[12:14] <goblin> anyone from germany here?
[12:14] <NixHex> BluesKaj: yes, but not at a sacrafice of performance
[12:15] <cpk1> goblin: you have an ati or nvidia?
[12:15] <NixHex> BluesKaj: also use the kubuntu satanic edition KDM/splash screen
[12:15] <Schuenemann> !de | goblin
[12:15] <ubotu> goblin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:17] <ferret_0567> I told you all that the X server would crash, and it did
[12:17] <goblin> i have nvidia...
[12:17] <ferret_0567> Let me look up the bug...
[12:18] <BluesKaj> NixHex, major graphics card , then
[12:18] <ferret_0567> btw, is there a way to make Konqueror faster for web browsing? It's slow
[12:18] <NixHex> BluesKaj: I have a Nvidia 7300 GS 256MB PCI-E x16 card
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> ferret, yes, you have to disable IPv6
[12:19] <goblin> but i don't really know how to install the drivers XD windows was really easy but i'll try to install the drivers.........
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> ther is a guide somewhere
[12:19] <ferret_0567> I don
[12:19] <ferret_0567> I don't even use IPv6
[12:20] <ferret_0567> I have IPv6 enabled though
[12:20] <ferret_0567> Heres the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/xorg-server/+bug/61746
[12:20] <NixHex> BluesKaj:Though I would like to get a Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS 320mb card...
[12:21] <ferret_0567> No Ubugtu in here...
[12:21] <Balsamic_Chicken> anyone play oblivion, got a question here
[12:21] <ferret_0567> But there you go
[12:21] <goblin> what is ubugtu? (sorry i'm an linux noob, i have linux since 2 hours)
[12:21] <ferret_0567> This is the description: Xorg exits when it receives an ACPI button/lid event, (Confirmed, High)
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> interesting... does't happen to me
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> doesn;t mean it doesn't happen though
[12:22] <ferret_0567> It's just a computer program that is in the #ubuntu+1 channel plus other Ubuntu channels, it gives you a automatic description of a Ubuntu bug report
[12:23] <ferret_0567> I don't want to use the unofficial fix posted there.
[12:24] <ferret_0567> X server does crash when it sees a certain event from acpid
[12:25] <ferret_0567> Heres the bug at freedesktop.org: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8776
[12:25] <goblin> so i must disconnect, my girlfriend is waiting for me, gn8 all
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> bye
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> enjoy linux
[12:26] <goblin> i will ;)
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Where is the option in Kopete to show only online buddies?
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> I believe it is one of the buttons on the top toolbar
[12:26] <ferret_0567> I'm happy that you got Linux working, goblin
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Oh, that did it
[12:26] <ferret_0567> Thanks
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ferret_0567, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:27] <ferret_0567> lol, it was right infront of my face, so close, I didn't even notice it
[12:27] <ferret_0567> Do you use KTorrent with DHT and Skype without IPv6 successfully?
[12:28] <ferret_0567> That's the only thing
[12:28] <goblin> i've just wanted to know what linux is i have this fucking windows vista but i don't like it and after the installation of Ubuntu i'll change all my systems to Linux........ i love it..........
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> I think so...
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> !language | goblin
[12:29] <ubotu> goblin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:29] <crispim> hi
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> goblin: that language won't float around here, although we also mostly think the same about vista.
[12:30] <ferret_0567> Yeah, mostly wer think the same thing about Vista, but please, watch your language
[12:30] <Schuenemann> Vista = Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if vmware is going to release their accelerated graphics support version for linux.
[12:30] <ferret_0567> Yup
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> I hope they do... id didn't know they had that
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> I would love to be able to play Longbow2 w/o booting to XP.
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> nosrednaekim: so far just for MAC, and it's beta.
[12:31] <ferret_0567> My friend said something similar, to that effect, what Vista really meant. Look at badvista.org
[12:31] <goblin> sorry i forgot to watch for my language...........so bye
[12:31] <ferret_0567> When I said "...what Vista really meant...", I meant the name
[12:32] <ferret_0567> But, there's what evil stuff Vista has in store for you at badvista.org
[12:32] <LeeJunFan> I had to install the same piece of hardware on 2 vista machines, same driver exact same piece of hardware, worked on the e-machine, the HP choked on it.
[12:33] <ferret_0567> ha! What about Ubuntu Linux, same hardware, same driver, different machines?
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> Had to start the installer, let it unpack the files, go find the temp dir it created and told vista to look there for the driver, and it was fine. How one vista works perfect, and the other doesn't find the drive I don't know.
[12:34] <ferret_0567> Hey, a wallpaper for me and you: http://badvista.fsf.org/blog/what-vista-stands-for-as-wallpaper
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> Vista is kind of neat because it's new, other than that it's rather boring, especially compared to beryl on Linux.
[12:35] <ferret_0567> yeah, nothing really special
[12:35] <ferret_0567> And Windows Sideshow, please, you know it's going to only work with Windows, atleast for a short while.
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> It's also that new stuff that makes it so annoying, they moved so much around that things you expect to find in the old place are not there any more. And there really wasn't a reason to change much of it, except that their goal of course was to give it the illusion of being something so different.
[12:36] <Schuenemann> "Requires Windows 98 or better" --> So I installed Linux
[12:36] <ferret_0567> But, seriously, Linux needs something like Quartz Extreme
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> It's more like a car where all the dashboard controls are now in the trunk, you have to get out and go look in the trunk to turn on the windshield wipers.
[12:36] <ferret_0567> lol
[12:36] <hatta> why?
[12:36] <hatta> linux has more than enough gui toolkits
[12:37] <LeeJunFan> No, what linux really has more than enough of is package managers.
[12:37] <hatta> and text editors
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> and flame fests...
[12:37] <hatta> well actually, you can never have too many text editors
[12:37] <Schuenemann> and clever text editors
[12:38] <Schuenemann> not stupid notepad and wordpad
[12:38] <hatta> yeah, but I don't like my editor to be more clever than me
[12:38] <hatta> that's why I use vim and not emacs
[12:38] <Schuenemann> that's why you have a lot
[12:38] <tarnold> i just use kate
[12:38] <tarnold> whats the diff?
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> me too... kate rocks
[12:38] <Schuenemann> syntax highlighting is nice
[12:38] <Schuenemann> sometimes I don't want to load a full IDE just to see a program file
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> *flamewar is about to begin*
[12:39] <ferret_0567> And, Vista has so many new features, and you can't remove whatever you want, and have only the features that M$ allows you to have for your particular Edition of Vista, so, Vista just makes your computer slow
[12:39] <tarnold> so what is teh diff between kate and OO.owriter
[12:39] <Schuenemann> is that new? I can't remove IE, outlook and a whole bunch of crap on XP either
[12:39] <hatta> OO is a word processor, kate's a text editor
[12:39] <NixHex> err. kcheckmail doesn't want to work
[12:39] <jarn> And OO.o writer takes forever to open.
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> Of course linux is also like a car where the graphics drivers are aftermarket superchargers with underdrive pulleys. You have to go to the store to get it, use get familiar with tools to install it, and then it doesn't perform as well as the windows gfx drivers. hehe.
[12:40] <reldruh> tarnold: OO.o also doesn't integrate very well with kde. You might look into kword instead of OO.o. They have a lot of the same functionality
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> no...in my experience, kword doesn't not handle .docs very well at all
[12:41] <jarn> reldruh: Can kword open Word files like OO.o can? I really do not like OO.o but I've been using it for that.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> but its getting beter
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> does kword save to .doc yet?
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> no...
[12:41] <hatta> abiword is nice
[12:41] <jarn> Then it's OO.o for me.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> yeah..I don't like OO very much either
[12:42] <hatta> if you need interoperability with word try abiword
[12:42] <hatta> otherwise use LaTeX
[12:42] <reldruh> kword on my system gives me the option to save as a microsoft word document, and explicitly says that the extension is .doc...
[12:42] <hatta> that's what I do at least
[12:42] <tarnold> earlier i opened kate cos it was quicker to laod but then i copied the text to writer so i could save as windows to take it to school
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> it does?what version are you using?
[12:42] <reldruh> I've never used it like that before so I can't speak to how good it is but the option very much appears to be there
[12:42] <reldruh> 1.6.2, the newest one
[12:42] <reldruh> just released a few weeks ago, I thnk
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> right..I'm still stuck in 1.5
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> is 1.6 in the repos yet?
[12:43] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: upgrade? It's just a matter of adding one line to sources.list
[12:43] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: no, you have add a specific repo for it
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> oh..ok...
[12:43] <nosrednaekim>  its that the kde one?
[12:44] <Schuenemann> how do I upgrade to KDE 3.5.6?
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> I'll check into it
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> the MOTD says its in the repos
[12:44] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-162 edgy main
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> thanks...
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> or upgrade to feisty :)
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> not yet!!
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> bah, woos.
[12:44] <tarnold> who uses the kontact suite or anyother organizer? i need to get way more organized
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> I used it
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: add the line deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-256 edgy main to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> its pretty sweet especially with Kmail integration
[12:45] <reldruh> tarnold: I use it
[12:45] <reldruh> and yeah, kmail is great
[12:45] <Schuenemann> reldruh, what is the 256?
[12:45] <jarn> I like to add lists for specific programs in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:45] <tarnold> cos i have yahoo mail
[12:45] <jarn> That way I can maintain the base list.
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: sorry, that should have been 356
[12:45] <reldruh> Schuenemann: as in 3.5.6
[12:46] <Schuenemann> hmmm no xx.ubuntu.com ... ?
[12:46] <reldruh> Schuenemann: no, that's the right line. It's at kubuntu.org
[12:46] <Schuenemann> thx
[12:47] <reldruh> I _hate_ the error messages that make spits out. Sometimes I think they don't even count as error messages they're so useless
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: actually it's probably gcc spitting those out, make doesn't really do much by itself except call other programs.
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> or libtool
[12:48] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: whatever is spitting them out has the brunt of my ire directed at it right now. it's very frustrating
[12:49] <reldruh> I really don't have any idea what stopped my build
[12:49] <ramzG> hi all
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: it can be confusing. Compiling really isn't fun for people who don't know the language they are compiling, and/or how the compiler works.
[12:51] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: it certainly doesn't help
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Does Konqueror have a DNS cache?
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: what are you compiling? if you pastebin the output I can try to see what's messing it up.
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Some website said it didn't, but that may be an old page, for an old Konqueror
[12:51] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: I'm building kdebase for kde4. It got to 2% before stopping
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: ugh, are you a developer? I wouldn't want to get into kde4 yet.
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> haha besides kde4 doesn't even use make.. it uses Cmake
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> nosrednaekim: doh, that's right.
[12:53] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: a very new and inexperienced one. I'm a computer science student and want to help out with the pim stuff for kde4, so I'm building it
[12:53] <ferret_0567> I'm going to reboot because I'm disabling IPv6, k?
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> well..ok
[12:53] <ferret_0567> I'll be rebooting in a few min.
[12:53] <excelsior|afk> I got a problem earlier in the evening, my kernel froze. I suppose that was skype which make me froze, but i'm unsure if it's possible
[12:53] <excelsior|afk> someone know something about that ?
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: you should be able to do what you need if you isntall the kde4 packages Riddell has on kubuntu.org, with the dev packages, or better yet use his src packages to build from.
[12:54] <reldruh> nosrednaekim: it's true that it uses cmake to build, but that doesn't mean that make and make install don't have to be run
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah I know... but its alot more different
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> excelcior: it has to do with skype and sound
[12:54] <ferret_0567> Well...ath_pci caused a freeze for me, all I had to do was move the wireless card to the bottom PCMCIA Cardbus slot, and unplug the card at night
[12:55] <excelsior|afk> nosrednaekim: any hint to avoit that freeze ?
[12:55] <excelsior|afk> *avoid
[12:55] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: I've tried those and had some issues with them. And I wanted to learn a bit more abou kde4 so I'm trying it on my own
[12:55] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: do you still want to look at my output?
[12:55] <ferret_0567> I had a soft-lockup, that was the exact type of freeze. I waited, and then it cleared itself up, but for only that one time
[12:55] <Kr4t05> Hey, I tried to manually install Java from Sun's website, and I now want to remove it and reinstall it via apt, how do I completely remove the Java I installed before? Delete the directory?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> excelcior, how long did you let it sit before hard powering off?
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I'm rebooting now
[12:56] <excelsior|afk> err, maybe 5 minutes
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: probably wouldn't help much, I'm pretty know-nothing when it comes to C++, I'm much more comfortable with C.
[12:56] <excelsior|afk> I don't know exactly
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I had to wait about 5 min.
[12:56] <ferret_0567> I would let it go for longer
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> reldruh: I gotta run out for a bit anyway.
[12:56] <ferret_0567> bye
[12:56] <reldruh> LeeJunFan: all right, thanks anyway
[12:56] <ferret_0567> bye for now
[12:56] <ferret_0567> rebooting...
[12:56] <Zaphar_work> K3B burns DVD's at a max of 1.6x estimated speed even with 8x media on a drive capable of 16x dvd recording. Is this normal? It also bogs down the system.
[12:57] <ferret_0567> Definetly not
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> excelcior: it freezes everytime someone trys to message me on skype
[12:58] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: that shouldnt happen
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> but only for a minute at most
[12:58] <Zaphar_work> coreymon77: is there something I can check to track down the problem?
[12:58] <looris> i'm using kubuntu edgy, and, well, konsole background transparency does not work. Transparency works in menus and in title bars, so it's not a driver problem. What could i do?
[12:58] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: i dont really know, all i know is that is not normal
[12:58] <Zaphar_work> hrmmm
[12:59] <excelsior|afk> I'm sure it was longer for me. I spent some time to find a sata wire to plug my new hard drive
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> well have you had any problems with it since?
[12:59] <coreymon77> looris: what happens
[12:59] <coreymon77> ?
[01:00] <levy> I've installed Kubuntu but i did'n find the us international driver for the keyboard
[01:00] <excelsior|afk> not until that time, I even has been called and it worked well
[01:01] <excelsior|afk> *have
[01:01] <looris> coreymon77: if i select a transparent theme, it is simply white on black, with no tint
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> coreymon77: has anyone else reported this problem? I can't find anything on launchpad or google about it
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> ok..wel then don't worry about it
[01:01] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to remove Java when installed manually?
[01:01] <Schuenemann> reldruh, says signatures couldn't be verified
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> and system logs are reporting anything that looks related
[01:01] <excelsior|afk> I worry that it could produce again
[01:01] <Zaphar_work> aren't*
[01:01] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, remove the installation directory
[01:01] <reldruh> Schuenemann: that's OK, tell it to keep going (that's what I did anyway)
[01:02] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: That's it? No references I need to remove?
[01:02] <coreymon77> Zaphar_work: i dont really know
[01:02] <excelsior|afk> -produce+happen
[01:02] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, what did you change?
[01:02] <coreymon77> looris: have you tried all the different transparent schemes?
[01:02] <Zaphar_work> hrmmm I wonder if there is a k3b channel :-)
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> I'm sure there is
[01:02] <coreymon77> ill check
[01:03] <Zaphar_work> yep there is
[01:03] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: I made simlinks in my PATH to the binarys in my installation folder, that's it.
[01:03] <Schuenemann> Kr4t05, I guess only the directory, environment variables (if you set) and maybe update-alternatives entries
[01:03] <Zaphar_work> but it looks pretty much empty no help there
[01:03] <Schuenemann> why did you install it manually?
[01:03] <Kr4t05> S
[01:04] <Kr4t05> Schuenemann: I was trying to patch Java 6 manually, so I could run Java apps in Beryl.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> is it JDK or JRE?
[01:04] <Kr4t05> JRE
[01:04] <Schuenemann> you can install java 6 from the repositories
[01:04] <Kr4t05> Eh, don't worry about that, I gave up and decided to use drop Frostwire in favor of Phex.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> well, remove the directory and the links, then
[01:04] <Kr4t05> That's most of the reason why I was attempting it.
[01:04] <ramzG> getting troubles with kubuntu and sonyericsson z710 - i cant use it as modem through USB ((
[01:05] <ramzG> can anybody help?
[01:05] <HaSH> !eol
[01:05] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[01:05] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Did you install bitpim?
[01:05] <looris> coreymon77: i had tried them all, now i've noticd you can edit them, and looks like they are simply badly configured: they are configured not to be transparent at all!! and if i try to edit them to enable transparency, that option is ignored
[01:05] <ramzG> Kr4t05: what is it? i'm newbee to linux ))) i use macos for 7 years - its very simple ((
[01:06] <Kr4t05> ubotu: info bitpim > ra
[01:06] <Kr4t05> ubotu: info bitpim > ramzG
[01:06] <Kr4t05> Eh...
[01:06] <coreymon77> looris: ask somebody else, i realy do not know
[01:06] <looris> what a pity
[01:07] <looris> well if somebody else knows what's happening, please let me know : )
[01:07] <ramzG> Kr4t05: its not CDMA, it's GSM phone %/
[01:07] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[01:07] <Schuenemann> reldruh, 80 MB download... I hope you know what you told me to do :D
[01:07] <reldruh> Schuenemann: you're not on dialup are you?
[01:07] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Did you check the forums? Their may be a howto.
[01:07] <reldruh> Schuenemann: you're upgrading the whole of kde, 80megs is a bargain
[01:08] <Schuenemann> reldruh, no... a crappy 600 Kbps
[01:08] <ramzG> Kr4t05: i tried throuth bluetooth - succsesssfully once (((( after disconnecting i cant connect again (
[01:08] <reldruh> Schuenemann: dude, you really get 600kbps? I get 200 max
[01:08] <Schuenemann> but I was talk about the changes that will make
[01:08] <Schuenemann> hopefully it won't mess everything
[01:08] <reldruh> oh, trust me it's worth it
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi ppl..  how do I install a .ktheme file ?
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> i found a cool theme and want to install ir
[01:08] <ferret_0567> IPv6 seems disabled after doing that "Disable IPv6" guide, except:
[01:08] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ ip a | grep inet6
[01:08] <ferret_0567> inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[01:08] <ferret_0567> inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fea0:1d77/64 scope link
[01:08] <LaNCeloT_RW> it*
[01:08] <Schuenemann> reldruh, no, 600 Kbps...
[01:09] <Schuenemann> reldruh, I get a max of 60 KBps
[01:09] <reldruh> mmm
[01:09] <reldruh> I see
[01:09] <reldruh> it's worth it, I promise
[01:09] <Schuenemann> hehe
[01:09] <ferret_0567> ath0 has that inet6 addr...
[01:10] <ferret_0567> Hmm.,..as to why the DNS resolving process is still faster, I dunno
[01:10] <ramzG> Kr4t05: afaik the trouble is that kubuntu cant see GSM modem through USB....
[01:10] <ferret_0567> There shouldn't be IPv6 addresses at all, I rebooted
[01:10] <Schuenemann> reldruh, how fast is yours? how many Mbps?
[01:10] <ferret_0567> Is that really still OK?
[01:11] <Kr4t05> ramzG: Hrm... I hate to drop you like this, but I can't seem to find anything out.
[01:11] <Joshooa> Hey, I have a Kubuntu DVD iso image, and when I go into K3b to burn it, it recognizes it as an ISO, but when I want to burn it, it says it's not a valid ISO Image
[01:13] <looris> oh, well, after the update and a restart it worked, maybe it was a bug that has been corrected
[01:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi ppl..  how do I install a .ktheme file ?
[01:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> i found a cool theme and want to install it
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> "alt+f2" enter kcontrol and go to apearnaces and thems, then go to theme manager
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> ^^^for lancelot
[01:14] <Joshooa> Anyway I can check to see if the iso image is valid? I've burnt it before and it didn't give me the error, it just failed burning it
[01:14] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, which theme is it?
[01:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, http://www.skinbase.org/rate.php?skins=4643
[01:15] <ferret_0567> How do I tell the atheros modules that I don't want IPv6 on it's interfaces?
[01:16] <Schuenemann> seems cool
[01:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, which is the extension of accepted themes by Kde?
[01:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, yes... and I'd like to install it :-)
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> kthem I think
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> *.ktheme
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> ferret_0567: it shouldn't hurt to leave ipv6 on, I've never had to disable it on about the 100 kubuntu installs I've done.
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> makes konqueror slow though
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> I think there is a fix just for konqueror though
[01:17] <ferret_0567> It makes Konqueror slow, and I said that I didn't want it in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[01:18] <ferret_0567> It should NOT be on
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> I just use firefox... problem fixed
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I explictily stated that
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> ferret_0567: yeah, you're right if it's off in modules it should be off systemwide.
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I know
[01:18] <ferret_0567> I changed it through there
[01:20] <ferret_0567> With this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> well is webbrowsing any faster now?
[01:20] <ferret_0567> I think so...
[01:20] <ferret_0567> I think I should test more
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> well then don't worry about it because you may want IPv6 sometime in the futoure
[01:20] <ferret_0567> Uh, no, it's not
[01:21] <ferret_0567> It's not faster on Google, amazingly, it's faster on other sites
[01:21] <ferret_0567> Some other sites
[01:21] <ferret_0567> like albinoblacksheep
[01:21] <ramzG> got it
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> well maybe google is using Ipv6?
[01:23] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, the extension of themes are .kth
[01:23] <LaNCeloT_RW> =)
[01:23] <ferret_0567> I don't know what to make of it, that change might actually impact stability since the Atheros drivers *want* IPv6
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> oh... you got atheros working?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> congrats!! I never could
[01:24] <ferret_0567> Yeah
[01:24] <ferret_0567> D-Link DWL-G650 PCMCIA Cardbus card with linux-restricted-modules, works like a charm
[01:24] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, is it working?
[01:26] <ferret_0567> I'm going to enable IPv6 again
[01:26] <ferret_0567> brb, too\
[01:27] <dsmith> question: does linux require any sort of DST 207 update?
[01:27] <dsmith> DST 2007
[01:28] <eigentard> I've got kubuntu finally up and running, everything works well
[01:28] <eigentard> but.... now what? :|
[01:28] <Schuenemann> now you remove windows
[01:28] <dsmith> eigentard: congrats.. :)
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> dsmith...I don't think so, not for the normal home user
[01:28] <dsmith> eigentard: now learn what other programs you can use, instead of windoze
[01:29] <eigentard> how do I go about getting better accustomed to the konsole?
[01:29] <Daniwan> Does anyone in here know how to auth a linux user from c/c++ code?
[01:29] <dsmith> nosrednaekim: hmmm, ok....
[01:29] <dsmith> eigentard: you just do
[01:29] <Schuenemann> windoze?
[01:30] <dsmith> Schuenemann: would you prefer I say bILLY wArEZ?
[01:30] <Schuenemann> what does that mean? windoze
[01:30] <dsmith> WINDOZE= "wINDOWS"
[01:30] <dsmith> linux = *nix
[01:30] <Schuenemann> but why the doze?
[01:30] <dsmith> Doze..."boring"
[01:30] <dsmith> :P
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> cause its lazy
[01:31] <Schuenemann> ahh :p
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> and stupid
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> that too
[01:31] <dsmith> exactly, lazy lame OS
[01:31] <dsmith> haha
[01:31] <Schuenemann> hehe
[01:32] <eigentard> so like
[01:32] <eigentard> are there any important programs or updates or anything I should get?
[01:32] <Schuenemann> what do you use your computer for?
[01:32] <dsmith> sure, make sure kubuntu is up to date
[01:33] <dsmith> what version are you? dapper?? Edgy??
[01:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, the theme i showed you? or .kth theme files?
[01:33] <eigentard> edgy
[01:33] <Schuenemann> that one
[01:33] <dsmith> ahhh 6.10, make sure its updatd them
[01:33] <eigentard> how can I make it so that I can view my NTFS partitions on linux?
[01:33] <dsmith> ..updated then
[01:33] <dsmith> hmmmmm
[01:33] <dsmith> anyone?
[01:33] <Schuenemann> wasn't it automatically mounted?
[01:34] <Schuenemann> go to /media
[01:34] <BluesKaj> i have a  friend who installed ubuntu edgy , but wants to install KDE ..."sudo apt-get install kde" ?
[01:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, man, i couldnt install that... because it has a .ktheme file and I dont know how to install it
[01:34] <dsmith> BluesKaj yes
[01:34] <BluesKaj> ok , just wanna make sure
[01:34] <dsmith> you still will have ubuntu though
[01:34] <dsmith> you pick it when you first login
[01:35] <dsmith> just install kubuntu fresh
[01:35] <dell190_> i need to use a sudo command to mount mine
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> actually, i'd like to install a 3D window manager... like beryl
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> BlueKaj... might be better to do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> but i could install it.. =/
[01:35] <Schuenemann> I upgraded to KDE 3.5.6, what happens to the KDE 3.5.5 packages I had?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> lancelot: go to the ubuntu-effects channel for help with beryl
[01:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> my Kubuntu is 64 Bits.. and I didnt found the correct packages
[01:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> nosrednaekim, i'll try
[01:36] <dsmith> BlueKaj: Sorry, nosrednaekim is correct I was wrong
[01:36] <dsmith> :)
[01:36] <Schuenemann> brb
[01:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> ok
[01:37] <ferret_0567> When you install kubuntu-desktop, make sure not to install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[01:37] <dsmith> uspash?
[01:37] <dsmith> why
[01:37] <Daniwan> Anyone in here a coder of kubuntu?
[01:37] <ferret_0567> That's if you were previously using Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:37] <dsmith> oh ok
[01:39] <ferret_0567> Because dsmith, if you install it, you will have Xubuntu/Ubuntu splash on startup, and Kubuntu splash on shutdown, or vice versa or other weird behavior.
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> lol wtf, stupid nickserv says someone else owns this nick
[01:39] <ferret_0567> If you want Kubuntu usplash, uninstall the other one.
[01:40] <ferret_0567> I have Ubuntu's with most of kubuntu-desktop installed
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> I did not have that probelm when I installed ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <BluesKaj> ok , thx , i corrected my advice to my friend as well
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> I just told it to use Kdm
[01:41] <ferret_0567> I don't have KDM, either, since KDE is fully compatible with GDM
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[01:42] <ferret_0567> If you want, you can use kdm
[01:42] <ferret_0567> If you want both GNOME and KDE, then gdm
[01:42] <ferret_0567> In other words, just use GDM for all desktop enviroments because it's very compatibile :D
[01:43] <neoncode> Is it possible to Virtulise a copy of Win98 useing Linux?
[01:43] <ferret_0567> Yes
[01:43] <neoncode> Good
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> ok, I use, Kdm with gnome...nothing breaks...
[01:43] <ferret_0567> VMWare, QEmu, Bochs, etc. VMWare is best.
[01:43] <ferret_0567> ok then
[01:44] <neoncode> ferret_0567: Thanks
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> unless you have a CPU with virtualization support in which case qemu with KVM is best
[01:44] <neoncode> Didn't Fiesty have some kind of Virtulisation built in? And what about Xen?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> fiesty has KVM, with Qemu as a frontend
[01:44] <ferret_0567> Or Xen with CPU wirh virtualization support is also good
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> yeah..I heard that Xen got that too
[01:45] <ferret_0567> I would try KVM
[01:45] <ferret_0567> Xen is a different Linux kernel with Xen hypervisor = different kernel modules needed, like for NVIDIA graphics
[01:45] <neoncode> RIght. And The Core 2 Duo chips have virulisation support right?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> as well as the AMD turion X2s
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> and AM2 desktop chips
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> I have a turion X2
[01:46] <neoncode> Ok, thanks. I don't actualy have a core 2 right now but should be getting one soon so I'll try it then. Thank you everyone. =3
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> NP
[01:47] <Fizzbane> When I boot my windows i get an error NTLDR missing. to my knowledge that is the windows boot loader. How do I put NTLDR onto my windows hd without changing anything on my linux hd?
[01:49] <jarn> Uhh... In konqueror, it apparently is "unable to start the cookie handler service"
[01:50] <Schuenemann> after I install KDE 3.5.6, what happens to all the KDE 3.5.5 packages? do I have to remove them?
[01:50] <ferret_0567> Most likely, I believe
[01:50] <ferret_0567> 3.5.6 is just a security update, right?
[01:51] <ferret_0567> If so, you don't need it
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> no there are some new features
[01:51] <Schuenemann> security? I guess not
[01:51] <looris> mmmh i'm trying to set transparent windows, but it doesn't seem to work: they are simply not transparent at all
[01:51] <flaccid> !hotkeys
[01:51] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB
[01:51] <ferret_0567> You need AIGLX, and NVIDIA
[01:52] <looris> is it possible to do that, or not?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> in kde? you need to composite extention in the xorg
[01:52] <ferret_0567> Yes, on NVIDIA with Ubuntu 6.10
[01:52] <Number2> How do I set directory permissions on a folder that I create, I want to make a folder and have it readable and writeable by the user group
[01:52] <ferret_0567> You need to get a upgraded NVIDIA driver, and enable AIGLX
[01:52] <looris> oh, so it won't work with an ati? :/
[01:53] <ferret_0567> I don't think so
[01:53] <looris> what a pity
[01:53] <ferret_0567> It depends on the graphics card model and driver
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> looris, you'll need XGL to do trnasparency with ATI
[01:53] <mjunx> well, doesn't the open source radeon driver work with composite? for the cards it supports 3d with?
[01:53] <ferret_0567> There are two possible drivers for ATI and NVIDIA on Linux
[01:53] <Number2> How do I set directory permissions on a folder that I create, I want to make a folder and have it readable and writeable by the user group
[01:54] <ferret_0567> I dunno
[01:54] <ferret_0567> Never used ATI
[01:54] <looris> ooh. well it's a very old card in a laptop, a ati rage mobility m3....
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> mjunx: yes it does
[01:54] <ferret_0567> ok, will it work guys?
[01:54] <ferret_0567> I dunno
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> #2: right click on it konqueror, properties, permissions
[01:54] <looris> well, so i'll try to install xserver-xgl and see what happens?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> rage mobility? my rage 128 worked
[01:55] <flaccid> dang hotkeys rox
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> its a bit harder than that
[01:55] <ferret_0567> And XGL has problems
[01:55] <mjunx> looris, are you using edgy?
[01:55] <looris> mjunx: yes
[01:55] <mjunx> then I thought you could just use stock xserver-xorg since that has composite
[01:55] <ferret_0567> XGL is just to see that cube spin. AIGLX is that for when you actually want to USE your computer.
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> no...thats not correct
[01:56] <mjunx> compiz and beryl are the cube spin things, ferret
[01:56] <looris> mjunx: oh, so... i'm afraid i don't know what "composite" is, but i'll try to find out
[01:56] <ferret_0567> With some apps, XGL is not compatible
[01:56] <mjunx> xgl was originally a composite-enabled xserver
[01:56] <ferret_0567> I know that mjunx
[01:56] <mjunx> but xorg has its own composite thing now, right?
[01:56] <ferret_0567> It's that XGL itself does not support some apps
[01:56] <ferret_0567> Like Audacious, I've hear
[01:56] <ferret_0567> ...I've heard
[01:56] <mjunx> right, so you can try using xorg's
[01:57] <ferret_0567> AIGLX works fine
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> looris, you might try looking up a totorial on getting composite in atis
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> *ATI's
[01:57] <ferret_0567> ...with Audacious and otherds
[01:57] <ferret_0567> others*
[01:58] <ferret_0567> I've used AIGLX before,  and I have the latest NVIDIA driver compatible with my card
[01:58] <looris> nosrednaekim: well i'm searching google for this "composite"..
[01:58] <premier_> hello.  Im trying to get my computer to hibernate.  One of the usb device prevents it from hiberanating, something about returing -16.  Can anyone help me?
[01:58] <premier_> I says the the usb device 5-1.4 is the source.  how can I figure out which usb device that is?  lsusb and lspci dont give that information
[01:58] <mjunx> if aiglx is the xorg composite extension, then I've used that on an i915GMA (or whatever the acronym is), and it worked fine with beryl (both emerald and aquamarine)
[01:59] <mjunx> premier_, have you tried unplugging and plugging in devices until it works? :P
[01:59] <looris> well looks like libxcomposite1 is already installed
[02:00] <premier_> mjunx: yeah, but it seems that every device can cause it
[02:00] <ferret_0567> That doesn't matter, you have to enable AIGLX
[02:00] <mjunx> looris, composite is the extension you need to enable in xorg so that you can use beryl or compiz
[02:00] <DuncanF> Anyone know why my screensaver would preview and test fine, but when it goes into the actual screensaver is just displays a black screen?
[02:00] <mjunx> although, I have it enabled right now, but I'm just using kwin, so whatever >_>
[02:00] <premier_> mjunx: also, before when I hibernated and it failed, it delivered me back to my screen saver, but now it just sits there with a black screen.
[02:01] <premier_> mjunx: when I unplug everything it works
[02:01] <mjunx> hmm, my guess is some IRQ conflicts or something related to IRQs, so I don't really have any advice, sorry :/
[02:01] <looris> mjunx, ferret_0567: oh, pardon me if i don't know these programs, but in the last N years i've been using linux only on servers....
[02:01] <mjunx> looris, that's alright, I learnt about composite only recently anyhow :)
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> did you try restarting kde when you made your transparency changes?
[02:01] <ferret_0567> I know upgrading the NVIDIA drivers to the latest compatible with your card, and enabling AIGLX, which requires Composite, will work
[02:02] <mjunx> and composite is a concept, not a program :)
[02:02] <ferret_0567> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[02:02] <ferret_0567> I think that will work
[02:02] <looris> nosrednaekim: yeah i have restarted it
[02:02] <mjunx> worked for me
[02:03] <looris> ferret_0567: thanks i was already reading that site ;)
[02:03] <Joshooa> Hey I need help
[02:03] <ferret_0567> Another page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy?highlight=%28AIGLX%29
[02:03] <Joshooa> It says my drive is 100% used, and 7.1/7.3GB are used, that's not 100%
[02:04] <mjunx> 5% is reserved for root, Joshooa
[02:04] <Joshooa> And the only way I got booted up, somehow, is in Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, and i have no idea why
[02:04] <Joshooa> But that's still not 100% used
[02:04] <mjunx> some programs write logs too, and that's hard to do when you don't have any space left ;p
[02:04] <mjunx> so they segfault
[02:05] <Joshooa> And I couldn't delete anything or even read man before
[02:05] <mjunx> no, but it's at least 95% used, and you can't write anymore without root permissions
[02:05] <premier_> mjunx: I also tried to suspend a couple of times, but it cant get it to resume: it doesnt respond to my keyboard or anything, even the power button
[02:05] <Joshooa> and I did a reboot, and it would go into Kubuntu, and I would enter my name and pw, and it would start to log in, then go back to the login screen
[02:05] <mjunx> yeah, I know that problem, man renders and caches the page, but if it has nowhere to store it...
[02:05] <Joshooa> I have root permissions, and there is NOT that much stuff on the drive
[02:05] <Joshooa> I was 100% full and deleted a DVD image, 3.98 GB, and still 100% full
[02:06] <mjunx> try a fsck then
[02:06] <curtis> hello all.  Does anyone run Icecast?
[02:06] <mjunx> oh, yeah, definitely fsck it
[02:06] <Joshooa> but that was before the reboot, before it didn't go down to 7.1GB either
[02:06] <Joshooa> heh
[02:06] <BluesKaj> is KDE or kubuntu-desktop in the default repos in ubuntu ?
[02:06] <Joshooa> small font looks like you are saying something else
[02:06] <mjunx> BluesKaj, yeah
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> jooshua you have to delete the dvd image out of trash
[02:06] <mjunx> oh, did you rm it or use the gui?
[02:07] <mjunx> forgot about that nasty trash thing
[02:07] <DuncanF> heh
[02:07] <Joshooa> It may cause SEVERE filesystem damage if I do this
[02:07] <Joshooa> not severe, SEVERE
[02:07] <Joshooa> First I used the trash bin, then I couldn't empty the trash
[02:07] <mjunx> uh, you can't do fsck on a mounted drive
[02:07] <Joshooa> then I used rm
[02:07] <DuncanF> speaking of the GUI, I can't seem to get any scripts to run from the GUI, have to do it through terminal, is there a simple way to do that?
[02:07] <Joshooa> well, it's my only Linux drive that has the problem
[02:07] <mjunx> well, you can't fix the problems while it's mounted at least
[02:08] <Joshooa> ugh
[02:08] <easytiger> DuncanF: what can't you do
[02:08] <mjunx> DuncanF, Alt-F2
[02:08] <Joshooa> All I want to do is get my Kubuntu DVD burnt and reinstall everything anyway
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> you need to go to /home/yourusername/.trash
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> and delete it
[02:08] <Joshooa> but I can't download it cause my disk is 100% full for some unknown reason
[02:08] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: Already did
[02:08] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: Nothing is in there
[02:08] <looris> well, as far as i've read now, Rage cards are not supported at all, neither by aiglx nor by xgl :/
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[02:08] <looris> i suppose they are too old or too lame
[02:08] <mjunx> uh, I think the trash is in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Joshooa: try sudo apt-get clean  to clean out any deb packages in the cache
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> what about /root/.trash
[02:09] <Joshooa> See, I was like, 80% full, send the image to the trash bin, and some other smaller stuff, and then bam, 100% full, too fu ll to delete or empty trash
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> is it?
[02:09] <DuncanF> easytiger, mjunx: It's a scrip with conditions for running a binary file, and I was trying to get it to run as a taskbar icon
[02:09] <mjunx> Joshooa, do "sudo du -sch /*" to see what's using space
[02:09] <Joshooa> I think that worked, but I didn't sudo cause I'm logged in as root for some readn
[02:09] <mjunx> DuncanF, well, that's a job for .desktop files!
[02:09] <Joshooa> reason*
[02:10] <mjunx> well, once you find out which directories are taking up space, do du -sch on the directories in there and so on
[02:10] <Joshooa> lib is biggest so far at 190M
[02:10] <mjunx> oh, don't delete anything in /bin, /sbin, /etc, or /lib
[02:10] <mjunx> big no-no
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Joshooa I found where trash is, its in /home/.Trash-0
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Joshooa: don't start deleting system files :)
[02:11] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: The trash is already empty, I already did that
[02:11] <mjunx> I also found the trash in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[02:11] <Joshooa> nosrednaekim: I don't know why it thinks it isn't
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> check the trash in /home/.Trash-o pls...
[02:11] <mjunx> although you might have one in /root/.trash/ or something
[02:12] <Joshooa> Well, Home is 4GB, Media is 116GB, proc is 642MB, and usr is 2.2GB
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> you need root permissions to read /home/.Trash-0
[02:12] <Joshooa> And my linux partition I am running is 8GB but I don't see that on there
[02:12] <mjunx> proc is 0 MB actually ;)
[02:12] <Neuer> boah ich dreh durch
[02:12] <Joshooa> I'm logged in as root so that's covered there
[02:12] <mjunx> check how much space /root is using at least
[02:12] <Joshooa> But, why didn't ubuntu ask me to log in?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> when?
[02:13] <Joshooa> I logged in as Josh, in the terminal
[02:13] <mjunx> might have something to do with no space available
[02:13] <Joshooa> started ubuntu with startx
[02:13] <Joshooa> and now I'm root@josh
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> interesting...
[02:13] <Joshooa> I never entered a pw in the terminal or anything to get into root
[02:13] <Joshooa> but when I came into ubuntu, even though I wanted kubuntu, and go to terminal, I'm root
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[02:13] <Joshooa> anyway, th ought that was weird
[02:14] <Joshooa> But I'm new so it may not be
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> well check and see if there is anything in /home/.Trash-0 , because thats where it keeps everything that i emptied out of my personal trash
[02:14] <mjunx> also check if anything else like that exists via ls -A /home
[02:15] <Joshooa> No such file or directory
[02:15] <mjunx> is /home mounted?
[02:15] <Joshooa> mjunx: Doesn't it have to be?
[02:15] <mjunx> not necessarily...
[02:15] <Joshooa> mjunx: Everything i Have is on an 8GB partition, and installed there
[02:16] <mjunx> which is why root's home directory is in /root instead
[02:16] <Joshooa> ah
[02:16] <Joshooa> good point
[02:16] <Joshooa> well I am in /home/josh right now
[02:16] <Joshooa> So, yes?
[02:16] <mjunx> well, "ls -A /home" should work then
[02:17] <jarn> When I start a new X server, how do I run things in it?
[02:17] <Joshooa> it just shows josh
[02:17] <falconcelina> hello all
[02:17] <falconcelina> can anyone tell me how do i play .wmv files on ubuntu?
[02:17] <Joshooa> Is Ubuntu more stable than Kubuntu, I heard that it was, and now I'm stating to wonder, even though they should be like the same
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> they are about the same
[02:18] <mjunx> !codecs
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <mjunx> there we go, falconcelina, ^
[02:18] <smoze_> wow, huge update tonight
[02:18] <Joshooa> I thought they were, but now I don't know, also, I don't have a working Kubuntu DVD, but I have a working Ubuntu DVD
[02:18] <mjunx> but, libxine-extracodecs should help (in multiverse I think)
[02:19] <Joshooa> and last time I installed Ubuntu, then did that sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever, a lot of my programs messed up and wouldn't open anymore
[02:19] <mjunx> if you know enough already to know what I mean by that, you're golden; if not, read the restricted formats page and ask any questions you still have afterwards
[02:19] <Joshooa> Why can't I see the windows network in Ubuntu but I can in Kubuntu?
[02:20] <mzanfardino> what is the application I would use to connect to a windows terminal server?
[02:21] <mjunx> what exactly is a windows terminal server?
[02:21] <mjunx> does its protocol have a name?
[02:21] <mjunx> oh nevermind
[02:21] <mjunx> mzanfardino, krdc
[02:22] <mjunx> and rdesktop should be installed with that
[02:22] <mjunx> so, get both
[02:23] <looris> argh, now firefox crashes if it loads my google personalized home page - odd it was wonking half an hour ago O_o
[02:24] <BluesKaj> gents , Im curious , what the difference between KDE and Kubuntu Desktop ?
[02:25] <mjunx> kde has a lot more packages
[02:25] <mjunx> kubuntu doesn't install all of them by default
[02:25] <looris> well i'll go, thanks to everybody, bye!!
[02:26] <BluesKaj> well, i just checked in adept and I don't Kubuntu Desktop installed , altho I'm running KDE
[02:26] <BluesKaj> have
[02:26] <mjunx> do you have the "kde" package installed?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:27] <Generic|Work|> kubuntu-desktop is a dummy package with all the kde apps set as dependencies
[02:27] <Generic|Work|> it doesn't have to be installed for you to be running in kde
[02:27] <premier_> does linux/kubuntu have hybrid hard drive support?
[02:28] <BluesKaj> my friend wants to upgrade from gnome to kde , he has ubuntu edgy installed ATM
[02:28] <Generic|Work|> premier_, I believe it should support it
[02:28] <mzanfardino> mjunx: hmm... I have both krde and rdesktop installed, but when I attempt to browse for my terminal server I don't see it in my list.  And if I attempt to force a connection, either by name or IP address, krde does nothing...
[02:28] <premier_> BluesKaj: I think you can do that by installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[02:28] <Generic|Work|> premier_, boot off a live disc and see if it detects the drive
[02:28] <mjunx> you need to specify the port as well, mzanfardino
[02:29] <mjunx> so like someaddress.org:6001
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, rpd://foo
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> er
[02:29] <premier_> BluesKaj: I tried to do the oposite and it got screwed up, gnome crashed on boot
[02:29] <BluesKaj> Generic|Work|, what his best bet , installing KDE or Kubuntu Desktop?
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> rdp://foo
[02:29] <premier_> Generic|Work|: I want to find out before I buy a hybrid hard drive
[02:29] <Joshooa> So, is it difficult to install Ubuntu and Kubuntu and switch between them, and is that likely to cause conflicts like last time I upgraded to Kubuntu?
[02:29] <Generic|Work|> BluesKaj, kubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <Joshooa> And I mean just switch between Gnome and KDE, not actually two seperate installs
[02:29] <BluesKaj> right, ok , i'll tell him
[02:30] <mjunx> Joshooa, not difficult at all
[02:30] <Generic|Work|> premier_, I just did a quick search on support. It's in development, so it's not in the current ubuntu kernel
[02:30] <mzanfardino> mjunx: ah... ok, however, I don't know the port...
[02:31] <BluesKaj> will kubuntu run on an older pc , 600mhz with 256 ram ...60G HDD
[02:31] <premier_> I wonder if it will work by june-ish
[02:31] <Generic|Work|> Joshooa, nope, logout and select kde as your session manager
[02:31] <mjunx> mzanfardino, do nmap on the host maybe?
[02:31] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, in krdc, just type rdp://servername
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !specs
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Generic|Work|> BluesKaj, it will, but i recommend running something less resource heavy
[02:32] <Generic|Work|> !requirements
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <mzanfardino> Generic|Work|: brilliant!
[02:33] <premier_> I want my computer to have a white on black color scheme instead of a black on white, but every other internet application seems to want to match a white background with my default  system font color (white on white).  why?
