[12:22] The annoying thing is that I can't delete it via SFTP === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.199] has joined #launchpad === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has left #launchpad [] [12:27] Theuni, can you not even rename it via SFTP? === bac_ [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [12:29] kiko: nope. [12:29] it just says "failure" [12:31] where's ddaa when we need him [12:31] Theuni, I'll check with david tomorrow morning and get back to you on this, he's probably asleep by now. [12:31] this is meant to work! === barry is now known as barry-away [12:32] Theuni, it's funny how often we rely on control-C; there is one operation in bzr that I control-C repeatedly and it used to leave the tree in an inconsistent state all the time [12:32] the operation is a bzr commit, btw [12:32] I never noticed how often I commit and then change my mind about the commit message mid-commit === bac_ is now known as bac__away === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [12:42] file a support request for this please === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@espeed24-58.brunet.bn] has joined #launchpad [12:43] kiko: bzr uncommit is your friend. [12:43] Theuni: bzr 0.15 when it is released should be more tolerant of that situation. === poolie [n=mbp@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [12:47] spiv, bzr commit survives control-Cs quite nicely actually [12:47] in a good way, or that it ignores them [12:47] hi kiko [12:48] hey poolie! [12:48] it aborts nicely [12:48] and rarely leaves over stale locks [12:48] tla was horrible when I did that! === bac__away is now known as bac_ === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [12:55] kiko-zzz: sure. But even so, bzr uncommit is still your friend :) === bac_ is now known as bac__away [01:01] I hit C-c in the middle of pushing "trunk" for a new project (to bazaar.launchpad.net/~jkakar/approximate/trunk). Now when I try and push the same branch is fails, complaining it can't create the trunk directory, cause it's already there. [01:02] Is there a way to remove the broken branch so I can push a new one? [01:02] jkakar, you need to join the bazaar-broken-supermirror-pushes mailing list :-) [01:02] jkakar: use bzr.dev [01:02] Oh! [01:02] jkakar: otherwise, be patient while we work on this :) === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-065-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [01:03] Theuni, as you may have noticed, this is a common problem. :-) [01:03] spiv: Hehehe. 'k, thanks. === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [01:04] Heh. I should have read the backscroll before making noises about broken branches. :) [01:05] kiko-zzz: hooray! [01:05] Theuni, I'm going to be printing t-shirts later [01:05] *g [01:05] a fan club "we <3 bzr push + ^C" [01:05] etc [01:05] hehe === kiko-zzz has like 4 branches in ^Cd limbo [01:06] now that spiv has divulged that bzr.dev contains a fix I need to investigate === jml [n=jml@ppp201-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [01:25] thumper: did your change to allow switching branches from mirrored to hosted go in? [01:25] poolie: not yet [01:25] that is all part of the explicit branch type stuff [01:25] which is work in progress === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-56.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [01:29] Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [01:30] thumper: ok [01:30] hella mpt [01:38] jkakar: hi [01:44] WebMaven: Hey! [01:44] WebMaven: Was fun to hang out with you at PyCon. :) [01:45] likewise. Thanks for the beer! === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [02:51] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-136-111.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === shawn__ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx is now known as espectro === espectro is now known as effie_jayx === ryanakca likes the beta interface, Good job [04:30] tsu === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.240.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Rotund [n=rotund@72-160-242-104.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #launchpad [04:49] Can someone either point me to a "how to host a bazaar branch on launchpad.net" or walk me through it. [04:52] Rotund: sure [04:52] https://help.launchpad.net/BazaarLinks?highlight=%28bazaar%29 [04:52] lifeless, cool. I just registered the prject [04:52] Rotund: https://code.launchpad.net/ [04:53] Rotund: that page has a brief overview [04:58] Rotund: hey, good to see you checking out LP [04:59] welcome to reep pressure [04:59] :-) [04:59] radix: N/P. I saw my pic on your blog [04:59] Rotund: sorry for truncating your face. It was all for the trendy photographic style. [04:59] And it wasn't just any monkey. It was Curious George in a space suit. [05:00] BTW: I just registered OpenAL [05:00] heh :) [05:00] Rotund: woot === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-065-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === radix goes to bed === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad [05:30] New bug: #90015 in launchpad "Registrant didn't necessarily register project" [Low,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90015 [05:55] New bug: #90019 in launchpad "LP beta: Sidebar text doesn't display properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90019 === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-136-111.