[12:01] <mentaluproar> dark, thats my other problem!  lol
[12:01] <toNt> jowi: i did the apt-get nvidiaglx but when i type klxinfo, i get a bunch of "Extension "GLX" is missing on display :0.0".
[12:01] <toNt> Jowi: thoughts?
[12:01] <Anohaakten> Ill try that PirateHead
[12:01] <PirateHead> Anohaakten: Amarok has some features that even iTunes doens't have. The only thing it doesn't have is 100% compatability with iPods.
[12:01] <toNt> klxinfo = glxinfo
[12:01] <dark-nite> lol
[12:01] <Anohaakten> PirateHead, ahh ok cool
[12:02] <mentaluproar> broadcom chipset, right?  dang
[12:02] <cafuego_> toNt: Enable the nvidia driver, as well as installing it.
[12:02] <Flannel> mentaluproar: then no, you don't have LVM.  Just install gparted, then you'll be able to take a gander
[12:02] <Jowi> toNt, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver" what do you get appart from kbd and mouse?
[12:02] <dimeotane> anyone know how to set, firefox to open skype?  I think i need to set mime types ?
[12:02] <mentaluproar> one moment
[12:02] <dark-nite> :(
[12:02] <eck> Anohaakten: tbh, if i had windows/os x and an ipod, I would just keep that around for the time being just to use itunes
[12:02] <Anohaakten> PirateHead can I get Amarok right in synaptic? or do I have to go find a .deb somewhere
[12:03] <Jowi> dark-nite, did you have a look at the wiki already?
[12:03] <Anohaakten> yeah
[12:03] <dark-nite> ubuntu needs to make a nice GUI to connect through wireless devices!!! grrrrr!
[12:03] <Anohaakten> I am dual booting vista eck
[12:03] <dimeotane> dark-nite: what  wifi do you have?
[12:03] <jrib> dimeotane: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol possibly?
[12:03] <Anohaakten> so I can just keep that itunes on that
[12:03] <dark-nite> Jowi,  yeah i did
[12:03] <dimeotane> thx jrib
[12:03] <toNt> Jowi: i get some wacom drivers and an "nv" driver.should i change that to "nvidia"?
[12:03] <dark-nite> im having trouble :(
[12:03] <cafuego_> dark-nite: Um, nm-applet *is* a nice gui to connect wireless networks.
[12:03] <jrib> dimeotane: heh even better: http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2006/08/making_skype_links_work.html
[12:03] <Jowi> dark-nite, it do. it is called "network-manager-gnome". install it.
[12:04] <toNt> is anyone else having trouble getting on ubuntuguide.org?
[12:04] <dimeotane> dark-nite: type in lspci into your terminal... what's your network controller?
[12:04] <mentaluproar> ok, add/remove doesn't pull up gparted
[12:04] <mentaluproar> help
[12:04] <dark-nite> Jowi, how can i install if i can't connnect to the internet? lol
[12:04] <Jowi> toNt, nv is the standard nvidia drivers. as cafuego said, you need to enable it.
[12:04] <dimeotane> for me it says broadcom 4311
[12:04] <stiv2k> help i am getting an "Operation not supported" ioctl when testing my wpa_supplicant configuration and i just cant seem to connect using hostap driver on a linksys pci card
[12:04] <Jowi> dark-nite, it's on the cd
[12:04] <Jowi> !info network-manager-gnome
[12:04] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[12:04] <dimeotane> dark-nite.. you can also plug into your ethernet
[12:04] <toNt> ill try to google on how to do that but i might be back :)
[12:04] <toNt> thank you
[12:05] <Jowi> dark-nite, you don't need internet to connect it. pop in the cd
[12:05] <dark-nite> dimeo, i would but i dont have a ethernet wire long enough. :P
[12:05] <PirateHead> dark-note: do you have WinXP drivers for your card?
[12:05] <PirateHead> dark-nite: you may be able to use ndiswrapper to get a win driver working
[12:06] <dark-nite> pirate, i dont no how to install ndiswrapper
[12:06] <Flannel> dark-nite: Put the CD in the drive, use "apt-cdrom" to add it to your repository, then you can install ndiswrapper off the CD
[12:06] <mentaluproar> I cant find gparted
[12:07] <PirateHead> darn-nite: intalling ndiswrapper takes only 1 command
[12:07] <dark-nite> apt-cdrom?
[12:07] <Flannel> dark-nite: yeah, apt-cdrom.  It adds CDroms to your repository list
[12:07] <alberto> Hi, I am using kubuntu edgy in a Toshiba satellite with latest nvidia drivers from site, but...
[12:07] <caffinated> Jowi: that worked - setting the framebuffer to the same resolution/color depth.  it's interesting that disabling the framebuffer didn't work though.
[12:07] <stiv2k> help i am getting an "Operation not supported" ioctl when testing my wpa_supplicant configuration and i just cant seem to connect using hostap driver on a linksys pci card
[12:07] <Flannel> mentaluproar: where are you looking?  Synaptic?
[12:07] <stiv2k> it times out trying to get a DHCP ip address
[12:07] <dark-nite> on the cd ndiswrapper is in another folder though
[12:07] <caffinated> Jowi: probably some ATI quirkiness
[12:07] <mentaluproar> I tried add/remove programs
[12:08] <Flannel> dark-nite: It's in a repository, yes.
[12:08] <PirateHead> why apt-cdrom?
[12:08] <Jowi> caffinated, yeah, depends on which video card you have. back in the old days all cards had proper vesa modes. nowadays it's guesswork.
[12:08] <PirateHead> do you have ndiswrapper on a CD?
[12:08] <Flannel> PirateHead: because he needs to add the CD to his repository
[12:08] <Flannel> PirateHead: both Desktop, and Alternate CDs have it on them
[12:08] <dark-nite> i downloaded ndiswrapper on another computer (win xp) and burnt in on a cd
[12:08] <toNt> im reading on how to install the nvidia drivers, but it says to do this, sudo nvidia-glx-config-enable , but i get "nvidia-glx-config-enable" command not found. is this a typo or something?
[12:08] <Jowi> caffinated, that's why the framebuffer is used in replacement for the oldschool vesa modes.
[12:08] <PirateHead> Flannel: that's cool.
[12:08] <Flannel> dark-nite: that's silly.  Use your Ubuntu CD
[12:08] <mentaluproar> found in synaptic
[12:09] <caffinated> Jowi: Never had the issue with nVidia cards.  But I've noticed some posts specificly relating to newer ATI video hardware and some issues.  I imagine it'll stablize in time.
[12:09] <alberto> Hi, I am using kubuntu edgy in a Toshiba satellite with latest nvidia drivers from site, but... When I tried to launch glxgear I hasnt direct rendering, I looked in a log from xorg and saw that there was a problem between composite and glx module so I disabled composite and then glx is loaded and direct rendering but is VERY slow, like without it, I can see this too in the var/log/Xorg.0 : (II)NVIDIA: 3D ACCELERATION ARCHITECGTURE 
[12:09] <dark-nite> i didn't no i was on my unbuntu cd
[12:09] <mentaluproar> I'm going to get a hub to I can wire everything together
[12:09] <alberto> Is known this problem:? PLEASE
[12:09] <mentaluproar> I'll brb.
[12:09] <dark-nite> ok so i put my unbuntu cd in the drive. then what do i need to do?
[12:09] <cheeseboy> hi
[12:09] <arrenlex> alberto: Please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:09] <arrenlex> !pastebin | alberto
[12:09] <ubotu> alberto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <mentaluproar> my next problem may be a bit bitter, broadcom without ndiswrapper using the reverse engineered method
[12:09] <cheeseboy> can anyone help me?
[12:09] <mentaluproar> brb
[12:09] <Agrajag> !ask
[12:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:09] <cheeseboy> stuff isnt showing up on my taskbar
[12:09] <Flannel> dark-nite: open a terminal, (accessories > terminal)  "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[12:09] <PirateHead> dark-nite: it should come up with a thing saying "this thing has a repository on it! omg!"
[12:09] <Jowi> dark-nite, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:10] <cheeseboy> how do ifix it?
[12:10] <cafuego_> give me your cheese
[12:10] <alberto> arrenlex: I cant now, I am in other computer, I can tell you that.. there is no dri and glcore modules activated
[12:10] <alberto> alberto: No more..
[12:10] <Bored1ed> Hello there
[12:10] <arrenlex> alberto: How do you expect to be helped if you don't even have access to the machine?
[12:10] <dark-nite> ok thank you very much
[12:10] <arrenlex> alberto: I need to see the log.
[12:10] <theherbalizer> does anyone know anything about manually mounting usb devices?
[12:10] <Marc1> erSul: Ive tried installing all of theeses packages, but still i receive" the The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You cannot install this program from a
[12:10] <Marc1> console.  Run startx or xinit to start an X server first before running setup. The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.4" message
[12:10] <cheeseboy> help
[12:10] <dark-nite> ill go and try it and be back soon
[12:10] <AngryElf> everytime I go to set up my "development environment" I open up several terminals, bluefish, and firefox -- is there anyway I can save a setup like that and launch it at once?
[12:11] <PirateHead> cheeseboy: help?
[12:11] <dark-nite> is  ndiswrapper have a GUI?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: try the pmount command
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: perhaps you should dial 911.. :)
[12:11] <PirateHead> dark-nite: not that I know of
[12:11] <dark-nite> how do i use it? lol
[12:11] <cheeseboy> stuff isnt going to my taskbar
[12:11] <PirateHead> IndyGunFreak: maybe cheeseboy should?
[12:11] <dark-nite> once i install it
[12:11] <theherbalizer> !pmount
[12:11] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[12:11] <dark-nite> then what shall i do?
[12:11] <cheeseboy> it just disappears
[12:11] <PirateHead> dark-nite: you look at the documentation
[12:11] <Jowi> AngryElf, put the apps in a bash script and create a launcher for it.
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: probalby a good suggestion.
[12:11] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: oh, so i dont need to sudo it?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer:  tail -f /var/log/syslog or dmesg| tail to see the device name ( /dev/sda1 or whatever)
[12:11] <AngryElf> Jowi, but what about positioning them on the screen etc
[12:11] <Flannel> !wifi | dark-nite
[12:11] <ubotu> dark-nite: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:12] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: nope
[12:12] <PirateHead> dark-nite: I've never used ndiswrapper, I just know it works a bunch of people
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> cheeseboy: give an example of what is not going to your taskbar
[12:12] <cheeseboy> itsblank
[12:12] <Flannel> dark-nite: I've never used it.  I imagine that page has a good rundown of it though
[12:12] <cheeseboy> i minimize somtin it just disapears
[12:12] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: pmount lets you mount usb as a user - pumount to unmount
[12:12] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: and how do i get device name?
[12:12] <dark-nite> ok thanks a lot. i will be back soon. thank you everyone
[12:12] <Jowi> AngryElf, that is up to the window manager I think. no idea about gnome/kde (I don't use neither of them)
[12:12] <stiv2k> help i am getting an "Operation not supported" ioctl when testing my wpa_supplicant configuration and i just cant seem to connect using hostap driver on a linksys pci card, it just times out trying to get a DHCP lease
[12:12] <cheeseboy> nothing is on my taskbar
[12:12] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: I just told you :)
[12:12] <aos> hey
[12:12] <aos> im new here
[12:13] <ardchoille> cheeseboy: right click the panel, choose add to panel, and start filling it up :)
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> cheeseboy: are you using gnome?
[12:13] <Guest681> sup, anyone here play oblivion?
[12:13] <PirateHead> Hey aos.
[12:13] <tarnold> hey all
[12:13] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: --> thoreauputic theherbalizer:  tail -f /var/log/syslog or dmesg| tail to see the device name ( /dev/sda1 or whatever)
[12:13] <aos> i need instal drivers for my motherboard in ubu 6.10?
[12:13] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: >_<  typing faster than im reading
[12:13] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:13] <cheeseboy> yes gnome
[12:13] <aos> hey pirate
[12:13] <PirateHead> Guest681: I play Oblivion. This isn't the channel to talk about it, though. >.<
[12:13] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Hello from Wansworld
[12:13] <PirateHead> aos: I don't think you should have to install a motherboard driver.
[12:13] <mark8> Hi - just installed ubuntu LAMP server and unable to install winbind
[12:14] <aos> kk
[12:14] <spinster> hello i am running linux ubuntu and can i download some program to i use MSN hotmail ther e?a
[12:14] <PirateHead> mark8: unable to install doesn't give us much info.
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> cheese, tyry this...  right click your panel, click Add to panel... doubel click Window list
[12:14] <Noah0504> Hello all!
[12:14] <aos> but i have in almoat all devices unknow walue
[12:14] <thoreauputic> aos: generally in Linux you don't need to install drivers - either the system recognises your hardware, or it doesn't :)
[12:14] <mentaluproar> brb
[12:14] <PirateHead> spinster: do you want to use POP-4 to use hotmail, or a browser?
[12:14] <PriceChild> I can't connect to my website (pricechild.co.uk) I have been next door to a computer on the same network and they can connect to it there. My computer can connect to everything else just fine. Any ideas?
[12:14] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: dmesg | tail  returns    [17196681.552000]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 121819
[12:14] <cheeseboy> now i accidentally deleted my task bar
[12:14] <PirateHead> PriceChild: could it be a firewall problem?
[12:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> did u block that one site?
[12:15] <txos> Has anyone had any trouble starting a gnome session over ssh?
[12:15] <Jowi> PriceChild, add your domain to the host file
[12:15] <cheeseboy> how do i get it back?
[12:15] <Wansworld-dot-ne> the "Menu Layout" applet under Administation is not allowing me to check boxes and update the menus
[12:15] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: i have a feeling it's not supposed to do that.
[12:15] <Noah0504> PriceChild: Or maybe a DNS problem?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: I/O errors are usually bad news
[12:15] <spinster> PirateHead: i want some website or some program to i install on my ubuntu to i can login MSN messenger on my ubuntu can you help me ?
[12:15] <Jowi> PriceChild, /etc/hosts
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> cheeseboy: how did you manage that?
[12:15] <Wansworld-dot-ne> I am missing many menu items because of this
[12:15] <PriceChild> my /etc/hosts is fine though....
[12:15] <ardchoille> cheeseboy: right click the other panel and choose New Panel
[12:15] <cheeseboy> ?
[12:15] <PriceChild> Other computers on the same network can access it fine...
[12:15] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: but looks like it's /dev/sdb1 anyway
[12:15] <PirateHead> Wansworld-dot-ne: that's because the Menu Layout applet sucks. You must close the menu layout, reboot, and then your menu will be updated, items added, etc.
[12:15] <Jowi> PriceChild, example: 127.0.0.1 localhost mydomain.com mail.mydomain.com
[12:15] <cheeseboy> where
[12:15] <cheeseboy> ?
[12:15] <PriceChild> Jowi, I know... but I shouldn't need this
[12:15] <spinster> PirateHead: i want some website or some program to i install on my ubuntu to i can login MSN messenger on my ubuntu can you help me ?
[12:15] <PriceChild> It was fine a couple of days ago
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: but what if he only has 1 panel?  i myself only run one panel also.
[12:15] <PirateHead> spinster: do you have the latest version of Ubuntu?
[12:16] <spinster> spinster: yep
[12:16] <Lopi> join #ubuntu-pl
[12:16] <spinster> PirateHead: yep
[12:16] <Narsil> tarnold: say something
[12:16] <mark0> mark8 here... error "couldn't find package"
[12:16] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: try   pmount /dev/sdb1 and see if it shows up in /media
[12:16] <Wansworld-dot-ne> That is incorrect.  I have done this and that does not solve the problem.
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> cheeseboy:  so youdon't have any panel now?..
[12:16] <PirateHead> spinster: There should be a program called Gaim in Applications --> Internet
[12:16] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak cheeseboy The last panel will have Delete This Panel greyed out, you shouldn't be able to delete the last panel.
[12:16] <Narsil> hey i need some help with an mtp player
[12:16] <PirateHead> spinster: click the icon called Gaim Instant Messanger
[12:16] <txos> How about has anyone had any success running a gnome session over ssh?
[12:16] <tarnold> Narsil: dude the saysomething was an example
[12:16] <slim_wrk> how to get freenx server to work with nxclient on dapper? im having a terrible time with the key. any one i can ask?
[12:16] <PirateHead> spinster: when you do, it will give you the option to log into your MSN Instant Messanger account
[12:16] <PirateHead> spinster: is that what you're wanting to do?
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille:  i just looked, i can delete my old one
[12:16] <mark0> I uncommented the universal repository - still no joy
[12:17] <slim_wrk> txso we both can learn using freenx
[12:17] <ruiniel> hey guys, anyone ever changed a DSDT file?
[12:17] <dvd_play> hi room.  I'm getting I/O errors trying to play a (commercial, movie) dvd.  any ideas where I should start to look for the problem or how I can better explain the problem to you?
[12:17] <txos> freenx?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Wansworld-dot-ne: you tried the menu editor alacarte under Apps- Accessories?
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | dvd_play
[12:17] <ubotu> dvd_play: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:17] <balor> Anyone have an Edgy qemu image?
[12:17] <slim_wrk> txos yes..like vnc
[12:17] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: I can't.. the "Delete This Panel" is greyed out and won't let me delete the last panel.
[12:17] <dvd_play> thanks indy, I'll check those out
[12:17] <aos> where i can find skins for ubu?;>
[12:17] <Balsamic_Chicken> Anyone play oblivion here?
[12:17] <mentaluproar3> I'm rebooting the lappy.  It wont see the network so it wont download packages.  one momnet, I'm going after gparted
[12:17] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Yes
[12:17] <Balsamic_Chicken> !oblivion
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oblivion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: hmm.. well mine will, and like i said, its the only panel
[12:18] <Narsil> how do  get a mtp player working, a Creative Zen V Plus, in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <PirateHead> Wansworld-dot-ne: You rebooted but the menus are still not updated?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> !themes | aos
[12:18] <ubotu> aos: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:18] <Wansworld-dot-ne> THat is correct
[12:18] <PriceChild> Hmmm seems some dodgy firestarter settings fixed it
[12:18] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Dapper?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: nope, edgy
[12:18] <aos> ty
[12:18] <Wansworld-dot-ne> alacarte does not let me change the state of the checkboxes
[12:18] <rone> Voiko 6.10 edgy pivitt Ubuntu 7.04 Alpha 5:seen tyylill sudo apt-get jne.
[12:18] <PirateHead> Wansworld-dot-ne: that really sucks. I think that Alacarte is the weakest part of Gnome, to be honest. I wish I could help you.
[12:18] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Seems Edgy comes with that "safety" feature turned off.
[12:18] <nalioth> !fi
[12:18] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[12:19] <bruenig> Wansworld-dot-ne, you can change it manually by editing .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[12:19] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne, PirateHead: What's the problem?
[12:19] <tarnold> narsil: explain again why its nto working
[12:19] <mark0> Problem installing winbind on LAMP server - enabled universal repository - still getting "couldn't find package"
[12:19] <Amaranth> PirateHead: How many bugs have you filed?
[12:19] <PirateHead> Amaranth: Alacarte is a piece of crap and doens't work on either of our computers.
[12:19] <wiseelben> hi, for some reason, I get a "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" error everytime I try to use apt-get or aptitude
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: could be, i don't know.
[12:19] <bruenig> PirateHead, but what are you trying to do exactly
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Wansworld-dot-ne: listen to Amaranth - he wrote it :)
[12:19] <Anohaakten> PirateHead, just installed Amarok, and imported all my mp3's run pretty slick man, thanks!
[12:19] <Jowi> !info winbind
[12:19] <toNt> jowi: im trying to get the nvidia drivers enabled. i did a nvidia-xconfig, but now i get an error saying 'screens found but no usable configuration'. any thoughts?
[12:19] <ubotu> winbind: service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1675 kB, installed size 4272 kB
[12:19] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I have not filed any bugs -- I just ditched Alacarte and I edit my menu files by hand now.
[12:19] <bruenig> oh
[12:20] <Amaranth> PirateHead: I'm the developer, I can't fix things if you don't file bugs.
[12:20] <Jowi> mark0, winbind is in main, not universe.
[12:20] <Marc1> Ive tried installing all of theeses packages, ( ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2') but still i receive" the The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You cannot install this program from a console. Run startx or xinit to start an X server first before running setup. The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.4" message
[12:20] <mark0> right
[12:20] <Wansworld-dot-ne> There are a series of checkboxes in the alacarte menu editor that do not switch state when clicked on.  There are SOME that work, but I cannot get some important one to change.
[12:20] <mark0> so should it be on the CD?
[12:20] <PirateHead> Anohaakten: I'm glad it works for you. It's a really neat media player!
[12:20] <Echonc> im having trouble with the rt2570 build will someone look over what ive done and help me troubleshoot. I think everything is fine till the last step where i get an error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9327/
[12:20] <Amaranth> PirateHead: And if you don't file bugs you have no right to complain
[12:20] <Narsil> I'm new here, but I need to use a media player in Edgy. When I plug it in it does not show up or anything.
[12:20] <Jowi> mark0, yes
[12:20] <cheeseboy> anyone willing to give me indivdual help?
[12:20] <bruenig> Amaranth, how come alacarte doesn't require root privileges, does it not use the files in /usr/share/applications or what
[12:20] <jrib> Marc1: are you running whatever you are doing in X?
[12:21] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I understand the "Where's the bug report? Where's the patch?" mentality.
[12:21] <Jowi> toNt, I don't know the correct procedure for the nvidia drivers I'm afraid.
[12:21] <mark0> I think I meesed up the source list  then :(
[12:21] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne: What one? You can't make a menu visible if it's empty (or all of it's children are invisible)
[12:21] <toNt> Jowi: well thank you anyways :)
[12:21] <Balsamic_Chicken> anyone play oblivion? got a question here lol
[12:21] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Explain what you mean by empty
[12:21] <Amaranth> PirateHead: You're saying my work is crap but haven't done anything to help make it better, what do you expect?
[12:21] <toNt> anyone here have experience trying to install an nvidia card?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> PirateHead: well, he has a point - if something doesn't work for you, go to launchpad and file a bug
[12:21] <wiseelben> hi, for some reason, I get a "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" error everytime I try to use apt-get or aptitude, any ideas why?
[12:21] <theherbalizer> thoreauputic: looks like it worked, thanks man!
[12:21] <Amaranth> bruenig: It writes the changed files to ~/.local/share/applications
[12:21] <thoreauputic> theherbalizer: np :)
[12:21] <mark0> I'm connecting to it using putty
[12:21] <theherbalizer> Balsamic_Chicken: yeah, i do. i won't work on wine, though.
[12:21] <Amaranth> bruenig: they override the system versions
[12:22] <bruenig> Amaranth, figured it was something like that, but couldn't find the directory
[12:22] <toNt> having alittle trying getting the xorg.conf setup for it and was wondering if anyone could help?
[12:22] <mentaluproar3> okay, gparted is installed
[12:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer yay finally someone that plays, my question is about the game hehe
[12:22] <mentaluproar3> windows is on dev/hda5
[12:22] <ardchoille> Amaranth: You're the alacarte dev?
[12:22] <mentaluproar3> there is an exclamation point next to it
[12:22] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I just felt silly reporting a bug that reads "When I hit New Item and fill out all the info and hit OK, it does not create a new item."
[12:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer how do i pick up a journal instead of reading it
[12:22] <mentaluproar3> how do I boot?
[12:22] <Wansworld-dot-ne> I currenlt have 8 choices under Admin, missing are Login window, Networking, Services, Shared foldersm Software sourcesm Synaptic.... and more.
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !msg
[12:22] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[12:22] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne: If the menu doesn't have any items in it you can't make it visible
[12:22] <theherbalizer> Balsamic_Chicken: when you read it, there's a "done" and a "take" option. choose "take"
[12:22] <Amaranth> PirateHead: No output in a terminal?
[12:22] <mentaluproar3> I added the boot flag to the ntfs partition
[12:22] <stiv2k> help i am getting an "Operation not supported" ioctl when testing my wpa_supplicant configuration and i just cant seem to connect using hostap driver on a linksys pci card, it just times out trying to get a DHCP lease
[12:22] <eltopo> hello
[12:23] <Marc1> im trying to install it on a remote machine
[12:23] <Wansworld-dot-ne> There are all vivible in the editor
[12:23] <eltopo> that's a secret
[12:23] <PirateHead> Amaranth: no output at all. It accepts the info, goes back to the main screen, and adds nothing to any toolbars.
[12:23] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne: Are they checked?
[12:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer ahhh, yay thanks so much, i've been trying to telekensis it lol =)
[12:23] <Narsil> Does anyone know why a creative brand media player would not work in Ubuntu?
[12:23] <crdlb> Narsil, most creatives use MTP now
[12:23] <Wansworld-dot-ne> No they are not. And that is the problem,  I cant check them, it wont change state when clicked on
[12:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer thanks very much =) now i can finish the grey prince quest
[12:23] <ardchoille> Amaranth: Wel, I for one feel that alacarte is awesome.. I've never had a problem with it.
[12:23] <theherbalizer> Balsamic_Chicken: np
[12:23] <mark0> can anyone point me to the default source path for CD please
[12:24] <Amaranth> PirateHead: attaching a tarred copy of ~/.local/share/applications ~/.local/share/desktop-directories and ~/.config/menus to a bug would help
[12:24] <theherbalizer> Balsamic_Chicken: telekinesis it out the door? O_o
[12:24] <Amaranth> PirateHead: If you'd filed a bug I would have been able to tell you this
[12:24] <Narsil> crdlb: is there anything I can do to fix that?
[12:24] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I have the same problem as Wansworld there. I can't check or uncheck any of the visibility toggles.
[12:24] <Amaranth> PirateHead: Never assume I can't debug a problem just because you can't. :)
[12:24] <crdlb> Narsil, there is a libmtp that provides support
[12:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer haha yeah, i was thinking maybe i telekenisis it all the way back to where it needs to be, but that doesn't really work lol
[12:24] <Wansworld-dot-ne> At least I know I am not alone!
[12:24] <Jowi> mark0, did you have a look here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <PirateHead> Amaranth: you use Launchpad as your primary bug tracker?
[12:24] <Amaranth> PirateHead: I know how the software works, I can see what it is doing wrong
[12:24] <Marc1> jrib:^
[12:24] <Jowi> mark0, sorry that was not for you
[12:25] <mark0> thanks jowi - will look now...
[12:25] <Amaranth> PirateHead: GNOME bugzilla
[12:25] <stiv2k> how do i mount a USB drive in ubuntu on the command line, where would it show up once it's plugged in
[12:25] <Balsamic_Chicken> theherbalizer thanks alot =)
[12:25] <mark0> oh :(
[12:25] <Narsil> crdlb: a what now?
[12:25] <holycow> oh heh, pressing ctrl / h on the desktop shows hidden files
[12:25] <Echonc> help! having trouble with rt2570 build. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9327/
[12:25] <holycow> nice
[12:25] <Jowi> toNt, , did you have a look here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne: You need to put my name in front of things you say to me, otherwise they get lost
[12:25] <Wansworld-dot-ne>  How
[12:25] <toNt> no but i will now
[12:25] <Amaranth> holycow: It's just a nautilus window :)
[12:25] <toNt> hehe
[12:25] <crdlb> Narsil, http://libmtp.sf.net
[12:25] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Just type it?
[12:25] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I hoped so. I will try to get some bug reports to you -- it is a part of GNOME, after all.
[12:25] <jrib> Marc1: I see.. you're trying to install crossover-office but i says you need X?
[12:25] <holycow> Amaranth, appearently!
[12:25] <Amaranth> Wansworld-dot-ne: Type my name
[12:25] <Jowi> mark0, just ad it with "apt-cdrom"
[12:26] <brady> what is the name of the program which can make deb/rpm/tgz packages? something like installcheck.
[12:26] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Amaranth: Yes?
[12:26] <firepol> hi there, I'd like to have some feedback from you before reporting an ubuntu bug: can you switch user? If I switch user, then I do "terminate session" my system hangs
[12:26] <crdlb> Narsil, various media players such as banshee should be able to use it
[12:26] <firepol> may be im using compiz?
[12:26] <bruenig> brady, checkinstall can make debs from source
[12:26] <Wansworld-dot-ne> my name
[12:26] <Amaranth> PirateHead: Please do, we can get things fixed that way :)
[12:26] <mark0> thanks very much jowi
[12:26] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I was just really pissed that such an intergral part of GNOME didn't work at all as exptected. It doens't look buggy -- it looks broken, like a pre-alpha project or something.
[12:26] <slim_wrk> how to get freenx server to work with nxclient on dapper? im having a terrible time with the key. any one i can ask?
[12:26] <brady> bruenig: ah, yes. that is what i wanted.
[12:26] <Narsil> crdlb: i've tried a bunch of different ones but none of them work with it
[12:26] <stiv2k> how do i mount a USB drive in ubuntu on the command line, where would it show up once it's plugged in
[12:27] <crdlb> Narsil, is it a "PlaysForSure" device?
[12:27] <Amaranth> PirateHead: It works perfectly here and apparently for most people. :) That's why I need bug reports
[12:27] <Narsil> crdlb: no, it's a zen v plus
[12:27] <mentaluproar3> Still can't boot to windows
[12:27] <Wansworld-dot-ne> Amaranth: Who is the 'go to' persons in this room
[12:27] <yettenet> What audio players do you suggest for Ubuntu?
[12:28] <clouder`grr> I suggest Exaile!
[12:28] <PirateHead> yettenet: I suggest Rhythmbox because it is built-in and Amarok because it is awesome.
[12:28] <bruenig> !mediaplayers
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaplayers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <lufis> yettenet: amarok, rhythmbox, banshee. lots of choices :)
[12:28] <yettenet> Thanks, I'll give it a look
[12:28] <elriah> Anything need to be done with 6.06 LTS for the new US DST timezone changes?
[12:28] <bruenig> !mediaplayer
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ardchoille> yettenet: I like xmms
[12:28] <elriah> !dst
[12:28] <mark0> Jowi - winbind still not installing :(
[12:28] <PirateHead> yettenet: if Exaile is the GTK+ port of Amarok, then that's probably worth looking at too. I've never used it.
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <elriah> !timezone
[12:28] <elriah> !timezones
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezones - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <mentaluproar3> ok, now I can't kill my old nick
[12:29] <mark0> jowi - winbind still not installing :(
[12:29] <crdlb> Narsil, the Zen V Plus is a PlaysForSure device, basically that means it's mtp
[12:29] <Jowi> mark0, sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <clouder`grr> PirateHead: that's exactly what it is.  Still under heavy dev.  But very promising
[12:29] <mark0> k
[12:29] <ardchoille> mentaluproar3: /msg nickserv help ghost
[12:29] <bruenig> listen is better than exaile
[12:29] <PirateHead> clouder`grr: I'll have to take a look at it some time.
[12:29] <Jowi> mark0, always update after adding/removing/changing repositories.
[12:29] <stiv2k> how do i mount a USB drive in ubuntu on the command line, where would it show up once it's plugged in
[12:29] <Narsil> crdlb: then yes it is a playsforsure. How do i install this libmtp thing?
[12:29] <drees> Hello romies, greetings from Holland.
[12:29] <bruenig> !de
[12:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:30] <bruenig> !nl
[12:30] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:30] <Kewlb> anyone know of a tool I can use to format a USB HDD w/ ext3 from within Windows Vista
[12:30] <kbd> Partition Magic?
[12:30] <elriah> When I download a 6.06LTS ISO, does it come with all the updates?
[12:30] <stiv2k> ffs
[12:30] <Kewlb> PM costs money doesn't it?
[12:30] <mentaluproar3> GHOST mentaluproar
[12:30] <mentaluproar3> GAAHHH
[12:31] <bruenig> kbd, PM doesn't work in vista
[12:31] <kbd> Kewlb: or you could get vmplayer for free and boot a livedisk of linux and then possess the USB disk
[12:31] <crimsun> elriah: if you've been updating using dapper-updates, nothing extra needs to be done.
[12:31] <stiv2k> i'm sick fo being ignored i've been unable to solve anything in 2 days
[12:31] <crimsun> elriah: cf. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2007-March/012370.html
[12:31] <kbd> bruenig: oo that sucks
[12:31] <Kewlb> going to use the drive with a Linksys NSLU2 -- but that will take another 3 days to get in, heh
[12:31] <elriah> crimsun: Thanks.
[12:31] <Kewlb> but want to go ahead and start moving my files over using the ext2ifs driver for windows.. just need to get it formatted in ext3 first
[12:31] <cheeseboy> SOMEONE help plz
[12:31] <dvd_play> indy, I already have the codecs, it just can't read the disc
[12:31] <Echonc> help! having promblems with rt2570 build can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9327/
[12:32] <lufis> cheese: just ask your question :)
[12:32] <mentaluproar3> I still cant get my nick back
[12:32] <dvd_play> "dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso" doesn't work
[12:32] <cheeseboy> how do i get belkin F5D7050 to work on ubuntu
[12:32] <crdlb> Narsil, apparently there is no mtp support in edgy (there will be in feisty) but if you google "mtp ubuntu edgy" you'll find several guides
[12:32] <cheeseboy> been tryn for hourd
[12:32] <cheeseboy> hours*
[12:32] <mark0> how do i permanantly change hostname please?
[12:33] <jrib> !hostname | mark0
[12:33] <ubotu> mark0: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[12:33] <Narsil> crdlb: thanks, it's not really worth the effort if it's going to be this hard, but thanks anyway.
[12:33] <mark0> thankyou
[12:33] <bigjohnto> anyone know how to check if their are fileson a tape drive?
[12:33] <Jowi> Echonc, /etc/modprobe.d/ is used instead of /etc/modprobe.conf
[12:33] <Echonc> what do i do?
[12:34] <jmworx> Is there any way to look at closed bugs in launchpad?
[12:34] <stiv2k> i'm going to f*** explode
[12:34] <Flannel> jmworx: go to advanced search or whatnot
[12:34] <jmworx> Flannel: I want to see the bugs I filed, including the ones that were closed.
[12:34] <Jowi> Echonc, file a bug report to whoever wrote that code.
[12:35] <mentaluproar3> test
[12:35] <mentaluproar> YES
[12:35] <mentaluproar> I'm back
[12:35] <Echonc> serialmonkey?
[12:35] <mentaluproar> now, back to windows hell
[12:35] <Flannel> jmworx: right, go to advanced search, and fill in all the checkboxes (and I guess seearch for you, as a submitter)
[12:35] <stergio> what is the command for that "simple" synaptic that is started in gnome when i go on "Add/Remove Programs" in the main Menu ..
[12:36] <jrib> stergio: gnome-app-install
[12:36] <Echonc> i followed a howto on the forums. seems no one else has brought this up
[12:36] <stergio> jrib: thnx ... I'm in kubuntu right now ;)
[12:36] <Flannel> mentaluproar: you figure out which partition Windows was on?
[12:36] <Remorse_> yo
[12:36] <stergio> jrib: oh an icon was there too ... silly me
[12:37] <mentaluproar> yes
[12:37] <mentaluproar> hda5
[12:37] <Orfeous> vicente, hi again! can we talk private?
[12:37] <Flannel> mentaluproar: Alright, that's hd0,4 in GRUB
[12:37] <mentaluproar> WOOOO!
[12:38] <stiv2k> how do i mount a USB drive in ubuntu on the command line, where would it show up once it's plugged in
[12:38] <Remorse_> out of interest
[12:38] <Flannel> stiv2k: probably /media/
[12:38] <Marc1> jrib: erUSUL: Thanx now it works!!!!
[12:38] <stiv2k> Flannel: only floppy and cdrom show up there
[12:38] <jmworx> Flannel: How do I search for myself, the only box is for the assignee?
[12:38] <Flannel> stiv2k: maybe on your desktop then
[12:38] <stiv2k> also someone PLEASE HELP me with wpa_supplicant
[12:39] <stiv2k> Flannel: command line
[12:39] <stiv2k> i dont have a desktop
[12:39] <Jowi> Echonc, I found this for you. hope it helps you: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Ralink_RT2570_usb_wireless_driver
[12:39] <Flannel> stiv2k: yes you do.  ~/Desktop
[12:39] <stiv2k> Flannel: even without an X server?
[12:39] <Echonc> jowi thanks ill give it a look
[12:39] <dv_> hey, I am thinking about buying a SATA dvd burner. how is the ubuntu support for installing from a sata dvd drive?
[12:39] <mentaluproar> invalid device requested
[12:39] <mentaluproar> crap
[12:39] <Flannel> stiv2k: has this box never had an X server? or are you just running it without currently?
[12:39] <stiv2k> Flannel: i have no ~/Desktop
[12:39] <dv_> does it work?
[12:39] <stiv2k> Flannel: its a server
[12:39] <stiv2k> so no X server at all
[12:40] <jmworx> OK, got it.
[12:40] <mentaluproar> perhaps I shoudl just redo everything.
[12:40] <Flannel> stiv2k: ah.  Then yeah, you wouldn't have a Desktop drectory.  Um.  run 'fdisk -l' that should tell you
[12:40] <mentaluproar> I dont have much on ubuntu really
[12:41] <mentaluproar> then the only problem becomes wireless
[12:41] <mark0> i'm getting "please use apt-cdrom to make this CDrom recognised by APT" - even tho' I have ??
[12:41] <stiv2k> Flannel: ok
[12:41] <Flannel> mentaluproar: If/when you do, put windows on hda1, you'll have less headaches that way.  But, I don't know why that wasn't working
[12:42] <Anohaakten> hey, does anyone in here have a solution to the kiba-dock? (a better version of the kiba-dock, more stable)
[12:42] <fer> anyone here with experience on gDesklets?
[12:42] <Echonc> jowi thanks i will give this a shot.
[12:42] <mentaluproar> its showing up as a branch under hda1
[12:43] <sivik> !esd
[12:43] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[12:43] <sivik> !alsa
[12:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:43] <dark-nite2> hey its me again
[12:43] <dark-nite2> Jowi i am stuck again. please could you help me?
[12:43] <fer> anyone here with experience on gDesklets?
[12:44] <Jowi> dark-nite2, depends on what you need help with
[12:44] <fer> simple, just need to install one
[12:44] <Echonc> while im here i have another question. every other linux distro was able to add to boot: linux all-generic-ide so i could see my harddrive. How do i do this with ubuntu? im using the live cd and i cant figure it out.
[12:44] <fer> anyone really, just trying to get experience on installing the first one
[12:44] <fer> i'm sure i can manage from there
[12:45] <dark-nite2> it is me from before.   dark-nite. about the internet connection problem :)       I have installed ndiswrapper but i can't seem to install the .inf file
[12:45] <sivik> how do i fix, "no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[12:45] <Jowi> fer, "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data" then start it from the gnome menu.
[12:45] <crimsun> sivik: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:45] <dimeotane> any tips to get my microphone working?
[12:45] <crimsun> dimeotane: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:46] <sivik> crimsun, thats the only error i get
[12:46] <mentaluproar> ntfs-3g or libntfs8?  I want to write to an NTFS partition
[12:46] <fer> awesome, thanks!
[12:46] <crimsun> mentaluproar: the former.
[12:46] <sivik> crimsun, and it was one line, i saw no poing in using pastebin
[12:46] <mentaluproar> 3g?  got it
[12:46] <sivik> !audio
[12:46] <crimsun> sivik: no, but _I_ need that info.
[12:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:46] <sivik> do what crimsun
[12:46] <dark-nite2> !register
[12:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:46] <butterfly_> quick question: how do I turn off ipv6 .. my ubuntu machine keeps says eth0: no ipv6 router present
[12:46] <BrokenPipe> What is the name of that Mac OS-like task bar?  With the little icons.
[12:46] <crimsun> sivik: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:46] <mentaluproar> anythign else requirerd that isn't brought in with it?
[12:47] <stiv2k> someone _help_ me with wpa_supplicant it keeps timing out trying to get a DHCP lease
[12:47] <crimsun> mentaluproar: no, that's pretty much it.
[12:47] <danieleboyo> hello! i was wondering if i could run kile in gnmoe
[12:47] <danieleboyo> gnome
[12:47] <mentaluproar> thank you
[12:47] <bruenig> BrokenPipe, there are a few, kiba dock is one, you can do it with gdesklets
[12:47] <dark-nite2> I have installed ndiswrapper but i can't seem to install the .inf file
[12:47] <mentaluproar> Man, I'm so glad I bought that backup drive
[12:47] <bruenig> danieleboyo, sudo apt-get install kile
[12:47] <sivik> crimsun: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[12:47] <crimsun> mentaluproar: you'll find /usr/share/doc/ntfs-3g/README.Debian useful.
[12:47] <dark-nite2> I have installed ndiswrapper but i can't seem to install the .inf file how do i use ndiswrapper?
[12:47] <hanbush> hello, how would i get vlc working in firefox
[12:47] <danieleboyo> bruenig: ive done that, but when i try and load kile, it complains
[12:47] <sivik> dark-nite2, what card?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> !ndiswrapper
[12:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:48] <bruenig> danieleboyo, saying what
[12:48] <sivik> hanbush, install the plugin for mozilla/firefox
[12:48] <crimsun> sivik: don't tell me that now; tell me the URL after you've executed all those commands and pastebinned their output
[12:48] <hanbush> how?
[12:48] <bruenig> hanbush, the vlc plugin for firefox is really bad
[12:48] <Echonc> while im here i have another question. every other linux distro was able to add to boot: linux all-generic-ide so i could see my harddrive. How do i do this with ubuntu? im using the live cd and i cant figure it out.
[12:48] <hanbush> is there something that is better?
[12:48] <mentaluproar> crap, how do I mount my ntfs partition?
[12:48] <sivik> crimsun: it was working yesterday, and not its not working and i'm trying to figure out why
[12:48] <danieleboyo> bruenig: DCOP communications error?
[12:48] <hanbush> bruenig: is there something better for firefox?
[12:48] <bruenig> hanbush, mozilla-mplayer
[12:48] <dark-nite2> sivik, Belkin F5D7000uk
[12:48] <ardchoille> mentaluproar: lol
[12:48] <mentaluproar> hanbush, no
[12:48] <crimsun> sivik: help me help you. I can't troubleshoot effectively if you don't at least provide that info for starters.
[12:48] <mentaluproar> I know that much
[12:48] <stiv2k> someone _help_ me with wpa_supplicant it keeps timing out trying to get a DHCP lease
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[12:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:49] <bruenig> danieleboyo, I don't know what that means, it is rare that a package won't work out of the repos though
[12:49] <loplely> hi
[12:49] <crimsun> dimeotane: make sure you tell me the URL of your paste.
[12:49] <mentaluproar> how do I mount my ntfs partition?
[12:50] <crimsun> mentaluproar: using what tool?
[12:50] <danieleboyo> bruenig: i dont have kde installed though...should i install it?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: see Ubotu's factoid above
[12:50] <bruenig> mentaluproar, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mount/point
[12:50] <butterfly_> how do I get dhcp to get ip please? I get: eth0 no ipv6 router present
[12:50] <bronze_0_1> !codecs
[12:50] <sivik> crimsun: why aren't you helping me, that crap didn't work
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <hanbush> bruenig: how would i install mplayer?
[12:50] <bruenig> danieleboyo, it shouldn't matter, I am on xfce and am running k3b, it doesn't matter
[12:50] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows | mentaluproar
[12:50] <bronze_0_1> !easy
[12:50] <ubotu> mentaluproar: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <LadyNikon> anyone use anything else besides dia as a visio substitute
[12:50] <crimsun> sivik: I _am_ helping you, but I need all that output _even if it errors_.
[12:50] <bruenig> hanbush, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:50] <thoreauputic> !fuse | mentaluproar
[12:50] <ubotu> mentaluproar: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:50] <danieleboyo> bruenig: alright...its not the only program -> rosegarden doesnt work either
[12:50] <danieleboyo> anyway
[12:50] <danieleboyo> i have to eat now
[12:50] <sivik> crimsun, i'm not getting errors, other than it can't find what i told you earlier about
[12:51] <Flannel> jmworx: If you go to Ubuntu bugs (https://bugs.launchpad.net/Ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1), you can search by reporter, and check in all the checkboxes
[12:51] <butterfly_> ipv6 router error when trying to get ip via dhcp .. any idea?
[12:51] <Flannel> LadyNikon: Umbrello
[12:51] <crimsun> sivik: did you execute all the commands in the troubleshooting section?
[12:51] <hanbush> bruenig: E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[12:51] <mentaluproar> All I need at the moment is the ability to read
[12:51] <hanbush> bruenig: what repository do i need to add?
[12:51] <Echonc> Question. Every other linux distro was able to add to boot: linux all-generic-ide so i could see my harddrive. How do i do this with ubuntu? im using the live cd and i cant figure it out. anyone?
