[12:30] <crimsun> sistpoty: looks good.
[12:30] <sistpoty> crimsun: good, because I've already sent it... sorry 
[12:30] <crimsun> hehe, np
[12:35] <LaserJock> ScottK: still around?
[12:36] <sistpoty> anyone who'd like to help me with uploading SRU's to -updates?
[12:37] <LaserJock> sistpoty: how many are there?
[12:37] <sistpoty> LaserJock: I guess around 20 or so that are ready
[12:37] <sistpoty> https://launchpad.net/~motu-sru/+subscribedbugs
[12:39] <sistpoty> (since these are mine)
[12:40] <LaserJock> what about bug #70495
[12:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70495 in rpy "[SRU]  python-rpy doesn't follow debian python policy" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70495
[12:40] <LaserJock> it's my SRU
[12:41] <sistpoty> LaserJock: if it's > 7 days + has 2 works for me, fire away ;)
[12:41] <LaserJock> I haven't gotten a 2nd "works for me" exactly but it's been fixed in Debian/Feisty and is trivial
[12:42] <LaserJock> should I get a 2nd?
[12:42] <crimsun> yes.
[12:42] <sistpoty> yes, please
[12:42] <LaserJock> bah :-)
[12:42] <LaserJock> I pick the SRUs that nobody tests
[12:42] <sistpoty> argl... why didn't I doublecheck my changes-file for a 2nd changelog entry... damn -v option *g*
[12:42] <LaserJock> I've had one in Main for a few months now
[12:43] <sistpoty> LaserJock: try asking around, maybe in #ubuntu or so... /me had luck in #ubuntu-de :)
[12:44] <crimsun> I can test it, but you have to give me about 15 minutes to create an edgy pbuilder.
[12:44] <LaserJock> I'll go to #ubuntu :-)
[12:44] <LaserJock> give them something to do
[12:45] <crimsun> tsmithe: / TheMuso: what are good times+days for an ubuntu-audio meeting?
[12:45] <crimsun> I need to start this transition ASAP so we're not left in the lurch
[12:49] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:49] <LaserJock> anybody in here want to test an Edgy package real quick?
[12:50] <LaserJock>  #ubuntu seems maybe a bit preoccupied
[12:50] <sistpoty> LaserJock: can I test it in a chroot? or would I need a real machine?
[12:51] <LaserJock> chroot's fine
[12:51] <sistpoty> ok
[12:51] <LaserJock> just install python-rpy
[12:51] <LaserJock> and fire up python and import rpy
[12:52] <sistpoty> ... installing 
[12:55] <sistpoty> LaserJock: works for me
[12:55] <LaserJock> it imported ok?
[12:55] <sistpoty> LaserJock: yes
[12:55] <LaserJock> good
[12:55] <LaserJock> I can't say the same for when I just tried it on feisty :/
[12:56] <ajmitch> mm, lunch
[12:56] <sistpoty> LaserJock: same here :(
[12:57] <LaserJock> well, fix one bug ... find another
[12:57] <LaserJock> sistpoty: how have you been doing the changelogs?
[12:58] <sistpoty> LaserJock: I've been adding "No-change upload, propagating to ...-updates" and "Tested by: names of testers"
[12:58] <sistpoty> LaserJock: and building with dpkg-buildpackage ... -vlastversionbeforeproposed
[12:59] <sistpoty> -S -us -uc
[12:59] <crimsun> I've also used the new ClosingBugsFromChangelog syntax
[12:59] <sistpoty> LaserJock: e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmms-sid/+bug/82692
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82692 in xmms-sid "[SRU]  xmms-sid broken in edgy" [Undecided,Fix committed]  
[12:59] <sistpoty> crimsun: does it work yet?
[12:59] <crimsun> sistpoty: dunno, I've always manually set Fixed Committed/Released
[01:00] <sistpoty> ah :)
[01:00] <crimsun> since it's policy, however, I just follow it
[01:00] <sistpoty> well, even then, I guess ubuntu-sru should let it into -updates before the bug should get marked fix released
[01:01] <crimsun> right, I don't mark FR until I can apt* install
[01:01] <sistpoty> yeah, right
[01:01] <theCore> hmm... I don't like that. NetworkManager in ubuntu-desktop...
[01:02] <theCore> I wonder if it
[01:02] <theCore> it is working
[01:02] <crimsun> it works for certain chipsets and certain networks
[01:02] <crimsun> e.g., works with ipw2195abg using ipw2200 on open/wep/wpa[2] 
[01:03] <theCore> and what about atheros?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> It's still far from perfect though
[01:03] <crimsun> I don't have any atheros hw to test
[01:03] <LaserJock> works on mine
[01:03] <LaserJock> the only thing I have a problem with is static IPs
[01:03] <sistpoty> hooray, I've trashed my edgy chroot... thanks dbus :(
[01:04] <theCore> I doesn't work on mine though, and it block my connection when it's installed
[01:04] <theCore> IMHO, this is a bad, bad bug...
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> My gripes:  No way to manage whether a network is "trusted" or "added" (or whatever the terms are), no way to delete remembered networks that no longer apply, and it messes up my DNS stuff so I can't be connected to the internet wired and my local wifi lan at the same time.
[01:04] <crimsun> network-manager in desktop is arguably much more useful than compiz bling
[01:04] <theCore> I will give it another try and see if it works now
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> true
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> theCore: when you say blocks - did you uncomment in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:05] <theCore> tonyyarusso: uncomment?
[01:06] <marcin_ant> hi all
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> theCore: The interface can't be managed the normal way and by NM at the same time.  See the NM instructions on the wiki
[01:06] <marcin_ant> crimsun: I think that there will be much more trouble with network manager than with compiz...
[01:07] <Fujitsu> marcin_ant: Possibly, but NM is actually vaguely useful.
[01:07] <LaserJock> I agree
[01:07] <LaserJock> but regardless, we get both
[01:07] <LaserJock> so we gotta make the best of the situation :-)
[01:07] <ajmitch> crimsun: agreed, having NM for my laptop is far more important than wobbly bits
[01:09] <theCore> compiz is in ubuntu-desktop too?
