| Theuni | The annoying thing is that I can't delete it via SFTP | 12:22 |
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| kiko | Theuni, can you not even rename it via SFTP? | 12:27 |
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| Theuni | kiko: nope. | 12:29 |
| Theuni | it just says "failure" | 12:29 |
| kiko | where's ddaa when we need him | 12:31 |
| kiko | Theuni, I'll check with david tomorrow morning and get back to you on this, he's probably asleep by now. | 12:31 |
| kiko | this is meant to work! | 12:31 |
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| kiko | Theuni, it's funny how often we rely on control-C; there is one operation in bzr that I control-C repeatedly and it used to leave the tree in an inconsistent state all the time | 12:32 |
| kiko | the operation is a bzr commit, btw | 12:32 |
| kiko | I never noticed how often I commit and then change my mind about the commit message mid-commit | 12:32 |
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| lifeless | file a support request for this please | 12:42 |
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| spiv | kiko: bzr uncommit is your friend. | 12:43 |
| spiv | Theuni: bzr 0.15 when it is released should be more tolerant of that situation. | 12:43 |
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| kiko | spiv, bzr commit survives control-Cs quite nicely actually | 12:47 |
| poolie | in a good way, or that it ignores them | 12:47 |
| poolie | hi kiko | 12:47 |
| kiko | hey poolie! | 12:48 |
| kiko | it aborts nicely | 12:48 |
| kiko | and rarely leaves over stale locks | 12:48 |
| kiko | tla was horrible when I did that! | 12:48 |
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| spiv | kiko-zzz: sure. But even so, bzr uncommit is still your friend :) | 12:55 |
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| jkakar | I hit C-c in the middle of pushing "trunk" for a new project (to bazaar.launchpad.net/~jkakar/approximate/trunk). Now when I try and push the same branch is fails, complaining it can't create the trunk directory, cause it's already there. | 01:01 |
| jkakar | Is there a way to remove the broken branch so I can push a new one? | 01:02 |
| kiko-zzz | jkakar, you need to join the bazaar-broken-supermirror-pushes mailing list :-) | 01:02 |
| spiv | jkakar: use bzr.dev | 01:02 |
| jkakar | Oh! | 01:02 |
| spiv | jkakar: otherwise, be patient while we work on this :) | 01:02 |
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| kiko-zzz | Theuni, as you may have noticed, this is a common problem. :-) | 01:03 |
| jkakar | spiv: Hehehe. 'k, thanks. | 01:03 |
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| jkakar | Heh. I should have read the backscroll before making noises about broken branches. :) | 01:04 |
| Theuni | kiko-zzz: hooray! | 01:05 |
| kiko-zzz | Theuni, I'm going to be printing t-shirts later | 01:05 |
| Theuni | *g | 01:05 |
| kiko-zzz | a fan club "we <3 bzr push + ^C" | 01:05 |
| kiko-zzz | etc | 01:05 |
| Theuni | hehe | 01:05 |
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| kiko-zzz | now that spiv has divulged that bzr.dev contains a fix I need to investigate | 01:06 |
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| poolie | thumper: did your change to allow switching branches from mirrored to hosted go in? | 01:25 |
| thumper | poolie: not yet | 01:25 |
| thumper | that is all part of the explicit branch type stuff | 01:25 |
| thumper | which is work in progress | 01:25 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 01:29 |
| poolie | thumper: ok | 01:30 |
| poolie | hella mpt | 01:30 |
| WebMaven | jkakar: hi | 01:38 |
| jkakar | WebMaven: Hey! | 01:44 |
| jkakar | WebMaven: Was fun to hang out with you at PyCon. :) | 01:44 |
| WebMaven | likewise. Thanks for the beer! | 01:45 |
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| radix | tsu | 04:30 |
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| Rotund | Can someone either point me to a "how to host a bazaar branch on launchpad.net" or walk me through it. | 04:49 |
| lifeless | Rotund: sure | 04:52 |
| lifeless | https://help.launchpad.net/BazaarLinks?highlight=%28bazaar%29 | 04:52 |
| Rotund | lifeless, cool. I just registered the prject | 04:52 |
| spiv | Rotund: https://code.launchpad.net/ | 04:52 |
| spiv | Rotund: that page has a brief overview | 04:53 |
| radix | Rotund: hey, good to see you checking out LP | 04:58 |
| lifeless | welcome to reep pressure | 04:59 |
