=== doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FE559.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] ajmitch: I had a zope question for you [01:32] ajmitch: about schooltool and schoolbell [01:32] but it seems they are sort of not in the best shape [01:33] I know [01:33] and Fujitsu explained it well for you [01:33] I was trying to fix something [01:34] and found out the newer versions were FTBFS because of zope deps [01:34] seems a shame for Main packages [01:34] which are there for a reason, since zope 3 isn't a completely stable API [01:37] it's a shame that we have shipped school* in previous releases, and they'll be broken in feisty [01:37] so we cease to be able to fix schooltool and schoolbell [01:37] well, I'm not sure how broken they are, I just know we can't rebuild them [01:38] fairly broken, I heard === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch hasn't heard any news about when a new upstream version compatible with zope 3.3 will be released [01:40] that's the problme with developing on early revisions of APIs while the platform is still changing [01:42] ajmitch: Microsoft would disagree with that last statement :) === ajmitch doesn't really care about them [01:43] ahh, I get it, closet vista'er ;p [01:44] real helpful [01:45] hehe === pochu [n=pochu@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] nixternal: is there a way to delete or overwrite wiki attachments?? [01:54] jdong: in the drop down, you can select Attachments [01:55] once you are there you can del the attachment, or just upload a new one with the same name === ajmitch wonders about these people blogging about some free software 'community' [01:56] nixternal: you obviously have more buttons than me [01:56] nixternal: I don't have a del link, and uploading a new one with same name spits an error [01:56] hrmm [01:56] jdong: which page? [01:57] nixternal: iPodVideoEncoding [01:57] nixternal: I need to replace pypodconv with a newer version [01:57] alrighty, let me look at the page [01:58] You are not allowed to delete attachments on this page. [01:58] haha, trying to hack the URL :PO [01:58] whoa [01:58] jdong: you are right, you can't delete [01:58] nixternal: lol, then remove the attachement, please :) [01:58] I'll host the file elsewhere [01:59] I can't even remove it, this is silly [01:59] LOL [01:59] let me try a silly trick [01:59] that's hilarious [01:59] &do=del? [01:59] tried that :D [01:59] You are not allowed to delete attachments on this page. [01:59] silly trick [01:59] hahaha ya [01:59] OK, this is seriously stupid === russe11 [n=russ@retribution.student.iastate.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === russe11 [n=russ@retribution.student.iastate.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:11] ajmitch: people blog about that? :-) [02:12] oh geeze, that weirdo from ChiTown is at it again ;-) === robb [n=robb@12.23.98.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] apparantly === ajmitch wonders where this mythical community is some days :) === LaserJock tries to get qemu/kqemu going === ajmitch tries to stay awake [02:18] RE: jono's email: getting people isn't going to help if we don't train them. [02:19] which email was this, crimsun ? [02:20] ah I see it now [02:20] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-March/001346.html [02:21] crimsun: I agree [02:22] having people flailing around doesn't really help a lot of the time [02:22] we've often had a number of people wanting to help in some way [02:22] we probably scare quite a few off [02:22] the rather significant time investment shouldn't be seen as a crutch, though. There should be a way to turn it into a point of pride. [02:22] I see he wants to help define direction [02:22] but in what way? === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] well, I think he's wanting discussion [02:25] ajmitch, LaserJock: (re SchoolTool) There are no release plans at this time. There is unlikely to be a release for at least another year or so at least. I'd recommend demotion or removal. [02:25] uggg [02:25] people will certainly complain === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] but nothing can be done [02:26] What'd I miss now? 