[01:09] <crimsun> I would say that being able to open a console to use wpa_supplicant.conf(5) is far more rescuable than staring at a black screen o' death once compiz is invoked
[01:09] <marcin_ant> Fujitsu: but is also limited and your point of view can be different than point of view of a lot of users with for example aDSL
[01:09] <crimsun> but maybe I'm just more insane than most
[01:09] <marcin_ant> Fujitsu: afaik NM is not ready for this 
[01:09] <Fujitsu> crimsun: I just get white window borders. It's great.
[01:09] <crimsun> nice
[01:10] <Fujitsu> marcin_ant: There is no easier method of configuring ADSL currently, so it's not a regression.
[01:10] <LaserJock> ah bummer, I didn't use the best versioning for the -proposed package
[01:11] <LaserJock> oh wait, I did, I just didn't have it in the debdiff
[01:11] <LaserJock> phew
[01:11] <theCore> marcin_ant: I agree that PPPoE connections always been a pain to configure 
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Is Feisty shipping with universe enabled?
[01:11] <marcin_ant> Fujitsu: well I don't agree - there is a lot of unofficial packages that make adsl connectivity pretty fast and easy
[01:11] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee seems to be doing well.
[01:11] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: the net-enabled install I did several weeks ago didn't
[01:11] <Fujitsu> Staying this time, Hob... Apparently not.
[01:11] <marcin_ant> Fujitsu: and the problem with NM is that it replaces old style networking configuration
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: hmm, ok.  Thought I'd heard that once
[01:12] <theCore> (she is running NM)
[01:12] <Fujitsu> marcin_ant: No... You can still use the old-style one if you wish.
[01:12] <crimsun> irssi thinks that sarah rejoining is: 19:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Hobbsee
[01:12] <marcin_ant> Fujitsu: I use NM and I really appreciate this but imho it's not ready to use as default networking subsystem
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> My irssi didn't see a netsplit
[01:13] <crimsun> what can I say, my irssi is more screwed than most (guess that's what happens when the shell runs Mandrake)
[01:13] <theCore> let see if NM will work this time...
[01:13] <marcin_ant> and it's development is unfortunately very slow in my opinion
[01:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: didnt think it was a netsplit - was konvi sigsieving
[01:14] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Ah. KDE.
[01:14] <crimsun> Hobbsee: that's a feature!
[01:14] <Fujitsu> crimsun: Mandrake!? Why? That's inhumane.
[01:14] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heh
[01:14] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: it's svn.
[01:15] <LaserJock> ahhhh stink, can we get around that silly Maintainer: thing yet?
[01:15] <ajmitch> no
[01:15] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: Modify dpkg yourself, it's not hard.
[01:15] <ajmitch> dpkg-dev
[01:16] <ajmitch> or unset DEBEMAIL
[01:16] <_MMA_> tonyyarusso: RE: Universe enabled. I did a "Alt" disk install a week ago and it was. So, I dont know what will happen.
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> I had Mandrake on a box until last night :P
[01:16] <crimsun> right, seeing today's dpkg change.
[01:16] <LaserJock> I'm trying to do a no-change upload
[01:16] <Fujitsu> ajmitch: I saw that change fly past last night... That's a nice workaround.
[01:16] <crimsun>   * scripts/dpkg-source.pl: Only fail to build the source package if $DEBEMAIL contains 'ubuntu'. If not, only print a warning.
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> _MMA_: noted - I'll guess we'll see in a few weeks
[01:17] <LaserJock> crimsun: goodness sakes
[01:17] <LaserJock> so I need to unset DEBEMAIL
[01:18] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: cant you set it to an @ubuntu.com address?
[01:18] <crimsun> LaserJock: see what andrew said ;)
[01:18] <LaserJock> it's a no-change upload
[01:18] <Hobbsee> ah, right.  presumably build1 also dies?
[01:18] <sistpoty> no build1 works fine
[01:19] <sistpoty> (just tested it *g*)
[01:19] <Fujitsu> sistpoty: I'm glad of that.
[01:19] <LaserJock> bah
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> wth?  Why does mondo depend on the -386 kernel?
[01:20] <geser> LaserJock: but the package has already ubuntu changes?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> or something did...hold on
[01:20] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: err, in feisty? I don't see it listed.
[01:20] <LaserJock> geser: I'm just trying to upload a ubuntu1 version to -updates
[01:21] <crimsun> what was the -proposed version?
[01:21] <LaserJock> -ubuntu1~prop1
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: bah, it's a recommends - I'm using aptitude, so it grabbed it.
[01:22] <crimsun> LaserJock: ah
[01:22] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: the only Rec I see is dvd+rw-tools
[01:22] <sistpoty> Fujitsu: will you upload azureus or shall I do it?
[01:22] <LaserJock> not setting DEBEMAIL doesn't work :/
[01:22] <Fujitsu> sistpoty: I'll do it.
[01:22] <sistpoty> Fujitsu: thx
[01:22] <crimsun> LaserJock: dpkg -l dpkg |grep ^ii
[01:22] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: Have you got the new dpkg-dev?
[01:23] <Fujitsu> sistpoty: Doesn't it need more ACKs?
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: --recurse it
[01:23] <Fujitsu> Oh, of course.... Just 2 now.
[01:23] <sistpoty> ;)
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: it's in mindi
[01:24] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't have dpkg-dev installed
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> It has linux-amd64-generic | linux-386 | linux-powerpc, should have | linux-generic appended to that.
[01:24] <LaserJock> oh yes I do
[01:24] <LaserJock> 1.13.24ubuntu5 
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> Says it's maintained by MOTU - anyone want to fix it quick ;)
[01:24] <crimsun> LaserJock: old, update.
[01:25] <LaserJock> I did
[01:25] <crimsun> nope.
