[12:13] <nagyv> Is there a way to teach openoffice to use kprinter? I have heard about an spadmin program, but aptitude does not now it.
[12:13] <mortici> yettenet: through samba as in winxp/linux or linux to linux?
[12:13] <intelikey> !wacom
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <kevin> i tried loading the drivers for it but it gave me an error that it could not load the module
[12:13] <mortici> !tablet
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <yettenet> Linux to Windows
[12:14] <kevin> ok
[12:14] <mortici> yettenet: you want to use samba
[12:14] <yettenet> mortici: Ok... how to?
[12:14] <mortici> kubuntu? edgy? breezy?
[12:14] <yettenet> kubuntu edgy
[12:15] <Sanne> nagyv: I remember doing this when I used the binary from openoffice.org as I still used Debian. The spadmin app came with the package. Maybe it's already on your (or my, for that matter) system?
[12:15] <mortici> you should have samba pre installed
[12:15] <adeline> bonsoir *
[12:15] <yettenet> Installing
[12:15] <Sanne> nagyv: I will look around, sec
[12:15] <nagyv> Sanne: it isn't
[12:15] <yettenet> mortici: Installed
[12:16] <mortici> yettenet: now just go to remote places, its the button next to the kmenu
[12:16] <cacg> hi
[12:16] <mortici> then click on samba
[12:16] <Sanne> nagyv: 'locate spadmin' gives me two files in /usr/lib/openoffice/program/, try this also.
[12:16] <mortici> make sure both computers are on the same workgroup :)
[12:16] <mortici> kevin: im searching around
[12:17] <kevin> ok
[12:17] <yettenet> mortici: Isn't there a command line solution instead? I'd much more appreciate it
[12:17] <Sanne> nagyv: it even starts if I cll it like that :)
[12:17] <mortici> kevin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[12:17] <nagyv> Sanne: that's it, here is the setup if you would like to add it too: http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=KDE's_printing_with_OpenOffice.org
[12:17] <mortici> yettenet: you mean you want to access shares through a shell?
[12:17] <intelikey> well i prolly just borked somfin else but that should get my printer working
[12:18] <yettenet> mortici: I mean I want to SHARE something which is on a Linux computer, not to access it
[12:18] <Sanne> nagyv: thanks a lot... there's no text in that page, though ;)
[12:18] <mortici> ahhhh
[12:18] <mortici> ok
[12:18] <mortici> you have no gui?
[12:19] <kevin> mortici it says to "Edit this below Section "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse". Make sure you use the right "Device" based on how your pad is connected. ie: USB or serial.
[12:19] <kevin> i do not know which file it is talking about
[12:19] <kevin> i have seen this thread b4
[12:19] <yettenet> mortici: I do, but I like it the old way - typing and such
[12:19] <mortici> kevin: /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P
[12:19] <nagyv> Sanne: didn't you missed somehow the link? it works for me
[12:19] <kevin> thanks
[12:20] <Sanne> nagyv: weird. I used the search and found that page, so thanks again :)
[12:20] <mortici> yettenet: ok, you will have to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[12:20] <mortici> then do smbpasswd -a <username>
[12:21] <mortici> to add a trusted username/password
[12:21] <eric_> what is the path the kde?
[12:21] <Sanne> nagyv: kprinter is very nice. OpenOffice has it's own pdf output, in case you wanted to use kprinter for that (but I guess you already know that...)
[12:21] <eric_> im installing desklist
[12:21] <eric_> for kopete
[12:21] <Krishean> when i go into the System Settings and try to change the window colors, every once and awhile the entire system will lock up. is there any way to fix this?
[12:22] <mortici> yettenet: if you want you can do alt + f2 then type kcontrol and go under internet & networking and click samba and edit a VAST amount of configuration
[12:22] <mortici> stuff you really would have to spend days figuring out throught he conf file :P
[12:22] <nagyv> Sanne: actually I would like to set up a konqueror link to convert things to pdf/print without opening the file, and openoffice has a command line to print, but not to export pdf :)
[12:22] <igorjr> hi, i have problem with samba
[12:22] <yettenet> Thanks, mortici
[12:23] <Sanne> nagyv: ah, clever. I thought this must be for some advanced trickery :)
[12:23] <mortici> yettenet: no a problem :P i love sharing, although i found out that Vista refuses linux to access its shares, but will access any linux share with no attitude
[12:23] <mortici> pos vista gah
[12:23] <igorjr> hi, i have a problem with samba. even though i added a username and assigned a password, it doesn't work when i try to connect with the other pc
[12:24] <nagyv> Sanne: I don't know it yet, but will see soon. Never ever wrote a konqueror "extension" before.
[12:24] <unholyskorn> Anyone ever setup Beryl on kubunut/ubuntu and wanna help me out!?
[12:24] <rbrunhuber> is wwwoffle in feisty not usable if there is not network connection?
[12:24] <Eagle_101> how do you take a screen shot on kubuntu?
[12:24] <Sanne> nagyv: you meand the right click entry thingy? Sevicemenu? I made some, it's very convenient we have that functionality.
[12:25] <test34> nagyv, if you right click on the file, choose print and then a PDF wouldnt that work ?
[12:25] <nagyv> Sanne, test34: that's what I would like to have, but I have no print/pdf option :(
[12:25] <mortici> unholyskorn: i have it running just fine
[12:25] <mortici> unholyskorn: what vid card do you have?
[12:26] <Eagle_101> how do you do a screenshot? (I'm not in kubuntu, but is there some button you can press somewhere?)
[12:26] <test34> nagyv, I have one and I dont think I installed anything extra.. I dont know what make it show up
[12:26] <mortici> igorjr: did you do smbpasswd -a <username>
[12:27] <mortici> Eagle_101: print screen
[12:27] <igorjr> i think so
[12:27] <test34> nagyv, it just says: Print to File (PDF)
[12:27] <igorjr> i did everything the wiki-guide told me
[12:27] <eric_> has anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete correctly?
[12:27] <mortici> igorjr: what wiki guide?
[12:27] <nagyv> test34: I have a print option for htmls, but not for odt-s or pdf-s
[12:27] <Eagle_101> mortici, and where is that? (on the keyboard?)
[12:27] <igorjr> mortici: there is an guide available
[12:27] <mortici> right next to f12
[12:27] <mortici> igorjr: link me :P
[12:27] <igorjr> mortici: kk
[12:28] <mortici> Eagle_101: should be next to f12
[12:28] <Eagle_101> ok thanks :D
[12:28] <mortici> :P
[12:28] <igorjr> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/redir.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Feasylinux.info%2Fwiki%2FUbuntu_dapper
[12:29] <igorjr> but it would appreciate it very much, if you could help me anyways
[12:29] <unholyskorn> Mortici i have the ati aiw radeon x800xt
[12:29] <igorjr> i half the way to madness
[12:29] <unholyskorn> im trying to Creating the login session entry
[12:30] <mortici> unholyskorn: eeeek i don't know how to do it with a ati card, ive only done nvidia and intel, ask in #beryl i know xsacha is runnig on a ati card and can help you
[12:30] <mortici> igorjr: gimmie a sec i know it was never extreamly complicated for me to share
[12:30] <igorjr> yeah
[12:30] <mortici> do you want authentication? as in a user name and password, and do you want read and write?
[12:30] <lordmaynoth_> does anyone know if these errors are because I need something for QT installed
[12:30] <lordmaynoth_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9004/
[12:31] <igorjr> i want read and write in the folders i share
[12:31] <igorjr> i want to copy the 6.10 kubunto iso, so i can burn it
[12:31] <igorjr> don't have a cd-writer in my pc
[12:31] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: what is that from, and no qt is fine its talking about some device
[12:32] <mortici> so your trying to share a folder on your linux box? and access it from a winxp?
[12:32] <igorjr> mortici: the other pc is a windows machine, as you probably guessed
[12:32] <test34> nagyv, how about from the command line ?
[12:32] <stdin> !baddevice
[12:32] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:32] <xnp> lordmaynoth_: you have to edit your xorg.conf to remove some wacom things
[12:32] <xnp> cause you dont use them
[12:33] <joel> lordmaynoth_: Looks like harmless warnings. Do you have an issue with the application?
[12:33] <nagyv> test34: what you mean?
[12:33] <test34> nagyv, something like: http://blog.vojta.name/archives/2005/04/03/T23_43_03/
[12:34] <mortici> igorjr: how about you try this, it might be easier, press alt + f2 then type kcontrol then go to internet & network and click on samba, click administrator mode and add your share
[12:35] <eMaX> ne1 here uses cvs on ubuntu? for some reason I keep getting connection refused
[12:35] <igorjr> mortici: trying
[12:35] <mortici> igorjr: that wiki is wacky i never did any of that stuff
[12:36] <igorjr> ah, but i started from 0 about 3 days ago
[12:36] <igorjr> gives me a feeling of security in this very complicated world of linux
[12:36] <mortici> igorjr: you can also do it the simple way of right clicking on the folder going to properties then click on the share tab and then configure sharing :P
[12:37] <igorjr> ofcouse, but i get the login-window anyway
[12:37] <igorjr> nearly made me crazy
[12:37] <igorjr> worked, can acces now
[12:37] <mortici> igorjr: i know :P
[12:38] <mortici> :P
[12:38] <igorjr> thank you very much ;)
[12:38] <mortici> not a problem :D
[12:38] <Sanne> igorjr: do you have the links to the official ubuntu and kubuntu wikis?
[12:39] <stdin> eMaX: I use it all the time, works here
[12:39] <igorjr> no, sanne
[12:39] <raindog>  Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)
[12:39] <stdin> !wiki | Sanne
[12:39] <ubotu> Sanne: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:40] <unholyskorn> how do i copy files in kubuntu terminal?
[12:40] <Sanne> igorjr: here there are: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ https://help.ubuntu.com/
[12:40] <Sanne> stdin: thanks, that was mainly for igorjr ;)
[12:40] <unholyskorn> sudo copy xgl-desktop /usr/share/xsessions
[12:40] <unholyskorn> ?
[12:40] <stdin> Sanne: :P
[12:41] <eMaX> stdin: what did you do to make it listen?
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: listen ?
[12:41] <tarnold> oi oi
[12:41] <unholyskorn> How do i copy files in terminal?!
[12:41] <eMaX> cvspserver
[12:41] <Sanne> igorjr: also the help entry on your kmenu is very helpful if you're starting out with Linux and Kubuntu.
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: ahh, the server
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: hmm, it should work
[12:42] <eMaX> I have cvspserver      2401/tcp and /udp in /etc/services yet that's apparently not sufficient
[12:42] <igorjr> thx, sanne
[12:42] <igorjr> can you tell me, how to set all samba settings to default?
[12:42] <Sanne> igorjr: in the server guide in there there's even a chapter about samba, maybe you want to have a look at that also.
[12:44] <tarnold> what is a good KDE music player?
[12:44] <K`zan> Anyone have an idea why this mounts, but doesn't show up when running "df":
[12:44] <stdin> tarnold: amarok
[12:44] <K`zan> xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:/nettmp    /nettmp         nfs     defaults 0      0
[12:44] <Sanne> tarnold: most people would recommend amarok. For me, it's xmms, a bit old school, but I like the simplicity.
[12:45] <Sanne> tarnold: I have to add, xmms is not kde per se, it's a gtk1 app.
[12:45] <tarnold> oh
[12:45] <tarnold> how do get the add printer option?
[12:46] <lordmaynoth_> xnp,  what wacom things do I need to remove?
[12:46] <tarnold> im looking at a book: moving to linux kiss the blue screen of death good bye- chp 8 under printers
[12:46] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: look at http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:46] <lordmaynoth_> thanks
[12:47] <Sanne> tarnold: in Kubuntu, I just used the printer entry in System Settings.
[12:47] <Krishean> under linux you don't get the blue screen
[12:47] <Krishean> it just locks up
[12:47] <tarnold> sanne: ok
[12:47] <stdin> eMaX: is there an entry for it in /etc/inetd.conf
[12:47] <coreymon77> Krishean: its called a kernel panic
[12:47] <stdin> ?
[12:48] <Krishean> i don't get any messages
[12:48] <tarnold> yes im aware kissing blue screen of death goodbye is the subtitle referring to moving from windows to linux
[12:48] <lordmaynoth_> if its harmless I wont even mess with it
[12:48] <WackedChild> hi dawn
[12:48] <WackedChild> :)
[12:48] <WackedChild> dawn: hello buddy
[12:48] <Krishean> the screen just displays the same image
[12:48] <dawn> hello buddy
[12:48] <Zancat> hello people
[12:49] <Krishean> whatever the last state was before it froze
[12:49] <dawn> we are getting snow
[12:49] <coreymon77> Krishean: its very hard to make that happen in linux though
[12:49] <Krishean> well i've done it twice
[12:50] <Krishean> consistently
[12:50] <coreymon77> Krishean: so have i
[12:50] <coreymon77> Krishean: but still
[12:50] <Krishean> just by typing in a text box
[12:50] <tarnold> hey gang if my printer is wireless how would i add it under the add printer options?
[12:50] <NDPTAL85> Why email client do you guys prefer? I'm trying to choose between Evolution and Thunderbird.
[12:50] <coreymon77> tarnold: very very easy
[12:50] <coreymon77> tarnold: whats the printers ip adress
[12:50] <raindog>  Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)
[12:50] <Krishean> the html color code box in the window colors preferences
[12:50] <NDPTAL85> Bah I meant "Which"
[12:50] <Sanne> Krishean: sometimes it can be due to bad ram, or maybe a video driver error.
[12:50] <Krishean> i try to type in a color and boom its locked up
[12:51] <WackedChild> dawn: ok I am departing\
[12:51] <WackedChild> cyas
[12:51] <coreymon77> Krishean: thats your computer's problem, not linux's
[12:51] <Krishean> i tested my ram with the memtest thing and its fine
[12:51] <Krishean> and it has the default nv driver
[12:51] <carutsu> hello
[12:51] <Krishean> it is not the computer
[12:51] <tarnold> ok
[12:51] <coreymon77> tarnold: what is the ip adress of your printer?
[12:52] <carutsu> scuse me, where can i get the multimedia codecs for Kubuntu.. i find them for ubuntu
[12:52] <dawn> ok
[12:52] <stdin> NDPTAL85: it's up to personal preference, I like TBird, others like KMail, some like Evolution. Try them out and see what you like best
[12:52] <Sanne> Krishean: what kde theme do you use?
[12:52] <coreymon77> tarnold: do you know ir
[12:52] <carutsu> but i want to play an mpg video
[12:52] <coreymon77> it*
[12:52] <tarnold> 192. 168.0.109
[12:52] <coreymon77> okay
[12:52] <coreymon77> so
[12:52] <Krishean> ive changed the theme a bunch of times
[12:52] <Krishean> it dosen't seem to matter what theme
[12:52] <coreymon77> tarnold: what printer?
[12:52] <tarnold> an HP 2710 all in one
[12:52] <Krishean> its the window color configuration dialog
[12:52] <stdin> carutsu: Kubuntu IS Ubuntu, just with KDE instead of Gnome, all the packages are the same
[12:53] <Krishean> well
[12:53] <Sanne> Krishean: that sounds really weird. I used the html color entry multiple times.
[12:53] <Krishean> yeah
[12:53] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, so, go to the kde add printer wizrd
[12:53] <Krishean> i can use everything else fine
[12:53] <Krishean> but when i try the color config it does that
[12:53] <coreymon77> Krishean: do you have window shadowing on?
[12:53] <carutsu> stdin no
[12:53] <Krishean> im not shure
[12:53] <Krishean> where do i check that?
[12:53] <coreymon77> Krishean: cause that could be the problem
[12:53] <Krishean> titlebar shading?
[12:54] <Krishean> gradient
[12:54] <Krishean> w/e
[12:54] <stdin> carutsu: what do you mean "no", what are you saying no to?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin the codecs for gnome are for totemo or something... but i use kafeine
[12:54] <coreymon77> Krishean: do you have shading enabled?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin sorry i was typing
[12:54] <Krishean> i don't know
[12:54] <Krishean> coreymon77: how do i check?
[12:54] <stdin> carutsu: have you looked at the help page for installing codecs?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin: yep
[12:54] <carutsu> they are for xine
[12:55] <coreymon77> tarnold: wait 2 secs and ill continue with you
[12:55] <carutsu> the strange is i can play mp3 but no mpg
[12:55] <tarnold> ok
[12:55] <tarnold> thanks
[12:56] <carutsu> stdin i use kfeine and those are for totem... :S
[12:56] <aleska> gnome user here, but currently trying out kde and really impressed so far!
[12:57] <carutsu> aleska i love KDE
[12:57] <aleska> is nautilus' replacement in kde konquerer?
[12:58] <Eagle_101> does xchat work in kubuntu?
[12:58] <bxnp> aleska: use dolphin instead of konqueror this will allso be the default filemanager in kde4
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Eagle_101: ya
[12:58] <aleska> yes xchat does...I'm using it now
[12:58] <stdin> carutsu: totem can use either the xine engine, or the gstreamer one, which engine you have installed depends on what you install, but you can just use the command on the help page to grab them all
[12:58] <Eagle_101> if so how come sudo apt-get install xchat not work
[12:58] <coreymon77> tarnold: anyways
[12:58] <Eagle_101> sorry :S
[12:58] <coreymon77> tarnold: have you opened the kde add printer wizard?
[12:58] <carutsu> i have kubuntu... what does kaffeine use? Xine?
[12:59] <stdin> carutsu: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" should get you just about everything
[12:59] <carutsu> err
[12:59] <carutsu> ok
[12:59] <tarnold> ok so amarok doesn't play MP3's and i hit add mp3 support and adept fetched the packages and i still got teh same messages
[12:59] <Eagle_101> and xchat? by any chance something else required?
[12:59] <tarnold> coreymon77: yes ive KDE add printer wizard open
[01:00] <bxnp> aleska: have you heard about dolphin
[01:00] <stdin> tarnold: have you restarted amarok after you installed the codec?
[01:00] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, so, choose the network printer (tcp/ip) option
[01:00] <tarnold> stdin: nope
[01:00] <stdin> tarnold: yeah, you need to do that :)
[01:00] <derek_> is there any way that you can see whats going on during boot, like f2 for other distrobutions during boot...?
[01:00] <tarnold> coreymon77: ok,   did that
[01:00] <aleska> is dolphin something I would apt-get, or should it already be installed?
[01:00] <Krishean> so how do i check for this window shading thing?
[01:00] <carutsu> stdinalthough is very weird i downloaded a library and i can play mp3 for example... and wmv but something failed when i tried to open a mpg
[01:00] <derek_> because my computer wont boot
[01:01] <tarnold> stdin: how do i restart it, it just goes to the system tray
[01:01] <stdin> tarnold: right click it (in the system tray), choose Quit
[01:01] <aleska> bxnp: I haven't heard of dolphin
[01:01] <coreymon77> tarnold: do you see the box that says "printer address:"?
[01:01] <tarnold> stdin: ok now what>
[01:01] <tarnold> coreymon77: yes
[01:01] <coreymon77> tarnold: enter your printers ip adress into that
[01:02] <stdin> tarnold: then just start it up again, and it should work
[01:02] <coreymon77> tarnold: and then press next
[01:02] <tarnold> stdin: ok
[01:02] <carutsu> stdin... when i boot my pc, it says that there are diferences betwen the sector of /dev/hda1 and its backu the point is is my windows partition i dont want it to check it anymore, how do i turn that of or at least stop it from cheking it... it takes quite some time...
[01:02] <Eagle_101> ideas on why it can't find xchat?
[01:02] <Krishean> shade sorted column in lists?
[01:02] <tarnold> coreymon77: ok adding ip address now
[01:03] <tarnold> tryign to multitask wiht printer, set up amarok and talk to grandparents
[01:03] <coreymon77> tarnold: once you press next, the select driver page will show up
[01:03] <tarnold> coreymon77:  what port?
[01:03] <coreymon77> tarnold: all you need is the ip adress
[01:04] <stdin> carutsu: if the line for that partition has something like "0 1", change it to "0 0"
[01:04] <tarnold> coreymon77: alright hitting next now then
[01:04] <bxnp> well aleska this will be the future anyway take a look at http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/deskje1.png
[01:04] <coreymon77> tarnold: what printer is it again?
[01:04] <stdin> carutsu: (in /etc/fstab) sorry :)
[01:04] <aleska> bxnp: thx, will do...is it in repositories?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> I hope dolphin has the option to sort files by type , which it doesn't do now
[01:04] <tarnold> coreymon77: said no printer found at this IP address/printer'
[01:04] <carutsu> stdin lol, i was just wbout to ask
[01:04] <MetaBookfoziS> !print
[01:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:04] <tarnold> an HP photosmart 2710 all in one printer
[01:05] <coreymon77> tarnold: are you sure that in the correct ip?
[01:05] <bxnp> yes but that is an old version
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapperw
[01:05] <bxnp> i would download the source and compile it yourself
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> sorry
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> so where i found this in kubuntu
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> ?
[01:05] <carutsu> stdin: what will that do? ot better asked what does that mean?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !dolphin
[01:05] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[01:05] <tarnold> should be...i see an IP address  under HP network configuration page under General Information
[01:05] <bxnp> yes 0.6 is the old version aleska
[01:06] <bxnp> you dont have the sidebar with 0.6
[01:06] <coreymon77> tarnold: did you check the network config page on the printer
[01:06] <carutsu> stdin it has 0 1, so i change it to 0 0?
[01:06] <stdin> carutsu: the 1st number doesn't do much, but the 2nd number decides the order that a filesystem is checked, setting it to "0" means don't check it
[01:06] <tarnold> where would that be?
[01:06] <stdin> carutsu: yeah, to 0 0
[01:07] <eMaX> stdin thanks that wasit
[01:07] <coreymon77> tarnold: does your printer have its own little lcd screen?
[01:07] <carutsu> stdin thanks i always like to know what i'm doing
[01:07] <stdin> eMaX: isn't it annoying when there isn't an init script :P
[01:07] <tarnold> yes it doess
[01:08] <stdin> carutsu: no problem :)
[01:08] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, press the setup button on the printer
[01:08] <tarnold> ok
[01:08] <igorjr> hey, i got still problems with samba
[01:08] <tarnold> have to go over there, what am i looking for- so i don't have to make several small trips
[01:08] <igorjr> if i just share the folder, i get the "guest" login
[01:08] <igorjr> even though i haven't assigned a password
[01:09] <coreymon77> tarnold: first press the setup button
[01:09] <coreymon77> tarnold: then on the window that pops , scroll to "Network"
[01:09] <igorjr> !samba
[01:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:09] <aleska> LOVING yakuake BTW!
[01:09] <tarnold> ok
[01:10] <tarnold> where about for network...?
[01:10] <coreymon77> tarnold: then in the network menu
[01:10] <Eagle_101> Ok, what is wrong with this command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9022/ < error loading xchat for some reason
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: click on "View Network Settings"
[01:11] <bxnp> yes yakuake is great
[01:11] <bxnp> but aleska how long did you use gnome and why did you switch to kde
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: then on the network seetings page, scroll to "view Wired Summary"
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: on that page, there should be an ip address
[01:11] <unholyskorn> omg kubuntu is a piece of crap
[01:11] <Flying_Eagle> oh yea
[01:12] <stdin> Eagle_101: make sure you have the universe repository enabled
[01:12] <coreymon77> tarnold: put that ip address that is shown into the printer adress box on the kde printer wizard
[01:12] <Eagle_101> and how do you do that (I'm giving this info to an absolute newbie so a command line command would be nice)
[01:12] <aleska> bxnp: used gnome for about a year.  had no real qualms.  frankly was just curious to see how the otherside lived ;-)
[01:12] <tarnold> ok
[01:12] <carutsu> stdin: anoter issue i though i had the version 9 of flash player
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: okay, what the hell, you come into the kubuntu irc channel just to say that kubuntu is a piece of crap
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: thats called trolling
[01:13] <unholyskorn> yah it works like crap
[01:13] <stdin> Eagle_101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu will tell you how
[01:13] <unholyskorn> i just installed it and already adept wont run
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: if thats all you are here for, leave now
[01:13] <Eagle_101> stdin, thanks
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: if you want support, ask your question politely
[01:13] <aleska> bxnp: I changed the panel layouts to resemble something I was more used to...and now I'm thinking I really like this, especially these kde apps (amarok for starters!)
[01:14] <carutsu> stdin: i can open youtube, hoever opening metacafe it says that cant be opened i tried installing the non-free but it says is for mozilla-like engines and i want to try Konqueror for a while, how can i fix this?
[01:14] <unholyskorn> adept wont run, and admin mode wont run in computer settings
[01:14] <tarnold> coreymon77:  ok well the IP on the printout summary is the same as on the lcd screen
[01:14] <bxnp> lol, i dont use the specific kde apps like amarok
[01:14] <Krishean> actually adept crashed on me once too
[01:14] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: what do you mean wont run
[01:14] <bxnp> it uses way to much resources, for just simple letting me enjoy music
[01:14] <BluesKaj> unholyskorn, if you have problem these kind ppl will help, but with your attitude they might just let you stew for a while '
[01:14] <aleska> no?  but amarok is so wonderful
[01:14] <stdin> carutsu: Konqueror will use the mozilla plugin
[01:14] <bxnp> xmms is enough for me
[01:14] <aleska> ah
[01:15] <unholyskorn> well, adept sits there with the loading icon then disapears
[01:15] <bxnp> i dont look at amarok, i listen to music
[01:15] <aleska> :)
[01:15] <unholyskorn> and the admin mode i click it and it goes to a blank screen
[01:15] <carutsu> stdin: thank you
[01:15] <bxnp> and how nice it maybe looking its not my first priority :)
[01:15] <stdin> carutsu: just make sure you have the bacports repository enabled, and install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:15] <Sanne> bxnp: ha! another one :) I also love xmms.
[01:15] <aleska> makes sense
[01:15] <cecko> Hi all, what info should I submit with a bug report if my ThinkPad's wifi does not work sometimes? in kNetworkManager it shows no networks and WlanAssistant "No useable wireless devices found"
[01:15] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: doesnt a window pop up asking you for a password?
[01:15] <bxnp> my god, Sanne are you a male of female
[01:15] <unholyskorn> nope
[01:15] <bxnp> cause in holland sanne is a female name
[01:15] <stdin> carutsu: flash9 is only in backports, it's version 7 in the normal universe repo
[01:15] <Eyeless> cecko: is your networkcard on?
[01:16] <carutsu> backports... ok
[01:16] <carutsu> stdin: backports... ok
[01:16] <slyfox> Where do I set how often Kmail should check for email ?
[01:16] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: how long have you waited for the window to pop up
[01:16] <cecko> I hope so, the HW switch does work only for BT
[01:16] <Sanne> bxnp: in Germany also (but more a nickname of the full name). And I'm in Germany, so... ;)
[01:16] <unholyskorn> minutes
[01:16] <Eyeless> cecko: the lil green wifi logo below the screen
[01:16] <cecko> Eyeless: it never lights, even when it's on
[01:16] <Eyeless> because you can turn the wificard on and off with fn+f5 or something like that
[01:17] <bxnp> kee, amnyway xmms is great however i have some strange redrawing problems when i run xmms
[01:17] <aleska> I like the fact that amarok seems to work well in transferring files to my rockboxed iPod.  Does xmms have similar capabilties?
[01:17] <stdin> carutsu: it will be a line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" in your sources list
[01:17] <Sanne> bxnp: really? For me it's quite stable.
[01:17] <bxnp> well xmms is stable
[01:18] <cecko> Eyeless: Fn+F5 does not do anything either (the right combination)
[01:18] <carutsu> stdin yep i already actived it
[01:18] <bxnp> look i will give you a screenshot what happends to my other windows when i play music with xmms
[01:18] <stdin> carutsu: just making sure :P
[01:18] <Sanne> bxnp: ok
[01:18] <Eyeless> cecko: hold on a sec ill check on my thinkpad
[01:18] <joel> I have had lagging while moving the xmms window sometimes. But that was like six years ago.
[01:18] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: and how does adept not work
[01:18] <ComputerHermit> ello Iam on the fourm and I dont see wheir to post a new thread Iam on the new post why ?
[01:19] <unholyskorn> already said why it doesnt work
[01:19] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: be a little more specific\
[01:19] <unholyskorn> it sits there with the loading icon near my cursor, and the loading adept in the taskbar
[01:19] <ubuntu__> I'm having trouble installing on a brand new external hard drive. I get the error: "the ext 3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCS13 (0,0,0) sdb failed"  Can anyone help me?
[01:19] <cecko> Eyeless: you wrote the right combo, in windows it works an lights alright, not in Kubuntu even though the wifi work 97% of time
[01:19] <unholyskorn> then dissapears
[01:19] <unholyskorn> and doesnt run, obviuosly
[01:19] <unholyskorn> obviously*
[01:19] <Eagle_101> by chance is it still in your list of processes?
[01:20] <bxnp> http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/garba.png look sanne
[01:20] <cecko> Eyeless: I've got Z60t
[01:20] <carutsu> stdin thank you
[01:20] <Eagle_101> unholyskorn, ?
[01:20] <Sanne> bxnp: eeeek
[01:20] <stdin> carutsu: you're welcome :)
[01:20] <bxnp> yeah, you can say hat
[01:20] <bxnp> that
[01:20] <unholyskorn> what eagle?
[01:20] <Sanne> bxnp: what if you try another window decoration style?
[01:20] <bxnp> i have it allso when i use the program kaffeine
[01:20] <unholyskorn> how else can i explain it
[01:20] <Eagle_101> by chance is it still in your list of processes?
[01:20] <unholyskorn> it sits there and doesnt load
[01:21] <bxnp> dunno But i loke this decoration
[01:21] <bxnp> loke
[01:21] <carutsu> stdin: i've heard is a shame that they had to give it to us (the 9 flash plug in) however i think that is a good thing... it means they are taking seriously linux
[01:21] <bxnp> like
[01:21] <bxnp> sorry
[01:21] <Eyeless> cecko: i got a t51 i think. anayway that key was the only thing i could think of. My wifi dies sometimes but toggling it on and off with fn+f5 usally fix that
[01:21] <Sanne> bxnp: yes, sure, but just to see if it has anything to do with that specific style.
[01:21] <MetaBookfoziS> cool under kubuntu i set up 1000tiems faster a hp printer than on windows
[01:22] <unholyskorn> well im out, thanks for the help
[01:22] <unholyskorn> guess i gotta uninstall it
[01:22] <stdin> carutsu: it's a shame we had to wait so long, we had to wait from version 7 to version 9
[01:22] <Sanne> bxnp: it's a nice style, btw. Which one is it?
[01:22] <bxnp> oh i understand, well no i have it allso with other window decoration
[01:22] <Sanne> ah
[01:22] <carutsu> stdin: well that's true
[01:22] <stdin> ComputerHermit: which forum are you on?
[01:22] <Eagle_101> underdog5004, did you check your list of processes?
[01:22] <cecko> Eyeless: any idea what info|konsole output I should submit with the bug?
[01:22] <bxnp> dunno let me look
[01:22] <Sanne> ok
[01:22] <Eagle_101> gah
[01:22] <Eagle_101> unholyskorn, did you check your list of processes
[01:23] <Eyeless> cecko: id try and ask in the forums before submitting a bugrepoert
[01:23] <carutsu> stdin was a pleasure to talk to you, and thank you for your help
[01:23] <stdin> carutsu: no peoblem, that's why I'm here :)
[01:23] <cecko> Eyeless: alright, thx
[01:23] <bxnp> Sanne: its suse2 windows decoration
[01:24] <bxnp> suse2
[01:24] <Eyeless> cecko: no need, i couldnt actuly help you :P
[01:24] <mortici> brb
[01:24] <carutsu> stdin i hopw we meet again, see you later (unfortunetly university homework cant made itself
[01:24] <Sanne> bxnp: thanks, might try it :)
[01:24] <stdin> carutsu: I'm normally here, see you later
[01:24] <bxnp> kwin-style-suse2 to be exact
[01:25] <bxnp> but you live in germany Sanne
[01:25] <carutsu> stdin ;)
[01:25] <Fizzbane> How do i check to see what hd my windows is installed in so i can add it to grub?
[01:25] <popow> WHat is a good *nix replacement for MS Project? Preferably a KDE thing? Kplato seems a bit weird
[01:25] <bxnp> then its very late overthere
[01:25] <joel> bxnp: Is that graphic error driver-related?
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> lol I got it
[01:25] <Sanne> bxnp: yes, I was born here ;) And I'm a night owl.
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> Iam very tired
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> hahah
[01:26] <bxnp> hi joel to be honest i dont know, i might be, but i get it when i play music with xmms or with kaffeine
[01:26] <Sanne> bxnp: looks nice, that style, thanks for the tip
[01:26] <bxnp> what do you think it is joel
[01:26] <bxnp> Np Sanne
[01:26] <Fizzbane> is there a partition thingy on linux i can use to look at my partions?
[01:27] <joel> bxnp: Maybe you could try change resolution or, if you dare do some x configuration: Try vga or vesa driver.
[01:27] <bxnp> sanne www.postproductie.nl/burningman/firefox.png icons look at the lower part of the screen
[01:27] <bxnp> let me look at my x configuration
[01:27] <bxnp> one sec
[01:27] <userund> Fizzbane: qtparted or gparted
[01:27] <joel> bxnp: I have something similar with SLAX on some computers I sit with.
[01:27] <userund> Fizzbane: or of course fdisk
[01:27] <igorjr> fuck this
[01:28] <igorjr> i 'm so goddam angry
[01:28] <Fizzbane> how do i use them?
[01:28] <Sanne> bxnp: pretty
[01:28] <igorjr> i add a user at samba, assign a password and then he disappeas
[01:28] <nalioth> igorjr: your language will not help you, please be civil
[01:28] <igorjr> sorry
[01:28] <userund> Fizzbane: well, you have to install them if they aren't already.  fdisk is installed by default, so you can go to a terminal and type fdisk
[01:28] <Eagle_101> hey Saga-Linux :D
[01:28] <Saga-Linux> Hey
[01:28] <Fizzbane> ok
[01:28] <Eagle_101> hope these folks can help
[01:29] <joel> bxnp: I'd try xrandr first, before fiddling with xorg.conf
[01:29] <bxnp> well joel i cant change the resolution cause this is the hights resolution and dont want to do 800x600 but i could try vesa
[01:29] <Saga-Linux> I'm having trouble setting Firefox as my default browser on kubuntu
[01:29] <bxnp> does vesa do 1024x768
[01:29] <Saga-Linux> Currently it uses Konqueror - but I tried using Firefox's settings, but it doesn
[01:29] <joel> try xrandr to set it to a diffrent just for a while.
[01:29] <Fizzbane> i typed fdisk and all i got was examples
[01:30] <Saga-Linux> doesn't do anything...
[01:30] <bxnp> i am on a laptop joel
[01:30] <coreymon77> igorjr: watch the language
[01:31] <joel> bxnp: Yeah... so? Will it not work?
[01:31] <igorjr> oh well
[01:31] <userund> Fizzbane: type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda (or sda if you have a sata drive)
[01:32] <Fizzbane> i want to check my sata drive. does it matter if its mounted?
[01:32] <userund> no
[01:32] <joel> bxnp: I dont know your computer, but I was under ipression even laptops could display other resolutions than the optimal.
[01:32] <bxnp> yes one sec
[01:33] <userund> Saga-Linux: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:33] <kmi> hi... I can't find anywhere, how can I change the resolution of my kubuntu console (alt-f1)?
[01:33] <Fizzbane> Ok, how do i add my windows to grub?
[01:33] <userund> !grub | Fizzbane
[01:33] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:33] <Saga-Linux> Thanks userund
[01:34] <joel> bxnp: I dont suggest you change permanently, only to see if the corruptions occur on more than your standard res.
[01:34] <joel> :)
[01:34] <bxnp> how can i yes :) i am lookig how to change it whit xrandr
[01:35] <bxnp> never used it
[01:37] <mortici> wth how come normal users can't acces my windows partition :/
[01:37] <posingaspopular> permissions
[01:37] <intelikey> umask=
[01:37] <coreymon77> mortici: ntfs right?
[01:37] <mortici> should i set the options to users,ro and not defaults
[01:37] <mortici> coreymon77: yes
[01:37] <coreymon77> mortici: well, there you go
[01:38] <mortici> ok :P
[01:38] <mortici> lol
[01:38] <intelikey> no permissions on M$ fs's
[01:38] <Fizzbane> how do i save the menu.lst?
[01:38] <mortici> intelikey: ???
[01:38] <coreymon77> mortici: my suggestion is to chop off a bit of space from your laregest hard drive
[01:38] <coreymon77> and format it as fat32
[01:38] <coreymon77> thats what i did
[01:39] <mortici> nah i got the drive split in two
[01:39] <coreymon77> i use it as a shared os storage drive
[01:39] <mortici> 320gb's for the win :D
[01:39] <igorjr> mortici: can you help me please
[01:39] <bxnp> oke joel
[01:39] <bxnp> i am at 800x600 no lets open xmms to see if it happends again
[01:39] <igorjr> mortici: i just don't get it
[01:39] <joel> bxnp: yay, good luck :)
[01:39] <intelikey> umask=022
[01:40] <bxnp> yes i have it again
[01:40] <joel> doh
[01:40] <Fizzbane> 500gb external FTW
[01:40] <igorjr> mortici: in the share modus i'm able to browse the shared folders, but i can't access them, i get a guest-login window
[01:40] <mortici> igorjr: whats the issue?
[01:41] <igorjr> mortici: i can't add users though, cause the get deleted again
[01:41] <joel> bxnp: Well, I'd try vesa to rule out the possibility anyway. But do take a backup on the config file if you do attempt it.
[01:42] <Fizzbane> how do i add grub and dont send me those links again cuz i have read them and they dont help. so far i have "title windows, root (sda1)" what else do i have to type in?
[01:42] <joel> bxnp: This weekend, I didnt >_<
[01:42] <mortici> igorjr: i just used the right click method on a folder
[01:42] <mortici> then made it a windows share
[01:42] <bxnp> no problem i have allways a live cd, besides that when i edited a file with vi it does the backup file automaticly
[01:42] <mortici> i didn't use a password/username
[01:43] <bxnp> atleast in my configuration
[01:43] <intelikey> Fizzbane chainloader+1 boot
[01:43] <Fizzbane> all one line?
[01:44] <intelikey> 2 lines
[01:44] <Fizzbane> type it out as you would in the terminal
[01:44] <Fizzbane> cuz i am not following
[01:44] <joel> bxnp: Hehe, yeah. Well suffice to say, I did many incremental changes. (automatic backup is only so good.)
[01:44] <dell190> i have a problem with Kubuntu looking for a file Resolv.conf, and when i try to put it in the directory is says that access is denied, anyone know how to get around this ??
[01:44] <intelikey> chainloader+1
[01:44] <intelikey> boot
[01:45] <intelikey> duh
[01:45] <joel> In the end, I discovered it was other bugs. Yeeehhcs! took me four hours.
[01:45] <bxnp> change the permissions of that file dell190
[01:45] <Fizzbane> im new at linux, i have done alot of work in DOS though, but thank you
[01:45] <dell190> when i try to.. it also says Denied...
[01:46] <igorjr> mortici: doesn't work for me
[01:46] <bxnp> oke let me test it joel maybe you could help dell190 with a little permission problem
[01:46] <Fizzbane> How do i save the menu.lst for grub now?
[01:46] <bxnp> while i do a reboot into my new vesa driver
[01:46] <joel> dell190: try:  -->      ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[01:46] <intelikey> dell190 don't change the permissions.   use sudo to write it.
[01:47] <dell190> ok i am new to this, so i really dunno what yall are talkin bout
[01:47] <intelikey> joel /etc/* should not be world writable.
[01:47] <intelikey> !sudo | dell190
[01:47] <ubotu> dell190: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:47] <intelikey> !kdesu | dell190
[01:47] <ubotu> dell190: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:48] <NixHex> hey, has anyone experienced a 64bit kernel being installed onto a 32bit OS, or vice versa? cause I just experienced that last night--today
[01:48] <intelikey> NixHex 32bit in a k8 box is common.
[01:48] <joel> dell190: What are you trying to do? Put the file in what directory?
[01:49] <Fizzbane> How do i save the menu for grub that i just edited in terminal?
[01:49] <NixHex> intelikey: no, I installed 32bit edgy, when I updated everything, the kernel ended up as the 64bit kernel
[01:49] <dell190> ECT directory... the KPPP said it needs it
[01:49] <intelikey> Fizzbane if you didn't edit as root you save it to your home dir and sudo cp it over then chown it to root
[01:50] <Fizzbane> i edited as root
[01:50] <intelikey> then just save it.
[01:50] <Fizzbane> HOW?
[01:50] <intelikey> what editor ?
[01:50] <joel> dell190: name servers can be added via kde control center (at least my version)
[01:50] <Fizzbane> the konsole terminal
[01:50] <joel> oops... sorry.
[01:50] <joel> forgot to scroll down.
[01:50] <intelikey> konsoe is not an editor
[01:51] <intelikey> konsole even
[01:51] <Fizzbane> ....i typed stuff in it......
[01:51] <intelikey> Fizzbane what did you type in ?
[01:51] <intelikey> if i don't know what editor you are using i can't tell you how to use it can i
[01:51] <Fizzbane> im in the konsole
[01:52] <igorjr> mortici: it worked now, my bad....
[01:52] <igorjr> we'll, i fought against my own stupidity
[01:52] <igorjr> well..
[01:52] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: What did you type?
[01:52] <Fizzbane> i typed in title windows, root (sda1), chainloader+1,boot
[01:52] <intelikey> ok this is going no where. Fizzbane when you graduate primary grammer  we'll talk.
[01:52] <userund> Konsole is only a program to access a shell.  You have to use a command-line editor like nano or vim to EDIT files from the Konsole
[01:53] <igorjr> is windows xp able to handel ext3 ?
[01:53] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Are you trying to change a grub entry or fix a resolv.conf problem?
[01:53] <igorjr> handle..
