[12:16] <_Daisuke_Ido_> eagles0513875: honestly, i'm not too sure
[12:16] <eagles0513875> anyone know whats so great bout fx processor line
[12:16] <SolidSource> FX line is supposed to be optimized for entertainment
[12:17] <eagles0513875> good for gaming and video rendering
[12:17] <SolidSource> similar to intels VIIV
[12:17] <Cutler_> Hello all
[12:17] <delight> fx is good for burning a bucket of electricity .. thats what i heared of
[12:17] <_Daisuke_Ido_> so the equivalent of a P4?
[12:17] <SolidSource> but just as AMD came out with the first dual core...they already have the first quad core out
[12:17] <delight> on that topic that little Mac mini is running with about 25 Watts (i read that somewhere)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> lol wasnt intel the first with those for servers
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> dual processors, not dual cores
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> (i... think.)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> well intel has quad core processors
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i know i've seen dual processor setups with xeons
[12:18] <eagles0513875> and i also saw an article where intel developed a processor with 80 cores
[12:18] <eagles0513875> for high end research machines
[12:20] <delight> eagles0513875: big companies are using clusters with opterons mostly right now
[12:20] <eagles0513875> really
[12:20] <delight> all big new installations i heared of are using opterons
[12:20] <eagles0513875> r there any 939 opterons out there
[12:20] <SolidSource> all the same both intel and amd have their benefits...AMD is better on power/performance management, where as intel will maintain performance, but at a high cost in both intial and over time
[12:20] <delight> like for example ebay is big into opteron/solaris/jave ee
[12:21] <delight> or any other new installation on acadamic or so
[12:21] <delight> they all use opterons lately
[12:21] <eagles0513875> solaris though i tried but it way to intensive processor wise and ram wise
[12:21] <eagles0513875> not to mention desktop for solaris suxs
[12:21] <eagles0513875> r there any 939 opterons
[12:22] <SolidSource> what we have to do is wait and see what AMD is going to do with its aquisation of ATI
[12:22] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:23] <SolidSource> though I prefer Nvidia over ATI
[12:23] <eagles0513875> same here
[12:23] <eagles0513875> especially when it comes to linux
[12:23] <eagles0513875> i hope that ati improves their linux support
[12:24] <SolidSource> they will most likely now that AMD has them, since AMD is more the chosen processor for linux
[12:24] <eagles0513875> sweet
[12:25] <eagles0513875> that would make my life so much easier to get this open gl stuff to work right
[12:26] <SolidSource> now software with more features would be nice....cause trying to get thunderbird to shrink to tray is not going well
[12:30] <Alarm>  hello, is there any way to create a bar at the top of my screen , where i can add shortcuts and that will be invisible. of course i want only this one to be invisible. i added a panel, but when i make the transparency, the configuration counts also for the main bar, and i dont want that. is there any way ?
[12:31] <SolidSource> Alarm: you can speciallize each bar separately
[12:31] <muuhBDXi> some one is flooding my modem what can i do about it ?
[12:31] <Alarm> SolidSource,  how ?
[12:31] <Alarm> SolidSource,  if i knew i wouldnt ask :)
[12:32] <SolidSource> Alarm: setting one up now so I can give better directions
[12:33] <Alarm> SolidSource,  i did manage to add a panel, but when making it transparent , the bottom main taskbar becomes also transparent. something that i dont want
[12:33] <Alarm> and cant find a dock bar to work on the upper place
[12:33] <muuhBDXi> (:>	some one is flooding my modem what can i do about it ?
[12:33] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  install a firewall
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> how do i install a firewall on a modem ?
[12:34] <yettenet> How can I install a .deb package?
[12:34] <Alarm> u install a firewall on ur kubuntu system
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> the modem is getin flooded
[12:34] <yettenet> Ah, I see
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> even with the computer off
[12:34] <jake_> guys ive checked "ubuntu desktop" in synapting knowing hat i can use ubuntu instead of kubuntu. but when i try to boot to genome only the brown background appears
[12:35] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: if you restart it, will the ip change?
[12:35] <Alarm> yettenet,  dpkg -i <debfile name>
[12:35] <jake_> help guys pleaese
[12:35] <muuhBDXi> it changes some times i guess
[12:35] <muuhBDXi> but the flood keeps going
[12:35] <Alarm> muuhBDXi, if u close ur computer the modem will also close, if its a usb or a pci one .
[12:36] <Alarm> unless u got an old serial usb
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> has soon has i start the modem the led starts to flash
[12:36] <SolidSource> Alarm: hmm I guess I was thinking something else... but I quess you try something like superkaramba
[12:36] <Alarm> SolidSource,  superkaramba doesnt do what i want to
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> it a cable modem
[12:36] <sulaiman> why is "KDevelop" greyd out in the Add/Remove Programs ??
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> uses ethernet
[12:36] <Alarm> router maybe ?
[12:36] <Alarm> modem-router
[12:36] <scribz> how do you get konsole to recognise alt-right for irssi
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> just modem
[12:37] <Alarm> a modem doesnt connect to a computer via ethernet, sorry
[12:37] <Alarm> i dont know what u are talking about
[12:37] <muuhBDXi> the modem lights are always flashing even if everthing else is off
[12:37] <jake_> guys?
[12:37] <Alarm> first i think u must find out what kind of device you got.
[12:37] <igorjr> so, does the connection go down, or are you just worried about the flashing lights?
[12:38] <muuhBDXi> both
[12:38] <SolidSource> Alarm: well you could just hide the program bar...but doesn't seem to do it the way I was thinking
[12:38] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  install gkrellm , and check the traffic as also the connections opened
[12:38] <muuhBDXi> i worried the modem is being used buy some pedofiles to watch dfirty pics
[12:38] <Alarm> if u dont see any activity, then u shouldnt worry
[12:39] <muuhBDXi> the trafic is only going on in the modem
[12:39] <muuhBDXi> not in the os ethernet card
[12:39] <Alarm> lastly, how do u know u are being attacked with icmps or udps from outside ? flashing lights shows an active modem. it would be bad if they wouldnt flash
[12:39] <Alarm> install a traffic monitor to see what is happening
[12:40] <Alarm> so u will know from which ips u get 'hit' and if you get
[12:40] <muuhBDXi> the trafic isnt coming to the computer
[12:40] <muuhBDXi> its just on the modem and its geting flooded
[12:40] <jake_> bonbonthejon:ive checked "ubuntu desktop" in synapting knowing hat i can use ubuntu instead of kubuntu. but when i try to boot to genome only the brown background appears
[12:40] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  modem=ur computer
[12:41] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: with modems there is always some traffic coming and going, though yoiu may not see it...
[12:41] <mortici> how do i get udev to set certain perams for a device, like permissions?
[12:41] <Alarm> its not a router that has its own ip.
[12:41] <muuhBDXi> modem isnt on the computer is a stand alone device ataches to the computer thru a ethernet cable
[12:41] <bonbonthejon> jake_: where are you selecting gnome
[12:41] <Alarm> a modem just forwards the packages to ur computer
[12:41] <Alarm> muuhBDXi, what kind of modem is that
[12:41] <Alarm> model , brand
[12:41] <jake_> bonbonthejon: in the boot screen
[12:41] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: modem is a modem, they all work the same no matter how they connect to the computer
[12:42] <Alarm> why not checking the nat configuration ?
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> jake_: boot or kdm/gdm?
[12:42] <muuhBDXi> a cable modem is the same has a dialup modem ?
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: no
[12:42] <muuhBDXi> tell that to SolidSource
[12:43] <muuhBDXi> must be some RIAA/NSA atack
[12:43] <Alarm> log into your modem and check the system or secutiry logs
[12:43] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks to everyone who helped me get ktorrent working
[12:43] <jake_> bonbonthejon: no its in the left side of the panel where your user name/ pass apears, "sessione type"
[12:44] <muuhBDXi> how do you login to your modem ?
[12:44] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  read your manual
[12:44] <Alarm> i am not a wizard
[12:44] <muuhBDXi> theres no manual
[12:44] <Alarm> online manual
[12:44] <igorjr> google
[12:44] <Alarm> thats why u got google
[12:44] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: is this a cable modem?
[12:44] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  as much i understood yes
[12:45] <muuhBDXi> i said it was a cable modem twice allreddy
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> jake_: ask in #ubuntu for help getting gnome working
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: there is no logging in that you need to do
[12:46] <tarnold> so how do i get the libdcss or whats it called to get dvds or vid files....
[12:46] <muuhBDXi> could you rephrase that please ?
[12:46] <tarnold> what ever  you use to get DVD's or video files to work?
[12:47] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: for a cable modem there is no user-name/password logginng in, the modem will get a signal from the ISP
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> this problem started after installing some torrents tool bar on firedox
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> firefox
[12:47] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: thats why...torrent bar is always updating
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> but ive desabled it along time ago
[12:48] <muuhBDXi> its not working anymore
[12:48] <tro> is there any way to get informational messages on all services starting during boot instead of the usplash screen?
[12:48] <tro> i uninstalled usplash 'cause it was causing problems anyway, but now i'm just staring at a dark screen while kubuntu loads
[12:48] <muuhBDXi> must be some RIAA/NSA atack
[12:49] <bonbonthejon> tro: alt-f1?
[12:49] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: you are experiancing a performance drop right?
[12:49] <muuhBDXi> yes
[12:49] <muuhBDXi> lagg
[12:49] <duckdown> Hey all, question here :)  I am connecting a colo box, using ssh -X (X forwarding) from my laptop here in Kubuntu.  I can run things like 'firefox' and other GUI/X11 executables just fine, but when I do a 'startx' and try to get into a WM, it appears to be running and no (EE) errors show up, but my WM window never pops open.  When I CTRL+C it says killing connection to 0:0 so it THINKS its working.  What can I do?
[12:50] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: ok, have you reset the modem yet?
[12:50] <muuhBDXi> sometimes pages dont load at 1st try
[12:50] <tro> bonbonthejon: during boot? must've been too obvious to try :p can i have that tty displayed by default though?
[12:50] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: and are you in the US?
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> i have pressed the rset thing on its back yes
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> no
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> im in the EU
[12:51] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no, press reset, unplug it while holding reset, and then plugin
[12:51] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: try unplugging the cable modem for 10 sec, then plug back in
[12:52] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: may have to re-insert your login info if its required
[12:52] <bonbonthejon> tro: pressing alt-f1 during boot gets rid of usplash and displays the normal boot up stes
[12:52] <muuhBDXi> ive turned it off for a long time
[12:52] <muuhBDXi> you recon its my ISP flooding me ?
[12:53] <muuhBDXi> how could the bitorrent duds find my modem everytime ?
[12:53] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: because bittorrent publishes your IP
[12:54] <muuhBDXi> the ip has chnaged
[12:54] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: if its cable, it technically shouldn't change
[12:54] <muuhBDXi> why not ?
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> it shouldnt change VERY OFTEN
[12:55] <muuhBDXi> it changes evry once in a wile
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> same idea
[12:55] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: well most cable ISPs use static IPs...that way what ever you do is traced back to you and you alone
[12:56] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but yes it can change, but rarely...there is one other option though ...change the DNS
[12:56] <muuhBDXi> SolidSource: so is that the way they use to protect my personal data ?
[12:57] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: router and computer firewall....always should have a router, even if you only have 1 computer
[12:57] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: no, it's so that big brother can watch you easier
[12:58] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but I'm betting your ISPs DNS is being flooded, when such thing happened to me, I changed DNS and got a boost in speed
[12:58] <muuhBDXi> how do i change it ?
[12:59] <muuhBDXi> isnt the other DNS being flooded too ?
[01:00] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: there are thousands of DNS servers out there...I don't even use my ISPs servers, I use Verizons
[01:00] <muuhBDXi> whats DNS got to do with this problem ?
[01:00] <muuhBDXi> shouldnt you use a DNS near to you ?
[01:01] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: not always
[01:01] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: DNS takes things like "www.google.com" and finds the corresponding IP for it
[01:01] <muuhBDXi> but the modem gets flooded even if the computer is turned off
[01:02] <muuhBDXi> so the modem must be geting the DNS on its owne
[01:02] <jake_> bonbonthejon: no response on #ubuntu :-) what do you think if i reinstall gnome?
[01:02] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: again, the lights should rarely ever stop...cause its keeping its connection
[01:02] <bonbonthejon> jake_: I've gone from ubuntu and added kubuntu, but not the other way around
[01:02] <muuhBDXi> the light used to flash a bit has it was registering and stop soon after
[01:03] <muuhBDXi> but now its alaways flashinf even with the computer off
[01:03] <jake_> bonbonthejon: what did you do?
[01:04] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: which light is it though? should be atleast 1 light for connection and 1 for traffic
[01:04] <muuhBDXi> it flashes the Rx on the cale side and the Tx on the lan side
[01:04] <bonbonthejon> jake_: install kubuntu_desktop, i think is the package, just like ubuntu_desktop, which you tried
[01:04] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <muuhBDXi> cale = cable
[01:05] <muuhBDXi> what ever that Rx Tx means !?
[01:05] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: Rx=receive, Tx=transmit
[01:06] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:06] <jake_> yes but, is ubuntu not compatible with my laptop?
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> jake_: why would it not be
[01:06] <muuhBDXi> so some one is spoofing my modem ?
[01:06] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: possibly
[01:07] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:07] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: might want to change certian settings on the modem itself
[01:08] <muuhBDXi> should i pick up the soldring iron ?
[01:08] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: should be able to change them by going into firefox and entering your own IP
[01:08] <muuhBDXi> how do i change seting on the modem ?
[01:09] <muuhBDXi> SolidSource: is that a joke ?
[01:09] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no, but it all depends on how the modem was designed
[01:09] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: It's probably 192.68.0.1
[01:09] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: yeah if its not your own IP than 192.68.0.1
[01:09] <jake_> bonbonthejon: i dont know, because ive tried it the second time, first on my installation on ubuntu, now here again
[01:10] <muuhBDXi> ive read that you could telenet to the modem
[01:10] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: use firefox :b
[01:10] <coreymon77> hi guys
[01:11] <coreymon77> my /home directory is on a LVM partition
[01:11] <coreymon77> something messed up
[01:11] <coreymon77> and now i cannot acces
[01:11] <coreymon77> it
[01:11] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:12] <coreymon77> all i want it to be able to get a few files off of it, then ill reinstall kubuntu
[01:12] <coreymon77> how do i get the files
[01:12] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: are you in your modems settings page?
[01:13] <muuhBDXi> theres no modem seting page
[01:14] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: ok, set the DNS in system settings
[01:14] <muuhBDXi> the only why to connect to the modem is thru telnet and the modem has to be disconnected from the internet
[01:15] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but before yoiu set the DNS, you need to find an DNS to use
[01:16] <CShadowRun> hmm, im trying to get the drivers for my raid drives
[01:16] <CShadowRun> the options for linux os's are Novell, Red Hat and SuSE
[01:16] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: openDNS.com is a good one
[01:17] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: if you go to that site, you can get the IPs you need
[01:18] <killermach> synaptic isn't finding cinelerra for ubuntu? what am I missing?
[01:19] <neoncode> Does Linux have a driver for the Intel High Definition Audio that's built into the nForce 680i chipset motherboards?
[01:20] <muuhBDXi> openDNS.com ?
[01:21] <muuhBDXi> is that a phising site ?
[01:21] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no its a DNS server
[01:21] <doudoo> hello
[01:21] <doudoo> adept dont want to install e17
[01:21] <CShadowRun> come on guys i need help here :P
[01:21] <doudoo> it said break
[01:22] <doudoo> can somedoby help
[01:22] <CShadowRun> trying to get the drivers for my RAID Controller, the only options are Novell, red hat, SuSE turbo and solaris
[01:22] <Lord_Maynoth> Is there a command like sudo that gives my account admin privileges without running the program as root?
[01:22] <CShadowRun> which should i choose?
[01:22] <jarn> How do I check the size of a folder?
[01:22] <BluesKaj> CShadowRun, you logon to a Kubuntu chat and ask about other OS's ... nervy
[01:23] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: sudo (or kdesu for graphical apsps)
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> The straight dope
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> Know what you're doing? Here are the addresses of the OpenDNS nameservers:
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> whats strait dope means ?
[01:23] <Lord_Maynoth> well when I use sudo it installs the application as root
[01:23] <CShadowRun> [BluesKaj-> you obviously failed to read the question, im trying to get my raid controller to work IN KUBUNTU
[01:23] <BluesKaj> no lies
[01:23] <Lord_Maynoth> is their anyway to make it install as my account instead of root?
[01:23] <CShadowRun> but the only driver download options are Novell, red hat, SuSE turbo and solaris (there is no ubuntu\debian download)
[01:24] <doudoo> adept says BREAK wen i wanna install e17... how can I repear plz??
[01:24] <BluesKaj> sorry, guess i should have scrolled up
[01:24] <CShadowRun> lol :P
[01:24] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: installing what exactly? and how?
[01:24] <CShadowRun> so, what should i do?
[01:24] <Lord_Maynoth> ktorrent from source
[01:24] <doudoo> with adept or aptitude
[01:24] <CShadowRun> i mean i need my sata's theres 500gb of drive there, but promise only supplys the drivers i listed above :(
[01:24] <Jucato> doudoo: try installing it using apt-get instead, to get more descriptive error messages
[01:24] <CShadowRun> no sign of a ubuntu\debian installer
[01:25] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: why do you need to install it as your user?
[01:25] <Lord_Maynoth> I don't have to, but having to enter a password each time to run a program is annoying
[01:25] <Jucato> er?
[01:25] <Lord_Maynoth> I was hoping there was a way around this
[01:26] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: just because it was installed w/ sudo doesn't mean you have to run the installed app as root
[01:26] <SolidSource> stupid kopete crashing
[01:26] <Lord_Maynoth> it wont let me run it without sudo
[01:26] <Lord_Maynoth> or gksu in the launcher
[01:26] <doudoo> can somedody test the install of e17 cvs with apt-get to see if depots are broken for you too plz? :p
[01:26] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: (we don't have gksu in kubuntu) your compiled ktorrent?
 doudoo: try installing it using apt-get instead, to get more descriptive error messages
[01:27] <Lord_Maynoth> im in ubuntu :c
[01:27] <doudoo> i did
[01:27] <doudoo> it
[01:27] <Jucato> !pastebin | doudoo
[01:27] <ubotu> doudoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <Jucato> doudoo: pastebin the error messages
[01:27] <Lord_Maynoth> I just thought there might be a way to give my account admin privileges without sudo
[01:28] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: there's something wrong w/ how you compiled it then
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> update to feisty :)
[01:28] <eilker>  button 1 is left click , button 3 is right click. what is button 4 ?
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> no don't...yet.
[01:28] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: even if you used "sudo make install", you should be able to run the app as any user
[01:29] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: just curious, did you use "make" or  "sudo make"?
[01:29] <Nontitle> button 4 would be an extra button, if you have a mouse with an extra button
[01:29] <doudoo> Jucato : it's in french... it say it might mis a "paquets"(dont know the name in english) problem
[01:29] <eilker> i see ok, got it
[01:29] <Nontitle> how do i change single-clicking to double-clicking in konqueror?
[01:29] <Jucato> doudoo: oh...
[01:29] <Jucato> Nontitle: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[01:29] <Nontitle> ok thanks Jucato
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> well i couldn't use make
[01:30] <Jucato> huh?
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> so i used unsermake
[01:30] <doudoo> Jucato: thx for your help
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> the program required me to use unsermake
[01:30] <doudoo> bye all
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> but it was not in sudo
[01:30] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: unsermake is only for programs that use CMake.
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: help me now...
[01:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: later!!!
[01:30] <Jucato> lol j/k
[01:31] <Jucato> what is it?
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: haha, no just kidding. I'm getting in on the Jucato FAQ sessien
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> session*
[01:31] <Lord_Maynoth> me /shrug it wouldn't allow me to use make because it complained saying to use unsermake instead
[01:31] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: which version of KTorrent are you compiling? you might be compiling the one for KDE4
[01:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol :)
[01:31] <Lord_Maynoth> 2.1.1
[01:31] <Jucato> let me check
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab.
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: 2.1.1 is in Feisty for 3.5.6
[01:32] <Lord_Maynoth> i did sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent
[01:32] <vbgunz> how do I make a variable system wide? I already put an export VAR=VAL in my .bashrc *but* heard I am supposed to put it somewhere in /etc/local or something similar... anyone know how to make a variable system wide?
[01:32] <Jucato> !info ktorrent feisty
[01:32] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2351 kB, installed size 8860 kB
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> oh it is -0
[01:32] <Jucato> ha! ktorrent site seems to be down
[01:33] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: btw, where are you installing it to? are you using a --prefix= option with ./configure?
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> I wasn't using a --prefix=
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> now
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> no
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> :c
[01:33] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: this is certainly not normal...
[01:34] <Lord_Maynoth> was i supposed to use the --prefix=
[01:34] <Lord_Maynoth> what does that do?
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> go for it
[01:34] <Jucato> !compile | Lord_Maynoth
[01:34] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:36] <Lord_Maynoth> !--prefix=
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prefix= - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <carutsu> hello
[01:38] <carutsu> i'm having problems with my sound... it used to work
[01:40] <carutsu> i'm having problems with my sound... it used to work... it even thinks it's playing music
[01:40] <Lord_Maynoth> ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR would I do that in gnome?
[01:40] <Lord_Maynoth> or would it be ./configure --prefix=$GNOMEDIR
[01:41] <SolidSource> !register > nixhex
[01:43] <carutsu> ...
[01:43] <carutsu> anyone?
[01:43] <posingaspopular> carutsu: whatsthe issue
[01:43] <posingaspopular> specifically?
[01:43] <carutsu> the sound card is detected
[01:43] <carutsu> no sound comes out
[01:44] <carutsu> it used to
[01:44] <posingaspopular> did you check alsa
[01:44] <carutsu> yep and reinstalled them
[01:44] <carutsu> and rebot
[01:45] <carutsu> what's the daemon of the sound?
[01:45] <posingaspopular> !sound
[01:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:45] <posingaspopular> i duno actually
[01:46] <carutsu> thanks anyway.
[01:46] <carutsu> Well another thing... everytime i boot it says there are inconcistencies with my disks and no automatically fixing this...
[01:46] <carutsu> how do i fix this manually?
[01:47] <carutsu> posingaspopular?
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2007/bo070305.gif
[01:48] <posingaspopular> uhh i duno about the disk inconsistencies
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> gah, irssi ftl
[01:49] <posingaspopular> Admiral_Chicago: whats the daemon for sound?
[01:49] <carutsu> i disabled sound then enabled it back and it's looped...
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm using artsd
[01:50] <carutsu> is it the default?
[01:50] <posingaspopular> should be
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> dunno, try alsamixer in a konsole
[01:50] <posingaspopular> i said alsa already
[01:51] <carutsu> well i have an intel sound card
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> dude, alsamixer in a konsole is different
[01:51] <carutsu> and i tiped artds
[01:51] <carutsu> in terminal it told me it was already runing but i dont think so...
[01:51] <posingaspopular> so... kill it and restart
[01:51] <carutsu> thats what im doing
[01:52] <Mr_Sonoma> hi everyone
[01:52] <coreymon77> oh ya!
[01:52] <coreymon77> i did it!
[01:52] <posingaspopular> kay and..
[01:52] <coreymon77> i finally was able to mount that drive in a livecd
[01:53] <carutsu> and it didnt work
[01:53] <carutsu> m...
[01:53] <carutsu> do you know what atd is?
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> not to interrupt but could i possibly get someone to answer a few questions?
[01:54] <posingaspopular> !ask
[01:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> lol ok
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> was trying to be polite
[01:55] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone had any problems getting the resolution right with a savage s3 vid card?
[01:55] <posingaspopular> did you check the documentation?
[01:56] <Mr_Sonoma> dont have doc on the card and their website isnt much help either as its an older card. didnt see anything in the help docs. and ive tried every savage driver listed in the os
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: did you try alsamixer in a terminal
[01:57] <posingaspopular> !documentation
[01:57] <Mr_Sonoma> i could have over looked...to be honest but dont think i have
[01:57] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[01:57] <posingaspopular> !video
[01:57] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:57] <carutsu> alsamixer in terminal no
[01:57] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: alsamixer in terminal no
[01:57] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, long time no see
[01:58] <carutsu> Kmix instead
[01:58] <K-Ryan> Anyway, I need some help
[01:58] <K-Ryan> I'm trying to install this game, http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/
[01:59] <K-Ryan> They don't have a deb package, and I'm not sure how to compile the source
[01:59] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago Line is muted there
[01:59] <carutsu> how do i change that?
[01:59] <carutsu> it says Line [off] 
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> K-Ryan: download the source, then ./configure, then ./make, then ./make install
[02:00] <K-Ryan> Alright, thanks bonbonbthejon
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: M
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> !compile
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[02:00] <carutsu> m...
[02:01] <igorjr> hi, am i able to change the mount-points of my harddrives, after i installed kubuntu?
[02:01] <posingaspopular> !mount
[02:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> if it has green 00s it's on
[02:01] <igorjr> thanks
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> posingaspopular: do a /msg ubotu to investigate him more
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: do you understand?
[02:02] <igorjr> !diskmounter
[02:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:02] <igorjr> !fstab
[02:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:02] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago yes, thanks, didnt work
[02:02] <carutsu> its so weird yesterday i was listening to some music
[02:03] <Exal|away> hi, where is the inittab file in kubuntu?
[02:03] <intelikey> Exal|away depends on the version.   what do you want ?
[02:04] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago how can i rebot totally? i mean, if i turn off and on it saves some info
[02:04] <Exal|away> intelikey: for run some aplications
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: look at system settings >> sessions manager
[02:04] <carutsu> how do i make sure it just boot "from scratch"
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> it may be in advanced
[02:04] <intelikey> Exal|away edgy and up ward use "upstart" rather than SysV-init
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: gotta run
[02:05] <Hasrat_USA> good evening everyone. I have a problem. When I click on the 'Start' menu equivalent of KDE and go to Multimedia, I don't see anything called Volume Monitor and Recording Monitor, but I badly need them to set up stuffs to use Ekiga.
[02:05] <intelikey> Exal|away but you really shouldn't run applications from inittab    ues  /etc/rc.local
[02:05] <intelikey> use
[02:06] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago np, tahankyou
[02:06] <posingaspopular> Hasrat_USA: open a konsole
[02:06] <posingaspopular> actually
[02:06] <Hasrat_USA> posingaspopular: done
[02:06] <posingaspopular> your volume should be on the left side
[02:06] <posingaspopular> type alsa mixer
[02:06] <posingaspopular> and play around in there
[02:07] <posingaspopular> i gotta run
[02:08] <Exal|away> intelikey: ok thanks
[02:09] <Hasrat_USA> I know all about alsamixer but i also know that KDE/Gnome comes with two default applications. 1. volume monitor (that lets you monitor in real time the volume) and 2. recording level monitor (that lets you monitor how loudly or quietly you're speaking into the mic)
[02:09] <Hasrat_USA> I need to figure out a way to add these two applications to the 'start' menu
[02:10] <Hasrat_USA> and I don't know how to add items to the start menu in KDE
[02:10] <intelikey> right click it
[02:11] <intelikey> it's kde, if you want to change something; right click it.
[02:11] <Hasrat_USA> intelikey: then?
[02:12] <intelikey> ah does the words kmenu editor   not give you a clue ?
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Alright, this isn't working
[02:13] <K-Ryan> The source came in a tar.gz which i extracted
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Actually...
[02:13] <K-Ryan> !compile
[02:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:14] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[02:14] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:15] <intelikey> K-Ryan might i ask what you are building ?
[02:17] <cpk1> the world!
[02:17] <cpk1> he is building the world
[02:18] <cpk1> and it will be magnificent!
[02:18] <intelikey> magnificent ?    no just big.
[02:18] <cpk1> no no he is using the -magnificent flag
[02:19] <intelikey> :)
[02:19] <cpk1> =D
[02:21] <intelikey> you gentoo guys crack me up.
[02:26] <hilltop> hello folk, My brother lives 10+ miles to the nearest elextric power, North or South and the same to any phone connection - even no cell. I'm trying to help him with kubuntu.
[02:28] <hilltop> Here is the question. He installed ubuntu 6.06 and has kubuntu CD. I "know" he can add KDE to his existing ubuntu, I did from repos and can log into either.
[02:28] <hilltop> How can he add kubuntu CD to his repo list and have it not be asking for the Internet? Thanks so mush for a great Linux.
[02:29] <voidmage> hilltop: sudo apt-cdrom add
[02:29] <voidmage> at least i think
[02:29] <ubuntu> !mount
[02:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:29] <NDPTAL85> Is there an easy way to install Beryl to my Kubuntu install?
[02:30] <voidmage> what version?
[02:30] <hilltop> thank you voidmage. I told him to just put the CD in and it will ask him about adding it with a popup. I htink htis in fact worked. But any attempt to use it keep asking for the Internet.
[02:30] <voidmage> hmm
[02:31] <NDPTAL85> What version?
[02:31] <hilltop> I gave him ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06, both the same - should be workable. :)
[02:31] <NDPTAL85> I'm running Edgy if you are asking about Kubuntu.
[02:31] <voidmage> not sure if anyone would know about this
[02:31] <voidmage> but somehow my filesystem is mounted as read only now
[02:33] <hilltop> voidmage, according to search just now on google you are correct. That may be the thing I need. Along with getting ride of the rest of the repos
[02:33] <hilltop> voimage, what file system???
[02:33] <xoss> i'm having problems with my dual boot system.. is there a way to bypass grub and boot the pc using the original boot.ini of winXP?
[02:33] <voidmage> hilltop: ext3
[02:33] <voidmage> the relevant fstab line
[02:33] <voidmage> UUID=0f15f1d0-4789-441a-b748-c3473679809c /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:34] <hilltop> is that removable?
[02:34] <voidmage> no, it's root
[02:34] <hilltop> ops
[02:35] <coreymon77> hi guys
[02:36] <coreymon77> what repo contains mondo?
[02:36] <voidmage> coreymon77:  universe
[02:36] <Jucato> !info mondo
[02:36] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[02:37] <coreymon77> im on a dapper livecd
[02:37] <coreymon77> do i have that repo?
[02:37] <voidmage> maybe
[02:37] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:37] <voidmage> try it
[02:37] <coreymon77> because i cant find the package in apt
[02:38] <voidmage> actually, i'm not sure if livecd comes with universe
[02:38] <voidmage> probably doesn't to save space, but don't quote me on that
[02:38] <Jucato> coreymon77: you will have to enable (or add) universe
[02:38] <coreymon77> okay
[02:38] <Jucato> !info mondo dapper
[02:38] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[02:41] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:42] <SolidSource> makuseru: theres a kommander script
[02:42] <makuseru> where?
[02:43] <SolidSource> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53555
[02:44] <SolidSource> theres also http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53610
[02:45] <SolidSource> and if you want to conver directly to DVD theres: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36351
[02:46] <makuseru> i couldnt ever get a DVD to butn
[02:46] <makuseru> burn*(
[02:46] <makuseru> so i ended yup wasting like 4 dvds
[02:46] <makuseru> cause i kept getting errors
[02:46] <makuseru> so now im trying video CDs
[02:47] <SolidSource> ok, that might be fixed in the next release of K3B
[02:47] <SolidSource> 1.0 has a lot of hardware support fixes
[02:48] <gili> does anyone here get the s-video to work in 6.10
[02:49] <makuseru> SolidSource: so thats not just a problem for me? its a general problem?
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Okay I'm back, tried to compile it which wasn't working, then went to dinner
[02:51] <SolidSource> makuseru: its a general problem with any DVD software...though I have never had a problem, I know people that have had problems, especially with HP
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Anyway, I'm trying to build this, http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Physics based game
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Is there anyone that might be able to help?
[02:53] <makuseru> go figure
[02:53] <makuseru> mine is an HP
[02:54] <SolidSource> k-ryan> I'm giving it a go
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Thanks SolidSource
[02:54] <K-Ryan> In one of the comments I read it didn't have a ./configure, might have been changed since that comment was made, but it's something to note.
[02:55] <SolidSource> thats what I was looking for, but can't find one
[02:55] <Jucato> you might have to generate the configure script first
[02:55] <K-Ryan> Hey Jucato, long time no see =)
[02:56] <Jucato> hi K-Ryan
[02:56] <K-Ryan> =)
[02:56] <Jucato> so you're stuck at configure? because it has no configure?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I don't know what to do with it
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I clicked the source link and it opened in Konqueror
[02:57] <SolidSource> did you follow the instructions in INSTALL file?
[02:57] <Jucato> hm... you downloaded the .tar.gz ?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Tried to extract it, and it gave me an error about extracting certain things, but it did extract a bucnh of stuff
[02:57] <K-Ryan> *bunch
[02:58] <SolidSource> k-ryan: extracted with no errors here, might try redownloading
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I'll try again
[02:58] <Jucato> looks like you don't need configure for it
[02:58] <Jucato> the INSTALL file gives instructions :D
[02:58] <SolidSource> yeah
[02:58] <K-Ryan> Oh, I only checked readmes..
[02:58] <Jucato> just make, and make run. no need for make install
[02:59] <Jucato> K-Ryan: when dealing w/ source code, always read INSTALL and README files
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Didn't know that there was more than a readme
[02:59] <K-Ryan> I've been on XP lately, I'm in a gaming mood
[03:00] <Jucato> any good source code tarball will have both INSTALL and README
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Yeah extraction is giving me errors again
[03:00] <Jucato> if it doesn't, then it sucks :)
[03:00] <K-Ryan> A lot of "Not found in archive" stuff
[03:00] <Jucato> O.o
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Mind you this is directly from Konqueror, I haven't figured out how to download the tar.gz
[03:00] <Jucato> K-Ryan: http://www.stolk.org/sturmbahnfahrer/download/sturmbahnfahrer-1.3.tar.gz <---- download that
[03:01] <SolidSource> firefox for the win
[03:01] <Jucato> K-Ryan: in the download page, you can just right-click on the link and select Save target as
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah I clicked that link and it opened in Konqueror for me to browse the files, let's try again...
[03:01] <Jucato> Save Link As
[03:01] <K-Ryan> now it's opening in Ark
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Should I download it?
[03:01] <Jucato> ye
[03:01] <Jucato> yeah
[03:01] <Jucato> unless you don't want to install it :)
[03:02] <K-Ryan> No, I meant should I download the tar.gz
[03:02] <Jucato> btw, it will not really be installed. you will have to use "make run" everytime
[03:02] <Jucato> yes
[03:02] <K-Ryan> That's not a biggie
[03:02] <Jucato> download it somewhere, then extract the contents
[03:02] <Jucato> ok, Jucato-minute over :)
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Thanks Jucato
[03:03] <Jucato> np
[03:03] <NixHex> wonder what I did for kopete to start crashing
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Ark is giving me extraction errors now..
[03:04] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <Jucato> K-Ryan: hm... have you finished downloading it?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Yeah, hold on a second
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Never mind, can't copy and paste it...
[03:05] <NixHex> another reason not to use konqueror...the thing some times hides the download windows and you won't know if it is finished or not
[03:06] <K-Ryan> Here's one line, drwxr-xr-x bram/users 0 2006-09-04 11:50 sturmbahnfahrer-1.3/
[03:06] <Jucato> NixHex: if the download window closes, it's finished
[03:06] <K-Ryan> And when typing ./make sturm.......
[03:06] <NixHex> Jucato: nope, I have had it close the window (basically hid it into the background, nothing in the taskbar) and yet it wasn't finished
[03:06] <Jucato> NixHex: it's actually a Progress Dialog/window. same thing that appears when you are copying/moving files. once the process finishes, it closes. BUt I think that behavior can be changed
[03:06] <K-Ryan> It tells me no such file or directory
[03:07] <Jucato> NixHex: hm... never encounteredt hat before
[03:07] <Jucato> K-Ryan: what are you trying to do? (or how are you doing it?)
[03:07] <killermach_> what app should I use to turn a series of jpegs into a DVD slideshow?
[03:07] <K-Ryan> I had typed ./make <path>
[03:08] <NixHex> Jucato: the download dialog even has crashed leaving a partly downloaded file, and when trying to restart the download it keeps crashing
[03:08] <Jucato> K-Ryan: er no
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Umm, =)
[03:08] <Jucato> K-Ryan: just plain "make"
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Okay, it says nothing to be done
[03:09] <Jucato> K-Ryan: you have to go inside the extracted sturmblablah folder
[03:09] <Jucato> K-Ryan: of course, you have to extract it first...
[03:09] <morphine_> howdy folks, I'm wondering if anyone can offer some advice
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Did
[03:09] <Gh0st75> anyone know how i can restore an ipod in kubuntu?
[03:09] <jack_> hi, i amy trying to fix my mic which doesnt record sound using this post
[03:09] <jack_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255071#10
[03:10] <jack_> but i cannot do this:make sure you turn up the volume using the up arrows.
[03:10] <morphine_> I recently decided to switch from XP to kubuntu, and I also bought a 160gb hard drive for my machine. Kubuntu is currently installed on a 10gb drive... should I make the 160gb /home or just move the whole operation to it?
[03:10] <jack_> how would you do that ?