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> mzanfardino, :)
[02:33] <mjunx> !help | Generic|Work|
[02:33] <ubotu> Generic|Work|: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:33] <mjunx> lol
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> quiet you!
[02:33] <Generic|Work|> :P
[02:33] <mjunx> ;)
[02:34] <mjunx> if you want to [ab] use the bot, rtfm n00b hehe
[02:34] <Generic|Work|> hehe, sometimes it has useful stuff!
[02:34] <mjunx> yeah, but when it gets spammed (like in #ubuntu *coughcough*)...
[02:35] <Generic|Work|> heh
[02:35] <Generic|Work|> I taught a helper yesterday how to use > with ubotu
[02:35] <Ashex> I should script that...
[02:37] <mjunx> I wonder how advanced that bot it
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Generic|Work|, he wants to run it as a music server controller for his Roku setup
[02:37] <mjunx> sure, I could install it myself and see hehe
[02:37] <mjunx> let's see if it supports zsh syntax ;)
[02:38] <Ashex> BluesKaj, so just as a file server or for streaming audio to the roku box?
[02:38] <mjunx> !help |& me
[02:38] <ubotu> & me: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:39] <mjunx> hmm, guess not
[02:40] <Ashex> ah, I know this bought
[02:40] <Ashex> too bad we have to register to play with ubotu
[02:40] <Ashex> bot*
[02:41] <jhutchins>  mjunx It's a pretty neat bot, if two people do the same query, or if you do two in rapid succession, it just says "see above".
[02:41] <mjunx> hmm, nice
[02:41] <jhutchins> If you want to play with it it's a good idea to just open a query window or /msg it.
[02:41] <mjunx> yeah, and you can install the bot yourself also
[02:42] <mjunx> !version
[02:42] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:42] <mjunx> dammit that's not what I meant
[02:42] <mjunx> er, sorry
[02:42] <Jucato> !botabuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:42] <jhutchins> Jucato: Ought to have a throttle function that either pops that up or /ignores people.
[02:43] <Jucato> nah. it's ok. kicking is better :)
[02:49] <scott_> im having some problems getting my dell truemobile 1300 wireless adapter working, kubuntu doesnt seem to have the appropriate drivers and i cant seem to get NDISwrapper working for me
[02:52] <mjunx> scott_, there's no native drivers for it?
[02:52] <scott_> not that seem to work
[02:52] <Jucato> !wireless
[02:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <scott_> ty
[02:53] <reldruh> scott_: what's the entry for it in lspci?
[02:55] <scott_> 14e4:4320
[02:55] <mjunx> I don't think that's helpful lol
[02:55] <scott_> 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:56] <mjunx> oh, another broadcom :(
[02:56] <scott_> yea .... came from the factory :(
[02:56] <mjunx> in the long run, I suggest swapping out that wifi card for something that doesn't suck, but in the meantime, let's see if we can get it working
[02:56] <NightBird> is there a way to make an extra desktop entry that basically the only difference is that it uses a different driver?
[02:57] <reldruh> scott_: I've got a broadcom card. Don't let people scare you, it's really not _that_ terrible
[02:57] <reldruh> scott_: ndiswrapper will work with it, but it's... temperamental
[02:58] <bioflame> my updater will not run i keep getting "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[02:58] <mjunx> bioflame, then you've got another program using it
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> are you running another package management app?
[02:58] <mjunx> or it was killed while being used and wasn't cleaned up
[02:58] <reldruh> bioflame: did you stop adept or apt-get in the middle of an install?
[02:58] <bioflame> not that i know of
[02:59] <bioflame> I have rebooted
[02:59] <mjunx> so, check to make sure apt-get, aptitude, dselect, adept, and synaptic aren't running
[02:59] <stdin> !aptfix
[02:59] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:59] <bioflame> oh there a list ok one sec
[03:00] <mjunx> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:01] <mjunx> and what's with the french quotes? lol
[03:02] <Fizzbane> Hey. Does anyone here know how to put the windows boot loader back on a hd using the recovery console on the XP disc?
[03:03] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Nope.
[03:03] <stdin> Fizzbane: fixmbr (I think)
[03:03] <jhutchins> fdisk /mbr works.
[03:03] <mjunx> !ntldr
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntldr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <mjunx> bah
[03:03] <elijah> hi everyone
  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   thanks all
[03:03] <Fizzbane> I hate windows -_-
[03:03] <bioflame> that worked
[03:04] <pax> fixmbr can be used from recovery console.
[03:04] <Fizzbane> but where is grub located?
[03:04] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Same place.
[03:04] <Fizzbane> isnt it on the MBR?
[03:04] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You can't have both.
[03:04] <mjunx> Fizzbane, grub is in /boot mostly
[03:04] <Fizzbane> then how do i dual boot windows and linux?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> which is really the MBR
[03:05] <jhutchins> Well, you can if you have some other method of selecting which OS is going to boot.
[03:05] <mjunx> a loader thinger is in the mbr
[03:05] <mjunx> can grub even fit in the mbr?
[03:05] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Usually you use a Linux bootloader, which will load either one.
[03:05] <Fizzbane> ok
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> I think so....along with a spash and all
[03:05] <mjunx> oh, Fizzbane, grub can boot windows sorta
[03:05] <elijah> how will I install vlc media player in kubuntu?
[03:05] <stdin> mjunx: yeah, the executable part of grub can
[03:05] <Fizzbane> I got grub to boot windows but i get the error "ntldr is missing"
[03:05] <mjunx> it'll boot ntldr
[03:05] <mjunx> oh, that's a windows problem then, isn't it?
[03:05] <stdin> !vlc
[03:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:06] <Fizzbane> so it doesnt really boot windows
[03:06] <stdin> !info vlc
[03:06] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[03:06] <jhutchins> If you really know the MS boot system, you can get the NT bootloader to boot linux.
[03:06] <mjunx> elijah, via adept
[03:06] <mjunx> !multiverse
[03:06] <Fizzbane> i guess its a windows problem
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:06] <mjunx> yar, that thing
[03:06] <pax> ntldr have nothing to do with grub
[03:06] <Fizzbane> I dont know alot about the M$ boot system
[03:06] <stdin> elijah: you need to enable universe first, look at the link from ubotu
[03:06] <mjunx> ntldr is windows' boot loader
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> I think Grub  chainloads mtldr
[03:06] <mjunx> it sucks for the most part
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> *ntldr
[03:06] <mjunx> grub2 looks interesting...
[03:07] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: grub or lilo will let you pick Windows and hand you over to the windows boot process.
[03:07] <elijah> ok stdin thanks
[03:07] <pax> if it's missing then it's ms's problem.
[03:07] <Fizzbane> i am missing the ntldr which is the windows boot loader
[03:07] <elijah> what's the exact URL stdin?
[03:07] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: How did you loose it?
[03:07] <Fizzbane> I don't know
[03:07] <mjunx> *lose
[03:07] <stdin> elijah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu tells you how to do it
[03:08] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: So when you pick windows it doesn't boot?
[03:08] <Fizzbane> i get the error "ntldr is missing"
[03:08] <pax> Fizzbane - just google ntldr missing and fix it, have nothing to do with grub
[03:08] <elijah> thanks stdin
[03:09] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Possibly you are not pointing at the correct device.
[03:09] <mjunx> ntldr is beyond the scope of linux in any shape or form :)
[03:09] <Fizzbane> so where does grub located? in the mbr or on the linux hd?
[03:09] <stdin> Fizzbane: both
[03:09] <Fizzbane> so do not overwrite the mbr?
[03:09] <cotyrothery> Can someone help me
[03:09] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You can only have one bootloader in the MBR.
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: In order to load linux, you install a portion of grub, or lilo, to the mbr.
[03:10] <cotyrothery> I Installed kubuntu but when my computer restarted it sayed i have no operating system
[03:10] <Fizzbane> so your basicly saying do not overwrite the mbr?
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Both windows and linux have processes that take over from that small program in the MBR, which basically just tells the bios where to start loading code.
[03:10] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Yes, you do overwrite the mbr.
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> cotyrotehery: do you have plug and play OS enabled in your BIOS?
[03:11] <cotyrothery> um i dont know
[03:11] <cotyrothery> how would i know
[03:11] <Fizzbane> .....
[03:11] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: If you use fixmbr or fdisk /mbr in Windows, you will write the Microsoft bootloader to it.
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> check in your BIOS
[03:11] <jhutchins> If you install grub or lilo, you will write their bootloader to the MBR.
[03:11] <cotyrothery> were would i go to get into my bios
[03:12] <Fizzbane> ok I will try fixmbr
[03:12] <Fizzbane> thanks
[03:12] <ubuntu> hello world !
[03:12] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You may have to do more than that, and when you do, you won't be able to boot linux without restoring grub.
[03:12] <Fizzbane> how do i restore grub then?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> ummmm its immediately after you run your computer on, you hit esc or f1 or del depending on your computer
[03:13] <darkteengeek> hey a guick question i am trying to use dcop to get the contents of klipper
[03:13] <cotyrothery> hok
[03:13] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> it should say
[03:13] <darkteengeek> does anyone know how
[03:13] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: It sounds like XP is not finding the second stage of the ntldr, which may just mean that the boot entry in grub is not pointing at the right device, or something else may be wrong with your XP installation.
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> in there some where there should be an option for plug and play os
[03:13] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:13] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Restore grub using the recovery mode of the live CD.
[03:14] <cotyrothery> thanks i will try that
[03:14] <Fizzbane> k
[03:14] <chavo> darkteengeek, dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[03:14] <cotyrothery> i will be back if it does not work
[03:14] <Fizzbane> umm can you check my menu.lst and see if that is the problem?
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:14] <darkteengeek> thanks
[03:14] <pax> fixmbr and possibly fixboot from RC, then what jhutchins said.
[03:14] <chavo> darkteengeek, dcop has tab completion to
[03:14] <jhutchins> !mbr | Fizzbane
[03:14] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <pax> Fizzbane: again, no missing ntldr have nothing do to with linux or any other OS
[03:15] <Fizzbane> i knew that. I just dont want to lose grub
[03:15] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: It's probably easier to get your XP install fixed and set up to manage it's own boot, then fix grub.
[03:15] <Fizzbane> id rather not reformat again
[03:16] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: No need to go that far.
[03:16] <Fizzbane> good
[03:16] <Fizzbane> cuz i dont want to do that again
[03:17] <Fizzbane> i will try fixmbr and fixboot
[03:17] <Fizzbane> and see if that fixes the problem
[03:17] <Fizzbane> thank you.
[03:18] <ferret_0567> Can somebody help me get my Evolution 2 mail imported into KMail? I tried kmailcvt, but it's not working, ir freezes and imports one message from Drafts and then freezes importing the rest of Drafts.
[03:18] <angasule> !java
[03:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:18] <Fizzbane> Ill be back if i mess up linux.
[03:18] <Fizzbane> thanks again
[03:18] <Fizzbane> bye
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> bye
[03:19] <ferret_0567> ok, how do I get Sun Java to work in Konqueror
[03:20] <ferret_0567> It works in Mozilla based browsers like Firefox and Epiphany
[03:21] <mjunx> ferret_0567, rescan for plugins in its configure
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> konqueror uses the same drivers as firefox
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> so you should be able to install it from where it is in .mozzilla
[03:22] <BluesKaj> is there an atomic clock utility like the one texas based one for windows
[03:23] <mjunx> BluesKaj, you mean for linux?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> its called "ntp"
[03:23] <mjunx> because you can just sync with an ntp server (pool.ntp.org) which are all synced to atomic clocks
[03:24] <ferret_0567> Oh! aptitude reinstall sun-java6-plugin:
[03:24] <ferret_0567> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the sun-java6-plugin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
 E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[03:24] <mjunx> sudo
[03:26] <ferret_0567> 'sudo aptitude reinstall sun-java6-plugin'...same thing
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher is running
[03:26] <Hasrat_USA> ?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> mjunx, my pc goes down at night so ntp isn't for me
[03:26] <ferret_0567> adept requires it
[03:26] <mjunx> BluesKaj, you can sync with it whenever...
[03:26] <mjunx> like, during the day
[03:26] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ killall apt-index-watcher
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher(4158): Operation not permitted
[03:26] <ferret_0567> apt-index-watcher: no process killed
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> ntp still works...esp when you reboot
[03:27] <ferret_0567> evil apt-index-watcher!
[03:29] <mjunx> SUDO!
[03:29] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[03:30] <ferret_0567> purging apt-index-watcher:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> broken packages:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-common debtags
[03:30] <ferret_0567> Things depend on apt-index-watcher other than that:
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-batch
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-common
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-installer
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-manager
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-notifier
[03:30] <ferret_0567> adept-updater
[03:30] <ferret_0567> debtags
[03:30] <ferret_0567> language-selector-qt
[03:30] <Jucato> !pasetbin | ferret_0567
[03:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> !pastebin | ferret_0567
[03:30] <ferret_0567> That's going to be my only more than 4 lines of code post
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <ubotu> ferret_0567: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:30] <ferret_0567> Thanks for that
[03:30] <BluesKaj> mjunx, i wonder if ntp gonna change to daylight saving time sat nite ?
[03:30] <Jucato> bah I can't spell :P
[03:30] <_Daisuke_Ido_> hehe
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Blues: good question
[03:31] <BluesKaj> here in north america
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> vmware = not bad
[03:31] <Hasrat_USA> _Daisuke_Ido_:  pastebin service is free?
[03:31] <mjunx> ntp is in UTC
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> yep
[03:31] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: yes
[03:31] <mjunx> your computer calculates the proper time from that
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> oh well...
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> now to pray that i can play my non-wineworthy games
[03:31] <_Daisuke_Ido_> namely, the longest journey
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> _daisuke vmware won't work with anything requiring 3d accel
[03:32] <_Daisuke_Ido_> oldish games, and it works in software mode
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:33] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i tend to shy away from recent games
[03:33] <mshade> BluesKaj: ntp won't affect DST
[03:33] <mshade> ntp is based on GMT
[03:33] <mjunx> hmm, if you have any dos games, you can run them in freedos
[03:33] <mshade> your machine needs to know how to translate GMT into your local time
[03:33] <mjunx> libc calculates the proper time from timezone files
[03:33] <mshade> for that, ntp won't help
[03:33] <BluesKaj> so chrony will ?
[03:34] <mjunx> and if you have a version of libc released since the timezone change was ratified, you're set
[03:34] <BluesKaj> when was that , ?  :)
[03:34] <mshade> BluesKaj: /usr/sbin/zdump -v |grep 2007
[03:34] <mshade> whoops
[03:35] <mshade>  /usr/sbin/zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> no such directory
[03:35] <ferret_0567> Why can't I lock the dpkg list directory, even as root, with apt-index-watcher stopped by it's /etc/init.d/ script?
[03:35] <mshade> trailing / ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> no such dir here either
[03:35] <mjunx> hrtr, tun yhid
[03:35] <mshade> sorry
[03:35] <mjunx> oops
[03:36] <mjunx> here, run this
[03:36] <mshade> zdump is in /usr/bin in ubuntu :)
[03:36] <mjunx> date --date="Mar 25 15:00:00 UTC 2006"
[03:36] <mjunx> date --date="Mar 25 15:00:00 UTC 2007"
[03:36] <mjunx> the times should be an hour apart
[03:36] <ferret_0567> run ddate
[03:36] <mshade> zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007
[03:36] <ferret_0567> It's fun
[03:36] <mjunx> well, one year and an hour apart
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> loos good
[03:36] <mshade> the zdump command above should output March 11 as the date instead of April
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> *looks
[03:37] <mshade> zdump -v /etc/localtime |grep 2007 :)
[03:37] <mjunx> I got my method from a dude on /.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> yep march 11 here in 6:10
[03:37] <mjunx> it works perfectly
[03:38] <mshade> not saying your method is bad, mjunx :p
[03:38] <cotyrothery> it did not have a plug in play in bios
[03:38] <mjunx> it's the most straightforward method :)
[03:38] <BluesKaj> oh cool , it sees it mar 11 and nov 4 as edt and est
[03:38] <mshade> not if you want to know what day DST starts ;)
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery.... then what exactly is your error, and when do you get it?
[03:39] <cotyrothery> it just says that i have no operating system
[03:39] <BluesKaj> no worries
[03:39] <cotyrothery> at boot
[03:39] <elijah> hi stdin
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> well, put in a live CD and reinstall
[03:39] <cotyrothery> i have
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> you must have messed up somewhere
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: if you go into the config for your hard drives, you should be able to set 'Large' or 'AUTO'
[03:40] <cotyrothery> nope i just let it do its thing
[03:40] <elijah> I added this " deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" on the repositories, but then the adept manager doesn't load anymore
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: toggle it to one or the other
[03:40] <elijah> why is that?
[03:40] <mshade> cotyrothery: i'm talking about in the bios, i mean.
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ya
[03:40] <cotyrothery> set to large or auto
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ?
[03:40] <cotyrothery> what will that do
[03:40] <mshade> if it's auto, set to large -- if large, set to auto
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:40] <mshade> it changes the way the bios interacts with the drive
[03:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[03:41] <stdin> elijah: that's supposed to be for some commercial apps, you probably don't need it
[03:41] <mshade> i've had that issue with grub, but not lilo :)
[03:41] <cotyrothery> see you in a few
[03:41] <cotyrothery> it takes for ever to start up window
[03:41] <elijah> ok then how will i remove it?
[03:41] <elijah> to make adept running again/
[03:41] <stdin> elijah: just press Alt-F2, and enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove that line
[03:42] <elijah> i'll try this stdin thanks
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery, is windows still working on that comp?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> I have to go... bye all'
[03:43] <mshade> later, mike
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> haha how'd you guess?
[03:44] <mshade> i read everything backwards.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> haha yeah bye
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You got powers here? :)
[03:45] <stdin> he's got "super cow powers"
[03:46] <ferret_0567> lol
[03:46] <ferret_0567> try sudo apt-get moo
[03:46] <ferret_0567> or just apt-get moo
[03:46] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:46] <stdin> and aptitude moo
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Who was that masked Holestein cow?
[03:46] <stdin> aptitude -v moo
[03:46] <stdin> etc...
[03:47] <ferret_0567> There are no easter eggs in this program.
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: yeah, add a -v
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: then another
[03:47] <stdin> ferret_0567: and another
[03:47] <ferret_0567> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ aptitude -vvvv moo
[03:47] <ferret_0567> Okay, okay, if I give you an Easter Egg, will you go away?
[03:48] <stdin> keep adding '-v'
[03:48] <ferret_0567> I won!
[03:49] <stdin> ferret_0567: 1 more -v
[03:49] <elijah> hi stdin, i tried it and it worked
[03:50] <stdin> elijah: great :)
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Can someone help with a chroot audio issue?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !chroot
[03:50] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:50] <elijah> so now, what i need is to enable the universe/multiverse to install other applications like windows media player, right?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> elijah: blasphemy!
[03:51] <stdin> elijah: yeah, except you can't actually install windows media player, just the codecs
[03:51] <DaSkreech> elijah: Why would you WANT windows Media player?
[03:51] <mjunx> for the eye candy lol
[03:51] <ferret_0567> multiverse is for propriatory stuff
[03:51] <ferret_0567> Why would you WANT WMP?
[03:52] <elijah> because amarok and kaffeine cannot play my favorite videos
[03:52] <ferret_0567> try mplayer
[03:52] <ferret_0567> ...
[03:52] <DaSkreech> elijah: They probably can
[03:52] <ferret_0567> wait
[03:52] <DaSkreech> elijah: what videos
[03:52] <ferret_0567> There is a libxine-extracodecs
[03:52] <mjunx> get that
[03:52] <mjunx> !codecs
[03:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:52] <Gh0st75> hullo, adept seems to be working again now thankfully
[03:52] <mjunx> read read read^^^
[03:52] <Gh0st75> anyone know the command line to install sun java 6 ?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:53] <mjunx> apt-get install sun-java6-sdk
[03:53] <Gh0st75> sdk? ah that's what i was typing wrong then, thanks
[03:53] <cotyrothery> i did not find anything
[03:53] <eean> is there an update-manager for Kubuntu?
[03:53] <stdin> Gh0st75: you need edgy-backports, and you probably want the jre, no the sdk
[03:53] <mjunx> er, crap, it's jdk
[03:53] <cotyrothery> that said i could change auto or larg
[03:54] <ferret_0567> You need to enable multiverse to get libxine-extracodecs
[03:54] <Hasrat_USA> huh there is no need to install java6 jre
[03:54] <elijah> ferret_0567, where can i get those extra codecs?
[03:54] <ferret_0567> Multiverse
[03:54] <Gh0st75> i've enabled the backports, trying to install it again now, looks like tha command worked, i was using jdk, but left out the word install
[03:54] <ferret_0567> Did you register elijah?
[03:55] <ferret_0567> register for FreeNode, that is?
[03:55] <elijah> how's that?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> !register
[03:55] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:55] <mjunx> !multiverse | elijah
[03:55] <ubotu> elijah: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:55] <stdin> ferret_0567: why do you need him to register ?
[03:55] <cotyrothery> I could not find the auto or larg in bios now what
[03:56] <ferret_0567> Private Messages would be most helpful, I believe
[03:56] <stdin> ferret_0567: then set Unfiltered on
[03:56] <navilon> how can i turn off the icons that show up next to menu items?
[03:56] <cotyrothery> So am i going to be able to run kubuntu
[03:57] <stdin> ferret_0567: '/msg NickSetv set unfiltered on' lets unregistered users /msg you
[03:57] <cotyrothery> I can not get kubuntu to boot it says there is no operating system when i boot
[03:58] <stdin> ferret_0567: that's NickServ tho :P
[03:58] <stdin> not Nicksetv
[03:58] <mjunx> cotyrothery, reinstall grub
[03:58] <mjunx> ask someone else in here how to do that if you don't know how because I don't remember how, sorry
[03:58] <mjunx> or check grub-install's manpage or something
[03:58] <mjunx> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <mjunx> or that^
[03:59] <Compleja> donde era el canal de espanol ?
[03:59] <Compleja> :/
[03:59] <mjunx> #ubuntu-es probably
[03:59] <stdin> !es
[03:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <Compleja> mjunx, thnks =*
[03:59] <Compleja> >D
[03:59] <mjunx> np
[03:59] <elijah> ferret_0567, stdin, can we chat now? privately ;)
[04:00] <coty> so what do i do
[04:01] <ferret_0567> elijah, are you receiving my messages?
[04:01] <ferret_0567> I didn't even have to get the
[04:01] <mjunx> oh yeah, you need to register with ns to pm people
[04:01] <ferret_0567> 'set unfiltered on
[04:01] <coty> mjunx
[04:01] <ferret_0567> thing fixed
[04:01] <mjunx> yes'm?
[04:01] <coty> I cant get grub to work i guess
[04:01] <elijah> ferret_0567 yuh i can rcve your messages
[04:02] <elijah> i did reply
[04:02] <ferret_0567> In private messages?
[04:02] <elijah> yep
[04:02] <ferret_0567> I can't hear you.
[04:02] <scott_> sry i come from fedora.... how do you restart a service in ubuntu
[04:02] <mjunx> coty, from a livecd?
[04:02] <mjunx> scott_, /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[04:03] <coty> I can get live cd to work
[04:03] <coty> it works fine
[04:03] <ferret_0567> /etc/init.d has scripts...you beat me to it
[04:03] <scott_> kk ty
[04:03] <elijah> i buzzed you again in private, did you see it?
[04:03] <ferret_0567> no
[04:03] <ferret_0567> Grrr....
[04:03] <elijah> can you type somehting again?
[04:03] <elijah> in private
[04:03] <ferret_0567> I am using Kopete, why doesn't it work?
[04:04] <coty> I am annoyed all i want to have is kubuntu installed
[04:04] <elijah> ok testing, got it
[04:04] <mjunx> ferret_0567, did you identify with ns?
[04:04] <stdin> ferret_0567, elijah: just create a channel if you can't message
[04:04] <coty> windows sux
[04:04] <elijah> ok
[04:04] <ferret_0567> I did just identify
[04:04] <DaSkreech> coty: What's the problem?
[04:04] <jlaustill> anyone in here have experience with kde and multiple keyboard layouts?
[04:05] <mngrif> ls: reading directory /home-thc/: Input/output error
[04:05] <mngrif>  /home-thc is a nfs share
[04:05] <coty> When i install kubuntu and it restarts it tells me i have no operating system
[04:05] <mngrif> df shows it, mount shows it, but files don't show...
[04:05] <mngrif> any and all suggestions are appreciated
[04:06] <elijah> stdin, i was able to install vlc and div-x on ubuntu before
[04:06] <coty> DaSkreech can you help
[04:07] <BluesKaj>  Vive Le Linux Revolocion !.... I got a friend convinced Bill Gates is the antichrist !
[04:07] <DaSkreech> coty: How many hard drives do you have in the computer?
[04:07] <coty> @
[04:07] <coty> 2
[04:07] <ferret_0567> Sorry, Kopete crased
[04:08] <coty> one is 15 GB
[04:08] <coty> the other is 30
[04:08] <DaSkreech> and you are sure you have the right one set to boot up?
[04:08] <coty> um i unplug the main one
[04:08] <coty> and plug the main line into the second
[04:08] <coty> wouldn't that work
[04:08] <alejandro> hola
[04:09] <alejandro> algun hispano?
[04:09] <ferret_0567> elijah? You there?
[04:09] <elijah> yup
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:09] <ferret_0567> Can you message me in private messages? anyway, brb
[04:09] <elijah> i'll try
[04:10] <BluesKaj> gotta be registered
[04:11] <elijah> brb ferret
[04:12] <ferret_0567> is it '/msg nickserv unfiltered on' to allow me to receive private messages from unregistered users?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ferret_0567, whynot just register yerself?
[04:13] <ferret_0567> I did
[04:13] <Joshooa> I need some help with my wireless card/network settings
[04:13] <ferret_0567> I'm identified
[04:13] <BluesKaj> let them resgiter , if their serious they will too
[04:13] <Joshooa> Everytime I start up, I need to do dhclient for my card to be seen, then enter the ESSID and Encryption, and then dhclient again to be recognized
[04:13] <coty> daskreech are you there
[04:14] <DaSkreech> coty: I don't know :)
[04:14] <montero61> hi
[04:14] <DaSkreech> you are booting off the second one?
[04:14] <montero61> mm soy de habla espaola
[04:14] <coty> yes i unplug the main line out of the main drive and plug it in the second one
[04:14] <ferret_0567> Install knetworkmanager for Kubuntu, or network-manager-gnome for Ubuntu, Joshooa
[04:15] <ferret_0567> That'll fix it :D
[04:15] <Joshooa> not if I can't get online to download it
[04:15] <Joshooa> and I don't want to do my reinstall and then have it not work and be stuck offline
[04:15] <BluesKaj> !es | montero61
[04:15] <ubotu> montero61: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:15] <Joshooa> And is that not the same thing as the Networking under settings I take it?
[04:16] <coty> so i guess there is no help for me to get kubuntu working?
[04:16] <montero61> tanks
[04:16] <montero61> muchas gracias
[04:16] <ferret_0567> Err...download the package and all dependencies onto a USB Mass Storage device and plug it into the computer requested I guess
[04:17] <warewolf_> Anyone able to help me troubleshoot installing the nvidia-glx driver on feisty herd 5?
[04:17] <ferret_0567> If you know how to get wireless working on the computer in question, connect to the network and then immediatly download one of those
[04:17] <coreymon77> warewolf
[04:17] <coty> How can i get kubuntu to work i really want it
[04:17] <coreymon77> !feisty
[04:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:18] <warewolf_> coreymon77 - I know that... doesn't mean I can't ask for help installed the driver
[04:18] <cotyrothery> So should i reinstall kubuntu again
[04:18] <warewolf_> coreymon77 I can get it running on herd 5 of ubuntu.. for not kubuntu.. which I find weird
[04:18] <Joshooa> In a little bit, I am going to put in my Ubuntu DVD and reinstall, and I don't think it will work then, and I'll be networkless
[04:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: whats the Main Line?
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  the Power?
[04:19] <warewolf_> DaSkreech A/C
[04:19] <Joshooa> and then even if I do eventually get it, it never saves my settings and i have to do it every time
[04:19] <Joshooa> But if on the site it says my card works, why doesn't it work
[04:19] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: sorry?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: sorry?
[04:20] <warewolf_> DaSkreech - Main Line - A/C power
[04:20] <warewolf_> DaSkreech - Main Line - A/C power
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Ok
[04:20] <DaSkreech> ...
[04:20] <warewolf_> oops
[04:20] <cotyrothery> Can anyone help me get kubuntu running
[04:20] <warewolf_> worry, lagged
[04:20] <DaSkreech> I don't think that will make it run from that drive
[04:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Wahts up?
[04:20] <cotyrothery> the same
[04:21] <cotyrothery> I cant find anyone who know what i need to do
[04:21] <DaSkreech> What's happening?
[04:21] <warewolf_> Anyone got an idea why installing nvidia-glx causes the x session to sit at a blinking _?
[04:22] <cotyrothery> I install kubuntu then restart the computer and it tells me there is no operating system
[04:22] <DaSkreech> you are on the live CD now?
[04:22] <cotyrothery> no should i be
[04:22] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: what are you on now?
[04:23] <cotyrothery> lamb old windows xp
[04:23] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: oh come on, atleast go on to the livecd
[04:24] <warewolf_> hehe =P
[04:24] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: dont insult the channel by talking in it on windoze :P
[04:24] <cotyrothery> LOL
[04:24] <cotyrothery> Sorry
[04:24] <cotyrothery> i cant help it
[04:24] <cotyrothery> I am doing my best
[04:24] <cotyrothery> to get kubuntu working
[04:24] <cotyrothery> but it is a pain
[04:24] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Thats ok. Live Cd is where we can help you the most
[04:25] <cotyrothery> lOL
[04:25] <cotyrothery> all right
[04:25] <cotyrothery> i will go to live cd
[04:25] <cotyrothery> it might be awhile so dont disconnect
[04:25] <cotyrothery> lol
[04:25] <cotyrothery> bye
[04:26] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Fix my problem yet by chance? =P
[04:26] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: I don't know what your problem is
[04:26] <DaSkreech> There you go
[04:27] <warewolf_> wtf? =P
[04:28] <warewolf_> well, installing nvidia-glx works for me in ubuntu just fine... but in kubuntu I'm just sitting at a blinking cursor after restarting the x session
[04:29] <bewl> has anyone come across with the problem of Totem not showing video from wma, but playing sound?
[04:29] <ubuntu> hi,
[04:29] <wiseKid> bewl:did you download the codecs?
[04:29] <neeeded> hi
[04:29] <neeeded> i encounter this problem
[04:29] <bewl> I did download the restricted formats
[04:30] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: how did you install it in each?
[04:30] <neeeded>   kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) after do dist-upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[04:30] <bewl> according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <DaSkreech> bewl: You need the w32codecs
[04:30] <neeeded> any solutions
[04:30] <bewl> I wasnt able to get anything to play before that.
[04:30] <wiseKid> bewl: install all the codecs from add/remove
[04:30] <bewl> Thanks :)
[04:31] <Joshooa> Why would my wireless card not show up with iwconfig, and then after doing dhclient, and failing, typing iwconfig shows it under ra0?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !w32
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs
[04:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:31] <neeeded> !kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[04:32] <elijah> ferret, are you there?
[04:33] <ferret_0567> Does anybody know if you can send a file to a Google Talk user from a Google Talk user successfully using Kopete?
[04:34] <neeeded> does anyone here know how to fix this problem
[04:34] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Synaptic download in ubuntu / Adept download in Kubuntu, sudo nvidia-xconfig in both
[04:34] <neeeded>   kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: try dropping to a VT and running startx
[04:36] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: Will try that next... got a pretty good sized update running at the moment
[04:36] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:42] <NixHex> alright samba problem and neither #ubuntu+1 nor #samba is responding...windows machines are not able to access anything
[04:42] <ubuntu> ok im on live cd
[04:42] <NixHex> it worked in herd 4...but not herd 5, anyone know of anything?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Welcome
[04:43] <cotyrothery> hello
[04:43] <cotyrothery> i like this
[04:43] <cotyrothery> more
[04:43] <neeeded> :(
[04:43] <DaSkreech> what partition did you install on?
[04:43] <cotyrothery> I dont know
[04:43] <cotyrothery> I just erased the whole drive
[04:43] <BluesKaj> oh lordy
[04:43] <cotyrothery> and installed
[04:44] <cotyrothery> I love being on kubuntu
[04:44] <cotyrothery> this is great
[04:44] <cotyrothery> even though it is live cd
[04:44] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You plugged off the other drive?
[04:45] <cotyrothery> what
[04:45] <cotyrothery> do you mean unplugged
[04:46] <mase> shit.
[04:46] <mase> i tried to install a gnome theme
[04:46] <mase> now my theme selector freezes
[04:46] <mase> and i get all kinds of theme errors on startup
[04:46] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[04:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:47] <cotyrothery> daskreeck are you still there
[04:47] <neeeded> is there anybody facing kernel panic problem when dist-upgrade
[04:51] <greg> hello
[04:51] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[04:51] <greg>  have a questoin about xorg.conf and it's effect on my refresh rate
[04:51] <mjunx> well ask it :)
[04:51] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What is on the drive on the system now?
[04:52] <cotyrothery> what do you mean by that
[04:52] <cotyrothery> on the drive on the system?
[04:52] <greg> i can't set my refresh rate higher than 56 Hz
[04:52] <mjunx> in system settings, greg?
[04:52] <greg> but i'm quite sure xorg.conf is properly setup
[04:53] <mjunx> well, you can use gtf to generate a modeline to fix the refresh rate
[04:53] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do you mean
[04:53] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How many hard drives are there in the computer?
[04:53] <greg> gtf?
[04:53] <greg> oh
[04:53] <greg> one moment
[04:53] <cotyrothery> 2
[04:54] <cotyrothery> The main one has 30 GB
[04:54] <cotyrothery> and The Slave has 15 GB
[04:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok which one are you installing on?
[04:54] <cotyrothery> The Slave
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Alright
[04:54] <DaSkreech> can you mount it for me?
[04:54] <greg> should i sudo gtf? or does it matter?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !mount
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <DaSkreech> :-P
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[04:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:55] <cotyrothery> What do you mean can i mount it for you
[04:55] <greg> i did "gtf h-1024 v-768 85"
[04:55] <greg> i paste the output in the "screen" section yes
[04:56] <greg> ?
[04:56] <Gh0st75> i just finished installing sun java 6 jdk, is there a command i have to run after that to enable it?
[04:56] <Gh0st75> i'm using swiftfox btw
[04:56] <greg> or the "screen" subsection?
[04:57] <Mushindo> #ubuntu-es
[04:57] <mjunx> no, the monitor section
[04:57] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do you mean by mount
[04:58] <greg> k one moment, testing, i shall return
[04:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: can you open a konsole?
[04:58] <greg> both lines of the output, or only the first line?
[04:58] <cotyrothery> Huuu
[04:58] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: in order to acces any media, including hard drives, you have to mount them
[04:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Is that  a no? :)
[04:58] <cotyrothery> what is konsole
[04:58] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: terminal window?
[04:58] <cotyrothery> Waaa
[04:59] <cotyrothery> ??
[04:59] <mjunx> cotyrothery, you can see if they're mounted by going to /media in konqueror
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press alt+space
[04:59] <cotyrothery> ok
[04:59] <greg> testing, i shall return
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type konsole
[04:59] <cotyrothery> swwwweeett
[04:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press enter
[04:59] <cotyrothery> what was that
[04:59] <mjunx> katapult
[04:59] <DaSkreech> katapult
[04:59] <DaSkreech> !katapult
[04:59] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[04:59] <cotyrothery> well it is starting up
[04:59] <mjunx> there's a program for os x like that, I forget what it's called
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Quicksilver
[04:59] <mjunx> yeah, there ya go
[05:00] <cotyrothery> i think it is loading
[05:00] <cotyrothery> im waiting
[05:00] <warewolf_> woohoo.. NVIDIA working now!
[05:00] <cotyrothery> um nothing is happingin
[05:01] <mjunx> what od you mean?
[05:01] <cotyrothery> well i pushed alt+space
[05:01] <cotyrothery> and a box poped up
[05:01] <coreymon77> 
[05:01] <cotyrothery> and then disappeared
[05:01] <coreymon77> its called katapult
[05:01] <deathnote> why when i try to apt-get install build-essential
[05:01] <deathnote> i get
[05:01] <deathnote> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:01] <deathnote>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[05:01] <deathnote>                             libc-dev
[05:01] <deathnote>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[05:01] <deathnote> E: Broken packages
[05:01] <mjunx> press alt+space, then start typing
[05:02] <coreymon77> type alt+space
[05:02] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:02] <mjunx> deathnote, apt-get -f install
[05:02] <coreymon77>  them type konsole
[05:02] <itazuki> tested no good
[05:02] <coreymon77> and press enter
[05:02] <deathnote> mjunx: same
[05:02] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:02] <cotyrothery> now i see
[05:02] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Whoot! :)
[05:02] <mjunx> oh, deathnote, apt-get update, then try again
[05:02] <itazuki> now when i go to "System Settings" and then "Monitors and Display the module cannot be loaded
[05:02] <cotyrothery> cool
[05:02] <cotyrothery> i love kubuntu
[05:03] <DaSkreech> deathnote: try apt-get update first
[05:03] <itazuki> and when i use krandrtray it's still 56Hz max
[05:03] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:03] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: yoou have just discovered the konsole
[05:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:03] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok in konsole type mkdir test
[05:03] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:03] <itazuki> i pasted this in
[05:03] <deathnote> i did update grade and dist-upgrade
[05:03] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:03] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: you are now on your way to becoming a true linux genius
[05:03] <deathnote> doing again
[05:03] <itazuki> nvrmind
[05:03] <itazuki> i won't paste it in
[05:04] <itazuki> but yeah, i put in the 2 lines outputted by gtf
[05:04] <cotyrothery> ok did it
[05:04] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:04] <mjunx> hmm, I think there's more to it than I was saying
[05:04] <mjunx> try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <cotyrothery> i cant wait to become a linux genius
[05:04] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: going to teach you about tab completion :)
[05:04] <cotyrothery> This is great
[05:04] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type ls
[05:04] <cotyrothery> alright
[05:04] <mjunx> should let you change the resolutions/refreshrates/etc
[05:04] <DaSkreech> you should see the directory test
[05:04] <cotyrothery> that means list right
[05:04] <mjunx> yeah
[05:04] <Gh0st75> anyone able to get java pages working in swiftfox using sun java 6?
[05:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yes
[05:05] <cotyrothery> i have desktop an
[05:05] <cotyrothery> test
[05:05] <deathnote> it still doesn't work..
[05:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok type sudo mount /dev/hd<tab><tab>
[05:05] <mjunx> okay now type "touch foo"
[05:05] <cotyrothery> which one
[05:05] <mjunx> uh, his thing
[05:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:05] <mjunx> I won't budge in on the tutoring lol
[05:05] <DaSkreech> WHich one?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It should give you a list of the /dev/hd devices
[05:06] <mjunx> so would ls /dev/hd*
[05:06] <cotyrothery> it gave me an error
[05:06] <cotyrothery> i typed
[05:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What error?
[05:06] <cotyrothery> sudo mount /dev/he<tab><tab>
[05:06] <coreymon77> hd
[05:07] <cotyrothery> that is what i typed
[05:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: the <tab> <tab> means perss tab twice :)
[05:07] <coreymon77> cotyrothery: and did you press enter after that
[05:07] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:07] <DaSkreech> and it's hd
[05:07] <coreymon77> cause you shoouldnt
[05:07] <cotyrothery> ok that worked
[05:07] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You got a list of drives?
[05:07] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:07] <DaSkreech> like hda1 hda2 ?
[05:08] <cotyrothery> yep
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ok do you have a set like hdb1 ?
[05:08] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:08] <Gh0st75> do i need to install anything other than sun-java6-jdk in order to view java pages in swiftfox?
[05:08] <mjunx> nope, Gh0st75
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ok continue typing b1 test
[05:08] <mjunx> oh wait yeah
[05:08] <mjunx> sun-java6-plugin
[05:08] <DaSkreech> so you should have sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:09] <_Daisuke_Ido_> eventually i'll figure out why pcsx registers a button press on my gamepad as a few dozen button presses
[05:09] <Gh0st75> ah, that's what i was missin
[05:09] <cotyrothery> type b1 test?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: so you should have sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:09] <cotyrothery> It gave an error
[05:09] <cotyrothery> command not found
[05:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[05:10] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:10] <cotyrothery> did it now what
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: worked?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> ls test
[05:10] <cotyrothery> ok i have a list
[05:10] <cotyrothery> a big one
[05:11] <deathnote> it still doesn't work! i stil can't install build-essential
[05:11] <matrix> is kbear no more in efty? and why is that?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: does it have bin etc and var ?
[05:11] <Gh0st75> mjunx: hmm, still can't view java sites
[05:11] <deathnote> but i can install other packages
[05:11] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !grub
[05:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:11] <mjunx> Gh0st75, restart your browser
[05:11] <Gh0st75> did that
[05:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You need the first link :)
[05:12] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:12] <Gh0st75> and sun's java is set as the default, already verified that in terminal
[05:12] <deathnote> how to fix this apt-get problem? my souces.list are ok
[05:12] <mjunx> you using konqueror or firefox or what?
[05:12] <Gh0st75> swiftfox
[05:12] <Gh0st75> 32 bit version
[05:13] <cotyrothery> it might take awhile for that to load
[05:13] <mjunx> er, what's swiftfox? lol
[05:13] <cotyrothery> with it being live cd
[05:13] <Gh0st75> it's an optimized version of firefox
[05:13] <Gh0st75> noticeably faster
[05:14] <mjunx> well, it's not too hard to compile it from source with -O3 and whatnot
[05:14] <cotyrothery> ok im on the site
[05:15] <cotyrothery> now what should i look for
[05:16] <deathnote> why when i try to apt-get install build-essential i get errors?
[05:16] <cotyrothery> what do i do now that im on that site
[05:16] <mjunx> I don't know, deathnote, sorry
[05:17] <mjunx> what site?
[05:17] <cotyrothery> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:17] <deathnote> !build-essential
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:18] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do i do now
[05:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: have you read the site?
[05:18] <cotyrothery> Working on it
[05:19] <Gh0st75> hmm, looks like java is working for konqueror, just not for swiftfox
[05:19] <cotyrothery> I dont understand it to wel
[05:19] <cotyrothery> well
[05:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok poke me where you have problems
[05:19] <cotyrothery> um all of it
[05:19] <cotyrothery> lol
[05:20] <Olvidame> Bye all... nos vemos.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ha ha :)
[05:20] <cotyrothery> Im so confused
[05:21] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Do you understand what the first subheadnig is saying?
[05:22] <cotyrothery> nope
[05:23] <DaSkreech> It's asking if you would like linux setup so you can still boot into windows
[05:23] <cotyrothery> i dont want to boot into window
[05:23] <cotyrothery> s
[05:23] <cotyrothery> Windows Sux
[05:23] <cotyrothery> im sick of it
[05:24] <mjunx> heh you sound like my friend
[05:24] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: nevertheless :) we should keep that around in case :)
[05:24] <cotyrothery> Um why?
[05:25] <cotyrothery> I dont plan on getting rid of it
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Windows? Well that's why you still need the option of booting into it
[05:25] <cotyrothery> I will
[05:26] <cotyrothery> im not going to install kubuntu on the same drive
[05:26] <cotyrothery> so how will it affect it
[05:26] <DaSkreech> It can
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:26] <cotyrothery> alright
[05:26] <DaSkreech> in konsole  type sudo -i
[05:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:27] <DaSkreech> type grub
[05:27] <cotyrothery> which one
[05:27] <cotyrothery> grub
[05:27] <cotyrothery> or
[05:27] <cotyrothery> sudo -i
[05:27] <DaSkreech> first one then the other
[05:28] <itazuki> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:28] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:28] <itazuki> testing...one moment please
[05:29] <Gh0st75> anyone else here use swiftfox?
[05:29] <Gh0st75> i had this working before my most recent kubuntu reinstall, tho for the life of me i don't remember how
[05:29] <cotyrothery> nothing is coming up
[05:29] <DaSkreech> for grub?
[05:29] <cotyrothery> no
[05:29] <cotyrothery> the
[05:30] <cotyrothery> sudo -i
[05:30] <NixHex> Gh0st75: I use swiftfox
[05:30] <bill> hello. I am using gaim beta6...and just testing the invisible mode. if I were to give someone my aim screename can someone check if I am invisible or not?
[05:30] <cotyrothery> i hit enter
[05:30] <cotyrothery> and i get nothing
[05:30] <greg> tested...no help
[05:30] <Gh0st75> NixHex: you have any trouble getting java to work?
