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| infinity | Riddell: Fixed. | 12:51 |
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| Riddell | infinity: what was up? | 12:52 |
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| infinity | Riddell: A bit of a hiccup on drescher, s'all. | 01:08 |
| geser | infinity: Hi. Any progress on the HASH bug in the buildds? | 01:13 |
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| geser | keescook: gnupg2 2.0.3 was released today (primarly including a patch for the gnupg security problem). I've already new packages ready. | 01:30 |
| geser | Should I try to get an UVF exception for it? | 01:30 |
| keescook | geser: yeah, go for it. | 01:32 |
| keescook | I need to do the gnupg2 backports still, but it's currently a lower priority than other stuff | 01:33 |
| geser | the security announcement also provides a patch for gpgme 1.1.3 | 01:36 |
| geser | but we still have gpgme 0.3.16 (first uploaded to warty) :( | 01:36 |
| keescook | geser: there's also gpgme1.0 | 01:37 |
| geser | that would explain why it's so old :) | 01:37 |
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| sistpoty | tfheen: How many packages would fall under | 01:44 |
| sistpoty | tfheen: sorry, wrong question... copy/paste error... just wanted to ping you about binary only removals, thx | 01:45 |
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| sistpoty | tfheen: as in if ubuntu-archive came to a decision already | 01:46 |
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| alex-weej | elkbuntu: have you considered openid for ubuntucounter? :P | 04:36 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, anyone knows what has changed from Edgy to Feisty regarding virtual console (keymap,translations,...) ? | 05:15 |
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| jdong | anyone have experience with the Python bugtracker? | 06:15 |
| jdong | I found a typo in Python.... | 06:15 |
| jdong | >>> (1-24j)**34324324 | 06:15 |
| jdong | OverflowError: complex exponentiaion | 06:15 |
| jdong | it seems to have survived from python2.3 to 2.5, at least | 06:16 |
| Chipzz | what's wrong with that? | 06:22 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | "exponentiaion" | 06:24 |
| jdong | Chipzz: are you a Python developer by any chance? ;-) | 06:25 |
| Chipzz | jdong: no, not at all :) | 06:26 |
| Chipzz | jdong: I was looking at the code instead of the line below ;) | 06:27 |
| jdong | hehe | 06:27 |
| Chipzz | silly me :P | 06:27 |
| jdong | found it while... err... traversing a polynomial for a real solution | 06:27 |
| jdong | (and of course it didn't have any) | 06:28 |
| Chipzz | brute-force attack? :) | 06:28 |
| jdong | of course :) | 06:28 |
| jdong | we got an e-mail a week and a half ago stating that spawning mathematica/matlab is not an acceptable algorithm anymore | 06:28 |
| jdong | the "anymore" part concerned me :D | 06:28 |
| Chipzz | heh | 06:29 |
| Chipzz | you really don't want to program in matlab anyway :P | 06:29 |
| jdong | I know, but when your assignment is to write an arbitrary matrix inverter, it's tempting. | 06:29 |
| jdong | especially since you know the validator has mathematica and matlab installed.... | 06:30 |
| Chipzz | from the little experience I have with matlab, it looks impossible to create a clean solution to certain problems | 06:30 |
| jdong | it's ok but not fantastic | 06:30 |
| jdong | simulink is cool though | 06:30 |
| jdong | realtime workshop.... click button and C code comes out | 06:30 |
| Chipzz | the lack of any kind of references sucks monkey balls | 06:30 |
| jdong | it's not that kind of programming language, lol | 06:31 |
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| Chipzz | the problem I once had was a large matrix, and I needed to call a function which changed it quite a lot of times | 06:32 |
| jdong | ah | 06:33 |
| jdong | yeah then performance will blow | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | the solution to that is to give the matrix as a parameter, and return a copy of the modified version | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | yeah | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | it copies it every time | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | so | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | it was either that | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | or use a global variable | 06:33 |
| Chipzz | both solutions suck :P | 06:33 |
| jdong | well you're supposed to cave into global variable peer pressure | 06:34 |
| Chipzz | a reference type would have helped there | 06:34 |
| jdong | no. bad compiz. do that again and beryl's going back on. | 06:35 |
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| Fujitsu | jdong: I've only ever had that issue with Beryl. | 06:36 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: really? | 06:36 |
| jdong | compiz is doing that to me like every 1 of 10 times I maximize a terminal | 06:37 |
| jdong | with other maximized apps in the background | 06:37 |
| jdong | it simply wiggles forever | 06:37 |
| jdong | it's very annoying when trying to type into it | 06:37 |
| Fujitsu | Hah. | 06:37 |
| jdong | it's like giving a directional derivatives lecture to a room of people with ADD. | 06:37 |
| Fujitsu | A couple of weeks back, I made the mistake of shrinking a window slightly vertically. | 06:37 |
| Fujitsu | It proceeded to bounce between the two ends for eternity. | 06:38 |
| jdong | "now you... you take the gradient.... the grad.. HEY SIT DOWN. STOP JUMPING" | 06:38 |
| jdong | ha, we should have a silly beryl tricks contest :) | 06:38 |
| jdong | submission #1: Compiz: | 06:39 |
| jdong | http://web.mit.edu/~jdong/www/wobble.ogg | 06:39 |
| jdong | got 3 windows to wobble indefinitely | 06:39 |
| jdong | and for some reason firefox started bouncing a bit too | 06:39 |
| Fujitsu | Nice, jdong. | 06:39 |
| jdong | :) | 06:40 |
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| jdong | bug 54776 was pretty good.... despite it was a dupe :( | 06:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54776 in openoffice.org "font hinting does not work with libfreetype6 v. 2.2.1" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54776 | 06:42 |
| jdong | umm | 06:42 |
| jdong | bug 90636 | 06:42 |
| jdong | rather :) | 06:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90636 in openoffice.org "Openoffice fonts aren't blurry enough (dup-of: 54776)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90636 | 06:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54776 in openoffice.org "font hinting does not work with libfreetype6 v. 2.2.1" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54776 | 06:42 |
| jdong | oh for the love of libpthread, come up you stupid mailserver :( | 06:47 |
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| jdong | Hobbsee: waah, make it work... poke my mailserver with your long pointy stick | 06:50 |
| === Hobbsee pokes the mailserver with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| jdong | yay! | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: what's it doing? | 06:51 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: well apparently it's been fscking for the past 30 hours | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | That's NOTHING. | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | snapshot.debian.net was fscking for a couple of months, I believe. | 06:52 |
| jdong | well... I was supposed to be getting 2 homework assignemnts thru e-mail | 06:52 |
| jdong | due tomorrow | 06:52 |
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| jdong | and it's 1AM :( | 06:52 |
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| jdong | Fujitsu: well, I shall see how long the mailserver takes.... apparently they've given up on fsck and are mounting it ro and copying everything onto a new RAID | 06:53 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 08:08 |
| tepsipakki | Morgen pitti :) | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | hi pitti | 08:10 |
| === pitti hugs tepsipakki and ajmitch | ||
| tepsipakki | pitti: seems that I forgot to create the series-file for quilt in libxcb, crimsun fixed it | 08:11 |
| pitti | tepsipakki: ah, toss me a debdiff, then I'll upload | 08:11 |
| tepsipakki | it's uploaded already, -1ubuntu2 | 08:12 |
| === Hobbsee hugs pitti | ||
| === fabbione wonders who did pull in libglade2/3 in main | ||
| fabbione | glide even | 08:15 |
| fabbione | installing those libraries is a moot point without a bunch of other stuff includeing the 3dfx kernel module | 08:16 |
| fabbione | and they ask questions at install time that needs to be preseeded with sane defaults to be of any use | 08:17 |
| fabbione | otherwise default install will suck | 08:17 |
| fabbione | they were left out for a veeeeery good reason | 08:17 |
| fabbione | tepsipakki: anyway you are doing a really good job up till now.. i am impressed | 08:18 |
| tepsipakki | fabbione: thanks ;) | 08:22 |
| tepsipakki | fabbione: libglide2/3 are in main? Seem to be in universe here.. | 08:23 |
| pitti | fabbione: how do you mean? glide source and binaries are in universe | 08:23 |
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| fabbione | pitti: they have been pulled in by this morning update... might be a depends: change.. | 08:37 |
| fabbione | tepsipakki: ^^ | 08:37 |
| fabbione | this damn developers that needs stuff from universe.. | 08:38 |
| _ion | Hi pitti | 08:39 |
| _ion | Did you get my email? | 08:39 |
| pitti | fabbione: right, but there's no MIR, thus noone promotes it; it's just a broken Dependency then, I guess | 08:39 |
| pitti | _ion: yup, saw it, thank you! will merge and answer you | 08:40 |
| fabbione | pitti: ok :) | 08:40 |
| _ion | pitti: If you use bzr merge --pull, it will probably just pull the change, unless the branches have diverged, btw. | 08:40 |
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| pitti | _ion: right, or just 'bzr pull' :) | 08:42 |
| _ion | Yeah, that works if one already knows they haven't diverged. :-) | 08:43 |
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| pitti | argh, no LP | 08:59 |
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| === pitti throws the archive admin hat back into the corner then | ||
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| _ion | Hey, that's offensive! You must surely mean the Caucasian Intelligence Officer. | 09:12 |
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| slomo_ | tepsipakki: just curious but won't the xcb patch lead to apps deadlocking instead of aborting them? | 09:31 |
| tepsipakki | no, it will ignore the locking check altogether | 09:32 |
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| slomo_ | tepsipakki: hmm... but isn't this assertion done just before locking (or unlocking) to prevent a deadlock? i don't see how that patch could do something good ;) | 09:36 |
| tepsipakki | the links are there for reference, pitti just reversed the logic ;) | 09:37 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: ok... do we have the mesa patch btw? and the locking issue in gtk was fixed some hours ago fortunately :) | 09:40 |
| tepsipakki | oh, do you have the link to the gtk-fix? | 09:41 |
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| tepsipakki | what was that mesa patch again? | 09:42 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gtk%2B/trunk/gdk/x11/gdkasync.c?r1=17436&r2=17435&pathrev=17436 | 09:42 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: i wanted to ask seb128 if he can include it with his next upload later | 09:42 |
| pitti | mvo: do you know a bit about python-notify? pynotify.defs has attach_to_status_icon(), but the .so doesn't | 09:43 |
| pitti | mvo: and I actually need this for restricted-manager | 09:43 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8521 | 09:43 |
| Ubugtu | Freedesktop bug 8521 in GLX "AllocAndFetchScreenConfigs unlocks twice" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 09:43 |
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| tepsipakki | slomo_: you wanted that for dapper/edgy? | 09:45 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: hm? no | 09:46 |
| slomo_ | tepsipakki: i only wanted to know if we have this patch in feisty ;;) | 09:46 |
| tepsipakki | that's in mesa-6.5.2 | 09:46 |
| tepsipakki | which is in feisty | 09:46 |
| slomo_ | perfect | 09:46 |
| mvo | pitti: I haven't used that yet, but what about attach_to_widget? | 09:50 |
| pitti | mvo: a gtk.StatusIcon is not a widget | 09:51 |
| mvo | pitti: righ, you could just pack it into a eventbox to get a widget | 09:51 |
| pitti | mvo: yup, but how do I add the statusicon into it? | 09:52 |