[03:10] <soulrider> morphine_: maybe you can set fstab to mount ~ on your new drive, but i dunno if that would work
[03:11] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: why not let the installer allocate the space
[03:11] <morphinex> Well, I have the whoile thing on the 10gb now
[03:12] <morphinex> So the question is: will 10g be enough long-term for parts of the system other than /home?
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Alright screw it, I give up
[03:12] <K-Ryan> It's not a big deal, it's a one level game =)
[03:12] <jack_> if you type alsamixer in the konsoler, how do increase the volume in the tabs, e.g. in the capture tab??
[03:12] <morphinex> I'm wishing I had done the whole thing on lvm ;)
[03:12] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: expand the partition to fit the entire drive
[03:13] <NixHex> jack_wyt: is there a little speaker icon in your system tray?
[03:13] <morphinex> The big drive is empty now, not even installed
[03:13] <morphinex> Not in the computer
[03:13] <NixHex> jack_wyt: is there a little speaker icon in your system tray?
[03:13] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: oh, i see the problem
[03:13] <NixHex> whats with the adding wyt on the end
[03:13] <mortici> is there a way to get my computer to boot up with num lock on? like especially KDM/KDE
[03:14] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: I dont think so, best off finding a windows box with itunes
[03:14] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: yeah... so the other option is to just use g4l or g4u or whatever
[03:15] <morphinex> Move the 10gb onto the 160 and then resize the filesystem
[03:15] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: I have a similar set up for my server, I have a whole hard drive mounted as /samba, which is shared by samba, ironically :)
[03:15] <jack_> NixHex: yes i did
[03:16] <bonbonthejon> mortici_: this says for gnome, but you could make changes http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_turn_on_Num_Lock_on_GNOME_startup
[03:17] <DRomeo521> Does anyone know why the 'urgent' flashing (ex. receive new instant message in Gaim) in the kicker does not flash while using Beryl?
[03:17] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: I just wonder if 10gb will be enough for the systemn
[03:17] <K-Ryan> What do you want to do with it?
[03:17] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: i'm also tempted to just wait until 7.04 and start over ;)
[03:18] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: as long as you keep most stuff on the bigger partution
[03:18] <jack_> NixHex: sorry i didnt see the question earlier, in the kmix everything is fine: volume turned up, which colour should the red dot have, red or bright red?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> 10GB just for the OS?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Should be more than enough unless I'm mistaken
[03:18] <Jucato> mortici: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard
[03:18] <morphinex> K-Ryan: yes, and /home would be on another drive
[03:18] <NixHex> jack_wyt: don't think the red one should be selected..but the green one yes
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Yeah that sounds fine
[03:19] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: it is hard to move /home, why not just mount the new drive as a folder in your home folder
[03:19] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: a folder in ~ ?
[03:19] <jack_> NixHex: the red one is for hte mic, but there are switches too, line and mic, which one should i tick?
[03:19] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: like ~/storage
[03:19] <morphinex> what is difficult about moving /home?
[03:20] <NDPTAL85> I feel so proud. I got Beryl installed on my Kubuntu box. This is what Beryl (not my setup) looks like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo83CB8p68&mode=related&search=
[03:20] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:20] <K-Ryan> morphinex I have about 12GB for Kubuntu in general, granted I installed a bunch of stuff, but it's only 45% used
[03:20] <jack_> NixHex: still doesnt work, hell
[03:21] <K-Ryan> And that comes to 6.6GB
[03:21] <morphinex> my 10gb is 70% full with ~ accounting for about 3g
[03:21] <K-Ryan> So you could probably get away with 5GB for straight Kubuntu
[03:21] <NixHex> jack_wyt: yeah neither working
[03:22] <morphinex> Yeah, I guess my concern is a more long-term one
[03:22] <NixHex> jack_wyt: ok, go to the switches tab
[03:22] <morphinex> As I accumulate stuff it might fill up
[03:22] <K-Ryan> 10GB should be good for just the OS
[03:22] <morphinex> ok
[03:22] <K-Ryan> And all the bits and pieces you may download for it
[03:23] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: keep music, movies, etc on the other drive
[03:23] <NixHex> jack_wyt: on the input tab you need the green dot selected for mic, and then on the switches tab, you need to select mic as well
[03:23] <morphinex> I guess that worst case I will just buy another drive down the road, but I'm sure you guys are right
[03:23] <morphinex> thanks for the guide
[03:24] <morphinex> I actually have another issue, all this tlak about the sound system reminded me. When I use teamspeak, I can hear myself through my headphones
[03:24] <morphinex> In fact, I can always hear noise from the mic through the sound system
[03:24] <jack_> jucato:Run alsamixer in console.. Go into the playback "tab" and mute mic. Go into the capture tab, I think f4 and hit space on Mic and space on capture until L R Captur is red under both Mic and Capture. make sure you turn up the volume using the up arrows.
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a way to show certain files on a desktop. so .odt on one, .ogg on another?
[03:25] <Jucato> jack_: huh?
[03:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nope. you can't have different icons per VD
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: didn't think so
[03:25] <surgy> !share
[03:25] <jack_> jucato: do you have any idea how i can in the konsole increase the mic volume like described here?i cannot get it done
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <Jucato> jack_: sorry, don't know...
[03:26] <Jucato> I'm not a sound person...
[03:26] <surgy> how do i share a folder over my network? both computers are running edgy
[03:26] <jack_> Jucato: ok,thanks though..lol
[03:26] <voidmage> What file is the list of installed packages stored on?
[03:26] <surgy> jack_: use kmix its in your kde menu
[03:26] <bonbonthejon> voidmage: none, you can do "dpkg -l"
[03:26] <Jucato> dpkg --get-selections
[03:27] <jack_> surgy: i am doing that, kmix is fine, mic enabled, volume up
[03:27] <NixHex> jack_wyt: you need to enable the mic in the switches tab as well though
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth> hello I have a really dumb question
[03:27] <bonbonthejon> !ask
[03:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <voidmage> I can't dpkg --get-selectiong
[03:27] <voidmage> i'm on a livecd on a corrupted filesyste
[03:28] <voidmage> any suggestions to extract a list of installed packageS:
[03:28] <voidmage> ?
[03:28] <jack_> NixHex: i did that, still no chance
[03:28] <NixHex> Jucato: how do I get it not to address the person alias, cause it keeps changing jack_ to jack_wyt...?
[03:28] <Lord_Maynoth> I have a launcher that requires me to run gksu <program name>     is there a way to make it so I don't have to type in my password?
[03:28] <xoss> my XP still wont boot with GRUB.. previously i can dual boot XP and kubuntu.. help anyone??
[03:28] <surgy> jucato: can you tell me how to share a folder over my network between two linux computers? i have used samba between linux and windows, but now he switched to kubuntu :)
[03:28] <NixHex> jack_wyt: weird, worked right off
[03:28] <morphinex> voidmage: I have that info, hold on a sec
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> surgy: samba should work, or nfs
[03:29] <voidmage> ljoin #ubuntu+1
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <Jucato> NixHex: just type ja[Tab] ?
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> !grub | xoss
[03:29] <ubotu> xoss: please see above
[03:29] <Jucato> surgy: wrong person to ask... :)
[03:29] <NixHex> jucato: its giving me the jack_wyt with that too
[03:30] <surgy> bonbonthejon: samba works for linux? i tried smb:// [ip]  and it says it doesnt exsist..... does that mean he has nothing shared? if so how can he share it?
[03:30] <Jucato> it gives me jack_ at the top of the list... are you using konversation?
[03:30] <jack_> nixhex: did you read the how to i posted above to jucato? it s kind of great, but i cannot increase the volume in the alsamixer in the konsole with the arrow keys
[03:30] <morphinex> voidmage: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=564
[03:30] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: in konsole, run "which PROG" to find where it is, then do "sudo chmod 777 PATH_TO_PROG
[03:31] <NixHex> jack_wyt: yeah that works fine on mine, so I don't know
[03:31] <voidmage> morphinex: i can't dpkg --get-selections, i'm on a livecd and my install is corrupted
[03:31] <voidmage> erm
[03:31] <voidmage> the filesystem is
[03:31] <voidmage> i can read individual files but don't know how to get the list from there
[03:31] <bonbonthejon> surgy: i think you can right click on a folder in konqueror and go to properties, then sharing
[03:31] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[03:31] <morphinex> voidmage: ah, sorry, that's all I know
[03:31] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: did it work, there should be a way to do it in one line
[03:32] <bonbonthejon> !nfs | surgy
[03:32] <ubotu> surgy: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:32] <surgy> bonbonthejon: no "sharing" when i right click a file in konq
[03:32] <bonbonthejon> !samba | surgy
[03:33] <ubotu> surgy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:33] <Section32> Is there a "Startup Items" like app for KDE/Kubuntu like there is on Gnome/Ubuntu?
[03:33] <mortici> how do i verify that usplash works on my raid0 setup?
[03:33] <surgy> bonbonthejon: but this is for linux to linux file sharing
[03:33] <bonbonthejon> surgy: samba can work
[03:34] <surgy> bonbonthejon: you prefer nfs?
[03:34] <bonbonthejon> surgy: nfs is a unix way, but samba can work, especially if windows boxes might need to be added later
[03:35] <surgy> bonbonthejon: ok, can you tell me how to share a folder?
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> bonbonthejon, well the program still works fine but for some reason when it only works in the system try when I use sudo <program name> or gksu <program name> in the launcher
[03:36] <nixhex> jack_: don't know what could be wrong with yours, I can't even simulate the problem
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> that works
[03:36] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: then edit the menu
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> wow
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> I think that fixed it
[03:37] <nixhex> jucato: I think it was a kopete thing is why it kept changing the name
[03:37] <jack_> nixhex: it doesnt seem to be an uncommon thing, but nothing works from the remedies;-)
[03:37] <bonbonthejon> surgy: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[03:38] <surgy> thank you
[03:38] <nixhex> jack_: yeah, but if I can't simulate it, I can't troubleshoot it
[03:41] <jack_> nixhex: thank you though, trying a couple of other how tos..
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> bonbonthejon, thanks so much! that seems to have done the trick
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> I now finished my guide on the forums
[03:42] <nixhex> jack_: have tried reinstalling the ALSA stuff?
[03:42] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: its insecure, but it works
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> works great!
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[03:43] <jack_> nixhex: via apt-get reinstall alsa-mixer?
[03:45] <nixhex> jack_: thats not a package on my list, but go into adept and search alsa, and you can reinstall from there
[03:46] <jack_> nixhex: ok
[03:47] <nixhex> jack_: if don't have the ALSA-OSS package installed, you should do that too
[03:50] <jack_> nixhex: i have them,(alsabase, alsa-oss,alsa-utils) should i get the firmware loader,-tool, -daemon, -gui too?
[03:50] <duckdown> Hi all.. Is anyone familiar with running X programs on a remote box through ssh? (ssh -X outside.machine.com) I am able to run individual applications like 'firefox' and 'konqueror' and what not, but I can't seem to figure out how to get into my own Window Manager (like GNOME).. I'd rather open a whole desktop rather than running individual X programs by hand every time
[03:51] <nonuda_> !installation
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:52] <abattoir> duckdown: tried 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm(or gdm) start' ?
[03:52] <rustin> hi! anybody knows how to enable the alsa(-)conf(ig) command?
[03:53] <nixhex> jack_: no, I don't have those, I have those 3 and gstreamer0.10-alsa, lib32sound2, libasound2, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa, and linux-sound-base thats all the ALSA stuff I have
[03:55] <nixhex> jack_: but if you just reinstall the base and utils it should work if its going to
[03:56] <nonuda_> need help to install kubuntu without cdrom, i have follow the guide but it didn't work
[03:57] <jack_> nixhex: icannot find lib32sound2 on my system
[03:58] <nixhex> jack_: you don't that one
[03:58] <jack_> nixhex: and synaptic doesnt find it..its somewhere in the reps?
[03:59] <nixhex> jack_: lib32sound2 is for 64bit system...so you don't need
[03:59] <nixhex> jack_: I shouldn't have even mentioned that one
[04:01] <rustin> alsaconfig... anybody knows? :S
[04:02] <fyrmedic> When using lsmod and in the event of sound problems should the entry pcspkr be empty with no user?
[04:02] <jack_> nixhex: i thought this might be the case as i am on the centrino, but there was a 64 edition too, funny that the 32 is for the 64 then any way
[04:03] <nonuda_> anyone?
[04:03] <nixhex> jack_: lib32 is same as ia32....so people know that they are so you can run 32 bit apps
[04:18] <nixhex> jack_: that work?
[04:22] <ghetek> hey guys, i have remote hosting for my website and i use sshfs to mount it to a folder in my media directory. as of now every time that my computer starts up i need to re-enter in the sshfs mount command and put in the directory. I would liket o put it in the auto start applications but then i still need to put in the password. can someone please walk me through how to get ssh-keygen working so that i no longer need a password?
[04:23] <nixhex> !usplash
[04:23] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:24] <ghetek> !ubotu
[04:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !autostart
[04:25] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:26] <ghetek> !ssh-keygen
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh-keygen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <nonuda_> need help to install kubuntu without cdrom, i have follow the guide but it didn't work
[04:30] <BluesKaj> !ssh
[04:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know what the terminal command to see where a program is installed to is?
[04:36] <Jucato> how did you install the program?
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> from source
[04:36] <firecrotch> Okay, I need a bit of help with sed
[04:36] <Jucato> if you didn't specify the --prefix, it will be in /usr (or /usr/bin to be exact)
[04:36] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: ^^^
[04:37] <firecrotch> Never used it before, and I need to use it to replace all occurences of a particular phrase with a different phrase
[04:37] <nixhex> !info usplash install
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> Jucato, thanks
[04:37] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-33 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 564 kB
[04:38] <fyrmedic> I was able to get my onboard wireless card to work the other day. I have since had to re-install. Anybody have a good link for re-installing the wlan0?
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I remember... which thats it
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> hhaha
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> yay
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I am really beginning to like the CLI
[04:41] <Lord_Maynoth> is that bad
[04:41] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> nah, CLI FTW
[04:41] <BluesKaj> anyone know of a utility to burn audio to dvd ?
[04:42] <mortici> if i mount a windows xp drive what is the fs type i should use ie. mount -t ??? /dev/hda /mnt
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> mortici: ntfs probably
[04:43] <ira> where is the edgy bug conference?
[04:43] <ira> sorry festy
[04:44] <Jucato> ira: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <ira> ty
[04:48] <nixhex> !bootsplash
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <nixhex> can't find any good instructions on shanging usplash
[04:49] <vmmartinezg> hello
[04:49] <nixcamic> hey all
[04:49] <vmmartinezg> how do i do to register my nick?
[04:49] <nixcamic> anyone know what kubuntu uses for automounting of inserted usb drives?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> !register | vmmartinezg
[04:50] <ubotu> vmmartinezg: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> how can i run Office in kubuntu?
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> and i mean run it well...
[04:51] <nixcamic> vmmartinezg: openoffice or ms office?
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> ms
[04:52] <vmmartinezg> anyone? any idea?
[04:52] <nixcamic> crossover office?
[04:52] <Crell> wine or crossover could be useful.
[04:52] <Crell> I've never tried it, though.  I prefer OOo.
[04:53] <brother> hello, I am trying to install a brother printer driver, and i get an error from gdebi "unable to copy PPD file" Can anyone help??
[04:53] <vmmartinezg> Me too, but tell that to my colleagues in college :(
[04:54] <Crell> They can read rtf files.
[04:54] <vmmartinezg> you may be right, but if i'm to change some of my docs at college...
[04:54] <nixhex> brother: you got the 2 DEB files and installed the LPR one before the CUPS one?
[04:55] <nixcamic> so i take it noone knows what mounting daemon kubuntu uses?
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> it's natural on kubuntu to mount images
[04:56] <hazard_> magical happy pixie faries.
[04:56] <brother> nixhex, i tried to install the first one first, then saw what you were talking about, then started over
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> but i forgot the command
[04:56] <b0rted> hey there
[04:56] <nixhex> brother: follow the instructions brother provides at http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> check on google.com
[04:56] <b0rted> does any1 know the command "hg clone url" ?
[04:57] <vmmartinezg> anyone knows what is youtube?
[04:57] <coreymon77> guys
[04:57] <coreymon77> problem
[04:57] <brother> nixhex, i did follow that, i accidentally installed them in the wrong order, but then tried over again, is there something i have to undo first?
[04:58] <coreymon77> whenever i type in sudo it gives me this error
[04:58] <coreymon77> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar  6 22:19:20 2007
[04:58] <vmmartinezg> hehehe just kiddin'...
[04:58] <b0rted> vmmartinezg: tio
[04:58] <nixhex> brother: don't think so
[04:58] <brother> ok
[04:58] <coreymon77> how do i fic that
[04:58] <brother> thanks
[04:59] <b0rted> im following a how to install my usb tv stick, and ubuntu doesnt recognise "hg" command
[04:59] <brother> nixhex, i dont see cups running in my processes, do i need to enable it somehow?
[04:59] <nixhex> brother: no
[04:59] <brother> k
[04:59] <nixhex> coreymon77: make sure your clock and date are correct
[04:59] <b0rted> vmmartinezg: any help?
[05:00] <coreymon77> nixhex: they are fine
[05:00] <firecrotch> coreymon77: sudo -K
[05:00] <heather> testing
[05:01] <coreymon77> firecrotch: same thing
[05:01] <vmmartinezg> what about
[05:01] <nixhex> coreymon77: bios might have a different time
[05:01] <heather> this just in.....
[05:02] <heather> firecrotch needs a glass of water
[05:02] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Set the date and time to something ahead of what the error says, then sudo -k
[05:02] <firecrotch> lol heather
[05:03] <heather> night all K Ubuntu rocks!
[05:03] <firecrotch> night, heather!
[05:03] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant
[05:03] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i can use su
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i mean
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant change the time
[05:04] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  reboot into single user mode to do that then
[05:04] <coreymon77> how do i do it
[05:04] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: whats the command
[05:05] <nixcamic> hate to seem impatient here, but noone knows what's called by hal to mount new media?
[05:06] <orangey> hey all.
[05:06] <Crell> nixcamic: It's changed so many times in the last 2 years I lost track.
[05:06] <orangey> since upgrading to herd 5 (from edgy), my kopete has been very small in the contact list.
[05:06] <orangey> is that something that kubuntu did?
[05:06] <orangey> if so, how can I undo that?
[05:06] <nixcamic> Crell: thats the problem, after an hour of googleing i have 5 different wrong answers
[05:07] <firecrotch> coreymon77: When grub comes up, press `e` and add the word single to the end of the line that you use to boot normally
[05:07] <Crell> I don't know what Edgy in particular does, sorry.
[05:07] <Crell> I'm just amazed it works when it does. :_0
[05:07] <Crell> :-)
[05:07] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  Then press b to boot
[05:07] <nixcamic> yeah, its pretty much the reason i switched to kubuntu
[05:08] <nixcamic> and now i cant configure it, which is making it a lot less usefull to me
[05:08] <coreymon77> firecrotch: no, i meant how do i change the time
[05:08] <orangey> alright..
[05:08] <orangey> it says on the wiki that Kopete's contact list got themed for Feisty.
[05:08] <orangey> but how do I *change* this theme, since I don't like it?
[05:09] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  date -s
[05:09] <coreymon77> firecrotch: that will reset it?
[05:09] <firecrotch> coreymon77: use date -s 23:00 to set it to 23:00
[05:10] <firecrotch> Then you should be able to sudo -k
[05:10] <orangey> My lord, the theme is so small I want to rip my eyes out.
[05:10] <b0rt> please help, why i cant use "hg clone" command?
[05:10] <coreymon77> what about the date
[05:11] <FabioBr> Hello, i have a webcam with mic and i want to grab some frames and audio. Can you give me some suggestions for programs to use?
[05:11] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:12] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Not sure, probably something like date -s Mar 5, 2006
[05:12] <brother> nixhex, seems brother was prepared for my problem in there faq
[05:12] <coreymon77> firecrotch: so should i set the date to after the date that the error says?
[05:13] <draik> What do I use to copy a CD?
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> draik: rip to mp3 or copy to iso?
[05:13] <draik> bonbonthejon: ISO
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> draik: i think there is a program mkisofs
[05:15] <Dr_willis> k3b can copy cd's i belive
[05:15] <draik> I will try
[05:15] <Dr_willis> or dd it to an iso file. then use k3b to burn the iso
[05:15] <Dr_willis> 'do not try, do..'
[05:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:15] <sep1318> "do, or do not. there is no try"
[05:16] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: K3B is excellent in burning CD/DVDs
[05:16] <alanhaggai> Just burnt one now.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> as long as its not an ATHF flashing led sign...
[05:18] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Yes, set it to after the date it says
[05:18] <neoncode> I just saw the new logon screen for Ubuntu Fiesty and damn that looks good, is Kubuntu getting a new good looking one too?
[05:19] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Can you give me a link to the pic?
[05:19] <neoncode> alanhaggai: http://www.masuran.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/artwork2.png
[05:19] <neoncode> It's part of that review that was on Digg.
[05:20] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Looks nice, but not much improvements over Edgy's splash.
[05:21] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:21] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I love that new depth feture at the bottom. I'm seriously considering switching to Ubuntu in 7.04 over Kubuntu.
[05:21] <alanhaggai> neoncode: KDE is much better than Gnome I should say.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Gnome makes me feel like i got my hands tied behind my back..
[05:22] <sep1318> hehehe
[05:22] <alanhaggai> Haha Dr_willis
[05:22] <Dr_willis> but my shoes are slip ons.. so i dont need my hands...
[05:22] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I aggree, but KDE is ugly. Also, Gnome works better with Beryl.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Untill i need to go to the bathroom..
[05:23] <Dr_willis> I dont find KDE ugly at all.
[05:23] <alanhaggai> I too.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> and Beryl is such a work in progress - i find THAT ugly.
[05:23] <nixcamic> anyone know the command called by hal to mount new media?
[05:23] <alanhaggai> neoncode: I was an avid Gnome user. But when I switched to KDE, I never looked back.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Now that Mandriva Live cd with Mettiss (mettis?) metiss? had some neat features that i could see as adding useablity
[05:24] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I have Ubuntu on my laptop and Kubuntu on my desktop. And I plan to build a new PC within a month or so and I'll have a GeForce 8800GTS - so I might as well put it to some use.
[05:24] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Then Beryl will be nice. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Im not sure the 8800 are well supported yet.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> i was thinking one needed the latest nvidia drivers for them.
[05:25] <FabioBr> Anyone can suggest me a program to capture a video (with audio) from my webcam?
[05:25] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: I use Beryl with my GeForce 6200
[05:25] <neoncode> Yea that's what I was going to ask, what drivers do you need for the 8800?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  we are refering to the 8800 however. :)
[05:25] <neoncode> I don't have a moral problem useing binary drivers if nessicary.
[05:25] <alanhaggai> So it will have generic support I think.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> neoncode,  i Seem to recall seeing some discussion about how the newest nvidia drivers were needed for them. THe ones with Edgy are not new enough.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I belive even the nv drivers may of been having some issues.. but this is just what i gatehred hanging in this channel. I advise checking the wiki/forums first
[05:26] <neoncode> Hmm... As long as I can get text console I'll be able to get newer drivers.
[05:26] <orangey> hey all.
[05:26] <neoncode> orangey: Hey.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I cant afford a new pc/card at this time. :()
[05:26] <neoncode> Another thing about drivers
[05:27] <orangey> somebody working on kopete for kubuntu has made it such that there's a theme patched into the code that makes the detailed view fundamentally unusable for me on my 1600x1200 - can't be changed; too small, etc.
[05:27] <draik> Dr_willis: Yup. k3b worked nicely
[05:27] <orangey> how do I undo that, or otherwise file my grievance?
[05:27] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:27] <neoncode> The nForce 680i chipset motherboards use intel HDA audio. Does Linux support that?
[05:27] <draik> Now if I can get something to do a copy of a DVD that was burned directly from a DVR for me
[05:28] <morphinex> hey folks, seem to be having a grub problem
[05:28] <makuseru> get the super grub disk
[05:29] <morphinex> what is that?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> heh - we could ask what the problem is. with grub first. :)
[05:29] <makuseru> replaces/fixes grubs
[05:30] <draik> !beryl
[05:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:30] <morphinex> I have two HD on the secondary ata controller, each with an OS on them - xp and ub. I installed a new hard drive on the primary ata bus, but when grub loads (from the secondary bus) it gives me error 5 when the new HD is plugged in
[05:30] <morphinex> Even though, as far as I know, the primary bus should not be involved at all
[05:31] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> !grub | morphinex
[05:31] <ubotu> morphinex: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:32] <makuseru> !lilo
[05:32] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[05:33] <nixhex> what is the point of using beryl? all it does is eat up memory and processor...it doesn't keep the system from crashing, make it go faster, or anything useful...so why bother...just to have fancy, useless graphical affect? seems wasteful to me
[05:33] <morphinex> what I don'
[05:33] <morphinex> don't understand is why grub is doing anything with the primary bus
[05:34] <morphinex> that seems to be the problem
[05:34] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  that describes most games as well...
[05:34] <nixcamic> what does kubuntu use to automount usb drives?
[05:34] <nixhex> dr_willis: but games are not a constant
[05:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <mortici> lol
[05:35] <mortici> ive been playing EVE online :D
[05:36] <makuseru> can someone please help me split a avi into two parts
[05:37] <bearcdst> umm im new to linux/ kunbuntu and i just updated all the software on my desktop and in the grub boot loader it shows Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386 and 2.6.15-26-386 how do i remove the older one if posable
[05:37] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  a lot will depend on the codec the avi is using is my guess.. ive never had much luck with editing avi's at all.
[05:38] <makuseru> well i can convert to any format, but im mainly working with mpegs and avis
[05:38] <Jucato> bearcdst: you uninstall it with the package manager (Adept). but it's a good idea to keep at least 2 working kernels installed, as backup
[05:38] <bearcdst> ok. thanks
[05:38] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  try loading up kino yet?
[05:38] <makuseru> i could never get kino to open a mpg, mpeg, or avi
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Yep.. neither could i.
[05:39] <makuseru> thought it was just for dv video
[05:39] <Dr_willis> that was a codec issue i think..
[05:39] <Dr_willis> convert the avi to dv video then? :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I tend to just watch video...
[05:39] <makuseru> not one of my converters choices
[05:39] <makuseru> i have to burn the video to a cd
[05:39] <makuseru> to watch in school
[05:39] <Dr_willis> DVD? or VCD?
[05:39] <makuseru> VCD
[05:40] <makuseru> K3B dosnt like my dvd burner
[05:40] <makuseru> so it just wastes all my dvds
[05:40] <makuseru> but itll do vcds fine, but i need to split the file
[05:40] <nixcamic> where can i go to get an answer to a question noone on here knows?
[05:41] <makuseru> fourms
[05:41] <nixcamic> k
[05:42] <makuseru> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[05:42] <nonuda_> i have succed booting from hdd, but the ubuntu installer said that it can't find the iso image, infact i already put an iso image in d: partiton, help pleae
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nope. I dont screw with that stuff.
[05:42] <nixcamic> which forums are the offical kubuntu forums?
[05:42] <makuseru> ubuntu
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  you are trying to install from a .iso file on a ntfs partition?
[05:42] <nonuda_> from fat32
[05:43] <nonuda_> i create an iso image using nero from kubuntu disc
[05:43] <Dr_willis> dare we ask why you are doing it this way and not using the cdrom?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> im not even sure it Can be installed from a .iso file.
[05:44] <nonuda_> the guide said it can..
[05:44] <Dr_willis> which guide is this?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> you are proberly the first ive ever heard trying it.
[05:44] <mzanfardino> I'm trying to configure my kubuntu edgy with nvidia gfx 5600 video for twinview display.  Can someone provide a link to a good resource?
[05:44] <bobstro> you can mount an iso image, so it *should* work. can't say i've tried it though.
[05:44] <nixhex> but whats the point of doing it that way? that could have some bad repracautions
[05:44] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  just a min...
[05:45] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: thank you (btw, I have already installed the latest nvidia driver and have a dual-desktop configuration working...)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  #1 - BACKUP your existing xorg.conf
[05:45] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: I'm just interested in comparing the dual-desktop to a single, twinview desktop
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Then check out the command..   nvidia-xconfig  -A
[05:46] <Dr_willis> that 'should' be able to set up the various things for you automaticially
[05:46] <Dr_willis> read the help carefully
[05:46] <nonuda_> when the installer mount the hd i seen that it mounting hda1, 2 etc...but i wonder why it can't find the iso file
[05:46] <Dr_willis> also a good example site/docs is       http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example
[05:46] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: sadly I don't have nvidia_xconfig ....
[05:47] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  try cding over to the thing and see what files are there.
[05:47] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: but I suppose I can apt-get it
[05:47] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  install it? :) its in the repos.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:47] <Dr_willis> i though it was included with the nvidia-glx packages
[05:48] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: guess not.  But as I've said, I've installed the latest driver from nvidia (build it into the kernel) so it might not have come across when I did all that...
[05:48] <Dr_willis> the 2 main options are   -a, --enable-all-gpus, and     --twinview/--no-twinview
[05:48] <milardovich> hi, can sb help me?
[05:49] <nixhex> dr_willis: that might not work install nvidia-xconfig
[05:49] <milardovich> sory for my bad english but in kubuntu-es channel nobody help me
[05:49] <nonuda_> i'm in ubuntu installer main menu, and i want to execute a shell command, how to mount hdd and see its contents?
[05:49] <milardovich> im from argentina
[05:49] <nixhex> dr_willis: it may remove nvidia-glx
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_, try alt-ctrl-F2 to get to a shell?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  i got them both installed.. i think.. let me see
[05:50] <nixhex> dr_willis: nvidia-settings is what you use
[05:50] <milardovich> well i run dist-upgrade on my dapper today and i wait and wait and when its finish i have the edgy eft version
[05:50] <mzanfardino> well, here goes nothing
[05:50] <nonuda_> ok, now i'm in ~# prompt
[05:50] <milardovich> everything was fine
[05:50] <milardovich> but when i wish go to the desk, there is a black window
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ok.. this is odd.. i dont have the 'nvidia-xconfig' package installed.. BUT the binary is there.. it may of come with the nvidia-glx packagge?
[05:51] <milardovich> and when i press enter appears> milardovich login
[05:51] <milardovich> i write my username, then i write my pass
[05:51] <milardovich> but <he say> me that loging faile
[05:51] <milardovich> d
[05:51] <nixhex> dr_willis: nvidia-glx has its own thing, the "nvidia-settings" if you run that in run command, you will get window for Nvidia
[05:52] <milardovich> wrong username or password
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. nope.. odd..  ok - given a file, how to tell what package it cam ein.
[05:52] <milardovich> can somebody help me please????????????????????????????
[05:52] <nonuda_> Dr_willis: now what what should i do? ls show mnt, hd-media, dev and others
[05:52] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  hmm..    interesting..
[05:52] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  you said the drive was mounted.. cd to that drive and do a ls and see whats there.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> it may be mounted in /media/SOMTHING
[05:53] <milardovich> shit
[05:53] <milardovich> 10 hours !!!! ten hours with my fucking connection
[05:54] <milardovich> to update my fucking kubuntu and now...
[05:54] <milardovich> login faied
[05:54] <milardovich> fuck
[05:54] <nonuda_> yes it was mounted when the installer run, but now i its unmounted, what is the command to mount it?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/whatever /media/whever
[05:55] <nonuda_> hd-media, dev, mnt are empty
[05:55] <firecrotch> milardovich: Well, what is it doing when you try to boot?
[05:55] <milardovich> firecrotch ohh thank you!!!, a first the ubuntu loading screen
[05:55] <milardovich> kubuntu, sory
[05:56] <milardovich> with the blue logo
[05:56] <milardovich> and then a fuking black window
[05:56] <milardovich> that when i press enter it write milardovich login
[05:56] <nixhex> milardovich: you need to reconfigure X
[05:56] <milardovich> nixhex i dont have acces to the console
[05:57] <nixhex> milardovich: boot into safe mode
[05:57] <firecrotch> milardovich: That is the console that you get
[05:57] <milardovich> firecrotch but what key must i press
[05:57] <milardovich> it cant log me
[05:57] <milardovich> if i could log me in it doesnt be a problem
[05:58] <milardovich> i repeat, sory for my brutish english
[05:58] <firecrotch> milardovich: type your username, hit enter, then type your password and hit enter
[05:58] <Dr_willis> the password does not 'echo' back. :)
[05:58] <nonuda_> ah its in /dev i saw theres hda1 till 7
[05:58] <Dr_willis> or even echo stars.
[05:58] <firecrotch> That confused me at first too :)
[05:59] <milardovich> firecrotch that i do
[05:59] <Dr_willis> im so used to  them working tha way.. ive never noticed.. :)
[05:59] <nonuda_> but i can't cd to them
[05:59] <milardovich> but the MAY key dont light on
[05:59] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  you dont cd to /dev/whatever  you use mount them to a normal directory
[05:59] <milardovich> bad english but you maybe understand
[05:59] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/whatever /media/whever
[05:59] <firecrotch> milardovich: the MAY key?
[05:59] <milardovich> mayusculas
[06:00] <firecrotch> milardovich:  I don't know what that is
[06:00] <milardovich> i dont know hot to say mayusculas in english
[06:00] <milardovich> wait
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !es
[06:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:00] <nonuda_> oh ok..
[06:01] <milardovich> ubotu thay dont speak to me
[06:01] <nixhex> milardovich: you are Russian right?
[06:01] <intelikey> !ubotu
[06:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:01] <nixhex> milardovich: or close to
[06:01] <draik> !food
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !eat
[06:01] <milardovich> nixhex argentine
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !snack
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !treat
[06:01] <milardovich> mayusculas > capital letters
[06:01] <Jucato> draik: please
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about treat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <draik> Jucato: How do I feed ubotu?
[06:02] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[06:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:02] <draik> Thank you Lindsey Lohan
[06:02] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, mount /dev/hda2 /hd-media failed: invalid argument
[06:02] <nixhex> milardovich: oh well then, could try the spanish channel...but is it not recognizing your login?
[06:02] <milardovich> firecrotch mayusculas > capital letters
[06:03] <milardovich> no nixhex i-ve tried with the spanish and the argentinian channel
[06:03] <firecrotch> draik: no no no no no
[06:03] <milardovich> and no one help me
[06:03] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  thses are ntfs or vfat drives ? you may need to tell them the filesystem type
[06:03] <milardovich> !!! 10 hours waiting!!! only listen music, playing my guitar and using firefox
[06:03] <firecrotch> milardovich: Does it say anything after you try to login?
[06:03] <milardovich> for nopthing?
[06:03] <nonuda_> fat32
[06:03] <Dr_willis> lets see aht that url is i have..
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:03] <nonuda_> ok thakns
[06:04] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t vfat -r
[06:04] <milardovich> firecrotch, milardovich login :
[06:04] <milardovich> that
[06:04] <Dr_willis> scratch the -r part. :)
[06:04] <draik> firecrotch: huh?
[06:04] <nixhex> milardovich: ok, but when you try to login, does it give an error?
[06:05] <firecrotch> draik: the Lindsey Lohan comment you made... :(
[06:05] <milardovich> nixhex yes, i cant remeber what
[06:05] <draik> firecrotch: oh... LOL
[06:05] <milardovich> but there is smth like loging error
[06:05] <milardovich> or password wrong
[06:05] <intelikey> scratch the -t part also
[06:05] <milardovich> or milardovich loging error
[06:05] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, No Such file or directory
[06:05] <firecrotch> milardovich: Then your password is wrong
[06:05] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  yes.. the mountpoint MUST exist beforhand....
[06:06] <nixhex> milardovich: try booting into failsafe, through the grub menu
[06:06] <Dr_willis> make the dir if needed. :)
[06:06] <nonuda_> ok, mkdir right?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Yep.. Linux 101 :)
[06:06] <milardovich> no nixhex xD the boot menu can left me do it
[06:06] <milardovich> oly its boots
[06:06] <milardovich> but wait i triy to prerss scape before the grub loading
[06:06] <milardovich> <(
[06:06] <milardovich> maybe it will work
[06:07] <milardovich> i see you soon only 3 or 5 minutes
[06:07] <milardovich> bye
[06:07] <nonuda_> now it said : No such devices
[06:07] <Mena> Helloooo!
[06:07] <ExpositionOfEvil> HI!
[06:08] <nixhex> ok....well he better know the commands to fix X and change his password or it won't be of any use
[06:08] <intelikey> nonuda_ to discover what device node.    sudo fdisk -l
[06:08] <nonuda_> ok
[06:09] <ExpositionOfEvil> LoL
[06:09] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, /bis/sh: sudo not found
[06:09] <nonuda_> bis=bin
[06:09] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  ok.. what kind of messed up system you got booting anyway? :)
[06:10] <intelikey> prolly ubuntu ////
[06:10] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i was trying to install kubuntu without cdrom
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> utbunu
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> 7.04!!
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> zmog!
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> me wnat it!
[06:11] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  and what did you 'boot' to do this?
