] <smile> rada: did firefox 1.2 works fine ?
[11:43] <rada> smile: I didn't try
[11:43] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: doing du -skh whilst in the logs directory ==> 168k
[11:43] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: what am i missing...
[11:44] <smile> u were working with which browser ?
[11:44] <jack_deltrino> i dunno, it's kind of hard to guess though
[11:44] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: what about hidden files. I assume linux has these 2?
[11:44] <rada> smile I installed kubuntu a while ago :-)
[11:44] <rada> smile: I just like ff from win
[11:44] <compilerwriter> Stuart_ : linux has a blue million hidden files
[11:44] <jack_deltrino> yeah ls -Alh directory
[11:45] <smile> rada : :-) me too ..
[11:45] <smile> rada: so u can't open internet now ?
[11:45] <rada> smile I am on the net from kubuntu :-)
[11:46] <rada> smile konqueror works fine but ff ;-)
[11:46] <smile> rada: i mean u can open a http page ?
[11:46] <smile> ok ok
[11:46] <rada> smile ff finished with timed out
[11:46] <smile> look u can use " sudo apt-get install firefox "
[11:47] <smile> rada: but u will get firefore1.2 not 2.0
[11:47] <rada> hm
 sorry .. 1.5 not 1.2 :-) .. it works great
[11:48] <rada> smile. I was given https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:48] <rada> I followed but timed out
[11:48] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ls -Alh in the home directory gives a long list mostly in 4.0k and the like. Some (few) are things like 31 or 376 ie. without units. Is this 31 k or..?
[11:49] <smile> i didnt try firefox 2.0 so i can't say wussup .. but firefox 1.5 is great lol
[11:50] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: there's references to some things i've uninstalled with synaptic eg. azureus
[11:50] <rada> smile yes I know I was using it ...
[11:50] <rada> smile. and mic doesn't work for me, could you help me?
 explain more ...
[11:51] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: so still no sign of the missing millions
[11:52] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: okay, well think of it from my perspective. i don't have access to your machine and all you've given me so far is, "i don't know where it's coming from." how would i know where to look?
[11:52] <rada> smile so I can't skype. the same comp. in win mic works, in kubuntu no. should I set up somewhere something?
[11:52] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: yeah i know. Which continent are u on lol?
 maybe it's muted in " Kmix" ... check it and tell me
[11:53] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: lulz what does that matter?
[11:53] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: maybe i need a system administrator lol
[11:53] <rada> smile. I have no idea what kmix is :-) but it was muted somewhere. it didn't help though
[11:54] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: if you were trolling me the whole time, i don't know what to say, but if you weren't, i'd suggest you read up on bash and the wonders of the command line
[11:54] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: nah i guess I'll google it tomorrow just to know what's happening.... or what's the comman d to delete everything (bar essential system files) from a directory?
[11:54] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: bash = command line?
 kmix is the sound control consol .. just type the command "kmix" in konsol
[11:54] <jean-benoit> hello
[11:55] <jean-benoit> any french here?
[11:55] <jack_deltrino> stuart_: no, you really need to look stuff up online
[11:55] <smile> jean-benoit : je suis francai :-)
[11:55] <jean-benoit> cool
[11:55] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ok, thanks for the help
[11:55] <jean-benoit> besoin d'aide pour kubuntu
[11:55] <logan1> heres a weird one, Im on edgy and I just noticed there is no swap partition when I do df -Th
[11:56] <jean-benoit> c possible?
[11:56] <jack_deltrino> logan1: what does top say
[11:56] <jack_deltrino> jean-benoit: no french
[11:56] <compilerwriter> !fr | jean-benoit
[11:56] <ubotu> jean-benoit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:56] <smile> jean-benoit : ok .. biensur .. c Linux :-)
[11:56] <stuart_> jack_deltrino: ciao
[11:56] <jean-benoit> je me suis mis a linux depuis 1 semaine
[11:57] <rada> smile what's input-capture?
[11:57] <jean-benoit> franchement je revis
[11:57] <smile> jean : bienvenue :-)
[11:57] <jean-benoit> a plante pas c'est clair net et prcis
[11:57] <logan1> jack_deltrino: ?? what has a process got to do with a missing partition
[11:57] <compilerwriter> !fr | smile
[11:57] <ubotu> smile: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:57] <jean-benoit> mais bon je galre car je suis un peu drout
[11:58] <jean-benoit> merci!!
[11:58] <clinkz> hello
 input capture is used to get the sound from another device like TV or VHS
[11:58] <clinkz> does any1 here speak german?
[11:58] <smile> jean-benoit : tu peu demander l'aide ici .. c une famille
[11:59] <rada> smile hm not my case then. yes it was muted. first time I tried. but it's still not working
[11:59] <logan1> hmm why is kubuntu not mounting swap, used to work fine in daper
 chech the mic ... make it switshed
[12:00] <arunkale> I can't access the internet using Edgy for some reason (I'm on Windows right now). I entered all my network settings correctly, but  it does not store the ip address in the 'route' tab
[12:00] <arunkale> any ideas?
[12:00] <rada> smile swtiched?
[12:00] <smile> arunkale: u use wich modem ?
[12:01] <jack_deltrino> logan1: i don't know if the other guy was a troll, but if you are as well, screw off. if you aren't, my apologies, i'm a bit grumpy because sometimes people just don't help me help them and top shows you swap being used
[12:01] <arunkale> smile: i'm connecting through LAN
[12:01] <arunkale> I've entered the rest of my settings correctly, but for some reason it just wont store the IP address under the 'route' tab
[12:01] <logan1> jack_deltrino: top shows the same as free, nothing
[12:01] <smile> rada : try it in a recorder program
[12:01] <arunkale> it stores everything else
[12:02] <smile> arunkale : so check the administartor setting
[12:02] <logan1> jack_deltrino:  df -Th shows not /swap  partition so guess what top and free show, yep nothing
[12:02] <logan1> no*
[12:02] <rada> smile which one?
[12:03] <smile> rada: anyone
[12:03] <jack_deltrino> logan1: did you try mkswap /dev/<whatever partition is setup as swap> && swapon /dev/<whatever partition is setup as swap>?
[12:03] <arunkale> smile: I did
[12:03] <arunkale> It's just not taking the value
[12:03] <logan1> jack_deltrino: not yet, Im trying to figure out why edgy decided to delete swap in the update
[12:04] <rada> smile: I am not linux user
[12:04] <arunkale> It's weird because I've used the exact same settings on another PC with edgy, and it works
[12:04] <jack_deltrino> rada: ah, that makes sense why you are on this channel then
[12:04] <rada> smile: but it doesn't work with skype echo123
[12:04] <rada> jack_deltrino: :-)
[12:05] <Woosta> Why does testing contain a version of mjpegtools that relies on versions of other packages that *aren't* in testing ?!?
 use "Krec"
[12:05] <rada> jack_deltrino: let's put it this way . I am not literate Xwindow linux user
[12:06] <jack_deltrino> rada: so you're a master of the CLI?
[12:06] <logan1> jack_deltrino: weird that doesnt work either
[12:07] <rada> jack_deltrino: CLI is comman line interface? not master but more experienced than Xwindow user
 i think that Skype hav this problem .. i had the same problem with Mandriva
[12:07] <rada> smile: krec not installed
[12:08] <jack_deltrino> logan1: then i'm out of ideas, your system must be supremely fubar'd
[12:08] <jack_deltrino> logan1: that's like init not running
[12:08] <jack_deltrino> nay, like mke2fs not working
[12:09] <logan1> jack_wyt: everything runs fine, just no swap
[12:10] <logan1> jack_wyt: ok swap is now working
[12:10] <ubuntu> hello
[12:18] <arunkale> How do I get Kubuntu to support 1440x900
[12:19] <arunkale> anyone?
[12:19] <tackat> 915resolution?
[12:20] <_4strO> arunkale: put it in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[12:21] <arunkale> _4stro: I did that, I can't change it from System Settings though.. the maximum I am getting is 1024x768
[12:21] <arunkale> I have a widescreen monitor and things are looking a bit funny
[12:21] <arunkale> any ideas how i can get that resolution?
[12:22] <arunkale> if i install the nvidia driver, will the resolution be available then?
[12:22] <_4strO> dont know
[12:23] <arunkale> ok, thanks
[12:25] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:25] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me setup a samba share?
[12:26] <XVampireX> !samba
[12:26] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:27] <arunkale> !resolution
[12:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:32] <clau85> how can I increase the ripping speed of kaudiocreator?
[12:33] <busfahrer> Hi, I want to get all the KDE apps that kubuntu ships, is "apt-get install kde" a good idea to do that? (266 newly installed apparently)
[12:33] <busfahrer> (I am already using Kubuntu, not Ubuntu)
[12:35] <ForgeAus> um kubuntu-desktop not kde
[12:35] <ForgeAus> (its another metapackage with everything? that kubuntu comes with)
[12:36] <busfahrer> See, I already have that package because I use kubuntu. But recently I found out that I didnt have any games, so I did "apt-get installed kdegames". Now I wonder what other package collections I am missing out.
[12:37] <ForgeAus> theres a few more, kde-multimedia kde-toys
[12:37] <ForgeAus> just check through the kde-* packages for metapackages
[12:46] <tuco> Morning all.
[12:50] <clau85> how can I increase the ripping speed of kaudiocreator?
[12:54] <SoulChild> hey guys,... i installed kde-core using the alternative CD but i can't see any desktop icons, is there a package that i need ??
[12:55] <tuco> Alternative CD? Do you mean the Live CD?
[12:57] <Trollinator> *kotz*
[12:57] <SoulChild> tuco: no i installed a minimal text based system
[12:58] <SoulChild> whats the name of kde's package programm like synaptics in gnome
[12:58] <tuco> Man I wish I could help you. You don't see any icons you said?
[12:58] <SoulChild> tuco yes
[12:58] <arunkale> !resolution
[12:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:59] <SoulChild> tuco i know that there mus be a package that activates the desktop.... must be a libkde...
[12:59] <tuco> hmmmm
[01:00] <tuco> I am trying to understand the real issue here. Still fresh to Linux so you will excuse me if I can't find the right answer.
[01:00] <SoulChild> tuco ... okay ,... i lll solve it by myself, thanks vor caring ;)
[01:01] <Jucato> SoulChild: right-click on the desktop -> COnfigure Desktop -> Behavior -> [ ]  Show icons on desktop?
[01:01] <SoulChild> Jucato: i ll try thank
[01:01] <tuco> Well Jucato the saviour is here :-)
[01:01] <Jucato> O.o
[01:01] <tuco> Me I would like to install Beryl...but have no idea how to do it?
[01:02] <SoulChild> tuco ,.... it s easy ,... just ollow the guide on www.beryl-project.org
[01:02] <Jucato> tuco: the /topic in #ubuntu-effects has links to useful guides
[01:02] <SoulChild> Jucato: it works thanks
[01:03] <tuco> my other thing is: I have a laptop running a resol of 1280x800, and an external 19inch screen running at 1280x1024. I want to have the external screen to be the main one but can't get the right reso in Linux.
[01:03] <Jucato> SoulChild: as for a GUI package manager (like Synaptic), you have a choice of adept (the one that comes with Kubuntu) or kpackage
[01:03] <SoulChild> Jucato: damn ,... thanks ,..thats all i need to know ...
[01:08] <vignesh> Hi. I get the following error after running alsaconf
[01:08] <vignesh> amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument
[01:08] <vignesh> any idea what it is ?
[01:08] <vignesh> also /usr/sbin/alsactl: get_control:209: Cannot read control info '2,0,0,Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[01:10] <vignesh> anyone ?
[01:13] <smile> hi every body
[01:16] <arunkale> !fonts
[01:16] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:17] <arunkale> !truetype
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <smile> my keybord can't type the letter "n" .. i use copy & past ... it works fine like root and in Windows !!
[01:18] <stuart_> can someon please help with rmdir and rm?
 type in consol "man rm"
[01:19] <Jucato> !tab | smile
[01:19] <ubotu> smile: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:20] <stuart_> smile: yeah I did, might as well nbe russian
[01:20] <Jucato> smile: you can check your keyboard layout in System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
[01:21] <stuart_> smile: i have a .wine directory which is invisible via dir, but listed under du
[01:21] <stuart_> smile: i need to nuke it, but don't no what directory i should be in to do so
[01:21] <smile> Jucato: i did .. everything is OK !! :-(
[01:22] <stuart_> smile: is the command just rm -r .wine
[01:23] <stuart_> smile: from the directory level immediately above
[01:23] <smile> stuart_: sorry i didnt understand what u wanna do !!
[01:24] <smile> Jucato: any help plz !
[01:25] <Jucato> smile: it's the ~/.wine directory right?
[01:25] <smile> Jucato: ?? what u mean ??
[01:25] <stuart_> smile: i found 14Gb in .wine via some du command. I didn't even no the directory existed becuase it isn't displayed via dir. Now I wanna delete it. I think I just go to my home directory (from which I can do a cd .wine) and type rmdir -r .wine
[01:25] <Jucato> er sorry
[01:26] <stuart_> smile: PS: uninstalling wine left this directory which is taking up space for no apparent reason (nothing ever installed under wine)
[01:27] <stuart_> smile: what do u say Can i push the button?
[01:27] <Jucato> stuart_: why not delete it in Konqueror?
[01:27] <smile> stuart_: u can display hidden file in kde
[01:27] <stuart_> I have only nautilus but i guess there must be an option there too...
[01:27] <smile> Jucato: .wine is a hidden directory
[01:28] <smile> Jucato: yah
[01:28] <Jucato> stuart_: nautilus? you're on Ubuntu?
[01:28] <Jucato> smile: Nautilus and Konqueror can show hidden directories
[01:28] <stuart_> smile: yes
[01:29] <Jucato> stuart_: not sure in Nautilus, but I think you can right-click on an empty space in Nautilus and select "Show hidden files"
[01:29] <Jucato>  or maybe in the View menu
[01:29] <Jucato> in Konqueror it would be in View menu
[01:29] <stuart_> smile: it's in preferences. So I'll try to delete it
[01:30] <compilerwriter> Can somebody show me the ropes with xming.  I am having trouble getting the hang of thing.
[01:31] <smile> stuart_: in konqueror : view -> view hidden files
[01:32] <Jucato> smile: he said he's using Nautilus...
[01:32] <stuart_> smile: it worked
[01:32] <smile> stuart_: Welcome :-)
[01:33] <stuart_> smile: is it safe to leave the hidden files "in view" or will the system let me delete crucial files as a normal user thru Nautilus or Konq?
[01:33] <sylverfox> hi
[01:33] <sylverfox> i would have a question
[01:33] <orient2000> Hi! I have some files I need to rename in konsole 0001_name.mp3 to 0099_name.mp3. I need to strop them to name.mp3 anybody know the commend?
[01:33] <sylverfox> what audio format you recommand
[01:33] <sylverfox> ?
[01:33] <stuart_> smile: now I have space to install konqueror
[01:34] <stuart_> smile: and maybe opera will decide to not crash
[01:34] <smile> stuart_: hidden files are used by programms .. so u should better leave them :-)
[01:34] <stuart_> smile: ok, thanks
[01:34] <smile> stuart_: welcome :-)
[01:34] <compilerwriter> Jucato: know anything about xming
[01:35] <Jucato> compilerwriter: sorry, nope
[01:39] <orient2000> Hi! I have some files I need to rename in konsole 0001_name.mp3 to 0099_name.mp3. I need to strop them to name.mp3 anybody know the commend?
[01:39] <arunkale> should i install automatix?
[01:40] <thomax> man rename
[01:40] <thomax> !rename
[01:40] <compilerwriter> morning tuco
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <orient2000> !mv
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <_6StringKng_> anyone have experience installing the xfire plugin for Gaim?
[01:43] <thomax> https://sourceforge.net/projects/gfire/
[01:48] <laurent_> hi, I'm trying to get a windows 2K to connect to this machine via a crossover cable
[01:48] <laurent_> doesn't seem to work so far
[01:48] <laurent_> 've been googling it for a while but no luck
[01:49] <_6StringKng_> i need libssl.pc and libssl.pc, where would I get them?
[01:49] <_6StringKng_> openssl.pc, lol
[01:50] <compilerwriter> !xming
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: libssl-dev
[01:50] <Naamuis>  tell me how can i change to quakenet
[01:51] <Jucato> Naamuis: you don't have to change. you can be connected to both quakenet and freenode servers at the same time. if you're on Konversation, File -> Server list _> New
[01:53] <laurent__> 'lo
[01:53] <Naamuis> 'lo
[01:53] <laurent__> I try to connect a windows 2K machine to this Kubuntu system via a second network card using a crossover cable
[01:53] <laurent__> doesn't work :(
[01:54] <laurent__> I've been googling it for a while but no success
[01:55] <laurent__> all the #kubuntu channels are inter-connected?
[01:55] <arunkale> !flash
[01:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:55] <laurent__> !networking
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <laurent__> !crossover
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Jucato> !botabuse | laurent__
[01:56] <ubotu> laurent__: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:58] <laurent_> comon, I'm not trying to abuse anything, just trying to migrate from Windows to Linux ...
[01:59] <Jucato> laurent_: just don't flood the channel with bot factoids. if you're not sure what the trigger is, please PM ubotu
[01:59] <laurent_> k will do
[01:59] <Schleppfux> hi
[02:00] <Naamuis> just tell me the simple way to connect quakenet
[02:01] <Jucato> Naamuis: File -> Quick Connect
[02:02] <laurent_> Naamuis: www.quakenet.org
[02:02] <laurent_> all info there
[02:11] <_Johny> Hi everyone, I've got a question - What's the default font used by KDE 3.5.6 that come with Kubuntu?
[02:12] <Jucato> San Serif
[02:29] <Schleppfux> re
[02:29] <MarkCh> !hi
[02:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:32] <_Johny> How to reset all the kubuntu appearance settings to default values?
[02:33] <MarkCh> _Johny: reinstall kubuntu-*
[02:34] <MarkCh> packages
[02:36] <ForgeAus> I fixed my XP finally
[02:36] <ForgeAus> dunno how
[02:36] <ForgeAus> it just... fixed
[02:37] <ForgeAus> now I can put interix in it
[02:37] <ForgeAus> ... maybe
[02:39] <cyt> I just tried Kubuntu, and it works so great. I can't wait to see the 7.04 release :)
[02:39] <ForgeAus> hehe yeah I love kubuntu...
[02:40] <MarkCh> heh, i liked kubuntu once. until i saw the light that is xfce.
[02:40] <MarkCh> then kde never looked the same again. or at least it looked bloaty.
[02:41] <Jucato> you're in the wrong channel :P
[02:41] <chavo> he said bloat huh-huh
[02:41] <MarkCh> !hi
[02:41] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:41] <MarkCh> oh... sorry, thought this was ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:42] <cyt> MarkCh: Xfce 4.4.0 is also great, but at this channel I love Kubuntu more :P
[02:42] <fuel> xfce crashes!
[02:42] <_Johny> MarkCh: Kubuntu packages, what do you mean?
[02:43] <MarkCh> _Johny: kubuntu-default-settings
[02:43] <Jucato> _Johny: try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings
[02:43] <chavo> the default settings stuff won't get recopied to a user profile though
[02:44] <MarkCh> chavo: would purge help?
[02:44] <fuel> why does adept allow so much stuff be to cached... ? today i cleaned up around 800MB of deb packages
[02:44] <Jucato> chavo: last time I did that, it restored most of the defaults.. like kicker...