| pitti | mvo: I think for precisely this problem libnotify has an attach_to_status_icon() :) | 09:53 |
| pitti | just the Python binding seems to be missing | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | pitti: some of the language-pack bits in http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/possible-conflicts/feisty/main.txt look like they just need extra Replaces | 09:53 |
| doko_ | pitti: I'm done with the uploads | 09:53 |
| pitti | doko_: yay, thanks | 09:53 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, thanks; those are probably the ones that have never been updated since I added the misssing replaces | 09:54 |
| cjwatson | ok | 09:55 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:57 |
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| seb128 | morning | 10:03 |
| seb128 | pitti: I've started to look at the KDE packages waiting to NEW yesterday and I've questions about them | 10:04 |
| pitti | urgh, NEW? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | does debian/copyright needs to list the copyright holders? | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, it does | 10:05 |
| seb128 | pitti: yeah, you know, where new source packages go | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, you mean for feisty, not for the edgy-proposed thing | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, wrong mental context :) | 10:05 |
| seb128 | np ;) | 10:05 |
| seb128 | k, because they don't | 10:05 |
| seb128 | another weird thing is | 10:06 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, simple bug, pynotify.c is not regenerated properly | 10:06 |
| mvo | aha | 10:06 |
| seb128 | k, can't get it from NEW, will look later | 10:08 |
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| pitti | wow, Riddell grew another 'l' :) | 10:54 |
| pitti | tepsipakki, mvo: so, can you please have a look at http://pastebin.ca/387387 if it looks sane for fglrx? | 10:56 |
| mpt | pitti, http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.quality/browse_thread/thread/9d42950d1147e8ed | 11:02 |
| mpt | (don't know whether you're interested) | 11:02 |
| pitti | mpt: indeed I am, and I saw it this morning; unfortunately I'm at a concert tonight, but I'll join the next meeting | 11:03 |
| tepsipakki | pitti: looks good | 11:04 |
| cjwatson | mpt: are you going to be listening in? | 11:04 |
| cjwatson | if nobody else can, I might, although the timing isn't good for me either | 11:05 |
| mvo | pitti: looks good | 11:05 |
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| pitti | tepsipakki, mvo: thanks | 11:05 |
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| mpt | cjwatson, sorry, I'll be busy being a weekend tourist guide | 11:16 |
| mpt | (and I probably couldn't contribute/understand much anyway, I iz just a UI designah) | 11:17 |
| dholbach | Riddell: I just uploaded a new example-content and did some small changes - if you want to update Kubuntu related changes, I added the branch URL in XS-Vcs-Bzr | 11:23 |
| dholbach | Riddell: or if you know somebody who'd like to do that (maybe kwwii?) | 11:24 |
| mpt | cjwatson, if you attend, be aware that Benjamin Smedberg's PT-to-UTC conversion isn't accurate | 11:24 |
| kwwii | dholbach: did a lot change? | 11:25 |
| dholbach | kwwii: no, I merely changed some occurences of 6.06 and 6.10 | 11:25 |
| dholbach | kwwii: I just saw that the Kubuntu presentation has "Add Image Here" in it and still mentions powerpc | 11:26 |
| dholbach | kwwii: and it's 3 times as big as the ubuntu one :) | 11:26 |
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| kwwii | dholbach: I'll look into that | 11:30 |
| dholbach | kwwii: super | 11:31 |
| Seveas | beta.lp sure is oopsing a LOT | 11:32 |
| Fujitsu | Seveas: every 3rd HTTP request or so, it seems. | 11:35 |
| mpt | beta's working again? | 11:38 |
| pitti | hm, I had two 'oops -- no css -- looks normal' cycles now | 11:38 |
| mpt | ah, thanks for the notification Seveas :-) | 11:38 |
| mpt | pitti, the technical term for that is FOUC | 11:39 |
| mpt | Flash Of Unstyled Content | 11:39 |
| pitti | mpt: but certainly not for the oopses :) | 11:39 |
| mpt | The non-technical term is "Style sheet, I've waited too long for you to arrive, so I'm going to draw the page anyway" | 11:39 |
| mpt | True, not for the oopses | 11:40 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: No, it's style-sheet, I got an OOPS page in return, so it's not valid, so I'm not going to render you. | 11:40 |
| mpt | Top Men are working on those | 11:40 |
| mpt | Fujitsu, I find it very difficult to believe that the style sheet would return an OOPS | 11:41 |
| mpt | we don't do any database queries for the style sheet :-) | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | It did. | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | Try it. | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | Refresh a few times. | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | You'll get one (/+icing/style.css, for example) | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | mpt: heh, good point | 11:42 |
| Fujitsu | You get a nice beta-styled oops. | 11:42 |
| mpt | WOW | 11:42 |
| Fujitsu | Or I've somehow managed to insert OOPS-433BD703 into the magical database. | 11:43 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 11:43 |
| mpt | I was going to say "Loaded it ten times, no oopses" | 11:43 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Hah. | 11:43 |
| Hobbsee | even mpt is suprised about LP - scary! | 11:43 |
| mpt | but then it oopsed at the bottom of the ninth | 11:43 |
| mpt | with bases loaded | 11:43 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Any idea what's happening!? | 11:43 |
| Seveas | all your launchpad are belong to OOPS | 11:43 |
| Fujitsu | Surely there's no DB-foo behind it... | 11:43 |
| mpt | Fujitsu, I said Top Men are working on it | 11:43 |
| pitti | "Launchpad will be going offline for maintenance very very soon." | 11:43 |
| mpt | Honestly, do I look like a Top Man? | 11:43 |
| pitti | hmm, I thought it just came back? | 11:43 |
| Seveas | mpt, yes | 11:44 |
| mpt | I don't even have any muscles. | 11:44 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Ah, didn't see that. | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: it did. it decided it didnt like life, so is in hiding again. | 11:44 |
| Seveas | Hobbsee, lp has a marvin attitude? | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: seems so... | 11:44 |
| TheMuso | Lp. DOn't talk to me about lp. | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 11:45 |
| Seveas | I think you ought to know, I'm feeling very OOPS'ed | 11:45 |
| TheMuso | lol | 11:46 |
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| imbrandon | OOPS has taken the BSOD top spot ;) | 11:50 |
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| Riddell | pitti: I screwed up again, the python-kde package is missing the necessary new function and a symlink | 11:53 |
| Riddell | pitti: which is all very annoying, it's not like I didn't test this stuff three times | 11:54 |
| Riddell | pitti: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/pykde.debdiff | 11:54 |
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| Riddell | pitti: and http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/adept.debdiff | 12:00 |
| pitti | Riddell: looks fine | 12:05 |
| pitti | Riddell: not sure whether uploads will work, though, but just try :) | 12:06 |
| Riddell | mm, but it looked fine last time. grump | 12:06 |
| Riddell | thanks | 12:06 |
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| Keybuk | heyhey | 12:08 |
| Fujitsu | Hi Keybuk. | 12:08 |
| === Hobbsee waves to Keybuk too, and drops an anvil on pitti's head | ||
| pitti | ouch | 12:09 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: how did I earn that? | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: the lack of greeting from earlier :P | 12:09 |
| seb128 | Riddell: your new KDE4 packages have no copyright holders listed to debian/copyright | 12:09 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: *big hug* | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: :D *big hug back* | 12:10 |
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| seb128 | kde4multimedia has files under the LGPL, it doesn't ship a copy of the text though | 12:10 |
| seb128 | that is weird | 12:11 |
| seb128 | " * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or | 12:11 |
| seb128 | * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public | 12:11 |
| seb128 | * License version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation. | 12:11 |
| seb128 | ... | 12:11 |
| seb128 | * You should have received a copy of the GNU Library General Public License | 12:11 |
| seb128 | * along with this library; see the file COPYING.LIB. If not, write to | 12:11 |
| seb128 | * the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor," | 12:11 |
| seb128 | 12:11 | |
| seb128 | is that normal to have file under the GPL with an indication of where to get the LGPL? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | seb128: it's the same copying file as in the KDE 3 package | 12:12 |
| Riddell | which probably hasn't changed much since KDE 0.1 | 12:12 |
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| pitti | seb128: the 'a little bit more than lesser GPL'? | 12:12 |
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| seb128 | pitti: no, just wondering why it says the file is "under the terms of the GNU General Public" and mentions the "GNU Library General Public License" then | 12:13 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I noticed | 12:14 |
| seb128 | that's from kdeadmin | 12:14 |
| Riddell | oh joy I think I've deleted all the kde4* packages from my local hard disk | 12:16 |
| Riddell | seb128: if you reject them can you put the sources somewhere I can get at them? | 12:16 |
| seb128 | Riddell: I'm not going to reject them, I'm not comfortable enough on source NEW yet, I'll let tfheen or pitti do them | 12:17 |
| seb128 | Riddell: I think you have to ship at least the LGPL text with the package | 12:17 |
| pitti | seb128: if debian/copyright does not have copyright holders, and the upstream license is wrong, then they need to be rejected | 12:18 |
| seb128 | dunno if debian/copyright has to list the copyright holders, they don't | 12:18 |
| Riddell | or point to it in common licences | 12:18 |
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| pitti | Riddell: no | 12:18 |
| Riddell | but it's no worse than what's in the current KDE 3 packages in debian and ubuntu | 12:18 |
| pitti | Riddell: pointer is good for debian/copyright, but *not* for orig.tar.gz's | 12:18 |
| Riddell | pitti: why not? | 12:18 |
| seb128 | and dunno if source mentionning the GPL and then the LGPL is a problem to fix | 12:18 |
| Riddell | oh, I see | 12:18 |
| Riddell | seb128: can you put the sources somewhere I can get at them? | 12:19 |
| pitti | seb128: it's ok to license some parts as lgpl and some as gpl, but upstream's files have to tell which license applies in the file headers, and debian/copyright needs to list the various parts | 12:19 |
| seb128 | pitti: could you have a look to kdeadmin, kuser/ku_usermodel.cpp for example? | 12:21 |
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| seb128 | and let me know if you think it's correct | 12:21 |
| pitti | seb128: fetching | 12:21 |
| seb128 | Riddell: will do | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: was supposed to be more fixed, too | 12:23 |
| pitti | seb128: looks fine to me, what's wrong wit it? | 12:23 |
| seb128 | pitti: k, I was not sure about the file being GPL and then pointing to LGPL and COPYING.LIB (which is not shipped with the tarball) | 12:24 |
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| pitti | Riddell: d/copyright also needs to point out which parts are under the docbook license | 12:24 |
| pitti | seb128: it's certainly weird that it's COPYING.LIB, and not COPYING; so if COPYING.LIB is the GPL, that's fine | 12:24 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, indeed that doesn't exist. that's wrong then | 12:25 |
| seb128 | pitti: well, it's written "You should have received a copy of the GNU Library General Public License" | 12:25 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, you are right | 12:25 |
| pitti | this is completely screwed up then | 12:25 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, I didn't read hard enough | 12:25 |
| seb128 | np | 12:26 |
| seb128 | pitti: since it's your archive day I'll let you reject the uploads if that's ok with you. Could you also copy them on chinstrap or somewhere for Riddell? | 12:27 |
