[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90730 in ubiquity (main) "crash while installing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90730
[12:07] <jayteeuk> Night all!
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90734 in zaptel (universe) "Confusion about location of zaptel devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90734
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90735 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "2.6.17-11 kernel killed usb keyboard and mouse " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90735
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90737 in totem (main) "gstreamer-ffmpeg recommended but can't play indeo 5 video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90737
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90739 in Ubuntu "switch user, then terminate session: system hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90739
[01:09] <bdmurray> ash211: ping
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90740 in compiz (main) "gtk-window-decorator corruption after resume from sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90740
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90741 in tex4ht "tex4ht doesn't work proper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90741
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90742 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5 on resume from suspend." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90742
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90743 in beryl-manager (universe) "gnome crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90743
[01:27] <pochu> rejecting ^ :)
[01:30] <pochu> hmm... looks like it isn't a beryl bug
[01:30] <pochu> dunno what to do :(
[01:31] <dsas> weird that the problem is with gnome-panel and the binary package is beryl-manager.
[01:31] <dsas> is beryl-manager a panel applet perhaps?
[01:32] <bdmurray> heh
[01:32] <pochu> but bdmurray is faster :)
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90748 in Ubuntu "more than 8 CPUs do not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90748
[01:35] <pochu> I want that PC!!! ^
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90745 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "gnome-cups-manager printer not working after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90745
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90746 in compiz-extra (main) "Snow plugin has default path with /usr/local for the texture" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90746
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90747 in eclipse (universe) "[apport]  eclipse crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90747
[01:37] <bdmurray> yeah, I need a system to test that
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90744 in Ubuntu "CPU Speed step broken in Feisty H5 with Intel Dothan 1.8ghz centrino cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90744
[01:39] <bdmurray> pochu: I can't find anything you'll need the dictionary for. :(
[01:39] <pochu> :-(
[01:43] <bdmurray> ah, maybe if I write a clue file with help and thanks in different languages
[01:45] <pochu> bdmurray: hehe, that would be interesting
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90749 in Ubuntu "Deluge 0.5 in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90749
[01:45] <ash211> hey bdmurray
[01:45] <pochu> bdmurray: but for which package?
[01:45] <pochu> maybe for the ubuntu bugs :)
[01:45] <pochu> hehe
[01:45] <lifeless> bdmurray: do we have clues that big ?
[01:46] <bdmurray> I have a clue file I use with a url for bugs w/o a package
[01:47] <pochu> bdmurray: then upload it to bughelper-data :)
[01:47] <bdmurray> pochu: it's very vague
[01:47] <bdmurray> _very_ _very_
[01:47] <pochu> bdmurray: then improve it! :p
[01:47] <pochu> hehe
[01:48] <bdmurray> pochu: where are your clue files?
[01:48] <pochu> bdmurray: mines?
[01:48] <pochu> bdmurray: or bughelper ones?
[01:48] <bdmurray> the clue files you have added to bughelper . . .
[01:48] <bdmurray> feel free to throw something at me
[01:49] <pochu> bdmurray: hehe, I have added noone
[01:49] <pochu> because I have created noone :)
[01:49] <bdmurray> It's kind of funny that there is so much bughelper development but so few clue files shared
[01:51] <pochu> bdmurray: yep :(
[01:51] <pochu> so we are planning a Clue Day :-D
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90750 in example-content (main) "wording in oo-about-these-files.odt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90750
[01:52] <bdmurray> Yeah, "Get a Clue Day"
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90751 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice 2.2.r3 crashes at start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90751
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90752 in linuxtv-dvb-apps (universe) "DVB - Guard interval changes for Channel Seven Australia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90752
[02:10] <mooey> bdmurray, i've confirmed bug 90686 because it has the wrong deps. what should i do to get a motu to notice it? :}
[02:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90686 in ontv "python-cElementTree dependency" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90686
[02:12] <pochu> mooey: you can fix it, upload a debdiff and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors :)
[02:13] <bdmurray> tag it packaging
[02:13] <mooey> pochu, i could, but i have many bugs that i should reply to and i am on holiday for a week from tomorrow, so i need to prioritise. it would take me _hours_ to write a simple patch like that. i cant get my head around packaging and patching and source packages blah blah
[02:14] <pochu> mooey: hehe :)
[02:14] <mooey> bdmurray, is that all? no need to subscribe any team to the bug?
[02:14] <pochu> mooey: you didn't need to explain it to me :) just kidding ;)
[02:14] <bdmurray> don't think so, tomorrow is universe hug day too
[02:15] <bdmurray> or I guess it is today technically in UTC
[02:15] <lifeless> now is tomrrow
[02:15] <mooey> pochu, i know :-) i need to learn to do it. every time i try to produce a patch for a package i get so frustrated after many hours that i give up :P i need to learn, just not now heh
[02:15] <jjesse> lifeless: depending on where you live :)
[02:16] <pochu> mooey: hehe, that's exactly what happened to me :)
[02:16] <bdmurray> lifeless lives in the future
[02:16] <mooey> bdmurray, ok, thanks. if its untouched when i get back i'll attempt to write a patch :-)
[02:16] <pochu> bdmurray: yeah, hug day here! :)
[02:16] <pochu> but I'm going off to bed
[02:16] <pochu> 2.15 :(
[02:16] <bdmurray> mooey: have a good holiday
[02:16] <mooey> good night, pochu
[02:16] <pochu> night mooey :)
[02:16] <mooey> bdmurray, thanks :-)
[02:17] <pochu> yes, and good holidays!
[02:17] <pochu> hehe
[02:17] <mooey> thanks
[02:19] <pochu> good night folks!
[02:19] <jjesse> night popey
[02:20] <jjesse> doh
[02:20] <jjesse> nigh pochu
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90753 in beagle (main) "beagle crashed on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90753
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90754 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice crystal small hangs program when second menubar present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90754
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90755 in pan (main) "Pan crash upon deleting server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90755
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90756 in control-center (main) "Glib threading init problem in gome-sound-properties" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90756
[02:33] <mooey> so many bugs, so little time
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90757 in libxcb (main) "Patch in libxcb1-1.0-1.1ubuntu1 not applied" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90757
[02:51] <crimsun> err, oops
[02:51] <crimsun> fixing #90757.
[02:51] <crimsun> [missing debian/patches/series ] 
[02:52] <gnomefreak> where is the wiki on doing bugs from email?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> its late here doing was best word i could think of
[02:55] <dsas> gnomefreak: https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ah i thought it was wiki :(
[03:04] <dsas> gnomefreak: it is a wiki,
[03:04] <dsas> gnomefreak: or it is locked down or something?
