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[02:11] ya [02:11] ok === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.241.37.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121nv1.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] yuck was the OO.o splash screen ubuntuified === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] is downloads from edgy to feisty really at 30k/s === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken__ [n=mstemle@147.sub-75-204-60.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:30] Well, we're moved. [04:31] cool === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A7246E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] only 4 hours and 34 minutes remaining according the Upgrader [04:33] Heh [04:33] what a nice piece of software [04:33] Yeah. [04:33] great job Riddell [04:33] and company [04:34] I did the apt-get distupgrade thingy on my dev box. [04:34] My work lappy is still happily plugging away with edgy. [04:34] i'm hopefully getting a new work laptop this weekend [04:35] I'm on an aircard right now until I can get my internet service set up tomorrow. [04:36] Aircards suck. [04:36] It's only about twice the speed of dial-up. [04:36] If I wanted that I'd be a DSL subscriber. === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:10] !info kubuntu-docs [06:10] kubuntu-docs: kubuntu documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 6.10-1 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 2056 kB === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee reads http://dkukawka.blogspot.com/2007/03/kpowersave-debian-kubuntu-packages.html with interest === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950F97C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |infinity| [n=TheInfin@pD950CDF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-204-106.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pusling [i=pusling@195.215.29.124] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:19] jjesse: you got the upgrader working? [09:21] Riddell: you are fallen off oftc ;) === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:57] <_StefanS_> mornings === btse [n=btse@mail.phoneticom.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] moins === stdin_ [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] salut [10:15] heya Riddell === stdin_ [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [10:31] jjesse: is that you finished with your client who didn't let you have irc access? === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === larsivi [n=larsivi@85.221.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] hmm, I had compiz-core installed from the edgy days, but the upgrade (and removal) fails due to some script problems - http://paste.dprogramming.com/dpnjutlg.php [10:49] is there somehow possible to just force remove it? [10:50] larsivi: how are you upgrading? [10:50] apt-get upgrade - but I think it already failed in the dist-upgrade [10:51] trying to remove it gives me the same error more or less [10:51] if the compiz packages you had installed are all from the ubuntu archives then file a bug === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] they are from either universe or multiverse I think [11:00] that's fine then === arre [n=ac@alchemist.openend.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:05] has anyone experienced washed out video in kaffeine? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138340 [11:05] KDE bug 138340 in general "Kaffeine 0.8.3 has greatly increased contrast with XV on i810 video cards" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] [11:10] Riddell: I have; it's not a xine bug but a driver bug in i810. [11:10] (affecting both -i810 and -i810-modesetting) [11:11] crimsun: ah, there's another problem where kaffeine didn't restore the contrast setting properly, so including the patch for that should allow affected people to set the contrast and be happy [11:12] ah, interesting. === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950CDF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@katapult/developer/tvo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger [11:59] Lure: what do you think of declairing a general UVF exception on KDE 4 and related packages, this would include strigi and decebel [12:09] Riddell: yes === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] Riddell, sounds like fun :P === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44726.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-97-37.