| pitti | seb128: sure | 12:27 |
| seb128 | thank you | 12:27 |
| Riddell | pitti, seb128: by the way I care less about KDE 4 today than about libkexiv getting through NEW | 12:29 |
| pitti | Riddell: trying, depends on how much lp loves me | 12:29 |
| seb128 | Riddell: ah, I though tfheen was going to do it since he said it was ok during the meeting | 12:30 |
| pitti | Riddell: I guess you want it in main; is there a MIR or is it a code splitout? | 12:31 |
| Riddell | pitti: it's code that has been split out of the previous version of digikam | 12:32 |
| pitti | Riddell: ah, so main | 12:32 |
| Riddell | yes please | 12:32 |
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| pitti | Riddell: libkexiv2 source-NEWed | 12:35 |
| Riddell | pitti: thanks | 12:35 |
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| pitti | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/kde4/ | 12:36 |
| pitti | Riddell: I'll reject kde4network then, do you need another mail or is above IRC discussion enough? | 12:36 |
| pitti | Riddell: erm, s/network/admin/ | 12:37 |
| pitti | seb128: did you already check the other kde packages, too? | 12:37 |
| seb128 | pitti: admin and multimedia | 12:38 |
| seb128 | not the others | 12:38 |
| pitti | seb128: mm had the same problem or was ok? | 12:39 |
| seb128 | is has problems | 12:39 |
| seb128 | at least not shipping the LGPL text and no copyright holder | 12:39 |
| Riddell | seb128: no copyright holder where? | 12:40 |
| Riddell | pitti: irc is fine | 12:41 |
| pitti | Riddell: debian/copyright has no copyrights | 12:42 |
| StevenK | seb128: Have you seen an issue with Edgy where icons for the Games don't show up in the menu and the update-notifier icon doesn't display either? | 12:42 |
| Riddell | hmm, right | 12:43 |
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| seb128 | StevenK: no, looks like an outdated cache | 12:44 |
| seb128 | brb | 12:45 |
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| pitti | Riddell: kde4edu is hte same problem: missing COPYING.LIB and no copyright in debian/copyright; | 12:54 |
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| Riddell | pitti: ok | 12:56 |
| Riddell | I'll need to fix this all upstream | 12:57 |
| Riddell | which is not a-typical of KDE | 12:57 |
| pitti | right, probably the other sources have a similar problem | 12:57 |
| Riddell | pitti: adept and pykde seem to be accepted into edgy-proposed ready for approval | 12:58 |
| pitti | Riddell: done | 12:58 |
| StevenK | seb128: Your cache answer was spot-on, thanks. | 01:00 |
| seb128 | StevenK: np | 01:00 |
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| pitti | Riddell: which package provides kde-config? I need to rebuild skim for the Maintainer: change | 01:02 |
| supervillain | hello, is apt-proxy secure? can I trust an apt-proxy server? | 01:03 |
| Riddell | pitti: kdelibs4c2a | 01:03 |
| pitti | urgh, 20 MB deps just to rebuild a source package :/ | 01:04 |
| seb128 | pitti: don't build it, just debuild -S and upload ;) | 01:04 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but even that needs kde-config, scons, and everything | 01:04 |
| seb128 | ah | 01:05 |
| Riddell | debuild -S shouldn't, only scons and cdbs | 01:05 |
| pitti | Riddell: scons -c is called in clean, that needs all the stuff | 01:06 |
| Riddell | ah well, I guess there's a reason KDE dropped scons :) | 01:06 |
| pitti | Checking for the qt library : qt was not found | 01:06 |
| pitti | grr | 01:07 |
| pitti | I have libqt3-mt-dev | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | supervillain: ask the guys that wrote it? | 01:08 |
| tepsipakki | tfheen: did you see that sync-request about discover-data? | 01:08 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: I just noticed that libgucharmap is NBS in feisty (gucharmap builds soname 6 now); do these packages need to be removed manually, or will you do it in a big wave at some point? | 01:28 |
| cjwatson | pitti: archive-cruft-check scans for that; feel free to remove stuff in there after a cursory check | 01:29 |
| cjwatson | (remove-package.py -m '(pitti) NBS' -b foo bar baz) | 01:29 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: right, I checked rdepends in this case, I just wondered whether there was some automagic script for it | 01:29 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I generally give things at least a few days before removing them to make transitions less painful | 01:30 |
| cjwatson | pitti: archive-cruft-check for finding them, but nothing automatic for removing them | 01:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I think this one has been around for at least two weeks | 01:30 |
| cjwatson | erm, archive-cruft-check -n too, IIRC | 01:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, I see; alright, I'll clean up a little | 01:30 |
| cjwatson | I usually do archive-cruft-check -n | sed 's/,//g' to make it easier to paste bits of the output | 01:30 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: is there anything we need to do about the ASBA lines? | 01:32 |
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| Riddell | mvo: is update-manager the only place which prompts you to download and run the dist-upgrade tool in ubuntu? | 01:47 |
| mvo | Riddell: yes | 01:48 |
| mvo | Riddell: well, and update-notifier if a CD is inserted | 01:48 |
| mvo | Riddell: with a update image | 01:48 |
| Riddell | mvo: how do you run dist-upgrade if there's no packages in the stable release to update and pop up the update-notifier icon? | 01:48 |
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| mvo | Riddell: currently there is only update-manager. it could be made part of update-notifier I think, but that makes matters more complicated | 01:50 |
| pitti | Riddell: could you please fix kdemultimedia and juk to not b-dep on libtunepimp-bin any more? it's not built any more | 01:52 |
| Riddell | pitti: ok | 01:52 |
| Riddell | mvo: so if there's no stable release updates you can't run the dist-upgrade tool? | 01:52 |
| pitti | Riddell: (and rebuild kid3 if you like to keep it installable) | 01:52 |
| pitti | Riddell: thank you | 01:52 |
| mvo | Riddell: no, just just need to run it manually | 01:52 |
| Riddell | mvo: from the command line? | 01:53 |
| mvo | Riddell: there is no notification in the tray | 01:53 |
| mvo | Riddell: from the menu | 01:53 |
| Riddell | ah, right | 01:53 |
| Riddell | thanks mvo | 01:53 |
| pitti | cjwatson: is it generally safe to remove all the older kernel ABI debs now? | 01:53 |
| mvo | Riddell: so far this was not a limitation | 01:54 |
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| kagou | mvo, i'v looked at displayconfig-gtk. My screen is missing from your MonitorsDB | 01:57 |
| kagou | mvo, where this file come from ? | 01:58 |
| Fujitsu | pitti: can you nuke the asterisk upload to Feisty before publisher runs, or not? | 01:58 |
| pitti | Fujitsu: I think I can | 01:58 |
| pitti | Fujitsu: but it's not in accepted | 01:58 |
| mvo | kagou: its part of the source right now, displayconfig/ldetect-lst/MonitorsDB | 01:59 |
| Fujitsu | It was uploaded about 10 minutes ago, I believe. | 01:59 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt gotten an accepted mail for it yet either | ||
| kagou | mvo, yes but how did you have generated it ? | 01:59 |
| cjwatson | pitti: ignore ASBA, not much you can do about it | 01:59 |
| cjwatson | pitti: normally yes, though check that all the bits that need to be rebuilt for a new kernel ABI have been rebuilt | 02:00 |
| pitti | cjwatson: that is, d-i and ubiquity? | 02:00 |
| cjwatson | pitti: not ubiquity; linux-restricted-modules, linux-meta, linux-backports-modules, d-i | 02:00 |
| kagou | mvo, i'v an belinea.inf from windows driver, i will try to parse it and try to make a diff with your file | 02:00 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, ok; thanks | 02:00 |
| mvo | kagou: its taken from kde-guidance and they have it from Xconfigrator | 02:01 |
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| pitti | kwwii_: just a warning, various artwork packages depend on usplash-dev; this needs to be fixed to libusplash-dev | 02:01 |
| kagou | mvo, oh ! so may be i should make a diff for Xconfigurator. It's a better choice no ? | 02:02 |
| mvo | kagou: I'm not sure how active Xconfigrator is actually :) so a diff against the one in displayconfig-gtk is a saver choice for now. it should also go to the kde-guidance people | 02:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: how do I check d-i? | 02:05 |
| kagou | ok mvo thanks | 02:05 |
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| kwwii_ | pitti: where does one change that? | 02:07 |
| pitti | kwwii_: debian/control, 'Build-Depends:' | 02:07 |
| kwwii_ | pitti: cool, thanks...dholbach will help me on that, I am sure :-) | 02:09 |
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| ogra | pitti, hmm, restricted manager doesnt do the right thing for me it seems ... intrestingly lsmod|grep fglrx doesnt show the module anymore now ... | 02:22 |
| pitti | ogra: --verbose, please | 02:22 |
| ogra | lsmod --verbose ? | 02:22 |
| pitti | ogra: you are using 0.4? | 02:22 |
| pitti | ogra: no, your explanation :) | 02:22 |
| ogra | ah | 02:22 |
| ogra | yes, i upgraded the whole system, removed the fglrx driver and reinstalled it with r-m to test the functionallity | 02:23 |
| ogra | since thne my lsmod | 02:23 |
| ogra | doesnt show the module anymore | 02:23 |
| ogra | apart from that | 02:24 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ glxgears | 02:24 |
| ogra | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". | 02:24 |
| pitti | ogra: xorg.conf has ati or fglrx? | 02:24 |
| ogra | fglrx | 02:24 |
| ogra | apparently its also using it ... | 02:24 |
| pitti | le huh? | 02:24 |
| ogra | (there are massive font differences between ati and fglrx ... according to the font i'm using the fglrx driver) | 02:25 |
| ogra | (and according to xorg.conf) | 02:25 |
| ogra | its just the module i dont see | 02:25 |
| pitti | that works without the kernel module? | 02:25 |
| ogra | nor any traces in dmesg | 02:25 |
| pitti | ogra: ah, wait, that might just be the module for DRI | 02:25 |
| ogra | right | 02:26 |
| ogra | still | 02:26 |
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| pitti | ogra: can you please ugprade x11-common to 7.2-0ubuntu7? | 02:26 |
| pitti | ogra: this dexconf fixed DRI handling | 02:26 |
| pitti | for fglrx | 02:26 |
| ogra | it just silently fails ... i'd at least expect anything in dmesg | 02:26 |
| ogra | my system is up to date and rebooted | 02:26 |
| pitti | ogra: what's your version? might not yet have been built | 02:27 |
| cjwatson | pitti: /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/MANIFEST.udebs | 02:27 |
| ogra | ah, right | 02:27 |
| ogra | ubuntu7 | 02:27 |
| pitti | cjwatson: thanks | 02:27 |
| pitti | ogra: ah, so you hhave the Extensions section with composite disabing? | 02:27 |
| pitti | in xorg.conf | 02:28 |
| ogra | there is: | 02:29 |
| ogra | Section "Extensions" | 02:29 |
| ogra | Option "Composite" "Enable" | 02:29 |
| ogra | EndSection | 02:29 |
| ogra | hmm | 02:29 |
| ogra | dunno where that comes from though ... it wasnt there before | 02:29 |
| pitti | ogra: hm, current dexconf should set it to '0' for driver == fglrx | 02:29 |
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| pitti | and dexconf doesn't write Extensions otherwise | 02:29 |
| pitti | ogra: sudo dexconf -o /tmp/conf produces a different one? | 02:30 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ diff -ruN /etc/X11/xorg.conf /tmp/conf | 02:32 |
| ogra | --- /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2007-03-09 14:16:05.000000000 +0100 | 02:32 |
| ogra | +++ /tmp/conf 2007-03-09 14:30:46.000000000 +0100 | 02:32 |
| ogra | @@ -153,7 +153,3 @@ | 02:32 |
| ogra | Section "DRI" | 02:32 |
| ogra | Mode 0666 | 02:32 |
| ogra | EndSection | 02:32 |
| ogra | - | 02:32 |
| ogra | -Section "Extensions" | 02:32 |
| ogra | - Option "Composite" "Enable" | 02:32 |
| ogra | -EndSection | 02:32 |
| ogra | yep | 02:32 |
| pitti | ogra: that's still wrong; can you double-check that driver is fglrx? | 02:32 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 02:33 |
| ogra | Driver "fglrx" | 02:33 |
| pitti | dpkg -l x11-common | grep -q 0ubuntu7 || echo OUTOFDATE | 02:34 |
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| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ dpkg -l x11-common | grep -q 0ubuntu7 || echo OUTOFDATE | 02:36 |
| ogra | OUTOFDATE | 02:36 |
| pitti | ogra: if that doesn't do anything, can you please get me a sh -ex output of dexconf? | 02:36 |
