nagyvIs there a way to teach openoffice to use kprinter? I have heard about an spadmin program, but aptitude does not now it.12:13
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morticiyettenet: through samba as in winxp/linux or linux to linux?12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
kevini tried loading the drivers for it but it gave me an error that it could not load the module12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:14
yettenetLinux to Windows12:14
morticiyettenet: you want to use samba12:14
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yettenetmortici: Ok... how to?12:14
morticikubuntu? edgy? breezy?12:14
yettenetkubuntu edgy12:14
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Sannenagyv: I remember doing this when I used the binary from openoffice.org as I still used Debian. The spadmin app came with the package. Maybe it's already on your (or my, for that matter) system?12:15
morticiyou should have samba pre installed12:15
adelinebonsoir *12:15
Sannenagyv: I will look around, sec12:15
nagyvSanne: it isn't12:15
yettenetmortici: Installed12:15
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morticiyettenet: now just go to remote places, its the button next to the kmenu12:16
morticithen click on samba12:16
Sannenagyv: 'locate spadmin' gives me two files in /usr/lib/openoffice/program/, try this also.12:16
morticimake sure both computers are on the same workgroup :)12:16
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morticikevin: im searching around12:16
yettenetmortici: Isn't there a command line solution instead? I'd much more appreciate it12:17
Sannenagyv: it even starts if I cll it like that :)12:17
morticikevin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515112:17
nagyvSanne: that's it, here is the setup if you would like to add it too: http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=KDE's_printing_with_OpenOffice.org12:17
morticiyettenet: you mean you want to access shares through a shell?12:17
intelikeywell i prolly just borked somfin else but that should get my printer working12:17
yettenetmortici: I mean I want to SHARE something which is on a Linux computer, not to access it12:18
Sannenagyv: thanks a lot... there's no text in that page, though ;)12:18
morticiyou have no gui?12:18
kevinmortici it says to "Edit this below Section "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse". Make sure you use the right "Device" based on how your pad is connected. ie: USB or serial.12:19
kevini do not know which file it is talking about12:19
kevini have seen this thread b412:19
yettenetmortici: I do, but I like it the old way - typing and such12:19
morticikevin: /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P12:19
nagyvSanne: didn't you missed somehow the link? it works for me12:19
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Sannenagyv: weird. I used the search and found that page, so thanks again :)12:20
morticiyettenet: ok, you will have to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file12:20
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morticithen do smbpasswd -a <username>12:20
morticito add a trusted username/password12:21
eric_what is the path the kde?12:21
Sannenagyv: kprinter is very nice. OpenOffice has it's own pdf output, in case you wanted to use kprinter for that (but I guess you already know that...)12:21
eric_im installing desklist12:21
eric_for kopete12:21
Krisheanwhen i go into the System Settings and try to change the window colors, every once and awhile the entire system will lock up. is there any way to fix this?12:21
morticiyettenet: if you want you can do alt + f2 then type kcontrol and go under internet & networking and click samba and edit a VAST amount of configuration12:22
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morticistuff you really would have to spend days figuring out throught he conf file :P12:22
nagyvSanne: actually I would like to set up a konqueror link to convert things to pdf/print without opening the file, and openoffice has a command line to print, but not to export pdf :)12:22
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igorjrhi, i have problem with samba12:22
yettenetThanks, mortici12:22
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Sannenagyv: ah, clever. I thought this must be for some advanced trickery :)12:23
morticiyettenet: no a problem :P i love sharing, although i found out that Vista refuses linux to access its shares, but will access any linux share with no attitude12:23
morticipos vista gah12:23
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igorjrhi, i have a problem with samba. even though i added a username and assigned a password, it doesn't work when i try to connect with the other pc12:23
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nagyvSanne: I don't know it yet, but will see soon. Never ever wrote a konqueror "extension" before.12:24
unholyskornAnyone ever setup Beryl on kubunut/ubuntu and wanna help me out!?12:24
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rbrunhuberis wwwoffle in feisty not usable if there is not network connection?12:24
Eagle_101how do you take a screen shot on kubuntu?12:24
Sannenagyv: you meand the right click entry thingy? Sevicemenu? I made some, it's very convenient we have that functionality.12:24
test34nagyv, if you right click on the file, choose print and then a PDF wouldnt that work ?12:25
nagyvSanne, test34: that's what I would like to have, but I have no print/pdf option :(12:25
morticiunholyskorn: i have it running just fine12:25
morticiunholyskorn: what vid card do you have?12:25
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Eagle_101how do you do a screenshot? (I'm not in kubuntu, but is there some button you can press somewhere?)12:26
test34nagyv, I have one and I dont think I installed anything extra.. I dont know what make it show up12:26
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morticiigorjr: did you do smbpasswd -a <username>12:26
morticiEagle_101: print screen12:27
igorjri think so12:27
test34nagyv, it just says: Print to File (PDF)12:27
igorjri did everything the wiki-guide told me12:27
eric_has anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete correctly?12:27
morticiigorjr: what wiki guide?12:27
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nagyvtest34: I have a print option for htmls, but not for odt-s or pdf-s12:27
Eagle_101mortici, and where is that? (on the keyboard?)12:27
igorjrmortici: there is an guide available12:27
morticiright next to f1212:27
morticiigorjr: link me :P12:27
igorjrmortici: kk12:27
morticiEagle_101: should be next to f1212:28
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Eagle_101ok thanks :D12:28
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igorjrbut it would appreciate it very much, if you could help me anyways12:29
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unholyskornMortici i have the ati aiw radeon x800xt12:29
igorjri half the way to madness12:29
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unholyskornim trying to Creating the login session entry12:29
morticiunholyskorn: eeeek i don't know how to do it with a ati card, ive only done nvidia and intel, ask in #beryl i know xsacha is runnig on a ati card and can help you12:30
morticiigorjr: gimmie a sec i know it was never extreamly complicated for me to share12:30
morticido you want authentication? as in a user name and password, and do you want read and write?12:30
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lordmaynoth_does anyone know if these errors are because I need something for QT installed12:30
igorjri want read and write in the folders i share12:31
igorjri want to copy the 6.10 kubunto iso, so i can burn it12:31
igorjrdon't have a cd-writer in my pc12:31
morticilordmaynoth_: what is that from, and no qt is fine its talking about some device12:31
morticiso your trying to share a folder on your linux box? and access it from a winxp?12:32
igorjrmortici: the other pc is a windows machine, as you probably guessed12:32
test34nagyv, how about from the command line ?12:32
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors12:32
xnplordmaynoth_: you have to edit your xorg.conf to remove some wacom things12:32
xnpcause you dont use them12:32
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joellordmaynoth_: Looks like harmless warnings. Do you have an issue with the application?12:33
nagyvtest34: what you mean?12:33
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test34nagyv, something like: http://blog.vojta.name/archives/2005/04/03/T23_43_03/12:33
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morticiigorjr: how about you try this, it might be easier, press alt + f2 then type kcontrol then go to internet & network and click on samba, click administrator mode and add your share12:34
eMaXne1 here uses cvs on ubuntu? for some reason I keep getting connection refused12:35
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igorjrmortici: trying12:35
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morticiigorjr: that wiki is wacky i never did any of that stuff12:35
igorjrah, but i started from 0 about 3 days ago12:36
igorjrgives me a feeling of security in this very complicated world of linux12:36
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morticiigorjr: you can also do it the simple way of right clicking on the folder going to properties then click on the share tab and then configure sharing :P12:36
igorjrofcouse, but i get the login-window anyway12:37
igorjrnearly made me crazy12:37
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igorjrworked, can acces now12:37
morticiigorjr: i know :P12:37
igorjrthank you very much ;)12:38
morticinot a problem :D12:38
Sanneigorjr: do you have the links to the official ubuntu and kubuntu wikis?12:38
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stdineMaX: I use it all the time, works here12:39
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igorjrno, sanne12:39
raindog Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)12:39
stdin!wiki | Sanne12:39
ubotuSanne: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation12:39
unholyskornhow do i copy files in kubuntu terminal?12:40
Sanneigorjr: here there are: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ https://help.ubuntu.com/12:40
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Sannestdin: thanks, that was mainly for igorjr ;)12:40
unholyskornsudo copy xgl-desktop /usr/share/xsessions12:40
stdinSanne: :P12:40
eMaXstdin: what did you do to make it listen?12:41
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stdineMaX: listen ?12:41
tarnoldoi oi12:41
unholyskornHow do i copy files in terminal?!12:41
Sanneigorjr: also the help entry on your kmenu is very helpful if you're starting out with Linux and Kubuntu.12:41
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stdineMaX: ahh, the server12:41
stdineMaX: hmm, it should work12:41
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eMaXI have cvspserver      2401/tcp and /udp in /etc/services yet that's apparently not sufficient12:42
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igorjrthx, sanne12:42
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igorjrcan you tell me, how to set all samba settings to default?12:42
Sanneigorjr: in the server guide in there there's even a chapter about samba, maybe you want to have a look at that also.12:42
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tarnoldwhat is a good KDE music player?12:44
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K`zanAnyone have an idea why this mounts, but doesn't show up when running "df":12:44
stdintarnold: amarok12:44
K`zanxxx.xxx.xxx.xx:/nettmp    /nettmp         nfs     defaults 0      012:44
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Sannetarnold: most people would recommend amarok. For me, it's xmms, a bit old school, but I like the simplicity.12:44
Sannetarnold: I have to add, xmms is not kde per se, it's a gtk1 app.12:45
tarnoldhow do get the add printer option?12:45
lordmaynoth_xnp,  what wacom things do I need to remove?12:46
tarnoldim looking at a book: moving to linux kiss the blue screen of death good bye- chp 8 under printers12:46
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stdinlordmaynoth_: look at http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors12:46
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Sannetarnold: in Kubuntu, I just used the printer entry in System Settings.12:47
Krisheanunder linux you don't get the blue screen12:47
Krisheanit just locks up12:47
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tarnoldsanne: ok12:47
stdineMaX: is there an entry for it in /etc/inetd.conf12:47
coreymon77Krishean: its called a kernel panic12:47
Krisheani don't get any messages12:48
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tarnoldyes im aware kissing blue screen of death goodbye is the subtitle referring to moving from windows to linux12:48
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lordmaynoth_if its harmless I wont even mess with it12:48
WackedChildhi dawn12:48
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WackedChilddawn: hello buddy12:48
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Krisheanthe screen just displays the same image12:48
dawnhello buddy12:48
Zancathello people12:48
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Krisheanwhatever the last state was before it froze12:49
dawnwe are getting snow12:49
coreymon77Krishean: its very hard to make that happen in linux though12:49
Krisheanwell i've done it twice12:49
coreymon77Krishean: so have i12:50
coreymon77Krishean: but still12:50
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Krisheanjust by typing in a text box12:50
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tarnoldhey gang if my printer is wireless how would i add it under the add printer options?12:50
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NDPTAL85Why email client do you guys prefer? I'm trying to choose between Evolution and Thunderbird.12:50
coreymon77tarnold: very very easy12:50
coreymon77tarnold: whats the printers ip adress12:50
raindog Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)12:50
Krisheanthe html color code box in the window colors preferences12:50
NDPTAL85Bah I meant "Which"12:50
SanneKrishean: sometimes it can be due to bad ram, or maybe a video driver error.12:50
Krisheani try to type in a color and boom its locked up12:50
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WackedChilddawn: ok I am departing\12:51
coreymon77Krishean: thats your computer's problem, not linux's12:51
Krisheani tested my ram with the memtest thing and its fine12:51
Krisheanand it has the default nv driver12:51
Krisheanit is not the computer12:51
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coreymon77tarnold: what is the ip adress of your printer?12:51
carutsuscuse me, where can i get the multimedia codecs for Kubuntu.. i find them for ubuntu12:52
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stdinNDPTAL85: it's up to personal preference, I like TBird, others like KMail, some like Evolution. Try them out and see what you like best12:52
SanneKrishean: what kde theme do you use?12:52
coreymon77tarnold: do you know ir12:52
carutsubut i want to play an mpg video12:52
tarnold192. 168.0.10912:52
Krisheanive changed the theme a bunch of times12:52
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Krisheanit dosen't seem to matter what theme12:52
coreymon77tarnold: what printer?12:52
tarnoldan HP 2710 all in one12:52
Krisheanits the window color configuration dialog12:52
stdincarutsu: Kubuntu IS Ubuntu, just with KDE instead of Gnome, all the packages are the same12:52
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SanneKrishean: that sounds really weird. I used the html color entry multiple times.12:53
coreymon77tarnold: okay, so, go to the kde add printer wizrd12:53
Krisheani can use everything else fine12:53
Krisheanbut when i try the color config it does that12:53
coreymon77Krishean: do you have window shadowing on?12:53
carutsustdin no12:53
Krisheanim not shure12:53
Krisheanwhere do i check that?12:53
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coreymon77Krishean: cause that could be the problem12:53
Krisheantitlebar shading?12:53
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stdincarutsu: what do you mean "no", what are you saying no to?12:54
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carutsustdin the codecs for gnome are for totemo or something... but i use kafeine12:54
coreymon77Krishean: do you have shading enabled?12:54
carutsustdin sorry i was typing12:54
Krisheani don't know12:54
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Krisheancoreymon77: how do i check?12:54
stdincarutsu: have you looked at the help page for installing codecs?12:54
carutsustdin: yep12:54
carutsuthey are for xine12:54
coreymon77tarnold: wait 2 secs and ill continue with you12:55
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carutsuthe strange is i can play mp3 but no mpg12:55
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carutsustdin i use kfeine and those are for totem... :S12:56
aleskagnome user here, but currently trying out kde and really impressed so far!12:56
carutsualeska i love KDE12:57
aleskais nautilus' replacement in kde konquerer?12:57
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Eagle_101does xchat work in kubuntu?12:58
bxnpaleska: use dolphin instead of konqueror this will allso be the default filemanager in kde412:58
Admiral_ChicagoEagle_101: ya12:58
aleskayes xchat does...I'm using it now12:58
stdincarutsu: totem can use either the xine engine, or the gstreamer one, which engine you have installed depends on what you install, but you can just use the command on the help page to grab them all12:58
Eagle_101if so how come sudo apt-get install xchat not work12:58
coreymon77tarnold: anyways12:58
Eagle_101sorry :S12:58
coreymon77tarnold: have you opened the kde add printer wizard?12:58
carutsui have kubuntu... what does kaffeine use? Xine?12:58
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stdincarutsu: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" should get you just about everything12:59
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tarnoldok so amarok doesn't play MP3's and i hit add mp3 support and adept fetched the packages and i still got teh same messages12:59
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Eagle_101and xchat? by any chance something else required?12:59
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tarnoldcoreymon77: yes ive KDE add printer wizard open12:59
bxnpaleska: have you heard about dolphin01:00
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stdintarnold: have you restarted amarok after you installed the codec?01:00
coreymon77tarnold: okay, so, choose the network printer (tcp/ip) option01:00
tarnoldstdin: nope01:00
stdintarnold: yeah, you need to do that :)01:00
derek_is there any way that you can see whats going on during boot, like f2 for other distrobutions during boot...?01:00
tarnoldcoreymon77: ok,   did that01:00
aleskais dolphin something I would apt-get, or should it already be installed?01:00
Krisheanso how do i check for this window shading thing?01:00
carutsustdinalthough is very weird i downloaded a library and i can play mp3 for example... and wmv but something failed when i tried to open a mpg01:00
derek_because my computer wont boot01:00
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tarnoldstdin: how do i restart it, it just goes to the system tray01:01
stdintarnold: right click it (in the system tray), choose Quit01:01
aleskabxnp: I haven't heard of dolphin01:01
coreymon77tarnold: do you see the box that says "printer address:"?01:01
tarnoldstdin: ok now what>01:01
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tarnoldcoreymon77: yes01:01
coreymon77tarnold: enter your printers ip adress into that01:01
stdintarnold: then just start it up again, and it should work01:02
coreymon77tarnold: and then press next01:02
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tarnoldstdin: ok01:02
carutsustdin... when i boot my pc, it says that there are diferences betwen the sector of /dev/hda1 and its backu the point is is my windows partition i dont want it to check it anymore, how do i turn that of or at least stop it from cheking it... it takes quite some time...01:02
Eagle_101ideas on why it can't find xchat?01:02
Krisheanshade sorted column in lists?01:02
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tarnoldcoreymon77: ok adding ip address now01:02
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tarnoldtryign to multitask wiht printer, set up amarok and talk to grandparents01:03
coreymon77tarnold: once you press next, the select driver page will show up01:03
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tarnoldcoreymon77:  what port?01:03
coreymon77tarnold: all you need is the ip adress01:03
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stdincarutsu: if the line for that partition has something like "0 1", change it to "0 0"01:04
tarnoldcoreymon77: alright hitting next now then01:04
bxnpwell aleska this will be the future anyway take a look at http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/deskje1.png01:04
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coreymon77tarnold: what printer is it again?01:04
stdincarutsu: (in /etc/fstab) sorry :)01:04
aleskabxnp: thx, will do...is it in repositories?01:04
BluesKajI hope dolphin has the option to sort files by type , which it doesn't do now01:04
tarnoldcoreymon77: said no printer found at this IP address/printer'01:04
carutsustdin lol, i was just wbout to ask01:04
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:04
tarnoldan HP photosmart 2710 all in one printer01:04
coreymon77tarnold: are you sure that in the correct ip?01:05
bxnpyes but that is an old version01:05
bxnpi would download the source and compile it yourself01:05
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MetaBookfoziSso where i found this in kubuntu01:05
carutsustdin: what will that do? ot better asked what does that mean?01:05
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB01:05
tarnoldshould be...i see an IP address  under HP network configuration page under General Information01:05
bxnpyes 0.6 is the old version aleska01:05
bxnpyou dont have the sidebar with 0.601:06
coreymon77tarnold: did you check the network config page on the printer01:06
carutsustdin it has 0 1, so i change it to 0 0?01:06
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stdincarutsu: the 1st number doesn't do much, but the 2nd number decides the order that a filesystem is checked, setting it to "0" means don't check it01:06
tarnoldwhere would that be?01:06
stdincarutsu: yeah, to 0 001:06
eMaXstdin thanks that wasit01:07
coreymon77tarnold: does your printer have its own little lcd screen?01:07
carutsustdin thanks i always like to know what i'm doing01:07
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stdineMaX: isn't it annoying when there isn't an init script :P01:07
tarnoldyes it doess01:07
stdincarutsu: no problem :)01:08
coreymon77tarnold: okay, press the setup button on the printer01:08
igorjrhey, i got still problems with samba01:08
tarnoldhave to go over there, what am i looking for- so i don't have to make several small trips01:08
igorjrif i just share the folder, i get the "guest" login01:08
igorjreven though i haven't assigned a password01:08
coreymon77tarnold: first press the setup button01:09
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coreymon77tarnold: then on the window that pops , scroll to "Network"01:09
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ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:09
aleskaLOVING yakuake BTW!01:09
tarnoldwhere about for network...?01:10
coreymon77tarnold: then in the network menu01:10
Eagle_101Ok, what is wrong with this command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9022/ < error loading xchat for some reason01:10
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coreymon77tarnold: click on "View Network Settings"01:11
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bxnpyes yakuake is great01:11
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bxnpbut aleska how long did you use gnome and why did you switch to kde01:11
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coreymon77tarnold: then on the network seetings page, scroll to "view Wired Summary"01:11
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coreymon77tarnold: on that page, there should be an ip address01:11
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unholyskornomg kubuntu is a piece of crap01:11
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Flying_Eagleoh yea01:11
stdinEagle_101: make sure you have the universe repository enabled01:12
coreymon77tarnold: put that ip address that is shown into the printer adress box on the kde printer wizard01:12
Eagle_101and how do you do that (I'm giving this info to an absolute newbie so a command line command would be nice)01:12
aleskabxnp: used gnome for about a year.  had no real qualms.  frankly was just curious to see how the otherside lived ;-)01:12
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carutsustdin: anoter issue i though i had the version 9 of flash player01:12
coreymon77unholyskorn: okay, what the hell, you come into the kubuntu irc channel just to say that kubuntu is a piece of crap01:13
coreymon77unholyskorn: thats called trolling01:13
unholyskornyah it works like crap01:13
stdinEagle_101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu will tell you how01:13
unholyskorni just installed it and already adept wont run01:13
coreymon77unholyskorn: if thats all you are here for, leave now01:13
Eagle_101stdin, thanks01:13
coreymon77unholyskorn: if you want support, ask your question politely01:13
aleskabxnp: I changed the panel layouts to resemble something I was more used to...and now I'm thinking I really like this, especially these kde apps (amarok for starters!)01:13
carutsustdin: i can open youtube, hoever opening metacafe it says that cant be opened i tried installing the non-free but it says is for mozilla-like engines and i want to try Konqueror for a while, how can i fix this?01:14
unholyskornadept wont run, and admin mode wont run in computer settings01:14
tarnoldcoreymon77:  ok well the IP on the printout summary is the same as on the lcd screen01:14
bxnplol, i dont use the specific kde apps like amarok01:14
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Krisheanactually adept crashed on me once too01:14
coreymon77unholyskorn: what do you mean wont run01:14
bxnpit uses way to much resources, for just simple letting me enjoy music01:14
BluesKajunholyskorn, if you have problem these kind ppl will help, but with your attitude they might just let you stew for a while '01:14
aleskano?  but amarok is so wonderful01:14
stdincarutsu: Konqueror will use the mozilla plugin01:14
bxnpxmms is enough for me01:14
unholyskornwell, adept sits there with the loading icon then disapears01:15
bxnpi dont look at amarok, i listen to music01:15
unholyskornand the admin mode i click it and it goes to a blank screen01:15
carutsustdin: thank you01:15
bxnpand how nice it maybe looking its not my first priority :)01:15
stdincarutsu: just make sure you have the bacports repository enabled, and install flashplugin-nonfree01:15
Sannebxnp: ha! another one :) I also love xmms.01:15
aleskamakes sense01:15
ceckoHi all, what info should I submit with a bug report if my ThinkPad's wifi does not work sometimes? in kNetworkManager it shows no networks and WlanAssistant "No useable wireless devices found"01:15
coreymon77unholyskorn: doesnt a window pop up asking you for a password?01:15
bxnpmy god, Sanne are you a male of female01:15
bxnpcause in holland sanne is a female name01:15
stdincarutsu: flash9 is only in backports, it's version 7 in the normal universe repo01:15
Eyelesscecko: is your networkcard on?01:15
carutsubackports... ok01:16
carutsustdin: backports... ok01:16
slyfoxWhere do I set how often Kmail should check for email ?01:16
coreymon77unholyskorn: how long have you waited for the window to pop up01:16
ceckoI hope so, the HW switch does work only for BT01:16
Sannebxnp: in Germany also (but more a nickname of the full name). And I'm in Germany, so... ;)01:16
Eyelesscecko: the lil green wifi logo below the screen01:16
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ceckoEyeless: it never lights, even when it's on01:16
Eyelessbecause you can turn the wificard on and off with fn+f5 or something like that01:16
bxnpkee, amnyway xmms is great however i have some strange redrawing problems when i run xmms01:17
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aleskaI like the fact that amarok seems to work well in transferring files to my rockboxed iPod.  Does xmms have similar capabilties?01:17
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stdincarutsu: it will be a line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" in your sources list01:17
Sannebxnp: really? For me it's quite stable.01:17
bxnpwell xmms is stable01:17
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ceckoEyeless: Fn+F5 does not do anything either (the right combination)01:18
carutsustdin yep i already actived it01:18
bxnplook i will give you a screenshot what happends to my other windows when i play music with xmms01:18
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stdincarutsu: just making sure :P01:18
Sannebxnp: ok01:18
Eyelesscecko: hold on a sec ill check on my thinkpad01:18
joelI have had lagging while moving the xmms window sometimes. But that was like six years ago.01:18
coreymon77unholyskorn: and how does adept not work01:18
ComputerHermitello Iam on the fourm and I dont see wheir to post a new thread Iam on the new post why ?01:18
unholyskornalready said why it doesnt work01:19
coreymon77unholyskorn: be a little more specific\01:19
unholyskornit sits there with the loading icon near my cursor, and the loading adept in the taskbar01:19
ubuntu__I'm having trouble installing on a brand new external hard drive. I get the error: "the ext 3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCS13 (0,0,0) sdb failed"  Can anyone help me?01:19
ceckoEyeless: you wrote the right combo, in windows it works an lights alright, not in Kubuntu even though the wifi work 97% of time01:19
unholyskornthen dissapears01:19
unholyskornand doesnt run, obviuosly01:19
Eagle_101by chance is it still in your list of processes?01:19
bxnphttp://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/garba.png look sanne01:20
ceckoEyeless: I've got Z60t01:20
carutsustdin thank you01:20
Eagle_101unholyskorn, ?01:20
Sannebxnp: eeeek01:20
stdincarutsu: you're welcome :)01:20
bxnpyeah, you can say hat01:20
unholyskornwhat eagle?01:20
Sannebxnp: what if you try another window decoration style?01:20
bxnpi have it allso when i use the program kaffeine01:20
unholyskornhow else can i explain it01:20
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Eagle_101by chance is it still in your list of processes?01:20
unholyskornit sits there and doesnt load01:20
bxnpdunno But i loke this decoration01:21
carutsustdin: i've heard is a shame that they had to give it to us (the 9 flash plug in) however i think that is a good thing... it means they are taking seriously linux01:21
Eyelesscecko: i got a t51 i think. anayway that key was the only thing i could think of. My wifi dies sometimes but toggling it on and off with fn+f5 usally fix that01:21
Sannebxnp: yes, sure, but just to see if it has anything to do with that specific style.01:21
MetaBookfoziScool under kubuntu i set up 1000tiems faster a hp printer than on windows01:21
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unholyskornwell im out, thanks for the help01:22
unholyskornguess i gotta uninstall it01:22
stdincarutsu: it's a shame we had to wait so long, we had to wait from version 7 to version 901:22
Sannebxnp: it's a nice style, btw. Which one is it?01:22
bxnpoh i understand, well no i have it allso with other window decoration01:22
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carutsustdin: well that's true01:22