[02:44] <Jucato> fuel: it's an APT feature, not just for Adept
[02:44] <Jucato> fuel: the cache is auto cleaned daily
[02:44] <chavo> you can change it too
[02:44] <fuel> also i dont know whether this is a bug....but i deleted the partial directory.....adept goes wrong
[02:45] <Jucato> don't delete it
[02:45] <Jucato> sudo apt-get clean
[02:45] <fuel> Jucato: i dont know...... it did not get cleaned....
[02:45] <fuel> oh! ok ok
[02:45] <chavo> _Johny, did you run system settings with sudo at any time?
[02:45] <Jucato> don't delete folders owned by root
[02:45] <fuel> Jucato: dont worry i am not a newbie
[02:49] <compilerwriter> anyone on that can help me sort out my difficulties with xming?
[02:53] <renato_> x
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> Coffee!
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i want some too...blah
[02:55] <BluesKaj> just getting my self in gear ...need some startup fuel
[02:55] <chavo> I gotta couple sips of mine left
[02:55] <chavo> gone now
[02:56] <BluesKaj> hey gents, a small but annoying prob , I my songlist in an album won't list in the proper order after renaming the titles ...any suggestions
[02:57] <BluesKaj> they are all numbered etc
[02:58] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: songlist in what? m3u or something else?
[02:58] <jose__> alguien que me pase el canal espaol
[02:58] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:00] <BluesKaj> Lynoure, in an album a friend dcc'd me ...i looked up the song order on the net and renamed the songs from track1 , 2, etc to with the actaul song titles , but they won't list in the right oreder
[03:01] <BluesKaj> err actual , order
[03:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Last I checked, kubuntu wasn't a music app.
[03:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Are you in amarok or what?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> no the files are in a folder on my desktop
[03:01] <jhutchins> F5?
[03:02] <jhutchins> konq then.
[03:02] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:02] <MarkCh> Blueskaj: they got autosorted probably.
[03:02] <MarkCh> when you play them on an actual player theyll be sorted fine again.
[03:02] <MarkCh> i guess...
[03:03] <BluesKaj> I normally don't store music files in a player songlist
[03:03] <Bonaldo2000> anyone know what it might mean if the boot process fails saying "USB disconnect" a couple of times? Mine has done that a few times lately...
[03:03] <MarkCh> btw. its a bad idea to change music filenames. you rather change their id3 tag titles instead...
[03:03] <MarkCh> since thats what music players see anyway
[03:04] <jhutchins> MarkCh: Actually, what the music players see are the filenames, just like any other app.  They read the id3 tags from the files and display that info.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> didn't have any id tags ...they were listed as track 1, 2 ,3 etc
[03:05] <BluesKaj> no songtitles
[03:05] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I'm thinking that the folder was cached, and you may need to reload konq.  What does ls tell you?
[03:05] <MarkCh> right. i mean thats what most music players display. the title of the songs, not the file names
[03:05] <BluesKaj> tried that
[03:06] <BluesKaj> ok , maybe amarok can make some sense of it
[03:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Not sure which you tried, but what version are you on?  3.5.6?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> amarok put them in order in it's playlist
[03:09] <BluesKaj> yeah 3.5.6
[03:09] <mek_> is there a base config command line tool existing? like a menue, to change the locales, the timezone, ... (like what you are able to set up in the alternate installer, but on a running system)
[03:10] <Jucato> System Settings ?
[03:12] <mek_> Jucato: like the settings you make in the alternate installer
[03:23] <xushi> hmm, i can't find /etc/init.d/samba in kubuntu.. Is itnamed anything else ?
[03:24] <Jucato> did you install "samba"?
[03:24] <xushi> well yes
[03:24] <ForgeAus> Jucato, guess what? I got my windows back!
[03:24] <ForgeAus> so now I can switch between it and kubuntu :)
[03:24] <Jucato> ForgeAus: should I be happy? hehe j/k
[03:24] <xushi> checking..
[03:25] <ForgeAus> well having it working is better than not... right?
[03:25] <xushi> yep, got samba installed, configured, and running
[03:26] <xushi> but still can't find its init.d script
[03:26] <Jucato> hm... should be in /etc/init.d/
[03:27] <xushi> i see now
[03:27] <xushi> samba-common is installed
[03:27] <xushi> but not samba
[03:27] <Jucato> :D
[03:28] <LycanNyc-work> Could not find mime type
[03:28] <LycanNyc-work> application/octet-stream
[03:28] <LycanNyc-work> everytime i open an app =\
[03:28] <Dr_willis> hmm.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> try as a different user, or better yet. make a new user, and see if the same problem happens.
[03:29] <LycanNyc-work> cant waste time tryin a diff user
[03:29] <grg> hello i ve a problem
[03:29] <LycanNyc-work> this is my work pc and its becoming useless
[03:29] <grg> someone can me help please
[03:30] <Dr_willis> 2 min test... to see if its a kde setting issue or not.. if it works for a new user. you may want to try resetting some of your .kde config files back to default.
[03:30] <grg> i am new on linux and i cant find my other HD
[03:30] <Dr_willis> grg,  and the issue is?
[03:30] <grg> :/
[03:30] <Dr_willis> and whats on the other hd?
[03:30] <grg> i ve 2 hard disk
[03:31] <LycanNyc-work> oh dr0ne
[03:31] <LycanNyc-work> Dr_willis,
[03:31] <grg> but on kubuntu i cant find my archives
[03:31] <LycanNyc-work> i can just try yo reset config files better then instead
[03:31] <Dr_willis> grg,  the other drive is a windows drive? nrfs? vfat?
[03:31] <Bonaldo2000> grg: It is not there when you enter the /media folder?
[03:31] <grg> nrfs
[03:31] <Bonaldo2000> ntfs?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> ~ntfs
[03:31] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[03:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:32] <grg> tahnks!!
[03:32] <Dr_willis> i always just manually enter the ntfs partition info in the fstab. this is such a common 'task' documented all over like here ---------->
[03:32] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[03:32] <grg> thanks very much
[03:32] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: shouldnt his NTFS disk be mounted automatically?
[03:33] <grg> now i cant use windows ahaha its ugly
[03:33] <Dr_willis> now WRITING To ntfs - is a bit more risky. but jus reading the data is easy.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  depends.  from the # of people i see asking about it in here.. it dont always happen.
[03:33] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: ok..
[03:33] <Dr_willis> I think dapper did not do it.. then edgy started doing it.
[03:33] <grg> Dr_willis:  thanks i go to eat now i come back in few
[03:34] <Dr_willis> but i also recall some how they were doing stuff wrongly - and only setting it where root could access them
[03:34] <grg> Dr_willis:  ok how to join a french channel please ?
[03:34] <Bonaldo2000> works fine on my edgy...but I have also enabled write-support
[03:34] <Dr_willis>  - /join #whateverthenameis
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !fr
[03:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:34] <grg> ok
[03:34] <grg> :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  so you are using ntfs-3g? or the fuse stuff?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> my fstab entry ----->>   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0002,user,users 0 0
[03:35] <Dr_willis> that mounts my one lonly windows partition. :)
[03:35] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: hm, I believe ntfs-3g uses fuse somehow..
[03:35] <grg> ook i ll back
[03:35] <grg> ++
[03:35] <Dr_willis> I never have looked into it that much.. I let windows read/write to the ext2/3 drives :)
[03:35] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: I have follwed a how-to on the forums...quite easy actually
[03:35] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[03:35] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:36] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: that is probably also better
[03:36] <Dr_willis> 'best' is to dump windows totally. :)
[03:37] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: hehe yeah...but difficult if you like to play games once in a while!
[03:37] <Dr_willis> actually given the state of pc gaming... i dont play them any more
[03:37] <MarkCh> good for productivity though.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> games are for the weak.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:37] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: hehe. I play Oblivion and some soccer games...and thats about it :-)
[03:38] <Dr_willis> Been Playing Oblivion... and it well.. looked purty.. and got  monotous...
[03:38] <Dr_willis> and the $(*@&@ interface is idiotic. :)
[03:38] <MarkCh> i do play nethack in linux.
[03:38] <MarkCh> its the most challenging game ever.
[03:38] <Dr_willis> RCTW:ET :)
[03:38] <Dr_willis> nethack annoys me now that they patched out all the cheats. :)
[03:38] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: with Oblivion you have to use mods...they make the game 10x better I think...
[03:38] <Dr_willis> cant steal from the stores any more.
[03:39] <MarkCh> cheating is for the weak :((
[03:39] <Bonaldo2000> improve on the interface among other things
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  yep.. but the interface is still sucky. I use some Bag-of-wonder mod so i dont have to worry about carrying things.
[03:39] <Bonaldo2000> ok...
[03:39] <Dr_willis> tried all the interface improvements.. some of them were very badly written.
[03:39] <chavo> All you need ET
[03:40] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: I use mods to make it prettier and then a balance mod
[03:40] <Dr_willis> just the fact that they made stuff like organizing your inventory and selling to the shopkeepers such a clickfest..
[03:40] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: works quite good. But yes I agree, the interface is not the best
[03:41] <Bonaldo2000> By the way, any idea of this problem I asked about before..I'll just repost:
[03:41] <Bonaldo2000> anyone know what it might mean if the boot process fails saying "USB disconnect" a couple of times? Mine has done that a few times lately...
[03:41] <Dr_willis> so i keep windows on the. and play obolibian for about.. perhaps an hr every week or so.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  unplug any extra usb devices/gzmos? and see if it works> this on the livecd? or on a working isntlled system?
[03:42] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: it is on a fully installed (and perfectly working once booted) system. It doent do it every time I boot. It is pretty rare, but very strange I think...
[03:42] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: has done it two times the last week
[03:42] <Dr_willis> Stop rebooting! :)
[03:43] <Dr_willis> sounds almost like a bad usb-connector.
[03:43] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: hehe, I could do that, but I sleep in the same room as the computer is in and it would be annoying to listen to it!
[03:43] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:43] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  thats why the last pc i built i went for the "Quiet Case and fans"
[03:43] <soulrider> Bonaldo2000: when i sleep my computer is under my bed
[03:43] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: it could be...I never had any problems in windows though.
[03:44] <Dr_willis> I got mine in a desk/cabnet.
[03:44] <Bonaldo2000> soulrider: hehe
[03:44] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  windows may just be ignoring the error. It likes to just ignore things. :)
[03:44] <soulrider> Dr_willis: i have a hiddenbed ( http://hiddenbed.com ) so when i sleep its underneath me
[03:44] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: that is true! :-) Do you know how to somehow force Linux to continue to boot if it has stopped due to an error like that?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> a regular 'bachlors pad' :)
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Bonaldo2000,  nope. never noticed.
[03:45] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: ok...
[03:45] <Dr_willis> ive had issues in the past with some machines when id boot to windows then 'reboot' to linux.. Windows had the PNP devices set up where linux couldent reset them
[03:45] <Dr_willis> but a power up straight to linux worked fine.
[03:46] <Dr_willis> but since your problem is not consistant... well..
[03:47] <Bonaldo2000> Dr_willis: that is an interesting idea actually! It happened today and I had just been inside Windows! I will keep an eye out for if it is related...
[03:49] <soulrider> Dr_willis: i have a problem you might be able to help me with :P
[03:50] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  depends. :)
[03:50] <soulrider> i added a vga line to my grub so the resolution in my cosnole was nice
[03:50] <soulrider> LOL
[03:50] <soulrider> when i boot the splash looks normal
[03:50] <soulrider> but when i shutdown
[03:50] <soulrider> the colors are all weird and nasty
[03:50] <soulrider> and sometimes its quite screwed up
[03:50] <Dr_willis> i always disable the framebuffer, and splash screen.. so .. cant help ya much.
[03:51] <compilerwriter> I am trying to sort out some issues with xming anyone able to help?
[03:51] <soulrider> Dr_willis: ok
[03:51] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  that ive used befor. :) heh
[03:51] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis ok if I ask you privately?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> given that i may have to leave at any time... proberly not a good idea..
[03:52] <igorjr> hi
[03:53] <igorjr> !kpilot
[03:53] <ubotu> kpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1887 kB, installed size 4348 kB
[03:53] <igorjr> when i sync my palm with the kpilot, a nasty sound is getting played
[03:54] <om3ga> !gamil
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <om3ga> !gmail
[03:54] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[03:54] <compilerwriter> Well then I am trying to get xming to connect to my linux box so that I have a full kde session.  I really want to get rid of one monitor and keyboard.
[03:55] <compilerwriter> igorjr at least you are synching.  I gave up with my z21.  I synch it on an xp box.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> xming has options to run a X app in its own window, or in its own desktop i belive..  i just havent usedit in ages. They had that 'xming wizard' that walked ya through it all.
[03:56] <compilerwriter> Are you still with me Dr_willis
[03:57] <igorjr> compilerwriter: didn't you mean z22?
[03:57] <igorjr> i dumped it for an old, grayscale m125
[03:59] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis I have tried the one that uses its own desktop but all I get is an xterm.  I would like it to work just like my desktop here.  I am not getting something quite right.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> You proberly need to set up a .xinitrc perhaps? if you just get an xterm in the 'single big window' ya could try running 'startkde'
[04:00] <compilerwriter> no igorjr I meant z21.
[04:00] <igorjr> compilerwriter: i c, sad though, but it guess you got the usuall help, so i don't need to suggest anything ;)
[04:01] <om3ga> !gmail
[04:01] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[04:02] <compilerwriter> By God Dr_willis I think you may be on to something.
[04:03] <VorelAesthyr> does anyone have a suggestion on alternate irc (ummmm) "host" than konversation or gaim?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> i use xchat
[04:03] <Dr_willis> then theres kvirc
[04:03] <Dr_willis> OR the old-skool goodness of irssi
[04:03] <compilerwriter> I at least have a screen that gets me to the .5 stage of validating.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> hey gents , anyone use cdparanoia ?
[04:04] <compilerwriter> It is not going any further though Dr_willis
[04:04] <VorelAesthyr> thanks Dr_willis I'll have to try one of those
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Is this a complication of having 2 complete kde sessions going?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  not sure what you mean.  its Possible 2 kde sessions may be confusing things.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> try a different window manager/desktop like xfce, or somthing lighter.
[04:05] <compilerwriter> Should I try to go down to console mode on this box and then try again?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> just try a different window manager.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> would be simpiler.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I dotn have a xp box handy to test out xming.. so cant try it all myself.
[04:06] <chavo> You should be able to run 2 KDE sessions, I've done it here
[04:06] <chavo> but I'm using X on both machines
[04:06] <Dr_willis>  But i recall issues ages ago when runing kde more then once.. but i thought that had been fixed.
[04:07] <_eMaX> hi
[04:07] <_eMaX> help
[04:07] <_eMaX> anyone knows what to do if beryl runs at 100% and cannot be killed
[04:07] <compilerwriter> I have selected fullscreen in the xlauncher
[04:08] <_eMaX> every now and then (about once per day) my system makes a light "beep" and then freezes. I can stil log in using ssh and then even start a new X session
[04:08] <_eMaX> yet beryl continues to run and eats up all cpu
[04:08] <jhutchins> _eMaX: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:08] <_eMaX> did that
[04:08] <_eMaX> evne killed kdm
[04:08] <jhutchins> did it quit?
[04:08] <_eMaX> sorry for the typos my system is really slow here now
[04:08] <Dr_willis> sounds like the video driver/berel crashed big time.. :)
[04:09] <_eMaX> yes that worked and I could restart X
[04:09] <_eMaX> yep
[04:09] <_eMaX> I mean  ican reboot if  ihave another computer nearby
[04:09] <_eMaX> but that sucks of course
[04:09] <Dr_willis> beryl = 'not quite ready for prime time ussage' :)
[04:09] <jhutchins> Yeah, well, that's why people will tell you beryl's not stable, not ready for a production system.
[04:09] <compilerwriter> Then I selected start a program. I selected startkde in that window.
[04:09] <_eMaX> this time I tried to actually "not reboot" to fix the problem
[04:10] <_eMaX> it should at least be killalbe
[04:10] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,   try just launching a xterm , then using 'startkde' in that terminal.. so you can see any error messages perhaps.
[04:10] <jhutchins> _eMaX: Do you know which actual process is using 100%?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  or try some smaller simpiler window manager like fluxbox as a test. to see if that works.
[04:10] <_eMaX> yes
[04:10] <_eMaX> beryl
[04:11] <_eMaX> that is the name of the process
[04:11] <igorjr> !printer
[04:11] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:11] <compilerwriter> There is a button that is for "Open session vi XDMCP"  whatever that is
[04:11] <jhutchins> _eMaX: All I can suggest is wait for the next update.
[04:11] <_eMaX> wow
[04:11] <_eMaX> look
[04:11] <_eMaX> from dmesg
[04:12] <VorelAesthyr> _eMaX have you tried adjusting the properties of beryl?
[04:12] <_eMaX> sorry I dont pastebin it would take hours to start firefox
[04:12] <_eMaX> Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason b0 on CPU 0
[04:12] <_eMaX>  You have some hardware problem, likely on the PCI bus.
[04:13] <_eMaX> Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
[04:13] <delmp> hello
[04:13] <_eMaX> Non-volatile memory driver v1.2
[04:13] <bonbonthejon> hi del
[04:13] <bonbonthejon> hi delmp
[04:13] <compilerwriter> bad font path element.
[04:13] <bonbonthejon> oh, he left
[04:13] <compilerwriter> Maybe in need the font pack from xming
[04:15] <compilerwriter> or could I just use my box as a font server?
[04:15] <_eMaX> ok giving up rebooting
[04:17] <om3ga> arg cant send mail in evolution
[04:17] <om3ga> reciving fine but cant send
[04:17] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: is the smtp server setup
[04:17] <om3ga> yep
[04:17] <om3ga> maybe its gmail
[04:18] <ckl> un pregunta como se utiliza el copete
[04:18] <ckl> ___
[04:19] <bonbonthejon> !es | ckl
[04:19] <ubotu> ckl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:20] <ckl> o.k gacias
[04:20] <ckl> XD
[04:20] <om3ga> can not connect to smtp.gmail.com sesion timed out
[04:23] <om3ga> !smtp
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: did you follow the instructions on gmails site
[04:24] <Dr_willis> you do have to enable the smtp support for your gmail account - i recall
[04:24] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  XDMCP is normaly how one gets to the 'kdm' screen remotely.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  i would also install the font packs for xming as well
[04:25] <om3ga> im on ubuntus site using gmail with evolution
[04:25] <om3ga> it maybe the port
[04:25] <zen> hello i have to install java 6 from the shell what's the command?
[04:26] <zen> any one knows the command to install java 6 from the shell?
[04:27] <om3ga> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:27] <om3ga> i just had to do it too
[04:27] <zen> thanx
[04:28] <Jucato> make sure you enable the edgy-backports repository in your sources.list
[04:28] <om3ga> sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[04:28] <om3ga> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:28] <zen> hi jucato it's me yes i did
[04:28] <zen> how u doing=
[04:28] <om3ga> you may need these also
[04:28] <zen> ?
[04:28] <zen> later ill pastbin my repos to see if im missing anything
[04:29] <zen> can i enable mozilla plugin for java and flash player whit jave 6 and 9?
[04:29] <zen> i got both plugins in repos
[04:29] <zen> or i don'tnead em?
[04:31] <igorjr> !adept
[04:31] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:31] <zen> so jucato we nead em or not?