| pitti | aaah | 02:36 |
| pitti | ogra: as I said, 0ubuntu7 is necessary | 02:36 |
| ogra | didnt i say i have ubuntu6 only ? | 02:36 |
| pitti | <ogra> ah, right | 02:37 |
| pitti | <ogra> ubuntu7 | 02:37 |
| pitti | ogra: just a misunderstanding then, sorry :) | 02:37 |
| ogra | oh, crap | 02:37 |
| pitti | ogra: amd64? http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/x11-common_7.2-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb | 02:37 |
| ogra | i shouldnt have six conversations simultaneously, sorry | 02:37 |
| ogra | i386 | 02:37 |
| pitti | ogra: it's not yet on archive | 02:37 |
| ogra | yep, i can wait, just wanted to notify you that it doesnt work yet for me | 02:38 |
| pitti | ogra: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/dexconf, please put into /usr/bin | 02:38 |
| ogra | but more weird is the module thing | 02:38 |
| pitti | ogra: oh, it's just the script that's wrong | 02:38 |
| pitti | ogra: right, that module thing is the bit I'd like to find out | 02:38 |
| pitti | ogra: if it's not loaded automatically by the fglrx X driver, we might need to stuff it into /etc/modules or so | 02:39 |
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| tepsipakki | it should load automatically | 02:39 |
| allee | Mhh, why does autobuilder complain about already existing Orig-maintainer field? it's a 0ubuntu1 pkgs. so I thought I have to add it. pkgmaintainermangler: Error: /build/buildd/libkexiv2-0.1.1/debian/libkexiv2-0-dbgsym/DEBIAN/control already contains an Original-Maintainer field; | 02:40 |
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| ogra | well, usually the Xserver wouldnt start or at least complain if it werent loaded | 02:41 |
| allee | https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/308754 | 02:41 |
| pitti | allee: it's XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 02:41 |
| allee | pitti: that's what I added | 02:41 |
| ogra | so it *mus* be loaded ... i wnder if the kernel has a bug in listing it somehow | 02:41 |
| pitti | ogra: in this case it seems to go on without DRI | 02:41 |
| ogra | hmm | 02:41 |
| pitti | ogra: sudo modprobe fglrx? | 02:41 |
| pitti | allee: looking | 02:41 |
| allee | $ grep Maintainer libkexiv2-0.1.1/debian/control | 02:42 |
| allee | Maintainer: Achim Bohnet <allee@kubuntu.org> | 02:42 |
| allee | XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team <pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org> | 02:42 |
| ogra | pitti, done 1000 times today | 02:42 |
| ogra | its not showing up | 02:42 |
| tepsipakki | ogra: dmesg? | 02:42 |
| pitti | ogra: hm, that seems to be outside of r-m's domain then | 02:42 |
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| pitti | allee: can you please put that debian/control somewhere? | 02:43 |
| ogra | tepsipakki, just to repeat myself, nothing in dmesg, no commandline output etc ... no trace of the module, but its in /lib/modules where it belongs | 02:44 |
| mooey | is it wrong that a package won't install in a chroot? | 02:44 |
| pitti | allee: nevermind, I'll try it myself here | 02:44 |
| mvo | mooey: depens on the package, which one is it? | 02:44 |
| tepsipakki | ogra: ok, strange.. | 02:44 |
| mooey | mvo, sun-java6-jre from edgy backports, it installs out of a chroot fine but it fails consistantly in a chroot | 02:45 |
| pitti | mooey: /proc, /sys, and /dev not mounted perhaps? | 02:45 |
| tepsipakki | mooey: does it ask you about the license? | 02:46 |
| pitti | mooey: we need the output of the postinst, preferably as sh -ex /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.postinst configure | 02:46 |
| ogra | tepsipakki, | 02:46 |
| ogra | Mar 9 11:26:57 edubuntu kernel: [663600.348000] [fglrx] total TIM = 0 | 02:46 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ date | 02:46 |
| ogra | Fr 9. Mr 14:46:36 CET 2007 | 02:46 |
| mooey | tepsipakki, it does yea | 02:46 |
| mooey | pitti, one moment | 02:46 |
| ogra | tepsipakki, last trace of fglrx is 11:26 ... its now 14:46, i upgraded inbetween and had more than 60 reboots during that time (two fsck's) | 02:47 |
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| tepsipakki | ogra: try reinstalling l-r-m | 02:48 |
| mooey | oops, mounting /proc fixed it | 02:48 |
| tepsipakki | ogra: just guessing here.. | 02:49 |
| pitti | allee: alright, reproduced locally; I'll fix this in pkgmaintainermangler and ask for a rebuild | 02:49 |
| pitti | allee: fixed pkgbinarymangler uploaded; sorry for the hassle | 02:54 |
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| allee | pitti: okay, thx a lot! | 02:55 |
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| Keybuk | every time I modify the file, I have to "make clean all" otherwise it complains about "Merge mismatch for summaries" | 03:05 |
| ogra | tepsipakki, | 03:05 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-9-generic | 03:05 |
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| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx | 03:05 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ dmesg|grep fgl | 03:05 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep fgl | 03:05 |
| ogra | nothing ... | 03:05 |
| tepsipakki | weird | 03:07 |
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| Treenaks | ogra: rmmod radeon ? | 03:08 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep radeon | 03:09 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ | 03:09 |
| ogra | :) | 03:09 |
| ogra | nothing to rmmod | 03:09 |
| zul | elmo: ping I should have xen-2.6.20 this weekend hopefully | 03:15 |
| elmo | zul: wow - with what version hypervisor? | 03:16 |
| seb128 | ogra: xorg-driver-fglrx | 03:16 |
| zul | 3.0.3 | 03:16 |
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| ogra | seb128, what about it ? | 03:17 |
| zul | elmo: Im actually building the x86 version right now | 03:18 |
| seb128 | ogra: it looked like you were trying to get fglrx from linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-9-generic | 03:18 |
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| elmo | zul: hmm, how come 3.0.3 and not 3.0.4? | 03:18 |
| ogra | seb128, yes ... and even everything is installed, the module doesnt show up anywhere | 03:18 |
| ogra | even if i modprobe ... | 03:18 |
| ogra | not even in dmesg ... | 03:18 |
| ogra | no error, no success .... | 03:19 |
| zul | elmo: because redhat didnt have a kernel for 3.0.3 at the time and 3.0.4 was giving users grief with timing issues | 03:19 |
| seb128 | ogra: tried to modprobe it from a VT? | 03:19 |
| elmo | zul: hmm, ok | 03:19 |
| zul | 3.0.5 for feisty+1 though | 03:19 |
| ogra | seb128, good idea ... but same symptoms | 03:20 |
| seb128 | ogra: you should get errors on the command line from a VT | 03:20 |
| pitti | seb128: but those errors should appear in kern.log/dmesg, too, no? | 03:20 |
| ogra | seb128, nope, absolute silence | 03:21 |
| seb128 | pitti: right | 03:21 |
| ogra | seb128, are you using fglrx anywhere atm ? | 03:21 |
| seb128 | ogra: no, but I can try it quickly on my desktop | 03:22 |
| ogra | i wonder if the l-r-m package is broken | 03:22 |
| seb128 | I tried a week ago and it was working fine | 03:22 |
| ogra | well, yesterday it was working fine for me :) | 03:22 |
| ogra | until i upgraded and tried out restricted-manager | 03:22 |
| pitti | seb128: use r-m :) | 03:23 |
| ogra | r-m- is cool btw ... kudos pitti | 03:24 |
| pitti | seb128: and, before that, please install http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/dexconf | 03:24 |
| pitti | ogra: Keybuk did most of the work so far :) | 03:24 |
| ogra | the "in use" column doesnt show anything yet ... | 03:24 |
| pitti | seb128: to /usr/bin/dexconf; it's uploaded, but not yet on the archive, it fixes the composite setting | 03:24 |
| pitti | ogra: the 'in use' column basically does lsmod|grep module | 03:24 |
| ogra | ah | 03:24 |
| pitti | ogra: but for fglrx we probably need some additional magic, like grepping the X.org log or hacky stuff | 03:25 |
| pitti | ogra: unless you happen to know a command or call how to determine the *currently running* X driver? | 03:25 |
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| torkel | pitti: does r-m magically makes fglrx work with older cards (Mobility FireGL 9000) too? :-) | 03:27 |
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| pitti | torkel: I don't have an ATI card, I don't know; feedback and bug reports appreciated | 03:27 |
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| ogra | pitti, usually the lsmod should work as well | 03:27 |
| pitti | ogra: it does for nvidia at least, it won't start up without the module | 03:27 |
| pitti | but apparently the fglrx driver can do without DRI | 03:27 |
| bddebian | Heya | 03:28 |
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| ogra | pitti, hmm, right ... | 03:29 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok, what should I do to try fglrx? | 03:29 |
| pitti | seb128: download above dexconf, stick it into /usr/bin | 03:29 |
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| pitti | seb128: (that will happen once x11-common reaches the archive) | 03:30 |
| pitti | seb128: and then just start restricted-manager (make sure to have 0.4) and enable the driver | 03:30 |
| torkel | pitti: they have dropped a lot of older cards in later versions of fglrx (see also #83958) | 03:30 |
| tepsipakki | torkel: it doesn't magically fix that, no | 03:31 |
| torkel | tepsipakki: I know, it was an attempt to a joke | 03:32 |
| tepsipakki | torkel: this is serious :) | 03:33 |
| Riddell | pitti: I just got both a reject and accept e-mail for xdg-utils, do you know what that's about? | 03:35 |
| pitti | Riddell: yes, sorry; first I rejected it because of the wrong .changes | 03:35 |
| pitti | Riddell: then I noticed that it was universe in edgy, and accepted it | 03:35 |
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| pitti | Riddell: for main I'm stricter about following the policy | 03:36 |
| Riddell | pitti: ok, thanks | 03:36 |
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| seb128 | pitti: works fine (activating fglrx) | 03:47 |
| pitti | seb128: yay! | 03:47 |
| pitti | seb128: you have the composite disabling in xorg.conf, too? | 03:48 |
| seb128 | yep | 03:48 |
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| seb128 | dunno if that's required though | 03:48 |
| seb128 | I tried without that option and xorg was working fine | 03:48 |
| seb128 | ogra: there is no fglrx kernel module, that's a video driver BTW, what do you try to modprobe? | 03:49 |
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| ogra | seb128, ls /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/ | 03:51 |
| ogra | do you see fglrx.ko ? | 03:51 |
| jdong | BenC: can we have fglrx 8.34.8, pretty please? Fixes suspend and resume. | 03:51 |
| seb128 | $ ls /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/ | 03:51 |
| seb128 | ls: /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/: No such file or directory | 03:51 |
| jdong | and oh yeah. xv on amd64 doesn't segfault anymore | 03:51 |
| ogra | seb128, hmm, intresting | 03:51 |
| BenC | jdong: Sure | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | seb128: Uh, there really is an fglrx module | 03:52 |
| seb128 | mjg59: I'm using fglrx without it | 03:52 |
| jdong | BenC: thanks! | 03:52 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko | 03:52 |
| ogra | dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko nicht gefunden. | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | seb128: Can you put xorg.conf somewhere, please? | 03:52 |
| ogra | hmm, dpkg disagrees with mjg59 | 03:52 |
| BenC | seb128: Then you aren't using the Xorg fglrx in xorg.conf | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | ogra: Yes, that's because it's a generated file | 03:53 |
| ogra | ah | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | seb128: Also Xorg.0.log | 03:53 |
| ogra | mjg59, same goes for me, i'm using fglrx without th ekernel module ... which doesnt show up anywhere or doesnt show any output to modprobe | 03:54 |
| seb128 | mjg59, BenC: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/xorg.conf | 03:54 |
| ogra | i start to suspect l-r-m is borked | 03:54 |
| seb128 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/Xorg.0.log | 03:54 |
| BenC | the xorg fglrx driver should choke if it can't load the fglrx kernel module | 03:54 |
| jdong | ogra: dpkg installs fglrx.o in /lib/l-r-m | 03:54 |
| jdong | BenC: actually it doesn't... | 03:55 |
| jdong | BenC: it falls back to 2D | 03:55 |
| ogra | jdong, yes, i see it | 03:55 |
