[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> blu3blur: lookn/n
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err
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[11:59] <asac> yeah! people.ubuntu.com is up again ... we have -dbgsym again!
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ok i think im back ;)
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> heya gnomefreak
[02:47] <gnomefreak> hi Admiral_Chicago
[02:47] <gnomefreak> did i miss anything important?
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> blah, i don't look forward to class.
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, no.
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, time to go learn
[03:05] <asac> gnomefreak: back?
[03:05] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... you missed that dapper firefox broke evolution/gaim-encryption
[03:05] <gnomefreak> for a day or 2. im still away just seeing what i missed and if needed for something :)
[03:05] <asac> which i fixed in a night shift :)
[03:05] <gnomefreak> oh god :(
[03:06] <gnomefreak> i saw emails about that
[03:06] <asac> mozilla did upgrade the nss branch to latest
[03:06] <asac> and shipped a new library libfreebl3
[03:06] <asac> murphy like this was not visible in breezy, because there is still old mozilla which provides libnss
[03:06] <gnomefreak> is that in pace of libnss?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> s/pace/place
[03:06] <asac> yes ... libnss was split -> libnss + libfreebl3
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ok cool :)
[03:07] <asac> libfreebl3 did not end up in /usr/lib/, but in /usr/lib/firefox
[03:07] <asac> which caused the mess
[03:07] <gnomefreak> yuck
[03:07] <asac> i knew that redhat hat exactly this problem
[03:07] <asac> with evolution and gaim
[03:07] <asac> tried on breezy ... no problem
[03:07] <gnomefreak> upstream issue?upstream issue?
[03:07] <asac> ok, lets go ahead :)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> wtf is going on
[03:08] <asac> somehow upstream, somehow our problem
[03:08] <asac> we should have caught this in QA
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:08] <asac> i will setup a test-plan ... so this does not slip through next time
[03:08] <gnomefreak> we? how long did we have it beofre releasing it?
[03:08] <asac> its always hard to test things in 4 different chroot
[03:08] <asac> you always miss the test that breaks :)
[03:08] <gnomefreak> thats true
[03:09] <asac> next time i will provide builds for all distributions based on upstream release-candidates so we have more time to test all stuff
[03:10] <asac> in addition thunderbird 1.5.0.10 came out on friday without any pre notice
[03:10] <asac> and no RC which had a source code
[03:10] <asac> so now i called it stealthbird :)
[03:10] <asac> currently building updates
[03:11] <gnomefreak> have you done it yet?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:11] <asac> i have
[03:11] <asac> waiting for kees to push security updates
[03:11] <asac> feisty will get update today as well.
[03:11] <gnomefreak> cool
[03:12] <gnomefreak> you did keep the reply to list patch right?
[03:12] <asac> hmmm
[03:12] <asac> not atm
[03:12] <asac> i will reconsider :)
[03:12] <gnomefreak> :) i love it
[03:13] <asac> yeah ... probably safe
[03:13] <gnomefreak> at least it will keep whatever bug it was closed
[03:14] <asac> ... people.ubuntu.com was down the whole weekend ... we couldn't do any traces
[03:14] <asac> no -dbgsym archive there :/
[03:15] <gnomefreak> was that due to pitt patching it or the whole archive was down?
[03:16] <asac> whole people.ubuntu.com machine was down ... not accessible
[03:16] <asac> neither http nor ssh
[03:16] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[03:20] <gnomefreak> has david been around?