[12:51] <butterfly_> hmm be bakc in a bit
[12:51] <mentaluproar> I'll be writing later
[12:51] <sivik> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9335/
[12:51] <bruenig> hanbush, what version of ubuntu are you using and have you messed with your sources.list or not
[12:51] <Ricky143> Hey guys, im not trying to Advertise another irc network or anything like that, just me and one of my friends wanted to start an uubuntu channel on another server and i wanted to ask if any of you would like to idle/talk in there. Anyway Thanks in advance :) its irc.bluehell.org and the channel is #ubuntu Hope to see you around there :)
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !info mozilla-mplayer
[12:52] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[12:52] <jmworx> Flannel: <jmworx> OK, got it.
[12:52] <hanbush> bruenig: edgy, and i havent removed any repositories, only added a couple
[12:52] <crimsun> sivik: you're not following the directions
[12:52] <Anohaakten> Hey cna someone give me an alernative to Kiba-Dock?
[12:52] <sivik> give me that url again then
[12:52] <crimsun> sivik: start at the top of "Reporting Sound Bugs"
[12:52] <bruenig> hanbush, ok then you are going to need to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <bruenig> !paste
[12:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:52] <sivik> crimsun, can i please have the url again
[12:52] <crimsun> sivik: I've given it to you three times already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:53] <sivik> yes, but i closed xchat
[12:53] <LiENUS> is there a way to pngcrush in place or pngcrush from stdin?
[12:53] <mentaluproar> still cant figure out how to mount it
[12:53] <thoreauputic> sivik: bookmark it :)
[12:53] <stiv2k> someone _help_ me with wpa_supplicant it keeps timing out trying to get a DHCP lease
[12:53] <Stormx2> Hey folks, you know the "open files" dialog in GTK. How to I make it start bigger? Its constantly too small...
[12:53] <hanbush> bruenig: http://pastebin.ca/386934
[12:54] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: well, the hard way is   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda? /media/yourmountpoint
[12:54] <Echonc> Question. Every other linux distro was able to add to boot: linux all-generic-ide so i could see my harddrive. How do i do this with ubuntu? im using the live cd and i cant figure it out. anyone?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: depending on the partition etc
[12:54] <PriceChild> sivik, "/lastlog crimsun" would give you just lines containing his name. Means you dont' have to ask people for the line again :)
[12:54] <bruenig> hanbush, ok the following should do it, paste it all: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:54] <crimsun> Echonc: press F6 then F1 at the boot menu.
[12:54] <sivik> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9336/
[12:55] <mentaluproar> works for me.  lets try...
[12:55] <hanbush> bruenig: separately? or together?
[12:55] <bruenig> hanbush, all at once
[12:55] <sivik> dark-nite2, what do you need help wiht?
[12:55] <crimsun> sivik: add ``lsmod'' output to that
[12:55] <sivik> ok
[12:55] <Echonc> crimsun: thanks will give it a shot
[12:56] <mark0> thanks very much guys - my mistakes fixed and winbind installed! :)
[12:56] <mentaluproar> syntax error
[12:56] <sivik> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9338/
[12:56] <hanbush> bruenig: http://pastebin.ca/386937
[12:56] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: then you typed it wrong :) the device and mount point need to be right, of course
[12:57] <bruenig> hanbush, paste your sources.list again
[12:57] <nic_> \name jong
[12:57] <mentaluproar> what goes in "yourmountpoint"
[12:57] <nic_> hey
[12:57] <stiv2k> how can i find out exactly what model/version wireless PCI card I have, the card itself has no markings on it besides the linksys emblem
[12:57] <LiENUS> nm optipng does it
[12:57] <crimsun> sivik: notice that your onboard and peripheral sound devices are sharing an irq, and on older via motherboards, irq routing is broken
[12:57] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: if win is on /dev/hda1 you can do  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt  for example
[12:57] <dimeotane> http://pastebin.ca/386938
[12:57] <sivik> crimsun, ok
[12:57] <sivik> crimsun, how do i fix it
[12:57] <crimsun> sivik: you should decide which of those two sound devices you wish to use
[12:57] <slappy_> how do I change the max desktop resolution? currently only allowing 1024x768
[12:57] <hanbush> http://pastebin.ca/386939
[12:58] <mentaluproar> got it!
[12:58] <dimeotane> I need help geting my mic to work... my amixer output is here:  http://pastebin.ca/386938
[12:58] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: the mountpoint just needs to exist :)
[12:58] <kitche> !fixres | slappy_
[12:58] <ubotu> slappy_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:58] <crimsun> sivik: if you want to use the ensoniq solely, then reboot and disable the onboard via in bios
[12:58] <mentaluproar> no permissions to view the mnt folder
[12:58] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: so look in /mnt and see if the stuff appears
[12:58] <sivik> crimsun, ok
[12:58] <xexos> so im like a linux noob, how do i install FF? ive already dl'ed it
[12:58] <slappy_> thanks
[12:58] <dark-nite2> !
[12:58] <bruenig> xexos, it is installed by default
[12:58] <slappy_> FF is already installed
[12:59] <xexos> yeah, but its al v1.5
[12:59] <dv_> no infos about how well sata dvd drives work with ubuntu?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: umm, it should be readable but not writable
[12:59] <dark-nite2> !ndiswrapper
[12:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:59] <mentaluproar> cant access the mount folder
[12:59] <hanbush> bruenig: http://pastebin.ca/386939
[12:59] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: you can't cd to /mnt ?
[12:59] <fenderocker> I just got a new video card, and when I boot ubuntu, it says "failed to start x server". How can I fix this?
[12:59] <bruenig> xexos, you need to extract the directory into /opt and then symlink /usr/bin/firefox as well as the plugins in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[12:59] <mentaluproar> nope, let me try S
[12:59] <SnakesAndStuff> Okay, I have a stupid question... is there a terminal window or anything I can look at to see why beryl isn't loading?
[01:00] <xexos> what commands to i type, i forgot how to make a symbolix link
[01:00] <SnakesAndStuff> I got my ATI drivers working again.
[01:00] <Flannel> xexos: Edgy has 2.0
[01:00] <mentaluproar> SU
[01:00] <hanbush> fenderrocker: you need to fix your xorg, boot into recovery mode, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:00] <dark-nite2> how do i find out what chipset my wireless card uses?
[01:00] <fenderocker> thanks!
[01:00] <thoreauputic> xexos:  ln -s /path/totarget /path/to/your-link
[01:00] <cafuego_> dark-nite2: 'lspci'
[01:00] <dark-nite2> in windows lol
[01:00] <mentaluproar> got it in the console
[01:01] <mentaluproar> now I need to ba able to write to the external NTFS HDD
[01:01] <xexos> thoreauputic: thanks
[01:01] <thoreauputic> xexos: no worries :)
[01:01] <dark-nite2> how do i find out what chipset my wireless card uses in windows? :D
[01:01] <SnakesAndStuff> Is there any reason why on bootup the ubuntu logo etc is very grainy until I get into X?  And is there a fix?
[01:01] <aos> hmm   -    any1 know why http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy_pl dont work?
[01:01] <hanbush> bruenig: can you check my repositories? http://pastebin.ca/386939
[01:01] <bruenig> hanbush, I don't see any duplicate entries, everything looks like it should work. Perhaps the mirror you are using is having problems or something or maybe you have some extra repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that are registering as duplicate
[01:01] <xexos> ubuntu wont get any bigger than 1024x768 for me
[01:01] <sivik> crimsun: that didn't work, still the same issues
[01:02] <thoreauputic> !fixres | xexos
[01:02] <ubotu> xexos: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <mla6_> hey anyone know why pasting into terminal causes many TABs to be prepended on each line?
[01:02] <sivik> xexos, maybe you don't have your video drivers installed correctly
[01:02] <crimsun> sivik: I didn't expect it to magically work, sheesh. We're nowhere close to even finishing troubleshooting. This process requires patience.
[01:02] <xexos> >.< im a noob at linux
[01:02] <sivik> crimsun: ok, whats next then
[01:02] <mentaluproar> brb, getting abckup drive
[01:02] <thoreauputic> xexos: bo need to say so :)
[01:02] <crimsun> sivik: I need all that output (afresh) again
[01:02] <thoreauputic> *no
[01:02] <mentaluproar> restoring all those windows apps will be a pin
[01:02] <mentaluproar> crap
[01:03] <Anohaakten> can someone help me with sharing on ubuntu?
[01:03] <Anohaakten> I run share folder or w/e
[01:03] <Anohaakten> pick a folder
[01:03] <Anohaakten> and windows
[01:03] <hanbush> bruenig: i dont have sources.list.d, it doesnt exist, do you know of another mirror?
[01:03] <Anohaakten> but when I go to try and look at it from another computer, it doesnt show up
[01:03] <thoreauputic> !samba | Anohaakten
[01:03] <ubotu> Anohaakten: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:03] <mla6_> can a friendly fella help me with pasting into Terminal?
[01:03] <sivik> crimsun, as well as lsmod?
[01:03] <jong> how do I got about asking a question here, just throw it out and hope someone bites? It's regarding no recognition of external usb drives.
[01:03] <bruenig> hanbush, I just updated and I am using us but didn't get any errors, maybe someone else can see something I don't, but I don't see anything duplicate or wrong with that sources.list at all
[01:03] <mentaluproar> my laptop has a short in the power connector.  sometimes the power just cuts out.  windows doesn't seem to mind, but would ubuntu?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> !ask
[01:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:04] <Kooka> cya und gute nacht
[01:04] <hanbush> mla6_: right click, copy, then open up terminal, and right lcick, paste
[01:04] <mla6_> hanbush, i get a lot of Tabs prepended to each line
[01:04] <SnakesAndStuff> Is there anyway to make the bootup screen not grainy???
[01:04] <jrib> mla6_: method 1: highlight what you want to copy and middle click in terminal.  method 2: copy, the in terminal ctrl-shift-v (or right-click -> paste)
[01:04] <crimsun> sivik: yes.
[01:04] <mla6_> jrib, i get a lot of Tabs prepended to each line pasted
[01:05] <hanbush> bruenig: is there a synaptic for it?
[01:05] <mentaluproar> if I'm going through all this, I want to be sure ubuntu wont be killed every time my power cuts out
[01:05] <jrib> mla6_: because there are tabs in what you copied
[01:05] <mla6_> not really...
[01:05] <bruenig> hanbush, apt-get, synaptic, it is all the same
[01:05] <jrib> mla6_: example?
[01:05] <hanbush> bruenig: ahh, i see, what should i do? i need to view videos for work
[01:05] <xexos> i typed it, but  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ ok ]  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...  [fail] 
[01:05] <bruenig> hanbush, if apt-get is spitting errors, so should synaptic, try "sudo apt-get update" again just to see. There doesn't appear to be any problems
[01:05] <mla6_> jrib, each line has n tabs prepended (n=line number)
[01:06] <PirateHead> mentalupoar: a power cut can be dangerous regardless of operating system. either the memory loses power and dies, or it doesn't -- regardless of the software
[01:06] <mla6_> jrib it's like a pattern
[01:06] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: linux and ubuntu usually recover gracefully from blackouts
[01:06] <jrib> mla6_: are you pasting straight into the command line or some application running in the terminal?
[01:06] <hanbush> bruenig: no updates
[01:06] <mla6_> jrib i think it has to do with carriage return or new line
[01:06] <mentaluproar> -[hwew- so this isn't just me attempting to learn something
[01:06] <mla6_> jrib vi usually
[01:06] <bruenig> hanbush, but there were no errors?
[01:06] <mentaluproar> ok, I'm off to fetch my external drive
[01:06] <LadyNikon> Flannel: is that in synaptic?
[01:06] <mentaluproar> I'll need help transferring my data to the external NTFS
[01:06] <hanbush> bruenig: no errors in apt-get update
[01:06] <sivik> crimsun: did you see my url
[01:06] <jrib> mla6_: :he 'nopaste
[01:07] <bruenig> hanbush, ok good, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:07] <sivik> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9341/
[01:07] <mla6_> jrib can you explain?
[01:07] <jrib> mla6_: it's a vi command, it will give you information
[01:08] <hanbush> bruenig: nice! it worked, mirror mustve been down for a sec before, thanks alot mate cheers!
[01:08] <mla6_> jrib oh, i'm copying from a browser window for example
[01:08] <jong> ha, alright: I have 2 external drives (ntfs and fat32). I just installed 6.10 and I cant get it to recognize the drives much less mount them (i have ntfs-3g).
[01:08] <bruenig> hanbush, alright at least I am not going crazy
[01:08] <jong> usb
[01:08] <crimsun> sivik: yes, please be patient.
[01:08] <jrib> mla6_: did you read the information you got after typing that command in vi?
[01:08] <hanbush> bruenig: that im not sure about, but in terms of linux, you appear to be sane :p
[01:09] <bruenig> just got an xchat update, leaves to see what that is all about
[01:09] <mla6_> jrib i read the wrong parts
[01:09] <mla6_> gotcha
[01:10] <hanbush> bruenig: oh bloody hell, it still isnt working
[01:10] <Wansworld-dot-ne> What?
[01:10] <jrib> mla6_: I just have  set pastetoggle=<F7>  in my .vimrc and hit f7 before pasting and again after pasting
[01:10] <hanbush> bruenig: Totem could not play 'file:///home/han/.mozilla/firefox/sxycwiwx.default/Cache/65414CA3d01'. You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[01:10] <bruenig> hanbush, sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[01:10] <mla6_> jrib, thank you
[01:10] <rock-xoft> -.-
[01:11] <rock-xoft> hello
[01:11] <mla6_> jrib, it wasn't always acting like this though
[01:11] <rock-xoft> bye
[01:11] <mla6_> jrib i'm not sure if i did something to cause this
[01:11] <jrib> mla6_: it won't do it in gui mode.  It also won't do it if you don't have autoindent...
[01:11] <jong> so umm... does anyone have any idea how I can go about debugging if my drives are recognized is a hardware problem, software, or operator noobiness problem :-)
[01:11] <jong> aren't sorry
[01:11] <PirateHead> xchat sucks. I can't even figure out how to use it.
[01:12] <PirateHead> I've been using IRC for 6 years now.
[01:12] <bruenig> PirateHead, sounds like you suck then
[01:12] <mla6_> jrib, thank you
[01:13] <mla6_> jrib thank you for your help, much apprieciated
[01:13] <Chetwin> Can anyone assist me, I am looking for an automatix mirror, their primary servers are down
[01:13] <jrib> Chetwin: !automatix | Chetwin
[01:13] <PirateHead> !automatix
[01:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:14] <Chetwin> !nvidia
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <jrib> Chetwin: erm, if you still really want it, visit #automatix for help
[01:14] <PirateHead> Automatix ought to be for when *nothing* else works... end even then,
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Chetwin: but really, you don't want it :)
[01:14] <PirateHead> !worksforme
[01:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:14] <Chetwin> I try to follow the howtos on installing nvidia drivers and it breaks my systeem
[01:15] <LjL> Chetwin: at least that way you know what you did that broke it.
[01:15] <bruenig> Chetwin, you should try envy
[01:15] <LjL> Chetwin: anyway, you might want to elaborate on "breaks my system"
[01:15] <thoreauputic> !envy
[01:15] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[01:15] <Chetwin> I tried manually installing the nvidia driver earlier today and my X freaked out and would not start
[01:15] <Flannel> LadyNikon: yeah, it's in universe.
[01:16] <bruenig> Chetwin, what makes you think automatix won't do the same
[01:16] <mentaluproar> now it wont mount my external ntfs drive
[01:16] <mentaluproar> this is irritating
[01:16] <LjL> Chetwin: well that's easily fixed (well, restored to the known-good state at least) by putting back "nv" instead of "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which is very easily accomplished if you've made a backup of it...)
[01:16] <LadyNikon> Flannel: THANKS
[01:16] <LadyNikon> oops
[01:16] <Chetwin> LjL, that's what I did
[01:16] <LadyNikon> thanks..
[01:16] <Chetwin> But still yet I was unable to get the proper driver working
[01:17] <LjL> Chetwin: well the nvidia driver is the nvidia driver, automatix won't do anything magic for you if it somehow refuses to work on your system
[01:17] <jong> ok, last try, ill try and make it clearer: I am super noob and just installed ubuntu. My problem: I have 2 usb external hard drives (1 nfts, 1 fat32). The drives should be recognized under places/computer I believe. Correct. When I attach them and restart they are not recognized. Does anyone have any idea about how to debug this problem?
[01:17] <LjL> Chetwin: are you sure you don't need the legacy driver perhaps? is your card recent?
[01:17] <Chetwin> Mmy card is newer
[01:17] <Chetwin> Brand new dell laptop
[01:18] <LjL> Chetwin: you should look at what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says after a failed attempt to start X
[01:18] <crimsun> sivik: you're using an old kernel. Why are you not using -11 ?
[01:18] <Chetwin> I'm a techie and it gives ME a headache
[01:18] <Chetwin> log files are crap unless you understand them
[01:18] <mentaluproar> I can't mount my external USB hdd at all, but it used to mount just fine
[01:18] <LjL> Chetwin: that is why we have support channels...
[01:18] <LjL> !paste > Chetwin    (Chetwin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:19] <bruenig> xchat update makes you use the tray icon even if you don't want to, joy
[01:19] <Chetwin> I gotcha, I'm gonna try the howto
[01:19] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[01:19] <juice`> trying to solve it for 25 hours :|
[01:19] <jong> i cant even get to the mounting stage my drives are not even recognized as existing. Is there a way to determine if this a hardware problem?
[01:20] <kazuka> hmmm
[01:21] <seravitae> can anyone suggest a client like xchat-gnome? xchat-gnome is a heap of garbage.
[01:21] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[01:21] <Toma-> seravitae: how about xchat?
[01:21] <Vaalth> hey, how can i mount my ntfs drive with read access?
[01:21] <mentaluproar> problem:  reading from one NTFS partition and backing up to an external USB ntfs partition.  Go
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Chetwin: are you sure you're installing the drivers right?
[01:21] <seravitae> Toma-:  im looking for a multi-server GUI client.
[01:21] <Toma-> seravitae: exactly.
[01:21] <jong> vaalath you need the ntfs-3g package
[01:21] <Chetwin> Indy: If I was sure then I would most likely have better luck
[01:21] <Chetwin> I'm going to use synaptic
[01:22] <Vaalth> ive done it before dont remember the command though
[01:22] <seravitae> Toma-:  i wouldn't call xchat GUI.
[01:22] <Vaalth> so im guessing i have it ;)
[01:22] <seravitae> if you wish me to be more precise, i'd prefer a gnome-accessible client.
[01:22] <Toma-> seravitae: xchat isnt a GUI?
[01:22] <Xenguy> seravitae: of course xchat is GUI
[01:22] <seravitae> i said *I* wouldn't call it a gui.
[01:22] <Toma-> seravitae: xchat is written in GTK, same as gnome.
[01:22] <Xenguy> seravitae: yes.  You are wrong.
[01:23] <seravitae> that is fine if i am wrong, since it is an opinion.
[01:23] <Grenade> word
[01:23] <Toma-> seravitae: i dont get it... you want something more visually appealing that xchat?
[01:23] <seravitae> either way i thought it was obvious that if i was using xchat-gnome i wouldn't roll back to xchat.
[01:23] <Xenguy> seravitae: no, it is a fact -- it *is* a Graphical User Interface (i.e. GUI). Period. End of story. Thank you for playing.  Next :P
[01:23] <seravitae> never mind.
[01:23] <aarmenaa> I need to install Ubuntu on a laptop.  The BIOS has no support for booting anything via USB.  I've tried using Linloader from DOS, and couldn't get it to work.  So, instead I used an adapter to put the hard drive from my laptop into a desktop, and installed Ubuntu from there.  The laptop now boots, and I can use the command line, but X refuses to start (different video card, etc).  What I'd like to do is just get Ubuntu to redo the installation, so it'll
[01:24] <bruenig> it is not an opinion you wouldn't call xchat a gui, a gui is a certain thing with criteria that are used to determine if something fits it, either xchat fit that criteria and therefore is a gui or it doesn't, no opinion there
[01:24] <Vaalth> so does anyone know the command to mount an ntfs drive?
[01:24] <Xenguy> seravitae: hey you deserved it ;-)
[01:24] <Vaalth> ubuntuguide.org is down or something so i cant check that :/
[01:24] <Toma-> seravitae: you can roll back to xchat...
[01:24] <seravitae> i said never mind.
[01:24] <seravitae> drop it.
[01:24] <Slart> Vaalth: look in "man mount" there is a switch for file system.. set it to ntfs
[01:24] <Toma-> seravitae: ha. ok then
[01:24] <martalli> xchat is a great little program
[01:24] <bruenig> there is a difference between saying, hey alright guys just an opinion and admitting defeat
[01:24] <jong> Well if no one has any ideas about how I can debug if my drive recognition problem is hardware/software or how to debug it could someone at least point me in the direction of where to figure this out. I've been trying to get my files for the last 2 days
[01:24] <Xenguy> seravitae: oh, and you want the last word too?  Then "drop it" =)
[01:24] <Slart> Vaalth: I don't mount my disks manually so I don't know the command.. but I can tell you what my fstab says?
[01:25] <bruenig> the latter is called for
[01:25] <martalli> If you want command line irc, try epic
[01:25] <seravitae> Xenguy: stop being a prick.
[01:25] <Xenguy> seravitae: tsk tsk
[01:25] <thoreauputic> ##### Arguments --> #ubutnu-offtopic
[01:25] <thoreauputic> &ubuntu-oftopic
[01:25] <mentaluproar> please no flame wars.  It takes time away from getting/giving help to others
[01:25] <thoreauputic> heh forget it - can't type today
[01:25] <ailean> ffs
[01:25] <martalli> epic has been a lifesaver after I messed up my X
[01:26] <Toma-> seravitae: tried gaim?
[01:26] <martalli> At the very least, ake flamewars to $mandriva or #opensuse?
[01:26] <martalli> s/ake/take
[01:26] <seravitae> toma- i am not continuing the discussion.
[01:26] <PriceChild> Back on topic please everyone.
[01:26] <Slart> Vaalth: here it is /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,noauto,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46     0       0
[01:26] <ailean> gaim is ok
[01:26] <ailean> kopete is better
[01:26] <thoreauputic> flamewars --> elsewhere please
[01:26] <Toma-> sheesh. just trying to help. take it easy
[01:26] <working> Has anyone had any issues getting the GUI dist-upgrade to the beta release of feisty-fawn to start from the adept updater in Kubuntu?
[01:27] <Slart> Vaalth: first one is the device, second is the mount point, third is fstype, then there are some options... I don't think they are vital.. and then there's 0 0 for the autocheck.. and automount I think
[01:27] <PriceChild> working, feisty in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:27] <Vaalth> ty
[01:27] <working> terribly sorry, i'll go there. thank you PriceChild
[01:27] <pzmoma> sweet if javajake is around i wanna thank him for helpin me get my Wusb54GS wireless usb device working via ndiswrapper
[01:27] <PriceChild> No problem working :)
[01:27] <jong> please someone help me
[01:28] <Slart> Vaalth: hope that helps you .. if not, just shout
[01:28] <ailean> !jong | ask
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <Slart> jong: what's the problem?
[01:28] <ailean> bah
[01:28] <mentaluproar> the computer cant see my USB drive
[01:28] <Slart> jong: I'm not sure I can help you.. but I promise to try
[01:28] <ailean> me too
[01:28] <jong> i have a usb drive and the computer wont recognize it
[01:28] <jong> 2 of them one fat32 and the other ntfs
[01:29] <Slart> jong: hmm.. ok.. it doesn't show up in nautilus?
[01:29] <mentaluproar> usb worked until I installed that ntfs3g write support
[01:29] <pzmoma> dmesg show anything?
[01:29] <jong> that would be under computer? its not auto-detected there
[01:29] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[01:30] <pzmoma> peculiar
[01:30] <gyovany> ajuda
[01:30] <Slart> jong: if I insert an usb stick It pops up in nautilus.. left side.. the places tab
[01:31] <jong> thing is if i insert my ipod, it autorecognizes that, but with my usb hard drives it doesnt
[01:31] <juice`> could someone please help me? :( it seems to be ubuntu problem, there are people complaining about it on forums
[01:31] <mentaluproar> I'm going to reinstall ubuntu, so I can read my external drive, but still not read my internatl one, so I can try to back up to my external....GAHHHH!
[01:31] <juice`> started this thread to descrive it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=379716
[01:31] <juice`> describe it i mean.
[01:31] <mentaluproar> could I add write support while running in live mode?
[01:31] <beaz> test
[01:31] <juice`> with screens. configs. everything :|
[01:31] <Grenade> your problem is other' opinions?
[01:32] <frenchie> hey everyone - I've just finished installing ubuntu 6.10 and I'm not sure my ATI video card has been detected; I've gone through the device manager, installed the drivers, restarted, and still nothing. Is there a way to check which devices are actually recognized with valid drivers?
[01:32] <amonkey> is there a deskbar plugin for gmail that works? and is there a good place to find deskbar plugins?
[01:32] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me, Is it possible to install ubuntu 6 on a fat32?
[01:32] <PriceChild> !checkgmail | amonkey
[01:32] <ubotu> amonkey: checkgmail: Alternative Gmail Notifier for Linux via Atom feeds. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 204 kB
[01:32] <juice`> ok, is there any place where you can get ubuntu support?
[01:32] <jong> so it is not recognized under nautilus
[01:32] <GenieHost> hello every body, how to install ubuntu 7.04 top on 6.10?
[01:33] <juice`> trying to find at least one person to get intrested into my problem, which is not my fault, and is causing some troubles to some people
[01:33] <LjL> !feisty > GenieHost    (GenieHost, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !upgrade | GenieHost
[01:33] <ubotu> GenieHost: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:33] <PriceChild> GenieHost, I've given you the link already and pointed you to #ubuntu+1 This channel is not for feisty :)
[01:33] <Slart> jong: I'll do some checking here.. I'll be back in a minute with some stuff for you to type in
[01:33] <jong> thank you
[01:33] <MatrixMon> Can anyone help me
[01:33] <MatrixMon> ?
[01:34] <Grenade> read the rules man
[01:34] <thoreauputic> !ask MatrixMon
[01:34] <Grenade> first
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask matrixmon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <LjL> MatrixMon: no, that's not possible
[01:34] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:34] <LjL> or desirable
[01:34] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[01:34] <juice`> trying to get some support for days :|
[01:34] <thoreauputic> !ask | MatrixMon
[01:34] <ubotu> MatrixMon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:34] <juice`> just started new thread
[01:34] <MatrixMon> Can I install Ubuntu on a fat43
[01:34] <MatrixMon> fat32
[01:34] <juice`> becouse old one was full of my own posts
[01:34] <LjL> MatrixMon: i answered: no.
[01:34] <MatrixMon> Oh
[01:34] <MatrixMon> Thanks
[01:35] <MatrixMon> LjL: do you know why?
[01:35] <juice`> ok i will try asking personally, maybe this will help
[01:35] <juice`> LjL: hi, do you see what i'm typing? :)
[01:35] <LjL> MatrixMon: uh... because FAT is not a Unix-type filesystem, doesn't support Unix permissions, doesn't support the Unix file naming schemes....?
[01:35] <Slart> ok, jong.. here's what I want you to do.. open a terminal, type "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and press entar. It will show you the last 10 lines of the system log
[01:35] <LjL> juice`: yes i do, no i don't know about your kernel problem
[01:35] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: why would you want to use a terrible file system like fat 32 anyway ? ;-)
[01:35] <MatrixMon> I see
[01:35] <MatrixMon> Well..
[01:36] <MatrixMon> Its not my computer
[01:36] <juice`> LjL: was just checking if i'm not being ignored by server or something.
[01:36] <LjL> MatrixMon, then don't install an operating system on it
[01:36] <MatrixMon> And they need something other than 98
[01:36] <enjahova> Ok, after finally getting proprietary nvidia graphics drivers working on ubuntu 64 Acer laptop, I installed ALSA to try and get sound. It worked, sort of cuz when I restarted it repeatedly spams the first second of the startup sound and then ubuntu wont boot. I don't even know how to begin...
[01:36] <Slart> jong: you don't have to tell me what the lines are... but keep an eye on that window and plug in your usb drive.. if it's plugged in, disconnect it and then plug it in again
[01:36] <LjL> MatrixMon: and why can't you just use a normal ext3 filesystem?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: if it's an old box, xubuntu might be a good choice
[01:37] <MatrixMon> Really?!
[01:37] <Sivik> crimsun, did you get my last url?
[01:37] <Sivik> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9344/
[01:37] <EdgEy> MatrixMon, you can just delete the fat32 partition and make any type you life
[01:37] <MatrixMon> Are you sure that will all work out?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: and as LjL says, just use the ext3 file system
[01:37] <EdgEy> MatrixMon, though you would have to backup data
[01:37] <thoreauputic> !install | MatrixMon
[01:37] <ubotu> MatrixMon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:37] <LjL> MatrixMon, uh, of course not.
[01:37] <MatrixMon> Only if the harddrive is big enough to hold an NTF?
[01:38] <mentaluproar> Idea.  redo ubuntu and back up specail stuff that I dont want to redo...in the ipod
[01:38] <jong> slart it gives me two errors
[01:38] <Toma-> How do you add a MIME type?
[01:38] <LjL> MatrixMon, but installing Ubuntu on a FAT filesystem is *certain* to not work out
[01:38] <mentaluproar> I feel smart for once
[01:38] <MatrixMon> NTFS*
[01:38] <EdgEy> any hdd can use any file system
[01:38] <LjL> MatrixMon: eh?!
[01:38] <jong>  usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 96
[01:38] <EdgEy> apart from possibly something ludicrously small
[01:38] <jong> usb 4-4: device not accepting address 96, error -71
[01:38] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: those are Windows file sstems - this is Linux
[01:38] <Sivik> jong: use pastebin
[01:38] <Slart> jong: ah.. here is what my system writes when I insert mine.. just to give you a reference http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9345/
[01:38] <MatrixMon> I have tried formatting a win98 box to hold Windows XP it did go so well
[01:39] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: erm. this is not a Windows channel
[01:39] <Sivik> crimsun, you still around?
[01:39] <EdgEy> MatrixMon, that was probably driver problems or something, filesystem can be changed easily.
[01:39] <MatrixMon> thoreauputic thanks for pointing that out Captian Obvious
[01:39] <Slart> jong: now lets google for that error message and see if anything comes up
[01:39] <x2mjokada> !gimpshop
[01:39] <ubotu> gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[01:39] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: well, start asking sensible questions and you won't be treated like an idiot :)
[01:40] <enjahova> !alsa
[01:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:40] <LjL> MatrixMon: well it's not clear why you keep asking about FAT and NTFS and Windows XP etc, then. we deal with Unix filesystems, quite obviously, here, most of the time
[01:40] <jong> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9346/
[01:40] <MatrixMon> Dispite asking the right question or not I'm just trying to get the right idea, it don't mean shit to me if you cut me down I just need answer
[01:40] <LjL> NTFS and FAT are filesystems made for Microsoft Windows. i can't understand why you'd use them for a Unix system, nor can i get a clue why you believe that only certain filesystems would work on your drive
[01:40] <mentaluproar> apparently, all my usb cables are bad
[01:41] <mentaluproar> stupid compy
[01:41] <EdgEy> LjL, fat was made for dos
[01:41] <thoreauputic> !oh my | MatrixMon
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <EdgEy> possibly before
[01:41] <EdgEy> :P
[01:41] <LjL> EdgEy: thanks for the information
[01:41] <thoreauputic> MatrixMon: you're on pretty thin ice now
[01:41] <LjL> no, not before
[01:41] <PriceChild> MatrixMon, Ubuntu is only officially supported on ext3. You will not receive support for installing on other FS's in this channel.
[01:41] <LjL> CP/M used its own filesystem, though it was similar enough
[01:42] <Slart> jong: another thing for you to type.. "lsmod | grep -i ehci_hcd"
[01:42] <MatrixMon> Looks like the ics just fell through.. But hey I got my answer!
[01:42] <MatrixMon> PEace out
[01:42] <Sivik> crimsun, you still around?
[01:42] <Nap> hi !
[01:43] <justin___> What is the latest version of Ubuntu, official?
[01:43] <jrib> justin___: edgy
[01:43] <userund> edgy
[01:43] <LjL> !edgy > justin___    (justin___, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:43] <EdgEy> edgy
[01:43] <Toma-> 6.10
[01:43] <Nap> chmod crashes on my ubuntu ! can anyone please help me ?
[01:43] <PriceChild> justin___, 5.10, 6.06 & 6.10 are all still supported though :)
[01:43] <Nap> francois@mahe:~$ chmod
[01:43] <Nap> Erreur de segmentation (core dumped)
[01:43] <crimsun> Sivik: yes, but I'm in a conference call atm
[01:43] <Sivik> Nap; english please
[01:43] <Nap> I use edgy
[01:43] <Toma-> Nap: you need to give it soemthing to modify..
[01:43] <Sivik> crimsun, ok
[01:43] <crimsun> Sivik: please be patient
[01:43] <LjL> Nap: ugh... reinstall. after doing a memtest and checking your HD.
[01:43] <justin___> Edgy ok I am still on that :)
[01:43] <archangelpetro> question.
[01:43] <justin___> Wasn't there supposed to be a new version in march?
[01:43] <userund> Sivik, it means "segmentation fault"
[01:43] <EdgEy> does feisty have an official release date?
[01:43] <PriceChild> justin___, april
[01:43] <EdgEy> april
[01:44] <LjL> Nap: oh, and of course, you have the correct version of libc, and not a debian version of it or something?
[01:44] <thoreauputic> justin___: april
[01:44] <userund> EdgEy, april
[01:44] <justin___> Ahh Feisty, that was it ;)
[01:44] <PriceChild> EdgEy, april 29th ish
[01:44] <Sivik> userund: what are you tlaking about?
[01:44] <Nap> Toma-: Thank you very much but the result is exactly the same with a correct syntax
[01:44] <EdgEy> userund, i mean, day
[01:44] <userund> Sivik, nevermind
[01:44] <Toma-> ok
[01:44] <EdgEy> PriceChild, thanks
[01:44] <Sivik> userund: i didn't say anyting about a segmentation fault
[01:44] <justin___> I have to come back, I went back to windows.. and man do I regret it.
[01:44] <justin___> Was making sure if my CDs were still up to date :)
[01:44] <jong> slart it returns: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9349/
[01:44] <archangelpetro> if you are on a network for an organisation.. and their passwd file is freely accessible and viewable.. is it illegal to take it and download it?
[01:44] <Nap> LjL: I believe my system is clean
[01:44] <threeonefour_> !colinux
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <LjL> Nap: if such a command as chmod segfaults, i can hardly believe that...
[01:45] <zcat[1] > archangelpetro: ask a lawyer?
[01:45] <LjL> !offtopic > archangelpetro    (archangelpetro, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:45] <Nap> Sivik: that was just an output error message. I don't know the english matching
[01:45] <Nap> LjL: how can I check this ?
[01:45] <Sivik> Nap, what lang is it?  there is probabyl an ubuntu channel for that alng
[01:45] <Sivik> lang*
[01:45] <Sivik> !language
[01:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:45] <Sivik> !translation
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <userund> Sivik, it's french and it means segmentation fault like I said.
[01:45] <emet> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install cabextract wine && wget http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/downloads/ies4linux-latest.tar.gz && tar zxvf ies4linux-latest.tar.gz && cd ies4linux-* && ./ies4linux
[01:46] <emet> ^ installs IE6 on ubuntu!
[01:46] <Sivik> userund, ok
[01:46] <threeonefour_> can !fr
[01:46] <mentaluproar> great, my computer cant power crap withou a powerd usb hub.  CRAP
[01:46] <PriceChild> Sivik, we understand what's going on with him :)
[01:46] <threeonefour_> !fr
[01:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:46] <emet> spyware even works perfectly on it!
[01:46] <LjL> Nap: some trial and error... perhaps start with "gdb chmod", type "run", and when it fails, try to see how it fails (one useful command there is "where"). gdb might have to be installed
[01:46] <justin___> But one thing I wish to know, why is it that a refresh of 60hz in windows vs Ubuntu is different? - In windows 60hz is "bearable" in Ubuntu.. I mean it's really really noticeable, is there a reason for that?
[01:46] <Sivik> PriceChild, good, cause i don't understand
[01:46] <bruenig> emet, great, I was really missing my ie
[01:46] <Slart> jong: hmm.. I'll search some more.. be back in a minute or two
[01:46] <xexos> Im a total n00b at linux.... how do i get mp3 support? I know its not native cuz its a proprietary format... and https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141362&package_id=155388 which one do i dl?
[01:46] <EdgEy> justin___, i think ubuntu is brighter by default
[01:46] <PriceChild> !mp3 | xexos
[01:46] <ubotu> xexos: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <Sivik> !mp3
[01:46] <justin___> EdgEy: could be
[01:46] <emet> !ie
[01:46] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[01:46] <emet> lol
[01:46] <PriceChild> xexos, It is native... we just can't ship it by default.
[01:47] <LjL> Nap: also, do an "apt-cache policy libc6" and tell me what it says. a run of memtest (it's included in ubuntu, and can be accessed from the grub menu) won't hurt for sure. if you have any unofficial repositories enabled, you may also want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <ben325e> anyone have experience with ati radeon xpress 200 G onboard video?
[01:47] <emet> xexos, install all packages with "gstreamer" in them
[01:47] <emet> do
[01:47] <PriceChild> !anyone | ben325e
[01:47] <ubotu> ben325e: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:47] <threeonefour_> can i get help with setting my colinux to use my ubuntu partition as the root
[01:48] <emet> sudo apt-get install `apt-cache search gstreamer`
[01:48] <emet> :P
[01:48] <emet> that probably won't work!
[01:48] <xexos> i plugged in my ipod once and i made an icon on the desktop, but when ever i try to get that to happen again, it wont
[01:48] <thoreauputic> emet: it definitely won't work :)
[01:48] <PriceChild> xexos, are you on gnome?
[01:48] <Slart> jong: looks like it might be your USB-connector in the computer, or the usb cord, or the usb-thingy you're trying to connect.. from a webpage "PROBELM SOLVED
[01:48] <Slart> Turns out error -71 is a low level hardware error, and usually signifies a problem with the device or the chord. The device and the usb port are know to work so...
[01:48] <Slart> I ended up buying a usb hub (a standard 1.1, considering this laptop doesn't have a high speed port) and it recognized my device. Considering I only had one usb port, I needed it anyway.Hope this help someone down the line."
[01:48] <Nap> LjL: apt-cache policy ouputs theree versions, from edgy-updates, edgy-proposed and edgy, all from archive.ubuntu.com
[01:49] <emet> thoreauputic, fix it :(
[01:49] <thoreauputic> emet: hah
[01:49] <xexos> PriceChild: yea
[01:49] <emet> I know you need to pipe something around like 20 times
[01:49] <emet> no?
[01:49] <Sivik> whats the character needed for the uname -r thingy when handling and looking for stuff for your current kernel
[01:49] <jong> slart - so its a hardware problem?
[01:49] <Slart> jong: that's the only solution I've found on the net.. there are lots of posts with this error but any good answers are hard to find
[01:49] <PriceChild> xexos, You shouldn't have had to edit anything... should just appear by default as its automounted by gnome... do you see it in /media ?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> emet:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer*  might work ( but it's huge overkill)
[01:49] <PriceChild> thoreauputic, isn't it libgstreamer ?
[01:50] <ben325e> Under Add/Remove I see tons of programs with K in the name, but I am running Gnome, are they usable in Gnome or only KDE?
[01:50] <crimsun> Sivik: did you reboot into the new errata kernel (-11)?
[01:50] <Slart> jong: there's a lot of hits to go through http://www.google.se/search?q=%22device+not+accepting+address%22+%22error+-71%22
[01:50] <emet> ben325e, nope, they work in GNOME too!
[01:50] <xexos> PriceChild: no
[01:50] <thoreauputic> PriceChild: well i guess gstreamer* would only get plugins etc actually
[01:50] <Sivik> crimsun, i don't see it in the repos anywhere
[01:50] <threeonefour_> Slart, just remember that not all usb devices are not always 1.1 compatible
[01:50] <emet> but be careful, KDE programs don't run as well in GNOME cause of shared libraries!
[01:50] <ben325e> thanks emet!
[01:50] <emet> np
[01:50] <PriceChild> emet, kde programs work perfectly in gnome
[01:51] <emet> they open like 2 seconds slower
[01:51] <emet> then in KDE
[01:51] <PriceChild> xexos, Hmm... I'm not sure sorry...
[01:51] <Sivik> crimsun, it finally found it
[01:51] <Sivik> crimsun, let me install and reboot
[01:51] <PriceChild> emet, because the libraries haven't already been called... obviously if you run kde, everything's been pulled ready already. They still work fine.
[01:51] <jong> Thank you slart, ive been having a lot of usb related problems in windows as well so it makes sense. My devices were running at 1.1 max not 2.0... Do you know of any tools that can run diagnostics on the usb to narrow it further down for me?
[01:51] <Slart> threeonefour_: true
[01:52] <emet> PriceChild, right, run as well (performance wise), there is also UI differences!
[01:52] <threeonefour_> jong, is this a laptop
[01:52] <mentaluproar> how can I write to an NTFS partition
[01:52] <emet> I recommend GTK+ applications unless you really need the KDE one
[01:52] <jong> yeah
[01:52] <Slart> jong: no idea.. I guess just plugging stuff in counts as a diagnostic =) never had problems with my usb-ports
[01:52] <thoreauputic> mentaluproar: try reading the urls you were given an hour ago?
[01:52] <sivik> crimsun, let me boot into that new kernel as soon as i get it installed
[01:52] <PriceChild> emet, agreed.
[01:52] <ben325e> Is there a beryl support channel?  Or should I just give up on beryl.  (I installed it with ati radeon xpress 200 G onboard video, and it opens, but shows me a white screen.... when I alt+tab+arrow, the cube rotates, but it is a strictly whiite cube... :)
[01:52] <mentaluproar> crap, sorry
[01:52] <Slart> jong: why not try getting a cheap usb2 controller card at your local computer store.. can't cost much
[01:52] <PriceChild> ben325e, #ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <sivik> !beryl
[01:53] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:53] <techie_> Question: I am trying to use sound recorder. When I attempt to record it tells me: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Correct them in the Multimedia" What does it mean or where is the Multimedia?
[01:53] <ben325e> thx pricechild
[01:53] <techie_> I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgey
[01:53] <martalli> if you're going to get a cheap usb board, check out the reviews on newegg - people will typically report which ones worked well for linux, etc.
[01:53] <threeonefour_> jong, Slart: if it wasent a laptop there would be a way
[01:53] <EdgEy> i have a really bad nick choice for this channel :|
[01:53] <thoreauputic> techie_: try alsamixer or the preferences for gnome-volume-control
[01:53] <emet> get nvidia/intel for video
[01:54] <sivik> crimsun, i'm loading into the new kernel
[01:54] <jong> i have a docking station and have similar problems when i go through it for usb. Do you know if the controller is right before the usb port or is it on the motherboard?
[01:54] <emet> and avoid broadcom for wifi
[01:54] <jong> well thanks a lot slart. that helps me out, at least i know where i'm screwed :-)
[01:54] <emet> intel wifi has pretty good support as retek too (OSS)
[01:54] <martalli> intel wifi is most reliable...but the newer 3945 is not well supported in the linux world
[01:54] <threeonefour_> jong, the controler is controled by the north bridge
[01:54] <Number2> hello
[01:55] <PriceChild> !hi | Number2
[01:55] <ubotu> Number2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:55] <martalli> I could only get my 3945 chip working with mepis (works out of the box with wpa, too)
[01:55] <Slart> threeonefour, jong: oh.. it's a laptop? didn't know that.. that sucks... I have no idea how the usb ports are constructed.. you can always ask in a more linux hardware oriented channel.. they might have some tips
[01:55] <whycry> ho ho
[01:55] <threeonefour_> jong, so you cannot change it
[01:55] <xexos> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141362&package_id=155388 which one do i dl? (im a n00b)
[01:55] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[01:55] <emet> I got Intel wifi and worked out the box as far back as Dapper
[01:55] <Number2> i need to know how to set directory permissiond on a folder i create as root
[01:55] <whycry> help me
[01:55] <martalli> You could get a PC-Card with usb ports if it was really important
[01:56] <Slart> Number2: use sudo chmod bla bla bla
how do i install via terminal! Any commands?
[01:56] <threeonefour_> Slart, all usb is defined by the northbridge, except for desktops where you can get a usb 2.0 card
I meant the altamixer
[01:56] <Number2> i need to know what the bla bla bla is
[01:56] <emet> it has full WPA support too, but not PEAP out the box
[01:56] <jong> so i guess i need to get a pc card usb controller
[01:56] <Slart> threeonefour_: ah.. all motherboards have a northbridge?