[05:30] <mjunx> bill, sure
[05:30] <NixHex> Gh0st75: 64bit os?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: does your prompt have # in it now?
[05:30] <Gh0st75> 64bit os but i chose the 32 bit install script from the swiftfox site
[05:31] <bill> mjunx: amfibeus
[05:31] <NixHex> Gh0st75: don't use the script, use the DEB
[05:31] <cotyrothery> what prompt
[05:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: in konsole
[05:31] <bill> mjunx: I guess just add me to your buddylist
[05:31] <DaSkreech> the thing before the cursor
[05:31] <Gh0st75> swiftfox insalled fine, just can't get java workin
[05:31] <mjunx> bill, I don't see you online, so it seems to work
[05:31] <bill> ok how about now?
[05:31] <cotyrothery> it get sudo -int(0)
[05:32] <NixHex> Gh0st75: you need to link the the plugin to your mozilla plugin directories
[05:32] <Gh0st75> right
[05:32] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Sorry. What?
[05:32] <Gh0st75> do you know the command for that?
[05:32] <cotyrothery> when i type sudo -i
[05:32] <cotyrothery> i get
[05:32] <Gh0st75> google isn't turnin up much
[05:32] <cotyrothery> sudo -int(0)
[05:33] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: can you type sudo ls test
[05:33] <cotyrothery> were
[05:33] <DaSkreech> In konsole
[05:33] <cotyrothery> i get nothing
[05:34] <DaSkreech> type pwd
[05:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:34] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah "sudo ln -s *path to plugin* *path of mozilla plugin folder*
[05:34] <cotyrothery> i still get nothing
[05:35] <mjunx> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nothing?
[05:35] <cotyrothery> not in konsole
[05:35] <DaSkreech> type which pwd
[05:35] <mjunx> ln -s path/to/whatever.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[05:35] <cotyrothery> your losing me
[05:35] <cotyrothery> what do you mean
[05:35] <Gh0st75> so there isn't a mozilla plugin dir by default?
[05:35] <NixHex> Gh0st75: there are several
[05:36] <DaSkreech> type which pwd
[05:36] <DaSkreech> exactly that
[05:36] <mjunx> isn't pwd a built-in command?
[05:36] <mjunx> oh, guess not
[05:36] <mjunx> should be /bin/pwd
[05:36] <cotyrothery> i typed pwd
[05:36] <mjunx> type "which pwd"
[05:36] <mjunx> he said to do
[05:36] <nonuda_> stdin, hello how r u?
[05:36] <cotyrothery> what is pwd
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Print working Directory
[05:37] <DaSkreech> it tells you where you are
[05:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:37] <DaSkreech> if it's not giving you an answer something is very very wrong
[05:37] <NixHex> Gh0st75: what I did was have all the plugins in a single folder and then link that folder to the other directories
[05:37] <cotyrothery> so i should type
[05:37] <greg> if you'd like to see my xorg.conf visit this link: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439-highlight-.html
[05:37] <cotyrothery> pwd
[05:38] <nonuda_> stdin, t u there?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You said you did and it does not give you an answer?
[05:38] <cotyrothery> that is right
[05:38] <Gh0st75> tryin to locate the paths there now
[05:38] <cotyrothery> i type pwd
[05:38] <cotyrothery> and i get nothing
[05:39] <NixHex> Gh0st75: so the command I used was "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ~/.mozilla/"
[05:39] <cotyrothery> what could be wrong
[05:39] <NixHex> Gh0st75: you have one plugin fulder in your home directory and then 2-3 in the "/usr/lib/"
[05:39] <Gh0st75> ok
[05:39] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type which pwd
[05:40] <mjunx> NixHex, no sudo
[05:40] <cotyrothery> what do you mean which pwd
[05:40] <cotyrothery> i typed "pwd
[05:40] <cotyrothery> that is it
[05:40] <mjunx> cotyrothery, type "which pwd"
[05:40] <mjunx> it's an entire command
[05:40] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:40] <mjunx> which is a program
[05:40] <cotyrothery> i still got nothing
[05:41] <mjunx> press ctrl-c
[05:41] <mjunx> then try agian
[05:41] <cotyrothery> what is ctrl-c
[05:41] <nonuda_> stdin, i have installed kubuntu in my laptop hdd using another pc, and i have put it back to my laptop, but when i turn on the laptop and start kubuntu, it wont start normaly, it start in konsole mode..why? how do i start it normally?
[05:41] <mjunx> kills the program you have running on the terminal
[05:41] <cotyrothery> it did nothing
[05:42] <cotyrothery> did you mean
[05:42] <mjunx> it should put you back into a $ prompt
[05:42] <cotyrothery> ctrl+c
[05:42] <mjunx> yeah
[05:42] <mjunx> same thing
[05:42] <cotyrothery> im not on the prompt
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[05:42] <cotyrothery> How stupid of me
[05:42] <mjunx> lol
[05:42] <cotyrothery> im an idiot
[05:43] <cotyrothery> ok now what
[05:43] <jarn> Konqueror can't start the cookie handler service.
[05:43] <cotyrothery> I cant beleive that
[05:43] <mjunx> jarn, log out and back in then
[05:43] <cotyrothery> i was pressing alt+space
[05:43] <mjunx> and make sure your packages are all updated
[05:43] <jarn> mjunx: No way to do it without logging out?
[05:44] <cotyrothery> and typeing it on katapult
[05:44] <mjunx> jarn, well, you could try "killall konqueror"
[05:44] <mjunx> and start again
[05:44] <cotyrothery> What do i do now that i typed wich pwd
[05:44] <mjunx> what does it say?
[05:45] <cotyrothery> "/bin/pwd
[05:45] <cotyrothery> is that what it is supposed to say
[05:45] <mjunx> okay, I don't know where he was going with it, so ask him again
[05:45] <mjunx> yeah
[05:45] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:46] <cotyrothery> are you there DaSkreech
[05:46] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yeah
[05:46] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: but pwd doesn't give you anything?
[05:46] <cotyrothery> i was typing whcih pwd in the wrong place
[05:46] <cotyrothery> ya it gave me /bin/pwd
[05:46] <neptunepink> Is there a way to turn the display upside down?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Do you have A # IN YOUR prompt?
[05:47] <Minataku> neptunepink: Lift monitor, rotate, place back on desk
[05:47] <cotyrothery> no
[05:47] <mjunx> neptunepink, via xrandr, yeah
[05:47] <nonuda_> my kubuntu start in konsole mode, how do i make it start normally?
[05:48] <flaccid> what is konsole mode?
[05:48] <mjunx> probably the tty1 prompt thing
[05:48] <neptunepink> mjunx: thanks, Minataku: finger
[05:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: try sudo -i again
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Console Mode?
[05:48] <cotyrothery> ok now i do
[05:48] <Minataku> neptunepink: Sorry, just a joke since I did't know
[05:48] <Dr_willis> you mean no X.  the normal 'console' :)
[05:48] <nonuda_> i mean i'm in like in the dos environment
[05:49] <neptunepink> :b
[05:49] <nonuda_> yes
[05:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok type grub
[05:49] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  thats the 'console' not Konsole. :)
[05:49] <nonuda_> Oh i see
[05:49] <cotyrothery> it says this could take a long time
[05:49] <mjunx> no, it's terminal lol
[05:49] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis. then how do i fix it?
[05:49] <mjunx> well, log in your name
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  try 'startx' and see if any error messages show up. When did it break?
[05:49] <nonuda_> ok..
[05:49] <mjunx> then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[05:49] <Dr_willis> yea.. login. :) then 'startx'
[05:50] <cotyrothery> ok now what
[05:50] <Dr_willis> im betting the X configs or drivers or somthing got messed.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:50] <nonuda_> ok..it start...hmm i told it will never been so easy...thanks..
[05:50] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:50] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:50] <cotyrothery> did it
[05:51] <Minataku> neptunepink: Sorry >.<
[05:51] <cotyrothery> now what
[05:51] <neptunepink> it's okay. ^_^
[05:51] <Gh0st75> thanks NixHex, looks like it's working now :)
[05:51] <greg> any other ideas regarding my refresh rate mjunx?
[05:51] <mjunx> oh, link me to your xorg.conf again
[05:51] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis, i was installing kubuntu in a different machine..
[05:52] <greg> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439.html
[05:52] <cotyrothery> now what do i do
[05:52] <mjunx> greg, add the gtf output to the monitors section
[05:53] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech what do i do now
[05:53] <nonuda_> Dr_Willis, how to tell kubuntu to detect my laptop hardware and install its driver?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> What did it say?
[05:54] <cotyrothery> GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[05:54] <underzr0> Hello
[05:54] <greg> earlier i did gtf h-1024 v-768 85 and added the 2 lines that outputted to the monitors section
[05:54] <cotyrothery>        [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
[05:54] <cotyrothery>          completions of a device/filename. ] 
[05:54] <cotyrothery> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:54] <cotyrothery>  (hd1,0)
[05:54] <cotyrothery> grub>
[05:54] <cotyrothery> That is what it says
[05:54] <greg> when i did the monitor section under system settings could load the module
[05:54] <NixHex> Gh0st75: good...trying to get samba working in feisty herd5...for some reason its not working even with no errors
[05:54] <underzr0> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:54] <greg> and krandrtray still gave a max refresh of 56Hz
[05:55] <mjunx> then add the mode name it gives to the screens section (put before the "1024x768" bit)
[05:55] <Gh0st75> feisty sounds good from what i hear, lots of nice new features
[05:55] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah its awesome..just right now some things have their issues
[05:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok look at step 5 on the site
[05:55] <underzr0> anybody here go to http://nexgenwars.com?
[05:56] <mjunx> man, I installed beagle a few days ago, and I swear, it's still not done indexing everything
[05:56] <cotyrothery> so i type root (hd0,3)
[05:56] <Gh0st75> yeah, i'm waiting til it's stable before i take the plunge
[05:56] <underzr0> or places like: http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net ?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: no you type root (what ever it spat back at you)
[05:56] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:56] <Gh0st75> this is my only OS now that i've scrapped Vista
[05:56] <greg> so before the line beginning with  Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ?
[05:57] <Gh0st75> so i need it to be stable
[05:57] <cotyrothery> ok did it
[05:57] <nonuda_> anybody?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: move on to step 6 :)
[05:57] <cotyrothery> thsi is what i got
[05:57] <cotyrothery> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[05:57] <greg>  so before the line beginning with  'Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"' ?
[05:58] <nonuda_> Dr_willis?
[05:58] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are good places
[05:58] <NixHex> Gh0st75: yeah, vista is a joke, I'm sticking with winXP for my windows machines
[05:58] <cotyrothery> alright did that
[05:58] <mjunx> no, greg, put "1280x800_60.00" or whatever before "1024x768"
[05:58] <mjunx> but after Modes
[05:58] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: 7 and 8 :)
[05:58] <cotyrothery> ok
[05:58] <Dr_willis> nonuda_, ?
[05:58] <greg> gotcha
[05:58] <Gh0st75> when i get my macbook later the spring, i'll be giving this desktop with kubuntu to my folks, and putting a kubuntu partition on the mac
[05:59] <cotyrothery> so i need to restart
[05:59] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, how to make kubuntu detect my hardware and installed all over again?
[05:59] <cotyrothery> what will happen if i do restart
[05:59] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  what did you do that made X stop working? you proberly just need to reconfogure your X server
[05:59] <mjunx> oh, I found something greg
[06:00] <mjunx> !resolution | greg
[06:00] <ubotu> greg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:00] <greg> does it all have to be on one line?
[06:00] <mjunx> yeah
[06:00] <mjunx> but check that article
[06:00] <underzr0> I'm totally telling the truth. http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are really good places
[06:00] <NixHex> Gh0st75: good luck with that..I personally don't mind mac too much and its based of linux/unix...(don't remember specifics)
[06:00] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech
[06:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yep
[06:00] <cotyrothery> what will happen when i restart
[06:01] <mjunx> xnu is a bsd/mach hybrid
[06:01] <underzr0> People are ignoring me :'(
[06:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Hopefully it should work
[06:01] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i was installing kubuntu using another pc..
[06:01] <mjunx> and darwin is made up of bsd userland (along with some gnu)
[06:01] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:01] <cotyrothery> im restarting
[06:01] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  'using' ?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Otherwise I'll reqalk you through the setup
[06:01] <Gh0st75> yeah, i need something that "just works" without needing alot of time or tinkering, but will keep a boot of this on there for when i DO have time to tinker
[06:01] <bonbonthejon> underzr0: you were shouting before, what is your problem
[06:02] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: i think dealing with the mess with windows takes more time that linux
[06:03] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, yup, i take my hdd laptop and put it on another pc to install kubuntu, and now i put it back to my laptop..
[06:03] <Gh0st75> lol, i would have over a year uptime with xp, i'm on my 8th install of kubuntu in 6 months
[06:04] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: year uptime with XP? or do you mean a year of XP without reinstalling?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  hmm... icky. :) heh.. I guess ya need to a dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or somtning) to get X set up right.
[06:04] <Gh0st75> a year uptime without needing to restart
[06:04] <nonuda_> how to do that?
[06:05] <Hasrat_USA> um may be ubuntu/kubuntu isn't for you
[06:05] <Gh0st75> other than when i'd do windows updates, but never had to restart cause of problems
[06:05] <mjunx> well, your max uptime in windows is basically 31 days or so
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> hell my beryl's uptime is 4 months lol
[06:06] <gansinho> hello, I am using adept to do an ordinary upgrade when it announces that there is a dist upgrade to feisty and warning me that it is a "development snapshot" I have two questions about it, is it safe to just upgrade? if I upgrade, after the final release is launch I'll be able to download and install the stable versions without problem?
[06:06] <mjunx> because of patch tuesday and the "critical" updates
[06:06] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are great places to sign up to :D
[06:06] <bonbonthejon> !feisty | gansinho
[06:06] <ubotu> gansinho: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:06] <mjunx> gansinho, yeah, you'll be able to upgrade, and it's kinda stable
[06:06] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  id have to say check the wiki/forums/docs - ive never had to reconfogure the sound server or X server that way
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !xorg
[06:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:06] <Gh0st75> my reasons for switching are many, tho the fact that windows is so targetted and requires so much preventative maintenance.....it almost equals the time i spend tinkering in linux to get things working
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> i wont upgrade to Feisty that quickly :P
[06:07] <gansinho> mjunx: it has the new KDE version?
[06:07] <gansinho> KDE 4?
[06:07] <mjunx> gansinho, no, you gotta get that from kubuntu.org
[06:07] <mjunx> !kde4
[06:07] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> gansinho: 3.5.6 is the most recent kde
[06:07] <mjunx> there we go
[06:07] <Hasrat_USA> what is it that you're having problem with ghost?
[06:07] <lupo> buon giorno nn trovo i pacchetti x breyl su synaptic o adept come devo fare?
[06:07] <gansinho> thanks guys!
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> !it | lupo
[06:07] <ubotu> lupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:08] <Gh0st75> in Kubuntu? nothing at the moment
[06:08] <Hasrat_USA> then why are you saying that you are having to reinstall it often?
[06:08] <Gh0st75> pretty much everything i need to do on my desktop i'm able to get working
[06:08] <Gh0st75> well i've learned a bit each time i've reinstalled it
[06:09] <nonuda_> Oh ok then...another question, in system setting-monitor & display tab hardware, graphics card using vesa, i was trying to change from vesa into ati rage mobile, but it always back use vesa..why?
[06:09] <Gh0st75> most of my problems have been no access to adept, java plugins, corrupted grub
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> lol i learn some weird s*** every day
[06:09] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net and http://nexgenwars.com are cool places :D
[06:09] <Hasrat_USA> corrupted grub damn! i don't know how people confront or reproduce that problem
[06:10] <greg> yeah i've already checked that article, i just tried the thing at the bottom under the header "You use the "nvidia" driver (Binary drivers"
[06:10] <greg> but it didn't help
[06:10] <Gh0st75> well the corrupted grub is more a fault of windows than linux, i've learned that if i want to use both, windows needs to go on first, then linux second
[06:10] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/ is a good place to ask for a signature
[06:10] <greg> it made it worse cuz x didn't start
[06:10] <underzr0> :D
[06:10] <Hasrat_USA> you installed/ran any eye-candy yet ghost?
[06:10] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: do you now know that its better to instal windows first, then let linux figure stuff out
[06:11] <Gh0st75> nope, haven't messed with desktop customization much yet, am curious about what can be done tho, particularly things like beryl
[06:11] <bonbonthejon> yeah, setting up eyecandy can lead to problems
[06:11] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:12] <Gh0st75> is there a way to make a "last known good" snapshot of my os so i can restore to that point if i fubar it?
[06:12] <Gh0st75> i've heard beryl is no walk in the park
[06:12] <greg> the odd thing is that when i'm at the login screen for kde the refresh rate seems ok and then once i login it changes and gets to 56Hz
[06:12] <ubuntu> it did not work
[06:12] <greg> this happens to all users including root
[06:12] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: there is plenty of ways to customize standard kde, if you want stable
[06:13] <cotyrothery> I still get no operating system
[06:13] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: I assume you mean like in windows? not that i know of
[06:13] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok does the installer ever ask you where you want grub?
[06:13] <Hasrat_USA> "yeah, setting up eyecandy can lead to problems" no it can't
[06:13] <greg> is xorg.conf the only file that affects your refresh rate?
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hello everyone.
[06:13] <Gh0st75> i notice when i boot into kubunto now i get two boot options, the second one appearing after the first major set of updates after the fresh install of edgy
[06:13] <cotyrothery> ok so you want me to reinstall
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Hello. cotyrothery is havign grub issues
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: apparently it doesn't exist after install
[06:14] <Hasrat_USA> ghost beryl can change the way you think about OS. it can make you realize how seriously flawed windows Vista is
[06:14] <bonbonthejon> Hasrat_USA: when i tried beryl and compiz, i couldnt get it to work, and I was stuck with a white screen, luckily i knew ways to get back
[06:14] <bonbonthejon> hi Admiral_Chicago
[06:14] <greg> i should mention that i added a beryl repo and ran updates when this happened
[06:14] <Hasrat_USA> bonbonthejon: define compiz. and what's your video card?
[06:14] <Gh0st75> oh i can believe that Hasrat, i saw a matrix desktop clip on youtoob, it looks like it has amazing potential
[06:15] <cotyrothery> I cant wait to get this working
[06:15] <bonbonthejon> !compiz | Hasrat_USA
[06:15] <ubotu> Hasrat_USA: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:15] <underzr0> Yo! go here: http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net
[06:15] <Hasrat_USA> i'm on beryl right now. it's a roller coaster
[06:15] <cotyrothery> bare with me please
[06:15] <nonuda_> !x server
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Gh0st75> i'm running an ati 9600 pro on this old thing
[06:16] <bonbonthejon> Hasrat_USA: card is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> duh ati
[06:16] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: Super Grub Disk?
[06:16] <cotyrothery> what
[06:16] <killer> I just installed 6.10 and I still have the same problem that existed in 6.01, my computer clock is correct, but unbuntu is making a worthless assumption that I live in the past about 6 hours, the install never asked about UTC, how do I turn it off?
[06:16] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:16] <cotyrothery> what is super grub disk
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> rules for installing beryl if you have ati is so different than the rules you need to know if yours is a nvidia
[06:17] <Gh0st75> truthfully, i regret ever getting an ati card
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> i'm not sure but i think i'm using beryl and xgl
[06:17] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-effets is a good channel for desktop help Hasrat_USA && Gh0st75
[06:17] <bonbonthejon> the ati was built-in to my laptop, i have no contorl over that
[06:17] <Gh0st75> when i used to game on this box every game posted better driver updates and specs for nvidia cards
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: its a cd that helps do a lot of grub work
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> and i set the rendering platform to draw resources directly from my card
[06:17] <cotyrothery> i dont have it
[06:17] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:17] <Hasrat_USA> lol okay admiral sorry
[06:18] <cotyrothery> I have no idea what grub is
[06:18] <greg> does anyone know if any other files besides xorg.conf affect refresh rate on monitor?
[06:18] <cotyrothery> all im tring to do is to get kubuntu to work
[06:18] <bonbonthejon> underzr0: stop repeating that, youve said that already
[06:18] <underzr0> Kubuntu is easy to get working
[06:18] <Gh0st75> anyhoo, eyecandy is an adventure for another day, 1:49 am here now and i have to work tomorrow
[06:18] <cotyrothery> after i install and restart it tells me i have no operating system
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: just better resources
[06:18] <Gh0st75> night all, thanks again for all the help
[06:18] <underzr0> cya
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I think the issue may be that grub is not getting installed on the MBR
[06:19] <underzr0> your welcome
[06:19] <underzr0> :P
[06:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: your windows partition is on /dev/hda1 right?
[06:19] <underzr0> I need people to join my website :(
[06:20] <underzr0> anybody want to join it?
[06:20] <cotyrothery> ya
[06:20] <underzr0> http://ongata.nanotechcorp.net/forum/
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> underzr0: this isn't the place for it. this is a kubuntu support channel
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> please stop
[06:20] <underzr0> i'm done
[06:20] <greg> man my eyes hurt
[06:20] <cotyrothery> So i do have the OS on my system
[06:20] <underzr0> sorry, i'm just pissed because no matter what i do i can't get a fucking person to join my site
[06:20] <cotyrothery> it just does not know i have it
[06:21] <cotyrothery> is that correct
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !language | underzr0
[06:21] <ubotu> underzr0: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> join a web site?
[06:21] <underzr0> forum
[06:21] <Dr_willis> juse what we need another forum :)
[06:22] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It's there . The BIOS doesn't know how to get to it
[06:22] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:22] <underzr0> ill shut up if you join :D
[06:22] <cotyrothery> so then we need to get that working
[06:23] <greg> does anyone know if any other files besides xorg.conf affect refresh rate on monitor?
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: nope
[06:23] <greg> dang
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will help
[06:23] <greg> already tried
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> hmmm
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !X
[06:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anything in there?
[06:24] <greg> checked that too :P
[06:24] <greg> heh
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dang.
[06:24] <deathnote>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.1 is to be installed <-- what does it mean???????
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure how to help then....
[06:24] <deathnote> my apt-get
[06:24] <deathnote> i'm trying to apt-get install build-essential
[06:24] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: means that libc6-dev depends on a version lower than the one you have installed
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> may be a compiling isse
[06:25] <deathnote> ic
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm.
[06:25] <deathnote> what can i do? apt-get remove libc6-dev ?
[06:25] <cotyrothery> so how will i get bios to find kubuntu
[06:25] <cotyrothery> at start up
[06:25] <underzr0> Somebody signed up with email fake at hotmail dot com
[06:25] <deathnote> building other packages seems to be ok.. except for this
[06:25] <deathnote> build-essential
[06:25] <greg> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545439.html
[06:25] <greg> my xorg.conf
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: i'd unistall that, install build-essential, then reinstall it
[06:26] <underzr0> Well since somebody signed up, ill see ya'll later
[06:26] <cotyrothery> so admiral_chicago do you know how to fix
[06:26] <cotyrothery> this problem i have
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: i'd install grub again. not sure how to help since I don't know your computer set up
[06:27] <greg> hehhehehe, i signed up, but i won't validate :P
[06:27] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: uninstall libc6 ?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: composite?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: yea
[06:27] <greg> comment it out?
[06:28] <cotyrothery> so should i just completely reinstall
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: no i mean do you run it
[06:28] <greg> i have translucent windows and fade effects
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: no, i'd download the super grub disk and burn it...not sure how you would do that
[06:28] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: i don't have libc-dev or libc6-dev installed
[06:28] <greg> but nothing really profound
[06:28] <greg> this problem...
[06:28] <cotyrothery> i dont have a burner
[06:28] <deathnote>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[06:28] <deathnote>                             libc-dev
[06:28] <deathnote>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:28] <deathnote> E: Broken packages
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential...
[06:28] <greg> started happening yesterday after i considered useing beryl and added beryl repos
[06:28] <deathnote> i've done apt-get update and checked my sources.list
[06:28] <greg> and then adept updated...
[06:29] <cotyrothery> I guess i should give up
[06:29] <greg> and now my refresh rate can't be set higher than 56Hz
[06:29] <deathnote> E: Build-dependencies for build-essential could not be satisfied.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Wait
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Let me ask some questions
[06:29] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: there is a way to reinstall grub off the live Cd
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> greg: ya, it's beryl
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #ubuntu-effects
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: If his MBR is on hd0 is it valid to have grub on hd1 ?
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: if his windows one is on hd0, then no
[06:30] <greg> thank you
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: that's what I thought
[06:31] <cotyrothery> so then what does that mean
[06:31] <NixHex> I ask thee...whats the point of a support channel if the people that know what to do never pay attention to the channel or are never logged in
[06:31] <DaSkreech> his find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd1,0)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It means you reopen console :)
[06:31] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[06:31] <cotyrothery> so i need to open konsole
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential
[06:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yup :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What?
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry, i posted that twice
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: May I inquire waht for?
[06:32] <cotyrothery> ok im opeing konsole
[06:32] <cotyrothery> alright it is open
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: can you walk him through redoing his grub? I have to step out for 10 minutes
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: np
[06:34] <otateossian> hello
[06:34] <otateossian> is anyone there
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: You the man Admiral!
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[06:34] <otateossian> i have a question
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: hello
[06:34] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Listen to Admiral_Chicago :)
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ask
[06:34] <otateossian> hello
[06:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !ask
[06:34] <cotyrothery> im ready
[06:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: wait a second...
[06:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:34] <otateossian> i have ubuntu on my dell and i want to use the wireless on it
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech:: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> gah
[06:35] <otateossian> i installed the ndiswrapper and found the driver from intel
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: sudo apt-get build-dep build-essential
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Huh?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> wrong perso
[06:35] <otateossian> and i installed it and it says that it found the hardware
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > cotyrothery
[06:35] <cotyrothery> alright
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> there will be a link in a private message, paste it in there
[06:35] <otateossian> i also installed this wireless assistant and it sees me network
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> okay. keep going.
[06:35] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: E: Build-dependencies for build-essential could not be satisfied.
[06:36] <cotyrothery> what
[06:36] <otateossian> i cant seem to get on the damn network
[06:36] <deathnote> is something wrong with my apt-get or what
[06:36] <otateossian> can someone tell me if i am doing something wrong
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: paste you /etc/apt/sources.list please
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > deathnote
[06:36] <otateossian> ok
[06:36] <otateossian> one sec
[06:36] <cotyrothery> what do you mean paste
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: what does ndiswrapper -l tell you
[06:36] <cotyrothery> were
[06:36] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: you should have a text editor open
[06:36] <DaSkreech> !paste | cotyrothery
[06:36] <ubotu> cotyrothery: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: check your private message.
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> or that....
[06:37] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: That website :)
[06:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:37] <cotyrothery> i need to go to that iste
[06:37] <cotyrothery> site
[06:37] <deathnote> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9386/
[06:37] <NixHex> !samba > NixHex
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: checking now...
[06:37] <otateossian> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[06:37] <otateossian> deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[06:37] <otateossian> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025)] / edgy main restricted
[06:37] <otateossian> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[06:37] <otateossian> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[06:37] <deathnote> woooh don't paste here
[06:37] <cotyrothery> ok im going to the site now
[06:38] <otateossian> sorry
[06:38] <cotyrothery> what do i do when i get there
[06:38] <otateossian> how can i paste it without getting disconnected
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: i wanted you to past your ndiswrapper -l to me
[06:38] <deathnote> otateossian: go to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste there..and paste us the link
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > otateossian
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> check your pm
[06:39] <cotyrothery> what pm am i checking
[06:39] <cotyrothery> and were
[06:39] <otateossian> how do i check my pm
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9387/
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> replace everything with that
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get update
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:40] <cotyrothery> im at paste bin
[06:40] <cotyrothery> now what
[06:40] <deathnote> roger..replying
[06:40] <deathnote> i mean trtying
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: copy and paste things in there, name it, send me the link
[06:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:40] <cotyrothery> what do i paste in it
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> control and V
[06:41] <flaccid> i like shift + insert
[06:42] <cotyrothery> i typed in the code you gave me
[06:42] <flaccid> :p
[06:42] <cotyrothery> a few mins ago
[06:42] <cotyrothery> it said device failed
[06:42] <deathnote> i get a couple of Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg  Connection failed
[06:43] <deathnote> Err http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_SG
[06:43] <deathnote>   Connection failed
[06:43] <deathnote> etc
[06:43] <deathnote> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: give me the link I gave you earlier
[06:43] <nonuda_> why fonts and icons looks not smooth, its like that we use old graphics or win95 maybe?
[06:43] <deathnote> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9387/
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: where did you paste them?
[06:44] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9388/
[06:44] <cotyrothery> i think that is it
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: sec.
[06:45] <cotyrothery> a box just poped up
[06:45] <cotyrothery> menu.lst kate is what it is called
[06:45] <deathnote> after doing apt-get update again and again
[06:45] <otateossian> ok
[06:45] <otateossian> so i am installing the build essentials
[06:45] <deathnote> now the update is okay but instlal build-essential stll fail with same error hmm
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: that...wasn't...for...you
[06:46] <otateossian> opps
[06:46] <otateossian> it finished
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: the server is down
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: i asked you to tell me the output of 'ndiswrapper -l' in a konsole
[06:46] <cotyrothery> so what should i do now
[06:47] <deathnote> i've updated and install build-essential ..but still same error hmm
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: still trying to figure it out
[06:47] <deathnote> before that i was installing aria
[06:47] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:47] <cotyrothery> how do i change the color of my name
[06:47] <deathnote> but removed it already
[06:47] <cotyrothery> and text
[06:47] <cotyrothery> so it is not black
[06:47] <otateossian> it said driver present hardware present
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: close konsole, alt + f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: the sg.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> that server is down
[06:48] <deathnote> ohhh
[06:48] <cotyrothery> ok i put that in
[06:48] <otateossian> thanks for the help sp far admiral
[06:48] <deathnote> can i use other mirrors?
[06:49] <cotyrothery> now something called kate has come up
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: sure, change all the sg to us and sudo apt-get update
[06:49] <otateossian> so now what admiral
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: right, copy and paste that text in the pastebin
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: so...whats the issue
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> right connecting
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> WLanAssist says what?
[06:49] <cotyrothery> ok one sec
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> does it find / connect to the server
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> wait, otateossian you use intel chipset?
[06:50] <otateossian> yes
[06:51] <otateossian> yes i use intel
[06:51] <otateossian> i think it is 845 or something like that
[06:51] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9389/
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: paste the output of lspic
[06:52] <otateossian> paste it where
[06:52] <otateossian> what command is that
[06:52] <otateossian> is that in the terminal
[06:52] <otateossian> how??
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[06:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: looking now
[06:53] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:53] <otateossian> how do i use the command
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: dammit, i'm retarted, close all that and paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:54] <cotyrothery> what
[06:54] <cotyrothery> so do i need to restart konsole
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: no.
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: konsole should be closed, kate should be closed
[06:54] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:55] <cotyrothery> kate is open
[06:55] <cotyrothery> so what should i do
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> close it
[06:55] <otateossian> how do i use the lspic command
[06:55] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: in a konsole
[06:55] <otateossian> ok
[06:56] <otateossian> i typed lspic in a console and it said it doesnt recognise it
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> lspci.
[06:56] <cotyrothery> ok what command to i put in
[06:56] <flaccid> i changed the filename of one of my classes. now with __autoload it still wants to load the old filename which is 1 char different. how is this possible?
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: alt + f2, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:56] <flaccid> oops wrong chan
[06:58] <cotyrothery> a window came up
[06:58] <cotyrothery> with no text in it
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> did you type it correctly+
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: he's on a live Cd remember
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: didn't know that?
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> err didn't know that...
[06:59] <krabbypants> lol
[06:59] <cotyrothery> ya im on live cd
[06:59] <rikanferal> Can anyone here tell me, sans rhetoric, what the deal between Novell and Microsoft actually *means*?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: his Linux install is hdb1 his windows is hda1
[06:59] <DaSkreech> rikanferal: Nobody knows
[06:59] <otateossian> here you go admiral
[06:59] <otateossian> here is the link
[06:59] <otateossian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9390/
[06:59] <krabbypants> it means dont use novell they are farts
[06:59] <rikanferal> DaSkreech: So it's one of those "wait and see" things?
[07:00] <bumzo> morning lovely pple of kubuntu
[07:00] <rikanferal> Well, I got that much
[07:00] <bumzo> i need help in mounting my external drive via  usb
[07:00] <cotyrothery> so what do i do now amiral
[07:00] <ss_> how can i check the kb/s bandwidth going through a network device at a moment in time?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> bumzo: technically plugging it in should mount it
[07:01] <nix> hello everybody
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: sorry I have to run. school and a test tomorrow
[07:01] <otateossian> soo what now
[07:01] <cotyrothery> ok so what do i do now
[07:01] <otateossian> any suggestions
[07:01] <cotyrothery> help
[07:01] <deathnote> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[07:01] <bumzo> yes ... but i cant write ... i onlu have read rights
[07:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: open konsole :)
[07:01] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Quick question
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: shoot
[07:01] <deathnote> i'm stuck at the apt-get update
[07:01] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> can't stay long..
[07:02] <cotyrothery> ok konsole is open
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: step 5 he should have root(hd0,1) ?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type mkdir test
[07:02] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry say again DaSkreech
[07:02] <stdin> deathnote: it doesn't seem down, I just tried accessing it, and it worked
[07:02] <otateossian> admiral any quick suggestions
[07:03] <cotyrothery> ok i did that now what
[07:03] <DaSkreech> when he is trying to fix this grub from the grub prompt
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> otateossian: look on teh wiki pages
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the best I can help with..
[07:03] <DaSkreech>  he should have root(hd0,1) or setup (hd0,1) ?
[07:03] <otateossian> thank you for all the help
[07:03] <otateossian> i really appreciate it
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: link again
[07:04] <bumzo> when i try change to 'can view and modify contents'' ... i get the error mesage ''Could not change permissions for /media/sda1.''
[07:04] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery:  sudo mount /dev/hdb1 test
[07:04] <c0nv1ct> can anyone tell me how to remove an applet from kicker from the CLI?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:05] <cotyrothery> ok i did that
[07:05] <yuriy> c0nv1ct: i would imagine it's some dcop command but i don't know
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: whatever 'find /boot/grub/stage1' says should be the root and install
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run
[07:06] <Hasrat_USA> a tip that i just discovered from my own experience and wrong-doing and want to share: if you want to play a 3d game, such as tux racer, please please please turn off Beryl and switch to KDE desktop manager first or else x can crash
[07:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate ~/test/boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:06] <bumzo> anytbody pleeeease
[07:06] <DaSkreech> pastebin that
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Byye :)
[07:07] <c0nv1ct> yuriy: well crap, cuz i cant get kicker started, it just crashes
[07:07] <DaSkreech> bumzo: What File system does it have?
[07:07] <yuriy> c0nv1ct: oh. in that case
[07:07] <yuriy> c0nv1ct: there should be a kickerrc file in ~/.kde/share/config
[07:07] <Hasrat_USA> what is kicker?
[07:08] <yuriy> or somewhere in there in .kde
[07:08] <yuriy> Hasrat_USA: the panel
[07:08] <stdin> Hasrat_USA: the panel with the Kmenu and taskbar etc on it
[07:08] <yuriy> c0nv1ct: you should be able to edit the file and remove the applet. or just delete it to go back to the default config
[07:09] <c0nv1ct> yuriy: ah thanks, i was looking in the wrong folder, worked perfect
[07:09] <Hasrat_USA> yuriy: panel...duh oh i haven't been using mocosoft winblows for 4 months but still i cant get used to KDE's terminologies
[07:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: pastebin that file
[07:09] <cotyrothery> i am
[07:09] <cotyrothery> live cd is slow with the internet browser
[07:10] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9392/
[07:14] <deus17> hi i have downloaded all the latest wine packages.... and put in my wow cd
[07:15] <deus17> and it looks ok.. but the text is just alots of []  boxes
[07:15] <deus17> why?
[07:15] <NixHex> you don't have MS fonts installed
[07:15] <deus17> and i also wanna know where i can found grapich card settings for my geforce 6600 256mb pci-e graphich card.?
[07:15] <NixHex> just a guess
[07:15] <deus17> drivers i mean
[07:16] <deus17> how does i install MS fonts?
[07:16] <Hasrat_USA> how does you?
[07:16] <Hasrat_USA> omg
[07:16] <NixHex> I think that card is new enough to use nvidia-glx
[07:16] <deus17> i download the nvidia-glx now
[07:16] <deus17> does i need to do something else?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: 0.o
[07:17] <deus17> and how does i install ms-font?
[07:17] <cotyrothery> what
[07:17] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[07:17] <NixHex> !nvidia | deus17
[07:17] <ubotu> deus17: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Not sure what the dickens is going on
[07:17] <miltos> pls help....
[07:17] <cotyrothery> Waaa
[07:17] <cotyrothery> ??
[07:17] <NixHex> !ask | miltos
[07:17] <ubotu> miltos: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <miltos> I can't manage my accounts anymore!!!!!!!
[07:18] <stdin> deus17: Install "msttcorefonts" (from Multiverse)
[07:18] <NixHex> stdin: thats the one I was looking for....guess thats why there multiple to help
[07:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How many times ahve you installed kubuntu?
[07:19] <deus17> ok il try.. th
[07:19] <deus17> thx*
[07:19] <cotyrothery> twice
[07:19] <cotyrothery> i think
[07:19] <cotyrothery> i tried to install ebuntu
[07:19] <miltos> Whenever I login to my accounts administration via system settings the required password for su administration is rejected by the system...
[07:19] <cotyrothery> and got the same result
[07:19] <stdin> NixHex: I just /msg ubotu fonts, I knew it was in there
[07:20] <NixHex> stdin: yeah I was thinking of doing something like that...but didn't
[07:20] <intelikey> what in the 'by word' is this...    /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh:               exec </dev/null
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Whee :)
[07:20] <DaSkreech> more help
[07:21] <intelikey> exec </dev/null  ?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Ping
[07:21] <intelikey> ping ?
[07:21] <cotyrothery> DaSkreeck now what
[07:21] <cotyrothery> ??
[07:22] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can I ask your opinion on a grub question
[07:22] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah  but what was the   <DaSkreech> intelikey: Ping   in referance to ?
[07:22] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I'm pinging you for a response :)
[07:23] <DaSkreech> You are so not an IRC geek :)
[07:23] <intelikey> oh.  ok.    it's just that i just asked about    exec </dev/null   and  saw that...
[07:23] <DaSkreech> intelikey: in any case cotyrothery has a problem in that he (assuming that cotyrothery is a he) is installing kubuntu but not getting a grub entry
[07:24] <SolidSource> stdin: say, besides #samba is there any other samba channel?
[07:24] <cotyrothery> YES im a he
[07:24] <DaSkreech> so when he reboots he gets no operating system found
[07:25] <stdin> SolidSource: there are a few http://pastebin.ca/387276
[07:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech more likely (though there are other things that cause such)  grub not on the mbr or the disk addressing changed between the install and the boot.   bios's can rearange disks too.  so (hd0) may not be the boot hd.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> intelikey: grub is telling him that stage one is on (hd 1,3)
[07:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech in short check /boot/grub/devices.list first.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> intelikey: but look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9392/
[07:26] <intelikey> k
[07:26] <deus17> when i put in a windows install cd of any software i tried a few... i see start picture and then everything else is black boxes.. no text and no possibility to press ok , install, setup, exit or anything i cant se the text boxes! why?
[07:27] <deus17> i have downloade nvidiga-glx and msfonts
[07:28] <SolidSource> stdin: lol...most are empty
[07:28] <deus17> anyone knows whats wrong?
[07:28] <deus17> :/
[07:28] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, the ones with <<ACTIVE>> should have someone in them, but it could be 1 or 1000 :P
[07:29] <intelikey> DaSkreech ok   and now where's his  /boot/grub/devices.list ?    and the output of   sudo fdisk -l
[07:29] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah...only chanserv is in them...only ones with ppl are the technical and the plain one
[07:30] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: that's you
[07:30] <cotyrothery> what do i do
[07:30] <DaSkreech> alt+f2 -> kdesu kate ~/test/boot/grub/devices.list
[07:30] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:30] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: pastebin that
[07:30] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:30] <intelikey> cotyrothery  pastebin the output of     cat /boot/grub/device.map  ;sudo fdisk -l
[07:31] <DaSkreech> oh
[07:31] <deus17> does i need to reboot after installed msfonts and nvidia-glx ??
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Just follow intelikey :)
[07:31] <stdin> SolidSource: well, according to http://us4.samba.org/samba/irc.html , those are the only 2 official channels anyway
[07:31] <cotyrothery> what do i do
[07:31] <intelikey> well ~/test/boot*  if you are on the live CD and that's where it's mounted.
[07:32] <cotyrothery> so what do i type in
[07:32] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, just they seem to be worthless
[07:32] <intelikey> cotyrothery  pastebin the output of     cat /boot/grub/device.map  ;sudo fdisk -l
[07:32] <SolidSource> stdin: no one ever answers
[07:32] <cotyrothery> were do i get that
[07:32] <intelikey> in a konsole
[07:32] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type that in konsole
[07:32] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:34] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: it's cat ~/test/boot/grub/device.map btw
[07:36] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9395/
[07:37] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok   grep hdb ~/test/boot/grub/device.map      for me please.
[07:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:38] <intelikey> should be one line of output you can put it here
[07:38] <cotyrothery> (hd0)   /dev/hdb
[07:38] <intelikey> k give me a sec.
[07:40] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok do this in that konsole.    sudo chroot ~/test
[07:40] <deus17> when i put in a windows install cd of any software i tried a few... i see start picture and then everything else is black boxes.. no text and no possibility to press ok , install, setup, exit or anything i cant se the text boxes! why?
[07:40] <deus17> i have download the nvidia-glx and ms font packades.. maybe i need reboot after that? or do anything else??
[07:40] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:40] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok next do this in that konsole.    grub-install /dev/hdb
[07:40] <akrus> ] 
[07:40] <akrus> oops
[07:41] <SolidSource> deus17: yes you need to restart x-server
[07:41] <SolidSource> deus17: there is also a need for DLLs...but I don't know where to get those
[07:42] <cotyrothery> it gives me this = Not found or not a block device.
[07:42] <intelikey> cotyrothery ls -l /dev/hdb
[07:42] <cotyrothery> did you want me to put in grub-install
[07:42] <cotyrothery> or grub install
[07:42] <cotyrothery> without -
[07:42] <intelikey> with
[07:42] <cotyrothery> oh
[07:43] <cotyrothery> well it worked without it
[07:43] <intelikey> i don't think so.  but if you say so.
[07:43] <cotyrothery> do you want me to show you what i got
[07:43] <intelikey> try it like i typed it.
[07:43] <cotyrothery> i did and it did not work
[07:43] <intelikey> ok show me.
[07:43] <cotyrothery> here
[07:44] <cotyrothery> or copy and past
[07:44] <intelikey> no dont flood
[07:44] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:44] <intelikey> use the pastebin
[07:45] <intelikey> cotyrothery a paste of one or two lines is fine in an irc channel but over three and you may find yourself outside the channel wonedring why you can't rejoin
[07:45] <cotyrothery> lol
[07:46] <bonbonthejon> anyone got an up-to-date feisty and can double check something for me
[07:46] <cotyrothery> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9396/
[07:46] <crimsun> use #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <crimsun> bonbonthejon: ^
[07:46] <deus17> SolidSource: Wich dlls ? do you know wich one?
[07:46] <bonbonthejon> crimsun: ok
[07:46] <stdin> bonbonthejon: or #kubuntu-devel
[07:46] <intelikey> cotyrothery yes you typed   grub *   you need to exit that.
[07:47] <miltos> I can't login as administrator in order to change/add/delete/modify users accounts, any help?
[07:47] <deus17> SolidSource: And how to restart x-server? is it just to reboot computer or what? im pretty new at ubunut
[07:47] <deus17> ubuntu*
[07:47] <bonbonthejon> miltos: there is no "administrator" there is root
[07:47] <intelikey> cotyrothery you can open a new tab and type in sudo killall grub
[07:48] <allen84us> anyone knwo how to change kde theme?
[07:48] <intelikey> sudo killall grub
[07:48] <miltos> yes, bonbonthejon, I know, the root password is not accessible!
[07:48] <bonbonthejon> deus17: logout, then at the kdm screen, under options or something, there will be a restart x
[07:48] <bonbonthejon> miltos: did you set one?