| radix | :-) | 04:59 |
| Rotund | radix: N/P. I saw my pic on your blog | 04:59 |
| radix | Rotund: sorry for truncating your face. It was all for the trendy photographic style. | 04:59 |
| Rotund | And it wasn't just any monkey. It was Curious George in a space suit. | 04:59 |
| Rotund | BTW: I just registered OpenAL | 05:00 |
| radix | heh :) | 05:00 |
| radix | Rotund: woot | 05:00 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90015 in launchpad "Registrant didn't necessarily register project" [Low,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90015 | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #90019 in launchpad "LP beta: Sidebar text doesn't display properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90019 | 05:55 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90022 in launchpad "LP beta: Home popup covers up Home menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90022 | 06:06 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90028 in rosetta "Displaying 100% when 1 package still neews review" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90028 | 07:00 |
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| beuno | mpt: ping? | 08:22 |
| mpt | (beuno: In case I'm not here right now, tell me about what you want, and I'll reply when I'm available.) | 08:22 |
| beuno | mpt: I just wanted to check with you if there is any way to make a bug marked as private due to me posting a screenshot from the beta, public (deleting the attachment, changing it to the regular launchpad screenshot) | 08:24 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:44 |
| mpt | hi beuno | 08:45 |
| mpt | I was just about to comment on that very issue :-) | 08:45 |
| beuno | mpt: :D | 08:45 |
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| mpt | beuno, you can't delete attachments yet; that's bug 48771. | 08:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 48771 in malone "It should be possible to delete attachments" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48771 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) | 08:46 |
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| mpt | So for now, we (the Launchpad team) will take the penalty of having to mark any duplicates as duplicates because reporters couldn't find the private originals. | 08:47 |
| beuno | heh, got it | 08:48 |
| mpt | Since your statistics bug has probably existed for quite a while without anyone else reporting it, that shouldn't be too much of a problem in this case. | 08:48 |
| ddaa | Good morning. | 08:48 |
| ddaa | thumper: jml: hello guys, wassup? | 08:48 |
| beuno | sorry again for posting the screenshot, "launchpad" didn't feel very public to me | 08:48 |
| jml | ddaa: g'day. | 08:48 |
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| jml | ddaa: not much more today :) | 08:49 |
| mpt | beuno, what do you mean by "didn't feel very public"? | 08:49 |
| mpt | Do you mean that it didn't seem like it would be revealing great secrets? | 08:49 |
| ddaa | I guess he means that launchpad does not appear to have a lot of exposure... | 08:49 |
| ddaa | (just guessing) | 08:49 |
| beuno | mpt, no, in my mind I just didn't realize I would be exposing it to the public, but obviously anyone can access it, so I just didn't think it through | 08:50 |
| mpt | ah, right | 08:50 |
| ddaa | beuno: launcphad probably has a lot more exposure than you imagine | 08:51 |
| mpt | beuno, Launchpad is an unusual bugtracker in that Google indexes it. :-) | 08:51 |
| ddaa | actually, it has a lot more exposure than I imagined until not long ago. | 08:51 |
| mpt | (or I should say, "Launchpad's bugtracker is unusual in that...") | 08:51 |
| beuno | well, that's a fun fact to post to the next UWN ;) | 08:52 |
| ddaa | and the proximity to the ubuntu websites gives high pageranks to pretty much anything on launchpad... | 08:52 |
| beuno | yes, my launchpad user page is first when googling for name | 08:55 |
| beuno | shot right up there | 08:55 |
| mpt | Wow, #3 for me too | 08:57 |
| mpt | and #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, and #9 | 08:57 |
| mpt | which can all be blamed on Launchpad's application domains :-/ | 08:58 |
| beuno | heh, yeap yeap | 08:59 |
| ddaa | mpt: isn't it a bug that a given web page can show up on multiple domains? | 08:59 |
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| ddaa | I mean, a bug as in "will be fixed before 1.0" | 08:59 |