[01:56] <Number2> im creating a folder as root but i need users able to access it
[01:56] <thoreauputic> techie_: just type alsamixer in a terminal, and use spce, arrow, and tab to navigate
[01:57] <thoreauputic> techie_: space to toggle things
[01:57] <jrib> !permissions | Number2
[01:57] <threeonefour_> Slart, a northbridge and a southbridge that is how bios detects them
[01:57] <ubotu> Number2: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:57] <thoreauputic> techie_: and m to mute - unmute IIRC
[01:57] <Slart> Number2: heh.. ok.. everyone gets to do everything would be "sudo chmod a+rw foldername"
[01:57] <Number2> thank you
[01:57] <jong> slart threeonefour thanks a lot
[01:57] <Slart> you're welcome jong
[01:57] <thoreauputic> techie_: <esc> to quit
[01:58] <`nicola> guys I don't remember the way to get the output in english, it wass something like ALL_LC command
[01:58] <threeonefour_> Slart, an easyer way of chmod is   chmod 777 (for total access by everyone ) foldername
[01:58] <Slart> threeonefour_: nice.. I thought they are .. well.. some kind of product names.. =)
[01:58] <Anohaakten> can someone help me with adding stuff to your startup?
[01:58] <priich> emet, golfing, ehh ?     how about:  sudo apt-get install `apt-cache search gstreamer|gawk '{print $1}'|grep -i "^gstreamer\|^libgstreamer"`
[01:58] <Anohaakten> like...I want beryl to run on startup
[01:59] <Anohaakten> how do I do that
[01:59] <xexos> should i use wine or something else?
[01:59] <Slart> threeonefour_: yes.. but then it's just voodoo.. chmod a+rw is at least almost understandable =)
[01:59] <PriceChild> Anohaakten, > #ubuntu-effects (Add it to system > sessions)
[01:59] <emet> \it works
[02:00] <foutrelis> :)
[02:00] <tont> anyone know of a irc client for ubuntu that has a gui?
[02:00] <threeonefour_> Slart, i under stand binary so i converted it from bin to dec
[02:00] <emet> tont, xchat
[02:00] <facugaich> tont, XChat
[02:00] <`nicola> guys I don't remember the way to get the output in english, it wass something like ALL_LC command
[02:00] <tont> xchat it is
[02:00] <tont> hehe
[02:00] <Slart> tont: xchat is available.. both normal and with gnome goodness
[02:00] <foutrelis> I use opera for irc. rules :)
[02:00] <facugaich> Where do I put a command I want executed when I login?
[02:01] <justin___> foutrelis: Same here
[02:01] <threeonefour_> Slart, do you know how to config colinux for M$
[02:01] <Slart> threeonefour_: hehe.. and the people asking about file permissions here will be able to do that? =)
I tried it all but things seem ok. so I will try the record again
[02:01] <enjahova> how can i start ubuntu without loading gnome?
[02:01] <foutrelis> jughead: Here is a cool smiley 8-) :P
[02:01] <thoreauputic> techie_: check your capture settings perhaps
[02:01] <Slart> threeonefour_: absolutely no idea..I think I've heard of it..
[02:01] <justin___> I also use it for browsing, email, taking notes, and calculating (calculating with a seperate widget)
[02:01] <juice`> please help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2267569
[02:01] <PriceChild> enjahova, you could remove gdm from init.d.... I "think" that'll do it
[02:01] <tont> xchat is alittle better
[02:01] <tont> hehe
[02:01] <emet> enjahova, you can change the session in gdm
[02:01] <foutrelis> enjahova: You can stop gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:02] <nrdb> Hi, I copied my 6.06 installation and then upgraded it to 6.10 and the 6.10 installation won't work my monitor, :( the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is the same as on my 6.06 installation, but the monitor say 'out of sync', I am using the 'mga' video driver.  can anyone sugest a fix ?
[02:02] <enjahova> PriceChild: if gdm loads it starts repeating a very annoying sound cuz my sound drivers are messed up
[02:02] <cellofellow> hey, how do I get ahold of libdockapp (not libdockapp2)
[02:02] <enjahova> also gdm wont get past the loading screen
[02:02] <cellofellow> !libdockapp
i tried the sound recorder and no matter how I record I hear a beep when I play back.
[02:02] <wapityyy> hi, does anyone know the command line to launch mysql in ubuntu ?
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdockapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <emet> wapityyy, "mysql"
[02:02] <PriceChild> enjahova, you can disable the sound in system > admin > login window
[02:02] <Slart> wapityyy: mysql?
I am using record as voice, lossless
[02:02] <thoreauputic> techie_: sorry, I'm no sound guru I fear
[02:03] <threeonefour_> enjahova, or you could just switch ttys    to do that is  alt + ctrl + f1
[02:03] <wapityyy> Slart: yes mysql..
[02:03] <Slart> wapityyy: there are some other executables.. but they all start with mysql
but you are a true helper... thanks fro the attempt
[02:03] <foutrelis> wapityyy: Maybe sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:03] <thoreauputic> techie_: if you see crimsun he might help you ( he is a sound guru) :)
[02:03] <Slart> wapityyy: eh.. no.. you type "mysql", I seem to remember
probably is a matter of playing with the microphone etc...
[02:03] <wapityyy> thx
ok, if you see him tell him I need help in that area also. Thanks.
[02:03] <thoreauputic> techie_: yes, there are a lot of permutations unfortunately
[02:03] <will> Can someone help me connect my MP3 player to the computer?
understood, especially when it deals with sound!
[02:04] <will> I have all the cables connected right but Gnome doesn't see it.
[02:04] <enjahova> threeonefour_:  yeah i used that
[02:04] <Slart> will: type this in a terminal "tail -f /var/log/syslog", unplug the thing and plug it in again.. tell me if anything pops up in that window
[02:05] <enjahova> for some reason aplay is messing up bad
[02:05] <kazuka> does anyone know how to download google calendar in ubuntu?
[02:05] <Slart> will: use pastebin if it's a lot of text paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:06] <DesertEagle> anyone know where i can look for help with my system no outputing any sound what-so-ever?
[02:06] <JakeTFG> Can someone help me connect to the internet?
[02:06] <will> Slart,  This is when I unplugged it until it went back in:
[02:06] <will> Mar  8 20:05:28 will-desktop kernel: [17186648.480000]  usb 5-6: USB disconnect, address 8
[02:06] <will> Mar  8 20:05:48 will-desktop kernel: [17186668.648000]  usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[02:06] <will> Mar  8 20:05:48 will-desktop kernel: [17186668.812000]  usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:06] <LjL> !paste > will    (will, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:06] <enjahova> !sound
[02:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:07] <Slart> will: pastebin.. go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and report back the url
[02:07] <enjahova> DesertEagle: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[02:07] <enjahova> its where im looking right now
[02:07] <Bac9> when doing `ulimit -n 2048` as a regular user I get "ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted", what can I do to change the limit?
[02:07] <Slart> Bac9: tried it with sudo first?
[02:07] <foutrelis> !sudo | Bac9
[02:07] <foutrelis> :)
[02:07] <ubotu> Bac9: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <usr13> How can I watch this on my Ubuntu system? http://www.funny-video-stuff.com/viewmovie.php?ad_key=QJJEPLYOBQNF&tracking_id=623004&type=wmv&source=623004&path=/2007/01/24/1/redneckslingshot.wmv
[02:08] <DesertEagle> thank you enjahova!
[02:08] <Slart> usr13: download it and use vlc player
[02:08] <DesertEagle> :)
[02:08] <will> Slart, , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9352/
[02:08] <erisco> !+ftp
[02:08] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:08] <Slart> will: ok, I'll have a look.. be right back
[02:08] <Bac9> Slart, foutrelis: but I don't want to run the apps as a superuser, (these are apps I run remotly so I can't expect it to prompt me for root password every time)
[02:08] <will> Slart, Okay.
[02:08] <amicrawler> how do i tell what ver i'm runing of ubuntu
[02:08] <erisco> Nautilus also has an FTP client??
[02:09] <Slart> will: that's all? what kind of mp3-player is it?
[02:09] <omegacenti> IS ident udp or tcp?
[02:09] <will> Creative Zen V.
[02:09] <usr13> Slart: I can't figure out where the file is?
[02:09] <juice`> seems like many people have the same bug as i am
[02:09] <juice`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964
[02:09] <will> Slart, Creative Zen V.
[02:09] <omegacenti> !ident
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <will> Slart, BRB.
[02:09] <juice`> ubuntu going down ? :(
[02:09] <erisco> does anyone know of FTP clients (other than gFTP because it is extremely crashy) that will do FSP connections?
[02:09] <usr13> I just get viewmovie.php
[02:09] <erisco> !+fsp
[02:09] <Slart> usr13: or open vlc and use open file dialog.. and paste the url there
[02:09] <ubotu> fsp: client utilities for File Service Protocol (FSP). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.81.b24-1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[02:09] <wapityyy> hmmm synaptic says i have mysql client, but its not in services
[02:09] <juice`> nobody cares for critical bugs that has 3 months, nice
[02:10] <jjholt> anyone tried the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 via update-manager yet
[02:10] <nrdb> usr13: mplayer-mozilla works too.
[02:10] <LjL> !feisty > jjholt    (jjholt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:10] <Chetwin> Just as before, nvidia driver install failed
[02:10] <nrdb> Hi, I copied my 6.06 installation and then upgraded it to 6.10 and the 6.10 installation won't work my monitor, :( the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is the same as on my 6.06 installation, but the monitor say 'out of sync', I am using the 'mga' video driver. (the 6.10 desktop cd does the same thing)  can anyone sugest a fix ?
[02:10] <Slart> will: ouch.. I think you're out of look then.. Creatives players don't act as removable drives when connected.. so you can't just pop them in a transfer mp3 to them.. you'll have to get some software that handles your player
[02:10] <erisco> does anyone know how to connect to a server through front page extensions?
[02:11] <Chetwin> I followed all of the howto, and still, failure
[02:11] <Slart> Chetwin: have you tried downloading the driver from nvidias site?
[02:11] <Chetwin> Yes
[02:11] <Chetwin> Same result
[02:11] <facugaich> Where do I put a command I want executed when I login?
[02:11] <Chetwin> I run nvidia-xconfig
[02:11] <Slart> any errors?
[02:11] <Chetwin> Then restart
[02:12] <Chetwin> X wont start
[02:12] <LjL> !startup > facugaich    (facugaich, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:12] <Slart> I've never had to run nvidia-xconfig.. well well..
[02:12] <amicrawler> how do i tell what ver i'm runing of ubuntu
[02:12] <Chetwin> With automatix it was working fine on my last install
[02:12] <Chetwin> Now that automatix's server is down I can not reinstall it properly
[02:12] <will> Slart, I have the option of dedicating a portion of it to a removable idsk.
[02:13] <Chetwin> So frustrated
[02:13] <will> Disk.*
[02:13] <omegacenti> !modesetting
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modesetting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <thoreauputic> facugaich: for gnome, in ~/,gnomerc ( you have to create the file)
[02:13] <omegacenti> Anyone had any experience with modesetting?
[02:13] <LjL> modesetting?
[02:13] <Slart> Chetwin: I'm talking about the big file.. NVIDIA bla bla bla numbers etc .sh.. you run it and it offers to download kernel modules and everything?
[02:13] <stiv2k> how can I change my interface name from eth1 to eth0
[02:13] <amicrawler> how do i tell what ver i'm runing of ubuntu
[02:13] <amicrawler> how do i tell what ver i'm runing of ubuntu
[02:13] <amicrawler> how do i tell what ver i'm runing of ubuntu
[02:13] <stiv2k> to avoid confusion in the future
[02:13] <will> Slart, If I put it on that partition do you think I could transfer that without software?
[02:13] <preaction> !repeat | amicrawler
[02:13] <thoreauputic> facugaich: that should be ~/.gnomerc
[02:13] <Slart> will: yes... but you won't be able to play any files you put there
[02:13] <ubotu> amicrawler: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:13] <Chetwin> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run Yes
[02:13] <will> Slart,  Okay.
[02:13] <will> Thanks.
[02:14] <stiv2k> how can i rename my interface from eth1 to eth0 to avoid confusion
[02:14] <will> Slart, How do you know this stuff anyway?
[02:14] <preaction> LjL: nice response time
[02:14] <facugaich> thoreauputic, LjL answered me already, thank you anyways!
[02:14] <buchanp> how do i stop rhythmbox from auto launching every time i plug in my ipod?
[02:14] <Slart> will: but do a search in synaptic for creative zen.. there might be sometihng there..
[02:14] <will> Okay.
[02:14] <juice`> patience... yes, that's needed
[02:14] <Slart> will: because I have one of those myself.. I hate creative now =)
[02:14] <thoreauputic> facugaich: ah, I missed it  - sorry :)
[02:14] <juice`> bug that has 3 months, and is stopping me from using ubuntu
[02:14] <usr13> nrdb:  "Cant find package mplayer-mozilla
[02:14] <juice`> i need more patience, thats my answer :|
[02:14] <Chetwin> So I'm screwed
[02:14] <Chetwin> Awesome
[02:15] <will> Slart,  Ah, I just use my Win partition for transfer.
[02:15] <will> It's a nice device, so I don't hate them.
[02:15] <omegacenti> Okay, it seems there is an issue with Xorg and Intel chipsets in relation to video bios available modes, does anyone have any suggestions as to workarounds for this?
[02:15] <Slart> Chetwin: ah.. didn't see your reply there.. sorry.. well.. then I just don't know what to do.. it has worked every time for me..
[02:15] <preaction> Chetwin: no, you're not. you just might have to do some manual fun
[02:15] <stiv2k> how can i rename my interface from eth1 to eth0 to avoid confusion
[02:15] <preaction> Chetwin: you tried installing the driver manually from the nvidia site?
[02:15] <jjholt> I have yet to find a fully working driver for my video card
[02:15] <Chetwin> yes
[02:16] <buchanp> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from auto launching every time i plug in my ipod?  or change the mime type to launch amarok instead?
[02:16] <Slart> will: hehe.. if you really really wanted you could try running their software using wine
[02:16] <LjL> stiv2k: i suppose you don't have a card at eth0?
[02:16] <Slart> !wine
[02:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:16] <preaction> Chetwin: and now x won't start?
[02:16] <priich> will, have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[02:16] <juice`> omegacenti: i got the same issue, but i dont care as i can't even start ubuntu as there is even bigger issue with intel+jmicron that just doesnt support hard drives
[02:16] <mentaluproar> http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html I tried using that and I couldn't access the ntfs partitions.
[02:16] <nrdb> usr13: its mozilla-mplayer sorry
[02:16] <jjholt> unichrome IGP linux support blows
[02:16] <stiv2k> LjL: correct
[02:17] <stiv2k> LjL: i had one, removed it, put this one in and when i booted up it came up as eth1
[02:17] <mentaluproar> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675 wrong link
[02:17] <LjL> stiv2k: then do a cat /etc/iftab - that should give you a clue (i.e., the system remembers interfaces by MAC address, so if you change the eth1 line to say eth0, or simply remove that line, the system should use the name eth0 next time)
[02:17] <omegacenti> juice`: Sounds yummy.
[02:17] <omegacenti> Anyone else care to enlighten me? :)
[02:17] <stiv2k> LjL: thanks
[02:17] <LjL> stiv2k: yeah, i thought you had done that :)
[02:17] <enjahova> Does anyone know if ALSA has an irc channel
[02:17] <Slart> enjahova: it probably has.. tried #alsa ?
[02:18] <buchanp> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from auto launching every time i plug in my ipod?  or change the mime type to launch amarok instead?
[02:18] <LjL> enjahova: #alsa seems a reasonable guess, as /who #alsa would confirm
[02:18] <thoreauputic> facugaich: heh I just looked at the ubotu factoid page for "startup" - typing a couple of commands in ~/.gnomerc is much quicker and easier in my opinion - I must be old school :)
[02:18] <crdlb> thoreauputic, is ~/.gnomerc from gnome 1.x ?
[02:19] <mentaluproar> I still can gain access to my ntfs partition on theinternal.  I did gain read-only access to the USB NTFS
[02:19] <mentaluproar> *still cannot
[02:19] <usr13> nrdb:  Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[02:19] <thoreauputic> crdlb: well, it can still be used - i don't remember ( premature senility no doubt) ;p
[02:19] <will> Slart, Yeah.
[02:19] <will> I tried that.
[02:19] <javb> my USB is 1GB, but, in Ubuntu, when i hotplug it it gives me about 200MB ... any ideas?
[02:20] <wapityyy> I cant get mysql to work, i downloaded it with synaptic... but its not in the services :S anyone knows what i should do ?
[02:20] <buchanp> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from auto launching every time i plug in my ipod?  or change the mime type to launch amarok instead?
[02:20] <Slart> will: didn't work? (I haven't tried it)
[02:20] <will> Slart,  No, .dll wasn't compatible.
[02:20] <mjunx> it's mozilla-mplayer
[02:20] <buchanp> wapityyy, make sure you downloaded mysql server not just the client
[02:20] <will> Well, bye.
[02:20] <preaction> javb: did you try re-formatting it? try formatting it as FAT32?
[02:20] <mjunx> but it's in multiverse
[02:20] <nrdb> usr13: you might have to enable a different repository, maybe universe
[02:21] <Pelo> yesterday I manage to set up a cpu frequency modulator on a Celeron D on a desktop, but occasionnaly when the cpu is not working full speed I get a squeeking noise comming from my box ... should I worry ?
[02:21] <Joshooa> Can I get some opinions from any of you on why you use Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu?
[02:21] <omegacenti> Noone else on a laptop that has an Intel Chipset?
[02:21] <buchanp> Pelo, yes
[02:21] <buchanp> keep a fire extinguisher thingy handy
[02:21] <Slart> Pelo: squeaking noise? it's not just the cpu fan?
[02:21] <javb> preaction how can i format under ubuntu ?
[02:21] <Pelo> Joshooa,  it's a question of preference,  I like the look and feel of gnome,  and I don'T realy care for the look and feels of kde
[02:22] <javb> (sorry, newbie, havent done it unless installing it)
[02:22] <preaction> javb: open System > Administration > Disks
[02:22] <buchanp> javb, mkfs formats pretty well
[02:22] <Pelo> Slart,  I would say it's the fans but it only does that when the cpu is underclocking
[02:22] <Slart> Joshooa: because I kind of like gnome.. and I found ubuntu before I found out there was kubuntu
[02:22] <omegacenti> Also, Is Qparted the application that resizes harddrive partitions? and if so, I couldn't find it in the synaptics package manager.
[02:22] <Joshooa> Pelo: Hmm, cause I installed Ubuntu off a DVD, heard lots that Kubuntu was better, did that, lots of stuff from Gnome didn't work, and now I just crashed Kubuntu and can't get back in
[02:22] <omegacenti> Okay, it seems there is an issue with Xorg and Intel chipsets in relation to video bios available modes, does anyone have any suggestions as to workarounds for this?
[02:22] <Pelo> buchanp,  the fans are working ok ,  I just get an odd sqeek
[02:22] <Joshooa> That doesn't sound like they are "pretty much the same" to me
[02:23] <Joshooa> Is ubuntu more stable?
[02:23] <crdlb> omegacenti, you're thinking of qtparted, but there is also gparted which is the gnome version
[02:23] <Slart> Pelo: well. perhaps the fans change speed when the cpu isn't used fully.. and perhaps the fan only makes noise at a certain speed.. just guessing here
[02:23] <preaction> Joshooa: they're the same OS with different desktop managers
[02:23] <Pelo> Joshooa, congrats , you crashed a linux distro, almost impossible
[02:23] <javb> preaction i dont that 'Disks' option at my System>Administration ?
[02:23] <omegacenti> crdlb: Thanks :)
[02:23] <jjholt> is there any ubuntu tool that allow me to change the cpu scaling
[02:23] <preaction> Joshooa: what do you mean by "crashed"
[02:23] <Blinocac200sx> E: The package aim needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[02:23] <priich> omegacenti, i run some third party app to work around that issue.
[02:23] <Blinocac200sx> How can I fix this?
[02:23] <omegacenti> priich: Which one is that?
[02:23] <preaction> javb: Disks Manager or something similar? for some reason it's not on my system either... it was on dapper...
[02:23] <tont> anyone know of a good mp3 player that isnt automatix2?
[02:24] <Slart> Joshooa: they are pretty much the same.. I can install KDE on my ubuntu system and have it behave almost like Kubuntu.. I think
[02:24] <Joshooa> maybe I didn't technically, but whatever I did, I deleted a file and put it in the trash, then the disk was too full to empty trash or read manuals
[02:24] <create> i have a quick easy question if anyone has ~30 seconds
[02:24] <buchanp> Blinocac200sx, i think you broke it
[02:24] <Pelo> Slart, could be but the fans are also controled ,  and they don'T do it at other times, well,  I'll see I guess, it's just a bit annoying
[02:24] <priich> i855 somethingsomething. hang on, let me check
[02:24] <buchanp> tont, amarok
[02:24] <Slart> !ask | create
[02:24] <ubotu> create: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:24] <Joshooa> Slart: Wouldn't that make it Kubuntu then th ough?
[02:24] <omegacenti> priich: I am using 815resolution if that is the same thing.
[02:24] <jjholt> tont xmms has always worked or me
[02:24] <create> lol, oki
[02:24] <omegacenti> 915resolution*
[02:24] <crdlb> create, I've got 29 seconds, is that enough?
[02:24] <create> i am looking for a usenet reader for linux (ubuntu) that supports the use of nzb files
[02:24] <preaction> Joshooa: if the disk is too full, remove stuff as root. root always has some extra disk space set aside for it. you'll have to do it from a terminal probably
[02:24] <create> any suggestions ?
[02:25] <crdlb> create, have you tried pan?
[02:25] <Slart> Joshooa: yes.. perhaps... but if you start asking if KDE is better than gnome.. they you're into a whole new flamewar.. ;)
[02:25] <tont> thank you :)
[02:25] <buchanp> tont, amarok has a nice mysql backend if you have a huge music library,  other than that xmms is tried and true
[02:25] <buchanp> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from auto launching every time i plug in my ipod?  or change the mime type to launch amarok instead?
[02:25] <mentaluproar> some help me transfer fron an internal NTFS partition to an external one
[02:25] <tont> yeah i dont have a huge library
[02:25] <javb> does someone know another GUI way to do that?
[02:25] <Slart> create: I have no idea.. haven't read any news on linux yet
[02:25] <tont> ill give xmms a try
[02:25] <Joshooa> preaction: No, I did that, no matter what I removed, disk was full still, even when I got it down to 7.1GB out of 7.4GB, it said 100% used and couldn't do anything
[02:25] <tont> thank you
[02:25] <wapityyy> buchanp: ok, i have the mysql server now... but i still dont see how to make it work lol :S
[02:25] <crdlb> buchanp, run gnome-volume-properties
[02:25] <mjunx> oh my, someone hates kde? ;_;
[02:25] <crdlb> and it's in the menu
[02:25] <buchanp> wapityyy, /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[02:25] <preaction> javb: is gparted installed? gnome-partition perhaps?
[02:25] <Joshooa> Then I did a reboot and couldn't log in to Kabuntu, went to terminal and logged it, could use startx, rm'd some stuff again, tried startx and I came into Ubuntu as root
[02:25] <mjunx> check out blackbox, then
[02:26] <Pelo> mjunx,  everyone but  linux hates kde
[02:26] <thoreauputic> buchanp: System - Preferences - Removable Drives and Media probably
[02:26] <Pelo> eveyone but linus
[02:26] <create> crdlb: will chek it out, thanks :)
[02:26] <mjunx> and all the kde users...
[02:26] <omegacenti> priich: Which application was that again for the workaround?
[02:26] <omegacenti> !intel
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <javb> preaction, installing it.
[02:26] <buchanp> crdlb, thats it!
[02:26] <buchanp> thank you
[02:26] <Joshooa> I think that today I will reformat everything and then jsut stick with Ubuntu instead of going for Kubuntu
[02:26] <jjholt> anyway to change the cpu freq w/o using the terminal
[02:26] <omegacenti> Joshooa: Sounds good to me. :)
[02:27] <preaction> jjholt: "change the cpu freq"? you mean Overclock?
[02:27] <wapityyy> buchanp: there  is mysql, mysql-ndb, mysql-ndb-mgm, but no mysqld
[02:27] <Slart> jjholt: you mean like a power saving thing?
[02:27] <preaction> jjholt: only way i know of to do that requires messing with the BIOS
[02:27] <Joshooa> omegacenti: Me too, but I did think KDE was prettier
[02:27] <chriskk> wapityyy: try ps -A | grep mysqld
[02:27] <jjholt> preaction:  no cpu scaling yeah power managment
[02:27] <Slart> jjholt: unless you have that AMD trhingy.. cool something
[02:27] <buchanp> wapityyy, yeah its mysql not mysqld
[02:27] <foutrelis> wapityyy: What version of myslq do you want? 4 or 5?
[02:27] <omegacenti> Joshooa: Wouldn't know, haven't tried out KDE before, as I am very new to Linux.
[02:27] <Pelo> jjholt,  do you mean lowering the cpu freq when the system is not loaded ?
[02:28] <jjholt> Slart:  Pentium-M
[02:28] <wapityyy> 5
[02:28] <thoreauputic> buchanp: heh - thats; the same thing I told you with the menu path :)
[02:28] <Joshooa> omegacenti: Me too, I haven't used it a week yet
[02:28] <jjholt> Pelo:  yeah
[02:28] <Slart> jjholt: I use the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 2.16.1 on gnome
[02:28] <buchanp> wapityyy, /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:28] <foutrelis> wapityyy: Have you tried apt-get install mysql-server-5.0?
[02:28] <wapityyy>  ps -A | grep mysqld
[02:28] <wapityyy>  9063 ?        00:00:00 mysqld_safe
[02:28] <wapityyy>  9256 ?        00:00:00 mysqld
[02:28] <Joshooa> omegacenti: I just did the apt-get install thingy and I was in it, and it was pretty, but I broke it so here i am back in Ubuntu :) Cleaner look anyway
[02:28] <jjholt> Slart:  that installed by default?
[02:28] <Pelo> jjholt, http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html
[02:28] <omegacenti> Slart: Is that the exact name? In other words, how would I execute that from a command line?
[02:28] <Slart> jjholt: I don't remember.. but it's in the repos for sure
[02:28] <buchanp> thoreauputic, your right too :P  thanks both of you guys this has been annoyin the hell out of me
[02:29] <wapityyy> woah
[02:29] <wapityyy> i keep getting permission denied
[02:29] <omegacenti> Joshooa: What do you mean, you can apt-get install KDE?
[02:29] <omegacenti> Joshooa: Or even kubuntu
[02:29] <LjL> !kde > omegacenti    (omegacenti, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:29] <briguyd> jjholt, yeah its installed by default, click your top panel and select add to panel, then find it
[02:29] <Pelo> jjholt,  that is just to start with,  don'T install the cpufreq, just do the bit with modprobe, then install the frequency manager in the pannel applets
[02:29] <Slart> omegacenti, jjholt: I think it's an applet.. you add it to your gnome bar by right clicking, selecting add and selecting it
[02:29] <omegacenti> LjL: Wow, can those run simultaneously?
[02:29] <foutrelis> wapityyy: What are you trying to do and you get 'permission denied' ?
[02:29] <LjL> omegacenti: yes. not by the same user at the same time, though
[02:30] <omegacenti> Slart: Ah then I already have that on the bar. IT doesn't seem to allow me to change freq though.
[02:30] <chriskk> wapityyy: did you setup the root password?
[02:30] <Joshooa> !kde | omegacenti
[02:30] <ubotu> omegacenti: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[02:30] <Joshooa> omegacenti: I did that
[02:30] <wapityyy> foutrelis: i am just trying to open the mysql
[02:30] <LjL> omegacenti: or at least not by standard means. you can log out of your GNOME and log into your KDE quite fine anyway.
[02:30] <chriskk> wapityyy: usually that's the first thing you do
[02:30] <Slart> omegacenti: what happens when you left click it?
[02:30] <omegacenti> one sec.
[02:30] <priich> omegacenti, heh seems like i'm using  855resolution.  but i also have i855crt in there.
[02:30] <buchanp> wapityyy, you have to login and set the root password
[02:30] <omegacenti> Slart: Nothing.
[02:30] <LjL> omegacenti: just about the only nuisance is that your GNOME menu gets filled with KDE apps, and vice versa
[02:30] <wapityyy> chriskk: i juyst typed sudo mysql start
[02:30] <omegacenti> priich: I have 915 or something.
[02:30] <buchanp> wapityyy, thats not how to start the mysql server
[02:31] <wapityyy> ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'start'
[02:31] <Joshooa> omegacenti: Don't jump into it, it's really cool, and i've learned a lot, but I am also about to reformat and reinstall Windows and Ubuntu now cause I broke Kubuntu
[02:31] <omegacenti> LjL: Well thats not good.
[02:31] <Slart> omegacenti: hmm... right click.. select preferences.. last item.. set it to frequencies and governors
[02:31] <wapityyy> buchanp: than how ?
[02:31] <foutrelis> wapityyy: I use phpmyadmin to interact with my databases. :\
[02:31] <mjunx> wapityyy, to start mysql server, do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:31] <buchanp> wapityyy, you start mysql server /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:31] <wapityyy> foutrelis: usually me 2
[02:31] <Joshooa> omegacenti: But it was really pretty and rand really nice for a little bit, I liked the bouncing icon it had
[02:31] <emet> how I do PEAP in ubuntu
[02:31] <chriskk> wapityyy: that's to start it
[02:31] <mjunx> to edit your database, do mysql databasename
[02:31] <emet> PEAP wifi
[02:31] <omegacenti> Slart: The thing at the bottom is show CPU as freq... we might be talking about different apllets?
[02:31] <LjL> omegacenti: well, it can't be helped. lots of people *purposely* use KDE apps under GNOME (and vice versa), so you certainly can't just leave them out of the menu...  you can remove them manually of course, it's some minutes of work
[02:31] <buchanp> make surey ou stop your current mysql processes
[02:31] <ricky> is there anyone there who can help me with a couple of questions....or do I need to wait for a turn....thanks
[02:31] <chriskk> wapityyy: to connect to mysql you type: mysql -u <username like root> -p
[02:31] <EvilDennisR> Hey, been an avid Debian user for 10+ years, just installed ubuntu desktop on my machine at work here.. What the hell is my default root password ?
[02:31] <buchanp> ricky, ask your question
[02:32] <Slart> omegacenti: oh.. what processor are you using.. and you might have to install the drivers for the power save thingy
[02:32] <wapityyy> :S
[02:32] <wapityyy> why cant it be simple
[02:32] <omegacenti> LjL: Ah, i didn't know you could use kde applications withing gnome
[02:32] <Slart> omegacenti: or kernel module.. or whatever it's called
[02:32] <wapityyy> just lcick the damn thing and open lmao
[02:32] <foutrelis> wapityyy: I get a LAMP environment by issuing sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin
[02:32] <buchanp> wapityyy, becuase you cant read the manual :P
[02:32] <foutrelis> wapityyy: And then set a root password with phpmyadmin :)
[02:32] <omegacenti> Slart: A 1.73 Ghz Intel Centrino (laptop)
[02:32] <ricky> recently installed ubuntu: wanting to change the boot default from ubuntu to windows....for my mom's sake....she is completely illiterate.
[02:32] <wapityyy> ok
[02:32] <buchanp> wapityyy, webmin has a good mysql plugin for administration
[02:32] <wapityyy> i have phpmyadmin....
[02:32] <chriskk> EvilDennisR: I don't think there is a root password, you do 'sudo <command>' to run things
[02:33] <LjL> omegacenti: you sure can. for instance, plenty of people use Amarok under GNOME because they like it better than the alternatives - just to cite a popular example. of course, when you install one KDE app, a lot of KDE libraries will be installed together with it.
[02:33] <omegacenti> !l amarok
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l amarok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <LjL> !amarok
[02:33] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[02:33] <buchanp> Amarok + mysql = <3
[02:33] <EvilDennisR> chriskk: What? How can you not have a rootpasswd
[02:33] <buchanp> ricky, whats the problem
[02:33] <Frogzoo> ricky: move the windows config in menu.lst to the top above the autogen stuff, so it's now default 0
[02:33] <LjL> !root > EvilDennisR,    (EvilDennisR,, see the private message from Ubotu) easily
[02:34] <wapityyy> buchanp: ok so look ,i have mysql server, and i have phpmyadmin... now how do i make it work lol ?
[02:34] <foutrelis> wapityyy: Then you should be able to login into phpmyadmin by going to localhost/phpmyadmin and entering username: root password: (blank) :)
[02:34] <dougie> how do you disable that damn shift backspace crap
[02:34] <Slart> omegacenti: try installing the cpufreqd .. "sudo apt-get install cpufreqd"
[02:34] <klaus> your root pasword is the same as the password that u log into the computer with
[02:34] <ricky> my mom is computer illeterate, and we share this computer....wanting to change the default boot up from ubuntu to windows, for her.
[02:34] <LjL> !language | dougie
[02:34] <ubotu> dougie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <chriskk> !root  > chriskk
[02:34] <foutrelis> wapityyy: How did you install phpmyadmin?
[02:34] <Frogzoo> ricky: move the windows config in menu.lst to the top above the autogen stuff, so it's now default 0
[02:34] <LjL> dougie: that would only happen if you're using Xgl, which means you should be asking in #ubuntu-effects rather than here
[02:34] <EvilDennisR> LjL: Yeah, I understand how to use sudo
[02:34] <wapityyy> foutrelis: synaptic
[02:34] <priich> omegacenti, according to http://perso.orange.fr/apoirier/                     855resolution works with i915 as well.
[02:34] <omegacenti> priich: Oh?
[02:34] <dougie> hmm...ok
[02:35] <foutrelis> wapityyy: See my previous message. Hope it helps :)
[02:35] <LjL> EvilDennisR: well, then you know that, by the standard Ubuntu setup, there's no root password whatsoever
[02:35] <Joshooa> Is Amarok originally for Gnome?
[02:35] <ricky> just click, and hold down, then move it up? is that right?
[02:35] <EvilDennisR> my root passwd is not the same as my user passwd
[02:35] <omegacenti> priich: That might solve my problems then.
[02:35] <LjL> Joshooa: uh, definitely not
[02:35] <Frogzoo> Joshooa: no kde, works fine on gnome
[02:35] <LjL> EvilDennisR: that means you don't have a standard Ubuntu setup.
[02:35] <wapityyy> foutrelis: ok it works
[02:35] <wapityyy> omfg thx
[02:35] <javb> Using Beryl/AIGLX ... and like every 5 to 7 minutes it freezes for about 5 to 8 seconds and then continues.. any ideas?
[02:35] <foutrelis> np :)
[02:35] <premier_> hello.  my usb devices are preventing my computer from hibernating
[02:35] <EvilDennisR> LjL: Errrm.... Why?
[02:35] <premier_> can any one help me?
[02:35] <foutrelis> !ask | premier_
[02:35] <ubotu> premier_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:36] <Frogzoo> premier_: we don't know yet
[02:36] <EvilDennisR> LjL: I downloaded the standard desktop cd from the website..
[02:36] <LjL> EvilDennisR: uh... because the standard Ubuntu setup comes with no root password at all, just as i said (and exploits sudo instead). are we running in circles :)
[02:36] <Joshooa> Okay, I thought so at first, but then that thing up there said packages are available for Kubuntu, so I th ought it needed extra stuff to make it work in KDE
[02:36] <tbuss> very new to linux, was wondering how to stream movies from a windows comp to ubuntu. I'm able to share files between the two, just not movies
[02:36] <javb> .... :S
[02:36] <mjunx> tbuss, are you sharing the files via samba/smb/cifs?
[02:36] <ricky> and one other question,  buchanp, i need to get into BIOS, and i used to be able to press F8 while booting but no more.....know anything about that. thanks
[02:36] <LjL> EvilDennisR: then, unless you changed something manually, you have no root password set, and you use sudo (with your user password) instead. if that's not the case, something went wrong during the install.
[02:37] <Frogzoo> tbuss: use gxine, and bump up the video/audio buffers
[02:37] <priich> omegacenti, you might wanna install 855resolution from repos, then download from apoiriers page and build that and replace the one in /usr/sbin     with your newly built one. It seems that has solved some problems for some peeps according to :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92761.html
[02:37] <tbuss> not sure? I know the address of the windows computer starts with smb://
[02:37] <premier_> Frogzoo: okay, well, it locks the screen (im using kubuntu btw, but nobody at #kubuntu could help) and then it goes to a terminal window, and it says something about usb returing -16.  It use to the deliver me back to my screen saver, but now it just stalls
[02:37] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[02:37] <omegacenti> priich: But you are using an intel chipset? and also, can you set it to 800x600 ?
[02:37] <buchanp> ricky, try hitting escape at the very beginning maybe your missing a prompt?  might want to google the model name and maker to see if theres a documented key combination for the bios
[02:37] <mjunx> tbuss, then you can just play the videos via that
[02:37] <omegacenti> priich: On a laptop as well I mean.
[02:38] <mjunx> well, I know you can in kde >_>
[02:38] <mjunx> !samba >me
[02:38] <EvilDennisR> LjL: Ah rigght on... I used sudo to change the root passwd.. All is well
[02:38] <Frogzoo> premier_: don't ask me - 900 other people here
[02:38] <Joshooa> If i hit ctrl+shift+F2, shouldn't it bring up a terminal thing or whatever, go to a text window? and F7 for GUI?
[02:38] <priich> omegacenti, i have mine at 1200x800
[02:38] <mjunx> !samba >tbuss
[02:38] <mjunx> there ya go
[02:38] <omegacenti> priich: Do the magic ubotu thing so I can learn how to build. :p
[02:38] <ricky> yes, thanks.....i am going to try those things....and i may be back, and i really appreciate your help
[02:38] <SilentDis> Joshooa, yes.  ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6 should be terminals, and ctrl-alt-f7 should be xwindows
[02:38] <foutrelis> Joshooa: ctrl + alt + f1 :)
[02:38] <omegacenti> priich: Do you have the ability to set it to 800x600?
[02:38] <tbuss> I tried to open the files in mplayer and others, nothing happens. I checked codecs but shouldn't matter the files are avi
[02:38] <Slart> anyone here using eclipse?
[02:38] <buchanp> take care guys im out
[02:39] <premier_> Slart: i am
[02:39] <Slart> !ask | slart
[02:39] <SilentDis> !anyone | Slart
[02:39] <ubotu> Slart: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:39] <Slart> premier_: installed it using the repositories?
[02:39] <mjunx> someone should add some humour to ubotu
[02:39] <LjL> EvilDennisR: not necessarily a good idea, since that's been known to break some (admittedly small) things in previous Ubuntu versions. besides, everything can be done with sudo, what's wrong with it? (unless you care so much about security that you *only* login as root for a short time from a virtual console, and remove sudo privileges from your user)
[02:39] <premier_> Slart: dont remember
[02:39] <mjunx> or change his name to batou so we can have an inside joke
[02:39] <poningru> mjunx: bwhahahahaha
[02:39] <Slart> premier_: I installed it and it's not working.. I just see the splash screen and then it exits
[02:39] <LjL> !funny-manpages | mjunx
[02:40] <ubotu> mjunx: funny-manpages: more funny manpages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-5 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 140 kB
[02:40] <mjunx> I knows about them
[02:40] <priich> omegacenti, i didn't add that to the vbios but i guess i could. I have the ability to use 1200x800 (my native resolution now) and that wasn't working before (without the 855resolution thingie.)
[02:40] <SilentDis> mjunx, head over to #ubuntu-offtopic and make ubugtu tell you things about @futurama, @bauer, @chuck, and @ferengi :)
[02:40] <mjunx> man sex
[02:40] <mjunx> hmm, cool
[02:40] <bigcx2> Slart: what happens you run it from a terminal
[02:40] <vitalstatistix> does anyone here have suspend to ram working on a sony laptop?
[02:40] <premier_> Slart: try running it from the command line with the option -Xmx128M
[02:40] <premier_> Slart: how much ram does your computer have?
[02:41] <tbuss> noob question. is there a way to save a snapshot of some of the advise
[02:41] <LjL> SilentDis, mjunx: #ubuntu-bots would be a better idea, if you're going to check those databases extensively ;)
[02:41] <Slart> premier_: 2Gb
[02:41] <SilentDis> vitalstatistix, i've been reading over quite a few people having a lot of problems in the various debian planet blogs with suspend-to-* :P
[02:41] <Ashex> !laptop | vitalstatistix
[02:41] <ubotu> vitalstatistix: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:41] <SilentDis> LjL, lol cool, thanks :)
[02:41] <premier_> Slart: try something like -Xmx512M
[02:41] <mjunx> vitalstatistix, I do (fs550)
[02:41] <Slart> bigcx2: it says "searching for compatible wm".. and then it finds java-gcj and then it ends
[02:42] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, what is your kernel command line?
[02:42] <tehquickness> I am importing a bunch of songs both mp3s and wmas, The files are in one folder names music, then with a seperate folder the main for each artist with the songs in there. Is there a simple scripts that will run through the whole thing recursively and delete all the wmas
[02:42] <Slart> bigcx2, premier: there is a log file that doesn't mean much to me.. hang on.. I'll paste bin it
[02:42] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, my lcd backlight never seems to come back on once I resume
[02:42] <mjunx> vitalstatistix, er, what?
[02:42] <mjunx> oh, hmm
[02:42] <Slart> premier_: same thing, even with switch
[02:43] <tbuss> frogzoo thanks for the info
[02:43] <omegacenti> priich: Alright the end all situation to all of this is I am a Diablo II fan. My issue of switching to Linux was that of the DRIVE_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSOD in windows.  Windows became inoperable. So, I decided to try using wine in a Linux Distro. The only thing is, the how-to in diabloII wine support said your monitor had to be able to switch to the resolution of either 640x480 or 800x600 in order to use the
[02:43] <omegacenti> game. Alas, I have not been able to switch to these resolutions for the life of me.  If you have any information on this, that would be greatly appreciated.
[02:43] <mjunx> sudo modprobe sonypi sony_acpi
[02:43] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, how does your kernel entry in your grub.conf look like
[02:43] <arrenlex> tehquickness: rm -r *.wma might work.
[02:43] <mjunx> oh, lemme check
[02:43] <tehquickness> Let me check I think I tried that
[02:43] <tehquickness> but maybe I tried rm -rD *.wma
[02:43] <mjunx> wait, you mean the menu.lst file?
[02:44] <Ashex> omegacenti, I've gotten Diablo II running under wine. But I cheated and used Cedega
[02:44] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, yes
[02:44] <Slart> bigcx2, premier: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9295/
[02:44] <SilentDis> omegacenti, just an fyi, while not a 'free' solution, I play many of the diablo style games (original diablo and starcraft) in !cedega without issue
[02:44] <Toma-> !fixres | omegacenti
[02:44] <ubotu> omegacenti: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:44] <mjunx> vitalstatistix, kernel      /vmlinuz-2.6.20-9-generic root=UUID=70a02a66-780d-4db0-8e95-d172a6182fbc ro quiet splash
[02:44] <kelsin> you can also "find -iname '*.wma' -exec rm {} ;" or something like that
[02:44] <kelsin> replace -exec rm with -exec echo {} ; to test
[02:44] <omegacenti> Ashex: What type of computer(laptop/desktop) and what type of video
[02:44] <tehquickness> or better yet is there a way to just copy out all the mp3s to another folder
[02:44] <bigcx2> iirc i had problems running eclipse on 64 bit ubuntu
[02:45] <codestorm> hi, does anyone know why Rhythmbox or Banshee might stop playing my music files. when Totem will still play them? i've made no changes to my system, so i'm lost as to what is going on.
[02:45] <tehquickness> maybe cp -r *.mp3 /forlder/to/copy/to
[02:45] <omegacenti> Toma-: I have literally tried every single thing in the tree of fixvideo REsolutionHowto. I appreciate the link, but I have exhausted that avenue of solutions.
[02:45] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, thanks did you fiddle with acpi scripts?
[02:45] <Toma-> omegacenti: i do beleive you can get wine to change resolution for you. I just cant remember how
[02:45] <bigcx2> i would file a bug and then download it from eclipse's web site
[02:45] <kelsin> tehquickness: find can help with both of those
[02:45] <tehquickness> hmm
[02:45] <Ashex> omegacenti, I had it running on a desktop computer, the video card was a 256MB Nvidia 6600
[02:45] <mjunx> find -iname '*.mp3' -execdir mv {} wherever/ +
[02:45] <Toma-> omegacenti: ok, well wants the error when changing resolution?
