| crimsun | Kazz: please use https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addticket instead. | 12:20 |
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| mjg59 | crimsun: Have you had a chance to look at the Macbook patch? | 12:21 |
| crimsun | mjg59: I just stepped off a plane, so no, but I've merged about 99% of the patch_realtek/sigmatel fixes. I'll look at it right now. | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: Heh, no problem | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: Thanks! | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: Other than the wireless, it's pretty much the last thing on the todo list for that hardware | 12:22 |
| crimsun | great | 12:22 |
| Kazz | crimsun: Alright, thanks. I'm gonna' try installing the 32 bit version of Ubuntu first, and I'll keep trying to figure out where the problem is. If I still think it's in the kernel, I'll try that. :) | 12:25 |
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| varkatope_ | hi | 11:58 |
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| mgalvin | crimsun: gigantenormous you say? supertasticful! | 01:26 |
| mgalvin | crimsun: -9.16 did not fix the sound problem but i will be sure to try out the latest kernel as soon as it is ready | 01:26 |
| mgalvin | crimsun: on the MBP that is | 01:27 |
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| zul | crap its freaking cold | 02:26 |
| zul | feels like -40C with the windchill | 02:36 |
| kylem | ... yeah. | 02:50 |
| zul | thank god I had the car today | 02:52 |
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| kylem | cjwatson, are we able to get the country choice out of ubiquity/d-i in the installed system somehow? | 04:54 |
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| cjwatson | kylem: best to look at the locale | 05:02 |
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| kylem | cjwatson, darn. that doesn't really strike me as an effective way of determining it. | 08:16 |
| mjg59 | kylem: We actually want this information for modems as well | 08:18 |
| kylem | perhaps we could store it somewhere? | 08:18 |
| mjg59 | Having it stored centrally would make sense | 08:19 |
| mjg59 | Then have scripts parse it | 08:19 |
| mjg59 | Makes it easier to deal with moving countries | 08:19 |
| mjg59 | Though ISTR that there's a spec for APs to tell cards what region they're in | 08:20 |
| cjwatson | locale as in /etc/default/locale - it's not *that* hard to parse | 08:21 |
| cjwatson | I could dump it somewhere else butt you'd still have to deal with (a) upgrades and (b) people moving and forgetting to change it | 08:21 |
| cjwatson | s/butt/but/ | 08:21 |
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| kylem | uhm. | 08:21 |
| kylem | how is what language someone speaks a good indication of where in the world they are? | 08:22 |
| kylem | or am i missing something really obvious... | 08:22 |
| kylem | https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/90094 | 08:22 |
| kylem | perhaps network-manager should be extended, dunno. | 08:24 |
| kylem | it's really moronic for this to be a module option instead of a WEXT. | 08:24 |
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| cjwatson | kylem: because the installer gives them a map of the world and tells them to select a place on it and then uses that to construct the locale? | 08:27 |
| cjwatson | (in ADDITION to their language) | 08:27 |
| cjwatson | ok, there's crap like pt_PT vs. pt_BR. How about their timezone instead? | 08:28 |
| cjwatson | you'd have to map it to country but it's not too painful as long as people use the city zones (the installer does) rather than the generic ones like EST | 08:28 |
| cjwatson | that's about all I can offer you | 08:28 |
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| kylem | hrm. | 08:32 |
| mjg59 | cjwatson: How about just dumping the point they clicked on somewhere? | 08:41 |
| mjg59 | cjwatson: We need a separate file containing it, in any case - in theory it's something that people need to change when they move the machine between countries | 08:42 |
| kylem | mjg59, i think this is slightly more involved than i initially thought. | 08:45 |
| lfittl | does anybody have an idea why lvm persistent major device numbers are ignored? | 08:45 |
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| varkatope | hi | 11:17 |
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| mgalvin | for future reference how does one capture a kernel oops to a file (or which file is the log stored in)? ...so i don't have to take screen shots like a fool :-/ | 11:43 |
| mjg59 | mgalvin: If they've crashed the machine, they won't be in a file | 11:44 |
| mgalvin | mjg59: in my case it does crash the machine | 11:47 |
| Lure | mgalvin: dmesg > file ? | 11:47 |
| mgalvin | ah, easy enough great thanks | 11:48 |
| mgalvin | it was the rtl8180 oops which is hopefully fixed now... but good to know, thanks again | 11:49 |
| mjg59 | No, not fixed yet | 11:49 |
| mjg59 | But extra dumps probably don't help | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | mjg59: the point they clicked on is adequately represented by the city as encoded in the timezone; I don't think that any finer resolution is useful. | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | mjg59: also there exists reasonably well-presented UI to edit one's timezone which is a fairly natural thing to bother changing when you move countries, at least assuming you move timezones as well | 11:53 |
| mgalvin | mjg59: well the commit message indicated it would at least not crash the machine (although wireless still does not work)... so this would at least give me a bootable system correct? | 11:53 |
| mgalvin | i don't use the wireless as this is my desktop machine with the issue | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | people won't bother changing things they don't have an incentive to change; "desktop clock wrong" is reasonable incentive | 11:54 |
| mgalvin | so not a big deal (for me at least) past that point | 11:54 |
| mjg59 | cjwatson: Ok, that's probably fair, yes | 11:55 |
| mjg59 | It also means we already have a UI for that | 11:56 |
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