[12:01] <Allen3373> ok, I don't know what a source kernal is, but I need one for driverloader to install it
[12:01] <erUSUL> shaun: have you checked the ubotu pm?
[12:01] <erUSUL> Allen3373: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:01] <shaun> yes but im using breezy badger 5.10
[12:01] <kelsin> shaun: I would recomend upgrading to dapper or edgy as well, esp if you want to play newer games, might make some stuff easier
[12:02] <shaun> link or command?
[12:02] <shaun> to update
[12:02] <PCGenie> i see that i can get the weather on my panel too\
[12:02] <Allen3373> erUSUL:So, if I type that, then I can install it?
[12:02] <dyrne> shaun: there might be an old guide for 'latest nvidia drivers' in breezy
[12:02] <shaun> yh maybe
[12:02] <shaun> but ive looked cnt find none
[12:03] <dyrne> !upgrade > shaun
[12:03] <erUSUL> Allen3373: yes that package is what you need to build drivers against the running kernel
[12:03] <megafauna> hi, VirtualBox froze during install and now I'm getting nasty messages whenever I try to install anything. Can someone pls tell me how to fix this?
[12:03] <Allen3373> erUSUL: Thanks a lot man!
[12:03] <shaun> ty
[12:03] <erUSUL> Allen3373: no problem
[12:03] <azazel00> finally
[12:03] <dyrne> shaun: basically sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/' /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:04] <trabantas> `openssl s_client -connect <host>: port /not working, why
[12:04] <kunwon1> Hi everyone. I've installed apache2 and mod_perl from packages. When I put a PerlModule directive in apache2.conf to load Apache::Registry, the apache failed to start up because it couldn't find registry.pm. When I try to install registry via a cpan shell, it doesn't see my mod_perl. Is there a way to get it to see the existing mod_perl so that it will properly install Apache::Registry?
[12:04] <erUSUL> !upgrade | shaun
[12:04] <ubotu> shaun: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:04] <sontek> Is there a linux mail server that has shared calendars and tasklists like exchange?
[12:05] <Anohaakten> erUSUL can I pm you concerning installation of files
[12:05] <bluefox83> kunwon1, sounds liek a #perl issue O.o
[12:05] <bluefox83> *like
[12:05] <kunwon1> bluefox83: thanks, i will try there
[12:05] <Kronuz> hey, what about eDonkey for linux?
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> any software that records from a audio/video source?
[12:05] <bluefox83> sontek, evolution?
[12:05] <sontek> bluefox83: thats a client
[12:06] <azazel00> sontek, there was some talk about a calendar server... but I dont know where that stands right now
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> I have a tv card with v4l2 drivers and it has composite inputs
[12:06] <bluefox83> sontek, oh..sorry i don't really know much about email servers...
[12:06] <trabantas> how to install ssl certificate properly with openssl :(
[12:06] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: better ask in the channell if i do not know others will
[12:06] <bluefox83> Shadowpillar, try checking the multimedia tutorials for ubuntu...
[12:07] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: what are you trying to install?
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> !multimedia
[12:07] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:07] <Anohaakten> anything erUSUL
[12:07] <Anohaakten> I mean
[12:07] <Anohaakten> how do you install a bin file
[12:07] <somian> Anyone know why "Terminal does not support AddHistory" using ubuntu's Perl/cpan
[12:07] <Anohaakten> do they not just have a program that installs stuff for you?
[12:07] <Anohaakten> like you simply drag and drop the bin file, and it installs it?
[12:07] <shaun> ok i think i have upgraded
[12:08] <Anohaakten> I mean, everything thing I am reading, you have to do this sudo stuff in terminal
[12:08] <Jowi> megafauna, what do you mean by "install"? are there compiler errors or something else?
[12:08] <shaun> i done what it said so
[12:09] <azazel00> !email
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> Anohaakten: What is the bin file for?
[12:10] <trabantas> how to connect to freenode trouth tor
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <Anohaakten> java
[12:10] <Anohaakten> so I can get into this chatroom when I am on linux
[12:10] <moonwatcher> ahm..
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> !java | Anohaakten
[12:10] <ubotu> Anohaakten: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:10] <HymnToLife> Anohaakten, not meaning to be rude but if you don't like the terminal, I think Ubuntu is not for you
[12:10] <Anohaakten> sigh
[12:10] <moonwatcher> i have a slightly better clue what is going on
[12:10] <bluefox83> Anohaakten, yes, there are several package managers available, but they don't handle .bin, all you need to do is make it executable with sudo chmod a+x   then do .sh File.bin
[12:10] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: jave is in repos just enable multiverse
[12:10] <moonwatcher> but still not enough to fix
[12:10] <happyface0> what do I use to share my printer with a windows system?
[12:10] <trabantas> is there working hidden server fot freenode?
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> Anohaakten: Um, why do you need java for irc?
[12:10] <erUSUL> !java > Anohaakten
[12:10] <moonwatcher> it seems i do not resolve dns
[12:10] <megafauna> Jowi: Hi, thanks for responding. When I open Synaptic it tells me "E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:10] <megafauna> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report."
[12:10] <crdlb> happyface0, is is plugged into ubuntu?
[12:10] <kelsin> !software > Anohaakten
[12:10] <Anohaakten> bluefox83, I have no idea waht you just said
[12:10] <sivik> how do you tell firefox what program to open for a certain download type
[12:10] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: you can use synaptic
[12:10] <megafauna> Also, whenever I sudo install something in the terminal
[12:10] <happyface0> crdlb what do you mean? its on a network through a router. this pc is ubuntu and the other is win. xp
[12:10] <megafauna> Jowi: Also, whenever I sudo install something in the terminal
[12:10] <Anohaakten> how do you do it in synaptic?
[12:10] <moonwatcher> i am connected to a router and when my /etc/resolve.conf has 192.168.1.1 in it it doesnt work
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> There's no reason to install from a bin file that I know of.  Follow directions from ubotu instead
[12:10] <bluefox83> Anohaakten, .bin files are not handled by package managers, you get to run it yourself
[12:10] <Jowi> megafauna, sounds about correct. virtualbox is not in the official repos. how did you install it in the first place?
[12:10] <sivik> Anohaakten, do what in synaptic?
[12:10] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: just install sun-java5-jdk (or jre)
[12:10] <Anohaakten> sigh
[12:10] <Jowi> !info virtualbox
[12:10] <ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:10] <trabantas> how to load wmvare for free
[12:10] <moonwatcher> even though a windows machine hooked up to the same network resolves dnses
[12:10] <Anohaakten> how do you install it ?!?!!??!?!?!?
[12:10] <erUSUL> !synaptic | Anohaakten
[12:10] <ubotu> Anohaakten: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:10] <crdlb> happyface0, where is the printer plugged in? the ubuntu machine? a printserver?
[12:10] <shatrat> Anohaakten, youre going about it the wrong way, you dont want to install from the .bin in the first place, more reading less punctuation
[12:10] <somian> Anyone know why "Terminal does not support AddHistory" using ubuntu's Perl/cpan
[12:10] <happyface0> crdlb its plugged into the Ubuntu machine
[12:10] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: use the packaged version as i told you
[12:10] <megafauna> Jowi: I d/l'd it from their site. I'm still having to boot into XP 1xday.
[12:10] <kelsin> Anohaakten: we've sent you lots of tells from ubotu, you shoudl read some of them, they tell you how to install software
[12:10] <kelsin> !software | Anohaakten
[12:10] <ubotu> Anohaakten: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[12:10] <DaveTarmac> hi there all.  does anyone know which resource 'phpmyadmin' resides in?
[12:10] <OBAR> connect poznan.ircnet.pl
[12:10] <trabantas> how to disable al system logs in ubuntu
[12:10] <megafauna> Jowi: Is there a fix?
[12:10] <moonwatcher> anyone can help with this networking issue?
[12:10] <Jowi> megafauna, I would suggest you uninstall it. "sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox" should do it.
[12:10] <Anohaakten> so basically, I have to type in lines upon lines of code in order to install a simple bin file
[12:10] <crdlb> happyface0, then you need to enable network printing in cups, then install the adobe postscript driver on the windows machine
[12:10] <Anohaakten> that is what I have read so far
[12:11] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, whats the problem?
[12:11] <megafauna> Jowi: I'm trying right now, brb
[12:11] <happyface0> thanks crdlb
[12:11] <shatrat> Anohaakten, or you could NOT USE THE .BIN like youve been told 10 times
[12:11] <kelsin> Anohaakten: have you read that software management page??? Obviously not
[12:11] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: thanks for the attensions
[12:11] <riqz> does network-manager-gnome work with all wireless cards
[12:11] <Hotkey> Cool - I'm runnning live cd - going thru install and have a question so I can just jump online because the live cd is - well - live!
[12:11] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: i am not really sure what is happening
[12:11] <kelsin> riqz: as long as it interfacse with the linux kernel normally yes (meaning there is a working driver for your card) yes
[12:12] <joshjosh> hotkey: what's your question?
[12:12] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, what are you trying to do? share a printer with a windows network?
[12:12] <megafauna> Jowi: I sent you my terminal output via PM
[12:12] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: i followed the instructions here: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:12] <KirbySaysHi> Hello all! I'm having some troubles with my mouse and keyboard freezing randomly; am I in the right spot to ask for help?
[12:12] <facugaich> I installed fglrx but now 2D rendering is slower... anyone got any idea?
[12:12] <Hotkey> joshjosh hi - I'm stumped at the "prepare partitions" questions
[12:12] <riqz> kelsin: so i install network manager and pray for it to work?hehe
[12:12] <crdlb> happyface0, I made a comment on digg describing the process on windows: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Step_by_Step_IPP_based_Print_Server_using_CUPS#c3861396
[12:12] <shatrat> facugaich, are you sure it's working? what does glxinfo | grep rendering say?
[12:12] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: no
[12:12] <erUSUL> Anohaakten: tha's not true you can do it without typing anything even better do not use the bin and install java through synaptic as i told you. it is in multiverse repository. it seems that you are not listening to anybody
[12:12] <joshjosh> !partitioning
[12:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:12] <trabantas> durneli, o tu cia ka veiki
[12:12] <kelsin> riqz: you make sure you have the write wireless drivers and that your card works first, if you can't connect with the command line tools then network manager is not going to work either
[12:12] <joshjosh> ehhh that didn't work.
[12:13] <Hotkey> joshjosh - my C drive is split in 2 - XP on hda1
[12:13] <somian> Anyone know why "Terminal does not support AddHistory" using ubuntu's Perl/cpan
[12:13] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: now i want to not use the speedtouch usb modem and hook up to my lan, which is using an adsl modem router
[12:13] <Q_Continuum> Why can't I "open" .torrent files? BitTorrent is installed (by default) but won't launch.  (File association doesn't seem to be there)
[12:13] <joshjosh> hotkey: I can't help you. I never partition. I just run straight linux
[12:13] <riqz> kelsin: ouch ok. Would you send me to the right place to get started? I need to get drivers for my wireless card?
[12:13] <moonwatcher> meaning addresses should be resolvable with 192.168.1.1 in /etc/resolve.conf
[12:13] <sivik> Q_Continuum, go into terminal/konsole and type btdownloadgui file.torrent
[12:13] <riqz> kelsin: how do i find out which drivers i need to have
[12:13] <facugaich> shatrat, yes, "direct rendering: Yes", 3D rendering works but 2D rendering is slower than with dapper's default driver
[12:13] <Hotkey> joshjosh install wants to put 2 things on next - / and swap and I think I want them both on HDA2??
[12:13] <moonwatcher> which is my router address
[12:13] <shatrat> Q_Continuum, try right clicking on a torrent file and going to Properties and you can change or add apps to open with
[12:13] <shatrat> facugaich, so by 2D do you mean video?
[12:14] <kelsin> riqz: "sudo iwconfig" in a terminal, does it list any interfaces that do have wireless support?
[12:14] <amb> damn, there a lot of peeps in here..
[12:14] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Hey there. Need some help?
[12:14] <Hotkey> joshjosh o ok - thx
[12:14] <Hotkey> anyone else help with partitions?
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> Ah...I'd installed Democracy and then removed it.  That had taken the ownership of that file-type.  *Figured it out now*
[12:14] <`nicola> is it possible to *create* a new keyboard shortcut instead of modifying them ? thanks
[12:14] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: if i put a public dns there it works
[12:14] <Hotkey> gyaresu ya!
[12:14] <moonwatcher> which is really wired
[12:14] <bluefox83> wow..uhm..i would un-do all the crap you did from that tutorial...
[12:14] <moonwatcher> windows machines on this network resolve dns queries
[12:14] <sivik> how do you tell firefox what program to open for a certain download type
[12:15] <facugaich> shatrat, moving windows and clicking on menus etc
[12:15] <kelsin> sivik: it's in the options, under the content tab
[12:15] <moonwatcher> bluefox83:  :) i wish i knew how...
[12:15] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Your / (root) and swap will be different partitions.
[12:15] <Hotkey> gyaresu install wants to put 2 things on next - / and swap and I think I want them both on HDA2??
[12:15] <Allen3373> erUSUL: you still there?
[12:15] <erUSUL> Allen3373: yes
[12:15] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, open up the stuff you edited..and remove the stuff you put in...
[12:15] <shatrat> facugaich, hmm, well I'm really not sure about that.  I dont use ati myself anymore for quite some time now.
[12:15] <moonwatcher> i think it boils down to this:
[12:15] <moonwatcher>  sudo install -m 744 dial /etc/init.d &&
[12:15] <moonwatcher> sudo ln -s ../init.d/dial /etc/rc2.d/S95dial &&
[12:15] <moonwatcher> sudo ln -sf ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[12:15] <sivik> kelsin, well, currently there is no program that opens that file type by default in firefox
[12:15] <sivik> how do i add it
[12:15] <gyaresu> Hotkey: So if you've already got xp on your drive the installer should see that and just bread up the rest for it's own use.
[12:16] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: make sense?
[12:16] <Hotkey> gyaresu seems rite to me but I dont know how to "answer" that way in the dialogue boxes here
[12:17] <sivik> nvm, i found it
[12:17] <riqz> kelsin: sent u a pm mate
[12:17] <kelsin> sivik: try to open the file, then select what you want it to do, then check the "do this every time" option
[12:17] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, wow..uhm..i've never used linux with a dsl modem before...pretty sure all you need to do is remove all that garbage and restart your network stuff..maybe even reboot..ubuntu will sort it out on it's own i think..then again like i said i've never used a dsl modem with linux...
[12:17] <Allen3373> erUSUL: Well, I tried installing the source kernal, and it did except it said it could't find some generic something. Then it wanted the same thing, the source kernal.
[12:17] <Hotkey> gyaresu i have to select 1 of the partitions and then "forward" so i'm selecting the NON xp partition - /dev/hda2
[12:17] <kelsin> riqz: you're all set man, just install network-manager-gnome and you should be fine
[12:17] <gyaresu> Hotkey: I only do text installs so I'm not sure what your seeing but you _crossfingers_ can probably just click 'yes'
[12:17] <riqz> kelsin: altho i would need it as an acces point
[12:17] <bcochofel> can I add some repository to install crossvc with apt-get?
[12:17] <kelsin> riqz: your driver is obviously working fine, it wouldn't list anything like that if you didn't have the right driver already set
[12:17] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Sounds right.
[12:17] <Allen3373> gyaresu: hey, I got ubuntu to install last night!
[12:17] <kelsin> riqz: wait you want to use your card as an access point?
[12:17] <erUSUL> Allen3373: try 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential'
[12:17] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, is the system in question being used as a desktop machine or a print server?
[12:18] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: i am begning to be sorry i did
[12:18] <marco__> hello
[12:18] <bcochofel> I'm getting a lot of dependencies
[12:18] <riqz> kelsin: indeed
[12:18] <gyaresu> Allen3373: Nice! What was it?
[12:18] <PCGenie> i am going to test the red5 samples, if i pop out, my server crashed
[12:18] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: laptop, work machine
[12:18] <kelsin> riqz: I don't have experience with that, look up the HostAP driver, I know it can do that, but I have no experience with it
[12:18] <KirbySaysHi> Is there a reason why my mouse and keyboard randomly freeze when I'm doing slightly higher-strain computing tasks? The only way to unfreeze them is to unplug and replug their usb connectors.
[12:18] <Allen3373> erUSUL: ok
[12:18] <riqz> kelsin: so network manager wont help
[12:19] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, you might just create a new network device.. like eth1 and let it find it's own settings or something..i'm really not familiar with dsl modems in linux, so i couldn't begin to figure it all out...
[12:19] <Allen3373> gyaresu: I entered the same parameters that made puppy work for me 'linux acpi=off'
[12:19] <Hotkey> gyaresu next page lists 2 "mount point" boxes and says must mount 1 on root and choose 1 for swap - in adjacent box are hda1 and hda2 in the drop down.
[12:19] <gyaresu> Allen3373: Told you so ;)
[12:19] <Allen3373> gyaresu: lol
[12:19] <sivik> kelsin: i set it to play them with xine but when ever i go to download, it doesn't fix it
[12:19] <_Krull_> I need help installing a theme I downloaded, it says "invalid file type" when I press install? HELP
[12:19] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: i would be happy with just going back to default
[12:19] <moonwatcher> whithout reinstalling everything :)
[12:20] <irunwithscissors> _Krull_ what theme manager are you using
[12:20] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, would you lose anything important if you just did a fresh install? cus...i don't think anyone here knows how to do this either and i'd hate for yout o miss out on work cus of it...
[12:20] <kelsin> sidewalk`: "it doesn't fix it" by that do you mean there wasn't an option to "DO this all the time for these" or you check that and nothing happens
[12:20] <_Krull_> the manager that came with Ubuntu
[12:20] <bluefox83> oh, wait a second..doesn't the ubuntu live cd have something that will repair a broken network interface?
[12:20] <kelsin> sidewalk`: sorry, wrong nick
[12:20] <irunwithscissors> ok
[12:20] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: well i just spent a whole day installing and configuring stuff :/
[12:20] <AlteredBeast> if joshjosh is still here, those options didn't work
[12:20] <irunwithscissors> one moment
[12:21] <Msword> moonwatcher: get used to it
[12:21] <AlteredBeast> i've tried every video option available on the start screen
[12:21] <shaun> josh josh if ur here whats that command for Nvidia
[12:21] <Msword> moonwatcher: i tried all yesterday to dual boot, still doesn't work
[12:21] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, you migh ttry connecting the laptop to the router, then popping in the ubuntu live cd and telling it to repair a broken installation..i believe it will fix your internet settings for you :D
[12:21] <moonwatcher> i have the dual boot :)
[12:21] <irunwithscissors> krull, place the tarbell of the theme file in your /usr/shar/themes folder, then try to open it with the theme manager
[12:21] <_Krull_> thanks  irunwithscissors
[12:21] <AlteredBeast> none of them makes a difference, they all go into the same messed up display
[12:22] <_Krull_> tarbell?
[12:22] <AlteredBeast> the resolution doesn't change at all, even when choosing "safe graphics mode"
[12:22] <bluefox83> Msword, just what is the problem with your dual boot setup?
[12:22] <irunwithscissors> the file before you unzipped it
[12:22] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Hey sorry. Right so could you open a terminal please and I'll get you to type a command in. I want to see the partitioning on the drive.
[12:22] <Xif> Hi. When I shutdown my computer, the Session Manager asks me if I'm sure I want to close programs that don't support sessions. How do I turn that off?
[12:22] <_Krull_> ok
[12:22] <kelsin> _Krull_: if the theme manager doesn't install it you might just want to try to find another one too, most themes will isntall perfectly just by draging the file onto the theme-manager
[12:22] <Hotkey> gyaresu ok
[12:22] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, do you get to take your lappy home? and do you have a router to hookto at home?
[12:23] <AlteredBeast> can anyone help getting video fixed when booting with a livecd (I think it is a old rage mobility)
[12:23] <moonwatcher> its really behaving wired, it works on my institute network
[12:23] <bcochofel> how can I install crossvc?
[12:23] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: ok, it worked on the institute, which is an open, mac filtered wireless.
[12:23] <terroris> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper and wireless drivers?
[12:23] <moonwatcher> no its my laptop
[12:23] <gyaresu> Hotkey: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[12:23] <Lars_G> Is there no easy way to temporarily stop hotplug?
[12:24] <moonwatcher> trying to move away from windows
[12:24] <LiENUS> my spoon is too big
[12:24] <bcochofel> terroris: I can try
[12:24] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Then pastebin the output please. (You only have the one drive right?
[12:24] <bluefox83> moonlite, is the router you are trying to work with at work wired or wireless?
[12:24] <Landon> Hey all, I have a quick question. How do I connect to a windows server using Samba?
[12:24] <moonwatcher> i am in cambridge uk and they really dont liek windows here
[12:24] <_Krull_> ok
[12:24] <Prometheum> Hello, I broke the whole kernel modules deal. Can anyone help me repair/restore it?
[12:24] <irunwithscissors> did it work krull?
[12:24] <moonwatcher> work: wireless, home tired both same behaviour
[12:24] <terroris> bcochofel: I have a linksys wireless card
[12:24] <cris> i need help with gaim emoticons
[12:24] <kelsin> Landon: the quick and easy way is to select "Network" from the Places menu in gnome (if you are running normal ubuntu), you should be able to browse the windows network like you could in windows
[12:24] <Hotkey> gyaresu rite - 1 drive - /dev/hda1   *           1        5122    41142433+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:24] <Hotkey>  and /dev/hda2            5123        7296    17462655    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:24] <terroris> bcochofel: can I just use my linksys drivers?
[12:25] <Lars_G> Landon: simplest way is: mount -t smb -o user=<login> //machine/share /mountpoint
[12:25] <bluefox83> moonlite, so..you use it for college, work and home?
[12:25] <gyaresu> !pastebin | Hotkey:
[12:25] <Hotkey> gyaresu darn - company and back door - will you be here a while?
[12:25] <ubotu> Hotkey:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:25] <bcochofel> terroris: from win32 right?
[12:25] <Lars_G> please? can I disable hotplug temporarily easily without damage and rebooting?
[12:25] <gyaresu> Hotkey: a little while. But there will be others.
[12:25] <kelsin> cris: #gaim might provide quicker help on that
[12:25] <Hotkey> sorry abd thx!
[12:25] <Allen3373> erUSUL: ok, that worked. I tried installing again, but now it says it couldn't process driverloader install. smoething about the dpkg install
[12:25] <Prometheum> Can someone help me at least mount an iPod with write capability so I can back up everything before reformatting?
[12:25] <bcochofel> terroris: take a look at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#5_-_Installing_the_Windows_Driver_for_NDISWrapper
[12:26] <Landon> kelsin: It doesn't work because for some reason, it's not specified, it won't let me access the windows network
[12:26] <Lars_G> Prometheum: is it MAC or Win formated?
[12:26] <moonwatcher> i have a feeling its this line:  sudo ln -sf ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[12:26] <moonwatcher> how do i "undo" it
[12:26] <Landon> Lars_G: I don't know the mountpoint
[12:26] <kelsin> Landon: if you install the right packages you can also use the smbmount commant to mount windows shares, I don't know the packages or the syntax atm :-(
[12:26] <shaun> does any 1 no the command 2 install nvidia drivers
[12:26] <moonlite> bluefox83: please don't write moonlite if you mean moonwatcher. :)
[12:26] <Lars_G> Landon: it's one you choose at random. /mnt should work
[12:26] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, that's just a forced symlink..
[12:26] <Prometheum> Can someone just tell me how to mount an iPod read/write? gargh, this channel is so unhelpful
[12:26] <erUSUL> Allen3373: whay don't you use plain ndiwrapper ??
[12:26] <bcochofel> where can I find repositories for ubuntu?
[12:26] <bluefox83> moonlite, oopsie, sorry >.>
[12:27] <Lars_G> Landon: but do it graphically like someone else told you
[12:27] <terroris> bcochofel: im not installing from win32
[12:27] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, all the places you want to use your lappy use wireless?
[12:27] <bcochofel> terroris: you lost me!
[12:27] <Landon> Lars_G: That doesn't work, it won't let me access the folder
[12:27] <Lars_G> Prometheum: go to hell imbecile
[12:27] <moonwatcher> oh, there is a moonlite
[12:27] <Allen3373> erUSUL: Allen=Linux noob=don't know what that is
[12:27] <bcochofel> terroris: what are you trying to do?
[12:27] <terroris> bcochofel: im running ubuntu only
[12:27] <irunwithscissors> hey now play nice
[12:27] <moonwatcher> was wondering why you kepts alternating :)
[12:27] <Prometheum> Lars_G: see, you'd rather tell me to f off than actually help me
[12:27] <kelsin> !attitude > Prometheum
[12:27] <bluefox83> cus tab = evil
[12:27] <Landon> Lars_G: smb:/// is not a valid location ||| That's the error I get
[12:28] <Prometheum> I want one simple line to mount an iPod read/write.
[12:28] <Lars_G> Prometheum: I tried to help you, i asked a question, instead of answering you told you just want to be told how to do it.
[12:28] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: yes
[12:28] <shaun> can some 1 help me
[12:28] <bcochofel> terroris: then take a look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7949
[12:28] <blueCommand> Good evening! I played around with /etc/localtime (setting it to UTC). After copying back my real zone (Europe/Stockholm) date still says UTC.
[12:28] <erUSUL> Allen3373: the same thing as driverloader but free (i asume you're trying to install this http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/install.php )
[12:28] <bluefox83> moonlite, when does it connect correctly? college, home, or work?
[12:28] <erUSUL> Allen3373: also some wifi chips do have linux drivers
[12:28] <erUSUL> !wifi > Allen3373
[12:28] <Allen3373> erUSUL: yes.. ok, so justs earch for that in google? (mine doesn't)
[12:28] <DaveTarmac> has anyone here managed to get phpmyadmin installed on edgy 6.10 (desktop)?
[12:28] <bcochofel> terroris: you can try to adapt the same tasks for ubuntu with linksys instead of broadcom
[12:29] <AlteredBeast> damn, oh well ... guess I have to go with fedora
[12:29] <shaun> how 2 install nvidia drivers in terminal
[12:29] <DaveTarmac> I have tried but it can't find the package
[12:29] <moonwatcher> mabye somethign to do with resolvconf package?
[12:29] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, why would you go with fedora?
[12:29] <terroris> bcochofel: yeah, Ill give it a shot
[12:29] <irunwithscissors> shaun: theres a really nice program called 'envy' that will automatically install nvidia drivers, look it up
[12:29] <erUSUL> Allen3373: what  is your wifi card/chip ??
[12:29] <Landon> What's the command to delete and reinstall a program?
[12:29] <shaun> kk ty
[12:29] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: because the video is totally borked when starting up the livecd
[12:30] <AlteredBeast> the screen is split into thirds
[12:30] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: works ok at work, doesn twork at home, not wireless and not wired
[12:30] <AlteredBeast> longways
[12:30] <bluefox83> Landon, just remove it with synaptic and then reinstall it...no commands needed
[12:30] <bcochofel> crossvc under ubuntu. Anyone?!
[12:30] <Allen3373> erUSUL: belkin wireless G USB adapter
[12:30] <moonwatcher> well kind of works, if i put a public dns in /etc/resolv.conf it works
[12:30] <AlteredBeast> and the 3rd panel is repeated twice (so I see no middle 1/3)
[12:30] <AlteredBeast> totally unusable
[12:30] <andrew13123> can anyone help me out, my updates stopped working, here's the pastebin.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8856/
[12:31] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, try the alternate installer cd...
[12:31] <AlteredBeast> bludfox: what's that?
[12:31] <b0b> does any body know anything about the company fastsilicon
[12:31] <dgx> Hi all :)
[12:31] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: I tried with these options: noapic nolapic
[12:31] <b0b> I was offered a job
[12:31] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, check out the ubuntu website, there are lots of different installer iso's to burn to cd..the alternate one does everything without a GUI
[12:32] <Malph> b0b:  yup boob jobs in 30 minutes
[12:32] <terroris> bcochofel: When I run the lspci code, I get: Network controller: Ralink: Unknow device
[12:32] <Evil_`> How can I change a file from read only?
[12:32] <andrew13123> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8856/
[12:32] <jake333> hi i need help configuring a apache2 server
[12:32] <erUSUL> Allen3373: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73#head-cfea35eda750890a23c58873b4183271cc3a650c
[12:32] <ugarit> I inserted a sony memory stick into my laptop's built in slot and /var/log/messages declares: tifm_7xx1: ms card detected in socket 2, but how do I read the contents on that stick?
[12:32] <dager> ugarit, check dmesg
[12:32] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: thanks for the suggestion, however, how come I tell it to boot at a specific resolution, or in safe graphics mode, or in any different resolution
[12:32] <Lord_Maynoth> this may be a dumb question
[12:32] <andrew13123> how can i fix this? "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libimgjpeg.so', which is also in package beryl-plugins-extra"
[12:32] <Lord_Maynoth> if you install from source how do uninstall?
[12:33] <bluefox83> ugarit, go to Places->Computer it'll be listed as a drive...
[12:33] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: and *every* time, it boots to 800x600 no matter what?
[12:33] <cris> can someone tell me how to move a file from terminal?
[12:33] <erUSUL> cris: man mv
[12:33] <AlteredBeast> maynoth: you need to check your Makefile ... there are occassionally remove targets
[12:33] <vexati0n> why... do none of my administrative programs accept my password?
[12:33] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[12:33] <andrew13123> cris, "mv from to"
[12:33] <ardchoille> Lord_Maynoth: Lots of devs put an uninstall code in the make file, so sometimes "sudo make uninstall" will work. If it doesn't work, you're on your own as far as getting it uninstalled.
[12:33] <SurfnKid> this is an odd question
[12:33] <b0b> no you idiot fast silicon does things like hardware review
[12:33] <shatrat> Lord_Maynoth, if you didnt delete the makefiles and stuff you can "make uninstall" i believe.  Otherwise have fun deleting manually
[12:33] <SurfnKid> but how can I keep my data from deteriorizing on a hard drive
[12:33] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, the alternate cd does everything from a terminal like interface..so resolution isn't that important..then once you get everything installed you can change your xorg.conf to use whatever resolution you want
[12:34] <irunwithscissors> vexation: are you using the root password?
[12:34] <SurfnKid> pictures, documents etc
[12:34] <cris> mv "file" form "location" to "new location" ?
[12:34] <bcochofel> terroris: try http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List and see if your card is listed
[12:34] <dager> Lord_Maynoth, in the future, use "checkinstall" when installing from source, so uninstalling can be done through apt-get/aptitude
[12:34] <ardchoille> Lorvija: And it wasn't a dumb question :)
[12:34] <ugarit> bluefox83: it's not listed! dager: dmesg shows the same content as /var/log/messages
[12:34] <CaptainMorgan> !rar
[12:34] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:34] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: okay, i'll give it a shot
[12:34] <AlteredBeast> thanks!
[12:34] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks for the info
[12:34] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, no prob
[12:34] <ardchoille> Lord_Maynoth: And it wasn't a dumb question :)
[12:34] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: are you sure there is no flag to just turn it off with full CD?
[12:34] <BUMBACL0T> so printer with no ethernet port can't be a network-printer ?
[12:34] <terroris> bcochofel: lol, im already there
[12:35] <trabantas> terroris: where
[12:35] <bcochofel> terroris: if it's not try to install anyway maybe you get lucky
[12:35] <fender> Hi, I just re-installed ubuntu for the 3th time, but again, when I try to log in, after a few seconds I get back to the login-screen.    I think it has something do do with my panels (I use gnome) which I like to set transparant, any suggestions?
[12:35] <bluefox83> ugarit, there is nothing listed in your computer thing along side your hard drive, your file system, and your cdrom and such?
[12:35] <bcochofel> terroris: I don't know that much about ndiswrapper, I only installed it once with debian for my broadcom
[12:35] <delire> fender: yes it's very likely your customisations playing up.
[12:36] <dager> fender, are you getting any error messages?
[12:36] <trabantas> how to set transparet shell in ubuntu
[12:36] <ugarit> bluefox83: no
[12:36] <fender> dager, , no, no errors
[12:36] <delire> fender: this has happened to a few other people here i've noticed.
[12:36] <drumline> fender: Ubuntu takes issue with your desktop background.  It' doesn't like p0rn.
[12:36] <bluefox83> AlteredBeast, i don't know..there is probably even something to tell it what resolution to use..i just don't remember what it is...
[12:36] <bcochofel> really need a repo with crossvc or lincvs!?
[12:36] <colbert> Hi, can someone please help me install GRUB on my SATA drive which has Vista ???
[12:36] <AlteredBeast> bluefox: yeah, in the boot menu, you can change it, but it doesn't seem to stick
[12:36] <AlteredBeast> that's what i was saying before
[12:37] <bcochofel> can I use debian repos with ubuntu?
[12:37] <fender> delight, any suggestions to solve it? (I really like my panels being transparant :D)
[12:37] <ardchoille> bcochofel: Not a good diea
[12:37] <erUSUL> bcochofel: short answer no
[12:37] <ardchoille> *idea
[12:37] <delire> fender: find where the settings are stored and then consider moving that directory to a new location from the command line. it's likely a dit directory (eg .name)
[12:37] <foxiness> hi,i can not find adobe reader "acrobat" on add/remove like on the past?
[12:37] <rlevitin> !vmware
[12:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[12:37] <Evil_`> Anyone know why when I type localhost into a brower after putting in pass and stuff, I get this?:  http://pastebin.ca/382875
[12:37] <trabantas> colbert: do vista -xp dual boot first
[12:37] <bluefox83> bcochofel, if you want to really furk up your system...it would just be easier to stick with ubuntu repos since they're more up to date than debian's
[12:37] <bcochofel> and where can I find crossvc repo?
[12:37] <ardchoille> bcochofel: The same goes for using debian .deb packages in Ubuntu
[12:37] <colbert> trabantas: What? Type that into terminal?
[12:38] <rlevitin> anyone here have information about vmware? I have XP set up on a VM Server but I am having some problems running games on it
[12:38] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: come to think of it, it behaves the same on both eth0 (wired) and eth1 (wireless)
[12:38] <moonwatcher> so i dont think its the card config
[12:38] <drumline> Running games on VMWare?!  heh...
[12:38] <trabantas> colbert: install vista with xp as dual boot and then grub above
[12:38] <rlevitin> drumline: is it possible?
[12:39] <moonwatcher> dhcp client is doing what it should do which is setting the dns to 192.168.1.1
[12:39] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, you say cambridge university in England is anti-windows?
[12:39] <foxiness> how can i install adobe reader on ubuntu?
[12:39] <moonwatcher> which for some reason doesnt work...
[12:39] <Doa`> hey
[12:39] <Doa`> out of interest
[12:39] <trabantas> foxiness: grab synaptic
[12:39] <bcochofel> ok, does anybody here has installed from source crossvc?
[12:39] <AlteredBeast> rlevitin: i don't think vmware is meant for gaming, not even sure 3D will work (and if it does, probably not well)
[12:39] <linxeh> bcochofel: i think its in feisty multiverse
[12:39] <colbert> trabantas: Well I had XP, here is my situation clearly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377054   plz see that
[12:39] <rlevitin> AlteredBeast: yeah that seems to be the problem... damn! thats the only reason i needed windows!
[12:39] <moonwatcher> bluefox83: well i wouldn't say anti, they are british.. :) but you will find here mostly OSX and debian
[12:40] <foxiness> i can not find it on "sudo apt-get install acroread" ,and the adobe.com not have .deb package
[12:40] <Msword> hey guys, quick easy question
[12:40] <AlteredBeast> rlevitin: dual boot?
[12:40] <moonwatcher> i work at the sanger and the whole network is debian
[12:40] <bluefox83> rlevitin, try wine
[12:40] <Msword> i need to backup 30gigs to install ubuntu to dual boot
[12:40] <CaptainMorgan> going to out on a limb here and guess that Rosetta Stone products will not work with Wine.....?
[12:40] <Msword> what is the easiest way to do this
[12:40] <moonwatcher> we have a whole floor full of debian geeks :)
[12:40] <dager> moonwatcher, you're at cambridge?
[12:40] <bcochofel> linxeh: sorry, what's the url?
[12:40] <rlevitin> yeah I have a dualboot, lol, I was just hoping I could VMWare Windoze and get rid of the XP partiton
[12:40] <Kisom> Msword: External harddrive or network.
[12:40] <AlteredBeast> Msword: get external disk drive
[12:40] <jexdawg> i am a failure at art in general, so i'd like to download a panel background image for ubuntu. what is a site that has "panel backgrounds" on it? like a ubuntu customization site, or some such thing. anyone know any?
[12:40] <bluefox83> moonwatcher, makes me want to move to england...
[12:40] <foxiness> trabantas: sudo apt-get install acroread not work?
[12:40] <Msword> m'kay
[12:40] <rlevitin> bluefox83: I'm not a fan of wine, it gives me beef when I try to set it up
[12:41] <Msword> i wonder if i got a long usb could i back it up to my other computer?
[12:41] <moonwatcher> dager: yeah
[12:41] <linxeh> bcochofel: packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/   or something
[12:41] <dager> moonwatcher, give them heat for not accepting my application because I dont have an EU Passport :(
[12:41] <bluefox83> rlevitin, how about cedega?
[12:41] <Msword> how would i go about backing everything up, i lost my reinstall disk
[12:41] <Lord_Maynoth> w000t its uninstalling
[12:41] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[12:41] <beoba> hey, i'm having issues with installing this package (and now it appears to have made apt flip out):
[12:41] <beoba> Setting up clamav-freshclam (0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1) ...
[12:41] <beoba> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam not found.
[12:41] <linxeh> bcochofel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/crossvc   it is for feisty though, not edgy
[12:41] <Kisom> Msword: Probaby, but a regular network connection is way easier.
[12:41] <irunwithscissors> jexdawg: you could get a theme from gnome-look.org
[12:41] <foxiness> trabantas: i can not find it on add/remove even when am enable universe repo
[12:41] <dager> :(
[12:41] <Msword> Kisom: my wireless is screwed up
[12:41] <beoba> (this is in edgy)
[12:41] <Msword> Kisom: i'm lazy and don't want to fix it :)
[12:41] <moonwatcher> oh
[12:41] <Msword> lol
[12:41] <rlevitin> bluefox83, i think you have to pay for cedega right?
[12:41] <moonwatcher> btw,
[12:41] <jexdawg> irunwithscissors: thanks, i'll check it out
[12:42] <moonwatcher> forgot to say i am using fiesty
[12:42] <linxeh> bcochofel: you can get the source packages here though http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/crossvc
[12:42] <beoba> or torrent it
[12:42] <Kisom> Msword: Don't you have a regular twister pair cable?
[12:42] <bluefox83> rlevitin, try their cvs, it's free ;)
[12:42] <Msword> Kisom: what?
[12:42] <moonwatcher> tough i think i had this issue before the upgrade
[12:42] <Evil_`> Anyone know why when I type localhost into a brower after putting in pass and stuff, I get this?:  http://pastebin.ca/382875
[12:42] <Kisom> Msword: Regular network-cable...
[12:42] <linxeh> rlevitin: yes, you have to pay for cedega. like 5 bucks a month or something
[12:42] <rlevitin> bluefox83, cvs is the development isn't it? I wouldn't know where to start :S
[12:42] <bcochofel> linxeh: the source I've downloaded from crossvc site but didn't get that to compile
[12:42] <Msword> Kisom: nope, i got me a usb though lol
[12:42] <AlteredBeast> linuxeh: I don't think he has said he has >1 CP
[12:42] <Lord_Maynoth> this is kinda fun to build stuff from source and get it to work
[12:42] <AlteredBeast> PC
[12:43] <_Krull_> irunwithscissors...you know you asked me to copy the theme file to /usr/share/themes......well I tryed and it said "you don't have permission to copy to this folder"
[12:43] <bcochofel> linxeh: anyway, thanks, I'll give it a try
[12:43] <irunwithscissors> ok
[12:43] <gbertek> does anyone use obsidian?
[12:43] <irunwithscissors> then do it as root
[12:43] <linxeh> AlteredBeast: how do you mean ?
[12:43] <bluefox83> rlevitin, i think there's a tutorial someplace about how to install their stuff via cvs...it's pretty straight forward..those bastards owe me money cus i paid for a year of service and they never gave me the freakin binaries to install...
[12:43] <Msword> Kisom: how would i go about backing up everything on the hard drive?
[12:43] <Kisom> Msword: Well, either fix your WiFi or get an external drive then. And 30 GiB over WiFi... Well, I wouldn't do ut.
[12:43] <AlteredBeast> linuxeh: if he doesn't have a 2nd PC to back up to, what's a network cable going to do for him?
[12:43] <_Krull_> ok
[12:43] <Kisom> Msword: I would just put it onto another drive.
[12:43] <b0b> can I upgrade to ubuntu edgy from synaptic package manager
[12:44] <erUSUL> !upgrade | b0b
[12:44] <ubotu> b0b: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:44] <jexdawg> irunwithscissors: were you referring to a metacity theme? what exactly were you specifying?
[12:44] <yonilevy> Q: is there a way to record in "tvtime"?
[12:44] <Msword> Kisom: i'm gonna go buy a external hd then, how would i go about backing up the whole thing, not just individual files?
[12:44] <OmegaNine> !Beryl
[12:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:44] <yonilevy> or some other way to record bttv (tv card)
[12:44] <irunwithscissors> jexdawg: yes, metacity.
[12:44] <bjames> hi all - I was posted a link here that I've now lost.  It's a page on the ubuntu documentation that has details of how to overwrite the MBR
[12:44] <bjames> anyone know it?
[12:44] <happyface0> how can I find my routers netmask?
[12:45] <linxeh> bjames: using grub?
[12:45] <Kisom> Msword: If you want to back up your O/S, bootfiles etc you'll need to create a ghost image of your harddrive. You can use Norton Ghost or similar software to do that.
[12:45] <linxeh> happyface0: it is probably 255.255.255.0
[12:45] <Msword> is there some similar free program that i can use safely?
[12:45] <linxeh> happyface0: for a typical home network anyway
[12:45] <linxeh> Msword: yes, dd
[12:45] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | Msword
[12:45] <bjames> linexh: ubuntu so I think so yes
[12:45] <ubotu> Msword: SystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[12:46] <bjames> linexh: I've typed grub at the command line
[12:46] <ardchoille> Msword: I use PartImage to back up my partitions, it's fast and easy to use.
[12:46] <txete> ubuntu espaol
[12:46] <ardchoille> #ubuntu-es
[12:46] <erUSUL> !es > txete
[12:46] <LiENUS> !es | txete
[12:46] <ubotu> txete: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:46] <bjames> linexh: do you know the ubuntu grub page?
[12:47] <Msword> ardchoille: good, i already got the cd so that shouldn't be hard
[12:47] <Msword> ty :)
[12:47] <erUSUL> ubotu tell bjames about grub | bjames see priv msg from ubotu
[12:47] <gkellycs> question, how do i know hwat type of fuse i have?
[12:47] <gkellycs> fuse 2.6
[12:47] <gkellycs> or whatever
[12:47] <gkellycs> How would i find that out?
[12:47] <jake_> hello guys im kubuntu user, i want to change it to ubuntu. i marked the "ubuntu desktop" in the sypnatic, and then when i try to boot my comp to gnome only the brown backround appears
[12:47] <ardchoille> Msword: Yeah, just boot into it (fb1024) and do the mount stuff. then run partimage
[12:48] <bjames> erUSUL: cheers
[12:48] <bjames> that be the one
[12:48] <Evil_`> if i'm behind a router, do I need to portforward something for lampp to work ?
[12:48] <gumby600m> Hi.  I use thunderbird in windows and ubuntu.  I'm looking for some sort of applet that will notify me in the taskbar (i.e. next to the clock) when I get an email message.  Are there any packages in ubuntu for this???
[12:48] <gkellycs> does anyone now how to find out what type of "Fuse" you have on Ubuntu?
[12:48] <AlteredBeast> Evil_: to be visible to the world, then likely
[12:48] <Evil_`> Any idea which port?
[12:48] <Evil_`> 80?
[12:49] <panfist> anyone familiar with broadcom 43xx wireless PCI adapters?
[12:49] <professor> hey guys, I was wondering, I am having a problem with "wine" giving me an error, I have relaoded it , and all still same message
[12:49] <crdlb> Evil_`, for a webserver yes
[12:49] <AlteredBeast> Evil_: yep, http is 80
[12:49] <irunwithscissors> professor: what's the error?
[12:49] <Evil_`> ok, thanks
[12:49] <Landon> Hey all, how do I configure Samba to locate windows networks?
[12:49] <professor> was wondering how would I reinstall the UBUNTU packages with out losing all my data
[12:49] <duckdown> Hey all, question here :)  I am connecting a colo box, using ssh -X (X forwarding) from my laptop here in Ubuntu.  I can run things like 'firefox' and other GUI/X11 executables just fine, but when I do a 'startx' and try to get into a WM, it appears to be running and no (EE) errors show up, but my WM window never pops open.  When I CTRL+C it says killing connection to 0:0 so it THINKS its working.  What can I do?
[12:49] <jake_> please guys help
[12:49] <professor> error 6006
[12:49] <professor> says please close other programs running and start setup again
[12:50] <crdlb> jake_, do you have a failsafe gnome session choice?
[12:50] <professor> irun you there
[12:50] <professor> how do I get peoples namees in red
[12:50] <professor> to talk to them
[12:50] <crdlb> professor, type their nick in your message
[12:51] <tim167> please help, i've done this so many times, and still, yet once again i run into trouble: installed nvidia driver using apt-get install nvidia-glx, but xserver wont start, can anyone pastebin a good xorg.conf example ? thanks!
[12:51] <professor> irunwithscissors did you get hte rest of my message
[12:51] <apokryphos> tim167: did you follow the instructions on the faq?
[12:51] <apokryphos> !faq
[12:51] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[12:52] <tim167> apokryphos: actually i tried ENVY first but it failed
[12:52] <wubrgamer> hey guys...
[12:52] <wubrgamer> i'm running gtk-gnutella
[12:52] <apokryphos> tim167: what's that?
[12:52] <jake_> crdlb: no i just click the gnome, i uninstall and reinstalled it but nothing happens
[12:52] <Landon> Hey all, how do I configure Samba to locate windows networks?
[12:53] <wubrgamer> and i can't connect to anything ! i have my wrt54g (eeck) forwarding ALL ports to my ubuntu machine, and netstat says that my box is running the services
[12:53] <shatrat> tim167, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8859/ there's mine if you want to look at it.  keep in mind some settings will be different
[12:53] <professor> anyone know about "wine " errors
[12:53] <Allen3373> erUSUL: ok, tried to install ndiswrapper, but it's not working. I looked in the install file and it gave me a line to type in, I did, but it tells me the file doesn't exit. it's on my desktop, and that's what my terminal prompt is in
[12:53] <tim167> apokryphos: envy is an automated nvidia installer, should make life easy, it did work on 2 other machines, but now this time it doesnt...
[12:53] <jake_> crdlb: oh i think i have failsafe, sorry
[12:53] <tronica> what is the wine error
[12:53] <professor> the program "wine"
[12:53] <Kickaha> Evening, all. Is anyone willing to help a new guy who has shot himself in the foot with Ubuntu/Samba networking?
[12:53] <infidel> professor, i would go to #winehq they are pretty good for suport there
[12:53] <apokryphos> tim167: it's one command -- how much more can you simplify things?
[12:53] <tronica> what error are you getting
[12:54] <apokryphos> hm, h.u.c is down I see :/
[12:54] <tim167> sharat thanks
[12:54] <erUSUL> Allen3373: follow the guide i gave you the last one...
[12:54] <erUSUL> Allen3373: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73#head-cfea35eda750890a23c58873b4183271cc3a650c
[12:54] <Landon> Hey all, how do I configure Samba to locate windows networks?
[12:54] <Allen3373> erUSUL:ok thanks
[12:54] <AlteredBeast> Kickaha: just describe your prob
[12:54] <apokryphos> ubotu: samba
[12:54] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:54] <erUSUL> Allen3373: that, there are a native linux driver fot your wifi usb
[12:55] <AlteredBeast> ubotu: pastebin
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <tim167> apokryphos, well sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx did work for one session, i rebooted and now its gone, btw, see http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717 for 'envy'
[12:55] <Darth_Tux> hi all, anyone know why my cpu MHZ would be 800.000 with a 1.86Ghz processor according to /proc/cpuinfo?
[12:56] <apokryphos> tim167: you also need to enable the driver, with... a command that I forget. It's on the wiki.
[12:56] <Landon> ubotu: linneighborhood
[12:56] <ubotu> linneighborhood: An SMB network browser for Linux and X11.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.5-4 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 656 kB
[12:56] <Kickaha> Okay. I have two machines, one windowsXP, one Ubuntu6.06. I had them networked together and working fine. I appeared to have screwed things up while adding a laptop. Windows can still see the shared directories on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu cannot see the Windows network.
[12:56] <dgx> !chmod
[12:56] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:56] <Allen3373> erUSUL: There are?
[12:56] <shatrat> tim167, nvidia-xconfig generates an xorg for nvidia
[12:57] <tronica> Darth_Tux: you need to disable cpu scaling
[12:57] <Kickaha> When trying to open the windows network, that's as far as it gets - the "windows network" icon. Clicking on that simply opens an empty window.
[12:57] <Kickaha> (i feel particularly stupid - I don't even know what I did to screw things up..)
[12:57] <Darth_Tux> tronica, how do i so that and what results?
[12:57] <tronica> Darth_Tux: right click on the task bar, then add cpu scaling applet and then right click the applet and go from there
[12:58] <erUSUL> Allen3373: there is* sorry i'm spanish my english is poor
[12:58] <Darth_Tux> ty
[12:58] <Allen3373> erUSUL: No problem man. Do you possibly have a link?
[12:58] <AlteredBeast> Kichaha: you might try the samba help
[12:58] <kevin> hello
[12:58] <AlteredBeast> ubotu: samba
[12:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:58] <erUSUL> Allen3373: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73#head-cfea35eda750890a23c58873b4183271cc3a650c
[12:58] <p47> hello !
[12:58] <kevin> im having trouble with themes
[12:58] <kevin> can someone help me
[12:58] <globe> can anybody by chance tell me where the gnome autostart file is? I cant start gnome and I think that its because kiba-dock just updated and it starts automatically.
[12:58] <tronica> kevin: more info
[12:59] <professor> I cant find the answer I need in "winehq"website
[12:59] <professor> can someone help
[12:59] <tronica> professor: what error are you getting
[12:59] <professor> I am getting a 6006 error message
[12:59] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:00] <infidel> tronica, right clicking just shows the graphical setup of the applet
[01:00] <Allen3373> erUSUL: I'm not seeing anything for Belkin on that page
[01:00] <Kickaha> I've tried, Alter. :(
[01:00] <kevin> tronica , i had installed a gtk theme from gnome look.org, but i reinstalled today and the file i needed "gtk2-engine-pixbuf is no longer found by synaptix
[01:00] <professor> saying set up has experienced an error
[01:01] <Kickaha> I have NO idea what I'm doing, or why Ubuntu can't see the windows machine.
[01:01] <infidel> professor, not the website but the irc channel #winehq
[01:01] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:01] <Hotkey> gyaresu still here?
[01:01] <helmut> Hi. Just a note from my experience: If Ubuntu ever wants to become a popular distribution, it should for sure display big fat whole-screen warnings on *each* login if the user is not updating his software in a way that these warnings can only be disabled by editing a configfile!
[01:01] <regeya> I just have to say how sad I am the ppc port was made unsupported, especially one week after I set up a G4 as a fileserver using 6.06 LTS Server :->
[01:01] <erUSUL> Allen3373: your belkin is using a ralink 73 chip.... you can chaeck it with the 'lsusb' command
[01:01] <professor> hmmm where do I go for that
[01:01] <OmegaNine> !xgl
[01:01] <Fuzzehskittle1> helmut ur a moron
[01:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <professor> Im really a noob
[01:01] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:01] <erUSUL>  Allen3373 my card is conceptronic and uses a ralink 2500 chip
[01:01] <kevin> tronica , i had installed a gtk theme from gnome look.org, but i reinstalled ubuntu today and the file i needed "gtk2-engine-pixbuf is no longer found by synaptix
[01:01] <infidel> professor, type /j #winehq
[01:02] <zapradon> I use dvorak kb layout, and when I installed edgy, it was fine, then I installed beryl..and now the dvorak layout is missing at logon--it shows up fine after it starts tho
[01:02] <helmut> Fuzzehskittle1: why? It seems to be the only way to convice users that security updates are important ...
[01:02] <tronica> kevin: give me just a sec, looking....
[01:02] <zapradon> how does that work?
[01:02] <kevin> tnks
[01:02] <regeya> seriously, the only thing people have really noticed is that the OS 8.x/9.x clients have trouble saving view info, otherwise people are blisfully unaware that netatalk is serving up files from an ext3 partition...excellent...thanks to this I could ditch ASIP without pirating a $1000+ server OS product
[01:02] <shatrat> helmut, some people dont have internet connections for one thing
[01:02] <raven3x7> ralink has good drivers usually
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[01:02] <Fuzzehskittle1> u sed if it ever wants to become popular, its one of the most popular
[01:02] <tim167> ok, seems like the new version of ENVY is broken, the older one which is on http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717 works here
[01:02] <helmut> shatrat: ok. the internet connection could be checked first.
[01:02] <regeya> indeed, ubuntu is quite popular.
[01:03] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:03] <raven3x7> im trying to get a game to run that is not in the appdb at all. its called The moment of Silence and im running the latest binary on Ubuntu 64bit
[01:03] <helmut> Fuzzehskittle1: popular should be roughly 10% market share or more.
[01:03] <Hotkey> Can I get a little help with partition selections during install?
[01:03] <Fuzzehskittle1> helmut, on the dis page its the first 1 on the list
[01:03] <raven3x7> when i run it i get this error in a windows box: " error in module filesystem. Reading resource map file failed."
[01:03] <Allen3373> erUSUL: oh, ok
[01:03] <Fuzzehskittle1> with the most downloads
[01:03] <shatrat> helmut, and why bother?  It is easy to update and updates are checked during install, the option to automatically update is in the install, and have you seen most of the security updates? theyre pretty much all for DOS bugs and other minor security problems.
[01:03] <helmut> Fuzzehskittle1: windows is in front ... ;-)
[01:04] <Fuzzehskittle1> and?
[01:04] <shatrat> helmut, I have a professor that is running an ancient redhat box that hasnt even been rebooted in years
[01:04] <raven3x7> Wine binary tha is
[01:04] <Fuzzehskittle1> then go to windows noob
[01:04] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:04] <kat> hello, i'm using a hama s1 gaming mouse in gnome 2.16.1 and i cant get the side button (forward button) work. back button works. this is not a microsoft intellimouse.
[01:04] <helmut> shatrat: the problem is not that it is too difficult but the user is too dumb. The distribution should force unexperienced users to update their systems.
[01:04] <Fuzzehskittle1> how do i run enemy territory
[01:05] <cafuego_> !repeat > Fuzzehskittle1
[01:05] <tronica> kevin: try installing gtk2-engines-pixbuf, seems its engines not engine
[01:05] <happyface0> download ET linux then sh the installer
[01:05] <shatrat> helmut, you can't cure stupidity.  Those people will click on things that say "You have spyware! click here to install super duper spyware remover 2009!" and email their CC numbers to nigeria
[01:05] <Fuzzehskittle1> sh installer?
[01:05] <shatrat> helmut, trying to cure stupidiity only annoys real users
[01:05] <helmut> shatrat: I didn't believe that until I saw it. There are users permanently ignoring update messages.
[01:05] <Fuzzehskittle1> i downloed et linux but idk wut to do next
[01:05] <kevin> i cant find anything close to it by synaptic
[01:05] <gordonjcp> Fuzzehskittle1: yup
[01:05] <happyface0> just type sh etlinux or wahtever in terminal to install it once its downloaded
[01:05] <Azrael1> Hey, can I get some help installing scanner backends?
[01:05] <gordonjcp> Fuzzehskittle1: open a terminal, and type in "sudo sh ~/Desktop/et<TAB>"
[01:06] <tronica> kevin: ok, let me see if i can find a .deb for you
[01:06] <helmut> shatrat: It's not about curing stupidity but limiting colateral damage.
[01:06] <gyaresu> Hotkey: hey.
[01:06] <kevin> tronica I founf one but it does not work properly
[01:06] <Hotkey> gyaresu rehi
[01:06] <Hotkey> gyaresu you have time?
[01:06] <Krull_away> irunwithscissors........you still here?
[01:06] <Crash_SE> Is there a good support for virtual hosting and configs for that in Ubuntu?
[01:06] <tronica> kevin: do you have the extra repos enabled
[01:06] <Fuzzehskittle1>  /home/overburdened2142/.setup1428: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:06] <Fuzzehskittle1> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[01:06] <Fuzzehskittle1> See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting
[01:06] <kevin> um, not sure
[01:07] <gyaresu> Hotkey: quickly pastebing the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[01:07] <tronica> kevin: let me find you a link
[01:07] <kevin> ok
[01:07] <Fuzzehskittle1> jelp gordon :(
[01:07] <gyaresu> Hotkey: And you only have the one hard drive right?
[01:07] <Latitude^> what will happen if i delete my swap partition? i think i have enough onboard ram to handle the job...
[01:07] <infidel> kevin, what package are you looking for?
[01:07] <Helio> Latitude^: swapinfo
[01:07] <Hotkey> gyaresy 1 hard rdrive is rite
[01:07] <Hotkey> Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
[01:07] <Hotkey> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
[01:07] <Hotkey> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:07] <Hotkey>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:07] <Hotkey> /dev/hda1   *           1        5122    41142433+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:07] <Hotkey> /dev/hda2            5123        7296    17462655    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[01:07] <tronica> kevin: piece of cake follow this, then retry the package  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:07] <Helio> if you aren't using it, ada
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> Hey, I'm trying to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto, but the part about making the floppy from the image is for Windows.  How do I do it in Linux?
[01:07] <gordonjcp> Fuzzehskittle1: that's a bit odd
[01:07] <Helio> nada
[01:07] <Fuzzehskittle1> gordon do u no
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> !paste | Helio
[01:07] <ubotu> Helio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <gyaresu> !pastebin Hotkey
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin hotkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <shatrat> helmut, ubuntu is not "software for the lowest common denominator"  If people arent updating that is their problem.
[01:08] <Fuzzehskittle1> o
[01:08] <gyaresu> !pastebin | Hotkey
[01:08] <ubotu> Hotkey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <kevin> i had installed gtk2-engines-pixbuf, from syanaptic, after i reinstall todeay i cant find it
[01:08] <gordonjcp> Fuzzehskittle1: ... and you've got X running properly, yeah?
[01:08] <Fuzzehskittle1> well, when i downloaded it was i spose to save to disc or open with the thing
[01:08] <Allen3373> erUSUL: the links for the drivers won't work, so which one do I want? http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[01:08] <tronica> kevin: reinstall, meaning you reinstalled ubuntu
[01:08] <Fuzzehskittle1> wut is X?
[01:08] <scuderia>  hi, how do i connetc to a open wireless without password? Does iwconfi essid netwrokname is enoguht?
[01:08] <kevin> tronica thanks ill try iy
[01:08] <Messenjah> hello
[01:08] <nero> Is anyone here familiar with autofs and NFS shares?  I have an NFS share that is shared as RW to this machines IP address.  I am using autoFS to mount it at /media/music (it is my LAN's music server).  Problem is, it will only mount with read access, not RW.  Any ideas?  (in my auto.misc file I have specified the -rw option for this mount)
[01:08] <gyaresu> Hotkey: So whatever you do don't select hda1 for / or swap...
[01:08] <knovak> Quick question: When I boot, that neat Ubuntu boot splash isnt showing up. I've installed/reconfigured usplash. Does it have to do with my GRUB boot options (all I know is "quiet" comes after the boot image)
[01:09] <helmut> shatrat: The problem is that people think they can use a computer although they cannot. What happens is the same as when people without a drivers license try to drive a car: They break it. Unfortunately Ubuntu seems to be one of those cars that users think to be easy to drive. So to limit colateral damage the distribution should be either made more difficult or self-updating without user intervention ...
[01:09] <shatrat> Fuzzehskittle1, read this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246
[01:09] <Fuzzehskittle1> k
[01:09] <Hotkey> gyaresu LOL thats what I thought!
[01:09] <gyaresu> Hotkey: It should give you the option to repartition. Does it?
[01:09] <Azrael1> Guys anyone knows how to install scanner backends for XSane?
[01:10] <Messenjah> can someone give me a hand with installing a modem ...... I know its a modem but some people stil live in the dark ages of the internet!
[01:10] <Hotkey> gyaresu aha ok yes I see that icon to creat a new 1 - so I should "split" the 2nd one eh?
[01:11] <infidel> !modem
[01:11] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:11] <Messenjah> !modem
[01:11] <gyaresu> Hotkey: If not then you can use gparted to manually partition /dev/hda2 to make some room for (at the least) / /boot and swap
[01:11] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Indeed. Go forth with the splitting.
[01:11] <Hotkey> gyaresu actually it reads like i should make 2 new ones - 1 for root with min of 2 gb and 1 for swap with min of 256 k?
[01:12] <Barakk> list
[01:12] <Messenjah> thank you but I've read that already and being windows dependent for so long, it's like greek to me.
[01:12] <valenceorbit> Did anyone else have to re-import their package authentication keys after a big apt update?  Every new package that I go to install now says "not authenticated"...
[01:12] <Hotkey> gyaresu it says it wants the 2 GB for root - "/"
[01:12] <Lord_Maynoth> if I have a program that I must run sudo first how do I make a laucher for that?
[01:12] <K3nto> !mount
[01:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:12] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Automatically should be fine. you can have /boot and /home on separate but it's fine for a desktop machine.
[01:12] <marshall> does anybody know where i should look for a beginner guide to programming c++ in ubuntu? anything i should know?
[01:12] <crdlb> Lord_Maynoth, gksu
[01:12] <K3nto> !DiskMounter
[01:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:13] <Crash_SE> Anyone with Ubuntu-server experiance? I'm looking for virual hosting info..
[01:13] <gyaresu> Hotkey: Sounds like you're good. Ok if I go to work now :)
[01:13] <Flannel> marshall: C++ in linux is the same as C++ anywhere else.
[01:13] <K3nto> !iso
[01:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:13] <Beverage> hey is there anything in specific that i have to do to get the most out fo my video card ? I have installed invidia drivers...
[01:13] <Hotkey> gyaresu LOL ya man - thx!
[01:13] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[01:13] <kevin> tronica yes i reinstalled ubuntu, got the updates then went looking for that file
[01:13] <Lord_Maynoth> crdlb, thanks
[01:13] <tronica> kevin: sounds like you don't have the required repo for that package
[01:13] <Rynoo> anyone have an x335 with dual xeon procs? preferably a 2x
[01:13] <tronica> i see on mine
[01:13] <scuderia>  hi, how do i connetc to a open wireless without password? Does iwconfi essid netwrokname is enoguht?
[01:14] <marshall> Flannel, so if i follow a guide on the internet intended for windows, everything will work exactly the same?
[01:14] <kevin> tronica, maybe it was somneting i downloaded first, but didnt this time
[01:14] <infidel> Lord_Maynoth, right click on the launcher icon and on d the launcher tab enter your command with sudo first
[01:14] <tronica> kevin: thats possible, did you try adding those repos off that link
[01:14] <Flannel> marshall: er, follow a guide on the internet for C++.  If you've found a guide with windows specific stuff (API calls, or whatever), obviously that'll be different, but C++ is C++.
[01:14] <kevin> nope reading it , brb
[01:14] <Flannel> !anyone | Crash_SE
[01:14] <ubotu> Crash_SE: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:14] <K3nto> gyaresu: what does the mount point have to be?
[01:15] <ulteriord> I just installed a bunch of updates (been using windows lately) and now all my audio playback is playing about 2x faster than it should. Help?!?!
[01:15] <plyskin> hello
[01:16] <dimitri> heya all
[01:16] <Crash_SE> Is there a GUI (ssh or http/shttp) interface for configuring virtual hosts and DNS?
[01:16] <SicksPack> Can anyone tell me how to get java working in firefox
[01:16] <Flannel> !java | SicksPack
[01:16] <ubotu> SicksPack: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:16] <mne> hi. anyone familiar with cacti ? mine seesm to receive snmp data, but the generated traffic graph always shows zero traffic
[01:16] <dimitri> I'm looking for a decent dock for ubuntu, can anyone point me to a good one?
[01:16] <Allen3373> erUSUL: did you catch my message about which driver to download?
[01:16] <infidel> Crash_SE, did you try webadmin?
[01:17] <plyskin> Does anyone have experience with a Sil3124 sata card in Ubuntu?
[01:17] <Zampaktu> hello, does anybody know the name of the  feisty channel
[01:17] <dimitri> !dock
[01:17] <Crash_SE> infidel: something like that, yes.
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <utilisateur> hi evervy one, having problems compiling every thing
[01:17] <rbil> Zampaktu: #ubuntu+1
[01:17] <utilisateur> cannot create executables..
[01:18] <Crash_SE> infidel, sorry... I was reading to many channels. No, havn't tried...
[01:19] <utilisateur> in a fresh ubuntu install
[01:19] <Flannel> utilisateur: grab 'build-essential'
[01:19] <Kronuz> what's the difference between beryl and Xgl? do I need Xgl to run Beryl?
[01:19] <ulteriord> Why do all my mp3's sound like the chipmunks? They're playing about 2x faster than they should be!
[01:19] <Flannel> Kronuz: #ubuntu-effects for beryl/xgl questions
[01:19] <utilisateur> Flannel: already did
[01:20] <Kronuz> thanks Flannel
[01:20] <utilisateur> got the dpkg-dev too
[01:20] <knovak> Quick question: When I boot, that neat Ubuntu boot splash isnt showing up. I've installed/reconfigured usplash. Does it have to do with my GRUB boot options (all I know is "quiet" comes after the boot image)
[01:20] <plyskin> Im having problem getting Ubuntu to see all 5 hardrives in my 5 drive tower. I have a sil3124 chipset sata PCI-X card. Ubuntu sees only the first drive in the bay. I have a feeling its a port replicator prob but Im too new to linux...anyone?
[01:20] <Flannel> utilisateur: build-essential is enough.  You sure you're still getting the same error?
[01:20] <Crash_SE> infidel: Does that include most things needed for virtual hosting (userconf, virthost, DNS, ftpconf and more)?
[01:20] <utilisateur> Flannel: yes
[01:21] <john_> hey guys, does anyone know how to make the wireless connection show up in the network manager (Ive installed my Wireless using ndiswrapper already)
[01:21] <_Krull_> I need help  copying a folder with themes in it to /usr/share/themes......I tryed in terminal and it wouldn't and draged it it would copy what do I do?    HELP
[01:21] <gumby600m> I'm using mail-notification in ubuntu 6.10, but it will not detect new messages even though Mozilla-thunderbird has no problem with it.  I've ensured the settings are identical between mail-notification and thunderbird... anyone have any ideas of how to troublehsoot this?
[01:21] <Dekkard> you need to sudo prolly
[01:21] <Lord_Maynoth> Is there a command like sudo that gives my account admin privileges without running the program as root?
[01:22] <ulteriord> Why do all my mp3's sound like the chipmunks? They're playing about 2x faster than they should be!
[01:22] <b0ri5> how do I install communication programs like hamfax or multimon or qsstv? I have already downloaded the packages.
[01:22] <infidel> Crash_SE, i believe so, check it out http://webmin.com/
[01:22] <DigitalNinja> _Krull_ : You need to use sudo
[01:22] <_Krull_> I am too lame to know how to do it
[01:22] <Freeman> does anyone here know how to get an Intel Pro/Wireless 3945 to work on edgy? and if so could you pm me and walk me through it
[01:22] <ulteriord> Why do all my mp3's sound like the chipmunks? They're playing about 2x faster than they should be!
[01:22] <Dekkard> b0ri5 click on it and it will ask if you want to install with gdebi
[01:23] <thread> fckuf
[01:23] <Crash_SE> thx infidel
[01:23] <b0ri5> how do I do that?
[01:23] <apokryphos> !ohymy | thread
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohymy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <Dekkard> right click on the .deb file
[01:23] <K3nto> !mounr
[01:23] <_Krull_> can you hel me DigitalNinja
[01:23] <infidel> Crash_SE, no problem
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <K3nto> !mount
[01:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:23] <knovak> To install Beryl, do I need to install the nvidia-glx driver, or can I continue using the legacy driver?
[01:23] <b0ri5> what .deb file? I am a newbie to linux
[01:23] <K3nto> !iso
[01:23] <Flannel> utilisateur: And whats the exact error message?
[01:24] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:24] <K3nto> what is the mount point supposed to be?
[01:24] <Flannel> !deb | b0ri5
[01:24] <ubotu> b0ri5: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:24] <marshall> Flannel, my howto says i need a compiler, anjuta is a compiler right?
[01:24] <ulteriord> All my audio and video is like it's on a 2x fast forward. I just finished updating like 83 packages. Can anyone help?
[01:24] <Flannel> K3nto: whereever you want the CD to sit
[01:24] <Flannel> marshall: no, gcc is a compiler.  Anjuta is an IDE
[01:24] <infidel> marshall, no it's an ide
[01:24] <utilisateur> Flannel: cannot create executables
[01:24] <K3nto> Flannel: just the desktop will work?
[01:24] <Flannel> utilisateur: theres more than just that in the error message
[01:24] <ulteriord> All my audio and video is like it's on a 2x fast forward. I just finished updating like 83 packages. Can anyone help?
[01:24] <b0ri5> so I do this from the package manager?
[01:25] <Dekkard> ulteriord i have no clue
[01:25] <plyskin> can I use a driver written for red hat in ubuntu? sorry.... WAY new to linux
[01:25] <_Krull_> can you help me DigitalNinja
[01:25] <Flannel> K3nto: make it a new folder.  So, on your desktop make a folder "mydisk" then mount to ~/Desktop/mydisk/
[01:25] <marshall> Flannel, infidel: ok, when i want to compile my c++, what do i do?
[01:25] <K3nto> kk
[01:25] <Flannel> plyskin: technically yes.  It's not a good idea though.  Try and find a deb for it (what driver is it?)
[01:25] <Dekkard> b0ri5 when you right click on a .deb file at the top of the dialog popup dose it say install with gdebi?
[01:25] <infidel> marshall, use gcc
[01:26] <plyskin> flannel: its for sil3124 sata 4 port card
[01:26] <infidel> marshall, or g++
[01:26] <ulteriord> Dekkard is there anyway to adjust your playback speed?
[01:26] <Flannel> marshall: er, you'd... probably click a button in anjuta, which will call your makefile/gcc.
[01:26] <erUSUL> Allen3373: download the driver from the link that appears in the wiki page i gave you not from ralink web page
[01:26] <Latitude^> is there a way to increase the size of my ext3 partition?
[01:26] <plyskin> I went to their website but they only have red hat and suse drivers
[01:26] <LonerVamp> How come Ubuntu doesn't have firefox 2.x available to download via Synaptic? :(
[01:26] <Dekkard> ulteriord ive never experienced that problem with anything other than really low bitrate mp3.. so I am not sure
[01:26] <Flannel> LonerVamp: Edgy has it, Dapper doesnt
[01:27] <Flannel> plyskin: you'll need to use that then, see this: help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[01:27] <LonerVamp> :(
[01:27] <_Krull_> can someone direct me to a place that will teach me sudo commands for cp, or mv?
[01:27] <marshall> Flannel, infidel: im a complete beginner to c++ and not very experienced with linux, can you guys help me get started programming c++?
[01:27] <ulteriord> Dekkard thanks anyway. Anyone else get this problem with a recent update?
[01:27] <plyskin> thnx
[01:27] <Flannel> marshall: try ##C++, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:27] <Xenguy> _Krull_: just prepend sudo to the commands, no?
[01:27] <LonerVamp> Flannel, thanks. I'll have to read up on how to update to Edgy finally. :)
[01:27] <Dekkard> ulteriord have you tried with a different player to see if its a system wide problem?
[01:27] <marshall> Flannel, ite
[01:27] <Flannel> LonerVamp: Versions of software are frozen for each ubuntu release, with only bugfixes and security patches
[01:27] <Flannel> !upgrade | LonerVamp
[01:27] <ubotu> LonerVamp: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:28] <_Krull_> Xenguy, I will try, thnx
[01:28] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know how to give your account temporary privileges without sudo or gksu?
[01:28] <ulteriord> Dekkard yes it is system wide in all my audio and video players
[01:28] <robdeman> hi folks.. Im looking for the location of user 'editors' 's crontab file?
[01:28] <Flannel> Lord_Maynoth: what?
[01:28] <Dekkard> ulteriord dayum
[01:28] <b0ri5> when I right click on a package, it only says "mark for reinstallation", "mark for removal", etc.
[01:28] <Trini_Man> i every one
[01:28] <Trini_Man> how do i list my dick space usage
[01:29] <Lord_Maynoth> well when I install a program using sudo make install it installs as root
[01:29] <lufis> Why does ":(){ :|:& };:" run in a shell freeze everything? I tried google but apparently it ignores punctuation
[01:29] <Lord_Maynoth> and I have to run it with sudo
[01:29] <lufis> ran*
[01:29] <Lord_Maynoth> I was wondering if there was a way around that
[01:29] <ulteriord> Dekkard I'm sure it's because of the updates I installed but I'm just not sure which one (I installed a bunch at one time)
[01:29] <Flannel> lufis: stop trolling.
[01:29] <Dekkard> if it sayd mark for reinstallation..that may bean the it is already installed....
[01:29] <kevin> tronica , didn't work, i tried doing the easy method, but i do not have a media tab under repositories to click add, then i did the manual way by replaceing contents o fthat file with what it said to, now it seems like im only searching on my own system, because all the results are already installed
[01:29] <lufis> Flannel: wth? i'm not trolling. i'm asking a legitimate question
[01:29] <dimitri> So yeah, I just downloaded the C Source code for Gnome Dock, a desktop docking program, and I'd like to know how to install it, please
[01:29] <rbil> Trini_Man: df -h
[01:29] <Doddman> is slim in the 'positories?
[01:29] <Trini_Man> how do i list my dick space usage
[01:29] <b0ri5> Where am I supposed to see those .deb packages anyway?
[01:29] <Trini_Man> ok
[01:29] <ulteriord> Dekkard is there any way to rollback my last updates?
[01:30] <eontasticness> Trini_Man, in inches?
[01:30] <Dekkard> dimitri you need the build essential package
[01:30] <Doddman> how can I install simple login manager?
[01:30] <Doddman> (SLiM
[01:30] <Dekkard> ulteriord that is a good question.. i wish i could help.. sorry :(
[01:30] <Doddman> )
[01:30] <dimitri> Dekkard, thank you
[01:30] <Flannel> lufis: Eh, we get that a lot with trolls.  You might ask in #bash, they'd be able to tell you
[01:30] <lufis> Flannel: i came across this today: http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=448  got curious, ran it, and it actually freezes everything. I'm curious as to why, but like i said, googling a bunch of punctuation marks brings up nothing relevant
[01:30] <ulteriord> Does anyone know how to rollback updates?
[01:31] <Xenguy> !rollback
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rollback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <_Krull_> Xenguy....I get this error message   cp: omitting directory `/home/owner/Desktop/gtk-2.0'
[01:31] <kevin> tronica, looks like i didntd finish the tut, brb
[01:31] <D7> sometimes my keyboard on my ibook in ubuntu just doesn't work
[01:31] <tronica> kevin: did you do "sudo apt-get update" after you added those
[01:32] <Xenguy> _Krull_: you probably need the '-r' (recursive) argument; man cp
[01:32] <b0ri5> where do I find the deb packages??
[01:32] <ulteriord> I guess I'll try a reboot and see if that helps. Thanks guys
[01:32] <Dekkard> b0ri5 where did you download them to??
[01:32] <b0ri5> synaptic package manager
[01:32] <zapradon> lol..the ubuntuguide is telling me to use the command 'fakeroot'--and bash sez it can't find such a command....
[01:32] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[01:32] <Latitude^> is there a way to increase the size of my ext3 partition?
[01:32] <Allen3373> I can't get ndiswapper to install. it tells me the file or directory doesn't exist, even though it's sitting there on my desktop.
[01:32] <robdeman> hey gang: where does Ubuntu store the crontab file for user XXXX ?
[01:33] <Dekkard> unless you only told synaptic to download only..they are prolly already instlled..
[01:33] <flyinghippo> I have been trying to remove a directory with command line, and have used "sudo rm -d folder/", and it has failed to work, I am still told that it is a directory.
[01:33] <zapradon> leaving the r out of ndiswrapper?
[01:33] <Trini_Man> how do i list my processor type ?
[01:33] <Dekkard> time to chow..
[01:33] <kevin> tronica , sorry i got it now, i see pixbuf in there now,  i wonder why i had to install repositories, i never did it b4
[01:33] <Allen3373> zapradon: no, that was a one time typo lol
[01:33] <inpho> easy question, I am trying to format an external hd using qtparted but when i try to commit it says "error commiting disk, this can happen if the disk is mounted" But i umounted it
[01:33] <zapradon> ah ok, just checking
[01:33] <zapradon> :)
[01:33] <tronica> kevin: not sure,
[01:33] <Xenguy> flyinghippo: rm -rf will delete the directory and all its contents (careful)
[01:33] <b0ri5> yes, I did mark them for installation; I don't see the new apps
[01:34] <tronica> kevin: glad it works now
[01:34] <zapradon> I always forget the caps...
[01:34] <Trini_Man> how do i list my processor type ?
[01:34] <flyinghippo> Thanks, Xenguy.
[01:34] <bruenig> b0ri5, what are you installing?
[01:34] <Xenguy> flyinghippo: np
[01:34] <bruenig> !repeat | Trini_Man
[01:34] <ubotu> Trini_Man: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:34] <kevin> tronica thanks for your help
[01:34] <rbil> Trini_Man: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:34] <Flannel> Trini_Man: uname -a
[01:34] <Allen3373> So any ideas on why I can't install ndiswrapper?
[01:34] <tronica> kevin: np
[01:34] <bruenig> Allen3373, how are you trying to install it?
[01:34] <b0ri5> antennavis, hamfax, gcb, glfer, ibp, multimon, qsstv, splat
[01:34] <Latitude^> flyinghippo: i had the same problem. thanks Xenguy
[01:34] <gpm> hi all, how can i change the permissions removable-drives are given by hal/pmount/gnome-volume-manager?
[01:34] <lufis> Allen3373: move the folder to your /home and try it then
[01:34] <Radica1Faith> trying to run airodump i get this message ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211
[01:34] <Radica1Faith> or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead.  Make sure RFMON is enabled:
[01:34] <Radica1Faith> run 'ifconfig eth1 up; iwconfig eth1 mode Monitor channel <#>'
[01:34] <inpho> easy question, I am trying to format an external hd using qtparted but when i try to commit it says "error commiting disk, this can happen if the disk is mounted" But i umounted it
[01:35] <K3nto> !iso
[01:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:35] <Xenguy> Latitude^: yw
[01:35] <Allen3373> lufis: how do I do that? lol I'm a noob
[01:35] <Radica1Faith> any ideas guys?
[01:35] <lufis> Allen3373: just drag and drop
[01:35] <tim167> i thought i could zoom in on my desktop by doing ctrl-alt-+, or am i mistaking ?
[01:35] <lufis> Allen3373: go to places > home folder, drag it from the desktop there
[01:35] <Allen3373> lufis: where is my home?
[01:35] <inpho> !iso
[01:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:35] <b0ri5> I don't see the new apps under "applications"
[01:35] <Allen3373> lufis: oh, ok. thanks
[01:35] <comradec> where is the actual file that gdm or x uses to launch startup applications in ubuntu, I though it was usually in the home directory, but it doesn't seem to be executing there
[01:36] <Radica1Faith> I'm unable to run airodump
[01:36] <Hotkey> any reason MoviePlayer that installs with 6.10 wont play any of my video?  Codec messages on avi,, mpg, wmv.
[01:36] <Allen3373> lufis: then try installing it?
[01:36] <NotchNick> I have tried to install Ubuntu and this is what I get.. Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?   Is there any easier way to install ubuntu with the latest nvidia drivers without going through the command line installation?
[01:36] <lufis> Allen3373: yeah
[01:36] <jake333> how do i uninstall apache2?
[01:36] <Radica1Faith> it says to make sure i have rfmon enabled
[01:36] <bruenig> b0ri5, are you sure they aren't command line apps?
[01:36] <Latitude^> Can anyone help me increase my ext3's paritition size? I resized my ntfs partition to give room to edggy
[01:36] <Allen3373> lufis: k
[01:36] <lufis> Flannel: did you get my pm's? i'm not sure if that works all the time..
[01:36] <rbil> !codecs | Hotkey
[01:36] <ubotu> Hotkey: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <Flannel> lufis: I did
[01:37] <lufis> Flannel: ah, ok
[01:37] <b0ri5> they should not be! antenna physics visualization\simulation in command prompt??
[01:37] <bruenig> Latitude^, you can't from the setup you had before do it because you can only add space on the end of a partition
[01:37] <Radica1Faith> Any ideas on how to enable rfmon?
[01:37] <Joeyc236> hello guys...i just dloaded ubuntuu and buned it but i reboot from the cd it shows the loading screen and nothing happens
[01:37] <Joeyc236> did i get a bad iso?
[01:37] <Radica1Faith> or put my wireless card in monitor mode?
[01:38] <Flannel> !md5
[01:38] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:38] <Latitude^> bruenig, so there's absolutely no way i can have bigger ext3?
[01:38] <bruenig> b0ri5, close the package manager and do sudo apt-get install antennavis
[01:38] <Flannel> Joeyc236: verify the MD5, also check the CD for defects (from the opening menu)
[01:38] <Joeyc236> flannel when i do that
[01:38] <Joeyc236> it does nothing
[01:38] <bruenig> Latitude^, you can't resize your edgy partition because that would require you to add space on the beginning of it and you can't do that, you can create a new partition and store stuff on that
[01:39] <Flannel> Joeyc236: then yeah, verify your md5, and burn at 4x this time.
[01:39] <lufis> Joeyc236: how long are you talking about? if you have a slow cd drive it can take a bit
[01:39] <Kronuz> hey, what do you use to burn CDs and DVDs? and to "copy" DVDs ;)
[01:39] <lufis> Kronuz: k3b is good for burning cds/dvds
[01:39] <Radica1Faith> I'm having trouble with airodump
[01:39] <inpho> easy question, I am trying to format an external hd using qtparted but when i try to commit it says "error commiting disk, this can happen if the disk is mounted" But i umounted it
[01:39] <bruenig> Kronuz, I use xdvdshrink, I see most people suggest k9copy
[01:39] <Flannel> Latitude^: You can do some shuffling to expand partitions foreward, But it depends on how big your drive is, and how much stuff y have on it
[01:39] <Joeyc236> lufis: i burned it at 16X and tried 48X
[01:39] <Joeyc236> i'm using nero by the way
[01:39] <Flannel> Joeyc236: burn at 4x
[01:39] <sladen> bruenig: if you need to move a partition (rather than extend it), partition manager maybe able to assist
[01:39] <lufis> Joeyc236: well i mean read speed
[01:39] <Dakana> Gah... even after building fglrx 8.28.8 from source, X completely locks up about 30 seconds after login. I just want 3d acceleration with my Radeon 8500... :(
[01:39] <K3nto> !unmount
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <bruenig> !fishing
[01:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:40] <Radica1Faith> !airodump
[01:40] <Joeyc236> Flannel: hehehe i'll try burning adn 4x and i'll i;ll see
[01:40] <Joeyc236> thanks
[01:40] <sladen> bruenig: (Partition Manager is commerical software)
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airodump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <comradec> !startup
[01:40] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:40] <NotchNick> I am using nvidia graphic card 8800 gts .. I have tried to install Ubuntu and this is what I get.. Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?   Is there any easier way to install ubuntu with the latest nvidia drivers without going through the command line installation?
[01:40] <b0ri5> I just get "antennavis is already the newest version."
[01:40] <Dakana> I had dri running fine, but then it seized up on me, and it keeps doing that :(
[01:40] <comradec> !xinit
[01:40] <Latitude^> bruenig, i see what you're saying. i think i'm stuck. i have a dell partition, an ntfs, an ext3 and a linux swap. i tired gparted and its saying max partition is 4
[01:40] <ubotu> xinit: X server initialisation tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:40] <bruenig> b0ri5, run antennavis and see what it does
[01:40] <Kronuz> Joeyc236: Nero?
[01:40] <Kronuz> is there a Linux version?
[01:40] <Freeman> has anyone installed an intel pro/wireless 3945?
[01:40] <Freeman> in edgy
[01:40] <Joeyc236> Keonuz yes....currently i got nero lite
[01:40] <K3nto> gyaresu: unmounting an iso?
[01:41] <K3nto> how do you unmount an iso
[01:41] <Trini_Man> whats the command to mount an iso
[01:41] <Radica1Faith> does anyone know anywhere where i can get help with airodump?
[01:41] <bruenig> !iso
[01:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:41] <lufis> Kronuz: nero for linux is hardly what it is on windows... you'd find apps like k3b to be better
[01:41] <Kronuz> I see
[01:41] <bruenig> !info airodump
[01:41] <Lord_Maynoth> if a peice of software said to run ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR   would I change that to $GNOMEDIR in ubuntu?
[01:41] <ubotu> Package airodump does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:41] <Latitude^> Flannel, i have 10 gb unallocated space
[01:41] <Joeyc236> k3b? cna i use it for with windows right now
[01:41] <Dakana> Does anyone know of a reason fglrx is causing X to lock up after about 30 seconds after login?
[01:42] <kingcobra> does anybody know how to remove a device from a system in ubuntu
[01:42] <eck> Lord_Maynoth: it is probably taking advantage of some KDE-specific feature, so no
[01:42] <bruenig> Lord_Maynoth, I would --prefix=/usr/local
[01:42] <Hotkey> Is Xchat the best IRC client?
[01:42] <eck> Lord_Maynoth: also, you should read how --prefix works in the context of configure scripts
[01:42] <bruenig> !best | Hotkey
[01:42] <ubotu> Hotkey: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:43] <rbil> Hotkey: personally I prefer Konversation
[01:43] <lufis> Joeyc236: to burn the iso? use nero if you've got it, but on linux don't even bother with nero... it wants you to pay for what you can get for free
[01:43] <Lord_Maynoth> eck, would /usr/local be better?
[01:43] <Joeyc236> lol if i can just install linux first
[01:43] <Hotkey> rbil thx - im used to mirc on xp but looking for new options here
[01:43] <Xenguy> Joeyc236: you don't need nero on linux
[01:43] <eck> Lord_Maynoth: usually /usr/local or ~/local is best
[01:43] <bruenig> Lord_Maynoth, personally compiled software is "supposed" to be in /usr/local from what I read at least
[01:43] <Joeyc236> i mean i don't care for nero its all i've used on windows
[01:44] <Lord_Maynoth> eck, thanks
[01:44] <Lord_Maynoth> bruenig, thanks
[01:44] <eck> Lord_Maynoth: if you don't change the prefix, you run the risk of stomping on some file that apt put somewhere, which could cause problems later on
[01:44] <bruenig> Joeyc236, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[01:44] <Joeyc236> bruenig whats that
[01:44] <kingcobra> eck: do you know how to remove a device from a system in ubuntu
[01:44] <cyphase> Does anyone know how Ubuntu will handle the Daylight Savings Time change in the US?
[01:44] <bruenig> Joeyc236, gives you a free application for isos
[01:44] <llindy> how do i burn cd's in ubuntu ?
[01:44] <Radica1Faith> I'm unable to install packages from the package manager
[01:45] <lufis> llindy: sudo apt-get gnomebaker
[01:45] <bruenig> Joeyc236, direct link http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
[01:45] <llindy> thanks
[01:45] <Joeyc236> oh ok thanks buddy
[01:45] <lufis> llindy: or try k3b, some prefer the latter
[01:45] <juan_> llindy-> k3b
[01:45] <Kronuz> I'm reading the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto howto, but I find difficult to know how they do some things...
[01:45] <lufis> er, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker *
[01:45] <Kronuz> like for instance he says "used the package manager to download the dmraid package from the universe repository"
[01:45] <llindy> invalid operation k3b
[01:45] <Kronuz> how's that done? :P
[01:45] <Latitude^> bruenig, will i be in trouble if i delete my linux swap? i want to change to another ext 3
[01:45] <lufis> llindy: sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:45] <Radica1Faith> thankyou
[01:45] <Kronuz> what packet manager?
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> gnomebaker rocks.
[01:46] <eck> kingcobra: how do you mean "remove a device"?
[01:46] <_Krull_> Where do I put my wallpaper file...right now it is on the desktop?
[01:46] <Kronuz> hey, does the LiveCD come with a IRC client?
[01:46] <bruenig> Kronuz, gaim
[01:46] <NotchNick> I am using nvidia graphic card 8800 gts .. I have tried to install Ubuntu and this is what I get.. Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?   Is there any easier way to install ubuntu with the latest nvidia drivers without going through the command line installation?
[01:46] <Radica1Faith> synaptics
[01:46] <bruenig> Latitude^, you can delete your swap if you want
[01:46] <bruenig> would remake it when you get it all sorted out though
[01:46] <kingcobra> eck: delete any trace of it in ubuntu
[01:46] <Radica1Faith> using synaptics i get dpkg parse error and unable to install anything
[01:46] <bruenig> Radica1Faith, synaptics, the touchpad thing?
[01:46] <shatrat> NotchNick, are you talking about installing ubuntu, or installing drivers on ubuntu?
[01:47] <jonno> could i get help for KTorrent?
[01:47] <Radica1Faith> no synaptic the packet manager
[01:47] <Kronuz> bruenig: 'cause I have two arrays in RAID 0 both NTFS and I want to shrink the partition and then instal Ubuntu in one of my arrays
[01:47] <rbil> NotchNick: u can try this at a command line:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:47] <NotchNick> shatrat: installing ubuntu.. I cant install it because of my graphic card
[01:47] <lufis> jonno: what's the issue?
[01:47] <bruenig> Kronuz, ok, don't know what that has to do with IRC client or not
[01:47] <kingcobra> eck: so that on reboot ubuntu would recognise it with default drivers and settings again
[01:47] <eck> kingcobra: i am not really sure what you are talking about, 'device' has a special meaning in the context of linux/unix
[01:47] <inpho> How do i mount a Fat32 drive with Ubuntu
[01:48] <marco__> where can I blacklist modules?
[01:48] <eck> kingcobra: just revert anything you altered
[01:48] <Kronuz> I'm really new and I wouldn't want to f*#k things up, could someone help me when I get back here in my LiveCD :)
[01:48] <b0ri5> i'm back, how do I run antennavis?
[01:48] <shatrat> NotchNick, so you are having trouble with the livecd? try booting the liveCD using the safe settings option, and if it still doesnt work I would just download the alternative install disk which is text based.  the liveCD doestn work on all the hardware in the world
[01:48] <eck> kingcobra: devices are configured at boot time by udev, so it should be done each time the computer is started
[01:48] <bruenig> inpho, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /mount/point
[01:48] <Kronuz> just that RAID part
[01:48] <kingcobra> eck: how do u do that
[01:48] <bruenig> b0ri5, type antennavis in the command line see what happens
[01:48] <eck> kingcobra: did you manually edit any files to change the device's behavior?
[01:48] <jonno> lufis: did you get my PM
[01:48] <llindy> how do i open k3b after installing
[01:49] <b0ri5> is says cmd not found
[01:49] <Kronuz> the howto seems too complicated in some parts, I'm really not very familiar with Ubuntu, not to mention Linux
[01:49] <lufis> jonno: no, freenode is weird about messages
[01:49] <jonno> ..
[01:49] <jonno> ok
[01:49] <kingcobra> eck: what does device mean relating to linux
[01:49] <jonno> well
[01:49] <eck> kingcobra: if not then you can just reboot, if so you would just revert the changes you made
[01:49] <inpho> bruenig:  it is saying wrong fs type
[01:49] <jonno> i want to up the DL speed
[01:49] <bruenig> b0ri5, ls /usr/bin | grep ant
[01:49] <Radica1Faith> i'm unable to use the synaptic packet manager at all
[01:49] <eck> devices are pieces of hardware with nodes in /dev
[01:49] <jonno> im only getttign about 5 kbps
[01:49] <NotchNick> shatrat I am using the alternate to install ubuntu.. but it doesnt work
[01:49] <Dakana> Can anyone help me with fglrx drivers?
[01:49] <bruenig> inpho, try just sudo mount /dev/whatever /mount/point
[01:49] <lufis> jonno: it downloads at the highest speed by default... it's probably the torrent's fault, not ktorrent's
[01:49] <jonno> but i know im capable of more than 250kbps
[01:49] <jonno> ..
[01:49] <jonno> ok
it's under the sound and video menu
[01:50] <lufis> jonno: torrents only download quickly if there are a lot of seeders with high upload speeds
[01:50] <shatrat> NotchNick, oh...I dont understand why you would get an x server related error while using the alternate installer
[01:50] <inpho> bruenig: it says i must specify a file type
[01:50] <b0ri5> I get this:
[01:50] <b0ri5> antenna.tcl
[01:50] <b0ri5> kgrantpty
[01:50] <yell0w> hey guys, is there a way to grep something and exlude something out of the result ?
[01:50] <kingcobra> eck: i made a lot of changes, some to system files i think
[01:50] <kingcobra> eck: i was following guides
[01:50] <Freeman> can anyone help me with setting up an intel pro wireless 3945 in edgy?
[01:50] <aridese> what's the command to lock the screen?
[01:50] <ramza3> firefox is slow on my system (at least to me), is there a browser that is a little snappier
[01:50] <Flannel> Latitude^: and how much stuff do you have on that drive?
[01:51] <kingcobra> eck: now i would like to remove the device completely and start over
[01:51] <lufis> ramza3: epiphany, opera
[01:51] <Flannel> !ipv6 | ramza3
[01:51] <Radica1Faith> Can anyone help me get the synaptic packet manager working?
[01:51] <ubotu> ramza3: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:51] <Dekkard> "package manager"
[01:51] <Kronuz> okay, I'll be back in my LiveCD... hopefully, and hopefully someone can help me if I get stuck
[01:51] <b0ri5> I dont get this at all.
[01:51] <ramza3> ubotu: will that effect sites I visit
[01:51] <lufis> Kronuz: don't be afraid :)
[01:51] <NotchNick> shatrat that was when I used the desktop installer.. when using the alternate installer I endup here.. username@ubuntu:~$    tried this link.. but no use http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox
[01:51] <bruenig> inpho, it should be -t vfat if it is fat32
[01:51] <Dekkard> Radica1Faith you need to add source..i.e. repositorys
[01:51] <Kronuz> hey, also... what do you use as a download manager? I use FlashGet in windows
[01:52] <Radica1Faith> I've done that
[01:52] <Dekkard> ok
[01:52] <bruenig> b0ri5, ok run antenna.tcl
[01:52] <Dakana> Does anyone know why my X likes to become completely unresponsive when using fglrx drivers?
[01:52] <Dekkard> than you need to reload the package manager..did you do that
[01:52] <lufis> Kronuz: well, if you're really nerdy, wget... but maybe you'd like something gui
[01:52] <shatrat> NotchNick, is this after installing, or during install?
[01:52] <eck> kingcobra: if you didn't back up the files, and you don't know what you changed, i don't know how to help you; i think you might be able to do it with dpkg-reconfigure, i'm really not sure
[01:52] <Dekkard> so that it updates with the new sources
[01:52] <rbil> NotchNick: have u tried the command i sent u?
[01:52] <Kronuz> (just figuring out what apps I'll want, to have equivalent functionality in Linux as I have in windows)
[01:52] <Radica1Faith> Dekkard: yeah i did
[01:53] <marco__> where can I blacklist modules?
[01:53] <Dekkard> ok.. what is exactly the problem
[01:53] <posingaspopular> Kronuz: what are you doing
[01:53] <shatrat> Kronuz, it's very easy to try out lots of apps by browsing through synaptic, worry about that after you have installed
[01:53] <NotchNick> shatrat after installing I removed the cd and it rebooted.. then I was asked to enter username and password... then this appeared username@ubuntu:~$
[01:53] <Kronuz> posingaspopular: moving away from Vista ^_^
[01:53] <b0ri5> I get "BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)" error
[01:53] <bruenig> Radica1Faith, before you do anything, close the package manager, do sudo apt-get install -f, and if that doesn't work, do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:53] <kingcobra> eck: i dont want to do anything with the files or settings, i just want to remove the device from ubuntu completely
[01:53] <shatrat> NotchNick, oh I see
[01:53] <Kronuz> like for instance, I also use TortoiseSVN and CVS
[01:53] <Flannel> Kronuz: check this out : http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html  (there are plenty of other equivalence tables out there)
[01:53] <lufis> Kronuz: there is also a bit more friendly way to install extra software... go to applications > add/remove
[01:53] <shatrat> NotchNick, I think I know the problem
[01:53] <posingaspopular> ha nice
[01:53] <Kronuz> I dont' know if there's something similar for Linux
[01:53] <kingcobra> eck: do you know how to
[01:54] <linuxlover> respected..... I need an idea from you. I want to make my small LAN of my two computers for internet sharing. One machine contains 2 NICs and the other have 1 NIC. Should I install UbuntuServer in the 2NICs machine and Ubuntu Desktop in the other machine? or Installation of the Ubuntu Desktop(6.06LTS) verson in both of the machines can work the purpose?
[01:54] <NotchNick> I hope I can fix it
[01:54] <shatrat> NotchNick, do you have a second computer so you can follow along on a how-to while you work on the comp in command line?
[01:54] <Kronuz> Flannel: I'll ask you for that link again later
[01:54] <NotchNick> shatrat yes
[01:54] <kingcobra> eck: you know the way you can remove a module, i would like to know how to remove a device
[01:54] <Kronuz> Flannel: what IRC client is a good client in Linux?
[01:54] <Flannel> linuxlover: Desktop will work fine on both machines, and that's what oyu want, actually.  If you want to use both computers as desktops
[01:54] <b0ri5> will Add\Remove applications help?
[01:54] <bruenig> Kronuz, xchat is good
[01:54] <lufis> Kronuz: gaim's good
[01:54] <PhibreOptix> Kronuz: XChat
[01:55] <Dekkard> Radica1Faith click on packages in synaptic.. there are several subdivisions of packages.. when you click i twill give you options..like install.. mark them and than on the top bar click apply
[01:55] <bruenig> b0ri5, are you sure this package works?
[01:55] <Allen3373> ok, trying to install some drivers using ndiswrapper. when I enter the 'ndiswrapper -i driver.inf' command, it tells me that the 'ndiswrapper' command doesn't exist. any ideas?
[01:55] <Flannel> Kronuz: irssi.  And this is the problem with asking these sorts of questions.  It's all personal preference, and what you personally, like in software
[01:55] <lufis> Allen3373: have you changed the directory?
[01:55] <NotchNick> shatrat I have deleted ubuntu.. so I think it will be better to start from the begining
[01:55] <b0ri5> I downloaded it from synaptec package manager.
[01:55] <dgx> Kronuz: I used Xchat for a while, but Gaim has proved to be better in my opinion...
[01:55] <shatrat> NotchNick, k, the drivers that come with ubuntu are older, and 8800 support was only added recently.  There are instructions here on how to install them.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy  Just follow the part that talks about nvidia drivers, dont do the other stuff about ati and beryl.
[01:55] <aridese> what's the command to lock the screen?
[01:55] <aridese> command line?
[01:55] <Allen3373> lufis: to what?
[01:55] <bruenig> b0ri5, I mean do you know what it is even supposed to do or did it just look like something cool
[01:55] <Kronuz> dgx: isn't it Gaim the one with MSN Messenger support too?
[01:56] <lufis> Allen3373: to the directory. i presume you're compiling from source or something?
[01:56] <shatrat> NotchNick, I see.  well if you get back to a point where you have ubuntu installed by X wont start, thats what you need to do, install the 9746 drivers according to the how-to I linked
[01:56] <posingaspopular> Kronuz: yea it does that too
[01:56] <Flannel> Kronuz: GAIM has really crappy IRC support
[01:56] <posingaspopular> for irc you should use konversation
[01:56] <posingaspopular> since it rocks
[01:56] <linuxlover> Flannel Thank you for your response. Yes, I need to use both of the machines as desktop but only share my internet connection.....it is my requirement
[01:56] <Latitude^> bruenig, thanks anyway
[01:56] <posingaspopular> inho
[01:56] <diabolix> does anyone know of some decent card studio software for linux?
[01:56] <marco__> How do I stop alsa?
[01:56] <posingaspopular> imho
[01:56] <Allen3373> lufis: correct. I was in the directory that the files are in. but no mater where I go, it's an invlid command
[01:56] <dgx> Flannel: What's so crappy about the IRC support in Gaim?
[01:56] <kingcobra> gaim has support for nearly all messaging protocols around
[01:56] <posingaspopular> marco__: kill -alsa
[01:56] <posingaspopular> i think
[01:56] <NotchNick> shatrat so when I get to the
[01:56] <NotchNick> username@Username:~$
[01:56] <NotchNick> I use your link?
[01:56] <lufis> Allen3373: have you compiled it yet? binaries aren't made until source is compiled
[01:56] <b0ri5> It's antenna visualization software, but I need other apps more than this; this particular app is not of great importance to me.
[01:56] <shatrat> NotchNick, yes, log in using the username and pass you setup
[01:56] <Kronuz> burning Ubuntu DesktopCD
[01:56] <Kronuz> :)
[01:57] <Allen3373> lufis: I have no idea lufis. Allen=noob
[01:57] <Flannel> dgx: er... it treats IRC as an instant messaging protocol.
[01:57] <bruenig> b0ri5, but I mean to say do you know what it looks like
[01:57] <diabolix> i want to switch my parents to some linux distro, but if there isn't any card software, its a nogo.
[01:57] <lufis> Allen3373: are you following a guide?
[01:57] <dgx> Kronuz: What do you want to use IRC for? I assume if you've switched from Winbl0ws you won't be jumping into scripting too soon..
[01:57] <shatrat> NotchNick, and if you need help with adding repositories or whatever, just ask in here or in #ubuntu-effects, its less crowded there
[01:57] <Allen3373> lufis: the .inf .sys files are sitting on my desktop
[01:57] <kingcobra> flannel: what is bad about gaims irc support
[01:57] <dgx> Flannel: What's wrong with that?
[01:57] <Allen3373> lufis: the one that comes with ndiswrapper.
[01:57] <bruenig> I don't like nickserv popping up in another tab
[01:57] <Dekkard> b0ri5 if you got the packages with synaptic they are prolly already installed..what did you install?
[01:57] <lufis> Allen3373: ah, well, i don't know. haven't done it myself
[01:57] <Kronuz> dgx: nah, just to start asking questions here and there about linux, if I have to
[01:57] <NotchNick> shatrat thanks a lot.. I'll try it
[01:58] <Kronuz> but I'd want to use something good from the start
[01:58] <dgx> Kronuz: Then Gaim is best :) Simple client with a decent interface.
[01:58] <dgx> I'm in the same shoes as you - recently started using Ubuntu over Windows.
[01:58] <Allen3373> lufis: oh
[01:58] <aozaki> Need a little help here.. whenever I try to open Add/Remove from the Applications menu, I starts to load but closes shortly after. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:58] <Kronuz> dgx: and it's installed in the LiveCD?
[01:58] <shatrat> Kronuz, xchat has more options, gaim is an all in one thing that also does msn, aim, et cetera.  I prefer xchat for irc
[01:58] <happyface0> whats the beryl setting called: to how much zoomed back it goes when you press the shortcut to rotate it?
[01:58] <jcol1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[01:58] <jcol1> for the life of me i can't get the nvidia legacy driver to work with this card
[01:58] <shatrat> Kronuz, yeah gaim is on the liveCD
[01:58] <posingaspopular> gaim is okay
[01:59] <dgx> Kronuz: It's installed, yeap.
[01:59] <posingaspopular> dont use it for irc though
[01:59] <Kronuz> :)
[01:59] <Flannel> happyface0: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> posingaspopular: gaime is better than kopete.. but you're right, not for IRC.
[01:59] <userund> aozaki: I'm not sure how to fix that exactly but you can add/remove programs from Synaptic too
[01:59] <dgx> Kronuz: Why not resize a partition and install on HDD? Much faster.
[01:59] <b0ri5> this is a example screenshot: http://n5xu.ece.utexas.edu/antennavis/pos1.gif
[01:59] <happyface0> thanks Flannel
[01:59] <lufis> what's wrong with gaim's irc support? i'm not a *huge* irc nerd but i've had no problems with it
[01:59] <shatrat> jcol1, you shouldnt need legacy for that,the 8776 one in the repository should work, nvidia-glx
[01:59] <happyface0> posingaspopular what do you use for irc?
[01:59] <Lord_Maynoth> someone told me --PREFIX=/usr/local is redundant because ./configure uses /usr/local by default
[01:59] <Lord_Maynoth> is that true?
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> lufis: i just don't like it for IRC.
[01:59] <posingaspopular> konversation
[01:59] <Kronuz> dgx: I will, but I have RAID arrays :P
[01:59] <Freeman> what do you guys suggest i use for a wifi manager?
 you must use the official nvidis 9131 driver
[01:59] <aozaki> userund: hmmm didn't think of that, I'll try it. Thanks
[01:59] <posingaspopular> you can try it out on a live cd
[01:59] <Freeman> im using kwifimanager right now
[01:59] <kingcobra> y not use gaim for irc ppl
[01:59] <slvmchn> yeah gAIM for IRC just seemed silly
[01:59] <shatrat> Freeman, network-manager-gnome
[01:59] <Kronuz> and I'll probably need IRC before installing stuff
[01:59] <dgx> Sweet :)
[01:59] <crdlb> Lord_Maynoth, it usually does
[02:00] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install konversation
[02:00] <Lord_Maynoth> ahh
[02:00] <posingaspopular> if you dont have it
[02:00] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[02:00] <shatrat> Freeman, nvm if youre on kde ;)
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> slvmchn: cuz we're free...lol
[02:00] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[02:00] <userund> xchat or konversation for IRC, imo
[02:00] <lufis> IndyGunFreak: ah, well i just like the way it integrates with the client i use for everything else
[02:00] <Dekkard> jIRCii 10.12.06 Linux : <JakieChan> butan: java sucks
[02:00] <posingaspopular> it comes on the kubuntu live cd
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> lufis: different strokes for different folks.
[02:00] <B|00d|u5T> what up all
[02:00] <Kronuz> hey, is there eMule for Linux?
[02:00] <B|00d|u5T> im tryin to install beryl
[02:00] <jcol1> juan_: ok, do you have this card?
[02:00] <dgx> userund: Why use a dedicated IRC client if you only want to connect to a server to ask ad hoc questions?
[02:00] <cerberus> Does anyone know the easiest way to upgrade the dapper kernel? I need at least 2.6.18
[02:00] <kingcobra> amule
[02:00] <userund> Kronuz: there is amule
[02:00] <Flannel> B|00d|u5T: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support
[02:00] <Kronuz> oh
[02:00] <lufis> Kronuz: if you like soulseek, there's a linux clone
[02:00] <juan_> in this right moment
[02:00] <posingaspopular> !update
[02:01] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:01] <Freeman> shatrat: i dont know what im on i just went into add applications and it was the only one i saw
[02:01] <B|00d|u5T> im in the newest version of ubuntu
[02:01] <B|00d|u5T> just installed it
[02:01] <Kronuz> I guess I'll find anything I want for Linux then
[02:01] <userund> dgx: but I don't want to connect just to ask ad hoc questions.
[02:01] <dgx> userund: Kronuz does ;)
[02:01] <Kronuz> ...I don't do much gaming ;)
[02:01] <soyke> is there some sort of easy to use greeting card software that i can install for my parents?
[02:01] <codecaine> I didn't upgrade to feisty
[02:01] <codecaine> :)
[02:01] <juan_> the drivers are un the driver archive on nvidia page
[02:01] <Kronuz> okay, wish me luck... hopefully I'll be back from the live CD
[02:02] <dgx> Kronuz: Same :) Gave gaming up a year or so ago, and Ubuntu has proven to serve me much better than Windows so far.
[02:02] <B|00d|u5T> anybody know how to install beryl on the new vers of ubuntu???\
[02:02] <Flannel> B|00d|u5T: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support
[02:02] <dgx> Kronuz: have fun :)
[02:02] <Dekkard> !beryl
[02:02] <B|00d|u5T> k
[02:02] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:02] <dgx> Anyway, I'm tired.. night.
[02:02] <soyke> oh well.. hopefully wine will be fine with my mom's card software...
[02:02] <Kronuz> bbias
[02:02] <userund> soyke: check winehq
[02:02] <ToddEDM> is Gnome a window manager?
[02:02] <aridese> what's the command to lock the screen?
[02:03] <cerberus> Does anyone know the easiest way to upgrade the dapper kernel? I need at least 2.6.18
[02:03] <Dekkard> its a desktop environment
[02:03] <userund> ToddEDM: no, it's a desktop environment.  metacity is gnome's window manager
[02:03] <ToddEDM> ok
[02:03] <lufis> ToddEDM: not exactly
[02:03] <Dekkard> i believe metacity is the wiondow manager
[02:03] <lufis> ToddEDM: metacity is gnome's window manager
[02:03] <posingaspopular> you dont want to use gnome anyway. its all about kde
[02:03] <aridese> what's the command to lock the screen?
[02:03] <b0ri5> ok, I got the other apps running by calling the cmd from the cmd line. How do I make a shortcut for this to put under "Applications" and a new folder?
[02:03] <ToddEDM> ok thanks, i thought Beryl was like an alternative to Gnome
[02:03] <aridese> what's the command to lock the screen?
[02:03] <aridese> command line?
[02:03] <lufis> b0ri5: edit menu by right-clicking it and clicking "Edit menu"
[02:04] <lufis> b0ri5: and manually add an entry
[02:04] <Dekkard> b0ri5 try from terminal killall gnome-panel and than check the apps menu again
[02:04] <Flannel> cerberus: if you want to still use dapper, you'll need to roll your own, otherwise you'll need Feisty
[02:04] <jexdawg> hello. i've just installed songbird and found that i like it better than rhythmbox, so i'd like to make it my default player. however, i have a "music applet" that controls rhythmbox from my panel, which is sweet. so i'm wondering, does songbird provide any functionality to allow me to control it from a panel? or is there an app i can d/l to get that control back?
[02:04] <ToddEDM> so ok...... i need some help trying to get my sound working properly, would someone like to help a newb out ???
[02:04] <Dekkard> no
[02:04] <ToddEDM> damn
[02:05] <userund> !ask | ToddEDM
[02:05] <ubotu> ToddEDM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:05] <Dekkard> s0ngbird is mostly firefox
[02:05] <NotchNick> for a swap partition... it is better to set it as primary or logical?
[02:05] <lufis> NotchNick: always try to make them primary
[02:05] <NotchNick> thanks
[02:05] <lufis> NotchNick: if possible, of course
[02:05] <yell0w> hey guys, where would -dev be installed to ?
[02:05] <b0ri5> how do I edit the menu at the top?
[02:05] <Dekkard> um.. /mnt?
[02:06] <cerberus> Flannel, On dial up, there's not a lot of choice in the matter. I attempted to compile the vanilla kernel and it refuses to boot, it freezes while loading usbhid (whatever that is)
[02:06] <lufis> b0ri5: if you right-click on the menu, you'll see an "Edit menu" entry... click that
[02:06] <yell0w> Dekkard, i'm pretty sure that's not where it is
[02:06] <inpho> i guess i need some basic disk management help, can anyone pm me?
[02:06] <userund> inpho: why not ask 900 people your question instead of just 1
[02:06] <Dekkard> ok.. /dev
[02:07] <b0ri5> but how do I add an app to it?
[02:07] <cafuego_> NotchNick: Actually, it doesn't matter at all if you make a partition primary or logical.
[02:07] <Dekkard> its part of /(root)
[02:07] <inpho> userund:  didnt you hear about the murder in new york :P
[02:07] <yell0w> Decadent, dude, stop answering questions unless you know it
[02:07] <Flannel> aridese: looks like lockvc is one for the terminal.  If you use GNU screen, ^A X will lock the screen
[02:07] <lufis> b0ri5: just click "new item"
[02:07] <techie_> Can anybody help with the installation of VirtualBox. After download, in trying to install I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable:libc-dev"
[02:07] <Flannel> !kernele | cerberus
[02:07] <Flannel> !kernel
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernele - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:07] <yell0w> techie_,  sudo aptitude install libc-dev
[02:07] <Flannel> cerberus: try that page
[02:07] <cafuego_> techie_: Are you trying to install it from an ubuntu package?
[02:08] <techie_> thanks yellow
[02:08] <cerberus> Flannel, Will do, cheers
[02:08] <cafuego_> yell0w: There is no such thing.
[02:08] <techie_> cafuego, no I downloaded it from virtualbox.org
[02:08] <techie_> I did not find as ubuntu package
[02:08] <yell0w> cafuego, uhm build-essential then ?
[02:08] <cafuego_> techie_: What format is the package in?
[02:08] <zapradon> is there something like a "codec-config" file somewhere?
[02:09] <b0ri5> ok, thanks! never realized u should run apps from the cmd prompt.. just for curiosity, where are the apps located that are run from the prompt?
[02:09] <shatrat> b0ri5, different places, you can find out with the "which" command
[02:09] <techie_> cafuego in virtual box .....1386.deb
[02:09] <cafuego_> b0ri5: virtual *all* are in /bin and /usr/bin/
[02:09] <yell0w> cafuego_, do you know where are -dev packages  installed to ?
[02:09] <Dekkard> b0ri5 usually from /bin and usr/bin/ and occasionally from /usr/local/bin
[02:09] <Mortium> Hello, I broke my system in feisty and I was thinking of trying to recompile my kernel. Would I be able to fully do that off of a chroot environment on my boot disk?
[02:10] <b0ri5> ok
[02:10] <aozaki> Repositories aren't saving... I click on "Software Sources" and check the boxes for universe, main, multiverse, and restricted, click close > reload > window closes. Reload software sources and nothing was saved. Anyone know how to fix this?
[02:10] <cafuego_> techie_: Then they broke the package, it should depend on libc6-dev, not libc-dev... unless it';s not for Ubuntu to begin with.
[02:10] <inpho> what file type should i set if i want a FAT32 drive that is usable in linux and windows ?
[02:10] <cefx> aozaki: edit the sources.list file yourself? :)
[02:10] <techie_> cafuego , according to the virtualbox.org page that is the package for Ubuntu 6.10
[02:10] <aozaki> cefx: how do i do that?
[02:10] <userund> aozaki: do it directly on the file.  in a terminal, type : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <inpho> does anyone know why my secondary IDE drive is showing up in fdisk as /dev/hdb1p1 ?
[02:10] <cafuego_> yell0w: normally stuff goes in the manpages dirs, /usr/include/* for headers and the odd lib in /usr/lib
[02:10] <techie_> cafuego take a look at the page!
[02:11] <aozaki> userund: thanks, I'll give it a try
[02:11] <Mortium> Can anyone tell me if I can recompile my kernel off of a chroot on a boot disc?
[02:11] <Azrael1> hey, anyone knows how to set up an Epson CX3700 scanner?
[02:11] <techie_> Cafuego. I thought the installation was straightforward!
[02:11] <cafuego_> techie_: They created a broken package then, send them a mail and ask them to fix the depend.
[02:11] <Azrael1> I've been trying with XSane to no success, I think I downloaded the right backend, but dunno how to install it
[02:11] <userund> Mortium: yeah you should, you can on gentoo.