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] Are there more people that cannot drag and drop emails from one kmail dimap folder to another? [12:40] I don't get the more or copy or cancel dialogue anymore [12:40] I think it happened with the last kde updates. [12:41] And it's fixed after restarting kmail. [12:41] Sorry for the noise (not that there was signal) [12:48] hehe ;) === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] nixternal! doc string freeze today no? [12:56] Riddell: that would be nice and would make lot's of sense === Hobbsee wonders what to do for dinner === Hobbsee thinks roasted customer might be tasty. [12:57] Lure: lets ask the kubuntu council to declaire it so [12:58] Lure: what's this for? [12:58] [11:59] Lure: what do you think of declairing a general UVF exception on KDE 4 and related packages, this would include strigi and decebel [12:58] sounds good to me [12:58] raphink, allee? [12:58] Riddell: any news on libkexiv2 in source NEW? [12:58] does this mean that kubuntu council can decide such things, for kubuntu? [12:59] ie, to break freezes, etc? [12:59] Lure: seb says he did lots of other archive admin yesterday and didn't get to it :( [12:59] Riddell: pong === Hobbsee wonders about kpowersave by default in feisty... [12:59] Hobbsee: for KDE stuff in universe I'm happy to overrule MOTU council unless they object [12:59] Hobbsee: see my comment: http://dkukawka.blogspot.com/2007/03/kpowersave-debian-kubuntu-packages.html [12:59] Lure: yeah, i saw. that's what made me think of it. [12:59] allee: Lure: what do you think of declairing a general UVF exception on KDE 4 and related packages, this would include strigi and decebel [01:00] Lure: that being said, i wonder if it'd be possible to put it as an alternate to g-p-m in kubuntu-desktop (not on the cd) === Hobbsee notes it's in universe now [01:00] so people have the option about too many config options, or not enough [01:01] without removing k-d [01:01] Hobbsee: 0.7.2 is still considred as "unstable" by upstream, therefore I do not see any hurry [01:01] Hobbsee: and bugs are already coming in... [01:01] Lure: ahhh [01:01] Hobbsee: you can install it w/o removing k-d [01:01] kde-guidance-powermanager is already a recommends [01:01] oh yes, you probably can now [01:01] Hobbsee: and you can remove g-p-m (it is only recommends) [01:02] oh, so we dont install it by default per se, anyway, interesting === Hobbsee thought it was a dep [01:02] Hobbsee: all recomends of k-d are inslled by default [01:02] yep === Hobbsee realises that - thoguht we still had everything as a dep, like before the autoinstalling of recommends packages [01:03] Riddell: as KDE 4 is a moving target we have to rely on upstream. No chance to stabilize it in the traditional sense IMHO. If the people involved with KDE4 pkgs prefer it, general UVF is okay for me. Aboout strigi and decebel: ... [01:03] Hobbsee: more and more stuff goes to recommends now, so if you have anything to suggest just ping Riddell [01:06] at least strigi is used by KDE3 apps. So it needs an extra careful look. [01:06] allee: it's only used by strigi-applet, which is released alongside strigi [01:06] allee: only applet & client [01:08] Riddell, Lure: If the applet client + updated strigi is stable, no problem ;) I only would like to prevent that we make a KDE3 app worse just to get some more KDE 4 features in. [01:08] allee: they are all released together [01:09] As soon a a new KDE4 Snapshot comes out, almost everyone will jump on it, regardlass what KDE4 we in include ;) [01:09] allee: it is qt4 app, therefore usable on kde [01:09] kde3 [01:09] Lure: I only remember debian SEGV with updated strigi. (but did not look carefully at the reports) [01:09] allee: yep, this is linked with plugins and I plan to work on it [01:09] Lure: cool :) [01:10] Lure: ah, great === Lure wants strigi as I hate beagle/kerry bloat === allee hugs Lure [01:11] Riddell: what's up? [01:11] strigi is not as fancy as kerry, but it does not kill my laptop [01:11] raphink: [12:59] allee: Lure: what do you think of declairing a general UVF exception on KDE 4 and related packages, this would include strigi and decebel [01:11] :) [01:11] I'm fine with this :) [01:12] as Lure will have an eye on strigi +1 from my side too. [01:14] rocking, I'll inform MOTU [01:14] " My girlfriend doesn't want to update her Edgy to Feisty ever when today she realized that the sleeping Konqi was gone from the shutdown" [01:14] _StefanS_: oh dear :) [01:15] <_StefanS_> haha tell her about the doUbuntuLogout=0 [01:15] <_StefanS_> then she'll have konqi back [01:15] <_StefanS_> women... [01:17] _StefanS_: yep, you can never understand them... ;-) [01:17] haha [01:17] Lure: we like bling and shiny things :P === _StefanS_ doesn [01:17] <_StefanS_> argh [01:17] Hobbsee: and ponnies ;-) === Lure has three girls at home ;-) [01:17] <_StefanS_> well they're from another planet I'm told.. [01:18] Lure: just tell your girlfriend to make it her desktop background, then she can see it all the time! === _StefanS_ doesn't understand his wife either - and thats after 7 years [01:18] er, sorry. Riddell's quote's girlfriend === Hobbsee doenst think women are that complex... [01:18] <_StefanS_> most are. [01:18] <_StefanS_> :D [01:18] Lure: imbrandon has the fetish for ponies. [01:18] Hobbsee: I have still on my TODO to move my wife from Windows to Kubuntu :-( [01:20] <_StefanS_> Lure: just do it, take the wrap for it , and in one month the bitching wears off.. [01:21] <_StefanS_> Lure: done it myself, and my wife dont want to go back since she has come accustomed to it now [01:21] Lure: hehe [01:21] <_StefanS_> which is nice. === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54955B35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] hi all [01:52] heya mhb! [01:56] ash211_: bug 74478 is fixed not rejected :) [01:56] Malone bug 74478 in adept "adept cannot answer