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| ogra | its there, but modprobe remains silent ... | 03:55 |
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| kylem | ogra, run depmod -a | 03:55 |
| kylem | and try again | 03:55 |
| mjg59 | seb128: You have a /dev/dri/foo. That means there's a kernel driver there. | 03:55 |
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| mjg59 | Oh, on the other hand, (WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection | 03:56 |
| seb128 | mjg59: | 03:56 |
| seb128 | $ sudo lsmod | grep fglrx | 03:56 |
| seb128 | $ | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * | 03:56 |
| BenC | seb128, ogra: See what "sudo modprobe fglrx" says | 03:56 |
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| ogra | kylem, did that already ... but for you .... | 03:56 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe fglrx && lsmod |grep fgl | 03:56 |
| ogra | Password: | 03:56 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ | 03:56 |
| kylem | ogra, special. | 03:57 |
| ogra | BenC, nothing, not eve in kern.log or anywhere | 03:57 |
| seb128 | $ sudo modprobe fglrx | 03:57 |
| seb128 | FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx | 03:57 |
| ogra | oh, you have a modprobe.d file ? | 03:57 |
| BenC | sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules start | 03:57 |
| BenC | there are modprobe.d files | 03:57 |
| BenC | calls an lrm tool | 03:57 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules start | 03:57 |
| ogra | sudo: /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules: command not found | 03:57 |
| jdong | BenC: l-r-m-common | 03:57 |
| seb128 | $ sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules start | 03:57 |
| seb128 | sudo: /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules: command not found | 03:57 |
| ogra | hmm | 03:57 |
| jdong | lol | 03:57 |
| seb128 | it's -common | 03:58 |
| seb128 | make no difference | 03:58 |
| BenC | seb128: s/modules/modules-common/ | 03:58 |
| seb128 | $ sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start | 03:58 |
| seb128 | * Preparing restricted drivers... | 03:58 |
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| seb128 | $ sudo modprobe fglrx | 03:58 |
| seb128 | FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx | 03:58 |
| jdong | seb128: have cat xorg.conf | grep fglrx? | 03:58 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start | 03:58 |
| ogra | * Preparing restricted drivers... [ OK ] | 03:58 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | jdong: xorg.conf is fine | 03:58 |
| BenC | seb128: Do you even have lrm-commone installed? | 03:58 |
| jdong | mjg59: mmm ok | 03:58 |
| jdong | they both seem to | 03:58 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo modprobe fglrx && lsmod|grep fgl | 03:59 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ | 03:59 |
| BenC | or lrm for that matter | 03:59 |
| jdong | it's the post-install command that apparently borks out | 03:59 |
| jdong | that big ugly sed thing :) | 03:59 |
| seb128 | ii linux-restricted-modules 2.6.20.2-9.8 Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules helper script | 03:59 |
| ogra | BenC, until 11:26 am today i had fglrx :) it vanished with an upgrade ... (16:00 now here) | 03:59 |
| _ion | '/sbin/modinfo -F alias nvidia' lists a bunch of 'pci:' aliases, but '/sbin/modinfo -F alias fglrx' lists none. Could that be related to the problem at all? | 04:00 |
| ogra | BenC, i really think something in l-r-m is broken | 04:00 |
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| BenC | sudo apt-get install linux-generic | 04:00 |
| BenC | make sure you have all the meta packages installed | 04:00 |
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| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install linux-generic | 04:01 |
| ogra | Reading package lists... Done | 04:01 |
| ogra | Building dependency tree | 04:01 |
| ogra | Reading state information... Done | 04:01 |
| ogra | linux-generic is already the newest version. | 04:01 |
| seb128 | BenC: I don't have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-9-generic installed | 04:01 |
| ogra | nope ... | 04:01 |
| seb128 | installing ... | 04:01 |
| BenC | seb128: installing linux-generic should pull it in | 04:01 |
| _ion | Even easier: apt-get install linux :-) It depends on linux-generic. | 04:01 |
| seb128 | BenC: yeah, it does | 04:01 |
| seb128 | linux-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-9-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic | 04:01 |
| BenC | seb128: Ok, so yours we can chalk up to a meta-package desync local to your system | 04:02 |
| BenC | ogra: I'm concerned about why yours isn't working. What ATI chip do you have? | 04:02 |
| ogra | radeon mobility r200m | 04:03 |
| ogra | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) | 04:03 |
| ogra | to be precise | 04:03 |
| mjr | xpress 200m is notorious | 04:04 |
| ogra | fglrx worked with it at some point ... | 04:04 |
| mjg59 | If by "notorious" you mean "shit", then yes | 04:04 |
| mjr | the DRI developers don't know how to initialize memory for it, dunno about fglrx | 04:04 |
| mjg59 | But that's not really the point | 04:04 |
| BenC | I wonder if the newer driver doesn't support it anymore | 04:04 |
| mjr | mjg59, yes I do mean "shit", but true, beside the point. I was just setting up my further comment. | 04:05 |
| BenC | anyone know how to get to the latest ATI beta drivers? | 04:05 |
| ogra | i havent tried 3D stuff for a while, but it worked before todays upgrade ... which must have been the ats 2.6.20-9 package | 04:05 |
| ogra | *last | 04:05 |
| BenC | normal support link goes to 8.32.5 | 04:05 |
| mjg59 | The 200M is supposed to be supported | 04:05 |
| ogra | yes | 04:05 |
| ogra | the silence of modprobe is very suspicious /me thinks | 04:06 |
| jdong | xpress 200m works nowaays | 04:06 |
| seb128 | BenC: | 04:06 |
| BenC | the feed shows 8.34.8, but doesn't link to the download | 04:06 |
| seb128 | $ sudo modprobe fglrx | 04:06 |
| seb128 | FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx | 04:06 |
| jdong | I've helped many people get fglrx+xgl to dthat | 04:06 |
| mjg59 | ogra: What does modinfo fglrx give you? | 04:06 |
| seb128 | after package install and sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start | 04:06 |
| jdong | BenC: go to ATI.com, download Linux drivers for the highest radeon model | 04:06 |
| jdong | BenC: their stupid release notes don't link to drivers | 04:06 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ modinfo fglrx | 04:06 |
| ogra | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko | 04:06 |
| ogra | depends: agpgart | 04:06 |
| ogra | vermagic: 2.6.20-9-generic SMP mod_unload 586 | 04:06 |
| ogra | license: Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY | 04:06 |
| ogra | ... | 04:06 |
| ogra | seems fine | 04:06 |
| seb128 | kernel: [19204.817528] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929 MBytes. | 04:06 |
| seb128 | kernel: [19204.817731] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed | 04:07 |
| BenC | seb128: cool, I saw that at dell | 04:07 |
| mjg59 | Seb loses. | 04:07 |
| tepsipakki | :) | 04:07 |
| BenC | err, on a dell | 04:07 |
| jdong | seb128: are you running amd64 or something? | 04:07 |
| ogra | seb128, thats kern.log ? | 04:07 |
| seb128 | jdong: i386 distro on an amd64 box | 04:07 |
| seb128 | ogra: yep | 04:07 |
| mjg59 | ogra: ls /sys/module/*fgl* ? | 04:07 |
| jdong | that shouldn't do it then :( | 04:07 |
| seb128 | ogra: my computer has no brand ;) | 04:08 |
| seb128 | ups | 04:08 |
| mjg59 | jdong: Drivers shouldn't bail out with cryptic errors on load? Shock! | 04:08 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ ls /sys/module/*fgl* | 04:08 |
| ogra | ls: /sys/module/*fgl*: No such file or directory | 04:08 |
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| ogra | mjg59, ^^ | 04:08 |
| seb128 | BenC: my computer has no brand ;) | 04:08 |
| BenC | seb128: poor thing, you need to help it find an identify :) | 04:08 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ grep fglrx /var/log/kern.log | 04:08 |
| ogra | ... | 04:08 |
| ogra | Mar 9 11:26:57 edubuntu kernel: [663600.348000] [fglrx] max single Inv = 0 | 04:08 |
| ogra | Mar 9 11:26:57 edubuntu kernel: [663600.348000] [fglrx] total TIM = 0 | 04:08 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ date | 04:08 |
| ogra | Fr 9. Mr 16:08:33 CET 2007 | 04:08 |
| mjg59 | ogra: In that case, the modprobe.d fragment is under the impression that you don't need fglrx, and so is refusing to load it | 04:08 |
| seb128 | BenC: :) | 04:08 |
| jdong | mjg59: usplash shouldn't destory all my vt's? *shock* (kidding!) | 04:08 |
| ogra | mjg59, hmm ... l-r-m common intalls these snippets ? | 04:09 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 04:09 |
| BenC | the modprobe.d just calls a script in lrm-common | 04:09 |
| BenC | install fglrx /sbin/lrm-video fglrx $CMDLINE_OPTS | 04:10 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ LANG=C dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx | 04:10 |
| ogra | dpkg: /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx not found. | 04:10 |
| ogra | intresting | 04:10 |
| lamont | doko_: you around? | 04:10 |
| BenC | so you can actually do: sudo lrm-video fglrx | 04:10 |
| lamont | doko_: how come oopenoffice.org says it built successfully on ia64, but didn't deliver openoffice.org-writer? | 04:10 |
| BenC | ogra: /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video | 04:10 |
| ogra | right | 04:11 |
| ogra | i wonder if that fglrx file pverrides it | 04:11 |
| ogra | *overrides | 04:11 |
| ogra | and where that comes from ... i surely didnt create it | 04:11 |
| mjg59 | ogra: They're shell scripts. It's easy to have a play. | 04:11 |
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| BenC | ogra: $ dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video linux-restricted-modules-common: /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video | 04:12 |
| BenC | missing \n, but it's lrm-common | 04:12 |
| ogra | BenC, i meant /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx in my dir ... | 04:12 |
| BenC | ogra: Oh, that sounds like just you :) | 04:12 |
| ogra | i didnt create it | 04:13 |
| BenC | the lrm-video has been in use since I started in ubuntu, IIRC | 04:13 |
| ogra | and fglrx worked until last upgrade ... | 04:13 |
| BenC | ogra: Try removing that file | 04:13 |
| BenC | see if things work after that | 04:13 |
| doko_ | lamont: libmythes-dev only; you didn't port ooo, did you? | 04:14 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx . | 04:14 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo modprobe fglrx | 04:14 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ lsmod |grep fgl | 04:14 |
| ogra | nope | 04:14 |
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| tepsipakki | ogra: check /var/log/dpkg.log for changes after you had it working | 04:14 |
| doko_ | lamont: but I can make it ftbfs for you ;-p | 04:14 |
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| torkel | ankpelle:~# dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx | 04:15 |
| torkel | xorg-driver-fglrx: /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx | 04:15 |
| BenC | interesting that there's an override on that | 04:17 |
| BenC | torkel: What does the file contain? | 04:17 |
| ogra | install fglrx if cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2>/dev/null | sed -n -e '/^[ \\t] *section[ \\t] *"device"/I,/^[ \\t] *endsection/I{/^[ \\t] *driver[ \\t] */I{s/^[ \\t] *driver[ \\t] *"*//I;s/"*[ \\t] *$//;p}}' | grep -q -w fglrx; then modprobe --ignore-install -Qb $CMDLINE_OPTS fglrx; else echo "Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf" 1>&2; fi | 04:17 |
| ogra | only one line | 04:17 |
| BenC | that is so ugly | 04:18 |
| ogra | yeah | 04:18 |
| BenC | generally, it's the xorg driver that loads it, so I suspect that snippet is overkill | 04:18 |
| BenC | except to save people who manually add fglrx to /etc/modules or something | 04:19 |
| BenC | I wonder if that's from ati's driver...maybe I could just leave it out | 04:19 |
| BenC | The /sbin/lrm-video script has a similar snippet | 04:20 |
| BenC | so it is overkill | 04:20 |
| BenC | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sed -n -e '/^[ \t] *section[ \\t] *"device"/I,/^[ \t] *endsection/I{/^[ \t] *driver[ \t] */I{s/^[ \t] *driver[ \t] *"*//I;s/"*[ \t] *$//;p}}' | 04:21 |
| BenC | ogra: What does that command output for you? | 04:21 |
| ogra | AHA !!!! | 04:22 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko | 04:22 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ lsmod |grep fglrx | 04:22 |