[07:48] <stdin> !theme | allen84us
[07:48] <ubotu> allen84us: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:48] <stdin> !changethemes | allen84us
[07:48] <ubotu> allen84us: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:48] <allen84us> ok
[07:48] <allen84us> 10s guy
[07:48] <cotyrothery> what do you mean
[07:48] <cotyrothery> open a new tab
[07:49] <cotyrothery> what is sudo killall grub
[07:49] <deus17> okey thx.. but where does i know where to download dlls for my graphic card?? ^^
[07:50] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: in Konsole press ctrl+shift+N
[07:50] <intelikey> cotyrothery what you pastebin'd last is a "grub prompt"  you ran  grub    kill grub  and run  grub-install /dev/hdb
[07:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can't he just press Ctrl+D
[07:51] <intelikey> DaSkreech will that kill grub ?
[07:51] <intelikey> i sujested ^C    or at least thought it really loud
[07:51] <cotyrothery> how do i run grub
[07:51] <stdin> don't you just type "quit" or "exit" it end the grub shell?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Yeah that's what i was thinking
[07:52] <intelikey> DaSkreech raise your kids to listen next time  ;/
[07:52] <miltos> bonbonthejon, yes I set one which doesn't work...
[07:52] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You still have a grub > prompt ?
[07:52] <bonbonthejon> miltos: ok, are you logged in as another user?
[07:52] <cotyrothery> no
[07:53] <intelikey> cotyrothery did you run     grub-install /dev/hdb    ?
[07:53] <seven11> kubuntu feisty channle is what
[07:53] <cotyrothery> do you want me to past what i got
[07:53] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: It's a normal prompt ?
[07:53] <miltos> yes, I logged in as the default user which I set up during installation.
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !ubuntu+1
[07:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:53] <cotyrothery> mkdir: cannot create directory `/boot/grub': Permission denied
[07:53] <seven11> thanks
[07:53] <bonbonthejon> miltos: try "sudo passwd root" to set a new one
[07:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[07:54] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:54] <cotyrothery> ok it is doing something
[07:54] <intelikey> cotyrothery DaSkreech i think he has exited the chroot
[07:55] <KaiHanari> what are some good rgb web cam apps that are command line, to snap an image, and can do YUV, JPEG, or RGB w/ the option of BGR->RGB conversion
[07:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: doh :)
[07:55] <intelikey> i had him sudo chroot so he should have been root in there.
[07:55] <cotyrothery> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[07:55] <DaSkreech> intelikey: yeah I missed that
[07:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: sudo chroot ~/test
[07:55] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:55] <intelikey> oh well.   if yall ever get back to square one  or finished either   let me know.
I just tried sudo passwd root and nothing happend!?!?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> now grub-install /dev/hdb
[07:56] <cotyrothery> "/dev/hdb: Not found or not a block device."
[07:56] <intelikey> miltos    sudo echo boo
[07:57] <DaSkreech> intelikey: there we go
[07:57] <intelikey> miltos if it says boo  then sudo is working if not it's not.
[07:57] <bonbonthejon> miltos: what do you mean nothing happened
[07:57] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ls /dev/hdb
[07:57] <cotyrothery> ls: /dev/hdb: No such file or directory
[07:57] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok do this        cd /dev ;MAKEDEV hd
[07:58] <intelikey> wait
, I got the reply 'miltos is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported'...
[07:58] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok do this        cd /dev &&MAKEDEV hd
[07:58] <intelikey> the dir may not be there.
[07:58] <cotyrothery> which one do i do
[07:58] <intelikey> the last   it's safe
[07:58] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:58] <intelikey> that's why i changed ; to &&   to make it safe
[07:58] <bonbonthejon> miltos: if you do "sudo nano test" does it let you in or block you
[07:59] <cotyrothery> "/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices"
, nothing happens with "sudo nano test'...
[08:00] <intelikey> miltos then you'll have to login as the first user you created on that system  or reboot to safemode
[08:00] <intelikey> cotyrothery that's a wrning not an error
[08:00] <intelikey> warning
[08:01] <cotyrothery> so what do i do
[08:01] <intelikey> and yes i expected it.
[08:01] <kjiij> !ati
[08:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:01] <cotyrothery> ok
, will the safemode load the kde enviroment...or do I have to use the console?
[08:01] <intelikey> cotyrothery did it finish yet ?
[08:01] <cotyrothery> what
[08:01] <intelikey> miltos console prolly
[08:01] <intelikey> the MAKEDEV command it returned to the bash prompt ?
[08:01] <intelikey> cotyrothery ^
[08:02] <cotyrothery> yes
[08:02] <intelikey> cotyrothery    grub-install /dev/hdb
, and what should I type in order to correct the problem?
[08:02] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:02] <cotyrothery> a lot of stuff came u
[08:02] <cotyrothery> up
[08:03] <cotyrothery> now what
[08:03] <intelikey> miltos  passwd     and set a pasword then type   exit    that will set a password for the root account
[08:03] <cotyrothery> what
[08:04] <intelikey> cotyrothery any  "ERROR:"  messages ?
, ok and then i will login as what user?
[08:04] <cotyrothery> no
[08:04] <intelikey> cotyrothery reboot and try it.
[08:04] <cotyrothery> ok see you in a few
[08:04] <cotyrothery> hope to be running this on off the hard disk
[08:04] <cotyrothery> bye
[08:04] <[StingRay] > HI all, my sound card is not listed in lspci (obviously an irq problem as it worked in windows). Can I do something about it?
[08:05] <intelikey> miltos then it will switchto runlevel 2 and put you back where you are now   except there will be a root password so you can use the root account to fix your personal account
, it will switchto...i don't get you...explain...
[08:07] <scotty> Alright, I just did something very very stupid
[08:07] <intelikey> miltos when you exit  the root console  it will switch to runlevel 2  multiuser mode
[08:07] <scotty> I accidently resized my main panel clear down, and now it's off screen, so I can't bring it up to normal size
[08:08] <intelikey> where you are now.   if you could just issue   init 1   you wouldn't need to reboot to get to safe mode
[08:08] <intelikey> but you have to be root to change runlevels
[08:09] <intelikey> scotty alt+f2  type in    kcontrol    and configure the pannel.
[08:10] <scotty> intellikey: I did that, but even if I resize it or move it to the size, it won't show up
[08:10] <Kite_DH> !aptfix
[08:10] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:10] <scotty> *move it to the side
[08:11] <intelikey> scotty does it not give you an option on "placement" ?   place it at the top then back at the bottom.... it will work.     size and placement are both options.
[08:12] <allen84us> how to i put my hdd shortcut in desktp?
[08:12] <intelikey> scotty you can    alt+f2   killall kicker && kicker
[08:12] <scotty> what will that do?
[08:13] <intelikey> allen84us right click
[08:13] <allen84us> then?
[08:13] <intelikey> preferances   show device icons allen84us
[08:13] <intelikey> scotty restarts kicker
[08:14] <scotty> intelikey: I'll try it
[08:14] <Ayabara> I have installed kubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu install. When I use kde, the fonts in apps like xchat, gnome and firefox are _much_ larger than iif I use gnome. Changing fonts in control center didn't help. I could adjust fonts in all the mentioned apps, but I have a feeling there should be a more "centralized" solution
[08:14] <allen84us> i tried
[08:14] <allen84us> but nth appear
[08:15] <intelikey> you selected the box for the mounted partition ?
[08:15] <scotty> intelikey: YOU ARE GOD
[08:15] <intelikey> no i'm not.
[08:15] <intelikey> just close kin
[08:15] <scotty> hehe
[08:15] <intelikey> been adopted.
[08:15] <scotty> Thanks a bunch, man.
[08:15] <intelikey> any time.
[08:15] <elijah> stdin are you there?
[08:16] <stdin> elijah: yeah, for now at least
[08:16] <allen84us> yes
[08:16] <allen84us> i didi it
[08:16] <allen84us> thanks
[08:16] <intelikey> np
[08:17] <intelikey> allen84us one point of interest
[08:17] <otateossian> hello out there
[08:17] <intelikey> a device icon on the desktop makes the device "busy"  so it can't be 'umounted'   just in case you have problems with that.
[08:17] <otateossian> can someone help me
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !someone
[08:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:18] <ubuntu> it did not work
[08:18] <otateossian> i am trying to get wireless to work with ubuntu edgy 6.10
[08:18] <cotyrothery> so i guess i cant run kubuntu on my computer
[08:19] <Kite_DH> !aptfix
[08:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:19] <intelikey> cotyrothery you could use lilo to boot it.
[08:19] <otateossian> i am using a dell with a 3945 wireless card
[08:19] <Kite_DH> grr...
[08:19] <cotyrothery> what is that
[08:19] <kjiij> !ati
[08:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:19] <intelikey> !lilo
[08:19] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[08:19] <cotyrothery> how and were do i use it
[08:19] <otateossian> can someone help me with that??
[08:19] <intelikey> lilo = the LInux LOader
[08:20] <cotyrothery> were is it
[08:20] <intelikey> !info lilo
[08:20] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[08:20] <cotyrothery> were do i get it
[08:20] <intelikey> package manager
[08:21] <cotyrothery> and were is that
[08:21] <otateossian> hello
[08:21] <otateossian> can someone help me
[08:21] <cotyrothery> !ask
[08:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:21] <otateossian> i did
[08:21] <otateossian> i am trying to get wireless to work with ubuntu edgy 6.10
[08:21] <intelikey> !wifi | otateossian
[08:21] <ubotu> otateossian: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:21] <otateossian> i am using a dell with a 3945 wireless card
[08:21] <otateossian> i read it
[08:21] <otateossian> it didnt work
[08:21] <intelikey> otateossian best i can do for ya.
[08:21] <cotyrothery> so were do i find package manager
[08:21] <stdin> cotyrothery: Kmenu -> System -> Adept Manager (Mamage Packages)
[08:22] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: alt+space
[08:22] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:22] <DaSkreech> adept
[08:22] <stdin> s/Mamage/Manage/
[08:22] <lovloss>  My girlfriend is trying to install kubuntu but it just sits there atg 76%
[08:22] <cotyrothery> and what do i do once it is loaded
[08:22] <lovloss> we tried other cds
[08:22] <intelikey> stdin actually he should pivot_root to the installed system first
[08:22] <Hasrat_USA> my gf is beryl :)
[08:23] <lovloss> any suggestions?
[08:23] <cotyrothery> Wait!
[08:23] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:23] <Lynoure> lovloss: Did you check the disk for errors before starting?
[08:24] <lovloss> Lynoure: No, i suppose we could do that... but it seems to work fine. Does 76% normally atke long?
[08:24] <cotyrothery> Some times the computer freezes
[08:24] <allen84us> how to i set my swiftfo as default browser?
[08:24] <lovloss> i already burned her another and it wouldnt even boot up, I/O error
[08:24] <Lynoure> lovloss: In my opinion "just sits at 76%" assuming it's for a really long time, is not "seems to work just fine"
[08:25] <CelestialDog> tried burning at a slower speed?
[08:25] <intelikey> lovloss there is a noticable slow down at about that point.  but if it stops for any extended amount of time it's a problem
[08:25] <allen84us> how to i set my swiftfo as default browser?
[08:25] <allen84us> how to i set my swiftfox as default browser?
[08:25] <Hasrat_USA> probably a problem with the dvd/cdrom drive
[08:25] <Lynoure> lovloss: It always makes sense to check the cd. That's what that feature is there for
[08:25] <lovloss> Okay.... well i suppose we'll see. its scanning now
[08:25] <intelikey> allen84us alternative
[08:25] <allen84us> ya ?
[08:26] <allen84us> alternative??
[08:26] <cotyrothery> ok adept is loaded
[08:26] <cotyrothery> now what
[08:26] <intelikey> allen84us   man update-alternatives
[08:26] <intelikey> cotyrothery close it.
[08:26] <cotyrothery> why
[08:26] <intelikey> cotyrothery is the hdb1 mounted ?
[08:27] <cotyrothery> I dont know
, i've did what you said and the problem remains...
[08:27] <intelikey> why ?   because you don't need it installed in the cd you need it installed in the on disk system
[08:27] <kraut> moin
[08:27] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:27] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:27] <cotyrothery> that makes sense
[08:27] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:28] <cotyrothery> ok so what do i do
[08:28] <intelikey> cotyrothery and it wont autoconfigure  give me a few minutes to catch up.
[08:28] <allen84us> i still cant understand wat the manual page said
[08:28] <allen84us> hehe
[08:28] <fyrmedic> what /dev would I find my GPS data stream on if it is plugged in to a usb?
[08:28] <allen84us> i'm still noob linux
[08:29] <intelikey> miltos sorry what was your issue ?
[08:29] <miltos> I can't set the password for root in order to administrate my accounts in kubuntu
[08:30] <intelikey> miltos oh yeah.   and in the failsafe mode you typed   passwd ?
[08:30] <miltos> yes...
[08:30] <intelikey> and it did what >?
[08:30] <miltos> password changed successfully
[08:31] <intelikey> miltos   in a konsole   su -
[08:31] <CelestialDog> miltos have you tried typing: sudo su ...enter your password and then type psswd to change root pass
[08:31] <intelikey> and use the new password you set
[08:31] <cotyrothery> so intelikey what should i do now
[08:31] <intelikey> CelestialDog sudo is borked.
[08:31] <intelikey> cotyrothery ok mount the hdb1 partition
[08:31] <CelestialDog> thats how i did it ;) lol
[08:31] <cotyrothery> how do i mount it
[08:32] <cotyrothery> sorry i am so new to linux
[08:32] <cotyrothery> but i love it
[08:32] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[08:32] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:32] <miltos> ok I logged in as a root what next...
[08:32] <intelikey> assuming /mnt is a dir
[08:32] <bumzo> how do u instal a .bin file
[08:32] <bumzo> !ntfs
[08:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:32] <bumzo> !ntfs-3g
[08:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:33] <intelikey> miltos nano /etc/group
[08:33] <cotyrothery> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:33] <miltos> ok then what...
[08:33] <intelikey> cotyrothery      typo  yours.
[08:34] <cotyrothery> what
[08:34] <bumzo> !bin
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <bumzo> who in here has installed googleearth?
[08:34] <intelikey> miltos add the user name that you wish to make admin on the end of the line that starts with    admin
[08:34] <cotyrothery> !
[08:34] <cotyrothery> !mount
[08:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:34] <intelikey> cotyrothery      sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[08:34] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:35] <intelikey> Mountainman: can't find /dev/hdb1/mnt<<< missing space.
[08:35] <cotyrothery> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:35] <intelikey> of course it cant.
[08:35] <intelikey> if you ever type it correctly it will
[08:35] <cotyrothery> what do i type
[08:36] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[08:36] <miltos> i put 'root' at the end of the line, correct?
[08:36] <intelikey> miltos no
[08:36] <intelikey> the user account name.
[08:36] <cotyrothery> ok now what
[08:36] <intelikey> miltos     miltos   maybe
[08:36] <miltos> ok...i do the changes...
[08:37] <intelikey> cotyrothery   sudo chroot /mnt
[08:37] <cotyrothery> alright i did that
[08:37] <intelikey> cotyrothery    apt-get install lilo
[08:38] <cotyrothery> ok it is doing something
[08:38] <cotyrothery> it is downloading something
[08:38] <cotyrothery> lilo
[08:39] <cotyrothery> ok now what should i do
[08:39] <intelikey> is it installed ?
[08:40] <cotyrothery> i dont know
[08:40] <bumzo> ok .. i have some big problems here
[08:40] <intelikey> did it say setting up lilo ?
[08:40] <cotyrothery> ya
[08:40] <intelikey> and it returned to the bash prompt ?
[08:40] <cotyrothery> here i will copy and past
[08:41] <cotyrothery> what is the site again
[08:41] <intelikey> !paste
[08:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:41] <intelikey> it's in the channel topic
[08:41] <cotyrothery> thx
[08:41] <intelikey> miltos report ?
[08:42] <intelikey> cotyrothery      nano /etc/lilo
[08:42] <intelikey> no
[08:42] <intelikey> cotyrothery      nano /etc/lilo.conf
[08:42] <bumzo> i cant acces my flash disk
[08:43] <intelikey> can't access ?   splain
[08:43] <miltos> Ok...I did the changes...
[08:43] <intelikey> miltos ok you saved and exited the nano ?
[08:44] <miltos> yes
[08:44] <underdog5004> so, anyone know how to install support for avi w/o automatix? the site is down and I'm pretty much hamstrung...
[08:44] <bumzo> can i install a .BIN file on kubuntu anyone?
[08:44] <bumzo> can i install a .BIN file on kubuntu anyone?
[08:44] <intelikey> miltos su - miltos      assuming the username in question is miltos
[08:44] <userund> underdog5004, what codec?  .avi is just a container
[08:44] <hyper_ch> bumzo: just mount it
[08:44] <cotyrothery> ok what do i do once i have put in nano etc/lilo.conf
[08:44] <underdog5004> lol, I don't know... userund how can I tell?
[08:45] <miltos> ok...now what?
[08:45] <userund> underdog5004, run it in mplayer via command line.  i.e., mplayer file.avi
[08:45] <bumzo> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:45] <bumzo> missing codepage or other error
[08:45] <bumzo> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:45] <bumzo> dmesg | tail or so
[08:45] <bumzo> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[08:45] <intelikey> miltos using  su -   it will treat it as a new login and add the new group.    sudo echo boo
[08:45] <bumzo> thats the error message i get when i try mount my flash
[08:45] <userund> underdog5004, nevermind, I'll just find the command for playback support...
[08:45] <intelikey> that's su - username
[08:45] <userund> !codecs | underdog5004
[08:45] <ubotu> underdog5004: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:45] <intelikey> of course.
[08:46] <miltos> i've got the respond 'boo'
[08:46] <cotyrothery> intelikey what do i do now
[08:46] <intelikey> cotyrothery   http://pastebin.us/?dl=16512
[08:46] <stdin> bumzo: does "pmount /dev/asd1 USBDrive" work?
[08:46] <intelikey> cotyrothery copy and paste that into your nano editor
[08:46] <bumzo> on terminal? ... lemmi try
[08:46] <intelikey> not the rul  the info on that page
[08:46] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:46] <cotyrothery> the url
[08:46] <intelikey> not the rul  the info on that page
[08:47] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:47] <underdog5004> userund, h/o, gotta install mplayer, lol
[08:47] <stdin> bumzo: and don't use sudo with iut
[08:47] <userund> underdog5004, http://tinyurl.com/35m6g4
[08:47] <bumzo> bumzo@Bumzo:~$ pmount /dev/sda1 USBDrive
[08:47] <intelikey> cotyrothery save and exit nano when you have done that.
[08:47] <bumzo> Warning: device /dev/sda1 is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[08:47] <bumzo> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:47] <bumzo>        missing codepage or other error
[08:47] <bumzo>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:47] <bumzo>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:47] <bumzo> bumzo@Bumzo:~$
[08:48] <userund> !paste | bumzo
[08:48] <ubotu> bumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:48] <intelikey> cotyrothery    lilo
[08:48] <bumzo> oops ...sorry abt the paste
[08:48] <miltos> it seems ok now, will I disable root now?
[08:48] <stdin> bumzo: 1st, use pastebin, don't flood, 2nd, why have you put the device in /etc/fstab?
[08:48] <cotyrothery> it is loading something
[08:48] <cotyrothery> when i went to the url
[08:48] <bumzo> cos i installed ntfs-3g
[08:49] <intelikey> cotyrothery you want to view the page.
[08:49] <stdin> bumzo: ok, so it's a ntfs filesystem on the drive
[08:49] <bumzo> exactly
[08:49] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:49] <stdin> bumzo: what does the fstab line look like?
, it seems ok will I disable root from user's account now? or should I leave it enabled?
[08:50] <LL_Hakaisou> !repository
[08:50] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:50] <bumzo> stdin how do i geta look att the fstab line??
[08:50] <intelikey> copy and paste from it.    to   nano /etc/lilo.conf   file        don't just use the downloaded as text file it will have M$ markup that will cause problems.
[08:51] <stdin> bumzo: any way you want, cat, less, kate, etc...
[08:51] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:51] <cotyrothery> so i copy to nano etc/lilo.conf
[08:51] <intelikey> miltos you should be able to.  also you could just issue     sudo passwd -dl root
[08:51] <bumzo> how do i use kate?
[08:52] <stdin> bumzo: open Kate, from the Kmenu, and File -> Open -> /etc/fstab
[08:52] <miltos> "sudo passwd -dl root' will do what?
[08:52] <cotyrothery> it will not let me copy it
[08:52] <intelikey> miltos if sudo is working locking the root account is bubutu advice.    my personal advice is that if it's a home pc  set a good strong root password   you never know when you may want to use it.
[08:52] <cotyrothery> nevermind it copied
[08:53] <intelikey> miltos "sudo passwd -dl root' will do what?  <<<  will lock the root account
[08:53] <cotyrothery> so i copied it to the shell
[08:53] <cotyrothery> now do i save it
[08:53] <intelikey> -d delete the password   -l lock the account
[08:53] <intelikey> yes
[08:53] <miltos> ok I will lock it...
[08:53] <cotyrothery> how do i save it
[08:53] <intelikey> cotyrothery yes   ^x
, thanks for your help...
[08:53] <bumzo> am on kate ...how do i get to etc/fstab
[08:54] <intelikey> the how is at the bottom of the exitor
[08:54] <intelikey> editor
[08:54] <intelikey> miltos np
[08:54] <stdin> bumzo: like I said, File -> Open
[08:54] <stdin> bumzo: then type in /etc/fatab
[08:54] <cotyrothery> so i just exit
[08:54] <stdin> bumzo: then click "open"
[08:54] <intelikey> cotyrothery the nano editor  yes
[08:54] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:55] <cotyrothery> were is that symbole
[08:55] <intelikey> it will ask about saving the changes
[08:55] <intelikey> it's the ctrl key
[08:55] <cotyrothery> the up symbol
[08:55] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:55] <bumzo> The file file://%20/etc/fatab could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[08:55] <allen84us> y my network DNS always reset when reboot?
[08:55] <allen84us> how to fix it ?
[08:56] <cotyrothery> ok it is asking me something else
[08:56] <stdin> bumzo: don't pit a space before the name
[08:56] <intelikey> cotyrothery  y
[08:56] <cotyrothery> File Name to Write: /etc/lilo.conf
[08:56] <intelikey> cotyrothery enter
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> !mp3
[08:56] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:56] <intelikey> cotyrothery  type    lilo
[08:56] <cotyrothery>   [ Error writing /etc/lilo.conf: Permission denied ] 
[08:57] <allen84us> my dns keep reseting after reboot
[08:57] <allen84us> how to fx it ?
[08:57] <intelikey> did you exit the chroot ?     or what happened there ?
[08:57] <Thonolan> hello i have installed beryl it works ,I have activate the cube desktop but it doesnt show me one cube i use edgy eft kubuntu
[08:57] <allen84us> chroot?
[08:57] <intelikey> i give up.
[08:58] <cotyrothery>  WriteOut
[08:58] <cotyrothery> Read File ^Y
[08:58] <cotyrothery> Prev Page
[08:58] <stdin> Thonolan: you have to hold Ctrl-Alt, then either use the arrow keys, or click and drag
[08:58] <cotyrothery> Cut Text
[08:58] <cotyrothery> Cur Pos
[08:58] <cotyrothery> To Spell
[08:58] <cotyrothery> UnCut Txt
[08:59] <cotyrothery> Next Page
[08:59] <cotyrothery> Where Is
[08:59] <intelikey> and each of those commands has a corisponding  ^?
[08:59] <cotyrothery> Justify
[08:59] <cotyrothery> yes
[08:59] <cotyrothery> Exit
[08:59] <cotyrothery> Get Help
[08:59] <Thonolan> stdin nothing happens if i press this
[09:00] <stdin> Thonolan: have you turned beryl on, from the beryl manager? the icon in the system tray?
[09:00] <cotyrothery> me yes
[09:00] <cotyrothery> my first time using linux
[09:00] <Thonolan> stdin yes
[09:01] <stdin> Thonolan: do you see the effects then?
[09:01] <Thonolan> yes
[09:01] <Thonolan> windows minimize different
[09:01] <Thonolan> as from kde
[09:01] <cotyrothery> what do i do intelikey
[09:02] <intelikey> cotyrothery save the text to ~/lilo.conf
[09:02] <intelikey> or some place... /tmp/lilo.conf  maybe
[09:02] <intelikey> idk.
[09:03] <intelikey> adc
[09:04] <cotyrothery> i have no clue what to do
[09:04] <cotyrothery> ^G Get Help         ^T To Files         M-M Mac Format      M-P Prepend
[09:04] <cotyrothery> ^C Cancel           M-D DOS Format      M-A Append          M-B Backup File
[09:05] <bentob0x> my colleague has ubuntu and got an upgrade on his vim this morning to version 7.0.164, is it a gnome-specific upgrade or will it take a while to reach KDE?
[09:05] <cotyrothery> which one do i do
[09:06] <cotyrothery> intelikey
[09:06] <eXistenZ> bentob0x, I'm using KDE, got the same upgrade.
[09:07] <intelikey> cotyrothery i'm going to cut this short.   the information form  http://pastebin.us/16513   needs to be in  /etc/lilo.conf  on the installed system  and you need to run   lilo   on the installed system  that's all there is to it.      anyone in here can help you do that.              again i mention  that in all those "^G Get Help         ^T To Files "  you have been mentioning.  the   ^ means hold down the ctrl key   and 
[09:07] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:08] <intelikey> good luck with it.   i'll check on you later.
[09:08] <allen84us> i got 1 question
[09:08] <bentob0x> eXistenZ: do you have kubuntu distro or another one?
[09:08] <c0nv1ct> does anyone else have problems with kdesu?
[09:08] <allen84us> my processor is sempron64 2800+
[09:08] <eXistenZ> bentob0x, kubuntu
[09:08] <allen84us> which kernel more suit for me ?
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: and who is me?
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: i mean... define 'me'
[09:09] <allen84us> huh?
[09:09] <allen84us> cant get u
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: how can we know what kernel will suit you, if we dont know you
[09:09] <allen84us> wat do u mean ?
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: you need to explain more
[09:10] <allen84us> my processor is sempron64 2800+
[09:10] <allen84us> sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: i'm not familiar with any problems with kernels and that CPU
[09:10] <allen84us> sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[09:10] <allen84us> oo...
[09:11] <allen84us> i not sure which correct kernel to pick
[09:11] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: which kernel was installed by default?
[09:11] <cotyrothery> I QUIT
[09:11] <cotyrothery> this is to much
[09:12] <allen84us> default is 386
[09:12] <allen84us> which i'm using currently
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> i'd just stick with that, unless you have a specific need for a different one
[09:12] <wayne_norris> good morning ^^
[09:13] <cotyrothery> it is 3:11 am here
[09:13] <allen84us> but i saw in ubuntu forum that ...pick correct kernel will boost ur system
[09:13] <allen84us> is ti true ?
[09:13] <cotyrothery> I have been tring to get kubuntu working for 5 hours straight
[09:14] <allen84us> any1 know more abt kernel /
[09:14] <allen84us> ?
[09:15] <kjiij> hi after installing ati following the !ati , fglrixinfo shows
[09:15] <kjiij> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[09:15] <kjiij> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20060327 AGP 1x NO-TCL
[09:15] <kjiij> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[09:15] <kjiij> is itcorrect?
[09:16] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: according to the forums, the K7 kernel is what you want
[09:16] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: i dont think that is dual core, so u dont need the SMP one
[09:16] <allen84us> yea
[09:16] <allen84us> but if install worng kernel
[09:16] <allen84us> wat basically will happen ?
[09:16] <kjiij> but lspci shows 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[09:17] <kjiij> why is it mesa now?
[09:17] <intelikey> cotyrothery did you ever get that file saved ?
[09:18] <c0nv1ct> allen84us: just boot to an older kernel
[09:18] <cotyrothery> no
[09:18] <intelikey> or did you ever at least just exit nano ?
[09:18] <cotyrothery> i gave up
[09:18] <cotyrothery> i cant take any more
[09:18] <allen84us> there got choice to select it b4 booting rite ?
[09:18] <cotyrothery> it is 3:11 am here
[09:18] <intelikey> ok get some sleep.
[09:18] <cotyrothery> i have been at it all day
[09:18] <cotyrothery> and night
[09:19] <intelikey> shouldn't start at 10pm installing a new os anyway
[09:19] <allen84us> i got 1 more question
[09:19] <allen84us> after i installed kde n my ubuntu dapper
[09:19] <allen84us> my dns always reseting after reboot
[09:19] <allen84us> how to fix it?
[09:19] <cotyrothery> why not
[09:19] <hw> !init
[09:19] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:19] <cotyrothery> i started this morning
[09:19] <intelikey> cause "THIS"  happens.
[09:20] <cotyrothery> I first tried to install ebuntu all day
[09:20] <cotyrothery> then i tried kubuntu
[09:20] <cotyrothery> so about 12 hours
[09:20] <cotyrothery> non stop
[09:20] <cotyrothery> tring to get it to work
[09:22] <cotyrothery> ok i think im about to go
[09:22] <hw> hmm, I miss my initab =)
[09:22] <cotyrothery> I'll go at this for another 12 hours tommorow
[09:22] <intelikey> cotyrothery  alt+f2   and type in   kdesu kate /mnt/etc/lilo.conf     copy and paste the text in there
[09:23] <hw> What has happend to inittab on (k)ubuntu?
[09:23] <intelikey> open a new konsole and type in   sudo chroot /mnt lilo
[09:23] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:23] <intelikey> then reboot  or shut down and go to bed.
[09:24] <cotyrothery> great ides
[09:24] <cotyrothery> idea
[09:24] <cotyrothery> i cant even type right
[09:24] <unZo> good morning
[09:24] <intelikey> yea i noticed that eariler.   missing spaces  removing dashes and adding spaces....   which all adds to your frustration...
[09:25] <cotyrothery> LOL
[09:25] <cotyrothery> x_x
[09:25] <intelikey> and we get 'help desk burn-out'   because of it.
[09:25] <cotyrothery> will you be on later today
[09:25] <intelikey> maybe.
[09:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:26] <luke_> hey, does anyone know how to open KDM in a nested window?
[09:26] <cotyrothery> what time is it were you are
[09:26] <intelikey> someone will.
[09:26] <intelikey> idk 1 something
[09:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:26] <cotyrothery> well im going
[09:26] <cotyrothery> cya
[09:26] <unZo> can somebody help me please... i have installed kubunto dapper drake 2 times now and it wouldnt work... after the installation reboot the kernel said that he cannot find a few dirs :)
[09:27] <luke_> unZo: install Edgy, see if that works
[09:27] <unZo> edgy works
[09:27] <unZo> @ luke_
[09:27] <DaSkreech> luke_: qemu or xnest
[09:27] <DaSkreech> intelikey: good night
[09:28] <luke_> unZo: you should use Edgy then, it is better than Dapper anyways
[09:28] <unZo> mhh
[09:29] <unZo> luke_ but the official website sais that edgy is better 4 devellopers and so on and that dapper is reallly stable and better for linux beginners :)
[09:30] <luke_> unZo: Dapper and Edgy are pretty much the same, except Edgy has later versions and is generally more up-to-date
[09:31] <luke_> unZo: it is just as user friendly believe me
[09:31] <DaSkreech> luke_: It's pritter
[09:31] <DaSkreech> prettier
[09:31] <luke_> that is true :)
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I so need to sleep
[09:32] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[09:33] <Jucato> go to sleep then
[09:33] <luke_> I have installed xnest, now what command would I use to launch KDM with it?
[09:33] <Jucato> :P
[09:33] <Jucato> You can't have 2 KDM's running, even w/ Xnest/Xephyr afaik
[09:34] <luke_> Jucato: can I run GDM in a nested window then?
[09:34] <Jucato> afaik, nope
[09:35] <luke_> Jucato, you can, I've done it, I just can't remember how I did it :p
[09:35] <Jucato> if you say so
[09:36] <luke_> jucato: it went something line gdm --xnest
[09:36] <luke_> :)
[09:36] <luke_> short & sweet
[09:39] <c0nv1ct> after reinstalling kubuntu, my middle mouse button seems to be set as a shortcut to "paste" anyone know where these shortcuts are set?
[09:39] <c0nv1ct> it functions normally everywhere else, which is odd
[09:43] <ahvargas> hi anyone ther
[09:43] <ahvargas> e?
[09:43] <c0nv1ct> no
[09:43] <ahvargas> somebody know how to add user
[09:43] <ahvargas> without the adduser command
[09:43] <ahvargas> ?
[09:43] <c0nv1ct> in kcontrol
[09:44] <ahvargas> no with a script
[09:44] <ahvargas> like tweakin /etc/shadow
[09:44] <ahvargas> and /etc/passwd
[09:44] <c0nv1ct> without using 'useradd' ?
[09:44] <luke_> why can't you just use adduser?
[09:44] <ahvargas> aha
[09:45] <intelikey> useradd accepts an non-interactive commandline
[09:45] <ahvargas> ?
[09:45] <ahvargas> i want to run this script in java
[09:45] <ahvargas> with System.exec("adduser")
[09:45] <ahvargas> but it prompts for the passwd
[09:46] <intelikey> so use useradd in place of adduser
[09:46] <ahvargas> yes
[09:46] <luke_> Jucato: found it! the command is gdmXnest
[09:46] <c0nv1ct> ahvargas: if you google a bit, you will find bash scripts for useradd, that might help
[09:47] <ahvargas> ok thanks
[09:47] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:47] <ahvargas> but the really question  is
[09:47] <ahvargas> how do i pass
[09:48] <ahvargas> arguments to adduser
[09:48] <ahvargas> like the password
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> wow, that pastebin server is mad slow for me
[09:49] <ahvargas> i read the man page
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> ahvargas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9401/
[09:50] <ahvargas> but only says something about    --disabled-passwor
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> thats a bash script for adding users, with easy syntax
[09:50] <ahvargas> thanks
[09:50] <ahvargas> i will check it
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> its just script.sh username password
[09:51] <ahvargas> thanks
[09:51] <ahvargas> thats what i need
[09:51] <ahvargas> you rock
[09:52] <intelikey> useradd -p passwd username
[09:52] <c0nv1ct> well, that script wont require a '-p' lol
[09:53] <intelikey> c0nv1ct had nothing to do with your script.
[09:53] <intelikey> you reinvented the wheel
[09:54] <intelikey> congrats
[09:54] <c0nv1ct> a wheel that requires 2 less characters to function
[09:54] <c0nv1ct> and i didnt invent anything, someone else did and google found it
[09:55] <ahvargas> but -p password
[09:55] <ahvargas> acoording to the manual
[09:55] <ahvargas> is encripted
[09:55] <fignew> is there a way to mark files as non-deleteable?
[09:55] <ahvargas> who do i encrypt the passwd?
[09:55] <c0nv1ct> fignew: unwritable?
[09:56] <fignew> c0nv1ct: I suppose, but chmod doesn't prevent the file from being deleted
[09:56] <fignew> hmm, I suppose I could change the owner
[09:56] <intelikey> fignew man chattr
[09:57] <intelikey> you can    chown root:root blah ;chmod 000 blah    and if blah is in a dir you own you can still   rm blah
[09:57] <fignew> thanks intelikey
[09:58] <fignew> I still want to be able to read it though ;)
[09:58] <fignew> that will work though
[09:59] <fignew> chattr u
[09:59] <intelikey> +a is a normall  attribute
[10:00] <intelikey> append only.
[10:00] <intelikey> for protected files that is.  ^
[10:00] <fignew> ah
[10:01] <fignew> thomas@ambient:~/.sheep$ chattr +a mo
[10:01] <fignew> chattr: Operation not permitted while setting flags on mo
[10:01] <c0nv1ct> use sudo
[10:02] <fignew> same with sudo
[10:02] <intelikey> that protects the data in them but leaves them writable   you can add to them but can't take away.
[10:02] <fignew> well, no flags are working
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> ls
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> wups
[10:02] <intelikey> root only
[10:02] <intelikey> sudo
[10:02] <intelikey> if users could chattr it wouldn't be worth anything.
[10:03] <fignew> thomas@ambient:~/.sheep$ sudo chattr +u mo
[10:03] <fignew> chattr: Operation not supported while setting flags on m
[10:03] <fignew> could it be because I'm using XFS?
[10:03] <intelikey> fignew this is on a linux fs ?
[10:03] <ber> Is there a place to follow the changes made to new packages/updates?
[10:03] <fignew> yes, XFS :)
[10:04] <intelikey> yep
[10:04] <ber> adept-updater has updates available for me but often I have no clue what is actually changes/updated
[10:04] <fignew> so that's the problem, eh?
[10:04] <fignew> that's silly
[10:04] <ber> -- besides reading the debian security mailinglist, that is.
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> ls
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> shit
[10:05] <intelikey> fignew i'm not familear with xfs but i'd bet ya half of nothing, that that's the problem.
[10:05] <fignew> c0nv1ct: before too long you'll be typing your root PW in here
[10:06] <fignew> intelikey: That's ok, I still love it as an FS
[10:06] <intelikey> there is a  lsattr command also
[10:06] <Frost^> Hello. Can anyone help me a little regarding screen resolution and refresh rate? For some reason my KDE session uses a bad refresh rate, even though KDM uses the correct refresh rate
[10:06] <c0nv1ct> fignew: yeah, i gotta close some windows or use my desktops, too much crap
[10:06] <Frost^> I'm pretty clueless as to what causes it to change once I log in
[10:07] <intelikey> set it from kde's menu
[10:07] <nonuda_> i have a pcmcia modem, is kubuntu can automatically detect it?
[10:07] <Frost^> It doesn't let me choose the correct refresh rate
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: in systemsettings, edit your monitor type
[10:08] <Frost^> and it doesn't let me choose "nvidia" as a driver, only "nv"
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> its probably your monitor settings thats getting in the way
[10:08] <intelikey> nonuda_ probably   but it's probably a winmodem and that's gona be a problem
[10:08] <hole> what is the apt-get package for the kernel source tree
[10:08] <Frost^> But KDM is looking fine..
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: go into systemsettings and select Monitor & Display
[10:09] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: then under the Hardware tab, configure your monitor
[10:09] <Frost^> It is configured.
[10:09] <nonuda_> its not a winmodem, btw i was succed installed a winmodem before (slamr)
[10:09] <intelikey> !nv | Frost^
[10:09] <ubotu> Frost^: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <Frost^> The driver is installed, my X is running it, but it's not in KDE's list
[10:09] <hole> oh goodness i'
[10:10] <hole> m having nvidia trouble tooo
[10:10] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: i was able to configure my resolutions without having to do anything with the default driver
[10:10] <Frost^> I had a dist-upgrade to feisty, by the way.
[10:11] <intelikey> c0nv1ct responding to "doesn't let me choose "nvidia" as a driver, only "nv""
[10:11] <intelikey> feisty ?
[10:11] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: in systemsettings, it says nv regardless of whether or not you installed the true nvidia driver
[10:11] <intelikey> !feisty
[10:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:11] <intelikey> #ununtu+1
[10:12] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: you can select a generic monitor with whatever resolution and refresh rate you want
[10:12] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: that will force your desktop to use your preferred res
[10:14] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: I'll give it a go. Thanks.
[10:14] <KennethP> ber: Look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:16] <elijah> how will i install wine
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> elijah: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:16] <hole> will the nvidia drivers make a nvidia splash screen like in suse
[10:16] <hole> ?
[10:17] <elijah> ok thanks
[10:17] <compilerwriter> Anybody try the Xnyth desktop?
[10:17] <orange_> how do i delete multiple files/folders in cmdline?
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> hole: by default yes, but u can disable it
[10:17] <hole> no i like it
[10:17] <hole> makes me feel smart
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> orange_: entire folders recursively?
[10:18] <orange_> sudo rm /usr/lib/eclipse/*
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> orange_: add -rf
[10:18] <orange_> it has sub directories so..
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> it will delete everything inside there
[10:18] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: It's a no go.
[10:18] <hole> eesh its a big file
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: the resolution wasnt available in the slider?
[10:19] <orange_> thanks c0nv1ct
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: once you set the monitor, in the "Size" tab the resolution slider should allow you to go higher
[10:19] <Frost^> It was. I chose it and clicked apply. It then asks me to restart X server. I does so, and it doesn't work because the tool changes the driver in my xorg.conf to "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[10:19] <Frost^> I replace "nv" with "nvidia" manually, and restart X
[10:19] <hole> will konsole run on gnome?
[10:19] <orange_> c0nv1ct: there is a hidden file inside that didnt get erased
[10:19] <Frost^> And the refresh rate is still the same.
[10:20] <hole> i want a transparent console
[10:20] <hole> oop gunna try that nvidia driver now
[10:20] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: can you modify it using 'nvidia-settings' ?
[10:21] <Noah0504> Hey everyone.  I'm a Ubuntu Dapper user and I've been reading a lot about Kubuntu and KDE.  I messed around with Kubuntu a little, but I was wondering if some of you could tell me what you like most about Kubuntu.
[10:21] <underdog5004> Noah0504, there's a lot of configurability
[10:22] <underdog5004> I like it, cause it's easy to use, and applications are grouped very sensibly
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: you may want to reinstall your nvidia drivers, if the fiesty upgrade used the driver it comes with
[10:22] <orange_> i flip'd a coin and just picked kubuntu - been so good - nvr tried ubuntu  - thou the difference isnt that great
[10:22] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: Hmm, I tried with nvidia-settings. Let me see now, brb
[10:22] <Noah0504> I see.
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> Noah0504: i just like all the apps for KDE, though they can be run in gnome
[10:23] <Noah0504> Yeah, but the UIs don't always run perfectly I find.
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> Noah0504: i just noticed that i prefered QT versions of all the apps i used, so i just went full KDE
[10:23] <orange_> how do i list all the hidden files in cmdline and delete them
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> Noah0504: yeah, when running them in gnome, it can look weird
[10:24] <noiesmo> orange_, ls .* should list them
[10:24] <c0nv1ct> Noah0504: i never liked nautilus either
[10:24] <Noah0504> Hmm, I might have to give Kubuntu a week or so trial run...
[10:24] <c0nv1ct> orange_: ls -a shows hidden files, if thats what u are asking
[10:25] <Noah0504> I have a newer laptop, so it shouldn't matter, but is KDE pretty snappy and responsive?
[10:25] <Frost^> Why the hell is kde so stubborn to change my refresh rate all the time
[10:25] <c0nv1ct> still doesnt work?
[10:25] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: I guess it didn't work either.
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: man, its probably your nvidia driver then
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: i cant think of any other way to change your resolution
[10:26] <Frost^> I was able to change it using nvidia-settings
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> but it didnt stick?
[10:26] <Frost^> but when I log in, it reverts back to the old refresh rate
[10:27] <orange_> Frost^: are you following a guide or is c0nv1ct guiding you during the whole install. I have a useful guide somewhere if u need
[10:27] <c0nv1ct> orange_: hes just trying to change his resolution right now
[10:27] <orange_> fyi - if u go to system settings and change any thing in monitor & display - it will revert things back
[10:27] <c0nv1ct> orange_: that was the first thing we tried :P
[10:28] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: what if you remove every resolution from xorg.conf except the one you want?
[10:28] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: resolution is not the problem.
[10:28] <orange_> i kept using monitor & display - caused so much problems with res / refresh rates   etc
[10:28] <Frost^> It's the refresh rate
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: the modes are listed with res and refresh
[10:29] <Frost^> Well, I'll try hacking xorg.conf then.
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: back it up first :P
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> stating the obvious i know
[10:30] <Frost^> Taking risks is fun ;)
[10:30] <orange_> Frost^:  you added nv to restricted modules?
[10:30] <Frost^> Ah, not that I know of. What are restricted modules?
[10:30] <orange_> sec
[10:31] <c0nv1ct> orange_: did you figure out how to delete all the hidden files?
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> orange_: i just remembered
[10:32] <orange_> c0nv1ct: i got done with the wildcard listing then manual erase
[10:33] <orange_> sudo nano -w /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:33] <c0nv1ct> orange_: that works, but u can do rm -rf .* to remove the hidden stuff all at once
[10:33] <deathnote> hi i'm making a script.. purpose is to copy file abc.xxx and abcxyz.xxx to ../destination ..but i only want 1 input eg: test abc.xxx   , then it will copy both abc.xxx and abcxyz.xxx
[10:33] <deathnote> i tried using $1
[10:33] <deathnote> how to add a xyz before the extension .xxx ?
[10:33] <orange_> scroll down to bottom and edit DISABLED_MODULES="" to DISABLED_MODULES=:
[10:33] <orange_> err
[10:34] <orange_> to DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[10:34] <Frost^> Hmm, what will it do?
[10:34] <c0nv1ct> it disables the old nv module
[10:34] <c0nv1ct> or else both the new nvidia module and nv will load at boot
[10:35] <orange_> prevent ubuntu's nvidia driver in the restricted modules from being loaded at boot
[10:35] <Frost^> [sweiss@raviv2 ~] $ sudo rmmod nv
[10:35] <Frost^> ERROR: Module nv does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:35] <Frost^> I guess it wasn't loaded anyway
[10:35] <Frost^> Anyway, time to see if my xorg.conf hacking worked.