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [06:06] New bug: #90022 in launchpad "LP beta: Home popup covers up Home menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90022 === jml_ [n=jml@ppp201-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml [07:00] New bug: #90028 in rosetta "Displaying 100% when 1 package still neews review" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90028 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad === ZhongHan [n=chatzill@bb121-6-206-96.singnet.com.sg] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@200-127-6-133.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad [08:22] mpt: ping? [08:22] (beuno: In case I'm not here right now, tell me about what you want, and I'll reply when I'm available.) [08:24] mpt: I just wanted to check with you if there is any way to make a bug marked as private due to me posting a screenshot from the beta, public (deleting the attachment, changing it to the regular launchpad screenshot) === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [08:44] morning [08:45] hi beuno [08:45] I was just about to comment on that very issue :-) [08:45] mpt: :D === beuno waves at carlos [08:46] beuno, you can't delete attachments yet; that's bug 48771. [08:46] Malone bug 48771 in malone "It should be possible to delete attachments" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48771 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) === ddaa [n=david@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [08:47] So for now, we (the Launchpad team) will take the penalty of having to mark any duplicates as duplicates because reporters couldn't find the private originals. [08:48] heh, got it [08:48] Since your statistics bug has probably existed for quite a while without anyone else reporting it, that shouldn't be too much of a problem in this case. [08:48] Good morning. [08:48] thumper: jml: hello guys, wassup? [08:48] sorry again for posting the screenshot, "launchpad" didn't feel very public to me [08:48] ddaa: g'day. === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-233-130.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [08:49] ddaa: not much more today :) [08:49] beuno, what do you mean by "didn't feel very public"? [08:49] Do you mean that it didn't seem like it would be revealing great secrets? [08:49] I guess he means that launchpad does not appear to have a lot of exposure... [08:49] (just guessing) [08:50] mpt, no, in my mind I just didn't realize I would be exposing it to the public, but obviously anyone can access it, so I just didn't think it through [08:50] ah, right [08:51] beuno: launcphad probably has a lot more exposure than you imagine [08:51] beuno, Launchpad is an unusual bugtracker in that Google indexes it. :-) [08:51] actually, it has a lot more exposure than I imagined until not long ago. [08:51] (or I should say, "Launchpad's bugtracker is unusual in that...") [08:52] well, that's a fun fact to post to the next UWN ;) [08:52] and the proximity to the ubuntu websites gives high pageranks to pretty much anything on launchpad... [08:55] yes, my launchpad user page is first when googling for name [08:55] shot right up there [08:57] Wow, #3 for me too [08:57] and #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, and #9 [08:58] which can all be blamed on Launchpad's application domains :-/ [08:59] heh, yeap yeap [08:59] mpt: isn't it a bug that a given web page can show up on multiple domains? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad [08:59] I mean, a bug as in "will be fixed before 1.0" [08:59] ddaa, yes it's a bug (but not a 1.0-worthy one, IMO), but that's not the cause here [08:59] not a bug as in "yeah, we know it's broken"... [09:00] The cause here is that normally there would be just two results: the most important, the second most important, and then "More results from launchpad.net" [09:01] But now there's one from launchpad.net, one from blueprints.launchpad.net, one from translations.launchpad.net, two from code.launchpad.net, one from bugs..., and one from answers... [09:02] For me #1 is my blog, #2 is my home page on translations.launchpad.net (!!!), #3 my home page on blueprints.launchpad.net, #4 Savannah, #6 home page on bugs.launchpad.net [09:02] So the bug is that we have several "sites", which are actually the same site, so systems like google don't realise that the cloud of *.launchpad.net ought to be treated as one logical site in their results. [09:02] Hooray google-bombing :/ [09:02] I see. [09:03] Maybe we should hire an SEO form to advise us on how to achieve lower-ranking results [09:03] SEO firm, I mean [09:03] ;-) [09:03] Maybe we can just tell google? [09:03] we have like good contact with those people [09:04] so do good SEO firms :) [09:05] I don't think Google does special-casing unless legally required to === spiv imagines a slogan like "Launchpad: a user interface unlike anyone else's"... ;) [09:06] I heard that's a pretty good SEO firm: http://validator.w3.org/ [09:06] mpt: I think they actually do tweak things routinely, for example lowering the pagerank of blogs [09:07] because they are so insanely cross-linked [09:07] Perhaps, but not *individual* Weblogs [09:07] sure [09:07] for example [09:08] Matt Cuts' blog is a good place to read about that: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog [09:08] but I would not be surprised if they had a control panel for things precisely like *.launchpad.net [09:08] If they treat *.launchpad.net as the same site, they need to treat *.wordpress.com as the same site, when they aren't [09:08] or *.blogspot.com or *.typepad.com etc [09:08] Gotcha [09:08] he's the "he head of the Google's Webspam team" [09:08] Still I'd expect launchpad is not the first website to come up with that particular "good idea". === beuno does webdev for a living, so he keeps as up to date as humanly possible [09:09] And arguably bazaar.launchpad.net, help.launchpad.net, and any other non-primary webapp domains are actually seperate sites. [09:09] *shrug* too bad [09:10] maybe we could actually fix that ourselves with that "google sitemap" thing? === jml [n=jml@ppp201-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [09:11] ddaa: I think a combination of sitemaps and robots.txt should do it [09:11] beuno: if true, that would be worth doing. [09:13] I can look into it specifically if you wish, I just need a more specific idea fo what you're trying to accomplish [09:15] beuno: make {,blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations.}launchpad.net be considered as the same website by google [09:15] but not {bazaar.,help.,codebrowse.}launchpad.net [09:16] though bazaar.launchpad.net is probably not indexed (yet?) [09:16] got it, "make user-specified domains be considered as the same" [09:16] yup [09:22] ddaa: a good place to start would be registering the site in: https://www.google.com/webmasters/ === ddaa checks [09:23] you can set the "preferred" domain, which won't solve this specific problem, it's a "must have" [09:24] ddaa, one option I can think of is to have the robots.txt inform google to now crawl specific subdomains, just the ones you want [09:25] that way you can choose one for "blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations", and block out the rest [09:25] actually, all domains should be crawled [09:25] that tool also helps you with robots.txt and sitemaps === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #launchpad [09:27] others should either be crawled (help.), are unindexable (bazaar.) or should be altogether blacklisted for now (codebrowse.) === arekm [n=arekm@pld-linux/arekm] has left #launchpad [] [09:28] well, for starters, with robots.txt you can deny crawling for those [09:28] oh, sure there's a bug open for this [09:28] jamesh should fix that today :) [09:28] but it's a completely different issue [09:28] why do you want blueprints.,code.,bugs.,translations be considered as one then? [09:29] because it's all just one website... [09:29] actually, you can access most pages (in particular people's home pages) through all of them === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-70-231-255-214.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [09:30] yes, that would be duplicate content, but "code.launchpad.net" is as different as "launchpad.net/code" [09:30] so either way, for pageranks sake, it's the same [09:30] They're the one "site". Whenever I'd expect google to group results all from "launchpad.net", I'd expect otherwise matching results from "blueprints.launchpad.net" to be in the same group. [09:30] what spiv says [09:31] the main problem his how google groups results [09:31] aaah, I see now [09:31] Because as a user, even though the url changes slightly, they're all the one "place" to me. [09:31] It just so happens that the url part changing here is the domain name rather than the path, is all :) [09:31] well, sitemaps will fix that, it will inform google it's all on the same site [09:32] That's good to know. [09:32] I've seen this specific case somewhere === beuno fires up google === ddaa takes out the extinguisher [09:33] probably the best way to fix this is to redirect users when they hit a page but are using the wrong domain [09:34] jamesh: probably, but that still won't group google results as expected [09:34] I don't think we'll make proper use of the domains til https://foo.launchpad.net/path and https://bar.launchpad.net/path regularly give different content [09:35] fuck me [09:35] "From: Abkenokid@aol.com" [09:36] "are u french ? Did you ever live in Montpellier in france ? Just [09:36] curious .................. [09:36] thank you for your time ." [09:36] ?!?!?! [09:36] lol, fan mail! [09:36] (things I'm coming up with: http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/b5034e3606b95bd1/edc2ffc1fbb833fa?lnk=gst&q=subdomain&rnum=17#edc2ffc1fbb833fa ) [09:39] :( "Google treats each sub domain as a seperate site, even www.yourdomain.com and yourdomain.com are treated as seperate sites ..." === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [09:41] subdomains have to be submited as different sites, they eve have to have different "sitemaps keys" === bigjools [n=bigjools@82-71-93-249.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=pochu@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #launchpad [09:56] One possible solution is (gasp! horror!) to stop using subdomains [09:57] yes, I just didn't want to be the one to put that on the table [09:57] :D [09:57] You can tell google of equivalent hostnames (and I thought they detected it too?), and specify what your preferred one is in their search results. [09:58] (although we break it, as https://launchpad.net/foo is not the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/foo, but https://launchpad.net/foo/+bugs is...) [09:58] I bet we look like some sort of dodgy link farm :) [09:59] yes, I think considering google's crawl rates, it will, probably keep looking like different sites === mrevell [n=matthew@62-31-78-45.