| mpt | ddaa, yes it's a bug (but not a 1.0-worthy one, IMO), but that's not the cause here | 08:59 |
| ddaa | not a bug as in "yeah, we know it's broken"... | 08:59 |
| mpt | The cause here is that normally there would be just two results: the most important, the second most important, and then "More results from launchpad.net" | 09:00 |
| mpt | But now there's one from launchpad.net, one from blueprints.launchpad.net, one from translations.launchpad.net, two from code.launchpad.net, one from bugs..., and one from answers... | 09:01 |
| ddaa | For me #1 is my blog, #2 is my home page on translations.launchpad.net (!!!), #3 my home page on blueprints.launchpad.net, #4 Savannah, #6 home page on bugs.launchpad.net | 09:02 |
| spiv | So the bug is that we have several "sites", which are actually the same site, so systems like google don't realise that the cloud of *.launchpad.net ought to be treated as one logical site in their results. | 09:02 |
| spiv | Hooray google-bombing :/ | 09:02 |
| ddaa | I see. | 09:02 |
| mpt | Maybe we should hire an SEO form to advise us on how to achieve lower-ranking results | 09:03 |
| mpt | SEO firm, I mean | 09:03 |
| mpt | ;-) | 09:03 |
| ddaa | Maybe we can just tell google? | 09:03 |
| ddaa | we have like good contact with those people | 09:03 |
| lifeless | so do good SEO firms :) | 09:04 |
| mpt | I don't think Google does special-casing unless legally required to | 09:05 |
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| ddaa | I heard that's a pretty good SEO firm: http://validator.w3.org/ | 09:06 |
| ddaa | mpt: I think they actually do tweak things routinely, for example lowering the pagerank of blogs | 09:06 |
| ddaa | because they are so insanely cross-linked | 09:07 |
| mpt | Perhaps, but not *individual* Weblogs | 09:07 |
| ddaa | sure | 09:07 |
| mpt | for example | 09:07 |
| beuno | Matt Cuts' blog is a good place to read about that: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog | 09:08 |
| ddaa | but I would not be surprised if they had a control panel for things precisely like *.launchpad.net | 09:08 |
| mpt | If they treat *.launchpad.net as the same site, they need to treat *.wordpress.com as the same site, when they aren't | 09:08 |
| mpt | or *.blogspot.com or *.typepad.com etc | 09:08 |
| ddaa | Gotcha | 09:08 |
| beuno | he's the "he head of the Google's Webspam team" | 09:08 |
| ddaa | Still I'd expect launchpad is not the first website to come up with that particular "good idea". | 09:08 |
| === beuno does webdev for a living, so he keeps as up to date as humanly possible | ||
| spiv | And arguably bazaar.launchpad.net, help.launchpad.net, and any other non-primary webapp domains are actually seperate sites. | 09:09 |
| ddaa | *shrug* too bad | 09:09 |
| ddaa | maybe we could actually fix that ourselves with that "google sitemap" thing? | 09:10 |
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| beuno | ddaa: I think a combination of sitemaps and robots.txt should do it | 09:11 |
| spiv | beuno: if true, that would be worth doing. | 09:11 |
| beuno | I can look into it specifically if you wish, I just need a more specific idea fo what you're trying to accomplish | 09:13 |
| ddaa | beuno: make {,blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations.}launchpad.net be considered as the same website by google | 09:15 |
| ddaa | but not {bazaar.,help.,codebrowse.}launchpad.net | 09:15 |
| ddaa | though bazaar.launchpad.net is probably not indexed (yet?) | 09:16 |
| beuno | got it, "make user-specified domains be considered as the same" | 09:16 |
| ddaa | yup | 09:16 |
| beuno | ddaa: a good place to start would be registering the site in: https://www.google.com/webmasters/ | 09:22 |
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| beuno | you can set the "preferred" domain, which won't solve this specific problem, it's a "must have" | 09:23 |
| beuno | ddaa, one option I can think of is to have the robots.txt inform google to now crawl specific subdomains, just the ones you want | 09:24 |
| beuno | that way you can choose one for "blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations", and block out the rest | 09:25 |
| ddaa | actually, all domains should be crawled | 09:25 |
| beuno | that tool also helps you with robots.txt and sitemaps | 09:25 |
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| ddaa | others should either be crawled (help.), are unindexable (bazaar.) or should be altogether blacklisted for now (codebrowse.) | 09:27 |