[01:53] <intelikey> Fizzbane if you put those strings in a konsole  you have done nothing.
[01:53] <jhutchins> igorjr: Not natively, no.
[01:53] <Fizzbane> i typed in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to access the menu. I am trying to edit Grub to include my windows installation.
[01:53] <jhutchins> igorjr: There are ext3 drivers available.  Use at your own risk.
[01:53] <intelikey> except seen some interesting  bash: error messages.
[01:53] <igorjr> jhutchins: thank you
[01:54] <intelikey> Fizzbane ok  nano
[01:54] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You are using the nano editor.
[01:54] <userund> Then you used nano.  Ctrl+X saves with nano.  It's at the bottom of the screen.....
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ctrl + 0 does
[01:54] <Fizzbane> it says control+x is exit
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Ctrl + X exits, asks to sawe if there have been edits
[01:54] <intelikey> Fizzbane at the bottom of the nano screen there is a command key....   the  ^ means hold the [ctrl]  key down and press....
[01:54] <jhutchins> igorjr: Using fat32/vfat is the most common way to share partitions between Windows & Linux.
[01:54] <userund> well, if you've made changes it asks to edit.  how I always use it
[01:54] <Fizzbane> i know that intel
[01:54] <joel> okay, here's how to do it from a console providing you dont have it yet: su -c 'echo "nameserver 123.123.123.123" >> /etc/resolv.conf'
[01:55] <Fizzbane> so Ctrl+O saves?
[01:55] <intelikey> Fizzbane and just above that there is an information line that will ask you questions as you give commands.
[01:55] <joel> dell190: of course you need to change the ip adress to your nameserver.
[01:55] <joel> :)
[01:55] <intelikey> Fizzbane yes.
[01:55] <Fizzbane> ok
[01:56] <Fizzbane> The terminal came up with the file name and i clicked enter to save. It says wrote 153 lines. Did i do everything correctly?
[01:57] <joel> dell190: ...in the previous example (forgot to tag it with your name)
[01:57] <userund> Fizzbane: well, if you didn't, I hope you made a backup
[01:57] <intelikey> how should we know ?  you're the one looking at it.
[01:57] <Fizzbane> im also the new linux user
[01:58] <Fizzbane> I guess ill test it and see if it worked.
[01:58] <dell190> isn't possible to drag and drop it in that folder??
[01:58] <intelikey> it wrote what is in the buffer all 153 lines to the file listed in the information line
[01:58] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you can paste your menu.lst to the pastebin so we can have a look first, if you want. Paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:59] <Fizzbane> how do i paste in that?
[01:59] <igorjr> jhutchins: yeah, i prepared it that way, i was just wondering, whether i was able to use the linux-partitions too
[01:59] <userund> !pastebin | Fizzbane
[01:59] <ubotu> Fizzbane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you can open it in a graphical editor with the command: kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <Fizzbane> ok...
[02:00] <Sanne> Fizzbane: then just copy the text and paste it to the website.
[02:01] <intelikey> igorjr there is a e2fsexplorer.exe for M$ that can read from ext# fs's as long as they are in normal partitions.   but it's kinda like linux writing to ntfs.   should be used readonly or with extreem caution.
[02:01] <Fizzbane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9030/ there it is
[02:03] <Sanne> Fizzbane: the only thing you edited is the last entry for windows?
[02:03] <Fizzbane> and the hiddenmenu
[02:03] <joel> dell190: No, it should not be unless you are running as root via "kdesu"
[02:03] <intelikey> (sda1) <<< unless that is in /boot/grub/devices  i don't think that will work.
[02:03] <igorjr> intelikey: thx
[02:04] <dell190> ok i will try the thing you gave me  BRB
[02:04] <Fizzbane> how do i add it to the /boot/grub/devices?
[02:04] <bxnp> joel: well it did not change anything
[02:04] <intelikey> should be something like (hd1,0)
[02:04] <bxnp> anyway, i learned already to live with it
[02:04] <Fizzbane> (sda1) is the hd that my windows is on
[02:04] <bxnp> maybe when i do a new installation of kubuntu it will go away
[02:04] <Fizzbane> (hd0) is where linux is
[02:04] <igorjr> even though linux tends to make me crazy, i like the attitude of you guys
[02:04] <intelikey> yes but grub doesn't use real addressing.
[02:05] <Sanne> Fizzbane: I can paste you the lines I used when I had Windows 98, maybe you can adapt it to your situation.
[02:05] <bxnp> cause this is kubuntu edgy from breezy
[02:05] <bxnp> so maybe there went something wrong in the proces joel
[02:05] <Fizzbane> (hd0,0) is linux sorry
[02:05] <intelikey> so look in /boot/grub/devices   and see if there is a listing for (hd1,0)
[02:05] <Sanne> Fizzbane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/
[02:05] <joel> bxnp: Ah, yeah. There's hope. :)
[02:05] <Fizzbane> Sanne: my linux and windows are on different hds
[02:06] <intelikey> yes.  so look and see
[02:06] <Fizzbane> how do i open /boot/grub/devices?
[02:06] <Sanne> Fizzbane: still, there are differences I don't know if they are important. And sda is not what grub uses, listen to intelikey :)
[02:06] <joel> uh, wait a minute now. Does kubuntu not set a root password by default?
[02:06] <saw2434> Hey, I just bought an external Hard Drive that I want to install kubuntu on.  It's is preformatted as a FAT32 system which I believe Ubuntu can't be installed on.  Can I convert it to NTFS when I install kubuntu or do I need to do it in Windows?
[02:06] <intelikey> Fizzbane cat /boot/grub/devices  in the konsole
[02:07] <shahid> hi does anyone know if there is a Mepis channel?
[02:07] <intelikey> joel no
[02:07] <intelikey> !root | joel
[02:07] <ubotu> joel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <joel> crap, I just used su to help dell190.
[02:07] <jhutchins> saw2434: First, you actually can install linux on fat32, but it's not usually a good idea.  Second, installing it on NTFS would require quite a bit of custom work.
[02:08] <Fizzbane> I keep getting "file not found"
[02:08] <intelikey> Fizzbane is there a listing in the devices*     add *
[02:08] <saw2434> jhutchins: So what kind of custom work?
[02:08] <jhutchins> saw2434: The preferred filesystem for k/ubuntu is a unix filesystem known as ext3.
[02:08] <saw2434> ok
[02:08] <intelikey> seems like it is  devices.list  or some such...
[02:09] <jhutchins> saw2434: You'd have to set up the installer's kernel to have write access to NTFS filesystems, among other things.
[02:09] <charlie5> hi folks ... just updated kubu and my external usb drives are no longer being mounted ... would this be a general prob, or a problem local to my setup ?
[02:09] <Fizzbane> oh now you tell me
[02:09] <saw2434> jhutchins: So should I be able to use Gparted to just format it to ext3?
[02:09] <intelikey> grub is too weak to boot my system so i can't look and see...
[02:09] <intelikey> it's all from memory.
[02:09] <jhutchins> saw2434: I think that's what the installer uses.
[02:09] <Fizzbane> nice memory
[02:10] <intelikey> you'll get old some day.
[02:10] <jhutchins> saw2434: Could use cfdisk or fdisk.
[02:10] <Fizzbane> haha not for along time
[02:10] <jhutchins> saw2434: and mkfs.
[02:10] <Fizzbane> for a long time*
[02:10] <intelikey> sooner than you think
[02:10] <Fizzbane> I'm 14
[02:10] <intelikey> sooner than you think
[02:10] <jhutchins> intelikey: lilo?
[02:10] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah
[02:10] <saw2434> jhutchins: yeah, however when I first tryed doing it (with a brand new preformatted in Fat32 HD) I got an error saying the ext3 file system creation in partition 3 of SCS13 ... failed.
[02:11] <Fizzbane> I just want to boot windows!
[02:11] <saw2434> jhutchins: are those linux programs?
[02:11] <VanessaE> anyone over here know much about using X in 8bpp mode?
[02:11] <Sanne> Fizzbane: I would just try my entries, according to the grub manual you need the three lines: 1. rootnoverify (your_hd) 2. makeactive 3. chainloader +1
[02:11] <intelikey> so is there a listing for the disk ?
[02:11] <jhutchins> saw2434: Yes.  The DOS fdisk won't work with non-MS filesystem types.
[02:11] <Fizzbane> cat /boot/grub/devices does not work
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: If I were doing it manually, I would use fdisk to change the partition type, then I would use mkfs to "format" it.
[02:12] <intelikey> VanessaE !i  but i have used that  256 colour.
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: I would also make it all one partition, but that's just my preference.
[02:12] <saw2434> jhutchins: alright... so I do those in windows?
[02:12] <VanessaE> is it normal to only get what looks like 7bpp (128ish colors) with a StaticColor visual?
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: You'll either need a boot disk or you'll need to install a bootloader on your default boot drive.
[02:12] <Fizzbane> I'll be back in a bit. I need some supper.
[02:12] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: I would boot the the Live CD.
[02:13] <saw2434> jhutchins: so they're linux then
[02:13] <jhutchins> yes.
[02:13] <jhutchins> (There aer a few BIOSes that allow you to pick your boot device, that's another possibility.)
[02:13] <saw2434> jhutchins: So when I boot from the live CD, how would I use Fdisk?
[02:13] <intelikey> VanessaE yes it is.  looks pretty krappy.
[02:14] <VanessaE> shit.
[02:14] <VanessaE> how do I fix it?
[02:14] <intelikey> at least when i used it...       go to 15 bit mode  :)
[02:14] <VanessaE> can't
[02:14] <intelikey> then i don't know.
[02:14] <VanessaE> running wine to run an 8bpp app :)
[02:15] <intelikey> and it wont run in an 15bit env ?
[02:15] <b-rad> good evening everyone :)  has anyone found a solution for no audio for an intel HD audio chipset?  I've tried everything in the forums to no avail....
[02:15] <jhutchins> saw2434: you open a console, sudo fdisk /dev/XXX, where XXX is the device you want.
[02:15] <VanessaE> haven't tried 15 bpp yet
[02:16] <saw2434> jhutchins: so I think mine was sdb
[02:16] <jhutchins> saw2434: Most likely the USB drive will be /dev/sda as long as you don't have SCSI or SATA drives.
[02:16] <intelikey> i'd try it.   15 is pretty flexable   works where 16 wont.
[02:16] <saw2434> jhutchins: My computers (win xp) hard drive was sda
[02:17] <jhutchins> saw2434: Then it'll be the next one, /dev/sdb.
[02:17] <VanessaE> nope, no good
[02:17] <VanessaE> it explicitly wants 8bpp
[02:17] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok, so I boot of the kubuntu live cd, and then open a console and type "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"?
[02:17] <intelikey> then use 8 and hope for someone that knows....
[02:17] <intelikey> ;/
[02:17] <VanessaE> heh
[02:18] <VanessaE> well thanks just the same :)
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: fdisk -l will show you the current drives and partitions.
[02:18] <intelikey> np
[02:18] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: You might try sudo cfdisk, fdisk is a bit opaque.
[02:18] <intelikey> as user sometimes shows nothing.
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: cfdisk has menus.
[02:18] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok
[02:18] <jhutchins> intelikey: I presume fdisk and cfdisk are both available on the CD?
[02:19] <intelikey> yes should be.
[02:19] <intelikey> were as of dapper
[02:19] <compilerwriter> Is it possible to specify that you will allow any host on a network to use a given box for an x session?  IE 192.168.0.*
[02:19] <compilerwriter> brb
[02:19] <jhutchins> gtg
[02:19] <VanessaE> I'd keep googling for this (been at it for hours now) but I'm running out of ideas for search terms that might give me something other than source code snippets :)
[02:20] <bxnp> tcpwrappers compilerwriter
[02:20] <saw2434> jhutchins: thanks for your help
[02:20] <pete> adept crashed on me - now when i try to bring it back up it says something else is using the processes.....   how can i get it working again?
[02:20] <intelikey> compilerwriter i think ranges.  [0-255]     but i'm network illiterate
[02:20] <stdin> !aptfix | pete
[02:20] <ubotu> pete: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:21] <ODC> Hey there, I'm a *nix newbie and am installing Kubuntu for the first time, can someone help me?
[02:21] <userund> !ask | ODC
[02:21] <ubotu> ODC: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <compilerwriter> intelikey: Can a person get away with specifying it in the kdmrc as I have proposed?
[02:21] <bxnp> compilerwriter: http://www.clug.org/presentations/security/tcpwrappers.html
[02:21] <ODC> okay, I burned the iso, put it in the cd tray, it loaded the Kubuntu menu and I selected "Start or Install..."
[02:22] <ODC> it went to a progress bar for a bit, but not its just a black screen with a white blinking cursor
[02:22] <ODC> is it still installing?
[02:22] <shahid> Does anyone know of a SimplyMepis Help Channel like this one?? Whether one exists/?
[02:22] <compilerwriter> I should also say I am doing it via xdmcp I guess.
[02:22] <stdin> shahid: tried #simplymepis   ?
[02:22] <compilerwriter> brb
[02:22] <intelikey> ODC never has started installing anything.   the graphic user interface on the liveCD has failed you.
[02:22] <shahid> nope didnt try that thanks will now
[02:23] <ODC> oh... so what do I do?  Try again?
[02:23] <intelikey> !alternate | ODC
[02:23] <ubotu> ODC: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:23] <Thehound666> Hello. I am getting upset with my isp dropping my connections less than 1 second several times a day and having to type commands to reconnect all my ssh sessions. Any way to automate reconnects?
[02:23] <shahid> stdin nobody in there :(
[02:23] <stdin> ODC: you could try loading in Safe Graphics mode, an option on that menu you saw at boot
[02:23] <napsterman> hi. i dont know whats wrong but i cant for the life of me understand how to run kismet at all ive used adept to install it. if i cant get it too work i might go back to xp-pro if i cant get this resolved. can some please tell me what im doing wrong?
[02:24] <ODC> okay, I think it was the liveCD, yeah okay I"ll try the safe graphics mode
[02:24] <ODC> running to other room to try brb
[02:24] <pete> ubotu thanks
[02:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:24] <intelikey> that "For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD. "  <<< is so lame.
[02:24] <pete> lmao
[02:25] <stdin> shahid: maybe ask in the main mepis room, #mepis
[02:25] <intelikey> but why not it !worksforme so you should all use it.
[02:25] <joel> dell190: How's it going?
[02:25] <shahid> awesome thanks
[02:25] <Thehound666> my hand is starting to fall off at typing ssh blah blah blah on every disconnect
[02:25] <pete> ok, im trying the latest 'alpha' install disk, and adept brings up this window that says debconf, asking me to insert an integer between -20 and 19.... what gives?
[02:25] <shahid> stdon how do i add mepis channel or any other channel for that matter to favourite channels?
[02:26] <shahid> stdin* woops
[02:26] <stdin> shahid: in what client ?
[02:26] <ODC> okay, I selected the safe graphics mode option, its sitting at the blue bar bouncing back and forth
[02:26] <shahid> konversation
[02:26] <intelikey> ODC how much ram ?
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[02:26] <joel> dell190: I need to get to bed. And I forgot that kubuntu does not use 'su' but 'sudo'
[02:27] <ODC> interlikey: 1 GB
[02:27] <joel> dell190: revised command for sudo: sudo sh -c "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx >> /etc/resolv.conf"
[02:27] <Thehound666> actually the hack for that is give root a password and do sudo su root
[02:27] <intelikey> well that's not the problem.
[02:27] <joel> replace xxxx with correct numbers, and use your password for auth.
[02:27] <stdin> shahid: File -> Server List -> (Choose the server) Edit -> Auto join channels, Add
[02:27] <ODC> okay follow up, I'm going to be installing WoW, I got the directions to install it in Ubuntu and it says to use WINE.  Does it come installed or is Kubuntu a similar thing?
[02:27] <shahid> ahh thank u
[02:28] <intelikey> ODC i still say get the alternate.   use the text mode installer.
[02:28] <stdin> joel, dell190: easier to just to "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf"
[02:28] <ODC> okay, so install Kubuntu and then WINE?
[02:28] <intelikey> ODC wine is not installed by default.  but is avalable.
[02:29] <ODC> gotcha, thanks
[02:29] <pete> ODC- that should work but be warned - a lot of people have been banned doing what you are trying to do
[02:29] <joel> stdin: Is it? :)
[02:29] <Fizzbane> How can i open up grubs devices?
[02:29] <intelikey> pete ?
[02:29] <pete> yes?
[02:29] <stdin> joel: yeah, rather than sudo -c "echo this and that >> some place"
[02:29] <intelikey> banned for trying to install ?
[02:30] <ODC> wtf okay it just failed in safe graphics mode
[02:30] <ODC> what now?
[02:30] <pete> you know, i might have not known what you were talking about, I assume WoW is World of Warcraft
[02:30] <stdin> joel: plus you'll have yo escape charactors if you want to add other ones to a file, like a >, # or "
[02:30] <intelikey> use the alternate install CD.....
[02:31] <Thehound666> is my question in some FAQ somewhere or something? is that why no replies?
[02:31] <napsterman> oh and btw im runing kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1200 with 30gb hd and 1gb ram. so far i like linux the bat life is longer and lots of diff programs to run . but im new to linux.
[02:31] <intelikey> pete probably.   but why would anyone be banned for trying to install/run that ?
[02:31] <pete> if it is, the blizzard servers think that their game running through wine violates user agreements and ban the users......... but sorry if you were talking about something else
[02:31] <joel> stdin: I dont really see any difference, you cant do echo >>
[02:31] <Thehound666> many MMO ban you for any sort of mod
[02:32] <ODC> yeah I am talking about WoW
[02:32] <joel> stdin: err.. well okay, it work.
[02:32] <intelikey> oh.  a server ban.   i thought you meant an irc ban   ha ha at me.
[02:32] <slyfox> does kopete file transfer work in msn ? It does nto for me .
[02:32] <pete> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:32] <joel> bah, I should have logged off. :)
[02:32] <pete> awe shit ignore that
[02:32] <ODC> crap okay so I need to burn a new cd
[02:32] <pete> http://infernix.net/wowban/
[02:32] <pete> theres a link to one case
[02:32] <intelikey> ODC that would be the best way to install  imo.
[02:32] <pete> http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/15/1334241
[02:33] <pete> and another
[02:33] <soda> wouldn't it be easier to packet shape and do some simple hacks running on an emulator?
[02:33] <soda> speed hax for example?
[02:33] <Fizzbane> what does adding "makeactive" to grub's menu do?
[02:33] <userund> wine isn't an emulator.
[02:33] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator    to be more specific
[02:34] <stdin> was that: Wine Is Not an Emulator? :P
[02:34] <Sanne> Thehound666: I guess nobody knows the answer to your question. Usually the nice people here answer, even if it is in an faq :)
[02:34] <soda> w
[02:34] <intelikey> Fizzbane sets the partition active   aka bootable.
[02:34] <joel> stdin: sudo sh -c "echo '>_< ^_^ ' "
[02:34] <joel> stdin: no escape characters yet :)
[02:34] <stdin> joel: yeah, but you used a ', that's cheating :P
[02:34] <Fizzbane> so i want to add that to the windows selection i just set up?
[02:35] <intelikey> can't hurt anything.
[02:35] <Fizzbane> ok thank you
[02:35] <stdin> joel: tee is just nicer, as you don't need to run 3 shells
[02:35] <Fizzbane> and i checked the devices and my sda1 was hd1
[02:35] <joel> stdin: haha :) well... it's always nice to have different ways of doing the same thing. And with bash and c.o. there's 1000+ ways.
[02:36] <ODC> pete: I had read that one, but it seems like it was probably the keyboard
[02:36] <ODC> not WINE
[02:36] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: For passwordless login: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH#head-f06532af79917a251e68c7ccf567cb5c399e0aba
[02:36] <ODC> but thats not confirmed of course
[02:36] <intelikey> i don't know for sure about grub  but lilo also supplies boot-as=0x80    # means make it c:
[02:36] <Thehound666> password isn't the issue
[02:36] <Thehound666> I just want it to reconnect upon disconnecting
[02:36] <Thehound666> instead of me having to type commands in 10 windows
[02:37] <Fizzbane> Well thank you intellikey. I am going to go see if i can boot windows now.
[02:37] <pete> odc yeah i just read through it and that seems to be the case...  good luck man
[02:37] <ODC> pete: thanks for the concern though, I appreciate the heads up
[02:39] <intelikey> Fizzbane bet ya half of nothing it don't.  the error will be that (sda1) is invalid entry.
[02:39] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Instead of "ssh <target>" use "while true; do ssh <target>; sleep 5; done"
[02:40] <Fizzbane> I changed the sda1 to hd1. Grub devices said sda1 is hd1
[02:40] <intelikey> or until false ;do blah ;done
[02:40] <Thehound666> I am sorry I fail to understand
[02:40] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you need hd1,<partition_number>
[02:40] <Thehound666> normally I must retype ssh -D port username@host
[02:40] <intelikey> Fizzbane k it should work then.
[02:40] <Thehound666> then password
[02:40] <Fizzbane> hd1 and partition #?
[02:41] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Then you just type while true; do ssh -D port username@host; sleep 5; done
[02:41] <Sanne> Fizzbane: look again at my sample, please, and adapt to your situation: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/
[02:41] <intelikey> yes unless you want to pass the boot process off to sda and let the boot loader on that disk take over
[02:41] <Thehound666> I just add that to the command when I login?
[02:41] <intelikey> either will work
[02:42] <ODC> okay, while I was downloading the alternate I ran the CD check, its coming up with a bunch of these errors towards the end:
[02:42] <intelikey> Thehound666 what he is sujesting is to loop the ssh command.  so as soon as it closes it will respawn.
[02:42] <Fizzbane> Im not sure if there is a boot loader on the other hd. and if there is it might not have the windows on it.
[02:43] <ODC> Buffer I/O error on device hdd
[02:43] <intelikey> ah a bad burn.
[02:43] <intelikey> you made a coster
[02:43] <compilerwriter> Alrighty then.  I guess my question should have been can a person specify any port on a given network in the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess file like 192.168.0.* ?  Or is that some risky stuff?
[02:44] <intelikey> ODC one tidbit of advice on installation iso  burn slowly.
[02:44] <Fizzbane> The first partition on a hd would be (hd1,0) right?
[02:44] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Or use "until [[ $failed != 0 ] ]  ; do <ssh command>; failed=$?; done
[02:44] <ODC> intelikey: Thanks will do that
[02:44] <intelikey> correct Fizzbane
[02:44] <Sanne> Fizzbane: yes, think so
[02:44] <Fizzbane> thank you
[02:45] <compilerwriter> intelikey: ODC:  That is the truth I had trouble with disks I burned until I finally burned them at something like 8x.
[02:45] <Thehound666> can anyone pastebin me the exact way to do it say with port 1111 name anyone host 127.0.0.1 as an example if it's not too much trouble?
[02:45] <Thehound666> I am poor learner
[02:45] <Fizzbane> I am off to try out grub now. wish me luck.
[02:45] <ArthurB> Hi everyone
[02:45] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Just replace <ssh command> with the command you use now.
[02:45] <ArthurB> after some upgrades to feisty
[02:45] <Sanne> Fizzbane: good luck :)
[02:45] <ArthurB> I find that my lvm won't work anymore
[02:45] <Fizzbane> thanks. bye
[02:45] <compilerwriter> Break a leg Fizzbane
[02:45] <ArthurB> if I boot from a livecd, all is fine, I can mount my lvm partitions in /dev/mapper
[02:46] <intelikey> until false ;do ssh anyone@127.0.0.1:1111 ;sleep 3 ;done
[02:46] <ArthurB> but the boot from grub goes fine
[02:46] <ArthurB> until it says it can't find /dev/mapper
[02:46] <intelikey> Thehound666 ^
[02:46] <ODC> okay reburning at 20x now, less than half the speed as before
[02:46] <ArthurB> anyone knows about that issue ?
[02:47] <intelikey> 8x might even be good.
[02:47] <compilerwriter> ODC Highly suggest you have more patience than that.
[02:47] <ODC> okay well I'll try this cd since its already burning, if that doesn't work i'll do it even slower
[02:47] <compilerwriter> ODC intelikey types correctly.
[02:47] <ArthurB> I think mdamd messed things up
[02:48] <intelikey> raid... yuch.
[02:50] <compilerwriter> No biters on my Xaccess question?  I guess I shall just have to try it.
[02:50] <intelikey> ArthurB cant find /dev/mapper  isn't a grub error.   initramfs.img maybe.
[02:50] <ODC> okay trying the 20x burn wish me luck
[02:50] <ArthurB> intelikey: looks like it from google
[02:50] <intelikey> tre bon chance
[02:50] <ArthurB> ok
[02:51] <compilerwriter> !fr | intelikey
[02:51] <ubotu> intelikey: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:51] <ArthurB> I tried update-initramfs -u
[02:51] <ArthurB> and I get mdadm errors
[02:51] <ArthurB> I mean warnings
[02:51] <ArthurB> W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[02:51] <ArthurB> and so on
[02:51] <bitmaker> i need un tutorial to create dc++ server with ubuntu
[02:51] <bitmaker> plas hlp me
[02:53] <ODC> yeah, that 20x didn't even boot
[02:53] <hazard_> bitmaker, find some manual about the server software, and read it.
[02:53] <ODC> 4x okay?
[02:53] <aleska> could anyone tell me how, in konquerer, when browsing files to make a single left-click only select a file and not actually "launch" it?
[02:54] <Thehound666> I tried it in Konsole and it opened up a session
[02:54] <Thehound666> now it will reconnect when my isp has pms?
[02:55] <Sanne> aleska: It's somewhere in System settings or KDE Control Center, I'll find it for you, sec.
[02:55] <intelikey> ArthurB it's fstab/mount addressing.    /dev/mapper/* is the addressing for the / (root fs)  but in the initramfs.img there is no /dev/mapper/  so you need to either change the boot options to address the correct device or build an initramfs.img that includse /dev/mapper/* listings for the file system.
[02:55] <stdin> aleska: Kmenu .> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double-click to open files and folders"
[02:55] <stdin> Sanne: found it
[02:55] <Sanne> aleska: listen to stdin (thanks) :)
[02:55] <intelikey> and mdadm is probably the root cause of the issue. yes.
[02:56] <aleska> many thanks!
[02:56] <Sanne> aleska: you're welcome
[02:56] <ODC> okay burning at 4x
[02:57] <aleska> well that was easy enough
[02:57] <intelikey> might want to md5 that iso also ODC ...  8*|
[02:58] <Sanne> aleska: :)
[02:58] <ODC> I don't see that option
[02:59] <ArthurB> intelikey:  do I *need* mdamd for lvm?
[03:00] <intelikey> not unless you raid something or do append mounting.  as per order of questions
[03:00] <intelikey> ArthurB is that sata drive ?
[03:01] <aleska> I don't know if this is normal/expected, but I've noticed that my keyboards volumes control doesn't really work in kubuntu, but does under gnome.  Shows volume toggling between 0% and 10% only, yet sound doesn't actually change.  :-/
[03:01] <aleska> anyone experienced this?
[03:01] <ArthurB> intelikey: no
[03:02] <ArthurB> intelikey: but whem I apt-get removed mdadm it remove lvm-common and lvm2 as well
[03:02] <ArthurB> that's why I'm asking...
[03:02] <ArthurB> also in /etc/fstab I have strange line with UUID=....
[03:02] <intelikey> ArthurB this is not the "best" answer but it's a simular problem + work around. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409595
[03:03] <Sanne> ODC: md5sum is a unique checksum calculated for a file. There's an md5sum file in the ftp directory where you downloaded the iso. youwould then do: 'md5sum your_iso_file' to calculate the md5sum of your downloaded file and compare it with the corresponding entry in the md5sum file from the ftp directory. If it doesn't match, the iso is borked.
[03:04] <ODC> Sanne: Ah thank you
[03:05] <Sanne> ODC: np ;)
[03:05] <intelikey> ok i'm out again.  see yous guys laters.
[03:06] <Sanne> bye intelikey
[03:10] <ODC> Sanne: How do I get the md5sum from windows?
[03:10] <ODC> I have the one for the file before I burn
[03:10] <ODC> just need a way to get it from the cd
[03:11] <Sanne> ODC: oops. I guess you would need to look for a md5sum calculator for windows.
[03:11] <doppelganger_> hi guys..  doesn't anyone here have vmware workstation installed as host
[03:11] <Sanne> ODC: oh, from the cd?
[03:11] <Flying_Eagle> dont the ubuntu-cds include a self-sanity-check you can choose when you boot em?
[03:11] <doppelganger_> i need one file..  or just a pastebin on one config file, that's it
[03:12] <ODC> Sanne: Correct, I'm burning it to CD, its almost done, I just need to get the MD5 of it and all I have is Windows
[03:12] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, im quite sure, there is this sanity-check
[03:12] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Yes, but it takes quite a while and the first time I did it it took until the very end
[03:12] <Sanne> ODC: there are md5sum files on the cd, but I guess that's what's the self test is for, it checks itself. So if you do the self check from the boot menu of the cd (if it boots), it will then test.
[03:13] <ODC> sanne: k
[03:13] <Sanne> ODC: if you want to check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded in Windows, you need a windows md5sum calculator.
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> ... it took till the end. i should have bet on that...
[03:14] <ODC> k
[03:14] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Murphy's Law
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> :P
[03:15] <Sanne> ODC: seems there are some: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q=md5sum+windows
[03:15] <stdin> !md5sum
[03:15] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[03:15] <stdin> ^^ includes windows instructions
[03:16] <Sanne> I'm *always* forgetting the bot! thanks stdin.
[03:16] <stdin> :)
[03:18] <|Daisuke_Ido|> !iso
[03:18] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:18] <Flying_Eagle> why are metallica making such good metal?
[03:18] <ODC> alright, this one actually booted, i'm running the cd checker now
[03:18] <|Daisuke_Ido|> offtopic, but are we thinking of the same metallica?
[03:19] <Sanne> ODC: woot
[03:19] <Flying_Eagle> maybe. i didnt find anything to this in the faq ;)
[03:20] <Flying_Eagle> i just tuned in orion - and it just burst me away...
[03:21] <aleska> any chance any of you have insights as to why my keyboard volume control doesn't seem to actually change sound volumes?  (btw - only used  KDE for a few days now)
[03:21] <|Daisuke_Ido|> track name?
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> orion
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> like...
[03:23] <Flying_Eagle> aleska, i dont, but perhaps the keyword "kmilo" plus the ubuntu-wiki may help you on
[03:23] <coreymon77> guys
[03:23] <coreymon77> whats that file again
[03:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> okay, that's *really* old metallica, back when they did make good music
[03:23] <coreymon77>  /etc/interfaces or something like that
[03:23] <coreymon77> where the wifi settings are kept
[03:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> like...  1983 or somn
[03:24] <ODC> awesome, cd check came out clean, its installing now
[03:24] <Flying_Eagle> |Daisuke_Ido|, st.anger was for fun (like steal this album by SOAD) and the next one will just be amazingererizzleler
[03:24] <Sanne> ODC: double woot!
[03:24] <coreymon77> guys, where are the wifi interface settings kept
[03:24] <aleska> Flying_Eagle: I'll check it out; thx!
[03:25] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, /etc/network/interfaces
[03:25] <Flying_Eagle> plus extra-shit in the /etc/network subdirs
[03:25] <ODC> about how long is the kubuntu install?
[03:26] <Flying_Eagle> depends on cd drive and hd
[03:26] <coreymon77> auto ath0
[03:26] <coreymon77> iface ath0 inet static
[03:26] <coreymon77> address 192.168.1.67
[03:26] <coreymon77> netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:26] <coreymon77> gateway 192.168.1.1
[03:26] <coreymon77> wireless-essid cohens
[03:26] <coreymon77> wireless-key 1a1e28f24d
[03:26] <coreymon77> does that mean it will start automatically
[03:26] <stdin> !paste
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <coreymon77> with boot
[03:26] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, si
[03:26] <coreymon77> okay
[03:26] <coreymon77> good
[03:27] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, on this machine the copy-part of the install takes about a quarter hour
[03:27] <Flying_Eagle> the complete install about half an hour - depending on the beta-status of the partitioning-tool ;/
[03:29] <Flying_Eagle> compared to the hours i spend to hunt a fistful of shit during the winxp install i love linux-installs
[03:29] <Flying_Eagle> even xandros ;)
[03:30] <desi007> is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/
[03:30] <coreymon77> guys
[03:30] <coreymon77> how od i install the newer java
[03:30] <coreymon77> the one on the apt repos is out of date
[03:31] <stdin> coreymon77: you mean version 6?
[03:31] <coreymon77> i meant jre
[03:31] <stdin> coreymon77: yeah, jre version 6?
[03:31] <coreymon77> whatever the newest sun-jre is
[03:32] <Sanne> night all
[03:32] <stdin> coreymon77: just enable the backports repo
[03:32] <stdin> coreymon77: and make sure you have multiverse in it too
[03:32] <coreymon77> but thats java 5
[03:33] <stdin> coreymon77: no, not in backports it isn't
[03:33] <stdin> !info sun-java6-jre dapper-backports
[03:33] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[03:33] <stdin> same for edgy too
[03:33] <coreymon77> oh crap
[03:33] <coreymon77> i dont have the backports repos
[03:33] <coreymon77> what are they
[03:33] <coreymon77> ?
[03:34] <stdin> !backports
[03:34] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:35] <desi007> is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/
[03:36] <computrius> I am having issues installing ndiswrapper.
[03:36] <computrius> I installed ndiswrapper utils, and there were no errors
[03:37] <computrius> did ndiswrapper -i <driver> successfull..
[03:37] <computrius> no errors
[03:37] <computrius> did ndiswrapper -m, good
[03:37] <computrius> ndiswrapper -l good
[03:37] <computrius> finally modprobe, and it works.. However, no interface ever shows
[03:37] <pinoshaw> ola amigos
[03:37] <computrius> and ideas?
[03:37] <pinoshaw> tem algum brasileiro ai?
[03:39] <computrius> for some reason usbcore seems to be claiming the ndiswrapper module
[03:39] <computrius> dmesg |grep ndis outputs: "usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper"
[03:39] <rbrunhuber> Can i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?
[03:40] <rbrunhuber> Can i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?
[03:40] <dewey> good day mates
[03:40] <computrius> anyone have any clue what the issue could be?
[03:41] <coreymon77> computrius: are you sure you needed to use ndkiswrapper, because if you dont have to, you shouldnt
[03:42] <computrius> positive
[03:42] <computrius> there were no drivers detected for my card
[03:42] <computrius> dwl 520
[03:42] <computrius> im kind of curious why usbcore would claim the module
[03:43] <coreymon77> computrius: thats why i made sure i got a wireless card with an atheros chipset, they work automatically out of the box
[03:43] <coreymon77> computrius: w/o ndis
[03:43] <kubuntero> hi coreymon77
[03:43] <coreymon77> kubuntero: hi
[03:44] <computrius> perhaps, I had it working at one point under fedora
[03:44] <computrius> but fedora isnt exactly a good solution if you dont want crap
[03:44] <kubuntero> jhutchins: Hello :)
[03:44] <coreymon77> computrius: lol
[03:44] <coreymon77> kubuntero: you need something?
[03:44] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, liked that one :D
[03:44] <computrius> if I could do it without ndis, trust me, I would jump on it
[03:44] <coreymon77> Flying_Eagle: ???
[03:45] <kubuntero> coreymon77: Help
[03:45] <ODC> alright, great news, Ubuntu is now installed.
[03:45] <ODC> Kubuntu even
[03:45] <Flying_Eagle> i almost suggested you to stick with fedora...
[03:45] <ODC> Now... how do I install wine?
[03:45] <ODC> WINE
[03:45] <computrius> DDC: congratz, but installation is only 40% of the battle
[03:45] <computrius> :)
[03:45] <kubuntero> !wine | ODC
[03:45] <ODC> oh god
[03:45] <ubotu> ODC: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:45] <swanfl> wine is in adept
[03:45] <ODC> what now?
[03:46] <ODC> I'm applying all the Adept stuff right now
[03:46] <kubuntero> ODC: What are you trying to do?
[03:46] <swanfl> or use sudo apt-get wine
[03:46] <ODC> I didn't see WINE in it now
[03:46] <coreymon77> kubuntero: what do you need?
[03:46] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, what about reading?
[03:46] <ODC> Kubuntero: Play WoW
[03:46] <swanfl> do you have all the repositories?
[03:46] <ODC> swanfl: dunno
[03:46] <Flying_Eagle> youre asking already explained crap here the whole time
[03:46] <computrius> agg.. why do I always have the rare problems that no-one else has or knows the solution to?
[03:46] <coreymon77> computrius: believe me, you dont
[03:47] <coreymon77> computrius: you wouldnt have believe my sound problems
[03:47] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Well, maybe to someone who plays in the environment the whole time, but as I've done none of it, the amount of info that you say is so easily readable, is in fact, not
[03:47] <Flying_Eagle> there are a shitload of tutorials in the web, ODC
[03:47] <kubuntero> !wow
[03:47] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:47] <swanfl> o hok
[03:47] <kubuntero> coreymon77: still the same problem from early in the day
[03:47] <computrius> funny, on fedora sound didnt work, wireless did
[03:47] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, there is ubuntu.com with an incredible readable wiki
[03:47] <computrius> now on ubuntu sound does work, wireless doesnt
[03:47] <coreymon77> kubuntero: which was...
[03:48] <coreymon77> kubuntero: remind me
[03:48] <kubuntero> I want to mount the /home partition on my drive as the /home of the FHS used by the Live CD
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Flying_Eagle: language please
[03:52] <kubuntero> !language | Flying_Eagle
[03:52] <ubotu> Flying_Eagle: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <Flying_Eagle> yes, i know
[03:52] <coreymon77> kubuntero: okay
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i can tell you are frustrated but everyone gets frustrated. users looking for support, people giving support...etc.
[03:52] <coreymon77> kubuntero: cant do that
[03:53] <driggett> okay I'm back, using Konversation now
[03:53] <coreymon77> kubuntero: what you can do is mount your /home directory to another location
[03:53] <Flying_Eagle> Admiral_Chicago, i know. whether i am polite or quiet
[03:53] <kubuntero> coreymon77: can I mount my / for use by the Live CD?
[03:53] <coreymon77> kubuntero: nope
[03:54] <computrius> are there drivers for prism based Wlan cards?
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: but you cant mount it to a different location
[03:54] <tarnold> hey im installing the gstreamer packages with adept- will they work with the defualt movie players and such?
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, yes
[03:54] <tarnold> like kaffiene?
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: follow these insctructions
[03:54] <computrius> specifically dwl 520
[03:54] <kubuntero> coreymon77: can I mount it somewhere else and make that my path?
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> i had prism 2 and prism54 working
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> latter with firmware
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: not sure
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: why would you need to?
[03:54] <computrius> where do I get firmware?
[03:55] <Flying_Eagle> if not supplied by ubuntu (like for acx) then in the web i suggest...
[03:55] <coreymon77> kubuntero: ill help you moutn the partitions
[03:55] <coreymon77> kubuntero: open a konsole window\
[03:56] <computrius> either way apparently ubuntu doesnt come with prism drivers
[03:57] <coreymon77> kubuntero: is one open?
[03:57] <kubuntero> coreymon77: I can mount them the issue I'm having is that the live cd user is 999 and my UID is 1000
[03:57] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, what about the "restricted modules"?
[03:57] <kubuntero> I guess I can copy the config files over and change the UID :(
[03:58] <coreymon77> kubuntero: i guess
[03:58] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp
[03:58] <Flying_Eagle> i got a pc with orinoco/prism card and it worked out of the box, computrius
[03:58] <coreymon77> kubuntero: if you can mount them, whats the problem
[03:58] <push2882> and with kubuntu its the same thing
[03:58] <kubuntero> coreymon77: I just told you :)
[03:59] <computrius> hrrm
[03:59] <computrius> maybe feisty is different
[04:00] <computrius> I am looking in /lib/modules/....
[04:00] <kubuntero> Argh I just locked my self out of sudo
[04:00] <computrius> and nothing to the effect of prism
[04:00] <kubuntero> Rebooting
[04:00] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me
[04:02] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me
[04:02] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, i dont know the dwl 520, but if its a prism2-card then the driver is called orinoco
[04:03] <dewey> is flash 9 available in kubuntu?
[04:03] <Linux_Malay> Assalamualaikum w.b.t.
[04:03] <Flying_Eagle> dewey, yes
[04:04] <computrius> no errors with modprobe, but no device made either
[04:05] <Flying_Eagle> push2882, lesson 1: when you get an error-message and dont know how to handle it: google for it
[04:05] <Flying_Eagle> first hit should help
[04:07] <Krishean> ok, this is probably a simple question, but why can't i install xmms-mp4 or xmms-flac with apt-get?
[04:07] <dewey> Flying_Eagle, where is it?
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> i think in some experimental repository at least for dapper, dewey
[04:08] <Krishean> its on the packages.ubuntu.com site, but it dosen't show up if i do dpkg -l 'xmms*'
[04:08] <dewey> hmmm ok I am on edgy
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> Krishean, search per apt-cache search
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> i dont know why, but dpkg -l doesnt show you everything
[04:09] <Krishean> apt-cache --help?
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> apt-cache search whatever
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> but apt-cache --help isnt uncorrect either ;)
[04:10] <Krishean> niether of the packages show up
[04:10] <Krishean> i get basically the same stuff as i get from dpkg
[04:11] <Flying_Eagle> did you add the regarding repositories and if so, did you "apt-get update"?
[04:11] <Krishean> i dunno how to add repositories
[04:11] <Krishean> but i have done apt-get update
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> then read how you do that -> wiki
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> dude, i hope that the english wiki is compareable to the german one
[04:13] <Krishean> as far as i have seen the wiki is confusing in english
[04:17] <stdin> dewey: looking for flash 9?
[04:17] <Flying_Eagle> lp.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:17] <Flying_Eagle> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:18] <Flying_Eagle> that should get you further, Krishean
[04:18] <stdin> !repos
[04:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:19] <Flying_Eagle> okay... i searched for "repository" and got nothin useful
[04:20] <tarnold> alright how do i play dvds?