[01:25] <LaserJock> must not have gotten to me yet
[01:25] <crimsun> ii  dpkg           1.13.24ubuntu6
[01:25] <LaserJock> I see it's ubuntu6
[01:25] <crimsun> I know se.archive has it, too
[01:30] <shawarma> stgraber: around?
[01:32] <theCore> meh, it didn't work
[01:33] <LaserJock> my gosh
[01:34] <theCore> should I conclude that network-manager don't work with the madwifi driver?
[01:34] <shawarma> theCore: No.
[01:34] <shawarma> theCore: I'm using it.
[01:34] <shawarma> theCore: Happily, even.
[01:35] <theCore> shawarma: atheros card?
[01:35] <shawarma> theCore: Yes.
[01:35] <Riddell> sistpoty: you added verification-motu-done to bug 74408, what does that mean?
[01:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74408 in xdg-utils "[SRU] : xdg-utils for edgy-updates: 1.0 has syntax errors with dash" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74408
[01:35] <theCore> hmm... bizarre then 
[01:35] <shawarma> 168c:0013
[01:35] <theCore> I wonder what I did wrong...
[01:35] <sistpoty> Riddell: we changed the sru policy... so only 2 "works for me" are needed and a 7 day delay
[01:35] <LaserJock> theCore: works for me too
[01:36] <sistpoty> Riddell: so feel free to upload to -updates ;)
[01:36] <theCore> 01:07.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[01:36] <jdong> sistpoty: are there bonus brownies for more worksforme's? :D
[01:36] <jdong> sistpoty: or longer delays? :D
[01:36] <shawarma> theCore: lspci -n | grep 01:07.0
[01:36] <sistpoty> Riddell: (and as a side note, motu-sru will be gone, and any motu can upload to -proposed right away)
[01:36] <theCore> shawarma: 01:07.0 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01)
[01:36] <shawarma> theCore: Same as mine.
[01:37] <Riddell> sistpoty: would be good to have MOTU/SRU updated then
[01:37] <sistpoty> jdong: you might get a pony if you collect 20 works for me ;)
[01:37] <crimsun> Riddell: dholbach is addressing that.
[01:37] <sistpoty> LaserJock: keep on trying ;)
[01:38] <jdong> sistpoty: yay!
[01:38] <shawarma> theCore: File a bug.
[01:38] <jdong> I'd like... a ping pony
[01:38] <jdong> pink*
[01:38] <jdong> or blue
[01:38] <LaserJock> I finally got around the maintainer thing
[01:38] <jdong> or white
[01:38] <Riddell> LaserJock: 40 minutes!  it's taken me three months!
[01:38] <LaserJock> but now my debdiff has 3 extra source files
[01:38] <LaserJock> Riddell: well, it was filed in Dec.
[01:38] <theCore> shawarma: yeah, but I would like to know the source of the problem before
[01:38] <sistpoty> Riddell: sorry, I was about to add another comment describing that, but I've too many sru-bugs open in my browser right now *g*
[01:38] <LaserJock> I'm just trying to get it form -proposed to -updates today :-)
[01:39] <crimsun> jdong: sorry, I've laid claim to pink/blue/white ponies.
[01:39] <jdong> AWW I don't want the brown and orange ones :(
[01:39] <jdong> I see too much of that around my window borders.
[01:40] <theCore> "These cards also take an awful long time to scan, which further degrades their responsiveness." -- from http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerHardware
[01:40] <theCore> maybe I didn't wait long enough
[01:40] <shawarma> theCore: does it not work at all? What happens?
[01:41] <theCore> shawarma: it doesn't connect 
[01:41] <theCore> shawarma: I don't get an IP from my router
[01:41] <shawarma> theCore: Just to be sure: It's on feisty?
[01:41] <theCore> shawarma: yes
[01:42] <shawarma> theCore: Ok. Well, the interesting part is probably whatever wpasupplicant spews out.
[01:42] <theCore> shawarma: well, I don't use wpasupplicant
[01:42] <shawarma> theCore: Networkmanager does.
[01:43] <theCore> hmm...
[01:43] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: will you take care for uploading gtetrinet? or shall I do it?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: say what?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: i dont know anything about gtetrinet
[01:43] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: you sponsored the upload to -proposed back then https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtetrinet/+bug/74133
[01:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74133 in gtetrinet "[SRU]  gtetrinet crashes on first startup" [Medium,Fix committed]  
[01:44] <shawarma> theCore: I believe there was a short while when we tried not using wpasupplicant when connecting to unprotected networks, but it failed miserably. IINMM we always use wpasupplicant now.
[01:44] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: oh, sru's that i uploaded 3 months ago?  no wonder i didnt remember it
[01:44] <sistpoty> hehe
[01:45] <Hobbsee> um, i really do need to fidn some lunch here, can you handle it?
[01:45] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: sure, no problem
[01:45] <ajmitch> go eat, and leave us here all by ourselves
[01:45] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: what do we do about xserver-xgl?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: heh.  i will.  you all seemed to hold the fort in the MOTU meeting.
[01:45] <sistpoty> xserver-xgl?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: jdong's stuff.
[01:45] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: why are you worried about xgl?
[01:46] <sistpoty> no idea? what's wrong with it?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: i'm thinking that if we're going to accept potential crack, it'd be good to get as much testing as possible before release.
[01:46] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i was reading logs from earlier
[01:46] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i'm not.
[01:46] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: it doesnt work in feisty.
[01:47] <ajmitch> the "potential crack" is already in universe, and we're just trying to fix what
[01:47] <ajmitch> 's there
[01:47] <Hobbsee> true that
[01:47] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: how about fixing it? *g*
[01:47] <ajmitch> it's a git snapshot in universe anyway
[01:47] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: jdong already has, but it's got a uvfe attached to it
[01:47] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: ah... well, uvf is not my realm :P
[01:47] <theCore> shawarma: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9029/
[01:47] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: i thought it was?