[03:22] <asac> not seen david today
[03:23] <asac> omgponiezlol: Freddy?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> looks like him
[03:24] <gnomefreak> but dont have vlue
[03:24] <gnomefreak> clue
[03:24] <asac> ;)
[03:31] <gnomefreak> it seems i can set gmail to use my @ubuntu.com for outgoing but cant set tb to use it
[03:35] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> how would i it gives login name and smtp address thats it
[03:36] <gnomefreak> my gmail @gmail.com i was able to set @ubuntu.com as default so when i send it will show up as that
[03:38] <asac> hmm
[03:38] <asac> try "Manage identites"
[03:38] <asac> identities
[03:38] <asac> in account settings
[03:39] <asac> there you can add a new identity which sends through the gmail pop
[03:39] <asac> but with new email
[03:39] <asac> you should also be able to set different email in account settings directly
[03:39] <gnomefreak> looking
[03:39] <asac> but i guess you want to switch back and forth
[03:39] <asac> thus adding a new identity is the right way to go
[03:40] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ill try adding another identity
[03:47] <gnomefreak> ah i htink that worked :) ty i just sent test email to a freind
[03:47] <gnomefreak> brb smoke before i sit down and see what i can do with these retraces
[03:50] <asac> http://cweiske.de/misc_extensions.htm#replyToList
[03:50] <asac> can you test if that works with unpatched version (as author claims)
[03:50] <asac> ?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> i have it on mine
[03:52] <gnomefreak> it works here on feisty's default version of tb
[03:53] <asac> hmm
[03:53] <asac> so we don't need that patch
[03:53] <gnomefreak> wait no im using my build but that was just feistys tb with the replytolist patch
[03:53] <gnomefreak> let me try default tb in my feisty chroot
[03:54] <asac> good
[03:54] <asac> i guess that extension uses ugly hacks ... but anyway ... if there is an extension that works then we don't need the patch
[03:56] <gnomefreak> thats bad.... he admits its a hack :(
[03:57] <asac> ok
[03:57] <asac> i will include patch for now
[03:57] <asac> it has review+ in bugzilla
[03:57] <asac> so ... at least not a dirty thing.
[03:58] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[03:58] <gnomefreak> seems chroot has the button already, i guess it uses the version installed in non chroot (or atleast the profile)
[03:59] <asac> yes
[03:59] <asac> you mounted your home
[03:59] <asac> :)
[03:59] <gnomefreak> can you send test email to our ML so i can test it i have no emails
[03:59] <asac> but button should not work
[03:59] <asac> in chroot
[03:59] <gnomefreak> but it should still ne unpatched
[03:59] <gnomefreak> s/ne/be
[03:59] <asac> you have no email in ml?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> yes i do sorry
[04:00] <gnomefreak> it doesnt work
[04:01] <asac> should take 1.5 seconds to change address bar
[04:01] <asac> :)
[04:01] <asac> you need to install the extension
[04:02] <asac> maybe uninstall other
[04:02] <asac> but nevermind
[04:02] <gnomefreak> i am
[04:02] <asac> its too ugly to support
[04:02] <gnomefreak> but i think that is wher ei got it from to begin with
[04:02] <gnomefreak> too ugly as in? bad code?
[04:03] <asac> no ... not code ... but bad concept
[04:03] <asac> the patch is clean
[04:03] <asac> right way to go
[04:03] <asac> so we go it
[04:03] <asac> :)
[04:03] <asac> for feisty
[04:03] <gnomefreak> k
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i have 1.5.0.9 patched for it on my site. but since you got to 1.5.0.10 before me i didnt buid it ;)
[04:05] <gnomefreak> build*
[04:05] <gnomefreak> this keyboard is a pita to type on
[04:05] <asac> sure
[04:05] <asac> will upload
[04:06] <asac> will be in archive soon
[04:06] <asac> official i mean
[04:07] <gnomefreak> i hope no conflict ;) but shouldnt since its .10
[04:07] <asac> already builds
[04:07] <asac> no changes needed
[04:07] <gnomefreak> cool
[04:17] <asac> i don't know why but i still get a bunch of ubuntu-bugs mails
[04:17] <asac> definitly not all ... but some :/
[04:18] <asac> hmm those are mostly mails from Feb 20 ... probably pretty late arrival :)+
[04:19] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 86338 can you look at when you get time
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86338 in firefox "Crash on submitting forum reply (AnandTech)" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86338
[04:20] <gnomefreak> asac: so do i
[04:20] <gnomefreak> they calmed down just before i left home and now they are going backt o both my emails :(
[04:20] <asac> master IM_get_input_context
[04:20] <asac> search for it
[04:20] <asac> its duplicate
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:21] <asac> bug 85627
[04:21] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85627 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@ IM_get_input_context]  when watching video" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85627
[04:21] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:21] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:22] <asac> took it and set milestone feisty, as upstream has a patch iirc
[04:24] <gnomefreak> looks like they have gone through a few patches
[04:25] <gnomefreak> are we gonna patch edgys also?  the reporter of the bug i gave is on edgy
[04:25] <asac> no
[04:25] <asac> edgy
[04:25] <asac> will only receive security updates
[04:25] <gnomefreak> what do i tell him?
[04:25] <asac> if upstream lands this, this will end up in security update ... otherwise not
[04:26] <gnomefreak> k
[04:26] <asac> has been nominated for 1.8.1.3
[04:26] <asac> so maybe in 2.0.0.3 it will be fixed
[04:27] <gnomefreak> k
[04:27] <asac> you run feisty on main desktop right?