[04:20] <stdin> knowing the bot commands saves me tons of time :P
[04:21] <tarnold> i added the restricted repositories but can't get casablanca to play
[04:21] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, why dont you just use kaffeine?
[04:21] <tarnold> yesah
[04:21] <tarnold> but its not working
[04:21] <tarnold> says its encrypted
[04:21] <stdin> tarnold: take a look at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs you probably need libdvdcss2 (for protected disks)
[04:21] <Flying_Eagle> libdvdcss
[04:22] <tarnold> yes, but i though i had that- guess not, what do i need to do?
[04:22] <sep1318> you may have it, but you need to extract it. or some other words that make a bit more sense.
[04:23] <Flying_Eagle> first of all, youll probably need to break the law :(
[04:23] <sep1318> take stdin's suggestion, and look at the webpage
[04:23] <sep1318> hehe yeah, that too.
[04:23] <stdin> Flying_Eagle: it's a stupid law anyway :P
[04:23] <sep1318> but i'm not quite sure on where that does/n't apply
[04:23] <sep1318> hehe.
[04:23] <sep1318> i second that.
[04:24] <Flying_Eagle> yes. but the gentleman who cracked the encryption got much trouble for his noble work
[04:24] <sep1318> ah.
[04:25] <tarnold> ok all reading the webpage
[04:25] <sep1318> :)
[04:25] <tarnold> i thought i enabled gstreamer in my package manager...what else is there to do?
[04:25] <tarnold> im still confused
[04:25] <wifioh> is there any way to force checkinstall into not using the packagename-version-release.deb syntax. i'd like checkinstall to use packagename-version.deb syntax instead
[04:27] <albert> hi, i just had a strange crash. i installed edgy, did the security-updates and then my system froze
[04:27] <albert> after that it wouldn't boot...
[04:28] <Flying_Eagle> kernel panic?
[04:28] <Flying_Eagle> can you boot an  older kernel version or sth?
[04:28] <stdin> wifioh: it uses the debian standard (name_version-release_arch.deb), you could tho, set the release to be blank, and see if that works
[04:28] <albert> yeah, kernel panic
[04:28] <albert> i formated
[04:29] <albert> but i wonder, why this would happen
[04:29] <Flying_Eagle> i think - w/o further info - anyone else, too ;)
[04:30] <Flying_Eagle> maybe the kernel was to be updated and the update failed
[04:30] <albert> hopefully it will work this time
[04:30] <wifioh> stdin: i can't seem to get it to default to anything other than 1. if i provide --pkgrelease '', it defaults to 1
[04:30] <albert> i'm getting tired of reinstalling all the time ;)
[04:31] <wifioh> stdin: also, same goes for --pkgarch '', it defaults to i386
[04:31] <Krishean> ok, it crashed again
[04:31] <Krishean> froze
[04:32] <emilio> #kubuntu-es
[04:32] <Krishean> wasn't in the color configuration dialog this time either
[04:32] <tarnold> can i get the wireless to connect to a network on start up instead of having to manually activate it?
[04:32] <ODC> I really like this so far
[04:32] <stdin> wifioh: hmm, don't know then, but why do you want to change it ?
[04:33] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, yes. when not per gui then you could add "auto whateverdevicename" to your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <tarnold> what do you mean when not per gui?
[04:34] <snowrichard> hello
[04:34] <tarnold> if the device is my wireless, and ive a broadcom(forget device name atm)?
[04:34] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, you should be able to do it in the controlcenter. but you can also do it manually by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[04:35] <tarnold> ah- how in hte control center?
[04:35] <Krishean> how do i find out whats freezing my machine?
[04:36] <Flying_Eagle> it should be obvious like "enable at bootup"
[04:36] <EADG> Is it possible to have an audio preview in Konqueror while hovering over a .mp3? Where do i config that?
[04:36] <wifioh> stdin: i wrote some custom scripts to check version numbers in that way, so having anything after that is garbage i rather not have. also, i find it aesthetically unappealing
[04:36] <wifioh> i have to go home now, but i'll be back in a bit, thanks for your help thus far stdin
[04:37] <stdin> EADG: install the packagel libarts1-mpeglib
[04:37] <stdin> *package
[04:37] <deathnote> hi im trying to instlal kubuntu edgy on my evo compaq laptop..it keeps going into BusyBox
[04:37] <deathnote> why?
[04:37] <Kubuntuero> ODC: Welcoome to the kubunt Fold :)
[04:37] <underdog5004> so, is there any way to stream video from a home-server that I've got? Cause right now I have to download vids to a tmp file and then wait for them to download...
[04:38] <tarnold> flying_Eagle: i appearently can't find it im looking at kcontrol now, and am in internet options
[04:38] <Flying_Eagle> look in the network-options
[04:38] <ODC> Kubuntuero: thanks, I'll be exploring a lot here in the near future
[04:38] <EADG> stdin: Thanks.
[04:38] <deathnote> why am i keep going into BusyBox v1.1.3
[04:38] <albert> my adept manager won't download the extra-codecs
[04:38] <ODC> so far I've installed WINE and am working on the World of Warcraft thing
[04:39] <Flying_Eagle> albert, they are in the multiverse-repository
[04:39] <ODC> Thanks to Flying_Eagle's tough love, I've found a section all about WoW in the Ubuntu help files
[04:39] <albert> Flying_Eagle: i activated them, but the download won't start
[04:39] <stdin> underdog5004: yeah, just use samba, nfs, ssh or ftp to stream, or you can use VLC to stream over network too
[04:39] <albert> ah, finally
[04:39] <albert> took about 5 minutes
[04:39] <underdog5004> stdin, how can I use ssh/ftp to stream?
[04:39] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, hrhr, thanks :D
[04:39] <deathnote> OHHHHHHHHH SHIT
[04:39] <ODC> =)
[04:39] <tarnold> Flying_Eagle: well i can't find it, so im not to sure about it,  but teh fact taht its 10 40 pm may have something to do with it
[04:39] <deathnote> i am booting from a USB CD ROM
[04:39] <deathnote> is it because kubuntu can't detect
[04:40] <deathnote> the cd rom
[04:40] <deathnote> cos i read the log it seems like so
[04:40] <tarnold> !language | deathnote:
[04:40] <ubotu> deathnote:: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <deathnote> ?
[04:40] <deathnote> who are u?
[04:40] <tarnold> no ohh SH!T
[04:40] <tarnold> commen curetesy
[04:40] <stdin> underdog5004: just set your media player to play from ftp://yourserver/dir/filename , some also work with fish://user@server/dir/filename , if not, you can mount both ftp and ssh with fuse
[04:41] <deathnote> lol..u can't even spell
[04:41] <underdog5004> gotcha, thanks a lot, stdin
[04:41] <underdog5004> you rock
[04:41] <stdin> I know :P
[04:41] <tarnold> ah hah bugger off if your gonna act like a twit
[04:41] <stdin> you're welcome. underdog5004 :)
[04:47] <EADG> stdin: package libarts1-mpeglib installed but no .mp3 preview. Any other suggestions off the top of your head?
[04:49] <stdin> EADG: 1st, make sure it's set right in View->Preview->Sound files, then, you may have to restart Konqueror to have it take effect, if that doesn't work, try logging out and back in
[04:51] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?
[04:54] <EADG> Gonna try restarting X
[04:57] <EADG> :(
[05:02] <Emerald> Hello, I have a problem with my Kubuntu install- Whenever I try and boot from the LiveCD it will load up until a blue screen with a cursor
[05:02] <Emerald> Then it will stop completely, and I can move my mouse- but do nothing else
[05:03] <Emerald> So I'm wondering- What would generaly be the issue here?
[05:07] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?
[05:07] <stdin> something to do with the graphics card you have probably Emerald
[05:13] <krammer> has anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete?
[05:15] <krammer> i ran successfully, but it doesn't show up in my plugin list
[05:15] <Emerald> Ah, I have a 7800 GT, does that chip often cause problems ?
[05:18] <albert_> !ati
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <aphroguy> !1280x1024
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1280x1024 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <aphroguy> !resolution
[05:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:18] <rpvonz> hi
[05:19] <krammer> !kopete
[05:19] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[05:19] <rpvonz> how come i cant log into my su?
[05:19] <Emerald> Thanks for that, but I can't boot up the Live CD, so I'm not running linux right now.
[05:19] <Emerald> It just stops when it gets to the blue screen. I have a cursor that I can move, but that's about it.
[05:19] <albert_> hi, are there special drivers for each radeon serie?
[05:19] <rpvonz> do i use the password i assigned?
[05:19] <makuseru> aphroguy: having problems getting 1280x1024
[05:19] <stdin> Emerald: you can try booting to the Safe Graphics mode or, if that still fails, you can download the alternate install CD, which is the same as the Desktop install CD, except it's a text based installer
[05:20] <aphroguy> Emerald, what are your hardware specs?
[05:20] <rpvonz> albert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29%7C%28driver%29
[05:20] <aphroguy> Makuseru, yes, I am.  Can't get above 1024x768
[05:20] <Emerald> Okay, I have a AMD Athlon 4000+, 1 GB of DDR RAM, NVidia 7800 GT, Creative Sound Blaster Value 2
[05:20] <emet> kello kere
[05:20] <Emerald> ANd a MSI  	
[05:20] <Emerald> K8N Neo4 Platinum
[05:21] <makuseru> aphroguy: i have the same problem, the way i get 1280x1024 is to reconfigure X and choose 1280x1024 when it asks for resolution
[05:21] <emet> can I have your video card
[05:21] <rpvonz> i'm trying to run gksudo, it wont let me...
[05:21] <albert_> rpvonz: am i able to uninstall the drivers, if they fail to improve my performance or even reduce it?
[05:21] <rpvonz> what is your card...
[05:21] <Emerald> Okay, one sec
[05:21] <albert_> it happened to me in dapper, that they dropped my perfomance heavily
[05:22] <rpvonz> albert: video card?
[05:22] <albert_> ati radeon (diamond) 9600
[05:22] <rpvonz> heh... should work...
[05:22] <aphroguy> Emerald, wow, definitely shouldn't be a hardware restraint.  But it could be the video card.  Try the alternate CD, and see if you're able to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before you actually boot to Kubuntu.  You may even have to get the nvidia drivers before booting to KDE.
[05:22] <albert_> k
[05:22] <rpvonz> i'm just installing for my x1300
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ati 9600 should work fine with the fglrx drivers
[05:22] <albert_> k, but in dapper the driver dropped my performance
[05:22] <albert_> couldn't watch videos anymore
[05:22] <stdin> rpvonz: gksudo? that's the gnome one, use kdesu
[05:22] <rpvonz> oh thanks!
[05:22] <Emerald> Okay, I've got a eVGA N517 GeForce 7800GT
[05:23] <Emerald> Alright then
[05:23] <rpvonz> *i made a newb mistake :(*
[05:23] <Emerald> I'll try that
[05:23] <aphroguy> Makuseru, I've been through that a DOZENS of times, doesn't work.  Causes my x-server to crash at login, kicking me back to the login screen for an endless loop.
[05:24] <krammer> nevermind i got it working
[05:24] <makuseru> doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:24] <Emerald> I'll try doing that using the alternate- THanks so much!
[05:24] <elijah> hi somerville
[05:25] <aphroguy> Makuseru: Exactly.  If I try to select anything higher than my current resolution, it crashes.
[05:25] <albert_> should i choose the open-source drivers or the ati drivers?
[05:25] <makuseru> hmmm
[05:25] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  you get to the KDM login? and then the X server crashes after you login?
[05:25] <makuseru> does your moniter support it?
[05:25] <Ashex> so, my menu bar just died
[05:26] <elijah> hi everyone
[05:26] <rpvonz> nother newb question i opened kdesud, but i mistyped the directory, now it says warning kdesud is running...
[05:26] <aphroguy> That's right, Dr, takes me back to the login screen after it goes blank.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  and you have an ati card?
[05:26] <Ashex> what's the name of the k app that's that bar?
[05:26] <stdin> Ashex: you mean kicker?
[05:26] <Ashex> stdin, that's the one!
[05:26] <elijah> why some controls like system date & network properties are disabled using my log-in?
[05:27] <stdin> :)
[05:27] <Ashex> yeah, it crashed when kaffeine launched
[05:27] <aphroguy> No, crappy HP Pavilion notebook and S3 graphics twister integrated video.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> elijah,  ther should be an 'administrator mode' button thats at the bottom of the panel/window. BUT i find that often the window is sized where its not noticeable at first.
[05:27] <kubuntero> Where is kopete info kept?
[05:27] <aphroguy> But the card supports up to 1280x1024, as does the 17" CRT that's plugged into it.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  Hmm.. i had a similer issuw with ati cards, and the 'accelerated' video mode.. but not tried a S3.
[05:28] <aphroguy> The LCD display is shot, can't see a display at all.
[05:28] <elijah> dr willis, is there any other way for me to find that?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> elijah,  maxamize the window
[05:28] <elijah> or maybe can i make my log-in equivalent to root?
[05:28] <makuseru> aphroguy: dunno why it shoudl work i have ATI 7000 and a 15"
[05:28] <makuseru> crt
[05:28] <makuseru> and i use 1280x1024
[05:28] <Dr_willis> elijah,  you are trying too hard. :) just maxamize the window.
[05:29] <elijah> he he
[05:29] <rpvonz> ...ugh whats the default password for kdesu!!!
[05:29] <elijah> ok thanks
[05:29] <elijah> i'll try that
[05:29] <makuseru> same as your root pass rpvonz
[05:29] <rpvonz> i tried it...
[05:29] <elijah> thank you so much dr willis
[05:29] <rpvonz> it don't work...
[05:29] <Dr_willis> elijah,  i got no idw why the problem happens in kubuntu. other kde based disrtos dont have the issue.
[05:29] <NixHex> rpvonz: its your personal password
[05:29] <Dr_willis> elijah,  however. once ya mazamize the window once.. i think it rembers and shows up right from then on. :)
[05:29] <stdin> kubuntero: what do you mean by "kopete info"? the settings?
[05:30] <rpvonz> i tried that...
[05:30] <rpvonz> i think i forgot it...
[05:30] <rpvonz> ...
[05:30] <kubuntero> stdin: Yes I want to move my accounts to a new machine
[05:31] <rpvonz> it keeps sayin permission denied....
[05:31] <NixHex> rpvonz: whats the command you are trying?
[05:31] <stdin> kubuntero: it would be in the ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ directory and the ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc file
[05:32] <rpvonz> kdesu gedit gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:32] <rpvonz> no two gedits sry
[05:32] <stdin> rpvonz: use kate, not gedit
[05:32] <NixHex> rpvonz: its not gedit...its kate or even kwrite
[05:32] <makuseru> or nano
[05:32] <rpvonz> oh
[05:33] <rpvonz> too used to gnome!
[05:33] <aphroguy> NANO IS TEH BOM!
[05:33] <rpvonz> ha it worked, you guys are the best...
[05:34] <aphroguy> I'd recommend Nano for anything.
[05:34] <rpvonz> kk
[05:34] <aphroguy> INCLUDING a stellar HTML IDE. :-D
[05:34] <rpvonz> heh... how do i enable the disabled ati modules...
[05:35] <rpvonz> could someone do this for me... like over a vnc client??? :)
[05:35] <rpvonz> i know i'm going to screw something up...
[05:35] <makuseru> what are you trying to do
[05:35] <rpvonz> install ati drivers
[05:35] <makuseru> its not hard
[05:35] <rpvonz> ill screw something up...
[05:36] <rpvonz> seriously i havetried this like 5 times before
[05:36] <rpvonz> i will
[05:36] <rpvonz> *will
[05:36] <makuseru> if you do remember just use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:36] <makuseru> so you can get back in
[05:36] <rpvonz> i cant remember that!!!
[05:36] <makuseru> write it down
[05:36] <rpvonz> ugh, do it for me! :)
[05:37] <makuseru> no, its prefectially simple to get flgrx drivers
[05:37] <makuseru> i use ati
[05:37] <rpvonz> ...and thats why ive had to reinstall this os like ten times...
[05:37] <aphroguy> Rpvonz, you can do it from Konsole, as long as you log out once you're done and restart the X-server.
[05:37] <makuseru> even though my card is too old for flgrx
[05:37] <rpvonz> i'm uncomfortable doing it, do it for me ;)
[05:38] <makuseru> just because you mess up installing a video driver dosnt mean you have to reinstall the OS
[05:38] <makuseru> you just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:38] <rpvonz> ...ahem
[05:38] <rpvonz> just do it for me please!!
[05:38] <rpvonz> you can try vnc!
[05:38] <rpvonz> i need a linux pro!
[05:38] <makuseru> pro?
[05:39] <makuseru> im a highschool student
[05:39] <rpvonz> i'm middle school goin to highschool...
[05:39] <makuseru> and just a sophmore at that
[05:39] <makuseru> you can figure it out
[05:39] <makuseru> it is not hard
[05:39] <rpvonz> ah whatever
[05:39] <makuseru> and demanding things will never get you what you want
[05:39] <rpvonz> i know
[05:39] <makuseru> like the ubuntu forums say, we are not employees, weare volunters
[05:40] <rpvonz> your very nice volunteers :)
[05:40] <rpvonz> who strive to make ubuntu perfect!
[05:40] <albert> can anybody tell me the command line for downloading java?
[05:40] <rpvonz> well how do i enable the module, i'm in the config file...
[05:41] <golum83> hi i have a problem, i have already downloaded the flash player tu see videos on youtube
[05:41] <golum83> but i can watch it
[05:41] <rpvonz> it not flash player 9
[05:41] <rpvonz> or whatever the latest is
[05:41] <stdin> !flash9
[05:41] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:41] <albert> !java
[05:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:41] <makuseru> !java
[05:41] <makuseru> haha
[05:41] <golum83> let me see thanks
[05:41] <albert> yeah, i finally learned to think
[05:41] <makuseru> theres the package albet
[05:41] <kubuntero> stdin: Righteous
[05:41] <golum83> !flash
[05:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <Bearcat> hey folks
[05:42] <makuseru> so sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[05:42] <aphroguy> Hi Bearcat
[05:42] <rpvonz> what would this be -> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" is it the ati drivers... or should i leave it alone???
[05:43] <rpvonz> hmmm???
[05:43] <albert> !multiverse java
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Bearcat> i'm having a bit of  a problem here. I have a fix, but it feels more like a patch. kppp does not handle the default gateway properly. i can fix that by using route, but when i reboot it is back to it's bad behavior. It strikes me that this should have been fixed a long time ago so i must be doing somehting wrong. See here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/53877
[05:44] <NixHex>  hey, anyone know if they have done a 64bit port of flash plugin? (already asked in Ubuntu+1...waiting response)
[05:44] <NixHex> in feisty
[05:44] <Bearcat> NixHex: nope. It doesn't exist for any distro
[05:44] <rpvonz> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" i'm going to delete this disabled module!!1
[05:44] <stdin> NixHex: there is no 64bit flash (from adobe/macromedia), you'll have to make do with gnash
[05:45] <userund> you can run a 32bit firefox, that's what I hear some people do to get around flash
[05:45] <rpvonz> do i just delete the fglrx part of it!
[05:45] <NixHex> stdin: nah, I'll just install 32bit firefox...just wondering if they came up for a port of it in feisty
[05:46] <stdin> NixHex: they can't, the ubuntu devs don't make flash
[05:46] <aphroguy> Bearcat: Shell script?  You're right, it would be more of a patch, but unless you want to edit the program itself, it's PROBABLY the only option.  Granted, I'm not that familiar with kppp.
[05:46] <rpvonz> makuseru: do i delete fglrx off of this line to get it working???... DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"
[05:47] <Bearcat> aphroguy: doesn't it strike you as strange that such a basic bug would be over 6 months old?
[05:47] <userund> Bearcat: not really.  I've seen worse.
[05:47] <makuseru> rpvonz: i dont know, dont use flgrx
[05:47] <aphroguy> In the software dev world, no.
[05:47] <rpvonz> kk...
[05:47] <stdin> Bearcat: have you checked that the bug has been reported ?
[05:47] <rpvonz> i did it...
[05:47] <rpvonz> hope it doesn't get screwed
[05:47] <Bearcat> because not that many people use dial-up anymore?
[05:48] <Bearcat> stdin: on bugs.kde.org? nope
[05:48] <stdin> Bearcat: no, on launchpad
[05:48] <Dr_willis> the only pc i got with a modem.. is my laptop. :)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> and ive never used that feature.
[05:48] <stdin> Bearcat: https://bugs.launchpad.net
[05:48] <Bearcat> stdin: yeah, i posted a link to it in my question. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/53877
[05:49] <golum83> !backports
[05:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:50] <Bearcat> i'm not using kubuntu myself, i'm just supporting it. I suppose i'm gonna have to make a script to do this. Is it suficient to just put it in rl 3?
[05:50] <albert> !screenshot
[05:50] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP.
[05:51] <Bearcat> i'll try putting it in bootmisc
[05:51] <rpvonz> i dont like nano how do i exit without saving!!!
[05:51] <stdin> Bearcat: runlevel 2 is the default runlevel
[05:51] <stdin> rpvonz: Ctrl-X, then press n
[05:51] <Bearcat> stdin: right, but it would have to run after the network script, wouldn't it?
[05:52] <stdin> Bearcat: yeah, but the scripts for rl 3 are never run, unless the user runs "init 3"
[05:53] <Bearcat> stdin: what? I'm still confused by ubuntu.
[05:53] <elijah> hi, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.
[05:53] <elijah> what should i do?
[05:53] <stdin> Bearcat: the system boots in to runlevel 2, and stays there
[05:54] <Bearcat> stdin: then how does the system even get to kde since that's all in rl 5?
[05:54] <rpvonz> i think i might have installed the ati drivers correctly!!!
[05:54] <stdin> Bearcat: no, it's in rl 2
[05:54] <golum83> hi i have already the 9.0.31.0 version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help
[05:54] <stdin> Bearcat: no, it's in rl 2, /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm starts KDE
[05:55] <rpvonz> can i pm someone knowledgeable to see if its right (i ran fglrxinfo)
[05:55] <stdin> Bearcat: well, KDM antway
[05:55] <Bearcat> stdin: isn't that counter to standards? Not that it's a bad thing.
[05:55] <stdin> Bearcat: it's just the way all debian based systems work
[05:56] <rpvonz> i think i got it!
[05:56] <elijah> stdin, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.
[05:56] <kubuntero> juc/j #kubuntu-devel
[05:56] <rpvonz> thanks for your guys' help onto installing xgl!!!
[05:56] <Bearcat> stdin: i'll mess with it and bug you if i have problems. Thanks :P
[05:56] <ctw> Hi, I have a weired apt-get / dpkg issue that I'm hoping somebody might be able to help me out with
[05:57] <ctw> earlier today I got an error message during an upgrade concerning libgphoto2-2
[05:57] <ctw> I uninstalled it and that triggered the uninstall of kubuntu-desktop and several other packages
[05:58] <ctw> I then tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <ctw> and now I'm getting dependency problems for the packages that were previously deinstalled
[05:58] <ctw> I'm running Feisty
[05:58] <stdin> elijah: open Konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole" and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then tell me what happens
[05:58] <ctw> but I'm running it on two computers
[05:58] <ctw> and it only affects one
[05:59] <ctw> does anybody have any idea what to do?
[05:59] <ctw> I'm hitting a wall ...
[05:59] <stdin> ctw: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post the output to http://pastebin.ca so I can have a look
[06:01] <ctw> http://pastebin.ca/384576
[06:01] <ctw> stdin: see the above lin
[06:01] <ctw> k
[06:01] <ctw> thanks for taking a look ... any idea?
[06:02] <elijah> thanks stdin, i'll try that
[06:03] <mardi> hi, anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[06:03] <NightBird> huh... kubuntu doesn't like it when I try to shutdown or log out...
[06:03] <matt____> kubuntu doesnt see my cd rom, do I need to get drivers somewhere or something?
[06:03] <carutsu> hello
[06:04] <carutsu> how in world do i turn on zeroconf
[06:04] <kubuntero> !zeroconf
[06:04] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:04] <carutsu> shouldnt it be ZERO conf for that...
[06:04] <carutsu> omg its not even installed
[06:04] <carutsu> then is pointles
[06:04] <golum83> !flash
[06:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:04] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:04] <NightBird> matt____, wow, it doesn't see your cdrom?  uh... do other operating systems detect it?
[06:05] <carutsu> thats weird
[06:05] <stdin> ctw: wow, those are some strange errors there
[06:05] <carutsu> stdin hello
[06:05] <matt____> windows sees it and it shows up in the bios
[06:05] <NightBird> matt____, and you installed from it as well I'm guessing, right?
[06:05] <matt____> ya
[06:05] <NightBird> hm...
[06:05] <stdin> hey carutsu
[06:05] <NightBird> most curious...
[06:06] <matt____> I am pretty sure it doesnt see it, I cant find it anywhere
[06:06] <carutsu> stdin i had to instal xine and now kaffeine is pointless on my pc. xD
[06:06] <ctw> stdin: I know
[06:06] <NightBird> matt____, have you checked the dev directory?
[06:06] <ctw> stdin: I have no idea what to do
[06:06] <matt____> how would I go about checking it
[06:06] <NightBird> it may just be that it isn't automounting cd's for some reason..
[06:07] <carutsu> !zeroconf
[06:07] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:07] <NightBird> matt____, the directory is in /dev/
[06:07] <carutsu> how do i turn it on?
[06:07] <NightBird> but I don't know what device it would be..
[06:07] <NightBird> carutsu, did you install it?
[06:07] <carutsu> NightBird yes
[06:07] <aleska> in gnome's nautilus, I was able to add a hard delete along with the typical move to trash.  Is there a way to do so in konquerer as well?
[06:07] <carutsu> but the daemon isnt runing...
[06:07] <mardi> why even produce a news reader that can't filter cross posts?
[06:08] <carutsu> NightBird but the daemon isnt runing...
[06:08] <K`zan> aleska: shift-del in konq to just delete...
[06:08] <NightBird> carutsu, go to system settings, advanced, and there should be something about auto run, or daemons, or something similar...
[06:08] <aleska> thx K'zan
[06:08] <NightBird> (I have windows open right now due to having to work on some homework
[06:08] <carutsu> services?
[06:08] <aleska> anyway to make it appear as an option when right-clicking a file?
[06:08] <NightBird> so I can't tell you what it is exactly..
[06:08] <NightBird> yeah, services
[06:08] <NightBird> go in there, see if it's on that list
[06:09] <carutsu> system services or Services Administrator?
[06:09] <NightBird> system services
[06:09] <NightBird> if it is, start it, and then set it to autostart
[06:09] <carutsu> NightBird ok
[06:09] <carutsu> NightBird i still cant belive its not on by default ZEROconf, xD
[06:09] <ctw> stdin: any idea what I could try?
[06:10] <NightBird> carutsu, yeah, if you install it, I would have imagined that it would have auto started it, but maybe not
[06:10] <carutsu> its not listed
[06:10] <stdin> ctw: have you tried reinstalling the package libcaca0, files from that seem to be the problem
[06:10] <carutsu> NightBird its not listed
[06:10] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart? omg i'm still windowed xD
[06:10] <albert> !ftp
[06:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:10] <jnl> whats going on here?
[06:10] <NightBird> ok, what about going to konsole, and try typing the begining of the name
[06:11] <NightBird> then tab
[06:11] <carutsu> i did
[06:11] <NightBird> no good?
[06:11] <carutsu> it says error dont-know-what needed
[06:11] <NightBird> so there was a program named that?
[06:11] <albert> !kasamblanca
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasamblanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <albert> !Kasablanca
[06:11] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-1build1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB
[06:11] <NightBird> carutsu: try using kdesu on it
[06:11] <albert> !kftpgrabber
[06:11] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[06:12] <carutsu> usage error
[06:12] <carutsu> zeroconf [-f|--force]  [-v|--verbose]  [-n|--no-fork]  [-i|--interface]  <interface>
[06:12] <carutsu> where:
[06:12] <carutsu>         -f      force zeroconf to run on the specified interface
[06:12] <carutsu>         -v      report verbose information
[06:12] <carutsu>         -n      do not fork into the background
[06:12] <carutsu>         -i      which interface to run on [required] 
[06:12] <NightBird> whoa
[06:12] <carutsu> omg sorry mistaken
[06:12] <NightBird> uh...
[06:12] <NightBird> include the interface you want to use zeroconf on
[06:13] <carutsu> it says something that mdnsd the daemon isnt runing
[06:13] <intelikey> how many in here know that  apt-get remove 'blah' will break dependancies ?
[06:13] <intelikey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:13] <intelikey> and all i did was apt-get remove -y blah
[06:13] <ctw> stdin:http://pastebin.ca/384586
[06:13] <NightBird> intelikey, yeah, it can
[06:14] <intelikey> NightBird yes, i know.  but it shouldn't.
[06:14] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart?
[06:14] <ctw> stdin: any idea how I can reinstall libcac0?
[06:14] <NightBird> intelikey, why not?
[06:14] <ctw> stdin: see the link to the error above
[06:14] <NightBird> apt-get isn't intelligent enough to detect that kind of stuff
[06:15] <intelikey> nightbird that's the whole reason behind apt.
[06:15] <NightBird> no, apt-get just downloads detected dependencies on install
[06:15] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart?
[06:15] <stdin> ctw: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcac0"
[06:15] <NightBird> carutsu: no
[06:15] <NightBird> aptitude and it's console version auto handles removal of dependines, and will warn about breaking known dependencies
[06:16] <NightBird> carutsu, which interface do you want to configure?
[06:16] <NightBird> eth0? eth1? wlan0?
[06:16] <carutsu> none of them
[06:16] <NightBird> ..
[06:16] <carutsu> i want to acces a shared
[06:16] <carutsu> resource
[06:16] <NightBird> uh..
[06:16] <NightBird> !zeroconf
[06:16] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:17] <albert> !image
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <NightBird> zeroconf handles configuring your network interfaces..
[06:17] <ctw> sdtin: these errors keep getting stranger: http://pastebin.ca/384591
[06:17] <carutsu> zeroconf is also for shared services as far as i know
[06:17] <albert> !picture
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <raylu> NightBird, wouldn't that be the same as ifconfig/up/down?
[06:17] <elijah> hi stdin
[06:17] <NightBird> what kind of shared resources?
[06:17] <raylu> albert, are you trying to get an image viewer?
[06:17] <carutsu> printers
[06:17] <NightBird> raylu, it probably does things a bit more elagently :P
[06:17] <golum83> hi i have already the 9.0.31.0 version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help?
[06:18] <albert> yeah, sth like irfanview in windows
[06:18] <albert> small and easy to use
[06:18] <raylu> golum83, what browser?
[06:18] <golum83> firefox
[06:18] <carutsu> i found it
[06:18] <carutsu> finlly
[06:18] <carutsu> enable zero conf network browsing
[06:18] <stdin> hey elijah :)
[06:18] <NightBird> uh.. ok
[06:18] <raylu> albert, i'm not familiar with irfanview or sth...but gwenview should serve your purposes
[06:18] <santos> albert,  gwenview
[06:18] <elijah> stdin i tried what you said but to no avail, i tried "apt-get update" on the console but it says that "E: 'cdrom' is unknown"
[06:18] <albert> thank you two
[06:19] <raylu> golum83, when you go to youtube, doesn't it ask you to install a missing plugin?
[06:19] <stdin> ctw: I'm beginning to think that you have some disk corruption
[06:19] <elijah> why the update is pointed to the cdrom?
[06:19] <kubuntero> carutsu: Where?
[06:19] <golum83> yes i have already downloaded and with alien convrted to deb and installed
[06:19] <stdin> elijah: because you have a CD as a source in your sources.list
[06:19] <raylu> golum83, you shouldn't have needed to convert with alien
[06:19] <carutsu> kubuntero is im not sure how is spelled on english, something like network preferences
[06:19] <elijah> stdin where will i remove that?
[06:19] <golum83> i convert the rpm file
[06:20] <raylu> golum83, I'm guessing you had to do a manual install?
[06:20] <ctw> stdin: is there anything I could to to test that
[06:20] <golum83> yes manual from konsole
[06:20] <raylu> o.0..strange
[06:20] <raylu> there is a libflash-mozplugin
[06:20] <kubuntero> carutsu: ah ok
[06:20] <ctw> stdin: I turned off to computer this morning without properly shutting it down ... might that be part of the problem?
[06:20] <raylu> and a flashplayer-mozilla
[06:20] <raylu> !flashplayer-mozilla
[06:20] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: Macromedia Flash Player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.0.79-0.2 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 1528 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:21] <raylu> !libflash-mozplugin
[06:21] <ubotu> libflash-mozplugin: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:21] <raylu> hm...I can't tell which one you need
[06:21] <dtc_> anyone know of a nice gui for mounting iso's like Windows daemon ?
[06:21] <jack> hello all
[06:21] <raylu> dtc_, acetoneISO, but it didn't work for me
[06:21] <stdin> elijah: in Konsole, type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then add a # to the beginning of the line the cd info on it (should be the top line), then press Ctrl-O, then Crtl-X
[06:21] <raylu> !hi | jack
[06:21] <ubotu> jack: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:21] <golum83> let me install libflash the other one i have already installed and not working
[06:22] <dtc_> thanks raylu... I'll try that
[06:22] <lupo> buon giornno
[06:22] <raylu> dtc_, if you're mounting the same stuff over and over, I suppose you could write a script for it
[06:22] <ctw> stdin: I have jfs
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: it could be, I'd run a check by shutting down with "sudo shutdown -rF now" (will shutdown and restart immediately)
[06:23] <dtc_> kind of... I've got like 15 iso's that are movies sitting on an external drive, don't want to write a different script for each though
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: jfs?
[06:23] <elijah> thanls stdin
[06:23] <golum83> I installed libflash-mozplugin and not working
[06:23] <elijah> i'll try it again
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: notsure if fsck works on jfs
[06:24] <stdin> ctw: but give it a try, it defiantly looks like some files got messed up
[06:24] <lupo>  la prima volta che uso un canale irc chi mi spiega le regole?
[06:25] <stdin> elijah: after you change the file, and save it, you'll have to run "sudo apt-get update" first, to make the changes take effect
[06:25] <carutsu> i cant
[06:25] <carutsu> i just cant
[06:25] <stdin> !it | lupo
[06:25] <ubotu> lupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:25] <carutsu> this is the only drawback i can find
[06:25] <raylu> dtc_, er, no, you can specify arguments in the script of course
[06:25] <ctw> sdtin: it seems like fsck will work, but it warns me about not running it on a mounted filesystem
[06:25] <lupo> come devo fare?
[06:25] <raylu> golum83, I still think it should install automatically when you tell it to in FF
[06:25] <ctw> sdtin: so I guess I'll get a live CD and check it
[06:26] <ctw> sdtin: thanks so much for your help
[06:26] <lupo> buon giorno dal lupo
[06:26] <stdin> ctw: no problem, let me know how it turns out :)
[06:26] <dtc_> yea thats true... thanks for the help... gonna try the acetoneISO thing first though
[06:27] <raylu> don't make the mistake I did of compiling it yourself :D
[06:27] <raylu> wait...perhaps that's why...
[06:28] <ctw> sdtin: it'll have to wait until tomorrow ... I currently don't have physical access to the computer ... it's at work ... I'm ssh'ing into it right now
[06:28] <golum83> FF? sorry mi ignorance
[06:28] <raylu> firefox
[06:28] <golum83> ok well let me continue trying thanks
[06:29] <stdin> ctw: no problem, I'm always here, even when I'm not actually here :P
[06:30] <stdin> ctw: and it's stdin, not sdtin, I keep missing your messages :P
[06:30] <carutsu> NightBird it says NT acces denied
[06:30] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[06:30] <raylu> tab ftw!
[06:32] <NightBird> carutsu, I'm working on homework right now, I won't be able to help you
[06:32] <NightBird> plus, I don't know anything about getting printers to work
[06:32] <makuseru> how can i convert .ogm to .avi or .mpg?
[06:32] <raylu> carutsu, what says NT access denied?
[06:33] <raylu> !ogmtools
[06:33] <ubotu> ogmtools: Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.5-2.1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:33] <raylu> i've never used it, so I don't know what will happen ^
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: oh sorry ... I actually did a lot of writing recently where I used the abbreviation SDT
[06:33] <raylu> but it *might* work
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: of course stdin makes much more sense ... :)
[06:33] <carutsu> when i try to find the printer
[06:33] <carutsu> raylu
[06:33] <stdin> ctw: heh, it's ok, I've been called worse ;)
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: but it's so engrained in my fingers now
[06:34] <ctw> stdin: :)
[06:34] <raylu> carutsu, er...with what?
[06:34] <carutsu> with the prinder manager of KDE
[06:34] <carutsu> its shared on a windows pc
[06:34] <stdin> ctw: you can always just use the tab key to compleat my nick, like std<TAB> goes to stdin :)
[06:35] <ctw> stdin: wow I didn't know that
[06:35] <ctw> stdin: thanks!
[06:35] <stdin> stdin: no problem :)
[06:35] <raylu> [23:30:46]  <raylu> tab ftw!
[06:35] <raylu> :(
[06:36] <ctw> stdin: oh I missed your message about the check at restart
[06:36] <ctw> stdin: will try that out now
[06:37] <raylu> carutsu, are you in administrator mode?
[06:37] <stdin> ctw: you'll be disconnected, and it may ask for user input at the box, so it may not be a good idea right now
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: too late ... oh well I'll have physical access to it tomorrow
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: don't need to stay connected right now
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: let's see if it comes up again
[06:39] <carutsu> yes
[06:39] <stdin> ctw: heh, well at least you have a clue of what may be wrong with it now
[06:39] <carutsu> raylo: yes
[06:39] <raylu> hm...I dunno then
[06:39] <raylu> now that I think about it, I've never actually printed anything with this computer on linux, ever
[06:39] <ctw> stdin: yeah, thanks so much!
[06:39] <Joshooa> Which do you guys prefer, Gaim or Kopete?
[06:39] <ctw> stdin: could my hard reset caused the file corruption?
[06:39] <stdin> :)
[06:39] <carutsu> raylo: actually i lied... in administrator i ant configure a printer
[06:39] <ctw> stdin: or is something wrong with the HD?
[06:40] <raylu> Kopete, though for some reason people will actually use Gaim on Windows
[06:40] <Joshooa> I had Gaim on windows
[06:40] <Joshooa> But now I don't want to ever use windows again
[06:40] <raylu> carutsu, I believe it's easier to get Windows clients to connect to a printer on Linux than vice-versa
[06:40] <raylu> kopete feels so much more customizable and smaller
[06:41] <stdin> ctw: it looks like corruption, so it's either that some files weren't written well at shutdown, or bad sectors on the disk, which is a bit more of a problem
[06:41] <carutsu> raylu 1)doesnt metter for me (unfortunetly) 2)i love kopete with its so useful skins
[06:42] <raylu> carutsu, er...why is it unfortunate that it doesn't matter?
[06:42] <raylu> oh, do you mean the printer has to be hooked up to the windows one?
[06:42] <carutsu> raylu: that its easier conecting windows to linux... i cant instal linux on "the server"
[06:42] <Joshooa> I just really started using Linux this week with Ubuntu, and after finally getting online and barely getting used to it, I switched to Kubuntu yesterday, and I feel all lost agaain
[06:43] <raylu> haha...nix clients connecting to windows servers...
[06:43] <raylu> use command-line, the universal interface!
[06:43] <carutsu> xD
[06:43] <raylu> actually...after using the linux shell for a few days, the windows cmd prompt seemed totally foreign to me
[06:44] <raylu> i kept typing ls and it kept saying "no, screw you"
[06:44] <carutsu> xD
[06:44] <ctw> stdin: it doesn't look like my computer is coming back ... I'll have to check on it tomorrow ... :(
[06:44] <carutsu> well i'd have to use "tha bad way" to print
[06:44] <ctw> stdin: thanks again so much I hope it's not something bad with the HD
[06:44] <raylu> carutsu, do you have any permission to do stuff on "the server?"
[06:45] <carutsu> yep
[06:45] <ctw> stdin: will the output of fsck tell me what the problem is?
[06:45] <Lamington> I once worked at this place where a guy who just finished univeristy showed me how to change all the DOS commands in hexadecimal
[06:45] <carutsu> raylu actually none of the users has password
[06:45] <Lamington> So I changed the commands to bash commands
[06:45] <Lamington> people went nuts
[06:45] <Peruna> how can I rename mounted drivers ?
[06:45] <raylu> lol...even in hex, wouldn't "dir" be too long for "ls?"
[06:45] <Peruna> like hda1 to Windows
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. there are bash commands you can get for the windows shell.
[06:45] <Peruna> etc
[06:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:45] <stdin> ctw: yeah, it will be quite obvious if there are errors, normally fsck doesn't output much, so if you see some long lines, you know that something is wrong
[06:46] <raylu> cygwin has something like bash commands, I believe
[06:46] <raylu> but after installing openssh on windows, every bash command returned a cygwin error...
[06:46] <Dr_willis> theres alternatives to cygwin. :)
[06:46] <ubuntu> "Critical error during ped_disk_new!"
[06:46] <ubuntu> uhoh
[06:46] <Lamington> raylu: it was a long time ago now... I wouldnt remember how but I did change the commands to bash commands... hehe... you should have seen people try to use the DOS prompt
[06:46] <raylu> for Peruna's question, I believe you can unmount it, create a folder calld Windows, and mount it there
[06:46] <ubuntu> I cant acces the partition tables for my hdd
[06:47] <Peruna> oh
[06:47] <ctw> stdin: I just could log back in
[06:47] <raylu> but I'm not sure, and I was hoping someone else would answer that
[06:47] <ctw> stdin: what do I do now ... my computer is back online
[06:47] <Peruna> oh
[06:47] <ubuntu> I blame windows...
[06:47] <Peruna> thnx raylu
[06:48] <raylu> it worked?