[04:31] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis I installed the font packs but that didn't seem to help matters.  I tried xdmcp thing as well and got one big xterm.
[04:31] <eze> quien me ayuda con kubuntu
[04:31] <Jucato> zen: what? sorry
[04:31] <zen> once u installed java 6 and flash 9 is it good to put both pluings for java and flash in mozilla from repos?
[04:31] <Jucato> !ar | eze
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Jucato> !es | eze
[04:32] <ubotu> eze: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:32] <eze> ok thaks
[04:32] <zen> eze como te estas?
[04:32] <Jucato> zen: you only need to install flashplugin-nonfree for both Konqueror and Firefox. you need sun-java6-plugin for Firefox though
[04:32] <igorjr> !wine
[04:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:33] <eze> bien
[04:33] <zen> ok  well my abobe flash player was installed by firefox is that ok?
[04:33] <zen> adobe*
[04:33] <zen> de donde es eze madrid?
[04:33] <blekos_> hi, my registered nickname is taken, how can i claime it?
[04:34] <eze> no argentina
[04:34] <zen> tu es italiano eze ?
[04:34] <zen> originario?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  tried running a window manager from within that xterm yet?
[04:34] <eze> zen tengo un problemazo cun esto
[04:34] <zen> che problema?
[04:35] <grhimped> question, how do i enable sound in the fb? for mp3blaster and mplayer?
[04:35] <bimmel> woher bekomm ich denn smbmount
[04:35] <Jucato> zen, eze: English please
[04:35] <zen> yo abloe espanol un pochito yo soy de roma
[04:35] <bimmel> hups sorry
[04:35] <Jucato> !de | bimmel
[04:35] <ubotu> bimmel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:35] <zen> on jucato
[04:35] <bimmel> wrong channel ;)
[04:35] <om3ga> ok i got evolution up it just wasnt asking for my password to send for some reason that was odd
[04:35] <compilerwriter> How do I do that?  All I get is the background and the cursor no menus.
[04:35] <zen> is it ok jucato that mozilla installed adobe flash player for me?
[04:36] <zen> firefox did everything
[04:36] <Jucato> zen: don't know if that will work though. you can try
[04:36] <zen> java 6 is installed so i take plugin for java 6 for firefox then where is it?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  in the xterm window type the name of a window manager.. like 'startx' or instll a lighter one like fluxbox
[04:37] <Dr_willis> and run it.
[04:37] <jhutchins> zen: Why would you even ask if it was ok?  Just run the darned thing and see what happens!
[04:37] <Jucato> zen: sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <om3ga> !aim
[04:37] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:37] <MarkCh> zen: it's ok. but the one on the repo updates itself, so it is therefore, better to use the ones on the repos instead.
[04:38] <compilerwriter> kde tries to start up, but doesn't do so well.
[04:38] <zen> ok thanx so ill install this non free plugin to then
[04:40] <compilerwriter> startx didn't work well.
[04:40] <swoke> Hello.
[04:40] <bonbonthejon> hi
[04:41] <patriciacaba> hello
[04:41] <swoke> I tried to update nvidia module to latest, via wiki, and since I got "Segmentation fault" when launching glxinfo or beryl...
[04:41] <zen> perfect only thing i hate 6.10 is buggy so i must click adept 2 times to open it
[04:41] <swoke> Any kind of idea ?
[04:42] <grhimped> question, how do i enable sound in the fb? for mp3blaster and mplayer?
[04:43] <MarkCh> zen: why not use synaptic. i used adept too and didnt like it, so i ran synaptic in kde instead. but you must remember to put update-manager on autostart.
[04:43] <alexixor> yo
[04:43] <gherson> zen: your is son of whore
[04:44] <alexixor> i would like to install e17 on my kubuntu box..
[04:44] <blekos> hi, i am looking for a free dj program any ideas?
[04:44] <MarkCh> !audacity | blekos
[04:44] <ubotu> blekos: audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[04:44] <MarkCh> alexixor: ... go ahead install it. :)
[04:44] <bonbonthejon> !e17
[04:44] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:45] <alexixor> i know
[04:45] <zen> gherson what u want ?
[04:45] <alexixor> i followed http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog-edgy_en.php/post/2006/12/05/Enlightenment-Repositories-for-Ubuntu-Edgy-Eft
[04:45] <zen> why are u offending?
[04:45] <swoke> no kind of idea ? :(
[04:45] <zen> mark ok i might use synaptic thanx
[04:46] <zen> what's wrong whit cristina why is she offending?
[04:46] <alexixor> but apt says that ecore1-bin cannot be installed...
[04:46] <alexixor> any ideas?
[04:47] <alexixor> actually it says that ecore1 does not exists...
[04:48] <Cristina> hellooooooooooooooo my name is dicvreet   :) :) :) your is whore or prostitute
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[04:49] <bonbonthejon> !admin
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <MarkCh> !language | Cristina
[04:50] <ubotu> Cristina: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:50] <Jucato> Cristina: please stop that
[04:51] <om3ga> !#string
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about string - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <om3ga> !list
[04:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:52] <MarkCh> om3ga: ?
[04:53] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis I am installing fluxbox on my box now.
[04:53] <om3ga> lol i was seeing if it would tell me the comand to list all channels in irc
[04:53] <Jucato> om3ga: Window menu -> Channel list
[04:53] <Jucato> om3ga: you can also use /list, but be careful as it will lag you down
[04:54] <om3ga> ok
[04:54] <thomax> om3ga:http://www.mirc.com/cmds.html
[04:55] <om3ga> it wont show anything though just opens channels  with nothing in it
[04:55] <thomax> om3ga: /list [#string]  [-min #]  [-max #]  Lists all currently available channels, evt. filtering for parameters.
[04:55] <Jucato> om3ga: you use the filter to search for channels
[04:56] <compilerwriter> how does one fire up fluxbox?
[04:57] <om3ga> ok got it had to hit apply
[04:57] <om3ga> <bangs head against wall
[04:58] <cyt> crookshanks: try startfluxbox
[04:58] <crookshanks> eh? :P
[04:59] <CaptainApathy> what do I need to do to get scripts to execute on system startup?
[05:00] <CaptainApathy> er... to get a script to execute on startup
[05:00] <MarkCh> CaptainApathy: as in @ boot or at login?
[05:00] <CaptainApathy> at boot
[05:00] <grhimped> Can anyone please tell me how to enable sound in the framebuffer?
[05:00] <jo89> ciao a  tutti
[05:00] <jo89> i'm italian boy
[05:01] <MarkCh> CaptainApathy: im not sure, as i havent tried something like that yet, but i think its on /etc/init.d
[05:03] <surgy> hi
[05:03] <MarkCh> !hi
[05:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:03] <milardovich> hi
[05:03] <cyt> CaptainApathy: FYI # http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[05:03] <surgy> hello ubotu
[05:03] <cyt> CaptainApathy: "Making scripts run at boot time with Debian"
[05:03] <compilerwriter> Well Dr_willis I tried installing fluxbox, but that did not fire up for me with xming.
[05:03] <milardovich> 13:03 in argentina :)
[05:04] <compilerwriter> kde tries to fire up but falters somewhere.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  run a xterm in a full screen/desktop and type in 'fluxbox' , or startx yet?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> or 'startkde' ?
[05:08] <compilerwriter> I think I have tried that but I will try again now.
[05:08] <jean-benoit> salut a tous
[05:08] <surgy> hey guys i have a question
[05:08] <jean-benoit> kubuntu fr svp un lien pliz!!
[05:09] <compilerwriter> I set up a fullscreen/desktop told it to run xterm when it started up xming on my host.  I got an xterm and an X cursor then it crapped out.
[05:09] <surgy> i want to run vnc4server automaticly when kubuntu starts
[05:09] <CaptainApathy> !kubuntu-fr
[05:09] <surgy> so i can access my computer from anywhere all the time
[05:09] <compilerwriter> !fr
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:09] <jean-benoit> !fr
[05:09] <CaptainApathy> ah
[05:09] <jean-benoit> merci
[05:09] <CaptainApathy> close
[05:09] <CaptainApathy> oh well
[05:10] <compilerwriter> How does one get to an editor from less, I am so frustrated I can't remember that.
[05:11] <grhimped> Can anyone please tell me how to enable sound in the framebuffer?
[05:20] <RagePrblm> Anyone awake?
[05:20] <CaptainApathy> RagePrblm: no
[05:20] <JernejL> hi where do i report bugs in kubuntu?
[05:21] <Jucato> !bugs | JernejL
[05:21] <ubotu> JernejL: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:21] <JernejL> ok thanks.
[05:22] <Jucato> JernejL: it would be good if you could find someone to reproduce your bug first before reporting it
[05:22] <JernejL> i can reproduce them.
[05:22] <RagePrblm> Anyone know the command to download kde desktop in the terminal, i bloody forgot it
[05:22] <JernejL> like, &amp; in a hint box...
[05:22] <Jucato> JernejL: I mean other users
[05:22] <RagePrblm> i thought it was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but I guess not
[05:22] <Jucato> RagePrblm: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <ForgeAus> kde or kubuntu?
[05:23] <RagePrblm> is kubuntu not ubuntu with a kde frontend?
[05:23] <ForgeAus> basically yes
[05:23] <Dr_willis> ubntu - gnome + kde
[05:24] <JernejL> Jucato, okay, go to kde control center, shrink the left treeview until you see a item with a & in the caption, hover over it to see hint window.
[05:24] <ForgeAus> Dr_willis at least some of gnome
[05:24] <JernejL> it should show amps as &amp;
[05:24] <Dr_willis> i always install it all anyway
[05:24] <JernejL> it's a bug.
[05:24] <ForgeAus> theres lotsa Gtk of course but some gnomey bits still in there
[05:24] <RagePrblm> aw jeez, i was right after all, thanks for the line anyways Jucato  I spelled it wrong in terminal!
[05:24] <Jucato> JernejL: might be a KDE bug to file upstream
[05:25] <blekos> i have a problem, the adept manager pops up a message database locked!! but i have no other adept manager running
[05:25] <Jucato> !adeptfix | blekos
[05:25] <ubotu> blekos: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:25] <JernejL> Jucato, i don't care whose bug is, i'll just fill it whereever it pops up.
[05:25] <Jucato> JernejL: unfortunately, if you file it in Kubuntu only, it might not get pushed to KDE. but file away if you want
[05:27] <Sanne> RagePrblm: there are some Kubuntu specifics different from Kde, for example this one: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[05:27] <RagePrblm> groovy, imma check that out right now actually
[05:28] <Sanne> RagePrblm: this one was important for me, as I was accustomed to the default Konqueror behaviour.
[05:28] <surgy> can someone suggest a good vncserver/viewer please?
[05:28] <blekos> thnx it worked:)
[05:28] <swoke> damn, since new install of nvidia latest driver, glxinfo gives me "rendering no" :(
[05:29] <Jucato> Sanne: if you're using Edgy, you might have noticed that following that guide doesn't bring back the other profiles though
[05:29] <RagePrblm> Well im gonnna read up on it a bit, cause right now im just getting acostomed to ubu, but I liked  the KDE intterface bbetter
[05:29] <RagePrblm> bloody keyboaard
[05:29] <Sanne> Jucato: I don't yet, I'm still on Dapper. Good to know, thanks.
[05:29] <RagePrblm> ack!
[05:30] <surgy> i want to set up a nice vnc server on my computer and make it autostart with kubuntu so i can access my computer from anywhere anytime
[05:30] <Sanne> Jucato: do you know what to do for Edgy, by any chance?
[05:30] <igorjr> is there a way of completely shutting down a session and beginning with a new one?
[05:30] <Jucato> Sanne: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[05:30] <Sanne> Jucato: thanks so much! *bookmarked for later use*
[05:31] <Jucato> Sanne: if you do upgrade from Dapper, chances are you won't need to make extra steps to get them back as they should be saved
[05:31] <Sanne> RagePrblm: see also Jucato's link for Edgy
[05:31] <Jucato> JernejL: your bug is a KDE bug, it turns out
[05:31] <RagePrblm> Word
[05:31] <Sanne> Jucato: ah, that's nice. Good to know in any case, though :)
[05:31] <JernejL> Jucato, more info?
[05:32] <Jucato> I asked other KDE (non-Kubuntu) users to confirm.
[05:33] <Jucato> hm...
[05:33] <JernejL> okay then.
[05:33] <Jucato> ok might be a Kubuntu bug lol
[05:33] <Jucato> go ahead and file it
[05:33] <Jucato> I'll just link to it upstream if I find a bug
[05:34] <Heavenquake> I have trouble with wifi. The computer I'm talking about is actually running Ubuntu, but nobody seems to be helpful in #ubuntu, so considering that it's afterall the same OS, and it's not a GUI-problem, I guess it would be legitimate to ask here too?
[05:35] <CaptainApathy> Heavenquake: what's the problem?
[05:35] <CaptainApathy> is the wireless device being detected?
[05:36] <Heavenquake> CaptainApathy: My card seems to be recognized, installed and activated properly (I installed some fsaa-driver-thingy, which told me in /var/log/messages that radio was turned ON). But I can't find any accesspoints.
[05:36] <CaptainApathy> hm...
[05:37] <CaptainApathy> does fsaa-driver support your card?
[05:37] <surgy> i want to set up a nice vnc server on my computer and make it autostart with kubuntu so i can access my computer from anywhere anytime
[05:37] <RagePrblm> This may  be a strange question but does anyone know whether virtual pc 07 allows the scroll wheel to be used in the emulated os?
[05:38] <CaptainApathy> Rage, no idea
[05:38] <compilerwriter1> Yes I can finally get down to one keyboard and one monitor.
[05:38] <Heavenquake> CaptainApathy: I guess so. As it seems to activate my card.. iwlist eth2 (which seems to be the correct interface) scan returns "no scan results"
[05:38] <RagePrblm> lol well thanks for a response anways :)
[05:40] <surgy> !vnc
[05:40] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:40] <surgy> !freenx
[05:40] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:41] <compilerwriter> Dr_willis the solution lay in getting the XDMCP thing working.  I finally found instructions on what to do to accomplish that.
[05:41] <Heavenquake> I will be back in ten minutes
[05:41] <slyfox> Do you also get this? Firefox crashes in Kubuntu.. ?
[05:43] <CaptainApathy> slyfox: no, firefox works fine for me..
[05:45] <CaptainApathy> Heavenquake: about the only thing I could suggest is check to confirm for certain if that driver supports your device.  if it does, try updating to the source version.  if it doesn't, try using ndiswrapper with the windows driver...
[05:45] <WannabeNewbie> Is anyone else having an issue with the auto update? Mine is showing that there is an update available, my problem comes into play when I click on it, it opens hundreds of password windows all at once. Is there a way to get this to stop?
[05:46] <CaptainApathy> sounds like kubuntu is detecting a whole bunch of clicks on the icon
[05:47] <WannabeNewbie> That would be logical I suppose, I am also having the same issue moving windows such as this one here. Any ideas how to fix this?
[05:47] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me if there is some way i can smooth red coloured objects in mplayer? atm all red coloured objects have HUGE pixels while everything else looks great
[05:47] <CaptainApathy> hm... Maybe in System settings/Keyboard& Mouse, Mouse?
[05:48] <surgy> no one here uses vnc?
[05:48] <tuco> Guys how I can kill adept process as it seems frozen?
[05:48] <surgy> tuco: sudo killall adept
[05:48] <WannabeNewbie> That would be great except I can't click on anything now. This is starting to concern me... LOL!
[05:48] <surgy> i want to set up a nice vnc server on my computer and make it autostart with kubuntu so i can access my computer from anywhere anytime
[05:49] <CaptainApathy> surgy: alright...
[05:49] <surgy> CaptainApathy: ?
[05:49] <tuco> no process killed Surgy! and Adept doesn't want to start
[05:49] <CaptainApathy> surgy: what's the problem?
[05:50] <WannabeNewbie> is there a way to access the mouse control options from within the console/terminal?
[05:50] <surgy> CaptainApathy: i need a good vncserver/client and then i need to make the server auto start
[05:50] <CaptainApathy> tuco, you'll probably need to release the lock on the data file
[05:50] <surgy> !fixadept |tuco
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <surgy> !adeptfix |tuco
[05:51] <ubotu> tuco: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:51] <CaptainApathy> surgy: alright... I don't know of any vncserver to use
[05:51] <surgy> CaptainApathy: ok
[05:52] <surgy> CaptainApathy: i think im gonna run realvnc through wine
[05:52] <tuco> ok it worked Thanks surgy
[05:52] <surgy> tuco: np
[05:52] <RagePrblm> If I hit the close button (X) in xchat will it minimize to the tray on the top of the screen or close entirely
[05:52] <tuco> another question :-) I want my internet connection to start automatically without me going into the wireless manager each and everyt time. How can I do that?
[05:53] <WannabeNewbie> yes
[05:53] <RagePrblm> ?
[05:53] <frojnd> heloo, why media player plugin can't play .vmw?
[05:53] <frojnd> it just play sound but not pictures..
[05:53] <surgy> CaptainApathy: how do i add an application to startup everytime kubuntu starts?
[05:54] <surgy> !wmv | frojnd
[05:54] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:54] <RagePrblm> frojnd, Im guessing you need some codecs
[05:54] <CaptainApathy> surgy: System settings: Advanced: Service Manager (probably)
[05:54] <CaptainApathy> that or manually adding a script to handle things into the startup
[05:55] <cpk1> surgy: what are you trying to start? some stuff you can start by putting it into /etc/rc.local
[05:56] <surgy> cpk1: im trying to get my vnc server to start automaticly when kubuntu starts so i can always access my computer
[05:56] <WannabeNewbie> /exit
[05:56] <WannabeNewbie> /q
[05:56] <tuco> anyone can help?
[05:57] <CaptainApathy> tuco, do you always connect to the same point?
[05:57] <tuco> yes from home...wireless connection
[05:57] <cpk1> surgy: so do you start it by running vnc start or something?
[05:58] <CaptainApathy> if you do, you can probably do an ifup on it and it should reconnect to the same server
[05:58] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me if there is some way i can smooth red coloured objects in mplayer? atm all red coloured objects have HUGE pixels while everything else looks great
[05:58] <surgy> spk1: im still trying to figure that out, im trying my windows software via wine first becuase thats the only program i know
[05:59] <flake> how do i untar a .gz file
[05:59] <flake> into a directory or by creating a directory
[05:59] <tuco> I heard about autostart but don't know what to do really Captain
[06:00] <blue|palm> anyone here have mplayer experience
[06:00] <CaptainApathy> tuco: /etc/init.d maybe?
[06:00] <cpk1> surgy: there are several vnc apps for linux
[06:01] <Sanne> flake: in Konqueror should be an option "extract to subdirectory" under "actions"
[06:01] <surgy> cpk1: ive been looking, i want a graphicle one and cant find one most are comand line crap
[06:01] <CaptainApathy> or /etc/rc.firewall might be a good place to ifup the interface
[06:01] <cpk1> theres an svga one
[06:01] <Sanne> flake: sorry: that is in the right click menu
[06:02] <surgy> cpk1: yeah but when i connect to it with vnc4viewer it is comand line only, i want a desktop to be displayed in a window
[06:02] <cpk1> and there is also a vnc for X
[06:02] <surgy> cpk1: have you used it?