[02:45] <mjunx> vitalstatistix, no, default stuff
[02:45] <bigcx2> and put it in /opt or something
[02:45] <tehquickness> sweet
[02:45] <vitalstatistix> mjunx, I see, thanks
[02:45] <Slart> bigcx2: mm.. I was afraid of that... thanks for the help
[02:45] <butterfly_> hi, anyone know the syntal for ip to change my eht0 to use ipv4 (or the -4 option in other words)
[02:45] <omegacenti> Toma-: 800x600 is not a "built-in" mode.
[02:45] <techie_> ok, I tried all my sound connections and I am able to play DVD etc but my sound recorder is not working only high ptich noises... any helpers?
[02:46] <arrenlex> A few multimedia keys on my laptop's keyboard do not work (xev doesn't report anything when they are pressed). What can I do?
[02:46] <bigcx2> def. file a bug in launchpad though
[02:46] <Toma-> omegacenti: have you enabled that size in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:46] <mjunx> butterfly_, you know that you can use ipv4 and ipv6 concurrently, right?
[02:46] <omegacenti> Toma-: I only have 2 "built-in) modes according to Xorg log. 1024x768 and 1280x768.
[02:46] <butterfly_> mjunx: yes.. but I am getting eth0: no ipv6 router found
[02:46] <omegacenti> Toma-: In every single possible way, yes.
[02:46] <SilentDis> arrenlex, I JUST SAW something for that come across the gnomefiles.org blog.  give me a moment to poke around in liferea :)
[02:46] <mjunx> butterfly_, what program is giving that error? ip?
[02:46] <Ktron> Hey, I've got a fairly major problem with my ubuntu install that I've still yet to find anyone to help with-- whenever I logout/shutdown/restart etc from Xorg my computer seems to freeze-- any suggestions?
[02:46] <techie_> Any sound experts in here?
[02:46] <techie_> Thanks.
[02:47] <ubs> hello there
[02:47] <butterfly_> mjunx: /etc/init.d/networking restart ... dhclient .. ifup eth0 .. u name it
[02:47] <bigcx2> techie_: whats your problem
[02:47] <Toma-> techie_: easier to ask then see if you get a good reply
[02:47] <omegacenti> Toma-: I've messed with xorg.conf so much I think I am starting to understand the original programmers thoughts on the subject of life. :p
[02:47] <techie_> unable to record voice on sound recorder
[02:47] <Toma-> omegacenti: hehe. :P
unable to play voice recorder
[02:47] <mjunx> butterfly_, check your interfaces file and make sure it still has an inet entry for eth0
only get high sound beeps
[02:47] <ubs> will someone help me to install et on dell d600 edgy?
[02:47] <SilentDis> arrenlex, i found it, it's called iTouch-Control.  http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1798
[02:47] <omegacenti> Yep, thats quotable.
[02:48] <tehquickness> I got find -iname '*.mp3' -execdir mv {} wherever/ +
[02:48] <tehquickness> oops
[02:48] <techie_> <Toma problems with sound recorder ... no voice only beeps when recording
[02:48] <butterfly_> mjunx: yup .. it does .. it says
[02:48] <omegacenti> !cedega
[02:48] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:48] <tehquickness> I got this problem "find: missing argument to `-execdir'"
[02:48] <lovloss> i saw a magazine at a local bookstore, called "games for windows"
[02:49] <mjunx> hmm, maybe I don't remember the syntax correctly
[02:49] <Toma-> techie_: sounds like youre specifying the wrong recording device
[02:49] <lovloss> i was so pissed
[02:49] <omegacenti> If either of the programs yall have stated change my resolutions, I will be hard pressed not to beat my head against a wall.
[02:49] <arrenlex> SilentDis: That program looks like it's for binding those keys to control a media player. I can handle binding; my problem is that they are not detected by xev.
[02:49] <ArchAngelNix> I was wondering if someone in here knows how to enable a GUI login.
[02:49] <refi> Does anyone know of a place I can buy a (somewhat) reliable modest ubuntu-ready computer for ~$75-100?
[02:49] <techie_> applications > sound video > sound recorder
[02:49] <tehquickness> What areguement goes with -execdir in find?
[02:49] <butterfly_> mjunx: iface etho inet dhcp
[02:49] <preaction> refi: eBay
[02:49] <SilentDis> arrenlex, ahhh, sorry.
[02:49] <mjunx> tehquickness, the program you want to execute
[02:50] <tehquickness> ok
[02:50] <godsyn> HELP! I just sudo chown -R -c godsyn:www-data /*
[02:50] <mjunx> {} should be replaced with the filename, and + means "end of command"
[02:50] <tbuss> mjunx: thanks for the info
[02:50] <omegacenti> !cvs
[02:50] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:50] <tehquickness> ok
[02:50] <godsyn> forgot my . in ./*
[02:50] <digi> i have a problem with loging in to ubuntu. it doesnt say the password is wrong it just goes black for a second then it gives me the login screen again. any ideas?
[02:50] <allhope> hi, my thinkpad z61m has an integrated webcam that apparently isn't supported in any open source drivers yet. however, the company has apparently made a module for fedora core 4, which obviously doesn't work now in ubuntu
[02:50] <godsyn> time to reformat?
[02:50] <foutrelis> godsyn: oh :(
[02:50] <mjunx> godsyn, fix permissions </macos>
[02:50] <allhope> is there any way that I can get it to load? :P or is it hopeless
[02:50] <foutrelis> godsyn, I believe so. :(
[02:50] <Ashex> digi, have you tweaked your video drivers recently?
[02:50] <Toma-> omegacenti: just wait a sec
[02:50] <refi> preaction: but I don't know who to trust on there... do you have a more specific suggestion?
[02:50] <digi> nope
[02:51] <godsyn> any other options?
[02:51] <Toma-> omegacenti: what happens if you just run the game without changing resolution?
any suggestions about the sound problem?
[02:51] <mjunx> chown -R root:root / and work your way from there?
[02:51] <preaction> refi: you might want to try your local neighborhood computer parts store, they might have some older hardware or know where to get some. perhaps a classified ad?
[02:51] <godsyn> is there a log of what was changed?
[02:51] <godsyn> normally..
[02:51] <Toma-> techie_: you need to change the recording device i think. Its under System> Preferences >SoundSystem or something like that
[02:51] <godsyn> ssh logs prehaps?
[02:51] <digi> would there be a log for the login screen that would show me errors?
[02:52] <omegacenti> Toma-: Haven't tried. Afraid the universe will abrubtly shift in my part of the neighborhood. O_o
[02:52] <ArchAngelNix> How do you have kdm as your default instead of gdm?
[02:52] <foutrelis> godsyn: mjunx's suggestion might do the trick I guess
[02:52] <Toma-> omegacenti: hehe. give it a shot ;)
[02:52] <omegacenti> Toma-: I believe in the all important 7 P's. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
[02:53] <Toma-> omegacenti: i operate on trial and error :D
[02:53] <mjunx> godsyn, except don't do that to /dev, /proc, /sys, and anything else like that
I found them but what do I change them into?
[02:53] <omegacenti> :)
[02:53] <refi> preaction: thanks for the suggestion, but I have the same problem there ... I'm not that great of a hardware person so I won't know if they're cheating me. Can you recommend any specific place that you have experience with?
[02:53] <Toma-> techie_: not sure. give the "input device" a good fiddle :)
[02:53] <omegacenti> Toma-: Cedega is sounding amazing if what it claims is true.
[02:53] <mjunx> refi, newegg.com
ok I will "tweak" a bit.
[02:53] <omegacenti> Is Cedega trustable?
[02:53] <preaction> refi: by local i mean "Not a chain-store". in my area, Milwaukee PC has always been good to me
[02:54] <mjunx> omegacenti, you should try using wine first to see if it works
[02:54] <Toma-> omegacenti: its great, but its not free :/
[02:54] <Ashex> digi, just /var/log
[02:54] <preaction> omegacenti: as trustable as anyone who uses a loophole in the GPL to make parts of the source closed
[02:54] <mjunx> cedega is trustworthy, but non-free (in both ways)
[02:54] <butterfly_> any ideas?
[02:54] <godsyn> gah..
[02:54] <Toma-> omegacenti: very trustable. just check the game database before getting your hopes up
[02:54] <mjunx> it was a "loophole" in the original license; the author was an ass and closed it back up
[02:54] <godsyn> i hate my damn "." key.
[02:54] <omegacenti> Toma-: Yes sir.
[02:54] <ok_kid> hi, this is ricky here. i am back but forgot the nick of the one i was talking to.....are you still there?
[02:55] <preaction> godsyn: hopefully this will put the fear of god into you. I always hestitate before hitting the Enter key on something major like that :p
[02:55] <ok_kid> ricky is now called ok_kid
[02:55] <Toma-> omegacenti: right here --> http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[02:55] <omegacenti> preaction: A convienience fee?
[02:56] <butterfly_> brb gonna try some ip commands
[02:56] <omegacenti> Wow, Diablo II is officially supported by Cedega. I am in.
[02:56] <ArchAngelNix> I installed KDE on a fresh install of Ubuntu and selected KDM as my default login manager and now I am dropped into command line to login and when I startx I get Gnome. Can anyone help me get back to a gui login, and set KDE as my default window manger?
[02:56] <ok_kid> using Ubuntu, and looking for a way to change the default boot OS, when it starts.
[02:56] <Joboo> Noob Question - once a file is installed with package installer - do you have to do anything else to run it?
[02:56] <preaction> omegacenti: no, someone saw an opportunity and took it. it's not their fault that Wine's old license allowed it
[02:56] <butterfly_> this is kinda insane that my nic will only try to connect using ipv6
[02:56] <preaction> Joboo: no, you can just run it
[02:56] <Toma-> omegacenti: did you try running diablo 2 in wine yet?
[02:56] <omegacenti> Toma-: Not yet. Should I try that first?
[02:56] <Toma-> omegacenti: yes.
[02:56] <slvmchn> omega: definitely
[02:57] <slvmchn> according to winehq diablo 2 is one of the programs that runs best in wine
[02:57] <preaction> omegacenti: Wine has a compatibility list as well, if you run into problems, perhaps help them debug?
[02:57] <ArchAngelNix> ok_kid, what bootloader are you using?
[02:57] <slvmchn> cedega you have to pay for
[02:57] <Joboo> i am looking for someone with experience with Kiba Dock - any bites?
[02:57] <martalli> ok_kid You need to change the default in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[02:57] <omegacenti> Toma-: I am just afraid in the fact that my computer will NOT switch to 640x480 or 800x600... and this sucks major *&^%
[02:57] <Toma-> omegacenti: only one way to find out :)
[02:57] <ok_kid> how, i am pretty unfamiliar with ubuntu....
[02:57] <mjunx> oh my god it's too active in here
[02:57] <omegacenti> Toma-: I am afraid of failure :)
[02:57] <ok_kid> can you give pretty specific instructions?
[02:57] <Flannel> ArchAngelNix: what error do you get when running "kdm" from your console?
[02:57] <martalli> look at the grub menu and see which line you want...the first is '0', so if you want the fifth os, change 'default 0' to default 4
[02:58] <Ktron> Anyone with any suggestions about what's wrong with a ubuntu install that crashes every time to 'shutdown' Xorg?
[02:58] <preaction> Ktron: "crashes"?
[02:58] <Joboo> What channel would I be able to find some help with Kiba Dock in?
[02:58] <mjunx> Ktron, drivers?
[02:58] <omegacenti> preaction: Maybe once I learn how to debug.
[02:58] <digi> the gdm log says error opening security policy file
[02:58] <Slart> Joboo: Ubuntu-effects perhaps.. with a big perhaps
[02:58] <Joboo> thanks Slart
[02:58] <Toma-> Joboo: just hit Alt-F2 and type in kibadock
[02:58] <preaction> omegacenti: usually running Wine in a terminal spits out a LOT of debug information, otherwise there are instructions on the site
[02:58] <slvmchn> can anyone tell me why when i shutdown my computer it doesn't shut down, it just sits at the screen with the bar under "Ubuntu" until i manually turn it off?
[02:59] <hk-ref> anyone know how i can make the world of warcraft fonts in wine look bigger and readable?
[02:59] <omegacenti> preaction: I love friendly linux people. Is this wrong?
[02:59] <preaction> slvmchn: how long did you wait? maybe your APM is bad
[02:59] <ok_kid> Martalli: is that a file inside Ubuntu, or do I do that when it is asking me to select the OS i want to boot?
[02:59] <tehquickness> darn I am close.
[02:59] <slvmchn> it doesn't matte,r it just sits there
[02:59] <Flannel> slvmchn: Does "sudo shutdown -hP now" work?
[02:59] <tehquickness> I have got it down to this
[02:59] <Joboo> Toma - I did that and it errors - I have downloaded the .deb - but no dice.
[02:59] <preaction> omegacenti: no, some more or less friendly than others
[02:59] <Ktron> preaction: screens go black, monitors lose signal
[02:59] <d00d_> I need some help get a exreal USB Drive working
[02:59] <Toma-> Joboo: youve installed the deb right?
[02:59] <tehquickness> find . -name "*.mp3" -exec cp /home/tehquickness/Desktop/music/{} +
[02:59] <d00d_> extreal^
[02:59] <omegacenti> preaction: I ran into a few the other day. XD
[02:59] <slvmchn> Flannel: if that does work, is there somewhere i can put that in a settings file so shutting down from the menu does it?
[02:59] <Joboo> yup
[02:59] <Flannel> hk-ref: You might ask in #winehq
[02:59] <Joboo> Toma - Yes - I have.
[03:00] <tehquickness> but the error I am getting this: cp: target `./My Yahoo! Music/Nelly Furtado/Loose/04-0 - Nelly Furtado - Promiscuous.mp3' is not a directory
[03:00] <Ktron> mjunx: I get X up and running fine with the fgrlx drivers, why would it crash when I _stop_ using them?
[03:00] <ArchAngelNix> Flannel, I don't get an error. Just a black screen
[03:00] <martalli> ok_kid - You will see that it is the file that defines the grub menu screen.  It is in ubuntu, under /boot/grub
[03:00] <tehquickness> How can i make it think it is not a directory?
[03:00] <omegacenti> The thing that I am happy about most, even though someone is going to get me for saying this, is that I have not once seen RTFM in this chatroom. Not once. And I have th elogs to prove it. :)
[03:00] <edifice_melody> Anyone know if there are m-audio device drivers for external midi keyboards?
[03:00] <Flannel> ArchAngelNix: check your logs maybe
[03:00] <mjunx> Ktron, dunno, sorry
[03:00] <slvmchn> what's RTFM?
[03:00] <foutrelis> tehquickness: Furtado rules :)
[03:00] <edifice_melody> that support ubuntu?
[03:00] <tehquickness> heck yeah
[03:00] <Slart> omegacenti: oh.. every now and then we do that
[03:00] <ok_kid> and then what do i do, once i am in there, to that file....?
[03:00] <slvmchn> edifice: yea hdefinitely
[03:00] <martalli> mmmmm...furtado
[03:00] <edifice_melody> I must be searching wrong then
[03:00] <preaction> slvmchn: read the Fine manual
[03:00] <Toma-> omegacenti: thats because you get kicked for saying it :D
[03:00] <slvmchn> edifice_melody: m-audio has really really good midi support
[03:01] <refi> Anyone have experience with running ubuntu on a dell (optiplex)? I'm specifically looking at this: http://www.dellauction.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=80343538&prmenbr=31308269&aunbr=80690248
[03:01] <Slart> omegacenti: but we cushion it with nice language =)
[03:01] <slvmchn> i mean linux support
[03:01] <tehquickness> hot yes but not solving m problem.
[03:01] <Ktron> mjunx: Its such a deal breaker... ubuntu seems to be the least compatible distribution I've found yet lol
[03:01] <tehquickness> hmmm I am soooo close!
[03:01] <martalli> There is a line that says "default 0"
[03:01] <preaction> omegacenti: we tend to actually point you to the correct manual. a lot of times i'll say "man <cmd>"
[03:01] <omegacenti> Slart: But I honestly do try and read the manual, but if it gets confusing, I attempt howto's in ubuntu, and when that doesn't work, I move in here. :)
[03:01] <ArchAngelNix> Where are my X logs?
[03:01] <slvmchn> the wine manual is lacking anyways
[03:01] <Flannel> ArchAngelNix: /var/log
[03:01] <preaction> ArchAngelNix: usually /var/log/Xorg probably
[03:01] <refi> It comes with windows so I'm not so sure
[03:01] <mjunx> ArchAngelNix, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:02] <edifice_melody> Good! I'd like to have this controller working for ubuntu studio to try it out
[03:02] <martalli> Count down the choices until you see the OS you want.  subtract 1 and that will be the setting for default.  Lines and other diviersin the menu count, too
[03:02] <tehquickness> How do I make this (     find . -name "*.mp3" -exec cp /home/tehquickness/Desktop/music/{} +    ) copy the file instead of telling me it is not a directory?
[03:02] <edifice_melody> time to search, thanks guys
[03:02] <ok_kid> Martalli: i am going to see if i can find it with the file browser....would that be right?
[03:02] <omegacenti> some manuals are WAY over the head of someone who just started linux. I wish I could improve upon that. It feels like in the man pages, you need another man page for every other word.
[03:02] <copper> hexion around?
[03:02] <martalli> Just to be sure, always make  a copy of a file like that, and have a livecd handy before screwing up something like your grub.lst file lol
[03:02] <Slart> omegacenti: hehe..yes.. the manuals are not always easy to understand
[03:02] <preaction> omegacenti: because the man pages assume basic *nix knowledge, unfortunately.
[03:03] <Toma-> Joboo: hit Alt-F2 then run 'kiba-dock'
[03:03] <Ktron> Anyone with any suggestions on how to get a ubuntu system to not lose video every time I try to logout/reboot/shutdown out of Xorg?
[03:03] <preaction> omegacenti: they have to assume some things, otherwise they'd all be 50 pages long. read the "ls" manpage, for something as simple as listing a directory contents...
[03:03] <refi> or maybe this one http://www.dellauction.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=80343478&prmenbr=31308269&aunbr=80690188
[03:03] <fraroco> hello
[03:03] <Toma-> omegacenti: so does diablo 2 run or not?
[03:03] <Flannel> martalli, ok_kid, you can edit boot options right in GRUB (hit e), so there's no need for a liveCD
[03:03] <martalli> Better to go with command line probablyt, because you will need to edit it with superuser abilties...something like cd /boot/grub && cp grub.lst grub.lst.old && sudo gedit grub.lst
[03:03] <kelsin> Toma-: diablo2 runs fine for me, just b.net has display issues
[03:04] <martalli> Flannel - that sounds even better
[03:04] <preaction> Ktron: did you check logs for error messages?
[03:04] <Flannel> martalli, ok_kid, Ubuntu uses menu.lst, not grub.conf
[03:04] <omegacenti> kelsin: Battle net has issues?
[03:04] <kelsin> Toma-: (this is in the wine packages from the respotiroty listed on winehq)
[03:04] <CientificoLoco> hello everybody I want to show  what I playing now in my mercury msn but it say that needs a command shell for rhytmbox, do you have idea?
[03:04] <kelsin> omegacenti: the interface to b.net has issues in starcraft and diablo I, sorry not dII as far as I know
[03:04] <martalli> oops - i meant to type menu.lst not grub...sorry
[03:04] <omegacenti> kelsin: What is the difference between b.net and battle net? any? I heard one is the open ghame.
[03:04] <kelsin> omegacenti: I could have said that wrong :)
[03:04] <Toma-> kelsin: super. just trying to get omegacenti to run the darn program
[03:04] <kelsin> omegacenti: when I said b.net I mean the official battle net
[03:04] <kelsin> Toma-: ahhh sorry, I jumped in :)
[03:04] <omegacenti> Toma-: HAHAHA Okay okay. I will attempt it.
[03:05] <martalli> i even wrote menu.lst up above.  I guess I need some coffee lol
[03:05] <Toma-> :P
[03:05] <slvmchn> omegacenti: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=49
[03:05] <Super_pollos> hello, Im having some problems installing Ubuntu on my old P3 ~450 its getting to teh clock setup during teh installation then gnome freezes and I have to restart the computer, however since the install did not complete, it doesnt work, it returns the code "15" on grub loading, any ideas on how I could fix this? im a bit of a linux newbie.
[03:05] <dimeotane> this help file im reading says to make a backup copy of the config file.. whats the terminal command  mv or cp ?
[03:05] <Joboo> Where can I get codecs for various non open source video formats?  mpeg. avi, quicktime, etc?
[03:05] <CientificoLoco> do you have idea?
[03:05] <Ktron> preaction: Where do you find logs for Xorg other than startup?
[03:05] <Slart> !codecs
[03:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <slvmchn> Joboo: google 'mplayer', on their page they have a codecs package that should get all those working
[03:05] <preaction> Ktron: /var/log/Xorg <- it should start with that
[03:05] <Slart> !win32codecs
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <Joboo> thanks Slart!
[03:06] <slvmchn> Joboo: trust me, this is the easiest way to do it, otherwise you have to search for each codec individually and it's a pain
[03:06] <Toma-> Slart: its w32codecs
[03:06] <Slart> !w32codecs
[03:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:06] <Slart> ahh =)
[03:06] <omegacenti> Toma-: I urge you to look at the link slvmchn supplied and look at that howto.. it will be a while
[03:06] <Joboo> even better thanks Slvmchn
[03:06] <dimeotane> it says " backup your existing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"  what command
[03:06] <slvmchn> no problem
[03:06] <slvmchn> wait who's trying to play diablo, omega or toma?
[03:06] <slvmchn> lol
[03:06] <Toma-> omegacenti: its trying to play it
[03:06] <omegacenti> Toma-: minimum requirements: Support for 640x480 and 800x600 video modes.
[03:06] <Ktron> preaction: that just seems to contain start up info and that's it
[03:06] <bruenig> dimeotane, sudo cp /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base /etc/modrobe.d/alsa-base.old
[03:07] <eshaase> my system lags when i switch between desktops that have maximized windows open, can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:07] <Toma-> but hes fearful of running it if it crashes for some kooky reason
[03:07] <dimeotane> thks bruenig I wasn't sure if it was cp or mv
[03:07] <tehquickness> darn it I keep getting soo close!
[03:07] <Toma-> omegacenti: ...thats minimum.... you have better. youll be fine
[03:07] <preaction> Ktron: how did you install fglrx?
[03:07] <tehquickness> I lose at this
[03:08] <Super_pollos> hello, Im having some problems installing Ubuntu on my old P3 ~450 its getting to teh clock setup during teh installation then gnome freezes and I have to restart the computer, however since the install did not complete, it doesnt work, it returns the code "15" on grub loading up, any ideas on how I could fix this?
[03:08] <omegacenti> Toma-: Well then, on with the show!
[03:08] <mjunx> Super_pollos, try running memtest86+
[03:08] <omegacenti> Toma-: The part about the symlink in that Howto doesn't necessarily make sense to me.
[03:08] <arrenlex> A few multimedia keys on my laptop's keyboard do not work (xev doesn't report anything when they are pressed). What can I do?
[03:08] <dimeotane> bruenig: except I'll want a modprobe.d    (im not into those modrobe things ;))
[03:08] <K3nto> !ipod
[03:08] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:09] <omegacenti> rockbox = <3
[03:09] <refi> is there at least some ubuntu compatibility list i can check ?
[03:09] <ok_kid> Martalli: i found the file, and i am in editing mode for text...but exactly what to change.....i cant understand the instructions?
[03:09] <Toma-> omegacenti: that just makes sure wine can see your CD. easily fixable if the game doesnt see your CD
[03:09] <Ktron> preaction: followed http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide , not the manual version, and tweaked the config some... here, give me a second I'll paste bin my xorg.conf
[03:09] <omegacenti> Toma-: But I should do that step either way, correct?
[03:09] <K3nto> omegacenti: i installed rockbox just now :D
[03:09] <ok_kid> i am in the file menu.lst
[03:09] <mjunx> who's trying to play games in wine?
[03:09] <bruenig> oh typo
[03:09] <mjunx> check http://appdb.winehq.org/ (or was it .com?)
[03:09] <ok_kid> it says that it is read only
[03:10] <martalli> It is a line at the very top of the file - it is the first line not to have a # in front of it
[03:10] <kuma> hi, i'm using Kubuntu and i want to know if i have SDL installed, how can i tell?
[03:10] <Ktron> preaction: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9360/
[03:10] <martalli> It says "default            0"
[03:10] <omegacenti> K3nto: Isn't it lovely?
[03:10] <mjunx> !sdl
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <mjunx> hmm
[03:10] <Toma-> omegacenti: i have a sneeking suspicion that its already setup for us ubuntu users
[03:10] <omegacenti> K3nto: FLAC support!
[03:10] <preaction> Ktron: you need xinerama?
[03:10] <ok_kid> and i need to put what? in there?
[03:10] <K3nto> omegacenti: yep. i just need a lil help with using it with amarok
[03:10] <mjunx> kuma, do "apropos sdl" and see if you get a load of manpages
[03:10] <omegacenti> K3nto: No idea there friend.
[03:10] <K3nto> omegacenti: what app do you use yours with?
[03:10] <Ktron> preaction: I have dual monitors not in clone mode, that means xinerama, right?
[03:10] <omegacenti> Toma-: I don't know
[03:11] <preaction> Ktron: does it work without it?
[03:11] <Toma-> omegacenti: just run it :/
[03:11] <omegacenti> K3nto: I was a windows user until 1 week afo, dont ask me lol
[03:11] <dimeotane> man... now it tells me to "reload my modules"  any ideas?
[03:11] <ok_kid> it says default 0, and i need to change it to what.....?
[03:11] <K3nto> omegacenti: hey! me too
[03:11] <kuma> mjunx$ apropos sdl yuvplay (1)          - Display YUV4MPEG2 streams (using SDL)
[03:11] <Samhain13> hello, good morning.
[03:11] <techie_> <Toma I have tweaked the sound recorder to no avail. Is there any other sound recording recommended for Ubuntu?
[03:11] <mjunx> kuma, what do you need sdl for anyhow?
[03:11] <omegacenti> Toma-: I don't have a drive letter for my cdrom! bah, It is not set up for us ubuntu's.
[03:12] <martalli> ok_kid The "0" in "default           0" means to use the first choice in the list.  Look down further in the list and you will see the different kernels and OS's.  0 is for the first, 1 for the second, and so on.  Change "default       0" to "default    3" or wehatever you want
[03:12] <Toma-> techie_: check you levels and setting in 'alsamixer' ...you need to run it from a Terminal
[03:12] <dimeotane> good morning?!  wow.. that's a trip... Samhain13 you must be on the opposite side of the world  ... cool
[03:12] <techie_> <Toma I did before I will check again
[03:12] <Samhain13> I probably am, dimeotane. =)
[03:12] <Slart> omegacenti: playing with wine? check winecfg.. there you can set up a cdrom.. with a letter and all
[03:12] <mjunx> kuma, you can install libsdl1.2debian-all
[03:12] <kuma> mjunx: I'm trying to compile a game, Wesnoth, when I do the configure make install i get a sdl error
[03:12] <Ktron> preaction: I'll try it without Xinerama
[03:12] <mjunx> oh, okay
[03:12] <omegacenti> K3nto: Lets just hope we regain all of our functionality as we did with windows :)
[03:12] <ok_kid> oh, i see, thanks, i appreciate your patience with newby's....
[03:12] <Toma-> techie_: other than that, im at a loss. sorry
[03:12] <martalli> ok_kid  Look down to the line ## ## End default options ## ##
[03:12] <mjunx> kuma, install libsdl1.2-dev
[03:12] <Samhain13> is there any one here who can help me with configuring my infrared adapter?
[03:13] <dimeotane> Samhain13: I'm still psychologically catching up to this high tech I've been using for 20 years... ;)
[03:13] <ok_kid> i will try that and come back
[03:13] <omegacenti> Slart: Doing that as of right now.
[03:13] <Xenguy> kuma: I thought wesnoth was already packaged for ubuntu - am I wrong?
[03:13] <Ktron> preaction: be back
[03:13] <K3nto> omegacenti: i have most of mine actually :-D
[03:13] <martalli> ok_kid The little paragraphs that start after that are separate listings in the grub menu you see on boot-up
[03:13] <K3nto> !mount
[03:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:13] <omegacenti> Okay, stop the music, does anyone have a solution for turning off tapping in Ubuntu!?!
[03:13] <dimeotane> anyone know the command to "reload the modules"
[03:13] <brockoli> Can anyone help me with my vmware player install on edgy, It's almost perfect, but no network. :(
[03:13] <Slart> omegacenti: be sure to set type to cd-rom.. not automatic.. it works better with some copy protection thingies that way
[03:13] <CientificoLoco> what command shel do I have to write in mercury for to show I am playing with rhythmbox?
[03:13] <ok_kid> because i suppose that after i change the default, then i will have to reboot to see if it worked OK.
[03:13] <kuma> Xenguy: yeah, i downloaded the stable version, but i didn't find where to run it, just a make file
[03:13] <omegacenti> it keeps putting me right in the middle of my own sentences with my palm! grr!
[03:13] <kuma> mjunx: how do i do that?
[03:13] <slvmchn> kuma: i think it's in synaptic
[03:13] <Toma-> omegacenti: ...tapping?
[03:14] <ok_kid> yes, i have already found the OS that i want to be the new default
[03:14] <slvmchn> wesnoth should be
[03:14] <martalli> ok_kid - as far as I know thats the only way to test grub
[03:14] <Slart> wesnoth is in the repos
[03:14] <Xenguy> kuma: then solve that problem, you don't need to compile from source surely
[03:14] <crdlb> omegacenti, you can load the synaptics module in your xorg.conf and configure it
[03:14] <slvmchn> although learning to compile software is good to know
[03:14] <slvmchn> because a lot of stuff out there isn't in the repos
[03:14] <martalli> ok_kid - I hope you are listing ubuntu as the new default (j/k  =)
[03:14] <Xenguy> slvmchn: when necessary :-)
[03:14] <slvmchn> and who knows, maybe someday you'll compile your own kernel! awwww :-D
[03:14] <Toma-> omegacenti: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[03:14] <bruenig> slvmchn, wouldn't say a lot
[03:15] <Xenguy> slvmchn: and then you turn to 'checkinstall'
[03:15] <kuma> Xenguy: brb
[03:15] <omegacenti> Toma, what if I don't what to diable touchpad, just tapping...
[03:15] <dimeotane> I've reconfigured my alsa ... how do I reload modules without a reboot?
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> anyone know why for some reason grub won't respond to keyboard commands at boot?
[03:16] <Toma-> what is tapping?
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> all of a suddent i can't pick other boot options
[03:16] <martalli> shuftypoiwers - plug n your keyboard?
[03:16] <mjunx> kuma, it's in synaptic
[03:16] <omegacenti> Toma-: Very momentarily touch your touchpad and it acts like a click.
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> martalli, funny
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> but no
[03:16] <lufis> ShiftyPowers: have you tried rebooting again? my bios sometimes messes up and doesn't detect the keyboard properly
[03:16] <martalli> i kill myself
[03:16] <Toma-> omegacenti: ahh.
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> yeah i tried a couple of times
[03:16] <lufis> ah, hm
[03:16] <K3nto> what exactly is a mount point?
[03:16] <ShiftyPowers> i can press F2 to enter the setup but grub won't respond
[03:16] <lufis> K3nto: where the device is mounted at
[03:16] <Toma-> omegacenti: dont have a laptop :< so ive no idea.
[03:17] <omegacenti> Toma-: Unfortunately, just brushing the touchpad with your pam as you go for the spacebar causes a tap as well, and that usually mean you will start typing in the middle of your sentenc.e
[03:17] <martalli> Is your timeout too fast?  My default menu.lst has a line "timeout 10"
[03:17] <lufis> K3nto: as opposed to the actual device... mount point can be anywhere you wish
[03:17] <martalli> Maybe your is set to 1 or 0?
[03:17] <ok_kid> i tried to change it, but the file is read only, and it refused to save the change.....any ideas?
[03:17] <omegacenti> Toma-: palm*
[03:17] <Slart> K3nto: basically just a folder where the contents of the harddrive/cd, or whatever. show up
[03:17] <Toma-> omegacenti: ok... have you run diablo yet?
[03:17] <martalli> ok_kid:  You need to edit with sudo.  Instead of "gedit menu.lst", type "sudo gedit menu.lst"
[03:17] <omegacenti> Slart: I do not know how to set it from automatic to CDrom
[03:18] <martalli> It will ask you for your password for se3cirty reasons
[03:18] <omegacenti> Slart: any suggestions?
[03:18] <Slart> omegacenti: isn't there a drop down box?
[03:18] <lufis> ok_kid: except use gksudo when using gui
[03:18] <jepeltw> hello all, my laptop's backlight is madly flickering, whether on battery or AC power. I have an IBM ThinkPad G40 with Intel 8552GM graphics card, and am using X.org with the i810 driver
[03:18] <jepeltw> it does this in console mode as well as X
[03:18] <omegacenti> Slart: Maybe I didn't look hard enough, scanning the page.
[03:18] <ok_kid> i have no idea what you are talking about....sorry
[03:18] <CientificoLoco> what command shel do I have to write in mercury for to show I am playing with rhythmbox?
[03:18] <ok_kid> i am the administrator
[03:18] <martalli> shiftypowers - are you using the same computer right now (ie, is the keyboard working in the os?)
[03:18] <ok_kid> does that matter?
[03:18] <Slart> omegacenti: in the drives section.. you have to click the advanced button
[03:19] <ok_kid> i am the only one listed
[03:19] <bruenig> !repeat | CientificoLoco
[03:19] <ubotu> CientificoLoco: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:19] <omegacenti> Slart: Oh my, lol. Thanks you Slart.
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> martalli, yes
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> it boots fine into ubuntu
[03:19] <K3nto> Slart: ok great thanks
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> and i'm using the keyboard
[03:19] <martalli> ok_kid - In ubuntu, the first user is the administrator, but you need to give your password anyway before excersing admin priviledges
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> so weird
[03:19] <Slart> omegacenti: no problem
[03:19] <Joboo> Need Help - anytime I try and do anything in terminal - I am getting this error:  "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:19] <Joboo> " - then when I try and run "dkpg --configure -a"  I get am error like this:  "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege:.. I am system admin so no idea what that means.
[03:19] <bruenig> Joboo, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:19] <ok_kid> it did not ask me for a password
[03:20] <martalli> shiftypowers - you have me - why not check and see what the timeout line on your /boot/grub/menu.lst file says?
[03:20] <Joboo> bah I r smrt - lol - thanks bruenig
[03:20] <omegacenti> Toma-: Do you think I should create that symlink?
[03:20] <martalli> !sudo
[03:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:20] <digi> where is the SecurityPolicy located in ubuntu?
[03:20] <Toma-> omegacenti: yes.
[03:20] <ok_kid> it says 10 seconds
[03:20] <ShiftyPowers> martalli, so weird, the timeout line is 8 seconds too and it sits there timing out
[03:20] <ShiftyPowers> martalli, so odd
[03:20] <Toma-> !wiki SecurityPolicy
[03:20] <Toma-> :( sif disable wiki
[03:21] <tehquickness> I give up
[03:21] <tehquickness> I can not make this work
[03:21] <omegacenti> Toma-: Okay let me get onto that.
[03:21] <digi> !wiki SecurityPolicy?
[03:21] <ok_kid> yes, i have used it before.....but i just got ubuntu installed a few days ago, and dont know all the commands
[03:21] <martalli> im stuck ont he keyboard...do you have another to try?  Are you using some sort f  a legacy usb keyboard?
[03:21] <bruenig> !wiki
[03:21] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:21] <ok_kid> but i have used sudo.....
[03:21] <digi> !wiki SecurityPolicy
[03:21] <omegacenti> What is a device node symlink?
[03:21] <digi> oh
[03:21] <erisco> does anyone know how to connect to a server through front page extensions?
[03:22] <martalli> ok_kid - did you start the editor from the command line or from the gui?
[03:22] <Slart> omegacenti: hmm.. if you're asking that.. perhaps you're meddling with stuff you shouldn't be meddling with? =)
[03:22] <omegacenti> Slart: The setup for diabloII under winde says I need to do this, so in order to go on, I need to know.
[03:22] <martalli> ok_kid I am not entirely sure how to start the editor as root from the gui...I am lazy and always use the cli lol
[03:22] <omegacenti> Slart: wine*
[03:23] <kelsin> omegacenti: I never had to :-( why do you have to do this?
[03:23] <Toma-> omegacenti: if your cdrom is mounted from /dev/hdc ..then thats it. run 'cat /etc/fstab' to see whats what
[03:23] <omegacenti> kelsin: Hell if I know, but thats what it says.
[03:23] <kelsin> omegacenti: link the guide?
[03:23] <Xenguy> martalli: cli is great - if gui, then gksudo ____
[03:23] <blaa> !install.exe
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install.exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <martalli> ok_kid - ubuntu is a sudo distro.  su has only limited uses.
[03:23] <Toma-> omegacenti: you mean you STILL havent run diablo2?
[03:23] <irunwithscissors> ok_kid, open up a terminal, type 'sudo gedit'  and then drag the file you're trying to edit onto the terminal window....then hit enter
[03:23] <Slart> omegacenti: it asks "oh mortal, answer me this before ye shall game.. What is a device node symlink?" ? :D
[03:23] <omegacenti> kelsin: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=49
[03:23] <bruenig> gksudo gedit
[03:23] <omegacenti> Slart: HAHAHA
[03:23] <martalli> xenguy - or just gksu, but i only know how to get that started fromt he cli
[03:24] <Xenguy> martalli: gksudo is preferred AFAICT
[03:24] <martalli> xenguy - you are probably right
[03:24] <omegacenti> Toma-: Look at that damned guide and tell me I should be running diablo II in 5 minutes as a new to linux user!
[03:24] <mjunx> gksu or kdesu or sux or anything that forwards X credentials
[03:24] <Xenguy> martalli: I'm only repeating what I read from a factoid
[03:24] <Toma-> omegacenti: forget the guide. have you tried running it?
[03:24] <omegacenti> Toma-: I don't even know where to start.
[03:24] <blaa> how to install ubuntu on windows
[03:24] <nate_> hey guys.. I'm really strugeling getting mp3s to play here
[03:25] <omegacenti> Toma-: I don't even know how to install it.
[03:25] <bruenig> !quicktime | nate_
[03:25] <nate_> anyone got a quck how to?
[03:25] <ubotu> nate_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:25] <Toma-> right.
[03:25] <kelsin> omegacenti: it tells you have to create it right there the ln line
[03:25] <martalli> I have one use of su in regular ubuntu.  Running as another (seonc, thuird) user without sudo right, you can type "su adminaccount" and then you are lgged in as the admin.  still need to type "sudo ..." to start up apt-getand the like
[03:25] <Xenguy> blaa: that's a dual boot situation -- google for a 'tutorial' or 'howto'
[03:25] <martalli> cenguy - actually i didn't remember there was a gksudo - i am really a newbie for the most part
[03:25] <bruenig> Xenguy, he is talking about that windows exe installer that does it all in windows, and then  you can just reboot into it
[03:25] <Toma-> omegacenti: browse your way to the CDROM directory in gnome. double click the install .exe and it should open with wine. install as normal.
[03:25] <mjunx> hmm, to get root enabled, just run "sudo passwd" and change its password
[03:26] <ok_kid> well, i am looking at the gedit, and it looks like an old type of editor where you had to tell it the line number and the position to go to and then to replace a character or something.
[03:26] <ohir> ok_kid: sudo -i. Mind that root should know what s/he is doing.
[03:26] <Xenguy> bruenig: heh, OK, forget my advice then
[03:26] <mjunx> if you want a su shell so badly, just use "sudo -s"
[03:26] <omegacenti> Toma-: Okay I will try that, lemme get the disk
[03:27] <ok_kid> are you saying that i should dumpt Ubuntu, because i am trying out the new OS, and trying to learn....
[03:27] <ok_kid> this root does not know....i confess, that is why i am here!
[03:27] <mjunx> no, he's saying don't f around in root without knowing what it is you're doing
[03:27] <martalli> ok_kid - no, gedit may show line numbers, but it is really a quite straightforward gui text editoir.  drag the file from the gui onto gedit and the file will appear.  Alternatively, you could go to the fdirectory in the cli with "cd /boot/grub" and then type "sudo gedit menu.lst"
[03:27] <dabaR> ok_kid: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/08/how-to-setup-text-editor-gedit-plugins/ http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/07/how-to-make-the-best-of-ubuntu-text-editor-gedit/
[03:27] <bruenig> ok_kid, explain what you are doing
[03:28] <mjunx> also, I recommend using gvim or emacs if you want a good editor
[03:28] <ok_kid> like a drag and drop
[03:28] <nate_> ok works thx
[03:28] <martalli> bruenig - he is trying to edit the grub menu.lst to define another os as default on the grub menu
[03:28] <ohir> ok_kid: so get used to sudo command. It gives you that badly needed second of thinking before 'Enter'
[03:28] <nate_> now is there a "winamp" like mp3 player?
[03:28] <mjunx> or vim or emacs if you want a command-line one
[03:28] <lufis> nate_: xmms
[03:28] <mjunx> nate_, xmms
[03:28] <lufis> nate_: beep media player, too
[03:28] <xexos> where can i get some drivers for my video card? (yes im a n00b)
[03:28] <Toma-> nate_: winamp classic --> audacious
[03:28] <martalli> maybe so his parents wil tolerate havng linux ont heir computer (that's why i learned lol)] 
[03:28] <dabaR> !ati | xexos
[03:28] <ubotu> xexos: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <Slart> nate_: audacious is also very winamp like
[03:28] <Toma-> xmms is unmaintained, bmp is buggy, and audacious is working.
[03:28] <mjunx> !nvidia | xexos
[03:29] <bruenig> ok_kid, just close everything, all the text editors, and everything, open a fresh terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and do "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:29] <martalli> ohir - not too hard ont he new folks, after all even the debian diehards use su
[03:29] <omegacenti> Toma-: Here goes nothing.
[03:29] <mjunx> xmms unmaintained? really?
[03:29] <martalli> and our mepis brethen too
[03:29] <ohir> ok_kid: you can have root shell with sudo -i, but as I said - root should know....
[03:29] <Toma-> mjunx: yep. all the devs are working on xmm2
[03:29] <Toma-> *xmms2
[03:29] <mjunx> oh, hmm, what's the progress on that?
[03:30] <mjunx> I use Amarok all the time anyhow, so that depends on xine (for me and most people), so I don't really pay attention to xmms anymore
[03:30] <martalli> there are so many music players in linux my mind is spinning
[03:30] <Toma-> mjunx: no idea. :P it also wont load if you have composite enabled, which is enabled by default in edgy
[03:30] <bruenig> !music
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <naknomik> For the first time I just downloaded Ubuntu and installed it on my old ThinkPad T30 laptop. What I am not able to figure out is how to get my wireless working.
[03:30] <digi> I figured out why I couldnt log in, no disk space. My next question is how can I resize a partition?
[03:30] <bruenig> what is that media player factoid
[03:30] <mjunx> composite is enabled by default? I didn't know that
[03:30] <dabaR> !media players
[03:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:30] <crdlb> mjunx, mpd is very similar to what xmms2 will be
[03:30] <bruenig> dang
[03:30] <mjunx> crdlb, mpd is just the daemon, it has like a million interfaces for it
[03:31] <martalli> naknomik - what kind of wireless chip do you have?
[03:31] <digi> !partition
[03:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:31] <ohir> martalli ok :)
[03:31] <crdlb> mjunx, that's exactly what xmms2 will be also
[03:31] <crdlb> mjunx, it will have multiple interfaces
[03:31] <dabaR> digi: I guess gparted on qtparted
[03:31] <nrdb_> hi
[03:31] <mjunx> that sounds good
[03:31] <naknomik> martalli: I don't know, how do I find out?
[03:31] <kelsin> crdlb: yeah seems very odd that they're going that way, seems like it's done so well already
[03:31] <mjunx> I'm hoping for a Qt interface
[03:31] <dabaR> !hi | nrdb_
[03:31] <ubotu> nrdb_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:31] <martalli> ummm
[03:31] <omegacenti> Toma-: Um, there is a problem... it says the C drive ( a fake drive set up by wine) only has 104 megs on it... How do I get around this?
[03:31] <mjunx> Qt, GTK+, anything they can support
[03:32] <martalli> one suggestion is to check the "lspci" command, or to check the linux on laptops website.
[03:32] <ok_kid> i am kind of hoping that it worked,, so i will reboot and maybe come back....if not thanks for all your help and patience.
[03:32] <usr13> when you add new sources, you need to issue command:  apt-??? ______???
[03:32] <Toma-> omegacenti: ...get a bigger harddrive?
[03:32] <martalli> Does a t30 even have a built-in wireless chip?