[06:11] <underzr0> Hey
[06:12] <Mena> Dr_Willis, Ubuntu is based on kde and kubuntu based on ubuntu or thw both hey are based on kde i dont know ??? :)
[06:12] <nonuda_> i download the Ubuntu installer
[06:12] <intelikey> neither is "based on kde"
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> Mena: ubuntu = gnome by default, kubuntu = kde by default
[06:12] <Mena> intelikey, ok
[06:13] <nonuda_> inslinuxCDROMUbuntu_6
[06:13] <Mena> leejunFan, ok
[06:13] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[06:13] <SkidMark11212121> does anyone know how to get the time back on the panel?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> !info avidemux | makuseru
[06:13] <ubotu> makuseru: avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[06:13] <SkidMark11212121> i deleted it and it's starting to be so annoying
[06:13] <Mena> SkidMark112121. is an applet
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> makuseru: should work with mpeg too, I use it for a bunch of video types.
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> where is it located?
[06:14] <Jucato> SkidMark11212121: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Clock
[06:14] <Mena> SkidMark112121. if you wont to add do this rightclicl on panle >>>>add applet>>>clock
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> got it
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> thanks guys
[06:14] <Mena> panel*
[06:15] <SkidMark11212121> i tried to add the applet but i couldn't find the clock
[06:15] <makuseru> i just downloaded that, but it seems useless, no cut, copy, edit anyting
[06:15] <SkidMark11212121> will kubuntu have any issues with the daylight savings time change?
[06:15] <intelikey> Mena ubuntu is the linux distrobution name.  kubuntu is short for ubuntu + kde   or  package name  kubuntu-desktop added to the ubuntu os.   ubuntu (as an installation) is short for ubuntu + gnome   or  ubuntu-desktop added to the ubuntu os.   if that helps you to understand how it works.
[06:15] <underzr0> hello
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> makuseru: you can probably find packages for cinelerra if you google for it. I don't think it's in the repos, and I don't think there are feisty packages for it yet.
[06:15] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i got it from http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/instlux
[06:16] <SkidMark11212121> will ubuntu have any issues with the daylight savings time issue
[06:16] <ltdubdeuce> good question
[06:17] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121, it shoud NOT have any issues
[06:17] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  if you are updated
[06:17] <intelikey> Mena as also xubuntu   is xfce4 + ubuntu   or  the xubuntu-desktop package added to the ubuntu os
[06:18] <intelikey> i realize that i'm not being very technical about that, but it's the concept i'm trying to convay, and not the specifics.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  i saw an artical on it just today. :)
[06:19] <Mena> intelikey, hmmm thanks :)
[06:19] <SkidMark11212121> i wonder why people are spending so much $$ updating ms servers
[06:19] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  try  zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
[06:19] <Dr_willis> 
[06:19] <intelikey> SkidMark11212121 cause M$ is all they know...
[06:19] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  because they dident use a flexable system for the timezone files/method.
[06:20] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i follow the guide from this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[06:21] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  wow :) the first method basicially says.. go get  Instlux i http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/instlux.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[06:21] <SkidMark11212121> hmm didn't find anything
[06:22] <Mena> intelikey, Do you have any idea why i cant conect to my gmail account with jabber and i set the conection as on the page of Gmail Hlep
[06:22] <Mena> help*
[06:22] <Mena> intelikey, there is no reply on kopete so i asked
[06:22] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, so?
[06:22] <intelikey> Mena no i don't.   sorry not my feild.
[06:22] <root> im in edgy
[06:22] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  some guide. :)
[06:23] <Mena> intelikey, ok no porb
[06:23] <root> i love you firecrotch
[06:23] <root> i love you kubuntu
[06:23] <root> i love you fuking 10 hours lost
[06:23] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[06:23] <nonuda_> ok then
[06:23] <SkidMark11212121> i love kubuntu because i'm downloading at 952 kb/s right now
[06:23] <firecrotch> You're welcome, root!
[06:23] <SkidMark11212121> and i never get that in windows
[06:24] <root> im milardovich firecrotch
[06:24] <root> fuck im with root excelent
[06:24] <root> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:24] <SkidMark11212121> wow
[06:24] <SkidMark11212121> how did it let u on?
[06:25] <firecrotch> Oh, and here I was thinking that random people were swooning over me
[06:25] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  part of the issue MAY be that that isntaller program is like.. old...    	instluxCDROMUbuntu6_06.exe
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i still like you firecrotch
[06:25] <firecrotch> <3 Dr_willis :)
[06:26] <nixhex> milardovich: did you resetup X? and did you know how to change your password?
[06:26] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, ok, any suggestion how to install kubuntu in my laptop which has no cdrom?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  got a spare pc?
[06:26] <SkidMark11212121> have a usb port?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and a network.
[06:26] <nonuda_> yup yup and yup
[06:26] <firecrotch> nonuda_: External CD-ROM drive?
[06:26] <nonuda_> no external cdrom drive
[06:26] <Dr_willis> use the netboot method then?
[06:27] <Lord_Maynoth> how do I determine what my kde directory is?
[06:27] <nonuda_> oh sorry no network
[06:27] <SkidMark11212121> uhm
[06:27] <Dr_willis> you do have part of your hd unallocated and ready for linux to install to?
[06:27] <SkidMark11212121> floppy drive?
[06:27] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: it's ~/.kde
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Or just go the 'use vmware' route...
[06:27] <nonuda_> yes i already create a 2 partition for lt
[06:28] <nonuda_> floppy drive yes
[06:28] <SkidMark11212121> make a boot disk
[06:28] <SkidMark11212121> haha i dunno if you can eeven do that
[06:28] <Lord_Maynoth> /home/username/.kde?
[06:28] <milardovich> nixhex im only press scape and choose the recovery mode
[06:28] <milardovich> and im on edgy now
[06:28] <milardovich> :)))
[06:29] <SkidMark11212121> maybe u could    make a boot disk and load the cd files to another partition
[06:29] <nonuda_> lol, but i already can boot from hdd
[06:29] <SkidMark11212121> but u gotta boot the install process
[06:30] <SkidMark11212121> awww now ifeel better just did the timzone update
[06:30] <nonuda_> hmmm...why linux is so hard? huh :(
[06:30] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  i find it rather easy..
[06:31] <Dr_willis> you are blaming linux because you got  aodd hardware setup
[06:31] <nonuda_> yeah if you have it all
[06:31] <intelikey> nonuda_ "hmmm...why linux is so hard? huh :("    heh try installing windows xp on that box with no cdrom   :)
[06:31] <nixhex> anyone know how to setup samba to make it so that anyone on my network that wants to use my internet has to login?
[06:31] <Mena> !ubuto|Mena
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i'd just use it in vmware... :) but i like vmware
[06:31] <nonuda_> its easy,,,i have tried that
[06:32] <Lord_Maynoth> /usr/local/lib/kde3?  is that the correct one or is /home/lordmaynoth/.kde the kde directory
[06:32] <Lord_Maynoth> sorry im a n00b
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> i did it the other day to a hp pro liant server
[06:32] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  samba dosent share the 'internet'  it has file/folder shares.
[06:32] <nonuda_> use the boot disk from win98
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> but i had a usb cd rom
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> and a file server
[06:32] <intelikey> nonuda_ just booting a floppy doesn't get it installed...
[06:33] <nixhex> dr_willis: ok, not samba, I don't care, I just want to make it so that anyone that wants use my internet has to login
[06:33] <nonuda_> ok then i'm out...
[06:33] <nonuda_> thanks guys
[06:34] <intelikey> you had to make a partition then a file system then copy all the files needed over onto that fs "some how" and then run the installer.    the same basic process will work for linux.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  login to like a proxy?
[06:35] <nonuda_> yes i know...but still i find its hard with linux coz i'm new
[06:36] <nixhex> dr_willis: hmmm proxy may work
[06:36] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  transparent proxy perhaos even..
[06:36] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  how 'else' you going to get a login from them. :)
[06:36] <intelikey> nonuda_ you can install minimal  onto another box  and tarball that installation then copy the tarball over and untar it.   edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/devices and install grub to the mbr.
[06:37] <intelikey> badabing youre installed.
[06:38] <intelikey> i have used that methood on a lappy with no cdrom and no network.    floppy install of a modern linux system onto an old 486 lappy.
[06:38] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks firecrotch
[06:38] <nonuda_> ok...thanks, even i dunno know how to do what u have told me...but thanks anyway...i'm out
[06:38] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a variable I can use to make it automatically find the default one if giving a friend instructions?
[06:39] <intelikey> nonuda seems to have finally fessed up.  "in over head !"
[06:39] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:39] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: no problem
[06:39] <Dr_willis> well i i was about to suggest he get an older ubuntu and use that instthang tool..
[06:39] <Dr_willis> but i dont trust a tool that installs linux fromwhithn windows.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> and vmware would of worked fine. :)  heh
[06:40] <intelikey> yeah there are several ways to get there.
[06:40] <Lord_Maynoth> firecrotch: will ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR  automatically pick my kde directory for me?
[06:41] <nixhex> !squib
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <nixhex> !squid
[06:41] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[06:41] <SkidMark11212121> eh if he really wants to install it he will figure it out
[06:42] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  im not sure he does...
[06:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: I have no clue about any of that
[06:42] <Lord_Maynoth> kk
[06:42] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[06:42] <SkidMark11212121> if he wants to install linux cause some hacker book told him thats what u need he''ll never learn
[06:43] <Dr_willis> he could get a usb key and install puppy linux to it. :) or dsl
[06:43] <intelikey> methinks he wants one of those pointy clicky thingies to do it for him
[06:43] <SkidMark11212121> hey i love pointing and clicking
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <SkidMark11212121> haha
[06:44] <nixhex> dr_willis: ok, do know of any how-tos? cause I can't find anything on getting a proxy setup
[06:44] <SkidMark11212121> i dunno as long as u know whats going on behind the pointing and clicking i think it's ok
[06:44] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  should be documents all over
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !proxy
[06:44] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:44] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:45] <Dr_willis> thats an odd factoid. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !find proxy
[06:45] <ubotu> Found: python-egenix-mxproxy, smproxy, anon-proxy, apt-proxy, connect-proxy (and 20 others)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info anon-proxy
[06:45] <ubotu> anon-proxy: Proxy to surf the web anonymously. In component universe, is optional. Version 00.02.39-8.1 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:46] <Dr_willis> last proxy i messed with was Privoxy and 'TOR'
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !info privoxy
[06:46] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-2-1 (edgy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[06:46] <nixhex> dr_willis: yes, well, I know of those..just no how-tos to set it up so ppl have to login to use internet
[06:46] <Dr_willis> there may be others
[06:46] <Dr_willis> you set up the proxy settings where they need to login....
[06:46] <Dr_willis> what more is there then that.. :)
[06:47] <SkidMark11212121> !info
[06:47] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:48] <b0rted> hi there
[06:48] <SkidMark11212121> yo
[06:48] <b0rted> how to install the hotplug system?
[06:48] <b0rted> O.o
[06:49] <b0rted> its supposed to have the /lib/hotplug ?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> egads use  apt:\ in konqueror and search for proxy.. thers a LOT of them in there..
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> simpleproxy  Simple TCP proxy
[06:49] <b0rted> please any1 know about hotplug?
[06:49] <intelikey> that's also a wierd page http://tor.unixgu.ru/
[06:50] <seven11> does anyone know how to set up apache on my box so someone can log in and uploade some files on my server
[06:50] <Dr_willis> tor is fun to learn about
[06:50] <Jucato> Dr_willis: apt:/
[06:51] <intelikey> seven11 wouldn't an ftp server be better for that
[06:51] <Jucato> !tor
[06:51] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[06:51] <Jucato> bah...
[06:51] <intelikey> factoid name is  !proxy
[06:51] <seven11> intelikey: vsftp ?
[06:51] <intelikey> yeah or ncftp
[06:52] <intelikey> or any other that you like
[06:52] <Jucato> !proxy
[06:52] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:52] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:52] <Jucato> oh there
[06:52] <seven11> thanks intelikey
[06:53] <intelikey> don't blame me until you get it all streight,  it was just a question.
[06:53] <nixhex> think apache-ssl would work?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. perhaps i am mistaken.. and you dont login to a proxy server. but some other thing like it.. silly work pc's are always asking for a login to get to 'non-business' sites
[06:54] <intelikey> might.  cgi probably would   php   but still an ftp server was made for     well ftp.
[06:54] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  egads :)
[06:55] <intelikey> makuseru define split ?
[06:55] <nixhex> privoxy might work
[06:55] <Lord_Maynoth> hello the guys in the kde channel said that /usr is the default kde directory for (k)ubuntu can anyone verify this?  Thanks in advance
[06:55] <makuseru> i need it in two parts to get on two cds
[06:55] <intelikey> if all you want is to bisection the file for what ever cause   dd
[06:56] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  i dont see where you keep a user/password list for that one.. or for tinyproxy. they can be set to allow netmask/ip-ranges however
[06:56] <Jucato> !register > cj__
[06:56] <nixhex> dr_willis well in the discription apt gives it says "access control"
[06:57] <intelikey> makuseru set the block size and count and dd the first part to a file then with the same settings add a skip of the first number of blocks and dd the last section to another file    man dd
[06:57] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  right.. and from what im checking in the docs it controlsl by ip-range not a login. thats what got me thinking of the socks stuff.
[06:57] <makuseru> intelikey: dd?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  Squid is also a common proxy
[06:57] <intelikey> man dd
[06:57] <makuseru> k
[06:58] <nixhex> dr_willis: hmm...needs to be login
[06:58] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  keep looking then i guess... i dont see the point. :) but whatever.. heh
[06:58] <Dr_willis> im checking each proxy's homepage. to see what features they got
[06:59] <intelikey> apt-cache search proxy | grep login
[06:59] <nixhex> dr_willis: lol the point is so I can know who is using my internet...and also use linux machine as a firewall
[06:59] <intelikey> spikeproxy - Web application security testing proxy
[07:00] <intelikey> that's all that returns.  and i had to invert the search for that.
[07:00] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  you expecting a lot of people sneaking about?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> squid has a snot load of features it seems..   http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidAcl
[07:00] <makuseru> intelikey: how do i find out what blocks are what
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Another option is to use proxy-authentication. In this scheme, you assign usernames and passwords to individuals. When they first use the proxy they are asked to authenticate themselves by entering their username and password.
[07:01] <nixhex> dr_willis: people come and go, also I have wireless
[07:01] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  thats.. scary...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> i rember why i ran wires...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> looks liek the   "proxy-authentication" is a feature you are wanting
[07:02] <intelikey> makuseru you don't you arbitrarrly set the size and count according to the desired output file size.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> squid looks a little over my head for that stuff. :) good luck.
[07:03] <moparisthebest> does anyone have experiance with synaptic touchpads and kubuntu?
[07:03] <makuseru> intelikey: huh?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> its sleepy time for me.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  they work fine for me. :)
[07:03] <intelikey> makuseru bs=1024 count=650000    for example.
[07:03] <nixhex> dr_willis: yeah...thanks
[07:03] <moparisthebest> I installed ksynaptics and when I run the configuration I get this windows:
[07:03] <moparisthebest> http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1179/err6rzg6.png
[07:03] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  thers that ksynaptic tool. and i think it needed  a edit to the xorg.conf to work properly however
[07:03] <makuseru> how do i caculate all that?
[07:04] <moparisthebest> thats what the error is saying Dr_willis, but I cant find anywhere that tells me what to edit
[07:04] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  yes.. thats it.. you got no clue what its saying i bet? :)
[07:04] <intelikey> with a calculator maybe ?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> In the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:04] <makuseru> i mean what do i do to caculate
[07:04] <moparisthebest> Ive got that open Dr_willis with root permmission
[07:05] <Dr_willis> there should be a 'touchpad' input device -
[07:05] <Dr_willis> put the  line
[07:05] <Kite_DH> erm
[07:05] <intelikey> bs=1024 means  1k block size  and  count=650000  means 650k of those 1k blocks   ie 650m    should fit on any cd.
[07:05] <Dr_willis> option "SCHMconfig" "on"
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i think in there. This is proberly discussed in detail on the forums/wiki pages..
[07:06] <Dr_willis> not on mylaptop so i cant tell yamuch more
[07:06] <moparisthebest> there is no touchpad section Dr_willis , just a mouse section
[07:06] <makuseru> intelikey: oh, so 1 block = 1 k.....roughly?
[07:06] <moparisthebest> well, 'inputdevice' Dr_willis
[07:06] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[07:06] <Dr_willis> gives an example
[07:07] <intelikey> no you set the block size with the bs=    by default  512 bytes per block.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> you proberly dont need ALL the options they use in the example
[07:07] <moparisthebest> yep, I was actually on that site but didnt know where to put that
[07:07] <moparisthebest> can I just copy and paste it into xorg.conf?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> find the   Section InputDevice
[07:08] <Dr_willis> for your touchpad
[07:08] <moparisthebest> or do I have to remove something I already have
[07:08] <moparisthebest> ok, I assume it is 'mouse'
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.. shouldent be..
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru you could use   bs=681574400 count=1   if you wanted.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> look for the ------> Driver          "synaptics" line
[07:08] <Dr_willis> put  Option "SHMConfig" "true"  rigjht below it
[07:09] <moparisthebest> there is none
[07:09] <moparisthebest> thats the first thing I searched for
[07:09] <intelikey> although i would not recommend bs larger than the fs standard,  for iso9660 i think that's 1k
[07:09] <Dr_willis> make a new input device section for it then i guess.. using that site as an example
[07:09] <intelikey> someone else can correct that.
[07:10] <moparisthebest> http://rafb.net/p/ScFclo87.html that is xorg.conf Dr_willis
[07:10] <Dr_willis> you may need to also edit the serverlayout line.
[07:10] <moparisthebest> ok, Ill give it a try, I made a backup just in case :)
[07:11] <Dr_willis> under serverlayout you WILL need to add a new entry for your newly created touchpad.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> InputDevice	"touchpad"  (or whteger ya call it)
[07:12] <intelikey> makuseru the reason that dd defaults to 512 bytes per block when no bs= is used, is because that's the block size for the ole floppy disk.  and should be the smallest block size used by any modern fs.
[07:12] <makuseru> ok, my file is 1 005 670.4kb, so hald of that is 502835.2kb..... so i could do "bs=502835.2 count=1
[07:12] <makuseru> would that make sence?
[07:12] <makuseru> half*
[07:12] <moparisthebest> ok Dr_willis, Ill try it out, thanks
[07:12] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  the 'longer' example on that url. is the one you want to use i guess..    http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[07:13] <moparisthebest> ok
[07:13] <intelikey> makuseru you could but why split it in the middle  the decimal may cause trubble there.
[07:14] <Dr_willis>     and use a                                InputDevice     "Alps Touchpad"  "SendCoreEvents"          line under serverlayout
[07:14] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:14] <makuseru> im splitting the middle just so its even, cause the movie is 2 hours
[07:14] <makuseru> so one hour each cd
[07:15] <intelikey> makuseru NO !     won't work for that.   you will have to use some other app.
[07:15] <makuseru> aaaaaaaaaah
[07:15] <makuseru> NOW you tell me
[07:15] <makuseru> who wouldnt it
[07:16] <makuseru> why
[07:16] <intelikey> thought you just wanted it on disk.  you want to actually have two independantly usable files.    that's not the same as just spliting a file.    you have to have the header on both copies.
[07:16] <makuseru> any recommendations?
[07:17] <kungfugoat> can anyone tell me why system monitor is showing cpu1 and cpu2 at 100%?
[07:17] <intelikey> something that can play it and record part one and part two from the playing.
[07:17] <makuseru> what does that?
[07:17] <intelikey> makuseru there may be an app.  idk.
[07:18] <makuseru> well thanks anyway
[07:18] <intelikey> makuseru ffr.  when someone asks what you want to do with it.    be specific.  :)
[07:18] <intelikey> saves time.
[07:18] <nixhex> makuseru intelikey Mencoder won't work?
[07:19] <intelikey> nixhex if you can get it to, help makuseru out.
[07:19] <nixhex> intelikey: lol I don't I was just reading a forum and someone said it can
[07:19] <makuseru> i read the manual for ffmpeg but saw nothing about splitting the file up
[07:21] <intelikey> i don't know what mencoder can/can't do.   jsut know why normal spliting of a file wont work on that level.
[07:23] <thomas_> wtf happened to adept? How do I get the old adept back?
[07:24] <nixhex> too bad nero doesn't have all the features it does in windows...cause if it did, it would so simple for makuseru
[07:24] <nixhex> thomas_: what are talking about?
[07:24] <nixhex> thomas_: you want synaptic? then install it
[07:25] <thomas_> nixhex: nah, I liked how adept used to be, with its list interface, etc. Is there a way to view that again? The new version prevents the listing of libraries and stuff
[07:25] <thomas_> at least, at first glance it does
[07:26] <nixhex> thomas_: ah...it does list
[07:26] <nixhex> thomas_: what did you just upgrade from?
[07:27] <intelikey> and to
[07:27] <thomas_> I'm in feisty, just did a dist-upgrade
[07:28] <intelikey> thomas_ that may not be adept  maybe kpackage or something.   check that it's the same app
[07:28] <nixhex> adept hasn't changed much in way of looks for a while
[07:28] <intelikey> kpkg
[07:28] <thomas_> nope, I'm pretty sure. I've always had adept, and what not. It's always had the list on the bottom, etc.
[07:29] <nixhex> thomas_: you are probably not using adept, cause the GUI hasn't changed...I have a feisty machine
[07:29] <thomas_> I must have been on crack ever since I've using kde, then
[07:30] <intelikey> you can ask in #kubuntu+1   i haven't seen feisty.  and probably never will.
[07:30] <thomas_> cool, will do
[07:30] <nixhex> its #ubuntu+1 there isn't a Kubuntu+1...I've tried
[07:30] <intelikey> ok  #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <intelikey> habit adding the k now days
[07:31] <nixhex> yeah
[07:35] <nixhex> ooooohhh how do I change the theme adept uses
[07:36] <nixhex> like the screen shots here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44909
[07:37] <nixhex> guess its the system theme
[07:37] <Jucato> nixhex: run System Settings as root (kdesu systemsettings). if you change the Color scheme and Styles in there, it will affect the appearance of apps that will run as root
[07:38] <nixhex> jucato: yeah, just haven't had any luck with all that
[07:38] <posingaspopular> nixhex: whats the problem?
[07:40] <nixhex> it screws up my screen when I do it...doesn't seem like my resolution or something
[07:49] <ForgeAus> is there a way to bypass ntldr and/or Grub (ie put a linux boot string into ntldr's boot.ini or put a more direct load of XP/2k/NT in NTLDR)
[07:50] <ForgeAus> oops in grub should have been on the end
[07:52] <seven11> intelikey: sorry !! how would someone from the internet log on the vsftp?
[07:56] <epimeth> ahoy landlubbers!
[07:56] <epimeth> !he
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[07:57] <milardovich> somebody knows the gekko cms?
[07:57] <milardovich> write on php?
[07:57] <milardovich> i write a script that make the gekko styles compatibles with kleophatra: my own cms
[07:58] <milardovich> please check www.milardovich.com.ar and left your opinion
[07:58] <milardovich> about my protect
[07:58] <milardovich> kleophatra is writed on kubuntu, with php, apache and mysql
[07:59] <aphroguy> Greetings, testing IRC with GAIM.  How's everyone tonight?
[07:59] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can I find out what users are logged in on my system at the moment?
[08:00] <nino> !mp3
[08:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:00] <nino> !win32 codecs
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <nino> !win32codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Jucato> !w32codecs > nino
[08:01] <nixhex> now this is pretty picture: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=12849&file1=12849-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=FreeBSD+Theme
[08:01] <nino> cool! thx man
[08:01] <ForgeAus> yeah PC-BSD's theme is great, so a freebsd theme should be kewl
[08:02] <nixhex> BSD has the best look
[08:02] <aphroguy> Who in here would be the question-answerer?
[08:02] <ForgeAus> aphro there are many
[08:02] <ForgeAus> question answerers here
[08:03] <posingaspopular> !anyone
[08:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <ForgeAus> I have even been known to answer a few...
[08:03] <nino> Its been a while since I was on Linux,  had to wait for feisty, my Core2 would not install other distros!
[08:03] <Xerroz> ubotu: People probably feel rude asking outright. Besides that would make life far to easy
[08:03] <ForgeAus> nino thats strange
[08:04] <Jucato> !bot | Xerroz
[08:04] <ubotu> Xerroz: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:04] <nino> yea not even suse 10.1 would work lol
[08:04] <Xerroz> meh
[08:04] <Xerroz> :)
[08:04] <posingaspopular> !botsnack
[08:04] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:04] <ForgeAus> eek Suse! no thanx
[08:04] <Hasrat_USA> if kde 3.5.6 is out, then why am i not getting update notification in my system tray in KDE yet?
[08:04] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[08:04] <Hasrat_USA> edgy
[08:05] <nino> lol its all good now im back with my fav distro !!
[08:05] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[08:05] <posingaspopular> nino: good stuff
[08:05] <nixhex> !source-o-matic  > hasrat_USA
[08:05] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[08:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:05] <darksider415> !botsnack
[08:05] <ForgeAus> heheh ahh but
[08:05] <ForgeAus> !yum
[08:05] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[08:06] <nixhex> Hasrat_USA: you need to update your sources.list to include the kubuntu repos
[08:06] <ForgeAus> rofl
[08:06] <ray_> What exactly does automatix2 multimedia codecs install? I kinda want to get rid of it but I don't know what codecs it installed so I can't replace it.
[08:06] <aphroguy> Ooookay, well then, ever since I started playing around with Kubuntu (August-ish) I've been looking for a way to implement an "Active Desktop" similar to that of Windoze.  I know that there's the kwebdesktop, which takes a _screenshot_ of an HTML document, but is there a way to get fully-functional HTML?  I've played around with setting a chrome-less Konquerer profile, but there were too many little glitches and idiosyncrasies.  Has anyo
[08:06] <nino> Im conveting my workstations to Linux this year, Vista & Windows had their chance!!
[08:07] <posingaspopular> hahaha windows never had a real chance....
[08:07] <ForgeAus> interesting aphro... I have no idea
[08:07] <nino> People at work are quiet eagar !
[08:07] <nixhex> ray_: it installs w32codecs, gstreamers, and DVD codecs
[08:07] <darksider415> nino: I ran Vista on my notebook for all of six hours before going back to Kubuntu, and it took that long because I had to get home to my Kubuntu disc, first.
[08:07] <ForgeAus> nino imho XP is better than Vista
[08:07] <ray_> ok... thanks
[08:08] <nixhex> ray_: oh and libxine-extracodecs
[08:08] <posingaspopular> nino: check this out. my buddy got a tonload of viruses browsing the net on his windows box. instead of purging the issues, he bought a new vista machine. i got his old computer minus the HD.
[08:08] <posingaspopular> new ubuntu box here we go
[08:08] <Jucato> aphroguy: currently there isn't a way to do that (unless you run a Konqueror window maximized w/ no borders and no menus). but KDE 4 *might* bring in something like that
[08:08] <nino> LOL!!
[08:08] <ray_> ok
[08:08] <nino> dude thats bad!
[08:08] <darksider415> nino: Then again, on my notebook, the standard XP install was never booted...
[08:08] <Jucato> bad for who? :D
[08:08] <ray_> Should I be able to install all of that just from the universe?
[08:09] <Jucato> nixhex: gstreamer will be useless for Kubuntu btw
[08:09] <epimeth> !motorola
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motorola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <nino> I run a dual boot, use xp for gaming, and big lans
[08:09] <epimeth> anybody know a program that allows me to sync my v3x with kubuntu?
[08:09] <nino> But im gonna see if i can get wine to run some of my games!!
[08:10] <nixhex> jucato: are sure, then why do so many tutorials call for it?
[08:10] <Jucato> nixhex: most of those tutorials do not consider that Kubuntu uses Xine
[08:10] <epimeth> Jucato: what up?
[08:10] <Jucato> hi epimeth
[08:10] <nino> Its just a matter of time before Linux dominates!!
[08:11] <aphroguy> Jucato: Well then, that's something to look forward to.  How difficult would it be to find the bare HTML parsing engine and set that particular program to display the background.  Do you think any type of hack like that would work?
[08:11] <nixhex> jucato: true, guess I'll remove them and see what happens
[08:11] <darksider415> nino: In which case, I'll have to switch to GNU/Hurd... XP
[08:11] <nino> he he !!
[08:11] <Jucato> aphroguy: how difficult? not difficult. If you know how to program in KDE. the KDE HTML engine is called KHTML
[08:12] <epimeth> anybody know a program i can use to sync my phone (motorola v3x) with Kontact?
[08:12] <cpk1> nino: which games do you want to play?
[08:12] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can I find out what users are logged in on my system at the moment?
[08:12] <nino> Well im a high end gamer, Counter Strike Source, Oblivion, FEAR, TOCA, etc
[08:13] <me2win_> hyper_ch: type in "who" in the command line
[08:13] <me2win_> hyper_ch: or "users"
[08:13] <nino> See windows is built for this type of thing, an nvidia (drivers) are mostly customized for XP
[08:13] <hyper_ch> me2win_: thx :) it say I'm logged in 3 times... twice from home where I am now and once from university... how can I kill those additional logins?
[08:14] <aphroguy> Jucato: Without knowing anything about programming in KDE, my first step would be simply use KHTML as the background display application, and set the preferences to display the desired page.  I'm sure it would be much more complicated than that, however.
[08:14] <cpk1> nino: hrmm I think oblivion can work with much tinkering; there are alot of new games that simply dont run yet on, cedega might have a little more success with newer games but it still is pretty rough
[08:14] <nixhex> jucato: can't remove gstreamer...openoffice seems to use them
[08:14] <epimeth> also, I need to sync my palm with Kontact as well... sooooo what package would that be?
[08:14] <hyper_ch> epimeth: kpilot
[08:14] <Jucato> nixhex: hm... I wonder why. Kubuntu has OO.o installed by default, but not GStreamer :)
[08:15] <cpk1> and not koffice either Jucato? =)
[08:15] <nino> yea, thats why i stick to XP for the games, honestly its not that bad, but VISTA just kills it!!
[08:15] <epimeth> kool... cheers hyper_ch... you wouldn't what what I could use for syncing a motorola v3x, would you?
[08:15] <Jucato> aphroguy: it is more complicated than that, as khtml isn't just a separate standalone program
[08:15] <me2win_> hyper_ch: type who -a and then do a kill on the users pid
[08:15] <Jucato> cpk1: not  *yet* :D
[08:15] <hyper_ch> epimeth: nope, I use kpilot to sync my palm lifedrive with kontact
[08:15] <cpk1> epimeth: is that motorola a cdma phone?
[08:15] <nino> But for my other needs, mutimedia and programming, LINUX rules!!
[08:16] <nixhex> jucato: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=12849&file1=12849-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=FreeBSD+Theme
[08:16] <aphroguy> Jucato: Figured as much.  Definitely something to start researching though.  I thank you, kind sir, for your helpful words of wisdom. :)
[08:16] <Jucato> nixhex: already saw that
[08:16] <Jucato> :)
[08:16] <epimeth> cpk1: I'm not sure...
[08:17] <posingaspopular> nino: i dont play computer games, never got into it. the only real reason why i still have it on my hd is that windows is holding my music hostage
[08:17] <nixhex> jucato: oops...klipper didn't paste right: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7756/snapshot1dc6.png
[08:17] <nino> posingaspopular : mp3??
[08:17] <nixhex> jucato: klipper is flakey
[08:18] <posingaspopular> yea
[08:18] <nino> posingaspopular : just copy them over to linux!!
[08:18] <posingaspopular> nino: i did that
[08:18] <Jucato> nixhex: yeah (re klipper)
[08:18] <posingaspopular> i moved them
[08:18] <nino> posingaspopular : and install mp3 support
[08:18] <posingaspopular> my partition wont see the files
[08:18] <posingaspopular> iduno why
[08:18] <nino> permissions!
[08:18] <posingaspopular> ... whatdo you mean
[08:18] <posingaspopular> well specifically
[08:18] <cpk1> I've got a question... in adblock on firefox you can do "overlay flash to block" or somesuch, is there any option like that in konq?
[08:18] <nixhex> jucato: but yeah shows that removing gstreamer wants to remove OO...and some break install
[08:19] <Jucato> nixhex: dunno what's causing that though
[08:19] <posingaspopular> i moved the files from ntfs to ext3 using a windows freeware app called fs-driver
[08:19] <nino> posingaspopular : dit you copy them to a specific folder?
[08:19] <Jucato> nixhex: ah wait
[08:19] <nino> posingaspopular : dit you copy them to a specific folder?
[08:19] <posingaspopular> yea
[08:19] <posingaspopular> what happens is that fs-driver treats the linux partition as a disk drive
[08:20] <Jucato> nixhex: ah. oo.o-core is dependent on libgstreamer0.10-0 only
[08:20] <posingaspopular> soin my case it was e:/
[08:20] <posingaspopular> so i did e:/ music, e:/ documents etc
[08:20] <Jucato> nixhex: doesn't mean, though, that you can use GStreamer for the KDE multimedia apps :)
[08:20] <posingaspopular> and then there was alreayd one called lost and found
[08:20] <cpk1> epimeth: it looks like that phone might work with bitpim (says the motorola v3c works with it) although I am not sure if the version in the repos will come close to supporting it or not
[08:20] <nixhex> jucato: right
[08:20] <posingaspopular> in linux i see /lost and found
[08:20] <posingaspopular> and nothing else
[08:20] <nino> posingaspopular : mabe boot into windows and set the permissions to all, so that a guest can modify the files, and then try to copy them again!
[08:21] <Jucato> nixhex: libgstreamer0.10-0 isn't the same as gstreamer plugins (which those guides tell you to install)
[08:21] <posingaspopular> it didnt ask abotu permissions
[08:21] <posingaspopular> maybe thats the problem
[08:21] <posingaspopular> im just going to wait for my brother to come over and do it forme
[08:21] <nino> yea it copies it with those permissions i think!
[08:21] <nixhex> jucato: now swf-player...
[08:21] <posingaspopular> oh well that will do it
[08:21] <nixhex> jucato: nvm
[08:21] <posingaspopular> i tried doing /mnt and all that in linux but i suck at CLI
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : see if it worx!
[08:22] <posingaspopular> so it didnt work
[08:22] <posingaspopular> nino: as of yesterday it didnt work
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : oops
[08:22] <posingaspopular> like i said, my brother comes home in a few days, so ill force him to do it
[08:22] <posingaspopular> it's cool
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : brb
[08:22] <Jucato> nixhex: yes, swf-player seems to be depending on a gstreamer plugin. but swf-player is not a kde multimedia app, nor is it installed by default :D
[08:23] <nixhex> jucato: yeah its mozilla plugin...not sure if its being used though
[08:23] <cpk1> posingaspopular: what are you trying to do? copy from ntfs to ext3?
[08:23] <aphroguy> And not to mind-dump on the channel here, but another thing I've been unsuccessfully tinkering with is the resolution.  I've got a bottom-of-the-line-four-years-ago HP Pavilion notebook w/integrated video (s3).  The screen is TOTALLY shot, MUST have an external display attached.  I'm not able to boost my resolution above 1024x768, despite the fact that both my GPU and display are capable of handling up to 1280x1024.  Trying to set that d
[08:23] <posingaspopular> cpk1: move permanently between ntfs and ext3
[08:23] <nino> posingaspopular : how much music is it??
[08:24] <posingaspopular> nino: something like 30 gigs
[08:24] <cpk1> posingaspopular: you can read ntfs with no problems
[08:24] <me2win_> hyper_ch: did it work?
[08:24] <nino> posingaspopular : got a dvd writer?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> cpk1: i dont want to read, i want to move permamentky
[08:24] <hyper_ch> me2win_: killing didn't work :(
[08:24] <cpk1> posingaspopular: just boot into linux and move the files from the ntfs partition to the ext3 partition
[08:24] <posingaspopular> nino: nope
[08:24] <hyper_ch> it said no pid like that
[08:24] <hyper_ch> me2win_: but dont' worry... I was worried about someone else in my server :)
[08:24] <posingaspopular> cpk1: i tried that used /dev/mnt/hda1 -ro 0 0 or some other command
[08:25] <hyper_ch> the problem is squid wouldn't want to work anymore as proxy
[08:25] <posingaspopular> and doing anything in CLI is just impossible for me
[08:25] <posingaspopular> im trying todo it with a gui
[08:25] <nino> posingaspopular : use kdesu konqueror and move those files!!
[08:25] <hyper_ch> but now I tested some other sites and it works fine.. it seems that the one site I tried to access had problems :)
[08:25] <hyper_ch> you know, I set konqueror to use proxy only for certain sites
[08:25] <posingaspopular> konqueror is a kde app isn'tit?
[08:25] <posingaspopular>  im trying to move the files into edubuntu
[08:25] <posingaspopular> long storyabout thatone
[08:26] <nino> posingaspopular : r u on kde?
[08:26] <posingaspopular> right now yes
[08:26] <intelikey> konqueror is kde yes
[08:26] <posingaspopular> on the other computer i have edubuntu
[08:26] <cpk1> posingaspopular: no, ubuntu should have put it in the fstab when you installed it, if it didnt then you just need to do 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /media/myntfsmount
[08:26] <hyper_ch> posingaspopular: yes it it... but you can also use it in edubutnu or ubuntu or xubuntu
[08:26] <nino> run kdesu konqueror
[08:26] <cpk1> then it will be mounted posingaspopular and you can copy the files over
[08:26] <posingaspopular> well thats the thing
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i dont really have any more space....