[06:03] <flake> i want to do it from the command line, I'm getting some sort of error when I try to drag/drop the folder from the extract
[06:03] <cpk1> nope
[06:03] <Sanne> flake: I don't know the exact command, but "man tar" should tell you
[06:03] <tuco> what is that Captain?
[06:04] <cpk1> gunzip is -xzf
[06:07] <flake> thanks, I needed  tar -xvvf   filename.gz
[06:08] <cpk1> flake: no... gunzip is -xzf
[06:08] <cpk1> you can use -xvzf for verbose if you want
[06:09] <flake> man tar gave me that -   tar -xvvf
[06:09] <flake> or did i read it wrong
[06:10] <cpk1> flake: gunzip is inflated with tar -xzf or tar -xvzf if you want verbose
[06:10] <cpk1> a non-gunzipped tar is inflated with -xf
[06:10] <flake> the manual must be wrong then
[06:10] <flake> typo
[06:11] <cpk1> hrmmm no, looks like the man says the same thing
[06:12] <flake> i was looking under examples
[06:12] <flake> first page
[06:13] <cpk1> tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz extract gzipped foo.tar.gz seems pretty clear =)
[06:13] <flake> oh .gz file, well it still extracted adn is making
[06:14] <flake> and it works
[06:15] <surgy> vnc viewer closed with this error: "directvnc closed do to the following error(s): segmentation fault"
[06:16] <blue|palm> can anyone assist me with a very annoiying mplayer problem that is keeping windows on my second harddrive still (i wont let go of windows till i can fix this :) )
[06:16] <hatta> what's the problem?
[06:19] <AMSmith42> Isn't the password for su the same as for sudo?
[06:20] <AMSmith42> I can sudo, but I can't su for some reason.
[06:20] <hatta> su is the root password, sudo is your password
[06:20] <AMSmith42> Ah.
[06:20] <hatta> try sudo su
[06:21] <blue|palm> does anyone here use mplayer with an ati card and fglrx prop drivers ?
[06:21] <hatta> not i
[06:21] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[06:21] <BluesKaj> yup. blue|palm
[06:22] <eilker> !ftp
[06:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:22] <eilker> !vsftpd
[06:22] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[06:22] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: Red pixels... are they massively blocky when using mplayer ?
[06:22] <eilker> !server
[06:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:22] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: everything works except for the colour red!!!
[06:22] <surgy> i need help with vnc, i found a server call x11vnc and it is running nicely, but now i need a client, i tried sudo apt-cache search vnc and tried every client in that list and it seams non of them are compatible with x11vnc
[06:22] <BluesKaj> no, blue|
[06:22] <BluesKaj> no, blue|palm
[06:23] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: what command line options are you using ? or gui options ?
[06:23] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: please tell :)
[06:23] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: if possible please give me your mplayer config file?
[06:23] <BluesKaj> defaults blue|palm
[06:23] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: ...
[06:23] <BluesKaj> lemme look
[06:24] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: thats not fair...
[06:24] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: lol
[06:25] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: and you are in kubuntu? using default window manager etc?
[06:25] <BluesKaj> yup
[06:25] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: how...
[06:25] <Dr_willis> surgy,  kde has a vncclient built in.
[06:25] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: can you please check what video driver you are using?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> surgy,  or what os were you needing the client on
[06:26] <surgy> dr_willis: i just found my problem :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> surgy,  :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> surgy,  did some RTFMing?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> surgy,  at one time i had vncserver set up where it spawned as needed, and gave me a kdm screen. However the X sessions were not 'persistant'
[06:27] <BluesKaj> blue|palm, OpenGL version string: 2.0.6286 (8.33.6)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> perssistant?
[06:27] <surgy> Dr_willis: but how do i make x11vnc start automaticly whenkubuntu starts, and no i just realized that after a connection is lost x11vnc closes
[06:27] <BluesKaj> blue|palm, OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series Generic
[06:27] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: Is that the video driver used in mplayer ?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> surgy,  ive never had to use x11vnc. what are you wanting to do exactly? share the EXISTING desktop?  get to a KDM with vnc? or Both? :)
[06:27] <BluesKaj> dunno , I would think so
[06:28] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: and are you running it from command line or from the user interface?
[06:28] <BluesKaj> gui
[06:28] <BluesKaj> it's easier to click ,play
[06:28] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: of course
[06:29] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: are you using the one from apt-get install mplayer?
[06:29] <surgy> Dr_willis: actually i just want to access my desktop from anywhere anytime
[06:29] <BluesKaj> blue|palm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[06:29] <surgy> Dr_willis: im actually in a differenty room now :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> surgy,  so you want a new desktop to Spawn when you vnc in?
[06:29] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: Ive got the latest drivers... thats definitely not the prob
[06:29] <Dr_willis> or do you want to access your currently running desktop
[06:30] <Dr_willis> surgy,  either way has some limitations...
[06:30] <surgy> Dr_willis: no i want my current desktop to show in a vnc client anywhere
[06:30] <blue|palm> BluesKaj:
[06:30] <blue|palm> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[06:30] <blue|palm> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series
[06:30] <blue|palm> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> surgy,  enable the kde vncservice then?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> kde has 'desktop sharing' feature built in.
[06:30] <surgy> dr_willis: how?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> But if the machine reboots it will get reset
[06:30] <Dr_willis> surgy,  its right there in the menus.. :)
[06:30] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: sorry to trouble you, but one more thing... can you check what video driver your mplayer is using? You can check in the options
[06:31] <BluesKaj> blue|palm, you still ahve to config your xorg file , so I suggest you check out that procedure listed on the url.
[06:31] <surgy> Dr_willis: i want it to always be open to a new vnc connection so if im somewhere else i can access it
[06:31] <Dr_willis> internet -> desktop shareing
[06:31] <Dr_willis> surgy,  then you are asking 2 different things. :)
[06:31] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: Ive had full 3D accelleration with beryl/compiz running great before on this same pc (im back to kwin though) so i know my drivers are fine :)
[06:31] <Dr_willis> a new vnc 'desktop' is not the current desktop.
[06:31] <surgy> can i pm you?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i hade VNC set up where when i vnc'd in - it would give me the KDM login. however that was NOT the current desktop
[06:32] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: can you check what video driver mplayer is using? From the gui go RightClick->Preferences->Video
[06:32] <eilker> ftp://localhost is working, but  ftp://myip   is not working....
[06:32] <kunal_> hi all, i seem to have lost sound on one particular login
[06:32] <kunal_> my audio works fine on other users
[06:33] <kunal_> but while playing some songs yesterday, the sound just went out
[06:33] <kunal_> and i havent been able to restart sound since
[06:33] <kunal_> any idea why this could happen ?
[06:33] <leafw> is there any way to get reliable sleep/suspend in thinkpads with edgy? Does feisty do a better job?
[06:33] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: ive also been through that guide too :)
[06:34] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: does your mplayer gui work 100% fine?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> blue|palm, there are several, which format ?
[06:34] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: if i run gmplayer
[06:35] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: the gui got from building mplayer from source
[06:35] <bonbonthejon> is there a command to find an ip address for a specific interface
[06:35] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: with ./configure --enable-gui
[06:35] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: mine crashes if i drag a media file onto the gui
[06:36] <blue|palm> has anybody here with an ati card ever had any problems with using the mplayer gui?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> are you using gnome or kde desktop, blue|palm?
[06:36] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: kde
[06:36] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: hence #kubuntu
[06:36] <kunal_> which is the sound device in kubuntu? is it /dev/dsp?
[06:37] <blue|palm> kunal_: i think so yes
[06:37] <BluesKaj> don't use gmplayer , use kmplayer and mplayer
[06:37] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: ok
[06:37] <Sanne> bonbonthejon: maybe ifconfig?
[06:37] <blue|palm> BluesKaj: does it provide all the same options from that gui though?
[06:37] <BluesKaj> that's prolly what's wrong
[06:37] <BluesKaj> dunno
[06:37] <kunal_> so how do i check which processees are using the sound device? does anyone know how to use fuser?
[06:37] <bonbonthejon> Sanne: i looked at that, not exactly what i was looking for
[06:38] <BluesKaj> it should, blue|
[06:38] <BluesKaj> it should, blue|palm
[06:38] <Sanne> bonbonthejon: it lists my ip address for eth0, among others. What are you looking for exactly?
[06:38] <bonbonthejon> Sanne: im writing a bash script, i need a command that will give my ip so i can do a conditional statement
[06:39] <Sanne> bonbonthejon: ah, so you want only the ip then? Dunno then, sorry.
[06:41] <bonbonthejon> Sanne: thanks anyway
[06:45] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: The "ip" command works on some systems.  If not on yours, this HOWTO includes a script that determines the IP of various interfaces using "sed" or "awk":  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[06:45] <jernej> hi
[06:45] <jhutchins> Trims it out of ifconfig.
[06:45] <jernej> is there an alternate package manager i can use in kubuntu?
[06:47] <kunal_> jernej: try the commandline package managers like apt-get and aptitude
[06:47] <kunal_> they are better than Adept in many situations IMHO
[06:48] <jernej> yeah, that's like swimming over atlantic ocean with no hands.
[06:48] <kunal_> how?
[06:48] <kunal_> the apt command does everything that any gui client does
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: i found a similar way
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: thanks
[06:49] <jernej> kunal_: sure it does, but i won't touch console, it makes things easier to break.
[06:50] <noryx> hey everybody
[06:50] <noryx> i have one problem with my kubuntu edgy
[06:50] <dvrj> hi! how i can install qtiplot in my desktop kubuntu without acess to developer deb package?
[06:50] <noryx> could someone help me??
[06:50] <jimod> possibly
[06:50] <jhutchins> jernej: Dude, the majority of the power of linux comes through the console.  The GUI is just a skin.
[06:50] <bonbonthejon> noryx: whats the problem
[06:50] <noryx> i made some changes in usplash
[06:51] <noryx> but it didn't work
[06:51] <jhutchins> It's a lot easier for things to break in the GUI than in the console.
[06:51] <kunal_> jernej: i was looking at kuroo.org, which is the portage frontend
[06:51] <kunal_> it looks really cool
[06:51] <noryx> but when i now turning off computer it don't make it :-] 
[06:51] <kunal_> i hope someone ports it for .debs
[06:51] <noryx> screen is black
[06:52] <noryx> but it is on
[06:52] <jernej> jhutchins: i don't want linux, i want kubuntu, and kubuntu and kde or whoever is responsible for adept should work properly. otherwise it should have a beta label somewhere slapped over it.
[06:52] <noryx> i have laptop Dell Latitude C840
[06:52] <jernej> kunal_: what is portage?
[06:53] <jhutchins> jernej: You've got linux whether you want it or not.
[06:53] <xero_> jernej: portage is gentoo's package manager
[06:53] <noryx> jernej: it's package manager in gentoo :)
[06:53] <jhutchins> You should learn a little bit about open source user supported hardware before you start making declarations like that.
[06:53] <noryx> I had Gentoo
[06:53] <noryx> is fast
[06:54] <jhutchins> If you want an all GUI system with no console, run Windows.
[06:54] <kunal_> look at the screenshots of kuroo... openusability has made a big impact there
[06:54] <jhutchins> noryx: Yeah, but you spend all your time maintaining it.
[06:54] <noryx> right
[06:54] <Xerroz> I've used gentoo for the last 4 years, and its not really any faster than any other distro.
[06:54] <Sanne> jernej: well, I use the package manager from ubuntu/Gnome, Synaptic, in Kubuntu. Needs some gtk libs, though.
[06:54] <noryx> you have absolutely right
[06:55] <noryx> Xerroz: OpenOffice is faster
[06:55] <Xerroz> noryx: I'd be amazed if you actually got OpenOffice to compile...
[06:56] <noryx> Xerroz: no. I installed bin package but it was faster as on KUbuntu
[06:56] <Xerroz> very few applications will benefit from compiling to specific to your system, mainly multimedia applications which benefit from sse instructions and such.
[06:57] <noryx> but what about my problem?? Do you have solution?
[06:57] <Xerroz> noryx: the speed difference you experienced was more likely due to system resources being used. Understand Kubuntu is very generic. gentoo is built towards a specific platform. So it tends to be leaner while Kubuntu is built to support as much hardware as possible
[06:58] <noryx> I know
[06:58] <noryx> i had compiled kernel >;-)
[06:58] <Xerroz> (I plan to correct this problem soon ^_^)
[06:58] <arunkale> Does any one here know of any open source program that converts raster shapes to vector?
[06:59] <noryx> I think that Ubuntu should use KDE
[06:59] <noryx> KDE is better than GNOME
[07:00] <kunal_> arunkale: maybe inkscape
[07:00] <Xerroz> noryx: which is why we have Kubuntu
[07:00] <kunal_> what is the windows equivalent?
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> noryx: its about choices
[07:00] <noryx> that's why i choose Linux: Windows is not so free as OpenSource
[07:01] <noryx> I can use what I want
[07:01] <surgy> my problem cannot be this hard.... GRRRRR
[07:01] <surgy>  start x11vnxc on this computer and run krdc on the other computer mess around with my desktop then close krdc, and it closes my x11vnc server, i want the vnc server to remain open after the session is finished, i also want the vnc server to run in the background where i will never see it or have to activate it
[07:02] <surgy> also i want the vncserver to start when kde does
[07:02] <noryx> i had the same problem
[07:02] <noryx> but I don't need it so I don't know solution
[07:03] <Xerroz> surgy: is vncserver a service or application?
[07:03] <Sanne> I'm going to reformat a partition on a serial ata drive (sda10) to ext3, it now has fat32, but it's partition id is already set to 83 from a partitioning stage already done. Is this procedure correct: unmount the partition, then do: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda10, then edit fstab to reflect the changes?
[07:03] <surgy> Xerroz: its whatever, currently im using x11vnc which is a server program
[07:04] <surgy> it was easy in windows i just add it to services had it start automaticly and im done, why is it so hard here?
[07:04] <noryx> Sanne: I think that It should work
[07:05] <Sanne> noryx: than you :)
[07:05] <noryx> Sanne: of course then mount -a >;-)
[07:05] <Sanne> noryx: yep, mount all according to new fstab, correct?
[07:05] <noryx> Sanne: you should create reiserfs. I think that it is better
[07:06] <Sanne> noryx: I won't ;)
[07:06] <noryx> yes
[07:06] <noryx> OK. I must go now and make my coffe
[07:07] <noryx> brb
[07:07] <Sanne> noryx: I won't do any experiments on that computer. It's my husband's who will have his first try at Linux. I'd like to get him the most reliable configuration possible, and from what I read, it's still ext3.
[07:08] <Xerroz> surgy: sudo echo "vncserver" > /etc/init.d/vncserver
[07:08] <Xerroz> surgy: should load the program at boot
[07:08] <igorjr> !logitech
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <compilerwriter1> Dr_willis are you there?
[07:09] <Xerroz> surgy: read http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/startup.html for more assistance
[07:40] <fyrmedic> Is there a command to help e figure out what the MAC add. is on my wlan0?
[07:40] <tsdgeos> ifconfig?
[07:41] <fyrmedic> thanks
[07:43] <surgy> !autostart
[07:43] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> kcontrol-autostart   is a handy package to install
[07:45] <Dr_willis> well every 10 min the wife is hollering at me to go do somthing for her.. now the day is gone.. and i got to go to work..
[07:45] <KaoticEvil> anyone know how to change the bootsplash screen and would lend me a hand doing the same?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> cant do imporntant stuff... like hang on irc. :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> !splash
[07:45] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[07:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm. :)
[07:45] <KaoticEvil> err
[07:45] <Dr_willis> wonder if that tool works under kde also.
[07:45] <KaoticEvil> what about for KDE? :P
[07:45] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[07:45] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:45] <KaoticEvil> ty :)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> i DISABLE that idiotic splash stuff.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> im hard-kore
[07:46] <KaoticEvil> lol i like it
[07:46] <KaoticEvil> i like it when my system runs good AND looks good
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Its useless.. and you can be sitting there wondering whats going on...  while its scanning the disks.. or spewing out some error messages.. that you cant see.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> that happened to me last week.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:47] <Dr_willis> dident notice the machine sitting there for half a day... still 'looking' like it was booting.
[07:47] <KaoticEvil> i wanna add my own art to it
[07:47] <chavo> Dr_willis, if an error comes up the splash goes away
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Now the login/splashs's that have the image at top. and text messages at the bottom . are ok.
[07:47] <surgy> im not seeing anything in kcontrol to change my autostart
[07:47] <KaoticEvil> thats what i got
[07:47] <surgy> and i installed that package
[07:47] <Dr_willis> chavo,  these dident.. it was some hard drive failure.
[07:47] <surgy> nevermind i found it
[07:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:48] <Dr_willis> need a Kcontrol thing to make a link or script. :)
[07:48] <Dr_willis> actually that may make actual desktop files.
[07:48] <kubuntu> will anyone please giv me there choice of desktop so i can write a report for college thanks
[07:49] <Dr_willis> yep it makes a .desktop entry in the Autostart dir
[07:50] <KaoticEvil> hmmmmmmmmm
[07:50] <KaoticEvil> maybe not
[07:51] <KaoticEvil> ok, thanks Dr_willis :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[07:51] <Dr_willis> heh...
[07:51] <Dr_willis> ack 10 min till i gotta go to work. :(
[07:56] <surgy> i added x11vnc -forever to my autostart in kcontrol and now im recieving this error The desktop entry file /home/surgy/.kde/Autostart/vncserver.desktop has no Type=... entry.
[07:57] <surgy> can someone help?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> no idea.. i would just use a simple script
[07:57] <Dr_willis> not an  .desktop file
[07:57] <Dr_willis> somthing like.... (2 lines)
[07:58] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[07:58] <Dr_willis> x11vnc -forever
[07:58] <Dr_willis>  copy to a file in the Autostart dir.. chmod +x it.
[07:58] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. bye
[07:59] <surgy> i made a simple script in /etc/init.d called vncserver.sh and in the script all it has is /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever and it seams to do nothing
[08:00] <agente2012> hi all
[08:02] <sparrw> i have a flash drive that is going bad.  i would like to do as thorough of a recovery of the data on it as possible.  what tools can i use that will retry on read errors and use something like ask-me-thrice redundant reads?
[08:03] <Sanne> surgy: you need also an appropriate link to the script from /etc/rc<n>.d (where <n> is the runlevel). See 'man init' and also the README in /etc/init.d (disclaimer: this is on Dapper, dunno for Edgy)
[08:04] <fdoving> Sanne: that's only true when you want something to start before you login. at login things are managed in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[08:06] <kubuntu> anybody
[08:06] <Sanne> fdoving: right, I assumed that's what surgy wanted to do, putting a script in /etc/init.d. I didn't pay attention to the any previous conversation, sorry. surgy, don't mind me :)
[08:07] <Sanne> kubuntu: my choice of desktop? Kubuntu :)
[08:09] <kubuntu> thank u how cum
[08:09] <Sanne> kubuntu: I don't understand you... sorry
[08:10] <kubuntu> how come you picked kde over gnome
[08:10] <bonbonthejon> KDE is more integrated, more uniform look
[08:11] <jake_> guys what command do you useto fix the adept?
[08:11] <Sanne> kubuntu: ah :) I like the configurability of Kde better than the simplicity of Gnome. Also I just love Konqueror as a file manager and Kate as a text editor. There are some gtk apps I still use under Kde, though, like Gimp and Inkscape, which suit my workflow better than the Kde counterparts Krita and Karbon.