[01:48] <shawarma> theCore: Your hdb looks broken. :-)
[01:48] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: no, only sru... but as of tonight even that no longer :)
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hehe, nice :)
[01:48] <theCore> shawarma: yeah, it got a Windows cd :)
[01:48] <ajmitch> sistpoty: do you think we should get rid of -uvf as well? ;)
[01:48] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i was meaning the change creating more crack :P
[01:49] <sistpoty> ajmitch: no, ppl. in there don't need to write a thesis, do they? *G*
[01:49] <shawarma> theCore: Heh.
[01:49] <crimsun> it's basically the same core people anyhow, stefan ;)
[01:49] <sistpoty> hehe
[01:49] <shawarma> theCore: So nm shows you the linksys ap and you click it and nothing ever happens?
[01:50] <theCore> shawarma: no, the `linksys' doesn't even show up 
[01:50] <theCore> shawarma: I need to manually add it
[01:50] <shawarma> theCore: what the..
[01:50] <sistpoty> crimsun: well, I guess we really should try to get a fresh member into motu-uvf for feisty +1... (I'd opted that for -sru as well, however that's past now)
[01:50] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I can't think of what other crack it may introduce
[01:50] <shawarma> theCore: You add it manually?
[01:51] <crimsun> sistpoty: yes, good idea certainly
[01:51] <theCore> shawarma: yes
[01:51] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: i'd think about doing it, just for the kde side.
[01:51] <theCore> shawarma: scanning doesn't seem to work
[01:51] <theCore> even though, iwlist scan my network fine
[01:51] <shawarma> theCore: Is ath0 in your /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:52] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: great... I hope I won't forget until we decide on s.th. like this ;)
[01:52] <theCore> shawarma: I comment it when installed NM
[01:52] <shawarma> theCore: Ok.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: heh.
[01:54] <shawarma> theCore: I'm too tired to get this right now. We can debug it tomorrow perhaps?
[01:54] <theCore> shawarma: yeah, thanks
[01:54] <shawarma> theCore: np
[01:56] <sistpoty> grmbl... gnome packages... grmbl. someone should really remove /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/gnome.mk
[01:56] <Hobbsee> sistpoty: why?
[01:57] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: it's mangling the control file during build
[01:57] <Hobbsee> ahh
[01:57] <Hobbsee> sure that's not bloody yada?
[01:57] <theCore> I wonder if network-manager would work under fedora ...
[01:57] <sistpoty> Hobbsee: no been facing such packages a few times already
[01:58] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:58] <sistpoty> however no yada ones yet :)
[01:58] <Hobbsee> woo!
[01:58] <sistpoty> (or maybe only one or so)
[01:59] <crimsun> mmm a nice LP beta oops
[01:59] <LaserJock> I think perhaps I can't build the source package on Feisty, for some reason
[01:59] <LaserJock> so I'm making a edgy chroot
[02:26] <imbrandon> moins all
[02:26] <sistpoty> hi imbrandon
[02:27] <imbrandon> ello sistpoty 
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> Bitesize: bug 90272 for anyone interested - otherwise I might tackle it myself later
[02:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90272 in mindi "Recommends lacks generic kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90272
[02:40] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:41] <geser> night bddebian :)
[02:41] <bddebian> Hi geser
[02:42] <geser> time to go to bed, it's nearly 3 am here
[02:42] <bddebian> Eeks, gnight man
[02:44] <Toadstool> hey bddebian 
[02:44] <bddebian> Hi Toadstool
[02:45] <bddebian> heh
[02:45] <bddebian> Gnight sistpoty
[02:45] <sistpoty> gn8 everyone
[02:46] <Toadstool> gnifght
[02:47] <Toadstool> bddebian: well, these guys are in Europe and I didn't sleep at all this week-end ;)
[02:47] <bddebian> heh
[02:48] <Toadstool> spent the whole week-end gambling in Vegas... + a soccer game last night, I am freakin' exhausted :p
[02:48] <bddebian> That'll do it
[03:25] <zul> damn nickserv
[03:39] <ScottK> LaserJock: I'm back now.
[03:47] <joejaxx> is there are freeze on updates to non-new packages already in the universe repository?
[03:50] <ajmitch> joejaxx: upstream version freeze
[03:52] <_MMA_> ajmitch: We have some metas that need their app lists updated. I think I was told that they can be updated like they were bug-fixes.
[03:53] <_MMA_> "We" being Joe and I.
[03:53] <imbrandon> no new upstream versions, as long as its alocal bug fix
[03:54] <_MMA_> Just changing a list of apps in a meta.
[03:55] <joejaxx> hmmm
[03:58] <ajmitch> they'll just be native packages, I don't see a problem with that
[03:59] <_MMA_> Ok.
[03:59] <_MMA_> One thing we have to change is to move from ardour in our list to ardour2 when crimsun finishes it.
[04:00] <_MMA_> We've been waiting a little on that.
[04:02] <joejaxx> hello superm1 :)
[04:02] <superm1> hey joejaxx 
[04:03] <superm1> Hm where are the password change forums for moinmoin, (help.ubuntu.com)
[04:15] <TheMuso> crimsun: Anywhere between 07:00 and 11:00UTC, or 19:00UTC and later. The first set is evening/night for me, and the second is early morning and into the day.
[04:21] <crimsun> TheMuso: ok, thanks
[04:36] <TheMuso> crimsun: np
[04:37] <TheMuso> crimsun: But with enough notice, I can make any time at the moment.
[04:38] <crimsun> I'd like to gather an ubuntu-audio meeting (open to the public, of course) so we can go over some basic triaging policy, walk through some -{kernel,driver} work, etc.
[04:38] <crimsun> it'd be educational to everyone IMO
[04:38] <TheMuso> Right.
[04:39] <TheMuso> I understand a lot of driver/kernel concepts, but am not up on the coding side of things.
[04:43] <TheMuso> dc
[04:43] <TheMuso> damn wrong console
[04:49] <_MMA_> crimsun: Im sure you will, but remind us Ubuntu Studio guys when you get that meeting together.