[02:11] <Dekkard> azrael__ im not sure.. but i think you need sane installed.
[02:11] <LiENUS> is there any software for ubuntu to make flowchars?
[02:11] <shatrat> Azrael1, epsons are supposed to be well supported, try checking linuxprinting.org
[02:12] <inpho> does anyone know why my secondary IDE drive is showing up in fdisk as /dev/hdb1p1 ?
[02:12] <Mortium> woot! thank you userund. Is there any way to fix teh kernel module system before I do that?
[02:12] <inpho> what file type should i set if i want a FAT32 drive that is usable in linux and windows ?
[02:12] <aozaki> is sources.list suppose to be blank o_O
[02:12] <shatrat> LiENUS, try the OO.o draw application?
[02:12] <Azrael1> thanks shatrat
[02:12] <techie_> cafuego... just like that "send the depend" on the ubuntu 6.10 download package? (I am new at all of this)
[02:12] <Flannel> LiENUS: What sort of flowchart?  THere's a few.  dia, umbrello, even OOo Draw has flowchart stuffs
[02:12] <LiENUS> shatrat, something i dont have to draw by hand...
[02:12] <LiENUS> ohh
[02:12] <trif> LiENUS: you could also do a synaptic search for flow charts
[02:12] <userund> Mortium: Not sure, I've never tried on ubuntu to mess with the kernel's internals
[02:12] <LiENUS> it has a flowchar thing
[02:12] <Flannel> LiENUS: there are more too, I don't know them all.
[02:12] <trif> LiENUS: InkScape is ok for flow charting too
[02:12] <yell0w> cafuego, can i pm you ?
[02:12] <trif> but it's much more
[02:12] <techie_> Yellow, I tried your command and then reinstalled, the same error. it did not work] 
[02:12] <inpho> everytime i fdisk my drive and it go to write it, it always says  "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.The kernel still uses the old table."
[02:12] <omegabeta> Question : How do i set Irssi to auto nickserv? sick of typing it in
[02:12] <Mortium> userund: okay, thanks for telling me I won't f*ck anything up by doing it in chroot.
[02:12] <LiENUS> the flow chart will be for the design of an application
[02:13] <yell0w> cafuego_, , can i pm you ?
[02:13] <cefx> omegabeta: get a nickserv script
[02:13] <Mastastealth> hey guys, my touchpad (Alps , on an Inspiron 9300) has been extremely slow recently. it takes forever to go across the screen. changing mouse speed isn't working, has anyone had these issues?
[02:13] <omegabeta> cefx: you sure Irssi does not have it?
[02:13] <cefx> http://www.irssi.org/scripts/
[02:13] <techie_> Yellow, did i mess up in putting that command you told me?
[02:13] <cefx> nope, but i'd just use a script
[02:13] <cefx> heh
[02:13] <userund> Mastastealth: maybe you could manually set the DPI to be higher
[02:13] <omegabeta> cefx : no worries, thanks :)
[02:13] <LiENUS> i dont see ooo draw...
[02:13] <LiENUS> where is it?
[02:13] <inpho> everytime i fdisk my drive and it go to write it, it always says  "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.The kernel still uses the old table."
[02:13] <techie_> Cafuego, any other suggestions.
[02:14] <yell0w> techie_, are you running dapper ?
[02:14] <trif> LiENUS: kivio
[02:14] <techie_> Yellow, no Edgy
[02:14] <LiENUS> trif isnt that kde?
[02:14] <LiENUS> based...
[02:14] <jdrake> I have noticed in synaptic that there is a linux-image-2.6.17-50, I have -11 installed. Is the -50 just a newer version?
[02:14] <trif> LiENUS: yeah. but it's all I see in synaptic
[02:14] <Kronuz> I'm back
[02:14] <cafuego_> techie_: You need to install libc6-dev
[02:14] <Kronuz> :)
[02:14] <Azrael1> but actually, I'm trying to get a scanner to work, not a printer
[02:14] <Mastastealth> also, does anyone know how to get firefox use the backspace key as the "back" button? for some reason it just go to the top of the page instead...
[02:14] <techie_> cafuego, how do i do that?
[02:14] <yell0w> techie_, listen to cafuego_
[02:15] <techie_> yellow, I am listening to him
[02:15] <cafuego_> yell0w: No, libc6-dev provides libc-dev. just installed it here, worked fine.
[02:15] <userund> jdrake: -50?  wow never heard of it... but yes, it would just be a newer version.
[02:15] <ktron> Wee, fresh install of ubuntu :)
[02:15] <techie_> cafuego how do i install that library?
[02:15] <jdrake> userund: merci
[02:15] <userund> jdrake: de rien
[02:15] <cafuego_> techie_: And you also need to install libxalan110 and libxerces27
[02:15] <Azrael1> So, anyone knows how to install a scanner? an epson? I have XSane installed but doesn't work
[02:15] <yell0w> cafuego, yeah
[02:15] <Mortium> ktron: nothing like that virginal system before you screw it up beyond all recognition, isn't thre?
[02:15] <LiENUS> how do i launch openoffice draw?
[02:15] <cafuego_> techie_: 'sudo apt-get install libc6-dev libxalan110 libxerces27'
[02:15] <yell0w> cafuego, haha i just got libxerces27 too
[02:16] <inpho> everytime i fdisk my drive and it go to write it, it always says  "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.The kernel still uses the old table."
[02:16] <Azrael1> wasabi> are you by any chance from Uruguay?
[02:16] <Furkle> for some reason gaim doesnt go back up to the top bar when i close it can someone tell me how to fix it?
[02:16] <jdrake> userund: It appears that linux-386 depends on -11. I wonder if it is something in the backports or similar.
[02:16] <inpho> Can anyone spare a second an PM me, asking the question in the chat isnt doing anything
[02:16] <yell0w> cafuego_, got a couples of question about libxerces27, can i pm you ?
[02:16] <Kronuz> Firefox... whoohoo!
[02:16] <trif> LiENUS: oodraw is the executable
[02:16] <ktron> Mortium: that's a little too morbid an outlook for me... more like nothing like a clean whiteboard before I dingy it up
[02:16] <jdrake> ah, 'edgy-proposed'
[02:16] <userund> jdrake: perhaps.  the latest kernel I've seen is -11 for 2.6.17, -50 sounds like a typo maybe.
[02:16] <LiENUS> err now how do i do flow charts in it heh
[02:16] <cafuego_> yell0w: if you need to, but I know *nothing* about it, just so you know :-)
[02:17] <ktron> And this is replacing Windows XP and going to try to be a substitute for Vista, so
[02:17] <techie_> cafuego i used the command you provided and the same problem
[02:17] <techie_> cafuego. was that a single command?
[02:18] <cafuego_> techie_: yup
[02:18] <Kronuz> okay, I'm shrinking my NTFS :S
[02:18] <trif> LiENUS: maybe inkscape is a better bet
[02:18] <Azrael1> anyone knows about scanners?
[02:18] <techie_> cafuego without the "'" right?
[02:18] <Azrael1> or how to install backends for XSane?
[02:18] <trif> LiENUS: it's not that hard to use, and there's a fair amount of online tutorials
[02:18] <userund> !scanner
[02:18] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:18] <cafuego_> techie_: yup :-)
[02:18] <rbil> Kronuz: shrink it big. After Ubuntu, you'll hardly ever use XP :-)
[02:19] <Furkle> When i close gaim it doesnt go to the system tray anymore the plugin is still installed but it just closes gaim when i hit the x
[02:19] <techie_> cafuego, i pasted this into terminal: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev libxalan110 libxerces27
[02:19] <sgrove> I want to add korean to my supported languages, under system->administration->Language Support
[02:19] <sgrove> how shold I so this?
[02:19] <ktron> depends if and what games you want to play :)
[02:19] <sgrove> I currently only have english, japanese, and chinese
[02:19] <techie_> cafuego  but it did not work
[02:19] <sgrove> I'm sure it's probably pretty easy...
[02:20] <ktron> I love that I can use ubuntu while it installs to the hard drive
[02:20] <Fuzzehskittle1> why wont my ps/2 keyboard type? the numlock is on but it wont type
[02:20] <ktron> that's just so attractive compared to the downtime windows forces
[02:20] <techie_> cafuego, sorry it is still being installed!
[02:20] <userund> ktron: true but remember that the changes you make to the system on the livecd will not be preserved when you reboot
[02:20] <inpho> Can anyone spare a second an PM me, asking the question in the chat isnt doing anything
[02:20] <Kronuz> how can I get dmraid?
[02:20] <ktron> userund: yeah, I know, I'm keeping a list so I can redo them as necessary
[02:21] <ktron> userund: only had to do a few to get X running, everything else doesn't matter as long as it comes up like the livecd did
[02:21] <techie_> cafuego. still installing....
[02:21] <sgrove> bit of help, I need to know how to add additional languages to my ubuntu install
[02:21] <happyface0> Anyone know the default US keyboard? My keyboard is stuck at US Intl (with missing keys) and some keys act tg...
[02:22] <techie_> cafuego.... ok is all done. should I try to reinstall the deb package again?
[02:22] <ktron> inpho: I have no idea what that means
[02:22] <Kronuz> where's the package manager?
[02:22] <ktron> inpho: don't know much about fdisk
[02:22] <Kronuz> as to add dmraid
[02:22] <inpho> ktron:  thanks
[02:22] <sgrove> Is it under language support, or can I only do it once during install?
[02:22] <K3nto> !Octave
[02:22] <ubotu> octave: GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.73-8 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:23] <techie_> cafuego, you still there?
[02:23] <sgrove> why does ubuntu make everything so difficult?
[02:23] <yurimxpxman> Have any of you successfully logged into Ubuntu via XDMCP from a remote location (not the same LAN)?
[02:24] <iKitchu> how about changing video card? Am I stuck re-installing or what????
[02:24] <Flannel> sgrove: it doesn't.  It just isn't the same as you're used to
[02:24] <ktron> iKitchu: shouldn't need to reinstall
[02:24] <sgrove> Flannel, nah, ubuntu is pretty much no problem
[02:24] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: XDMCP uses UDP, which usually doesn't survive a router.  You'll need to tunnel through SSH
[02:24] <hcassidy> Wireless problems are resolved in Feisty Aplha 5 version?
[02:24] <sgrove> just difficult to get any attention without some semi-flaming
[02:24] <iKitchu> ktron, i change graphic fcard and when I boot it crashes
[02:24] <yurimxpxman> Flannel: How do I do that?
[02:24] <K3nto> !koctive
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about koctive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <sgrove> fourth time I've come in here with a relatively simple question, and can't get a single answer
[02:25] <sgrove> I know no one's obligated, but still makes it difficult to get by
[02:25] <Kronuz> dammmit, I can't even find how to install that dmraid package :(
[02:25] <ktron> iKitchu: you mean, x crashes?
[02:25] <iKitchu> ktron yeah
[02:25] <ktron> what are you changing from/to?
[02:25] <techie_> Yellow, how long does it take to install this package... is going on and on and on!
[02:25] <iKitchu> from a trident to an ATI rage IIC
[02:26] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: theres' plenty of tutorials out there (As it's fairly agnostic of any particular OS): http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/stirling/computergeek/xterminal.html is one
[02:26] <techie_> Yellow, it tells me is installing the package file but it does not seem to end!!!
[02:26] <K3nto> !octave
[02:26] <ktron> trident is ati too? I don't remember tridents
[02:26] <ubotu> octave: GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.73-8 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:26] <K3nto> !koctave
[02:26] <ubotu> koctave: graphical front-end for Octave. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 564 kB
[02:26] <dimitri> I just installed Zirgen! =)
[02:26] <yurimxpxman> Flannel: thanks :)
[02:26] <ToddEDM> ok, seems like this is the only channel that will even attemp to help a newb..... could somone help me fix the sound on my Nvidia soundcard>????
[02:26] <ktron> iKitchu: is trident ati too? I don't remember
[02:27] <ToddEDM> i shoulda known better than to ask elsewhere
[02:27] <iKitchu> ktron, nahhh trident is an old company that everyone forgot about... now I have zero support with it and I thought i could have better luck with ATI IIC
[02:27] <Flannel> !sound | ToddEDM
[02:27] <ubotu> ToddEDM: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:27] <ktron> iKitchu: well, for one, you probably should look up the different driver for ati, since I'm sure its different
[02:28] <sgrove> bit of help, I need to know how to add additional languages to my ubuntu install - how can I change my session language to korean if korean language support is not currently installed?
[02:28] <Kirovski> How do I make VLC my default video player
[02:28] <Kirovski> ?
[02:28] <ktron> google 'unofficial linux ati driver wiki' and snag the first result roughly
[02:28] <ktron> its a wiki, has a ubuntu section, I'd try the instructions there
[02:28] <ktron> (all from text only, of course)
[02:29] <ktron> iKitchu: maybe print it out and hold on to it, but it should be pretty good at getting Xorg up and running again
[02:29] <BrianG> my login screen is HUGE and i can scroll all over it. how do i get it back to fitting on my screen?
[02:29] <iKitchu> ktron yeah good idea... thnx
[02:29] <irunwithscissors> how is everyone this fine evening
[02:29] <ktron> Woot, rebooting into my installation...
[02:29] <cafuego_> techie: it took about a minute here
[02:30] <K3nto> !knotify
[02:30] <NDPTAL85> Is there an easy way to install Beryl to my Kubuntu install?
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <plyskin> is there an issue with ATI cards and Beryl? specifically, when I try to make wallpaper for each side of the cube, Beryl wont stay running....
[02:30] <techie> cafuego, the program is still installing... why does it take for ever?
[02:30] <omegabeta> >
[02:30] <userund> !beryl | NDPTAL85 plyskin
[02:30] <ubotu> NDPTAL85 plyskin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:30] <voidmage> plyskin: are you using xgl or DRI+AIGLX?
[02:30] <Kronuz> I finally found how to install a package, but I can't find dmraid in Synaptic PM
[02:30] <iNick> I want the system to ask for the root's password when I make a system preference, not mine.  I've already set root's password, and can login as root (in the console).  how do I set it to ask for the root's password
[02:30] <plyskin> voidmage: XGL
[02:30] <techie> Cafuego, could the program be doing through some sort of "eternal Loop!"?
[02:30] <voidmage> plyskin: then i don't know
[02:30] <TheVault> I'm sorry to interupt but god I am loving ubuntu! I installed it the other day and its playing very nice for my needs :)
[02:30] <Flannel> iNick: you want sudo to ask for the root's password?
[02:31] <plyskin> is there more advantage in running AIGLX?
[02:31] <TheVault> I bow down before the creators of Linux!!!!!!!!!!
[02:31] <userund> plyskin: it's native to xorg.
[02:31] <cafuego_> plyskin: Not really.
[02:31] <cafuego_> plyskin: not until either beryl or compiz stop being buggy
[02:31] <techie> cafuego. it says Installing "VirtualBox_1.3.6_Ubuntu_edgy_i386
[02:31] <plyskin> would AIGLX run better for my ATI 9800 pro?
[02:31] <gili> has anyone had experience with the i915 S-video Xorg modifications that are online...?
[02:31] <iNick> i want stuff like the network management system preference tool, users/groups, etc to ask for the root password, without it affecting my normal shutdown/reboot
[02:32] <superkirbyartist> !memory
[02:32] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[02:32] <Kronuz> how do I enable that "Universe" source?
[02:32] <Rotund> Is there a way to call the run command (like Alt+F2) in GNOME.  I want to call it from the command line.
[02:32] <Flannel> iNick: which means you want sudo to ask you for the root password
[02:32] <arrenlex> !easysource | Kronuz
[02:32] <Flannel> !universe | Kronuz
[02:32] <ubotu> Kronuz: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:32] <ubotu> Kronuz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:32] <ToddEDM> ' function snd_mixer_load failed '    how would a guy go about fixing that problem, anyone know?
[02:32] <iNick> Flannel: sure.  :)
[02:32] <userund> Kronuz: delete the # at the beginning of lines with 'universe' in them in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:32] <cafuego_> techie: until it says "error", just assume it's doing fine.
[02:32] <irunwithscissors> kronuz: go into settings > repositories
[02:33] <gili> has anyone had experience with the i915 S-video Xorg modifications that are online...?
[02:33] <Furkle> is it necessary to have a nvidia graphics card to install beryl on edgy?
[02:33] <jbinder> Furkle: no
[02:33] <userund> Furkle: you can use ati
[02:33] <jbinder> but nvidia pwns more
[02:33] <Furkle> let me rephrase that
[02:33] <techie> cafuego_ but how long does it program take? I thought it was only 30 MB
[02:33] <Pelo> evening folks
[02:33] <Kronuz> irunwithscissors, I'm there... but what now?
[02:33] <Furkle> will i be able to use beryl using an intel 945gm?
[02:33] <iNick> Flannel: sure.  :)  (repeat, in case you missed it)
[02:33] <Kronuz> oh
[02:33] <Kronuz> :)
[02:33] <techie> cafuego_ When finished, will I be able to execute windows files from within Ubuntu?
[02:33] <irunwithscissors> double click on the one you want and enable universe
[02:34] <Kronuz> oh, great! :)
[02:34] <cafuego_> techie: No idea, I've never used virtualbox
[02:34] <ToddEDM> i dont have ALSA aS a selection in my volume>file>change device, would anyone know why ?
[02:34] <Pelo> do we know an linux equivalent to speedfan ? to trottle the speed of the fans in the box , depending on the temp ?
[02:34] <techie> cafuego_ OK. so I will assume that it is installing....
[02:34] <EkToBoT> im having trouble getting a compiler
[02:34] <userund> Furkle: from what I hear, you can
[02:34] <EkToBoT> anyone help me?
[02:34] <Kronuz> hey, Ubuntu is really nice (from what I've seen so far) :)
[02:34] <gili> i915 S-video Xorg modifications that are online...?
[02:34] <cafuego_> EkToBoT: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:34] <Kronuz> so it's based in Debian, right?
[02:34] <EkToBoT> thanks
[02:34] <mike01> my sound is broken, how do i fix it
[02:34] <Pelo> EkToBoT,   use synaptic   install build-essential
[02:35] <techie> Has anybody here every used "VirtualBox" that can comment on why the installation is taking so long?
[02:35] <ToddEDM> mike01: .... mine too
[02:35] <irunwithscissors> mike01: we're going to need more details than that
[02:35] <Pelo> EkToBoT,  better yet sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:35] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:35] <mike01> when i run xmms as root i get alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): No such file or directory
[02:35] <TheVault> Got a question. I'm downloading videos from Youtube which they are all FLV files. I have VLC Player installed and I was reading that VLC supports FLV files, but when it open it up in VLC, it don't play. Do you guys know of any good FLV players for Ubuntu?
[02:35] <EkToBoT> thanks again ttfn
[02:35] <userund> TheVault: mplayer
[02:35] <mike01> my user is in the audio groups so its not that either
[02:35] <mike01> i think alsa has the wrong device selected how do i change that?
[02:35] <TheVault> userund: Me and that player don't get along, unless it has a GUI for linux
[02:35] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:35] <userund> TheVault: it does
[02:36] <mike01> and how do i have /dev/sound point to my proper soundcard?
[02:36] <TheVault> alright, then I shall get it
[02:36] <gili> ok so does anyone here have a i915GM chipset on their laptop?
[02:36] <ToddEDM> mike double click the volume icon, then file>change device, and make sure alsa is selected
[02:36] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:36] <userund> TheVault: sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[02:36] <rocca> hi
[02:36] <TheVault> thanks
[02:36] <Flannel> iNick: I saw it.  I'm... looking for the article.  You'll end up using "sudo visudo" to edit your sudoers file, and there's an option in there, but... I'm looking for that option
[02:36] <userund> !xvid
[02:36] <TheVault> uderund: Thans
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:36] <rocca> is there a nice graphic tool to configure a pppoe connection ?
[02:37] <techie> Cafuego_ Is it possible that VirtualBox is being installed in the 30 gigs of used space in Windows?
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> rocca: are you sing a linksys router
[02:37] <cafuego_> techie: no
[02:37] <techie> If so the installation might take a long time> Does this take space?
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> using**
[02:37] <K3nto> rocca: its not built into the networking?
[02:37] <cafuego_> techie: it installs to /opt under linux
[02:37] <inpho> i am having the oddest problems with getting a IDE HD to work, can anyone please assist ?
[02:37] <Flannel> iNick: May, while I'm searching, I ask why you want to do this?
[02:37] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:37] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:37] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:37] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:37] <h3xagram> hello, how do you install xvid support for ubuntu?
[02:37] <rocca> irunwithscissors: what's a lynksys router ?
[02:37] <plyskin> anyone have an idea how to get my Sil3124 sata PCI-X card working where ubuntu will recognize all 5 drives in my external drive tower? It only sees the 1st bay...
[02:37] <merc> kickban!
[02:37] <techie> cafuego, so it is possible that the installation is lenghty?
[02:37] <merc> !repeat
[02:37] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:37] <h3xagram> bankick!
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> rocca: it's a brand, what brand name does your router have on it?
[02:38] <h3xagram> !repeat
[02:38] <mike01> how do i get my sound to work
[02:38] <gili> h3xagram: install VLC
[02:38] <h3xagram> VLC is installed
[02:38] <gili> h3xagram: VLC plays all xvids
[02:38] <iNick> Flannel: sure.  my <preference> is to have the root password to change SYSTEMWIDE things, and your own password to change your own things.  makes more sense..  in a security standpoint, weather you're the only one on the box or not.
[02:38] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:38] <TheVault> Couldn't find gmplayer
[02:38] <netsrot> how do I get swedish characters in the terminal outside X?
[02:38] <ToddEDM> !alsa
[02:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:38] <bobby> hey i am about to buy a laptop which should i get
[02:38] <cube3|DJ> gili: does it play http://shoutcast.lc-hosting.com:9030 ?
[02:39] <rocca> K3nto: I have pppoe, but I often need to turn from wifi to pppoe to normal adsl connection without login and password
[02:39] <h3xagram> bobby: toshiba satellia a105-s4274
[02:39] <Kronuz> okay, I've installed dmraid... but now what?
[02:39] <Flannel> iNick: You know with sudo you can edit the abilities that people have, even while using sudo.
[02:39] <gili> let me see
[02:39] <irunwithscissors> rocca: what brand is your router?
[02:39] <rocca> irunwithscissors: I don't use router
[02:39] <irunwithscissors> oh ok
[02:39] <TheVault> userund: E: Couldn't find package gmplayer
[02:39] <Flannel> iNick: So, even though you have [joe user]  with sudo access, all he can do is [whatever you let him]  with that sudo
[02:39] <EkToBoT> i ran sudo for Build essentials ans thats all cool
[02:39] <lonelystar> gili, hei,Can you hear me?
[02:39] <voidmage> !info gmplayer
[02:39] <K3nto> rocca: so is your modem and wireless built into one?
[02:39] <techie> cafuego_ how much longer is normal installation? It has taken so far about 10 minutes or so.....
[02:39] <ubotu> Package gmplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:39] <dick_> hello all
[02:39] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:39] <EkToBoT> but how do i run the c++ compiler?
[02:40] <iNick> Flannel: i see sudo as a bad hack.  if you want people to do root-level access tasks, give them the root password
[02:40] <rocca> K3nto: yes
[02:40] <dick_> I want to download torrents, anyone suggest a program they like for doing so?
[02:40] <iNick> it avoids temptation (in my mind)
[02:40] <TheVault> Lemme guess, I gotta install Mplayer manually from the website?
[02:40] <gili> lonelystar:what do you mean can i hear you/?
[02:40] <K3nto> !c++ | EkTpBoT
[02:40] <rocca> K3nto: like in every new laptop actually
[02:40] <techie> cafuego there is a red bar going left to right back and forth, is that normal???
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <bobby> thanks wifi works will i be able to run beryl
[02:40] <merc> i still use su -, just out of habit.
[02:40] <Kronuz> hey, what's the password for root? in the liveCD
[02:40] <arrenlex> TheVault: What package did you install?
[02:40] <makuseru> there shouldnt be one Kronuz
[02:40] <Flannel> iNick: Right, but... You won't need to give them root access.  You can give them [whatever local things they need to change]  access with sudo.
[02:40] <EkToBoT> K3nto: ?
[02:40] <voidmage> Kronuz: shouldn't be a root password, but if you need root stuff use sudo
[02:41] <inpho> ANYone please?~!?!
[02:41] <dick_> Kronuz: the same password you use to log in to linux
[02:41] <K3nto> rocca: huh? your modem is built into your router?
[02:41] <TheVault> arrenlex: What package? I'm trying to install Mplayer
[02:41] <Kronuz> if I just press enter it says refused
[02:41] <Flannel> iNick: Otherwise, If they ever need to use sudo (for anything), they'll need the root password
[02:41] <arrenlex> TheVault: From where?
[02:41] <K3nto> EkToBoT: checking if ubotu knoew anything
[02:41] <rocca> K3nto: I never said I have a router
[02:41] <arrenlex> EkToBoT: g++ <file.cpp>
[02:41] <K3nto> rocca: modem i mean
[02:41] <TheVault> arrenlex: No place yet. I did sudo apt-get install gmplayer and it said could not find package
[02:41] <techie> Cafuego_ can you respond please to see if I should continue to allow program to install or abor?
[02:41] <gili> cube3: nice station
[02:41] <Kronuz> oh, okay
[02:41] <Kronuz> dmraid -r shows four devices
[02:41] <iNick> Flannel: "users" shouldn't have to change any system settings, if the system is setup right.  and if a change is requested, it has to be done via the "chain of command" if you know what I mean
[02:41] <techie> cafuego... I meant abort!
[02:42] <TheVault> arrenlex: Also went to the Add/Remove Program and it said something that this is unsupported or something and would not let me install
[02:42] <arrenlex> !mplayer-686 | TheVault
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <gili> h3xagram: you have VLC but it wont play xvids....is that what you are saying?
[02:42] <arrenlex> !info mplayer-686 | TheVault
[02:42] <EkToBoT> arrenlex: from terminal??
[02:42] <dick_> can anyone suggest a good program for torrents?
[02:42] <K3nto> rocca: explain your internet setup completely
[02:42] <ubotu> thevault: Package mplayer-686 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:42] <Kronuz> two of: /dev/sda: nvidia, "nvidia_ificadeg", stripe, ok, 145226110 sectors, data@ 0
[02:42] <Kronuz> and two of /dev/sdc: nvidia, "nvidia_dffefaej", stripe, ok, 488397166 sectors, data@ 0
[02:42] <arrenlex> Oh, that explains it.
[02:42] <TheVault> arrenlex: I can go into Synaptics and search for Mplayer and install it that way right?
[02:42] <Kronuz> I guess that means something is working
[02:42] <arrenlex> !info mplayer | TheVault
[02:42] <Flannel> iNick: er, why do you care about sudo passwords then?  The normal users won't be in the sudoers group, and won't have access to sudo
[02:42] <ubotu> thevault: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[02:42] <arrenlex> TheVault: Yes.
[02:43] <eck> dick_: if console applications are your thing, rtorrent is very good
[02:43] <TheVault> alrighty
[02:43] <TheVault> lemme try that
[02:43] <Kronuz> (I have two RAID arrays)
[02:43] <gili> yes it rules
[02:43] <SJ2000> Ahh!! Ubuntu hates my monitor
[02:43] <dick_> eck: thanks
[02:43] <iNick> Flannel: 'cuz you asked me 'why'.  :)
[02:43] <rocca> K3nto: My ADSL connection needs a login and password, but sometimes I move to other places where I use ADSL cable connection without login and password, and sometimes to other places where I use wifi, so my question is : is there a tool that can manage those 3 ways to get connected ?
[02:43] <arrenlex> EkToBoT: What do you imagine a GUI compiler would look like? XD
[02:43] <Flannel> iNick: right, but why do you care what password sudo uses then?  Back to your original question.  Why a root password?
[02:43] <iNick> Flannel: i just never have appreciated sudo, never liked it, and probably never will
[02:43] <EkToBoT> like dev maybee?
[02:44] <theilliniguy> !codec | theilliniguy
[02:44] <arrenlex> EkToBoT: Oh, are you looking for a development environment?
[02:44] <gili> come one folks,.....does no one here have the i915 chipset on laptop?
[02:44] <techie> cafuego..... I think this program is going through a LOOP!
[02:44] <iNick> Flannel: 'cuz it's a systemwide setting.  my mind associates systemwide settings, or tasks, with root.
[02:44] <EkToBoT> arrenlex: well just a c++ compiler
[02:44] <arrenlex> gili: I do. Problems?
[02:44] <TheVault> arrenlex: I did not find mplayer in the Synaptics Package Manager when I searched but I found a Plugin for Firefox
[02:44] <techie> cafuego_ it does not make sense for an installation program to take so LONG!
[02:44] <theilliniguy> how do I get the bot info for codecs?
[02:44] <TheVault> Guess I gotta install it manually
[02:44] <arrenlex> TheVault: You have multiverse enabled? You are running edgy?
[02:44] <iNick> Flannel: brought up with BSD based systems, and i'm being forced to run a debian-based Linux OS at work.
[02:44] <TheVault> I got 6.06 of Ubuntu
[02:45] <Flannel> iNick: .... Just remove all users from the sudoers file, and then just use su.
[02:45] <TheVault> and Yeah I do have all my respitories things enabled
[02:45] <iNick> Flannel: will the OS then prompt for the root's password?
[02:45] <gili> arrenlex: no no problems just trying to get the svideo output working....have you tried any of  these mods on the ubuntuforums?
[02:45] <iNick> Flannel: by removing the sudoers file?
[02:45] <Flannel> iNick: no.  That would require sudo.
[02:45] <Flannel> iNick: Not removing the sudoers file, justmaking no users be able to use sudo (including yourself)
[02:45] <iNick> Flannel: around, and around in circles we go.
[02:45] <arrenlex> gili: Oh, never needed svideo, sorry.
[02:46] <gili> cool
[02:46] <Flannel> iNick: It would make sudo, essentially not exist.  So, if you wanted to do anything, you'd have to pop open a root shell, and go from there
[02:46] <iNick> Flannel: will the OS then prompt for the root's password? (removing everybody from sudoers?)
[02:46] <cafuego_> techie: dude, I don't know. I've never used virtualbox.
[02:46] <gili> so does anyone here with any video chipset use svideo?
[02:46] <Flannel> iNick: er, when?  with su?  yes. sudo? no.  No passwords would ever satiate sudo.
[02:46] <iNick> Flannel: sucky!
[02:46] <Flannel> iNick: su already behaves like that
[02:47] <Flannel> iNick: Er, Why?  That's exactly what you wanted.
[02:47] <Flannel> iNick: to remove sudo, and use su instead
[02:47] <techie> cafuego.... ok man
[02:47] <mike01> how do i get sound working again in ubuntu?
[02:47] <Kronuz> has anyone used FakeRAID ?
[02:47] <userund> !sound mike01
[02:47] <iNick> Flannel: something's getting lost in the convo...  i asked to make the system prompt me for the ROOT's password (which was already enabled), when I run a tool like the network configuration (systemwide config thing)
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound mike01 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <userund> !sound | mike01
[02:48] <p47> I can't read my dvd's with gxine, could you help me please !
[02:48] <ubotu> mike01: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:48] <mike01> i already did all of that
[02:48] <mike01> none of it helped
[02:48] <Mythmon> does ubuntu come standard with some firewall that is making my server not work? (ubuntu 6.10 desktop edition, not server)
[02:48] <iNick> you said to remove the users from sudoers.  I asked if that will make the system prompt me.  you said no, it won't work then
[02:48] <mike01> it is detecting my ati hdtv wonder tv card as the default sound card
[02:48] <theilliniguy> !codecs | theilliniguy
[02:48] <mike01> so i am not getting any sound
[02:48] <Flannel> iNick: So, you want the convienence of sudo, but all the while you're complaining about how you dislike sudo, and wish you could use su?
[02:48] <Kronuz> I installed dmraid and dmraid -r shows four devices (for my two RAID0 arrays, I suppose...) andwhat it seems to be two different identifiers
[02:48] <theilliniguy> hmmm  how do I get info from the bot?
[02:48] <Kronuz> (for each array, I guess
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: lol he sounds a little torn
[02:49] <Kronuz> but in /dev/mapper I don't see anything but a control "file"
[02:49] <TheVault> I'm on the mplayer website but I am unsure which one I should download
[02:49] <TheVault> So many differ choices
[02:49] <Kronuz> aren't my arrays supposed to be there?
[02:49] <Kronuz> (at /dev/mapper)
[02:49] <iNick> Flannel: my main complaint has always been how Linux (in general) has been structured, so unfamiliar with the traditional AT&T and BSD Unix OSs.  I'm trying to get something I'd already be familiar with, and it doesn't sound like there are any viable solutions
[02:49] <Pelo> TheVault,  just use the one in synaptic
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: why not just use the one in the repos
[02:49] <arrenlex> TheVault: Use the one from the repos!
[02:50] <TheVault> repos?
[02:50] <arrenlex> !repos
[02:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:50] <Kronuz> Flannel, are you familiar with FakeRAID?
[02:50] <bigjohnto> who is familiar with xdisplay and pseudocolor?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: open a terminal... "sudo apt-get install mplayer" no quotes
[02:50] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Hey bro. Wanna help me out
[02:50] <Pelo> TheVault,  welcome to ubuntu,  menu > system > admin > synaptic
[02:50] <SuckFace> hi all DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[02:50] <bigjohnto> because I got a very challenging question
[02:50] <cube3|DJ> wow
[02:50] <arrenlex> !ops
[02:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:50] <SuckFace> oops DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[02:50] <Flannel> iNick: Yes, there is.  Just use su to get a root prompt, and DONT use sudo at all.
[02:51] <SuckFace> why does this keep happening? lmao DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[02:51] <bigjohnto>  ok, on windows I would use for instance Xming, and use a shell (xterm, putty.exe etc...) to log into my linux box.... I would them reroute the display (set the environement variable for display to my windows box xserver that xming would create) instead of using a fullscreen window to display 8 bit pseudocolor I prefered to use some kind of bufferish program that would recognize the remote program requires pseudocolor andjust emulat
[02:51] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: Get my reply back in the PM you sent me?
[02:51] <Mythmon> does ubuntu come default with some sort of firewall that makes any incoming connections not work? like a webserver?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: is your nickname registered, i sent you a PM
[02:51] <alex__> sent pm
[02:51] <bigjohnto> anyone have any xconfigish program to do that?
[02:51] <BrianG> how can i remove the kubuntu images when my computer boots and shuts down? i've tried removing the package kubuntu-grub-splashimages
[02:51] <Flannel> Mythmon: no.  Anything that listens will be able to
[02:51] <TheVault> IndyGunFreak: I got your message
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: no.. your nick probaby isn't registered
[02:51] <TheVault> probably
[02:52] <SJ2000> Ubuntu keeps defaulting to a video option which my monitor can't support. I'm in terminal and I've tried dpkg-reconfigure but I don't know enough about the intense detail of my hardware. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: do you have Aim/Yahoo/ICQ, etc..?
[02:52] <Kronuz> arghh!!
[02:52] <Mythmon> odd, im trying to set up xampp, and it kinda works locally, but not from another system
[02:52] <cafuego_> BrianG: You need to not boot with the `splash' boot param. just remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <iNick> Flannel: well, I guess I start with that.  thank you much for your time.
[02:52] <TheVault> Ummm
[02:52] <TheVault> I got MSN
[02:52] <cafuego_> BrianG: and/or regenerate the initrd images
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: i'm indygunfreak on the hotmail network, I think its the same as MSN
[02:52] <BrianG> i want it to be the ubuntu images, not the Kubuntu image cafuego_
[02:52] <Flannel> iNick: I don't see how thats exactly what you want.  If you want something different, ... I'm more than happy to help.  But reallyif you want it to be 'exactly like it was', then.. just don't use sudo, and use su instead.
[02:52] <TheVault> yup
[02:52] <TheVault> alright, login to msn and i'll add you
[02:53] <bigjohnto> so?, no ideas anyone know of a different channel that might be able to help me
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> i'm on
[02:53] <Flannel> Mythmon: why xampp?  Just install a real LAMP install.
[02:53] <cafuego_> BrianG: Then all you need to do is regenerate the initrd images; 'dpkg-reconfigure' for all installed kernel packages should do the trick.
[02:53] <theilliniguy> how do I set "file associations" in Ubuntu?
[02:53] <Flannel> Mythmon: but, probably has somethign to do with the XAMPP software restricting itself to certain IPs
[02:53] <tjl30> he I wanted to try out the Kdesktop how would I do that?
[02:53] <BrianG> cafuego_: i'll try that, thanks
[02:53] <Mythmon> i had xampp on hand, i should try a normal LAMP install?
[02:53] <arrenlex> tjl30: kde? install kubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <bigjohnto> so?, no ideas anyone know of a different channel that might be able to help me
[02:53] <bigjohnto>  ok, on windows I would use for instance Xming, and use a shell (xterm, putty.exe etc...) to log into my linux box.... I would them reroute the display (set the environement variable for display to my windows box xserver that xming would create) instead of using a fullscreen window to display 8 bit pseudocolor I prefered to use some kind of bufferish program that would recognize the remote program requires pseudocolor andjust emulat
[02:54] <Kronuz> help!!
[02:54] <omeil> can someone help me please. i want to dual boot, my ntfs drive is on /dev/sda3. i know i need to edit the menu.lst file i tried but i couldn't get it to work properly please help someone :)
[02:54] <tjl30> well I am on ubuntu
[02:54] <bimberi> !defaultapp > theilliniguy
[02:54] <tjl30> so is there a way I can install kde but keep gnome
[02:54] <Flannel> Mythmon: you should.  XAMPP really came about because of windows, where it's more difficult for people to install all those things and have them be managed... reasonably.
[02:54] <Flannel> tjl30: sure.  Install kubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <arrenlex> tjl30: Of course. That command won't remove gnome. You'll be able to pick which to run at login.
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> TheVault: are you there?
[02:55] <theilliniguy> bimberi thx
[02:55] <bimberi> theilliniguy: np :)
[02:55] <tjl30> so do I install the kubuntu-desktop through terminal?
[02:55] <Flannel> Mythmon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP on a walkthrough to setting it up
[02:55] <Kronuz> dmraid -r and dmraid -s show my arrays okay
[02:55] <bigjohnto>  ok, on windows I would use for instance Xming, and use a shell (xterm, putty.exe etc...) to log into my linux box.... I would them reroute the display (set the environement variable for display to my windows box xserver that xming would create) instead of using a fullscreen window to display 8 bit pseudocolor I prefered to use some kind of bufferish program that would recognize the remote program requires pseudocolor andjust emulat
[02:55] <Flannel> !repeat | bigjohnto
[02:55] <ubotu> bigjohnto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:55] <Kronuz> but I can't see them at /dev/mapper :S why?
[02:55] <bigjohnto> ok really is their any place i can go to please?
[02:55] <bigjohnto> oh i didn't mean to repeat
[02:55] <bimberi> tjl30: yes, or using a package manager such as Synaptic
[02:56] <Dakana> So I'm sitting pretty on a brand new install of Ubuntu 6.10 from the CD. However, I've got 138 updates, some of which I am positive will break my drivers and cause X to not work on restart. How do I go about finding out what is breaking my drivers? This is my third install in two days...
[02:56] <omeil> so can anyone help me?
[02:56] <bigjohnto> i accidently hit the up arrow in here when i thought i was in putty and hit enter.... execuse me:P
[02:56] <bimberi> tjl30: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[02:56] <Flannel> bigjohnto: er, So, sounds like you want... to tunnel X through SSH? or...
[02:56] <KeeNaF> guys, why I cant stream video? I want to watch trailer from apple website but during the play time, it shows no video .. :( .. please help me
[02:56] <tjl30> how large is kubuntu-desktop?
[02:56] <tjl30> I only have 8 GB
[02:56] <bigjohnto> Flannel, yes
[02:56] <bigjohnto> I am able to with no problems, but pseudocolor emulation is killing me
[02:56] <ubuntu> #-se
[02:56] <arrenlex> tjl30: It will tell you before you install.
[02:57] <omeil> so kubuntu is ubuntu with the kde dekstop?
[02:57] <tjl30> ok thanks
[02:57] <gili> if it takes mark 5 hours to paint a wall which takes sara 10 hours, how long will it take them to do it together...?
[02:57] <arrenlex> omeil: Yes
[02:57] <tjl30> yes
[02:57] <Flannel> bigjohnto: That's pretty standard.  There's plenty of tutorials out there on the web (search for X tunneling), it's fairly distribution agnostic, so you don't need to worry about finding an ubuntu specific one too much
[02:57] <ubuntu> #-se
[02:57] <Mythmon> gili: isnt that a question that you cannot find the answer for?
[02:57] <Flannel> omeil: just like ubuntu is ubuntu with a Gnome desktop
[02:57] <arrenlex> gili: 3.
[02:57] <Mythmon> without actually trying it
[02:57] <arrenlex> gili: 3.333... actually.
[02:57] <Mythmon> guess not
[02:57] <rbil> Dakana: usually the only thing that will break a graphics driver is a kernel update. then the proprietary driver has to also be updated to match the kernel you're using.
[02:57] <KeeNaF> guys, why I cant stream video? I want to watch trailer from apple website but during the play time, it shows no video .. :( .. please help me
[02:57] <bigjohnto> lol, Flannel, I can eumlate 8 + 24 bit simultaneously in ubuntu/unix/linux no problems
[02:57] <gili> oh F....sorry wrong channel
[02:57] <bigjohnto> I want to do it in windows
[02:57] <gili> thanks thought
[02:57] <omeil> oh ok. umm anyone know how to edit the menu.lst properly?
[02:58] <arrenlex> gili: yw ;)
[02:58] <SJ2000> I says Ubuntu is trying to run at 161Hz, isn' that a tad high?
[02:58] <techie> can anybody help I try to run my synaptic package and it tells me: Error, dkpg was interrupt  you must manually run dpkg configure a to correct the problem
[02:58] <arrenlex> gili: 1/3+1/10=1, If I recall grade 9 correctly (no guarantees)
[02:58] <gili> yes i know i am a math teacher
[02:58] <techie> cafuego... this happened after trying to install the virtual box. Can you help?
[02:58] <Flannel> omeil: follow the instructions in it.  Edit only the top bit (all the comments) if you need boot parameters, edit only the stuff after the end of the 'automagic kernels' if you need more manual boot options
[02:58] <gili> i am talking in another geeky math channel
[02:58] <techie> cafuego, now I cant' run my synaptic package....
[02:59] <Dakana> rbil: I've been having a lot of trouble with the ati drivers - after I updated the kernel to .11, I built the drivers from source and still kept having an issue where the x server would become completely unresponsive, even to ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:59] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-se
[02:59] <Flannel> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-se
[02:59] <wheels3572> Does ./configure and make come in a tar.gz file or is that part of build essiantials?
[02:59] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-se
[02:59] <Flannel> ubuntu: you need "/join #ubuntu-se"
[02:59] <rbil> Dakana: well if it's working now, just don't include any kernel update until you have the driver situation sorted out
[02:59] <arrenlex> wheels3572: ./configure comes in the file, but make is part of b-e.
[02:59] <bruenig> wheels3572, ./configure is you running the script, make come sin build-essential
[02:59] <techie> How do I run this problem when trying to run Synaptic: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:59] <arrenlex> wheels3572: ./configure will fail without b-e anyway.
[03:00] <arrenlex> wheels3572: Since it won't find a compiler, which is in b-e.
[03:00] <gili> thanks all
[03:00] <omeil> flannel: i tried but i get Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
[03:00] <bruenig> techie, close synaptic and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:00] <rbil> Dakana: and remember with Grub you can always go back and boot a previous kernel
[03:00] <gili> arrenlex: its actually 1/10  + 1/5  = 1
[03:01] <KeeNaF> guys, why I cant stream video? I want to watch trailer from apple website but during the play time, it shows no video or browser suddenly closed.. :( .. please help me
[03:01] <arrenlex> gili: Unless 1+2 != 2+1, that's what I said. xD
[03:01] <Dakana> rbil: Right... but I lose track of which drivers I had for which kernel :P
[03:01] <wheels3572> arrenlex, Ok cuz I wanted to install firefox 2.0.0.2 but couldn't find the ./configure in the firefox-2.0.0.2.tar.gz
[03:01] <gili> and yes its 3.33333hours
[03:01] <arrenlex> (18:58:18) arrenlex: gili: 1/3+1/10=1, If I recall grade 9 correctly (no guarantees)
[03:01] <techie> bruenig, i will try thanks
[03:01] <kitche> !w32codecs | KeeNaF
[03:01] <ubotu> KeeNaF: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:01] <arrenlex> gili: Oh, wait. Yeah, that's what I meant, sorry. I confused the answer with the question.
[03:01] <rbil> Dankana: I hear you. It can be a pain.
[03:01] <bruenig> wheels3572, that is already compiled, all you do is extract it and run the firefox script to launch firefox
[03:01] <gili> haha
[03:01] <wheels3572> bruenig, how would I do that.
[03:02] <gili> i am surprised ubotu has not yelled at me yet
[03:02] <wheels3572> I extracted it
[03:02] <techie> bruenig, now I get this: <bruenig> wheels3572, that is already compiled, all you do is extract it
[03:02] <arrenlex> wheels3572: Firefox needs to be made using a special file. Please don't mess with it. Just use the repo build or the official release.
[03:02] <KeeNaF> ok .. tq kitche and ubotu ... I try 1st ..
[03:02] <arrenlex> wheels3572: Oh, did you download the release? That's a binary. It's ready to run.
[03:02] <wheels3572> arrenlex, ok
[03:02] <bruenig> wheels3572, go into the directory and double click the script that says firefox
[03:02] <techie> bruenig...sorry wrong message. let me try again.
[03:02] <bruenig> techie, that is a weird error
[03:02] <wheels3572> bruenig, ok
[03:02] <gili> ok so one last time......has anyone had any experience with S-vide output Xorg modifications?
[03:02] <soyke> how do i get X to run at a sane resolution?
[03:02] <wheels3572> arrenlex, I downloaded from firefox site
[03:02] <arrenlex> !fixres | soyke
[03:02] <SJ2000> The Gnome on Ubuntu Server works correctly, why doesn't the one on Ubuntu Desktop work? Would it have something to do with 64bit?
[03:03] <ubotu> soyke: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:03] <arrenlex> wheels3572: Just run the "firefox" program in that tarball.
[03:03] <SJ2000> !fixres
[03:03] <Kronuz> how come I don't see my RAID arrays at /dev/mapper ?
[03:03] <gili> bueno.....feliz noche chicos!!!
[03:03] <wheels3572> arrenlex, that's my problem im not sure which file fires up firefox lol
[03:03] <techie> bruenig E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:03] <techie> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[03:03] <kitche> Kronuz: did you set the raid up correctly?
[03:04] <Kronuz> I guess I did
[03:04] <arrenlex> wheels3572: The file "firefox".
[03:04] <bruenig> techie, how did you install it
[03:04] <Kronuz> kitche, dmraid -s shows them alright
[03:04] <techie> bruenig, should i remove the virtualbox.
[03:04] <bruenig> techie, try it, sudo apt-get remove virtualbox
[03:04] <techie> bruening. I downloade it from virtualbox.org and then double click on it
[03:04] <utilisateur> my ./configure fails because : checking default filename output ... cannot create executable files , any ideas , already installed build-essentials..
[03:04] <Kronuz> kitche, as well as dmraid -r
[03:04] <soyke> why doesn't X obey /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:04] <bruenig> soyke, did you restart x
[03:04] <Kronuz> kitche, it shows the IDs and all (the size, etc.)
[03:05] <Kronuz> but there's nothing at /dev/mapper :(
[03:05] <kitche> Kronuz: see if you have anything in /dev/md thinkt hat is another folder for raid but I m not familar with raid myself
[03:05] <arrenlex> utilisateur: What's the output of dpkg -l build-essential | grep ^ii | wc -l
[03:05] <Kronuz> kitche, nope :(
[03:05] <soyke> bruenig xorgconf already had 1280x768 in it, but it didn't use that resolution...
[03:05] <Kronuz> there's only /dev/mapper, /dev/mem and /dev/mixer there
[03:05] <techie> bruenig, when I try that command i get this:  sudo apt-get remove virtualbox
[03:05] <soyke> err, 1280x1024
[03:06] <bruenig> techie, that is the command
[03:06] <techie> and then it tell me: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:06] <techie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:06] <soyke> in slackware it works fine...
[03:06] <bruenig> techie, close synaptic like I already told you
[03:06] <Kronuz> kitche, at /dev/mapper there's only a file called control
[03:06] <utilisateur> arrenlex: wait, i'll go check upstairs, i don't have internet in my ubuntu ...
[03:06] <techie> bruenig synaptic is closed
[03:06] <bruenig> techie, close the update manager
[03:06] <kupesoft> utilisateur: INTERNET IN YOUR UBUNTU!
[03:06] <arrenlex> utilisateur: How did you install build-essential and all its dependencies without the interwebs?
[03:07] <techie> bruenig where is the update manager.
[03:07] <kitche> techie: alsoif your not root do sudo
[03:07] <Kronuz> could it be that I have two arrays and not just one?
[03:07] <leanbeef> does anyone happen to know if you can rearrange contact groups in kopete?
[03:07] <bruenig> techie, you have some package management thing going somewhere
[03:07] <kupesoft> arrenlex: I think build-essential is on the CD,
[03:07] <infidel> ok i was working on a theme now both my taskbars are gone how can i get them back?
[03:07] <techie> bruenig apparently but I do not see it or know where....
[03:07] <soyke> hello
[03:07] <arrenlex> !hi | soyke
[03:07] <utilisateur> download downstatires, copy upstairs , and install upstairs
[03:07] <ubotu> soyke: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:07] <soyke> exit
[03:07] <utilisateur> down to get dependencies...
[03:07] <Frogzoo> infidel: run gnome-panel
[03:07] <utilisateur> and up to install
[03:07] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Are you sure you installed all the dependencies?
[03:07] <utilisateur> funny$
[03:08] <soyke> did i get disconnected?
[03:08] <Kronuz> (it shouldn't, both arrays are reported okay by "dmraid -s")
[03:08] <infidel> Frogzoo, doesn't work, says there is a panel running exiting
[03:08] <techie> bruenig, what shall i do next?
[03:08] <utilisateur> i'm just sur that i'm really pissed of with the situation
[03:08] <bruenig> techie, I mean I am not there so I don't know what you have running exactly, you can restart your computer to make sure nothing is running if you want
[03:08] <Kronuz> they even have the name there and everything, they just don't show at /dev/mapper
[03:08] <Frogzoo> infidel: logout/login
[03:08] <utilisateur> pretty sur,
[03:08] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Why don't you have internet?
[03:08] <techie> ok i will try to restart and be back and then see what is happening.
[03:08] <kupesoft> arrenlex: He has no internet in his Ubuntu, silly,
[03:09] <infidel> Frogzoo, didn't work either
[03:09] <utilisateur> is it really important to have internet to get my box working correctly
[03:09] <arrenlex> kupesoft: Yep. I'm asking why.
[03:09] <xelados> I downloaded a mouse cursor theme from gnome-look.org, but don't know how to install it. I checked "Mouse" under the preferences in GNOME, but was unable to find anything for themes.
[03:09] <utilisateur> ?
[03:09] <infidel> Frogzoo, if i sudo gnome-panel it comes up
[03:09] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Well, you can do without, I guess, but what is there to do on a computer without the internet?
[03:09] <nero> if a kill -9 isnt killing a process, any suggestions as to how to "force" the kill?
[03:09] <utilisateur> cables are not long enought :)
[03:09] <Frogzoo> infidel: don't sudo gnome-panel - all that's doing is running as a different user - eg. root,
[03:10] <arrenlex> !wireless | utilisateur
[03:10] <arrenlex> :)
[03:10] <ubotu> utilisateur: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:10] <utilisateur> devlop
[03:10] <utilisateur> :)
[03:10] <utilisateur> don't have wifi router
[03:10] <infidel> Frogzoo, i know, but like i said it's the only way it comes up
[03:10] <xelados> Anyone know how to install a mouse cursor theme?
[03:10] <mike01> i rebooted; sound is still broken
[03:10] <xelados> I have the .desktop file and everything.
[03:11] <omeil_> Can someone help me edit my menu.lst file i keep getting Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format when i try to boot windows xp
[03:11] <bruenig> .desktop is an application menu entry I thought
[03:11] <xelados> Maybe it's .theme..
[03:11] <xelados> regardless, I have the file needed for the mouse cursor theme
[03:11] <xelados> but no idea where to put it or the source images
[03:11] <Flannel> omeil_: Pastebin it
[03:11] <mike01> sound card is not detected
[03:11] <xelados> And the tarball didn't come with a README
[03:11] <utilisateur> don't have money to get it..
[03:11] <utilisateur> so
[03:11] <xelados> or INSTALL or anything :<
[03:12] <omeil_> !paste
[03:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:12] <ToddEDM> anyone know how i could switch to ALSA mixer??? im using OSS right now, and it aint working
[03:12] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Then take your computer downstairs. xD Or dualboot.
[03:12] <utilisateur> :) , to heavy , if i move it, it will be throw the window
[03:12] <soyke> i deleted teh 800x600 option from xorgconf, and it still goes into 800x600....
[03:12] <ToddEDM> yes, im still having sound issues
[03:13] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Then dualboot.
[03:13] <utilisateur> to getcan u explain ?
[03:13] <omeil_> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8872/plain/
[03:13] <Frogzoo> infidel: well you can try to fix it, or you can clear out your ~/.gnome* settings, & restart gdm - but you'll lose all your gnome settings obviously
[03:13] <arrenlex> utilisateur: What?
[03:13] <techie> bruenig, I rebooted , so please give me the command again to remove this stupid package Virtualbox. Also i opened the synaptic and got error: again about reinstalling virtualbox
[03:13] <utilisateur> dualboot ?
[03:14] <bjohnson> I have an old 19" HP CRT monitor I'm trying to get running with ubuntu.  I'm playing with xorg.conf.  Does anyone know what horiz settings might work with a monitor whose back plate says 50-60 HZ?  I assume that's vert refresh rate
[03:14] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Yeah.
[03:14] <rbil> ToddEDM: double click on speaker on panel and then in mixer, click File ... Change device
[03:14] <Flannel> omeil_: and, selecting what gives the error?
[03:14] <utilisateur> how ?
[03:14] <arrenlex> !dualboot | utilisateur
[03:14] <ubotu> utilisateur: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:14] <omeil_> Flannel: I deleted it :(
[03:14] <ToddEDM> rbil: ALSA doesnt come up as an option in there
[03:14] <Frogzoo> bjohnson: you want to set the xorg.conf params HorizSync & VertRefresh
[03:14] <omeil_> Flannel: one sec lemme see if i got a back up
[03:14] <utilisateur> i dont need a dualboot .., i don't want to have windows..
[03:14] <utilisateur> i juste want a linux running fine
[03:14] <|omegabeta|> .
[03:14] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Then just install ubuntu on the downstairs machine!
[03:14] <soyke> does ubuntu include that xorgconfig script anywhere? the one that asks you all the questions and writes xorgconfig for you?
[03:15] <utilisateur> it's not mine
[03:15] <arrenlex> soyke: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:15] <xelados> soyke: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:15] <Frogzoo> soyke: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:15] <techie> anyone what is the command to remove the virtualbox package
[03:15] <utilisateur> all u propose is to have internet in my box , to repaire it$
[03:15] <rbil> ToddEDM: sorry, then I don't know? Maybe your sound device doesn't support alsa?
[03:15] <ToddEDM> utilisateur: ... ditto, i want linux running fine too......
[03:15] <utilisateur> sounds like a prerequisis to get ubuntu running*
[03:15] <bjohnson> Frogzoo: yeah.  I assume 50-60hz is the vertrefesh.  Does that sounds right?
[03:16] <B|00d|u5T> what up all
[03:16] <omeil_> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8873/
[03:16] <utilisateur> have internet to  use apt-get...
[03:16] <ToddEDM> i dont know rbil its an nvidia card in my laptop
[03:16] <arrenlex> utilisateur: What did that command say?
[03:16] <arrenlex> utilisateur: How did you install ubuntu? From CD?
[03:16] <mortici> is there anyway to get my KDM/KDE to load with num lock on?
[03:16] <techie> bruenig what is the command again to remove virtualbox in terminal
[03:16] <B|00d|u5T> what up all
[03:16] <utilisateur> :) , 2 minutes, i'll go upstairs check
[03:16] <B|00d|u5T> im trying to figure out how to add repositories
[03:16] <B|00d|u5T> in ubuntu
[03:17] <Flannel> !repositories | B|00d|u5T
[03:17] <ubotu> B|00d|u5T: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:17] <utilisateur> i have to write it down before
[03:17] <arrenlex> mortici: Open kcontrol > Peripherals > Keyboard > Numlock on KDE startup
[03:17] <B|00d|u5T> i got that help page and im still a little lost
[03:17] <Frogzoo> bjohnson: wrong settings can destroy your monitor - don't guess, google first
[03:17] <utilisateur> yep , get it from CD Live
[03:17] <Flannel> omeil_: er, you need to move your windows XP thing below that bottom line, or it'll get removed as soon as you upgrade your kernel
[03:17] <arrenlex> utilisateur: You can mount the CD as a repository and apt-get packages from it.
[03:17] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Run the command "man apt-cdrom" to learn how.
[03:17] <rbil> ToddEDM, maybe check to see whether alsa server is running. sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart     ... maybe?
[03:17] <bjohnson> Frogzoo: google is coming up with nothing.  Even the HP site doesn't have anything about this 12 year old monitor
[03:17] <amoun> Hi folks I'm net to Linux and have installed ubuntu 6.10
[03:17] <omeil_> Flannel: oh, umm does that look right (hd0,0)
[03:18] <ToddEDM> rbil: i will try anything at this point
[03:18] <utilisateur> there is not all the packages in the cd
[03:18] <Kronuz> arghh! my devices are not there at /dev/mapper and I don't know what to do :S
[03:18] <arrenlex> utilisateur: No, but I'm pretty sure build-essential is there.
[03:18] <bjohnson> Frogzoo: if I kill it, I woun't be any further behind than I am now
[03:18] <techie> Can anybody tell me the terminal command to remove virtualbox? it got corrupted
[03:18] <Flannel> omeil_: yeah, that's hda1
[03:18] <amoun> using xp at the moment as I can't get on line with my laptop
[03:18] <utilisateur> i got the .deb
[03:18] <Frogzoo> bjohnson: your choice dude
[03:18] <utilisateur> of build-essentiel
[03:18] <techie> and is messing up my synaptic package
[03:18] <omeil_> flannel: oh ok. so move it down the line then grub-update?
[03:18] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Yes, and all of the dependencies?
[03:18] <arrenlex> utilisateur: If you mount the CD as a repository, it will automatically install all dependencies.
[03:19] <Flannel> omeil_: shrug, the update won't do anything.  What error are you getting?
[03:19] <amoun> The problem I'm trying to understand at the moment is one on font rendering. Anyone up for it??
[03:19] <infidel> Frogzoo, i got the top panel pack any idea on how to get the bottom?
[03:19] <Flannel> omeil_: the update generates a new menu.lst, based on new kernels
[03:19] <techie> cafuego_ this is a mess, do you know the command to remove this stupid program Virtualbox  via terminal?
[03:19] <Flannel> techie: how did you install it?
[03:19] <ToddEDM> okayyyyyyyy i did that rbil , but nothing in the volume>file>change device
[03:19] <cafuego_> sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox
[03:19] <B|00d|u5T> k i read that site im just havin a lil prob understandin complete
[03:19] <utilisateur> arrenlex: , it doesn't install if there is not all the dependencies
[03:19] <rbil> ToddEDM: did it say it was restarting?
[03:20] <omeil_> Flannel: Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format.
[03:20] <Frogzoo> infidel: right click -> new panel
[03:20] <ToddEDM> ohhhh nope
[03:20] <Flannel> omeil_: when you do what?
[03:20] <ToddEDM> errors
[03:20] <arrenlex> utilisateur: All the dependencies will be on the CD.
[03:20] <ToddEDM> hold on
[03:20] <techie> Flannel I downloded and try to install deb and somebody here added some library files to it. now is messing up my synpatic package. how do i remove via terminal?
[03:20] <B|00d|u5T> can somebody pleaes help walk me thorugh so i can understand and learn how to do it?
[03:20] <omeil_> Flannel: select Windows XP Professional from the grub boot loader
[03:20] <ToddEDM>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                         * warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: get_control:149: Cannot read control info '2,0,0,Capture Volume,1': Invalid argument'...
[03:20] <Flannel> omeil_: oh.  Right.  Which partition is your windows on?
[03:20] <omeil_> Flannel: i installed ubuntu on first then, i did a ghost backup on the other patition of my XP
[03:20] <techie> cafuego, thanks I just put that command and hope it worked.
[03:21] <omeil_> Flannel: /dev/sda3
[03:21] <Flannel> omeil_: the hd0,0 is wrong.  That needs to be hd0,2
[03:21] <Flannel> omeil_: for the windows boot
[03:21] <omeil_> Flannel: oh ok lemme try it
[03:21] <ToddEDM> warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control #24 (Invalid argument)'...
[03:22] <techie> Flannel or cafuego i get this now in synaptic: E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:22] <techie> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[03:22] <omeil_> Flannel: should i still put windows at the bottom?
[03:22] <infidel> Frogzoo, not exactly the same is it?
[03:22] <ToddEDM> anyone know that to do with those errors?
[03:22] <Flannel> omeil_: windows needs to be after the "### End Debian automagic kernels list" line.  Always.
[03:22] <techie> flannel how is that possible when cafuego just gave me the command to purge it.
[03:22] <omeil_> Flannel: oh ok then lemme go test it thx
[03:22] <ToddEDM> lalala
[03:23] <techie> Flannel how do i get rid of this?
[03:23] <amoun> Anywhere/one to discuss font rendering?
[03:23] <Flannel> omeil_: any boot entry thing between that and the begin of that (line 52 of that paste) gets rewritten each time you get a new kernel (thats why those option things are there, they stay, and are used to generate the kernel parameters)
[03:23] <riqz> hey fellas
[03:23] <Dna^> hi
[03:24] <Dna^> does cedega is support to ubuntu
[03:24] <Dna^> 5.04?
[03:24] <riqz> I was wondering if someone could tell me some good Ubuntu widgets to use... Im using gdesklets but they seem a bit minimalistic?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> I've got some FLV files, they play fine, but no audio
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> !flv
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <techie> Flannel, I use this command: sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox but it did not work apparently in helping synaptic
[03:24] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: They play in what?
[03:24] <riqz> !widget
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <ToddEDM> !audio
[03:24] <krash123> hi all
[03:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: anything, xine, mplayer, totem, all of them play fine, but no audio.
[03:24] <riqz> arrenlex: hey mate
[03:24] <kb9tua> while trying to install 6.06, the installer crashes. Something about ubiquity. Help!
[03:25] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: And these players play audio in other movies fine?
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth> dumb question... if I have a launcher that uses gksu <insert program name>  is there a way to put my password in so I don't have to do it each time?
[03:25] <arrenlex> riqz: Hiya.
[03:25] <krash123> what program should i use for hd partitioning ?
[03:25] <Flannel> Dna^: 5.04 isn't supported anymore by canonical, you should upgrade.  As for whether cedega work on it, you'd have to ask the cedega people
[03:25] <cycro> a little help?
[03:25] <riqz> arrenlex: u got any good widgets i could install?
[03:25] <voidmage> what file is the list of installed packages stored on?
[03:25] <arrenlex> riqz: Nope. Don't run gnome.
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: before i screwed up my PC and had to reinstall ubuntu(completely my fault), i remember i googled a site over this problem and found a fix, but now i can't find it.
[03:25] <riqz> arrenlex: dang
[03:25] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: And these players play audio in other movies fine?
[03:25] <krash123> what program should i use for hd partitioning ?
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, perfectly
[03:26] <amoun> Hi Again. Does the KDE environment render fonts differently, better maybe?
[03:26] <mike01> think ill just upgrade to fiesty and hope that it works
[03:26] <mike01> stupid sound card
[03:26] <Flannel> krash123: gparted works fine.  There's also a partitioner in the isntaller, if that (installing) is what youre doing.
[03:26] <riqz> arrenlex: u use kde?
[03:26] <arrenlex> amoun: I've never had problems with KDE font rendering, while fonts in other applications were distorted.
[03:26] <arrenlex> riqz: Yes.
[03:26] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Could you run mplayer from the command-line on one of these mysterious movies, and pastebin all output?
[03:26] <techie> cafuego, after I use your command and entered password, this is what I get now: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:26] <techie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: yeah, hang on
[03:26] <krash123> flannel, no, i already installed..
[03:27] <techie> cafuego does it make sense to you.
[03:27] <Flannel> krash123: then gparted will work for you
[03:27] <krash123> thanks
[03:27] <matju> how do i burn ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso (732336128 bytes) if both CD recorders that I have, say that a 80 minute disc is too small?
[03:27] <Kronuz> ... seems I won't be able to install Ubuntu... at least today :(
[03:27] <ToddEDM> it might be the DVD?
[03:27] <Flannel> krash123: but, you can't do any partitioning on mounted drives, so if you're modifying the partitions already in use, you'll probably need the liveCD
[03:27] <amoun> Thanks arrenlex . . Can I install the necessary packages to transform ubuntu or do I have to load Kubuntu to sort the fonts?
[03:27] <zcat[1] > matju: overburn
[03:28] <arrenlex> matju: That's 698.4 MB. How big are your CDs?
[03:28] <zcat[1] > sounds like they might be 650's
[03:28] <techie> cafuego. did you read the error message I sent you.
[03:29] <matju> arrenlex: they're advertised as "80 minute / 700 MB"
[03:29] <arrenlex> amoun: No idea, sorry.
[03:29] <arrenlex> matju: Then it should fit. Tight squeeze, but...
[03:29] <zcat[1] > matju: what are you using to burn them?
[03:29] <arrenlex> matju: What are you trying to burn it in
[03:29] <techie> Flannel u still there?
[03:29] <amoun> OK arrenlex. Thanks
[03:30] <Flannel> matju: 700MB CDs are the size required for the ISO, and they do fit.
[03:30] <ToddEDM> hahahahaha i have no idea what i did, but my sound is working!!!
[03:30] <ToddEDM> ahhhhh the sweet sound of the Hip
[03:30] <matju> zcat[1] : both the gnome file manager and /usr/bin/cdrecord
[03:30] <rbil> ToddEDM: great :-)
[03:30] <ToddEDM> ;)
[03:30] <ToddEDM> im proud of myself
[03:30] <ToddEDM> aha
[03:30] <ToddEDM> got my vis card installed, now the sound
[03:30] <utilisateur> in fact , my build-essential is not well installed, how can i install it
[03:30] <rbil> ToddEDM: had i known it was hip you were after, I would have ignored you :-) just kidding
[03:30] <ToddEDM> haha
[03:31] <darek214> can any1 help me get sound working for tv? The video is displayed but there is no sound. any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:31] <zcat[1] > matju: well, cdrecord should id the media.. what's it say?
[03:31] <ToddEDM> its the only one that plays, its in .flac
[03:31] <Flannel> utilisateur: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <ToddEDM> how can i play .mp3s?
[03:31] <utilisateur> no net
[03:31] <arrenlex> matju: Pass the -overburn switch.
[03:31] <amoun> \bye
[03:31] <rbil> !codes | ToddEDM
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: now this is wierd, when i run it from terminal, it runs audio fine
[03:31] <arrenlex> utilisateur: From the cdrom, like I said.
[03:31] <rbil> !codecs | ToddEDM
[03:31] <ubotu> ToddEDM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:31] <ToddEDM> !codecs
[03:31] <Flannel> utilisateur: use apt-cdrom to add the CD you do have to your repositories, then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: The terminal solves all problems. :)
[03:32] <ToddEDM> thanks
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: lol
[03:32] <riqz> arrenlex: gnome rocks man!
[03:32] <matju> arrenlex: i'm already trying that now
[03:32] <arrenlex> riqz: Enjoy it.
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: but how can i get it to work with the gui version?
[03:32] <matju> zcat[1] : which line do you want? what does it start with?
[03:32] <utilisateur> apt-cdrom add gives weird errors
[03:32] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Can't answer that without knowing what the problem is.
[03:32] <arrenlex> utilisateur: It's really hard to debug "weird errors".
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: hang on, i'll pastebin everything there.
[03:33] <zcat[1] > matju: somewhere in the output it should say what size the disks are. You shouldn't need -overburn if they really are 700M disks.
[03:33] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: If it ran fine, then there's nothing to pastebin. Must be some settings in your gui.
[03:33] <techie> Flannel this is the error now:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:33] <techie> flannel Can you help
[03:33] <utilisateur> long file names locked..
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: yeah, i guess that makes sense
[03:33] <Flannel> techie: if you're not using sudo, use sudo.  If you are using sudo, close any other package managers (synaptic, etc)
[03:34] <Flannel> utilisateur: What command did you give to get that error?
[03:34] <Allen3373> that was wierd.. couldn't see anyones posts. had to reconnect
[03:34] <techie> Flannel I closed all the packages.
[03:34] <utilisateur> apt-cdrom add
[03:34] <techie> ok how I use the sudo command to remove the program then
[03:34] <Allen3373> can anyone help me with installing drivers using ndiswrapper? it's telling me ndiswrapper is not a valid command
[03:34] <utilisateur> i forgot sudo ?
[03:34] <Flannel> utilisateur: sounds like it
[03:34] <arrenlex> !ndiswrapper | Allen3373
[03:34] <zcat[1] > fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg ? :-)
[03:34] <ubotu> Allen3373: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:35] <utilisateur> upstairs...
[03:35] <techie> Flannel what is the sudo command I should use them to remove the program Virtualbox?
[03:35] <leeba> Hello..what is the command for network configuration for my ubuntu server..also do i use sudo or su or sudo su?
[03:35] <riqz> Anyone know of any good widgets please guys?
[03:36] <Kronuz> I guess dmraid "won't work with my configuration"
[03:36] <matju> zcat[1] : i don't know where that "somewhere" is. i only see lines about the device and the driver.
[03:36] <utilisateur> the apt-cdrom ends clean :)*
[03:36] <kb9tua> ???ubuntu installer crashes??? help!
[03:37] <utilisateur> apt-get install in progress , thx
[03:37] <techie> Flannel give me the sudo command to remove the program then!!
[03:38] <leeba> i only have one ethernet device..probably eth0 and it gets its config from a DHCP server..so i probably need to enter Network Configuration atuo eth0 the iface eth0 inet dhcp but do i precede it with sudo?
[03:38] <utilisateur> thx guys
[03:38] <utilisateur> compiling works fine now
[03:38] <arrenlex> utilisateur: yw. What are you compiling?
[03:38] <owner__> can someone help me test my php files
[03:38] <techie> What's the sudo command to remove virtualbox?
[03:38] <Radica1Faith> Help! I can't put my wireless card in monitor mode!
[03:38] <owner__> they will not run on localhost
[03:39] <zcat[1] > matju: well I'm stumped.
[03:39] <arrenlex> techie: Reboot. Then run sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox
[03:39] <techie> Flannel, what is the Sudo command in terminal to remove the VirtualBox? Can you read me?
[03:39] <techie> arrenlex. thanks.
[03:39] <utilisateur> arrenlex: tring to get a web environement working , apache, php , mysql...
[03:39] <arrenlex> Flannel: Not a word. It was easier than trying to figure out what was holding the lockfile.
[03:40] <owner__> i cannot run test.php
[03:40] <utilisateur> and without internet, pretty long to get it done
[03:40] <arrenlex> utilisateur: Make sure those packages aren't on the CD before you compile them.
[03:40] <Flannel> utilisateur: which CD do you have?
[03:40] <utilisateur> livecd
[03:40] <matju> zcat[1] : shrug, thanks anyway
[03:40] <utilisateur> 6.10 i think
[03:41] <zcat[1] > utilisateur: bug shortcut to get a working web server... add the !seveas repo then apt-get install ubuntu-lamp.
[03:41] <Flannel> utilisateur: Grab a real CD.  The alternate, or server.  It's a real repository on there.  And, the server has LAMP on it in packages.
[03:41] <Radica1Faith> i'm unable to put my wireless card ino entmonitor mode it keeps saying, invalid argum
[03:41] <Flannel> zcat[1] : he has no 'net
[03:41] <zcat[1] > ahh, ok..
[03:41] <B|00d|u5T> ok it says Now add the Beryl Project's repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:41] <Flannel> utilisateur: I think the alternate has all those packages too.  Let me check for you.
[03:41] <utilisateur> zcat : t' havent internet
[03:41] <B|00d|u5T> where do i get the repository
[03:41] <B|00d|u5T> ?
[03:41] <B|00d|u5T> i have synaptic package manager
[03:42] <B|00d|u5T> open
[03:42] <zcat[1] > you want a webserver on a machine with no net connection..? hmm...
[03:42] <Flannel> utilisateur: right.  Download and burn the alternate CD.
[03:42] <Ktron> There any common graphical frontends to configure Xorg on ubuntu?
[03:42] <Radica1Faith> !monitor mode
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor mode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Flannel> utilisateur: Then use apt-cdrom to add the alternate CD to your repositories, and apache et al are in it.
[03:42] <asoldier> Is there a minimum requirements worksheet I can look at
[03:43] <Radica1Faith> Can someone help with my monitor mode problem?
[03:43] <arrenlex> Ktron: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:43] <shockwave1> !adobe flash
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Flannel> !flash | shockwave1
[03:43] <ubotu> shockwave1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:43] <utilisateur> Flannel , zcat, arrenlex: thx for ur help .got to go
[03:44] <asoldier> !ubuntu minimum requirements
[03:44] <asoldier> !minimum requirements
[03:44] <Flannel> sigh.  arrenlex, the alternate CD is what should've been recommended from the beginning.  Wouldve saved a good bit of hassle
[03:44] <asoldier> Does anyone know of a recommended system configuration? AKA Minimum requirements
[03:44] <|omegabeta|> Question : What is the fastest framebuffer movie lib?   fbdev? directfb? what are the options?
[03:45] <matju> zcat[1] : cdrecord -verbose had to be used
[03:45] <matju> zcat[1] : Blocks remaining: -21513; RBlocks remaining: -10732
[03:45] <arrenlex> Flannel: Well he didn't exactly say he was compiling apache... he started out with a generic "C Compiler can't create executables".
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: oddly enough, i was just messing around, the FLV's play fine on VLC... none of my other players though(unless its Mplayer via terminal), plays the sound, very wierd.
[03:45] <matju> zcat[1] : what does this mean? ->   ATIP start of lead in:  -11849 (97:24/01)
[03:45] <shockwave1> how do i access backports
[03:46] <Flannel> arrenlex: right, I know.  It's... troublesome when we don't get info on the real issue ;)
[03:46] <techie_> arrendel i still get this error E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:46] <Flannel> asoldier: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606#head-e15a51f7ff4cac464dfd54cbed7506ef13814de3
[03:46] <Freeman> why is it that when im using kwifimanager it lets me see the connections but i cant connect to them?
[03:46] <asoldier> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/510?highlight=%28minimum%29%7C%28requirements%29 <<
[03:46] <dRk_sHd0w> hey guys when i am running ubuntu server and my spt-get is broke i tried replacing the sources.list but got the same error
[03:46] <asoldier> I found it thanks
[03:46] <Freeman> it was working before
[03:46] <Freeman> but now it wont
[03:46] <BeepAU> whats the command to determine my chipset?
[03:46] <arrenlex> techie_: And if you run "sudo dpkg --purge virtualbox"?
[03:47] <shockwave1> any help with adobe flash?
[03:47] <rpc> is there an easy way to check what version of a given module am i using?
[03:47] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: "broke"?  What does broke consist of?
[03:47] <rpc> like modinfo or something
[03:47] <Freeman> can anyone help me?
[03:47] <Linuturk> I'm trying to enable direct rendering on my ati card. I've attempted using the open source driver, but no direct rendering
[03:47] <shockwave1> iv'e installed it a few times, but so far firefox can't see it
[03:47] <arrenlex> Linuturk: What card?
[03:47] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, it doesnt work it says the dependencies are missing
[03:47] <Flannel> shockwave1: you don't want to enable the entire backports.  What you want to do is go to packages.ubuntu.com, scroll to your backports (edgy or dapper backports), find flash, download that deb, and manually install that particular one
[03:47] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: what are you installing?
[03:47] <Linuturk> arrenlex: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro (rev 5c)
[03:47] <dtolj> Hi all, I have Edgy CD, how do I upgrade dapper to Edgy from CD.
[03:48] <shockwave1> Flannel: thanks
[03:48] <techie_> arrenlex. I did and now this: dpkg: error processing virtualbox (--purge):
[03:48] <techie_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[03:48] <techie_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[03:48] <techie_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:48] <techie_>  virtualbox
[03:48] <Flannel> dtolj: which Edgy CD do you have?
[03:48] <Zambezi> What should I think about if I have to put printerserver, Irssi, CenterICQ, fileserver and firewall on the same computer? How can I make it strong a secure?
[03:48] <dRk_sHd0w> flannel mysql-server i tried to apt-get update and got the error
[03:48] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, I logged onto ubuntu today just now and my application switchbar is gone.  I can switch channels through a panel thing I found "Window Selector", but that's a pain.  Any idea why my switchbar is gone?
[03:48] <Linuturk> arrenlex: I have direct rendering working on another machine at work, running dapper, but I don't remember how I got it working
[03:48] <dtolj> Flannel: 6.10
[03:48] <Flannel> dtolj: right, that's Edgy.  Desktop? or Alternate?
[03:48] <Linuturk> arrenlex: I'm running a dapper to edgy upgrade at home
[03:48] <techie_> arrenlex is there a different way of removing this?
[03:48] <dtolj> Flannel: Desktop
[03:48] <arrenlex> techie_: Looks like you're going to have to reinstall and then remove it.
[03:49] <Flannel> dtolj: you can't upgrade with the Desktop CD, just install.  You'll need the alternate CD, or just upgrade from the interblags.
[03:49] <techie_> arrenlex, I tried to reinstall and it will not do it> It never really installed
[03:49] <arrenlex> Linuturk: I'm not familiar with that card. Is it really old?
[03:49] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: and which packages have unmet dependencies?
[03:49] <Linuturk> not terribly old I don't think
[03:49] <techie_> arrenlex. then what is the best way to re-install I just downloaded the package from virtualbox.org
[03:49] <Linuturk> it has a tv tuner and such arrenlex
[03:50] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, any of them including apt-get update :(
[03:50] <techie_> and then double clicked on it
[03:50] <arrenlex> techie_: Do you still have that package?
[03:50] <duckdown> Hi all.. Is anyone familiar with running X programs on a remote box through ssh? (ssh -X outside.machine.com) I am able to run individual applications like 'firefox' and 'konqueror' and what not, but I can't seem to figure out how to get into my own Window Manager (like GNOME).. I'd rather open a whole desktop rather than running individual X programs by hand every time
[03:50] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Okay. Do you want to try fglrx for it?
[03:50] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: That last sentence doesn't make any sense, honestly.  So, what you're saying is any package you try and install has unmet dependencies?  Arlight.  Pastebin your sources.list
[03:50] <bradp>  i use hidd --search to get bluetooth mouse and keyboard ... but it only lasts approx 30 min ... ive seen info out there ... just short on time ... any thoughts
[03:50] <soyke> is there an easy way to install lilo?
[03:50] <BeepAU> whats the command to determine my chipset?
[03:51] <Linuturk> arrenlex: since the ati driver isn't working, I guess I don
[03:51] <Linuturk> arrenlex: since the ati driver isn't working, I guess I don't have a choice*
[03:51] <xelados> duckdown: Have you tried sending "startx" or "gdm" or "kdm", etc?
[03:51] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, whats the pastebin url
[03:51] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Wait, what driver were you trying, exactly?
[03:51] <Flannel> !paste | dRk_sHd0w
[03:51] <ubotu> dRk_sHd0w: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <gyaresu> BeepAU: 'lspci' and it'll be in that list.
[03:51] <techie_> arrenlex I put it on the trash.... how do i retrieve it.
[03:51] <Linuturk> arrenlex: the open source driver
[03:51] <Linuturk> arrenlex: "ati"
[03:51] <techie_> arrenlex and how do i install .... by double clicking on it
[03:51] <shockwave1> can someone give me the code to uninstall adobe flash before i try to reinstall it
[03:52] <duckdown> xelados, yeah, i tried startx and it started X on the actual machine and displayed it to the remote box's monitor, never opened a desktop for me
[03:52] <BeepAU> gyaresu - which one is my chipset?
[03:52] <Linuturk> arrenlex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:52] <arrenlex> Linuturk: There's your problem. That driver doesn't provide any 3D acceleration at all.
[03:52] <Linuturk> that one
[03:52] <arrenlex> Linuturk: You want to try the "radeon" driver instead.
[03:52] <B|00d|u5T> alright
[03:52] <techie_> arrenlex the package in in the trash but I can see it there
[03:52] <gyaresu> BeepAU: pastebin the output and I'll tell you.
[03:52] <Linuturk> arrenlex: I followed the link I just gave you
[03:52] <B|00d|u5T> i have to update my repositories from command
[03:52] <B|00d|u5T> i dont know how
[03:52] <Linuturk> arrenlex: the "radeon" driver
[03:52] <Flannel> shockwave1: you don't want to unisntall.  That new package is treated as an updated version of the old one.  And you do need the rest of the packages (the plugins package, etc) to run that new one
[03:52] <techie_> arrenlex, tell me how to retrieve and then how to install it?
[03:52] <tjl30> is there any other desktop environments besides kde and gnome ?
[03:52] <Radica1Faith> does anyone know where i can get help for my wireless monitor mode problem?
[03:52] <rbil> duckdown: look at System ... Preferences ... Remote Desktop
[03:52] <Flannel> tjl30: there's... dozens, if not hundreds.
[03:53] <tjl30> for ubuntu?
[03:53] <Linuturk> arrenlex: that wiki page is what I followed. The driver installed, but no direct rendering
[03:53] <xelados> duckdown: You should try running one of the DMs, then. If "startx" starts just X, then your gdm or kdm, etc settings are in an xinitrc file
[03:53] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Are you on that machine right now? Try changing "ati" to "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:53] <xelados> or something similar.
[03:53] <Flannel> tjl30: Ubuntu is just linux.  But, 'official' ubuntu projects, you can also try Xubuntu, which uses XFCE
[03:53] <killown> exist monitor wireless?
[03:53] <Linuturk> arrenlex: ok, I'll try that
[03:53] <BUMBACL0T> what's the best filesystem for jump drives?
[03:53] <techie_> arrendlex should I redownload and re-install
[03:53] <Radica1Faith> I have a wireless card, and its up and running
[03:53] <gyaresu> Radica1Faith: Could you be more specific please?
[03:53] <K3nto> !gnutella
[03:53] <xelados> BUMBACL0T: usbfs?
[03:53] <Flannel> BUMBACL0T: probably fat32
[03:53] <shockwave1> Flannel: I have dl and installled the gz file but the browser doesn't see it. so I should already have adobe 9 installed, but when i hit about:plugins it's not there
[03:53] <arrenlex> techie_: Just drag it out of your trsah.
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <arrenlex> trash
[03:54] <Radica1Faith> but whenever i try to set it to monitor mode it says invalid argument
[03:54] <colk> I am wondering why a Intel 3945 wireless card would freeze the install process of ubuntu
[03:54] <BeepAU> gyaresu - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8875/ thanks
[03:54] <gyaresu> Radica1Faith: Do you know if it's supported by that chip?
[03:54] <Flannel> shockwave1: No.  You don't want the .gz, you want to download the deb file.  ARe you on edgy? or dapper?  and i386?
[03:54] <shockwave1> edgy i386
[03:54] <xelados> Can anyone help me install a mouse cursor theme I got from gnome-look.org?
[03:54] <Radica1Faith> gyaresu: I'm not sure
[03:54] <Linuturk> arrenlex: be right back, restarting X
[03:54] <techie_> arrendlex how to open debmanager, archive manager or other?
[03:54] <xelados> It didn't come with instructions
[03:54] <voraistos> Hey guys. i try to access a LiveCD ubuntu session (with ssh, ssh server and clients were installed) but for some reason it wont work, any idea ?
[03:55] <Flannel> shockwave1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflashplugin-nonfree%2Fflashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1_i386.deb&md5sum=0faed1cd5a2e09018c4fd49063c4b7c1&arch=i386&type=main  pick a mirror
[03:55] <Radica1Faith> gyaresu: i'm using it right now for my internet, but i want to be able to capture packets
[03:55] <BUMBACL0T> Flannel, why fast32?
[03:55] <techie_> arrendlex the package is now in desktop... just double click it?
[03:55] <B|00d|u5T> can somebody please help me with this i have im at the site tellin me how to do it but im havin trouble
[03:55] <B|00d|u5T> its with repositories
[03:55] <B|00d|u5T> and doing it from a command prompt
[03:55] <gyaresu> BeepAU: Notice how that screams mcp51 :)
[03:55] <arrenlex> techie_: No.
[03:55] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8876
[03:55] <Flannel> BUMBACL0T: FAT32... because if youre using a thumbdrive, you want it to be readable everywhere
[03:55] <gyaresu> Radica1Faith: Some cards can't be set to do that.
[03:56] <dRk_sHd0w> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8876/
[03:56] <techie_> arrenlex that is what I did before, so that was all the problem.
[03:56] <xelados> voraistos: If my understanding of SSH is right, then you wouldn't be able to access a remote computer's RAM all that well. The LiveCD is pure RAM.
[03:56] <arrenlex> techie_: Open your desktop in terminal. Then run sudo dpkg -i <package.deb> from the terminal, where <package.deb> is the name of your package.
[03:56] <|omegabeta|> Question : What is the fastest framebuffer movie lib?   fbdev? directfb? what are the options?
[03:56] <arrenlex> techie_: That was not the problem. It's a perfectly fine way of installing. I just want to see the output.
[03:56] <Radica1Faith> so even though it can scan and connect to wireless networks it can't capture packets?
[03:56] <BeepAU> gyaresu - i'm a total n00b. i had no idea what i was looking for. thankyou.
[03:56] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: hmm.  all looks in order there.  `sudo apt-get update` doesn't fix the issue?  do you get any errrs doing that?
[03:56] <gbertek> Is anyone here running x chat and obsidian?
[03:56] <gyaresu> !prefix | Radica1Faith
[03:56] <ubotu> Radica1Faith: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:56] <voraistos> xelados: it should be possible though as ram is read and write
[03:56] <techie_> arrenlex how do i open my desktop in terminal??? please explain
[03:56] <gyaresu> Radica1Faith: Yes.
[03:57] <arrenlex> techie_: Open terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop"
[03:57] <Radica1Faith> gyaresu: thats a shame, so its possible that i can't get air crack to work with it?
[03:57] <Radica1Faith> gyaresu: no matter what
[03:57] <Radica1Faith> !prefix
[03:57] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:57] <shockwave1> flannel. i am getting: only one package installer can run at a time, but have nothing open. when i ran it the first time i got an error so is it maybe still trying to load?
[03:58] <techie_> arrenlex did you see it?
[03:58] <arrenlex> techie_: Did I see what?
[03:58] <gyaresu> Radica1Faith: Yes. I've an intel chipset in this laptop but i bought a netgear wg511(or something like that) for capturing packets.
[03:58] <Flannel> shockwave1: Do you have update-manager running?  or an apt-get running somewhere?
[03:58] <pyrohotdog> Where would I begin configuring a TV plugged in via s-video? (nvidia card)
[03:58] <bruenig> !tvout | pyrohotdog
[03:58] <ubotu> pyrohotdog: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[03:58] <shockwave1> no no where
[03:59] <Radica1Faith> gyaresu: thankyou very much
[03:59] <shockwave1> i have this and the package installer open
[03:59] <gbertek> Is anyone here running a linux fserve?
[03:59] <shockwave1> flannel: atleast that I can see
I did , what do you see
[03:59] <Flannel> shockwave1: Did you have to give your password to run it?  Open up a terminal, navigate, and `sudo dpkg -i [packagename] `
[03:59] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, I get an error when i apt-get update heres the error i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8879
[03:59] <arrenlex> techie_: What?
[03:59] <techie_> arrenlex here is what I see now: ralph@ralph-desktop:~/Desktop$
[04:00] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: you need to use sudo.  `sudo apt-get update`
[04:00] <arrenlex> techie_: Type:  ls *virtual*
[04:00] <arrenlex> techie_: What's the output?
[04:00] <AzMoo> Does anybody know how I can install the pdfLib stuff for php5?
[04:00] <shockwave1> flanne: thanks ill try that
no output just what I type on the previous lines
[04:00] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, I got the same error
[04:01] <bruenig> dRk_sHd0w, perhaps de is failing try sudo sed 's/de./us./g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get update
[04:01] <arrenlex> techie_: Did you drag the virtualbox package out of the trash?
[04:01] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: Looks like you're having network problems.  Change your mirror.
[04:01] <K3nto> !rpm
[04:01] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:01] <techie_> arrenlex. yes i did and put in desktop
[04:01] <arrenlex> techie_: What does "ls *.deb | wc -l" say?
[04:01] <bruenig> dRk_sHd0w, don't put that " in there
[04:01] <K3nto> can you convert rpm to deb?
[04:01] <techie_> arrenlex all i have is the installation package in desktop
[04:02] <arrenlex> !alien | K3nto
[04:02] <dRk_sHd0w> yes
[04:02] <ubotu> K3nto: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:02] <dRk_sHd0w> use alien
[04:02] <techie_> nothing more
[04:02] <arrenlex> techie_: Run my command and tell me what it says.
[04:02] <bruenig> K3nto, better to compile if you can
[04:02] <Flannel> K3nto: help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[04:02] <K3nto> kk
[04:02] <techie_> arrendlex can we do
[04:02] <BUMBACL0T> !lol | Flannel
[04:02] <techie_>  "ls *.deb | wc -l" this command?
[04:02] <Radica1Faith> simple question! Is there a way to paste into my ntfs partition from my linux filesystem? it tells me it is read only, any way to make it not just read only?
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g | Radica1Faith
[04:03] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | Radica1Faith
[04:03] <ubotu> Radica1Faith: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:03] <arrenlex> techie_: Yes.
[04:03] <techie_> arrenlex can we do this in a private room I am very confuse
[04:03] <Linuturk> arrenlex: that didn't work
[04:03] <Radica1Faith> thankyou
[04:03] <techie_> arrenlex it says command not found
[04:03] <arrenlex> techie_: Fine. Join #arrenlex
[04:03] <thynctank> What's up folks.
[04:03] <bruenig> !howdy | thynctank
[04:03] <ubotu> thynctank: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:03] <Linuturk> arrenlex: the switch from "ati" to "radeon" didn't work
[04:03] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Did X start at all?
[04:04] <Linuturk> no
[04:04] <thynctank> ubuntu noob here, trying to figure out exactly how apache2 (version installed by synaptic, so 2.0 something) configs
[04:04] <thynctank> I've been working with 1.x forever
[04:04] <|omegabeta|> using mplayer in the frambeuffer, I have so far figured out the following mplayer -vo svga -ao alsa *moviename*  but its rather sluggish, and I am on a high end pc.. any suggestions?
[04:04] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Do you remember the error message?
[04:04] <Linuturk> arrenlex: the error returned was no screens found
[04:04] <thynctank> dunno where zackly is the best place for specific help
[04:04] <arrenlex> Linuturk: I thought so... could you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just for my curiosity?
[04:04] <Linuturk> arrenlex: sure, give me a second
[04:04] <yell0w> guys, how come gmake is not in the repository ?
[04:04] <arrenlex> Linuturk: Other than that, looks like you'll have to use fglrx, yeah. Here's a good guide:
[04:04] <arrenlex> !ati | Linuturk
[04:05] <ubotu> Linuturk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <bruenig> yell0w, what is gmake
[04:05] <gleamnite> Anyone here using a Wireless NIC with a Marvell Chipset?
[04:05] <colk> yell0w, gmake = the make for linux anyway
[04:05] <voidmage> really stupid question but how do i burn an iso in windows?
[04:05] <gleamnite> Nero
[04:05] <yell0w> bruenig, gnu make i think
[04:05] <bruenig> voidmage, http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
[04:05] <thynctank> or a freeare burner
[04:05] <yell0w> colk, what do you mean ?
[04:05] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know how to make it so when I click on a launcher (gksu <program>) I don't have to enter my password?
[04:05] <thynctank> freeware even
[04:05] <bruenig> yell0w, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:05] <colk> yell0w, the make in ubuntu is gmake
[04:05] <yell0w> colk,  can i use make where gmake is
[04:06] <colk> yes
[04:06] <yell0w> uhm absolutely sure ?
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:06] <Flannel> thynctank: Well, apache2.conf holds generic config stuff (serverwide), /sites-available/ has sites (virtual hosts), mods-available has the modules, the -enabled counterparts hold the enabled versions (a symlink, a2enmod or a2ensite to link easily)
[04:06] <colk> just get build-essential using the command that bruenig  said to install it
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> i love it when people ask for help, then question the answer
[04:06] <bruenig> Lord_Maynoth, you have to add an exception in the sudoers file which I have never been able for some bizarre reason been able to successfully do
[04:06] <Linuturk> arrenlex: http://pastebin.ca/383099
[04:06] <Linuturk> arrenlex: http://pastebin.ca/383099
[04:06] <bruenig> s/been able//
[04:06] <yell0w> colk, i already did that long ago, right now i'm trying to build something that specifically says gmake in the instruction. can i still use make ?
[04:06] <Linuturk> whoops
[04:06] <gleamnite> Why is that IndyGunFreak?
[04:06] <colk> yes
[04:07] <yell0w> colk, is that yes for me ? lol
[04:07] <colk> yes yell0w
[04:07] <Flannel> thynctank: any site specific stuff should be put in the appropriate virtual host file, the modules have two files each, a .conf and a .load, the conf holds config stuff for the module, the .load actually loads the modules themselves
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: it makes me laugh.. i'm not saying questioning why they should do it, i'm saying, questioning if it will work before even trying it.
[04:07] <thynctank> @Flannel: Thanks, I'd figured the root dir but want to remap it so it's in a folder I have native permissions like ~
[04:07] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, can you help me then? ;)
[04:07] <colk> instructions are probly made if you had freebsd
[04:07] <thynctank> also I'm not getting -k restart to work
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: maybe you misunderstood.
[04:07] <colk> in freebsd that will make a diffrence
[04:07] <yell0w> colk, ok, i'll try that, if you see me go *blip* you know what happen
[04:07] <Flannel> thynctank: Actually, usermod is already enabled.  Just make a public_html folder in your homedir, and you'll be able to get there with /~username/ on your server
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: i don't have a problem helping people
[04:07] <Linuturk> arrenlex: see anything interesting in there ?
[04:07] <yell0w> colk, =P
[04:07] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, no, I understood. I was just playing. I need some help and I can't seem to get anyone's attention.
[04:08] <Flannel> thynctank: er, userdirs module
[04:08] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: if i can help, i gladly will.
[04:08] <Lord_Maynoth> bruenig, thanks I will just leave it as is.. ^_^
[04:08] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: whats the malfunction?
[04:08] <shockwave1> flannel: even after i restarted I am still getting the same only one installer can run. could it be cause i already installed the gz file from adobe?
[04:08] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, since I couldn't find my windows install disks, but now I can't get the laptop's wireless NIC to work.
[04:08] <leafw> any clues on how to put the computer to sleep from the command line?
[04:08] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, I have this file called sources.list.lock and it has a number on it could that have something to do with it?
[04:08] <arrenlex> Linuturk: No, it's fine. If that doesn't work for you, going to have to try fglrx.
[04:08] <Flannel> thynctank: otherwise, you'll be editing things in sites-available, changing the DocumentRoot and stuff.
[04:08] <shockwave1> i don't know how to navigate to the package in terminal
[04:09] <thynctank> right
[04:09] <leafw> which command is the sleep button calling?
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: have you looked at the wireless wiki?.. i know VERY little about getting wireless up and running, sorry.
[04:09] <colk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | gleamnite
[04:09] <ubotu> gleamnite: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:09] <yell0w> colk, it's building now so it looks like it's good. Thanks! :P
[04:09] <colk> yw
[04:09] <thynctank> I was intending to change DocumentRoot but as I say apache won't restart so it won't reload the conf file
[04:09] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, that's okay. I'll have a look =)
[04:09] <bruenig> hmmm, no thanks here
[04:09] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: ok...
[04:09] <Flannel> thynctank: What error do you get when trying to restart?
[04:09] <thynctank> let me rerun
[04:10] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, I question your solution though. I just don't think it will work... haha ;)
[04:10] <bruenig> leafw, it is using gdm
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: lol,
[04:10] <thynctank> "no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[04:10] <Flannel> thynctank: what command are you using to restart, at that?
[04:10] <thynctank> the -k option
[04:10] <Flannel> thynctank: -k option for what?
[04:10] <leafw> bruenig:  gdm ? the gnome display manager ?
[04:10] <bruenig> leafw, yep
[04:10] <Flannel> thynctank: `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart` restarts apache
[04:10] <leafw> bruenig: hum I am surprised.
[04:10] <thynctank> should I run native apachectl? I've been running apache2 since that's visible from everywhere
[04:10] <thynctank> hmm
[04:10] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: What solution is being questioned? xD
[04:11] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, I ahv a file called sources.list.lock with a number on it could that be the problem it's in the same dir as sources.list?
[04:11] <thynctank> when I try running straight apache2 restart it gives me the options list like I left something out
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: it was something you told someone how to do above, then they made a comment like "are you sure"....
[04:11] <theilliniguy> im looking for a keystroke macro ap to use for repeat keystrokes?
[04:11] <leafw> bruenig: but one can't call sudo /etc/init.d/gdm suspend , or can I ?
[04:11] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Oh, it was to ME? xD *reads*
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> i think it was you, maybe not.
[04:12] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: ARe you editing your sources.list soemwhere?  Maybe the software properties dialog or whatnot?
[04:12] <bruenig> leafw, don't know exactly what it does, just know that it uses gdm which is why shutting down or restarting doesn't require a password
[04:12] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: its not just computers that it cracks me up, occasionally people at work will ask me a question, etc, and they'll say, "thts not right is it"... well if they kenw so freakin much, why did they ask?
[04:12] <Ktron> Here's a question for the channel... I've got X up and running on ubuntu, but if I logout/restart/shutdown the computer, the monitors go black and it seems to hang
[04:12] <Ktron> Any suggestions?
[04:12] <leafw> bruenig: oh I see. That's only for session purposes. What I wondered is the actual acpi or apm command called by whatever is putting the laptop to sleep
[04:12] <bruenig> yeah don't know
[04:12] <thynctank> I have no init.d dir under etc either... hmm... all syaptic's doing, all I've manually installed is rails and gems
[04:12] <Ktron> Also, if I try to switch to a different console it seems to 'hang' too
[04:13] <Flannel> thynctank: oh, are you on edgy?
[04:13] <thynctank> yes
[04:13] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, it was when i made the list
[04:14] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: did you exit out of it?
[04:14] <Flannel> thynctank: right.  Edgy uses upstart.  I... am unsure how to restart apache with upstart.
[04:14] <thynctank> never heard of upstart
[04:14] <C41R0> hi.., anyone here uses third party program to stable the linux download speed ?
[04:14] <Flannel> !upstart | thynctank
[04:14] <ubotu> thynctank: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:14] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, yes
[04:14] <Ktron> Ubuntu seems to hang when I try to shutdown/restart X, any suggestions?
[04:14] <morg> I have a small problem I can't get sound to come from my sound card, I can get it from the built in on my motherboard, and it won't let me change the default sound card
[04:14] <thynctank> cool bot
[04:15] <marx2k> isnt apache in /etc/init.d?
[04:15] <shockwave1> flannel: I dl adobe flash to the desktop. How do i install it there through terminal
[04:15] <thynctank> very impressed with how well ubuntu functions too man, I haven't touched linux in forever
[04:15] <kruncher> hey, is there and alternative/remake of that program called ubuntu center/icenterx/hive? It isnt maintained anymore so I dont really want to use that specifically, but i do want an all in one package that works like it.
[04:15] <thynctank> all the drivers were right straight out of the box
[04:15] <Flannel> shockwave1: sudo dpkg -i [package] 
[04:15] <maxxism> good evening folks.   Quick NFS question.  is there a place where ubuntu stores its keys for client machines?  I formatted a client ubuntu box.  and the ubuntu server is denying access now.  the log says "mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.69 for /videoz (/videoz)"  The IP hasnt changed so I know my exports file is ok.  I assume its an old hash stopping verification??????
[04:16] <asoldier> for some reason I still can't get mp3s to play
[04:16] <shockwave1> flanne: do i need to be in the desktop directory?
[04:16] <Flannel> marx2k: aparently not in edgy (with upstart)
[04:16] <Flannel> shockwave1: you need to be in the directory of the deb file
[04:16] <DemisM> Is there anyway I can remove the annoying boot-up ubuntu logo with the progress bar?? is that part of menu.lst?
[04:16] <asoldier> You can't remove it, but you can change it.
[04:17] <rbil> Isn't this the way to start apache?  sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[04:17] <arrenlex> DemisM: Yep. Go to menu.lst and remove "splash" from the #kopt= line.
[04:17] <asoldier> No matter what you do, you're going to have a bootup screen for the drivers to load
[04:17] <DemisM> so i can't see kernel parameters and what is loading?
[04:17] <marx2k> I *would* actually like to see my bootup show what its doing and not the Ubuntu screeb
[04:17] <arrenlex> DemisM: Then run sudo update-grub
[04:17] <shockwave1> flannel: how do i get there. i can get to the desktop
[04:17] <DemisM> k thx :)
[04:17] <|omegabeta|> using mplayer in the frambeuffer, I have so far figured out the following mplayer -vo svga -ao alsa *moviename*  but its rather sluggish, and I am on a high end pc.. any suggestions?
[04:17] <marx2k> then again, I reboot my box so infrequently, it really doesnt matter
[04:17] <thynctank> will look into things. Thanks much Flannel, rbil
[04:17] <thynctank> TTFN
[04:17] <Flannel> DemisM: yeah, remove 'splash' and add 'nosplash'
[04:17] <rocca> My ADSL connection needs a login and password (pppoe), but sometimes I move to other places where I use ADSL cable connection without login and password, and sometimes to other places where I use wifi, so my question is : is there a tool that can manage those 3 ways to get connected ?
[04:17] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Speaking of support nightmares... here is a screenshot of the install I asked him to take. http://konstant.ls.la/uploads/Screenshot.png
[04:18] <asoldier> Windows dosn't show anything, but I prefer Ubuntu's way of actually showing you what the heck is going on instead of going "why is this taking so #$#%ing long to load?"
[04:18] <NZheretic> Any recomendations for a cheap internal 56k soft modem that *works* out of the box with Ubuntu.
[04:18] <Ktron> Anyone know why ubuntu might appear to hang every time I try to logout/switch TTYs/restart/ etc?
[04:18] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: -___-
[04:18] <Flannel> shockwave1: cd Desktop
[04:18] <Flannel> shockwave1: linux is case sensitive
[04:18] <NZheretic> What 56k  chipset works.
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: lol
[04:18] <voidmage> say i have a list of packages separated by newlines. Would "cat file |xargs sudo apt-get install" work to install them all?
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: that might possibly be the funniest thing i've ever seen
[04:19] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: I don't feel like laughing. ;__;
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: well, if it helps any, it has me in hysterics..lmao
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> dude i'll laugh about that all night.
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> NZheretic: get a serial.  (I have a Conexant, but not ootb)
[04:20] <gleamnite> What's the terminal command to open a program on linux?
[04:20] <BeepAU> i'm trying to follow this - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:20] <theilliniguy>  help - im looking for a keystroke macro ap to use for repeat keystrokes?
[04:20] <maxxism> good evening folks.   Quick NFS question.  is there a place where ubuntu stores its keys for client machines?  I formatted a client ubuntu box.  and the ubuntu server is denying access now.  the server log says "mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.69 for /blah (/blah)"  The IP hasnt changed so I know my exports file is ok.  I assume its an old hash stopping verification??????
[04:20] <Flannel> gleamnite: the program name (or something like it, depending on the program)
[04:20] <kelsin> gleamnite: what do you mean by open a program? If the program is called "synaptic" you just type "synaptic" in the term
[04:20] <ghetek> hey guys, i have remote hosting for my website and i use sshfs to mount it to a folder in my media directory. as of now every time that my computer starts up i need to re-enter in the sshfs mount command and put in the directory. I would liket o put it in the auto start applications but then i still need to put in the password. can someone please walk me through how to get ssh-keygen working so that i no longer need a password?
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: i'm just amazed that the date version # and titel of the program didn't tell you everything you needed to know..lol
[04:20] <BeepAU> but don't know what to put in $sudo modprobe snd- could someone help me?
[04:20] <NZheretic> tonyyarusso : I'm reparing an older couples PC. New External modem are too expensive.
[04:20] <DemisM> how do i make an xpm.gz file?
[04:20] <gleamnite> Flannel, so, simply the name and nothing else? I'll give it a shot.
[04:21] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Where do these people come from? Sweet jesus...
[04:21] <BUMBACL0T> them sneakers on your feet cost $100 a pop, my peoples making fifty cents a day in sweathops; to make them kicks, so you can look good; you think we open restaurants coz we cook good?; hell no, we aint got no choice, i gotta speak up without me my people have no voice!
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: i know man, it kills me..lol
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> NZheretic: $5-10?
[04:21] <Flannel> gleamnite: Yeah, well, if the full name is the command (which it usually is), also... you can try typing a few letters, then hit tab.  Linux has tab complete too
[04:21] <NZheretic> tonyyarusso : I just got a second hand one that smoked itself due to the incorrect PS supplied.
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: you should save that and post it on how not to post a screenshot posing a problem..lol
[04:21] <NZheretic> tonyyarusso : $64new.
[04:21] <shockwave1> flannel: from the desktop i ran, sudo dpkg -i [flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1_i386.deb]  but got an error saying no such file or directory
[04:21] <gleamnite> Flannel, thank you, friend.
[04:21] <Allen3373> what is the makefile (stupid question I'm sure)
[04:22] <duckdown> I have no 'apt-file' command.
[04:22] <duckdown> How do I search for a file?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> NZheretic: don't buy new.  I have an old serial for the old one's I'm redoing myself.
[04:22] <arrenlex> duckdown: What are you trying to do?
[04:22] <BUMBACL0T> apt-cache search <hang low>
[04:22] <duckdown> arrenlex, install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[04:22] <duckdown> something im trying to install wont work without it
[04:22] <duckdown> and i cant find it
[04:22] <yell0w> hey guys, when i do export VAR=etc where is that info stored ?
[04:22] <Flannel> shockwave1: no brackets
[04:22] <morg> Can somebody help me convince this that my default card is my audigy and not my motherboard built in? It keeps changing the default back.
[04:23] <asoldier> is there a way to convert windows applications to linux/ubuntu compatible applications?
[04:23] <Allen3373> what si the makefile? and how do I use it?
[04:23] <Meheren> what's the cp parameter to make a symlink?
[04:23] <arrenlex> duckdown: What do you need apt-file for?
[04:23] <shockwave1> flannel: ok thanks
[04:23] <NZheretic> tonyyarusso : So did I, but now ( after around 30 computers supplied ) I have run out.
[04:23] <Meheren> 	ive forgotten it
[04:23] <thoreauputic> duckdown: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file-update && apt-file search <whatever>
[04:23] <marx2k> morg: disable your internal sound in BIOS
[04:23] <Ktron> So If I try to logout/restart/shutdown X or even switch to a different TTY, my screen(s) go black and I can't do anything. Any suggestions for what is wrong?
[04:23] <duckdown> arrenlex, to see what package has these files
[04:23] <yell0w> Meheren, ln -s
[04:23] <duckdown> thoreauputic, ill try that thanks
[04:23] <marx2k> !wine | asoldier
[04:23] <ubotu> asoldier: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:23] <Meheren> yell0w, oh! hehe thanks..
[04:23] <voidmage> Ktron: tried booting without usplash?
[04:23] <arrenlex> duckdown: Oh. You could install apt-file or use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:23] <asoldier> saW33t
[04:23] <Ktron> voidmage: no, I haven't
[04:23] <yell0w> hey guys, when i do export VAR=etc where is that info stored ?
[04:24] <Ktron> voidmage: I'll try to find where to turn that outt
[04:24] <Ktron> voidmage: *off
[04:24] <Allen3373> what is make file???
[04:24] <morg> marx2k: it's not my internal sound it's the integrated sound card that's built into my motherboard. Everytime I try to change the default to my audigy it just changes it back.
[04:24] <voidmage> ktron: at boot time you can hit e over your boot, e over the first thing, remove "ro quiet splash", then hit b
[04:24] <marx2k> morg: yeah just use BIOS to turn off the integrated sound
[04:24] <thoreauputic> ALL4N: a make file is used for compiling and is usually created in the source directory
[04:24] <voidmage> ktron: if that works, you can remove it permanently by deleting "ro quiet splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:25] <voidmage> ktron: adding to that, i mean from the kernel you're bootin to
[04:25] <thoreauputic> bah - s/ALL4N / Allen3373
[04:25] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: so, how do I use it?
[04:25] <rbil> morg: you could try blacklisting the kernel driver for the onboard sound. that might work
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: what are you trying to do ?
[04:25] <NZheretic> External Modems are selling for $64 NZ ( $44 US ), Old ones are getting rare, can anyone recomend a cheaper current internal soft modem chipset that work in Ubuntu/ Linux in general?
[04:25] <maxxism> NFS question.  is there a place where ubuntu stores its keys for client machines?  I formatted a client ubuntu box.  and the ubuntu server is denying access now.  the server log says "mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.69 for /blah (/blah)"  The IP hasnt changed so I know my exports file is ok.  My hosts file still lists the proper computer name and ip for the client.  I assume its an old hash stopping verification??????
[04:25] <gyaresu> Allen3373: hey.
[04:25] <_cerberus_> does anyone know why a vanilla kernel (2.6.19.7) would fail to boot with the last message being "usbcore: register new interfaces usbhid" and how I could fix it? This kernel has never worked, I only just compiled it
[04:25] <Flannel> !hardware | NZheretic
[04:25] <ubotu> NZheretic: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:25] <marx2k> why are external modems so expensive?? ITs not like anyone uses them
[04:26] <shockwave1> flannel: it says it installed, but i still can't see it in about:plugins. Is that normal?
[04:26] <NZheretic> ubotu : thanks
[04:26] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:26] <gleamnite> - and a hot bot at that.
[04:26] <_cerberus_> NZheretic, the dse internal modem works well, I'm using it right now, you have to download and compile the driver available from intel but it's no problem
[04:26] <asoldier> ubotu : love me
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about love me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Ktron> voidmage: you think that will help when I try to logout after its already started?
[04:26] <colk> I have a dell Inspiron E1505 that wont load wireless
[04:26] <asoldier> lmfao
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> !love | asoldier
[04:26] <ubotu> asoldier: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> hat up all
[04:27] <colk> when it tries the wifi light will blink but never go solid
[04:27] <marx2k> colk: integrated wireless laptop?
[04:27] <Ktron> voidmage: Because it boots with the splash and everything correctly initially, and I log in
[04:27] <asoldier> hahaha
[04:27] <asoldier> that's sw33t
[04:27] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: same thing for the last 6 hours. trying to get my wrieless to work. Now I'm trying to use native drivers, and I found instructions, but it just says 'use makefile' to set osme stuff
[04:27] <Ktron> voidmage: it's only when I try to logout after that that shit hits the fan
[04:27] <colk> its a Intel Pro Wireless 3945
[04:27] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, when did that screwball factoid get added?
[04:27] <Allen3373> gyaresu: hey man!
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> im adding repositories to get the packages for beryl but the repositories they gave me arn't workin compeltely
[04:27] <colk> and its supported according to the wiki
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: A long time ago.
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> its only lettin me get some of the files
[04:27] <gyaresu> How's the new install going.
[04:27] <NZheretic> _cerberus_ : cool, Thats what I need to know.
[04:27] <Flannel> shockwave1: do you have the 'flashplugin-nonfree' package installed?
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> its failn on alot of em
[04:28] <Allen3373> gyaresu: still working on my usb wireless adapter lol
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: if you are compiling you need to install build-essential, and for drivers linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:28] <B|00d|u5T> u guys got any good repositoriy sites that i can add that will get all the files for beryl down??
[04:28] <marx2k> Allen3373, , compiling is not for noobs, but usually if you're in the source directory the command sequence is "./configure", "make", "sudo install"
[04:28] <gleamnite> If I use NdisWrapper, do I need to decompile the driver.exe or something along those lines?
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !wifi | Allen3373
[04:28] <ubotu> Allen3373: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:28] <B|00d|u5T> i finally figured out how to do it but now the repsoitory addys arnt pullin all the beryl info
[04:28] <doctorles> Good evening all. I'm hunting for a good media player for Ubuntu 6.06 that is easy to install; any suggestions?
[04:28] <voidmage> gleamnite: no, you just need to provide the .inf for the network card
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> !players | doctorles
[04:28] <ubotu> doctorles: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:28] <Allen3373> thoreauputic:I've got those
[04:29] <Flannel> B|00d|u5T: Beryl support in #ubuntu-effects, thanks.
[04:29] <voidmage> docorles: I recommend amarok
[04:29] <maxxism> marx2k isnt it "sudo make install" ???
[04:29] <Allen3373> marx2k: I can use any of those commands (and I learn fast lol)
[04:29] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: have you read the wifi docs?
[04:29] <gleamnite> voidmage, Is that within the .exe though?
[04:29] <_cerberus_> doctorles, xmms it's very similar to winamp, mplayer is also very good, comes with lots of codecs
[04:29] <shockwave1> flannel: yes it is
[04:29] <Flannel> shockwave1: and, you've restarted firefox?
[04:29] <shockwave1> yes
[04:29] <marx2k> the two commands should be seperate
[04:29] <marx2k> although yeah i think its make install
[04:29] <marx2k> duh
[04:29] <voidmage> gleamnite: generally it's a text file included with the installer. if you downloaded the installer from the internet you MIGHT have to install the stuff somewhere with wine
[04:30] <voidmage> just to get the inf extracted
[04:30] <marx2k> I use 'checkinstall' :) so its usually just sudo checkinstall
[04:30] <maxxism> marv2k  it is "make"   and then "sudo make install"
[04:30] <Flannel> shockwave1: I have... no idea.  See if : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash gives any insight on troubleshooting
[04:30] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: yeas, and it wasn't helpful. I think I have the suckiest instal of ubuntu ever.
[04:30] <asdfd> ok, g++ -L ../SDL/lib -lSDL -lSDLmain should work yes?
[04:31] <maxxism> NFS question.  is there a place where ubuntu stores its keys for client machines?  I formatted a client ubuntu box.  and the ubuntu server is denying access now.  the server log says "mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.69 for /blah (/blah)"  The IP hasnt changed so I know my exports file is ok.  My hosts file still lists the proper computer name and ip for the client.  I assume its an old hash stopping verification??????
[04:31] <shockwave1> flannel: thanks for your help. it doesn't show up on either of my computer. it's weird
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: I assume that your card (wifi) is known to be supported ?
[04:31] <gleamnite> voidmage, or could I install it in Windows and find the files, then transfer them?
[04:31] <rbil> maxxism, should issue a new cert if the old one is no longer there
[04:32] <voidmage> gleamnite: that works too
[04:32] <Allen3373> horeauputic: yes. But the drivers that I need didn't com with ubuntu. So I need to compile them fire.