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| beuno | well, for starters, with robots.txt you can deny crawling for those | 09:28 |
| ddaa | oh, sure there's a bug open for this | 09:28 |
| ddaa | jamesh should fix that today :) | 09:28 |
| ddaa | but it's a completely different issue | 09:28 |
| beuno | why do you want blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations be considered as one then? | 09:28 |
| ddaa | because it's all just one website... | 09:29 |
| ddaa | actually, you can access most pages (in particular people's home pages) through all of them | 09:29 |
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| beuno | yes, that would be duplicate content, but "code.launchpad.net" is as different as "launchpad.net/code" | 09:30 |
| beuno | so either way, for pageranks sake, it's the same | 09:30 |
| spiv | They're the one "site". Whenever I'd expect google to group results all from "launchpad.net", I'd expect otherwise matching results from "blueprints.launchpad.net" to be in the same group. | 09:30 |
| ddaa | what spiv says | 09:30 |
| ddaa | the main problem his how google groups results | 09:31 |
| beuno | aaah, I see now | 09:31 |
| spiv | Because as a user, even though the url changes slightly, they're all the one "place" to me. | 09:31 |
| spiv | It just so happens that the url part changing here is the domain name rather than the path, is all :) | 09:31 |
| beuno | well, sitemaps will fix that, it will inform google it's all on the same site | 09:31 |
| spiv | That's good to know. | 09:32 |
| beuno | I've seen this specific case somewhere | 09:32 |
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| jamesh | probably the best way to fix this is to redirect users when they hit a page but are using the wrong domain | 09:33 |
| beuno | jamesh: probably, but that still won't group google results as expected | 09:34 |
| jamesh | I don't think we'll make proper use of the domains til https://foo.launchpad.net/path and https://bar.launchpad.net/path regularly give different content | 09:34 |
| ddaa | fuck me | 09:35 |
| ddaa | "From: Abkenokid@aol.com" | 09:35 |
| ddaa | "are u french ? Did you ever live in Montpellier in france ? Just | 09:36 |
| ddaa | curious .................. | 09:36 |
| ddaa | thank you for your time ." | 09:36 |
| ddaa | ?!?!?! | 09:36 |
| beuno | lol, fan mail! | 09:36 |
| beuno | (things I'm coming up with: http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/b5034e3606b95bd1/edc2ffc1fbb833fa?lnk=gst&q=subdomain&rnum=17#edc2ffc1fbb833fa ) | 09:36 |
| beuno | :( "Google treats each sub domain as a seperate site, even www.yourdomain.com and yourdomain.com are treated as seperate sites ..." | 09:39 |
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| beuno | subdomains have to be submited as different sites, they eve have to have different "sitemaps keys" | 09:41 |
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| mpt | One possible solution is (gasp! horror!) to stop using subdomains | 09:56 |
| beuno | yes, I just didn't want to be the one to put that on the table | 09:57 |
| beuno | :D | 09:57 |
| stub | You can tell google of equivalent hostnames (and I thought they detected it too?), and specify what your preferred one is in their search results. | 09:57 |
| stub | (although we break it, as https://launchpad.net/foo is not the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/foo, but https://launchpad.net/foo/+bugs is...) | 09:58 |
| stub | I bet we look like some sort of dodgy link farm :) | 09:58 |
| beuno | yes, I think considering google's crawl rates, it will, probably keep looking like different sites | 09:59 |
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| beuno | any news on the Feisty translations? | 10:21 |
| carlos | beuno: we are doing some changes to speed the process a bit | 10:26 |
| carlos | but imports are still running | 10:27 |
| beuno | ah, ok ok, for some reason I had in my head the ETA was yesterday | 10:27 |
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| carlos | beuno: well, it was the initial ETA | 10:40 |
| carlos | but the process is taking more time than planned | 10:40 |
| beuno | good good, just checking, no real hurry :D | 10:41 |
| carlos | beuno: anyway, we will announce it as soon as it's ready | 10:41 |
| beuno | thanks carlos | 10:41 |
| carlos | np | 10:41 |
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| parseK | How can i delete a bug report i made? I found another like it, and already marked it as a duplicate | 11:13 |