| ogra | fglrx 527192 0 | 04:22 |
| ogra | agpgart 33480 2 fglrx,ati_agp | 04:22 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ sudo modprobe fglrx | 04:22 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ lsmod |grep fglrx | 04:22 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ | 04:22 |
| kylem | oh. | 04:22 |
| ogra | modprobe is broken ! | 04:23 |
| jdong | BenC: no, the xorg driver makes no attempt at loadking fglrx.ko.... | 04:23 |
| jdong | (that's nvidia you're thinking of) | 04:23 |
| jdong | most people do put fglrx in /etc/modules | 04:23 |
| BenC | ogra: Most likely the lrm-video and fglrx modprobe.d snippet isn't liking your xorg.conf...what does that cat/sed command above shows for you? | 04:23 |
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| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2>/dev/null | sed -n -e '/^[ \\t] *section[ \\t] *"device"/I,/^[ \\t] *endsection/I{/^[ \\t] *driver[ \\t] */I{s/^[ \\t] *driver[ \\t] *"*//I;s/"*[ \\t] *$//;p}}' | grep -q -w fglrx | 04:24 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/devel$ | 04:24 |
| BenC | jdong: Ah, I thought fglrx tried to load it like nvidia | 04:24 |
| ogra | niente .... | 04:24 |
| BenC | ogra: Minus the final grep, what does it actually output | 04:24 |
| ogra | nothing either | 04:24 |
| pitti | jdong: btw, sorry for so many needsinfo sync bugs; the backports process was more or less dead for quite a while, but it's settled now | 04:24 |
| BenC | ogra: And use the one I pasted, since that's the one lrm-video uses | 04:25 |
| jdong | pitti: no sweat, thanks archive team for all the backports processed :) | 04:25 |
| BenC | ogra: Uploading your xorg.conf somewhere would be nice too | 04:25 |
| ogra | BenC, fglrx | 04:25 |
| kylem | i don't think you can have the kernel agp drivers loaded along with fglrx... i think you need to blacklist them... | 04:25 |
| BenC | ogra: So the fglrx modprobe.d file is broken | 04:25 |
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| ogra | BenC, but removing it doesnt fix it | 04:26 |
| jdong | kylem: no, that's fine.... | 04:26 |
| jdong | I've had a few bad runins with the insmod sedjob thingie | 04:26 |
| ogra | BenC, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/xorg.conf | 04:26 |
| ogra | its freshly generated | 04:26 |
| jdong | where it would not believe at times fglrx is needed | 04:26 |
| ogra | two hours ago or so | 04:26 |
| ogra | BenC, what bothers me is that insmod works but modprobe doesnt | 04:27 |
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| lamont | doko_: ooffice was using ia32-libs-openoffice.org on ia64 and amd64 - did that change? | 04:28 |
| doko_ | lamont: we don't have the ia32 package anymore (builds native on amd64), already in edgy | 04:30 |
| lamont | figures | 04:30 |
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| BenC | ogra: modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx | 04:33 |
| BenC | oops | 04:33 |
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| BenC | ogra: modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx | 04:34 |
| BenC | that'll probably work | 04:34 |
| ogra | wait ... | 04:34 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx | 04:34 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ lsmod |grep fgl | 04:34 |
| ogra | nop | 04:34 |
| BenC | ogra: Run depmod -a | 04:35 |
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| ogra | did that several times ... but will do again | 04:35 |
| kylem | lamont, duct taped to the ceiling. | 04:35 |
| BenC | ogra: Does "modinfo fglrx" show it? | 04:35 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ sudo depmod -a | 04:35 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx | 04:35 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ lsmod |grep fgl | 04:35 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ | 04:35 |
| lamont | kylem: iz t-bar ceiling --> won't hold it | 04:35 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ modinfo fglrx | 04:36 |
| ogra | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.20-9-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko | 04:36 |
| ogra | depends: agpgart | 04:36 |
| ogra | ... | 04:36 |
| ogra | all fine | 04:36 |
| BenC | ogra: does "rgrep fglrx /etc/modprobe.d/" show any other references? | 04:36 |
| BenC | ogra: and did you remove /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx? | 04:37 |
| ogra | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted:blacklist fglrx | 04:37 |
| ogra | ugh | 04:37 |
| BenC | feh | 04:37 |
| ogra | where does that come from ? | 04:37 |
| jdong | lol | 04:37 |
| BenC | I don't have that file | 04:37 |
| jdong | ogra: can I buy you a legal nonalcoholic beverage next time I see you? | 04:37 |
| jdong | :D | 04:37 |
| BenC | ogra: Did you get OSS anal one day and add that file? :) | 04:38 |
| ogra | BenC, me neither | 04:38 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ LANG=C dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted | 04:38 |
| ogra | dpkg: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted not found. | 04:38 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted | 04:38 |
| ogra | # This file is used to disable restricted drivers | 04:38 |
| ogra | blacklist fglrx | 04:38 |
| BenC | sudo apt-get --purge remove rms | 04:38 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ ls -lh /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted | 04:38 |
| ogra | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66 2007-03-09 12:53 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted | 04:38 |
| jdong | BenC: RMS found his ssh key.... | 04:38 |
| ogra | and its brandnew | 04:39 |
| ogra | pitti, ??? ^^^ | 04:39 |
| ogra | does r-m create it ? | 04:39 |
| jdong | oh wtf BenC you already made an RMS joke :D | 04:39 |
| BenC | ogra: I just did a dist-upgrade and don't have that file | 04:39 |
| BenC | and I have lrm+lrm-common installed | 04:39 |
| BenC | brb | 04:39 |
| ogra | BenC, did you use restricted-manager to switch it on and off ? | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | ogra: you fired up r-m and disabled it then <g> | 04:40 |
| Keybuk | restricted-manager --enable fglrx | 04:40 |
| ogra | Keybuk, i disabled and enabled it through the gui as that was my testcase for pitti :) | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | you didn't enable it hard enough <g> | 04:41 |
| ogra | but i cant enable it again ... | 04:41 |
| ogra | heh | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | what does that command say? | 04:41 |
| jdong | "FreeSoftwareError: RMS is going to murder you" | 04:41 |
| ogra | Must be run as root :P | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | jdong: I did originally name it "Restricted Module Setup" | 04:41 |
| ogra | Keybuk, "fglrx is already enabled" | 04:42 |
| Keybuk | ogra: I assume you know what to do next | 04:42 |
| ogra | :) | 04:42 |
| jdong | Keybuk: HA! that's priceless | 04:42 |
| ogra | Keybuk, but still | 04:42 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted | 04:42 |
| ogra | # This file is used to disable restricted drivers | 04:42 |
| ogra | blacklist fglrx | 04:42 |
| jdong | can anyone reproduce? | 04:42 |
| pitti | tfheen: could you please throw a look at bug 85403? both elmo and seb128 think that's a good idea | 04:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85403 in vnc4 "ship xvnc4viewer by default (in main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85403 | 04:42 |
| Keybuk | ogra: you must have disabled it with an earlier version of restricted-manager | 04:42 |
| jdong | (not biologically, that bug) | 04:43 |
| Keybuk | just remove that file | 04:43 |
| Keybuk | (pitti has added an fglrx module handler to it) | 04:43 |
| ogra | Keybuk, indeed, that might be | 04:43 |
| pitti | ogra: ah, it was still blacklisted? now that explains a lot :) | 04:44 |
| Keybuk | r-m uses the blacklist to enable/disable modules when there's no specific handler for it | 04:44 |
| ogra | yeah | 04:44 |
| seb128 | jdong: hi | 04:44 |
| ogra | works fine now :) | 04:44 |
| Keybuk | but when there's a specific handler, it doesn't use the blacklist since the specific handler overrides the enable() function :p | 04:44 |
| pitti | ogra: however, this transition should be handled more cleanly; can you please file a bug for me to remember? | 04:44 |
| ogra | will do | 04:44 |
| pitti | ogra: in this case the enabling/disabling should *also* handle module blacklisting | 04:44 |
| seb128 | jdong:is somebody else authorized to approve backport requests? | 04:44 |
| pitti | ogra: thanks a lot! | 04:44 |
| ogra | tanks for the help :) | 04:45 |
| ogra | *thanks as well :) | 04:45 |
| BenC | ogra: No, haven't touched that. Maybe that's it | 04:47 |
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| jdong | seb128: imbrandon, slomo_, anyone on the Backports team I fully trust to approve them | 04:48 |
| cjwatson | seb128: ubuntu-backporters team, or at least that's who I've been trusting | 04:48 |
| ogra | BenC, yes, its the r-m 0.3 version i used ... | 04:48 |
| seb128 | jdong: ok, because I did a round of edgy backports approval yesterday, I was not sure who else than you is authorized to do that, do you use a special status like "In Progress" when the backport has been accepted? | 04:50 |
| seb128 | random people do +1 on bugs | 04:50 |
| jdong | seb128: In Progress == accepted | 04:50 |
| seb128 | it's not clear if they are accepted or not though | 04:50 |
| seb128 | cjwatson: ok | 04:50 |
| jdong | seb128: +1 people are my testing drones... only In Progress counts :) | 04:50 |
| seb128 | jdong: ok | 04:51 |
| jdong | well, off to lecture | 04:51 |
| jdong | will see everyone later :) | 04:51 |
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| seb128 | pitti: did you process the backports today? | 04:52 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, all of them | 04:52 |
| seb128 | pitti: utch :/ | 04:53 |
| pitti | seb128: well, except those which aren't confirmed, of course | 04:53 |
| seb128 | pitti: you did backport a lot of things not accepted I think | 04:53 |
| seb128 | pitti: "confirmed" is not to backport | 04:53 |
| seb128 | "in progress" are those to backport | 04:53 |
| pitti | seb128: right | 04:53 |
| pitti | seb128: I meant 'I looked at all the backport bugs, did the ones with jdong's approval, and triaged the rest' | 04:53 |
| pitti | seb128: I set back some to needsinfo which were out of sync, for example | 04:54 |
| pitti | and which had been inprogress before | 04:54 |
| seb128 | weird, there was like backports 30 bugs open yesterday and ubuntu-archive list of subscribed bug is 18 bugs today | 04:54 |
| seb128 | did you close all the "SRU should be consider first"? | 04:54 |
| seb128 | there was a bunch of them | 04:54 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I did my best to clean up u-archive/+subedbugs | 04:54 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 04:54 |
| pitti | seb128: I unsub'ed u-archive from the SRUs | 04:54 |
| pitti | seb128: since they cannot be fixed immediately, and ubuntu-sru/+subscribedbugs is much better for this | 04:55 |
| pitti | they just clutter up the archive team bug list | 04:55 |
| seb128 | pitti: I don't do sru, I just looked at backport yesterday | 04:55 |
| pitti | tfheen: can you please give-back libkexiv2? fixed pkgbinarymangler is in the archive now | 04:55 |
| seb128 | I'm just surprised that you manager to reduce the backport list so much | 04:55 |
| seb128 | managed | 04:56 |
| seb128 | I had the impression than many of them were waiting on approval yesterday | 04:56 |
| pitti | seb128: *shrug*, there were some approved dapper-backports requests where you only did the edgy one | 04:56 |
| pitti | seb128: feel free to check the list, but I'm fairly sure I checked them correctly | 04:56 |
| seb128 | I did backports for the first time yesterday, just wondering if I'm too cautious | 04:57 |
| pitti | seb128: maybe the confusion comes from the bug status | 04:57 |
| seb128 | not questioning what you did | 04:57 |
| pitti | seb128: it's likely that there were approved bugs with 'confirmed' status | 04:57 |
| pitti | seb128: I looked at the actual bug comments and 'approved' mails from jdong | 04:57 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok, in fact I got confused because you changed to Needs Info the things that need to be confirmed | 04:58 |
| seb128 | that's all fine ;) | 04:59 |
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| === pitti hugs seb128, great | ||
| === seb128 hugs pitti back | ||
| === pitti is happy that fglrx now works for both seb128 and ogra, thanks for testing | ||