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === UB` [n=mik@stargate.fastweb.it] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [10:21] any news on the Feisty translations? [10:26] beuno: we are doing some changes to speed the process a bit [10:27] but imports are still running [10:27] ah, ok ok, for some reason I had in my head the ETA was yesterday === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [10:40] beuno: well, it was the initial ETA [10:40] but the process is taking more time than planned [10:41] good good, just checking, no real hurry :D [10:41] beuno: anyway, we will announce it as soon as it's ready [10:41] thanks carlos [10:41] np === parseK [n=parseK@dsl-roigw3-feb6dc00-27.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad [11:13] How can i delete a bug report i made? I found another like it, and already marked it as a duplicate === furaxx [i=furax@r00tworld.com] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [11:15] parseK: you can't, but marking as a duplicate is enough :) [11:16] ok, thanks. === schwuk [n=schwuk@www.schwuk.com] has joined #launchpad [11:35] hey schwuk === jelmer [n=jelmer@219pc197.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad [11:38] jelmer: morning [11:38] hi Matthew [11:39] hey jelmer [11:41] hi David === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@espeed24-58.brunet.bn] has joined #launchpad [11:52] jelmer: should i publish the import for https://beta.launchpad.net/samba/main ? [11:53] it passed a test import over the week-end, but I'd rather not publish it if it would cause confusing with bzr-svn branches. [11:53] ddaa: oh, that shouldn't be a problem [11:53] someone hacked up a cronjob that imported revisions from subversion [11:53] so we already have the confusion :-) [11:53] ... === spiv imagines ddaa's face [11:54] I fail to be convinced it's a good reason... but at least it will make the boss happy. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === xbright [n=xbright@AStDenis-106-1-4-196.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> out [12:02] see you later === poolie [n=mbp@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === apokryphos [n=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [01:00] good morning folks === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [01:08] does LP support tags with spaces, such us "command line"? === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad [01:11] pochu: no, but you can use command-line instead. [01:11] matsubara: ok, ty :) === newz2000 [n=matt@12-210-150-228.client.mchsi.com] has left #launchpad ["If] === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === daviey [n=dave1111@unaffiliated/daviey] has joined #launchpad [01:42] you'll love this: If you want your bug report to be useful, you need to narrow the bug down as much as possible, then report to the most relevant and specific bug tracker. [01:43] sorry, wrong quote [01:43] < The reason that Launchpad sucks, in my opinion, is that it tries to be a giant bug repository, where what is needed is reporting of bugs directly to their individual bugtrackers. === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:44] daviey: did you mention to that guy that maybe he's entirely not getting it? [01:44] PirateHead, decentralising *everything*? [01:45] what a plank! i had to paste it here [01:46] might be more constructive to try telling him how his perception is faulty [01:48] it was in #ubuntu - so didn't really want to go OT [01:49] well, I'm not on #ubuntu, but I believe it would not be offtopic, since launchpad is the ubuntu bug tracker [01:49] actually it would be particularly relevant because his perception might be caused by a misapprehension of what is a distro bugtracker compared to an upstream bugtracker [01:49] which is precisely where launchpad bug tracking different [01:50] well #ubuntu is the support channel, so to be fair - he shouldn't have even aired his opinion there === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [02:05] New bug: #90098 in launchpad "bug watch script should not be running in serializable transaction isolation" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90098 === UB` [n=mik@stargate.fastweb.it] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] [02:36] New bug: #90083 in rosetta "Insert manual word breaks to force long words to wrap" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90083 === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-140-200-159.ctame7043.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko === neversfelde [n=neversfe@p54939BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable252.1-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === Rotund [n=rotund@72-160-242-104.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #launchpad === barry-away is now known as barr1 === barr1 is now known as barry === welterde [n=welterde@trujillo.srv.pocoo.org] has joined #launchpad [03:22] hi [03:31] New bug: #90116 in launchpad "in lp.net/~user linking to OpenPGP keys is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90116 [03:40] New bug: #90118 in launchpad "Launchpad bug emails need Precedence header" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90118 === neversfelde [n=neversfe@p54939BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [04:08] welterde: wow! that was fast [04:08] I just barely fixed up the jlink import details that you already renamed stuff around === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #launchpad [04:20] welterde: the import for jlink is fixed [04:21] New bug: #1885 in soyuz "Check canonical_url for Soyuz" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1885 [04:21] New bug: #54634 in soyuz "nascentupload find_build build caching ignores arch tag" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54634 [04:21] welterde: file a support request to ask an admin to move the trunk-err series to the obsolete-junk