[04:32] <doctorles> Thanks to all for the replies/suggestions.  You too, bot!
[04:32] <gleamnite> voidmage, Okay, thanks for your help. I'll have another stab at it when I get home.
[04:32] <maxxism> rbil   but where are they stored?  so I can remove it
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: your original question about makefiles was not well formed. Are the instructions telling you to edit the makefile?
[04:32] <Allen3373> *first
[04:32] <asdfd> does anyone here have much experience with g++
[04:32] <rbil> maxxism, I can't remember offhand, but in your home directory a dot directory
[04:33] <rbil> let me look
[04:33] <Allen3373> thoreuaputic: it says to ' Install the Windows driver
[04:33] <maxxism> hrmmmm
[04:33] <Tarquinius> hello all
[04:33] <doctorles> I had VLC working on Fedora and liked it; found it hard to install on Ubuntu though
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: don't paste :)
[04:33] <doctorles> As I recall, at least
[04:33] <rbil> maxxism: ~/.ssh
[04:33] <gleamnite> Allen3373, which NIC are you trying to install?
[04:33] <marx2k> VLC is in the repositories.. why would you find it hard to install?
[04:34] <kelsin> asdfd: what's your issue (pastebin the errors you're getting)
[04:34] <rbil> maxxism: known_hosts
[04:34] <Tarquinius> any tips on accessing a windows partition?
[04:34] <doctorles> Not hard to get, hard to get working; for me, at least
[04:34] <Allen3373> Thoreauputic: it says to " Install the Windows driver
[04:34] <maxxism> its not listed.
[04:34] <doctorles> Hold on, I'll try to get it again
[04:34] <thoreauputic> heh Allen3373 is a slow learner...
[04:34] <doctorles> I'm running 6.06; maybe the newer Ubuntu works better?
[04:34] <marx2k> oh maybe i always installed it through Automatix
[04:34] <rbil> maxxism: what isn't listed the file or the ssh server?
[04:34] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: it says to set something in the makefile
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: you keep getting kicked for flooding
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: so don't do whatever was causing the flood :)
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know what the terminal command to see where a program is installed to is?
[04:35] <maxxism> rbil the server is denying the client.
[04:35] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: I don't know why...
[04:35] <rbil> maxxism: are u looking on the client side?
[04:35] <maxxism> rbil no server side
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: so open the makefile and edit it to what they say to edit
[04:35] <_cerberus_> Allen3373, it's because you keep pasting large pieces ot text
[04:35] <rbil> look at client side
[04:36] <holycow> !e17
[04:36] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:36] <Allen3373> Thoreauputic: so I just would type make and then what it says to do?
[04:36] <marx2k> it would be good if ubotu gave a url for e17
[04:36] <Ltar> how to copy a file tree, everything EXCEPT one specific folder within the tree?
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: as I said, the makefile will be in the source directory - I don't have the howto or whatever it is so I can't read your mind: just follow what it says carefully :)
[04:37] <Ltar> I'm trying to backup a user folder from a windows drive
[04:37] <Ltar> and i don't want to copy the 14 gig music folder within that user directory.
[04:37] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: k, gonna go try
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: if it says to alter the makefile, open the makefile in an editor ( say gedit)
[04:37] <dRk_sHd0w> Flannel, would editing my /ect/hosts file ahve to do with why apt-get isn't working?
[04:38] <UbuntuAnon> Hello
[04:38] <zackglennie_> I'm having some issues with chroot.  Does anyone know why I might, as root (via sudo and after "sudo bash") be denied permission to execute /bin/bash, which has permissions -rwxr-xr-x ??
[04:38] <UbuntuAnon> I converted to Kubuntu from 2K/XP less than two weeks ago and I like it
[04:39] <colk> oh cool
[04:39] <colk> it worked this time
[04:39] <colk> nfi how I got it to work
[04:39] <colk> but it finally stopped blinking and booted
[04:39] <Ltar> the first step is admitting you have a problem.
[04:39] <zackglennie_> I'll try rebooting.
[04:40] <zackglennie_> shouldn't have to, of course, this IS linux..
[04:40] <doctorles> One other question if I may: I can't read my email in FireFox, either in Windows or Ubuntu, unless I switch to "Printable version"  anyone else run into this?
[04:40] <frew> are there any problems running an nvidia 7600 go with ubuntu?
[04:40] <NZheretic> ( Sorry for asking again ) Any recomendations for a current internal 56k soft modems ( or just chipsets ) that *works* with Ubuntu?
[04:40] <UbuntuAnon> doctorles: I think Firefox problems should be taken up with Mozilla
[04:40] <UbuntuAnon> frew: Google :)
[04:40] <doctorles> Yes, you are right, thanks
[04:40] <Chopperman> Anyone want to try to help me with a dual boot problem?
[04:41] <arrenlex> !anyone | Chopperman
[04:41] <ubotu> Chopperman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:41] <frew> i did and i see a few problems, was hoping for an updated answer tho
[04:41] <UbuntuAnon> Chopperman: Ask instead
[04:41] <fyrmedic> anyone have a good link for getting onboard wireless networking running. I can't find the link I used the other day?
[04:41] <Chopperman> ah got it :)
[04:41] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[04:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:41] <Chopperman> A link for full details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377221
[04:41] <UbuntuAnon> frew: Best - Install Ubuntu, Install Beta Drivers for NVidia
[04:41] <pylorns> looking for a DNS walkthrough on how to setup DNS internally
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: any luck?
[04:42] <Chopperman> The upshot is that whe I make a linux.bin file and then use windows boot loader to add it to the boot menu, I get nothing
[04:42] <fyrmedic> thanks
[04:42] <doctorles> This room provides a great service; thanks to all.  Bye for now
[04:42] <gleamnite> IndyGunFreak, I'm at work at the moment so I can't actually try it. I think I have to use the NdisWrapper and pull the driver.exe apart... I'll look at it when I get home.
[04:42] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, it says I need a destination file. where would a driver go?
[04:42] <frew> thanks UbuntuAnon, gonna go install now, im sick of vista
[04:42] <Chopperman> I looked at the .bin in windows notepad and it appears to be nothing but whitespace
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> gleamnite: i think thats what i've saw people talked through several times here though
[04:43] <BUMBACL0T> every bitch in my school got a picture of my dick ~~ on their wall
[04:43] <gyaresu> pylorns: There are some good ubuntu server guides that include a section on setting up a chroot'd bind server howtforge.com
[04:43] <UbuntuAnon> Have fun frew
[04:43] <gyaresu> !ohmy | BUMBACL0T
[04:43] <ubotu> BUMBACL0T: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:43] <mike01> time to see if 2.6.20.1 will boot
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: sorry, I'm not familiar with this - are you using ndiswrapper or something?
[04:43] <pylorns> thanks
[04:43] <gyaresu> !prefix | pylorns
[04:43] <ubotu> pylorns: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[04:43] <gyaresu> pylorns: no problem.
[04:44] <cavediver> Hello. Is asterisk 1.4 availible from some repos ?
[04:44] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: no. I typed 'sudo install (then what they told me. I can't write it becaus eit will flood)' it says I need a destination.
[04:44] <Chopperman> Okay let me ask it this way - would it make a difference how I booted before making the linux.bin file?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: we can't guess what your howto says to do. Just read it carefully and follow it. "sudo install" sounds unlikely as a command anyway
[04:45] <owner__> can someone help me
[04:46] <owner__> my localhost
[04:46] <gyaresu> !ask | owner__
[04:46] <ubotu> owner__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: well, thats' the problem. There's not much to follow carefully. But where would a driver be put?
[04:46] <owner__> i cant test anything at localhost
[04:46] <daaku> hey all, anyone know the syntax to disable font anti aliasing for xterm when using the -fa option (faceName) - its : separated or something, cant remember!
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: link us to the page you are reading, please
[04:47] <gyaresu> owner__: Please be more specific. What are you tying to do?
[04:47] <Allen3373> http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[04:47] <ramza3> hello, dont know if this is a samba question or not; I was trying to mount a samba drive with fstab, it mounts but I changed my permissions to 0777 and now it looks like 700, how can I get back to real 777
[04:47] <Allen3373> I am down at the do it yourself part
[04:47] <arrenlex> Is there a way to open a terminal to the folder you're in in nautilus?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: without a link we have no idea what you are following
[04:47] <Chopperman> Anyone use windows bootloader in place of grub?
[04:47] <Allen3373> http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[04:47] <rbil> arrenlex: yes with a nautilus script
[04:48] <arrenlex> rbil: Any way that works by default?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Chopperman: why would you bother?
[04:48] <rbil> arrenlex: don't know what u mean?
[04:48] <owner__> i made a test.php file and when i try to load http://localhost/test.php it will not load
[04:48] <Allen3373> Thoreauputic: get the link that time?
[04:48] <vafada> owner__: make sure that your webserver is up
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: um... no
[04:49] <gyaresu> owner__: Right. So you have a problem with apache?
[04:49] <Chopperman> Therauputic - 2 reasons 1) I like to use the boot to media options on my laptop, 2) avoiding my wrecking the MBR
[04:49] <arrenlex> rbil: Something that works with a default nautilus. Something that doesn't have to be configured.
[04:49] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: ah I see, sorry
[04:49] <Allen3373> np
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: looking
[04:49] <rbil> arrenlex: there wouldn't be an addon script if it already existed, would there?
[04:49] <Allen3373> down at the do it yourself
[04:49] <dRk_sHd0w> hey guys could messing with your /ect/hosts mess up apt-get
[04:49] <cwill2> how would I copy a bunch of symbolic links (including folders?)
[04:49] <owner__> how can i check if my webserver is up
[04:49] <gyaresu> !prefix | owner__
[04:49] <ubotu> owner__: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[04:50] <Allen3373> Thoreauputic: the one for the Zydas chipset
[04:50] <marshall> how do you condense the directory name at the prompt in bash? instead of having the entire path shown in every prompt that is
[04:50] <arrenlex> rbil: Well that's what I was asking.
[04:50] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having an odd problem with an Edgy-Server system.
[04:50] <gyaresu> owner__: Is it apache. Please try and be verbose in your answers. None of are mind readers.
[04:50] <Crell> My ejabberd is broken (who knows why), so I'm trying to remove it completely and reinstall it.
[04:50] <ant_> arrenlex: you can open nautilus to my computer with "nautilus --no-desktop computer"
[04:50] <vafada> owner__: lots of ways you can do that... telnet, ps, logs, etc
[04:50] <marshall> how do you condense the directory name at the prompt in bash? instead of having the entire path shown in every prompt that is
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: what happens if you just type sudo modprobe zd1211b  ?
[04:51] <DisabledBobcat> I'm trying to install an application via the add/remove application program and it says that there is a program conflict and I should switch to advanced mode to fix it. How do I do that?
[04:51] <ant_> arrenlex: maybe something like that..
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: you may be doing it the hard way
[04:51] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: lemme go find out
[04:51] <rbil> ant_ and that gets him to a cli?
[04:51] <Crell> aptitude purge ejabberd, however, results in ejabberd trying to run, and then it fails with "Can't store backup in /var/tmp/ejabberd-database...".
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: if you see no output, the module loaded
[04:51] <Crell> I get the same thing with ejabberd remove.
[04:51] <owner__> i think its apache what else can it be
[04:51] <NZheretic> _cerbeus_ : Which Dick smith modem are you using?
[04:51] <NZheretic> http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/en/product/XH1254 ??
[04:52] <NZheretic> I'm still googling but what drivers are you using with the XH1254?
[04:52] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, hmm
[04:52] <Crell> apt-get remove tells me I need to (re)install erlang, which I do with apt-get -f install.  Then I try to uninstall ejabberd and the process repeats.
[04:52] <gyaresu> !prefix > owner__
[04:52] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, what app are you trying to install?
[04:52] <Crell> Why is a program trying to do anything at all when I'm trying to expunge it?
[04:52] <gyaresu> !tab | owner__
[04:52] <ubotu> owner__: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:52] <DisabledBobcat> marshall: kompile
[04:52] <arrenlex> Crell: apt-get remove erlang
[04:52] <vafada> !tab | vafada
[04:53] <DisabledBobcat> marshall: i'm thinking that it's me not using kde but i've got other kde programs installed so I wasnt sure. i'm using gnome currently
[04:53] <gyaresu> owner__: There are many web servers. You would know which you installed wouldn't you?
[04:53] <kelsin> arrenlex: just install the nautilus-open-terminal package, it adds the proper script for you, but it is the only way
[04:53] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, you should probably get used to using apt, there is really no point in installing programs from the add/remove. sudo apt-get install kompile
[04:53] <Crell> arrenlex: I get told that ejabberd then has unmet dependencies on erlang-base, and a few other erlang packages.
[04:53] <rusty_> can someone help me installing plainshift
[04:53] <rusty_> i have a bin
[04:53] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: says the module is not found
[04:54] <owner__> gyaresu, yes i installed apache
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: OK so you need to find the makefile and insert the text they say to insert before compiling
[04:54] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, i dont really use the add/remove very much so i dont know where that error could be coming from, but if there is an error when you try to do it with apt, it will tell you what it is
[04:54] <techie_> !cli
[04:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:54] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, and not assume youre retarded and tell you to get someone who isnt
[04:54] <arrenlex> Crell: And apt-get remove --purge erlang erlang-base?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: it will be in the directory created by extracting the tarball
[04:54] <vafada> owner__: check if its running.. check what port (besides 80)
[04:55] <DisabledBobcat> marshall: it says i need another program i'm working on it. thanks for the help though. i appriciate it. I'm very new to linux
[04:55] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: so put 'ZD1211REV_B=1' in before everything?
[04:55] <Crell> arrenlex: Same error.
[04:55] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, no prob
[04:55] <arrenlex> Crell: What if you try to install erlang?
[04:55] <brother> can anyone help me with my printer, im getting an error "unable to copy ppd file"
[04:55] <gyaresu> owner__: Did you follow a guide to install it? Could you post the link. (You really need to provide as much information as possible. You will get much ore help if you show that you're trying)
[04:55] <marshall> DisabledBobcat, ask me if you have any other questions
[04:55] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: LOOK at the makefile and see which line needs editing!
[04:56] <Crell> It looks like it's going to pull in a crapload of stuff, all of which it uninstalled a moment ago when I first tried to purge.
[04:56] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok ok! I'm new to all this remember!
[04:56] <Crell> It's like there's a dependency out of order for removal.
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: :)
[04:56] <Allen3373> thor: that's your name for now on lol. brb
[04:56] <Crell> But I don't know why it would matter when I'm *removing* an app.
[04:56] <owner__> !prefix | gyaresu i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:56] <ubotu> gyaresu i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: thore <tab> to complete
[04:57] <owner__> !gyaresu i install apache
[04:58] <rusty_> can someone help me installing plainshift
[04:58] <burepe> I was messing with file permissions and now synaptic doesn't show up in my main users settings. What did I do?
[04:58] <vafada> owner__: did you run this 'sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start'?
[04:59] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell owner__ about yourself
[04:59] <nixcamic> where can i configure the mount command used by the automounter?
[05:00] <hipitihop> I am in the process of pimping ubuntu to look like a mac and have crashed gnome while resizing the GnomePanel. When the gui restarts, it crashes again. How can I rezise to fix it ?
[05:00] <sycho> anyone tell me the benefits of Beryl or Compiz? Trying to watch the videos in compiz, but its just telling me why microsoft is bad.
[05:00] <vafada> sycho: eye-candy
[05:00] <arrenlex> sycho: Your windows wobble when you move them.
[05:00] <sycho> does it add any functionality or just glamour and shows?
[05:00] <orangey> hey all.
[05:00] <owner__> yes i did
[05:01] <arrenlex> sycho: It's just eyecandy.
[05:01] <orangey> where is evolution's IRC channel?
[05:01] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:01] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, so I changed the 0 to 1. The next step it says is 'make' but obviously that does nothing. what now?
[05:01] <sycho> Wow, sounds kinda pointless. Is it good eyecandy at least?
[05:01] <wastrel> orangey:  prolly irc.gnome.org
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: make should build the module
[05:01] <arrenlex> sycho: Well watch the videos to find out. =P
[05:01] <orangey> wastrel: thank you
[05:01] <arrenlex> sycho: And eyecandy isn't pointless to everyone.
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: make sure you are *in* the directory with the makefile
[05:02] <arrenlex> sycho: Lots of people want their desktops to be shiny, flashy and amazing.
[05:02] <Allen3373> thor: ok\
[05:02] <sycho> so far, its just comparing microsoft 95, 98, 2000. and bashing bill gatesbeing the devil. not one mention of the product
[05:02] <Crell> OK, fuck this.  Where would I find the pre-remove script for a package, so I can just ax it?
[05:02] <Dna^> hello, how to open .rar file on ubuntu?
[05:02] <arrenlex> sycho: Find another video. xD You chose a bad one.
[05:02] <arrenlex> !ohmy | Crell
[05:02] <ubotu> Crell: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:02] <arrenlex> !rar | Dna^
[05:02] <ubotu> Dna^: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:02] <kelsin> sycho: transparency can be useful, it also has expose type of features like in Mac OSX, just gogoel beryl and compiz on youtube, you'll find good videos
[05:02] <vafada> sycho: youtube has tons of beryl compiz videos
[05:02] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: when you see that finish without error, do the "sudo make install" ( remember the "sudo" )
[05:02] <Crell> Me.  Question still stands. :-)
[05:03] <|omegabeta|> Question : how do i stop Ubutu from going straight to the login screen at startup?
[05:03] <arrenlex> Crell: What package is this?
[05:03] <sycho> so which is better beryl or compiz? (in your opinions) or are tehy about the same?
[05:03] <wastrel> |omegabeta|:  what do you want it to do?
[05:03] <gyaresu> |omegabeta|: stop the gdm/kdm service in that runlevel.
[05:03] <Crell> arrenlex: ejabberd
[05:03] <tomcatt> !ubotu sudoers
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <arrenlex> sycho: I think the people in #ubuntu-effects are better equipped to answer that.
[05:03] <tomcatt> !ubotu suders
[05:03] <kelsin> sycho: beryl is a fork of compiz, has more features, also slightly buggier, easier to configure and doesn't rely on gconf
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: it says 'no rule to make target install. Stop.'
[05:04] <PwcrLinux> hello all
[05:04] <arrenlex> !hi | PwcrLinux
[05:04] <ubotu> PwcrLinux: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:04] <tomcatt> !ubotu suder
[05:04] <Dna^> arrenlex i tried to open with archive manager, but it says Archive type no supported.
[05:04] <sycho> Alright. Thanks for the info guys.
[05:04] <tomcatt> !ubotu sudoer
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <gyaresu> |omegabeta|: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[05:04] <arrenlex> Dna^: You need to install unrar-nonfree
[05:04] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: did "make" do anythin? Did stuff scroll by?
[05:04] <wastrel> tomcatt:   try man sudoers
[05:04] <kelsin> Dna^: you need the rar and unrar packages
[05:04] <kelsin> Allen3373: are you in the root folder for this software that you are tryign to compile?
[05:04] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: no. that's what it said after 'make'
[05:04] <Crell> It looks like ejabberd is trying to back itself up when it's being removed, but by the time the script is run erlang is already gone so it can't run.
[05:05] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: yes. it's on the desktop and I'm in the desktop
[05:05] <arrenlex> Dna^: Actually, that's "unrar". Sorry.
[05:05] <PwcrLinux> I had a 161 degrees on my lappy cpu, and I put my own made a PC fan back of my lappy to exuast the heat out... I might clean the dusts out of CPU area..
[05:05] <tomcatt> wastrel:  only if there is something in there that will help restore it.  mine just quit working.  i've never heard of it until i got the error
[05:05] <Dna^> arrenlex how i get them?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: you need to cd to the actual directory
[05:05] <kelsin> Allen3373: you're not in the folder of the software package?
[05:05] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: from ~/Desktop
[05:06] <wastrel> tomcatt:  what error are you getting
[05:06] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: so type 'make ~/desktop'?
[05:06] <Flannel> dRk_sHd0w: No.  Uness you made that (de.archive.ubuntu.com) URL not work.  Just change your mirror, it should work.  (remove the de, juts archive.ubuntu.com), or find one that you can ping regularly
[05:06] <kelsin> Allen3373: no, go into the folder for the software, then from there do "make install"
[05:06] <tomcatt> wastrel:  sudo:  parse error in /etc/sudoers
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: no, type  cd <name-of-folder> ,, then do the "make" step
[05:07] <tomcatt> wastrel:  why am i getting this error, i have no ideo
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: you need to change to the folder/directory it is in
[05:07] <tomcatt> wastrel:  why am i getting this error, i have no idea
[05:07] <wastrel> tomcatt:  you didn't use visudo when you edited the file, and now there's a syntax error in there
[05:07] <pimlinders> do you guys know of and plugins/codecs so that I can watch windows media player/quicktime/real files through fire fox?
[05:07] <tomcatt> wastrel:  I don't know what visudo is
[05:07] <wastrel> tomcatt:  restore a known-good copy
[05:07] <gyaresu> !codecs | pimlinders
[05:07] <ubotu> pimlinders: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <pimlinders> thanks man
[05:07] <tomcatt> wastrel:  can't.  still need sudo
[05:08] <wastrel> tomcatt:  it's a program for editing the sudoers file that checks syntax & prevents this prob :] 
[05:08] <bulmer> tomcatt why are you fooling around with /etc/sudoers if you are not familiar with it?..now you learned, man visudo
[05:08] <wastrel> tomcatt:  you'll have to reboot into recovery mode
[05:09] <dheera> sorry, newbie here to IRC, excuse me if i'm not using proper irc etiquette. i'm using ubuntu with a Matrox G450 dual head and can't seem to get any sort of hardware 3D working. i'm using the mga driver and have read all the documents I can find on the forums and while a patched driver gets glxgears working, i can't get anything more interesting (like Google Earth) to run with acceleration. any ideas?
[05:09] <wekeke> hello
[05:09] <tomcatt> wastrel:  huh, if you haven't notice i side i never knew about a file called sudoers until i got the error.
[05:09] <gyaresu> !howdy | dheera
[05:09] <ubotu> dheera: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:09] <Gesus> hi there.  i am a brand new ubuntu user, migrating from winxp.  i am running the ubuntu 6.10 live cd.  i have three hd's, all ntfs.  i am trying to mount them without losing the data on them.  have been reading tutes and faqs for a few hours, but can't work it out.  sorry for being a noob.  thankyou.
[05:10] <gyaresu> ubotu tell dheera about yourself
[05:10] <gyaresu> !ntfs3g Gesus
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g gesus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g | Gesus
[05:10] <ubotu> Gesus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:10] <Flannel> !ntfs | Gesus
[05:10] <ubotu> Gesus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:10] <bulmer> that would not work for him on a liveCD
[05:10] <wastrel> tomcatt:  ok, but either way the solution is the same.  reboot into single-user mode and replace /etc/sudoers  with a known good copy.
[05:10] <Flannel> Gesus: if you just want to read the data, you don't need ntfs-3g.
[05:11] <kelsin> Gesus: if you don't need write permission for them then using the normal ntfs driver in the kernel is easy, once you actually install you will be able to do that
[05:11] <wekeke> hello all : is amd64 iso of ubuntu applicable for intel 64 bit xeon?
[05:11] <tomcatt> wastrel:  i love this os for the support and amount of files i can get but everytime things are going great, something new always happens.
[05:11] <gyaresu> bulmer: Does edgy disk not have ntfs-3g?
[05:11] <nixcamic> wekeke: yes
[05:11] <Flannel> wekeke: if you want to run 64bit yeah, if you want 32bit, grab the 386
[05:11] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:11] <gyaresu> wekeke: You are better off running 32bit mode.
[05:11] <kelsin> makuseru: with a gui? or text based?
[05:12] <Madpilot> I can't get Totem in Edgy to play .rm movies - I've got every codec I can find installed, and all Totem does is crash, or just play the audio w/o showing the video. Anyone had any luck w/ .rm movies in Edgy?
[05:12] <Gesus> i do want to be able to read/write.  i think i have installed ntfs-3g, but how do i run the program.  i installed via synpatic package manager..?
[05:12] <tomcatt> wastrel:  i'll have to log on to my server and see if i can make a copy.
[05:12] <bulmer> gyaresu: i dont know, but if you're referring to the ability to write into ntfs. I doubt it if its there
[05:12] <dopry> Anyone running feisty and can tell me which version of php is currently packaged with it?
[05:12] <makuseru> kelsin: donst matter
[05:12] <owner__> i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to set everything up
[05:12] <owner__> i made a test.php file and put it in /var/www when i put http://localhost/test.php   it will not load the page.  i am sure that apache is running because when i try to start it it says apache is running
[05:12] <dopry> of php5
[05:12] <pavs> ntfs-3g is no longer beta version. The latest version is version 1.0 .How do you update Ubotu information?
[05:12] <nixcamic> wekeke: If your running a desktop, you probably want i386 for flash player and wine and stuff, on a server you should be fine with amd64
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: no with totem-gstreamer - try gxine with w32codecs
[05:12] <kelsin> makuseru: mencoder, transcode and ffmpeg are all comand line tools for working with video files, the syntax's all get kindof crazy but they can do A LOT, Kino is a simple DV editing program that might be able to help
[05:13] <bulmer> owner__: there is an apache channel for apache questions
[05:13] <wastrel> !info php5 feisty
[05:13] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: or mplayer of course
[05:13] <makuseru> kelsin: kino wont do avi or mpegs, and i dont know many commands for ffmpeg or mencoder
[05:13] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, so why is Ubuntu pushing gstreamer if it's so incomplete?
[05:13] <kelsin> man ffmpeg and man mencoder
[05:13] <wekeke> nixamic: so i386 iso would fine for  athlon 64 then?...
[05:13] <dopry> ubotu, thanks
[05:13] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:13] <dopry> wastrel, thanks.
[05:14] <gyaresu> pavs: You don't update factoids. You ask Seveas really nicely to fix it.
[05:14] <arrenlex> Madpilot: Use mplayer. :)
[05:14] <arrenlex> Madpilot: (disclaimer: mplayer owns my soul)
[05:14] <owner__> what is the apache channel
[05:14] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: it is not for me to question the inscrutable workings of the Ubuntu developers' minds  ;-P
[05:14] <nixcamic> anyone know whats called by hal to mount new media?
[05:14] <Madpilot> arrenlex, Breezy could play everything in totem. why in Hades can't Edgy?
[05:14] <pavs> gyaresu ok just wanted to point it out.
[05:14] <bulmer> owner__:  go to  #apache
[05:14] <arrenlex> owner__: This may surprise you, but it's #apache
[05:14] <arrenlex> owner__: God knows why.
[05:14] <gyaresu> makuseru: avidemux is handy too, but ffmpeg is good.
[05:15] <owner__> yea sorry
[05:15] <arrenlex> Madpilot: Dunno. Codecs, maybe.
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I notice Debian Sid uses the Xine backend by default, btw
[05:15] <thynctank> back for more
[05:15] <dopry> any major gotchas going from edgy to feisty currenlty?
[05:15] <nixcamic> wekeke: yes, i386 should work on a 64bit xeon
[05:15] <makuseru> gyaresu: where can i get a list of commands?
[05:15] <wekeke> ok thanks all for reply
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: totem-xine should handle it too
[05:15] <NZheretic> So does anyone here have recent experience of getting soft modems to work under Ubuntu?
[05:15] <gyaresu> makuseru: 'man ffmpeg' or find a guide that details how to do what you want is usually quicker.
[05:15] <kelsin> Madpilot: gstreamer is a great system and makes video and audio applications easy to make, and make work, the problem is closed formats suck and ussually the first formats to work correctly are not the ones giant corporations push
[05:15] <thynctank> somehow or other I missed the init.d directory earlier, I think I had hit tab for completion but neglected to type .d when looking for apache2 bizness
[05:15] <arrenlex> NZheretic: A modem! I saw one of those in a museum once.
[05:15] <makuseru> ok, thanks
[05:16] <techie_> !cli
[05:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:16] <NZheretic> arrenlex : The joke are two days too late.
[05:16] <thoreauputic> NZheretic: only a Lucent/Agere ltmodem a few years ago ( worked OK)
[05:16] <nixcamic> wekeke: you may need an additional boot option on the install cd
[05:16] <bulmer> hmmm i wonder if anyone here heard of 20ma current loop :)
[05:16] <Madpilot> kelsin, I know, but when xine works fine, why the heck is gstreamer the default in Ubuntu? I'm serious, Breezy had better multimedia support than any of it's successors...
[05:16] <gyaresu> techie_: use: '/msg ubotu _whatever_' when it's just for you.
[05:16] <ironcladlou> i'm on a toshiba laptop with a geforce 460 go video card. using feisty 5. i've installed nvidia-glx. whenever i switch xorg.conf to use the 'nvidia' driver, x starts up with a whacked out display. looks like it's trying to show the wrong frequency on the lcd or something (the whole screen is in weird shades of gray); however, when i flip the driver back to 'nv', everything works fine. any clues?
[05:17] <thynctank> I'm still having issues figuring out where to edit DocumentRoot for apache2...
[05:17] <kelsin> Because gstreamer works across multiple applications and it's the default for Gnome, which is ubuntu's default
[05:17] <wekeke> eh? nixcamic what option is that?
[05:17] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, so I got it now. So do I type the make install in the same directory too?
[05:17] <wastrel> !feisty | ironcladlou
[05:17] <ubotu> ironcladlou: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: first type make
[05:17] <NZheretic> thoreauputic : the Lucent/Agere ltmodem work for me two year ago, recently I have failed to get recent models working.
[05:17] <Flannel> thynctank: since that's a virtual host specific thing (you want to change it on ONE virtual host), you edit the file in sites-available
[05:17] <Gesus> i think i have installed that ntfs-3g program, but how do i execute it?
[05:17] <Madpilot> kelsin, from what I can see, xine works in multiple apps too...
[05:17] <Chopperman> Its been a while, lemme ask again - would I have to boot using a command line cd to make a linux.bin for use with windows bootloader?
[05:17] <thynctank> there's almost no lines in httpd.conf which is where I was originally going to edit
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: that build the module
[05:17] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: I did that
[05:17] <thynctank> sites-available... ok
[05:17] <nixcamic> wekeke: unfortunantly i forgot, it should work fine in 6.10 though
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: then do the sudo make install
[05:18] <Flannel> thynctank: or, perhaps a better idea would be to copy it, and edit the copy.  then disable the 000-default, and enable your copy (by unlinking 000-default in sites-enabled, and symlinking yours)
[05:18] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: then you do  sudo modprobe <modulename> as before
[05:18] <gyaresu> Chopperman: Why are you trying to use the windows bootloader?
[05:18] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, then after that, where do I do the modprobe?
[05:18] <wekeke> nixcamic: i have here dapper drake.. anyway i'll just test it..thanks
[05:18] <thynctank> why does it use links vs simply scanning the file from the dir?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: anywhere - sudo modprobe <modulename>
[05:18] <Chopperman> Gyaresu - so I can continue to use the boot to media functions on my Hp laptop
[05:19] <Borat> Hey Guys, my toolbar just dissapeared on Xchat, does anyone know the key to get it back?, it should be on the view options...
[05:19] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, cool. afk
[05:19] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: if that doesn't complain, it worked
[05:19] <wastrel> what toolbar in xchat
[05:19] <kelsin> Madpilot: I'll leave you to do the research about the gstreamer framework on your own time, the answer to your question is it's the new gnome default, can't please everyone
[05:19] <Flannel> thynctank: It does use links.  It scans /sites-enabled/ sites-available is there so you can have disabled sites as well as enabled ones, without having to remove them completely
[05:19] <nixcamic> wekeke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/32bitonAMD64
[05:19] <gyaresu> Chopperman: Cool. Just wanted to check if it wasn't just a bad idea ;) Sorry, I don't know.
[05:19] <thynctank> right, something which you'd normally access via a cpanel or other such interface these days
[05:19] <gyaresu> Chopperman: Have you tried in the #linux channel
[05:20] <Chopperman> gyaresu - thank anyhow. I do appreciate it
[05:20] <thynctank> no chance of getting cpanel on ubuntu I don't assume hehe
[05:20] <thynctank> or rather the whm part
[05:20] <Chopperman> gyaresu: no I havent. Maybe I should
[05:20] <Madpilot> thynctank, CPanel is propietary, and expensive to license
[05:20] <thynctank> huh, didn't realize
[05:20] <gyaresu> Chopperman: It's a linux issue. I reckon that will be the place.
[05:20] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:21] <Chopperman> gyaresu - good thought. Thanks. I am a bit new yet :)
[05:21] <thynctank> it's funny, I still have the stigma that proprietary products look more polished and it's so not true anymore
[05:21] <kelsin> makuseru: I just gave you the main command line programs...
[05:21] <gyaresu> makuseru: Havn't we just been there?
[05:21] <makuseru> i cant find any info on how to split with ffmpeg
[05:21] <Madpilot> thynctank, I checked CPanel's homepage once (curiousity) and their license fees are fairly staggering.
[05:21] <thynctank> bastards
[05:21] <daya> #/join #debian
[05:21] <thynctank> and there's no significantly built-up OSS equiv?
[05:22] <wekeke> nixcamic: thanks
[05:22] <hipitihop> in the process of getting ubuntu to look like a mac I have crashed gnome just after resizing the GnomePanel. When the gui restarts, it crashes again. How can I fix it ?
[05:22] <nixcamic> wekeke: no problem
[05:22] <thynctank> oh completely unrelated question on ubuntu though
[05:22] <Flannel> hipitihop: When logging in, under "session" choose "Safe Gnome" (or something like that)
[05:22] <Madpilot> thynctank, there's http://www.alternc.org/ which is FLOSS and looks pretty good. Not as polished as CPanel, but functional
[05:22] <Flannel> hipitihop: that'll load gnome without any startup scripts, so you can remove the offendign one
[05:23] <hipitihop> flannel: brilliant .. thanks I'll give it a go .
[05:23] <thynctank> I set my box to hibernate and when I power back up, it asks for pass, even though I have it set to auto-pass at regular power up/logon
[05:23] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: there was an error with modprobe. it sais error inserting, operation not permitted.
[05:23] <thynctank> any way to disable the pass dialog?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: did you prepend sudo ?
[05:24] <B|00d|u5T> whats the chan for beryl again
[05:24] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: sudo modprobe
[05:24] <B|00d|u5T> ubuntu effects or somethin
[05:24] <Flannel> B|00d|u5T: #ubuntu-effects
[05:24] <hipitihop> flannel: where will I find Gnome Panel config ? how will I reset it to default ?
[05:24] <makuseru> #beryl
[05:24] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: no.. brb
[05:24] <Gesus> hi there i am trying to mount three ntfs harddrives that have data on them i want to keep  i will eventually install ubuntu 6.10 onto one of them (running livecd at the moment).  i have installed ntfs-3g via synaptic package manager, but that is as far as i've gotten.  no idea how to launch apps in ubuntu.  anyone want to help a noob?
[05:24] <Flannel> hipitihop: I don't have the slightest idea.  I haven't had a GUI in years ;)
[05:25] <nutterpc> Flannel: using irssi atm I take it?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> root: don't IRC as root, it's silly
[05:25] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g | Gesus
[05:25] <ubotu> Gesus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:25] <Flannel> nutterpc: of course
[05:25] <hipitihop> flannel:  good for you .. bad for me :-(
[05:25] <Borat> Hey Guys, my toolbar just dissapeared on Xchat, does anyone know the key to get it back?, it should be on the view options...
[05:25] <nutterpc> Flannel: once you irssi, you never go back
[05:26] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, happily, totem-xine still plays everything. Why it isn't default, I have no idea...
[05:26] <nixcamic> anyone know how i can change the mount command used to automount new media?
[05:26] <Flannel> hipitihop: well, I'm sure someone else here can help.  Even if I had a GUI, all I'd do is stumble through the menus anyway ;)  You can always manually do it by editing the config files themselves (in your home dir)
[05:26] <Borat> neverming
[05:26] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: neither have I
[05:26] <ToddEDM> hey guys, is there a way i can get a sound scheme, that will install automatically..... since im a newb
[05:26] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, shall we file a bug titled "Totem-gstreamer is utter crap"? (slightly less than half joking...)
[05:27] <hipitihop> flannel: sounds far too tricky for a newb but hey .. i'll try
[05:27] <nutterpc> Flannel: irssi, links & mplayer........all you need to keep you entertained =)
[05:27] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: hahaha - well, it *is* improving :)
[05:27] <Gesus> What is a good file system to run with ubuntu and also to be able to share on a network with Windows machines?  Does it matter very much?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[05:27] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:27] <Flannel> !samba | Gesus
[05:27] <ubotu> Gesus: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:27] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  windows can read/write to ext2/3
[05:27] <Borat> Totem actually is really good Madpilot, (well it is in feisty of course)
[05:27] <Crell> Gesus: Samba for the network connection.  The local file system doesn't matter over a network.
[05:27] <Gesus> ty
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  with that tool
[05:27] <Flannel> Dr_willis: he's doing it on a network, FS is irrelevant
[05:27] <Dr_willis> oh i missread. :)
[05:27] <pimlinders> any one know how to get quciktime/windows media to work, i keep on getting errors (such as unable to access) and with quicktime i can see video but only for a split second
[05:27] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:28] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, yes, in Breezy it was a total, complete waste of space. Now in Edgy it's merely almost useless. Perhaps in 18 more months it'll be worth the hard-drive space...
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <nutterpc> Flannel: gunna have some fun with gentoo on my other pc i have here
[05:28] <PwcrLinux> Hey, I found out, my lappy looks good no more lagging, that was a CPU heat overheat. I put my own homemade PC fan back of my lappy's exaust vent, much better, plan to clean the dust out later time.. I thought was a kernel.. finally found it's CPU termal detection can a lappy slow down and lagging when browsing sites and movies
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Borat: afaics it still can't do rm reall media files
[05:28] <Dr_willis> the fact he asked what filesstem confused me. :)
[05:28] <Madpilot> Borat, I really like Totem's UI. It's gstreamer's uselessness at actually playing media files that is bugging me.
[05:28] <ToddEDM> hey gyaresu... I got all mt issues sorted out ... i got sound and i also got my vid card working
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: the Feisty version is somewhat less crippled
[05:29] <pimlinders> any one know how to get quciktime/windows media to work, i keep on getting errors (such as unable to access) and with quicktime i can see video but only for a split second
[05:29] <thoreauputic> !codecs| pimlinders
[05:29] <ubotu> pimlinders: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:29] <nutterpc> damnit, I have to work tomorrow :(
[05:29] <PwcrLinux> 147 degrees much better now
[05:29] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, oh good, I think I'll wait another 18 months before trying totem-gstreamer again, though.
[05:29] <Borat> Madpilot, have you downloaded all the codecs for it?
[05:29] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, did that. if I remember correctly, you said if it doesn't say anything it worked right?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: :)
[05:29] <pimlinders> thoreaputic: i tried that but still had problems
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: right
[05:29] <Madpilot> Borat, yes, I've got every codec known to man and apt-get. Totem-gstreamer still crashes trying to play my RM movies.
[05:29] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: I'll continue then lol
[05:29] <Artemis3> there is still totem-xine...
[05:29] <pimlinders> thoreaputic: i can see the player now insteed of white box
[05:30] <nutterpc> I might even consider doing a DVD Compression guide on the forums soon, once my desktop machine is up & running
[05:30] <Artemis3> and mplayer and vlc...
[05:30] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: now add the module to /etc/modules at the bottom on a separate line so it will load at boot
[05:30] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: gksudo "gedit /etc/modules"
[05:30] <Artemis3> nutterpc, ever seen tovid?
[05:30] <Gesus> is there a gui for ntfs-3g?
[05:31] <l2s> Hi apparently with the 2.6 kernel support for the dell perc2 scsi raid controller was dropped, how would you ho about installing ubuntu 6.06 server on such a box?
[05:31] <nutterpc> Artemis3: wtf is that :)
[05:31] <PwcrLinux> Hi thoreauputic and madpilot :)
[05:31] <nutterpc> best dvd to avi tool, is Acidrip
[05:31] <nutterpc> imo
[05:31] <Madpilot> evening PwcrLinux
[05:31] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: hi
[05:31] <Artemis3> nutterpc, anything to dvd video scripts...
[05:31] <nutterpc> ahh ok
[05:32] <nutterpc> DVD->AVI I use Acidrip under *nix, under Windows its FlaskMPEG
[05:32] <Madpilot> Artemis3, ya, I just switched back to totem-xine. I'll avoid totem-gstreamer for another 18 months, it might actually be worth looking at by then...
[05:32] <l2s> anyone know what to do to get around the kernel support for teh card being dropped?
[05:32] <Artemis3> i rarely use totem for video playback
[05:32] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:32] <PwcrLinux> Madpilot: I just found out, it's was a thermal detection on CPU heats would auto setting slow down and lagging. I plan to clean the dust out will be better faster performance..
[05:33] <crimsun> l2s: what do you mean "dropped"? Do you mean "not included in the default initrd" or "not ported to 2.6"?
[05:33] <ironcladlou> when enabling the nvidia driver on my geforce4 460 go (feisty 5), i get a crazy gray screen on my LCD. i can hear the login noises, and xorg does not crash. i can see nothing but the weird gray stuff. when i flip the driver back to 'nv' in xorg.conf, everything is fine. any clues? i've tried both nvidia-glx-config and dpkg-reconfigure, to no avail.
[05:33] <l2s> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201858&highlight=perc2
[05:34] <nixcamic> what does kubuntu use to automount usb drives?
[05:34] <Artemis3> ironcladlou, sound something for #ubuntu+1
[05:34] <crimsun> I can't navigate to UF urls. What's the synopsis?
[05:34] <panfist> hey, im not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, but i'd like to be able to use VMware to run windows within ubuntu and vice versa...there are plenty of guides explaining how to run .iso files in vmware, or existing windows installs in ubuntu, but how can i convert an existing ubuntu install to run in vmware in windows?
[05:34] <l2s> i think it was removed, crumsun
[05:34] <ironcladlou> Artemis3: i'll give it a shot
[05:35] <l2s> the new megaraid_mbox driver does not support the perc2 card
[05:35] <thoreauputic> panfist: google  easyvmx
[05:35] <l2s> so ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 server wont install
[05:35] <l2s> the only thing that did install was 6.10 desktop
[05:35] <mike01> where are the proper sata drivers to select when compiling a kernel?
[05:35] <omeil> !img
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <omeil> !iso
[05:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:36] <crimsun> l2s: if 6.10 desktop does install, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get 6.10 installed on said box
[05:36] <panfist> thanks@thoreauputic
[05:36] <sivik> has anyone here been having problems with firefox and crashing?
[05:36] <l2s> 6.10 server borks on the install doesnt see the raid card at all
[05:36] <thoreauputic> panfist: you're welcome :)
[05:36] <nixcamic> if noone knows what kubuntu uses to automount drives, what does ubuntu use?
[05:36] <l2s> i wanted 6.06 so i can have teh longer support
[05:36] <Gesus> where do i type in system commands??
[05:36] <sivik> Gesus, terminal/konsole
[05:37] <thoreauputic> panfist: search the ubuntu wiki too - there are pages about vmware etc
[05:37] <omeil> !cue
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <sivik> Gesus: or from one of the six tty's
[05:37] <omeil> !bin
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <thoreauputic> omeil: stop fishing the bot please
[05:37] <l2s> crimsun another problem is the network keeps going to sleep
[05:37] <Gesus> how do i find the console though?
[05:37] <hipitihop> The gui crashes in failsafe mode too ... can anyone advise how I can reset the gnomepanel when the session crashes
[05:37] <l2s> cant figure out why since i have turned power mgt off
[05:37] <thoreauputic> !botabuse| omeil
[05:37] <ubotu> omeil: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:37] <Gesus> this is my first day haha
[05:38] <cas3> is there well documented way to integrate lynx, links, or elinks with aalib?
[05:38] <sivik> Gesus: thats cool
[05:38] <nixcamic> Gesus: press ctrl+alt+f1 through f6
[05:38] <l2s> any ideas?
[05:38] <the79bomb> Gesus, the console is under applications, accessories, terminal
[05:38] <omeil> umm how do i mount a .img file?
[05:38] <nixcamic> then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gui
[05:38] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: hey! It works now! thanks a lot!!! one last question though. is it perminent?
[05:38] <Sima_Yi> !iso
[05:38] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:39] <daya> rapid,hi
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: add the module to /etc/modules
[05:39] <rapid> daya, hi
[05:39] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: how do I do that?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Allen3373:  gksudo "gedit /etc/modules" - add the module name on the last line
[05:39] <Sima_Yi> can someone plz help me with this:
[05:39] <rnd_null> --NEEDS IDEAS-- I'm trying to get "man -k" to append ALL to a file....i can't quite get it.....anyone have an idea i could use?
[05:40] <daya> rapid, what is the live cd structure of ubuntu
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: the name you used for "sudo modprobe"
[05:40] <rapid> daya, what do you mean?
[05:40] <Sima_Yi> im trying to monut an ISO
[05:40] <Sima_Yi> the way i would in windows using damon-tools
[05:40] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: ok, brb
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: glad to hear it is working :)
[05:40] <Sima_Yi> what should I put for the mount poing
[05:40] <Sima_Yi> ?
[05:40] <arrenlex> !iso | Suma_Yi
[05:40] <ubotu> Suma_Yi: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Sima_Yi,  a normal iso? not some fancy copy proitected game?
[05:40] <daya> rapid, I want to know the working principle of live cd of ubuntu
[05:40] <eck> Sima_Yi: wherever you want the iso to be mounted
[05:41] <rapid> daya, what made you ask me ? :)
[05:41] <Sima_Yi> mount: mount point /home/iso does not exist
[05:41] <ingo> !burn
[05:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:41] <rnd_null> Anyone use Feisty yet?  It works great on my averatec 2200 series.
[05:41] <kelsin> Sima_Yi: make the directory with mkdir first
[05:41] <daya> rapid, hey why ? I have take to you some weeks ago
[05:41] <Sima_Yi> oh
[05:41] <Dr_willis> one of the more 'correct and accurate' error messages that linux has.. :)
[05:41] <daya> rapid, and I think you know about it,
[05:41] <Dr_willis> it dosent exist.. :) yep.. totally right.. heh heh.
[05:42] <rapid> daya: ah fair enough , sorry couldn't remember the nick.
[05:42] <Sima_Yi> awsome!  Thanks for the help
[05:42] <Sima_Yi> :)
[05:42] <omeil> ubuntu is a deb based system isn't it?
[05:42] <l2s> im pretty surprised ubuntu didnt work on a standard dell server
[05:42] <rapid> yes
[05:42] <kelsin> omeil: yes
[05:42] <omeil> is kubuntu better?
[05:42] <Symmetria> heh
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> !best | omeil
[05:42] <ubotu> omeil: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:42] <rapid> it just uses kde
[05:43] <kelsin> omeil: the only different is what desktop they use
[05:43] <jrm4> I cannot seem to enable copy/paste in VNC; i.e. Windows XP VNC viewer to an Ubuntu (x11vnc) server. Any help?
[05:43] <Symmetria> to all the people who claim you cannot get decent tcp transfer rates over high latency
[05:43] <Symmetria> 1041111040 bytes transferred in 104 seconds (9.57M/s)
[05:43] <Symmetria> !
[05:43] <Symmetria> 400 ms latency
[05:43] <rpc> are there any settings in eth bridge that may lower the performance of a network?
[05:43] <rnd_null> does anyone know how to "man -k * > man.txt" ?? It doesn't like the '*'
[05:43] <arrenlex> Symmetria: Stop feeding your modem steroids. It's bad for it.
[05:43] <omeil> KDE's dekstop is more customizable isn't it?
[05:43] <arrenlex> omeil: Yes. But, as a consequence, more confusing.
[05:43] <l2s> Is there a place you can pay a bit for ubuntu support but not an insanely high amt
[05:43] <eck> Symmetria: yes, but try turning off window scaling :-)
[05:44] <rpc> rnd_null try #bash, they are really nice in there
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> l2s: check the marketplace
[05:44] <l2s> ?
[05:44] <rnd_null> rpc: try #bash?
[05:44] <l2s> url?
[05:44] <Symmetria> eck heh had to modify the hell outta what it could scale to to get that kinda speed anyway
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> l2s: ubuntu.com/support/paid I think
[05:44] <Dr_willis> omeil: Yes. But, as a consequence, more useable. :)
[05:44] <rpc> l2s what you need? one time help or?
[05:45] <omeil> hmm ok so its good and bad? jesus lol
[05:45] <l2s> basically one time help and install
[05:45] <arrenlex> omeil: Try it out. I use KDE and I love it. If you don't like it, you can remove it.
[05:45] <l2s> but im sure there will be more
[05:45] <rpc> rnd_null you needed help with some bash stuff
[05:45] <arrenlex> omeil: Yes. Most things in life are both good and bad.
[05:45] <rpc> l2s hm
[05:45] <omeil> so its apt-get install kde?
[05:45] <rapid> l2s, its quite simple.. you could probably do it
[05:45] <arrenlex> !kde | omeil
[05:45] <ubotu> omeil: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:45] <rnd_null> rpc no, no, i just want a copy of a list of all my man pages
[05:45] <rpc> l2s: anything that can't be answered here i will help you with :)
[05:45] <jrm4> omeil: - i find all the options in KDE interesting, but I had to get rid of it because it got in the way of me doing actual work. But that's just me.
[05:46] <omeil> oh oky doky
[05:46] <rnd_null> rpc to figure out what commands i don't know and can play with
[05:46] <l2s> i tried with 6.06 server, the only thing that did install was 6.10 desktop
[05:46] <l2s> its a dell server box with perc2 raid
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> How is the -server kernel different from -generic?
[05:46] <panfist> thoreauputic: i dont know if im overlooking something really simple but i dont see a way to convert my existing ubuntu install into a VM
[05:46] <daya> rapid, any idea about my quest.
[05:46] <l2s> its a bit old but fairly standard
[05:46] <omeil> im gona get it :D. ah crap gotta wait till acetoneiso downloads
[05:46] <eck> tonyyarusso: i think it has support for highmem and smp, and some drivers for some server-specific hardware
[05:46] <thoreauputic> panfist: you need to make an image to run in vmware
[05:47] <rapid> daya: i'm not clear as to what you want to know, specifically about the structure of the disk?
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> eck: ah
[05:47] <kelsin> rnd_null: there are A LOT, you're better off looking up linux,bash or console tutorials on the web
[05:47] <omeil> anyone used AcetoneISO before. if so is it any good?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> panfist: you can install ubuntu into a vmplayer image
[05:47] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: PREEMPT is the biggest difference (server doesn't)
[05:47] <kelsin> rnd_null: system commands are listed in /bin and you can do the command "find" from /usr/share/man to get a list too
[05:47] <panfist> thoreauputic: i have ubuntu installed that ive been using for a while configured how i like it which i would like to convert into a virtual machine
[05:47] <thoreauputic> panfist: the easy vmx thing just supplies a virtual machine config
[05:47] <panfist> thoreauputic: or do i have to start over
[05:47] <daya> rapid, how actually live cd of ubuntu is different from that of other such as morphix , knoppix etc
[05:47] <panfist> thoreauputic: ahhh
[05:48] <jrm4> Sorry to repeat, maybe I wasnt clear--I can VNC from ubuntu to ubuntu and copy/paste works fine. But I'm trying to VNC from an XP client to an Ubuntu server, and I can't seem to copy and paste; tried TightVNC and UltraVNC but no luck. Might be overlooking something? thanks again.
[05:48] <rnd_null> kelsin I know how much there is, the only method I've had work makes lots of duplicates in the txt file
[05:48] <thoreauputic> panfist: I have only used vmware with installs made in vmware
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: what's that mean?
[05:48] <arrenlex> Flannel: Wat does preeempt do?
[05:48] <rnd_null> kelsin i just want to get rid of the duplicates
[05:48] <kelsin> rnd_null: well I still don't think browsing through that list will help you at all
[05:48] <omeil> ok im confused now...does anyone know if crossover runs WoW better than Cedega?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> panfist: ie. i installed ubuntu into a vmdk or whatever they call it
[05:48] <panfist> thoreauputic: i'm almost as much of a vmware noob as i am a linux noob so forgive me if i need things spelled out..i think im going to do some more research before i try to do this task
[05:48] <arrenlex> omeil: afaik plain wine runs wow fine.
[05:48] <Gesus> hello again.  when i use that ctrl--alt--f1 to go to the console, how do i get back to the desktop?? :)
[05:49] <thoreauputic> panfist: have you checked the wiki?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !vmware
[05:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:49] <arrenlex> Gesus: ctrl+alt+f7
[05:49] <Gesus> sweet. thankyou.
[05:49] <kelsin> rnd_null: "cat <file> | uniq"
[05:49] <Dr_willis> omeil,  i would be suprised if  that was true.. of course a problem with WoW and wine  is that every WoW update seems to break somthing.. so it gets to be who can fix/patch wine faster.. Cedega is very good at that.
[05:49] <omeil> arrenlex: i installed it on crossover and seems ok . sounds gets lil crackily sometimes for no reason.
[05:49] <arrenlex> Gesus: As a rule, consoles 1-6, X on 7.
[05:49] <rnd_null> kelsin :) forgot about that...thx
[05:49] <rapid> daya: not sure I could help you exactly, google may have some good information.. they all work around the linux kernel but.
[05:50] <kelsin> since wine 9.28 wow has run for me with no problems at all
[05:50] <Gesus> thanks.  i think this is going to take me a while to gets these drives mounted and using ubuntu as freely i use windows.  but i guess it's worth it.
[05:50] <Flannel> arrenlex, tonyyarusso, PREEMPT is one of two preempting systems, when disabled (in the server), it slows the response times for interrupt heavy input (like mousing, etc),
[05:50] <omeil> but i think crossover would run wow better because the are only focused on 2 games lol STEAM and WoW. to update wow on crossover u just double click the exe update and done :D
[05:50] <panfist> thoreauputic: which wiki is "the" wiki
[05:50] <omeil> Do you guys play WoW on the official servers or private servers?
[05:50] <kelsin> omeil: I update wow just using the blizzard updated, works fine
[05:50] <kelsin> omeil: official
[05:50] <Flannel> arrenlex, tonyyarusso, but it does make software run slightly faster (because the kernel doesn't ever have to worry about those interrupts).  But if you're going to actually use a GUI, you probably do't want it
[05:51] <thoreauputic> panfist: sorry - wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:51] <_goofy_> other than not hearing anything how can i tell if ubuntu has detected me soundcard
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: gotcha
[05:51] <omeil> I play on private.
[05:51] <ramza3> is this a valid mode "-rwsr-xr-x 1"
[05:51] <panfist> thoreauputic: thanks
[05:51] <ramza3> is this a valid mode "-rwsr-xr-x"
[05:51] <omeil> kelsin: have u tried AcetoneISO?
[05:52] <kelsin> omeil: what is it?
[05:52] <crimsun> _goofy_: follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and tell us the URL
[05:52] <Flannel> ramza3: no.  "s" isnt
[05:52] <GabrielG> has anyone figured out the NTFS repartition bug in herd5?
[05:52] <Nargaroth> I have one laptop hp dv 2120us. When I am under windows the headphone and the speakers works fine but when i am under ubuntu linux only the speakers works... how can i fix it? i need the headphones works as well.
[05:52] <thoreauputic> panfist: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[05:52] <_goofy_> how can i get my sound card working
[05:52] <crimsun> ramza3: yes, it's valid. that's 4755. What's the question?
[05:52] <omeil> kelsin: apparently it is an image mounting program for linux similair to daemon tools
[05:52] <ramza3> Flannel, then why is it in my octal mode; I set a file with chmod u+s /file
[05:52] <Gesus> !help ntfs-3g
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ntfs-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <kelsin> omeil: ahhh, no real reason to use it, never have had to do that in linux
[05:52] <omeil> kelsin: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44805
[05:53] <Gesus> !ntfs-3g
[05:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:53] <omeil> kelsin: pretty good to have just in case tho
[05:53] <thoreauputic> panfist: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/  ( more general info)
[05:53] <Flannel> ramza3: s is 'set user or group ID on execution'
[05:53] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: If you double click the volume icon you can unmute the mic.
[05:53] <Nargaroth> gyaresu its not the mic its the headphone
[05:54] <Nargaroth> gyaresu my headphones are not working under linux!
[05:54] <crimsun> _goofy_: you need to provide info; we can't blindly guess
[05:54] <ramza3> Flannel, hmm, you know anything about cifs and mounting a samba mount on boot, I changed the mode of the /sbin/mount.cifs file and the uid/gid settings arent propogating
[05:54] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: What's the difference between your 'headphones' and you 'speakers'. I don't understand. Do you have two soundcards?
[05:55] <Cybercat101> hi
[05:55] <omeil> can another windows xp drive enter my linux drive from a network?
[05:55] <omeil> xm comp i mean
[05:55] <gyaresu> !howdy Cybercat101
[05:55] <Cybercat101> I need help learning how to install programs with ubuntu
[05:55] <kelsin> !software | Cybercat101
[05:55] <ubotu> Cybercat101: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[05:56] <MTecknology> I am using Ubuntu on a Gateway M285-E Tablet. I am using wireless over an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station. Any other wireless access point and my Internet works fine. Over this setup it goes slow. If I connect to a wired connection it also goes slow. I tried disabling IPv6 to see if that speeds things up but that didn't help. It seems to do fine once it find the web page but it takes a while to find web page... Any ideas on how
[05:56] <MTecknology> to fix this?
[05:56] <GabrielG> omeil: yea, you need to setup a samba share
[05:56] <Nargaroth> gyaresu no dude.. i have the headphone and the notebooks sounds!
[05:56] <eck> omeil: only if you have configured it to do that
[05:56] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: Internal speakers are fine then? Just when you plug the headphones in you can't hear anything?
[05:56] <CoRnJuLiOx> how do i set up my microphone? i've got a headset w/mic and every time i go to sound recorder, it says that my capture settings are invalid
[05:57] <omeil> oh ok its just that i can access this comp on the network but it asks for a password that i never even set
[05:57] <Nargaroth> gyaresu yes
[05:58] <omeil> so i can't get in :D
[05:58] <Allen3373> thoreaupudic: so.. I added it to /etc/modules... hen restarted, but nothing works now. I tried redoing it all and it still doesn't work.
[05:58] <Nargaroth> gyaresu the internal speaker works fine... but the heaphone dont work under linux
[05:58] <x2mjokada> !usplash
[05:58] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:58] <Nargaroth> gyaresu but under windows its ok
[05:58] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: What is the sound chip? 'lspci' then look for the audio chip.
[05:59] <Eclipse75> does the tab key normally work under emacs???
[05:59] <gabz> xsupplicant and atheros wireless cards anyone gotten it to work ?
[05:59] <Eclipse75> gabz, look into madwifi
[05:59] <Eclipse75> at least for the atheros chipset
[05:59] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: umm - see if the module loaded - lsmod | less and look for it
[05:59] <kelsin> Nargaroth: use a volume mixer (alsamixer or gnome-volume-control) and make sure the headphone volume is up
[05:59] <omeil> anyone here play on WoW private servers?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: possibly you didn't save /etc/modules ? I don't know...
[06:00] <gyaresu> kelsin: And the phones are plugged in ;) /sarcasm
[06:00] <Dr_willis> omeil,  gee.. that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happin. :)
[06:00] <panfist> omeil: i highly doubt anyone would advertise that very much in a public chat
[06:00] <gabz> Eclipse75, the card works on non PEAP networks and xsupplicant works on my intel wireless card but atheros and xsupplicant don't work
[06:00] <Nargaroth> kelsin gyaresu the headphone controls dont appears
[06:00] <omeil> lol
[06:00] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: I saved, and tried recompiling and then modprobe and ifconfig and iwconfig again... but lemme go see.
[06:00] <gabz> !madwifi
[06:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:00] <omeil> im just asking :)
[06:00] <Eclipse75> gabz, no clue from me. ive not messed with either of them
[06:00] <omeil> its hard to find a good one
[06:01] <jlgaddis> hey, is there an easy way to copy dvd's in ubuntu?
[06:01] <gabz> Eclipse75, thanks
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: no point recompiling if it's already compiled and installed :)
[06:01] <Nargaroth> gyaresu i dont remember the name but its ok with the drivers... i used alsaconf and it found the sound card
[06:01] <kelsin> omeil for a reason, if you want to keep discussing this more it to the offtopic channel though
[06:01] <Dr_willis> jlgaddis,  you refering to data dvd's or movie dvd's
[06:01] <Nargaroth> gyaresu configured and the internal speakers was working
[06:01] <GabrielG> in the herd 5 release notes, it said there were problems with the ntfs partitioner, but that they could be solved by entering 'mv     /usr/bin/ntfsresize /usr/bin/ntfsresize.real'
[06:01] <jlgaddis> Dr_willis: movie dvd's
[06:01] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: It may be a bug. You checked that the headphone sound level was up?
[06:01] <omeil> there's an offtopic channel?
[06:01] <GabrielG> however, there is no /usr/bin/ntfsresize
[06:01] <Crell> OK, is anyone here running a jabber server on Edgy-Server, and able to recommend it?
[06:01] <r4nge> can an "if [condition]  then commands" statement have multiple lines of commands after the "then"
[06:01] <kelsin> !offtopic | omeil
[06:01] <ubotu> omeil: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:02] <kelsin> r4nge: yes
[06:02] <GabrielG> there is a /usr/sbin/ntfsresize though - so i cp'd that to both /usr/sbin/ntfsresize.real and /usr/bin/ntfsresize.real
[06:02] <GabrielG> but no dice
[06:02] <jlgaddis> Crell: not ubuntu, but running an enterprise jabber server on debian
[06:02] <Crell> I'm just looking for a single-server solution, but MUC, audio, and video (if available in the client) would be good.
[06:02] <Nargaroth> gyaresu yes
[06:02] <Gesus> hello. is anyone available to walk me through mounting my three ntfs hd's?  i have been reading tutes and faqs for hours now (including !ntfs-3g help in this channel) but i just can't make it work.  thankyou.
[06:02] <kelsin> GabrielG: for help with fiesty and herd5 use the #ubuntu+1 channel
[06:02] <omeil> thx kelsin
[06:02] <Crell> jlgaddis: Define "enterprise jabber server".
[06:02] <MTecknology> Does anybody know anything about administration of an Airport Extreme Base Station from Linux?
[06:02] <Nargaroth> gyaresu its ok!
[06:02] <Crell> I doubt I'll have more than a dozen users, maximum.
[06:02] <r4nge> hmm, for some reason the "curl" commands i have after the then dont run when i crontab the script but when i execute the script normally it works fine
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  whats the issue you are having? you mount them read only fine?
[06:02] <Flannel> !ntfs | Gesus, you don't need ntfs-3g for juts reading.
[06:02] <ubotu> Gesus, you don't need ntfs-3g for juts reading.: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:02] <jlgaddis> Crell: a jabber installation supporting 107k+ users?
[06:02] <Nargaroth> gyaresu i tested with more than one headphone
[06:02] <Cybercat101> hi
[06:03] <Crell> I used to use ejabberd, but for some reason it's gone belly up and refuses to even give me useful error messages.
[06:03] <Crell> jlgaddis: Yeah, way out of the league I need. :-)
[06:03] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: If the volume is up then it may be a specific driver problem for your chipset or alsa version.
[06:03] <Gesus> Dr_willis: no i can't mount them at all it seems.  i can't even access them.  but yes i do need to be able to read and write to them.
[06:03] <r4nge> does crontab not like scripts that have multiple commands in it?
[06:03] <mau> anybody know why my dinovo bluetooth keyboard won't work on startup without having to unplug the usb and replugging?
[06:03] <Quattro> hi all
[06:03] <Crell> Which server?
[06:03] <Crell> jlgaddis: Which jabber server, specifically?
[06:03] <Nargaroth> gyaresu what should i do?
[06:04] <jlgaddis> Crell: jabberd 2.x branch, it's at an .edu.  we don't ever have that many concurrent users of course.
[06:04] <witless> hi.  i just put a hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 in my system.  where should i go to get it working with tv tuning and capturing video?
[06:04] <kelsin> Nargaroth: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ look up your card there and see if they say anything
[06:04] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: What is the sound chip? 'lspci' then look for the audio chip.
[06:04] <Cybercat101> was wondering if there was emmulators that would work with ubuntu to make windows programs work properly
[06:04] <Crell> How is it for setup and config?
[06:04] <StormGuy> Due to soundcard issues, I've been using my USB audio to listen to things. I'm able to listen to music using Audacious, but I can't figure out how to do the same for my video players (mainly Totem) and for Swiftfox.  I've tried poking around the preferences, but I can't find anything.  Any advice would be great.
[06:04] <Crell> When I was last looking into jabber servers 2 years ago, IIRC jabber 2.x was rather shaky.
[06:04] <kelsin> witless: you need the ivtv driver so google "ivtv ubuntu" then look into install mythtv to do the tv and capturing stuff (or other software, but the driver is ivtv)
[06:04] <jlgaddis> Crell: not bad, was able to delegate it out to someone else and he managed to get it working
[06:04] <mau> witless, #mythtv-users is a great resource if you're interested in mythtv
[06:04] <witless> kelsin: mau: thanks
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  one step at a time. :) lets just get them readable ... you got a ntfs partition on /dev/hda1 ?
[06:05] <Crell> jlgaddis: "managed".  That doesn't instill confidence. ;-)
[06:05] <jlgaddis> Crell: you don't know him.  =)
[06:05] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Swing in the dark but can you run 'asoundconf list' and have it listed?
[06:05] <Nargaroth> kelsin i am not under linux atm
[06:05] <Crell> hehe.
[06:05] <jlgaddis> Crell: jabberd supported ldap and postgresql, both of which we needed
[06:05] <Crell> And of course only jabber 1.x is in the edgy repository.
[06:05] <kelsin> Nargaroth: you can still goto that site and look up your card to see if this headphone is a known issue
[06:05] <Cybercat101> can anyone tell me how I could get a windows program that I was using in XP called active worlds and I need it to work with my
[06:05] <Crell> jlgaddis: I doubt I'll be using either, although good to know if I ever setup LDAP just to see if I can.
[06:05] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Yeah, the headset is listed
[06:06] <Cybercat101> ubuntu
[06:06] <Cybercat101> I can't get it to install though
[06:06] <kelsin> Cybercat101: have you been trying with wine?
[06:06] <gyaresu> StormGuy: then 'asoundconf set-default-card _blah_'
[06:06] <Cybercat101> no
[06:06] <kelsin> Cybercat101: what have you been trying?
[06:06] <Cybercat101> kelsin:no what is wine?
[06:06] <Crell> jlgaddis: Is this the "JOSS" server?
[06:06] <kelsin> Cybercat101: are you just trying to run the windows program in ubuntu? That is not possible
[06:06] <Nargaroth> kelsin =(
[06:06] <Cybercat101> I have been trying the default program
[06:07] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Then re-open some app and see if that fixed it.
[06:07] <kelsin> Cybercat101: what do you mean default program?
[06:07] <Gesus> Dr_willis: in console it says 'permission denied' in gnome partition editor it says 'not mounted' under information (for all three drives)
[06:07] <kelsin> Cybercat101: linux can not run windows programs
[06:07] <jessinio> hi,i am a newer
[06:07] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: Can you boot up into linux and rejoin. That would be more helpfull.
[06:07] <Cybercat101> Kelsin:there is no emluator that can make them run
[06:08] <kelsin> Cybercat101: wine
[06:08] <gyaresu> !welcome | jessinio
[06:08] <ubotu> jessinio: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[06:08] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Nope, afraid not :(
[06:08] <r4nge> 8 * * * * /home/gerry/scripts/serverquery.sh
[06:08] <r4nge> is there something wrong with that
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Gesus,   you could just edit the fstab manually, and not use the various gui tools (im used to doing it that way)   the proper fstab entry on my system for my windows drive on /dev/hda1 is ------>  "       /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0002,user,users 0 0   "
[06:08] <jessinio> thanks
[06:08] <kelsin> Cybercat101: it's not technically an emulator, but a recreation of the window APIs, if it doesn't run in wine you'd have to resort to dual booting or running windows in vmware (or another cpu emulator)
[06:08] <Cybercat101> kelsin:can you tell me how to run wine?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  will need to use sudo to be root to edit the /etc/fstab file.
[06:08] <r4nge> the script works fine when i run it in command line
[06:09] <Gesus> so in the console i just type: /dev/hda1 -- is that correct?
[06:09] <Crell> jlgaddis: Is this the "JOSS" server?
[06:09] <kelsin> Cybercat101: no, definately no time for that, maybe someone else will help, there are also plenty of tutorials and docs on how to use wine online
[06:09] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: no, it didn't load. Is all I put in the /etc/modules 'zd1211b', or is there more?
[06:09] <StormGuy> gyaresu: And oddly enough,  Audacious isn't working anymore :(
[06:09] <Gesus> Dr_willis: so in the console i just type: /dev/hda1 -- is that correct?
[06:09] <r4nge> anyone?
[06:09] <kelsin> Cybercat101: honestly if you are very new to linux you should just dual boot until you know more, wine is not always very easy
[06:09] <ramza3> on ubuntu, I am trying to get this to work, read the bottom; http://paste.lisp.org/display/37770
[06:09] <Crell> Wine is great when it works.  Whether or not it works changes with each minor version.
[06:10] <Crell> Wine is just like that.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  No.. you edit the fstab file and  add that entry to it.
[06:10] <Cybercat101> crell:can you tell me how to work wine?
[06:10] <Cybercat101> crell:please?
[06:10] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Is the usb volume up and not muted?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Gesus,   you do realize that with the right tools . you cn set up windows to read/write to the ext2/3 partitions? :)
[06:10] <kelsin> ramza3: add a "umask=222" option
[06:10] <Crell> Cybercat101: First, draw a pentagram.  Then, sacrifice a goat.
[06:10] <ramza3> kelsin,  what is that
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  may be easier for ya to go that route.. untill you learn some linux basics.
[06:10] <Cybercat101> crell:lol
[06:11] <Gesus> Dr_willis: i'm sorry i've been using ubuntu for about 8 hours now.  i have no idea what an fstab file is or how i can edit it...
[06:11] <kelsin> ramza3: it makes the default permission on all files r-xr-xr-x
[06:11] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Yeah, it's giving me an error for Audacious now...saying that I need to configure my soundcard, select the correct output, or ensure that nothing is blocking the output
[06:11] <Cybercat101> crell:can you walk me through the steps please
[06:11] <Crell> Really, the problem is that often each program needs to be individually configured to make wine pretend to be the exact version of Windows it requires, and even then it's a crapshoot if the app will work.
[06:11] <kelsin> ramza3: so after (or before) the credentials you need ",umask=222,blah..."
[06:11] <Allen3373> thoreauputic: did you catch my post?
[06:11] <StormGuy> gyaresu: But before that, the sound was up and unmuted
[06:11] <Augmatic> mwahah i had a unix test a few days ago and had to learn about umask and such
[06:11] <ramza3> kelsin,  does the order of my options in my fstab matter?
[06:11] <Cybercat101> crell:ok
[06:12] <Gesus> Dr_willis: MY HD with WinXP on it died this morning, I won't be dual booting.  Just have this ubuntu cd.. :'(
[06:12] <Crell> Cybercat101: The steps are different for every single program, and vary widely between distros.
[06:12] <Nargaroth> gyaresu ok
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Gesus,    its a file in /etc/.   This is a clean install of ubuntu? i though it should auto mount the ntfs drives..
[06:12] <kelsin> ramza3: I don't want to say "no" and be wrong, but I've never had them matter for the things I mount (including samba)
[06:12] <Cybercat101> crell:well can you tell me how to get into wine at least
[06:12] <kelsin> Cybercat101: honestly don't fool with wine if you are not good at linux
[06:12] <Gesus> Dr_willis: I am running off LiveCD do I need to install it to the HD?
[06:12] <Crell> The Wine I'm used to is Debian, and a bit older.  The one in Ubuntu is reasonably automated, but then it works for maybe 1/5 of all programs without incident.  The rest require specific tinkering.
[06:12] <StormGuy> gyaresu: I selected "Headset" as the card
[06:12] <Crell> Cybercat101: winehq.com
[06:12] <corevette> what do i do with a .sh file?
[06:13] <kelsin> Cybercat101: it's not a easy "program" and it is still in the beta stage, if you insist on doing it look up documentation online, don't ask for a step-by-step
[06:13] <Nargaroth> gyaresu Now I have my laptop and my desktop... i am rebooting my laptop
[06:13] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[06:13] <Nargaroth> gyaresu gimme a sec
[06:13] <kelsin> corevette: you can run it with "sh file.sh" in a terminal, or make it executable with "chmod +x file.sh" then run it with "./file.sh"
[06:13] <kelsin> corevette: obviously make sure you know what this file does :)
[06:13] <gyaresu> StormGuy: asoundconf should work. Maybe a reboot (shouldn't need to) I also found this. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1954446
[06:13] <kelsin> makuseru: we gave you the programs to use like an hour ago, what else do you want?
[06:14] <Gesus> Dr_willis: Ok, I found the fstab file..
[06:14] <makuseru> you didnt give me anything
[06:14] <makuseru> you said ffmpeg
[06:14] <kelsin> mencoder, ffmpeg and transcode
[06:14] <makuseru> thats telling me nothing
[06:14] <makuseru> i read the manuals
[06:14] <makuseru> it says nothing about splitting files
[06:14] <gyaresu> makuseru: You still want to split avi's huh?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  doh. i just trashed my fstab file trying to fignre out a eay way to edit it for ya.. heh heh...
[06:14] <Gesus> (sorry) :)
[06:15] <makuseru> trying
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  heh i rember why > and >> are differnt now. :)
[06:16] <r4nge> with crontab, can i execute a command for example q=`quakestat -q4s 66.128.56.9:28004 | awk '/28004/ {print $4}'`
[06:16] <omeil> Has anyone use AcetoneISO before?
[06:16] <r4nge> and then use $q to check for NULL
[06:16] <Megatron> hey I have a question about getting compiz running
[06:16] <oggy> ihehe
[06:16] <r4nge> the command works fine on command line
[06:16] <r4nge> but in crontab it wont run
[06:16] <oggy> geez forgot I had my freebsd box in this channel
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  i forget what default ext editor is included..   so FIRST backup your esisting fstab file.   'cp /etc/fstab /home/YOURUSERNAME/fstab'
[06:17] <Nargaroth> Megatron where are you from?
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121> /* This function is used to test if the
[06:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, anyone | omeil
[06:17] <ubotu> omeil: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:17] <Megatron> I installed the packages from the repos and have beryl running but I cant get compiz to work.
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>  * a certain expression is found in a given filename
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>  * If it is this function will print the partial path
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>  * in addition to return 0, if false it will return 1.
[06:17] <Megatron> I'm from Pennsylvania, USA.
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>  */
[06:17] <StormGuy> gyaresu: I'm trying the commands without creating the text files...but no dice
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121> 
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121> int find(char expression[] , char filename[] )
[06:17] <_Krull_> Where do I download wallpaper so it auto shows in Backgrounds?
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121> {
[06:17] <Gesus> ok done
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>   char* result = strstr(filename, expression);
[06:17] <SkidMark11212121>   if ( result != NULL)
[06:18] <SkidMark11212121>   {
[06:18] <omeil> Does anyone know how to mount iso's in AcetoneISO. i click mount but nothin happens.
[06:18] <SkidMark11212121>     printf ("Found: %s", result);
[06:18] <SkidMark11212121>     return 0;
[06:18] <Megatron> I get this error "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" and then compiz saying it was unable to manage screen 0
[06:18] <Sima_Yi> !iso
[06:18] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:19] <gyaresu> StormGuy: When you do the 'asoundconf set-default-card _blah_' you are putting in the exact case sensetive name that you got from 'asoundconf list' right?
[06:19] <thantzin> how can i play mp3 songs in ubuntu?
[06:19] <kitche> Megatron you using XGL or AIGLX video driver you are using?
[06:19] <StormGuy> Yes
[06:19] <Nargaroth> gyaresu NVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[06:19] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Yes
[06:19] <Megatron> nvidia xgl I believe
[06:19] <gyaresu> !codecs | thantzin:
[06:19] <ubotu> thantzin:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:19] <StormGuy> gyaresu: It lists "SB" and "Headset"
[06:19] <Megatron> I installed the nvidia-glx drivers.
[06:20] <Megatron> how do I check?
[06:20] <thantzin> ok thanks ubotu
[06:20] <kitche> Megatron: ok but are you using XGL or aiglx those are servers
[06:20] <crimsun> StormGuy: what app are you trying to use w/ your usb headset?
[06:20] <gyaresu> Nargaroth: Right. Have you looked on the forums for any problems others might have had with that chipset?
[06:20] <kitche> Megatron: install XGL for now
[06:20] <Megatron> okay.
[06:20] <kitche> !xgl | Megatron
[06:20] <ubotu> Megatron: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:20] <theilliniguy> what is the syntax for root edit of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <EchoBinary> anyone here have experience with vmware? or can point me in the direction of a vmware channel?
[06:21] <StormGuy> crimsun: Audacious, Totem, and Swiftfox.  Audacious worked for a while, but isn't now.  I assumed I just needed to edit some things in the preference menus of the latter two programs, but I couldn't find anything that seemed to work.  Now Audacious is giving me problems too, though.
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: I was at the corner shop : ) Yes you just put the module name on its own line in /etc/modules and it should load on boot
[06:21] <kitche> theilliniguy: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want to use a gui editor
[06:21] <ray_> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <ray_> oh
[06:21] <kelsin> makuseru: man transcode is showing me the -c option allows you to specifiy what frames to use, with mencoder man mencoder is showing me that -ss and -endpos can set start and end times, and with ffmpeg man ffmpeg shows me that -ss is the start and -t duration lets you set duration
[06:21] <StormGuy> crimsun: I know they have to be run separately
[06:21] <Madpilot> theilliniguy, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <EchoBinary> sudo vi !!!!
[06:22] <kelsin> makuseru: reading man pages and searching with "/" is not really that hard
[06:22] <theilliniguy> thx u2
[06:22] <Megatron> okay I already have the xgl server installed.
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Allen3373: if that isn't working I'm out of ideas - but you can always make a script to do sudo modprobe <modulename> I guess, and put it in say /etc/rc.local
[06:22] <x2mjokada> !usplash
[06:22] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:22] <_Krull_> Can someone tell me where to put my jpg file for wallpaper?
[06:23] <ray_> if I hear crackly sound from my speakers no matter what alsamixer is set at, does that mean that I have bad mp3 codecs, or just poor soundcard support?
[06:23] <Crell> ray_: Or bad speakers/wires.
[06:23] <StormGuy> crimsun: I closed all of the programs I have that produce sound, but Audacious is still telling me that either my card is configured incorrectly, or that my output is being blocked by another program.
[06:23] <EchoBinary> or bad ears
[06:23] <ray_> it works well when I boot into windows...
[06:23] <kelsin> _Krull_: if you'res using ubuntu (not kbuntu or xbuntu) you can put it anywhere, the right click your desktop, click change background then click "add Wallpaper" and browse to it
[06:23] <thoreauputic> _Krull_: you can put it anywhere - just navigate to it from the wallpaper change dialog to make it your wallpaper
[06:23] <Madpilot> _Krull_, anywhere. Just use the "Load" button in the wallpaper dialogue
[06:24] <EchoBinary> I had static in my ears once
[06:24] <_Krull_> ray, or cellphone microwave emitions
[06:24] <nine09> stinky cheese man
[06:24] <EchoBinary> ..  but then I took the cellophane out
[06:24] <oritemis> guys, good night
[06:24] <oritemis> there a howto to install webcam?
[06:24] <Gesus> can you copy text from the desktop and paste it into the console command line?
[06:24] <zero88> help me help me, i cant get ubuntu to start on my desktop dell dimension 3000, i can only get it to work in text mode.i cant startx. can anyone tell me why or how to fix it?
[06:24] <EchoBinary> zero88: video card driver?
[06:25] <kelsin> !webcam | oritemis
[06:25] <ubotu> oritemis: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:25] <ray_> but I know it either has to be codecs or sound card support because it sound better in windows
[06:25] <_Krull_> I get buzzing from my speakers
[06:25] <StormGuy> crimsun: If I try to run a sound test, I get this message "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available."
[06:25] <EchoBinary> ray: my guess is the sound card driver
[06:25] <oritemis> kelsin: thanks
[06:25] <kelsin> zero88: are you getting any errors when you startx?
[06:25] <StormGuy> gyaresu: If I try to run a sound test, I get this message "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available."
[06:25] <zero88> echobinary its a nvidea
[06:25] <zero88> kelsin yes i am
[06:25] <ray_> ok thanks... ya it's not that bad so I'll live
[06:25] <faker> holas nesesito una ayuda con el sonido
[06:25] <faker> :S
[06:26] <kelsin> zero88: if it's more then one line, pastebin it for us
[06:26] <kelsin> !pastebin > zero88
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  select, middle click.. or try right click/paste
[06:26] <FunnyLookinHat> !espanol | fak
[06:26] <ubotu> fak: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:26] <FunnyLookinHat> woops.
[06:26] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Have you got any errors in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages ?
[06:26] <zero88> kelsin i cant, im on the desktop now using a livecd of backtrack
[06:26] <Gesus> Dr_willis: So what do I need to put into that fstab thing to make it mount my ntfs drives?
[06:26] <zero88> SABAYON SUCKS!
[06:27] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Doesn't look like it.  Most of them look relevant to my eth0
[06:27] <omeil> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop?
[06:27] <kelsin> zero88: without errors it's REALLY hard to debug dude, do you have any idea what it was saying?
[06:27] <Madpilot> omeil, use 'kubuntu-desktop' to get KDE, if you really must </Gnome fan> ;)
[06:27] <gyaresu> StormGuy: try restarting alsa. 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart'
[06:27] <omeil> lol :D
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Gesus,   you could just edit the fstab manually, and not use the various gui tools (im used to doing it that way)   the proper fstab entry on my system for my windows drive on /dev/hda1 is ------>  "       /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0002,user,users 0 0   "
[06:28] <crimsun> gyaresu: that only (re)stores mixer levels. It doesn't do what you think it does.
[06:28] <omeil> Madpilot: just giving it a test run :D
[06:28] <Matic`Makovec> Err...hi. Where do I access screensaver settings? :o
[06:28] <zero88> kelsin ya ill boot up and il write it down, brb
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Gesus,       /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0002,user,users 0 0
[06:28] <crimsun> StormGuy: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:28] <gyaresu> crimsun: mmm. At this point I don't know why seting the default card isn't being picked up by the other apps.
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: fluxbox ftw! *g*
[06:28] <omeil> screw downloading 256mb lol ill stick with gnome
[06:28] <skinnyuser> matic: system -> prefs -> screen saver
[06:28] <nick01> I ordered 2 years ago some ubuntu cds i never got- do u think I should change the city name from enlglish to the local name ?
[06:28] <ToddEDM> hello men, i need to know how to unpack rar files
[06:28] <StormGuy> gyaresu: sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[06:28] <Gesus> Dr_willis: ok so i just put that into the fstab file.  do i need to replace user.users with anything?
[06:29] <Matic`Makovec> Thank you skinnyuser
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !unrar
[06:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:29] <EchoBinary> is fluxbox smaller than xfce?
[06:29] <skinnyuser> matic: sure thing
[06:29] <thoreauputic> EchoBinary: yes
[06:29] <omeil> !iso
[06:29] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  nope those are fstab options that let the 'users' access the drive
[06:29] <EchoBinary> is fluxbox easy to install?
[06:29] <kelsin> EchoBinary: fluxbox is JUST a windows manage not a desktop, so yes for many reasons
[06:29] <crimsun> gyaresu: (re)setting the default alsa device only affects alsa-aware apps. Any app that uses the oss api will still use /dev/dsp*, which doesn't change across asoundconf *set* commands.
[06:29] <omeil> err soz lol forgot :)
[06:29] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Yeah sorry. There's only alsa-utils.
[06:29] <kelsin> EchoBinary: "sudo aptitude install fluxbox"
[06:29] <Dr_willis> EchoBinary,  trivial easy.
[06:29] <StormGuy> crimsun "COMMAND    PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[06:29] <StormGuy> esd       4478 opus  mem    CHR  116,4      7569 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[06:29] <StormGuy> esd       4478 opus   25u   CHR  116,4      7569 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[06:29] <StormGuy> mixer_app 4680 opus   17u   CHR  116,9      7723 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:29] <StormGuy> "
[06:29] <ToddEDM> !info unrar-free
[06:29] <StormGuy> Whoops, sorry about that
[06:29] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:29] <Gesus> Dr_willis: ok. and will i need to restart or anything after i do that?  does it matter that i'm running from a livecd and not a hd install of ubuntu?
[06:29] <crimsun> StormGuy: stop esound.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  NOW you tell me about the livecd.. :)
[06:30] <gyaresu> crimsun: Is this probable a gnome gstreamer thang?
[06:30] <StormGuy> crimsun: esd?
[06:30] <gyaresu> *probably
[06:30] <blanky> !usplash
[06:30] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:30] <StormGuy> crimsun: or the mixer app
[06:30] <skinnyuser> i just had the left channel of my sound cut out, does anyone know if it might be a software/config problem? i'd hate to have to take it into the shop unless i needed to.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  so once you mount the ntfs drives what are you going to do with them ? you dont have linux installed at all? you are just accessng themachne with a livecd?
[06:30] <Gesus> Dr_willis: ... I thought i mentioned that P
[06:30] <thantzin> sorry ubotu i can't solve my problem can u sugguest me anything about to play mp3 songs in ubuntu i'm just start to use ubuntu
[06:30] <kelsin> !bot | thantzin
[06:30] <ubotu> thantzin: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:30] <thoreauputic> !mp3 | thantzin
[06:30] <ubotu> thantzin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <crimsun> gyaresu: / StormGuy: System> Preferences> Sound   ...
[06:31] <Gesus> Dr_willis: Well, once I mount the drives (there are three) I was going to transfer all the data from one to the other two and then format that one drive with the appropriate file system (ex3 or whatever) and then install ubuntu onto that drive.
[06:31] <thantzin> !bot
[06:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:32] <thantzin> !mp3
[06:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:32] <kelsin> Gesus: so you need write permission, can you not do this in windows?
[06:32] <StormGuy> crimsun: This is a little odd...my terminal and my menu windows are blank and crash when I open them now
[06:32] <kelsin> Gesus: esp with a large amount of information that isn't backed up I wouldn't do that with linux ntfs write drivers
[06:32] <Gesus> kelsin: My windows install was on a fourth HD which died this morning.
[06:32] <StormGuy> crimsun: This has happened to me before, but I thought it had stopped indefinitely...
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  there are some live cd's that have ntfs writing allready built into them.. i just cant rember which ones...
[06:32] <gyaresu> !botabuse | thantzin
[06:32] <ubotu> thantzin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  you only have the 1 machine?
[06:33] <StormGuy> crimsun: I can still go into the ctrl+alt+f1 console, though
[06:33] <ScreaminIke> uhm. 2 things. 1) how do i enable ntfs support? 2) where do i get latest builds for ubuntu studio/ubuntu feisty?
[06:33] <kelsin> Gesus: yeah the ubunt live cd isn't the best for actual work, I would look into some of the others like Dr_willis said :)
[06:33] <Lord_Maynoth> doesn anyone know what the default kde directory is on ubuntu
[06:33] <Flannel> !ntfs | ScreaminIke
[06:33] <ubotu> ScreaminIke: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:33] <kelsin> ScreaminIke: look int #ubuntu+1 channel for fiesty help
[06:33] <StormGuy> crimsun: For some reason, this laptop really hates Ubuntu
[06:33] <ScreaminIke> !ntfs-3g
[06:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:33] <Flannel> Lord_Maynoth: what do you mean?
[06:33] <gyaresu> !kubuntu | Lord_Maynoth
[06:33] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:33] <Gesus> Dr_willis: Yep just one machine.  Running Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD.  Am I doomed?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> the knoppix live cd  has ntfs3g support..
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  Not really.. but you need to learn some linux.. and it would be MUCH easier if you could track down some other live cd.
[06:34] <kelsin> Gesus: no just look for better live cd,s like knoppix, they will have more tools to help you and probably mount your partitions automattically
[06:34] <Lord_Maynoth> I am compiling a program and I got it to work but it said it needed to be installed in the default kde directory for the plug-ins to work
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Gesus, http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix51-en.html  looks very nice.
[06:34] <ScreaminIke> i like slax.
[06:34] <kelsin> Lord_Maynoth: does the ./configure, make, make install process not do that automatically?
[06:34] <ScreaminIke> Gesus: slax.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  im not even sure how you go about installing stuff to the ubuntu live cd. I rarely use it.. its rather.. minimal
[06:35] <gyaresu> Lord_Maynoth: Did you just do 'make' and now you are trying to run it from the same dir that you compiled it in?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> slax is nice.. but not sure what ones come ith ntfs3g
[06:35] <Lord_Maynoth> no I can get it to run fine
[06:35] <Gesus> Dr_willis: Ok. So I should run the knoppix live cd.  Can I still install ubuntu after that or will I need to run knoppix?  I liked the whole ubuntu holding hands philosophy thing.
[06:36] <gyaresu> So did you 'sudo make install' ?
[06:36] <Lord_Maynoth> its just I need to ./compile --prefix=  into the default kde directory for it to work with the plugins
[06:36] <Flannel> Gesus: Knoppix is *only* a liveCD, you can't "Install" it
[06:36] <kelsin> Gesus: no you definately can run ubuntu, but the ubuntu live cd has a different purpose then knoppix and other live cd's
[06:36] <StormGuy> crimsun: / gyaresu: Sorry, I know it's annoying helping the guy who suddenly develops 2 or 3 problems for every solution :(
[06:36] <Lord_Maynoth> and I don't know what the default directory for kde is
[06:36] <tehquickness> Has any had problems with gnome-panel crashing?
[06:36] <gyaresu> Lord_Maynoth: Have you seen checkinstall ?
[06:36] <omeil> Dr_willis: did they insert ntfs-3g with the installation package?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Gesus,  they are just live cd's i got a stack of 100 of them. :)
[06:36] <gkellycs> can someone help me with beryl?
[06:36] <kelsin> Gesus: use knoppix to help you transfer files, THEN install ubuntu once you get that done
[06:36] <Chopperman> drat
[06:36] <Lord_Maynoth> checkinstall?
[06:36] <SJ2000> I'm trying to get Gnome to work on LiveCD but the monitor goes blank after splash screen, intro music still plays though. I've tried changing kernal params to vga=791 or vga=792 but no avail. If I edit the xorg.conf how do I restart GUI (properly) if it's livedisc?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Flannel: actually you can install Knoppix - it just isn't recommended
[06:36] <Dr_willis> omeil,  knoppix site mentions ntfs3g now.. not tried it yet.
[06:36] <gkellycs> can someone help me with beryl?
[06:37] <gkellycs> can someone help me with beryl?
[06:37] <gyaresu> !checkinstall | Lord_Maynoth
[06:37] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:37] <Flannel> thoreauputic: For the purposes of this conversation..
[06:37] <kelsin> gkellycs: #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl
[06:37] <Dr_willis> omeil,   Updated ntfs-3g (02.01.2007) (writing speed improvements)
[06:37] <omeil> Dr_willis: sounds interesting :)
[06:37] <tehquickness> Has anyone had problems with gnome-panel continuously crashing?
[06:37] <omeil> its fast enough anyways :)
[06:37] <gkellycs> can someone help me with beryl? It works, except i shut of something that i need to turn back on.
[06:37] <l2s> seems ubuntu and dell dont play nice together
[06:37] <gkellycs> can someone help me with beryl? It works, except i shut of something that i need to turn back on.
[06:37] <kelsin> !repeat gkellycs
[06:37] <burnsauce> Howdy, if I install ubuntu as dualboot with a windows installation that already has dualboot between Win98 & XP, will I still be able to boot into 98 & XP?
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat gkellycs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <kelsin> !repeat | gkellycs
[06:37] <ubotu> gkellycs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:37] <EchoBinary> tehquickness: you sure its not windows?
[06:37] <omeil> tehquickness: crashing u mean freezing?
[06:37] <Gesus> kelsin: ok sweet. So, Step 1. Run Knoppix live CD, t/f files and format one HD to ex3.  Step 2. Run Ubuntu install on that HD.  Step 3. Install ntfs-3g and then I can read/write my files on those other two ntfs drives.. Is that right?
[06:37] <kelsin> Gesus: correct
[06:38] <anonymeeee> how do I know what kind of video card I have?
[06:38] <tehquickness> Well, it crashes then the Bug Reporter pops up then it trys to restart and then it crashes again.
[06:38] <Gesus> kelsin: Ok sweet. See you in a few hours.  Thanks for your help!
[06:38] <SJ2000> gnome-panel used to crash on me every time WINE application tried to change resolution
[06:38] <ray_> gkellycs: what did you shut off?
[06:38] <Gesus> Dr_willis: Thanks for your help, see you in a bit. Hopefully.
[06:38] <kelsin> Gesus: the ubuntu live cd is meant to show off ubuntu quickly, not really "doing" stuff... if that makes sense, knoppix (and others) are more fully featured to let you do things, like you need to do
[06:38] <gkellycs> the cube
[06:38] <zero88> kelsin the error is ()ww) I810: no matching device section for instance (busid pci:0:2:0) found     (ee) no devices detected fatal server error: no screens found
[06:38] <gyaresu> anonymeeee: Run 'lspci' from a terminal and look for the card device.
[06:38] <gkellycs> the cube wont spin anymore, i am stuck to one desktop
[06:38] <omeil> tehquickness: hmm i haven't encountered that before..mine just froze a couple of times.
[06:38] <kelsin> !beryl | gkellycs
[06:38] <ubotu> gkellycs: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:38] <tehquickness> The crashing, restarting, and bug reporting forms this continuous loop.
[06:38] <thoreauputic> anonymeeee: try  lspci |grep VGA
[06:38] <linuxor> Please, How to make swf presentation of my screen ?
[06:39] <kelsin> zero88: you need to install the i810 driver
[06:39] <ray_> gkcellycs: do you know how to get to beryl settings manager?
[06:39] <gkellycs> ya
[06:39] <gkellycs> i had it configured and everything
[06:39] <nick01> anybody else here ordered cds and still hasn't received them 2 years later ?
[06:39] <zero88> ok,so whyle in text mode with ubuntu how owuld i do that?
[06:39] <kelsin> gkellycs: please goto the #ubuntu-effects channel for beryl support
[06:39] <gkellycs> k
[06:39] <thoreauputic> nick01: now that is real snail mail ...
[06:39] <kidbuntu> is there a downloadable installer of nvidia-glx?
[06:40] <zero88> kelsin ok,so whyle in text mode with ubuntu how owuld i do that?
[06:40] <mneptok> kidbuntu: use the repos
[06:40] <pavs> anyone installed osx with ubuntu on a amd64?
[06:40] <nick01> thoreauputic: I ask cause I just ordered 6.06 and wondering if it'll have the same fait
[06:40] <SJ2000> How do I edit xorg.conf and restart GUI properly without restart ubuntu (Since I'm current LiveDisc)
[06:40] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: thank you!
[06:40] <kelsin> kidbuntu: all ubuntu pacakges are installed/downloaded automattically
[06:40] <ray_> The repos didn't work for me for nvidia drivers
[06:40] <thoreauputic> nick01: usually takes 4-6 weeks
[06:40] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:40] <nick01> thoreauputic: :|
[06:40] <nick125_lappy> Hrm..I'm having an issue starting xorg on this new install of 6.10...
[06:40] <kelsin> zero88: one sec
[06:40] <StormGuy> gyaresu: / crimsun: On the bright side, Audacious worked after I unplugged/replugged in my headset
[06:41] <ray_> I had to download an installer from nvidia... proprietary i think...
[06:41] <omeil> nick123_lappy: wats the problem?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> nick01: you can't complain - it doesn't cost anything :)
[06:41] <zero88> kelsin k sorry didnt mean to post twice
[06:41] <nick125_lappy> It has an error about AIGLX and screen 0 not being DRI capable..
[06:41] <kelsin> zero88: from the console "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-i810"
[06:41] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: how do I restart it?
[06:41] <rbil> SJ2000: you should be able to make changes to xorg.conf and just run startx to start the gui. Or you could do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:41] <kelsin> zero88: oh no problem, just telling you one sec while I look up the package
[06:41] <SJ2000> rbil: ive done that but still nothing
[06:41] <omeil> and thats weird :D
[06:41] <SJ2000> still as blank as ever
[06:42] <zero88> kelsin ok thanks, so after i do that in text mode i will be able to startx?
[06:42] <gyaresu> StormGuy: shzam!
[06:42] <nick01> thoreauputic: I was considering to put the name of the place in romanian but then maybe the senders wouldn';t know where that is :|
[06:42] <StormGuy> gyaresu: :)
[06:42] <omeil> SJ2000: what are u actually trying to do?
[06:42] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Don't s'pose that made the others use the usb device?
[06:42] <rbil> SJ2000:  have u tried .... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:42] <Lord_Maynoth> ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR  automatically pick my default kde directory for me?
[06:42] <kelsin> zero88: no garuntees, it sounds like from your error message that the i810 driver was not installed, that command will install it, so let's hope
[06:42] <thoreauputic> nick01: do you anyone who can download it for you and burn some CDs ?
[06:43] <gyaresu> anonymeeee: Sorry? How do you restart what?
[06:43] <kelsin> zero88: also if you're up for fun you can install irssi and chat from your linux console
[06:43] <anonymeeee> suddenly my screen resolution has changed itself to 640x480 and doesn't have an option to change it...won't let me change it....
[06:43] <kidbuntu> how do you delete a file using the terminal. what command do you use?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: rm
[06:43] <burnsauce> if a dualboot already exists between XP & 98, and I install ubuntu as dualboot, will it install with BOTH XP & 98 as secondary boot options?
[06:43] <SJ2000> I can't see anything after ubuntu splash screen, it goes blank. I've tried changing VGA params on boot and edit xconf (inc restart gdm) but nothing.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> !bash
[06:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:43] <nick01> thoreauputic: i want them to give to people I have fast connection myself :)
[06:43] <zero88> kelsin ok thanks i will give it try ...Ok kool that will be alot easier thanks
[06:43] <thoreauputic> nick01: ah, i see :)
[06:43] <gyaresu> kelsin: Tell him about irssi/screen and ssh'ing into you machine :)
[06:43] <PCGenie_> hi again, i am using gnome on my dappy desktop, what options do i have for rss viewing?
[06:43] <omeil> SJ2000: Have u tried changing the xorg.conf driver settings to "vesa"
[06:44] <SJ2000> yes
[06:44] <rbil> SJ2000: what graphic card are u using?
[06:44] <SJ2000> Nvidia GeForce 7600GT
[06:44] <thoreauputic> nick01: maybe contact the Romanian loco for Ubuntu
[06:44] <ramza3> kelsin, back again:  now I have this and still doesnt give me the permissions I want, only root can do anything "auto,rw,users,credentials=/etc/samba/indiasamba.cred,umask=222"
[06:44] <gyaresu> !prefix |anonymeeee
[06:44] <ubotu> anonymeeee: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[06:44] <StormGuy> gyaresu: It looks like most of my programs are now crashing as soon as I load them, so I'm not sure :(
[06:44] <gyaresu> !fixres | anonymeeee
[06:44] <ubotu> anonymeeee: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:44] <kelsin> zero88: if that doesn't work you can etc your xorg.conf and switch "i810" to "vesa" just like omeil is recomending
[06:44] <omeil> SJ2000:so your wrote "vesa" not "VESA"?
[06:44] <gyaresu> StormGuy: blah!
[06:44] <StormGuy> gyaresu: This has happened to me before...but I thought the issue mysteriously disappeared
[06:44] <SJ2000> yes, small letters
[06:44] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: example i want to delete the file that i accidentaly saved inside the folder 'apt' the filename is ubuntu list. I was editing the sources.list
[06:44] <rbil> SJ2000: OK, what driver does it show being used in xorg.conf?
[06:44] <kelsin> ramza3: are the permissions for the mount point still rwx------?
[06:44] <nick01> thoreauputic: the romanian what ?
[06:44] <gyaresu> StormGuy: Stupid computers ;)
[06:45] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: I need to fix my screen resolution...it's stuck at 640x480.  what do you suggest I do?
[06:45] <gyaresu> !fixres | anonymeeee
[06:45] <ubotu> anonymeeee: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:45] <ramza3> ramza3,  yep; I am unmounting and then doing "mount -a"
[06:45] <omeil> SJ2000: thats what usually fixes the problem u are having...i always have the same problem as u before i install ubuntu.
[06:45] <thoreauputic> nick01: the localisation team for Romania?
[06:45] <StormGuy> gyaresu: All high and mighty...with...with their circuitry and so forth...
[06:45] <nick01> thoreauputic: lets see if there's a #ubuntu-ro
[06:45] <kelsin> !ro
[06:45] <omeil> SJ2000: have u tried editing the driver manually not through reconfigure etc...?
[06:45] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[06:46] <SJ2000> yes, didn't work either
[06:46] <nick01> thoreauputic: hmm there is rather empty though especially this early in the morning
[06:46] <SJ2000> all it did was make it worse
[06:46] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: you need sudo rm if the file is outside your $HOME directory
[06:46] <rbil> SJ2000: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[06:46] <omeil> SJ2000: well its obvious the problem is in the xorg.conf. there has to be another way around it.
[06:46] <tehquickness> well I found an answer to the problem
[06:46] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: is it like this $ sudo rm /etc/apt/ubuntulist.txt
[06:47] <nick125_lappy> omeil: It's using the vesa drivers, and, I have no idea why its attempting to do AIGLX
[06:47] <StormGuy> gyaresu: Oh, well.  At least I have music?
[06:47] <StormGuy> gyaresu: / crimsun: Thanks for all your help
[06:47] <Madpilot> kidbuntu, yes, but be careful with 'sudo rm' - it's a good way to break your Ubuntu...
[06:47] <gyaresu> StormGuy: There's always a way...
[06:47] <tehquickness> Aparently there is some problem with .revently-used.xbel so as long as you do this command:
[06:47] <tehquickness> # rm -rf .recently-used.xbel
[06:47] <tehquickness> The problem will be solved
[06:47] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: assuming that is the path to the file, yes
[06:47] <SJ2000> I've double checked xorg.conf it's "vesa"
[06:48] <SJ2000> Also as well I restarted gdm but now when I go back to the GUI there is just an empty console
[06:48] <SJ2000> not a shell just console
[06:48] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: the filename contains a white space "Ubuntu sources.list" should I type it that way?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> nick01: look here maybe - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[06:48] <rbil> SJ2000: have u tried "nv" ?
[06:48] <ledbettj> SJ2000: I've found that sometimes you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop once or twice before trying to start it again
[06:48] <SJ2000> that is what is was by default
[06:48] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: no - tab-complete it
[06:48] <kelsin> kidbuntu: yeah with quotes or Ubuntu\ sources.list
[06:49] <nick01> thoreauputic: looking
[06:49] <omeil> nick125_lappy: have u tried, configuring the xorg.conf by typing sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf maybe its not saving because u don't have root access
[06:49] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: be careful that you are actually deleting the file you mean to delete!
[06:49] <SJ2000> I'm going to restart LiveDisc and try it agian
[06:49] <rbil> SJ2000: normally there shouldn't be a prob with graphic cards that have oss drivers included in LiveCD. Is it possible the LiveCD itself is bad?
[06:50] <SJ2000> md5 is fine
[06:50] <nick125_lappy> omeil: I've gone though the xorg configuration, and I don't see anything that would cause any issues...
[06:50] <SJ2000> passed verify
[06:50] <b0rted> hi there
[06:50] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: whew. thanks. I got it deleted
[06:50] <rbil> SJ2000: desktop or laptop box?
[06:50] <SJ2000> desktop 64bit
[06:50] <b0rted> any1 know about "hotplug system"?
[06:50] <r4nge> whats command to resync clock
[06:50] <standingstill> anyone feel like helping me get my wireless card working?
[06:51] <Madpilot> ubotu, anyone | standingstill
[06:51] <ubotu> standingstill: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:51] <rbil> SJ2000: and the ubuntu version ... 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: heh - I doubt that it was doing any harm actually ( it would be ignored - doesn't mean anything to the system)
[06:51] <standingstill> i've been beating my head against a wall with this for weeks
[06:51] <omeil> nick125_lappy: im not sure what to do from here.
[06:51] <SJ2000> not sure I downloaded the i386 version
[06:51] <ledbettj> r4nge: if you right click on the time in the gnome panel, you can choose to "adjust time and date" and from there you can synchronize with an NTP server.
[06:51] <rbil> SJ2000: good
[06:51] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: ah ok. thanks anyway
[06:51] <standingstill> i'm trying to use ndisgtk and ndiswrapper
[06:51] <r4nge> ledbettj: command line
[06:51] <standingstill> i finally got the two .inf files "i think i need"
[06:52] <r4nge> i dont have a gui installed
[06:52] <ledbettj> r4nge: sorry, not sure about that one; probably something with ntp in it :)
[06:52] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: i guess you still learnt a couple of tricks in the process :)
[06:52] <standingstill> bcmwl5.inf
[06:52] <blanky> !fluxbox
[06:52] <r4nge> k
[06:52] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:52] <b0rted> Madpilot: it is supposed to exist the dir: /lib/hotplug/firmware?
[06:52] <x2mjokada> hey guys, are there icons located anywhere else besides in /usr/share/pixmaps?
[06:52] <SJ2000> Kind of funny, I can get the ubuntu server Gnome working (on another machine of course) but can't get it working on desktop :P
[06:52] <nick125_lappy> omeil: I think the X server core dumping is bad..............
[06:52] <ledbettj> r4nge: try ntpdate
[06:52] <standingstill> and bcmwl5a.inf
[06:52] <Madpilot> b0rted, no idea, actually
[06:52] <ardchoille> x2mjokada: /usr/share/icons
[06:52] <crimsun> b0rted: as of edgy, no.
[06:52] <kelsin> r4nge: there's probably a /etc/init.d/ script for ntp, so something like "/etc/init.d/ntp restart" maybe?
[06:52] <x2mjokada> ardchoille, thanks
[06:52] <omeil> nick125_lappy: your booting from the live cd right?
[06:52] <crimsun> b0rted: we don't use hotplug as of dapper (6.06), in fact.
[06:52] <ramza3> kelsin, you got any more info for me
[06:52] <standingstill> can anyone help me figure out the steps involved in getting these working
[06:53] <anonymeeee> giesen: thanks for the help with the screen res
[06:53] <SJ2000> rbil: Splash screen just visually corrupted itself, progress bar has copied it's borders all over the place
[06:53] <nick125_lappy> omeil: this is a fresh install
[06:53] <b0rted> crimsun:  so i cant use that feature?
[06:53] <ledbettj> standingstill:  are you setting up a driver with ndiswrapper?
[06:53] <kelsin> ramza3: sorry didn't see a response to me asking if the permissions were still rwx------
[06:53] <r4nge> got it, ntpdate :)
[06:53] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: in fact yes.... I was just starting to learn ubuntu. Is there a tutorial where i can learn the basic and advance commands they use in the terminal?
[06:53] <ramza3> kelsin,  yes and with user=1003 and group=1003
[06:53] <anonymeeee> !screenres
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <crimsun> b0rted: what feature?
[06:53] <rbil> SJ2000: sounds like a hardware prob. Have u run memtest on that box?
[06:53] <ardchoille> !commands
[06:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:54] <standingstill> thats what i'm trying to do
[06:54] <b0rted> hotplug system crimsun
[06:54] <kidbuntu> thoreauputic: and its the Linux Operating System that i've used
[06:54] <gyaresu> crimsun: Do you know the hotplug relacement?
[06:54] <SJ2000> rbil: yes memtest passes, plus, other linux distros work on it.
[06:54] <ardchoille> kidbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:54] <gyaresu> crimsun: just udev?
[06:54] <crimsun> b0rted: / gyaresu: udev contains its functionality.
[06:54] <ledbettj> standingstill:  what have you got so far?
[06:54] <gyaresu> crimsun: cheers.
[06:54] <kidbuntu> ardchoille: thanks
[06:54] <standingstill> i have a linksys wireless card
[06:54] <standingstill> and trying to get it working
[06:54] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu:  try http://tuxfiles.org
[06:54] <omeil> nick125_lappy: i haven't encountered anything like this before. :( soz can't help any further
[06:55] <tovella> SJ2000: i was just looking at this site that might be of some help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188375
[06:55] <kelsin> ramza3: honestly that stumps me since umask should solve it, try umask=2222 or umask=0002 also, I could be wrong about only needing 222
[06:55] <yarou> Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[06:55] <rbil> SJ2000: too strange. Then I have no idea what the prob could be.
[06:55] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: also search the wiki etc
[06:55] <yarou> Beryl + AIGLX
[06:55] <Lord_Maynoth> hello the guys in the kde channel said that /usr is the default kde directory for (k)ubuntu can anyone verify this?  Thanks in advance
[06:55] <thoreauputic> !docs | kidbuntu
[06:55] <ubotu> kidbuntu: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:55] <b0rted> well, im told to put some files in /lib/hotplug/firmware, which doesnt exist, and the how-to is for edgy and its up to date...
[06:55] <nick125_lappy> omeil: I haven't had xorg core dump before either..
[06:55] <SJ2000> rbil: yeah ive checked that post too
[06:55] <b0rted> crimsun: then where should i put the file?
[06:55] <ledbettj> standingstill:  does it show up in  network settings as wlan0 or wmaster0 or anything?
[06:55] <ardchoille> kidbuntu: You asked fo rit, lol
[06:55] <gyaresu> Lord_Maynoth: Did you have a look at checkinstall?
[06:55] <ramza3> kelsin,  nope, no dice
[06:55] <yarou> glXBindTexImageEXT is missing
[06:56] <crimsun> b0rted: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000028.html
[06:56] <kelsin> ramza3: then I would try removing the rw, the users, or the auto parts of it one by one as well to see if one of them is overwriting the umask
[06:56] <SJ2000> rbil: nano is playing up, it there some other way to change "nv" to "vesa" ?
[06:56] <b0rted> crimsun:  im on edgy
[06:57] <crimsun> b0rted: it's relevant for every Ubuntu release including Dapper and afterward.
[06:57] <rbil> SJ2000: unfortunately not without some kinda text editor
[06:57] <kidbuntu> ardchoille: it's a very big thanks to you all. How i wish I could learn these all
[06:57] <kelsin> yarou: effects help is in #ubuntu-effects
[06:57] <b0rted> crimsun: ok thanks
[06:57] <SJ2000> rbil: Now I get that stupid out of range error on my monitor
[06:58] <rbil> SJ2000: maybe with sed, but I wouldn't know how to do that right off the top of my head
[06:58] <ScreaminIke> where can i find iso's for ubuntustudio/ ubuntu 7.04?
[06:58] <kelsin> SJ2000: sudo sed -e 's/nv/vesa/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:58] <Lord_Maynoth> gyaresu not yet because i have to set the prefix on the ./configure to the default kde directory and I am not 100% sure where that is. :c
[06:58] <kelsin> SJ2000: I think, double check that maybe or run it on a test file with just "nv" in it :)
[06:58] <NZheretic> So does anyone here have recent experience of getting internal (soft or DSP) modems to work under Ubuntu?
[06:58] <tovella> SJ2000: this machine with the NVIDIA driver problem works well the the liveCD?
[06:58] <rbil> kelsin, thanks, there it is :-)
[06:58] <ramza3> kelsin, is mount -a supposed to pick up what is my fstab
[06:58] <omeil> Anyone know what i need to upgrade Makefile:31: *** You'll need sources for your (at least 2.6.16) kernel. im just not sure what to select from the kernel list.
[06:58] <kelsin> ramza3: yes
[06:59] <rbil> tovella: no, he's having this prob with the LIveCD
[06:59] <SJ2000> gdm failed to start
[06:59] <ledbettj> omeil: what is the output form uname -r?
[06:59] <gyaresu> Lord_Maynoth: Sorry can't help.
[06:59] <tovella> OK
[06:59] <ledbettj> *from 'uname -r'
[06:59] <standingstill> in network settings i have "wireless connection" , "wired connection" , and "modem connetion"
[06:59] <thoreauputic> omeil: you probably just nedd  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  if you are compiling
[06:59] <thoreauputic> *need
[06:59] <standingstill> no wlan
[07:00] <kelsin> shredder: rbil need sed -ei blah... (the i makes it actually edit the file instead of just print the result)
[07:00] <omeil> 2.6.17-10-386
[07:00] <omeil> thats it
[07:00] <gyaresu> standingstill: wlan is your 'wireless connection"
[07:00] <chip0wa> hey everyone... just installed ubuntu... this rocks :)
[07:00] <SJ2000> is there some way I redo xorg.conf on livecd before gui boots up?
[07:00] <ledbettj> standingstill:  ok, if you can't configure that wireless connection to work, that means that first we need to figure out what driver is installed (thats not working) and unload it...
[07:00] <ScreaminIke> gj, chip0wa
[07:01] <ramza3> kelsin, I have tabs in my fstab file, does that matter
[07:01] <omeil> SJ2000: You can pause the gui while booting
[07:01] <SJ2000> haha!!! got it
[07:01] <standingstill> ok...i have two drivers loaded "bcmwl5.inf" and "bcmwl5a.inf"
[07:01] <SJ2000> ctrl-alt backspace
[07:01] <SJ2000> in gui
[07:01] <ledbettj> standingstill: loaded already using ndiswrapper?
[07:01] <madsen> I'm in a bit of a pickle here - should I install amd64 or i386 on my MacBook? (I know both will run, but which will be the smarter to install?)
[07:01] <gyaresu> madsen: 32bit version.
[07:01] <Flannel> madsen: you probably want the 32
[07:01] <kelsin> i386 will probably give you many less headaches
[07:02] <SJ2000> What are the downsides of using vesa to the nv driver? (I could never get the proper nv driver working on other ubuntu installs)
[07:02] <standingstill> i think i installed them using ndisgtk
[07:02] <madsen> gyaresu, Flannel, kelsin: Thanks a bunch! I'll go with the 32 bit version. :)
[07:02] <thoreauputic> SJ2000: vesa is basic and slow
[07:02] <standingstill> and when i ndiswrapper -l ....it shows both drivers installed
[07:02] <anonymeeee> !commands
[07:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:02] <rbil> SJ2000: once u got an installed system, you should probably look at install the proprietary driver from nvidia
[07:03] <owner__> i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to set everything up
[07:03] <owner__> i made a test.php file and put it in /var/www when i put http://localhost/test.php   it will not load the page.
[07:03] <gyaresu> madsen: good luck.
[07:03] <ledbettj> standingstill: but it doesn't say "hardware attached?"
[07:03] <omeil> SJ2000: vesa is basically software, u use the CPU and the Memory as your graphical outputs.
[07:03] <ledbettj> er, "hardware present"
[07:03] <owner__> can some1 help\
[07:03] <rbil> SJ2000: look at the envy script for an easy way to do that
[07:03] <SJ2000> rbil: could you give me a link to some more information?
[07:03] <kelsin> owner__: what happens instead? does it load the page fine, but doesn't run php or does it not find the page at all?
[07:03] <standingstill> yes, it says "hardware present"
[07:03] <rbil> !envy | SJ2000
[07:03] <ubotu> SJ2000: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:03] <madsen> gyaresu: Thanks. I think I'll go with 7.04, even though it's not stable. (I've been running Debian for 7 years, I think I can handle a little instability.) ;)
[07:03] <ledbettj> standingstill:for both drivers, or just one?