[04:49] <crimsun> _MMA_: sure thing
[04:54] <ScottK> If pbuilder whines "warning; no utmp entry avaiable and LOGNAME not defined..." is it a problem?  If so, I'd appreciate hints on what needs fixing?
[04:54] <crimsun> it's not fatal, no.
[04:55] <crimsun> nor does it cause pbuilder to generate trojaned binaries ;)
[04:57] <ScottK> Thanks.  Sounds good enough for tonight.  I'll learn more about it later.
[05:12] <Toadstool> grah! why the heck does update-manager require more than 38Mbytes free on /boot when the whole kernel+initramfs needs less than 12?!
[05:13] <lifeless> to build the new kernel and initramfs on upgrades?
[05:15] <Toadstool> lifeless: never had any issues with my 50Mbytes /boot before, why would it be a problem now? :(
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> Toadstool: b/c you have other kernels stored there and it's going to fill up.  You can remove some you don't need anymore
[05:16] <Toadstool> anyways, not a big deal, I can cope with that ^^
[06:01] <LaserJock> ScottK: sorry, I forgot. I fixed up my scripts a bit
[06:02] <LaserJock> ScottK: http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/pbuilder-ubuntu and http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/pbuilder-debian
[06:03] <ScottK> The unfixed one is working pretty well for me.
[06:03] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:05] <ScottK> If I'm using simple-patchsys.mk for patches and they fail to apply, what's the easiest way to test modifications to the patches to see if they apply?
[06:07] <crimsun> you should totally use cdbs-edit-patch
[06:07] <crimsun> dpatch-edit-patch and cdbs-edit-patch are lifesavers
[06:08] <ScottK> Thanks.  I'll look into it.  This is my first attempt to use a patch system in one of my packages...
[06:08] <LaserJock> yeah
[06:08] <LaserJock> ScottK: pitti did a really good patching tutorial
[06:09] <LaserJock> oh sorry
[06:09] <crimsun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources
[06:09] <LaserJock> MOTU/School/ has a link
[06:10] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:14] <ScottK> That is useful.  I think I've about run out of steam for the night, so good night.
[06:15] <crimsun> 'night
[06:16] <LaserJock> man, my laptop must suck
[06:17] <ajmitch> why so?
[06:18] <LaserJock> my AMD 1800+ does a dist-upgrad about twice as fast as my Celeron 2.8GHz laptop
[06:18] <LaserJock> it takes it ~1min to unpack a pbuilder
[06:18] <RAOF> laptop harddrivesw suck
[06:20] <LaserJock> :/
[06:20] <Lathiat> yeh hard drives are what do it
[06:20] <ajmitch> 4x CPU speed, 4x RAM, etc
[06:20] <ajmitch> it'd be nice :)
[06:21] <RAOF> It's what you get for having a new laptop and an oldish desktop
[06:21] <LaserJock> lol
[06:21] <LaserJock> I'd like a laptop with 1GB of ram
[06:22] <TheMuso> is it possible/allowed to add udev rules to a package?
[06:25] <ajmitch> 1GB of RAM for a laptop isn't bad
[06:25] <ajmitch> TheMuso: should be
[06:25] <ajmitch> considering how many packages add udev rules :)
[06:27] <TheMuso> lol
[06:28] <TheMuso> I take it you've seen many?
[06:29] <ajmitch> look in /etc/udev/rules.d
[06:29] <crimsun> TheMuso: yes, it is.
[06:29] <ajmitch> plenty of package rules there, like brltty, libgphoto2
[06:29] <crimsun> sane offhand does
[06:29] <TheMuso> Ok, thanks guys.
[06:30] <LaserJock> man, I so love an AMD64 with 2GB of RAM
[06:30] <ajmitch> it'd be a bit of a step down
[06:30] <LaserJock> yeah yeah
[06:31] <LaserJock> I'd love like a 3GHz P4 even
[06:31] <ajmitch> now a decent laptop like that, I'd take
[06:31] <nixternal> you people never seem to amaze me
[06:31] <nixternal> SLEEP ALREADY!
[06:32] <ajmitch> it's only 6:30!
[06:32] <nixternal> LaserJock: I have a celery 1.6 with 2gb of ram, please send me a bigger and badder laptop to put my 2gb of ram into
[06:33] <nixternal> my desktop crashed and burned, either mobo or cpu, athlon xp2000+. I can't find a socket A mobo, but there is a combo deal at newegg for a sempron 64 2800+ and biostar mobo for $65. I am debating on that
[06:34] <nixternal> if I get that combo deal, I will just turn it into a dev box with a 250gb hard drive, stick it in a closet and rock and roll
[06:34] <nixternal> there was a guy in my LUG that has a amd64 and mobo for sale, but he hasn't been online the past 2 days
[06:35] <ajmitch> only a single 250GB drive?
[06:36] <nixternal> more than enough
[06:36] <ajmitch> you'd go through that in a few weeks
[06:36] <nixternal> I have a G4 minus a video card for trade :)
[06:36] <nixternal> ajmitch: SAN to the rescue
[06:37] <nixternal> the only sata drive I have is in this laptop
[06:37] <ajmitch> I don't need to replace the drives just yet
[06:37] <ajmitch> which is good, since the motherboard only has 4 sata ports
[06:38] <nixternal> hehe
[06:38] <nixternal> I really only use my laptop now, but it is good to have some test machines lying around
[06:38] <ajmitch> the case has room for about 12 drives
[06:38] <nixternal> jeesh
[06:39] <nixternal> sounds like my lian-li case with the dead mobo
[06:39] <LaserJock> my laptop is an advanced ssh terminal
[06:39] <ajmitch> well, 9 in the usual 3.5" drive bays
[06:39] <ajmitch> it is a lian-li case
[06:39] <nixternal> it has more realestate than trump
[06:39] <nixternal> lol
[06:39] <nixternal> pc70?