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| pochu | parseK: you can't, but marking as a duplicate is enough :) | 11:15 |
| parseK | ok, thanks. | 11:16 |
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| mrevell | hey schwuk | 11:35 |
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| mrevell | jelmer: morning | 11:38 |
| jelmer | hi Matthew | 11:38 |
| ddaa | hey jelmer | 11:39 |
| jelmer | hi David | 11:41 |
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| ddaa | jelmer: should i publish the import for https://beta.launchpad.net/samba/main ? | 11:52 |
| ddaa | it passed a test import over the week-end, but I'd rather not publish it if it would cause confusing with bzr-svn branches. | 11:53 |
| jelmer | ddaa: oh, that shouldn't be a problem | 11:53 |
| jelmer | someone hacked up a cronjob that imported revisions from subversion | 11:53 |
| jelmer | so we already have the confusion :-) | 11:53 |
| ddaa | ... | 11:53 |
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| ddaa | I fail to be convinced it's a good reason... but at least it will make the boss happy. | 11:54 |
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| carlos | see you later | 12:02 |
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| cprov | good morning folks | 01:00 |
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| pochu | does LP support tags with spaces, such us "command line"? | 01:08 |
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| matsubara | pochu: no, but you can use command-line instead. | 01:11 |
| pochu | matsubara: ok, ty :) | 01:11 |
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| daviey | you'll love this: <PirateHead> If you want your bug report to be useful, you need to narrow the bug down as much as possible, then report to the most relevant and specific bug tracker. | 01:42 |
| daviey | sorry, wrong quote | 01:43 |
| daviey | <<PirateHead> The reason that Launchpad sucks, in my opinion, is that it tries to be a giant bug repository, where what is needed is reporting of bugs directly to their individual bugtrackers. | 01:43 |
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| ddaa | daviey: did you mention to that guy that maybe he's entirely not getting it? | 01:44 |
| daviey | <daviey> PirateHead, decentralising *everything*? | 01:44 |
| daviey | what a plank! i had to paste it here | 01:45 |
| ddaa | might be more constructive to try telling him how his perception is faulty | 01:46 |
| daviey | it was in #ubuntu - so didn't really want to go OT | 01:48 |
| ddaa | well, I'm not on #ubuntu, but I believe it would not be offtopic, since launchpad is the ubuntu bug tracker | 01:49 |
| ddaa | actually it would be particularly relevant because his perception might be caused by a misapprehension of what is a distro bugtracker compared to an upstream bugtracker | 01:49 |
| ddaa | which is precisely where launchpad bug tracking different | 01:49 |
| daviey | well #ubuntu is the support channel, so to be fair - he shouldn't have even aired his opinion there | 01:50 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90098 in launchpad "bug watch script should not be running in serializable transaction isolation" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90098 | 02:05 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90083 in rosetta "Insert manual word breaks to force long words to wrap" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90083 | 02:36 |
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| welterde | hi | 03:22 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #90116 in launchpad "in lp.net/~user linking to OpenPGP keys is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90116 | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #90118 in launchpad "Launchpad bug emails need Precedence header" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90118 | 03:40 |
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| ddaa | welterde: wow! that was fast | 04:08 |
| ddaa | I just barely fixed up the jlink import details that you already renamed stuff around | 04:08 |
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| ddaa | welterde: the import for jlink is fixed | 04:20 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #1885 in soyuz "Check canonical_url for Soyuz" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1885 | 04:21 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #54634 in soyuz "nascentupload find_build build caching ignores arch tag" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54634 | 04:21 |