[03:32] <bruenig> usr13, sudo apt-get update
[03:32] <Toma-> omegacenti: or chose another drive from wine
[03:32] <usr13> bruenig: Tnx
[03:32] <omegacenti> Toma-: But....
[03:32] <bulmer> am having difficulty running freenx server and client because of key..am getting confused which key goes to where and if i have to generate the key.
[03:32] <Slart> omegacenti: go to appdb.winehq.org, search for diablo (there is a little search box) see if they mention it there
[03:32] <naknomik> martalli: I am positive. There is even a 802.11b MAC address written on the back.
[03:33] <bulmer> any help on managing that key for FreeNx?
[03:33] <Xenguy> bulmer: the latest howto's say just accept the default key...
[03:33] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, it will probably grow... its just a folder anyway... it takes up space on your REAL hard drive so it shouldn't actually run out of space...
[03:33] <bulmer> Xenguy i could not get it to work
[03:33] <martalli> lol sounds like proof 802.11b is mostly supported in linux - type "lspci" in the command line and look for a wireless controller listed
[03:33] <Xenguy> bulmer: i.e. you don't have to generate your own, or do anything special with keys
[03:33] <omegacenti> Slart: Oh boy... not as simple as Toma put it..
[03:33] <Toma-> omegacenti: just install to a different directory in the diable installer
[03:33] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, unless your HD really only has 104 mb of space left..
[03:33] <omegacenti> jimmygoon: You sure about this?
[03:33] <martalli> http://www.wach-o-witz.de/linux_zeuch/ibm_t30_install/ubuntu_6.06.1/ubuntu_6.06.1.html
[03:33] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, not at all
[03:34] <Xenguy> bulmer: it can be a hassle, but it does work -- you may need an older version client for example
[03:34] <bulmer> Xenguy what ever tutorial you're referring to, is not detailed enuff, care to assist me?
[03:34] <martalli> a link to setting up a t30 iwth ubuntu dapper
[03:34] <Slart> omegacenti: hehe.. for some people it's very simple.. sometimes you run into strange problems.. it happens
[03:34] <irunwithscissors> does anyone know an easy way to get windows media movies to play in firefox?
[03:34] <omegacenti> jimmygoon: Free space is 20 gigs on drive C
[03:34] <Xenguy> bulmer: no - you absolutely need the tutorial, I had to fight to get it to work, on different occasions...
[03:34] <naknomik> martalli: This is what I find, besides many other entries. 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[03:34] <ohir> omegacenti try df -h
[03:34] <omegacenti> err not drive C sda1
[03:34] <mjunx> !codecs | irunwithscissors
[03:34] <ubotu> irunwithscissors: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <omegacenti> ohir: What is df -h?
[03:34] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, what dri... oh okay ;P
[03:34] <kelsin> omegacenti: yeah, for diablo II, starcraft, war3 and wow I run the install program with wine and it all just worked from there, (using the wine packages from the budget dedicated server listed on winehw.com)
[03:35] <bulmer> Xenguy: okay, so which tutorial are you referring to?
[03:35] <mjunx> omegacenti, human-readable form of df
[03:35] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, I really think you will be okay  ..... "df" standss for disk free
[03:35] <martalli> naknomik - prism usually works, but our website writer says it was flaky for him
[03:35] <ohir> omegacenti it will print you partition sizes
[03:35] <Slart> omegacenti: you're trying to run Diablo I, or Diablo II?
[03:35] <Xenguy> bulmer: the last time it was that that company (nomachine?) had released a new client that rendered everything broken, so I had to retrieve a previous client, and then everything worked fine
[03:35] <omegacenti> AH
[03:35] <dabaR> omegacenti: -h is for human readable output
[03:35] <omegacenti> Slart: D2
[03:35] <Xenguy> bulmer: there is a standard 'ubuntu + freenx' tutorial - can you find it?
[03:36] <Xenguy> bulmer: either wiki or forums (ubu)
[03:36] <nate_> ok
[03:36] <bulmer> Xenguy: well, there are many tutorials i have read  on this and they seem to forget the instructions on which key is which and where to install em
[03:36] <nate_> now how do I make xmms the default player for mp3
[03:36] <rbil> omegacenti: hint .... when someone suggests a Linux command and you're interested in learning more about it, look at its manual page ... example:  man df
[03:36] <dabaR> nate_: right click on an mp3, then go properties, open with
[03:37] <naknomik> Another question, I installed Ubuntu, but I don't like the Gnome interface, I want to try the Kubuntu, how do I get it? I have high speed connection, but do I have to download a new Kubuntu CD and install it?
[03:37] <nate_> it doesnt change it
[03:37] <omegacenti> paste binning output.. I can't tell which one is my linux part....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9363/
[03:37] <dabaR> naknomik: install kubuntu-desktop, with aptitude
[03:37] <mjunx> nanothief, install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <bulmer> naknomik: yes, you need a new download
[03:37] <Stihl026> thats cute
[03:37] <omegacenti> !df
[03:37] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[03:37] <Xenguy> bulmer: well I don't have it bookmarked, but it was a very standard Ubuntu site tutorial/howto thingy... and then I googled when I had any problems...
[03:37] <naknomik> dabaR: what is the command for aptitude?
[03:37] <omegacenti> If I am seeing anything correctly... I only have .4g left unused?
[03:38] <dabaR> naknomik: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:38] <tm4> dabaR: also read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29
[03:38] <bulmer> Xenguy: so you are still using the default keys?
[03:38] <Toma-> omegacenti: yep.
[03:38] <erisco> does anyone know how to connect to a server through front page extensions?
[03:38] <martalli> naknomik - aptitude is a command line program
[03:38] <Xenguy> bulmer: with freenx, it is *really* nice when it works, but I also found I had to do configuration with ssh before it worked and I don't recall that stuff being documented very well, so
[03:38] <omegacenti> Toma-: But I just deleted 2.5GB of stuff... ?
[03:38] <preaction> erisco: for what purpose?
[03:38] <omegacenti> Toma-:  What gives?
[03:38] <martalli> sudo aptitude kde-base or something like that to get KDE
[03:38] <ohir> omegacenti your sda4 has in fact only 109M free
[03:38] <Xenguy> bulmer: oh yes, it has not been necessary to generate your own keys for quite some time to the best of my knowledge
[03:38] <naknomik> martalli: dabaR: If I run the aptitude command will it replace my gnome programs with KDE?
[03:38] <erisco> preaction, to upload files to the server.. there is no other way to connect to it
[03:38] <bulmer> Xenguy you repeated what i said earlier :)  difficult to configure
[03:38] <mjunx> naknomik, no, it just adds it
[03:39] <Toma-> omegacenti: from / or from /media/sda1?
[03:39] <martalli> If you really want KDE you might try mepis instead - it is a ubuntu based distro (and works great on my laptop)
[03:39] <preaction> erisco: sounds like you need a better hosting provider :(
[03:39] <tm4> anyone else suffering from firefox running relatively slow on beryl with an ati radeon and open source drivers?
[03:39] <Xenguy> bulmer: yes, it is tricky, but worth it once you succeed in getting things working -- fast :-)
[03:39] <martalli> naknomik - better yet, it will clutter your computer with both lol
[03:39] <mjunx> tm4, what chipset?
[03:39] <naknomik> mjunx: then how do I remove gnome desktop then?
[03:39] <tm4> radeon 9800 pro
[03:39] <omegacenti> Toma-: From my Trash bin which had stuff deleted from the TEMP folder in my home folder from Amule.
[03:39] <bulmer> Xenguy: thats my goal..faster x windows
[03:39] <Xenguy> bulmer: and more importantly, not *too* tricky :-)
[03:39] <mjunx> naknomik, remove all the gnome packages I guess
[03:39] <omegacenti> Toma-: So, in other words, I have no clue.
[03:39] <Toma-> :P
[03:39] <Xenguy> bulmer: just keep at it, you will get there
[03:40] <tm4> mjunx: beryl runs fine, ive just not found anyone with a radeon that has got it running as smooth as gnome without beryl
[03:40] <Xenguy> bulmer: you know about seveas repo, right?
[03:40] <naknomik> mjunx: martalli: how do I remove all gnome programs without breaking my install and get KDE?
[03:40] <rbil> tm4: not finding it runs particularly slow, but have found that FireFox is pretty buggy running under Edgy compared to the version that runs under Dapper
[03:40] <ohir> omegacenti what is your /media/sda1 partition?
[03:40] <gesus> hello... i used to be able to play music and watch tv via my computer (tv out and audio out into amplifier then into tv) when i had windows xp.  now with ubuntu i can do neither.. for why?
[03:40] <bulmer> Xenguy: its not a show stopper for me, its just nice to have it working though
[03:40] <dabaR> naknomik: the aptitude is good to use for such installations, cause it keeps track of which packages are installed with which package, so kubuntu-desktop will pull many other packages as dependencies. Then after you decide you like gnome better, you can just sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, and it will remove everything that was installed with it. That way you do not have to track down packages.
[03:40] <omegacenti> Toma-: Where is my home folder located in relation to everything that is known as the labyrinth of linux way of displaying trees.
[03:40] <Toma-> omegacenti: did you click "Empty Trash Bin" or did you delete it by some other means?
[03:40] <erisco> preaction, it is not hosting, this is someone else's server
[03:40] <martalli> I think you install kubuntu-desktop ("sudu apt-get kubuntu-desktop)
[03:40] <dabaR> gesus: cause you did not set it up.
[03:40] <tm4> rbil: do you suggest a down-grade?
[03:40] <omegacenti> ohir: Unfortunately its a virus partition called Windows XP.
[03:40] <bulmer> Xenguy: already have downloaded stuff from his link
[03:40] <Toma-> omegacenti: its in /home
[03:40] <erisco> preaction, I am running website updates on it.. I know it is burtal.. but
[03:40] <martalli> Then you can remove the ubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <erisco> preaction, brutal*
[03:41] <Xenguy> bulmer: yes it is (though there is an annoying windows incompatibility with cygwin as I found out)
[03:41] <martalli> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <omegacenti> Toma-: And /home is where exactly?
[03:41] <Xenguy> bulmer: good
[03:41] <preaction> erisco: so you're not paying for it, you don't administrate it, and you can't have anyone install a proper SSH or FTP daemon on it?
[03:41] <bruenig> you can remove the ubuntu-desktop whenever you want, it is just a meta package
[03:41] <rbil> tm4: not sure? I'm hoping that a future version will iron out whatever causes FF to crash so often
[03:41] <omegacenti> Toma-: I mean, physically on my harddrive.
[03:41] <Stihl026> I gave up on people a long time ago your help for newbie is junk
[03:41] <gesus> dabaR, where do i set it up though? i thought audio/video out where just always on?
[03:41] <Stihl026> ban me
[03:41] <naknomik> aah! ok.. martalli: is there a difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[03:41] <martalli> Personally, I think removing whole desktops is a little dicey, even for a debian based distro like ubuntu
[03:41] <rbil> tm4: it might be Edgy itself
[03:41] <Toma-> omegacenti: oh... probably somewhere around the middle???
[03:41] <ohir> Toma- omegacenti has one linux partitiom, sda4 which is /
[03:41] <omegacenti> Toma-: Sweet! Wheres the cream filling?
[03:41] <bruenig> martalli, it doesn't remove the whole desktop, it is a meta package
[03:41] <bulmer> Xenguy am very close to get it connected..just something about the user not authenticated right
[03:41] <martalli> Some people claim aptitude is better than apt-get
[03:41] <tehquickness> How hard is it to collapse all the mp3s of one folder with sub foldrs into just one folder???? This is really starting to get on my nerves!
[03:41] <dabaR> gesus: maybe you can search for "tv ubuntu" on google
[03:42] <tm4> rbil: i've notice that firefox, thunderbird, and songbird all run a bit sluggish in comparison to the rest of the apps on edgy. i know that mozilla is all bout their xul ui system and i cant help but wonder if that causes issues
[03:42] <Toma-> ohir: o rly? im looking at his pastbin too.
[03:42] <bruenig> tehquickness, what are you trying to do?
[03:42] <jake_> hi everybody im new to ubuntu, can i use the beryl window manager on my savage s3 graphics?
[03:42] <mjunx> tehquickness, you can use amarok to move your audio files around
[03:42] <ok_kid> Mortalli: are you still there?
[03:42] <martalli> naknomik - betetr as in beter at resolving dependencies (sorry to not make that clear)
[03:42] <tehquickness> I have a bunch of mp3s in a bunch of sub folders, I just wnat them to be under one folder
[03:42] <ohir> omegacenti I think that you has 'everything' installed and 6G partition is too small for it.
[03:42] <martalli> ok_kid - yeah but I should probably head hoem soon
[03:42] <Xenguy> bulmer: /etc/ssh/sshd_config may need to be configured
[03:42] <martalli> ok_kid - Did it work?
[03:42] <bulmer> jake_: it has to be able to do 3-d rendering, which a savage i dont think it can..
[03:42] <tehquickness> Maybe I will try amrok
[03:42] <stiv2k> can i set my ubuntu server to periodically update its package repositories
[03:43] <Xenguy> bulmer: google all errors you get
[03:43] <ok_kid> you helped me, and i was able to resolve the problem...
[03:43] <omegacenti> Toma-: WHat I dont get is that / is just one partition on my hardrive, and my hardrive should be the root of all trees, yet somehow you can follow Root, the root of linux, to a branch labelled devices... to find the hardrive its running off of!
[03:43] <ok_kid> just wanted to thank you
[03:43] <mjunx> stiv2k, of course, via crontab
[03:43] <martalli> ok_kid - great!
[03:43] <bulmer> Xenguy: i see the connect attempt on my logs..
[03:43] <erisco> preaction, noppers.
[03:43] <naknomik> dabaR: martalli: I ran sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop and it complains couldn't find any package like that... or some such.
[03:43] <martalli> ok_kids - you are very welcome
[03:43] <irunwithscissors> so nunqn
[03:43] <OMGLAZERS> Can anyone help me in properly using the tar command to back up my root filesystem? Just not sure on exactly how to use it and I don't want to mess it up
[03:43] <ok_kid> i used the editor, and it said an error occrured but the file was changed anyway
[03:43] <preaction> omegacenti: / is not a partition on your hard drive, / is the root directory
[03:43] <stiv2k> mjunx: is it safe/secure/recommended ?
[03:43] <ok_kid> so it is booting up the way i wanted now.
[03:43] <Xenguy> bulmer: google all errors, you will get information you need
[03:43] <ok_kid> thanks a lot
[03:43] <mjunx> stiv2k, only if you're using dapper I guess
[03:43] <mjunx> or debian stable ;)
[03:43] <omegacenti> preaction: And the confusion has has drifted in with a cold wet feeeling...
[03:43] <stiv2k> mjunx: im using edgy
[03:43] <martalli> naknomik - that sounds strange since I am looking at it in my synaptic window
[03:43] <bulmer> Xenguy okee
[03:44] <ok_kid> i dont study programming any more so i mostly learn by trial and error...
[03:44] <dabaR> naknomik: serious? weird. show your /etc/apt/sources.list file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please
[03:44] <mjunx> I wouldn't recommend doing it on a production server that has to have maximal uptime
[03:44] <Toma-> omegacenti: think of / as the start of everything. you drives are mounted at a specific point on the drive (/media) just to have some consistency.
[03:44] <ok_kid> i have tried some Linux several times, but always got frustrated.
[03:44] <preaction> omegacenti: it's just an organizational tool. in BSD-land it gets far worse, they advocate a different "disklabel" for /boot, /usr, /home, /tmp, /var, and swap
[03:44] <stiv2k> mjunx: its more like an experimental box in my closet that i use to learn stuff
[03:44] <tm4> mjunx: are you running the latest beryl from svn or the latest stable (assuming you've got a radeon and oss driver)?
[03:44] <stiv2k> mjunx: and to crunch for SETI
[03:44] <ok_kid> i am doing better with this Ubuntu, than with some of the others i tried.
[03:44] <martalli> ok_kid - no problem, I'm not a programmer, I am a doctor, so I am sure you can learn this stuff over time too
[03:44] <Xenguy> bulmer: example: I needed this for things to work: nx@127.0.0.1
[03:44] <preaction> omegacenti: there's just a disk that's mounted at "/"
[03:44] <jake_> bulmer: how can i know that my graphics dont do 3d graphics rendering?
[03:44] <Xenguy> bulmer: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:44] <omegacenti> okay, then If I just emptied 2.3 gigs of stuff out of my trashbin... then shouldn't I have 2.3 gigs of free space on sda4?
[03:45] <mjunx> tm4, I've got an intel and nvidia card, but I was wondering because you might be better off with the radeon driver
[03:45] <xexos> so like
[03:45] <mjunx> stiv2k, then you should be alright
[03:45] <bulmer> Xenguy: whats the line that requires that?
[03:45] <dabaR> omegacenti: unless you have /home on a diff partition
[03:45] <preaction> omegacenti: depends on the tool you use. df won't show it because they aren't "free" as so much as they are "available to be written over"
[03:45] <Xenguy> bulmer: sorry, I meant 'AllowUsers' in that file
[03:45] <ok_kid> i would like to be able to rip cd using the lame incoder to my library, but i have not been able to get my program to even recognized the cd in the drawer.
[03:45] <tm4> mjunx: definitely not - i've been down that road before and that road took me off the edge of a cliff face first ;)
[03:45] <Toma-> omegacenti: yep. unless its in some other hidden trash directory in your home folder
[03:45] <bulmer> jake_: read on the user manual of your video card?
[03:45] <naknomik> martalli: where is the sources.list file ?
[03:45] <martalli> ok_kid - if you ran the editor from the command line it will spit out all sorts of debug info to the command line.  You can safely ignore that almost all the time
[03:45] <Xenguy> bulmer:  if you use 'AllowUsers' directive in /etc/ssh/sshd_config...
[03:45] <mjunx> naknomik, in /etc/apt/
[03:45] <sgentry6> tehquickness: do you have csh?
[03:46] <omegacenti> Toma-: That would be what I would call.. Evil.
[03:46] <xexos> i got those nvidia drivers like i was told to, and followed all of the instructuions, but now i cant even use it, its gives me this funky x server failed to start crap
[03:46] <Xenguy> bulmer: then I needed that configured for access to work
[03:46] <ok_kid> ok
[03:46] <martalli> naknomik /etc/apt
[03:46] <martalli> mjunx ya beat me to it lol
[03:46] <ohir> omegacenti do: du -h /*
[03:46] <omegacenti> preaction: Wow, the level of confusion your magic words incite... astounding! :)
[03:46] <omegacenti> !du
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <palbuddy> help a newbie!  I'm trying to play .mp3s on a hard drive I used to use for windows. xp, how in linux ubuntu ultimate to I access it?
[03:46] <mjunx> or in internet terms, martalli, that's "efb"
[03:46] <tehquickness> what is csh?
[03:46] <bulmer> Xenguy: thats the problem the tutorials i/'ve seen does not say if you need an nx user added to /etc/passwd or nx user is some kind of virtual user
[03:46] <mjunx> !codecs | palbuddy
[03:46] <ubotu> palbuddy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:46] <ok_kid> just watching the chat....it is interesting
[03:46] <Xenguy> bulmer: that's an example of the largely undocumented stuff that annoys
[03:46] <preaction> omegacenti: apologies, you learn the jargon as you go alone, i promise.
[03:46] <ohir> omegacenti do: after some time it will print you sizes of directories under /
[03:46] <tehquickness> I can download it
[03:46] <mjunx> ok_kid, I can hardly keep up ;P
[03:47] <jimmygoon> palbuddy: didn't we mount your HD last night?
[03:47] <Toma-> omegacenti: sorry dood. ive got to go
[03:47] <ok_kid> in the mid 80's i was an IBM programmer. but since these micros came out i have not had much experience.
[03:47] <palbuddy> it didn't work jimmygoon
[03:47] <tehquickness> I can install it
[03:47] <jimmygoon> mjunx, If I remember right, he needs help mounting
[03:47] <Xenguy> bulmer: I don't think you need to worry about that stuff, just /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:47] <omegacenti> Toma-: Thankyou Toma. Won't forget it. :)
[03:47] <palbuddy> yes I do! jimmy
[03:47] <preaction> omegacenti: basically thus, the space isn't Empty, but if something needs the space it can use it.
[03:47] <dabaR> ok_kid: wow
[03:47] <Toma-> omegacenti: no probs! good luck with it :)
[03:47] <naknomik> martalli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9364/
[03:47] <ok_kid> the technology is going to fast for anyone, but God to keep up!
[03:47] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, goto your terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" this will list your partitions... then paste bin it for me
[03:47] <ohir> omegacenti if (as I suppose) your /usr is around 4,5G you just have too small partition and too much progs installed
[03:47] <omegacenti> Toma-: You're on my notify list. :)
[03:47] <jimmygoon> !paste | palbuddy
[03:47] <ubotu> palbuddy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <martalli> tehquickness - csh is an older shell used in linux instead of bash (Bourne again shell) ir the dash used these days
[03:47] <xexos> so, i got those nvidia drivers like i was told to, and followed all of the instructuions, but now i cant even use it, its gives me this funky x server failed to start crap
[03:47] <palbuddy> okay one sec here
[03:48] <bulmer> Xenguy off course one has to, otherwise the AllowUsers in sshd.conf will not allow it in
[03:48] <ok_kid> with IBM we learned COBOL, Assembler, and IBM CICS, but that is about all.
[03:48] <omegacenti> ohir: I just got done deleting mpegs arond 2.3gigs from /home.. so....
[03:48] <ok_kid> i am not sure any of them are even used anymore.
[03:48] <Xenguy> bulmer: that's the idea, yes
[03:48] <bulmer> ok_kid: you forgot fortran
[03:48] <omegacenti> ohir:  Like... less than 7 minutes ago.
[03:48] <tehquickness> martalli: how will csh help me?
[03:48] <ok_kid> we did not use that, but i know what it is: Formula Translator
[03:48] <rbil> xexos: post the error messages to pastebin and someone should be able to help you
[03:48] <sgentry6> tehquickness: sorry, I didn't see your response, I'm moving back and forth between my ubuntu box and my windows box
[03:48] <Xenguy> bulmer: also 'nx@whateverIPwantsin' is needed
[03:49] <martalli> naknomik - I think your sources.list file is fine for downloading kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <tehquickness> sgentry: I am open to anyhting at this point
[03:49] <sgentry6> tehquickness: I can give ya a quick command line to move all those mp3s to one folder in csh
[03:49] <omegacenti> ohir: I ran du -h /* it just printed out a huge list of files with numbers (guessing sizes) next to them.
[03:49] <ohir> omegacenti empty "Trashbin", close any unused app
[03:49] <sgentry6> tehquickness: I can't script for crap in bach
[03:49] <martalli> naknomik - try sudo aptitude update" first
[03:49] <sgentry6> bash
[03:49] <ohir> omegacenti then jesck with df -h again
[03:49] <bulmer> Xenguy: okay..i'll look it up later
[03:49] <martalli> tehquickness - I don't really know, unless you want to kick it like its 1989
[03:49] <tehquickness> sgentry6: ok well lets do that
[03:49] <ok_kid> Linux is based on Unix, and Unix came out of Berkley, didn't it?
[03:49] <Xenguy> bulmer: good luck
[03:49] <palbuddy> okay I just pasted it
[03:49] <xexos> rbil: ill try
[03:49] <ok_kid> around 1969....
[03:50] <bulmer> Xenguy: thanks..
[03:50] <Xenguy> ok_kid: so did LSD :p
[03:50] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, I need the link to it...
[03:50] <Xenguy> bulmer: yw
[03:50] <omegacenti> ohir: One second, I sudo's du -h /* just now.
[03:50] <martalli> sgentry6 - can't do it in bash oir dash?
[03:50] <omegacenti> sudo'd *
[03:50] <palbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9365/
[03:50] <martalli> ok_kid Unix came out of the Bell Labs
[03:50] <sgentry6> martalli: I'm pretty much worthless in bash :)
[03:50] <palbuddy> the 100 gig is what I installed ubuntu to] 
[03:50] <ok_kid> LSD was much earlier than that....Timothy Leary was already in prison by then!
[03:50] <Xenguy> ok_kid: coincidence?  I think not!
[03:50] <rainwalker> How do I set/change a sound to be played when I plug in a device?
[03:50] <sgentry6> Im all up in the bash guide when I have to do any bash scripting
[03:50] <dabaR> ok_kid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[03:50] <Xenguy> ok_kid: hehe
[03:51] <tehquickness> what is the line to do that?
[03:51] <ok_kid> but Berkley is know for their drugs, and their programming.
[03:51] <omegacenti> Okay... screw it... If I run Gparted right now and divert some free space from my windows partition, that won't screw up anything will it?
[03:51] <martalli> ok_kid - uc berkely reqrote unix bit by bit until it was completey rewritten...they then released that onder the so-called "bsd" license
[03:51] <Xenguy>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
[03:51] <bruenig> tehquickness, did you figure it out yet, I think, I figured out a way
[03:51] <jimmygoon> ok palbuddy I want you to type 2 commands: "sudo mkdir -p /media/windows-stuff"  then "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff"
[03:51] <dabaR> LSD, BSD
[03:51] <Xenguy> aha!
[03:51] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, tell me how that goes
[03:51] <palbuddy> okay one sec here jimmy
[03:51] <martalli> sgenbtry - same here - I have my first bash script posted on my wall lol
[03:51] <omegacenti> ohir: Okay... screw it... If I run Gparted right now and divert some free space from my windows partition, that won't screw up anything will it?
[03:51] <tehquickness> No solution yet, I think we are trying to go old school and use a csh script
[03:51] <pavs> BSD was based on LSD? :)
[03:52] <ok_kid> Berkley Software Distro....yea a cousing of mine is an ISP and he uses it....he likes it!
[03:52] <bruenig> tehquickness, I figured out a small line in bash
[03:52] <mjunx> BSD was made under the influence of LSD ;P
[03:52] <Xenguy> tehquickness: oh gawd, not the csh script
[03:52] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, thats always risky to some degree  --- resizing ntfs partitions all willynilly is at least...
[03:52] <tehquickness> hahaha
[03:52] <ok_kid> sorry. "cousin" mispelling
[03:52] <Xenguy> mjunx: yeah mon
[03:52] <palbuddy> mount: special device /dev/hdbl does not exist
[03:52] <bulmer> well Haight and Ashbury still exist probably not much different  from earlier years
[03:52] <omegacenti> jimmygoon: Got a different solution?
[03:52] <palbuddy> that's the message I get jimmy
[03:52] <tehquickness> I am desperate  here lol
[03:52] <martalli> omagecenti - you need to have the entire physical disk unmounted usually to resize partitions.
[03:52] <ohir> omegacenti don't think that you can resize partition and keep its content intact
[03:52] <bruenig> tehquickness, here is what you do. cd into the master directory that has all the subdirectories and stuff in it, and do this mv $(find . | grep mp3) /path/to/new/directory
[03:52] <jimmygoon> omega: find out whats taking up so much space :S
[03:52] <martalli> Use the gparted livecd for best results IMHO
[03:52] <Xenguy> tehquickness: whatever works :-)
[03:52] <tehquickness> ooo sneaky bruenig
[03:53] <user01> how do i upgrade to gaim 2.0.0beta6?
[03:53] <jimmygoon> SysRescCd ... google it... its the best disc to have at all times
[03:53] <omegacenti> ohir: I did JUST that with the 6.10 ubuntu CD. And my windows partition worked great ever since. That is how I am chatting with you all right now in a linux partition because of the efforts of qtparted.
[03:53] <bruenig> tehquickness, or cp I guess if you don't want to mess up the structure of what you have
[03:53] <sgentry6> if anyone can convert the to bash feel free: in csh I would do: "foreach f in (`find /path/to/many/mp3s -name '*.mp3'`)" then on the next line "mv $f where/I/want/them/all"
[03:53] <ohir> omegacenti do backup then get a windows tool tahat will preserve your win part
[03:53] <sgentry6> then on the last line end
[03:53] <dabaR> tehquickness: are they all under one dir, then many dirs, then files in those dirs, or is there more levels?
[03:53] <sgentry6> I'm sure there is a better way to do that
[03:53] <sgentry6> but, that is my quick and dirty way
[03:53] <ok_kid> i remember hearing of an interview at Haight and Ashbury street, of a hippy in the 60's. the interviewer asked what the hippy stood for.
[03:54] <omegacenti> ohir: But qtparted obviously did conserver my windows partition.
[03:54] <tehquickness> it would be like /music/artist/song   ---->>    /music/song
[03:54] <ok_kid> he said, you should be able to look at me and tell that i am anti establishment.....his clothes, etc.
[03:54] <dabaR> tehquickness: so itunes style?
[03:54] <palbuddy> any ideas jimmy?
[03:54] <ohir> omegacenti ok :) I said I don't think so, better safe than sorry.
[03:54] <bruenig> tehquickness, did that work?
[03:54] <martalli> sgentry6 - just out of curiosity - when did you first gaze upon POSIX and what OS was it?
[03:54] <user01> the gaim people said my problem is fixed in the beta6 release
[03:54] <omegacenti> ohir: If I've done it once, shouldn't it work again?
[03:54] <naknomik> martalli: now the update manager has started and is downloading some 139 packages, so I've to wait till it finishes.
[03:54] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, give me a sec I missed your msg about
[03:54] <jimmygoon> above*
[03:54] <tehquickness> hmm cose
[03:54] <palbuddy> mount: special device /dev/hdbl does not exist
[03:54] <palbuddy> that was the message I got
[03:54] <tehquickness> it is breaking the songs up because of the spaces in the names
[03:55] <user01> is there a ubuntu package for beta6?
[03:55] <tehquickness> stupid song names
[03:55] <martalli> for me it was berkely unix in 1989 and it was the inimatible csh
[03:55] <ohir> omegacenti I am not a windows guru, never had a dual OS box
[03:55] <bruenig> tehquickness, oh, need some xargs it appears
[03:55] <tehquickness> yeah
[03:55] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, that is /dev/hdb1 as is 'h' 'd' 'b' ONE
[03:55] <tehquickness> this is a tough one
[03:55] <martalli> naknomik congrats, you are headed for that shining city on a hill that is KDE
[03:55] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, copy/paste for best results ;)
[03:55] <tehquickness> I have gotten close
[03:55] <sgentry6> martalli: I just graduated college last may :)
[03:55] <omegacenti> Also, somethins real bad wrong were I burn CD's.. I inserted a blank CD into drive, tried burning CD, and I got nothing, not even a notifcation message of failiure. Any suggestions?
[03:55] <palbuddy> okay :) brb
[03:55] <ohir> omegacenti likely you did an _empty_ space for linux partition
[03:55] <naknomik> I started my UNIX journey with SCO UNIX with System V Release 3.2!! Don't laugh
[03:56] <omegacenti> ohir: Sorry, could you elborate on that?
[03:56] <martalli> sgentry6 - then where did you run accross csh?
[03:56] <omegacenti> elaborate*
[03:56] <tehquickness> I will be amazed once we solve this.
[03:56] <edifice_melody> Question: After a strange failed install of OSS-Linux drivers for an m-audio midi controller...I cannot attempt reinstall and update icon is staying active and clicking it the progress bar reaches full then it just closes, whats going on?
[03:56] <omegacenti> ohir: There should be no problems about adding space to the linux partition though right?
[03:56] <sgentry6> martalli: all of our programming in college (after my freshman year) was done in linux.  The schools servers defaulted to csh
[03:57] <martalli> tehquickness - are they scattered like easter eggs, or could you do it with the gui filemanager, too?
[03:57] <tehquickness> I have been trying the file manager but there are alot and so it would take a long time to click in and out of all the files
[03:57] <sgentry6> martalli: it just so happened that led me to a job doing linux programming, and it just so happened that their build environment was in csh
[03:57] <ohir> omegacenti as far as I know, can be a problem. But I can be wrong, I am console folk.
[03:57] <martalli> sgentry6 - glas to hear they are using linux for teaching.  My cousin just finished at Iowa State last year and seemed to have barely have heeard of linux
[03:57] <mjunx> as if there weren't enough chatting in here without the socialising >_>
[03:57] <tehquickness> It is like 300 is mp3s, and 40 or 50 folders
[03:57] <palbuddy> heh sorry how do you copy and paste in xchat?
[03:58] <martalli> s/glas/glad
[03:58] <mjunx> palbuddy, select the text and middle click
[03:58] <kelsin> tehquickness: for i in */*; do echo cp \"$i\" \"`basename $i`\"; done
[03:58] <jimmygoon> palbuddy: select the text and hit CTRL+C -- to paste in terminal you have to right click and choose "PASE"
[03:58] <kelsin> tehquickness: maybe change */* to */*.mp3
[03:58] <omegacenti> ohir: Is there something wrong with graphical inputs? I do not understand such opposition. At least have applications that have a console part and a gui part... is that too much to ask?
[03:58] <sgentry6> martalli: I can't function without the good old vim any longer.  I honestly get lost in a IDE
[03:58] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, "paste**"
[03:58] <rbil> tehquickness: what are u trying to do?
[03:58] <palbuddy> any keyboard shortcut? I have a 2 button mouse and a mousewheel?
[03:58] <kelsin> tehquickness: that will output the copy commands so you can check it, then save the output and run it, or change that to actually do it
[03:58] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, CTRL+C
[03:59] <martalli> lol - never do any programming, although I would like to bang out some simple things for my PDA, but i just don't have the time
[03:59] <palbuddy> that's what I thought] 
[03:59] <palbuddy> ctrl v for paste?
[03:59] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, no ... paste doesn't work like that in terminal
[03:59] <palbuddy> even in terminal?
[03:59] <palbuddy> oh
[03:59] <ohir> omegacenti nothing wrong, but I don't know gui tools enough to tell you if they can _resize_ partitions on dual OS disk.
[03:59] <Xenguy> palbuddy: that is d0ze-speak
[03:59] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, You have to right-click and CHOOSE paste from the menu in Gnome-terminal
[03:59] <palbuddy> yea yeah I'm converting
[03:59] <palbuddy> ;)
[03:59] <alex__> hello all
[03:59] <mjunx> palbuddy, click both buttons at the same time
[03:59] <Xenguy> palbuddy: hehe
[03:59] <martalli> palbuddy - in the terminal try "SHIFT-INSERT"
[04:00] <tehquickness> Simply put, I have /music/artist/song and i am trying to get it to /music/songs
[04:00] <Xenguy> yes
[04:00] <mjunx> you can probably do ctrl-shift-v for paste I think
[04:00] <mjunx> or, if you were using vi keybindings, Esc p
[04:00] <mjunx> which is a useful thing I just discovered today (in zsh at least)
[04:00] <kelsin> tehquickness: for i in */*.mp3; do echo cp \"$i\" \"`basename $i`\"; done
[04:00] <martalli> i just tried shift-insert and that worked too.  shift-insert even works in basic terinals like rxvt or whatnot\
[04:00] <jimmygoon> palbuddy,  Ctrl+Shift+v works for me to paste in terminal
[04:00] <kelsin> tehquickness: that should be very close, save that output and check it, then run it
[04:00] <edifice_melody> what do I do when a .deb package fails to install and sudo apt-get upgrade outputs this E: The package oss-linux needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:00] <kelsin> tehquickness: (from the /music dir)
[04:00] <shido> why does Python asks me for a password everytime i start up Gajim?
[04:01] <ohir> omegacenti even if these tools can, I wuld do full backup before fiddling with partitions.
[04:01] <palbuddy> okay
[04:01] <dabaR> shido: does it darken the screen?
[04:01] <palbuddy> well it did nothing
[04:01] <palbuddy> no password nothing
[04:01] <shido> no dabaR
[04:01] <martalli> mjunx -- OMG vi - go for the light - choose nano
[04:01] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, so it was "successful"?
[04:01] <martalli> mjunx - j/k
[04:02] <mjunx> I'm a vi-junkie
[04:02] <shido> dabaR i just have to type my password everytime i startup gajim..its kinda annoying
[04:02] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, look at your desktop... do you see a new "drive icon"....??
[04:02] <mjunx> hehe
[04:02] <Xenguy> martalli: I cringe whenever I read comments like that...
[04:02] <mjunx> I might've learnt emacs instead, but I just have a bad memory (and I don't remember there being an emacstutor program)
[04:02] <Xenguy> martalli: it's like saying, an elephant gun???? Use this pea-shooter instead!
[04:02] <tehquickness> kelsin, this giving things like this basename: extra operand `Massacre'
[04:02] <tehquickness> Try `basename --help' for more information.
[04:02] <tehquickness> cp "50 Cent/The Massacre (Edited)" ""
[04:02] <tehquickness> basename: extra operand `Advisory)'
[04:02] <tehquickness> Try `basename --help' for more information.
[04:02] <Xenguy> mjunx: there is a tutorial or something
[04:02] <kelsin> mjunx: ctrl-h t gives the tutor
[04:02] <omegacenti> ohir: This is the part where I ask, is there an easy way to do a automated back up of a partition with ease of use with something like
[04:02] <palbuddy> afraid not
[04:03] <palbuddy> the same icons as before
[04:03] <omegacenti> ohir: insert next disc and hit enter?
[04:03] <tehquickness> I think I am just going to break down and do it by hand with the gui
[04:03] <eauxnguye1> hi I need help. I have searched the forums and docs on this. installed 6.10 on an AMD proc and any app I attempt to install from add/remove returns "....cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)
[04:03] <martalli> lol I am a lamer - when I want to edit menu.lst I just want to move letters around
[04:03] <martalli> Of course, there is the original, the great "ed"
[04:03] <naknomik> so
[04:03] <martalli> http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html
[04:03] <kelsin> tehquickness: you'll have to debug it yourself, it's working for me and all of my music (including japenses characters and tons of long names with spaces)
[04:03] <eck> !offtopic
[04:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:03] <Xenguy> martalli: sure it works in the short run, but in the longrun, real *nix users learn vi(m)
[04:03] <martalli> I was caught in its clutches in the days past myself
[04:03] <ohir> omegacenti there are such (gui) tools but they need some knowledge
[04:03] <mjunx> hmm, that seems hard to find out on my own lol
[04:04] <naknomik> how do I get my wireless working?
[04:04] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, more terminal stuff
[04:04] <rbil> tehquickness: you could probably just do a search in Nautilus for the mp3s and it'll display them all. Then highlight them all and drag them to where u want them :-)
[04:04] <Xenguy> martalli: sure I'm biased, I'm damn good with vi(m) now ;-)
[04:04] <martalli> xenguy - back in the day I actually preferred emacs
[04:04] <tehquickness> I am suprised that something like find -iname "*.mp3" -exec cp would not work
[04:04] <palbuddy> okay
[04:04] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, type "cd /media/windows*"
[04:04] <K3nto> omegacenti: can you only use a theme/skin for the playing screen and not the menus?
[04:04] <martalli> but that was before I had seen POSIX ith a gui desktop
[04:04] <K3nto> omegacenti: in rickbox i mean
[04:04] <martalli> 1989 and the like lol
[04:04] <Xenguy> martalli: emacs has respect from here, but it is not *always* installed on any given system
[04:04] <omegacenti> ohir: Which applications are those.. I have times to read the howto's.. Knowledge only comes from patience.
[04:04] <martalli> xenguy - right you are
[04:04] <Xenguy> martalli: vi is *always* there
[04:04] <palbuddy> okay now I have a subdirectory (is that term right?)
[04:04] <mjunx> I like ed
[04:05] <Xenguy> mjunx: haha
[04:05] <mjunx> you can write a script to write a file
[04:05] <ohir> omegacenti and you don't have enough space for backup
[04:05] <mjunx> it's awesome
[04:05] <martalli> xenguy - no vi on puppy linux.  I was shocked.
[04:05] <xexos> so, i got those nvidia drivers like i was told to, and followed all of the instructuions, but now i cant even use it, its gives me this funky x server failed to start crap
[04:05] <eck> editor wars are _definitely_ for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:05] <eauxnguye1> vi = good
[04:05] <Xenguy> martalli: they are wrong :P
[04:05] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, sure.... type "ls" as in LS but lowercase
[04:05] <omegacenti> ohir: I want to do a DVD backup. something akin to ghost.
[04:05] <martalli> They use something called mp, which actaully worked and marked up the syntax on my menu.lst file
[04:05] <Xenguy> martalli: it is tradition - you just can't mess with that sometimes ;-)
[04:05] <mjunx> omegacenti, dd works well for that
[04:05] <palbuddy> yes I have directories and some files
[04:05] <omegacenti> mjunx: DD eh?
[04:05] <omegacenti> !dd
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <mjunx> you can't fit emacs on an embeded system lol
[04:06] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, google SysRescCd ... It will do wonders for you, including ghost like stuff!
[04:06] <martalli> xenguy - I won't disagree. Even I can mess around in vi alright for my simple purposes
[04:06] <mjunx> omegacenti, /bin/dd
[04:06] <tehquickness> I am going to read up on xargs and try that
[04:06] <omegacenti> jimmygoon: And the gflood fo information flowed, and it was good.
[04:06] <kelsin> tehquickness: it should: find -iname "*.mp3" -exec cp {} . \;
[04:06] <Xenguy> martalli: if you take 3 months or so and just learn it -- then you know real power ;-)
[04:06] <jimmygoon> omegacenti, huh??
[04:06] <kelsin> tehquickness: again from the music dir
[04:06] <ohir> omegacenti for me dd and cdrecord is "ghost", but these are console tools.
[04:06] <martalli> I think macos comes with vi, too. But they had my trusty old pico (fromt he days of pine)
[04:06] <mjunx> tehquickness, I was going to suggest that a while back, but I didn't, so do that
[04:06] <martalli> xenguy lol
[04:06] <RxDx> what is the command to show text on terminal?
[04:06] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, do they look like your windows drive????
[04:06] <RxDx> i want to see /etc/fstab in terminal
[04:06] <martalli> xenguy - I'm not a programmer
[04:06] <palbuddy> yes they do!
[04:07] <palbuddy> though in preatty colors ;)
[04:07] <omegacenti> I just manned DD and it says its something to convert files... wth?
[04:07] <sgentry6> Rxdx: cat or more
[04:07] <tehquickness> do I start i the the target dir or the master dir?
[04:07] <xexos> anyone?
[04:07] <eauxnguye1> or use vi for 7 years as a lamer like me
[04:07] <Xenguy> martalli: I'll shutup now, cos I know I'm starting to sound like a vim bigot ;-)
[04:07] <RxDx> sgentry6, thanks
[04:07] <mjunx> RxDx, cat /etc/fstab
[04:07] <mjunx> or use less
[04:07] <mjunx> less > more
[04:07] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, good - now we need to get it into something called the FSTAB that way it will load on boot
[04:07] <ohir> omegacenti and now I cant remotely give you all switches it needs to do backup straight to dvd
[04:07] <RxDx> mjunx, thanks
[04:07] <jimmygoon> unfortunately I don't remember how to do that... soo.....
[04:07] <palbuddy> okay how do I do that?
[04:07] <omegacenti> ohir: eh?
[04:07] <martalli> xenguy -  you can be a vi/vim booster as long as I can hold on to my simple nano lol
[04:07] <mjunx> palbuddy, do what?
[04:07] <mjunx> this chat moves too fast
[04:07] <palbuddy> sorry talking to jimmy
[04:07] <jimmygoon> Can someone please help palbuddy insert this command "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff" into his fstab???? I don't remmeber how to
[04:07] <mjunx> ok
[04:08] <palbuddy> asking how to get into fstab
[04:08] <tehquickness> sorry I see missed your second comment
[04:08] <mjunx> oh
[04:08] <Xenguy> martalli: whatever works my friend - that is always my motto
[04:08] <Xenguy> mjunx: ignore some people :-)
[04:08] <kelsin> tehquickness: it should: find -iname "*.mp3" -execdir cp {} . \;
[04:08] <kelsin> tehquickness: you might need the execdir like someone else mentioned
[04:08] <omegacenti> jimmygoon: Oooo.. pretty --> SysRescCd
[04:08] <mjunx> put: /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff ntfs defaults 0 2
[04:08] <palbuddy> is that for me mjunx?
[04:08] <martalli> xenguy - someone will come along and start singing for kate, then emacs, then gedit, then....th3e world will come to an end
[04:08] <mjunx> yeah
[04:08] <jimmygoon> mjunx: you will need to walk though the insert process and what not
[04:08] <mjunx> well, as long as it's ntfs
[04:09] <mjunx> okay
[04:09] <jimmygoon> mjnux: it is ntfs
[04:09] <mjunx> sudo -s
[04:09] <palbuddy> I put that in termanal?