[06:48] <stdin> ctw: 1st I'd delete the file "/var/cache/apt/archives/libcaca0_0.99.beta11.debian-2build1_i386.deb", then run "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcaca0" again
[06:48] <ctw> stdin: I cecked in /var/logs/fsck
[06:48] <Peruna> can you tell me the way to unmount ?
[06:48] <Peruna> sudo unmount dev/hda1 ?
[06:48] <ctw> stdin: it looks good
[06:48] <raylu> Peruna, umount
[06:48] <Peruna> oh ok
[06:48] <ubuntu> I dont want to format my harddrive... This doesnt look good
[06:49] <raylu> actually, I think just "sudo umount hda1" will do it
[06:49] <raylu> but I usually don't mount stuff manually so, again, I'm not sure
[06:49] <Peruna> oh it says that hda1 not found
[06:49] <rpvonz> hi
[06:49] <stdin> raylu: no, you have to either use the mountpoint, or the device
[06:49] <rpvonz> just installed ati drivers for kubuntu...
[06:50] <rpvonz> and now signal is overrange...
[06:50] <rpvonz> told you i would screw up!
[06:50] <raylu> stdin, isn't hda1 the logical name for the device?
[06:51] <Joshooa> Joshooa:
[06:51] <ctw> stdin: I'm getting the same error :(
[06:51] <rpvonz> someone help me...
[06:51] <Joshooa> Just making sure it highlights
[06:51] <raylu> rpvonz, you'll have to describe in more detail
[06:51] <stdin> raylu: no, it's /dev/hda
[06:52] <stdin> ctw: the one with "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptordpkg-deb:" ?
[06:52] <rpvonz> i installed the fglrx drivers in ubuntu, it said i installed everything fine... the signal is over range now and it wont allow me too view, which is obviously a display error
[06:52] <rpvonz> kubuntu
[06:52] <Lamington> ?
[06:52] <nixternal> rpvonz: LCD?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> overrange?
[06:52] <rpvonz> yes
[06:52] <rpvonz> exactly\
[06:52] <nixternal> rpvonz: press the Auto-Config button on your LCD if you have one. that fixes it for me everytime
[06:52] <Peruna> I tried : sudo umount /dev/hda1 << error: not mounted
[06:52] <ctw> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/384622
[06:52] <stdin> Dr_willis: probably same as "out of range"
[06:52] <ctw> stdin: here's the error ... it looks like the first one I had
[06:53] <rpvonz> dr willis: yes out of range is the same
[06:53] <rpvonz> are you sure the button will work?
[06:53] <raylu> Peruna, mount -l
[06:53] <rpvonz> ill probably be back
[06:53] <rpvonz> *probably
[06:53] <rpvonz> =)
[06:53] <nixternal> I would get that every now and then as it seems when leaving the bootup procedure, the lcd wouldn't refresh and would get stuck at a lower res then what was being pushed
[06:53] <rpvonz> kk
[06:54] <Peruna> I already have hda1 in use atm
[06:54] <rpvonz> that sounds perfectly plausible, thanks for all your guys' help
[06:54] <raylu> Peruna, what do you mean in use?
[06:54] <nixternal> rpvonz: not guaranteeing it, because if it works for me, it may not work for you, but just a shot in the dark :)
[06:54] <Peruna> driver list has hda1 folder
[06:54] <Peruna> so I think the driver is mounted
[06:55] <raylu> Peruna, er...you mean drive?
[06:55] <Peruna> media folder has hda1
[06:55] <raylu> Peruna, oh, you tried the thing I said, not what stdin said, I think
[06:55] <raylu> use: umount /dev/hda
[06:55] <ctw> stdin: hold on, I think I might have found a way to solve the problem
[06:56] <ctw> stdin: give me a min
[06:56] <Peruna> umount dev/hda1
[06:56] <Peruna> umount: dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[06:56] <Peruna> ./dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[06:56] <stdin> Peruna: put a / bedore dev, it's important
[06:57] <Peruna> same result
[06:57] <Dr_willis> heh..
[06:57] <raylu> it actually says "/dev/hda1" isn't mounted? o.0
[06:57] <Peruna> yeah
[06:57] <Dr_willis> i always mount /media/hda1
[06:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> but i dont think it matters
[06:58] <Dr_willis> mount | grep hda
[06:58] <Dr_willis> see if it says its mounted.
[06:58] <Peruna> actually hda1 has been there in /media/ since I installed Kubuntu
[06:58] <Peruna> umount dev/hda1
[06:58] <Peruna> umount: dev/hda1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[06:59] <Peruna> oops
[06:59] <Peruna> ./dev/disk/by-uuid/7A6C50026C4FB821 on /media/hda1 type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other)
[06:59] <raylu> what the hell?
[06:59] <dasickis> how do you get suspend to work?
[06:59] <stdin> heh, UUIDs :P
[06:59] <rpvonz> lol it didn't work
[06:59] <rpvonz> apparently my monitor doesn't let me do anything when its over range
[07:00] <stdin> Peruna: try "umount /media/hda1" instead
[07:00] <raylu> o.0, so what's with this UUID thing?
[07:00] <dasickis> rpvonz: who are you talking to ?
[07:00] <Peruna> umount: /media/hda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[07:00] <rpvonz> idk
[07:00] <Peruna> with -l ?
[07:00] <raylu> the channel, i suppose; a bunch of people helped him
[07:00] <stdin> !uuid | raylu
[07:00] <ubotu> raylu: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:00] <rpvonz> someone who gave me that crappy answer =)
[07:00] <raylu> Peruna, mount -l lists everything about what's mounted
[07:00] <LL_Hakaisou> !firewall
[07:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:00] <dasickis> oo i thought it was directed to me but there's like 10 conversations in this place at once
[07:00] <stdin> raylu: it's a unique identifier for each partition
[07:00] <Peruna> oh
[07:00] <ctw> stdin: Bingo! It all works now!
[07:01] <raylu> stdin, i did that already, but I don't
[07:01] <raylu> oh
[07:01] <LL_Hakaisou> !Guarddog
[07:01] <ctw> stdin: thanks so much for your help
[07:01] <Peruna> sigh not working
[07:01] <ctw> stdin: I followed your advice from earlier
[07:01] <ctw> stdin: and re-installed several libraries
[07:01] <ctw> stdin: and now it all works again
[07:01] <stdin> raylu: you could shrink, grow, or move the partition, and the UUID would be the same
[07:01] <rpvonz> so should i just reinstall kubuntu since the signal is overrange because of the fglrx drivers
[07:01] <ctw> stdin: yey!
[07:01] <stdin> ctw: wooh :P
[07:01] <rpvonz> ...this is why i still have windows...
[07:02] <dasickis> rpvonz: can't u just uninstall the fglrx drivers?
[07:02] <raylu> !gawk
[07:02] <ubotu> gawk: GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.5.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1940 kB
[07:02] <rpvonz> ahem i'm a newb at linux dasickis
[07:02] <dasickis> rpvonz: and use the generic ati drivers?
[07:02] <stdin> ctw: those were some fun errors to sort out :P
[07:02] <rpvonz> i used generic i think...
[07:02] <rpvonz> fglrx is generic right?
[07:02] <dasickis> wait so what's your problem?
[07:03] <stdin> rpvonz: no
[07:03] <rpvonz> signal overragne
[07:03] <dasickis> no its the propietary driver
[07:03] <rpvonz> ah
[07:03] <rpvonz> i dont like generic...
[07:03] <stdin> rpvonz: "ati" is the open driver (IIRC)
[07:03] <ctw> stdin: I didn't even know where to start ... I had never seen that before
[07:03] <ctw> stdin: I thought it was a feisty issue
[07:03] <rpvonz> well... why do my windows lag...
[07:03] <ctw> stdin: but when my computer at home didn't have those problems, I got suspicious
[07:03] <stdin> ctw: truth is, I'd never seen those errors before either
[07:04] <scarvell> rpvonz: you running XGL or Beryl in the background?
[07:04] <dasickis> ctw: is feisty a lot of trouble to upgrade to?
[07:04] <ctw> stdin: at least you seem to have some better linux problem solving skillz than I ... :)
[07:04] <Joshooa> stdin: Did you say something to me just a minute ago?
[07:04] <ctw> dasickis: it was really easy
[07:04] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[07:04] <dasickis> oo ok
[07:04] <ctw> dasickis: the easiest upgrade so far
[07:04] <dasickis> ctw: does suspend work well?
[07:04] <stdin> Joshooa: nope, not that I can see
[07:05] <ctw> dasickis: definitely better than edgy
[07:05] <dasickis> ctw: thanks
[07:05] <ctw> dasickis: suspend has worked for me
[07:05] <dasickis> ctw: nice i'll upgrade now
[07:05] <Joshooa> Hmm, okay, I closed Kopete and it said that i had one from you, oh well guess nt
[07:05] <ctw> dasickis: better than edgy was meant for the install
[07:05] <ctw> dasickis: but I haven't had problems with suspend
[07:05] <stdin> ctw: years of fixing my own f***-ups :P
[07:05] <rpvonz> scarvell: no i'm not running xgl, thats kinda why i want the ati drivers.. =)
[07:06] <dasickis> rpvonz: are u trying to run compiz or something?
[07:06] <rpvonz> dasickis: yes, kinda...
[07:07] <dasickis> ctw: what's the best way to replace all the edgy instances in sources.list
[07:07] <dasickis> ?
[07:07] <sparr> i ran a game and now im stuck in 640x400 resolution.  kde control center cant change it, xrandr cant change it.  help?
[07:07] <dasickis> rpvonz: what directions did you follow?
[07:07] <rpvonz> dasickis: the ones on the ubuntu help...
[07:08] <dasickis> ctw: I'm want to learn how to do it via command line (CL)
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> ack o_0
[07:08] <ctw> dasickis: search and replace edgy -> feisty
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> i'll have to play with guarddog later
[07:08] <dasickis> ctw: what's the CL verison of that
[07:08] <ctw> dasickis: I've seen some instructions for a comand line command that does it, and that's what I used, but I had to look it up
[07:08] <ctw> dasickis: and I don't remember anymore
[07:08] <dasickis> ctw: oo thanks
[07:08] <ctw> dasickis: google it
[07:08] <stdin> dasickis: sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:08] <Joshooa> Can someone say my name so I can see what it will look like?
[07:08] <dasickis> i was thinking sed
[07:09] <ctw> stdin: I think there was something similar, but I'm sure that works too
[07:09] <dasickis> stdin: i need to learn regex do you have any good tutorials you know of besides google?
[07:09] <stdin> Joshooa
[07:10] <stdin> dasickis: I only know what I've experimented with, and with the help of kregexpeditor
[07:10] <dasickis> stdin: thanks that'll be quite handy
[07:10] <ctw> ok, got to go thanks again for the hlep
[07:11] <dasickis> after the feisty upgrade I need to restart right?
[07:11] <stdin> you can go with a sense of accomplishment now ctw :)
[07:11] <stdin> dasickis: yeah, to boot the new kernel
[07:12] <scarvell> DC SEND xenoix LINUX_ubuntu_6.10_ati_driver_and_support.txt
[07:12] <scarvell> oh whoops
[07:12] <scarvell> forgot the /
[07:12] <scarvell> XD
[07:12] <stdin> :P
[07:12] <dasickis> stdin: yeah I figured but it's always a pain
[07:14] <sparr> something has royally f*cked my xorg.conf.  it now has only 5 resolutions, not including my max 1280x1024, including some weird ones like 1280x854.  X is now running with a viewport.  pre-reboot, xrandr listed a dozen valid resolutions.  help?
[07:14] <stdin> dasickis: this box has been online for 4 days, that's short for what I normally do, but with all the feisty updates, sometimes you need to restart
[07:14] <dasickis> stdin: once I upgrade to feisty I'll lose all my kernel changes right?
[07:14] <dasickis> stdin: yeah, it just reminds me of windoze days
[07:14] <stdin> dasickis: yeah, feisty is on 2.6.20-9 now, but you can still use the old kernel, it shouldn't be uninstalled
[07:15] <dasickis> stdin: oo no that's good, I've made so many changes I needed to rollback
[07:15] <dasickis> stdin: I've had to install edgy so many times because of my experimentations
[07:15] <dasickis> stdin: I'm pretty sure my HP is going to die soon due to my abuse
[07:16] <stdin> dasickis: nah, I've been abusing my HP for years :P
[07:16] <dasickis> stdin: but there's no other way for me to learn except without testing everything to its limits
[07:16] <dasickis> stdin: that's good to hear because my HP always sounds like death
[07:16] <stdin> dasickis: but I did have a HDD blowup one
[07:16] <dasickis> stdin: they make pretty good stuff
[07:16] <dasickis> stdin: lol wow
[07:17] <stdin> dasickis: yeah, it was quite a surprise :P
[07:17] <scarvell> i also recently lost a hdd
[07:17] <scarvell> it died :(
[07:17] <dasickis> stdin: actually my external died
[07:17] <dasickis> stdin: i'm trying to see if its under seagate warranty but I can't find out
[07:17] <dasickis> stdin: I think it was because I naively pulled it out without unmounting
[07:18] <dasickis> stdin: i did this multiple times, quite stupid on my part
[07:18] <stdin> dasickis: yeah, just ask ctw about unmounting cleanly, he knows :P
[07:18] <dasickis> stdin: but you live and learn so it's not all lost i learned pretty good lesson
[07:19] <dasickis> stdin: what happend with him?
[07:19] <dasickis> stdin: happened*
[07:19] <stdin> dasickis: pulled the power, and this heppend: http://pastebin.ca/384576
[07:19] <albert> !hidden
[07:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:20] <stdin> dasickis: lots of files got screwed
[07:20] <dasickis> stdin: wow, yeah I lost a lot of stuff as well but I think I can recover them somehow I just need to buy another harddrive sorta blows
[07:21] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[07:21] <raylu> ack
[07:21] <raylu> guarddog disabled all protocols by default...
[07:22] <stdin> dasickis: yeah, I lost some data when mine went, as the disks got warped and I didn't want to spend thousands on data recovery, but I keep good backups, so it wasn't too bad
[07:23] <Lamington> hey folks
[07:23] <dasickis> stdin: yeah next comp I build will use RAID 0+1
[07:23] <Lamington> I got someone here who wants to put Linux on a machine with only 64meg of ram
[07:23] <Lamington> any suggestions ?
[07:23] <dasickis> stdin: and I'll invest in an external for critical data
[07:23] <raylu> Lamington, xfce, of course
[07:24] <Lamington> xfce in 64meg ?
[07:24] <Lamington> u sure ?
[07:24] <stdin> Lamington: xubuntu maybe
[07:24] <raylu> If i can run servers on WinME on 64MB of RAM, it better work :D
[07:24] <Lamington> xubuntu needs 128meg
[07:24] <raylu> oh...guess not...
[07:24] <dasickis> use DSL
[07:24] <Lamington> nooo
[07:24] <dasickis> or slax
[07:24] <Lamington> slax... hmmm
[07:25] <me2win_> dont even need xfce, just use CLI
[07:25] <stdin> Lamington: 64MB isn't going to be able to do much nowadays
[07:25] <dasickis> fluxbox
[07:25] <dasickis> is used with DSL
[07:25] <Lamington> stdin: yes I know
[07:26] <raylu> To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.
[07:26] <raylu> (from the xubuntu website)
[07:26] <Lamington> aww man
[07:27] <Lamington> you need 96meg of ram to run Slax with Fluxbox
[07:27] <albert> hmm my hidden files aren't shown in the navigation-area of the konqueror
[07:27] <dasickis> Lamington: what's wrong with DSL?
[07:27] <stdin> 64MB would be ok for a text only server, but for any GUI desktop, you'll probably need more
[07:27] <Lamington> yeah
[07:28] <albert> !firewall
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:28] <raylu> actually...you'd be surprised how far 64MB takes you....
[07:29] <dasickis> Lamington: you could try installing ubuntu alternate cd and then install fluxbox on top of that
[07:29] <Lamington> hmm
[07:30] <dasickis> or or use twm
[07:30] <dasickis> tab window manager
[07:32] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[07:33] <raylu> where are the log files for guarddog/iptables?
[07:34] <Peruna> How can I add/remove driver icons on Desktop ?
[07:34] <stdin> raylu: in syslog
[07:34] <raylu> um...where's that?
[07:34] <raylu> Peruna, mounted drives or drivers?
[07:34] <Peruna> mounted ones
[07:35] <stdin> raylu: /var/log/syslog
[07:35] <adydas_> Is there a search function simlar to windows search that i can use to search a folder for files? and folders?
[07:35] <raylu> Peruna, right-click > new > shortcut, I believe
[07:35] <raylu> adydas_, it's in the KMenu
[07:35] <adydas_> i must pass it so many times a day
[07:36] <Peruna> rayla: oh lol thnx
[07:37] <Peruna> rayla: how about removing ? I have usbdisk and hda1 and would like to remove them ( Delete doesnt work, gives error)
[07:37] <milardovich> somebody who uses python with apache??
[07:37] <milardovich> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[07:39] <raylu> !question | milardovich
[07:39] <ubotu> milardovich: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:39] <raylu> Peruna, you could either safely remove...or tell me what error
[07:39] <raylu> (safely remove basically means unmount)
[07:39] <milardovich> ok, i cant install python module on my apache on my kubuntu edgy eft
[07:40] <raylu> what have you done so far?
[07:40] <saw2434> I believe I successfully installed kubuntu on my external hard drive, but when I select to boot from the "usb device" my computer doesn't do anything.
[07:40] <saw2434> Can anyone help?
[07:40] <Peruna> raylu: hda1 can't be unmounted ( no idea why not) and can't be deleted either
[07:41] <me2win_> saw2434: make sure the usb port you are using in on the motherboard
[07:41] <me2win_> saw2434: not PCI and not in the front
[07:41] <raylu> Peruna, do you want to remove it from your desktop or unmount it
[07:41] <saw2434> me2win: So I assume in the back would suffice?
[07:42] <Peruna> remove from desktop
[07:42] <me2win_> saw2434: yeah, as long as it isnt in a PCI one
[07:42] <intelikey> it's taking ages/eons/eternities... to remove all these packages...
[07:42] <raylu> Peruna, darn :(. I never actually understood what the icon on the desktop meant
[07:42] <raylu> and I've never worked up the courage for sudo rm
[07:42] <intelikey> well several minutes then.
[07:42] <saw2434> me2win: the first time I tried, the screen went black and did some weird thinkgs, then it eventually booted into windows
[07:43] <saw2434> the second time i tried the screen just went black with a white curser blinking in the top left hand corner
[07:43] <Peruna> :(
[07:44] <saw2434> me2win: I read somewhere that changing the boot order to have the usb device boot before the main hd would work...but isn't that if I primarily want to use kubuntu?
[07:45] <raylu> saw2434, it seems like it already is prioritizing the usb device before the hd
[07:45] <raylu> the problem seems to be with the install on the hd
[07:45] <intelikey> saw2434 grub can be set to default to any os and can display a menu of the installed/bootable os's
[07:45] <saw2434> raylu: well i still have to select the external from the boot menu
[07:45] <intelikey> so can lilo.
[07:45] <raylu> saw2434, oh...then yes, you're correct
[07:46] <raylu> either way, I wouldn't worry about it until the install on your usb drive worked
[07:46] <raylu> intelikey, do you prefer lilo or grub?
[07:46] <saw2434> intelikey: I know I installed the grub to /dev/sdb1...could that be the problem? sdb was my external hard drive
[07:46] <raylu> (and why does ubotu recommend grub)
[07:47] <intelikey> raylu i am forced to use lilo.  grub is too weak to boot partitionless disks.
[07:47] <raylu> intelikey, in that case, do you happen to know where I could configure grub?
[07:48] <intelikey> saw2434 yes you should not install to a partition if you intend it to be the primary boot loader.
[07:48] <intelikey> raylu yes.  /boot/grub/menu.lst      also /boot/grub/devices.list   i think that's the name...
[07:49] <saw2434> intelikey: so I should install it to my hda? how will that work if I want to dual boot with windows?
[07:49] <intelikey> saw2434 it will let you choose windows or linux.  that's what a boot loader does.
[07:49] <raylu> intelikey, oh, I was hoping for a gui config like there was in suse/yast...i'll have a look
[07:50] <intelikey> boot loaders facilitate a means for choosing what os you wish to "boot" .
[07:50] <LL_Hakaisou> !comtroller
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comtroller - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <LL_Hakaisou> whoops
[07:50] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[07:50] <intelikey> raylu yeah.  i think there is.  in kcontrol maybe  not sure.
[07:51] <LL_Hakaisou> question...
[07:51] <intelikey> raylu a pointy clicky thingy... ^
[07:51] <raylu> ?
[07:51] <LL_Hakaisou> is there any way to use my corded XBox 360 controller inside Kubuntu?
[07:51] <intelikey> as i said i'm not sure.
[07:52] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou i'm sure there is.   but don't get me started lying about howto.  it's really not my turn...
[07:52] <saw2434> thanks intelikey
[07:53] <LL_Hakaisou> lol
[07:53] <LL_Hakaisou> i actually have found a howto for it
[07:53] <LL_Hakaisou> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164040&highlight=xbox+controller
[07:54] <intelikey> just camping out in cyber space, chillin' wif my homeys...  digin' on the scens and grovin' to .ogg files
[07:55] <intelikey> NO. I AM NOT A HIPPY !
[07:55] <LL_Hakaisou> lawl
[07:55] <LL_Hakaisou> and now for my current project
[07:55] <LL_Hakaisou> installing moto4lin
[07:55] <LL_Hakaisou> !moto4lin
[07:55] <ubotu> moto4lin: file manager and seem editor for Motorola phones (like C380/C650). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3+cvs20050925-2 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:56] <intelikey> i just ran like this command as root... is that a bad thing ?
[07:56] <intelikey> for Q in $(dpkg -l | grep '^ii ' | cut -d ' ' -f3 )
[07:56] <intelikey>     do apt-get remove --purge -y $Q
[07:56] <intelikey> done
[07:57] <intelikey> sure is a lot of disk activity.
[07:57] <LL_Hakaisou> o_0
[07:57] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[07:57] <LL_Hakaisou> *raises blast shield*
[07:58] <intelikey> i'm given' er' all she's got cappin'
[07:58] <LL_Hakaisou> g++
[07:58] <LL_Hakaisou> !g++
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:58] <intelikey> ah man there went xorg
[07:59] <LL_Hakaisou> uhoh
[07:59] <raylu> intelikey, I don't see the gui-ed grub config...lots of fun stuff to play with though :D
[07:59] <LL_Hakaisou> reboot wiht F8 in safe mode intelikey
[07:59] <VanessaE> ew
[07:59] <intelikey> just wait until it tries to remove dpkg    lol
[08:00] <VanessaE> and I thought I was a masochist for running feisty this soon :)
[08:00] <intelikey> no i really ran that command.  i'm uninstalling all packages that can be uninstalled by apt without  "Yes, I know this is a bad idea, now do as i say!"
[08:00] <VanessaE> lol
[08:01] <intelikey> raylu hmmm there may not be one.    obviously i can't check right now...
[08:02] <raylu> yeah, it's fine; thanks
[08:03] <intelikey> my system was getting too personal for me...    like there was nothing left to configure in the box and i had started reconfiguring the user....  can't have that....
[08:03] <me2win_> get gentoo
[08:04] <intelikey> yeah i had it installed and configured too
[08:04] <intelikey> oh you mean the distro.  :)
[08:04] <LL_Hakaisou> uggh
[08:04] <LL_Hakaisou> now, i don't mind how linux installations work anymore
[08:04] <raylu> woo hoo.
[08:04] <raylu> let's hope I didn't screw up my grubloader :D
[08:04] <intelikey> me2win_ dialup prevents such extensive downloading...
[08:05] <LL_Hakaisou> but jesus christ i hate it when i'm fucking with the configure>make>make install format and i find an apt-get entry for the proggy i'm working with
[08:05] <intelikey> yeah don't that make you blow beans ...
[08:06] <LL_Hakaisou> yea
[08:06] <LL_Hakaisou> meh, whatever
[08:06] <LL_Hakaisou> I also wish i had a log of programs i have installed on my system
[08:06] <intelikey> dpkg -l > installed.log
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> LL_Hakaisou: there is a way to do it
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> sec
[08:08] <LL_Hakaisou> hey, that would be nifty
[08:08] <me2win_> intelikey: most people like gentoo because it is so customizable, or at least that they can compile with so many options
[08:08] <deathnote> hi, can kubuntu be installed from a USB CD-rom drive?
[08:08] <intelikey> me2win_ but most of those people are not restricted to dialup.
[08:09] <intelikey> deathnote if you can boot it you can install from it.
[08:09] <LL_Hakaisou> if your BIOS supports booting from USB devices and is configured as such, i don't see why not
[08:09] <Joshooa> how do I register with freenode to get my nick saved?
[08:09] <intelikey> !register
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> dang can't find it.
[08:09] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> LL_Hakaisou: man apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg
[08:10] <intelikey> dpkg -l > installed.log
[08:10] <Joshooa> oh wait I think I got it, extra e on nickserv
[08:10] <Moltov> Ello, Ive got a little bit of a wireless setup issue... i have a wua 2340 dlink usb wireless card, and while, i got it to install, whenever it starts trying to use it... kubuntu just... freezes...
[08:10] <raylu> Joshooa, use /ns
[08:10] <raylu> instead of /msg nickserv
[08:10] <deathnote> intelikey: i can boot from it..but i can't install
[08:10] <Joshooa> I did /msg nickserve, whoops
[08:10] <Moltov> It blinks tho! Heh...
[08:10] <raylu> Moltov, they say that the latest kernel has issues with wireless connectivity... (though I don't notice a difference)
[08:10] <intelikey> raylu /ns would be an irc client alias.    'client specific'
[08:11] <raylu> Joshooa, yeah, I was doing that when I first used IRC a ton
[08:11] <deathnote> intelikey: if i use the text-base, it says no comon cd-rom drive was detected.. for graphical it says couldn't find /root something
[08:11] <raylu> yeah, but every client I've ever used has had it
[08:11] <Joshooa> /ns nickserv
[08:11] <Joshooa> not me
[08:11] <Moltov> Interesting, ive experianced the exact opposite... And found one person on the forums who experianced simular, if im not mistaken, the post was pre-6.10 being released.
[08:11] <raylu> Joshooa, huh?
[08:11] <deathnote> intelikey: what can i do?
[08:11] <intelikey> deathnote ah you need support for the device in the booted kernel initrd pair.
[08:11] <Joshooa> well wouldn't typing /ns not put it in the room then?
[08:11] <raylu> Moltov, are you using the wlan assistant?
[08:12] <raylu> Joshooa, neither /msg nor /ns puts it in the room. /msg nickserv = /ns
[08:12] <deathnote> intelikey: do u mean downloading the modules for the cdrom?
[08:12] <raylu> chatting to the room is /msg #kubuntu [message] 
[08:12] <Moltov> Raylu; Good question... ^.^' i... have no clue, all the directions i followed were imputed through console.
[08:12] <deathnote> intelikey: where can i get more info about this?
[08:12] <raylu> Moltov, oh...I was about to suggest you stop using the wlan assitant and start using the console....heh
[08:12] <Joshooa> if I type /ns it put it in the room though, msg works
[08:13] <Joshooa> /ns nickserv
[08:13] <intelikey> deathnote no.  i mean the initrd.img on the cd is not detecting/setting.up the device.   i'm sure there is a way.
[08:13] <Joshooa> but the help isn't doing anything for me
[08:13] <raylu> Joshooa, er...what client are you using?
[08:13] <Moltov> Raylu; Yeah... Oh right, yeah, i tried wlan assistant, it ignores the card exists...
[08:13] <Joshooa> kopete
[08:13] <LL_Hakaisou> bah!
[08:13] <raylu> hm... :( ok, so have you gotten yourself registered yet?
[08:13] <Joshooa> no
[08:13] <Moltov> Raylu; it does however note to be installed and connected according to ndiswrapper
[08:13] <intelikey> deathnote maybe passing root=/dev/sda  to the kernel at boot or something.
[08:13] <LL_Hakaisou> if only i could get this damn phone to pass through to vmware...
[08:13] <Joshooa> I got a message window open
[08:13] <raylu> Moltov, what does ifconfig show? is your card listed there?
[08:14] <raylu> Joshooa, /msg nickserv help register
[08:14] <Moltov> Raylu; una momento hehe
[08:14] <intelikey> deathnote did you read through the help screens on the boot disk at the boot prompt ?
[08:14] <deathnote> intelikey: if i boot in graphical, it will turn out to be at "BusyBox" and a command prompt
[08:14] <Joshooa> nothing
[08:14] <Joshooa> it just puts it in my window with him, of me talking
[08:14] <raylu> oh, if you're in a query window already
[08:15] <raylu> just type help register to him
[08:15] <Joshooa> same
[08:15] <raylu> it should say something like [01:14:29]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[08:15] <Joshooa> just text
[08:15] <intelikey> deathnote yes that's because it's not mounting /
[08:15] <raylu> yeah...of course it's just text...
[08:15] <Joshooa> no, I mean it shows exactly what I type
[08:15] <Joshooa> no response
[08:15] <raylu> oh
[08:15] <Joshooa> ya
[08:15] <raylu> have you tried sending it just "help register"
[08:15] <raylu> ?
[08:15] <Joshooa> yeah
[08:15] <raylu> o.0s
[08:15] <deathnote> intelikey: yeah there's a Other Options if i press F6
[08:16] <Joshooa> even if I do /msg nickserv help register, only help register appears
[08:16] <raylu> Joshooa, try: /query nickserv help register
[08:16] <deathnote> intelikey: and i see this
[08:16] <Joshooa> help register appears
[08:16] <raylu> o.0ness
[08:16] <raylu> Joshooa, perhaps you should try Konversation :D
[08:16] <intelikey> deathnote i've been there.  but as for just walking you through what to do...  hmmm     mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda  ;modprobe <the right drivers>  mount /dev/sda /root and exit....
[08:16] <Joshooa> ok
[08:17] <Joshooa> Also
[08:17] <Joshooa> How can I be sure that when I reboot my internet will work?
[08:17] <deathnote> intelikey: file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quyiet splash --
[08:17] <Joshooa> Cause I don't think I've rebooted since I got it working, and it's a pain to make it work
[08:17] <intelikey> finding the right drivers may be the twist in the pigs tail there.
[08:17] <stdin> intelikey: s/mknode/mknod/"
[08:17] <raylu> Joshooa, in the system settings > network, you can specify a device to be loaded on startup in its properties
[08:17] <Joshooa> But I think when I reboot, it wont show my network card
[08:17] <intelikey> stdin yes.   typo king still reigns
[08:17] <Joshooa> it reverts back to saying my wired connected aren't configured
[08:18] <intelikey> see ^
[08:18] <Joshooa> connections*
[08:18] <Moltov> Raylu; *chuckles* this will take another few min, i had it rebooting when i came in here, and lol, appernetly i sucseeded in configuring it right to automaticaly turn on during boot... Which freezes it, of course.
[08:18] <Joshooa> I have to then do something to add my wireless card, then dhclient to make it even see it, and then I forgot what but I saved my last konsole thing in a text file
[08:18] <raylu> haha. that reminds me of when I told apache to run on startup on my 266mhz,64MB ram winME machine...
[08:19] <raylu> Joshooa, if you're sure those steps are necessary, you could add them to the startup script
[08:19] <Moltov> Raylu; Well, this baby is a bit faster than that... 800mhz p3 with half a gig of ram...
[08:19] <intelikey> did i loose contact when that package left me ?
[08:19] <deathnote> intelikey: do u mean during the installation i get into the shell and type that command?
[08:19] <intelikey> ah guess not.
[08:19] <Moltov> Raylu; And by baby, i mean frankinstines baby...
[08:19] <josh__> whoops, I re-entered the room
[08:19] <intelikey> deathnote no at the bustbox prompt.
[08:20] <deathnote> ohh ok i'll get into it first..brb
[08:20] <Joshooa> man it's  alot harder to talk in Konverstation :)
[08:20] <intelikey> to get into the cd system
[08:20] <raylu> Joshooa, it is?
[08:20] <Joshooa> To do the /msg #kubuntu thing yeah, I got an error
[08:20] <intelikey> deathnote warning i'm expecting one of these packages to clip my wings....
[08:20] <intelikey> so if i disappear don't take it personal
[08:20] <Moltov> Raylu; Ah joy... one more reboot and a config-removal and ill be able to tell you heh...
[08:21] <Joshooa> but nickserv works in it
[08:21] <Joshooa> so, brb
[08:21] <raylu> er...you don't have to /msg #kubuntu...
[08:21] <raylu> that's just what's going on behind the scenes
[08:21] <Joshooa> it gave me an error though when I said oops
[08:21] <raylu> you can just type :D
[08:21] <Joshooa> ok well brb
[08:22] <deathnote> intelikey: sorry... modprobe <right drivers> what are the right drivers for a usb cdrom??
[08:22] <intelikey> deathnote let me look....
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> i wonder how much wine pisses of microsoft...
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> just a thought
[08:24] <intelikey> deathnote usbcore
[08:24] <intelikey> deathnote usb-storage
[08:25] <deathnote> mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda doesn't work hmmm
[08:25] <slylyias> I have somehow managed to have my external HD (usb, ntfs) owned by 'root' when I "sudo chown <username> EXTERNAL" it says "Chown: changing ownership of external/ read only file system...
[08:25] <slylyias> and then does nothing
[08:25] <slylyias> Can anyone help me?
[08:25] <raylu> LL_Hakaisou, not much. think about how much they actually lose from it
[08:25] <deathnote> so its mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda ; modprobe usb-storage
[08:25] <slylyias> Still shows up as owned by root
[08:25] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm not upgrading to Vista cause of it
[08:25] <raylu> slylyias, remount?
[08:25] <slylyias> how?
[08:25] <intelikey> deathnote sd_mod
[08:25] <LL_Hakaisou> there's 400 bucks they don't get
[08:25] <raylu> sly
[08:25] <raylu> ack
[08:26] <raylu> slylyias, umount /dev/hdwhatever, mount /dev/hdwhatever
[08:26] <intelikey> deathnote scsi_mod
[08:26] <slylyias> raylu: How do I know what device it is?
[08:26] <stdin> deathnote: mknod, not mknode
[08:26] <raylu> LL_Hakaisou, actually, most people won't be "upgrading" to vista at all. they'll buy computers with vista pre-installed
[08:26] <intelikey> deathnote sr_mod
[08:26] <sredna> hi
[08:26] <deathnote> err
[08:26] <intelikey> deathnote i think that's all.
[08:26] <raylu> slylyias, it'll be listed under /media
[08:26] <raylu> !hi | sredna
[08:26] <ubotu> sredna: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:26] <deathnote> sr_mod b 8 0 /dev/sda ?
[08:26] <intelikey> no
[08:26] <slylyias> I don't see it there, raylu.
[08:27] <sredna> the startkde script in feisty appears not to run ~/.kde/env/*.sh like it should ?
[08:27] <intelikey> the only thing that has    b 8 0 /dev/sda    is mknod
[08:27] <LL_Hakaisou> that still counts as a sold copy of vista buddy
[08:27] <raylu> slylyias, actually...since it's owned by root, you might need to kdesu konquerer
[08:27] <LL_Hakaisou> they buyer still pays for it
[08:27] <intelikey> deathnote mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda
[08:27] <LL_Hakaisou> it's just pre installed
[08:27] <intelikey> then all the modprobe lines
[08:27] <stdin> sredna: feisty questions in #kubuntu-devel and #kubutnu+1 please
[08:27] <slylyias> kdesu konqerur, huh?
[08:27] <intelikey> then see if you can mount /dev/sda /root
[08:27] <raylu> LL_Hakaisou, right, but it's cheaper technically. ms makes more money on upgrades
[08:28] <raylu> slylyias, yes, alt+f2, kdesu konqueror
[08:28] <sredna> sorry, stdin
[08:28] <deathnote> there's no /dev/sda
[08:28] <deathnote> sda = cdrom?
[08:28] <stdin> sredna: :)
[08:28] <intelikey> you mknode that
[08:28] <pirothezero> if i need to execute a ./executable every 6 hours what would be the best way of obtaining that? bash script?
[08:28] <intelikey> yes it should
[08:28] <raylu> !cron
[08:28] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:28] <|Cugel|> piro: cron
[08:28] <stdin> pirothezero: cron
[08:28] <Moltov> Raylu; gyeh, cant find the modprobe config i accidentaly made doing ndiswrapper -m... >.<
[08:28] <raylu> lol
[08:28] <pirothezero> for some reason my sabnzbd randomly closes and I want to stop that
[08:28] <pirothezero> ahh ok
[08:28] <pirothezero> thx
[08:28] <raylu> Moltov, you just went over my head :P
[08:29] <|Cugel|> I've never used cron myself but I know it works.
[08:29] <deathnote> when i type mknode b 8 0 /dev/sda it keeps coming out the help thing
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <raylu> pirothezero, perhaps the answer is to stop it from "randomly" closing
[08:29] <deathnote> i modprobe usbcore and usb-storage
[08:29] <stdin> pirothezero: you can use kcron to do it in a GUI
[08:29] <pirothezero> i agree with that but there are no reports of it happening to other people
[08:29] <pirothezero> and the logs dont say anything
[08:29] <Moltov> Raylu; its WAY over my head techicaly, but realy its just a little line of code added to some stupid little config file... or such somewhere.
[08:29] <intelikey> when it's driver is inserted into the kernel   the system should recognize sda as your cdrom drive         deathnote   no e on mknod
[08:30] <intelikey> mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda
[08:30] <Moltov> Raylu; its making it automaticaly try turning on a configuration of the divice... Which, of course, givin my situation, crashes the computer.
[08:30] <LL_Hakaisou> either way, it's money that M$ doesn't get
[08:30] <stdin> intelikey, deathnote: mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
[08:30] <deathnote> ops its mknod
[08:30] <deathnote> i paste it wrongly here
[08:30] <raylu> Moltov, is it listed in kmenu > system settings > network settings?
[08:30] <pirothezero> ~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/.SABnzbd.py -d -f SABnzbd.ini I just put this for program?
[08:31] <intelikey> stdin did i have the syntax backwards.... ?   eeeek  has been a while hasn't it.
[08:31] <deathnote> ok modprobe usbcore usb-storage sd_mod sr_mod scsi_mod
[08:31] <intelikey> man mknod
[08:31] <intelikey> bash: /usr/bin/man: No such file or directory
[08:31] <stdin> intelikey: heh, just checked mknod --help, and it says "Usage: mknod [OPTION] ... NAME TYPE [MAJOR MINOR] "
[08:31] <intelikey> i can't check.
[08:31] <deathnote> mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda (it comes out the help)
[08:31] <Moltov> Raylu; <.< The setting? prehaps... The card? No, atm connecting it to the computer causes insta freeze >.<
[08:31] <intelikey> then yep.
[08:32] <raylu> Moltov, oh...it's not connected? :(
[08:32] <stdin> deathnote: use "mknod /dev/sda b 8 0" not "mknod b 8 0 /dev/sda"
[08:32] <intelikey> deathnote did you see what stdin said.  said i gave the wrong syntax.    mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
[08:32] <intelikey> the device name perceeds the specifics...  my bad.
[08:33] <deathnote> ok! it works
[08:33] <intelikey> stdin would you care to take over that one ?
[08:33] <deathnote> mounting now
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then.
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> linux can see my motorola Q
[08:33] <deathnote> mounting failed.. no such device or address
[08:33] <deathnote> but in /dev there is a sda now
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> now all i need to figure out is out to access it
[08:34] <intelikey> deathnote still need a driver.
[08:34] <stdin> intelikey: not so much, I don't really know how to help much here
[08:34] <intelikey> stdin can you find out what drivers are needed to mount usb cdrom device ?
[08:34] <Joshooa> So, I guess I got it registered, I don't know, it didn't ask for a PW when I logged in just now
[08:34] <deathnote> oic...
[08:35] <slylyias> Okay, no one seems to be able to help me with my mismounted external HD. :(
[08:35] <intelikey> deathnote you can use modprobe -l     to list the avalable drivers and start testing anything that looks usb'ish
[08:36] <Joshooa> Now listening to:smallville.s01e17.Reaper.ws.ac3.dvdrip.xvid-vf.avi
[08:36] <slylyias> Please, I'm begging, can someone help me?
[08:36] <intelikey> deathnote also  shift+pgup will let you scroll up text that went by too quick to see.
[08:37] <deathnote> etci-hcd ?
[08:37] <deathnote> ok
[08:38] <deathnote> after loading modprobe XXX do i need to mknod XXX again?
[08:40] <Moltov> Raylu; Ok, got rid of that stupid line heh, just took me a while to find the right config file...
[08:40] <Moltov> Raylu; So, now... What was that command you wanted me to run ^.^" or did you vanish...
[08:41] <stdin> intelikey: should be cdrom, ide-cd, sr_mod, scsi_mod, usbcore and usb-storage (all I can find)
[08:42] <deathnote> ok i loaded a few more modules..
[08:42] <deathnote> how to remove /dev/sda and mknod again ?
[08:42] <deathnote> or does it just takes effect?
[08:42] <Joshooa> slylyias: I doubt it but I can try, what's going on?
[08:42] <Moltov> Raylu; *chuckles* Martian Third Strike Force to Raylu?
[08:42] <stdin> deathnote: it should just work
[08:43] <deathnote> hmm still can't mount.. anyway
[08:43] <deathnote> i'm using a usb cdrom
[08:45] <Moltov> Well... Anyone elce adventurous enough to see if they can help with my odd wireless issue>\?
[08:45] <deathnote> i can't lsusb ..
[08:45] <Joshooa> Moltov: I'm adventurous
[08:46] <deathnote> brb
[08:46] <Moltov> Joshooa; Got any clue? According to ndiswrapper, its installed, and connected... From there, the direcotions i had found, the next step to configure the wireless connection, causes the computer to... erm, freeze, totaly.
[08:47] <Joshooa> Moltov: What kind of wireless card do you have?
