[12:16] hm... should the original maintainer mangling be done for SRU's as well? [12:17] that's what she said. === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] Mithrandir: Is there any possibility to get in touch with the ubuntu bluetooth team by irc? [12:24] i think there is no casper expert ? [12:24] Sp4rKy: there certainly is a casper god here :) [12:24] ;) [12:25] ok, so [12:25] in the 10adduser script, i add this line [12:25] no no, not me [12:26] I meant c-j-w-a-t-s-o-n :) [12:26] but I'm very flattered :D [12:26] :D [12:26] printf "foobar" >> "/root/home/$USERNAME/file" [12:26] I'm just an annoying prick here who whines about bugs :) [12:26] and this command doesn't produce any result [12:27] any idea ? [12:27] I wouldn't know [12:27] sorry [12:27] I haven't messed with that aspect of ubuntu (casper) at all [12:27] k [12:27] cjwatson is sleeping ? [12:29] so, i'll come back tomorrow [12:29] just busy in general :) === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:29] don't worry, he hasn't talked to me in weeks either :) [12:30] Does anyone here feel like fixing the PHP package, since it's both broken and CVE-2007-0906 isn't actually resolved? [12:31] jdong_: pl [12:31] ok* === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-f09c77a5c7b083f1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === illovae is now known as illovae_ === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-078-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === illovae_ is now known as illovae === angasule [n=angasule@190.49.216.154] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-devel === khermans__ [i=administ@nat/cisco/x-cee0b0f9f2e532e8] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-6dd194d2c95c25b7] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] could someone listen to impl? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@202.61.173.33] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] I mean, you guys messed up not only your own PHP packages, but also debian's === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] Wombert, hm? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:12] impl has the details [01:12] you forgot a changeset when porting back a fix [01:12] or, rather, you ported a fix for an issue that wasn't there [01:12] now stream_get_wrappers() returns a list of stream wrappers, but with the last character missing [01:13] affects all php versions [01:13] and sends someone crying for help to our channel or mailing list every five minutes [01:14] Wombert, is there a bug open on this issue? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] keescook: any idea about the php security upload Wombert is talking? [01:16] http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-424-1 [01:17] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.5/changelog [01:17] Wombert, impl: thanks for the heads up, I'll take a look at it. [01:17] great, thanks keescook [01:18] keescook: http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/php-src/main/streams/streams.c?r1=1.82.2.6.2.9&r2=1.82.2.6.2.10&pathrev=php_5_2_1 [01:18] That's the missing changeset [01:18] I believe, anyway. [01:19] impl: and I can test for the breakage/fix just by looking at stream_get_wrappers()'s output? [01:19] Yep [01:19] okay, cool. Thanks! [01:19] In a broken state, every item in the array will be truncated [01:20] ahha, yup, found a bug on it, I'll track it here: [01:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/87481 [01:20] Malone bug 87481 in php5 "stream_get_wrappers broken in php5 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:21] Good good === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:29] impl, Wombert: feel free to email security@ubuntu.com if you see these kinds of things in the future. or say "regression" on this IRC channel -- i'll get pinged. :) [01:29] REGRESSION! [01:29] :) [01:29] hehehe [01:29] biiig ping [01:29] did you fix it? [01:29] REGRESSION [01:29] xD [01:29] I'll keep saying that :D === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] Wombert: Don't be an arse now :P === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] howdy somerville32_ [02:14] you around? [02:16] keescook: any opinion on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=413269 ? [02:16] Debian bug 413269 in wordpress "wordpress: Should not ship with Etch" [Serious,Open] [02:17] it's a pile of shit [02:17] throw it out [02:17] :p [02:17] geser: I use wordpress, and I think they're responsive, so I personally don't think it should be dropped, but it's not my call. [02:19] thanks for your opinion === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === noahslater [n=nslater@host86-140-19-144.