[04:09] <ohir> omegacenti your windows partition is ntfs mounted read-only? likely
[04:09] <mjunx> echo "that stuff I said" >>/etc/fstab
[04:09] <Xenguy> martalli: then they will suddently lose their X one day, and I will win :P
[04:09] <martalli> latter all - im headed home
[04:09] <tehquickness> sweet! its working
[04:09] <xexos> so, i got those nvidia drivers like i was told to, and followed all of the instructions, and then restarted x server. now i cant even use it, its gives me this funky x server failed to start crap. Theres nothing that says anything useful in the error messages
[04:09] <mngrif> i have a nfs mount that's giving me some issues: ls: reading directory /home-thc/: Input/output error
[04:09] <mjunx> okay, palbuddy, here's what to do
[04:09] <pascutti> can anyone tell me the diference between kubuntu-cd and kubuntu-dvd ?? is the dvd live too? what it's inside?
[04:09] <tehquickness> You know what. I think I tried that earlier and it was working but it doesnt output anyhting till its done so I just thought it was doing nothing
[04:09] <palbuddy> okay
[04:09] <mngrif> i've restarted everything involved and still no go
[04:09] <mjunx> gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:09] <ohir> omegacenti have you any old 8G disk dusting in bottom drawer?
[04:09] <martalli> xenguy - in any case, people should have some cli tools available - I would always recommend a knowledge of lynx and epic for when you kil  your X
[04:09] <mjunx> at the bottom of the file, add the line I gave you earlier
[04:10] <mjunx> save
[04:10] <palbuddy> okay one sec
[04:10] <naknomik> I have 512MB ram, would KDE run fine on that?
[04:10] <mjunx> then do "sudo mount -a" in the terminal and you're done
[04:10] <mjunx> naknomik, yes
[04:10] <omegacenti> ohir: Maybe, but again, this is a laptop.. Hooking up a Hard drive would prove to be painful.
[04:10] <Xenguy> martalli: exactly - if you don't know at least one non-X text editor, then you are, frankly, a fool...
[04:10] <tehquickness> You guys are awesome, again this is why i love linux because of the community.
[04:10] <ohir> omegacenti usb?
[04:10] <Xenguy> martalli: and what about editing over SSH connections?
[04:10] <omegacenti> ohir: None.
[04:10] <mjunx> tehquickness, your nick also describes this channel >.<
[04:10] <palbuddy> okay saved
[04:10] <tehquickness> haha
[04:11] <mjunx> Xenguy, ever heard of VNC? lol
[04:11] <ohir> omegacenti any other box nearby?
[04:11] <xexos> anyone want to help me >.<
[04:11] <mjunx> xexos, with what?
[04:11] <Xenguy> mjunx: sure, but that is major overhead - sometimes 'less is more'
[04:11] <mjunx> yeah
[04:11] <mngrif> if you have problems with a CLI text editor, setting up a vnc server would be the most daunting task ever!
[04:11] <mjunx> which is why I like vim
[04:11] <omegacenti> ohir:  Its Mute.. I.e. no monitor. No monitor I have access to for 300 miles.
[04:11] <Xenguy> mjunx: you learn the low-level stuff, and you are set
[04:11] <mjunx> right
[04:11] <tehquickness> mjunx: this is my last nerdy remmant from high school lan parties every other weeks lol
[04:12] <xexos> mjunx: so, i got those nvidia drivers like i was told to, and followed all of the instructions, and then restarted x server. now i cant even use it, its gives me this funky x server failed to start crap. Theres nothing that says anything useful in the error messages
[04:12] <naknomik> for light editing I use vim, but for code development, nothing beats a well configured emacs.
[04:12] <mjunx> xexos, check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:12] <palbuddy> okay mjunx after all of that, where are the files at in file browser?
[04:12] <mjunx> palbuddy, which files?
[04:12] <xexos> mjunx: how? (im a noob)
[04:12] <mjunx> and in which file browser?
[04:12] <palbuddy> well, after I did all of that in terminal, I was hoping I could play .mp3s from that drive
[04:12] <omegacenti> jimmygoon|afk: dang.. AFK.
[04:12] <palbuddy> mjunx
[04:13] <Xenguy> naknomik: now you begin the religious wars :-)
[04:13] <mjunx> xexos, open gedit, file -> open and find /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:13] <eauxnguye1> Can anyone help me with this "cannot be installed on your computer type" error?
[04:13] <mjunx> palbuddy, it depends on where you said to put them, I don't remember what command you used
[04:13] <subopt> Where do i find the latest Feisty, including the Alternate CD?
[04:13] <xexos> mjunx: once i log in, i get failed to start x server... then some blinking _
[04:13] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: for what program?
[04:13] <mjunx> oh yeah, sorry
[04:13] <ohir> omegacenti. So far I see one possible way to keep your data (almost) safe. Reboot to windows, install something that can read ext3 partition (afair winrar/windowscommander and like progs have plugins for reading ext3)
[04:14] <mjunx> xexos, log in via that terminal (or press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the login screen to do so)
[04:14] <eauxnguye1> just about any app using the add remove on 6.10 an AMD system
[04:14] <mngrif> ohir: omegacenti: ext2ifs is a driver that will read ext2
[04:14] <rhys> whoa. gnome xchat? wtf
[04:14] <eauxnguye1> gnucash, wine, xchat
[04:14] <mjunx> xexos, then run "grep 'EE' /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:14] <naknomik> Is there a date set for next ubuntu release?
[04:14] <ohir> omegacenti then get your data on that big win partition archived to .rar
[04:14] <sgentry6> if I had a dollar for each driver I've tried to get this dang wireless card working, well let's just say I would not go to work tomorrow
[04:14] <Joshooa> How come when i first install Ubuntu, my wireless card doesn't work, but on the site it says it works "out of the box"?
[04:14] <mjunx> sgentry6, is it a broadcom card?
[04:15] <mjunx> Joshooa, is it a broadcom card?
[04:15] <pabst^afk> anyone running ubuntu on a Lenovo laptop?
[04:15] <palbuddy> okay I think I found them mjunx but it says I don't have the necessary permission to open that folder
[04:15] <ohir> omegacenti then you may play with resizing
[04:15] <Xenguy> pabst: are you?
[04:15] <jlaustill> can anybody in here help me with a keyboard layout issue?
[04:15] <dougie> wth is lenovo?
[04:15] <mjunx> palbuddy, you might want to run "sudo chown yourname:yourname *.mp3" in that folder
[04:15] <pabst> Xenguy: no, but i was hoping to be
[04:15] <palbuddy> which is wierd because I only have myself on this computer
[04:15] <Xenguy> dougie: used to be thinkpad
[04:15] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: check your sources.list
[04:15] <jimmygoon|afk> I'm back omegacenti - though I cn't seem to change my nick back
[04:15] <dougie> ohhh
[04:15] <nalioth> Joshooa: you need to open your network properties and turn it on
[04:15] <palbuddy> okay one sec here
[04:15] <mjunx> dougie, thinkpad
[04:15] <dougie> ibm lol
[04:15] <rhys> so whats with network manager not connecting to non wpa networks/
[04:15] <sgentry6> mjunx: it's a realtex 8187 card
[04:15] <rhys> ?
[04:15] <mjunx> oh crap efb
[04:15] <omegacenti> jimmygoon|afk: does that rescue CD have some kind of automated CD/DVD backup system?
[04:16] <mjunx> rhys, you gotta use wpasupplicant for that
[04:16] <eauxnguye1> yep checked it here's the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9307/
[04:16] <Xenguy> pabst:  I hear there is good hardware support for linux - that is all (and I'm thinking, no pun intended, about buying one myself)
[04:16] <jimmygoon|afk> mjunx : "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff" into his fstab???? I don't remmeber how to
[04:16] <Joshooa> It's a linksys
[04:16] <jimmygoon|afk> omegacenti, I don't know if it can operate with dvd/cd's...
[04:16] <Joshooa> nalioth: How do I do that?
[04:16] <sgentry6> what type of filsystem is it jimmygoon|afk?
[04:16] <eauxnguye1> enabled multiverse etc. this time from the sources gui directly
[04:16] <mjunx> jimmygoon|afk, I gave him the line to add already
[04:16] <omegacenti> jimmygoon|afk: Good point.
[04:16] <jimmygoon|afk> sgentry6, palbuddy's is ntfs I believe
[04:16] <omegacenti> jimmygoon|afk: lol :)
[04:16] <tehquickness> mjunx: you are a machine, you must be solving 10 problems right now
[04:16] <mjunx> : /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff ntfs defaults 0 2
[04:16] <rhys> mjunx: no, you are an idiot. network manager supports wpa. it just hast to try to connect at least 3 times to any unsecured network.
[04:16] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: and uname -r returns what?
[04:17] <mjunx> tehquickness, yes, it's getting hard
[04:17] <pabst> Xenguy: good to hear... I ordered two of them with out thinking that my ultimate goal was to run Ubuntu. IBM has been grasping Linux pretty hard, so I would assume they have good support for Linux in general. Ya never know though
[04:17] <eauxnguye1> ns teh I can just follow this for my responses heh
[04:17] <mjunx> it's nice to have the highlighting thing in konversation
[04:17] <Joshooa> nalioth: In Kubuntu right now, all I have to do is go to the terminal and do dhclient, and then it's recognized, but Ubuntu wont do that, and also in Kubuntu, it comes up as ra0
[04:17] <rhys> :-<
[04:17] <omegacenti> mjunx: Indeed.
[04:17] <mjunx> rhys, since when has network-manager supported wpa?
[04:17] <mjunx> I'm on feisty and it still only supports wep
[04:17] <Joshooa> I th ink I can see it under wmaster0 or wlan0, but even if I enter the ESSID and WEP code, it wont connect
[04:17] <slvmchn> omegacenti: how'd it go? did it work
[04:17] <omegacenti> network-manager supports WPA.
[04:17] <palbuddy> it is ntfs
[04:17] <cafuego_> mjunx: feisty wireless is *broken*
[04:17] <rhys> mjunx: since...a while...
[04:17] <robb> anyone with a site/suggestions for xp > ubuntu migration? (single PC)
[04:17] <eauxnguye1> dabaR 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:18] <omegacenti> slvmchn: Did what work.. so many people have thrown ideas at me I don't know what to do.
[04:18] <Shadowpillar> question
[04:18] <omegacenti> slvmchn: What was your suggestion again?
[04:18] <mjunx> cafuego_, well I'm having fun using it lol
[04:18] <rhys> robb, google. its big. trust me
[04:18] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: is it a 64 bit install?
[04:18] <cafuego_> mjunx: network-manager has supported wpa for well over a year *at least*
[04:18] <mjunx> o rly?
[04:18] <cafuego_> yup
[04:18] <robb> mostly i'm concerned about converting file systems
[04:18] <mjunx> oh wait, right
[04:18] <rhys> cafuego_ , have any trouble with unsecured networks though?
[04:18] <mjunx> network-manager uses wpasupplicant IIRC
[04:18] <kelsin> mjunx: I've never used wpa, but it's required wpa-supplicant for as long as I can remember using it :)
[04:18] <omegacenti> mjunx: Mine even shows support for WPA2 (Thank God!)
[04:18] <eauxnguye1> well the amd isn't 64 bit. Did I manage to install the 64?
[04:18] <rhys> mjunx: it uses wpa_supplicant.
[04:19] <mjunx> I just remember knetworkmanager and how that's a wpasupplicant frontend IIRC
[04:19] <cafuego_> it does WPA2 Enterprise 802.11x radius just dandy, thankyou.
[04:19] <xexos> mjunx: i got to the terminal, how do i open the file?
[04:19] <palbuddy> mjunx I get 'permission denied'
[04:19] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: not likely. Try removing the us. from your cources.list.
[04:19] <palbuddy> sorry mjunx you are working overtime with us newbies
[04:19] <mjunx> xexos, via the "less" program
[04:19] <rhys> cafuego_, what about unsecured?
[04:19] <mjunx> heh
[04:19] <mjunx> I'm forgetting whose problem is whose
[04:19] <xexos> nvm, grep 'EE' /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:19] <eauxnguye1> ok thanks much dabaR will do
[04:19] <Shadowpillar> eauxnguye1: uname -a, if you see x86_64 you installed 64 bit
[04:19] <cafuego_> rhys: last time I used it with an unsecured network it was fine, until people started stacking access points on top of eachother
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:19] <omegacenti> slvmchn: I'm sorry, what was your suggestion again?
[04:19] <mjunx> xexos, I believe that should give you the errors X is giving
[04:19] <xexos> k
[04:19] <palbuddy> mjunx I have the ntfs hard drive that I want to access
[04:20] <slvmchn> i was just asking if diablo 2 worked
[04:20] <mjunx> alright, palbuddy
[04:20] <Shadowpillar> question, why does gnome-screensaver use up 100% cpu when idling? there is no screensaver running btw
[04:20] <rhys> cafuego_, ive seen some problems with unsecured on 2 machines, both broadcom, and 2 distros. so its not just ubuntu.
[04:20] <mjunx> have you opened /etc/fstab in gedit?
[04:20] <omegacenti> slvmchn: heck no.. so many problems right now... now even funny.
[04:20] <palbuddy> yes that's all done
[04:20] <rhys> both need to try to connect over 3 times to establish a connection
[04:20] <Shadowpillar> and it stops doing it when the password unlock screen comes up
[04:20] <rhys> is there a way to debug network manager?
[04:20] <Xenguy> pabst: prolly a good bet - let me know if you experience problems will ya?
[04:20] <mjunx> okay, palbuddy, add this line (without the colon) at the end
[04:20] <mjunx> : /dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff ntfs defaults 0 2
[04:20] <rhys> run it in the terminal? whatever nm-applet does? damn guis are nice, until they break.
[04:20] <palbuddy> okay I have done that already
[04:20] <omegacenti> slvmchn: And for some reason my sda4 is not telling me about the space I just free space I just freed up on it...
[04:20] <sgentry6> palbuddy: echo "/dev/hdb1 /media/windows-stuff ntfs defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab
[04:20] <mjunx> saved the file?
[04:20] <Joshooa> Is there a chance that it just wont work while doing liveCD, and then once I reinstall it will work? Or shouldn't it still work under Live but not save?
[04:21] <omegacenti> slvmchn: I am so confused XD
[04:21] <sgentry6> run that in a terminal
[04:21] <mjunx> sgentry6, you need root for that
[04:21] <pabst> Xenguy: for sure... Should know in a week or two, they seem to be coming in quick, i just ordered mine today
[04:21] <mjunx> or sudo tee -a
[04:21] <sgentry6> sudo -s fixes everything :)
[04:21] <omegacenti> I am not sure that linux is ready for the mainstream market.. Please don't shoot me for saying it.
[04:21] <mjunx> well, echo 'blah' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[04:21] <palbuddy> saved the file
[04:21] <palbuddy> !
[04:21] <slvmchn> omegacenti: that's why it's free ;-)
[04:21] <slvmchn> lol
[04:21] <Xenguy> pabst: I'll be buying something soon I expect
[04:21] <omegacenti> slvmchn: Hah. :)
[04:21] <mjunx> omegacenti, I help people via the command line because I'm familiar with it lol
[04:21] <jake_> guys where can i download a login themes for ubuntu?
[04:21] <robb> rhys: my problem is lack of drives of equal capacity for my transfer
[04:21] <mjunx> jake_, look for "gdm themes"
[04:21] <mjunx> er, search
[04:22] <Joshooa> The Mainstream market isn't really computer knowledgable though, they understand point and click, so I agree
[04:22] <mjunx> or gnome-look.org
[04:22] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, now run "cat /etc/fstab" and !paste it again so we/I can check it really fast
[04:22] <omegacenti> mjunx: Then someone willing to help walk me through the use of DD which is supposed to do DVD backups?
[04:22] <palbuddy> okay one sec
[04:22] <robb> hm possible solution presented itself (3rd pc i can put hdd in and copy back across network)
[04:22] <mjunx> oh, do you want like an ISO backup, omegacenti?
[04:22] <mjunx> or just the files?
[04:22] <Xenguy> omegacenti: use 'k9copy'
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> jake_, apt-cache search themes
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> the applet is there
[04:22] <rhys> ah. if your using ubuntu, most of you are a tick above mainstream.
[04:22] <mjunx> jake_, you can go to http://gnome-look.org/ I think
[04:22] <omegacenti> mjunx: No.. straight to many DVD's with something akin to , "Insert next disc and press enter" for an entire partition.
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> oh yeah....
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> we are
[04:22] <omegacenti> !k9copy
[04:22] <ubotu> A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy; for Dapper it's available in Universe, and for Breezy it's available at this repository: deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[04:23] <robb> think i'll have to schedule a day off to tackle this, maybe monday :)
[04:23] <mjunx> oh, omegacenti, some good programs include dar (command line, lets you split the files), keep (backup program for kde)
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> what is dvdshrink anyway?
[04:23] <robb> btw, ubuntu rocks, such a good distro (and linux in general has come so far in the last few years, it's astounding)
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> kdar is good too omegacenti
[04:23] <mjunx> it's a dvd copying program Shadowpillar
[04:23] <omegacenti> mjunx: Do either of those do automated DVD backup?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> the gui front-end
[04:23] <Xenguy> Shadowpillar: d0ze version of k9copy ;-)
[04:23] <omegacenti> !kdar
[04:23] <ubotu> kdar: archive data to disc. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1268 kB, installed size 2212 kB
[04:23] <xexos> i did grep 'EE' /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and now i can just move around the screen with _ i think its broken
[04:23] <xexos> n
[04:23] <jake_> thanx
[04:23] <mjunx> omegacenti, it's hard to automate dvd backups without someone being there to swap the dvds lol
[04:23] <omegacenti> Okay, kdar sounds good.
[04:23] <mjunx> they don't work like tape drives
[04:23] <cafuego_> rhys: it may depend on the wifi chip too... my broadcom currently doesn't work
[04:23] <palbuddy> okay I'm sorry what's the url of that pasting thingy?
[04:24] <mjunx> pastebin.ca palbuddy
[04:24] <sgentry6> Shadow_mil: dvdshrink is a windows program that let's you srhink a dual layer dvd down to a single layer disc.  It also decrypts the dvd
[04:24] <palbuddy> or command wahtever
[04:24] <omegacenti> mjunx: LOL, drr.. but I am here to do it.
[04:24] <jimmygoon> !paste | palbuddy
[04:24] <ubotu> palbuddy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> hey can anyone help me solve why my cpu is getting 100% utilized when idle in breezy?
[04:24] <omegacenti> mjunx: So do any of  those allow me to swap out many dvds?
[04:24] <mjunx> maybe you have beagle, Shadowpillar?
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> gnome-screensaver is using 100% cpu when idle
[04:24] <rhys> cafuego_ bcm43xx ?
[04:24] <mjunx> omegacenti, you should check out keep
[04:24] <cafuego_> rhys: yah
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> and it's on blank
[04:24] <jimmygoon> ... "in Breezy"...
[04:24] <Shadow_mil> sgentry6: ok great
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> ...
[04:24] <Xenguy> omegacenti: umm, why would you need to do that actually?
[04:24] <omegacenti> mjunx: Okay
[04:24] <omegacenti> !keep
[04:24] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 189 kB, installed size 836 kB
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> not breezy
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> dapper
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> my bad
[04:24] <rhys> cafuego_. it works like a charm, has for about 6 months
[04:25] <jimmygoon> ok ;)
[04:25] <amonkey> is there some way to keep update manager from asking for a password?
[04:25] <cafuego_> rhys: mine stopped working a month or so ago
[04:25] <cafuego_> rhys: not tried it since
[04:25] <Xenguy> amonkey: it needs root privileges
[04:25] <mjunx> amonkey, don't think so
[04:25] <tehquickness> amonkey: you wouldnt want to do that
[04:25] <omegacenti> Xenguy: The purpose is people are telling me it is unsafe to resize my ntfs partition, even though I have done it one the Ubuntu 6.10 CD with qtparted.
[04:25] <mjunx> security issue really
[04:25] <eauxnguye1> dabaR - rem'd the us from my sources.list and still getting the same thing. Here's my current sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9368/
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: it doesi t until I move my mouse
[04:25] <mjunx> UNLESS you make a suid script to run it lol
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> does it
[04:25] <rhys> cafuego_ software problem?
[04:25] <sgentry6> mjunx: don't be giving anyone any ideas, aka me
[04:26] <amonkey> Xenguy, i was hoping there was some equivlent to editing the sudoers so it could run root-ily without password
[04:26] <amonkey> mjunx, thanks anyway
[04:26] <Xenguy> omegacenti: I've lost the thread; ignore me
[04:26] <mjunx> Shadowpillar, what program is eating up the cpu?
[04:26] <mjunx> amonkey, you need to look into pam for that
[04:26] <cafuego_> dunno, probably. feisty and wifi aren't very happy afaik, but then again, the wifi card is a bit bendy, so it might be hardware.
[04:26] <palbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9369/
[04:26] <amonkey> tehquickness, my lappy locks itself quite quickly, it doesn't autoinstall, why wouldn't i?
[04:26] <Xenguy> amonkey: meh, it is the ubuntu way
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: I think it's gnome-screensaver, I cant be sure
[04:26] <cafuego_> amonkey: pam has a NOPASSWD option
[04:26] <mjunx> well, press Ctrl-Esc to see the process list
[04:26] <sgentry6> Shadowpillar: go to a console window and time top
[04:26] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: I meant more like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9370/
[04:27] <sgentry6> whoops type top
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: as it stops after I move the mouse and enter my password
[04:27] <eauxnguye1> thanks will try that
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: or sometimes when I'm idling I start seeing my cpu getting utilized by 50%
[04:27] <mjunx> Shadowpillar, then change or disable the screensaver lol
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: it's blank
[04:27] <palbuddy> did you get the url jimmygoon?
[04:27] <mjunx> or you could ssh into your computer and run top to monitor it
[04:28] <Shadowpillar> mjunx: could it be beagle?
[04:28] <omegacenti> mjunx: It does not seem that keep allows me to backup to DVD.
[04:28] <jimmygoon> palbuddy: yes.... is that ALL inside that file? even lines 11-14 because they shouldn't be in there
[04:28] <mjunx> well, beagle runs at niceness 19, so it wouldn't matter if it went to 100% cpu
[04:28] <palbuddy> lol 11-14 shouldn't be there
[04:28] <normmac> i've been getting the following error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[04:29] <jimmygoon> palbuddy - so they aren't relaly in that file?
[04:29] <omegacenti> nomasteryoda: kdar seems to be broken in the repository as one of its dependencies cannot be installed.
[04:29] <mjunx> okay, omegacenti, get ready for several programs to look into
[04:29] <normmac> and i really can't figure this out
[04:29] <omegacenti> mjunx: A nice list if you would please lol.
[04:29] <palbuddy> well that is my failed attempt to try to access paste inside terminal
[04:29] <satori101> can anyone help me with a wifi problem? just installed edgy on a laptop with a 3945ABG and i'm dropping packets like crazy.
[04:29] <mjunx> backup-manager, backupninja, cdrw-taper
[04:29] <jimmygoon> palbuddy, in that case it looks great - now when you reboot it will be mounted, hopefully you will get an icon on your desktop, but if not then just open up the file browser and navigate to /media/windows-stuff!!
[04:29] <tritoch> is /interfaces the be-all-end-all of network configuration in xubuntu
[04:29] <mjunx> !ask | satori101
[04:29] <ubotu> satori101: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:30] <palbuddy> okay jimmy though I still get an access denied when I try now, that's normal?
[04:30] <mjunx> palbuddy, now run "sudo mount -a" to mount everything
[04:30] <OMGLAZERS> Does anyone know any file systems that both Linux and Windows can read and write normally w/o plugins?
[04:30] <tritoch> or is it possible that no matter what i change in /interfaces there's something else overriding it?
[04:30] <mjunx> oh, you've got permission errors now? crap, hold on
[04:30] <OMGLAZERS> Aside from FATs perhaps
[04:30] <mjunx> OMGLAZERS, just vfat
[04:30] <xyz-abc> Can someone tell me how I can erase a CD-RW?
[04:30] <mjunx> since windows supports like no filesystem formats
[04:31] <eauxnguye1> hey nice dabaR apt-get update is actually pulling new stuff.
[04:31] <mjunx> xyz-abc, using udftools
[04:31] <mjunx> !udftools | xyz-abc
[04:31] <ubotu> xyz-abc: udftools: tools for UDF filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0b3-11 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:31] <xyz-abc> are they in Edgy by default?
[04:31] <mjunx> nope
[04:31] <mjunx> in universe
[04:31] <xyz-abc> damn
[04:31] <mjunx> oh, you can use k3b I'd assume
[04:31] <normmac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9373/
[04:31] <mjunx> which is in kubuntu
[04:31] <normmac> can anyone help with this error
[04:31] <xyz-abc> it is?
[04:31] <satori101> !ask why is my laptop with 3945ABG wifi chip dropping packets with edgy eft?
[04:31] <xyz-abc> how to i find k3b?
[04:31] <mjunx> no, just ask us satori101 lol
[04:31] <mjunx> xyz-abc, in synaptic
[04:31] <tritoch> he just did
[04:31] <satori101> that's the question. :)
[04:31] <xyz-abc> ok thanks
[04:32] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: great, I sometimes see issues with us.
[04:32] <omegacenti> !backup-manager
[04:32] <ubotu> backup-manager: command-line backup tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-2 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 436 kB
[04:32] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: prepend a message for me with my nick, please, let me know whether it is fixed.
[04:32] <palbuddy> okay well I do have to work tommorrow....thank you for your help, I will not give up I might have to annoy you guys later
[04:32] <sgentry6> mjunx: is there a way in the graphical installer to choose which packages to install (from the live disc), my graphics card isn't supported by the livedvd in console
[04:32] <palbuddy> thank you again!
[04:32] <dabaR> eauxnguye1: actually, gtg
[04:32] <palbuddy> rather be this frustrated then go to vista :)
[04:32] <mjunx> sgentry6, what do you mean?
[04:33] <eauxnguye1> dabaR Yes that worked. Thanks so much. I was pulling my hair out on this
[04:33] <mjunx> sgentry6, what graphics card?
[04:33] <omegacenti> mjunx: Backup-manager is EXACTLY what I have been looking for.
[04:33] <sgentry6> mjunx: there are alot of packages that come on the edgy dvd that I'm sure I would like to use without downloading
[04:33] <mjunx> alright, good, have fun!
[04:33] <sgentry6> mjunx: its an ati ixp card (eww shuttle box), I know
[04:34] <mjunx> sgentry6, I'm pretty sure everything but ubiquity installs from the dvd when you install
[04:34] <mjunx> i.e very sure
[04:34] <mjunx> well, I'm not experience with ati cards, but what is it you need? the non-free driver?
[04:35] <sgentry6> mjunx: no, Im not worried about the driver (yet), but things like csh and such were not installed in the base system
[04:35] <mjunx> so you install them afterwards?
[04:35] <sgentry6> mjunx: yes, but I would think there would be a way to kind of select which packages you want to install
[04:36] <mjunx> !slipstream
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slipstream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <omegacenti> And this is where I say screw it... I am going to take the risk and defrag my windows partition and then use qtparted which says its safe to use on ntfs.
[04:36] <mjunx> oh crap, wrong term
[04:36] <omegacenti> !qtparted
[04:36] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[04:36] <mjunx> omegacenti, you don't need to defrag
[04:36] <sgentry6> mjunx: this is my first time playing with ubuntu, I game from the gentoo world
[04:36] <sgentry6> came that is
[04:36] <satori101> how can i tell if i have the latest driver for my integrated wifi in my laptop?
[04:36] <mjunx> well, there's a way to make your own install cd/dvd
[04:36] <omegacenti> mjunx: then the heck with it, I am going to just going to use it.
[04:36] <mjunx> okay, have fun
[04:36] <omegacenti> mjunx: is gparted exactly like qtparted?
[04:37] <mjunx> no, it's stabler
[04:37] <omegacenti> mjunx: And how do you unmount a hardrive?
[04:37] <GameJerk> I have an FTP question.  Trying to FTP some files off a hard drive connected via USB.  Am trying to use gFTP 2.0.18 to transfer the files over.  I cannot howerver access the USB HDD partition from inside the program.  it is only showing my root filesystem (using the live distro btw) am a bit of a linux newb so not sure how to move to the USB HDD partition.
[04:37] <mjunx> umount /wherever/its/mounted/at
[04:37] <omegacenti> mjunx: Thanks :)
[04:37] <gesus> hey there when i try to download torrent files BitTorrent (program) always wants to open them, but I want Azureus to do it.  how can i change that?
[04:37] <mjunx> GameJerk, are you sure you're in root in the file manager?
[04:38] <mjunx> gesus, update-alternatives
[04:38] <mjunx> I think
[04:38] <mjunx> sgentry6, well check out knoppmyth
[04:38] <GameJerk> mjunx: i think so yes
[04:38] <oritemis> Hello guys.
[04:38] <gesus> mjunx where can i do that?
[04:39] <mjunx> well, that would be from the console, but I think there's an easier way to do it
[04:39] <sgentry6> mjunx: I tried it once before, my ide chipset wasn't supported, but it was based off of dapper I believe
[04:39] <mjunx> are you talking about firefox opening torrents? or gnome in general? or kde?
[04:39] <mjunx> hmm, I thought knoppix  was based on debian sid
[04:39] <gesus> mjunx, i think gnome in general?
[04:39] <GameJerk> mjunx: it says root. has the folders sys, proc, serv etc
[04:40] <mjunx> GameJerk, look in the media folder then
[04:40] <oritemis> Ppl, did you saw already a kind of xterm that is almost transparent, except for the white fonts, by this way fiting to the desktop?
[04:40] <mjunx> oritemis, like half of them?
[04:40] <GameJerk> mjunx: score!
[04:40] <mjunx> or any of them with beryl :D
[04:40] <GameJerk> mjunx: thanks man.  why is it set up like that? very odd
[04:40] <mjunx> alright, that's like 5 solved problems so far, and like 20 more on the table, damn ;p
[04:40] <oritemis> mjunx: I saw a very good effect, its backgroun and windows is transparent.
[04:40] <mjunx> GameJerk, the gnome file open dialogue sucks, everyone knows that
[04:40] <omegacenti> mjunx: For some reason the resize part on sda1 (my ntfs partition for my windows) is greyed out, any suggestions?
[04:40] <mase> my gnome theme crashed and now it wont let me change it
[04:41] <rpc> what would be the easiest method of cutting a traffic on a given interface? so i can cap it to say 5mbit up/down per ip or eth device
[04:41] <oritemis> are*
[04:41] <mjunx> oritemis, check out konsole and yakuake, I know they can do transparency
[04:41] <oritemis> mjunx: but font is white.
[04:41] <mjunx> and can change the font colours
[04:41] <oritemis> ok, I will.
[04:41] <satori101> how can i tell if i have the latest driver for my integrated wifi in my laptop?
[04:41] <UCNPro_CP> hi...
[04:41] <oritemis> mjunx: thankyou.
[04:41] <GameJerk> mjunx im a linux tard.. don't even know what that is
[04:41] <mjunx> omegacenti, nah, I don't know what to do there
[04:41] <killermach__> what kernel does ubuntu 6.10 come with?
[04:41] <OMGLAZERS> MAGIC.
[04:41] <OMGLAZERS> Woosh!
[04:41] <GameJerk> ubunjut is nice tho.  gonna throw it on a diff partition so i can play around with it
[04:41] <mjunx> GameJerk, it's the dialogue box you get when you want to open a file
[04:42] <mase> I tried to install a gnome theme, it crashed, now the theme selector wont let me change anything, it just freezes, HELP!!!??
[04:42] <mjunx> and the one in gnome sucks
[04:42] <rbil> oritemis: u can set the terminal to be transparent in Gnome
[04:42] <gesus> mjunx, i think i want to change .torrent association in gnome?
[04:42] <satori101> 6.10 kernel = 2.16.17-10 i think?
[04:42] <UCNPro_CP> in need of serious support, for a recent microsoft junkie, who wished to redeem himself, but crashed as soon as he took off...
[04:42] <mjunx> man, I'm not sure on how to do that, gesus, I'm a kde guy :>
[04:42] <oritemis> rbil: can be done but the fonts?
[04:42] <mjunx> satori101, -11 is latest
[04:43] <GameJerk> well thank you sir
[04:43] <GameJerk> IRC saves me yet again
[04:43] <mjunx> GameJerk, I'd recommend checking out kubuntu as well
[04:43] <satori101> ah. just checked to see what i had installed.
[04:43] <gesus> is kde better than gnome?
[04:43] <GameJerk> mjunx: you deserve a  cookie
[04:43] <rbil> oritemis: u want the fonts transparent too? how would you read anything?
[04:43] <satori101> but i haven't updated because i can't connect to the net. :/
[04:43] <mjunx> in my opinion, yes, but that question starts flamewars, beware ;)
[04:43] <mase> I tried to install a gnome theme, it crashed, now the theme selector wont let me change anything, it just freezes, HELP!!!??
[04:43] <GameJerk> mjunx: whats the diff between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[04:43] <mjunx> kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome
[04:44] <mjunx> so, the default programs basically
[04:44] <mjunx> and theme
[04:44] <GameJerk> i installed xubuntu on an old machine w/ only 128 ram.  worked ok
[04:44] <gesus> which is prettier?
[04:44] <mjunx> and xubuntu uses xfce
[04:44] <Izanbardprince> I much prefer Ubuntu
[04:44] <witless> hello.  i'm trying to get a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 card to work.  if i do this:   mplayer /dev/video0   ...then mplayer actually plays television.  but i can't get any tv player applications to work - they find no input
[04:44] <mjunx> gesus, totally depends on what you think is pretty
[04:44] <gesus> i think clouds are pretty
[04:44] <gesus> :)
[04:44] <normmac> can anyone help me with this error pleae? perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[04:44] <satori101> beryl is prettiest.:)
[04:44] <mjunx> gesus, check both kde-look.org and gnome-look.org for screenshots
[04:44] <mjunx> beryl works on both desktops, so that's pretty
[04:44] <gesus> mjunx, ty
[04:44] <mjunx> normmac, I know that problem!! I can help
[04:45] <mjunx> run sudo locale-gen
[04:45] <killermach__> gesus: I see it as do you want fast or options? if you want fast, us xfe (?) or something VERY light, if you want options, use KDE. I like kde and feel somewhat crippled in gnome
[04:45] <Izanbardprince> KDE seems quite a bit slower on Kubuntu than on most other distros that use it
[04:45] <GameJerk> mjunx: thanks again man.  You deserve a cookie!
[04:45] <mase> i find gnome faster than kde..
[04:45] <mjunx> thanks I guess ;)
[04:45] <mjunx> gnome is faster because it has a lot less features lol
[04:45] <mase> exactly
[04:46] <normmac> thanks mjunx i'll try it
[04:46] <mase> which why its better
[04:46] <rbil> mjunx: don't u find kde to be much buggier than gnome? that has been my experience.
[04:46] <oritemis> rbil, no, I want the fonts in full color.
[04:46] <gesus> what's more popular, gnome or kde (or xfce)?
[04:46] <mjunx> I don't like suse, though, it's supposed to have good kde support, but by "good kde support" they mean "a version of kde that looks almost but not entirely quite unlike windows"
[04:46] <mjunx> rbil, not really
[04:46] <mjunx> gesus, probably kde since it's older
[04:46] <satori101> how can i tell what driver i'm using for my wifi connection?
[04:47] <mjunx> but gnome has more distros behind it
[04:47] <Izanbardprince> my dad and I were talking about that OpenSuse, he's been using it for a while, but wanted on something else when MS made the deal with Novell
[04:47] <mjunx> so who knows
[04:47] <Izanbardprince> I went over there and set up Ubuntu for him
[04:47] <sgentry6> satori101: sudo lshw -C network
[04:47] <normmac> mjunx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9375/
[04:47] <mjunx> but kde 4 will have a mac and windows port, so I think I know which desktop will be most popular come this fall ;)
[04:47] <gesus> mjunx, and is kubuntu the best way to experience kde or are there better o/s for it?
[04:47] <satori101> ty sgentry6
[04:47] <sgentry6> satori101: it should show which driver the card is using (if it has one loaded)
[04:47] <omegacenti> My brain feels like spammed cooked in a pan in the original container... is that bad? And how does this relate to Ubuntu... O_o
[04:47] <Izanbardprince> KDE 4 won't run on Windows natively
[04:47] <mjunx> gesus, I don't know really, but you could try using suse
[04:47] <omegacenti> spam*
[04:47] <mjunx> Izanbardprince, yes it will
[04:47] <Izanbardprince> you'd need to run it on top of Cygwin or something right?
[04:48] <mjunx> because Qt4 gpl is windows native
[04:48] <mjunx> nope, trolltech to the rescue
[04:48] <normmac> will someone check this out? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9375/
[04:48] <normmac> mjunx that didnt' work btw
[04:48] <mjunx> normmac, locale-gen didn't work?
[04:48] <normmac> nope
[04:48] <Izanbardprince> I was going to say, I don't know how useful it would be if you had to run it on Cygwin
[04:48] <^DeL3e7^> http://i17.tinypic.com/2ds3dqs.png
[04:48] <mjunx> okay, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[04:48] <Izanbardprince> that would add more overhead than it's worth
[04:49] <killermach__> anyone running 6.10? what kernel do you have?
[04:49] <normmac> same error
[04:49] <mjunx> Izanbardprince, well, this time around, most of kde is being ported to mac and windows (just no kicker, kwin, etc. that's useless for them)
[04:49] <Izanbardprince> I'm running the one that Ubuntu comes with
[04:49] <satori101> sgentry6: ran lshw and I got info back regarding my wifi interface, but it doesn't show what driver is driving it.
[04:49] <mjunx> normmac, then I'm out of ideas :/
[04:49] <Izanbardprince> I would compile a new one
[04:49] <sgentry6> ubotuunam: 2.6.17-10
[04:49] <normmac> damn i dont understand whats wrong
[04:49] <^DeL3e7^> 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:49] <Izanbardprince> but I don't want to bust the upgradability by accident
[04:49] <^DeL3e7^>   /exec -o uname -r
[04:50] <^DeL3e7^> heh
[04:50] <Izanbardprince> when Feisty will be out next month anyway
[04:50] <sgentry6> satori101: my wireless shows the same
[04:50] <sgentry6> satori101: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[04:50] <mjunx> Sysinfo for 'vaio': Linux 2.6.20-9-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz at 1600 MHz (1888 bogomips), HD: 60/72GB, RAM: 738/748MB, 154 proc's, 9.4d up
[04:50] <normmac> can anyone else please try to check out my error i'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9375/
[04:50] <mjunx> hmm, konversation has a more useful script
[04:50] <jake_> guys can i do a cube desktop on beryl on my savage s3?
[04:50] <GameJerk> i also have a corrupted partition.  There any good programs in linux that would be able to recover some files from that partition?
[04:50] <satori101> sgentry6: 3945ABG in a toshiba m7
[04:50] <mjunx> GameJerk, fsck
[04:50] <satori101> sgentry6: it works but i'm dropping packets like crazy.
[04:50] <satori101> sgentry6: works fine when i'm booted into xp though. :/
[04:51] <GameJerk> mjunx:  i read that wrong and though u were cussing :)
[04:51] <mjunx> lol
[04:51] <sgentry6> satori101: does lspci | grep 3945 show anything?
[04:51] <mjunx> well, that's the idea behind the name
[04:51] <satori101> sgentry6: yes, it does
[04:51] <GameJerk> clever little people you linux people are
[04:51] <sgentry6> satori101: what about lsmod | grep 3945
[04:51] <rbil> normmac: maybe this will help you? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138022
[04:51] <mjunx> file system consistency checK
[04:52] <GameJerk> how do i go about getting and installing fsck... remember im using live distro cd still
[04:52] <satori101> sgentry6: looks like it's loading a kernel module called ipw3945
[04:52] <omegacenti> I'm going to go disappear for a little bit and see If I can mess with qtparted some more.
[04:52] <normmac> tryed that rbil
[04:52] <GameJerk> and i have no idea how to install stuff.  been using the add/remove thing until now
[04:52] <mjunx> GameJerk, it's installed by default
[04:52] <mjunx> kinda an important tool, so it's included
[04:52] <GameJerk> well thats fonvenient
[04:52] <GameJerk> *convenient even
[04:52] <normmac> should i reinstall ubuntu did i mess soemthing up?
[04:53] <mjunx> normmac, that might work best sadly
[04:53] <satori101> sgentry6: the wifi "works" but i'm dropping 60-80% packets. and that's just pinging my router.
[04:53] <colbert> I keep getting this when I try to move/copy a file (like mp3 or .jpg) from Ubuntu over to my mounted sata drive: "Error "I/O error" while moving "/home/bobb...p/cube.jpg" dialog warning box.. what is wrong ?
[04:53] <sgentry6> satori101: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipw3945/ that might give ya a bit more info about it
[04:53] <mjunx> GameJerk, fsck is to linux as chkdsk is to windows (except fsck is a bit more advanced and useful)
[04:53] <Izanbardprince> bah, thats why I don't use Ubuntu on my laptop
[04:53] <GameJerk> mjunx: i'm not seeing it... i know im retarted where is it located?
[04:53] <Izanbardprince> the ndiswrapper wrapped drivers for my wireless are terrible
[04:54] <mjunx> GameJerk, sorry, it's a command-line program
[04:54] <normmac> my problem witht that is that i had a terrible time getting my wireless working and i dont want to do that again
[04:54] <Izanbardprince> if you fart wrong, they stop working
[04:54] <satori101> sgentry6: ty. checking it out now.
[04:54] <mjunx> GameJerk, so, open up the root terminal (or just terminal)
[04:54] <normmac> and i dont remember how i did it because i had help
[04:55] <sgentry6> satori101: I'm in the same boat, my card is supported out of box, but I can't hit my ap with them
[04:55] <normmac> how can i reinstall my locale files
[04:55] <mjunx> GameJerk, what filesystem is the partition you want to fix?
[04:55] <mjunx> normmac, apt-get --reinstall install locales
[04:55] <sgentry6> satori101: and each ndiswrapper driver I have tried doesn't seem to want to work either :(
[04:55] <] apoc[> hi, how could i run bluefish as another user from a terminal? when i execute "bluefish&" they say: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server"
[04:55] <Shadow_mil>  does anyone have End of Evangelion movie in English or with english subtitles?
[04:55] <GameJerk> mjunx: ntfs
[04:55] <mjunx> with a sudo in there somewhere
[04:55] <mjunx> oh, you might need to use windows' chkdsk for that
[04:55] <sgentry6> ] apoc[: try xhost +ip of box that is remoting
[04:55] <satori101> sgentry6: my chipset is supposedly supported out-of-box too. but not for me for whatever reason.
[04:55] <carson> is there a way to force an app to launch of a specific workspace?
[04:55] <rbil> normmac: maybe you can get help in perl channel? /join #perl
[04:56] <normmac> i'll try there too
[04:56] <mjunx> rbil, locales is a package that's written in perl
[04:56] <sgentry6> satori101: same for me with a realtex 8187 driver
[04:56] <mjunx> I don't think they'll be helpful
[04:56] <GameJerk> mjunx ok no problem
[04:56] <naknomik> I installed 'kubuntu-desktop' and then tried running 'sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop' and it just removed one package, I was thinking it would remove all gnome related packages that are not required.
[04:56] <satori101> sgentry6: works great on my other laptop with an ancient 802.11b pcmia card from linksys though.
[04:56] <mjunx> but debian had a similar issue, so you can ask at #debian on irc.oftc.net (don't mention you're using ubuntu or they'll kill you ;p)
[04:56] <satori101> sgentry6: go figure. :/
[04:56] <] apoc[> sgentry6: mhh its not remote its just another user than the gnome acctually logged in
[04:56] <mjunx> naknomik, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:57] <sgentry6> satori101: I wish I could throw in a pci card, but the darn box I'm using only has 1 pci slot, which is holding my tv tuner card
[04:57] <atlantia> could use some help if someone has a second.. installing edgy on a p3 intel based motherboard, and whenever i boot with any pci items installed, i get irq errors and kernel panics.. i have considered downgrading the kernel, although without compiling i am unsure of a proper way of doing this... any other suggestions on how i can get this to work?
[04:57] <GameJerk> another quick question.  is there a way to enable write access using the live distro?  i keep getting an error
[04:57] <sgentry6> ] apoc[: sorry, I'm not familiar with gnome or that program
[04:58] <sgentry6> write acces on what GameJerk?
[04:58] <GameJerk> a hdd attatched via USB
[04:58] <satori101> sgentry6: don't even have that option, as this is a latop.
[04:58] <sgentry6> is it mounted up?
[04:58] <GameJerk> ya
[04:58] <satori101> sgentry6: toshiba tecra m7. it's been challenging every step of the way.
[04:58] <sgentry6> run mount
[04:59] <satori101> sgentry6: had to update the X server conf just to install.