[08:47] <Joshooa> Moltov: And what directions did you find, could I see them online?
[08:47] <Moltov> Joshooa; Dlink wua 2340
[08:47] <Moltov> Joshooa; easily, theyre on the ubuntu forums, gimme a sec to grab em
[08:47] <Joshooa> Moltov: BRB, I'm going to need a mountain dew for this
[08:48] <Moltov> Joshooa; Heh... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364014 I wish i had a Siera mist or such myself... *sighs* too many things going wrong at once
[08:49] <dasickis> hey i upgraded to feisty but for some reason it didn't update my menu.lst
[08:49] <dasickis> since I customized since I dual with Vista
[08:49] <Moltov> Joshooa; If your wondering, this is my old junkpile trying to connect to my newer junkpiles network card... Stupid laptop decided to shatter a fan berring...
[08:50] <Moltov> Joshooa; <.< And i dont even want to think of how hot it runs normaly, much less short a fan...
[08:50] <Joshooa> Moltov: Yeah totally, so, you're on this comp and trying to fix another comps wireless card then?
[08:51] <Moltov> Moltov; oh, the comp im on atm talking to you is my dads ^.^ its working perfectly
[08:51] <Moltov> er
[08:51] <Moltov> Joshooa; <,< hehe
[08:51] <Moltov> Joshooa; ^.^ Three computers involved in this dance...
[08:52] <Moltov> Joshooa; Only one were concerned with... But lol.
[08:52] <Joshooa> Moltov: So you can't configure your wireless card or your Grub boot thing is messed up?
[08:52] <Joshooa> Oh wait I see hol don
[08:52] <Moltov> Joshooa; Wireless card tries to turn on = frozen computer.
[08:52] <Joshooa>  ;-)
[08:53] <Moltov> Joshooa; Old junkpile im doing that on... is well, it WAS my slave, but it got promoted to backup...
[08:54] <Moltov> ndiswrapper -m
[08:54] <Moltov> modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:54] <Moltov> Joshooa; are the steps that causes freeze
[08:55] <Joshooa> ok
[08:56] <Moltov> Joshooa; and that, good sir, is where my knowlege ends... Though i do now nicely know how to undo nidswrapper -m.
[08:56] <Joshooa> Moltov: Awesome!
[08:57] <Moltov> Joshooa; Well, it doesnt help... Cus its still not online, but its booted, and hence why i returned to find the guy i was getitng help from, gone
[08:57] <Moltov> Joshooa; ^.^' that erm, config causes it to crash half way through loading kubuntu...
[08:58] <Moltov> Joshooa; being that, it tries to acitvate the card...
[08:58] <Moltov> Joshooa; the question is, you have any idea whats causing it to actualy crash in the first place, or how to find out ^.^"
[08:59] <Moltov> Joshooa; only reason i got this far, is my old dos 5/6 smarts... Config files are editible by hand... yeup yeup yeup >.>
[09:00] <Moltov> Joshooa; so i take it your thinking/referancing ^.^
[09:00] <Joshooa> Moltov: Yes and I was talking to my brother
[09:02] <Joshooa> Moltov: and when you do ndiswrapper -l, does it show driver installed, hardware present, or no?
[09:02] <ubuntu> Can anyone help me with a grub 21 error?
[09:02] <Moltov> Joshooa; both yes.
[09:04] <Joshooa> Moltov: Then you do ndiswrapper -m and modprobe ndiswrapper, and it freezes then or after the reboot?
[09:04] <Moltov> Joshooa; Zi moment it starts talking to the card... as in about 3-5 seconds latter, and if card is plugged in, on reboot too about halfway through kubuntus loading.
[09:07] <Joshooa> Moltov: Maybe you have to manually add it to /etc/modules
[09:09] <me2win_> err my bad
[09:09] <Moltov> Joshooa; ok, so, where and what do i type there? ^.^"
[09:09] <Hasrat_USA>  Beryl flies in Kubuntu Edgy :)
[09:10] <Hasrat_USA>  it would take MS some more 30 years to come up with an idea as stable and eye-dazzling as beryl
[09:12] <Joshooa> Moltov: Well....
[09:12] <Joshooa> Moltov: Hold on I've done this
[09:13] <Moltov> Joshooa; ... ... ... ^.^ ive got about 3hrs to spare, so no worries.
[09:15] <Joshooa> Moltov: Also, you could try asking if anyone in #ndiswrapper could help too
[09:15] <Moltov> Joshooa; On this server?
[09:16] <Joshooa> yeah
[09:16] <unix_infidel> yes
[09:17] <Moltov> Joshooa; yknow, your the first person to suggest that to me ever... sounds brilliant.
[09:17] <nknwd> hello all. i'm currently logged in with user X and running KDE. In a terminal, i've SU to use Y. Now, HOW do i run a graphical application as user Y in user X's KDE without getting an error about no screens found or something?
[09:18] <Moltov> Joshooa; I think i can hear crickets chirping over there... heh
[09:19] <unix_infidel> nknwd: use kdesu and specify a user.
[09:21] <nknwd> thanks unix_infidel
[09:43] <_4strO> yop yop
[09:44] <elijah> how will i install a new application in kubuntu?
[09:45] <_4strO> elijah: use adept
[09:45] <cpk1> or aptitude
[09:45] <cpk1> or apt-get
[09:45] <elijah> thru konsole?
[09:46] <_4strO> for aptitude and apt-get yes
[09:46] <AquaNuda> ...or Synaptic :)
[09:47] <TeePOG> hi there, i'm using KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu. My medianotifier fails to mount my usb flashdrives. I am using the plugdev group with pam_groups; the other groups/devices (like audio) work fine, and CDs are mounted correctly, but USB flashdrives do not
[09:47] <TeePOG> the medianotifier dialog pops up, but when I select "Open in New Window", nothing happens
[09:48] <Joshooa> Ok, I'm considering doing a fresh install of Kubuntu, to remove Windows, should I partition my hard drive into boot, swap, then my linux, or not? I just read a site that said I should create a 100mb boot partition but it doesn't say why
[09:50] <cpk1> TeePOG: I remember that used to happen to me, cant remember how it fixed itself though =P
[09:51] <cpk1> TeePOG: you should still be able to mount it manually
[09:52] <TeePOG> i am cpk1, but this is for a lab... it should happen automatically
[09:53] <elijah> thanks everyone
[09:54] <cpk1> for a lab?
[09:54] <cpk1> I remember there was something a long time ago with hal being broken but pretty sure it is all fixed now
[09:54] <cpk1> if you add it to fstab it might be able to automount then
[09:55] <TeePOG> but that's the point, it should be unnecessary, plugdev group takes care of that
[09:59] <embrik> I am not able to insert vide/music in Impress. I use Kubuntu dapper and oo20
[09:59] <hw__> !shell
[09:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:59] <hw__> !dash
[09:59] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 
[09:59] <hw__> or re-symlink to bash
[10:01] <TeePOG> cpk1: it seems the problem is that HAL doesn't support FAT32 volumes
[10:01] <hw__> dpkg-reconfigure dash
[10:01] <TeePOG> someone's idea of OSS
[10:03] <cpk1> interesting, but usbsticks arent fat32 i dont think...
[10:03] <Joshooa> I'm pretty sure usbsticks are fat32
[10:04] <Joshooa> Because I remember trying to make mine ntsf, when I was in windows, and couldn't
[10:05] <cpk1> hmm mine is fat16
[10:05] <Joshooa> I'm not sure though
[10:05] <Joshooa> hmm
[10:05] <Joshooa> how do I check mine?
[10:05] <cpk1> fdisk -l
[10:06] <Joshooa> mine says W95 FAT32
[10:06] <cpk1> how big is yours?
[10:06] <Joshooa> 1GB
[10:06] <cpk1> wierd
[10:06] <Joshooa> heh
[10:06] <cpk1> mines 1gB too
[10:06] <Joshooa> should fdisk list my hard drives too?
[10:06] <cpk1> probably not, it will if you use sudo
[10:07] <Joshooa> oh ok
[10:07] <Joshooa> I was like, I swear I've seen them before
[10:07] <Joshooa> Man I can't wait until I know more about what i'm doing
[10:07] <Joshooa> So not familiar with anything linux
[10:09] <Skuller> hey guys...can someone tell me how i can check my IP in kubuntu?..i am connected using an adsl modem which requires a UN and PW to be entered in the OS in 'pppoeconf'
[10:09] <Skuller> IP add*ress
[10:09] <Joshooa> iwconfig?
[10:10] <Skuller> Joshooa: it is not wireless
[10:10] <Joshooa> ifconfig?
[10:10] <Skuller> Joshooa: cool...got it..thanks a lot
[10:10] <Joshooa> wow
[10:11] <Joshooa> NP
[10:11] <Joshooa> I feel good now
[10:11] <Skuller> wow?
[10:11] <Skuller> just had ur fav meal or something?...hehe
[10:12] <Joshooa> I'm a noob, so I feel good knowing something
[10:12] <Joshooa> Not just totally and utterly lost and confused
[10:12] <Joshooa> like I was a week ago
[10:12] <Skuller> oh...lol...dw..i m still a bigger noob than u...so i am going to give you competetion in noobness...:P
[10:12] <Joshooa> I was expecting that my advice would be wrong and not helpful
[10:12] <Joshooa> Nice,  how long have you used Kubunu?
[10:13] <Skuller> about 2 weeks....'use' as in just left it on for downloading torrents....not literally used it that much tho
[10:14] <MukiEX> Kubuntu stopped automounting =(
[10:14] <MukiEX> For USB drives
[10:14] <cpk1> wow, two people in one night
[10:14] <Skuller> yea..must be the night
[10:14] <Joshooa> Yeah i downloaded Ubuntu about a week ago, installed it, kinda fumbled around, got slightly familiar, then updated to Kubuntu and went through it all again.
[10:15] <Joshooa> That's funny, cause I never did ANYTHING to get my USB automounting, it's my hda1 and hbb1 that didn't do it
[10:15] <Skuller> Joshooa: lol...same here...i used ubuntu for a weekend and got attracted to kubun for its flashiness
[10:16] <Skuller> does anyone know what is the miniimum space taken up by a bare install of 'feisty' on the hdd?
[10:16] <Joshooa> Skuller: I was just told it was better, and wanted to check it out, when I first saw it I was like, yeah this is nice, flashier, and faster too, so I liked it, but then I felt totally lost and confused
[10:16] <cpk1> usb is on hda1 and hbb1? O.o
[10:16] <cpk1> kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde instead
[10:16] <Joshooa> cpk1: Yeah, but when I first read about it I was confused
[10:17] <Skuller> yea...the K is good in terms of eye candy....not to mention it is awesome with beryl
[10:17] <Joshooa> cpk1: Totally new to linux, so in my mind, that's just saying it has a different theme and layout
[10:17] <Joshooa> cpk1: But a lot of programs I try to use now freeze
[10:17] <Joshooa> cpk1: Anything with G = bad, and I was told they'd all run vice versa
[10:17] <cpk1> there shouldnt really be any difference unless you are low on memory
[10:18] <Joshooa> I have 640MB
[10:18] <cpk1> if you have low memory then you *might* run into trouble loading all the libraries
[10:18] <cpk1> then you should be fine
[10:18] <Joshooa> uh o
[10:18] <hw__> How can I make sure that no program will open inside/within konq.? I've set "show files in separate viewer" in kcontrol...
[10:18] <Joshooa> I'm slowly getting kicked off Kopete, Yahoo died, and then AIM
[10:18] <Skuller> any idea how much does a bare install of kubun take?....edgy or feisty or both
[10:19] <cpk1> Skuller: pretty small if you are talking about not even getting X
[10:19] <Joshooa> I want to say 350MB, but for no reason other than I read it on a site, but it wasn't specific to a flavor
[10:19] <Skuller> cpk1: ok...make that a 'normal user bare install'....including X?
[10:20] <cpk1> Skuller: still pretty small if you get the barest for kde or even smaller if you dont kde
[10:20] <cpk1> but you will need to use the alternate installer probably
[10:21] <Skuller> ohh....so if i will be downloading a lot of packages and have a feisty install (when it comes out ofcourse) i shudnt go more than 2-3gb for the / partitionn right?
[10:21] <Skuller> i will be mounting /media and /home on another partition
[10:21] <cpk1> my / is 23gB and I am using 4.4gB of it
[10:22] <Skuller> is ur main 'files and data and documents' on it too?...like ur downloads + music and the works?
[10:22] <Skuller> are*
[10:22] <cpk1> its just /, /home is seperate
[10:23] <Skuller> ohh...so i think i should keep at least 5 gb for / if i want to go a long way without a format
[10:24] <Skuller> !kopete
[10:24] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[10:24] <Skuller> where can i get help for kopete?
[10:25] <Tm_T> Skuller: What's the problem?
[10:25] <Skuller> i want to be able to save all my conversations automatically like in LIVE messenger....
[10:26] <Tm_T> Skuller: Activate history plugin.
[10:27] <Skuller>  Tm_T: it is activated....but i dont think it saves the history as a text file somewhere....does it?
[10:28] <cpk1> Skuller: it does, its in ~/.kde/share/apps
[10:28] <Joshooa> So, should Same GNOME the game work in Kubuntu?
[10:28] <cpk1> find kopete in there
[10:28] <cpk1> Joshooa: huh?
[10:29] <Joshooa> cpk1:  When I was still in Ubuntu, I was told if I go to Kubuntu, everything will still work
[10:29] <cpk1> Joshooa: yes, it will
[10:29] <Joshooa> cpk1:  They don't
[10:29] <Joshooa> cpk1: I just get grey boxes
[10:29] <cpk1> what doesnt work?
[10:29] <Joshooa> Same GNOME
[10:30] <Joshooa> or anything G
[10:30] <Joshooa> Robots wont work either
[10:30] <Joshooa> or Nibbles, and I know that worked cause I played it
[10:32] <Joshooa> They load but they are just blank grey screens
[10:32] <Joshooa> then to close them I have to terminate them
[10:33] <cpk1> you mean gnurobots?
[10:33] <Joshooa> No it's just called Robots
[10:34] <Joshooa> GParted works though, interesting....
[10:35] <cpk1> hmm well I cant seem to find robots in the repos so i dunno what to say
[10:35] <naught101> anyone succesfully installed JahShaka video editing suite on kubuntu?
[10:37] <caris_mere> Kpilot says it is "Unable to read system information from Pilot", any ideas?
[10:37] <koriel> I have a folder of text files and I have left a character in one of them that I want to find it..how can I do this using grep ... for example if I want to find tha character L but L alone not Lucky for example
[10:37] <Joshooa> it's under games > arcade
[10:37] <Joshooa> On my K Menu
[10:37] <koriel> oops wrong channel :)
[10:38] <cpk1> koriel: try quotes? =P
[10:39] <hw__> How can I make sure that no program will open inside/within konq.? I've set "show files in separate viewer" in kcontrol...
[10:47] <Joshooa> should I be connecting via irc.freenode.net or  chat.us.freenode.net
[10:47] <Joshooa> or does it not matter?
[10:52] <abhishekparolkar> Unexpected response from server
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <Moltov> Anyone arround who has a clue where to toss something you need to run oh, around the end of kubuntu starting up?
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> 
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server.
[10:53] <abhishekparolkar> ?
[10:54] <Moltov> Well, Dhcp wont automaticaly start up in the wlan config script right... but it works fine through the command dhclient wlan0, so, those of us hanging over at ndiswrapper
[10:54] <Moltov> #ndiswrapper figured i should just tell it to run that on start ^.^
[10:55] <Moltov> <.< but heh, cant find where to tell it to do that in kubuntu...
[10:55] <cpk1> Moltov: put it in /etc/rc.local
[10:56] <SlackRat> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=478818
[10:56] <SlackRat> running ndiswrapper via init scripts at startup .....
[10:56] <Moltov> Cpk1:Thankee... ^.^ i take it the full bit would be "gksu dhclient wlan0" per the suggestion from the person over there?
[10:57] <Moltov> Or is less than that needed thanks to something nifty?
[10:57] <cpk1> Moltov: no, you just need to put dhclient wlan0 at the end of it
[10:57] <Moltov> Nifty.
[10:58] <intelikey> hmmm odd error.  modem /dev/ttyS0 reports device busy can't dialup.   but nothing is using it... what might cause that ?
[10:58] <Joshooa> is it safe to just unplug m y usbstick or should I unmount it first?
[10:58] <Chousuke> Joshooa: unmount first
[10:58] <Joshooa> Chousuke: What happens if I don't?
[10:59] <intelikey> Joshooa what fs is on it ?
[10:59] <Chousuke> well, you might get file corruption.
[10:59] <Chousuke> otoh you probably won't.
[10:59] <Chousuke> but it's possible
[10:59] <Chousuke> so unmount first
[10:59] <intelikey> if it's ext# you most likely will get fs errors.
[10:59] <Joshooa> We;ll like in Windows I'd just make sure it's light wasn't flashing, and unplug it
[11:00] <Joshooa> it's fat32
[11:00] <intelikey> if it's vfat then it probably wont hurt it.
[11:00] <Chousuke> Joshooa: that's not the proper way on windows either :/
[11:00] <Chousuke> intelikey: it definitely will if it's being used.
[11:00] <Joshooa> yeah but you don't mount it in windows either
[11:00] <Moltov> Chousuke: Hardly ever causes an issue tho.
[11:00] <intelikey> but linux will cry if you remove it while it's mounted.
[11:00] <Joshooa> as long as it's not being read or written to, no problem
[11:00] <Chousuke> Joshooa: it's "mounted" automatically
[11:01] <Joshooa> I was worried that it would be remounted over and over though if I don't specify that I am removing it
[11:01] <Moltov> *sighs* Why cant they just remember to support hotswap in these flash drives these days...
[11:01] <intelikey> Chousuke you mean if there is disk activity.   yes if there is a write in progress  no matter what fs it is it's borked.
[11:01] <Joshooa> cause then I wouldn't have stuff to talk about
[11:01] <Chousuke> there might be some cache stuff too that might cause trouble
[11:01] <Moltov> I mean, my WIRELESS card, has hotswap, i have no damn idea why, but it does.
[11:02] <Chousuke> writes to disk don't happen instantly.
[11:02] <intelikey> do if it's mounted with  option   sync
[11:02] <Moltov> Chousuke: Yes, but why would you stupidly remove it while your writing file bar was still on the screan.
[11:02] <Chousuke> intelikey: which is usually not the case.
[11:03] <Chousuke> Moltov: the write may not be complete even after it says it's complete.
[11:03] <intelikey> is if i mount removable + writable media...
[11:03] <cpk1> if you use console you might not realize you have gotten a carriage return from a cp or mv before you take it out =P
[11:03] <Moltov> Chousuke: For more than a fraction of a second maybe... otherwise thatd be incredibly stupid.
[11:04] <Chousuke> still, you should unmount properly.
[11:04] <Moltov> Or remember to pay attention to get a hotswap usb flash ^.^
[11:04] <intelikey> cpk1 in console the prompt will return before the disk write in some cases  and that's true for gui also.
[11:04] <intelikey> note.   'some cases'
[11:05] <Joshooa> That's why if the blue light is flashing on my usb key, I don't touch it
[11:05] <cpk1> intelikey: thats what I saying though, you might notice that you got a carriage return =P also & would probably free it
[11:05] <intelikey> so why would ttyS0 be reporting busy ?
[11:05] <Chousuke> I think there was a kernel patch that did something to allow unplugging without unmounting
[11:05] <Joshooa> No blue flashing, no activity, should be safe
[11:05] <cpk1> might not*
[11:06] <Chousuke> I think it may have monitored the media and determined whether it was unplugged safely.
[11:06] <intelikey> umount is safe.
[11:06] <Chousuke> umount is, but directly unplugging isn't.
[11:06] <intelikey> eject it  :)
[11:06] <Chousuke> which is the same as unmounting :P
[11:07] <intelikey> for Q in /etc/hd? /etc/sd? ;do eject $Q && echo "that was $Q" ;done
[11:08] <Moltov> cpk1: writing it to the file you specified, didnt help.
[11:08] <Joshooa> man this sucks, I have to sort through 100GB of stuff, see what I want to save, and then burn it to DVDs so I can format my hard drives and reinstall stuff
[11:08] <Moltov> cpk1: it didnt run it... at the right moment atleast
[11:08] <intelikey> howto find the cdrom device ^  :)  and make the usb-stick safe all at the same time....
[11:09] <cpk1> Moltov: hrmm you shouldnt even need to run dhclient for something since if it is set to auto in the interfaces file it shold already do that
[11:09] <intelikey> second half of that statement is a joke you know.
 so why would ttyS0 be reporting busy ?  <<< if nothing is using it ?
[11:10] <Moltov> Cpk1: Yeah, we noted that.. Its a bit odd.
[11:11] <intelikey> i was thinking missing module,   but chroot into another installation and in there it's not busy/works  so that's not it.
[11:11] <Moltov> Cpk1: But atleast the first time we ran through it over there, that made the internet connect...
[11:14] <Moltov> That was strange, ndiswrapper didnt start up automaticaly this time... i had to modprobe it on...
[11:15] <Moltov> But... ive used sudo ndiswrapper -m... which... when run again confirmed it... ... ...
[11:16] <cpk1> haha well that is probably why it didnt work =P
[11:16] <Moltov> *hits head aginst wall* Why must 802.11g cards hate me.
[11:17] <cpk1> Moltov: does 'cat /etc/modules/' have ndiswrapper in it?
[11:17] <Moltov> Why... didnt it... GAAAAH
[11:18] <cpk1> pretty sure that it should have ndiswrapper in there at least
[11:19] <intelikey> what am i doing, not holding my mouth right or what ?
[11:19] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  fuser /dev/ttyS0
[11:19] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  wvdial
[11:19] <intelikey> --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.55
[11:19] <intelikey> --> Cannot open ./dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy
[11:19] <cpk1> intelikey: I would try to help but I think it is a bit over my head =\
[11:20] <intelikey> i just don't understand why that device is busy unless i chroot then it's free  and nothing is using it...
[11:20] <Joshooa> Moltov: How're things working out for ya?
[11:21] <Moltov> Cpk1: its... quite empty, i mean, a few notes... and like, 2 letters
[11:22] <cpk1> Moltov: ok well I *think* ndiswrapper needs to be in there if you want it to start
[11:22] <cpk1> on boot
[11:22] <Moltov> assuming you mean /etc/moduels of course, since theres no such folder :P
[11:23] <Moltov> CPk1;Hmmm, well, i can put it in there...
[11:23] <cpk1> well my advice comes with absolutely no warranty, implied or explicit =)
[11:24] <Joshooa> is there a way to open html help files in Kubuntu?
[11:25] <Moltov> Depends what you mean by open
[11:25] <Moltov> open and edit? Kate if your used to the style... Open and view? Konquerer, duh...
[11:26] <intelikey> quanta +
[11:27] <Joshooa> View
[11:27] <Joshooa> Konquerer and OpenOffice wont work
[11:27] <Joshooa> and now OpenOffice wont close
[11:27] <SlackRat> a browser, konqueror is usually default
[11:28] <cpk1> konquerer can most certainly handle html
[11:28] <Joshooa> I think they may be .nfo files in windows
[11:28] <Joshooa> it most certainly did not handle this
[11:28] <Joshooa> but they are ebooks
[11:28] <cpk1> is it a .chm?
[11:28] <Joshooa> yrds
[11:28] <Joshooa> yes*
[11:29] <SlackRat> install xchm
[11:29] <cpk1> or kchmviewer
[11:29] <Joshooa> ok
[11:29] <Joshooa> I want these books too, since most of my linux books appear to be in this format
[11:29] <SlackRat> thats the format the official ubuntu book is zipped up in btw
[11:29] <Moltov> Cpk1: Ummm That DEFINATELY didnt work right. Now its not showing up under iwconfig even if i give the command to force it to run...
[11:30] <Moltov> Cpk1: Although ndiswrapper still notes it installed and connected correctly.
[11:31] <cpk1> well
[11:31] <cpk1> I made sure to educate myself this time around
[11:31] <cpk1> it does need to be in /etc/modules
[11:32] <cpk1> you used depmod before inserting it the first time right?
[11:33] <Moltov> used what?... Excuse me, linux Noob here...
[11:33] <cpk1> before you inserted it did you do depmod -a?
[11:33] <Moltov> no...
[11:33] <Moltov> I didnt know to do anything of the sort...
[11:34] <cpk1> Moltov: right, so do sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper and then sudo depmod -a
[11:39] <Moltov> Cpk1: now what?
[11:42] <Moltov> You still there?
[11:43] <Moltov> Well, that cant be good...
[11:44] <Joshooa> So, I want to install LinEAK, should I get the tar.gz or deb files, or are the tar.gz files deb zipped up, or whats with that?
[11:45] <Moltov> Meh. Depends...
[11:45] <Moltov> Tar.gz are generaly source files in a compressed form.
[11:45] <Moltov> generaly...
[11:45] <Joshooa> ok
[11:45] <Moltov> That said
[11:45] <Moltov> you can quite often find much more up to date versions therin
[11:47] <Moltov> And hence compile them with makefile or such... and have better installs...
[11:47] <Moltov> lol
[11:48] <Moltov> Joshooa; funny, we keep helping each other...
[11:48] <Joshooa> yeah
[11:48] <Joshooa> It's good, we're both learning, we can learn twice as fast this way, cause we have twice as many problems
[11:48] <Moltov> Joshooa: I'd say, you got an im you like... but... I currently lack the ability to... log onto any of mine...
[11:49] <Joshooa> an im?
[11:49] <Joshooa> instant messenger?
[11:49] <Moltov> *nods*
[11:49] <Joshooa> what makes you say that?
[11:50] <Moltov> Cus, ^.^ knowing someone elce whos learning nix is A, helpfull B, something i dont have on my list
[11:51] <zorglu_> !java
[11:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:51] <Moltov> C and D Why the heck not, and its not like i use mine for only people i know in person... id only ave like 4 on my list if i was one of those silly people
[11:51] <Joshooa> Yeah, I agree, and I have you on my buddy list already too, but hopefully tomorrow I will be reformatting my computer to completely remove windows
[11:51] <zorglu_> !java6
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <Moltov> E, i dont come on irc normaly...
[11:51] <Joshooa> Just fully got that sentence
[11:51] <Moltov> My laptop has a preticular hatred for it.
[11:52] <Joshooa> I'll be on IRC all the time now, since I'm using Kopete
[11:52] <Joshooa> !kopete
[11:52] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[11:52] <Moltov> Gaim gives good aim/yim/msnim(and icq if your a uo player... not that anyone elce uses it)
[11:52] <Joshooa> I completely forgot about him
[11:52] <zorglu_> q. what is the ubotu tag for java6 ?
[11:52] <Moltov> I like it better than kopete
[11:53] <Joshooa> I used Gaim until I got up on Kubuntu
[11:53] <Joshooa> !java
[11:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:53] <Moltov> It has an installer through adept, that works fine.
[11:53] <Joshooa> ?
[11:53] <Moltov> Adept, the package manager.
[11:53] <Moltov> If its properly syncing to the net-repositories, it should have quite a bit decent stuf.
[11:54] <Joshooa> I don't think mine does that
[11:54] <SlackRat> bleh, install synaptic
[11:54] <Moltov> It doesnt work right if you install just wrong... I did that last time.
[11:56] <Joshooa> yes I like Syntapic more
[11:57] <SlackRat> been around  a lot longer, and imo, its more intuitive and offers more options
[11:57] <Moltov> GYAAAAAAH
[11:57] <Skuller> hey guys..my klipper is running but its icon is not in the system tray...i just rebooted my system n now it is not there....in terminal when i type 'klipper' it says its running...
[11:57] <SlackRat> what did you break now?
[11:57] <Moltov> Whatever Cpk1 had me do, made everything work LESS.
[11:58] <Moltov> Before it worked with a little poking at it... Now it just doesnt work.
[11:58] <Joshooa> heh heh heh
[11:59] <SlackRat> try configure system try
[11:59] <Joshooa> Don't worry, I'm sure when I reboot I wont have network access either
[11:59] <SlackRat> tray
[11:59] <Skuller> yay...i killed the process and started klipper again using the terminal...it is now there
[12:00] <Skuller> laterz guys
[12:00] <Moltov> *hits his head aginst the wall* and unlike what was tried before
[12:00] <Moltov> i have NO idea how to undo what he had me do
[12:01] <Moltov> *grumbles* this is why i like typing in my config file changes manualy...
[12:01] <Skuller> regarding moltov's problem...is there a 'System restore' or 'goback' equivalent in kubuntu?
[12:01] <Moltov> If i had edited the files with kate, it auto backs up anything systemfilish it edits.
[12:01] <Moltov> But as far as i know, otherwise, no.
[12:02] <Moltov> Not that doesnt require i used it first atleast.
[12:03] <Moltov> Well, atleast i know the card works... even if it doesnt now... and didnt want to auto-start...
[12:05] <Moltov> And ive saved what he told me to do... so if i can find someone... copitent, maybe they can tell me how to undo it.
[12:06] <Joshooa> Me am copitent
[12:06] <Joshooa> :D
[12:07] <Moltov> er
[12:07] <Joshooa> At least I hope I am competent
[12:07] <Moltov> lol
[12:07] <Joshooa> to read what he made you to and undo it, maybe
[12:07] <Moltov> *chuckles*
[12:07] <Joshooa> to pull commands out of my ass that my help, not so likely
[12:07] <Moltov> he had me do "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper" and then "sudo depmod -a"
[12:08] <Joshooa> so you removed ndiswrapper from your modules
[12:09] <Moltov> ..
[12:09] <Moltov> That realy wouldnt explain what its doing tho.
[12:09] <Joshooa> and then checked for newer stuff
[12:09] <Joshooa> and wasn't it -A?
[12:09] <Joshooa> not -a
[12:09] <Moltov> uh...
[12:09] <Moltov> Good question.
[12:09] <Moltov> Dont know what i ended up actualy typing.
[12:10] <Moltov> he originaly said lowercase
[12:10] <Moltov> ^.^ scrolled up a bit
[12:10] <Joshooa> hmm
[12:11] <Joshooa> well that's not even a command then
[12:11] <Joshooa> do modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:11] <Moltov> tried.
[12:11] <Moltov> doesnt work.
[12:11] <Joshooa> and?
[12:11] <Joshooa> does it show under iwconfig?
[12:11] <Moltov> Nope. unlike before.
[12:11] <Moltov> Ill double double check... but pretty damn sure.
[12:12] <Joshooa> what about ndiswrapper -l?
[12:12] <Joshooa> does it show it installed?
[12:12] <Moltov> Installed and connected, as always.
[12:12] <Joshooa> dhclient?
[12:13] <Moltov> Fails to find device.
[12:13] <Moltov> i can get the exact error
[12:13] <Moltov> but thats the gist of it
[12:13] <Moltov> currently speaking, there is no wlan0
[12:13] <Moltov> and modprobe ndiswrapper nolonger brings my wireless card up as it.
[12:14] <SlackRat> what does ifconfig show?
[12:14] <Moltov> if?
[12:15] <SlackRat> yeah
[12:15] <Moltov> *checks having no clue what config thats checking*
[12:15] <Moltov> Nothing, absolutely doenst do anything.
[12:15] <SlackRat> will show youre devices for internet, wireless and non
[12:16] <Moltov> Well, i know my dlink wired lan card works fine... I usualy bridge from my laptop to my slave(now backup computer were messing with)
[12:16] <Moltov> its just useless being its a room and a half away from the router
[12:17] <Joshooa> how does ifconfig not do anything?
[12:17] <Joshooa> !ifconfig
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Joshooa> psh
[12:19] <Moltov> ... Im increasingly odded out here...
[12:20] <Moltov> And wish i hadnt listened to cpk1... nothing he told me to do worked... >.>
[12:22] <ekul`> I'm kind of confused, is kubuntu completely seperate to ubuntu, or as I have ubutnu can i install kubuntu ontop and have the option of using KDE or Gnome?
[12:22] <Joshooa> I have a dilema
[12:22] <SlackRat> ekul, you can add kde to ubuntu
[12:22] <SlackRat> and xfce as well
[12:22] <Moltov> Ekul': That is a bit of an odd sortout...
[12:22] <Joshooa> That's how I got kubuntu
[12:22] <Joshooa> had ubuntu, used the terminal to get the kde extension, and here i am
[12:22] <SlackRat> me too, its more stable i think, if i build kubuntu on top of an ubuntu base
[12:23] <Moltov> *chuckles* I actualy installed off the kubuntu install dvd...
[12:23] <ekul`> Ahh cool, whats the extentiont o download kde, if you got it there
[12:23] <ekul`> to*
[12:23] <Joshooa> not sure
[12:23] <Joshooa> I read it somewhee
[12:23] <Joshooa> where
[12:23] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop?
[12:23] <Moltov> should be
[12:23] <ekul`> Thanks :)
[12:23] <SlackRat> should get you up and running and you can build on that
[12:24] <ekul`> any complex setting up? (still very new to linux, so will it just give me an option at login?)
[12:24] <Moltov> So any idea on my pesky situation slack?
[12:24] <SlackRat> no, you should be able to choose kde at boot time
[12:24] <SlackRat> from the login splash, under sessions i think
[12:24] <Joshooa> Well you log in then go to options where you type in your name, and then select kde
[12:24] <ekul`> excellent, thanks :)
[12:24] <SlackRat> Moltov, not at the moment
[12:25] <Moltov> Its kinda strange too...
[12:25] <SlackRat> ekul, you can make kde the default autologin desktop as well if you wnat
[12:25] <Moltov> The light on my wireless card is blinking as if its initiated, yet... its useless as far as i can summerise.
[12:25] <SlackRat> Moltov, i find my kubuntu box sometimes just doesnt connect and a reboot finds my wifi
[12:25] <SlackRat> happened yesterday
[12:26] <ekul`> awesome :D thanks
[12:26] <SlackRat> no problem ekul
[12:26] <SlackRat> heh
[12:26] <Moltov> ... find the card or your network?
[12:26] <ekul`> now i got my sound working, and .avi files, im never going back
[12:26] <Joshooa> I am getting ready to remove windows entirely
[12:26] <SlackRat> seems to lose the network
[12:26] <Joshooa> Oh, although
[12:26] <Joshooa> I have like, 30 Gigs of software/games downloaded, for windows, s hould I just format those too?
[12:26] <Moltov> Yeah see thats the thing, i since what i did with cpk1, have no wlan0 device.
[12:26] <Joshooa> Or burn 8 DVDs?
[12:26] <Moltov> Depends
[12:27] <SlackRat> joshooa, if you are a gamer, why dump windows?
[12:27] <ekul`> im thinking of doing that, gonna back up some of the videos though
[12:27] <Moltov> whats your computers stats?
[12:27] <ekul`> cant be bothered downloading those big torrents again
[12:27] <Joshooa> I'm not really
[12:27] <ekul`> im keeping windows just for gaming, but i want to set it up on my other box
[12:27] <SlackRat> what does Kwifi show you?
[12:27] <Joshooa> But I have some games, I hardly install them, but I'm always like, why delete them?
[12:27] <Joshooa> Also, everyone i know has windows, so they might like them
[12:27] <SlackRat> KWifiManager
[12:27] <Moltov> ?
[12:27] <Moltov> umm
[12:28] <Moltov> i think i dont have it come to think of it
[12:28] <Moltov> I have wlan assistant, but... even I know its...
[12:28] <SlackRat> try and fire it from cli, then if not , apt get it
[12:28] <Moltov> *coughs* that computers not online atm, and i kinda lost the dvd
[12:28] <SlackRat> it allows you to see if your devices are detected and activated in a gui
[12:28] <SlackRat> heh
[12:29] <SlackRat> kinda lost?
[12:29] <Moltov> But i can find a package ^.^
[12:29] <Moltov> well
[12:29] <Moltov> i know its in my room... somewhere
[12:29] <SlackRat> like 'kinda pregnant'?
[12:29] <Moltov> Nah...
[12:29] <Moltov> you CAN kinda lose something.
[12:30] <Moltov> In my case i know what 360 cubic feet of space its in.
[12:30] <SlackRat> true, and at that moment, it is for all intensive purposes, lost....
[12:30] <SlackRat> :-P
[12:30] <Moltov> Just, not where in that 360 cubic feet.
[12:31] <Moltov> Though, realy, thats more like... 288 cubic feet, since i can count out my bed...
[12:31] <SlackRat> heh, thats what you think
[12:31] <Moltov> But anyway, ill go download it and burn it lol
[12:31] <Moltov> !kwifimanager
[12:31] <Moltov> aww
[12:31] <Moltov> was curious
[12:31] <ubotu> kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 780 kB
[12:32] <Moltov> ah there we are... humm damn no link
[12:34] <uros> hi all. 2 questions: 1/ how do i set a command to be run everytime i log on (it is a sudo command)? 2/ why can i run kppp from one user but not from the other on this computer (could not find executable?)
[12:35] <SlackRat> second user doesnt have sudo rights is my guess
[12:36] <SlackRat> so the exe isnt found for that user
[12:38] <uros> slackrat: tnx. worked.
[12:39] <uros> question left: how do i do "sudo rfcomm bind /dev/rfcomm0" automatically on login of any user?
[12:39] <SlackRat> probably by editing your init scripts
[12:39] <uros> slackrat: where are those?
[12:40] <SlackRat> the scripts controlling your startup runlevels and processes
[12:40] <SlackRat> /etc
[12:40] <SlackRat> check out the docs, its been awhile since i tampered with debian style init scrips
[12:41] <uros> will do
[12:41] <SlackRat> so you'd prolly get a (wrong) slackware answer, heh
[12:41] <SlackRat> check the forums and google debian init scripts startup processes ,,,,or the like
[12:44] <Moltov> *sighs hitting his head aginst the wall*
[12:44] <Moltov> just... a month and a half more...
[12:44] <Moltov> Thats all i ask... of this poor thing...
[12:47] <Moltov> HAH i tricked it into talking to the damn wlan card again... >.> but it adds a whole nother step to booting up and getting it working...
[12:49] <Joshooa> as long as it works
[12:51] <Moltov> Geh... Ill find some pro tomorrow evening, that can help me get it actualy fixed... but it works for now... and is nearing 4am, so im starting to get tired ^.^
[12:51] <Moltov> I suspect that stuf he had me do, messed with how it was booting, and caused something there... No clue how.
[12:52] <Moltov> Probobly related to its malf in the first place... but lol.
[12:52] <Moltov> Well ciao... half hope half dont hope to see you around.
[12:55] <Joshooa> Hey where are you from?
[12:55] <Joshooa> aw
[12:59] <Joshooa> Should I make a 100MB boot partition at the beginning of my drive?
[01:00] <Joshooa> anyone?
[01:02] <intelikey> well i guess i got this thing back like it was before it got like it is.
[01:03] <Joshooa> but then that means it is how it was
[01:03] <Joshooa> that's like an infinite loop sentnse
[01:03] <intelikey> yeah that's what i said.
[01:03] <greenguy> Is there any polish kubuntu user?
[01:03] <Joshooa> sentence*
[01:03] <intelikey> greenguy yes.  there might be a channel
[01:04] <intelikey> what's the two letter country code to poland ?
[01:05] <intelikey> !pl
[01:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:05] <greenguy> intelikey do you know the channel name?
[01:05] <intelikey> see ubotu  ^
[01:06] <Joshooa> should I make a 100mb boot partition or is that not needed?
[01:06] <greenguy> yes, pl
[01:07] <greenguy> ubotu dzieki ;)
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dzieki ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <intelikey> Joshooa depends on many other things.   1. can grub read the root fs   2  will you be mounting the boot partition manually    3 do you like having a boot partition....   and other things
[01:07] <greenguy> I saw ... thank you intelikey
[01:07] <waylandbill> Joshooa: you can, but that's really just for when bios' had trouble with large drives.
[01:07] <Joshooa> ok
[01:07] <intelikey> !welcome | greenguy
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <intelikey> !thanks | greenguy
[01:08] <ubotu> greenguy: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:08] <Joshooa> Well, I have a 40GB and a 200GB and I am deciding how to partition everything before I reinstall, Kubuntu first, windows second just for backup, and maybe for games
[01:09] <intelikey> Joshooa install windows first that way windows doesn't mess up the linux install
[01:09] <intelikey> can be done either way,   just goes smoother one way.
[01:09] <Joshooa> Will it do that? Damn, I was thinking linux first so it's closer to the center
[01:10] <intelikey> closer to the center ?  how big a windows ho you gona make ?
[01:11] <Joshooa> Not sure
[01:11] <Joshooa> I want it minimal, like for emergencies, but then again I may want it to play games sometimes l ike on the network or something
[01:11] <waylandbill> Joshooa: it's uncommon to find a system with a 1024 cylinder bios limitation anymore, so needing a small /boot partition isn't really necessary.
[01:12] <Joshooa> waylandbill: Thanks, I didn't think it was necessary, but I read something and it said I should, but was a very short article and didn't say why and I couldn't tell how old it was
[01:12] <intelikey> waylandbill as long as the bios can read the root fs.
[01:12] <intelikey> you get large enough you still get out of reach for grub.
[01:14] <SlackRat> windows installer, aka the MS virus, tends to wipe out linux partitons
[01:14] <waylandbill> intelikey: if I'm getting that large, I'm getting a mobo that can read that large too. :-)
[01:14] <intelikey> keep in mind that the same old problems are not gone away just pushed farther down the road.
[01:14] <waylandbill> indeed
[01:15] <intelikey> there is always a limit.
[01:16] <intelikey> even 40billion gig would still be a limit and someone would want to exceed it.
[01:16] <Joshooa> So if my first drive is 40 GB, and second is 200, how should I set up my partitions for Windows and Linux?
[01:17] <intelikey> Joshooa are you going to use one disk for a backup + storage ?
[01:17] <Joshooa> Yea
[01:17] <Joshooa> Well
[01:17] <Joshooa> partition the 200GB, some storage some linux prob
[01:17] <waylandbill> windows wants to be on the boot drive, otherwise you'll be needing to modify the boot.ini after install
[01:18] <Joshooa> well forget that
[01:18] <intelikey> yeah or trick it into thinking it's on the boot drive.