[06:40] <ajmitch> yep
[06:40] <nixternal> LaserJock: so is mine, ssh term that is. I try to sell Linux to everyone, and when they come and look all they see is this dos looking thing, or if the gui is up, yakuake with ssh terms and irssi, and emacs
[06:40] <nixternal> ajmitch: haha same here
[06:40] <ajmitch> big black full tower case
[06:40] <nixternal> ahh, I got the silver one
[06:41] <nixternal> I got it for $150 from Canada when they first came out
[06:41] <nixternal> nice. when I did hardware reviews for HardOCP and VH back in the late 90's early 2000's, I got a couple from them, but sold them on ebay
[06:41] <ajmitch> using screen in each terminal :)
[06:41] <nixternal> sometimes I wish I would have kept some of that stuff
[06:42] <nixternal> my laptop is the first computer I have paid money for since about 2000/2001
[06:42] <nixternal> I will have to replace my CRT as well, and it is Ubuntu's fault
[06:42] <ajmitch> why would it be ubuntu's fault?
[06:43] <nixternal> because ubuntu pushes a 17xx x xxxx resolution to a 1600x1200 max crt, I heard a pop
[06:43] <nixternal> I can still use the monitor, but only at 1280x1024 @ 60hz
[06:44] <ajmitch> heh, nice
[06:44] <nixternal> if I boot from a livecd, the monitor will start to whistle very loudly
[06:44] <nixternal> because it is trying that 17xx resolution
[06:44] <ajmitch> this monitor will do max 1600x1200 comfortably
[06:44] <ajmitch> I've never seen anything drive it over that
[06:44] <nixternal> SyncMaster 955DF is what I have
[06:44] <nixternal> I have had it since the late 90's as well, I love it
[06:44] <nixternal> love(d) I guess
[06:45] <ajmitch> all I know is that this is some digital crt
[06:46] <ajmitch> eisa: DEC06f9
[06:46] <ajmitch> that's all ddcprobe tells me :)
[06:46] <nixternal> I bought a bunch of these cheap 21" crts, daewoo a few years back that are pretty rock solid, they were like $75 USD ea refurbed
[06:46] <ajmitch> nice
[06:47] <nixternal> I had a 21" LCD, but during my move, i broke it
[06:47] <nixternal> that was a hand me down too
[06:48] <nixternal> heh, I have a 15" viewsonic rocking out on my only working test computer right now
[06:48] <nixternal> I would like to find some 17" LCDs, refurbed for cheap so I can redo my desk and just hang them on the wall
[07:19] <nothlit> cheap ones aren't designed to be wall mounted usually
[07:43] <robitaille> anyone knows the date of the next MOTU meeting?  The wiki says "Tuesday March 23rd" which is clearly wrong...since the 23rd is a Friday.
[07:44] <robitaille> maybe Tuesday the 27th?
[07:44] <crimsun> no, same day as TB (20th), earlier time of day
[07:45] <robitaille> TB is on the 27th according to the Fridge calendar
[07:46] <crimsun> hmm, yes, the 27th.
[07:48] <robitaille> thanks crimsun; the Fridge has now been updated
[07:52] <supervillain> Hi everyone, I need to package an init script, with cron.d and /etc/default/ config file, is there a Hello like package for init scripts?
[07:54] <crimsun> well, you could see feisty's apport source package
[07:55] <supervillain> ok, I'll try it, thanks!
[08:57] <muzzol> hi
[08:57] <muzzol> how can i unsuscribre from launchpad bugs list?
[08:59] <LaserJock> muzzol: how do you mean? a particular bug?
[08:59] <muzzol> no
[08:59] <muzzol> i receive lot of [Bug 90230]  mails
[08:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90230 in gimp "gimp: single window screenshot doesn't work" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90230
[09:00] <muzzol> and i dont rememebre the exact url where i suscribe it
[09:00] <LaserJock> that's because you are subscribd to something
[09:00] <LaserJock> did you do it for a particular package?
[09:00] <muzzol> yes, but the mails dont give any information about it
[09:00] <muzzol> i supose is from ubuntustudio
[09:00] <LaserJock> mhm
[09:01] <muzzol> but i can't find any info
[09:01] <muzzol> i think this mails should indicate where you can unsuscribe
[09:01] <muzzol> or at least
[09:01] <muzzol> where to find information
[09:02] <LaserJock> well, it's not always easy
[09:02] <LaserJock> but there is a launchpad bug about that
[09:02] <muzzol> hehe
[09:02] <muzzol> nice one
[09:03] <LaserJock> it could be coming from https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio/+packagebugs
[09:03] <LaserJock> in which case the only way to get rid of it is to filter it or leave the ubuntustudio team
[09:04] <muzzol> :(
[09:04] <muzzol> i'm starting to understand the complains about launchpad
[09:04] <muzzol> :P
[09:05] <LaserJock> well, it's not trivial I don't think to have a team subscribed to packages and then selectively have people not subscribed
[09:06] <LaserJock> teams are sort of all or nothing at this point
[09:06] <Laser_away> gotta run, sorry
[09:13] <muzzol> np
[09:14] <dholbach> good morning
[09:36] <AstralJava> Morning dholbach.
[09:37] <AstralJava> A basic question; how does one debug perl stuff when pbuilding, cause the components used at chroot install time can't be handled with?
[09:37] <dholbach> hi AstralJava
[09:38] <AstralJava> Hmmm, I guess I could, by providing a local repo and tweaking the file inside the debs in that local repository?
[09:38] <AstralJava> But is there no other way?
[11:10] <mrevell> Hey guys - the first Launchpad users meeting is on at 17:00 UTC in #launchpad today. It'd be great to get your questions, suggestions, complaints, praise, etc.
[12:03] <AnAnt> ajmitch: ping
[12:07] <TheMuso> AnAnt: He's likely to not be around I would think.
[12:09] <AnAnt> k
[12:30] <LongPointyStick> oh, 4am.
[12:31] <TheMuso> Yes, a little too early IMO.
[12:31] <TheMuso> :)
[12:31] <TheMuso> Oh and gotta love the flood of accepted messages on -devel.
[12:32] <LongPointyStick> hrm?
[12:38] <StevenK> w
[12:38] <StevenK> Oops.