stdinComputerHermit: which forum are you on?01:22
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Eagle_101underdog5004, did you check your list of processes?01:22
ceckoEyeless: any idea what info|konsole output I should submit with the bug?01:22
bxnpdunno let me look01:22
Eagle_101unholyskorn, did you check your list of processes01:22
Eyelesscecko: id try and ask in the forums before submitting a bugrepoert01:23
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carutsustdin was a pleasure to talk to you, and thank you for your help01:23
stdincarutsu: no peoblem, that's why I'm here :)01:23
ceckoEyeless: alright, thx01:23
bxnpSanne: its suse2 windows decoration01:23
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Eyelesscecko: no need, i couldnt actuly help you :P01:24
carutsustdin i hopw we meet again, see you later (unfortunetly university homework cant made itself01:24
Sannebxnp: thanks, might try it :)01:24
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stdincarutsu: I'm normally here, see you later01:24
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bxnpkwin-style-suse2 to be exact01:24
bxnpbut you live in germany Sanne01:25
carutsustdin ;)01:25
FizzbaneHow do i check to see what hd my windows is installed in so i can add it to grub?01:25
popowWHat is a good *nix replacement for MS Project? Preferably a KDE thing? Kplato seems a bit weird01:25
bxnpthen its very late overthere01:25
joelbxnp: Is that graphic error driver-related?01:25
ComputerHermitlol I got it01:25
Sannebxnp: yes, I was born here ;) And I'm a night owl.01:25
ComputerHermitIam very tired01:25
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bxnphi joel to be honest i dont know, i might be, but i get it when i play music with xmms or with kaffeine01:26
Sannebxnp: looks nice, that style, thanks for the tip01:26
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bxnpwhat do you think it is joel01:26
bxnpNp Sanne01:26
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Fizzbaneis there a partition thingy on linux i can use to look at my partions?01:26
joelbxnp: Maybe you could try change resolution or, if you dare do some x configuration: Try vga or vesa driver.01:27
bxnpsanne www.postproductie.nl/burningman/firefox.png icons look at the lower part of the screen01:27
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bxnplet me look at my x configuration01:27
bxnpone sec01:27
userundFizzbane: qtparted or gparted01:27
joelbxnp: I have something similar with SLAX on some computers I sit with.01:27
userundFizzbane: or of course fdisk01:27
igorjrfuck this01:27
igorjri 'm so goddam angry01:28
Fizzbanehow do i use them?01:28
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Sannebxnp: pretty01:28
igorjri add a user at samba, assign a password and then he disappeas01:28
naliothigorjr: your language will not help you, please be civil01:28
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userundFizzbane: well, you have to install them if they aren't already.  fdisk is installed by default, so you can go to a terminal and type fdisk01:28
Eagle_101hey Saga-Linux :D01:28
Eagle_101hope these folks can help01:28
joelbxnp: I'd try xrandr first, before fiddling with xorg.conf01:29
bxnpwell joel i cant change the resolution cause this is the hights resolution and dont want to do 800x600 but i could try vesa01:29
Saga-LinuxI'm having trouble setting Firefox as my default browser on kubuntu01:29
bxnpdoes vesa do 1024x76801:29
Saga-LinuxCurrently it uses Konqueror - but I tried using Firefox's settings, but it doesn01:29
joeltry xrandr to set it to a diffrent just for a while.01:29
Fizzbanei typed fdisk and all i got was examples01:29
Saga-Linuxdoesn't do anything...01:30
bxnpi am on a laptop joel01:30
coreymon77igorjr: watch the language01:30
joelbxnp: Yeah... so? Will it not work?01:31
igorjroh well01:31
userundFizzbane: type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda (or sda if you have a sata drive)01:31
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Fizzbanei want to check my sata drive. does it matter if its mounted?01:32
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joelbxnp: I dont know your computer, but I was under ipression even laptops could display other resolutions than the optimal.01:32
bxnpyes one sec01:32
userundSaga-Linux: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser01:33
kmihi... I can't find anywhere, how can I change the resolution of my kubuntu console (alt-f1)?01:33
FizzbaneOk, how do i add my windows to grub?01:33
userund!grub | Fizzbane01:33
ubotuFizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:33
Saga-LinuxThanks userund01:33
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joelbxnp: I dont suggest you change permanently, only to see if the corruptions occur on more than your standard res.01:34
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bxnphow can i yes :) i am lookig how to change it whit xrandr01:34
bxnpnever used it01:35
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morticiwth how come normal users can't acces my windows partition :/01:37
coreymon77mortici: ntfs right?01:37
morticishould i set the options to users,ro and not defaults01:37
morticicoreymon77: yes01:37
coreymon77mortici: well, there you go01:37
morticiok :P01:38
intelikeyno permissions on M$ fs's01:38
Fizzbanehow do i save the menu.lst?01:38
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morticiintelikey: ???01:38
coreymon77mortici: my suggestion is to chop off a bit of space from your laregest hard drive01:38
coreymon77and format it as fat3201:38
coreymon77thats what i did01:38
morticinah i got the drive split in two01:39
coreymon77i use it as a shared os storage drive01:39
mortici320gb's for the win :D01:39
igorjrmortici: can you help me please01:39
bxnpoke joel01:39
bxnpi am at 800x600 no lets open xmms to see if it happends again01:39
igorjrmortici: i just don't get it01:39
joelbxnp: yay, good luck :)01:39
bxnpyes i have it again01:40
Fizzbane500gb external FTW01:40
igorjrmortici: in the share modus i'm able to browse the shared folders, but i can't access them, i get a guest-login window01:40
morticiigorjr: whats the issue?01:40
igorjrmortici: i can't add users though, cause the get deleted again01:41
joelbxnp: Well, I'd try vesa to rule out the possibility anyway. But do take a backup on the config file if you do attempt it.01:41
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Fizzbanehow do i add grub and dont send me those links again cuz i have read them and they dont help. so far i have "title windows, root (sda1)" what else do i have to type in?01:42
joelbxnp: This weekend, I didnt >_<01:42
morticiigorjr: i just used the right click method on a folder01:42
morticithen made it a windows share01:42
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bxnpno problem i have allways a live cd, besides that when i edited a file with vi it does the backup file automaticly01:42
morticii didn't use a password/username01:42
bxnpatleast in my configuration01:43
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intelikeyFizzbane chainloader+1 boot01:43
Fizzbaneall one line?01:43
intelikey2 lines01:44
Fizzbanetype it out as you would in the terminal01:44
Fizzbanecuz i am not following01:44
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joelbxnp: Hehe, yeah. Well suffice to say, I did many incremental changes. (automatic backup is only so good.)01:44
dell190i have a problem with Kubuntu looking for a file Resolv.conf, and when i try to put it in the directory is says that access is denied, anyone know how to get around this ??01:44
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joelIn the end, I discovered it was other bugs. Yeeehhcs! took me four hours.01:45
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bxnpchange the permissions of that file dell19001:45
Fizzbaneim new at linux, i have done alot of work in DOS though, but thank you01:45
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dell190when i try to.. it also says Denied...01:45
igorjrmortici: doesn't work for me01:46
bxnpoke let me test it joel maybe you could help dell190 with a little permission problem01:46
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FizzbaneHow do i save the menu.lst for grub now?01:46
bxnpwhile i do a reboot into my new vesa driver01:46
joeldell190: try:  -->      ls -l /etc/resolv.conf01:46
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intelikeydell190 don't change the permissions.   use sudo to write it.01:46
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dell190ok i am new to this, so i really dunno what yall are talkin bout01:47
intelikeyjoel /etc/* should not be world writable.01:47
intelikey!sudo | dell19001:47
ubotudell190: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:47
intelikey!kdesu | dell19001:47
ubotudell190: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:47
NixHexhey, has anyone experienced a 64bit kernel being installed onto a 32bit OS, or vice versa? cause I just experienced that last night--today01:48
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intelikeyNixHex 32bit in a k8 box is common.01:48
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joeldell190: What are you trying to do? Put the file in what directory?01:48
FizzbaneHow do i save the menu for grub that i just edited in terminal?01:49
NixHexintelikey: no, I installed 32bit edgy, when I updated everything, the kernel ended up as the 64bit kernel01:49
dell190ECT directory... the KPPP said it needs it01:49
intelikeyFizzbane if you didn't edit as root you save it to your home dir and sudo cp it over then chown it to root01:49
Fizzbanei edited as root01:50
intelikeythen just save it.01:50
intelikeywhat editor ?01:50
joeldell190: name servers can be added via kde control center (at least my version)01:50
Fizzbanethe konsole terminal01:50
joeloops... sorry.01:50
joelforgot to scroll down.01:50
intelikeykonsoe is not an editor01:50
intelikeykonsole even01:51
Fizzbane....i typed stuff in it......01:51
intelikeyFizzbane what did you type in ?01:51
intelikeyif i don't know what editor you are using i can't tell you how to use it can i01:51
Fizzbaneim in the konsole01:51
igorjrmortici: it worked now, my bad....01:52
igorjrwe'll, i fought against my own stupidity01:52
jhutchinsFizzbane: What did you type?01:52
Fizzbanei typed in title windows, root (sda1), chainloader+1,boot01:52
intelikeyok this is going no where. Fizzbane when you graduate primary grammer  we'll talk.01:52
userundKonsole is only a program to access a shell.  You have to use a command-line editor like nano or vim to EDIT files from the Konsole01:52
igorjris windows xp able to handel ext3 ?01:53
jhutchinsFizzbane: Are you trying to change a grub entry or fix a resolv.conf problem?01:53
intelikeyFizzbane if you put those strings in a konsole  you have done nothing.01:53
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jhutchinsigorjr: Not natively, no.01:53
Fizzbanei typed in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to access the menu. I am trying to edit Grub to include my windows installation.01:53
jhutchinsigorjr: There are ext3 drivers available.  Use at your own risk.01:53
intelikeyexcept seen some interesting  bash: error messages.01:53
igorjrjhutchins: thank you01:53
intelikeyFizzbane ok  nano01:54
jhutchinsFizzbane: You are using the nano editor.01:54
userundThen you used nano.  Ctrl+X saves with nano.  It's at the bottom of the screen.....01:54
Admiral_Chicagoctrl + 0 does01:54
Fizzbaneit says control+x is exit01:54
Admiral_ChicagoCtrl + X exits, asks to sawe if there have been edits01:54
intelikeyFizzbane at the bottom of the nano screen there is a command key....   the  ^ means hold the [ctrl]  key down and press....01:54
jhutchinsigorjr: Using fat32/vfat is the most common way to share partitions between Windows & Linux.01:54
userundwell, if you've made changes it asks to edit.  how I always use it01:54
Fizzbanei know that intel01:54
joelokay, here's how to do it from a console providing you dont have it yet: su -c 'echo "nameserver" >> /etc/resolv.conf'01:54
Fizzbaneso Ctrl+O saves?01:55
intelikeyFizzbane and just above that there is an information line that will ask you questions as you give commands.01:55
joeldell190: of course you need to change the ip adress to your nameserver.01:55
intelikeyFizzbane yes.01:55
FizzbaneThe terminal came up with the file name and i clicked enter to save. It says wrote 153 lines. Did i do everything correctly?01:56
joeldell190: ...in the previous example (forgot to tag it with your name)01:57
userundFizzbane: well, if you didn't, I hope you made a backup01:57
intelikeyhow should we know ?  you're the one looking at it.01:57
Fizzbaneim also the new linux user01:57
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FizzbaneI guess ill test it and see if it worked.01:58
dell190isn't possible to drag and drop it in that folder??01:58
intelikeyit wrote what is in the buffer all 153 lines to the file listed in the information line01:58
SanneFizzbane: you can paste your menu.lst to the pastebin so we can have a look first, if you want. Paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:58
Fizzbanehow do i paste in that?01:59
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igorjrjhutchins: yeah, i prepared it that way, i was just wondering, whether i was able to use the linux-partitions too01:59
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userund!pastebin | Fizzbane01:59
ubotuFizzbane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:59
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SanneFizzbane: you can open it in a graphical editor with the command: kate /boot/grub/menu.lst01:59
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SanneFizzbane: then just copy the text and paste it to the website.02:00
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intelikeyigorjr there is a e2fsexplorer.exe for M$ that can read from ext# fs's as long as they are in normal partitions.   but it's kinda like linux writing to ntfs.   should be used readonly or with extreem caution.02:01
Fizzbanehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9030/ there it is02:01
SanneFizzbane: the only thing you edited is the last entry for windows?02:03
Fizzbaneand the hiddenmenu02:03
joeldell190: No, it should not be unless you are running as root via "kdesu"02:03
intelikey(sda1) <<< unless that is in /boot/grub/devices  i don't think that will work.02:03
igorjrintelikey: thx02:03
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dell190ok i will try the thing you gave me  BRB02:04
Fizzbanehow do i add it to the /boot/grub/devices?02:04
bxnpjoel: well it did not change anything02:04
intelikeyshould be something like (hd1,0)02:04
bxnpanyway, i learned already to live with it02:04
Fizzbane(sda1) is the hd that my windows is on02:04
bxnpmaybe when i do a new installation of kubuntu it will go away02:04
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Fizzbane(hd0) is where linux is02:04
igorjreven though linux tends to make me crazy, i like the attitude of you guys02:04
intelikeyyes but grub doesn't use real addressing.02:04
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SanneFizzbane: I can paste you the lines I used when I had Windows 98, maybe you can adapt it to your situation.02:05
bxnpcause this is kubuntu edgy from breezy02:05
bxnpso maybe there went something wrong in the proces joel02:05
Fizzbane(hd0,0) is linux sorry02:05
intelikeyso look in /boot/grub/devices   and see if there is a listing for (hd1,0)02:05
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SanneFizzbane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/02:05
joelbxnp: Ah, yeah. There's hope. :)02:05
FizzbaneSanne: my linux and windows are on different hds02:05
intelikeyyes.  so look and see02:06
Fizzbanehow do i open /boot/grub/devices?02:06
SanneFizzbane: still, there are differences I don't know if they are important. And sda is not what grub uses, listen to intelikey :)02:06
joeluh, wait a minute now. Does kubuntu not set a root password by default?02:06
saw2434Hey, I just bought an external Hard Drive that I want to install kubuntu on.  It's is preformatted as a FAT32 system which I believe Ubuntu can't be installed on.  Can I convert it to NTFS when I install kubuntu or do I need to do it in Windows?02:06
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intelikeyFizzbane cat /boot/grub/devices  in the konsole02:06
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shahidhi does anyone know if there is a Mepis channel?02:07
intelikeyjoel no02:07
intelikey!root | joel02:07
ubotujoel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:07
joelcrap, I just used su to help dell190.02:07
jhutchinssaw2434: First, you actually can install linux on fat32, but it's not usually a good idea.  Second, installing it on NTFS would require quite a bit of custom work.02:07
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FizzbaneI keep getting "file not found"02:08
intelikeyFizzbane is there a listing in the devices*     add *02:08
saw2434jhutchins: So what kind of custom work?02:08
jhutchinssaw2434: The preferred filesystem for k/ubuntu is a unix filesystem known as ext3.02:08
intelikeyseems like it is  devices.list  or some such...02:08
jhutchinssaw2434: You'd have to set up the installer's kernel to have write access to NTFS filesystems, among other things.02:09
charlie5hi folks ... just updated kubu and my external usb drives are no longer being mounted ... would this be a general prob, or a problem local to my setup ?02:09
Fizzbaneoh now you tell me02:09
saw2434jhutchins: So should I be able to use Gparted to just format it to ext3?02:09
intelikeygrub is too weak to boot my system so i can't look and see...02:09
intelikeyit's all from memory.02:09
jhutchinssaw2434: I think that's what the installer uses.02:09
Fizzbanenice memory02:09
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intelikeyyou'll get old some day.02:10
jhutchinssaw2434: Could use cfdisk or fdisk.02:10
Fizzbanehaha not for along time02:10
jhutchinssaw2434: and mkfs.02:10
Fizzbanefor a long time*02:10
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intelikeysooner than you think02:10
FizzbaneI'm 1402:10
intelikeysooner than you think02:10
jhutchinsintelikey: lilo?02:10
intelikeyjhutchins yeah02:10
saw2434jhutchins: yeah, however when I first tryed doing it (with a brand new preformatted in Fat32 HD) I got an error saying the ext3 file system creation in partition 3 of SCS13 ... failed.02:10
FizzbaneI just want to boot windows!02:11
saw2434jhutchins: are those linux programs?02:11
VanessaEanyone over here know much about using X in 8bpp mode?02:11
SanneFizzbane: I would just try my entries, according to the grub manual you need the three lines: 1. rootnoverify (your_hd) 2. makeactive 3. chainloader +102:11
intelikeyso is there a listing for the disk ?02:11
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jhutchinssaw2434: Yes.  The DOS fdisk won't work with non-MS filesystem types.02:11
Fizzbanecat /boot/grub/devices does not work02:11
jhutchinssaw2434: If I were doing it manually, I would use fdisk to change the partition type, then I would use mkfs to "format" it.02:12
intelikeyVanessaE !i  but i have used that  256 colour.02:12
jhutchinssaw2434: I would also make it all one partition, but that's just my preference.02:12
saw2434jhutchins: alright... so I do those in windows?02:12
VanessaEis it normal to only get what looks like 7bpp (128ish colors) with a StaticColor visual?02:12
jhutchinssaw2434: You'll either need a boot disk or you'll need to install a bootloader on your default boot drive.02:12
FizzbaneI'll be back in a bit. I need some supper.02:12
saw2434jhutchins: ok02:12
jhutchinssaw2434: I would boot the the Live CD.02:12
saw2434jhutchins: so they're linux then02:13
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jhutchins(There aer a few BIOSes that allow you to pick your boot device, that's another possibility.)02:13
saw2434jhutchins: So when I boot from the live CD, how would I use Fdisk?02:13
intelikeyVanessaE yes it is.  looks pretty krappy.02:13
VanessaEhow do I fix it?02:14
intelikeyat least when i used it...       go to 15 bit mode  :)02:14
intelikeythen i don't know.02:14
VanessaErunning wine to run an 8bpp app :)02:14
intelikeyand it wont run in an 15bit env ?02:15
b-radgood evening everyone :)  has anyone found a solution for no audio for an intel HD audio chipset?  I've tried everything in the forums to no avail....02:15
jhutchinssaw2434: you open a console, sudo fdisk /dev/XXX, where XXX is the device you want.02:15
VanessaEhaven't tried 15 bpp yet02:15
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saw2434jhutchins: so I think mine was sdb02:16
jhutchinssaw2434: Most likely the USB drive will be /dev/sda as long as you don't have SCSI or SATA drives.02:16
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intelikeyi'd try it.   15 is pretty flexable   works where 16 wont.02:16
saw2434jhutchins: My computers (win xp) hard drive was sda02:16
jhutchinssaw2434: Then it'll be the next one, /dev/sdb.02:17
VanessaEnope, no good02:17
VanessaEit explicitly wants 8bpp02:17
saw2434jhutchins: ok, so I boot of the kubuntu live cd, and then open a console and type "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"?02:17
intelikeythen use 8 and hope for someone that knows....02:17
VanessaEwell thanks just the same :)02:18
jhutchinssaw2434: fdisk -l will show you the current drives and partitions.02:18
intelikeysudo fdisk -l02:18
jhutchinssaw2434: You might try sudo cfdisk, fdisk is a bit opaque.02:18
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intelikeyas user sometimes shows nothing.02:18
jhutchinssaw2434: cfdisk has menus.02:18
saw2434jhutchins: ok02:18
jhutchinsintelikey: I presume fdisk and cfdisk are both available on the CD?02:18
intelikeyyes should be.02:19
intelikeywere as of dapper02:19
compilerwriterIs it possible to specify that you will allow any host on a network to use a given box for an x session?  IE 192.168.0.*02:19
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VanessaEI'd keep googling for this (been at it for hours now) but I'm running out of ideas for search terms that might give me something other than source code snippets :)02:19
bxnptcpwrappers compilerwriter02:20
saw2434jhutchins: thanks for your help02:20
peteadept crashed on me - now when i try to bring it back up it says something else is using the processes.....   how can i get it working again?02:20
intelikeycompilerwriter i think ranges.  [0-255]     but i'm network illiterate02:20
stdin!aptfix | pete02:20
ubotupete: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:20
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ODCHey there, I'm a *nix newbie and am installing Kubuntu for the first time, can someone help me?02:21
userund!ask | ODC02:21
ubotuODC: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:21
compilerwriterintelikey: Can a person get away with specifying it in the kdmrc as I have proposed?02:21
bxnpcompilerwriter: http://www.clug.org/presentations/security/tcpwrappers.html02:21
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ODCokay, I burned the iso, put it in the cd tray, it loaded the Kubuntu menu and I selected "Start or Install..."02:21
ODCit went to a progress bar for a bit, but not its just a black screen with a white blinking cursor02:22
ODCis it still installing?02:22
shahidDoes anyone know of a SimplyMepis Help Channel like this one?? Whether one exists/?02:22
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compilerwriterI should also say I am doing it via xdmcp I guess.02:22
stdinshahid: tried #simplymepis   ?02:22
intelikeyODC never has started installing anything.   the graphic user interface on the liveCD has failed you.02:22
shahidnope didnt try that thanks will now02:22
ODCoh... so what do I do?  Try again?02:23
intelikey!alternate | ODC02:23
ubotuODC: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.02:23
Thehound666Hello. I am getting upset with my isp dropping my connections less than 1 second several times a day and having to type commands to reconnect all my ssh sessions. Any way to automate reconnects?02:23
shahidstdin nobody in there :(02:23
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stdinODC: you could try loading in Safe Graphics mode, an option on that menu you saw at boot02:23
napstermanhi. i dont know whats wrong but i cant for the life of me understand how to run kismet at all ive used adept to install it. if i cant get it too work i might go back to xp-pro if i cant get this resolved. can some please tell me what im doing wrong?02:23
ODCokay, I think it was the liveCD, yeah okay I"ll try the safe graphics mode02:24
ODCrunning to other room to try brb02:24
peteubotu thanks02:24
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:24
intelikeythat "For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD. "  <<< is so lame.02:24
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stdinshahid: maybe ask in the main mepis room, #mepis02:25
intelikeybut why not it !worksforme so you should all use it.02:25
joeldell190: How's it going?02:25
shahidawesome thanks02:25
Thehound666my hand is starting to fall off at typing ssh blah blah blah on every disconnect02:25
peteok, im trying the latest 'alpha' install disk, and adept brings up this window that says debconf, asking me to insert an integer between -20 and 19.... what gives?02:25
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shahidstdon how do i add mepis channel or any other channel for that matter to favourite channels?02:25
shahidstdin* woops02:26
stdinshahid: in what client ?02:26
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ODCokay, I selected the safe graphics mode option, its sitting at the blue bar bouncing back and forth02:26
intelikeyODC how much ram ?02:26
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shahid<stdin> konversation02:26
joeldell190: I need to get to bed. And I forgot that kubuntu does not use 'su' but 'sudo'02:26
ODCinterlikey: 1 GB02:27
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joeldell190: revised command for sudo: sudo sh -c "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx >> /etc/resolv.conf"02:27
Thehound666actually the hack for that is give root a password and do sudo su root02:27
intelikeywell that's not the problem.02:27
joelreplace xxxx with correct numbers, and use your password for auth.02:27
stdinshahid: File -> Server List -> (Choose the server) Edit -> Auto join channels, Add02:27
ODCokay follow up, I'm going to be installing WoW, I got the directions to install it in Ubuntu and it says to use WINE.  Does it come installed or is Kubuntu a similar thing?02:27
shahidahh thank u02:27
intelikeyODC i still say get the alternate.   use the text mode installer.02:28
stdinjoel, dell190: easier to just to "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf"02:28
ODCokay, so install Kubuntu and then WINE?02:28
intelikeyODC wine is not installed by default.  but is avalable.02:28
ODCgotcha, thanks02:29
peteODC- that should work but be warned - a lot of people have been banned doing what you are trying to do02:29
joelstdin: Is it? :)02:29
FizzbaneHow can i open up grubs devices?02:29
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intelikeypete ?02:29
stdinjoel: yeah, rather than sudo -c "echo this and that >> some place"02:29
intelikeybanned for trying to install ?02:29
ODCwtf okay it just failed in safe graphics mode02:30
ODCwhat now?02:30
peteyou know, i might have not known what you were talking about, I assume WoW is World of Warcraft02:30
stdinjoel: plus you'll have yo escape charactors if you want to add other ones to a file, like a >, # or "02:30
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intelikeyuse the alternate install CD.....02:30
Thehound666is my question in some FAQ somewhere or something? is that why no replies?02:31
napstermanoh and btw im runing kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1200 with 30gb hd and 1gb ram. so far i like linux the bat life is longer and lots of diff programs to run . but im new to linux.02:31
intelikeypete probably.   but why would anyone be banned for trying to install/run that ?02:31
peteif it is, the blizzard servers think that their game running through wine violates user agreements and ban the users......... but sorry if you were talking about something else02:31
joelstdin: I dont really see any difference, you cant do echo >>02:31
Thehound666many MMO ban you for any sort of mod02:31
ODCyeah I am talking about WoW02:32
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joelstdin: err.. well okay, it work.02:32
intelikeyoh.  a server ban.   i thought you meant an irc ban   ha ha at me.02:32
slyfoxdoes kopete file transfer work in msn ? It does nto for me .02:32
petesudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:32
joelbah, I should have logged off. :)02:32
peteawe shit ignore that02:32
ODCcrap okay so I need to burn a new cd02:32
petetheres a link to one case02:32
intelikeyODC that would be the best way to install  imo.02:32
peteand another02:33
sodawouldn't it be easier to packet shape and do some simple hacks running on an emulator?02:33
sodaspeed hax for example?02:33
Fizzbanewhat does adding "makeactive" to grub's menu do?02:33
userundwine isn't an emulator.02:33
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intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator    to be more specific02:33
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stdinwas that: Wine Is Not an Emulator? :P02:34
SanneThehound666: I guess nobody knows the answer to your question. Usually the nice people here answer, even if it is in an faq :)02:34
intelikeyFizzbane sets the partition active   aka bootable.02:34
joelstdin: sudo sh -c "echo '>_< ^_^ ' "02:34
joelstdin: no escape characters yet :)02:34
stdinjoel: yeah, but you used a ', that's cheating :P02:34
Fizzbaneso i want to add that to the windows selection i just set up?02:34
intelikeycan't hurt anything.02:35
Fizzbaneok thank you02:35
stdinjoel: tee is just nicer, as you don't need to run 3 shells02:35
Fizzbaneand i checked the devices and my sda1 was hd102:35
joelstdin: haha :) well... it's always nice to have different ways of doing the same thing. And with bash and c.o. there's 1000+ ways.02:35
ODCpete: I had read that one, but it seems like it was probably the keyboard02:36
ODCnot WINE02:36
HirvinenThehound666: For passwordless login: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH#head-f06532af79917a251e68c7ccf567cb5c399e0aba02:36
ODCbut thats not confirmed of course02:36
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intelikeyi don't know for sure about grub  but lilo also supplies boot-as=0x80    # means make it c:02:36
Thehound666password isn't the issue02:36
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Thehound666I just want it to reconnect upon disconnecting02:36
Thehound666instead of me having to type commands in 10 windows02:36
FizzbaneWell thank you intellikey. I am going to go see if i can boot windows now.02:37
peteodc yeah i just read through it and that seems to be the case...  good luck man02:37
ODCpete: thanks for the concern though, I appreciate the heads up02:37
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intelikeyFizzbane bet ya half of nothing it don't.  the error will be that (sda1) is invalid entry.02:39
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HirvinenThehound666: Instead of "ssh <target>" use "while true; do ssh <target>; sleep 5; done"02:39
FizzbaneI changed the sda1 to hd1. Grub devices said sda1 is hd102:40
intelikeyor until false ;do blah ;done02:40
Thehound666I am sorry I fail to understand02:40
SanneFizzbane: you need hd1,<partition_number>02:40
Thehound666normally I must retype ssh -D port username@host02:40
intelikeyFizzbane k it should work then.02:40
Thehound666then password02:40
Fizzbanehd1 and partition #?02:40
HirvinenThehound666: Then you just type while true; do ssh -D port username@host; sleep 5; done02:41
SanneFizzbane: look again at my sample, please, and adapt to your situation: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/02:41
intelikeyyes unless you want to pass the boot process off to sda and let the boot loader on that disk take over02:41