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[03:26] sounds sexy. === RAOF groans [03:26] lol === jdong bets RAOF wants dual-head === RAOF is Tasmanian, so is automatically dual-head :P [03:31] Fujitsu: a rebuild of Debian experimental's source package against Ubuntu Feisty's current archive works. [03:31] it should be synced this week as the driver build portion of the X.Org 7.2 transition. === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] Which source package? i810-modesetting? [03:31] yes. [03:32] I've been providing a package (built against the older xorg-server) on tiber [03:32] That's the one I've got. [03:32] how does it fare on your hardware? [03:32] If I rebuild it, won't I still need a new xrandr to do the magic? [03:33] well, the magic needs xorg-server to be recompiled with the newer xrandr support enabled [03:33] Ah, I presumed it was already. [03:34] Thanks for the clarification. [03:34] np === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable049.150-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] Is changelogs.ubuntu.com inaccessible for anybody else? [03:39] given that people.u.c is also inaccessible, I'd say there could be some issues === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable049.150-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] I'd say so. === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address [04:33] how do I go about fixing that error? [04:33] I have just noticed this one pop up recently [04:33] nixternal: You want to check out the DebianMaintainerField spec. [04:34] thanks RAOF [04:34] Basically, you need to use an Ubuntu associated address for the maintainer field if you make changes. [04:35] The wiki page suggests a default (something like motu@ubuntu.com, but that's not it) if you don't have, or don't want to use, your own @ubuntu address. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] OK, fixed that, thanks again RAOF! [04:42] outdated-autotools-helper-file config.guess 2003-01-10 [04:44] NP. === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] yay! [05:24] fixed a bug in Compiz [05:24] Huzzah. [05:25] Want to fix compiz-extra FTBFS? If not, I'll do it as soon as I get internet at home again :) [05:25] well in fact, no. I fixed a bug in the `desktop-effect' [05:25] Well, that's also good. [05:25] The "desktops on cube" button not working? [05:25] yeah [05:26] Thus droping the desktop-effects bug count to 3, I think. [05:26] Of which, at least a couple are wishlist. [05:26] but ouch, my head hurt now. Coding in C is painful [05:27] Why is desktop-effects coded in C? [05:27] yes [05:27] Surely you could *rewrite* it in Python in the same time it would take to fix a single bug? [05:27] Owch. [05:28] Maybe Gnome should have a "Configuration capplets may not be written in C" policy :) [05:28] lol, but I don't think a Python version would be really better or worth the effort [05:28] Well, no. [05:28] well, it's Red Hat who wrote it [05:28] But it's such a trivial program. Why would you even consider using C for something as simple? === RAOF marvels at the strange attraction of C [05:29] because it's fun? [05:29] ...until you try to fix the bugs in it? :P [05:30] Anyway, kudos. [05:30] well, the bug wasn't hard to fix [05:31] Except that it was in C? [05:31] :) [05:31] yeah [05:32] and the overuse of * -> and . [05:32] Ah, in the days before managed memory... [05:35] theCore: Wasn't that bug filed like 2 hours ago? [05:35] Fujitsu: I don't know [05:37] Filed 1 hour 40 minutes ago... Nice quick fix :) [05:38] bug #? [05:39] bug #89786 [05:39] Malone bug 89786 in desktop-effects "Desktop-effect does not enable cube" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89786 [05:40] yes, that's the one. I think [05:41] RAOF: some people still like those "good old days" [05:43] back in my day, we didn't have these fancy things [05:43] Good old i386 assembly. [05:43] I seem to be going back in time :/ [05:43] flat memory model! luxury! [05:43] Yeah, there's something pleasantly macho about C programming sometimes. [05:44] sometimes the speed is worth it [05:44] Plus, you get to do some cool stuff. [05:44] most of the coding in my field is Fortran still [05:44] Aaah, the good *ooooold* days. [05:44] one of my profs even does this new fangled Fortran90 stuff [05:45] but we like the old school Fortran better ;-) [05:45] :) [05:46] now I tend to use python wrappers for the fortran and C