product [04:21] or just ask kiko here [04:21] kiko? [04:21] sure. [04:21] URL? [04:21] https://beta.launchpad.net/jlink/trunk-err [04:23] done [04:24] gotta love that level of user support [04:24] fixing things even before people ask :) [04:24] heh [04:24] man, soyuz bug reports are a mess [04:24] I cannot imagine. [04:25] SERIOUSLY [04:25] I'm serious. [04:26] I cannot imagine how soyuz feels like. [04:26] maybe like starving fireants behind your eyeballs? [04:27] you seem to have a thing with ants lately, ddaa [04:27] apparently [04:27] okay... what about kittens playing behind your eyeballs? [04:28] ya see... does not really carry the same punch... === medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #launchpad === lamont ships ddaa some fireants [04:42] nah - probably get hung up in customs or something === kdefreak [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad [04:47] is there a way to view all the bugs in https://beta.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs at once instead of clicking on each category to see just those, and then having to go back and switch^ [04:50] hmm [05:09] kdefreak: not atm, but it will soon be possible. the first step of fixing this is bug 70628, which will allow you to use the advanced search to get all kubuntu-team's bugs. [05:09] Malone bug 70628 in malone "Allow searching for a bug contact's bugs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70628 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) [05:09] kk, thanks === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@91.64.1.251] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [05:15] New bug: #52033 in launchpad-bazaar "register-branch --author without email address" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52033 === Rotund [n=rotund@72-160-242-104.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [05:36] New bug: #90150 in launchpad "FOAF does not automatically know about LP-managed username@ubuntu.com email addresses" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90150 === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [06:03] flacoste: could you please respond to the e-mail about the reviewer meeting? [06:04] BjornT: right, I'll do, short answer: it's fine with me === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad [06:04] flacoste: cool [06:09] heya :) one little question: if I'm a member of one LP team, and I'm deactivated from that team... the points I have earned in it, are removed from my account? === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [06:10] pochu: no [06:11] pochu: karma is not linked with that, but with your work done [06:11] carlos: ok, ty! === glatzor [n=sebi@p549654B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === caravena [n=caravena@117-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad === sinzui is now known as sinzui_lunch === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === seb128_ [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-13-43.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [06:29] i'm a little confused about launchpad. what is the difference between https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs and https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs ? === seb128_ [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-13-43.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [06:32] mooey, they're exactly the same, since they have identical URLs [06:33] aheh [06:33] they are, yes :P i meant: [06:33] https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bugs and https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bugs [06:34] ah, those two ones are quite different [06:34] mooey: the first is in ubuntu and the second upstream [06:34] exactly what pochu sayd [06:34] s/sayd/said/ [06:35] so the bugs in /rhythmbox as opposed to /ubuntu are only those that were filed on launchpad and linked with gnomes bugtracker? [06:37] right [06:37] ok, that makes sense [06:38] thanks === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host35-132-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@69-215.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer_ [n=niemeyer@200.181.171.186] has joined #launchpad [06:55] New bug: #29671 in malone "Listing shows bug "unassigned" even when it's assigned" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29671 [06:55] New bug: #32271 in malone "Bugs that are unconfirmed and assigned show up as only unconfirmed in bug listings" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32271 === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [07:10] salgado: do bugs that get reported in ubuntu and changed to affect upstream get moved to the upstream section in launchpad, or stay in the same place? [07:10] xerosis, they are usually kept in both places [07:11] in launchpad, bugs can be present in multiple contexts [07:11] each with its own status information. [07:11] xerosis, they don't get moved, but they'll show up on the upstream bugs list as well as the distro package bugs list [07:11] kiko: ah ok [07:11] right-o [07:13] kiko: hi, could you teach to launchpad that mesa upstreams uses freedesktop as bug tracker so I can open upstream tasks for bugs? [07:14] seb128_, sure. [07:14] thank you [07:14] seb128_, is that launchpad.net/mesa? [07:15] kiko: hum? [07:15] seb128_, what products are you talking about? [07:15] kiko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/81889 example [07:15] Malone bug 81889 in mesa "[apport] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:16] kiko: I'm not speaking about a product, I