| seb128 | np | 05:01 |
| ogra | :) | 05:01 |
| seb128 | I'll be back to ati to next xorg restart though :p | 05:01 |
| seb128 | I prefer composite to 3d ;) | 05:01 |
| ogra | i whish comosite would work for me | 05:01 |
| ogra | *composite | 05:01 |
| pitti | seb128: right, if the free driver works, so much the better | 05:02 |
| seb128 | yeah | 05:02 |
| seb128 | pitti: I'm confused by https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs now :/ | 05:02 |
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| pitti | seb128: however, compiz gets better - I managed to work with it yesterday for a whole 30 minutes! that's absolute record so far | 05:02 |
| seb128 | pitti: it used to list all the edgy-backport tasks, no? | 05:02 |
| pitti | seb128: right | 05:03 |
| pitti | seb128: it still lists some which are needsinfo and such | 05:03 |
| seb128 | k, that's why the list changed so much | 05:03 |
| seb128 | there is still lot of bugs open on https://bugs.launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bugs | 05:03 |
| seb128 | ubuntu-archive is just not subscribed to them | 05:03 |
| pitti | oh, indeed | 05:04 |
| pitti | I never looked at the edgy-backports/+bugs page | 05:04 |
| seb128 | yesterday there was like 40 bugs I did close | 05:04 |
| seb128 | I didn't get how you manager to close them | 05:04 |
| elmo | oh | 05:04 |
| seb128 | well, lp must have changed | 05:04 |
| seb128 | or teams | 05:04 |
| elmo | there are a bunch of backport bugs assigned to me | 05:04 |
| seb128 | because yesterday they were listed on ubuntu-archive subscribed | 05:04 |
| pitti | seb128: no, probably those bugs have never been subscribed to u-archive | 05:04 |
| elmo | could someone redirect them somewhere appropriate? they may also be entirely obsolete | 05:04 |
| seb128 | they were yesterday | 05:04 |
| pitti | seb128: are you sure? | 05:04 |
| seb128 | hum, no | 05:05 |
| pitti | elmo: those all belong to {dapper,edgy}-backports product? if so, we'll get them | 05:05 |
| seb128 | pitti: k, maybe I switching from ubuntu-archive/+bugs to edgy-backport/+bugs yesterday while working | 05:06 |
| elmo | pitti: breezy-backports actually :) | 05:06 |
| seb128 | switched | 05:06 |
| pitti | elmo: *cough* not worth bothering about those, I guess | 05:06 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll walk though those lists again | 05:06 |
| seb128 | pitti: I did read almost all the edgy backports bugs yesterday, not real need to bother with them | 05:07 |
| seb128 | feel free to do the dapper ones if you want ;) | 05:07 |
| pitti | alright | 05:07 |
| elmo | The Ubuntu list servers are going down for 30 mins or so for a hardware upgrade. | 05:08 |
| seb128 | pitti: good work on the ubuntu-archive list of bugs BTW, nice to have it so short again ;) | 05:08 |
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| pitti | seb128: then let's formalize this by unsub'ing u-archive from the rest of the backports bugs and I'll change the wiki page | 05:11 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok, thank you | 05:11 |
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| seb128 | only backports that need to processed should have ubuntu-archive subscribed | 05:11 |
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| pitti | seb128: why, filtering the products for confirmed+inprogress does this more reliably, right? | 05:12 |
| seb128 | alright, that works as well | 05:13 |
| pitti | seb128: but as you wish, I can leave them subscribed | 05:13 |
| seb128 | "in progress" only | 05:13 |
| pitti | but personally I prefer canned searches over manual subscribing | 05:13 |
| seb128 | jdong said those are the ones approved | 05:13 |
| pitti | ok, if we can rely on that, sure | 05:13 |
| pitti | seb128: yay, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs is even shorter now :) | 05:19 |
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| seb128 | awesome work ;) | 05:20 |
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| geser | keescook: I've prepared debdiffs for gpgme1.0 at bug #90864 | 05:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90864 in gpgme1.0 "Debdiff to fix CVE-2007-1263 in feisty and edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90864 | 05:39 |
| keescook | geser: you rule! thank you! :) | 05:40 |
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| siretart | keescook: thanks for your patch in debbugs! did you see the additional hunk A Menucc posted? | 05:42 |
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| keescook | siretart: I just started checking email. what's the url? | 05:43 |
| siretart | keescook: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=414072;msg=12 | 05:45 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 414072 in xine-lib "Bug#414072: CVE-2007-1246: DMO decoder heap allocation overflow" [Grave,Closed] | 05:45 |
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| keescook | siretart: cool, thanks. | 05:46 |
| j1mc | hey all, per the instructions near the bottom of this page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ReportingResults), shouldn't new "bugs" be created for each nightly release for ISO testers to report their results (see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bugs)? it looks like we're a bit behind. | 05:58 |
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| j1mc | should individual testers just create a new "reporting bug" if one doesn't already exist for their most recent nightly image? | 05:59 |
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| ogra | KMAP=$(echo "get xserver-xorg/config/inputdevice/keyboard/layout"|debconf-communicate 2>/dev/null|cut -d ' ' -f 2) | 06:07 |
| pochu | j1mc: no, individual testers shouldn't create bugs, just comment existing ones | 06:07 |
| pochu | j1mc: looking the wiki | 06:07 |
| ogra | ^^ does anybody have a hint how to make that return noting if the debconf value doesnt exist ? | 06:08 |
| ogra | *nothing | 06:08 |
| ogra | seems denconf communicate just reached the path through if xserver-xorg/config/inputdevice/keyboard/layout isnt existing | 06:08 |
| ogra | *reaches | 06:08 |
| j1mc | pochu: are the last set of images created really from 20070302, or are people just behind in creating new reporting bugs? | 06:10 |
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| pochu | j1mc: the last images are of today, | 06:11 |
| pochu | j1mc: people shouldn't create them | 06:12 |
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| j1mc | pochu: sorry for any confusion, but ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bugs ) only shows xubuntu builds as of March 1st. | 06:14 |
| j1mc | of course, you can download nightlies that are more recent than that. | 06:14 |
| pochu | j1mc: the reports are for testing the release candidates (herd candidates, beta candidates...) but not for testing daily builds | 06:15 |
| pochu | j1mc: so all the reports are all | 06:15 |
| pochu | tfheen: am I right? (not sure hehe) | 06:16 |
| pochu | j1mc: the reports are done by a script, so you shouldn't create new reports | 06:16 |
| j1mc | pochu: thanks . . . do you know where should testers be reporting results off of nightly images? | 06:17 |
| pochu | j1mc: I think there is no need to report results of daily builds, ATM | 06:18 |
| pochu | j1mc: just reports bug against the right packages :) | 06:18 |
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| angasule | is there a #ubuntu-games-devel channel? or anyone who cares about games on ubuntu? the current status isn't very good | 06:19 |
| j1mc | pochu: thanks. :) i'll relay this to the xubuntu testers. i take it that nightly tests will pick back up as we approach the first beta? | 06:19 |
| pochu | j1mc: but we are going to test the images for the beta this weekend, so we should create reports for that | 06:19 |
| j1mc | :-) | 06:19 |
| pochu | j1mc: sure :) | 06:20 |
| j1mc | pochu: thanks . . . talk to you later. | 06:20 |
| pochu | j1mc: when you want :) | 06:20 |
| pochu | j1mc: and thanks for you work ;) | 06:21 |
| j1mc | pochu: you're welcome! | 06:21 |
| jdong | ha. Ubuntu. gaming | 06:24 |
| jdong | the only game is let's see if Xgl can break even more. | 06:24 |
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| seb128 | jdong: are some people still using Xgl? | 06:25 |
| angasule | anyone? I was thinking ubuntu could include an updated OpenAL (the current version is years old) as well as some other libraries that are good for games | 06:25 |
| angasule | seb128: quite a few, I hear a few mentions of xgl on #beryl every now and then | 06:25 |
| jdong | seb128: fglrx people have no choice | 06:25 |
| jdong | seb128: and nvidia-legacy people | 06:25 |
| seb128 | jdong: why? | 06:25 |
| jdong | seb128: no AIGLX | 06:25 |
| seb128 | ? | 06:26 |
| seb128 | no composite you mean? | 06:26 |
| jdong | the drivers do not support AIGLX | 06:26 |
| jdong | no composite, too | 06:26 |
| jdong | glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap | 06:26 |
| mjg59 | The drivers do support aiglx | 06:26 |
| mjg59 | They don't support glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap | 06:26 |
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| jdong | seb128: and for most desktop effects, Xgl is actually faster/smoother. Many nvidia MX440 users I know choose Xgl | 06:26 |
| jdong | because effects are markedly smoother. | 06:27 |
| jdong | especially full screen video textures | 06:27 |
| mjg59 | It's still not trivially supportable | 06:27 |
| angasule | of course, MX440 and the like should die as soon as possible... | 06:27 |
| jdong | mjg59: at least it should not be totally borken in feisty | 06:27 |
| jdong | :( | 06:27 |
| jdong | mjg59: please? | 06:27 |
| seb128 | fglrx and aiglx work fine on my desktop | 06:28 |
| jdong | I'm on my knees and begging about this | 06:28 |
| jdong | seb128: WHAT? | 06:28 |
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| seb128 | there is no composite, out of that it works fine | 06:28 |
| jdong | seb128: how do you have AIGLX??? | 06:28 |
| seb128 | install feisty | 06:28 |
| jdong | seb128: I am on feisty. | 06:28 |
| mjg59 | jdong: aiglx isn't difficult. It's just not what you want. | 06:28 |
| seb128 | use restricted-manager and click ati | 06:28 |
| jdong | seb128: you cannot start beryl/compiz | 06:29 |
| seb128 | no, there is no composite | 06:29 |
| jdong | seb128: no glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap | 06:29 |
| jdong | that's what matters at the end of the day. | 06:29 |
| seb128 | I'll patch compiz with the no-tfp patch | 06:29 |
| mjg59 | jdong: AIGLX does not mean what you think it means | 06:29 |
| jdong | mjg59: hmm ok | 06:29 |
| jdong | seb128: cool, analogous to Beryl's "Copy" mode? | 06:29 |
| mjg59 | seb128: Is that useful without composite? | 06:29 |
| jdong | seb128: it still needs Composite, no? | 06:29 |
| seb128 | mjg59: it makes it work when glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap is not available | 06:30 |
| mjg59 | If not, I wouldn't bother | 06:30 |
| jdong | seb128: that still requires composite to work right? | 06:30 |
| mjg59 | seb128: glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap is available on all the systems we support | 06:30 |
| seb128 | jdong: I don't know much about beryl | 06:30 |
| seb128 | mjg59: it's not with fglrx | 06:30 |
| mjg59 | seb128: But fglrx doesn't support composite when 3D is enabled | 06:30 |
| jdong | seb128: and compiz works on fglrx with that patch? | 06:30 |
| mjg59 | So you can't run compiz | 06:30 |
| seb128 | hum | 06:30 |
| jdong | seb128: DRI acceleration and Composite are mutually exclusive in fglrx | 06:30 |
| jdong | turn on one and the other is forced off | 06:31 |
| seb128 | Nicolas who works on compiz and sent me the patch told me it makes compiz work with fglrx | 06:31 |
| seb128 | I need to try | 06:31 |
| jdong | seb128: hum, I'd love to hear if that works | 06:31 |
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| Skorgu|Work | Is this the right place to ask a packaging question (about my own package, not an ubuntu one)? | 06:34 |
| jdong | nope.... | 06:34 |
| jdong | -motu at best | 06:34 |
| Skorgu|Work | thanks | 06:34 |
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| keescook | geser: have you got any time to snag gnupg2's 2.0.3 release? I need to backport that to edgy too, but it seems they only released patches for gpg and gpgme. I suspect it'll be close to the gpg patch. | 06:47 |
| geser | keescook: I've packages ready for 2.0.3 but not a separated patch for it | 06:49 |
| geser | the diff between 2.0.2 and 2.0.3 isn't that large | 06:50 |