[10:35] <Frost^> Brb, I hope/
[10:36] <orange_> http://albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_edgy.html#METHOD_2
[10:36] <orange_> 5 fresh installs and 5 times i installed those nvidia drivers down + dell wifi -- only thing im good at for now
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> sometimes i dont understand bittorrent
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> 1000 seeds, 100 peers, and i'm stalled with 2mb to go
[10:41] <elijah> i tried "sudo apt-get install wine" but it says that "package is not available"
[10:41] <orange_> wat ya dling
[10:41] <elijah> why is that?
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> Hinder's new album
[10:42] <orange_> c0nv1ct: wats a good network monitor - similar to DUmeter
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> orange_: not sure, i havent used one in a long time
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> elijah: you might need to enable the universe and/or multiverse repos
[10:44] <elijah> how's that?
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> elijah: uncomment them in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <orange_> elijah:  adapt - edit -> manage repositories
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> elijah: or that too
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> elijah: then refresh, or apt-get update
[10:45] <elijah> i'll try, thank you so much
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> is wine a restricted package? i dunno i always enable those repos
[10:45] <orange_> i enable them all
[10:46] <orange_> now to make a nice lil java applet that will count 0 to infinity - see how high this pc can go
[10:47] <TheInfinity> really good idea :p
[10:47] <TheInfinity> endless loop? :p
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> not a loop, but endless right?
[10:47] <orange_> actionscript - i was able to get around 32k
[10:47] <orange_> endless yes
[10:48] <orange_> anyone here know java?
[10:48] <rada> hi, I just can't connect to wep secured wireless network from kubuntu ..
[10:49] <TheInfinity> orange_: studied it 1 year additional to physics
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> i need to learn to program :\
[10:50] <TheInfinity> buy a book
[10:50] <orange_> classes consist of methods and properties - yet we code in them
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> i got some books, just never got started
[10:50] <orange_> it defeats the purpose - i feel like im using the wrong filetype
[10:50] <TheInfinity> c0nv1ct: then you need just a little motivation ;p
[10:51] <elijah> hey convict, which ones am i going to uncomment in repositories?
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> i'm not sure exactly where wine is
[10:51] <orange_> c0nv1ct: Go pick up flash - it makes learning coding fun since you can control pictures *much better then a constant black screen*
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> you'd probably be fine uncommenting them all, i think theres 4 total
[10:52] <orange_> code*
[10:52] <TheInfinity> orange_: flash is ... uaaaaahhhh ;)
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> orange_: i was just trying to learn flash before i installed ubuntu
[10:52] <elijah> is it really ssahe?
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> orange_: i got a nice video tutorial, lol
[10:52] <orange_> TheInfinity: i enjoy'd flash - its very similar to java
[10:52] <eXistenZ> What might interfere with xmodmap in KDE?
[10:52] <TheInfinity> if you like start from beginning - use scheme
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> elijah: yeah its safe, just dont install or upgrade any packages that you dont know what they are
[10:52] <orange_> I have all the tutorials from lynda.org + various others
[10:53] <TheInfinity> and then java or c++
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> yeah, lynda.com ones
[10:53] <TheInfinity> its a littly "dry" and boring
[10:53] <TheInfinity> but you understand the basics
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> i just snagged the PS CS2, Dreamweaver and Flash ones
[10:53] <orange_> I first started with a book in C but that quickly got very very boring
[10:54] <orange_> went to school to learn java - it was so-so -- seeing how others write code etc - but the video tuts really help keep it interesting
[10:54] <TheInfinity> i started with pascal in school, then delphi, then c++, then php, scheme, java, ... and soon i want to learn phyton *g*
[10:55] <orange_> write anything nice?
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> i started to learn BASIC when i was 8, we had a TI "home computer" with a BASIC prompt
[10:55] <TheInfinity> something for a game project wich i cant publish in c++
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> but thats as far as i ever got, lol
[10:55] <rada> anybody is connected via secured wireless?
[10:55] <TheInfinity> scheme and java was for uni
[10:56] <TheInfinity> i am connected via WPA2
[10:56] <Frost^> Hello again.
[10:56] <Frost^> Adding that restricted module caused my "nvidia" module not to be loaded either.
[10:57] <orange_> does java have associative arrays?
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: have you updated your nvidia driver lately?
[10:57] <Frost^> And my refresh rate is still lame. I don't understand where it's picking its settings from.
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: like, since you dist-upgraded to feisty?
[10:57] <Frost^> c0nv1ct: I have. It was updated when I dist-upgraded.
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: you didnt upgrade afterward?
[10:58] <Frost^> Nope.
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: cuz Feisty installs an older driver
[10:58] <rada> TheInfinity: I don't know how to type WEP key. The settings are working from win but linux
[10:58] <Frost^> I dist-upgraded only yesterday
[10:58] <TheInfinity> yes java has as. arrays
[10:58] <Frost^> Well, basically, I did it today.
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: Feisty uses an older version than 9746, and 9755 just came out
[10:58] <Frost^> apt says I have the latest version of it installed.
[10:58] <TheInfinity> i use knetworkmanager to manage my network connections
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> apt doesnt look on nvidia.com :P
[10:59] <Frost^> Hmm, do you think that is the cause?
[10:59] <orange_> TheInfinity: is that the one that makes that buzzing sound?
[10:59] <rada> TheInfinity: I use "wireless assistant"
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> Frost^:  probably, especially now that you disabled the 'nv' module
[10:59] <TheInfinity> if yes then it does not like my audigy 2 USB ;)
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: i think orange_ was assuming you installed newer drivers
[10:59] <TheInfinity> i never heard anything
[10:59] <Frost^> KDM uses the correct refresh rate. It only changes when my user logs in.
[11:00] <ekul`> how do i get rid of the kubuntu loading screen?
[11:00] <ekul`> want the ubuntu one back :(
[11:01] <orange_> Frost^: my bad, thought you was going for newest
[11:01] <Frost^> I think it's more of a configuration issue than the actual driver,,
[11:01] <ekul`> !loading
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loading - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <Frost^> I can get the proper refresh rate when I use ctrl+alt++
[11:06] <jimoftheboro> +
[11:09] <e1mer> anyone knows where can i download the kernel-headers for 2.6.15-27-386 release?
[11:10] <orange_> TheInfinity: still here?
[11:12] <crazy_bus> I insterted into my sources list the sourses listed on kubuntu.org for koffice 1.6.2 .  I also downloaded and loaded the key.  However I know get these errors.  Why is this? W: GPG error: http://www.mirrorservice.org edgy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>
[11:14] <TheInfinity> yes
[11:14] <orange_> can you help me with something-- trying to bring this whole thing into perspective
[11:15] <Vincent_k> !feisty
[11:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:15] <orange_> the purpose of class files are to provide methods + properties - that are reuseable - like the class math.round or the movieclip class
[11:15] <TheInfinity> perhaps ... but if you refer to programming itmay take some time because i didnt progrm for several month
[11:15] <e1mer> anyone knows where can i download the kernel-headers for 2.6.15-27-386 release?
[11:16] <orange_> classes are just external files - used in ______
[11:16] <orange_> fill in the blank - i dont know
[11:16] <orange_> I don't want to write class files - I want to just write code and call upon class files
[11:16] <TheInfinity> you can also have many classes in one file ...(although this would be a bad programming style)
[11:16] <orange_> if they are needed
[11:17] <orange_> what is 'this' called
[11:17] <TheInfinity> when you use them you have an object
[11:18] <TheInfinity> if i understand your question right ;)
[11:19] <orange_> i dont even get it myself - its like blargblahbla -- i cant pinpoint what im trying to figure out. I just know its wrong to use class files - since they are designed to take in input and return a value by using a method or property
[11:19] <orange_> whats the parent of class files
[11:20] <orange_> that about sums it up -- whose the parent of the class file - the one who calls the class files
[11:20] <ekul`> !usplash
[11:20] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:20] <intelikey> what will happen if you call killall5 from a script ?   will it kill the script ?
[11:22] <intelikey> i'm trying to keep this install of ubuntu as default as possable  but it starts all these things that i realy don't want to run....   so if i put   killall5 in an init script will it kill the script or will it go ahead and run whatever follows ?
[11:23] <intelikey> guess i'll just have to test it and see...
[11:23] <c0nv1ct> why not just remove the init scripts you dont want?
[11:24] <intelikey> see part one ^ "i'm trying to keep this install of ubuntu as default as possable"
[11:24] <TheInfinity> orange_: this depends on your settings which your start class is
[11:24] <c0nv1ct> killing them isnt very 'default' either
[11:25] <intelikey> i didn't say i wanted to run like a default ubuntu...
[11:25] <c0nv1ct> i'd just make a backup of the init script dir, and then delete whatever i dont want running
[11:25] <c0nv1ct> then i could revert to default easily
[11:25] <intelikey> heh far from it.  but i'm trying to "not alter the files" anymore than absolutely nessecary
[11:27] <Frost^> c0nv1ct and orange_: It seems the "Monitor & display" tool is lying.
[11:27] <c0nv1ct> lol
[11:27] <Frost^> I solved my problem. The tool offered me 2 refresh rates to pick from.
[11:27] <Frost^> one was 51 and 65.
[11:27] <intelikey> it's not about reverting to default.   it's about being able to say... "let me look"   and actually seeing what others see...   i haven't done that in so long,  heh i can't even stand the defaults...
[11:27] <Frost^> Anyway, the 65 choice was actually lower than the 51 choice.
[11:28] <Frost^> Choosing the 51 refresh rate I got my good refresh rate back, which is 75hz in reality.
[11:28] <intelikey> heh.   i get 75 78 85
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: i understand what you mean, and for that I use vmware
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: that way i can troubleshoot my parents XP easily when looking at XP in vmware
[11:29] <Frost^> Anyway, I can't believe I wasted so much time about this thing.
[11:29] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: atleast it works now :)
[11:29] <Frost^> And I hope installing fiesty wasn't that much of a mistake.
[11:29] <intelikey> i fixed mothers windows problems.   i installed linux.
[11:29] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: that setting shows my refresh is set to 53, and i know my monitor is running at 60, so it does lie
[11:29] <Frost^> Yeah I guess. I just hope I won't encounter any more issues.
[11:30] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: lol, i'm bringing my kubuntu live cd when i visit next time, i want them on linux
[11:30] <Frost^> Exactly. I wonder if that's a KDE or Kubuntu bug.
[11:30] <Frost^> Anyway, that's something to be fixed.
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> my dad is the quintessential emailing idiot, he opens anything he gets, and thinks Norton will keep him safe
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> if only he was on linux
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> all he does is read news and forward emails all day, no reason to not use linux
[11:33] <intelikey> all the more reason too
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> i just get tired of cleaning out all the viruses and spyware that he thinks Norton and Defender will take care of
[11:35] <c0nv1ct> but hes too old and stubborn to deal with change, and owns too much M$ stock to switch
[11:37] <ubuntu> I'm sooooo dumb, gah had to re-install after I just installed
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> smooth
[11:37] <orange_> ubuntu:  dont be too hard on yourself
[11:37] <ubuntu> they should have my picture under stoopid in the dictionary
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> it happens all the time ubuntu, and its usually the simplest things that get forgotten
[11:38] <intelikey> c0nv1ct you didn't write that script you posted eariler did you?
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> intelikey: no, found it on google
[11:38] <Frost^> Ok, I'm done restarting X for the day.
[11:38] <Frost^> Yay.
[11:38] <orange_> been sitting here for almost 14 hours now... getting linux fully configured... time to sleep before work
[11:38] <orange_> lata
[11:38] <intelikey> heh. good...    we had a pretty good laugh over it.
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> i dont even know if it would work
[11:38] <Frost^> Now I need to understand why KNetworkManager says I'm disconnected.
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> i had network problems with feisty earlier, among other problems
[11:40] <c0nv1ct> i ran the apt-get update, and got debconf errors, then it crashed and wouldnt unlock the dir again
[11:40] <Frost^> I can't stand apt.
[11:40] <ubuntu> I want an open sourced VM ware clone, go make me one.... now
[11:40] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: why?
[11:41] <ubuntu> because i said so
[11:42] <Jucato> ubuntu: http://www.virtualbox.org/ and try researching first
[11:43] <intelikey> Jucato you seem to miss the point.   some people research by reading some by experiment some by asking you....
[11:43] <ubuntu> cool, btw thats not like the first 10 results when you search linux virtual machine
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: but its the 4th when you search for "linux open source virtual machine"
[11:44] <Frost^> Hmm, is there really a free tool which can compete vmware in terms of performance?
[11:44] <Frost^> I'm curious.
[11:44] <Jucato> intelikey: sure. unless you consider "I want an open sourced VM ware clone, go make me one.... now" a question
[11:44] <ubuntu> thanks for the info im out
[11:44] <intelikey> :)
[11:45] <c0nv1ct> Frost^: vmware only costs a keygen download
[11:45] <Frost^> Haha
[11:45] <intelikey> don't be too hard on him.   some people just can't help it.   :)
[11:46] <intelikey> oh it's time ot move data again...   well i'm gone until the transfer is over      see you next month or when ever...
[11:47] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: vmware player and server are legally free (as in beer)
[11:48] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hello
[11:48] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> man... please can someone tell me where i can download base-config?
[11:49] <crazy_bus> krita 1.6.2 crashes when I try to create a new picture with watercolours.  Does anyone else have this problem?
[11:49] <Skuller> hey guys...how do i do a 'tracert' or traceroute in kubun?
[11:49] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> just type trace and press tab
[11:50] <Jucato> Skuller: install traceroute
[11:51] <Skuller> Jucato: how?
[11:51] <Skuller> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: where?
[11:51] <Jucato> Skuller: from apt-get or Adept
[11:51] <Jucato> !info traceroute | Skuller
[11:51] <ubotu> skuller: traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[11:52] <Skuller> oh cool
[11:52] <Skuller> thnx man
[11:53] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Skull console
[11:53] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> apt-get install traceroute if u dont have it
[11:53] <smile> hello world
[11:53] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> sudo apt-get install traceroute
[11:53] <smile> a help plz .. I wanna change my KDM to GDM
[11:54] <Skuller> ok i installed traceroute....now what?
[11:54] <smile> i want start with GDM not KDM .... any help plz ?
[11:54] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> skuller traceroute ip/host
[11:54] <crazy_bus> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[11:54] <Skuller> cool thnx man
[11:55] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hey... someone can tell me a source to download a damn base-config?
[11:55] <smile> i want start with GDM not KDM .... any help plz ? !!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:55] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> i just hate it!!!!
[11:55] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> i cant ever find it
[11:56] <Jucato> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: apt-get source base-config?
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> oh yeah
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> if it was that easy :)
[11:56] <Jucato> it is that easy
[11:56] <crazy_bus> smile: does that link answer your question?
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> maybe with ur source list
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> not with mine
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> ive tried a several source lists, no one find it
[11:57] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> usually the debian sources have it
[11:57] <Jucato> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: enable the deb-src universe repository
[11:57] <premier_> Im trying to configure japanese support on my computer and the keyboard layouts page it empty: there isnt a single keyboard layout
[11:57] <Skuller> umm....i need to traceroute this ip 75.129.107.149...wat exactly do i type in?...sori for being a noob
[11:58] <smile> crazy_bus: thx thxtsooooooooooooo much
[11:58] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> man... lol
[11:58] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Skuller: traceroute ip
[11:58] <smile> crazy_bus: this works fine
[11:58] <crazy_bus> no problem :)
[11:58] <Skuller> traceroute 75.129.107.149?
[11:58] <Jucato> ye
[11:58] <Jucato> yes
[11:58] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Skuller: try tracepath or traceroute6 or tracepath6
[11:59] <Skuller> lol...sorry...cool i finally worked
[11:59] <Skuller> it*
[11:59] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> wich command u used
[12:00] <Skuller> traceroute 75.129.107.149
[12:00] <Skuller> i was stupid to be expectin a gui to come up
[12:06] <dennis_> can anyone tell me how to set an application as default for certain files?
[12:08] <Skuller> dennis_: if i am not wrong.....konquerer-->configure-->file associations
[12:09] <dennis_> @skuller, i'll have a look, thx
[12:12] <Jucato> !away > Skuller
[12:13] <Skuller> Jucato: ??
[12:13] <Jucato> please turn off your public /away message
[12:13] <Skuller> Jucato: how do i do that?
[12:13] <Jucato> what IRC program are you using?
[12:13] <Skuller> konversation
[12:14] <Skuller> !away
[12:14] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[12:14] <bharani> hi
[12:14] <Jucato> Press F2 -> Edit -> Identity Edit -> Away tab
[12:14] <Jucato> Skuller: ^^
[12:14] <Skuller> Jucato: ok i wont set my status to away....
[12:15] <Jucato> Skuller: you can set your status to away. just turn of the public messages
[12:15] <bharani> hey i just installed kubuntu desktop can any one xplain me wats new in this
[12:16] <Skuller> Jucato: ok...its done...thanks for notifying
[12:16] <bharani> can any one?
[12:16] <bharani> plzzz
[12:16] <Jucato> !kubuntu
[12:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:17] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hey
[12:17] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> talking about it
[12:17] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> how do i do to remove the kde
[12:17] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> apt-get remove kde --purge?
[12:17] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> or it has to be done in other way
[12:18] <Jucato> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: as in remove kdeand leave just gnome?
[12:18] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> yes
[12:18] <Jucato> "as in remove kde and leave just gnome?"
[12:18] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:18] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> thanks
[12:19] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> actually im using kubuntu, makes no difference on procedure?
[12:19] <Jucato> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: could you please cut down on the 'eee" in your nick?
[12:19] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> sorry, im not registered, trying to avoid registered nicks, lol
[12:19] <Jucato> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: not really. it does presume that you have gnome installed too
[12:19] <Jucato> O.o
[12:20] <Jucato> !register
[12:20] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:20] <yeahitsme> hehe
[12:20] <Jucato> that's better
[12:23] <fabricio> hello, everyone
[12:24] <fabricio> hello, jack_at_home
[12:25] <jack_at_home> fabricio: hi
[12:25] <fabricio> do you want any type help?
[12:30] <Vincent_k> !feisty
[12:30] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[12:32] <fabricio> ubotu, do you know where i can find the version for free?
[12:38] <knoppix_> hi all
[12:38] <knoppix_> I have a question.
[12:38] <knoppix_> My neighbor, a non-technical user, has a PPPoE Internet connection.
[12:39] <fabricio> ...and?
[12:39] <knoppix_> Unfortunately the connection is sometimes unreliable and goes down.
[12:39] <knoppix_> Is there a network status applet for KDE?
[12:39] <knoppix_> One that would show the status of ppp0 and allow connecting and disconnecting.
[12:40] <knoppix_> Basically a GUI frontend to pon, poff and ifconfig.
[12:40] <knoppix_> In SUSE there is Kinternet.
[12:41] <knoppix_> Using ifconfig, pon and poff in the terminal is too troublesome for this user.
[12:41] <maelcum> Riddell: my nforce2 chipset makes the computer very unresponsive during hard disk i/o, and the "noapic" kernel argument fixes this. is it possible to include such quirks in the distribution?
[12:41] <fabricio> do you have tryied the slackware?
[12:42] <knoppix_> gpppon is a simple frontend to pon and poff, but it does not show the status of the connection.
[12:44] <fabricio> but, if you use two programs, to different things you want?
[12:44] <knoppix_> That would be fine too.
[12:44] <knoppix_> I just need a way to show the status of ppp0 on the panel.
[12:46] <eMaX> anyone knows how to configure name resolution so that "\\bla" shares are also found like through ping?
[12:47] <maelcum> eMaX: if this is at all possible (i doubt it), you must edit /etc/resolv.conf to use the WINS service for name resolution.
[12:48] <xtavaresx> hi. my Toshiba Satellite A100 has no idea that i have an intel 3945 wireless chip in it. Kubuntu 6.10. up to date. any suggestions? i dont want to use ndiswrapper, as i hear kubuntu supports this chiset natively.
[12:49] <Hobbsee> xtavaresx: install linux-restricted-modules
[12:49] <xtavaresx> thank you hobbsee
[12:49] <xtavaresx> i will try now
[12:51] <xtavaresx> Hobbsee, apt couldnt find linux-restricted modules. do i need to add to my sources list?
[12:51] <xtavaresx> *linux-restricted-modules
[12:51] <Hobbsee> xtavaresx: install linux-restricted-modules-generic sorry
[12:51] <xtavaresx> thank you i will try now
[12:52] <Ayabara> should I choose gdm or kdm? does it matter when I'm past the login screen?
[12:52] <xtavaresx> apting now
[12:52] <sneeze> how can i set firefox as default browser?
[12:52] <xtavaresx> sneeze, firefox's preferences
[12:53] <xtavaresx> edit>preferences then main tab then system defaults at the bottom
[12:53] <xtavaresx> what do people think of dolphin replacing konqueror in kde4?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> xtavaresx: it's not, exactly
[12:53] <xtavaresx> i dont know much about dolphin, is it any good?
[12:54] <Hobbsee> well, it's kde4, and that's crashing a lot, so...
[12:54] <Hobbsee> hard to say yet
[12:54] <lotusleaf> xtavaresx, I think #kubuntu-offtopic is better suited for discussion on that topic :)
[12:54] <xtavaresx> does dolphin exist as a project now, or is it kde4 specific?
[12:54] <xtavaresx> really?
[12:55] <xtavaresx> its not off topic is it?
[12:55] <xtavaresx> ok whatever
[12:55] <lotusleaf> well it's non-support ;)
[12:55] <xtavaresx> this channel specific for suport not discussion?
[12:55] <halfbloodprince> does anyone here know of any good feed reader application other than akgregator?
[12:55] <Ayabara> I have installed kubuntu-desktop to try out kde for a while. all looks good, except that the fonts are much larger and bolder than they should be in apps like firefox, xchat and gaim. anyone got an idea what could cause this?
[12:56] <xtavaresx> ok i'll get back on topic. Hobbsee, that package is in now, now what?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> xtavaresx: now reboot
[12:56] <xtavaresx> i have kwifi and wireless lan assistant ans they seem to me to be identical apps
[12:56] <xtavaresx> ok see you soon!!!
[12:56] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: you can change that
[12:57] <larson9999> holy smokes! finally gave beryl a try.  i'm hooked.  i can't believe it.  i thought there was nothing wrong with the desktop as i'd come to know it
[12:57] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, without changing in every app? changing font in control center didn't do much about this
[12:58] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: Firefox, xchat and gaim are native GNOME applications, I'm guessing the problem occurs because of that
[12:59] <lotusleaf> larsivi_, excellent now you can help people in #ubuntu-xgl and #beryl :)
[12:59] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: Change the font for GNOME
[12:59] <halfbloodprince> in 'system settings'
[12:59] <halfbloodprince> the font size
[01:04] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, that did the trick. thanks a lot
[01:05] <Ayabara> now I just gotta restart xchat so it will look better. or does anyone have a good tip for a kde irc app?
[01:05] <lotusleaf> !konversation | Ayabara
[01:05] <ubotu> ayabara: konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[01:06] <Ayabara> lotusleaf, thanks
[01:06] <lotusleaf> Ayabara, yw :) And there are several others
[01:07] <halfbloodprince> Konversation rocks
[01:07] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: I can even help you out with getting your fonts to render like OS X renders them
[01:07] <halfbloodprince> looks slick
[01:08] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, keep talking :-D
[01:09] <meee> hi there
[01:09] <meeeeeeee> how do i install the gnome human theme?
[01:10] <Jucato> gnome themes don't work in KDE
[01:10] <meeeeeeee> it should be the default theme, but id uninstalled kde
[01:11] <meeeeeeee> i now, i just installed gnome, but it has no human theme on it
[01:11] <Tm_T> meeeeeeee: Did you install ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:11] <larson9999> meeeeeeee: i have the same problem.  i just lived with out it
[01:12] <meeeeeeee> :(
[01:12] <meeeeeeee> its my prefered
[01:13] <meeeeeeee> lol... i just uninstalled kde to use the gnome human theme, cant believe it
[01:13] <meeeeeeee> Tm_T: no, didnt know i hve to... im doing it right now
[01:14] <fuel> meeeeeeee: try searching for it through synaptic
[01:14] <meeeeeeee> ive tried :P
[01:15] <meeeeeeee> even my firefox is using this theme, but not my gnome... lol
[01:16] <meeeeeeee> how can i support dual core on linux? is it possible
[01:17] <meeeeeeee> sorry, forget about it, already running it
[01:19] <meeeeeeee> Tm_T:  thanks, the ubuntu-desktop worked :D
[01:20] <voicu> isn't randomize() available any more?
[01:20] <meeeeeeee> larson9999:  hey, if u want to install the human theme: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   - worked for me
[01:20] <voicu> or does it have a different name?
[01:21] <voicu> because random() gives the same results each execution
[01:21] <meeeeeeee> random(random())
[01:21] <meeeeeeee> lol
[01:21] <voicu> random() doesn't have a parameter
[01:22] <voicu> or so gcc says
[01:22] <nysosym> hi there does anyone knows, where i can get the oxygen icons for kde4?
[01:22] <meeeeeeee> joking :D
[01:22] <voicu> yeah...
[01:22] <meeeeeeee> ive tried to use it too
[01:22] <meeeeeeee> it repeats the results everytime u close and reopen it :P
[01:22] <voicu> yes
[01:22] <voicu> that's why i wanted a randomize() functions
[01:22] <voicu> *function
[01:22] <meeeeeeee> i will consult my book
[01:23] <voicu> but i can't find it
[01:24] <meeeeeeee> did u try rand?
[01:24] <meeeeeeee> voicu
[01:24] <voicu> nope
[01:24] <voicu> rand who?
[01:25] <meeeeeeee> rand() % interval (example: 100) goes to 0-100
[01:25] <meeeeeeee> rand() % 100
[01:25] <kaqq> h what is "deb" and how can i install it? i need it to install beryl :p
[01:26] <meeeeeeee> u can use RAND_MAX to set the max number
[01:26] <ace> !mail
[01:26] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <meeeeeeee> no, sorry, forget the last phrase
[01:26] <voicu> meeeeeeeee: i did random() % max
[01:27] <meeeeeeee> try rand()
[01:27] <voicu> it's the same thing
[01:27] <meeeeeeee> are you sure?
[01:27] <voicu> i tried it just now
[01:27] <voicu> rand=random
[01:28] <meeeeeeee> yes, i know
[01:28] <meeeeeeee> :O
[01:28] <voicu> it's just there for older systems, i guess
[01:28] <meeeeeeee> rand is an abreviation
[01:28] <meeeeeeee> try srand
[01:28] <voicu> srand-seed random?
[01:29] <meeeeeeee> srand(time(0))
[01:29] <meeeeeeee> something like it
[01:30] <meeeeeeee> use and unsigned seed
[01:30] <meeeeeeee> sorry *an
[01:30] <voicu> time(0) gives the present moment?
[01:30] <voicu> hmm, works
[01:30] <voicu> thnaks
[01:30] <meeeeeeee> np
[01:32] <ciberparque_> anyone know how to open a folder of photos?
[01:32] <meeeeeeee> double-click?
[01:32] <phisco> ?
[01:32] <meeeeeeee> lol, kidding
[01:33] <ciberparque_> no. i can't whit a double-click, cause de kubuntu want i choose a program to open the folder
[01:34] <ciberparque_> but, when i open the folder, for example, whit gimp, catn expose the photos
[01:34] <ciberparque_> cause the programs like gimp open just photos, and don't folder
[01:35] <voicu> so you want to open an entire folder into gimp?
[01:35] <phisco> you can open a folder with konqueror, but konqueror ist normaly installed on kubuntu
[01:36] <meeeeeeee> try the broswer
[01:36] <meeeeeeee> konqueror is installed
[01:36] <ciberparque_> yes, i will try open the folder whit the konkeror
[01:36] <phisco> when you want to watch the folder with trumbs of the pictures, you can use gwenview
[01:37] <voicu> damn, don't try krita *.jpg <-- really bad
[01:37] <meeeeeeee> lol
[01:37] <meeeeeeee> obviously
[01:37] <ciberparque_> i can't find neither the konkeror, neither the gwenview
[01:38] <ciberparque_> oh, i'm sorrowing!
[01:38] <ciberparque_> goooooooooooooooooood
[01:38] <fuel> ciberparque_: you mean konqueror ?
[01:38] <phisco> try "alt"+"space" and type "konqueror"
[01:38] <fuel> or alt+f2 -> konqueror
[01:39] <phisco> yes thats a better idea :)
[01:42] <Ayabara> I have a dual screen setup on my laptop. when I maximize windows on the secondary display they get maxmized behind my bottom panel. this does not happen on the primary display. any ideas?
[01:43] <knoppix_> I found a tool that does exactly what I needed: RPPPPoEK (Roaring Penguin PPPoE Kontrol).
[01:44] <knoppix_> http://segfaultskde.berlios.de/index.php?content=rppppoek
[01:44] <knoppix_> It was easy to install from the source code.
[01:44] <yaccin> !mythtv
[01:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[01:44] <knoppix_> Hopefully it gets packaged into Kubuntu.
[01:48] <meeeeeeee> ciberparque_:  doesnt the digikam do this?
[01:51] <meeeeeeee> yaccin: can i watch catv on mythtv
[01:54] <meeeeeeee> is there any software that streams broadcast tv for linux?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> from what?the internet?
[01:54] <meeeeeeee> yeap
[01:55] <meeeeeeee> just like Sattelite TV on PC or something
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> I don't know
[01:55] <meeeeeeee> thanks :)
[01:55] <meeeeeeee> wwwitv.com
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> your welcome...;)
[01:56] <meeeeeeee> ops
[01:56] <meeeeeeee> wwitv.com i mean
[01:56] <meeeeeeee> do u know it? :)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> no
[01:57] <meeeeeeee> its nice, take a try :) not much channels, but it may be worth
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:58] <meeeeeeee> damn, i cant watch it because my soundcard isnt recognized on linux
[01:58] <meeeeeeee> :(
[01:59] <meeeeeeee> i just hate the linux incompatibility
[02:00] <meeeeeeee> is there any command to see the kernel version?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> uname -r
[02:01] <meeeeeeee> oh yes, i knew it! thanks.
[02:01] <meeeeeeee> just couldnt remember :/
[02:04] <ciberparque_> hello, anyone knows how i can start and stop a slide presentation in the gwenview?
[02:05] <ciberparque_> i think the "esc" button can stop the presentation, but certainly have another way
[02:17] <PhinnFort> ciberparque_: space?
[02:17] <PhinnFort> and you can probably set the shortcuts yourself
[02:18] <_eMaX_> hmm. kpowermanager says "switching to AC mode". Did anyone ever realize that a laptop is powered by "DC"...:)
[02:20] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: it's AC until the adapter
[02:20] <PhinnFort> and to distinguish between the DC power from the battery, and the AC power in your outlet, it's easier this way
[02:29] <livingdaylight> guys, i'm in the kubuntu live cd
[02:30] <livingdaylight> Q: how do i get root priviliedge in terminal?
[02:30] <meeeeeeee> sudo
[02:30] <stuffcorpse> doesn't sudo work?
[02:30] <meeeeeeee> sudo command
[02:31] <livingdaylight> and what do i give for password?
[02:31] <meeeeeeee> i guess u dont need to
[02:31] <meeeeeeee> cant remember
[02:32] <meeeeeeee> or try sudo passwd root
[02:32] <meeeeeeee> i dont know if it works on livecd
[02:32] <animimotus> hi
[02:33] <meeeeeeee> hello
[02:33] <animimotus> sorry I have a little bash error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9425/
[02:33] <livingdaylight> sudo -i alone gives #prompts thx guys
[02:34] <Jucato> livingdaylight: in the live cd, there is not user password, therefore, no sudo password
[02:35] <animimotus> the first time the files moved but the second time I execute the script again and do an error: "mv: can't evaluate `/home/animimotus/temp/foo/*': No file or directory"
[02:36] <animimotus> * error message retranslated in english :p
[02:37] <meeeeeeee> u are comparing dir1 with dir1 to see if dir2 is empty?
[02:38] <meeeeeeee> amd i dumb or what? lol
[02:38] <meeeeeeee> i couldnt understand that
[02:38] <meeeeeeee> oh no, sorry, my mystake
[02:38] <meeeeeeee> mistake
[02:38] <ciberparque_> mystake! wahahaha
[02:39] <ciberparque_> very funny!
[02:39] <animimotus> ciberparque_: like cyberparque ? :)
[02:40] <meeeeeeee> english isnt my language :D
[02:41] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: I understand. It's not mine too
[02:41] <animimotus> it doesn't matter
[02:41] <ciberparque_> english isn't too my language
[02:41] <ciberparque_> oh, god!
[02:41] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: cant u compare it to NULL?
[02:41] <animimotus> ciberparque_: sorry, could we return to the little bash problem?
[02:41] <ciberparque_> nobody here really speaks english!
[02:41] <meeeeeeee> so?
[02:42] <eilker> so so :D
[02:42] <animimotus> ciberparque_: english is a fork from barbarian languages :p
[02:42] <meeeeeeee> at least i noticed my mistake :D
[02:43] <meeeeeeee> unlike you, sorry
[02:43] <meeeeeeee> hehe
[02:43] <maelcum> for your amusement - i have seen a screenshot of a german version of an application where "left" was translated twice. in the end, it said "verweise", meaning "links". well, "links" means "left" in german xD
[02:43] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: did u try to compare the dir to NULL?
[02:45] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact I would to test the directory befor trying to move the file cause I recieve always a mail advice ^^
[02:45] <animimotus> for the error
[02:45] <meeeeeeee> i think u must use else if
[02:45] <meeeeeeee> after closing the if
[02:46] <meeeeeeee> in the case of the folder isnt empty
[02:46] <animimotus> I try
[02:48] <meeeeeeee> else if folder !='NULL'
[02:48] <meeeeeeee> bla bla bla, something like that
[02:48] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: did u try that yet?
[02:48] <animimotus> it return an another error
[02:50] <dhq> can anyone help me my mouse pad of my laptop is not working properly i think its ths the driver promblem
[02:50] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: : wich one
[02:54] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9427/
[02:57] <eilker> system has freezing problem, i think it is cause of mouse, how can i check or solve this ?
[02:58] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: its wrong, i will try to help you, just a minute
[03:00] <ciberparque_> i suggest you find a way of reduce the occuped memory of your laptop
[03:02] <maelcum> eilker: what is your chipset?
[03:03] <maelcum> eilker: mainboard chipset, like "intel i815" or "nvidia nforce3".
[03:03] <eilker> maelcum: intel 8245,
[03:04] <eilker> maelcum: sorry, intel 82865,
[03:04] <maelcum> eilker: oh, you need to ask somebody else then :|
[03:04] <maelcum> eilker: some chipsets for amd cpus have freezing problems
[03:05] <eilker> maelcum: i had no problem, this problem occures new, i use kubuntu since 6 months
[03:06] <moneman> ;;;;;
[03:07] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: hey...
[03:07] <animimotus> yes?
[03:10] <meeeeeeee> try this
[03:12] <meeeeeeee> animimotus:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9431/
[03:15] <eean> just upgraded, there isn't an ipw3945 driver installed for Fiesty. any ideas/
[03:17] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: I have correct the little syntaxe error but the script return always an error
[03:19] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: sorry, ive paste a wrong code, see this one now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9432/
[03:20] <AMSmith42> Are the repositories normally marked "main restricted"?
[03:20] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: the same error
[03:21] <meeeeeeee> damn... what it says? (in english please)
[03:21] <Jucato> !repositories | AMSmith42
[03:21] <ubotu> AMSmith42: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:21] <animimotus> "mv: can't evaluate `/home/animimotus/temp/foo/*': No file or directory"
[03:22] <meeeeeeee> did u tried *.* instead of *?
[03:22] <AMSmith42> I understand "main", what I don't understand is "restricted".
[03:23] <AMSmith42> But I guess that's normal.
[03:23] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: do you think it's the problem?
[03:23] <Jucato> AMSmith42: that page has a link that explains the 4 components/sections of a repository
[03:24] <Jucato> namely, main, restricted, universe, and multiverse
[03:24] <animimotus> it's only a wilcard
[03:24] <AMSmith42> Yes, thank you.
[03:24] <meeeeeeee> yes, its a simple code, and its complaining about the dir...
[03:24] <meeeeeeee> its the only thing i can imagine :/
[03:24] <Jucato> AMSmith42: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:25] <waylandbill> meeeeeeee: you don't need *.*, the * takes care of that.
[03:25] <animimotus> "mv: can't evaluate `/home/animimotus/temp/foo/*.*': No file or directory"
[03:26] <eilker> jucato: hi, see this pls, kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 ,this may conflict ? i cant get login screen,(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available.Fatal server error:no screens found //but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment.
[03:26] <AMSmith42> Jucato: Thank you. I'm just trying to figure out why I'm getting a 403 Forbidden when I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[03:26] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: mv $dir1 $dir2; instead of mv $dir1/* $dir2;\
[03:26] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: mv $dir1 $dir2; instead of mv $dir1/* $dir2;
[03:26] <Jucato> eilker: sorry, I don't know much about intel video cards.. have you tried #beryl or #ubuntu-effects?
[03:27] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: I want to move the content of dir1, not the entiry directory
[03:28] <animimotus> * entire
[03:28] <eilker> jucato: it is not cause of beryl, when i close beryl , i still  have it, btw, i have this problem in xp too, so is it hardware problem ? it was working normal since 6 months
[03:28] <waylandbill> mv -R dir1/* dir2/
[03:28] <meeeeeeee> animimotus:  okay, try cd $dir1 and then mv * $dir2
[03:29] <Jucato> eilker: I think it's more of about the intel driver version installed from beryl
[03:29] <Jucato> nothing's wrong w/ your hardware
 i got it, what about 7.04 ? do u suggest me to upgrade ? or i should wait some time ?
[03:30] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9436/
[03:30] <Jucato> I really don't know sorry
[03:30] <eilker> thanx
[03:31] <eilker>  i have three kernels (after upgrades), do i have chance to uninstall 2 of 3 ? i wanna keep only the newest one
[03:32] <animimotus> "mv: can't evaluate `*': No file or directory"
[03:32] <Jucato> eilker: you remove kernels like any other package. use apt-get or Adept. however, you probably want to leave at least one other working kernel as backup, just in case
[03:33] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: did u used the cd dir and then mv?
[03:33] <animimotus> yes
[03:33] <animimotus>   echo "move somethings to bar"; cd $dir1 ; mv * $dir2;
[03:33] <eilker> Jucato>: what about grub menu ?
[03:34] <Jucato> eilker: it will be updated automatically
[03:34] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: isnt it empty?
[03:34] <eilker> Jucato>i see thanx
[03:35] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: I try the two cases
[03:36] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact I ask myselft if for a bash script ~/ is the same that /home/theuser/
[03:37] <AMSmith42> Can an incorrect time affect apt-get?
[03:38] <eilker> jucato: i am removing linux-image-2.6.15 , linux headers 2-.6.15 , is it ok ?
[03:38] <Jucato> probably
[03:39] <eilker> ok
[03:41] <wulfmahn> I switched to kpowersave for battery management. Guidance-power-manager keeps starting when I reboot though. Anyway I can stop it from starting? Or remove it?
[03:43] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: you can use $HOME/foo per example
[03:44] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: true
[03:45] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: just a advice, all my dir had move to an another folder, the mv * is not a good idea if the variable is wrong ^^
[03:45] <animimotus> * I have lost anything, sure
[03:46] <animimotus> all my home I would say
[03:46] <Malph> animimotus: so why don't you just mv it back
[03:46] <waylandbill> cp and rm in two steps is safer.
[03:47] <animimotus> sure I have made that
[03:47] <waylandbill> assuming enough space to do so
[03:47] <animimotus> waylandbill: rm is dangerous too
[03:48] <waylandbill> everything involves risk of course.
[03:49] <animimotus> the good idea to debugging a script is perhaps to add a variable test ^^
[03:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:50] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: u probably moved ur dir to another dir only
[03:51] <animimotus> yes, the entire home to... wine-0.9.30         oO :p
[03:51] <meeeeeeee> lol
[03:52] <dystopianray> how can I get a list of every package I have installed, except the ones that came automatically with kubuntu?
[03:52] <meeeeeeee> dpkg -l
[03:52] <meeeeeeee> oh, dunno
[03:52] <dystopianray> the automatically installed ones are supposed to be marked as 'auto' or something, right?
[03:54] <waylandbill> dystopianray: /var/log/dpkg.log may help
[03:55] <pr0phet> erm, can anyone tell me how to fix clamav..on startup and when i try to update it says "Update Process Failed! Did You Kill It Manually?"
[03:55] <eze> #ubuntu-es
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Morning
[03:57] <pr0phet> morning
[03:57] <tdn> How do I disable the pcspeaker completely? I have tried sudo modprobe -r pcspkr, but it does not help. I am using headphones and it is really loud when the pc speaker beeps in them. I get a shock each time.
[03:57] <amay> hallo
[03:57] <amay> ..........
[03:58] <dystopianray> tdn: the pc speaker doesn't beep into headphones, it's a physical speaker inside your computer
[03:59] <tdn> dystopianray, yeah. Normally. But not here. It is a laptop.
[03:59] <dystopianray> tdn: are you sure it's not just a standard kde sound notification?
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> tdn: yeah, same with mine, you should be able to open the mixer and turn the volume down on the pcspeaker
[03:59] <waylandbill> tdn: what's making the pc speaker go off? it could be a notification
[04:00] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: man, that message is normal... it only happens when the dir is empty, right?
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> tdn: it depends, kde will use a pcm wav sound for notifications unless it's been configured to beep the speaker instead.
[04:01] <tdn> LeeJunFan, it has been configured to use the pc speaker in stead.
[04:01] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: the system will show that error any time you try to mv something taht doesnt exists
[04:01] <tdn> dystopianray, yes. I am pretty sure.
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> tdn: then turning down the speaker in the mixer should do it. That's what I had to do as well.
[04:01] <tdn> LeeJunFan, I can not turn the mixer volume down. I would like to be able to hear music.
[04:01] <meeeeeeee> ani: if the rest of the code is running okay, u shouldnt bother about that message
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> tdn: pcspeaker and pcm should be separate mixers
[04:01] <meeeeeeee> animimotus:  if the rest of the code is running okay, u shouldnt bother about that message
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> music would play pcm, while system beeps and such would be the pc speaker.
[04:02] <tdn> LeeJunFan, not on a laptop.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> A big round of applause for anyone who can point out why my soundcard doesn't work in achroot environment
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> tdn: it is on mine.
[04:02] <AMSmith42> What is the command to find the local IP address?
[04:02] <tdn> LeeJunFan, I think?!
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> tdn: depends on the soundcard maybe then.
[04:02] <Timsen> AMSmith42, ifconfig -a
[04:03] <tdn> LeeJunFan, in KMix there is no mixer named pc speaker or similar.
[04:03] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[04:03] <nuxil> is ther any panel "docker" simelar to kxdocker ?
[04:03] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact like a said, I would test if the directory is empty. And if it is, then the script should not try to move the file cause they are absent for this moment :) (it for a cron tab)
[04:03] <nuxil> the pkg seems to be broken for edgy amd64
[04:04] <LeeJunFan> tdn: hrm, in mine I do. I wonder if you need to modprobe pcspkr back in to get the mixer?
[04:04] <tdn> LeeJunFan, maybe.
[04:05] <tdn> LeeJunFan, no. That did not work.
[04:06] <dystopianray> why does 'administrator mode...' in the kde system settings fail most of the time?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> can sudo run through pam?
[04:06] <waylandbill> tdn, did you restart kmix after modprobing back in?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Hail!
[04:07] <tdn> waylandbill, no.
[04:07] <tdn> waylandbill, yes. Now I did. No difference.
[04:07] <corey> Good Morning everyone
[04:07] <ciberparque_> morning!
[04:07] <waylandbill> might just be the sound card doesn't have a pc speaker mixer line
[04:10] <trapcodien> hello all
[04:10] <trapcodien> est ce qu'il y a des francais ici ?
[04:11] <Jucato> !fr | trapcodien
[04:11] <ubotu> trapcodien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:11] <trapcodien> merci
[04:12] <dystopianray> ah, I see why it's not working, kdesu doesn't work if your sudo access hasn't expired from using sudo elsewhere
[04:14] <waylandbill> dystopianray: really? just did a sudo command and then kdesu kate and it worked as I expected.
[04:15] <dystopianray> waylandbill: well i don't knwo about kdesu in general, but 'administrator mode' system settings wouldn't work without manually expiring my sudo access
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> dystopianray: that was an old bug, but should have been fixed since dapper.
