[03:39] <firecrotch> Okay, I have an install that's pretty much the default with Apache, PHP, mySQL... slight problem though... How do I get apache to handle perl scripts properly?
[03:40] <firecrotch> Instead of the script executing, it wants me to download it
[04:28] <GNu_Joe> Where do the ubuntu-server devlopers hang out?
[04:29] <lionel> here and on ubuntu-devel
[04:31] <GNu_Joe> not here, no one ever talks about ubuntu-server
[04:34] <hyrax_> heh. I just tried out ubuntu-server. To me it is a good base install for setting up a desktop where the defaults are not so "ubuntusized"
[04:35] <hyrax_> As a server install though, I saw X and alsa stuff being included in the base install. But man did not get installed.
[04:36] <hyrax_> Not sure why I'd want X and alsa on the type of servers I run. I guess I could trim back the base install some after the fact.
[04:45] <hyrax_> that being said, my install of ubuntu-server was the first unbuntu flavor install that did not annoy me in any way.
[04:46] <hyrax_> and seems to be a solid basis for a GNU/Linux insall
[05:18] <ivoks> X isn't a part of ubuntu-server
[05:19] <ivoks> oh, he left :/
[05:39] <dballester> hi to all
[05:41] <dballester> where can i get info about canonical movements to put ubuntu in the enterprise world? Any roadmap or similar ? Thanks and regards
[06:06] <dballester> I'm trying to install ubuntu-server arch amd64/em64T into one Dell Poweredge 860 ( http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_860?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd ) by now is the second time that install cd ( 2 different burns ) claims that  libiw28 packages is corrupt
[06:06] <dballester> md5sum for the iso image is correct
[06:06] <dballester> any tip ?
[08:07] <yomm>  Is it possible to completely boot off a server ,and run the OS 100% native on the client ? So in other words a diskless ubuntu-box ...Can anyone point me in the right direction ?
[08:09] <GNu_Joe> yomm, edubuntu has that function ( via the LTSP.org )
[08:09] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I have a small spare box , and i Like to store several OS Images on 
[08:10] <yomm> the server , so I can select which one to boot .. Is that possible with Edubuntu/LTSP ?
[08:10] <GNu_Joe> humm not sure
[08:10] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I was under the impression that ltsp was still also not 100% native on the client
[08:10] <ivoks> boot client from server?
[08:11] <ivoks> wihtout a disk?
[08:11] <yomm> ivoks ; yes , but 100% native
[08:11] <yomm> if that is possible :)
[08:11] <GNu_Joe> ya LTSP runs on the server the client is just a terminal
[08:11] <ivoks> 100% native?
[08:12] <ivoks> it's normal linux
[08:12] <GNu_Joe> He wants a BIS
[08:12] <GNu_Joe> Boot Install Server
[08:12] <yomm> ivoks : native in the sense that all aps & processes run on the client not the server
[08:12] <ivoks> yomm: of course
[08:12] <ivoks> yomm: you need dhcp server, tftpd-hpa and ethernet card 
[08:12] <ivoks> i have cluster set up like that
[08:13] <ivoks> all clients (60 of them) boot from network
[08:13] <yomm> ivoks: so tftpd-pha is the package to look at ?
[08:13] <ivoks> they have no disk, but all apps run on client
[08:13] <yomm> ivoks , yes thats what I wwant
[08:13] <ivoks> yomm: yes, it's trivial FTP which serves kernel to clients
[08:14] <ivoks> once client grabs kernel, mounts / over NFS
[08:14] <yomm> ivoks : does it support all OS ?
[08:14] <ivoks> and that's all...
[08:14] <ivoks> yomm: all OS?
[08:15] <yomm> ivoks :would I be able to serve any OS  that would run on the client itself ?
[08:15] <GNu_Joe> yomm, http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/diskless/
[08:15] <ivoks> yomm: if by any you mean redhat, ubuntu, debian, suse, then yes
[08:15] <ivoks> if you want windows, you should talk to guys from redmond
[08:16] <yomm> ivoks : and if by any I mean windows , OpenStep ,& Darwin ?