[08:12] <bonbonthejon> !aptfix | jake_
[08:12] <ubotu> jake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:12] <kubuntu> your rite there i am the same
[08:14] <Sanne> kubuntu: also, somehow Kubuntu is (or feels?) faster on my system than Ubuntu, like, for example, scrolling large text in the editors kate/gedit.
[08:14] <jake_> guys im new to kubuntu, ive installed it 2 days ago, and i noticed that after a couple of hours my machine getting slower and slower
[08:15] <kubuntu> tru so so how wood u rate kde and wood u ever switch
[08:15] <Sanne> kubuntu: as I'm spending a significant time of my computer life inside either the file manager or the text editor, those are important aspects for me.
[08:16] <kubuntu> ok
[08:16] <kubuntu> thanks sanna
[08:16] <Sanne> kubuntu: I don't think I would switch (at least not as the situation is now, dunno what happens if the projects change). I used Ubuntu/Gnome once and wuite liked the elegance, but I'd still rather have too much config options than too little.
[08:17] <jake_> guys anybody had the same experience with their comps?
[08:17] <kubuntu> ok wot do u think of the over kde software like kopete and ktorrent
[08:18] <Sanne> jake_: never
[08:19] <Sanne> kubuntu: never used those two, sorry.
[08:19] <bonbonthejon> kopete and ktorrent are good
[08:19] <bonbonthejon> jake_: what are you running
[08:20] <kubuntu> thanks bonbon and sanna wot torrent client do u use if u dont mind me askin
[08:20] <jake_> ive searched the forums through the internet and many comments that ubuntu runs faster than kubuntu, so i thought i would switch to ubuntu but ubuntu cant install in my system
[08:20] <Sanne> jake_: you can see with ksysguard if there are processes using up your cpu.
[08:21] <jake_> bonbonthejon: im using only dreambook p3 191ram
[08:21] <Sanne> jake_: you can install ubuntu-desktop alongside kde to get both :). You should then be able to chose your desktop at login.
[08:21] <bonbonthejon> jake_: no, what programs, if you run too much it will slow down, and you dont have much memory already
[08:21] <_johny> Hey guys, I've just reinstalled Kubuntu, but i can't login into the kde, after putting username and password i'm getting "could not start kstartupconfig, check your installation"
[08:22] <metres> Hi all, I have a game (crack-attack) which seems to use the GTK instead of the QT library.... do anyone knows how to fix that ?
[08:23] <bonbonthejon> metres: you can't "fix" it, you can install gtk along with qt
[08:23] <kubuntu> any advice on geting Azureus working
[08:23] <jake_> bonbonthejon: im not using too much program, maximum programs i use is 4 programs, but ive notice that when im browsing the internet there it goes my system getting slower
[08:23] <metres> bonbonthejon : the game display has changed... I want it to use QT...
[08:24] <bonbonthejon> jake_: did you disable ipv6 yet
[08:24] <Sanne> _johny: just a quick google, so dunno if it helps, but have a look: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=31577
[08:24] <bonbonthejon> metres: the only way to change it would be to rewrite the source code
[08:25] <metres> bonbonthejon : so it use GTK if it's possible..
[08:25] <Kwipper> Okay. I am having a problem in kubuntu
[08:25] <bonbonthejon> metres: if you installed the game and it needed gtk it should have installed the dependencies
[08:25] <bonbonthejon> Kwipper: ask the question
[08:25] <jake_> bonbonthejon: no i havent, honestly im a newbie, i have no idea about ipv6
[08:25] <chavo> _johny, did you have your /home on a seperate partition?
[08:25] <Sanne> _johny: also here, on ubuntuforums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370196&highlight=could+kstartupconfig
[08:25] <bonbonthejon> !ipv6 | jake_
[08:25] <bonbonthejon> jake_: that should speed up browsing a little
[08:26] <ubotu> jake_: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:26] <Tibmol> ERROR: Unknown option: idp --- what does this mean---
[08:26] <Kwipper> I am trying to install Kubuntu from DVD and when I get to the disk partition part (where you select how big you want your new partition to be) after I click on "Continue >" it does nothing. I have been waiting for the applicaiton to do something now for over 30 minutes, but it hasn't moved from this screen. The only option I can click on is "Cancel". Everything else is greyed out. Also my mouse shows the "waiting" sign.
[08:27] <cefx_> okay, I have a really serious problem on a machine I have important data on.  Is someone free to dedicate their attention to it? I'm sick of random answers in #ubuntu.
[08:27] <Tibmol> i get this error when i try to extract rar files...
[08:27] <Tibmol> ERROR: Unknown option: idp
[08:27] <bonbonthejon> Kwipper: try the alt. install cd, it works better
[08:27] <jake_> it says "bash: !ipv6: event not found"
[08:27] <Kwipper> The alt install CD? What do you mean?
[08:27] <bonbonthejon> jake_: go to the web site
[08:28] <bonbonthejon> Kwipper: download the alternative install cd
[08:28] <bonbonthejon> cefx_: describe the problem
[08:28] <Kwipper> Where is it at?
[08:28] <Kwipper> Can I have a direct link to the ISO?
[08:28] <bonbonthejon> Kwipper: look on the ubuntu website
[08:29] <Kwipper> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:29] <Kwipper> I am trying to install Kubuntu. Does Kubuntu have an alternative install CD?
[08:29] <cefx_> bonbonthejon: I followed the nvidia help page in ubuntu to upgrade my video driver before installing Beryl, and it has subsequently rendered my Kubuntu install inoperable.  Ctrl+Alt+F# will not bring me to a shell screen.
[08:29] <cefx_> I cannot access anything.
[08:29] <cefx_> I cannot ssh to the box.
[08:29] <Sanne> Kwipper: yes, there's also the alternate cd for Kubuntu, I'm using it always
[08:29] <jake_> i think my machine cant handle kubuntu, so im thinking switching to ubuntu, but when i try to install, i get the message" error in dameon settings, some themes ,sound may not work properly
[08:30] <Kwipper> Okay.
[08:30] <Kwipper> Thanks
[08:30] <bonbonthejon> Kwipper: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[08:30] <cefx_> oh thank god
[08:30] <cefx_> i just got in via ssh
[08:30] <bonbonthejon> jake_: try xubuntu, it is lightwieght
[08:30] <chavo> jake_, ubuntu isnt faster or less resource demanding than kubuntu
[08:31] <cefx_> bonbonthejon: thanks a bunch man, just so frustrated right now.
[08:31] <bonbonthejon> cefx_: didnt do anything, but glad to help
[08:33] <cefx_> bonbonthejon: eh, the notion that you'd focus on the problem and help was a relief :)
[08:33] <bonbonthejon> cefx_: i tried beryl once, but my graphics card is poor so I removed it
[08:33] <sparrw> when i use xrandr to rotate my display, my windows reshape but the visible area doesnt, so they appear cut off in the newly enlarged direction.  whats up with that?
[08:34] <cefx_> i'm fearful that something else i did
[08:34] <cefx_> is fucking up
[08:34] <cefx_> i'm just getting a black screen with a small unnatural resolution
[08:34] <cefx_> I don't know wtf is wrong
[08:36] <cefx_> god
[08:36] <bonbonthejon> cefx_: if you can ssh, and if you backed up xorg.conf, you can copy it back
[08:36] <cefx_> that was close
[08:36] <cefx_> yeah
[08:36] <cefx_> thank god xconfig backed it up
[08:36] <cefx_> heh
[08:37] <jake_> guys i really appreciate your response
[08:38] <bonbonthejon> jake_: i would suggest xubuntu, its lightweight, so it should do better on your machine than kubuntu
[08:40] <aib> has anyone configured OSX style F9, F10, F11 style window viewing?
[08:40] <bonbonthejon> aib: what do you mean
[08:41] <aib> push F9 and you get smaller versions of all opened windows, easily viewable on one screen
[08:41] <bonbonthejon> aib: if you want like expose, then look into kompose
[08:41] <bonbonthejon> !kompose
[08:41] <ubotu> kompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB
[08:41] <SSJ_GZ_> kwin4 will have a proper, hardware accelerated version of this
[08:42] <SSJ_GZ_> (In fact, it already does)
[08:42] <Goliath23> hi
[08:42] <bonbonthejon> hi
[08:43] <Goliath23> somehow moving and resizing of windows is pretty slow on my pc. too slow for my feeling. I have a Nvidia 6800 LE with latest beta drivers. Athlon 2500+ (1.8ghz) and glx works ... but the 2d performance is way to slow I think. any ideas?
[08:43] <Goliath23> RenderAccel is turned on in xorg.conf
[08:44] <sparrw> Goliath23: you realize that most modern 3d cards have really shitty 2d acceleration right?  like, 1990-era speeds
[08:45] <sparrw> Goliath23: for 2d accel, id take a 10 year old matrox over a geforce [anything] 
[08:45] <sparrw> Goliath23: what you should probably do if it really bothers you is try beryl/compiz, which uses 3d acceleration too handle the 2d stuff on the desktop
[08:46] <Goliath23> sparrw: it's fast enough on windows and I have the feeling it was faster on linux as well. with the same hardware. but that's just a feeling.
[08:47] <Goliath23> beryl/compix is even worse in resizing (though moving windows is really fast) but beryl has other bugs I don't like to have aroung. I better wait for next generation kwin...
[08:48] <Goliath23> i think that dragging a window in front of a firefox or konqueror window should have extreme trails on my kind of hardware, right?
[08:48] <Goliath23> s/should/should not/
[08:50] <LycanNyc-work> Everytime I start KDE.. or open any apps .. Could not find mime type - application/octet-stream
[08:50] <pz51> Salut cher(e) ami(e)
[08:50] <pz51> Comment allez-vous ?
[08:53] <AMSmith42> !fr
[08:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Can I force the mouse to reinitialize?
[08:53] <DaSkreech>  without the mouse? :)
[08:53] <AMSmith42> lol Interesting.
[08:56] <pulaski> hello
[08:58] <pulaski> I was using adept manager to grap the democracyler and it crashed with a messag something to the effect that "changes could not be committed....."
[08:58] <pulaski> when I try to run it again I get a message: "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[08:59] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[08:59] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:59] <pulaski> yes that is the problem and I will try that
[08:59] <pulaski> thank you ubotu
[09:00] <bonbonthejon> !ubotu
[09:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:01] <squall9900> hellp me i n00b
[09:01] <AMSmith42> Is there a Belarc-ish program that will tell me which chipset I have?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !help
[09:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> AMSmith42: chipset for what
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> squall9900: tell us the problem
[09:02] <AMSmith42> bonbonthejon: Motherboard
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> AMSmith42: "sudo lshw" will give lots of hardware info
[09:03] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[09:03] <pulaski> hmmm Thanks aga ubotu, It seemed to continue installing the app I wanted but left me with the cryptic message: "Errors were encountered while processing: semantic"
[09:04] <pulaski> thou it looks like my app got set up ok.
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:04] <DaSkreech>  Why can't I mkdir somedir-*/newdir ?
[09:05] <squall9900> my movies have pitcher but no sound
[09:05] <pulaski> I'm going to try the app...seemst to be working... thanks again ubotu
[09:05] <bonbonthejon> squall9900: what file type, what player
[09:05] <smile> hi
[09:06] <sparrw> DaSkreech: does somedir-* evaulate to more than one dir?
[09:06] <bonbonthejon> hi smile
[09:06] <DaSkreech> What should I do if X starts up and the mouse works but when the DM kicks in it dies?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> sparrw: Yes
[09:06] <smile> i hav a problem in my keybord ... i can write the letter " n" .... i use cop & past !!
[09:06] <sparrw> DaSkreech: if so, try this:  for i in somedir-*; do mkdir $i/newdir; done
[09:06] <smile> it works fine in windows !
[09:06] <squall9900>  avi and kaffeine
[09:06] <DaSkreech> sparrw: Ok :)
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> !avi me
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avi me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> !avi
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <SpAwN> !avi | bonbonthejon
[09:07] <ubotu> bonbonthejon: please see above
[09:07] <DaSkreech> sparrw: want to help with the mouse ? :)
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> !avi | squall9900
[09:07] <ubotu> squall9900: please see above
[09:07] <sparrw> DaSkreech: sorry, no clue
[09:07] <squall9900> yes avi
[09:08] <timster> !wireless
[09:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:08] <squall9900> i download it
[09:08] <bonbonthejon> !avi | squall9900
[09:08] <ubotu> squall9900: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <DaSkreech> !wpa
[09:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:10] <DaSkreech> I_Eat_Plastic: you are going to be sick
[09:10] <I_Eat_Plastic> DaSkreech: Just a little.
[09:10] <squall9900> but mpg and mpeg work but have no sound
[09:10] <_johny> You know a command for add a user to all the groups?
[09:11] <bonbonthejon> _johny: add a user to all groups, that sounds like a security threat
[09:11] <_johny> bonbonthejon: uhm
[09:12] <squall9900> sorry got to go but thanks for the help
[09:12] <_johny> bonbonthejon: It's not reccomended?
[09:12] <adry90> hi
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> _johny: what are you trying to do that you need to be in all the user groups
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> hi adry90
[09:12] <I_Eat_Plastic> !nvidia
[09:12] <adry90> i'm italian...are there another italian?
[09:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> !it | adry90
[09:12] <ubotu> adry90: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:13] <highbrow> is it true that nvidia is more linux friendly then ati?
[09:13] <I_Eat_Plastic> highbrow: Indeed
[09:13] <I_Eat_Plastic> ATI makes the most horrible drivers in the world.
[09:13] <highbrow> ok
[09:13] <I_Eat_Plastic> Windows and *nix alike.
[09:14] <igorjr> hi
[09:14] <igorjr> if have a problem with the video-playback of an mpg file
[09:14] <igorjr> it's really slow and shabby
[09:15] <igorjr> got anybody a suggestion?
[09:16] <igorjr> !mpg
[09:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <joel> nvidia linux friendly? my gut get quesy saying that >:)
[09:17] <DaSkreech> !mouse
[09:17] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:17] <|Cugel|> People, whenever I start kate etc. from the command line I get a warning message "WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/pgp-keys"  -- anyone know what it means or how I can fix that?
[09:18] <bonbonthejon> |Cugel|: you dont have an icon for pgp-keys, you can ignore it
[09:18] <chavo> |Cugel|, all kde apps spit out a lot of harmless errors on commandline, run kdebugdialog and press unselect all, to turn this off
[09:19] <|Cugel|> Yeah I know, thanks anyway -- I just hate those little warnings :-)
[09:19] <chavo> |Cugel|, you can turn them off ^^^
[09:20] <|Cugel|> Indeed -- thanks.
[09:20] <joel> ...but, their [nvidias driver]  is evolving at least.
[09:20] <joel> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/    <--- now that's linux friendly!
[09:21] <joel> *wails* But oh, Intel! Why do you start with EFI?! The horror! waaaah!
[09:21] <bonbonthejon> chavo: i tried that but i still get errors starting kate, does it only work after restart
[09:22] <chavo> bonbonthejon, it should work immediately, as long as you hit ok or apply also
[09:22] <chavo> bonbonthejon, there are some other errors that x may throw out also
[09:22] <bonbonthejon> chavo: ah, its x errors
[09:22] <Ret1n4l> anyone have icons in feisty's system settings that are the default blank icon?
[09:22] <chavo> which are just as harmless
[09:23] <chavo> bonbonthejon, they come from unused Devide sections in your xorg.conf
[09:23] <chavo> Device*
[09:23] <bonbonthejon> chavo: gotcha
[09:23] <chavo> such as the tablet
[09:23] <chavo> comment them out and they errors should go away
[09:24] <ciberparque> hello , friends
[09:24] <chavo> helloo!
[09:24] <|Cugel|> hello ciber.
[09:25] <ciberparque> anyone here know how install the hydrogen in the kubuntu?
[09:26] <Ret1n4l> hello, everyone.
[09:27] <ciberparque> hello , retn
[09:27] <ciberparque> do you know how to install the hydrogen in the kubuntu?
[09:27] <bonbonthejon> !hydrogen
[09:27] <ubotu> hydrogen: Simple drum machine/step sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2 (edgy), package size 3267 kB, installed size 9192 kB
[09:28] <Ret1n4l> hey, ciber*
[09:28] <Ret1n4l> do you know of a way to set my icon right in system settings for wine?
[09:29] <frojnd> has anyone had similar problem than me: I can't play vmw files with embedded mplayer plugin... what codecs do I need to install especially for mplayer to play vmw files?
[09:29] <bonbonthejon> !w32codecs
[09:29] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:29] <Ret1n4l> you may also find help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:34] <jake_> hello again guys, since my comp is running slower in kubuntu im planning to install the lightweight version the xubuntu, but my cd reading is poor too, ive read through xubuntu website that its possible to install xubuntu if you're running kubuntu or ubuntu, my question nowthat it is possible to uninstall kubuntu after the installation?
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: xubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop in a konsole
[09:35] <me2win> jake_: if you download the package xubuntu-desktop, thatll do it for ya. Might wanna try regular ubuntu too before going all the way to xubuntu.
[09:36] <jake_> Admiral_Chicago: i mean is it possible to uninstall the kubuntu desktop after i install the xubuntu? beacause im running out of space
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: yup. sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <gemidjy> in feisty, how do u enable/disable the new double click icon effect ?
[09:37] <jake_> ive tried to install ubuntu but it it didnt work, maybe my video card doesntfit
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop is even better
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> gemidjy: not sure, try #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <gemidjy> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[09:38] <jake_> Admiral_Chicago: but it only uninstalls kubuntu desktop how about the other apps?
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: its a meta package. it will do the other apps as well
[09:39] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: No it wont
[09:39] <DaSkreech> aptitude will oh .. wait
[09:39] <DaSkreech>  just caught up :)
[09:39] <frojnd> how should I rename those 2 repos so I can update and get new packages: 1) deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main 2) deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections
[09:39] <DaSkreech> jake_: You can try sudo aptitude remove kdelib4c2a
[09:39] <DaSkreech> that will blow away all of KDE
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: haha.
[09:40] <me2win> lol
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: have you tried sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <CShadowRun> anyone know of any virtual dvd drive software for linux?
[09:41] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: yes but there was an error
[09:41] <CShadowRun> so i can load a iso image like a normal cd (Virtual CloneDrive is a windows example)
[09:41] <jake_> Admiral_Chicago: ok thanx ill post it here ifi will succed, btw, if xubuntu is lights does it mean that u have a limited apps to use?
[09:41] <thomax> CShadowRun: mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/isoimage
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: yes and no. you can use as little or as many apps you want. you can run amarok on xubuntu for example but its not installed
[09:41] <CShadowRun> [thomax-> thanks
[09:41] <jake_> or it runs exactlylike ubuntuor kubuntu?
[09:41] <thomax> CShadowRun: np
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> no installed by default*
[09:42] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8829/
[09:43] <jake_> Admiral_Chicago:"yes and no. you can use as little or as many apps you want. you can run amarok on xubuntu for example but its not installed" sorry i dont understand
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> jake_: that means you will start with a smaller base, but you can install programs on top of it.
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: looking now
[09:44] <me2win> jake_: you can run as many apps as you want with xubuntu, but by default not too many will come on it, to prevent people who have smaller hard drives from overloading witht hings they dont need. it has a smaller install base you can expand easier
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <jake_> ah ok, thanx guys
[09:45] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8830/
[09:47] <Ret1n4l> ok. thanks for talking. I'll pass on the fix when I figure it out
[09:47] <Gh0st75> hi, what program do most folks use for their ipods in kubuntu?