[01:03] <siretart> imbrandon: around?
[01:09] <daviey> he was
[01:09] <daviey> been idle for nearly 8 hrs tho :P
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !xconfig
[01:18] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !fixres
[01:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:41] <fernando> how can i to install a package (apt-get or aptitute) without run postinstall?
[03:46] <fernando> s/postinstall/configure the package/
[03:48] <asimon> fernando: with 'dpkg --unpack' you can unpack the package without configuring it. running postinst is part of the configure step.
[03:50] <fernando> asimon: i need to suppress all dialogs on intall process. exists a way to do this?
[03:52] <superm1> hey guys lirc is fairly borked right now, and I'm pretty sure that a uvfe will need to be done for it.  the last release was 0.8.1, which added 2.6.19 compat.  CVS has 2.6.20.  i was going to package a CVS snapshot for it, since it looks like it is quite a bit of patches involved. will a CVS snapshot be acceptable for a uvfe still, or should i try to work through all of the patches to find all the 2.6.20 related ones?
[03:52] <asimon> fernando: I dunno. With debconf -p critical you can suppress all conf-dialogs with a priority less then critical. But I don't know how to supress them all.
[03:56] <fernando> asimon: thank you
[03:56] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:57] <superm1> hey bddebian 
[03:57] <bddebian> Hi superm1
[03:57] <superm1> right before you stepped in - i mentioned something, "hey guys lirc is fairly borked right now, and I'm pretty sure that a uvfe will need to be done for it.  the last release was 0.8.1, which added 2.6.19 compat.  CVS has 2.6.20.  i was going to package a CVS snapshot for it, since it looks like it is quite a bit of patches involved. will a CVS snapshot be acceptable for a uvfe still, or should i try to work through all of the patc
[03:57] <superm1> hes to find all the 2.6.20 related ones?" could you comment on that?
[03:59] <zul> superm1: does the lirc snapshot ifdef their drivers? then it should be easy to pickout the 2.6.20 ones
[04:00] <superm1> zul, for some of the drivers yes
[04:00] <superm1> but not every one
[04:00] <zul> ah..
[04:00] <superm1> eg, i know atiusb broke
[04:00] <superm1> but it has nothing ifdef'ing 2.6.20 in it
[04:00] <zul> well that sucks
[04:02] <superm1> so zul what is the best way to approach this then?  I can just have a big patch that brings it up to CVS version without a uvfe?
[04:02] <superm1> until the next formal release
[04:11] <imbrandon> siretart, pong
[04:16] <zul> superm1: I think so, thats what I would do atleast
[04:58] <_MMA_> lol
[05:15] <stgraber> shawarma: around ?
[05:26] <stgraber> shawarma: Ok, I'll e-mail you with the results (still not good :()
[05:49] <_MMA_> Hey guys. Can LGPL software be statically linked with GPL-ed software?
[05:54] <bddebian> Re-license the LGPL to GPL! :-)
[05:55] <_MMA_> bddebian: If it were only that easy. :)
[05:55] <_MMA_> Is glibc LGPL?
[05:56] <hermanr_> It used to be.
[05:56] <hermanr_> And that was Stallman's call.
[05:56] <hermanr_> Hence, I think it's OK.
[05:57] <_MMA_> Im getting a "yes" to my question on another channel and thats the example.
[05:58] <hermanr_> No sweat, then.
[05:59] <hermanr_> This reminds me about the musings of whether observant Jews can live beyond the Arctic circles.
[05:59] <hermanr_> musings on*
[06:22] <shawarma> stgraber: Hmm... That looks interesting.
 hi there, how does ubiquity translation work? Rosetta?
 I'm the d-i translator for Albanian, I'd like to see the rest of the front-end translated too
[08:25] <LaserJock> man, this is the center of activity today :-)
[08:25] <_MMA_> :)
[08:26] <zul> LaserJock: hmmm
[08:26] <TheMuso> Hey MOTUs.
[08:26] <LaserJock> that's better
[08:26] <LaserJock> I was getting lonely
[08:26] <TheMuso> haha
[08:26] <LaserJock> ;-)
[08:26] <tsmithe> hey TheMuso (/me evily assumes title of MOTU)
[08:27] <TheMuso> tsmithe: heh
[08:27] <tsmithe> don't forget the MOTU Hopefuls ;)
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Ooooh where, oh where did my upstream dev go, oh where oh where can he beeeee....  I'd like a new tarball to play with you see,  so please send one my way before threee.
[08:27] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock, TheMuso, tsmithe, etc..
[08:27] <bddebian> Now, get over and get bug triaging!! :-)
[08:27] <tsmithe> not Hug Day yet
[08:27] <tsmithe> (is it? /me forgot)
[08:27] <TheMuso> I will once I completely wake up, and have gone through mail.
[08:28] <bddebian> tsmithe: It's bdmurray's hug day, not the Universe one.  And every day should be hug day :-)
[08:28] <tsmithe> also, i've got school work to do (note my complete lack of enthusiasm for bug triaging fun atm)
[08:28] <tsmithe> :P
[08:28] <tsmithe> sorry, mate
[08:30] <bddebian> Yeah, yeah, excuses, excuses :)
[08:31] <LaserJock> anybody working on ajmitch's list?
[08:32] <\sh> rc bug fixing?
[08:32] <\sh> from debian?
[08:32] <LaserJock> yeah
[08:32] <\sh> I have klamav on my list...
[08:33] <LaserJock> we need to at least get the ones requiring UVFes going soon
[08:35] <LaserJock> naughty naughty ajmitch ;-)
[08:35] <zul> ajmitch: slacker
[08:35] <LaserJock> although I suppose you should be excused because you made the list
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> Um, the last tinyurl in the /topic leads to a restricted portion of Launchpad - is that intentional?
[08:36] <\sh> remove the beta ;)
[08:37] <ajmitch> LaserJock: so?
[08:37] <zul> thats frigging annoying :)
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> yeah, but that's annoying
[08:37] <zul> or 3
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> Actually, even removing the beta doesn't give anything useful.