Debconf questions" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74478 [02:02] Riddell: yes, today is doc string freeze :( [02:02] never enough time I tell ya [02:03] nixternal: how much time did you have? [02:03] I will have a few more patches I am sure come in today, then I will create the po files, upload, package, upload :) [02:03] oh damn === Hobbsee has to get up in 6 hours [02:03] milk! [02:03] mhb: the entire release, BUT...it is hard to document due the changes, so usually you start the documentation process the last month to month and a half before freeze [02:04] and seeing as I am the only one who worked on Kubuntu docs this release, it was a tight schedule === Riddell hugs nixternal [02:04] hehe === jack_at_home [n=jack@123.114.75.248] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal tosses Riddell an Irn Bru === nixternal still doesn't understand how he likes that stuff [02:05] he's scottish I suppose? [02:05] I guess so [02:05] so is half my family and I don't even think they like it [02:05] my x-wife did like it though [02:07] I need to make an index page for the system docs yet [02:07] ouch, I forgot all about that === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm110.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf_ [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@cm110.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@katapult/developer/tvo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neutraloss [n=neutralo@rrcs-24-97-98-201.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.2.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] Riddell: the kdelibs4-doc deb for kludge on kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3 seems to be incomplete [03:55] it's a 24m file when the packages file reckons it should be closer to 40 [03:55] je4d: there's no such package [03:55] err, hmm, there is [03:56] why on earth is kdelibs from kde 3 in that archive [03:57] Riddell: good point.. i hadn't spotted the version was 3.5.x [03:58] there's a whole bunch of 3.5.x stuff in there [03:59] I wonder how that happened === mbiebl [n=michael@85.180.71.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:02] I almost installed some of it O_o === kdefreak [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:04] Riddell: My career choice / guidance teacher is bugging me for my volunteer hours, could you email them to her please? === MrWGW [n=opera@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] good morning [04:05] morning MrWGW === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] Riddell: we got first SRU through verification - bug 73617 [04:13] Malone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73617 === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] Lure: oh, good, what does that mean? [04:16] Riddell: we can upload it to -updates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates === glatzor [n=sebi@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:17] Riddell: have seen edgy was updated with upgrade changes - does this mean we can try, or is there still something on soyuz side missing? [04:18] Lure: seems adept failed to compile :( [04:18] Riddell: :-( [04:21] Riddell: i'm still having problems installing kludge.. kdelibs5_3.80.3-0ubuntu1~edgy1 is in the archive but is absent from the packages file [04:23] same goes for kdelibs5-dev === Alpha_Cluster [n=nikkun@bsu205003.bemidjistate.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] and for kde4libs and kde4libs-data === \sh is now known as \sh_away === hamster_ [n=hamster@c-67-188-242-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:31] er, not kde4libs, that's not a package. [04:33] je4d: should be updated now === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:34] Riddell: cheers.. i'll see if apt-get -f install can defuckup my system now :) === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.138.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N803P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:48] Heya [04:50] hi :D [04:54] Hi Jucato [04:57] Riddell: still have her email? [04:57] kdefreak: probably not since my irssi restarted [04:57] Riddell: kk, I'll go get it again [04:58] hm... is the oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp in feisty complete already? the one for edgy seems to have missing images/text === icefox [i=ben@nat/trolltech/x-13c6ffe2e7acddb5] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kdefreak --> lunch === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@C6f87.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=drywindb@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@80.178.152.55.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071170.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neutraloss [n=neutralo@rrcs-24-97-98-201.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-97-37.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=drywindb@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #kubuntu-devel ["trombone"] [07:05] Thanks Riddell :D === apacheLAGger [n=me@N845P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:17] where can one find the list of packages included on the livecds? [07:25] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20070308/feisty-alternate-i386.list ? === neutraloss_ [n=neutralo@rrcs-24-97-98-201.