[04:29] <asac> hi hjmf
[04:31] <gnomefreak> hi hjmf
[04:38] <gnomefreak> no matter what i do i cant get apport to run on feisty retraces. im removing them from my to do list until i can figure this bs out
[04:39] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[04:39] <asac> missing debug symbol version?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> i keep getting htat damn Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[04:39] <gnomefreak> error
[04:40] <asac> so wrong version
[04:40] <asac> you don't have old version in cache?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> only version 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[04:40] <gnomefreak> in apt-cache show
[04:41] <asac> where is 2.0.0.2?
[04:41] <asac> maybe you need apt-get update`
[04:41] <asac> ?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> ackage: firefox 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 is what it crashed on
[04:41] <asac> ah
[04:41] <asac> but you don't have packages?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> i have everything i would need to do it
[04:42] <gnomefreak> but no matter what i do i get that error. hjmf said 2.0.0.1+1 fixes that error and it doesnt
[04:44] <asac> maybe you have non-matching -dbgsym packages?
[04:44] <asac> try not to download -dbgsym ?
[04:44] <asac> what happens then?
[04:44] <asac> with just -dbg installed?
[04:44] <asac> at least firefox parts should be symbolized then i guess
[04:45] <gnomefreak> brb ill try
[04:46] <gnomefreak> it grabs most of the -dbgsym packages it failed on one only
[04:47] <asac> hjmf: any idea?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> same error without the -d
[04:54] <gnomefreak> im gonna try in non chroot but i think it was same
[04:54] <asac> if you can't do it ... reassign to hjmf ... if can't neither ... reject bug
[04:55] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[04:55] <gnomefreak> might have a bigger issue
[04:55] <asac> you?
[04:55] <asac> or we?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace cant be run in feisty non chroot
[04:56] <gnomefreak> apport-unpack works
[04:56] <asac> gnomefreak: when you visit bugs with title "... in __kernel_vsyscall()" ... can you drop that info?
[04:56] <asac> apparently there are some triagers that think these are duplicates
[04:57] <gnomefreak> yeah i can
[04:57] <asac> i found a chat about this in #ubuntu-bugs that found that they could really earn lots of karma by marking them duplicates ... and decided to go ahead soon
[04:57] <asac> so probably we should be faster :)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> why didnt the -bugs people stop them :(
[04:57] <asac> unfortunately they disappeared before I could raise my veto
[04:57] <asac> don't know ... i guess they are -bugs people themselves
[04:58] <asac> just "crash" in title is enough :)
[04:58] <asac> when they go ahead and duplicate those ... i will get a missle :)
[04:58] <asac> i do when i visit as well :)
[04:58] <gnomefreak> yeah i will search them now since i cant do crap with feisty apport. can you ping pitt about this crap? i will post retrace.log in a few minutes so you have something to show him
[04:59] <asac> ok mt-feisty preview archive contains latest thunderbird with reply to list extension
[05:00] <asac> aeh
[05:00] <asac> patch
[05:00] <asac> 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu1
[05:00] <asac> gnomefreak: i am most interested to get to know if if gnome menu has proper icons ... can you try on your desktop feisty?
[05:00] <asac> we are now using official branding
[05:01] <asac> so there should be the blue bird in menu
[05:01] <gnomefreak> for 1.5.0.10?
[05:01] <asac> yes
[05:01] <asac> 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu1
[05:02] <gnomefreak> changing bugs to [apport]  firefox-bin crashed ?
[05:03] <asac> yeah ... drop apport ... and -bin :)
[05:03] <asac> no need for that info
[05:03] <gnomefreak> k
[05:03] <asac> just firefox crashes
[05:03] <asac> :)
[05:03] <asac> or ... "firefox crash"
[05:04] <hjmf> hi gnomefreak asac I was doing something else
[05:04] <asac> no problem
[05:04] <asac> can you look at one of the traces gnomefreak failed to do?
[05:04] <asac> and see if it works for you ... and in case ... how?
[05:04] <hjmf> gnomefreak: give me an example
[05:05] <gnomefreak> give me a minute i will post one
[05:05] <gnomefreak> i have to rerun one
[05:05] <hjmf> people.ubuntu.com is up again :)
[05:05] <asac> hjmf: those are the "frame did not save the PC"
[05:05] <asac> hjmf: yes :)
[05:05] <asac> faster then ever
[05:05] <hjmf> cool
[05:06] <gnomefreak> asac: here is list of bugs that we need to change. Ill be working on them here and there see if i cant get apport to work also
[05:08] <asac> gnomefreak: just change a few ... i will do the rest when you are ready
[05:10] <asac> :)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> hjmf: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/382379
[05:12] <hjmf> gnomefreak: k
[05:12] <gnomefreak> ty
[05:13] <asac> hjmf: you think today is a good day to try your mass-retrace-everything-automagic-in-chroot-script ... now that pitti archive is up?