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90760 in kde4libs (universe) "[apport]  klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::isEmpty()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90760
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90761 in xmms-status-plugin (universe) "Bugs with xmms-status-plugin's yellow banner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90761
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90762 in firefox (main) "Firefix crashes when accessing external app." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90762
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90763 in update-manager (main) "Could not upgrade "kubuntu-desktop"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90763
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90764 in debconf (main) "[apport]  frontend crashed with SIGSEGV in xcall_QGroupBox()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90764
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90765 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "After dist-upgrade from edgy, feisty doesn't boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90765
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90766 in hal (main) "[apport]  hal-device-manager crashed with KeyError in update_tab_usb()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90766
[03:41] <hggdh> bdmurray: how can we get NTP updated to version 4.2.4?
[03:42] <bdmurray> hggdh: request a sync
[03:42] <bdmurray> hggdh: I'm looking for the wiki page
[03:42] <hggdh> bdmurray: k, thanks. Care to have a look at one bug?
[03:42] <hggdh> bug 90267
[03:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90267 in network-manager "ntp starts before the network is up in feisty" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90267
[03:43] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[03:43] <ajmitch> ntp would first need an upstream version freeze exception
[03:44] <hggdh> ajmitch: hum. I think we have a problem (yet one more) in regards to network-manager
[03:45] <hggdh> bdmurray: thanks again. Reading thru it.
[03:46] <mdz> a sync from Debian won't get you version 4.2.4; that's not in Debian yet
[03:46] <mdz> it hasn't been packaged
[03:46] <hggdh> ugh
[03:46] <hggdh> then, probably no real solution to the issue
[03:46] <hggdh> here's the deal: NTP is started early in boot, after network is primed
[03:47] <ajmitch> hello mdz
[03:47] <mdz> good evening folks
[03:47] <hggdh> but, for machines running under n-am control, no interface is available, and ntp will not work
[03:47] <jjesse> good evening mdz
[03:48] <mdz> hggdh: n-m ought to run the if-up.d scripts when it brings up an interface
[03:49] <mdz> I'm not sure whether it does, but that seems like a good solution
[03:49] <mdz> yes, it seems to do that already
[03:49] <mdz> hggdh: how did you verify that it isn't working?
[03:50] <hggdh> mdz: looking at the ntp entries under daemon.log
[03:50] <hggdh> bug 90267
[03:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90267 in network-manager "ntp starts before the network is up in feisty" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90267
[03:50] <mdz> hggdh: it could very well fail to start up at boot, but when the network interface is brought up later, /etc/init.d/ntp restart should be run
[03:50] <mdz> so those errors aren't fatal
[03:51] <mdz> hah. the script is crippled by default
[03:51] <hggdh> mdz: thanks. Now it is easier: all I have to do is find with the user (and on my laptop) why ntp restart was not issued
[03:51] <mdz> mizar:[/etc/network/if-up.d]  cat ntp
[03:51] <mdz> #!/bin/sh
[03:51] <mdz> # remove (or comment out) the next line if your network addresses change
[03:51] <mdz> exit 0
[03:51] <mdz> hggdh: that's why ^^^
[03:51] <hggdh> mdz: ah
[03:52] <hggdh> :-)
[03:53] <mdz> hggdh: try uncommenting that and see if it fixes things for you
[03:53] <hggdh> mdz: will do, and I guess it will work. But... we go back to n-am: if n-am is going to take care of most users, then this script should be active by default, not the other way around...
[03:54] <hggdh> and I insist in typing n - a am. Darn!
[03:54] <mdz> hggdh: the first step is to test it; we only think about enabling it by default if it _works_ :-)
[03:54] <hggdh> mdz: indeed
[03:58] <hggdh> mdz: nope, does not seem to  trigger /etc/network/ifup,d/ntp -- but ntpdate is triggered, and (of course) fails
[03:58] <hggdh> mdz: will look into it more carefully
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90768 in cuyo (universe) "doesn't have a desktop file" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90768
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90769 in qalculate-gtk (universe) "[apport]  qalculate-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90769
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90772 in gnomesword (universe) "[apport]  gnomesword2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90772
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90771 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Suspend to ram very slow and not reliable on Toshiba U200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90771
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90774 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Pre-release kernels should have more debugging options enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90774
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90773 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90773
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90776 in nautilus-sendto (main) "[apport]  nautilus-sendto crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90776
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90775 in Ubuntu "sound does not play after headphones removed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90775
[05:42] <bdmurray> ash211: ping
[05:42] <ash211> bdmurray: pong
[05:43] <bdmurray> I ran across this old audio bug that I thought you might know something about.
[05:43] <ash211> which one?
[05:44] <bdmurray> bug 45786 it's basically about choosing default sound cards
[05:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45786 in Ubuntu "Default sound card selected incorrectly on boot" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45786
[05:44] <bdmurray> That was redundant. ;)
[05:45] <ash211> heh
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90777 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes whenattempting to switch between tabs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90777
[05:45] <ash211> well the truth is that i don't actually know that much about sound bugs
[05:46] <ash211> I basically just ask people to provide the stuff from the debugging audio wiki page
[05:46] <bdmurray> Okay.  Are you on the audio team?
[05:46] <ash211> daniel chen does the heavy lifting
[05:46] <ash211> yes, I am
[05:46] <bdmurray> Okay, cool.  I just wanted to make sure I wasn't confused about who's who.
[05:47] <ash211> brian murray also gets into the guts of things
[05:48] <bdmurray> ash211: would subscribing ubuntu audio be enough?
[05:48] <bdmurray> to get Daniel's attention.
[05:48] <bdmurray> btw, I am brian murray. ;)
[05:48] <ash211> oh, that'd make sense!
[05:48] <ash211> bd_murray_
[05:49] <ash211> i'd just assign to alsa-source
[05:49] <ash211> i think he goes through those bugs pretty regularly
[05:49] <bdmurray> cool
[05:50] <ash211> so what do you work on with audio then?
[05:51] <bdmurray> hrm, nothing that specific I just try to get bugs to the right people and make sure there is enough information for the developers
[05:52] <ash211> I thought I'd seen your name roll by in feisty changes with kernel stuff too
[05:52] <bdmurray> Nah, not yet.  Maybe Feisty+1. ;)
[05:52] <ash211> oh, ok
[05:53] <ash211> that wouldn't be the first time I'm mistaken about something, though!
[05:53] <bdmurray> feisty changes is a busy list to keep track of
[05:54] <ash211> I'm subscribed to the RSS feed in Akregator
[05:54] <ash211> it's a lot easier to just hit the right arrow than mess with email :)
[05:54] <bdmurray> heh, but I have _all_ the e-mails
[05:55] <bdmurray> and can quickly check that I only show up in 2 of them
[05:55] <ash211> looking back, I see I was thinking Ben Collins
[05:56] <ash211> ehh, there's too many people working on Ubuntu to keep up with things!