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] Does anyone here know anything about bash completion? [02:21] we cannot drop wordpress from an already released distribution easily... === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] sistpoty: but it can be done for feisty if someone (who exactly? MC?) decides it [02:24] geser: sure [02:24] Why would you drop wordpress? === BenC [n=bcollins@12.145.6.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] noahslater: a history of security issues === Kronuz_ [n=kronuz@189.168.23.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] hello [02:25] HELP!! [02:25] :P [02:25] Kronuz_: please see the topic :P [02:26] my Ubuntu box froze and I want to trace where the problem is [02:26] geser: I don't see the point; they're responsive to fixes, so I don't see how wordpress is different from any other application with a lot of holes. we don't drop firefox or php5. :) [02:26] Really... that surprises me that there would be enought to justify that decision. Am I assuming you are dropping it from default or completely from the repos? [02:26] so I figured this has to do with the development [02:26] keescook, +1 [02:26] and as I see it, the Debian debate is about dropping it from Etch, not sid. [02:27] but I could be wrong, I've sort of been covering my ears. :) [02:28] is it a known bug? 'cause I'm sure it's a bug, I found someone else this morning with the same problem. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy and in X everything froze, the only thing I can do is the mouse pointer (not even the keyboard is responding as to switch the console) [02:28] still, the music was playing and is still playing okay [02:28] and I can connect via ssh [02:28] Kronuz_: Sadly, it's pretty much impossible to diagnose from that [02:28] One of your applications hung your X server. [02:28] but I have connection (ssh) [02:28] You need to figure out which one. [02:28] Yes, expected. [02:29] and it's frozen right now [02:29] Kronuz_: Ok. Attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg to a bug report on launchpad.net, please? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [02:29] Issue /etc/init.d/gdm restart to fix the problem. [02:29] ok [02:29] keescook: sure, I didn't state that it *will* get dropped, but only that we could in theory decide to drop it. [02:29] Kronuz_: No, don't do gdm restart yet === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-114-65.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] Otherwise it'll destroy the log data [02:29] Good point. [02:29] ok [02:29] keescook: they are dropping it from the next release which is etch for Debian and feisty for Ubuntu. But if you say it won't be much problem to do security support for it I will believe you [02:29] sistpoty: yeah, for sure. And I'd understand; it's needed a lot of attention. :) [02:30] 'm a programmer, so maybe I can help to nail this once and for all [02:30] (only I'm very new to Linux) [02:30] geser: personally my opinion is to not drop it, as long as we've got upstream support on patches [02:30] Kronuz_, what you are describing is a very common problem with all kinds of applications. [02:30] geser: well, if they drop it from etch, it won't automatically drop from feisty. [02:31] geser: however the real problem is that we need more manpower in motu-swat. once my thesis is finished... *dreaming* [02:31] noahslater, what do you mean? this has happened to me three times already in two days [02:31] Kronuz_, all that means is that you have a specific application that is causing problems. [02:31] I'm using X, and suddenly everything freezes (but the mouse pointer) [02:31] No, it's an X bug [02:32] so maybe I could go killing applications until I get to the one with the problem? [02:32] Really... that happens to me sometimes - but it's usualy a misbehaving application. [02:32] sistpoty: and we can't use the security updates from Debian as there won't be any. we have to do it on our own. [02:33] geser: yep. however from the few updates I've done testing is really what consumes most of the time, as long as the patches are somewhere/the description is good enough === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.197.