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:30] Riddell: thanks, is that true for the livecd too? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071170.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm110.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp91-76-77-3.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] hi [07:46] fdoving: no, but it's 99% the same [07:47] Riddell: ok. thanks. === apachelogger [n=me@N845P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:51] fdoving: you can get them from here http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/livefs-build-logs/feisty/kubuntu/20070308.1/ [07:52] with some parsing === toma is going to burn a herd live cd [07:52] good luck === ryanakca heads off to his vacation... sun... beach... ocean :D [07:53] please fix udev so all symlinks in /dev/.udev/db are valid (just add leading "../../") [07:54] ryanakca: enjoy it [07:54] dinosaur-rus: no udev maintainers here [07:55] do i need to do something special to make it bootable? [07:55] toma: nope [07:56] Riddell: ok, just I thought it was extended by Kubuntu team :)) [07:58] wodim: No such file or directory. [07:58] Cannot open SCSI driver! [07:58] dinosaur-rus: nope [07:58] toma: bad burn? try validating the CD [07:59] Riddell: it does not want to burn to start with === ash211__ [n=andrew@user-1121kaj.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:59] do i need wodim to burn? [08:00] Riddell: will do [08:00] hm, thats installed already [08:02] Riddell: if there's a fix for that problem, will it be published in package repositories? in other words, will it be considered important bugfix? [08:02] ah, access rights to the device === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-39-62.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:06] ok, lets try booting from it [08:06] dinosaur-rus: it would be in feisty [08:08] Riddell: I already use Feisty [08:10] Riddell: and there's udev 106 available, but Kubuntu still uses 103 [08:11] kubuntu just uses whatever ubuntu uses [08:11] ubuntu has been in upstream version freeze for some weeks [08:12] ok, in fact that's not so important, just a bit annoying :) === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071170.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] Riddell: i received an "i/o error reading boot cd" with on the background: "isolinux: disk error 80 ax=4820, drive 9f", should i report that somewhere or did i do something wrong maybe? [08:18] 4280 === \sh is now known as \sh_away [08:22] metisse looks cool. [08:23] toma: can you verify that the burn is good at the CD boot? [08:23] toma: but yes, do report it [08:23] Riddell: results in the same error [08:23] toma: boot into your current system and do an md5sum check on it === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] Riddell: is that md5sum /dev/cdrom ? [08:27] toma: not too sure what the best way is [08:28] try it and see :) [08:28] i'll do a dd === elcuco_ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-7-230.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:32] hmm, size is different === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] second try === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu_ is now known as toma [09:07] Riddell: google suggest indeed broken in google only mode === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] why is kopete having ugly colors in the contact list? [09:09] toma: glad you agree :) [09:09] sredna: tonio chose the theme [09:09] Riddell: how can i reset it to something nice? [09:11] there is no config options for that [09:12] I'm sure there is, select a different theme === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] <_StefanS_> evening === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:27] Riddell: the contact list [09:27] the main window [09:27] Riddell: i have a much more serious problem: i can't build kde4 kate [09:27] it tries to link to kde3 libs [09:28] because they are MISPLACED in /usr/lib !!! [09:28] which appearently are first in the -L order [09:32] sredna: -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4 ? [09:32] Riddell: it seems you are not using a standard kopete distribution [09:33] Riddell: that kinda doesn't fix problems with the linker [09:33] kanders@mercury:~/build/kdesdk$ make [09:33] Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libkateinterfaces.so [09:33] CMakeFiles/kateinterfaces.dir/kateappadaptor.o: In function `KateAppAdaptor::openUrl(QString, QString, bool)': [09:33] /home/anders/src/kde/trunk/kde/kdesdk/kate/app/kateappadaptor.cpp:80: undefined reference to `KUrl::KUrl(QString const&)' [09:33] i get > 1500 lines like that === Alpha_Cluster [n=nikkun@bsu195102.bemidjistate.