vajk | how are you guys doing ? | 12:29 |
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nalioth | vajk: were you looking for #ubuntu-ops ? | 12:31 |
vajk | :) | 12:31 |
vajk | just looking around | 12:31 |
vajk | have a good one | 12:36 |
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QMario | ??? | 12:46 |
QMario | Odd.. | 12:46 |
nalioth | QMario: have a nice nap? | 12:46 |
QMario | Hee hee hee... | 12:46 |
QMario | Hello nalioth!!! :) | 12:47 |
nalioth | i've been sending you /msgs | 12:47 |
QMario | I was just commenting on vajk. | 12:47 |
QMario | Really? | 12:47 |
QMario | My compuer was probably suspended. | 12:47 |
nalioth | for months? | 12:47 |
QMario | No. | 12:48 |
QMario | I have been really busy. | 12:48 |
nalioth | so i figured :) | 12:48 |
QMario | I did not received anything from you nalioth... | 12:48 |
nalioth | it's been a few weeks | 12:48 |
nalioth | i sent a few /msgs and never got a response, so i stopped. | 12:49 |
QMario | Sorry. | 12:49 |
nalioth | figured you were on vacation and had left your computer on | 12:49 |
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GenieHost | hi every body | 01:27 |
GenieHost | any body home? | 01:27 |
PriceChild | Hey there | 01:27 |
GenieHost | hi man | 01:27 |
PriceChild | How can we help? :) | 01:27 |
GenieHost | I would like to ask sly question | 01:28 |
GenieHost | I got ubuntu 6.10 now | 01:28 |
GenieHost | how to upgrade it to 7.04 ? | 01:28 |
PriceChild | GenieHost, #ubuntu-ops isn't for support | 01:28 |
PriceChild | !upgrade > GenieHost | 01:28 |
GenieHost | ? | 01:29 |
GenieHost | sorry then | 01:29 |
PriceChild | Please see the private message from ubotu. | 01:29 |
GenieHost | bye bye | 01:29 |
PriceChild | It contains a link to the upgrades page | 01:29 |
PriceChild | GenieHost, #ubuntu+1 for support on feisty. | 01:29 |
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ubotu | In ubotu, GenieHost said: what is the different version of ubuntu? | 01:35 |
PriceChild | !bot > GenieHost | 01:37 |
Vorian | hehe | 01:47 |
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PriceChild | !tor > lonelystar (please see the PM from ubotu) | 02:05 |
nalioth | PriceChild: how many times are you gonna do that? he's gotten FOUR of those so far (that i've counted) | 02:06 |
PriceChild | As many times as it takes lol? | 02:06 |
nalioth | PriceChild: he's on AUTO JOIN | 02:07 |
PriceChild | I won't send it to him again then promise. | 02:07 |
nalioth | PriceChild: have you thought that /msg ubotu tell NICK about FACTOID could be scripted and you could spam EVERY gateway user that joins here that way? | 02:08 |
LjL | not on konversation... | 02:08 |
LjL | not if i wanted to restrict it to this channel anyway | 02:09 |
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effie_jayx | hey guys | 04:29 |
effie_jayx | jenda, are you around buddy? | 04:29 |
effie_jayx | Just a simple question | 04:29 |
effie_jayx | when I say #ubuntu-offtopic ... what comes to mind? | 04:29 |
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ubotu | In #ubuntu, satori101 said: !ask why is my laptop with 3945ABG wifi chip dropping packets with edgy eft? | 04:31 |
beuno | effie_jayx: jenda doesn't seem to be around :D | 04:31 |
effie_jayx | beuno, could you answer for me :D | 04:32 |
beuno | well, offtopic chitter chatter :p | 04:33 |
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nalioth | effie_jayx: is there a problem? | 04:39 |
effie_jayx | nalioth, no... just trying to teach my friend carlitos-ve from my channel the kinda responsibility you take when you open a offtopic channel | 04:40 |
effie_jayx | he wants to open one and recently proposed one in a team meeting... but he hasn't a clue on the things that happen in the ubuntu-offtopic channel... | 04:42 |
effie_jayx | :S | 04:42 |
effie_jayx | :D | 04:42 |
beuno | aah, heh | 04:42 |
beuno | yeah, offtopic doesn't mean random insulting and spam | 04:42 |
beuno | altough I can see why some people would think that | 04:43 |
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pierce | are there any nice aps for dealing with my rc scripts? | 05:22 |
pierce | hmm, strange | 05:22 |
pierce | sorry about that, I was trying to join #ubuntu and didn't notice the redirect :-/ | 05:23 |
elkbuntu | pierce, /msg ubotu !tor | 05:25 |
pierce | just gave current package information about tor :-) | 05:26 |
nalioth | !tell pierce about proxy | 05:27 |