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] I don't see anything wrong in dmesg or Xorg.log === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:34] no errors nor anything [02:34] mjg59, what would you do next? [02:35] top shows the player only (~5% of CPU) [02:35] Kronuz_: Which X driver are you using? [02:35] I'm using NVIDIA [02:35] sistpoty: afaik WP has no changelog, so one needs to dig in the bugs and svn :( [02:35] Heh. Not a great start. [02:35] Kronuz_: It's likely to be an X driver bug, and we don't have the source code to the nvidia one available [02:36] but this morning someone else was using ATI and had the exact same symptoms [02:36] geser: at least it's svn and not cvs. :) [02:37] really a driver's bug? this morning the other guy I was talking with said he even got the frozen box once in the DesktopCD [02:37] (also using Edgy) [02:37] maybe it's a coincidence, tho' (the symptoms) [02:38] can't I just go killing stuff? to see if it suddenly responds? [02:38] but I wouldn't know what to kill :S [02:38] (the audio player is working) [02:39] mjg59, what do you think? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:39] Kronuz_: It's a possibility [02:42] I think I'll start killing Beryl [02:43] I suppose it's 'beryl --skip-gl-yield' [02:43] Oh. [02:43] You're using Beryl? [02:43] yes [02:43] I blame Beryl. [02:43] NVIDIA and Beryl [02:43] maybe [02:43] but the keyboard? [02:44] Entirely possible [02:44] not even caps lock or num lock is doing anything (not even the leds in the kbd change) [02:44] I'm killing Beryl now... or what was the other command to restore the other windows manager? [02:44] I might try that first [02:44] metacity --replace [02:45] let me try that, ok? [02:45] You'll need to export DISPLAY=:0 first [02:45] hmm [02:45] ok [02:46] gn8 everyone [02:47] mjg59, nope, that command froze [02:47] (had to ctrl+c it) [02:47] and it did nothing on the other box [02:47] mjg59, what would you do next? === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.216.190.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:48] I'd attempt to reproduce the bug without beryl and without using the nvidia drivers [02:48] :P [02:48] let me kill beryl-manager [02:49] Kronuz_: I'm seeing the same problem as you with an ATI card when running Beryl, so it's probably either a Beryl bug or an Xorg bug triggered by something that Beryl does. [02:50] I see... it would be good to know tho' [02:50] this guy I told you about this morning wasn't using Beryl tho' [02:50] (he had an ATI card) [02:50] I never see the bug under metacity. [02:51] but I have NVIDIA, so I suppose that if it is the same bug it would leave Beryl and the card drivers out [02:53] There's no indication that it's the same bug [02:53] yeah, it could be a different one :( [02:53] (the exact same symptoms tho') [02:54] maybe if this is happening there should be some logging when that happens [02:55] mjg59, okay I killed Beryl and it started working again === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] (no titlebars tho') [02:55] so definitely is must be a Beryl issue [02:55] It first happened for me when the Xorg 7.2 updates started rolling in. [02:55] Ok. We don't ship Beryl, so you get to keep the pieces. [02:55] :P [02:56] okay, thanks anyway... I guess I'll just have to wait and see if they fix this issue in Beryl [02:56] but, hey, do you know if I can get a coredump or something from that process? [02:56] probably not anymore :( [02:56] I should have done so before killing it, right? [02:57] Yes [02:57] (I don't know how coredumps work, exactly... I'm comming from the Windows world) [02:57] how should I do the dump next time? [02:57] Never mind. It'll probably happen again [02:57] so maybe I can help debugging it [02:58] kill -SEGV pid [02:58] Oh, sig -QUIT pid ought to be better [02:58] but what if it doesn't quit? [02:58] I always use -9 :P [02:58] hehe [02:58] <.< [02:58] >.> [02:58] -QUIT should force a core dump [02:58] I see... that's what I should always use then... [02:59] and where's the core put? [02:59] is there a way to know if more than one threads were running in the process? [03:00] or if it had any children [03:00] mjg59, next time I'll get them the coredump (to the Beryl guys) [03:01] be back in my other box in a sec [03:01] and people wonder why we don't ship beryl [03:02] heh [03:02] Well, we don't ship beryl because it's non-free [03:02] But should that be recitified, I'm sure we can find other reasons [03:03] I've heard they're meant to fix those bits in 0.2.0 [03:03] whenever that may come out === Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-084-056-062-208.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Kronuz [n=kronuz@189.168.23.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] back [03:04] mjg59, okay I got metacity working again [03:07] Beryl is non-free? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180103047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo__ [n=slomo@pD9547421.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:22] non-sense. === blanky [n=blanky@pool-72-87-195-57.