[05:57] <ash211> I don't think I've ever even sidelined for it!
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90778 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90778
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90780 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed when I clicked the back button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90780
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90782 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90782
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90781 in libbonobo (main) "[apport]  bonobo-activation-server crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90781
[06:58] <crimsun> bdmurray: adding to my bug pile, I see :)
[07:05] <bdmurray> crimsun: not too much I hope
[07:06] <crimsun> :)
[07:08] <bdmurray> Is there anything more I can do to help troubleshooting the issues?
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90783 in evolution (main) "Failed to append to mbox:/home/sammh/.evolution/mail/local#Sent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90783
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90784 in quicksynergy (universe) "quicksynergy crash on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90784
[07:23] <crimsun> bdmurray: which issues? audio ones generally, or...?
[07:24] <bdmurray> audio ones generally, I've seen a few regarding "headphone sense"
[07:24] <crimsun> bdmurray: that really depends on the Ubuntu release
[07:26] <crimsun> bdmurray: I'll be holding an ubuntu-audio team meeting next week (open to the public, of course) to go over such issues. The issue for hp jack sense is that there are inevitable regressions from Dapper/Edgy -> Feisty due to source code being dropped that hasn't been remerged yet. Toby and I are working through that.
[07:27] <crimsun> bdmurray: the above is in reference to hp jack sense for AC'97-based codecs. You can distinguish those in an ``lspci -vn'' output by their 0401 class/ID.
[07:28] <crimsun> bdmurray: OTOH, for HDA-based codecs (identifiable by 0403 class/ID), it's more complicated. HDA support is in great flux currently. The best thing to do for AC'97-based hp jack sense issues is to tag them "AC'97 jack sense", and the HDA ones, "HDA jack sense".
[07:28] <bdmurray> crimsun: okay, maybe e-mail the bugsquad about the meeting if the content is relevant
[07:30] <crimsun> sure, when I hear back from a couple more members of ubuntu-audio, I'll be able to set a meeting time and announce it
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90785 in ubiquity (main) "Crash at end of installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90785
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90786 in Ubuntu "Printing problem with feisty (cups/hp1100)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90786
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90787 in ktorrent (main) "UVFe: KTorrent 2.1.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90787
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90788 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager has incorrect translate strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90788
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90790 in clamtk (universe) "(feisty) ClamTK ver. 2.8 and 2.9 complains that it can not find ClamAV 0.90.1virus definitions " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90790
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90792 in beagle (main) "[apport]  DocExtractor.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90792
[09:57] <dholbach> good morning
[10:00] <thekorn> good morning dholbach
[10:01] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[10:01] <dholbach> hey seb128
[10:01] <thekorn> are you working on bug 90654
[10:01] <dholbach> thekorn: super
[10:01] <dholbach> :-D
[10:02] <seb128> hi dholbach
[10:05] <dholbach> thekorn: about urllib2: we can certainly use and try that for 0.2 - we shouldn't change that for 0.1 though
[10:05] <dholbach> thekorn: what do you think?
[10:07] <thekorn> dholbach: that true, but i dont know how to handle errors in urllib.
[10:08] <thekorn> dholbach: im working on a urllib2 version right now, it works fine so far, get alot of 503 errors from launchpad :-)
[10:08] <dholbach> hehe :)
[10:08] <dholbach> it's a good time for implementing that feature :)
[10:08] <dholbach> thekorn: maybe we can only implement it as good as we can for 0.1 :)
[10:09] <thekorn> dholbach: sounds good
[10:11] <jayteeuk> Morning all.
[10:12] <thekorn> dholbach: btw: when will beta.launchpad.net be released? Is there alot of difference in the HTML-code, do we have to change our RegEx?
[10:13] <dholbach> good question, I don't know
[10:13] <dholbach> maybe we should ask in one of the next launchpad meetings
[10:13] <dholbach> or ask on launchpad-users@ and bughelper@
[10:14] <dholbach> at some stage we should use htmllib or parse the html in libxml and use xpath - I find that way easier :)
[10:14] <dholbach> and more comprehensible :)
[10:14] <thekorn> indeed it is!
[10:15] <dholbach> so we have a lot of interesting 0.2 goals :)
[10:19] <Hobbsee> dholbach: "when it's ready"
[10:20] <dholbach> Hobbsee: hm?
[10:20] <Hobbsee> dholbach: when beta launchpad gets released
[10:21] <dholbach> right :)
[10:26] <Hobbsee> dholbach: voted for kde4 yet?
[10:26] <dholbach> doing so atm
[10:26] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:26] <dholbach> done
[10:26] <Hobbsee> dholbach: you are aware that if it doesnt go into the archives, it'll just go on kubuntu.org anyway?
[10:27] <dholbach> that's irrelevant to my decision - I have no control over third party repositories
[10:29] <dholbach> I think you'll maybe like my decision
[10:31] <seb128> what vote?
[10:32] <Hobbsee> seb128: a general UVFe for kde4 packages - both new and updated, from the kubuntu devs
[10:32] <seb128> ah ok
[10:32] <Hobbsee> (into universe)
[10:32] <seb128> that's late to get crack like that, no?
[10:33] <dholbach> it's the unstable new development branch
[10:33] <dholbach> "technology preview"
[10:33] <seb128> zillions of new kubuntu bugs when they don't cope with the ones they already have
[10:35] <dholbach> point
[10:35] <Hobbsee> seb128: the point is for people not to file bugs on it - it's an out of date snapshot - it's only so that people can run kubuntu and develop for kde4 at the same time (when they freeze libs)
[10:35] <jayteeuk> Reboot required... brb.
[10:36] <Hobbsee> i mean, it's not really going to be *terribly* useful before the library, etc freeze, but after that...
[10:36] <seb128> Hobbsee: you can't package something and ask people to not file bugs then
[10:36] <seb128> that's like "Ubuntu has no quality, we upload crack and doesn't care about what breaks then"
[10:36] <Hobbsee> seb128: i realise that.
[10:37] <Hobbsee> more along the lines of "this is only a snapshot, please file bugs upstream, they may have already been fixed in svn"
[10:37] <seb128> that's about the same
[10:37] <seb128> you ship things without taking responsability for them
[10:38] <Hobbsee> true
[10:54] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll upload a package with your fix in a bit
[10:54] <dholbach> thekorn: I can't push it to LP yet, though
[10:55] <dholbach> (just packaging changes, though)
[10:56] <thekorn> nice dholbach!
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90794 in mythtv (multiverse) "trying to import iconmap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90794
[11:21] <dholbach> thekorn: LP is back online again :-D
[11:21] <dholbach> that's like christmas
[11:21] <thekorn> dholbach: yeaha!