stuff [05:46] what I hate of C is that it is hard to see the flow of the data === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] That's because data doesn't flow in C. Functions just touch it in strange and inappropriate ways :) [05:47] I also hate all the side-effects of assignment [05:47] Dad uses Fortran for a fair bit of stuff.... Mostly Fortran77, I think. [05:47] eh, Fortran [05:47] at least, it isfast [05:48] yeah, I was just working on some numerical solutions to differential equations [05:48] to fit some kinetic models of my laser blasting some molecules ;-) [05:48] all Fortran, even the plotting [05:48] that's cool [05:48] at least, to hear about :) === robitaille also spend his days coding in Fortran... [05:49] but I don't blasts molecules [05:51] robitaille, what do you do with it? [05:52] I work on large-scale climate models http://www.cccma.ec.gc.ca/ [05:52] ohh, nifty [05:52] Aha. [05:52] it's all Fortran. Mostly fortran 77...a bit of fortran 90 [05:53] I wonder if Fortress will get popular in the scientific community ... [05:53] Meteorology is what my father does, though it's mostly processing of satellite data. [05:53] it is Sun answer to Fortran, and it's GPLed! === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] Sun does seem to be doing the whole GPL thing a lot lately. [05:54] Sun is really trying to appeal the free software community [05:54] never heard on Fortress. We mostly work on IBM Aix supercomputers, and they provide are generally pretty good. [05:54] Java, Solaris, Fortress ... [05:54] I honestly don't know if Fortress would catch on [05:54] I'm hoping for python to take over Fortran ;-) [05:55] hehe [05:55] that's what I use now [05:55] scipy/matplotlib [05:55] robitaille: http://fortress.sunsource.net/ [05:55] Sounds good. [05:55] oh, I was wrong [05:56] it uses the BSD license [05:56] theCore: thanks. [05:57] Sun is certainly not kidding with this language. Guy Steele Jr. is on it [05:58] robitaille: you may want to look at the research page too : http://research.sun.com/projects/plrg/ [05:59] theCore: the thing is...our main app have 100,000 lines of code, and some of it is decade old. I don't see us ever switching away from Fortran. Scientists are quite conservative :) [06:00] "Fortress `loops' are parallel by default" -- crazy! [06:00] robitaille: yeah, I know. I think they are targeting people who builds new applications [06:00] robitaille: I totally know what you mean [06:01] robitaille: our data acquisition program is C and must be 10-15 years old [06:01] we just keep modifying it as needed [06:03] I always laugh when I see some code we use and the earliest date in the comments go back to the early 1980s. [06:03] the really crazy thing about Fortress is they use mathematical notation with Unicode for expressing programs [06:04] robitaille: wow, yours has comments?!? :-) [06:04] (lol) [06:05] Well...the name of the first author, and a 3-4 words description. We are generally pretty bad at comments. [06:05] back in LaserJock's day they didn't even have variables, let alone comments! [06:05] mine has probably a few thousand lines of code and basically no comments [06:05] every time we get a new oscilloscope we have to rewrite it [06:06] and it requires a 2.4 kernel [06:07] oh, I see the fun [06:09] ugh, there's a MOTU meeting this week, isn't there? [06:09] really? [06:09] we should invite Jono [06:10] ajmitch: I can quietly delete it from the Fridge if you don't want it to occur :) [06:10] LaserJock: read motu ML. just did [06:10] robitaille: *grin* === ajmitch might show up for some of the meeting [06:10] What time is it? [06:11] 7am on the 7th for you [06:11] decent time :-) === ajmitch will be at work sometime around then === Fujitsu will be eating breakfast then. === StevenK will probably be sleeping. === Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce [06:19] man [06:19] LaserJock: ? [06:20] you AU/NZ have no "take one for the team" attitude ;-) [06:20] ? [06:20] the comments ^^ [06:20] Ah. [06:25] Bug #89786 [06:25] Malone bug 89786 in desktop-effects "Desktop-effect does not enable cube" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89786 [06:25] I added the patch [06:27] desktop-effects | 0.7.1-0ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au feisty/main Packages [06:27] should I send the