[04:15] <dystopianray> I'm using edgy
[04:15] <dystopianray> and I'm pretty sure I noticed it on fiesty herd5 too
[04:15] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: please, post another time and pass me the link, i will answer with another code... :)
[04:16] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: if this one cant help you, then i quit... :P
[04:16] <meeeeeeee> animimotus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9444/ see if this one helps you
[04:17] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact I try to adapt this page http://www.developpez.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-182414.html
[04:17] <dystopianray> what does apt-index-watcher do? does it automate apt-get update ?
[04:18] <flake> with wolf et, I can run et and hear the sound but there is also an annoying background buzz - but I don't hear it under kde multimedia - is there a fix for that?
[04:19] <ackbahr> Do you know if there is a tool that displays the strength of WIFI signals around, but realtime?
[04:20] <angasule> !games
[04:20] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:20] <flake> when I move a window around on the desktop I hear a bunch of clicks, think it's kde by default but the buzzing sounds like that
[04:21] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[04:21] <nuxil>  going crazy.. this is like the 5th time in 1/2 H i press shit + backspace
[04:21] <nuxil> friking anoying
[04:21] <nuxil> how do i get rid of that crap?
[04:21] <dystopianray> nuxil: you need to change your keymap
[04:22] <nuxil> i tryed putting
[04:22] <Morbo> Interesting
[04:22] <Morbo> I've never seen a keyboard with a "shit" key ;)
[04:22] <nuxil> xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace
[04:22] <nuxil> Morbo, i just renamed it
[04:22] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't
[04:22] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: I have add a ls before the mv
[04:22] <animimotus> and comment the rest
[04:22] <animimotus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9445/
[04:23] <angasule> Morbo: it's only available if you have a proper chair :P
[04:23] <Morbo> That makes sense
[04:23] <nuxil> dystopianray, how do i change the keymap ?
[04:23] <animimotus> the first time the files have been moved, the second time, the condition is always true : move somethings to bar
[04:23] <ackbahr> Morbo: I have a "shit" key, it's between Ctrl and Alt on the left side, it looks like a flag with a cross.... :)
[04:24] <Morbo> :D
[04:24] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: but the dir is empty now
[04:24] <animimotus> :)
[04:24] <angasule> hahaha
[04:24] <dystopianray> nuxil: you can change it in the keyboard settings of kcontrol
[04:24] <Morbo> If I had any artistic skills, I'd pant a penguin over it
[04:26] <wdg> \join ubuntu-cn
[04:26] <nuxil> hmm
[04:27] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact the dir could not be empty, it exist a .directory :)
[04:27] <miltos> any help?
[04:27] <flake> when I drag the desktop window around, Ihear a bunch of clicks with every mouse movement - how can I turn that off?
[04:27] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[04:27] <nuxil> dystopianray, i dont think kcontrol fixes it,, its X related not DE RELATED
[04:27] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: the cached file don't moved, sure (an it's what I want)
[04:28] <dystopianray> nuxil: kde can change your keymap
[04:28] <meeeeeeee> animimotus:  it worked?
[04:28] <animimotus> * hidden file
[04:28] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: no
[04:28] <flake> is that on by default?  the speakers are usb powered and I'm hoping the usb mouse isn't somehow interferening with the speakers
[04:28] <nuxil> dystopianray, where ? im in keyboard shortcuts
[04:28] <animimotus> meeeeeeee: in fact the dir could not be empty, it exist a .directory :)
[04:28] <nuxil> cant see any thing there
[04:28] <dystopianray> nuxil: no, your keyboard layout
[04:29] <meeeeeeee> so you have to add a line to see if itsnt a dir then if *.* != -d i think
[04:30] <nuxil> pff,,
[04:31] <maelcum> flake: this is a common hardware problem, especially with but not limited to notebooks.
[04:37] <akrus> does someone have Kopete compiled from SVN?
[04:38] <atidem> hello!
[04:39] <ForgeAus> Jucato you there?
[04:39] <Jucato> yes
[04:39] <ForgeAus> how dangerous is it to get pkgsrc for Kubuntu?
[04:39] <ForgeAus> BSD-enhance my Kubuntu!
[04:39] <Jucato> ??
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Whats new in Kopete in SVn?
[04:40] <ForgeAus> theres tgz packages that are for BSD...
[04:40] <ForgeAus> you can get it for debian and install packages (rather than ports) from NetBSD
[04:40] <ForgeAus> (Interix uses them)
[04:40] <Jucato> sorry, no idea
[04:41] <Jucato> but it's definltey not a good idea to "mix and match" packages
[04:41] <ForgeAus> theres no Aros.deb for kubuntu
[04:41] <flake> maelcum - this is a mid-tower case, should I get a non-usb powered external speakers?
[04:41] <ForgeAus> (I don't think its a package either actually... I think that one is a port - .pbi)
[04:41] <gwidion> Hi there.
[04:41] <gwidion> I  am not on kubuntu right now -
[04:42] <gwidion> but soem firends of mine, totally new to linux,
[04:42] <gwidion> aretrying to getti firefox running in a  default kubuntu install.
[04:42] <compilerwriter> Lynoure you at your keyboard
[04:42] <gwidion> What should they do overthere?
[04:42] <chopin> how do i repackage an rpm for installing in ubuntu?
[04:43] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's not recommend to install packages built specifically for one distro to another. how much more installing packages from a completely different OS?
[04:43] <Jucato> !rpm | chopin
[04:43] <ubotu> chopin: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:43] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[04:44] <chopin> ah, thx Jucato
[04:44] <maelcum> flake: i don't know... it could be "dirty" usb power (i.e. drawing windows causes ripples in power demand of the graphics hardware) and in that case, externally powered speakers would help, of course.
[04:45] <flake> guess i get what I pay for, $10 at wally world
[04:45] <jhutchins> gwidion: I thought firefox was installed by default.  apt-get install mozilla-firefox.  Do NOT use the Mozilla installers.
[04:46] <gwidion> so, what is the shortest path, forma  clean install, to get firefox running? (or maybe it is even isntalled, and they are not finding it?)
[04:46] <jhutchins> flake: You can install the lmsensors package and monitor your power levels.
[04:46] <yaccin> !lirc
[04:46] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[04:46] <flake> ok
[04:46] <yaccin> -_-
[04:46] <timster> How can I monitor my fan speed and temperatures?
[04:46] <timster> !fanspeed
[04:46] <maelcum> flake: as gpu and usb power ultimately come from your psu, spikes in power demand can cause (small) voltage ripple everywhere.
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fanspeed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <ForgeAus> BSD isn't so different its entirely POSIX compatible right?
[04:47] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: Dunno, try #bsd
[04:47] <gwidion> jhutchins: thanks. I also thought t came installed.
[04:48] <jhutchins> As I recall there are at least three different falvors.
[04:48] <ForgeAus> although I guess Linux isn't entirely that
[04:48] <jhutchins> flavors even.
[04:48] <flake> I am running a nvidia GT6800  on a 350W psu
[04:48] <flake> barely enough for new windoze games but overkill for linux :)
[04:48] <timster> How can I monitor my fan speed and temperatures?
[04:49] <timster> FF doesnt come isntalled on 6.06 btw
[04:49] <ForgeAus> anyway why would they have a pkg srouce for debian if it wasn't compatible? (which I assume means Kubuntu compatible)
[04:49] <gwidion> jhutchins: Eeek... " package not available"  . I am tellign then to edit the sources.list file, but wihtout knowing what is in there, I can't tell then the right lines to uncomment.
[04:49] <maelcum> flake: watts don't matter. there are good and bad psus with any wattage :). no really, just try other speakers from a friend / relative / whatever.
[04:49] <flake> ok, thanks
[04:52] <jhutchins> !find firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca (and 57 others)
[04:52] <bewl> !mpeg
[04:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <eilker> i install superkaramba themes, it goes to /tmp/kde , so when i reboot , will i lose those themes ?
[04:52] <jhutchins> !firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:53] <DaSkreech> hi manchicken
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !windows rocking!
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !windows rocking
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows rocking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:54] <julle> !mount iso
[04:54] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[04:54] <manchicken> Howdy.
[04:54] <julle> !mount
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <julle> !iso
[04:54] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Oy! You've killed me!. Chicken!!!
[04:56] <bewl> I cant seem to get movies to play for the life of me
[04:56] <bewl> ive installed the codecs
[04:56] <bewl> w32, restricted, and free
[04:57] <DaSkreech> bewl: What movie?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Riddell: http://jeremie.famille-corbier.net/blog/post:21
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: i wanna check out ICQ Xstatus
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: Changelog reports it's implemented now
[04:58] <DaSkreech> akrus: ah Right. I forgot about that
[04:58] <manuel_> Hola, soy nuevo y solo queria dar un saludo
[04:58] <DaSkreech> akrus: Whats that do? :)
[04:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: bad move :P
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: it's Extra Status
[04:58] <DaSkreech> !es | manuel_
[04:58] <ubotu> manuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:58] <akrus> like sleeping/eating/love etc.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: eh?
[04:58] <manuel_> gracias
[04:59] <Riddell> DaSkreech: I know
[04:59] <akrus> atm only ICQ/QIP/Miranda support this
[04:59] <akrus> if it's really implemented then i can really say Kopete is the best messenger :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> akrus: Why is it that important? :)
[05:00] <akrus> DaSkreech: it's very useful actually :(
[05:00] <waylandbill> ok. I got a few packages that I need to keep at a specific version for a while. How can I force an apt-get upgrade to not touch them?
[05:00] <akrus> SIM/Gaim/Kopete do not support this :(
[05:00] <DaSkreech> akrus: I'm not saying it's not It's been a while since I used ICQ pure. how do you use it?
[05:00] <akrus> well
[05:01] <akrus> for example
[05:01] <akrus> i'm online
[05:01] <akrus> and I'm sitting hear, surfing through the net
[05:01] <gwidion> is the nick completion bug on kopete-irc fixed?
[05:01] <akrus> I'm setting xstatus to: 'Surfing the net'
[05:01] <akrus> and everyone sees me online with this status & message
[05:01] <DaSkreech> What if you are webcamming
[05:01] <DaSkreech> can you set it to webcamming?
[05:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:01] <akrus> there're also 'angry', 'tired' etc.
[05:01] <akrus> I don't have a webcam :P
[05:02] <akrus> well
[05:02] <waylandbill> pronning too. :-P
[05:02] <akrus> you may type in any text
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Ha ha  Fine how about In IRC?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Ah ok cool
[05:02] <waylandbill> unless that is "surfing the net" ;)
[05:02] <akrus> and there're several default icons
[05:02] <akrus> love is my favie :D
[05:02] <DaSkreech> akrus: So you want to install from source?
[05:02] <akrus> waylandbill: that was just an example :)
[05:02] <akrus> DaSkreech: already compiling :)
[05:03] <akrus> removed the .deb and compiling :3
[05:03] <akrus> according to changelog this change is submitted 2007-01-06
[05:03] <akrus> but KDE 3.5.6 was released after this date
[05:03] <akrus> so wanna try~
[05:03] <akrus> oh and i'm very missing ICQ file transfers
[05:04] <akrus> as well as the file transfer interface
[05:04] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am trying to set-up Kubuntu 6.10 (got an ISO and burnt it today)
[05:04] <akrus> rysiek|pl: and? :)
[05:04] <rysiek|pl> akrus: workin' on it ;)
[05:05] <rysiek|pl> I keep getting this error in the installer: when I am selecting the mountpoints, I change a wee bit the defaults (select a different ext3 partition for /), click "Next" and get "Select a root filesystem" error
[05:06] <dhq> can anyone help me my mouse pad of my laptop is not working properly i think its ths the driver promblem
[05:06] <waylandbill> dhq: do you have the synaptic driver in your xorg.conf?
[05:06] <DrCurl> hi
[05:07] <DrCurl> is this the right place to ask about kubuntu feisty?
[05:07] <dhq> waylandbill: but the mouse moves very slow and i cant click
[05:07] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: try #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <akrus> DrCurl: but you may try here
[05:07] <waylandbill> dhq. there is a place in kcontrol to change the settings
[05:07] <akrus> #ubuntu+1 is always so quiet :D
[05:08] <rysiek|pl> akrus: this is called "revered silence" ;)
[05:08] <dhq> waylandbill: ok and
[05:08] <akrus> :)
[05:08] <dhq> waylandbill: the touchpad is veryslow i cant move it fast at all
[05:09] <DrCurl> I would like to know if accelerated desktop will be on click (desktop effects) away under kubuntu like it will be for ubuntu in feisty?
[05:09] <akrus> o_O
[05:09] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: yes
[05:10] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: it *is* the same system, after all
[05:10] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: Not a sufficent answer for this question
[05:10] <DrCurl> yes! very nice!
[05:10] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: and the real problem with accellerated desktop are the drivers
[05:10] <waylandbill> dhq: so up the acceleration in kcontrol
[05:10] <DaSkreech> It is the DE that is the difference here :)
[05:10] <DrCurl> rysiek, I have a supported chipset
[05:11] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: in the context of beryl - well, yes, it *is* a sufficent answer :)
[05:11] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: in that case I am sure it will work
[05:11] <DrCurl> what about compiz?
[05:11] <dhq> waylandbill: where is the acceleration
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: beryl/compiz - whatever. the point is: the acceleration will be there
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hello room
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: so you will be able to use its goodies ;)
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> hello, Admiral_Chicago
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Wee.. the "freespire' spinoff of ubuntu is now out.. in beta testing.. scary
[05:13] <waylandbill> dhq: it's called sensitivity under touch pad. sorry
[05:13] <Dr_willis> wonder if the freespire/linspire dudes will contribute to the ubuntu/kubuntu cause.
[05:13] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: what's so scary about it?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  the company for the most part.. and the fact (not sure if its stull true) that every user had 100% root privilages from the start...
[05:13] <Dr_willis> getting ready to test it in vmware.
[05:13] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont have touchpad
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[05:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:14] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont have touchpad in kcontrol
[05:14] <Dr_willis> click-and-run store - is a neat idea.. but well.. lets say.. 'lacking'
[05:14] <brosioz> how could i play directly a file and not append it on my playlist with doubleclick with amarok?
[05:14] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: damn, why vmware? use qemu, luke! :] 
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Im bettting we will start seeing more freespire users in here now.
[05:14] <waylandbill> dhq: then you need to install the synaptics program for kde.
[05:14] <dhq> waylandbill: how
[05:14] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  how about 'VirtualBox'
[05:15] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: dunno, never used it... Is it FLOSS? :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  not totally sure. :) its free to use for personal use.
[05:15] <Jucato> there's a GPL version of VirtualBox
[05:15] <Dr_willis> guess it is. :) heh
[05:15] <Jucato> but the GPL version is not as full featured, I think
[05:15] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Xes is what i would use, because its free
[05:16] <Dr_willis> these multi-licensing things get me confused after a bit.
[05:16] <waylandbill> dhq: apt-get install ksynaptics
[05:16] <DaSkreech> can I edit a torrent once in Ktorrent?
[05:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: how easy is it to setup? :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  edit in what way?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I want to point it to a new folder
[05:17] <timster> !deKorator
[05:17] <ubotu> dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB
[05:17] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  stop the torrent, change the download dir.. (move the data over perhaps)
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: nothing advanced.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> then restart the torrent.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> stop/remove the torrent i guess is what i mean.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: So remove the torrent then restart it?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  thats how ive done it befor.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> you just want to move it all to a different dir eh?
[05:17] <Jucato> DaSkreech: File -> Import existing download
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i got a whole HD just for 'torrents' :) /media/torrents
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Don't got that on mine
[05:18] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Plugins: partfileimportplugin
[05:19] <coreymon77> wow
[05:19] <coreymon77> that had to be the easiest linux reinstall i have even done in my life
[05:19] <Dr_willis> ktorrents plugin feature is nice.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> except now i loaded a plugin and it locked up ktorrent...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> heh .
[05:20] <Jucato> :P
[05:20] <DaSkreech> So I have to find the torrent again?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> *sighs*
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the .torrent fle you mean?
[05:21] <Jucato> the .torrent file? definitely yes
[05:21] <Dr_willis> ipfilter plugin seems to hang ktorrent.. or else its taking a LONG LONG time..
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> one thing I hate about this channel, i do a lot of /clears
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> sorry
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm done
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> :)
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know how I can set Irssi to not show joins / parts.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  use the ' /ignore ' command
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> i forgot to quit Konversation at home
[05:23] <Dr_willis> - /ignore PARTS #channel (or somthing like that)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> i amways get it backwards
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: thanks
[05:24] <ubuntu> umm.... someone told me about nano.. and now I think vim can go to hell
[05:24] <Dr_willis> the irssi site has some must read guides/docs. :) iu always have to go back there when ever i start using irssi again
[05:24] <Hasrat_In_Office> ktorrent works like a charm
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  yea.. sure.... your lack of experience is showing. :)
[05:25] <Hasrat_In_Office> hey ububntu what's up
[05:25] <ubuntu> yea well I did take a class on linux
[05:25] <ubuntu> the whole final was on vim
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  neither have i
[05:25] <waylandbill> ubuntu: vim is useful in a terminal where cursor keys are not functioning as expected.
[05:26] <eilker> i am looking for fantastic superkaramba themes, but  i cant find, those are normal in kde look, any other source ?
[05:26] <ubuntu> ive had keys foobar in vim
[05:26] <ubuntu> so dont give me that
[05:27] <waylandbill> h,j,k & l were foobar? hmm. I doubt that.
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: /ignore #kubuntu parts . also, irssi docs are way hard to read imho
[05:28] <ForgeAus> hehe
[05:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> what does /ignore #kubuntu parts do?
[05:28] <ubuntu> is it just me or all the die hard Vim users... old and stuborn?
[05:29] <ForgeAus> ignors a uyser parts on channel #Kubuntu?
[05:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> you mean whoever leaves the channel would get ignored?
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: konversation is too much clicking...plus GUIs can't do screenn
[05:29] <ForgeAus> in mIRC at least theres an -r switch to unignore
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_In_Office: so I don't see who has joined or quit
[05:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh duh
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> it shows up as a line right, i don't want to see it :)
[05:29] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I rarely click in konvi... but true about the screen thing... but I don't use it anyway :)
[05:30] <ForgeAus> Konversation probably has an /unignore or ignore -r also (or something similar)
[05:30] <Gh0st75> what are some other popular irc clients for nix? i just use konversation cause it was pre-loaded with kubuntu
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: plus I can have everything in one window if I like
[05:30] <Hasrat_In_Office> ghost x-chat
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Gh0st75: irssi
[05:30] <eilker> the texts are so small when kubuntu starts the blue texts
[05:30] <ubuntu> umm shouldnt konversation be irc compatable? if so you could use standard irc commands
[05:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: konvi is not kvirc/ksirc. everything *is* in one window :D
[05:30] <eilker> how can i make it bigger ?
[05:31] <Gh0st75> yeah, in chans with fserves that require ports opened via dcc commands, they only seem to work with mirc
[05:31] <ubuntu> eiker like you would in windows
[05:31] <Jucato> ubuntu: IRC commands are not really standard. some depend on the server, afaik
[05:31] <ubuntu> or osx
[05:31] <eean> Riddell: you should really turn off the colored scrollbars by default
[05:32] <ubuntu> then you could ask the server
[05:32] <Riddell> eean: kwwii does the artwork
[05:32] <ForgeAus> thats true jucato
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i mean, I can one window for all the channel so the message i get in #kubuntu and #ubuntu-chicago are all in one window.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> different ircd's have different setups
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> no tabs
[05:32] <waylandbill> wasn't looking for an editor flamewar. I use kate or kdevelop. was just explaining that vim has uses. if you don't agree then that's fine.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> but there is a standard BASE of commands for clients and servers
[05:32] <ubuntu> yea but all of them have one command that shows a list of all commands
[05:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: oh... um... ok... that would confuse the hell out of me lol
[05:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you're such a power user :P
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i rarely use it, but there are times I just want to be in a few channels, not like now when I have 9
[05:33] <eean> Riddell: ok. not online, I guess I'll find some official channel.
[05:33] <eean> Riddell: outside of ipw3945d not being installed, Feisty has been working fine :)
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> eean: #ubuntu-artwork maybe
[05:33] <eilker> ubuntu: what u mean ?
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i think thats the channel
[05:34] <dhq> waylandbill: i installed ksynaptics now
[05:34] <waylandbill> dhq: did it make the pad work better?
[05:34] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I'm in 12 channels :)
[05:34] <dhq> waylandbill: nope still the same
[05:34] <Riddell> eean: great
[05:34] <waylandbill> dhq: even with higher sensitivity?
[05:34] <Riddell> eean: he's in #kubuntu-devel
[05:35] <ubuntu> umm gee now I know why I cant mount my fat32 volumes... its not in the fstab
[05:35] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont get any option should i reboot
[05:35] <ubuntu> all but two line
[05:35] <ubuntu> s
[05:35] <dell190_> do anyone know a free media player that will play MP3 without any extra packages???
[05:35] <waylandbill> dhq: does it show the touch pad entry in kcontrol?
[05:35] <Jucato> dell190_: mplayer, xmms, vlc
[05:35] <dhq> waylandbill: yes
[05:35] <waylandbill> dhq: if it does, does it show that it's using the loaded synaptics library?
[05:36] <Jucato> dell190_: btw, you only need one (yes, just one) package to play MP3's using xine-based players
[05:36] <dhq> waylandbill: but it doesnt show any option
[05:36] <ubuntu> I have had previous linux boot cd's that could do this automatically
[05:36] <dell190_> every time i try do download packages it says they are broken
[05:36] <waylandbill> dhq: sounds like it isn't loaded. you may have to add the driver to xorg.conf
[05:36] <dhq> waylandbill: how
[05:37] <Jucato> dell190_: then there's a deeper problem than the codecs
[05:37] <dell190_> do you know how to fix it?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dell190_: what does the output tell you?
[05:38] <Jucato> dell190_: can you try using apt-get to install it?
[05:38] <waylandbill> dhq: give me a moment
[05:38] <Jucato> then use pastebin to tell us the errors
[05:38] <Jucato> !pastebin | dell190_
[05:38] <ubotu> dell190_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:39] <dhq> waylandbill: ok
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> AFk
[05:41] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: please turn off your public /away message. lol :P
[05:41] <ubuntu> ummm anyone know how to read a compaq diagnostics partition?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> why is it every 10 min. my wife has some idiotic thing for me to do...
[05:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:41] <ubuntu> this is realy an acer
[05:41] <aotuser> hi...
[05:41] <ubuntu> and I find this odd
[05:42] <Dr_willis> but she cant come up with them all at the same time.....  its constantly.. NOW do thie.. 20 min later... do this... 5 min later.. now this...
[05:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: because you have a wife :)
[05:42] <aotuser> how are you!!? people!!
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  shes smoking 2 packs a day.. so... who knows how much longer that will last.
[05:42] <Jucato> roflmao
[05:42] <ubuntu> besides I'd like to know what is in there
[05:43] <dell190_> in adept it just says under "requested" it says (BREAK) install
[05:43] <Dr_willis> heh.. well my 'freespire alpha experiment' has shown 2 things.. #1 - freespire sort of sucks.. and #2 the bootsplas stuff  by default REALLY sucks - since i cent even see the error messages thats causing freespire in vmware to lock up
[05:43] <Dr_willis> never seen vmware lock up befor like that.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> click on the vmware machine. and the numlock/capslocl/scrolllock keys start flashing
[05:44] <Jucato> dell190_: I said "please use apt-get"
[05:44] <waylandbill> dhq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9462/
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you made me :( ...
[05:44] <dell190_> how do i use that ???
[05:44] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: aw... :(
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: did it say i was AFK or was it just me saying that
[05:45] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you were just saying that. I think
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't want that broadcasted on thore channels
 AFk
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i wrote that in case people were looking for help
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good. brb
[05:45] <Jucato> dell190_: sudo apt-get install <name of package>
[05:46] <firemonkeyballz> um ok... I guess Im being ignored
[05:46] <dhq> waylandbill: any luck
[05:47] <waylandbill> dhq: look up. I pastebin'd the synaptics driver section from my xorg.conf
[05:48] <dhq> can you repaste it i had a reboot so i dint recieve it
[05:50] <dell190_> how do i use that pastebin thingy???
[05:50] <waylandbill> dhq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9462/
[05:50] <eilker> upgrade from dapper to edgy ,kUbuntu started displaying text messeages very  SMALL  during startup and shutdown. any help pls ?
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> !pastebin | dell190_
[05:50] <ubotu> dell190_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <eilker> *after upgrading from dapper to edgy ,kubuntu started displaying text messeages very  SMALL  during startup and shutdown. any help pls ?
[05:50] <dhq> waylandbill: this same thing is happening to me   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/29418
[05:51] <nosrednaekim> is it too small to read wilker?
[05:51] <firemonkeyballz> eeek kde is saying that my volume is a floppy
[05:51] <firemonkeyballz> wrong!
[05:51] <eilker> nosrednaekim: yess
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> hmmm...I don't know, edgy doesn't even have text for me
[05:52] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[05:52] <firemonkeyballz> last I checked there was a pdf
[05:52] <eilker> nosrednaekim: let me solve your problem :)
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> haha.... its not a problem...I don't mind
[05:53] <lparry> Hey guys I am having problems with sudden slowdowns with Kubuntu + using native bcm_43xx driver crashes randomly in a set time
[05:53] <eilker> nosrednaekim: /boot/grub/menu.lst  ou remove any mention of quiet from the file. You should get the messages again next time you boot.
[05:53] <eilker> nosrednaekim: /boot/grub/menu.lst   *you remove any mention of quiet from the file. You should get the messages again next time you boot.
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> oh I know how to do it....I just don't like the text
[05:53] <eilker> interesting :)
[05:54] <eilker> i want normal size texts
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> is there a font size setting?
[05:54] <dell190_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9464/
[05:54] <eilker> i couldnt see
[05:54] <eilker> nosrednaekim: i still search
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> arg!
[05:54] <waylandbill> nosrednaekim: change the resolution with the vga switch.
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> no dice
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> me?
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> I cant mount a fat32 volume
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> why?
[05:55] <eilker> waylandbill>: may be me :) where to change ?
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> kde pops up and sais its a floppy
[05:55] <Jucato> dell190_: can you pastebin the contents of your sources.list file in /etc/apt/ ?
[05:55] <dell190_> 1 min
[05:56] <eilker> waylandbill>: "change the resolution with the vga switch" what do you mean ? 1024x768 at themoment
[05:56] <waylandbill> eilker: sounds like you already did.
[05:56] <firemonkeyballz> and it wasnt mounted in the first
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> so wtf
[05:57] <eilker> waylandbill>: but vga=791 at menu.lst file is it normal ?
[05:57] <waylandbill> eilker: yes. that's a reasonable setting
[05:58] <firemonkeyballz> is there some permissions set on the live cd that im not aware of ?
[05:58] <eilker> waylandbill>: so why texts are very small :D
[05:58] <ackbahr> Hi all! Does someone know globulatio2?
[05:59] <waylandbill> eilker: yes. the text would be small with that setting.
[05:59] <dell190_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9468/
[05:59] <eilker> waylandbill>: it was readable when i was at dapper, how can make it bigger ?
[06:00] <Jucato> eilker: I don't think that can be set easily. it has to do w/ the USplash (Ubuntu Bootsplash) theme
[06:01] <Jucato> dell190_: wow! you have everything except universe and multiverse disabled...
[06:01] <bomber> just installed edgy... hoping to get tv card working but no such luck
[06:01] <eilker> is it my problem ? or all people text status are so small during start up ?
[06:02] <Jucato> eilker: all of us
[06:02] <dell190_> i just installed it.....
[06:03] <Jucato> dell190_: based on the pastebin numbering, uncomment lines 2, 9, 30, 34, and 37
[06:03] <eilker> jucato: good to know :)
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> wel crap my pants you all are rude...
[06:03] <Hasrat_In_Office> huh?
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> been asking questions
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> and no answer
[06:03] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: if no one has answered you, it just means that no one here knows the answer
[06:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> the answer of your question is no monkeyballz
[06:04] <dell190_> how di i uncomment?
[06:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> it's 12:04 PM in NYC and i'm at work
[06:04] <firemonkeyballz> well why cant I mount a fat32 volume in live cd mode
[06:04] <Jucato> dell190_: remove the '#' at the beginning of the line
[06:04] <Jucato> dell190_: uncomment = enable (in Adept)
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> which live CD?
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> kubuntu
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> think I may have figured it out
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> hdb vs hda
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> my ubuntu liveCD can even mount NTFS partition automatically. i don't have to use the command line to mount it
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> duh
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> smaks head
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> yea well for some odd reasion
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> firemonkey open GParted and choose the drive you want to mount
[06:06] <firemonkeyballz> it wont on two of my machines
[06:06] <Jucato> dell190_: like how you enabled the universe repository. you probably used Adept. just right-click and select Enable
[06:06] <Hasrat_In_Office> is there any error message you see when trying to mount it?
[06:06] <firemonkeyballz> just saying it wasnt in my fstab
[06:06] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: Kubuntu Live CD doesn't have GParted. QtParted only
[06:07] <Jucato> !repositories | dell190_
[06:07] <ubotu> dell190_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:07] <Jucato> dell190_: you can follow that guide.
[06:07] <Hasrat_In_Office> jucato
[06:07] <Jucato> yes?
[06:07] <firemonkeyballz> now for the moment of truth
[06:08] <firemonkeyballz> wipes head
[06:08] <Hasrat_In_Office> for example i wanna download and install gyachi enhanced (which is not listed in any of the repositories). now how do i make sure it's not gonna crash my distro?
[06:08] <Hasrat_In_Office> it's recommended that users don't install any software that's not included in Ubuntu's repositories
[06:09] <Jucato> yes. so if you want to install something outside the repositories, you should at least know the risks involved
[06:09] <Jucato> that being said, most outside packages are fine
[06:09] <Hasrat_In_Office> i need gyachi enhanced to use it as a perfect replacement of Windows's yahoo messenger
[06:09] <Hasrat_In_Office> is frostwire (limewire's alternative) okay?
[06:09] <Jucato> if and only if the packages depend on the same versions installed already
[06:09] <Jucato> !frostwire | Hasrat_In_Office
[06:09] <ubotu> Hasrat_In_Office: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:10] <Jucato> there's even a howto :)
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> geez now I know I realy cant
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> so you think its's safe?
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh
[06:10] <Jucato> frostwire? yeah
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> they didnt put /fat_files in the dev directory
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> so, official ubuntu developers made that how-to for frostwire
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> thanks man :)
[06:10] <Jucato> not sure about gyachi/gyache...
[06:10] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: er no... everything in help.ubuntu.com/community is user/community made docs
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> and your not allowed
[06:11] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: official docs are in help.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> due to permissions
[06:11] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh ok
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> hell I dont even know if I am on root access on the live cd
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> tho it seems not
[06:14] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: you are 'ubuntu' unless you sudo, then you are root
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> yea I did that
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> and it even said no
[06:15] <CVirus> firemonkeyballz: what did you do ?
[06:15] <CVirus> exactly
[06:15] <firemonkeyballz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ mkdir /fat_files
[06:16] <waylandbill> you can "sudo mkdir /fat_files"
[06:16] <CVirus> firemonkeyballz: the user ubuntu has the authority to create files or directories in his home directory only /home/ubuntu
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> figured
[06:17] <firemonkeyballz> so how would I go about logining in to root via live cd?
[06:17] <waylandbill> sudo -s
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> you can do " sudo passwd root"
[06:17] <nosrednaekim>  and then "su and the password"
[06:17] <waylandbill> that will give a root shell until you exit it
[06:18] <Sagacious> Um - ok. Kubuntu rebooted in command line mode. Any way to make it revert to original settings or undo what it just did?
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> something screwed in your config file
[06:19] <Sagacious> Is it repairable?
[06:19] <waylandbill> Sagacious: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell what went wrong.
[06:19] <cotyrothery> Daskreech
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> yey im in root
[06:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Hello
[06:19] <cotyrothery> are you there
[06:19] <cotyrothery> hey
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> no pw
[06:19] <cotyrothery> i spent yesterday 12 hours working on getting this running
[06:20] <cotyrothery> can you beleive that
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> is it working now?
[06:20] <cotyrothery> daskreech are you on here like all the time
[06:21] <DaSkreech> >_>
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> oh geez the fstab has an error
[06:21] <DaSkreech> <_<
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Umm
[06:21] <cotyrothery> 0-_0
[06:21] <DaSkreech> >_M
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> and its not my fault
[06:21] <cotyrothery> so i guess you are
[06:21] <cotyrothery> LOL
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> because its on line one
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> dum de dum dum dumb
[06:21] <cotyrothery> You must be addicted to helping people then daskreech
[06:22] <Sagacious> waylandbill I get permission denied error
[06:22] <EvilIdler> What do I need to support the backlight on my bZerk keyboard?
[06:22] <firemonkeyballz> uhhh why would mount give an error for a blank line?
[06:23] <cotyrothery> Well i guess today is another day for me to try and get kubuntu working on my computer
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> well for all I know there could be non printable chars
[06:23] <waylandbill> Sagacious: trying to view that file? hmm. look at it as root.
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Wanna help? :)
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I am viewing it
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> im in root
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> cotytrothery, what is your problem?
[06:24] <cotyrothery> I install kubuntu then my computer restarts and tells me i have no operating system
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> geez some people take me as a noob... buh the soon learn I pick up fast
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> they
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> can you boot windows on the same computer?
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> geez sleep is in definate order
[06:24] <cotyrothery> ys
[06:24] <cotyrothery> yes
[06:25] <cotyrothery> windows boots just fine
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> well drive is mounted
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> does it give you a menu of what to boot?
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[06:25] <cotyrothery> no
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> just got to see whats on it
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> before I wipe
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[06:25] <cotyrothery> I have two disk
[06:25] <cotyrothery> one is 30 GB
[06:25] <cotyrothery> the other is 15GB
[06:25] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: His grub is messed up
[06:25] <slyfox> Can someone pelase help me fix this http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7663/firefox1jp5.jpg
[06:26] <Sagacious> waylandbill - Same error as root too
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: thats what I figure, maybe a reinstall?
[06:26] <cotyrothery> So i need to reinstall
[06:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> have you tried reinstalling yet?
[06:27] <cotyrothery> no
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. do that
[06:27] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:27] <cotyrothery> Well then i need to boot into live cd
[06:27] <cotyrothery> i know
[06:27] <cotyrothery> im not respecting this channel
[06:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> slyfox associate your desired program with the protocol/file you're trying to open
[06:27] <cotyrothery> by being on windows
[06:27] <cotyrothery> im sorry
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> haha thats fine
[06:27] <cotyrothery> ok shutting down
[06:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[06:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery right now i'm on windows XP
[06:28] <frojnd> where can I change the language of open office?
[06:28] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:28] <Sagacious> I'm on Windows Vista
[06:28] <cotyrothery> im about to be disconnected
[06:28] <Sagacious> Trying to fix Kubuntu which has randomly messed up
[06:28] <cotyrothery> computer is shuting down
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Sagacious. Welcome to sanity :)
[06:29] <cotyrothery> getting in my last words
[06:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery but....you see my other nick Hasrat_USA? that's on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft with a fully functional and ultra-fast Beryl up and kicking ass :)
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: A live CD normally works best for that
[06:29] <Sagacious> Can it restore drivers?
[06:29] <firemonkeyballz> yes!! finally know what acer has put on that 4gb partition
[06:30] <ciberparque__> where can i change the language of open office?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah... recovery
[06:30] <Sagacious> Is it any particular place?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Live CDs can do near anything :)
[06:30] <firemonkeyballz> and model number information
[06:30] <firemonkeyballz> among other things
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ciberparque_: Options ?
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> so if I wanted to.... I could change the model number information just to fook with microsoft
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> since they intend to sell out their consumers
[06:32] <Sagacious> I have the Edgy Eft live CD, what's the method to recover lol
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> u know if acer wanted this to be secret
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> they shouldnt have used fat32
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: What's the problem?
[06:33] <Sagacious> System keeps booting in command line mode
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hi BluesKaj
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: You broke X?
[06:33] <Sagacious> Quite possibly?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Log on to here in command line mode
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !X11
[06:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, does this video player load in your browser ...FF won't load this site , altho i'v turned scripts back on etc , also have the newest flash player plugin
[06:34] <firemonkeyballz> its the graphical API
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> and whats known as the thing that runs x is the gui
[06:35] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, http://www.fastcompany.com/video/player.html
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> aka kde or gnome
[06:36] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: fairly inaccurate but conveys the thought
[06:36] <firemonkeyballz> well isnt x windows a application interface?
[06:37] <firemonkeyballz> just seems that way
[06:37] <EvilIdler> X is a display server with a lowlevel API. On top of that, you write stuff that makes it easy to make GUIs, like Gnome (Gtk+), KDE (Qt) and so on
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> ok so im a quarter right
[06:38] <EvilIdler> Right enough for most purposes :)
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> just havent had the right teachers
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> if you think about it I spent last semester learning vim when I could have been learning linux
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> completely fustrating
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and now im stuck in a C++ class with a teacher whom claims to be only learning t
[06:40] <cotyrothery> is it normall to get excited everytime I start kubuntu
[06:40] <EvilIdler> OK, I figured out setting backlights. Is there a program that does the opposite of xset to read the status of a LED?
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and he is the director of the department
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> apparently
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery: yeppers
[06:40] <cotyrothery> LOL
[06:40] <cotyrothery> good
[06:41] <cotyrothery> so should start the install
[06:41] <firemonkeyballz> so I've had to learn every bit and byte on my own accord
[06:41] <cotyrothery> Should i start the install\
[06:41] <firemonkeyballz> least for the missing pices
[06:41] <Sagacious> sudo restart was ineffective DaSkreech
[06:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Go to it
[06:42] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:42] <cotyrothery> the install?
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> yes
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: What did it do?
[06:42] <cotyrothery> ok it is starting
[06:43] <Sagacious> Kinda did something, made the splash appear, then I got a black screen with flashing type cursor
[06:43] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Well if you'd like a better understanding We can walk you through it
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: what did you type?
[06:43] <Sagacious> On the black screen?
[06:43] <Sagacious> Nothing...
[06:43] <EvilIdler> Where do the X programmers hang out? The hardcore hippies, that is, not the wimpy toolkit users :)
[06:44] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:44] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:45] <BluesKaj> ok , who has a a browser that'll open this player ?  http://www.fastcompany.com/video/player.html
[06:45] <cotyrothery> Would i be considered wimpy sense i am just now learing c++
[06:45] <EvilIdler> Wimpy is choosing the easy way ;
[06:45] <cotyrothery> ok and what is the easy way
[06:46] <Sagacious> DaSkreech I kinda restarted the system - nothing changed.
[06:46] <dell190> i camt remember that dude's name that was helpin me.... but if your still here  THANKX ALOT !!!!
[06:46] <frojnd> again: how can I set my open office into my home languge?
[06:46] <Jucato> dell190: got libxine-extracodecs installed?
[06:46] <cotyrothery> because i have not found an easy way with c++
[06:46] <EvilIdler> Easy is relative, of course :)
[06:46] <cotyrothery> alright
[06:46] <cotyrothery> do you programe
[06:46] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech im just happy that google pops up with more walkthroughs
[06:47] <dell190> they are downloading now :D
[06:47] <slyfox> Hasrat_In_Office:  "associate your desired program with the protocol/file you're trying to open"  you mena via firefox file type association? When I go there I cannot add a new one, only delete old
[06:47] <Sagacious> I started to learn C++ recently. My first real language.
[06:47] <EvilIdler> Yeah
[06:47] <cotyrothery> cool
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: so You are on the command line now?
[06:47] <Sagacious> DaSkreech Yes
[06:47] <cotyrothery> well i am planning on learing a buntch of langauges
[06:47] <firemonkeyballz> since 2000 it was a sob just to read some of the manuals
[06:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: still loading
[06:47] <cotyrothery> I want them all
[06:47] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: nano and gcc scare my classmates with Visual Studio
[06:48] <cotyrothery> ??
[06:48] <BluesKaj> cotyrothery, if your worried about not knowing code to run kubuntu , don't worry about it. I know nothing of code lingo and kubuntu works just fine for me , most of the time :)
[06:48] <EvilIdler> Learn the shell well, perhaps pick up Python or Ruby or some such, and C++ is always useful
[06:48] <Sagacious> Visual C++ Is fun. Til the compiler asplodes.
[06:48] <firemonkeyballz> uhh so you can only mount one fat32 drive at a time?
[06:48] <Jucato> !offtopic
[06:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:48] <DaSkreech> frojnd: Tools -> Options -> Language
[06:48] <cotyrothery> I use dev c++
[06:48] <Jucato> before I go to sleep...
[06:48] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: :)
[06:48] <tro> i compiled/installed my own kernel and now i get no boot-up information. the screen is just blank until X starts. I don't have splash or quiet in grub. any ideas?
[06:48] <cotyrothery> kubuntu comes with a c++ programde
[06:48] <BluesKaj> yeah DaSkreech , it loads forever . Itdoesn't work in Konq or Opers either , only in FF in windows and IE
[06:48] <tro> alt+f1 doesn't work
[06:48] <BluesKaj> Opera
[06:49] <firemonkeyballz> how would I go about mounting multiple fat32 volumes?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: can you grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:49] <fdoving> !fat | firemonkeyballz
[06:49] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:49] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Nope as many as you have inodes
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Night Jucato
[06:49] <Jucato> night!
[06:50] <dell190> jucato:  is that the only package i need to play MP3 with amarok?
[06:50] <tro> is there a kernel config option that enables start-up messages on tty0 or whatever?
[06:50] <Jucato> dell190: yes
[06:50] <bonbonthejon> nicght Jucato
[06:50] <Sagacious> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[06:50] <dell190> NIGHT JUCATO !!!!!
[06:50] <Sagacious> (EE) No devices detected
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> thanx ubot
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: sounds like you broke X :)
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> saves me everytime
[06:51] <Sagacious> Awesome fun
[06:51] <xst> Does anyone know a way to view google calendars on the KDE desktop? Either through superkaramba or some other application?
 frojnd: Tools -> Options -> Language I done that but I can only change local language and than I restarted and nothing happed..
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[06:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:51] <fdoving> tro, yeah, the 'splash' argument.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: try ^^^ that URL
[06:51] <Sagacious> Ok.
[06:52] <tro> fdoving: you mean in grub? i thought that was supposed to load the usplash theme, which i don't want
[06:52] <cotyrothery> it takes forever for the install to load
[06:52] <tro> i just need a basic terminal with all the boot messages
[06:53] <fdoving> tro, yeah in grub. it's for the usplash theme, so.. that won't help you. do you use the 'silent' argument in grub?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> tro: take out splash from your grub ilne
[06:53] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I think it's quiet
[06:53] <fdoving> DaSkreech: you're right.
[06:53] <fdoving> tro, i mean 'quiet' not silent.
[06:53] <tro> DaSkreech, fdoving: i took out both
[06:53] <tro> quiet and splash are both out
[06:53] <fdoving> tro,then it should spew out loads of messages.
[06:54] <tro> it used to work with the ubuntu kernel, so that's why i'm wondering if it's a kernel config thing
[06:54] <tro> 'cause all the info is still in /var/log/kern.log
[06:54] <fdoving> i haven't compiled a kernel in years.. don't know what the configs look like these days.
[06:54] <tro> so it's saved, but not printed to the terminal
[06:55] <DaSkreech> tro:Ever considered you are on the wrong terminal?
[06:56] <tro> DaSkreech: i went through all of them
[06:56] <cotyrothery> it is taking forever
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I think that they turned up on F8 for me
[06:56] <cotyrothery> getting the install to load
[06:56] <firemonkeyballz> k I guess its safe
[06:56] <firemonkeyballz> nothing left to do
[06:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How far has it reached?
[06:56] <tro> DaSkreech: tried F8 - another black screen
[06:58] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: try using the alternative install cd, I have had problems with the live cd
[06:59] <Flosoft> hey
[06:59] <bonbonthejon> hi
[06:59] <Flosoft> I am running feisty, and I have some problems with KMail / Kontact
[07:00] <Flosoft> It doesn't show my IMAP4 folder contents
[07:00] <Flosoft> it simply stalls at the page: Retrieving Folder Contents
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <Flosoft> thx
[07:01] <cotyrothery> It has not loaded the install box
[07:01] <firemonkeyballz> ummm how do you exit the second comand line aka >
[07:01] <cotyrothery> my computer is starting to freeze up on me
[07:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Space -> I -> Press <enter>
[07:01] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: download the alt. install cd, and try that, it should work
[07:02] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ctrl=c normally works
[07:02] <cotyrothery> it just loaded
[07:02] <firemonkeyballz> was doing cntrl z
[07:02] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ahh not good :)
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> whao
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> crashed konker
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> media viewer
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[07:05] <firemonkeyballz> oopsie
[07:05] <Sagacious> Anyone know the shortcut to go back a command window when in command mode?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: huh?