[08:26] <cpk1> and umm close those quotes =P
[08:27] <posingaspopular> so i cant copy
[08:27] <nixhex> alright...onto an old time question: why doesn't mplayer (or any other player for that matter) play Windows Media or Realplayer files? I have w32codecs, and all that crap installed...yet they don't play
[08:27] <cpk1> well deleting them from the ntfs partition wont free up space anyways
[08:27] <posingaspopular> if i move anymore files to the partition it will blow up
[08:27] <posingaspopular> the files are already on the partition
[08:27] <posingaspopular> it just wont show
[08:27] <cpk1> posingaspopular: huh?
[08:27] <posingaspopular> im trying to get it to show
[08:27] <posingaspopular> i already moved the files from ntfs to ext3
[08:27] <nino> posingaspopular : DVD Writer + 10 DVD's!!
[08:27] <posingaspopular> it just wont show
[08:27] <cpk1> posingaspopular: so where did you move them to?
[08:28] <posingaspopular> uhhh thats the probelm
[08:28] <posingaspopular> i have to linux partitions
[08:28] <posingaspopular> the edubuntu partition and I think a ubuntu partition
[08:28] <cpk1> so mount them both and look for them
[08:28] <posingaspopular> the edubuntupart is liek 40something gigs and full
[08:28] <posingaspopular> cpk1: thats what i want todo
[08:28] <posingaspopular> but im going to wait for my brother to do it
[08:29] <posingaspopular> just because i dont work well with command line
[08:29] <cpk1> mounting is really easy...
[08:29] <epimeth> in order to mount a ext3 partition for a different machine I have to set up nfs, right?
[08:29] <posingaspopular> cpk1: yea i know.. sad :(
[08:29] <hyper_ch> cpk1: everything is easy when you know how :)
[08:29] <nino> lol
[08:29] <posingaspopular> I just want to get my music on ubuntu
[08:29] <posingaspopular> delete windows
[08:29] <cpk1> you just said the music is already on ubuntu...
[08:30] <epimeth> hyper_ch: lol.. but I didn't know how and it was still east :-
[08:30] <epimeth> :-)
[08:30] <nino> posingaspopular : Cant u get a dvd writer somewhere?
[08:30] <posingaspopular> install kubuntu over the old windows
[08:30] <posingaspopular> edubuntu
[08:30] <posingaspopular> i want it on kubuntu
[08:30] <posingaspopular> GNOME sucks...
[08:30] <cpk1> if its on an ext3 partition then using it isnt a problem
[08:30] <epimeth> if its an ntfs partition its easy too :-)
[08:30] <posingaspopular> my problem is that my computers are CRAZZZY
[08:31] <posingaspopular> and very specific
[08:31] <me2win_> this computer has a bad HD so my linux freezes up like ever 5 mins lol
[08:31] <epimeth> kompletely off topic... my wireless keeps disconnecting... how do I make it stop doing that :-)
[08:32] <aphroguy> Epimeth: How far away are the router and adapter?
[08:32] <intelikey> epimeth there might be something on that on the wiki
[08:32] <posingaspopular> epimeth: thats not off topic at all
[08:32] <intelikey> !wifi | epimeth
[08:32] <ubotu> epimeth: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <epimeth> I read pretty much all the wifidocs wiki
[08:32] <epimeth> nothing about it there
[08:33] <intelikey> k that expires my knowledge on the subject.
[08:33] <cpk1> lol
[08:34] <cpk1> I am usually drawn towards wireless problems but I am too tired tonight
[08:34] <nixhex> !wmv
[08:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <reldruh> I have an .avi file, the audio of which i'd like to burn to a CD. K3b gives me errors when i try to add the avi file itself to an audio cd project. Is there a way to extract the audio? Or get k3b happy with it as it is?
[08:39] <epimeth> see?  it did it again
[08:39] <epimeth> to rehash....
[08:39] <epimeth> [09:33]  <epimeth> I added essid and key to my interfaces file... should I add ap as well?
[08:39] <epimeth> [09:34]  <epimeth> I'm thinking it should locate it automatically, which it does on boot... but it disconnects after a few mins
[08:39] <epimeth> [09:34]  <epimeth> and aphroguy: right now I'm about 10 feet away through a thin wall, but before I was 4 feet away without a wall and it did it anyway
[08:39] <epimeth> [09:36]  <epimeth> guys?
[08:39] <MarkCh> reldruh: i dunno, but you can record the audio manually :)
[08:40] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to watch a flv file in mplayer.  But the progress bar won't work.  Is there anyway I can enable it or another player?
[08:41] <MarkCh> crazy_bus: try vlc, t'has fast forward and fast backward buttons
[08:42] <MarkCh> flv files are seen as stream, so progress bars wont work unless you convert the file to a typical movie file
[08:42] <epimeth> not to be annoying, but I really need help with the wireless... anybody know how to fix my problem?
[08:43] <crazy_bus> I usualy convert the flv files to theora but some files lose alot of quality in the progress and become quite fuzzy
[08:43] <MarkCh> crazy_bus: a crazy idea: convert them to avi.
[08:44] <crazy_bus> what's an easy way to do that?
[08:44] <cpk1> epimeth: what kind of chipset you have?
[08:45] <epimeth> bcm4318
[08:45] <epimeth> I took care of the driver problem... its obviously working :-)
[08:46] <cpk1> epimeth: which drivers did you use?
[08:46] <MarkCh> crazy_bus: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/03/19/convert-flash-video-flv-files-to-mpg-or-avi-and-other-media-formats/
[08:47] <MarkCh> you can do it easily using mplayer/mencoder :)
[08:47] <MarkCh> mencoder input.flv -ofps 15 -vf scale=300:-2 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2:acodec=mp3:abitrate=64 -o output.avi
[08:47] <MarkCh> !pastebin | MarkCh
[08:47] <epimeth> cpk1: I don't remember....
[08:47] <epimeth> how can I check?
[08:48] <cpk1> ffmpeg is much easier to use instead of mencoder
[08:48] <cpk1> epimeth: well normally you would remember how you installed the drivers =)
[08:49] <nixhex> anyone using 64bit kubuntu?
[08:49] <MarkCh> nixhex: yep.
[08:49] <epimeth> cpk1: I tried so many things, mate...
[08:49] <nixhex> markch: do you got WMV and real media working?
[08:49] <MarkCh> uh.. actually its 64-bit kde gnome xfce in an installation that was formerly ubuntu dapper that is now feisty.
[08:50] <MarkCh> nixhex: real media yes, but i dont use wmv.
[08:50] <MarkCh> if i would id use vlc to play them.
[08:50] <MarkCh> or gmplayer
[08:50] <nixhex> markch: IMDB.com uses WMV and realmedia
[08:52] <nixhex> markch: can't VLC or kaffeine to play either
[08:52] <epimeth> cpk1: I know I didn't use ndiswrapper....
[08:52] <nixhex> markch: oh yeah...feisty has ubuntu-restricted package....guess nvm
[08:53] <MarkCh> i dunno. im not as interested as i was in movies anymore. though you can install the mplayer firefox plugin to watch them online. what page are you viewing. id try watching em too.
[08:53] <MarkCh> and see if i can watch em.
[08:54] <nixhex> markch: just trying to watch the zodiac trailor...every time it crashs firefox (mplayer plugin)
[08:54] <teacher> hey hi. i want to install kmatrix3d_0.1-1kubuntu_i386.deb this file.How can i install.PLS.
[08:54] <epimeth> arg... did it again!!!
[08:54] <epimeth> wtf
[08:55] <cpk1> you need a 32bit enviroment for wmv files iirc
[08:56] <teacher> hey hi. i want to install kmatrix3d_0.1-1kubuntu_i386.deb this file.How can i install.PLS.
[08:56] <teacher> hey hi. i want to install kmatrix3d_0.1-1kubuntu_i386.deb this file.How can i install.PLS.
[08:56] <epimeth> and again... why won't it stay connected :-(
[08:56] <nixhex> cpk1: I have gotten it to work with 64bit before, just not with this current edgy kernel
[08:57] <cpk1> nixhex: in a chroot though?
[08:57] <nixhex> cpk1: nope
[08:57] <intelikey> teacher sudo dpkg -i /path/to/kmatrix3d_0.1-1kubuntu_i386.deb
[08:58] <intelikey> !repete | teacher
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <intelikey> dumb bot.
[08:58] <MarkCh> !repeat
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:59] <nixhex> yeah...ubotu says its all knowing...what a liar
[08:59] <reldruh> i have a server running ubuntu server and I just installed a sata controller and drive. How would I go about creating a filesystem on it and making it usable? Do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[08:59] <MarkCh> lol
[09:02] <epimeth> intelikey: if the computer isn't doing what you want it to do, it's probably *your* mistake :-p
[09:03] <intelikey> epimeth called pebcak
[09:03] <cpk1> anyone know how I would go about changing the language for kopete? say if I wanted to use japanese
[09:03] <epimeth> intelikey: what?
[09:03] <epimeth> ooohhh
[09:03] <epimeth> problem exists betweek chair and keyboad
[09:04] <epimeth> I know it is pebkac, actually....
[09:04] <epimeth> or error #U53R
[09:05] <posingaspopular> epimeth: my family are experts at chair/keyboard problems
[09:05] <reldruh> I just got a new 200GB drive and I'd like to set up some sort of RAID or backup system for ubuntu. Can somebody help me with that?
[09:05] <nixhex> ok, thinking of pulling out my gun and shooting my 64bit system and install 32bit
[09:05] <epimeth> posingaspopular: its a good thing they have us to bitch and moan to when the comp isn't working, eh?
[09:06] <epimeth> sorry!!! forget I used the b-word!!!
[09:06] <posingaspopular> my mom was like 'what did you do to the computer, what happened to the webpage i was at?' well the problem was that i hadn't even looked in the area of the computer since she got on. and that was had opened up a new thing of konqueror instead of maximixing her firefox page
[09:06] <posingaspopular> and im just like.... thanks mom, for wasting my time
[09:06] <posingaspopular> !language
[09:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:07] <posingaspopular> sorry i had to it
[09:07] <posingaspopular> epimeth: the problem is windows
[09:07] <epimeth> posingaspopular: grrr
[09:07] <epimeth> posingaspopular: and my favorite is when they don't believe me that I didn't change anything :-)
[09:08] <epimeth> its a good thing we live on different continents, otherwise I'd never get anything done
[09:08] <posingaspopular> your presence is so strong, you disrupt electronics across the globe or room
[09:08] <posingaspopular> right...
[09:08] <posingaspopular> as opposed to the softwarethat was defective by design....
[09:09] <Lynoure> reldruh: raid or backup? Those are seriously different things.
[09:09] <nixhex> whats a good partition setup so I don't have to backup my personal files all the time?
[09:09] <Lynoure> reldruh: If you do not have backups yet, I'd recommend those first.
[09:10] <intelikey> nixhex there is NO replacement for making backups
[09:10] <nixhex> intelikey: I mean for when I need to reinstall
[09:11] <reldruh> Lynoure: all right, that sounds reasonable. I have two drives in there now, one 40GB and the 200GB I just put in. I'd like for the 200GB one to just be storage for mythtv, and have relatively current backups of the 40GB drive (that's where the OS will be installed, as well as other files i don't want to lose, but I don't mind losing mythtv shows)
[09:11] <nixhex> intelikey: I always have a backup, I just don't want to have to copy everything over all the time
[09:11] <reldruh> Lynoure: could you help me get that set up, hopefully without having to reinstall the OS?
[09:11] <nino> !w32codecs
[09:11] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:12] <posingaspopular> what does the w32 part mean?
[09:12] <epimeth> so has anyone come up with an obscure solution to my wireless problem?  also, I might have missed the answer earlier: i need to install nfs in order to mount an ext3 partition from a different computer, right?
[09:12] <Lynoure> reldruh: Ideally you would want your backups to be external from your computer so that if it gets e.g. electric spike, things are a bit safer.
[09:12] <epimeth> Lynoure: yay dvd burners!
[09:13] <reldruh> Lynoure: i don't have the luxury of having exactly the setup I want :-)
[09:13] <nino> !libmp3
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <nino> !mp3
[09:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <MarkCh> nixhex: write a cron script for making backups automagically
[09:14] <reldruh> Lynoure: is it possible to do it the original way?
[09:15] <MarkCh> you can use the gnome-schedule package to easily do that.
[09:15] <nixhex> markch: all I have to say about that is...hhhhhhhiiiiiiiiissssss...
[09:15] <Lynoure> reldruh: Sorry, what do you mean by the original way?
[09:15] <nixhex> jk
[09:15] <reldruh> Lynoure: having a backup of the 40GB drive on the 200GB drive, with the rest of the 200GB drive devoted to mythtv recordings
[09:15] <Lynoure> epimeth: Actually, I'd go for external harddisks, nowadays
[09:15] <MarkCh> nixhex: asfd
[09:15] <cpk1> my backup method is called prayer
[09:15] <cpk1> =)
[09:16] <posingaspopular> i have that too!
[09:16] <epimeth> cpk1: the irony does not escape me
[09:16] <Lynoure> reldruh: sure. You could try Keep that comes with kubuntu, but I found it very annoying myself (might vary, if you are not wanting to exclude anything from backups
[09:16] <Lynoure> !backup
[09:16] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:17] <reldruh> Lynoure: it's a command line system, no DE on it
[09:17] <cpk1> epimeth: heh, i just realized how that can apply to anything =P
[09:17] <nixhex> alright....cya all later...installing 32bit kubuntu
[09:17] <epimeth> lol... $make myprogram
[09:17] <epimeth> ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
[09:17] <Lynoure> reldruh: I use dirvish myself, that's commandline and nice
[09:17] <Lynoure> epimeth: ohplease what?
[09:18] <epimeth> Lynoure: was commenting on cpk1's last statement
[09:18] <epimeth> goes with the $make myprogram
[09:18] <Lynoure> epimeth: ever heard of #kubuntu-offtopic?
[09:18] <epimeth> sweet! I'm on op there!!!
[09:19] <cpk1> Lynoure: ever heard of /dev/null?
[09:19] <Lynoure> I guess ops get to break rules on other channels.
[09:19] <cpk1> >=)
[09:19] <Lynoure> cpk1: that's called /ignore on irc
[09:19] <epimeth> ouch.... Lynoure > /dev/null
[09:19] <cpk1> hehe
[09:20] <Lynoure> That was rude, though.
[09:20] <cpk1> no, you are on my good side Lynoure because you believe in having multiple desktops for different projects
[09:20] <cpk1> so you get a thumbs up
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <Lynoure> reldruh: if you want to try it, I can point you to a howto, but some of the other ones might be simpler.
[09:21] <nonuda_> damn..i still can't install kubuntu...huh
[09:22] <reldruh> Lynoure: point away, I'm googling for them now
[09:22] <reldruh> Lynoure: can I use fdisk on the new drive from within the old drive?
[09:22] <NixHex> hey, yay for laptops
[09:22] <Mask> i want to install beryl????????????
[09:22] <MarkCh> reldruh: why not?
[09:23] <Lynoure> reldruh: http://www.dirvish.org/debian.howto.html (it's not debian specific, despite the url)
[09:23] <reldruh> MarkCh: I have no idea, I'm very new to this
[09:23] <Lynoure> reldruh: yes
[09:24] <reldruh> all right, thanks. Do you think I'll have to reinstall the OS?
[09:24] <Lynoure> reldruh: and then mke2fs to make the filesystem
[09:24] <Lynoure> reldruh: absolutely not :)
[09:24] <reldruh> all right, that's comforting
[09:24] <reldruh> Lynoure: how do I figure out which drive is the new one i put in?
[09:25] <reldruh> Lynoure: there are a _lot_ of entries in /dev
[09:25] <MarkCh> reldruh: df
[09:25] <Lynoure> reldruh: it should show up in dmesg, but if you tell what kind of disk it is, we can guess
[09:25] <MarkCh> the one with the most free space is.
[09:25] <Lynoure> MarkCh: not mounted, not even fs yet
[09:25] <reldruh> Lynoure: it's a sata disk. MarkCh: what's df?
[09:26] <MarkCh> oh.
[09:26] <MarkCh> /dev/sda(#)
[09:26] <Lynoure> reldruh: that would most likely be /dev/hdb  then
[09:26] <reldruh> MarkCh: yeah, i literally just installed the sata controller, plugged in the drive and came here
[09:26] <Lynoure> oh, satas are sd?
[09:26] <MarkCh> yep.
[09:26] <reldruh> whenever i try to open fdisk I get the error message 'unable to open xxx'
[09:27] <Lynoure> reldruh: then /dev/sda if that's not your previous disk, or /dev/shb
[09:27] <Lynoure> oop /dev/sdb
[09:27] <reldruh> I don't have any sd's in /dev
[09:28] <Lynoure> reldruh: remembered the sudo in front of fdisk?
[09:29] <reldruh> Lynoure: that helped... I can no open /dev/hda
[09:29] <Lynoure> reldruh: are you sure that is not your old disk?
[09:30] <Lynoure> reldruh: the 40G was the new one, right?
[09:30] <reldruh> Lynoure: it is. I just printed the partition table and found that out. It's my original 40GB disk
[09:30] <reldruh> Lynoure: no, the 200 one is the new one
[09:30] <Lynoure> reldruh: oh, sorry, I did not realize things were that way around.
[09:31] <reldruh> Lynoure: I just ran sudo fdisk /dev/hdc and it's hanging on me. No errors or anything
[09:32] <Lynoure> reldruh: then if you want to use them that way around, yes, reinstalling might be easier than moving. (I haven't even had breakfast yet, so there is a big possibility I'm wrong here :) )
[09:33] <reldruh> Lynoure: reinstalling is looking better and better. Manually partitioning it all at once would be good, I think. I'd just format the whole 200GB drive as ext3 and set the mount point for /var/lib, right?
[09:33] <Lynoure> reldruh: what about hdb? No such one?
[09:33] <reldruh> Lynoure: nope, doesn't exist
[09:34] <reldruh> Lynoure: my only qualm with reinstalling is that I've only manually partitioned drives a couple of times, and that was a very simple, straight from a manual linux install
[09:34] <Lynoure> reldruh: hmmm, for that you would not need to reinstall. But, having backups on the same disk is a bit pointless.
[09:35] <reldruh> Lynoure: backups of the 40 on the 200
[09:35] <reldruh> Lynoure: in case the 40 fails
[09:35] <Lynoure> reldruh: yes, so what you would mount as /var/lib?
[09:36] <reldruh> Lynoure: the 200GB drive, I guess down to 160 because I'd create a seperate 40GB partition to mount as /backup. Does that sound reasonable?
[09:36] <Lynoure> reldruh: Yes it does.
[09:36] <Lynoure> reldruh: but for backup use I'd be careful and mount it only for backing up
[09:37] <reldruh> Lynoure: so I'd have to take the 40GB partition of the 200GB drive out of fstab and mount it manually whenever I wanted to run a backup
[09:37] <reldruh> ?
[09:37] <reldruh> Lynoure: or have cron mount it, backup stuff, then unmount it?
[09:38] <Lynoure> reldruh: cron is less grey hairs :)
[09:38] <reldruh> Lynoure: it's also another thing that I don't know how to use and will probably end up back here trying to figure out :-)
[09:39] <Lynoure> reldruh: basicly the mount; backup; umount in one cron job is neatest
[09:39] <grego_> Simple question- i would like to replace kwin with enlightement, which file i have to edit (i did it already but i want to make it permanent)
[09:40] <Jucato> grego_: it's probably better if you ran E17 by itself...
[09:40] <reldruh> Lynoure: all right, I'm going to go try this all out. I expect I'll be back here soon :-)
[09:40] <MarkCh> grego_: step 1: kill kwin. step 2: replace it with enlightenment step 3: kde session manager will take care of cleaning up the murder.
[09:40] <reldruh> Lynoure: thanks for the advice
[09:40] <grego_> oh
[09:40] <grego_> great
[09:40] <grego_> doi need to save session?
[09:41] <Jucato> MarkCh, grego_: unfortunately, E17 has lots of "stuff" that won't really work properly with KDE if you do that
[09:41] <grego_> what stuff? give me example
[09:41] <Jucato> I have tried it before...
[09:41] <grego_> i tried it today
[09:41] <Jucato> grego_: KDE desktop will conflict with E17's
[09:41] <grego_> compiled from cvs
[09:41] <grego_> everything works
[09:42] <grego_> kde desktop is just button on taskbar like another window
[09:42] <Jucato> yeah
[09:42] <orient2000> !cvs
[09:42] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:42] <grego_> it suit me
[09:42] <grego_> i asigned it to one vm desktop
[09:42] <Jucato> so it's like you only have 1 KDE desktop
[09:42] <Jucato> the rest will be E17
[09:42] <grego_> yeah
[09:43] <MarkCh> grego_: just try it out, then see if it works for you. if it doesnt, you can always revert back, right.
[09:43] <Lynoure> reldruh: Sorry if I was a bit confusing, I do not tend to be at my best before breakfast :)
 You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/
[09:43] <grego_> i did it already, im writing this from this hybrid
[09:43] <grego_> :D
[09:44] <grego_> T
[09:44] <grego_> Thx Jucato
[09:46] <dromer> hi, how can I make an .iso out of a dvd?
[09:47] <Chousuke> dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso should work at least. :)
[09:47] <dromer> ok :)
[09:47] <Chousuke> I'm not sure what your dvd device is called though
[09:47] <dromer> hmm, first see if I have the space to make one :P
[09:48] <dromer> Chousuke: will the iso be made in the current folder?
[09:48] <Chousuke> yes
[09:48] <Chousuke> you can specify a full path in the of= part too though
[09:48] <Chousuke> there should be a GUI for this too though, but I don't know. ;P
[09:49] <Chousuke> maybe some of the CD burning applications.
[09:49] <maryen> i need help ;_;
[09:49] <MarkCh> maryen: you do?
[09:50] <posingaspopular> !ask
[09:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <maryen> yes
[09:50] <MarkCh> maryen: cool.
[09:50] <maryen> i've installed pyqt4-dev-tools
[09:50] <reldruh> Lynoure: I'm at the partitioning screen on the text installer, but it's only listing the 40GB drive. Does that mean I installed the 200GB drive incorrectly, or something else?
[09:50] <maryen> but i can't import the pyqt module
[09:51] <maryen> why not? ><
[09:51] <MarkCh> maryen: why cant you import it?
[09:52] <maryen> i don't know
[09:52] <grego_> where i can find setting responsible for number of lines under icon?
[09:52] <Jucato> maryen: does that python code use Qt 4?
[09:52] <maryen> it just says 'pyqt isn't a module'
[09:52] <maryen> yes
[09:52] <Jucato> not Qt3? hm...
[09:52] <maryen> ImportError: No module named PyQT4
[09:53] <MarkCh> grego_: its under desktop settings -> advanced.
[09:53] <grego_> thx
[09:53] <Jucato> maryen: python-qt4 packages?
[09:53] <Jucato> !info python-qt4 | maryen
[09:53] <ubotu> maryen: python-qt4: Python bindings for Qt4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1488 kB, installed size 6944 kB
[09:54] <maryen> already have em
[09:54] <grego_> MrkCh what about icons in konqueror?
[09:55] <Jucato> grego_: Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Appearance
[09:55] <MarkCh> !pyqt4-dev-tools
[09:55] <ubotu> pyqt4-dev-tools: Development tools for PyQt4. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 124 kB, installed size 280 kB
[09:55] <Lynoure> reldruh: I'm not sure, I'd be surprised if it showed just your first disk normally.
[09:55] <grego_> thank you very much
[09:55] <reldruh> Lynoure: it shows the 40GB disk just fine, but nothing about any empty, 200GB spaces
[09:55] <Lynoure> reldruh: but you can try switching them around or doublechecking the data cable.
[09:56] <MarkCh> maryen: they are just dev-tools. maybe the Qt4 module is not included in that package.
[09:56] <reldruh> Lynoure: ::sigh:: this is much harder than I hoped it would be...
[09:56] <maryen> hmm
[09:56] <reldruh> Lynoure: all right, I'll go open up the case again
[09:56] <MarkCh> This package contains various support tools for PyQt4 developers:  * a user interface compiler (pyuic4)  * a resource file generator (pyrcc4)  * a translation * string finder (pylupdate)
[09:56] <maryen> so i have to build it myself?
[09:56] <MarkCh> hmm...
[09:57] <Jucato> maryen: try python-qt4-dev?
[09:57] <Lynoure> reldruh: but, like I said, if you want to keep linux on the 40G, no need to reinstall
[09:57] <maryen> nothing
[09:57] <maryen> already installed it
[09:57] <reldruh> Lynoure: but if it's not recognizing the 200GB, then I'd have to go back inside anyway, right?
[09:57] <Lynoure> reldruh: you can define the mount in fstab.
[09:57] <Lynoure> reldruh: Yes, that's true. I'd check bios first though.
[09:57] <reldruh> Lynoure: true, but not if I can't get to the drive...
[09:57] <Jucato> maryen: can you test other python programs that use qt4?
[09:58] <reldruh> Lynoure: hmm... I'll do that
[09:58] <maryen> umm don't know where to find one
[09:59] <maryen> one second
[10:00] <dromer> Chousuke: hmm, not working. I checked if /dev/cdrom was mounted, but it's not. I get: dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[10:00] <jean-benoit> !fr
[10:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:00] <maryen> found my answer
[10:01] <maryen> even though pyqt documentation says to do import PyQT4, import qt works too
[10:01] <Chousuke> dromer: hm :/
[10:02] <Jucato> maryen: :D
[10:02] <Chousuke> dromer: maybe you need to use a GUI then. there should be a cd burning application in the menus somewhere. I'm sure that's able to make an ISO
[10:03] <maryen> and, i was mispelling pyqt4 -.-
[10:03] <maryen> it's supposed to be 'PyQt4' not 'PyQT4' :/
[10:03] <maryen> *sigh*
[10:03] <MarkCh> maryen: so it works now?
[10:03] <dromer> Chousuke: wel I found/installed dvd::rip but it's not clear on how to make iso's
[10:03] <maryen> yes
[10:04] <dromer> Chousuke: I think it's more for encoding to a video-format
[10:04] <MarkCh> :) got to remember python is a case-sensitive language haha.
[10:04] <Chousuke> dromer: kubuntu should have k3b or something by default
[10:04] <maryen> :( i have a bad habit of misreading case
[10:05] <dromer> yes I have k3b, can it make iso's ?
[10:05] <Chousuke> should be able to, yes
[10:05] <renato> hi, what is the channel name to have support in italian?
[10:05] <Chousuke> !it
[10:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:05] <dromer> Chousuke: ok, I think I found it :)
[10:06] <dromer> Chousuke: hmm, I get an error imediatly
[10:06] <dromer> Chousuke: hde debugging output isn't helping either
[10:08] <Chousuke> dromer: :/
[10:08] <Chousuke> Well, I don't know about that then
[10:08] <Chousuke> perhaps the DVD is encrypted.
[10:08] <dromer> Chousuke: ah, not enough space left in temporary directory :l
[10:08] <Chousuke> :P
[10:08] <dromer> but theres over 6 gb pp
[10:08] <dromer> ..
[10:08] <dromer> on that partition
[10:13] <reldruh> Lynoure: OK, so I'm in my bios and I have a primary ide master (my 40GB hard drive), a secondary ide master (I'm not sure what it is, probably a dvd drive) and a secondary ide slave (looks like my CD rom drive?) When I opened the case, the 200GB drive was warm, so I think the power cable is OK, but I'm not sure what to do about it not being recognized. Any advice?
[10:14] <ForgeAus> hey all
[10:14] <ForgeAus> um Jucato you there?
[10:15] <MarkCh> ForgeAus: @ #support-ph (05:10:29  PHT) Jucato: see you guys in a bit.. subukan ko lang maglaro ng Tantra :D
[10:15] <Lynoure> reldruh: replug the data cable, maybe even exchange it if you have a spare. Check jumper settings
[10:15] <MarkCh> hell be playing tantra for a while. :)
[10:15] <ForgeAus> hehe thats ok
[10:15] <ForgeAus> ok so anyone know much about dosfck?
[10:16] <ForgeAus> mine keeps cutting out in the middle of it...
[10:16] <ForgeAus> usually it scans at least 2 partitions/volumes
[10:16] <ForgeAus> but when I'm booting now it doesn't even seem to get through one...
[10:17] <MarkCh> j #desktop-effects
[10:17] <ForgeAus> starts it... but seems to conk out
[10:19] <ForgeAus> hey all anyone know much aobut dosfsck (sp?)?
[10:24] <guiden> how do I open a programs with the root account that are in the menu?
[10:27] <intelikey> kdesu name-of-app
[10:29] <guiden> yes, but isn't there another way?
[10:32] <guiden> I want to change the resolution, but I need root access, and I don't know the name of that program in the konsole.
[10:34] <ForgeAus> kdesu
[10:34] <acr> why wouldn't my pci sata controller be recognized in lspci?
[10:34] <ForgeAus> but guiden if your using kcontrol you probably just want to use the administrator button
[10:34] <ForgeAus> (its sometimes hidden depending on your screen res)
[10:34] <cpk1> hrmm how would I get japanese support (be able to type in japanese?)
[10:34] <ForgeAus> it should be right down the bottom anyhow
[10:34] <guiden> where is that?
[10:35] <ForgeAus> actually I might mention that in #kde it can be sometimes a problem
[10:35] <guiden> button
[10:35] <testman> hi folks
[10:35] <ForgeAus> should be on the very bottom of the window on the rhs from memory
[10:35] <testman> how can i mount a usb stick under kubuntu?
[10:36] <acr> testman: it should mount automatically when you plug it in
[10:36] <testman> acr:  nope
[10:36] <testman> it doesnt
[10:36] <acr> testman: does an icon appear on the desktop?
[10:36] <testman> but the automounter works, my cellphone does get automounted
[10:36] <testman> no
[10:37] <guiden> Ah now I see it, ok thanks
[10:37] <acr> testman: and you're sure it's not the usb port? I've never had a flash drive not do _something_
[10:37] <testman> acr: yes im sure
[10:38] <acr> testman: I don't know then. Sorry. Maybe somebody more knowledgable than I can help you
[10:38] <testman> ok, thx acr
[10:38] <acr> no problem
[10:39] <acr> testman: you don't happen to have any idea why a sata controller I just installed wouldn't be recognized, do you?
[10:39] <cpk1> testman: mount the /dev/sd*# that it is at
[10:39] <nino> Need some help: I've installed w32codecs, but only some avi files work in kaffiene, the others are blurry
[10:39] <testman> cpk1: there is no /dev/sd*
[10:39] <testman> acr: sorry, no idea
[10:39] <acr> ::shrug:: it was worth a shot. Thanks anyway
[10:40] <cpk1> testman: you are trying to mount a usb stick?
[10:40] <testman> yes
[10:40] <cpk1> then it is at a /dev/sd*#
[10:48] <nino> Need some help: I've installed w32codecs, but only some avi files work in kaffiene, the others are blurry
[10:51] <intelikey> sd?# seeing that ? matches any single char but * matches everything
[10:53] <intelikey> Mem usage: 13/249 MB (5%)
[10:54] <intelikey> with a gui and a game running... Mem usage: 28/249 MB (11%)
[10:55] <intelikey> still 13m seems a little high for a base system.
[10:55] <ForgeAus> intelikey! um can you help me with dosfsck problems?
[10:55] <intelikey> maybe
[10:56] <ForgeAus> um I got a rude message last time I tried it with: Logical sector size is zero.
[10:57] <intelikey> ForgeAus is that fat32 ?
[10:59] <posingaspopular> how do i remove firefox? purge fx?
[11:00] <intelikey> apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox
[11:00] <intelikey> posingaspopular that won't touch ~/.mozilla  though.
[11:00] <posingaspopular> hmm
[11:00] <posingaspopular> well everytime i open fx, it crashes
[11:01] <intelikey> i think i'd nuke  ~/.mozilla* first.   then uninstall the app if that doesn't fix it.
[11:01] <posingaspopular> in gmail
[11:03] <posingaspopular> its super weird
[11:03] <posingaspopular> everything but gmailworks
[11:03] <ubuntu_> back...
[11:05] <posingaspopular> this is the error that I get
[11:05] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8908/
[11:06] <intelikey> posingaspopular that has nothing to do with ff  it's not even considered an error by the ubuntu team  that's intentional.
[11:07] <xcidar> hey, i installed privoxy with tor, but that changed my enviroment variable $HTTP_PROXY, which is now always exported with the value localhost:4001, but i have it on 8118, so for example aptitude stopped functioning properly
[11:07] <xcidar> how do i change this enviroment variable properly?
[11:07] <posingaspopular> intelikey: well i have no idea why fx keeps crashing at gmail then
[11:07] <intelikey> it's the wacom devices in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf causing that error.
[11:07] <posingaspopular> well that can't be.
[11:08] <nino> Need some help: I've installed w32codecs, but only some avi files work in kaffiene, the others are blurry
[11:08] <posingaspopular> im on a kubuntu 6.10 live cd
[11:08] <posingaspopular> nino: use VLC for .avi files
[11:08] <intelikey> posingaspopular yes it can BE.  look and see.
[11:09] <posingaspopular> how am i supposed to reach /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[11:09] <nino> ok cool thnx
[11:09] <posingaspopular> i haven't ever touched xorg.conf
[11:09] <posingaspopular> once in my lifetime
[11:09] <intelikey> posingaspopular cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <rada> nino, how did you  get w32codecs installed?
[11:09] <intelikey> posingaspopular or   less /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <intelikey> posingaspopular or for that matter   kate /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <intelikey> posingaspopular you could even  grep wacom /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <Timsen> posingaspopular, firstly you should mount your harddisk eventually
[11:11] <posingaspopular> Timsen: my hard disks are broken
[11:11] <posingaspopular> literally broke the partition by accidently trying to overwrite the ntfs and cancellling
[11:11] <posingaspopular> now the windows partition wont show the files
[11:11] <posingaspopular> and the ubuntu partition wont let me log in
[11:11] <posingaspopular> its completly stupid
[11:12] <posingaspopular> i set up the user/login
[11:12] <intelikey> posingaspopular like i said the 168 errors in xorg.conf are not considered errors by the ubuntu team.  they did that on purpose.
[11:12] <posingaspopular> ...uh okay
[11:12] <posingaspopular> i need to be up in two hours
[11:13] <ForgeAus> bbl resetting into XP
[11:13] <intelikey> secondly.   hosed fs != my hard disks are broken
[11:14] <rada> can I install any deb package?
[11:14] <intelikey> btw      "!=" is read "not equal"
[11:14] <intelikey> rada no.
[11:14] <Ash-Fox> !bcm
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Ash-Fox> !broadcom
[11:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:14] <intelikey> rada any .deb package made for your release of ubuntu
[11:15] <xcidar> !proxy
[11:15] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[11:15] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:16] <nino> wooot my avi files are working!!!
[11:16] <intelikey> posingaspopular have you tried    testdisk   on the hosed fs ?
[11:17] <intelikey> !testdisk
[11:17] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[11:18] <intelikey> Jucato is back everyone run hide.
[11:19] <rada> intelikey: hm I thought so :-( I got Drake installation DVD. Installation went smoothly. If I download the latest version of kubuntu but only CD. would I have xwindow installed and all drivers for my notebook? Or do I have to download DVD?
[11:20] <SGL> My Kubuntu (or at least KDE) won't boot after I installed a XAMPP installation
[11:20] <SGL> Can someone tell me where to start fixing this?
[11:20] <intelikey> rada ubuntu is a primarily net based system  that is to say  after the initial install almost anything you add will be from an inet repo.
[11:21] <rada> intelikey: but how?
[11:21] <SGL> Ohw wait
[11:21] <SGL> I did something good!
[11:21] <SGL> First go to recovery mode and then type startx
[11:21] <SGL> That does work
[11:22] <SGL> Can someone tell me what is wrng with my computer?
[11:22] <rada> intelikey: I tried Debian and it was so easy. I am lost with kubuntu
[11:22] <intelikey> !repos | rada
[11:22] <ubotu> rada: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:22] <gemidjy> SGL: are you sure the computer didn't start in some other init diff than 4 ?
[11:23] <intelikey> rada if debian was easy you "should" have no trubble with ubuntu
[11:23] <SGL> gemidjy: init diff than 4? I do now know what that means
[11:23] <gemidjy> SGL: hrm...ok, where the computer stops its booting process?
[11:23] <intelikey> SGL sounds like a file permissions error.
[11:23] <intelikey> gemidjy doesn't know what that means either.
[11:24] <SGL> gemidjy: I get a black screen after the Grub was loaded. I get a white flashing "_" in the top left of the screen
[11:24] <intelikey> gemidjy type   runlevel   into a konsole.
[11:24] <gemidjy> intelikey: o.0
[11:24] <SGL> Then if I hit enter I get some graphics, but it is a distorted KDE screen (I think)
[11:24] <seven11> anybody know how to log on to vsftp over the internet ?
[11:24] <SGL> And then it goes to black and does nothing
[11:24] <intelikey> gemidjy you are not in runlevel 4
[11:24] <gemidjy> SGL: ever happened before?