Thehound666I just add that to the command when I login?02:41
intelikeyeither will work02:41
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ODCokay, while I was downloading the alternate I ran the CD check, its coming up with a bunch of these errors towards the end:02:42
intelikeyThehound666 what he is sujesting is to loop the ssh command.  so as soon as it closes it will respawn.02:42
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FizzbaneIm not sure if there is a boot loader on the other hd. and if there is it might not have the windows on it.02:42
ODCBuffer I/O error on device hdd02:43
intelikeyah a bad burn.02:43
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intelikeyyou made a coster02:43
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compilerwriterAlrighty then.  I guess my question should have been can a person specify any port on a given network in the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess file like 192.168.0.* ?  Or is that some risky stuff?02:43
intelikeyODC one tidbit of advice on installation iso  burn slowly.02:44
FizzbaneThe first partition on a hd would be (hd1,0) right?02:44
HirvinenThehound666: Or use "until [[ $failed != 0 ] ]  ; do <ssh command>; failed=$?; done02:44
ODCintelikey: Thanks will do that02:44
intelikeycorrect Fizzbane02:44
SanneFizzbane: yes, think so02:44
Fizzbanethank you02:44
compilerwriterintelikey: ODC:  That is the truth I had trouble with disks I burned until I finally burned them at something like 8x.02:45
Thehound666can anyone pastebin me the exact way to do it say with port 1111 name anyone host as an example if it's not too much trouble?02:45
Thehound666I am poor learner02:45
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FizzbaneI am off to try out grub now. wish me luck.02:45
ArthurBHi everyone02:45
HirvinenThehound666: Just replace <ssh command> with the command you use now.02:45
ArthurBafter some upgrades to feisty02:45
SanneFizzbane: good luck :)02:45
ArthurBI find that my lvm won't work anymore02:45
Fizzbanethanks. bye02:45
compilerwriterBreak a leg Fizzbane02:45
ArthurBif I boot from a livecd, all is fine, I can mount my lvm partitions in /dev/mapper02:45
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intelikeyuntil false ;do ssh anyone@ ;sleep 3 ;done02:46
ArthurBbut the boot from grub goes fine02:46
ArthurBuntil it says it can't find /dev/mapper02:46
intelikeyThehound666 ^02:46
ODCokay reburning at 20x now, less than half the speed as before02:46
ArthurBanyone knows about that issue ?02:46
intelikey8x might even be good.02:47
compilerwriterODC Highly suggest you have more patience than that.02:47
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ODCokay well I'll try this cd since its already burning, if that doesn't work i'll do it even slower02:47
compilerwriterODC intelikey types correctly.02:47
ArthurBI think mdamd messed things up02:47
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intelikeyraid... yuch.02:48
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compilerwriterNo biters on my Xaccess question?  I guess I shall just have to try it.02:50
intelikeyArthurB cant find /dev/mapper  isn't a grub error.   initramfs.img maybe.02:50
ODCokay trying the 20x burn wish me luck02:50
ArthurBintelikey: looks like it from google02:50
intelikeytre bon chance02:50
compilerwriter!fr | intelikey02:51
ubotuintelikey: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:51
ArthurBI tried update-initramfs -u02:51
ArthurBand I get mdadm errors02:51
ArthurBI mean warnings02:51
ArthurBW: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf02:51
ArthurBand so on02:51
bitmakeri need un tutorial to create dc++ server with ubuntu02:51
bitmakerplas hlp me02:51
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ODCyeah, that 20x didn't even boot02:53
hazard_bitmaker, find some manual about the server software, and read it.02:53
ODC4x okay?02:53
aleskacould anyone tell me how, in konquerer, when browsing files to make a single left-click only select a file and not actually "launch" it?02:53
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Thehound666I tried it in Konsole and it opened up a session02:54
Thehound666now it will reconnect when my isp has pms?02:54
Sannealeska: It's somewhere in System settings or KDE Control Center, I'll find it for you, sec.02:55
intelikeyArthurB it's fstab/mount addressing.    /dev/mapper/* is the addressing for the / (root fs)  but in the initramfs.img there is no /dev/mapper/  so you need to either change the boot options to address the correct device or build an initramfs.img that includse /dev/mapper/* listings for the file system.02:55
stdinaleska: Kmenu .> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double-click to open files and folders"02:55
stdinSanne: found it02:55
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Sannealeska: listen to stdin (thanks) :)02:55
intelikeyand mdadm is probably the root cause of the issue. yes.02:55
aleskamany thanks!02:56
Sannealeska: you're welcome02:56
ODCokay burning at 4x02:56
aleskawell that was easy enough02:57
intelikeymight want to md5 that iso also ODC ...  8*|02:57
Sannealeska: :)02:58
ODCI don't see that option02:58
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ArthurBintelikey:  do I *need* mdamd for lvm?02:59
intelikeynot unless you raid something or do append mounting.  as per order of questions03:00
intelikeyArthurB is that sata drive ?03:00
aleskaI don't know if this is normal/expected, but I've noticed that my keyboards volumes control doesn't really work in kubuntu, but does under gnome.  Shows volume toggling between 0% and 10% only, yet sound doesn't actually change.  :-/03:01
aleskaanyone experienced this?03:01
ArthurBintelikey: no03:01
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ArthurBintelikey: but whem I apt-get removed mdadm it remove lvm-common and lvm2 as well03:02
ArthurBthat's why I'm asking...03:02
ArthurBalso in /etc/fstab I have strange line with UUID=....03:02
intelikeyArthurB this is not the "best" answer but it's a simular problem + work around. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=40959503:02
SanneODC: md5sum is a unique checksum calculated for a file. There's an md5sum file in the ftp directory where you downloaded the iso. youwould then do: 'md5sum your_iso_file' to calculate the md5sum of your downloaded file and compare it with the corresponding entry in the md5sum file from the ftp directory. If it doesn't match, the iso is borked.03:03
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ODCSanne: Ah thank you03:04
SanneODC: np ;)03:05
intelikeyok i'm out again.  see yous guys laters.03:05
Sannebye intelikey03:06
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ODCSanne: How do I get the md5sum from windows?03:10
ODCI have the one for the file before I burn03:10
ODCjust need a way to get it from the cd03:10
SanneODC: oops. I guess you would need to look for a md5sum calculator for windows.03:11
doppelganger_hi guys..  doesn't anyone here have vmware workstation installed as host03:11
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SanneODC: oh, from the cd?03:11
Flying_Eagledont the ubuntu-cds include a self-sanity-check you can choose when you boot em?03:11
doppelganger_i need one file..  or just a pastebin on one config file, that's it03:11
ODCSanne: Correct, I'm burning it to CD, its almost done, I just need to get the MD5 of it and all I have is Windows03:12
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Flying_EagleODC, im quite sure, there is this sanity-check03:12
ODCFlying_Eagle: Yes, but it takes quite a while and the first time I did it it took until the very end03:12
SanneODC: there are md5sum files on the cd, but I guess that's what's the self test is for, it checks itself. So if you do the self check from the boot menu of the cd (if it boots), it will then test.03:12
ODCsanne: k03:13
SanneODC: if you want to check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded in Windows, you need a windows md5sum calculator.03:13
Flying_Eagle... it took till the end. i should have bet on that...03:14
ODCFlying_Eagle: Murphy's Law03:14
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SanneODC: seems there are some: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q=md5sum+windows03:15
ubotuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more03:15
stdin^^ includes windows instructions03:15
SanneI'm *always* forgetting the bot! thanks stdin.03:16
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:18
Flying_Eaglewhy are metallica making such good metal?03:18
ODCalright, this one actually booted, i'm running the cd checker now03:18
|Daisuke_Ido|offtopic, but are we thinking of the same metallica?03:18
SanneODC: woot03:19
Flying_Eaglemaybe. i didnt find anything to this in the faq ;)03:19
Flying_Eaglei just tuned in orion - and it just burst me away...03:20
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aleskaany chance any of you have insights as to why my keyboard volume control doesn't seem to actually change sound volumes?  (btw - only used  KDE for a few days now)03:21
|Daisuke_Ido|track name?03:21
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Flying_Eaglealeska, i dont, but perhaps the keyword "kmilo" plus the ubuntu-wiki may help you on03:23
coreymon77whats that file again03:23
|Daisuke_Ido|okay, that's *really* old metallica, back when they did make good music03:23
coreymon77 /etc/interfaces or something like that03:23
coreymon77where the wifi settings are kept03:23
|Daisuke_Ido|like...  1983 or somn03:23
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ODCawesome, cd check came out clean, its installing now03:24
Flying_Eagle|Daisuke_Ido|, st.anger was for fun (like steal this album by SOAD) and the next one will just be amazingererizzleler03:24
SanneODC: double woot!03:24
coreymon77guys, where are the wifi interface settings kept03:24
aleskaFlying_Eagle: I'll check it out; thx!03:24
Flying_Eaglecoreymon77, /etc/network/interfaces03:25
Flying_Eagleplus extra-shit in the /etc/network subdirs03:25
ODCabout how long is the kubuntu install?03:25
Flying_Eagledepends on cd drive and hd03:26
coreymon77auto ath003:26
coreymon77iface ath0 inet static03:26
coreymon77wireless-essid cohens03:26
coreymon77wireless-key 1a1e28f24d03:26
coreymon77does that mean it will start automatically03:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:26
coreymon77with boot03:26
Flying_Eaglecoreymon77, si03:26
Flying_EagleODC, on this machine the copy-part of the install takes about a quarter hour03:27
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Flying_Eaglethe complete install about half an hour - depending on the beta-status of the partitioning-tool ;/03:27
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Flying_Eaglecompared to the hours i spend to hunt a fistful of shit during the winxp install i love linux-installs03:29
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Flying_Eagleeven xandros ;)03:29
desi007is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/03:30
coreymon77how od i install the newer java03:30
coreymon77the one on the apt repos is out of date03:30
stdincoreymon77: you mean version 6?03:31
coreymon77i meant jre03:31
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stdincoreymon77: yeah, jre version 6?03:31
coreymon77whatever the newest sun-jre is03:31
Sannenight all03:32
stdincoreymon77: just enable the backports repo03:32
stdincoreymon77: and make sure you have multiverse in it too03:32
coreymon77but thats java 503:32
stdincoreymon77: no, not in backports it isn't03:33
stdin!info sun-java6-jre dapper-backports03:33
ubotusun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB03:33
stdinsame for edgy too03:33
coreymon77oh crap03:33
coreymon77i dont have the backports repos03:33
coreymon77what are they03:33
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports03:34
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desi007is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/03:35
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computriusI am having issues installing ndiswrapper.03:36
computriusI installed ndiswrapper utils, and there were no errors03:36
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computriusdid ndiswrapper -i <driver> successfull..03:37
computriusno errors03:37
computriusdid ndiswrapper -m, good03:37
computriusndiswrapper -l good03:37
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computriusfinally modprobe, and it works.. However, no interface ever shows03:37
pinoshawola amigos03:37
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computriusand ideas?03:37
pinoshawtem algum brasileiro ai?03:37
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computriusfor some reason usbcore seems to be claiming the ndiswrapper module03:39
computriusdmesg |grep ndis outputs: "usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper"03:39
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rbrunhuberCan i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?03:39
rbrunhuberCan i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?03:40
deweygood day mates03:40
computriusanyone have any clue what the issue could be?03:40
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coreymon77computrius: are you sure you needed to use ndkiswrapper, because if you dont have to, you shouldnt03:41
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computriusthere were no drivers detected for my card03:42
computriusdwl 52003:42
computriusim kind of curious why usbcore would claim the module03:42
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coreymon77computrius: thats why i made sure i got a wireless card with an atheros chipset, they work automatically out of the box03:43
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coreymon77computrius: w/o ndis03:43
kubunterohi coreymon7703:43
coreymon77kubuntero: hi03:43
computriusperhaps, I had it working at one point under fedora03:44
computriusbut fedora isnt exactly a good solution if you dont want crap03:44
kubunterojhutchins: Hello :)03:44
coreymon77computrius: lol03:44
coreymon77kubuntero: you need something?03:44
Flying_Eaglecoreymon77, liked that one :D03:44
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computriusif I could do it without ndis, trust me, I would jump on it03:44
coreymon77Flying_Eagle: ???03:44
kubunterocoreymon77: Help03:45
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ODCalright, great news, Ubuntu is now installed.03:45
ODCKubuntu even03:45
Flying_Eaglei almost suggested you to stick with fedora...03:45
ODCNow... how do I install wine?03:45
computriusDDC: congratz, but installation is only 40% of the battle03:45
kubuntero!wine | ODC03:45
ODCoh god03:45
ubotuODC: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:45
swanflwine is in adept03:45
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ODCwhat now?03:45
ODCI'm applying all the Adept stuff right now03:46
kubunteroODC: What are you trying to do?03:46
swanflor use sudo apt-get wine03:46
ODCI didn't see WINE in it now03:46
coreymon77kubuntero: what do you need?03:46
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Flying_EagleODC, what about reading?03:46
ODCKubuntero: Play WoW03:46
swanfldo you have all the repositories?03:46
ODCswanfl: dunno03:46
Flying_Eagleyoure asking already explained crap here the whole time03:46
computriusagg.. why do I always have the rare problems that no-one else has or knows the solution to?03:46
coreymon77computrius: believe me, you dont03:46
coreymon77computrius: you wouldnt have believe my sound problems03:47
ODCFlying_Eagle: Well, maybe to someone who plays in the environment the whole time, but as I've done none of it, the amount of info that you say is so easily readable, is in fact, not03:47
Flying_Eaglethere are a shitload of tutorials in the web, ODC03:47
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org03:47
swanflo hok03:47
kubunterocoreymon77: still the same problem from early in the day03:47
computriusfunny, on fedora sound didnt work, wireless did03:47
Flying_EagleODC, there is ubuntu.com with an incredible readable wiki03:47
computriusnow on ubuntu sound does work, wireless doesnt03:47
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coreymon77kubuntero: which was...03:47
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coreymon77kubuntero: remind me03:48
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kubunteroI want to mount the /home partition on my drive as the /home of the FHS used by the Live CD03:48
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Admiral_ChicagoFlying_Eagle: language please03:51
kubuntero!language | Flying_Eagle03:52
ubotuFlying_Eagle: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:52
Flying_Eagleyes, i know03:52
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coreymon77kubuntero: okay03:52
Admiral_Chicagoi can tell you are frustrated but everyone gets frustrated. users looking for support, people giving support...etc.03:52
coreymon77kubuntero: cant do that03:52
driggettokay I'm back, using Konversation now03:53
coreymon77kubuntero: what you can do is mount your /home directory to another location03:53
Flying_EagleAdmiral_Chicago, i know. whether i am polite or quiet03:53
kubunterocoreymon77: can I mount my / for use by the Live CD?03:53
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coreymon77kubuntero: nope03:53
computriusare there drivers for prism based Wlan cards?03:54
coreymon77kubuntero: but you cant mount it to a different location03:54
tarnoldhey im installing the gstreamer packages with adept- will they work with the defualt movie players and such?03:54
Flying_Eaglecomputrius, yes03:54
tarnoldlike kaffiene?03:54
coreymon77kubuntero: follow these insctructions03:54
computriusspecifically dwl 52003:54
kubunterocoreymon77: can I mount it somewhere else and make that my path?03:54
Flying_Eaglei had prism 2 and prism54 working03:54
Flying_Eaglelatter with firmware03:54
coreymon77kubuntero: not sure03:54
coreymon77kubuntero: why would you need to?03:54
computriuswhere do I get firmware?03:54
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Flying_Eagleif not supplied by ubuntu (like for acx) then in the web i suggest...03:55
coreymon77kubuntero: ill help you moutn the partitions03:55
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coreymon77kubuntero: open a konsole window\03:55
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computriuseither way apparently ubuntu doesnt come with prism drivers03:56
coreymon77kubuntero: is one open?03:57
kubunterocoreymon77: I can mount them the issue I'm having is that the live cd user is 999 and my UID is 100003:57
Flying_Eaglecomputrius, what about the "restricted modules"?03:57
kubunteroI guess I can copy the config files over and change the UID :(03:57
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coreymon77kubuntero: i guess03:58
push2882i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp03:58
Flying_Eaglei got a pc with orinoco/prism card and it worked out of the box, computrius03:58
coreymon77kubuntero: if you can mount them, whats the problem03:58
push2882and with kubuntu its the same thing03:58
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kubunterocoreymon77: I just told you :)03:58
computriusmaybe feisty is different03:59
computriusI am looking in /lib/modules/....04:00
kubunteroArgh I just locked my self out of sudo04:00
computriusand nothing to the effect of prism04:00
push2882i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me04:00
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push2882i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me04:02
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Flying_Eaglecomputrius, i dont know the dwl 520, but if its a prism2-card then the driver is called orinoco04:02
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deweyis flash 9 available in kubuntu?04:03
Linux_MalayAssalamualaikum w.b.t.04:03
Flying_Eagledewey, yes04:03
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computriusno errors with modprobe, but no device made either04:04
Flying_Eaglepush2882, lesson 1: when you get an error-message and dont know how to handle it: google for it04:05
Flying_Eaglefirst hit should help04:05
Krisheanok, this is probably a simple question, but why can't i install xmms-mp4 or xmms-flac with apt-get?04:07
deweyFlying_Eagle, where is it?04:07
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Flying_Eaglei think in some experimental repository at least for dapper, dewey04:08
Krisheanits on the packages.ubuntu.com site, but it dosen't show up if i do dpkg -l 'xmms*'04:08
deweyhmmm ok I am on edgy04:08
Flying_EagleKrishean, search per apt-cache search04:08
Flying_Eaglei dont know why, but dpkg -l doesnt show you everything04:09
Krisheanapt-cache --help?04:09
Flying_Eagleapt-cache search whatever04:09
Flying_Eaglebut apt-cache --help isnt uncorrect either ;)04:09
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Krisheanniether of the packages show up04:10
Krisheani get basically the same stuff as i get from dpkg04:10
Flying_Eagledid you add the regarding repositories and if so, did you "apt-get update"?04:11
Krisheani dunno how to add repositories04:11
Krisheanbut i have done apt-get update04:11
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Flying_Eaglethen read how you do that -> wiki04:12
Flying_Eagledude, i hope that the english wiki is compareable to the german one04:12
Krisheanas far as i have seen the wiki is confusing in english04:13
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stdindewey: looking for flash 9?04:17
Flying_Eaglethat should get you further, Krishean04:18
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:18
Flying_Eagleokay... i searched for "repository" and got nothin useful04:19
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tarnoldalright how do i play dvds?04:20
stdinknowing the bot commands saves me tons of time :P04:20
tarnoldi added the restricted repositories but can't get casablanca to play04:21
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Flying_Eagletarnold, why dont you just use kaffeine?04:21
tarnoldbut its not working04:21
tarnoldsays its encrypted04:21
stdintarnold: take a look at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs you probably need libdvdcss2 (for protected disks)04:21
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tarnoldyes, but i though i had that- guess not, what do i need to do?04:22
sep1318you may have it, but you need to extract it. or some other words that make a bit more sense.04:22
Flying_Eaglefirst of all, youll probably need to break the law :(04:23
sep1318take stdin's suggestion, and look at the webpage04:23
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sep1318hehe yeah, that too.04:23
stdinFlying_Eagle: it's a stupid law anyway :P04:23
sep1318but i'm not quite sure on where that does/n't apply04:23
sep1318i second that.04:23
Flying_Eagleyes. but the gentleman who cracked the encryption got much trouble for his noble work04:24
tarnoldok all reading the webpage04:25
tarnoldi thought i enabled gstreamer in my package manager...what else is there to do?04:25
tarnoldim still confused04:25
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wifiohis there any way to force checkinstall into not using the packagename-version-release.deb syntax. i'd like checkinstall to use packagename-version.deb syntax instead04:25
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alberthi, i just had a strange crash. i installed edgy, did the security-updates and then my system froze04:27
albertafter that it wouldn't boot...04:27
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Flying_Eaglekernel panic?04:28
Flying_Eaglecan you boot an  older kernel version or sth?04:28
stdinwifioh: it uses the debian standard (name_version-release_arch.deb), you could tho, set the release to be blank, and see if that works04:28
albertyeah, kernel panic04:28
alberti formated04:28
albertbut i wonder, why this would happen04:29
Flying_Eaglei think - w/o further info - anyone else, too ;)04:29
Flying_Eaglemaybe the kernel was to be updated and the update failed04:30
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alberthopefully it will work this time04:30
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wifiohstdin: i can't seem to get it to default to anything other than 1. if i provide --pkgrelease '', it defaults to 104:30
alberti'm getting tired of reinstalling all the time ;)04:30
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wifiohstdin: also, same goes for --pkgarch '', it defaults to i38604:31
Krisheanok, it crashed again04:31
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Krisheanwasn't in the color configuration dialog this time either04:32
tarnoldcan i get the wireless to connect to a network on start up instead of having to manually activate it?04:32
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ODCI really like this so far04:32
stdinwifioh: hmm, don't know then, but why do you want to change it ?04:32
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Flying_Eagletarnold, yes. when not per gui then you could add "auto whateverdevicename" to your /etc/network/interfaces04:33
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tarnoldwhat do you mean when not per gui?04:34
tarnoldif the device is my wireless, and ive a broadcom(forget device name atm)?04:34
Flying_Eagletarnold, you should be able to do it in the controlcenter. but you can also do it manually by editing /etc/network/interfaces04:34
tarnoldah- how in hte control center?04:35
Krisheanhow do i find out whats freezing my machine?04:35
Flying_Eagleit should be obvious like "enable at bootup"04:36
EADGIs it possible to have an audio preview in Konqueror while hovering over a .mp3? Where do i config that?04:36
wifiohstdin: i wrote some custom scripts to check version numbers in that way, so having anything after that is garbage i rather not have. also, i find it aesthetically unappealing04:36
wifiohi have to go home now, but i'll be back in a bit, thanks for your help thus far stdin04:36
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stdinEADG: install the packagel libarts1-mpeglib04:37
deathnotehi im trying to instlal kubuntu edgy on my evo compaq laptop..it keeps going into BusyBox04:37
KubuntueroODC: Welcoome to the kubunt Fold :)04:37
underdog5004so, is there any way to stream video from a home-server that I've got? Cause right now I have to download vids to a tmp file and then wait for them to download...04:37
tarnoldflying_Eagle: i appearently can't find it im looking at kcontrol now, and am in internet options04:38
Flying_Eaglelook in the network-options04:38
ODCKubuntuero: thanks, I'll be exploring a lot here in the near future04:38
EADGstdin: Thanks.04:38
deathnotewhy am i keep going into BusyBox v1.1.304:38
albertmy adept manager won't download the extra-codecs04:38
ODCso far I've installed WINE and am working on the World of Warcraft thing04:38
Flying_Eaglealbert, they are in the multiverse-repository04:39
ODCThanks to Flying_Eagle's tough love, I've found a section all about WoW in the Ubuntu help files04:39
albertFlying_Eagle: i activated them, but the download won't start04:39
stdinunderdog5004: yeah, just use samba, nfs, ssh or ftp to stream, or you can use VLC to stream over network too04:39
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albertah, finally04:39
alberttook about 5 minutes04:39
underdog5004stdin, how can I use ssh/ftp to stream?04:39
Flying_EagleODC, hrhr, thanks :D04:39
deathnoteOHHHHHHHHH SHIT04:39
tarnoldFlying_Eagle: well i can't find it, so im not to sure about it,  but teh fact taht its 10 40 pm may have something to do with it04:39
deathnotei am booting from a USB CD ROM04:39
deathnoteis it because kubuntu can't detect04:39
deathnotethe cd rom04:40
deathnotecos i read the log it seems like so04:40
tarnold!language | deathnote:04:40
ubotudeathnote:: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:40
deathnotewho are u?04:40
tarnoldno ohh SH!T04:40
tarnoldcommen curetesy04:40
stdinunderdog5004: just set your media player to play from ftp://yourserver/dir/filename , some also work with fish://user@server/dir/filename , if not, you can mount both ftp and ssh with fuse04:40
deathnotelol..u can't even spell04:41
underdog5004gotcha, thanks a lot, stdin04:41
underdog5004you rock04:41
stdinI know :P04:41
tarnoldah hah bugger off if your gonna act like a twit04:41
stdinyou're welcome. underdog5004 :)04:41
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EADGstdin: package libarts1-mpeglib installed but no .mp3 preview. Any other suggestions off the top of your head?04:47
stdinEADG: 1st, make sure it's set right in View->Preview->Sound files, then, you may have to restart Konqueror to have it take effect, if that doesn't work, try logging out and back in04:49
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makuseruhow can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?04:51
EADGGonna try restarting X04:54
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EmeraldHello, I have a problem with my Kubuntu install- Whenever I try and boot from the LiveCD it will load up until a blue screen with a cursor05:02
EmeraldThen it will stop completely, and I can move my mouse- but do nothing else05:02
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EmeraldSo I'm wondering- What would generaly be the issue here?05:03
makuseruhow can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?05:07
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stdinsomething to do with the graphics card you have probably Emerald05:07
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krammerhas anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete?05:13
krammeri ran successfully, but it doesn't show up in my plugin list05:15
EmeraldAh, I have a 7800 GT, does that chip often cause problems ?05:15
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 1280x1024 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:18
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB05:19
=== NightBird prefears the good ol ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the X server... :P
rpvonzhow come i cant log into my su?05:19
EmeraldThanks for that, but I can't boot up the Live CD, so I'm not running linux right now.05:19
EmeraldIt just stops when it gets to the blue screen. I have a cursor that I can move, but that's about it.05:19
albert_hi, are there special drivers for each radeon serie?05:19
rpvonzdo i use the password i assigned?05:19
makuseruaphroguy: having problems getting 1280x102405:19
stdinEmerald: you can try booting to the Safe Graphics mode or, if that still fails, you can download the alternate install CD, which is the same as the Desktop install CD, except it's a text based installer05:19
aphroguyEmerald, what are your hardware specs?05:20
rpvonzalbert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29%7C%28driver%2905:20
aphroguyMakuseru, yes, I am.  Can't get above 1024x76805:20
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EmeraldOkay, I have a AMD Athlon 4000+, 1 GB of DDR RAM, NVidia 7800 GT, Creative Sound Blaster Value 205:20
emetkello kere05:20
EmeraldANd a MSI  05:20
EmeraldK8N Neo4 Platinum05:20
makuseruaphroguy: i have the same problem, the way i get 1280x1024 is to reconfigure X and choose 1280x1024 when it asks for resolution05:21
emetcan I have your video card05:21
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rpvonzi'm trying to run gksudo, it wont let me...05:21
albert_rpvonz: am i able to uninstall the drivers, if they fail to improve my performance or even reduce it?05:21
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rpvonzwhat is your card...05:21
EmeraldOkay, one sec05:21
albert_it happened to me in dapper, that they dropped my perfomance heavily05:21
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rpvonzalbert: video card?05:22
albert_ati radeon (diamond) 960005:22
rpvonzheh... should work...05:22
aphroguyEmerald, wow, definitely shouldn't be a hardware restraint.  But it could be the video card.  Try the alternate CD, and see if you're able to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before you actually boot to Kubuntu.  You may even have to get the nvidia drivers before booting to KDE.05:22