| ddaa | welterde: file a support request to ask an admin to move the trunk-err series to the obsolete-junk product | 04:21 |
| ddaa | or just ask kiko here | 04:21 |
| ddaa | kiko? | 04:21 |
| kiko | sure. | 04:21 |
| kiko | URL? | 04:21 |
| ddaa | https://beta.launchpad.net/jlink/trunk-err | 04:21 |
| kiko | done | 04:23 |
| ddaa | gotta love that level of user support | 04:24 |
| ddaa | fixing things even before people ask :) | 04:24 |
| kiko | heh | 04:24 |
| kiko | man, soyuz bug reports are a mess | 04:24 |
| ddaa | I cannot imagine. | 04:24 |
| kiko | SERIOUSLY | 04:25 |
| ddaa | I'm serious. | 04:25 |
| ddaa | I cannot imagine how soyuz feels like. | 04:26 |
| ddaa | maybe like starving fireants behind your eyeballs? | 04:26 |
| kiko | you seem to have a thing with ants lately, ddaa | 04:27 |
| ddaa | apparently | 04:27 |
| ddaa | okay... what about kittens playing behind your eyeballs? | 04:27 |
| ddaa | ya see... does not really carry the same punch... | 04:28 |
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| lamont | nah - probably get hung up in customs or something | 04:42 |
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| kdefreak | is there a way to view all the bugs in https://beta.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs at once instead of clicking on each category to see just those, and then having to go back and switch^ | 04:47 |
| statik | hmm | 04:50 |
| BjornT | kdefreak: not atm, but it will soon be possible. the first step of fixing this is bug 70628, which will allow you to use the advanced search to get all kubuntu-team's bugs. | 05:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 70628 in malone "Allow searching for a bug contact's bugs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70628 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) | 05:09 |
| kdefreak | kk, thanks | 05:09 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #52033 in launchpad-bazaar "register-branch --author without email address" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52033 | 05:15 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #90150 in launchpad "FOAF does not automatically know about LP-managed username@ubuntu.com email addresses" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90150 | 05:36 |
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| BjornT | flacoste: could you please respond to the e-mail about the reviewer meeting? | 06:03 |
| flacoste | BjornT: right, I'll do, short answer: it's fine with me | 06:04 |
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| BjornT | flacoste: cool | 06:04 |
| pochu | heya :) one little question: if I'm a member of one LP team, and I'm deactivated from that team... the points I have earned in it, are removed from my account? | 06:09 |
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| carlos | pochu: no | 06:10 |
| carlos | pochu: karma is not linked with that, but with your work done | 06:11 |
| pochu | carlos: ok, ty! | 06:11 |
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| mooey | i'm a little confused about launchpad. what is the difference between https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs and https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs ? | 06:29 |
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| salgado | mooey, they're exactly the same, since they have identical URLs | 06:32 |
| mooey | aheh | 06:33 |
| mooey | they are, yes :P i meant: | 06:33 |
| mooey | https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bugs and https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs | 06:33 |
| salgado | ah, those two ones are quite different | 06:34 |
| pochu | mooey: the first is in ubuntu and the second upstream | 06:34 |
| salgado | exactly what pochu sayd | 06:34 |
| salgado | s/sayd/said/ | 06:34 |
| mooey | so the bugs in /rhythmbox as opposed to /ubuntu are only those that were filed on launchpad and linked with gnomes bugtracker? | 06:35 |
| salgado | right | 06:37 |
| mooey | ok, that makes sense | 06:37 |
| mooey | thanks | 06:38 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #29671 in malone "Listing shows bug "unassigned" even when it's assigned" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29671 | 06:55 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #32271 in malone "Bugs that are unconfirmed and assigned show up as only unconfirmed in bug listings" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32271 | 06:55 |