[11:25] <SGL> gemidjy: it keeps happening
[11:25] <gemidjy> intelikey: I have no problem dude, I try to help SGL here
[11:25] <gemidjy> SGL: I mean before you installed xampp
[11:25] <SGL> I think so yes
[11:25] <SGL> I think it did happen once or twice
[11:25] <gemidjy> so it has nothing to do with xampp
[11:25] <SGL> Well, not it happens all the time
[11:25] <gemidjy> what version of Kubuntu u have?
[11:25] <SGL> NOW
[11:25] <intelikey> gemidjy "I have no problem dude, I try to help SGL here" << you tried to help him with a question that is totally irrelivant.
[11:26] <rada> intelikey: in Debian there was something like apt-setup where I chose the server I was going to downlaod from. I can find anything like that. I got some server in server.list but let's say firefox is found only if I add my installation DVD in the driver.
[11:26] <gemidjy> intelikey: chillout, go watch some tv :)
[11:26] <gemidjy> SGL: what version of Kubuntu u have?
[11:26] <SGL> I installed it like 2 weeks ago and got the version of the offical website
[11:27] <SGL> I don't know how to check the version now, but I think I have the latest version?
[11:27] <intelikey> rada no.   you setup the sources the same way in ubuntu.    see the web page on repos
[11:27] <intelikey> !repos | rada
[11:27] <ubotu> rada: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:28] <gemidjy> SGL: edgy right?
[11:28] <rada> intelikey: ok, thank you. I'll go through it. one more question. my internal mic is not working in kubuntu but win.
[11:28] <SGL> gemidjy: yes edgy
[11:28] <intelikey> gemidjy for pointing out that not starting in runlevel 4 isn't the problem   lol    ok, i'll chill   you ask questions that might remotely apply to his problem and i'll leave you alone.
[11:29] <gemidjy> ok I quit, SGL let intelikey help you, ok?
[11:29] <SGL> No come on, please help me?
[11:30] <SGL> Just leave him, there's always people trying to sound smarter
[11:30] <intelikey> SGL what is your normal login user name ?     put that in this command where you see "name".        sudo chown name /home/name -R
[11:31] <intelikey> then try a normal startup.
[11:31] <SGL> ls
[11:31] <gemidjy> SGL: try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354041&highlight=blank+screen
[11:31] <SGL> whoops, wrong keyboard
[11:33] <oellinas> hello
[11:34] <rada> where can I set resolution of my screen in Xwindow?
[11:34] <SGL> intelikey: I checked, but I was already owner of my own dir
[11:35] <intelikey> SGL did you run the command ?
[11:35] <oellinux> can someone please tell me in wich startup script is "startx" launched?
[11:35] <gemidjy> rada: dpkg-reconvifure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <gemidjy> rada: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure
[11:35] <SGL> yeh I did, now restarting
[11:35] <SGL> and reading about the graphical cards
[11:36] <gemidjy> it has nothing to do with your permissions, but check
[11:36] <intelikey> oellinux it's not.   kdm is launched in the  /etc/init.d/kdm  script.
[11:36] <oellinux> without launching startx
[11:36] <gemidjy> oellinux: actually the display manager gets your X up, kdm
[11:37] <oellinux> cause i need to add an option to the Xserver launching
[11:37] <intelikey> oellinux kdm   starts the xserver
[11:37] <rada> gemidjy: so I can  do it using the mouse?
[11:37] <oellinux> i needed X to start with the -layout tvoff option
[11:37] <gemidjy> rada: using Kubuntu, right ?
[11:37] <rada> gemidjy: yes
[11:38] <intelikey> oellinux you can add that in /etc/X11/xsession  i think
[11:38] <gemidjy> rada: KMenu->system settings-> Monitor and display
[11:39] <oellinux> thanks intelikey
[11:39] <intelikey> np
[11:40] <rada> gemidjy: hm, I can't change it. only one possible option in there. could it be because of not recognised drivers?
[11:40] <SGL> hmmm, it booted once when I restarted using shutdown -r now
[11:40] <oellinux> now just have to find how to modify that file ;)
[11:40] <gemidjy> rada: what drivers ?
[11:40] <SGL> but now I get my ugly black screen again
[11:40] <gemidjy> rada: and what gr. card
[11:42] <rada> gemidjy: it sayes VESA driver - generic
[11:42] <gemidjy> yayks, and what card do u have ?
[11:43] <SGL> gemidjy: I never get a screen with boot options, because that is not the same as Grub right?
[11:44] <gemidjy> SGL: you don't see GRUB after the bios ?
[11:44] <rada> gemidjy: I don't know :-)
[11:44] <gemidjy> rada: lspci|grep VGA
[11:44] <gemidjy> rada: in the konsole
[11:45] <ForgeAus> hey all :) back
[11:45] <intelikey> SGL when the grub loads  hit [esc]    you can set boot options     the   [E]   key to edit the selected line,
[11:45] <ForgeAus> I forgot to log back in
[11:45] <ForgeAus> (to IRC I mean)
[11:45] <rada> gemidjy: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:45] <intelikey> ForgeAus did you get the fs streightened out ?
[11:46] <ForgeAus> no
[11:46] <intelikey> ForgeAus is it fat32 ?
[11:46] <ForgeAus> um I think so.. the one it cuts out in is
[11:46] <ForgeAus> or at least it reads it as
[11:46] <gemidjy> rada: It might be i740
[11:46] <ForgeAus> (or tries to)
[11:46] <intelikey> what was the exact error ?
[11:47] <rada> gemidjy: I got new acer notebook
[11:47] <ForgeAus> I don't get an error... it just freezes during an dosfsck
[11:47] <intelikey> maybe  i810  rada
[11:47] <Joshooa> Excuse me, could someone help me with my internet/network? I JUST got Kubuntu from just using Ubuntu, and I'm having  a hard time keeping my network card installed
[11:47] <ForgeAus> do you think its trying to check the wrong filesystem type?
[11:47] <intelikey> ForgeAus possable
[11:48] <gemidjy> rada: so in the command line, try to follow the selections after executing 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:48] <ForgeAus> do I fix that in fstab?
[11:48] <intelikey> ForgeAus i know this is not good  FOSS advertizing but i let M$ check M$ fs's  and linux check ext# ...
[11:49] <intelikey> ForgeAus no.   it won't even look at fstab.
[11:49] <intelikey> ForgeAus mmmm   sec.
[11:49] <ForgeAus> I don't get it, how does it know what disk to check then? just scans through all it can find?
[11:50] <ForgeAus> it did used to complain that one disk was mounted (before I removed it from fstab)
[11:50] <gemidjy> ForgeAus: it check in /etc/fstab about its type, yes you are right
[11:50] <ForgeAus> grrr interix is pretty big
[11:50] <gemidjy> and then about fat it executes some scripts that run fsck.vfat
[11:50] <ForgeAus> ok so I have to boot to recovery kernel?
[11:51] <ForgeAus> its possible the disk its trying to scan isn't even a fat
[11:51] <ForgeAus> being first disk it should be NTFS right?
[11:51] <intelikey> ForgeAus wait.    did i not remember you saying    dosfsck  was what you needed help with ?
[11:51] <ForgeAus> yes thats it
[11:51] <ForgeAus> sda1 is NTFS filesystem
[11:51] <intelikey> ForgeAus and you are not running that manually ?
[11:51] <ForgeAus> thats correct Kubuntu runs it on bootup
[11:52] <intelikey> it should never do that.   only the root fs
[11:52] <intelikey> look in your fstab for listing with   1 1   at the end.   that are non /
[11:53] <intelikey> change to  0 0
[11:54] <SGL> aaargh! Why is my comp booting one time and freezes the other :S
[11:54] <SGL> :P
[11:55] <ForgeAus> ok thanx
[11:55] <ForgeAus> I'll do that and try it when I get a chance
[11:55] <intelikey> ForgeAus actually the sixth field is the one causing that.    the last digit.     should be 0 for everything except  /
[11:56] <intelikey> possably /home if you have a linux partition mounted as home or var   but not nessecary for them.
[11:56] <SGL> Ok, now my computer does boot, but only after I hit enter everytime it freezes
[11:57] <intelikey> then it's not a freeze, it's a question.
[11:57] <SGL> ok, but I can't read the question? :P
[11:58] <ForgeAus> maybe its the fonts? set to "invisible ink" black on black or white on white, etc?
[11:58] <intelikey> indeed.    maybe boot with  nosplash vga=normal
[11:58] <ForgeAus> or nono-console?
[11:58] <ForgeAus> ahhh bootsplash... that could be it too
[11:58] <SGL> uhhhh?
[11:59] <SGL> I put a new line in the boot options ?
[11:59] <SGL> that says "nosplash vga=normal"??
[11:59] <ForgeAus> SGL in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:59] <intelikey> just append that to the kernel line
[12:00] <intelikey> SGL i'd test it first.   if you later want it permanant you can edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:00] <SGL> I don't know how to test it :P
[12:00] <SGL> So I just go to grub
[12:00] <SGL> and edit
[12:00] <SGL> :P
[12:01] <intelikey> SGL when grub first posts.  if you hit  [esc]    you can use the   arrow keys to select then the  [e]  key to edit a line.
[12:01] <SGL> Nope, still cant read the question S
[12:01] <SGL> Yeh, I did that
[12:01] <SGL> I pressed o to put in a new line
[12:01] <SGL> and I just put in the nosplash thingy
[12:02] <SGL> oh shit, I get the distorted screen again
[12:02] <rada> intelikey: I read about repositories. I have  like 3797 available packages in adept. I just cant believe that there is no joe nor mc. or am I doing something  wrong?
[12:03] <Tm_T> !joe
[12:03] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-5 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 868 kB
[12:03] <intelikey> rada if you only have 3797 you only have  "main"   enabled.
[12:03] <intelikey> rada enable universe and multiverse
[12:04] <rada> intelikey: it is anabled
[12:04] <SGL> yay! I did it!
[12:04] <intelikey> not if all you can install is  3797  it's not.   there are  nigh 20k packages
[12:04] <SGL> It said `quiet splash` after some line
[12:05] <rada> intelikey: hm, main and universe got the same url. this could be the reason
[12:06] <intelikey> no you can add universe to the same line.   let me show you.  >>>>   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse  <<<<
[12:07] <intelikey> rada and if you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list   did you update the database ?
[12:07] <intelikey> apt-get update
[12:07] <rada> no, I used adept
[12:07] <intelikey> still have to "apply changes"
[12:08] <rada> intelikey: and then cliked fetch updates
[12:08] <intelikey> "fetch updates"  !=   "apply changes"
[12:09] <rada> intelikey:  ok. thank you
[12:09] <what_if> amarok tries to open MP3's ever after I tell kde to use a different program... how do I fix this ??
[12:09] <what_if> or uninstall amarok without uninstalling kubuntu-desktop ??
[12:09] <intelikey> uninstall amarok  ?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> back... intelikey looking at the fstab
[12:10] <intelikey> why do you care if  kubuntu-desktop   remains installed or not ?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> there doesn't look like theres anything wrong with it
[12:10] <intelikey> ForgeAus can you pastebin it ?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> ok
[12:10] <what_if> intelikey: if that uninstalls won't I revert to a gnome-desktop ??
[12:10] <ForgeAus> um wahts pastebin url again?
[12:10] <DHGE> what_if: right-click in konqueror - last item
[12:11] <intelikey> no
[12:11] <DHGE> then click on the icon (type)
[12:11] <ForgeAus> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <intelikey> what_if  kubuntu-desktop  is only a meta package to help facilitate the installation of the default packages.
[12:12] <intelikey> as also is    ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <what_if> DHGE: ok, there is some bug in KDE where "open with -> remember association" is not working... ty
[12:12] <Joshooa> Could someone help me finish up setting up my wireless card stuff? It's going now, but I'm not sure how exactly I did it, and if i reboot I'll have to do it all again, again
[12:13] <what_if> intelikey: ok, amarok goes then :)
[12:13] <ForgeAus> intelikey:  pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8916/
[12:13] <DHGE> what_if: did you try what i wrote?
[12:13] <HymnToLife> Joshooa, define "it all"
[12:13] <what_if> DHGE: yes... it worked
[12:14] <Joshooa> Well... install the wireless card, get it connected to the network, and then get online
[12:14] <what_if> DHGE: tyvm, where is that data saved to ??
[12:14] <rada> intelikey: apt-get update gives Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:14] <intelikey> ForgeAus line number eight.
[12:14] <Joshooa> I used dhcp to get it to be recognized now
[12:14] <rada> intelikey:  what url I shoud use?
[12:14] <ForgeAus> whats wrong with it?
[12:14] <Joshooa> and then....
[12:14] <intelikey> ends with   1
[12:14] <ForgeAus> I thought you said it was the number before that
[12:14] <DHGE> what_if: deeeep in .kde - search with grep or something
[12:14] <ForgeAus> I can change the 1 thats easy
[12:15] <what_if> DH, ok ty
[12:15] <ForgeAus> (btw so does 6 and 7)
[12:15] <intelikey> ForgeAus and i can't see the end of 6 & 7  make sure they don't.
[12:15] <Joshooa> and I meant dhclient.
[12:15] <intelikey> heh ok.
[12:15] <intelikey> ForgeAus also why do you not have a listing for the root fs  ?
[12:16] <intelikey>    did you just omit that from the paste ?
[12:16] <ForgeAus> do I need one?
[12:16] <ForgeAus> like /?
[12:16] <intelikey> well.   yeah kinda.   yes  /
[12:16] <ForgeAus> what should it look like?
[12:16] <ForgeAus> I didn't add it because I didn't know it had to b there
[12:16] <Joshooa> then iwconfig to enter in my wep key, then the dhclient again, then ra0 up, then set the essid, then modprobe and it finally let me on the internet again
[12:17] <ForgeAus> (it was working without it)
[12:17] <ForgeAus> at least the computer booted
[12:17] <intelikey>  /dev/sda1 / ext2 defaults 0 1    <<<< example.    type mount and you can see what your / is mounted as.
[12:17] <Joshooa> Now I read I need to blacklist something and then do a module thing and alias? I have no clue how to do that
[12:18] <ForgeAus> is ext3 usable? because it is an ext3 partition
[12:19] <intelikey> ForgeAus indeed    as i said that was an example.
[12:19] <intelikey> actually i use ext2   found the journal causing a problem on the partitionless disk.
[12:20] <ForgeAus> um intelikey why the 1 on the end? is that right?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> (the line looks like this bracket excepted - /dev/sdb2       /               ext3    defaults        0       1 )
[12:20] <intelikey> ForgeAus yes that is correct.  that tells mount to check the fs before mounting rw.
[12:20] <ForgeAus> ok thanx
[12:21] <ForgeAus> trying it
[12:21] <intelikey> np
[12:23] <Ash-Fox> I'd be on more channels if freenode would let me >:/
[12:23] <intelikey> lol
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> I hate having to play this game of "uh.. which channel do I part to get on this other one"
[12:24] <intelikey> you mean it ouly allows 19 ?
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[12:25] <intelikey> second client ?
[12:25] <Ash-Fox> Hey that's a idea, I should open a second connection.
[12:25] <intelikey> clones are generally frouned upon   but hey it might work.
[12:26] <intelikey> and an ircop might write you up for it too.... one never knows.
[12:26] <Ash-Fox> I'd rather use a single connection, mIRC is already a bit painfully slow to run through Wine.
[12:26] <Joshooa> How can I make sure my network is set up to DHCP and then save the settings so it will stay for my next reboot?
[12:26] <rada> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[12:27] <intelikey> maybe the limitation is in mirc not in freenode ?
[12:27] <Ash-Fox> Joshooa, I'd type 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' and check if DHCP is written there.
[12:27] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, nah, freenode has a limit of 19 channels.. mIRC can join far more :P
[12:27] <intelikey> 1.0.0.0   dns error ?
[12:27] <Sekaab> good morning
[12:28] <Joshooa> Ash-Fox: Well it's written there a lot, but it doesn't look like it's in the right spot.
[12:28] <rada> intelikey: but I can access it via web browser
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, besides I'm on 27 other IRC networks (main reason why I use mIRC over other clients -- they can't show the channel tabs decently on a 1024x768 screen)
[12:28] <Joshooa> I had a hard time trying to edit it, like the document I had said
[12:29] <intelikey> rada idk  i'm not a network admin     in fact i'm kinda network illiterate
[12:29] <Ash-Fox> Joshooa, you can check the format in konqueror: man:interfaces
[12:29] <Joshooa> How come when I do vi /etc/network/interfaces I can't edit anything
[12:29] <ForgeAus> back.. its working!
[12:30] <ForgeAus> hehe back in mIRC
[12:30] <intelikey> Joshooa cause you aint root
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> Joshooa, however any settings you set in network settings from the "system settings" should modify /etc/network/interfaces file.
[12:30] <ForgeAus> (inside kubuntu tho) running it under wine
[12:30] <intelikey> !sudo | Joshooa
[12:30] <ubotu> Joshooa: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:30] <Joshooa> but I did sudo su earlier
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> ForgeAus, hey I run mirc under wine too
[12:30] <intelikey> ForgeAus all is well now with the startup processes ?
[12:31] <Ash-Fox> ForgeAus, I have to use version 617, since 62x has graphical issues
[12:31] <guiden> does anyone use firefox here?
[12:32] <intelikey> Joshooa the prompt should reflect the user.     also  sudo su  is redundant   while it may work  sudo -i   would be the prefered methood     or   sudo su -    if you must use su.
[12:32] <guiden> ash-fox ok, can you look at my webpage and tell me if there is any spaces between the menus and the pictures in this webpage http://spaceninja.freehostia.com
[12:32] <SGL> How do you make a program automatically launch each time your computer boots=
[12:33] <intelikey> SGL /etc/rc.local
[12:33] <SGL> thanks intelikey
[12:33] <Ash-Fox> SGL, a graphical program?
[12:33] <SGL> nope
[12:33] <intelikey> SGL unless you mean login rather than boot
[12:33] <guiden> is there spaces or are they connected together?
[12:34] <SGL> Ash-Fox, but for the interesting answer can I just say yes=
[12:34] <Joshooa> intelikey: I was following what this thing from ubuntu said to do, to install my wireless card, it just says, "edit it with vi /etc..." but I can't, it wont edit, and then my arrow keys stop working
[12:34] <intelikey> !autostart | sgl
[12:34] <ubotu> sgl: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:34] <SGL> thank you
[12:34] <HymnToLife> Joshooa, you shouldn't use vi if you're not familiar wxith it
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> guiden, this is what I see http://sphinx.quickfox.org/~ash-fox/temp/its_a_space_ninja
[12:34] <Joshooa> I've come to realize that
[12:35] <SGL> And intelikely, how can I make it autologin?
[12:35] <intelikey> Joshooa hit the [insert]  key for edit mode in vim    iirc.
[12:35] <SGL> !autologin
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <SGL> meh
[12:35] <Joshooa> Thank you
[12:35] <Ash-Fox> SGL, look at kdm settings in system settings
[12:35] <Joshooa> So, h ow do I make sure that next time I boot up, I can get back online?
[12:36] <intelikey> never reboot ?
[12:37] <Joshooa> I got it to work eventually in Ubuntu, but now I'm on Kubuntu, and it loses the info, and doesn't even recognize my wireless card when it starts up.
[12:37] <ForgeAus> intelikey not everything but its useable and functions :)
[12:37] <ForgeAus> still no boot to gui but I don't expect oyu to fix that one
[12:37] <ForgeAus> I'm happy anyhow...
[12:37] <ForgeAus> Ash mine is 6.21 works no problem sofar
[12:37] <ForgeAus> but it could be because I'm using cxoffice
[12:37] <Ash-Fox> ForgeAus, I noticed the nicklist on maximized windows doesn't change when you change channels
[12:37] <intelikey> Ash-Fox and how would you autolocin a console session ?
[12:38] <ForgeAus> I don't use maximized windows thats probly why I havn't noticed it
[12:38] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, I suppose I'd do something messy with rc.local or change the way init works..
[12:38] <guiden> ash-fox, oh god that horrible, I really appriciate the snapshit!
[12:39] <guiden> haha
[12:39] <guiden> I can't type
[12:39] <intelikey> ForgeAus   sudo update-rc.d kdm 2                  i think.
[12:44] <ForgeAus> on and off lol
[12:45] <ForgeAus> I still do prefer mIRC interface to Konversation but I can use either/or now... just as comfortable in both... finally
[12:45] <ForgeAus> and now that I got my XP back I'm happy
[12:45] <ForgeAus> I have the CHOICE of XP and Kubuntu now...
[12:46] <intelikey> another crappy hamper...
[12:48] <intelikey> actually i dont know how to use that script.  i've never used it before.
[12:49] <rada> all: could you help me fix this? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[12:51] <ForgeAus> gpg? you probably have to add the key
[12:51] <ForgeAus> !gpg
[12:51] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[12:51] <intelikey> rada it still looks like a dns error to me.   (1.0.0.0)  is not the right address.    i don't know how to fix it though.   if no one in here will answer try   #ubuntu    if that fails   ##linux  maybe
[12:51] <gregd_> gregd: could you please stop using my nick?
[12:52] <ForgeAus> either that or the mirror went down?
[12:52] <ForgeAus> or theres a typo somewhere
[12:52] <intelikey> ForgeAus he said he could browse it.
[12:52] <rada> yes I can
[12:53] <ForgeAus> um the url 1.0.0.0 looks sus tho
[12:53] <rada> I can download it by clicking above link
[12:53] <rada> maybe some apt conf file?
[12:53] <ForgeAus> check your repos
[12:53] <ForgeAus> in adept use manage repositories
[12:53] <what_if> ok, when my computer reboots, *sometimes* the sound cards get swapped (hw1:0, hw0:0)  how can I stop this
[12:53] <ForgeAus> maybe theres a mistake there somewhere
[12:54] <intelikey> !sound | what_if
[12:54] <ubotu> what_if: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:54] <rada> ForgeAus: :-) I am totally new to this.  but I was getting time out for other sites too
[12:54] <what_if> ubotu: arts is off, arts is crap
[12:54] <intelikey> i think there is a section on that issue what_if ^
[12:54] <ForgeAus> whatif, um I guess the bios sets it somewhere...
[12:55] <intelikey> no it's not a bios issue.
[12:55] <what_if> section in what ?
[12:55] <intelikey> turning the bios off for the on-board might help tho.
[12:56] <intelikey> in the page i sent you.
[12:56] <intelikey> !ubotu | what_if
[12:56] <ubotu> what_if: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:57] <intelikey> i guess you missed the rul while you were griping at the bot...
[12:57] <what_if> intelikey: wow, thats a neat idea. Never really had a problem with kubuntu B4 this :)
[12:57] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[01:01] <what_if> intelikey: no really, first problem with kubuntu :)
[01:01] <what_if> intelikey: and I found the section, all fixed now TY :)
[01:01] <olaf-t-hunter> how do i restart without X ?
[01:01] <fuel> olaf-t-hunter: type "restart" :P
[01:01] <HymnToLife> "reboot", rather
[01:02] <fuel> sorry its reboot
[01:02] <intelikey> what_if good on ya mate.
[01:02] <fuel> or shutdown -r -t mpw
[01:02] <fuel> now
[01:02] <what_if> intelikey: U australian ?
[01:02] <intelikey> olaf-t-hunter you want to start the computer in console mode ?
[01:03] <intelikey> what_if no.  are you ?
[01:03] <olaf-t-hunter> yeah
[01:03] <what_if> intelikey: no, just asking :) In the military and just got back from training with them
[01:03] <fuel> !google | olaf-t-hunter
[01:03] <ubotu> olaf-t-hunter: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[01:04] <olaf-t-hunter> yeah intelikey: thats what im trying
[01:04] <fuel> olaf-t-hunter: hasnt the solution been already given to you ?
[01:05] <intelikey> olaf-t-hunter there isn't a runlevel setup for that by default.    and with upstart i'm not real sure.  sudo update-rc.d kdm remove 3       or something like that.
[01:06] <intelikey> olaf-t-hunter anyway removing kdm from the startup processes is what you want and then boot into that runlevel.    the default runlevel is 2
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[01:08] <_Johny> Hey, Where can I set my bit depht in Kubuntu?
[01:08] <apokryphos> niles: you may want to repeat; no-one would've heard that.
[01:08] <fuel> was that spamming right now?
[01:08] <niles> heard what?
[01:08] <niles> im just asking a question. whats a good movie player
[01:08] <intelikey> vlc
[01:08] <niles> that doesent fail, and can drag drop movies
[01:08] <what_if> xine
[01:08] <niles> xine sucks
[01:09] <fuel> niles: kaffeine ?
[01:09] <what_if> :P lol
[01:09] <niles> kaffine is terriable
[01:09] <Hobbsee> fuel: yes.
[01:09] <niles> kaffine is of utmost unstable
[01:09] <_Johny> niles: Kaffeine and mplayer
[01:09] <niles> i installed mplayer
[01:09] <niles> dont werk
[01:09] <_Johny> There's no best one
[01:09] <niles> other than windows media player
[01:09] <niles> shessh
[01:09] <fuel> Hobbsee: cant bot manage spam??? like people repeating stuff could be kicked immediately?
[01:09] <_Johny> niles: did you install it from offical repositories?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> fuel: no.
[01:10] <niles> _johny where do i get those?
[01:10] <_Johny> niles: Easy man, or yoy'll be kicked
[01:10] <fuel> Hobbsee: oh! but you could right ?
[01:10] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[01:10] <Hobbsee> fuel: not really.
[01:10] <Hobbsee> fuel: somewhat, yes.
[01:11] <_Johny> NightBird: enable it in /etc/apt/sorces.list
[01:11] <niles> the repos i have are what came with ubuntu
[01:11] <_Johny> niles: enable it in /etc/apt/sorces.list
[01:11] <niles> why can these repos just stayup to date
[01:11] <fuel> Hobbsee: another one question....... channel bot is written in which language ? and is there anyway we can see the code?
[01:11] <intelikey> !repos | niles
[01:11] <ubotu> niles: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:11] <Hobbsee> !code
[01:11] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[01:11] <niles> aww sheesh
[01:11] <Hobbsee> !bot
[01:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:11] <niles> now i have to read.
[01:11] <_Johny> niles: so, you'll have to generate them
[01:11] <fuel> Hobbsee: :)
[01:12] <_Johny> Where can I set color depth in Kubuntu?
[01:12] <niles> _Johny:  so just becuase a result shows up in apt-cache search doesent mean it's official  (im not sure if i did enable it or not)
[01:13] <fuel> Hobbsee: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/code/ gives me 403
[01:13] <intelikey> _Johny not sure about kde but you can adjust it system wide in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:13] <fuel> niles: how about looking at http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[01:13] <_Johny> intelikey: no way to do that by clicking?
[01:14] <fuel> niles: it has everything you need.....just that you have to read it one
[01:14] <fuel> *once*
[01:14] <niles> fuel: too much shit to fuck with.  if mplayer is in apt-cache search then why can it just supply a working one
[01:14] <niles> jesus christ
[01:14] <_Johny> niles: just read what you've been given
[01:14] <intelikey> niles if you only enable ubuntu repso  then if anything shows in apt-cache search   it is official.
[01:14] <fuel> !manners | niles
[01:14] <ubotu> niles: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:14] <niles> why doesent ubuntu come with it enabled for me?
[01:15] <intelikey> _Johny as i said    as far as  a "kde" way    idk.
[01:15] <fuel> niles: coz its not legal
[01:15] <fuel> or it has some problems
[01:15] <_Johny> niles: do you want to be kicked
[01:15] <niles> oh
[01:15] <intelikey> _Johny i don't even use a gui  let alone kde.
[01:15] <niles> no i dont want to be kicked
[01:15] <niles> ok i'll update the repos.  didnt know watch porn was illegal
[01:15] <fuel> niles: then play decent
[01:15] <Hobbsee> fuel: told hte relevant person.
[01:15] <fuel> Hobbsee: ok ! great
[01:15] <_Johny> niles: as help, the channel is for that but do it in appropriate way, please
[01:16] <niles> ok ok sorry
[01:16] <niles> i'll act civil
[01:16] <fuel> niles: good..... i wonder how you have not been kicked so far!
[01:16] <_Johny> niles: have you ever heard of sources list genarator?
[01:17] <niles> no i havent but if it is a title of a program then it is googleable. thanx _Johny i'll look into that when i have time
[01:17] <intelikey> !repos | niles
[01:17] <ubotu> niles: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:18] <intelikey> you really should visit that page niles ^
[01:18] <niles> k
[01:18] <_Johny> niles: I wonder what you've done with your mplayer, did you build it from source?
[01:18] <fuel> _Johny: even i have problems with mplayer.....it does not play out of the box.
[01:18] <niles> no i just used the defuault of what came wit kubuntu
[01:19] <niles> or mabey i coppied the repo from an old web page
[01:19] <_Johny> fuel: almost everyone does -:)
[01:19] <fuel> _Johny: ;)
[01:20] <_Johny> niles: try to uninstall it, then enable good repositories in the /etc/apt/sources.list, download the right one, install it by "apt-get" and report
[01:20] <niles> it says Error opening/initializing the selected video_out device
[01:20] <fuel> niles : mplayer ?
[01:20] <niles> but i have my nvidia drivers and even 3d acceleration
[01:20] <_Johny> niles: what driver are you using?
[01:20] <niles> yes thats the error message of mplayer
[01:21] <fuel> same here!
[01:21] <niles> im using the driver provided on the kubjntu page
[01:21] <fuel> i use only kaffeine or vlc
[01:21] <niles> for glx i belive
[01:21] <fuel> niles : use vlc.....
[01:21] <niles> ok
[01:21] <fuel> vlc= out of the box player
[01:21] <intelikey> vlc is good.
[01:21] <fuel> except that the controls are irritating!
[01:21] <fuel> !vlc | niles
[01:21] <ubotu> niles: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:22] <_Johny> niles: try to type in terminal "mplayer -vo xv /path to the movie/
[01:22] <intelikey> !info vlc
[01:22] <niles> is it easy to put videos on repeat with vlc?  or is it like with xine where i have to specify that for every clip
[01:22] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[01:22] <niles> im watching porn clips
[01:22] <fuel> niles : you are dead
[01:22] <_Johny> niles: Moderate your language man
[01:22] <niles> ok ok
[01:22] <niles> im just being honest
[01:22] <_Johny> We've already noticed -:)
[01:23] <fuel> niles : no one wants to know what you are watching .
[01:23] <fuel> niles : try the same on #azureus.
[01:23] <niles> ok
[01:23] <niles> but why them ?
[01:23] <_Johny> niles: did you try what I send you?
[01:24] <fuel> niles : to know the meaning of getting kicked or banned
[01:24] <niles> _Johny: yes that did work.  but i wouldnt like to type a command for each movie
[01:25] <niles> im going to try vlc
[01:25] <_Johny> niles: listen man
[01:26] <_Johny> Johny: run your mplayer without a movie, go to --> preferences---> video and as a angine choose "xv", then save all the changes and try
[01:27] <_Johny> niles: You'll always have time to try vlc, mplayer is good either
[01:28] <niles> _Johny that worked.  thanx pal and thanx for being patient with my aditude
[01:28] <niles> now jesus will accept you in heven  :)
[01:28] <niles> vlc is nice, but there is no repeat button
[01:28] <niles> but im sure that is googleable
[01:28] <fuel> niles : its there
[01:29] <fuel> niles : vlc -> view-> playlist
[01:37] <tarnold> hey all, kubuntu starts rather slowly is that indicative of Linux, or just kubuntu?
[01:38] <om3ga> what do you mean by slowly
[01:44] <excelsior> Hello guys
[01:45] <tarnold> it appears to take a minute to several minute to load up before i get to teh log in screen, - same with shutting down
[01:46] <Jucato> tarnold: what are the specs of your computer? that is definitely not normal
[01:46] <tarnold> gah
[01:46] <tarnold> its an HP pavilion dv9000 laptop- where would i find the specs?
[01:46] <Jucato> hm.. do you know the speed of the processor and how much ram you have?
[01:47] <tarnold> jucato: it appears to run fine, but the start up and shut down is slow...um no i don't
[01:47] <larson9999> tarnold: from my experience that IS common.  booting takes a couple minutes.  but it's not different from windows.  on the plus side after you sign in kde and gnome both finish their startup work faster than windows
[01:47] <excelsior> I got some problems with my graphic configuration. When I try to load the "Monitor & display" module, it's not working. I'd just want to know if there's a command-line to change screen resolution and timeout before screen deactivation
[01:47] <tarnold> is there a way i can find out
[01:47] <tarnold> yes i have noticed that larson9999, glad to know its not just me
[01:48] <Jucato> larson9999, tarnold: 1.5 GHz, 1GB RAM, from GRUB to login screen takes +/- 20secs, login to fully usable desktop +/- 10 seconds
[01:48] <Jucato> tarnold: K Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[01:48] <larson9999> Jucato: lemme time my system.  maybe i'm just getting more inpatient :)
[01:49] <Jucato> larson9999: this is on Edgy btw
[01:49] <Jucato> Dapper takes around 30-40 seconds GRUB to login
[01:49] <Jucato> s/takes/took/
[01:49] <_Johny> !search root
[01:49] <ubotu> Found: debchroot, gksudo, root password, sudo, rootpassword, chroot, pbuilder, hidden-root, kdesu, hidden
[01:50] <tarnold> what am i looking for?
[01:50] <_Johny> !root password
[01:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:50] <Jucato> tarnold: there's a list at the left side. the Processor and the Memory ones
[01:51] <tarnold> my processor says intel core 2 T2700 @2.00GHz
[01:51] <larson9999> Jucato: took a minute 30 seconds for my brand new laptop to boot edgy to the point of letting me sign in
[01:52] <Jucato> O.o
[01:52] <jean-benoit> !fr
[01:52] <Jucato> I'm not booting expert but... wow!
[01:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:52] <Jucato> larson9999: hm.. RAM?
[01:52] <larson9999> 2gig
[01:52] <Jucato> O.o what the frack!?
[01:52] <larson9999> amd turion x2
[01:53] <Jucato> maybe things work differently for laptops?
[01:53] <tarnold> maybe
[01:54] <larson9999> but i did forget the other machine that takes so long always checks a thumbdrive i have connected.
[01:54] <larson9999> jacuto.  maybe.  i haven't timed my new desktop
[01:54] <TeePOG> hi guys
[01:54] <Jucato> !tab | larson9999
[01:54] <ubotu> larson9999: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:55] <Jucato> larson9999: helps avoid typos :D
[01:55] <tarnold> Jucato: wow cool, it works :)
[01:55] <tarnold> ok im easily amused before school, sorry
[01:56] <Jucato> hehe it's ok.
[01:56] <compilerwriter> Good morning all
[01:56] <tarnold> morning
[01:56] <Jucato> morning compilerwriter
[01:56] <tarnold> do you guys come the same time every morning
[01:56] <tarnold> Jucato: how do you get the little blue font?
[01:56] <larson9999> Jucato: sure.  i'm an old salt in chat terms.  i think my first nick was stlouism23(4?).  i'd be stlouism40 using the same convention.  jucato looks easy enough even for my fat fingers
[01:57] <Jucato> tarnold: /me message
[01:57] <tarnold> so hows that work?
[01:58] <Jucato> tarnold: you just type /me [message or action without these brackets] 
[01:58] <Jucato> and you get the "blue" text
[01:58] <compilerwriter> Jucato if you are in St. Louis you should be seeing sunlight very soon.
[01:58] <tarnold> yay
[01:58] <tarnold> woot! sorry
[01:58] <Jucato> compilerwriter: I'm so far from there...
[01:58] <larson9999> compilerwriter: that was me in st louis.  but louisville now
[01:59] <compilerwriter> Ah damned eyes aren't functioning yet.
[02:00] <tarnold> hey coffee good, im making some more!
[02:00] <compilerwriter> Larson9999 how goes it with the Cardinals then?
[02:01] <tarnold> none of you guys follow soccer do you?
[02:01] <fuel> is there any software which when installed shows window previews on mouse hovering ??(in taskbar)?
[02:01] <compilerwriter> I am in Greenwood.  You might as well say Indianapolis though.
[02:01] <compilerwriter> fuel you are using kde correct.
[02:02] <larson9999> compilerwriter: i guess i'm a st louis and louisville cardinals fan now.  not the worst two teams in the world to cheer for
[02:02] <fuel> yep
[02:02] <tarnold> yeah the nationals!  C'mon DC!
[02:02] <tarnold> ok
[02:02] <fuel> dont tell me use taskbar2 .
[02:02] <tarnold> enough of that
[02:03] <compilerwriter> fuel then you can set the little desktop place holders in the tool bar to show little preview windows of what is on them.
[02:03] <Jucato> fuel: use taskbar v2 :D
[02:03] <fuel> Jucato: :P
[02:04] <fuel> taskbar 2 changes the kicker totally... i rather want the hover effect ...nothing more
[02:04] <Jucato> fuel: why would it change kicker totally?
[02:04] <Jucato> taskbar v2 is just a kicker applet, just like the regular taskbar
[02:05] <Jucato> it doesn't replace kicker at all
[02:05] <fuel> Jucato: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16261
[02:05] <fuel> Jucato: i never said it replaces...
[02:05] <tarnold> so is feisty supposed to have better wireless support?
[02:05] <Jucato> fuel: ok... you are basing it on that screenshot alone?