rpvonzi'm just installing for my x130005:22
Dr_willisati 9600 should work fine with the fglrx drivers05:22
albert_k, but in dapper the driver dropped my performance05:22
albert_couldn't watch videos anymore05:22
stdinrpvonz: gksudo? that's the gnome one, use kdesu05:22
rpvonzoh thanks!05:22
EmeraldOkay, I've got a eVGA N517 GeForce 7800GT05:22
EmeraldAlright then05:23
rpvonz*i made a newb mistake :(*05:23
EmeraldI'll try that05:23
aphroguyMakuseru, I've been through that a DOZENS of times, doesn't work.  Causes my x-server to crash at login, kicking me back to the login screen for an endless loop.05:23
krammernevermind i got it working05:24
makuserudoing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:24
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EmeraldI'll try doing that using the alternate- THanks so much!05:24
elijahhi somerville05:24
aphroguyMakuseru: Exactly.  If I try to select anything higher than my current resolution, it crashes.05:25
albert_should i choose the open-source drivers or the ati drivers?05:25
Dr_willisaphroguy,  you get to the KDM login? and then the X server crashes after you login?05:25
makuserudoes your moniter support it?05:25
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Ashexso, my menu bar just died05:25
elijahhi everyone05:26
rpvonznother newb question i opened kdesud, but i mistyped the directory, now it says warning kdesud is running...05:26
aphroguyThat's right, Dr, takes me back to the login screen after it goes blank.05:26
Dr_willisaphroguy,  and you have an ati card?05:26
Ashexwhat's the name of the k app that's that bar?05:26
stdinAshex: you mean kicker?05:26
Ashexstdin, that's the one!05:26
elijahwhy some controls like system date & network properties are disabled using my log-in?05:26
Ashexyeah, it crashed when kaffeine launched05:27
aphroguyNo, crappy HP Pavilion notebook and S3 graphics twister integrated video.05:27
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Dr_williselijah,  ther should be an 'administrator mode' button thats at the bottom of the panel/window. BUT i find that often the window is sized where its not noticeable at first.05:27
kubunteroWhere is kopete info kept?05:27
aphroguyBut the card supports up to 1280x1024, as does the 17" CRT that's plugged into it.05:27
Dr_willisaphroguy,  Hmm.. i had a similer issuw with ati cards, and the 'accelerated' video mode.. but not tried a S3.05:28
aphroguyThe LCD display is shot, can't see a display at all.05:28
elijahdr willis, is there any other way for me to find that?05:28
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Dr_williselijah,  maxamize the window05:28
elijahor maybe can i make my log-in equivalent to root?05:28
makuseruaphroguy: dunno why it shoudl work i have ATI 7000 and a 15"05:28
makuseruand i use 1280x102405:28
Dr_williselijah,  you are trying too hard. :) just maxamize the window.05:28
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elijahhe he05:29
rpvonz...ugh whats the default password for kdesu!!!05:29
elijahok thanks05:29
elijahi'll try that05:29
makuserusame as your root pass rpvonz05:29
rpvonzi tried it...05:29
elijahthank you so much dr willis05:29
rpvonzit don't work...05:29
Dr_williselijah,  i got no idw why the problem happens in kubuntu. other kde based disrtos dont have the issue.05:29
NixHexrpvonz: its your personal password05:29
Dr_williselijah,  however. once ya mazamize the window once.. i think it rembers and shows up right from then on. :)05:29
stdinkubuntero: what do you mean by "kopete info"? the settings?05:29
rpvonzi tried that...05:30
rpvonzi think i forgot it...05:30
kubunterostdin: Yes I want to move my accounts to a new machine05:30
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rpvonzit keeps sayin permission denied....05:31
NixHexrpvonz: whats the command you are trying?05:31
stdinkubuntero: it would be in the ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ directory and the ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc file05:31
rpvonzkdesu gedit gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common05:32
rpvonzno two gedits sry05:32
stdinrpvonz: use kate, not gedit05:32
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NixHexrpvonz: its not gedit...its kate or even kwrite05:32
makuseruor nano05:32
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rpvonztoo used to gnome!05:33
aphroguyNANO IS TEH BOM!05:33
rpvonzha it worked, you guys are the best...05:33
aphroguyI'd recommend Nano for anything.05:34
aphroguyINCLUDING a stellar HTML IDE. :-D05:34
rpvonzheh... how do i enable the disabled ati modules...05:34
rpvonzcould someone do this for me... like over a vnc client??? :)05:35
rpvonzi know i'm going to screw something up...05:35
makuseruwhat are you trying to do05:35
rpvonzinstall ati drivers05:35
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makuseruits not hard05:35
rpvonzill screw something up...05:35
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rpvonzseriously i havetried this like 5 times before05:36
rpvonzi will05:36
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makuseruif you do remember just use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:36
makuseruso you can get back in05:36
rpvonzi cant remember that!!!05:36
makuseruwrite it down05:36
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rpvonzugh, do it for me! :)05:36
makuseruno, its prefectially simple to get flgrx drivers05:37
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makuserui use ati05:37
rpvonz...and thats why ive had to reinstall this os like ten times...05:37
aphroguyRpvonz, you can do it from Konsole, as long as you log out once you're done and restart the X-server.05:37
makuserueven though my card is too old for flgrx05:37
rpvonzi'm uncomfortable doing it, do it for me ;)05:37
makuserujust because you mess up installing a video driver dosnt mean you have to reinstall the OS05:38
makuseruyou just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:38
rpvonzjust do it for me please!!05:38
rpvonzyou can try vnc!05:38
rpvonzi need a linux pro!05:38
makuseruim a highschool student05:39
rpvonzi'm middle school goin to highschool...05:39
makuseruand just a sophmore at that05:39
makuseruyou can figure it out05:39
makuseruit is not hard05:39
rpvonzah whatever05:39
makuseruand demanding things will never get you what you want05:39
rpvonzi know05:39
makuserulike the ubuntu forums say, we are not employees, weare volunters05:39
rpvonzyour very nice volunteers :)05:40
rpvonzwho strive to make ubuntu perfect!05:40
albertcan anybody tell me the command line for downloading java?05:40
rpvonzwell how do i enable the module, i'm in the config file...05:40
golum83hi i have a problem, i have already downloaded the flash player tu see videos on youtube05:41
golum83but i can watch it05:41
rpvonzit not flash player 905:41
rpvonzor whatever the latest is05:41
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash05:41
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:41
golum83let me see thanks05:41
albertyeah, i finally learned to think05:41
makuserutheres the package albet05:41
kubunterostdin: Righteous05:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:41
Bearcathey folks05:42
makuseruso sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre05:42
aphroguyHi Bearcat05:42
rpvonzwhat would this be -> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" is it the ati drivers... or should i leave it alone???05:42
albert!multiverse java05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multiverse java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
Bearcati'm having a bit of  a problem here. I have a fix, but it feels more like a patch. kppp does not handle the default gateway properly. i can fix that by using route, but when i reboot it is back to it's bad behavior. It strikes me that this should have been fixed a long time ago so i must be doing somehting wrong. See here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/5387705:44
NixHex hey, anyone know if they have done a 64bit port of flash plugin? (already asked in Ubuntu+1...waiting response)05:44
NixHexin feisty05:44
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BearcatNixHex: nope. It doesn't exist for any distro05:44
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rpvonzDISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" i'm going to delete this disabled module!!105:44
stdinNixHex: there is no 64bit flash (from adobe/macromedia), you'll have to make do with gnash05:44
userundyou can run a 32bit firefox, that's what I hear some people do to get around flash05:45
rpvonzdo i just delete the fglrx part of it!05:45
NixHexstdin: nah, I'll just install 32bit firefox...just wondering if they came up for a port of it in feisty05:45
stdinNixHex: they can't, the ubuntu devs don't make flash05:46
aphroguyBearcat: Shell script?  You're right, it would be more of a patch, but unless you want to edit the program itself, it's PROBABLY the only option.  Granted, I'm not that familiar with kppp.05:46
rpvonzmakuseru: do i delete fglrx off of this line to get it working???... DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"05:46
Bearcataphroguy: doesn't it strike you as strange that such a basic bug would be over 6 months old?05:47
userundBearcat: not really.  I've seen worse.05:47
makuserurpvonz: i dont know, dont use flgrx05:47
aphroguyIn the software dev world, no.05:47
stdinBearcat: have you checked that the bug has been reported ?05:47
rpvonzi did it...05:47
rpvonzhope it doesn't get screwed05:47
Bearcatbecause not that many people use dial-up anymore?05:47
Bearcatstdin: on bugs.kde.org? nope05:48
stdinBearcat: no, on launchpad05:48
Dr_willisthe only pc i got with a modem.. is my laptop. :)05:48
Dr_willisand ive never used that feature.05:48
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stdinBearcat: https://bugs.launchpad.net05:48
Bearcatstdin: yeah, i posted a link to it in my question. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/5387705:48
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports05:49
Bearcati'm not using kubuntu myself, i'm just supporting it. I suppose i'm gonna have to make a script to do this. Is it suficient to just put it in rl 3?05:50
ubotuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP.05:50
Bearcati'll try putting it in bootmisc05:51
rpvonzi dont like nano how do i exit without saving!!!05:51
stdinBearcat: runlevel 2 is the default runlevel05:51
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stdinrpvonz: Ctrl-X, then press n05:51
Bearcatstdin: right, but it would have to run after the network script, wouldn't it?05:51
stdinBearcat: yeah, but the scripts for rl 3 are never run, unless the user runs "init 3"05:52
Bearcatstdin: what? I'm still confused by ubuntu.05:53
elijahhi, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.05:53
elijahwhat should i do?05:53
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stdinBearcat: the system boots in to runlevel 2, and stays there05:53
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Bearcatstdin: then how does the system even get to kde since that's all in rl 5?05:54
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rpvonzi think i might have installed the ati drivers correctly!!!05:54
stdinBearcat: no, it's in rl 205:54
golum83hi i have already the version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help05:54
stdinBearcat: no, it's in rl 2, /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm starts KDE05:54
rpvonzcan i pm someone knowledgeable to see if its right (i ran fglrxinfo)05:55
stdinBearcat: well, KDM antway05:55
Bearcatstdin: isn't that counter to standards? Not that it's a bad thing.05:55
stdinBearcat: it's just the way all debian based systems work05:55
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rpvonzi think i got it!05:56
elijahstdin, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.05:56
kubunterojuc/j #kubuntu-devel05:56
rpvonzthanks for your guys' help onto installing xgl!!!05:56
Bearcatstdin: i'll mess with it and bug you if i have problems. Thanks :P05:56
ctwHi, I have a weired apt-get / dpkg issue that I'm hoping somebody might be able to help me out with05:56
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ctwearlier today I got an error message during an upgrade concerning libgphoto2-205:57
ctwI uninstalled it and that triggered the uninstall of kubuntu-desktop and several other packages05:57
ctwI then tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop05:58
ctwand now I'm getting dependency problems for the packages that were previously deinstalled05:58
ctwI'm running Feisty05:58
stdinelijah: open Konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole" and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then tell me what happens05:58
ctwbut I'm running it on two computers05:58
ctwand it only affects one05:58
ctwdoes anybody have any idea what to do?05:59
ctwI'm hitting a wall ...05:59
stdinctw: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post the output to http://pastebin.ca so I can have a look05:59
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ctwstdin: see the above lin06:01
ctwthanks for taking a look ... any idea?06:01
elijahthanks stdin, i'll try that06:02
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mardihi, anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?06:03
NightBirdhuh... kubuntu doesn't like it when I try to shutdown or log out...06:03
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matt____kubuntu doesnt see my cd rom, do I need to get drivers somewhere or something?06:03
carutsuhow in world do i turn on zeroconf06:04
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB06:04
carutsushouldnt it be ZERO conf for that...06:04
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carutsuomg its not even installed06:04
carutsuthen is pointles06:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:04
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:04
NightBirdmatt____, wow, it doesn't see your cdrom?  uh... do other operating systems detect it?06:04
carutsuthats weird06:05
stdinctw: wow, those are some strange errors there06:05
carutsustdin hello06:05
matt____windows sees it and it shows up in the bios06:05
NightBirdmatt____, and you installed from it as well I'm guessing, right?06:05
stdinhey carutsu06:05
NightBirdmost curious...06:05
matt____I am pretty sure it doesnt see it, I cant find it anywhere06:06
carutsustdin i had to instal xine and now kaffeine is pointless on my pc. xD06:06
ctwstdin: I know06:06
NightBirdmatt____, have you checked the dev directory?06:06
ctwstdin: I have no idea what to do06:06
matt____how would I go about checking it06:06
NightBirdit may just be that it isn't automounting cd's for some reason..06:06
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB06:07
NightBirdmatt____, the directory is in /dev/06:07
carutsuhow do i turn it on?06:07
NightBirdbut I don't know what device it would be..06:07
NightBirdcarutsu, did you install it?06:07
carutsuNightBird yes06:07
aleskain gnome's nautilus, I was able to add a hard delete along with the typical move to trash.  Is there a way to do so in konquerer as well?06:07
carutsubut the daemon isnt runing...06:07
mardiwhy even produce a news reader that can't filter cross posts?06:07
carutsuNightBird but the daemon isnt runing...06:08
K`zanaleska: shift-del in konq to just delete...06:08
NightBirdcarutsu, go to system settings, advanced, and there should be something about auto run, or daemons, or something similar...06:08
aleskathx K'zan06:08
NightBird(I have windows open right now due to having to work on some homework06:08
aleskaanyway to make it appear as an option when right-clicking a file?06:08
NightBirdso I can't tell you what it is exactly..06:08
NightBirdyeah, services06:08
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NightBirdgo in there, see if it's on that list06:08
carutsusystem services or Services Administrator?06:09
NightBirdsystem services06:09
NightBirdif it is, start it, and then set it to autostart06:09
carutsuNightBird ok06:09
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carutsuNightBird i still cant belive its not on by default ZEROconf, xD06:09
ctwstdin: any idea what I could try?06:09
NightBirdcarutsu, yeah, if you install it, I would have imagined that it would have auto started it, but maybe not06:10
carutsuits not listed06:10
stdinctw: have you tried reinstalling the package libcaca0, files from that seem to be the problem06:10
carutsuNightBird its not listed06:10
carutsuNightBird should i restart? omg i'm still windowed xD06:10
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd06:10
jnlwhats going on here?06:10
NightBirdok, what about going to konsole, and try typing the begining of the name06:10
NightBirdthen tab06:11
carutsui did06:11
NightBirdno good?06:11
carutsuit says error dont-know-what needed06:11
NightBirdso there was a program named that?06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kasamblanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
ubotukasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB06:11
NightBirdcarutsu: try using kdesu on it06:11
ubotukftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB06:11
carutsuusage error06:12
carutsuzeroconf [-f|--force]  [-v|--verbose]  [-n|--no-fork]  [-i|--interface]  <interface>06:12
carutsu        -f      force zeroconf to run on the specified interface06:12
carutsu        -v      report verbose information06:12
carutsu        -n      do not fork into the background06:12
carutsu        -i      which interface to run on [required] 06:12
carutsuomg sorry mistaken06:12
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NightBirdinclude the interface you want to use zeroconf on06:12
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carutsuit says something that mdnsd the daemon isnt runing06:13
intelikeyhow many in here know that  apt-get remove 'blah' will break dependancies ?06:13
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intelikeyE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).06:13
intelikeyand all i did was apt-get remove -y blah06:13
NightBirdintelikey, yeah, it can06:13
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intelikeyNightBird yes, i know.  but it shouldn't.06:14
carutsuNightBird should i restart?06:14
ctwstdin: any idea how I can reinstall libcac0?06:14
NightBirdintelikey, why not?06:14
ctwstdin: see the link to the error above06:14
NightBirdapt-get isn't intelligent enough to detect that kind of stuff06:14
intelikeynightbird that's the whole reason behind apt.06:15
NightBirdno, apt-get just downloads detected dependencies on install06:15
carutsuNightBird should i restart?06:15
stdinctw: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcac0"06:15
NightBirdcarutsu: no06:15
NightBirdaptitude and it's console version auto handles removal of dependines, and will warn about breaking known dependencies06:15
NightBirdcarutsu, which interface do you want to configure?06:16
NightBirdeth0? eth1? wlan0?06:16
carutsunone of them06:16
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carutsui want to acces a shared06:16
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
NightBirdzeroconf handles configuring your network interfaces..06:17
ctwsdtin: these errors keep getting stranger: http://pastebin.ca/38459106:17
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carutsuzeroconf is also for shared services as far as i know06:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
rayluNightBird, wouldn't that be the same as ifconfig/up/down?06:17
elijahhi stdin06:17
NightBirdwhat kind of shared resources?06:17
raylualbert, are you trying to get an image viewer?06:17
NightBirdraylu, it probably does things a bit more elagently :P06:17
golum83hi i have already the version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help?06:17
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albertyeah, sth like irfanview in windows06:18
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albertsmall and easy to use06:18
raylugolum83, what browser?06:18
carutsui found it06:18
carutsuenable zero conf network browsing06:18
stdinhey elijah :)06:18
NightBirduh.. ok06:18
raylualbert, i'm not familiar with irfanview or sth...but gwenview should serve your purposes06:18
santosalbert,  gwenview06:18
elijahstdin i tried what you said but to no avail, i tried "apt-get update" on the console but it says that "E: 'cdrom' is unknown"06:18
albertthank you two06:18
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raylugolum83, when you go to youtube, doesn't it ask you to install a missing plugin?06:19
stdinctw: I'm beginning to think that you have some disk corruption06:19
elijahwhy the update is pointed to the cdrom?06:19
kubunterocarutsu: Where?06:19
golum83yes i have already downloaded and with alien convrted to deb and installed06:19
stdinelijah: because you have a CD as a source in your sources.list06:19
raylugolum83, you shouldn't have needed to convert with alien06:19
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carutsukubuntero is im not sure how is spelled on english, something like network preferences06:19
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elijahstdin where will i remove that?06:19
golum83i convert the rpm file06:19
raylugolum83, I'm guessing you had to do a manual install?06:20
ctwstdin: is there anything I could to to test that06:20
golum83yes manual from konsole06:20
rayluthere is a libflash-mozplugin06:20
kubunterocarutsu: ah ok06:20
ctwstdin: I turned off to computer this morning without properly shutting it down ... might that be part of the problem?06:20
rayluand a flashplayer-mozilla06:20
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: Macromedia Flash Player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.0.79-0.2 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 1528 kB (Only available for i386)06:20
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ubotulibflash-mozplugin: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB06:21
rayluhm...I can't tell which one you need06:21
dtc_anyone know of a nice gui for mounting iso's like Windows daemon ?06:21
jackhello all06:21
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rayludtc_, acetoneISO, but it didn't work for me06:21
stdinelijah: in Konsole, type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then add a # to the beginning of the line the cd info on it (should be the top line), then press Ctrl-O, then Crtl-X06:21
raylu!hi | jack06:21
ubotujack: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:21
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golum83let me install libflash the other one i have already installed and not working06:21
dtc_thanks raylu... I'll try that06:22
lupobuon giornno06:22
rayludtc_, if you're mounting the same stuff over and over, I suppose you could write a script for it06:22
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ctwstdin: I have jfs06:22
stdinctw: it could be, I'd run a check by shutting down with "sudo shutdown -rF now" (will shutdown and restart immediately)06:23
dtc_kind of... I've got like 15 iso's that are movies sitting on an external drive, don't want to write a different script for each though06:23
stdinctw: jfs?06:23
elijahthanls stdin06:23
golum83I installed libflash-mozplugin and not working06:23
elijahi'll try it again06:23
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stdinctw: notsure if fsck works on jfs06:23
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stdinctw: but give it a try, it defiantly looks like some files got messed up06:24
lupo la prima volta che uso un canale irc chi mi spiega le regole?06:24
stdinelijah: after you change the file, and save it, you'll have to run "sudo apt-get update" first, to make the changes take effect06:25
carutsui cant06:25
carutsui just cant06:25
stdin!it | lupo06:25
ubotulupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:25
carutsuthis is the only drawback i can find06:25
rayludtc_, er, no, you can specify arguments in the script of course06:25
ctwsdtin: it seems like fsck will work, but it warns me about not running it on a mounted filesystem06:25
lupocome devo fare?06:25
raylugolum83, I still think it should install automatically when you tell it to in FF06:25
ctwsdtin: so I guess I'll get a live CD and check it06:25
ctwsdtin: thanks so much for your help06:26
lupobuon giorno dal lupo06:26
stdinctw: no problem, let me know how it turns out :)06:26
dtc_yea thats true... thanks for the help... gonna try the acetoneISO thing first though06:26
rayludon't make the mistake I did of compiling it yourself :D06:27
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rayluwait...perhaps that's why...06:27
ctwsdtin: it'll have to wait until tomorrow ... I currently don't have physical access to the computer ... it's at work ... I'm ssh'ing into it right now06:28
golum83FF? sorry mi ignorance06:28
golum83ok well let me continue trying thanks06:28
stdinctw: no problem, I'm always here, even when I'm not actually here :P06:29
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stdinctw: and it's stdin, not sdtin, I keep missing your messages :P06:30
carutsuNightBird it says NT acces denied06:30
mardianyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?06:30
raylutab ftw!06:30
NightBirdcarutsu, I'm working on homework right now, I won't be able to help you06:32
NightBirdplus, I don't know anything about getting printers to work06:32
makuseruhow can i convert .ogm to .avi or .mpg?06:32
raylucarutsu, what says NT access denied?06:32
ubotuogmtools: Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.5-2.1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 472 kB06:33
raylui've never used it, so I don't know what will happen ^06:33
ctwstdin: oh sorry ... I actually did a lot of writing recently where I used the abbreviation SDT06:33
raylubut it *might* work06:33
ctwstdin: of course stdin makes much more sense ... :)06:33
carutsuwhen i try to find the printer06:33
stdinctw: heh, it's ok, I've been called worse ;)06:33
ctwstdin: but it's so engrained in my fingers now06:33
ctwstdin: :)06:34
raylucarutsu, er...with what?06:34
carutsuwith the prinder manager of KDE06:34
carutsuits shared on a windows pc06:34
stdinctw: you can always just use the tab key to compleat my nick, like std<TAB> goes to stdin :)06:34
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ctwstdin: wow I didn't know that06:35
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ctwstdin: thanks!06:35
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stdinstdin: no problem :)06:35
raylu[23:30:46]  <raylu> tab ftw!06:35
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ctwstdin: oh I missed your message about the check at restart06:36
ctwstdin: will try that out now06:36
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raylucarutsu, are you in administrator mode?06:37
stdinctw: you'll be disconnected, and it may ask for user input at the box, so it may not be a good idea right now06:37
ctwstdin: too late ... oh well I'll have physical access to it tomorrow06:38
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ctwstdin: don't need to stay connected right now06:38
ctwstdin: let's see if it comes up again06:38
stdinctw: heh, well at least you have a clue of what may be wrong with it now06:39
carutsuraylo: yes06:39
rayluhm...I dunno then06:39
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raylunow that I think about it, I've never actually printed anything with this computer on linux, ever06:39
ctwstdin: yeah, thanks so much!06:39
JoshooaWhich do you guys prefer, Gaim or Kopete?06:39
ctwstdin: could my hard reset caused the file corruption?06:39
carutsuraylo: actually i lied... in administrator i ant configure a printer06:39
ctwstdin: or is something wrong with the HD?06:39
rayluKopete, though for some reason people will actually use Gaim on Windows06:40
JoshooaI had Gaim on windows06:40
JoshooaBut now I don't want to ever use windows again06:40
raylucarutsu, I believe it's easier to get Windows clients to connect to a printer on Linux than vice-versa06:40
raylukopete feels so much more customizable and smaller06:40
stdinctw: it looks like corruption, so it's either that some files weren't written well at shutdown, or bad sectors on the disk, which is a bit more of a problem06:41
carutsuraylu 1)doesnt metter for me (unfortunetly) 2)i love kopete with its so useful skins06:41
raylucarutsu, er...why is it unfortunate that it doesn't matter?06:42
rayluoh, do you mean the printer has to be hooked up to the windows one?06:42
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carutsuraylu: that its easier conecting windows to linux... i cant instal linux on "the server"06:42
JoshooaI just really started using Linux this week with Ubuntu, and after finally getting online and barely getting used to it, I switched to Kubuntu yesterday, and I feel all lost agaain06:42
rayluhaha...nix clients connecting to windows servers...06:43
rayluuse command-line, the universal interface!06:43
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rayluactually...after using the linux shell for a few days, the windows cmd prompt seemed totally foreign to me06:43
raylui kept typing ls and it kept saying "no, screw you"06:44
ctwstdin: it doesn't look like my computer is coming back ... I'll have to check on it tomorrow ... :(06:44
carutsuwell i'd have to use "tha bad way" to print06:44
ctwstdin: thanks again so much I hope it's not something bad with the HD06:44
raylucarutsu, do you have any permission to do stuff on "the server?"06:44
ctwstdin: will the output of fsck tell me what the problem is?06:45
LamingtonI once worked at this place where a guy who just finished univeristy showed me how to change all the DOS commands in hexadecimal06:45
carutsuraylu actually none of the users has password06:45
LamingtonSo I changed the commands to bash commands06:45
Lamingtonpeople went nuts06:45
Perunahow can I rename mounted drivers ?06:45
raylulol...even in hex, wouldn't "dir" be too long for "ls?"06:45
Perunalike hda1 to Windows06:45
Dr_willisHmm.. there are bash commands you can get for the windows shell.06:45
stdinctw: yeah, it will be quite obvious if there are errors, normally fsck doesn't output much, so if you see some long lines, you know that something is wrong06:45
raylucygwin has something like bash commands, I believe06:46
raylubut after installing openssh on windows, every bash command returned a cygwin error...06:46
Dr_willistheres alternatives to cygwin. :)06:46
ubuntu"Critical error during ped_disk_new!"06:46
Lamingtonraylu: it was a long time ago now... I wouldnt remember how but I did change the commands to bash commands... hehe... you should have seen people try to use the DOS prompt06:46
raylufor Peruna's question, I believe you can unmount it, create a folder calld Windows, and mount it there06:46
ubuntuI cant acces the partition tables for my hdd06:46
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ctwstdin: I just could log back in06:47
raylubut I'm not sure, and I was hoping someone else would answer that06:47
ctwstdin: what do I do now ... my computer is back online06:47
ubuntuI blame windows...06:47
Perunathnx raylu06:47
rayluit worked?06:48
stdinctw: 1st I'd delete the file "/var/cache/apt/archives/libcaca0_0.99.beta11.debian-2build1_i386.deb", then run "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcaca0" again06:48
ctwstdin: I cecked in /var/logs/fsck06:48
Perunacan you tell me the way to unmount ?06:48
Perunasudo unmount dev/hda1 ?06:48
ctwstdin: it looks good06:48
rayluPeruna, umount06:48
Perunaoh ok06:48
ubuntuI dont want to format my harddrive... This doesnt look good06:48
rayluactually, I think just "sudo umount hda1" will do it06:49
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raylubut I usually don't mount stuff manually so, again, I'm not sure06:49
Perunaoh it says that hda1 not found06:49
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stdinraylu: no, you have to either use the mountpoint, or the device06:49
rpvonzjust installed ati drivers for kubuntu...06:49
rpvonzand now signal is overrange...06:50
rpvonztold you i would screw up!06:50
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raylustdin, isn't hda1 the logical name for the device?06:50