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:44] is there a channel for packagers? [04:05] in what package is the glxtokens.h, does anybody know? === mark007 [n=mark@x40-240.dhnet.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blanky [n=blanky@pool-72-87-195-57.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-55-87.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nightwish [i=gsn@segfault.kernel-oops.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gobat [n=bill@h110.97.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gobat [n=bill@h110.97.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-abb8505cc44d8747] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kdean06 [n=fader681@216.127.159.64] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kdean06 [n=fader681@216.127.159.64] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === mark007 [n=mark@x40-240.dhnet.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@201-212-110-136.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mark007 [n=mark@x40-240.dhnet.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki [n=shenki@ppp124-146.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mark007 [n=mark@128.227.131.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.216.190.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.216.190.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === khermans__ [i=administ@nat/cisco/x-668c1f1dce3c74ec] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A93460.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timfrost [n=tim@125-238-177-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] I've patched libxcb to allow a workaround for the 'c->xlib.lock' crashers [08:11] by setting an environment variable LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK to any value the check will be ignored [08:12] the new version is at http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new/libxcb [08:12] and the patch is originally from Novell [08:12] please test [08:12] or upload, which suits best ;) === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] Good morning [08:13] good morning pitti [08:13] I just wrote about a patch to libxcb [08:13] hey tepsipakki [08:14] pitti: if you have time, take a look at http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new/libxcb [08:14] tepsipakki: ah, you need a sponsor? [08:14] yes [08:15] it's a patch from Novell which fixes the locking bugs we've seen [08:15] tepsipakki: can you please put hte source debdiff there? [08:15] sure [08:16] there [08:17] it needs an environment variable to be set, then the check will be ignored [08:17] so it's not an out-of-the-box solution [08:18] bbl -> === fabbione would prefer the workaround enabled by default and we switch to a more anal locking in feisty+1 [08:18] i am not sure we will have time to fix all apps to the new behavious [08:19] behaviour [08:21] fabbione: hm, I can reverse the logic and use LIBXCB_NO_SLOPPY_LOCK for using the strict method [08:22] pitti: nobody is going to set that env var to test... hounestly.. [08:22] IMHO either we change that assert in something that will tell us: OMG THE WORLD IS FALLING but we disabled the crash for you [08:22] fabbione: you mean developers not setting it to test the strict method? [08:22] or just skip it for feisty and re-enable it very early in feisty+1 [08:22] pitti: nobody will set it.. but yeah you get it [08:23] fabbione: ok, so we forget the env var and just use sloppy locking; can do [08:23] the message from assert is scary too... [08:23] pitti: that's my suggestion [08:23] and that's what i would do [08:24] for a matter of our own and MOTU's sanity [08:24] oooooorrlright === pitti bows to Fabio's X skillz [08:24] hahaha that's nothing to do with X 31337 sk1ll0rz [08:25] we just need to remember (absolutely) to disable it as soon as feisty+1 opens up [08:25] and go with what upstream has === pitti uses LIBXCB_NO_SLOPPY_LOCK, it can't hurt to have it, after all [08:38] yeah, maybe that's better :) [08:39] fedora still has libx11-1.0.3, so they were better informed :/ === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.216.190.