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:34] works for me [09:35] Riddell: i have kde3 devel packages installed [09:35] (but i use them, i think if that is the problem, it is WRONG) [09:35] I do too [09:36] fabo: ping [09:38] Riddell: then, how is your kde4 devel setup? [09:38] our kopete is standard, it just has StylePath=/usr/share/apps/kopete/styles/Clear in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kopeterc [09:38] sredna: svn co; cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4; make [09:38] to paraphrase [09:40] Riddell: you must do somthing that changes your PATH for example [09:41] there's some environment variables here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php [09:41] Riddell: and explain why it doesn't work here. my setup worked in edgy, but not in feisty [09:41] they shouldn't be necessary to compile with though [09:41] there's very little changed in the KDE 4 stuff between edgy and feisty [09:41] Riddell: some binaries form KDEDIR/bin are used during the configure and build, so that can't be true [09:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm afraid I dont get to do that kdesu thing... I have too much work at the moment, and the deadline is probably soon reached (?) [09:43] Riddell: could it be affected by the fact that i am on a 64bit system? [09:43] sredna: I am too [09:44] sredna: try the environment variables on that page and see if that is it [09:44] _StefanS_: beta freeze a week today [09:44] _StefanS_: still worth doing if you manage to find the time (for feisty+1) [09:44] Riddell: i do something exactly similar to that [09:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oh yes, but I would like to have it in feisty :) [09:45] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I will have the deadline in mind, hopefully things wear off.. === vtiger [n=vtiger@port0034-afo-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] Hello [09:46] _StefanS_: don't get yourself fired on our account :) [09:46] hi vtiger [09:46] can I have a little help with a dchroot error? [09:46] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hehe no dont worry, I wont ;) [09:47] vtiger: I've never used dchroot, although you can ask === neutraloss [n=neutralo@rrcs-24-97-98-201.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:49] When I run it with the -d option to get X it throws an error that says chdir: file or folder not found [09:49] No such file or directory [09:49] vtiger: nope, no idea I'm afraid [09:49] vtiger: #ubuntu-motu might know, personally I just use a plain chroot [09:50] Riddell: You use X from the chroot? [09:52] Though you probably debstrapped the chroot anyway === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.138.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sredna gives up === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has left #kubuntu-devel ["godnat,] [10:04] vtiger: yes, debootstrap it and mount -t none -o bind /tmp chroot/tmp [10:05] Riddell: Whoot! got it working [10:07] Riddell: when i want kdebug output, do i simply add --enable-debug=full to DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS or do i need to do more ? [10:07] Muwahahaha back in KDE :) [10:12] toma: that should help, making sure it's turned on in kdebugdialogue too as well of course [10:17] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I was wondering... is there any part of the day you are not working on kubuntu ?? :D [10:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: From what I can see you dont get much sleep hehe === _StefanS_ sips another cup of coffee... === kocheese [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kocheese [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kocheese [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ speculates that Riddell might be a robot [10:28] probably === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso === manchicken [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] Riddell: i've tracked down the suggest problem === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] Riddell: if you agree with the packages i chose to work on ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuTeam/Bugs ) i'd like to post an announcement for kubuntu desktop bugs week. hopefully we can get more people working on kde than we did for hug day :-\ === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] also, any ml's i should post to other than -devel and -testers? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44726.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:37] toma: ooh? [11:38] Riddell: sent a mail to you 3 secs ago [11:38] yuriy: looks great [11:38] yuriy: possibly -devel-announce (but let me proof read before you do) === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-1-75.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:07] Riddell: the installer worked well btw, a lot more stable then last time i tried [12:09] toma: ooh? [12:09] toma: using the packages on kubuntu.org? [12:09] oh, installer [12:09] Riddell: from the herd cd [12:09] toma: did you use the new manual partitioner? [12:10] No, i choose the guided option on my second disk [12:10] s/on/for/ [12:11] toma: just read your e-mail, that all makes sense (although it still seems like a bug) [12:11] thanks for doing that [12:12] you're welcome, glad I could do something [12:12] Riddell: there was one (major) translation error in the installer, is that coming from rosetta? [12:14] toma: it might come from debian-installer, a lot of the strings do [12:14] but not all [12:14] it'll be in rosetta either way