[11:22] <thekorn> dholbach: do it fast, maybe LP is offline soon :)
[11:26] <dholbach> done
[11:29] <thekorn> LOL:    "Launchpad will be going offline for maintenance   very very soon."
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90795 in network-manager (main) "Unmount of remote CIFS shares fails with timeout on system shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90795
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90796 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  bluetooth keyboard/mouse does not work (logitech dinovo laser)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90796
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90797 in Ubuntu "in start of the system this error has appeared" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90797
[12:28] <joumetal> there is some sync requests like bug 90616. Maybe they are making life of motu easier.
[12:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90616 in ibwebadmin "[Sync request]  Sync ibwebadmin (0.98-4) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90616
[12:29] <crimsun> joumetal: yes, that's part of our current workflow
[12:30] <crimsun> it's a bit unfortunate that we have to file bugs, but for accounting, it helps the ubuntu-archive LP team
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90801 in Ubuntu "moving desktop icons on kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90801
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90802 in mail-notification (universe) "crash on the first startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90802
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90803 in ubuntu-meta (main) "evolution cannot be uninstalled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90803
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90804 in rkhunter (universe) "Please sync rkhunter (universe) from unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90804
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90806 in lmms (universe) "System crash after playing a demo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90806
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90805 in epiphany-browser (main) "[apport]  epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90805
[01:23] <kagou> hi
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90807 in winefish (universe) "winefish depends on tetex-bin | latex, should depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90807
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90808 in multisync (universe) "[apport]  multisync crashed with SIGSEGV in sync_main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90808
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90811 in xserver-xgl (universe) ""glxgears -printfps"  Ubuntu Edgy using Beryl -> window resize (max)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90811
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90813 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes after trying to connect to MSN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90813
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90814 in asterisk (universe) "[UPLOAD]  New Asterisk release 1.2.16" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90814
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90815 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Please merge flashplugin-nonfree from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90815
[01:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90810 in hotkey-setup (main) "ThinkPad X60 media keys don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90810
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90817 in drupal (universe) "drupal does not setup correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90817
[01:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90816 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash while opening Channel 9 video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90816
[01:40] <pirast> happy hug day!!!!!!
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90818 in Ubuntu "Volume up/down keys cause loud beep on ThinkPad X60" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90818
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90820 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90820
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90821 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90821
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90822 in php-sqlite3 (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync php-sqlite3 (0.4-4) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90822
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90826 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90826
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90824 in mozilla-thunderbird "Marking non-selected IMAP folder as read doesn't always work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90824
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90825 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90825
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90829 in Ubuntu "alt-shift language switch prevents uppercase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90829
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90827 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90827
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90830 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Headphone autosensing/automuting not working as expected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90830
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90831 in fuse (main) "sshfs sometimes breaks with "statv?fs failed: Transport endpoint is not connected"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90831
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90832 in Ubuntu "default livecd language problems (Russian)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90832
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90833 in update-manager (main) "Some spelling errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90833
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90834 in Ubuntu "livecd lacks traceroute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90834
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90835 in adept (main) "Why not let adept_updater automatically fetch package lists?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90835
[02:36] <dsas> hmm, is LP still broke for everyone else?
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90836 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "System becomes unresponsive during heavy disk I/O" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90836
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90837 in texlive-bin (universe) "Texlive installation fails on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90837
[02:39] <PriceChild> dsas, I'm good
[02:40] <dsas> PriceChild: Hmm, me too now. Odd, it just failed to load two URLs
[02:40] <PriceChild> If ubugtu's still spitting out bugs then its ok :P
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90838 in network-manager (main) "Reports that it doesn't find /bin/awk." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90838
[02:41] <dsas> Heh, I guess.
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90840 in Ubuntu "Cannot use NIC when T60 laptop is docked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90840
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90842 in bzr-gtk (universe) "[apport]  olive-gtk crashed with PathNotChild in relpath()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90842
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90844 in Ubuntu "strange messages on live cd shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90844
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90845 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[apport]  displayconfig-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90845
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90843 in blobwars (universe) "[apport]  blobwars crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90843
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90849 in gltron (universe) "[apport]  gltron crashed with SIGSEGV in SDL_GL_SwapBuffers()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90849
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90852 in git-core (main) "[apport]  git-pack-objects crashed with signal 25 - 2GB file addressing problem?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90852
[03:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90848 in firefox (main) "firefox crashing unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90848
[03:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90850 in earth3d (universe) "[apport]  earth3d crashed with SIGSEGV in viaGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90850
[03:14] <dsas> you'd think people would expect firefox crashes by now...
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90851 in Ubuntu "Firefox does not set KDE wallpaper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90851
[03:29] <bddebian> Boo
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90853 in Ubuntu "HP laser jet 5p not recognized using edgy 6.10." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90853
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90855 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport]  pdbbrowse.py crashed with AttributeError in <module>() (dup-of: 90479)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90855
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90854 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gaim_gtk_blist_get_status_icon()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90854
[03:39] <pochu> heya thekorn :)
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90856 in turbogears (universe) "tg-admin quickstart returned: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ElementTree'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90856
[03:45] <mvo> dholbach_: can bughelper (bugnumbers) do sorting for me?
[03:47] <thekorn> pochu: Hey!
[03:48] <pochu> thekorn: just seen you are working on a web interface for bughelper :)
[03:48] <pochu> hehe
[03:49] <thekorn> pochu: while reading something about urllib I just saw webpy, just wanted to try
[03:50] <pochu> thekorn: testing is funny :-)
[03:50] <thekorn> pochu: it is!
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90857 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90857
[04:01] <joumetal> Is bug 88394 known issue? Any suggestions for right package?
[04:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88394 in Ubuntu "Clock is skiping seconds!!! " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88394
[04:02] <pochu> joumetal: no bug, no?
[04:02] <pochu> joumetal: right click and preferences :)
[04:02] <pochu> joumetal: works here (feisty up-to-date)
[04:03] <joumetal> pochu maybe some laptop specific. It says clock is running too fast. I think it is a bug.
[04:04] <pochu> joumetal: maybe :)
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90858 in watchdog (universe) "[UVF Exception Report]  [SYNC]  watchdog 5.3.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90858
[04:07] <pochu> joumetal: he is running 2.17.91, ask him to update to 2.17.92 :-)
[04:09] <hggdh> joumetal: there was a regression on 2.6.20, up to -8, where you would have to pass no_timer_check, but I thought this was only for AMD64
[04:10] <joumetal> pochu yes I'll do that
[04:10] <Seveas> hggdh, your instructions that you attach on pretty much ever usplash bug are wrong
[04:10] <Seveas> apport-retrace can do all that work by itself
[04:11] <Seveas> besides, *developers* are supposed to do that, not *users*
[04:11] <pochu> joumetal: and change the package to gnome-panel :)
[04:11] <pochu> they can upload the complete crash report :-)
[04:12] <hggdh> Seveas: yes, but the have to have the dbgsym packages available -- which are not by default
[04:12] <Seveas> hggdh, apport-retrace can fetch them
[04:12] <Seveas> but the second part is more important:
[04:13] <Seveas> besides, *developers* are supposed to do that, not *users* <-----
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90861 in mono (main) "Extremely rare mono crash on shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90861
[04:19] <alfmatos> hi, what to do when a bug report eventually surpasses your technical ability/time availability ?