[08:16] <ivoks> (i highly doubt that's dooable)
[08:17] <yomm> lol , the concept seems simple , just serve a disk to a client  .. but apparently not 
[08:17] <ivoks> it's not that simple
[08:18] <yomm> :/
[08:18] <ivoks> your client has to get an IP, start portmap and nfs client
[08:18] <ivoks> mount network share as /
[08:18] <ivoks> pivot root from ram to mounted system
[08:18] <ivoks> and then continue to boot
[08:18] <yomm> ivoks : I see !
[08:19] <ivoks> that's called PXE boot
[08:19] <ivoks> great way to install ubuntu on lots of computers :)
[08:19] <yomm> ivoks : I heard of that
[08:19] <ivoks> or to manage cluster and not worry about updates on clients
[08:20] <yomm> ivoks , is  tftpd also a pxe variant ?
[08:20] <ivoks> yes
[08:20] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : thanks for the link
[08:20] <GNu_Joe> np
[08:22] <yomm> ivoks : you too , thanks a lot for the information , I'll go fire up my vmware server & start experimenting with tftpd ,I'll probably bug you guys a lil' more later on :)
[08:22] <ivoks> np; i'll give you my bank account :)
[08:22] <yomm> lol
[08:22] <yomm> i'll give you my money 
[08:23] <yomm> <------ as if he has any !
[08:23] <yomm> ;)
[08:31] <yomm> ivoks : would this procedure approach what you described :    http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/linux.html
[08:34] <ivoks> there is more than one way to do it
[08:35] <ivoks> you should use ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <ivoks> http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[08:35] <ivoks> this is about installint ubuntu over network
[08:36] <yomm> ok thx
[08:38] <yomm> lol I'm having soo much fun with Linux :)
[08:41] <ivoks> heh
[08:41] <ivoks> it's not point and click
[08:41] <ivoks> but you can learn a lot
[08:52] <yomm> the clicky path is not necessarily the better :)
[08:52] <ivoks> i agree
[08:52] <yomm> though we all like some eye-candy once in a while :)
[11:45] <AMSmith42> When I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I get a 403 Forbidden. Where should I start?
[11:46] <xenalise> a 403? O_o
[11:46] <AMSmith42> Yes.
[11:46] <AMSmith42> Just a sec. I'll get one of the messages...
[11:46] <mralphab1t> have you been bad?
[11:46] <AMSmith42> All the time, yes.
[11:46] <mralphab1t> heh
[11:48] <AMSmith42> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main [etc]  403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] "
[11:49] <AMSmith42> The "etc" is the package. It has it for all of them.
[11:49] <xenalise> Hmm
[11:50] <AMSmith42> Indeed.
[11:51] <mralphabet> have you changed anything in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:51] <AMSmith42> I just installed ubuntu-server and this was the first thing I tried to do. I also got an error during install regarding not being able to fetch some packages.
[11:51] <AMSmith42> And that I should "investigate this soon" or some-such.
[11:52] <AMSmith42> I have not edited sources.list
[11:52] <mralphabet> did you do a sudo apt-get update? or sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:52] <mralphabet> or is this from aptitude
[11:52] <AMSmith42> This is an apt-get and update does the same thing.
[11:53] <AMSmith42> I don't have any trouble from Kubuntu desktop doing the same sort of thing.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> I can opent the console and sudo apt-get all day long.
[11:54] <mralphabet> and I don't have any trouble from an ubuntu server doing the same thing . . . I just did it no more then 5 mins ago
[11:54] <mralphabet> that's an odd one
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Huh.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Oh, well.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> For another day, I suppose.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Thanks for your help.
[11:55] <AMSmith42> Have a good day.
[11:55] <mralphabet> sorry we couldn't be more help
[11:58] <xenalise> Oh one thing.... is your sources.list okay?
[11:58] <xenalise> Maybe (I doubt it, but better safe then sorry) something could be wrong there?