ctwstdin: I'm getting the same error :(06:51
rpvonzsomeone help me...06:51
JoshooaJust making sure it highlights06:51
raylurpvonz, you'll have to describe in more detail06:51
stdinraylu: no, it's /dev/hda06:51
stdinctw: the one with "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptordpkg-deb:" ?06:52
rpvonzi installed the fglrx drivers in ubuntu, it said i installed everything fine... the signal is over range now and it wont allow me too view, which is obviously a display error06:52
nixternalrpvonz: LCD?06:52
nixternalrpvonz: press the Auto-Config button on your LCD if you have one. that fixes it for me everytime06:52
PerunaI tried : sudo umount /dev/hda1 << error: not mounted06:52
ctwstdin: http://pastebin.ca/38462206:52
stdinDr_willis: probably same as "out of range"06:52
ctwstdin: here's the error ... it looks like the first one I had06:52
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rpvonzdr willis: yes out of range is the same06:53
rpvonzare you sure the button will work?06:53
rayluPeruna, mount -l06:53
rpvonzill probably be back06:53
nixternalI would get that every now and then as it seems when leaving the bootup procedure, the lcd wouldn't refresh and would get stuck at a lower res then what was being pushed06:53
PerunaI already have hda1 in use atm06:54
rpvonzthat sounds perfectly plausible, thanks for all your guys' help06:54
rayluPeruna, what do you mean in use?06:54
nixternalrpvonz: not guaranteeing it, because if it works for me, it may not work for you, but just a shot in the dark :)06:54
Perunadriver list has hda1 folder06:54
Perunaso I think the driver is mounted06:54
rayluPeruna, er...you mean drive?06:55
Perunamedia folder has hda106:55
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rayluPeruna, oh, you tried the thing I said, not what stdin said, I think06:55
rayluuse: umount /dev/hda06:55
ctwstdin: hold on, I think I might have found a way to solve the problem06:55
ctwstdin: give me a min06:56
Perunaumount dev/hda106:56
Perunaumount: dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)06:56
Peruna./dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)06:56
stdinPeruna: put a / bedore dev, it's important06:56
Perunasame result06:57
rayluit actually says "/dev/hda1" isn't mounted? o.006:57
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Dr_willisi always mount /media/hda106:57
Dr_willisbut i dont think it matters06:57
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Dr_willismount | grep hda06:58
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Dr_willissee if it says its mounted.06:58
Perunaactually hda1 has been there in /media/ since I installed Kubuntu06:58
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Perunaumount dev/hda106:58
Perunaumount: dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)06:58
Peruna./dev/disk/by-uuid/7A6C50026C4FB821 on /media/hda1 type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other)06:59
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rayluwhat the hell?06:59
dasickishow do you get suspend to work?06:59
stdinheh, UUIDs :P06:59
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rpvonzlol it didn't work06:59
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rpvonzapparently my monitor doesn't let me do anything when its over range06:59
stdinPeruna: try "umount /media/hda1" instead07:00
rayluo.0, so what's with this UUID thing?07:00
dasickisrpvonz: who are you talking to ?07:00
Perunaumount: /media/hda1 mount disagrees with the fstab07:00
Perunawith -l ?07:00
rayluthe channel, i suppose; a bunch of people helped him07:00
stdin!uuid | raylu07:00
uboturaylu: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)07:00
rpvonzsomeone who gave me that crappy answer =)07:00
rayluPeruna, mount -l lists everything about what's mounted07:00
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ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:00
dasickisoo i thought it was directed to me but there's like 10 conversations in this place at once07:00
stdinraylu: it's a unique identifier for each partition07:00
ctwstdin: Bingo! It all works now!07:00
raylustdin, i did that already, but I don't07:01
ctwstdin: thanks so much for your help07:01
Perunasigh not working07:01
ctwstdin: I followed your advice from earlier07:01
ctwstdin: and re-installed several libraries07:01
ctwstdin: and now it all works again07:01
stdinraylu: you could shrink, grow, or move the partition, and the UUID would be the same07:01
rpvonzso should i just reinstall kubuntu since the signal is overrange because of the fglrx drivers07:01
ctwstdin: yey!07:01
stdinctw: wooh :P07:01
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rpvonz...this is why i still have windows...07:01
dasickisrpvonz: can't u just uninstall the fglrx drivers?07:02
ubotugawk: GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.5.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1940 kB07:02
rpvonzahem i'm a newb at linux dasickis07:02
dasickisrpvonz: and use the generic ati drivers?07:02
stdinctw: those were some fun errors to sort out :P07:02
rpvonzi used generic i think...07:02
rpvonzfglrx is generic right?07:02
dasickiswait so what's your problem?07:02
stdinrpvonz: no07:03
rpvonzsignal overragne07:03
dasickisno its the propietary driver07:03
rpvonzi dont like generic...07:03
stdinrpvonz: "ati" is the open driver (IIRC)07:03
ctwstdin: I didn't even know where to start ... I had never seen that before07:03
ctwstdin: I thought it was a feisty issue07:03
rpvonzwell... why do my windows lag...07:03
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ctwstdin: but when my computer at home didn't have those problems, I got suspicious07:03
stdinctw: truth is, I'd never seen those errors before either07:03
scarvellrpvonz: you running XGL or Beryl in the background?07:04
dasickisctw: is feisty a lot of trouble to upgrade to?07:04
ctwstdin: at least you seem to have some better linux problem solving skillz than I ... :)07:04
Joshooastdin: Did you say something to me just a minute ago?07:04
ctwdasickis: it was really easy07:04
mardianyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?07:04
dasickisoo ok07:04
ctwdasickis: the easiest upgrade so far07:04
dasickisctw: does suspend work well?07:04
stdinJoshooa: nope, not that I can see07:04
ctwdasickis: definitely better than edgy07:05
dasickisctw: thanks07:05
ctwdasickis: suspend has worked for me07:05
dasickisctw: nice i'll upgrade now07:05
JoshooaHmm, okay, I closed Kopete and it said that i had one from you, oh well guess nt07:05
ctwdasickis: better than edgy was meant for the install07:05
ctwdasickis: but I haven't had problems with suspend07:05
stdinctw: years of fixing my own f***-ups :P07:05
rpvonzscarvell: no i'm not running xgl, thats kinda why i want the ati drivers.. =)07:05
dasickisrpvonz: are u trying to run compiz or something?07:06
rpvonzdasickis: yes, kinda...07:06
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dasickisctw: what's the best way to replace all the edgy instances in sources.list07:07
sparri ran a game and now im stuck in 640x400 resolution.  kde control center cant change it, xrandr cant change it.  help?07:07
dasickisrpvonz: what directions did you follow?07:07
rpvonzdasickis: the ones on the ubuntu help...07:07
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dasickisctw: I'm want to learn how to do it via command line (CL)07:08
LL_Hakaisouack o_007:08
ctwdasickis: search and replace edgy -> feisty07:08
LL_Hakaisoui'll have to play with guarddog later07:08
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dasickisctw: what's the CL verison of that07:08
ctwdasickis: I've seen some instructions for a comand line command that does it, and that's what I used, but I had to look it up07:08
ctwdasickis: and I don't remember anymore07:08
dasickisctw: oo thanks07:08
ctwdasickis: google it07:08
stdindasickis: sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list07:08
JoshooaCan someone say my name so I can see what it will look like?07:08
dasickisi was thinking sed07:08
ctwstdin: I think there was something similar, but I'm sure that works too07:09
dasickisstdin: i need to learn regex do you have any good tutorials you know of besides google?07:09
stdindasickis: I only know what I've experimented with, and with the help of kregexpeditor07:10
dasickisstdin: thanks that'll be quite handy07:10
ctwok, got to go thanks again for the hlep07:10
dasickisafter the feisty upgrade I need to restart right?07:11
stdinyou can go with a sense of accomplishment now ctw :)07:11
stdindasickis: yeah, to boot the new kernel07:11
scarvellDC SEND xenoix LINUX_ubuntu_6.10_ati_driver_and_support.txt07:12
scarvelloh whoops07:12
scarvellforgot the /07:12
dasickisstdin: yeah I figured but it's always a pain07:12
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sparrsomething has royally f*cked my xorg.conf.  it now has only 5 resolutions, not including my max 1280x1024, including some weird ones like 1280x854.  X is now running with a viewport.  pre-reboot, xrandr listed a dozen valid resolutions.  help?07:14
stdindasickis: this box has been online for 4 days, that's short for what I normally do, but with all the feisty updates, sometimes you need to restart07:14
dasickisstdin: once I upgrade to feisty I'll lose all my kernel changes right?07:14
dasickisstdin: yeah, it just reminds me of windoze days07:14
stdindasickis: yeah, feisty is on 2.6.20-9 now, but you can still use the old kernel, it shouldn't be uninstalled07:14
dasickisstdin: oo no that's good, I've made so many changes I needed to rollback07:15
dasickisstdin: I've had to install edgy so many times because of my experimentations07:15
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dasickisstdin: I'm pretty sure my HP is going to die soon due to my abuse07:15
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stdindasickis: nah, I've been abusing my HP for years :P07:16
dasickisstdin: but there's no other way for me to learn except without testing everything to its limits07:16
dasickisstdin: that's good to hear because my HP always sounds like death07:16
stdindasickis: but I did have a HDD blowup one07:16
dasickisstdin: they make pretty good stuff07:16
dasickisstdin: lol wow07:16
stdindasickis: yeah, it was quite a surprise :P07:17
scarvelli also recently lost a hdd07:17
scarvellit died :(07:17
dasickisstdin: actually my external died07:17
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dasickisstdin: i'm trying to see if its under seagate warranty but I can't find out07:17
dasickisstdin: I think it was because I naively pulled it out without unmounting07:17
dasickisstdin: i did this multiple times, quite stupid on my part07:18
stdindasickis: yeah, just ask ctw about unmounting cleanly, he knows :P07:18
dasickisstdin: but you live and learn so it's not all lost i learned pretty good lesson07:18
dasickisstdin: what happend with him?07:19
dasickisstdin: happened*07:19
stdindasickis: pulled the power, and this heppend: http://pastebin.ca/38457607:19
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:19
stdindasickis: lots of files got screwed07:20
dasickisstdin: wow, yeah I lost a lot of stuff as well but I think I can recover them somehow I just need to buy another harddrive sorta blows07:20
mardianyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?07:21
rayluguarddog disabled all protocols by default...07:21
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stdindasickis: yeah, I lost some data when mine went, as the disks got warped and I didn't want to spend thousands on data recovery, but I keep good backups, so it wasn't too bad07:22
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Lamingtonhey folks07:23
dasickisstdin: yeah next comp I build will use RAID 0+107:23
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LamingtonI got someone here who wants to put Linux on a machine with only 64meg of ram07:23
Lamingtonany suggestions ?07:23
dasickisstdin: and I'll invest in an external for critical data07:23
rayluLamington, xfce, of course07:23
Lamingtonxfce in 64meg ?07:24
Lamingtonu sure ?07:24
stdinLamington: xubuntu maybe07:24
rayluIf i can run servers on WinME on 64MB of RAM, it better work :D07:24
Lamingtonxubuntu needs 128meg07:24
rayluoh...guess not...07:24
dasickisuse DSL07:24
dasickisor slax07:24
Lamingtonslax... hmmm07:24
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me2win_dont even need xfce, just use CLI07:25
stdinLamington: 64MB isn't going to be able to do much nowadays07:25
dasickisis used with DSL07:25
Lamingtonstdin: yes I know07:25
rayluTo run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.07:26
raylu(from the xubuntu website)07:26
Lamingtonaww man07:26
Lamingtonyou need 96meg of ram to run Slax with Fluxbox07:27
alberthmm my hidden files aren't shown in the navigation-area of the konqueror07:27
dasickisLamington: what's wrong with DSL?07:27
stdin64MB would be ok for a text only server, but for any GUI desktop, you'll probably need more07:27
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rayluactually...you'd be surprised how far 64MB takes you....07:28
dasickisLamington: you could try installing ubuntu alternate cd and then install fluxbox on top of that07:29
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dasickisor or use twm07:30
dasickistab window manager07:30
mardianyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?07:32
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rayluwhere are the log files for guarddog/iptables?07:33
PerunaHow can I add/remove driver icons on Desktop ?07:34
stdinraylu: in syslog07:34
rayluum...where's that?07:34
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rayluPeruna, mounted drives or drivers?07:34
Perunamounted ones07:34
stdinraylu: /var/log/syslog07:35
adydas_Is there a search function simlar to windows search that i can use to search a folder for files? and folders?07:35
rayluPeruna, right-click > new > shortcut, I believe07:35
rayluadydas_, it's in the KMenu07:35
adydas_i must pass it so many times a day07:35
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Perunarayla: oh lol thnx07:36
Perunarayla: how about removing ? I have usbdisk and hda1 and would like to remove them ( Delete doesnt work, gives error)07:37
milardovichsomebody who uses python with apache??07:37
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raylu!question | milardovich07:39
ubotumilardovich: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:39
rayluPeruna, you could either safely remove...or tell me what error07:39
raylu(safely remove basically means unmount)07:39
milardovichok, i cant install python module on my apache on my kubuntu edgy eft07:39
rayluwhat have you done so far?07:40
saw2434I believe I successfully installed kubuntu on my external hard drive, but when I select to boot from the "usb device" my computer doesn't do anything.07:40
saw2434Can anyone help?07:40
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Perunaraylu: hda1 can't be unmounted ( no idea why not) and can't be deleted either07:40
me2win_saw2434: make sure the usb port you are using in on the motherboard07:41
me2win_saw2434: not PCI and not in the front07:41
rayluPeruna, do you want to remove it from your desktop or unmount it07:41
saw2434me2win: So I assume in the back would suffice?07:41
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Perunaremove from desktop07:42
me2win_saw2434: yeah, as long as it isnt in a PCI one07:42
intelikeyit's taking ages/eons/eternities... to remove all these packages...07:42
rayluPeruna, darn :(. I never actually understood what the icon on the desktop meant07:42
rayluand I've never worked up the courage for sudo rm07:42
intelikeywell several minutes then.07:42
saw2434me2win: the first time I tried, the screen went black and did some weird thinkgs, then it eventually booted into windows07:42
saw2434the second time i tried the screen just went black with a white curser blinking in the top left hand corner07:43
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saw2434me2win: I read somewhere that changing the boot order to have the usb device boot before the main hd would work...but isn't that if I primarily want to use kubuntu?07:44
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raylusaw2434, it seems like it already is prioritizing the usb device before the hd07:45
rayluthe problem seems to be with the install on the hd07:45
intelikeysaw2434 grub can be set to default to any os and can display a menu of the installed/bootable os's07:45
saw2434raylu: well i still have to select the external from the boot menu07:45
intelikeyso can lilo.07:45
raylusaw2434, oh...then yes, you're correct07:45
raylueither way, I wouldn't worry about it until the install on your usb drive worked07:46
rayluintelikey, do you prefer lilo or grub?07:46
saw2434intelikey: I know I installed the grub to /dev/sdb1...could that be the problem? sdb was my external hard drive07:46
raylu(and why does ubotu recommend grub)07:46
intelikeyraylu i am forced to use lilo.  grub is too weak to boot partitionless disks.07:47
rayluintelikey, in that case, do you happen to know where I could configure grub?07:47
intelikeysaw2434 yes you should not install to a partition if you intend it to be the primary boot loader.07:48
intelikeyraylu yes.  /boot/grub/menu.lst      also /boot/grub/devices.list   i think that's the name...07:48
saw2434intelikey: so I should install it to my hda? how will that work if I want to dual boot with windows?07:49
intelikeysaw2434 it will let you choose windows or linux.  that's what a boot loader does.07:49
rayluintelikey, oh, I was hoping for a gui config like there was in suse/yast...i'll have a look07:49
intelikeyboot loaders facilitate a means for choosing what os you wish to "boot" .07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comtroller - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
intelikeyraylu yeah.  i think there is.  in kcontrol maybe  not sure.07:50
intelikeyraylu a pointy clicky thingy... ^07:51
LL_Hakaisouis there any way to use my corded XBox 360 controller inside Kubuntu?07:51
intelikeyas i said i'm not sure.07:51
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intelikeyLL_Hakaisou i'm sure there is.   but don't get me started lying about howto.  it's really not my turn...07:52
saw2434thanks intelikey07:52
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LL_Hakaisoui actually have found a howto for it07:53
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intelikeyjust camping out in cyber space, chillin' wif my homeys...  digin' on the scens and grovin' to .ogg files07:54
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intelikeyNO. I AM NOT A HIPPY !07:55
LL_Hakaisouand now for my current project07:55
LL_Hakaisouinstalling moto4lin07:55
ubotumoto4lin: file manager and seem editor for Motorola phones (like C380/C650). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3+cvs20050925-2 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 472 kB07:55
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intelikeyi just ran like this command as root... is that a bad thing ?07:56
intelikeyfor Q in $(dpkg -l | grep '^ii ' | cut -d ' ' -f3 )07:56
intelikey    do apt-get remove --purge -y $Q07:56
intelikeysure is a lot of disk activity.07:57
mardianyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?07:57
LL_Hakaisou*raises blast shield*07:57
intelikeyi'm given' er' all she's got cappin'07:58
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:58
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intelikeyah man there went xorg07:58
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rayluintelikey, I don't see the gui-ed grub config...lots of fun stuff to play with though :D07:59
LL_Hakaisoureboot wiht F8 in safe mode intelikey07:59
intelikeyjust wait until it tries to remove dpkg    lol07:59
VanessaEand I thought I was a masochist for running feisty this soon :)08:00
intelikeyno i really ran that command.  i'm uninstalling all packages that can be uninstalled by apt without  "Yes, I know this is a bad idea, now do as i say!"08:00
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intelikeyraylu hmmm there may not be one.    obviously i can't check right now...08:01
rayluyeah, it's fine; thanks08:02
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intelikeymy system was getting too personal for me...    like there was nothing left to configure in the box and i had started reconfiguring the user....  can't have that....08:03
me2win_get gentoo08:03
intelikeyyeah i had it installed and configured too08:04
intelikeyoh you mean the distro.  :)08:04
LL_Hakaisounow, i don't mind how linux installations work anymore08:04
rayluwoo hoo.08:04
raylulet's hope I didn't screw up my grubloader :D08:04
intelikeyme2win_ dialup prevents such extensive downloading...08:04
LL_Hakaisoubut jesus christ i hate it when i'm fucking with the configure>make>make install format and i find an apt-get entry for the proggy i'm working with08:05
intelikeyyeah don't that make you blow beans ...08:05
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LL_Hakaisoumeh, whatever08:06
LL_HakaisouI also wish i had a log of programs i have installed on my system08:06
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intelikeydpkg -l > installed.log08:06
Admiral_ChicagoLL_Hakaisou: there is a way to do it08:07
LL_Hakaisouhey, that would be nifty08:08
me2win_intelikey: most people like gentoo because it is so customizable, or at least that they can compile with so many options08:08
deathnotehi, can kubuntu be installed from a USB CD-rom drive?08:08
intelikeyme2win_ but most of those people are not restricted to dialup.08:08
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intelikeydeathnote if you can boot it you can install from it.08:09
LL_Hakaisouif your BIOS supports booting from USB devices and is configured as such, i don't see why not08:09
Joshooahow do I register with freenode to get my nick saved?08:09
Admiral_Chicagodang can't find it.08:09
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:09
Admiral_ChicagoLL_Hakaisou: man apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg08:09
intelikeydpkg -l > installed.log08:10
Joshooaoh wait I think I got it, extra e on nickserv08:10
MoltovEllo, Ive got a little bit of a wireless setup issue... i have a wua 2340 dlink usb wireless card, and while, i got it to install, whenever it starts trying to use it... kubuntu just... freezes...08:10
rayluJoshooa, use /ns08:10
rayluinstead of /msg nickserv08:10
deathnoteintelikey: i can boot from it..but i can't install08:10
JoshooaI did /msg nickserve, whoops08:10
MoltovIt blinks tho! Heh...08:10
rayluMoltov, they say that the latest kernel has issues with wireless connectivity... (though I don't notice a difference)08:10
intelikeyraylu /ns would be an irc client alias.    'client specific'08:10
rayluJoshooa, yeah, I was doing that when I first used IRC a ton08:11
deathnoteintelikey: if i use the text-base, it says no comon cd-rom drive was detected.. for graphical it says couldn't find /root something08:11
rayluyeah, but every client I've ever used has had it08:11
Joshooa/ns nickserv08:11
Joshooanot me08:11
MoltovInteresting, ive experianced the exact opposite... And found one person on the forums who experianced simular, if im not mistaken, the post was pre-6.10 being released.08:11
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rayluJoshooa, huh?08:11
deathnoteintelikey: what can i do?08:11
intelikeydeathnote ah you need support for the device in the booted kernel initrd pair.08:11
Joshooawell wouldn't typing /ns not put it in the room then?08:11
rayluMoltov, are you using the wlan assistant?08:11
rayluJoshooa, neither /msg nor /ns puts it in the room. /msg nickserv = /ns08:12
deathnoteintelikey: do u mean downloading the modules for the cdrom?08:12
rayluchatting to the room is /msg #kubuntu [message] 08:12
MoltovRaylu; Good question... ^.^' i... have no clue, all the directions i followed were imputed through console.08:12
deathnoteintelikey: where can i get more info about this?08:12
rayluMoltov, oh...I was about to suggest you stop using the wlan assitant and start using the console....heh08:12
Joshooaif I type /ns it put it in the room though, msg works08:12
Joshooa/ns nickserv08:13
intelikeydeathnote no.  i mean the initrd.img on the cd is not detecting/setting.up the device.   i'm sure there is a way.08:13
Joshooabut the help isn't doing anything for me08:13
rayluJoshooa, er...what client are you using?08:13
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MoltovRaylu; Yeah... Oh right, yeah, i tried wlan assistant, it ignores the card exists...08:13
rayluhm... :( ok, so have you gotten yourself registered yet?08:13
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MoltovRaylu; it does however note to be installed and connected according to ndiswrapper08:13
intelikeydeathnote maybe passing root=/dev/sda  to the kernel at boot or something.08:13
LL_Hakaisouif only i could get this damn phone to pass through to vmware...08:13
JoshooaI got a message window open08:13
rayluMoltov, what does ifconfig show? is your card listed there?08:13
rayluJoshooa, /msg nickserv help register08:14
MoltovRaylu; una momento hehe08:14
intelikeydeathnote did you read through the help screens on the boot disk at the boot prompt ?08:14
deathnoteintelikey: if i boot in graphical, it will turn out to be at "BusyBox" and a command prompt08:14
Joshooait just puts it in my window with him, of me talking08:14
rayluoh, if you're in a query window already08:14
raylujust type help register to him08:15
rayluit should say something like [01:14:29]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>08:15
Joshooajust text08:15
intelikeydeathnote yes that's because it's not mounting /08:15
rayluyeah...of course it's just text...08:15
Joshooano, I mean it shows exactly what I type08:15
Joshooano response08:15
rayluhave you tried sending it just "help register"08:15
deathnoteintelikey: yeah there's a Other Options if i press F608:15
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Joshooaeven if I do /msg nickserv help register, only help register appears08:16
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rayluJoshooa, try: /query nickserv help register08:16
deathnoteintelikey: and i see this08:16
Joshooahelp register appears08:16
rayluJoshooa, perhaps you should try Konversation :D08:16
intelikeydeathnote i've been there.  but as for just walking you through what to do...  hmmm     mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda  ;modprobe <the right drivers>  mount /dev/sda /root and exit....08:16
JoshooaHow can I be sure that when I reboot my internet will work?08:17
deathnoteintelikey: file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quyiet splash --08:17
JoshooaCause I don't think I've rebooted since I got it working, and it's a pain to make it work08:17
intelikeyfinding the right drivers may be the twist in the pigs tail there.08:17
stdinintelikey: s/mknode/mknod/"08:17
rayluJoshooa, in the system settings > network, you can specify a device to be loaded on startup in its properties08:17
JoshooaBut I think when I reboot, it wont show my network card08:17
intelikeystdin yes.   typo king still reigns08:17
Joshooait reverts back to saying my wired connected aren't configured08:17
intelikeysee ^08:18
MoltovRaylu; *chuckles* this will take another few min, i had it rebooting when i came in here, and lol, appernetly i sucseeded in configuring it right to automaticaly turn on during boot... Which freezes it, of course.08:18
JoshooaI have to then do something to add my wireless card, then dhclient to make it even see it, and then I forgot what but I saved my last konsole thing in a text file08:18
rayluhaha. that reminds me of when I told apache to run on startup on my 266mhz,64MB ram winME machine...08:18
rayluJoshooa, if you're sure those steps are necessary, you could add them to the startup script08:19
MoltovRaylu; Well, this baby is a bit faster than that... 800mhz p3 with half a gig of ram...08:19
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intelikeydid i loose contact when that package left me ?08:19
deathnoteintelikey: do u mean during the installation i get into the shell and type that command?08:19
intelikeyah guess not.08:19
MoltovRaylu; And by baby, i mean frankinstines baby...08:19
josh__whoops, I re-entered the room08:19
intelikeydeathnote no at the bustbox prompt.08:19
deathnoteohh ok i'll get into it first..brb08:20
Joshooaman it's  alot harder to talk in Konverstation :)08:20
intelikeyto get into the cd system08:20
rayluJoshooa, it is?08:20
JoshooaTo do the /msg #kubuntu thing yeah, I got an error08:20
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intelikeydeathnote warning i'm expecting one of these packages to clip my wings....08:20
intelikeyso if i disappear don't take it personal08:20
MoltovRaylu; Ah joy... one more reboot and a config-removal and ill be able to tell you heh...08:20
Joshooabut nickserv works in it08:21
Joshooaso, brb08:21
rayluer...you don't have to /msg #kubuntu...08:21
rayluthat's just what's going on behind the scenes08:21
Joshooait gave me an error though when I said oops08:21
rayluyou can just type :D08:21
Joshooaok well brb08:21
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deathnoteintelikey: sorry... modprobe <right drivers> what are the right drivers for a usb cdrom??08:22
intelikeydeathnote let me look....08:22
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LL_Hakaisoui wonder how much wine pisses of microsoft...08:23
LL_Hakaisoujust a thought08:23
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intelikeydeathnote usbcore08:24
intelikeydeathnote usb-storage08:24
deathnotemknode b 8 0 /dev/sda doesn't work hmmm08:25
slylyiasI have somehow managed to have my external HD (usb, ntfs) owned by 'root' when I "sudo chown <username> EXTERNAL" it says "Chown: changing ownership of external/ read only file system...08:25
slylyiasand then does nothing08:25
slylyiasCan anyone help me?08:25
rayluLL_Hakaisou, not much. think about how much they actually lose from it08:25
deathnoteso its mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda ; modprobe usb-storage08:25
slylyiasStill shows up as owned by root08:25
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LL_Hakaisoui'm not upgrading to Vista cause of it08:25
rayluslylyias, remount?08:25
intelikeydeathnote sd_mod08:25
LL_Hakaisouthere's 400 bucks they don't get08:25
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rayluslylyias, umount /dev/hdwhatever, mount /dev/hdwhatever08:26
intelikeydeathnote scsi_mod08:26
slylyiasraylu: How do I know what device it is?08:26
stdindeathnote: mknod, not mknode08:26
rayluLL_Hakaisou, actually, most people won't be "upgrading" to vista at all. they'll buy computers with vista pre-installed08:26
intelikeydeathnote sr_mod08:26
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intelikeydeathnote i think that's all.08:26
rayluslylyias, it'll be listed under /media08:26
raylu!hi | sredna08:26
ubotusredna: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:26
deathnotesr_mod b 8 0 /dev/sda ?08:26
slylyiasI don't see it there, raylu.08:26
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srednathe startkde script in feisty appears not to run ~/.kde/env/*.sh like it should ?08:27
intelikeythe only thing that has    b 8 0 /dev/sda    is mknod08:27
LL_Hakaisouthat still counts as a sold copy of vista buddy08:27
rayluslylyias, actually...since it's owned by root, you might need to kdesu konquerer08:27
LL_Hakaisouthey buyer still pays for it08:27
intelikeydeathnote mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda08:27
LL_Hakaisouit's just pre installed08:27
intelikeythen all the modprobe lines08:27
stdinsredna: feisty questions in #kubuntu-devel and #kubutnu+1 please08:27
slylyiaskdesu konqerur, huh?08:27
intelikeythen see if you can mount /dev/sda /root08:27
rayluLL_Hakaisou, right, but it's cheaper technically. ms makes more money on upgrades08:27
rayluslylyias, yes, alt+f2, kdesu konqueror08:28
srednasorry, stdin08:28
deathnotethere's no /dev/sda08:28
deathnotesda = cdrom?08:28
stdinsredna: :)08:28
intelikeyyou mknode that08:28
pirothezeroif i need to execute a ./executable every 6 hours what would be the best way of obtaining that? bash script?08:28