[07:03] <owner__> it does not find the page at all
[07:03] <standingstill> both
[07:03] <SJ2000> thankyou very much
[07:04] <chris__> I've followed all of the guides for installing codecs and whatnot, but I can't get mplayer to play .ogg, .mov, .avi files
[07:04] <gyaresu> owner__: Your back. Did you follow all the instructions and did anything go wrong?
[07:04] <chris__> would someone offer me a suggestion?
[07:04] <kelsin> owner__: is apache running? and does http://127.0.0.1/test.php work?
[07:04] <ledbettj> standingstill:  hmm, I would suggest removing them both and installing just one.  I'm not sure exactly how to trouble shoot this.
[07:04] <bjv> what part of the system makes it go "begin: starting up RAIDs"      it makes my boot take >15min
[07:04] <owner__> yes apache is running
[07:04] <eck> bjv: i think that is mdadm
[07:04] <bjv> i cannot find any RAID superblocks left on my system with mdadm
[07:05] <owner__> that doesnt work either
[07:05] <standingstill> ok....so if i uninstall one....what's the next step i should take?
[07:05] <bjv> something is still triggering the "begin: starting up RAIDs"
[07:05] <gyaresu> owner__: and you installed apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[07:05] <owner__> yes
[07:05] <kelsin> owner__: probably should head over to #apache, they could probably help more then we can, I'm already stumped
[07:05] <gyaresu> owner__: and php5?
[07:05] <ledbettj> standingstill: I would uninstall them both, then use "sudo ndiswrapper -i theinffile.inf" to install one.
[07:05] <chip0wa> #macosx
[07:05] <PCGenie_> hi again, i am using gnome on my dappy desktop, what options do i have for rss viewing?
[07:05] <owner__> yes
[07:05] <ledbettj> standingstill:  then try to configure it with the network manager
[07:06] <gyaresu> !prefix | owner__
[07:06] <ubotu> owner__: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:06] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: thank you for your help with the screen res issue:)
[07:06] <ledbettj> you also might try googling for your card name to see if anyone else knows which driver works best
[07:06] <gyaresu> anonymeeee: Great. Glad you got it fixed.
[07:06] <b0rted> crimsun: sorry to disturb again, but i still dont know how/where to copy/convert the firmware from hotplug to udev
[07:06] <standingstill> ok...i'll try uninstalling both
[07:06] <ledbettj> standingstill:  sorry I couldn't help more
[07:06] <Jj> hi
[07:06] <crimsun> b0rted: that url has some hints for the conversion
[07:06] <gyaresu> owner__: 'telnet localhost 80' then type 'quit'
[07:07] <Jj> anyone knows how to enable amr codec in libavformat in ubuntu
[07:07] <standingstill> thanks anyways....if you run across anyone who knows more about it...send them my ways :)
[07:07] <standingstill> thanks!
[07:07] <ledbettj> sure thing!
[07:08] <ardchoille> PCGenie_: I like Liferea for rss stuff.. though there are probably more apps for it.
[07:08] <b0rted> crimsun: "If you had made any custom changes to the agent or rc scripts, these will need to be re-expressed as udev rules[0] " << all hint i can find
[07:09] <standingstill> ledbettj: this is the error msg i've been getting when i launch ndisgtk from the command line
[07:09] <nick125_lappy> omeil: I think the issue is with the vesa driver..
[07:10] <crimsun> b0rted: scroll down to the bottom of that url.
[07:10] <standingstill> it still launches the window and seems to work....but i still get that error msg when i launch it
[07:10] <owner__> !prefix | gyaresu_
[07:10] <ubotu> gyaresu_: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:10] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell owner__ about yourself
[07:10] <omeil> nick125_lappy: what type of vid card do you have in your comp?
[07:10] <morphinex> hey folks
[07:10] <nick125_lappy> I tried using the vga driver instead of vesa, and, it didn't segfault
[07:11] <morphinex> grub is throwing me error 5 after i put a new hard drive into my machine
[07:11] <gyaresu> owner__: Did you try the commands I listed?
[07:11] <nick125_lappy> omeil: no idea, it's some extremely old intel card
[07:11] <owner__> yes
[07:11] <gyaresu> owner__: I'm trying here but seriously dude do I look like a mind reader????
[07:11] <slylyias> What is CVS?
[07:11] <kelsin> !cvs
[07:11] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:11] <owner__> its says trying 127.0.1.1 but then doesnt do anything
[07:11] <welemski> hi
[07:12] <owner__> sorry i type slow
[07:12] <slylyias> so if a program I'm trying to get says it's only availiable through CVS, what does that mean?
[07:12] <billy> greetings earthlings.
[07:12] <b0rted> crimsun: sorry i dont understand that, i compiled a firmware, got a file.fw, and was told to put in /lib/hotplug/firmware
[07:12] <billy> can we talk about beryl in here?
[07:12] <omeil> nick125_lappy: should work in vesa tho.
[07:12] <standingstill> NDISWRAPPER PROBLEM
[07:12] <kelsin> slylyias: you have to download the code from the cvs server, compile and install it yourself
[07:12] <rbil> slylyias: it means it's going to come to u as raw source code. what the developers work with
[07:12] <welemski> does all the software in ubuntu ultimate edition 1.2 found in gamers edition?
[07:12] <gyaresu> owner__: try connecting with your browser to http://127.0.0.1
[07:12] <kelsin> slylyias: probably not something you want to mess with if you didn't know what cvs was to begin with
[07:13] <thoreauputic> morphinex: a quick google reveals 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt
[07:13] <standingstill> i keep getting this error when installing a driver: fred@Sluggo:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:13] <standingstill> Installing bcmwl5
[07:13] <standingstill> couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[07:13] <standingstill> fred@Sluggo:~$
[07:13] <b0rted> crimsun: SUBSYSTEM=="$SUBSYSTEM", RUN+="/lib/udev/$FOO" << where to use that?
[07:13] <kelsin> !pastbin standingstill
[07:13] <thoreauputic> morphinex: see http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html
[07:13] <kelsin> !pastebin standingstill
[07:13] <owner__> gyaresu_ it won't connect
[07:13] <kelsin> wow I'm a noob
[07:13] <billy> do I have to add "beryl-manager" to >preferences>sessions>startup programs to get the little red diamond in the system tray?
[07:13] <jlgaddis> billy: yeah
[07:13] <slylyias> kelsin: I want to compile and install something from source, I keep hitting that wall, no time like the present to learn (especially since I'm on an amd 64 and so often have to compile from source to get something)
[07:13] <standingstill> kelsin: i'm sorry...i don't understand "!pastbin"
[07:13] <crimsun> b0rted: in a udev rule
[07:13] <billy> jlgaddis: thanks.  beryl started fine, but the little red diamond didn't show up.
[07:13] <Flannel> welemski: Neither of those are official Ubuntu projects
[07:13] <jlgaddis> billy: you can start a terminal (or hit alt-f2) and start it up manually, but that gets old quick
[07:14] <morphinex> thoreauputic: it says busted partition, but I know that isn't the case
[07:14] <zcat[1] > !pastabin
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastabin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <rbil> billy: yes
[07:14] <owner__> gyaresu_ it says connection timed out
[07:14] <welemski> Flannel so I can't ask question about it here?
[07:14] <morphinex> grub seems to be looking at the new HD I installed for some reason
[07:14] <thoreauputic> morphinex: if it says that, then grub thinks that :)
[07:14] <morphinex> and failing there - when i unplug the new (blank) hd, everything works fine
[07:14] <gyaresu> owner__: try scanning yourself 'nc -v -z 127.0.0.1 1-1024'
[07:14] <kenthomson> HELP; i want to install the latest nvidia drivers from either the script-envy or lupine's-repositories, now my question is; if there are some kernel upgrades by ubuntu and i have another linux-restricted-module (due to my higher nvidia-glx than the official ubuntu one), than will i fail to get kernel security upgrades? Or what other problems will i encounter?like not getting kernel upgrades...or broken kernel or something? I am new, so please be a li
[07:14] <kenthomson> ttle more explanative in your reply. PLease HELP
[07:14] <billy> i'm so stoked that beryl works now.  i tried it before and it didn't work.  maybe there's something about a complete reinstall.  :)
[07:14] <Flannel> welemski: We wouldn't know anything about them.
[07:15] <thoreauputic> morphinex: is your new hdd formatted ? and is it hda or hdb or what?
[07:15] <welemski> just wan't to ask if someone here tried it out .... maybe ask some advice as to which one should I download
[07:15] <b0rted> crimsun: i dont know about that, thanks for ur help anyway
[07:15] <kelsin> slylyias: then look up some cvs tutorials online, you use cvs to download the code, then you do the normal compiling stuff, probably reading the README file included with the code is a good start on that
[07:15] <morphinex> it ins't formatted
[07:15] <morphinex> and is hdb
[07:15] <gyaresu> owner__: port 80 should be open if it's not then you need to change something. Sorry but I've got to go. Good luck.
[07:15] <morphinex> For whatever reason my system seems to have hdb and hdc
[07:15] <acid_burn> Has anyone used Parallels with Ubuntu 6.10?
[07:15] <zcat[1] > morphinex: the drive on your primary controller is jumpered as slave?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : no, it is master
[07:16] <acid_burn> Anyone?
[07:16] <kenthomson> crimsun, i read one of your conversation over IRC, regarding the installation of ktoon package from ubuntu's repos wherein a package had to be renamed to packageS, or something, that was interesting
[07:16] <zcat[1] > curious
[07:16] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have read-only) where is it now?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : well, it is cable select - the machine won't boot when it is set to slave
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : but the bios recognizes it as master
[07:16] <zcat[1] > morphinex: it's on the end connector?
[07:16] <crimsun> kenthomson: meaning hacking /var/lib/dpkg/status to get around k3d's breakage?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yup
[07:17] <zcat[1] > weird
[07:17] <morphinex> grub seems to be looking to it for something
[07:17] <morphinex> that is my only guess
[07:17] <kenthomson> crimsun, ya
[07:17] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me regarding my question above, about the official latest nvidia drivers and the future kernel upgrade problems associated with it?
[07:17] <rbil> morphinex: personally I prefer setting switches to master/slave rather than that silly cable select
[07:17] <zcat[1] > possibly you have sata on the board, set to emulate ide ?
[07:18] <xoss> where can i get the link to download previous releases of ubuntu? say hoary?
[07:18] <owner__> how do i open port 80
[07:18] <morphinex> rbil: me too, but cs is the only way it would book
[07:18] <acid_burn> uh.
[07:18] <morphinex> zcat[1] : the board is too old to have sata
[07:18] <zcat[1] > morphinex: I'm all out of guesses then :)
[07:19] <morphinex> zcat[1] : am I correct that grub is looking to the drive for something?
[07:19] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have it there as read-only) where is it now or how do I get it back?
[07:19] <rbil> morphinex: can u put the new hard drive on the other ide?
[07:19] <morphinex> rbil: the other bus is fill
[07:19] <morphinex> full
[07:19] <thoreauputic> xoss: http://archive.cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[07:19] <rbil> morphinex: well, I don't understand why switches don't work, unless you're making a mistake with them
[07:20] <xoss> thanks thoreauputic!
[07:20] <zcat[1] > morphinex: I think the kernel decides to call it /dev/hd? based on where it sees it.. nothing to do with grub afaik
[07:20] <thoreauputic> xoss: yw :)
[07:20] <sm0k3d> hey guys
[07:20] <billy> yo sm0k3d
[07:20] <morphinex> rbil: I don't really know either, but I fought with the mobo for a long time before I could get it to even recognize the new drive
[07:21] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[07:21] <rbil> so what's on ide2?
[07:21] <r4nge> where do i find what scripts/programs are loaded at system startup
[07:21] <standingstill> NDISWRAPPER ERROR: fred@Sluggo:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:21] <standingstill> Installing bcmwl5
[07:21] <standingstill> couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[07:21] <standingstill> fred@Sluggo:~$
[07:21] <morphinex> 2 hard drives - one with ubu and one with xp
[07:21] <ScreaminIke> makuseru: split
[07:21] <zcat[1] > makuseru: kino, perhaps.. or vlc?
[07:21] <cas3> how can I send a command to a new xterm? somecommand | xterm ?didnt work
[07:21] <makuseru> kino does DV only, vlc only does snapshots
[07:21] <standingstill> can anyone explain what this error means?
[07:22] <ALL4N> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <rbil> morphinex: and on ide1?
[07:22] <ardchoille> cas3: xterm -x command  ?
[07:22] <sm0k3d> im trying to get sshd to work on my box, i have the desktop version of ubuntu because i was having a lot of trouble with the server version, anyway i dont know how to edit iptables in the desktop mode so it will accept my port for sshd, can some1 help?
[07:22] <morphinex> nothing at the moment, but that is where i was trying to put the new hard drive
[07:22] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have it there as read-only) where is it now or how do I get it back?
[07:22] <xoss> im planning to install ubuntu on old pc's with specs: 128MB ram, PIII 1Ghz proc.. i plan to install old versions of ubuntu then just upgrade it later.. any better advice??
[07:22] <makuseru> screaminike: are you saying a command or what there?
[07:22] <zcat[1] > kino can import and export almost anything... not sure what vlc supports but it has some features for transcoding and stuff.. it might be able to split files
[07:22] <zcat[1] > xoss: xubuntu
[07:22] <rbil> morphinex: and you're using cable select on the new drive?
[07:22] <ardchoille> cas3: it may be -e
[07:22] <ScreaminIke> makuseru: man split
[07:22] <morphinex> rbil: yes
[07:23] <GazzaK> xoss: just use the alt cd installer
[07:23] <cas3> woo hoo
[07:23] <cas3> thanks
[07:23] <Madpilot> xoss, go with the latest version of xubuntu, from the alternate CD
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: and your bios wont see it if you set it as master?
[07:23] <Eclipse75> xoss, or use slackware or some low resource hog distro
[07:23] <GazzaK> yeah, or xubuntu :)
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: or stand alone?
[07:23] <ardchoille> cas3: :)
[07:23] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me regarding my question above, about the official latest nvidia drivers and the future kernel upgrade problems associated with it?
[07:23] <makuseru> screaminike: thank you
[07:23] <xoss> zcat[1] : alt cd installer? hmm.. havent tried it, i used the livecd before..
[07:23] <ScreaminIke> np
[07:23] <morphinex> rbil: it didn't work as master, i didn't try standalone
[07:23] <witless> ok, i got ivtv installed, and tvtime.  i ran v4l-conf and /dev/video0 exists.  but tvtime gives me: videoinput: Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument
[07:23] <zcat[1] > xoss: yeah, alt requires a lot less memory...
[07:23] <Madpilot> xoss, http://xubuntu.org/get
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: if it's the only one on ide1 it should be standalone
[07:24] <xoss> ok will try it..
[07:24] <xoss> thanks guys..
[07:24] <morphinex> rbil: what jumper setting does that need?
[07:24] <sm0k3d> im trying to get sshd to work on my box, i have the desktop version of ubuntu because i was having a lot of trouble with the server version, anyway i dont know how to edit iptables in the desktop mode so it will accept my port for sshd, can some1 help?
[07:24] <morphinex> rbil: there only seem to be three positions
[07:24] <rbil> morphinex: depends on the drive, look at the picture on the top :-)
[07:25] <morphinex> rbil: heh, I am - master, slave, and cable select
[07:25] <morphinex> rbil: slave has no jumper
[07:25] <ScreaminIke> where can i find iso's for ubuntustudio/ubuntu 7.04
[07:25] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: edit  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:25] <rbil> morphinex: what drive is it? model?
[07:25] <morphinex> maxtor diamondmax 20
[07:26] <morphinex> 160g
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: oh, sorry - iptables ?
[07:26] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: i edited the port there already, but for iptables
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: right
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: hang on a second
[07:26] <PCGenie_> ardchoille, does it automatically read rss when using firefox?
[07:27] <NoWhereToTurn> need some help... with a fresh install of 6.06
[07:27] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: I have a rule like this
[07:27] <ramza3> is samba a replacement for nfs?  is that still used?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -s 80.68.91.114  -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:27] <kenthomson> so long and thanks for the help :(
[07:28] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: umm- where the ip of the source is as you see on that line - you won't need that part
[07:28] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: ?
[07:28] <posingaspopular> NoWhereToTurn: problem?
[07:29] <ScreaminIke> where can i find iso's for ubuntustudio/ubuntu 7.04
[07:29] <posingaspopular> !feisty
[07:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: the rule would look like iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:29] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: just change from 22 to your port
[07:29] <NoWhereToTurn> from 26-386 which still boots ok
[07:30] <mneptok> NoWhereToTurn: LVM?
[07:30] <NoWhereToTurn> ?
[07:31] <mneptok> guess not
[07:31] <omeil> Hmm just tested Age of Wonders with wine and it worked 100% with no flaws
[07:31] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: this assumes that your default policy is "DROP"
[07:31] <ardchoille> PCGenie_: I haven't use Firefox's rss facilities yet, so I don't know.
[07:31] <rbil> morphinex: for single drive pins 7 and 8 should be jumpered
[07:31] <xoss> after installing xubuntu, can i "upgrade" to kubuntu?
[07:31] <carol34d> hello
[07:31] <morphinex> rbil: which are those?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> xoss: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <mneptok> NoWhereToTurn: where is Linux on the drive physically? within the first 120GB? 64GB? 32GB?
[07:32] <wavez> dumb question: how does one recover the root password?
[07:32] <zcat[1] > wavez: there is none
[07:32] <Flannel> wavez: Ubuntu doesnt use the root password
[07:32] <mneptok> wavez: there is no root password
[07:32] <zcat[1] > !sudo | wavez
[07:32] <thoreauputic> wavez: thereisn't one unless you made one
[07:32] <ubotu> wavez: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:32] <rbil> morphinex: http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
[07:32] <omeil> xoss:sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop just incase u don't know :)
[07:33] <xoss> ok, thanks.. will ask you about it if i've installed xubuntu already..
[07:33] <wavez> okay. How does one recover the user password?
[07:33] <Flannel> xoss: nope.  It doesn't care how many WMs you've installed.  You'll have both Kubuntu andXubuntu installed
[07:33] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: ok thanks, and if i want to delete one of the entries in iptables?
[07:33] <morphinex> rbil: I am using which setting? master?
[07:33] <zcat[1] > wavez: you can't.
[07:33] <rbil> morphinex: last one on that page, set for master
[07:33] <Flannel> wavez: You've forgotten your own password? And have no other sudo ones?
[07:33] <wavez> I have a computer I haven't used in a while and my friend and I can't remember the password
[07:33] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: you use the -D switch
[07:33] <omeil> jesus. package manager wants me to download 139 updates 0_o
[07:34] <Flannel> wavez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword to re-set it to something
[07:34] <zcat[1] > wavez: you can set a new password but it's a bit tricky.
[07:34] <morphinex> rbil: this graph is different from the one on the top of my drive
[07:34] <wavez> zcat[1] , ?
[07:34] <morphinex> but anyway, i have it set like that currentl
[07:34] <zcat[1] > what Flannel said
[07:34] <morphinex> err, I did, and it wouldn't boot
[07:34] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[07:34] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: thanks man, lemme check if i did it right =)
[07:34] <NoWhereToTurn> mneptok the drive is a 40GB drive. hda1 is /boot.. hda3 is Win2k (17GB) hda5 is / and hda7 is swap
[07:34] <Madpilot> morphinex, if there's a jumper graphic on the top of your HD, use it as a guide. Not all drives use the same jumper patterns.
[07:35] <SJ2000> I've installed envy in gnome (currently using the vesa driver) but do I have to restart computer for driver to take effect (since im still running livecd until I am certain that ubuntu desktop will work)
[07:35] <owner__> how can i open port 80
[07:35] <zcat[1] > morphinex: just for the record, CS only works with 80-conductor cable... you're not using the old stuff are you?
[07:35] <leros> i have the both wired connection and a wireless connection at the same time, and I want to use the wired for internet without disabling the wireless access
[07:35] <owner__> http://localhost will not load
[07:35] <morphinex> rbil: I'm using the cable that came with the drive
[07:35] <rbil> SJ2000: I wouldn't try to install nvidia proprietary driver in LiveCD. Wait and do it once you've installed to hard drive
[07:36] <ramza3> how do I look up information on an id, say '1000'
[07:36] <cybercat101> Hi I downloaded a file called skype-1.3.0.53-generic.tar.bz2 and was wondering how your install the file onto ubuntu
[07:36] <cybercat101> it is a linux program
[07:36] <thoreauputic> owner__: erm, is apache installed ?
[07:36] <aozaki> when you mount an external hd, does it have to be fat or can it be ntfs?
[07:36] <SJ2000> rbil: looks like I'm going to have to, that means RAID headaches
[07:36] <morphinex> rbil: and the drive jumpered for cable select is recognized as master
[07:36] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:36] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:37] <morphinex> rbil: i think the real problem is with grub
[07:37] <leros> how do i make ubuntu prefer my wired connection over my wireless connection?
[07:37] <zcat[1] > morphinex: If your drives are CS, the one in the middle of the cable will be slave and the one at the end master..
[07:37] <cybercat101> Madpilot:Thank you!
[07:37] <zcat[1] > (I think... hopefully I didn't get it wrong)
[07:37] <wavez> Flannel, zcat[1] , thanks
[07:38] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yeah, it is set up that way
[07:38] <zcat[1] > morphinex: So even if you only have one drive, if it's on the middle connector it'll be slave.
[07:38] <cybercat101> madpilot:what was that link again I closed my IRC too quickly
[07:38] <TeePOG> morning
[07:38] <cybercat101> for skype
[07:39] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yes, I know, but the problem I am having seems to be with grub
[07:39] <zcat[1] > morphinex: weird though if bios says it's master and linux picks it up as hdb
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:39] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:39] <leros> How do I make ubuntu use my wired connection for internet access without disabling the wireless connection?
[07:39] <TeePOG> can anyone tell me why my font size seems to be larger or smaller on alternate time that I login? yesterday my console font was small, now it's big, etc. same goes for my KDM login dialog
[07:39] <zcat[1] > morphinex: how about booting a live cd and trying dmsg ..
[07:39] <cybercat101> Madpilot:thanks
[07:39] <cybercat101> got it this time
[07:39] <Madpilot> cybercat101, np
[07:40] <pavs> how to mount an *.img file?
[07:40] <leros> can nobody help me?
[07:40] <morphinex> zcat[1] : heh, that pesents another whole round of problems - i have yet to even attempt to get the new drive and the cd-r working together
[07:40] <zcat[1] > pavs: mount -o loop file.img /mountpoint
[07:40] <pavs> zcat thanks
[07:41] <owner__> thoreauputic_:  apache is installed cuz when i try to start it again it says apache is already running
[07:41] <rbil> morphinex: where was the cdrom before?
[07:41] <pavs> zcat whats /mountpint
[07:41] <Flannel> owner__: How are you restarting it?
[07:41] <pavs> zcat whats /mountpoint
[07:41] <morphinex> rbil: it was the only device on ide1
[07:41] <zcat[1] > pavs: and empty dorectory where you want the filesystem to be mounted
[07:41] <NoWhereToTurn> also noticed that the problem entries in Grub had no "initrd /initd.." lines.. even after adding them still no change
[07:41] <pavs> ok
[07:41] <rbil> morphinex: then put it back on ide1 as master and make the new hard drive slave on ide1
[07:41] <pavs> brb
[07:42] <leros> I have a both a wired connection to my LAN and a wireless connection to a WAP, but I want ubuntu to use the wired connection for internet. How do I set that up?
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: heh, it was jumpered as slave but the bios recognized it as master...
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: but maybe you are right - I will try that
[07:42] <rbil> morphinex: worth a try. might work out
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: ok, I'll give it a shot and report back - thanks foor your help
[07:43] <rbil> best of luck
[07:43] <thoreauputic> leros: network-manager-gnome should do that for you automatically - you just set it to handle both wired and wireless
[07:43] <owner__> 'yes i already restarted using sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[07:43] <cybercat101> Madpilot:can I get that link one more time for skype sorry :(
[07:43] <zcat[1] > leros: set up a default gateway on the wired connection, and none on the wireless.
[07:43] <thoreauputic> leros: when you unplug the cable it should switch to wireless and vice versa
[07:43] <Madpilot> cybercat101, try sticking not closing IRC so fast next time...
[07:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:43] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:44] <leros> i could not get network-manager-gnome to isntall
[07:44] <leros> maybe that is another problem in itself
[07:44] <Flannel> owner__: use  `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart`
[07:45] <leros> i did sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome and it seemed to have installed, but when i restarted there were no noticable changes
[07:45] <thoreauputic> leros: try starting nm-applet from a terminal
[07:45] <leros> ok, let me reinstall nm
[07:45] <thoreauputic> leros: then do   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[07:46] <leros> oh, that worked
[07:46] <leros> how do i make that start with ubunut?
[07:46] <cybercat101> madpilot:do you know how to add the skype repository
[07:46] <cybercat101> or adding repository
[07:46] <thoreauputic> leros: you need to remove all your other network configs from /etc/network/interfaces  except the loopback ( lo)
[07:46] <Madpilot> cybercat101, no idea, never bothered with skype. check the wiki, the skype article should tell you.
[07:46] <owner__> Flannel_ i just did and it still will not run
[07:46] <cybercat101> Madpilot:Ty
[07:47] <owner__> i mean load localhost
[07:47] <Flannel> owner__: does Apache start successfully?
[07:47] <pavs> i mounted an image file of an OS can I make it run without restarting the computer?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> leros: nm should start on boot automatically ( or rather, on login to gnome I think )
[07:47] <owner__> yes
[07:47] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: thanks for your help, just wondering, do you think its bad to keep ssh on its default port 22?
[07:47] <NoWhereToTurn> .
[07:47] <leros> thoreauputic: so i just erase everything in interfaces? except lo
[07:47] <Flannel> owner__: And, you've got port 80 in Listen.conf, and haven't touched 000-default?
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: what all have you done thus far, config file wise?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: no, not really - but look at tcp wrappers and the options in the sshd config to restrict access
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: do you have apache and apache2 (or any other httpd) installed?
[07:48] <owner__> apache2
[07:48] <leros> thoreauputic: does it matter that im using beryl? would that stop it from running automatically
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: right, but *just* apache2?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> leros: just make sure the lo is configured, yes
[07:48] <thoreauputic> leros: I don't know about beryl
[07:48] <leros> i think that might be my problem
[07:49] <leros> since that is not gnome
[07:49] <thoreauputic> leros: could be - different window manager
[07:49] <pavs> how to burn a dvd image?
[07:49] <owner__> yes with php5 and mysqlserver-5.0
[07:49] <zcat[1] > beryl breaks the inbuilt vnc server .. I guess it might break other stuff too..
[07:49] <pavs> vnc
[07:49] <Flannel> owner__: what apache config files did you edit?
[07:49] <Madpilot> pavs, in ubuntu? right-click on it, choose the 'burn to disc' option?
[07:50] <zcat[1] > !vnc
[07:50] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:50] <leros> thoreauputic: waht does wiping out interaces do?
[07:50] <pavs> madpilot thanks
[07:50] <owner__> apache2.conf
[07:50] <thoreauputic> leros: nm wants to do the networking - the interfaces file just confuses it :)
[07:50] <owner__> thats it
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: just be sure your loopback is working though - leave that stanza alone
[07:51] <Flannel> owner__: what did you change in apache2.conf? (go ahead and pastebin it)
[07:51] <leros> thoreauputic: but if nm isnt starting automatically that could cause problems
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: indeed :)
[07:51] <leros> is there some way to make it start with ubuntu no matter what
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: best to back up your config, try it and see if it "works"
[07:52] <TeePOG> if it helps, i had a problem with network cards yesterday, especially after a change of NICs ... i had to comment out the line in /etc/iftab that assigned my old MAC to eth0
[07:52] <ahave> could someone help me configure FF to play .wmv files?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> !codecs | ahave
[07:52] <zcat[1] > !codecs | ahave
[07:52] <ubotu> ahave: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <ahave> thanks
[07:53] <zcat[1] > FF? Hmmmm
[07:53] <owner__> nevermind i didnt edit anything on there
[07:53] <zcat[1] > !plugins
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <owner__> i thought i did
[07:53] <NoWhereToTurn> no suggestions re the kernel panic after updating 6.06?
[07:53] <pavs> without rebooting or shutting down is it possible to take 10GB from my ntfs partition and add it to mylinux partition?
[07:53] <leros> ok, we are restarting ubuntu now
[07:53] <owner__> do i supposed too
[07:53] <zcat[1] > Is there a page on adding media plugins to firefox?
[07:53] <spike723> so I've been tracking feisty fawn for a couple of months, now that it is released, how do I switch to tracking the stable branch?
[07:53] <zcat[1] > page/factoid/whatever?
[07:53] <Rebecca> hey. i seem to have locked up my usb system.. lsusb freezes and kill -9 won't even remove it.. anyone know how to fix without rebooting?
[07:53] <Flannel> spike723: it's not released.  It's still alpha.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> !mplayer
[07:53] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:53] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:54] <rbil> zcat[1] : I'd assume that if mplayer was setup to play particular codecs, and the mplayer plugin was installed for FF, it would then work
[07:54] <zcat[1] > you'd hope so :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spike723: if you are tracking Feisty, it will become the stable branch :)
[07:55] <beefcake> hey all
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spike723: i.e. you don't have to change anything
[07:55] <SirOSOriS> does anyone know if you need jack to record with audacity?
[07:55] <sm0k3d> is ssh command line only?
[07:55] <zcat[1] > I find media on web pages almost never plays unless it's flash. Every site seems to wrap their clips in a popup window and three layers of redirected playlist links so it only ever works in MSIE
[07:55] <Flannel> sm0k3d: Yes.  If you want a GUi, you'll need to tunnel X through SSH
[07:55] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: you don't need jack to record with audacity
[07:56] <leros> thoreauputic: well, my internet works but networkmanager did not start on boot
[07:56] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: hahahaha
[07:56] <zcat[1] > But if you view source and paste the link into vlc it plays just fine
[07:56] <grEEKy> hi!
[07:56] <thoreauputic> leros: check   ps aux | grep -i network
[07:56] <SirOSOriS> thoreauputic, how do i record through my line plug? ive set line as recording device in alsamixer already and turned up the volume but i still cant hear my line in
[07:57] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: hmm - check your capture settings I think
[07:57] <rbil> well goodnight folks. have fun.
[07:58] <sm0k3d> flannel: if i ad tunnel X to sshd, can i use both command and GUI?
[07:58] <spike723> thoreauputic: ok I just leave feisty in my /etc/apt/sources.list?  how do I switch to running HEAD / current?
[07:58] <SirOSOriS> thoreauputic, capture settings? in alsamixer you mean? i did. where can i change capture settings?
[07:58] <thoreauputic> spike723: ?
[07:58] <SirOSOriS> i can not hear a thing from my line in thoreauputic
[07:58] <Madpilot> zcat[1] , this is because large parts of the interweb still party like it's 1997. In other words, they suck.
[07:58] <leros> thoreauputic: i lied, i just jumped the gun. network manager loaded, it just took a minute. Do i need to disable the default ubuntu manager? or should i just remove that icon from the panel?
[07:58] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: I do it in the gui in gnome - double click the volume applet thing
[07:58] <zcat[1] > Madpilot: they surely do..
[07:59] <thoreauputic> leros: I don't think it matters - I guess you can remove the icon
[07:59] <grEEKy> LOL
[07:59] <grEEKy> UBUNTU ROCKS!!!
[07:59] <grEEKy> :D
[07:59] <morphinex> heh
[07:59] <leros> thoreauputic: alright, thank you! i think we are working
[07:59] <grEEKy> kekekkekekek
[07:59] <SirOSOriS> ok thoreauputic thanks
[07:59] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: it might be under preferences - can't remember
[07:59] <SirOSOriS> ta
[07:59] <morphinex> no luck - still grub error 5
[07:59] <ardchoille> No more coffee for grEEKy
[07:59] <morphinex> in stage 1.5
[08:01] <zcat[1] > Hmm.. just rememberd a couple of things I was supposed to do before it gets dark.. catch U all later
[08:01] <grEEKy> what?
[08:01] <sm0k3d> if u use tunnel X though ssh, can a windows PC connect to my ubuntu box?
[08:01] <grEEKy> alprazolam, lorazepam, diazepam?
[08:01] <grEEKy> :E
[08:01] <a_coward> how do i reconfigure x?
[08:01] <grEEKy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:01] <yoopernate> what is f-prot installer
[08:01] <a_coward> thanks
[08:01] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: with putty and an X server maybe :)
[08:02] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: sounds like a lot of work... ill stick to command line =)
[08:03] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: I don't run Windows - but you can do that kind of thing from Windows with Cygwin IIRC
[08:04] <spike723> thoreauputic: how do I switch to running the development branch of ubuntu?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: the developmant branch is Feisty currently
[08:05] <spike723> I thought feisty had branched and is now stable?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: after april it will be whatever the new name is ;)
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: no, still alpha - release is in April
[08:06] <posingaspopular> spike723: documentation just finished from what i hear
[08:06] <posingaspopular> like... 5 minutes ago
[08:06] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386  .. 2.6.15-26-386 boots fine
[08:07] <umop> How can i make gnome use icons rather than text in the default panel?
[08:07] <Flannel> spike723: No.  Feisty is still alpha.  It'll be released mid-april, it'll go beta... within the next few weeks, I believe.
[08:07] <thoreauputic> umop: gconf-editor probably
[08:07] <Flannel> !feisty | spike723
[08:07] <ubotu> spike723: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <umop> thoreauputic, okay, Ill take look
[08:08] <spike723> is ubuntu kept in cvs, subversion, something else?
[08:09] <dooglus> spike723: no :)
[08:09] <detectiveinspekt> Hi I have a problem with nautilus using 100% cpu usage and I have no idea whats it doing.
[08:09] <dooglus> detectiveinspekt: strace knows
[08:10] <colissa> Hello
[08:10] <umop> thoreauputic, this isn't going to be simple?
[08:10] <detectiveinspekt> who is strace?
[08:10] <umop> haha
[08:10] <thoreauputic> umop: don't know - never tried it :)
[08:11] <dooglus> detectiveinspekt: it's a command
[08:11] <JoshJWeaver> Hi everyone, can I get some help getting Rhythmbox to play MP3s
[08:11] <umop> thoreauputic, :)
[08:11] <dmb062082> is the latest ubuntu Feisty Fawn stable enough to run with out major problems?
[08:11] <colissa> i'm sory i'm try to install compiz in ubunto but when i run it i stay whithout the windows menus ... someone knows why this happend?
[08:11] <eshaase> when partitioning my disk using fdisk what is the difference between W95 FAT32 and W95 FAT232 (LBA)?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> detectiveinspekt: strace is a very verbose incomprehensible lady ;p
[08:11] <shockwave1> joshjweaver: rythombox should play them with no problem
[08:12] <ramza3> ok, I figured it out; why my permissions are drwx--- blah; they are inherited from the samba server, exactly.  is there a way to override those permissions
[08:12] <shockwave1>  JoshJWeaver: you might need to make sure you have all the the formats supported
[08:12] <zackglennie__> I seem to have missed the step in setup where I define my console keymap.  I use dvorak.  Which conf file governs this?
[08:12] <bullgard1> dmb062082: Yes. It is. At least with me. And I have a new and somewhat exotic notebook.
[08:13] <thoreauputic> dmb062082: if it breaks you get to keep the pieces ;)
[08:13] <morphinex> ok, I booted from a livecd
[08:13] <fossilz> i installed mrtg but messed it up.. it wouldnt "update" so i did a apt-get remove and deleted the mrtg.cfg etc...
[08:13] <fossilz> now when i try to apt-get install it again it doesnt give new cfg files..
[08:13] <NoWhereToTurn> how can one redo the updates that Update Manager just performed but apparently not correctly?
[08:13] <posingaspopular> can you get it using aptitude
[08:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: greetings, Seveas  :)
[08:14] <fossilz> any ideas ?
[08:14] <posingaspopular> sudo aptitude install whatever
[08:14] <posingaspopular> and if that doenst work
[08:14] <posingaspopular> then you just purge the program
[08:14] <A[D] minS> can i login into windows Domain network?
[08:14] <posingaspopular> fossilz: i was refering to you
[08:14] <A[D] minS> from Ubuntu ?
[08:14] <A[D] minS> !domain
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <fossilz> ok ill try that
[08:14] <fossilz> tnx
[08:15] <posingaspopular> i duno what mtfg or whatever is
[08:15] <posingaspopular> but aptitude handles repositories better than apt-get from what ive been told by many people
[08:16] <JoshJWeaver> shockwave1: Thanks for replying, sorry went to another window. Well I read that i need to install codecs? gstreamer or something, and did that from the Package Manager, but, I don't know what I am doing, this is my 4th day in Linux
[08:18] <aozaki> is there a way to allow ubuntu to read ntfs file systems?
[08:18] <arrenlex> aozaki: Only read, or write also?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> aozaki: what do you need?
[08:18] <ramza3> when mounting with cifs/samba and mounting a network drive in my fstab; anybody know an option to override the directory permissions inherited from the network samba mount
[08:18] <aozaki> looking to write to a usb hd
[08:18] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | aozaki
[08:18] <ubotu> aozaki: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:19] <kenthomson> I want to know the complete process of setting up a LTSP-ed lab, with one server, and 10-thin-clients. I don't know much about hardware/linux. But i love ubuntu enough, and am ambitious/enthusiastic enough to go about this project alone. Can some of you tell me the keywords/websites/other-useful things, that i will have to research to accomplish this project? And the main things required? And is it really complex?
[08:19] <fossilz> hmm
[08:19] <fossilz> :(
[08:19] <kenthomson>  may i have a web-source/keywords/list-of-important things to consider while i go about researching for this project? maybe web-sites/google-keywords, anything? What brand hardware is supported by OS community? Intel/AMD, nvidia/ATi, soundcard, netwrok_switched/ D_link/pthers. Anything....?
[08:19] <aozaki> thanks arrenlex, i'll take a look
[08:19] <purplepenguin> I recommend Nvidia cards more
[08:20] <kenthomson> purplepenguin, that is the only thing i know at the moment ;)
[08:20] <purplepenguin> between Intel and AMD, it depends on the chipset
[08:20] <thoreauputic> KennethP: have a look at the edubuntu site
[08:20] <umop> fossilz, try a purge?
[08:20] <yoopernate> does anyone know how to get rid of the f-prot installer
[08:20] <purplepenguin> I've never had problems with Intel though
[08:20] <NoWhereToTurn> well going to call it a night.. going to see if I can reverse this screwed up update tomorrow
[08:20] <thoreauputic> bah kenthomson look at the edubuntu site for ltsp info
[08:21] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, i am surely going to do that. but i was thinking if any experiences linux_user had some tips, list-of-keywords (refer above) to tell me. You see first-hand -experience communicates more strongly than written word.
[08:22] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, purplepenguin, i am all ears
[08:22] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: try googling "remote X linux"
[08:22] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: there is also ab ltsp site of course
[08:22] <thoreauputic> *an
[08:22] <tjb13> hey guys, i have wireless working but I'm afraid that when i get back to my apartment i am going to need wpa2 and don't ahve a way to put in that key in gnome
[08:22] <JoshJWeaver> Could somebody assist me with getting my mp3 codecs installed correctly, and/or with getting access to my ntfs partition?
[08:23] <umop> JoshJWeaver, what are your problems?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: I have just played around a bit with remote X over ssh and xdmcp - both are quite easy to set up really
[08:23] <tjb13> hey guys, i have wireless working but I'm afraid that when i get back to my apartment i am going to need wpa2 and don't ahve a way to put in that key in gnome
[08:23] <tjb13> whats a good way to see the signal and be able to choose wireless networks
[08:23] <umop> tjb13, Try wifi-radar
[08:23] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Well, for Rhythmbox, I do need to install mp3 codecs, gstreamer(?) to play mp3s, correct?
[08:23] <tjb13> maybe a mac os x like network chooser
[08:23] <tjb13> does it work with gnome?
[08:23] <umop> tjb13, yes
[08:24] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Correct, perhaps you are missing some packages? Do you get any errors?
[08:24] <colissa> i'm having problems running direct rendering ... and i have the ati graphic card enabled ... someone knows how can i resolve this?1
[08:24] <tjb13> umop is there one that can sit in my gnome panel?
[08:24] <arrenlex> colissa: Are you trying to use fglrx?
[08:24] <tjb13> and does this and ubuntu support wpa2?
[08:24] <umop> tjb13, I think it does..
[08:24] <tjb13> hrmmm
[08:25] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, thanks! is there anything you would like to add?
[08:25] <colissa> arrenlex i'm allready using the fglrx
[08:25] <maxx18> the aussie repos seem to be going really slow (even just for reloading package info).... does anyone know if there will be any negative effects if i use the main ubuntu server in my sources.list?
[08:25] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Yes one for every song I try to put in.  I did install the gstreamer stuff that i was told to, and it didn't work, and then all the rest, still nothing.  But, I am completely new to linux, so, after I use the package manager, do I have to do anything else?
[08:25] <arrenlex> colissa: Pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:25] <arrenlex> !pastebin | colissa
[08:25] <ubotu> colissa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:25] <billytwowilly>  so if I want to say all ip's from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.whatever highest number is here how would I say that in the 192.168.1.1/blahblah format?
[08:25] <colissa> one minute please
[08:25] <Seveas> billytwowilly, 192.168.1.0/24
[08:26] <billytwowilly> thanks
[08:26] <Differ> isn't that router?
[08:26] <qfour20> what is the recommended swap space for a machine with 2gb of ram?
[08:26] <JoshJWeaver> umop: the error I get is just saying the decoder can't be found
[08:26] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: I think the best approach might be to look at installing edubuntu - it is designed to do this more or less "out of the box" - but really you can do pretty much the same thing just with ssh -X and some configuration for login etc
[08:26] <umop> JoshJWeaver, I reccommend you search 'mp3' with the gui 'Add/Remove Applications' from the applications menu
[08:26] <arrenlex> qfour20: Shouldn't need more than 1GB or so with that much ram.
[08:26] <Seveas> qfour20, 512mb for the fun of it but with 2g you don't need swap
[08:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas: sweet, works. thanks. You wouldn't happen to know the significance of the 24 would you? I thought it wouldbe 192.168.1.1/255 because I thought the last number you could get in the last spot was 255
[08:27] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, right!
[08:27] <Seveas> billytwowilly, /24 means a mask of 24 bits
[08:27] <colissa> arrenlex it says i'm try to spam o0 0o LOL
[08:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas: heh. a mask? I'll have to go look it up I think.
[08:27] <kane77> hi
[08:27] <YooperNate_> is anyone else having problems with f-prot?
[08:27] <arrenlex> colissa: What?
[08:27] <dooglus> qfour20: take the most memory you're ever going to need, subtract 2GB from that, and that's the amount of swap you need.
[08:28] <kane77> what do I use to comment stuff in /etc/netwok/interfaces?
[08:28] <dooglus> kane77: #
[08:28] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: straight remote X can be set up in gdm preferences with a few click by the way - but is much less secure of course
[08:28] <qfour20> does ubuntu benefit from having a seperate boot partition, or just throw everything on an ext3 partition and call it a day?
[08:28] <kane77> dooglus, thanx, I'm kind of used to use // :)
[08:28] <timfros1> billytwowilly: that /24 means that the first 24 bits are fixed.  Equates to a netmask of 255.255.255.0
[08:28] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Okay, what am I looking for, should i go with a different player other than Rhythmbox?
[08:29] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13477 here is it :) i was say that the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org was say that i was try to spam them when i try to input my xorg.conf
[08:29] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Rhythmbox should be fine..it will work.  You might like to try other later of course.
[08:29] <colissa> that what the server say :)
[08:29] <beuno> JoshJWeaver: I find "listen" to be very nice
[08:30] <arrenlex> colissa: Execute this:
[08:30] <kane77> dooglus, and one more question, does ubuntu bring up/down network interfaces when hibernating?
[08:30] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Now after searching, select the GStreamer extra plugins and install them
[08:30] <ahave> could someone help me getting the medibuntu repo to work/
[08:30] <dooglus> kane77: I never got it to hibernate suvccessfully, so I don't know
[08:30] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Yes, for now I am mainly concerned with learning how this all works and how to get things to work, I am surprised I got my wireless card to work and got connected to my network, after about 4 hours or so.
[08:30] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo sed -i 's/"Composite" "Enable"/Option "Composite" "Disable"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:31] <umop> kane77, It seems to depend on the laptop :(
[08:31] <arooni> hey folks i'm having trouble with my synaptics touchpad..... when my laptop wakes up from hibernate it works... but when it normally boots up it doesnt
[08:31] <colissa> ok
[08:31] <kane77> umop, I mean on the desktop
[08:31] <arooni> ideas on how to get it working 100%  (i'm talking specificallya bout scrolling functionality)
[08:31] <arooni> like vertical scroll for example
[08:31] <arrenlex> colissa: Then execute this:
[08:31] <beuno> JoshJWeaver: a lot of work has been done on network (and wifi specific) in Feisty, Ubuntu's next release.  So you should have a much better expierience next time
[08:32] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo sed -i 's/Option Option/Option/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <dooglus> arrenlex: did you install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?
[08:32] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Oh, wow, that seems embarrassingly simple :) I had only Ubuntu stuff showing.  So, when I install package with the manager, does that only put the install files onto my computer, but not actually install them then?
[08:32] <arrenlex> dooglus: ?
[08:32] <tjb13_> hey guys how do you add network-manager-gnome to your panel
[08:32] <colissa> ok
[08:32] <dooglus> sorry, wrong person...
[08:32] <arooni> dooglus: are you talking to me?
[08:32] <dooglus> arooni: did you - yes...
[08:32] <arrenlex> colissa: Then restart X. If it still doesn't work, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:33] <umop> JoshJWeaver, They will be installed :)
[08:33] <arooni> dooglus: i'm not sure... let me try pasting in your command
[08:33] <eshaase> how come when i do a 'sudo pvcreate /dev/hda7 && sudo pvdisplay' it shows my pv at /dev/evms/hda7 instead of /dev/hda7?
[08:33] <dooglus> arooni: the command is:   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:33] <colissa> arrenlex done
[08:33] <arrenlex> colissa: Does it work?
[08:33] <arooni> dooglus: says i already have latest version.... i also have 'qsynatpics' installed too
[08:33] <colissa> no
[08:33] <dooglus> ok
[08:33] <kane77> umop, I have vnstat measuring my internet communication (data transfered) and when I hibernate it adds couple of GBs (!!!) to it.. I wrote to the writer of vnstat and he said that it depends on whether ubuntu brigs interfaces up/down or just cold power off...
[08:34] <arrenlex> colissa: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log then
[08:34] <arooni> dooglus: but i still cant get vertical scroll workng consistently
[08:34] <ahave> what public key does medibuntu require? i seem to have the wrong one
[08:34] <dooglus> arooni: it works sometimes?
[08:35] <arooni> dooglus: yes it does... but now it doesnt :(
[08:35] <umop> kane77, Oh wow.. I thought it took down the network devices, perhaps not
[08:35] <beefcake69> hello, can someone please give me some ideas on how to fix a problem im having with ubuntu
[08:35] <arrenlex> !ask | beefcake
[08:35] <ubotu> beefcake: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:35] <dooglus> beefcake69: reboot?
[08:35] <beefcake69> thank you
[08:35] <Differ> lol.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> ;p
[08:35] <beefcake69> tried that
[08:35] <dooglus> heh
[08:35] <Differ> Unix manuals are 60 kg, not 50 kg
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Differ: and up, yeah :)
[08:36] <beefcake69> yesterday I installed beryl as a service to start with gnome
[08:36] <kane77> umop, there is no real traffic, but when you resume vnstat assumes there the counters have rolled over...
[08:36] <beefcake69> its causing issues, so how do I prevent it from starting
[08:36] <beefcake69> I can log into recovery mode
[08:36] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13478 when type glxinfo |grep direct rendering says ... -> grep: rendering: No such file or directory -> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:36] <JoshJWeaver> What do all the different colors of names mean?
[08:36] <arooni> dooglus: any suggestions
[08:36] <beefcake69> what do I need to do from there please :P
[08:37] <posingaspopular> JoshJWeaver: nothinf
[08:37] <posingaspopular> they are completly random i think
[08:37] <arrenlex> colissa: Wrong file. I asked for /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:37] <posingaspopular> on my screen you are pink, i am black
[08:37] <posingaspopular> etc
[08:37] <colissa> o0 0o sorry :X
[08:37] <dooglus> arooni: no, I've never seen an intermittant problem with a synaptics touchpad.  im my experience they work or they don't
[08:37] <JoshJWeaver> I've noticed everyone saying JoshJWeaver: in the beginning has brown/tan names
[08:37] <ahave> what public key does medibuntu require? i seem to have the wrong one
[08:37] <JoshJWeaver> posingaspopular: No color change here?
[08:37] <posingaspopular> nope
[08:37] <arrenlex> JoshJWeaver: Your IRC client is doing that to make sure you see those messages.
[08:38] <posingaspopular> JoshJWeaver: but when you pick someone out the text turns red. see?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> JoshJWeaver: it's configurable - and one colour is used fro nick highlighting
[08:38] <arrenlex> JoshJWeaver: That's why you always prefix messages with the nick of who you're speaking to. All IRC clients do that.
[08:38] <arrenlex> !who | JoshJWeaver
[08:38] <Differ> lol.
[08:38] <ubotu> JoshJWeaver: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:38] <posingaspopular> as oposed to regular stuff
[08:38] <arooni> dooglus: should i only have qsynaptics or the xorg thing installed?  maybe its geting confused
[08:38] <arrenlex> !prefix | JoshJWeaver
[08:38] <Differ> red waterfall
[08:38] <ubotu> JoshJWeaver: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[08:38] <qfour20> I must say, I read a thread today on the ubuntu forums... I can't decide if the people answering questions are saints or massochists.  Amazingly supportive community.  UbuntuDupe would have been torn to shreds in some other community support forums (for good reason).
[08:38] <Differ> imagine what JoshJWeaver must be seeing
[08:38] <Differ> as JoshJWeaver's name is coming up everywhere
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> arrenlex: This is my first time connecting to an IRC chat, except like 5 minutes before when I first got it connected
[08:39] <Kiongku> Hi, can someone paste bin his default /boot/grub/menu.lst and show me?
[08:39] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13479
[08:39] <arrenlex> qfour20: Yeah, that's why I hang out here despite the fact that I don't run Ubuntu. :) Great community. Love helping here.
[08:39] <dooglus> arooni: I uninstall anything with a 'q' in its name as a matter of course
[08:39] <thoreauputic> qfour20: or saints AND masochists ;p
[08:39] <arrenlex> colissa: You didn't restart X after making that change.
[08:39] <qfour20> hey, grub syntax for hdd would be hd3, right?
[08:39] <dooglus> ahave: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg ?
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> !who | umop
[08:39] <ubotu> umop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> hmm
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> worked real well :)
[08:40] <colissa> arrenlex ermmm o0 0o you right o0 0o sorry one secound :x
[08:40] <JoshJWeaver> I'll hopefully figure it out over time and read stuff online, thanks everyone!
[08:40] <beefcake69> any suggestion? :P
[08:41] <JoshJWeaver> Yay music!
[08:41] <ahave> dooglus, what do i do with that?
[08:41] <umop> JoshJWeaver, good work!
[08:42] <knoppix_> Hi I was here a few hours ago.. Running Knoppix Live CD trying to copy contents of one NTFS drive to another NTFS drive, getting an error saying "can't create folder, /media/sbd1/BACKUP/Catalogue" can anyone please help me?
[08:42] <bu2> Has anyone used the PEAR command-line installer? I am trying to install PHP OpenID library, but it only says how to do it with PEAR.
[08:42] <qfour20> knoppix_: was disk sbd1 mounted as read only?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> knoppix_: by default, ntfs is read only in linux
[08:43] <bu2> !ntfs
[08:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:43] <knoppix_> !ntfs
[08:43] <umop> bu2, why not install pear?
[08:43] <bu2> how do i?
[08:43] <knoppix_> Ok so where/how can I change the permissions to read and write?
[08:43] <ahave> dooglus, i am trying to follow these directions: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php   but what/where is the sources.list file?
[08:43] <bu2> I can't find it in the repositories
[08:43] <dooglus> ahave: you wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:43] <bu2> !fuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:43] <dooglus> ahave: it's in /etc/at
[08:44] <dooglus> sorry
[08:44] <thoreauputic> knoppix_: you can't - but you can use ntfs-3g ( I don't know if knoppix includes that)
[08:44] <dooglus> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13480
[08:44] <umop> bu2, php-pear
[08:44] <colissa> arrenlex hummmmmmm :)
[08:44] <bu2> thanks
[08:45] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g | knoppix_
[08:45] <ubotu> knoppix_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:45] <arrenlex> colissa: Progress! Now you're stuck on a new problem. :)
[08:45] <colissa> arrenlex what the problem?! :X
[08:46] <ahave> dooglus, the command you gave me returned 'OK' yet i still have the problem
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Do this: sudo wget http://68.148.168.84:8001/libGL.so.1.2 -O/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[08:46] <ahave> dooglus, i also do not have an /etc/at dir
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Then do this: sudo ldconfig
[08:46] <arooni> dooglus: so now i managed to get it so i couldnt see the preferences => touchpad
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Then restart X and try again.
[08:46] <colissa> ok
[08:46] <arooni> even though i installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:47] <arooni> how can i refresh my system => preferencees view
[08:47] <arooni> to show touchpad?
[08:47] <colissa> arrenlex i type glxinfo | grep rendering and it allready say direct rendering: Yes :X
[08:47] <arrenlex> colissa: Please paste the entire output of glxinfo | grep render
[08:48] <lori> hi all, i have some networking questions
[08:48] <dobblego> is there a way of forcing a user to change their password on next login?
[08:48] <colissa> arrenlex direct rendering: Yes ->  GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture -> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1600 Series Generic
[08:48] <lori> ttfn
[08:49] <bullgard1> I want irssi to display received text starting at column 14. Thus i put into file  /home/detlef/.irssi/default.theme the line 'indent = 14'. I issued the command  '/reload'. I cannot see any effect of my action. What went wrong?
[08:49] <arrenlex> colissa: Hmm. I'm still fairly certain you don't have hardware accelerated rendering.
[08:49] <arrenlex> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[08:50] <arrenlex> colissa: I think you should still run my command. Direct rendering isn't the same as 3D acceleration.
[08:50] <ramza3> well these are some strange file permissions: ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? NewMarTransfer/.
[08:50] <colissa> arrenlex well this is one ati  radeon x1600 from ... gigabyte :\
[08:50] <colissa> shure one minut please
[08:51] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: try #irssi maybe
[08:51] <bullgard1> thoreauputic: #irssi is a lame duck.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: really? I got help there several times
[08:53] <bullgard1> Me too. Still. There is almost no traffic over the day.
[08:53] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo ldconfig and Restart X.
[08:53] <colissa> ok
[08:53] <ahave> if i installed a kde addon for my ubuntu distro, how can i remove it now?
[08:54] <cjvail13> i am hoping that someone can help me i need to change my screen resolution but the three options it gives me are not the one that i need
[08:54] <beefcake> hello all any ideas on my problem with beryl?
[08:55] <Differ> um
[08:55] <Differ> I think people are sleeping
[08:55] <beefcake> maybe :P
[08:55] <omeil> im not
[08:56] <omeil> :)
[08:56] <omeil> im ALIVE
[08:56] <posingaspopular> no
[08:56] <Differ> and I'm really a newb.
[08:56] <posingaspopular> studying
[08:56] <beefcake> I really want to try and fix this rather than having to reinstall
[08:56] <beefcake> or go back to windoze
[08:56] <omeil> could always dual boot
[08:56] <posingaspopular> beefcake: try #beryl
[08:56] <posingaspopular> or ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <posingaspopular> i dont use beryl
[08:56] <omeil> thts what im doing except i haven't even gone into windoze yet lol
[08:56] <posingaspopular> non free
[08:56] <colissa> arrenlex done it
[08:56] <arrenlex> colissa: New /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:57] <omeil> anyone here play WoW on a private server or am i the only cheap skate here?
[08:57] <omeil> although i just finished school and have no job :).
[08:57] <p00f> is nvidia 6600, a geforce 6 series? TIA
[08:57] <arrenlex> omeil: This breaking news live from your parents' basement?
[08:58] <yomm> lol
[08:58] <arooni> how do i list all running processes
[08:58] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13481
[08:59] <Differ> sinoyster: what's giong on?
[08:59] <p00f> arooni, type TOP in a console window
[08:59] <p00f> top i mean
[08:59] <arrenlex> colissa: Hehe... same error. What version of fglrx do you have?
[08:59] <arooni> p00f: thats not all of them
[08:59] <colissa> well the ubuntu version :x i think
[08:59] <arooni> i did ps -e -l
[08:59] <arooni> but the thing is... how can i grep on that
[09:00] <arooni> i tried to do.... ps -e -l |
[09:00] <arooni> grep server
[09:00] <arooni> it didnt work
[09:00] <arrenlex> colissa: Oh, duh. Aiglx doesn't work with fglrx. Dunno what I was thinking.
[09:00] <xerophyte> does anybody know any site which list all the new books published each month which is related linux?
[09:00] <omeil> arrenlex: na :) in my room
[09:01] <colissa> arrenlex lol and the compiz?!
[09:01] <omeil> arrenlex: been applying for jobs but, it's kinda hard to get a job here since i live 100k
[09:01] <omeil> away from city
[09:01] <omeil> in australia :)
[09:01] <arrenlex> colissa: You need xgl for compiz under fglrx.
[09:01] <Lynoure> xerophyte: haven't heard of any site doing that. But searching weekly at some huge online bookstore might catch most of them.
[09:01] <yomm> down unda'
[09:01] <arrenlex> omeil: They have jobs in australia?
[09:01] <arrenlex> omeil: They have cities in austrailia?
[09:02] <arooni> how can i 'search' ps
[09:02] <omeil> arrenlex: lol :D. i live in the country so its kinda hard to get jobs
[09:02] <arooni> for a specific name of a process
[09:02] <Differ> omeil: there are people in Australia?
[09:02] <arrenlex> Exactly!
[09:02] <colissa> arrenlex so only nvidia works form compiz and xgl?!
[09:02] <yomm> omeil : so you are running UBUSHTU ?
[09:02] <Differ> omeil: there's a country called Australia?
[09:02] <ahave> if i installed a kde addon for my ubuntu distro, how can i remove it now?
[09:02] <arrenlex> colissa: In order to use compiz: nvidia->aiglx, ati->xgl
[09:02] <omeil> lol
[09:03] <kane77> omeil, hey man you're popular!! :)
[09:03] <arrenlex> !xgl | colissa
[09:03] <ubotu> colissa: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:03] <omeil> LOL
[09:03] <arrenlex> colissa: At least it'll be easy to install now that your rendering is working. :)
[09:03] <arrenlex> colissa: They can help you better in #ubuntu-effects with xgl problems.
[09:04] <omeil> i was born here but im actually maltese tho :). so im a european aussie lol
[09:04] <colissa> arrenlex shure thanks :) you was one greta help to be i have try to fix this for a days lol :) thanks
[09:05] <mneptok> hehehe. Malta.
[09:05] <omeil> yup
[09:05] <arrenlex> colissa: yw. Good luck.
[09:05] <nutterpc> lol
[09:05] <colissa> lol thanks :)
[09:05] <mneptok> another Maltese IRC user i know complains about the "frigid" 10C temps
[09:05] <mneptok> (-25C here, ATM)
[09:05] <omeil> ouch
[09:06] <nutterpc> I love the cold weather
[09:06] <nutterpc> and yes, I'm aussie as well
[09:06] <omeil> australia is always hot as hell damn it lol
[09:06] <mneptok> nutterpc: FYI, nowhere in Oz gets "cold"
[09:06] <mneptok> "chilly" maybe.
[09:06] <arooni> is there a 'cleartype' for ubuntu
[09:06] <nutterpc> lol
[09:06] <arrenlex> omeil: sed 's/hot as//g'
[09:06] <qfour20> I'm in the "manual partition" screen while trying to install ubuntu and i have "/" assigned to the slice of disk that I want to install ubuntu onto and I get an error "No root file system"
[09:06] <omeil> not bad today tho
[09:07] <omeil> sometimes you wakeup sticking to your bed lol
[09:07] <omeil> nutterpc: you play negames?
[09:07] <nutterpc> omeil: sorta........depends on the mood
[09:08] <omeil> nutterpc: any free games?
[09:08] <knoppix_> !ntfs-3g
[09:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:08] <nutterpc> omeil: not really
[09:08] <omeil> nutterpc: what are the most played?
[09:09] <nutterpc> arcade games
[09:09] <omeil> oh lol
[09:09] <omeil> so emulation?
[09:09] <nutterpc> no, actual arcade games :P
[09:09] <omeil> :P
[09:09] <omeil> he everyone likes mame
[09:09] <omeil> hey*
[09:09] <omeil> :P
[09:10] <qfour20> hahahaha
[09:10] <qfour20> "life is too short to run gentoo"
[09:10] <omeil> yea i just saw that aswell :D
[09:10] <omeil> oh i needs a restart :) updated
[09:10] <qfour20> worse yet
[09:10] <qfour20> "life is too short to support a production workload on gentoo."
[09:12] <qfour20> so, anybody know what might cause the installer to complain to me "No root file system" when I'm trying to install with "custom partitioning"?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> qfour20: yes
[09:12] <posingaspopular> its a known bug
[09:12] <posingaspopular> let me pull up the bug report
[09:12] <qfour20> excellent.  I'm not alone.
[09:13] <posingaspopular> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130
[09:13] <posingaspopular> i duno if this is the same thing as what you have
[09:13] <posingaspopular> but i had the same issue a month or so back
[09:13] <posingaspopular> and that bug report was the solution
[09:13] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure its fixed in feisty
[09:13] <santi> hi guys and girls
[09:13] <chindu> hi - i've recently started using ubuntu and am trying to grep some specific users out of an ISA 2004 w3c log. That works fine but the problem I get is the file is no longer readable by the analysis software. I was wondering if it was something to do with the character encoding being different. I'm kind of out of ideas.......any ideas would be great!
[09:14] <JoshJWeaver> Where is a good spot for me to read online so I can understand the difference between KDE and Gnome and what changes are made when I change them, like why is Kubuntu different if it's just a different GUI?
[09:14] <mneptok> chindu: what is this "analysis software?"
[09:15] <posingaspopular> !gnome
[09:15] <yomm> a
[09:15] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:15] <posingaspopular> !kde
[09:15] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[09:15] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: you like soda?  Do you drink coke?  Mountain Dew?  Perrier?  They are all carbonated (and mostly sweetened) beverages.
[09:15] <qfour20> Some are sweetned more than others, some have preservatives, etc.  Window managers are very similar.
[09:15] <JoshJWeaver> qfour20: I have a mt dew can right here, I love soda
[09:16] <posingaspopular> haah
[09:16] <ahave> how can i remove the kde addon?
[09:16] <cappychan> chindu: do you know about the differences between windows and linux line breaks?
[09:16] <posingaspopular> just remember that GNOME sucks
[09:16] <mneptok> posingaspopular: stop trolling
[09:16] <slv> why does gnome suck
[09:16] <american> How do I see the MB size of a directory in terminal?
[09:16] <JoshJWeaver> So if I don't have KDE installed, can I not use programs like KStars and stuff, because Gnome wont understand them?
[09:17] <mneptok> american: du -h /path/to
[09:17] <american> thanks
[09:17] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: nope, you can use them fine.
[09:17] <santi> i configured xorg.conf to run with fglrx driver. I have ATI X600.Exist another config that use xserver for run ? coz i cant run with direct rendering. Anyone know it ?
[09:17] <american> I tried ls -la, but it didn't help.  I couldn't understand the "size"
[09:17] <mneptok> american: du -h /path/to
[09:18] <SJ2000> Ubuntu Installer crashed and has now trashed my partitions
[09:18] <JoshJWeaver> mneptok: Oh, so, I don't get it.  I'll have to read about them to get my head around them, because all I can understand from what I've seen is they are like different themes or skins for Ubuntu
[09:18] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: not at all.
[09:18] <knoppix_> hi can someone please help me. i am really struggling with using ntfs-3g. i just want to copy the contents of one drive to another and then format that one drive to ex3.
[09:18] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: not quite true, but i can see where teh idea would come from
[09:19] <knoppix_> i have read loads of tutorials and faqs etc but i am not gripping it.
[09:19] <slv> maybe more like types of tableclothes, that come with their own sets of silverware and flatware
[09:19] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: a theme is an appearance. the GNOME/KDE differences go deeper than appearance.
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> I didn't think that was it, but that's all that I have been able to understand from what i have read
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: essentially, they're complete implementations of a "window Manager" idea
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: you have X, which is the actual graphical display
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> That's why I wanted to find a good site to read about it before i ask such dumb questiosn
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: just screen at a particular resolution and a mouse and keyboard
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> ya
[09:20] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: then you have "gnome" or "kde" or "xfce" or "joe'smomma"
[09:20] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: that put together their particular ideas of how a "desktop" should behave, and they usually have a themed set of tools to use that are bundled together
[09:20] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: i think it's safe to say that "if you don't understand the difference betwwen a window manager and a desktop environment, and you also don't easily grasp the differences between them you're *FAR* too early in your *nix career to care about such things."
[09:21] <slv> just use blackbox
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <qfour20> mneptok: true, but it bodes well for his *nix career that he's curious enough to ask
[09:21] <knoppix_> in ntfs-3g i am getting the error:  fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windows: No such file or directory
[09:21] <poningru> jeez guys can we keep the arguing to a low
[09:21] <knoppix_> any idea wtf i am doing wrong?
[09:21] <mneptok> qfour20: yeah, but let's start at the beginning. ;)
[09:22] <poningru> knoppix_: yeah make a directry /mnt/windows
[09:22] <h1st0> knoppix_: maybe /mnt/windows doesn't exist
[09:22] <JoshJWeaver> Well I am a very experienced PC user, but I have never had a chance to use Linux before, so I really know nothing about it
[09:22] <chindu> hi mneptok - am using WebSpy
[09:22] <SJ2000> How on earth did Ubuntu mess up my Windows installation when I *tried* to install it on an entirely different harddrive?
[09:22] <poningru> knoppix_: go into terminal and 'mkdir /mnt/windows' if that doesnt work add a sudo to the front
[09:22] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: there is no choice that you make right now that can't be modified or worked around later
[09:22] <h1st0> knoppix_: perhaps try creating it or creating /media/windows and mounting there.  ITs up to you.
[09:22] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: that makes you an experienced *Windows* user, not PC user. ;)
[09:22] <slv> josh, at this point don't worry about them, just use gnome
[09:22] <tieTYT2> if i use sysctl -w will the setting be saved on restart?
[09:22] <chindu> cappychan: chindu: do you know about the differences between windows and linux line breaks? - no sorry I don't
[09:22] <Telep> lollerispolleris
[09:22] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: just pick one that looks good to you and get started
[09:22] <tieTYT2> or is there some config file i'm supposed to save it in?
[09:22] <Telep> oops, wrong channel, again
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Ok, well, Very experience windows, moderately experienced PC user, I've been to ITT Tech and used computers since I was 3 and know how they all work inside
[09:23] <mneptok> chindu: what is WebSpy?
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Did not graduate ITT Tech though, so, I'm not really bragging too much about that
[09:23] <slv> lol
[09:23] <american> I know command line commands in Debian are very powerful.  How would I fine out the size of all the documents with a specific extention, like .doc, in a given directory tree.  I need to backup all the .doc files in "my documents" on an NTFS partition.
[09:23] <slv> couldn't get past the class on desktop environments? ;-) j/k
[09:23] <chindu> mneptok - it's a windows based bit  of log analysis software
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Anyway I wont even bother saying I'm smart cause you all know more than me I'm pretty sure, especially in this environment
[09:24] <h1st0> JoshJWeaver: Well if you want a windows friendly environment KDE is nice.  But you should be able to manage with gnome.
[09:24] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: perspective? when i was 3 we hadn't landed on the moon yet. ;)
[09:24] <qfour20> chindu: you tried unix2dos for the file?
[09:24] <arooni> how can i play back *wmv files in firefox
[09:24] <cappychan> chindu: on windows the line breaks (your ENTER button) are the characters CR LF, and on linux they are only LF
[09:24] <h1st0> american: you just want to list them all or find the size of them all?
[09:24] <JoshJWeaver> What I want is to actually learn how linux works and everything, and not have to rely on a GUI at all if I don't have to
[09:24] <mneptok> chindu: Windows is going to have issues with the line breaks in files generated on Unix(like) systems.
[09:24] <qfour20> chindu: taking a wild guess, i'd say sudo apt-get install unix2dos (or dostools or dosutils or some such)
[09:24] <arooni> also hwo can i do it when theyre on the desktop
[09:24] <chindu> hi qfour20 - not tried that - will have a read up on it.
[09:25] <american> Total size and list.  Individual size is unimportant.
[09:25] <SJ2000> Windows Wordpad likes Linux breaks
[09:25] <JoshJWeaver> But i'm just so accustomed to visually seeing everything, doing it all by typing is kinda weird to get used to. But I set up my wireless network by myself, mostly, so I'm getting there slowly
[09:25] <SJ2000> Unless you have Vista...
[09:25] <american> thanks for the help
[09:25] <thoreauputic> american: total size   -    du -sh *.doc
[09:25] <mneptok> chindu: also, the default UTF encoding in Ubuntu might not play well with Windows' archaic ISOLatin
[09:25] <chindu> wordpad will handle the line breaks ok but trouble is i'm starting with a 15Gb log file and grepping it down to 1Gb
[09:25] <thoreauputic> american: in the folder concerned of course
[09:25] <umop> JoshJWeaver, checkout http://art.gnome.org/
[09:26] <h1st0> thoreauputic: wont' that won't show him recursive .docs
[09:26] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Z-Shell-Conquering-Command/dp/1590593766/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6989673-7653633?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173169595&sr=8-1
[09:27] <thoreauputic> h1st0: hmm you might have a point there...
[09:27] <h1st0> thoreauputic: I think he is trying to search the whole windows partition for *.doc
[09:27] <SJ2000> I've found a bug in Ubuntu's installer, where is the tracker for that?
[09:27] <JoshJWeaver> Thank you both
[09:27] <arooni> how can i play back *wmv files in firefox
[09:27] <qfour20> chindu: apparently there's a different utility called "tofrodos"  try sudo apt-get install tofrodos
[09:27] <qfour20> chindu: i'm installing now to take a peek
[09:27] <cappychan> hah you beat me to it qfour20
[09:28] <thoreauputic> american:  the total size of a directory without listing is given by  du -sh
[09:28] <h1st0> american: something like ls -R /media/windows/*.doc
[09:28] <h1st0> I'm not sure what hte switch is for du to use it like that.
[09:28] <mneptok> american: sudo updatedb && locate .doc
[09:28] <thoreauputic> h1st0: that's a listing, yes
[09:28] <cappychan> chindu: once you have it installed you can do a "dos2unix logfile.log"
[09:28] <riaal> morning, where do I link to my alias file to make my alias permanent? (forgot)
[09:28] <chindu> qfour20 / cappychan - will have a read up on that. Thanks very much!
[09:29] <thoreauputic> riaal: usually ~/.bashrc
[09:29] <qfour20> chindu: todos filename << that should do it for ya
[09:29] <riaal> thoreauputic, great, thanks
[09:29] <h1st0> mneptok: locate won't search a mounted part.
[09:29] <thoreauputic> h1st0: umm, yes it will
[09:29] <chindu> qfour20 - is "todos" part of "tofrodos"
[09:30] <TM|AMD64> Hey all. I need help.
[09:30] <h1st0> thoreauputic: yeah if you configure it differently
[09:30] <thoreauputic> h1st0: did you mean a temporarily mounted part?
[09:30] <SJ2000> AHHHH! Ubuntu has totally trashed my partitions!
[09:30] <h1st0> thoreauputic: well my locate database doesn't containt the contents of /media/windows
[09:30] <SJ2000> It now can't even recognise them
[09:30] <qfour20> chindu: yes, it installs to and from utilities
[09:30] <nalpha> my usb device not recognized anyone can help me?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> SJ2000: that is extremely unlikely - I suggest you might have trashed them :)
[09:30] <nalpha> i'm try to use usb mouse and flash disk..
[09:30] <chindu> cool - just apt-getting it now. thank you.
[09:31] <SJ2000> It trashed my entire RAID
[09:31] <nalpha> last it can.. but after i restart in yesterday it won't work again.
[09:31] <SJ2000> How the heck could it do that?
[09:31] <h1st0> hrm.. how to do this.
[09:31] <american> Here's the deal:::  Computer won't boot.  Crashes at Mup.exe.  Safemode won't even start.  I am using Ubuntu LIVECD to talk to you now.  I am going to reinstall the whole thing.  It isn't my computer.  I want to email off the *.doc files if possible.  There is no space to install Ubuntu.  NTFS is taking the whole drive and it won't resize.  I have to use emule to download some of the specific programs the owner wants to have installed, cause no CD's exis
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> UBUNTU LIVE CD WON'T BOOT!
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> What do I do?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !caps
[09:32] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:32] <SJ2000> Check Bios settings for CD
[09:32] <posingaspopular> what do you mean it won't boot? wheredoes it stop?
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> yeah, it's all set.
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> 98se CD boots, but the live CD don't work.
[09:33] <SJ2000> Does it get past Splash screen after the ubuntu menu? Or does it even show up the menu?
[09:33] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Well did you check the media?
[09:33] <TM|AMD64> yep.,
[09:33] <qfour20> does it boot in another computer?
[09:33] <TM|AMD64> nope.
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Have you tried booting with noapic options?
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> if I don't use the startup floppy disk, it tries to boot from the cd's, then fails, THEN loads 98se.
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Ahh you need to change the bios so that cdrom is bootable first.
[09:34] <SJ2000> You are using an AMD64 right?
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> yep.
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> :)
[09:34] <riaal> do I need to relog to make changes in bashrc "work"? or is there some other way?
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Well then you haven't checked the media.  Were did you get the iso from?
[09:35] <american> Re-burn the CD TM|AMD64
[09:35] <american> :D
[09:35] <qfour20> riaal: kill -HUP the pid of the shell you're in
[09:35] <h1st0> american: I'm still trying to figure out a way to search the entire drive for .doc
[09:35] <riaal> qfour20, ?
[09:35] <TM|AMD64> Aust. PC User April '07.
[09:35] <h1st0> american: SOmeone else here might know of a better way.
[09:35] <american> thanks
[09:35] <TM|AMD64> v6.10
[09:35] <corevette> how do i grant myself read/write access to a folder?
[09:35] <riaal> qfour20,  whats -HUP flag?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> riaal:  source ~/.bashrc
[09:35] <qfour20> riaal: "hang up"
[09:35] <SJ2000> Anyway where was is the bug tracker for the Ubuntu installer
[09:35] <h1st0> mneptok: do you know how american could search his entire windows partition for .doc files?  locate won't search it.
[09:35] <american> chown?
[09:36] <qfour20> although thoreauputic's method is cleaner, i would guess
[09:36] <thoreauputic> qfour20: that's a bazooka approach :)
[09:36] <qfour20> pointed at my foot, no less.  my standard modus operandi
[09:36] <thoreauputic> kill -HUP is a bit extreme :)
[09:36] <h1st0> corevette: chown or chmod it.
[09:36] <h1st0> corevette: which folder do you want to change?
[09:36] <TM|AMD64> The board boots from OTHER bootable CD's, but NOT this one........
[09:36] <riaal> thoreauputic, do I need to kill it first?
[09:36] <thoreauputic> riaal: no
[09:37] <SJ2000> TM|AMD64: What software did you burn it with
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Yeah there is a problem with the cd.
[09:37] <qfour20> sounds like a bad cd.  have you considered counseling?
[09:37] <qfour20> did it have a rough childhood?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> riaal: just type  source ~/.bashrc
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: You may need to burn ig again try at a slower speed.
[09:37] <TM|AMD64> lol.
[09:37] <TM|AMD64> ok.
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: I would suggest like 4x
[09:37] <corevette> h1st0 /media/ipod-1/usr/lib
[09:37] <riaal> thoreauputic, nothing is hapening, maby my aliases thats messed up, one sec
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: nothing will appear to happen
[09:38] <h1st0> corevette: why do you need to change that directories read/write?
[09:38] <american> Again, I am on Ubuntu Live, mounted hda1 at /home/ubuntu/Desktop/hda1/
[09:38] <h1st0> corevette: oh its a mount.
[09:38] <riaal> thoreauputic, I know but the aliases isn't loaded
[09:38] <TM|AMD64> what does the bios open to load everything. E.G. Win98SE opens COMMAND.COM first, the HIMEM, etc.
[09:38] <american> I think "locate" worked?  unsure
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: but your aliases should now work unless you made a mistake entering them in .bashrc
[09:38] <h1st0> american: did you just locate .doc
[09:38] <riaal> thoreauputic,  hm.. ?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: I just append aliases in the file itself
[09:39] <american> no.  I did sudo updatedb && locate *.doc
[09:39] <r4nge> is c++ used for any linux programs or is most c?  just browsing the source code for most shell utilities and everything is c
[09:39] <h1st0> american: cuz when I do that it only searches my linux drive.
[09:39] <riaal> thoreauputic, I put them in a separet file
[09:39] <thoreauputic> riaal: then you need to source that file in ~/.bashrc
[09:39] <h1st0> corevette: What is moutnign yoru ipod there? some software?
[09:39] <american> How would I output "sudo updatedb && locate *.doc" to a file?
[09:39] <h1st0> corevette: Because you should actually change the optoins when its being mounted so you can read/write there.
[09:39] <SJ2000> Can someone give me a link to a recovery guide after a failed Ubuntu install?
[09:40] <corevette> h1st0 first off.....its ipod linux...second off...what is it
[09:40] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:40] <posingaspopular> !install
[09:40] <h1st0> american: >
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:40] <omeil> can someone help me install cdemu? i seem to be getting an error when i type make
[09:40] <SJ2000> thankyou
[09:40] <h1st0> american: locate *.doc > list.txt
[09:40] <riaal> thoreauputic, think I did, there was alredy a commented link, so I just uncommented it
[09:40] <h1st0> american: you only need to updatedb once that just updates the database
[09:40] <omeil> !paste
[09:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> riaal: *shrug* I just add all my aliases to the file at the bottom of ~/.bashrc
[09:41] <Joshooa> Would anyone recommend the official Ubuntu book, or is it not too good, just okay? Anyone know?
[09:41] <corevette> h1st0...so are you able to tell me or no
[09:41] <posingaspopular> Joshooa: the official is good
[09:41] <posingaspopular> from what im told
[09:41] <thoreauputic> riaal: if you do it differently you have to tell .bashrc where to look I guess :)
[09:42] <american> I have never updatedb before.  I don't know what it does exactly.
[09:42] <riaal> thoreauputic, think I did that =) are you running ubuntu drapper/edgy?
[09:42] <h1st0> corevette: someone already told you just chown corevette /media/ipod/whatever....
[09:42] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:42] <qfour20> riaal: the bazooka works, man.  shell restarts after reading .bashrc
[09:42] <h1st0> corevette: well sudo chown corvette
[09:42] <thoreauputic> american: it updates the "locate" database so locate can find stuff
[09:42] <SJ2000> I've gone through the installation problems, nothing there is relevant to my problem
[09:42] <riaal> qfour20, ? =P
[09:42] <mneptok> american: locate .doc > ~/results.txt
[09:42] <american> ok :D
[09:42] <h1st0> american: it updates the slocate database basically indexes all your files.
[09:42] <corevette> h1st0...just 'sudo chown /whatever/whatever'  ???
[09:42] <american> Cool.
[09:43] <thoreauputic> american: normally that happens daily from a cron job, automatically
[09:43] <h1st0> mneptok: my slocate doesn't do my windows mount for somereason.
[09:43] <qfour20> riaal: my suggestion of "kill -HUP $PID" for the shell your'e in was referred to as the "bazooka approach"
[09:43] <thoreauputic> american: but on a live CD of course you have to run it manually
[09:43] <h1st0> mneptok: /media/Windows isn't hit by locate right now?
[09:43] <qfour20> but it would actually work, in this case
[09:43] <dromer> hi, how can I make an .iso out of a dvd?
[09:43] <h1st0> thoreauputic: ^^^^^^  on a normal system it doesn't search /media/Windows
[09:43] <american> I have hda1 mounted to my desktop
[09:43] <mneptok> h1st0: filesystem?
[09:43] <american> maybe that helps?
[09:44] <h1st0> mneptok: ntfs
[09:44] <thoreauputic> qfour20: only if he put his aliases where they can be found :)
[09:44] <riaal> qfour20, okey, do I need to restart it after?
[09:44] <corevette> h1st0 what do i put after chown
[09:44] <h1st0> corevette: your username
[09:44] <thoreauputic> h1st0: a system with /media/windows isn't normal ;p
[09:44] <qfour20> oh, if they're not being found, then nevermind
[09:44] <omeil> This is what i get when i type make so i can compile cdemu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8897/
[09:44] <h1st0> corevette: the username that you want to have read/write.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> h1st0: sorry, couldn't resist :)
[09:44] <h1st0> thoreauputic: lol
[09:44] <h1st0> thoreauputic: The wife insists
[09:45] <h1st0> thoreauputic: But I don't use it.
[09:45] <thoreauputic> h1st0: ah, I see
[09:45] <thoreauputic> h1st0: I believe you - thousands wouldn't ;)
[09:45] <chindu> hi qfour20 - ran "todos logfile.w3c" but it still isn't right. Whe i try to load it in webspy it says "Found only 1 fields, was expecting more than 21". It shows the square symbol between each field on each line of the log. Have I done something wrong?
[09:45] <american> Ok, I have a list.txt on my desktop of what seems to be all the *.doc files on the system.  How would I now find the total size of the files located in the file list.txt.
[09:45] <american> The du command before didn't give me a total.
[09:45] <h1st0> omeil: did you get errors when you .configure ?
[09:46] <h1st0> omeil: err configed it.
[09:46] <qfour20> chindu: well, not "wrong" per se, but there's gotta be some option that we should be using instead
[09:46] <american> The file is fairly small.
[09:46] <h1st0> mneptok: its ntfs filesystem didn't know if updatedb was ignoring it for somereason by default or what but it definately doesn't index it.
[09:46] <chindu> qfour20 - i'll have a read a mo - thanks
[09:46] <qfour20> chindu: apparently, it now knows the characters in the file are correct, but it's disliking what is likely to be tabs or just whitespace in the files.
[09:46] <american> I wonder if this owner of this computer used another extention, but I doubt it.
[09:46] <omeil> u can't configure cdemu
[09:47] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:47] <SJ2000> I have IT8212 PATA RAID with another SATA RAID and the Ubuntu install has corrupted all my partitions and MBR's on each drive in the arrays
[09:47] <h1st0> omeil: well i'm not familiar witht he program so didn't know.
[09:47] <h1st0> omeil: perhaps consult the person who wrote it.
[09:47] <chindu> qfour20 - i believe they are tabs
[09:47] <omeil> hmm
[09:47] <corevette> how do i copy a directory
[09:47] <omeil> ok then thx
[09:47] <h1st0> corevette: the contents? or the whole thing?
[09:48] <corevette> the whole thing h1st0
[09:48] <american> Use the move command to move a directory.  I think cp will copy it.
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: cp /whatever ~/newlocation
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: cp -R /wahtever ~/newlocation
[09:48] <corevette> h1st0 -R?
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: or just drag the folder with nautilus
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: should be recursive switch.
[09:48] <american> AH
[09:49] <h1st0> corevette: means it will copy the directories inside of that one.
[09:49] <h1st0> corevette: you also have to make sure the destination directory exists as well.
[09:49] <riaal> is there any command or program to see the hdd temps?
[09:49] <eck> riaal: try poking around in /proc
[09:50] <american> Is there a way to do a batch move command?   I have list.txt with the list of all the *.doc files.....I want all of them moved to the same place.  Is there a way to do that?
[09:50] <riaal> eck, ?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> riaal:  hddtemp
[09:50] <mneptok> american: of course. but it might require some good regex-fu.
[09:50] <riaal> thoreauputic, great, thanks
[09:50] <thoreauputic> !hddtemp
[09:50] <eck> riaal: e.g. look in /proc/acpi
[09:50] <ubotu> hddtemp: Utility to monitor the temperature of your hard drive. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-beta15-29 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 260 kB
[09:50] <american> Sorry for the hard questions....I know Debian is STRONG and can do just about anything.
[09:51] <eck> riaal: all of your hardware information (and a lot of kernel settings) can be changed or checked by looking in /proc
[09:51] <american> what is regex-fu?
[09:51] <thoreauputic> american: deep guru magic with regular expressions :)
[09:51] <riaal> eck, cool, thanks
[09:51] <keith> I have an ati 9000 anyone know if I can use tv out and watch video on my tv while working on my monitor?
[09:51] <h1st0> american: do you just want to cp all docs on windows part?
[09:52] <h1st0> american: cuz that would be a lot easier than using the list.txt created.
[09:52] <eck> for example, i can see my hdd and mobo temperature by cat'ing /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal
[09:52] <TM|AMD64|BBIAS> keith: dunno, MIGHT be able to, but probably not. I tried with my 9200SE, and I couldn't do it.
[09:52] <metal03> Small question...  what's the difference between .rpm or .tar.gz ?  And what am I using on Ubuntu?
[09:53] <corevette> h1st0, last question, how do you delete a directory
[09:53] <posingaspopular> metal03: you are using .deb
[09:53] <eck> !software | metal03
[09:53] <ubotu> metal03: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[09:53] <posingaspopular> .tar.gz is compression
[09:53] <posingaspopular> .rpm is for red hat linux
[09:53] <posingaspopular> iirc
[09:53] <thoreauputic> metal03: neither, and it depends - Ubuntu uses .deb which is similar to rpm (package manager)
[09:53] <eck> metal03: that page will explain package management in a lot of detail, including these differences
[09:53] <h1st0> corevette: rm -rf /directoryname
[09:53] <american> h1st0....yeah that would work.  I want to cp all the *.doc files into a collective group.
[09:53] <omeil> is there any other way to open .cue flies?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> metal03: tar.gz is often but not necessarily source code
[09:53] <omeil> files
[09:54] <omeil> !cue
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <riaal> man Im really starting to like linux, if it works it WORKS.. wonderfull
[09:54] <american> corevette: rmdir (be careful)
[09:54] <h1st0> american: yeah mneptok could probably help you with that one.
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !bchunk | omeil
[09:54] <ubotu> omeil: bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:54] <metal03> I'm trying to install Adobe Reader...  and they propose .rpm and .tar.gz !  Any advises?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !acroread
[09:54] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:54] <ALL4N> hey, to get a list of files/folders in a directory, I use ls -l, but I find all the other information such as time modified, group, owner etc not necessary.. is it possible to do ls -l without all those?  I prefer showing them in a list btw, so ls alone is not ok
[09:54] <american> metal03: use automatix or some other program.
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: no
[09:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: NO ATUMATIX BAD
[09:55] <metal03> lol
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: just install the acroread from the repos
[09:55] <thoreauputic> american: please don't recommend automatix
[09:55] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:55] <american> I have had no trouble with Automatix and this is the first time I have heard of any.
[09:55] <metal03> sudo get-apt install acroread ???
[09:55] <metal03> like that?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> american: see !worksforme
[09:56] <american> k
[09:56] <thoreauputic> !worksforme | american
[09:56] <ubotu> american: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:56] <eshaase> if i install feisty right now with a net-install and the release comes out in a month, will doing a 'apt-get upgrade' after the release bring my system up-to-date as if i had intalled using the feisty release cd?
[09:56] <ALL4N> aha: ls -1
[09:56] <omeil> thoreauputic: do you know how to use bchunk? i wanna convert /home/omeil/quake3/quake3arena.cue
[09:56] <h1st0> eshaase: yes
[09:57] <eshaase> h1st0: excellent, ok, thanks!
[09:57] <thoreauputic> omeil: never needed to use it, sorry
[09:57] <american> I don't blindly install everything automatix has.  I only use a few things.  I'll check out that other one.
[09:57] <omeil> its ok
[09:57] <eck> umop: do you have terabyte sized files?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> omeil: i just know it exists :)
[09:57] <h1st0> So the question is how does american cp all his .doc's on /mountpoint/windows over?
[09:57] <eck> umop: for 8kb blocks (the default in ext3) the file size limit is 2 TB
[09:58] <h1st0> cp -R *.doc /mountpoint/hda1 ????
[09:58] <umop> eck, thanks, it must be something else
[09:58] <eck> umop: what is the problem?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> h1st0: maybe something like   for doc in $(ls -R /media/windows) ; do cp $doc ; done
[09:58] <h1st0> cp -R *.doc /mountpoint/hda1 /desination/
[09:58] <umop> eck, I bet it's samba.. IM copying largish files from one computer to another
[09:59] <h1st0> thoreauputic: shouldn't be that difficult.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: but that was just off the top of my head so it's probably wrong
[09:59] <eshaase> is there really that much of a differnce between edgy and feisty? they use the same gnome release so i figure it can't be that big of a difference
[09:59] <eck> umop: if you can, you're much better off using rsync, losing data in the middle of the transfer won't waste the whole thing
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: actually that doesn'r find the .docs either
[09:59] <Madpilot> metal03, adobe reader is in Ubuntu's Multiverse repo - just look for it in Add/Remove...
[09:59] <feng> any one had installed borland together on ubuntu(feisty)?
[09:59] <umop> eck, true.  I'll do that now.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: that would require another bit...
[10:00] <Madpilot> !info acroread
[10:00] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:00] <umop> eck, I was getting error File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" I just assumed it to be the filesystem
[10:00] <metal03> Madpilot : in Synaptic?
[10:00] <Madpilot> metal03, there too, but it is in Add/Remove
[10:00] <h1st0> thoreauputic: there has to be an easier way to do this I believe.
[10:00] <h1st0> feng: try #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <omeil> !iso
[10:01] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:01] <thoreauputic> h1st0: well it would be easy if all the .docs were in one directory I suppose
[10:02] <american> I know what to do.   I already seem to have the list of all of them.  I just need to add "cp" in front of it and the destination at the end with a semi-colon.  Then copy the whole thing into a terminal.   Yeah, brute force method.   But it would work.   Wish I had the elegant way of doing it.
[10:03] <umop> american, could easily write a script to do that.
[10:03] <h1st0> thoreauputic: maybe cpio
[10:03] <h1st0> thoreauputic: nvm
[10:03] <MarkCh> help! why does kde notification area/system tray apps not dock on ubuntu's system tray in my desktop?
[10:03] <eck> american: there are like 100 ways to do this :-)
[10:03] <american> I bet
[10:03] <eck> american: the easiest way is just to use globbing in the shell
[10:04] <eck> or else find
[10:04] <eck> off the top of my head, something like this: find . -name "*.doc" -exec cp {} /somewhere/else\;
[10:05] <javi_> hola
[10:05] <american> I'll try that
[10:05] <tuxcrafter> hi guys how do i restore the default values for the ubuntu init.d sripts S0 to S6
[10:05] <eck> this executes cp (filename) /somewhere/else for each *.doc file find comes across
[10:05] <american> Wish I knew all the elegent ways.
[10:05] <american> thanks
[10:06] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter:  update-rc.d  ( but I think that is for individual apps rather than all )
[10:06] <susscorfa> hi does any one know how to fix when modprobe fglrx returns FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx i installed theme fromt the repositorys
[10:07] <eck> find is one of the most powerful commands in unix/linux, but it is also one of the least user friendly :-(
[10:07] <eck> the man page is like 1000 lines
[10:07] <tuxcrafter> thoreauputic: yes i know of update-rc.d but i need to restore ALL the default values of the ubuntu init script system
[10:08] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: right - I don't know then
[10:08] <american> eck: says there is an error in exec.  missing argument
[10:08] <tuxcrafter> someone that can help me
[10:08] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: sounds pretty drastic - I think something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  might do it but I'm not sure
[10:09] <eck> american: try quoting the {}
[10:09] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: that also reconfigures *everything*
[10:09] <american> ok
[10:09] <american> trying that
[10:09] <eck> e.g. 'find . *.doc -exec cp {} /somewhere/else ;'
[10:09] <eck> err, you need the -name thing
[10:09] <domster> american: or, try spliting the thing into two commands. try the find until you know that works, then pipe it to xargs
[10:10] <Nerv> llo
[10:10] <Nerv> hello my name ist ner net
[10:10] <Robinsjostrom> hello ner net!
[10:11] <Nerv> Robisonstorm English or Deutsch
[10:11] <Nerv> ?
[10:11] <h1st0_> ?
[10:11] <h1st0_> wow got bounced
[10:11] <kalorin> !?
[10:12] <sprking> ?
[10:12] <kalorin> !
[10:12] <sprking> :)
[10:12] <TM|AMD64|BBIAS> !?
[10:12] <kalorin> punctuation warz!
[10:12] <h1st0_> !fglrx
[10:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <TM|AMD64> @#!@@
[10:12] <kalorin> anyone running on a core duo chip yet?
[10:12] <h1st0_> kalorin: my friend is.
[10:12] <american> fine seems to be fine.  the '-exec' is missing an argument it says.
[10:13] <Jowi> kalorin, yeah. coe duo here (not core 2 duo)
[10:13] <kalorin> h1st0, working well?
[10:13] <american> wait.  The connection between find and 'exec' is the problem.
[10:13] <Nerv> Wer ist kann Deutsch Bitte melden ich kann nmlich nicht English und plus brauche ich hilfe in Ubuntu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:13] <h1st0_> kalorin: for the most part.  He is running fiesty though so....
[10:13] <kalorin> thinking about upgrading to one
[10:13] <Jowi> kalorin, core duo (32 bit) is excellent
[10:13] <h1st0_> !de | Nerv
[10:13] <ubotu> Nerv: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:13] <kalorin> cool
[10:13] <kalorin> just thinking it would really go nicely
[10:14] <h1st0_> kalorin: yeah that would be the way to go core duo 32bit.
[10:14] <Jowi> kalorin, running ubuntu on a intel mac mini here. it flies.
[10:14] <h1st0_> Something with VT could be cool as well.
[10:14] <TM|AMD64> MACS, it's just SO sad.
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Jowi> TM|AMD64, it's excellent hardware. That's what I bought it for. no OSX on it :)
[10:15] <susscorfa> h1st0_: the thing i could conclude fromt the wiki is that i should compile my own drivers while i just whant them from the repository
[10:15] <Askar> Hi! Where can I download royale.msstyles or luna.msstyles?
[10:15] <kalorin> i'm installing IE on my system
[10:15] <h1st0_> susscorfa: just install the ones from the repo then?
[10:16] <kalorin> Internet Extortion!
[10:16] <susscorfa> ye but these give this modprobe problem
[10:16] <TM|AMD64> Intelligence Extraction!
[10:16] <h1st0_> kalorin: I have an XP virtual machine that works quite nicely.
[10:16] <susscorfa> i describe so i wonderd if there is a other way to solve it than compile them
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: yeah just use the ones from the repos.
[10:17] <TM|AMD64> nice name! :)
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: perhaps you are missing a step.
[10:17] <american> find outputs the files, but not the whole path.
[10:17] <tuxcrafter> i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure initscripts but it dit not work
[10:17] <american> I think exec cp on locate.
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: what video card do you ahve exactly?  Make sure you are following the proper instructions in the wiki.
[10:18] <susscorfa> x700 ati
[10:18] <eck> american: the full path is replaced in {}
[10:18] <eck> american: look at xargs
[10:18] <kalorin> h1st0, yeah but I saw a tip that says that photoshop elements might install if IE was on there for it to use
[10:18] <kalorin> like natively
[10:18] <kalorin> I have the vmware XP there as well, figured I'd try this
[10:19] <kalorin> haahaha
[10:19] <kalorin> too funny
[10:19] <kalorin> IE running on X
[10:19] <h1st0_> kalorin: well there is gimp shop as well.  That supports 99% of ps's pluggins
[10:19] <ForgeAus> kal? whats funny about ies4linux?
[10:19] <kalorin> it's like that ohio state michigan commercial with the two kids on the couch making out with thier respective Tshirts on
[10:19] <kalorin> nah just the idea of running ie on linux
[10:20] <omeil> people for iso mounting and iso conversion i recommend you run isobuster through wine :D it woiks very good
[10:20] <kalorin> h1st0, I own elements
[10:20] <joyoftech> whoa IE ON LINUX ftw
[10:20] <ForgeAus> its like having two computers one windows machine running firefox and the other a linux machine running ie! :)
[10:20] <eck> omeil: yes, but isos can be mounted natively in linux :-)
[10:20] <eck> (and encoded natively)
[10:20] <kalorin> h1st0, you know what's funny is that the main issue that I have is .dng files
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omeil:  sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point
[10:21] <athlon> is there a DVD iso one can download which contains packages for edgy ?
[10:21] <kalorin> you'd think of all the OS's out there, adobe says lets me a digital negative open standard, adn everyone does it but linux
[10:21] <kalorin> I'm sure it'll come but I would have thought it'd have been one of the first
[10:21] <omeil> ok iso's or other type of image file :D :P
[10:21] <umop> eck, I am having no joy with copying these files..Got any other suggestions?
[10:21] <omeil> bin/img/ccd/cue/mdf hmm u name it
[10:21] <frying_fish> by adobe's digital standards, don't you mean a closed source thing... and something they try to sell.
[10:22] <kalorin> nah it's an open standard
[10:22] <craigp84> hi all, anyone know where hotplug went to in edgy? looking in /etc/hotplug, but that dirs no longer there, i vaguely recall it's been replaced by something else... udev?
[10:22] <kalorin> kind of like pdf
[10:22] <kalorin> adobe digital negative
[10:22] <eck> athlon: use rsync to grab the archive mirror
[10:22] <joyoftech> is ubuntu and xubuntu the same but xubuntu uses smaller resources right?
[10:22] <kalorin> it's so that sony and canon and nikon and everyone else cna just use one file format
[10:22] <kalorin> joyoftech, my understanding is that
[10:22] <athlon> eck: dont have internet at home
[10:22] <kalorin> I'm runnin xubuntu
[10:22] <eck> umop: i think it might be an advanced option, with TCP the sequence numbers will roll around eventually and this could cause problems if you are copying really, really big files
[10:23] <umop> eck, hmm
[10:23] <eck> i could see this tripping up a program
[10:23] <joyoftech> is xbuntu stable as ubuntu, im just curious
[10:23] <joyoftech> or better?
[10:24] <omeil> uses less resources
[10:24] <ForgeAus> I'd hazard that ubuntu is more stable
[10:24] <eck> athlon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[10:24] <eck> you would still need to download it though...
[10:24] <ForgeAus> but I could be easily wrong
[10:24] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/media/cdrom0$ Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:24] <kalorin> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:24] <kalorin> any thoughts?
[10:24] <ForgeAus> kalorin you need a symbolic link
[10:24] <ForgeAus> probably
[10:25] <ForgeAus> from where the modules/dri directory is (prolly somewhere under usr/share or something... to somewhere like /usr/X11/lib or something...
[10:25] <eck> umop: i know FTP can support arbitrarily large files
[10:26] <ForgeAus> I can't quite give you the correct folders/directories because my kubuntu isn't quite working right now
[10:26] <craigp84> found hotplug replacement... /etc/udev/rules.d/90-modprobe.rules
[10:26] <umop> eck, Yeah, I have a couple of ideas I may try.  Annoyed now, I'll leave it for a bit :)
[10:26] <ALEX1> rofl ubuntu!
[10:26] <kalorin> hrms.. install failed like normal
[10:26] <eck> umop: also, check your ulimits
[10:26] <kalorin> disappointing
[10:26] <ALEX1> so when are all my professional apps going to work in linux?
[10:26] <umop> eck, have done, they are all unlimited
[10:27] <kalorin> ok so I'm running a vmware server XP instance
[10:27] <kalorin> I guess there's really no way to set up a shared file area is there?
[10:28] <kalorin> best thing possible would be to run a samba share or something?
[10:28] <kalorin> and have it mount that as a drive letter over the internal network riht?
[10:29] <Wuffi600> hi.
[10:29] <omeil> ffs, evertime i try to run quake 3 arena it always stuffs up...its saying can't find default.cfg anyone?
[10:29] <TM|AMD64> what
[10:29] <ALEX1> hey
[10:29] <TM|AMD64> 's the prob, Wuffi600?
[10:29] <ALEX1> i want to install ubuntu
[10:29] <sprking> 
[10:29] <ALEX1> i need to know if i can use Photoshop, Cubase
[10:29] <eck> umop: you might also try writing to a server mailing list (e.g. redhat-list) and seeing what people are using to copy really big files, i'm sure they would have the best advice for something that works and is efficent
[10:29] <ALEX1> and all my professional apps i use in the studio
[10:29] <ALEX1> and play games
[10:30] <klimraamkosie> I shared a directory on my one ubuntu PC with NFS, How do I reach it with another on on the same network??
[10:30] <umop> eck, good idea, will do.
[10:30] <Wuffi600> In what file is a good place to add lines "export http_proxy=proxy.mydomain:8080" and "export ftp_proxy=proxy.mydomain:8080" that it will affect systemwide to all users?
[10:31] <athlon> *sniffle* ubuntu officially sucks for those without internet connection
[10:31] <pingpongboss> ...?
[10:31] <bcochofel> ok, I need to install crossvc, where can I get a repo for this?
[10:31] <pingpongboss> then how are u on here..
[10:31] <Askar> !ssh
[10:31] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:31] <athlon> comp lab
[10:31] <arfy> dood, gentoo sucks worse, at least for installing from minimal cd's
[10:31] <eck> Wuffi600: use iptables
[10:31] <pingpongboss> oh dang.. well, everything sucks when u don't have internet :P
[10:31] <arfy> without net
[10:32] <athlon> every instruction in wiki reads like, go do "sudo aptitude install <bla bla>"
[10:32] <arfy> pingpongboss: true that
[10:32] <eck> afaik it is only possible to do with iptables or a hardware router
[10:32] <omeil> Can anyone help me with thise quake 3 issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8904/
[10:32] <cyphase> How would you guys describe Linux in 2002 compared to Linux now?
[10:32] <Wuffi600> eck: ok, i see.
[10:32] <crimsun> athlon: your cdrom repository is active by default, too.
[10:32] <thoreauputic> cyphase: night and day
[10:33] <Wuffi600> eck: thank you.
[10:33] <eck> Wuffi600: np
[10:33] <cyphase> i want something really strong
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cyphase: so much was still clunky in 2002
[10:33] <TM|AMD64> arfy: 20002?
[10:33] <arfy> particularly for blind/visually impared uses, not now.
[10:33] <cyphase> thoreauputic: i know, i'm just writing an email, and i want to get the point across that linux has come a looong way from 2002
[10:33] <emudem> hola
[10:33] <athlon> crimsun: yeah I installed all of them. I dunno why they dont put more softwares in it. The iso is only 3.6GB or so, theres more than 1GB free space left
[10:34] <arfy> 20002? lol
[10:34] <emudem> any spanish?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> arfy: can we have your time machine ? ;-)
[10:34] <TM|AMD64> gtg.
[10:34] <thoreauputic> !es
[10:34] <pingpongboss> anyone know any good ubuntu blogs?
[10:34] <arfy> the emacs reerse-time function lol
[10:34] <CheshireViking> !es > emudem
[10:34] <emudem> i'm spanish and i want use proxy for kubuntu
[10:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:34] <arfy> reverse
[10:34] <eck> i bet in 20002 X11 will have perfect autodetection
[10:34] <eck> it will be awesome
[10:34] <pingpongboss> i've seen a bunch, but they all got low comment counts
[10:35] <arfy> that's if we don't die in 2012. lol
[10:35] <emudem> in ubuntu-es , kubuntu-es no people
[10:37] <Askar> Hi! I can connect to my computer over SSH if I am using the same network. How do I do if I am using another network than my computer?
[10:37] <neildarlow> anyone using gimp on feisty?
[10:37] <emudem> howto proxy in kubuntu??
[10:37] <klimraamkosie> NFS: How do I access an NFS share on another PC
[10:37] <bcochofel> anyone, ubuntu 6.10 doesn't come with crossvc, where can I find it?
[10:38] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: is it exported on the other system?
[10:38] <emudem> howto proxy in kubuntu, where can I find it?
[10:38] <gyaresu> Askar: Do you want to access your computer from the interweb?
[10:38] <xipietotec_> !raid
[10:38] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:38] <cpk1> anyone know how to be able to type japanese characters?
[10:38] <gyaresu> !jp
[10:38] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[10:38] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: is it exported?
[10:38] <klimraamkosie> I don't know what that means
[10:38] <arfy> wo
[10:39] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: you need to provide an entry in /etc/exports on the serving system
[10:39] <gyaresu> !nfs
[10:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:39] <cpk1> gyaresu: yes thats nice; but I am an english native speaker, I would like to be able to type in japanese characters however
[10:39] <tschaka> Askar open the port (should be 22) on ur router.
[10:40] <gyaresu> cpk1: From the keyboard? Then you need the layout changed.
[10:40] <gyaresu> !keyboard | cpk1
[10:40] <ubotu> cpk1: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:40] <thoreauputic> cpk1: maybe System -Preferences - SCIM Input
[10:40] <sprking> itsprok
[10:40] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: checking that
[10:40] <neildarlow> is there a channel to discuss feisty testing?
[10:41] <gyaresu> cpk1: Do you have the characters on your keyboard. If not then you could use a char input prog. Is that what you mean?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> neildarlow: #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <neildarlow> thoreauputic: thanks
[10:41] <cpk1> gyaresu: yes, i suppose so
[10:41] <v4m21> opensuse has graphical virtual consoles is there any way to get graphics mode virtual consoles in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: there is an entry there
[10:41] <sprking> it spoke 2 me
[10:41] <v4m21> and knoppix also has these type of virtual consoles.
[10:42] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: then you should be able to mount the share using "mount -t nfs ..." see the docs
[10:42] <gyaresu> cpk1: ' apt-cache search japanese |grep -i input' There seems to be a lot.
[10:42] <gyaresu> klimraamkosie: Did you 'sudo exportfs -a' from the server?
[10:42] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: or use one of the network browsers on your desktop
[10:43] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: I've only tried the network browser, and that only shows windows network
[10:44] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: I'll try mount -t nfs?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> klimraamkosie: nfs mount points show in the Computer place in Nautilus
[10:45] <thoreauputic> klimraamkosie: assuming that nfs is properly configured of course :)
[10:46] <sysuser> hi, I installed proftpd via synaptic I configured it but now on startup I have to deactivate and activate it to make it work
[10:46] <sysuser> does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:46] <ekul1> I have set up gaim to connect to 2 IRC servers.. this freenode one opens, and stupid question -- but how do i get to the other?
[10:46] <klimraamkosie> hmm right
[10:46] <klimraamkosie> i should probably get it configured on this pc haha lets see
[10:47] <otwr> not for me thoreau... i'm on kubuntu but i basically had to mount manually. I can share an fstab entry that seems to work
[10:48] <igge> is there a way to define keyboard macros in gedit?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> otwr: I use nfs and set entries in fstab - but nautilus will put entries there on right click to share too
[10:49] <thoreauputic> otwr: the mounted dirs show in Computer
[10:49] <thoreauputic> otwr: you can also have icons on the desktop - I prefer not to
[10:50] <ekul1> does anyone know how to install the emu10k1 alsa driver things?
[10:51] <apallo> java won't work in my firefox, even though i installed it
[10:51] <susscorfa> hi does any one know how to fix when modprobe fglrx returns FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx i installed theme fromt the repositorys
[10:51] <thoreauputic> apallo:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:51] <igge> apollo: did you try with automatix?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> apallo: and have you installed the plugin package?
[10:52] <gyaresu> ekul1: 'modprobe -l |grep emu10k1' will tell you if you have it.
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[10:52] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:52] <thoreauputic> igge: don't recommned automatix please
[10:52] <ekul1> thanks gyaresu
[10:53] <igge> oops... ok won't do that.. it's always worked fine for me though...
[10:53] <gyaresu> !works for me | igge
[10:53] <ubotu> igge: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:53] <apallo> where can i get it?
[10:53] <gyaresu> :)
[10:53] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: heh beat me to it :)
[10:53] <^rob^> hello
[10:53] <apallo> the plugin thingy
[10:54] <ekul1> says/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1-synth.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/oss/emu10k1/emu10k1.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/input/gameport/emu10k1-gp.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> sorry for flood
[10:54] <gyaresu> !pastebin | ekul1
[10:54] <ubotu> ekul1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:54] <ekul1> Thanks :)
[10:54] <^rob^> i am trying to install mysql server-4.1 from deb package and i get
[10:54] <^rob^> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:54] <^rob^>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ekul1: don't do that
[10:54] <^rob^> what the heck is that?
[10:55] <bcochofel> can I use feisty repo with edgy?
[10:55] <^rob^> i did apt-get clean - redo the procedure - same error
[10:55] <ekul1> don't what?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> ekul1: flood
[10:55] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Can I ask why from a deb package?
[10:55] <ekul1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8906/plain/ in non-flooding form
[10:56] <thoreauputic> ekul1: you notice I removed the gag when I saw your apology :)
[10:56] <gyaresu> !feisty | bcochofel
[10:56] <ubotu> bcochofel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <apallo> thoreauputic:where do i get plugin package?
[10:56] <^rob^> gyaresu: i mean ubuntu repo
[10:56] <ekul1> thanks thoreauputic, now i know how to paste terminal code in chat -- wont happen again :0
[10:56] <ekul1> :) rather
[10:56] <thoreauputic> apallo: install sun-java5-plugin
[10:56] <apallo> ty
[10:57] <^rob^> damn - i closed the window - sorry
[10:57] <^rob^> so - back to my mysql problem - can somebody help?
[10:57] <ekul1> wb
[10:57] <gyaresu> ^rob^: so you want to add feisty repo to edgy right?
[10:57] <^rob^> feisty?
[10:57] <bill-nz> can someone help me with an NVidia driver problem?
[10:57] <bcochofel> it was me not ^rob^
[10:58] <bcochofel> I need crossvc and I can't find it under edgy
[10:58] <ekul1> bill-nz do you have Envy? fixed all my problems
[10:58] <gyaresu> ^rob^: bcochofel K. So rob why are you  installing from a .deb and why does bcochofel need a feisty repo?
[10:59] <sledgeas> hello
[10:59] <^rob^> gyaresu: I AM INSTALLING WITH APT-GET!! grr
[10:59] <gyaresu> !welcome | sledgeas
[10:59] <ubotu> sledgeas: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[10:59] <^rob^> i think the deb is messed...
[10:59] <bcochofel> gyaresu: I need feisty because crossvc
[10:59] <sledgeas> how to have beta versions in ubuntu edgy? what repositories should go in (e.g., to use openoffice 2.2.0 a.s.on)
[11:00] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Right so you apt-get removed  and then apt-cache clean'd and still no joy.
[11:00] <^rob^> yes
[11:00] <^rob^> apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 i get the same err.
[11:00] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Yeah but before clean. Did you do 'remove'.
[11:00] <^rob^> Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.0 to 4.1.
[11:00] <^rob^> ha
[11:01] <^rob^> i thik i need --force-all
[11:01] <ekul1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8906/plain/ does this mean emu10k1 is installed?
[11:02] <gyaresu> ekul1: No. Just that you have the modules. To see if it's installed do 'sudo lsmod |grep emu10k1'
[11:03] <^rob^> same shit.
[11:03] <ekul1> thanks gyaresu
[11:03] <^rob^> ubprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:03] <gyaresu> ^rob^: apt-get -f install ??
[11:03] <^rob^> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:03] <^rob^> i don't have a dependency problem
[11:04] <^rob^> i'll install 5.0 then
[11:04] <ekul1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8907/plain/ sorry, i assume that means its not installed?
[11:04] <tuxcrafter> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a fixed my problem be aware it it a last resort solution and dangerous, thank guys
[11:05] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Lot's of google links. I assume you've seen?
[11:05] <sledgeas> how to install e.g. openoffice 2.2 beta?
[11:05] <posingaspopular> !paste
[11:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:05] <sledgeas> what kind of repositories should be enabled (backports, unstable, testing -- which ones?)
[11:05] <^rob^> it seems ubuntu ain't debian any more - edgy is messing up with good packages - smells like RedHat - i'll uninstall and go back to my old debian distro
[11:05] <gyaresu> ^rob^: That's the spirit!
[11:06] <dcordes> ^rob^: what good packages do you miss?
[11:06] <ekul1> lol
[11:06] <^rob^> gyaresu: i did - it's a package mess
[11:06] <^rob^> mysql-4.1
[11:06] <^rob^> server
[11:06] <sledgeas> common guys, a simple question to an potential ubuntu user!
[11:06] <gyaresu> ^rob^: (Without looking) Is it something special you've done with versions?
[11:06] <gyaresu> !repos | sledgeas
[11:06] <ubotu> sledgeas: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:07] <sledgeas> great, tx
[11:07] <^rob^> gyaresu: no - it's a fresh installed server from dedicatedcentral.com
[11:07] <ekul1> stick with it sledgeas, ill never go back to windows if i can get my sound to work.
[11:07] <gyaresu> sledgeas: Debian names are a little misleading here.
[11:07] <^rob^> they don't do debian - but ubuntu
[11:07] <otwr> !sound
[11:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:08] <PKAA> Hi guys! One question, do you think 256RAM for gnome is not enough? I am asking.. at work got 1GB and it is blazing fast. Here, at home got 256 and sometimes i really slows down :/
[11:08] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Ah. Ok so you've bought a server.
[11:08] <Wuffi600> quit
[11:08] <ekul1> thanks otwr, done all that, at least, done all the parts of it i understand
[11:08] <^rob^> and i got ubuntu edgy
[11:08] <^rob^> instead debian
[11:08] <tschaka> PKAA try xfce instead ;)
[11:09] <dcordes> PKAA: i think that depends on your own view. you could try fluxbox- that's very friendly to your ressources
[11:09] <gyaresu> ^rob^: K. Well you'know. Same same, but something is foobar'd if a clean install is wacking out on just a mysql install.
[11:09] <PKAA> no I don't want xfce :) I really like nautilus and whole gnome thing :)
[11:09] <^rob^> i had to chose from fedora(bleah) MSWin(booo) FreeBSD(well well) and ubuntu
[11:09] <PKAA> I used to work on fluxbox for a looong time :) but these days I simply love gnome :)
[11:09] <dcordes> !asterisk
[11:09] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.12.1.dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB
[11:09] <lnostdal> hey guys .. is ubuntuforums currently down or is there something wrong at my end?
[11:10] <tschaka> so just get another 256mb ram bar at least ;) quite cheap these days =)
[11:10] <dcordes> PKAA: yea i feel you.. gnome is very nice system
[11:10] <^rob^> I love FreeBSD - but... i need oracle... which has no install on fbsd... so i got stucked with this ubuntu edgy
[11:10] <^rob^> which does not want to install muysql-4.1 server.
[11:10] <^rob^> grr
[11:10] <bill-nz> ekul1:  I have nvidia drivers installed, but when i updated my kernel, it crashes x.  I have updated the drivers, but it still crashes when i boot into the new kernal... any ideas anyone?
[11:10] <PKAA> Any way to slightly speed up whole gnome on 256ram? btw. I checked prices, and for mine laptop it is not so cheap... now I live in US and got European laptop :)
[11:10] <tschaka> ah ic
[11:10] <dcordes> fbsd  is such a strange system
[11:11] <tschaka> could be a difficult job :/
[11:11] <ekul1> sorry Bill-nz total newb here
[11:11] <^rob^> dcordes: ain;t strange - need good unix knowledge
[11:11] <PKAA> so they need to get for me "old" RAM stick from Europe which is not so cheap, cause production was discontinoued
[11:11] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Now now. Lot's of others have so can you think of anything you might have done non-standard and could you post the last of the error message.