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> oh well
[08:38] <LaserJock> tonyyarusso: which part of the topic?
[08:38] <LaserJock> that could have been me :/
[08:38] <\sh> http://tinyurl.com/2v32u4
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: http://tinyurl.com/2v32u4
[08:38] <\sh> this one I think
[08:39] <LaserJock> that was probably me :(
[08:41] <LaserJock> there I fixed it ;-)
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> :)
[08:43] <TheMuso> That topic actually makes sense. :)
[08:44] <TheMuso> Not that I wasn't really able to understand the topic previously.
[08:45] <cbx33> LaserJock, LP beta?
[08:45] <LaserJock> what?
[08:45] <tsmithe> \o/ for beta
[08:46] <LaserJock> the beta testers get Beta by default
[08:46] <LaserJock> so if I paste a URL I have to make sure to take out the .beta in the URL
[08:47] <cbx33> ping ajmitch 
[08:50] <herzi> slomo: ping
[08:50] <herzi> slomo: can you look into https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-launch-box/+bug/90439 please?
[08:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90439 in gnome-launch-box "gnome-launch-box 0.2 is out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[08:50] <herzi> I think this release fixes at least one of the other reported bugs
[08:50] <TheMuso> um... What is bitesyze supposed to mean?
[08:50] <TheMuso> for tagging universe bugs?
[08:51] <LaserJock> small tasks good for Hopefuls
[08:51] <ajmitch> cbx33: hi, I'm just here for a couple of minutes before I head off for work
[08:51] <cbx33> ajmitch, pm?
[08:51] <cbx33> really quick
[08:51] <cbx33> did you get it?
[08:54] <\sh> herzi: for this we need an UVF exception report
[08:54] <TheMuso> LaserJock: ah ok thanks.
[08:58] <lizardking> Hello everybody! Could someone tell me what I have to do to remove this advice and pulish finally the package ? http://rafb.net/p/3Wng5613.html
[08:58] <herzi> \sh: we can get the exception if it actually fixes a really nasty bug, can't we?
[08:58] <lizardking> here is the REVU entry http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4547
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: for the .bzr dir issue, talk to your upstream and get them to remove it; if that's a no go, you'll have to modify the orig yourself :(  For copyright, you should include the Preface of the GPL only, and then a line of "For the full text, see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL", or some such.  The changelog needs a date, in the format output by 822-date I think is the name.  For the executable, just do the chmod command given on
[09:02] <\sh> herzi: sure
[09:03] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: ok many thanks man! i will do you advices! It is my first contribution to Ubuntu so I'm a bit frustrated ;)
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: Pretty new to this aspect myself :)
[09:05] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: do you? nice to be like you...
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: I'm currently hoping to get my first package done, but I'm waiting for a new tarball from upstream before hacking away again.  Seems he's too tired from skiing with his son or something :S
[09:06] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: fun! ^__^
[09:07] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: what's your package?
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: The next version of Nvu (WYSIWYG web page creator)
[09:08] <bddebian> Later folks
[09:09] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: wonderful! Do you think they put you new NVU in feisty? 
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: Maybe.  I'd need an exemption at this point, since the regular deadline is passed, but if I can get everything working okay within the next week there's a chance.
[09:11] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: Do you know how to get a exemption?
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: Theoretically.  A bug assigned to motu-uvf.
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> Not sure if there's much more to it.
[09:12] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: Where I get the buglist of motu-uvf?
[09:15] <\sh> lizardking: how to report a UVF report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess (check the motu/universe section)
[09:16] <\sh> lizardking: bug list of motu-uvf team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[09:16] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: thanks! it was the info I was searchinf for...
[09:16] <\sh> argl
[09:16] <\sh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~motu-uvf/+assignedbugs
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> yeah, that's the link
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> I'm still waiting for it to load :S
[09:20] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: ehehe. tonyyarusso please last question.. what about that: "* to generate the tarball, please use ./autogen.sh && make dist " ? what I have to do?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> lizardking: autugen.sh must be a script that comes with your source - just issue that command from within your source directory
[09:21] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: but I have it on my src dir!
[09:21] <lizardking> tonyyarusso: lizardking@iac:~/Desktop/oransun$ ls -l autogen.sh 
[09:21] <lizardking> -rwxr-xr-x 1 lizardking lizardking 226 2007-02-09 13:44 autogen.sh
[09:22] <LaserJock> autogen creates the ./configure and other autotools stuff
[09:22] <lizardking> LaserJock: ok
[09:22] <lizardking> LaserJock: so? I have to remove configure and co?
[09:22] <LaserJock> generally sofware authors run ./autogen before distributing the source
[09:22] <LaserJock> lizardking: it's already in there?
[09:22] <lizardking> yes
[09:23] <lizardking> LaserJock: look here http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/oransun-look-0703051320/oransun-look-0.2/autogen.sh
[09:23] <LaserJock> hmm
[09:25] <LaserJock> I'm not sure what running autogen.sh would do for you then
[09:25] <LaserJock> maybe he didn't see that it had already been done
[09:27] <lizardking> LaserJock: eh. It is that what I was thinking
[09:38] <slomo> herzi: will do tomorrow...
[09:39] <slomo> herzi: i wanted to look at the new release anyway
[09:39] <herzi> slomo: thank you
[10:32] <ajmitch> careful
[10:33] <LaserJock> btw, beta has our +filebug tagging feature now
[10:34] <ajmitch> excellent
[10:34] <ajmitch> now we just need it in production
[10:34] <ajmitch> though I may use it for some mass filing
[10:35] <LaserJock> ajmitch: try https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug-advanced?field.tags=universe-request
[10:36] <ajmitch> useful
[12:09] <LaserJock> mwuahahaha
[12:10] <tsmithe> ahaaha?
[12:11] <LaserJock> I gotta figure out how to do my .procmailrc
[12:13] <tsmithe> yes...
[12:13] <tsmithe> erm...