[09:48] <crdlb> Gh0st75, amarok ?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> what i would use
[09:48] <Gh0st75> thanks
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8831/\
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8831/
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> second one.
[09:49] <jake_> my machine laptop is DreamBook PIII 191 with savage mmx, does it fit with xubuntu?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> then do sudo apt-get update
[09:49] <johey> How can I change the default web browser to Firefox?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yea. probably
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> johey: go to system setting >> default applications
[09:50] <sparrw> jake_: xubuntu should run on almost anything  :)  are you having problems?
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> then look at web browser and put this command firefox -remote "openURL(%u,new-tab)"
[09:50] <johey> Admiral_Chicago: Ah. Smart. :)
[09:50] <me2win> anybody know how i can set knetwork manager to remember my wpa keys so i dont have to reset them everytime
[09:51] <I_Eat_Plastic> Is it possible to reset your root password?
[09:51] <sparrw> I_Eat_Plastic: yes
[09:51] <jake_> no, im just planning to install xubuntu, im kubuntu now but my comp getting slower after a couple of hour
[09:52] <I_Eat_Plastic> sparrw: Please tell me how, I've just installed, and It seems the root pw is missing
[09:52] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: again some error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8832/ even though I tryed: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466  and than gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add - which is on official page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:52] <johey> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks alot! It works nice.
[09:52] <sparrw> I_Eat_Plastic: there is no root pw on normal kubuntu
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> johey: good
[09:52] <sparrw> I_Eat_Plastic: and there shouldnt ever be
[09:52] <jake_> sparrw:no, im just planning to install xubuntu, im running kubuntu now but my comp getting slower after a couple of hour
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: hmm, the repositories may be down
[09:52] <frojnd> ok I'll try another ones
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: wait nvm
[09:52] <sparrw> jake_: should work fine.  there are other window managers you could use as well, you dont have to switch to a different *ubuntu
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm a fool, forgot to do something
[09:53] <I_Eat_Plastic> sparrw: Well, i'm locked out of su. That's my real problem.
[09:53] <sparrw> I_Eat_Plastic: sudo -i
[09:53] <jake_> sparrw: what do youmean?
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: why are you using Seveas' repository (so i can put the right information)
[09:53] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: couse there are w32codecs
[09:54] <frojnd> couse, I can't play vmw files with mplayer embedded plugin
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: kk sec
[09:54] <tjansson> Every time I upload anything in Firefox the filemanager shows all the hidden files which is very annoying -- how do I turn it off?
[09:54] <sparrw> jake_: replacing kubuntu-desktop with xubuntu-desktop really just changes the default window manager and desktop environment.  you can stop using kde without actually deleting it.  start up adept and install the "icewm" or "openbox" packages, then when you log in next time use the SESSIONS menu to pick the new wm
[09:55] <sparrw> jake_: there are official ubuntu "versions" for gnome, kde, and xfce.  but there are dozens of other window managers you can try without switching ubuntus
[09:55] <Sanne> tjansson: do you mean in Konqueror? Menu, View, Show Hidden Files, or F11
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8834/
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that one
[09:56] <tjansson> Sanne: No in the filemanager which firefox uses - I guess it is nautilus eventhough I run kubuntu
[09:56] <jake_> sparrw: oh sorry, im new to linux world, now its clear, but how do get this WMs?
[09:56] <igorjr> !ati
[09:56] <Sanne> tjansson: the file open and save dialogs?
[09:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <tuco> Guys something funny here. When I open Firefox or an application x, the icon in question appears in the window on the panel. But then it dissapears and I can't click on the icon again, even thougheverything that is still open shows up in the window!
[09:57] <tjansson> Sanne: yes exept that I noticed it when attaching files to an email on gmail
[09:57] <tuco> I want to have the icons again all fully displayed on the panel
[09:58] <Kurtber> I have just installed Kubuntu 6.06. Wireless Assistant finds my network, but can't connect to it, even though I have entered the correct key (I checked several times)...
[09:58] <frojnd> Admiral_Chicago: tnx
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> it work?
[09:58] <jake_> sparrw: after i installed those WMs where can i modifyit?
[09:59] <Gh0st75> hmm, amarok tells me the ipod is a read only file system
[09:59] <Sanne> tjansson: in the gnome file dialogs, try to right click in the file view area, there should be an option.
[09:59] <otranto00> sera
[09:59] <otranto00> qualcuno c'e'?
[10:00] <otranto00> per aiutarmi=
[10:00] <otranto00> =?
[10:00] <tuco> Anybody can help :-(?
[10:00] <tjansson> Sanne: great! that was it! :D thx alot - hope it will save the setting when closing :D
[10:00] <Sanne> tjansson: I'm using the firefox standard dialogs though, like them better.
[10:00] <otranto00> sorry
[10:00] <otranto00> for kubuntu italy?
[10:01] <sparrw> jake_: on the login screen, click 'sessions' (or 'options', i forget which) and youll see it
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> tuco: ask
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !it
[10:01] <kwipper> I just got  kubuntu installed
[10:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:01] <tuco> I did Admiral :-)
[10:01] <tjansson> Sanne: how do you change them?
[10:01] <kwipper> What is the best way to install nvidia drivers?
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, hmm, not sure how to help. just saw it
[10:02] <tuco> Cam I get help Admiral?
[10:02] <kwipper> Is it as simple as going to Nvidia's website, downloading the driver executable, clicking on it, then following the on-screen prompts to get everything set up?
[10:02] <tjansson> Sanne: and btw it did save the setting when restarting firefox
[10:02] <jake_> ok thanx brb
[10:02] <Sanne> tjansson: I'll guide you (I hope it works for you, I have the manually installed firefox from mozilla org). Type "about:config" in firefox location bar (no quotes)
[10:02] <surgy> i figured out my vnc problem, seams like kde had everything i needed preinstalled, i just had to check two boxes
[10:03] <eean> kwipper: I've never done it on kubuntu... but I'm sure if you google there's a step by step guide
[10:03] <tjansson> Sanne: great :D, what setting need to be altered?
[10:03] <surgy> !nvidia | kwipper
[10:03] <ubotu> kwipper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:03] <tuco> I just can't get the icons on the panel back...they are in the small window but are not displayed along the panel anymore.
[10:03] <Sanne> type in the Filter line: platform_file_picker
[10:03] <surgy> kwipper just follow the how to and its easy
[10:04] <Sanne> tjansson: type in the Filter line: platform_file_picker
[10:04] <Sanne> tjansson: change Value to false
[10:04] <Sanne> tjansson: should work right away
[10:05] <tuco> damn it came back by itself...Huuuuh!
[10:05] <tjansson> Sanne: It did! that was great:D
[10:05] <kwipper> The instructions ask me for "Synaptic Package Manager"
[10:05] <kwipper> I don't have that application
[10:05] <surgy> kwipper use adept
[10:05] <surgy> kwipper: it does the sma ething
[10:05] <Sanne> tjansson: cool, eh? ;) I like that one better, but I must admit I do miss the bookmarks.
[10:06] <surgy> kwipper basicly you allready have the restricted modules unlocked so you can skip the part about the restricted repos
[10:07] <Kurtber> Where can I find a troubleshooting guide for network problems in Kubuntu?
[10:08] <sparrw> what other WMs can/do use KDE's menu files?
[10:09] <tjansson> Sanne: It is much prettier and fits KDE better
[10:09] <tjansson> :D
[10:09] <Sanne> tjansson: that's what I think also :)
[10:09] <I_Eat_Plastic> !avi
[10:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <surgy> I_Eat_Plastic: nice nick
[10:10] <excitatory> is it possible (and if so, is it safe) to mount a folder on a second hard drive in /media.  for example, mount the 'audio' folder on /dev/hde1 to /media/audio.  and then maybe mounting /dev/hde1/video to /media/video.  or is this better achieved through symlinks.. or?
[10:10] <I_Eat_Plastic> surgy: Thank you. :] 
[10:10] <surgy> excitatory: i think thats preference and doesnt matter either way
[10:11] <chavo> excitatory, you're going to have to use symlinks
[10:11] <Sanne> excitatory: I don't think you can mount folders. If you want to access a folder under another point in the file system, I would indeed use symlinks, I'll do that also for some folders.
[10:12] <_6StringKng_> so I changed resoultions when logged in as root, now my normal users resolution is crewed up and I cant change it back
[10:12] <_6StringKng_> screwed*
[10:13] <Kurtber> My network problem looks like this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wlassistant/+bug/64841,
[10:13] <Kurtber> But when I write "sudo ifup ra0" I'm only told "ifup: interface ra0 already  configured".
[10:13] <Kurtber> I still can't connect to my wireless network...
[10:13] <Kurtber> Can anyone help me?
[10:13] <surgy> !resolution
[10:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:13] <excitatory> surgy, chavo, Sanne, thank you.
[10:13] <surgy> excitatory: np
[10:13] <Sanne> excitatory: you're welcome :)
[10:17] <aztun> hi all
[10:18] <aztun> is there any place to sugges packages that Id like to be on repos on next release
[10:18] <aztun> ??
[10:18] <Kurtber> When I write "sudo dhclient ra0" I get "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"....
[10:18] <aztun> Kurtber, u are not conected to the lan or u have no dhcp on the lan
[10:19] <Lord_Maynoth> hey
[10:19] <jsteinman> Hi... I am new to Ubuntu... I just ran the upgrade on 6.10 now my linksys wireless card isn't being configured.
[10:19] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone here know anything about kde-config
[10:19] <jsteinman> Anyone seen this?
[10:19] <Lord_Maynoth> 32bit?
[10:20] <jsteinman> 32bit yes
[10:21] <Lord_Maynoth> does your wireless card work on the livecd for 6.10?
[10:21] <jsteinman> Yes it did
[10:21] <Lord_Maynoth> weird
[10:21] <BluesKaj> !wireless | jsteinman
[10:21] <ubotu> jsteinman: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:21] <Kurtber> aztun: There is a green light on my wireless card, and I have entered the cards MAC-address to the MAC-filter on my router... In addition, wlassistant can find the network - only not connect to it...
[10:22] <one> jemand hier mit plan von ffmpeg-php ?
[10:22] <one> ;-)
[10:22] <aztun> so u want have an ip until u connect to the lan
[10:22] <aztun> try iwconfig on console
[10:23] <BluesKaj> !de | one
[10:23] <ubotu> one: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:24] <one> yo sry wrong channel ;-)
[10:24] <lol_h> ok guys, I have spent pretty much the entire day to try to fix my problem and can't find anything.  I have a Win2k machine as a client going with a crossover cable into my Ubuntu which is connected to my router.  Ubuntu machine can connect online, ping Win2k and Win2k can ping Ubuntu but can't go online, what do I have to do?
[10:24] <jsteinman> If I reboot to the older kernel version it still works.. 2.6.17.10
[10:25] <Lord_Maynoth> sudo gcc_select 3.3  anyone know what that does?
[10:25] <jsteinman> On 2.6.17.11 it doesn't work
[10:26] <BluesKaj> lol_h, connect your Win2K pc to the router as well , don't bother with a crossover cable
[10:27] <Kurtber> When I write "iwconfig" I get "ra0    RT61 Wireless  ESSID: "togh" (...)" and a lot of information.. What am I looking for? :-p
[10:27] <lol_h> BluesKaj: that would be my first choice but I can't, it's physically impossible as the router is downstairs and my two machines are upstairs
[10:28] <lol_h> cable not long enough :(
[10:28] <Lord_Maynoth> jstein this is a long shot but have you thought about using a newer kernel?
[10:29] <Mr_Pan> i would like install a LAMP server on Kubuntu Feisty.. any suggestions?
[10:29] <Lord_Maynoth> I know my buddy made me a custom ubuntu iso with the 2.6.20.1 kernel and the new openoffice and gaim versions
[10:29] <BluesKaj> run DSL or cable , lol_h ?
[10:29] <Lord_Maynoth> it fixed a lot of issues
[10:29] <lol_h> DSL BluesKaj
[10:29] <cube> How do i get this Adiminstrator MODE off, Im tired of Typing my Pass already. tahnks
[10:29] <BluesKaj> do yo have a phone line nearby ?
[10:29] <lol_h> I feel like it could be something due to the Firewall or the ICS on Ubuntu but I'm not sure
[10:30] <lol_h> no
[10:30] <lol_h> hehe
[10:30] <BluesKaj> bummer
[10:30] <lol_h> I see you coming there
[10:30] <cpk1> !lamp | Mr_Pan
[10:30] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:30] <lol_h> :)
[10:31] <lol_h> !ics
[10:31] <erwin> http://www.drogendealer.de/cgi-bin/dd.cgi?z8nBe44s
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Kurtber> aztun: When I write "iwconfig" I get "ra0    RT61 Wireless  ESSID: "togh" (...)" and a lot of information.. What am I looking for? :-p
[10:33] <cube> why kubuntu keeps on asking for Admin passwords, ? how can i take this off. is so annoying is liek vista
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth> do you know what kcontrol is
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth> does it contain kde-config?
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> it contains the old system configurations for KDe-
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> which some people seem to like more than the newer layout
[10:34] <mikejr> i'm having trouble getting bcm4318 wireless to work; running feisty
[10:34] <mikejr> keep getting "authentication completed messages" in dmesg
[10:34] <aztun> sorry Kurtber, cant explain full iwconfig
[10:35] <aztun> read manual, search google and try to understand
[10:35] <aztun> :)
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> admiral do you know how I can install kde-config on ubuntu?
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure what that is
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> me neither
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[10:35] <BluesKaj> lol_h, I think the kubuntu pc has to be the internet server for the windows pc
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> im trying to compile a program
[10:35] <Kurtber> aztun: ok :-)
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> it says kde-config is missing
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> its not in the repositories?
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what program is it?
[10:36] <cpk1> Kurtber: do iwlist ra0 scan and then use iwconfig to fill in the information for your cell
[10:36] <lol_h> that's what it is at the moment, I get the internet on the Kubuntu pc and I try to get my windows via the crossover
[10:36] <lol_h> BluesKaj:
[10:37] <cpk1> lol_h: you are trying to share the internet from your kubuntu pc to another pc?
[10:38] <aztun> Kurtber: u can try iwconfig ra0 essid youressid && iwconfig ra0 enc yourwepkey
[10:38] <BluesKaj> yeah but there's setup config in the windows pc that has to be run ...but I'm not familiar with W2K so...
[10:38] <aztun> if u use wep
[10:38] <eagles0513875> lol how bout just putting kubuntu on the other machine
[10:38] <cpk1> there isnt any setup you would need to run on windows if kubuntu is the host
[10:39] <lol_h> tell me more cpk1
[10:39] <eagles0513875> would he have to enable internet connection sharing on the windows machine like u do in xp
[10:39] <cpk1> no, you dont you can set up a dhcp server on kubuntu and bind is supposed to forward dns for you as well
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:40] <lol_h> here is how it is: Internet <==> Kubuntu <= crossover cable => Windows2k
[10:40] <eagles0513875> lol blue do u have the dhcp setup as well as bind
[10:40] <Lord_Maynoth> ahh
[10:40] <Lord_Maynoth> the kde guys said I needed kdelibs
[10:40] <cube> Wow, i jsut isntalled kubuntu, and the audio player, amarok, doesnt play mp3....and that should be able to work, why it doesnt?
[10:40] <Lord_Maynoth> will that slow down my gnome more than usuall
[10:40] <lol_h> both machines can ping eachothers np
[10:40] <chavo> Lord_Maynoth, what are you trying to build?
[10:41] <cpk1> lol_h: yup should work fine you will need to set up a MASQUERADE rule for iptables and get dhcpd and bind and also change the contents of a file from 0 to 1
[10:41] <chavo> Lord_Maynoth, kdelibs won't get loaded until you run a kde program
[10:41] <cpk1> lol_h: hang on let me find you a walkthrough
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> ahh
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[10:41] <Lord_Maynoth> ktorrent 2.1.1
[10:41] <liquidat> Lord_Maynoth: If you have no idea of development libraries you most likely want to wait till the new package is released.
[10:42] <chavo> Lord_Maynoth, apt-get build-dep ktorrent will get you all you need to build it
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> oops
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> :c
[10:42] <cpk1> lol_h: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing ignore the stuff about wireless and what not since i dont think that applies to you and change the name of your devices as needed
[10:42] <liquidat> chavo: But not the newest version, will it?
[10:43] <chavo> liquidat, well 2.1 comes with kubuntu so can't be a very lareg difference with 2.1.1
[10:43] <lol_h> thx a lot cpk1, I'll read that right now and try to set it up
[10:44] <SolidSource> anyone know how to allow network printing through guarddog?
[10:44] <chavo> the only differneces are bug fixes and UI changes
[10:44] <liquidat> chavo: Well, bugfixes mainly, and for me there was a file change (a lib file, ktorrent-2.1.so changed to ktorrent-2.1.1.so). But you do have to add the sources by hand, don't you?
[10:44] <Sanne> Lord_Maynoth: to compile a kde app, you will need the libs and also the corresponding *-dev packages (development files). I guess you need kdelibs4-dev. You can read about it and uit's dependencies here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libdevel/kdelibs4-dev
[10:45] <chavo> I think he got hte sources from the website
[10:45] <SolidSource> !info guarddog >solidsource
[10:46] <SolidSource> !info iptables > solidsource
[10:46] <ahlalo_elyon> Hey, is it possible to disable my computer's reset button?
[10:46] <SolidSource> !iptables > solidsource
[10:46] <Lord_Maynoth> will it hurt anything just to install all the files that synaptic returns for kdelibs
[10:47] <cube> why CANT i play Mp3!? jesus,.. i cant believe this, if mp3 dont work for me with default, how am i supposed to do anything else
[10:47] <Lord_Maynoth> xmms?
[10:47] <crdlb> cube, wait till 2010 :D
[10:47] <SolidSource> cube: you have to install the codecs
[10:47] <crdlb> that's when the mp3 patent expires
[10:47] <Lord_Maynoth> woot
[10:47] <cube> ohhh
[10:47] <Lord_Maynoth> that will rock!
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> cube: mp3 is a patended format, legally Ubuntu can't ship with them.
[10:47] <Sanne> cube: mp3 is proprietary. Support can't egally be shipped with Kubuntu.
[10:48] <Sanne> :)
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[10:48] <cube> ohhh ok, thank you for that, didnt konw that
[10:48] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:48] <Lord_Maynoth> I got my codecs installed for me via automatix2...
[10:48] <jhutchins_wk> !mp3 | cube
[10:48] <ubotu> cube: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:48] <Lord_Maynoth> it was nice
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> cube: look at that link, add universe && multiverse
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Lord_Maynoth: oh god no.
[10:48] <crdlb> lol
[10:48] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[10:48] <ahlalo_elyon> !automatix | Lord_Maynoth
[10:48] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> breaks systems all day
[10:49] <posingaspopular> wizard: hey did you fix your box?
[10:49] <Lord_Maynoth> :c
[10:50] <ahlalo_elyon> Lord_Maynoth: Oh, and for the record, I believe that Feisty will install all those codecs by default (which it should if Ubuntu is supposed to be a system that "Just Works")
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ahlalo_elyon: no. it will make it very easy to install them, but not by default
[10:50] <ahlalo_elyon> ...because most of the things I use a computer for did NOT work when I first installed Edgy... had to do so much extra stuff.