[11:11] <bill-nz> np ekul1
[11:11] <kenthomson> Seveas, are you here?
[11:11] <^rob^> and after my experience works better on high load bandwith than linux...
[11:11] <^rob^> :)
[11:11] <dcordes> PKAA: well then i would save my money
[11:12] <PKAA> :)
[11:12] <^rob^> gyaresu: yeah - i did : apt-get update... apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[11:12] <tschaka> PKAA u may could install "bum" and deactivate some services on startup, no more ideas by me, sry
[11:12] <dcordes> ^rob^: what badnwith do you get on your server?
[11:12] <gyaresu> bill-nz: You need to re-install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-generic (or whatever you kernel is)
[11:12] <kalorin> reboot
[11:12] <alan__> anbody know when the forums will be back up?
[11:12] <PKAA> Right now I am saving money to buy new laptop - thinking about MacBook Pro
[11:12] <kalorin> new ati drivers
[11:12] <^rob^> dcores: i have no clue... lol
[11:13] <bill-nz> gyaresu: will i have this problem every time the kernal gets updated?
[11:13] <^rob^> dcores: i had a fbsd on my old work place - (an ISP) - worked like a charm - not even booted 2 yrs.
[11:13] <dcordes> i'm saving money for a zaurus cl3200
[11:13] <gyaresu> !offtopic  dcordes ^rob^
[11:13] <^rob^> our uptime was 2 years.. we was very proud of it - untill my ex-boss sell the company,
[11:14] <gyaresu> bill-nz: Yes. But you just need to remember (shouldn't have to) to upgrade those packages at the same time or.....
[11:14] <gyaresu> !envy | bill-nz
[11:14] <ubotu> bill-nz: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:14] <^rob^> whatever - forget fbsd - back to mysql 4.1
[11:14] <^rob^> :)
[11:15] <bill-nz> gyaresu: thanks, does envy work from the shell?
[11:15] <kalorin> welp
[11:15] <kalorin> it didn't die
[11:15] <gyaresu> ^rob^: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-install-mysql-server-4-1-on-ubuntu-edgy
[11:16] <gyaresu> bill-nz: nah. It's a gui.
[11:16] <gyaresu> bill-nz: cli's your friend though :)
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> is it ridiculously hard to put the newest version of ubuntu on intel macs?
[11:16] <bill-nz> gyaresu: envy won't help if x fails to start :)
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> or is it impossible any how because all macs have ATI video cards?
[11:17] <briancann> hey guys trying to access my windows mount in KDE which is totally accessible in gnome
[11:17] <dcordes> shadeofgrey: i think you just need the ppc releases
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> ...or have i bven out of the loop so long that ATI display drivers are no longer the bane of every serious ubuntu user?
[11:17] <kalorin> how can you tell which version of drivers you're currently using for a video card?
[11:17] <gyaresu> bill-nz: Nope. See what I meant about the cli ;) Just install nvidia-glx and the restricted modules I mentioned and everything should be fine.
[11:17] <gays> I got a webserver running on a comp, but it takes about 40-50 sec to refresh the page. It loads fast, but i have to wait 45 sec before it does =P anyone know why?
[11:17] <PKAA> I do not have mac right now, but I guess it shouldn't be any problem(!!!), I plan to buy MacBook Pro, just for Ubuntu, and from time to time other two most known OSes ;)
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> dcordes, but  PPC wont run on untel macs!
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> thats the whole point
[11:17] <PKAA> but you can get intel version instead of PPC
[11:17] <kalorin> gays are you resovling the ip addresses in the logs?
[11:18] <Slike> hello, i'm having a ubuntu 6.06 server here, without x. i'd like to have a fully functional windowmaker on it, so i tried installing wmaker, xserver-xorg, xdm, xfonts-base,xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-200dpi + configured the xserver using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. when i hit startx my screen goes blank on all virtual terminals, i can't do anything any more then. what should i do/install to make everything work fine?
[11:18] <bill-nz> shadeofgrey: i haven't seen it in action, but i've heard ancetodal stories of running in parallells.
[11:18] <dcordes> briancann: it should not make a difference which desktop you use. mounting is independent from that
[11:18] <teeL> damn, wrong nick :D
[11:18] <teeL> kalorin: What do you mean? =p
[11:18] <PKAA> I am not a guru, so it would be better if you ask somebody who actually is using intel mac version of ubuntu
[11:18] <kalorin> are you having the webserver do the dns lookups against the client ip addresses in the logs
[11:18] <bill-nz> gyaresu: i booted into the cli and updated those 2 packages, and still crashed x.  do i need to do a remove then install?
[11:19] <briancann> dcordes, thats what I thought
[11:19] <teeL> kalorin: I dont think so =p
[11:19] <dcordes> briancann: but?
[11:19] <gyaresu> kalorin: glxinfo it's at the top.
[11:19] <briancann> access in gnome but not in kde
[11:19] <gyaresu> bill-nz: modprobe nvidia
[11:19] <gyaresu> bill-nz: or reboot.
[11:21] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/sbin$ glxinfo
[11:21] <kalorin> name of display: :0.0
[11:21] <kalorin> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:21] <juice`> hi, i have problems installing Ubuntu 6.06, 6.10 or the latest alpha 5. they all stall after i choose to install them, safe graphics mode doesnt help
[11:21] <kalorin> keep getting that extension missing message
[11:21] <juice`> i can't even find any install logs on any consoles
[11:21] <dcordes> juice`: that sounds terrible!
[11:21] <gyaresu> juice`: You probably need to pass a kernel boot option something like noacpi...
[11:22] <juice`> just noacpi or is it argument to something ? like option=noacpi ?
[11:22] <gyaresu> juice`: If you hit ESC when you're at the first menu you should be able to add it to the kernel line in grub.
[11:22] <juice`> i suspect cdrom problems, /cdrom is empty and can't find anything in /dev/
[11:23] <gyaresu> juice`: Yeah ^^
[11:23] <juice`> excuse me, but what exactly? i typed two possible options :) just noacpi ?
[11:23] <ekul`> every second time i start ubuntu i get an error before the desktop starts that says "kill: could not pill '1826' : no such process"
[11:23] <yomm> juice : are you trying to install from usb cdrom ?
[11:23] <gyaresu> juice`: Ah. Old machine? Maybe try burning the iso at a lower speed. See if another livecd loads?
[11:23] <juice`> no
[11:23] <juice`> very new machine
[11:24] <juice`> i think it's ICH8
[11:24] <juice`> and i'm pretty sure there is no ICH8 cdrom support in kernels 2.6.17 and lowers, and this is 6.10 kernel
[11:24] <kenthomson> HELP; i need help building my sources.list. q1. is building the sources.list from the online-sources-list-generator at ubuntu.nl safe? q2. is "deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse" = separately adding */edgy main + */edgy restricted + */edgy universe + */edgy multiverse, (as four different lines)?
[11:24] <Robinsjostrom> i have one questing. it was a couple of years since i last ran linux. Is it still problems installing graphiccards?
[11:24] <juice`> so i downloaded alpha 5
[11:24] <gyaresu> juice`: acpi=off I thing.
[11:24] <livingdaylight> Q: to burn .avi to i use cd or dvd?
[11:24] <gyaresu> *think
[11:24] <juice`> acpi=off ? hmm... where to check it ?
[11:25] <ekul`> and damn i can get my onboard sound to work but not my soundcard :/
[11:25] <ekul`> time for a new soundcard I think!
[11:25] <juice`> i mean which manual
[11:25] <ekul`> anyone have one they can guarantee will work with Ubuntu 6.10 for me? ;)
[11:25] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: "put an avi on a disk to play in a dvd player'?
[11:25] <Jowi> juice`, "pci=noacpi" or "acpi=off" I guess. add it into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:25] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, yes
[11:25] <kenthomson> Can someone be kind enough to answer my sources.list questions?
[11:25] <gyaresu> juice`: Jowi If you're loading the livecd then hit ESC at the first menu...
[11:26] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: just dump it on either. Most players don't care.
[11:26] <bill-nz> gyaresu: this is what's in my X11 log file after the crash:(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
[11:26] <bill-nz> (II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
[11:26] <bill-nz> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[11:26] <bill-nz> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[11:26] <bill-nz> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[11:26] <bill-nz> (II) UnloadModule: "ramdac"
[11:26] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, do i have to convert .avi to a dvd format-able player?
[11:26] <bill-nz> (II) UnloadModule: "fb"
[11:26] <bill-nz> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[11:26] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, oh...ok...i'll try
[11:26] <bill-nz> Fatal server error:
[11:26] <bill-nz> no screens found
[11:26] <gyaresu> livingdaylight: if it's a cd you'll only fit one on depending on size.
[11:26] <Jowi> juice`, sorry, didn't know you was on the live cd (thanks for pointing it out gyaresu)
[11:26] <gyaresu> !pastebin | bill-nz
[11:26] <ubotu> bill-nz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <leeba>  And I have a question about the command line for network config
[11:26] <bill-nz> sry
[11:27] <gyaresu> !repos | kenthomson
[11:27] <ubotu> kenthomson: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:27] <kenthomson> !easysource
[11:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:27] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, yes, i noticed that most .avi movies are just over 700mb like 701 etc. which is doesn't work on a general /standard 700mb cd
[11:27] <kenthomson> gyaresu, can you answer this?:  is "deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse" = separately adding */edgy main + */edgy restricted + */edgy universe + */edgy multiverse, (as four different lines)?
[11:27] <Jowi> Robinsjostrom, depends on which card. most functions for most cards work out-of-the-box. some special drivers are needed for others.
[11:28] <leeba>   is there a site with the basic commands for entering static ip address et.al.?
[11:28] <gyaresu> bill-nz: No nvidia kernel module... Did you really update linux-restricted-modules-`uname -a`
[11:29] <gyaresu> kenthomson: Yes it is.
[11:29] <ekul`> !divx
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <Jowi> Robinsjostrom, for example, my intel 945GM card is fully functioning with accelerated graphics enabled without me having to do a thing. some ati/nvidia cards need 3rd party drivers for acceleration.
[11:29] <juice`> then again, why my acpi is not working?
[11:29] <gyaresu> kenthomson: Have a look at mine if it helps: http://gyaresu.org/sources.list
[11:29] <juice`> it is working under windows im pretty sure
[11:29] <bill-nz> gyaresu: i did a apt-get upgrade, and linux-restricted was one of the upgrades, but in retrospect, it must have only upgraded the installed one and not downloaded a new one
[11:30] <gyaresu> juice`: Just happens with some install machines. Get it installed and update the kernel. Everything should be fine.
[11:30] <kenthomson> gyaresu, so you mean to say that the latter four different lines (refer to the original question) in effect work the same way if i put */edgy main restricted universe multiverse, in a same line?
[11:30] <assasukasse> hi all, i installed by aptitude xubuntu desktop on my edgy, now i realized i don't use much, so i wanted to purge it, but if i give aptitude purge only 159meg get uninstalled..how can i fully uninstall?
[11:30] <gyaresu> bill-nz: What is the output of 'uname -a'
[11:30] <juice`> gyaresu: yes, but when i tried to install alpha 5 which has 2.6.20 (newest kernel) it didnt help anyways
[11:30] <gyaresu> bill-nz: You have rebooted since upgrading your kernel right?
[11:30] <juice`> gyaresu: i suspect it won't help, but i will try of course.
[11:31] <kenthomson> gyaresu, # Dapper Security Updates
[11:31] <kenthomson> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main, the comment says dapper but you have edgy in the deb-line. whats going on?
[11:31] <gyaresu> juice`: There are ways and means. Maybe your chipset needs some extra module or something that isn't in the base kernel.
[11:31] <Jowi> assasukasse, if you remove xubuntu-desktop it will also remove files that are no longer in use. however, if you installed other packages that still need those files they will not be removed.
[11:32] <kenthomson> gyaresu, ?
[11:32] <juice`> gyaresu: oh ok, that makes sense. ok, thank you very much for help, going to play with kernel paramets after i read Documentation/ dir of course :)
[11:32] <Jowi> assasukasse, aptitude takes care of that automatically
[11:32] <gyaresu> kenthomson: I must have only bothered with the replace function in vim for 'dapper' (case sensetive)
[11:32] <assasukasse> Jowi: i just installed xubuntu desktop, of course it installed of a bunch of other stuffs, i didn't install anything else on xubuntu
[11:33] <kenthomson> gyaresu, but those repos are for edgy, right? whatever the comment says?
[11:33] <gyaresu> juice`: Can't hurt it to run that option. Just usually is that one IMHO.
[11:33] <gyaresu> kenthomson: Yep.
[11:33] <kenthomson> gyaresu, thank you!
[11:33] <bill-nz> gyaresu: well, currently it's 2.6.17-11-386, but the one i'm trying to log into is 2.6.20-ck1
[11:33] <leeba> if i install ubuntu dekstop over my ubuntu server edition will LAMPP remain intact?
[11:34] <gyaresu> bill-nz: 2.6.20 is that feisty?
[11:34] <gyaresu> bill-nz: If you're running edgy it's 2.6.17-11-generic
[11:35] <gyaresu> leeba: Should be fine.
[11:35] <gyaresu> kenthomson: You're welcome.
[11:35] <idiot_> not sure where to go for help, but i'm having trouble running gkrellm.  i start gkrellm and no window comes up.  using icewm.  any ideas?
[11:35] <gyaresu> idiot_: I don't know the prog but if you run it from a terminal you'll get the error messages.
[11:35] <gyaresu> idiot_: Then you can pastebin them for us and we'll have a look.
[11:35] <idiot_> am running from termina, no error messages
[11:35] <bill-nz> gyaresu: i compiled it last night.  i also changed my kernel just after install to 2.6.17.11-386 to get better performance
[11:36] <idiot_> s/termina/terminal/
[11:36] <Jowi> assasukasse, 159MB removal sounds about right. xubuntu is not very big.
[11:36] <PirateHead> I'm trying to get my wireless working. I built and installed madwifi and I modprobed it, so it should be working... but how do I enable wireless access and view the list of available connections?
[11:36] <gyaresu> bill-nz: Why did you have to rollyourown?
[11:36] <assasukasse> Jowi: just when it installed said 400mb install..
[11:37] <assasukasse> i dunno why
[11:37] <gyaresu> idiot_: You know sed well that's a good sign.
[11:37] <bill-nz> gyaresu: because i'm a tinkerer :)
[11:37] <gyaresu> bill-nz: You done broke it.
[11:37] <gyaresu> bad bill-nz
[11:38] <Jowi> assasukasse, for me it is 248MB but that's because I've removed a bunch of fonts and CUPS that I've never used before so it want to re-install those packages as well.
[11:38] <gyaresu> bill-nz: You wanna tinker use gentoo. You wanna easy upgrade. Then stick with the -generic kernel. Bad monkey.
[11:38] <yettenet> Anyone using Opera here?
[11:38] <yettenet> I've got a problem with Flash items
[11:38] <ekul`> anyone know how to get my TV out?
[11:38] <ekul`> erm, tv out to work?
[11:38] <__james> how to remove installed programs in wine/
[11:38] <ekul`> !tvout
[11:38] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[11:38] <bill-nz> gyaresu: lol, not really, i can still boot into 2.6.17.11 but a while ago i got an auto update that put me up to 2.6.17.12 and that also broke X
[11:38] <gyaresu> yettenet: Yes. Did you follow the flash link?
[11:38] <ekul`> wow this bot has everything
[11:39] <yettenet> gyaresu: Flash is working, the only problem is that sometimes flash items turn to grey all of a sudden
[11:39] <leeba> I had desktop originally but had trouble adding LAMPP so did a server install with LAMPP option and now am having trouble learning command line ..this desktop install should allow me to use gui to finish a Drupal install.. sounds like it should be no problem. Correct? and Thanks.
[11:39] <yettenet> And they won't play
[11:39] <gyaresu> bill-nz: If you've got the edgy sources setup right then you should be running 2.6.17-11-generic. From there, I can help you ;)
[11:40] <gyaresu> yettenet: Yeah, like when you change between tabs. Annoying huh?
[11:40] <Jowi> assasukasse, "apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop" will list all the packages it needs.
[11:40] <yettenet> gyaresu: Yup, it is
[11:40] <finalbeta> Where's the plugin dir for firefox?
[11:40] <yettenet> gyaresu: Is there any solution?
[11:40] <gyaresu> yettenet: I just have firefox for it.
[11:40] <yettenet> gyaresu: Damn :S
[11:40] <assasukasse> and for removing? Jowi
[11:40] <bill-nz> gyaresu: np, at least i know where to look now
[11:40] <gyaresu> yettenet: Not to my knowledge. If you find one let me know eh?
[11:40] <yettenet> gyaresu: Sure
[11:40] <PirateHead> I'm trying to get my wireless working. I built and installed madwifi and I modprobed it, so it should be working... but how do I enable wireless access and view the list of available connections?
[11:40] <yettenet> gyaresu: What sort of ubuntu do you use?
[11:41] <gyaresu> PirateHead: with a gui or cli?
[11:41] <PirateHead> What is a cli?
[11:41] <Jowi> assasukasse, some of those packages listed with "apt-cache depends ..." are standalone packages (such as CUPS) and you can remove these manually.
[11:41] <PirateHead> I certianly didn't do anything with a gui. I did it at the terminal.
[11:41] <bill-nz> PirateHead: command line interface
[11:41] <gyaresu> yettenet: edgy with fluxbox xinerama lots of cli and key combos.
[11:41] <PirateHead> Yeah, cli.
[11:41] <__james> how to remove installed programs in wine?
[11:41] <gyaresu> PirateHead: 'iwlist _dev_name_ scan'
[11:41] <yettenet> gyaresu: Ok, thanks... so it's not KDE-dependant :)
[11:42] <gyaresu> yettenet: :)
[11:42] <PirateHead> gyaresu: how do I find out what my dev name is?
[11:42] <leeba> Thank you for the information
[11:42] <gyaresu> PirateHead: iwconfig
[11:42] <PirateHead> is it the same as the kernel module name?
[11:42] <gyaresu> leeba: You got it sorted?
[11:42] <PirateHead> must be ath0
[11:42] <gyaresu> PirateHead: iwlist ath0 scan
[11:43] <gyaresu> PirateHead: if you see it there then you may want to...
[11:43] <rylan> hey, i need help. im trying to install a QQ client program for gaim i followed the instructions cd'd to the folder hit make and it says no make file. Any Ideas?
[11:43] <PirateHead> No scan results -- does that mean error, or no currently available wireless connections?
[11:43] <gyaresu> !networkmanager | PirateHead
[11:43] <ubotu> PirateHead: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:43] <dcordes> !grub
[11:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:43] <gyaresu> rylan: README INSTALL
[11:43] <PirateHead> I'll take a look at that wiki page.
[11:44] <gyaresu> rylan: You probably havn't '.configure'd
[11:44] <Slike> as soon as i install and configure xserver-xorg on a server here and i start it my screen goes blank. accessing other vty's doesn't work either. even rebooting (regardless the runlevel) results in a blank screen when xserver is installed
[11:44] <Slike> any ideas what may be wrong?
[11:44] <__Krush> Hi I need some help with growisofs....can anyone help me?
[11:44] <Jowi> assasukasse, I have made it into a habit to copy/paste the list of the newly installed packages into a text-file so I get rid of it all in one swoop if I would want to
[11:44] <gyaresu> Slike: Can you get to one of the other terminals (CTRLALT+F2)?
[11:45] <Slike> gyaresu: no, they're all blank
[11:45] <assasukasse> Jowi: i know...but is very bad that debian didn't think about that..
[11:45] <leeba> i think if i install the desktop CD over the server edition with lampp i will get the mysql, apache, and php i need with gui..a waste of server space for gui but i cant manipulate command line well enough yet to get around..so i thnk i am fine if in fact this desktop install works
[11:45] <gyaresu> Jowi: You'd use 'dpkg --get-selections' then?
[11:45] <__Krush> Can I run growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /home but the DVD drive is on another machine?
[11:46] <PirateHead> gyaresu: thanks for the help, hopefully this will work
[11:46] <PirateHead> =D
[11:46] <gyaresu> Slike: Can you start in recovery mode (single user) and check out the /var/log/Xorg.log ?
[11:46] <gyaresu> PirateHead: Good luck.
[11:46] <leeba> Thanks for asking
[11:46] <Jowi> gyaresu, I could but instead I use dpkg-query -W -f=.... to create a before and after list that I take the diff out of.
[11:46] <omegabeta> Question : How do I enable mouse in the framebuffer
[11:46] <Jowi> gyaresu, that way I can sort it by install date and such
[11:46] <gyaresu> leeba: 'visudo' get into the habit early :)
[11:46] <ekul`> !startup
[11:46] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[11:47] <harveyd> is feisty going to fix the wireless interface?
[11:47] <gyaresu> Jowi: Cool.
[11:47] <Slike> gyaresu: i can
[11:47] <rylan> gyaresu, how do i do that
[11:47] <gyaresu> leeba: NO! not visudo!
[11:47] <leeba> i wondered
[11:47] <rylan> gyaresu, the configure thing
[11:47] <gyaresu> leeba: I meant 'vimtutor' (sorry)
[11:47] <Slike> gyaresu: should i paste the contents somewhere? (+suggestions where)
[11:47] <meshugga> hi chaps
[11:47] <leeba> ok.
[11:47] <meshugga> what would be a good tls replacement for xen guests?
[11:48] <__Krush> Can I run growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /home but the DVD drive is on another machine?
[11:48] <gyaresu> rylan: Did you read the README or the INSTALL in the directory?
[11:48] <harveyd> this is one place where windows is ridiculously better
[11:48] <gyaresu> rylan: Whenever you go to install there will always be one of those files.
[11:48] <gyaresu> !pastebin | Slike
[11:48] <ubotu> Slike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <gyaresu> !feisty | harveyd
[11:49] <ubotu> harveyd: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:49] <Jowi> gyaresu, dpkg-query is quite nice. simple. for example to sort all the installed packages by size you can use ->  dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size}\t ${Package}\n'| sort -g -r | less
[11:49] <ekul`> when i right click on shortcuts in the menu i dont get a 'properties' option
[11:49] <gyaresu> !networkmanager | harveyd
[11:49] <ubotu> harveyd: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:49] <leeba> i found it.. thank you. I am glad to find a place to learn this information.
[11:49] <gyaresu> Jowi: Yeah, used to use it a bit with Debian...
[11:49] <harveyd> gya, cheers
[11:49] <yettenet> gyaresu: Well, it seems like that the 9.20 version of Opera is doing better
[11:50] <GMWeezel> Is there an application that can log the amount of data sent/recieved by a program over a network? I know in processes you can see the total but I need it for a single application.
[11:50] <harveyd> will it ever be storing authentification details?
[11:50] <rylan> gyaresu, yeah, but its pretty vague and im new to linux
[11:50] <omeil_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables what compiler od i need plz?
[11:50] <gyaresu> leeba: It's a necessary thing (plus eventually you'll love it.)
[11:50] <harveyd> weezel, ethereal
[11:50] <Slike> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8913/ contains a dump of the log
[11:50] <Joshooa> Could someone help me with finishing setting up my network and saving it so I wont have to try and figure it out again after I reboot?
[11:50] <gyaresu> rylan: Can you pastebin the INSTALL then please?
[11:50] <yettenet> gyaresu: Damn, it's not better :(
[11:50] <gyaresu> yettenet: :(
[11:50] <leeba> i can't wait ..maybe i can learn and come back and help.this has been great to get  response so fast
[11:51] <yettenet> gyaresu: Closed a tab, gray thingy happened again
[11:51] <GMWeezel> harveyd: thanks
[11:51] <rylan> gyaresu, working on that.
[11:51] <Psykus> ok
[11:51] <gyaresu> leeba: There are also 'cheatsheets' online for vim. I still use them...
[11:52] <gyaresu> Slike: Checking now...
[11:52] <kalorin> nice:
[11:52] <kalorin> (**) fglrx(0): Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[11:52] <kalorin> (WW) fglrx(1): ***********************************
[11:52] <kalorin> (WW) fglrx(1): * DRI initialization disabled!    *
[11:52] <kalorin> (WW) fglrx(1): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) *
[11:52] <kalorin> (WW) fglrx(1): * no 3D acceleration available    *
[11:52] <kalorin> (WW) fglrx(1): ***********************************
[11:52] <sdac221x_> hi, can someone point me to somewhere that shows how to install gkrellm skins as i haven't been able to come up with anything... i downloaded the skins but no idea how to proceed.  thanks
[11:52] <kalorin> think that's because I'm using xinerama?
[11:52] <gyaresu> !pastebin | kalorin
[11:52] <ubotu> kalorin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:52] <kalorin> for 5 lines?
[11:52] <Psykus> just finished a fresh install of ubunto on a machine i've used it with before..it's showing a wireless card in the network options, but it won't work without ndiswrapper. I need to remove this default adapter/driver before continuing with ndiswrapper, I had to do this same thing last time I installled ubuntu, just can't remember how to uninstall the default one
[11:53] <Psykus> otherwise they would conflict and nothing would work
[11:53] <gyaresu> Slike: What did you follow to get your radeon installed?
[11:53] <bill-nz> leeba: learn by doing. and you can install LAMPP easily on the desktop install, just not as a single package as far as I know
[11:53] <Jowi> kalorin, this channel can be very busy. better use pastebin
[11:54] <rylan> gyaresu, well i got the configure part,
[11:54] <Psykus> ok, nm, think I found it in the wiki
[11:54] <rylan> gyaresu, make is still not working
[11:54] <Slike> gyaresu: i installed the xserver-xorg package (+xfonts packages and xdm), then i performed a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:54] <gyaresu> bill-nz: leeba He's right. It's probably a good idea to follow a howto from http://howtoforge.com
[11:54] <Slike> gyaresu: it automatically discovered and identified the ati card
[11:54] <gyaresu> rylan: Is './configure' completing without errors?
[11:54] <Joshooa> How do I use vi to edit something and not just type over it and put in ABCD when I use the arrow keys?
[11:55] <gyaresu> Joshooa: vimtutor (give it a go)
[11:55] <Joshooa> ok
[11:55] <rylan> gyaresu, at the end it says "checking for gaim... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[11:55] <rylan> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."
[11:55] <Joshooa> before that, can I get some help finishing setting up my network?
[11:56] <bill-nz> leeba: getting apache and php/mysql is a breeze to get set up if you have ever done it in windows.  these products were written for linux first
[11:56] <Joshooa> I'm afraid to move or I'll have to stumble through it all again
[11:56] <gyaresu> rylan: Why are you trying to install a newer version of gaim?
[11:56] <Joshooa> I almost have my WEP key memorized now
[11:56] <rylan> gyaresu, im not, im trying to install a pluggin to allow my girlfriend to use QQ ( a chinese messenger service)
[11:57] <asoldier> Joshooa : that's scary
[11:57] <gyaresu> rylan: Ah. Any chance that you've done a google search for someone listing how they managed to acheive it?
[11:57] <Joshooa> Yes it is, it took my hours to get it set up in Ubuntu, then I just got Kubuntu going, and had to try and figure it all out again.  It wont remember my ra0 wireless card thingy
[11:57] <gyaresu> Slike: Any chance you wanna install the accelerated ati drivers?
[11:57] <shaun> hey
[11:58] <gyaresu> !howdy | shaun
[11:58] <ubotu> shaun: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:58] <rylan> gyaresu, it took me forever just to find this pluggin, (not exactly a common thing) and 90% of the info on it is in chinese,
[11:58] <gyaresu> rylan: I understand.
[11:58] <shaun> i just installed ubuntu 6.10 and i cnt install my nVIDIA drivers
[11:58] <gyaresu> rylan: Post the link to the plugin will you (and the page if it's in english) I'll have look.
[11:58] <gyaresu> !envy | shaun
[11:58] <ubotu> shaun: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:59] <varkatope_> hi
[11:59] <Slike> gyaresu: you mean i should install the provided fglrx package?
[11:59] <Mikesdesk> hi, has anyone got mysql workbench to work under dapper
[11:59] <shaun> TY gyaresu
[11:59] <gyaresu> Slike: Sorry I only buy nvidia.
[11:59] <gyaresu> !ati | Slike
[11:59] <ubotu> Slike: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <rylan> gyaresu, gimme a sec
[12:00] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: i couldn't get it to work under edgy
[12:00] <sdac221x_> is this the correct room to ask something about a piece of software ?  I asked a simple question about gkrellm
[12:00] <Slike> gyaresu: i'm quite confident with that, but why is that xserver on all the vty's, and why does it even start when booting runlevel 2?
[12:00] <ekul`> How can i edit xconf from the terminal without being in the graphical thing
[12:01] <rylan> gyaresu, http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/sourceforge/o/op/openq/openq-0.3.1-1.i386.html
[12:01] <Mikesdesk> bill-nz, do you use another gui to represent the tables for mysql. Like workbench does.
[12:01] <varkatope_> ekul`: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <gyaresu> Slike: runlevel 2 is the default. Apparently that's how it's done around here. Weird I know. Which distro are you from?
[12:01] <ekul`> cheers
[12:02] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: i just installed the query browser. i got that to work
[12:02] <gyaresu> rylan: Ah. It's an rpm...
[12:02] <gyaresu> !alien | rylan
[12:02] <ubotu> rylan: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:02] <Slike> gyaresu: i'm using ubuntu server 6.06 on that machine, i use to work with suse or ubuntu. i thought runlevel 5 is the only runlevel that allows x server
[12:02] <gyaresu> rylan: Make sure you have the 'Requires' (Dependencies)
[12:02] <Slike> anyway, i'll try some things
[12:02] <Slike> thank you
[12:03] <gyaresu> Slike: Depends where one puts one init scripts...
[12:03] <rylan> gyaresu, the config goes all the way through to gaim. and i know i have that. im online right now
[12:03] <gyaresu> Slike: np.
[12:03] <gyaresu> rylan: ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/o/op/openq/openq-0.3.1-1.i386.rpm _that_ my friend is a package...
[12:03] <Mikesdesk> bill-nz, I was hoping to visually see how the primary and foreign links connect through all the tables. Its rather a large database..
[12:04] <rylan> gyaresu, and sourceforge had a tar.bz2 of it too
[12:04] <omegabeta> Question : How do I enable mouse in the framebuffer
[12:04] <rylan> gyaresu, and for no apperant reason my computer hates installing new things. 70% of things i try to self install have the same/similar issues
[12:05] <rylan> gyaresu, bottled hate
[12:05] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: i hear you.  i was using workbench when it was dbSomethingOrOther (can't remember what it was called) and it rocked.
[12:05] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: i was kinda ticked when i tried to get it again for this machine and couldn't get it to work
[12:07] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: i'm not sure it its a linux problem, a debian problem, or just an ubuntu problem
[12:07] <omeil_> i can't get quake 3's sound to work
[12:07] <rylan> gyaresu, must be a good sandwich....
[12:07] <Mikesdesk> bill-nz, i saw a huge guide on http://www.monkeyhelper.com but in the end it never worked. This upsets me..
[12:08] <juice`> hi, i still can't install any version of ubuntu. casper.log says "Unable to find a medium containing a life file system' but i've tried 3 different CD on 2 different CD-ROMs
[12:08] <Joshooa> gyaresu: How do I use vimtutor?
[12:08] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: fyi, MySQL Administrator seems to be buggy too.  it locks up every time i try to view the user list
[12:08] <omeil_> Anyone know how to fix this compiling error? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:08] <Mikesdesk> bill-nz, same
[12:08] <Mikesdesk> bill-nz, are there any alternatives ..
[12:08] <juice`> someone here suggested to add pci=noacpi and acpi=off but that didnt help
[12:09] <gyaresu> rylan: If you're installing from dodgy packages then that will happen. "dependencie hell"
[12:09] <juice`> i can't install ubuntu (any version), cdrom fails to be mounted durning instalation, what to do? i tried changing in BIOS from AHCI to IDE or IDE/RAID but that doesnt help! pci=noacpi and acpi=off doesnt do anything either
[12:10] <gyaresu> Joshooa: Run 'vimtutor' from a terminal and read...
[12:10] <bill-nz> Mikesdesk: if you have money coming out of your ears, there's a MySQL version of TOAD
[12:10] <Joshooa> I got bash: vimtutor: command not found
[12:10] <juice`> gyaresu: oh here you are :) i tried pci=noacpi and acpi=off and that didnt help :( i edited boot options while in the menu and pressing F6
[12:11] <moggio_> how do you remove the top and bottom of the cube in Beryl?
[12:11] <gyaresu> juice`: Cool. That's a learning experience for you. :) F6 is it? Didn't know that...
[12:12] <theOlster> hello all... I'm new to IRC and #ubuntu, and am not sure about etiquette.  Is it OK to ask for support here or should I direct all my questions to the forums?
[12:12] <gyaresu> moggio_: Have you tried asking in the beryl channel?
[12:12] <gyaresu> !welcome theOlster
[12:12] <juice`> gyaresu: yes, but that didnt help :(
[12:12] <gyaresu> !welcome | theOlster
[12:12] <ubotu> theOlster: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[12:12] <yunien> hey.. it's ok to use ANSI as encoding for english text, right?
[12:12] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell theOlster about yourself
[12:12] <omeil_> damnit no one can help me with quake 3 arena :(
[12:12] <juice`> gyaresu: i found out though, that it can't load live cd that's why it's failing probably
[12:12] <omeil_> me very angry
[12:12] <omeil_> lol
[12:13] <Psykus> they should really make it so the ubuntu install cd prompts you to boot from it, like microsoft's XP install cds
[12:13] <juice`> gyaresu: what to do now?
[12:13] <Psykus> "Press any key to boot from CD...", and then proceed to boot your first hard drive
[12:13] <theOlster> I'm a Mac user... but have been using FC5/Ubuntu on and off for 3 or so years, looking forward to the final switch
[12:13] <gyaresu> omeil_: It's a well known problem. You will find it on google. I seem to remember something to do with oss/alsa and option strings...
[12:13] <rylan> gyaresu, so, any advice on how i can get around dependancy-hell to cant-get-my-girlfriend-purgatory?
[12:13] <bill-nz> Psykus: it does, but in a much prettier manner
[12:13] <omeil_> hmm we will see :)
[12:13] <gyaresu> rylan: Did you try the link to 'alien' that I posted?
[12:14] <Psykus> nah, the default action for the cd is 'boot from cd', if you don't do anything
[12:14] <Jowi> theOlster, this is the ubuntu support channel so go ahead and ask away
[12:14] <ekul`> !tvout
[12:14] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[12:14] <Psykus> for ubuntu I mean
[12:14] <rylan> gyaresu,  well, there is a tar.bz that i downloaded.
[12:14] <rylan> gyaresu, thats what i am working with here
[12:14] <moggio_> gyaresu: i'll try, it's a bit quiet there though sometimes
[12:14] <gyaresu> juice`: New machine/ Won't start the livecd/ What to do next?
[12:14] <bill-nz> Psykus: oh, got what you mean
[12:14] <ethos> ever used ubuntu ultimate edition?
[12:14] <gyaresu> !alien | rylan
[12:14] <ubotu> rylan: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:14] <PirateHead> gyaresu: just logged back in to tell you that network-manager is magical and works just fine
[12:14] <gyaresu> rylan: ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/o/op/openq/openq-0.3.1-1.i386.rpm Try the rpm.
[12:15] <PirateHead> They should put it in the base Ubuntu install fo sho -- it's a very nice little app.
[12:15] <rylan> gyaresu,  shouldnt i try to work around the problems with the tar.bz?
[12:15] <Rebecca> hey. i seem to have locked up my usb system.. lsusb freezes and kill -9 won't even remove it.. anyone know how to fix without rebooting?
[12:15] <timhaughton> I know that Edgy will be supported for 18 months from its release, but when Feisty comes out, do the versions of packages in Feisty make it back to Edgy via the backports? Or will Edgy always be bahind?
[12:15] <gyaresu> rylan: Should I repeat my self and use caps or something? You could just not take my advice, that's ok too ;)
[12:16] <timhaughton> *behind
[12:16] <theOlster> OK, I (will) have two desktops (one of which is my MacBook) and a server all running Edgy, I want to have a couple of folders syched up at all times.  What software should I be looking at?  Or should I start practicing my bash/MySQL coding!?
[12:16] <PirateHead> timhaughton: some packages may be packported to Edgy, but the effort will not be as extensive as Dapper's
[12:16] <gyaresu> Rebecca: Got any output in syslog or messages?
[12:16] <rylan> gyaresu, sorry, i just thought that rpm would just open a whole new universe of hate for me to reside in
[12:16] <PirateHead> timhaughton: when feisty comes out, it is expected that the majority of users will either upgrade to Feisty
[12:16] <varkatope_> theOlster: rsync maybe a solution
[12:16] <Jowi> Rebecca, you didn't happen to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.17-10-generic to 2.6.17-11-generic by any chance?
[12:17] <juice`> gyaresu: i dont know?
[12:17] <PirateHead> ...or stay with Dapper
[12:17] <PirateHead> hit enter prematurely, sorry
[12:17] <Slike> gyaresu: i got further now, this time xserver attempts to start but fails, saying "no screens found"
[12:17] <timhaughton> PirateHead, OK thanks. I'm still a bit wary of the upgrade, as it totalled my edgy system. Hopefully Mondo will provide a safety net.
[12:17] <juice`> i can't install ubuntu (any version), cdrom fails to be mounted durning instalation, what to do? i tried changing in BIOS from AHCI to IDE or IDE/RAID but that doesnt help! pci=noacpi and acpi=off doesnt do anything either. please help me someone
[12:17] <Rebecca> Jowi: not intentionally. im checking now though
[12:17] <gyaresu> rylan: Did you read what 'alien' is? It makes you a .deb package for installation. I'm trying to make it easier, not harder for you.
[12:17] <theOlster> varkatope_: Thanks, I'll have a look at that...
[12:17] <timhaughton> PirateHead, I meant it totalled my Dapper system, when upgrading to Edgy.
[12:18] <PirateHead> timhaughton: I never upgrade anymore. I just put stuff I want to keep between installations on a different partition, and completely reinstall the OS from scratch.
[12:18] <rylan> gyaresu, ubotu said it was dangerous, people should listen to robots. just look how it turned out for will robinson
[12:18] <PirateHead> timhaughton: I've also had my share of bad "upgrade" experiences, and find that a fresh install every 6 months is nice for housecleaning too
[12:18] <Jowi> Rebecca, I just filed a bug for 2.6.17-11-generic. I got constant USB failures/disconnects/reconnects on that kernel. this might not be connected to your problem though, just wanted to let you know.
[12:18] <techie> rylan what was dangerous! I just came in and did not want to mess up my system either!
[12:18] <timhaughton> Prinsessa, Yeah, I'll probably do that too, then try the upgrade, just in case it works :)
[12:19] <rylan> techie, danger will robinson DANGER
[12:19] <timhaughton> Prinsessa, Sorry, I meant PirateHead
[12:19] <gyaresu> rylan: Yeah. But does ubuotu speak chinese?
[12:19] <rylan> gyaresu, it can
[12:19] <techie> gyaresu.. Chinese? ni hao
[12:19] <gyaresu> !cn
[12:19] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:20] <bill-nz> techie: using alien to install rpms in debian
[12:20] <techie> bill-nz thanks for filling me in
[12:20] <PirateHead> bill-nz: why?
[12:20] <Rebecca> Jowi: hmmm. nope. im on 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:20] <PirateHead> bill-nz: why not just repackage them into debian format?
[12:20] <techie> any of you guys know the best way to run window programs in ubutnu edgy?
[12:21] <bill-nz> PirateHead: because debian isn't redhat :p
[12:21] <gyaresu> juice`: Sorry it's a troubling one. It's a new machine so I'm certain you need to pass some boot parameter to stop it choking.
[12:21] <varkatope_> techie: wine
[12:21] <techie> I already mounted windows and can read all but not execute programs...
[12:21] <PirateHead> techie: either wine (crossover), or cedega (for games)
[12:21] <gyaresu> techie: VirtualBox
[12:21] <gyaresu> !virtualbox | techie
[12:21] <ubotu> techie: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[12:21] <rylan> gyaresu, btw im using edgy not dapper. just incase something comes up where there is a differance
[12:21] <PirateHead> gyaresu: that is not running windows programs IN ubuntu edgy =P
[12:21] <Xif> Hi. Where do I check if Ubuntu Edgy correctly recognized my monitor, and change it if necessary?
[12:21] <techie> how do i know whether wine is already installed in my system or is that part of ubuntu 6.10?
[12:21] <gyaresu> PirateHead: True.
[12:22] <PirateHead> techie: it is not part of ubuntu 6.10. You will have to install it.
[12:22] <Xif> techie: it's not a part of Edgy
[12:22] <gyaresu> techie: 'apt-cache search wine'
[12:22] <varkatope_> Xif: /var/log/Xorg.0.log to change: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:22] <PirateHead> techie: to check, open a terminal and type 'wine -v'
[12:22] <Xif> techie: apt-cache policy wine
[12:22] <gyaresu> techie: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep -i wine
[12:22] <techie> gyaresu i nstalled it yesterday and somehow their deb seems to be corrupted, i had a heck of a time uninstalling it.
[12:22] <Xif> varkatope_: thanks, was hoping for some GUI way.
[12:22] <PirateHead> techie: rather, just type 'wine'
[12:23] <bill-nz> techie: you can use the Synaptic Package Manager under the system menu and if it's got a green box beside wine, it's installed. if the box is white, it's not installed
[12:23] <PirateHead> techie: if you have wine installed, it will print out a little blurb. otherwise, it will say command not found.
[12:23] <varkatope_> Xif: there is a gui app for xserver-setup, just forgot the name
[12:23] <rylan> i think my computer wants a dr. pepper
[12:23] <sjust1216> anyone know anything about printing on a usb port
[12:23] <techie> Piratehead, you guys know lots! This is my 6th day in Ubuntu!
[12:23] <varkatope_> Xif: xorg-edit is the name
[12:23] <gyaresu> techie: Remove all downloaded packages with 'apt-get clean'
[12:23] <PirateHead> techie: if you heart tech support and like extra features to tinker with, you can pay for Crossover Wine -- otherwise, you can install free wine and do your own tech support
[12:23] <pi_> hi guys
[12:24] <whieimhere> Im looking for a tutorial on how to split large MPEG or AVI files into two or more pieces for writing to DVD since I don't have a DVDRW
[12:24] <whieimhere> Any ideas?
[12:24] <Xif> varkatope_: thanks, I'll try it.
[12:24] <pi_> some troubles with login
[12:24] <juice`> i can't install ubuntu (any version), cdrom fails to be mounted durning instalation, what to do? i tried changing in BIOS from AHCI to IDE or IDE/RAID but that doesnt help! pci=noacpi and acpi=off doesnt do anything either. please help me someone
[12:24] <gyaresu> rylan: are you alien'ing the package?
[12:24] <rylan> gyaresu, im in china, im still downloading
[12:24] <varkatope_> Xif: yiou have to put this in your sources.list: deb http://ubuntu.geole.info/ dapper universe multiverse, make sudo apt-get update and the sudo apt-get install xorg-edit
[12:24] <PirateHead> whiemihere: use 7-zip =D
[12:25] <rylan> gyaresu, wooo blazing fast 7.3kb/s
[12:25] <techie> PirateHead got this after the wine - v wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\-v.exe": Module not found
[12:25] <PirateHead> techie: wine is installed on your system, then
[12:25] <Psykus> can anyone help out with ndiswrapper? read the wiki, followed instructions, and it's installed and setup, showing wlan0 as a new interface. ndiswrapper reports that the hardware is detected, only thing is, I can't connect to anything
[12:25] <whieimhere> Piratehead what is that and will it split files?
[12:25] <rylan> techie, wine runs programs, not windows
[12:25] <pi_> login window -> I insert my login and password - 2/3 seconds and the system show another times the login window and I can't login in the system
[12:25] <techie> rylan... ah,
[12:25] <HymnToLife> Psykus, what happens when you try ?
[12:25] <gyaresu> whieimhere: Well you could use 'split' but it's probably messy... or ffmpeg or mencoder (yeah. probably mencoder)
[12:26] <rylan> techie, just run whatever program you need, not the whole OS
[12:26] <techie> PirateHead so if is already installed what is the next step
[12:26] <Psykus> no networks show up in the network config window, and entering in my network information manually does nothing
[12:26] <HymnToLife> hmm
[12:26] <rylan> techie, what are you trying to open exactly?
[12:26] <PirateHead> whiemihere: 7-zip can split a tar archive into volumes, then reconstitute them elsewhere.
[12:26] <techie> rylan... how ?
[12:26] <HymnToLife> what kind of card is it ?
[12:26] <pi_> ctrl-alt F1 - login - and I can login - any idea?
[12:26] <PirateHead> thiemihere: this would accomplish your task by allowing you to transfer each of the archive volumes on a separate disk
[12:26] <techie> let me look exactly and see if I find a simple program to test.
[12:26] <techie> hold on.
[12:26] <rylan> go to the wine website, im not a wine expert or anything i just know what it does
[12:26] <techie> going to windows files to look
[12:26] <Psykus> HymnToLife, motorola wireless g pci card...can't remember the specifics, but I had it working fine on an older version of ubuntu, using ndiswrapper
[12:26] <PirateHead> techie: what Windows program are you trying to run?
[12:27] <HymnToLife> then you might have done something wrong
[12:27] <Jowi> juice`, so the cd boots?
[12:27] <HymnToLife> wrong driver maybe ?
[12:27] <rylan> techie, i know it runs WOW,
[12:27] <Psykus> i think it's one of the bcm chipsets, judging by the file names of the .inf files on the driver cd
[12:27] <Xif> varkatope_: I'd prefer to do it on the text file, but I don't understand what 'Option      "DPMS"' means
[12:27] <techie> PirateHead, none in particular so let me find one and I will tell you.
[12:27] <HymnToLife> Psykus, did you blacklist bcm43xx ?
[12:27] <Psykus> HymnToLife, only two .inf files on the CD, neither worked
[12:27] <Xif> varkatope_: will xorg-edit help me with that?
[12:27] <PirateHead> techie: try typing "wine notepad"
[12:27] <Psykus> HymnToLife, yes
[12:27] <varkatope_> Xif: its the powersaving option done by the monitor itself
[12:27] <HymnToLife> and where did you get the driver you installed ?
[12:27] <juice`> i can't install ubuntu (any version), cdrom fails to be mounted durning instalation, what to do? i tried changing in BIOS from AHCI to IDE or IDE/RAID but that doesnt help! pci=noacpi and acpi=off doesnt do anything either. please help me someone
[12:27] <PirateHead> techie: that will test your installation by running ye olde blande windowes editore
[12:27] <Psykus> ndiswrapper says 'hardware detected' for both .inf files when they're installed and running
[12:28] <Psykus> HymnToLife, driver CD
[12:28] <rylan> gyaresu, damn
[12:28] <HymnToLife> try to look in the ndiswrapper wiki
[12:28] <Psykus> should I get a newer one from the internet?
[12:28] <sjust1216> Why when I plug in an usb printer /dev/lp0 or /dev/usb/lp0 do not get created running edgy
[12:28] <varkatope_> Xif: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPMS
[12:28] <Goneburger> hey there, just studying for my IT diploma, were touching on kernels, can someone tell me why microsofts idea of a kernel is different from that of a unix kernel?
[12:28] <juice`> i can't install ubuntu (any version), cdrom fails to be mounted durning instalation, what to do? i tried changing in BIOS from AHCI to IDE or IDE/RAID but that doesnt help! pci=noacpi and acpi=off doesnt do anything neither. I tried different CD and CD-ROMs. please help me someone.
[12:28] <popetmaster> / server www.irc.cl
[12:28] <Xif> varkatope_: thanks again :)
[12:28] <techie> PirateHEad, I did what you told me wine notepad... This is sooooo COOL when notepad came up!
[12:28] <gyaresu> rylan: alien ryan, alien.
[12:28] <PirateHead> juice`: can you install anything?
[12:29] <techie> it worked
[12:29] <Jowi> juice`, does "any version" include the alternate cd burned at low speed (x2-x4)?
[12:29] <juice`> Goneburger: microsoft has micro-kernel
[12:29] <PirateHead> juice`: like, for example, knoppix?
[12:29] <juice`> no, only ubuntu
[12:29] <techie> PirateHead , so I can do the same with any program?
[12:29] <rdz> !intel mac
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <juice`> debian installs fine
[12:29] <Goneburger> does ubuntu use a monolithic kernel?
[12:29] <rylan> gyaresu, im still at 35% you have enough time to watch the first season before i finish this DL
[12:29] <PirateHead> juice`: microsoft does NOT have a microkernel
[12:29] <juice`> Any version of Ubuntu
[12:29] <Jowi> rdz, what's the problem?
[12:29] <techie> Wow and double Wow!
[12:29] <HymnToLife> Psykus, search for your card here, with it's PCIID http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:29] <HymnToLife> Goneburger, Linux _is_ a monolithic kernel
[12:29] <rdz> Jowi, which ubuntu shoud i download for intel mac mini?
[12:29] <Goneburger> oh
[12:29] <PirateHead> juice`: unless something changed recently...?
[12:30] <varkatope_> PirateHead: and what is ntoskernel.exe??
[12:30] <Goneburger> so whats the advantages of a monolithic kernel over a micro kernel?
[12:30] <PirateHead> techie: not all programs work perfectly with wine
[12:30] <Jowi> rdz, you got the core duo cpu or core 2 duo or something else?
[12:30] <rylan> varkatope_, the boy band of kernals?
[12:30] <dave84> dos2unix where do I get it??
[12:30] <PirateHead> varkatope_: ntoskernel.exe contains a multitude of progrma logic that Windows uses to perform its many tasks
[12:30] <gyaresu> rylan: See you in the pegasus galaxy :) Good luck. (If it doesn't work then think about looking for a plugin for another client)
[12:31] <juice`> PirateHead: yes, i can install anything, like debian, but not ubuntu
[12:31] <techie> Piratehead, i understand and after i got out of the program I had to do a crtl c crl l to clear my terminal because there was an empty white rectangular left there.
[12:31] <neo2dot0> whats the name of the applet that shows battery charge?
[12:31] <Goneburger> is the HAL layer and kernel defined as 'one' in windows?
[12:31] <neo2dot0> i don't mean gnome-power-manager, but the applet
[12:31] <rdz> Jowi, core duo
[12:31] <PirateHead> techie: programs that do not exit with the right code will hang your terminal, yes
[12:31] <Jowi> rdz, the normal desktop-i386 one.
[12:31] <techie> Piratehead, understood.
[12:32] <rdz> Jowi, many thanks
[12:32] <Xif> Can I have a different set of Desktop icons for each desktop (1, 2, 3 etc.)?
[12:32] <Jowi> np rdz
[12:32] <Goneburger> or is the HAL layer something different than a kernel?
[12:32] <neo2dot0> how do i start it in a cli?
[12:32] <PirateHead> techie: as a general tip, I always suggest backing up your ~/.wine directory before installing new programs
[12:32] <Psykus> HymnToLife, thanks...card is WPCI810G PCI Adapter, reading over the notes now
[12:32] <PirateHead> tehchie: that way, if something goes awry, you can just restore the backup
[12:32] <Psykus> says it works with ndiswrapper 0.12
[12:32] <CyberCod> anyone know a good program for remastering an ISO?
[12:32] <HymnToLife> Psykus, search with the pciid, not the card name
[12:32] <techie> Piratehead, do you know about usb? for example trying to send recorded info from handheld recorder to pc via usb cable but ubuntu does not recognize my us ports. there is not thingy connection when i do it.
[12:33] <PirateHead> CyberCod: do you need some feature in particular?
[12:33] <CyberCod> a linux live disk re-mastering program?
[12:33] <juice`> Jowi: well no, i didnt burn ubuntu at low speed, but i tried different cdroms, and CDs and for example, debian works fine.
[12:33] <CyberCod> well... i installed DSL in an old laptop, and I need to basically make a restore disk
 how do you backup wine before installing new programs?
[12:33] <PirateHead> techie: USB is a real mystery to me. I don't understand how the subsystem works in the least.
[12:33] <juice`> Jowi: i don't think this is problem with cdrom itself, they are quite new TDK CDs
[12:33] <sjust1216> does anyone know about printing in ubuntu or where I should go to ask for help
[12:33] <CyberCod> I'm in Ubuntu on my main, (thats where the burner is)
yeap it means that it is about usb
[12:34] <juice`> Jowi: and are readable on other computers
at least i can do lots of other stuff not usb related so i will not worry much
[12:34] <Goneburger> has there ever been any problems with system components and the linux kernel?
[12:34] <Goneburger> like bugs in device drivers?
[12:34] <PirateHead> techie: I usually run this command: 'cp -R ~/.wine ~/winebkups/wine-bkup-todays_date'
[12:34] <Jowi> rdz, I don't dualboot. If you are looking to replace OSX with Ubuntu you can have a look at my site http://burninghands.eu I wrote a piece for myself there in the articles section reg ubuntu install on intel mac mini.
[12:35] <juice`> if anyone could help me, here is a thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377491
[12:35] <PirateHead> techie: then, to restore from your backup, you do 'rm -R ~/.wine; cp -R ~/winebkups/wine-bkup-latest_date ~/.wine'
[12:35] <yunien> why are there versions like ubuntu ultimate? why don't they just work for the "normal" ubuntu?
[12:35] <Jowi> rdz, if you need to dualboot OSX see some other guide though :)
[12:35] <CyberCod> I'd like to be able to install from the disk and get everything back like I got it... it took me a week to customize it
[12:36] <Psykus> HymnToLife, lspci says "01:09.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wirelss LAN Controller (rev 03)", matches the chipset of the one listed on that page
[12:36] <PirateHead> yunien: what is ubuntu ultimate?
[12:36] <knoppix> hello
[12:36] <HymnToLife> ok, you should be fine then
[12:36] <techie> Piratehead i pasted 'cp -R ~/.wine ~/winebkups/wine-bkup-todays_date' and got no such file or directory
[12:36] <PirateHead> hello knoppix
[12:36] <ekul`> finally got my tvout to work, but its a different display and i keep losing my mouse over there. How can i set it up so my tv is a copy of my screen?
[12:36] <yomm> juice : does your pc bios include ide settings like "compatible/enhanced" ... ?
[12:36] <PirateHead> techie: you can't copy files to folders that don't exist
[12:36] <juice`> yomm: don't think so, but this is new motherboard with ICH8
[12:36] <PirateHead> you'll need to create the ~/winebkups folder if you want to backup there
[12:36] <yunien> PirateHead check http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/#1.2
[12:36] <knoppix> hi PirateHead
[12:37] <juice`> yomm: i have AHCI or IDE or IDE/RAID options
so how come the notepad worked before and I did not install it .
[12:37] <Psykus> HymnToLife, ok, going to try with those drivers
[12:37] <juice`> yomm: and i tried all of them, and everything was the same
[12:37] <yomm> juice : check it , if there are , try changing from enhanced to compatible , and see if the cd boots then
when I tried the wine notepad it worked fine
[12:37] <PirateHead> yunien: ubuntu ultimate looks like an extended installation of ubuntu that does configuration for you that you'd otherwise have to do yourself
[12:37] <Goneburger> is IPC basically the same as a system bus?
[12:37] <juice`> yomm: ok, but i think i's for old motherboards, right?
[12:38] <PirateHead> yunien: if you are really bad at configuring things, you might want to get ubuntu ultimate -- if you can figure stuff out, I'd keep your money
[12:38] <Xif> Every time I logoff Edgy, I get the following annoying popup ''These windows do not support "save current setup" and will have to be restarted manually next time you log in.'
[12:38] <yunien> i'd like to configure nothing - just like in windows
[12:38] <yomm> juice : well , I'm still having issues sometimes even on "more" recent boards
[12:38] <Xif> Can I have it just automatically close those?
[12:38] <PirateHead> techie: the fact that notepad worked fine means that the base wine installation is working. Certian "standard" Windows programs, such as notepad and the registry editor, are included by default.
[12:38] <techie> Piratehead is there a collection of commands like the wine notepad etc... that I can have or tuck away in a text editor for later use. Or is there any documentation with all these hacks already in it for reference!
understood
[12:39] <juice`> yomm: ok i will be back in 2-3 minutes
[12:39] <yomm> juice :
[12:39] <PirateHead> techie: if you want to see what is installed in your wine "virtual C:/ drive", run this command: 'nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c'
[12:40] <yomm> juice : I have to set to compatible mode quite often to install/boot things off cd
 with or without the ' ?
[12:40] <yomm> depends on the configuration ...
[12:40] <PirateHead> techie: no '
[12:40] <PirateHead> techie: that is simply to mark the beginning and end of the command I am suggesting
[12:41] <techie> I got two folders one for programs and the other for windows
[12:41] <techie> Piratehead they are both folders.
[12:41] <PirateHead> techie: that's the way it should be. =D
[12:42] <PirateHead> this is going to Drive C in My Computer when you're running Windows
[12:42] <PirateHead> I assume you've used Windows at some point?
[12:42] <IdleOne> Jowi, may I msg you ?
[12:43] <PirateHead> yunien: if you like zero-configuration, I suggest the Linux distribution called Linspire
i have a double boot xp and ubuntu and of the two folders (Programs) inside has a subfolder called common and inside is empty
[12:43] <techie> this whole thing is very cool indeed
[12:43] <kenthomson> NVIDIA DRIVERS HELP; i want the latest official nvidia drivers, do you recommend adding lupine's repos or albert-milone's repos to my sources.list?
[12:43] <PirateHead> yunien: It isn't related to Ubuntu, but it's geared towards people who like to spend their time *using* their comptuer rather than configuring it. =D
[12:43] <Psykus> HymnToLife, still not seeing any networks, installed the driver recommended on that page..do I need to re-modprobe ndiswrapper or anything like that?
[12:43] <rylan> ubotu, alien
[12:43] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:43] <HymnToLife> Psykus, I'd guess so
so let us say I try wine program and it does not work, then how do i install it so it will work, or at least to see if it does
[12:44] <juice`> yomm: no luck
[12:44] <Psykus> HymnToLife, ah, well, I already tried.. sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, put me back at a prompt
[12:44] <PirateHead> techie: I suggest checking the WineHQ AppDB regarding programs you might want to install
[12:44] <techie> how do i do that.
[12:44] <yomm> juice : what settings are there ?
[12:44] <juice`> yomm: i dont have this option
[12:44] <techie> how do i check the winehq appdb
[12:44] <yomm> juice : I see
[12:44] <Jowi> IdleOne, ok
[12:44] <techie> is this a command WineHQ AppDB?
[12:45] <kenthomson> can someone please help me with the repos-for-nvidia drivers question?
[12:45] <juice`> yomm: i have Onboard Sata/IDE Device option
[12:45] <juice`> yomm: which i can enable or disable
[12:45] <Psykus> doing ndiswrapper -l gives me "bcmwl5     driver installed, hardware present"
[12:45] <PirateHead> techie: go to http://appdb.winehq.org and do a search on the sidebar on the left for the name of your program
[12:45] <Psykus> ifconfig shows a wlan0, not configured though
[12:45] <juice`> yomm: also SATA ctrl method, which i can select from AHCI, IDE or IDE/RAID
[12:45] <HymnToLife> Psykus, it definitely should work then, what are you doing next
[12:45] <HymnToLife> ?
[12:45] <Psykus> and no config changes stick
[12:45] <techie> PirateHead, I must run and I will check. thanks a million.
[12:45] <kenthomson> ?
[12:45] <Psykus> HymnToLife, going to the network configuration in ubuntu, trying to setup a network
[12:46] <PirateHead> techie: have fun, cheers, and good luck.
[12:46] <yomm> juice : but nothing in the likes of compatibility ?
[12:46] <juice`> yomm: nope
[12:46] <yomm> juice , I see , i'm out of ideas then :/
[12:46] <HymnToLife> Psykus, have you tried using the command line to configure it ?
[12:46] <Psykus> HymnToLife, well, there's already one going..it just doesn't show any SSIDs in the list
[12:46] <juice`> yomm: it is Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 motherboard
[12:46] <rylan> can anyone gimme a hand with getting an RPM package to work? somethign about Alien?
[12:46] <PirateHead> juice`: I hate Gigabyte stuff. =P
[12:46] <juice`> yomm: if you think about anything, please leave an idea at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377491
[12:46] <yomm> k
[12:46] <Psykus> HymnToLife, what command do I need to use?
[12:46] <PirateHead> juice`: get a nice FIC motherboard
[12:46] <rylan> the guy who was helping me left to watch battlestar or something like that
[12:46] <PirateHead> that's my crappy advice
[12:47] <juice`> PirateHead: i just bought it and it's nice ;)
[12:47] <A[D] minS> how i can change IP by command line and make it my default IP?
[12:47] <A[D] minS> !eth*
[12:47] <A[D] minS> !ethX
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <juice`> PirateHead: XBitlabs reviewed it high, and i personally think it's good motherboard. quite cheap for what i get
[12:48] <PirateHead> juice: enjoy it, then. =D
[12:48] <juice`> i never liked gigabyte too though, but i never liked intel too, and i haven conroe
[12:48] <juice`> so far, i enjoy ubuntu
[12:48] <PirateHead> juice: if you're savvy enough, I'd just suggest skipping Ubuntu and installing Debian
[12:48] <juice`> seems like a good idea, a shame though people on #ubuntu suggest using another OS
[12:48] <Psykus> nevermind, found it
[12:48] <PirateHead> juice`: I have no loyalty. =P
[12:49] <rylan> can anyone gimme a hand with getting an RPM package to work? somethign about Alien?
[12:49] <defrysk> rylan, what package and why ?
[12:49] <PirateHead> juice`:  besides, Ubuntu is based on Debian, uses many of the same programs as Debian does, etc. Debian is well-established as a high-quality OS.
[12:49] <juice`> guess Ubuntu had it days, and now it isnt even able to install itself on 4-5 months old machine
[12:50] <rylan> defrysk, openq and because the tar.bz is farked
[12:50] <HymnToLife> Psykus, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid YOUR_ESSID key YOUR_WEP_KEY
[12:50] <PirateHead> juice`: it's a real shame that it won't Just Work(tm), and unforunately I have no experience relevant to how you might get things working. I hope somebody answers your forum post.
[12:50] <Xif> Is there a keybinding to focus on icons in the taskbar?
[12:50] <rylan> i tried getting debian, gave up, ubuntu is easier for newbs
[12:51] <sjust1216> rylan try checking out this page http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[12:51] <rylan> sjust1216, danke
[12:52] <juice`> rylan: i have the exact opposite experience
[12:52] <sjust1216> no prob
[12:52] <afflux> do I need the avahi-daemon if I'm alone in my network?
[12:52] <yomm> does debian still use Xfree86 ?
[12:52] <rylan> juice`, really, i got ubuntu to work on random chinese motherboard plus frankenstien equipment
[12:52] <tschaka> lol
[12:52] <juice`> i think it uses xorg or whatever it is called
[12:53] <yomm> juice : i dont think it uses xorg
[12:53] <rylan> well i think it uses gremlins
[12:53] <juice`> hmmm http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian
[12:53] <rylan> high quality gremlins. not slave trade korean gremlins like Win XP
[12:53] <juice`> well, it has xorg as available package, that's for sure ;)
[12:54] <sjust1216> I have ubuntu running on a five yr old hp 633 celeron 512 ram for two weeks straight no prob
[12:54] <juice`> no idea what's default
[12:54] <Tommis> Hey, any reason why gnome pannel keeps crashing on my ubuntu comp? I have uninstalled it, and installed it, but no luck. Right know i have that "gnome pannel" uninstalled. Any fix and reason for this? :/
[12:54] <juice`> i have debians running all over the place, but i installed my friend ubuntu becouse heard it's 'easy'. :|
[12:54] <yomm> Piratehead : any idea on Debian default X ?
[12:55] <juice`> maybe someone defending Ubuntu will have pity on me and help me out ...
[12:55] <ekul`> screwed up my xorg, how can i restore it with my backup?
[12:55] <sjust1216> I have been having problems with my gnome-panel as well
[12:55] <juice`> with my installation problem
[12:55] <yomm> juice : go VISTA !
[12:55] <juice`> ;)
[12:55] <juice`> go Vista yourself!
[12:55] <yomm> vistaaaaaaah :)
[12:55] <Tommis> Microsoft, laugh
[12:55] <Psykus> no no no no
[12:56] <kane77> yomm, ehm.. you sure?
[12:56] <rylan> lol
[12:56] <juice`> vista you all
[12:56] <BeowulfOF> Vista has crap
[12:56] <juice`> let's not swear
[12:56] <juice`> (vista)
[12:56] <Psykus> HymnToLife, still no changes, trying to configure it with iwconfig does the same thing pretty much, puts me back to a command prompt, no changes
[12:56] <yomm> -> VistaBuntu <--
[12:57] <Psykus> going to try installing the older version of ndiswrapper
[12:57] <juice`> no replies :( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377491
[12:58] <afflux> juice`: when exactly does it stop?
[12:58] <rylan> anyone help me with getting an RPM to work.
[12:58] <yomm> kane77 : as sure as I was serious :)
[12:58] <GreenD> rylan
[12:58] <GreenD> Use alien.
[12:58] <rylan> how
[12:58] <kane77> is there any app that would do something like 'watch' does only in GUI (or applet)??
[12:58] <GreenD> Convert to deb.
[12:58] <rylan> GreenD, how.
[12:58] <GreenD> sudo aot-get install alien.
[12:59] <GreenD> man alien, and learn.
[12:59] <Bantroth> does anyone here have the time to help me?
[12:59] <GreenD> Bantroth, ask.
[12:59] <lisette> SONDERBLADE:jag ep xchat. ska ner till tvttstugan kommer om 10 min. lisette
[12:59] <Bantroth> Im having some networking problems
[12:59] <HymnToLife> Psykus, that's normawl, why should it output something ?
[12:59] <Bantroth> and I dont understand why route -n gives me 2 eth1s
[12:59] <GreenD> Elaborate.
[01:00] <`nicola> I've got a strange problem: when I hit "up" Xchat does not rewrite what I wrote, and the same happens in the terminal... (the key "up" works). what could it be ? thanks
[01:00] <HymnToLife> now use dhclient to connect, if your network is usig dhcp
[01:00] <GreenD> Is it giving you any problems though?
[01:00] <rylan> GreenD, ok, while this is installing, can you explain how it works?
[01:00] <PirateHead> yomm: no clue on debian default X
[01:00] <PirateHead> yomm: ask in #debian maybe? =D
[01:00] <Psykus> HymnToLife, I meant, it didn't output anything, like it worked, but nothing actually happened, I go back, and no ssid is set
[01:00] <Bantroth> yeah.. Im having some problems
[01:00] <GreenD> I don't remember, but do a man alien and learn. It was easy.
[01:00] <Bantroth> if you want me to I can elaborate the problems
[01:00] <GreenD> Sure
[01:00] <rylan> ubotu, alien
[01:00] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:01] <HymnToLife> yomm, Xorg in Etch and higher
[01:01] <rylan> damn you ubotu, too vague
[01:01] <juice`> yomm: just asked, it's Xorg
[01:01] <juice`> yomm: so i was right
[01:01] <yomm> :p
[01:01] <yomm> xorg it is :)
[01:01] <juice`> unless you mean some pre-historic version of debian like sarge
[01:02] <Rebecca> is it possible to restart my usb modules/system?
[01:02] <yomm> nah the latest
[01:02] <sjust1216> rylan sudo alien -k name_of_pckg.rpm and it will creat a .deb file which you can install
[01:02] <Ubuntu_Luv_slut> hi
[01:02] <afflux> hey, does anyone know wether I need the avahi-daemon, if I'm alone in my network?
[01:02] <juice`> stupid ICH8 :(
[01:02] <Bantroth> GreenD Im having problems connecting to my router, when I ping it, I get 100% packet loss, when I access the internet, DNS lookup is very slow, and all the other (windows) comps work on the network,
[01:02] <juice`> hey, one thing
[01:02] <slinky> Does Ubuntu 64-bit support ATI CrossFire X850 video cards in CrossFire mode?
[01:02] <rylan> sjust1216, thanks
[01:02] <juice`> what kernel version Alpha 5 uses to install ??
[01:03] <juice`> if it's 2.6.17 then i know why i can't install it
[01:03] <yomm> juice : feisty should be a newer kernel i i think
[01:03] <juice`> which one exactly?
[01:04] <HymnToLife> 2.6.20
[01:04] <juice`> are you sure?
[01:04] <Psykus> ugh
[01:04] <sjust1216> I have a nautilus script so thats it is in my right click menu when I choose a .rpm file to make it easy
[01:04] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:04] <Psykus> ugh
[01:04] <juice`> damn, then i have no clues.
[01:04] <Sbreeze> Anybody know if I can install IP Masq easy?
[01:04] <juice`> HymnToLife: maybe you will have idea what to do?
[01:04] <Ubuntu_Luv_slut> grEEKy
[01:04] <HymnToLife> what's the problem ?
[01:04] <Ubuntu_Luv_slut> GreenD
[01:04] <grEEKy> yes
[01:04] <grEEKy> ?
[01:04] <Ubuntu_Luv_slut> I need some help
[01:04] <grEEKy> whats up?
[01:04] <SoulW> lol
[01:04] <grEEKy> :E
[01:04] <Ubuntu_Luv_slut> sorry i meant GreenD
[01:04] <juice`> HymnToLife: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377491
[01:04] <adamus> hi, can anyone give me a brief answer to an LDAP config question?
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[01:06] <sjust1216> and Hobbsee
[01:06] <afflux> what the...?
[01:06] <HymnToLife> juice`, Live CD or Alternate ?
[01:07] <juice`> HymnToLife: LiveCD
[01:07] <juice`> HymnToLife: does it matter?
[01:07] <HymnToLife> juice`, try the alternate then
[01:07] <juice`> you mean server install ?
[01:07] <HymnToLife> no
[01:08] <HymnToLife> I mean the Alternatce CD
[01:08] <HymnToLife> it will install a "standard" system but the installer is text-based
[01:08] <afflux> text-mode installer
[01:08] <rEsPeCT> t
[01:08] <m4n> ps2 mouse is not working with my laptop
[01:08] <m4n> nc6400
[01:08] <juice`> hmm i wonder where is it
[01:08] <juice`> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-March/000256.html
[01:08] <techie> just one fast question, how do I find out which version of wine I am using in my Ubuntu system?
[01:09] <juice`> not here
[01:09] <magnushc> is it only me, or is the nes emulator that comes whit ubuntu real slow?
[01:09] <slinky> Does anyone know if 64-bit ubuntu will support ATI X850 CrossFire cards runniing in CrossFire Mpde?
[01:09] <juice`> and i have to use 2.6.20 kernel installation i suppose
[01:09] <juice`> since i have ICH8 chipset
[01:09] <HymnToLife> is it supported only in 2.6.20 kernel ?
[01:09] <ardchoille> Back in a bit :)
[01:09] <juice`> HymnToLife: and 2.6.19
[01:09] <juice`> but 6.10 is 2.6.17
[01:10] <HymnToLife> I guess your only option is Feisty then
[01:10] <juice`> which is a shame, a wanted to help a friend recreate his errors on his 6.06
[01:10] <juice`> but oh well.
[01:10] <albert> hola
[01:10] <juice`> this is the page where is feisty https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-March/000256.html
[01:10] <juice`> where is alternate version? :|
[01:11] <techie> can anybody tell me the wine version used with ubuntu 6.10 edgy
[01:11] <techie> ?
[01:11] <juice`> oh sorry.
[01:11] <juice`> nevermind.
[01:11] <rylan> why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:11] <adamus> can anyone tell me what DN to use for LDAP when I only want to have passwd stuff shared, but don't have a domain name?
[01:11] <afflux> techie: apt-cache policy wine
[01:11] <techie> thanks afflux
[01:11] <sjust1216> can anyone tell me why /dev/lp0 or /dev/usb/lp0 would not be created when I plug in a usb printer
[01:12] <sjust1216> running 6.10
[01:12] <steven43126> adamus, you can use whatever DN you want
[01:12] <Psykus> ok, now i've probably messed something up, HymnToLife, "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument"
[01:12] <rylan> ok, i just installed a pluggin for gaim. and restarted gaim. nothing happened. do i need to restart or did some magical "anti-rylan" hit my computer and made it so that nothing is going to work
[01:12] <steven43126> adamus, it's just for LDAP's organisational purposes
[01:12] <HymnToLife> Psykus, reinstall it :)
[01:12] <Psykus> (when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper, after reinstalling it)
[01:12] <Psykus> ^
[01:12] <mkittus> albert
[01:12] <HymnToLife> ow
[01:12] <albert> que
[01:12] <HymnToLife> I mean, reinstall ndiwsrapper, not your inf
[01:13] <geertjan> testing 1 2 3
[01:13] <Psykus> right
[01:13] <mkittus> albert
[01:13] <ekul`> When i get into Gnome now i can move the mouse around but i cant click on anything -- not on the desktop or icons or any of the things in the top bit :(
[01:13] <Psykus> i'll try installing the newer version again
[01:13] <mkittus> :p
[01:13] <Psykus> ugh, getting oddball hardware working on linux is such a pain
[01:14] <rylan> ok, i just installed a pluggin for gaim. and restarted gaim. nothing happened. do i need to restart or did some magical "anti-rylan" particle hit my computer and made it so that nothing is going to work
[01:14] <Psykus> if all hardware worked, I wouldn't have a problem getting a linux system up and running with everything
[01:14] <juice`> HymnToLife: but how Alternate CD will help me if my CD-ROM doesnt want to be mounted?
[01:14] <HymnToLife> juice`, it might have the correct driver for it
[01:15] <HymnToLife> unlike the Desktop
[01:15] <juice`> feisty-alternate has additional drivers?
[01:15] <predaeus> rylan, is the plugin in Tools/Plugins?
[01:15] <Psykus> ugh, nothing is working
[01:15] <rylan> preaction, nay it is not.
[01:15] <juice`> but i used different CD-ROMs to try this, and that didnt help too
[01:15] <juice`> both are not supported? one of them is 2 years old
[01:15] <Psykus> iwconfig eth1 essid "lan party"
[01:16] <Psykus> (eth1 is the wifi adapter, for some reason, lan party is my network)
[01:16] <Psykus> i go back to iwconfig..
[01:16] <predaeus> rylan, is it from the repo?
[01:16] <Psykus> "Access Point: Not-Associated"
[01:16] <rylan> preaction, nay it is also not from the repo
[01:16] <juice`> thank you for advice, so many people so many advice, im doing everything people tells me to do and still nothing :( i will try installing alternate CD but im 100% sure it wont help.
[01:16] <rylan> predaeus, sorry no it is now
[01:16] <Psykus> course I do sudo first
[01:17] <juice`> like all other advices. there is something wrong with ICH8 + cdrom + kernel + bios options, and i guess i need someone who understands what is it
[01:17] <predaeus> rylan, did you check if the plugin installed into the correct location? like checking the files the repo packages provide and looking for plugin files there?
[01:18] <juice`> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=372325&highlight=ICH8
[01:18] <juice`> ok other people having the same problem
[01:19] <juice`> and being ignored or given false advices. so i guess the question is, when Ubuntu developers will care enough to fix this old bug?
[01:19] <rylan> predaeus, looks like everything installed properly. i wasnt given an option for where to install it.
[01:20] <predaeus> rylan, looks like for me, gaim plugins are located in /usr/lib64/gaim (I am not using an Ubuntu package though). You can check the location in synaptic with properties/installed files.
[01:20] <predaeus> rylan, did you try running gaim in the console to see if it shows error messages? But I actually do not know if it would.
[01:21] <PirateHead> juice`: evidently, few people understand the problem
[01:21] <kane77> is there any app that would do something like 'watch' does only in GUI (or applet)??
[01:21] <rylan> predaeus, and no it shows no error messages
[01:21] <PirateHead> juice`: you need to find or submit a relevant bugzilla entry, not rely on the unofficial forums
[01:22] <predaeus> rylan, did you locate the plugin in that gaim directory?
[01:22] <PirateHead> juice`: if you find an old bugzilla entry, try to get the train moving again by sending out a few emails
[01:22] <rylan> predaeus, working on that. girlfriend is litterally lying on me
[01:22] <predaeus> *g*
[01:23] <PirateHead> rylan: that is the best and only way to debug your computer
[01:23] <rylan> PirateHead, i do not agree, its very hard to concentrate
[01:23] <PirateHead> rylan: but it gives you a +2 luck bonus!
[01:23] <rylan> predaeus, i found something to do with it in usr/share/gaim
[01:24] <Ayabara> has anyone managed to run Joost under wine?
[01:24] <rylan> PirateHead, -40 to preception
[01:25] <predaeus> rylan, hm I've got no /usr/share/gaim. But that can be me. (not an Ubuntu package). So if there is other gaim stuff there it should be ok, if not, then the plugin instlaled into the wrong location.
[01:25] <rylan> predaeus, the only thing there is the gaim thing
[01:25] <rylan> er pluggin in downloaded.
[01:25] <rylan> predaeus, and slightly differantly named
[01:25] <juice`> PirateHead: ok, i will try that
[01:26] <rylan> predaeus, i had to convert this pluggin from an RPM to a DEB maybe its a little differant where it put's it in redhat
[01:27] <predaeus> ah. ok so it's at the wrong location. You could just move the files to the right location. But they might not get uninstalled then if you uninstall gaim later. A better option would be to create a symbolic link in the right location to the files in the wrong location. That should work.
[01:27] <rylan> predaeus,  and the other thing is that the pluggin is a .dat instead of a .so
[01:27] <juice`> PirateHead: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/64574
[01:27] <juice`> might be this one
[01:28] <predaeus> rylan, hm no idea. I think it should be an .so somewhere too.
[01:28] <juice`> or maybe not, as CDROM is on ICH8 not JMicron
[01:28] <juice`> although i have JMicron on my board
[01:28] <juice`> no, not this one. ok nevermind
[01:28] <rylan> predaeus, will i need gypsies to do this. or perhaps a voodoo doctor, or shaman.
[01:28] <predaeus> rylan, there is a #gaim channel maybe they know about specifics about that plugin.
[01:29] <rylan> predaeus, ill try that
[01:29] <ekul`> When i get into Gnome now it freezes, i can move the mouse but cant click on anything. Any ideas?
[01:29] <rdz> hello i want to install ubuntu on a mini mac and i'd like to keep the osx installation. can ubuntu resize the hfs+-partition somehow?
[01:29] <Psykus> i don't know what else to do, this wireless just refuses to work
[01:30] <macsim> hi, I use fireglcontrol to configure my dual screen, it told me that my configuration change and I have to reboot X, when I did that it still clone screen :/ any idea ?
[01:30] <predaeus> ekul`, I have that aswell from time to time. Sometimes hitting ESC helps. *g*
[01:30] <ekul`> Thanks, i will try
[01:30] <predaeus> or ALT-Tab not sure.
[01:30] <aluno__> ola
[01:30] <predaeus> But it happens while running with me, not when login in.
[01:30] <sebaskate> witam
[01:30] <sebaskate> hello
[01:31] <ekul`> Ahh
[01:31] <ekul`> its straight after login for me
[01:31] <aluno__> kalabra/nick
[01:31] <ekul`> happened when i restored my xorg config too, which i dont get cause theb ackup worked fine
[01:31] <geertjan> hmm
[01:32] <PirateHead> juice`: have you tried using LILO?
[01:32] <geertjan> hello people of ubuntu
[01:32] <geertjan> i come in peace
[01:32] <PirateHead> juice`: might that possibly help anything?
[01:32] <aluno__> aho iguana
[01:32] <aluno__> da pra colar nas provas aqui
[01:32] <Robinsjostrom> when is next stable release coming?
[01:32] <aluna> uiaaaaaaaa curti isso aki......hahhah
[01:32] <aluna> agora vai estudar seu inutill!
[01:32] <aluno__> vai esudar vc ow
[01:33] <aluno__> to descobrindo como colar aqui
[01:33] <PirateHead> aluno__: most people here speak English, and you probably won't get in any other language.
[01:33] <aluna> primeiro vc tem q descobrir de kem colar uauuauhuha
[01:34] <geertjan> so uh...
[01:34] <geertjan> could i ask something about reporting bugs?
[01:34] <PirateHead> You can ask anything you like.
[01:34] <geertjan> ah yes, but is there a chance of getting an answer here? :)
[01:34] <PirateHead> The best idea is to ask and see if anybody answers, rather than asking whether you can ask or whether somebody can help you,.
[01:34] <geertjan> hehe touche
[01:35] <PirateHead> This room is best for getting help specifically related to Ubuntu. If you had a problem with, say, bugzilla, this would not be the right place to ask.
[01:35] <nalioth> !es | aluno__
[01:35] <ubotu> aluno__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:35] <Robinsjostrom> dont ask to ask
[01:35] <aluno__> sorry man
[01:36] <geertjan> anyway was just wondering what the deal is with all programs on launchpad being there twice... once in launchpad.net/name and once in launchpad.net/ubuntu...
[01:36] <PirateHead> Probably because launchpad is wierd.
[01:36] <geertjan> so what is the best place to report a bug?
[01:36] <geertjan> of the two locations
[01:37] <PirateHead> This is a bug with Ubuntu specifically, not one of the Ubuntu apps?
[01:37] <geertjan> no, let's say a Totem bug... would i go to launchpad.net/totem or launchpad.net/ubuntu/something/totem?
[01:37] <Xif> Anyone knows how to make the tabs in Firefox2 (Edgy) simple, instead of round-cornered?
[01:38] <aluno__> =x
[01:38] <Rebecca> is it possible to restart my usb modules/system?
[01:38] <PirateHead> First, I would make sure to do your homework.
[01:38] <PirateHead> Are you positive that it is a Totem bug and not a Gstreamer/Xine bug?
[01:39] <PirateHead> If you are, then list on Gnome's bugzilla tracker for Gnome, not on Launchpad.
[01:39] <geertjan> no :) don't worry I'm not going to haste into posting bugs... I was just wondering about this specific question...
[01:40] <Robinsjostrom> can i ask to ask a question?
[01:40] <PirateHead> If you want your bug report to be useful, you need to narrow the bug down as much as possible, then report to the most relevant and specific bug tracker.
[01:40] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom please do so
[01:40] <geertjan> hmhm, hmhm, ok, ok
[01:40] <geertjan> *nods*
[01:40] <geertjan> ok, i'll do some more research
[01:40] <Robinsjostrom> okey here it comes......can i ask a question?
[01:41] <geertjan> thanks PirateHead
[01:41] <PirateHead> The reason that Launchpad sucks, in my opinion, is that it tries to be a giant bug repository, where what is needed is reporting of bugs directly to their individual bugtrackers.
[01:41] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom ask it
[01:41] <PirateHead> No problem Geertjan, good luck.
[01:41] <daviey> PirateHead, decentralising *everything*?
[01:41] <ikonia_> PirateHead log a request to improve launchpad
[01:41] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: i have no question im just being silly
[01:41] <PirateHead> lol@ikonia
[01:41] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom please don't, its a busy channel
[01:41] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: thanks for offering help though
[01:42] <geertjan> hehe
[01:42] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom no problem
[01:42] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: im here to cool you down then
[01:42] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom I'm fine thank you
[01:42] <PirateHead> davley: decentralization helps developers find the relevant bugs, rather than swimming through masses of general cruft
[01:42] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: you seem a bit stressed up
[01:42] <kane77> is there any app that would do something like 'watch' does only in GUI (or applet)??
[01:43] <anushsh> #linux-india
[01:43] <zax1> can any point to a torrent link to download ubuntu LIVE CD
[01:44] <PirateHead> kane77: you could easily write such an app using your favorite scripting language and WxWidgets, if you're so inclined
[01:44] <Toma-> kane77: not really... since watch is a CLI app, thats used to monitor CLI apps
[01:44] <PirateHead> I don't know of any established GUI app offhand.
[01:45] <PirateHead> zax1: let me look
[01:45] <zax1> can any point to a torrent link to download ubuntu LIVE CD
[01:45] <Enselic``> !webcam
[01:45] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:45] <zax1> PirateHead: thanks
[01:45] <geertjan> zax1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:45] <livingdaylight> Q: for burning .avi to i choose made dvd project or burn iso to dvd?
[01:45] <PirateHead> zax1: what version of the ubuntu liveCD are you interested in?
[01:46] <zax1> PirateHead: not sure, i suppose the latest one...
[01:46] <kane77> Toma-, what I need is gui app(let) that would monitor cli app...
[01:47] <PirateHead> zax1: which architecture are you using?
[01:47] <PirateHead> x86?
[01:47] <zax1> intel
[01:47] <zax1> i think
[01:47] <Toma-> kane77: try 'xterm -e nameofCLIapp'
[01:47] <PirateHead> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[01:47] <PirateHead> ought to be what you're looking for
[01:47] <Toma-> kane77: errrm. 'xterm -e 'watch commandline app''
[01:48] <Toma-> actually, dont use '
[01:48] <kane77> Toma-, thanx.. that does pretty much it :)
[01:48] <Toma-> kane77: np!
[01:48] <kane77> Toma-, although I will use devislpie on it :)
[01:48] <livingdaylight> Q: for burning .avi to i choose made dvd project or burn iso to dvd
[01:49] <Toma-> what the heck is that?
[01:49] <kane77> Toma-, a cool app that can do things like get you rid of window edges, dock it to certain workspace etc...
[01:50] <Toma-> kane77: ahh right. im suing e17 here and i can already do that :P
[01:50] <Toma-> *using
[01:50] <zax1> PirateHead: id this a live cd ? or an install cd
[01:50] <PirateHead> Toma-, et all: E17 ftw
[01:50] <Toma-> *nod*
[01:51] <Slike> some package is broken on an ubuntu system, how do i fix this from command line?
[01:51] <PirateHead> zax1: It is both. It will boot into the LiveCD, and there's an icon on the desktop that lets you install if/when you choose.
[01:51] <zax1> great, thanks
[01:51] <PirateHead> no problem, enjoyl.
[01:51] <Toma-> Slike: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:51] <rylan> so, i figured out why i had all these problems with gaim.
[01:51] <rylan> its outdated.
[01:51] <rylan> even on edgy
[01:51] <PirateHead> yeah, it's nice to have the latest version
[01:51] <rylan> its like V2.0 on edgy and they are up to like v6
[01:52] <livingdaylight> Q: for burning .avi to i choose made dvd project or burn iso to dvd
[01:52] <geertjan> nah latest version 2.0v6 rylan
[01:52] <geertjan> not 6.0
[01:52] <rylan> i was being facetious
[01:52] <PirateHead> Gaim better be friggin' transcendental by 6.0
[01:52] <rylan> nice word piratehead!
[01:53] <geertjan> oh
[01:53] <geertjan> you jest
[01:53] <rylan> i thought i was doing well with facetious
[01:53] <PirateHead> The thing I would like to see most in Gaim is a skin that makes it look like "wow".
[01:54] <ubm> microsoft wants to charge 4 Grand for DST Time change update for any product not in there 'mainstream' support phase.. can you guys believe that crap...
[01:54] <livingdaylight> for burning .avi movie do i choose iso or simply dvd project?
[01:54] <geertjan> noooo no skins
[01:54] <livingdaylight> are there any k3b gurus in the house?
[01:54] <Slike> is there a way to make the package management uninstall a broken package?
[01:54] <daviey> Is anybody here using network-manager (nm-applet) with WPA Enterprise & TTLS?
[01:54] <PirateHead> I fully appreciate that Gaim can fit into your desktop -- but it would be nice to make it really pretty, too.
[01:54] <Toma-> livingdaylight: i can give you a sexy script for it if you like?
[01:55] <livingdaylight> Toma-, ?
[01:55] <geertjan> but couldn't you just make your whole gnome look really pretty? that would affect gaim too
[01:55] <foxiness> PirateHead:hi, can i stop the message comes form chanserv-freenode-nickserv on Gaim?
[01:55] <Toma-> livingdaylight: i made a commandline avi-->dvd converter since i hate all the crappy guis wasting cpu time
[01:56] <PirateHead> foxiness: that is easy. Disable your freenode IRC account in Accounts
[01:56] <PirateHead> foxiness: if you use Firefox, you might also want to install ChatZilla. It's a firefox extension that gives a very nice interface for IRC.
[01:57] <PirateHead> Far better than either mIRC, BersIRC, or Gaim -- in my opinion, anyways.
[01:57] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: whats wrong with irssi?
[01:57] <livingdaylight> Toma-, you need to convert .avi? i thought you just dump it to a dvd?
[01:57] <PirateHead> @geertjan, re: making Gnome look beautiful: I don't necessarily want excessive eye-candy on every one of my Gnome apps.
[01:57] <Toma-> livingdaylight: heck no.
[01:58] <GenNMX> Dammit, anyone good at getting DRI working on dual-head setups? I've been trying for days to get DRI working w/ my ATI Radeon 7000 on either head.
[01:58] <Toma-> livingdaylight: UNLESS your dvd player has divx playback
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Toma-, damn :s
[01:58] <PirateHead> RObinsjostrom: I don't know what irssi is.
[01:58] <Toma-> livingdaylight: its pretty simple. ill throw it up on pastebin
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Toma-, prolly not. oh man maybe you can help me out then
[01:58] <geertjan> PirateHead: ok fair enough
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Toma-, thx :D
[01:58] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: http://www.irssi.org/
[01:59] <Slike> i always get the error "failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true", even after apt-get clean, apt-get -f install
[02:00] <Slike> i tried to install a package directly by issuing dpkg -i, but that failed
[02:00] <Slike> since then i'm having these problems
[02:00] <Slike> so i'd like to clear it out somehow
[02:00] <Slike> make it work again
[02:00] <PirateHead> Robinjostrom: irssi looks ugly to me. I like FoxChat primarily because it's an extension of Firefox and thus has good integration, and because it looks very neat.
[02:01] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: buuuut its the client of the future. beat that mofo
[02:01] <PirateHead> Using FoxChat increases my readability and helps me follow conversations despite clutter.
[02:01] <pty> Robinsjostrom: lol
[02:01] <PirateHead> Future nothing, I want a beauty-full IRC client NOW!
[02:01] <johnnyfive> whats beter gnome or kde
[02:02] <PirateHead> johnnyfive: fluxbox
[02:02] <jack_> lol
[02:02] <RickHahn13> try gnome if you are new
[02:02] <PirateHead> johnnyfive: Windows Explorer ftw!
[02:02] <johnnyfive> what about fxce4
[02:02] <RickHahn13> g'mornin all, btw
[02:02] <jack_> Just use gnome
[02:02] <Toma-> livingdaylight: youre in a PAL area right?
[02:02] <jack_> Gnome is nice and balanced
[02:02] <PirateHead> johnnyfive: use IceWM
[02:03] <PirateHead> johnnyfive: Enlightenment is the best obviously
[02:03] <jack_> johnnyfive:  GNOME
[02:03] <PirateHead> My point is, it totally depends on your preferences and what you want from your window manager.
[02:03] <nknwd> hello. what can i do in order for my Kubuntu system to perform the update process automatically?
[02:03] <livingdaylight> Toma-, U.K is pal, i think so
[02:04] <sixvoltsystem> ello all
[02:04] <jack_> nknwd, you mean download and install?
[02:04] <RickHahn13> hey six
[02:04] <Toma-> livingdaylight: ok, first one, is a little script for 16:9 videos and the other, for 4:3
[02:04] <jack_> nknwd, or just checking for them?
[02:04] <nknwd> yes
[02:04] <PirateHead> nknwd: add an anacron job running the system updater
[02:05] <nknwd> i've created a script.sh which contains aptitude -y update and upgrade, added it in crontab
[02:05] <nknwd> in root crontab
[02:05] <BobZero|afk> hi
[02:05] <nknwd> the script also has a >> /var/log line
[02:05] <PirateHead> unless you are running a comptuer with near 100% uptime, you should run it as an anacron job rather than as a cron job
[02:05] <sixvoltsystem> playing hookie with my sick 7 year old and setting up the wireless in ubuntu
[02:05] <Chade> Hi
[02:06] <PirateHead> sixboltsystem: I just got my wireless working. It feels good!
[02:06] <jack_> nknwd, chmod +x ?
[02:06] <nknwd> and every day, the log contains lines that he tries to get updated but then says ldconfig and four more programs aren't in PATH
[02:06] <sixvoltsystem> ooo I can't wait
[02:06] <jack_> nknwd,sudo chmod +x ?
[02:06] <jack_> Sorry :P
[02:06] <Toma-> livingdaylight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8932/
[02:06] <nknwd> it does update but at upgrade, it lists the packages, downloads them
[02:06] <Chade> having a few issues installing Ubuntu anyone mind giving me a hand please?
[02:06] <nknwd> but when trying to install them, sais that about ldconfig
[02:06] <sixvoltsystem> just some issues with the wrapper I have to resolve with my driver and I'm good to go
[02:06] <nknwd> not being in PATH
[02:06] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: the future is beautifull!
[02:07] <Jowi> Chade, ask a question and be precise.
[02:07] <Robinsjostrom> Chade: thats sick dude
[02:08] <Toma-> livingdaylight: i divided them into 2 different scripts, for simplicity sake. i made /usr/local/bin/avi-dvd-16-9 and avi-dvd-4-3 with the respective code in each
[02:08] <livingdaylight> Toma-, thank you. Half way there. How do i use these scripts now?
[02:09] <berent> one question on sound in edgy .Can I ask?
[02:09] <Toma-> livingdaylight: "avi-dvd-16-9 your16:9.avi"
[02:09] <Toma-> then burn the resulting iso afterwards with whatever
[02:09] <PirateHead> berent: you may not ask questions. You need to be modded +j to ask questions over IRC.
[02:09] <Toma-> berent: i dunno. can you?
[02:09] <livingdaylight> Toma-, backup. Where do i put the scripts?
[02:09] <el_moreno31> hola quien habla espaol
[02:09] <Toma-> livingdaylight: /usr/bin or even /usr/local/bin
[02:10] <PirateHead> !sa
[02:10] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[02:10] <berent> PIratedHead : you stand by ur name
[02:10] <Jowi> !es
[02:10] <PirateHead> !es
[02:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:10] <livingdaylight> el_moreno31, !es
[02:10] <berent> Toma : yes i can
[02:10] <Chade> Jowi: Certainly, I've never installed a Linux box before or tried to set up a dual boot, I have two partitions in Windows a 70gb boot partition and a 45gb logical partition, I just loaded Ubuntu from the CD I burned and tried to manually edit the partition table to reduce the size of the logical partition and create a new partition solely for Ubuntu, my laptop froze when I clicked apply and...
[02:10] <Chade> ...I had to powerdown to reset. Wondering what I did wrong?
[02:10] <BobZero|afk> i need some help while installing an ssh server?
[02:10] <Toma-> BobZero|afk: what kind of help?
[02:10] <eltopo> good
[02:10] <Chade> Jowi: Thanks btw, forgetting my manners
[02:11] <dhiraj> chade u nided to have given it time,it may not respond,but creating partitions takes time
[02:11] <berent> I am getting sound on only right speaker and whatever I set in alsamixer etc I am unable to get on left speaker so my right brain is getting heavily drummed any solutions?
[02:11] <BobZero|afk> just some hints
[02:11] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: dude im really not a troll
[02:11] <Jowi> Chade, I wouldn't know. I never resized a partition from the live cd. maybe it was full...? hard to say.
[02:11] <Slike> wtf? i'm losing it completely now: first apt was complaining, then i rebooted the system...now it even says "cannot execute /etc/init.d/rcS"
[02:12] <Slike> i can't even log on???
[02:12] <Toma-> BobZero: install the openssh-server package and off you go
[02:12] <PirateHead> RobinsJostrom: it's okay, I'm just trolling with you.
[02:12] <Jowi> Chade, if resizing does not work for you an alternative is to remove the partition and create two new ones in its place.
[02:12] <BobZero> ohh very helpfull
[02:12] <BobZero> thx
[02:12] <Toma-> !sound
[02:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:12] <Robinsjostrom> PirateHead: maybe i talk to much though
[02:12] <Toma-> berent: ^^^
[02:13] <dhiraj> hey chade i guess u had enuf free space to do that,when u resize ,jus leave it alone fr a while,when its over itll respond,try it frm the live cd again n get bk
[02:13] <berent> yes Toma :-))
[02:13] <Toma-> ;P
[02:13] <berent> I am getting sound on only right speaker and whatever I set in alsamixer etc I am unable to get on left speaker so my right brain is getting heavily drummed any solutions?
[02:13] <dhiraj> hmm,check ur headfone jack connection
[02:13] <dhiraj> if its partly come loose
[02:13] <Jowi> !ssh | BobZero
[02:13] <ubotu> BobZero: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:13] <livingdaylight> Toma-, first i put it in a folder and dump it in /usr/local/bin ?
[02:13] <berent> dhiraj i checked its ok
[02:14] <Chade> dhiraj: Ah thanks, I left it for about 15 minutes and then got worried since I heard no sounds coming from my HD and had no LEDS flashing to indicate that anything was going on, when I soft reset my logical partition in windows was exactly as I left it
[02:14] <berent> dhiraj even speakers play on right only
[02:14] <omeil> Savage 2 will be released for linux and windows on the same date :D
[02:14] <Chade> hard reset rather
[02:14] <dhiraj> hmm k,chade,do one thing,get the gparted live iso frm sourceforge n have a go again
[02:14] <dhiraj> its helped me more times
[02:15] <Toma-> livingdaylight: 'touch avi-dvd-16-9 && chmod +x avi-dvd-16-9' then add the script into that file... then 'sudo mv avi-dvd-16-9 /usr/local/bin'
[02:15] <dhiraj> i hope to hell ur logical partition wasnt ntfs
[02:15] <Chade> dhiraj: Will do, thanks, if I can't resize it I may just copy everything onto my portable HD and just delete the partition and try again
[02:16] <Chade> dhiraj: If I say it's NTFS am I screwed?
[02:16] <dhiraj> as fr berent,hey man,wot mixer do u use
[02:16] <berent> dhiraj its alsamixer
[02:16] <dhiraj> m dats y nuthin happened
[02:16] <dhiraj> no u rent screwed chade
[02:17] <dhiraj> ntfs resize is still buggy in linux,use sumting like partition manager in windows to reduce its size
[02:17] <Chade> Ah
[02:17] <dhiraj> n den with gparted create a partition in unpartitioned space
[02:17] <Chade> will do, thanks, will get back and tell you how it went
[02:17] <dhiraj> it shud go well,
[02:18] <dhiraj> nyways glad to help
[02:18] <berent> dhiraj : ??
[02:18] <dhiraj> telll
[02:18] <dhiraj> i m thinking
[02:18] <berent> dhiraj its alsamixer
[02:18] <dhiraj> ya,have u tried out any other distro?
[02:19] <berent> ya breezy and dapper
[02:19] <Chade> cheers, one last quick question, I haven't managed to buy a new router since my old one burnt out and I'm connecting through a USB modem atm, will I be able to get that up and running in Ubuntu? Model is a BT Voyager 105
[02:19] <livingdaylight> Toma-, thank you :D what is the next step now please? :D
[02:19] <dhiraj> hmm,not dat,sumting other than ubuntu,i think u dual boot berent rite?
[02:19] <Jowi> berent, maybe the connector that is flaky. wiggle the cable :)
[02:19] <dhiraj> so both ur speakers work on windows i believe
[02:19] <BobZero> theres another question?
[02:20] <berent> dhiraj no
[02:20] <BobZero> how can i change the resolution for the textmode?
[02:20] <dhiraj> um so u have only ubuntu
[02:20] <berent> dhiraj windows never installed but they worked in other
[02:20] <Jowi> BobZero, set the framebuffer resolution
[02:20] <Jowi> !framebuffer
[02:20] <berent> dhiraj versions of ubuntu
[02:20] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:20] <johnnyfive> has anyone had trouble with midi sound not playing
[02:20] <ikonia_> johnnyfive nope all great
[02:20] <berent> !speaker
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <BobZero> sorry but i dont understand @jowi
[02:21] <Toma-> livingdaylight: make sure you have ffmpeg and dvdauthor
[02:21] <dhiraj> berent ok i understand,try them out on ur tv or sumting to check if ur speaker cables r ok
[02:21] <Jowi> BobZero, see at the bottom of the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:22] <berent> dhiraj they r ok i tested
[02:22] <dhiraj> hmm,ur alsaixer,the balance slder is in the middle if im not mistaken
[02:22] <johnnyfive> how can i test midi sound easily
[02:23] <berent> dhiraj balanceslider of master ?
[02:23] <dhiraj> ya
[02:23] <dhiraj> shd be 100 100 ideally
[02:23] <nio> hello
[02:23] <voraistos> Hello! Anyone knows how to use make ? I would like it to output the binaries to a certain directory, but i cant find out the command
[02:23] <berent> dhiraj yes they both increase or decrease simultaneously
[02:24] <dhiraj> not dat,u see sumting like 100<>100 below?
[02:24] <nio> i just install ubuntu and i want to set up gnuworld service and i don't know how, what is cvs?
[02:26] <livingdaylight> Toma-, ok, i have 'em now
[02:26] <Toma-> livingdaylight: cool
[02:26] <Toma-> livingdaylight: well, cd into the dir your avi is in, and run the script on it
[02:27] <Shane-S> I have never done a crontab before, and I put in this 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * ...(code), however the tutorial I am following was "wq" on a new line after that, is that needed?
[02:27] <Shane-S> was -> has
[02:27] <dhiraj> oy berent,how olds ur pc like?
[02:27] <Toma-> livingdaylight: also, its pretty dumb, so try not to confuse it with long/special characters in the filename <:)
[02:27] <livingdaylight> Toma-, ok, so my avi is in /home/movies
[02:27] <dhiraj> mebbe d sound card decided enuf was enuf
[02:28] <Toma-> livingdaylight: it takes about 2-3hrs to convert on a sempron 3200 64bit with crap all optimisations
[02:28] <Shane-S> anyone see my question, I did not identify myself
[02:28] <big1> yo
[02:28] <berent> my pc is 8 years old dhiraj
[02:29] <IdleOne> Shane-S, yes we saw it
[02:29] <Toma-> IdleOne: mebbe its cooler? :D
[02:29] <Shane-S> k, thanks, didn't want to repeat it
[02:29] <dhiraj> ya so mite b dat,so heres sumting u can do,
[02:29] <IdleOne> Toma-, purapps it iznt
[02:29] <Toma-> lol
[02:29] <livingdaylight> Toma-, wow, that is a while, ok, and after its converted then its a straightforward burning to dvd
[02:29] <ekimus> are there any other ubuntu flavors (desktop speaking) than xubuntu and kubuntu? I'd like something prepackaged with fluxbox or ion (yes I could just apt-get it but I got really lazy in these things with the convenience ubuntu has:)
[02:29] <berent> and my brain is almost 26 years old  dhiraj
[02:29] <dhiraj> get sumting small like dsl frm damnsmalllinux.org or puppy frm puppylinux.org both have excellent hw detection,jus boot frm dem n temme if ur sounds ok there
[02:30] <livingdaylight> Toma-, so i cd'd into the avi folder how do i connect it to the script?
[02:30] <dhiraj> else its time u gota new sound cardf
[02:30] <IdleOne> ekimus, there isnt any pre-pack Fluxubuntu but like you said it isnt hard to get
[02:30] <Toma-> livingdaylight: yep. just simply burn the DVD.iso to the disc with whatever you want. i didnt let it burn it for me because i always test my isos before burning
[02:30] <livingdaylight> Toma-, and you're saying if it is a really long name then shortien it?
[02:30] <Toma-> livingdaylight: avi-dvd-16-9 yourvideo.avi
[02:31] <omeil> Serious Sam The Second Encounter runs on wine and crossover but sadly with no sound :(
[02:31] <Toma-> livingdaylight: wish i could :D
[02:31] <omeil> !iso
[02:31] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:31] <Shane-S> http://www.pastebin.ca/383544 do I need the line after my comment?
[02:31] <dhiraj> um ekimus theres a prepack
[02:32] <Toma-> ekimus: just install the server/thin version and then 'sudo apt-get fluxbox'... itll install X and fluxbox for you
[02:32] <dhiraj> its called fluxbuntu
[02:32] <dhiraj> its stable
[02:32] <dhiraj> as far as i see,its at fluxbuntu,org if im not mistaken
[02:33] <livingdaylight> Toma-, so for eg: Little.Miss.Sunshine[2006] DvDrip[Eng] -aXXo.avi
[02:33] <livingdaylight>  just rename it Little Miss Sunshine.avi ?
[02:33] <dhiraj> so i guess u dont nid to go thru all dat
[02:33] <Toma-> livingdaylight: yeh. even LMS.avi would be easier
[02:33] <berent> dhiraj and one more important thing : my device manager doesnt open at all a bug buddy window pops up
[02:34] <dhiraj> hmm,ok,wots d bug
[02:34] <berent> dhiraj some core is formes
[02:34] <berent> formed
[02:35] <dhiraj> no idea,sorry about that
[02:36] <Robinsjostrom> lets say i have two harddrives, one with vista installed and one blank. can i unplugg the vista harddrive and install ubuntu on the blank one and then plug in the vista drive again after the installation and be able to multiboot?
[02:36] <livingdaylight> Toma-, cool, that is on its way now?
[02:36] <dhiraj> but u do try out ur sound berent with puppy linux n teme,y i told u to do dat is coz its 85 mb n easy to download,n shud run like a charm on ur 8yr old system
[02:36] <Toma-> livingdaylight: are numbers ticking over and ffmpeg running?
[02:36] <dhiraj> um,jus dat u dont nid to do all the unplugging
[02:37] <dhiraj> sorry i said dat to robin...
[02:37] <thepianoguy> hi guys
[02:37] <livingdaylight> Toma-, it will convert to iso, yea.. Yes, numbers are ticking i don't know if it is ffmpeg or not, but it looks good
[02:37] <dyrne> Robinsjostrom: yes but it wont be as easy as it would be if you left it connected for ubuntu to detect. but its not exactly hard to do it that way either
[02:37] <madsen> Ok, I'm reading the MacBook article on help.ubuntu.com/community/, but I'm still a little uncertain about what to do with grub...
[02:38] <dhiraj> ekimus:checked out fluxbuntu?thers also nubuntu,but i guess its a security distro not a desktop one
[02:38] <madsen> I'm installing Feisty btw...
[02:38] <livingdaylight> Toma-, I'm so lucky i stumbled into you :D
[02:38] <thepianoguy> I'm testing feisty and my kernel doesn't boot (vmlinuz-2.6.20-9-generic) on my Athlon XP
[02:38] <livingdaylight> Toma-, not everyone can do this
[02:38] <Toma-> livingdaylight: good. youll have a 'DVD.iso' in that same directory, a folder called DVD, and a file called final.mpg, that you can simply delete once its all done
[02:38] <dhiraj> madsen
[02:38] <thepianoguy> after few seconds I select it, it says "tty jobs turned off"
[02:38] <thepianoguy> and falls to busybox
[02:38] <madsen> dhiraj: Yeah?
[02:38] <Robinsjostrom> dyrne: its just that i want to keep the vista drive as it is i have much sensitive data on it. so i dont wanna risk loosing it on the ubuntuinstallation
[02:38] <dhiraj> u say u cant get grun on
[02:38] <Toma-> livingdaylight: ahhh theres GUI apps like this all over the place. i just boiled it down to the stuff I want.
[02:39] <livingdaylight> Toma-, thank you :D
[02:39] <Toma-> :)
[02:39] <Toma-> np
[02:39] <dhiraj> um,dat wont b necessary,robin,u shudnt lose any data
[02:39] <thepianoguy> this behaviour in feisty is already at least 2 months old and with each upgrade it's the same
[02:39] <dhiraj> hmm,jus boot into live cd
[02:39] <thepianoguy> am I doing something wrong? (any new packets need to be installed in Feisty to get kernel wodking)
[02:39] <dhiraj> madsen
[02:39] <Toma-> livingdaylight: check out "tovid" and tovid-gui as theyre just the same principle, with a bit more salt and spice
[02:39] <dhiraj> den open console n type in find /boot/grub/stage1
[02:40] <Robinsjostrom> dhiraj: ok thank you for the answer. its just that i used linux a couple of years ago and i found the partitioning part hard
[02:40] <dhiraj> madsen:then it will display a partition do root hd(x,x)
[02:40] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, how can I update/restore previous working public key for APT?
[02:40] <livingdaylight> Toma-, i see...i'll have a look
[02:40] <dhiraj> then grub install
[02:41] <fds> anders_home: #1
[02:41] <dhiraj> temme how it went madsen
[02:41] <dhiraj> welcum back robin,its way easier now
[02:41] <madsen> dhiraj: Well, the problem is what I tell the installer to do with grub? I guess it shouldn't install it on (hd0)...
[02:41] <livingdaylight> Toma-, but i'm set now anyways. i just have to remember the command avi-dvd-16-9 yourmovie.avi which i've added to my tommy notes
[02:41] <omeil> umm does this seem right? sudo cp /home/omeil/Desktop/n/bin /
[02:41] <Robinsjostrom> dhiraj: good =) that leads to my second question how does vista and ubuntu work together?
[02:41] <dhiraj> madsen:u can tell it to install on hd0,then fix it up later
[02:42] <Toma-> livingdaylight: cool :D just type avi then hit tab a couple times
[02:42] <dhiraj> anything works together
[02:42] <madsen> dhiraj: Won't that mess up my OS X?
[02:42] <dhiraj> seriously
[02:42] <Robinsjostrom> dhiraj: great
[02:42] <omeil> !cp
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Robinsjostrom> and is there any compability issues with ati grapichcards like x700se?
[02:42] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, how can I update/restore previous working public key for APT?
[02:42] <dhiraj> madsen:um no,nyways ill refer up,i v not done it on a mc bfore
[02:42] <Toma-> omeil: what are you trying to do?
[02:42] <livingdaylight> Toma-, true, now that the path has been set ...
[02:43] <dhiraj> so i think u shudnt install on hd 0 or sumting,ill chk up
[02:43] <thestriker> can beryl work on dapper?
[02:43] <omeil> Toma-: copy the contents of the n/bin folder to /bin
[02:43] <madsen> dhiraj: And it won't be safer to tell it to install on (hd0,3)? (hd0,3 being /dev/sda4, right?)
[02:43] <Toma-> omeil: dont put stuff in /bin
[02:44] <omeil> Toma-: its for the cdemu script
[02:44] <Sbreeze> Anybody interested in helping a newbie setup internet connection sharing...?
[02:44] <techie> Can anybody tell me how to install a windows program using wine?
[02:44] <spotted> !ati > spotted
[02:44] <Toma-> omeil: if anything, put it in /usr/bin
[02:44] <livingdaylight> Toma-, best to get iso torrents if the intention is to burn to a dvd from the outset. And only use .avi's if iso's aren't available
[02:44] <dhiraj> um ya,u can install ,but thing is ull have to modify ur mac thing to boot frm dat sda4 optionally,n i think mac doesnt have a boot.inii u can edit
[02:44] <madsen> techie: 'wine WinProgram.exe'
[02:44] <Toma-> livingdaylight: yeh, but ive got limited bandwidth :)
[02:45] <madsen> dhiraj: Hmm... And you've done this before ... with rEFIt?
[02:45] <omeil> Toma-: oh ok :), so ? what would the command be?
[02:45] <Toma-> omeil: youll want to 'sudo cp /home/omeil/Desktop/n/bin/* /usr/bin'
[02:45] <techie> <madsen  thanks.
[02:45] <madsen> techie: np!
[02:45] <omeil> Tome-: oh ok thx
[02:45] <livingdaylight> Toma-, i don't^^ but i see how avi's are quicker to download but adding the two processes together it is more time consuming this way would be my guess
[02:45] <techie> madsen. and after that just give the name of the window program I want to install?
[02:46] <madsen> techie: What?
[02:46] <Toma-> livingdaylight: also i have a download limit :( if i download 1 4gb dvd id be capped till the end of the month
[02:46] <Toma-> so the avi to dvd stuff makes me all happy.
[02:46] <techie> I have a program called Voicedit in windows do I have to do wine WinProgram.exe and then the name of that program?
[02:46] <livingdaylight> Toma-, harsh :(
[02:47] <dhiraj> hey madsen u gota macbook?or an older on
[02:47] <Toma-> yeeeep
[02:47] <dhiraj> i mn intel or ppc
[02:47] <livingdaylight> Toma-, who is your isp ?
 I have a program called Voicedit in windows do I have to do wine WinProgram.exe and then the name of that program?
[02:47] <Toma-> livingdaylight: iinet. in australia. we have terrible internet networks here
[02:47] <madsen> techie: Hehe, no, WinProgram.exe was just an example.. Just 'wine Voicedit.exe' (if that's what the exe is called.)
[02:47] <madsen> dhiraj: A month old MacBook.
[02:48] <madsen> dhiraj: So Intel Core 2 Duo
[02:48] <techie> madsen.. i will try it.
[02:48] <dhiraj> refit works
[02:48] <Askar> I tried feisty 5 recently and was truly dissapointed... I didnt see one single thing that had change :S Tell me whats new?!
[02:48] <ikonia_> Askar read the docs
[02:48] <madsen> dhiraj: I know, but I'm just afraid I'll mess something up, if I install grub to (hd0) (aka. MBR).
[02:48] <ikonia_> Askar not everything is visible
[02:49] <livingdaylight> Toma-, ok, soundz it...over here (uk) unlimited downloads is pretty standard
[02:49] <Askar> ikonia_: where can i find the docs?
[02:49] <ikonia_> livingdaylightits not standards
[02:49] <madsen> techie: Ok. I hope it works out. Wine can be a frustrating piece of cra---fantastic software!
[02:49] <ikonia_> Askar ubuntu.com
[02:49] <dhiraj> hm,u can fix it up later,thing is if it was a pc id say go ahead,since u hav a macbook,im thinking
[02:50] <madsen> dhiraj: Exactly my concern to. I think I've installed Linux (in various flavours, including Ubuntu) about a hundred times on PCs... But never before on a macbook.
[02:51] <Robinsjostrom> hey dude is there hard for a beginner to install ati x700se drivers?
[02:51] <Robinsjostrom> i recon having problems with that in other linuxversions
[02:51] <Matic`Makovec> I can't update my system with apt-get update because some mirror has some problems (or rather my ssystem has some problems with the mirror). Anyway, this mirror isn't added anywhere in sources.list so I'm woundering how could I remove it?
[02:52] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Uhm... If it's not in your sources.list, then apt shouldn't use it - at all...
[02:52] <Matic`Makovec> I kinda thought that.
[02:52] <Sbreeze> I have one computer with 2 nics and I have a dsl modem attached to one nic.. how do I share the other nic's with internet
[02:52] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom should be straight forward
[02:52] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Maybe that's the problem apt is having with it...
[02:52] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, but it obviusly does, and I've never seen that before that's why it amazes me.
[02:53] <Askar> ikonia_: I cant find a page that says what new.. I found one that said feisty is going to have..windows that wobble..yay :(
[02:53] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: what mirror is it?
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> A wine mirror
[02:53] <ikonia_> Askar so ?
[02:53] <ikonia_> Askar what do you want
[02:53] <techie> Madsen this is what I got: c:\\windows\\system32\voice.exe. Module not found bu the actual program's name is Voice Edit.exe located in   /mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing. Does this makes sense to you?
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> W: e elite odpraviti teave, poskusite zagnati apt-get update.