intelikeyyes it should08:28
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm08:28
|Cugel|piro: cron08:28
stdinpirothezero: cron08:28
MoltovRaylu; gyeh, cant find the modprobe config i accidentaly made doing ndiswrapper -m... >.<08:28
pirothezerofor some reason my sabnzbd randomly closes and I want to stop that08:28
pirothezeroahh ok08:28
rayluMoltov, you just went over my head :P08:28
|Cugel|I've never used cron myself but I know it works.08:29
deathnotewhen i type mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda it keeps coming out the help thing08:29
raylupirothezero, perhaps the answer is to stop it from "randomly" closing08:29
deathnotei modprobe usbcore and usb-storage08:29
stdinpirothezero: you can use kcron to do it in a GUI08:29
pirothezeroi agree with that but there are no reports of it happening to other people08:29
pirothezeroand the logs dont say anything08:29
MoltovRaylu; its WAY over my head techicaly, but realy its just a little line of code added to some stupid little config file... or such somewhere.08:29
intelikeywhen it's driver is inserted into the kernel   the system should recognize sda as your cdrom drive         deathnote   no e on mknod08:29
intelikeymknod b 8 0 /dev/sda08:30
MoltovRaylu; its making it automaticaly try turning on a configuration of the divice... Which, of course, givin my situation, crashes the computer.08:30
LL_Hakaisoueither way, it's money that M$ doesn't get08:30
stdinintelikey, deathnote: mknod /dev/sda b 8 008:30
deathnoteops its mknod08:30
deathnotei paste it wrongly here08:30
rayluMoltov, is it listed in kmenu > system settings > network settings?08:30
pirothezero~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/.SABnzbd.py -d -f SABnzbd.ini I just put this for program?08:30
intelikeystdin did i have the syntax backwards.... ?   eeeek  has been a while hasn't it.08:31
deathnoteok modprobe usbcore usb-storage sd_mod sr_mod scsi_mod08:31
intelikeyman mknod08:31
intelikeybash: /usr/bin/man: No such file or directory08:31
stdinintelikey: heh, just checked mknod --help, and it says "Usage: mknod [OPTION] ... NAME TYPE [MAJOR MINOR] "08:31
intelikeyi can't check.08:31
deathnotemknod b 8 0 /dev/sda (it comes out the help)08:31
MoltovRaylu; <.< The setting? prehaps... The card? No, atm connecting it to the computer causes insta freeze >.<08:31
intelikeythen yep.08:31
rayluMoltov, oh...it's not connected? :(08:32
stdindeathnote: use "mknod /dev/sda b 8 0" not "mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda"08:32
intelikeydeathnote did you see what stdin said.  said i gave the wrong syntax.    mknod /dev/sda b 8 008:32
intelikeythe device name perceeds the specifics...  my bad.08:32
deathnoteok! it works08:33
intelikeystdin would you care to take over that one ?08:33
deathnotemounting now08:33
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LL_Hakaisouok then.08:33
LL_Hakaisoulinux can see my motorola Q08:33
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deathnotemounting failed.. no such device or address08:33
deathnotebut in /dev there is a sda now08:33
LL_Hakaisounow all i need to figure out is out to access it08:34
intelikeydeathnote still need a driver.08:34
stdinintelikey: not so much, I don't really know how to help much here08:34
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intelikeystdin can you find out what drivers are needed to mount usb cdrom device ?08:34
JoshooaSo, I guess I got it registered, I don't know, it didn't ask for a PW when I logged in just now08:34
slylyiasOkay, no one seems to be able to help me with my mismounted external HD. :(08:35
intelikeydeathnote you can use modprobe -l     to list the avalable drivers and start testing anything that looks usb'ish08:35
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JoshooaNow listening to:smallville.s01e17.Reaper.ws.ac3.dvdrip.xvid-vf.avi08:36
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slylyiasPlease, I'm begging, can someone help me?08:36
intelikeydeathnote also  shift+pgup will let you scroll up text that went by too quick to see.08:36
deathnoteetci-hcd ?08:37
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deathnoteafter loading modprobe XXX do i need to mknod XXX again?08:38
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MoltovRaylu; Ok, got rid of that stupid line heh, just took me a while to find the right config file...08:40
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MoltovRaylu; So, now... What was that command you wanted me to run ^.^" or did you vanish...08:40
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stdinintelikey: should be cdrom, ide-cd, sr_mod, scsi_mod, usbcore and usb-storage (all I can find)08:41
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deathnoteok i loaded a few more modules..08:42
deathnotehow to remove /dev/sda and mknod again ?08:42
deathnoteor does it just takes effect?08:42
Joshooaslylyias: I doubt it but I can try, what's going on?08:42
MoltovRaylu; *chuckles* Martian Third Strike Force to Raylu?08:42
stdindeathnote: it should just work08:42
deathnotehmm still can't mount.. anyway08:43
deathnotei'm using a usb cdrom08:43
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MoltovWell... Anyone elce adventurous enough to see if they can help with my odd wireless issue>\?08:45
deathnotei can't lsusb ..08:45
JoshooaMoltov: I'm adventurous08:45
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MoltovJoshooa; Got any clue? According to ndiswrapper, its installed, and connected... From there, the direcotions i had found, the next step to configure the wireless connection, causes the computer to... erm, freeze, totaly.08:46
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JoshooaMoltov: What kind of wireless card do you have?08:47
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JoshooaMoltov: And what directions did you find, could I see them online?08:47
MoltovJoshooa; Dlink wua 234008:47
MoltovJoshooa; easily, theyre on the ubuntu forums, gimme a sec to grab em08:47
JoshooaMoltov: BRB, I'm going to need a mountain dew for this08:47
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MoltovJoshooa; Heh... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364014 I wish i had a Siera mist or such myself... *sighs* too many things going wrong at once08:48
dasickishey i upgraded to feisty but for some reason it didn't update my menu.lst08:49
dasickissince I customized since I dual with Vista08:49
MoltovJoshooa; If your wondering, this is my old junkpile trying to connect to my newer junkpiles network card... Stupid laptop decided to shatter a fan berring...08:49
MoltovJoshooa; <.< And i dont even want to think of how hot it runs normaly, much less short a fan...08:50
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JoshooaMoltov: Yeah totally, so, you're on this comp and trying to fix another comps wireless card then?08:50
MoltovMoltov; oh, the comp im on atm talking to you is my dads ^.^ its working perfectly08:51
MoltovJoshooa; <,< hehe08:51
MoltovJoshooa; ^.^ Three computers involved in this dance...08:51
MoltovJoshooa; Only one were concerned with... But lol.08:52
JoshooaMoltov: So you can't configure your wireless card or your Grub boot thing is messed up?08:52
JoshooaOh wait I see hol don08:52
MoltovJoshooa; Wireless card tries to turn on = frozen computer.08:52
Joshooa ;-)08:52
MoltovJoshooa; Old junkpile im doing that on... is well, it WAS my slave, but it got promoted to backup...08:53
Moltovndiswrapper -m08:54
Moltovmodprobe ndiswrapper08:54
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MoltovJoshooa; are the steps that causes freeze08:54
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MoltovJoshooa; and that, good sir, is where my knowlege ends... Though i do now nicely know how to undo nidswrapper -m.08:56
JoshooaMoltov: Awesome!08:56
MoltovJoshooa; Well, it doesnt help... Cus its still not online, but its booted, and hence why i returned to find the guy i was getitng help from, gone08:57
MoltovJoshooa; ^.^' that erm, config causes it to crash half way through loading kubuntu...08:57
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MoltovJoshooa; being that, it tries to acitvate the card...08:58
MoltovJoshooa; the question is, you have any idea whats causing it to actualy crash in the first place, or how to find out ^.^"08:58
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MoltovJoshooa; only reason i got this far, is my old dos 5/6 smarts... Config files are editible by hand... yeup yeup yeup >.>08:59
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MoltovJoshooa; so i take it your thinking/referancing ^.^09:00
JoshooaMoltov: Yes and I was talking to my brother09:00
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JoshooaMoltov: and when you do ndiswrapper -l, does it show driver installed, hardware present, or no?09:02
ubuntuCan anyone help me with a grub 21 error?09:02
MoltovJoshooa; both yes.09:02
JoshooaMoltov: Then you do ndiswrapper -m and modprobe ndiswrapper, and it freezes then or after the reboot?09:04
MoltovJoshooa; Zi moment it starts talking to the card... as in about 3-5 seconds latter, and if card is plugged in, on reboot too about halfway through kubuntus loading.09:04
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JoshooaMoltov: Maybe you have to manually add it to /etc/modules09:07
me2win_err my bad09:09
MoltovJoshooa; ok, so, where and what do i type there? ^.^"09:09
Hasrat_USA Beryl flies in Kubuntu Edgy :)09:09
Hasrat_USA it would take MS some more 30 years to come up with an idea as stable and eye-dazzling as beryl09:10
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JoshooaMoltov: Well....09:12
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JoshooaMoltov: Hold on I've done this09:12
MoltovJoshooa; ... ... ... ^.^ ive got about 3hrs to spare, so no worries.09:13
JoshooaMoltov: Also, you could try asking if anyone in #ndiswrapper could help too09:15
MoltovJoshooa; On this server?09:15
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MoltovJoshooa; yknow, your the first person to suggest that to me ever... sounds brilliant.09:17
nknwdhello all. i'm currently logged in with user X and running KDE. In a terminal, i've SU to use Y. Now, HOW do i run a graphical application as user Y in user X's KDE without getting an error about no screens found or something?09:17
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MoltovJoshooa; I think i can hear crickets chirping over there... heh09:18
unix_infidelnknwd: use kdesu and specify a user.09:19
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nknwdthanks unix_infidel09:21
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_4strOyop yop09:43
elijahhow will i install a new application in kubuntu?09:44
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_4strOelijah: use adept09:45
cpk1or aptitude09:45
cpk1or apt-get09:45
elijahthru konsole?09:45
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_4strOfor aptitude and apt-get yes09:46
AquaNuda...or Synaptic :)09:46
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TeePOGhi there, i'm using KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu. My medianotifier fails to mount my usb flashdrives. I am using the plugdev group with pam_groups; the other groups/devices (like audio) work fine, and CDs are mounted correctly, but USB flashdrives do not09:47
TeePOGthe medianotifier dialog pops up, but when I select "Open in New Window", nothing happens09:47
JoshooaOk, I'm considering doing a fresh install of Kubuntu, to remove Windows, should I partition my hard drive into boot, swap, then my linux, or not? I just read a site that said I should create a 100mb boot partition but it doesn't say why09:48
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cpk1TeePOG: I remember that used to happen to me, cant remember how it fixed itself though =P09:50
cpk1TeePOG: you should still be able to mount it manually09:51
TeePOGi am cpk1, but this is for a lab... it should happen automatically09:52
elijahthanks everyone09:53
cpk1for a lab?09:54
cpk1I remember there was something a long time ago with hal being broken but pretty sure it is all fixed now09:54
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cpk1if you add it to fstab it might be able to automount then09:54
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TeePOGbut that's the point, it should be unnecessary, plugdev group takes care of that09:55
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embrikI am not able to insert vide/music in Impress. I use Kubuntu dapper and oo2009:59
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ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands09:59
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ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 09:59
hw__or re-symlink to bash09:59
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TeePOGcpk1: it seems the problem is that HAL doesn't support FAT32 volumes10:01
hw__dpkg-reconfigure dash10:01
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TeePOGsomeone's idea of OSS10:01
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cpk1interesting, but usbsticks arent fat32 i dont think...10:03
JoshooaI'm pretty sure usbsticks are fat3210:03
JoshooaBecause I remember trying to make mine ntsf, when I was in windows, and couldn't10:04
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cpk1hmm mine is fat1610:05
JoshooaI'm not sure though10:05
Joshooahow do I check mine?10:05
cpk1fdisk -l10:05
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Joshooamine says W95 FAT3210:06
cpk1how big is yours?10:06
cpk1mines 1gB too10:06
Joshooashould fdisk list my hard drives too?10:06
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cpk1probably not, it will if you use sudo10:06
Joshooaoh ok10:07
JoshooaI was like, I swear I've seen them before10:07
JoshooaMan I can't wait until I know more about what i'm doing10:07
JoshooaSo not familiar with anything linux10:07
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Skullerhey guys...can someone tell me how i can check my IP in kubuntu?..i am connected using an adsl modem which requires a UN and PW to be entered in the OS in 'pppoeconf'10:09
SkullerIP add*ress10:09
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SkullerJoshooa: it is not wireless10:10
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SkullerJoshooa: cool...got it..thanks a lot10:10
JoshooaI feel good now10:11
Skullerjust had ur fav meal or something?...hehe10:11
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JoshooaI'm a noob, so I feel good knowing something10:12
JoshooaNot just totally and utterly lost and confused10:12
Joshooalike I was a week ago10:12
Skulleroh...lol...dw..i m still a bigger noob than u...so i am going to give you competetion in noobness...:P10:12
JoshooaI was expecting that my advice would be wrong and not helpful10:12
JoshooaNice,  how long have you used Kubunu?10:12
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Skullerabout 2 weeks....'use' as in just left it on for downloading torrents....not literally used it that much tho10:13
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MukiEXKubuntu stopped automounting =(10:14
MukiEXFor USB drives10:14
cpk1wow, two people in one night10:14
Skulleryea..must be the night10:14
JoshooaYeah i downloaded Ubuntu about a week ago, installed it, kinda fumbled around, got slightly familiar, then updated to Kubuntu and went through it all again.10:14
JoshooaThat's funny, cause I never did ANYTHING to get my USB automounting, it's my hda1 and hbb1 that didn't do it10:15
SkullerJoshooa: lol...same here...i used ubuntu for a weekend and got attracted to kubun for its flashiness10:15
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Skullerdoes anyone know what is the miniimum space taken up by a bare install of 'feisty' on the hdd?10:16
JoshooaSkuller: I was just told it was better, and wanted to check it out, when I first saw it I was like, yeah this is nice, flashier, and faster too, so I liked it, but then I felt totally lost and confused10:16
cpk1usb is on hda1 and hbb1? O.o10:16
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cpk1kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde instead10:16
Joshooacpk1: Yeah, but when I first read about it I was confused10:16
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Skulleryea...the K is good in terms of eye candy....not to mention it is awesome with beryl10:17
Joshooacpk1: Totally new to linux, so in my mind, that's just saying it has a different theme and layout10:17
Joshooacpk1: But a lot of programs I try to use now freeze10:17
Joshooacpk1: Anything with G = bad, and I was told they'd all run vice versa10:17
cpk1there shouldnt really be any difference unless you are low on memory10:17
JoshooaI have 640MB10:18
cpk1if you have low memory then you *might* run into trouble loading all the libraries10:18
cpk1then you should be fine10:18
Joshooauh o10:18
hw__How can I make sure that no program will open inside/within konq.? I've set "show files in separate viewer" in kcontrol...10:18
JoshooaI'm slowly getting kicked off Kopete, Yahoo died, and then AIM10:18
Skullerany idea how much does a bare install of kubun take?....edgy or feisty or both10:18
cpk1Skuller: pretty small if you are talking about not even getting X10:19
JoshooaI want to say 350MB, but for no reason other than I read it on a site, but it wasn't specific to a flavor10:19
Skullercpk1: ok...make that a 'normal user bare install'....including X?10:19
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cpk1Skuller: still pretty small if you get the barest for kde or even smaller if you dont kde10:20
cpk1but you will need to use the alternate installer probably10:20
Skullerohh....so if i will be downloading a lot of packages and have a feisty install (when it comes out ofcourse) i shudnt go more than 2-3gb for the / partitionn right?10:21
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Skulleri will be mounting /media and /home on another partition10:21
cpk1my / is 23gB and I am using 4.4gB of it10:21
Skulleris ur main 'files and data and documents' on it too?...like ur downloads + music and the works?10:22
cpk1its just /, /home is seperate10:22
Skullerohh...so i think i should keep at least 5 gb for / if i want to go a long way without a format10:23
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ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB10:24
Skullerwhere can i get help for kopete?10:24
Tm_TSkuller: What's the problem?10:25
Skulleri want to be able to save all my conversations automatically like in LIVE messenger....10:25
Tm_TSkuller: Activate history plugin.10:26
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Skuller Tm_T: it is activated....but i dont think it saves the history as a text file somewhere....does it?10:27
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cpk1Skuller: it does, its in ~/.kde/share/apps10:28
JoshooaSo, should Same GNOME the game work in Kubuntu?10:28
cpk1find kopete in there10:28
cpk1Joshooa: huh?10:28
Joshooacpk1:  When I was still in Ubuntu, I was told if I go to Kubuntu, everything will still work10:29
cpk1Joshooa: yes, it will10:29
Joshooacpk1:  They don't10:29
Joshooacpk1: I just get grey boxes10:29
cpk1what doesnt work?10:29
JoshooaSame GNOME10:29
Joshooaor anything G10:30
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JoshooaRobots wont work either10:30
Joshooaor Nibbles, and I know that worked cause I played it10:30
JoshooaThey load but they are just blank grey screens10:32
Joshooathen to close them I have to terminate them10:32
cpk1you mean gnurobots?10:33
JoshooaNo it's just called Robots10:33
JoshooaGParted works though, interesting....10:34
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cpk1hmm well I cant seem to find robots in the repos so i dunno what to say10:35
naught101anyone succesfully installed JahShaka video editing suite on kubuntu?10:35
caris_mereKpilot says it is "Unable to read system information from Pilot", any ideas?10:37
korielI have a folder of text files and I have left a character in one of them that I want to find it..how can I do this using grep ... for example if I want to find tha character L but L alone not Lucky for example10:37
Joshooait's under games > arcade10:37
JoshooaOn my K Menu10:37
korieloops wrong channel :)10:37
cpk1koriel: try quotes? =P10:38
hw__How can I make sure that no program will open inside/within konq.? I've set "show files in separate viewer" in kcontrol...10:39
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Joshooashould I be connecting via irc.freenode.net or  chat.us.freenode.net10:47
Joshooaor does it not matter?10:47
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abhishekparolkarUnexpected response from server10:52
MoltovAnyone arround who has a clue where to toss something you need to run oh, around the end of kubuntu starting up?10:53
abhishekparolkarFirefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server.10:53
MoltovWell, Dhcp wont automaticaly start up in the wlan config script right... but it works fine through the command dhclient wlan0, so, those of us hanging over at ndiswrapper10:54
Moltov#ndiswrapper figured i should just tell it to run that on start ^.^10:54
Moltov<.< but heh, cant find where to tell it to do that in kubuntu...10:55
cpk1Moltov: put it in /etc/rc.local10:55
SlackRatrunning ndiswrapper via init scripts at startup .....10:56
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MoltovCpk1:Thankee... ^.^ i take it the full bit would be "gksu dhclient wlan0" per the suggestion from the person over there?10:56
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MoltovOr is less than that needed thanks to something nifty?10:57
cpk1Moltov: no, you just need to put dhclient wlan0 at the end of it10:57
intelikeyhmmm odd error.  modem /dev/ttyS0 reports device busy can't dialup.   but nothing is using it... what might cause that ?10:58
Joshooais it safe to just unplug m y usbstick or should I unmount it first?10:58
ChousukeJoshooa: unmount first10:58
JoshooaChousuke: What happens if I don't?10:58
intelikeyJoshooa what fs is on it ?10:59
Chousukewell, you might get file corruption.10:59
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Chousukeotoh you probably won't.10:59
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Chousukebut it's possible10:59
Chousukeso unmount first10:59
intelikeyif it's ext# you most likely will get fs errors.10:59
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JoshooaWe;ll like in Windows I'd just make sure it's light wasn't flashing, and unplug it10:59
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Joshooait's fat3211:00
intelikeyif it's vfat then it probably wont hurt it.11:00
ChousukeJoshooa: that's not the proper way on windows either :/11:00
Chousukeintelikey: it definitely will if it's being used.11:00
Joshooayeah but you don't mount it in windows either11:00
MoltovChousuke: Hardly ever causes an issue tho.11:00
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intelikeybut linux will cry if you remove it while it's mounted.11:00
Joshooaas long as it's not being read or written to, no problem11:00
ChousukeJoshooa: it's "mounted" automatically11:00
JoshooaI was worried that it would be remounted over and over though if I don't specify that I am removing it11:01
Moltov*sighs* Why cant they just remember to support hotswap in these flash drives these days...11:01
intelikeyChousuke you mean if there is disk activity.   yes if there is a write in progress  no matter what fs it is it's borked.11:01
Joshooacause then I wouldn't have stuff to talk about11:01
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Chousukethere might be some cache stuff too that might cause trouble11:01
MoltovI mean, my WIRELESS card, has hotswap, i have no damn idea why, but it does.11:01
Chousukewrites to disk don't happen instantly.11:02
intelikeydo if it's mounted with  option   sync11:02
MoltovChousuke: Yes, but why would you stupidly remove it while your writing file bar was still on the screan.11:02
Chousukeintelikey: which is usually not the case.11:02
ChousukeMoltov: the write may not be complete even after it says it's complete.11:03
intelikeyis if i mount removable + writable media...11:03
cpk1if you use console you might not realize you have gotten a carriage return from a cp or mv before you take it out =P11:03
MoltovChousuke: For more than a fraction of a second maybe... otherwise thatd be incredibly stupid.11:03
Chousukestill, you should unmount properly.11:04
MoltovOr remember to pay attention to get a hotswap usb flash ^.^11:04
intelikeycpk1 in console the prompt will return before the disk write in some cases  and that's true for gui also.11:04
intelikeynote.   'some cases'11:04
JoshooaThat's why if the blue light is flashing on my usb key, I don't touch it11:05
cpk1intelikey: thats what I saying though, you might notice that you got a carriage return =P also & would probably free it11:05
intelikeyso why would ttyS0 be reporting busy ?11:05
ChousukeI think there was a kernel patch that did something to allow unplugging without unmounting11:05
JoshooaNo blue flashing, no activity, should be safe11:05
cpk1might not*11:05
ChousukeI think it may have monitored the media and determined whether it was unplugged safely.11:06
intelikeyumount is safe.11:06
Chousukeumount is, but directly unplugging isn't.11:06
intelikeyeject it  :)11:06
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Chousukewhich is the same as unmounting :P11:06
intelikeyfor Q in /etc/hd? /etc/sd? ;do eject $Q && echo "that was $Q" ;done11:07
Moltovcpk1: writing it to the file you specified, didnt help.11:08
Joshooaman this sucks, I have to sort through 100GB of stuff, see what I want to save, and then burn it to DVDs so I can format my hard drives and reinstall stuff11:08
Moltovcpk1: it didnt run it... at the right moment atleast11:08
intelikeyhowto find the cdrom device ^  :)  and make the usb-stick safe all at the same time....11:08
cpk1Moltov: hrmm you shouldnt even need to run dhclient for something since if it is set to auto in the interfaces file it shold already do that11:09
intelikeysecond half of that statement is a joke you know.11:09
intelikey<intelikey> so why would ttyS0 be reporting busy ?  <<< if nothing is using it ?11:10
MoltovCpk1: Yeah, we noted that.. Its a bit odd.11:10
intelikeyi was thinking missing module,   but chroot into another installation and in there it's not busy/works  so that's not it.11:11
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MoltovCpk1: But atleast the first time we ran through it over there, that made the internet connect...11:11
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MoltovThat was strange, ndiswrapper didnt start up automaticaly this time... i had to modprobe it on...11:14
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MoltovBut... ive used sudo ndiswrapper -m... which... when run again confirmed it... ... ...11:15
cpk1haha well that is probably why it didnt work =P11:16
Moltov*hits head aginst wall* Why must 802.11g cards hate me.11:16
cpk1Moltov: does 'cat /etc/modules/' have ndiswrapper in it?11:17
MoltovWhy... didnt it... GAAAAH11:17
cpk1pretty sure that it should have ndiswrapper in there at least11:18
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intelikeywhat am i doing, not holding my mouth right or what ?11:19
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  fuser /dev/ttyS011:19
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  wvdial11:19
intelikey--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.5511:19
intelikey--> Cannot open ./dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy11:19
cpk1intelikey: I would try to help but I think it is a bit over my head =\11:19
intelikeyi just don't understand why that device is busy unless i chroot then it's free  and nothing is using it...11:20
JoshooaMoltov: How're things working out for ya?11:20
MoltovCpk1: its... quite empty, i mean, a few notes... and like, 2 letters11:21
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cpk1Moltov: ok well I *think* ndiswrapper needs to be in there if you want it to start11:22
cpk1on boot11:22
Moltovassuming you mean /etc/moduels of course, since theres no such folder :P11:22
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MoltovCPk1;Hmmm, well, i can put it in there...11:23
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cpk1well my advice comes with absolutely no warranty, implied or explicit =)11:23
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Joshooais there a way to open html help files in Kubuntu?11:24
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MoltovDepends what you mean by open11:25
Moltovopen and edit? Kate if your used to the style... Open and view? Konquerer, duh...11:25
intelikeyquanta +11:26
JoshooaKonquerer and OpenOffice wont work11:27
Joshooaand now OpenOffice wont close11:27
SlackRata browser, konqueror is usually default11:27
cpk1konquerer can most certainly handle html11:28
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JoshooaI think they may be .nfo files in windows11:28
Joshooait most certainly did not handle this11:28
Joshooabut they are ebooks11:28
cpk1is it a .chm?11:28
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SlackRatinstall xchm11:29
cpk1or kchmviewer11:29
JoshooaI want these books too, since most of my linux books appear to be in this format11:29
SlackRatthats the format the official ubuntu book is zipped up in btw11:29
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MoltovCpk1: Ummm That DEFINATELY didnt work right. Now its not showing up under iwconfig even if i give the command to force it to run...11:29
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MoltovCpk1: Although ndiswrapper still notes it installed and connected correctly.11:30
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cpk1I made sure to educate myself this time around11:31
cpk1it does need to be in /etc/modules11:31
cpk1you used depmod before inserting it the first time right?11:32
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Moltovused what?... Excuse me, linux Noob here...11:33
cpk1before you inserted it did you do depmod -a?11:33
MoltovI didnt know to do anything of the sort...11:33
cpk1Moltov: right, so do sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper and then sudo depmod -a11:34
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MoltovCpk1: now what?11:39
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MoltovYou still there?11:42
MoltovWell, that cant be good...11:43
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JoshooaSo, I want to install LinEAK, should I get the tar.gz or deb files, or are the tar.gz files deb zipped up, or whats with that?11:44
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MoltovMeh. Depends...11:45
MoltovTar.gz are generaly source files in a compressed form.11:45
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MoltovThat said11:45
Moltovyou can quite often find much more up to date versions therin11:45
MoltovAnd hence compile them with makefile or such... and have better installs...11:47
MoltovJoshooa; funny, we keep helping each other...11:48
JoshooaIt's good, we're both learning, we can learn twice as fast this way, cause we have twice as many problems11:48
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MoltovJoshooa: I'd say, you got an im you like... but... I currently lack the ability to... log onto any of mine...11:48
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Joshooaan im?11:49
Joshooainstant messenger?11:49
Joshooawhat makes you say that?11:49
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MoltovCus, ^.^ knowing someone elce whos learning nix is A, helpfull B, something i dont have on my list11:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:51
MoltovC and D Why the heck not, and its not like i use mine for only people i know in person... id only ave like 4 on my list if i was one of those silly people11:51
JoshooaYeah, I agree, and I have you on my buddy list already too, but hopefully tomorrow I will be reformatting my computer to completely remove windows11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
MoltovE, i dont come on irc normaly...11:51