[10:50] <ahlalo_elyon> Admiral_Chicago: Well, I guess that is still a step in the right direction...
[10:51] <tarnold> Solidsource:  whats the command to get gaim?
[10:51] <jhutchins_wk> ahlalo_elyon: Again, this is because of licensing, not because of brokenness.
[10:51] <ahlalo_elyon> tarnold: sudo apt-get install gaim
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> imo, a step in the right direction is using free formats
[10:51] <tarnold> i ran aptitude update.... and then aptitude install gaim
[10:51] <ahlalo_elyon> jhutchins_wk: No, I understand that... I didn't say it was broken, just didn't work ;)
[10:52] <SolidSource> tarnold: to install anything with apt-get or aptitude you must use the sudo
[10:52] <ahlalo_elyon> Admiral_Chicago: Until the rest of the computer industry adopts "free" formats as the standard, that isn't a very viable solution to getting Linux into the mainstream, though.
[10:52] <tarnold> and got some install untrusted something or other, and hit yes, and got some error
[10:52] <tarnold> i ran it with sudo
[10:52] <tarnold> ill try it again
[10:52] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can enable the mesa3d glx with my ati200m radeon xpress
[10:52] <jhutchins_wk> ahlalo_elyon: The thing is, if *ubuntu makes it too easy to install software that technically violates US law, then they open themselves to lawsuits.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> tarnold its sudo apt-get install gaim
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> either way, I can keep my system free. this is better for #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can enable the mesa3d glx with my ati200m radeon xpress i have tried proprietary driver and it still didnt work
[10:53] <jhutchins_wk> ahlalo_elyon: As long as it takes a deliberate, informed effort by the end user, it's not as dangerous for them.
[10:53] <tarnold> what if i want to use aptitude? i like that
[10:53] <ahlalo_elyon> jhutchins_wk: I was unaware that MP3 was illegal on other systems...
[10:53] <SolidSource> tarnold: you can, does the same thing
[10:53] <tarnold> MP3's are illegal?
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> no, they are patented.
[10:53] <crdlb> eagles0513875, what is the chip name, like R500 ?
[10:53] <jhutchins_wk> ahlalo_elyon: It's not so much illegal, as it requires a paid-for license.  Microsoft recently lost a suit over it, even though they had a license from one patent owner.
[10:53] <eagles0513875> R480
[10:53] <ahlalo_elyon> Admiral_Chicago: Right, but if you look at all the Windows apps that play MP3 files, they didn't ALL purchase a license for it... or are they breaking the law?
[10:54] <crdlb> eagles0513875, afaik that is way too new for the free drivers
[10:54] <jhutchins_wk> A different company in the U.S. had other rights to it, they sued Microsoft and won.
[10:54] <Lord_Maynoth> that apt-get build-dep is handy!   I never new it could do that...
[10:54] <jhutchins_wk> ahlalo_elyon: Yeah, they all purchased a license.
[10:54] <tarnold> ok gaim worked
[10:54] <eagles0513875> how do i double check crdlb
[10:54] <crdlb> eagles0513875, R300 support is still beta
[10:54] <tarnold> wooot
[10:54] <eagles0513875> @)#*%7
[10:54] <eagles0513875> my laptop is ovr a yr old
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ahlalo_elyon: windows came with an encoder that was illegal, had to pay a pretty penny for teh lawsuit
[10:54] <ahlalo_elyon> okay, yeah... this should be in #kubuntu-offtopic  I'm there if anyone cares to continue :)
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> decoder*
[10:54] <tarnold> now i connected to my wireless, but it didn't work, it said i had a connection but i had to jack a cable into it
[10:55] <Lord_Maynoth> do you think feisty will set up your secondary hard drive automatically instead of editing the fstab?
[10:55] <eagles0513875> how do i double check crdlb
[10:55] <crdlb> eagles0513875, it's listed here http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon
[10:55] <crdlb> eagles0513875, maybe it is supported
[10:55] <jhutchins_wk> Admiral_Chicago: Again, it wasn't illegal, it was just that their license from a Co. in Germany was rulled not to preclude the claim by a U.S. Co.
[10:55] <SolidSource> tarnold: if you are trying to use WPA...it won't work, though its supposed to work in feisty
[10:55] <Lord_Maynoth> I couldn't get it to work with ext3 so I had to go fat32 then use the diskmounter script
[10:55] <tarnold> nope WEP
[10:55] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i never said it was illegal. i said it was patented
[10:55] <eagles0513875> how do i check it in command line
[10:56] <eagles0513875> blues already tried binary
[10:56] <eagles0513875> didnt work
[10:56] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:56] <jhutchins_wk> [15:54]  <Admiral_Chicago> ahlalo_elyon: windows came with an encoder that was illegal,
[10:56] <tarnold> and i connected to my mates unsecured network, and it said I had a connection but nothing till i came down to plug it in
[10:56] <BluesKaj> no DRI , eagles0513875 ?
[10:56] <eagles0513875> i know mine supports it
[10:56] <Lord_Maynoth> here is a weird question... once I compile the source of a program how do I turn it into a deb for other people?
[10:56] <eagles0513875> i just need to know how to enable it
[10:56] <crdlb> eagles0513875,  glxinfo |grep "direct rendering"
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> eagles0513875: What's crdlb?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> i know it says indirect but let me check again
[10:57] <SolidSource> tarnold: hmm, if only I could remember how I got my wireless working
[10:57] <crdlb> jhutchins_wk, what?
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> Oh.
[10:57] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875,have you tried fgl_glxgears test in the term ?
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> N'mind, misread something.
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> crdlb: 'scuse.
[10:57] <eagles0513875> no and i will no says direct rendering is no
[10:58] <eagles0513875> how do i install the gears
[10:58] <crdlb> jhutchins, lol I see
[10:58] <crdlb> eagles0513875, just run glxgears
[10:58] <eagles0513875> they run flawlessly
[10:58] <goodseed> kubuntu pl ??
[10:58] <eagles0513875> wait
[10:58] <BluesKaj> well, that page worked for my xpress 200 ok ...had reboot to make it work .
[10:58] <eagles0513875> spoke to soon
[10:58] <goodseed> why # ?
[10:59] <eagles0513875> its really laggy
[10:59] <jhutchins_wk> !pl | goodseed
[10:59] <ubotu> goodseed: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:59] <crdlb> eagles0513875, I guess it's doing it off the cpu
[10:59] <eagles0513875> i got this message
[10:59] <eagles0513875> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown
[10:59] <eagles0513875> if the x died i wouldnt be on the desktop right now would i
[10:59] <jhutchins_wk> goodseed: The # indicates an officially affiliated support channel.
[10:59] <tarnold> solidsource: its why i still need windows, cos I can't get a constant wireless working in anywhere but my own home- and that before i went and reinstalled Kubuntu with larger partitions(and i don't know what i did, i just got ito to work)
[11:00] <eagles0513875> tar what kinda built in wifi u have
[11:01] <jhutchins_wk> tarnold: Wireless is very difficult to get working in OS software.  The card manufacturers are obliged to make it difficult for users to alter the frequency and power limits, and since OS software can by definition be changed...
[11:01] <eagles0513875> its a bitch to config my internal one
[11:01] <eagles0513875> i use a pcmcia one that works out of box
[11:01] <SolidSource> tarnold: I managed to get my wireless working flawlessly...but remember how....however better hardware support (especially wireless), I found that SuSE and Fedora did better
[11:01] <eagles0513875> crdlb what do u mean its doing it off the cpu
[11:01] <eagles0513875> suse didnt for me
[11:02] <jhutchins_wk> SuSE has deals with some propietary vendors.
[11:02] <crdlb> eagles0513875, opengl will render in software if hardware support isn't present
[11:02] <tarnold> solid source: so do you have SuSE?
[11:02] <eagles0513875> how do i enable hardware
[11:02] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, if you've upgraded any adept or synaptic repos , you may have in advertently restricted some of the fglrx modes
[11:02] <eagles0513875> interesting
[11:02] <tarnold> I've looked at other distros but am afraid of antying where i have to dl more then 1 disc
[11:02] <eagles0513875> crap
[11:02] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:02] <eagles0513875> how do i fix that blues
[11:02] <SolidSource> tarnold: I used it for a while, but I had wireless working in dapper no problem
[11:02] <tarnold> solidsource: its what attracted me to kubuntu
[11:02] <jhutchins_wk> eagles0513875: Generally speaking you use modprobe to insert the driver into the kernel, this usually enables the hardware.
[11:03] <eagles0513875> any step by steps
[11:03] <BluesKaj> go back to the page and start again, that's the only way i know how to fix it :(
[11:03] <eagles0513875> go back to what pg
[11:03] <jhutchins_wk> tarnold: Three disks is pretty standard these days, or two plus i18n.
[11:03] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[11:03] <crdlb> eagles0513875, I think you need to use ati's proprietary driver
[11:04] <tarnold> Jhutchins_wk: oh
[11:04] <jhutchins_wk> tarnold: Single-disk installers just download from the web.
[11:04] <crdlb> eagles0513875, have you read http://www.ensode.net/ati_radeon_xpress_200m_linux.html ?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> he will if he follows the instructions on the page
[11:04] <eagles0513875> i tried that yet it still didnt work
[11:04] <tarnold> Jhutchins_wk: i was looking at either FreeBSD, or Open SuSE but i know nothing about them, not that i know anything bout kubuntu
[11:05] <jhutchins_wk> tarnold: Take a look at Mandriva too, they're doing pretty well right now.  Excellent package availability, good stability and hardware support.
[11:05] <eagles0513875> u hit it right on the nail for me crdlb
[11:05] <eagles0513875> i think i figured out the problem
[11:06] <eagles0513875> crdlb to bad we couldnt give out any rep points u woudl get 10 from me
[11:06] <surgy> how do i mount a floppy disk?
[11:06] <SolidSource> floppies still exist?
[11:06] <surgy> yea
[11:06] <surgy> my mom had the bright idea of using one
[11:07] <eagles0513875> try sudo /media/fda
[11:07] <eagles0513875> try that surgy
[11:07] <SolidSource> floppies...I remember using them when I was 5
[11:07] <eagles0513875> lol ya same when i was in elementary school
[11:08] <SolidSource> even remember the 4 inch floppies....I miss my commador 64
[11:08] <Sanne> surgy: try first without sudo - I can mount my floppy as user
[11:09] <eagles0513875> !fr
[11:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:09] <eagles0513875> !mt
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <eagles0513875> !maltese\
[11:09] <surgy> sudo: /media/fda comand not found
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maltese\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <eagles0513875> !maltese
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maltese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Sanne> surgy: can you paste your /etc/fstab to the pastebin?
[11:09] <surgy> give me a sec
[11:10] <BluesKaj> !ma
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <surgy> my mind went blank..... fstab is in /etc/X11   ?
[11:11] <Sanne> surgy: no, just /etc/fstab
[11:11] <surgy> ahh ok
[11:11] <tarnold> ok riht so anyone have an idea on whyy a wireless would show connectivity and signal strength but I can't do anything?
[11:12] <surgy> thats a no go on the fstab but she only has one floppy drive and its ide so it should be name fda?
[11:12] <Kurtber> aztun: Sorry, I didn't see your message before now...  I tried it, and it seems nothing happened... I think... There were no messages in Konsole, and I still can't visit google.com in Konqueror...
[11:13] <eagles0513875> tar u probably dont have gateway
[11:13] <devildog> how do i register a nick on here?
[11:13] <aztun> Kurtber: u should look if iwconfig says its connected or not
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !register
[11:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:13] <devildog> thank you :)
[11:13] <aztun> just iwconfig ra0
[11:14] <Sanne> surgy: no, usually the device is /dev/fd0. You need to have a fstab in /etc ;). Let's look at the line for the floppy in there, so we can see how you can mount it.
[11:14] <surgy> sanne: i have an fstab but im doing this via vnc so i dont have the option of looking at the fstab
[11:14] <CShadowRun> uhh, kubuntu has decided it doesn't like the internet anymore
[11:15] <CShadowRun> its just on a standard network cable to my router, and its allways worked
[11:15] <Sanne> surgy: ah! Can you try at the command line: less /etc/fstab?
[11:15] <CShadowRun> what can i do? :(
[11:15] <surgy> sanne can i not just sudo mount -a ?
[11:16] <Sanne> surgy: if it's default and like Dapper, you should be able to do: mount /dev/fd0 or mount /media/floppy
[11:16] <kubuntu_alex> hei
[11:16] <kubuntu_alex> hello
[11:16] <kubuntu_alex> i need help
[11:16] <surgy> fstab line for floppy: /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto users,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[11:17] <eagles0513875> brb comp restart
[11:17] <Kurtber> aztun: It says "ra0  - RT61 Wireless  - ESSID: "togh"   (...)    Mode: Managed   -   Channel:11   -    Access Point: xx:xx:xx:xx(..)   ---  Bit Rate:1Mb/s  (...) Link Quality:89/70", and a lot more... To me it looks like it is connected, but I don't know...
[11:17] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know anything about unsermake or makeobj
[11:18] <Lord_Maynoth> I finished ./configure
[11:18] <Sanne> surgy: looks like as a user you can mount it. Try my suggestions, mount /dev/fd0 or /media/floppy or /media/floppy0
[11:18] <Lord_Maynoth> but when I do make it craps out and says to use unsermake or makeobj
[11:18] <SolidSource> is there no way to get thunderbird to run in the systemtray?
[11:18] <kubuntu_alex> can som one help me with kubuntu? my screen goes black when i start kubuntu
[11:18] <surgy> sanne:
[11:18] <surgy> sam@samantha:~$ sudo mount /media/floppy
[11:18] <surgy> mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[11:18] <slow-motion> n8
[11:18] <Sanne> surgy: ok, the fstab entry is borked
[11:19] <surgy> sanne so?
[11:19] <Sanne> surgy: I thought it was a typo, the first word "/dev/"
[11:19] <surgy> so i need to get rid of it?
[11:19] <Sanne> surgy: /dev is the folder for all the devices, it should be /dev/fd0 (at least if it's the same as my dapper)
[11:19] <MonkeySugah> hey room!'
[11:20] <MonkeySugah> I'm new here.. How are you all today>
[11:20] <surgy> sanne: wo what do i need to change?
[11:20] <chavo> great!
[11:20] <eagles0513875> whats the command line to run the gears again
[11:20] <CelestialDog> hi monkey :)
[11:20] <MonkeySugah> hi celestial, how are ya?
[11:20] <Sanne> surgy: change the first word "/dev/" to "/dev/fd0" (no quotes)
[11:20] <CelestialDog> glxgears i think
[11:20] <joel> CShadowRun: For increasing your chances, elaborate a bit what you mean by it "not like[s]  internet" anymore.
[11:20] <eagles0513875> ok ty
[11:21] <CelestialDog> not bad monkey hows yourself ?
[11:21] <CShadowRun> well i can't do a update, i can't visit websites on google
[11:21] <CShadowRun> i mean firefox
[11:21] <CShadowRun> and i can't use konquerer either, looks like the connection is completely down :(
[11:21] <joel> CShadowRun: Have you tried System settings --> Network Settings?
[11:21] <CShadowRun> its not a DNS problem, i know the routers working or else i wouldn't be talking ;p
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> CShadowRun: not completely if your on IRC
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[11:22] <tarnold> hey i was reading a book bout KDE 3.3 and whats kpersonalizer and is it sitll in 3.5?
[11:22] <MonkeySugah> i'm hangin in there.. tryin to get by.. this computer prog is very new to me..
[11:22] <CShadowRun> im on a diffrent machine here
[11:22] <CShadowRun> using my laptop to talk now :)
[11:22] <eagles0513875> ull love it monkey
[11:22] <joel> CShadowRun: Ah, driver or hardware error?
[11:22] <chavo> tarnold, it's there but disabled in kubuntu
[11:22] <CelestialDog> monkey you'll get the hang of it :)
[11:22] <MonkeySugah> yeah.. it's way difrent to say the least hah
[11:22] <tarnold> how, how come?
[11:22] <chavo> tarnold, the kubuntu-defaulk-settings is used instead
[11:22] <tarnold> ho*
[11:22] <surgy> Sanne: now it just hangs
[11:23] <CShadowRun> i doubt its a driver problem, because its been working for the past 5 days without a problem. its just a standard network card ubuntu picked it up automatically
[11:23] <chavo> kubuntu-default-settings
[11:23] <Sanne> surgy: after the mount command?
[11:23] <chavo> tarnold, so all the kubuntu desktops look alike by default
[11:23] <surgy> Sanne: yeah the cursor just moves down a line and does nothing
[11:23] <tarnold> chavo: so if its disabled, does that mean i can reenable it?
[11:23] <surgy> i typed: sudo mount /media/floppy0      i also tried floppy
[11:24] <Sanne> surgy: di it return to the prompt? Maybe it just got mounted? Can you type "mount"?
[11:24] <joel> CShadowRun: Well... for the most basic, 1) does it register in dmesg, 2) does the LED power up on both devices?
[11:24] <chavo> tarnold, you can jsut run kpersonalizer from the command line or do you want to enable it for new users as well/
[11:24] <surgy> Sanne: thats what i mean by "it hanged" it moved down a line and no prompt just stuck
[11:24] <tarnold> nope, just me
[11:24] <MonkeySugah> anyone know if the myspace im thing works with ubuntu ?
[11:24] <CShadowRun> [joel-> yea the LED shows up on the comp and the router, dunno what dmesg is
[11:24] <tarnold> chavo: how would i run it for just me then?
[11:24] <Sanne> surgy: ok. Hmmm. Is there a floppy in the drive?
[11:24] <chavo> sure
[11:25] <CShadowRun> in the network settings it says "eth0 | dhcp | Enabled Ethernet Network Device"
[11:25] <CelestialDog> i cant say monkey never heard of it
[11:25] <joel> CShadowRun: type it on a terminal, it shows kernel bootup messages.
[11:25] <joel> !dmesg
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <MonkeySugah> oh. well thanks
[11:25] <joel> Thanks ubotu
[11:25] <chavo> tarnold, hmm looks like they removed it altogether
[11:26] <CShadowRun> woa theres a hell of alot of stuff here
[11:26] <tarnold> oh
[11:26] <tarnold> damn
[11:26] <CShadowRun> it says "eth0: no IPv6 routers present"
[11:26] <CShadowRun> along with alot of other stuff
[11:26] <chavo> it's nothing that can't be accomplished with system settings or kcontrol tho
[11:26] <MonkeySugah> what about the limewire for linux? last time i had problems, it it working for any of you?
[11:26] <tarnold> chavo: how
[11:26] <tarnold> chavo: oh
[11:26] <joel> CShadowRun: Ignore that IPv6, should be normal if you dont have it.
[11:26] <Kurtber> aztun: Thank you for helping, but I have got to go to bed (getting up early in the morning) - I left a question on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080503.0, with all the information I could think of putting in it (:-)) -- So if you have an idea, please answer me there -- But thank you for helping so far!
[11:27] <tarnold> chavo: ok ill mess around wiht it
[11:27] <joel> CShadowRun: try: ifconfig
[11:27] <joel> It should show at least two interfaces.