[02:53] <dhiraj> madsen:Myth: You need rEFIt to install/boot Linux
[02:53] <dhiraj> You dont. The firmwares built-in boot volume chooser (hold Option to activate it) will recognize Linux boot CDs as well as bootable hard disks and let you boot them. (They may be labeled Windows, though.) For triple-booting youll get only one item in the built-in chooser, but you can use GRUB, LILO, or NTLDR to act as a second-level menu to choose between Windows and Linux. The gptsync tool can be compiled to run on Linux.
[02:53] <dhiraj> Of course rEFIt makes it easier. For example, it will give you a single menu even for triple-boot setups.
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> I'm fully aware I screwed up GPG keys
[02:53] <ikonia_> techie you may get better help in #wine or #wine-hq
[02:53] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: but you still have to install it from commandline? right?
[02:53] <Askar> ikonia_: A page that lets me see whats new that doesnt show : )
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> But only this mirror has problems with it so I _could_ remove it
[02:53] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom no use synaptic
[02:54] <techie> ah, thanks.
[02:54] <LiteWait> /who am i
[02:54] <ikonia_> Askar read more docs, check the forum, check the wiki
[02:54] <Askar> ikonia_: Hmm ok.. I will search
[02:54] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: oh that really works for installing drivers?...cool
[02:54] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom the ati drivers are just a apackage
[02:55] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: thats nice
[02:55] <madsen> techie: Did you run 'wine "/mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing/Voice Edit.exe"'?
[02:55] <techie> madsen, I will try it now. wait
[02:56] <LiteWait> newbie just installed feisty.  trying to get all the restricted formats going.  mlb.com videos don't seem to work though.  I don't get an error and i don't know what format they are running.  Installed wincodecs and all the restricted formats from the respository.  And ideas?
[02:56] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Hmm... Looks like that repo is indeed in sources.list somewhere...
[02:57] <techie> madsen when I tried to run it i get: wine: cannot find '/mnt/windows/Program'
[02:57] <ikonia_> LiteWait 1.) fesity support is in #ubuntu+1 2.) why is a linux newbie using beta software 3.) why have you not read the basic docs
[02:57] <albacker> guys can someone help me ?! i changed from gnome to fluxbox, but my devices aren't automounted now.. like for example, windows devices, and USB flash disks
[02:57] <varkatope_> Sbreeze: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[02:57] <ikonia_> techie you have to escape spaces "program files"
[02:57] <ikonia_> see the pace
[02:57] <ikonia_> space
[02:57] <ikonia_> linux dos not like the space so you need to use escape chars
[02:58] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/
[02:58] <LiteWait> ikonia_ : sorry.  I will move there.  Not a Linux newbie, but a ubuntu newbie.
[02:58] <madsen> techie: You need to put " " around the path to the exe.
[02:58] <Toma-> albacker: thats because youre not using gnome anymore.
[02:58] <techie> madsen thanks.
[02:58] <madsen> techie: np
[02:58] <albacker> Toma-, why should ubuntu be linked to gnome in anyway ?!
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker gnome is doing the mounting
[02:59] <albacker> Toma-, doesnt ubuntu mount all my devices [like usb ones]  ?!
[02:59] <dhiraj> madsen:goddit, install ur grub to ur ubuntu partition ,then use refit,ie install refit to ur mac os x volume,thn u can dual boot using refit,no risks
[02:59] <albacker> ikonia_, where's the file of gnome that does thjat ?!
[02:59] <Toma-> albacker: its not... its just that gnome has automounting built in
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker dbus intergrated into gnome
[02:59] <Matic`Makovec> albacker, you can go to kubuntu or something if you don't like it.
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker fluxbox has no dbus support - so it can't execute themount
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker you have to configure it manually
[02:59] <madsen> dhiraj: So (hd0,3) (for /dev/sda4), right?
[02:59] <Jowi> albacker, dbus. you can create your own udev rules or use a file manager that does that for you automatically (like thunar)
[03:00] <dhiraj> rite
[03:00] <Matic`Makovec> Does that link give you any idea madsen ?
[03:00] <albacker> Jowi, how do i know which device is my flash disk to so i can mount it automatically ?!
[03:00] <dhiraj> den follow the man pages on refit
[03:00] <albacker> Jowi, lsusb gives this Bus 004 Device 003: ID 10d6:1000 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd MP3 Player
[03:00] <doctorow> I have a Lenovo t60p. I just reinstalled and updated Ubuntu. It would only boot in 640x480, no matter what resolution I chose from the Screen Resolution panel. After choosing 1080 and rebooting, it can't seem to start X at all. I get the username/password screen, I fill it in, the screen blanks, and then it brings up the username screen again. The same happens with failsafe GNOME as well. Any help is much appreciated.
[03:00] <Toma-> albacker: thunar is a lightweight filemanager with dbus support
[03:00] <Toma-> albacker: i use it with e17
[03:00] <albacker> ok
[03:00] <albacker> wait..
[03:00] <ikonia_> albacker it will be seen as a scsi disk
[03:00] <albacker> ill apt-get it
[03:01] <ikonia_> albacker apt-get what ?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> doctorow: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:01] <albacker> ikonia, apt-get install thunar
[03:01] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: No, in fact it puzzles me quite a bit!
[03:02] <techie> madsen: I got this:  wine "/mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing/voice editing.exe"
[03:02] <albacker> Thunar is the file manager designed to be the default file manager of Xfce 4.4
[03:02] <albacker>  .
[03:02] <albacker>  This version is an svn snapshot, and thus may contains bugs.
[03:02] <doctorow> Frogzoo Thanks, will try that now
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, hehe, welcome to the club :)
[03:02] <dhiraj> Bie ppl,cya tomorrow,
[03:02] <ikonia_> albacker what version of ubuntu are you using
[03:02] <Robinsjostrom> is the latest and recommended release of ubuntu 6.10?
[03:02] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Unfortunately I've got to go now, I'm in the middle of an install. But I hope you figure it out.
[03:02] <ikonia_> albacker and the version of thunar in the repo is svn ?
[03:02] <albacker> ikonia, edgy
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, thanks for trying. Good luck with your install :)
[03:02] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom yup
[03:02] <madsen> dhiraj: Thanks for your help!
[03:02] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Thanks! :)
[03:02] <albacker> ikonia, Version: 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1
[03:02] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom or the LTS version
[03:03] <techie> maden and then  \\Program Files\\Panasonic\\Voice Editing\\voice editing.exe") not found
[03:03] <techie> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\mnt\\windows\\Program Files\\Panasonic\\Voice Editing\\voice editing.exe" failed, status c0000135
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker wow, unusual to get svn in the repo
[03:03] <Askar> What do u think of this? I think I agree...
[03:03] <Askar> http://www.zdnet.com.au/forums/0,139029293,339273880-320075510o,00.htm
[03:03] <Toma-> albacker: dont install it yet
[03:03] <albacker> ikonia, is there any .deb or .tar.gz out there..
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker use the repo - its the best option
[03:03] <I-kido> techie u cant mount an .exe file, but u can mount a device
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker but I think toma- has info for you
[03:03] <madsen> techie: looks like that program won't immediately run under wine... Maybe you should try #wine instead... Or check out their website.
[03:03] <Toma-> albacker: theres a pre-built package from xfce.
[03:03] <Jowi> !info thunar
[03:03] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[03:04] <techie> madsen I will do that
[03:04] <madsen> techie: Either way, I've got to go now. Good luck with it!
[03:04] <Toma-> 0.4 is old and horrible. 0.8.0 is great
[03:04] <techie> madsen... thanks I appreciate the help
[03:04] <ikonia_> techie have you read the wine docs yet??? you've been asking about this for days
[03:04] <ikonia_> !wine >techie
[03:04] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, I'm running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- I have a screen that wants me to select my X server driver. Which one should I choose?
[03:04] <madsen> techie: No problem!
[03:04] <albacker> Toma-, where did you get it
[03:04] <Frogzoo> doctorow: what's your vid card?
[03:05] <Toma-> albacker: can you plz wait a moment?
[03:05] <albacker> Toma-, of course.
[03:05] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's an ATI -- the standard one for the Thinkpad T60p; I can look up the exact model, one Sec
[03:05] <techie> Ikonia. I have been asking about other things for days and you already corrected me once. No, I haven't been asking about this for days. I am trying to learn so as to NOT ICONVENIENCE you as you so bluntly stated yesterday!
[03:06] <techie> Ikonia. I have not been asking about this specific issue .....
[03:06] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 - 256 MB
[03:06] <Frogzoo> doctorow: you can just choose 'ati' for now - you may like to read the docs if you have a more recent card & install the fglrx driver, however ati is fine
[03:06] <Jowi> techie, I think the channel for wine is #winehq here on freenode
[03:06] <Frogzoo> doctorow: k, so ati's your only option then
[03:06] <ikonia_> techie you have been trying to get wine to work for days, so I can grab the logs if you want. I'm just curious if you've read the wine docs yet, which is why I sent you the link
[03:06] <techie> Jowi, thanks maden had made me aware and I contactd them.
[03:06] <Jowi> techie, you might get more luck from ppl in there
[03:06] <ikonia_> techie its no inconvienene
[03:06] <Jowi> ok
[03:07] <techie> ikonia thanks ikonia, I will read the respective logs
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie you'd been asking for days about wine, didn't know if you'd read the wine docs, looking at your problem, you've not
[03:07] <Toma-> albacker: http://thunar.xfce.org/download.html
[03:07] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's now prompting me for an "identifier" for the card, the option filled in is "Generic Video Card" is that OK?
[03:07] <Toma-> albacker: get the "thunar-Bundle"
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie you want me to get the logs for you ?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> doctorow: all the defaults are sensible, just click through to where you choose multiple monitor resolutions
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie a few people gave suggestions that may help you if you've forgot/missed them
[03:07] <techie> ikonia just give me the links and I will save them or tell me how to save previous information so that I know what I asked for and have not.
[03:08] <albacker> Toma-, 1 sec
[03:08] <ikonia_> !wine>techie theres the links for the the wine docs, they are not bad and should get your at least started
[03:08] <techie> ikonia. thank you ikonia.
[03:08] <ikonia_> techie then if you have specific problems, you can ask specific rather than just "how to....its not working why, why why"
[03:08] <ikonia_> techie easy to answer specifics once you've got it working/basic install ok
[03:09] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's now prompting me for video modes and has a long list of resolutions; should I check them all off?
[03:09] <techie> ikonia understood. I did not even know a few days ago what was !command such as !wine . I thought these were comands you placed on the terminal. Now I know better not to ask stupid questions. It is a process of learning
[03:09] <techie> I got it.
[03:10] <ikonia_> techie everyone learns, but its easy to read the docs and get the basics then ask specifics, hope the docs help
[03:10] <techie> ikonia thanks.
[03:10] <Robinsjostrom> can i install ubuntu on an externam WD mnybook?
[03:10] <Robinsjostrom> mybook
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom check the hardware to see if its compatible
[03:11] <ikonia_> (I assume a mybook is a laptop)
[03:11] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: its an external harddrive
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom you can install it on any disk you want
[03:11] <doctorow> Frogzoo I've got a long list of resolutions, which ones should I check off?
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom how you boot from it, is up to you
[03:12] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: but its possible to boot from it?
[03:12] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom that depends if your motherboard supports usb boot, or if you want to put the grub boot loader on your primary boot device
[03:13] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: http://rasher.dk/UbuntuOnMyBook255/
[03:13] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom why are you showing me that
[03:13] <techie> ikonia thanks again. I was so new at this that just a couple of days ago when you sent !wine and I repeated it on the screen was because I had no inkling that ubotu(the robot) was opening another section on xchat for me to look at the info.
[03:14] <ikonia_> techie no problem
[03:15] <doctorow> Frogzoo URGENT I completed the process and now I can't even reboot!
[03:17] <Frogzoo> doctorow: why not?
[03:17] <thestriker> a good hub to set up in dapper?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> thestriker: all hubs will work
[03:18] <hl5pma> 
[03:18] <doctorow> Frogzoo It loads the UBUNTU screen with a kind of staitcky bar down the middle of the screen, and never gets to the login
[03:19] <Frogzoo> doctorow: select 'recovery' from the grub menu - you can then reconfigure your xorg until it works properly
[03:19] <Frogzoo> !ati | doctorow
[03:19] <ubotu> doctorow: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:19] <ikonia_> thestriker hub ??
[03:19] <doctorow> Frogzoo How do I get to the Grub menu?
[03:19] <ikonia_> doctorow boot the pc
[03:19] <doctorow> ubotu thanks
[03:19] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:20] <Frogzoo> doctorow: should just come up, before the ubuntu splash - if not, hit esc
[03:20] <keithhhhh> Is there any problems installing Ubuntu on a Vista system
[03:20] <Frogzoo> !vista
[03:20] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:20] <koutroumpesis> ffff
[03:20] <thestriker> ikonia, yes a hub!..for a dc network
[03:20] <ikonia_> keithhhhh not that I'm aware of as ubuntu doesn't install into the OS
[03:20] <ikonia_> thestriker what do you want to know ?
[03:21] <Frogzoo> keithhhhh: you might want to check that grub works ok with vista
[03:21] <techie> ikonia. very cool indeed now that I am reading about the wine program etc... It makes a lot of sense especially now that I know where to find the "documenation" to read about.
[03:21] <keithhhhh> ikonia_:  I mean put Ubuntu on a separate partition?
[03:21] <thestriker> ikonia, just wanted to know if a good hub is out there..i had some problem with linuxdcpp(client)..in the sharing facility..when i share one particular folder it shares the whole drive
[03:21] <bryanl> can i remove mozilla-thunderbird without removing xubuntu-desktop?
[03:22] <ikonia_> thestriker hubs shouldn't matter as they are nothing to do with the OS's
[03:22] <ikonia_> bryanl yes, select it from synaptic and remove it
[03:22] <techie> Ikonia, i must have come across like a "duh" asking so many stupid questions and trying to survive the first few days as an Ubuntu user. Augh!! and double augh!
[03:23] <doctorow> ikonia Frogzoo I'm at the GRUB menu -- what do I do now?
[03:23] <thestriker> ikonia,  thanx
[03:23] <bryanl> ikonia_: nope, it still wants to remove xubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <techie> Ikonia there is a definite struglle for that first learning curve!
[03:23] <opetznick> hi i'm trying: mount 192.168.35.11:/nfsroot /mnt/nfsroot and get mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs' - do i have to enable something special?
[03:24] <keithhhhh> is it possible to make a dual boot vista / ubuntu system
[03:24] <Shane-S> http://www.pastebin.ca/383544 that is what I typed when I ran crontab -e, is that correct?
[03:26] <ikonia_> keithhhhh documents don't suggest otherwise that I've read
[03:27] <bryanl> keithhhhh: sure... just make sure to install vista first.  i don't see why you couldn't dual boot
[03:27] <rafa> hello
[03:28] <rafa> friends i have one question
[03:28] <pax> I for one welcome our vista overlords. don't know about grub.
[03:28] <doctorow> Frogzoo I think that the problem may be where it's asking me how much RAM to use; the spec-sheet says 256MB, so I typed in 256000 is that right?
[03:28] <ikonia_> bryanl well vista uses a different boot loader - so theres one possability bit documentation suggests it's possible
[03:28] <Askar> Helpp! I have no /etc/inittab :(
[03:28] <ikonia_> Askar create one
[03:28] <ikonia_> Askar are you using fesity still
[03:28] <ikonia_> (remembers this discussion )
[03:28] <bryanl> ikonia_: it doesn't matter. grub can compensate.  thats why i said install ubuntu second
[03:28] <Frogzoo> doctorow: just enter '256'
[03:28] <rafa> i installed ubuntu in my durun wit sis adapter video onboard
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl grub can compensate for a boot loader that wasn't written scince grub has been updated
[03:29] <rafa> but no function correct
[03:29] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, that was my initial configuration
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl docs suggest it can but you need to tweak
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl but that is a risk
[03:29] <bryanl> ikonia_: i know how grub works, and grub can make vista boot
[03:29] <Askar> inkonia_: no now its feisty.. Is it that easy? I mean there must be something in the file, I dont know what?
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl great
[03:30] <ikonia_> Askar you asked about this the other day, fesity is in #ubuntu+1 and this is a known bug on the forums
[03:30] <Askar> ikonia_: sorry i meant edgy..
[03:30] <Askar> ikonia_: :(
[03:31] <ikonia_> Askar still a known problem, still available on the forums
[03:31] <ikonia_> Askar bottom line is "create one"
[03:31] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, going to give up for now -- thanks for the help!
[03:33] <wo0lverine> hello
[03:33] <Askar> ikonia_: "It has do to with the fact that Ubuntu is replacing sysvinit with something new and shiny called upstart. "
[03:33] <ikonia_> nope
[03:33] <ikonia_> still need an inittab
[03:33] <simon__> hello
[03:33] <ikonia_> !upstart >askar
[03:33] <kane77> how do I redirect output of a process into a file while still having the output outputed in terminal? (so basicaly save a copy of it)
[03:33] <simon__> is here anybody who was installing ubuntu on virtual machine /
[03:34] <Askar> !upstart
[03:34] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:34] <ikonia_> kane77 tee
[03:34] <albacker> ## Checking for Gtk+ >= 2.6.0
[03:34] <albacker> pkg-config --atleast-version=2.6.0 gtk+-2.0
[03:34] <albacker> !! Please install Gtk+ 2.6.0 or above and the Gtk+ development files. Gtk+ can be
[03:34] <albacker> where do i find GTK+ >= 2.6.0 ?
[03:34] <ikonia_> albacker if its not in the repo - you'd have to build it, which may break gnome
[03:34] <kane77> ikonia_, thanx
[03:34] <ikonia_> albacker what are you trying to build
[03:34] <albacker> ikonia, thunar..
[03:35] <albacker> 0.8 needs GTK >=2.6.0 it look like i have an older version.
[03:35] <albacker> ikonia, how do i know my vers of GTK+ ?
[03:35] <ikonia_> albacker whats the problem with using the packaged version from ubuntu repo's ?
[03:35] <Crazytom> are there any wireless guru's around?
[03:35] <albacker> ikonia_, Toma told me it was an older version, and 0.8 is much more better.
[03:35] <asoldier> I came here to do two things, chew bubble gum and kick ass..... and I'm all out of bubble gum....
[03:36] <ikonia_> albacker well you risk breaking your system dependencies for your whole box, so its up to you
[03:36] <r_rehashed> how do I remove the icons of the Hard-disk partitions on my desktop, without unmounting the partitions?
[03:36] <Crazytom> i'm having trouble getting any of my wireless cards working
[03:36] <ikonia_> r_rehashed its a rare gconf2 setting
[03:36] <ikonia_> r_rehashed hidden away
[03:36] <r_rehashed> ok, ty
[03:37] <albacker> ikonia_, ill go for repo's one
[03:38] <tuxcrafter> does someone know how to unmount a dir with lufs ftpfs
[03:38] <r_rehashed> ikonia_: can I use `configuration editor' to edit gconf?
[03:38] <albacker> ikonia_, with thunar, looks much better. and yeah it worked :)
[03:39] <_Krull_> Can someone help me install a theme from a tgz file PLEASE
[03:39] <Crazytom> is ifconfig eth1 up not supposed to work on ubuntu?
[03:39] <dyrne> _Krull_: gtk theme?
[03:39] <_Krull_> file
[03:39] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. how to change the splash screen background? Splash screen that I mean is, when we enter user name and password, there will be a screen dat shows loading nautilus, etc .. I want to change the background not the image ... please help me
[03:39] <r_rehashed> ikonia_: when I search for `hidden away', it shows, `pattern not found'
[03:39] <_Krull_> yes
[03:39] <Lord_Maynoth> Does anyone here know if it is necessary to do a "sudo make install" instead of just "make install"
[03:41] <dyrne> _Krull_: unpack the file. in gnome ithink you can do this just by doubleclicking and using fileroller or whatever to open it and drag the directory to your desktop
[03:41] <Hantu_jeruk_nipi> halo
[03:41] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. DOes anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[03:41] <dyrne> _Krull_: then open a terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop" hit enter and type sudo mv directoryname/ /usr/share/themes/  i believe
[03:42] <dyrne> _Krull_: not on ubuntu right now but i think /usr/share/themes/ is right
[03:42] <_Krull_> archive manager won't open it
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> what is the difference between "make clean" and make "uninstall"
[03:43] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: clean rm's the object files and other intermediate files of the compilation form the source tree. uninstall does what it claims
[03:43] <LearningToFly> Where can i find IRC channel list &
[03:43] <dyrne> _Krull_: well do this first then "tar xfvz filename"
[03:43] <erUSUL> LearningToFly: of the whole freenode network? /list
[03:44] <Lord_Maynoth> erUSUL, can you "make uninstall" then "make clean"?
[03:44] <Robinsjostrom> if i have a hardrive with vista installed can i then install ubuntu on that disk and multiboot both vista and ubuntu?
[03:45] <zipito> hi! does ubuntu runs Oracle 10.2.0 ?
[03:46] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. how to change the splash screen background? Splash screen that I mean is, when we enter user name and password, there will be a screen dat shows loading nautilus, etc .. I want to change the background not the image ... please help me
[03:48] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: it could be that the clean erases the info that the uninstall part needs to do its job
[03:48] <c03> video lags in fullscreen
[03:48] <c03> in vlc
[03:48] <c03> got intel graphics
[03:49] <Lord_Maynoth> erUSUL, Thanks
[03:49] <sky_walkie> hi KeeNaf - go to control Center -> Login Window -> Users and try change Default Face
[03:50] <Brendan1> Is there a way to install non-kernel upgrades, but hold back the new kernel?
[03:50] <c03> Can anoyone help me ?
[03:50] <Feliziano> hola
[03:50] <jo_> hello people :)
[03:50] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: no problem
[03:50] <Feliziano> alguien habla castellano?
[03:51] <Shane-S> I need help my crontab job doesn't seem to be running, can anyone help me troubleshoot it?
[03:51] <erUSUL> !es | Feliziano
[03:51] <ubotu> Feliziano: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:51] <_Krull_> I done it but there are two files to choose from in 'install theme', one is gtk-2.0, and the other is a gzip file Cheetah-Overlaid.emerald
[03:51] <jo_> !es
[03:51] <Lord_Maynoth> !de
[03:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:51] <jo_> !e
[03:51] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:51] <jo_> !es
[03:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:52] <jo_> Feliziano: !es > Feliziano
[03:52] <Brendan1> castellano no es lo mismo que espanol
[03:52] <jo_> no
[03:52] <erUSUL> jo_: do not play here with the bot... use /msg ubotu es
[03:52] <jo_> !castellano
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about castellano - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <snille> !kiba-dock
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <jo_> erUSUL: not playing
[03:53] <erUSUL> Brendan1: really? and what is the difference?
[03:53] <snille> !kibadock
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kibadock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Brendan1> they are related though, if s/he speaks castellano, he probably speaks spanish too
[03:53] <_Krull_> dynre, think you know what to instruct me now?
[03:54] <mmartinez> Sounds to me like Synaptic is the closest equivalent of "Add and Remove Programs" + "Program Files" in Windows.....is this a correct assumption?
[03:54] <erUSUL> Brendan1: i'm spanish from spain and i can tell you that both are the same :)
[03:54] <Brendan1> Really? I thought people who spoke castillian got really offended if you said they were
[03:54] <mmartinez> Brendan1....
[03:54] <Brendan1> maybe I'm thinking of catalan
[03:55] <jo_> Brendan1: castellano is spanish and you mean catalan?
[03:55] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386  .. 2.6.15-26-386 boots fine
[03:55] <NoWhereToTurn> also noticed that the problem entries in Grub had no "initrd /initd.." lines.. even after adding them still no change
[03:55] <Lord_Maynoth> what are the implications of doing a "make install" without using "sudo"?
[03:56] <Brendan1> So...is it possible to get upgrades without upgrading the kernel? Or am I just stuck not upgrading?
[03:56] <mmartinez> Brendan....that is something I never understood....what differentiates Castellano from the Spanish I know (which is Mexican Spanish)?
[03:56] <jo_> i need to know how much VideoRAM my card has, where can i see it, under lspci -v????????
[03:56] <JohnRobert> mmartinez: do you know kirk martinez?
[03:57] <rlj> is there a way to tune the interval for kjournald accessing the drive (and what does it actually do? is it needed?) in order to be able to have my laptop drive spin down to save power?
[03:57] <voraistos> mmartinez the difference is in the accent
[03:57] <mmartinez> LOL.....accent?
[03:57] <Hoxzer> ~~
[03:57] <jo_> i need to know vram, what do i type in termina?????
[03:58] <voraistos> well, in Madrid the call it Madriz
[03:58] <erUSUL> !repeat > jo_
[03:58] <mmartinez> You mean...donde el acento suena en las palabras dichas or escritas?
[03:59] <voraistos> si, pero, sabes, no soy espanol at all dude
[03:59] <jo_> erUSUL: you wanna help or correct me? cause i'm not here for fun
[03:59] <jo_> erUSUL: aha, ok
[04:00] <mmartinez> Ubotu....are you around?
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you around? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <mmartinez> Oh...you a bot...
[04:01] <erUSUL> jo_: lspci -v | grep ' prefet*'
[04:01] <mmartinez> I wasn't aware of that...
[04:01] <Brendan1> !botsnack
[04:01] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:01] <Xif> what's a good distributed shell for Ubuntu?
[04:01] <jo_> erUSUL: thanks a lot man
[04:01] <mmartinez> BASH....
[04:01] <Khaatio> sh
[04:01] <mmartinez> it's Ubunt's default...que no?
[04:02] <Khaatio> the default is tcsh
[04:02] <voraistos> yeah wanna talk about bash ? im just compiling it :P
[04:02] <mmartinez> Khaatio...what is : tcsh?
[04:02] <Xif> yeah but it's not distributed
[04:02] <erUSUL> Khaatio: wrong it is bash or dash
[04:02] <Crazytom> iwconfig see's my wireless card but then it says "no such device"
[04:02] <BobZero> hi
[04:03] <BobZero> i tried to install openssh
[04:03] <Crazytom> can someone please give me a hand?
[04:03] <voraistos> hmm if i remember they made dash standard in ubuntu, not bash anymore
[04:03] <ikonia_> Crazytom then it doesn't see your card
[04:03] <ikonia_> voraistos yup, spot on its dash
[04:03] <Crazytom> it gives me stats on it
[04:03] <erUSUL> voraistos: only for /bin/sh the login shell it's still bash afaik
[04:03] <BobZero> but the configure cant finde an acceptable c compiler
[04:03] <voraistos> stupid imho
[04:03] <ikonia_> erUSUL ahh so sh is a sylink to dash, but basj is still bash
[04:04] <Crazytom> also i see it in the network settings gui
[04:04] <ikonia_> BobZero is a c compiler installed
[04:04] <ikonia_> Crazytom so configure it in the gui
[04:04] <killown> I have erased gub but now I want to install again and I dont get I have ubuntu live disc....  I need  grub again please help -me
[04:04] <Brendan1> I thought bash was the standard for just about all Linux
[04:04] <voraistos> to exec configure you better use bash
[04:04] <ikonia_> killown without a live cd - you cannot do anything
[04:04] <BobZero> how i can check if a comlpiler is installed?
[04:04] <killown> I have  tried grub-install /dev/hda it dont work
[04:04] <ikonia_> Brendan1 its the most popular
[04:04] <Crazytom> it wont connect
[04:04] <ikonia_> !grub >killown
[04:04] <killown> ikonia, but I have live cd
[04:04] <erUSUL> ikonia_: afaics yes you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash to make sh point to bash
[04:04] <killown> ikonia, !grub help dont help
[04:05] <voraistos> apt-get install build-essential      for a nice c compiler :)
[04:05] <killown> I do update-grub
[04:05] <erUSUL> BobZero: install build-essential
[04:05] <killown> it dont work
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown why not
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown why doesn't that help
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown what errors do you get
[04:05] <BobZero> i dont understand
[04:05] <killown> why I follow tutorial and dont get sucess
[04:05] <Crazytom> ikonia it won't connect to my network
[04:05] <killown> ikonia, /dev/hda not exist
[04:06] <mmartinez> maybe the nic is fine....
[04:06] <voraistos> /dev/hdb then
[04:06] <killown> how I set grub to mbr? then?
[04:06] <mmartinez> maybe it's your access point....
[04:06] <voraistos> or hdc, hdd, etc ..
[04:06] <killown> voraistos, too not exist
[04:06] <Crazytom> i've actually tried two and windows
[04:06] <killown> nothing hd* exist
[04:06] <ikonia_> killown is your primary boot disk /dev/hda ?
[04:06] <erUSUL> killown: have you checked the wiki page ubotu send you??
[04:06] <killown> ikonia, yes
[04:06] <voraistos> hey you mean in grub ?
[04:06] <voraistos> doesnt work like that.
[04:06] <ikonia_> killown and on the livecd /dev/hda doesn't exist ?
[04:06] <killown> yes
[04:06] <killown> dont exist
[04:07] <killown> how I do to create /dev/hda?
[04:07] <killown> I need mbr
[04:07] <voraistos> they call it hd(0,0) for hda i think
[04:07] <Crazytom> both my wireless cards showed up without ndiswrapper but neither worked so i installed it
[04:07] <ikonia_> killown if your disk is /dev/hda and its not seen on the live cd - either your disk is broke or your ide chipset is not supported
[04:07] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know any way to make a deb file other than checkinstall?
[04:07] <voraistos> or he dsnt have ide
[04:08] <killown> ikonia, but I can mount /dev/hda3 << too not exist
[04:08] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth yup but its long
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown fdisk -l /dev/hda please
[04:08] <killown> however I can to mount
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[04:08] <killown> but I am not in linux now
[04:08] <killown> sorry
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown forget it then
[04:08] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, is their a guide for it?  I would really love to make this program I compiled into a deb but checkinstall can't do it
[04:08] <killown> ok
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth there is but I don't have access to the web at this moment
[04:09] <c03> can anyone help with ubuntu fullscreen xgl lag problem???
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth so I can't search for you
[04:09] <killown> ikonia, I have installed windows xp and it erased grub
[04:09] <ikonia_> killown yes, I understand that
[04:09] <killown> have huge problem
[04:09] <ikonia_> killown no you don't
[04:09] <B|00d|u5T> what up all
[04:09] <voraistos> killown yeah. dont install malware anymore please
[04:09] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, what should I search for I will be happy to :)
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth debian deb packaging - something like that
[04:10] <B|00d|u5T> im tryin to get a runnable dvd burning proggie i tried k9copy and it freezes up everytime i clik the open folder any other dvd copying proggie ideas?
[04:10] <voraistos> Lord* if you go on the ubuntu help page, they have a tutorial
[04:10] <B|00d|u5T> sorry wrong chan
[04:10] <killown> ikonia, I too tried to install grub in /dev/fd0 My floopy disc but /dev/fd0 also not exist
[04:11] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, thanks
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> well w8 thats a ubuntu question
[04:11] <voraistos> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/
[04:11] <ikonia_> killown you don't install grub to /dev/X  grub works in a different way, which is you had read the docs you said you had you would know
[04:11] <killown> ok
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> dosnt grub install to root
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> ?
[04:11] <Crazytom> what's about the best time to come here for help because I see it is way too crowded and there are too many people asking questions and too few people with the knowledge.  oh and I have to leave.  thanks for the help i did get  i'll be back later
[04:12] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T what ?
[04:12] <ikonia_> Crazytom its always like this
[04:12] <Crazytom> ikonia really?
[04:12] <ikonia_> Crazytom this is quiet
[04:12] <voraistos> usually its worse
[04:12] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- i tried usin k9copy to copy dvds and it freezes up when i click open.... any idas of other good dvd copiers
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> Crazytom -- i was on here late last night askin a million questions and im here early this mourn lol
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> thats just me ;0)
[04:13] <voraistos> i created a personnal channel to help people when its too crowded
[04:13] <SoulChild> HEY ALL: short question: do i need the Sources in me repositories ?
[04:13] <voraistos> nope
[04:13] <voraistos> but they can be usefull
[04:13] <SoulChild> for ?
[04:13] <voraistos> compiling stuff :)
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> SoulChild - you need to add under 3rd party tab in Software Sorces
[04:13] <Crazytom> i have to go climbing now, so I guess i'll come back tommorow morning to get my wireless fixed
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> system/admin/software sources
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> thrird party tab
[04:14] <Kronuz> morning
[04:14] <Khaatio> night
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and type deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and add
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and
[04:14] <Khaatio> don't morning
[04:15] <Kronuz> hey, I have a GeForce 6600 but I can't select my monitor's native resolution (1280x1024), does anybody know how can I activate the option?
[04:15] <Khaatio> use old video card
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> then
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz are you using the nvidia drivers ?
[04:16] <Kronuz> I have a ViewSonic VX922 LCD monitor
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_: I think I am
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> add this one 2   deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz what do you mean - are you yes or no, did you install them ? did you configure them ?
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I got them and Beryl
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> add this too   deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_, with a script that said it would install NVIDIA drivers
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz beryl has nothing to do with this, why are you trying to mess with beryl when you havn't sorted your video cards out
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz what script ?
[04:17] <Kronuz> and when I start X it says NVIDIA
[04:17] <B|00d|u5T> any suggestions on Ubuntu dvd copying, im assuming you have seen my prob with k9copy
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz thats a good sign
[04:17] <marin> http://wimaxequipment.blogspot.com/
[04:17] <Khaatio> use general nvidia driver
[04:17] <Kronuz> ikonia_, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[04:17] <Kronuz> that's where I found the script
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz ughhhhh
[04:17] <ikonia_> !nvidia >Kronuz
[04:18] <Khaatio> ugh
[04:18] <ikonia_> Kronuz read that link - forget beryl for the moment and try those instructions
[04:18] <Kronuz> ikonia_, which instructions?
[04:18] <Kronuz> oh
[04:18] <ikonia_> !nvidia >Kronuz
[04:18] <Kronuz> :)
[04:18] <Kronuz> thanks
[04:18] <ikonia_> no problem
[04:18] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- any suggestions on dvd copy software for ubuntu?
[04:19] <ikonia_> Kronuz waslk before running
[04:19] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T what about it
[04:19] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia - - i tried k9copy but it freezes everything when i click open..
[04:19] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T and..... ?
[04:19] <aKKiLLa> Hey guys, I want to resize my ubuntu pqartiton and install windows xp on a small part of my drive so I can run this custom app for my company.    Is there an easy way to install windows on my ubuntu comp and still get the dual bot options?
[04:20] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa install windows, then ubuntu - dead easy
[04:20] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- i need one that dosn't freez up when i click open to select a dvd then shut down :)
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> yeah not what I want to do
[04:20] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T search synaptic for the programs then
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> maybe what I need to do
[04:20] <robdeman> hi folks.. how can I make a backup.tar.gz from directory 'mydirectory' and then skip all .mpg files in 'mydirectory' ?
[04:20] <Jowi> aKKiLLa, windows will overwrite your grub.
[04:20] <Khaatio> first you have to delete the partition
[04:20] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa ok - install windows, then re-install grub
[04:20] <LINCE3> hello people
[04:20] <Jowi> !grub | aKKiLLa
[04:20] <ubotu> aKKiLLa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:20] <phaedrus444> ello..anyone here have the z810 cups driver for lexmark printers?..apparently the website to get is down...been trying for like a week
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> thanks
[04:20] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- thats my question.. i dont know any names of the burning programs except that one
[04:20] <LINCE3> I have some problems installing edgy
[04:20] <Nitro> I got to ask..
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> I was wondering how hard getting grub reinstalled
[04:20] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T search for"dvd"
[04:21] <Nitro> For a laptop, what's best, Gnome or KDE?
[04:21] <B|00d|u5T> k sorry didn't konw that'd werk
[04:21] <aKKiLLa> wow awsome... thanks for the link
[04:21] <LINCE3> the process crash at 82% (scanning mirror)
[04:21] <Kronuz> ikonia_, hey, by the way, I tried to activate the other repositories in the package manager... and I was getting a weird error during refresh... something like it couldn't lock the directory or something
[04:21] <PipIWYG> Hi Guys... I get the following error when I launch the installer
[04:21] <LINCE3> "configuring apt"
[04:21] <LINCE3> how can I skip this step?
[04:22] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T well you didn't try very hard,just brough up 5 apps for me
[04:22] <ikonia_> 6 apps sorry
[04:23] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia_ -- really???? whats their names i see no dvd copying programs
[04:23] <ikonia_> search
[04:23] <ikonia_> enable repo's and search
[04:23] <aKKiLLa> what is the tool to resize partition?
[04:23] <LjL> !gparted
[04:23] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:23] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa gparted
[04:23] <PipIWYG> Hi Guys... I get the following error when I launch the installer: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: The remote application did not send a reply. The message bus security policy blocked the reply. The reply timeout expired or the network connection was broken. Gnome will still try to restart the settings dameon, next time you log in
[04:24] <aKKiLLa> danx
[04:24] <techie> trying to help a friend to try ubuntu liveced, everytime he reboots his windows the it overpasses ubuntu and goes back to windows. What can I tell him to do to insure that ubuntu will load up?
[04:24] <B|00d|u5T> i got dvdr+Rw tools and all those shits but you cant copy a dvd with them shits
[04:24] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa boot fromthe cd
[04:24] <LjL> techie: go into the BIOS and select the CD as the first boot medium?
[04:24] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I don't need to see the lanague
[04:24] <aKKiLLa> ok
[04:24] <ikonia_> techie that was mean for you not aKKiLLa
[04:24] <B|00d|u5T> k
[04:25] <techie> Ikonia...are we talking about the livecd question?
[04:25] <techie> ok
[04:25] <ikonia_> techie yes, make sure the bios is set to boot fromthe cd
[04:25] <ikonia_> as ljl suggested
[04:25] <techie> i will tell him that .
[04:25] <mweichert_> does anyone else has problems with rdesktop after upgrading to feisty fawn?
[04:25] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. DOes anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[04:26] <ikonia_> mweichert_ you'll get a better response in #ubuntu+1
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i just dont understand why you cant help man i asked for the name of a program.. and instead you find the answer to my question evidentally 6 answers and dont tell me the name sorry getting a bit frustrated i wouldn't be asking you if i hand't already looked thats why i need help.....
[04:26] <mweichert_> rdesktop is now *painlessly* slow
[04:26] <mweichert_> ikonia: oh okay thanks
[04:26] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I'm trying to teach you how to do things yourself - rather than be spoonfed
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i appreciate it
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> but i know how to search in synaptic package manager
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i had to install beryl
[04:26] <Kronuz> hey, I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor and I'm using 32 bit Ubuntu, should I get linux-image-386 or linux-image-686?
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> and ran ubuntu for almost 2 years
[04:26] <SaLoMoN> Kronuz,
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> just got a dvd burner a year ago
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> try k8
[04:27] <xopher> Kronuz, just get the -generic
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> or k7
[04:27] <Kronuz> o_O
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> or generic
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> ..
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> was running windows for the past year cuz i could never find software with ubuntu that acutally worked to COPY dvds
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> that was my question
[04:27] <seb-_> hello, does anyone know whether there is a support for the nforce 570 ultra chipset in ubuntu 6.10?
[04:27] <Kronuz> :P
[04:27] <Kronuz> I think it's already installed then
[04:27] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T you can't know how to search - if I get 6 apps and you get nothing
[04:28] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T enable the repo's and search
[04:28] <ikonia_> they may not be of any use to you, but at least try them see if they are what you want
[04:28] <Surb> what can I use to resize my / partition?
[04:28] <PipIWYG> Yea, I have to agree... getting help in this place is absoluetly ridiculous.I don't know why they even have this irc channel on the darn web site... it's filled with a bunch or arrogant "we know it all, and you can figure it out for yourself" people
[04:28] <B|00d|u5T> is there a repository address i need to add besieds the beryl repos i added to install it?
[04:28] <ikonia_> PipIWYG if its that bad - don'task
[04:29] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T all the ubuntu ones are a good start
[04:29] <ikonia_> PipIWYG on the other hand the people asking the questions could be people who refuse to read the documents to understand the basics
[04:29] <ikonia_> PipIWYG which makes people who can help not want to spoon feed them the answer
[04:30] <old_cymuHep>  !
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> !GD
[04:30] <Robinsjostrom> one spoon for mommy, one spoon for daddy........
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <B|00d|u5T> see i was usin vobcopy but you gotta interlace the video and audio b4 u burn when u use that prog
[04:30] <robper> I've got Ubuntu 6.10 so I can boot from a kingston USB key.. but I can't seem to get the network up and running.. care to give me some suggestions? DHCP btw
[04:30] <ikonia_> !ru >old_cymuHep
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> !gd
[04:30] <osghaier> salut
[04:30] <JHSands> Hello all. I am looking at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport page and wondering what wireless card (WPA2 capable) is recommended for "out of the box"
[04:30] <ikonia_> robper can you see eth0 ? or the network card in the network config gui
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> ????
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> LOL
[04:30] <leros> My pointer bounces when I put it near the edge of my screen. Is there anyway to stop this? Its causing problems for synergy.
[04:30] <ikonia_> old_cymuHep what ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> leros,  bounces?
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ so what i am rus?
[04:31] <osghaier> hello
[04:31] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I have the nvidia-gfx installed and running
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ i dont need that channel
[04:31] <ikonia_> old_cymuHep my mistake
[04:31] <zero-9376> does anyone know if its possible to return a remote app (from putty) to the local display?
[04:31] <osghaier> i am french
[04:31] <Kronuz> ikonia_, then how come I can't select the 1280x1024 resolution?
[04:31] <leros> dr_willis, like it bounces a few pixels of the edge. Instead of just sitting there
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ ;)
[04:32] <ikonia_> zero-9376 you need a local X server running on windows
[04:32] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. Does anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[04:32] <ikonia_> Kronuz do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see whats available
[04:32] <Dr_willis> zero-9376,  you mean have a X aplication jump from a X display on  one machine, and reappear on a 2nd machine?
[04:32] <old_cymuHep> !gd-lib
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <JHSands> !wireless
[04:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:32] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I'm there, what's next? select nvidia driver?
[04:33] <zero-9376> i have an app on windows through ssh and xming (xserver) but want to send it back to the local display
[04:33] <Dr_willis> leros,   not sure ive ever seen it do that.  You could try some other window manager as a test. to see if it has a similer effect.  It may be some effect of a gnome setting to auto switch desktops, or window border settings./
[04:33] <Kronuz> (vesa is selected by default)
[04:33] <ikonia_> Kronuz yup, the menu should walk you through it
[04:33] <ikonia_> leros you need an X server running on your local machine
[04:33] <Kronuz> ikonia_, okay, let me see... thanks :)
[04:34] <leros> ikonia_, what do you mean?
[04:34] <ikonia_> leros is your local machine windows ?
[04:34] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now it's asking me for the bus identifier :S
[04:34] <leros> my local machine is windows running the synergy server, ubuntu is the client.
[04:34] <ikonia_> Kronuz that should be fine
[04:34] <Kronuz> the default one?
[04:35] <ikonia_> Kronuz yes - it should be filled in already
[04:35] <zero-9376> anyone know anything about this
[04:35] <Kronuz> how much RAM should I use?
[04:35] <Kronuz> (I have 2 Gigs in my PC)
[04:35] <ikonia_> leros so you will need an X server on your windows client to export X11 apps to your dkestop
[04:35] <ikonia_> Kronuz leave it blank
[04:35] <Kronuz> ok
[04:35] <Kronuz> :S
[04:36] <JHSands> has anyone used a 3Ware 8006 Sata controller ?
[04:36] <leros> i dont want to to do that. I just want to be able to use my mouse and keyboard on both machines.
[04:36] <ikonia_> JHSands I think so - hang on
[04:36] <ikonia_> lerosyou need a KVM
[04:36] <Kronuz> ikonia_, should I use framebuffer?
[04:36] <ikonia_> Kronuz nah
[04:36] <dyrne> zero-9376: you want to xforward something?
[04:36] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everybody
[04:36] <ikonia_> leros  you need a kvm
[04:36] <krawallequalle> the internet is for chilporn and terrorism.
[04:36] <zero-9376> say i have azureus running over ssh on my windows machine can i send it to the local/server display?
[04:36] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- didn't mean to have an attitude w u bro, jus a lil frustrated and tired
[04:37] <Chai_Sangeen> can anyone help me out with sql-ledger i installed it but i don;t see any files on the /var/www/
[04:37] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I'm frustrated of helping people who can't be bothered, thats why I don't spoon feed
[04:37] <ikonia_> takl of spoonfeeding, here we go again
[04:37] <leros> ikonia_ im using synergy right now and it works fine. i know what im doing
[04:37] <ikonia_> leros I may have got your question mixed up with someone elses - sorry
[04:37] <ikonia_> leros channel is moving fast
[04:38] <leros> ikonia_ is ok
[04:38] <Brendan1> Does anyone know how to get the visualizers goom of galaktos working in VLC? Are they not compiled in the default VLC package? Do I have to recompile VLC?
[04:38] <Brendan1> *goom or galaktos
[04:39] <zero-9376> nobody? i have cant find anything on google regarding this
[04:39] <ikonia_> zero-9376 what do you want
[04:39] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia_ - im installin gnomebaker im guessin i can copy with it
[04:40] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now I'm in the part it's asking me about my monitor's refresh rates
[04:40] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T yup, thats not bad
[04:40] <Kronuz> it's a LCD monitor
[04:40] <poogle> my X only looks good the first time running after a reboot. after the first time, the resolution is huge. what would cause this?
[04:40] <ikonia_> Kronuz just continue on
[04:40] <B|00d|u5T> right on
[04:40] <|thunder> AT&T just called here, some jack ass was try to tell he they had 6 GigaByte high speed. i was like "try again."
[04:40] <zero-9376> i have an app in a remote session (via ssh with xming) and want to 'export' the app back to the main display
[04:40] <ikonia_> zero-9376 ok
[04:40] <ikonia_> zero-9376 whats not clear
[04:40] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now I should just restart X, right?
[04:41] <ikonia_> Kronuz yeah
[04:41] <Kronuz> ctrl+alt+bksp
[04:41] <Kronuz> brb
[04:41] <zero-9376> i dont know how to export the application back without killing it
[04:41] <ikonia_> zero-9376 your not going to be able to as its running on a remote X server you really need to do it before launching the app
[04:42] <|thunder> Kronuz; ther are safer ways of restarting X. like /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> sweet
[04:43] <zero-9376> so i cant 'move' a running app...what i want to do is start a torrent program on my laptop remotely then send it back without killing the torrent program
[04:43] <|thunder> Kronuz; but its best to logout of X first
[04:43] <Kronuz> ikonia_, well, the resolution worked (although it's using 50Hz, and I believe my LCD's is 60Hz)
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> supposobly its copying the dvd now
[04:43] <ikonia_> |thunder that doesn't restart X - just gdm
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> lets see
[04:43] <|thunder> wrong
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz well thats a start
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> if ubuntu runs this good while burning i will be very impressed
[04:43] <ikonia_> |thunder really, I'm surprised, but fair enough
[04:43] <Kronuz> but beryl is not working now :(
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz of course its not
[04:43] <Kronuz> oh
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz you need to configure beryl again
[04:43] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; then why does it restart my nvidia driver ?  its all of X, not just the greeter.
[04:44] <Kronuz> hmm... I didn't configure it last time, I just used the script I told you about
[04:44] <ikonia_> !beryl >Kronuz
[04:44] <ikonia_> there you go
[04:44] <ikonia_> Kronuz also check the ubuntu wiki - great info on there
[04:44] <JHSands> ikonia: this is the only thing I have found regarding the 3ware SATA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/3ware_9500
[04:44] <JHSands> but mine is an 8006
[04:44] <ikonia_> JHSandsI forgot abotu you - sorry hang on a minute
[04:44] <ikonia_> JHSands let me check minue
[04:45] <Jowi> B|00d|u5T, |thunder: "pstree" is a nice command. let's you know which parent process own which child. gdm -> Xorg
[04:45] <Jowi> gdm starts Xorg
[04:46] <ikonia_> JHSandssorry mine is a 9xxxx too
[04:46] <JHSands> thanks for your time ikonia :)
[04:46] <ikonia_> wt8008:0c.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 9xxx-series SATA-RAID
[04:46] <ikonia_> JHSands sorry I forgot about you
[04:47] <larsivi> I just dist-upgraded to Feisty, but seems to not get proper dns - only thing I'm getting to is Freenode :P
[04:48] <Robinsjostrom> larsivi: wow almost totaly isolated
[04:48] <B|00d|u5T> darn gnomebaker isn't werkin either
[04:48] <ikonia_> larsivi 1.) does disupgrade move to fesity - I didn't think it did 2.) fesity support is in #ubuntu+1 3.) if you can resolve freenode then you have name resolvutioneither via dns or the hsots file
[04:49] <techie_> What a good resource/book for learning the Linux language?
[04:50] <thestriker> i have put 7 gb on the root system and 2 gb on the home..does this mean my /home is on the 2 gb
[04:50] <larsivi> ikonia_: thanks, will check out the other channel (but was able to dist-upgrade, yes :) )
[04:50] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: yes
[04:50] <killermach> I installed avidemux w/ synaptic and I see that it installed file /usr/share/menu/avidemux  but I don't see it on my menu.. how do I get it on the Applications menu?
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> hrmmmm could all thsee errors b becuz i never mounted my cdrom drive
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> or does it automatically do that
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> on install
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> hrmm
[04:51] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, how many gbs have u kept 4 ur root system?
[04:51] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: i use vista =P
[04:51] <dustin_> help i crashed my x server when upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 what do i do
[04:51] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, sorry..but ur on the ubuntu forums right?
[04:52] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: yea im just reading and helping if i can
[04:52] <Heavenquake> Some time ago, I stumbled upon an aptitude/apt-get command that downloaded all files needed to build a given package. Like headerfiles 'nd such.. I don't remember what the command was?
[04:52] <psynaps3> how do i create a vcd from dat files? which tool should i use?
[04:52] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, ok so now u have upgraded to vista from ubuntu..do i get it right?
[04:53] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: build-essentials
[04:53] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom: wat i wanna ask is how much did u keep when u used to use?
[04:53] <thestriker> i have kept 7 gb and i am having problems now
[04:53] <dyrne> dustin_: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  choose the defautl options and select vesa as your driver. or just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and scroll down to Driver nv or ati or nvidia and change to Driver "vesa"
[04:53] <Robinsjostrom> thefish: what kind of problems are you having?
[04:53] <Heavenquake> zero-9376: Not that. I mean, in order to for example build KDevelop from source, then there were some command to download all files needed to build that certain package
[04:54] <techie_> !linux
[04:54] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:54] <|thunder> thanks Jowi , and i was right, restarting gdm restarts X
[04:54] <B|00d|u5T> none of these programs are working for copying dvds
[04:54] <heinz55> http://www.drogendealer.de/cgi-bin/dd.cgi?z8nBe44s
[04:55] <dyrne> Heavenquake: like apt-get -b source packagename ?
[04:55] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: do you mean apt-get source
[04:55] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; nope, it suxx, you have to run dvdshrink under wine
[04:55] <B|00d|u5T> |thunder -- do u konw of a page explaining how to install wine?
[04:56] <|thunder> its easy
[04:56] <ikonia_> !ine B|00d|u5T
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ine b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <|thunder> hang
[04:56] <B|00d|u5T> |thunder - - does it @#$# up ubuntu to install wine?
[04:56] <zero-9376> so does anyone know about what i should do to send a running remote app to local x server
[04:56] <Heavenquake> I don't mean the sourcefiles for the package. I mean the libs(kdelibs etc etc.) and tools (autoconf etc. etc.) needed to build the package source.
[04:56] <ikonia_> !wine >!B|00d|ust
[04:56] <cjvail13> i need help with my screen resolution.  it gives me three options but the three it gives me are not the ones that i need
[04:56] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; no
[04:56] <dyrne> zero-9376: id like to know that too if you figure it out
[04:56] <B|00d|u5T> awesome
[04:56] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T just sent you the doc on how to install it
[04:56] <ikonia_> zero-9376 I've told you - you can't
[04:57] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: the package-dev files?
[04:57] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; http://www.winehq.com/site/download
[04:57] <B|00d|u5T> sweet
[04:57] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now, what about the refresh being 50Hz instead of 60Hz?
[04:57] <psynaps3> how do i create a vcd from dat files? which tool should i use?
[04:57] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; just install it from repo and winecfg
[04:57] <zero-9376> ikonia sorry didnt see that
[04:57] <ikonia_> Kronuz you can set it manually int he xorg.conf if you are confident
[04:58] <Jowi> Kronuz, you can set Vertrefresh to "60" instead of the range that is there if you want to force it to a specifig refresh rate in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <Jowi> Kronuz, recommended to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[04:59] <cjvail13> can someone help me
[05:00] <DARKGuy> !ask
[05:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:00] <ikonia_> ask the question, and we'll know
[05:00] <francois> cjvail13: can't help you if you don't ask
[05:00] <Kronuz> Jowi, there's a range there (43-60)
[05:00] <zero-9376> ok what about launching an app and then having it continue running if i close the terminal?
[05:00] <ikonia_> I'm getting so fed up of "can you help me"
[05:00] <Kronuz> should I just change it to 60?
[05:00] <francois> ikonia_: agreed
[05:00] <ikonia_> zero-9376 & nohup
[05:00] <ranphatje> Question: I have a PCMCIA Sitecom firewire card. Now ubuntu detects the card but when i plug in a HDD is resets the bus id and doesn't work anymore. Now i wanting to buy a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card and want to buy a good one that works with ubunut flawless. any sugesstions?
[05:00] <Jowi> Kronuz, yep. might work.
[05:00] <cjvail13> i have asked but no one has responded.  i need help with my screen resolution
[05:01] <Kronuz> also, I was wondering, can I activate my fourth and fifth buttons in my mouse?
[05:01] <DARKGuy> zero-9376: put a & after the command and close the terminal typing "exit" instead of closing the terminal with the X button
[05:01] <Kronuz> like for back/forward
[05:01] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what version of ubunut, what video card and what resolution do you want
[05:01] <zero-9376> DISPLAY=:0 nohup /opt/azureus/azureus runs azureus but then it dies when i close the terminal
[05:01] <Kronuz> (to use in firefox)
[05:01] <dyrne> cjvail13: people here have become a little jaded last year or so :) please restate the problem in full
[05:01] <ikonia_> zero-9376 & at the end
[05:01] <ikonia_> dyrne no one is jaded - don't cast distpurtion
[05:02] <cjvail13> version 6.10, geforce and 1280 x 720
[05:02] <crund> cast distpurtion?
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what video card
[05:02] <crund> cast aspertions, maybe?
[05:02] <zero-9376> thanks
[05:02] <dyrne> ikonia_: well i am. jaded that is :)
[05:02] <cjvail13> geforce 7300gt sorry
[05:02] <ikonia_> crund does someone aspire to be jaded ?
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 have you installed the nvidia drivers ?
[05:02] <cjvail13> yes
[05:02] <ikonia_> DARKGuy genius
[05:02] <crund> lol, or aspersions, at least
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 are you using them
[05:02] <DARKGuy> ikonia_ thanks xD
[05:02] <cjvail13> how do i do that
[05:03] <ikonia_> cjvail13 !nvidia >cjvail13 read that doc it explains how to set them up
[05:03] <ikonia_> oops
[05:03] <ikonia_> !nvidia >cjvail13
[05:03] <ikonia_> cjvail13 read that link
[05:03] <cjvail13> ok
[05:04] <Dr_willis> House cleaning day. :)
[05:04] <frankzhao> is there any software like netants, by which I can download software in ubuntu?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  whats netants?
[05:04] <ikonia_> frankzhao don't know wnat netants is
[05:04] <Dr_willis> i doubt if any of us do. :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I use the package managers - they download the stuff i want to install
[05:04] <crund> it's a hot game, like nethack, but with ants
[05:04] <El_Burro> do you have to install XP first if you want to dual boot it with Ubuntu?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> El_Burro,  thats best.
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund you'll gave to google
[05:05] <B|00d|u5T> yezzzir
[05:05] <B|00d|u5T> comin down @ 350kbs
[05:05] <El_Burro> cheers
[05:05] <crund> ikonia i've told you what it is
[05:05] <crund> next!
[05:05] <kash> wtf
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund I know, and I said you'll have to google
[05:05] <kash> linux kernel has DRM?
[05:05] <phaedrus444> help!...i need cups driver for lexmark   z810  !
[05:05] <ikonia_> kash ~I don't need to see that implied lanaguage
[05:05] <phaedrus444> : )
[05:05] <crund> ikonia i don't have to google anything
[05:05] <kash> ikonia_: wtf?
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund if you want to find it - I suggest you do
[05:06] <kash> or DRM
[05:06] <kash> both of which are evil
[05:06] <ikonia_> kash the first
[05:06] <kash> why does the linux kernel have DRM?
[05:06] <ikonia_> kash I'm surprised by the DRM though, explain
[05:06] <frankzhao> it is a software in windows; using it, you can continue to download from the last place I have failed
[05:06] <crund> ikonia um, there's nothing I want to find, nor did I request any information
[05:06] <PecisDarbs> how to see contents of deb package?
[05:06] <B|00d|u5T> soo how does it work with wine? do i just dl the ms versino of a program and just run the executeable or what?
[05:06] <crund> ikonia or you just like spewing out non-sequiturs?
[05:06] <kash>   CC [M]   drivers/char/drm/drm_context.o
[05:06] <ikonia_> crund sorry wrong nick - channel is moving fast, thought you wanted netants
[05:06] <francois> B|00d|u5T: just wine program.exe
[05:06] <crund> ikonia ok, i've decided to forgive you
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I sent you the link - do you see why people get fed up with helping you
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T the link explains it and you've STILL not read it and just in here
[05:07] <Alam_Ubuntu> kash, do you mean "Direct Rendering Manager"
[05:07] <ikonia_> crund ta
[05:07] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia i read it
[05:07] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  thers download managers out for linux, proz, wget, others...
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T it explains the commands and how it works
[05:07] <crund> ikonia slap him ... he didn't read it properly
[05:07] <kash> Alam_Ubuntu: yes, DRM
[05:07] <Alam_Ubuntu> kash, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM
[05:07] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  firefox has some extensions and features like that also.
[05:07] <ikonia_> crund its just rude "how do I, how do I how do I" and do no reading
[05:07] <crund> ikonia haha, i know it
[05:08] <smros> /h
[05:08] <crund> ikonia or those who refuse to read man pages
[05:08] <frankzhao> o, is it? I downloaded a file which is around 50MB from firefox
[05:08] <ikonia_> crund man ls "I know but how do I......." ughhhhhhh
[05:08] <kash> does this mean my songs won't play anymore
[05:08] <ikonia_> kash its not drm like copy protection, read the link
[05:09] <frankzhao> but i have downloaded it 3 times ... :( it is not continuing from the place which it failed
[05:09] <kash> ikonia_: i'm afraid of virus
[05:09] <crund> lol, "Linux! Now featuring DRM!" haha
[05:09] <ikonia_> kash what ??? so you won't read links
[05:09] <ikonia_> kash if you won't read links you may as well leave now as you'll get no-where
[05:09] <francois> burn
[05:10] <kash> what the hel?
[05:10] <kash> i'm worried for all these people
[05:10] <kash> they're using DRM and didnt' even know iT!!
[05:10] <Alam_Ubuntu> "The Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is a kernel module that gives direct hardware access to DRI clients." <- not Digtial Right Management
[05:10] <ikonia_> kash read the link
[05:10] <kash> how do i know i can trust youse guys
[05:10] <ikonia_> Alam_Ubuntu thats was a good link, thank you
[05:10] <ikonia_> !ops
[05:10] <francois> kash: then don't
[05:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:11] <apokryphos> ikonia: yes?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ?
[05:11] <kash> how is asking about DRM being a troll
[05:11] <ikonia_> apokryphos any chance of a lean on kash - suspected troll
[05:11] <kash> DRM is illegal here
[05:11] <ikonia_> apokryphos refuses to accept DRMis not direct rights access and keeps spwering rubbish about it being int he kernel despite two good links explaining it being posted
[05:11] <jvolkman> kash: because it's obviously just an overload of the "DRM" acronym in this case, and you won't accept that fact
[05:12] <kash> jvolkman: i'll see you in court then
[05:12] <thestriker> guys can u plz tell me where i can find help regarding anjuta for c programming
[05:12] <Alam_Ubuntu> that odd, I can compile valgrind SVN on Debian Etch but not with Ununtu Edgy...
[05:12] <ikonia_> kash - read the links or be quiet about it
[05:12] <schwachs> hey all, i have ubuntu running under vmware but my clock is way off and doesn't seem to want correct itself.  does the "keep clock sync..." function work under this situation?
[05:12] <apokryphos> ikonia_: please be polite.
[05:12] <ikonia_> apokryphos sorry - but how many times
[05:12] <kelsin> thestriker: the anjuta website? http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <crund> schwachs doesn't vmware have an option to sync guest OS with host OS?
[05:12] <crund> schwachs i thought that's what i used to do ...
[05:12] <thestriker> kelsin,  any irc chat rooms to find help quickly?
[05:13] <schwachs> lemme look crund
[05:13] <Kronuz> brb
[05:13] <kelsin> thestriker: none listed on the website, but there are help forums and discussion forums
[05:13] <schwachs> any idea where that might be crund ?
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey guys, it's really important that I get hibernate working, but for the life of me it just won't happen.  This is a post I made on my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369038
[05:14] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get hibernate running?!
[05:14] <Dimensions> Hiya guys ... i have kinda weired problem ... i have installed ubuntu dapper on my USB 4 Gig HDD ... it seemed fine after install i updated it and when i boot the machine for a while it looks fine but when i open the terminal the blinker (cursor) is a bit far from where it should be and when i type any command it says command not found, after few seconds all icons from system goes away and none of programmes work .... What should i do any 
[05:14] <zero-9376> last thing if im trying to log in (have gdm and login prompt) then enter user and pass (which are correct) then x/gdm crahes what are the logfiles i should look at to diagnose problem? this happens for all system users and doesnt change with the nvidia or open nv driver or using previous kerenel
[05:14] <crund> schwachs no sorry. Another thing might be how you set the time option when you installed ubuntu
[05:14] <TMT[fi] > Hello everybody
[05:14] <ikonia_> zero-9376 xorg.0.log and gdm.log
[05:14] <thestriker> kelsin, thanx
[05:15] <francois> Dimensions: did the install go normal ? no errors ?
[05:15] <Dimensions> francois:  no errors at all ... it was smooth ..
[05:15] <TMT[fi] > Is there a way in ubuntu to assign console commands as global gnome hotkeys?
[05:15] <francois> Dimensions: whats your system configuratino ?
[05:15] <ikonia_> ljl - thank you
[05:16] <ikonia_> TMT[fi]  no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if there was
[05:16] <Dimensions> francois:  i have plugged it to my laptop and other laptops /systems on all it happens ....(laptop 1.5 M processor with 512 mem)
[05:16] <cjvail13> ok i installed the nvidia drivers and i still can not change the screen resolution
[05:16] <ikonia_> Dimensions ubuntu is no transportable
[05:16] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what was the last thing you did
[05:16] <zero-9376> anywhere else, i looked at those but didnt seem to be much info in those, is there way to increase logging level for these?
[05:17] <TMT[fi] > ikonia_: My goal is to create global hotkeys for xmms but it could be useful in other things as well
[05:17] <xelados> Anyone know how to get MP3 playback with Rhythmbox? It says I need the mp3 plugin for Gstreamer, but nothing I've found in Synaptic relating to mp3s has worked.
[05:17] <cjvail13> after i installed the drivers i rebooted
[05:17] <Kronuz> okay, I got Beryl working again :)
[05:17] <ikonia_> zero-9376 look at the startup scripts, I'm sure you can, although X is quite verbose
[05:17] <ikonia_> cjvail13 you've not read the docs
[05:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz well done
[05:17] <Dimensions> any one has any idea why this happens ?
[05:17] <cjvail13> i did and it said that after i install that i reboot
[05:17] <cjvail13> so that is what i did
[05:17] <ikonia_> cjvail13 yes,then continue reading the docs, they don't stop there
[05:17] <francois> Dimensions: ikonia_ just told you that ubuntu isn't transportable
[05:18] <zero-9376> ikonia_: thankyou you have been very helpful
[05:18] <cjvail13> ok can you send me the link again
[05:18] <Jowi> Kronuz, the vertrefresh helped you?
[05:18] <ikonia_> zero-9376 no problem
[05:18] <ikonia_> !nvidia >cjvail13
[05:18] <ikonia_> zero-9376 if it helps the problem is not normally X in that situation, but normally gdm/gnome - check the gdm and syslogs
[05:19] <Dimensions> francois:  what does that has to do with it ? i first tried it on the system i installed and it happens on that one even ...
[05:19] <ikonia_> francois he clearly doesn't want to listen
[05:19] <francois> ikonia_: maybe he's just young, lol
[05:19] <morphinex> howdy
[05:19] <ikonia_> hello
[05:19] <Dimensions> ikonia what do u mean by transportable ?
[05:19] <morphinex> Dr_willis: still around?
[05:20] <cjvail13> ikonia: it doesnt say anything else about screen resolution
[05:20] <ikonia_> cjvail13 if I find where it is - I'm putting you on ignore
[05:20] <ComputerHermit> hello
[05:20] <ikonia_> !nvidia >ikonia_
[05:20] <francois> quick off topic question, does anyone know how to turn off the connect and disconnect spam on irssi ":?
[05:20] <cjvail13> sorry
[05:20] <cjvail13> but i dont see it
[05:21] <ComputerHermit> how do i delete files out of my root folder?
[05:21] <francois> ComputerHermit: what are you looking to delete ?
[05:21] <ComputerHermit> some logg files
[05:21] <ikonia_> cjvail13 its crytal clear
[05:21] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  yes
[05:21] <cjvail13> where
[05:21] <francois> ComputerHermit: sudo rm filesname
[05:22] <ComputerHermit>  thank you
[05:22] <francois> ComputerHermit: np
[05:22] <Dimensions> francois:  i didn't get meaning of transportable ?
[05:22] <ikonia_> Dimensions it means you can't install on one computer and use it on antoher
[05:22] <ComputerHermit> hey I was going to post it in the fourm but their is no new thread start op
[05:23] <ikonia_> ComputerHermit are you registered and logged in
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> yea
[05:23] <Flaming> hi
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> skywalker___
[05:23] <Dimensions> ikonia_ i already clarified that it happens on the system i did installation ... let alone trying on other systems ...
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> I'll look around
[05:23] <Flaming> where can I find libdvdcss2 for Edgy Eft, please?
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> hey thanks
[05:23] <francois> Dimensions: ok so doesn't matter what install you did ? X doesn't seem to work on you ?
[05:23] <zzz> Is 32 Megabytes of RAM enough for the alternate installation CD?
[05:23] <francois> Dimensions: X is your graphical display manager
[05:23] <Tonren> Anyone?  I really, REALLY need hibernate to work.
[05:23] <PriceChild> ComputerHermit, start new post forum is top left "ish" whilst you're in a subforum. You can't start a new thread from the front page
[05:23] <PriceChild> zzz, yes
[05:24] <ikonia_> Dimensions yes, but using another system as a way to backup your issue is poitnless
[05:24] <ikonia_> Flaming search the wiki for restirected formats
[05:24] <zzz> PriceChild: I tried to install but could not succeed.
[05:24] <PriceChild> !dvd | Flaming
[05:24] <ubotu> Flaming: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:24] <Flaming> ikonia_ what wiki ?
[05:24] <taigeR_`> no
[05:24] <ikonia_> Flaming https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <francois> !laptop
[05:24] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:24] <Jowi> !css > Flaming
[05:24] <PriceChild> zzz, What happenned then?
[05:24] <Dimensions> ikonia_ what is the solution is the problem with X as mentioned by francois ? or its coz of usb hd d?
[05:24] <cjvail13> is there someone out there that is not a bully that has patience to deal with a newbie help me with my screen resolution
[05:25] <ComputerHermit> thanks PriceChild
[05:25] <ikonia_> Dimensions explain exactly what happens with X
[05:25] <francois> !laptop | Dimensions
[05:25] <ubotu> Dimensions: please see above
[05:25] <ikonia_> Flaming its the wiki thats mentioned in this channel's topic
[05:25] <zzz> PriceChild: I got an error regarding the RAMDISK. I believe that was because I didn't have enough RAM.
[05:25] <Dimensions> thanks francois ...
[05:25] <apokryphos> cjvail13: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[05:25] <dcordes> !restricted-modules
[05:25] <cjvail13> thanks
[05:25] <LjL> cjvail13: if you haven't yet tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , try it first.
[05:25] <dcordes> !restricted-formats
[05:25] <dcordes> !mp3
[05:25] <LjL> !restricted
[05:25] <PriceChild> zzz, I'm not sure myself sorry
[05:25] <dcordes> thx
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <ikonia_> LjL he won't read the docs
[05:26] <cjvail13> ok what does that do
[05:26] <cjvail13> yes i will
[05:26] <Dimensions> ikonia_ after installation on usb hdd if i use Terminal ... it gives command not found for any command i give withing few seconds all icons goes away and none of the programmes run .... this doesn't happen if i dont touch the terminal ....
[05:26] <LjL> cjvail13: the docs explain what it does..
[05:26] <ikonia_> cjvail13 the link I sent you explains it
[05:26] <cjvail13> ok thanks
[05:26] <ikonia_> Dimensions your path is probably wrong
[05:26] <ikonia_> Dimensions or your filesystems arn't mounted properly
[05:27] <morphinex> hey folks, I installed a new HD in my sytstem and grub is now throwing me error 22
[05:27] <MrEgg964> Hi. I'm trying to install vmplayer from automatix. I'm stuck at the user end agreement : at the end of it there's <OK> but I can't click it to have the installation resume.
[05:27] <LjL> !automatix | MrEgg964
[05:27] <ubotu> MrEgg964: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:27] <ikonia_> !automatrix >MrEgg964
[05:27] <LjL> !vmware-player | MrEgg964
[05:27] <ubotu> mregg964: vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:27] <zzz> !automatix | MrEgg964
[05:27] <LjL> MrEgg964: since it's right there in the standard repositories ready to be installed, why in the world would you use automatix to get it?
[05:27] <ikonia_> zzz thats just been done
[05:28] <ikonia_> !goodbotuse >zzz
[05:28] <zzz> Whoops. Sorry.
[05:28] <crundy> zzz how much ram do you have?
[05:28] <francois> !goodbotuse >francois
[05:29] <zzz> crundy: 32Megabytes. I am using another machine right now.
[05:29] <crundy> zzz ah ok, that will be the problem i'd say
[05:29] <Dimensions> francois:  ... i m sure its not coz of laptop support as im using ubuntu on this laptop from last 7 months ... how do i start it without X ... i kinda dont remember from RH there was some chainloader for it ? to start in command line only without X ...
[05:29] <MrEgg964> During the installation process, the user agreement is being displayed. How can I click OK to it ?
[05:29] <zzz> crundy: That's what I am thinking too...
[05:29] <francois> Dimensions: when you come to the login screen, just click on the menu, and choose console login
[05:30] <luchi> Hi! 500@ekiga.net doesn't work. Couldn't connect with remote host
[05:30] <francois> MrEgg964: hit enter, if i'm not mistaken
[05:30] <Dimensions> francois:  i mean if i want it to boot into console directly always ... and if needed will type startx for GUI ...
[05:30] <MrEgg964> francois : no, this doesn't work. The text is within Terminal.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Dimensions,  disable the kdm or gdm sevice from running at boot time
[05:31] <francois> Dimensions: always ? i'm not sure, ask around
[05:31] <orangey> hey all!
[05:31] <ikonia_> Dimensions change the run level
[05:31] <francois> MrEgg964: during install the text is in terminal ? what ?
[05:31] <Vegeta^> When I try to acces my harddisk (where I had installed windows), through the Ubuntu CD (without installing ubuntu), I get the msg "Unable to mount the selected volume, Error: device /dev/hdc5 is not removable. Error: (...)", how do I mount this?
[05:31] <Dimensions> ikonia_:  thats what i am looking for how do i change run level ...
[05:32] <morphinex> Dr_willis: I tried to make the changes in grub, and now I can't boot at all ;)
[05:32] <MrEgg964> The terminal windows bears the name starting like this : DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog sudo apt-get...
[05:32] <ikonia_> Dimensions inittab
[05:33] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  thats why you test with altering the grub command line from the grub menu first.
[05:33] <jdr_> hey
[05:33] <Dimensions> thanks ikonia_ , francois and Dr_willis
[05:33] <jdr_> how can I mount a external HD( icybox) as a normal user?
[05:33] <ikonia_> jdr_ use sudo
[05:33] <morphinex> Well, I think that I made a typo which caused the problem ;)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> jdr_,  what filesystem is it?
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_only root can use mount
[05:34] <jdr_> ikonia_: havn't got sudo ont his pc
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_ are you using ubuntu ?
[05:34] <jdr_> yes
[05:34] <francois> !sudo | jdr_
[05:34] <ubotu> jdr_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_ then you ahve sudo
[05:34] <Vegeta^> I found on a website that I can try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/<created folder name> -o nls=utf8,umask=0222df -h" but this holds for hdc1, I tried it for hdc5 it didn't work, why?
[05:35] <ikonia_> Vegeta^ do you have a hadc5 ?
[05:35] <nickweb> hey folks, i seem to have lost my "Shutdown Button". When I hit the power button in the right hand corner, all I can select is Hibernate. Any ideas?
[05:35] <ikonia_> Vegeta^ is hdc5 ntfs
[05:35] <Vegeta^> ikonia: yes
[05:35] <jdr_> ikonia_: I can't become root, as Im not in sudoers, nor do I have a root pass, this is a public pc
[05:35] <ikonia_> nickweb thats normally a theme problem, I'm struggling with it too
[05:35] <nickweb> ahhh no
[05:35] <ikonia_> jdr_ screwed
[05:35] <nickweb> its just as soon as I installed beryl aswell
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, after hours of trying last night :(
[05:36] <franfemore> jhasgbg
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb there is a thread on the forum that can sometimes fix it
[05:36] <jdr_> ikonia_: you mean this simply isn't possible under ubuntu?
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb I gues it depends on the exact fault
[05:36] <LjL> franfemore: hello
[05:36] <ikonia_> jdr_ only root can use mount
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, I dont supose you have a link, or the post heading to search?
[05:36] <morphinex> when i change menu.lst do I need to run update-grub?
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb sorry dude, search time
[05:36] <ikonia_> morphinex no
[05:36] <ikonia_> morphinex its dynamic
[05:36] <kelsin> jdr_: is this like a external usb driver or something?
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, np - Thank youthough!
[05:36] <francois> jdr_: unless the system is set to automount, you can't do it, only root users who can use sudo
[05:37] <franfemore> what your name
[05:37] <morphinex> ikonia_: ok, thanks
[05:37] <Jowi> jdr_, if you are using nautilus or thunar you might still be able to see if the disk are mounted automatically. gnome has that ability and thunar as well. if not, no sulution is avaiable.
[05:37] <kelsin> jdr_: yeah like francois said, if they didn't setup the system to just automount those types of devices, it can't be done
[05:38] <kelsin> jdr_: (by default, you just plug in the harddisk and it appears fine, at least in my ubuntu installation with all usb keys and harddisks I have)
[05:38] <blimpdude> anyone know if ubuntu supports intel 3945ABG wireless out of the box like the ipw2200?
[05:39] <metalhedd> Hi! I have ubuntu on my laptop and it runs fantastic when it boots, but 3 out of 4 times it hangs at the progress-bar
[05:39] <MrEgg964> I'm trying to install vmware player, but I can't get past the user agreement. Please help :)
[05:39] <metalhedd> how can I findout whats going on.
[05:39] <sivik> has anyone been having any problems with firefox crashing lately
[05:39] <kelsin> MrEgg964: if you're using automatix we can't help you
[05:39] <MrEgg964> ok, I won't then. Thanks.
[05:39] <powerdemon> i installed Ubuntu, i can connect to my router but cant connect to the internet, any ideas wots wrong??
[05:39] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  disable the splash screen, and perhaps the framebuffer in the kernel entry. (nofb, nosplash) that shouldkill off the splash screen totally.
[05:39] <LjL> MrEgg964, is it a text-mode dialog or a GNOME dialog or a KDE dialog that shows the agreement?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  it maybe its 'scanning' the drives or somthing.
[05:40] <crundy> powerdemon have you set your router as the default gateway?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  you are NOT refering to the gdm/gnome loading progress bar - after you enter your password rigth?
[05:40] <LjL> MrEgg964: Tab followed by Enter, or just Enter, will do the trick in some cases, but not in all. Adept for instance is known to have a problem with debconf dialogs.
[05:40] <powerdemon> how do i do that?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  also you may be ble to hit 'escape'or 'f1' of 'f2' to clear off the splash screen
[05:40] <nickweb> is the ubuntu forums down?
[05:40] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: This time when I tried to boot it, it sat for a while and then the splash went away, now it shows "checking FIle system...s fsck 1.39 [ok] 
[05:41] <metalhedd> but its just sitting there
[05:41] <kelsin> LjL: he originally said he was using automatix, which of course is not supported in this channel
[05:41] <nfusco> im trying to compile an app from source and I get a configure error: Can't build without QT - Can anyone assist with this, I have search the repos for such a package and dont seem to be able to find it, thanks
[05:41] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: no i'm talking about the boot spash
[05:41] <LjL> nickweb: it appears to be
[05:41] <LjL> !compile > nfusco    (nfusco, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:41] <nickweb> ah bugger. everythings against me today. lol
[05:41] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  my example kerne line -->   kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet nosplash
[05:41] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  you could edit the grub boot line as a test..  and change it for one time testing
[05:42] <LjL> kelsin: doesn't mean we'm not even supposed to try to help him... sure, it makes things harder.
[05:42] <a> Who looked NGE? Evangelion
[05:42] <Hattori> hello, i used gparted to cloine an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:42] <nickweb> okies - can I hassell you guys with another question - about wireless? Everytime I boot up, I have to go to network manager, click preferences for my wireless connectin, re-select my already selected wireless network, then ok twice to bring it up. Any ideas on how to make this permannnt? :)
[05:42] <crundy> powerdemon well, assuming you know the router's ip, get a terminal up and type "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254" replace the ip with your router ip
[05:42] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: ok its trying to boot.
[05:42] <uglybetty> hi
[05:42] <metalhedd> Soft Lockup detected on CPU#0
[05:43] <nfusco> LjL, Valkyrie, frontend for valgrind, cant find in the repos....hence why im building from source
[05:43] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  ewww.....
[05:43] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: no kiddin'
[05:43] <crundy> powerdemon so you can ping your router?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  but now ya knave a strting point.
[05:43] <LjL> nfusco: yeah... but the page i gave you has information as to which package you should install for building Qt/KDE apps (as well as building stuff in general, but you should already be past that)
[05:43] <cjvail13> i am back and would like to thank everyone for their help and patience except for ikonia who was rude.  but thanks to everyone again my screen resolution is fixed
[05:43] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, alleyoop?
[05:43] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: lots of bug reports with that error
[05:44] <uglybetty> I am just about to install ubuntu on my old pc will I have to delete the files on the drive I want to install it on first
[05:44] <LjL> kelsin: thank you for the factoid, but i know what it says, because i wrote it.
[05:44] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, Valkyrie
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: just install
[05:44] <Dr_willis> uglybetty,  files? linux wants to install to its own partition.
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: you'll loose everything
[05:44] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, they'll all be gone when you're done, but you don't need to first
[05:44] <Hattori> i used gparted to cloine an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:44] <uglybetty> I dont need them there all on my other pc now
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: then just install
[05:44] <Moniker42> hey, how do i reinstall gdm from recovery?
[05:45] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, then just go for it
[05:45] <uglybetty> ok thanks
[05:45] <Moniker42> *from the recovery console
[05:45] <francois> Moniker42: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <Moniker42> francois it's already installed
[05:45] <dyrne> Moniker42: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  if you just need to configure it to default settings
[05:45] <Moniker42> k
[05:45] <francois> Moniker42: or just gdm, if thats the only packages you need
[05:46] <crundy> powerdemon well, how did you go?
[05:46] <Moniker42> thnanks that's probably enough - i've managed to configure it to be incompatible with my monitor somehow
[05:46] <crundy> badly, I guess lol
[05:47] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: the fix seems to be disabling the wireless module. i dont have a prolem with doing that, but I can't get in to disable it! can i tell it not to load that module at the kernel command line?
[05:47] <Moniker42> okay i almost have a working interface for my old desktop for use in school ;)
[05:47] <uglybetty> is there away to install ubuntu than cd rom cant be bothered swapping my dvd rom drive back to my old machine
[05:47] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: Never mind... Turning off the killswitch let it boot.
[05:47] <Moniker42> can't wait to sit in computing and play doom 3...
[05:47] <a> Where the biggest chat in the world? Where the set of people!  Plzz tell me
[05:47] <Moniker42> rotate my beryl cube and look cool =)
[05:48] <Hattori> hi, i used gparted to clone an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:48] <Moniker42> "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[05:48] <Moniker42> "
[05:48] <kelsin> Hattori: is the bios recognizing that "new" cloned drive
[05:48] <Hattori> ya
[05:49] <Hattori> as primary master
[05:49] <Moniker42> dyrne, francois any idea what that error means/
[05:49] <francois> Moniker42: no, sry, i don't use gdm,
[05:49] <morphinex> ah, still the same grub error, 22
[05:49] <francois> Moniker42: what did you do to get that error ?
[05:49] <kelsin> Hattori: I don't have any experience with gparted for cloning, but gparted copies the MBR from the old drive as well when it clones?
[05:49] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, you have windows on the old machine?
[05:50] <kelsin> Hattori: and have you loaded it back into gparted and make sure that the partitions that should be are marked as bootable?
[05:50] <gbellmann> hi everyone, how can i uninstall a package?
[05:50] <francois> gbellmann: sudo apt-get remove name
[05:50] <uglybetty> I have nothing on it apart from 100gig of files and stuff
[05:50] <Hattori> kelsin: hmm no i didn't check if they're marked as bootable.. let me see if there is an option for that
[05:50] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  I am pulling my hair out trying to get this wireless working
[05:50] <kelsin> gbellmann: in synaptic you can right click on the package and select to remove it
[05:51] <GoldeNArX> I cant seem to get the 80211 part installed.  anyone have input
[05:51] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, can you boot from a USB Stick?
[05:51] <kelsin> Hattori: it's a per-partition setting, I'm no expert on what it means, and it shoudl have cloned that stuff, past checking those things I won't be of any help, good luck
[05:51] <uglybetty> no bios does not allow plus I dont have any usb sticks
[05:51] <gbellmann> now, how can i kill X, i need to install nvidia drivers
[05:52] <omegacenti> I think the resolution faq in the faq above is a little dated, as it did not autodetect what type of monitor it was.. any better guides on resolution?
[05:52] <dyrne> Moniker42: just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from shell
[05:52] <omegacenti> I need a reosl.ution change in other words, as my resolution was detected incorrectly
[05:52] <francois> gbellmann: use alt+f1, and then do sudo /ect/init.d/kdm stop
[05:52] <carlosqueso> uglybetty so how are you booting old machine
[05:52] <francois> gbellmann: if you use kdm
[05:52] <gbellmann> francois: thanks
[05:52] <GoldeNArX> anyone actually get wireless working in ubuntu?
[05:52] <uglybetty> boot it from a hard drive
[05:53] <carlosqueso> uglybetty what os on HD
[05:53] <carlosqueso> OS
[05:53] <uglybetty> none
[05:53] <carlosqueso> no windows, what do you boot into then
[05:53] <dyrne> GoldeNArX: on all my PCs. wireless if you get a decent card is pretty easy these days not problems in ubuntu slack or freebsd
[05:53] <busfahrer> I am a bit confused. I installed another videocard on my board (and switched BIOS from AGP to PCI for primary video output), got it to work. Now my SOUND doesn't work anymore. It plays back fine, but I can't hear anything. I turned up all the volume controls I could find. Any ideas?
[05:53] <uglybetty> nothing
[05:54] <carlosqueso> do you have floppy drive on comp?
[05:54] <uglybetty> yes
[05:54] <carlosqueso> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[05:54] <carlosqueso> that may help
[05:54] <Orfeous> got some problems with FGLX or what it calls.. hardware acceleration.. here is my Xorg.0.org-file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8948/
[05:54] <carlosqueso> looks like a pain, but who knows
[05:55] <paolino> Installing 6.06 means installing 3  years old packages ?
[05:55] <uglybetty> I will just swap my dvd rom drive back as my new one does not have a floppy so I would have to switch them between machines too
[05:55] <carlosqueso> sounds like a plan
[05:55] <omegacenti> I need a resolution change in other words, as my resolution was detected incorrectly. Anyone have better info than the faw above?
[05:55] <Pollywog> how do I change menus in gnome?  I mean like adding an app
[05:55] <carlosqueso> sorry couldn't find better way for you
[05:55] <Hattori> kelsin: i changed it to "boot" and now pc says: missing operating system
[05:55] <uglybetty> thank you
[05:56] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, does Valkrite need libqt4-dev or libqt3-dev?
[05:56] <GigaClon> Pollywog, right click Apllications
[05:56] <uglybetty> how will I install my motherboards drivers once I have installed
[05:56] <Pollywog> ty
[05:56] <Pollywog> ahhh yes I see it thanks
[05:56] <kelsin> it definiately sounds like it's missing a solid MBR, does cloning copy that? Might need to reinstall grub on the drive's mbr, I don't know anything about copying the mbr, or reinstalling grub though
[05:56] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, you shouldn't need to install anything else, most should just work
[05:56] <poogle> why would startx fail on "client 1 rejected from local host"? how is this fixed?
[05:57] <kelsin> !grub > Hattori
[05:57] <uglybetty> what even graphics card and sound
[05:57] <kelsin> Hattori: you can probably follow those instructions to restore grub on the new drive if that might be the case
[05:57] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, it'll probably use a generic graphics driver, but yes, sound should work unless you've got some really weird hardware
[05:58] <carlosqueso> the only difficult stuff is wireless and some modems
[05:58] <uglybetty> My sound does not work on windows untill I install the required drivers
[05:59] <carlosqueso> yup, but linux isn't like that
[05:59] <uglybetty> ok thank you for your help
[05:59] <bullgard1> What is the meaning of 'belocs' in the DEB program package 'belocs-locales-bin? Synaptics writes: "This package provides the executables needed to compile locale data
[05:59] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, Yeh, I have installe libqt4, still complainin, cant build without QT..
[05:59] <bullgard1> files.  Source files come from GNU libc, but are slightly improved
[05:59] <paolino> where I can see the package list of 6.06 ?
[05:59] <carlosqueso> no problem, good luck with the install
[05:59] <kelsin> uglybetty: yeah I haven't had a sound card in YEARS that linux hasn't recognized
[05:59] <kelsin> nfusco: did you install libqt4-dev?
[05:59] <uglybetty> thanks ill bbl
[05:59] <bullgard1> to allow changes in language and territory definitions at run-time."
[05:59] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, it wants QT version 3, not 4
[05:59] <jannu1> hi, can i upgrade ntfs-3g older version to stable 1.0 without changes or do i need delete some drivers or what?
[06:00] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, try installing qt3-dev-tools
[06:01] <kelsin> !sound | SirDucer
[06:01] <ubotu> SirDucer: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:01] <dcordes> !legends
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about legends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <dcordes> in which repo is legends?
[06:01] <gbellmann> how can i install libc
[06:02] <LjL> dcordes: none?
[06:02] <LjL> gbellmann: it is installed already.
[06:02] <kelsin> dcordes: packages.ubuntu.com has no record for legends in edgy at least
[06:02] <omegacenti> !resolution
[06:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:02] <SirDucer> I've had a look at those pages and I am totally clueless :( I've only had ubuntu installed for about 3 hours now
[06:02] <LjL> gbellmann: it's the standard C library, so it would be very suprising if your system ran without it being installed.
[06:02] <frankzhao> how to install a rpm file in ubuntu? thanks
[06:03] <gbellmann> LjL: nvidia driver installer says i don't have it installed
[06:03] <carlosqueso> !rpm
[06:03] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:03] <carlosqueso> !alien
[06:03] <kitche> gbellmann: you have to install build-essential
[06:03] <jannu1> hi, can i upgrade ntfs-3g older version to stable 1.0 without changes or do i need delete some drivers or what?
[06:03] <kelsin> SirDucer: did it fail when you tryed to change device like it says in the bot factoid?
[06:03] <LjL> gbellmann: nvidia driver installer is wrong, or it's saying something else than what you think it's saying. why don't you use the packaged nvidia drivers instead, anyway?
[06:03] <LjL> !nvidia > gbellmann    (gbellmann, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:04] <SirDucer> Kelsin: I don't know to be honest nothing appeared to happen
[06:04] <frankzhao> hello carlosqueso, can you teach me in detail ? i am installing j2re-1.4.2-linux.rpm?
[06:04] <carlosqueso> frankzhao, you shouldn't need to do that.  It's in the repos
[06:05] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Got problem choosing installer. i will run lamp on this computer but will also use it as a desktop... so wich installer should i choose then? :S
[06:05] <kelsin> Double click the volume applet in the top bar, then click on File, then Change Device and select one of the alsa mixer ones, and make sure nothing it muted and volumes are at ok levels, if you get an error message or don't have any devies in Change Devices, let us know
[06:05] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: it doesn't really matter, you can always install packages later.
[06:05] <LjL> !lamp > ITS_FOR_REAL    (ITS_FOR_REAL, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:06] <SirDucer> Kelsin: I've tried all of those listed in the applet and still nothing
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> sorry guys battery dide
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> *died
[06:06] <frankzhao> carlos, i am lost, sorry, what is repos?
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> anyone here ever get wireless working in ubuntu?
[06:06] <carlosqueso> java
[06:06] <kitche> !repos | frankzhao
[06:06] <ubotu> frankzhao: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:07] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah sure i know that... just curious what i will miss fresh out of the box in both cases ;)
[06:07] <bigjohnto> anyone know if you can force windows to authenticate via NIS?
[06:07] <dcordes> Playing MPEG stream from 05. Qu'est ce qu'on attend.mp3 ...
[06:07] <kelsin> SirDucer: sorry to ask another stupid question, but is Master and PCM both un muted and not set to 0 in the gnome volume control window that pops up when you double click the volume applet in the bar?
[06:07] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, thanks got it
[06:07] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, have they cut down on media progs in server version? etc
[06:07] <Moniker42> i'm trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i get "E: package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate"
[06:08] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, do they both got simliar x?
[06:08] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, if you use the desktop CD, you will have the ubuntu-desktop package installed. same if you use alternate/minimal and install the desktop version. otherwise, you'll only have ubuntu-standard and/or ubuntu-minimal installed.
[06:08] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, the server version comes with no X at all.
[06:08] <busfahrer> I am a bit confused. I installed another videocard on my board (and switched BIOS from AGP to PCI for primary video output), got it to work. Now my SOUND doesn't work anymore. It plays back fine, but I can't hear anything. I turned up all the volume controls I could find. Any ideas?
[06:08] <SirDucer> Kelsin: no they are not, I have un-muted every control there and still nothing
[06:08] <LjL> !server
[06:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:08] <carlosqueso> frankzaho, try typing sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:09] <kelsin> SirDucer: is your sound card listed under "Change Device" in the file menu of the volume control?
[06:09] <metalhedd> I seem to have lost my log out options. when i select quit from the system menu, it goes immediately to gdm. i used to get all kinds of options for hibernate, suspend, log out, switch user etc... what happened? :P
[06:09] <bigjohnto> i guess no ideas?
[06:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, thats the answer i was looking for....  need x to go with.. or it will help anyway! thx alot
[06:09] <SirDucer> Kelsin: if the list on the "ASLA" site is correct then yes ca0106
[06:10] <kelsin> SirDucer: ok open the terminal and run two commands "sudo lsmod" and "sudo lspci" and then pastebin the results?
[06:10] <kelsin> !pastebin > SirDucer
[06:10] <SirDucer> I have the Creative Labs Live! 24bit internal sound card
[06:10] <LNX1> hi !
[06:10] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, but it does by no means mean that you can't install X later... it's a matter of doing "sudo apt-get install thedesktopyouwant", really. if you're unsure, use the minimal CD, that's only an 8 megs download, and it'll get the rest (whatever you tell it to get) off the net
[06:10] <LNX1> Someone known how in Ubuntu my multimdia are set ?
[06:11] <LNX1> multimedia key
[06:11] <metalhedd> LNX1: Mine just worked.
[06:11] <LNX1> already working, I just wnat to known how
[06:11] <metalhedd> No idea.
[06:11] <metalhedd> lol
[06:11] <LjL> !shortcuts > LNX1    (LNX1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:11] <metalhedd> magic as far as i can tell
[06:11] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah sure i "know" but i got answer what i was looking for! thx alot
[06:12] <bigjohnto> honestly does anyone know how to authenticate windows users via NIS or not?
[06:12] <SirDucer> kelsin: stupid question alert! how do I use pastebin? lol
[06:12] <LNX1> mioki
[06:12] <francois> bigjohnto: patience
[06:12] <LNX1> ok
[06:12] <enyc> Hrrm... How should I mount a smb share to a path so it can be accessed under wine somewhere in the directory tree?
[06:12] <francois> SirDucer: go to www.pastebin.com, its so that you don't flood the chanel
[06:12] <kelsin> SirDucer: you should have gotten a private message from ubotu with information
[06:12] <enyc> (i.e. I want to map a remote drive to a local dir)
[06:12] <kelsin> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <uglybetty> Does the audio lead that connects to the back of a cd/dvd rom drive and the motherboard need to be plugged in
[06:13] <owner> i read the apachemysqlphp guide but i am still not sure what to change in apache2.conf
[06:13] <berent> !puppy
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puppy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <berent> !iso
[06:14] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:14] <uglybetty> I just need to swap my dvd rom drive back to my old machine so I can install ubuntu on it
[06:14] <Lunar_Lamp> uglybetty: for the computer to work? No.
[06:14] <KoolShen> are there any good icq and msn clients for the terminal?
[06:14] <omegacenti> Sweet, resolution now fixed! 915resolution fix worked.
[06:14] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, as long as you aren't planning on listening to music, no
[06:14] <uglybetty> will my dvd rom drive still work without it
[06:14] <Lunar_Lamp> uglybetty: that cable is used in some older systems for sound.
[06:14] <kitche> KoolShen: just use bitlbee it's an irc gateway to im services
[06:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, since i will use it as a desktop with irc msn xmms etc etc it will prob be easier and faster to go with desktop. then install lamp. thats what i did last i tried and it worked out nice. just wondered if it was any huge bennefit going for server version instead but it doesnt sound so for me
[06:14] <kelsin> KoolShen: the newest verison of gaim comes with "gaim-text" I don't particularly like it, but that works for everything gaim does
[06:15] <KoolShen> kitche: sounds good. i'll take a look at iot
[06:15] <uglybetty> yes thats what I thought thanks
[06:15] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: the server version comes with a tweaked kernel, that's all. but then if you're going to do desktop stuff, you don't want the tweaked kernel.
[06:15] <uglybetty> right I will go try now thanks again
[06:15] <KoolShen> kelsin: ah i noticed the update message on gaim startup. it is not yet included in the repos, right?
[06:15] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah great
[06:15] <omegacenti> Can you play DIablo II in Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:15] <carlosqueso> np
[06:15] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: and note that when i say "server version" i don't mean the "server" option in the alternate or minimal CDs, because they're two different things
[06:15] <kitche> omegacenti: though cedega/wine you probably can
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> hehe yeah!!
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, im stupid... but not that...
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> :D
[06:16] <Hattori> kelsin: thanks man. it fixed it
[06:16] <Chetwin> I'm working on a G4 iMac in live mode trying to back up some of the hard drive contents.  Can someone please assist me?
[06:16] <kelsin> Hattori: np, glad to hear it
[06:16] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: it never seemed very obvious to me that there was a difference.
[06:17] <metalhedd> I seem to have lost my log out options. when i select quit from the system menu, it goes immediately to gdm. i used to get all kinds of options for hibernate, suspend, log out, switch user etc..
[06:17] <Chetwin> I want to know if I can burn a CD in live mode?
[06:18] <SirDucer> kelsin: lsmod results = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8951/    and lspci results = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8952/
[06:18] <highneko> In blender how can someone pan around a window without moving the object?
[06:18] <berent> i have downloaded puppy linux
[06:18] <jannu1> where i can see what version of ntfs-3g im using?
[06:18] <berent> how to mount it
[06:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, hehe yeah ok. whats obvious to one... might not be obvious to another so its always good to tell it all ;)
[06:18] <Chetwin> Can someone please assist me with a MAC
[06:18] <Chetwin> I need extensive help, not just one question
[06:19] <MrEgg964> Where can I get info on locale ? More specifically, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive that contains file names with letters like    etc.
[06:19] <Chetwin> Anyone with exp would be helpful
[06:19] <Pollywog> I have some apps that do not appear in the Applications menu but I am unable to add them
[06:19] <Pollywog> Gnome has changed
[06:19] <eck> Pollywog: use alacarte
[06:19] <Pollywog> eck: ty
[06:20] <GoldeNArX> anyone here ever get wireless working in ubuntu?
[06:20] <berent> how to mount puppy linux
[06:20] <carlosqueso> GoldeNArX, what wireless card
[06:20] <eck> berent: what exactly are you trying to mount?
[06:20] <Pollywog> GoldeNArX: yeah but it wasn't easy I have rt2500
[06:20] <X_Force> anyone here who knows if the linux kernel support these "transactional file operations" like in Win Vista ?
[06:20] <berent> i am trying to mount iso image eck
[06:20] <LjL> !mountiso > berent    (berent, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:20] <eck> !iso > berent
[06:21] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  ive heard that vista did some changes to ntfs that 'breaks' the linux ntfs support. :()
[06:21] <eck> X_Force: that is a filesystem concept, not a kernel concept
[06:21] <finalbeta> X_Force: doesn't every journaled file system do that.
[06:21] <eck> X_Force: i guess it depends what FS you use
[06:21] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  but not sure how accurate that info is.
[06:21] <Pollywog> I got my card working in Linspire and Freespire without any problem but in kubuntu it was tough
[06:21] <GoldeNArX> Pollywog : I have intel 3945abg I am really just strugeling installing the 80211 subsystem.  freaking thing is making me mad
[06:21] <MarkCh> how do i make kde apps look native in gnome?
[06:21] <berent> eck LjL :I did it into a already data existing  mount point and all data there had vanished and some vmlinuz has come
[06:21] <Moniker42-deskto> hey, i've got a problem with graphics my monitor's saying "cannot display this mode" rather than displaying gdm
[06:21] <berent> eck LjL : Now how to boot it
[06:21] <X_Force> ok .. then a filesystem thing .. is ext3 able to do?
[06:21] <Pollywog> GoldeNArX: do drivers exist in Linux for your card?
[06:22] <GoldeNArX> Pollywog : no "in" linux but they do exist
[06:22] <X_Force> no its .. a bit more that the jornaling .
[06:22] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:22] <Pollywog> oh then you need ndiswrapper I think.  I did not need to use it.
[06:22] <X_Force> you as programmer are able to start a transaction .. for example mit begintransaction() ..
[06:22] <LjL> berent: eh?! boot an ISO?
[06:22] <kelsin> SirDucer: in a terminal have you run "sudo alsaconf", if not you can definitely try it, it might clear some config issues that the ubuntu installer created by accident
[06:22] <Pollywog> there are howtos on the forums for that situation
[06:22] <GoldeNArX> ndiswrapper eh?
[06:22] <berent> yes LjL : cant we boot it
[06:22] <X_Force> and if there is an error .. for example .. the user presses cancel .
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> the forums are down right now I beleive
[06:23] <X_Force> you can do a rollback ..
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> lol just when I need to use them (of course)
[06:23] <LjL> berent: 1) of course, if you mount something somewhere, you'll see what you've mounted, not what was at the mountpoint previously, seems quite natural
[06:23] <eck> X_Force: afaik there is not even an api to do filesystem level writes in userspace
[06:23] <carlosqueso> naw...forums back up (partially
[06:23] <eck> you just have to use read() and write() :-)
[06:23] <finalbeta> X_Force: that wont be a kernel feature.
[06:23] <LjL> berent: 2) how in the world are you going to boot from a *file*?
[06:23] <LjL> berent: burn it to a CD, then boot.
[06:23] <X_Force> finalbeta: why not ? is a nice feature
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> just back online now actually
[06:23] <finalbeta> X_Force: please give us your source, you are making little sense.
[06:23] <papp1> 
[06:24] <papp1> hello
[06:24] <SirDucer> Kelsin: it says "sudo alsaconf: command not found
[06:24] <Pollywog> Ah yes alacarte is just what I needed  :)
[06:24] <tipsy> Anydoby available to help with my USB headset - Soundblaster Live sound card issue?
[06:24] <papp1> can semone help me with a problem?
[06:24] <LjL> !helpme
[06:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:24] <papp1> someone
[06:24] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:24] <tipsy> ymy question's kinda long, but here goes:
[06:24] <berent> LjL: Ok ok but since i have a vmlinuz and initrd.gz at the mount point cant i copy it to my boot sector and give  a grub entry
[06:25] <carlosqueso> papp1, ask away and we'll see
[06:25] <X_Force> ok . here ius the link :http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.transactions(vs.80).aspx
[06:25] <X_Force> (its the the new Namespace in c#
[06:25] <papp1> does anyone know if there support for a HP ScanJet 4p scanner?
[06:25] <jannu1> where i can see what version of ntfs-3g im using?
[06:26] <finalbeta> X_Force: that's a language thing. Depends on the programming language.
[06:26] <finalbeta> It's .NET...
[06:26] <tipsy> After installing Ubuntu my onboard soundcard was recongnized as was my Plantronics USB headset, but my soundblaster wasn't.  I went to Alsa-project.org and installled the emu10k1 module to get the Soundblaster working, but now my USB headset isn't recognized as a sound device
[06:26] <kelsin> SirDucer: "sudo aptitude install alsa-utils" first then try "sudo alsaconf"
[06:26] <X_Force> but the OS must support ...
[06:26] <X_Force> and its allso accessable throug winapu .
[06:26] <X_Force> *winapi .
[06:26] <tipsy> The USB headset is listed in lsusb though
[06:26] <X_Force> therefor it must be kernel suportet thing ..
[06:27] <carlosqueso> jannu1: if you installed through apt, synaptic or checkinstall you can use apt-cache show ntfs-3g
[06:27] <finalbeta> X_Force: and it's probably only on Databases, are you sure it's even for file system access?
[06:27] <LjL> berent: err... the thing that resides in the boot sector *is* GRUB. and you don't want to overwrite GRUB, trust me. and no, you can't make a GRUB entry for that kernel, because it's not on a real filesystem, but just inside an ISO. if you want to copy the whole thing to the real filesystem, you can, and then you can also make a GRUB entry... but that will only boot the Puppy-provided *kernel*, it won't boot Puppy itself.
[06:27] <carlosqueso> or try ntfs3g (or whatever the command to start it is) -v
[06:27] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:27] <SirDucer> kelsin: still says "sudo aslaconf: command not found"
[06:27] <eck> X_Force: I think you need to check the API of the programming language you intend to use, this is something that could be abstracted at a higher level even if it is not in the kernel
[06:27] <tipsy> How can i get the USB headset to work with the Soundblaster card?
[06:27] <jannu1> carlosqueso i instelled from sources, first i removed old version from synaptic then installed from sources
[06:27] <LjL> berent: look, if you just want to try out Puppy without wasting a CD, just use an emulator.
[06:28] <frankzhao> what is the short cut for going to desktop?
[06:28] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:28] <Juhaz> frankzhao, ctrl+alt+d
[06:28] <jannu1> ctrl+alt +d
[06:28] <frankzhao> thanks a lot,it worked
[06:28] <kelsin> SirDucer: did it look like the alsa-utils package installed fine?
[06:28] <jannu1> or install xbindkeys and bind own shortcut
[06:28] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:29] <kelsin> SirDucer: you can try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" if so
[06:29] <X_Force> here it says :Windows Vista is the first general purpose consumer-grade OS that provides transactional support (ACID) for file IO and Windows Registry modification operations
[06:29] <RustyJames> !iso > me
[06:29] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:29] <SirDucer> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[06:29] <SirDucer> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:29] <SirDucer> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[06:29] <SirDucer> eeek
[06:29] <SirDucer> sorry
[06:29] <kelsin> SirDucer: it might already be installed
[06:29] <berent> LjL : is iso a different filesystem than ext3
[06:29] <X_Force> but i dont care where it is implements .. i just want to know if it is possible under linux ..
[06:29] <kats_> Question: Has anyone tried to get Acronis True Image Startup Recovery before grub?  ^^
[06:29] <finalbeta> X_Force:  k nice, Linux doesn't support it.
[06:29] <X_Force> (ext3)
[06:29] <eck> X_Force: are you trying to develop with this feature?
[06:30] <LjL> berent, ISO is not a filesystem. ISO is simply a format that you can dump CD to, for making images of them. but yes, CDs normally use other filesystems than ext3 (UDF or ISO9660, usually, IIRC)
[06:30] <kelsin> SirDucer: "sudo dpkg -l | grep alsa-utils" that will return one line if it is installed, try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" as well
[06:30] <X_Force> it would be a good feature because it makes the data consitent .
[06:30] <LjL> berent: GRUB doesn't have the slightest idea how to read inside an ISO file in any case.
[06:30] <finalbeta> In linux you would be using a temp version of the file, but I don't know how Vista implements it, it might be much slower to use the temp file.
[06:30] <eck> X_Force: journalling will ensure that the data is consistent
[06:30] <X_Force> if someone want the msdn link:
[06:30] <X_Force> http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=287192
[06:30] <X_Force> ok .. but jornalin is a filesysetm level n .
[06:31] <Chetwin> What can I use to repair an HFS volume
[06:31] <X_Force> not a thelogic level of your application .
[06:31] <eck> X_Force: this is just an API that makes doing high level FS operations more simple, it doesn't provie any new features over a journalling FS
[06:31] <X_Force> yeah i know .. but is there also a similar thing in linux ?
[06:31] <eck> X_Force: no
[06:32] <eck> X_Force: maybe in mono this is implement, i'm not sure
[06:32] <berent> LjL: ok but if i have to burn it why should i mount it
[06:32] <LjL> berent: indeed, why? i only told you how to mount it because you *asked* how to mount it.
[06:32] <kelsin> SirDucer: I have to run and catch a bus, really sorry, keep those urls for pastebin in case someone else wants to look at them. It does sound like your drivers are installed fine, I frankly confused that it's not working. obviously double check all volumes and headphone jacks and your speakers etc, good luck
[06:32] <noobian> hi all
[06:32] <GoldeNArX> well I just cannot get this to work. FARG!
[06:32] <fbc> I did the alternate install CD and I remember is asking me for the user password, but never a username. What is the defautl username with the alternate installation cd?
[06:32] <X_Force> dont think so .. because someone must check for uncompletet files at system startuptime .
[06:33] <berent> LjL :i mean whats the  use of mounting when we cant use them
[06:33] <SirDucer> kelsin: the sudo dpkg came up with "ii  alsa-utils                                 1.0.11-6ubuntu2                      ALSA utilities"
[06:33] <noobian> how can i reverse this? /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/eventn
[06:33] <kitche> fbc: whatever you put in it's usually before it asks you for a password where it asks you for a username
[06:33] <tipsy> How can i set up my USB headset with a Soundblaster Live sound card?
[06:33] <eck> X_Force: you clearly don't understand what the msdn docs describe, it doesn't have to do with FS consistency
[06:33] <LjL> berent: ....?  excuse me, do you think that the *only* use of CD-ROMs is to boot from them?
[06:33] <eck> that is a journalling thing
[06:33] <X_Force> here is a code snipe :http://community.bartdesmet.net/blogs/bart/archive/2006/11/05/Windows-Vista-_2D00_-Introducing-TxF-in-C_2300_-_2800_part-1_2900_-_2D00_-Transacted-file-delete.aspx
[06:33] <carlosqueso> SirDucer: just a thought...have you recompiled your kernel with *only* the drivers for your sound card compiled directly in (as in answer Y rather than N)
[06:33] <X_Force> => this link shows ..
[06:33] <carlosqueso> worked for me
[06:33] <kelsin> SirDucer: yeah try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" then, I'll be on later tonight again"
[06:33] <berent> LjL :No
[06:33] <LjL> berent: mounting an ISO gives you access to all the files that are contained in it, without first burning it to a CD. that seems an useful enough thing to be able to do, to me.
[06:33] <fbc> kitchie: So how do I find out what that was?
[06:34] <kelsin> carlosqueso: he's a brand new linux user that JUST installed ubuntu P:)
[06:34] <X_Force> i do know that this is no FS thing. .
[06:34] <eck> X_Force: it is just an api, it is not a novel feature provided by the windows kernel
[06:34] <SirDucer> kelsin: but the sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf can up with command not found
[06:34] <kitche> fbc: umm mount the drive and look at your /etc/passwd file and see if there is soemthing in there that you remember
[06:34] <Dr_willis> berent,  i mount .iso files all the time... very handy.
[06:34] <X_Force> but the question is if there will be a similar api for linux ..
[06:34] <fbc> kitche: thanx, will do...
[06:34] <noobian> how can i reverse this? /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/eventn
[06:35] <eck> X_Force: there is no such API for C
[06:35] <X_Force> eck: ok that was the thing i wanted to hear ..
[06:35] <ralth> Hello everyone!  Question:  what file do I need to change to have 915resolution start at boot?
[06:35] <eck> there's no reason it couldn't be implemented in C though
[06:35] <morphinex> hey folks, more grub problems
[06:35] <eck> so a higher level language could implement this feature if the devs were interested
[06:36] <eck> you would have to check the API of the programming language you want to use
[06:36] <tipsy> How can i get a USB headset working with an emu10k1 module?
[06:36] <JuJuBee> Hello.  What preference file is the desktop picture selection saved in?
[06:36] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : when we can see and get all the things contained in iso why do we need external storage to boot it?
[06:36] <X_Force> eck: no programan language currently supports this (MS .NET 2.0 ?  and the dll for c)
[06:37] <eck> X_Force: if one did, i would imagine that it would be mono (the FOSS implementation of C#)
[06:37] <LjL> berent: because GRUB doesn't know how to read an ISO. i think i said this.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  no idea what you mean about 'booting' it.. I boot my .iso files with vmware all the time.. thats how i  use them.
[06:37] <eck> X_Force: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[06:37] <X_Force> sry .. wrong ifno .http://www.mono-project.com/Transactions
[06:37] <mirek> PL   ????
[06:37] <LjL> berent: GRUB is a bootloader. it runs *way* before Linux is started, so *way* before it can mount anything. GRUB needs to know how to read filesystems *by itself*, with no help from Linux, since it isn't *running*
[06:37] <Pollywog> btw why is it called mono... any particular reason?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  i DO belive ive seen special boot-cd's that can boot.load from an .iso file. but its not just a 'grub' feature' DSL linux can do this
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  as can PuppyLinux
[06:37] <mirek> sa polacy ??
[06:37] <LjL> !pl | mirek
[06:37] <X_Force> seem to be done already ..
[06:37] <ubotu> mirek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:38] <morphinex> I am booting off a livecd, so when I change grub options on the HD i want to boot off, how do i make those changes stick?
[06:38] <qfour20> I seem to have completely forgotten how on earth to manually install grub.  I have a prepared ubuntu install that died on grub install.  How do I direct grub to install on /dev/hdd (should be hd3, right?)
[06:38] <tkp> hi
[06:39] <LjL> !grub > qfour20    (qfour20, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:39] <eck> qfour20: the easiest way is with grub-install
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  if you change the PROPER /boot/grub/menu.lst they should stay
[06:39] <morphinex> Dr_willis: why/how?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  i just was testing out the 'super grub' boot cd. it has a lot of options where it can try to auto-fix your grub stuff
[06:39] <tkp> I just upgraded to Edgy and I now seem to be unable to install trac because of problems with one of it's dependencies (python-clearsilver)
[06:39] <morphinex> Dr_willis: now that my machine can't boot, I can't really make a grub super disk ;)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  you mount your installed system. (it may get auto mounted) then you cd to the /media/mountpount/boot/grub and edit the menu.lst
[06:39] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : ok so only when i have two root points(which is impossible) i will be able to mount iso on hard disk right
[06:40] <LjL> berent: what is a root point?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  got a floppy disk/drive? it  can do it from floppy also.
[06:40] <morphinex> Dr_willis: yeah, that is what I did
[06:40] <morphinex> Dr_willis: I don't have a floppy drive either
[06:40] <berent> LjL: like i have ubuntu at /
[06:40] <tipsy> My USB headset isn't working  after i installed new alsa drivers, how can i get the headset working again?
[06:40] <teeL> Does anyone know where i can get this phpsysinfo template? http://tobby007.no-ip.org/info/
[06:40] <Dr_willis> berent,  Huh?   Not sure what you are trying todo...
[06:40] <LjL> berent: no. that's not the problem.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> berent,   you can make a .iso file 'mount' anywhere.
[06:40] <X_Force> other question. . it know that this question is silly . but anyway .. is the linux kernel faster then the MS's kernels ?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> but mountingit to / is not exactly very proper.
[06:41] <LjL> berent: when GRUB starts, it's instructed where to look for the root partition. you can make a GRUB entry with a different one. it simply *can't be an ISO*, that's the only problem.
[06:41] <nickspoon> Hmm.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  its got much more people tweaking and working on it.. so i would say yes.
[06:41] <axiety> hellow, can someone help me use Gnome-RDP ?
[06:41] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : sorry i wanted to ask about boot not mount
[06:41] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : ok so only when i have two root points(which is impossible) i will be able to boot iso on hard disk right
[06:41] <danshtr> Hi all
[06:41] <X_Force> Dr_willis: is there a benchmark ?? ..
[06:41] <LjL> berent: no.
[06:41] <LjL> see above.
[06:41] <danshtr> How can I disable touch pad on t41?
[06:42] <X_Force> Dr_willis: because is also think that linux is faster ..
[06:42] <Dr_willis> berent,  the ONLY time ive seen iso files booted is that special PuppyLinux or was it DSL? boot cd feature that could 'run' from a .iso file.. technocially it was NOT booting the .iso. it was using an initrd and transfering controll over to the mounted .iso
[06:42] <axiety> hellow, can someone help me use Gnome-RDP i'm using Ubuntu 6.10... ?
[06:42] <Kronuz> I'm back
[06:43] <LjL> Dr_willis: so not using the kernel that came in the ISO, i'd assume?
[06:43] <Dimensions> Hiya i wanna boot my system by default without GUI i changed runlevel from 2 to 3 in /etc/inittab but still it boots into GUI why is that ?
[06:43] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : yeah thats what . i will take out all things from iso and keep at a place in hard disk initrd and vmlinuz so now can i boot it from hard disk instructing grub
[06:43] <Dr_willis> LJL i beliuve that is correct.. not sure how it did it. :) i can use the puppyboot cd. and give it the path to the .iso file and it will 'run' from the .iso file.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> but its not grub thats doing it.. its the special initrd I guess.
[06:44] <tipsy> My USB headset isn't working  after i installed new alsa drivers, how can i get the headset working again?
[06:44] <LjL> Dimensions: because you've been given wrong advice, i guess. runlevels 2 and 3 dont' change much of anything in Ubuntu, and specifically not whether X autostarts or not. if you don't want X to start by default, either remove GDM (or whatever DM you're using), or use update-rc.d to remove its startup script links
[06:45] <axiety> can anyone help me use Gnome-RDP i'm using Ubuntu 6.10... ?
[06:46] <tipsy> Rcconf can turn GMD off at bootup if you want to startup without the Xserver starting
[06:46] <predaeus> tipsy, did you check volume settings. Sounds funny but installing the ALSA utils changes that I think. Not sure about drivers.