JoshooaJust fully got that sentence11:51
MoltovMy laptop has a preticular hatred for it.11:51
JoshooaI'll be on IRC all the time now, since I'm using Kopete11:52
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB11:52
MoltovGaim gives good aim/yim/msnim(and icq if your a uo player... not that anyone elce uses it)11:52
JoshooaI completely forgot about him11:52
zorglu_q. what is the ubotu tag for java6 ?11:52
MoltovI like it better than kopete11:52
JoshooaI used Gaim until I got up on Kubuntu11:53
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:53
MoltovIt has an installer through adept, that works fine.11:53
MoltovAdept, the package manager.11:53
MoltovIf its properly syncing to the net-repositories, it should have quite a bit decent stuf.11:53
JoshooaI don't think mine does that11:54
SlackRatbleh, install synaptic11:54
MoltovIt doesnt work right if you install just wrong... I did that last time.11:54
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Joshooayes I like Syntapic more11:56
SlackRatbeen around  a lot longer, and imo, its more intuitive and offers more options11:57
Skullerhey guys..my klipper is running but its icon is not in the system tray...i just rebooted my system n now it is not there....in terminal when i type 'klipper' it says its running...11:57
SlackRatwhat did you break now?11:57
MoltovWhatever Cpk1 had me do, made everything work LESS.11:57
MoltovBefore it worked with a little poking at it... Now it just doesnt work.11:58
Joshooaheh heh heh11:58
SlackRattry configure system try11:59
JoshooaDon't worry, I'm sure when I reboot I wont have network access either11:59
Skulleryay...i killed the process and started klipper again using the terminal...it is now there11:59
Skullerlaterz guys12:00
Moltov*hits his head aginst the wall* and unlike what was tried before12:00
Moltovi have NO idea how to undo what he had me do12:00
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Moltov*grumbles* this is why i like typing in my config file changes manualy...12:01
Skullerregarding moltov's problem...is there a 'System restore' or 'goback' equivalent in kubuntu?12:01
MoltovIf i had edited the files with kate, it auto backs up anything systemfilish it edits.12:01
MoltovBut as far as i know, otherwise, no.12:01
MoltovNot that doesnt require i used it first atleast.12:02
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MoltovWell, atleast i know the card works... even if it doesnt now... and didnt want to auto-start...12:03
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MoltovAnd ive saved what he told me to do... so if i can find someone... copitent, maybe they can tell me how to undo it.12:05
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JoshooaMe am copitent12:06
JoshooaAt least I hope I am competent12:07
Joshooato read what he made you to and undo it, maybe12:07
Joshooato pull commands out of my ass that my help, not so likely12:07
Moltovhe had me do "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper" and then "sudo depmod -a"12:07
Joshooaso you removed ndiswrapper from your modules12:08
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MoltovThat realy wouldnt explain what its doing tho.12:09
Joshooaand then checked for newer stuff12:09
Joshooaand wasn't it -A?12:09
Joshooanot -a12:09
MoltovGood question.12:09
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MoltovDont know what i ended up actualy typing.12:09
Moltovhe originaly said lowercase12:10
Moltov^.^ scrolled up a bit12:10
Joshooawell that's not even a command then12:11
Joshooado modprobe ndiswrapper12:11
Moltovdoesnt work.12:11
Joshooadoes it show under iwconfig?12:11
MoltovNope. unlike before.12:11
MoltovIll double double check... but pretty damn sure.12:11
Joshooawhat about ndiswrapper -l?12:12
Joshooadoes it show it installed?12:12
MoltovInstalled and connected, as always.12:12
MoltovFails to find device.12:13
Moltovi can get the exact error12:13
Moltovbut thats the gist of it12:13
Moltovcurrently speaking, there is no wlan012:13
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Moltovand modprobe ndiswrapper nolonger brings my wireless card up as it.12:13
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SlackRatwhat does ifconfig show?12:14
Moltov*checks having no clue what config thats checking*12:15
MoltovNothing, absolutely doenst do anything.12:15
SlackRatwill show youre devices for internet, wireless and non12:15
MoltovWell, i know my dlink wired lan card works fine... I usualy bridge from my laptop to my slave(now backup computer were messing with)12:16
Moltovits just useless being its a room and a half away from the router12:16
Joshooahow does ifconfig not do anything?12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
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Moltov... Im increasingly odded out here...12:19
MoltovAnd wish i hadnt listened to cpk1... nothing he told me to do worked... >.>12:20
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ekul`I'm kind of confused, is kubuntu completely seperate to ubuntu, or as I have ubutnu can i install kubuntu ontop and have the option of using KDE or Gnome?12:22
JoshooaI have a dilema12:22
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SlackRatekul, you can add kde to ubuntu12:22
SlackRatand xfce as well12:22
MoltovEkul': That is a bit of an odd sortout...12:22
JoshooaThat's how I got kubuntu12:22
Joshooahad ubuntu, used the terminal to get the kde extension, and here i am12:22
SlackRatme too, its more stable i think, if i build kubuntu on top of an ubuntu base12:22
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Moltov*chuckles* I actualy installed off the kubuntu install dvd...12:23
ekul`Ahh cool, whats the extentiont o download kde, if you got it there12:23
Joshooanot sure12:23
JoshooaI read it somewhee12:23
SlackRatsudo apt-get install kde-desktop?12:23
Moltovshould be12:23
ekul`Thanks :)12:23
SlackRatshould get you up and running and you can build on that12:23
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ekul`any complex setting up? (still very new to linux, so will it just give me an option at login?)12:24
MoltovSo any idea on my pesky situation slack?12:24
SlackRatno, you should be able to choose kde at boot time12:24
SlackRatfrom the login splash, under sessions i think12:24
JoshooaWell you log in then go to options where you type in your name, and then select kde12:24
ekul`excellent, thanks :)12:24
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SlackRatMoltov, not at the moment12:24
MoltovIts kinda strange too...12:25
SlackRatekul, you can make kde the default autologin desktop as well if you wnat12:25
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MoltovThe light on my wireless card is blinking as if its initiated, yet... its useless as far as i can summerise.12:25
SlackRatMoltov, i find my kubuntu box sometimes just doesnt connect and a reboot finds my wifi12:25
SlackRathappened yesterday12:25
ekul`awesome :D thanks12:26
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SlackRatno problem ekul12:26
Moltov... find the card or your network?12:26
ekul`now i got my sound working, and .avi files, im never going back12:26
JoshooaI am getting ready to remove windows entirely12:26
SlackRatseems to lose the network12:26
JoshooaOh, although12:26
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JoshooaI have like, 30 Gigs of software/games downloaded, for windows, s hould I just format those too?12:26
MoltovYeah see thats the thing, i since what i did with cpk1, have no wlan0 device.12:26
JoshooaOr burn 8 DVDs?12:26
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SlackRatjoshooa, if you are a gamer, why dump windows?12:27
ekul`im thinking of doing that, gonna back up some of the videos though12:27
Moltovwhats your computers stats?12:27
ekul`cant be bothered downloading those big torrents again12:27
JoshooaI'm not really12:27
ekul`im keeping windows just for gaming, but i want to set it up on my other box12:27
SlackRatwhat does Kwifi show you?12:27
JoshooaBut I have some games, I hardly install them, but I'm always like, why delete them?12:27
JoshooaAlso, everyone i know has windows, so they might like them12:27
Moltovi think i dont have it come to think of it12:28
MoltovI have wlan assistant, but... even I know its...12:28
SlackRattry and fire it from cli, then if not , apt get it12:28
Moltov*coughs* that computers not online atm, and i kinda lost the dvd12:28
SlackRatit allows you to see if your devices are detected and activated in a gui12:28
SlackRatkinda lost?12:29
MoltovBut i can find a package ^.^12:29
Moltovi know its in my room... somewhere12:29
SlackRatlike 'kinda pregnant'?12:29
Moltovyou CAN kinda lose something.12:29
MoltovIn my case i know what 360 cubic feet of space its in.12:30
SlackRattrue, and at that moment, it is for all intensive purposes, lost....12:30
MoltovJust, not where in that 360 cubic feet.12:30
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MoltovThough, realy, thats more like... 288 cubic feet, since i can count out my bed...12:31
SlackRatheh, thats what you think12:31
MoltovBut anyway, ill go download it and burn it lol12:31
Moltovwas curious12:31
ubotukwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 780 kB12:31
Moltovah there we are... humm damn no link12:32
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uroshi all. 2 questions: 1/ how do i set a command to be run everytime i log on (it is a sudo command)? 2/ why can i run kppp from one user but not from the other on this computer (could not find executable?)12:34
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SlackRatsecond user doesnt have sudo rights is my guess12:35
SlackRatso the exe isnt found for that user12:36
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urosslackrat: tnx. worked.12:38
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urosquestion left: how do i do "sudo rfcomm bind /dev/rfcomm0" automatically on login of any user?12:39
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SlackRatprobably by editing your init scripts12:39
urosslackrat: where are those?12:39
SlackRatthe scripts controlling your startup runlevels and processes12:40
SlackRatcheck out the docs, its been awhile since i tampered with debian style init scrips12:40
uroswill do12:41
SlackRatso you'd prolly get a (wrong) slackware answer, heh12:41
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SlackRatcheck the forums and google debian init scripts startup processes ,,,,or the like12:41
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Moltov*sighs hitting his head aginst the wall*12:44
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Moltovjust... a month and a half more...12:44
MoltovThats all i ask... of this poor thing...12:44
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MoltovHAH i tricked it into talking to the damn wlan card again... >.> but it adds a whole nother step to booting up and getting it working...12:47
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Joshooaas long as it works12:49
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MoltovGeh... Ill find some pro tomorrow evening, that can help me get it actualy fixed... but it works for now... and is nearing 4am, so im starting to get tired ^.^12:51
MoltovI suspect that stuf he had me do, messed with how it was booting, and caused something there... No clue how.12:51
MoltovProbobly related to its malf in the first place... but lol.12:52
MoltovWell ciao... half hope half dont hope to see you around.12:52
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JoshooaHey where are you from?12:55
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JoshooaShould I make a 100MB boot partition at the beginning of my drive?12:59
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intelikeywell i guess i got this thing back like it was before it got like it is.01:02
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Joshooabut then that means it is how it was01:03
Joshooathat's like an infinite loop sentnse01:03
intelikeyyeah that's what i said.01:03
greenguyIs there any polish kubuntu user?01:03
intelikeygreenguy yes.  there might be a channel01:03
intelikeywhat's the two letter country code to poland ?01:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl01:05
greenguyintelikey do you know the channel name?01:05
intelikeysee ubotu  ^01:05
Joshooashould I make a 100mb boot partition or is that not needed?01:06
greenguyyes, pl01:06
greenguyubotu dzieki ;)01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dzieki ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
intelikeyJoshooa depends on many other things.   1. can grub read the root fs   2  will you be mounting the boot partition manually    3 do you like having a boot partition....   and other things01:07
greenguyI saw ... thank you intelikey01:07
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waylandbillJoshooa: you can, but that's really just for when bios' had trouble with large drives.01:07
intelikey!welcome | greenguy01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
intelikey!thanks | greenguy01:08
ubotugreenguy: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:08
JoshooaWell, I have a 40GB and a 200GB and I am deciding how to partition everything before I reinstall, Kubuntu first, windows second just for backup, and maybe for games01:08
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intelikeyJoshooa install windows first that way windows doesn't mess up the linux install01:09
intelikeycan be done either way,   just goes smoother one way.01:09
JoshooaWill it do that? Damn, I was thinking linux first so it's closer to the center01:09
intelikeycloser to the center ?  how big a windows ho you gona make ?01:10
JoshooaNot sure01:11
JoshooaI want it minimal, like for emergencies, but then again I may want it to play games sometimes l ike on the network or something01:11
waylandbillJoshooa: it's uncommon to find a system with a 1024 cylinder bios limitation anymore, so needing a small /boot partition isn't really necessary.01:11
Joshooawaylandbill: Thanks, I didn't think it was necessary, but I read something and it said I should, but was a very short article and didn't say why and I couldn't tell how old it was01:12
intelikeywaylandbill as long as the bios can read the root fs.01:12
intelikeyyou get large enough you still get out of reach for grub.01:12
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SlackRatwindows installer, aka the MS virus, tends to wipe out linux partitons01:14
waylandbillintelikey: if I'm getting that large, I'm getting a mobo that can read that large too. :-)01:14
intelikeykeep in mind that the same old problems are not gone away just pushed farther down the road.01:14
intelikeythere is always a limit.01:15
intelikeyeven 40billion gig would still be a limit and someone would want to exceed it.01:16
JoshooaSo if my first drive is 40 GB, and second is 200, how should I set up my partitions for Windows and Linux?01:16
intelikeyJoshooa are you going to use one disk for a backup + storage ?01:17
Joshooapartition the 200GB, some storage some linux prob01:17
waylandbillwindows wants to be on the boot drive, otherwise you'll be needing to modify the boot.ini after install01:17
Joshooawell forget that01:18
intelikeyyeah or trick it into thinking it's on the boot drive.01:18
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waylandbillI guess I should phrase that as windows assumes it's going to be on the boot drive.01:18
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intelikey"all drives are boot drives, in this 8 disk box"01:19
JoshooaWindows assumes it's the only thing in the world too01:19
intelikeyyep that's why you need to install it first.01:19
PhinnFortthis is weird when updating with Adept Updater, in Feisty: i get something that seems like the default layout from KDevelop, named "Debconf on tripleseven" (where tripleseven is my hostname), and it whines about nice values....01:19
intelikeywindows will rewrite your boot sector01:19
intelikeyPhinnFort did you renice it ?01:20
PhinnFortintelikey: nope01:20
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PhinnFortit says "Incorrect nice value, input an integer between -19 and 20" or something, with a button that says "Next", and clicking that one results in...nothing01:21
ddwagnzholy cow thats alot of users01:21
PhinnForti can click cancel, and adept fails01:21
intelikeyPhinnFort might mention it in  #ubuntu+1   the feisty channel  and see what they say01:21
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intelikeyddwagnz where ?01:21
intelikeyddwagnz lot of users ??? where ?01:22
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ddwagnzmore than i am used to01:22
intelikeylook in #ubuntu   3x this many01:22
PhinnFortgo to #ubuntu to see users01:22
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intelikeygentoo is heavy traffic   so is debian01:23
intelikeyadd # to those ^01:23
PhinnFortwell, I used to hang in #gentoo-amd6401:23
ddwagnzmhmm anyway01:23
PhinnFortless traffic, mroe nice people;)01:23
ddwagnzi came here for some questions01:23
ddwagnzunless i can find them on the forums hehe01:23
ddwagnzso i'll get back to you guys01:24
intelikeyddwagnz i already asked you one.01:24
intelikeyhow many do you want ?01:24
intelikeythere's two01:24
intelikeyno really ask away.01:24
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intelikeycould ask so i can call the bot for you01:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:25
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PhinnFort!forum question01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about forum question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
PhinnFort!forums question01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about forums question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
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intelikeyPhinnFort and ubotu claims to know everything...   heh01:27
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage01:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse01:27
Joshooawell I tried01:27
ddwagnzi might of found something that i need answering on forums =/01:28
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ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)01:28
ddwagnzok it hasnt asnwered it01:29
JoshooaSo, if I made my 40GB Windows, and then put Kubuntu on my 200GB, would Grub still work as my boot loader?01:30
Joshooaok good I thought os01:30
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intelikeyJoshooa but why give the whole disk to win ?01:30
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JoshooaSo I can install a bunch of games and stuff too01:31
intelikeyyou can put win on half of that and linux on the other and have the big disk free for later01:31
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intelikeyjust a thought.01:31
JoshooaThen cut up the 200GB into swap, and 2 linux drives and just ignore the 40GB under Kubuntu01:31
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intelikeyyou hardware.  your os.01:32
tucoHello guys. Question of the hour, I have an acer 5670 laptop with an integrated card reader, but when I insert an sd card for example I can't see it in my storage media folder. Any hint?01:32
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intelikeyinsert correct modules ?01:32
JoshooaWell, at this point, I have 38BG in programs, and that's images not installed, 5GB of music maybe and also documents and pics I want to save01:33
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JoshooaYou want my hardware and os?01:33
intelikeyJoshooa heh no.  was just commenting that it's all up to you.01:34
intelikeyyour hardware, your os, your choice.01:34
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Joshooao ok01:34
JoshooaBut I want as much input as I can, so I can get in partitioned and installed the best way, so later when I learn something I'm less likey to wish I did it differently, which you may already know to help me01:35
intelikeycould give them half each of the big disk and have the small one free.01:35
tucoI would rerquire some help please.01:35
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ddwagnzok i may of found what i am looking for but it seems an long process to go through so heres my question01:35
ddwagnzlogging into Root user on the live cd!01:35
ddwagnzits do able on ubuntu but not kubuntu!01:36
intelikeyddwagnz  sudo -i01:36
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ddwagnzand that does?01:36
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intelikeyddwagnz answers your question.   how to become root on the live cd.01:37
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intelikey!root | ddwagnz01:37
ubotuddwagnz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:37
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intelikeyddwagnz  man intro       man man     then when someone mentions a command you can just   man "said command"    and see what they are talking about01:39
intelikeyand yes you type that in a  konsole01:39
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intelikeyor in konqueror's address bar   man:/intro01:40
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ddwagnzright. i shall be back later if i need more help!01:41
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intelikeywe'll be expecting you.01:41
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intelikeyi have all these programs to choose from... but i don't really want to install anything...    there's kinda a minimalist thing going on....01:47
intelikeyyour doom six houndred three score and six...01:47
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intelikeythere sure is a lot of quiet in here .....02:05
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intelikeyi have some mis-matched hardware,  i have a 9 pin usb port and a 16 pin plug on the motherboard... any way to make them play togather ?02:06
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turf_hello =)02:13
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intelikeyrm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*02:16
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oemgood morning all02:19
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oemok so katapult will not open i get an hour glass and then the hourglass dissapears so does add remove (Lost and Found)02:20
oemany suggestions?02:20
renatohi, I have a ubuntu linux box that I am using as a server. it has just one ip address, but I would like to associate to it several services served via http, so, for example, if it's name is server.mydomain.com, I would like to have  webmail.mydomain.com being provided by the same server providing the page /PATH/webmail, how do I do that? is it even possible?02:20
SlackRathit alt-space and katapult should show up02:21
fulat2k_any idea where i can get more gtk styles for kde in addition to qt and raleigh which is included in kde?02:21
oemno dice02:21
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SlackRatwhat does it say when you try from konsole?02:22
waylandbillrenato: yes. you have to manage the subdomains to resolve to the correct location and it differs based on the tools available from your registrar02:22
oemwho are you talking to?02:22
SlackRatwho is who talking to?02:23
oemsec i will try it in Konsol02:23
happytigerHow to make knetworkmanager in feisty remeber passwords for wpa encrypted nets. I have to renter everytime I reboot02:24
renatowaylandbill, ok, I guess I have to set up  (at my registar) a subdomain crm.mydomain.com that points to the same ip address, then (I am trying to use webmin) to set up a virtual server that associate  crm.mydomain.com to a path file, is that correct?02:24
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fulat2k_happytiger: it uses kdewallet to store the passwords.  does kdewallet gets initialised?02:26
waylandbillrenato: yeah. that sounds about right.02:26
asauphi all02:26
asaupmy disk space02:26
asaupis going at 0 mb02:26
asauphow is it possible ??02:26
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bxnplol, well if you use it in the end it will be full i guess02:27
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asaupno man02:27
renatoasaup I am just not sure how (in webmin) to connect crm.mydomain.com to the directory, it seems to want an A record, not a CNAME02:27
asaupi mean02:27
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oemwhat is the link for pastebin?02:27
renato(mind you all, I am still llearning)02:27
asaupi have a super karamba widget02:27
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asaupwhere i can show with my eyes02:27
asaupthat it goes like this02:28
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asaup638mb , 630 , 62702:28
asaupand i am not downloading anythink02:28
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asauphow can this be possible02:28
bxnplog files created by daemons02:29
bxnpyour own content02:29
bxnpi dont know, maybe you are hacked02:29
oemoem@ubuntu:~$ katapult02:29
oemX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15402:29
oem  Major opcode:  14302:29
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oem  Resource id:  0x002:29
b0rthey there, how can i install a package with all it dependencies, apt-get -f install .... didnt work02:30
oemFailed to open device02:30
waylandbillrenato: I don't use webmin, so I can't help you there.02:30
oemX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15402:30
oem  Major opcode:  14302:30
oem  Minor opcode:  302:30
oem  Resource id:  0x002:30
oemFailed to open device02:30
SlackRatsudo apt-get install <pkgname>02:30
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b0rtSlackRat: i get problem with broken dependencies02:30
waylandbilloem: remove the devices from xorg.conf that don't exist in your system (such as wacom device)02:30
oemi would but am unclear how i have only had this for about 3 days or so02:31
waylandbilloem: backup the file and remove the devices that don't exist. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you the ones that don't exist.02:32
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SlackRatbart, might be a problem with pkgs at the moment , apt gets the deps if it can02:32
oemUnknown host xorg.conf02:33
SlackRatoem, try reinstalling katapult? remove and install again?02:33
b0rtic... =/ thanks SlackRat02:33
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waylandbilloem: it's a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:34
SlackRatoem ,  i get errors as well when i fire apps from command line, but most work after the xorg errors02:34
SlackRatdapper or edgy?02:34
waylandbillSlackRat: most times that's okay, but say when smb4k sets up the sudoers file, you could get locked out of sudo because it puts those errors into the sudoers file.02:35
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oemok how do i fix this so Xorg doesnt fail02:35
waylandbillit's just a simple case of devices that don't exist and an easy fix is to comment them out.02:35
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oemi am using edgy02:36
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SlackRathmn, im on dapper, check the forums to see if this is a problem already reported02:36
oemi did and hasnt been reported as of yet02:36
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oemmy version # for edgy is X Window System Version 7.1.102:38
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waylandbillI've seen it on the forums before. It may have had different device numbers, but I'm almost positive I've seen similar02:40
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iltomeehi, can someone help: X wont start, I have to install the nvidia kernel modul each time i reboot, I just installed some updates, im still using breazy, can someone help02:41
oemok well i just got done with work and probably shouldnt be editting this untill i have had some sleep. I like the way i have it set up and well i have already broken the platform once lol dont want to reinstall just yet LMAO02:41
b0rtSlackRat: do u know about libqt3-mt 3:3.3.7 ?02:42
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b0rtwhy i cant upgrade from 3:3.3.602:42
SlackRatget some sleep, but you could reinstall katapult prolly without headaches and see what happens02:42
SlackRatwhat version are you using bort?02:42
oemty guys i appreciate you helping a convert out02:43
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b0rtim using 3:3.3.6 and i need .7 as dependency02:43
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SlackRatwhat kubuntu version?02:43
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eilkeraftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?02:44
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SlackRatbort, maybe youre trying to upgrade to an incompatible version02:44
b0rthow can i check it?02:44
b0rtif 6.10 is compatible with libqt3-mt 3:3.3.7 ?02:45
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b0rtk... ill have a look, thanks SlackRat02:47
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mix_hello! Does anyone know,why KDE isn't start in my kubuntu?02:51
frithow do i add some source ? for the aptitude , because i can't get amsn :/02:51
SlackRatmix, you have to be a  bit more specific?02:52
friti also tried with apt-cache search amsn but no way02:52
Timsenfrit just edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list02:53
mix_SlackRat sure, the kuubuntu graphic is loading,the bar under logo is finished,but i see black window :(02:53
fritok Timsen , but should i add in this file ? :)02:53
SlackRatcheck the kubuntu forums under the version youre running02:54
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Timsenyou can check if the multiverse and universe repositories are included and that there is no ' infront the line02:54
SlackRative heard that before, you may have to configure xorg to run right02:54
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Timseni mena no # infront of the line @ frit02:54
fritright Timsen02:54
mix_ok,i'll check it /SlackRat02:54
Timsenafter you commented the line in, you first must an apt-get update @ frit02:55
friti'll do that02:55
Timsengood luck02:55
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fritbecause i aslo wanted xchat02:55
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fritbut i can only get xchat-gnome02:55
fritwhich i din'yt like wery much :p02:55
fritthx Timsen02:56
fritlater ;)02:56
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Timsenyou could have a look to konversation02:56
Timsenit is also a nice irc client as i know02:56
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friti don't know this one :)02:57
friti'll test ^^02:57
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eilkeraftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?02:58
eilkerhow can i solve that ?02:59
fritcool Timsen it's nice :) i prefer taht than xchat :)03:00
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wargothhi all03:03
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pwn4tt4ckhey, have a question in the offtopic, someone plz answer?03:06
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eilkerSegmentation fault kiba-dock , any experience ?03:17
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devilsadvocatehow do i increase my mouse sensitivity?03:27
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BluesKajHowdy All :)03:32
jhutchinsMornin' BluesKaj.03:32
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BluesKajhi jhutchins , how goes it ?  .... lotsa splittsville here lately03:35
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ninouna scomoda verit03:40
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:41
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:41
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ezewath it is?03:49
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jokinis there someone alive?03:51
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fzfnope sry :P03:51
jokinfzf: should I use adept for select/deselect universe/multiverse?03:52
jokinwhere can I configure that with a GUI?03:52
fzfyes why not03:52
fzfu can do it w/ adept03:52