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| xerosis | salgado: do bugs that get reported in ubuntu and changed to affect upstream get moved to the upstream section in launchpad, or stay in the same place? | 07:10 |
| kiko | xerosis, they are usually kept in both places | 07:10 |
| kiko | in launchpad, bugs can be present in multiple contexts | 07:11 |
| kiko | each with its own status information. | 07:11 |
| salgado | xerosis, they don't get moved, but they'll show up on the upstream bugs list as well as the distro package bugs list | 07:11 |
| xerosis | kiko: ah ok | 07:11 |
| kiko | right-o | 07:11 |
| seb128_ | kiko: hi, could you teach to launchpad that mesa upstreams uses freedesktop as bug tracker so I can open upstream tasks for bugs? | 07:13 |
| kiko | seb128_, sure. | 07:14 |
| seb128_ | thank you | 07:14 |
| kiko | seb128_, is that launchpad.net/mesa? | 07:14 |
| seb128_ | kiko: hum? | 07:15 |
| kiko | seb128_, what products are you talking about? | 07:15 |
| seb128_ | kiko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/81889 example | 07:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81889 in mesa "[apport] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 07:15 |
| seb128_ | kiko: I'm not speaking about a product, I want to open an upstream task for that bug pointing to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 | 07:16 |
| Ubugtu | Freedesktop bug 10191 in Drivers/DRI/Unichrome "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Normal,New] - Assigned to dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net | 07:16 |
| seb128_ | kiko: product would be "mesa" on freedesktop | 07:16 |
| kiko | seb128_, so there is no product registered either? | 07:16 |
| seb128_ | not that I know about | 07:16 |
| kiko | seb128_, that's what you /really/ want me to do :-) | 07:16 |
| kiko | seb128_, is it only one product? do they release only as one tarball? | 07:17 |
| seb128_ | well, that's easy, I want to open an upstream bug watch | 07:17 |
| seb128_ | yep | 07:17 |
| seb128_ | they roll a mesa tarball | 07:17 |
| kiko | seb128_, what is easy? creating a product? | 07:17 |
| seb128_ | no, what I need | 07:18 |
| seb128_ | I what to add a line on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/81889 with https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 | 07:18 |
| kiko | seb128_, you need an upstream product to tie that to | 07:18 |
| seb128_ | you probably know better what launchpad requires for that ;) | 07:18 |
| seb128_ | ok | 07:18 |
| kiko | otherwise there is nothing that can store the status information you want | 07:18 |
| seb128_ | right | 07:19 |
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| kiko | basically what you are saying when you add that row is that the bug is "not ubuntu's fault", but instead, something upstream | 07:19 |
| kiko | anyway let me help you | 07:19 |
| seb128_ | thank you | 07:19 |
| seb128_ | opened an upstream product only to add a bug watch is really annoying | 07:19 |
| kiko | seb128_, but you only need to do it once. | 07:20 |
| seb128_ | I'm tempted to abuse a random xorg product | 07:20 |
| seb128_ | like compiz which is already registred ;) | 07:20 |
| kiko | and you can later group bugs related to mesa | 07:20 |
| kiko | which in turn makes it easier for us to contact mesa about them | 07:20 |
| kiko | or to assign a mesa bug contact | 07:20 |
| seb128_ | yeah, I understand that | 07:20 |
| kiko | man beta is giving me pains today | 07:20 |
| seb128_ | there should be possible to create a product named mesa without having to know what source tracker they use, having to write a description of what mesa is, etc | 07:21 |
| seb128_ | I stopped using beta | 07:21 |
| seb128_ | it's just too slow | 07:21 |
| seb128_ | I open like an hundred bug page a day and it takes 10 seconds to open one on beta | 07:21 |
| kiko | what's the mesa homepage I wonder.. | 07:22 |
| kiko | seb128_, to be honest it's pretty easy to register a product. All you need to know is the name and a summary | 07:22 |
| seb128_ | well, I'm associated with the product if I'm the one who opened it, no? | 07:22 |
| seb128_ | like I get bugs, etc | 07:23 |
| seb128_ | and I only triaged a bug on mesa | 07:23 |
| seb128_ | I don't want to get mails about it | 07:23 |