[07:06] <Sagacious> Alt + F3 either made a new command window or cleared the previous one lol
[07:07] <manuel_> hola, una pregunta de novato, que repositorio son necesarios tener activados para tener los programas normales?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Oh F[1-9] +Alt
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !es | manuel_
[07:08] <bonbonthejon> !es | manuel_
[07:08] <ubotu> manuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <manuel_> y donde estoy?
[07:10] <Defdef> Hello, I am installing Kubuntu and am at the livecd installation, and livecd will not allow me to use *any* mice (i have tried 4, usb and ps2) and though I can navigate around with arrows and tab, it will not allow me to use enter to progress. any suggestions?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Space bar?
[07:11] <Defdef> LOL, wow, your right, thank you.
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: your mouse should work
[07:11] <Defdef> i swore i had tried that
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: if its not qworking in a livecd
[07:11] <Defdef> coretmon77: I know it should, it doesnt, none of my mice will work at all.
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: it may not work in the real install
[07:12] <coreymon77> Defdef: what mice?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> USB
[07:12] <Defdef> i have tried two seperate usb microsoft opticals, a dell usb optical, a logitech usb optical
[07:12] <Defdef> then tried each of them with ps2 adapters
[07:12] <coreymon77> Defdef: now that is rediculous
[07:12] <slyfox> WHere is Calendar located ? the aplciaiton launcher ?
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: i have a logitech usb optical
[07:13] <Defdef> ya ive been plugging away at this all night last night
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: there is something wrong
[07:13] <Sagacious> Horrah
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: something is wrong with hardware detection
[07:13] <Defdef> ya i would agree!
[07:14] <coreymon77> Defdef: have you tried having the logitech mouse plugged in when you first boot?
[07:14] <Sagacious> DaSkreech X auto-reconfig worked a charm
[07:14] <DaSkreech> slyfox: click the time in kicker
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Booya!
[07:14] <Defdef> coreymon77: yes, i have tried that with all the mice
[07:14] <Sagacious> Ok now I'm starting to like Linux more
[07:14] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Fairly certain he didn't boot up without a mouse :)
[07:14] <cotyrothery> sorry my computer just is lagging
[07:14] <cotyrothery> like crazy
[07:15] <Defdef> coreymon77: i should mention that last night for almost one whole hour the mouse DID in fact work. then just stopped working. i have since then tried the mouse swap dance
[07:15] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay then, did you download the cd or is it one of the shipped ones
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> oops
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm never do umount -a
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[07:15] <Defdef> coreymon77: downloaded. i have checked the cd, as well as tried using ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[07:15] <cotyrothery> so if i disappear it is because my computer froze
[07:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: that's ok I'm here all the time!!!! :-D
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> I unmonted the console
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> geez
[07:15] <coreymon77> Defdef: oaky then, edgy or dapper live?
[07:16] <Defdef> coreymon77: edgy
[07:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You need more ram :)
[07:16] <coreymon77> Defdef: odd, have you installed yet?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[07:16] <coreymon77> Defdef: i mean real install
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Should help speed you up
[07:16] <Sagacious> My 1GB is really wasted on Kubuntu lol
[07:17] <Defdef> coreymon77: i am in the process of installing right now, previous installations have frozen at random points (i am blaming a bad dvd drive which i have now removed)
[07:17] <Defdef> coreymon77: going through it with keyboard right now
[07:17] <cotyrothery> what
[07:17] <slyfox> DaSkreech: and then what?
[07:17] <cotyrothery> ya i need way more ram
[07:17] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay then, maybe its just the cd
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: oh, heres an idea
[07:18] <Defdef> coreymon77: thats sure what i am hoping. i am *brand new* to linux, and to be honest after a full 24 hours of trying to get it installed im not terribly impressed, but the alure of something new and exciting has kept me interested
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: when you plug in the logitech optical one
[07:18] <DaSkreech> slyfox: Sorry?
[07:18] <eilker> how to create 3d wallpaper ? after it will be skydome
[07:18] <eilker> so sorry wrong channel :)
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: does it light up on the bottom, like it usually does
[07:19] <slyfox> DaSkreech: you said "click the time in kicker"  and then what ?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> slyfox: the calendar doesn't come up?
[07:19] <Defdef> coreymon77: as a matter of fact, only the dell, and logitech mice light up. the two different microsoft mice do not. however, neither of the mice that light up respond to anyhting.
[07:19] <firemonkeyballz> umm you know that diagnostic part... I could hide stuff in it
[07:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: the alternate install may be better if you have such little RAM
[07:19] <coreymon77> Defdef: but the logitech mouse does light up, the red opical light goes on correct?
[07:19] <firemonkeyballz> and windows wouldnt see it
[07:20] <Defdef>  coreymon77: yes
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay, that is very good
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: and btw, having these little mishaps and problems is part of what makes linux so fun
[07:20] <Defdef>  coreymon77: (and yes i have tried silly things like a mouse pad)
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: dont get discouraged, this happens many times to everyone
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: including me
[07:21] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: You can't find your mouse?
[07:21] <firemonkeyballz> hell im a half noob to linux
[07:21] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: not that, but i have had my own problems
[07:21] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: many of them
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: It'll piss you off at some point in time
[07:21] <Defdef>  coreymon77: haha, well, i work in IT support, so 8 hours of this every day just to come home is daunting, but i am dealing ok. i am still very interested in getting it working
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: It is Kool though
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Just had to move a washer/dryer combo for the sister inlaw.. and of course.. she didnet bother to make sure it fit in the spot it was suppsoed to go in.. *women!*   Heh heh.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Computers are good at making people mad.
[07:22] <coreymon77> Defdef: linux's advantages way overpower its occasional problems
[07:22] <firemonkeyballz> umm do I need to download ATI drivers before I install?
[07:22] <Sagacious> Well, I love Firefox 's ability to restore when it crashes...
[07:22] <archangel_> shalom folks
[07:22] <coreymon77> Defdef: if the logitech mouse lights up, that is a very good sign
[07:22] <stephan> hey
[07:22] <Sagacious> So my desktop and OS doing the same is relatively teh same.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  read the !ati factoid
[07:22] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  in short.. No.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <Defdef>  coreymon77:i am certainly hoping for that, i am really interested in using it. and yes, i agree about the lighting up, hoping it will work once i get the OS installed
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: have the logitech mouse plugged in when you boot up after the install
[07:23] <stephan> i have kubuntu 6.10
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: that should work
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !ati | firemonkeyballz
[07:23] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: please see above
[07:23] <Defdef>  coreymon77: ok
[07:23] <stephan> and i want to add the w32codec
[07:23] <archangel_> question   ...    my dvds play up to teblue rating screen. then stops
[07:23] <Sagacious> The sad thing about Kubuntu Hibernation, is it would be quicker to shutdown and restart >.<
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: and also, you said you work in IT support, right? so this should be normal for you
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[07:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !w2codecs | stephan
[07:23] <archangel_> it wont go to the menue
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w2codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Dr_willis> I always get them from the severas repos
[07:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Doesn't mean you want to come home to it
[07:24] <Defdef> haha, it is, thats part of the problem. 8-10 hours a day is PLENTY!
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !part
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about part - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !partitioning
[07:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:24] <stephan> thx Dr_willis en DaSkreech
[07:24] <coreymon77> Defdef: just done give up
[07:24] <Defdef> coreymon77: but im plugging away at it
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !partitioning for ubuntu
[07:24] <Defdef> coreymon77: i am stubborn in my desire for new toys
[07:25] <coreymon77> Defdef: also, its worth it
[07:25] <coreymon77> Defdef: to get away form the evil that is windoze, id do anything
[07:26] <archangel_> why is that?
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> Micrloof sais I spy a file
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: anyways, i have to go back to class now
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: good luck
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> that I dont like
[07:26] <stephan> is Dennis "Seveas" Kaarsemaker dutch?
[07:26] <Defdef> coreymon77: haha, well one of my biggest concerns (and reasons for thinking about going back to windows) is i am a large gamer
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> or I spy a user I dont like
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: dont worry
[07:26] <slyfox> How do I make it so that when I opne a .ics calendar file it asks me to add it to my calendar? Because at the moment the only thing that happens is Korganizer opens and shows me my to do list. ?
[07:26] <Defdef> coreymon77:  ok see ya corey, thanks for the help
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: wine, crossover, vmware and cedega are your friends for that
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: and you can always dual boot
[07:27] <Defdef> coreymon77:  true
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: well cya
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: good luck
[07:27] <BluesKaj> Defdef, buy a gaming console ! :)
[07:27] <Defdef> coreymon77:  bye!
[07:27] <Defdef> blueskaj: i have a wii and love it
[07:27] <BluesKaj> pcs are for computer users
[07:27] <Defdef> blueskaj: and just beefed up my main gaming pc, this linux box is just for fun
[07:27] <dell190> FINALLY EVERYTHING IS WORKING !!!!
[07:28] <Defdef> blueskaj:command and conquer 3 baby!
[07:28] <BluesKaj> games...bah humbug ! :)
[07:28] <Defdef> blueskaj: oh man! your missin out. pc games > everything
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Games = for the weak.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> irc = better then games.
[07:28] <firemonkeyballz> defdef Im moving to linux because of what mickeysoft decided to do
[07:29] <Sagacious> !X11
[07:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:29] <hatta> games rule
[07:29] <BluesKaj> I do outdoor sports
[07:29] <hatta> especially nethack
[07:29] <firemonkeyballz> I dont think they are going to limit it to vista
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I bought a pc game the other day.. it wouldent even run.. due to the cd-copy protection.
[07:29] <firemonkeyballz> particularlly becasue there have been strange updates that only add files
[07:29] <Defdef> dr_willis: haha ya, you can thank the RIAA for that
[07:29] <BluesKaj> well ,i used to til i got old and my knee started acting up, but i still go outside in the fresh air etc
[07:30] <stephan> E: could not find w32codecs
[07:30] <Defdef> dr_willis: just makes the art of piracy a little trickier for people like me
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> Dr_willis
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> what company made it?
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> or rather what kind of copy protection?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !codecs | stephan
[07:31] <ubotu> stephan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <Hasrat_In_Office> okay i'm confused and want to ask a question. If I am able to run Beryl, which is a composite manager, then is it running on XGL? my video card is nvidia geforce 7300 LE 256 MB ultrabuffer
[07:31] <firemonkeyballz> because it may be easy to remove
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Possibly you could have it on AIGLX
[07:32] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  no idea.. i went to gamecopyworld.com and found a no cd crack. :)
[07:32] <stephan> thx
[07:32] <firemonkeyballz> what game?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  and now the game loads instantly - instead of trying lame cd protection.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Psyconauts
[07:32] <Dr_willis> or somthing like that. was $6 in the bargin bin.
[07:32] <firemonkeyballz> oh geez Ive seen that on torrent
[07:32] <Hasrat_In_Office> DaSkreech okay but as far as i can remember, i never had to seperately install either AIGLX or XGL or anything to run Beryl.
[07:32] <eilker> !blender
[07:32] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[07:32] <Defdef> lol
[07:33] <mayer_> any1 know of a solution to get lifechat zx-6000 headset work under linux?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Probably AIGLX then
[07:33] <Defdef> man, everyone do yourselves a favor....this month, the 26th, go buy command and conquer 3. so good.
[07:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> how could XGL or AGLX got into the system without letting me know?
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> im not into war strats
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> sorry
[07:33] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  what cant you find on torrents. :)  heh
[07:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> how was i able to run Beryl withoout installing XGL/AGLX first?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: It's an extenstion to X. it's pertty easy
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> tru
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> just saying someone ripped it
[07:33] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  fact is i legally bought the game.. and had to 'illeagly' do somthing so i could play it. :)
[07:33] <Defdef> dr_willis: where do you get your torrens? i use piratebay
[07:34] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm gonna type out the commands i used to install beryl hold on
[07:34] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  of course the game wont run under wine/cedega either.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Defdef,  'torrentpond' :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !coc | Defdef
[07:34] <ubotu> Defdef: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !coc | Dr_willis
[07:34] <ubotu> Dr_willis: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I did legally buy the game. :)
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> so you legally own it
[07:35] <Dr_willis> and im sharing several linux iso torrents.. legally.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Then you don't need to mention torrents caleld Piratebay :)
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> you can legally make backups
[07:35] <Dr_willis> i dident mention it. :)
[07:35] <Defdef> dr_willis: did i break a rule?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Not on Torrents you can't :)
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Defdef,  aparently - heh heh..
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Piracy is not discussed here
[07:35] <DaSkreech> We don't endorse it or support it
[07:35] <DaSkreech> We will opensource it :)
[07:35] <Defdef> dr_willis:i thought if you legally owned a copy of the game, you can have as many copies as you like?
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech im not talking about piracy
[07:36] <Dr_willis> I have noticed that many disrto makers rely on torrents to disrtibute their isos.. and edgad.. that sucks when they ONLY  have them on torrents.
[07:36] <Hasrat_In_Office> sudo apt-get install beryl emerald emerald-themes
[07:36] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I know it's just cerating an invinting area for it. Just want everyone to be aware of the COC
[07:36] <firemonkeyballz> defdef techically depends on the licence agreement
[07:36] <Hasrat_In_Office> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[07:36] <provolik> Is there someone which uses vice (c64 emulator) for ubuntu?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: bandwith is expensive
[07:36] <Dr_willis> provolik,  all the time.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Some games don't allow you to make any copies. Though most laws will allow you the leeway of one
[07:37] <Dr_willis> provolik,  you proberly will have better luck using the source code to compile the latest. and you do need to get the 'rom' packages for it to work. if using the apt packages
[07:37] <provolik> Uhm
[07:37] <firemonkeyballz> provolik only used windows vice
[07:37] <provolik> It's working
[07:37] <Dr_willis> The fact the games say 'you cant make a backup copy' is  in violation of some other laws... and this gets int o a VERY interesting legal argument..   of course..
[07:37] <provolik> but I cannot configure as I want
[07:37] <provolik> I need some advice
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: true and IANAL
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  ok..
[07:38] <provolik> for example: I want to see a full screen view
[07:38] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yep.. we were having a large discussion of this at work the other day. :) amazing the things the "RIAA" and MPAA come up with..
[07:38] <provolik> is it possible?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  not sure.. may be a feature in the newer versions.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  theres like 2 menus one on right click, one on left click
[07:38] <provolik> yes I know
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I do know that EULA's break the law but you agreeing to the breach of law then arguing that you should at least keep the spoils garnered by that breach is tenuous at best
[07:39] <Dr_willis> provolik,  and the newer versions have some gtk patch's for a slightly better interface.
[07:39] <Hasrat_In_Office> DaSkreech so do you think when i typed sudo apt-get install beryl etc etc the XGL or AGXL thingy was automatically installed?
[07:39] <provolik> ok
[07:39] <provolik> maybe I think I will download the newee version
[07:39] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech, so its ok if i break the law if you sign a waver lettting me say..err.. murder you.. :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Good guess :)
[07:39] <firemonkeyballz> umm do you agree when  you bypass the continue button?
[07:39] <BluesKaj> RIAA can see the end of it's influence and validity ...it's drowning but doesn't feel the water :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  heh heh-- but WE dont want to get this argument going...
[07:39] <dell190> anyone know where i can get a program that will rip audio CD's and make them MP3???
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Yeah but you then can't get anythign I left you in my will
[07:40] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i just want your dog!
[07:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: haha that just goes to show you don't know my dog :)
[07:40] <provolik> I have already 1.20
[07:40] <Dr_willis> I got a Pomerianian thats a regular beast!
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Mine has put three people in hospital
[07:40] <alberto> hi
[07:41] <DaSkreech>  one for twoo weeks
[07:41] <alberto> where in konqueror is autostart?? I cant find it
[07:41] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[07:41] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:41] <cotyrothery> sorry about that my computer froze
[07:41] <cotyrothery> are you still there
[07:41] <firemonkeyballz> Ive noticed most eulas are centric on that checkbox that sais I read this and agree... what if you bypass it? say by enabling a button
[07:41] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yup
[07:41] <Hasrat_In_Office> he can also put you in hospital too DaSkreech. so be aware. just because you treat your dog like your slave and made him/her obey you doesn't necessarily mean someday he/she won't change his/her mind and go against your rules and tyranny
[07:42] <cotyrothery> i have like 128 mb of ram
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: honestly. turn off loggin in Konversation
[07:42] <DaSkreech> It'll flood you
[07:42] <cotyrothery> what
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: He loves me :)
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Settings _> configure - > Logging _> Turn it off
[07:42] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:43] <cotyrothery> what will it do
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Turn off loggin
[07:43] <firemonkeyballz> you wont recieve teh login and log off messages
[07:43] <cotyrothery> were are settings
[07:43] <DaSkreech> it is dumping into your RAM and making it run slower
[07:43] <cotyrothery> oh
[07:43] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: at the top of Konversation
[07:43] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:44] <firemonkeyballz> yey finally found adept
[07:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> duh! it's true that it's bad that konversation has got logging enabled by default
[07:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> i thought it was dumping the IRC texts into a .txt file, not the RAM
[07:45] <firemonkeyballz> does it matter if your running from ram?
[07:45] <cotyrothery> i cant find it
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: He's on a Live Cd
[07:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh shiiiate :P
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: at ext file IS RAM
[07:45] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Do you see the settings menu at the top of Konversation?
[07:45] <cotyrothery> yes
[07:46] <cotyrothery> there are four diffrent configures
[07:46] <cotyrothery> in settings
[07:46] <DaSkreech> settings ->Configure Konversation _> logging
[07:46] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:46] <cotyrothery> ok i did it
[07:46] <DaSkreech> disable it
[07:46] <firemonkeyballz> anyone use the OCR program?
[07:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> optical character recognition?
[07:47] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: That should delay your demise
[07:47] <Soufle> hi
[07:47] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:47] <firemonkeyballz> cuz hp never did give us a decent copy
[07:47] <cotyrothery> well i have only 128 mb of ram LOL
[07:47] <cotyrothery> crapy computer
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[07:47] <cotyrothery> in konsole?
[07:47] <Hasrat_In_Office> no i don't. but once upon a time i needed to convert some texts from a book into electronic files and i think i paid someone to do that and he in fact used OCR
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: get some more if you can :)
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: No
[07:47] <cotyrothery> I am going to buy a new computer
[07:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok listen to me before you act :)
[07:48] <cotyrothery> i have 20 dollors saved up
[07:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> well my
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> Idea
[07:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press alt+ctrl + f1 and it will bring you to a terminal
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> is to get some decent voice fonts
[07:48] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:48] <DaSkreech>  press alt+ctrl+F7 tp get back here
[07:48] <alberto> why  GO - AUTOSTART is not in konqueror ?
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> and convert my books into mp3s
[07:48] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm gonna buy that famous hand-cranked 100 dollar laptop with linux built into it :)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> alberto: They took out the Go menu
[07:48] <mayer_> since there seems to be no solution to get lifechat zx-6000 work in linux, any1 got a good tip on a great headset with mic?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> mayer_,  you are refering to a USB mic/headset?
[07:49] <mayer_> Dr_willis: yes
[07:49] <archangel_> I info on two things playing DVDs again and fixing the way my printer prints (print twards the bottom left corner)
[07:49] <archangel_> (need info, I mean)
[07:49] <alberto> DaSkreech: Why? :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  dvds used to work and now they dont?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> alberto: Good question. I guess it made life simpler
[07:50] <archangel_> yeah, they won go past the rating screen
[07:50] <alberto> sure?
[07:50] <alberto> I needed to go to autostart and put /home/name/.kde/autostart
[07:50] <alberto> with GO is easier...
[07:50] <alberto> :)
[07:50] <archangel_> weird
[07:51] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  what you playign them with?
[07:51] <archangel_> fantastic 4
[07:51] <Dr_willis> not what DISK.. what program. :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> try vlc, xine, mplayer, ect..
[07:51] <archangel_> lol, kaffine and totem
[07:52] <archangel_> totem needs plug ins, so that was easy
[07:52] <dell190> i need a CD Ripper that will convert into MP3 files... any ideas????
[07:53] <archangel_> but kaffine has played them before (not this particular disk though) and no wont
[07:53] <rolando> any1 here has tried feisty fawn?
[07:53] <rolando> dell190: k3b
[07:55] <dell190> i thought that was for burning
[07:57] <alberto> If I install knetworkmanager you recommend me to took out lines from /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:57] <livingdaylight> is it 192.169.1.1
[07:57] <archangel_> dell190: kaudio Creator
[07:57] <livingdaylight> ?
[07:58] <dell190> archangel: i tried that and i kept gettin errors
[07:58] <archangel_> hmmm
[07:58] <archangel_> did you try ripping as ogg files and then convert to mp3?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> archangel_: Bad!!
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I like the 'grip' for my ripping needs..
[07:59] <dell190> i just tried ripping as MP3...
[07:59] <archangel_> DaSkreech: really?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> convert from Losyy to worse quality lossy?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> lossy
[07:59] <Dr_willis> as a side note - i saw an artical the toehr day where the 'riaa - sort of said.. "We are not sure that converting your cd's to mp3's actually fall under 'fair use' "   (but i lost the url ) :(
[08:00] <archangel_> yeah, good point I guess
[08:00] <dell190> where do i get the grip program???
[08:00] <archangel_> but when your ripping Barry manalow, does it really matter?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: When the Internation trade commision says that I'll care
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !grip
[08:01] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[08:01] <bmgs> how can i change task bar colors (active, over ..)
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> umm what is the best configuration for a linux partition?
[08:01] <bmgs> kde
[08:01] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  depends on youyr needs.
[08:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byee
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> umm 1 security
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> 2 ease of use
[08:02] <archangel_> bye
[08:02] <hagabaka> everyone needs those
[08:02] <firemonkeyballz> and im installing it to the second half of my drive
[08:02] <archangel_> can anyone give me some idea on my dvd play DISability?
[08:02] <jose__> holaaa
[08:03] <jose__> desde cadiz con quien hablo?
[08:03] <firemonkeyballz> actually what I realy need dr_willis is how big should my swap be?
[08:03] <firemonkeyballz> if Im on a 35.07 gig partition
[08:04] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: usually twice the size of your RAM.
[08:04] <firemonkeyballz> 2 gigs?
[08:04] <firemonkeyballz> crap
[08:04] <fdoving> you can do with less. 1G is enought i guess.
[08:04] <jose__> hola algun
[08:04] <unholyskorn> sup people
[08:04] <jose__> alguna mujer espaola?
[08:04] <fdoving> !es | jose__
[08:05] <ubotu> jose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> sup unholy aka ubuntu
[08:05] <unholyskorn> hi hasrat! :)
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> espanol?
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> what da
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> and this bot sais its not too smart
[08:05] <archangel_> whats the command to see how big your swap is?
[08:05] <fdoving> archangel_: free.
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> archangel parted could do it
[08:06] <archangel_> ahhh yeah
[08:06] <archangel_> I think I over did it
[08:06] <firemonkeyballz> so 1 gig swap is safe for a 1gig of ram
[08:06] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: yeah.
[08:06] <archangel_> I have 1 gig of ram and a 3 gig swap
[08:07] <cotyrothery> ok that did not go so well
[08:07] <firemonkeyballz> this wont change anything if I upgrade my ram?
[08:07] <cotyrothery> what happened
[08:07] <fdoving> archangel_: but you don't ever use that.
[08:07] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there :)
[08:07] <archangel_> yeah
[08:07] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: no, i can't think of anything that would require more than 1G swap.
[08:08] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[08:08] <firemonkeyballz> windows
[08:08] <firemonkeyballz> ....
[08:08] <archangel_> hehe
[08:08] <fdoving> if you ever find that your swap space is full, get more ram.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Live CD?
[08:08] <cotyrothery> ya im on live cde
[08:08] <cotyrothery> cd
[08:08] <hatta>  anything that requires 1gig + physical memory of ram
[08:08] <cotyrothery> what happened
[08:08] <cotyrothery> i got a black screen
[08:08] <cotyrothery> when i did that
[08:09] <cotyrothery> then had to shut down
[08:09] <hatta> I tried to write a png graph of the entire gene ontology project data
[08:09] <firemonkeyballz> hatta I doubt any rendering progz in linux would
[08:09] <fdoving> if mem+1Gswap is filled you have a memleak somewhere.
[08:09] <hatta> graphviz needed more than a couple gigs for that
[08:10] <cotyrothery> so what do i do
[08:10] <firemonkeyballz> fdoving think im going to atleast use a 1gig and 512mb as a swp
[08:10] <firemonkeyballz> just in case
[08:10] <cotyrothery> I dont know how i can even run kubuntu
[08:10] <cotyrothery> i only have 128 mb of ram
[08:11] <cotyrothery> I cant run ubuntu though
[08:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm maybe damn small linux is for you?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Turn off Konversation Logging :)
[08:11] <cotyrothery> i did
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I told you to wait on me :) You ran off
[08:11] <hatta> 128 isn't *that* bad
[08:11] <archangel_> if I have another HD, can I just hook it up and let will register like windows does?
[08:11] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[08:11] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:11] <cotyrothery> 128 is horrible
[08:11] <cotyrothery> let me see you use it
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You press Alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a terminal
[08:11] <cotyrothery> ya
[08:11] <hatta> I wouldn't use kde with it
[08:12] <cotyrothery> it scared me
[08:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[08:12] <frojnd> where can I find quotation in writer?
[08:12] <firemonkeyballz> technically you can run DSL (damn small linux) in that space
[08:12] <cotyrothery> What would you use
[08:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: try it now :)
[08:12] <hatta> but fluxbox will work just fine with 128
[08:12] <cotyrothery> why
[08:12] <cotyrothery> do you want me to hit alt+ctrl+f7
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+F1 Then ALt+Ctrl+F7
[08:13] <cotyrothery> so what happens once im at the black screen
[08:13] <cotyrothery> how will i get back
[08:13] <cotyrothery> without shutting down
[08:13] <firemonkeyballz> what else do I need to do to pre install
[08:13] <firemonkeyballz> such as the other things than swap
[08:14] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech: What do i do once im at the black screen? and how do i get back with out having to shut down?
[08:14] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I dont know much about the volume formats availabe
[08:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Ctrl+F7 gets you back here
[08:15] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:15] <cotyrothery> alright so you want me to go to it now
[08:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yes
[08:16] <cotyrothery> and do what
[08:16] <rolando> how stable would you say feisty fawn is?
[08:16] <rolando> final release should be in just over a month
[08:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[08:16] <cotyrothery> alright
[08:16] <leafw> did anyone overcame the sleep/resume issues on a thinkpad T60 ?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> rolando: Run the latest Herd and you tell us
[08:17] <rolando> DaSkreech: thats what im thinking about
[08:17] <rolando> i think ill give it a shot
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rolando: I meant the LIve CD :)
[08:17] <rolando> oh
[08:17] <rolando> yea that would be safer
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rolando:  :-D
[08:18] <premier_> hello, my printer isnt working.  The print jobs window says the a file I tried to print is "processesing".  Ive been able to print before, but yesterday is suddenly stopped working
[08:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Let me know when you are back
[08:18] <cotyrothery> im back
[08:18] <cotyrothery> it said permision denied
[08:18] <firemonkeyballz> how should I format this second part? not sure what file system to use
[08:19] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[08:19] <firemonkeyballz> mitos at boot?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok forget it then
[08:20] <fdoving> miltos: find 'mouse' somewhere in system settings.
[08:20] <cotyrothery> what was it
[08:20] <DaSkreech> alt+space -> I -> <enter>
[08:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I was dumping the logs you have already
[08:20] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:20] <cotyrothery> ok im starting up the install
[08:21] <firemonkeyballz> come on I wanna preformat the drive before install with qt parted
[08:21] <firemonkeyballz> buh I dont know what file system to use
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: use ext3
[08:22] <firemonkeyballz> how secure is it?
[08:22] <nixternal> just as secure as everything else
[08:22] <nixternal> :)
[08:22] <firemonkeyballz> lol tru
[08:22] <cotyrothery> is there anything you want me to do at the install start up
[08:23] <firemonkeyballz> kinda think of it.. since mac os 10 is part unix does this mean we will be seeing viruses float around our systems?
[08:23] <nixternal> well mac os x has been part bsd for years, haven't seen anything yet
[08:24] <firemonkeyballz> curious are there any virus scanners ?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes, there are
[08:24] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech : What do you want me to do at the install start up
[08:24] <firemonkeyballz> any good ones?
[08:25] <philip> hello just finish installing kubuntu
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> KApersky I believe makes one
[08:25] <firemonkeyballz> sorry
[08:25] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Go through it.
[08:25] <premier_> philip: half the battle
[08:25] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:25] <nixternal> firemonkeyballz: no virus scanner is good :)  clamav is what is available for Linux
[08:25] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: let me know if it comes to a point you get stuck
[08:25] <cotyrothery> alright
[08:25] <nixternal> it scans your emails to make sure you don't infect Windows users really
[08:26] <premier_> firemonkeyballz: you shouldnt ever need a virus scanner unless your running a server or something
[08:26] <cotyrothery> with linux you dont get viruses right
[08:26] <cotyrothery> becuase most of them are for windows
[08:26] <cotyrothery> is this true
[08:26] <nixternal> cotyrothery: they are there, but it is up to you to run sudo run_virus :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: That's a safe assumption but not 100% true
[08:26] <premier_> cotyrothery: yeah, only recently did they start making them for macs
[08:26] <philip> why do xandros OS have anti virus scanner?
[08:26] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:26] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: if you don't get one tell us and we'll call a newspaper
[08:26] <philip> i tried their 30days trial
[08:26] <cotyrothery> I hate people that make viruses
[08:27] <firemonkeyballz> yes buh technically... every os will eventually see one virus in its age
[08:27] <nixternal> philip: the scanner, scans your OUTGOING mail for viruses
[08:27] <philip> ok
[08:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> ubuntu has anti-virus too
[08:27] <nixternal> I have a ton of worms in my inbox that I get across the mailing lists. I could forward those to Windows users and ruin their day :)
[08:27] <lipe> i need to mount a partition that contains the windows ... how can i make it, please ?!
[08:27] <cotyrothery> why do people make viruses in the first place
[08:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> philip their developers were paranoid
[08:27] <premier_> most linux viruses exsist to prove that you can make a virus for linux, and the security holes are patched almost immediately
[08:27] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:27] <philip> Hasrat_In_Office lol
[08:27] <cotyrothery> well that is nice to know
[08:27] <nixternal> premier_: true++
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: challenge
[08:28] <cotyrothery> huuu
[08:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery to try out in real life the power of their coding skills
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: and more recently money
[08:28] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g | lipe
[08:28] <firemonkeyballz> yea I know why microsoft usually scratches their heads
[08:28] <ubotu> lipe: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:28] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:28] <cotyrothery> well they suck
[08:28] <premier_> does anybody use print in linux?   I cant get my printer to work... its just not responding-
[08:28] <cotyrothery> and i hate everything about them
[08:28] <firemonkeyballz> cuz you have to go line by line to find the darn bug
[08:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery no they dont
[08:28] <cotyrothery> yes they do
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I know of two virii that existed in the wild
[08:28] <tro> DaSkreech: wrt that black screen at start-up thing. there was a kernel config option for that
[08:29] <miltos> fdowing, the mouse settings doensn't set the kde mouse as the default X11 cursor!, any other help?
[08:29] <cotyrothery> who here once a virus
[08:29] <cotyrothery> no one
[08:29] <cotyrothery> so people who makes them suck
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech I had a copy of the virii toolkit at onepoint... just one problem... I had a severe ethical delema
[08:29] <Carollo> Hi, i need some program like DDC Control, but it has to work with LG 1900J :/ any ideas?
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> couldnt do it
[08:29] <cotyrothery> all they do is screw up your computer
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> not all
[08:30] <firemonkeyballz> latest is called a rootkit
[08:30] <firemonkeyballz> think  you know what that means since you've been here long enough
[08:30] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery tell me how norton, mcafee and other large anti-virus companies survive! because of hackers who write viruses for Windows platform, these companies are able to hire programmers to write anti-virus apps, sell em to dumb customers and ride shiny cars from home to work and vice versa in sillicon valley, california
[08:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: One of them infected the machine found other machines that had the same flaw infected them then fixed the hole so nothign else could exploit it :)
[08:31] <premier_> oh, yeah, rootkits.  They'd do things like allow a remote website to install software under the users node
[08:31] <philip> Hasrat_In_Office you have a point
[08:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: So you really wanted to catch that virus :)
[08:32] <premier_> Hasrat_In_Office: Dont hate on the anti-virus people.  If people use windows, there's going to be virii. And if theres virii, theres nothing wrong with writing software to fix it
[08:32] <cotyrothery> well  i still dont like them
[08:32] <firemonkeyballz> if anyof you need a copy of shmoo.iso lemme kno
[08:32] <premier_> The real problem is people using windows
[08:32] <cotyrothery> no
[08:32] <cotyrothery> why would i wnat a virus
[08:32] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:32] <cotyrothery> yep
[08:32] <premier_> shmoo.iso?
[08:32] <cotyrothery> i hate window
[08:32] <cotyrothery> s
[08:32] <cotyrothery> with all my heart
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> hacker convention... and group whom made it
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> contains tools
[08:33] <BluesKaj> Hasrat_In_Office, some ppl claim (conspiracy theorists) that Norton etc write some of the viruses to keep themselves in business :)
[08:33] <cotyrothery> What good is windows when you have linux
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> and tor
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> basically its used for anon
[08:33] <premier_> BluesKaj: didnt they right a linux virus to try to market anti-virus to linux?
[08:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm not hating the anti-virus people. I admit the programmers/hackers who work for Symantec are seriously highly skilled because as soon as a new virus comes out, they find it out somehow and either release a patch for it or integrate the patch into their regular signature updates
[08:34] <BluesKaj> premier_, dunno, never heard that one
[08:34] <premier_> they didnt release it, they just wanted to prove they could
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: How do you know they didn't release it ? ;-)
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[08:34] <DaSkreech> premier_: Yes they did
[08:34] <cotyrothery> who here likes windows
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> tru most rootkits hide in windows
[08:34] <premier_> cotyrothery: me! (jk lol)
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> and oh so verry well
[08:35] <DaSkreech>  It allws me to know when the SUN has gone away and I can break out eh java :)
[08:35] <cotyrothery> Well i hat WINDOWS
[08:35] <cotyrothery> hate
[08:35] <premier_> DaSkreech: there a-making thats open-source now! yea!
[08:35] <declan> hi, is anyone able to help with simplymepis here?
[08:35] <firemonkeyballz> oh speaking of wich sun did make a personal computer that you had no controll over in the 90's
[08:35] <cotyrothery> and there overly priced software
[08:35] <premier_> declan: I used it for a while
[08:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: oh wait you mean the Operating System? Yeah I hate that
[08:35] <firemonkeyballz> operated like a dumb terminal
[08:36] <premier_> declan: honestly I think kubuntu is better, or ubuntu.
[08:36] <Hasrat_In_Office> it might also be possible, DaSkreech and premier_, that they themselves, with some additional assistance from MS, wrote some malicious scripts, advertised it in media as harmful and went on selling their apps touting that their apps would destroy the scripts in question. However, you do realize that if they really did anything like that, they would have had to do it with extreme caution
[08:36] <DaSkreech>  Windows are cool though. And sometimes The Doors
[08:36] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:36] <firemonkeyballz> not talking about solaris
[08:36] <cotyrothery> well microsoft
[08:36] <cotyrothery> i hate microsoft
[08:36] <firemonkeyballz> and solaris is linux
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Not really :)
[08:36] <cotyrothery> ubuntu is the best linux out
[08:36] <declan> premier: im trying out 6.5, its based on kubuntu now so should be very similar. having a problem with a wifi card that is supposed to be working out of box!
[08:36] <premier_> firemonkeyballz: solaris is unix, linux is unix, solaris is not linux
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Naw I have no beef with Microsoft as a technical company. They are pretty good in terms of vision and striving to reach there
[08:37] <DaSkreech>  Business practices suck though
[08:37] <cotyrothery> Software price sux
[08:37] <premier_> declan, can you tell me more?
[08:37] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech they sold us out!!
[08:37] <DaSkreech> premier_: linux is NOT UNIX
[08:37] <nysosym> is there a kde alternative for inkscape?
[08:37] <cotyrothery> I dont want to spend 100 dollors on software
[08:37] <firemonkeyballz> dude I hate their buisness practices
[08:37] <DaSkreech> nysosym: The KDE guys use Inkscape to make the KDE icons :)
[08:37] <Hasrat_In_Office> gnu = gnu's not unix
[08:37] <declan> premier_: sure, thanks. I have a dlink dwl-g510 pci card. when i try iwconfig in terminal it lists no wifi cads
[08:38] <premier_> DaSkreech: alright, technically no, but it is... what do they call it... a unix derivative
[08:38] <cotyrothery> does windows lose money to linux
[08:38] <BluesKaj> and BSD is NOT LINUX ! :)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> premier_: It's UNIX like
[08:38] <cotyrothery> or because of linux
[08:38] <premier_> declan: can you do lspci?
[08:38] <firemonkeyballz> if microsoft could have their way... they would be a political power
[08:38] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery yes, a lot of money
[08:38] <DaSkreech> BSD IS UNIX
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Wow that feels like shouting  :)
[08:38] <BluesKaj> yup
[08:38] <cotyrothery> funny
[08:38] <cotyrothery> i hope they go broke
[08:38] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery they have already started to lose money
[08:38] <nysosym> DaSkreech: sure, but i wan't gnome files on my kde machine
[08:38] <cotyrothery> that is great
[08:39] <cotyrothery> are they tryiing to stop it
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: I guess you mean you don't
[08:39] <cotyrothery> so they can get money back
[08:39] <declan> premier_: lists as network controller, RALink RT2561/RT61 Rev B
[08:39] <Hasrat_In_Office> with kde and beryl, i wouldn't want to spend a single dime on vista
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: ask in #kde what the closest thing is
[08:39] <cotyrothery> I love kde
[08:39] <premier_> Hasrat_In_Office: are we sure that people arent just buying macs, or not buying new computers at all?
[08:39] <cotyrothery> i cant wait for it to be my main os
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Oh tell me what they say
[08:40] <unholyskorn> i got vista ultimate
[08:40] <unholyskorn> lol
[08:40] <cotyrothery> it sucks
[08:40] <premier_> unholy is right
[08:40] <cotyrothery> it has all sorts of problems
[08:40] <philip> i hate mac you need to buy the mac os and computers grrrrr
[08:40] <qex> hi
[08:40] <premier_> unholyskorn: can you tell us what you think?
[08:40] <qex> anyone good at C?
[08:40] <Alpha_Cluster> guys MS bashing to #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <cotyrothery> the dumb install still has not loaded
[08:41] <unholyskorn> its ok
[08:41] <unholyskorn> looks nice, runs ok
[08:41] <unholyskorn> its just xp with a newer look and some new features
[08:41] <BluesKaj> I see PC World magazine touting the wonders of the Vista Aero eye candy system ... the editorials are also saying that it's a fait accompli , so we'd better get used to Vista, cuz it's gonna rule whether we like it or not.
[08:41] <premier_> declan, I know you have to do lsmod and look to see if there is a driver for you wireless card, but after that I cant help you. Im fairly new myself
[08:41] <Hasrat_In_Office> truly speaking, if MS sends me a free copy of windows Vista with latest hardware and video cards to test their Aero thingy, i would decline the offer since 1. i don't have time for Vista for numerous reasons (it would take me a whole day to describe the bugs found after vista's official release) 2. speaking of 3d accelerated desktop, Beryl/Compwiz kicks arse and it would take MS some more 20 years of research and an
[08:42] <Hasrat_In_Office> lmao Aero Eye candy system
[08:42] <unholyskorn> i cant even get beryl to work
[08:42] <declan> premier_: no problem thanks. So is ralink my card or the driver it thinks is for my card?
[08:42] <premier_> unholyskorn: 3 new features?
[08:42] <unholyskorn> yah a couple
[08:42] <firemonkeyballz> so its just the ext3 and swap?
[08:42] <cotyrothery> Well when i get kubuntu working i will be in heaven
[08:42] <premier_> declan: should be the card itself.  I dont know what lsmod would return if anything
[08:42] <Hasrat_In_Office> nobody is bashing MS. everyone is just telling the utmost truth
[08:42] <cotyrothery> no more slowness
[08:43] <declan> premier_: thanks mate. appreciate it.
[08:43] <firemonkeyballz> so its just the ext3 and swap?
[08:43] <Alpha_Cluster> Hasrat_In_Office: i know but it doesn;t belong in the support channel
[08:44] <BluesKaj> dunno i tried A Vista RC back in nov ...it din't recognize most of my hardware and my pc is less than a yr old
[08:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> by the way can i ask an important question to any operator in this room, if they are awake? i see that some people/IP Addresses have been banned. what did they actually do to get banned?
[08:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> alpha oh okay then :P
[08:44] <cotyrothery> i guess flood
[08:44] <qex> anyone got c?
[08:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> no it can't be flood
[08:45] <qex> sorry
[08:45] <qex> anyone good at c++?
[08:45] <premier_> yeah, I noticed at a best buy on a good, new laptop that vista said it was using 50% of the system resources with nothing running but the os... Im currently using 1% of processor and 10% of ram, with several programs running
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> Its just annoyhing when i come in here and see floods of MS stuff insead of support stuff
[08:45] <cotyrothery> flooding will get you banned
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: like what type of C++ stuff?
[08:45] <firemonkeyballz> qex like GCC?
[08:45] <unholyskorn> yah my vista runs fine
[08:45] <nysosym> DaSkreech: the alternative is........................... inkscape ^^
[08:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> g++ forever! :)
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> firemonkeyballz: it woulg be g++
[08:45] <unholyskorn> and my comp is rated 4.5 outta 5.9 on the rank
[08:45] <BluesKaj> Alpha_Cluster, well , got a question ?
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> did say C also
[08:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> so alpha are you an op?
[08:46] <Alpha_Cluster> lol no
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> qex if you have ubuntu you have all the tools you need
[08:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh ok
[08:46] <premier_> guys maybe we should move to offtopic
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> just look it up
[08:46] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: you need to install build-essentials
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> technically no
[08:47] <firemonkeyballz> I thought the were there
[08:47] <Alpha_Cluster> g++ is not installed by default
[08:47] <firemonkeyballz> what about the C shell
[08:47] <Hasrat_In_Office> g++ is installed by default in edgy
[08:47] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Ha ha :) yeah that's what I thought
[08:47] <Alpha_Cluster> no g++ is part of the build-essentials package
[08:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How far has it reached?
[08:48] <cotyrothery> when is the dumb install box going to come up
[08:48] <bonbonthejon> how do I restart kicker
[08:48] <cotyrothery> no were
[08:48] <cotyrothery> the install box has not come up
[08:48] <premier_> bonbonthejon: alt-f2 and type kicker
[08:48] <cotyrothery> so i have not started
[08:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, any firm date in April for the Fiesty release ?
[08:48] <bonbonthejon> premier_: its running now, I want to restart it, there is a dcop command
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !feisty
[08:48] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:48] <gioacchino> hello
[08:49] <premier_> bonbonthejon: no clue
[08:49] <qex> alpha_cluster -> this is the problem with me c project
[08:49] <qex> line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:49] <qex>  line 7: `char *randstr(int);
[08:49] <philip> what's the difference between edgy and fiesty?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> There is the schedule
[08:49] <gioacchino> I have a question
[08:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: that's worrying
[08:49] <gioacchino> how to use sudo on a sh script ?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: are you sure you don't want to try a alternate install?
[08:49] <qex> line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:49] <qex> line 7: `char *randstr(int);
[08:49] <BluesKaj> April has 30 days...i wonder which day , that's all
[08:49] <cotyrothery> what is the alternate install
[08:50] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery:  a new CD
[08:50] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: wait you are using a pointer like a function...
[08:50] <cotyrothery> So i need to use another cd
[08:50] <gioacchino> !it
[08:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:51] <firemonkeyballz> buh when its public it would beta right?
[08:51] <BluesKaj> ahh, April 19th , then i'll wait til 21st or 22nd to install off the net
[08:52] <cotyrothery> Should i use another CD
[08:52] <cotyrothery> is that what your saying
[08:52] <manu_> peewee
[08:52] <qex> Alpha_Cluster -> Im not so good at c or english speak so please explain what you mean? :) can you change the code to me so it works or what do you mean?
[08:53] <firemonkeyballz> ummm do I need to turn off lilo so windows can boot?
[08:53] <unholyskorn> do i have to restart linux and crap when i install updates and stuff?
[08:53] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: how are you using randstr? cause you have it set as a pointer and are using it as a function at the same time.
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> unholyskorn: of course no
[08:54] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: i would try and help more but i have to goto class.
[08:54] <cotyrothery> daskreech are you there
[08:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yes
[08:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You have a burner?
