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crimsunKazz: please use https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addticket instead.12:20
mjg59crimsun: Have you had a chance to look at the Macbook patch?12:21
crimsunmjg59: I just stepped off a plane, so no, but I've merged about 99% of the patch_realtek/sigmatel fixes. I'll look at it right now.12:21
mjg59crimsun: Heh, no problem12:21
mjg59crimsun: Thanks!12:21
mjg59crimsun: Other than the wireless, it's pretty much the last thing on the todo list for that hardware12:22
crimsungreat12:22
Kazzcrimsun: Alright, thanks.  I'm gonna' try installing the 32 bit version of Ubuntu first, and I'll keep trying to figure out where the problem is.  If I still think it's in the kernel, I'll try that. :)12:25
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varkatope_hi11:58
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mgalvincrimsun: gigantenormous you say? supertasticful!01:26
mgalvincrimsun: -9.16 did not fix the sound problem but i will be sure to try out the latest kernel as soon as it is ready01:26
mgalvincrimsun: on the MBP that is01:27
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zulcrap its freaking cold02:26
zulfeels like -40C with the windchill02:36
kylem... yeah.02:50
zulthank god I had the car today02:52
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kylemcjwatson, are we able to get the country choice out of ubiquity/d-i in the installed system somehow?04:54
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cjwatsonkylem: best to look at the locale05:02
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kylemcjwatson, darn. that doesn't really strike me as an effective way of determining it.08:16
mjg59kylem: We actually want this information for modems as well08:18
kylemperhaps we could store it somewhere?08:18
mjg59Having it stored centrally would make sense08:19
mjg59Then have scripts parse it08:19
mjg59Makes it easier to deal with moving countries08:19
mjg59Though ISTR that there's a spec for APs to tell cards what region they're in08:20
cjwatsonlocale as in /etc/default/locale - it's not *that* hard to parse08:21
cjwatsonI could dump it somewhere else butt you'd still have to deal with (a) upgrades and (b) people moving and forgetting to change it08:21
cjwatsons/butt/but/08:21
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kylemuhm.08:21
kylemhow is what language someone speaks a good indication of where in the world they are?08:22
kylemor am i missing something really obvious...08:22
kylemhttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/9009408:22
kylemperhaps network-manager should be extended, dunno.08:24
kylemit's really moronic for this to be a module option instead of a WEXT.08:24
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cjwatsonkylem: because the installer gives them a map of the world and tells them to select a place on it and then uses that to construct the locale?08:27
cjwatson(in ADDITION to their language)08:27
cjwatsonok, there's crap like pt_PT vs. pt_BR. How about their timezone instead?08:28
cjwatsonyou'd have to map it to country but it's not too painful as long as people use the city zones (the installer does) rather than the generic ones like EST08:28
cjwatsonthat's about all I can offer you08:28
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kylemhrm.08:32
mjg59cjwatson: How about just dumping the point they clicked on somewhere?08:41
mjg59cjwatson: We need a separate file containing it, in any case - in theory it's something that people need to change when they move the machine between countries08:42
kylemmjg59, i think this is slightly more involved than i initially thought.08:45
lfittldoes anybody have an idea why lvm persistent major device numbers are ignored?08:45
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varkatopehi11:17
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mgalvinfor future reference how does one capture a kernel oops to a file (or which file is the log stored in)? ...so i don't have to take screen shots like a fool :-/11:43
mjg59mgalvin: If they've crashed the machine, they won't be in a file11:44
mgalvinmjg59: in my case it does crash the machine11:47
Luremgalvin: dmesg > file ?11:47
mgalvinah, easy enough great thanks11:48
mgalvinit was the rtl8180 oops which is hopefully fixed now... but good to know, thanks again11:49
mjg59No, not fixed yet11:49
mjg59But extra dumps probably don't help11:49
cjwatsonmjg59: the point they clicked on is adequately represented by the city as encoded in the timezone; I don't think that any finer resolution is useful.11:53
cjwatsonmjg59: also there exists reasonably well-presented UI to edit one's timezone which is a fairly natural thing to bother changing when you move countries, at least assuming you move timezones as well11:53
mgalvinmjg59: well the commit message indicated it would at least not crash the machine (although wireless still does not work)... so this would at least give me a bootable system correct?11:53
mgalvini don't use the wireless as this is my desktop machine with the issue11:54
cjwatsonpeople won't bother changing things they don't have an incentive to change; "desktop clock wrong" is reasonable incentive11:54
mgalvinso not a big deal (for me at least) past that point11:54
mjg59cjwatson: Ok, that's probably fair, yes11:55
mjg59It also means we already have a UI for that11:56
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