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elkbuntu | ah right :-/ | 05:28 |
pierce | im on a public wireless network, and freenode doesn't support ssl :-/ | 05:28 |
elkbuntu | pierce, then take note of the part that mentions the unaffiliated cloak | 05:29 |
pierce | oke, thanks | 05:29 |
nalioth | pierce: if you do this often, consider using gpg-tor | 05:33 |
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nalioth | trolls, hip deep | 09:12 |
nalioth | got the most nasty of 'em | 09:13 |
elkbuntu | i missed the fun again? | 09:16 |
Hobbsee | yep | 09:18 |
elkbuntu | is ubuntu-anon one of them? | 09:21 |
nalioth | he was | 09:22 |
nalioth | where is he? | 09:22 |
nalioth | don't kick him | 09:22 |
nalioth | just tell me | 09:22 |
elkbuntu | was in -offtopic, just nuked him | 09:22 |
elkbuntu | sorry.. i saw you saying too late :( | 09:22 |
elkbuntu | you were 6 seconds too late | 09:23 |
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tarzan | hi | 09:41 |
nalioth | hi tarzan | 09:42 |
elkbuntu | hey tarzan, if you're wondering why you're here, type /msg ubotu proxy | 09:42 |
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tarzan | ? | 09:42 |
Seveas | !tor | 09:42 |
ubotu | The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 09:42 |
ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 09:42 |
tarzan | ? | 09:43 |
nalioth | tarzan: this is not #ubuntu | 09:43 |
tarzan | oh | 09:43 |
tarzan | so what is this? | 09:44 |
nalioth | tarzan: read what ubotu just said | 09:44 |
tarzan | i did | 09:44 |
Hobbsee | tarzan: then type /topic and read it | 09:45 |
Seveas | @pity Hobbsee | 09:45 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 09:45 |
Hobbsee | @lart Seveas | 09:45 |
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Hobbsee | blerg | 09:45 |
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Seveas | @reload Lart | 09:49 |
Seveas | @load Lart | 09:49 |
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tarzan | so we can not talk about ubuntu in here? | 09:52 |
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Hobbsee | tarzan: this is not a support channel. | 09:52 |
_grusomhat | How come I keep ending up in this channel | 09:52 |
Madpilot | _grusomhat, because cgi-irc is banned from #ubuntu | 09:53 |
_grusomhat | Oh grrr | 09:53 |
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Hobbsee | _grusomhat: you need an exception from nalioth or another staffer. changing your nick wont help you. | 09:54 |
tarzan | this sucks | 09:54 |
asdfghjkl | boo! | 09:54 |
asdfghjkl | yup, cgi:irc is still ugl | 09:54 |
asdfghjkl | y | 09:54 |
Madpilot | tarzan, you can still be anonymous and get into #ubuntu... just not with tor. or web-cgi | 09:54 |
tarzan | no thx | 09:55 |
tarzan | there is no other way to be anonymous than with tor | 09:55 |
Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 09:55 |
Seveas | !tor | 09:55 |
ubotu | The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 09:55 |
ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 09:55 |
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Seveas | <ubotu> Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. | 09:55 |
Seveas | <ubotu> Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. | 09:55 |
nalioth | tarzan: try gpg-tor http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml | 09:55 |
Seveas | <ubotu> Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. | 09:55 |
Seveas | READ | 09:55 |
tarzan | i read that | 09:56 |
tarzan | what a bullshit | 09:56 |
tarzan | they claim to be unix experts | 09:56 |
tarzan | lol | 09:56 |
tarzan | all they say is that people use unencrypted connections | 09:56 |
tarzan | of course these are idiots that don't know how tor works | 09:56 |
nalioth | tarzan: this is not a social channel. gpg-tor users are welcome in #ubuntu | 09:56 |
tarzan | i already read. thats what i just said | 09:56 |
tarzan | gpg-tor ? | 09:57 |
nalioth | tarzan: i pasted a link to you | 09:57 |
tarzan | will take a look | 09:57 |
mneptok | tarzan: anyone determined enough can peel the onion | 09:58 |
tarzan | mneptop | 09:59 |
tarzan | no | 09:59 |
mneptok | tarzan: yes. | 10:00 |
tarzan | thx for the link | 10:00 |
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Seveas | mneptok, don't assume clue :) | 10:00 |
mneptok | tarzan: i'm not going to get into a long debate, but i assure you i know my Unix and how TOR works | 10:00 |
mneptok | ah well | 10:00 |