[01:18] <waylandbill> I guess I should phrase that as windows assumes it's going to be on the boot drive.
[01:19] <intelikey> "all drives are boot drives, in this 8 disk box"
[01:19] <Joshooa> Windows assumes it's the only thing in the world too
[01:19] <intelikey> yep that's why you need to install it first.
[01:19] <PhinnFort> this is weird when updating with Adept Updater, in Feisty: i get something that seems like the default layout from KDevelop, named "Debconf on tripleseven" (where tripleseven is my hostname), and it whines about nice values....
[01:19] <intelikey> windows will rewrite your boot sector
[01:20] <intelikey> PhinnFort did you renice it ?
[01:20] <PhinnFort> intelikey: nope
[01:20] <intelikey> hmmm
[01:21] <PhinnFort> it says "Incorrect nice value, input an integer between -19 and 20" or something, with a button that says "Next", and clicking that one results in...nothing
[01:21] <ddwagnz> holy cow thats alot of users
[01:21] <PhinnFort> i can click cancel, and adept fails
[01:21] <intelikey> PhinnFort might mention it in  #ubuntu+1   the feisty channel  and see what they say
[01:21] <PhinnFort> mkay
[01:21] <intelikey> ddwagnz where ?
[01:21] <ddwagnz> wat
[01:22] <intelikey> ddwagnz lot of users ??? where ?
[01:22] <ddwagnz> here
[01:22] <PhinnFort> there?
[01:22] <intelikey> nah
[01:22] <ddwagnz> more than i am used to
[01:22] <intelikey> look in #ubuntu   3x this many
[01:22] <PhinnFort> go to #ubuntu to see users
[01:22] <ddwagnz> haha
[01:22] <PhinnFort> dang
[01:22] <ddwagnz> MukiEX!!!
[01:23] <intelikey> gentoo is heavy traffic   so is debian
[01:23] <intelikey> add # to those ^
[01:23] <PhinnFort> well, I used to hang in #gentoo-amd64
[01:23] <ddwagnz> mhmm anyway
[01:23] <PhinnFort> less traffic, mroe nice people;)
[01:23] <ddwagnz> i came here for some questions
[01:23] <ddwagnz> unless i can find them on the forums hehe
[01:24] <ddwagnz> so i'll get back to you guys
[01:24] <intelikey> ddwagnz i already asked you one.
[01:24] <intelikey> :)
[01:24] <ddwagnz> =/
[01:24] <ddwagnz> meh
[01:24] <intelikey> how many do you want ?
[01:24] <intelikey> there's two
[01:24] <intelikey> no really ask away.
[01:25] <intelikey> could ask so i can call the bot for you
[01:25] <intelikey> !bot
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[01:26] <PhinnFort> !forum question
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[01:27] <intelikey> PhinnFort and ubotu claims to know everything...   heh
[01:27] <Joshooa> !faq
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[01:27] <intelikey> !fat
[01:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:27] <Joshooa> well I tried
[01:28] <ddwagnz> i might of found something that i need answering on forums =/
[01:28] <intelikey> !redhat
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[01:29] <ddwagnz> ok it hasnt asnwered it
[01:30] <Joshooa> So, if I made my 40GB Windows, and then put Kubuntu on my 200GB, would Grub still work as my boot loader?
[01:30] <intelikey> yep
[01:30] <Joshooa> ok good I thought os
[01:30] <Joshooa> so*
[01:30] <intelikey> Joshooa but why give the whole disk to win ?
[01:31] <Joshooa> So I can install a bunch of games and stuff too
[01:31] <intelikey> you can put win on half of that and linux on the other and have the big disk free for later
[01:31] <intelikey> just a thought.
[01:31] <Joshooa> Then cut up the 200GB into swap, and 2 linux drives and just ignore the 40GB under Kubuntu
[01:32] <intelikey> you hardware.  your os.
[01:32] <tuco> Hello guys. Question of the hour, I have an acer 5670 laptop with an integrated card reader, but when I insert an sd card for example I can't see it in my storage media folder. Any hint?
[01:32] <intelikey> you/your
[01:32] <intelikey> insert correct modules ?
[01:33] <Joshooa> Well, at this point, I have 38BG in programs, and that's images not installed, 5GB of music maybe and also documents and pics I want to save
[01:33] <Joshooa> You want my hardware and os?
[01:34] <intelikey> Joshooa heh no.  was just commenting that it's all up to you.
[01:34] <intelikey> your hardware, your os, your choice.
[01:34] <Joshooa> o ok
[01:35] <Joshooa> But I want as much input as I can, so I can get in partitioned and installed the best way, so later when I learn something I'm less likey to wish I did it differently, which you may already know to help me
[01:35] <intelikey> could give them half each of the big disk and have the small one free.
[01:35] <tuco> I would rerquire some help please.
[01:35] <ddwagnz> ok i may of found what i am looking for but it seems an long process to go through so heres my question
[01:35] <ddwagnz> logging into Root user on the live cd!
[01:35] <ddwagnz> how
[01:36] <ddwagnz> hehe
[01:36] <ddwagnz> its do able on ubuntu but not kubuntu!
[01:36] <intelikey> ddwagnz  sudo -i
[01:36] <ddwagnz> and that does?
[01:36] <ddwagnz> hehe
[01:37] <intelikey> ddwagnz answers your question.   how to become root on the live cd.
[01:37] <DeLeTeR> join #ubuntu-ru
[01:37] <intelikey> !root | ddwagnz
[01:37] <ubotu> ddwagnz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:38] <ddwagnz> ok
[01:39] <intelikey> ddwagnz  man intro       man man     then when someone mentions a command you can just   man "said command"    and see what they are talking about
[01:39] <ddwagnz> hmm
[01:39] <intelikey> and yes you type that in a  konsole
[01:40] <intelikey> or in konqueror's address bar   man:/intro
[01:40] <ddwagnz> ok
[01:41] <ddwagnz> right. i shall be back later if i need more help!
[01:41] <intelikey> we'll be expecting you.
[01:46] <Mydoom666> Bonjour
[01:47] <intelikey> i have all these programs to choose from... but i don't really want to install anything...    there's kinda a minimalist thing going on....
[01:47] <intelikey> your doom six houndred three score and six...
[01:47] <intelikey> hmmm
[02:05] <intelikey> there sure is a lot of quiet in here .....
[02:06] <intelikey> i have some mis-matched hardware,  i have a 9 pin usb port and a 16 pin plug on the motherboard... any way to make them play togather ?
[02:13] <turf_> hello =)
[02:16] <intelikey> rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*
[02:19] <oem> good morning all
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[02:19] <madmalde> Hi@all
[02:20] <oem> ok so katapult will not open i get an hour glass and then the hourglass dissapears so does add remove (Lost and Found)
[02:20] <oem> any suggestions?
[02:20] <renato> hi, I have a ubuntu linux box that I am using as a server. it has just one ip address, but I would like to associate to it several services served via http, so, for example, if it's name is server.mydomain.com, I would like to have  webmail.mydomain.com being provided by the same server providing the page /PATH/webmail, how do I do that? is it even possible?
[02:21] <SlackRat> hit alt-space and katapult should show up
[02:21] <fulat2k_> any idea where i can get more gtk styles for kde in addition to qt and raleigh which is included in kde?
[02:21] <oem> no dice
[02:22] <SlackRat> what does it say when you try from konsole?
[02:22] <waylandbill> renato: yes. you have to manage the subdomains to resolve to the correct location and it differs based on the tools available from your registrar
[02:22] <oem> who are you talking to?
[02:23] <SlackRat> you
[02:23] <SlackRat> who is who talking to?
[02:23] <oem> sec i will try it in Konsol
[02:23] <SlackRat> heh
[02:24] <happytiger> How to make knetworkmanager in feisty remeber passwords for wpa encrypted nets. I have to renter everytime I reboot
[02:24] <renato> waylandbill, ok, I guess I have to set up  (at my registar) a subdomain crm.mydomain.com that points to the same ip address, then (I am trying to use webmin) to set up a virtual server that associate  crm.mydomain.com to a path file, is that correct?
[02:26] <fulat2k_> happytiger: it uses kdewallet to store the passwords.  does kdewallet gets initialised?
[02:26] <waylandbill> renato: yeah. that sounds about right.
[02:26] <asaup> hi all
[02:26] <asaup> my disk space
[02:26] <asaup> is going at 0 mb
[02:26] <asaup> how is it possible ??
[02:27] <bxnp> lol, well if you use it in the end it will be full i guess
[02:27] <asaup> no man
[02:27] <renato> asaup I am just not sure how (in webmin) to connect crm.mydomain.com to the directory, it seems to want an A record, not a CNAME
[02:27] <asaup> i mean
[02:27] <oem> what is the link for pastebin?
[02:27] <renato> (mind you all, I am still llearning)
[02:27] <asaup> i have a super karamba widget
[02:27] <asaup> where i can show with my eyes
[02:28] <asaup> that it goes like this
[02:28] <asaup> 638mb , 630 , 627
[02:28] <asaup> and i am not downloading anythink
[02:28] <asaup> ??
[02:28] <asaup> how can this be possible
[02:29] <bxnp> log files created by daemons
[02:29] <bxnp> your own content
[02:29] <bxnp> i dont know, maybe you are hacked
[02:29] <oem> oem@ubuntu:~$ katapult
[02:29] <oem> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[02:29] <oem>   Major opcode:  143
[02:29] <oem>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:29] <oem>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:30] <b0rt> hey there, how can i install a package with all it dependencies, apt-get -f install .... didnt work
[02:30] <oem> Failed to open device
[02:30] <waylandbill> renato: I don't use webmin, so I can't help you there.
[02:30] <oem> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[02:30] <oem>   Major opcode:  143
[02:30] <oem>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:30] <oem>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:30] <oem> Failed to open device
[02:30] <oem> oem@ubuntu:~$
[02:30] <renato> ok
[02:30] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get install <pkgname>
[02:30] <b0rt> SlackRat: i get problem with broken dependencies
[02:30] <waylandbill> oem: remove the devices from xorg.conf that don't exist in your system (such as wacom device)
[02:31] <oem> i would but am unclear how i have only had this for about 3 days or so
[02:32] <waylandbill> oem: backup the file and remove the devices that don't exist. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you the ones that don't exist.
[02:32] <SlackRat> bart, might be a problem with pkgs at the moment , apt gets the deps if it can
[02:33] <oem> Unknown host xorg.conf
[02:33] <SlackRat> oem, try reinstalling katapult? remove and install again?
[02:33] <b0rt> ic... =/ thanks SlackRat
[02:34] <waylandbill> oem: it's a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <SlackRat> oem ,  i get errors as well when i fire apps from command line, but most work after the xorg errors
[02:34] <oem> ok
[02:34] <SlackRat> dapper or edgy?
[02:35] <waylandbill> SlackRat: most times that's okay, but say when smb4k sets up the sudoers file, you could get locked out of sudo because it puts those errors into the sudoers file.
[02:35] <oem> ok how do i fix this so Xorg doesnt fail
[02:35] <waylandbill> it's just a simple case of devices that don't exist and an easy fix is to comment them out.
[02:36] <oem> i am using edgy
[02:36] <SlackRat> hmn, im on dapper, check the forums to see if this is a problem already reported
[02:36] <oem> i did and hasnt been reported as of yet
[02:38] <oem> my version # for edgy is X Window System Version 7.1.1
[02:40] <waylandbill> I've seen it on the forums before. It may have had different device numbers, but I'm almost positive I've seen similar
[02:41] <loris> ciao
[02:41] <iltomee> hi, can someone help: X wont start, I have to install the nvidia kernel modul each time i reboot, I just installed some updates, im still using breazy, can someone help
[02:41] <oem> ok well i just got done with work and probably shouldnt be editting this untill i have had some sleep. I like the way i have it set up and well i have already broken the platform once lol dont want to reinstall just yet LMAO
[02:42] <b0rt> SlackRat: do u know about libqt3-mt 3:3.3.7 ?
[02:42] <b0rt> why i cant upgrade from 3:3.3.6
[02:42] <SlackRat> get some sleep, but you could reinstall katapult prolly without headaches and see what happens
[02:42] <oem> ok
[02:42] <SlackRat> what version are you using bort?
[02:43] <oem> ty guys i appreciate you helping a convert out
[02:43] <b0rt> im using 3:3.3.6 and i need .7 as dependency
[02:43] <SlackRat> what kubuntu version?
[02:43] <b0rt> 6.10
[02:44] <eilker> aftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?
[02:44] <SlackRat> bort, maybe youre trying to upgrade to an incompatible version
[02:44] <b0rt> ic
[02:44] <b0rt> how can i check it?
[02:45] <b0rt> if 6.10 is compatible with libqt3-mt 3:3.3.7 ?
[02:46] <SlackRat> google?
[02:47] <b0rt> k... ill have a look, thanks SlackRat
[02:47] <b0rt> =)
[02:47] <SlackRat> cheers
[02:51] <frit> hello
[02:51] <mix_> hello! Does anyone know,why KDE isn't start in my kubuntu?
[02:51] <frit> how do i add some source ? for the aptitude , because i can't get amsn :/
[02:52] <SlackRat> mix, you have to be a  bit more specific?
[02:52] <frit> i also tried with apt-cache search amsn but no way
[02:53] <Timsen> frit just edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:53] <mix_> SlackRat sure, the kuubuntu graphic is loading,the bar under logo is finished,but i see black window :(
[02:53] <frit> ok Timsen , but should i add in this file ? :)
[02:53] <frit> +what
[02:54] <SlackRat> check the kubuntu forums under the version youre running
[02:54] <Timsen> you can check if the multiverse and universe repositories are included and that there is no ' infront the line
[02:54] <SlackRat> ive heard that before, you may have to configure xorg to run right
[02:54] <Timsen> i mena no # infront of the line @ frit
[02:54] <frit> right Timsen
[02:54] <frit> thx
[02:54] <mix_> ok,i'll check it /SlackRat
[02:55] <Timsen> after you commented the line in, you first must an apt-get update @ frit
[02:55] <frit> ok
[02:55] <frit> i'll do that
[02:55] <Timsen> good luck
[02:55] <frit> because i aslo wanted xchat
[02:55] <frit> but i can only get xchat-gnome
[02:55] <frit> which i din'yt like wery much :p
[02:56] <frit> thx Timsen
[02:56] <frit> later ;)
[02:56] <Timsen> you could have a look to konversation
[02:56] <Timsen> it is also a nice irc client as i know
[02:57] <frit> ?
[02:57] <frit> i don't know this one :)
[02:57] <frit> i'll test ^^
[02:58] <eilker> aftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?
[02:59] <eilker> how can i solve that ?
[03:00] <frit> cool Timsen it's nice :) i prefer taht than xchat :)
[03:03] <wargoth> hi all
[03:06] <pwn4tt4ck> hey, have a question in the offtopic, someone plz answer?
[03:17] <eilker> Segmentation fault kiba-dock , any experience ?
[03:27] <devilsadvocate> how do i increase my mouse sensitivity?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:32] <jhutchins> Mornin' BluesKaj.
[03:35] <BluesKaj> hi jhutchins , how goes it ?  .... lotsa splittsville here lately
[03:40] <nino> una scomoda verit
[03:41] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:41] <nino> ciao
[03:41] <BluesKaj> !it
[03:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:49] <eze> wath it is?
[03:51] <jokin> hi
[03:51] <jokin> is there someone alive?
[03:51] <jokin> :-)
[03:51] <fzf> nope sry :P
[03:52] <jokin> fzf: should I use adept for select/deselect universe/multiverse?
[03:52] <jokin> where can I configure that with a GUI?
[03:52] <fzf> yes why not
[03:52] <fzf> u can do it w/ adept
[03:52] <jokin> I know how to do it by hand in konsole, but is I need to know if it is posible with gui for a friend
[03:52] <jokin> fzf: where adept have that option?
[03:53] <fzf> w8
[03:53] <jokin> I selected view propietary and restricted
[03:53] <khaije> my X server isn't displaying the color black properly, it's a mix of granulated colors. Restarting X seems to fix this but does anyone know if I can fix it w/o losing my current session?
[03:53] <jokin> and if I do apt-cache search mplayer there is not package
[03:53] <jokin> neither wine or other
[03:53] <fzf> select view > repo or something like that
[03:54] <fzf> im not using english version
[03:55] <khaije> it only happens after a reboot for some reason meh
[03:56] <LL_Hakaisou> oy...
[03:56] <fzf> khaije that might be ur display driver fault
[03:56] <LL_Hakaisou> what ports do i need to forward in my router for ktorrent?
[03:56] <guiden_> how do I get rid of old search history? If I get a match with an old search thing, the old replaces the words that I typed
[03:56] <khaije> fzf: that sounds reasonable, it's the nvidia restricted blob :-/
[03:57] <fzf> khaije switch to vesa and check it up then
[03:58] <LL_Hakaisou> guiden_ | that's usually a browser thing, what browser are you using?
[03:58] <guiden_> konqueror
[03:59] <fuel> why is kwin-crystal binded to kubuntu-default-setting?
[04:01] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry, i couldn't tell you man
[04:01] <LL_Hakaisou> i use firefox myself
[04:01] <guiden_> ok
[04:02] <slawek> hello
[04:02] <LL_Hakaisou> god i cannot wait for my ram shipment to come in
[04:02] <slawek> i'm new to linux
[04:02] <LL_Hakaisou> salwek | hello
[04:02] <LL_Hakaisou> slawek even
[04:02] <slawek> and i have few questions
[04:02] <chino> does the k cd have the same stuff as the regular one ?
[04:02] <JackPhil> howto get root privilege with konqueror?
[04:02] <slawek> first about the mic in skype
[04:02] <JackPhil> must kdesu?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> JackPhil,  basicially
[04:02] <slawek> it doesn't work
[04:03] <LL_Hakaisou> JackPhil | open a terminal and use the command kdesu konqueror
[04:03] <Dr_willis> JackPhil,  i tend to use 'mc' in a terminal, to do my root file managing needs. :)
[04:03] <chino> can you guys send me a link for the live cd ?
[04:03] <jhutchins> LL_Hakaisou: Why a terminal?  Why not just Alt-F2?
[04:03] <LL_Hakaisou> same thing really
[04:04] <LL_Hakaisou> i have an applet button for Konsole on my kicker
[04:04] <visik7> anyone here use filelight
[04:04] <LL_Hakaisou> woo, look at me slinging around the process names XD
[04:04] <chino> whats up with the alternate cd ?
[04:04] <LL_Hakaisou> alternate CD?
[04:04] <LL_Hakaisou> O_)
[04:04] <jhutchins> chino: The kubuntu CD uses KDE, the ubuntu CD uses Gnome.
[04:05] <LL_Hakaisou> did you buy a bundle or something?
[04:05] <chino> jhutchins:  thats the only differnce ?
[04:05] <chino> im just wondering if they are biased
[04:05] <Dr_willis> first thing i do is put an icon for Konsole onto the panel.
[04:05] <jhutchins> !alternate | chino
[04:05] <ubotu> chino: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:05] <chino> like if kubuntu is 2nd rate
[04:05] <slawek> what to do with that??? "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3320"                                                                                                    swt-pi-gtk in swt.library.path, java.libary.path or the jar file
[04:05] <Dr_willis> chino,  i install Ubuntu and Kubuntu both . :) that way i can use gnome or kde.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Linux is about Choices.
[04:05] <chino> lol
[04:05] <chino> dont give me a speach
[04:06] <chino> i been using linux 6 years
[04:06] <jhutchins> chino: There's also xubuntu, which uses xfce.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> 6 yrs? thats it!
[04:06] <chino> i jsut want to see how good kubuntu got since last time i tried it
[04:06] <LL_Hakaisou> or you can install either one and then install the GUI package of your choice later
[04:06] <chino> heh.. thats it!
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I got underware older then that. :)
[04:06] <LL_Hakaisou> the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI
[04:06] <chino> thats funny that they call xfce light weight... sure its smaller but its not light weight.... they should have a blackbox or xwin version for a "light wieght" desktop
[04:06] <LL_Hakaisou> I've been using linux for......... 2 weeks :D
[04:07] <Dr_willis> I normally install the 'ubuntu' version, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop first thing.   some tools i like to use are gnome bases, some are kde based..
[04:07] <LL_Hakaisou> I've also decided that I'm not gonna go back to windows =D
[04:07] <chino> idk i just had a feeling kubuntu was being less developed i was wondering why gnome is the default... i think kde is better but i know its opinion
[04:07] <Dr_willis> gnome is the default because from a 'tech support' point of view i guess.. its 'easier' to  keep people from screwing things up. :)
[04:08] <chino> i personally wonna see this new gui based management tool you guys been working on to replace the kde control center.....
[04:08] <Dr_willis> easier to  teach when theres less options.
[04:08] <LL_Hakaisou> Now, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get lynched for asking this, but is there a Vista/OSX like GUI package for linux?
[04:08] <chino> and whats up with the osdl desktop installer .. .they ever finish that yet ?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> LL_Hakaisou,  you mean a OS-X theme for KDE ?
[04:08] <LL_Hakaisou> not really a theme
[04:08] <schtr4jh> hello!
[04:09] <LL_Hakaisou> mostly widgets
[04:09] <schtr4jh> can anybody help me?
[04:09] <slawek> one more time :Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3320 or swt-pi-gtk in swt.library.path, java.libary.path or the jar file
[04:09] <LL_Hakaisou> schtr4jh | Hello!
[04:09] <slawek> i got that when i;m trying to run azureus
[04:09] <LL_Hakaisou> we will attempt to
[04:09] <schtr4jh> i want to mount my d: partition on windows xp, that ican usethat files on kubuntu
[04:09] <Dr_willis> LL_Hakaisou,  theres the superkaramba stuff for all sorts of idiotic desktop widgets. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> schtr4jh,   huh.. we need co clarify what you are doing.
[04:10] <LL_Hakaisou> i take offense with that idiotic desktop widget comment.... XFD
[04:10] <Dr_willis> your D: is a windows drive?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> LL_Hakaisou,  good. :)
[04:10] <LL_Hakaisou> haha
[04:10] <chino> so the live cd is also an installer ?.... isn' that wierd ? are they trying to breka the paradigm ?  i gues it would be easier to just create a tool that runs on a stable live cd to install...
[04:10] <Dr_willis> LL_Hakaisou,  after seeing the plague of eyecandy comming this way....
[04:10] <schtr4jh> no...my windows drive is C, but i have music, movies, programs on D partition (drive)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> chino,  using a live cd as an installer is gettting common.
[04:11] <LL_Hakaisou> there is only one legitmate widget i really want
[04:11] <LL_Hakaisou> post-it notes
[04:11] <Dr_willis> schtr4jh,  but it is a WINDOWS FORMATED Drive.. since its D: its using NTFS filesystem?
[04:11] <soulrider> chino: it pissed me off when i downloaded hte suse live DVD and discovered i couldnt install it with it. Sucha  waste of bandwith and media
[04:11] <Dr_willis> 'windows drive' = one thats useable by windows. :)
[04:11] <LL_Hakaisou> 5 bucks says yes
[04:11] <schtr4jh> yes, it is using ntfs
[04:11] <Dr_willis> schtr4jh,  theres a great many docs out on how to get read/write access to ntfs partitions.  lets see....
[04:11] <soulrider> lol
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[04:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:12] <LL_Hakaisou> wait though
[04:12] <Dr_willis> schtr4jh,  for read only access its fairly easy.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[04:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:12] <LL_Hakaisou> it's not truly safe to use though
[04:12] <soulrider> im going to study, bbl!
[04:12] <Dr_willis> I go the other route and let windows read/write my ext2/3 partitions
[04:12] <soulrider> i use ntfs-3g and it worked like a charm
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[04:12] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:13] <LL_Hakaisou> which reminds me
[04:13] <comosicus> hy
[04:13] <LL_Hakaisou> nah, i'll mess with that later
[04:13] <slawek> so i'm guessing no one had that problem with java??
[04:13] <slawek> ;/
[04:14] <comosicus> i'm trying to connect on a specific server and i can't do it. where i can ask for help
[04:14] <Dr_willis> slawek,  i cant recall many problems with it
[04:14] <slawek> sh**
[04:14] <Dr_willis> comosicus,  connect 'how' ?
[04:14] <comosicus> i trying use kopete to connect on a irc server
[04:15] <slawek> google didn't helped either
[04:15] <okay> hi
[04:15] <guiden_> GOOGLE IS STORING DATABASES OF PEOPLES SEARCHES!
[04:15] <andrian> greetings, in drapper and edgy as well the dma is droped on eject, have to put it back manually every time to read a dvd, is there a solution to that ?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> guiden_,  so?
[04:16] <slawek> guiden yes it is but not with my problems :D
[04:16] <comosicus> i'v been add the server on my  kopete but ........ name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.
[04:16] <guiden_> dr_willis, it's about integrity and freedom
[04:16] <guiden_> don't you know about that stuff?
[04:16] <comosicus> what it means " name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect."
[04:16] <chino> yea in reality its a dam good idea... iget to donwload the live cd use it as a full blown desktop... then just install it!! yea..
[04:16] <Dr_willis> guiden_,  and this is imporntant to a LINUX channel in what way...
[04:16] <chino> so should i get the desktop one or the alternate ?
[04:17] <Chousuke> guiden_: What does it matter if google knows what people search for.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> comosicus,  i would guess the dns server failed to get the ip of the servername
[04:17] <chino> can i still get the addvanced setup menu in the desktop cd ?
[04:17] <guiden_> I just asked how do get rid of the search history in konqureror
[04:17] <Dr_willis> chino,  advanced setup?
[04:17] <guiden_> and now I found out,
[04:17] <chino> this is my work laptop im gonna resize the ntfs partition create a new one and install ubuntu there my self... im sure ubuntu can use the 2.6 kernel and the new swap file paradigm... but  I CANNOT HAVE SOME AUTOMATED INSTALLER FRY MY NTFS PARTITION!!!
[04:17] <Jucato> !caps
[04:17] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:17] <chino> yea you said the alternate cd had an advanced installer...
[04:18] <comosicus> so what shoud i do?
[04:18] <Chousuke> guiden_: It's their service, and they can store the search keywords you send to them if they want.
[04:18] <chino> i know ubuntu is debian based and last time i let debian installer   work on its own it created like 20 partitions and fried my other ones
[04:18] <chino> lol
[04:18] <Dr_willis> chino,  i had the alternative cd installer resize the ntfs on my laptop. worked fine.. but it pays to backup your hd first.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> chino,  given how much hd's fail.. if you got imporntatnt stuff on your hd.. BACK IT UP now.. :)
[04:18] <chino> hm i thought linux cant resize ntfs ? last time i used the gparted live cd it said it couldn't touch ntfs
[04:19] <Chousuke> guiden_: I'd only be worried if they offered a service to see what someone (that is, a specific person) has searched for.
[04:19] <slawek> thx anyway
[04:19] <slawek> c ya
[04:19] <chino> i dont have important stuff its just a new laptop and if i fry the windows install the corny little ms centric admin here is not gonna give me local admin rights again cause hes gonna have to redo it all over again
[04:19] <Dr_willis> chino,  i think resizing ntfs is getting to be standard/common now. for disrtos.. HOWEVER.. the vista 'improvements' to ntfs. i hear break  the linxu support for ntfs
[04:19] <guiden_> well that's where we are heading, fascism, corporation of everything, the colloborate together in order to control people
[04:19] <guiden_> seriously, usa is heading for fascism
[04:19] <Chousuke> may be.
[04:20] <comosicus> i did not find and alternative server so i really whant to acces this oane
[04:20] <guiden_> after that faked 9/11
[04:20] <Dr_willis> chino,  use a live cd and image the whole hd over over the network to some other machine. :)
[04:20] <Chousuke> Good thing then that I don't live there :)
[04:20] <chino> due im just gonna use the insatlled XP to resize the ntfs drive... why play around?
[04:20] <chino> can i do that ?
[04:20] <chino> what just using dd or something ?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> chino,  i tend to use mondo/mindi. but I belive theres some ntfs specific tools out as well.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> dd can be a bit 'hard-kore' to use. ;)
[04:21] <Dr_willis> and a typo with dd  can be deadly
[04:21] <comosicus> server irc-hispano:6668. this is the server
[04:21] <comosicus> doc  will you help me please
[04:21] <BluesKaj> I suggest you DL Gparted partition Editor , it's a live cd and works very well ...it's aboot disk so make sure your boot sequence looks at the cdrom first
[04:21] <Dr_willis> irc-hispano dosent sound like a correct server name to me.
[04:21] <Dr_willis>  ping irc-hispano.org
[04:21] <Dr_willis> PING irc-hispano.org (194.149.73.80) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:22] <Dr_willis>  however   irc-hispano.org    DOES respond. :)
[04:22] <Dr_willis> so try that server.
[04:22] <chino> Dr_willis:  well like i said im just gonna resize it in xp and ill try to image the resized partition ... but never the less will the desktop version cd allow me to control how the partitions are allocated when i want to install ?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> chino,  ive never noticed XP haveing a 'resize' option/feature
[04:23] <Dr_willis> the desktop cd has a lot of optons on where to partition things.. but i rarely use the lve cd to install. I perfer the alt-install cd.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsprogs.8.html       - the 'ntfs' tools have ntfs clone and other tools. :) you could mirror image your hd over the net to a spare machine.
[04:24] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:24] <chino> Dr_willis:  if you go to control_panel -> admin tools -> computer management -> disk management .... cant i use that ?
[04:24] <comosicus> try what sever since irc hispano does not respond.....you gave me just irc hispano sever
[04:25] <Dr_willis> chino,  i cant rember the last time i use XP..
[04:25] <chino> yea ill just go into the freenode#windows chat... lololol funny that we have one
[04:25] <Dr_willis> chino,  every time i boot to xp it always wants to download updates and force me to reboot.. so.. i rarely use it any more.
[04:26] <Dr_willis> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page        - is also a must have 'live cd' for system repair/backup/fixing. :) and that gparted live cd./
[04:26] <weatherman> hi, I'm setting up nfs, how do I know the ip of the server?
[04:26] <chino> anyway Dr_willis i have a feeling too that i woudl rather have th alternate cd.. but tell you truth i still wonna have a nice desktop visual cd load up so i can show off how easy it is... people allways argue that linux is so hard... last time i installed kubuntu it was less clicks than windows.. and i bet its better and prettier now... so does the alternate cd come packed iwth "extra" or is it all text based?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> chino,  the latest Knoppix live cd - has Beryl support and other eye candy
[04:27] <Dr_willis> alt cd has different options and a bit more control, and is all text based
[04:27] <Dr_willis> i find it faster. it also is better for low end systems
[04:28] <chino> Dr_willis:  i dont want ot use Knoppix!!! i thought kubuntu live cd came with all the beryl support too ?
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> !WIDGET
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> bah
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> i must find a post it widget
[04:28] <Dr_willis> chino,  not that i have seen.. at least not USED by default on the live cd...
[04:28] <Jucato> ??
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> oh, hello jucato
[04:28] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: knotes? superkaramba?
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> when'd you get here
[04:28] <Dr_willis> chino,  ive only seen a few live cd's at all that use the Beryl stuff.. its getting more common however.
[04:28] <LL_Hakaisou> !knotes
[04:28] <ubotu> knotes: KDE sticky notes. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 241 kB, installed size 836 kB
[04:29] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: knotes is installed by default
[04:29] <Dr_willis> chino,  the ubuntu/kubuntu live cd's are rather 'basic' live cd compared to the others out.
[04:29] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: it's started in Kontact, iirc
[04:29] <LL_Hakaisou> oh holy shit yes
[04:29] <chino> hmm. choices choices
[04:30] <chino> yea maybe ill get both because i want to show off the beryl stuff....
[04:30] <Dr_willis> i have a stack of live cd's here. :)
[04:30] <chino> i thought kubuntu installation though came with all the beryl support baked in ?
[04:30] <LL_Hakaisou> i just shelled it
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Puppy linux, Knoppix,  DSL, all had new versions out this week
[04:30] <Dr_willis> chino,  Nope.. bo Beryl by default.
[04:30] <Dr_willis> chino,  the next release was supposed to have it i think..but it got removed also I belive
[04:30] <chino> what... . i sware to god i read that ubuntu has beryl support in x11 and everything allready part of it
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks for the knotes tip jucato
[04:31] <Dr_willis> It has 'support' but its not installed by default.. and given howmuch of a problem beryl is...
[04:31] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: sure
[04:31] <comosicus> hey doc do you know a spanish channel on ubuntu?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> Beryl is best tried with a live cd... and then rebooted and not used for real work
[04:31] <Dr_willis> !es
[04:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:31] <comosicus> thank's
[04:32] <chino> hm i think im gonna download the new knoppix cd then
[04:32] <chino> just for kicks
[04:32] <chino> so o 6.06.1 is the newesst ?
[04:32] <Malph> 6.10
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Feisty Fawn is in testing
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Edgy Eft was the last release. Dapper is the LTS release
[04:33] <Dr_willis> i thinki got that right. :)
[04:34] <Malph> yup but might help others if you put release numbers with the names
[04:34] <Dr_willis> the relase #'s are just the stupid dates. :)
[04:34] <Dr_willis> i found that use of release #'s to be... weird.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> may as well call them    by the names of the  err... states as the entered the union. :)
[04:35] <Dr_willis> heh heh... but ive seen way too many arguments about this.. so i wont start another.
[04:37] <Malph> so dapper was released in may 2006 and edgy was released october of 2006
[04:37] <chino> thanks later
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Malph,  somthing like that..
[04:37] <Dr_willis> edgy was delayed i thought a month however.
[04:37] <Jucato> 6.06 = 2006-06 = 2006 June
[04:37] <Malph> not a bad way of numbering but i kinda prefure the milestones
[04:38] <Jucato> Dr_willis: no. Edgy wasn't delayed
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  what one got delayed then? ive frogotten. :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> then again - now a days i purposly wait 2 months befor updating.
[04:38] <Jucato> Dapper
[04:38] <Dr_willis> its a ZOO out there!
[04:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:38] <patriciacaba> jucato: dapper
[04:38] <Jucato> Dapper got delayed for 2 months, hence, released in June instead of April
[04:38] <Dr_willis> ZooBuntu!
[04:39] <Jucato> Edgy was released on time, which meant that it only had 4 months to be developed
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ZooBuntu would be a neat name..
[04:39] <patriciacaba>  months, hence, release in june instead of april
[04:39] <fuel> Jucato: hello!
[04:39] <Jucato> fuel: hi
[04:40] <Dr_willis> 'History of Ubuntu 101'
[04:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> hows the Fiesty release schedule look ?
[04:40] <Malph> sounds kinda like xubuntu
[04:40] <Jucato> !feisty | BluesKaj
[04:40] <ubotu> BluesKaj: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:41] <fuel> blender crashed my system!!!
[04:41] <fuel> :(
[04:41] <patriciacaba> hellooooooooooooo you are whore or prostitute
[04:41] <Jucato> patriciacaba: if you have nothing constructive to do here, please leave
[04:41] <eXistenZ> How can I remap keys in Kubuntu?
[04:41] <patriciacaba> your laugther or son prostituto or whoreeeeee   jeje
[04:42] <Jucato> bah
[04:42] <BluesKaj> hey Jucato , yeah but what's the werd on the.....inside ?   ;>)
[04:42] <LjL> Jucato: you should learn to pre-type the ban and just keep a finger above Enter
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: nah i came to bug you
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> anyway to clear out my swap
[04:43] <Admiral_Chicago> something is using all of it, I think X
[04:43] <fuel> Jucato: does the transperancy in kwin-crystal work ?
[04:43] <Jucato> BluesKaj: dunno. been out whole day
[04:43] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, you should be working on kubuntu doc with me :)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, funny , it looks to me like my swap never gets used
[04:44] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: *should*?
[04:44] <Jucato> you're actually telling me that I *should* be doing something? O.o
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> haha. i'm working off the SVN, reading them and sending patches to the appropriate people
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> got any ideas about my question
[04:45] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nope. no idea...
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> probably something with Feisty
[04:45] <Jucato>  you know where to ask. :D
[04:45] <jhutchins_lt> Admiral_Chicago: How muc ram you have?
[04:46] <Malph> so is the a channel on freenode devoted to ubuntu on ppc
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> jhutchins_lt: gig
[04:47] <jhutchins_lt> So it shouldn't be swapping...
[04:47] <Admiral_Chicago> no my syset load is under 25% usually
[04:48] <Jucato> Malph: none that I know of. Ubuntu will be dropping official PPC support btw.
[04:48] <LL_Hakaisou> PPC seems to be going the way of the dodo anyway
[04:48] <jhutchins_lt> Admiral_Chicago: You know tmp goes to ram now, right?  Something filling up /tmp?
[04:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll look
[04:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm maybe SuperKaramba
[04:50] <Malph> LL_Hakaisou: true but if you work for a company that is owned by a mac fanatic and your VP of IT is also a mac fanatic you seem to find a lrge number of G4's laying around that would make good testing platforms if they were running linux as appossed to OS X Unix
[04:52] <Admiral_Chicago> took care of that...
[04:52] <fzf> !pl
[04:52] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:52] <sredna> hi
[04:52] <LL_Hakaisou> well said
[04:52] <kubuntuero> can I Pipe sound across a network?
[04:52] <sredna> what is required for basic development work (compiling)?
[04:53] <sredna> which package, i mean
[04:53] <kubuntuero> !b-E | sredna
[04:53] <ubotu> sredna: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:53] <virus> slt
[04:53] <jhutchins_lt> kubuntuero: Yes.
[04:54] <sredna> build-essential, thank you :)
[04:56] <kubuntuero> jhutchins_lt: What do I need to install?
[04:56] <virus> please help me
[04:56] <azzco> virus: what's your problem?
[04:56] <jhutchins_lt> virus: We can't unlss you say what's wrong.
[04:57] <kubuntuero> !help
[04:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:57] <jhutchins_lt> virus: Please tell us what IS happening, not what's not happening.
[04:57] <kubuntuero> !ask
[04:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:58] <azzco> I've got a bit of tourble over here, qtparted recognises my HD as busy while I'm running liveCD.
[04:58] <azzco> oops typo
[04:58] <fuel> virus in a linux channel!! not possibe :D
[04:58] <virus> my problem I want to configure tor and privoxy I veu a simple method
[04:59] <virus> im dont speak english
[04:59] <kubuntuero> !tor
[04:59] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[04:59] <azzco> Isn't there language specific channels?
[04:59] <Malph> virus: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/02/how-to-install-tor-privoxy-kubuntu-606-610/
[05:00] <Jucato> !proxy
[05:00] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[05:00] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[05:00] <virus> thx Mr Malph
[05:00] <kubuntuero> virus: What language?
[05:01] <virus> french
[05:01] <Jucato> !fr | virus
[05:01] <ubotu> virus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:01] <virus> ok thx
[05:01] <albert> !dictionary
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <albert> mmh
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> albert: Kdict
[05:02] <albert> ty
[05:02] <fuel> !ta
[05:02] <fuel> ?
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <fuel> :D
[05:03] <azzco> I need some help with enlarging my root partition, qtparted doesn't want to resize it =/
[05:04] <pointwood_> may I just say that Feisty is shaping up nicely :)
[05:04] <kubuntuero> pointwood_: No you may not!!
[05:04] <kubuntuero> Oh wait
[05:04] <pointwood_> <== running feisty herd5 currently :)
[05:04] <pointwood_> hehe
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> it is very nice
[05:04] <kubuntuero> Maybe you can...
[05:04] <BruceLeeds> Hi, mal ne frage: hat jemand hier erfahrung mit dem dateiformatsystem xfs?
[05:05] <azzco> pointwood_: What was new in feisty?
[05:05] <jhutchins_lt> !de | BruceLeeds
[05:05] <ubotu> BruceLeeds: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> !feisty
[05:05] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> azzco: ^^
[05:05] <kubuntuero> azzco: read the release notes 1 through 5 :)
[05:05] <BruceLeeds> thanks ubotu - acctually I know - I just chose the wrong channel ;-) Sorry for that
[05:05] <azzco> lol sorry ^^ I'd like to try it out as I've found some nice free space hehe
[05:06] <pointwood_> it still doesn't want to work together with the internal card reader in my laptop and the fingerprint reader isn't used either, but I know it should be possible to get that working
[05:06] <jhutchins_lt> azzco: Old style:  back up data, repartition, reformat.
[05:07] <azzco> jhutchins_lt: oh I need to reformat it =/
[05:07] <albert> !palm
[05:07] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[05:07] <albert> !emulator
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <kubuntuero> !qemu
[05:09] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:09] <kubuntuero> !xen
[05:09] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[05:09] <kubuntuero> Hmm I wonder of the qemu should be updated to Vista
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> !botabuse
[05:09] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:10] <azzco> While I'm installing kubuntu can I add some packages before installing?
[05:10] <LjL> albert: POSE is in Debian Testing, however it doesn't appear to be in Ubuntu Edgy, although it's referenced
[05:11] <albert> ljl: ah, what do you mean?
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> azzco: to teh live CD, yes. no the install no
[05:11] <pointwood_> one question: do you know whether knetworkmanager also supports WPA/WPA2 or is it really WEP only?
[05:11] <albert> !poes
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <albert> !pose
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pose - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> albert: please do a /msg ubotu so we all don't see it
[05:12] <LjL> albert: don't abuse the bot... i mean that POSE, a PalmOS emulator, is available in the Debian repositories, but for some reason it's not in Ubuntu
[05:12] <albert> Admiral_Chicago: k
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> ty.
[05:12] <albert> ljl: thank you
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> you can get it from debian, do a sudo dpkg -i *.deb and install it
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> won't be "official" but may work
[05:14] <kubuntuero> !wpa | pointwood_
[05:14] <ubotu> pointwood_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <pointwood_> thx
[05:19] <Kenshin> hi leute
[05:20] <Kenshin> redet hier keiner?