[06:46] <axiety> can anyone help me use Gnome-RDP i'm using Ubuntu 6.10... ?
[06:46] <busfahre1> I am a bit confused. I installed another videocard on my board (and switched BIOS from AGP to PCI for primary video output), got it to work. Now my SOUND doesn't work anymore. It plays back fine, but I can't hear anything. I turned up all the volume controls I could find. Any ideas?
[06:46] <free> hat einer das w850 se
[06:46] <LjL> !de | free
[06:46] <ubotu> free: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:46] <free> oder das k800i
[06:47] <free> o sorry
[06:47] <axiety> CAN ANYONE HELP ME ?
[06:47] <tipsy> predaeus,  the problem is that my USB headset is recognized as a USB device, but not as a sound device. My Soundblaster is the only listed sound device now.
[06:47] <ralth>   Question:  what file do I need to change to have 915resolution run at boot?
[06:47] <LjL> !caps | axiety
[06:47] <ubotu> axiety: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:47] <axiety> can anyone help me use Gnome-RDP i'm using Ubuntu 6.10... ?
[06:47] <axiety> sorry
[06:47] <MrEgg964> Hi, I installed Ubuntu in English, but now I'd like to mount a ntfs drive using locale=fr_FR. My problem is that fr_FR is not listed when I terminal locale -a. Any way I can sort this out ?
[06:47] <axiety> but this is the 7th time i post
[06:47] <pirx_> hi! which program is easiest to rip a dvd (to divx or something like that) with?
[06:48] <carlosqueso> anxiety, probably no one knows the answer
[06:48] <axiety> why not ? :)
[06:48] <LjL> axiety: within 8 minutes. yes, which brings me to
[06:48] <carlosqueso> try www.ubuntuforums.org, search then post
[06:48] <LjL> !repeat | axiety
[06:48] <ubotu> axiety: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:49] <carlosqueso> axieth cause we're just users like yourself
[06:49] <fbc> how would I mont hda1 while in the LIVE CD?
[06:49] <axiety> oh ok :<
[06:49] <Dr_willis> axiety,  well you are a little vague.. what part of using it do you not understand? check the docs yet? check the homepage yet?
[06:49] <fbc> how would I mount HDA1 using the live cd?
[06:49] <LjL> fbc: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[06:49] <Dr_willis> axiety,  ive never used it that i know of.. :) so...
[06:49] <LjL> fbc: if /media/hda1 does not exist, create it with sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[06:49] <ks1> all these impatient people.
[06:50] <fbc> LjL:  thanx
[06:50] <NET||abuse> hey all,,, where can i get some nice desktop widget, postits for my desktop, a gmail window perhaps, like mac osx widgets or vista gadget
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !info gnome-rdp
[06:50] <tipsy> predaeus, any further ideas about my USB headset problem?
[06:50] <ubotu> gnome-rdp: Remote Desktop Client for the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 102 kB, installed size 312 kB
[06:50] <Kronuz> hey, does anyone know where I can find help to make my dmraid (FakeRAID) work?
[06:50] <Kronuz> it isn't showing anything in my /dev/mapper
[06:51] <Kronuz> (just a configure file)
[06:51] <predaeus> tipsy, nah sry
[06:51] <tipsy> y:(
[06:51] <cisforcojo> hey guys, anyone know how to handle device event changes when disabling touchpad tapping?
[06:51] <axiety> i need to fill things like " computer, Username, Password, Domain ", im not sure i'm filling in the right stuff, coz the other is behind another router..
[06:51] <tipsy> Anyone else have an idea as to how i could get my USB headset recognized as a sound device again?
[06:52] <X_Force> Kronuz: habe dmraid installed ?
[06:52] <X_Force> Kronuz: and what Controler do you have ? .. what linux version .
[06:52] <Dr_willis> axiety,  at least NOW you are asking a 'real' question.. The router wil need to have the proper ports forwared. or else it will be blocking them
[06:52] <fbc> great. I've just discovered my username is OEM
[06:52] <Dr_willis> axiety,  or you will have to be doing some ssh tunneling through the router/firewall
[06:52] <NET||abuse> So,, anyone know where to get some nice widgets or gadgets , desktop applets or whatever, for gnome?
[06:52] <Trae> what's a good way to update time?  ?  rdate -s SERVER?
[06:53] <Trae> and anyone have an rdate server off the top of their head
[06:53] <X_Force> Kronuz>	?
[06:53] <noobian> how can i reverse this? /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/eventn
[06:53] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:53] <rsteele> dunno
[06:53] <X_Force> netabuse try karamba. .
[06:53] <Dr_willis> noobian,  just reboot? :) thats the windows answer
[06:54] <axiety> Dr_willis, i'm trying to connect to a remote windows PC , when i tried on a computer on the same LAN i'm in  it worked perfect, but when i try to connect to a computer through the internet it just times out
[06:54] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : one more q I am unable to extract anything
[06:54] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : one more q I am unable to extract anything from iso it says readonly
[06:54] <axiety> Dr_willis is under alot of pressure :)
[06:54] <LjL> berent: use sudo
[06:54] <Dr_willis> axiety,  yep.. the router/firewall dosetn know what/where to send the requests to.. unless each machine behind it has its own ip..  not just a local lan ip.
[06:54] <cisforcojo> anyone? has anyone disabled touchpad tapping?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> axiety,  the router is doing its job.
[06:54] <LjL> berent: that ISO is mounted for root access only
[06:55] <Dr_willis> berent,  extract what? you mount the iso and ya access it as a normal directory...
[06:55] <SirDucer> I'll be back later maybe
[06:55] <axiety> oki thanks, Dr_willis cu
[06:55] <berent> LjL: OK then i should be able to boot without a CD
[06:55] <feta> hello. while trying to open a specific pdf file, the evince document reader complains: 'Unable to open document - Unhandled MIME type'. what are MIME types and how to solve the problem?
[06:55] <mgs> Trae, you can synchronize it on the settings dialogue (Right click on the clock, select "Adjust Date & Time")
[06:56] <LjL> berent: if you say so. i've told you that i don't think so, but then who am i to know.
[06:56] <X_Force> feta: what do you mean with specific pdf file ?
[06:56] <Trae> mgs, cool tx
[06:56] <carlosqueso> feta: evince just doesn't read every pdf.  You'll need to install the acroread package for some
[06:56] <feta> X_Force: some pdf files won't open - just some
[06:56] <berent> LjL : hey :-)) i was optimistic with my arraogance i suppose but i will explore it though
[06:57] <X_Force> feta: other do properly?
[06:57] <tipsy> If nobody here has the answer, where can i go for help with my sound problem?
[06:57] <feta> carlosqueso: so the acroread package is most comprehensive and reads whatever pdf file?
[06:57] <feta> X_Force: some pdf files do open, yes
[06:57] <carlosqueso> tipsy: try www.ubuntuforums.org lots of people there and searchable
[06:57] <Psycholiquid71> quick question can you search UNC path drives form Ubuntu
[06:57] <predaeus> tipsy, did you search the Ubuntu forums for your specific card and also the alsa page for supported cards?
[06:57] <X_Force> feta: right click on the wrong ones and press Properiteis .
[06:58] <X_Force> feta: and check the Mime/Type field
[06:58] <tipsy> ya, i've posted there without any luck
[06:58] <carlosqueso> feta: acroread is the adobe reader (official) package, so yes....although it isn't free software
[06:58] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone. I have a command line question and I hope someone can answer it for me. what is the utility to find the date for a given unix time? in BSD date -r 1173696400, tells me what date, timezone etc it is.
[06:59] <ekimus> anyone has xen and an iscsi target running? i just can't figure out how to do that - using the xen binary distribution, sources and build-essential is installed for the kernel building, but the tarball from iscsitarget.sf.net just won't compile if I point it to the kernel src of xen...
[06:59] <nikosapi> Remowylliams: date?
[06:59] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: I'm not sure off-hand, but I'm sure you could make a quick-n-dirty Perl script and place it into /usr/local/bin
[06:59] <carlosqueso> remony i think it's just date -d
[06:59] <tipsy> Oh well, thx predaeus and carlosqueso  for youattemts to help me. have a nice day
[07:00] <Dimensions> Thanks LjL:
[07:00] <Remowylliams> nikosapi: No it seems sys V date doesn't do that conversion. I can give it a date and see the seconds but not the other way around.
[07:00] <Psycholiquid71> quick question can you search UNC path drives from Ubuntu
[07:00] <comradec> hi I'm trying to get it to so that firestarter firewall can be launched without a sudo command.  I added username<font size="3">   ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter to visudo, but it still doesn't let me launch firestarter from a normal user</font>
[07:00] <carlosqueso> Remowylliams: it's date -d
[07:00] <nikosapi> Remowylliams: ohh
[07:01] <X_Force> Remowylliams:: no this dont work..
[07:01] <X_Force> Remowylliams: ( date -d)
[07:01] <Agrajag> comradec: nopassword notwithstanding, you still have to use sudo to gain root privileges
[07:01] <Remowylliams> BrownFrog: thank you that would be very handy. I guess .. carlosqueso Ok I'll give it a try but I don't see that option listen
[07:01] <Dimensions> tipsy what is Rcconf ?
[07:01] <X_Force> comradec:: you can set the SUID bit ..
[07:01] <feta> X_Force: it doesn't say anything about MIME type. but surprisingly, the document would open after i had first saved in on Desktop and opened then
[07:01] <X_Force> comradec:: then the application will be launched as user root .
[07:02] <X_Force> feta: was it a network driver ?
[07:02] <cisforcojo> no one has a touchpad?
[07:02] <comradec> <font size="3">X_Force: I was following the how to on firestarters homepage, thats what they say to do, but I guess it's wrong?</font>
[07:02] <feta> X_Force: network driver? huh?
[07:02] <jaykay> Looking for Wozzles!
[07:02] <carlosqueso> qcisforcojo: not anymore now that I killed my laptop :-(
[07:02] <X_Force> feta: a lan folder ??
[07:02] <Remowylliams> X_Force: -d is not a valid option in RH or SCO
[07:02] <cisforcojo> carlos: ouch. did you run linux on it?
[07:02] <feta> X_Force: i don't understand. i'm talking about a pdf text document.
[07:02] <`nicola> what's the command to restart sound device ? (otherwise I need to reboot)
[07:03] <carlosqueso> cisforcojo, yup, but mine had a button to turn it off
[07:03] <X_Force> feta: what was the path of the pdf file ?
[07:03] <cisforcojo> carlos: ah. haha mine might as well
[07:03] <cisforcojo> but this is a chinese computer
[07:03] <feta> X_Force: do you want the url?
[07:03] <X_Force> feta: y
[07:03] <cisforcojo> so I have no idea about the manual
[07:03] <Dimensions> LjL: what is Rcconf ?
[07:03] <carlosqueso> cis, oops...is there a button above the touchpad that doesn't seem to do anything?
[07:03] <LjL> Dimensions: haven't got a clue
[07:03] <nickweb> hey guys and gals - sorry to keep on hasselling you. im on to my last few problems.. :P
[07:03] <cisforcojo> no, sir
[07:04] <carlosqueso> cis, then I'm afraid I have no clue and no computer to mess with, sorry
[07:04] <tronica> does anyone know of a good proftpd tutorial
[07:04] <Razoz> Hi, how do i disable the Ipv6?
[07:04] <nickweb> im trying to add some commands to the start-up sessions bit of gnome, but everytime i restart the xserver, I loose whatever I've typed in.. any ideas?
[07:04] <cisforcojo> ah no problem
[07:04] <cisforcojo> thanks for the help
[07:04] <feta> X_Force: sorry, cannot tell, it is under a logged-in session on firefox
[07:04] <raczman> hi
[07:05] <X_Force> feta: ?
[07:05] <X_Force> feta: a website ?
[07:05] <bibe> hi all. I am looking for (w/ no success) a simple howto to build the linux-image and linux-restricted-modules on Edgy starting from the linux-source-2.6.20 package in Feisty. Any hint, please?
[07:05] <rbil> cisforcojo: what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <feta> X_Force: the pdf document was on a web site, yes, but i cannot tell the url
[07:05] <teeL> How can i view page stats like unique visitors on my webserver?
[07:05] <comradec> <font size="3">Agrajag: So What should I replace nopasswd with, nopassword?</font>
[07:05] <Dimensions> LjL: how do i use  update-rc.d to remove startup scripts to boot into console by default ?
[07:05] <Agrajag> comradec: what, no
[07:05] <Tonren> VLC won't display IDX/SUB subtitles.  Can anyone help?
[07:06] <Bookia> wow, this place is packed :D
[07:06] <Bookia> hello
[07:06] <X_Force> feta: ok . .only the info that it was an websize is relevant .
[07:06] <LjL> Dimensions: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[07:06] <Agrajag> comradec: what you're doing is allowing people to use sudo to run firestarter without giving a password.
[07:06] <X_Force> feta: are you able to open other pdf files in firefox ?
[07:06] <Agrajag> comradec: but they still have to sue sudo
[07:06] <felipeee> Jowi: hello
[07:06] <Razoz> Can any1 help me disable the IPV6?
[07:06] <Agrajag> comradec: er, use
[07:06] <feta> X_Force: yes
[07:06] <LjL> !ipv6 > Razoz    (Razoz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:06] <bibe> Dimensions : update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[07:06] <Bookia> well i suppose its just about blurting out your question
[07:06] <X_Force> feta: then probly its the fault of the other webserver .
[07:06] <Bookia> i cant get mplayer to work
[07:06] <nickweb> im trying to add some commands to the start-up sessions bit of gnome, but everytime i restart the xserver, I loose whatever I've typed in.. any ideas?
[07:06] <raczman> i have problem with my soundcard, can aynone help me out?
[07:07] <X_Force> feta: if he is not handling the mime type corrent .
[07:07] <Bookia> can anyone be of assistance?
[07:07] <Psycholiquid71> I figured it out very handy for linux for once very good OS so far
[07:07] <X_Force> feta: * correct
[07:07] <comradec> <font size="3">Agrajag: so it wont work cause they still have to provide a pass for sudo?</font>
[07:07] <xenalise> Heya... Got a problem with apache... For some reason .htaccess causes an ISE500, yet as far as I can see it's formatting, etc is fine
[07:07] <xenalise> Any ideas?
[07:07] <X_Force> feta: are you familier with wireshark ?
[07:07] <feta> X_Force: nope
[07:07] <raczman> i tried building drivers from the source, now i cant run alsamixer but i have login/logout sounds
[07:07] <Dimensions> LjL:  that would remove gdm for ever ? i mean what i want basically is that boot by default into console but if needed type startx to bring GUI ...
[07:07] <Razoz> LjL: Thx :)
[07:07] <Agrajag> comradec: no, they don't have to provide a password.
[07:07] <tronica> does anyone know of a good proftpd tutorial
[07:07] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: Here's a script for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8957/
[07:07] <Agrajag> comradec: but they still have to use sudo.
[07:07] <LjL> Dimensions: that would do that.
[07:07] <X_Force> feta: then plz give me just the domain name of the website .. i will check if it is windows ..
[07:07] <raczman> and gnome applet thingie says there;s no sound card
[07:08] <LjL> Dimensions: or just "sudo apt-get remove gdm"
[07:08] <Agrajag> comradec: you said you were trying to run it without sudo?
[07:08] <felipeee> Jowi: Hello Jowi
[07:08] <bibe> Dimensions : you will be able to start X with... startx
[07:08] <comradec> <font size="3">Agrajag: I just want a normal user to be able to launch firestarter without having to put any password in</font>
[07:08] <Agrajag> comradec: they can
[07:08] <Razoz> LjL:  Is it the same as Ubuntu in Xubuntu?
[07:08] <xenalise> Chade: Nickname from the Farseer Trilogy by any chance? :P
[07:08] <Agrajag> comradec: if you have that set correctly they can run "sudo firestarter" and it will just run
[07:09] <Chade> Hi, anyone mind answering a few questions about how I should be formatting my partitions for a dual boot XP/Ubuntu machine?
[07:09] <Agrajag> comradec: that depends on /etc/sudoers being set up right.
[07:09] <comradec> <font size="3">Agrajag: but when I have it setup like that, it gives me an error in the terminal Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified, (firestarter:5106): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:</font>
[07:09] <Chade> Certainly is Xenalise
[07:09] <oni-dracula> could someone help me with mounting my phone? from what I can tell it's being mounted as vfat with read/write permissions enabled...but when I try to transfer stuff to it, it says it's a "read only file system"
[07:09] <xenalise> Chade: classy! :)
[07:09] <xenalise> One of my fav characters :D
[07:09] <feta> X_Force: i'm sorry. but i'm pretty confident the web server is under windows
[07:09] <Chade> Also stole it for most of my online gaming ;)
[07:09] <xenalise> Hehe
[07:09] <LjL> Razoz: for removing ipv6? yes.
[07:09] <xenalise> I used to go by FitzChivalry
[07:09] <Agrajag> comradec: did you try using gksudo instead of sudo?
[07:09] <felipeee> Jowi: Hey Jowi
[07:09] <Chade> Yeah I think he's an excellent character
[07:10] <Razoz> LjL:  okay, its diffrent in Kubuntu ^
[07:10] <X_Force> feta: the its a pitty ..
[07:10] <comradec> <font size="3">Agrajag: same error</font>
[07:10] <X_Force> feta: im not familier with the webserver  .but is the prob of the webserver ..
[07:10] <Chade> I've reserved 30gb on my machine for linux partitions as empty space, and I have 2gig of ram, should i be setting my swap partition to about 4gig?
[07:10] <WyvernKing> Hey, I'm considering changing to Linux from Windows XP, and it all confuses me slightly. I'd be buying a new computer to have in my room, and connect to the internet, and would use it mostly for gaming, but also torrents, (legal) roms, internet browsing etc - which distribution of Linux should I get? Ubuntu would seem to be the choice but to get the most out of my PC and reduce lag, would...
[07:10] <WyvernKing> ...Xubuntu be better?
[07:10] <LjL> Razoz: only as far as the text editor they tell you to use is... use your favorite editor. make it "sudo nano" if all else fails.
[07:10] <feta> X_Force: ok, thank you
[07:10] <xenalise> Chade: I set my swap to 5Gb :)
[07:11] <xenalise> I have 2gb ram on this lappy
[07:11] <Remowylliams> BrownFrog: thank you very much missing the timezone though. but hang on. :)
[07:11] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: First, what kind of hardware do you have?
[07:11] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: At least it's a start ;)
[07:11] <reppe2> how do i choose the default cpu freq governor? i want conservative, not ondemand (which reduces batteries life...)
[07:11] <dhruv> hi guys i need a good sources list for edgy
[07:11] <Schleppfux> Hi guys, does anybody know how to read and burn Xbox360-Games in Ubuntu?
[07:12] <Chade> xenalise: Thanks! Will do that, see if it goes better. Just to confirm, I want to partition 25gb as ex3 and 5gb as swap then?
[07:12] <rbil> Chad: with that much RAM, you'll hardly ever touch the swap partition. 1GB should be way more than enough. Besides, if you find your swap partition is not large enough down the road, you could add a swapfile.
[07:12] <psusi> reppe2: ondemand means it slows down the cpu when it is idle, and speeds it up when you are actually using it... is that not what you want?
[07:12] <Bookia> xenalise, why on earth did you set your swap so large?
[07:12] <X_Force> comradec he .. use suid ..
[07:12] <xenalise> Chade: Correct :)
[07:12] <WyvernKing> BrownFrog: at the moment, just a modest 512 MB of RAM, and enough disk space, but this would be a new computer
[07:12] <xenalise> Bookia: Just encase :)
[07:12] <X_Force> comradec : http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml#setuid
[07:12] <Dimensions> thanks LjL and bibe
[07:12] <comradec> <font size="3">X_Force: I don't know what you mean</font>
[07:12] <grndslm> anyone know what the point of the pilot-applet for the gnome-panels??  if gpilotd is all that needs to be running to initiate a hotsync?
[07:13] <WyvernKing> BrownFrog: and probably anything from 1GB to 2GB of RAM, depending on how many Ram sticks I stuff in it
[07:13] <psusi> comradec: why are you speaking in html?
[07:13] <Remowylliams> BrownFrog: Seems like the time is off. it responds Mon Mar 12 04:46:40 2007, my BSD system reports it as Mon Mar 12 05:46:40 CDT 2007
[07:13] <nickweb> im trying to add some commands to the start-up sessions bit of gnome, but everytime i restart the xserver, I loose whatever I've typed in.. any ideas?
[07:13] <comradec> <font size="3">X_Force: give my user account +x to firestarter?</font>
[07:13] <X_Force> comradec: no ..
[07:14] <X_Force> just call chmod u+s firestarter ..
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Is there any reason scim would be needed for non-asian languages?  (English and Spanish)
[07:14] <uglybetty> Thanks I have Ubuntu set up on old system now
[07:14] <grndslm> nickweb:  what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:14] <Chade> Bookia, rbil & xenalise: Sorry not sure which method to go with, setting my swap partition to around 1gb or 5gb?
[07:14] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: With just one hour off, and the recently-updated DST rules, I'd guess it's a DST issue
[07:14] <X_Force> comradec: but use sudo chmo ...
[07:14] <androse> Hello. I have upgraded to Feisty, I've installed the ruby1.8 package, but the packages for irb, rdoc and ri are missing. Apparently, they only existe in Universe, although is seems weird to have the ruby package and not the others. Am I mistaken ?
[07:14] <X_Force> comradec: and bevor di > sudo chown root firestarter
[07:14] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: (Not sure which one is right though)
[07:14] <Schleppfux> Hi guys, does anybody know how to read and burn Xbox360-Games in Ubuntu?
[07:14] <rbil> Chade: you could even go less than 1GB, but if you want to feel "safe" :-) 1GB is more than enuf
[07:15] <X_Force> comradec: to change the owner of the programm to root
[07:15] <xenalise> Chade: Common practice for mose is at least double your ram
[07:15] <grndslm> nickweb:  you've used System -> Prefs -> Sessions and it won't save??
[07:15] <xenalise> *most
[07:15] <Remowylliams> BrownFrog: I"m trying to test the new DST file that's why I'm struggling with this. LOL
[07:15] <cisforcojo> anyone here disabled touchpad tapping?
[07:15] <xenalise> I wouldn't go less then that
[07:15] <nickweb> grndslm, yep - bang on
[07:15] <rbil> xenalise: not if you already have that much RAM for goodness sake
[07:15] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: It may be heresy here, but for the kind of tasks you'd be doing I'd skip Ubuntu and install Debian ;)
[07:15] <xenalise> rbil: ubuntu seems to use a fair bit of it, and swap for that matter
[07:16] <WyvernKing> BrownFrog: Thanks for that :) I've been looking around trying to find out what I can use best for gaming, I'll go research Debian
[07:16] <rbil> Chade: to give u some perspective ... I have 750GB RAM and a swapfile of 1GB and I hardly use more than 100MB of my swap
[07:16] <grndslm> nickweb:  if everything else of yours saves...and as long as you logged out "properly" instead of ctrl+alt+backspace or a hard restart...
[07:16] <grndslm> it should save
[07:16] <rbil> Chade: most times it's using under 50mb
[07:16] <Tonren> VLC won't display IDX/SUB subtitles.  Can anyone help?
[07:16] <grndslm> but ya never know with free software
[07:16] <xenalise> 750Gb or Mb?
[07:16] <felipeee> I can't connect to an dsl connection, i installed rp-pppoe but the pppoe-start get time outed, my modem is routing and it connects to the ISP automatically.
[07:16] <nickweb> hmm
[07:16] <nickweb> lol
[07:17] <nickweb> ill try a log out properly - sure itried that first tho.
[07:17] <pirx_> xenalise: 750 ngigabyte of course!
[07:17] <nickweb> brb
[07:17] <rbil> xenalise: of course that was a typo, 750MB
[07:17] <X_Force> felipeee then you dont need pppoe .
[07:17] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: It's what works best on my computer at least; your milage may vary (I'm actually testing out Feisty now)
[07:17] <xenalise> rbil: I was about to say :P
[07:17] <felipeee> what i need?
[07:17] <X_Force> felipeee: just set you gateway to the ip of your modem/router. .
[07:17] <Exal> hi, does ahyone knows how I can run the telnet server?
[07:17] <Chade> Heh
[07:17] <Neil3> hey all, does anyone know if using the restricted formats (like decss, mp3, mpeg2 etc) is legal in the UK?
[07:17] <X_Force> Neil3: i think so . because they are supplied by ubuntu ..
[07:17] <xenalise> Chade: I'm just used to sticking to old methods, hence a 5Gb swap for me :)
[07:18] <Ind[y] > I get this when I run startx. Any help, please? http://pastebin.ca/383907
[07:18] <Exal>  hi, does ahyone knows how I can run the telnet server?
[07:18] <rbil> xenalise: old methods were old methods when having 256MB of RAM was alot of RAM :-)
[07:18] <xenalise> rbil: I know :P
[07:18] <xenalise> Old habits die hard though ;)
[07:18] <Neil3> thanks X_Force, have been trying to google for info on this but haven't found much except that it varies widely from country to country, and I've learned that it's illegal in the US
[07:18] <felipeee> X_Force just it?  route add default gw IP ?
[07:19] <Chade> xenalise & rbil: Thanks for the advice. Will try setting my swap partition to around 1gig then to begin with, if I have any issues I'll just reformat and up the size of the swap partition
[07:19] <WyvernKing> BrownFrog: Thanks :) *wikis kernel*
[07:19] <nickweb> grndslm, just tried it and it still isnt saving.
[07:19] <xenalise> Exal: Installed telnetd?
[07:19] <X_Force> felipeee: should work .
[07:19] <rbil> Chade: if you ever find 1GB is not enuf, you can add a swapfile
[07:19] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: No problem; good luck :)
[07:19] <Chade> My first foray into Linux so doesn't matter if a few things go wrong first time round
[07:19] <rbil> Chade: so don't worry about it :-)
[07:19] <grndslm> nickweb:  sorry, dunno what to tell ya
[07:19] <X_Force> felipeee: if thing you can wirte it also in your network config ,
[07:19] <finn23> how can I quickly find the /dev/ name of an attached device?
[07:19] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: (If you do go Debian, make sure it's etch or sid, *not* sarge!)
[07:19] <nickweb> lol - okies.. cheers anyways
[07:19] <popey> finn23: a usb device?
[07:19] <xenalise> Exal: Did you install telnetd?
[07:19] <popey> finn23: dmesg will report it usually
[07:19] <finn23> YES
[07:20] <Exal> xenalise: sure, telnetd is installed
[07:20] <finn23> sorry, capslock
[07:20] <Exal> but, how to run the server
[07:20] <popey> finn23: type dmesg in a terminal and you will see it at the bottom
[07:20] <Chade> Right, time to go install Ubuntu, will report back when I'm done. Thanks again guys
[07:20] <felipeee> X_Force you mean /etc/network/interfaces?  how my eth0 must be?
[07:20] <WyvernKing> BrownFrog: Etch or Sid, not sarge, thankyou very much :D
[07:20] <Exal> if I try $telnet localhost doesn't work
[07:20] <xenalise> Exal: I don't tun telnet myself, but I'd assume you just start it :)
[07:20] <X_Force> felipeee yeah ..
[07:20] <BrownFrog> WyvernKing: Glad to help :)
[07:21] <psusi> Exal: "try $telnet"?  huh?
[07:21] <X_Force> felipeee: the router settings are deletet after a reboot . .and the network settings not
[07:21] <finn23> it's sdc, not scd   :o
[07:21] <finn23> thanks for your help
[07:21] <felipeee> X_Force auto eth0 ; iface eth0 inet manual ?
[07:21] <psusi> Exal: the command is simply telnet... no $... and "doesn't work" is not an error description
[07:21] <Exal> psusi: no :(
[07:21] <Exal> exal@bernardita:~$ telnet 192.168.101.100
[07:21] <Exal> Trying 192.168.101.100...
[07:21] <Exal> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[07:21] <Exal> exal@bernardita:~$
[07:22] <xenalise> Exal: Hate to ask... But is it started?
[07:22] <psusi> Exal: is that your address and did you install the telnetd package?
[07:22] <Exal> is a good description ;)
[07:22] <psusi> Exal: you probably need to configure and (re)start the server
[07:22] <Exal> xenalise: sure, my question is, how to I start the telnet server
[07:23] <psusi> Exal: why are you using telnet though?  it is insecure
[07:23] <grndslm> for real...ssh is the way
[07:23] <Exal> psusi: i have a program that use telnet
[07:23] <xenalise> Exal: sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start I'd assume
[07:23] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: Found something possibly better on Google; GNU date has a weird syntax compared to BSD date; try 'date -d @1168573011'
[07:23] <X_Force> felipeee: auto eth0
[07:23] <X_Force> iface eth0 inet static
[07:23] <X_Force>         address 192.168.100.1
[07:23] <X_Force>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:23] <X_Force>         network 192.168.100.0
[07:23] <psusi> Exal: huh?
[07:23] <X_Force>         broadcast 192.168.100.255
[07:23] <X_Force>         gateway 192.168.100.2
[07:23] <kitche> !paste| X_Force
[07:23] <ubotu> X_Force: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <Tonren> VLC won't display IDX/SUB subtitles.  Can anyone help?
[07:23] <X_Force> a static entry looks like that .
[07:23] <X_Force> ubotu>	: sry .
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sry . - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Exal> psusi: I haven't /etc/init.d/telnetd
[07:24] <BrownFrog> X_Force: ubotu is a bot; no use apologizing to it ;)
[07:24] <Exal> but telnetd is installed
[07:24] <felipeee> X_Force thank you very much, i'll try then i came back here...thanks
[07:24] <xenalise> Exal: Is there anything in /etc/init.d for just telnet then?
[07:24] <Remowylliams> BrownFrog: That's been suggested. And technically I suppose if I get gnudate and build it. I can do that. but neither of these systems have a -d option.
[07:24] <psusi> Exal: it is run from inetd
[07:24] <xenalise> Oh
[07:24] <xenalise> Ouch
[07:24] <BrownFrog> Remowylliams: Ah, ok; scratch that idea, then
[07:24] <Exal> ho
[07:25] <xenalise> That's more backwards then I am :P
[07:25] <Agrajag> Exal: whoa, wait a sec
[07:25] <xenalise> (Only just though!)
[07:25] <teeL> How can i view page stats like unique visitors on my webserver?
[07:25] <Agrajag> Exal: Are you sure you want telnetd? What will you use it for?
[07:25] <psusi> Exal: why arne't you using sshd instead again?
[07:25] <Agrajag> Exal: If you're just trying to get a remote shell, sshd would be better
[07:25] <Exal> Agrajag: is for an accounting program
[07:26] <psusi> what does an accounting program have to do with telnet?
[07:26] <Exal> establish a conection with my server
[07:27] <Exal> remote host establish conection with my server
[07:27] <grndslm> you don't need telnetd to connect to a server
[07:27] <grndslm> you need telnet
[07:27] <Exal> sure, but I am configure the server, no the remote hosts
[07:27] <grndslm> and if this is a linux server you're building right now, it should be using sshd
[07:27] <psusi> unless this accounting program is really, really weird, it should not know or care about telnet or telnetd
[07:28] <grndslm> Exal:  sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[07:28] <psusi> telnet is for running a shell on a remote computer.... which shouldn't have a thing to do with accounting programs... unless you want to run the accounting program under the remote shell..
[07:29] <Exal> grndslm: sure, its installed ;)
[07:29] <psusi> Exal: then do ssh localhost
[07:30] <Exal> sure, i know ssh
[07:30] <Exal> but I need telnet
[07:30] <psusi> what makes you think that?
[07:30] <rickympl> how can i open a video using mplayer, but have it display on another display, like tv-out
[07:30] <Exal> my remote hosts are configured for telnet
[07:31] <xenalise> Exal: for a company?
[07:31] <Exal> but, may be I will use sshd
[07:31] <psusi> Exal: you mean you want to connect to a server that is running telnetd instead of sshd?
[07:31] <Exal> psusi: yes
[07:31] <Zaggynl> Anyon knows some tweaks to speed up Firefox? It's terribly slow :(
[07:31] <Exal> xenalise: yes
[07:31] <psusi> Exal: well you should talk to the admins of said servers and get them to replace telnetd with sshd
[07:31] <psusi> Exal: and you don't need telnetd on your machine to telnet to theirs
[07:31] <Exal> :-/
[07:31] <xenalise> ...
[07:32] <xenalise> Why not just help him setup telnetd?
[07:32] <xenalise> Companies aren't going to change their ways because some guy on irc told them to...
[07:32] <psusi> because it's a bad idea
[07:32] <xenalise> psusi: Yes, but they're not going to change things because you said so
[07:32] <psusi> companies should change their ways because they have compotent admins and are concerened about security
[07:32] <xenalise> Welcome to the Real World. Doesn't always happen.
[07:33] <Exal> hehee
[07:33] <Agrajag> psusi: what if this application is running on some ancient proprietary UNIX and doesn't know one thing about ssh?
[07:33] <psusi> you would be surprised how fast it happens after the company is hacked and their head IT guys is fired....
[07:33] <Exal> n=root@user-85- ---security??
[07:33] <andios> hi
[07:33] <psusi> in any case, you don't need telnetd on your machine to telnet to theirs
[07:33] <xenalise> psusi: Yes now we're going into the realms of stupidity and childishness
[07:34] <IcemanV9> fwiw, telnet has NO security and ssh DO have security - it's up to the company :)
[07:34] <Tonren> VLC won't display IDX/SUB subtitles.  Can anyone help?
[07:34] <andios> I'm getting this annoyng The Application Nautilus has quit unexpectdly -error after upgrading 6.06 -> 6.10
[07:34] <Agrajag> psusi: unless this program is going to try to make a connection to the machine Exal is setting up.
[07:34] <xenalise> His request sounds simple: He needs telnetd for some big of security. So why not just answer the damned question he asked?
[07:34] <andios> could somebody help me with this?
[07:34] <xenalise> *for some accounting software
[07:35] <xenalise> Somehow I ctrl+c'ed that last statement...
[07:35] <dirken> hey everyone
[07:35] <Agrajag> Exal: So. You have telnetd installed, but it won't run?
[07:35] <andios> I'm getting this annoyng The Application Nautilus has quit unexpectdly -error after upgrading 6.06 -> 6.10, somebody?
[07:35] <psusi> xenalise: because he doesn't seem to quite understand what is going on so rather than tell him which button to press ( which I don't even know since I have not run telnetd in years ), I'm trying to educate him
[07:36] <Exal> Agrajag: yes
[07:36] <Agrajag> What happens when you try "sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start"?
[07:36] <xenalise> psusi: I can understand that if he were CEO of said company, but consider this: He may not be? In which case theres no point
[07:36] <grndslm> Exal:  i thought you said earlier that you were trying to configure the server now...and then you just said you wanted to connect to a remote host (aka: server) where the accounting program is??
[07:36] <Exal> Agrajag: I haven't telnetd on /etc/init.d/
[07:36] <xenalise> Why not help him with the request, but suggest he move to ssh? Instead of just being unhelpful?
[07:37] <Riot777> anyone got Lexmark X2300 series printer ?:d
[07:37] <grndslm> Exal:  then it isn't installed of course
[07:37] <andios> somebody?
[07:37] <xenalise> I can understand both sides of it
[07:37] <owner> i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to set everything up
[07:37] <owner> i made a test.php file and put it in /var/www when i put http://localhost/test.php it will not load the page. i am sure that apache is running because when i try to start it it says apache is running
[07:37] <andios> i dont find solution from google
[07:37] <xenalise> But it seems that others aren't :S
[07:37] <psusi> xenalise: so far I only see that he wants to telnet to other machines that are running telnet, for which you do not need to be running telnetd... it is imperative to get a clear picture of the problem domain in order to propose a valid solution
[07:37] <abbyz> whenever i try to nfs mount a filesystem from my ubuntu server, i get an error "permission denied". Any clues? :(
[07:37] <dirken> i am working in ubuntu for the moment and looking for a way to handle dual monitors. What i've got know is that on my laptop screen everything is displayed fine but my external screen (that only supports 1024*768) is set in the same resolution as my laptop so i only see litle part of the screen. And also my screens are copies, i want get a large desktop but now i've a copy of my screen on my external screen
[07:37] <xenalise> psusi: He said he needs it for some software
[07:37] <Kronuz> hey, what do I need to install to be able to compile stuff?
[07:37] <Agrajag> grndslm: either that, or it's running from inetd/xinetd
[07:37] <dirken> any one can solve this?
[07:37] <owner> the page does not load at all. it keeps saying loading but doesn't load. it time-out after 2 minutes
[07:37] <andios> I'm getting this annoyng The Application Nautilus has quit unexpectdly -error after upgrading 6.06 -> 6.10, somebody?
[07:37] <xenalise> So he actually said he did need it
[07:38] <grndslm> Agrajag: doh...yes def. inetd
[07:38] <soundray> !repeat | andios
[07:38] <ubotu> andios: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:38] <dyrne> Riot777: id do a google search like "site:linuxprinting.org printermodel"  first
[07:38] <Exal> grndslm: root@serverkfc:/var/www# apt-get install telnetd
[07:38] <Exal> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[07:38] <Exal> Creando telnetd ya est
[07:38] <grndslm> really?
[07:38] <psusi> iirc, in.telnetd is invoked from inetd so you have to configure inetd properly... unlike sshd, telnetd does not run stand alone as its own server
[07:38] <xenalise> As I said, why not just help him sort the prob and then suggest he recommends to the "higher powers" that they use ssh instead?
[07:38] <andios> ubotu: ok, sorry. but i have hurry with this
[07:38] <xenalise> That would be the helpful, yet educational way
[07:38] <Riot777> I did that just was curious :d if anyone have it
[07:38] <Exal> how configure inetd
[07:39] <xenalise> Instead of being so closed-minded?
[07:39] <Agrajag> Exal: my Spanish is horrible, but I assume that means it's installed
[07:39] <andios> he was bot :P
[07:39] <IcemanV9> i am trying to install thinkfinger by compling from the source. it failed due to a few missing commands (autoconf, aclocal, automake, autoheader and libtoolize). which package to install on ubuntu (dapper) box?
[07:39] <kitche> Exal: configure inetd/xinetd first so telnetd will run
[07:39] <soundray> andios: you being in a hurry won't magically produce people who can help with your problem
[07:39] <dirken> i am working in ubuntu for the moment and looking for a way to handle dual monitors. What i've got know is that on my laptop screen everything is displayed fine but my external screen (that only supports 1024*768) is set in the same resolution as my laptop so i only see litle part of the screen. And also my screens are copies, i want get a large desktop but now i've a copy of my screen on my external screen
[07:39] <psusi> xenalise: because I still have not been able to get him to convey the full nature of the problem
[07:39] <andios> i know
[07:39] <Slart> Kronuz: what are you trying to install? something special? or you want to start programming yourself?
[07:39] <xenalise> psusi: He needs telnetd for some accounting software. That says more then enough to help him setup telnetd
[07:39] <finer> anyone know if there is a time frame for when a stable version of fiesty will be released?
[07:40] <erUSUL> !feisty
[07:40] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <Kronuz> Slart, well, I need to have all the libraries and stuff that are generally needed to compile stuff
[07:40] <xenalise> Infact thats too much info technically
[07:40] <xenalise> Just asking to help setup telnetd should be enough
[07:40] <Agrajag> Exal: Do you have a file, /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd?
[07:40] <dirken> dual monitors, anyone?
[07:40] <Kronuz> Slart, I'm trying to compile the most recent dmraid
[07:40] <psusi> xenalise: a better description of the problem often leads to a more accurate answer... and based on what he has said so far, I have a strong susicion that he is barking up the wrong tree
[07:40] <soundray> andios: you could say what you've done so far to solve the problem
[07:40] <Kronuz> ...the one I have isn't working :(
[07:40] <grndslm> dirken:  you must look into either xinerama or twinview
[07:40] <Exal> Agrajag: I don't have this file
[07:40] <Slart> Kronuz: if you want to compile some software from the repositories you can always do "apt-get build-deps packagename" to get what you need for that special package
[07:41] <grndslm> dirken:  don't remember which one it is...but either way you're gonna have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file by hand
[07:41] <andios> soundray: googled it, and i have tried to create new homedir
[07:41] <pax> this <quote> users are stupid mentality is a cancer </quote>, you don't need to protect users from themselves, just help when/if you can .. had to sat it sorry.
[07:41] <Slart> Kronuz: sorry.. sudo apt-get build-dep packagename works better
[07:41] <Agrajag> Exal: You you at least have the xinetd.d directory?
[07:41] <dirken> grndslm: is that also for ati cards?
[07:41] <Exal> Agrajag: no
[07:41] <psusi> xinetd is not installed by default, you will need to install that and make the config file
[07:41] <Kronuz> Slart, I suppose dmraid doesn't have the most recent version compiled
[07:41] <Exal> psusi: ahhh
[07:41] <grndslm> dirken: hmm...i do believe that it's independent of your driver
[07:42] <dirken> grndslm: allright, thx a lot!
[07:42] <xenalise> Yay, another UKer! :)
[07:42] <xenalise> G'day kernel_geek :)
[07:42] <grndslm> dirken: np
[07:42] <kernel_geek> Lo,Hello
[07:42] <Exal> done, xinetd is installed
[07:42] <xenalise> Anywho, I really cba with arguing since it's a waste of my productivity :)
[07:42] <Agrajag> Exal: Ok, install xinetd, and here's what the /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd file should look like: http://pastebin.ca/383943
[07:42] <kernel_geek> Have a problem you might be able o solve :D
[07:42] <kernel_geek> *to
[07:42] <kernel_geek> ok ...
[07:42] <Slart> Kronuz: then try "sudo apt-get build-dep dmraid" that should get you on the way... most of the time the command ./configure will tell you if something is missing and if so, what it's called
[07:42] <kernel_geek> I installed nvsound drivers
[07:43] <Kronuz> Slart, That's what I just did :)
[07:43] <kernel_geek> for my nforce 2 card
[07:43] <kernel_geek> *onboard
[07:43] <Kronuz> Slart, it seems it's getting the build-essential (which might be what I wanted to be able to compile stuff)
[07:43] <kernel_geek> And i get sound out of all speakers but center and bass
[07:43] <AlexC_> !enter | kernel_geek
[07:43] <ubotu> kernel_geek: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:43] <soundray> andios: have you looked at any log files? E.g. $HOME/.xsession-errors
[07:43] <andios> what should i do about the nautilus problem
[07:43] <psusi> Slart, Kronuz, why would you want to recompile the same source that is already in the repository?
[07:43] <kernel_geek> ok. I have to go and have tee now. By
[07:43] <andios> soundray: nope, i'll check them
[07:44] <xenalise> Enjoy, kernel_geek! :D
[07:44] <Slart> Kronuz: I think build-essential is package of the most used compiling tools.. you might need more stuff to compile certain packages
[07:44] <Kronuz> psusi, the version I got from the repository is 1.0.0 rc9 I believe
[07:44] <Kronuz> and there's rc13 already
[07:44] <andios> soundray: If I paste this somewhere, would you chek it out?
[07:44] <Slart> psusi: to enable strange switches ? =)
[07:45] <Kronuz> psusi, the current dmraid (rc9) doesn't work here :(
[07:45] <psusi> Kronuz: yes... I assume you are running dapper then?  rc13 made it into edgy iirc, and there was a bug report to have it backported to dapper in -backports... not sure if it ever was though
[07:45] <rickympl> how can i open a video using mplayer, but have it display on another display, like tv-out
[07:45] <psusi> Kronuz: let me see if I can find the bug report with the attached rc13 dapper backport
[07:45] <Kronuz> hmm, thanks psusi
[07:45] <Kronuz> what's dapper by the way?
[07:45] <soundray> andios: yes. Best use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:46] <Remowylliams> Thank you one and all for your efforts I'll keep looking for an answer.
[07:46] <IcemanV9> !dapper
[07:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[07:46] <Kronuz> oh
[07:46] <Kronuz> psusi, then no, I'm running 6.10
[07:46] <Quattro> hi all
[07:46] <Slart> Kronuz: that would be edgy
[07:46] <Slart> !edgy
[07:46] <Kronuz> yep
[07:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:46] <psusi> ohh, my bad... looks like it also didn't make it into edgy....
[07:47] <Kronuz> that's a name I've heard more often :P
[07:47] <Quattro> can anyone tell me please how to install openoffice
[07:47] <psusi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/68294
[07:47] <Quattro> first time installing anything
[07:47] <psusi> ther's the backport bug... attached is a binary build of rc13 for edgy
[07:47] <ks1> Quattro, openoffice should be there by default
[07:47] <Slart> Quattro: sudo apt-get install openoffice doesn't work?
[07:47] <vicks> when i bootup my kubuntu feisty, i get an out of sync message on my screen, when kde starts everything is ok. anyone knows what i can do?
[07:47] <AlexC_> vicks: #ubuntu+1 please
[07:47] <ranphatje> what USB 2.0 PCMCIA cards does ubuntu support?
[07:47] <Kronuz> psusi, great!, thanks :)
[07:47] <Quattro> but new version 2.1
[07:48] <christoph_> why the heck does edgy keep firing the backspace key automatically every 10 seconds?
[07:48] <Slart> Quattro: is there something great in the new version that you really really need?
[07:48] <Exal> Agrajag: I have created the telnetd file into xinet.d
[07:48] <Jowi> christoph_, it should not. usb keyboard?
[07:48] <Quattro> well just wanna learn how t instal, ;)
[07:48] <Kronuz> psusi, sorry I ask this, but where's the attachment?
[07:48] <christoph_> yes, usb
[07:48] <ks1> 2.1 is on feisty.
[07:48] <Blink182> hello
[07:48] <Blink182> !list
[07:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:48] <christoph_> but it also does that when the keyboard is not plugged in
[07:49] <AlexC_> magic,
[07:49] <Agrajag> Exal: OK, restart xinetd and see if telnet works
[07:49] <Slart> Quattro: easiest is just to wait for it to come to edgy.. if not, I guess you'll have to compile it yourself.. or find a package (.deb) somewhere.. perhaps on their site
[07:49] <Jowi> christoph_, which version of ubuntu and kernel do you use? (uname -a)
[07:49] <andios> soundray: is there way to just copy all text from nano?
[07:49] <AlexC_> Slart: it wont come to Edgy,
[07:49] <Slart> AlexC_: oh? not? feisty fawn then perhaps
[07:49] <Quattro> i guess i ll wait then, thanks anyway
[07:49] <AlexC_> Slart: at least via the official repositories, an un-offcial one then yeah
[07:49] <soundray> andios: I don't think so. Use 'cat ~/.xsession-errors' in a terminal.
[07:50] <Exal> Agrajag: sure, its work!
[07:50] <christoph_> Jowi: wait a minute, please
[07:50] <psusi> Kronuz: sorry, it was this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/54246
[07:50] <decoo> hi
[07:50] <Slart> Quattro: that's the best way... unless you really really need some new feature it's best to let it come to you =)
[07:50] <AlexC_> Slart: yeah, only security updates are ... updated. For example users of Dapper still have Firefox 1.5 and not 2, unless they unstall it an un-official way
[07:50] <Exal> Agrajag: many thanks
[07:50] <Exal> Agrajag: what is xinetd?
[07:50] <Quattro> ok thanks :)
[07:50] <Jowi> christoph_, you mean that the backspace is triggered even though the keyboard is disconnected?
[07:50] <ks1> some things should be backported... like openoffice 2.1. office applications are essential. anyways :P
[07:50] <Slart> AlexC_: ahh.. well.. they upgrade often enough that I wont care
[07:51] <ks1> i'm running feisty anyways.
[07:51] <Tomcat_> Who needs Firefox 2 anyway? :)
[07:51] <eilker> i am not sure what i installed xgl or aixgl , how can i know it ?
[07:51] <Agrajag> Exal: xinetd is a daemon that spawns other daemons when you connect to a port.
[07:51] <decoo> i'm newbie, can someone tell me how can I join to another #
[07:51] <decoo> ?
[07:51] <Slart> ks1: is it stable enough for everyday use?
[07:51] <AlexC_> decoo: /join #foo
[07:51] <Pici> decoo: /join #channel
[07:51] <decoo> thx
[07:51] <Slart> decoo: type /j #channelname
[07:51] <starly> decoo: /join #other-chan
[07:51] <andios> soundray: http://luola.homedns.org:8000/paste/index.php?id=169980430145edb87a388b3
[07:51] <Slart> hehe.. everyone together now =)
[07:51] <Agrajag> Exal: So instead of running telnetd all the time, you're running xinetd and when you connect to port 23, xinetd spawns telnetd and connects you.
[07:51] <Kronuz> psusi, which one should I get and how should I install it?
[07:52] <christoph_> ok,  uname -a says "Linux mystique 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP"
[07:52] <ks1> Slart, for me it is. There are some annoying things though. My wireless card doesnt work properly with network-manager, hal policy changed but it should be back to normal for the release
[07:52] <Exal> Agrajag: thanks
[07:52] <arrow> I'm trying to invoke a script I just wrote, can anyone tell me why it won't work?
[07:52] <arrow> root@arrow-desktop:~# ./home/arrow/Cleanup3
[07:52] <Kronuz> psusi, (I'm really really new to this)
[07:52] <AlexC_> arrow define "wont work"
[07:52] <arrow> -bash: ./home/arrow/Cleanup3: No such file or directory
[07:52] <Slart> ks1: hmm.. I think I'll stick with the "if it aint broken..."-policy a bit more... =)
[07:52] <Jowi> christoph_, do you have the same problem if you boot 2.6.17-10-generic?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> arrow,  you dont need the .
[07:52] <christoph_> yes
[07:52] <Dr_willis> arrow,  and you need to be srue its 'executable;
[07:53] <Dr_willis> ./scriptincurrentdir
[07:53] <erUSUL> arrow: clearly the path is wrong why do you begin an absolut path with a . ??
[07:53] <Dr_willis>  /path/to/the/script
[07:53] <ks1> Slart, hehe okay :) fine by me. I do it to report bugs and help better the population. Also helps to report for your hardware :)
[07:53] <psusi> Kronuz: I think this one: http://librarian.launchpad.net/4930804/dmraid_0.9.9%2B1.0.0.rc13-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:53] <Slart> arrow: you can try with "sh /home/arrow/Cleanup3"
[07:53] <andios> soundray: got that?
[07:53] <arrow> ok
[07:53] <owner> the page does not load at all. it keeps saying loading but doesn't load. it time-out after 2 minutes
[07:53] <Slart> ks1: ah.. nice to know someone does the dirty work ;)
[07:54] <arrow> I'm reading a site http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/invoking.html and thats why I used the .
[07:54] <Exal> Agrajag: in the telnetd file on xinetd user = root, what does this mean?
[07:54] <Kronuz> ad then how do I install a .deb ?
[07:54] <Tomcat_> Slart: I wouldn't use feisty as production system... it *is* stable, sometimes more than edgy, but there are times when everything falls apart (kernel, X, Python, we had everything) :)
[07:54] <erUSUL> arrow: either you use /home/arrow/Cleanup3 or assumong you are in your home ./Cleanup3
[07:54] <psusi> Kronuz: download it and run sudo dpkg -i dmraidxxxx.deb
[07:54] <owner> i made a test.php file and put it in /var/www when i put http://localhost/test.php it will not load the page.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> arrow,  you miss understood part of it then. :)
[07:54] <Agrajag> Exal: It means telnetd runs as root.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> arrow,  or they got a nasty typo somewhere.
[07:54] <christoph_> i even tried unloading the modules for usb hci support in an ssh shell, but the same thing keeps happening
[07:54] <Jowi> christoph_, is the problem only in X or in the console as well (if you boot into single user mode for example)?
[07:54] <psusi> Kronuz: with the xxx appropriately replaced with the full name of the file
[07:54] <eilker> i am not sure what i installed xgl or aixgl , how can i know it ?
[07:54] <Agrajag> Exal: It has to to allow people to log in.
[07:54] <ks1> Slart, ive built linux from scratch and a lot of other things so i have a bit of knowledge and am able to run the testing stuff.
[07:54] <christoph_> in the console as well
[07:54] <arrow> ok thx all
[07:54] <AlexC_> owner: #apache #php
[07:54] <Kronuz> psusi, thanks
[07:54] <christoph_> but not in a remote session via ssh
[07:54] <Exal> Agrajag: thanks
[07:54] <AlexC_> owner: just because you're using Ubuntu doesn't mean it's a Ubuntu support question =)
[07:55] <Jowi> christoph_, does it make a difference if you plug it into another usb-port (shouldn't make a difference)?
[07:55] <soundray> andios: got it (sorry doorbell)
[07:55] <Quattro> maybe u can help me with this, how can i get my mouse scroll work?
[07:55] <Kronuz> hmm it did something :)
[07:55] <andios> soundray: okay
[07:55] <Kronuz> now I have the files at /dev/mapper
[07:55] <AlexC_> owner: but anyway, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:55] <Kronuz> but I have four nvidia_xxxxxx
[07:55] <christoph_> no, it doesn't
[07:55] <Kronuz> (I only have two arrays)
[07:55] <ephemeros> hey
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Quattro, what kind of mouse? every machine ive isntalled to - the mouse wheel works.
[07:55] <Jowi> christoph_, do you have other usb devices plugged in (usbkey, headset etc)?
[07:56] <andios> soundray: could you check it out? I'll be back in 5 minutes
[07:56] <Quattro> creative
[07:56] <arrow> Dr_willis: it worked without the . thx alot
[07:56] <psusi> Kronuz: does each array have 2 partitions on it?
[07:56] <christoph_> as i said, it even happens if the keyboard is disconnected
[07:56] <soundray> andios: I have
[07:56] <Hattori> want to start 2 programs at boot time.. how can i? or put them in crontab.. how?
[07:56] <andios> soundray: thanks, brb
[07:56] <Dr_willis> arrow,  now do you understand WHY it worked?
[07:56] <Kronuz> psusi, just one, I believe
[07:56] <Jowi> christoph_, do you have a remote control ?
[07:56] <ephemeros> *what's the switch/flag for the 'find' command to override the "Permission Denied" warnings?*
[07:56] <soundray> Hattori: best to call them from /etc/rc.local
[07:56] <shatrat> Hattori, you could just add them to the Sessions -> Startup Programs list
[07:56] <Kronuz> psusi, they're NTFS partitions (Windows XP and Vista's)
[07:56] <AlexC_> !sudo | ephemeros
[07:56] <ephemeros> ...i can't find it in the man
[07:56] <ubotu> ephemeros: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:56] <psusi> Kronuz: right... one device is the whole array, the other is the partition.. same for the second array
[07:56] <christoph_> hm, i have a tv tuner card with a remote control
[07:57] <Jowi> christoph_, I've noticed some strange keyboard events with some remote controls...
[07:57] <Kronuz> oh, I see :)
[07:57] <arrow> Dr_willis: the . was a shortcut so I don't have to write /home/arrow?
[07:57] <ephemeros> AlexC_: i want to use my user
[07:57] <Kronuz> psusi, so, I need anything else to mount ntfs in ubuntu?
[07:57] <ephemeros> only
[07:57] <Dr_willis> arrow,  the ',' basicially means LOOK In the current diretory
[07:57] <Dr_willis> arrow,  ~ is a shortcut to /home/arrow
[07:57] <Jowi> christoph_, can you see if you get something like this in /var/log/messages: Mar  6 07:56:00 localhost kernel: [17214205.688000]  keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 0
[07:58] <ramrod> hello! Can anyone help me a wireless problem on ubuntu?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> doh . = current dir.. ! = home dir
[07:58] <soundray> Dr_willis: get it right ;)
[07:58] <hotti> ~ is used as home dir?
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> yes
[07:58] <erUSUL> arrow: . current .. parent dir
[07:58] <soundray> hotti: it's a variable recognized by most shells
[07:59] <felipeee> X_Force Hello X_Force
[07:59] <Kronuz> whoohoo!
[07:59] <christoph_> no, but there's a lot of strange messages saying: "Mar  6 17:59:47 mystique kernel: [17180306.820000]  Pinnacle PCTV: unknown key: key=0x01 raw=0x01 down=0
[07:59] <Kronuz> It's Working! it's Working!
[07:59] <christoph_> "
[07:59] <arrow> ok, I'll put that on a sticky note
[07:59] <Dr_willis> hotti,  try 'cd ~' and see
[07:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:59] <AlexC_> ephemeros: if you're user does not have permission, there is no way of avoiding the "Permission Denied" ... that would defeat the whole purpose of permissions!!
[07:59] <Dr_willis> aticky note? gesh.. not that hard to rember. :)
[07:59] <soundray> hotti: or even 'echo ~'
[07:59] <AlexC_> ephemeros: you have to use Sudo,
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Bash 101 day here on #ubuntu :)
[08:00] <felipeee> Jowi: Hi Jowi
[08:00] <josh415> i want to use Kate or another app to edit PHP files on a webserver that's accessible via ssh/scp/sftp.  should i use Fuse/sshfs?  or, something else?
[08:00] <christoph_> so maybe it's really the tiv tuner card after all
[08:00] <Tonren_> VLC won't display vobsub subtitles.  Can anyone help me?
[08:00] <hotti> dr_willis, soundray: yes i know i just said since some guys were talking about home dirs and .
[08:00] <ramrod> anyone know anything about wireless configuration???
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | ramrod
[08:00] <ubotu> ramrod: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Be it ever so Humble, theres no place like $HOME
[08:00] <Jowi> christoph_, looks similar enough. maybe try to blacklist the pinnacle card module and boot and see if the problem remain. if that solves it, file a bug report ( /msg ubotu bug )
[08:00] <AlexC_> no place like 127.0.0.1
[08:01] <ephemeros> AlexC_: ok, the problem is i don't want to find in the denied folders, just to disable the warnings, because they mess my search :D
[08:01] <Jowi> hello felipeee
[08:01] <felipeee> Jowi: Hoo! how its going?
[08:01] <soundray> ~ sweet ~
[08:01] <christoph_> thanks a lot, now i just have to find out which module
[08:01] <ephemeros> AlexC_: i tried "-nowarn" - no use :(
[08:02] <Jowi> christoph_, btw, how do you use the remote... with lirc or ...? maybe there is a simple keybinding mistake in lircrc
[08:02] <Eudy> what!
[08:02] <Kronuz> psusi, how should I mount my drives in Ubuntu? (as to have them mounted by default on boot)
[08:02] <erUSUL> !ntfs > Kronuz
[08:02] <christoph_> i haven't tried the remote yet, it's a fresh install
[08:02] <techie_> !wine
[08:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:03] <tobiasu> whom do i have to kill for overwriting my bootloader while installing 6.10?
[08:03] <Jowi> christoph_, ah ok.
[08:03] <Kronuz> thanks erUSUL
[08:03] <erUSUL> Kronuz: no problem
[08:03] <christoph_> how do i blacklist a module?
[08:03] <Jowi> if it is a pci card you can check here to see which module it uses: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:04] <soundray> tobiasu: this is a support channel, not a revenge channel
[08:04] <christoph_> i suppose its "saa7134
[08:04] <techie_> anybody here knows how to make Ubuntu Edgy recognize my usb?
[08:04] <erUSUL> christoph_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[08:04] <Jowi> felipeee, busy busy :) need to sit in the sofa to relax in a few minutes. and you?
[08:04] <Tonren_> VLC won't display vobsub subtitles.  Can anyone help me?
[08:04] <felipeee> Jowi: I configured my eth0 to be static and gave all info that he needs...added the default gateway using the IP of the modem, but when i ping an address it says that the host is unreacheable
[08:04] <techie_> I need to transfer audio data via usb cable to computer
[08:04] <nilsl> I try to install php5, but when I try to browse to a php-file (test.php) it can't show it, just ask if I want to download it. What's wrong?
[08:05] <erUSUL> !php
[08:05] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:05] <techie_> All I have is a usb cable from handheld recorder to computer
[08:05] <eXcAliBu> hey all
[08:05] <Jowi> felipeee, does the manual state which ip the modem use?
[08:05] <nilsl> erUSUL: Was that for me?
[08:05] <AlexC_> nilsl: #apache   but also, clear all cache/cookies for you're browser and try again
[08:05] <techie_> I know that usb could be a "pain" in linux
[08:05] <nilsl> AlexC_: It's cleared.
[08:05] <eXcAliBu> guys i need java for ubuntu's ssl explorer for the VPN to work
[08:05] <erUSUL> nilsl: yes take a look there to enable php in apache
[08:05] <Kronuz> !ntfs-3g > Kronuz
[08:05] <nilsl> erUSUL: OK
[08:05] <erUSUL> !java > eXcAliBu
[08:05] <eXcAliBu> any idea how/where i get it?
[08:06] <Jowi> felipeee, maybe you need to physically reset the modem for it to work  (like some d-link ones)...
[08:06] <felipeee> Jowi: in it's configuration page, shows it's IP
[08:06] <erUSUL> eXcAliBu: read the pm from ubotu
[08:06] <andios> soundray: back again
[08:06] <felipeee> Jowi: I've tried it
[08:06] <eXcAliBu> i love you
[08:06] <techie_> !usb
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <Jowi> felipeee, wait, do I understand this correctly. you can enter the modems web config via its ip address but when you use that ip as gateway you can not ping it?
[08:07] <soundray> andios: create a new user test ('sudo adduser test'), then log in as test to see if you still get nautilus crashes.
[08:07] <andios> ok
[08:07] <FurryNemesis> !eduroam
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eduroam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <andios> i have dist-upgrade on
[08:07] <andios> if i log out will it stop?
[08:07] <soundray> andios: if nautilus works with the new user, move your gnome configuration to a safe place -- I'll tell you how:
[08:09] <soundray> andios: select a failsafe session from gdm, log in as antti and 'mkdir gnomeconfbackup ; mv .gconf .gconfd .gnome* gnomeconfbackup'. Then log out & back in choosing a normal gnome session
[08:09] <qbert> Im looking for some pdf tools on linux, specifically i need pdf to jpg, anyone know of anything ?
[08:09] <felipeee> Jowi: No, to enter in it's conf page i use another pc...running WinXp...when i put the cable it's connect to the ISP automatically, just wait some seconds and the internet is on my hands lol, when i plug the cable of linux pc, the eth0 connect is RUNNING but don't receive any packages and can't reach any host
[08:09] <andios> soundray: no, it doesnt work on test-user
[08:10] <soundray> qbert: I think you have to go via PS and PNM to jpg
[08:10] <qbert> PDF->PS->JPG ?
[08:10] <christoph_> w00t! blacklisting the saa modules really did the trick!
[08:10] <christoph_> amazing
[08:10] <soundray> andios: same failure? Same errors in ~test-user/.xsession-errors
[08:10] <christoph_> thank you guys, you've been a big help
[08:10] <soundray> qbert: PDF -> PS -> PNM -> JPG
[08:11] <Wanderer> hmm, I found a 2gig USB drive at work.  When I stick it in a system it shows a 218Meg file system.  The output of "fdisk -l" has some odd partitioning.  Anyone know how to see what else might be on the drive?
[08:11] <Jowi> felipeee, that means that the modem is in bridged mode. when in windows, the OS make the connection. you should give a call to your modem support to see how to set up the DHCP in it. if a reset of the modem does not help maybe it's faulty or in a need of a firmware upgrade.
[08:11] <soundray> qbert: you need xpdf-utils and netpbm (and possibly imagemagick)
[08:12] <qbert> cool checking
[08:12] <opetznick_> how to setup the hostname based on the dhcp dns hostname?
[08:12] <andios> soundray: test's errorlog is different
[08:12] <techie_> !wine > techie
[08:12] <felipeee> Jowi: I will try to upgrade it's firmware...then i came back here...
[08:12] <soundray> andios: do you want to paste that, too?
[08:12] <andios> soundray: and it is damn big
[08:12] <techie_> !wine
[08:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:12] <andios> ok
[08:12] <felipeee> Jowi: Thank you
[08:13] <soundray> andios: anything that makes sense to you?
[08:13] <soundray> andios: actually, wait a second...
[08:13] <andios> hmm
[08:13] <soundray> andios: did your upgrade ever finish?
[08:13] <andios> dist-upgrade?
[08:14] <Jowi> felipeee, np. usually it is only possible to get into a modems config if its dhcp is set up. a reset usually does the trick.
[08:14] <andios> soundray: yes i think, last night
[08:14] <andios> right now im updating it again
[08:14] <andios> if it works
[08:14] <techie_> Anyone! How do I figure out the wines version I hae installed in my system?
[08:14] <andios> soundray: I'll let it upgrade first?
[08:14] <Jowi> techie_, wine --version
[08:14] <techie_> Thanks Jowi
[08:15] <soundray> andios: yes, and when done, make sure you have ubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies completely installed
[08:15] <AMD-> how do i use the mount --force option ?
[08:15] <Kronuz> hey, what program did you say it's a graphical diff?
[08:15] <kernel_geek> My problem: I have followed a guide on how to install nvmixer and configure oss. I can get sound from every speaker except center and sub. How do I get these to work. So that when I play an mp3 in totem i get cloned 5.1 ??
[08:15] <AMD-> $ sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[08:15] <AMD-> Volume is dirty.
[08:15] <AMD-> Run chkdsk and try again, or use the --force option.
[08:15] <AMD-> Mount failed.
[08:15] <abelstr> AMD-: sudo mount --force /dev/hdb1
[08:15] <abelstr> ?
[08:15] <AMD-> nah
[08:15] <Jowi> techie_, you can also use "apt-cache policy packagename"
[08:15] <soundray> andios: 'sudo apt-get -f install' should not return any errors. It's not worth continuing diagnostics if your packages don't fit together yet
[08:15] <Kronuz> also, how can I have an indexed database to search all my files (like windows' WDS or Google Desktop)
[08:15] <Agrajag> AMD-: is this an ntfs volume?
[08:16] <kernel_geek>  My problem: I have followed a guide on how to install nvmixer and configure oss. I can get sound from every speaker except center and sub. How do I get these to work. So that when I play an mp3 in totem i get cloned 5.1 ??
[08:16] <AMD-> yeh
[08:16] <Pici> !beagle | Kronuz
[08:16] <ubotu> kronuz: beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[08:16] <andios> soundray: okay, I must wait 20 mins becouse dist-upgrade is on
[08:16] <Agrajag> AMD-: Do you have windows installed?
[08:16] <AMD-> yes
[08:16] <killown> how I do to see how many frames my video card process?
[08:16] <techie_> Jowi is the 0.9.32 version different than wine-hq? If no, and if I have to upgrade should I erase the 0.9.2 before installing the update?
[08:16] <Agrajag> AMD-: You really should boot windows and check the disk before trying to force-mount it.
[08:16] <MrEgg964> Hi, I'm trying to mound a windows network drive. I can see the drive, but special caracters (accents, like  or ) are not being displayed. What can I do about it ?
[08:16] <AMD-> not possable
[08:16] <Agrajag> ?
[08:16] <Kronuz> and now that I have my RAIDs working, I can finally remove the spare disk and move everything to my RAID disk
[08:17] <kernel_geek>  My problem: I have followed a guide on how to install nvmixer and configure oss. I can get sound from every speaker except center and sub. How do I get these to work. So that when I play an mp3 in totem i get cloned 5.1 ??
[08:17] <AMD-> but i will try
[08:17] <Agrajag> Why is it not possible?
[08:17] <kernel_geek> Sa,ba
[08:17] <Kronuz> is there a way I can copy everything to a new partition in my raid?
[08:17] <soundray> killown: use the benchmark mode that some games offer
[08:17] <Kronuz> or will I need to reinstall EVERYTHING again? :S
[08:17] <kernel_geek> *samba has not been setup for that
[08:17] <killown> soundray how I do it?
[08:17] <kernel_geek> Its just how the smb protocol is
[08:17] <kernel_geek>  My problem: I have followed a guide on how to install nvmixer and configure oss. I can get sound from every speaker except center and sub. How do I get these to work. So that when I play an mp3 in totem i get cloned 5.1 ??
[08:17] <killown> I want to use glxgears --print more anything
[08:17] <AMD-> the ntfs is an old xp OS  i used to used ...........................
[08:18] <soundray> !repeat > kernel_geek
[08:18] <killown> I dont remember
[08:18] <hypn0> anyone installed gossip0.23, I get a libc6 dependency isssue, but I got libc6 2.3.6 installed already, any advice?
[08:18] <abelstr> killown: glxgears --printfps
[08:18] <killown> abelstr, thanks a lot
[08:18] <techie_> Jowi, i think the 0.9.32 is the latest!
[08:18] <techie_> I sort of answer my own question
[08:18] <andios> MrEgg964: do you have wrong charset or somethign
[08:18] <kernel_geek> !repeat
[08:18] <killown> Warrning: unknown parameter: --printfps
[08:18] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:18] <christoph_> thanks again for you help, i need to be going now
[08:18] <killown> abelstr, unknow parameter
[08:18] <AMD-> i will try to check disk
[08:18] <soundray> abelstr: please recommend "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" instead
[08:18] <_cerberus_> does anyone know how to fix a kernel (vanilla 2.6.19.7) which fails to boot, it freezes just after or during loading usbhid
[08:19] <abelstr> killown: glxgears -printfps
[08:19] <abelstr> killown: and soundray is right
[08:19] <kernel_geek> yeah upgrade
[08:19] <soundray> killown: try "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" instead
[08:19] <kernel_geek> or downgrade
[08:19] <AMD-> also the data i have is not very sensitive "dont need it that much
[08:19] <killown> soundray,  thank ouy
[08:19] <killown> you*
[08:20] <dream_> help :)
[08:20] <kernel_geek>  My problem: I have followed a guide on how to install nvmixer and configure oss. I can get sound from every speaker except center and sub. How do I get these to work. So that when I play an mp3 in totem i get cloned 5.1 ??
[08:20] <abelstr> soundray: ...it even works.
[08:20] <abelstr> ...
[08:20] <soundray> kernel_geek: there's no point repeating this every two minutes
[08:20] <kernel_geek> ok sorry :D
[08:20] <kernel_geek> !repeat
[08:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:21] <xelados> !patience
[08:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:21] <MrEgg964> andios: yes, most likely. I'm trying to correct that, but I don't know how.
[08:21] <slv> how do i mount .mds files?
[08:21] <slv> .mdf i mean
[08:21] <alligator> hi i'm trying to connect ubuntu.fr
[08:21] <kernel_geek> mount -o loop or something
[08:21] <soundray> slv: convert to iso with mdf2iso
[08:21] <andios> MrEgg964: tried utf-8
[08:21] <erUSUL> slv: you can not try to find a program that can convert it to an iso
[08:21] <eilker> kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 , this may conflict ? i cant get login screen, (EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available. // but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment
[08:22] <kernel_geek> i will get back to the .mdf problem
[08:22] <soundray> !iso > slv, read ubotu's pm
[08:22] <MrEgg964> andios: I'm trying to display French characters. Is there a mount option I can use to specify that ?
[08:22] <kernel_geek> !patience
[08:22] <abelstr> kernel_geek: impossible, need to convert it first
[08:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:22] <kernel_geek> nup
[08:22] <kernel_geek> !patience
[08:22] <kernel_geek> mount image.mdf /wheretomount -o loop=/dev/loop0
[08:23] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: codepage or nls or something like that check the man page for mount
[08:23] <MrEgg964> So far, I'm using the following command : mount -t smbfs -o username=xxx,password=xxx,nls=iso8859-1 //server_name/PixCenter /mnt/PixCenter
[08:23] <kernel_geek> mount image.mdf /wheretomount -o loop=/dev/loop0
[08:23] <erUSUL> kernel_geek: that only works with iso images
[08:23] <kernel_geek> No check here my proof :D http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[08:23] <jcole> does the nvidia driver not work with smp?
[08:24] <abelstr> kernel_geek: great tip!
[08:24] <kernel_geek> mdf2iso as well here:http://mdf2iso.berlios.de/
[08:24] <kernel_geek> converts
[08:24] <kernel_geek> if you want that is
[08:24] <soundray> kernel_geek: please don't point to source pages for software that is available in ubuntu packages
[08:24] <soundray> !info mdf2iso
[08:24] <ubotu> mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[08:25] <kernel_geek> Ok did not know it was available
[08:25] <kernel_geek> soz
[08:26] <felipeee> Jowi: Nothing
[08:26] <felipeee> Jowi: No connection
[08:27] <Jowi> kernel_geek, i have no real experience with this but I would guess that if you need oss for 5.1 surround you might need to set the outputsink to oss in gnome-sound-properties.
[08:27] <Xenocide> has anyone setup beryl so that a virtual machine can be full screen on one virtual desktop?
[08:27] <kernel_geek> done that
[08:27] <slv> soundray: when i type in that command just as shown i get this:
[08:27] <slv> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:27] <Neil3> hey all, does anyone know if using the restricted formats (like decss, mp3, mpeg2 etc) is legal in the UK?
[08:28] <Jowi> kernel_geek, and you have run nvmixer to set the 5.1 as well?
[08:28] <kernel_geek> yup :D
[08:28] <omegacenti> I cannot hear sound on this page: http://doscastlevaniaforthlevel.ytmnd.com/. I have followed the restricted codecs pack, but might I be missing something?
[08:28] <kernel_geek> There is not that option in gnome-ousnd-propoties
[08:28] <kernel_geek> is it flash
[08:28] <kernel_geek> ??
[08:28] <qfour20> I'm having some trouble getting my fresh ubuntu installation to boot properly.  It's a rather interesting setup, as I am trying to use the bios' "select boot device" menu to boot my installation instead of using my software raid that windows is installed on (nforce4 board).
[08:28] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: yes.
[08:29] <tritoch> i think its quicktime
[08:29] <kernel_geek> ok one sec i know fix
[08:29] <felipeee> who is X_Force?
[08:29] <Chade> Hi
[08:29] <omegacenti> tritoch:  you sure? and if it is... is there a fix?
[08:29] <tritoch> no idea, just popped it open in ff on win and it said i needed quicktime plugin
[08:29] <qfour20> I finally got grub isntalled while booted from the livecd and the disk I was using was seen as /dev/hda4 (hd3,3).  Now when i try to boot, the partition isn't found.
[08:29] <NetCrime> anybody can tel sum video/music IRC servers?
[08:30] <omegacenti> doh
[08:30] <Chade> Anyone mind giving me a little more help with my Ubuntu installation? Managed to get a version installed onto my machine and dual  boot working properly
[08:30] <Chade> But Ubuntu freezes after 5 minutes of use and I have to power down
[08:30] <acidoascorbico> hola
[08:30] <acidoascorbico> tengo un problemilla... alguien sabe como se llama el pakete que al pusar alt+f2 sale la pantalla el ejecutar programa de gnome?
[08:30] <kernel_geek> follow this link (guy with flash problem) see the note:
[08:30] <kernel_geek> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:30] <qfour20> I've gone into grub and edited the config and tried to boot and discovered that now the disk I'm wanting is (hd0,2).  It tries to boot and uncompresses the kernel and I get a splash screen, but nothing beyond that.  Anybody have ideas?
[08:31] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: Only problem is its quicktime.
[08:31] <omegacenti> Sorry for misinformation
[08:31] <kernel_geek> i thought you said it was flash ??
[08:31] <omegacenti> yeah I was wrong.
[08:31] <kernel_geek> qfour*: add this to kernel command line root=/dev/hda3
[08:31] <acidoascorbico> i have a problem. i would like what is the name of the package "alt+f2" in gnome  (scuseme for mi bad english, i from spain)
[08:32] <Pici> !es > acidoascorbico
[08:32] <kernel_geek> ok one sec
[08:32] <Jowi> kernel_geek, maybe you need to make an alias in /etc/modprobe.d/something for your sound card to use nvsound. but that is a total guess from my side based on nothing but feelings :)
[08:32] <kernel_geek> No nvsound loaded
[08:32] <qfour20> kernel_geek: I'll try that.  hope to be back soon from inside my fresh install.
[08:32] <mr_hus> where exactly is the system crontab file?
[08:32] <kernel_geek> replace /dev/hda3 with correct disk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:33] <omegacenti> Having issues with my wireless card... any good howtos? Im am trying to read the one supplied with ubuntu.. maybe another?
[08:33] <erUSUL> !wifi | omegacenti
[08:33] <ubotu> omegacenti: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:33] <omegacenti> Thanks ubotu!
[08:33] <kernel_geek> Nvsound loaded in 5.1 except no center
[08:33] <omegacenti> err erUSUL
[08:33] <andios> omegacenti: it's a bot ;)
[08:33] <omegacenti> I noticed as soon as I hit tab haahahaha
[08:33] <Chade> Anyone have any idea as to why a fresh install of Ubuntu would freeze after five mins of use?
[08:34] <kernel_geek> No drivers
[08:34] <Chade> Running the AMD64 version
[08:34] <kernel_geek> Install drivers
[08:34] <Chade> Ahhh drivers missing?
[08:34] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: got anything for quicktime substitute?
[08:34] <kernel_geek> That will speed up
[08:34] <Kronuz_> hey
[08:34] <kernel_geek> I am looking one sec
[08:34] <savvas> is medubuntu discontinued?
[08:34] <erUSUL> Chade: no, but check the logs in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[08:34] <Kronuz_> I have a problem... my Ubuntu freezed
[08:35] <Kronuz_> is there a way I can do anything? this is the second time this happens to me
[08:35] <Chade> erUSUL: Sorry complete linux newbie, how do I go about doing that?
[08:35] <Kronuz_> everythings freezed but the mouse pointer
[08:35] <Chade> erUSUL: Do I want to use recovery mode?
[08:35] <kernel_geek> quickime guy: sudo apt-get install quicktime-utils
[08:35] <Chade> Kronuz_: Having the exact same problem
[08:35] <erUSUL> Chade: System>Admin>System Monitor
[08:35] <Chade> Don't know why it's doing it
[08:35] <SirOSOriS>  g\
[08:36] <abelstr> Kronuz_: check /var/log/messages for strange errors
[08:36] <Chade> erUSUL: Thanks
[08:36] <Kronuz_> but I can't click on anything, etc... (not even the keyboard lock buttons seem to turn on/off any leds)
[08:36] <Chade> erUSUL: Anyway I can check it from the command line without actually entering graphical ubuntu?
[08:36] <Kronuz_> abelstr: but it's frozen
[08:36] <kernel_geek> yes
[08:36] <Kronuz_> I'm in my windows box :P
[08:36] <kernel_geek> tail -f /the/log/
[08:36] <Chade> Same issue I'm having Kronuz_ I'm in mine too
[08:36] <Pici> Kronuz_: Obviously you'll need to reboot and then check the logs
[08:37] <erUSUL> Chade: yes with 'less' 'sudo less /var/log/messages' or 'sudo less /var/log/syslog'
[08:37] <Kronuz_> just press the reset button? :S
[08:37] <Kronuz_> my HDD is working
[08:37] <Kronuz_> for some reason it seems it's half frozen
[08:37] <Chade> Thanks erUSUL
[08:37] <Pici> Kronuz_: Can you get to a tty? ctrl-alt-f1?
[08:37] <Kronuz_> the HHD is doing stuff, etc. (it seems)
[08:37] <abelstr> Kronuz_: if you hit ctrl-alt-F1, does anything happen?
[08:37] <Kronuz_> Pici, nope
[08:37] <Chade> I've been having to Powerdown to get out of it Kronuz_
[08:38] <Kronuz_> I did that yesterday, but my HDD was not having any activity
[08:38] <xelados> What needs to be done to switch fro GNOME to XFCE? I'm downloading all of XFCE's stuff now.
[08:38] <kernel_geek> 1079 people in room
[08:38] <Chade> Going to reset and load Ubuntu will report back if I have any problems
[08:38] <kernel_geek> Anybody from uk :D ??
[08:38] <Chade> Yeah
[08:38] <Pici> Kronuz_: You're pretty much out of luck at that point, unfortunatly
[08:38] <kernel_geek> woot
[08:38] <Kronuz_> :(
[08:38] <Pici> !offtopic > kernel_geek
[08:38] <Chade> I'm a staffordshire lad
[08:38] <kernel_geek> !ooftopic
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ooftopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Kronuz_> I don't suppose SSH is open by default in ubuntu
[08:38] <kernel_geek> !offtopic
[08:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:38] <Kronuz_> so that I can log there from this box
[08:39] <Kronuz_> (or try to)
[08:39] <Pici> Kronuz_: no, its not.
[08:39] <stb> i'm having troube with my beryl manager.  it won't startup automatically from my GNOME session.  My screen goes white if I open it in an XGL session.  is there anyway to start it automatically?
[08:39] <Kronuz_> :(
[08:39] <abelstr> xelados: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[08:39] <Kronuz_> I'll just press reset then
[08:39] <Kronuz_> :S
[08:39] <xelados> abelstr: Thanks a lot!
[08:39] <abelstr> Kronuz: you could boot using the LiveCD, mount the root partition and check the logs
[08:40] <kernel_geek> stb:System>pref>sessions>startup
[08:40] <omegacenti> Im not sure kernel_geek, but I don't think it fixed the problems.  I looked in firefox --> about:plugins and the only one i saw was the totem quicktime movie playing thing.
[08:40] <kernel_geek> om
[08:40] <kernel_geek> k
[08:40] <kernel_geek> ok
[08:40] <kernel_geek> one seec
[08:40] <omegacenti> :)
[08:40] <FurryNemesis> stb, or insert usr/bin/beryl-manager into session startup options
[08:40] <omegacenti> Thanks for the help.
[08:41] <teeL> How can i view page stats like unique visitors on my webserver?
[08:41] <Malph> trying to boot to the edgy_ppc_server installation disc and I keep getting the "white screen of death" even when I use the video=ofonly switch
[08:41] <Kronuz_> abelstr, too late :S
[08:41] <Kronuz_> I already booted without it
[08:41] <kernel_geek> quicktime: sudo apt-get install libquicktime
[08:41] <stb> thx
[08:41] <kernel_geek> restart firefox
[08:41] <Chade> I got the freeze problem within livecd once
[08:42] <abelstr> Kronuz_: try 'cat /var/log/dmesg.0'
[08:42] <Chade> Well will go and see if I can get a log
[08:42] <Kronuz_> abelstr, can I still see the errors in /var/log/messages
[08:42] <eilker>  apt-extracttemplates unsuccessful ??? what is this ?
[08:42] <Kronuz_> abelstr, checking
[08:42] <Kronuz_> brb from my Linux box in a sec
[08:42] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: Couldn't find package libquicktime.
[08:43] <kernel_geek> you need to open ectra repositories
[08:43] <Malph> I also get the wsod when booting the ppc desktop livecd on the same g4 is there something I need to update on the system to get the livecds to run
[08:43] <Exal> hi, does anyone knows how to do a scp to a specific port
[08:43] <kernel_geek> *extra
[08:43] <omegacenti> I have all the ones in synaptics package manager --> repositories checked.
[08:43] <abelstr> Exal: scp -P port
[08:44] <kernel_geek> quicktime: follow this just in case: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:44] <Kronuz> back
[08:44] <omegacenti> Will do.
[08:44] <kernel_geek> What is the exact problem just no sound ??
[08:44] <Exal> hehehe thanks abelstr, I have tried with -p
[08:44] <omegacenti> yeah. no sound
[08:44] <kernel_geek> ok hmmm yeah try that then
[08:44] <Kronuz> ... okay, doing cat /var/log/dmesg.0'
[08:44] <omegacenti> I can see the image, just no sound at this website: http://doscastlevaniaforthlevel.ytmnd.com/
[08:45] <Kronuz> what should I check there?
[08:45] <omegacenti> If you get sound then I am unique.
[08:45] <Pici> FYI: The library name is libquicktime0 , not libquicktime.
[08:45] <abelstr> Kronuz: errors near the end of it, when you rebooted it.
[08:46] <daraknor> I booted up a LiveCD and it sits with brown background, X Window open, mouse, but no icons, no ctrl-alt-F1 for switching, etc
[08:46] <debian_> im trying to setup a webcam that is supose to use the spca5xx module, i heard that it was enabled by default in edgy and later versions, but i was
[08:46] <debian_> curious about how to pass paramaters to tit
[08:47] <Kronuz> abelstr, how come is the '.0' and not other?
[08:47] <abelstr> Kronuz_: that should be the log from past session, which locked up
[08:47] <debian_> like how i would normally do 'sudo modprobe spca50x usbgrabber=1'
[08:47] <omegacenti> Pici: Is that my only problem?
[08:47] <Kronuz> oh
[08:47] <rellik> I am having a weird problem that has started just recently..  I don't use my ubuntu box much, except as a file/SSH server..  lately it has been freezing a lot..  it will freeze, and I will do a hard reboot (SysRq-SUB doesn't work). it will come up just fine and then sit there for a while..  then (a couple hours later) it will freeze again..  over and over for the past week..  is there a global error log or some other place to start
[08:47] <rellik>  looking?
[08:47] <omegacenti> Pici: So If I do that then it should work? but what about firefox?
[08:47] <kernel_geek> ok yeah soz libquicktime0
[08:47] <Kronuz> abelstr, so every time I restart all logs get a new number?
[08:48] <abelstr> rellik_: /var/log/messages
[08:48] <daraknor> rellik, have you done a memory check?
[08:48] <kernel_geek> then restart firefox
[08:48] <abelstr> Kronuz_: yes
[08:48] <rellik> daraknor, nope..  how?
[08:48] <omegacenti> command again?
[08:48] <kernel_geek> just reatart it
[08:48] <kernel_geek> yup
[08:48] <rellik> abelstr, lemme check
[08:48] <kernel_geek> but with the 0
[08:48] <omegacenti> I mean could you post again, it just went past my history
[08:48] <P-K> Will 6.10 eventually have TLS?
[08:48] <daraknor> rellik, a lot of installation media now has a memory check. Ubuntu 6.10 CD has one I used last night
[08:48] <Tomcat_> P-K: Nope.
[08:48] <omegacenti> !TLS
[08:49] <Tomcat_> P-K: Eh... LTS? TLS?
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <Kronuz> abelstr, so .4 becomes .5, .3 becomes .4.... and dmsg becomes dmesg.0 and a new dmesg is created?
[08:49] <abelstr> !LTS
[08:49] <P-K> haha yeah
[08:49] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:49] <abelstr> Kronuz_: Yes, like that.
[08:49] <chade1> hi again, managed to steal my GF's laptop so I can talk to you guys while I try and fix this problem with Ubuntu
[08:49] <Kronuz> oh
[08:49] <kernel_geek> sudo apt-get install libquicktime0
[08:49] <Tomcat_> P-K: I think feisty+1 will be LTS again, but I might be mistaken.
[08:49] <omegacenti> thanks kernel_geek!
[08:49] <Kronuz> abelstr, is that for *all* the logs or just dmesg?
[08:49] <P-K> So I should only use 6.10 for dev ?
[08:49] <kernel_geek> did it work then ??
[08:49] <daraknor> I booted up a LiveCD and it sits with brown background, X Window open, mouse, but no icons, no ctrl-alt-F1 for switching, etc Any ideas on troubleshooting so I can Live booted? I tried verifying the media but the screen never said anything.
[08:49] <slippyr4> hi all. i've just noticed that my sound has stopped working. no errors, just silence. edgy install, acer laptop. where do i start investigating this?
[08:49] <chade1> where was I supposed to go to get that log?
[08:49] <Tomcat_> P-K: For dev?
[08:50] <abelstr> Kronuz: that should be for all logs that have multiple instances in /var/log, like Xorg.log
[08:50] <omegacenti> already have the newest version installed.
[08:50] <P-K> I mean just for development.
[08:50] <kernel_geek> argghhhh hmmmm ...
[08:50] <Tomcat_> P-K: If you need an absolutely stable system, get dapper.
[08:50] <abelstr> ...or Debian.
[08:50] <rellik> can I grep /var/log/messages for anything general? I tried 'error' without luck
[08:50] <AxeZ> hey dudes, anyone driving feisty?
[08:50] <Tomcat_> P-K: If you need something that will run okay, but is still new enough, get edgy.
[08:50] <Kronuz> abelstr, and it's always on start when the log numbers are pushed?
[08:50] <LjL> !feisty > AxeZ    (AxeZ, see the private message from Ubotu)
[08:50] <omegacenti> still nothing in regards to restarting firefox.
[08:50] <abelstr> Kronuz: when the syslog starts, if I'm not mistaken
[08:51] <P-K> ok thanks.
[08:51] <Tomcat_> P-K: I run edgy on all production systems. :o
[08:51] <AxeZ> II am well aware of that
[08:51] <AxeZ> I was wondering if anyone is testing prerelease
[08:51] <Kronuz> abelstr, oh... anyway, checking the dmesg, I dound some Buffer I/O errors
[08:51] <Kronuz> in my sda1 device, it says
[08:51] <kernel_geek> imegaceni (prtivate window)
[08:51] <LjL> AxeZ, have you tried reading the *entire* message i gave you? it's about two lines of text.
[08:51] <P-K> I run it a couple production systems as well. And it gets updates so I was just wondering what the difference was.
[08:51] <kernel_geek> *om...
[08:51] <abelstr> Kronuz: ah, that's interesting. Might be just what you're looking for.
[08:52] <abelstr> Kronuz: not sure though
[08:52] <yurimxpxman> hey, what's the X11 alternative to Alt+Numlock for ASCII codes in Windows?
[08:52] <Kronuz> Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 36305904
[08:52] <P-K> sorry I can't type today.
[08:52] <Kronuz> and there are several like those scatered
[08:53] <chade1> Sorry going to have to ask you to start from the beginning
[08:53] <kernel_geek> quicktime: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:53] <chade1> What should I be looking for in the way of errors in the System Monitor?
[08:53] <kernel_geek> then retart
[08:53] <kernel_geek> Thats it
[08:53] <omegacenti> one sec.. need to register
[08:53] <kernel_geek> defo
[08:53] <kernel_geek> *restart fireox
[08:53] <abelstr> Kronuz: and the very last entries, nothing suspicious?
[08:54] <omegacenti> alright I will try that.
[08:54] <Kronuz> abelstr, I don't think there are any other errors beside those and a few others saying "device-mapper: dm-stripe: Target length not divisible by chunk size"
[08:55] <mrtimdog> Hello
[08:55] <yurimxpxman> hey, what's the X11 alternative to Alt+Numlock for ASCII codes in Windows?
[08:55] <mrtimdog> I've just been playing around with usb mounts and autorun scripts. Is there a way of avoiding the question of running it or not on automount?
[08:55] <yurimxpxman> *Alt+Numpad numbers I mean
[08:56] <abelstr> mrtimdog: you can disable it under System> Preferences> something with removable media
[08:57] <Kronuz> abelstr, look, these are my last lines in dmesg.0 ... http://pastebin.ca/384036
[08:57] <kernel_geek> quicktime: did it work ??
[08:58] <chade1> kernal_geek: Should I be looking at the error_log in /var/log/cups?
[08:58] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: LOL, well, the lugins are showing up in about:plugins, but still no sound
[08:58] <slippyr4> what window manager am i using if i'm out-the-box edgy plain-ubuntu gnome?
[08:58] <mrtimdog> abelstr; Thanks, but that just disables/enables the autorun, not disable/enable the security question which appears when the drive is mounted.
[08:58] <Kronuz> hey, do you think there's a way I can just copy everything to my RAID after creating some free space for Ubuntu?
[08:58] <kernel_geek> unmute your speakers ??
[08:58] <Pici> slippyr4: Yes, gnome
[08:58] <omegacenti> I accessed the sound file directly through the page source and it played
[08:58] <erUSUL> slippyr4: metacity
[08:58] <Kronuz> or will I have to reinstall everything again...
[08:58] <kernel_geek> ok so its working
[08:58] <Kronuz> 'cause I got like 300MB yesterday (updates, and stuff)
[08:58] <kernel_geek> was it cups you want logs for ?? Chad ??
[08:58] <omegacenti> no the file is audible sound for sure, but it does not play in firefox.
[08:59] <kernel_geek> ok i know
[08:59] <kernel_geek> how to fix that
[08:59] <slippyr4> erusul thanks
[08:59] <chade1> I was having the same problem as Kronuz_, my Ubuntu was freezing for no reason
[08:59] <Kronuz> yep, freezes for no reason
[08:59] <kernel_geek> no thats the wrong one cups is printing log
[08:59] <chade1> Managed to load it up on my laptop and now I'm trying to track down why
[08:59] <chade1> Ahhh ok
[08:59] <Kronuz> just the mouse pointer was moving
[08:59] <chade1> Which log do I need to be looking in please?
[08:59] <cefx> kernel_geek: I'm guessing you know a lot about kernels?  What's it like to build something from kernel sources alone, from the main kernel site?  Do you know of some tutorials? I want to build a webserver, stripped down.
[08:59] <Kronuz> but not even the keyboard leds changed
[09:00] <chade1> Yeah same problem Kronuz_ mouse would move but nothing else
[09:00] <Kronuz> chadel, also using Edgy?
[09:00] <slippyr4> does anyone here use an alternative theme? i'm not so keen on the brown ubuntu human one. any recommendations?
[09:00] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: Just to clarify, no it didn't work (quicktime guy)
[09:00] <kernel_geek> quicktime guy: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss and then gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[09:00] <Kronuz> chadel, are you using NVIDIA? what about Beryl?
[09:00] <kernel_geek> Ok done that
[09:01] <chade1> kronuz: On an ATi Radeon x1400
[09:01] <chade1> So no NVIDIA
[09:01] <kernel_geek> quicktime guy can we go private please ??
[09:01] <Kronuz> chadel, and what about Beryl?
[09:01] <chade1> No idea what Beryl is I'm afraid
[09:01] <abelstr> slippyr4: I like Industrial
[09:01] <chade1> First foray into Linux
[09:02] <kernel_geek> quicktime guy: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss and then gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[09:02] <Kronuz> chadel, the nice eye candy windows and stuff
[09:02] <chade1> All I know is I downloaded the 6.10 64AMD version and installed it
[09:02] <Kronuz> so I suppose it's not Beryl nor NVIDIA then (the problem)
[09:02] <Kronuz> chadel, are you using RAID drives?
[09:02] <slippyr4> hmmm. just realised themes are a bit more complex cos i'm running beryl + emerald
[09:02] <abelstr> Kronuz: looking at your logs, it seems they do not tell anything about the problem as the errors occurred before X even started
[09:02] <kernel_geek> qfour did it work, you need to replace /de/hda3 with your drive
[09:02] <qfour20> wow... that's really weird.  I need to document this for other users that run into this problem.
[09:02] <qfour20> kernel_geek: sorta
[09:03] <kernel_geek> Siorta ??
[09:03] <Kronuz> abelstr, hmm..
[09:03] <kernel_geek> It worked then ??
[09:03] <qfour20> kernel_geek: I had to put root=/dev/hdd3
[09:03] <Kronuz> abelstr, should I check some other log?
[09:03] <abelstr> Kronuz: maybe that's a good idea
[09:03] <qfour20> with grub looking at (hd0,2)
[09:03] <omegacenti> kernel_geek: are you getting my messages?
[09:03] <kernel_geek> yeah i was gonna say you need to cahnge for correct drive
[09:03] <con-man> what does this mean
[09:03] <con-man> src/Makefile.am:7: variable `noinst_LTLIBRARIES' not defined
[09:03] <con-man> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
[09:03] <kernel_geek> yeah in private
[09:04] <kernel_geek> soz i forgot about you
[09:04] <qfour20> kernel_geek: so, it changes from disk 0 to disk 4 as soon as it picks up the kernel.  my bios must be weird
[09:04] <abelstr> Kronuz: and /var/log/dmesg ?
[09:04] <Kronuz> abelstr, let me post it
[09:04] <kernel_geek> Yeah
[09:04] <chade1> damn frozen again
[09:04] <opetznick_> which package i have to install that i have dig host and those commands?
[09:04] <Defro_G> Hello, anyone can tell me how i can connetc to PC's by the USB Direct Link? anyone do it? (sorry i know my english is so bad)
[09:04] <chade1> Hmm when I pressed ctrl alt f1 it switched to a black screen
[09:05] <chade1> Ok, mind if we start from the beginning?
[09:06] <firulaiz> hola
[09:06] <abelstr> opetznick_: I think it comes with dnsmasq, but apart from that...
[09:06] <chade1> I've loaded Ubuntu, used it in the GUI for about 10 minutes, it just froze on me
[09:06] <firulaiz> alguien
[09:06] <firulaiz> chile
[09:06] <opetznick_> thanks abelstr
[09:06] <firulaiz> o ke hable es espaol
[09:06] <bestadvocate> hello, could anyone tell me how to get the right Meta/Alt key working for bash?
[09:06] <chade1> I've hit ctrl-alt-f1 and switched to a black screen with command line
[09:06] <Pici> !es > firulaiz
[09:06] <janusz> Witam
[09:06] <chade1> Which command do I need to enter to check the logs?
[09:06] <firulaiz> !es
[09:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:07] <abelstr> chade1: 'cat /var/log/messages', for instance
[09:07] <Dougie> hello anyone around to help me? i seem to be having issues with xwindows and my video card
[09:07] <Kronuz> abelstr, http://pastebin.ca/384050
[09:07] <Kronuz> abelstr, bbiaw
[09:07] <Defro_G> firulaiz: yo hablo espa?ol
[09:07] <Jowi> bestadvocate, you need to be a bit more precise. is it an xterm, console or other terminal?
[09:07] <chade1> Thanks abelstr
[09:08] <bestadvocate> Jowi: console
[09:08] <slv> ok stupid question, i figured out how to mount an .iso in a folder with 'mount'... now how do i UNmount it?
[09:08] <Dougie> it starts loading but the picture is all distorted sort of looks pixelated and what not and then a green line goes across the screen and then nothing ever comes up it just freezes on the Ubuntu splash screen. Also when i try to boot the live cd i get an Xwindows Error
[09:08] <varkatope_> my mouse doesnt work anymore, dmesg says: psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout  , does anybody know why?
[09:08] <abelstr> slv: umount 'location'
[09:09] <slv> umount, nice thanks
[09:09] <qfour20> thanks again for the help, kernel_geek
[09:09] <bestadvocate> Jowi: I already figured out how to do it within Gnome :)
[09:09] <guest_> hello can u paste me where to donwload the live cd of ubuntu in italy?
[09:09] <abelstr> varkatope_: I know that error, struggled with it alot. Do you also get 'out-of-sync' errors?
[09:10] <chade1> Going to appologise for being a prat but I just did man sudo_root
[09:10] <chade1> Got a big help file on the sudo command
[09:10] <guest_> i nead to get ubuntu live and im in italy u got url?
[09:10] <chade1> Scrolled down to the bottom
[09:10] <varkatope_> abelstr: in dmesg?
[09:10] <abelstr> varkatope_: yes
[09:10] <chade1> Have a white line which reads END and beeps at me whenever I press enter
[09:10] <Pici> chade1: press q
[09:10] <guest_> !it
[09:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:10] <chade1> How do I get out of it?
[09:10] <chade1> Ah ha
[09:10] <varkatope_> abelstr: no
[09:10] <chade1> Thank you Pici
[09:10] <varkatope_> abelstr: what was your solution?
[09:10] <rickympl> everytime i try to send someone a file in xchat it times out, can anyone help me?
[09:11] <bestadvocate> Dougie: I hope your monitor isnt getting the wrong refresh rate, that could cause hardware problems
[09:11] <LjL> rickympl: you have a router that does NAT.
[09:11] <Jowi> bestadvocate, I think you should use dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[09:11] <Defro_G> Hello, anyone can tell me how i can connetc to PC's by the USB Direct Link? anyone do it? (sorry i know my english is so bad)
[09:11] <Jowi> bestadvocate, sorry,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:11] <bestadvocate> Jowi: ty I shall try that
[09:11] <rickympl> LjL, but i have the ports that i use in xchat, routed in the router
[09:11] <Dougie> hmm...well how can i get it to switch to the command line? was it alt ctrl esc? and what would i do to change the refresh rate...been a while since i've used linux
[09:11] <abelstr> varkatope_: I can't recall exactly. It was a boot parameter though. ...needle in a mountain of grain.
[09:12] <LjL> rickympl: those ports being what, 6667? that's not the port for DCCs
[09:12] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Ethernet over USB? Is that what you mean?
[09:12] <kevin> hello, I need to know if I need  IPC namespaces N/y in my new kernel, im doing make oldconfig
[09:12] <Jowi> bestadvocate, you should get a question about AltGr replacement key
[09:12] <Dougie> ctrl alt backspace....that used to get you to the command line didn't it?
[09:12] <crdlb> Defro_G, like a crossover cable?
[09:12] <abelstr> Dougie: no, GDM restarts X when X dies.
[09:12] <xelados> Question: Since my comp's been giving me problems with dualbooting on one hard drive, couldn't I theoretically install Windows to my second hard drive and then use the BIOS/CMOS to choose which hard drive (and thus OS) to boot at the POST screen?
[09:12] <abelstr> DOugie: use ctrl-alt-F1
[09:12] <Pici> Dougie: No, that kills your xsession
[09:12] <varkatope_> abelstr: but its odd, as it worked for months now without any problems, and from one second to another its dead, even after a reboot or a replug
[09:12] <gyaresu> xelados: Yes.
[09:12] <abelstr> xelados: indeed
[09:12] <Dougie> well ctrl alt f1 isnt working either
[09:12] <kernel_geek> Cant get center or bass in nvsound 5.1 speakers
[09:12] <guest_> hello where can i download ubuntu live cd in italy u have the link?
[09:12] <LjL> rickympl: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/security/fwfaq.html#14
[09:13] <abelstr> varkatope: nothing changed? truly nothing?
[09:13] <kevin> hello, I need to know if I need  IPC namespaces N/y in my new kernel, im doing make oldconfig
[09:13] <gyaresu> xelados: Or install windows to second drive and place an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <xelados> Sweet. So basically it's a poor man's bootloader?
[09:13] <chade1> Hmm if I want to get out of the command space and back into the GUI how do I load it?
[09:13] <xelados> gyaresu: What about the MBR of the second drive?
[09:13] <kernel_geek> gdm
[09:13] <Defro_G> gyaresu: crdlb: I'ts a USB direct Link cable goes on usb port's and make a "network" for 2 pc's
[09:13] <kernel_geek> chade: gdm
[09:13] <varkatope_> abelstr: i also tried another mouse, no i didnt change anything
[09:13] <gyaresu> guest_: http://ubuntu.com/download
[09:13] <rickympl> LjL, im using ports 10051 to 10070 and they r routed to my ip
[09:13] <Defro_G> gyaresu: crdlb: But i don't see nothing
[09:13] <abelstr> chade1:ALt-F7
[09:13] <rickympl> LjL, ill take a look at that, thx
[09:13] <kevin> hello, I need to know if I need  IPC namespaces N/y in my new kernel, im doing make oldconfig
[09:13] <varkatope_> abelstr: i googled for the error, but the results are no help for me
[09:13] <guest_> thanx
[09:13] <chade1> Thanks abelstr
[09:14] <chade1> Hmm interesting
[09:14] <abelstr> varkatope: yes, I found out when I had such a problem myself.
[09:14] <abelstr> varkatope: the boot parameter was: i8042.nomux
[09:14] <gyaresu> xelados: I have windows on it's own drive for that reason. If you have grub on the linux drive and set it to be the boot drive then when it loads grub and passes over to windows, everythings fine. xp doesn't get messed with.
[09:15] <chade1> I can do ctrl-alt-f1 and alt-f7 to switch between command line and GUI but when I enter the GUI all I can do is move the mouse
[09:15] <LjL> rickympl: then it ought to work, if your IRC client is really using those ports... you aren't using some firewalling software or something like that?
[09:15] <frojnd> does anyone know where are saved logs for kopete (msn)
[09:15] <xelados> gyaresu: Ah. So no modification of Windows is necessary?
[09:15] <Jowi> bestadvocate, let me know if you got it working
[09:15] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Is this a special usb cable? Some device you bought? or Just a standard one?
[09:15] <bestadvocate> Jowi: encoding should be utf 8 right?
[09:15] <rickympl> LjL, i have nothing, at least i dont think so
[09:15] <Jowi> bestadvocate, yep
[09:15] <Dougie> ok i just loaded it in recovery mode...so how would i check to see what the refresh rate is set to?
[09:15] <bestadvocate> Jowi: cool
[09:16] <LjL> rickympl, try sending me a random file
[09:16] <gyaresu> xelados: none.
[09:16] <grndslm> hey...i just happened to stumble upon a *buncha* pr0n...how do i find out what codecs i need to play them...avi, some type of ms-video shiznit
[09:16] <Defro_G> gyaresu: yes it's a special cable the same conectors in both sides, (i hope you understand me)
[09:16] <xelados> gyaresu: Sweet. I think I'll try that out now.
[09:16] <gyaresu> xelados: Saves 'rescue'ing xp and FIXMBR etc.
[09:16] <chade1> any command into ubunt which mirrors windows alt-tab to switch between screens?
[09:16] <MKR> Dougie, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Refresh
[09:17] <chade1> Or anyway to navigate around the screen without a mouse?
[09:17] <LjL> rickympl: it's trying to send to port 10051 indeed
[09:17] <xelados> gyaresu: What do you mean by saves? Meaning you don't have to bother with that crap?
[09:17] <abelstr> chade1: alt-tab between windows, ctrl-alt- left or right to switch between workspaces
[09:17] <MKR> or not
[09:17] <xelados> I'll be right back, switching to XFCE.
[09:18] <chade1> Ok all the key commands are working
[09:18] <chade1> Perhaps its just an issue with my mousepad?
[09:18] <chade1> I can alt-tab between pages
[09:18] <chade1> ctrl-alt-right/left between workspaces
[09:18] <rickympl> LjL, so wut else might be wrong? iptables?
[09:18] <chade1> wihout a problem
[09:18] <grndslm> if i've got w32codecs installed, is there anything else i'd need to install to get avi vid working in either mplayer, xine, or vlc??  or if a video doesn't play with one of those 3, it's gotta be some kinda malware?
[09:18] <gyaresu> xelados: If you unplug the linux drive then install xp normally on a second drive then plug xp back in and set bios to boot to linux, you will be able to change the menu.lst file and from then on just choose which os to chose from grub. xp will have no idea. (Unless of course you install the ext3 drivers for windows ;)
[09:18] <chade1> Hmm my mouse is working again now
[09:18] <abelstr> chade1: if you open a terminal, using alt-F1 to open the menu, and type 'dmesg', does it say something about a mouse
[09:18] <abelstr> ?
[09:19] <Dougie> ok i don't see anything about refresh rate..... Says depth 1 depth 4,8,15 and some resolution modes
[09:19] <LjL> rickympl: if you've never added any rules to iptables, no
[09:19] <gyaresu> grndslm: No malware in linux.
[09:19] <gyaresu> !codecs | chade1
[09:19] <ubotu> chade1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <abelstr> Dougie: there's a section with Horizontal Refresh and Vertical Refresh
[09:19] <rickympl> LjL, nope
[09:19] <LjL> rickympl: i'm portscanning you by the way - no harm intended of course, i'm just trying to see if i can find a clue
[09:19] <rickympl> LjL, k
[09:20] <LycanNyc-work> im tryin to get my ipod to be writable anyone knows?
[09:20] <chade1> Gives me an absolutely massive file, and my mouse has started working again strangely enough
[09:20] <bestadvocate> Jawi: does this require a computer restart?
[09:20] <PCGenie> i want/need to speed up my firefox page loading, do i need to set the /etc/resolvconf with my ips dns servers to speed that up? i am using my gateway router for dns right now
[09:20] <grndslm> does that RestrictedFormats page cover *every* multimedia format?
[09:20] <abelstr> chade1: but at the bottom? no errors about a mouse?
[09:20] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Is it formated fat32?
[09:20] <Dougie> is it in the same area as the color depths and resolutions?
[09:20] <abelstr> Dougie: just before it
[09:20] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, no
[09:20] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, OSX
[09:20] <kestaz> is by default using bcm43xx access encrypted networks ? ;)
[09:20] <MikeStyle> hi everyone...in need of a little help...anyone around?
[09:21] <MKR> yeah
[09:21] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: So you've installed the hsf+ drivers right?
[09:21] <Defro_G> gyaresu: i read something about "usbnet driver" but i don't know how it works....if i connect the cable nothing happen
[09:21] <bestadvocate> Jowi: does this require a reboot to take affect?
[09:21] <rickympl> LjL, nevermind, i think i know y, i have one adsl modem that connects to adsl and to the router, this modem is not forwarding the port to the router
[09:21] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, i had it working before but after i installed kde now it doenst seem to
[09:21] <LjL> rickympl: try typing "netcat -l -p 10051" (this will instruct your computer to listen for incoming TCP connections on port 10051 - tell me when you've typed this, i'll try to connect manually)
[09:21] <chade1> Cant see anything relating to a mouse
[09:22] <LjL> rickympl: oh, if the modem is itself a router, that'll be it yeah
[09:22] <Dougie> hmm well maybe thats whats wrong because i don't see that anywhere
[09:22] <rickympl> LjL, duh such a simple thin, i forgot to forward on that modem
[09:22] <Pici> MikeStyle: Go ahead and ask a question, chances are someone will answer
[09:22] <chade1> Only thing that even comes close is usd 2-2: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and adress 2
[09:22] <MikeStyle> well im on edgy and i installed beryl last night with emerald an stuff...and it worked amazingly. when i turned on my comp this morning and started beryl manager everything goes white and i can't read any menus...i have an nvidia video card and xgl is enabled...
[09:22] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Ethernet over usb is not a common thing (interesting though) have you got a link?
[09:22] <bestadvocate> Jowi: I'm going to reboot, I'll tell you if it worked, thanks again for the tip
[09:23] <chade1> Hmm my bluetooth seems to be switched off now, it was on before
[09:23] <Pici> MikeStyle: Ah.. best chance for support on that is in #ubuntu-effects
[09:23] <LycanNyc-work> !ipod
[09:23] <abelstr> chade1: that's your error, most likely
[09:23] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[09:23] <Dougie> it starts with somethign like this "Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility X700 (RV410 PCI$
[09:23] <rickympl> LjL, thx
[09:23] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Have you got any messages for me to peruse? /var/log/mesages | dmesg etc.
[09:23] <chade1> bluetooth is probably my error?
[09:23] <Dougie> and i don't see anything about refresh rate at all in that section
[09:23] <abelstr> chade1: no, the reset of the USB device
[09:23] <Dougie> or in the entire xorg config file
[09:23] <chade1> Ahh
[09:23] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, when i open amarok or gtkpod it says it cant write to it
[09:23] <Defro_G> gyaresu: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[09:24] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: So if you could post the messages...
[09:24] <abelstr> Dougie: not HorizSYnc or VertRefresh ?
[09:24] <chade1> How would I go about fixing it?
[09:24] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Looking.
[09:24] <Dougie> nope nowhere
[09:24] <abelstr> chade1: first, google the error
[09:24] <chade1> Hmm it just froze on me again
[09:25] <TheVault> Got a question. I just installed wine and its going good, but the problem is, I wanna create shortcuts for my programs that are exe files....Am I able to do so and if so how?
[09:25] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, /var/log/messages | dmesg?
[09:25] <Dougie> under the monitor section it says Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS"
[09:26] <opetznick_> is it possible that dhclient sets the hostname given by the dhcpserver
[09:26] <abelstr> TheVault: It is possible to create a shortcut that does 'wine *file*'
[09:26] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: 'cat /var/log/messages' 'dmesg | tail -n 50'
[09:27] <bestadvocate> Jowi: worked like a charm
[09:27] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: then pastebin them please.
[09:27] <chade1> Can I save my dmesg file to a txt file then save it on a USB harddrive?
[09:27] <kernel_geek> yes
[09:27] <gyaresu> Defro_G: So you have one of these special cables then?
[09:27] <kernel_geek> dmesg > file.txt
[09:27] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Cool.
[09:27] <kernel_geek> then copy it over
[09:27] <crimeboy> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=54162
[09:27] <abelstr> opetznick_: not the hostname, it should
[09:27] <TheVault> abelstr: What I mean is. So I have a program called skype.exe for instance, I wanna create a shorcut that when I click on it, it launches it using wine
[09:27] <BigMac> Hey, I run espeak, but then when I say anything I have no sound is played and I get this error
[09:27] <BigMac> PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_WRONLY
[09:27] <BigMac> PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000
[09:28] <con-man> ../include/kiba-dock.h:35:27: error: cairo-glitz.h: No such file or directory
[09:28] <con-man> <----Bit I thought I installed it
[09:28] <Jowi> bestadvocate, good to know. :)
[09:28] <con-man> le sigh
[09:28] <TheVault> abelstr: Just using skype.exe as an example, I don't have that installed
[09:28] <abelstr> TheVault, yes, create a shortcut with command: wine *location of skype.exe*
[09:28] <opetznick_> abelstr: not the hostname it should? what?
[09:28] <abelstr> opetznick_:if I'm not mistaken, dhclient shouldn't set the hostname
[09:28] <kernel_geek> con-man no gap between cario-....
[09:28] <con-man> anyone know why kiba-dock is impossible to install?
[09:28] <TheVault> abselstr: Well I had done that but nothing launched.
[09:28] <kernel_geek> yes open the source
[09:28] <kernel_geek> and get rid of gap in inlude
[09:28] <TheVault> abelstr: Lemme keep trying
[09:29] <opetznick_> abelstr: ah ok is it possible to set it dynamic?
[09:29] <con-man> kernel_geek: what file is that located in?
[09:29] <xelados> Yay, going pure XFCE.
[09:29] <omegacenti> Alright, still having issues with sound in firefox with things such as embedded mp3's. Need help.
[09:29] <Kronuz> abelstr, did you see anything wrong in my dmesg?
[09:29] <con-man> kernel_geek: and what gap? where?
[09:30] <abelstr> opetznick: dynamic? it's easy to set it static, but what would you exactly mean with 'dynamic hostname'?
[09:30] <kernel_geek> in the include part of the source
[09:30] <abelstr> Kronuz: not at all
[09:30] <kernel_geek> open source in text editor
[09:30] <abelstr> Kronuz: did it happen again?
[09:30] <Kronuz> chadel, what hardware are you using? (to see if it could be a hardware related stuff)
[09:30] <con-man> kernel_geek: what file?
[09:30] <kernel_geek> The source
[09:30] <Kronuz> abelstr, not yet, it hasn't
[09:30] <kernel_geek> are you instaling from source ??
[09:30] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, http://rafb.net/p/aSPc3W84.html
[09:30] <Kronuz> but yesterday it happened
[09:30] <Dougie> should i write in a refresh rate section?
[09:30] <Dougie> and if so what would it look like?
[09:30] <gyaresu> Defro_G: From the look of it you can 'sudo modprobe usbnet' to get the driver and then check 'dmesg' to see if devices have been recognised. BTW 'ethtool' is a great prog for looking at ethernet devices and seeing what the hardware is running at.
[09:30] <con-man> kernel_geek: yeah
[09:31] <kernel_geek> ok cd source
[09:31] <kernel_geek> list ouput of ls
[09:31] <abelstr> Dougie: in the manual of your monitor the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rate should be specified
[09:31] <con-man> you mean src, but ok
[09:31] <comradec> I unclicked gdm through the serivces menu in the system.  It doesn't load gdm anymore but I thought you could just click the box again to have it load.  It doesn't appear to as simple as that as I have reclicked the box in systems but gdm doesn't start anymore
[09:31] <kernel_geek> whatever
[09:31] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: "hfs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only."
[09:31] <con-man> kernel_geek: which file in there?
[09:31] <abelstr> Dougie: something like this:
[09:31] <abelstr> Section "Monitor"
[09:31] <abelstr>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[09:31] <abelstr>         Option          "DPMS"
[09:31] <abelstr>         HorizSync       28-64
[09:31] <abelstr>         VertRefresh     43-60
[09:31] <abelstr> EndSection
[09:31] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: That last line is the kicker.