[02:05] <fuel> Jucato: true
[02:06] <Jucato> fuel: that screenshot just was kicker opacity turned on and tint to Min
[02:06] <Jucato> er.. Kicker transparency
[02:06] <fuel> Jucato: but i dont want the task items to go away.....
[02:06] <Jucato> what do you mean task items?
[02:06] <Jucato> they don't go away. don't base it on that screenshot
[02:06] <fuel> task items= taskbar item
[02:07] <Jucato> that is *not* what taskbar v2 does
[02:07] <fuel> ok i will try andlet you know
[02:07] <larson9999> tarnold: i think in general, yeah.  so far i've been lucky enough the cards i've use have all worked well with ndiswrapper
[02:07] <Jucato> fuel: he only has one window open. so there will be only 1 item in the taskbar.
[02:07] <fuel> taskbar is not in repository :(.
[02:08] <tarnold> larson9999:  i was gonna use ndiswrapper but was recommened knetworkmanager
[02:08] <Jucato> fuel: yep. it's not...
[02:08] <tarnold> larson9999:  hows that working for you?
[02:08] <fuel> Jucato: ok time to manual install :D
[02:08] <larson9999> i'm not about eyecandy but i've been hearing enough good things about beryl i'm thinking of giving it a spin
[02:09] <cyt> Hi all. What is the easiest way to check what kubuntu is going on? Does it have a svn/cvs web interface?
[02:09] <compilerwriter> ok catch me up.  What the hell is beryl
[02:09] <Jucato> !beryl | compilerwriter
[02:09] <ubotu> compilerwriter: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:09] <larson9999> tarnold i'm in ubuntu but isn't knetwork manager the tool to manage nics that are in stalled?  meaning you still need to install the drivers?
[02:10] <compilerwriter> Is it in the repos?
[02:11] <larson9999> compilerwriter: it's the deal with all the fancy glass effects, etc.  although, i tend to find that stuff a distraction more than a benefit
[02:11] <compilerwriter> More importantly, is there a safe way to give it a try, without breaking the setup I currently have?
[02:11] <elbing> compilerwriter, there's a better explanation in wiki of beryl. There you'll find things about cards, repos and more. Don't be lazy
[02:11] <crazy_bus> is there a program in kubuntu to make a series of images into a animated gif?
[02:11] <larson9999> compilerwriter: well, it's in beta yet so it's not 'safe'.
[02:12] <compilerwriter> Curses.  Hopefully it has a feed.
[02:12] <compilerwriter> I will give it a try when it is stable.
[02:12] <fuel> !gimp | crazy_bus
[02:12] <ubotu> crazy_bus: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[02:14] <sredna> hello
[02:15] <sredna> how insane is it to install feisty?
[02:15] <sredna> (on a amd64)
[02:15] <elbing> all is insane in amd64 :p
[02:15] <sredna> really?
[02:15] <elbing> why did you buy it'
[02:16] <sredna> it appears to work fine using the cd
[02:16] <TeePOG> which program handles that little new-media-inserted popup window in kubuntu?
[02:16] <elbing> well, try to install then
[02:17] <sredna> elbing: what is wrong with amd64?
[02:17] <elbing> 32 bits emulation
[02:17] <fuel> Jucato: taskbar 2 is great :)
[02:18] <_Johny> !search mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> Found: sound, players, sound-#kubuntu, mp3, rockbox
[02:18] <_Johny> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <elbing> TeePOG, automount
[02:18] <tarnold> larson9999: I'm not sure...anyone know more then us two?
[02:19] <Jucato> fuel: see? never judge by screenshots alone :D
[02:19] <fuel> Jucato: you are right! :)
[02:19] <fuel> Jucato: i think that guy could put up better screen shot
[02:20] <fuel> *shots*
[02:20] <Jucato> fuel: some people visiting kde-look get mesmerized by transparent kickers :D
[02:20] <tarnold> alright all, cheers I'm off to school'
[02:20] <TeePOG> elbing: i don't seem to have that installed or in my sources; what is the package called?
[02:21] <fuel> Jucato: i wonder why! transparency makes it difficult to see stuff
[02:21] <larson9999> tarnold: i've just always used this guide and setting up wireless has worked great on the 3 machines i've tried so far.
[02:21] <Jucato> fuel: tastes differ :D
[02:21] <fuel> Jucato: :D
[02:21] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah, funny but i like my windows opaque :)
[02:21] <fuel> kicker crashed
[02:21] <fuel> damn!
[02:22] <compilerwriter> jucato quickly school me on kicker.
[02:22] <Jucato> compilerwriter: huh?
[02:22] <Jucato> fuel: I was actualy waiting for that...
[02:22] <fuel> Jucato: :D
[02:22] <fuel> !kicker | compilerwriter
[02:23] <ubotu> compilerwriter: kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[02:23] <abattoir> compilerwriter: kicker is kde's panel, which contains among other things, the taskbar, system tray etc.
[02:23] <abattoir> (stupid enter key)
[02:23] <Jucato> lol
[02:23] <TeePOG> see elbing, my problem is that, after inserting a usb flashdrive, the dialog pops up... but when i click "open in new window", nothing happens. and it doesn't mount the drive either
[02:23] <Jucato> that's what you get for stealing :P
[02:24] <fuel> :)
[02:24] <compilerwriter> I guess I am running something called kdepanel then.
[02:24] <_Johny> if I use "libxine-codecs" is it illegall?
[02:24] <elbing> TeePOG, are you sure that there is a partition in that pendrive?
[02:24] <TeePOG> yes elbing, if i use pmount to mount it, i can see all my files
[02:24] <Jucato> compilerwriter: Kicker *IS* the KDE Panel :)
[02:24] <elbing> what about dmesg | tail?
[02:24] <elbing> ahm ok
[02:24] <compilerwriter> I am just using what came with kubuntu.  I have not been brave enough to fool with my gui.
[02:25] <elbing> then automount is not the problem
[02:25] <Jucato> compilerwriter: er... did you see my note above?
[02:25] <compilerwriter> jucato so is Kicker the name of the program or slang?
[02:25] <abattoir> compilerwriter: the small band at the bottom of your screen(assuming you haven't changed it's position), containing the big K icon, and the clock is the kicker
[02:26] <abattoir> compilerwriter: it is also the name of the program
[02:26] <TeePOG> elbing: i also found that pmount and pumount's file permissions were set incorrectly. they should be -rwsr-xr-x ... but it's -rwsr--r--
[02:26] <fuel> compilerwriter : kicker rocks!!!
[02:26] <Jucato> compilerwriter: it's the name of the program
[02:26] <TeePOG> elbing: but even after setting the permissions correctly, it still doesn't work
[02:26] <compilerwriter> OK, I get it now.
[02:27] <compilerwriter> It is just when I do the r-click thing I get 'about kde panel' in the menu not about kicker.
[02:27] <compilerwriter> I wasn't sure if it was toolbar I wasn't running or the one I had by a different name.
[02:27] <abattoir> compilerwriter: most new users wouldn't know what 'kicker' is, since it's kde's name for the panel, hence the substitution
[02:28] <fuel> kicker is the whole thing you see on the bottom...
[02:28] <abattoir> compilerwriter: the executable and the package(in a distro, for eg.) is called kicker
[02:28] <elbing> TeePOG, sorry I can't help you then. Usually, permissions in default installation are the same in all cd's. I don't know why it has been changed. Get luck
[02:28] <sredna> what is the smartest way of moving my home directory to this new HD - dd or tar?
[02:29] <elbing> cp -r
[02:29] <compilerwriter> Unfortuneately abattoir the substitution also hinders the new user from learning that the thing is called kicker.  I didn't learn that until today.
[02:29] <sredna> elbing: at the very least cp -ra then ;)
[02:29] <elbing> heh
[02:29] <elbing> you asked for smartest :p
[02:30] <sredna> do you think not using the -a is smarter?
[02:30] <elbing> not, I don't think to use dd or tar xD
[02:30] <KiPSeRoN> why when i type
[02:30] <KiPSeRoN> grep -P "/somthing/" file
[02:30] <KiPSeRoN> why its say
[02:30] <KiPSeRoN> grep: The -P option is not supported
[02:31] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[02:31] <compilerwriter> Well then I suppose I could go get v2 and try it out.  Should I find that I like it I suppose I would then have to edit some environment files to replace kicker with the newer version no?
[02:31] <sredna> KiPSeRoN: what do you expect -P to do?
[02:31] <KiPSeRoN> its perl regex
[02:32] <sredna> KiPSeRoN: i don't think that is supported.
[02:32] <KiPSeRoN> but how i can fix it
[02:32] <KiPSeRoN> i want it to be sopported
[02:32] <sredna> KiPSeRoN: -E for extended regex
[02:33] <sredna> to use perl style regex, install pcre, that comes with a grep tool
[02:34] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[02:34] <KiPSeRoN> man
[02:34] <KiPSeRoN> =[
[02:34] <KiPSeRoN> =] 
[02:35] <adry90> buongiorno
[02:35] <adry90> mi servirebbe aiuto
[02:35] <KiPSeRoN> grep -P "^http/jpg$" s
[02:35] <KiPSeRoN> grep: The -P option is not supported
[02:35] <adry90> c' qualkuno?
[02:35] <Jucato> !it | adry90
[02:35] <ubotu> adry90: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:35] <adry90> scusate...qui  il canale inglese
[02:35] <KiPSeRoN> after i install the pcre
[02:37] <compilerwriter> Jucato must one install V2 by hand?
[02:38] <Jucato> compilerwriter: you can try by foot if you want to. but yeah.manually
[02:38] <Jucato> I think there's a .deb package floating around. ask fuel
[02:38] <compilerwriter> Jucato: Oh lord.
[02:38] <Jucato> :)
[02:38] <compilerwriter> fuel: is there a deb package for taskbar v2 about?
[02:40] <fuel> compilerwriter: dunno .... i installed it by hand :). but i can try building one
[02:40] <fuel> compilerwriter: you have to wait :)
[02:41] <dcorbin_enttek> A co-worker has (somehow) mangled his kubutnu. After he logs in (via some form of ?DM), his keyboard will not work.
[02:41] <dcorbin_enttek> Not even to switch to a virtual console (CTRL-ALT-F1).
[02:41] <compilerwriter> fuel: Jucato: I am willing to try to do a manual install, with some guidance.  There might be a technical issue or two though.
[02:41] <dcorbin_enttek> Any ideas?
[02:41] <Jucato> fuel: you compiled from source?
[02:42] <fuel> Jucato: Yes!
[02:42] <Jucato> fuel: good for you! (and yet it crashed?)
[02:42] <Jucato> seems like it hasn't changed yet...
[02:42] <Jucato> s/changed/improved/
[02:42] <fuel> Jucato: actually i tried removing taskbar 2 and then added taskbar(original)...
[02:43] <fuel> kicker crashed :(. had to restart kicker
[02:43] <Jucato> ah... yeah I vaguely remember that...
[02:43] <Jucato> anyway brb..
[02:44] <Rekisser> Hello!
[02:45] <Rekisser> I am a "newbye" kubuntu user from Buelorussia. Please help me how to access internet through VPN.
[02:46] <Rekisser> If there a mode? It is very difficult to read manuals & 2 downloading packages without internet, please help me.
[02:50] <Rekisser> smb... Plz. 3 days passed finding solution %|
[02:52] <abattoir> !vpn | Rekisser
[02:52] <ubotu> Rekisser: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:01] <Rekisser> abattoir: ty!
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:01] <abattoir> Rekisser: np :)
[03:01] <abattoir> hi BluesKaj
[03:01] <BluesKaj> hi abattoir, how goes it ?
[03:02] <abattoir> BluesKaj: fine, with you?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> yeah , very good thx, ...I'm looking for a utlilty that will burn albums (wavfiles) on dvd
[03:04] <BluesKaj> I have some albums that I don't want to compress which K3B won't burn due to the file size , or are there tricks one can use with with K3B to make it work
[03:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:05] <enry> how to make multichannel working on sb live??
[03:06] <abattoir> BluesKaj: converting them to flac is not an option?
[03:06] <enry> 4 channels are not recognized, i read it's a kernel problem
[03:06] <abattoir> BluesKaj: you could overburn, depending on the medium and the extra space
[03:06] <oem> i downloaded installed Wine and rebooted the pc. but i cannot find it in my K-menu
[03:06] <enry> module external drivers would be needed, but i don't know how to recompile and use other drivers
[03:06] <BluesKaj> well, the albums are flac and have been converted back to wav
[03:07] <ruedi> !ati
[03:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:07] <enry> !soundblaster
[03:07] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[03:08] <BluesKaj> oem , in the runbox type wine, see what happens
[03:08] <oem> ok
[03:08] <oem> alt-F2 right?
[03:08] <abattoir> oem: i think only applications installed through wine make it to the menu
[03:09] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:09] <abattoir> oem: yeah, or you can try executing 'wine <filename>.exe' on the command line(terminal/konsole
[03:09] <abattoir> )
[03:10] <BluesKaj> or you could try katapult , alt+space
[03:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:11] <oem> hummmm run command didnt find it
[03:12] <oem> Katapult is that on the repository list
[03:12] <BluesKaj> wine has strange behaviour on my pc as well , works sometimes , sometimes not
[03:12] <oem> well i tried cedega and it will not mount my cdrom drive
[03:12] <BluesKaj> !katapult
[03:12] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:13] <Jucato> oem: katapult is installed by default
[03:13] <Jucato> (on a default Kubuntu installation)
[03:13] <oem> o ok didnt know that i am kinda new to linux in general so tired of using half weeks s pay for the next OS know what i mean
[03:15] <xoss> what would be the alternative for corel graphics suite in kubuntu?
[03:15] <Jucato> which one specifically?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> gimp?
[03:16] <xoss> corel draw
[03:16] <Jucato> SVG = Inkscape, Xara, Karbon14
[03:16] <xoss> and photo paint too
[03:16] <xoss> ahh.. ok, thanks Jucato..
[03:17] <Jucato>  Raster graphics = Krita or the GIMP
[03:23] <jsroy> Hello, I have a strange problem with Konqueror, Amarok and caracter encoding of my files and I am stuck. Could anobody help me with this?
[03:23] <Rekisser> Hello again.
[03:23] <jsroy> Hello :-)
[03:24] <sredna> no lan:/ in kubuntu?
[03:24] <fuel> sredna: smb:/
[03:24] <Rekisser> In manual here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD written, what i have 2 unstall pptpd (apt-get install pptpd ipx ipxripd) where can i get it?
[03:25] <sredna> fuel: why?
[03:25] <sredna> there are no windows machines
[03:25] <guiden> when I mark a border of a picture with a size of 1px, does the picture get 1px bigger or does it cut the picture?
[03:26] <fuel> sredna: that i donot know........either you have not configured your lan or a issue with firewall
[03:26] <fuel> !smb | sredna
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <fuel> !lan | sredna
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <guiden> ops
[03:27] <guiden> wrong channel
[03:44] <ForgeAus> hey all
[03:45] <BluesKaj> hey ForgeAus
[03:52] <Kite_DH> !aptfix
[03:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:53] <Rekisser> Help me please! In manual here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD written, what i have 2 unstall pptpd (apt-get install pptpd ipx ipxripd) where can i get it?
[03:59] <Rekisser> !vpn
[03:59] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:59] <Rekisser> !pptpd
[03:59] <ubotu> pptpd: PoPToP Point to Point Tunneling Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 232 kB
[04:00] <Rekisser> Help me smb, where i can get it? ^)
[04:00] <jhutchins> !packages
[04:00] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:00] <jhutchins> !mirrors
[04:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:01] <jhutchins> !easysource
[04:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:01] <jhutchins> !v pptpd
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v pptpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Rekisser> TY!
[04:30] <BluesKaj> splittsville again ? seems to be happening a lot lately.
[04:33] <morphinex> howdy folks
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Hiddy-De-Hoo!
[04:35] <BluesKaj> hey
[04:36] <morphinex> I'm getting grub error 23 when I try to boot with a new HD in place
[04:36] <Dr_willis> the order of the drives have changed.. may be confusing things.. Hmm. not sure what error23 means however.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> 23 : Error while parsing number
[04:37] <Dr_willis>     This error is returned if GRUB was expecting to read a number and encountered bad data.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> sounds like its trying to read off the wrong drive..
[04:37] <morphinex> Yes, that seems to be exactly the problem
[04:37] <morphinex> But I don't understand why it is trying to read off the new drive!
[04:37] <Dr_willis> grub 'enumerates' the drive on the fly. so if you added a new drive , the drives 'below' it got shifted down one #
[04:38] <Dr_willis> what drive was the boot data on befor?
[04:38] <morphinex> It is on the first drive on the second ide bus
[04:38] <BluesKaj> what's a good program to set up a music server in (k)ubuntu ?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> and where did you add the new drive to?
[04:39] <morphinex> slave on ide1
[04:39] <ruedi> !radeon
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  yep.. that shifted the drives 'down' one number
[04:39] <morphinex> So I need to change menu.lst to reflect that?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> hd0 was first master, first ide.  hd1 WAS the 2nd drive originially, that got shifted to hd2 (is my guess)
[04:40] <Dr_willis> yep.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> You can edit the grub boot menu to change the line as a test.
[04:40] <morphinex> Before, the ide1 master was a cd-r drive
[04:40] <morphinex> I think ide2 master was hd0
[04:41] <BluesKaj> !server
[04:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:41] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  check the     /boot/grub/device.map
[04:42] <Dr_willis> also your root/boot stuff may need both to be changed in the menu.lst
[04:42] <Dr_willis> root            (hd1,0)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
[04:42] <morphinex> (hd0) /dev/hdc
[04:42] <morphinex> (hd1) /dev/hdd
[04:42] <kalmisto> I have following problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377640 . Anyone has glue?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Im not sure if grub JUST reads the device map when you run 'update' grub or every time it loads.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  you got no hda or hdb?
[04:43] <morphinex> well
[04:43] <morphinex> I have hdb and hdc
[04:43] <morphinex> no hda for whatever reason
[04:43] <morphinex> hdb is where I installed the new drive
[04:43] <morphinex> hdc is where the old drives are
[04:43] <morphinex> I've never seen hdd before
[04:43] <Dr_willis> so it proberly  is seeing hdb as (hd0) now not hdc
[04:44] <morphinex> oooh, I see
[04:44] <Dr_willis> I think the device.map is only read  when you 'update-grub' or 'grub-install'
[04:44] <morphinex> And hdd is what used to be hdc?
[04:44] <Dr_willis> you might be able to correct it.. and  rerun the grub-install
[04:45] <Dr_willis> hdc is the device name those 'shouldent' move. but how grub numbers the drives  can change depending on the drives in the system
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Ive heard if you do some things this 'wont' happen.. :) but not sure what you do. (put the jumpers on master/slave, not cable select i think)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Ive got 7 hds' in this box. heh.
[04:46] <morphinex> heh, I have it set up that way
[04:46] <morphinex> I had a hell of a time jsut getting the damn bios to play nice
[04:46] <Dr_willis> with the next genreation of disrtos.  i hear grub will start using the UUID device names/numbers so in theory - it should always find the right drive.
[04:47] <morphinex> sweet
[04:47] <Dr_willis> too bad the uuid stuff makes the command lines so UGLY. :)
[04:47] <morphinex> Yeah, but if stuff happens automagically we won't have to deal with the command lines so often ;)
[04:47] <max_> na
[04:47] <tasos> test
[04:48] <Dr_willis> i have no problem with the command line. :)
[04:48] <Dr_willis> I have more issues with having to 'trouble shoot' automagic things that break.
[04:48] <tasos> msgsnarf does not display the lines
[04:48] <tasos> damn
[04:48] <Dr_willis> tasos,  Huh?
[04:48] <tasos> yes
[04:48] <morphinex> So I'm still not really sure what I need to do. Do I just need to re-install grub?
[04:48] <bewl> !mpeg
[04:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <tasos> 1,2 test #2
[04:50] <tasos> failed
[04:52] <tasos> hello all people
[04:52] <LL_Hakaisou> hello
[04:53] <lwells> i have breezy, how can i upgrade
[04:53] <morphinex> So my device.map needs to look like this:
[04:53] <morphinex> (hd0) /dev/hdb
[04:53] <morphinex> (hd1) /dev/hdc
[04:53] <morphinex> (hd2) /dev/hdd
[04:53] <morphinex> is that correct?
[04:54] <one> how do i play hddvd video files (*.evo) on kubuntu, which player to use ?
[04:56] <lwells> what is the latest version of kubuntu
[04:56] <Jucato> !edgy | lwells
[04:56] <ubotu> lwells: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:56] <adridox> buenas
[04:57] <lwells> can i upgrade without reinstalling?
[04:57] <Jucato> lwells: you have to upgrade to dapper first then to edgy
[04:58] <Jucato> lwells: special instructions in upgrading from dapper to edgy
[04:58] <Jucato> !upgrade | lwells
[04:58] <ubotu> lwells: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:58] <peterman_> how to install the "radeon" drivers?
[04:59] <lwells> how do i find out what version i am running
[04:59] <chavo> lwells, lsb_release -a
[05:00] <lwells> 6.06 dapper
[05:01] <morphinex> Dr_willis: ok, I think I modified my files to reflect the changes, and I did update-grubn
[05:01] <morphinex> I will now try to reboot... you may never see me again ;)
[05:03] <kalmisto> exit
[05:03] <Dr_willis> peterman,  the radeon drivers are  included i thought.
[05:04] <lwells> i cant just upgrade from my desktop??
[05:05] <NSCAD_Nathan> Hi.  Just put a SoundBlaster Live! PCI soundcard in my machine and killed the mobo sound.  Now I can't seem to get the new card working.  Anyone know of a decent howto?
[05:05] <NSCAD_Nathan> (using Edgy)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> !update
[05:05] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[05:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:05] <Dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  the card should work.. ive just never swaped one 'in' and reconfigured the system to use it..
[05:06] <NSCAD_Nathan> Nah.  It's not happening
[05:06] <Dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  but i bet the wiki/forums proberly have notes by others that have done it.
[05:06] <NSCAD_Nathan> Yeah I'm trying to find something, but its harder than I thought
[05:06] <Dr_willis> perhaps 'suso dpkg-reconfigure alsa'
[05:06] <Dr_willis> but not 100% sure.
[05:06] <NSCAD_Nathan> worth a shot
[05:06] <NSCAD_Nathan> I'll try that
[05:06] <NSCAD_Nathan> thanks
[05:07] <jhutchins> WTF is ubuntu doing running arts?
[05:07] <Jezzuz> Anyone able to help on a prob with kexi ?
[05:07] <jhutchins> No wonder everybody's having trouble with soundblasters.
[05:08] <jhutchins> !find kexi
[05:08] <ubotu> Found: libkexif1, libkexif1-dev, kexi-mdb-driver, kexi
[05:08] <NSCAD_Nathan> jhutchins - what are the implications of ARTS?
[05:08] <jhutchins> !kexi
[05:08] <ubotu> kexi: integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2925 kB, installed size 8984 kB
[05:08] <Dr_willis> ive no problems with my soundblaster....
[05:08] <Dr_willis> well its an AUdigy2zs :)
[05:08] <jhutchins> arts was obsolete by... 2000 if not earlier.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> willis@mint:/boot/grub$ ps ax | grep arts
[05:08] <Dr_willis>  9786 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[05:09] <NSCAD_Nathan> dpkg-reconfigure returns "alsa not installed"?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> my computer was obsolete by then..
[05:09] <NSCAD_Nathan> but it is
[05:09] <Dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,  that may not be the proper 'name' for dpkg-reconfgure
[05:09] <jhutchins> Yet it still runs, on Mandriva as well.
[05:09] <d0uglas> !wpa
[05:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:09] <jhutchins> Oh well.
[05:09] <NSCAD_Nathan> oh, I think it's called alsa-base
[05:10] <d0uglas> the wpa keys that are regular normal words (not long-ass gobbledy-gook strings)... what type of wpa is that? and is it more "doable" on linux than whatever the other type of wpa is?
[05:11] <Alpha_Cluster> d0uglas: should be ASCII then
[05:11] <d0uglas> nothing to do with this shared key business?
[05:11] <d0uglas> ... i'll just rtfm
[05:11] <kruno_> Hello every1! Could somebody tell how to convert with nrg2iso this file: /home/kruno/Norton Ghost 2003/Ghost2003.nrg ?
[05:11] <NSCAD_Nathan> bah.  Not working
[05:12] <NSCAD_Nathan> should I be able to see the card when I lspci?
[05:12] <NSCAD_Nathan> because I'm not sure it's there
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if you cant see it with lspci - that may be the whole issue
[05:12] <jhutchins> d0uglas: ascii keys are stored in hex anyway.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> i get ----->  00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> for my card
[05:13] <andrea_> .
[05:13] <d0uglas> gotchya
[05:13] <NSCAD_Nathan> I have a bunch of Intel, the VGA, IEEE1394, ethernet.  Nothing by Creative
[05:13] <d0uglas> i've gone through this wpa supplicant adventure in debian.. am i in store for the same ride here essentially (plus a sudo command before apting)?
[05:13] <NSCAD_Nathan> which makes me wonder
[05:13] <NSCAD_Nathan> maybe I'll switch slots and see if that fixes the lspci problem
[05:14] <Dr_willis> NSCAD_Nathan,    id say power down.. unplug from wall. remove card.. put in diffefent slot. :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> yep.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> sounds like a plan
[05:14] <NSCAD_Nathan> ok.  bbl
[05:14] <Dr_willis> could test with a live cd also
[05:14] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: Make sure you've got things working at the BIOS level too, block the old card, config the new.
[05:14] <jhutchins> Does kubuntu handle P&P cards correctly, or does it need the BIOS to do that?
[05:14] <namon> Hi
[05:15] <namon> is there a way to get the default kde without all those patches from kubuntu team? (default logout screen, display setup in kcontrol and so on)?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> namon,  thers some extra kde packages that install a lot of the 'normal' kde things..
[05:16] <Dr_willis> and you could remove the .kde dir and it will 'reset' to  most of the normal kde defaults (i think)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> but given that i very few disrtos even use the 'vanilla kde' stuff.. Im not even sure what is the defaults any more.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I would like to see 'all' disrtos have a 'use kde vanilla' as an option however.
[05:18] <jhutchins> namon: You can, of course, remove all the kde packages and use the kde package manager to install it directly from kde sources.
[05:18] <namon> Dr_willis: hmm, i dont want to break my system.. i just want the default kde, as used in slackware, fedora or so.. i may be happy with the debian version..
[05:18] <one> how do i play hddvd video files (*.evo) on kubuntu, which player to use ?
[05:18] <namon> jhutchins: which kde package manager?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> namon,  installing the extra packages wont break anything. I do it all the time.
[05:18] <jhutchins> one: Never heard of 'em.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> namon,  not sure about removing the extras you are refering to however.
[05:18] <one> ;-(
[05:19] <jhutchins> namon: They have an install/package manager, see kde.org.
[05:19] <namon> Dr_willis: i ve a full kde installation here, with all extas i think..
[05:20] <jhutchins> one: In fact, if you can find any reference to the format, I'd be interested.  I can't.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> namon,  yep. i tend to install 'everything' :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the  Kubuntu faq mentions a few pakcages - for the profiles and stuff.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[05:21] <Dr_willis> and searching through thepackage manager shows some other packages..  but i see no 'easy' way to have a 'vanilla' setup
[05:22] <HymnToLife> vanilla KDE ?
[05:22] <namon> yeah
[05:22] <HymnToLife> install a cli system with an alternate CD
[05:23] <HymnToLife> then apt-get install kde-core x-window-system-core
[05:23] <HymnToLife> or kde instead of kde-core if you want it all :p
[05:23] <hatta> it's always best to start with a minimal system anyway
[05:23] <hatta> keeps cruft low
[05:24] <namon> HymnToLife: so kubuntu ppl dont patch kde core? (logout screen is core, isnt it?)
[05:24] <marcreichelt> hiho
[05:24] <HymnToLife> namon, yes
[05:25] <marcreichelt> I've got a notebook, and if it is working with battery, the screensaver is not displayed
[05:25] <HymnToLife> so if you like a GUI for installation
[05:25] <HymnToLife> you can install ubuntu, apt-get install kde-core
[05:25] <HymnToLife> and remove ubuntu
[05:26] <marcreichelt> is there a possibility to configure it that the screensaver is always displayed?
[05:26] <marcreichelt> I can't find any configuration possibility to do this
[05:26] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i need some capital to start custom building kubuntu desktop systems for people... :\
[05:27] <one> jhutchins in widnow spowerdvd plays it, the only player ive found ;-(
[05:27] <one> jhutchins is vc-1 codec
[05:30] <CelestialDog> is there a program that can view chm files on kubuntu?
[05:30] <marcreichelt> CelestialDog: xchm
[05:30] <CelestialDog> thank you
[05:31] <marcreichelt> CelestialDog: it is in the "universe" repository
[05:31] <CelestialDog> downloading it now thank you :)
[05:32] <guiden> is there a tool in kde that can get color code anywhere from the screen?
[05:32] <apokryphos> kcoloredit
[05:32] <LjL> guiden: yeah - the standard color picker dialog. get it from any program
[05:34] <jsroy_> jsroy
[05:37] <M-ichi> hi
[05:38] <jhutchins> one: Where do they come from?
[05:38] <jhutchins> one: Can't find spowerdvd on google either.
[05:39] <mcreichelt> guiden: should be in "kdeaddons" package
[05:40] <mcreichelt> the color picker is an applet for Kicker which allows you to pick a color from anywhere on the screen
[05:40] <jhutchins> marcreichelt: I would guess it's in the power management configuration.
[05:40] <guiden> ok
[05:40] <mcreichelt> jhutchins: yesm but where?
[05:40] <mcreichelt> ;)
[05:41] <mcreichelt> that was the first location I looked for
[05:44] <malik_> amarok 1.4.5 is makin my mechine incredibly slow.......should i get rid of it n go back to 1.4.3 which came with edgy?
[05:46] <TheInfinity> malik_: perhaps first rebuilding the database because there might be an error?
[05:47] <mcreichelt> jhutchins: I'm on battery right now
[05:47] <mcreichelt> If I lock the screen, the screensaver is not visible
[05:48] <jhutchins> mcreichelt: That is the expeceted and normally preferred behavior.
[05:48] <malik_> nooops databse is just fine
[05:48] <mcreichelt> if I switch in the cable again (and dislock and lock it again), it is visible
[05:48] <mcreichelt> yes
[05:48] <mcreichelt> but I want that it always is visible if I lock the screen :)
[05:49] <malik_> edgy came with 1.4.3 n i kept upgrading amarok from that to 1.4.4 n then to 1.4.5 n with every upgrade it slowed down but now its veryyyyyyyyyyyy slow
[05:49] <fuel> amarok is damn slow!! no doubt about that
[05:50] <jhutchins> fuel: Compared to what?
[05:51] <fuel> jhutchins: no comparisons.....its just slow.....
[05:51] <jhutchins> Plays music for me at normal speed.
[05:51] <fdoving> so your  music is played slower or what?
[05:51] <fuel> try changing songs
[05:51] <fuel> and set in random mode
[05:52] <mcreichelt> jhutchins: so is there a possibility to change this, or is this function hard-coded in the screensaver code?
[05:52] <malik_> playin of the music is ok but response to operational clicks is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:52] <fuel> yeah....
[05:52] <fuel> and it does not fill songs in a bunch
[05:53] <fuel> it adds a new song for each click which takes time
[05:53] <malik_> like if i was to click on stop i click n it stops after good 30 odd sec
[05:53] <jhutchins> mcreichelt: Like I said, it's probably in the power management software, and yes of course you can chaneg it (even if it IS hardcoded), but not having kubuntu on your brand of laptop, I don't know the details.
[05:54] <jhutchins> fuel: No problems here, AMD 1.8 w/ 512 RAM, music stored on remote server two hops away.
[05:54] <mcreichelt> hmm...
[05:54] <mcreichelt> k
[05:56] <eddy> hi
[05:56] <mcreichelt> then I will probably have to leave it the way it is
[05:56] <kruno_> i could use some help with nrg2iso if someone worked with it..
[05:57] <malik_> kruno_: sounds like nero prepared that image
[05:57] <kruno_> yap :)
[05:57] <malik_> u will need nero burnin software for that
[05:57] <eddy> guys, how do I open a .rpm file?
[05:58] <kruno_> nrg2iso is a converter, but i cant start it
[05:58] <LjL> eddy: RPMs are used by other distributions, Ubuntu uses the APT system (which uses .deb files)
[05:58] <malik_> eddy: rpm is for fedora/redhat/mandriva.......... ubuntu/kubuntu uses .deb pacakges
[05:58] <stdin> kruno_: iirc, it's a command line app, so you need to use konsole
[05:58] <eddy> okay, thx
[05:58] <LjL> if you really want or need to install an RPM package anyway, there's a possibility that you can, but it's also likely that you'll break part of your system in the process.
[05:59] <kruno_> ok, it should be: nrg2iso image.nrg image.iso, but cant do it
[05:59] <stdin> kruno_: can't? why?
[05:59] <kruno_> i am doing something wrong, newbie :)
[06:00] <stdin> kruno_: what happens when you try?
[06:00] <kruno_> it's in this directory: /home/kruno/Norton Ghost 2003   file name is Ghost2003.nrg
[06:00] <mcreichelt> kruno_: what happens if you execute the command?
[06:01] <kruno_> i'll tell you just a sec
[06:01] <kruno_> mcreichelt: it says: no such file. i dont really manage this terminal stuf
[06:02] <mcreichelt> you have empty characters
[06:02] <kruno_> i supose i should travel to that file through the command line, but i dont know how.
[06:02] <mcreichelt> try to rename the file to norton.nrg
[06:02] <mcreichelt> then do "nrg2iso norton.nrg norton.iso" in the console
[06:03] <kruno_> i did now, again no such file
[06:03] <stdin> kruno_: 1st "cd  /home/kruno/Norton\ Ghost\ 2003/", then "nrg2iso Ghost2003.nrg Ghost2003.iso"
[06:04] <stdin> kruno_: or replace the file names with the new ones
[06:04] <kruno_> oh thank you stdin! that was it.
[06:05] <stdin> kruno_: when you have spaces in a path, or a file, you have to put a '\' before it
[06:05] <kruno_> this is third time i asked for help here and you helped me. thanks guys :)
[06:05] <kruno_> tx stdin!
[06:06] <stdin> kruno_: or you can use "Tab completion" , where you type part of the path/filename, then press tab to auto-complet it
[06:06] <mcreichelt> haha, I expected that you were in the right directory kruno_ ;)
[06:07] <mcreichelt> jhutchins: it may be that I found a solution for my screensaver problem
[06:07] <mcreichelt> wait a minute, I'm right back...
[06:09] <marcreichelt> no :-/
[06:10] <guiden> MAJOR DISASTOR!!!!!!! I can only choose between 640x400 and 640x480. WHAT SHOULD I DO? it's like going back 10 years in time...
[06:10] <marcreichelt> I tried to change the variable "dpmsEnabled" from True to False in the files XScreenSaver, XScreenSaver-gl and XScreenSaver-nogl in in /etc/X11/app-defaults
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> guiden: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <jhutchins> marcreichelt: Once again, it's not the screensaver, it's the power management software.
[06:11] <jhutchins> guiden: What DID you do?
[06:11] <marcreichelt> so, back to work ;)
[06:11] <marcreichelt> bye
[06:13] <sean> Hello everyone!  Question:  what file do I need to change to have 915resolution start at boot?
[06:14] <guiden> bus card identifier
[06:15] <guiden> I don't know if I have pci or agp
[06:15] <guiden> is the pci the old one?
[06:16] <stdin> sean: nothing, it should run at boot be default, as long as you have put the settings in /etc/default/915resolution
[06:16] <guiden> I have a special card for my graphiccard on my motherboard, is it agp?
[06:17] <guiden> PCI:1:0:0
[06:18] <guiden> is this the right one if I have a special slot for my graphic card?
[06:18] <stdin> guiden: it could be in any slot
[06:20] <jhutchins> guiden: lspci will show either a PCI or an AGP card.
[06:22] <bentob0x> what is the www-data group for?
[06:23] <bentob0x> !www-data
[06:23] <guiden> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] 
[06:23] <guiden> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]  (Secondary)
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about www-data - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <guiden> PCI:1:0:0
[06:24] <guiden> is correct then?
[06:25] <deanhatescoffee> I'm trying to run the live/install CD for 6.10 - does anyone know anything about this error - "[17179571.916000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> that should be the vga out. the other is the tv out. I belive
[06:25] <Dr_willis> guiden,  i used to have such a card. :)
[06:25] <guiden> hehe ok
[06:26] <Dr_willis> guiden,  this is a laptop? desktop? agp card?
[06:26] <acidx> Hey All!
[06:26] <guiden> AGP:1:0:0?
[06:26] <guiden> stationary, desktop
[06:26] <acidx> Hey , Is this the right place to seek assistance? :)
[06:27] <raylu> Yes
[06:28] <guiden> Dr_willis should I use the defaul as PCI:1:0:0 or change it to AGP:1:0:0?
[06:28] <acidx> Good :) .. i have a cdromless laptop.. (thinkpad x60) .. and i was wondering if its possible to use an external HD as the installation "cd" somehow ?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> guiden,  its a built in onboard card?