[05:15] <hjmf> That's my idea
[05:15] <gnomefreak> hjmf: let me know if you want me to rerun it with the -d
[05:15] <hjmf> ok
[05:20] <hjmf> gnomefreak: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6633235/retraced_Stacktrace.txt
[05:20] <hjmf> I dont get the error
[05:20] <gnomefreak> i do
[05:21] <gnomefreak> what apport are you using?
[05:21] <hjmf>  dpkg -l | grep firefox | awk '{print $2" "$3}'
[05:21] <hjmf> firefox 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf> firefox-dbg 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf> firefox-gnome-support 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf> firefox-themes-ubuntu 0.5.4.1
[05:21] <hjmf> libnspr4 1.firefox2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf> libnss3 1.firefox2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf> mozilla-firefox-gnome-support 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[05:21] <hjmf>  dpkg -l | grep apport | awk '{print $2" "$3}'
[05:21] <hjmf> apport 0.61
[05:21] <hjmf> python-apport 0.61
[05:22] <asac> hjmf: why are versions mixed up for you?
[05:22] <asac> e.g. firefox 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 != libnspr4 1.firefox2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[05:23] <hjmf> Because of the script, it only removes and installs firefox from my cache
[05:23] <asac> ah
[05:23] <asac> maybe worth updating
[05:24] <hjmf> asac: I'll see if I can get those packages from old repos
[05:24] <asac> ah
[05:24] <asac> no ... if it works that way ... fine
[05:24] <hjmf> ok
[05:24] <asac> though libnss3 has changed a lot
[05:24] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i have same versions of everything
[05:24] <asac> but we rarely see crashes in there
[05:24] <asac> so probably not important to have the right one there
[05:24] <gnomefreak> hjmf: your using chroot?
[05:24] <hjmf> gnomefreak: yes
[05:25] <gnomefreak> me too
[05:25] <hjmf> gnomefreak: look at the script at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu
[05:25] <hjmf> not sure if it will help you though
[05:26] <gnomefreak> not unless it magicly fixes errors
[05:26] <hjmf> asac: if versions really matter I can do it, no problem, it will take a bit more to change between retraces
[05:27] <asac> hmmm firefox-dbg is probably the biggest beast :)
[05:27] <asac> gnomefreak: you have an up-to-date feisty?
[05:27] <asac> aptitude dist-upgrade ??
[05:27] <hjmf> gnomefreak: the only changes between latest packages are those in the script
[05:28] <gnomefreak> uptodate from before i left in chroot. my non chroot feisty is fully up to date i will try with that.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> gonna try a few things
[05:30] <gnomefreak> it wasnt working before i left either
[05:30] <gnomefreak> i will be back shortly need to find lunch
[05:31] <hjmf> bon appetit!
[05:37] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/feisty-retraces$ apport-retrace -s -v -d 86637 2>&1 | tee retrace.log
[05:37] <gnomefreak> :(
[05:37] <gnomefreak> bash: apport-retrace: command not found
[05:38] <gnomefreak> thats on a fully uptodate feisty
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ha new apport package :(
[05:43] <hjmf> yes, noticed apport 0.63
[05:43] <hjmf> have to test yet
[05:44] <gnomefreak> also no -d flag now
[05:45] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace: error: no such option: -d
[05:45] <gnomefreak> -v takes its place it seems
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ok bbs
[05:46] <hjmf> apport-retrace seems not to be there ??
[05:47] <hjmf> ... ok different package
[05:50] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace is the package name
[05:51] <gnomefreak> WARNING: could not install missing packages: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[05:51] <gnomefreak> that cant be good
[05:51] <hjmf> maybe removing that lock file
[05:52] <gnomefreak> yeah but it shouldnt do that :(
[05:52] <asac> if you break a running dpkg process ... that might happen
[05:52] <asac> e.g. not break, but shutdown or something
[05:52] <asac> try apt-get update
[05:52] <asac> maybe it cleans up
[05:52] <gnomefreak> ill try
[05:53] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling its apport-retrace though
[05:53] <asac> gnomefreak: you tried if latest tbird has good menu items?