jokinI know how to do it by hand in konsole, but is I need to know if it is posible with gui for a friend03:52
jokinfzf: where adept have that option?03:52
jokinI selected view propietary and restricted03:53
khaijemy X server isn't displaying the color black properly, it's a mix of granulated colors. Restarting X seems to fix this but does anyone know if I can fix it w/o losing my current session?03:53
jokinand if I do apt-cache search mplayer there is not package03:53
jokinneither wine or other03:53
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fzfselect view > repo or something like that03:53
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fzfim not using english version03:54
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khaijeit only happens after a reboot for some reason meh03:55
fzfkhaije that might be ur display driver fault03:56
LL_Hakaisouwhat ports do i need to forward in my router for ktorrent?03:56
guiden_how do I get rid of old search history? If I get a match with an old search thing, the old replaces the words that I typed03:56
khaijefzf: that sounds reasonable, it's the nvidia restricted blob :-/03:56
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fzfkhaije switch to vesa and check it up then03:57
LL_Hakaisouguiden_ | that's usually a browser thing, what browser are you using?03:58
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fuelwhy is kwin-crystal binded to kubuntu-default-setting?03:59
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LL_Hakaisousorry, i couldn't tell you man04:01
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LL_Hakaisoui use firefox myself04:01
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LL_Hakaisougod i cannot wait for my ram shipment to come in04:02
slaweki'm new to linux04:02
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LL_Hakaisousalwek | hello04:02
LL_Hakaisouslawek even04:02
slawekand i have few questions04:02
chinodoes the k cd have the same stuff as the regular one ?04:02
JackPhilhowto get root privilege with konqueror?04:02
slawekfirst about the mic in skype04:02
JackPhilmust kdesu?04:02
Dr_willisJackPhil,  basicially04:02
slawekit doesn't work04:02
LL_HakaisouJackPhil | open a terminal and use the command kdesu konqueror04:03
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Dr_willisJackPhil,  i tend to use 'mc' in a terminal, to do my root file managing needs. :)04:03
chinocan you guys send me a link for the live cd ?04:03
jhutchinsLL_Hakaisou: Why a terminal?  Why not just Alt-F2?04:03
LL_Hakaisousame thing really04:03
LL_Hakaisoui have an applet button for Konsole on my kicker04:04
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visik7anyone here use filelight04:04
LL_Hakaisouwoo, look at me slinging around the process names XD04:04
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chinowhats up with the alternate cd ?04:04
LL_Hakaisoualternate CD?04:04
jhutchinschino: The kubuntu CD uses KDE, the ubuntu CD uses Gnome.04:04
LL_Hakaisoudid you buy a bundle or something?04:05
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chinojhutchins:  thats the only differnce ?04:05
chinoim just wondering if they are biased04:05
Dr_willisfirst thing i do is put an icon for Konsole onto the panel.04:05
jhutchins!alternate | chino04:05
ubotuchino: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.04:05
chinolike if kubuntu is 2nd rate04:05
slawekwhat to do with that??? "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3320"                                                                                                    swt-pi-gtk in swt.library.path, java.libary.path or the jar file04:05
Dr_willischino,  i install Ubuntu and Kubuntu both . :) that way i can use gnome or kde.04:05
Dr_willisLinux is about Choices.04:05
chinodont give me a speach04:05
chinoi been using linux 6 years04:06
jhutchinschino: There's also xubuntu, which uses xfce.04:06
Dr_willis6 yrs? thats it!04:06
chinoi jsut want to see how good kubuntu got since last time i tried it04:06
LL_Hakaisouor you can install either one and then install the GUI package of your choice later04:06
chinoheh.. thats it!04:06
Dr_willisI got underware older then that. :)04:06
LL_Hakaisouthe only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI04:06
chinothats funny that they call xfce light weight... sure its smaller but its not light weight.... they should have a blackbox or xwin version for a "light wieght" desktop04:06
LL_HakaisouI've been using linux for......... 2 weeks :D04:06
Dr_willisI normally install the 'ubuntu' version, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop first thing.   some tools i like to use are gnome bases, some are kde based..04:07
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LL_HakaisouI've also decided that I'm not gonna go back to windows =D04:07
chinoidk i just had a feeling kubuntu was being less developed i was wondering why gnome is the default... i think kde is better but i know its opinion04:07
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Dr_willisgnome is the default because from a 'tech support' point of view i guess.. its 'easier' to  keep people from screwing things up. :)04:07
chinoi personally wonna see this new gui based management tool you guys been working on to replace the kde control center.....04:08
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Dr_williseasier to  teach when theres less options.04:08
LL_HakaisouNow, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get lynched for asking this, but is there a Vista/OSX like GUI package for linux?04:08
chinoand whats up with the osdl desktop installer .. .they ever finish that yet ?04:08
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Dr_willisLL_Hakaisou,  you mean a OS-X theme for KDE ?04:08
LL_Hakaisounot really a theme04:08
LL_Hakaisoumostly widgets04:09
schtr4jhcan anybody help me?04:09
slawekone more time :Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3320 or swt-pi-gtk in swt.library.path, java.libary.path or the jar file04:09
LL_Hakaisouschtr4jh | Hello!04:09
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slaweki got that when i;m trying to run azureus04:09
LL_Hakaisouwe will attempt to04:09
schtr4jhi want to mount my d: partition on windows xp, that ican usethat files on kubuntu04:09
Dr_willisLL_Hakaisou,  theres the superkaramba stuff for all sorts of idiotic desktop widgets. :)04:09
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Dr_willisschtr4jh,   huh.. we need co clarify what you are doing.04:10
LL_Hakaisoui take offense with that idiotic desktop widget comment.... XFD04:10
Dr_willisyour D: is a windows drive?04:10
Dr_willisLL_Hakaisou,  good. :)04:10
chinoso the live cd is also an installer ?.... isn' that wierd ? are they trying to breka the paradigm ?  i gues it would be easier to just create a tool that runs on a stable live cd to install...04:10
Dr_willisLL_Hakaisou,  after seeing the plague of eyecandy comming this way....04:10
schtr4jhno...my windows drive is C, but i have music, movies, programs on D partition (drive)04:10
Dr_willischino,  using a live cd as an installer is gettting common.04:10
LL_Hakaisouthere is only one legitmate widget i really want04:11
LL_Hakaisoupost-it notes04:11
Dr_willisschtr4jh,  but it is a WINDOWS FORMATED Drive.. since its D: its using NTFS filesystem?04:11
soulriderchino: it pissed me off when i downloaded hte suse live DVD and discovered i couldnt install it with it. Sucha  waste of bandwith and media04:11
Dr_willis'windows drive' = one thats useable by windows. :)04:11
LL_Hakaisou5 bucks says yes04:11
schtr4jhyes, it is using ntfs04:11
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Dr_willisschtr4jh,  theres a great many docs out on how to get read/write access to ntfs partitions.  lets see....04:11
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:12
LL_Hakaisouwait though04:12
Dr_willisschtr4jh,  for read only access its fairly easy.04:12
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:12
LL_Hakaisouit's not truly safe to use though04:12
soulriderim going to study, bbl!04:12
Dr_willisI go the other route and let windows read/write my ext2/3 partitions04:12
soulrideri use ntfs-3g and it worked like a charm04:12
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org04:12
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LL_Hakaisouwhich reminds me04:13
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LL_Hakaisounah, i'll mess with that later04:13
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slawekso i'm guessing no one had that problem with java??04:13
comosicusi'm trying to connect on a specific server and i can't do it. where i can ask for help04:14
Dr_willisslawek,  i cant recall many problems with it04:14
Dr_williscomosicus,  connect 'how' ?04:14
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comosicusi trying use kopete to connect on a irc server04:14
slawekgoogle didn't helped either04:15
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andriangreetings, in drapper and edgy as well the dma is droped on eject, have to put it back manually every time to read a dvd, is there a solution to that ?04:15
Dr_willisguiden_,  so?04:16
slawekguiden yes it is but not with my problems :D04:16
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comosicusi'v been add the server on my  kopete but ........ name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.04:16
guiden_dr_willis, it's about integrity and freedom04:16
guiden_don't you know about that stuff?04:16
comosicuswhat it means " name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect."04:16
chinoyea in reality its a dam good idea... iget to donwload the live cd use it as a full blown desktop... then just install it!! yea..04:16
Dr_willisguiden_,  and this is imporntant to a LINUX channel in what way...04:16
chinoso should i get the desktop one or the alternate ?04:16
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Chousukeguiden_: What does it matter if google knows what people search for.04:17
Dr_williscomosicus,  i would guess the dns server failed to get the ip of the servername04:17
chinocan i still get the addvanced setup menu in the desktop cd ?04:17
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guiden_I just asked how do get rid of the search history in konqureror04:17
Dr_willischino,  advanced setup?04:17
guiden_and now I found out,04:17
chinothis is my work laptop im gonna resize the ntfs partition create a new one and install ubuntu there my self... im sure ubuntu can use the 2.6 kernel and the new swap file paradigm... but  I CANNOT HAVE SOME AUTOMATED INSTALLER FRY MY NTFS PARTITION!!!04:17
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ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:17
chinoyea you said the alternate cd had an advanced installer...04:17
comosicusso what shoud i do?04:18
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Chousukeguiden_: It's their service, and they can store the search keywords you send to them if they want.04:18
chinoi know ubuntu is debian based and last time i let debian installer   work on its own it created like 20 partitions and fried my other ones04:18
Dr_willischino,  i had the alternative cd installer resize the ntfs on my laptop. worked fine.. but it pays to backup your hd first.04:18
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Dr_willischino,  given how much hd's fail.. if you got imporntatnt stuff on your hd.. BACK IT UP now.. :)04:18
chinohm i thought linux cant resize ntfs ? last time i used the gparted live cd it said it couldn't touch ntfs04:18
Chousukeguiden_: I'd only be worried if they offered a service to see what someone (that is, a specific person) has searched for.04:19
slawekthx anyway04:19
slawekc ya04:19
chinoi dont have important stuff its just a new laptop and if i fry the windows install the corny little ms centric admin here is not gonna give me local admin rights again cause hes gonna have to redo it all over again04:19
Dr_willischino,  i think resizing ntfs is getting to be standard/common now. for disrtos.. HOWEVER.. the vista 'improvements' to ntfs. i hear break  the linxu support for ntfs04:19
guiden_well that's where we are heading, fascism, corporation of everything, the colloborate together in order to control people04:19
guiden_seriously, usa is heading for fascism04:19
Chousukemay be.04:19
comosicusi did not find and alternative server so i really whant to acces this oane04:20
guiden_after that faked 9/1104:20
Dr_willischino,  use a live cd and image the whole hd over over the network to some other machine. :)04:20
ChousukeGood thing then that I don't live there :)04:20
chinodue im just gonna use the insatlled XP to resize the ntfs drive... why play around?04:20
chinocan i do that ?04:20
chinowhat just using dd or something ?04:20
Dr_willischino,  i tend to use mondo/mindi. but I belive theres some ntfs specific tools out as well.04:20
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Dr_willisdd can be a bit 'hard-kore' to use. ;)04:20
Dr_willisand a typo with dd  can be deadly04:21
comosicusserver irc-hispano:6668. this is the server04:21
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comosicusdoc  will you help me please04:21
BluesKajI suggest you DL Gparted partition Editor , it's a live cd and works very well ...it's aboot disk so make sure your boot sequence looks at the cdrom first04:21
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Dr_willisirc-hispano dosent sound like a correct server name to me.04:21
Dr_willis ping irc-hispano.org04:21
Dr_willisPING irc-hispano.org ( 56(84) bytes of data.04:21
Dr_willis however   irc-hispano.org    DOES respond. :)04:22
Dr_willisso try that server.04:22
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chinoDr_willis:  well like i said im just gonna resize it in xp and ill try to image the resized partition ... but never the less will the desktop version cd allow me to control how the partitions are allocated when i want to install ?04:22
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Dr_willischino,  ive never noticed XP haveing a 'resize' option/feature04:22
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Dr_willisthe desktop cd has a lot of optons on where to partition things.. but i rarely use the lve cd to install. I perfer the alt-install cd.04:23
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Dr_willishttp://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsprogs.8.html       - the 'ntfs' tools have ntfs clone and other tools. :) you could mirror image your hd over the net to a spare machine.04:24
chinoDr_willis:  if you go to control_panel -> admin tools -> computer management -> disk management .... cant i use that ?04:24
comosicustry what sever since irc hispano does not respond.....you gave me just irc hispano sever04:24
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Dr_willischino,  i cant rember the last time i use XP..04:25
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chinoyea ill just go into the freenode#windows chat... lololol funny that we have one04:25
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Dr_willischino,  every time i boot to xp it always wants to download updates and force me to reboot.. so.. i rarely use it any more.04:25
Dr_willishttp://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page        - is also a must have 'live cd' for system repair/backup/fixing. :) and that gparted live cd./04:26
weathermanhi, I'm setting up nfs, how do I know the ip of the server?04:26
chinoanyway Dr_willis i have a feeling too that i woudl rather have th alternate cd.. but tell you truth i still wonna have a nice desktop visual cd load up so i can show off how easy it is... people allways argue that linux is so hard... last time i installed kubuntu it was less clicks than windows.. and i bet its better and prettier now... so does the alternate cd come packed iwth "extra" or is it all text based?04:26
Dr_willischino,  the latest Knoppix live cd - has Beryl support and other eye candy04:27
Dr_willisalt cd has different options and a bit more control, and is all text based04:27
Dr_willisi find it faster. it also is better for low end systems04:27
chinoDr_willis:  i dont want ot use Knoppix!!! i thought kubuntu live cd came with all the beryl support too ?04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
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LL_Hakaisoui must find a post it widget04:28
Dr_willischino,  not that i have seen.. at least not USED by default on the live cd...04:28
LL_Hakaisouoh, hello jucato04:28
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: knotes? superkaramba?04:28
LL_Hakaisouwhen'd you get here04:28
Dr_willischino,  ive only seen a few live cd's at all that use the Beryl stuff.. its getting more common however.04:28
ubotuknotes: KDE sticky notes. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 241 kB, installed size 836 kB04:28
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: knotes is installed by default04:29
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Dr_willischino,  the ubuntu/kubuntu live cd's are rather 'basic' live cd compared to the others out.04:29
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: it's started in Kontact, iirc04:29
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LL_Hakaisouoh holy shit yes04:29
chinohmm. choices choices04:29
chinoyea maybe ill get both because i want to show off the beryl stuff....04:30
Dr_willisi have a stack of live cd's here. :)04:30
chinoi thought kubuntu installation though came with all the beryl support baked in ?04:30
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LL_Hakaisoui just shelled it04:30
Dr_willisPuppy linux, Knoppix,  DSL, all had new versions out this week04:30
Dr_willischino,  Nope.. bo Beryl by default.04:30
Dr_willischino,  the next release was supposed to have it i think..but it got removed also I belive04:30
chinowhat... . i sware to god i read that ubuntu has beryl support in x11 and everything allready part of it04:30
LL_Hakaisouthanks for the knotes tip jucato04:31
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Dr_willisIt has 'support' but its not installed by default.. and given howmuch of a problem beryl is...04:31
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: sure04:31
comosicushey doc do you know a spanish channel on ubuntu?04:31
Dr_willisBeryl is best tried with a live cd... and then rebooted and not used for real work04:31
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:31
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chinohm i think im gonna download the new knoppix cd then04:32
chinojust for kicks04:32
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chinoso o 6.06.1 is the newesst ?04:32
Dr_willisFeisty Fawn is in testing04:33
Dr_willisEdgy Eft was the last release. Dapper is the LTS release04:33
Dr_willisi thinki got that right. :)04:33
Malphyup but might help others if you put release numbers with the names04:34
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Dr_willisthe relase #'s are just the stupid dates. :)04:34
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Dr_willisi found that use of release #'s to be... weird.04:34
Dr_willismay as well call them    by the names of the  err... states as the entered the union. :)04:35
Dr_willisheh heh... but ive seen way too many arguments about this.. so i wont start another.04:35
Malphso dapper was released in may 2006 and edgy was released october of 200604:37
chinothanks later04:37
Dr_willisMalph,  somthing like that..04:37
Dr_willisedgy was delayed i thought a month however.04:37
Jucato6.06 = 2006-06 = 2006 June04:37
Malphnot a bad way of numbering but i kinda prefure the milestones04:37
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JucatoDr_willis: no. Edgy wasn't delayed04:38
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Dr_willisJucato,  what one got delayed then? ive frogotten. :)04:38
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Dr_willisthen again - now a days i purposly wait 2 months befor updating.04:38
Dr_willisits a ZOO out there!04:38
patriciacabajucato: dapper04:38
JucatoDapper got delayed for 2 months, hence, released in June instead of April04:38
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JucatoEdgy was released on time, which meant that it only had 4 months to be developed04:39
Dr_willisHmm.. ZooBuntu would be a neat name..04:39
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patriciacaba months, hence, release in june instead of april04:39
fuelJucato: hello!04:39
Jucatofuel: hi04:39
Dr_willis'History of Ubuntu 101'04:40
BluesKajhows the Fiesty release schedule look ?04:40
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Malphsounds kinda like xubuntu04:40
Jucato!feisty | BluesKaj04:40
ubotuBluesKaj: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+104:40
fuelblender crashed my system!!!04:41
patriciacabahellooooooooooooo you are whore or prostitute04:41
Jucatopatriciacaba: if you have nothing constructive to do here, please leave04:41
eXistenZHow can I remap keys in Kubuntu?04:41
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patriciacabayour laugther or son prostituto or whoreeeeee   jeje04:41
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BluesKajhey Jucato , yeah but what's the werd on the.....inside ?   ;>)04:42
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LjLJucato: you should learn to pre-type the ban and just keep a finger above Enter04:42
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: nah i came to bug you04:42
Admiral_Chicagoanyway to clear out my swap04:42
Admiral_Chicagosomething is using all of it, I think X04:43
fuelJucato: does the transperancy in kwin-crystal work ?04:43
JucatoBluesKaj: dunno. been out whole day04:43
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Admiral_Chicagobtw, you should be working on kubuntu doc with me :)04:43
BluesKajAdmiral_Chicago, funny , it looks to me like my swap never gets used04:44
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: *should*?04:44
Jucatoyou're actually telling me that I *should* be doing something? O.o04:44
Admiral_Chicagohaha. i'm working off the SVN, reading them and sending patches to the appropriate people04:44
Admiral_Chicagogot any ideas about my question04:44
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: nope. no idea...04:45
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Admiral_Chicagoprobably something with Feisty04:45
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Jucato you know where to ask. :D04:45
jhutchins_ltAdmiral_Chicago: How muc ram you have?04:45
Malphso is the a channel on freenode devoted to ubuntu on ppc04:46
Admiral_Chicagojhutchins_lt: gig04:46
jhutchins_ltSo it shouldn't be swapping...04:47
Admiral_Chicagono my syset load is under 25% usually04:47
JucatoMalph: none that I know of. Ubuntu will be dropping official PPC support btw.04:48
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LL_HakaisouPPC seems to be going the way of the dodo anyway04:48
jhutchins_ltAdmiral_Chicago: You know tmp goes to ram now, right?  Something filling up /tmp?04:48
Admiral_Chicagoi'll look04:48
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Admiral_Chicagohmm maybe SuperKaramba04:49
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MalphLL_Hakaisou: true but if you work for a company that is owned by a mac fanatic and your VP of IT is also a mac fanatic you seem to find a lrge number of G4's laying around that would make good testing platforms if they were running linux as appossed to OS X Unix04:50
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Admiral_Chicagotook care of that...04:52
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ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:52
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LL_Hakaisouwell said04:52
kubuntuerocan I Pipe sound across a network?04:52
srednawhat is required for basic development work (compiling)?04:52
srednawhich package, i mean04:53
kubuntuero!b-E | sredna04:53
ubotusredna: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:53
jhutchins_ltkubuntuero: Yes.04:53
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srednabuild-essential, thank you :)04:54
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kubuntuerojhutchins_lt: What do I need to install?04:56
virusplease help me04:56
azzcovirus: what's your problem?04:56
jhutchins_ltvirus: We can't unlss you say what's wrong.04:56
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:57
jhutchins_ltvirus: Please tell us what IS happening, not what's not happening.04:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:57
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azzcoI've got a bit of tourble over here, qtparted recognises my HD as busy while I'm running liveCD.04:58
azzcooops typo04:58
fuelvirus in a linux channel!! not possibe :D04:58
virusmy problem I want to configure tor and privoxy I veu a simple method04:58
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virusim dont speak english04:59
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB04:59
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azzcoIsn't there language specific channels?04:59
Malphvirus: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/02/how-to-install-tor-privoxy-kubuntu-606-610/04:59
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ubotuThe #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.05:00
ubotuAttention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks05:00
virusthx Mr Malph05:00
kubuntuerovirus: What language?05:00
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Jucato!fr | virus05:01
ubotuvirus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:01
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virusok thx05:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
Admiral_Chicagoalbert: Kdict05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
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azzcoI need some help with enlarging my root partition, qtparted doesn't want to resize it =/05:03
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pointwood_may I just say that Feisty is shaping up nicely :)05:04
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kubuntueropointwood_: No you may not!!05:04
kubuntueroOh wait05:04
pointwood_<== running feisty herd5 currently :)05:04
Admiral_Chicagoit is very nice05:04
kubuntueroMaybe you can...05:04
BruceLeedsHi, mal ne frage: hat jemand hier erfahrung mit dem dateiformatsystem xfs?05:04
azzcopointwood_: What was new in feisty?05:05
jhutchins_lt!de | BruceLeeds05:05
ubotuBruceLeeds: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:05
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+105:05
Admiral_Chicagoazzco: ^^05:05
kubuntueroazzco: read the release notes 1 through 5 :)05:05
BruceLeedsthanks ubotu - acctually I know - I just chose the wrong channel ;-) Sorry for that05:05
azzcolol sorry ^^ I'd like to try it out as I've found some nice free space hehe05:05
pointwood_it still doesn't want to work together with the internal card reader in my laptop and the fingerprint reader isn't used either, but I know it should be possible to get that working05:06
jhutchins_ltazzco: Old style:  back up data, repartition, reformat.05:06
azzcojhutchins_lt: oh I need to reformat it =/05:07
ubotuA good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo05:09
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy05:09
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kubuntueroHmm I wonder of the qemu should be updated to Vista05:09
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:09
azzcoWhile I'm installing kubuntu can I add some packages before installing?05:10
LjLalbert: POSE is in Debian Testing, however it doesn't appear to be in Ubuntu Edgy, although it's referenced05:10
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albertljl: ah, what do you mean?05:11
Admiral_Chicagoazzco: to teh live CD, yes. no the install no05:11
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pointwood_one question: do you know whether knetworkmanager also supports WPA/WPA2 or is it really WEP only?05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about poes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pose - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
Admiral_Chicagoalbert: please do a /msg ubotu so we all don't see it05:12
LjLalbert: don't abuse the bot... i mean that POSE, a PalmOS emulator, is available in the Debian repositories, but for some reason it's not in Ubuntu05:12
albertAdmiral_Chicago: k05:12
albertljl: thank you05:12
Admiral_Chicagoyou can get it from debian, do a sudo dpkg -i *.deb and install it05:13
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Admiral_Chicagowon't be "official" but may work05:13
kubuntuero!wpa | pointwood_05:14
ubotupointwood_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:14
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Kenshinhi leute05:19
Kenshinredet hier keiner?05:20
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jhutchins_lt!de | Kenshin05:21
ubotuKenshin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:21
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kubuntueroHmm this is one of the largest channels on freenode05:21
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Kenshinit seams so05:22
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apokryphoskubuntuero: there are several larger ones. #ubuntu is _the_ largest though.05:22
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Admiral_Chicago#ubuntu is massive05:22
kubuntueroYeah I've noticed05:22
kubuntueroBy the time your question has had time to formulate on teh screen it's gone05:22
waylandbillubuntu channel is one step below chaos05:23
Kenshinfor me it is a chaos05:23
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pointwood_I'm tempted to upgrade to feisty now05:25
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jhutchins_ltpointwood_: Why?  Looking to help find bugs?05:26
albertljl: hi, i searched google for the debian repositories, but i only howtos for building up your own debian repositorie. can you tell me how to access them?05:26
jhutchins_ltalbert: You might ask in #debian, or look at http://debian.org05:27
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pointwood_jhutchins_lt: well, so far it runs pretty darn well :)05:28
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jhutchins_ltpointwood_: How do you know if you haven't upgraded yet?05:28
pointwood_and of course I will be submitting bug reports if I find any05:28
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pointwood_jhutchins_lt: I'm running the livecd05:28
BluesKajjhutchins , has (k)ubuntu published the exact date in April of the Fiesty release ?05:28
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: No updates to the schedule last I checked.05:29
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jhutchins_ltFrom what we've seen here I'd say there are still some pretty major things to work out.05:29
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BluesKajI'll prolly wait til the next day to do athe net upgrade due to the traffic on 0 day :005:29
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jhutchins_ltI'll give it a week or two for the same reason.  That, and Edgy is working fine for me.  If it ain't broke...05:30
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BluesKajyeah edgy is working well , for me too05:30
pointwood_jhutchins_lt: what kind of problems?05:30
pointwood_and no, it's not like edgy is broken for me either :)05:31
ale_there is an italian?05:31
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:31
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jhutchins_ltpointwood_: Some video, systems integration, things like that.05:31
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ComputerHermit Iam reading in the fourm that ubuntu is  illegal on my pc in the US05:32
ComputerHermitis this true?05:32
_AnA_send the link05:33
jhutchins_ltComputerHermit: It's a question of interpretation of the law, and what packages you've installed.05:33
jhutchins_ltComputerHermit: At this point nobody is going to come arrest you for running it.05:33
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