[04:20] <bdmurray> alfmatos: what is the current status of the bug?
[04:20] <bdmurray> i.e. is it needs info or unconfirmed . . .
[04:20] <daviey> alfmatos, Add a comment saying exactly that
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90862 in debconf (main) "adept updater requires a "nice"(?) value" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90862
[04:20] <alfmatos> bdmurray, well it is currently need ifno
[04:21] <bdmurray> alfmatos: Do you think there is enough information gathered for somenoe with enough technical ability to work on it?
[04:21] <daviey> alfmatos, Add a comment, 'I don't know how to get more info" - the triager should help
[04:22] <dholbach> mvo: I don't think it can atm
[04:22] <hggdh> Seveas: I hear you. A theoretical question: what to do if a developer cannot replicate the issue?
[04:23] <Seveas> hggdh, apport-retrace grabs the users trace and applies debug symbols
[04:23] <alfmatos> bdmurray, uhmm ok, i'll ask for a few more things... and then post that comment...
[04:23] <alfmatos> bddebian, thanks
[04:23] <Seveas> so he can simply use the backtrace supplied by apport
[04:23] <alfmatos> bdmurray, thanks
[04:23] <hggdh> Seveas: if you look at the crash reports, of the usplash bugs, you will see none of them have debug symbols
[04:23] <bdmurray> alfmatos: Once there is enough information then you can confirm it and somebody else should look at it.  What bug number is it?
[04:23] <Seveas> hggdh, THEY DON'T NEED TO
[04:24] <Seveas> hggdh, please familiarise yourself with apport and apport-retrace
[04:24] <hggdh> Seveas: roger
[04:24] <pochu> hggdh: you can apport-retrace them, if the crash report contains a coredump :)
[04:24] <hggdh> pochu: yes, I know that. I just do not have any i386 box available
[04:25] <pochu> hggdh: hehe, that is a good point :)
[04:25] <hggdh> Seveas: OK. To whom should I send the bugs then?
[04:25] <pochu> you can use chroots maybe
[04:25] <Seveas> hggdh, the bugs are in launchpad already, no ned to send them anywhere
[04:25] <pochu> s/have/has/
[04:26] <bdmurray> pochu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[04:26] <bdmurray> at the end it talks about setting up a minimal chroot
[04:26] <pochu> bdmurray: ty :)
[04:27] <pochu> bdmurray: any bug for me?
[04:27] <bdmurray> not yet, too early for me
[04:27] <seb128> hggdh: what is the bug?
[04:27] <hggdh> bug 86511
[04:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86511 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86511
[04:27] <hggdh> bug 87449
[04:28] <pochu> bdmurray: hehe
[04:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87449 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in rdw()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87449
[04:28] <hggdh> and about 10 others, all on usplash crashing
[04:28] <mvo> dholbach: I will consider adding it then, might be handy in some situations
[04:28] <pochu> bdmurray: can I have a amd64 chroot on a x86 system?
[04:28] <dholbach> mvo: yeah :)
[04:29] <joumetal> bug 87056 is good report. It's regression in feisty. So if someone like to aswer that it would be nice. I can't.
[04:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87056 in Ubuntu "Can't write to UDF disc in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87056
[04:31] <bdmurray> pochu: I'm not sure.  I think you can go the other way though.
[04:32] <hggdh> Seveas: OK. I will just take myself out of the assigned then. Is this correct procedure?
[04:33] <Seveas> hggdh, you only assign bugs to yourself if you intend to fi them
[04:33] <Seveas> fix*
[04:33] <pochu> Seveas: no, also to provide the neccesary info
[04:34] <pochu> Seveas: if one bug is 'needs info', you should assing it yourself
[04:34] <hggdh> Seveas: OK, but this conflicts with what dbmurray told me
[04:34] <Seveas> no way
[04:34] <Seveas> who changd that?
[04:34] <pochu> Seveas: current policy
[04:34] <Seveas> that's insane...
[04:35] <pochu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#head-65e5a5e189e28e52756baa61c7cd13b0f8121738
[04:37] <seb128> Seveas: you assign bug to yourself when you are working on it, like a Needs Info waiting for a reply
[04:38] <alfmatos> bdmurray, #89141
[04:38] <alfmatos> bdmurray, sorry for lag, work =P
[04:39] <hggdh> ah well. I will reassign them to myself, then
[04:41] <hggdh> seb128: is what I am doing on these usplash bugs correct, or not? I do not want to mess up with the schema here
[04:41] <alfmatos> bug 89141
[04:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89141 in acpi-support "fn f4 key no longer generates suspend with feisty on thinkpad t60" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89141
[04:41] <seb128> hggdh: let me look
[04:43] <seb128> hggdh: you can get a debug backtrace with apport-retrace
[04:43] <seb128> hey dholbach
[04:43] <hggdh> seb128: I know, but I do not have a i386
[04:43] <bdmurray> alfmatos: it looks like the bug should be against g-p-m
[04:43] <seb128> hggdh: let somebody else get one then
[04:44] <seb128> hggdh: what are the bug which need one?
[04:44] <bdmurray> seb128: do we have a needs-retrace tag?
[04:44] <bdmurray> I know the mozilla team does
[04:44] <alfmatos> bdmurray, yep, i'm just waiting on some info from the g-p-m ML to change that
[04:45] <hggdh> bug 90157
[04:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90157 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5 on kdm login" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90157
[04:45] <seb128> bdmurray: I do use "need-amd64-retrace" for desktop bugs
[04:45] <alfmatos> bdmurray, but afterward i think my job is done, hence the question of how do i pass this along
[04:45] <dholbach> we should definitely add the retrace tags to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[04:45] <dholbach> 
[04:46] <bdmurray> alfmatos: it could use a version number for the package too
[04:46] <bdmurray> gpm just has a generic version
[04:46] <seb128> hggdh: reload the bug
[04:47] <thekorn> dholbach, mvo: you thought about adding a sort option to bugnumbers. are you working on that?