[04:59] <sgentry6> satori101: I used gentoo prior to this, I know challenging :)
[04:59] <naknomik> I installed 'kubuntu-desktop' but I still don't see a KDE session from gdm, what am I missing?
[04:59] <satori101> sgentry6: ha. i bet. i tried gentoo about a year ago and could never get it running a tecra 8200.
[04:59] <sgentry6> satori101: portage can be an absolute mess at times
[05:00] <mjunx> naknomik, restart gdm perhaps?
[05:00] <rbil> naknomik: maybe a reboot?
[05:00] <dc_> good evening
[05:00] <Shadow_mil> sorry everyone about that last message, I didn't know what the /wallchan command does... sorry
[05:00] <mjunx> what message?
[05:00] <naknomik> mjunx: restarting gdm didn't help.
[05:00] <codecaine> anybody get the problem with gnome when the menus freeze sometimes and you have to reboot
[05:00] <mjunx> naknomik, then install kdm
[05:01] <GameJerk> sgentry6: how do i run mount? (sorry first time w/linux today.  having fun but confused)
[05:01] <mjunx> GameJerk, if you're in terminal, you can just type mount
[05:01] <codecaine> GameJerk sudo mount /dev/somedevice /foldertomount
[05:01] <sgentry6> GameJerk: go to the "start menu" and find run command -- then type in "xterm"
[05:01] <codecaine> man mount
[05:01] <codecaine> tells you everything about it
[05:02] <colbert> I keep getting this when I try to move/copy a file (like mp3 or .jpg) from Ubuntu over to my mounted sata drive: "Error "I/O error" while moving "/home/bobb...p/cube.jpg" dialog warning box.. what is wrong ???
[05:02] <mjunx> IO is wrong :p
[05:02] <colbert> what do I do /
[05:02] <colbert> ?
[05:02] <omegacenti> Easy way to mount hardrives in ubuntu?
[05:03] <omegacenti> !mount
[05:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:03] <omegacenti> That didn't help.
[05:03] <mjunx> colbert, remount the drive?
[05:03] <sgentry6> GameJerk: were you able to get that?
[05:03] <omegacenti> !DiskMounter
[05:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:03] <omegacenti> !fstab
[05:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:04] <Shadow_mil> colbert: omg your like my god
[05:04] <colbert> I have used NTFS 3g program to mount it
[05:04] <colbert> Shadow: I'm not Stephen Colbert, lol
[05:05] <mjunx> TRUTHINESS
[05:05] <omegacenti> Anyone know how to use gnome also know how to mount a harddrive able to tell me hwo to do it?
[05:05] <mjunx> !mount | omegacenti
[05:05] <ubotu> omegacenti: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:05] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  i go old skool and edit the fstab file.. or use the command line. :)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  you refering to a windows partition?
[05:06] <normmac> how can i install all or missing locale files for perl?
[05:06] <mjunx> !locales
[05:06] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:06] <colbert> Well it seems I have a SATA drive (Vista) that needs to be remounted, how do I unmount it and remount it then ??
[05:06] <sgentry6> ya ya, its off topic, but i made me grin: http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_would
[05:06] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: yes.
[05:06] <normmac> thanks
[05:07] <mjunx> colbert, sudo mount -o remount /dev/hd(whatever)
[05:07] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  heh - this is such a Common question. :)  theres several bot factoids on doing it.. depends on what you want to do exactly
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:07] <omegacenti> mjunx: why is there something not as easy as mount when it was extremely easy to right click the hardive and click, unmount.
[05:07] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: : why is there something not as easy as mount when it was extremely easy to right click the hardive and click, unmount.
[05:08] <mjunx> omegacenti, there is in kde ;)
[05:08] <omegacenti> mjunx: Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  never noticed.. never worried about it.. I know enough to mount the stuff manually...
[05:08] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  if the fstab is set up right it should 'auto mount' the proper way and let the users have full access.
[05:08] <omegacenti> yet another reason why its not ready for mainstream.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> no clicking needed.
[05:08] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: It is, it does, its just I just unmounted my ntfs partition and would just like to access it again.
[05:08] <GameJerk> sgentry6: working on it.  sorry got a phone call
[05:08] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  whatever...  its a trivial thing to set up.. but it depends on WHAT exactly you want to do wth the mount point.
[05:09] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  there IS a gnome setting to show 'unmounted' partitions.
[05:09] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: Read-only the way it was.
[05:09] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: Where is that setting?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  perhaps that needs to be enabled.. but  that will show a lot of other unmounted parittions as well. so it clutters the desktop
[05:09] <mjunx> omegacenti, maybe gnome isn't, but kde is :)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  under desktop settings somewhere. IM not using gnome.
[05:09] <omegacenti> then why the heck am I using gnome!??
[05:10] <omegacenti> Whats that package again for kde?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  we dont have esp.. :)
[05:10] <mjunx> kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <mjunx> oh, you're using gnome because you're a masochist btw ;)
[05:10] <foormea> hey, i've got a question: iptables --list tells me that chain input, forward and output are to ACCEPT ; does it mean that it doesn't filter any port on my local network? nmap tells me that there are no open ports on my box?!?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  you could use 'sudo mount /media/WHATEVERTheDriveIs
[05:10] <colbert> When I did "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda1" I got this: "Remounting is not supported at present. You have to umount volume and then mount it once again." How do I unmount it in terminal ?
[05:10] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: its sda1
[05:10] <tritoch> i'm attempting to set up WAP on a linksys pcmcia card, but i think i may have my interfaces file set up incorrectly: this pastebin summarizes http://www.pastebin.ca/387185
[05:10] <GameJerk> sgentry6:: too much reading./thinking to be starting this late
[05:10] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  sudo mount /dev/sda1  perhaps..
[05:10] <mjunx> colbert, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[05:10] <omegacenti> Dr_willis: So, mount /meda/sda1?
[05:11] <mjunx> then mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[05:11] <GameJerk> sgentry6: thank you for your help tho.  will come back later though.  Have a good night
[05:11] <mjunx> or pmount perhaps
[05:11] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  it may or MAY not get mounted to /media/sda1 it may have some other name.. look in /media, or your fstab file.
[05:11] <omegacenti> mjunx: is that readonly?
[05:11] <sgentry6> GameJerk: np
[05:11] <colbert> mjunx: Ok it is gone, it unmounted
[05:11] <mjunx> omegacenti, what?
[05:11] <MidgetKiller> hello everyone
[05:11] <omegacenti> bah, Im just going to reboot.... it will show up then.
[05:11] <colbert> mjunx: Sorry mount or pmount ?
[05:11] <sgentry6> omegacenti
[05:11] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,  egads..
[05:12] <sgentry6> omegacenti: try: mount -a in the console
[05:12] <wes_1977> can anyone point me to a step by step resource on troubleshooting a wireless networking problem? I'm using xubuntu 7.04 on a toshiba satellite p25-s507 laptop with Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5211 802.11ab NIC (rev 01) wireless card
[05:12] <mjunx> colbert, try pmount /dev/sda1
[05:12] <Dr_willis> sgentry6,  oh yea. :) that will work.
[05:12] <mjunx> !wireless
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <sgentry6> Dr_willis: it's always the easy solutions I forget :)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> sgentry6,  i never want the mount things on the desktop anyway. :) so i never unmount them
[05:12] <Dr_willis> sgentry6,  of course I dont have many ntfs partitions either.
[05:13] <colbert> mjunx: I got this  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9376/
[05:13] <sgentry6> Dr_willis: like the other day I kept trying to umount the dvd drive at work, pulled an admin and asked them to do it and he said did you try to eject it
[05:13] <wes_1977> !wireless
[05:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:13] <mjunx> okay, colbert, nothing to worry about
[05:13] <Dr_willis> sgentry6,  heh.. the automounting stuff i find cause more problems then it fix's - just so users  dont have to learn how the system works. :)
[05:14] <sgentry6> Dr_willis: of course some jerk had it open in a window, not accessing it so I couldn't eject it
[05:14] <^DeL3e7^> this looks better http://i19.tinypic.com/2chwc9h.png
[05:14] <tritoch> anyone knowledgeable on WAP and able to deciper this http://www.pastebin.ca/387185
[05:14] <colbert> mjunx: I got the same I/O error now after remounting  when trying to move files :(
[05:14] <colbert> Should I reboot and then remount ?
[05:14] <sgentry6> Dr_willis: amen, course this was solaris, so someone mounted it by hand, there was no automount setup on that guy
[05:14] <usurp> what is the best linux that can run under windows?
[05:14] <^DeL3e7^> should be the other way around usurp heh
[05:14] <^DeL3e7^> hey i kno that handle!
[05:15] <Dr_willis> usurp,  why the odd limitation?  with vmware you can run most any disrto under windows.
[05:15] <mjunx> colbert, maybe you need to fsck that partition
[05:15] <^DeL3e7^> usurp,
[05:15] <usurp> ya
[05:15] <sgentry6> usurp: try vmware server, you can set up a nice little virtualized environment
[05:15] <colbert> Ok
[05:15] <colbert> What will that do ?
[05:15] <yipe> will ubuntu edgy respond correctly to the new, altered dates for daylight savings?
[05:15] <mjunx> fix the filesystem
[05:15] <sgentry6> usurp: it's also free from the bmware site
[05:15] <usurp> i can run them both simultainiously?
[05:15] <mjunx> yipe, yes
[05:15] <^DeL3e7^> did you see my cool pic i posted?
[05:15] <^DeL3e7^> userund,
[05:15] <colbert> mjunx: Ok I will
[05:15] <^DeL3e7^> i mean usurp
[05:15] <yipe> in the US I mean, I'm sure the rest of the world will leave the timestream un-messed-with
[05:15] <Dr_willis> with vmware ya could run a dozen linux disrtos at th same time. :)
[05:15] <sgentry6> usurp: you can run as many other oses as you want, provided you have the memory
[05:16] <yipe> mjunx, that's good news :)
[05:16] <rhetorikalanswer> hello.
[05:16] <mjunx> pretty  much everything but windows and java had this problem fixed over a year ago
[05:16] <usurp> cause i have ubuntu on another partition but i want to use both of them togather
[05:16] <colbert> mjunx: lol how do I use fsck to scan my mounted /dev/sda1 ?
[05:16] <mjunx> colbert, you gotta umount it first
[05:16] <colbert> ok
[05:17] <colbert> ok now ?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> usurp,  doing it THAT way may be a bit harder.
[05:17] <mjunx> sudo fsck -a /dev/sda1
[05:17] <mjunx> or whatever it was
[05:17] <Dr_willis> usurp,  but doable with vmware or qemu i hear.. then theres that new 'VirtualBox' tool also.
[05:17] <yipe> colbert report rules, and the daily show was the program that made me think to check on my own system's clock (since my computer is also my alarm clock)
[05:17] <sgentry6> usurp: there are ways to turn physical drives into the hard drive in vmware
[05:17] <^DeL3e7^> yeah
[05:18] <^DeL3e7^> i was talkin to yipe but im sure thats possible too
[05:18] <mase> how can i uninstall gnome and reinstall it again
[05:18] <colbert> mjunx: fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)| fsck: fsck.ntfs-3g: not found | fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs-3g for /dev/sda1
[05:18] <^DeL3e7^> apt-get remove
[05:18] <Dr_willis> mase,  why do you THINK you need to uninstall it?
[05:18] <preaction> mase: why would you need to do that?
[05:18] <^DeL3e7^> yeah just update it?
[05:18] <mase> because my theme selector wotn work
[05:18] <mase> it freezes
[05:18] <mjunx> colbert, you might need to boot with a windows cd and use its system recovery dealy to run chkdsk
[05:19] <preaction> mase: when did it start doing that?
[05:19] <mase> i tried to install a theme and on startup it gives me errors
[05:19] <Dr_willis> mase,  try making a new user, and see if the same problem happens with the new user.
[05:19] <mase> and says my settings daemon wont work
[05:19] <usurp> hello...
[05:19] <Dr_willis> mase,  you coudl always reset the users gnome settings.
[05:19] <cables> compatibility issues notwithstanding, can anyone explain to me what the advantages of 64-bit computing are?
[05:19] <colbert> mjunx: Ok
[05:19] <usurp> which one should i get to run two OS's at once?
[05:19] <usurp> Begin enjoying the benefits of virtualization
[05:19] <usurp>    1. Download VMware Converter and convert your physical machines to virtual machines in minutes.
[05:19] <usurp>    2. Download VMware Server and host your new virtual machines.
[05:19] <usurp>    3. Add centralized management with VMware VirtualCenter for VMware Server.
[05:19] <mase> how do i do that?
[05:19] <mjunx> cables, more registers
[05:19] <Dr_willis> usurp,  get the vmware server
[05:19] <mjunx> and more ops
[05:19] <atlantia> could use some help if someone has a second.. installing edgy on a p3 intel based motherboard, and whenever i boot with any pci items installed, i get irq errors and kernel panics.. i have considered downgrading the kernel, although without compiling i am unsure of a proper way of doing this... any other suggestions on how i can get this to work?
[05:19] <^DeL3e7^> have u seen this cool link i found one day? http://www.oszoo.org/
[05:19] <mjunx> and supports more than 4 GB of memory
[05:20] <cables> mjunx, does that translate to a direct speed improvement, or just a memory capacity improvement?
[05:20] <^DeL3e7^> torrents of virtual machine images of popular free OS's
[05:20] <mjunx> speed improvement for optimised packages, yes
[05:20] <^DeL3e7^> its sooo cool
[05:20] <mjunx> but it's very technical...
[05:20] <mjunx> basically, there's less need to constantly abuse the stack for function calls
[05:21] <mjunx> since you can just use some registers to point to (or contain) the values
[05:21] <mjunx> instead of pushing the parameters on the stack
[05:21] <wes_1977> is there anyone that can help pinpoint a wireless networking problem? Everything I'm looking for in terms of making sure the drivers are installed, the device is recognized, etc. seems ok, yet I'm still unable to get my wireless card connected to the network
[05:21] <mase> how do i reset user settings?
[05:21] <^DeL3e7^> hmm ~user/.gnome
[05:21] <cables> mjunx, thanks
[05:21] <cables> mase, what user settings?
[05:21] <^DeL3e7^> or whatever the app is
[05:22] <^DeL3e7^> everything saves there user specified configs in .whatever
[05:22] <mase> gnome settings
[05:22] <cables> wes_1977, is it not detecting the networks, or is it not connecting to them when you type the name?
[05:22] <mjunx> rm -r ~/.gnome
[05:22] <Dr_willis> .gnome* dirs
[05:22] <mjunx> and gnome2 I think
[05:22] <^DeL3e7^> yea
[05:22] <mjunx> and .gconf IIRC
[05:22] <usurp> vm server allows me to use two os's simultaneously right?
[05:22] <mjunx> it's insane
[05:22] <flafla> hey guys,
[05:22] <mjunx> usurp, yes
[05:22] <usurp> ok
[05:22] <usurp> ty
[05:22] <Dr_willis> usurp,  yes.. more then 2  even.
[05:22] <mase> so
[05:22] <wes_1977> it does not connect to my home network, but wifi-radar and iwlist does see the network
[05:23] <mase> do i just delete those folders?
[05:23] <cables> usurp, yep, but you'll need enough memory for whichever ones you're using
[05:23] <mjunx> as many as you can run with the amount of ram you have
[05:23] <usurp> i got 1gb ram
[05:23] <Dr_willis> mase,  yes.. or rename them..
[05:23] <mase> k thanks
[05:23] <usurp> 1 gb enough?
[05:23] <flafla> all of my video players, Totem, VLC won't stop playing at like 1.5-2x speed (but kaffeine plays ok)  can anyone help me fix this?  it used to work find...
[05:23] <cables> usurp, that's just enough to run ubuntu and xp comfortably.
[05:23] <shinobi2> what's a good wireless card for ubuntu 6.10? need to buy one for my Mac (ppc).
[05:23] <Dr_willis> that will remove ALL gnome settings.
[05:23] <cables> usurp, but not TOO comfortably.
[05:23] <cables> usurp, I have 512 mb of RAM, and I dual-boot, and both OS's run fine.
[05:24] <mjunx> shinobi2, ralink something (there's an asus card for it)
[05:24] <oritemis> Can someone helps me with amsn webcam troubleshooting?
[05:24] <cables> wes_1977, have you tried changing network settings like encryption to see if something specific is causing the problem?
[05:24] <sgentry6> night all
[05:24] <oritemis> noone is answering in amsn channel.
[05:24] <wes_1977> right now my wireless network is completely open, essid is broadcasting, no encryption, no mac restrictions
[05:24] <usurp> if i have windows connected to the internet in wmware will the linux OS also get on-line able?
[05:24] <cables> wes_1977, that's weird... have you tried other networks?
[05:24] <wes_1977> yes
[05:24] <flafla> all of my video players, Totem, VLC won't stop playing at like 1.5-2x speed (but kaffeine plays ok)  can anyone help me fix this?  it used to work find...
[05:24] <mjunx> usurp, yeah
[05:25] <wes_1977> I can see them, but not connect to them
[05:25] <cables> usurp, yep.e
[05:25] <mase> damn its still crashing
[05:25] <usurp> cool
[05:25] <usurp> ty
[05:25] <mase> i mean freezing..
[05:25] <tritoch> i'm having difficulties configuring my wireless card to work with WPA i've documented the problem here http://www.pastebin.ca/387195
[05:25] <mjunx> flafla, you tried using mplayer?
[05:25] <cables> mase, what app is crashing?
[05:25] <mase> cables: gnome settings daemon
[05:25] <flafla> mjunx: yup same darn thing
[05:25] <mase> cables: i tried installing a theme now gnome is going crazy trying to load it
[05:25] <mjunx> restarted X?
[05:25] <cables> wes_1977, try connecting without wifi-radar
[05:25] <cables> mase, ah
[05:25] <flafla> mjunx: yes
[05:25] <cables> mase, i had the same problem
[05:26] <mase> oh??
[05:26] <mase> what do i have to do then?
[05:26] <shinobi2> mjunx: ok, searching
[05:26] <flafla> mjunx: reboots don't help either
[05:26] <mjunx> have you installed any updates since it last worked?
[05:26] <cables> mase, I couldn't even load Gnome, i had to go into recovery mode
[05:26] <cables> mase, do you know what the theme is called?
[05:26] <mase> yes
[05:26] <mjunx> shinobi2, check gnu.org
[05:26] <bulmer> wes_1977: what happens when you as root issues  iwlist wlan0  scan
[05:26] <mase> balloonsblue
[05:26] <cables> mase, do you know where it is on your system?
[05:26] <flafla> mjunx:  I don't know... I was watching a video and then it just started playing 1.5x as I moved my mouse... it never played the same again :(
[05:26] <mase> nope
[05:26] <mase> i just dragged it
[05:26] <mase> from a tar bz2
[05:26] <mjunx> flafla, tried using different video drivers?
[05:27] <mjunx> like xv, x11, vidix, etc.
[05:27] <cables> mase, are you comfortable in the terminal?
[05:27] <mase> yes
[05:27] <flafla> mjunx:  no
[05:27] <mjunx> well, go ahead and try
[05:27] <flafla> mjunx but it used to play fine
[05:27] <cables> mase, well it's either in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes
[05:27] <flafla> mjunx: I don't no what thos drivers you said are...
[05:27] <cables> mase, if you can't get into gnome, try deleting the theme from recovery mode
[05:27] <atlantia> hmm
[05:27] <mase> just delete the whole folder?
[05:27] <cables> mase, gnome should fallback on a working theme.
[05:27] <cables> mase, not the whole themes folder,
[05:28] <atlantia> i'll try one last time.. pm me if you think you can help
[05:28] <atlantia> i'll try one last time.. pm me if you think you can help
[05:28] <cables> mase, just the specific theme
[05:28] <atlantia> could use some help if someone has a second.. installing edgy on a p3 intel based motherboard, and whenever i boot with any pci items installed, i get irq errors and kernel panics.. i have considered downgrading the kernel, although without compiling i am unsure of a proper way of doing this... any other suggestions on how i can get this to work?
[05:28] <sontek> Hey, I'm trying to install my works printer in ubuntu, its a network printer but no matter what I try it says "Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry.."
[05:28] <mase> theres nothing in .themes though
[05:28] <mjunx> flafla, try using "mplayer -vo xv file.avi"
[05:28] <cables> mase, nothing in ~/.themes?
[05:28] <cables> mase, check /usr/share/themes
[05:28] <mase> yeah plenty there
[05:28] <mjunx> sontek, you got samba installed?
[05:28] <cables> mase, how 'bout the problematic one?
[05:28] <mase> not there
[05:28] <wes_1977> when I do iwlist ath0 scanning I can see the wireless network
[05:29] <mase> i dont think they're from gnome though
[05:29] <mase> im thinking their KDE
[05:29] <cables> mase, hold on a sec
[05:29] <mjunx> no, those are gnome themes, mase
[05:29] <sontek> mjunx: yeah
[05:29] <bulmer> wes_1977: can you please prefix you responses with a nick so we know to whom you're responding to
[05:29] <mjunx> kde themes are in /usr/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/
[05:29] <gaminggeek> Can someone tell me why all of a sudden sound only comes out of the suround plug insted of the green plug?
[05:29] <mase> is there anyway to force a theme change?
[05:29] <mase> oic mjunx
[05:30] <wes_1977> bulmer: sorry, will do on future responses
[05:30] <mjunx> sontek, I'm out of ideas ;p
[05:30] <cables> mase, i think theme settings are stored in gconf, but i don't know how to edit that without access to a gui
[05:30] <cables> !gconf
[05:30] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[05:30] <mase> i am in gui though
[05:30] <mase> aight
[05:30] <mase> ill get it
[05:31] <cables> mase, i didn't know that, thought gui wouldn't start.
[05:31] <mjunx> cables, you edit some xml files in ~/.gconf/
[05:31] <mase> oh it does start
[05:31] <atlantia> sigh.. anyone?
[05:31] <mase> im in it right now
[05:31] <cables> mase, i found something promising in /apps/gnome/interface/
[05:31] <bulmer> wes_1977: iwconfig ath0   what does that tell you?
[05:32] <mase> wehre is apps?
[05:32] <cables> mase, gconf-editor
[05:32] <cables> mase, alt-f2 then gconf-editor to get into that
[05:32] <omeil> Is there anyway to make wine run skype?
[05:32] <wes_1977> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9377/
[05:32] <mjunx> omeil, skype has a linux port
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !skype
[05:33] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:33] <mase> i have a bunch of gnome sub folders
[05:33] <mase> just not a gnome
[05:33] <bulmer> wes_1977: now issue             dhclient
[05:33] <cables> mjunx, omeil, skype for linux still doesn't have half the features of skype for windows
[05:33] <mjunx> o rly?
[05:33] <omeil> yea i have that :) its just that the linux version is only v1.3 and the windows is version 3 :( they are leaving the linux version behind
[05:33] <mjunx> well, just install wine
[05:33] <cables> mjunx, video, live, status
[05:33] <mjunx> well, the current java version is 1.6, but they call is java 6
[05:33] <cables> mjunx, omeil, i tried it... didn't work too great. No images on buttons, and things like that.
[05:34] <mase> cables, i see gnome-xxxxx etc, but not just "gnome"
[05:34] <omeil> cables: yea i got it installed the only good thing is voice supports
[05:34] <omeil> i guess i can talk in skype and video on gaim lol
[05:34] <mjunx> kopete has good video support
[05:35] <omeil> !kopete
[05:35] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[05:35] <cables> mase, sorry, i got that wrong
[05:35] <cables> mase, try /desktop/gnome/interface
[05:35] <cables> mase, why can't you delete the theme and change it from gnome theme manager? Is that broken?
[05:35] <mase> the theme manager just freezes
[05:35] <mase> but everythinge lse works
[05:36] <bulmer> wes_1977: what did you get from that command dhclient ?
[05:36] <cables> mase, try doing a file search for your theme's name
[05:36] <omeil> oh on savage 2's release there will be clients for both windows and linux :) they support both of them 100%
[05:36] <atlantia> could use some help if someone has a second.. installing edgy on a p3 intel based motherboard, and whenever i boot with any pci items installed, i get irq errors and kernel panics.. i have considered downgrading the kernel, although without compiling i am unsure of a proper way of doing this... any other suggestions on how i can get this to work?
[05:36] <cables> mase, i have to go, sorry i couldn't help more.
[05:36] <mase> thanks anyways
[05:36] <christian1222> how do i find out what graphics card I have?
[05:36] <cables> !repeat | atlantia, it's only been like 5 minutes
[05:36] <ubotu> atlantia, it's only been like 5 minutes: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:36] <cables> christian1222, lspci | grep VGA
[05:37] <joe4444> can someone recommend a good irc client for ubuntu?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> !irc
[05:37] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[05:37] <christian1222> cables: thanks
[05:37] <omeil> Xchat :D
[05:37] <eternal_p> good evening all, I am wondering how I can play a VCD program from the hard drive, I have three volders, but I don't know what to do with them, todem doesn'tseem to want to open it...any thoughts?
[05:37] <mjunx> also see bitchx for a good console one
[05:37] <mjunx> or ircii, or anything based on that
[05:37] <joe4444> can xchat tile/cascade channel windows?
[05:37] <cables> joe4444, xchat
[05:37] <mjunx> hmm, I dunno
[05:37] <r00t_> Help me please.... i am being tormented...
[05:37] <mjunx> irssi can IIRC
[05:37] <cables> joe4444, i'm not sure i know what you mean
[05:38] <cables> joe4444, it's got tabs, and you can have multiple windows open
[05:38] <mjunx> he means like mirc can
[05:38] <mjunx> I think
[05:38] <wes_1977> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9378/
[05:38] <mjunx> kvirc can
[05:38] <joe4444> cables, i detached each channel window so i could see both at the same time, but that just adds a separate tab in the system panel, which gets cluttered
[05:38] <Dr_willis> the windowmanager/desktop can tile windows. :)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> well some can
[05:38] <omeil> xchat is quite similar to mIRC
[05:38] <mjunx> kvirc is similar to mirc
[05:38] <joe4444> yeah i'm switching from windows to ubuntu, so i'm looking for something similar to mirc... nothing fancy
[05:38] <mjunx> along with all the interface confusion
[05:39] <r00t_> this may be a dumb question, but can anyone get on this site   http://www.getautomatix.com/?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i use xchat under linux and windows
[05:39] <cables> r00t_, Nooooooooooooo!!!!!
[05:39] <mjunx> r00t_, I get a 403 error
[05:39] <omeil> u want automatix 0_o
[05:39] <cables> !automatix | r00t_
[05:39] <ubotu> r00t_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:39] <r00t_> me too
[05:40] <omeil> r00t_: says its forbidden
[05:40] <cables> r00t_, PLEASE don't use automatix... we can help you if there's anything you need installed, just don't use automatix
[05:40] <r00t_> no, Ubuntu is great
[05:40] <Takaru> Hello, I have a problem, I can't manage to get bittorrent to work. I've tried like atleast 3 different clients at first, none of them worked. I have the ports open on firestarter and my router, also tried a manual script I found somewhere. On http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/ it still tells me that my ports aren't open =/ It worked fine on windows. Could anyone please give me any suggestions on what to try?
[05:40] <r00t_> i was just wondering if i was crazy
[05:40] <Dr_willis> 'just dont do it man... step back from the script...'
[05:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <cables> Takaru, is this an Ubuntu problem?
[05:40] <r00t_> lol
[05:40] <Dr_willis> 'you have too much to live for....'
[05:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <mjunx> Takaru, try using bittornado and azureus
[05:40] <Takaru> Possibly, because it worked on windows
[05:40] <Takaru> I've tried both of them, mjunx =/
[05:41] <mjunx> and neither work? that's odd
[05:41] <cables> Takaru, doublecheck your port forwarding, make sure your IP address hasn't changed
[05:41] <bulmer> wes_1977: i'd disable those other interfaces temporarily until you get the wireless portion working
[05:41] <omeil> Dr_willis, you play ne games on ubuntu?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> omeil,  rtcw:et and Savage  Mainly. :)
[05:41] <cables> r00t_, if you plan on upgrading to Feisty, don't use Automatix :)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Trembulus makes me too dizy
[05:41] <omeil> Dr_willis: you can't wait till savage 2 is released?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> omeil,  ugh.. i though it was allready out
[05:41] <r00t_> i need to mount my old windows hard drive
[05:41] <r00t_> ok not automatix2
[05:41] <omeil> Dr_willis: it is 0_o
[05:41] <cables> r00t_, Automatix won't help with that :)
[05:41] <r00t_> no*
[05:41] <wes_1977> bulmer: vmnet1 and vmnet8? What is the easiest way to disable them?
[05:41] <cables> !ntfs | r00t_
[05:41] <ubotu> r00t_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:42] <Dr_willis> omeil,  but its one those 'gotta order it games' cant find it in stores.
[05:42] <bulmer> wes_1977: having that many interfaces will most likely get your system confused as to which is the correct gateway to use
[05:42] <joe4444> anyone like EasyUbuntu?
[05:42] <r00t_> i tried ntfs-3g with no luck
[05:42] <Takaru> My IP address has changed, I've already reconfigured my router and made it keep my IP address, should I do something on Ubuntu aswell?
[05:42] <joe4444> seems alright to me, but i just got it today
[05:42] <omeil> Dr_willis: yeah. but its worth ordering :) since it will be supported with linux
[05:42] <omeil> Dr_willis: im usually an alien on Trem :D....the crazyness
[05:43] <mjunx> Trem?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> omeil, ive heard good and bad things about the company.. but if i see it in the stores i will pick it up. For now I'll play Savage 1
[05:43] <mjunx> that's a total mencoder flashback
[05:43] <wes_1977> bulmer: so I can disable wifi0, vmnet1, and vmnet8 and just leave ath0 (wireless), eth0 (wired), and lo is that correct?
[05:43] <omeil> Dr_willis: im actually downloading savage 1 for linux as we speak
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Tremubus - makes me so dizy i puke. :)
[05:43] <omeil> lol
[05:43] <arrow> takaru: haveing the port forwarding correct is all you should need, do you have azureus
[05:43] <omeil> hey its not that bad
[05:44] <omeil> they could atleast decrease the speed tho lol :) talk about speed demons
[05:44] <bulmer> wes_1977: just leave lo and ath0 only
[05:44] <r00t_> sorry for the long post, but this is what it says for my dhb part i want to mount...
[05:44] <Takaru> Nope, not anymore, I removed azureus when I installed BitTornado. In Azureus, all the lights were always red and the smiley faces aswell. =/
[05:44] <r00t_> Disk /dev/hda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
[05:44] <r00t_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
[05:44] <r00t_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:44] <r00t_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:44] <r00t_> /dev/hda1   *           1       24415   196113456   83  Linux
[05:44] <r00t_> /dev/hda2           24416       24792     3028252+   5  Extended
[05:44] <cables> !paste | r00t_
[05:44] <ubotu> r00t_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <r00t_> /dev/hda5           24416       24792     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[05:44] <r00t_> Disk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[05:44] <r00t_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[05:44] <cables> !paste > r00t_
[05:44] <r00t_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:44] <r00t_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:44] <r00t_> /dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   42  SFS
[05:44] <userund> root stop
[05:45] <omeil> Dr_willis: trem time for me :D
[05:45] <r00t_> sorry, new tot his
[05:45] <mjunx> he can't lol
[05:45] <wes_1977> bulmer: ok, that will require me to be disconnected from the internet temporarily to do that b/c I'm connected via eth0 now. Where should I disable those interfaces from? Is it just in the /etc/networking/interfaces file?
[05:45] <cables> userund, can't stop
[05:45] <atlantia> fixed it, but thanks for the ! repeat notification.. wasn't aware i was being impatient, this was the third night i have baited this issue
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I guess savage 2 isent out yet..
[05:45] <bulmer> wes_1977: no, you have to google for this and find out where they will get disabled, i dont know off hand
[05:45] <cables> atlantia, you're being impatient when you ask twice within a few minutes.
[05:46] <wes_1977> bulmer: ok, I'll do that. hopefully I'll be back soon, but either way, thanks for your help.
[05:46] <tritoch> i'm having difficulties configuring my wireless card to work with WPA i've documented the problem here http://www.pastebin.ca/387195
[05:46] <arrow> I'm trying to learn Bash, is there an IRC channel that specializes in that, or does anyone know how to go about finding one?
[05:46] <atlantia> cables, or, alternatively, i could be lead to believe no one may have seen or it or since i posted, er may have been joined by someone who could answer the question, but, as i said, the issue is resolved, thank you for your attention
[05:46] <dc_> hi
[05:46] <dc_> people
[05:47] <mjunx> over a period of 9 days, my log for this channel is already >2 MB, wow
[05:47] <mjunx> arrow, try #bash ?
[05:47] <userund> #bash
[05:47] <arrow> thx
[05:47] <cables> !bash | arrow
[05:47] <ubotu> arrow: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:47] <cables> !wpa | tritoch
[05:47] <ubotu> tritoch: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:47] <tritoch> argh i thought i uninstalled xscreensaver and here it's back again
[05:47] <mjunx> check the info pages for bash also
[05:48] <r00t_> is this better? sorry....   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9380/
[05:48] <slickguy> tritoch, gnome-screensaver
[05:48] <atlantia> tritoch, i have had alot of luck with connection manager.. it manages wpa rather well
[05:48] <cables> r00t_, much better :)
[05:48] <tritoch> xfce
[05:48] <tritoch> dont have network manager on xubuntu either
[05:48] <Dcorp>  hello mjinxmjunx
[05:48] <Dcorp>  hello mjinxmjunx
[05:48] <tritoch> maybe i do
[05:48] <mjunx> hiya
[05:49] <atlantia> tritoch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299462
[05:49] <mase> cables i just found out
[05:49] <mase> cables the theme its having difficulty loading is HUMAN
[05:49] <mase> it says unable to load in /usr/share/gdm/themes
[05:49] <cables> mase, that's a bit weird
[05:49] <mase> or something
[05:49] <cables> mase, gdm?
[05:49] <atlantia> tritoch, highly recommended
[05:49] <mase> yes
[05:49] <cables> mase, that's your login theme.
[05:49] <mase> but theres no HUMAN in there
[05:50] <mjunx> because gdm doesn't have a human theme?
[05:50] <tritoch> atlantia: whats the package name
[05:50] <mase> well then why is it asking for one
[05:50] <bulmer> tritoch: for one, am not sure if mis-spelled lopback causes major problem, two, does your driver support wpa?
[05:50] <tritoch> sorry i had to copy it manually
[05:50] <mase> cables: so u dont know of any way to force change theme? theme selector dont work at all
[05:50] <tritoch> so loopback is spelled properly
[05:51] <bulmer> tritoch: : can you please prefix you responses with a nick so we know to whom you're responding to
[05:51] <cables> mase, there's gotta be a configuration file somewhere, I just don't know where it is.
[05:51] <tritoch> bulmer: sure. how do i find out if my driver supports wpa
[05:51] <atlantia> tritoch, that one is actually a .deb package you can download and install via dpkg, as in "dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:51] <atlantia> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=21071&stc=1&d=1166161595
[05:51] <atlantia> direct link to the .deb package
[05:51] <mase> hum
[05:51] <tritoch> atlantia: thanks
[05:51] <r00t_> here is what my fstab looks like if someone could please shed some light for me...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9381/
[05:51] <bulmer> tritoch:  google?
[05:53] <cables> r00t_, have you double-checked that your windows drive is /dev/hdb1?
[05:53] <tritoch> bulmer: it appears so
[05:53] <atlantia> tritoch, my intel chipset does, but would not connect to wpa AP before i used that manager.. there is a seperate WPA driver (wext) that the connection manager adds to handle WPA support
[05:53] <r00t_> how may i ask...
[05:53] <tritoch> i have wext set up in /interfaces
[05:53] <cables> !who | r00t_
[05:53] <ubotu> r00t_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:53] <bjv> when i launch firefox it spits out a paragraph "Flushing 127.0.0.1 (urls including google) then the same urls with file:// and https://" then "resources:"
[05:53] <bjv> is this some ubuntu added feature?
[05:53] <bjv> this is printed out to the terminal upon launching firefox 2.0.0.2 or closing it
[05:54] <r00t_> !who
[05:54] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:54] <bjv> the firefox people searching the ff code cannot find those strings or have any idea what im talking about
[05:54] <r00t_> lol, wow i suck at this
[05:54] <mjunx> lol, what irony
[05:54] <Anohaakten> guys
[05:54] <cables> r00t_, you're still not prefixing a name :)
[05:54] <atlantia> tritoch, hmm well i woudl say try that manger anyways.. i have mine setup in the gnome deskbar.. you have to click configure to put your WPA key in
[05:54] <Anohaakten> what should I get for my ubuntu now?
[05:54] <Anohaakten> I got beryl and kiba dock installed
[05:54] <atlantia> r00t, type the name for who you wish to talk to
[05:54] <Anohaakten> im bored...I need something cool
[05:55] <r00t_> cables, did that work?
[05:55] <tritoch> atlantia: im slowing transfering that over to my laptop via usb key
[05:55] <atlantia> even if you type it after, like r00t, it will work
[05:55] <cables> r00t_, there ya go
[05:55] <bjv> Anohaakten: 2x 12foot usb cables and wireless dongles
[05:55] <r00t_> cables, ok
[05:55] <atlantia> tritoch, heh
[05:55] <mase> cables
[05:55] <mase> how do i delete all my settings
[05:55] <cables> mase
[05:55] <Anohaakten> huh bjv?
[05:55] <mase> so theres no theme problem
[05:55] <cables> mase, i don't know.
[05:55] <mase> ok thanks anyways buddy
[05:55] <jhildebrand> anyone had luck installing feisty on parallels?  it boots fine off the .iso, but then can't find the cd-drive in the installer.
[05:55] <mjunx> Anohaakten, try out nouveau
[05:55] <mjunx> that'll give you some fun
[05:56] <Anohaakten> what exactly is it?
[05:56] <bjv> Anohaakten: so your ubuntu can talk to multiple networks and route. and look funny
[05:56] <r00t_> I takei it feisty is the next ubuntu release?
[05:56] <cables> mjunx, is there a list of supported cards in nouveau somewhere?
[05:56] <cables> r00t_, yep
[05:56] <cables> !nouveau | Anohaakten
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nouveau - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <mjunx> cables, anything nvidia
[05:56] <cables> apparently not
[05:56] <r00t_> cables, when is it due out?
[05:56] <cables> mjunx, it's not out though...
[05:56] <DeL3e7>  /nick greasedupdeafguy
[05:56] <mjunx> that's what makes it so fun!
[05:57] <cables> mjunx, great... but does it actually work?
[05:57] <mjunx> I dunno
[05:57] <mjunx> it's updated constantly
[05:57] <mjunx> and you can help them out by testing glxgears with it
[05:57] <cables> r00t_, so do sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[05:57] <cables> r00t_, make sure you see /dev/hdb1
[05:57] <mjunx> and talking to them in #nouveau
[05:57] <Anohaakten> maybe ill install x-chat
[05:57] <Anohaakten> and delete this chatzilla
[05:58] <r00t_> cables, ok thx
[05:58] <cables> Anohaakten, xchat rocks
[05:58] <Anohaakten> ill give it a go
[05:58] <Anohaakten> brb
[05:58] <H264> ... question...
[05:58] <r00t_> cables,
[05:58] <cables> H264, ask it
[05:58] <r00t_> cables, nope
[05:58] <r00t_> nada
[05:58] <cables> r00t_, what is it then?
[05:58] <cables> r00t_, nada?
[05:59] <r00t_> cables, lol
[05:59] <mjunx> what about h264?
[05:59] <H264> I edited the heh
[05:59] <H264> err
[05:59] <mjunx> the heh, lol
[05:59] <r00t_> cables, no, it goes from the prompt to another prompt with no data
[05:59] <cables> r00t_, that sounds bad
[05:59] <cables> r00t_, that basically means it doesn't see an ntfs partition
[05:59] <cables> r00t_, you used sudo?
[05:59] <H264> I can't get the desktop above 1024x768
[05:59] <r00t_> sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[05:59] <cables> !resolution | H264
[05:59] <ubotu> H264: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <r00t_> cables, that right?
[06:00] <cables> r00t_, yep. can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[06:00] <Oli``> Every time (apart from the first time) I boot with my WIFI PCMCIA card in Gnome and XFCE lock up while loading. KDE loads fine but cannot use the device. The hardware is supported natively by Ubuntu (it's the rt2500 chipset) so I'm not entirely sure what's going on. If I boot to the 6.10 live CD, everything is fine and works... What have I broken?
[06:00] <H264> I edided a system file folowing it
[06:00] <cables> r00t_, brb for a min, sorry
[06:00] <H264> can't remember the file name
[06:01] <r00t_> cables, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9380/
[06:01] <christian1222> im trying to install the kernel interface for an NVIDIA driver, and im having a hell of a time, since there are no ubuntu instructions, debian is closest right?
[06:01] <H264> but I added a few other 4x3 resolutions next to the default 3
[06:01] <H264> did not work
[06:01] <Oli``> christian1222: yes
[06:01] <mjunx> christyeah
[06:01] <mjunx> damn, too many chrises
[06:02] <Oli``> yeah my tab key is all worn out
[06:02] <H264> then I as reading something somewhere that said "nv" wa the default driver, and I think it should be "nvidia"
[06:02] <H264> *was the
[06:02] <wiseKid> how can i get vmware to install properly?
[06:02] <mjunx> nvidia is the non-free blob
[06:02] <sapphire99> does anyone know how to use put songs on an ipod using linus unbuntu?
[06:02] <mjunx> nv is the free somewhat-blob
[06:02] <christian1222> Oli``: ok the debian install instructions are not working when i use make, it says: *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
[06:02] <H264> non-free?
[06:03] <mjunx> and nouveau is the free driver that's in development
[06:03] <mjunx> uh, hmm
[06:03] <mjunx> !nonfree
[06:03] <cables> H264, nvidia is better, although not open-source
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <mjunx> gah, just see gnu.org
[06:03] <r00t_> cables, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9380/
[06:03] <christian1222> [550]  09:00 PM ~/nvidia/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv$ uname -r:  2.6.17-11-386
[06:03] <cables> r00t_, yeah, i just scrolled up and saw that :)
[06:03] <r00t_> lol
[06:04] <r00t_> cables, sorry to pester you with this
[06:04] <cables> r00t_, no problem, why do you think I go onto this channel if not to be pestered?
[06:04] <mjunx> to ask your own questions? ;p
[06:04] <r00t_> cables, heh, i just wnat to understand it that is all
[06:05] <cables> r00t_, are you sure you actually have an ntfs partition?
[06:05] <vidd_laptop> hello....i need some help with bcm43xx
[06:05] <r00t_> cables, here is what happened...
[06:05] <vidd_laptop> ive read the wifi doc but i still cant see my wireless router
[06:05] <cables> vidd_laptop, you're not gonna be able to see it... you need to type its name it.
[06:06] <cables> vidd_laptop, *in
[06:06] <vidd_laptop> i ddi
[06:06] <vidd_laptop> i still get "acess point invalid"
[06:06] <r00t_> cables, i had windows, formated for ubuntu, my d: drive on windows has all my music on it. i left it alone and used the 230 Gb maxtor for ubuntu. now i wanted to know how to gte it so i can see it and use them...
[06:07] <vidd_laptop> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/87870-bcm43xx-installed-but-know-working-correctly.html
[06:07] <vidd_laptop> this has all the info
[06:07] <cables> r00t_, but it doesn't look like you actually have an ntfs partition on any hd connected to the computer...
[06:07] <xyz-abc> hi guys, i need urgent help!
[06:07] <scott_> yo
[06:08] <xyz-abc> i need to know why this command doesnt do its job: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[06:08] <cables> r00t_, it says SFS, not NTFS, for /dev/hdb1... is the filesystem still working?
[06:08] <xyz-abc> i needed to erase all my hdd's contents
[06:08] <r00t_> cables, see where it says /dev/hdb on the bottom of the fdisk command?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  fdisk and deleting the partitions is too hard? :)
[06:08] <r00t_> cables, as far as i know
[06:08] <xyz-abc> well
[06:08] <cables> xyz-abc, if you wanna do that, use dban or the dreaded command that we can't say here.
[06:08] <xyz-abc> i have a special situation
[06:08] <xyz-abc> i cant use the traditional methods
[06:08] <xyz-abc> they dont work
[06:08] <cables> xyz-abc, dban is the best for special situations
[06:08] <xyz-abc> i screwed up too bad
[06:09] <xyz-abc> dban = debian?
[06:09] <cables> xyz-abc, http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[06:09] <cables> xyz-abc, darik's boot and nuke
[06:09] <r00t_> cables, http://www.fs.net/sfswww/
[06:09] <scott_> ugh
[06:09] <scott_> how do I change my nickname
[06:09] <hanasaki> how can i change the theme in gdm?