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] pitti: while you're at it, there are other packages in the parent of that webfolder [08:41] xorg and video-ati [08:42] debdiffs also [08:42] tepsipakki: 'k, checking === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@67.249-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:44] tepsipakki: the ati fixes come from upstream svn? [08:44] one of them is applied atm === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:45] tepsipakki: (it would be nice to mention their source in the changelog) [08:45] oh [08:45] right [08:46] the bugs have more info, but it could be mentioned yes [08:46] tepsipakki: ah, ok; if they refer to the source, it's at least possible to track them; nevermind then for this ati upload === Riddell [n=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] Hi Riddell === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] tepsipakki: ok, both uploaded [08:48] pitti: thanks! [08:48] thanks to you :) [08:49] np :) [08:49] maybe I'll debug casper next [08:50] tepsipakki: after I'm finished with that one mailbox, I'll restart X to test the libxcb change, then I'll upload that as well === mvo [n=egon@p54A64D05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] pitti: cool [08:51] that should make a lot of people less angry :) [08:52] pitti: you don't need to restart X.. it's a shared lib :) [08:52] pitti: just run something like azureus (or whatever is called) that's known to trigger the lock error [08:52] fabbione: yes, but only that way I can make sure that all the gnome stuff is restarted [08:53] fabbione: ah, cool, I didn't see it so far === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:53] pitti: yeah but just starting something else will do... trust me here :) === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:53] ok === pitti downgrades again to check for the assert [08:53] otherwise the simplest test case is to LockDisplay(); UnlockDisplay(dpy); UnlockDisplay(dpy); [08:53] using libx11 calls [08:53] pretty simple === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:55] is anyone taking care of bug 82335 - it seems to affect a significant number of people and makes a lot of applications unhappy [08:55] Malone bug 82335 in network-manager "network-manager should not set offline mode when it manages no device" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82335 [08:56] for example, my eth1 doesn't seem to be detected by network manager so lots of my GNOME applications are broken [08:56] quite apart from network-manager itself being totally useless === fabbione takes off === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-1ac37f677d85a5a6] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] mdke: that's a good point. === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] Mithrandir: :) [09:05] I'll see if I can get that fixed. [09:06] morning Mithrandir [09:06] hiya Andrew [09:06] Mithrandir: thanks very much === Kagou [n=Kagou@86.76.23.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-31-58.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F70192.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] good morning === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.248.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A66B17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:21] hi daniel [09:22] hey andrew === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.2.87] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] morning === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] hey seb128 [09:45] pitti: hi [09:46] pitti: do we really need to use the sloppy lock things now? === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] pitti: I was thinking about doing that for feisty, using it now hide breakages we could fix for 7.04 though [09:47] hi seb128 [09:48] hey dholbach [09:48] we can fix those we have time for [09:48] seb128: *shrug*, I just listened to tepsipakki and fabbione, and it seemed sane; if you are sure that we can fix all the broken apps, then that's certainly better [09:48] well, the dust is under the carpet now :p [09:48] pitti: not sure, I would keep trying to fix breakages now and consider it for feisty then [09:49] given that fedora ships xorg-server-1.2.99.901 with libx11 from 7.1 :) === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] \sh_away: re your php4 uploads> you know about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-February/023296.html ? [09:54] pitti: ok, let keep it that way, less work and we don't have an xorg maintainer to work on those anyway. Thanks for the upload, I was supposed to do them yesterday but I've been busy with other things === seb128 hugs pitti === pitti hugs seb128 back === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host104-36-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] ogra: do you plan to use that gnome-screensaver patch that fixes xnest? === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === arre [n=ac@1-1-5-33a.gfa.