[06:29] <acidx> in order to install ubuntu i mean ..offcourse..
[06:29] <guiden> no
[06:29] <Dr_willis> if its an agp card.. use agp :) i guess.
[06:29] <guiden> ok
[06:30] <Dr_willis> ive never had to fight with the ati cards that much. ubuntu was very smart about them
[06:30] <Dr_willis> then a 2 min install to get the fglrx drivers.. restart X and wasy i go.
[06:30] <mauro> acidx: i think there is, not sure how though
[06:30] <acidx> :|
[06:31] <mauro> acidx: do you have another computer you can use?
[06:31] <mauro> uhm
[06:31] <mauro> nevermind
[06:31] <acidx> amm yeah i have thinkpad r50e running Ubuntu
[06:31] <acidx> and a very old pc ;p
[06:31] <mauro> acidx: hold on, let me look for some info
[06:31] <mauro> i know it can be done
[06:31] <acidx> gr8 thnx
[06:32] <soulrider> !wiki
[06:32] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[06:32] <acidx> i saw the server installation option but on the firstlook it seems a bit too complicated..
[06:34] <soulrider> acidx: i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376753&highlight=installation+no+cd
[06:34] <stdin> acidx: this page has instructions for different ways to install, including CD-less install options https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:34] <kats_> Question: Does anyone know any issues regarding wifi in 6.10? I know there are like 1000 threads on google about this, but I haven't come accross usefull information yet.
[06:35] <acidx> thnxxxxx y'all . I'll take a look
[06:35] <userund> kats_: it depends on the chipset
[06:35] <kats_> Intel >.<
[06:35] <guiden> ok now I reboot
[06:35] <guiden> I HOPE!!!
[06:35] <userund> kats_: you have to be more specific.  some intel chipsets like ipw2200 are very well supported.
[06:36] <deanhatescoffee> Howdy everyone - I'm trying to run the live/install CD for 6.10 - does anyone know anything about this error - "[17179571.916000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"?
[06:36] <kats_> userund: ipw3945
[06:37] <userund> kats_: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=15755615
[06:37] <kats_> userund: thanks, checking it out.
[06:37] <acidx> soulrider thnx that was my post :) but actually if i can mount the iso on an usb stick (key) isnt it possibe to do the same with external 160g harddrive?
[06:37] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191355
[06:38] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Some guy shows how he fixed that issue there.
[06:38] <deanhatescoffee> Thanks kats_
[06:38] <kats_> <3
[06:39] <kats_> userund: Man, wifi is so depressing. haha
[06:40] <userund> kats_: yes it can be tough.
[06:40] <guiden> ITS WORKING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:41] <deanhatescoffee> What happens when someone disables IOAPIC?  What does IOAPIC do?
[06:41] <guiden> ah
[06:41] <userund> http://www.google.com/search?q=ioapic
[06:41] <guiden> now I have the highest resolution I can have to make me forget the horrible expirence 640*400 gave me
[06:42] <kats_> userund: IOAPIC=I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
[06:42] <userund> deanhatescoffee: rule of thumb, if you don't know what something does, leave it on.
[06:42] <kats_> eep, wrong name. my bad =o
[06:42] <kats_> Yeah, lol.
[06:42] <deanhatescoffee> heh, I was thinking the same thing userund
[06:43] <deanhatescoffee> er, kats_ ;)
[06:43] <kats_> Oooh.
[06:44] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: It is a function found on some Intel boards. When it is enabled it is an enhanced interrupt controller, able to route hardware interrupts to multiple CPUs, or to CPU groups.
[06:45] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Apparently, some boards make it unsafe to enable IO-APIC. You can safely disable it, if it is giving you issues =)
[06:45] <deanhatescoffee> So if I disable it, it doesn't sound like it's going to kill my computer right?  It'll just be a little slower?
[06:45] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: In linux that is.
[06:45] <kats_> deanhatescofee: Nah. :) http://lwn.net/1998/0205/io-apic.html
[06:46] <deanhatescoffee> Can I permanently disable it in Linux, while permantently enabling it in Windows?
[06:46] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: I dont think I have it on my board, but isn't it a bios option?
[06:47] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: To answer your question, I don't know =(
[06:47] <deanhatescoffee> I believe so... I'm not too familiar with BIOS and whatnot
[06:47] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: hmm
[06:47] <deanhatescoffee> That's ok, this is the best info I've found so far :)
[06:48] <MarkCh> hi guys, how do i convert gnome iconsets to kde?
[06:48] <kats_> ooh
[06:48] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: try booting with "noapic"
[06:49] <deanhatescoffee> (I'm a n00b) How do I do that?  *please don't hit me!*  ;)
[06:50] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: On the Live CD?
[06:50] <deanhatescoffee> Yeah, the live CD
[06:50] <jhutchins> deanhatescoffee: Believe me, you won't notice any speed difference.
[06:50] <deanhatescoffee> cool
[06:51] <kubuntero> how can i have the hard drive overwrite the live cd/
[06:51] <LjL> "question of the year"
[06:51] <jhutchins> kubuntero: Please restate your question.
[06:52] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Sec, I'm not sure either :)
[06:52] <kubuntero> jhutchins: how can i have the fhs on the hard drive mapped over the ones on the live cd fhs in memory/
[06:52] <kubuntero> well i just really need the /home
[06:52] <jhutchins> fhs?
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntero: mount the drive
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !diskmounter
[06:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:52] <LjL> just boot with the root=/dev/hda1 kernel parameters (assuming hda1 is your partition)
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thats not it...
[06:53] <jhutchins> !mount
[06:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:53] <LjL> if /home is a separate partition, then yeah you can mount it alone
[06:53] <jhutchins> In fact, you can mount it over /home, mount /dev/hd* /home
[06:53] <kubuntero> LjL: ahhh so the kernel will come from my live cd/
[06:53] <LjL> yes kubuntero
[06:54] <kubuntero> jhutchins: doesn't work as well as you think unless i have a ubuntu user on the hard drive already
[06:54] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: At the main menu, hit F6. in front of the "--" at the end of the line try adding noapic. This is just a guess.
[06:54] <jhutchins> kubuntero: Not necessarily.
[06:54] <kubuntero> jhutchins: anything i try to start dies it seems
[06:54] <deanhatescoffee> Sweetness, thanks kats_
[06:55] <hak5fan> how can i upgrade form kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 i've tried running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, but it didn't upgrade kde. I have the standard and universe repos.
[06:55] <kubuntero> LjL: so i press f6 at the boot up prompt screen and add on root=/dev/device?
[06:55] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Hope it works :( there are tons of threads on ubuntuforums.org about this. :)
[06:55] <kubuntero> jhutchins: i guess if i copy the /etc/passwd over the one the live cd provides it would work
[06:56] <deanhatescoffee> kats_: Yeah, unfortunately they're either abandoned or above my head :)  I needed the F6 info, that should help lots
[06:56] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Yeah, I know the feeling :)  I'm going to get back to work and log off, good luck alright?
[06:56] <LjL> kubuntero: well, probably. i don't really remember the specifics of how the CD bootloader works, but it sounds like it.
[06:56] <LjL> !bootoptions
[06:56] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:57] <deanhatescoffee> Thanks kats_
[06:57] <deanhatescoffee> I gtg back to work as well ;)
[06:57] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: Hey, I just looked at the above link and try adding "noapic nolapic" instead.
[06:57] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: I think that's what your looking for.
[06:57] <deanhatescoffee> Will do :)
[06:57] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: "Impact: A broken "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller" may work with this option. They usually randomly freeze machines or produce repetitive messages about IRQ issues."
[06:58] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: If that doesnt work then you can just try the "noacpi"
[06:58] <deanhatescoffee> "noacpi" or "noapic"?  Maybe try both?  ;) jk
[06:59] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: You could, but I think you should try to get it working before you disable it =)
[07:00] <deanhatescoffee> Yeah... can't seem to get it working though... btw, what's the difference between the live/install CD vs DVD?
[07:00] <kubuntero> LjL, jhutchins: i'll be back shortly :_)
[07:00] <kubuntero> deanhatescoffee: i think the dvd has al of main on it
[07:01] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: I'm not 100% sure, all the DVD iso(s) I have tried have been corrupt. I have one that boots and it has some extra boot options (Like installing a command line system) it probubly just has more packages that can be installed.
[07:01] <kats_> deanhatescoffee: ttyl =)
[07:01] <deanhatescoffee> Thanks again :)
[07:08] <Totem^> hi, does Herd 5 support the intel pro wireless 3945abg card?
[07:08] <kubuntero> !mountoptions
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountoptions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <kubuntero> !mount-options
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount-options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <kubuntero> LjL: what's the factiod/
[07:09] <LjL> !bootoptions
[07:09] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[07:09] <kubuntero> right :-)
[07:10] <wewek> what's date is for official feisty?
[07:11] <kubuntero> ok the live cd doesn't have root=/tmp/ram like the pictures
[07:11] <kubuntero>  it does have initrd=/casper/initrd.tar.gz
[07:11] <kubuntero> is that where the root is set/
[07:11] <kubuntero> ?
[07:12] <overall> Oh god I love my new nick
[07:12] <kubuntero> !feisty
[07:12] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:13] <kubuntero> !feisty | wewek
[07:13] <ubotu> wewek: please see above
[07:13] <wewek> oki thanx
[07:13] <Gizmo48> QUESTION:  During startup, right after system says it is checking filesystems, it asks for a passowrd.  THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.  Also, System hangs later with a cursor displayed and thats it.   Anyone know whats up?
[07:14] <jhutchins> Gizmo48: Corrupt filesystem.
[07:14] <Gizmo48> Oh, THATS not a good thing....   sure?
[07:14] <jhutchins> kubuntero: What is it you're trying to accomplish?
[07:15] <Totem^> hi, does Herd 5 support the intel pro wireless 3945abg card?
[07:16] <LjL> kubuntero: no just add the root= part
[07:16] <kubuntero> LjL: i did. didn't work
[07:16] <kubuntero> jhutchins: i want to work in a FEisty environment for a bit
[07:17] <LjL> kubuntero: then also change the initrd= part to initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic or whatever the file you have is
[07:17] <LjL> maybe
[07:17] <kubuntero> LjL: ah right :-)
[07:17] <LjL> not sure it'll work anyway
[07:17] <stdin> Totem^: Feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please, and Kubuntu Feisty specific questions in #kubuntu-devel
[07:18] <coreymon77> guys
[07:18] <coreymon77> when i use sudo i get this wierd error message
[07:18] <coreymon77> sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[07:18] <coreymon77> and then a date
[07:18] <coreymon77> my clock and date are correct
[07:19] <coreymon77> ive been told to change the date and time to after what the error message says
[07:19] <coreymon77> but i cant, because i cant run anything as root
[07:19] <stdin> coreymon77: try "sudo -K" that may fix it
[07:19] <kubuntero> coreymon77: check the sudoers file to see what time it says
[07:19] <coreymon77> stdin, that gives me the same message
[07:19] <kubuntero> LjL: so i can't use the .20 kernel?
[07:19] <coreymon77> kubuntero: where is that
[07:19] <coreymon77> ?
[07:20] <kubuntero> coreymon77: /etc/sudoers
[07:20] <coreymon77> kubuntero: but if its wrong, i cant change it, because i cant edit as root
[07:20] <LjL> kubuntero: hm, well, problem is - i guess - that the live cd's initrd is a quite different kind of fish from a standard initrd that you use on an installed system... so i suppose it'll be problematic to say the least
[07:21] <kubuntero> coreymon77: reboot in single mode
[07:21] <kubuntero> LjL: alright well all i really need is /home
[07:21] <coreymon77> kubuntero: what do i do once in single mode
[07:21] <LjL> kubuntero: but if your /home isn't a separate partition, you won't (AFAIK) be able to mount it under /home...
[07:21] <coreymon77> kubuntero: how do i change it to the right date
[07:22] <coreymon77> kubuntero: i was told to change the clock date to after the error message and then to correct it
[07:22] <coreymon77> kubuntero: but i dont knwo how
[07:22] <kubuntero> jhutchins, LjL: when i mount the /home partition on the drive to /home on the ram FHS then I can see my folders but no apps will start
[07:23] <kubuntero> coreymon77: you can just touch the file
[07:23] <coreymon77> kubuntero: oh
[07:23] <kubuntero> coreymon77: touch /etc/sudoers
[07:23] <coreymon77> kubuntero: you mean the sudoers file
[07:23] <coreymon77> kubuntero: and then change it to the right date right?
[07:23] <kubuntero> coreymon77: yeah i think so
[07:23] <kubuntero> coreymon77: yup
[07:23] <kubuntero> LjL: it is a seperate partition
[07:23] <coreymon77> kubuntero: and when you say touch
[07:23] <coreymon77> kubuntero: do you mean that as a command
[07:23] <kubuntero> coreymon77: try it now
[07:24] <MarkCh> lol.
[07:24] <coreymon77> kubuntero: or jut meaning that i cant edit it
[07:24] <MarkCh> touch the monitor?
[07:24] <MarkCh> its a cmd? :)
[07:24] <coreymon77> kubuntero: cant, im on one of my schools computers
[07:24] <MarkCh> i mean !
[07:24] <coreymon77> kubuntero: im not at home
[07:24] <coreymon77> kubuntero: im just finding out what to do when i get home
[07:24] <LjL> kubuntero: probably a matter of permissions... if both your user and the standard live cd user have ID 1000, i think it ought to work with no particular mount options, but i'm not too sure
[07:25] <LjL> kubuntero: try an "ls" on /home and your user's subdirectory, and see if the permissions make sense
[07:25] <coreymon77> kubuntero: is touch a command?
[07:25] <MarkCh> coreymon77: yes. it is.
[07:25] <coreymon77> MarkCh: what does it do?
[07:26] <coreymon77> MarkCh: quickly, i have to go
[07:26] <kubuntero> coreymon77: it makes the file the current date and time
[07:26] <MarkCh> it makes the file or changes its last accessed date
[07:26] <MarkCh> go.
[07:26] <LjL> kubuntero: i guess you still need to rename the default "ubuntu" user to your own username anyway.
[07:26] <kubuntero> coreymon77: or creates one
[07:26] <coreymon77> kubuntero: okay, thanks alot
[07:26] <coreymon77> kubuntero: bye guys
[07:26] <kubuntero> LjL: so copy the /etc/passwd from my / partion ?
[07:26] <kubuntero> coreymon77: bye
[07:26] <LjL> kubuntero: and /etc/group... yeah try that
[07:27] <kubuntero> LjL: alright thanks :)
[07:27] <kubuntero> i have to run to the airport now. i'll be back soon
[07:29] <weyer> a friend of mine is asking how to install kubuntu, but doesn't know if his system is 64bit or not... how can you check that under windows? (it's a intel R pentium cpu 3.40Ghz 2cpu)
[07:29] <weyer> don't know a lot about hardware myself
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> weyer: how old is the computer?
[07:30] <LjL> weyer: you can always install the 32 bit version, and that's actually often a good idea
[07:30] <wargoth> hi all
[07:30] <weyer> LjL: i was thinking the same thing
[07:30] <wargoth> does anybody costimezed thier console?
[07:31] <bigleon> Hey everyone, I have a Q, how do I install KDM Theme Manager? It is suppose to be able to be used for kubuntu, but only DL's for it i've found are "source" "Fedora" "SUSE" "Slackerware"
[07:31] <stdin> depends what you mean by customise
[07:31] <overAlI> ls
[07:31] <hatta> the console is fine as it is
[07:31] <weyer> Admiral_Chicago: about a year, so it's possible.  but he doesn't know the specs of the cpu's... i'll just go for 32bit
[07:31] <overAlI> what is katapult?
[07:32] <stdin> bigleon: "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yes its probaly 32
[07:32] <wargoth> bigleon: kubunt has it. just type kcontrol
[07:32] <bigleon> Okay, thank you.
[07:32] <stdin> !katapult | overAlI
[07:32] <ubotu> overAlI: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:33] <stdin> wargoth: it's not installed by default tho
[07:33] <wargoth> why? I've got it by default!
[07:34] <bigleon> I received the error "Couldn't find the KDM THeme"
[07:34] <stdin> wargoth: from a kubuntu install? strange, I had to apt-get it
[07:34] <wargoth> stdin: I never installed it
[07:34] <wargoth> stdin: but i've got it.
[07:34] <bigleon> Meh here an exact quote "E: Couldn't find package kdmtheme"
[07:34] <stdin> bigleon: "kdmtheme" not "KDM theme"
[07:34] <stdin> bigleon: 1 seb
[07:34] <stdin> *sec
[07:35] <wargoth> about console: I want to costomize file highlighting and VIM syntax highlighting
[07:35] <jim> test
[07:35] <stdin> bigleon: you have to have universe enabled
[07:35] <overAlI> ok
[07:35] <bigleon> Err, you'll have to walk me though enableing the universe
[07:35] <stdin> jim: the test worked :P
[07:35] <jim> Ta!
[07:35] <wargoth> bigleon: type kcontrol
[07:36] <wargoth> bigleon: it has a subsection
[07:36] <bigleon> In the Terminal Right?
[07:36] <LjL> !info kdmtheme
[07:36] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[07:36] <LjL> try enabling universe
[07:37] <stdin> bigleon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-775cf32093c1bb05fef1e24465c9be753d760275 tells you how to enable universe
[07:37] <wargoth> bigleon: yes, or katapult or alf+f2
[07:37] <alexander_> i have some problems with my wireless g card, can any one help me?
[07:37] <bigleon> alright it opened up
[07:37] <stdin> wargoth: it can't be installed by default, it's in universe
[07:37] <wargoth> stdin: kdmtheme doesn't work for me
[07:37] <bigleon> I"m using 6.06
[07:37] <wargoth> stdin: but I've got it as a subsection in the kcontrol list
[07:38] <stdin> wargoth: hmm, out of interest, how did you install kubuntu?
[07:38] <jim> How do I find and mount my windows c: drive please?
[07:39] <eilker> i am not sure what i installed xgl or aixgl , how can i know it ?
[07:39] <stdin> jim: there are instruction here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:39] <eilker> jim: sudo mount /dev/hda1  (if it is hda1)
[07:40] <wargoth> stdin: I've got kubuntu 6.06 then upgraded it to 6.10 via apt-get
[07:40] <wargoth> jim: man mount
[07:40] <wargoth> so what about my console or Konsole? :)
[07:40] <stdin> wargoth: well, only packages in main (and restricted) are installed by default
[07:41] <jim> Cheers!!
[07:41] <anders> yay :-)
[07:41] <wargoth> stdin: but it works. :) I haven't installed it alone
[07:42] <wargoth> I had Mandriva and it has wonderful console (bash)! I want it in Ubuntu
[07:43] <vicks> hi, i was eondering if anyone here can help me
[07:44] <anders> i wonder if i copy all my old config, kills kde and restarts it, if it will just work
[07:45] <vicks> when i boot up my kubuntu feisty, i get an out of sync on my screen on usplash
[07:46] <vicks> where can i configure the resolution on usplash?
[07:46] <stdin> sredna2: don't see why not
[07:47] <wargoth> vicks: man usplash )))
[07:50] <alexander_> how do i install firefox on egdy+
[07:50] <alexander_> ?
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> alexander_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:51] <alexander_> thanks
[07:51] <Dr_willis> amazing :)
[07:51] <stdin> alexander_: or from Adept or Add/Remove Programs
[07:52] <alexander_> ok
[07:53] <alexander_> has any one her tested beryl?
[07:55] <alexander_> i can't find my wireless broadband card!
[07:56] <wargoth> did anyone used kexi?
[07:56] <wargoth> is it good for mysql?
[07:57] <sredna2> wargoth: i didn't try with a RDBMS backend, but i have to say i find kexi a alpha state application
[07:57] <sredna2> it kinda works
[07:58] <sredna2> wargoth: but i can't see why it shouldn't do what it can as well with mysql as it does it with other DBMS
[07:59] <wargoth> sredna2: i'm currently using MySQL Query Browser, but there is an old version at reposytories
[07:59] <sredna2> more than 300000 files :-o
[07:59] <wargoth> sredna2: and it's GTK based
[08:00] <sredna2> wargoth: there are some quite good kde apps for mysql, though i don't know how active they are
[08:00] <raylu> alexander_, yes
[08:00] <wargoth> sredna2: advise some
[08:00] <sredna2> wargoth: kexi is something else, it adds it's own features to whatever DBMS it uses
[08:01] <alexander_> raylu: do you know how it works with a ATI craphic card?
[08:01] <raylu> alexander_, no, sorry
[08:01] <raylu> I have an intel
[08:01] <sredna2> Kmysqladmin
[08:01] <sredna2> knoda
[08:02] <alexander_> ok
[08:02] <sredna2> wargoth: http://www.kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=212
[08:02] <wargoth> sredna2: ok. thanx a lot!
[08:03] <sredna2> nearing 400 000 files, and still counting
[08:03] <Mr_Sonoma> what usenet reader would yall recomend? Knode wont download using the update its grayed out and i didnt see it anywhere in the k menu
[08:04] <Mr_Sonoma> fresh install of the system
[08:04] <hatta> Mr_Sonoma, pan is very nice
[08:04] <Mr_Sonoma> ok thanks
[08:04] <sredna2> http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=233 <- Mr_Sonoma
[08:06] <jorge_> ola??
[08:09] <tsdgeos> !es
[08:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:10] <alexander_> #kubunt-no
[08:11] <angasule> !TVtuner
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <angasule> I may be getting an ENLTV-FM TV Tuner card from Encore, I'd like to be sure it'll be supported, though
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !mythtv
[08:13] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> angasule: that like is probably what you want
[08:13] <Gizmo48> Is there an EASY way to backup my Kubuntu install so that in the event of a catastrophic failure, I can pop in a disk and it all comes back?
[08:13] <Gizmo48> I.E. Something like what Acronis Truimage does for windows, or Ghost, where you can create a bootable recovery disk with the image right onn it.
[08:14] <angasule> Admiral_Chicago: well, I was wondering if there are drivers for it, actually
[08:14] <eilker> how can i know xorg version ?
[08:14] <eilker> my xorg version
[08:14] <chavo> eilker, X -version
[08:15] <sredna2> eilker: apt-get show xorg
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i really have no ihdea angasule, i don't mess with that really
[08:15] <eilker> thanx
[08:16] <eilker> someone told me,  eilker you seem to have compiled the kernel and the xorg driver with different versions of gcc
[08:16] <eilker> how can i solve this ?
[08:17] <sredna2> compile with the same gcc version, or if you use packages, take them from the same source
[08:17] <sredna2> man, svn keeps many files
[08:17] <jim> I think Acronis works with Linux, boot from the recover cd.
[08:18] <eilker> 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810, this may conflict ?
[08:19] <sparrw> how hard is it to set up a kubuntu package repository mirror?
[08:20] <Hirvinen> sparrw: Easy. http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p2
[08:22] <eilker> kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 , this may conflict ? i cant get login screen, (EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available. // but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment
[08:23] <eilker> any idea pls ?
[08:24] <wargoth> angasule: tv tuner?
[08:24] <angasule> wargoth: yes
[08:24] <angasule> wargoth: a PCI card that lets one watch TV on a computer
[08:26] <sparrw> 1017 upgraded, 79 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:26] <sparrw> hooray dist-upgrade day!
[08:26] <wargoth> angasule: yes, I've spent a lot of time to configure one
[08:27] <angasule> wargoth: cool, any idea where I can find if the ENLTV-FM is supported?
[08:27] <sredna2> what is the package containing the
[08:27] <sredna2> simple system watch applet for kicker?
[08:27] <matt____> Hi, I am trying to install wine and it says I am running this from the wrong directory, change to the winde source's main directory and try again
[08:27] <matt____> wine sources*
[08:28] <wargoth> angasule: what does kernel say when you plug tv-tuner in?
[08:28] <angasule> wargoth: I don't have the card yet, I'm deciding whether to buy it or not
[08:29] <acidoascorbico> holaa
[08:29] <acidoascorbico> tengo un problemilla... alguien sabe como se llama el pakete que al pusar alt+f2 sale la pantalla el ejecutar programa de gnome?
[08:30] <angasule> !es
[08:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:30] <wargoth> angasule: wait a minute
[08:32] <wargoth> angasule: I've got a tv-tuner based on saa7134 chipset
[08:33] <angasule> wargoth: that's the same chipset, I think?
[08:33] <wargoth> angasule: you should check out their of. web site and check it
[08:33] <eilker> will mesa work instead of i810 ?
[08:34] <eilker> !mesa
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <wargoth> angasule: when you plug in your tv-tuner dmesg says what is it.
[08:35] <angasule> wargoth: but I won't have it until I buy it, at which point it would be too late :)
[08:35] <NightBird> kde's screen saver is turned off, but it appears that the xserver might have a screensaver that pops up... how would I disable that?
[08:35] <wargoth> angasule: the most of cheepy tv-tuners have it.
[08:40] <wargoth> ubuntu in russian: #kubuntu-ru
[08:41] <eilker> apt-extracttemplates unsuccessful ??? what is this ?
[08:48] <BluesKaj> !tv
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <ahlalo_elyon> Could someone please help me get DVD playback working?  I've install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss (whatever)... but when trying to use gxine or Totem, it just gives an error that it couldn't open it.
[08:48] <BluesKaj> !tuner
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <adydas> how can i find out if my printer is supported by CUPS
[08:49] <adydas> !cups
[08:49] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:49] <LjL> BluesKaj: linuxtv.org
[08:49] <BluesKaj> ahlalo_elyon, have you tried kaffiene ?
[08:50] <ahlalo_elyon> BluesKaj: Not yet, no.
[08:50] <ahlalo_elyon> ...trying that now.
[08:50] <kevin> Hello, im doing make oldconfig with kernel 2.6.20.1, I have a couple of questions, anyone up for it?
[08:50] <wargoth> BluesKaj: tv-tuner?
[08:51] <toc> coooolll
[08:51] <sredna2> kevin: ##linux ;)
[08:51] <kevin> thanks
[08:51] <ahlalo_elyon> BluesKaj: Kaffeine says "The source can't be read."
[08:51] <ahlalo_elyon> Mentions permissions
[08:52] <maddog39> omg konqueror sux....
[08:52] <raylu> lol?
[08:52] <ahlalo_elyon> maddog39: Duh lol
[08:52] <raylu> ahlalo_elyon, how is it mounted?
[08:52] <maddog39> lol
[08:52] <ahlalo_elyon> raylu: It automounts when I put the DVD in.
[08:52] <ahlalo_elyon> raylu: Let me check my fstab and I'll let you know
[08:52] <maddog39> everytime i try to view web pages it takes like 5 minutes to DL all the images
[08:52] <maddog39> so pathetic
[08:52] <maddog39> im on 5Mbit cable
[08:53] <raylu> ahlalo_elyon, i meant what do you get when you look at the permissions of the mounted folder?
[08:53] <raylu> maddog39, doesn't it have a pipelining option?
[08:53] <yurimxpxman> hey, what's the X11 alternative to Alt+Numlock for ASCII codes in Windows?
[08:53] <ahlalo_elyon> raylu: /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:53] <ahlalo_elyon> oh...one sec
[08:53] <maddog39> already tried that with my last kubuntu isntall
[08:53] <maddog39> it broke all internet
[08:53] <maddog39> it completely broke the internet config in KDE
[08:53] <ahlalo_elyon> raylu: Everything is marked as "Can read content"
[08:54] <raylu> hm...I don't know then. I've never actually tried playing a DVD before and I hear that it's somewhat difficult
[08:54] <maddog39> dvd's are a pain
[08:54] <yurimxpxman> maddog39: Just use VLC
[08:54] <ahlalo_elyon> hmm... the first time I had installed Ubuntu it worked great...
[08:55] <maddog39> u need to add a 3rd party repo, and then get libdvdcss and libreadcss i think
[08:55] <maddog39> or no, libdvdread
[08:55] <maddog39> something lyk that
[08:55] <maddog39> i normally use GNOME, and DVDs work fine now
[08:55] <ahlalo_elyon> maddog39: I have both of those installed already.
[08:55] <maddog39> and mplayer doesnt work?
[08:55] <maddog39> or vlc player
[08:55] <ataq> hey, how do I install KDM themes?
[08:56] <ahlalo_elyon> maddog39: Mplayer, Totem, Gxine... don't work.  I'm installing VLC now... but I hate that I'm required to have 4 or 5 different video players installed.
[08:56] <raylu> ataq, have you tried Beryl? :P
[08:56] <yurimxpxman> ahlalo_elyon: VLC will do everything.. you don't really need anything else
[08:56] <maddog39> i had issues with your first 4 listing as well
[08:56] <ahlalo_elyon> hmm... so vlc works.
[08:56] <ahlalo_elyon> Grr
[08:56] <maddog39> but VLC worked
[08:56] <maddog39> for me
[08:56] <yurimxpxman> hey, what's the X11 alternative to Alt+Numpad for ASCII codes in Windows?
[08:56] <raylu> That was fast
[08:57] <ataq> raylu, nope. I am used to gnome, any easier way to install rather than installing beryl?
[08:57] <yurimxpxman> ataq: To install what?
[08:57] <raylu> ataq, oh, I was just wondering if you had tried it
[08:57] <raylu> he wants kdm themes
[08:57] <ataq> I want to install a KDE, KDM login theme
[08:57] <ahlalo_elyon> man, I love beryl
[08:57] <maddog39> if u want nice effects that dont require 3D, get Xfce and add Option "Composite" "Enable" to your xorg.conf and enable the compositor in settings
[08:58] <maddog39> in WM settings
[08:58] <ahlalo_elyon> ataq: Yeah, I'd like to know that too... VERY easy with gnome, but KDE doesn't seem to have a native app for it.
[08:58] <yurimxpxman> can anyone help me out here? I need to know how to type ASCII codes for special characters in Xorg.
[08:58] <ataq> ahlao_elyon: ya very true. I prefer gnome, but I just wanna try out KDE.
[08:58] <maddog39> is it possible to replace KWin with Xfwm4 in KDE?
[08:59] <LjL> yurimxpxman: i don't think there's a way that's generic to Xorg. i know there's a way in GNOME, but i've never found out a way in KDE. you can always use kcharselect, i suppose
[08:59] <yurimxpxman> LjL: I use GNOME
[08:59] <maddog39> gnome pwnz i must say..
[08:59] <maddog39> nvr been  happy w/ kde
[08:59] <maddog39> but using it now
[08:59] <yurimxpxman> KDE takes some getting used to
[08:59] <maddog39> i do however sort of like Qt
[08:59] <apecat> where can i find (and delete) the config file for the kde panel multiple desktop selection tool? tha panel dies everytime i try to add the applet in question
[08:59] <maddog39> it does indeed
[08:59] <ataq> maddog, me too, I think i will be uninstalling KDE fairly soon!
[08:59] <yurimxpxman> I don't like QT.. that's one of the reasons I don't use KDE often
[09:00] <LjL> yurimxpxman: then it's a simple keyboard combination, let me see if i can find it in my logs... perhaps you could ask in #ubuntu meanwhile
[09:00] <maddog39> i dual boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[09:00] <maddog39> so i get the luxary of both :D
[09:00] <sredna2> apecat: applet named ... ?
[09:00] <yurimxpxman> LjL: Thanks. #ubuntu isn't helping tho.. :(
[09:00] <ataq> why not just install both gnome and kde?
[09:00] <AMSmith42> All I have is a Rage128 Pro, or I'd install Beryl.
[09:00] <yurimxpxman> ataq: That's what I do. I have AfterStep installed, too
[09:00] <raylu> no, maddog39, you get the luxury of one and the inconvenience of both :P
[09:00] <maddog39> LOL
[09:00] <maddog39> true
[09:00] <maddog39> very true
[09:01] <apecat> sredna2: im the list of applets it is referred to as "Desktop Preview & Pager"
[09:01] <maddog39> i will prolly switch to Kubuntu Feisty when it comes out with final version
[09:01] <maddog39> cuz itsw theme is SICK!
[09:01] <yurimxpxman> hmm.. I oughta take a look at it then and see what it looks like
[09:01] <maddog39> right now, i use a custom compile of Xfce on Ubuntu
[09:01] <ataq> I will probably fly back to slax!
[09:01] <raylu> apecat, you mean the 4 boxes thing?
[09:01] <LjL> yurimxpxman: try rightalt+ctrl+numbers
[09:01] <raylu> slax the livecd?
[09:01] <apecat> raylu: yeah, i guess
[09:02] <ataq> na, slackware!
[09:02] <raylu> apecat, I don't get what you want to do with it
[09:02] <yurimxpxman> LjL: That doesn't work =(
[09:02] <maddog39> im really against KDE now for what linus torvalds did to gnome
[09:02] <maddog39> not right at all
[09:03] <apecat> raylu: i want to delete/reset the config file for it. the applet goes haywire and kills the whole panel every time i try to start it
[09:03] <maddog39> even KDE users feel for the GNOME developers
[09:03] <krush_> me not
[09:03] <ataq> Linus had no right to say that. he is only the kernel grease monkey!
[09:03] <maddog39> yes, i agree
[09:03] <maddog39> very in mature of him really
[09:03] <LjL> yurimxpxman: try rightalt+shift+u, followed (or together with, not sure) the number
[09:04] <ataq> it was cheeky of him.
[09:04] <maddog39> long live GNOME!!!
[09:04] <raylu> apecat, hm...sorry, don't know what that is.
[09:04] <apecat> hmm
[09:04] <ataq> what is Linus's big deal with KDE anyways?
[09:04] <raylu> *where
[09:05] <pawel_> its from poland ???
[09:05] <maddog39> he is a fan of KDE, so he seems to think he can harass the GNOME developers about it
[09:05] <maddog39> and as a result, the gnome developers basically told him to screw off
[09:05] <LjL> yurimxpxman: and maybe even ctrl+shift+numbers
[09:05] <wargoth> KDE foreva!
[09:05] <maddog39> by not accepting his patches
[09:06] <ataq> I hate the way people just think that he is the GNU/Linux god, when he only contributes/maintains the kernel
[09:06] <yurimxpxman> LjL: It's CTRL+Shift+U (release) + numbers
[09:06] <yurimxpxman> thanks for the help =)
[09:06] <maddog39> he invented the kernel..
[09:06] <maddog39> the linux kernel*
[09:06] <LjL> nice
[09:06] <ataq> I know that.... based on minixz
[09:06] <ataq> minix
[09:06] <maddog39> thats why hes looked at as a god
[09:06] <wargoth> linus is great man and he can say anything just like we do!
[09:06] <maddog39> i have minix 3 installed btw
[09:06] <LjL> don't you guys think you're slightly offtopic?
[09:06] <sredna2> hm, is there something i need to do to enable utf8 filenames, other than using a utf8 locale?
[09:07] <ataq> well I mean there is GNU and there are many kernels that can power it like
[09:07] <chavo> offtopic and offclued
[09:07] <maddog39> they say Xorg works in Minix, but its a huge pain'
[09:07] <yurimxpxman> hmm.. I do have one major problem with the keycodes. I can't get the spanish e from 130 or 138
[09:07] <maddog39> english keycodes r better anywayz
[09:07] <maddog39> lool
[09:07] <ataq> I am trying MFS at the moment. Its quiet hard. but really educational
[09:08] <LjL> yurimxpxman, perhaps it wants hexadecimal?
[09:08] <maddog39> MFS?
[09:08] <yurimxpxman> maddog39: I mean the e with the carat above it
[09:08] <LjL> yurimxpxman: "" is 00E9 in unicode hex
[09:08] <ataq> Minix From Scratch. Similar to Linux From Scratch
[09:08] <mpecorelli> #kubuntu-es
[09:08] <maddog39> yuri: oh u *could* use the character map
[09:08] <maddog39> ataq: oh thats wat i thought
[09:09] <ataq> maddog39: its pretty kool
[09:09] <yurimxpxman> LJL: thanks man, that works! =)
[09:09] <maddog39> im making my OS atm
[09:09] <ataq> talking kde style now
[09:09] <maddog39> my own*
[09:09] <ataq> Ya, Linux based?
[09:09] <maddog39> from scratch
[09:09] <maddog39> nope
[09:09] <maddog39> from scratch
[09:09] <ataq> what kernel
[09:09] <maddog39> making my own kernel
[09:09] <maddog39> and everything
[09:09] <ataq> good luck with that
[09:09] <maddog39> lol thx
[09:09] <maddog39> ive already started
[09:09] <maddog39> and have alot completed
[09:09] <maddog39> it even boots
[09:09] <yurimxpxman> I'm heading out now to finish the article I'm working on (which had to use that character LOL). Thanks guys! :)
[09:09] <ataq> Need a hand?
[09:10] <maddog39> yea
[09:10] <maddog39> i do
[09:10] <maddog39> lol
[09:10] <ataq> I can help
[09:10] <maddog39> http://code.google.com/p/freeloaderos
[09:10] <maddog39> SVN repositor is up and code is all there
[09:10] <maddog39> check the "Source" tab
[09:11] <ataq> pretty cool, by the way, upcoming gui. how do you intend implementing that?
[09:11] <maddog39> VGA Vesa driver
[09:11] <ataq> BSD License owns GPl!
[09:11] <maddog39> and a simple window manager
[09:11] <ataq> making the WM or using an existing?