[05:54] <hjmf> the non existing -C option makes apport-retrace download all the dbgsym again
[05:54] <asac> gnome menu i mean :)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> asac: not yet
[05:54] <hjmf> IMHO not a good upgrade
[05:55] <asac> gnomefreak: we have a few hours left i guess
[05:55] <hjmf> ... unless it improves something else
[05:56] <hjmf> OMG what a huge python exception!!!
[05:56] <gnomefreak> fixing the tb thing now i had your repo # out
[05:56] <hjmf> \me is going to downgrade to apport 0.61
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-devel@
[05:57] <gnomefreak> has info
[05:58] <gnomefreak> pitti just sent it
[06:01] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[06:02] <hjmf> gnomefreak: have you make work new apport-retrace?
[06:03] <hjmf> or at least not crash :/
[06:03] <gnomefreak> hjmf: no not yet i am trying to grab new tb to test
[06:03] <hjmf> k
[06:04] <gnomefreak> asac: i cant upgrade to your version. is this expected?
[06:05] <asac> again the same problem as last time i guess :)
[06:05] <gnomefreak> Installed: 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu1+mt Candidate: 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu1+mt
[06:05] <asac> try remove and install ... do you see that version in apt-cache show
[06:06] <gnomefreak> no its not there but i will try reinstalling it
[06:14] <gnomefreak> nope still only wants to install 1.5.0.9
[06:15] <gnomefreak> give me a few to work on this and get them installed
[06:16] <asac> use apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird=1.5.0.10-0ubuntu1
[06:16] <asac> or whatever version it is
[06:16] <asac> please fast :)
[06:16] <asac> the upload is going up ... i would like to verify :)
[06:17] <gnomefreak> E: Version '1.5.0.10-0ubuntu1' for 'mozilla-thunderbird' was not found
[06:17] <gnomefreak> im downloading them from the repo manully
[06:17] <asac> ok
[06:17] <gnomefreak> since your repo doesnt like me
[06:18] <asac> you might have disabled repos that don't have a Release file
[06:18] <asac> e.g. a non-signed/trusted release file
[06:18] <gnomefreak> not getting those errors though
[06:20] <gnomefreak> yep icon is there (i had to add it but the bird is there)
[06:21] <gnomefreak> had to add icon for panel launcher
[06:21] <gnomefreak> might have been from leaving the icon on panel after removing tb
[06:23] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[06:23] <asac> in menu its there?
[06:23] <asac> but panel broke?
[06:23] <asac> hmm
[06:24] <gnomefreak> after removing tb and installing new tb the icon was set to none
[06:24] <asac> ok
[06:24] <asac> think not much we can do about
[06:24] <gnomefreak> nope i think that was just here
[06:25] <gnomefreak> did you happen to build enigma?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> engmail
[06:26] <gnomefreak> even
[06:27] <gnomefreak> i thought i remember it building when tb was built but its not here
[06:39] <gnomefreak> even after sudo rm -rf lock (cd'ed to right place) i still get WARNING: could not install missing packages: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[06:40] <gnomefreak> and Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[06:51] <gnomefreak> filed bug report on it, lets see what happens
[06:51] <asac> gnomefreak: enigmail is in archive
[06:51] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:51] <asac> but it always has been :)
[06:51] <asac> should still be compatible
[06:51] <asac> its not here?
[06:52] <asac> maybe you have some problems?
[06:52] <asac> no your system apt cache :)
[06:52] <asac> s/no/in/
[06:52] <gnomefreak> its not http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-feisty/
[06:53] <gnomefreak> s/its not/its not on
[06:57] <asac> no ... there is no enigmail
[06:57] <asac> its not needed
[06:57] <asac> its in feisty
[06:57] <asac> is a separate source
[06:57] <asac> package
[06:57] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[06:58] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335028
[06:58] <Ubugtu> Mozilla bug 335028 in Widget: Gtk "Firefox 1.5.0.2 Linux topcrash [@ IM_get_input_context] " [Critical,Assigned] 
[06:58] <asac> was just moved to 1.8.1.4
[06:58] <asac> denied for 2.0.0.3
[06:58] <asac> damn mozilla people ... deny fix for no. 1 top-crash
[06:58] <AlexLatchford> Hey im just adding the preview repositories to my system. Is version 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1 or 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1.mt2 newer?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> what was thier reason?