Madpilot | anyone with a username of 'dude' quite likely has a short supply of clue... | 10:01 |
mneptok | he knows how TOR works, its implications for IRC, and is a Unix expert. | 10:01 |
mneptok | now all he needs is to discover tab auto completion | 10:02 |
mneptok | ;) | 10:02 |
Madpilot | Seveas, could we get ubotu back into #ubuntu-ca? It was present there at one point, but wandered off... thanks. | 10:05 |
nalioth | Madpilot: will any ubot* do? | 10:06 |
Madpilot | nalioth, sure. Got an underemployed botclone? | 10:06 |
nalioth | i do | 10:06 |
Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 10:07 |
nalioth | Madpilot: will that work? | 10:07 |
Madpilot | nalioth, already working. Thanks. | 10:07 |
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DF3 | Hi, Is there a way to install gnome on an Ubuntu Serve 6.10 installation? | 11:23 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | !tell DF3 about proxy | 11:24 |
Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 11:24 |
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Menasim1 | I want to install cvs | 04:34 |
PriceChild | !proxy > Menasim1 (This is NOT #ubuntu . Please see the PM from ubotu) | 04:35 |
ubotu | I'll remember that, PriceChild | 04:35 |
PriceChild | argh!!! | 04:35 |
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PriceChild | Menasim1, This isn't #ubuntu You've been forwarded out of the channel as you are using a web gateway. Is it not possible for you to connect using "regular" irc? | 04:35 |
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PriceChild | Menasim1, and doesn't "sudo apt-get install cvs" work? | 04:36 |
PriceChild | Seveas, seems like the factoid wasn't changed above... but wierd response? | 04:38 |
Seveas | PriceChild, it added a factoid | 04:39 |
Seveas | named proy > Menasim (This | 04:39 |
PriceChild | ahh... so don't use "is" inside the (/)'s ? | 04:40 |
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popey | whats the reason cgi:irc's aren't allowed in #ubuntu? | 04:46 |
popey | to stop the tards? | 04:46 |
Myrtti | yeah | 04:46 |
popey | shame | 04:46 |
popey | its handy for some people | 04:46 |
mc44 | you can still get in if you cloak | 04:47 |
Seveas | yeah, for tards | 04:47 |
PriceChild | tunnels ftw | 04:47 |
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popey | sure, but your average n00b isn't going to have a hope with a tunnel | 04:50 |
popey | (tunnels indeed ftw) | 04:50 |
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PriceChild | popey, Your average n00b shouldn't have to resort to cgi::irc | 04:52 |
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popey | PriceChild: at work? | 04:53 |
PriceChild | Well then they should be working ;) | 04:53 |
popey | if they cant get online at home, they might try to use irc at work | 04:53 |
popey | hmm | 04:53 |
popey | i dont think its unreasonable | 04:53 |
popey | maybe an ubuntu official cgiirc? | 04:54 |
popey | which requires your launchpad ID to use.. | 04:54 |
popey | and is restricted to use only freenode and only #ubuntu-* channels | 04:54 |
popey | oh and | 04:54 |
PriceChild | n00bs with launchpad accounts? | 04:54 |
popey | #kubuntu etc of course as well ;) | 04:54 |
popey | it would force them to register | 04:54 |
popey | which would make it easier for them to report bugs, support tickets and so on | 04:55 |
popey | I suspect one reason the forums get a metric tonne of traffic is because http is easy for people to access at home/work | 04:56 |
popey | aside from all the other reasons people use forums - familiarity and number of users etc | 04:56 |
popey | existing content and so on | 04:56 |
popey | At every customer I go to, I see people during their idle time using forums | 04:56 |
popey | whether its tv-programmes, cars or Ubuntu they are discussing, people like using http at work | 04:57 |
maxamillion | PriceChild: noobs are everywhere and can not be avoided ... even on LP :( | 04:58 |
popey | yeah, but putting minor barriers in place (as the forums do) such as registration with an email account will help stop the drive-by tards | 04:58 |
PriceChild | We've had to enable admin activation on new accouts too because of trolls :( | 05:01 |
popey | really? since whan? | 05:01 |
popey | er, when | 05:01 |
PriceChild | few days ago, may have turned it off since | 05:01 |
popey | thats a bummer | 05:02 |
popey | extra stumbling blocks for genuine users :( | 05:02 |