[04:47] <alfmatos> bdmurray, ok thanks 2.17.92, i would presume
[04:47] <dholbach> thekorn: not me
[04:48] <bdmurray> alfmatos: right but that is the ubuntu package version
[04:48] <mvo> thekorn: no, not ATM, but it should be easy with the BugInfo class
[04:48] <bdmurray> alfmatos: something like 2.17.92-0ubuntu1
[04:48] <dholbach> we should try to sum up some bughelper features in a SoC project
[04:48] <hggdh> seb128: thanks. Will work on it now
[04:48] <seb128> hggdh: np, let me know if you need retracing for other bugs, I can do them quickly
[04:48] <hggdh> seb128, bdmurray: should we also have a need-i386-retrace also?
[04:49] <thekorn> mvo: if you dont mind, i could work on that now
[04:49] <bdmurray> hggdh: sounds good
[04:49] <mvo> thekorn: sure, certainly! sorting by bugnumer, status and importance would be cool :)
[04:49] <alfmatos> bddebian, ah ok, will ask for that.
[04:50] <bddebian> Gah, I have to change my nick :-)
[04:50] <alfmatos> bdmurray,  ah ok, will ask for that. (darn tab completion :-) )
[04:50] <thekorn> mvo: ok, will try now...
[04:50] <seb128> hggdh: yeah, feel free to use it
[04:51] <hggdh> seb128: bug 90572
[04:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90572 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90572
[04:51] <hggdh> they all see similar, but I am not sure
[04:53] <dholbach> seb128, bdmurray: added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[04:53] <pochu> dholbach: retrace, or need-retrace?
[04:53] <bdmurray> dholbach: what's powerpc?
[04:54] <bdmurray> ;)
[04:54] <dholbach> :-)
[04:54] <dholbach> stuff like sparc, ia64 and hppa :-)
[04:59] <bdmurray> isn't there a list of packages missing desktop icons in the wiki somewhere?
[05:03] <pochu> little question: when I run apport-retrace, some lines have debug symbols, some haven't. Is that because I'm missing some -dbgsym packages?
[05:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90867 in Ubuntu "Jack Control dont start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90867
[05:05] <pochu> for example, retracing a listen crash, I install listen-dbgsym, but do I have to install all the deps -dbgsym?
[05:05] <pochu> or even the build-deps -dbgsym?
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90864 in gpgme1.0 (main) "Debdiff to fix CVE-2007-1263 in feisty and edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90864
[05:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90863 in Ubuntu "Kernel 2.6.20-9 freezes after sum seconds starting gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90863
[05:07] <jayteeuk> pochu: Thank you for calling.  All our operators are currently busy.  Your call is important to us.  Please hold and we will try to connect your call as quickly as possible.
[05:08] <jayteeuk> :-P
[05:08] <pochu> jayteeuk: hehehe :-)
[05:08] <pochu> jayteeuk: I'll wait, I have some music ;)
[05:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90865 in gnome-applets (main) "[Time]  Switching to UNIX time makes gnome-panel crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90865
[05:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90866 in Ubuntu "Fatal error when upgrading to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90866
[05:09] <jayteeuk> It's surely better than "Please press 1 to be re-directed to the menu you just came from...."
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90870 in sim (universe) "SIM-IM crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90870
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90871 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "User must edit xorg.conf in order to modify synaptics settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90871
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90873 in Ubuntu "install screen exceeds display area" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90873
[05:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90869 in language-pack-zh-base (main) ""basename --help" has some error under zh_CN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90869
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90868 in openoffice.org (main) "PDFs from OOo do not have proper appearance" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90868
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90872 in mdadm (main) "Raid array not well created on reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90872
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90874 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "[apport]  jackd crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_cancel()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90874
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90875 in revelation (universe) "[apport]  revelation crashed with ImportError in ?() (dup-of: 79551)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90875
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90876 in libsieve (universe) "[can-not-install]  file overwrite problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90876
[05:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90878 in libwnck (main) "Workspace switcher: tooltip covers up right-click menu" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90878
[05:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90879 in gaim (main) "gaim crashed when IRC server became unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90879
[05:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90880 in nautilus-open-terminal (universe) "open-terminal doesn't create a shell over ssh properly" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90880
[05:49] <bdmurray> it's universe hug day right?
[05:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90881 in istanbul (universe) "[apport]  istanbul crashed with GError in start_recording()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90881
[05:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90882 in Ubuntu "beryl crashes when hint appeared over the animation duration slider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90882
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90883 in ipw2100 (multiverse) "Cannot turn off wireless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90883
[05:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86742 in linux-source-2.6.20 "D-Link AirPlus DWL-G650 Wireless (rev.C) - Atheros AR5212 (rev 01) does not work in Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86742
[05:58] <pirast> bdmurray, yeah
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90884 in mono (main) "mono crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90884
[06:06] <hggdh> seb128: could you please backtrace bug 88915
[06:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88915 in usplash "usplash crashed with signal 5 on reboot after feisti 7.04 update" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88915
[06:07] <seb128> hggdh: done
[06:08] <seb128> looks similar to the previous one
[06:08] <hggdh> seb128: I think all of them are the same, but we got different signals (4, 5, 11), so I want to be sure.
[06:09] <seb128> hggdh: I've retrace bug #90572 also
[06:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90572 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90572
[06:09] <hggdh> seb128: thanks. IOU
[06:10] <bdmurray> seb128: what handles automounting & permissions?
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90885 in Ubuntu "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_check()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90885
[06:10] <seb128> bdmurray: depending of what is mounted
[06:10] <bdmurray> a usb disk?
[06:11] <seb128> hggdh: retrace bug #90489 also
[06:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90489 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90489
[06:11] <seb128> bdmurray: gnome-volume-manager
[06:11] <seb128> bdmurray: if you are using GNOME
[06:12] <seb128> bdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[06:12] <bdmurray> Do you know if something changed with devices being mounted noexec recently?
[06:12] <hggdh> seb128: yes, definitively they are the same thing
[06:13] <seb128> bdmurray: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mount/+bug/87627
[06:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87627 in gnome-mount "removable partitions are mounted noexec by default" [Medium,Fix released] 
[06:13] <seb128> bdmurray: it has been fixed today
[06:15] <bdmurray> seb128: okay, thanks
[06:17] <seb128> bdmurray: np
[06:18] <dholbach> hahahahaha
[06:18] <dholbach> we had bugs tagged as 'borked' or 'broken'
[06:19] <dholbach> b0ng - really :)
[06:19] <seb128> ;)
[06:20] <bdmurray> seb128: Do you know if there is a parallel bug for KDE?
[06:20] <seb128> no idea
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90886 in firefox (main) "lose network connectivity after closing firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90886
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90887 in firestarter (universe) "[apport]  package firestarter failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90887
[06:21] <hggdh> seb128: one more question: from the 11 usplash bugs, we have four that the backtrace fully matches, and the others are mostly on a previous version of usplash (but still seem like the same). How should I go from here? confirm the oldest of the matching set and duplicate the others to it, or confirm the oldest of all and duplicate the 10 others to it?