[11:27] <chavo> tarnold, looks like kpersonalizer is in the repos, just not installed you can apt-get install it
[11:27] <CelestialDog> i haven't tried it on this install monkey but last time limewire worked fine for me
[11:27] <tarnold> ok
[11:27] <tarnold> hanx
[11:27] <CShadowRun> it shows 2 paragraphs full of info, eth0 is the top one and it says there are no errors
[11:27] <Sanne> surgy: I just mounted a floppy successfully here with "mount /media/floppy"
[11:27] <chavo> all it does is ask a couple of question about look and feel for your desktop
[11:28] <MonkeySugah> ok. i'll have to try again
[11:28] <CShadowRun> the other one below that is called 'lo'
[11:28] <surgy> Sanne: thnx a million man its fixed now
[11:28] <Sanne> surgy: how did you do it?
[11:28] <joel> CShadowRun: that's your localhost, ip 127.0.0.1 or something similar.
[11:28] <CShadowRun> yea it is
[11:29] <surgy> Sanne: just switched the disk to write protection, copied everything off of it and threw it away
[11:29] <Sanne> surgy: (and next time cally me "lady" not man ;)
[11:29] <Sanne> lol
[11:29] <surgy> Sanne: my bad thank you ma lady
[11:29] <CShadowRun> so the eth0 is there in the list, the lights are on on the pc and on the router...hmm?
[11:29] <Sanne> surgy: you're welcome :)
[11:29] <joel> CShadowRun: Is the IP numbers like adress  and netmask ok for the first one?
[11:29] <MonkeySugah> when i try to open it i get "could not open limewire.linux.rpm, archive type not supported"
[11:30] <CShadowRun> not sure
[11:30] <CShadowRun> it just shows alot of hex i think its a mac address, makes no sense to me
[11:30] <CShadowRun> looks like it hasn't got a ip address
[11:31] <joel> CShadowRun: So you use dhcp?
[11:32] <CShadowRun> hmm, im not really sure i just bought my router put in the user and password and hit go lol
[11:32] <CShadowRun> plugged all my hardware into it and it worked fine untill today :(
[11:32] <eagles0513875> this is what i get when i run glxgears now
[11:32] <eagles0513875> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:33] <CShadowRun> i'll pop into windows to see if i can connect in windows, then we can say if its something wrong with kubuntu or my router :P
[11:33] <tarnold_> testing testing, can you see this?
[11:34] <joel> CShadowRun: If you have not decided to use a certain ip adress (static ip adress) you by 99.9% chance use dynamic ip adress. (dynamichostcontolprotocol...oryadadya)
[11:34] <joel> CShadowRun: Okay, that could be a good idea, routers die now and then.
[11:34] <Lord_Maynoth> does this make sense to anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8849/
[11:35] <joel> Especially certain home class cheap. ^_^ (I have one)
[11:35] <gemidjy_> adding printer shows empty list for both model and manufacturer selections: take a look at this (I ask the same question here and on #kubuntu, sorry): http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4126/pnternf0.png
[11:35] <Sanne> Lord_Maynoth: just type "make" without sudo
[11:35] <CShadowRun> yea, my router doesn't have a option to use a static ip address. its a belkin :(
[11:36] <CShadowRun> you have to force a ip address in the network settings in windows (dunno how to do it in linux yet)
[11:36] <eagles0513875> this is what i get when i run glxgears nowXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:36] <Lord_Maynoth> Sanne, tried that first same error
[11:36] <eagles0513875> this is what i get when i run glxgears now Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:36] <joel> Lord_Maynoth: Why do you need to run make as root (if I understood correctly)
[11:37] <Lord_Maynoth> joel, I tried it as just make first same error
[11:37] <kubuntu_alex> somne one here who has problem with ATI graphic card on ubuntu?
[11:37] <CelestialDog> i had a problem with my ati but got it fixed
[11:38] <Sanne> Lord_Maynoth: then I don't know, sorry. It's something specific to this compilation. Try to find info on compile in some readme files that came with the sources, or on the website perhaps. should be documented somewhere.
[11:38] <eagles0513875> what u do celestial
[11:38] <CShadowRun> lol going back to windows just feels wrong after using linux for 5 days (its ugly...)
[11:38] <joel> CShadowRun: Try System settings --> Network Settings.              There you can set ip adresses.
[11:38] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[11:38] <chavo> Lord_Maynoth, apt-get install unsermake
[11:38] <joel> CShadowRun: Forcing ip adress sounds very much like static to me!
[11:38] <Lord_Maynoth> chavo, thank you
[11:38] <CShadowRun> hehe, the router gives out dynamic unless you specify in network settings otherwise
[11:39] <Sanne> chavo: ha, that simple. Should have thought about that ;)
[11:39] <tarnold__> hello?
[11:39] <CelestialDog> followed this tutorial http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:39] <chavo> then you can run either make or unsermake
[11:39] <SolidSource> !scanner > solidsource
[11:39] <yacoob> Hi folks.
[11:40] <yacoob> Are there any problems with fglrx? My system freezes when I try to shutdown.
[11:40] <joel> Lord_Maynoth: It says unsermake, some KDE specific make utility i think.
[11:40] <Lord_Maynoth> im installing now
[11:40] <joel> Hi tarnold__
[11:40] <Lord_Maynoth> hopefully that till fix it
[11:41] <CelestialDog> after freshly installing kubuntu i followed the tutorial i just posted and my ati card works fine
[11:41] <CShadowRun> looks like windows is connected, guess i'll go poke around in the network settings and see what i can find.
[11:41] <coreymon77> hi guys
[11:41] <CelestialDog> complete with direct rendering of opengl apps
[11:41] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:42] <yacoob> ah, bug 30447...
[11:42] <coreymon77> my partitions have messed up superblocks
[11:42] <coreymon77> how do i fix them
[11:42] <eagles0513875> ahhh how do i fix the missing free86dri
[11:43] <joel> CShadowRun: Try System settings --> Network Settings.              There you can set ip adresses.
[11:43] <eagles0513875> could it be that my graphics card is too new even though its 1 yr old
[11:43] <CShadowRun> yea i was about to head there, just rebooting thanks :P
[11:43] <coreymon77> all i want to do is mount the partitions and get some stuff off of them
[11:43] <joel> Okay, just making sure you got it ;)
[11:43] <eagles0513875> corey
[11:43] <CelestialDog> what card you using eagles ? mine is a x1650
[11:43] <eagles0513875> what kinda partitions r they
[11:43] <coreymon77> there is some really important stuff that i want to put onto a cd
[11:43] <coreymon77> then ill reinstall
[11:43] <eagles0513875> mine is a radeon 200m
[11:43] <eagles0513875> corey what partition format r they
[11:44] <eagles0513875> r they ntfs
[11:44] <CShadowRun> ok uhh guess linux was having a funny day
[11:44] <CShadowRun> booted linux and it just worked straight off
[11:44] <CelestialDog> eagles you using the driver from the ati site or the one through package manager?
[11:44] <gemidjy> solved
[11:44] <STRAMONIUM> haha funny dayz r linux's specialty
[11:44] <CShadowRun> thanks [joel]  :)
[11:44] <coreymon77> eagles0512875: no, i dont really know what they are
[11:45] <eagles0513875> do u have an os on those partitions
[11:45] <tarnold_> oi whats teh equivelent for times new roman?
[11:45] <coreymon77> im on the kubuntu channel arent i
[11:45] <coreymon77> look
[11:45] <STRAMONIUM> haha
[11:45] <eagles0513875> ya
 im on the kubuntu channel arent i
[11:45] <coreymon77> the only reason im using doze right now is because i cannot boot kubuntu right now
[11:46] <joel> CShadowRun: Could be that the router was confused. :) *shrugs*
[11:46] <Sanne> tarnold_: you can have time new roman, if you want.
[11:46] <eagles0513875> oh so its probably ext or reiserf
[11:46] <coreymon77> prob reiser
[11:46] <joel> Or or! Static in the wires!
[11:46] <CShadowRun> maybe, it does get confused sometimes. its not the most stable peice of kit in the world :)
[11:46] <coreymon77> through various programs and such
[11:46] <Lord_Maynoth> what do you guys think about ext4 will it be default in feisty?
[11:46] <joel> :)
[11:46] <coreymon77> i have found out that the data that i want is still on the drive
[11:46] <coreymon77> and is unharmed
[11:46] <jhutchins> Lord_Maynoth: What's wrong with ext3?
[11:46] <coreymon77> the only problem is getting to it
[11:47] <eagles0513875> its rather fast
[11:47] <eagles0513875> i have it on here right now
[11:47] <eagles0513875> y is it that kubuntu doesnt give reiser as an option
[11:47] <Lord_Maynoth> nothing... I am just wondering if ext4 will be in feisty :D
[11:47] <tarnold_> oh
[11:47] <tarnold_> cool
[11:47] <Sanne> tarnold_: if you want it, you can install the package msttcorefonts. You need multiverse enabled.
[11:48] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Reiser's udergone some controversy, I believe the current developer is in jail, and he has said that he doesn't recommend using reiserfs.
[11:48] <tarnold_> ive got that i think, what is msttcorefonts?
[11:48] <tarnold_> what is Reiserfs?
[11:48] <joel> microsoft truetype corefonts  I'd say.
[11:48] <eagles0513875> then did i make a good choice with using ext3
[11:49] <Lord_Maynoth> didn't he kill his wife or something
[11:49] <eagles0513875> is ext3 a good alternative to resierf
[11:49] <joel> tarnold_ (reiserfs is a file system)
[11:49] <Sanne> tarnold_: msttcorefonts is a script that will download some microsoft fonts like times new roman, arial, verdana, and also will get the necessary extracting utility for cabfiles, extract the fonts and install them to your system :)
[11:50] <jhutchins> tarnold_: It's a journaling filesystem that pre-dates ext journalling.
[11:50] <tarnold_> ok, how do i install it to the s?
[11:50] <tarnold_> gah
[11:50] <tarnold_> i hate laptop touch pads
[11:50] <jhutchins> tarnold_: When ext added journaling for ext3, reiser was pretty much redundant.
[11:50] <Sanne> tarnold_: it's prevented by the license of those fonts that ubuntu ships them directly, but it's legal to do it this way.
[11:50] <tarnold_> ok
[11:50] <tarnold_> ace
[11:51] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: As above to tarnold, yeah, ext3 is a good choice.
[11:51] <Sanne> tarnold_: especially if you like to have your screen fonts non-antialiased, arial is very nice for that.
[11:51] <eagles0513875> good
[11:51] <jhutchins> It should also be possible to use any fonts you have installed in Windows on a dual-boot machine.
[11:51] <tarnold_> next item on the agenda is how do I  play music:  the first time I installed Kubuntu i got GNOME and used some player, but now im not doing it on htis clean fresh install withe verrything working...
[11:51] <joel> Lord_Maynoth: Looked pretty messed up last time I checked it up. :s
[11:52] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[11:52] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah
[11:52] <tarnold_> so with that inmind(speaking of dual boots) my music is on my C drive and I want to play it, is amarok the best or is there a different KDE app?
[11:52] <jhutchins> !mp3 | tarnold_
[11:52] <ubotu> tarnold_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <Lord_Maynoth> I can't wait to move to canada
[11:52] <eagles0513875> j i have dual boot but windows fonts not showing on here
[11:52] <Lord_Maynoth> I am so sick of the US
[11:52] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[11:52] <tarnold_> so with that inmind(speaking of dual boots) my music is on my C drive and I want to play it, is amarok the best or is there a different KDE app?
[11:52] <tarnold_> sorry
[11:53] <tarnold_> bout the double post
[11:53] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Use the font configuration utility to import them - should be an option button.
[11:53] <kubuntu_alex> somne one here who has problem with ATI graphic card on ubuntu?
[11:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:53] <kubuntu_alex> can somone help me?
[11:53] <eagles0513875> tarnold
[11:53] <jhutchins> tarnold_: Amarok is a combination collection manager/player.  A bit heavy, but does nice work.
[11:54] <jhutchins> !ati | kubuntu_alex
[11:54] <ubotu> kubuntu_alex: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <eagles0513875> agreed u should be able to play stuff from ur win partition in amarok with some tweaking of settings
[11:54] <kubuntu_alex> thanks
[11:54] <jhutchins> kubuntu_alex: Hope it helps, it's hard to catch someone with your exact card on here.
[11:55] <tarnold_> Jhutchins: heavy as in how?
[11:55] <igorjr> hi
[11:55] <SolidSource> to access windows partition...all you have to do is mount the NTFS partition and then add it into amaroks collection or just use amaroks file browsing
[11:56] <tarnold_> solidSource: thanks
[11:56] <eagles0513875> tar u want to transfer things ovr from ntfs to linux partition
[11:56] <igorjr> i manually installed the drivers, ubotu reconned me
[11:56] <SolidSource> (merely 1 example
[11:56] <igorjr> and my performance went down as hell
[11:56] <jhutchins> tarnold_: It can use up some system resources, especially when scanning the collection, it creates a database on the disk, but for what it does it's very good.  I really like it's Radom Play capability.
[11:56] <igorjr> i got an ati-radeon
[11:56] <tarnold_> ah ok
[11:56] <igorjr> i wondered if i did something wrong
[11:57] <kubuntu_alex> jhutchins>: i have a ATI x700
[11:57] <jhutchins> igorjr: Some of the cards work better on the open drivers.  You'll need to look for info specific to your card.
[11:57] <eagles0513875> kubuntu ive tried everything
[11:57] <eagles0513875> is ur direct rendering working
[11:57] <eagles0513875> mine says indirect
[11:57] <igorjr> jhutchins: k and is there any way to switch back to the standart-driver if it fails to improve the performance?
[11:58] <Alarm> hello, is there any way to create a bar at the top of my screen , where i can add shortcuts and that will be invisible. of course i want only this one to be invisible. i added a panel, but when i make the transparency, the configuration counts also for the main bar, and i dont want that. is there any way ?
[11:59] <tarnold_> hey all with XP I have my USB drive with FF on and opera USB, each in seperate folders but when i plug it in when running Kubuntu i have another folder, with stuff in it that i though i deleted already? whats the deal
[12:00] <delight> seems like 64-bit PC version of kubuntu is not running on a intel core2duo ... @ least the herd5 starts for me with a segmentation fault error
[12:01] <SolidSource> tarnold_: if its stuff you deleted, its the trash folder for that drive that you didn't empty
[12:01] <delight> I had asked some time ago and soone was saying to me it should work ... its not ;) if someone asks again
[12:02] <tarnold_> yeah i just hit the delete key in windows from the USB drive
[12:03] <kubuntu_alex> any one from norway here?
[12:03] <SolidSource> delight: well for one, the 64bit version is built around the AMD64 standard, so intel 64bit processor are not exactly 100% supported yet..though they should work
[12:04] <eagles0513875> amd suxs
[12:04] <eagles0513875> they have hit a wall
[12:04] <jhutchins> delight: It's worth noting that some people even have the more difficult media formats working on it, so...
[12:04] <lontra> anyone use opera?  is it any better than firefox?
[12:05] <lontra> i hear it's quicker
[12:05] <adydas> i use opera
[12:05] <jhutchins> lontra: What's wrong with konqueror?
[12:05] <lontra> jhutchins: i like konqi for most things
[12:05] <SolidSource> konqueror doesn't offer what firefox and opera do....firefox tops out with customizability
[12:05] <jhutchins> I have opera, but I usually fall back to firefox if I need compatibility with some wierd website.
[12:06] <delight> SolidSource: jhutchins: i wasn't complaining or so ... I'm all good with that my favorite OS ... just saying it to make it public
[12:06] <tarnold_> so how do i delete it?
[12:06] <delight> + its not my own system ... i'd by a X2 of AMD right now :-D
[12:06] <delight> buy
[12:06] <tarnold_> b/c in windows i just see two folders, mozilla FF and opera USB?
[12:07] <SolidSource> delight: I use 64bit...but I have an AMD Athlond X2 processor
[12:07] <delight> SolidSource: nice choice ;)
[12:09] <SolidSource> tarnold_: linux creates a seperate trash for each partition/drive, its not a windows thing
[12:10] <delight> well yeah its a all brand new intel core2duo 6600 ... so i thought 64bit would be good ... esp as it got 3gb of ram and so on ... anyways ... i will install some 32 bit on it i guess
[12:10] <eagles0513875> i hate amd im more of an intel guy
[12:10] <delight> eagles0513875: that new amd series perform better ... intel is only good for mobiles
[12:10] <SolidSource> Intel is over priced and doesn't work any better than the AMD
[12:10] <eagles0513875> but tech wise they r way ahead of amd
[12:10] <delight> its not even a real 64bit processor
[12:10] <eagles0513875> whats not a real 64 bit processor
[12:10] <delight> eagles0513875: way ahead ??? well well ...
[12:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:10] <SolidSource> actually the AMD turion is doing a bit better than intels mobile processor
[12:10] <eagles0513875> wasnt it intel that came out with 65nm before intel
[12:10] <delight> eagles0513875: the intel core 2 duo ... it only got some strange 64bit extension
[12:10] <eagles0513875> humm
[12:10] <eagles0513875> dont the dual cores outperform desktop wise
[12:10] <delight> SolidSource: on powerconsumpion better ?
[12:11] <SolidSource> delight: yes, with the same speed as intel
[12:11] <lontra> are there feisty packages of opera somewhere or do i just need to go to opera website?
[12:11] <lontra> !opera
[12:11] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:11] <SolidSource> opera makes a Deb package
[12:11] <delight> eagles0513875: intel is just closing the gap to amd with there intel core 2 duo .. there performance was way behind the actual AM2 X2 processors
[12:11] <eagles0513875> what makes me mad is that they already phased out 939 processors
[12:11] <delight> SolidSource: wow didn't know that ... I would have bought an AMD
[12:11] <delight> darn
[12:12] <eagles0513875> was hoping to  upgread my desktop from 3200 to x2
[12:12] <tarnold_> can i get the programs of things in teh kicker to disapeer if i move to a different virtual desktop? or do they stay there>
[12:12] <tarnold_> ?
[12:12] <eagles0513875> or fx but no more 939 processors *shakes head*
[12:12] <_Daisuke_Ido_> you should be able to get 939 processors dirt cheap these days
[12:12] <delight> eagles0513875: well intel force you for upgrade of everything every 6 months
[12:13] <SolidSource> delight: yeah, but thats only processor...the wireless card and chipset intel goes with the processor, does give intel the boost
[12:13] <delight> while amd you could run from amd duron 600 up to athlon xp 3200 on the same mainboard .. no socket change
[12:13] <_Daisuke_Ido_> eagles0513875: what are you looking for in the x2 line?
[12:13] <delight> lately they doing a little worse on that topic in my eyes ... but there 64bit processors are outperformers ... its a simple misbelieve out there intel would be so much better
[12:14] <_Daisuke_Ido_> x2 4200+ for $169
[12:14] <eagles0513875> really where
[12:14] <_Daisuke_Ido_> newegg
[12:14] <eagles0513875> anything 939 daisuke
[12:14] <delight> SolidSource: yeah ... they got that centrino thing going on for some while now ... well i guess i'm not to bad served with my laptop
[12:14] <delight> :-)
[12:14] <eagles0513875> sweet now i know for future reference
[12:14] <eagles0513875> now between fx and the x2 which is better
[12:15] <_Daisuke_Ido_> fx is the "god among men" if you ask a lot of people
[12:15] <_Daisuke_Ido_> the x2 is just a dual core processor
[12:15] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i use an x2 3800+ and i love it
[12:15] <Sanne> _Daisuke_Ido_: me too, and I do too
[12:15] <SolidSource> the latest X2 processor is 3Ghz...though costs around $450-500 for it
[12:15] <eagles0513875> what so great bout fx line