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:32] seb128: if you have a minute, please take a look at bug 90333 [10:32] Malone bug 90333 in totem "totem plugin causes frequent gecko crashes because NPPVpluginKeepLibraryInMemory is broken" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90333 [10:33] asac: the discussion with chpe has been useful then? ;) [10:33] yes [10:33] we could eliminate that [10:33] so we don't have to fix gecko code [10:33] asac: I'll patch totem now [10:33] which is really broken [10:33] patch looks fine [10:33] thank you so much [10:33] and I'm all to stop crashers flood [10:33] i guess almost all firefox crashes are gone by then :) [10:33] np, thank you for working on the patch ;) [10:34] yeah ... i tried multiple ways to fix this in firefox ... but no real clean solution possible [10:34] so i gave up :) [10:34] and went totem ;) === finalbeta is happy to hear, maybe Firfox will stop crashing every half hour. (except for flash pages) [10:42] seb128: will you push this to debian too? [10:42] asac: will do [10:43] asac: you worked with the edgy version? === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] because the patch doesn't apply to the feisty package [10:43] the feisty version does: [10:43] CallNPN_SetValueProc (sNPN.setvalue, [10:43] mInstance, [10:43] NPPVpluginKeepLibraryInMemory, [10:43] NS_INT32_TO_PTR (PR_TRUE)); [10:44] oh [10:44] yes tested with edgy ... but is probably the same [10:44] its about removing the NPPVpluginKeepLibraryInMemory optino [10:44] ok [10:44] and taking care that so [10:44] is loaded [10:44] with _NOREMOVE === lfittl [n=lfittl@86.59.100.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:44] is pretty simple [10:45] yeah, I see, easy to adapt [10:45] seb128: you can easily reproduce [10:45] and verify [10:45] doing that right now [10:45] how? [10:45] just open a video [10:45] hit reload [10:45] then go [10:45] gnome theme [10:45] and switch it [10:45] -> crash [10:45] does someone can explain me why "echo 'foo' > /root/home/$UTILISATEUR/.bar" in casper-bottom/10adduser doesn't work ? [10:46] seb128: should crash epiphany as well as firefox [10:47] doko_: looks like you left a set -x in python2.5-minimal's maintainer scripts? [10:48] Sp4rKy: (a) depends on where you put it (b) I hope that isn't actually $UTILISATEUR since that doesn't exist === herzi [n=herzi@p548FC15C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:51] chroot /root install -D -o $USERNAME -g $USERNAME $file /home/$USERNAME$ [10:51] what's this if $USERNAME doesn't exist ? [10:51] cjwatson: hrm ..., fixing === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm110.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] cjwatson: and for a), i put my line just after the line i print over === mpytasz [n=dduck@pc-212-51-218-194.p.lodz.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] Sp4rKy: that line creates the directory if it doesn't exist. [10:55] Mithrandir, cjwatson: have you had time to look at the UVF exception for fuse 2.6.3? [10:55] geser: no, sorry. [10:56] I'll do so once my email client wants to talk with me again [10:56] Mithrandir: so $USERNAME exists [10:56] seb128, indeed i do [10:56] ogra: k [10:57] so i don't understand why echo 'ubiquity-gtkui.desktop' >> /root/home/$USERNAME/bar doesn't work [10:57] seb128, did you prefer no to ? [10:57] Sp4rKy: add set -x to the top of the script, read /var/log/casper.log when you've booted the live image. [10:57] ogra: no, quite the opposite, I though you were going to apply it after herd freeze and it's still not uploaded so I was wondering [10:58] i wasnt working on screensaver stuff yet [10:58] k [11:00] Mithrandir: thx [11:01] Mithrandir: is there some good doc about casper, or testing is the best way ? [11:01] Sp4rKy: there aren't any docs but what you can find on the wiki [11:04] tepsipakki: Configuring x11-common ... Incorrect nice value; Please enter an integer between -20 and 19. [11:04] tepsipakki: does that relate to your recent xorg upload? === mrevell [n=matthew@82-47-80-45.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] heno: Hey [11:05] mrevell: hi [11:05] Mithrandir: ok [11:05] pitti: [11:05] xorg (1:7.2-0ubuntu4) feisty; urgency=low [11:05] . [11:05] * debian/x11-common.config.in: [11:05] - fix validate_nice_value() not to fail when using adept [11:05] (Closes: LP #68267) [11:05] seb128: ah, ok, so that was the fix, not the source of the bug [11:06] ok Lp is down. x11-common wont install now matter what ive tried [11:06] heno: Just a reminder that the Launchpad users meeting is at 17:00 UTC in #launchpad today. If anyone from the distro team or other Ubuntu devs have complaints, suggestions, praise or questions :) [11:06] Mithrandir: building initramfss :) [11:07] it gets stuck in ncurses (asks you to choose a nice value"-20 to 19") it fails to let you choose [11:08] gnomefreak: lp is not down [11:08] mrevell: cool, who from LP will be there (besides yourself)? [11:08]