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LjL | have you ever seen *one* real user from 83.230? | 06:52 |
nalioth | not I | 06:52 |
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LjL | either they join and part in ten seconds' time, or they join two clones and start saying ola to each other | 06:54 |
LjL | that's all i've ever seen them do, and they're amazingly persistent at it | 06:54 |
LjL | pricechild: what *has* happened to the automatix server anyway, just out of curiosity? | 06:59 |
PriceChild | Well first it was the storm at their hosting | 07:00 |
PriceChild | they came back up... and were promptly hacked | 07:00 |
LjL | hah | 07:00 |
PriceChild | From the sounds of it arnieboy didn't keep backups | 07:00 |
PriceChild | Quote: | 07:00 |
LjL | unsurprising *g* | 07:00 |
PriceChild | "The Automatix server has been hacked and everything wiped out. This was the cause of the recent downtime. Resurrecting automatix from here is a huge task and as Team Lead I cannot promise anything from here.. I will see what I can do" | 07:01 |
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ubotu | In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubotu, gnomereset is <reply>To delete your gnome configuration and start with a fresh one, log into a failsafe session and run 'cd ; mkdir gnomeconf-backup ; mv .gconf* .gnome* gnomeconf-backup'. | 07:05 |
LjL | ew | 07:06 |
apokryphos | that is not gonna work ;-) | 07:06 |
nalioth | zombies. . . | 07:07 |
apokryphos | still, highlights how bad configuration organisation is in gnome | 07:07 |
apokryphos | what do you do in kde? mv ~/.kde{,_old} | 07:08 |
LjL | well | 07:08 |
LjL | save things like the fact that i'm not sure everyone considers, say, Konversation logs part of their "configuration". but anyway | 07:09 |
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apokryphos | LjL: no-one says .kde is *just* for configuration | 07:10 |
apokryphos | ~/.kde/share/config is | 07:10 |
Seveas | PriceChild, you tease! | 07:18 |
PriceChild | Seveas, ? | 07:23 |
nalioth | PriceChild: your news of automatix | 07:28 |
PriceChild | ah ok.... I got confused because when calling someone a tease to me it means that they're giving you something but holding the juicy bits back. | 07:29 |
nalioth | PriceChild: right, you are holding the juicy bits back | 07:31 |
PriceChild | erm..... someone's release a "fix" for it? | 07:31 |
PriceChild | :) | 07:31 |
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nalioth | open wide, PriceChild | 07:34 |
nalioth | what a nasty thing to say | 07:35 |
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nalioth | mc44: your mother never washed your mouth out with soap? | 07:36 |
mc44 | Oh. Mouth. Right. | 07:36 |
mc44 | ahem | 07:36 |
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tonyyarusso | nalioth: actually don't know anyone who's done that | 07:37 |
nalioth | tonyyarusso: my mom did. | 07:38 |
tonyyarusso | sad | 07:39 |
mc44 | I liked the taste of soap | 07:39 |
nalioth | not really | 07:39 |
nalioth | it did create a lasting lesson | 07:39 |
Seveas | "buy better tasting sope" | 07:42 |
Seveas | chocolate flavoured soap | 07:42 |
Seveas | or strawberry | 07:43 |
mc44 | Or just shower with chocolate sause | 07:43 |
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PriceChild | <arnieboy> an official update: The Automatix repositories are up again (so automatix is working again) .. We are working on bringing the wiki and forums back up | 09:26 |
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Seveas | @lart PriceChild | 09:29 |
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PriceChild | Don't drop the messenger from a great height! | 09:29 |
Seveas | @lart PriceChild | 09:30 |
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Seveas | @lart PriceChild | 09:30 |
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gnomefreak | Seveas: you around by chance? | 10:40 |
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gnomefreak | i have one of his bans/mutes in pm. not 20 seconds after i logged back on :( | 10:43 |
gnomefreak | ill be right back but let him know miyako wants to talk to him i cant figure this out | 10:45 |
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gnomefreak | ok much better | 10:46 |
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gnomefreak | Seveas: if your back miyako wants his ban/mute lifted (i have to go do a few personal things) | 11:09 |
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