[06:22] <seb128> hggdh: not sure if there is a rule there
[06:22] <seb128> I usually keep the one with extra details if there is one
[06:22] <seb128> or the first opened otherwise
[06:23] <hggdh> seb128: OK. I will confirm the oldest matching on the traces, and request position from the previous versions (and to verify the same still happens on current version).
[06:23] <seb128> ok
[06:23] <seb128> if you are confident they are the same problem just dup them with a comment saying to undup if they think that's not the same bug
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90888 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in _start()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90888
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90889 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGILL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90889
[06:33] <pochu> hggdh: ^ ;)
[06:34] <hggdh> pochu: sir?
[06:34] <hggdh> pochu: darn!
[06:34] <hggdh> one more to the bag...
[06:35] <hggdh> seb128: could you please backtrace bug 90889
[06:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90889 in usplash "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGILL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90889
[06:35] <hggdh> this will give me the confirmation it is the same thing on the usplash
[06:36] <seb128> hggdh: done
[06:37] <hggdh> seb128: I owe you. Again :-)
[06:37] <seb128> np, thank you for the bug work ;)
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90890 in beagle (main) "HelpIndex crashes on login." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90890
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90892 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in _kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90892
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90891 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes during plugin installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90891
[06:52] <bddebian> Should Bug #65274 be 'Fix Released' ?
[06:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65274 in gnome-hearts "Hearts crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65274
[06:54] <mooey> bddebian, if its fixed in feisty i think so
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90893 in ktorrent (main) "ktorrent crashes when unable to create local torrent file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90893
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90894 in Ubuntu "rhythmbox: last.fm support should include "personal radio" by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90894
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90895 in axyl (universe) "[can-not-install]  postinst fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90895
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90896 in network-manager (main) "Network-Manager misbehaving after recient update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90896
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90897 in anjsp (universe) "[can-not-install]   postinst failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90897
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90898 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[apport]  gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90898
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90899 in linux-source-2.6.20 "rtl8029 nic (ne2k_pci) broken" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90899
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90900 in beryl-settings (universe) "not able to run beryl settings manager, keeps crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90900
[07:21] <mooey> if we don't ship beryl, why is beryl-settings in universe?
[07:22] <pochu> mooey: I think it was uploaded, but it FTBFS
[07:22] <pochu> and they decided not to include it
[07:23] <pochu> mooey: so beryl bugs ---> reject them :)
[07:23] <pochu> (poiting to the upstream tracker of course)
[07:23] <mooey> pochu, i will reject that one, but beryl-manager is installable and works o_O
[07:24] <pochu> mooey: yes, but the crash is because beryl, not because beryl-manager
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90901 in alsa-driver (main) "No Audio for PB Easynote J with SiS SI7012 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90901
[07:27] <mooey> pochu, i've rejected it
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90902 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "prism54: eeprom failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90902
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90904 in evolution (main) "After deleting a memo, focus jumps to a random memo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90904
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90903 in nautilus-sendto (main) "nautilus-sendto does not work with thunderbird" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90903
[07:36] <pochu> hehehe
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90907 in gnome-games (main) "nibbles AI can't handle level 15" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90907
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90905 in libgphoto2 (main) "Should depend on newer udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90905
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90906 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice does not work with thunderbird adressbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90906
[07:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90908 in firefox (main) "Fx 2.0.0.2 crashed on closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90908
[07:48] <bddebian> Anyone else think Bug #28726 could be rejected?
[07:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 28726 in bazaar "hooks can crash baz 1.4.2 on amd64 (and commit hook does)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/28726
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90909 in python-apt (main) "gdebi crashes on missing dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90909
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90910 in Ubuntu "Update-manager fails to upgrade my feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90910
[08:03] <mooey> bddebian, it doesn't make sense to reject it. seems to be a legit bug in software that we ship with a patch attached :-)
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90911 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror Doesn't Use Installed CA Certs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90911
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90912 in Ubuntu "kernel runs hot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90912
[08:07] <mooey> heh
[08:08] <mooey> is the kernel we ship tickless?
[08:16] <pochu> see you!
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90915 in Ubuntu "xserver can't load 'wfb module error' after feisty install. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90915
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90913 in gnupg2 (main) "[UVF exception]  Merging gnupg2 2.0.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90913
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90914 in cryptsetup (universe) "initramfs cryptroot usplash support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90914
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90916 in firefox (main) "Firefox is reported to crash when logging out." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90916
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90917 in Ubuntu "Attempted to open beryl-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90917
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90918 in Ubuntu "When running Desktop Effects it feels like CTRL + ALT is constantly enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90918
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90921 in beagle (main) "[apport]  IndexHelper.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90921
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90919 in fuse (main) "[UVF exception]  Merge fuse 2.6.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90919
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90920 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes while on myspace." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90920
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90922 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "systematic alsa related kernel panic everytime a sound is played (with webcam attached)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90922
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90923 in libbonobo (main) "bonobo-activation-server doesn't exit after logout, prevents panel applets from running on new login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90923
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90926 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90926
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90924 in beagle (main) "[apport]  BuildIndex.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90924
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90925 in Ubuntu "hardware brightness keys on lenovo R60e are working "strange" in gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90925
[09:02] <dholbach> have a nice evening everybody! see you next week!
[09:04] <joumetal> For you too.
[09:04] <dholbach> bye joumetal
[09:05] <thekorn> bye dholbach!
[09:05] <dholbach> bye thekorn
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90929 in penguintv (universe) "[apport]  PenguinTV crashed with TypeError in isdir()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90929
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90928 in unattended-upgrades (main) "[apport]  unattended-upgrade crashed with SystemError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90928
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90931 in slab (universe) "claims my hard drive has 0b free and 0b total" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90931
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90932 in ldap2dns (universe) "[can-not-install]   postinst failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90932
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90930 in irm (universe) "[can-not-install]   postinst failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90930
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90934 in nautilus (main) "[apport]  nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90934
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90935 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90935
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90936 in Ubuntu "When shuting down, sometimes feisty reboots" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90936
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90933 in libapache-mod-text2html (universe) "[can-not-install]   postinst failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90933
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90937 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90937
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90938 in missingpy (universe) "[can-not-install]  postinst failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90938
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90939 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "gtkpod-aac needs rebuild against libgpod1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90939
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90940 in gimp (main) "[apport]  gimp-2.2 crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_file_info_get_is_folder()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90940
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90941 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in assemble() (dup-of: 83931)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90941
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90942 in linux-source-2.6.20 "hibernate does not work on Compaq X1000 Laptop" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90942
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90944 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90944
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90945 in Ubuntu "Emerald crash. not sure what i did" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90945
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90947 in firefox (main) "firefox should be 32bit even on 64bit enabled OS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90947
[09:52] <jle> Er, hi. Can one ask for help in the specifics of bug reporting here or is it strictly for talks between bugsquadlings?