[05:21] <jhutchins_lt> !de | Kenshin
[05:21] <ubotu> Kenshin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:21] <kubuntuero> Hmm this is one of the largest channels on freenode
[05:22] <Kenshin> it seams so
[05:22] <apokryphos> kubuntuero: there are several larger ones. #ubuntu is _the_ largest though.
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu is massive
[05:22] <kubuntuero> Yeah I've noticed
[05:22] <kubuntuero> By the time your question has had time to formulate on teh screen it's gone
[05:23] <waylandbill> ubuntu channel is one step below chaos
[05:23] <Kenshin> for me it is a chaos
[05:25] <pointwood_> I'm tempted to upgrade to feisty now
[05:26] <jhutchins_lt> pointwood_: Why?  Looking to help find bugs?
[05:26] <albert> ljl: hi, i searched google for the debian repositories, but i only howtos for building up your own debian repositorie. can you tell me how to access them?
[05:27] <jhutchins_lt> albert: You might ask in #debian, or look at http://debian.org
[05:28] <pointwood_> jhutchins_lt: well, so far it runs pretty darn well :)
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> pointwood_: How do you know if you haven't upgraded yet?
[05:28] <pointwood_> and of course I will be submitting bug reports if I find any
[05:28] <pointwood_> jhutchins_lt: I'm running the livecd
[05:28] <BluesKaj> jhutchins , has (k)ubuntu published the exact date in April of the Fiesty release ?
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: No updates to the schedule last I checked.
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> From what we've seen here I'd say there are still some pretty major things to work out.
[05:29] <BluesKaj> I'll prolly wait til the next day to do athe net upgrade due to the traffic on 0 day :0
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> I'll give it a week or two for the same reason.  That, and Edgy is working fine for me.  If it ain't broke...
[05:30] <ale_> ...
[05:30] <BluesKaj> yeah edgy is working well , for me too
[05:30] <pointwood_> jhutchins_lt: what kind of problems?
[05:31] <pointwood_> and no, it's not like edgy is broken for me either :)
[05:31] <ale_> there is an italian?
[05:31] <Jucato> !it
[05:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> !it
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> pointwood_: Some video, systems integration, things like that.
[05:32] <ComputerHermit>  Iam reading in the fourm that ubuntu is  illegal on my pc in the US
[05:32] <ComputerHermit> is this true?
[05:33] <_AnA_> send the link
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> ComputerHermit: It's a question of interpretation of the law, and what packages you've installed.
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> ComputerHermit: At this point nobody is going to come arrest you for running it.
[05:33] <ComputerHermit> I have K and U
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> There are questions about things like mp3 decoders that may not be licensed for use in the U.S., but Microsoft just faced a lawsuit over the same issue.
[05:35] <ComputerHermit> kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:35] <pointwood_> jhutchins_lt: you're probably right that it's a good idea to wait :)
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> ComputerHermit: In  any case it is not illegal for you to run any linux distro you choose.
[05:35] <ComputerHermit> I dident think so I just wanted to ask thanks
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> ComputerHermit: I'd be interested in a link to what you read.
[05:36] <ComputerHermit> ok hang
[05:38] <waylandbill> ComputerHermit: it's not that a linux distro will be illegal for you to use. There are add-on packages that may add functionality that is illegal in some places. Decoding DVDs could be an example.
[05:39] <ale_> #ostiachat
[05:39] <ale_> kgjkj
[05:41] <hori> este vreun romana pe aicea
[05:42] <hori> sugeti pula m
[05:42] <hori> toti sa va fut in gura de fraieri
[05:42] <cj_> whois
[05:42] <ComputerHermit> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378171       and this one
[05:42] <cj_> that one
[05:43] <ComputerHermit> but I cant find it right now
[05:43] <cj_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378171
[05:43] <ComputerHermit> that one
[05:43] <cj_> that two
[05:43] <ComputerHermit> its the same lol
[05:43] <cj_> that three
[05:43] <ComputerHermit> we are good
[05:44] <ComputerHermit> hey Iam look at this frink guy said somethink of the same
[05:44] <ComputerHermit> something
[05:44] <ComputerHermit> this is why I asked he was saying we all useing this illigy OS
[05:45] <ComputerHermit> I was like no way
[05:45] <ComputerHermit> so I asked in here
[05:45] <cj_> ComputerHermit: sorry just never mind me
[05:45] <ComputerHermit> I dont RIP DVD's so
[05:46] <waylandbill> if it's all GPL (or similar free license) software, theres not a chance for it to be illegal.
[05:46] <ComputerHermit> see ya cj_
[05:47] <dell190> do anyone here know how i can login as Root
[05:47] <waylandbill> !sudo | dell190
[05:47] <ubotu> dell190: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:48] <dell190> i dont need to run a program.. i need to add a file to the ECT directory
[05:48] <hatta> waylandbill, distributing GPL programs that violate patents is still illegal
[05:49] <waylandbill> hatta: you got a point there.
[05:49] <waylandbill> dell190: that applies. as does !kdesu
[05:49] <waylandbill> !kdesu
[05:49] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:49] <hatta> patents are the reason ubuntu can't ship with mp3 support
[05:50] <placo> anyone knows the keyboard shurtcut to shutdown your pc?
[05:50] <waylandbill> hatta: right. even though the program itself is licensed that way. I understand.
[05:52] <dell190> so there is no way to drag and drop a file to that Directory ??
[05:52] <waylandbill> dell190: kdesu konqueror
[05:53] <waylandbill> then you should be able to
[05:53] <ComputerHermit> so is tis operating system stable and the security levels stable as well?
[05:54] <Malph> dell190: there are always reasons to learn the CLI
[05:54] <ComputerHermit> this*
[05:54] <placo> anyone knows the keyboard shurtcut to shutdown your pc?
[05:55] <eilker> my ISP's DNS servers close some site, i need a software  like * TreeWalk DNS* for linux, any suggestion pls ?
[05:55] <dell190> i just got this last night, so i am completly new to the whole Linux world
[05:56] <placo> is there any keyboard shurtcut to shutdown your pc?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Learn the command line. :) its your best tool for trouble shooting.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> placo,  alt-ctrl-backspace can be set to kick it into shutdown mode.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> well alt-ctrl-delete
[05:56] <backwardsdown> #sudo shutdown -h now <-- if ther is a commandline available
[05:57] <Dr_willis> depends on where you are at. Heh.. alt-ctrl-bs = kills X, alt-ctrl-del will then shutdown or reboot..
[05:57] <chavo> ctrl-alt-delete brings up the logout dialog, but you can set to whatever you want
[05:57] <dell190> wow this takes alot of work just to set up a dial up connection
[05:57] <Dr_willis> dialup? egads...
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> given the work ive had to do with other os's and modems in the past.. :) it often pays to have a 'real' external serial modem.
[05:58] <dell190> and it says that resolv.conf is missing and i need to add it and i cant cause ACCESS DENIED  GAH !!!!!
[05:59] <Dr_willis> to edit system type files - you need to do it as root/with sudo
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rather simple concept. :)
[05:59] <dell190> i dunno how to do that
[05:59] <Dr_willis> its odd that its missing... its generated by the networking config scripts
[05:59] <Dr_willis> it should be generated when your dialer stuff starts up and connects.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> but i havent ever used a modem under ubuntu.. so dont know for sure what generates it.
[06:00] <dell190> when the KPPP starts thats when it tells me that it is missing
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Every user, who is in the dip/dialout groups, can use kppp to configure, connect and manage a connection to an ISP.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> It may be you are not in the right group to configure stuff
[06:01] <Dr_willis> try 'sudo kppp' from a terminal ?
[06:02] <placo> @ Dr willis, neither of these keys to shutdown work, except for ctr alt backspace, but how to configure it to shutdown?
[06:03] <jhutchins> There are braindead ISP's who don't feed the DNS info over the PPP connection.
[06:03] <jhutchins> dell190: Do you know what the nameserver's IP address should be?
[06:03] <jhutchins> dell190: Linux is a child of the internet and isn't quite as dial-up friendly as it could be.
[06:03] <dell190> no i dont
[06:04] <jhutchins> (Althought the first project I used it for was an automatic dial-on-demand router.)
[06:04] <jhutchins> dell190: Ok, you need to find that out.  Are you in Windows?
[06:04] <dell190> this one is on windows, my desktop is on Kubuntu
[06:04] <jhutchins> Ok, I presume you're connected over the same dial-up link you'll be using, right?
[06:05] <dell190> yes
[06:05] <jhutchins> I believe you can run winipcfg and it will show you the DNS setings, try that.
[06:05] <dell190> Ok
[06:06] <jhutchins> Your ISP's web site may also have that info.
[06:06] <jhutchins> dell190: You'll want the mail server addresses and possibly the news server as well, might as well check them all now.
[06:06] <dell190> ok i got the DNS servers address
[06:07] <jhutchins> There would be more than one...
[06:07] <dell190> yeah there is 2
[06:07] <jhutchins> In kubuntu, open a terminal window.
[06:07] <dell190> k
[06:09] <dell190> ok i got it open
[06:09] <jhutchins> type sudo echo "nameserver <first IP> <enter>nameserver <second IP>" > /etc/resolv.conf
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[06:10] <jhutchins> It should ask for your password.
[06:11] <dell190> it said no such file or directory
[06:13] <dell190> ok it worked the 2nd time..
[06:13] <dell190> i am going to try an connect... brb
[06:13] <Dr_willis> hmm guess placo figured it out... :)
[06:24] <jhutchins> dell190:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html would be worth some time.
[06:26] <ermak> How to turn off antialiasing in applications run with kdesu (such as Adept Updater/Installer)?
[06:26] <keith> hello all.  I am trying to install the package "python-qt3-gl" via aptitude.  when i search, the package is not on the list.  when I google, I can find it on the ubuntu site but of course i wont have the dependencies. i've tried 'aptitude update' but it still does not show.
[06:27] <laboratorio> UNIDAD
[06:27] <icefox> Who maintians system settings?
[06:27] <laboratorio> BIT
[06:27] <laboratorio> BYTE
[06:27] <laboratorio> KILOBYTE(KB)
[06:27] <laboratorio> MEGABY (MB)
[06:27] <laboratorio> GYGABYTE (GB)
[06:27] <laboratorio> TERABYTE (TB)
[06:30] <ermak> keith: it's strange, on Edgy I have just used "apt-get install python-qt3-gl" and this works...
[06:32] <keith> ermak: ok thanks, i'll try that.  and to get multiple packages i would just list them in a row, yes?
[06:32] <Bonaldo2000> Can anyone tell me what to do if the kopete-message boxes are not flashing in the taskbar when I receive a message? It happens when using some styles I think. CUrrently I use polyester. Is there somewere I can enable the flashing again?
[06:33] <elvis> Is there any way to get flash installed on 64 bit ubuntu
[06:34] <ermak> keith: check your /etc/apt/sources.list, and if u need to insall several packages it is possible to use 'apt-get install package1 package2 ...'
[06:34] <keith> ok, thanks again
[06:35] <jon_> keith: or aptitude is great
[06:35] <Bonaldo2000> anyone?
[06:36] <keith> jon_: i couldn't find what i was looking for with aptitude
[06:36] <jon_> keith: to install instead of apt-get
[06:36] <c1|freaky> I love Kubuntu :D
[06:36] <jon_> :)
[06:37] <devilsadvocate> hi.. how do i increase the speed of my mouse pointer? i'm using a touchpad oon a laptop
[06:37] <c1|freaky> elvis: from what i've heard it still isn't. but ask someone else im not into the 64bit stuff.
[06:37] <jorge_> hablais espaol?
[06:37] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: system settings -> keyboard and mouse
[06:37] <jon_> !es | jorge_
[06:37] <ubotu> jorge_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:37] <posingaspopular> devilsadvocate: what Bonaldo2000 said
[06:38] <devilsadvocate> Bonaldo2000, posingaspopular I tried that but it hasnt helped :(
[06:39] <posingaspopular> under 'advanced'?
[06:39] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: did you change it under mouse->advanced->pointer acceleration?
[06:39] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: that should work
[06:39] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: just increase it
[06:39] <jon_> how do i log in to irc
[06:39] <jon_> change name
[06:39] <devilsadvocate> yes. thats what i did. I'll try again
[06:40] <devilsadvocate> thanks
[06:40] <fuel> jon_:  "/nick <yourName>"
[06:40] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: strange if it doesnt work
[06:40] <Bonaldo2000> devilsadvocate: maybe a problem with the xorg.conf...
[06:40] <devilsadvocate> possibly
[06:42] <Bonaldo2000> Still no one has any suggestion for this:
[06:42] <Bonaldo2000> Can anyone tell me what to do if the kopete-message boxes are not flashing in the taskbar when I receive a message? It happens when using some styles I think. CUrrently I use polyester. Is there somewere I can enable the flashing again?
[06:43] <fuel> Bonaldo2000:  what do you mean by flashing ?
[06:44] <fuel> Bonaldo2000: polyester is a wonderful theme :)
[06:44] <fuel> like it rotates ???
[06:46] <pauljw> Bonaldo2000: check under settings, preferences, chatting, general
[06:47] <pauljw> sorry Bonaldo2000 I was thinking Xchat... sorry
[06:49] <aphroguy> Quiet room today, wow.
[06:49] <Bonaldo2000> pauljw: ok! :-) Any other ideas?
[06:49] <Totem^> are there any wireless cracking prog on kubuntu?
[06:51] <pauljw> there's a flash system tray setting in configure, behavior, events.  but not sure that's what you want.
[06:51] <pauljw> Bonaldo2000: ^^^
[06:52] <Bonaldo2000> pauljw: hmm....no I dont think so because it is the taskbar I want to flash!
[06:53] <Bonaldo2000> As it is now I cant see if I receive a message in a conversation that I got going
[06:53] <aphroguy> Anyone know if Kubuntu is automatically updated for the DST patch?
[06:53] <Bonaldo2000> I mean if the conversation windows is already open
[06:54] <pauljw> Bonaldo2000: is that option currently checked, if not, try it.  couldn't hurt.  :)
[06:55] <Bonaldo2000> pauljw: nah you're right. It was checked though! :-)
[06:55] <pauljw> :(
[06:55] <dell190> grrrr.. this still aint workin
[06:58] <Totem^> are there any wireless cracking prog on kubuntu?
[06:59] <Bonaldo2000> Totem^: what do you mean wireless cracking?
[07:00] <Totem^> wanna see if i can get access to my network
[07:00] <hacked_kernel> hi
[07:00] <BluesKaj> Bonaldo2000, we don't help ppl to use other
[07:00] <jokin> where can I select universe repositories in kubuntu?
[07:01] <BluesKaj> open wireless networks
[07:01] <BluesKaj> it's uncool
[07:01] <Totem^> is there no way to test my networks vulnerability
[07:01] <jokin> where can I select universe repositories in kubuntu?
[07:02] <jokin> adept dont show me that
[07:02] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:02] <jokin> Bonaldo2000: isnt posible with GUI?
[07:02] <Bonaldo2000> uncoment the things the repos in there that are commented out
[07:02] <jokin> like in ubuntu?
[07:02] <jokin> I know Bonaldo2000 but this computer is for a friend
[07:02] <jokin> and dont know how to use a console :)
[07:02] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: , hm I think so...to sec
[07:03] <jokin> ok
[07:03] <jokin> adept cant do that
[07:03] <aphroguy> !DST
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <aphroguy> !Daylight Savings Time
[07:03] <BluesKaj> oops din't mean you Bonaldo2000, sorry  ... gotta check more closely
[07:03] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: yeah in adept..."manage repositories"
[07:04] <Totem^> no wireless apps to test vulnerability of network then?
[07:04] <Bonaldo2000> BluesKaj: hehe, ok...
[07:04] <jokin> where?
[07:04] <jokin> I cant see that in adept
[07:04] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: systems->apept
[07:04] <elvis> man I think Im going to get the 32 bit version of Ubuntu
[07:04] <elvis> too much crap dont work with 64 bit
[07:04] <BluesKaj> I meant Totem^ ...don't encourage wardriving here
[07:05] <Totem^> well im sat in my room :)
[07:05] <jokin> Bonaldo2000: I know adept indeed I am IN.. but not manage repos here
[07:05] <jokin> where in adept is that option?
[07:05] <jokin> here seems to be missing
[07:05] <keith> jokin: view -> manage repos
[07:05] <keith> jokin: by the way, thanks for coming to ask this question. i have similar problems :)
[07:06] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: did you figure it out?
[07:06] <jokin> keith: Here view is only with "look changes"
[07:06] <jokin> no more
[07:06] <jokin> repositories option is missing
[07:07] <BluesKaj> heh, my daughter bought a new laptop and the first time she turned it on the wireless sytem found 4 open networks in her building , so some ppl are just so behind the security curve in wireless it's just a crime .
[07:07] <jokin> Bonaldo2000: There is no repositories option in view
[07:07] <jokin> I can take an screenshot if you want
[07:08] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: its also under the "adept" menu
[07:08] <jokin> under adept menu is "exit"
[07:08] <jokin> no more
[07:08] <jokin> this seems to be a BIG bug
[07:08] <jokin> "the bug"
[07:09] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: ok thats strange. Did it ask for a password when you started it?
[07:09] <jokin> yep
[07:09] <jokin> wait
[07:11] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: wait for what?
[07:11] <jokin> I was in adept but from kde menu
[07:11] <jokin> not in system, for soft install/uninstall
[07:12] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: ok, is it there now then?
[07:12] <jokin> yes
[07:12] <jokin> why that adept is limited?
[07:12] <jokin> must go, thanks
[07:12] <Bonaldo2000> jokin: ok, then you just have to right-click the repositories that you want to enable
[07:12] <Bonaldo2000> (the ones with universe and multiverse)
[07:15] <matt____> how woudl I tell if I have linux 86 or 64
[07:17] <d03boy> I never installed gcc, make, etc... and now I need all that. How do i do it?
[07:17] <d03boy> i installed make and gcc but I dont have any libraries
[07:17] <waylandbill> matt____: look at the file /proc/cpuinfo
[07:18] <guiden_> How do I change the keyboard drivers, I can't do everything with my keyboard
[07:18] <guiden_> I must program
[07:18] <waylandbill> d03boy: install the 'build-essential' package
[07:18] <guiden_> it's these keys that access through Alt Gr
[07:20] <d03boy> ty
[07:20] <ermak> my system check filesystems (fat32 partitions) every time I boot, how to configure this?
[07:21] <m3y3m> salve...
[07:22] <m3y3m> mi servirebbe un po di assistenza....
[07:22] <SeicherlBoB> Hi there! can somebody help me getting my gcc up and running? it seems it cant find the system-libraries (like stdio.h)
[07:22] <d03boy> which ncurses packages do I need
[07:22] <d03boy> SeicherlBoB, haha, same problem
[07:23] <d03boy> I just installed build-essential
[07:23] <SeicherlBoB> d03boy: great! got an idea?
[07:23] <d03boy> build-essential will get you started. then you might need other things like ncurses which is where I'm at now
[07:23] <m3y3m> c' qualche italiano???
[07:23] <jhutchins> !it | m3y3m
[07:23] <ubotu> m3y3m: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:23] <SeicherlBoB> d03boy: hm. ok. thats a starting point.
[07:24] <m3y3m> ok grazie a te :)
[07:24] <SeicherlBoB> d03boy: but it says that this is only used for debian-packages ?!
[07:25] <d03boy> ubuntu is debian based..
[07:25] <SeicherlBoB> d03boy:  in know. but i dont want to build packages...
[07:25] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[07:27] <d03boy> anyone know which ncurses lib I need
[07:28] <Neuer> Guten Abend. Als ich vorhin ein Adept Paket update machen wollte und es eingefroren war, hab ich es im KDE mit den schliesen beendet. Seit dem kann ich keine Pakete mehr Updaten. Weis jemand rat?
[07:28] <d03boy> !de | Neuer
[07:28] <ubotu> Neuer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:28] <waylandbill> d03boy: generally the development package has -dev in its name.
[07:29] <d03boy> libncurses5-dev
[07:30] <waylandbill> there ya go
[07:30] <d03boy> voila
[07:31] <keith> ermak, all: thanks again, I also had to click 'fetch updates' and then the packages I was looking for appeared
[07:32] <eilker> how can i see web history in konqueror ? wasn't it  ctrl+h ?
[07:33] <Vamp898> Hi
[07:34] <Vamp898> when the new Kubuntu 7.10 is released, how to update it? On SuSE you had to download the newest CD
[07:34] <waylandbill> !dist-upgrade
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <waylandbill> Vamp898: you'd do a dist-upgrade
[07:34] <jhutchins> Vamp898: ubuntu's probably the best distribution at being able to upgrade from on-line repos without having to re-install from CD.
[07:35] <jhutchins> You may have some issues to iron out, but it's worth the time saved.
[07:35] <waylandbill> eilker: if you press f9, you can look at the history in the sidebar.
[07:35] <Vamp898> should i start any programm for this? or what says me that a new version is aviable
[07:35] <jhutchins> !upgrade | Vamp898
[07:35] <ubotu> Vamp898: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:36] <jhutchins> Vamp898: Same process will apply for Feisty.
[07:36] <jhutchins> Vamp898: I would wait until it's announced here, on the mailing lists, and on the website.
[07:36] <Vamp898> kk thx
[07:36] <Vamp898> one more question
[07:36] <jhutchins> It's due out next month but they haven't officially advanced it from alpha to beta yet.
[07:36] <eilker> waylandbill:thanx
[07:37] <Vamp898> without any changes, my keyboard change from german to englisch *im german*
[07:37] <Vamp898> how to set the keyboard to german agayn_
[07:37] <Vamp898> >
[07:37] <Vamp898> ?
[07:37] <jhutchins> Vamp898: That's probably one for #kubuntu-de
[07:38] <jhutchins> Setting locales happens in two or three places, you need to get them all to agree.
[07:44] <ultm8> hey folks
[07:44] <ultm8> a quick question
[07:45] <ultm8> in the terminal how do i copy a directories contents to another folder
[07:45] <ultm8> but not the actual directory itself
[07:45] <ultm8> for instance cp /home/username/folderwithcontents/  /home/username/differentdirectory/
[07:46] <tsdgeos> -R
[07:46] <ultm8> cp -r?
[07:46] <ultm8> cp -R
[07:47] <tsdgeos> man cp
[07:47] <ultm8> n1ce tsdgeos
[07:47] <ultm8> :)
[07:47] <tsdgeos> -R, -r, --recursive
[07:47] <tsdgeos>               copy directories recursively
[07:48] <ultm8> will try that out brb
[07:48] <Mena> Helloo!
[07:48] <Dr_willis> FAA May Ditch Microsoft's Windows Vista And Office For Google And Linux Combo
[07:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. that has potential. :)
[07:49] <ultm8> tsdgeos: i love u m8
[07:49] <ultm8> hahahahahahah
[07:49] <Mena> its seems to be that my Graphic need the #D accelerator is there a something for this
[07:49] <ultm8> :o)
[07:49] <Mena> 3D*
[07:49] <Dr_willis> Mena,  and your video card is a ?
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> Dr_willis: yeah, saw that, but now MS will give them free windows and office not to switch. Plus the FAA won't be able to buy them from dell or gateway, they won't want to go with a whitebox brand.
[07:49] <Mena> its pltn* and its 128 its with asus on the board
[07:50] <Dr_willis> heh you mean to say that MS is actually LOWERING its prices.. :)
[07:50] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: did they have to switch to vista first before deciding it was a bad thing?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> Dr_willis: of course there's always IBM
[07:50] <Dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  what if EVERYONE decided they wantd the apps for free also.
[07:51] <Mena> Dr_Willis, Do is there any thing or the infor not good :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> i still think that even if the windows and office was free..  in the long run the cost of using the google stuff would be cheeper.
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> waylandbill: they probably did a cost analysis and figured out that because they would have to buy all new PC's it would cost them $5M more than if they could just update the OS.
[07:51] <ultm8> tsdgeos: that didnt work
[07:51] <Mena> So*
[07:51] <ultm8> :o(
[07:51] <ultm8> it didnt copy all the files in that directory
[07:51] <tsdgeos> no?
[07:52] <ultm8> no
[07:52] <waylandbill> LeeJunFan: it's worth alot to not have to buy new PC's for sure.
[07:52] <tsdgeos> what did you type
[07:52] <tsdgeos> ?
[07:52] <jean-benoit> !fr
[07:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:52] <jean-benoit> !fr
[07:52] <ultm8> cp -R
[07:52] <ultm8> cp -R /home/username/ etc
[07:52] <LeeJunFan> I'll gladly set it up for them if they simply pay me the money they'd save in the first year. :)
[07:53] <waylandbill> :)
[07:53] <jean-benoit> !fr
[07:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:53] <ultm8> should i try it with lower -r
[07:53] <Dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  Hmm.. however isent MS just 'giving' stuff away to the  Federal Gov.. potentially 'bribe' terrotory. :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> what next.. 'free laptops to people that give ms good reviews?;
[07:53] <Dr_willis> oh wait.. that happened allready.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> well work time for me.
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> Dr_willis: yeah, like our gov't can't be bribed. The whole election fiasco is payed for by bribes.
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> AT&T & Microsoft are probably the biggest campaign donators.
[07:55] <LeeJunFan> but enough of that, before the OT police yell at us :)
[07:56] <lordkeiden> uncle bill gave me Office 2007 Pro, and I'm gonna use it to get it working on Linux. They hate it when i do that.
[07:56] <ultm8> can some1 help me plz
[07:56] <ultm8> :S
[07:57] <ultm8> its so easy but am still messing it up somehow.....
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: what with?
[07:57] <tsdgeos> ultm8: is etc an existing directory?
[07:57] <waylandbill> ultm8: what's your question again?
[07:57] <dell190> can someone please tell me how to login as root graphically
[07:57] <ultm8> ok i have a folder with content in it...
[07:57] <ultm8> am using the terminal
[07:57] <ultm8> i would like to only copy whats inside the folder and put it somewhere else
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: cp -R /dir/. /destination/
[07:58] <ultm8> i know the cp is the copy command... so i do this cp /home/user/foldername/ /home/user/newfolder/
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: the /. is important on the first one to get it to copy the files in the dir instead of the dir itself.
[07:58] <piro> anyone here using sabnzbd?
[07:58] <ultm8> r i c
[07:58] <ultm8> i missed the /.
[07:58] <waylandbill> dell190: assign a password to root, then enabled root logins to the x-server. You should be able to use sudo and kdesu to not need that though.
[07:59] <ultm8> thx LeeJunFan
[07:59] <ultm8> will tyr that now
[07:59] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: wait a sec
[07:59] <ultm8> 1sec
[07:59] <ultm8> oki doki
[08:00] <waylandbill> cp source/* destination/    <-- that doesn't recurse if that's what you mean by 'only in the folder'
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: you want to make an exact copy with /home/user/foldername to /home/user/newfolder with both newfolder and folder being dirs? That's different.
[08:00] <piro> i start sabnzb by doing ./sabnzbd.py -d -f sabnzbd.ini in its directory how can i have it do that every 6 hours and start up on restart?
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: for that cp -R /home/user/dir /home/user/newdir
[08:00] <piro> tried making a file in Autostart and it doesnt work
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: make sure /home/user/newdir doesn't already exist.
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> ultm8: otherwize you'll end up with /home/user/newdir/newdir
[08:01] <ultm8> oki doki
[08:01] <ultm8> 1 sec
[08:01] <waylandbill> piro: cron and initscript
[08:01] <piro> when i type it in cron it says program not found
[08:01] <piro> and when i take the ./ out it doesn't work
[08:01] <waylandbill> !cron
[08:01] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:01] <ultm8> ur 1st answer is what i was looking for LeeJunFan
[08:01] <ultm8> thx bud it was the /. on end
[08:01] <ultm8> hehehe
[08:02] <ultm8> :) n1ce ta
[08:02] <waylandbill> piro: those are the programs to use, not the commands to execute them. :-)
[08:02] <dell190> how can i enable root logins?
[08:02] <ultm8> nearly there with my joomla server ;)
[08:02] <waylandbill> piro: and actually 'initscript' isn't a program, but what the system uses at various run levels.
[08:03] <waylandbill> dell190: assign a password to root. "sudo passwd"
[08:03] <dell190> yes i have done that
[08:04] <EADG> Afternoon all.
[08:04] <waylandbill> dell190: the answer to graphical logins for root is more involved, but the wiki probably tells.
[08:05] <EADG> How do I copy and paste text in xterm?
[08:05] <waylandbill> EADG: highlight and click middle button IIRC
[08:07] <EADG> waylandbill: hmmm, perhaps xterm isn't the proper term then... in the shell before startx fires up KDE.
[08:11] <waylandbill> EADG: oh. you mean the virtual terminal 1 console. nope. that's different than xterm and I'm not aware off hand. gpm probably has info on it.
[08:12] <EADG> gpm?
[08:14] <waylandbill> !info gpm
[08:14] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB
[08:14] <EADG> :) Thanks waylandbill
[08:15] <Vamp898> !kubuntu-de
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-de - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <Vamp898> #kubuntu-de
[08:15] <heinkel_111> !de
[08:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:15] <Vamp898> thx^
[08:15] <newman> hello can u tell me the shell command to install java 6 and the flash player 9 plugin for mozilla non free?
[08:17] <oem> i just bought an mp3 player manage devices popped up do i select generic player?
[08:17] <oem> anyone in here?
[08:18] <oem> hello?
[08:19] <raven_> hi
[08:19] <newman> hi oem what's the shell command again to install java 6?
[08:19] <oem> I dont know
[08:19] <oem> i just bought an mp3 player manage devices popped up do i select generic player?
[08:21] <raven_> can anyone help me? im trying to use my webcam in kopete with msn. I can see its stream in devices, but when i try to send it nothing happens. im also unable to receive any cam.
[08:21] <waylandbill> oem: unless the device is listed, like apple ipod or something
[08:21] <oem> no it isnt listed
[08:21] <oem> thank you
[08:24] <eric> can someone help me with my grub menu.lst
[08:24] <eric> i cannot get the splashimage to show up
[08:27] <newman> !w32
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <heinkel_111> eric i don't think the kubuntu grub uses splash?
[08:28] <newman> !codecs
[08:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:28] <eric> it does...theres a kubuntu package for it
[08:29] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[08:29] <assasukasse> does anyone know if kde4 would be embedded in kubuntu
[08:30] <oem> what would be a good tool to use to put music on my Mp3-4 player?
[08:31] <TheInfinity> assasukasse: of course
[08:32] <assasukasse> in feisty?
[08:32] <TheInfinity> no
[08:32] <oem> no in edgy
[08:32] <TheInfinity> kde 4 is alpha at the moment
[08:32] <assasukasse> did anyone try the svn? i am curious about the memory request
[08:32] <TheInfinity> it'll take some time until its ready
[08:33] <TheInfinity> its alpha - dont expect anything ;)
[08:33] <raven_> assasukasse, kde4 isnt even beta yet
[08:34] <TheInfinity> its ... like installing windows vista right now - alpha testing is not that interesting ;)
[08:34] <assasukasse> well, until 3 months ago i was using gnome, and it looks nice, but is very memory hog
[08:35] <assasukasse> then i switched to xfce
[08:35] <assasukasse> but was unsatisfied
[08:35] <ultm8> hey folks how do u ssh via kde filemanager?
[08:35] <ultm8> or samba?
[08:35] <assasukasse> now i am on debian with enlightenment
[08:36] <TheInfinity> ultm8: fish:// is your solution
[08:36] <TheInfinity> and KDE / gnome use lots of memory
[08:36] <TheInfinity> of course they do
[08:37] <ultm8> i dont mind that
[08:37] <ultm8> its a localhost server just a testing 1
[08:37] <TheInfinity> no that was for assasukasse ;)
[08:37] <ultm8> r i c
[08:37] <TheInfinity> fish://user@host:22
[08:38] <ultm8> can i do this with kde?
[08:38] <ultm8> i've done it before but cannot remember how i did it
[08:38] <ultm8> :S
[08:38] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: u know that they eat more than winz xp..with minimum services?
[08:38] <TheInfinity> this is for konquerer
[08:38] <ultm8> yeah
[08:38] <TheInfinity> assasukasse: KDE has much more services than windows has ...
[08:39] <newman> hello ultm8 are u able to know the name of flash 9 in adept ?
[08:39] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: so what would u suggest to keep my system extra light and responsive
[08:39] <newman> the plugin for firefox what's it's called non free something?
[08:39] <TheInfinity> xfce
[08:39] <Malph> just go and get the flash 9 tar from adobe.com
[08:39] <ultm8> can't say i do buddy
[08:40] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: xubuntu?
[08:40] <TheInfinity> this is xfce
[08:40] <newman> do u have this adept icon bug to that everytime u try to open it u must click it 2 times?
[08:40] <ultm8> newman: but u could try unofficial ubuntu in google and go there ;)
[08:40] <TheInfinity> if you want high performance take gentoo
[08:40] <TheInfinity> there you have everything compiled just for you
[08:40] <newman> no i can't install in a new user what's the name in adept for it?
[08:41] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: i will take forever to configure it..moreover my laptop battery would last a few seconds :D windows was much more efficient about energy management
[08:41] <TheInfinity> energy management is a problem in linux general, yes
[08:41] <TheInfinity> because most tools by the manufactures are only for windows
[08:41] <Malph> TheInfinity: just beecause the source is compiled specificly for your system doesn't make it faster.  The real power of Gentoo is the use flag in the /etc/make.conf file
[08:42] <TheInfinity> yes but exacly this can make applications faster sometimes ;)
[08:43] <TheInfinity> its a linux for people who want to configure, yes *g*
[08:43] <assasukasse> well i must say that when i installed edgy, it was 30% slower than windows, but it was fine at me, now after i installed packages and stuff, compiz, is even slower. and i started to get tired
[08:44] <assasukasse> moreover i had to compile the drivers for hotkeys and brightness on my laptop, they never worked 100% but they did work.
[08:44] <ultm8> later folks
[08:44] <ultm8> cooking time
[08:44] <assasukasse> and drivers for the smartlink modem
[08:44] <ultm8> thx for ur help guys :)
[08:44] <ultm8> byeeee!!!
[08:44] <TheInfinity> problem 1: server / client concept of kde - this will become better in kde 4
[08:44] <assasukasse> and now what, they change the kernel and the system updates automatically...so i wake up with nothing working..
[08:45] <Malph> yes it is but I got sick of configuring my home system,  I configure enough linux boxes at work i just want something that works aff the bat when I get home This is why I installed kubuntu last night
[08:45] <assasukasse> Malph: i know what u mean
[08:46] <assasukasse> i tried herd 5, and what, nm-applet doesn't let me connect, doesn't let me use static address, wtf..i can't even connect with herd5...
[08:46] <TheInfinity> thats why i stay at kubuntu ;)
[08:46] <TheInfinity> assasukasse: i think you didnt understand the word "alpha"
[08:46] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: kubuntu was looking nice at me, but i got only 512ram
[08:46] <Tm_T> !feisty | assasukasse
[08:46] <ubotu> assasukasse: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:47] <TheInfinity> assasukasse: i have also only 512 MB RAM ... and a slow hard disk
[08:47] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: i've been using ubuntu from hoary, and all the beta or alpha worked perfectly
[08:47] <Tm_T> assasukasse: BTW I've been running Kubuntu with 64 MB ram. ;)
[08:47] <Tm_T> And yes, it was usable.
[08:47] <assasukasse> btw dolphin is already available?
[08:47] <assasukasse> i am VERY sick of konqueror
[08:48] <TheInfinity> assasukasse: no that depends on KDE4 libs
[08:48] <tarnold> hey all
[08:48] <assasukasse> eww
[08:48] <Tm_T> assasukasse: In Feisty atleast it is.
[08:48] <Tm_T> assasukasse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=dolphin&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[08:48] <assasukasse> a week ago i ended up in looking on distrowatch, and found that another distro was fighting with xubuntu, elive and gave it a shot
[08:48] <Tm_T> packages.ubuntu.com <3
[08:49] <tarnold> im trying to get casablanca(and other dvd's to work) and someone at school mentioned vlc which i just got from the command line but idk how to work it and when i try to play the movie with kaffiene it says its encrypted so what do i do...ive already enabled the restricted and multiverse repos
[08:49] <TheInfinity> they ported dolphin to kde3? wow ...
[08:49] <assasukasse> Tm_T: wow
[08:49] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: Well, it's originally done to kde3 world.
[08:49] <Tm_T> IIRC
[08:50] <TheInfinity> i understood that it was a kde4 project. hmm. missunderstood ...
[08:50] <assasukasse> so after i tried i found myself hooked with elive, and installed it...enlightenment is very light, i boot up a complete workstation with 120mb ram..(wm, xchat, firefox, gaim, xmms)
[08:50] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: No, it's first time "in kde" with KDE4
[08:50] <assasukasse> but, is not *buntu
[08:50] <assasukasse> i have to configure myself
[08:50] <matteo> I need help on kpilot + kolab someone know haw it works?
[08:50] <TheInfinity> 120 MB RAM is a nightmare ;)
[08:50] <TheInfinity> in every OS
[08:50] <Tm_T> !dvd | tarnold
[08:51] <ubotu> tarnold: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:51] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: i have 768
[08:51] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: Untrue.
[08:51] <assasukasse> elive uses only 120
[08:51] <Malph> assasukasse: don't see why You can't drop e16 or e17 in as a wm running the rox FM
[08:51] <rowejob>  I got a noob question
[08:51] <rowejob>  how do you search for windows and samba computer in Ubuntu
[08:51] <rowejob>  I have samba installed
[08:51] <assasukasse> Malph: what do u mean
[08:51] <TheInfinity> Tm_T: try to start openoffice with 120 MB RAM - thats what i mean by nightmare ;)
[08:51] <assasukasse> that i could make e-kde?
[08:51] <newman> http://www.channelchooser.com/ who is able to view this and what plugins u nead?
[08:51] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: Well, OO is not OS.
[08:52] <TheInfinity> no but a basic applicaton for an os
[08:52] <Tm_T> Sure, but there's lighter replacements to that IMO.
[08:52] <TheInfinity> you can run winxp with 8mhz and 8 MB RAM if you want, yes ;)
[08:52] <matteo> just 1 information
[08:52] <matteo> please
[08:52] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: I need "office apps" 2-4 times a year or so.
[08:53] <TheInfinity> what do you do with your computer? ;)
[08:53] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: Write and read, also watch and fiddle.
[08:53] <assasukasse> Malph: i prefer thunar, really, rox is somewhat too rough :D
[08:53] <bet0x> Hello all
[08:54] <bet0x> is Feisty ready for test with beryl?
[08:54] <TheInfinity> writing a letter needs OOo ;)  (or latex if you are masochistic)
[08:54] <bet0x> i want run feisty with that :D
[08:54] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: Nah, for letter I need paper and pen, or, nano.
[08:54] <bet0x> nano r0ckz
[08:54] <bet0x> :D
[08:55] <Tm_T> bet0x: Well, If you need to ask that, I don't think you're ready for Feisty.
[08:55] <TheInfinity> authoritys for example will love your letters ;)
[08:55] <bet0x> Tm_T why, not beryl packages on repos? :D
[08:55] <Malph> assasukasse: sorry got pulled away i'm running battery life tests on wifi voip phones.  The beutty of linux in general is that with almost any disribution you can customize it to work with the wm and file managers that you like you are never forced to dial into any configuration.
[08:56] <Tm_T> bet0x: No, Feisty is not ready for random users, it's still unstable.
[08:56] <bet0x> im not a random user :> i just ask about XGL :] 
[08:56] <Tm_T> TheInfinity: If plain text is not fine, they can explain that to me why not. Also, I have never needed to write letter to authorities really.
[08:56] <bet0x> Thanks for answer :D
[08:56] <assasukasse> Malph: i don't completely agree, for example with e17 i've been unable to have a tray area. no way at all to store some of the wine icons..so they just float on my desktop VERY uglily
[08:57] <Tm_T> bet0x: Well, #ubuntu+1 for Feisty questions, but for Beryl, #ubuntu-effects is best bet.
[08:57] <Tm_T> bet0x: But my personal opinion is, if user need ask "is it ready?" then user is not ready.
[08:58] <newman> u know where to get the w32 codecs ?
[08:59] <Tm_T> !mp3
[08:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:59] <newman> !codecs
[08:59] <Malph> assasukasse: I thought the default e17 install had a tray like the OS X dock
[08:59] <newman> !codecs
[08:59] <bipolar> I need the help of a guru. I'm running most of kubuntu inside of coLinux on windows and I need help with kdesu. Is anyone here very familure with how kdesu works?
[08:59] <newman> !codecs
[08:59] <Tm_T> newman: Look latest ubotu line.
[09:00] <Tm_T> And stop fishing.
[09:00] <assasukasse> Malph: yes for minimized windows not for tray icons
[09:00] <mcscruff> lo all, is there a problem with updating with herd 5?
[09:00] <Tm_T> mcscruff: #ubuntu+1
[09:00] <mcscruff> i have it installed but am getting errors when trying to update my system
[09:00] <mcscruff> kk ty
[09:01] <newman> i nead to see this http://www.channelchooser.com/ what plugins does it nead?
[09:02] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: did u try both ubuntu and kubuntu?
[09:02] <TheInfinity> yes
[09:02] <TheInfinity> and xfce and icewm
[09:02] <bipolar> mcscruff: I havn't had a problem upgrading
[09:03] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: and which one did u choose
[09:03] <TheInfinity> kubuntu
[09:03] <TheInfinity> its not an optimal system
[09:03] <TheInfinity> but its from all the best i know atm
[09:04] <TheInfinity> i have several points of critism, but as i says - on every OS ...
[09:04] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: when i tried kde3 it looked poor responsive to me..fair slow
[09:04] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: and sort of bloatware
[09:04] <TheInfinity> problem is the direct reaction time of every linux desktop
[09:04] <piacentini> someone here knows how to add a new XSession type to kdm on kubuntu edgy?
[09:05] <TheInfinity> because you have this server client concept
[09:05] <mcscruff> newman: isnt it quicktime?