| keescook | geser: cool, I can do the edgy patch. do you have a UVFe open for 2.0.3? That should be pretty easy to get approved, and then I can upload it for you. | 06:51 |
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| geser | I've send a mail to tfheen and cjwatson but not opened a bug for it | 06:52 |
| geser | keescook: but you can find it on http://members.ping.de/~mb/gnupg2/ | 06:52 |
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| keescook | geser: great, thanks! | 06:52 |
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| sistpoty | tfheen: did ubuntu-archive come to a decision about removing binary packages of unsupportable software yet? | 06:55 |
| jdong | wait, before Xgl goes, can I make a eulogy? | 06:57 |
| jdong | meh I still need to write one up | 06:58 |
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| cjwatson | ogra: the first bit of the output from debconf-communicate will be something other than "0" if the question doesn't exist | 07:16 |
| ogra | yeah | 07:17 |
| ogra | i got it fixed | 07:17 |
| cjwatson | ogra: is there a reason you can't just . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule and do if db_get xserver-xorg/config/inputdevice/keyboard/layout; then KMAP="$RET"; else KMAP=; fi ? | 07:17 |
| cjwatson | (there might be such a reason - just wondering) | 07:17 |
| ogra | no, there is none ... | 07:17 |
| ogra | i was just lazy copying the other preseed code we use in the initscript for setting preseed values | 07:18 |
| cjwatson | hmm, I don't think it's a good idea for an initscript to load debconf | 07:19 |
| angasule | is this the place to discuss versions of included libraries and general game support or not? | 07:19 |
| cjwatson | better to do that in a maintainer script | 07:19 |
| ogra | well, the ltsp-client initscript needs to preseed the X values if they are set in lts.conf ... | 07:20 |
| ogra | we use it like that since the first release | 07:20 |
| ogra | the current code i'm working on is rather to preseed the chroot values from the server during chroot build ... | 07:21 |
| jdong_ | noooooooo my ghost died | 07:21 |
| ogra | your code looks a lot better than mine, so i'll use it ;) | 07:21 |
| cjwatson | ok | 07:21 |
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| mmax | hi, I'm running edgy with edgy-backports actived and there is a problem with a package from backports, is it the good place to speak about that and to expose the problem? | 07:22 |
| pochu | mmax: from what repository? | 07:23 |
| mmax | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main | 07:24 |
| jdong_ | mmax, that's not backports, that's edgy-updates | 07:24 |
| jdong_ | but yeah, this can be a good place to discuss issues | 07:25 |
| mmax | sorry | 07:25 |
| mmax | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main | 07:25 |
| jdong_ | ok, that's me. | 07:25 |
| mmax | past/copy error ;) | 07:25 |
| jdong_ | what's up? | 07:25 |
| mmax | I have done an upgrade and libgphoto2-2 version 2.3 has been installed from backports | 07:26 |
| mmax | there is a problem (not critical) with the udev rules generated by the postinstall script of this package | 07:26 |
| mmax | the rules are created for udev >=0.98 but edgy provides 0.93, so at booting I saw lots of these two error messages repeated many times: | 07:26 |
| mmax | add_to_rules: unknown key 'ATTRS{idVendor}' | 07:26 |
| mmax | add_to_rules: unknown key 'ATTRS{idProduct}' | 07:27 |
| jdong_ | lovely... | 07:27 |
| mmax | so I manually replace ATTRS by former SYSFS in this rules file | 07:27 |
| jdong_ | that wasn't an issue when the backport was initially approved | 07:27 |
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| mmax | the line in the post-install script is: | 07:27 |
| jdong_ | but yeah, I will after class prepare an upload that fixes the issue | 07:27 |
| jdong_ | cjwatson, you ok with sponsoring a fix to mmax's bug? | 07:28 |
| mmax | print-camera-list udev-rules-0.98 mode 0660 group plugdev etc. | 07:28 |
| cjwatson | jdong_: sure | 07:28 |
| jdong_ | (s/ATTRS/SYSFS/) | 07:28 |
| cjwatson | mail me a debdiff | 07:28 |
| mmax | and should replace udev-rules-0.98 argument by udev-rules in order to generate rules for udev < 0.98 | 07:28 |
| jdong_ | cjwatson, should I prepare a debdiff or is it trivial enough that you can handle it? | 07:28 |
| cjwatson | jdong_: I'd rather you did it and tested it and such, I'm kinda swamped | 07:28 |
| mmax | or another solution would be to get udev version with udevinfo, and the script woulb be compatible with any version of udev | 07:28 |
| jdong_ | cjwatson, yeah sure | 07:29 |
| jdong_ | mmax, well fixing the package is an easier way | 07:29 |
| jdong_ | mmax, I've filed bug 90905 against gphoto, I will prepare a fix in about 1:30h | 07:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90905 in libgphoto2 "Should depend on newer udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90905 | 07:30 |
| jdong_ | mmax, thanks for letting me know | 07:31 |
| sistpoty | can we sync from debian/testing as well? | 07:31 |
| mmax | ok | 07:31 |
| cjwatson | sistpoty: yes | 07:31 |
| sistpoty | greate! | 07:31 |
| sistpoty | -e | 07:31 |
| mmax | thanks to have listening to me | 07:31 |
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| dadi | besoin d'info sur la construction de paquets de lib et lib-dev | 07:35 |
| pochu | dadi: tu veux #ubuntu-fr :) | 07:36 |
| dadi | scuze merci | 07:36 |
| pochu | de rien | 07:36 |
| jdong_ | pochu, you hablo jamaican? | 07:37 |
| jdong_ | didnt' know that! | 07:37 |
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| pochu | jdong_: jajaja | 07:42 |
| pochu | :) | 07:42 |
| jdong_ | pochu, ey manne! | 07:42 |
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| keescook | geser: if you make a bug for UVFe on gnupg2, I can upload it when it's been +1'd. I've got it built and ready for upload. :) | 08:06 |
| geser | is it bug + mail or only mail to get an UVF exception in main? | 08:07 |
| keescook | geser: I've always just done bugs, but I haven't done that many... | 08:08 |
| keescook | I figure a bug is better in case other people want the same UVFe. :) | 08:08 |
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| EtienneG | hey guys | 08:17 |
| EtienneG | I would need a sponsor for bzr/bzrtools | 08:17 |
| EtienneG | I also have bzr-gtk, but I can ask a MOTU for that one | 08:17 |
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| lamont | sigh. ENODOKO | 08:51 |
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| dholbach | have a nice evening everybody! see you next week! | 09:02 |
| kylem | take care, dholbach | 09:02 |
| dholbach | kylem: you too :-) | 09:02 |
| bddebian | Later dholbach | 09:02 |
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| dholbach | bye bddebian | 09:02 |
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| jdong | cjwatson: I've attached the debdiff onto bug 90724 | 09:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 90724 in libgphoto2 "March 8 2007 updates caused EPSOn CX6400 to not be recognised" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90724 | 09:34 |
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| wick2o | evening | 10:38 |
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| cjwatson | jdong: please do mail me a note at least, otherwise I'm guaranteed to forget | 10:46 |
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| jdong | cjwatson: ok, sure | 10:50 |
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| tepsipakki | uh, lp doesn't allow to close old bugs which are marked for xserver-xorg-driver-* if xorg is already marked for that bug | 11:19 |
| tepsipakki | since it would rename the component to xorg which it can't do | 11:19 |
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| greff | Hello. If any package maintainer / developer here has enough free time to manage a few new packages, then can he/she please look into adding pam_cups and pam_script into the Ubuntu repositories? | 11:30 |
| jdong | greff: -motu, better luck there | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | we're also a fair ways past NewPackageFreeze (or whateve we're calling it) | 11:31 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: NewPackagesFreezeUnivere, in fact. | 11:31 |
| Fujitsu | greff: You'll likely have to wait until after April. | 11:32 |
| jdong | ha, the new package police is out in full patrol! | 11:32 |
| jdong | testing alarm system.... fglrx. x264. mencoder. xgl. beryl. | 11:32 |
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| jdong | lol | 11:33 |
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| Fujitsu | Beryl! Attack! | 11:33 |
| jdong | Do a beryl roll! | 11:33 |
| jdong | wow, that was a bad pun. | 11:33 |
| bhale | ugh beryl | 11:33 |
| mdke | elmo: any progress on the screencasts.u.c request? | 11:40 |
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| cjwatson | jdong: still around? | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | jdong: I don't think that fix is right - there are other keys to change | 11:49 |
| jdong | cjwatson: oh, there are? | 11:49 |
| mdke | does anyone's ipods work? Or is it just me? | 11:50 |
| cjwatson | jdong: can I suggest instead changing udev-rules-0.98 to udev-rules in debian/libgphoto2-2.postinst? | 11:50 |
| jdong | mdke: mine works fine. | 11:50 |
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| cjwatson | that seems to be the "approved" method | 11:50 |
| mdke | jdong: aha. I'll go to lp then | 11:50 |
| mdke | ty | 11:50 |
| jdong | cjwatson: hmm, I'm really a clueless one when it comes to udev and friends | 11:51 |
| cjwatson | jdong: would be nice to try it out on an edgy-backports system ... | 11:51 |
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| cjwatson | sudo sh -c '/usr/lib/libgphoto2/print-camera-list udev-rules mode 0660 group plugdev > /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules' | 11:51 |
| jdong | cjwatson: yeah; I was under the impression that line caused the problems | 11:52 |
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| cjwatson | jdong: right, but before it was "udev-rules-0.98" not "udev-rules" | 11:52 |
| jdong | and I grepped for ATTRS and that was all that came up code-wise | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | if you read the source for print-camera-list, it has switchability built in | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | you just need to call it with a different argument and you'll get SYSFS instead of ATTRS and BUS instead of SUBSYSTEM | 11:52 |
| jdong | cjwatson: oh, oops, how embarrasing :) | 11:53 |
| jdong | cjwatson: one general concern regarding this kind of situation.... if on a backports request I approve a particular version, will archive be able to process that version? | 11:53 |
| jdong | cjwatson: this situation only happened because the backport was processed some month after it was approved | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | sorry, what do you mean? | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | ah | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | um, can be difficult, the tool can only backport from whatever's current in a suite | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | s/suite/distrorelease/ | 11:54 |
| jdong | hmm | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | best fix is really just for us to be better about processing them quickly | 11:54 |
| jdong | the unpredictable archive turnaround time is a plaguing issue :( | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | or possibly to add intelligence to the tool to let us specify a version so that it will fail if there's a mismatch | 11:55 |
| crimsun | elmo: is the affected laptop in LP #88332 running the latest BIOS revision? | 11:55 |
| cjwatson | jdong: how about http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/90724.diff ? | 11:55 |
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| jdong | cjwatson: yeah, a quick test-run on my feisty box does confirm that command generates SYSFS{} rules | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | jdong: I've diffed the rules output and it looks sensible | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | righto, I'll go with that then | 12:00 |
| jdong | cjwatson: yeah, awesome :) | 12:00 |
| cjwatson | ok, should build RSN | 12:02 |
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| cjwatson | jdong: off to bed now, if it breaks shout and either I'll look at it at some point tomorrow or somebody will beat me to it | 12:05 |
| jdong | cjwatson: haha, ok, hopefully that closes off This Month in Backports :D | 12:05 |
| greff | Can dh_make handle zip source archives? | 12:06 |
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