[09:55] <sacater> jle: bug reporting and bug zapping :P
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90949 in Ubuntu ""no root file system is defined" at install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90949
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90950 in Ubuntu "windows unable to access samba" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90950
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90948 in ubiquity (main) "RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code -11; see /var/log/installer/syslog and /var/log/syslog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90948
[09:59] <jle> sacater: Eeexcellent. Is it considered a bug when using Herd 5 and the regular installation option, not the safe graphics mode one, freezes at around the point it should be booting X?
[09:59] <sacater> jle: sort of, though it may be better mentioning in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90951 in Ubuntu "Desktop Effects crashes in VNC session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90951
[10:01] <jle> sacater: Right, thanks. It's a laptop admittedly, which as far as I know isn't great for full compatibility.
[10:01] <sacater> jle: true :P
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90952 in ubiquity (main) "RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code -11; see /var/log/installer/syslog and /var/log/syslog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90952
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90953 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (main) "sis651 vga problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90953
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90954 in Ubuntu "Marking a bug as a duplicate of another causes subscribers to be subscribed to all duplicates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90954
[10:12] <mooey> jle: that is certainly a bug, can you please file one in launchpad?
[10:14] <jle> mooey: Certainly.
[10:14] <bdmurray> jle: there is some additional information that would help in your bug report though
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90957 in wine (universe) "[apport]  wine-preloader crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90957
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90958 in python2.5 (main) "tarfile.py do not deal well with trailing slash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90958
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90959 in Ubuntu "gaim version 2.0.0beta6  in fiesty herd 5 doesnt auto login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90959
[10:16] <jle> bdmurray: Okay. What kind of extra information should I provide? I'm a newbie at this I'm afraid.
[10:16] <bdmurray> jle: no worries, that is what we are here for
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90955 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn Hotkeys on ThinkPad + Generals on Thinkpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90955
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90956 in kdebase (main) "system tray error when launching two applications at the same time with 'place in system tray' option -  kde panel 3.5.5 (with kde 3.5.5) kubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90956
[10:17] <bdmurray> jle: you can get it to boot right? using the safe graphics mode?
[10:18] <jle> bdmurray: Yes. I have not tried installing it yet but it certainly boots into X in safe graphics mode.
[10:19] <bdmurray> jle: So in safe graphics mode in a terminal collect the output of 'lspci -vv' and 'lspci -vvn' and add it to your bug report.
[10:21] <jle> bdmurray: Will do. Anything else I should note? The one other thing I can think of is that the 6.06 CD seems to give a similar problem.
[10:22] <mooey> there are some other items it would be helpful to attach, overed on the DebuggingXAutoconfguration wiki page
[10:22] <mooey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration - under number 5
[10:23] <jle> Thank you. I'll go boot it up then.
[10:24] <bdmurray> jle: great, let us know if you need any help getting that info
[10:33] <chantra> hi there
[10:34] <chantra> I just had a check at the new launchpad tags. For bitesize, what do we have to do once a debdiff fixing the bug is added?
[10:38] <mooey> chantra: if the package is in main (or restricted / multiverse?), subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors to the bug, if it is in universe subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors and somebody with upload permission will see it
[10:41] <chantra> mooey: thanks a million
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90961 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "UVF Exception - ATI fglrx 8.34.8 binary driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90961
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90962 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "oops in printk, ide_setup_pci_noise, modprobe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90962
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90963 in evolution (main) "evolution doesn't build, dependencies problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90963
[10:41] <chantra> gonna do this right away
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90964 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "thunderbird crashes when tries connect to server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90964
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90965 in openoffice.org (main) "Please update ooo-build translations (once more)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90965
[10:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90960 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgAcqArchive::pkgAcqArchive() [connected to via SSH and Cygwin/X] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90960
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90966 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90966
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90967 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "CVE-2007-0774: overflow in URI handler" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90967
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90968 in gaim (main) "Gaim Dbus Plugin Does Not Load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90968
[10:57] <jle> bdmurray: Hi again. The package that the bug is associated with would be xorg, yes?
[10:57] <bdmurray> maybe
[10:57] <bdmurray> use that for now and I'll take a peek at it, just give me the bug number
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90971 in firefox (main) "firefox stop working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90971
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90970 in ubiquity (main) "Fluxbuntu Install break" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90970
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90972 in epiphany (universe) "Epiphany's default font size is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90972
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90973 in Ubuntu "Add/Remove applications bad usability" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90973
[11:06] <jle> bdmurray: Almost finished. What's the standard procedure for attaching outputs? From other reports I've seen comments that link to them, but I don't know if there's some standard repository for the text files.
[11:08] <bdmurray> in the initial description you can not add attachments so click enter then add comments and attachements
[11:09] <jle> Ah, I see. Thanks. Bug number is 90976, just adding the various outputs.
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90974 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "incorrect documentation in properties section of 'nvidia-glx'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90974
[11:17] <jle> bdmurray: I think that's all of them commented in.
[11:20] <bdmurray> jle: cool, there should be enough there
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90975 in festival (main) "Festival Gaim crashed when somone sent me a message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90975
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90977 in Ubuntu "Can't apt-get libsexy with Update Manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90977
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90978 in libgphoto2 (main) "udev rules break usb printers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90978
[11:21] <bdmurray> jle: thanks for gathering all of that
[11:22] <bdmurray> what is libsexy?
[11:23] <jle> bdmurray: Thanks for bearing with me. It was kind of fun, really.
[11:23] <yuriy> gah. who the heck is this person: bug 86094
[11:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86094 in kaffeine "forward/back do not work reliably" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86094
[11:25] <bdmurray> jle: That's good.  If you want to have more fun you should help out with bug triage.
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90976 in xorg (main) "X fails to boot in regular installation of Herd 5" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90976
[11:28] <jle> bdmurray: There's an idea. I'm reading up on that in the wiki.
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90979 in xosview (universe) "Please sync xosview (universe) from unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90979
[11:39] <alfmatos> what are the changes of an UVF exception on main right now ? =)
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90980 in Ubuntu "synaptic doesn't launch with sudo privilege" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90980
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90981 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "saa7127 is no longer shipped with kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90981
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90982 in debconf (main) "tried to use adept update got it crashing therefore I made the update via apt-get[apport]  dpkg-preconfigure crashed with SIGSEGV in xcall_QGroupBox()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90982
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90984 in checkgmail (universe) "Garbage characters/not starting when selecting French language (and others)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90984