[09:05] <piacentini> I tried addind a .desktop file to /usr/share/xsessions, but it was not picked up by kdm after a restart
[09:05] <TheInfinity> its an very integretive desktop enviroment where you have most things together
[09:06] <newman> don't know mcscruff
[09:06] <adam_> hi
[09:06] <smile> hi everybody
[09:06] <newman> i think it might work whit mplayer and kaffeine did u try?
[09:06] <TheInfinity> one of the main problems of windows i think - nothing like a "corporate design". if i have enaught money i'll try mac osx this year ;)
[09:06] <smile> i have a problem in a break package .. i want remove it !!
[09:07] <smile> any help please ??
[09:07] <adam_> can anyone help with sources.list editing?
[09:07] <corey__> hey all
[09:07] <adam_> smile:what manager you using?
[09:08] <assasukasse> TheInfinity: actually is true, the response time is crazily high in linux
[09:08] <smile> adam_: apt and synaptic
[09:08] <corey__> can anyone tell me hot to play MP3 with kubuntu???
[09:08] <assasukasse> and i sadly must say, the programs are not even good like winzoze...
[09:08] <TheInfinity> this will get better with KDE4 and gnome <dont know the version>
[09:08] <chavo> piacentini, try /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/
[09:08] <aseigo> assasukasse: depends on the app
[09:09] <aseigo> assasukasse: some of our apps are unquestionably better. some certainly aren't
[09:09] <aseigo> assasukasse: compare that to 5 years ago and it's pretty obvious we're doing pretty well ;)
[09:09] <smile> sooooooooo ? any help ?? I want remove a broken pack !!
[09:09] <DexterF> hi
[09:10] <adam_> smile: open up synaptic search for the program by clickin search then when you see it (use synaptic) then click on the checkbox and either put mark for removal
[09:10] <DexterF> is a duron 800 enough to decode divx4/5?
[09:10] <adam_> smike:or complete romival
[09:10] <|Cugel|> I forgot if I asked this already -- any date/chance OpenOffice 2.1 will hit the repositories?
[09:10] <adam_> i dnt know how to personally tlk to someone
[09:11] <smile> adam_: it dont work .. it is unistalled but when i install it i see " BERAK (install) " .. so ?
[09:11] <adam_> smile: you downloaded it in synaptic right?
[09:11] <piacentini> chavo: the .desktop files listed in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions do not produce working session types in my kdm menu
[09:11] <piacentini> it is apparently picking up the lonely kde.desktop at /usr/share/xsessions
[09:11] <newman> use kaffeine plugin  to see it http://www.channelchooser.com/
[09:11] <smile> adam_: with aptitude
[09:11] <piacentini> but adding a new one to this directory does not help
[09:12] <ziabice> re all
[09:12] <chavo> piacentini, you named it kde.desktop also?
[09:12] <newman> do we nead mplayer and quicktime to if we got kaffeine?
[09:13] <adam_> smile: its in terminal you need to install the package properly then i think then remove it afterwards, thats what i did with a hp driver i tried to install
[09:13] <piacentini> chavo: no, kde4.desktop. There is no kde.desktop in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions, only in xsessions
[09:13] <chavo> piacentini, I have it in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ and it works fine
[09:13] <piacentini> that is why I thought that this is the directory kdm is looking into for new session types, and it seems to be confirmed by the kde4 wiki
[09:13] <newman> id like to know if we nead mplayer and quick time if we got kaffeine ?
[09:14] <piacentini> chavo: Ok, I will move it there and see. Do you have other types in there as well (xfce, wm2?)
[09:14] <chavo> yes
[09:14] <piacentini> and do these show up in the session types in kdm?
[09:14] <chavo> as well as some others I created
[09:14] <chavo> yes
[09:14] <piacentini> strange, mine only shows kde, default and failsafe
[09:15] <ziabice> hi, I've a simple question. can someone control if the menu entry "Component Chooser" is present in the control panel under KDE components?
[09:15] <adam_> has anyone installed ntfs 3g?
[09:15] <ziabice> I want to change some default apps...
[09:15] <smile> adam_: no way ??
[09:15] <smile> :-(
[09:16] <chavo> piacentini, that's odd, you completely restarted kdm?
[09:16] <piacentini> yes, restarted the machine. Will try again. It is running in a VM
[09:16] <chavo> also make sure the desktop file has the correct information
[09:16] <adam_> smile: what program did you try to dl?
[09:16] <chavo> if the path in exec= is wrong it won't show up
[09:17] <smile> adam_: ubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <smile> adam_: i'm under kubuntu
[09:17] <andrea> bye
[09:18] <smile> adam_: i made mistake .. i installed gnome and not ubuntu completed !
[09:18] <adam_> smile: righto
[09:18] <smile> adam_: ??
[09:18] <adam_> smile: thought you were under kde?
[09:18] <andrea> i'm italian boy
[09:18] <smile> adam_: ya i'm under kde
[09:19] <adam_> smile: just give me a minute ill be able to sort your problem out5
[09:19] <sampan> i just updated the nvidia drivers (via adept updater), is it sufficient to restart X (cntl-shift-backspace) or do i need to do a full reboot to see if they're working right?
[09:20] <adam_> smile:my internet is really playing up with me
[09:20] <smile> adam_: :-) ..thx
[09:20] <adam_> smile: this is a guess but open a terminal and copy this code sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <assasukasse> hi all
[09:21] <smile> adam_: i did .. but i had a dependencies problem !!
[09:22] <smile> adam_:  some needed packag r broken
[09:22] <adam_> smile: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4100
[09:24] <caris_mere> Kpilot syncs everything but my calendar.  Has anybody had problems with Kpilot with Edgy?
[09:25] <smile> adam_: thx .. but i tried that but in vain :-(
[09:26] <smile> adam_: do u think that updating aptitude will solve that ?
[09:26] <Malph> sampan: did you install the updated nv drivers or the nvidia driverws
[09:26] <adam_> smile: yeh you could try that
[09:26] <piacentini> chavo: it works now with a copy of kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[09:27] <piacentini> probably I had something wrong in the file before
[09:27] <adam_> smile: i think its beyond me now
[09:27] <piacentini> not getting any errors, but it was not showing up as well. Tks
[09:27] <sampan> malph  the nvidia ones ... had them installed from the first day i installed edgy.   got an adept update a few days ago for them that i just applied today.  restarted X, saw the logo, just wasn't sure if i needed a full reboot or whether they kick in on a restart of X
[09:27] <Malph> should just be the restart of x
[09:28] <sampan> malph  cool, thanks :)
[09:28] <adam_> smile: when i had my problem adept couldnt update because i had installation problems elsewhere
[09:28] <adam_> smile: but its probs not the same
[09:30] <doom> hello guys :)
[09:32] <Malph> afternoon doom
[09:32] <doom> how's everyone?
[09:33] <doom> does anyone know why kubuntu doesn't shut down properly? other times it will appear an "out of range" message and other times it will just freeze
[09:34] <dell190__> can someone tell me how to play MP3 on kubuntu
[09:34] <adam_> dl amorok
[09:34] <maddog39> isnt amarok pre isntalled?
[09:34] <adam_> should be
[09:34] <maddog39> yea, it is
[09:34] <Malph> open amarok play mp3 when it says it doesn't have the codec would you like to download it click yes
[09:34] <dell190__> amarok is, but it wont play
[09:34] <maddog39> K > Multimedia > Amarok
[09:34] <maddog39> hmm
[09:34] <maddog39> thats wier
[09:34] <maddog39> d
[09:35] <maddog39> is it not playing or does your audio not work
[09:35] <doomnx> maddog were u playing Flyff?
[09:35] <adam_> have you tried kaffiene?
[09:35] <maddog39> no
[09:35] <dell190__> my audio works
[09:35] <maddog39> no clue wat game that is
[09:35] <doomnx> ok just ignore me
[09:35] <maddog39> i play Wolfenstein: ET
[09:35] <doomnx> i mistook u for someone else :)
[09:36] <maddog39> ah
[09:36] <adam_> dell you try your files on kaffiene?
[09:36] <adam_> which should also be pre installed
[09:36] <dell190__> i havent tried that
[09:36] <Malph> dell190__: when you tried amarok did it come up with anotice that you didn't have the right codec?
[09:36] <dell190__> and can i acces MP3 files from my wiondows harddrive
[09:36] <adam_> go for that because it might be a problem with amorok
[09:36] <adam_> yeh
[09:36] <adam_> winamp or media player?
[09:37] <dell190__> Malph: no it didnt give me that option
[09:37] <dell190__> i just ned to access my windows files in linux... how would i do that
[09:37] <adam_> go into storage
[09:37] <adam_> one of the menues at the bottom
[09:37] <adam_> (system menu)
[09:37] <Malph> do you have ntfs or fat32 support
[09:37] <adam_> then probs hda1 or hdb1
[09:38] <dell190__> NTFS
[09:38] <adam_> you can still access ntfs without an ntfs driver
[09:39] <dell190__> when i try to it says that that it is not mounterd
[09:39] <adam_> ah
[09:40] <dell190__> or, how can i mount it
[09:40] <adam_> give me a min
[09:41] <adam_> its something you can do through a terminal
[09:41] <adam_> but im pretty sure kubuntu mounts at start up
[09:43] <adam_> dell: my internet is really screwy
[09:43] <adam_> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365451
[09:43] <adam_> might be something in there for you
[09:43] <dell190__> Ok thankx man
[09:43] <adam_> nps
[09:43] <eMaX_> re
[09:43] <eMaX_> how can I make a "beep" from the command line?
[09:44] <doomnx> does anyone know why kubuntu doesn't shut down properly? sometimes it will appear an "out of range" message and other times it will just freeze
[09:45] <doomnx> can anyone help me with offline driver installation?
[09:46] <spitwise> f*** edgy
[09:47] <fyrmedic> "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"  How should this command be phrased so that it will work?
[09:48] <kblog> I want to put a Gantt-Chart-Tool on my server, just vor a handful people in order to overview the timetable. can anybody recomend me something? it shouldn't be a sucht big thing like egroupware.
[09:49] <SSJ_GZ> fyrmedic: That looks OK to me.  What's the problem?
[09:49] <Ashex> I'm at work and I'm bored. Who needs help?
[09:49] <fyrmedic> It says it can't find it. hold on and I'll paste the error
[09:50] <fyrmedic> SSJ_GZ; Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[09:51] <cacg> hi
[09:51] <s|g> re
[09:51] <SSJ_GZ> Odd.  What is the output of echo `uname -r`
[09:51] <s|g> kickoff avaliable for feisty ?
[09:51] <LL_Hakaisou> question
[09:51] <Malph> dell190__: did you get that mount command yet
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> is it possible for me to install windows XP on this machine w/o messing up linux?
[09:52] <SSJ_GZ> fyrmedic: ^^ You're definitely using the correct back-tick symbol, "`" ... ?
[09:52] <fyrmedic> SSJ_GZ; uname -r
[09:52] <ScarFreewill> is there a way to use 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to upgrade all my debs but one?
[09:52] <Malph> LL_Hakaisou: are you installing on the same hd or are you adding a hd for windows
[09:52] <SSJ_GZ> fyrmedic: Did you copy and paste what I typed, or type it in yourself?
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> i have an ntfs partition set aside
[09:53] <Ashex> SSJ_GZ, proper syntax is "uname -r" without echo
[09:53] <fyrmedic> SSJ_GZ; I typed it in myself
[09:53] <Ashex> echo will just repeat back what you type following that command
[09:53] <SSJ_GZ> fyrmedic: Try copying and pasting it.
[09:53] <Malph> ok more than likely xp will hose your grub install and you will be forced to reinstall grub after windows is installed
[09:54] <fyrmedic> SSJ_GZ; I figured it out.  Thanks
[09:54] <fyrmedic> I was using the wrong tic
[09:54] <SSJ_GZ> fyrmedic: Thought so =)
[09:54] <lupul> hy everyone
[09:54] <epimeth> ahoy mates!
[09:54] <epimeth> erm... maties?
[09:55] <lupul> does anyone here have an ati graphics board?
[09:55] <LL_Hakaisou> well, installing grub is no big deal...
[09:55] <|Cugel|> Thankfully, no.
[09:55] <LL_Hakaisou> is it?
[09:55] <caris_mere> Having problems getting Kpilot to sync the calendar.
[09:55] <lupul> my ati radeon 9550 works like shit on edgy and i would care for some help
[09:55] <Ashex> for future reference, proper way to do the linux headers install is "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[09:55] <epimeth> anybody home?
[09:56] <LL_Hakaisou> calm down lupul
[09:56] <lupul> i am calm
[09:56] <LL_Hakaisou> !ati > lupul
[09:56] <lupul> there's not much there
[09:56] <LL_Hakaisou> there ubotu should have sent you a message with a good FAQ
[09:57] <lupul> it did
[09:57] <Malph> there is a method of using ntloader to load linux by copying the first 512k of your boot partition to a file that you place on your ntfs partition.  I havn't installed grub manually from ubuntu so I'm no sure keep a kubuntu live cd around so you can reinstall grub after your done with xp also it will allow you to find some grub installation instructions
[09:57] <lupul> but i needed someone who could tell me exactly what to do
[09:57] <LL_Hakaisou> that FAQ will tell you EXACTLY how to install drivers
[09:57] <LL_Hakaisou> down to the letter
[09:58] <lupul> hope so
[09:58] <lupul> thanks
[09:58] <tarnold> ok i got it to work
[09:58] <tarnold> the dvd's now play in kaffiene
[09:59] <tarnold> anyone know if there might be drivers for an internal webcam on an HP laptop?
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> i wonder if there is a way to install windows without installing ntloader
[10:00] <mcscruff> why not install windows then use live cd to install grub
[10:00] <mcscruff> i do :)
[10:00] <tarnold> clerks is a good movie
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> how would i do that?
[10:00] <newman> what's the skip redunant entryies for in firestarter?
[10:01] <Ashex> install windows and then grub install > hd0,0
[10:01] <mcscruff> it is in the wiki :)
[10:01] <Malph> tarnold: I would suggest googling your laptops model number to find out what chip your webcam uses
[10:02] <bdmurray> Does anybody know what I need to get mp3 support in Amarok?
[10:02] <mcscruff> install the codec
[10:02] <LL_Hakaisou> try sudo apt-get install mp3
[10:02] <bdmurray> I can play mp3s with xmms.
[10:03] <NixHex> bdmurray: you need the libxine-extracodecs package
[10:06] <ddwagnz> any idea to change permissions on a NTFS Mount? (i've been trying but cant change permissions!!!)
[10:06] <spitwise> !mp3
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <Ashex> !mp3 bdmurray
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 bdmurray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <mcscruff> !windows
[10:06] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:06] <Ashex> eh, spitwise got to it :p
[10:06] <tarnold> malph: HP dv9000
[10:06] <spitwise> ;)
[10:06] <Vamp898> !de
[10:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:06] <Ashex> !ntfs > ddwagnz
[10:06] <spitwise> i just had to do a clean install due to the effed up edgy upgrade
[10:06] <tarnold> malph: shoul i google that with something about a webcam?
[10:07] <BluesKaj> !amarok-mp3
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <spitwise> !pipe | Ashex
[10:07] <BluesKaj> !amarok
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[10:07] <Ashex> heh > works too
[10:07] <spitwise> heheh
[10:07] <Ashex> it just messages them instead of displaying in channel
[10:07] <spitwise> ah
[10:07] <LjL> which is often a better idea
[10:08] <Ashex> yeah, i generally avoid upgrading, past two times I did upgrades it miffed things up a bit
[10:08] <felipeee> i configured mt eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:08] <spitwise> that kind of blows about ubuntu
[10:08] <Ashex> Yeah, it's kinda annoying
[10:08] <Ashex> last time I upgraded, everything worked fine
[10:08] <Ashex> except for the random reboot due to a bad module
[10:08] <spitwise> ew
[10:09] <spitwise> rebooting and clean installs should not be solutions
[10:09] <felipeee> i configured mt eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:09] <Ashex> heh
[10:09] <vil> hello
[10:09] <Ashex> they aren't really clean installs
[10:10] <Ashex> I have my /home directory on a seperate disk
[10:10] <spitwise> nice
[10:10] <Ashex> so when i reinstall, everything is at it was
[10:10] <felipeee> i configured my eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:10] <vil> could anyone help me with dual head configuration?
[10:10] <Ashex> plus i have a cron tab that does dpkg --get-selections > apt.list
[10:10] <doomnx> does anyone know why kubuntu doesn't shut down properly? sometimes it will appear an "out of range" message and other times it will just freeze
[10:10] <Ashex> so when i'm done reinstalling i just run dpkg --set-selections apt.list
[10:10] <Ashex> or something along those lines
[10:10] <ddwagnz> !ntfspermissionchange > ddwagnz
[10:11] <Ashex> !ntfs3g | ddwagnz
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <ddwagnz> <_<
[10:11] <Ashex> ddwagnz, take a look into ntfs3g
[10:11] <Ashex> should be in repos
[10:11] <vil> <<
[10:11] <ddwagnz> Ashex, link me
[10:11] <felipeee> i configured my eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:12] <LL_Hakaisou> you know, the more i use apt-get, the more i love it
[10:12] <Ashex> http://www.google.com/search?q=ntfs-3g
[10:12] <gregd_> can I make konqueror open a new tab in my home directory?
[10:13] <Malph> tarnold: I would google webcam hp pavilion 2175us <---substitute your model number here
[10:13] <felipeee> i configured my eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:14] <LL_Hakaisou> !ntfs-3g
[10:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:15] <ijacek> !cz
[10:15] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:16] <ijacek> hi people :)
[10:16] <Vamp898> !de
[10:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:16] <felipeee> i configured my eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:16] <bdmurray> NixHex: thanks
[10:17] <boubou> hello
[10:18] <tjl30> is there any other work environments other than KDE and GNOME for ubuntu 6.06
[10:18] <tjl30> ?
[10:19] <SSJ_GZ> tjl30: XFCE?
[10:19] <tjl30> what is XFCE?
[10:19] <spitwise> a tinier window manager
[10:19] <spitwise> see xubuntu
[10:20] <epimeth> ahoy maties!  hopefully I'll actually be online this time :-)
[10:20] <tjl30> so do I go into the terminal and type sudo app-get xubuntu?
[10:20] <felipeee> i configured my eth0 to be static and gave to it all information needed, the connection is RUNNING but i cant access any host
[10:20] <epimeth> anybody know why amorak isn't playing my audio cds?
[10:21] <SSJ_GZ> tjl30: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <ijacek> tjl30 sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[10:21] <ijacek> huh
[10:22] <epimeth> and how / if I can change the encoding of info I retrieve from CDDB in either K3B or KAudioCreator?
[10:22] <doomnx> goodnight
[10:22] <ijacek> epimeth sudo apt-get install xmms ;-)
[10:23] <vil> hello, could anyone help me with a dual head configuration?
[10:23] <tarnold> malph thanks
[10:24] <epimeth> ijacek: I've already got xmms... I'm liking Amarok!
[10:24] <bkrow> is there any irc channel dedicated to feisty alpha testing?
[10:24] <mcscruff> #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <epimeth> ijacek: actually... xmms isn't even showing that the cd contains any media files!
[10:25] <gregd_> how would one restore kde view profiles? the kubuntu ones are rather crippled
[10:25] <peterman> !fatx
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fatx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <peterman> !fat
[10:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:26] <peterman> can i read&writa fatx-usbsticks with linux?
[10:27] <tarnold> malph: i can find anything on it...any ideas?
[10:27] <Ashex> peterman, yes
[10:27] <Malph> tjl30: that and you can alwayswhat is the model number of the laptop
[10:27] <timster> !wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:28] <tjl30> ?
[10:28] <peterman> hm, and how? i'v mounted an usb stick with 32mb, and i wish to format it in fatx. sorry, im a linux-noob. the device is /dev/sdb1
[10:28] <spitwise> wheres the sys prefs again for kde?
[10:29] <peterman> if there is a simple command or something, please tell me :D
[10:29] <_Daisuke_Ido_> peterman: fatx?
[10:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> fat16, fat32?
[10:30] <peterman> no, fatx. its the format from xbox-memorysticks
[10:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> hmm
[10:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> never used it
[10:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> there any documentation on it?
[10:30] <gregd_> how would one restore kde view profiles? the kubuntu ones are rather crippled
[10:31] <peterman> i've dloaded a patched (?) kernel from sourceforge, its a *.gz file. how to install it?
[10:31] <peterman> no, there isn't any documentation
[10:31] <bkrow> does anyone know if 1) tap-to-click as default, with low tap threshold, on synaptics touchpad is intended; 2) how to disable it without editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf; 3) where can I read about it?
[10:32] <Malph> tarnold: what is the model of the laptop
[10:32] <LjL> !ksynaptics | bkrow
[10:32] <ubotu> bkrow: ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[10:32] <LjL> or "apt-cache search synaptics" for alternatives
[10:32] <bkrow> wow
[10:32] <tarnold> malph: an HP dv9000
[10:33] <tarnold> wiht the webcam built in
[10:33] <Ashex> peterman tar zxvf foo.gz
[10:33] <Ashex> I think
[10:33] <Malph> tjl30: sorry was in the middle of aq comment about windows managers in ubuntu and was pulled away for a failed raid disk
[10:33] <chavo> gregd_, http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[10:33] <gregd_> chavo: thanks for the link
[10:34] <Farbi> is there a way to force a command to run when I plug in my mp3 player?  IE: instead of running rmmod ehci_hcd (i think) have it run when I plug it in but not when anything else is plugged in?
[10:34] <Malph> tarnold: yes
[10:34] <alberto> cia
[10:36] <alberto> c'e nessuno??
[10:36] <Malph> tarnold: HP Pavilion Webcam USB\VID_0C45&PID_62C0&MI_00\6&6893C9F&0&0000
[10:36] <LjL> !it | alberto
[10:36] <ubotu> alberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:37] <bkrow> LjL: it complains about lack of SHMConfig option in kubuntu feisty, I wonder if I should report it as a bug or suck it and add the missing line?
[10:37] <bkrow> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <LjL> bkrow: no idea
[10:38] <tarnold> malph: is that the webcam driver- what do i have to do?
[10:39] <Malph> tarnold: hold on I'm doing some research.  that is the hardware information.  now we just look to see if anyone else has gotten this working
[10:39] <tarnold> can amarok work with ipods?
[10:39] <Malph> yes
[10:39] <tarnold> sure thing malph im still new at this, just happy i got my wireless working in 2 days compared to a week the first time i installed(wanted bigger partitions so i reinstalled)
[10:40] <Malph> tarnold: the more you do something the faster it can get done
[10:41] <K`zan> Can someone tell me how to get the dialog for when you plug in, say, a camera that asks you what to do with it?  I selected "Do Nothing" and wish I hadn't now :-(.  TIA!
[10:41] <tarnold> yeah
[10:42] <tom> hey guys
[10:42] <tom> anyone have the link to video helps in ubuntu?
[10:42] <Malph> tarnold: okhere is a nudge in the right direction I have to much on my plate at this moment to lay it all out    http://gkall.hobby.nl/sn9c10x.html
[10:43] <tom> !video
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:43] <Shyne> im trying to repair my filesystem using a live cd, but i cant find the device to run fsck on - can anyone help ?
[10:43] <Malph> tarnold: and this (sorry about the broken post  http://hardware.mcse.ms/printthread.php?threadid=309407
[10:44] <tarnold> ok perhaps if you have time you can help?
[10:44] <tarnold> I appericiate the nudge
[10:44] <Malph> if I have time later
[10:45] <adam_> hi, i started to edit my sources list to add a new package db and i closed the terminal and now i cant get back to the begining - seems a n00by way to describe it ut can anyone help?
[10:48] <tom> !video drivers
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <_Daisuke_Ido_> !nvidia | tom
[10:48] <ubotu> tom: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <scotty> Alright, so I started up Kopete for the first time on this install, right? I add my two AIM accounts. It lists the groups I've made throughout the years in it, but it has none of my contacts. When I added one, it showed up, but the others are still lost. What should I do to fix it?
[10:48] <tom> sweet thats it
[10:48] <tom> thanks
[10:48] <_Daisuke_Ido_> np
[10:49] <Tm_T> scotty: IIRC it _should_ retrieve contact list from server, assuming there is one.
[10:49] <frenchtomytoast> I'm having a real hard time setting up keys in openSSH.
[10:49] <tarnold> ok, malph has given me something to work with, could one of you guys with more knowledge then me make out what those pages are saying? Its all greek to me :)
[10:49] <scotty> Tm_T: See, it has in all my past installs. But recently my brother got a hold of my laptop and deleted some files, so I had to reinstall.
[10:49] <K`zan> what is the kde sudo command please?
[10:49] <Tm_T> frenchtomytoast: Try searching in help.ubuntu.com/community/ IIRC there is howto
[10:50] <frenchtomytoast> Tm_T: I found one tutorial, but couldn't follow it. I'll go check that one. Thanks.
[10:50] <Tm_T> scotty: Err, how you need to reinstall, unless you give superpowers to your brother...
[10:51] <Tm_T> scotty: Anyway, can't help you with that issue, I dont use AIM myself.
[10:53] <adam_> hi, i tried to edit my source list to add a resporitory and i closed the termminal accedentally and when i start from the beginin and type /etc/apt/.sources.list an error message comes up
[10:53] <adam_> what do i do?
[10:53] <Ashex> scotty, you can delete the kopete config files in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[10:53] <Ashex> or somewhere around there
[10:53] <Ashex> adam_, what's the error message
[10:53] <adam_> Another program may be editing the same file.
[10:53] <adam_>     If this is the case, be careful not to end up with two
[10:53] <adam_>     different instances of the same file when making changes.
[10:53] <adam_>     Quit, or continue with caution.
[10:53] <adam_> and then a second one
[10:54] <Ashex> the instance of the editor is still running
[10:54] <Ashex> so, do a ps x | grep foo
[10:54] <Ashex> for foo use whatever editor you used
[10:54] <Ashex> and then kill the process
[10:54] <adam_> right
[10:55] <adam_> ive not come across ps x | grep foo
[10:55] <tom> hey cant I type in terminal?
[10:56] <tom> I can copy and paste, but not type
[10:58] <adam_> tom: try clearing the terminal and trying
[10:58] <tom> k
[10:59] <larisa> how do I setup my network configuration in Kubuntu?
[10:59] <larisa> I'm using Edgy, fully updated
[10:59] <adam_> tom:reset and clear terminal would be better
[10:59] <larisa> or.. how do I save my network settings.. i can do it from the command line, but they're lost on restart
[10:59] <BluesKaj> LAN or internet or both ? larisa
[11:00] <tom> I can type only if I am not entering my password
[11:00] <larisa> well. both i guess, eth0
[11:00] <larisa> my ip isn't being saved/set
[11:00] <adam_> tom: so you cant enter your password?
[11:00] <tom> no
[11:00] <tom> but I can sudo fine until the PW line
[11:00] <BluesKaj> networked pc's to router ?
[11:00] <frenchtomytoast> For openSSH, I set up DSA keys and copied the public key to my server in my home directory in .ssh/authorized_keys but when i try to ssh into it, it says that it's not recognized.
[11:01] <larisa> do I use network manager still?  or is there a KDE way of doing it?
[11:01] <adam_> give me a min tom
[11:01] <|Cugel|> larisa: knetworkmanager?
[11:01] <tom> no prob adam_
[11:02] <adam_> tom: type it in even if its not showing up and hit return
[11:02] <adam_> see what happens
[11:03] <BluesKaj> all linux network or a mixed/windows network /
[11:03] <tom> I did
[11:03] <tom> hey now it worked
[11:03] <adam_> tom: nothing?
[11:03] <adam_> tom: there ya go
[11:03] <adam_> tom: its for security reasons
[11:03] <tom> what made it work this time?
[11:03] <tom> I tried it 3 times
[11:03] <tom> weird
[11:03] <adam_> tom: im just good ;)
[11:04] <tom> lol, yeah ok
[11:04] <adam_> lol
[11:04] <tom> kodos to you bro
[11:04] <tom> I'll give it to ya
[11:04] <tom> :o
[11:04] <tom> )
[11:04] <adam_> kodos?
[11:04] <pirothezero> how do i set a python program to run in cron with parameters and switches? I made a bin/bash that would do it and +x it but kcron won't save it for some reason
[11:04] <larisa> test
[11:04] <BluesKaj> prolly know samba works on networks with both linux and windows pcs, but I'll say it anyway , larisa :)
[11:05] <tom> kudos
[11:05] <tom> my bad
[11:06] <larisa> well. here's another Q...
[11:06] <larisa> when I go to my System Settings in KDE, most of the global/admin settings are grayed out.. how do I run that as an Admin .. or how do I enter "Admin" mode
[11:07] <|Cugel|> There's a button at the bottom.
[11:07] <|Cugel|> Click that!
[11:07] <larisa> doh.. nm
[11:07] <larisa> window wasn't sized right
[11:07] <|Cugel|> well, I have to admit that I have problems with window sizes sometimes.
[11:08] <adam_> np tom
[11:08] <pirothezero> same, not sure why
[11:08] <adam_> nd btw i had to research kudo
[11:08] <adam_> kudos*
[11:09] <|Cugel|> Well, I think it's a bug in KDE.
[11:10] <DexterF> there's a multimedia repos for kde which has all sorts of players, codecs and whatnot, but I can't remeber the name. hints?
[11:11] <larisa> okay.. what about a graphical package management tool.. is there a recommended one?  apt-get from the console gets old. and I don't want to introduce to a newbie
[11:11] <larisa> (not that i'm not that big of an expert myself)
[11:12] <|Cugel|> larisa: adept?
[11:12] <DexterF> larisa: adept has grown usable
[11:12] <|Cugel|> Adept has a really _wrong_ interface, but it does the job and you only have to press a few buttons.
[11:13] <larisa> not found.. do i need multiverse?
[11:13] <DexterF> the "only few buttons" part is makes it appear _right_ to me. what do you think is wrong?
[11:13] <DexterF> larisa: not found? what, adept?
[11:14] <larisa> yeah.. apparently
[11:14] <|Cugel|> dexter: my problem with many apps is the general interface (buttons, positions, options etc.) -- but let's not go into that. Adept is an excellent tool.
[11:14] <larisa> oh nm..
[11:14] <larisa> already install
[11:14] <DexterF> uh. it's in the default install of ubuntu 6.06 and later
[11:14] <tom> whats wrong with this command...
[11:14] <|Cugel|> larisa: type 'adept'?
[11:14] <tom> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <DexterF> |Cugel|: was only curious, I'm too old to start flame wars ;)
[11:15] <tom> I cant get it to work
[11:15] <larisa> I found it..   I'm trying to setup nfs/nis now.. and I should be set...
[11:15] <tom> your not done adam_
[11:15] <|Cugel|> dexter: we're both too old, probably ;-)
[11:16] <adam_> tom: what?
[11:16] <tom> whats wrong with this command...
[11:16] <tom> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <tom> I cant get it to work
[11:16] <scotty> Question: What's the difference between firefox and mozilla firefox in adept? Are there advantages to one or the other?
[11:17] <|Cugel|> tom: you have gedit and not kate? (this _is_ #kubuntu)
[11:17] <tom> same program bro
[11:17] <adam_> ok
[11:17] <tom> no I ahve kubuntu
[11:18] <|Cugel|> tom: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf   -- try it.
[11:18] <DexterF> what happened to automatix?
[11:18] <Tm_T> !automatix
[11:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:19] <tom> thanks
[11:19] <BluesKaj> I tried it and the above description is correct
[11:19] <Tm_T> tom: You should use kdesu for GUI, if I'm not totally misguided.
[11:20] <tarnold> hey i installed skype from teh console and idk how to accept the EULA
[11:21] <tom> yeah I use kde
[11:21] <DexterF> Tm_T: got any options? in other words, got a fresh 6.06 and now want to make it top notch multimedia with wmv9, divx, xvid latest kaffeine etc etc
[11:21] <Tm_T> DexterF: Well, IMO you should do as !mp3 tells :)
[11:21] <Tm_T> !mp3 > DexterF
[11:22] <Tm_T> It's not too hard to do without "wondertools".
[11:24] <tom> ok I'm stuck
[11:24] <tom> adam_: hey dude I have an ati card and I'm little over half way
[11:24] <|Cugel|> tom: persevere!
[11:24] <tom> lol
[11:25] <tom> I will
[11:25] <tom> my will is stronger!
[11:25] <|Cugel|> It's about time you paste your xorg.conf.   But have you read the tutorials?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> binary driver install , tom ?
[11:25] <tom> yes
[11:25] <tom> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <tom> thats was my last command
[11:25] <tarnold> can someone tell me how to accept the EULA in the console for skype?
[11:26] <|Cugel|> You want to be careful with xorg.conf   -- it's like a snake that just bites you when it feels like doing so.
[11:26] <DexterF> Tm_T: ok this said twice or so "use free formats" and I see where this is going. I'm saying it politely: I don't care about whether a format is free or not - there's certain content I only get as wmv, real or bob knows what else and my life expectation is about average so far too little to wait for the entire planet to be enlightened and say "oooh! I get it now! open standards are good!". been doing that for 6 or 7 years, no thanks, I
[11:26] <DexterF> really really want wmv codecs and I totally agree with... uh.. this one weird guy who is somehow like Stallman but nicer and I can't remember his name
[11:26] <BluesKaj> tom, how about checking the procedure on this site ...it might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[11:26] <tom> I have kate open, but what ubuntu wants me to do in certain sections, the sections are not there
[11:27] <Tm_T> DexterF: Oh man, there's two links that points you what to do to install those codecs, READ it.
[11:27] <tom> I guess it cause I'm not in Gnome
[11:27] <Tm_T> DexterF: OR again I did something wrong.
[11:27] <Tm_T> !mp3
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <Tm_T> DexterF: It's that, right?
[11:27] <tarnold> never mind
[11:27] <tarnold> i got it
[11:27] <DexterF> Tm_T: I *am* reading them, I only wanted to be clear about what I think about "please help propagate free thisandthat"
[11:28] <DexterF> I'm linux user for 8 years now, i know how to follow links ;)
[11:28] <|Cugel|> dexter: you're slowly learning eh?
[11:28] <tom> the steps in ubuntu help pages are nuts
[11:28] <Tm_T> |Cugel|: stop.
[11:28] <tom> nvidia has been easier so
[11:28] <Tm_T> DexterF: Well, it's not me to whine about those messages.
[11:29] <tarnold> tom: i agree, not teh most freindly for noobs
[11:29] <tom> any ideas?
[11:29] <tom> \very true
[11:29] <tarnold> which is why im on here all the time asking around
[11:29] <Tm_T> DexterF: And think they're meant to "newbies".
[11:29] <DexterF> |Cugel|: well, actually, I obviously needed about 6 years to learn that this open source hippie cult won't stand against capitalism, so, yeah
[11:29] <tarnold> ah the irony
[11:31] <BluesKaj> hippies cult eh ...who you callin' a hippie ...I'm a geezer and no hippie cult tells me what to ...unless i need info :)
[11:31] <Tm_T> DexterF: And I don't see big difference between "opensource" and "capitalism" because you can have them both.
[11:31] <|Cugel|> It's only a small part of Ubuntu that's a little hard to configure. This will change in the future.
[11:32] <Tm_T> But this goes offtopic so I quit.
[11:32] <DexterF> heck yes if you saw how to use support contracts for your enterprise distro crammed with closed src extras you won't get with "community" distros, see suse for pointers.
[11:32] <|Cugel|> Yes, back to answering questions.
[11:33] <DexterF> k
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Novell  enterprise , mandriva
[11:33] <DexterF> hey we just agreed to stop it ;)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> i'm slow to react :)
[11:34] <Tm_T> Oh well, kids remember to behave and have fun, this cranky old fart goes to have some sleep. ->
[11:34] <BluesKaj> c ya Tm_T
[11:34] <DexterF> bye
[11:35] <tom> restarting
[11:36] <DexterF> ah. Eric Raymond.
[11:37] <frenchtomytoast> How do I give permission to all users to use USB drives?
[11:46] <bungler> hello
[11:47] <tarnold> hey how does ktorrent work?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent
[11:50] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[11:51] <BluesKaj> tarnold, it's basically the same as other torrent clints ...only better :)
[11:51] <BluesKaj> clients
[11:55] <DexterF> tarnold: install, run, use search, pick a torrent, sit back and wait for it to finish. :)
[11:55] <DexterF> when I download 6.06 now, do I get it as it was released or with updates it got since then already applied?
[11:56] <DexterF> !iso
[11:56] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:56] <Saga-Linux> Hey - I'm having sound problems on kubuntu. I've heard it play sounds when logging on, but it's not playing music or game sounds properly.
[11:58] <Saga-Linux> I say properly, it's not playing them at all.
[11:58] <esnake1_> hola
[11:59] <tarnold> well i think its installed by defualt
[11:59] <Saga-Linux> I
[11:59] <Saga-Linux> I'm thinking it might need a better driver, or a driver tweak.
[12:00] <raven3x7> i need help with a networking problem. im trying to open a certain port range but i cant get it to work. i've used both a direct iptables command and firestarter, but nmapfe still tells me the port is closed. i tried restarting iptables but that didnt work either
[12:02] <rogue> mmm
[12:02] <Moltov> mmm there we go
[12:03] <Moltov> ^.^ So... Anyone wana help a poor nix noob soul fiddle with a usb card
[12:04] <KanRiNiN> Hello.  I'm having trouble compiling a kernel.  My error is here http://pastebin.com/895579 and I'm using instructions here http://blog.linuxmonitor.net/2007/03/ultimate-ubuntu-performance-tweaking.html
[12:04] <KanRiNiN> I'd appreciate any help figuring out what I'm doing wrong
[12:04] <eagles0513875> i hate ati
[12:04] <eagles0513875> anyone else hate ati as well
[12:05] <adam_> i have nothing against ati
[12:05] <adam_> theyve done no wrong to me
[12:05] <dsmith>  we hates them
[12:05] <eagles0513875> wait till u cant ur open gl to work then u will adam
[12:05] <Moltov> I think ati recently was a bunch of utter idiots, but i like their chipsets and gfx cards for notebooks.
[12:05] <adam_> lol
[12:05] <dsmith> filthery lil' ATI GPUs
[12:06] <eagles0513875> ur nuts moltov lol i can get the opengl to work on mine
[12:06] <adam_> the only thing im involved with ati stuff is back on windows on a couple of games
[12:06] <dsmith> ATI so much sux's on my dell 'puter
[12:06] <Moltov> Dude, its a dell.
[12:06] <adam_> they're pretty addicting games
[12:06] <dsmith> :P
[12:06] <eagles0513875> im trying to get my open gl to work so that i can play wow using wine
[12:06] <Moltov> Seriously, thats your step 1 problem dsmith...
[12:06] <adam_> cant buy dell in the shops! no shop will aceept the stock
[12:06] <scotty> Alright, I'm having major problems with Kopete. First of all, it didn't import my AIM contacts from their server. I tried deleting everything in .kde/share/apps/kopete and restarting, but no luck. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Kopete. Now it won't show me when my MSN contacts are online.
[12:07] <eagles0513875> but since i dont have open gl or what ati calls it fglrx  i cant play any games using wine
[12:07] <dsmith> bah.... upgrade the gpu with a nvidia and its a Dell from hell
[12:07] <adam_> aurora ftw!
[12:07] <Moltov> Scotty:Do you realy need kopete? I mean... cant you just use gaim like the rest of us?
[12:07] <eagles0513875> ati in my compaq gets the job done but there r some things that this laptop just pisses me off like no other
[12:07] <dsmith> GAIM Is soooo easy
[12:07] <adam_> it is
[12:07] <eagles0513875> open gl being one and my other ram slot being under the keyboard
[12:07] <scotty> Moltov: I prefer Kopete.
[12:08] <eagles0513875> i prefer gaim
[12:08] <scotty> I could use Gaim, but I like Kopete quite a bit better.
[12:08] <adam_> i prefere kpete but gaim is easier to use
[12:08] <Moltov> Scotty: Kk, just making sure... some people dont know gaim exists...
[12:08] <eagles0513875> anyideas as how to get my open gl to work
[12:08] <tarnold> i like gaim
[12:08] <scotty> Moltov: I use Gaim when I'm forced to used Windows.
[12:08] <eagles0513875> if nobody has any ideas im goign to go bitch at compaq or maybe amd
[12:08] <adam_> hacker environment rox on kopete
[12:08] <tarnold> i use MSN and gaim for aim only, on linux i use GAIM for both
[12:09] <Moltov> Scotty: ugh, gaim is a terror in windows... imo
[12:09] <tarnold> but it still beats the defualt AIM client
[12:09] <Saga-Linux> Hey - I'm having sound problems on kubuntu. I've heard it play sounds when logging on, but it's not playing music or game sounds.
[12:09] <scotty> Moltov: Agreed.
[12:09] <eagles0513875> check the mixer saga somethign is probably muted
[12:09] <Moltov> Thats what trillian is for... gaim causes my windows computer to lose inet connection, alot
[12:09] <Saga-Linux> Checked that
[12:10] <eagles0513875> is gaim even designed for windows
[12:10] <Moltov> No
[12:10] <Moltov> just was easily ported.
[12:10] <scotty> Moltov: My XP dual boot on this laptop has Trillian installed. I use Gaim for my family computer, as I'm too lazy to install Trillian when I use that computer once a month :P
[12:10] <scotty> But that's beside the point.
[12:10] <Moltov> ^.^
[12:10] <scotty> I just wish I could fix Kopete.
[12:10] <Moltov> Atleast you agree.
[12:10] <Moltov> Heh
[12:11] <Moltov> I find it hard to belive that gaim on windows and nix are the same program... i confirmed it through a checksum of vital files... but...
[12:11] <Moltov> Yea...
[12:12] <Moltov> See if you can stand REAL gaim... if not... ill fish about a bit...
[12:12] <Saga-Linux> The mixer has everything unmuted and turned up
[12:13] <eagles0513875> anything msft suxs
[12:13] <eagles0513875> isnt there amsn
[12:14] <adam_> yip
[12:14] <adam_> but that sux