[06:59] <AlexLatchford> i am presuming .t2
[06:59] <asac> mt2
[06:59] <asac> yes
[06:59] <AlexLatchford> okay, ill install that
[06:59] <asac> does it upgrade do you?
[06:59] <asac> or not?
[06:59] <AlexLatchford> ill test
[06:59] <asac> the idea was that it upgrades when running dist-upgrade
[06:59] <asac> automatically
[06:59] <AlexLatchford> yeah it spots it when it is in the Update manager
[06:59] <asac> gnomefreak: did you run dist-upgrade or just upgrade
[06:59] <gnomefreak> both
[07:00] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: what version did you have before upgrade?
[07:00] <asac> AlexLatchford: gnomefreak hat problem to get new version as upgrade... let us now if it works for you :)
[07:00] <asac> s/hat/had/
[07:00] <AlexLatchford> I believe I had 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> I am using the GUI update manager and it picked it up
[07:01] <asac> mt2 contains some more patches ... however i konw that it crashes mplayer instead of totem :/ ... already have a new version of patch. Will probably land in .mt3
[07:01] <gnomefreak> asac: ff wasnt a problem it was tb
[07:01] <asac> gnomefreak: you had problems with firefox too
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> yeah it hasn't picked up 1.5.0.10
[07:01] <asac> no?
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> that was what I wanted to test
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> nope
[07:01] <asac> crazy
[07:01] <asac> what is previous version?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah bit that was different i think i used my version of fx and thats why
[07:02] <AlexLatchford> 1.5.0.9
[07:02] <asac> hmm
[07:02] <AlexLatchford> i am on currently
[07:02] <asac> maybe it only upgrades if you already have a version from the preview archive?
[07:02] <asac> AlexLatchford: what is exact package version?
[07:02] <AlexLatchford> it also had an error about Source.gz file not being present when I added the respositories via the GUI Source List Manager
[07:03] <asac> AlexLatchford: yes .... thats true ... have not pushed sources, because orig.tar.gz is always huge :)
[07:03] <asac> should be no problem for bin packages though
[07:03] <asac> i guess i miss a Release file in the archive
[07:03] <AlexLatchford> how do I find the exact package?
[07:03] <AlexLatchford> which command?
[07:03] <asac> COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l mozilla-thunderbird
[07:04] <AlexLatchford> 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu1
[07:04] <omgponiezlol> yes, this is Freddy
[07:04] <omgponiezlol> i dunno why that happened
[07:08] <Admiral_Chicago> asac gnomefreak 'omgponiezlol' is my alternate nick
[07:08] <Admiral_Chicago> seems like the network went crazy on me
[07:08] <asac> oh
[07:08] <asac> you can bind your secondary nick
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i know i did a /whois
[07:08] <asac> so you are still cloaked
[07:08] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: ^^^
[07:08] <gnomefreak> ;)
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> really? i'll fiddle with nickserv then
[07:09] <asac> oh
[07:09] <asac> you are not cloaked at all
[07:09] <asac> gnomefreak: how do ubuntu members get a cloak?
[07:09] <asac> like you have?
[07:10] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: you can definitly bind nicks so you stay identified ... if you are not
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> no i'm not..wait a sec
[07:10] <gnomefreak> asac: talk to seveas (not sure who is doing them now) i can ping them if you want
[07:10] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: i think its on some cloak tutorial page of freenode
[07:10] <asac> e.g. the info how to bind nicks
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, i was doing the wrong passowrd
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[07:43] <asac> ok ... out for the night
[07:46] <Admiral_Chicago> night
[07:46] <hjmf> see you
[08:13] <hjmf> .. enough for me. Bye
[08:51] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm thats strange :(
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: did you read the replies on bug 89704?
[08:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89704 in firefox "No backport of Firefox 2.o to Dapper" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89704
[09:00] <gnomefreak> firefox doesnt meet the backport requirments anyway
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i'll look now
[09:25] <gnomefreak> wonders if that answers any questions
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> it does
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> okay cool
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: we aren't on the fridge for tomorrow
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> are we meeitng here?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> can i have link
[09:29] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> wait, we are...wth
[09:29] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 05 Mar 16:00: Scribes Team | 06 Mar 13:00: Mozilla Team | 06 Mar 15:00: MOTU meeting | 06 Mar 18:00: New York LoCo Team | 07 Mar 07:00: Edubuntu | 07 Mar 12:00: First Launchpad Users meeting
[09:29] <gnomefreak> sure we are
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> but, it's not on the front page
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> wait, it is
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> dang, i need new glasses...