[09:31] <erUSUL> !paste > abelstr
[09:31] <gyaresu> !pastebin | abelstr
[09:31] <ubotu> abelstr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:31] <kernel_geek> list them
[09:31] <con-man> !pastebin | abelstr
[09:31] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, yes but i dont know what to do
[09:31] <Dougie> abelstr: Its a laptop lcd...i know it does 1440x900 @60hz though
[09:32] <kernel_geek> > not |
[09:32] <Kronuz> abelstr, why's there only three syslogs and six dmesg log files?
[09:32] <PCGenie> LjL, is that netcat or netstat?
[09:32] <LjL> PCGenie: netcat
[09:32] <abelstr> Dougie: but with the correct frequencies. It will be on the internet if you google the type of your laptop
[09:32] <erUSUL> comradec: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[09:32] <kernel_geek> by evryboy
[09:32] <con-man> kernel_geek: http://pastebin.ca/384093
[09:32] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Can you stand losing the music on there at the moment?
[09:32] <kernel_geek> ok last peron
[09:32] <chade1> Right, managed to save a copy of the dmesg log
[09:32] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, yes i have new music here
[09:32] <Dougie> ok
[09:32] <abelstr> Kronuz: it throws away the logs after they're too old
[09:32] <comradec> erUSUL: I run that command, it says they already exist
[09:32] <Dougie> lemme look around lol
[09:32] <chade1> Would anyone be willing to take a look at it and see if they can see any issues?
[09:33] <con-man> kernel_geek: ?
[09:33] <Kronuz> abelstr, but it's weird, I just installed Ubuntu yesterday
[09:33] <kernel_geek> con-an check them all and where it sais include <name of file.h> make sure there is no space between the <>
[09:33] <Defro_G> gyaresu: i try rigth now tnx
[09:33] <kernel_geek> by
[09:33] <erUSUL> comradec: well then X should start at boot... 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[09:33] <chade1> Woops, screwed the formatting up, let me see if I can fix it
[09:33] <Kronuz> abelstr, I suppose there should be .0-.4 in all my logs
[09:33] <Kronuz> but just dmesg has .4
[09:34] <abelstr> Kronuz: after a certain amount of boots, but not after a fixed amount of real time
[09:34] <Kronuz> (all others are .0 and .1 or just .0
[09:34] <abelstr> Kronuz: not all logs have multiple instances, that's different for every log
[09:34] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Fisrt entry on google with a search on that line: http://taijin.wordpress.com/2006/02/17/official-first-post-linux-and-ipod-nano-how-to-fix-hfs-fs-write-access-to-a-jounaled-filesystem-is-not-supported-use-the-force-option-at-your-own-risk-mounting-read-only-or-could-not-open-file-mntipod/
[09:34] <Kronuz> abelstr, I should activate a ssh shell in case this freezes again... do you know how?
[09:35] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, let me try thanks
[09:36] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: You'll have to format the drive so get the tunes off first (If you can) Have you tried www.rockbox.org
[09:36] <abelstr> Kronuz: yes, ' sudo apt-get install openssh-server', 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config' and set PasswordAuthentication to 'yes', then 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start' to start it
[09:37] <PunkVintage> "bash: deb: command not found"  which package includes the function "deb"?  (sry, I'm pretty new to linux)
[09:37] <abelstr> Kronuz: my fault! last line should be 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart' because the install already starts it
[09:37] <niyi> anyone know what program people use to get hte equivalent of the os x doc on there desktop
[09:37] <abelstr> PunkVintage: what did you want to do
[09:38] <gyaresu> PunkVintage: What is the exact command you are running and what are you trying to do?
[09:38] <PunkVintage> abelstr, I want to install freevo, the guide said I had to use that command
[09:38] <Dougie> abelstr: everything i find just says maximum refresh rate is 60Hz
[09:38] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, not working for me =\
[09:38] <abelstr> niyi: ksmoothdock and kooldock have similar functionality
[09:38] <Defro_G> gyaresu: i got that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8980/
[09:38] <joshlukas> hallo everyone
[09:38] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, i only have hfsplus not hfs in the output but anyway thanks
[09:38] <Kronuz> abelstr, okay, thanks :)
[09:38] <PunkVintage> abelstr, gyaresu, deb http://ubuntu.geole.info/ edgy universe multiverse
[09:38] <Kronuz> abelstr, (just in case)
[09:38] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Which bit? There was quite a lot in that post...
[09:39] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, cat /proc/filesystems | grep hfs
[09:39] <abelstr> PunkVintage: you need to do 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf', then paste those lines in there, then press Ctrl-X to exit
[09:39] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Try 'sudo modprobe hfs' that should help...
[09:39] <PunkVintage> abelstr, thx a lot!
[09:39] <abelstr> PunkVintage: thereafter 'sudo apt-get update' to refresh the list
[09:39] <niyi> abelstr preferably one for gnome
[09:40] <niyi> i dont use KDE much
[09:40] <Thibaut__> ive got troubles with my ehternet card , how to reduce gigabit card to 100mb on ubuntu please ?
[09:40] <joey237> hey guys i was wondering if edubuntu was as good as ubuntuu? thanks
[09:40] <abelstr> niyi: one of those is busy creating a GNOME port
[09:40] <islan> joey237, it's not
[09:40] <adam_> anyone know how to log in as root
[09:40] <shatrat> joey237, edubuntu is for school administration and servers
[09:40] <islan> joey237, it's meant for kids in the classroom
[09:40] <niyi> adam
[09:40] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, thanks works
[09:40] <LycanNyc-work> that*
[09:41] <joey237> guys when i try to install ubuntu it frezzes at installtion
[09:41] <niyi> use the sudo command before you do want you want
[09:41] <AMD-> any one know how i can use my mce remote with kaffeine player
[09:41] <abelstr> adam: why? If you need any root commands, just prepend 'sudo' to the command
[09:41] <Thibaut__> ive got troubles with my ehternet card , how to reduce gigabit card to 100mb on ubuntu please ?
[09:41] <niyi> e.g. sudo apt-get
[09:41] <kevin> does anyone know what I should set my timer frequency to??
[09:41] <kevin> Timer frequency
[09:41] <kevin>   1. 100 HZ (HZ_100)
[09:41] <kevin> > 2. 250 HZ (HZ_250)
[09:41] <kevin>   3. 300 HZ (HZ_300) (NEW)
[09:41] <kevin>   4. 1000 HZ (HZ_1000)
[09:41] <kevin> choice[1-4?] :
[09:41] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Ok. So usbnet is loaded. You still want the end of dmesg to see what device name it's given your device. Or ifconfig. then 'sudo ethtool ethX' (or whatever)
[09:41] <adam_> well i just installed webmin and it said to log in as root to continue, and i dunno how to log in as root in the browser
[09:41] <erUSUL> !paste > kevin
[09:41] <kevin> sorry
[09:41] <erUSUL> kevin: default in ubuntu is 250 iirc
[09:42] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[09:42] <joey237> what about Xbuntuu i could give it a try mabye it will install
[09:42] <abelstr> kevn: choice 4 for desktops
[09:42] <kevin> erUSUL would it hurt if i did 300
[09:42] <Thibaut__> ive got troubles with my ehternet card , how to reduce gigabit card to 100mb on ubuntu please ?
[09:42] <erUSUL> kevin: no
[09:42] <abelstr> kevin: the higher the more responsive
[09:42] <PCGenie> how do i set my xchat to have a history of the scrolling text?
[09:42] <kevin> 1000 herts is ok then?
[09:42] <abelstr> kevin: yes
[09:42] <n-iCe> !es
[09:43] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, http://rafb.net/p/L9r5BR32.html
[09:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:43] <Slim> Hello
[09:43] <erUSUL> kevin: it depends on your workload
[09:43] <gyaresu> joey237: Common problem at the moment try hitting ESC at the first menu and adding  acpi=off or pci=noacpi to the end of the 'linux' line.
[09:43] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:43] <kevin> just have a simple emachines desktop
[09:43] <abelstr> Thibaut__: use ifconfig (man ifconfig)
[09:43] <Kronuz> hey, what's the directory hierarchy in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <kevin> athlon 22oo+
[09:43] <Kronuz> where am I supposed to install stuff?
[09:43] <erUSUL> !install > Kronuz
[09:43] <joey237> gyaresu thanks i will try that
[09:43] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:43] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: you need to unmount the drive and you only partition devices not folders ;)
[09:43] <abelstr> Kronuz: binaries in /usr/bin, all peristent files in /usr, actually.
[09:44] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, i dont know the device for it :0
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: /dev/sda or whatever (not /dev/sda1 )
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: dmesg
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[09:44] <Kronuz> abelstr, so there's no /usr/local ?
[09:44] <abelstr> Kronuz: yes, preferably /usr/local for manually installed stuff
[09:44] <Kronuz> abelstr, (or it is not used)
[09:44] <Thibaut__> ive got troubles with my ehternet card , how to reduce link speed of my gigabit's card to 100mb on ubuntu please ?
[09:44] <Kronuz> oh, I see
[09:45] <Defro_G> gyaresu: nothing on dmesg
[09:45] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Defro_G Sorry dudes. Gotta go rock climbing.
[09:45] <abelstr> Kronuz: if it's not there, create it. Linux is linux, after all.
[09:45] <Thibaut__> abelstr what i have to do with ifconfig i dont understand ?!
[09:45] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[09:45] <Defro_G> gyaresu: ok thank a lot y search........
[09:45] <abelstr> Thibaut: it's a tool for configuring ethernet hardware, and there's an option for speed somewhere
[09:45] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:45] <Thibaut__> ok thanks
[09:46] <LycanNyc-work> ty gyaresu
[09:46] <Slim> touchscreen for ubuntu?
[09:46] <gyaresu> Defro_G: 'ifconfig' ?
[09:47] <Dougie> abelstr: ok i set the horiz and vert refresh rates and even adjusted the default resolution and still not getting anything. I'm not sure thats the problem because i don't get past the Ubuntu Boot Splash thats where it goes hay wire....like there is an issue with the video drivers or something...
[09:47] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Once you've got a device listed then you need to assign and IP to it.. I hope this is worth it. You'd be better off with a couple of network cards... Anyway. Good lukc.
[09:47] <Juhaz> Slim, wacom screen in a tablet pc worked, perhaps the desktop ones do as well...
[09:47] <abelstr> Dougie: you get absolutely nothing? black screen?
[09:48] <Defro_G> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8981/
[09:48] <Dougie> abelstr: no the splash image gets stuck on the screen and then some funky color lines show up a blue one and a green one
[09:48] <Dougie> abelstr: you know with the Ubuntu logo and the loading bar
[09:48] <abelstr> Dougie: if you press Ctrl-Alt-F1 when the funky colors come in, does anything happen?
[09:49] <islan> sounds like an X / graphic card issue
[09:49] <Dougie> the green line shifts a little
[09:49] <xelados> Hah, the script to get rid of GNOME canned Xchat, too.
[09:49] <Dougie> abelstr: the green line just moves a little like something happend but other then that nothing
[09:49] <xelados> So I had to get it again >_>
[09:49] <abelstr> Dougie: are you sure about the VertRefresh value, that it's correct?
[09:49] <Dougie> abelstr: i just pressed it again and most of the green line went away
[09:50] <aixing> side note: for that of you with Laptops OMG the new Ubuntu owns all other distro. finally my laptop is happy :)
[09:50] <Enoch> how so, aixing?
[09:50] <Dougie> abelstr: it can support up to 60hz vert refresh and i didn't set it higher then that...should be just fine
[09:50] <abelstr> Dougie: are you able to login then, using the login prompt on the black screen?? Or is the screen too garbled?
[09:51] <matej> i have problems with my cedega 5.3.2. When i wanna run Steam with right click (open with cedega), it comes out with error "unable to change directory to /home/user/Trans..."what could be wrong?
[09:51] <Dougie> abelstr: i don't see the login prompt or command prompt or anything
[09:51] <aixing> Enoch: for one, my sony actually shutsdown when I select shutdown
[09:51] <Dougie> abelstr: just the messed up image and the 2 lines
[09:51] <aixing> I'm using a Sony VAIO VNG-S4XP
[09:52] <Dougie> aixing: my laptop doesn't seem to like it to much...lol
[09:52] <aixing> lol
[09:52] <aixing> not edgy
[09:52] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[09:52] <abelstr> Dougie: if you boot using the Live CD, then mount the Ubuntu partition and read the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and see what's there
[09:52] <aixing> I'm refering to the one after: due in April
[09:52] <Dougie> oh i think i'm useing edgy
[09:52] <xelados> gyaresu: About that dualboot idea, will I absolutely need to disconnect my Linux HD's SATA/power cable? If so I don't mind, but it'd be better if I didn't have to.
[09:52] <aixing> na.. not that one
[09:53] <Jowi> Dougie, try to disable the framebuffer in grub (press "e" in the grub boot menu and add vga=normal at the end of the kernel line, then "enter" and press "b" to boot). you will not get the bootsplash but hopefully it will get you to the login screen.
[09:53] <Dougie> abelstr: the live cd wont boot in graphical mode it gives an xserver error
[09:53] <aixing> the newer one is focussed on laptops
[09:53] <aixing> and they seem to be doing a good job so far
[09:53] <omegacenti_> Easy way to find out the exact name of my wireless adaptor in my laptop?
[09:53] <Dougie> Jowi: ok hold on
[09:53] <abelstr> omegacenti: lspci
[09:54] <omegacenti_> abelstr: Thankyou :)
[09:54] <omegacenti_> Ive been searching forever in forums and gateway site to find the name.
[09:54] <abelstr> omegacenti: no problem :)
[09:54] <chade1> Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who's helped me today
[09:55] <chade1> Still working on fixing the error but getting there now atleast
[09:55] <abelstr> great
[09:55] <chade1> Going to try and get my USB modem working first
[09:55] <Dougie> Jowi: when i press e it gives me and edit commands before booting and will only let me change the commands that are there not add a new one
[09:55] <chade1> Then see if I can update the linux boc
[09:55] <chade1> update ubuntu rather
[09:55] <Jowi> Dougie, yes, change the "kernel" line
[09:55] <DeLude> hi all
[09:56] <tinram> it
[09:56] <andre_> hello everyone
[09:56] <tinram> hi
[09:56] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu?
[09:56] <Jowi> Dougie, add "vga=normal" without the quotes to the end of that line
[09:56] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?
[09:56] <Jowi> Dougie, the changes you make is only temporary
[09:57] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah i figured that...not sure it did anything lol
[09:57] <Dougie> nope still same lines
[09:57] <abelstr> Slim: what touchscreen? there are some drivers
[09:57] <Jowi> Dougie, you added vga=normal to the end of the line, enter, and pressed "b"  to boot the modified entry?
[09:58] <matej> i have problems with my cedega 5.3.2. When i wanna run Steam with right click (open with cedega), it comes out with error "unable to change directory to /home/user/Trans..."what could be wrong?
[09:58] <Dougie> Jowi: ok i highlight the kernel line and hit e to edit it
[09:58] <AlexC_> matej: #cedega maybe?
[09:58] <dsl1171> goodday all
[09:58] <matej> AlexC_, no answer :(
[09:58] <Jowi> matej, the directory does not exist probably.
[09:58] <abelstr> matej: /home/user propably doesn't exist, you'll need to change 'user' to the chosen username
[09:58] <matej> Jowi, it exist
[09:58] <Dougie> Jowi: but what it brings up is "< quiet splash" instead of that kernel line that was shown on the screen before
[09:59] <matej> abelstr, thats example
[09:59] <abelstr> matej: ok
[09:59] <owner__> what is the best guide to install lamp on ubuntu edgy eft
[09:59] <nipples> matej check your permissions
[09:59] <AlexC_> owner_hold on, getting a link
[09:59] <erUSUL> !lamp > owner__
[09:59] <matej> nipples, hm?
[09:59] <Jowi> Dougie, it's because the whole line won't fit into the window. it's normal. remove splash and add vga=normal in its place.
[09:59] <AlexC_> owner_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:59] <dsl1171> does anyone got time for me with some problem; been struggling for 6 hours with it
[10:00] <abelstr> dsl1171: yes, what is it?
[10:00] <AlexC_> dsl1171: we can't help if you ask no question now can we =)
[10:00] <Jowi> !ask | dsl1171
[10:00] <ubotu> dsl1171: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <dsl1171> =)
[10:00] <dsl1171> good
[10:00] <Dougie> Jowi: ok now it is booting in text mode i guess lol
[10:00] <dsl1171> here's the situation; i've got a mainHD with debian, WinVIsta and Xp on it
[10:00] <Jowi> Dougie, very good. at the minimum you should be able to see where/if it hangs.
[10:00] <dsl1171> i found two old HD's (4gig and 2gig) and i've put them in my pc
[10:00] <joshjosh> How do I uninstall a windows app I installed in wine?
[10:01] <K3nto> !search
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <dsl1171> installed ubuntu on the first one and the second one contains MS-dos
[10:01] <Jowi> joshjosh, "wine uninstaller"
[10:01] <AlexC_> dsl1171: it's far easier to keep everything to one line
[10:01] <dsl1171> np
[10:01] <PCgenieme> Hi there
[10:01] <AlexC_> hi, PCgenieme
[10:01] <dsl1171> ok, it's hard to explain since i don't get it
[10:01] <Dougie> Jowi: ok here we go "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[10:02] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?  This seems to be one of the major issues stopping a lot of people from switching to ubuntu
[10:02] <dsl1171> grub can't seem to list the XP and Vista partition
[10:02] <joshjosh> thanks
[10:02] <Jowi> Dougie, "yes" you do want to see it. have a look and see if you can spot an error somewhere
[10:03] <peter1984> ANyone who knows how to install beryl with a ati radeon 9600 card? I just cant seem to get it right
[10:03] <omegacenti_> Okay, I am having problems as I have no idea on how to install this file on my computer: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/11780/eng/ipw2200_linux_1_2_0.tgz&agr=&ProductID=1637&DwnldId=11780&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng
[10:03] <Dougie> Jowi: Fatal server error: no screens found                 f"
[10:03] <peter1984> Ive looked at all the info at beryl and nothing works
[10:03] <dsl1171> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
[10:03] <AlexC_> peter1984: #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <K3nto> how can i uninstall an app that i installed via deb
[10:04] <peter1984> AlexC_: okay:-)
[10:04] <abelstr> K3nto: 'sudo apt-get remove *appname*
[10:04] <xelados> Synaptic is displaying packages that are listed as "autoremovable", but I want to keep them. What do I need to do to make it so they can't be autoremoved?
[10:04] <K3nto> kk
[10:04] <Jowi> Dougie, ok. reboot the machine into single user / recovery mode. log in and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" chose VESA for your graphic card and the approximate size of your LCD screen.
[10:04] <Jowi> Dougie, in all other questions go with the defaults
[10:04] <dsl1171> soooo; the first question is; how can it be i can't mount my winxp (dev/hda1) == (hd0,0)?
[10:05] <dsl1171> partition&#590;j
[10:05] <Dougie> Jowi: Ok just a min
[10:05] <Jowi> Dougie, VESA will work with any video card on the market
[10:05] <ekimus> a little off topic but does anyone know how to install FC6 thru a chroot, I need to create a domU with it (or how to install a domU without booting)
[10:05] <livingdaylight> are there any guis for converting .avi files to iso?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> dvdauthor keeps crashing
[10:05] <ekimus> err how to install FC6 without booting
[10:05] <andre_> !rules
[10:05] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <omegacenti_> Need help with ipw2200 install
[10:05] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: first you're gonna have to download the file and then you'll have to either click on it and untar it with file roller or whatever you have or use tar -xvzf and the file name
[10:05] <livingdaylight> ekimus, how about checking in at #fedora
[10:05] <alleyoopster>  livingdaylight: devede and tovidgui
[10:06] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, thx, either?
[10:06] <ekimus> livingdaylight: no answers there :)
[10:06] <omegacenti_> its sa downloaded carlosqueso, now the only thing is doing what you said.
[10:06] <alleyoopster>  livingdaylight: yes either, both have worked for me
[10:06] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, cool, :D
[10:06] <K3nto> !find
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <omegacenti_> filer rolleR?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> ekimus, yea...ubuntu community support is unrivaled :D
[10:06] <AlexC_> ekimus: that's no excuse for asking in the Ubuntu support channel, now is it?
[10:07] <K3nto> you know the command "find"? how do i find a certain file?
[10:07] <omegacenti_> !file roller
[10:07] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[10:07] <Jowi> !info file-roller
[10:07] <ubotu> file-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 680 kB, installed size 4952 kB
[10:07] <abelstr> dsl1171: what command did you use to mount? just 'mount /dev/hda1 *somelocation*'?
[10:07] <livingdaylight> ekimus, considered switching to #ubuntu?
[10:07] <K3nto> nvm i got it
[10:07] <dirken> have problems with dual monitoring, get my dual monitoring but all my programs opens up on my second monitor. How arrange this that it all opens on the first?
[10:07] <ekimus> livingdaylight: what do you mean?
[10:08] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: or just open a terminal, navigate to where you put it and type 'sudo tar -xvzf <name of file>'
[10:08] <AlexC_> ekimus: I think he meant use Ubuntu instead,
[10:08] <omegacenti_> How do you use file roler though?
[10:08] <omegacenti_> roller*
[10:08] <livingdaylight> ekimus, do you know the story of the guy who lost his wallet and was looking under the streetlamp; when asked where he had lost it he replied over there in the dark but there is no light there
[10:08] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, you shoudl be able to double-click on the downloaded file and it shoudl come up
[10:08] <omegacenti_> k one sec.
[10:08] <ekimus> livingdaylight: i am using ubuntu, as the question implies I need FC6 as domU inside xen which is running on ubuntu
[10:08] <abelstr> !ntfs > dsl1171
[10:08] <Jowi> omegacenti_, "file-roller nameofarchive.tar.gz"
[10:09] <carlosqueso> then just click extract (or something...I'm in front of a text only setup right now
[10:09] <dsl1171> jump
[10:09] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?  This seems to be one of the major issues stopping a lot of people from switching to ubuntu
[10:09] <omegacenti_> Okay its unzipped.
[10:09] <carlosqueso> cool...now there should be some sort of readme file with the instructions in there
[10:10] <omegacenti_> one sec checking.
[10:10] <ekimus> andre_: yes about 1.5 years ago (but that was gentoo) and it worked flawlessly :)
[10:10] <osotogari> hey all, im looking for some help with my samba server set up. I have two drive here that i want to share, an external usb hard drive and a partition called shares. I have installed samba server, added two smb users with passwords, associated these with the two users on my system. Now i want to connect via two xp machines. I can connect perfectly, however the other user can only access the shares partition and not the exter
[10:10] <osotogari> nal hard drive. Any ideas?
[10:10] <ekimus> osotogari: are the rights (unix rights) set correctly?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, you sure its tovidgui? i don't see it in repos
[10:10] <andre_> ekimus:  1.5 yrs... would you happen to know where to look to get it working?
[10:11] <dirken> have problems with dual monitoring, get my dual monitoring but all my programs opens up on my second monitor. How arrange this that it all opens on the first?
[10:11] <osotogari> on the external hard drive?
[10:11] <K3nto> how can i search my HD for files?
[10:11] <AlexC_> locate, K3nto ?
[10:11] <K3nto> ok
[10:11] <abelstr> K3nto: use 'locate *somefilename*
[10:11] <K3nto> sudo locate
[10:11] <K3nto> or just locate
[10:11] <Flannel> K3nto: just locate
[10:11] <Dougie> Jowi: ok it doesnt say anything about the LCD size... what about kernel framebuffer device interface? enable or not?
[10:11] <K3nto> ok
[10:11] <abelstr> K3nto: depends, if the user has read access to the file you're looking for, just locate
[10:12] <AlexC_> actually, locate doesn't even work for me!
[10:12] <Jowi> Dougie, disable framebuffer for now
[10:12] <AlexC_> I just ran "locate class_module.php" and it returned nothing...yet I know it does exist :P
[10:12] <livingdaylight> ekimus, sorry, i just stepped into #ubuntu, just saw you asking how to install fc6
[10:12] <ekimus> andre_: i know that my main problems were that it would not sync on the first try from time to time but other than that it was just working with evolution :)
[10:12] <owner__> if i do apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[10:12] <owner__>  will everything be configured for me or do i need to configure some files for the programs to work together] 
[10:12] <abelstr> AlexC: maybe the database wasn't updated yet. use 'updatedb' to do so
[10:12] <osotogari> drwx------ 33 patrick patrick 32768 2007-03-06 21:05 EXHD - this is the drive i want to share.
[10:12] <dyrne> K3nto: bear in mind if it is a new file youll have to update the locate db first like sudo locate -u
[10:12] <andre_> ekimus:  how complicated was it to get it working but everyone seems to be having one hell of a hard time.
[10:13] <dirken> need support for dual monitoring, anyone?
[10:13] <TheVault> I got a problem, I keep getting this error in wine----- wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\sol.exe": Module not found
[10:13] <AlexC_> abelstr: ahhh I see,
[10:13] <TheVault> How do I fix that?
[10:13] <abelstr> TheVault: it usually means you didn't specify the correct path: if the specified file does not exist, it will look in the system32 folder
[10:14] <osotogari> from what i understand i am the only one who can access that hard drive, with those permissions.
[10:14] <ekimus> andre_: at that time is was pretty fluent in compiling kernels, I just set it up to support some usb options i missed in the first place udev then created the device for me. evolution knew how to talk to that. that's about it afair
[10:14] <AlexC_> abelstr: nah that didn't work. No worries anyway, I never use it
[10:14] <TheVault> abelstr: But I copy and paste the address to my exe I am looking for
[10:14] <dsl1171> abelstr, i cant seem to explain it properly; it seems like the first partition of my mainHD crashed, is that possible? other OS like debian and Vista seem to be fine
[10:14] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Didn't quite understand what it was saying
[10:14] <K3nto> !delete
[10:14] <allie> hi folks. i have a problem starting software when ubuntu boots.
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <K3nto> whats the delete command?
[10:15] <TheVault> sudo rm filename
[10:15] <AlexC_> rm, K3nto
[10:15] <K3nto> rm
[10:15] <K3nto> i have to write this stuff down
[10:15] <carlosqueso> omegacenti_ what didn't you understand?
[10:15] <AlexC_> K3nto: you get use to it,
[10:15] <osotogari> it gets easier K3nto
[10:15] <TheVault> K3nto: yuppers
[10:15] <Kronuz> hey, trying to umount, I'm getting a device is busy, how can I know why it is busy?
[10:15] <abelstr> dsl1171: theoretically, yes, your filesystem could be just really er, messed up.
[10:15] <Kronuz> (or who's using it)
[10:15] <ekimus> andre_: but it may well be possible that things changed and newer handhelds (don't use them any more) use different means of synchronisation which aren't open or reverse engineered yet
[10:15] <allie> when i go to system > prefs > sessions and add a program under startup it doesnt seem to get saved. when i close and go back it isnt there and doesnt start when i reboot. any ideas?
[10:15] <abelstr> Kronuz: install 'lsof' and use it on the device to see what programs are accessing it
[10:16] <dyrne> Kronuz: usually your still in the /directory  at least thats what i usually do :)
[10:16] <hack_> hej
[10:16] <TheVault> so how do I fix my sol.exe problem in wine then abelstrl
[10:16] <Kronuz> dyrne, hehe, I know... but not this time ;)
[10:16] <andre_> ekimus:  yeah,  my handheld is  a few years old, I synce and multisync recognises it... I just can't get evolution to sync up
[10:16] <abelstr> TheVault: use the complete path to the exe, noting case sensitivity. If you already did, I can't help you i'm afraid.
[10:16] <TheVault> All exe programs should run in wine right?
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: note the first shouldn't be necessary
[10:17] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Wow, too much information in such amount of time. The INSTALL file has so much information that I do not know where to start.
[10:17] <I-kido> TheVault:  go check /home/YourName/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32, if sol.exe is there double click it
[10:17] <AlexC_> TheVault: nope,
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: mind you, the .exe needs to be executable
[10:17] <andre_> ekimus: thanks for the help... if it's ok I'll keep posting my question everyonce in a while in hopes people respond.
[10:17] <TheVault> what is the sol.exe is not in there?
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: chmod u+x sol.exe
[10:17] <TheVault> what if the sol.exe is missing, where can I retrieve it?
[10:17] <carlosqueso> omegacenti_, it's probably something you have to compile in  what kind of card is it?
[10:18] <ericz> i'm using dapper drake, pretend i wanted to upgrade to edgy, i remember update-manager used to have a button to upgrade for me.. but i told it to stop bugging me i guess, how do i get that back so i can upgrade to edgy?
[10:18] <omegacenti_> Intel/Pro internal 2200BG wireless
[10:18] <Dougie> Jowi: ok i have the login splash now lol
[10:18] <omegacenti_> ibe sec,
[10:18] <AlexC_> !update | ericz
[10:18] <ubotu> ericz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:18] <Dougie> Jowi: resolution does not look like its right though
[10:18] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[10:18] <kevin> anyone know why i am getting a error after make menuconfig?
[10:18] <ericz> AlexC_, thanks
[10:18] <abelstr> kevin: what is the error?
[10:18] <tbodine> I've got an optical mouse. and recently it's been acting up. The cursor is really shaky when I move it.. Anyone know if I can fix this with software or cleaning or something?
[10:18] <kevin> [menuconfig]  Error 2
[10:19] <Kronuz> abelstr, oh, I think it's beagled :P
[10:19] <Jowi> Dougie, cool. at least your system is functional. the resolution is probably way off if you have a wide screen lcd and now you use the basic vesa drivers even.
[10:19] <abelstr> kevin: before that?
[10:19] <I-kido> erikz: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[10:19] <TheVault> abelstr: I don't see the sol.exe in there, what do I do now?
[10:19] <tj007s13> does anyone know a good command line text editor for the ubuntu server edition?
[10:19] <tbodine> tj007s13, Vim.
[10:19] <MKR> tj007s13, nano, vim
[10:19] <starly> vim or emacs
[10:19] <Jowi> Dougie, what kind of computer is this and what video card do you have and what is the expected resolution you want?
[10:19] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13576/ is a howto in english, i'd try there
[10:19] <abelstr> TheVault: try a 'locate sol.exe' incase you're quite sure it's on your system. If you didn't already, run 'updatedb' first.
[10:20] <abelstr> TheVault: the latter as root
[10:20] <AlexC_> abelstr: I did that before, but it did not update the db.... it still didn't find the files
[10:20] <omegacenti_> thanks carlosqueso
[10:20] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:20] <Dougie> Jowi: Its a gateway MX8523 notebook it has a 17" LCD and will do 1440x900 @60Hz the video card is an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility 64Mb PCIE
[10:21] <kevin> abelstr here is the first error i see, there are alot of errors all beginning with scripts/Kconfig
[10:21] <abelstr> AlexC: it does update the database, about your problem I don't know, frankly
[10:21] <omegacenti_> Okay now my firefox wont even load properly
[10:21] <omegacenti_> what the heck is going on.
[10:21] <MKR> osotogari, you need to speficy a user name
[10:21] <abelstr> kevin: something about permission denied?
[10:21] <tj007s13> so a command for vim would be "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:21] <MKR> wait
[10:21] <tj007s13> ?
[10:21] <omegacenti_> nm fixed.
[10:21] <MKR> misread
[10:21] <dsl1171> abelstr, can grub or wrong mbr settings corrupt one partition on a HD?
[10:21] <kevin> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:97: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before chtype
[10:21] <abelstr> kevin: always possible... because you'll need to be root for write access in /usr/src, I tend to forget that.
[10:21] <dyrne> tj007s13: looks good
[10:21] <osotogari> ahhh, i see. Where will i specify the username  in the syntax?
[10:22] <kevin> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:187: error: expected ) before * token
[10:22] <abelstr> kevin: argh. That looks bad. I have, frankly, no idea.
[10:22] <n-iCe> Hi how can i put the gaim in the tray icon? when i close it ?
[10:22] <kevin> ok
[10:22] <tj007s13> thx im noob :D
[10:22] <Jowi> Dougie, ok. you need to do some reading. first make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf then read about !ati and !resolution. I have no experience with ati cards though so I might not be able to help much there.
[10:22] <kevin> thanks anyway
[10:22] <abelstr> dsl1171: the latter can, GRUB shouldn't
[10:22] <TheVault> abelstr: Alright I did that, heres what I got
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$ sudo locate sol.exe
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$ locate sol.exe
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$
[10:22] <TheVault> crap
[10:22] <TheVault> sorry guys
[10:22] <drac__> hello...
[10:23] <AlexC_> hi,
[10:23] <dyrne> tj007s13: vim isnt the most noob friendly editor but youll get used to it
[10:23] <Dougie> !ati
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <omegacenti_> Is this a pretty old kernal? 2.6.17-11-generic
[10:23] <AlexC_> yes, but it's the latest in Edgy, afai
[10:23] <AlexC_> afaik*
[10:23] <abelstr> TheVault: that means it's either not on your system, or you didn't run 'sudo updatedb' after you installed the application. Did you use a windows installer?
[10:23] <omegacenti_> afaik?
[10:23] <Dougie> !Resolution
[10:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:23] <TheVault> I am on ubuntu
[10:23] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: as far as I know,
[10:23] <dyrne> tj007s13: id recomment typing 'vimtutor' in terminal
[10:23] <omegacenti_> thankyou.
[10:23] <TheVault> I just added the respitories for Wine
[10:23] <starly> !stop xserver
[10:23] <n-iCe> Hi how can i put the gaim in the tray icon? when i close it ?
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stop xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[10:24] <abelstr> TheVault: What application are you trying to run?
[10:24] <TheVault> went to Synaptics Package Manager and installed wine that way
[10:24] <TheVault> well
[10:24] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: it's in the options
[10:24] <TheVault> skulltag.exe - Application that allows me to play doom online
[10:24] <Dougie> Jowi: Ok how do i select a wireless network to use it seems to have just connected to the first it came to or something
[10:24] <TheVault> WinAvi.exe
[10:24] <gordonjcp> what do I need to install to make totem usable?
[10:24] <n-iCe> alleyoopster i can't find it, how is called?
[10:24] <abelstr> TheVault: I'm leaving, sorry. Good luck!
[10:24] <gordonjcp> as it is, it doesn't appear to play any files at all
[10:24] <TheVault> bummer
[10:24] <Jowi> Dougie, no idea. I'm wired baby ;)
[10:24] <ArrenLex> lol
[10:25] <Dougie> abelstr: thanks for the help see you later
[10:25] <Dougie> ah to late lol
[10:25] <ArrenLex> This giant channel froze my IRC client for almost 2 minutes trying to enter.
[10:25] <unimatrix9> how would i search irc to see if someone is online at freenode irc?
[10:25] <dcordes> hey i've got a problem with my kaffeine in ubuntu edgy. it somehow doesn't want to play dvb-t anymore
[10:25] <dcordes> it plays normal videos though
[10:25] <Dougie> ok does anyone know how to select wireless networks? is there a way to like have it list them and select one of the availible?
[10:25] <dcordes> i also got the signal
[10:25] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: not running it at the moment, but it is in there, maybe a plugin option
[10:25] <starly> unimatrix9: i would try to privmsg him
[10:26] <K3nto> how do you delete a directory from sudo?
[10:26] <dcordes> K3nto: sudo rmdir directory
[10:26] <K3nto> ok
[10:26] <K3nto> ty
[10:26] <ArrenLex> Dougie: If he's on #ubuntu, ask ubotu !seen <name>
[10:26] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: on 2.0.6 it is under Interface
[10:26] <matej> is it reccomended to install alsa-utils (6.10)?
[10:27] <ledmonkey> I need help...
[10:27] <Dougie> !seen ubotu
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <TheVault> Can someone please help me
[10:27] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:27] <unimatrix9> dont we all?
[10:27] <dcordes> K3nto: but only if the directory is empty. when there are firles and or folders in it you have to type sudo rm -r directory. a different way of accesing files owned by root on your filesystem is opening a nautilus with root rights: "sudo nautilus" but i suggest you rather do it the terminal way
[10:27] <alleyoopster> TheVault: what's up
[10:27] <ArrenLex> Dougie: Oh... they removed that functionality. Weird. = /
[10:28] <Dougie> ArrenLex: what is ubotu?
[10:28] <ArrenLex> !ubotu | Dougie
[10:28] <ubotu> Dougie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <unimatrix9> he is my friend
[10:28] <TheVault> alleyoopster: I installed Wine. But it did not come with the sol.exe file, and now I can't run programs
[10:28] <ledmonkey> I installed ubuntu on my windows vista laptop, and now my vista won't boot
[10:28] <carlosqueso> mattej, I think it's installed by default
[10:28] <K3nto> Daougie: hes your friend
[10:28] <carlosqueso> !info alsa-utils
[10:28] <ubotu> alsa-utils: ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1824 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[10:28] <ArrenLex> He is everyone's friend :)
[10:28] <Slart> ledmonkey: nice.. what's the problem? ;)
[10:28] <omegacenti_> mv: target `/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/' is not a directory: No such file or directory I got this error in the guide.. what should I do?
[10:28] <ledmonkey> not funny
[10:28] <alleyoopster> TheVault: sorry don't use wine, anyone else help TheVault
[10:29] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:29] <TheVault> oh bummer
[10:29] <Slart> ledmonkey: hehe... sorry.. it should have worked.. you don't get a menu when booting?
[10:29] <ArrenLex> TheVault: sol.exe is windows solitaire. xD
[10:29] <carlosqueso> omagacenti, what does ls -l /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[10:29] <ledmonkey> I get the boot menu at the beginning
[10:29] <carlosqueso> give you
[10:29] <TheVault> not sure if thats the same file but ill check that
[10:29] <ledmonkey> and I choose vista, it goes though the little scrolling loading bar
[10:29] <ledmonkey> then it does nothing
[10:30] <K3nto> ledmonkey: what did you partiotion with, if at all
[10:30] <Slart> ledmonkey: oh.. then it at least boots a little
[10:30] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: that guid is seriously old.. its for 4.10
[10:30] <omegacenti_> guide*
[10:30] <ledmonkey> I have two harddrives on my laptop, I installed the linux partition on the unused harddrive
[10:30] <CyberCod> heh
[10:30] <carlosqueso> sorry...I don't have one...trying to find you something
[10:30] <xelados> How do you disable the Trash?
[10:30] <BrianG> completley?
[10:31] <Slart> ledmonkey: I'm not sure I can help you with this.. my best guess is that ubuntu changed sometihng and vista doesn't like it.. but I've never had these problems with Windows 2000 or Windows XP
[10:31] <BrianG> or just the little icon?
[10:31] <BrianG> xelados
[10:31] <caine607> Oi!  Lotsa people here.  Just bought a new server, apparently the motherboard requires kernel 2.6.18 for its on board RAID controller, but Ubuntu 6.10 comes with 2.6.17 on the CD.  How hard is it to upgrade the kernel?   I'm not in the middle of this now but I wnat to get a feel for what I'm getting into here.  Background, I have a bachelors in CS, I've been programming C (and now Java) professionally since 1990, I've been using
[10:31] <caine607>  unix (and now linux) since about 1987.
[10:31] <CyberCod> can I ask a question?
[10:31] <xelados> Completely. Basically, make the system ask me if I'm sure I want to delete it instead of automatically putting it in the Trash when I hit Delete.
[10:31] <Slart> ledmonkey: perhaps you can boot from the vista CD and select repair? it will stop ubuntu from working but at least you'll get vista back
[10:31] <BrianG> !ask
[10:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:31] <billymeter> I'm having a problem with firefox. I was running WoW via wine and changed the resolution in game and WoW locked up. I hit control alt backspace to restart X and rebooted the PC. Now I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to run Firefox, any ideas?
[10:31] <ledmonkey> I don't have the vista disc
[10:31] <n-iCe> El hijacktis es una herramienta que analiza tu sistema en busca de ciertos comportamientis tipicamente asociados con las acciones de spyware, virus y algunos otros bichejos, genera un reporte analizable y permite desde su propia interfaz reparar una buena parte de los problemas detectados.
[10:31] <n-iCe> Tambin hace un anlisis de variables de entorno del sistema para poder saber que sistema se tiene y as detectar con mayor precisin el efecto de los bichos la igual que saber como atacarlos.1
[10:31] <n-iCe> ops
[10:31] <n-iCe> sorry
[10:31] <erUSUL> !kernel > caine607
[10:32] <tj007s13> anyone know how to change the default directory in vsftpd
[10:32] <ledmonkey> it didn't come with one
[10:32] <Slart> ledmonkey: hmm... you don't get any "press f8 to bla bla bla"
[10:32] <ledmonkey> yea
[10:32] <ledmonkey> I get that
[10:32] <caine607> erUSUL: Come gain?
[10:32] <carlosqueso> omegacenti...according to what I found you shoudln't need any drivers
[10:32] <K3nto> !vsftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[10:32] <xelados> !kernel | caine607
[10:32] <erUSUL> caine607: read the pm from ubotu
[10:32] <ubotu> caine607: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:32] <carlosqueso> does iwconfig give you anything
[10:32] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: show me.
[10:32] <Slart> ledmonkey: what happens if you try a debug-reboot.. perhaps it will tell you what's wrong? or at least you'll see what the last line printed is
[10:32] <caine607> Ahhhh, PM, right, differnet window.
[10:32] <omegacenti_> what did you find?
[10:32] <unimatrix9> caine607 use an alternative  with the right kernel
[10:32] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, type iwconfig into a terminal and see what it says
[10:33] <techie_> hello Can anybody explain in Ubutnu what does the terminal service client does?
[10:33] <omegacenti_> okay
[10:33] <Slart> ledmonkey: debug/safe mode/verbose mode.. I don't know what they call it any more
[10:33] <ledmonkey> wait, I think I can restore it from a command at the begining
[10:33] <ledmonkey> hang on a sec
[10:33] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:33] <xelados> Completely. Basically, make the system ask me if I'm sure I want to delete it instead of automatically putting it in the Trash when I hit Delete.
[10:33] <Slart> techie_: connects to terminal server servers?
[10:33] <techie_> Is that like a private server I can setup to allow friends etc to downlod files from my computer?
[10:33] <billymeter> I'm having a problem with firefox. I was running WoW via wine and changed the resolution in game and WoW locked up. I hit control alt backspace to restart X and rebooted the PC. Now I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to run Firefox, any ideas?
[10:33] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: may I pm you a load of info?
[10:33] <CyberCod> Anyone got any experience mounting sata drives? with a pci sata card?
[10:33] <carlosqueso> use pastebin and give me the url
[10:33] <caine607> erUSUL: Thanks.
[10:33] <omegacenti_> one second
[10:33] <caine607> xelados: THanks.
[10:33] <carlosqueso> !pastebin | omegacenti
[10:33] <ubotu> omegacenti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <Slart> techie_: it's a solution where many people log into the same computer.. do a little google on it.. it's a well known thing. .many corporations use it
[10:34] <xelados> caine607: I didn't message you first
[10:34] <xelados> :P
[10:34] <caine607> unimatrix9: Come again?  Is there another version of ubuntu with a more recent kernel?
[10:34] <Slart> techie_: it's not something you want to try if you don't know what it is..
[10:34] <unimatrix9> billymeter : fastest solution? donwload new firefox, run that , all settings will be there...
[10:34] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8991/
So basically you could setup accounts for others, emails and etc.... correct out of your own computer?
[10:35] <Slart> CyberCod: I have a promise card with sata drives connected.. but it's in debian... but it's close enough perhaps
[10:35] <billymeter> unimatrix9: Thanks, I'll try that
[10:35] <omegacenti_> is there a frontend for linux for wireless like Zero config is for windows?
[10:35] <carlosqueso> omegacenti...you've got a wireless card recognized then
[10:35] <caine607> erUSUL: Ok, right, I'd much rather not build a custom kernel.  Is there any other way to get a 2.6.18?
and with an internet account setup a private way to control your emails etc....?
[10:35] <Slart> techie_: well... close.. but that is if you have the _server_ software.. the terminal server _client_ can only connect to a server and use it.. the server costs money.. big piles of money
[10:36] <omegacenti_> Okay, then my problem is I cannot connect using the wireless.
[10:36] <Slart> techie_: you'll have to buy it from Microsoft
[10:36] <CyberCod> Slart, one moment... may have it
yeap, i figure that it was it was.
[10:36] <omegacenti_> I am wondering if it is because I am using WPA2 personal TKIP+AES on my router.
[10:36] <kid6> if I do not have a boot partition can I make one with the livecd?
[10:36] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, that would be it
[10:36] <omegacenti_> really?
[10:36] <omegacenti_> Is there no support for wpa2?
[10:36] <unimatrix9> caine607
[10:36] <unimatrix9> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[10:37] <omegacenti_> !wpa2
[10:37] <caine607> unimatrix9: thx
[10:37] <ledmonkey> shit
[10:37] <unimatrix9> there are more how to out there
[10:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:37] <ledmonkey> I can't access my recovery
[10:37] <Slart> ledmonkey: the restore thing didn't work?
[10:37] <unimatrix9> this was just the first one i came across
[10:37] <ledmonkey> no
[10:37] <unimatrix9> good luck
I remember the counterpart in xp windows we had something call u-serv which it was simple to setup... and you could friends could upload privately from your server which you could setup on the go. YOu could also download from other friend's services.
[10:37] <unimatrix9> got to get some sleep...:P
[10:37] <Slart> ledmonkey: what did you do when you installed ubuntu? anything special?
[10:37] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, there is, but wep is better.  I'd try going to System->settings->networking (or something like that, i don't have gnome) and seeing if you can put your key in there
[10:37] <ledmonkey> no
do we have something similar in ubuntu?
[10:38] <justthisguy> Hi, I have a problem with my usb / audio. When I have a usb device that transmits a lot of data, like my cd burner or ipod, the sound 'wobbles' regulaly. Can anyone help?
[10:38] <Dougie> strange...it says its sending and recieve packets but not getting any internet
[10:38] <lordmaynoth_> I would like everyones opinion..  I run a 2100+, asus nforce1, 512mb ram, 250gb seagate sata, and an asus dvd+-rw,   would I be better of with xubuntu?
a type of server you could set on and off on the internet at your convenience?
[10:38] <Slart> techie_: sounds like a nice thing.. I don't know of anything similiar for linux/ubuntu.. but there might exist something out there
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> ledmonkey: Could you summarize your issue for me?
[10:38] <MKR> lordmaynoth_, you should be able to run any ubuntu on that
[10:38] <ledmonkey> okay
[10:38] <unimatrix9> ubuntu should be fine!
it makes think whether to use a similar program from windows and run i with Wine!
[10:39] <unimatrix9> bye
[10:39] <unimatrix9> bye
[10:39] <ledmonkey> I installed linux on my vista laptop, and now my vista won't fully boot
[10:39] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Wep is absolutely detestable... you can snoop for packets right out of the stream and come up with the encryption key in a matter of gigabits.
[10:39] <Slart> techie_: do you know of any similar programs for windows?.. that's free?
[10:39] <abasinisvacant> what program could i use where i can use korean font?
[10:39] <lordmaynoth_> MKR, Thanks.   I just didn't know if my hardware was slow enough to be better of on xubuntu
[10:39] <erUSUL> caine607: dunno if you can install the feisty kernel deb... you may find incompatibilities with hald udev and the like
I am thinking....... let me do some search and I will let you know.
[10:39] <abasinisvacant> help:  what program could i use where i can use korean font?
[10:40] <AlexC_> !repeat | abasinisvacant
[10:40] <ubotu> abasinisvacant: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:40] <Slart> abasinisvacant: what do you want to do ? write documents?
[10:40] <bo1> open office?
[10:40] <abasinisvacant> slart, i just want to type some things using korean font
[10:40] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, i think just about any program... make sure you have uim etc
[10:40] <abasinisvacant> uim?
[10:40] <starly> are there corean chars in any utf?
[10:40] <Slart> abasinisvacant: I'd go with open office then
[10:40] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu.html#more-16
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> i have open office
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> should it already have korean font?
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, simply choose a korean font
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> ok will try
[10:41] <Slart> abasinisvacant: I have no idea.. I'm just guessing
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> thanks
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, but you need uim
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, or similar
[10:41] <starly> !uim
[10:41] <omegacenti_> Is there N-Draft wireless support in linux yet?
[10:41] <ubotu> uim: Simple and flexible input method collection and library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.1-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[10:41] <caine607> erUSUL: Thanks.
there was a program called Serv-u for windows but I do not know whether this is also available for linux. But you could probably run under wines
[10:42] <erUSUL> caine607: np
[10:42] <dahoople> autolog=on
[10:42] <Slart> techie_: I'll do a little googling.. brb
do a google on that or even check on synaptic
[10:42] <Slart> techie_: ah.. I thought I recognized it.... it's a FTP server.. there are plenty of those for linux
[10:43] <Slart> techie_: I have even used it.. put a little "U" in the task bar
[10:43] <assasukasse> im very pissed that linux apps are not at the same level with microshit, for example, skype for winzoze is nice, but the one for linux is like 2 years ago..
[10:43] <AlexC_> !language | assasukasse
[10:43] <ubotu> assasukasse: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:44] <assasukasse> oki
yes, but you set it up at your own convenience and turn on/off and tell your friends when you have them on and can even assign passwords to others and exchange programs etc between friends
[10:44] <assasukasse> sorry i was just angry
[10:44] <UbuntuAr> If I lose connection to the network for some reason, is there a way to re-up the ethernet connection without rebooting?  Some command in the terminal, for example?
[10:44] <Slart> assasukasse: hehe.. I'll go with the nasty answer here.. "you can always help write or donate to make it better" =)
[10:44] <Gandalf> hmm
[10:44] <assasukasse> Slart: i already help translating
[10:44] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ifup  and ifdown in console
[10:44] <carlosqueso> UbuntuAr: sudo ifdown <interface name> sudo ifup <interface name>
[10:44] <ompaul> Slart, what
[10:44] <UbuntuAr> thank you Slart and carloqueso
[10:44] <carlosqueso> grr...slart beat me
[10:44] <techie_> u
[10:44] <erUSUL> UbuntuAr: sudo ifdown iface && sudo ifup iface ... or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:45] <omegacenti_> Is there something like Zero Config for windows as there is for Ubuntu? Wireless Zero config?
[10:45] <carlosqueso> dang all of middle earth is here
[10:45] <Slart> carlosqueso: but you remembered the sudo..  =)
[10:45] <eilker> kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 ,this may conflict ? i cant get login screen,(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available.Fatal server error:no screens found //but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment.
what you mean little u in the task bar ^_^
[10:45] <Slart> techie_: an ftp server will enable you to share files with friends.. and they can upload files to you..  that's about it..
yes exactly
[10:46] <omegacenti_> How do I find out the different wireless networks around me?
[10:46] <Slart> techie_: the serv-U software had a little icon in the taskbar on windows.. a little U... green when online.. red when offline
[10:46] <Slart> ompaul: huh? what what?
[10:46] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: network manager
[10:46] <Slart> techie_: lets see what ubotu says..
yes..... so you say we have counterparts in linux we can use!
[10:46] <erUSUL> omegacenti_: iwlist iface scan
[10:46] <Slart> !ftpserver
[10:46] <justthisguy> Hi, I have a problem with my usb / audio. When I have a usb device that transmits a lot of data, like my cd burner or ipod, any sound that is playing 'wobbles' regularly. Can anyone help?
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Slart> !ftp
[10:46] <xelados> How do I completely disable the Trash? It's annoying.
[10:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:46] <ompaul> Slart, what is wrong with doing some contributing :)
^_^ have arisen your curiosity!
[10:47] <Slart> ompaul: eh.. nothing.. just that I think it's such a common excuse when someone says something about any software for linux.. "you can always write it yourself"..
u-serv 1.05 in Synaptic..... found it
[10:47] <tj007s13> !ftp servers
[10:47] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:47] <Slart> !ftpd
[10:47] <ompaul> Slart, it is
I will check and find out the popularity rate on this one
[10:48] <Slart> ompaul: and I don't really like that excuse myself.. that's why I called it nasty =)
[10:48] <eilker> The problem is that the current version of the video driver for the Xbox doesn't support that version of X. what to do ?
[10:48] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  I see no option that allows me to view which SSIDS are around my location.
[10:48] <Slart> techie_: you do so.. good luck... oh.. and have a look at the others too
[10:48] <UbuntuAr> Slart and carloqueso, that did not workout.  erUSUL, worked like a charm!  Thanks to all 3 for the help.
[10:48] <omegacenti_> In Network monitor
[10:48] <omegacenti_> err manager
which others... do you have a link?
[10:49] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: that's because I didn't say Network Monitor.
or did you already told me and I missed in between the scrolling?
[10:49] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  You did say Network Manager.
[10:49] <Slart> !ftp servers | techie_
[10:49] <ubotu> techie_: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:49] <intelikey> has there been any bug filed on the updates to the foomatic database for dapper drake ?
[10:49] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: yes, I said Network _manager_ not _monitor_ =)
[10:49] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ifup and ifdown didn't work?? that's odd
great thanks.
[10:50] <UbuntuAr> slart, correct.  it showed an ip (valid one) but had no effect in reality
[10:50] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  seriously, we get the small descrpeancy, can we move on with the solution?
[10:50] <padge> Can someone help me get a partition erased, one created and formatted?
[10:50] <intelikey> does anyone in charge know that one of the updates breaks the foomatic database in dapper ?
ubotu certainly is the "goose" with the golden eggs! hehe
[10:50] <slippyr4> padge: sure, what's up
[10:50] <padge> /dev/hdb1
[10:51] <padge> slippyr4: it needs to go away, and come back EXT2 :)
[10:51] <michael117> I keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" when trying to do apt-get -f install:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8993/
[10:51] <UbuntuAr> this worked just fine -> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:51] <slippyr4> padge: do you want to change it's size?
[10:51] <ledmonkey> =/ this is not good
[10:51] <techie_> must run. you all have a great time. I will be back later.
[10:51] <techie_> bye for now.
[10:51] <padge> slippyr4: not at all
[10:51] <UbuntuAr> So, whatever the difference is, that was it =] 
[10:51] <omegacenti_> iwlist iface scan did not work
[10:51] <slippyr4> padge: is it mounted at the moment?
[10:52] <padge> slippyr4: no sir
[10:52] <omegacenti_> said device does not support scanning, even though I know it does.
[10:52] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ah.. ifup and ifdown really just controls the dhcp-client (I think) That other command, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart, restarts more stuff..
[10:52] <ghatak> Hi, is there anything like OSX bar for linux, i have managed to get XGL working, if i can get that bar then it will be perfect.
[10:52] <Slart> UbuntuAr: but it's good that your problem was solved
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> Slart, I see.
[10:52] <__Krush> Hi can somebody guide me to sort out ubuntu PCs not shutting down?
[10:52] <Doddman> yay I uninstalled kde and my computer is much faster
[10:52] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: drop the attitude. I know nothing about wireless and was just a suggestion as I've heard great things about Network Manager
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> Yes, thanks to all.
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> I've saved the info for next time!
[10:52] <Jowi> ghatak, what do you mean by "bar"?
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> cheers
[10:52] <Slart> ghatak: easy to install, nice, configurable... pick 2 =)
[10:52] <slippyr4> padge: then if you're happy losing any data on it, start a terminal and sudo mke2fs /dev/sdb2
[10:52] <Jarhead756> what is a really good program for downloading podcasts?
[10:52] <AlexC_> Jowi: he means Dock,
[10:52] <Doddman> What is a good widget engine that runs in xfce?
[10:52] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: what did you have on it before?
[10:52] <Slart> ghatak: there is one that uses cairo... cairo-dock I think
[10:53] <ghatak> Slart: Nice, Configureable
[10:53] <__Krush> Hi can somebody guide me to sort out ubuntu PCs not shutting down?
[10:53] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: nevermind, now i understood, you replaced KDE w/ Xfce
[10:53] <padge> slippyr4: That's the plan.  Thanks for the help, sir.  'Bout how long do you think that would take on a 120GB deal?
[10:53] <Jowi> ghatak, AlexC_ ah. well kxdocker comes close. I use cairo-dock (but it's not really a dock, only a launcher)
[10:53] <omegacenti_> AlexC_: If you know nothing about wireless.... say nothing about wireless. Is that attitude enough for you?
[10:53] <ghatak> Slart: Okay will try that
[10:53] <eobanb> are there open source 3D drivers for the radeon 9700?
[10:53] <Slart> ghatak: and there are a couple of others.. but nothing neatly packaged.. most are alpha stage software.. works sometimes etc
[10:53] <Doddman> yeah pretty much IndyGunFreak
[10:53] <slippyr4> padge: not more than 2 or 3 minutes
[10:53] <Doddman> xfce is so easy to use
[10:54] <Dougie> Alexc_: is network manager built in or does it have to be installed?
[10:54] <HolyGoat> Gah. Anyone happen to have a mirror for packages.freecontrib.org?
[10:54] <slippyr4> padge: depending on your overall system speed and which way the wind is blowing
[10:54] <Jarhead756> __Krush: try this, try clicking shutdown, wait about 10 seconds, then hitting control alt backspace.
[10:54] <Jarhead756> program for podcasts?
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: i'm not sure of a widgets for Xfce.. as it meant for function over form.
[10:54] <dyrne> __Krush: dont forget to stand on one foot :)
[10:54] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: seriously, drop it. I am in here in my own _freetime_ ok, so if you don't respect that you can leave right now. I was offering a suggestion, even though I know nothing about Wireless. Would you have perfered it if I never told you about Network Manager? Hum? Next time I just wont bother.
[10:54] <padge> slippyr4: Alrighty, I do thank you for your help, sir.  Oh, when I mount that how can I do that with write permissions for my desktop user?
[10:54] <AlexC_> Dougie: network manager is installing by default in Feisty, but not Edgy,
[10:55] <__Krush> Ok dyrne.....I will also hold my thumb in my mouth
[10:55] <Doddman> truth
[10:55] <Doddman> I wonder if gdesklets will work
[10:55] <fazed> __Krush, do you have 6.06 with nvidia drivers?
[10:55] <AlexC_> s/installing/installed
[10:55] <DeLude> simple question here... where in the file system do i find most applications?
[10:55] <AlexC_> DeLude: _normally_ /usr/bin
[10:55] <__Krush> Hi Fazed....have 6.10 with nvidia drivers....
[10:55] <Slart> DeLude: usr/bin I'd guess
[10:55] <cafuego_> DeLude: in various <somedir>/bin locations.
[10:55] <DeLude> thanx
[10:55] <Dougie> AlexC_: ok well can i download it to a usb flash drive and then take it to the linux machine and install it? I'm looking for something to manage wireless connections too
[10:55] <cafuego_> I don't think that's useful info, somehow.
[10:55] <ledmonkey> how do I access my windows files in linux?
[10:56] <omegacenti_> AlexC_: It was your attitude that I would have not preferred. I said a simple statement that I didn't see the option for searching for networks in network monitor when we both new I meant manager. So do not put yourself on the righteous pedestal my friend. And yes, I can drop it.
[10:56] <slippyr4> padge: you need to ensure that the mount point has the right permissions.
[10:56] <fazed> o it wouldnt shutdown for me with 6.06 and nvidia but 6.10 is ok. as a work around for 6.06 i made it start at runlevel 3 and it was ok
[10:56] <Slart> !ntfs | ledmonkey
[10:56] <ubotu> ledmonkey: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:56] <cafuego_> if you want the names of apps, just hit tab a couple of times on an empty line in the terminal.
[10:56] <ledmonkey> thanks
[10:56] <michael117> How can I fix "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" from apt-get?
[10:56] <Jowi> omegacenti_, install network-manager-gnome. log out and in again. you should get an icon in the system tray that will let you see the SSID's in the area.
[10:56] <padge> slippyr4: Ahh, aye.
[10:56] <omegacenti_> Now, I don't see the option in network manager for scanning networks. By any chance could you elbaorate?
[10:56] <slippyr4> padge: ie. sudo chmod a+w /mount/point
[10:56] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Thankyou very much! :)
[10:57] <__Krush> Ok fazed...think it is related to nvidia....drivers
[10:57] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: how the hell am I suppose to know you meant Manager when you said Monitor? I'm not flipping psysic. Just leave it and respect the people that are helping you!
[10:57] <fazed> __Krush, yeah do you get a corrupt mostly black screen?
[10:57] <Jowi> omegacenti_, thank me if it works for you. some wireless nics are flaky. :)
[10:58] <omegacenti_> Jowi: absolutely. it is very much a pain getting wireless to work as well in linux as it did in windows.
[10:58] <omegacenti_> hate to say it though.
[10:58] <Doddman> OOOOOOOOHHH MYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOODDD
[10:58] <Jowi> I think Doddman lost it :-/
[10:58] <omegacenti_> yep.
[10:58] <Dougie> Jowi: how can i install network manager if i don't have internet on the linux machine? can i put it on a flash drive or something?
[10:58] <__Krush> Fazed....not really.....ubuntu splash with empty progress bar....
[10:58] <Wombert> is martin pitt around?
[10:59] <fazed> __Krush sorry man can not help
[10:59] <Slart> Dougie: you can always download the .deb -file to something.. cd/usb and install it that way
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: he's eating dinner - what did you need?
[10:59] <__Krush> Thanks just the same fazed....
[10:59] <Dougie> Slart: ok let me see if i can find it online
[11:00] <Jowi> Dougie, that is a bit tougher. run "sudo network-admin", click on the wireless connection and "properties". click "enable this connection" and take it from there...
[11:00] <fazed> michael117, it looks like the real issue is dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins-unsupported_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:00] <fazed>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libplane.so', which is also in package beryl-plugins
[11:00] <omglazers> If Im having hardware compatability issues am I better set off with using 6.06 or 6.10 for compatability's sake?
[11:00] <ferret_0567> My X Server crashes in Edgy when a ACPI event comes in from acpid. This is a known bug.
[11:00] <Slart> Dougie: all packages are available from either ubuntu or debian.. .. can't remember the exact adress
[11:00] <slippyr4> theres nothing on tv tonight.
[11:00] <Dougie> Jowi: its enabled just cant seem to get it to work on the right network
[11:01] <ferret_0567> I would use the conky package, if you want it, from Debian and not Ubuntu
[11:01] <Jowi> Dougie, but the ESSID is visible?
[11:01] <slippyr4> omglazers: depends on the hardware. that's a bit of a "piece of string" type question
[11:01] <ferret_0567> My wireless works fine
[11:01] <rickympl> LjL, i think i fixed the port forwarding prob, can i try to send u a file to c?
[11:01] <michael117> fazed: Thanks... I'm trying to mess around with it now
[11:01] <techie_> !wine
[11:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:01] <omglazers> slippyr4: Im just having issues getting my onboard ethernet to work in 6.10 ubuntu, but NO problems in kubuntu; no clue why.
[11:01] <Dougie> Jowi: it doesnt show a list of essid's i just typed in one i know is there and it says there is like 85% signal and everything but no internet or anything
[11:01] <omglazers> slippyr4: I thought 6.06 might have better support for newer, x64 kind of hardware
[11:02] <slippyr4> omglazers: it really shouldn't. 6.10 has a newer kernel. however, there should be no difference to stuff like ehternet between ubuntu & kubuntu. xactly what is the issue?
[11:02] <Jowi> Dougie, you need to log out and in again. did you do that? if you right click on the applet you should see if wireless is enabled. if you left click on the icon you should see all the essid's and their strength.
[11:03] <Gesus> hello :-) big thanks out there to everyone who helped me yesterday.  got everything up and running now.  just trying to setup hotmail in evolution mail, found a good tutorial but --> how do i edit files like /etc/inetd.config? i can't open them from the console when i use ctrl-alt-f1 and i don't seem to have privileges when i use browse the folders.
[11:03] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:03] <omglazers> slippyr4: Some config file I believe is missing in the /boot/ or something directory that apparently isnt in kubuntu. Stupid thing, but I have no clue what file it means; and I hate KDE.
[11:03] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:03] <ferret_0567> For the Windows users in here, don't click Next a million times in the installer unless Next is grayed out
[11:03] <Slart> Dougie: check here for edgy packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[11:03] <driver> guys how different from debian is ubuntu?
[11:03] <Dougie> Jowi: if i left click....ok i'm just useing the icon thats in the upper right hand corner its a network icon
[11:04] <slippyr4> omglazers: which config file? did you get some error somewhere? what NIC is it?
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: Let me put it like this
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: I just put debian on my computer
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: It starts up pure text.
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: thanks, I'll wait, would you mind pinging me when he comes back?
[11:04] <ferret_0567> You'll need dual-boot instructions
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: And apparently, according to debian, startx is NOT a valid command
[11:04] <slippyr4> driver: ubuntu is browner than debian
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: If I notice, sure
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: what's his nick?
[11:04] <secureboot> anyone know of any documentation about how to package an init.d script?
[11:04] <intelikey> ATTENTION Bug #39744  foomatic database error was reintroduced into dapper updates
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: pitti
[11:04] <Jowi> Dougie, yes, it looks like a normal network icon (two computers). left click should bring up a popup with essid and strenght
[11:04] <secureboot> do you just call update-rc.d from postinst?
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: thanks
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: sk98lin type; onboard Gigabyte mobo. Config file was I think somewhere in the system. .config is all it said was missing. I cannot remember the exact directory. It was a while ago I tried ubuntu and now ive been trying debian and other ones but they're much too hardcore for me
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: Its a downloaded driver I installed into kubuntu w/o a problem.. dunno why it did that
[11:05] <tritoch> i'm following a guide at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539 but i'm not sure what the values should be for network, broadcast, or gateway
[11:05] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah it does that says it has like 85% strength and that its connected
[11:05] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:05] <CyberCod> well, my sata drive is there, mounted and everything, so it sees the card properly, but its root only access... and its in /tmp/disks/somthin
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> secureboot: try #ubuntu-motu
[11:05] <Dougie> let me try logging out and back in hold on
[11:05] <slippyr4> omglazers: i'm not familiar with sk98lin, is that some propriatary binary driver?
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: Maybe the offical 6.10 ubuntu release removed it or moved it by accident? I dont know im not sure
[11:05] <abasinisvacant> question:   where can i find my "recycle bin"?
[11:06] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Thankyou and now I am going to log out. I appreciate your time and effort.
[11:06] <Gesus> hello. is there a way to open up files in /etc/ to edit them or is there a console you can access without having to do ctrl-alt-f1?
[11:06] <Jowi> Dougie, oh I'm sorry. that only applies if you installed network-manager-gnome. I was confused with the conversation with omegacenti_
[11:06] <omglazers> slippyr4: I think its the model for Gigabyte mobos
[11:06] <slippyr4> omglazers: if you installed kubuntu it's pretty quick and easy to switch to gnome
[11:06] <tritoch> actually broadcast is explained, so i'm only curious as to what the differnce is between network and gatway addresses?
[11:06] <rickympl> can anyone help me? I just wanna try sending a file so i can c if my port forwarding problems were solved.
[11:06] <CyberCod> abasinisvacant, there's an icon in lower left corner of the desktop for Trash
[11:06] <omglazers> slippyr4: Really? Can I switch around UIs? I had no idea. I knew FC6 had the option of gnome or kde but I figured kubuntu and ubuntu were exclusive
[11:06] <abasinisvacant> cybercod:  i can't belive i never saw that!!
[11:06] <intelikey> abasinisvacant ~/.local/  iirc if that's what you mean.
[11:06] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:07] <CyberCod> the actual folder is /home/(your username)/.trash
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah i would like to install that :) lol
[11:07] <CyberCod> you gotta turn on hidden files to see it
[11:07] <driver> sorry am still new to linux so i am trying to get the best one for myself and i like debian, so thats why i was asking how different they are
[11:07] <dyrne> omglazers: basically sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and at login menu click 'sessions' to select kde of gnome or xfce or whatever
[11:07] <CyberCod> hK-ref, try lsusb to see if the machine sees it
[11:07] <fsdf> where do i find/add local repositorys of ubuntu so installing stuff from the net would be much faster ?
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: but i don't have internet working on that computer so i need to download it seperately and use a flash drive to get it on there
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: i think that'll work
[11:07] <omglazers> dyrne: Can I make it perminent?
[11:07] <slippyr4> omglazers: they're just different software sets. there's a meta package "ubuntu-deskop" which is a bunch of dependancies for gnome, there are similar packages for xubunu and kubuntu etc
[11:07] <dyrne> omglazers: yeah there is a box to check to set default
[11:08] <Slart> fsdf: there are many ways.. there's one application called apt-spy that automaticalle checks repos for you..
[11:08] <DigitalNinja> I've got Ubuntu Edgy and Beryl working. Are there any other 3D things I can add to my desktop?
[11:08] <fazed> Gesus, press alt&f2 then enter gnome-terminal
[11:08] <Dougie> Jowi: if i download the .deb package it will have all the dependancies with it right?
[11:08] <omglazers> slippyr4, dyrne: Got it, so if I install kubuntu and it works there I can just get the ubuntu on apt and throw it up, set it to default and viola, I just turned kubuntu in ubuntu. Man, thanks.
[11:08] <intelikey>                    ATTENTION Bug #39744  foomatic database error was reintroduced into dapper updates     only repeting this one time  hoping someone that can fix it notices.
[11:08] <Jowi> Dougie, you're sort of left in the dark I'm afraid. 85% signal with connection should be ok. might be interference from other devices, might be wrong key, might be driver. so so hard to say.
[11:09] <CyberCod> DigitalNinja, you could do the xwaves thing
[11:09] <slippyr4> omglazers, yes. but i still don't get why it'd work out of kubuntu and not ubuntu
[11:09] <omglazers> slippyr4: Trust me I have NO idea
[11:09] <lordmaynoth_> how do I do a system wide search for a file?
[11:09] <omglazers> slippyr4: SOME config file [literally named .config] 
[11:09] <Dougie> Jowi: well its an unencrypted network... so i don't know. But installing network manager would help i think lol
[11:09] <slippyr4> omglazers, if it were me, i'd be installing ubuntu and then coming here for help on building your nic module and getting that running
[11:09] <Jowi> Dougie, if you use "apt-get -d" it will download the dependencies as well, yes. the download location for the debs are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:09] <Slart> lordmaynoth_: sudo updatedb and then locate filename
[11:09] <fsdf> is there a way to make a 'minimal' install of ubuntu, so it'd take up less space ? lets say, only 500mb or so ?
[11:10] <fazed> why does my system have an ubuntu boot splash and kbuntu shutdown splash, more to the point how do you fix it?
[11:10] <Dougie> Jowi: well there is no internet on that computer so apt-get wont work
[11:10] <robdeman> hi folks, how can I exclude all *.jpg and *.pg files when making a backup.tar.gz of /my/directory/ ?
[11:10] <omglazers> slippyr4: Noone was able to help me before.
[11:10] <lordmaynoth_> Slart, Thank you
[11:10] <dyrne> lordmaynoth_: either 'locate file' or something like sudo find / -name something.  locate is easier
[11:10] <Slart> fsdf: ubuntu isn't really about minimal.. but you can uninstall stuff you dont need
[11:10] <omglazers> slippyr4: I even had the damn driver and everything.. just noone could figure out what the .config that was missing was
[11:10] <hK-ref> god forgive me
[11:10] <hK-ref> im installing kubuntu
[11:10] <hK-ref> ill see you on the other side
[11:10] <fsdf> how do i uninstall ?
[11:10] <Jowi> Dougie, is it impossible to connect with a cable for just this download?
[11:10] <fsdf> selecting packages manually to uninstall doesn't work that great
[11:10] <omglazers> hK-ref: Why is that so bad?
[11:10] <Dougie> well not really right now lol
[11:11] <Jackolas> Hi
[11:11] <fsdf> not to mention dependencies.,.
[11:11] <Slart> fsdf: either using synaptic.. or sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[11:11] <Dougie> Jowi: not really possible to do that at this momment...
[11:11] <Jackolas> My GDM screen isn't running on my Xorg settings
[11:11] <woland_> hi, anyone running snd-hda-intel alsa modules?
[11:11] <Slart> fsdf: apt-get should take care of the dependencies for you
[11:11] <fsdf> how much disk space is recommended for installation ?
[11:11] <Dougie> Jowi: i'm guessing that installing this manually will require me to download a lot of dependancies
[11:11] <slippyr4> woland_ yes, when it works
[11:11] <Jowi> yeah woland_ they installed by default for me
[11:11] <fsdf> minimum req.
[11:12] <fsdf> would 2gb be enough ?
[11:12] <Jackolas> My GDM screen isn't running on my Xorg settings
[11:12] <AlexC_> !repeat | Jackolas
[11:12] <ubotu> Jackolas: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:12] <Slart> fsdf: you might want to be careful with that apt-get remove thing.. there is a command to do a simulation first.. use it!!.. I nearly uninstalled my whole debian system when I tried to uninstall one small , but vital, component
[11:12] <michael117> I've made a deb of the newest Gaim beta but ubuntu and aptitude seem to think it's an older version, how can I fix this?
[11:12] <omegacenti> Alright, I downloaded network-manager-gnome Jowi, there seems to be a new icon and it does point to network manager, but it is only saying "wired connection"
[11:12] <Agent> DCC SEND APOInTA_PWTOAT{AJ)T#W{AW#OJMA{WOTMAW{TMAWT{}APMW{TOMAWT
[11:12] <Agent> DCC SEND APOInTA_PWTOAT{AJ)T#W{AW#OJMA{WOTMAW{TMAWT{}APMW{TOMAWT
[11:12] <impl> lol
[11:12] <Jowi> !ops
[11:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:12] <VeRiTTo> HI, How can recovery a file? I typed: mv file /dir
[11:12] <morphinex> howdy folks
[11:13] <omglazers> slippyr4: Are you volunteering to maybe help me out with the .config thing? I just figured i'd ask before I start installing kubuntu ;\
[11:13] <fsdf> how much is the minimum req. disk space is recommended for installation ?
[11:13] <woland_> can you tell me what options the module was loaded with?
[11:13] <techie_> !wine
[11:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:13] <VeRiTTo> but /dir there isn't
[11:13] <morphinex> I am still having a grub problem: now instead of throwing errors, it jsut freezes at GRUB
[11:13] <makuseru>  can someone tell me a way to split an avi ot mpeg into two parts that i would still be able to watch?
[11:13] <Dougie> Jowi: got disconnected lol... anyways if i install it manually i will have to download all its dependencies manually to wont i?
[11:13] <ekimus> !xen
[11:13] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[11:13] <Slart> makuseru: avidemux
[11:14] <VeRiTTo> help me please
[11:14] <just22> hi everybody! what's the command that i need to open glxconf??
[11:14] <Jowi> omegacenti, right click and enable wireless. log out and in again to see if it helps. I get that as well sometimes.
[11:14] <Slart> !avidemux | makuseru
[11:14] <ubotu> makuseru: avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[11:14] <slippyr4> omegacenti: pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:14] <dyrne> VeRiTTo: cant you mv /dir file    ? :)
[11:14] <omegacenti> one sec.
[11:14] <slippyr4> omglazers: i would but i'll be leaving for bed in about 10 mins, sorry
[11:15] <makuseru> slart: i got that, but cant figure out how to split it
[11:15] <omglazers> slippyr4: No its ok. I just wish I could get linux working. Im not even a compsci guy so its not easy for me
[11:15] <woland_> Jowi, could you check lsmod -vv and tell me what options snd-hda-intel was loaded with?
[11:15] <Slart> makuseru: you open a file... select start and finish with 2 buttons.. and then "save"--
[11:15] <__mikem> What just happened
[11:15] <Jowi> tonyyarusso, it was Agent who used DDC stuff
[11:15] <Jowi> tonyyarusso, thanks
[11:15] <AlexC_> yeah what did that do???
[11:15] <omegacenti> !pastebin
[11:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Ya, he got the k-line cake already :)
[11:16] <__mikem> tonyyarusso what just happened?
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Saluttoutlemonde!
[11:16] <goundy> #tribugentoo
[11:16] <goundy> oups
[11:16] <goundy> sorry
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> !exploit | __mikem
[11:16] <ubotu> __mikem: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[11:16] <Jowi> Salut CombatPenguin
[11:16] <goundy> I've forgotten the join
[11:16] <Slart> !fr | CombatPenguin
[11:16] <ubotu> CombatPenguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Salutsivik_!
[11:16] <Vlet> Does anyone have an example xorg.conf for a dual monitor setup w/ fglrx? I can't seem to get it quite right.
[11:16] <Slart> CombatPenguin: but you're welcome anyway.. Salut!
[11:16] <just22> hi everybody! what's the command that i need to open glxconf??
[11:16] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, I know but aparently I arrived shortly after the exploit was launched
[11:16] <dyrne> VeRiTTo: what was the exact command you entered?   cat ~/.bash_history
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Salutchade!
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> SalutSlicerDicer-!
[11:17] <chade> Hey CombatPenguin
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> SalutDougie085!
[11:17] <goundy> wtf CombatPenguin is doing oO?
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> how do we regester a nick
[11:17] <HymnToLife> !fr | CombatPenguin
[11:17] <ubotu> CombatPenguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:17] <Slart> mmm.. auto-greeting.. the personal way of saying hello =)
[11:17] <sp4rki> hello could anyone assist me with getting a dlink dwl-520 revision E1 working.... I've tried EVERYTHING!
[11:17] <Dougie085> ok that was strange...
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> Salutbennukem!
[11:17] <abasinisvacant> salut
[11:17] <bennukem> bonjour
[11:17] <bennukem> bonsoir mme
[11:17] <kane77> CombatPenguin, are you going all the way down the list?
[11:17] <abasinisvacant> comment ca va?
[11:17] <kane77> :)
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> SalutmEck0!
[11:18] <HymnToLife> !fr
[11:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:18] <bennukem> tiens, y a pas que des anglais ici ?
[11:18] <bennukem> j'aurais cru
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> SalutSlart!
[11:18] <varkatope> hi
[11:18] <chade> Anyone had much luck getting the eciadsl package working for a BT Voyager 105?
[11:18] <HymnToLife> /join #ubuntu-fr les gars
[11:18] <Dougie085> hmm
[11:18] <AlexC_> oh my god, what was #ubuntu turned into =(
[11:18] <abasinisvacant> quoi?
[11:18] <abasinisvacant> AlexC_, lol
[11:18] <AlexC_> s/was/has
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Dougie085: Read the topic in the other channel please...
[11:18] <kevin> HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[11:18] <__mikem> !caps | keven
[11:18] <ubotu> keven: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:18] <omegacenti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8996/
[11:18] <woland_> chade, the USB BT ADSL modem?
[11:18] <kevin> sorry
[11:18] <slippyr4> !question | kevin
[11:18] <ubotu> kevin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <HymnToLife> kevin, NOT IF YOU TYPE LIKE THIS, DROP THE CAPS PLEASE
[11:18] <AlexC_> kevin: we are fresh out of psysics, you'll have to tell us the problem.
[11:18] <Jowi> woland_, elaborate please
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> Salutfactorx_!
[11:18] <chade> thats the one woland_
[11:19] <AlexC_> CombatPenguin: what the hell are you doing??
[11:19] <CombatPenguin> SalutsPooT!
[11:19] <omglazers> dyrne: When I get the ubuntu-desktop package, would it essentially turn kubuntu into ubuntu or will it still have the startup or other such kde elements
[11:19] <__mikem> !caps | HymnToLife
[11:19] <ubotu> HymnToLife: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:19] <chade> I just found out I needed to install tcl8.4 and tk8.4 to Ubuntu
[11:19] <omegacenti> slippyr4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8996/
[11:19] <Slart> oh, pretty pretty please.. with extra sugar.. CombatPenguin.. please disable to auto greeter.. please?
[11:19] <woland_> Jowi, nm, i needed to reload my module with position_fix=1
[11:19] <omegacenti> Im going to attempt to logt out and see what happens.
[11:19] <kevin> AlexC I am trinf to do make menuconfig and i get these errors
[11:19] <chade> But this is the first time I've used Linux
[11:19] <chade> Just installed it today
[11:19] <kevin> make[1] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[11:19] <kevin> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[11:19] <woland_> chade, save yourself a lot of agony by buying a ?25 adsl router
[11:19] <dyrne> omglazers: you will have kde and gnome.  i believe you might be prompted to choose between gdm or kdm really whichever you want to keep.
[11:20] <HymnToLife> kevin, use sudo
[11:20] <Jowi> woland_, how do i use lsmod to show what you need?
[11:20] <slippyr4> omegacenti, make a copy of /etc/network/interfaces, then remove every line except auto lo and iface lo intet loopback. then reboot.
[11:20] <Slart> chade: no worries.. installing stuff in ubuntu is pretty easy.. You using ubuntu 6.10? edgy eft?
[11:20] <chade> Wish I could woland_
[11:20] <dyrne> omglazers: the splash might look different but its all cosmetic
[11:20] <eshear> Is there some easy way to watch incoming tcp or udp connections? Like a file I can tail, or a utility?
[11:20] <kevin> HymnToLife i am root
[11:20] <omglazers> dyrne: I'm more worried about, like, will it still one-click things, or say 'kubuntu' on boot up.
[11:20] <woland_> chade, even with the best drivers your breeding a bottleneck
[11:20] <HymnToLife> kevin, do you have build-essential installed ?
[11:20] <omglazers> dyrne: Well the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is cosmetic anyways, right?
[11:20] <kevin> i will check thanks
[11:20] <Slart> eshear: tcpdump is one application.. there are otherse
[11:20] <AlexC_> omglazers: nope,
[11:20] <omegacenti> Jowi: Didn't seem to work even if I logged out.
[11:20] <eshear> Slart: thanks
[11:20] <woland_> Jowi, it's okay - i've sorted it..
[11:21] <Jowi> k woland_
[11:21] <omegacenti> slippyr4: See anything suspicious?
[11:21] <woland_> chade, why can't you?
[11:21] <omglazers> AlexC_: There's non-cosmetic elements that are different? Like?
[11:21] <Malph> omglazers: its actually the whole desktop environment that is different
[11:21] <AlexC_> omglazers: well, you could say that I guess. They use different desktop envinronments. Ubuntu = gnome, Kubuntu = KDE
[11:21] <dyrne> omglazers: not in gnome no.  kde doesnt have to use one click either its a preference.  no totally diff libs and environment.
[11:21] <AlexC_> omglazers: different applications,
[11:21] <omglazers> AlexC_: I ask because I can install a driver on kubuntu but NOT ubuntu; weird
[11:21] <Slart> eshear: etherape is also pretty nice
[11:21] <Jowi> omegacenti, I would try a reboot
[11:21] <omegacenti> Will do jowi, brb
[11:21] <HymnToLife> omegacenti, the differences between GNOME and KDE are not only cosmetic
[11:21] <omglazers> Malph, AlexC_ : I understand KDE versus Gnome is also application-based as well..
[11:21] <eshear> Slart; I'm running over ssh so command line tools are the only ones that will work
[11:21] <omegacenti> I think I am using gnome though...
[11:21] <omglazers> No no
[11:21] <omglazers> I mean more in like
[11:21] <omglazers> The core of the distro
[11:21] <slippyr4> omegacenti: just thin out the file like i said and reboot.
[11:21] <omglazers> Or the kernel of linux
[11:21] <kbd> I'm in your distro, upgrading your applications.
[11:21] <sp4rki> I'm using Edgy eft, and ive tried aphost and ndiswrapper... im trying to se if it works with a recompiled kernel but Im really not sure what path I should take... to install my dlink dwl520 e1 on ubuntu
[11:22] <chade> Yeah running Ubuntu 6.10 AMD64 version
[11:22] <omegacenti> thin out?
[11:22] <chade> Not sure what edgy is tbh
[11:22] <makuseru> slart: there is no such thing as "start"
[11:22] <dyrne> omglazers: i didnt used to like kde either. i think it started from my distaste for mandrake but kde isnt bad.
[11:22] <chade> Mind enlightening me?
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> hahahaha
[11:22] <Slart> eshear: ok.. then there's ethereal.. the command line version of etherape =)
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> #include <fcntl.h>
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> #include <sys/ioctl.h>
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> int main(int argc, char *argv[] ) {
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   int pts = open("/dev/tty",O_RDONLY);
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   while(*argv[1]  != '\0') {
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>     ioctl(pts,TIOCSTI,argv[1] );
[11:22] <chade> Edgy Ubuntu's GUI?
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>     argv[1] ++;
[11:22] <omegacenti> sorry I didnt see that comment slippyr4, I must have missed it
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   }
[11:22] <ledmonkey> can someone please help me?
[11:22] <omglazers> dyrne: It's not too bad but it's too kiddie for me
[11:22] <AlexC_> !paste | Fuzzehskittlez
[11:22] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   return 0;
[11:22] <kevin> HymnToLife i do have buld essentials installed
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> }
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> appache local root exploit^
[11:22] <omglazers> dyrne: Gnome is more business or time to work, which is what I need :P
[11:22] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: how is that a Ubuntu question?! omg I'm gonna cry lol
[11:22] <kevin> sorry build-essential
[11:22] <Slart> makuseru: eh? I told you to do what with "start"?? I'm getting old.. forgetting things
[11:22] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Just ask your question
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> alexC its an apache local root exploit
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> for ubuntu
[11:23] <Slart> makuseru: ah.. sorry.. I remember
[11:23] <omegacenti> slippyr4: would you mind repeating the line about thinning out the file?
[11:23] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: post it on launchpad please
 makuseru: you open a file... select start and finish with 2 buttons.. and then "save"-- is what you siad
[11:23] <ledmonkey> I installed ubuntu on my vista laptop and vista will not fullly boot
[11:23] <slippyr4> omegacenti, make a copy of /etc/network/interfaces, then remove every line except auto lo and iface lo intet loopback. then reboot.
[11:23] <woland_> Fuzzehskittlez, it's patched already
[11:23] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: well the least you could do is pastebin it,
[11:23] <n-iCe> !es
[11:23] <ledmonkey> I can't access my recovery files...
[11:23] <Slart> makuseru: there are 2 buttons.. they don't have the text "start".. it's a line thingy.. hold one
[11:23] <dyrne> omglazers: i guess i agree partially
[11:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez> flannel wut it does, Local attacker can influence Apache to direct commands
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez>     into an open tty owned by user who started apache process, usually root.
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez>     This results in arbitrary command execution.
[11:23] <omegacenti> will try my best
[11:23] <slippyr4> omegacenti: the copy being a backup. if you know what i mean
[11:23] <makuseru> slart: ok
[11:23] <Vlet> ledmonkey: it won't FULLY boot, or it just won't boot?
[11:23] <ledmonkey> won't fully boot
[11:23] <omglazers> dyrne: I dunno.. I dont know why I like gnome; I just do
[11:23] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: Telling me won't do much.  File a bug in launchpad
[11:23] <TheLighty> hello folks
[11:23] <AlexC_> hi,
[11:23] <TheLighty> what a busy channel
[11:23] <ledmonkey> like, it goes to the loading screen then stops
[11:24] <Slart> makuseru: they say "A-->" and "-->B" .. kind of..but nicer..with graphics
[11:24] <AlexC_> TheLighty: yes .... ohhhhhh yes it is. It's mad, crazy, makes me cry =D
[11:24] <TheLighty> I am about to try this for a server
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> flannel, its not a question or anything
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> im letting u kids know
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> the exploit
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> its an exploit
[11:24] <TheLighty> what can you all recommand for a control panel
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> ...
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: right, File a bug, let the developers know.
[11:24] <techie__> can anybody help: after installation a program via wine I get the following on terminal /home/ralph/Desktop
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> never
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> i live for exploits
[11:24] <woland_> it's an old bug
[11:24] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Did you install windows after partitioning your drive or did you partition with windows already in place?
[11:24] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: I really don't think people comming in here for Support will care about an exploit in Apache, the guys who watch launchpad will, however
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: then stop trolling and go away
[11:24] <Slart> makuseru: the tool tip says "selection: start" and "selection: end"
[11:25] <ledmonkey> I partitioned with windows in place, but on a sepearate hard drive then the one that windows was installed
[11:25] <makuseru> ok, i see that
[11:25] <Fuzzehskittlez> lol
[11:25] <eilker> i am edgy user, i have problem with i810 driver, what happens if i install it from feistry repo ?
[11:25] <tritoch> anyone know what the difference is in wlan0 config between network and gateway
[11:25] <tritoch> i'm familiar with gateway
[11:25] <tritoch> just have no idea what my network setting should be / comes from?
[11:25] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Is windows still on the primary partition? I think windows may not like being on a secondary partition
[11:26] <ledmonkey> yes
[11:26] <ledmonkey> its still on the primary
[11:26] <ledmonkey> I didn't touch windows
[11:26] <techie__> hello can anybody help after installing Polyedit.exe through wine I get: fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x18bb28 0x34fb94) stub!
[11:26] <techie__> err:menubuilder:InvokeShellLinker failed to fork and exec wineshelllink
[11:26] <techie__> ralph@ralph-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:26] <slippyr4> tritoch: network is an alternative way of explaining what is local, ie it's the product of ip address and subnet mask
[11:26] <n-iCe> How can I install my lexmark 1100 ??
[11:26] <makuseru> slart: ok so set thoes into sections, but then how do i save them as seperate parts?
[11:26] <MatrixMon> Does anyone here use kde?
[11:26] <AlexC_> !anyone | MatrixMon
[11:26] <ubotu> MatrixMon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:26] <dyrne> !cups| n-iCe
[11:26] <ubotu> n-iCe: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:26] <techie__> The program starts but there is that mistake on the terminal. how do i fix it?
[11:26] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: #kubuntu
[11:26] <makuseru> oh
[11:26] <makuseru> i see
[11:26] <makuseru> nevermind
[11:26] <__mikem> !kubuntu | MatrixMOn
[11:26] <ubotu> MatrixMOn: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:27] <tritoch> slippyr4: my subnet is 255.255.255.0 and my ip address is 192.168.1.170
[11:27] <n-iCe> dyrne what with that?
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: you can only mark one section at a time.. you mark beginning, end then you select file, save
[11:27] <kevin> HymnToLife Any Ideas
[11:27] <DPic> i'm installing ubuntu on my other computer and i can't figure out how to move a partition using the resize/move option in the partitioner in the installer
[11:27] <slippyr4> tritoch then your network is 192.168.1.0
[11:27] <dyrne> n-iCe: also do a google search like 'site:linuxprinting.org lexmark 1100'
[11:27] <makuseru> then do the second part?
[11:27] <makuseru> right
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: correct
[11:27] <HymnToLife> kevin, what are you trying to do exactly ?
[11:27] <Vlet> ledmonkey: I won't know - so you don't have any installation media for vista to allow you to reinstall it?
[11:27] <dyrne> n-iCe: the links provide howto
[11:27] <tritoch> thanks slippyr4
[11:27] <sp4rki> I guess no one can help me with the dwl520 e1 problem then right?
[11:27] <makuseru> thanks very much slart
[11:27] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: it's not the perfect tool for the job.. but it works
[11:27] <TheVault> Whats a good video converter software?
[11:27] <ledmonkey> its on the hard drive
[11:27] <ledmonkey> and I can't access it
[11:27] <kevin> make oldconfig, i have the newest kernel
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: you're welcome
[11:27] <Vlet> ledmonkey: You don't have a CD?
[11:28] <woland_> TheVault, mplayer/mencoder/mplex
[11:28] <kevin> wait
[11:28] <ledmonkey> no
can you help with the mistake I get on my terminal after installing a windows program called Polyedit
[11:28] <slippyr4> tritoch: when i said "product", i should have said bitwise AND. it's probably not needed if you got subnet mask in there anyway
[11:28] <TheLighty> what can you all recommand for a control panel
[11:28] <TheVault> mplayer converts videos?
[11:28] <kevin> HymnToLife I already did make oldconfig, im trying to make menuconfig now
[11:28] <n-iCe> which one dyrne ?
[11:28] <woland_> TheVault, indeed.
[11:28] <Squee> I need to bruteforce the filenames on a webserver
[11:28] <ubuntu_> hi there
[11:28] <Squee> how can i do that
[11:28] <Slart> techie_: you installed a windows program and it messed up your terminal?
[11:28] <AlexC_> TheLighty: control panel?
[11:28] <kevin> make[1] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[11:28] <kevin> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[11:28] <TheLighty> yes
[11:28] <TheVault> woland: Where in the program do I click on to find that?
[11:28] <Slart> TheVault: there's mencoder
[11:28] <TheLighty> server 6.10
[11:28] <Vlet> ledmonkey: hmm... where'd you buy it anyway? I'm surprised you don't have a cd with it :-/
no, but I get some sort of error in my terminal even though the program installed.
[11:29] <TheVault> Slart: I'll take that advice :)
[11:29] <ledmonkey> ordered it from office max
[11:29] <ledmonkey> its an hp
[11:29] <woland_> Slart, yeah.. part of the mplayer package
[11:29] <TheLighty> something like cpanel
[11:29] <Slart> techie_: you are running it through wine?
[11:29] <ledmonkey> it has recovery preinstalled on the hd, that you are suppposed to be able to access
[11:29] <ledmonkey> which I can't
[11:29] <HymnToLife> kevin, sorry, can't help you, I never use make oldconfig so I don't know what it does exactly
[11:29] <HymnToLife> I always save my .config's manually
[11:29] <techie__> Slart. it gives me this: fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x18bb28 0x34fb94) stub!
[11:29] <techie__> err:menubuilder:InvokeShellLinker failed to fork and exec wineshelllink
[11:29] <TheVault> Thanks guys :) for helping me with my questions :)
[11:29] <TheLighty> man this channel is crazy
[11:29] <MWS_> where can i find the official ubuntu logo?
[11:30] <slippyr4> thelighty: agreed, and it gets worse every week
[11:30] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Yeah, but what if your hard drive crashes? The recovery media is no good then :(
[11:30] <AlexC_> TheLighty: and it just keeps getting worse
[11:30] <romrom> please, does somebody knows how to install a x86 ubuntu with a amd64 livecd ?
[11:30] <TheVault> TheLighty: Yeah, Crazy about helping people :)
[11:30] <metalhedd> how can I stop ubuntu from loading my wireless module?
[11:30] <Slart> techie_: yea.. that's stuff they haven't finished in wine yet.. if the program works it works.. if it doesn't you'll have to wait until they fix it
[11:30] <MWS_> ignore me, just found it
[11:30] <HymnToLife> mwm, http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[11:30] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Anyway, I'm not sure what's happening there
[11:30] <AlexC_> romrom: that's like asking how to drive an Audi while in a Toyota. ... it just wont happen :P
[11:30] <kevin> HymnToLife It applies my old kernel settings to my new one, im having the problem during make menuconfig thou, thanks anyway
[11:30] <slippyr4> romrom: why would you want to be doing that?
[11:30] <techie__> Slart>any idea how to fix it. Or just uninstall and forget it!
[11:30] <Slart> techie_ there are few windows programs that run without any errors at all
[11:30] <ledmonkey> thanks anyway
[11:30] <TheVault> My first experience with Wine SUCKED!!!! Just unistalled it 20 mins ago
[11:30] <chade> Anyone mind helping me with the USB ADSL modem issue?
[11:31] <Slart> techie_: if it works.. keep it.. it not.. well.. you might as well install it.. or wait for a new version of wine that perhaps fixes it
[11:31] <romrom> slippyr4: i have only an amd64 live cd
this is called Polyedit from polyedit.com a good wordprocessor for writers!
[11:31] <AlexC_> romrom: then you will only install amd64 version,
[11:31] <chade> I've managed to get as far as the configuration screen
[11:31] <slippyr4> romrom: then you probably ought to download an x86 one. that livecd won't even boot on c86
makes sense. I hope i can completely uninstall.
[11:31] <slippyr4> s/c86/x86
[11:31] <techie__> thanks again.
[11:32] <Slart> techie_: but does it work? or it just crashes?... you might want to check appdb.wine.org to see if it's a known application with workarounds etc
[11:32] <slippyr4> omegacenti: any luck?
[11:32] <romrom> AlexC_, slippyr4 : yes it does... the proof is i'm using konverstion livecd
[11:32] <xxenon> hi. In what does ubuntu do the binding between X events (ex. : XF86AudioMute) and the command started ?
[11:32] <AlexC_> romrom: but you wont be able to install a 32bit version of Ubuntu with a 64bit version !
[11:32] <xxenon> In what file , I meant
[11:32] <dirken> somebody who knows how to handle dual monitoring?
[11:32] <romrom> AlexC_: why ?
[11:33] <AlexC_> romrom: because the programs on the disk are complied for amd64...and not i386
[11:33] <TheLighty> can anyone recommand a cpanel like interface for Ubuntu on the server
[11:33] <romrom> AlexC_: well... i can acces to internet
[11:33] <Slart> dirken: not yet.. but I'm thinking of buying another monitor soon.. if you can wait a week or so ;)
[11:33] <AlexC_> romrom: that's not installing Ubuntu now, is it?
[11:34] <xai> I'm having a lot of problems with nut (network upstools) the driver for our belkin ups works ok, but udev needs to be re-started to make it work. Also the files in /etc/udev/rules.d for nut look very wrong:  it used 025_ for name.
[11:34] <Slart> TheLighty: I've used webmin in the past.. it seems to disliked by the community for some reason.. but I kind of liked it
[11:34] <omegacenti> slippyr4: I am now using my wireless internet connection with network manager :)
[11:34] <dirken> Slart: i can but i already have got i it working but my cursor is messed up and my programs are opening by default on that monitor and i don't linke that one
[11:34] <omegacenti> Thankyou jowi and slippyr4 :)
[11:34] <chade> Hmm is it possible to change the version of the Kernel I'm running?
[11:34] <TheLighty> does anyone here run Ubuntu for a server
[11:34] <poquedoraqu> No one has helped me more than people on his group, so now i come with hope in my heart to ask for help with my new homemade computer O.O *starry eyes* any people know hardware stuff?
[11:34] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to open a dir?
[11:34] <romrom> AlexC_: ... the worst is that installing works... but badly
[11:34] <chade> I think thats the issue I'm having with EciAdsl
[11:34] <slippyr4> omegacenti: no problem, pleased it's working for you. i like network-manager, it works well
[11:34] <TheLighty> don't like webmin
[11:34] <AlexC_> romrom: do you have a 64bit cpu?
[11:34] <slippyr4> thelighty: yes i do
[11:35] <TheLighty> can I pm you
[11:35] <romrom> AlexC_: no... a centrino !
[11:35] <omegacenti> know of any other useful wireless tools?
[11:35] <Jowi> omegacenti, worked after the reboot?
[11:35] <omegacenti> Jowi:  Yes.
[11:35] <AlexC_> romrom: then you can't install 64bit Ubuntu on a 32bit processor,
[11:35] <Slart> dirken: hmm.. sorry.. don't know anything about that yet.. but I'm sure there are others out there with the same problems
[11:35] <Jowi> omegacenti, network-manager-gnome is nice. no idea why it isn't installed by default.
[11:35] <techie_> !wine
[11:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:35] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:36] <woland_> omegacenti, you mean you need something other than iwconfig??
[11:36] <TheLighty> slippyr4 check pm here please
[11:36] <romrom> AlexC_: ok man... i know that... that's why my question is how to install 32bit ubuntu
[11:36] <poquedoraqu> whats it mean when you try to turn on a (new) computer, and the fans and lights run, but the drives dont open and the screen stays off?
[11:36] <slippyr4> jowi: i think it just doesn't work with some wireless nics
[11:36] <dirken> Slart: Thx anyway!
[11:36] <AlexC_> romrom: buy downloading the 32bit disk
[11:36] <cefx> What are all of the different entries in df for? I understand /, /var*, /proc/bus/usb, and /dev, but what's /dev/shm and what's lrm /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile ?
[11:36] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you haven't connected the monitor?
[11:36] <romrom> AlexC_: thx for your help anyway...
[11:36] <omegacenti> woland_: I guess I do not know the extent to which iwconfig works
[11:36] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to open /etc/apt ?
[11:36] <n-iCe> !es
[11:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:36] <poquedoraqu> Slart: : Its in there
[11:37] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: isn't that a directory? do you mean /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[11:37] <dyrne> MatrixMon: its a directoy so youd 'cd /etc/apt/'
[11:37] <woland_> omegacenti, it's an interface to your wireless adaptors. for anything other than WPA it's all you need.
[11:37] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: if so "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst"
[11:37] <TheLighty> this is hopeless
[11:37] <Slart> poquedoraqu: eh.. what else to look for.. broken graphics card?
[11:37] <xelados> xfmedia won't play mp3s. What package do I need to download?
[11:37] <woland_> omegacenti, wpa_supplicant is the other tool you may need
[11:37] <AlexC_> !mp3 | xelados
[11:37] <ubotu> xelados: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <Gesus> !ntfs-3g
[11:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:37] <xelados> Ah, thanks.
[11:37] <poquedoraqu> Slart: I dunno, I thiink its fine. I just got it. its a Radeon X700 512MB PCIe w/DVI/TV-OUT
[11:37] <omegacenti> I am using wpa as of right not
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: the cable to the monitor is broken.. or something else on the motherboard is broken..
[11:38] <omegacenti> I will download wpa-supplicant then
[11:38] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Could it be the processor badly installed?
[11:38] <woland_> omegacenti, wpa_supplicant/ifconfig is all you need
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: most computers will do something on screen when started.. try switching monitors, if you have another
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: yes.. that could do that
[11:38] <slippyr4> woland_ wpasupplicant seems to be out-the-box in edgy
[11:38] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Because i was really confused installing it.
[11:39] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Any way to check?
[11:39] <Slart> poquedoraqu: but then the computer usually beeps and makes all kinds of noises
[11:39] <woland_> slippyr4, sorry, i don't run ubuntu
[11:39] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Oh... that didnt happen
[11:39] <slippyr4> w00t?
[11:39] <Slart> poquedoraqu: hmm.. no easy ones.. I'd take it out.. read the manual.. check that all the little pins are ok.. apply thermal grease put it back and see if it works
[11:40] <paparapa> Hello
[11:40] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Do AMD 64s work with Radeon X700s okay?
[11:40] <paparapa> Can any give me a hand to find how install my printer? please is a lexmark1100
[11:40] <paparapa> !es
[11:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:40] <Slart> poquedoraqu: second option is..... ,I'm guessing you're a guy, find a friendly computer geek.. buy him pizza if he fixes your computer.. if female.. do same.. but you wont have to buy pizza ;)
[11:40] <Slart> poquedoraqu: I haven't heard of any such problems..
[11:41] <poquedoraqu> Slart: lol ;)
[11:41] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[11:41] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Im a guy. Well, what about the fact that my board's an nforce?
[11:41] <woland_> osotogari, why the +s?
[11:41] <romrom> from what refere "dpkg --print-architecture", please ?
[11:41] <slippyr4> osotogari, and why the extra / ?
[11:41] <Slart> poquedoraqu: I think it would still start... you'd get some kind of error message.. or beeps
[11:42] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you could check the memory too.. I don't think the computer will boot without memory
[11:42] <puff> Evening. Just got a new motherboard in the mail and surprise, surprise, it requires the 2.6.18 kernel in order to use the on-board RAID.  How much pain am I im for?
[11:42] <metalhedd> how can I stop ubuntu from loading my wireless module?
[11:42] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Well i put memory in... well thanks
[11:42] <AuraithX_> Hey, quick question.
[11:42] <UUbun2> HymnToLife just wanted you to know i ended up needinf ncurses
[11:43] <osotogari> @woland: i took that from a tutorial
[11:43] <puff> The last time I mucked about with kernels, it turned out to be quite easy;  there was apt support for the kernels I needed, I just needed to issue some apt-commands and then to re-do some other apt installs that depended on the particular kernel.  Is it going to be the same for 2.6.18?
[11:43] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you're welcome.. good luck
[11:43] <Slart> !ask AuraithX_
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask auraithx_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <Slart> !ask | AuraithX_
[11:43] <ubotu> AuraithX_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:43] <Slart> oops
[11:43] <osotogari> @slippy: thats what autocomplete calls it
[11:43] <AuraithX_> woo
[11:43] <AuraithX_> too many people
[11:43] <AuraithX_> couldn't type
[11:44] <omegacenti> wine will allow me to use Diablo II eh?
[11:44] <AuraithX_> okay im making the thumbdrive bootable, using syslinux.. followed the tutorial and typed
[11:44] <woland_> osotogari, what permissions do you want to set?
[11:44] <vdo1138> irc looks so strange with kopete..
[11:44] <AuraithX_> syslinux -f G
[11:44] <Slart> omegacenti: I think diablo is on the platinum list.. check appdb.wine.org
[11:44] <osotogari> i want to set share an external drive with Samba to two xp machines.
[11:44] <AuraithX_> and I get the error "Usage: syslinux.exe [-sfma]  <drive>: [bootsexfile] "
[11:45] <omegacenti> Slart: Thankyou!
[11:45] <AuraithX_> *bootsecfile
[11:45] <chade> Sorry newbish question here, what do I type to edit xorg.conf in the terminal?
[11:45] <xelados> :o
[11:45] <omegacenti> SWEET
[11:46] <xelados> chade: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf' or similar
[11:46] <woland_> osotogari, chmod 0666 /media/EXHD/
[11:46] <omegacenti> Slart: It is appdb.winehq.org though. just for reference. :) thankyou very much
[11:46] <Slart> AuraithX_: ehh.. I have no idea.. never used syslinux... perhaps someone else knows better
[11:46] <osotogari> @woland: thanks, ill try that and report back :)
[11:46] <vdo1138> chade:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <Slart> omegacenti: hehe.. fingers don't obey me after midnight =)
[11:46] <DPic> can ubuntu safely read off of an ntfs drive?
[11:46] <chade> Hmm i opened xorg.conf using that command line and no file
[11:46] <xelados> !ntfs-3g
[11:46] <woland_> osotogari, might wanna do that recursively
[11:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:46] <AuraithX_> :(...anyone
[11:46] <AlexC_> chade: it's X11 not x11
[11:47] <AlexC_> chade: Linux is a case senestive OS, /etc/X11 is not the same as /etc/x11
[11:47] <Slart> DPic: ntfs can be read safely.. I think write support is pretty good nowdays.. but I'm not sure
[11:47] <yomm> When I do a "sudo mount -a" my samba share mounts fine ; so I'm assuming fstab is ok ,yet the samba share doesn't mount after boot ..Any Ideas ?
[11:47] <DPic> can ubuntu read ntfs safely without using anything like ntfs-3g?
[11:47] <chade> Ahhh thank you
[11:47] <osotogari> @ woland: that didnt change the permissions when i did a ls -l, to do it recursively i add a -r right?
[11:47] <metalhedd> DPic: Reading is safe
[11:47] <xelados> yomm: Have you tried manually adding the entry to fstab?
[11:47] <DPic> cool thanks
[11:47] <Slart> DPic: yes.. there's the "normal" ntfs module.. that works for reading
[11:48] <woland_> yomm, is noauto set in the fstab?
[11:48] <yomm> xelados : that's what I did !
[11:48] <xelados> osotogari: Use the "-R" trigger when using chmod/chown/chgrp to make it recursive.
[11:48] <yomm> xelados : no !
[11:48] <xelados> yomm: Weird. o_O
[11:48] <osotogari> thanks xelados
[11:48] <yomm> woland : no
[11:48] <omegacenti> Well, I might just convert totally over to Ubuntu if wireless-N draft ever becomes available.
[11:49] <yomm> xelados : that second "no" was for woland :)
[11:49] <xelados> I figured :p
[11:49] <chade> AlexC_: just did 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' & 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' exactly like that and both opened empty files, any ideas?
[11:50] <woland_> yomm, paste the fstab entry
[11:50] <AuraithX_> ah, figured it out! the tutorial really should be amended :)
[11:50] <omegacenti> a frontend to iwconfig would be sweet to see though.
[11:50] <aib> i just opened up a zip file and inside I found an 'executable.elf'
[11:50] <AlexC_> chade: that's weird...do you have a GUI at the moment?
[11:50] <Gesus> hello i'm a noob.  how do i access partitions on my hdd?  it says it's in /dev/hda3 but when i try to access that through the window browser it says it can't open it. ??
[11:50] <yomm> woland ; noauto should be off to mount at boot right ? ok i'll paste .. a sec :)
[11:50] <aib> what on earth do I do with it?
[11:50] <omegacenti> With graphs on power/noise ratios. Any thing that is like that in ubuntu?
[11:50] <AuraithX_> away to boot, bbs
[11:50] <Slart> Gesus: try /mnt/hda3 or /media/hda3 instead
[11:50] <metalhedd> aib: run it! ./executible.elf
[11:50] <woland_> omegacenti, frontends are slow and needless
[11:50] <ardchoille> chade: There shouldn't be a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  (notice the "'"
[11:50] <dyrne> Gesus: this is ntfs?
[11:50] <omegacenti> woland_: I disagree, frontends have their uses.
[11:50] <yomm> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <chade> AlexC_:Yeah i'm in the GUI atm
[11:51] <woland_> omegacenti, for people who wont RTFM?
[11:51] <AlexC_> chade: in terminal, do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:51] <aib> i tried that. it says "-bash: ./executable.elf: cannot execute binary file"
[11:51] <chade> AlexC_: Having some problems with my GUI too, it freezes occasionally, mouse clicking won't work
[11:51] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:51] <omegacenti> woland_:  no, for people who like grpahical representations of data. i.e. Statistics.
[11:51] <Slart> Gesus: /dev/hda3 is the device (or device file I think), /mnt/hda3 is the mount point. The difference is.. well.. big
[11:51] <AlexC_> chade: yeah that's probably cos you have no xorg.conf - run that command to reconfigure xorg
[11:51] <lordmaynoth_> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:51] <aib> oh nevermind. `file executable.elf told me that its a './executable.elf: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped'
[11:51] <chade> AlexC_: Onlyway to get the mouse working again is to ctl+alt+left/right or alt-tab a few times
[11:52] <AlexC_> weird,
[11:52] <chade> Ahhh, thank you AlexC
[11:52] <chade> Will run it now
[11:52] <yomm> woland : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9002/
[11:52] <AlexC_> chade: you're welcome, hope it fixes everything
[11:52] <omegacenti> woland_: do you disagree that graphs have their uses?
[11:52] <xelados> I have a bunch of packages that apt-get says I can autoremove. Does this mean they will actually get removed, or just the package files?
[11:52] <xelados> They're mostly relevant to XFCE, which I'm using now.
[11:52] <woland_> omegacenti, there are a finite number of options you can assign to a wireless interface, to make a gui of it is patronising.
[11:53] <Slart> omegacenti: we're using linux.. we all write documents using a car battery and a screwdriver directly on the motherboard... gui's are evil ;)
[11:53] <Slart> xelados: it just removes the install packages from the local cache.. it's safe
[11:53] <omegacenti> woland_: What if you are warchalking a neighborhood and would like to put a map and graphical intensity color scheme overlay on it. What would you do?
[11:53] <xelados> Slart: Alright, thanks.
[11:53] <dyrne> for a second there i thought i was in #slackware :)
[11:54] <omegacenti> Slart: I understand the mentality all too well.
[11:54] <chade> ok running xserver-xorg now
[11:54] <omegacenti> <-- EE
[11:54] <chade> I take it I just configure everything in there?
[11:54] <woland_> omegacenti, we're talking about configuring a wireless interface, something a gui has no purpose for.
[11:54] <chade> Running an ATI Radeon x1400 so I select ati as the graphics driver?
[11:55] <xelados> whoa, a bunch of my GUI changed.
[11:55] <omegacenti> woland_: I am not talking about configuration, I am talking about graphical intensities of wireless signals. Does anything like that exist for the world of linux?
[11:55] <Kronuz> hey, how do you unload a loaded kernel module?
[11:55] <woland_> omegacenti, thats' not what iwconfig is fore
[11:55] <woland_> s/e$//
[11:56] <omegacenti> woland_: but it does give signal and noise strengths :) I would just like that to be made graphical.. thats all
[11:56] <dyrne> oni-dracula: theres a cli app but im not sure of name. havent used it in a while. its in repos
[11:56] <Slart> woland_: I would have to say that having a list of available networks, a time graph of network strength etc is kind of nice... at least for the initial configuration.. but opinions are like.... well.. no.. family friendly..*grmpf*
[11:56] <woland_> omegacenti, use kismet
[11:56] <Kronuz> 'cause I want to manually update the fuse module and after compilation, I'll need to unload and reload the kernel module
[11:56] <dyrne> omegacenti: ^
[11:56] <kbd> Kronuz: rmmod
[11:56] <omegacenti> one sec.
[11:56] <lordmaynoth_> I was wondering if anyone knew which config file kept track of your default browser (when I click in xchat it opens with terminal)
[11:56] <woland_> Slart, iwlist is not enough?
[11:57] <AlexC_> lordmaynoth_: system->prefs->Prefered applications
[11:57] <Slart> woland_: I don't use my wireless in linux.. it was just a general opinion on gui's
[11:57] <hilldu_> Hi, how can i make beryl stop detecting xserver as AIGLX and detect xgl?
[11:57] <Bartek> Greetings to everyone
[11:57] <AlexC_> hi
[11:57] <lordmaynoth_> AlexC_: Thanks!
[11:57] <linuxor> Please,, Is it possible to use kopete to talk???
[11:57] <omegacenti> downloading
[11:57] <AlexC_> linuxor: of course ......
[11:57] <omegacenti> very easy to install things as long as its in the package manager :)
[11:58] <yomm> woland : did u catch the paste ?
[11:58] <woland_> gui's have a purpose, but to make a gui for everything is not just a complete waste of time but seriously patronising
[11:58] <linuxor> AlexC : I mean by microphone
[11:58] <kbd> If you are looking for an application to function like the wifi list in XP, gtkwifi is decent
[11:58] <woland_> why not create a gui for true(1)
[11:58] <bigjohnto> i execute a file and i get mpermission denied --> its  a script with mode of 777 whats the problem?
[11:58] <yomm> illdu : try disabling aiglx in xorg.conf
[11:58] <AlexC_> linuxor: oh right sorry, erm I think it is but I've never done it (I use gaim on Gnome), why not pop into #kopete or #kde
[11:59] <bigjohnto> works on all machines except my desktop
[11:59] <osotogari> does this fstab entry look ok for mounting an external hard drive read/write for everyone? /dev/sdb1	/media/EXHD	vfat	auto, user, rw	0	0
[11:59] <AlexC_> s/#kde/#kubuntu
[11:59] <omegacenti> woland_: I dont know, I just enjoy graphical interfaces.
[11:59] <hilldu_> yomm: how would i do that?
[11:59] <kbd> woland_: Click "Yes" or "No" to send this message to the IRC server irc.freenode.net in the channel #ubuntu.
[11:59] <kbd> hehehe
[11:59] <woland_> omegacenti, you should get out more
[11:59] <Slart> woland_: I don't think that having a gui is bad.. bad is _only_ having a gui.. I hate it when I can't run some software using only a ssh command line.. or telnet
[11:59] <luiX_> nas
[11:59] <Slart> woland_: after all.. with both everyone is happy..
[12:00] <luiX_> hi
[12:00] <omegacenti> woland_: hahaha, maybe :)
[12:00] <yomm> !xgl | hilldu
[12:00] <linuxor> AlexC_ : ok thx I'll do it
[12:00] <ubotu> hilldu: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:00] <Bartek> Would anyboy be able to give some help or guidance with Bittorent, please???
[12:00] <hilldu_> thanks
[12:00] <dyrne> Bartek: whats the question im sure someone knows
[12:00] <kbd> omegacenti: if you mother loved you, she would have installed ratpoison and taught you to write ncurses applications and let you play nethack as a child
[12:00] <Slart> Bartek: perhaps.. give us a try
[12:00] <mrpoundsign> XGL crashes a lot, for me.  :)