| kiko | not necessarily | 07:24 |
| kiko | you say who the owner is when you register it | 07:24 |
| kiko | you can just register it to "registry" | 07:24 |
| seb128_ | ah, didn't know about that | 07:25 |
| seb128_ | thank you for the information ;) | 07:25 |
| kiko | sure thing | 07:25 |
| radix | arggggggg | 07:25 |
| kiko | what | 07:25 |
| radix | the sorting per-column in milestone views is still buggy :( | 07:26 |
| kiko | man freshmeat is even slower than beta | 07:26 |
| radix | heh | 07:26 |
| kiko | seb128_, is mesa part of xorg? | 07:44 |
| kiko | hey ddaa you know the product release finder? | 07:45 |
| kiko | do you know what sort of approach we should use for sourceforge downloads? | 07:45 |
| seb128_ | kiko: yep | 07:47 |
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| kiko | https://beta.launchpad.net/mesa | 07:48 |
| seb128_ | kiko: thank you! | 07:48 |
| kiko | seb128_, and set to use freedesktop | 07:48 |
| kiko | easy! | 07:48 |
| ddaa | kiko: I do not know the PRF much | 07:49 |
| ddaa | but I know the trick we used for sourceforge tarball details back then | 07:49 |
| kiko | ddaa, pity, I wanted to provide good information but the way sourceforge does the magic redirect makes me unsure of how to specify the tarball directory | 07:49 |
| ddaa | we used some sourforge mirror that's close to the DC | 07:49 |
| ddaa | kiko: we need to entirely circumvent sourceforge's brain-damaged idea of a download farm. | 07:50 |
| ddaa | mh... add missing invectives in the last sentence | 07:50 |
| kiko | yeah IKWYM | 07:51 |
| ddaa | give me a minute | 07:51 |
| ddaa | what's the sourceforge project you want to download? | 07:53 |
| kiko | mesa | 07:54 |
| kiko | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3 | 07:54 |
| ddaa | this one ftp://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/m/me/mesa, or this one ftp://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/m/me/mesa3d ? | 07:54 |
| ddaa | the second one | 07:55 |
| ddaa | okay, be careful to set the glob pattern right | 07:55 |
| ddaa | there's a lot of shit there | 07:55 |
| ddaa | kiko: does that make you happy? | 07:56 |
| kiko | wow! | 07:56 |
| kiko | yes | 07:57 |
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| ddaa | kiko: how do you reboot a crashed camera? | 08:02 |
| kiko | ddaa, often there's a reset button in it. | 08:03 |
| ddaa | mh... nothing reset-like... maybe some combination of the normal buttons... | 08:04 |
| ddaa | nevermind... | 08:04 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #39739 in soyuz "Please include build url in notification e-mails" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39739 | 08:06 |
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| kiko | Seveas, why does ubugtu not notice that an old bug is actually old? is it because it has never seen it before? :) | 08:13 |
| Seveas | kiko, because sometimes bugs are new for a team | 08:16 |
| Seveas | for the LP team I still have to add all axisting bugs to the cache | 08:16 |
| kiko | I see | 08:16 |
| Seveas | which means pestring LP with lots of HTTP requests given that there is no real intrface to get that info :) | 08:16 |
| kiko | Seveas, maybe just cache a number below which you know all bugs are old? | 08:18 |
| Seveas | did that, failed for Ubuntu | 08:19 |
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| thumper | morning people | 09:02 |
| ajmitch | morning thumper | 09:02 |
| thumper | hi ajmitch | 09:02 |
| ajmitch | and what a beautiful morning it is here | 09:03 |
| ddaa | hello thumper | 09:05 |
| kiko | it's a lovely evening here | 09:05 |
| thumper | morning ddaa | 09:11 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #54359 in malone "We should be able to add tags while reporting bugs." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54359 | 11:16 |
| jml | what exactly is a Hug Day? | 11:37 |
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| pochu | jml: a Bug Day | 11:46 |
| jml | ahh | 11:47 |
| pochu | jml: and everytime somebody fixes a bug, the rest hug him :) | 11:47 |
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| kiko | lol | 11:51 |
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| sabdfl | evening all | 12:10 |
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| bac | sabdfl: hello | 12:10 |
| sabdfl | thought i'd peek in here this evening | 12:11 |
| bac | it's mighty quiet | 12:11 |
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