[09:11] <maddog39> making one
[09:11] <maddog39> cuz my OS isnt POSIX compliant
[09:12] <ataq> Nice, pretty cool project. I will definitly be watching that
[09:12] <maddog39> :D
[09:12] <animesh> hello channel!
[09:12] <animesh> i m a newbie
[09:12] <maddog39> it does boot, the OS, but does basically nothing
[09:12] <Mushindo> algun espao
[09:12] <maddog39> just some test scripts
[09:12] <animesh> could someone plz tell me how to configure beryl on kubuntu
[09:12] <raylu> !es | Mushindo
[09:12] <ubotu> Mushindo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:12] <raylu> animesh, what doens't work?
[09:13] <animesh> hey raylu
[09:13] <maddog39> !de
[09:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:13] <Mushindo> thz
[09:13] <ataq> there is no download links
[09:13] <animesh> i have problem configuring beryl
[09:13] <ataq> or source
[09:13] <maddog39> yes there is source
[09:13] <raylu> ataq, oh, you mean install? You said configure
[09:13] <maddog39> under the Source tab
[09:13] <ataq> raylu: on bout?
[09:13] <raylu> huh?
[09:13] <animesh> i have installed it and written the startxgl script
[09:13] <ataq> oh right lol
[09:13] <raylu> oh, im confusing the two of you =\
[09:14] <raylu> i was talking to animesh and you said something about download =\ lol
[09:14] <maddog39> lol
[09:14] <maddog39> yes
[09:14] <maddog39> ..
[09:14] <maddog39> :P
[09:14] <ataq> haha
[09:14] <animesh> no problem
[09:14] <animesh> could u help me on that?
[09:14] <maddog39> who is talking to who lol
[09:14] <raylu> so, animesh, what doesn't work?
[09:14] <animesh> beryl
[09:14] <kevin> hello, I need to know if I need  IPC namespaces N/y in my new kernel, im doing make oldconfig
[09:14] <raylu> er, no, what doens't work in beryl?
[09:15] <animesh> ok so here r details
[09:15] <frojnd> does anyone know where are saved logs for kopete (msn)
[09:15] <maddog39> umm why do u need IPC namespaces again?
[09:15] <animesh> i have written the startxgl script and also made a new session available
[09:15] <animesh> that is xgl
[09:15] <animesh> when i login to the xgl session, i see a blank screen
[09:15] <animesh> that's it
[09:15] <kevin> maddog 329 im doing make oldconfig
[09:15] <maddog39> oh, hmm ill have to think
[09:15] <kevin> ok
[09:15] <animesh> i again have to restart X (ctr alt bkspace)
[09:16] <animesh> any thoughts?
[09:16] <ubuntu__> I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu on my external 250GB hard drive. I get the error "The ext 3 file system creation in partion #3 of scs13 (0,0,0) sdb failed"
[09:16] <ubuntu__> Can anyone help?
[09:16] <animesh> raylu, u there?
[09:17] <|Cugel|> ubuntu: well is partition #3 large enough?
[09:17] <raylu> lol, sorry animesh, I don't know
[09:17] <ubuntu__> Its a brand new hard drive
[09:17] <ubuntu__> right out of the box
[09:17] <animesh> no problem
[09:18] <raylu> frojnd, ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[09:18] <AMSmith42> Is there such thing as an intranet instant messenger?
[09:19] <raylu> AMSmith42, yahoo and msn both have corporate versions, I believe
[09:19] <niles> corporeate versions of what
[09:19] <raylu> of their IM programs
[09:19] <tijn_> AMSmith42: you can search sourceforge, but you can use an internet IM for your intranet, depends on your server config
[09:19] <crdlb> AMSmith42, many organizations use jabber internally
[09:19] <AMSmith42> Thank you, all.
[09:20] <LycanNyc-work> anyone can help me with amarok and getting my ipod writeable
[09:20] <roro_> hi there
[09:20] <raylu> !hi
[09:20] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:21] <ubuntu__> |Cugel: does that help at all?
[09:22] <roro_> i recently installed kubuntu on my new laptop and i realized it was a amd64 cdrom (my laptop is a centrino)
[09:22] <roro_> my question is : why is it work ?
[09:23] <frojnd> raylu: why there aren't all conversations saved, where can I change this so every conversation will be loged
[09:23] <roro_> nobody knows ?
[09:24] <raylu> frojnd, I think it's in the history plugin, but I couldn't find it in there
[09:24] <raylu> roro_, perhaps your centrino is 64bit o.0
[09:24] <roro_> no it doesn't :)
[09:24] <raylu> I don't even know if that setup exists/is possible, though
[09:24] <roro_> mistery...
[09:25] <raylu> then...perhaps it installed the 32 version
[09:25] <binks_> hmm hello people
[09:25] <roro_> the kernel is a amd64... at least
[09:25] <raylu> !hi
[09:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:26] <raylu> roro_, i'm talking to my friend and we're both rather confused, actually
[09:26] <raylu> does your computer say centrino on it? and are you sure you downloaded the amd64?
[09:26] <binks_> .
[09:26] <binks_> ok i never used kopete b4 is this working ok
[09:26] <roro_> raylu: yes sure... it's a old dapper live cd
[09:27] <roro_>  2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:27] <raylu> o.0ness
[09:27] <raylu> hm...either way, you deserve a big jar of cookies for this one :D
[09:28] <roro_> my conception of the world is broken...
[09:28] <raylu> i still think somehow the cd is capable of installing the 32 version
[09:28] <roro_> i don't understand
[09:28] <roro_> maybe...
[09:30] <roro_> where are the differences in configuration files between x86 and amd64 ?
[09:35] <loris> scusatemi ma come si chiama il programma per scaricare mp3 tramite linux
[09:36] <stdin> !it | loris
[09:36] <ubotu> loris: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:36] <lordmaynoth_> hello
[09:36] <lordmaynoth_> sorry to bother you guys again
[09:36] <jmp__> Hallo
[09:36] <lordmaynoth_> I am trying to run a command and am getting an error that autoconf is not found... even though I installed it
[09:36] <raylu> !hi
[09:36] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:37] <jmp__> Hello!
[09:37] <raylu> lordmaynoth_, which autoconf
[09:37] <lordmaynoth_> it says I have 2.60 in synaptic
[09:37] <raylu> er, no
[09:37] <raylu> "which autoconf"
[09:37] <raylu> run that command
[09:37] <jmp__> (sorry for my bad english ^^) How can I set write Permissions to an Directory in Kubuntu?
[09:38] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: I normally find that removing all versions of autoconf, then only installing the one the message says, or higher version, fix that
[09:38] <raylu> chmod +w dir
[09:38] <jmp__> thx
[09:38] <lordmaynoth_> make -f admin/Makefile.common
[09:38] <lordmaynoth_> I tried that
[09:38] <lordmaynoth_> but I will again
[09:39] <jmp__> it doesn't work :(
[09:39] <jmp__> chmod +w dir
[09:40] <jmp__> of course i took [my dir] , not dir :)
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> I am really having fun learning the command line is that G33K?
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> G33KY?
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[09:40] <stdin> jmp__: was it a permission denied error?
[09:40] <jmp__> yes
[09:40] <jmp__> I try to install a Game
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> haha
[09:40] <|Cugel|> lord: it's like DOS, but better.
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> exactly!
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[09:40] <lordmaynoth_> I like the cal command
[09:40] <stdin> jmp__: use sudo, like: sudo chmod +w dir
[09:40] <jmp__> i did
[09:40] <|Cugel|> Yeah, cal is great. And that calculator is excellent as well.
[09:41] <jmp__> but it still didn't work
[09:41] <stdin> jmp__: what was the error then?
[09:41] <lordmaynoth_> there is a command line calculator?
[09:41] <|Cugel|> lord: bc
[09:41] <|Cugel|> bc is immensely powerful. Try things like 221! etc.
[09:41] <jmp__> if I try to install the Game ther is  an Error "No write permission [dir] "
[09:41] <jmp__> *there
[09:41] <lordmaynoth_> ooh coooool
[09:42] <lordmaynoth_> lol
[09:42] <lordmaynoth_> I want to be able to run in only the CLI
[09:42] <stdin> jmp__: how are you installing the game?
[09:42] <lordmaynoth_> can you run console apps like xmms and firefox
[09:42] <lordmaynoth_> via commandline only?
[09:42] <|Cugel|> lord: well yeah, but they will open an X window.
[09:42] <jmp__> with a .run file ( i set +x permission for this file)
[09:42] <|Cugel|> so you just type firefox (or firefox-bin) and firefox will start.
[09:43] <|Cugel|> There are command line browsers and mp3 players, of course.
[09:43] <lordmaynoth_> thats cool
[09:43] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: mplayer is a good command line media player, and elinks is a command line web browser, so you can use those in command line only mode
[09:44] <stdin> jmp__: that won't work, try running the installer with sudo: sudo game.run
[09:44] <jmp__> oh
[09:44] <jmp__> ok
[09:44] <jmp__> i will try
[09:44] <lordmaynoth_> :c
[09:45] <lordmaynoth_> I reinstalled autoconf 2.6
[09:45] <jmp__> "command not found"
[09:45] <jmp__> hm
[09:45] <lordmaynoth_> ./admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found*** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[09:45] <raylu> lordmaynoth_, have you tried "which autoconf" yet?
[09:45] <stdin> jmp__: did you change "game.run" to the right file name?
[09:46] <lordmaynoth_> /usr/bin/autoconf
[09:46] <raylu> I don't think jmp__ used ./
[09:46] <jmp__> oh you are right^^
[09:46] <jmp__> it works ;)
[09:46] <jmp__> YES
[09:46] <lordmaynoth_> chavo,  hey... thanks for all the help yesterday
[09:46] <lordmaynoth_> I got it working...
[09:46] <|Cugel|> Another satisfied customer.
[09:46] <jmp__> Thank you very much for your Help!!!
[09:47] <chavo> anytime
[09:47] <lordmaynoth_> im having a weird issue today though
[09:47] <lordmaynoth_> the devs told me to run this command
[09:47] <lordmaynoth_> make -f admin/Makefile.common
[09:47] <lordmaynoth_> before ./compile
[09:47] <jmp__> thank u & bye
[09:47] <lordmaynoth_> and it says autoconf is not installed even though it is
[09:48] <chavo> lordmaynoth_, what are you trying to compile?
[09:49] <lordmaynoth_> ktorrent.  I got it compiled and working but the devs suggested I do the "make -f admin/Makefile.common"
[09:50] <lordmaynoth_> to fix a bug
[09:50] <SlimG> I'm trying to replace a string in kate with 'newline', \n doesn't work, what characters equals 'newline' ?
[09:50] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: did you get the source from cvs, or from a download ?
[09:50] <raylu> SlimG, did you turn regular expression on?
[09:50] <lordmaynoth_> from tar
[09:50] <raylu> nevermind
[09:51] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: got the url?
[09:51] <chavo> lordmaynoth_, hmm that command works here, in the ktorrent-2.1.1 directory
[09:51] <lordmaynoth_> yes I am in that dir
[09:51] <SlimG> raylu: yes
[09:51] <lordmaynoth_> http://ktorrent.org/downloads/2.1.1/ktorrent-2.1.1.tar.gz
[09:52] <SlimG> seems like regexp only parses the search string
[09:52] <SlimG> not the replace string
[09:52] <|Cugel|> slim: well that makes sense.
[09:54] <SlimG> I guess, but still I cant figure out howto replace a search-string with 'newline' in kate
[09:54] <|Cugel|> slim: so s/mysearch/mysearch\\n/ doesn't work?
[09:57] <niles> hi
[09:57] <niles> i dont want to program in java.  i just want to run some java programs such as Limewire.
[09:57] <niles> what package am i looking for?
[09:58] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: have you installed all the packages you need, like build-essential automake autoconf and kde-devel ?
[09:58] <|Cugel|> niles: so you install Sun Java JRE
[09:58] <spitwise_> i would suggest nicotine instead of limewire
[09:58] <niles> ahh jre
[09:58] <niles> thanx pal
[09:58] <lordmaynoth_> I will right now
[09:58] <lordmaynoth_> thanks
[09:58] <|Cugel|> Not SDK -- that's the developer's kit.
[09:58] <|Cugel|> You just want the runtime engine.
[09:58] <niles> yes correct. thanx
[09:58] <raylu> um...installing sun jre with adet
[09:58] <|Cugel|> JRE = Java Runtime Engine.  Okay.
[09:58] <raylu> *adept doesn't work
[09:58] <lordmaynoth_> niles I run shareaza 2.2.5.0
[09:58] <lordmaynoth_> via wine
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> it is much faster for me than limewire
[09:59] <niles> whats shareaza ?
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> when tweaked
[09:59] <niles> oh a p2p app
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> www.shareaza.com
[09:59] <niles> i dont know wine
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> wine the windows compatibility layer
[09:59] <niles> i suppose i should learn wine
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> lets u run some windows program
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[09:59] <lordmaynoth_> I run utorrent, emule, shareaza all perfectly
[10:00] <raylu> its usually better to find a native linux app than to wine it
[10:00] <niles> yes im going to have to learn wine soon to run my cisco network simulator
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> wine 0.9.32 is great
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> wine is easy
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[10:00] <raylu> but yeah, wine did work better than i expected it to
[10:00] <|Cugel|> well, even typing 'wine notepad' works.
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> its getting better all the time
[10:00] <niles> lordmaynoth_: do you find wine userfriendly,  or is there a bit of tweaking involved?
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> you can play world of warcraft perfectly
[10:00] <matt____> my kubuntu doesnt see my cdrom but the rom shows up in bios
[10:00] <lordmaynoth_> to me it was very user friendly
[10:01] <niles> cool
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> more so than most things
[10:01] <hatta> man I've never had wine work well for anything
[10:01] <raylu> sometimes there's some tweaking. for steam/cs1.6,cs1.5, and wc3, there was none
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> www.winehq.com
[10:01] <hatta> always bugs me about my fake windows
[10:01] <niles> can wine be a substitute for cedega ?
[10:01] <raylu> though war3 had other issues with my card/linux
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> they have instructions for installing on ubuntu
[10:01] <|Cugel|> niles: yes, in the end.
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> the repo is up2date
[10:01] <hatta> configuring wine is such a huge pain
[10:01] <hatta> esp if you don't have a real windows installation
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> I don't run windows on this machine
[10:01] <lordmaynoth_> I found it easy for my needs
[10:02] <sredna2> what is the package for the proprietary nvidia driver in kubuntu?
[10:02] <firecrotch> I love wine
[10:02] <hatta> I'm glad you did
[10:02] <slyfox> Does anyone else has a problem with Konqueror copy and paste - stops working?
[10:02] <hatta> I think wine working is a myth
[10:02] <firecrotch> Oh wait, we're talking about the program, not the beverage
[10:02] <niles> sredna2: hold on i have a link for you
[10:02] <hatta> until I see it with my own eyes
[10:02] <|Cugel|> hatta: it ain't _that_ bad. I assure you.
[10:03] <hatta> I've been there
[10:03] <sredna2> 52% and running... it absolutely works
[10:03] <niles> sredna2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:03] <niles> sredna2: then dont forget to sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:03] <sredna2> thank you, niles
[10:03] <hatta> I couldn't possibly convey to you the time and effort I've spent trying to get gta3 to run under wine
[10:03] <SlimG> |Cugel| & raylu: The Kate FAQ says the app lacks the ability to both find and replace newlines, thanks for the help anyways guys!
[10:04] <uli> hello all
[10:04] <hatta> I probably spent more time trying to get to run under wine than it took to actually finish the game in windows
[10:04] <|Cugel|> slim: I suggest you use a better editor then. And so will I!
[10:04] <|Cugel|> hatta: well I admit that anything more complex than Minesweeper is basically a pain to get running.
[10:05] <slyfox> Can someone help me out with the dilema of Kontact vs Gmail and Google Calendar ?
[10:05] <sredna2> ah
[10:05] <hatta> right
[10:05] <hatta> wine only works in trivial cases
[10:06] <hatta> in other cases, one guy somewhere with a couple months off and a CS PhD got it to start, then they call it wine compatible
[10:06] <|Cugel|> hatta: all too true.
[10:06] <|Cugel|> Luckily, I'm that guy!
[10:06] <|Cugel|> (not)
[10:10] <impulse29> How can I check what version of kubuntu is installed? Is there a terminal command?
[10:11] <chavo> impulse29, lsb_release -a
[10:11] <impulse29> thanks! :D
[10:19] <compilerwriter> Hello all.
[10:22] <AMSmith42> Hello, compilerwriter
[10:22] <compilerwriter> We seem to be a bit slow at moment.
[10:22] <lordmaynoth_> !42
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[10:23] <AMSmith42> Nice try.
[10:23] <lordmaynoth_> lol
[10:23] <lordmaynoth_> the answer to life the universe and everything...  if I only knew the damn question
[10:24] <lordmaynoth_> AMSmith42, did you know monks who meditate on universal unity and compassion raise their brainwaves to 42hz?
[10:24] <AMSmith42> That is way cool.
[10:25] <AMSmith42> How to find how much free drive space the system has?
[10:26] <lordmaynoth_> AMSmith42, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fwired%2Farchive%2F14.02%2Fdalai.html&ei=T9ztReyJCouQggTww9jSCQ&usg=__8cFqv1G8gYynv12CFVLF87iWAXY=&sig2=re3fxdNtKM-2WPdqN3W05w
[10:26] <lordmaynoth_> woh
[10:26] <lordmaynoth_> sorry
[10:26] <lordmaynoth_> www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
[10:26] <mildner> nabend
[10:28] <|Cugel|> amsmith: type du
[10:28] <|Cugel|> I mean: df
[10:29] <mildner> jemand hier?
[10:29] <|Cugel|> Ja
[10:29] <|Cugel|> !de
[10:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:30] <mildner> ich brauchte hilfe fr KRadio
[10:35] <ivan_> hi?
[10:35] <|Cugel|> hi?
[10:36] <ivan_> hi?
[10:36] <ivan_> bye :)
[10:37] <slyfox> Is there a solution to make Google Calendar work with Konqueror ? calendar.google.com  ?
[10:40] <caris_mere> Is there a way to make the KOrganizer Reminder Daemon (from Kontact) to not load when I open Kontact?
[10:40] <chavo> slyfox, change your Browser Identification to Mozilla 1.7.3 on Windows XP
[10:42] <slyfox> chavo: it is not laoding my events
[10:43] <chavo> slyfox, hmm it works here, konqueror 3.5.6
[10:43] <slyfox> chavo: I have the same
[10:43] <slyfox> chavo: I jsut get a blue field where vents are suppsoed to be
[10:43] <eilker> kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 ,this may conflict ? i cant get login screen,(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available.Fatal server error:no screens found
[10:43] <eilker> //but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment.
[10:44] <slyfox> chavo: http://www.google.com/calendar/render ?
[10:45] <chavo> slyfox, http://www.google.com/calendar/render?pli=1
[10:48] <slyfox> chavo: ok, it works now, although I have to double click to switch to week and month and other options
[10:48] <eilker> The problem is that the current version of the video driver for the Xbox doesn't support that version of X. what to do ?
[10:48] <chavo> slyfox, I get that sometimes also in gmail
[10:48] <Sanne> eilker: I had this once with my nvidia. The kernel loaded the wrong module at startup and the xserver complained with the same error. That's one of the rare occsions where a simple reboot helped ;)
[10:49] <slyfox> chavo: do you use konqueror eather then firefox and why ?
[10:50] <eilker> sanne: reboot dont help me :(
[10:50] <lordmaynoth_> I am really enjoying vlc
[10:50] <lordmaynoth_> vnc excuse me
[10:50] <Mushindo> espaol
[10:50] <lordmaynoth_> I can use my win2k box remotely
[10:50] <sdiney> is it possible to downgrade back to dapper?
[10:51] <lordmaynoth_> !es | Mushindo
[10:51] <ubotu> Mushindo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:51] <sdiney> i upgraded and rebooted and now i have no xserver it seems
[10:51] <lordmaynoth_> :c
[10:51] <lordmaynoth_> I never do upgrades
[10:51] <lordmaynoth_> ever time they have killed my system
[10:51] <Sanne> eilker: ah, that's unfortunate. I'm afraid I have no experience with your video card, sorry. Hopefully somebody else can help then.
[10:51] <sdiney> i have consoles, but can't go to #7 where x is
[10:52] <eilker> sanne: thanx
[10:52] <Sanne> eilker: you're welcome, good luck
[10:52] <sdiney> i get no errors, it just hangs after mounting the filesystems
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hey all, how can I list how many packages I have installebale
[10:53] <intelikey> are there any bug reports on foomatic database in dapper drake ?
[10:54] <intelikey> !bug
[10:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:54] <slyfox> chavo: do you use konqueror eather then firefox and why ?
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago>  !compile
[10:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:56] <chavo> slyfox, yes I use konq, it's much faster than firefox, it's totally integrated into my DE
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> grr, not what I need!
[10:56] <intelikey> !info compile
[10:56] <ubotu> Package compile does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:56] <slyfox> chavo: mail and calendar - you use kontact ?
[10:57] <SilentM> Anyone know exactly what command you'd run to shutdown/start up aRts as you do in the K control panel Sound System module?
[10:57] <chavo> slyfox, mostly gmail and google calendar
[10:58] <slyfox> chavo: Why not kmail and korganizer? I am trying to decide on the dilema between kontact and gmail and g calendar ... ?
[10:59] <chavo> slyfox, I prefer some of the features of google, for me it just works better
[10:59] <chavo> that may not be the case for everyone
[11:00] <slyfox> chavo: which specific features? It is just that kontact integrates very well in KDE
[11:00] <intelikey> Bug #39744 is back in one of the dapper updates.
[11:01] <intelikey> they must have built the update from the faulty source.
[11:03] <mrdvd> hola a todos
[11:03] <intelikey> i have the error messages if anyone wants to look.
[11:04] <chavo> slyfox, mainly I like being able to access them from anywhere and the SMS feature of google calendar
[11:04] <Krishean> ok, who do i yell at about problems
[11:05] <slyfox> chavo: kind of yes, but then there is always an offline access with kontact and for calendar also, plus you can quickly open up kontact and edit and add stuff. It is quick in google too.   For the event reminders when you are not @ the computer, have you tried remember the milk.com service ?
[11:08] <Krishean> when i go into the System Settings and try to change the window colors, every once and awhile the entire system will lock up
[11:08] <mrdvd> hay espaoles por aki?
[11:09] <compilerwriter> Here is one for us.  I currently am logged into my linux box on my XP box via xming within my home network.  Now I would like to securely be able to do this from without my home network.
[11:09] <intelikey> ATTENTION Bug #39744  foomatic database error was reintroduced into dapper updates
[11:09] <Mushindo> tela
[11:10] <Sanne> !es
[11:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:10] <makuseru> can someone tell me a way to split an avi ot mpeg into two parts that i would still be able to watch?
[11:14] <orient2000> Hi, everybody!
[11:14] <orient2000> How to find out what video card do I have on my system. I need ATI drivers for it but do not know my card.
[11:15] <DrX> hello, anyone here use Asterisk?  (I'd ask in the asterisk forum but people rarely seem to be there)
[11:15] <slyfox> chavo: kind of yes, but then there is always an offline access with kontact and for calendar also, plus you can quickly open up kontact and edit and add stuff. It is quick in google too.   For the event reminders when you are not @ the computer, have you tried remember the milk.com service ?
[11:16] <chavo> slyfox, no I haven't, but I'm not a heavy user of the calendar, so google is fine for what I need
[11:16] <ubuntu> anyone help me with my rt2570 install?
[11:16] <Sanne> orient2000: KMenu/System/KInfoCenter/PCI or from the command line "lspci -v" should list your video card.
[11:17] <slyfox> chavo: and for notes? what do you use ?
[11:18] <cpk1> call me old fashioned but I use pen and paper
[11:18] <ubuntu> Desktop$ cd rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module
[11:18] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module$ make
[11:18] <ubuntu> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:18] <ubuntu> rt2570.ko failed to build!
[11:18] <ubuntu> make: *** [module]  Error 1
[11:18] <chavo> yeah I use pen and paper or my brain
[11:18] <chavo> I live a simple life though
[11:19] <orient2000> Thank. I've got it.
[11:19] <Sanne> orient2000: you're welcome
[11:19] <hyper_ch> hiho, what can I do when apt-get / aptitude holds back packages that are marked upgradable?
[11:20] <cpk1> hyper_ch: aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:20] <orient2000> !ati
[11:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:20] <hyper_ch> cpk1: cool thx :)
[11:22] <echo> will someone help me trouble shoot a problem?
[11:23] <ahlalo_elyon> !ask | echo
[11:23] <ubotu> echo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:23] <echo> Desktop$ cd rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module
[11:23] <echo> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module$ make
[11:23] <echo> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:23] <echo> rt2570.ko failed to build!
[11:23] <echo> make: *** [module]  Error 1
[11:23] <echo> what am i missing?
[11:23] <eilker> !op
[11:24] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[11:24] <eilker> i am so sorry :)
[11:24] <echo> thought i had everything for this build
[11:24] <HymnToLife> echo, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:25] <eilker> i am edgy user, i have problem with i810 driver, what happens if i install it from feistry repo ?
[11:26] <cpk1> it probably wont work
[11:26] <HymnToLife> eilker, pretty much nothing
[11:26] <HymnToLife> as it won't install at all
[11:26] <eilker> i see
[11:27] <cpk1> no it would probably install but it would be bad
[11:28] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me where to find sources.list?
[11:28] <Metellus> /etc/apt
[11:29] <MatrixMon> How do I find etc/apt
[11:29] <MatrixMon> ?
[11:29] <eilker> Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm ? what to do ?
[11:29] <cpk1> its /etc/apt not etc/apt
[11:29] <cpk1> leading slashes make a difference
[11:30] <MatrixMon> That I know
[11:30] <Metellus> so you get there the same way you get to any folder
[11:30] <Metellus> and you can only edit sources.list as root
[11:31] <MatrixMon> I can't find the filesystem
[11:31] <cpk1> @.@
[11:32] <Metellus> then how is the computer working?
[11:32] <rada> when updating repository " Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:34] <Metellus> what command did you use to update?
[11:34] <rada> apt-get update
[11:34] <echo> grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory
[11:34] <Metellus> try sudo apt-get update
[11:34] <rada> metellus as a root
[11:35] <rada> Metellus: I ran it as a root
[11:35] <mortici> is there any reason when i put a CD in the drive, and the menu to open it pops up and i click ok to open in a new window it would give me a malformed URL error from KDE daemon?
[11:35] <sinisterguy> how do you rename contacts in kopete?
[11:37] <cpk1> sinisterguy: I think right click menu and navigate to userinfo and then change the nickname?
[11:37] <Sanne> mortici: I get this also occasionally. If the cd is already mounted, try to navigate to /media/cdrom in another window.
[11:37] <rada> Metellus: ok, it's connecting now
[11:37] <mortici> what if i don't have /media/cdrom?
[11:37] <Eagle_101> how do you open up a windowed terminal in KDE
[11:37] <unholyskorn> how do i install something as a super user?
[11:37] <Eagle_101> like xfce4-terminal
[11:37] <mortici> but i do have the /dev/cdrom;cdrw;dvd;dvdrw
[11:38] <Krishean> ok, can anyone help me with my problem? i consider it fairly severe when an entire os locks up
[11:38] <Eagle_101> what is the kde equivalent
[11:38] <unholyskorn> i do sudo su - and put in my pass, but then i cant find the file to install it
[11:38] <echo> grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory
[11:38] <cpk1> mortici: what is in your /media dir?
[11:38] <Metellus> mortici, /dev/cdrom is the computer's device file, you have to mount it somewhere else
[11:38] <Sanne> mortici: then to whereever your cdrom device is supposed to be mounted at. /etc/fstab should have the corresponding line for the cdrom drive.
[11:38] <unholyskorn> Once I login with Sudo, how do i navigate to where my file is?
[11:38] <mortici> Sanne: can you pastebin your fstab file?
[11:39] <Sanne> mortici: sure, sec
[11:39] <mortici> i did a more root level install, and i really didn't edit my fstab that much just made the general mount points for stab
[11:39] <UUbun2> thanks matt_ you are a linux master :)
[11:40] <cpk1> you are going to have different uuids/dev/*** than what he has
[11:40] <echo> grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory... got this error during "make install"
[11:40] <mortici> cpk1: thats fine i can edit it to match my system
[11:40] <mortici> i did a raid0 install
[11:40] <mortici> so i couldn't use the kubuntu installer
[11:40] <mortici> had to do everything manually
[11:41] <Sanne> mortici: here's the fstab the system generated at install. I have since edited mine heavily, so I guess this one might be more helpful for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9000/
[11:41] <Sanne> woah, I got the 9000th paste!!
[11:42] <Sanne> Admiral_Chicago: cheers :)
[11:43] <rada> when updating repository Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[11:43] <echo> grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory... got this error during "make install" ran modprobe rt270 and recieved this grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory..
[11:43] <Admiral_Chicago> afk
[11:44] <mortici> Sanne: the ls -al /media shows that the owner is all root root right?
[11:45] <echo> sorry  got this...grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory ran modprobe and got this FATAL: Error inserting rt2570 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/rt2570/rt2570.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:45] <Sanne> mortici: here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9001/
[11:46] <eilker> how can i disable ipv6 ?
[11:47] <deep> eilker:  edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist :)
[11:47] <deep> "blacklist ipv6"
[11:48] <Sanne> echo: I also don't have /etc/modprobe.conf, seems it's not used by Kubuntu? And did you run modprobe with sudo?
[11:48] <echo> yes
[11:48] <intelikey> would someone using edgy link me to the package foomatic-db-gutenprint for edgy please ?
[11:48] <eilker> deep: thanx
[11:49] <Sanne> echo: hmmm, weird. Such "not permitted" error would hint at trying to modprobe as user. Dunno then, sorry.
[11:50] <intelikey> Sanne not /etc/modprobe.conf  but  /etc/modprobe.d/*
[11:50] <Sanne> intelikey: I use Dapper, but I can find the package for edgy for you on packages.ubuntu.com. Shall I?
[11:50] <intelikey> would you?
[11:51] <intelikey> all i can find is   foomatic-db-gutenprint_5.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[11:51] <Sanne> intelikey: about modprobe was a question by echo, probably some problems with inserting a custom built module.
[11:51] <Sanne> intelikey: I help looking for your package, sec
[11:52] <intelikey> echo  error ?
[11:52] <mortici> Sanne: heres what i got it points to a diff location "i think" i made these dir's my self and the links my self :/ ----->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:52] <Sanne> mortici: wrong url ;)
[11:53] <mortici> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9003/
[11:53] <mortici> try that :P
[11:53] <mortici> nvm
[11:53] <mortici> i fixed it :P
[11:54] <Sanne> mortici: ok... looks like different output for the same thing anyway... :)
[11:54] <mortici> yeah
[11:54] <mortici> i fixed it tho it looks nicer that way :p
[11:54] <Sanne> mortici: heh :)
[11:54] <Sanne> mortici: so, can you now mount your cd? Or is it already mounted?
[11:55] <intelikey> symlinks using relative addressing are more stable than symlinks using literal addressing.   imo
[11:55] <mortici> lets try shall we :P
[11:55] <Sanne> intelikey: ah, interesting
[11:56] <intelikey> Sanne if you mount the fs under a different system all the literal links are bad...   or point to the running os.
[11:56] <VARGUX> Hi 'Brothers & Sisters'!!!
[11:56] <mortici> Sanne: well now it doesn't even try to mount, but just has alot of errors in dmesg lol
[11:56] <Sanne> intelikey: I see. A bit like relative links for HTML, also better mostly :)
[11:57] <intelikey> mostly
[11:57] <Sanne> intelikey: I find this package: foomatic-db-gutenprint (5.0.0-2ubuntu2). Would this help you if I got the download link?
[11:57] <intelikey> Sanne maybe.  i'll try it.
[11:57] <Sanne> mortici: paste them if you want, maybe somebody can make something out of it.
[11:58] <intelikey> mortici yes do paste
[11:59] <intelikey> mortici also paste your /etc/fstab   we'll see if we can't figure this out.
[11:59] <Sanne> intelikey: actually, I'll show you how to. I found it on packages.ubuntu.com. At the end of this page there's a download link, you should be able to find it. If you can't, though, just shout :) http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/text/foomatic-db-gutenprint
[11:59] <VARGUX> How i must fix this bug: 'Mounting Problems in Kubuntu Edgy after the Xserver is restarted'  (hardware error  #58552)???????????????
[11:59] <mortici> !pastebin
[11:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <mortici> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9007/
[12:01] <VARGUX> i has reinstall Kubuntu 6.06....
[12:01] <VARGUX> 'cause... my Kubuntu 6.10 don't work.... now i'm upgrading
[12:01] <slyfox> What do you people use to take notes ?
[12:01] <Sanne> mortici: can you try another cd?
[12:02] <mortici> sure can :P
[12:02] <hatta> slyfox, vim
[12:02] <mortici> Sanne: HAHA, it worked :P
[12:03] <szary> Hi. i've got question, how can i get default KDE icons (home, trash) back  on Kubuntu's KDE desktop?
[12:03] <intelikey> slyfox a text editor generally
[12:03] <lordmaynoth_> hello... does anyone here know much about Xchat?
[12:03] <VARGUX> join #kubuntu-es
[12:03] <lordmaynoth_> it opens webpages with terminal
[12:03] <mortici> szary: select the icon theme in kcontrol
[12:03] <lordmaynoth_> instead of firefox
[12:03] <Sanne> mortici: thought so. I got some of those errors also lately as I put in my new dvd burner... thought the drive was bad. For me, it seems to be a cable that wasn't tight enough. Sometimes it's just a bad media.
[12:03] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: in kubuntu?
[12:03] <slyfox> hatta: vim? waht is the link ?
[12:03] <lordmaynoth_> ubuntu
[12:04] <slyfox> intelikey: you save all your notes in .txt files ?
[12:04] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: i got a command for you
[12:04] <hatta> vim.org
[12:04] <lordmaynoth_> ^_^
[12:04] <lordmaynoth_> thanks
[12:04] <hatta> what else would you save notes in?
[12:04] <mortici> update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:04] <mortici> then select firefox
[12:04] <mortici> should be liek a number selection
[12:05] <intelikey> mortici thats not a music cd is it ?
[12:05] <hatta> text editors do a pretty good job of simulating a notebook
[12:05] <mortici> intelikey: no a library version of a ubuntu dapper cd
[12:05] <mortici> i have a burned kubuntu edgy cd i popped in and it worked
[12:05] <intelikey> slyfox i do.  what do you want?   i'm sure it's not just to see what i do...
[12:06] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:06] <mortici> then select firefox :P
[12:06] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: whoops sorry its: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:06] <intelikey> mortici yeah that looks like errors from a "non-mountable" cd media  that's why i asked.
[12:06] <mortici> yeah :P
[12:07] <mortici> i know audio cd's are not mountable :P
[12:07] <slyfox> intelikey: It is just that I use TiddlyWiki and it does not qork in konqueor :-(
[12:07] <Sanne> mortici: so it seems you did everything correctly after all :)
[12:07] <mortici> :D
[12:08] <mortici> Sanne: indeed :P
[12:08] <Sanne> :)
[12:08] <mortici> im not a nub to linux, just don't know the fs types needed for fstab :P
[12:08] <lordmaynoth_> mortici: Thanks a billion
[12:08] <lordmaynoth_> that fixed it
[12:08] <Sanne> mortici: yes, I noticed :)
[12:08] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: not a problem :P
[12:08] <intelikey> mortici for most things   'auto' is the correct type.  :)
[12:08] <kevin> hello, I am compiling my kernel and I have notices that nearly everything is loaded as a module, will this slow down my system performance at all?
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> and I saved it as a text file for when it happens again
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> heheh
[12:09] <mortici> intelikey: lol ill remember that
[12:09] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: it won't unless you change it :P
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> hehe
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> I know
[12:09] <mortici> :D
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> but this is the second time its done that
[12:09] <lordmaynoth_> LOL
[12:09] <mortici> http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7472/snapshot3hd3.png
[12:10] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: if you make some system wide change, it might reset it :P
[12:10] <kevin> hello, I am compiling my kernel and I have notices that nearly everything is loaded as a module, will this slow down my system performance at all?
[12:11] <mortici> kevin: yes and no, you have a smaller kernel to load, but the modules loaded might not be necessary for your system so they "can" degrade some performance
[12:11] <mortici> modules are better cause you can unload them when not necessary
[12:11] <mortici> and if you need a driver you can just modprobe it, no need to reboot
[12:11] <intelikey> WOW ! something is wrong here.   user  eject   worked on a nosuid system.... that's not kosher
[12:12] <Sanne> mortici: nice desktop, and also very nice hostname ;)
[12:12] <mortici> thank you :P
[12:12] <mortici> my laptop is 'Nova' :D
[12:12] <Sanne> haha
[12:12] <kevin> mortici, ok thanks any idea where i can load support for a wacom tablet in the kernel? I saw it a few months ago but now i canot find it
[12:12] <yettenet> How can I share a folder on a LAN?
[12:12] <kevin> I have a serial wacom tAblet
[12:13] <mortici> kevin: wacom tablet afaik is in the Xorg conf file, im not sure if its loaded to xorg or the kernel