want to open an upstream task for that bug pointing to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 [07:16] Freedesktop bug 10191 in Drivers/DRI/Unichrome "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Normal,New] - Assigned to dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [07:16] kiko: product would be "mesa" on freedesktop [07:16] seb128_, so there is no product registered either? [07:16] not that I know about [07:16] seb128_, that's what you /really/ want me to do :-) [07:17] seb128_, is it only one product? do they release only as one tarball? [07:17] well, that's easy, I want to open an upstream bug watch [07:17] yep [07:17] they roll a mesa tarball [07:17] seb128_, what is easy? creating a product? [07:18] no, what I need [07:18] I what to add a line on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/81889 with https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 [07:18] seb128_, you need an upstream product to tie that to [07:18] you probably know better what launchpad requires for that ;) [07:18] ok [07:18] otherwise there is nothing that can store the status information you want [07:19] right === sinzui_lunch is now known as sinzui [07:19] basically what you are saying when you add that row is that the bug is "not ubuntu's fault", but instead, something upstream [07:19] anyway let me help you [07:19] thank you [07:19] opened an upstream product only to add a bug watch is really annoying [07:20] seb128_, but you only need to do it once. [07:20] I'm tempted to abuse a random xorg product [07:20] like compiz which is already registred ;) [07:20] and you can later group bugs related to mesa [07:20] which in turn makes it easier for us to contact mesa about them [07:20] or to assign a mesa bug contact [07:20] yeah, I understand that [07:20] man beta is giving me pains today [07:21] there should be possible to create a product named mesa without having to know what source tracker they use, having to write a description of what mesa is, etc [07:21] I stopped using beta [07:21] it's just too slow [07:21] I open like an hundred bug page a day and it takes 10 seconds to open one on beta [07:22] what's the mesa homepage I wonder.. [07:22] seb128_, to be honest it's pretty easy to register a product. All you need to know is the name and a summary [07:22] well, I'm associated with the product if I'm the one who opened it, no? [07:23] like I get bugs, etc [07:23] and I only triaged a bug on mesa [07:23] I don't want to get mails about it [07:24] not necessarily [07:24] you say who the owner is when you register it [07:24] you can just register it to "registry" [07:25] ah, didn't know about that [07:25] thank you for the information ;) [07:25] sure thing [07:25] arggggggg [07:25] what [07:26] the sorting per-column in milestone views is still buggy :( [07:26] man freshmeat is even slower than beta [07:26] heh [07:44] seb128_, is mesa part of xorg? [07:45] hey ddaa you know the product release finder? [07:45] do you know what sort of approach we should use for sourceforge downloads? [07:47] kiko: yep === UB` [n=mik@85-18-201-169.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #launchpad === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [07:48] https://beta.launchpad.net/mesa [07:48] kiko: thank you! [07:48] seb128_, and set to use freedesktop [07:48] easy! [07:49] kiko: I do not know the PRF much [07:49] but I know the trick we used for sourceforge tarball details back then [07:49] ddaa, pity, I wanted to provide good information but the way sourceforge does the magic redirect makes me unsure of how to specify the tarball directory [07:49] we used some sourforge mirror that's close to the DC [07:50] kiko: we need to entirely circumvent sourceforge's brain-damaged idea of a download farm. [07:50] mh... add missing invectives in the last sentence [07:51] yeah IKWYM [07:51] give me a minute [07:53] what's the sourceforge project you want to download? [07:54] mesa [07:54] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3 [07:54] this one ftp://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/m/me/mesa, or this one ftp://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/m/me/mesa3d ? [07:55] the second one [07:55] okay, be careful to set the glob pattern right [07:55] there's a lot of shit there [07:56] kiko: does that make you happy? [07:56] wow! [07:57] yes === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.240.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.197.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [08:02] kiko: how do you reboot a crashed camera? [08:03] ddaa, often there's a reset button in it. [08:04] mh... nothing reset-like... maybe some combination of the normal buttons... [08:04] nevermind... [08:06] New bug: #39739 in soyuz "Please include build url in notification e-mails" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39739 === ploc [i=Ankh@201009034210.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #launchpad [08:13] Seveas, why does ubugtu not notice that an old bug is actually old? is it because it has never seen it before? :) [08:16] kiko, because sometimes bugs are new for a team [08:16] for the LP team I still have to add all axisting bugs to the cache [08:16] I see [08:16] which means pestring LP with lots of HTTP requests given that there is no real intrface to get that info :) [08:18] Seveas, maybe just cache a number below which you know all bugs are old? [08:19] did that, failed for Ubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@171-152-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad [09:02] morning people [09:02]