[08:55] <cotyrothery> no
[08:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: :-( How much for a stick of RAM?
[08:56] <cotyrothery> what
[08:56] <iamsam9895> I know that guy!
[08:56] <cotyrothery> i dont knwo i think 20 to 40 dollors
[08:56] <iamsam9895> You frequent the pspvault.com forums, don't you?
[08:56] <jim__> does anyone know of a good resource to learn command line programming
[08:56] <cotyrothery> ya
[08:56] <cotyrothery> im him
[08:56] <iamsam9895> Yes, I know.
[08:57] <iamsam9895> Hence your name.
[08:57] <cotyrothery> you go to psp-vault
[08:57] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:57] <iamsam9895> Yeah.
[08:57] <cotyrothery> you cought me
[08:57] <iamsam9895> So I did.
[08:58] <maelcum_> jim__ :gogle for "bash tutorial" and read more than one
[08:58] <cotyrothery> getting hlep
[08:58] <maelcum_> *google
[08:58] <cotyrothery> i never get help
[08:58] <cotyrothery> im the one always helping
[08:58] <iamsam9895> My ati card doesn't work with kubuntu.
[08:58] <iamsam9895> It's a ATiRADEON 9200
[08:59] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[08:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Sorry someone came to the door
[08:59] <iamsam9895> I keep getting a  "XFree86-DRI" missing error.
[08:59] <jim__> thanks maelcum
[08:59] <cotyrothery> you just disappear most of the time
[09:00] <Hasrat_In_Office> is the room #ubuntu only for users with GNOME only?
[09:00] <cotyrothery> oh ok
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I'm at work coding
[09:00] <cotyrothery> oh
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: how did you get this Cd?
[09:00] <cotyrothery> your a coder
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Not really
[09:00] <cotyrothery> free ship it
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Did it come with Two CDs?
[09:01] <cotyrothery> i have a lot
[09:01] <Hasrat_In_Office> i love downloading and burning liveCDs from the net
[09:01] <firemonkeyballz> any need to lable my part?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Oh :)
[09:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: they come in a sleeve right?
[09:01] <iamsam9895> Will somebody help me get my ATiRADEON card to work with kubuntu?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !ati | iamsam9895
[09:01] <ubotu> iamsam9895: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati | iamsam9895
[09:02] <DaSkreech> I win
[09:02] <iamsam9895> Thank you Skreech!
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> :(
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Hey No head starts!!
[09:02] <unholyskorn> anyone good with beryl AND ATI?
[09:02] <Skuller> yea wait for me to start too
[09:03] <DaSkreech> unholyskorn: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Watch out for that...... tree
[09:04] <Skuller> DaSkreech: damn...u cudda told me b4
[09:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[09:04] <cotyrothery> i have over 5 cd's of kubuntu
[09:04] <firemonkeyballz> alright Im doing it
[09:05] <firemonkeyballz> geez just so you can stop ignoring me
[09:05] <firemonkeyballz> just have some reservations about fooking up my drive
[09:05] <cotyrothery> so is there away to fix my problem
[09:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Are all of them Live Cds?
[09:05] <cotyrothery> i would think so
[09:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Are they all printed with Desktop Cd ?
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> uhhh
[09:06] <cotyrothery> they are what i got from kubuntu
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> cd ver I belive was a
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> 600mb iso
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> single
[09:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: The Install still hasn't opened?
[09:06] <iamsam9895> Did you check the MD5's?
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> and the DVD was 3.5
[09:06] <cotyrothery> nope
[09:07] <cotyrothery> it might be because im running irc
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: What's the command for the ubiquity installer?
[09:07] <cotyrothery> and it is lagging my computer
[09:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I hope not :)
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no idea...I rarely do installs
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[09:08] <cotyrothery> I wish this night mare would end
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> cotyrothery get Damn SMall Linux
[09:08] <cotyrothery> All i want is a working kubuntu os :(
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> its just as good
[09:08] <cotyrothery> i cant
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> just smaller
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> why
[09:09] <Skuller> hey guys how much space on my hdd does /media take?
[09:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: The alternate install would work
[09:09] <cotyrothery> even if i wanted it
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> why
[09:09] <cotyrothery> so i should use another disk
[09:09] <cotyrothery> because i dont have a burner
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> dsl is 5mb
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> er
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> 50
[09:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: and none of yours are a non live install
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> touch pad is sensitive in linux geez
[09:10] <cotyrothery> how would they be non live
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Can you shut down syslogd
[09:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: they have a text install
[09:10] <cotyrothery> I thought they were all live cd
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> damn small linux can run in windows and boot off a thumb drive
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> and install on to the hard drive
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think so.
[09:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: no not all. They have the Alternate CDs
[09:11] <cotyrothery> so how do i install without live cd
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I thought the Shipit policy was to send the recipent Both versions of the CD :-(
[09:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Or more memory.
[09:11] <cotyrothery> my edubuntu installs without live cd
[09:11] <cotyrothery> but it still does not work
[09:11] <DaSkreech> I could sit here and tweak your LIve Cd to use less memory so that you could get a better install experience
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no. they send Live CD.
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Ah that sucks
[09:12] <firemonkeyballz> ok have a 32.96 boot drive for linux and a 2.11gb swap... install?
[09:12] <cotyrothery> i start up after installing it and the same thing no operating system
[09:12] <firemonkeyballz> ok have a 32.96 boot drive for linux and a 2.11gb swap... install?
[09:12] <cotyrothery> it is the same with all my ubuntu cds
[09:12] <cotyrothery> i install then
[09:12] <cotyrothery> restart
[09:13] <cotyrothery> and get a no operating system
[09:13] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You did one install for Edubeunt and one for Kubuntu?
[09:13] <firemonkeyballz> am I here?
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: there isn't an option on install to use lilo is there?
[09:13] <cotyrothery> yep
[09:13] <Hasrat_In_Office> firemonkeyballz yes
[09:13] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Sure
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no. Grub is the default one
[09:13] <firemonkeyballz> second how do you disable lilo
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> for simplicity sake
[09:13] <BluesKaj> why such a lrge swap, 1Gig is plenty
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Apparently his computer doesn't like grub
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> just covering my ass
[09:14] <DaSkreech> or it won't install in the correct place
[09:14] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: You have a wide ass
[09:14] <BluesKaj> waay more than you need or will ever use
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[09:14] <waylandbill> I join the channel and firemonkeyballz is covering his ass. What did i stumble into. :-)
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> how do I prevent the linux loader to write to the master boot
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[09:14] <Skuller> waylandbill: lol...u joined rong time...
[09:14] <cotyrothery> im gonig to drop this computer out of an airplan
[09:15] <BluesKaj> large swap partition . waylandbill
[09:15] <firemonkeyballz> !loader
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <Skuller> !grub
[09:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:15] <cotyrothery> if i dont get kubuntu working i may never be happyt
[09:15] <BluesKaj> !bootloader
[09:15] <waylandbill> probably not a bad idea when the default kernel config kills older processes when out of memory.
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok Drama Queen :)
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> ok buh I already have installed windows
[09:16] <cotyrothery> lol
[09:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Have anyone with Fast net and a CD burner?
[09:16] <cotyrothery> im a he
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> can you tell grub not to load?
[09:16] <cotyrothery> no
[09:16] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[09:16] <BluesKaj> what is it with ppl having boot probs after installing Kubuntu lately ...I don't get it?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You'd have to do more acting than that to get Drama King!
[09:16] <Skuller> lol
[09:16] <Hasrat_In_Office> me either blue rofl
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> Im just not ready to install yet
[09:17] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Guess wedo it the painful way
[09:17] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: running live CD?
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> Im cautious
[09:17] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: started lagging yet?
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[09:17] <waylandbill> jump in the water's fine. :-D
[09:17] <cotyrothery> oooookkkk
[09:17] <cotyrothery> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i just want kubuntu to work :(
[09:17] <Hasrat_In_Office> lmao it's rocket science, aint it firemonkey :P
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> wayland!
[09:17] <Skuller> i was just wondering guys....are there IRC channels for help like this for mzoft os's?
[09:18] <cotyrothery> it is lagging bad
[09:18] <firemonkeyballz> will grub write over windows' boot loader?
[09:18] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: just kidding. take all the time you need
[09:18] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: i dont think it will
[09:18] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: it goes to the mbr, but will chainload windows.
[09:18] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: from the linux boot loader 'grub' u will be able to select
[09:19] <Skuller> windows...from there the windows loader will come
[09:19] <firemonkeyballz> ok...
[09:19] <BluesKaj> windows MBR should be recognized by Grub and install it in the Grub menu
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Drama King :-P
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok lets do a quick clean up
[09:19] <firemonkeyballz> but windows wont recognize ubuntu?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You ok with jumping back and forth between the Terminal and the GUI
[09:20] <parkerw207> is this a linux distro for those windows pocket pc phones ?
[09:20] <waylandbill> I had dual boot to windows for a long time. finally I ditched windows except for a remote terminal session to a windows server. If you have windows installed, don't worry about it. You'll get grub just fine.
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: in what ways?
[09:20] <parkerw207> i just bough one :p
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> in its boot menu
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: yes
[09:20] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: you mean "boot.ini" menu? no
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: no
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: sorry about that.....
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:20] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, a remote terminal session to a windows server. What is that ?
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> thanx wayland
[09:21] <waylandbill> but if you have boot.ini options, they show up after selecting windows
[09:21] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: same as xdmcp session. multiple desktops, but for windows.
[09:21] <waylandbill> multiple desktop sessions I should say
[09:22] <waylandbill> krdc is the client for it. works nice actually.
[09:22] <BluesKaj> but you say you dumped windows , so connected to remote windows server from linux ?
[09:22] <firemonkeyballz> so say I already installed windows and grub pops up
[09:23] <DaSkreech> and now cotyrothery goes away and leaves me :)
[09:23] <firemonkeyballz> what do I need to do
[09:23] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: dumped it from my laptop I meant.
[09:23] <firemonkeyballz> when installing
[09:23] <waylandbill> so no more dual boot
[09:23] <adrian_> wie komme ich in den ubuntu chat
[09:23] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: the installer will walk you through the set up
[09:23] <BluesKaj> IC , ok so you still had windows access across a LAN
[09:24] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:24] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: exactly. across a lan.
[09:24] <Skuller> does samba come anywhere in thtis situation?
[09:24] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I'm a man of too few words I guess. LOL!
[09:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, i have a windows network setup , but i don't have the nerve to dump windows from my pc entirely , altho wife's pc is running XP
[09:25] <adrian_> hallo!
[09:25] <waylandbill> Skuller: for a terminal session? no.
[09:25] <adrian_> how i come in the ubuntu channel
[09:26] <BluesKaj> oh how do you access from the terminal, waylandbill?
[09:26] <Skuller> waylandbill: so what are things that can be done with a terminal session when on LAN with windows?
[09:26] <firemonkeyballz> ok in qtparted what does the active status mean
[09:27] <waylandbill> Skuller, BluesKaj: you know vnc session? similar. You run using the remote's cpu and network connections. You operate as xdmcp though. Someone could use the system and you have a seperate session.
[09:27] <adrian_> hallo!!!
[09:27] <waylandbill> so you aren't controlling their desktop, the server gives you a seperate one
[09:27] <unholyskorn> what was the kubuntu channel for beryl support etc...?
[09:28] <Skuller> waylandbill: sorry i asked...i am not so tech knowledged rite now...
[09:28] <waylandbill> :)
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> ok in qtparted what does the active status mean
[09:28] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: That means that drive is bootable by the BIOS
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:28] <BluesKaj> sounds complicated , waylandbill ...had enuff trouble setting samba up :)
[09:28] <adrian_> on all: how i come in the ubuntu channel
[09:28] <DaSkreech> unholyskorn: #ubuntu-effects
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> daskeech thats why windows cant see that diag part
[09:28] <waylandbill> XP pro you can have a local user and a remote user. More than that you need special windows version.
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> its above it
[09:29] <Skuller> ohh
[09:29] <premier_> how is linux's mactel support?
[09:29] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[09:29] <BluesKaj> samba works , i'll stick with that for the time beingm :)
 and a german ubuntu channel?
[09:30] <waylandbill> I'm taking off, if you ever want to know more about it, I'd be happy to explain it more.
[09:30] <BluesKaj> stuff to do ..later gents
 hallo?
[09:30] <waylandbill> take it easy everyone. weekend's here everyone have a beer. ;-)
[09:31] <Skuller> waylandbill: laterz man
[09:31] <firemonkeyballz> crap
[09:32] <firemonkeyballz> damn qtparted
[09:32] <firemonkeyballz> didnt format the boot part
[09:32] <DaSkreech> adrian_: you can be in multiple channels at the same time
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Bye BluesKaj
[09:34] <provolik> How can I set personalized key for vice?
[09:34] <cotyrothery> dumb computer froze again
[09:34] <cotyrothery> so i had to shut down
[09:34] <cotyrothery> and restart
[09:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok
[09:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Turn of logging :)
[09:35] <cotyrothery> yep
[09:35] <firemonkeyballz> yey second pass did it
[09:35] <firemonkeyballz> !!!
[09:36] <firemonkeyballz> :DDDDD
[09:36] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: open Kons
[09:36] <DaSkreech> konsole
[09:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:37] <firemonkeyballz> is there any util to check the integ of the file systems?
[09:37] <cotyrothery> it is open
[09:37] <firemonkeyballz> or does qt do that?
[09:38] <unholyskorn> what was that channel again?
[09:38] <unholyskorn> the one for beryl support etc..
[09:39] <firemonkeyballz> is there any util to check the integ of the file systems?
[09:39] <firemonkeyballz> or does qt do that?
[09:39] <frojnd> what ftw means??
[09:41] <cotyrothery> so what do you want me to do in konsole
[09:41] <abattoir> firemonkeyballz: fsck ?
[09:41] <unholyskorn> what was that damn channel lol
[09:41] <abattoir> !fsck | firemonkeyballz
[09:41] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:42] <firemonkeyballz> ok... another thing is it normal after you created a boot volume that 1.7 gigs shows up on it?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: type ubiq and press <tab><tab>
[09:43] <DaSkreech> unholyskorn: #ubuntu-effects
[09:43] <DaSkreech> frojnd: For the win
[09:43] <frojnd> tnx
[09:44] <firemonkeyballz> skreeech?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Yes?
[09:44] <firemonkeyballz> ok... another thing is it normal after you created a boot volume that 1.7 gigs shows up on it?
[09:45] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:45] <spiderke> hi everybody
[09:45] <firemonkeyballz> anyone?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: What did you get?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Sure ifi ti's mountable
[09:46] <cotyrothery> omg
[09:46] <cotyrothery> i just got gta
[09:46] <DaSkreech> They stole your car?
[09:47] <firemonkeyballz> I didnt mount it yet
[09:47] <firemonkeyballz> just starting the install now
[09:48] <Skuller> lol
[09:48] <cotyrothery> no
[09:48] <cotyrothery> i just got unpatched GTA
[09:49] <cotyrothery> so i can downgrade my psp
[09:49] <Skuller> ohh u mean on psp...damn...lol...liberty cities u mean?
[09:49] <cotyrothery> ya
[09:49] <cotyrothery> im downgrading
[09:49] <firemonkeyballz> silence isnt normal
[09:50] <Skuller> hmm..cool...i m big GTS:SA fan..
[09:50] <firemonkeyballz> with this type of question
[09:50] <Skuller> GTA*
[09:50] <cotyrothery> i have to let all my psp fan buds know
[09:50] <cotyrothery> so i will be back
[09:50] <herk> Howdy, folks. I've got a weird problem.
[09:51] <herk> Kaffiene will no longer start after working for about a month. KsCD will start and sisplay CDDB, but will never start playing.
[09:51] <herk> Can anyone point me to a solution?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: what are bugging on? :)
[09:54] <firemonkeyballz> im cautious
[09:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: #pspdev
[09:54] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I know I'm asking what you are buggin on now
[09:54] <firemonkeyballz> just noticed 1.77gigs showed up after I parted
[09:55] <DaSkreech> herk: First solution for any app that doesn't work is to start it from Konsole to see the errors
[09:55] <herk> OK, I'll try that.
[09:55] <herk> Thanx!
[09:55] <DaSkreech> On the partition you parted?
[09:55] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[09:56] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I have no idea about the details. Why is this worrying?
[09:56] <Skuller> what is the partition utility for K?
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> data leaking
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> skuller qtparted
[09:57] <Skuller> k thnx...
[09:58] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: As in data loss Or data growth?
[09:58] <firemonkeyballz> data that just appeared out of nowhere
[09:58] <DaSkreech> isn't it free space?
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Ohhh Lol
[09:58] <DaSkreech>  I know what it is
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> yep
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> he's been contacted by aliens
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah you can get more space from a drive if you partition it
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> congratulations, son
[09:59] <firemonkeyballz> it use to be a windows volume
[09:59] <firemonkeyballz> help any
[10:00] <geert__> Go Back to Bill if you like that so muth.
[10:01] <DaSkreech> geert__: Quiet
[10:01] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: No. It's ok. By using smaller partitions you can allocate more inodes and get more efficent clusters and tweak more space
[10:02] <DaSkreech> It's just it gets multiplied the bigger the drive gets
[10:02] <geert__> oke Just anoied sorry
[10:02] <Skuller> DaSkreech: why do i have like 7mb of space remainin as 'unformatted space' wich i cant utilise?
[10:02] <firemonkeyballz> its a 33gb part
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Normally it's 8 Mb
[10:02] <DaSkreech> You get a Free 1 MB :)
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Don't waste it!!!
[10:02] <Skuller> lol
[10:03] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Yeah. My First hard drive Upgrade was to a 70 MB drive
[10:03] <Skuller> is that the cache or sumthing?
[10:03] <firemonkeyballz> this is an 80gb
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Skuller: I forget the reason. It's some IDE spec thing
[10:03] <firemonkeyballz> only acer stole 4 gb
[10:03] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Your drive is huuuuuuge
[10:03] <Skuller> DaSkreech: hmm....ok..thanx fer da info
[10:03] <sinisterguy> i need some help with beagle: it won't index my akregator stories or contacts or calendars/todos
[10:04] <firemonkeyballz> and parted in half after that
[10:04] <DaSkreech> so resizing the clusters can easily get you a few hundred MB extra slack
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> eh
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> ...
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> dont realy care unless its a few gigs
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> ukno why Im so cautious
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> ?
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> has something to do with a ye old copy of redhat
[10:07] <firemonkeyballz> think its version 5
[10:07] <HaSH> !eol
[10:07] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[10:07] <Malph> bah on stupid slow connections I say
[10:07] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Thats fine
[10:07] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: So what are you buggin on now? :)
[10:08] <firemonkeyballz> nothin
[10:08] <firemonkeyballz> just splainin my self
[10:08] <firemonkeyballz> even baught a linuxmall tshrt
[10:08] <firemonkeyballz> with it
[10:08] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Well I'm going in about an hour so I'm just trying to get you to the point where you are ready to click install
[10:09] <firemonkeyballz> 16%
[10:09] <firemonkeyballz> 19%
[10:09] <firemonkeyballz> ...
[10:10] <firemonkeyballz> 8:08 mins
[10:10] <firemonkeyballz> thikn you know whats going on
[10:10] <firemonkeyballz> I'll be back in 7 mins
[10:11] <herk> DaSkreech, I tried opening Kaffeine, and it will pause a second and just return to the prompt. I tried opening KsCD and it opens but isn't showing the CD. It returns the "normal" errors plus "Invalid reply from mediamanager."
[10:12] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: :)
[10:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: gone?
[10:12] <herk> When I try to start Kaffeine from the menu, it will do the bouncing-ball Kaffeine symbol, but then will just quit.
[10:12] <DaSkreech> herk: try sudo kaffiene
[10:13] <herk> sudo kaffeine returns nothing.
[10:15] <arvid> is there a good partition app to kde?
[10:16] <Skuller> arvid: qtparted?
[10:16] <arvid> Skuller: I'll try it
[10:16] <bonbonthejon> how well supported are the intel wireless cards
[10:16] <DaSkreech> very well I think
[10:16] <bonbonthejon> DaSkreech: i kknow the intel graphics cards are
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Oh....
[10:17] <DaSkreech> My apologies
[10:17] <DaSkreech>  that's waht I read
[10:19] <b0nn> Hi all, I want to install lame, but I cannot find it.  ie. I use apt-get install lame, and I get back "cannot find lame"
[10:20] <firemonkeyballz> k bout to restart
[10:20] <firemonkeyballz> didnt ask me crap about grub
[10:20] <DaSkreech> !lame
[10:20] <bonbonthejon> b0nn: use adept and search for it
[10:20] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[10:20] <b0nn> I have multiverse uncommented in my apt sources
[10:21] <bonbonthejon> b0nn: have you done apt-get update yet
[10:21] <b0nn> bonbonthejon: I ran apt-cache search and there was no listing
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> xing fingers
[10:21] <b0nn> yes
[10:21] <DaSkreech> b0nn: it's in multiverse
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> if you dont see me in 3 mins
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> somethings up
[10:21] <b0nn> DaSkreech: b0nn> I have multiverse uncommented in my apt sources
[10:21] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ok
[10:22] <DaSkreech> b0nn: pastebin your sources please
[10:22] <DaSkreech> !paste | b0nn
[10:22] <ubotu> b0nn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:22] <DaSkreech> it's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <b0nn> rep multi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <b0nn> deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:22] <b0nn> deb-src http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:22] <b0nn> grep
[10:23] <b0nn> as Ive said twice, multiverse is uncommented in my sopurces
[10:23] <DaSkreech> b0nn: those aren't the ones you need uncommentd
[10:23] <DaSkreech> b0nn: that's edgy-backports
[10:23] <b0nn> ah of course
[10:24] <arvid> err - say that one of my friends just realized he only made his root-partition 3GB big. can you do anyting besides reinstall?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> b0nn: look for a line a few lines above that that says deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[10:24] <DaSkreech> arvid: resize with qtparted
[10:24] <b0nn> yes and append multiverse
[10:24] <DaSkreech> b0nn: Yep
[10:25] <arvid> DaSkreech: kan you resize ext3? Isn't there some problems with it?
[10:25] <b0nn> bloody thing :)
[10:25] <DaSkreech> b0nn: You should be good after that
[10:25] <crazy_penguin> good night to all
[10:25] <herk> DaScreech: kaudiocreator seems to be working fine - finds tracks and rips them.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> arvid: Honestly never tried :)
[10:25] <arvid> DaSkreech: i don't think it's "easy" just like fat and ntfs
[10:26] <nysosym> wow, the new transition when i will logout is very nice! :)
[10:26] <firemonkeyballz> back
[10:26] <DaSkreech> nysosym: feisty?
[10:26] <nysosym> DaSkreech: yes
[10:26] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: WideButt! :)
[10:27] <firemonkeyballz> besides a bit of a diff in the part I think it worked
[10:27] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Yeah very col
[10:27] <slougi> hmm, anyone know why in feisty kde apps will not connect to any internet service after using the wireless assistant to connect to a network?
[10:27] <slougi> more specifically, kio_http seems to break
[10:27] <firemonkeyballz> and on restart the shutdown was kinda buggy
[10:27] <slougi> firefox etc. work fine
[10:27] <nysosym> DaSkreech: but the dialoge is a little bit ugly... :-/
[10:27] <DaSkreech> nysosym: It's version 0.1
[10:28] <firemonkeyballz> tho I still have work to do
[10:28] <Tm_T> slougi: I think #ubuntu+1 will help more in Feisty issues.
[10:28] <nysosym> DaSkreech: ahh ok :)
[10:28] <slougi> Tm_T: right, thanks
[10:28] <firemonkeyballz> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <nysosym> DaSkreech: i have installed kde 4 in feisty, how can i activate that, isn't listed in kdm :-/
[10:29] <DaSkreech> nysosym: There are many steps before you will forget the Old one :)
[10:29] <firemonkeyballz> I need ati 1100 xpress drivers
[10:29] <DaSkreech> nysosym: If you like you can join #kubuntu-devel and tell kwwii thanks for the logout and fade and Riddell thanks for the KDE4 packages :)
[10:30] <sinisterguy> i need some help, beagle isn't indexing my calendar or contact info in kde
[10:30] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I think ATI just shipped a new set of drivers
[10:30] <sinisterguy> or my akgregator info
[10:30] <firemonkeyballz> didnt see them
[10:30] <DaSkreech> sinisterguy: I think that may be a Beagle issue
[10:30] <firemonkeyballz> keep getting directed towards amd
[10:31] <sinisterguy> DaSkreech: i know its a beagle issue, i just need help solving it
[10:31] <nysosym> DaSkreech: ahh nice i know kwwii :)
[10:31] <geert__> Here Here Prase AMD
[10:31] <DaSkreech> sinisterguy: ask in #ubuntu as well. They would have more beagle knowledge
[10:32] <frojnd> how do I delete all the files that are in folder. I am in that folder??
[10:32] <DaSkreech> We are strigi folks here :)
[10:32] <frojnd> how do I delete all the files that are in folder?? I am in that folder
[10:32] <DaSkreech> frojnd: Ask that again
[10:32] <DaSkreech> rm *
[10:32] <frojnd> tnx
[10:32] <DaSkreech> It won't delete folders
[10:32] <geert__> Just select all end kick
[10:32] <frojnd> oops
[10:32] <frojnd> there are some foldres
[10:32] <frojnd> in that folder that I am in..
[10:33] <DaSkreech> rm -rf ./*
[10:33] <geert__> Take a jump in
[10:33] <geert__> No Driver no derections
[10:34] <hyper_ch> anyone uses feisty and konversation?
[10:34] <geert__> Lets all leave the ship.
[10:34] <frojnd> can I open .bat file?
[10:35] <frojnd> with wine I can't couse it's not exe
[10:37] <hyper_ch> frojnd: in konqueror browse to the .bat file, right click it and then select open with (if wine is shown) or select "run custom command" and type just "wine"
[10:38] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know where I can find ati mobile x1100 drivers?
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> Xpress1100?
[10:39] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[10:39] <frojnd> hyper_ch: wine: could not load L"C:\\Program Files\\xampp\\apache_start.bat": Bad EXE format for
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> use the proprietary fglrx driver
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> I also have a xpress1100
[10:39] <firemonkeyballz> how compatable is it?
[10:39] <hyper_ch> frojnd: well, then I don't know
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> very!! suspend, and decent 3d accel
[10:40] <Jonty> frojnd: wait, why are you trying to run it?
[10:40] <firemonkeyballz> so open gl will work?
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> yes
[10:40] <frojnd> am to have php
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> are you on a laptop?
[10:41] <hatta> why in gods name would you try to run apache under wine on linux?
[10:41] <Jonty> apache runs better using the native version
[10:41] <firemonkeyballz> yea acer 5100-3583
[10:41] <Jonty> the windows version may even still be experimental, I haven't checked
[10:42] <frojnd> Jonty..
[10:42] <frojnd> how can I install apache on my kubuntu thab
[10:42] <frojnd> than*
[10:42] <frojnd> which packages do I need to install
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> ok, got an acer 5050 here, same as yours except with a 14.1 inch screen
[10:42] <Jonty> frojnd: sudo apt-get install apache?
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> are you running edgy?
[10:42] <hatta> frojnd, probably 'apache'
[10:42] <frojnd> yes
[10:42] <firemonkeyballz> nope
[10:42] <hatta> apt-cache search apache
[10:42] <Jonty> frojnd: then sudo apt-get install php5 or php4
[10:42] <hatta> and see which one makes sense
[10:43] <Jonty> ok
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: : dapper?
[10:43] <firemonkeyballz> kubuntu 6.06
[10:43] <firemonkeyballz> wont use edgy till its non beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> edgy is not beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> fiesty is beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> !edgy
[10:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:44] <frojnd> jointy: now that I have installed those packages
[10:44] <firemonkeyballz> its said on the website its experimental
[10:44] <frojnd> where is the folder to save my index.php
[10:44] <frojnd> and how do I run server
[10:44] <Jonty> consult the apache docs
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> well.... its not, it was relaesedlast fall
[10:45] <hyper_ch> firemonkeyballz: feisty is "experimental"
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> well im applying updates
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> so
[10:46] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Heil
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> I may get it anyway
[10:46] <herk> DaScreech: I got help on the #kaffeine channel. Fix was to issue the command: killall -KILL kaffeine
[10:46] <gnomefreak> hi DaSkreech
[10:46] <herk> Now it works.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> herk: ash
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> well... thats going to just get security updates for dapper
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> nothing wrong with dapper though
[10:46] <hyper_ch> frojnd: check whether apache is running:   ps aux | grep apache
[10:46] <hyper_ch> frojnd: and if so, the default folder is /var/www
[10:47] <frojnd> root      2673  0.0  0.4   4648  2120 pts/0    S    22:47   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache
[10:47] <frojnd> www-data  2677  0.0  0.1   4648   960 pts/0    S    22:47   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache
[10:47] <hyper_ch> frojnd: and you can access it by http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1
[10:47] <frojnd> tnx
[10:48] <frojnd> where should I save my php files
[10:48] <frojnd> so If I wanna tst <?php> print 5+10; ?>
[10:48] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaekim do you have issues on shutdown?
[10:48] <frojnd> test*
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> no...
[10:48] <hyper_ch> frojnd: in /var/www
[10:48] <firemonkeyballz> system has haulted once
[10:49] <frojnd> oh
[10:49] <frojnd> great
[10:49] <frojnd> :)
[10:49] <firemonkeyballz> and recently it was displaying the shutdown sequence weird
[10:49] <firemonkeyballz> as if It were trying to show text mode and grapic mode
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> have you installed the fglrx drivers yet?
[10:50] <firemonkeyballz> will
[10:50] <firemonkeyballz> waiting for the updates to finish
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> yeah... they are worth it....
[10:51] <firemonkeyballz> is there a kismet version for ubuntu?
[10:51] <frojnd> hm
[10:52] <frojnd> how do I make access rights to apache server
[10:52] <frojnd> chmod +7777 apache
[10:52] <frojnd> chmod +777 apache
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> that looks right
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> bottom
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> I think
[10:53] <hyper_ch> frojnd: what do you want to do?
[10:53] <frojnd> write to folder /var/www
[10:53] <frojnd> at the moment I don't have the permission
[10:53] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[10:54] <firemonkeyballz> makes it pointless to use
[10:54] <hyper_ch> frojnd: try to make the files was www-data.www.data
[10:55] <miltos> hi ppl:-]  again
[10:56] <miltos> how can i mount a cue, bin file???
[10:56] <frojnd> I can write if I sudo kate index.php
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> screech if your stil around I saw in grub two entries in for windows
[10:56] <frojnd> but than when I http://127.0.0.1 it askes me to save or open the file
[10:56] <frojnd> :>
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> one xp and the other media center
[10:56] <frojnd> brb
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> I use media center
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: its because there is a acer recovery partition
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> same here
[10:57] <firemonkeyballz> o
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> and it looks to linux like a windows XP partition
[10:57] <fdoving> frojnd: did you enable the php module in apache?
[10:57] <firemonkeyballz> yea im just gald I can see whats in it
[11:00] <firemonkeyballz> if u realy wanted to... Im thinking you could hide things in it
[11:01] <raindog> I have created a second panel with a taskbar and a trash applet on it.  I have set it to autohide and to be tiny in size.  However, it neither hides or has reduced in size.  How can I get this working correctly.
[11:02] <raindog> Never mind I found that I had to run "dcop kicker kicker restart" for some reason to get the changes to take.
[11:05] <firemonkeyballz> nos have you got the keys to work?
[11:05] <firemonkeyballz> on the keyboard?
[11:05] <frojnd> doving: how can I enable php modul
[11:06] <frojnd> fdoving*
[11:06] <fdoving> frojnd: in konsole, 'sudo a2enmod php5' if you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed. or 'sudo a2enmod php4' if you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed.
[11:07] <frojnd> fdoving: I onlly installed apache and php5
[11:07] <firemonkeyballz> frojnd use php5
[11:07] <firemonkeyballz> its backwards compatable
[11:08] <fdoving> frojnd: then use the first command.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes, all multimedia are working
[11:08] <hyper_ch> firemonkeyballz: not 100%... there are a few things that won't work on php5 anymore
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> and the email hotkey works too
[11:08] <frojnd> it says that this modul is allready enabled
[11:09] <firemonkeyballz> natively nos?
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> yes
[11:09] <firemonkeyballz> just that euro cent is a pain
[11:09] <firemonkeyballz> its known to crash things
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> haha know what you mena
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> not crash... but it got in my way
[11:10] <firemonkeyballz> actually crashed a few programs to see if it worked
[11:10] <firemonkeyballz> just pressing it enough can
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> hmmm...
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> I think you can disble it somehow if you can get its keycode..I don't remember how though
[11:11] <firemonkeyballz> well if you can do that then you can map it
[11:11] <coreymon77> guys
[11:11] <coreymon77> im having trouble reading a cdr
[11:11] <coreymon77> i mean
[11:11] <coreymon77> dvd r
[11:11] <coreymon77> i have a dvd rom drive
[11:13] <coreymon77> can you guys help me
[11:14] <frojnd> what else shoud I try to enable php modul
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> umm.... is it a video dvd?
[11:14] <coreymon77> no
[11:14] <coreymon77> burned data dvd r
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> do is it not popping up a window to mount it?
[11:15] <coreymon77> no
[11:16] <coreymon77> its not the disk
[11:16] <coreymon77> the disk is fine
[11:16] <coreymon77> it has been tested on other computers
[11:16] <firemonkeyballz> umm nos whats the command for 64 bit dapper
[11:17] <firemonkeyballz> ati
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> does your drive mount cds?
[11:17] <fjuarez> every configure irda think pad in kubuntu
[11:17] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: the command?
[11:18] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: my drive is a cdrw-dvd rom combo
[11:18] <firemonkeyballz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c3f28515df1775ec5e62e78fd6c0f8f54e5f9302
[11:19] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: why cant i mout it
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> I don;t know
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[11:20] <firemonkeyballz> corey did you make it on another system?
[11:20] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: i didnt make it
[11:20] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: but i believe it was made on a windows computer
[11:20] <firemonkeyballz> well someone formated it only for that drive
[11:20] <firemonkeyballz> it was burnt in
[11:20] <coreymon77> it has worked on other comptuers
[11:20] <coreymon77> including a mac
[11:21] <firemonkeyballz> well could be your dvd drive
[11:21] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: so that doesnt make sense
[11:21] <firemonkeyballz> is it - or +
[11:21] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: how? its a dvd rom drive
[11:21] <coreymon77> +
[11:21] <firemonkeyballz> ummm and the disk is?
[11:22] <coreymon77> the disk is +
[11:22] <coreymon77> i dont knwo about my drive
[11:23] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: hwo do i check
[11:23] <firemonkeyballz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: I'm sorry..I can;t find any tutorials for 6.06 and ATI
[11:27] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: that doesnt tell me if my drive is + or -
[11:27] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: how do i find out
[11:27] <firemonkeyballz> umm there is a utility to check what it can read
[11:27] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: what utility is this
[11:28] <MukiEX> I fubared the link KDE has to an application. e.g. it'll run from any terminal, but putting the same command into KDE's run box points to an executable that's no longer there. How can I fix this? Where's KDE's application-running data?
[11:29] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: and how do i get this utility?
[11:30] <firemonkeyballz> looking for it
[11:31] <firemonkeyballz> http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/dvd-drive-info.html
[11:31] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: not apt?
[11:31] <firemonkeyballz> it is
[11:31] <firemonkeyballz> an app
[11:31] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: can i get it from apt
[11:31] <xtavaresx> hello. I have a problem, installing linux-restricted-modules-generic caused my X to break. i have an nvidia card.
[11:31] <firemonkeyballz> you'll need wine
[11:31] <premier_> hello, im using an hp printer, and it loads some important stuff at boot, but if the printer isnt plugged in (usb) then the software isnt loaded.  Does anyone know how to load the software at run time?
[11:32] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: okay, which program is it, there are many on that page
[11:32] <firemonkeyballz> http://www.brothersoft.com/utilities/system_utilities/cd_and_dvd_drive_identify_31437.html
[11:34] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: thats not a windows program
[11:34] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: its a dos program
[11:34] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: wine wont run it
[11:35] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: isnt there any other
[11:35] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: perhaps a linux program
[11:35] <firemonkeyballz> dosbox
[11:35] <firemonkeyballz> works in linux
[11:35] <firemonkeyballz> infact there is one for linux
[11:36] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: thats good
[11:36] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: from apt?
[11:36] <firemonkeyballz> maybe
[11:36] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: okay, what is it called?
[11:38] <hari> hi
[11:39] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: and how do i get it
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> hari: hi
[11:39] <hari> new to kubuntu, trying to upgrade amarok using adept manager
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> ok....
[11:40] <hari> it shows up saying that upgrade available, but when i click to upgrade it says 'break'?
[11:40] <firemonkeyballz> how does 17mb become 50?
[11:40] <coreymon77> hari: that means that it will break dependencies if you upgrade
[11:41] <BluesKaj> 17x2.99999=50
[11:41] <firemonkeyballz> from a compresed file?
[11:41] <hari> er... ? what exactly does that mean :P
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> Blues: thanks alot...:-P
[11:41] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:41] <coreymon77> hari: programs depened on having other programs to work
[11:42] <nosrednaekim> haru: it means if you upgrade, it can break other packages
[11:42] <coreymon77> hari: in order for a program to work, all of its dependencies have to be there
[11:42] <hari> oh ok... so esentially i want to be able to listen to mp3s etc, and default version doesn't work
[11:42] <BluesKaj> sorry firemonkeyballz, i couldn't resist
[11:42] <coreymon77> hari: if one or more of a programs dependencies are not met
[11:42] <coreymon77> hari: that program will cease to work
[11:43] <firemonkeyballz> anyway need to reboot and verify drivers
[11:43] <firemonkeyballz> so I should have ATI drivers now
[11:43] <hari> so checked out web which said that newest version will play them
[11:43] <coreymon77> hari: which will cause other programs that depend on that program to stop working to
[11:43] <firemonkeyballz> no complaints from sudo
[11:43] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: and what is the linux utility called?
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> good luck firemonkeyballz
[11:44] <firemonkeyballz> corey dosbox?
[11:44] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: dont forget me
[11:44] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: oh
[11:44] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: no the linux utility
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> hARI: what functionality do you need out of the latest version of amarok?
[11:44] <hari> um, ability to play mp3s? :)
[11:45] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: the linux utility that does what that program does
[11:45] <firemonkeyballz> was a umm ok I'll reboot
[11:45] <hari> and streaming music from shoutcast?
[11:45] <firemonkeyballz> when you figure out what your saying
[11:45] <firemonkeyballz> ask
[11:45] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | ari
[11:45] <ubotu> ari: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:45] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | hari
[11:45] <ubotu> hplease see above
[11:45] <DaSkreech> What?
[11:45] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | hari
[11:45] <nosrednaekim> oh, thats not a problem with amarok, but instead your xine engine
[11:46] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: look,i dont want to have to use a dos utility to check what my drive can read
[11:46] <nosrednaekim> thank you DaSkreech
[11:46] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: isnt there a linux version that i can use?
[11:46] <eilker> !electronic
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about electronic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <coreymon77> firemonkeyballz: all i want to know is what types of dvds my drive can read
[11:46] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: whats the problem?
[11:46] <hari> coreymon77: how do i check out xine engine problem?
[11:46] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Look on the front of it
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> do you have multiverse repositories installed hari?
[11:47] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: i just want to know what types of dvds (eg + and -) my drive can read
[11:47] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Normally written on the front of the Drive
[11:47] <firemonkeyballz> ummm before I do... go
[11:47] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: not on mine
[11:48] <firemonkeyballz> oh nm blond moment
[11:48] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: who makes the drive?
[11:48] <eilker> !geda
[11:48] <ubotu> geda: GNU EDA -- Electronics design software. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060123-1 (edgy), package size 86 kB, installed size 380 kB
[11:48] <DaSkreech> !abuse
[11:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:48] <hari> nosrednaekim: i think i do, i enabled 2 lines in repository manager
[11:48] <hari> and downloaded updates
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> ok... good
[11:49] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: samsung
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> search for "xine-extracodecs"
[11:49] <pabst__> So, I have thhis laptop with Kubuntu 6.10 on it (Edgy), but, I can't figure out what kind of Wireless NIC or how to make it work... any quick and easy solutions?
[11:49] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Know the model number?
[11:49] <hari> nosrednaekim: in adept?
[11:49] <coreymon77> umm
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> hari: yes
[11:49] <jeff_> Hi
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> pabst_: try "lspci"on the command line
[11:50] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: i think its CDRW/DVD SM-308B
[11:50] <Sanctusorium> I got a bit of a problem..
[11:50] <coreymon77> !ask | Sanctusorium
[11:50] <ubotu> Sanctusorium: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> hari I have to go.... others here are more knowledgble than me...
[11:50] <pabst__> nosrednaekim: awesome thanks, its a Broadcomm looks like BCM4318
[11:50] <hari> ok thanks nosrednaekim :)
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> bye
[11:51] <Sanctusorium> Kubuntu seems to be reading my embedded audio instead of my PCI sound card.
[11:51] <Sanctusorium> My embedded aduio chip doesnt work...
[11:51] <Sanctusorium> How could I change it to my PCI Soundblaster?
[11:52] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: first type 'asoundconf list' into a konsole window
[11:52] <Xanith> how can i mount my storage drive without it being in root permission only?
[11:52] <Sanctusorium> ok..
[11:53] <hari> i don't have xine-extracodecs, how do i install these?
[11:53] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: what does it give you
[11:53] <Sanctusorium> Names of available sound cards:
[11:53] <Sanctusorium> CA0106
[11:53] <Sanctusorium> ICH5
[11:53] <DaSkreech> !multiverse | hari
[11:53] <ubotu> hari: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:53] <DaSkreech> !mp3| hari
[11:53] <ubotu> hari: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:53] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: okay
[11:54] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: do you know which one is which
[11:54] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: anything about my drive?
[11:54] <Sanctusorium> Nope...  I am guessing that ICH5 is the embedded audio though
[11:55] <coreymon77> okay then
[11:55] <firemonkeyballz> you kno... im still getting that disk error at boot
[11:55] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: why would that be?
[11:55] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Sirry what are you looking for?
[11:56] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: what types of dvds it can play
[11:56] <coreymon77> namely + or -
[11:56] <Sanctusorium> The chip is usually refered as to "Intel something something something"  and The ICH5 starts with I...  ITs just a guess really.
[11:56] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: good point
[11:56] <coreymon77> Sanctusorium: so, try this
[11:57] <coreymon77> asoundconf set-default-card CA0106
[11:57] <DaSkreech> http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-97322.html coreymon77 there is a set of links here to the manuals
[11:57] <Sanctusorium> Alright...  Let my try some music..
[11:58] <Xanith> how can i mount my storage drive without it being in root permission only?
[11:58] <firemonkeyballz> umm whats this? 03/09/2007 02:52:25 PM	fmballz-inc	kernel	[   44.922246]  hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff
[11:58] <albert> hi, i have a problem with dvd playback, it slows down my whole pc and runs bad
[11:59] <Sanctusorium> Hey
[11:59] <Sanctusorium> *Yep
[11:59] <Sanctusorium> Worked!
[11:59] <b0ng0> Hi can anyone help me, I changed my login screen using KDM and I cant get the original back
[11:59] <posingaspopular> albert: what program areyou using
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> !ati
[11:59] <albert> posingaspopular: kaffeine or gxine
[11:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <Sanctusorium> Thanks alot Corymon
[12:00] <eilker> !science
[12:00] <pabst__> Any fast and easy ways to get a Broadcomm wireless nic to work with Kubuntu?
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about science - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <firemonkeyballz> dont pabst
[12:02] <firemonkeyballz> get your self a atheros
[12:02] <Jonty> !love
[12:02] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[12:02] <Jonty> hmm
[12:03] <b0ng0> !kdm
[12:03] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[12:03] <albert> posingaspopular: have you any solution?
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> nos!
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> it sais its a express 200
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> not an 1100
[12:04] <pabst__> firemonkeyballz: wish i could :/ its a company laptop
[12:04] <firemonkeyballz> frowns on your bos
[12:04] <pabst__> yeah
[12:05] <pabst__> so i gotta figure it out someway or another :/
[12:05] <firemonkeyballz> nos!!
[12:05] <firemonkeyballz> someone ping him
[12:06] <Mena> What is good a bout using Ext3 ????
[12:06] <firemonkeyballz> less fragmenttaiiion
[12:06] <firemonkeyballz> as I recently read
[12:07] <Mena> and i am being to hate linux bec of the diffrence bettwen xp and linux in th (iso charachter)
[12:08] <Mena> any answer here
[12:11] <Mena> !Linux
[12:11] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> where is nos?
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> there any leet in here
[12:12] <firemonkeyballz> need help
[12:12] <Mena> what is you problem ?