bug upstream? [06:27] Note the main, theCore. [06:28] That is a possibility, yes. [06:28] Probably the best idea. [06:29] I wonder where is upstream though... [06:29] Red Had? [06:29] Red Hat* [06:29] or GNOME? [06:30] Upstream Author: Fedora Project [06:30] (from debian/copyright) [06:31] Best to look in their BTS, I would guess. [06:31] it's Fedora's applet :) [06:35] LaserJock: of course we do [06:35] LaserJock: we delegate it out to someone like Hobbsee [06:35] lol === LaserJock has got nobody :( [06:35] ...who then delegates it to her minions. === ajmitch doesn't need to be at the meeting anyway [06:35] ajmitch: rubbish. [06:35] Fujitsu: *exactly* === Hobbsee delegates to Fujitsu [06:35] Hobbsee: rubbish? === Fujitsu begrudgingly takes whatever task was delegated to him. You just can't argue with Hobbsee. [06:38] ajmitch: you dont need to delegate to me [06:41] oh I do [06:41] I'll be at work, maybe in a meeting at that time [06:42] bye hobbsee... === g0su [n=moxilo@141.30.212.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] heh, ironpython... how amusing === jdong has succeeded in turning a python lib into a .NET assembly [06:46] too bad it has several embedded os.system() calls that don't work in ipy.... :( === jdong goes in with sed and re-maps to Mono.Posix [06:47] theCore: btw, I'm more than completely confident that Fedora desktop-effects does not suffer from our cube bug [06:48] jdong: hmm, then should we add it as a debian patch ? [06:48] theCore: yeah, I'd say so [06:48] theCore: I used rawhide the other day ,and desktop effects activated as advertised.... [06:48] so it must be something about our Compiz's default config? [06:49] maybe [06:49] thanks for looking into that :) [06:50] I could do the debian patch, but I am not sure if I fixed the bug "the right way" [06:51] my patch make desktop-effects changes the number of workspace to one when Compiz is enabled [06:51] theCore: you mean when cube is checked, right? [06:52] no, also when it's unchecked [06:52] but theCore , that's correct behavior IMO.... 1 desktop with 4-sided viewport. [06:52] well, no [06:52] theCore: it sounds fine to me.... [06:52] the two conflicts [06:53] set /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize=4, right? [06:53] so, you end up with a cube per workspace [06:53] and then n_o_d to 1 [06:53] (an hypercube :) [06:53] lol [06:53] well to me it looks like it works just fine [06:54] everything behaves as expected [06:54] unchecking cube goes to the typical slide-behavior [06:54] it's defintiely better than the unfixed behavior ;-) [06:55] maybe I should take a video of my hypercube ... [06:55] it kinda weirds, though [06:56] me, the cube functionality works perfectly fine, except that I got an hypercube [06:57] why do you have a hypercube? [06:57] mmm hypercube [06:57] I set hsize=4 and ndesktops=1 and get a normal cube.... [06:57] not saying that a hypercube wouldn't be fascinating [06:57] Can't you just set n_o_d to 1 and hsize to 4 when you select "cube" and change them back when unselecting cube? [06:57] I got a cube per workspace [06:57] RAOF: no real need to set them back [06:57] theCore: did you set ndesktops=1 [06:57] It's not really a hypercube. There are only 4 of them :P [06:58] yes [06:58] jdong: But if you leave n_o_d at 1, doesn't it break the Gnome-panel desktop switcher applet thingy? [06:58] RAOF: nope [06:58] RAOF: it works just fine even when cube is off === theCore crank up the number of workspace [06:58] Oh, cool. That's been fixed behind my back then :) [06:59] RAOF: you simply get a slide rather than a fade effect [06:59] OH DEAR GOD [06:59] I set n_o_d=4 [06:59] and got that hypercube effect [06:59] hehe [06:59] geez that's weird [07:00] What's the hypercube? [07:00] Fujitsu: each workspace is a cube [07:00] AHH, my system is breaking apart .... [07:00] Fujitsu: so you get 4 desktops of 4 cubes each [07:00] Fujitsu: very confusing to use, in other words :) [07:00] "This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed" [07:00] You only see one cube at a time? [07:00] Fujitsu: right [07:01] Aha. [07:01] Fujitsu: but if you flip to another desktop you can manipulate to a totally different cube [07:01] with nothing on it [07:01] lol [07:01] I had to put tomboy notes with numbers [07:01] to make sense [07:01] of what's going on === jdong puts that down on the list of absurd uses for tomboy [07:01] ok, setting n_o_d to four, when you already got the hypercube, is bad ... [07:02] lol === LaserJock grins and remembers why he doesn't run that stuff :-) [07:02] LaserJock: but this is so mathematically intriguing [07:03] hmm, what's the rate of change of surface area as you add the n+1th desktop? === LaserJock grins and remembers why he is a chemist [07:03] LaserJock: I'm sure you can form a benzene ring of desktops [07:03] lol [07:03] and have various apps be the electrons [07:03] betcha can't catch them :D [07:03] but what desktop does the app live on? [07:04] It doesn't, obviously. [07:04] lol [07:04] Well, some will. [07:04] LaserJock: shroedinger will tell you none. :) [07:04] But the conjugate apps will just kinda be there :) [07:04] lol [07:04] I know!!! [07:04] is that like emacs and vim? [07:04] square it! [07:04] conjugate apps? :D [07:04] emacs? [07:04] then it will be come a real app! [07:05] LaserJock: no, you get 2 real and 2 more imaginary apps :) [07:05] Surely that will only collapse the waveform and stick it on a particular desktop? [07:05] (my Emacs detector tingled) [07:05] eigen desktops? [07:05] LaserJock: Hahah. [07:05] ahhhh, the nerd's life :-) [07:05] The desktop isn't an object itself; more it is a filter on the measure-space of application positions :P [07:06] lol [07:06] I just think we need to come up with a formulation of the workspace-desktop duality [07:07] is it a desktop? [07:07] Workspace-desktop duality. I like it. [07:07] is it a workspace? [07:07] it's both simultaneously === LaserJock head explodes [07:07] Until you look at it! [07:07] a surface? [07:07] a plane? [07:07] a cube side? [07:08] a hypercube side? [07:08] Fujitsu: No, you can simultaneously measure it's workspace and desktop qualities, if you do so carefully :) [07:08] but where does Heisenburg fit in here? [07:08] RAOF: Impossible! [07:08] LaserJock: That's what we can't determine. Where it fits. [07:08] hmm [07:09] the more accurately you know what workspace you are on the less accurately know what app is on that workspace? [07:09] Fujitsu: I quote "New Scientist" from a couple of weeks ago: "The experiment seems to overthrow the desktop or workspace principle, and the apparatus appears capable of measuring both simultaneously" === theCore wonders what Heisenburg did again... [07:10] RAOF: Whatever you say :P [07:10] theCore: The uncertainty principal. [07:10] ah the uncertainty! [07:10] *principle === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] Fujitsu: ah, your faster than my brain [07:10] (maybe, I am just too tired...) [07:11] you're* [07:12] ok, enough cubes for today. I don't want to get lost in the hyper-dimensional space during my dreams tonight [07:12] http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=796 [07:14] ok, this comic made me laugh, I am really too tired [07:14] good bye, all === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73459.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] good morning [07:45] Hi dholbach. [07:45] hi Fujitsu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | MOTUs - work on http://tinyurl.com/2v32u4 === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by LaserJock at Thu Mar 1 04:52:39 2007 === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [StingRay] [n=windwalk@80.80.151.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] <[StingRay] > Hi all, dappers gs-esp is broken. I made a source install of 8.54-gpl and now all is fine. I want to make a deb package out of the source with pbuilder. I have it installed. I have a question: In the howto it says - sudo pbuilder build *.dsc Where do I get the dsc from (apt-get source gs-esp???) [09:38] <[StingRay] > I am willing to help others too by building this package. [09:39] [StingRay] : what's borken in this package ? [09:39] broken* [09:40] <[StingRay] > Lutin, fonts...and some printer problems with Konika Minolta 1400W [09:40] <[StingRay] > If I print Courier New (from wine) I get half characters... [09:40] <[StingRay] > I used a 7.07 deb file but I makes other problems... [09:40] <[StingRay] > I built 8.54 gpl from source and now all is just fine [09:41] [StingRay] : does the edgy version work fine ? [09:41] <[StingRay] > I had visual defects on OO and Micorosft office [09:42] <[StingRay] > as for the fonts yes...but cannot tell if the visual problems with OO and the printing problems with KM1400W are there (did not test...) [09:43] ok :/. because I highly doubt that putting a new version in dapper is possible. i'm no muto though [09:43] motu* [09:43] <[StingRay] > Can you help me in my builiding problem... :/ [09:43] <[StingRay] > I am too new [09:44] <[StingRay] > I don't want to build this from source on all my future machines... === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] you can apt-get source it, replace the sources, add a nentry in the changelog and then run debuild -S -sa [09:48] and then you'll be able to run pbuilder :) [09:48] <[StingRay] > So I replace the original gs-esp 8.15.2...tar.gz with gs-esp 8.54....tar.gz. Then I place the gs-esp 8.15.2 in the same dir and start "debuild -S -sa", right? (Should I tar my compilation directory, where the makefile is???) [09:49] <[StingRay] > Sorry for my newbiesh knowledge [09:49] <[StingRay] > gs-esp 8.15.2....dsc I meant [09:49] basically, you have to replace the odl tar by the new one, replace the old sources by the new ones [09:50] rename the source folder to match the new source version [09:51] and add in entry in debian/changelog to match that version change; then go in the source folder and run debuild ;) [09:51] <[StingRay] > I will start right now === Kagou [n=Kagou@77.192.172.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] <[StingRay] > Lutin, what do you call the changelog? The dsc file? [09:53] [StingRay] : non, then source_dir/debian/changelog file [09:53] no* === herzi [n=herzi@p548FC1FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] <[StingRay] > Lutin, I edited the /8.15.2/debian/changelog. Now I have to do this, right (please check it, I am afraid I will break something): 1# tar xvzpf 8.54-gpl...tar.gz ; 2#mv 8.15.2/ 8.54/ ; 3# cp 8.54-gpl../ 8.54/ -r ; 4#cd 8.54 ; 5#debuild -S -sa ;6#??? (sudo pbuilder build *.dsc). [10:05] not sure I understand everything, so here's what I think you need to do: 1# mv 8.15.2 8.54; 2# del all the source files in this folder and replace with your new version sources; 3# remove the previous orig tarball and replace it by a tarball source that you name gs-esp_8.54.orig.tar.gz; 4# go in the source folder and run debuild; 5# run pbuilder [10:09] well, gotta leave. see you later :) [10:09] <[StingRay] > you mean delete everything, but the debian/ folder [10:10] <[StingRay] > Lutin, bye , thanks for the help [10:10] [StingRay] : debian/ is not 'sources files' ;) [10:10] and indeed, you have to keep it otherwise there's not point in trying to build a package :) [10:10] see you [10:10] <[StingRay] > Bye === Phlosten [n=Phlosten@CPE-58-167-61-68.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === arre [n=ac@trillke.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] morning [10:32] dholbach: Hi there. How're things? [10:33] AstralJava: hi, busy busy. [10:33] AstralJava: how 'bout you? [10:33] Just fine, thanks. :) [10:34] Was wondering if you've had time to check up on that weird error with the US-look thingie? [10:34] I can't seem to make progress with it. [10:36] no [10:36] I have no idea about how themes work internally [10:36] please write to ubuntu-art@ [10:36] Oh alright. [10:36] Thanks! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [StingRay] [n=windwalk@80.80.151.9] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === Kagou [n=Kagou@77.192.172.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamyskis [n=dlecount@dslb-084-061-011-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gismo_ [n=stef@89.28.145.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] ubuntustudio-look and oransun-look on revu need reviewing - they're both targetted for NewPackagesFreezeUniverse exceptions [11:22] queued. [11:22] I need to finish sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c fixes first, though. === dholbach hugs crimsun [11:22] take your time, I'll check them first [11:22] just starting [11:32] crimsun: only ubuntustudio-look seems to be 'ready' - i checked all the other *ubuntustudio* packages too === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-41-170.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] <\sh> moins [11:58] 'morning. [11:59] hi \sh shawarma [11:59]