[06:09] <cables> scott_, what client?
[06:09] <Dr_willis>    /nick ILikeNicks
[06:09] <hanasaki> Scott type "/nick newnickname"
[06:09] <Anohaakten> sweet
[06:09] <vidd_laptop> any insite on my wifi issue?
[06:09] <xyz-abc> why is it though, that this "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M" command doesnt work?
[06:09] <Anohaakten> got it
[06:09] <cables> hanasaki, System>Administration>login window
[06:09] <Anohaakten> I knew that
[06:09] <Anohaakten> lol
[06:09] <xyz-abc> i really would prefer this
[06:09] <hanasaki> cables thanks
[06:09] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  why use the bs option?
[06:09] <cables> xyz-abc, no idea...
[06:10] <Anohaakten> Im back, xchat looks pretty sweet
[06:10] <xyz-abc> i dont know..
[06:10] <mjunx> xyz, need root
[06:10] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  you are root?
[06:10] <r00t_> cables, not sure what sfs stands for really...
[06:10] <xyz-abc> ?
[06:10] <Anohaakten> actually...it is still pretty basic
[06:10] <xyz-abc> im a total noob
[06:10] <cables> r00t_, well it's sure as hell not ntfs
[06:10] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  thats a scary thought.
[06:10] <vidd_laptop> xyz-abc, sudo [command here] 
[06:10] <xyz-abc> i have a default edgy's build of ubuntu
[06:10] <r00t_> cables, lol
[06:10] <xyz-abc> i tried sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[06:10] <hanasaki> cables: there used to be a way to change it while on the gdm login screen....
[06:10] <xyz-abc> i think some directories didnt match up
[06:10] <cables> hanasaki, not that I know of...
[06:10] <Dr_willis> directories? those are devices...
[06:11] <hanasaki> cables hmm it was in debina sarge ;)
[06:11] <hanasaki> but gdm is gdm , right?
[06:11] <r00t_> cables, it worked on my last install with kubuntu. But i like Ubuntu better so i switched back.
[06:11] <bjv> i wouldnt think you needed to specify doing it in 1meg blocks
[06:11] <Dr_willis> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda    should trash the drive rather fast.
[06:11] <xyz-abc> well whatever u wann call them
[06:11] <Dr_willis> but i bet the feds could still recover it. :)
[06:11] <cables> hanasaki, it probably has to do with the gdm theme
[06:11] <vidd_laptop> lol Dr_willis
[06:12] <mjunx> eh, I'm bushed, I'm gonna go do other stuff, g'nite everyone
[06:12] <r00t_> SMASH IT
[06:12] <hanasaki> yes.. exactly.. thats what I want to change.. i did install htem.  fyi.. there is no login under system/admin
[06:12] <cables> xyz-abc, if your special situation has to do with illegal activities, dban is the way to go
[06:12] <cables> xyz-abc,  :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:12] <xyz-abc> this is the 'error' message i got: opening /dev/hda : is a directory
[06:12] <r00t_> worked for me
[06:12] <cables> xyz-abc, dban will seriously wipe the EVERYTHING out of that drive multiple times.
[06:12] <xyz-abc> why is this illegal?
[06:12] <bjv> it's not
[06:12] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  sounds like you got somthing very odd going on then.
[06:13] <xyz-abc> willis, do u care to hear my sad story?
[06:13] <Evil_`> how can I set 1 inch margins in open office?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  what did you 'boot'  to get to an os?
[06:13] <hanasaki> looks like its stuck w/ the gdm theme from ubuntu :( not nice ..
[06:13] <xyz-abc> ubuntu 6.10 edgy's build
[06:13] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  others might... :)
[06:13] <xyz-abc> ?
[06:13] <xyz-abc> ?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> ---...---
[06:13] <xyz-abc> willis dont be so mysterious
[06:13] <xyz-abc> i need to take care of this
[06:14] <monsoon_king> hi all
[06:14] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  WHAT did you boot to do this work?
[06:14] <xyz-abc> btw, this webpage: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Clean_Hard_Drive_zero_fill kinda promised that any linux build could do that command
[06:14] <monsoon_king> i am unable to install ubuntu
[06:14] <xyz-abc> i dont get ur questino
[06:14] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  if it says hda is a folder/directory - then for some reasin its not seeing the hard drive.
[06:14] <t35t0r> Dr_willis, what are you a dr of?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> t35t0r,  im a dr of love.
[06:14] <t35t0r> scary...
[06:14] <Takaru> Argh, this is driving me crazy =(. I've checked like atleast 20 times by now, I've opened the ports I need on my router and they're definatley open there, but when I try to check if my ports are open on whatismyip.com, it tells me they're closed. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[06:14] <t35t0r> is that your usual pick up line?
[06:14] <hanasaki> cables? anyone?  how can the gdm theme be changed?  I dont see any menu option
[06:15] <Dr_willis> t35t0r,  only on irc. :)
[06:15] <xyz-abc> we willis, do u care for me explain how i got to this stage? it may be helpful
[06:15] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,   go ahead...
[06:15] <t35t0r> !quote <t35t0r> Dr_willis, what are you a dr of? Dr_willis t35t0r,  im a dr of love.
[06:15] <xyz-abc> alright:
[06:15] <vidd_laptop> Takaru, your isp is blocking the ports
[06:15] <cables> hanasaki, System>Administration>Login Window
[06:15] <xyz-abc> 1st of all: i booted up ubuntu 6.10 , then I started installing it
[06:15] <Takaru> vidd_laptop, they worked on windows less then a few weeks ago, and I haven't changed my ISP
[06:15] <xyz-abc> i allowed it to take away as much as it wanted from a certain partition
[06:16] <hanasaki> cables, there is no such submenu
[06:16] <xyz-abc> however... it seemed to me that the installation froze up or something..
[06:16] <xyz-abc> so i rebooted my pc in the middle of it
[06:16] <xyz-abc> bad move..
[06:16] <a686578> hallo im having a problem loading azureus, it actually loads and the window pops up but disappears breifly and gives me a log file
[06:16] <a686578> can someone please assist me? id greatly appreciate it
[06:16] <xyz-abc> then.. i tried reformating, but couldnt
[06:16] <vidd_laptop> Takaru, do you have a firewall program installed?
[06:16] <a686578> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/9385/
[06:16] <xyz-abc> not thru windows xp installation disc, not thru Ubuntu
[06:16] <xyz-abc> it just doesnt let me
[06:16] <xyz-abc> it doesnt even let me delete partition
[06:16] <xyz-abc> partitions
[06:17] <xyz-abc> also i believe i have partitions with an 'unkown' file format
[06:17] <Takaru> vidd_laptop, Yeah, I installed firestarter cause I heard that on Ubuntu the ports were locked by default, so I opened the ports on firestarter aswell
[06:17] <xyz-abc> so basically at this stage im ready to zero-fill my harddrive
[06:17] <vidd_laptop> Takaru, you may need to so you can UNblock the ports in your IP tables
[06:17] <xyz-abc> except i found out about this command : http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Clean_Hard_Drive_zero_fill
[06:17] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  use 'fdisk -l' to see if anything is evern seen on the hd.. from that '/dev/hda is a folder' message - it tells me the system isent seeing the hard drive at all. LIke you just ha da drive fail.
[06:17] <xyz-abc> i mean this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[06:18] <xyz-abc> ok i will
[06:18] <vidd_laptop> Takaru, Then i dont know what else to say
[06:18] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  try a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[06:18] <vidd_laptop> =[
[06:18] <xyz-abc> btw, windows takes like at least 10 seconds each time to recognize my hd..
[06:18] <Anohaakten> why cant I see a list of nicks with xchat...
[06:18] <xyz-abc> i'll try that command now
[06:18] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  sounds more and more to me like the hard drive just went Dead.
[06:19] <vidd_laptop> xyz-abc, you may have a bad disk or a bad ide cable
[06:19] <xyz-abc> hmmm
[06:19] <xyz-abc> no
[06:19] <cables> a686578, just got back to the computer, try deleting ~/.azureus . This will delete all your settings, but it's fixed the problem for me many times.
[06:19] <xyz-abc> im sure i screwed it up
[06:19] <Zambezi> Is it necassary to active some settings to be able to connect to my other computer with lftp using SSH2?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  think about it this way.. somthing caused the isntaller to die.
 my ubuntu still doesn't wake from suspend after 3 generations of ubuntu... </whine>
[06:20] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  and ive had similer things happen. if 'fdisk -l' cant see the drive well.. somthing has gone very bad.
[06:20] <vidd_laptop> does anyone here have experience installing the bcm43xx friver?
[06:20] <scott_> yea
[06:20] <Anohaakten> I do
[06:21] <Anohaakten> vidd_laptop, I do
[06:21] <Anohaakten> vidd_laptop, need some help?
[06:21] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten, i keep getting access point invalid
[06:21] <xyz-abc> willis, the fdisk command produces this output "permission denied"
[06:21] <a686578> thanks cables, that worked great!
[06:21] <erik__> ne1 get second life to run on ubuntu?
[06:21] <Anohaakten> hold on vidd_laptop
[06:21] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten, yes please
[06:21] <xyz-abc> HOWEVER, i went to /dev and i found these directories: hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5, hda6, hda7, hdd
[06:22] <xyz-abc> so they are seen
[06:22] <monsoon_king> i installed ubuntu as dual boot with XP..but after instllation when the pc boots the grub doesnt load
[06:22] <xyz-abc> but inaccessible
[06:22] <usurp> when i want to install vmware it says IIS is not installed
[06:22] <bulmer> xyz-abc: you doing an fdisk as root?
[06:22] <Anohaakten> crap
[06:22] <usurp> cAN U HELP
[06:22] <usurp> when i want to install vmware it says IIS is not installed
[06:22] <xyz-abc> yes
[06:22] <Anohaakten> maybe I cant help vidd_laptop I lost the link
[06:22] <xyz-abc> i went to terminal and typed sudo before fdisk, etc.
[06:22] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten, ive been to the wifidoc page
[06:23] <jacquesmerde> which is the ubuntu-derivative which comes with ndiswrapper and a gui way of using it?
[06:23] <xyz-abc> Dr. WILLIS, are you still there?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  in and out.
[06:24] <Anohaakten> vidd_laptop, ok here, I found the link, just go to this website and read the 4th post down http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=148474
[06:24] <vidd_laptop> ok Anohaakten brb
[06:24] <Anohaakten> vidd_laptop, that is what got my wireless up and running
[06:24] <xyz-abc> now, can you tell me "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M" doesnt work?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  does  'sudi fdisk -l /dev/hda' show show any partitions or other info?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> oops
[06:25] <Gog123> ddd -v
[06:25] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  does  'sudo\ fdisk -l /dev/hda' show show any partitions or other info?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> dang typos
[06:25] <cables> xyz-abc, in this time you could have run out to a store, bought a cd-r, downloaded dban, burned it, and ran it :)
[06:26] <xyz-abc> no, willis
[06:26] <xyz-abc> HOWEVER, i went to /dev and i found these directories: hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5, hda6, hda7, hdd
[06:26] <Dr_willis> if fdisk -l isewnt showing any info about /dev/hda and that dd command was saying that /dev/hda is a 'folder' thats telling me the HD is not gettting seen by the machine or buis.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> the fact that theres a /dev/hda means very little.
[06:27] <xyz-abc> ok, so i guess i should download debian
[06:27] <omeil> Dr_willis: so was your savage a 387mb dload?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> omeil,  i downloaded it some months ago.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  theres a few other live-cd-rescue cds out that may bave some tools that might help
[06:28] <omeil> Dr_williw: because there is a new savage version 2.00e i think and its a 387mb dload -_-.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> omeil,  sounds about right
[06:28] <intelikey> i have a problem with gnome.  when i login i only get a terminal  and if i exit that it reverts to gdm.     someone know what to look for ?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> omeil,  'silverback 2e'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> omeil,  is the version .
[06:29] <Flannel> intelikey: does "safe gnome" (under sesssion, at gdm) work?
[06:29] <monsoon_king> i installed ubuntu as dual boot with XP..but after instllation when the pc boots the grub doesnt load
[06:29] <xyz-abc> btw, willis, I downloaded a zero-fill application from seagate's site (my HDD is seagate), an ancient DOS app (that is still OFFICIAL) and started the zero fill, but it didnt seem to be moving forward
[06:29] <intelikey> Flannel i'll check and get back to you.
[06:29] <omeil> Dr_williw: yup your right...hmm does america's army have a linux port?
[06:29] <Flannel> monsoon_king: You installed XP last?
[06:29] <omeil> dig
[06:29] <jacquesmerde> which is the ubuntu-derivative which comes with ndiswrapper and a gui way of using it?
[06:29] <omeil> Dr_willis: yup your right...hmm does america's army have a linux port?
[06:29] <Flannel> jacquesmerde: Ubuntu comes with ndiswrapper
[06:29] <Dr_willis> omeil,  yep it does.. but i SUCK at Americas Army - i cant finish boot camp. :)
[06:30] <monsoon_king> flannel i installed xp first and then ubuntu
[06:30] <Flannel> monsoon_king: really?  Where did you install GRUB?
[06:30] <intelikey> Flannel doesn't much look like it.   i'll give it a minute or two more.
[06:31] <Anohaakten> yo can someone help me....how do I save channels?
[06:31] <Flannel> intelikey: what safe mode does is load gnome without any of the startup things, so if you had a bad startup file, you could remove it.  Just, for... general knowledge
[06:31] <wiseKid> how do i uninstall vmware??
[06:31] <Anohaakten> like how do I save this so everytime I load up in xchat, it starts
[06:31] <intelikey> Flannel all i have now is a mouse courser.  so i assume that failsafe gnome has failed.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> wiseKid,  how did you install it?
[06:31] <monsoon_king> i just followed the installation... it showed its loading grib in HD0
[06:31] <Flannel> intelikey: this is gnome? or X? (brown or grey?)
[06:32] <wiseKid> add/remove in gnome
[06:32] <intelikey> gnome
[06:32] <wiseKid> adept i believe its called
[06:32] <Dr_willis> use the package managers to remove it then.
[06:32] <Flannel> wiseKid: In Gnome?  no, that's add/remove.  Synaptic is it's big brother. (adept is KDE)
[06:32] <wiseKid> i get errors
[06:32] <Flannel> wiseKid: which errors?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> wiseKid,  heh - WHY dident you mention that earlier. :)
[06:33] <wiseKid> dpkg error
[06:33] <mhemu> can someone give me a hand with installing flash? The last time i tried to install it i get constant errors. Every update or installation of any software, flash tries to install and kicks out errors
[06:33] <Flannel> wiseKid: Which errors specifically?
[06:33] <intelikey> Flannel surely it should have loades something by now.  so 'failsafe gnome' has failed to load.  still just a mouse courser, nothing else.
[06:33] <mhemu> I tried getting automatix going, cause i was told that makes it easy to work with flash, but i can't get that going either
[06:33] <xyz-abc> dr. willis, if ubuntu is based on debian... why cant i do the 'rescue mission' on ubuntu?
[06:33] <wiseKid> one sec let me try and uninstall again
[06:33] <Flannel> !automatix | mhemu
[06:33] <ubotu> mhemu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:34] <jacquesmerde> Flannel: does ubuntu also come with all the windows drivers?
[06:34] <wiseKid> E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[06:34] <Flannel> mhemu: Flash is super easy to install without automatix (like most of the stuff automatix 'does'), there's really no reason to use it (especially considering it's issues)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  i belive the person earlier suggested you use a specific tool. not 'debian' .  THere are several live cd's that come with a great number of 'rescue' tools
[06:35] <wiseKid> when i installed vmware i got errors, and the same ones when i try to install software after that
[06:35] <xyz-abc> oh... so dban is NOT a cool abbreviation for debian.. :D
[06:35] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  :) yep.
[06:35] <noel> Greetings folks. I am trying to install sysexxer from the console, and I get the message "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:35] <Flannel> jacquesmerde: I don't know.  I don't believe you have to hunt them down yourself, so I... imagine it does.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !info dban
[06:35] <Flannel> noel: you need 'build-essential'
[06:35] <ubotu> Package dban does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:36] <t35t0r> !info mpich2
[06:36] <ubotu> Package mpich2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:36] <mhemu> flannel, I've tried installing it from the add/remove programs, didn't work properly. I also downloaded the files seperately and that was a no go too. I just did a fresh install of edgy 6.10. Could you provide me with a failsafe way to get it going?
[06:36] <t35t0r> !info mpich
[06:36] <Flannel> !wifi | jacquesmerde, this HowTo might help (if it says "grab your windows drivers!" then you know it doesnt
[06:36] <ubotu> Package mpich does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:36] <ubotu> jacquesmerde, this HowTo might help (if it says "grab your windows drivers!" then you know it doesnt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:36] <noel> Flannel, what is build essential?
[06:36] <xyz-abc> !info dban
[06:36] <ubotu> Package dban does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:36] <frick> http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[06:36] <cables> !build-essential
[06:36] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:36] <mhemu> I'm a day in to using ubuntu as well, so just a heads up...i'm a noob
[06:36] <cables> xyz-abc, dban is a livecd for wiping hard drives
[06:37] <t35t0r> hahaha
[06:37] <intelikey> Flannel was the "try failsafe" the only thought you had on this ?      i kinda hoped that was just an information gathering question...            ?
[06:37] <cables> mhemu, just came back to the channel, have you got flash working yet?
[06:37] <Flannel> mhemu: install flash from the repositories.
[06:37] <xyz-abc> thank you guys, you've been awesome
[06:37] <t35t0r> cables, so i can just put it in my cd and it will wipe everything?
[06:37] <cables> !flash | mhemu
[06:37] <ubotu> mhemu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:37] <hk-ref> you can get flash 9 from the adobe flash website.
[06:37] <cables> t35t0r, My guess is it's got a confirmation thingy
[06:37] <jacquesmerde> !ndiswrapper
[06:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:37] <Flannel> hk-ref: It's in the repositories
[06:37] <cables> hk-ref, not a great idea, better to get it from the repoos
[06:37] <t35t0r> ahh what's the fun of that
[06:38] <cables> t35t0r, you can probably customize an insta-wiping version
[06:38] <t35t0r> great i'll take it to walmart
[06:38] <hk-ref> cables, ive had no problem with it.
[06:38] <xyz-abc> cables, so after dban wipes out everything, i can install windows on it?
[06:38] <cables> hk-ref, it's better to install anything from the repos if they're there.
[06:39] <cables> xyz-abc, why can't you install windows on it in its current state?
[06:39] <Flannel> mhemu: use a package manager to install flash7 (that's in edgy/dapper multiverse, 'flashplugin-nonfree'), then go to packages.ubuntu.com, and grab the flash file out of -backports (download the .deb file), then install that locally with dpkg
[06:39] <cables> xyz-abc, the windows installer should detect the drive and let you reformat it
[06:39] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, do dice...still dont see the access point...or rather access point invalid
[06:39] <xyz-abc> i wish, cables
[06:39] <xyz-abc> i wish
[06:39] <jimmygoon> So is Ubuntu going to support the xbox 360?
[06:39] <xyz-abc> i screwed things up big time
[06:40] <sybariten> oooh even more active than the linuxhelp channel
[06:41] <sybariten> gotta ask here too then, and i'm not actually doing an immoral thing since its a ubuntu machine that this concerns
[06:41] <wiseKid> jimmygoon: i think microsoft just made an update that wont allow the user to use their own OS
[06:41] <Anohaakten_> yay jimmygoon!
[06:41] <jimmygoon> wiseKid: http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZFuEEVZFQIvqoMAC.php
[06:41] <vidd_laptop> anyone else get the bcm43xx acess invalid thing fixed?
[06:41] <sybariten> does anyone know how to add an SSH filesystem to MC?  i am using midnight commander on one machine and want another machine to appear in one of the panes, as a filesystem
[06:41] <jimmygoon> Anohaakten_, whats up?
[06:42] <Anohaakten_> haha, its me Gnarley190, just saying Hey
[06:42] <wiseKid> guess i read the wrong article
[06:42] <wiseKid> or misinterpreted it
[06:42] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what might cause a system to log you into a terminal even when you select 'gnome' or 'failsafe gnome'  ?
[06:42] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, that didnt work
[06:42] <Anohaakten_> vidd_laptop: it didnt?
[06:42] <mhemu> flannel: can i just grab the file from the backport and use that, or do i need to get it from add/remove software first?
[06:42] <Anohaakten_> vidd_laptop: thati s exactly waht I did
[06:42] <killer_> I just installed ubuntu 6.10 and I open a terminal, and vi doesn't work. I press "i" for insert mode, then press down arrow and the screen prints a "B" for every down arrow, what is broken?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> killer_,  nothing is broken
[06:43] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, should i format and reinstall clean first?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> killer_,  vim is using 'vi' compatiabilty mode.
[06:43] <Flannel> mhemu: you should install the one from the repos firt
[06:43] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, i had a faile attempt before
[06:43] <Flannel> killer_: the vim included is vim-tiny, you should install the full vim for all the features
[06:43] <Dr_willis> killer_,  try  :set nocp
[06:43] <mhemu> Flannel, by repos and repositories you mean add/remove app correct?
[06:44] <adjioev_> i thought vim is installed by default?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Flannel,  it is? heh.. never noticed that.
[06:44] <killer_> Dr_willis: compatibility mode for what? I've been using it for years on x86 computers
[06:44] <irunwithscissors> what is the command to open a craphical text editor, instead of gedit?
[06:44] <Anohaakten_> no no no vidd_laptop that would not make a difference
[06:44] <irunwithscissors> graphical**
[06:44] <Dr_willis> killer_,  the compatiable with the original VI
[06:44] <Anohaakten_> I guess just keep searching for solutions vidd_laptop
[06:44] <Flannel> irunwithscissors: gedit is the GUI editor
[06:44] <adjioev_> try gvim
[06:44] <Dr_willis> killer_,  which would do exactly that with the arrow keys.
[06:44] <mhemu> Flannel, like i said, i'm a noob, so i apologize for the easy questions
[06:44] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, when did you do it and what version did you do it on
[06:44] <adjioev_> sudo apt-get install gvim
[06:44] <Flannel> mhemu: You'll want to go through synaptic, I'm not sure it's in Add/Remove
[06:44] <intelikey> irunwithscissors gedit is graphical.
[06:44] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, maybe i should use dapper?
[06:44] <Flannel> !multiverse | mhemu, this is how you activate multiverse
[06:44] <ubotu> mhemu, this is how you activate multiverse: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:45] <intelikey> irunwithscissors abiword ?
[06:45] <Anohaakten_> vidd_laptop:  nope that would not make a difference, I am using edgy
[06:45] <irunwithscissors> intelikey: earlier in here i saw some people talking about a different command, and i was hoping to use it as when i am trying to open /boot/grub/menu.lst under su, it says that it cannot display the file.
[06:45] <killer_> Dr_willis: ok.. so I have apparently installed "more" vi after installing 6.01, since I've never seen this issue
[06:45] <adjioev_> how can i play flv files?
[06:45] <killer_> Dr_willis: well aside from a freeBSD box recently
[06:45] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, can you fill me in? whats up?
[06:45] <vega-> what's the difference between compiz and beryl really?
[06:46] <intelikey> irunwithscissors su ?     or sudo ?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> killer_,  its just the way the default Vim stuff is under ubuntu/kubunt and some other disrtos.
[06:46] <irunwithscissors> su
[06:46] <jimmygoon> beryl is less stable, easier to config and has more features
[06:46] <intelikey> there in lies the problem irunwithscissors
[06:46] <jimmygoon> compiz is the stable meat and potatoes
[06:46] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, im trying to get bcm43xx to run
[06:46] <killer_> Dr_willis: thanks for your time
[06:46] <irunwithscissors> ok
[06:46] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, i get access point invalid
[06:46] <campo> Hi, anyone have a suggestion for viewing .rm (real media) files in ubuntu edgy 6.1
[06:46] <Dr_willis> killer_, vi /etc/vim/vimrc   ------ and read its comments. :) right at the top
[06:46] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop : Anohaakten_ was it you that I worked with ndiswrapper on?
[06:46] <intelikey> irunwithscissors and use gksudo for gui apps
[06:46] <xyz-abc> hey guys, how come ubuntu can handle so few file formats intially?
[06:46] <irunwithscissors> ok i got it, thanks.
[06:47] <Anohaakten_> yes vidd_laptop jimmygoon knows what he is talking about, im still a rookie to ubuntu
[06:47] <vega-> Jurgeni: ok, thanks, that was just the kind of info i was looking for
[06:47] <kelsin> xyz-abc: cause they aren't free formats
[06:47] <Anohaakten_> jimmygoon no
[06:47] <jimmygoon> xyz-abc, codecs copyright, patent issues...
[06:47] <xyz-abc> so...
[06:47] <xyz-abc> i know
[06:47] <kelsin> xyz-abc: they have patent issues
[06:47] <jimmygoon> Anohaakten_, okay... I get mixed up easily... vidd_laptop : what do you mean by bcm43xx???
[06:47] <xyz-abc> so of course you guys all have special apps that can handle all the formats though, right?
[06:47] <jimmygoon> the driver bcm43xx? what is the wireless card name you are working with? model number, etc?
[06:47] <cables> !vlc | xyz-abc
[06:47] <ubotu> xyz-abc: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:47] <xyz-abc> i know !vlc ;)
[06:47] <Anohaakten_> jimmygoon: its cool, I know you deal with many people
[06:48] <kelsin> xyz-abc: yes, most apps can, just have to install the codecs, most can be installed easily to by enabling the universe repos etc
[06:48] <Dr_willis> of coruse MS got sued to the tune of 1.5B  over mp3 patent stuff. :)
[06:48] <intelikey> irunwithscissors there are several text based editors that would work in a bad environment   nano is devault   vim  emacs  ...
[06:48] <xyz-abc> what about quicktime and realplayer formats?
[06:48] <Flannel> xyz-abc: check out the Restricted Formats page
[06:48] <Flannel> !restricted | xyz-abc
[06:48] <ubotu> xyz-abc: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:48] <mhemu> Flannel, ok, grabbed it from the repos, installed it, now i'm installing the newest version from the back thingy
[06:48] <xyz-abc> k
[06:48] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, wireless ntework card bcm4306  installed the firmware, set up network-admin, iwconfig STILL shows access point invalid
[06:49] <joe4444> is it possible to upgrade from xubuntu to ubuntu?
[06:49] <intelikey> Dr_willis do you have any thoughts on what might break gnome so that only a terminal would open ?
[06:49] <Flannel> joe4444: not an "upgrade", but yeah, install "ubuntu-desktop"
[06:49] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, Anohaakten_ pointed me here: http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=148474 followed the instructions, no luck
[06:49] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  not really - try a new user - see if it works for them
[06:49] <Flannel> intelikey: do you get nothing in your logs?
[06:49] <intelikey> Dr_willis this is not the "highly customized" box that i normally run.
[06:49] <joe4444> Flannel, so the system "core" is the same... xubuntu just lacks some packages included with ubuntu?
[06:50] <intelikey> Flannel not that i have found.
[06:50] <Anohaakten_> vidd_laptop:  that is exactly what I did to get my wireless working
[06:50] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, lets see if we can't find something that doesn't involve firmware and compiling :S
[06:50] <joe4444> all i need to do is "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[06:50] <usurp> WHERE CAN I GET SERIALS FOR WMWARE?
[06:50] <Flannel> joe4444: Right, It's just a different GUI environment
[06:50] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, it seems like the card is WORKING, just not able to access my network
[06:50] <Flannel> joe4444: sudo, but yeah
[06:50] <joe4444> excellent
[06:50] <jimmygoon> usurp: wrong place to ask that question. pm me if you are registered
[06:50] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop: what have you done so far?
[06:50] <joe4444> damn cd-rw can't burn ubuntu edgy iso for some reason but xubuntu edgy worked
[06:50] <Dr_willis> usurp,  the vmware homepage.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> usurp,  you fill out a questionare.. get serial #'s for free
[06:51] <Flannel> joe4444: Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu (the desktop environments) all are part of "Ubuntu" (the Linux distro), and you can have all three coexisting on a single linux install (because they all share the same core)
[06:51] <intelikey> Flannel ah maybe one.   from gdm logs error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[06:51] <mhemu> flannel, worked like a charm, thanks a bunch...but now for some reason opera doesn't seem to be able to access java. DOH!
[06:51] <kelsin> usurp: if you want ones to run the free verions of their software it's right on their site
[06:51] <Dr_willis> usurp,  may want to read the docs they got also. :)
[06:51] <mhemu> gg youtube
[06:51] <joe4444> Flannel, so the only real difference is the GUI?
[06:51] <Flannel> !java | mhemu, instructions for opera (scroll down), er, ifI remember
[06:51] <ubotu> mhemu, instructions for opera (scroll down), er, ifI remember: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:51] <Flannel> joe4444: that's precisely the difference
[06:51] <xyz-abc> another question: any of you here use wine or cedega/
[06:51] <Shadow_mil> anyone here read this article http://consumer.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTI5OCwxLCxoY29uc3VtZXI=
[06:51] <joe4444> k, thanks
[06:51] <omeil_> Dr_willis, wow can't even finish boot camp 0_0
[06:51] <joe4444> now hopefully i can get this stupid cd-rw to boot a cd
[06:51] <omeil_> Dr_willis, :D lol
[06:51] <kelsin> joe4444: yes, and some default apps to work better with the distros, installing the other desktop package takes care of all of it
[06:52] <t35t0r> yes it should have said 30 days with ubuntu not linux
[06:52] <l2s> hello, how would one load a megaraid_legacy driver for a server trying to run ubuntu 6.06 server
[06:52] <Flannel> joe4444: and, with the Desktop Environments, comes different apps (KDE uses Kate, Ubuntu uses Gedit, Xubuntu uses mousepad, etc)
[06:52] <kelsin> xyz-abc: I use wine to run WoW, War3, Starcraft all the time
[06:52] <Dr_willis> omeil_,  actually i think i kept dieing doing the paratoooper thing.
[06:52] <t35t0r> l2s, by compiling the module
[06:52] <xyz-abc> ok, so it DOES work then :D
[06:52] <kelsin> xyz-abc: I refuse to use cedega and luckily I have no reason to
[06:52] <joe4444> great, thanks guys
[06:52] <l2s> huh
[06:52] <xyz-abc> why do u refuse to use it?
[06:52] <omeil_> Dr_willis, :) understandable
[06:52] <campo> Hi, anyone have a suggestion for viewing .rm (real media) files in ubuntu
[06:52] <l2s> The server is not online yet so no way to compile the module
[06:52] <t35t0r> how does one view a real media file?
[06:52] <Flannel> !real | campo
[06:52] <ubotu> campo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <Dr_willis> xyz-abc,  i refuse to play most any of the pc games out now a days. :) games are for the weak.
[06:52] <kelsin> xyz-abc: cause they charge money for stuff that should be fed back into wine
[06:52] <Flannel> t35t0r: see that page too (restricted formats)
[06:52] <intelikey> Dr_willis no not for newly created users either.
[06:52] <campo> ty
[06:53] <xyz-abc> well... u dont have to buy cedega
[06:53] <xyz-abc> im pretty sure u dont
[06:53] <t35t0r> heh nm i know how to do it
[06:53] <kelsin> xyz-abc: if you want to compile from source
[06:53] <xyz-abc> technically u have to
[06:53] <t35t0r> no format is restricted for me!
[06:53] <kelsin> xyz-abc: it doesn't even matter, I don't need it
[06:53] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, what have you done so far?
[06:53] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, downloaded the bcm43xx-cutter app and installed....ran the script to get and install the firmware, modprob bcm43xx, wnt to network-admin to input the data needed for my network[including a static IP] , rebooted and now i have a steady blue light, iwconfig says access point invalid, and i cannot connect via wireless...only wired
[06:53] <xyz-abc> well I'm probably gonna need it
[06:53] <omeil_> WTF!!! :D
[06:53] <xyz-abc> i think i'm enjoying ubuntu.. but i've had a rocky start
[06:53] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, sorry...i type slow
[06:53] <omeil_> Sorry, there is no operating system.
[06:53] <intelikey> ok the reason it can't open that file is.  /bin/ls: /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy: No such file or directory
[06:53] <omeil_> Please try to install FreeDOS from dosemu-freedos.
[06:54] <vidd_laptop> and i didnt want to leave anything out
[06:54] <jimmygoon> did you install network-manager-gnome?
[06:54] <Flannel> omeil_: you need to reinstall GRUB
[06:54] <Flannel> !grub | omeil_, first link
[06:54] <ubotu> omeil_, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:54] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, did you install network-manager-gnome?
[06:54] <omeil_> xyz-abc: everyone has a rocky start for there first time
[06:54] <intelikey> even /etc/X11/xserver is missing
[06:54] <kelsin> xyz-abc: yeah if you want to run DirectX games without OpenGL options in linux you'll need it currently until wine catches up (soon)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i rember seeing a similer thing ages ago.. but not sure why, or what the problem/fix was
[06:54] <l2s> theres no way to download the module ?
[06:54] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, no....im running xubuntu.....is it REALLY needed?
[06:54] <omeil_> Flannel: no ubuntu works :D thats what it says when i try to start dosemu from terminal :)
[06:54] <xyz-abc> k, kelsin
[06:54] <a686578> hello, can someone recommend me a good MSN messenger client for ubuntu linux?
[06:54] <Flannel> intelikey: Well, you could reinstall ... whatever you're missing.
[06:54] <xyz-abc> GAIM!!
[06:54] <vidd_laptop> it dont seem to acually DO anything
[06:54] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, probably not...
[06:54] <adjioev_> gaim?
[06:55] <adjioev_> or aMSN
[06:55] <a686578> other than gaim?
[06:55] <intelikey> Flannel what provides /etc/X11/xserver/*  ?
[06:55] <xyz-abc> dunno then :D
[06:55] <a686578> which is better of the two? gaim or amsn?
[06:55] <t35t0r> aim
[06:55] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, i only have WEP on the network
[06:55] <omeil_> id go gaim
[06:55] <a686578> thanks
[06:55] <kelsin> a686578: yeah I've heard gaim was being wierd with msn recently, I've heard amsn is probably better
[06:55] <xyz-abc> hey guys, i've been learning a bit of C++ lately, what are the chances of me being able to continue the learning on ubuntu?
[06:55] <adjioev_> i like gaim so u can configure icq msn and jabber togeather
[06:55] <Flannel> intelikey: You'd have to check.  You can look at packages.ubuntu.com (scroll down to the second fieldset)
[06:55] <intelikey> this was a clean install only hours ago
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ls  /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ls: /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy: No such file or directory
[06:55] <a686578> kelsin: exactly why im asking
[06:55] <omeil_> cause u can run numerous accounts at once
[06:55] <adjioev_> dont have any problems
[06:55] <a686578> too many issues
[06:55] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, umm... I'm not sure if... do you have wpasupplicant/
[06:55] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  that files not on my ssyte, anywere
[06:55] <adjioev_> aMSN is pure for MSN service
[06:55] <kelsin> xyz-abc: easily, install the build-essential packages and you'll get the gcc compiler and libraies to compile c++ programs
[06:56] <omeil_> gaim is running fine for me
[06:56] <kelsin> a686578: that's what I've heard, I don't use it, and the sites I read that on say use amsn
[06:56] <a686578> more features for MSN with amsn?
[06:56] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, no....and i dont use wpa on my network either
[06:56] <xyz-abc> aha.. i guess i'll have to ditch Visual Studio 2005 though, right?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> locate SecurityPolicy -------->  /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/SecurityPolicy
[06:56] <kelsin> xyz-abc: yes definately
[06:56] <jimmygoon> hmm
[06:56] <xyz-abc> hmmm
[06:56] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, what exactly does it say?
[06:56] <adjioev_> i use msn only for chat so gaim is more then enough
[06:56] <jimmygoon> can you pastebin it?
[06:56] <jimmygoon> !paste > vidd_laptop
[06:57] <intelikey> eeek   grep /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list   drew a blank.
[06:57] <vidd_laptop> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/87870-bcm43xx-installed-but-know-working-correctly.html
[06:57] <omeil_> Anyone here know alot about CDEMU?
[06:57] <vidd_laptop> this is my forum post with all my info
[06:57] <xyz-abc> it so happens i have ubuntu 6.10 installed on another, old pc (that I'm using right now), are there any games (besides the somewhat boring default ones) available?
[06:57] <intelikey> would someone else check that and see if you hit pay dirt ?
[06:58] <t35t0r> xyz-abc, there are lots of dinky linux games
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Intangir,  that file is not there on my working system.. apt-file search isent finding it either.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> oops..
[06:59] <vidd_laptop> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/87870-bcm43xx-installed-but-know-working-correctly.html   jimmygoon let me know if you need more info
[06:59] <adjioev_> try tux games
[06:59] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, I'm really not too sure what could be the problem but it seems to be at least one person's opinion that those drivers aren't good :S
[06:59] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, Are you willing to try ndiswrapper?
[06:59] <omeil_> Dr_willis you know anything about CDEMU?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> intelikey,   ,  that file is not there on my working system.. apt-file search isent finding it either.
[06:59] <intelikey> then why is gdm whining about it ?    and that's the only error in all my logs
[06:59] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, wireless is more important right now to me then "pure linux"
[06:59] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  here we go...   xserver-xgl: usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy        xserver-xorg-core: usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/SecurityPolicy
[06:59] <kelsin> xyz-abc: I havn't tried to many of the free games, but if you have windows disks for quake 1,2 or 3 or ut2004 you can play those in linux nativly
[06:59] <SnakesAndStuff> my startup splash screen seems to be in the wrong resolution and displays in unusual colors... what do I need to do/read to fix this?
[07:00] <ss_> how can i check the kb/s bandwidth going through a network device at a moment in time?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i saw some similer issue ages ago.. may be worth a look in the wiki..
[07:00] <mhemu> flannel, i have java going and it works with firefox...just no dice with opera. do i need to do what you just suggested with the backports and all?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> or forums
[07:00] <Anohaakten_> vidd_laptop what kind of wireless card do you have?
[07:00] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, heh, ndiswrapper is less pure - ndiswrapper is a way of using a windows driver to connect with linux -- it might work better
[07:00] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, the dapper instructions for blacklisting the bcm43xx driver still work?
[07:00] <intelikey> Dr_willis ok   thanks for the heads up on that.
[07:00] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, I have no idea
[07:00] <t35t0r> been using ndiswrapper with broadcom forever ..not switching to the kernel driver!
[07:00] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, bcm4306
[07:00] <kelsin> ss_: this might not be what you wanted, but gkrellm, the gnome panel system-monitor or other programs like conky can display that
[07:01] <t35t0r> conky is the best
[07:02] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340689&highlight=bcm4306
[07:02] <intelikey> ok folks i got it.
[07:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis Flannel anyone else that might want to know.    no write permission on /dev/null   chmoded it and everything is working now.
[07:03] <xyz-abc> ok thanks a lot, everyone! bye
[07:04] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  egads... that sounds familer also...
[07:04] <intelikey> so udev is misconfigured on the ubuntu dapper live CD install....
[07:04] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, awesome howto =] 
[07:04] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  heh.. i bet its not actually a null device any more.. see ifyou can 'cd' into /dev/null
[07:04] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, Anohaakten_ tyvm for your time
[07:04] <canllaith> hey, can anyone tell me what the default kernel version is in ubuntu edgy ?
[07:04] <noodles12> how do i mount an .iso image?
[07:04] <jimmygoon> vidd_laptop, hope its helpful, not sure how experienced you are, but you might try it wihtout compiling ndiswrapper from source, I can't REALLY imagine its necessary..
[07:04] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  that sounds like it..
[07:05] <intelikey> -bash: cd: /dev/null: Not a directory
[07:05] <intelikey> hmmmm -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 383 2007-03-09 00:03 /dev/null
[07:05] <l2s> can someone help me ewith the alternative cd rom q
[07:05] <t35t0r> someone run uname -a for me
[07:05] <intelikey> not charictor nor block device though
[07:05] <omeil_> why?
[07:05] <l2s> ubuntu 6.10 desktop installs on the raid, but 6.10 server, 6.06 server, and 6.10 alternative does not
[07:05] <roe> t35t0r, on what type of system
[07:05] <vidd_laptop> jimmygoon, its in the repo's[i think] 
[07:05] <t35t0r> ubuntu edgy
[07:05] <jimmygoon> yup
[07:06] <Anohaakten_> no problamo vidd_laptop
[07:06] <omeil_> is there any image mounting programsthat actually work. i have tried acetoneiso and cdemu and both die on me
[07:06] <roe> t35t0r, sorry no edgy here
[07:06] <t35t0r> someone run uname -r on ubuntu edgy and show output
[07:06] <intelikey> what's the null device supposed to look like ?
[07:06] <Anohaakten_> Im a newbie to linux myself, I know its tough at first, but youll grasp it!
[07:07] <omeil_> whats edgy
[07:07] <omeil_> isn't edgy. ubuntu 6.10?
[07:07] <intelikey> Dr_willis you are correct it was a regular file.
[07:07] <omeil_> 2.6.17-11-generic
[07:07] <jimmygoon> gnight all
[07:07] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  heh ya did a cat /dev/null ?
[07:07] <eshaase> i'm trying to get the bmpx music player to work but whenever i try to add a folder i get the following: No HAL Volume/Device Infromation for this File... anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[07:07] <Anohaakten_> later mr goon
[07:07] <vidd_laptop> the thing is...im NOT that new....it was working fine...but i had to re-install after a botched fiesty install Anohaakten_
[07:07] <dfgas> are there any precompiled kernels for dapper that is 2.6.19 or better?
[07:07] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me where to get edgy?
[07:07] <t35t0r> eshaase, ya stop using gnome
[07:08] <jimmygoon> cute_bettong, ubuntu.com
[07:08] <eshaase> t35t0r: hehe, cute
[07:08] <t35t0r> eshaase, and get vlc
[07:08] <omegacenti> I'm having a problem, is it possible to add space to an already existing ext3 partition?
[07:08] <eshaase> t35t0r: vlc?
[07:08] <intelikey> Dr_willis no just   file null
[07:08] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:08] <Dr_willis> well good luck intelikey .
[07:08] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:08] <intelikey> gnight
[07:08] <vidd_laptop> Anohaakten_, this of course is the reason you test onBACKUP hardware!
[07:08] <omeil_> i just love that compile a kernel game -_-
[07:08] <Anohaakten_> lol
[07:09] <Anohaakten_> sure thing vidd_laptop
[07:09] <vidd_laptop> peace out Anohaakten_
[07:09] <supaben34> Hello all, got a question about my ubuntu setup here at home
[07:10] <supaben34> I am trying to configure my wireless connection and before it allows me to see the configuration settings, the administrative window is supposed to come up
[07:10] <supaben34> it never does
[07:10] <omeil_> I hypothetically speaking. what if blizzard creates world of warcraft 2 on linux only :) , I wonder if heaps of window users just isntantly change OS lol :D not that there is gonna be a WOW 2
[07:10] <supaben34> it stays minimized on the taskbar
[07:10] <adjioev_> i had this problem before
[07:10] <killer_> in nautilus every folder I click I have to continue to click View -> details, I'm not finding where to set it to behave as set currently
[07:11] <adjioev_> i reinstalled ubuntu and got it back... noobs solution
[07:11] <Hive> flannel, i'm back! flash is working, i can see videos and stuff from youtube, but now i can't hear sound. Any thoughts? My sound works properly, get the startup sound and all when I fireup the system and get into ubuntu
[07:11] <dxdt> omeil_, interesting idea.  An idea that the killer app has switched from something useful like a good spreadsheet to an MMORPG
[07:11] <killer_> maybe I'm just expexting too much from gnome
[07:11] <supaben34> I need another solution adjioev
[07:11] <arrenlex> I am installing openSUSE :O Take that, ubuntu!
[07:11] <supaben34> i got too many things on my Linux setup here
[07:11] <Hive> killer_, there's a setting you're overlooking
[07:12] <kelsin> killer_: you mean View as list instead of icons?
[07:12] <omeil_> that would just kill M$ lool
[07:12] <billy> Greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[07:12] <supaben34> anyone got any other ideas?
[07:12] <killer_> Hive: I'm sure there is, but the point being.. I didn't find it
[07:12] <Hive> killer_, go to edit/preferences and you can set the default view there
[07:12] <t35t0r> billy, i'm not an ant
[07:12] <killer_> kelsin: yes
[07:12] <adjioev_> i know but sometimes it appears. try to restart several times maybe ull get it back
[07:12] <kelsin> yeah, Edit -> Prefernces. on the View tab
[07:12] <omeil_> Dosbox is the shiznat
[07:12] <billy> t35t0r: from here, you sure look like one.
[07:12] <SnakesAndStuff> my startup splash screen seems to be in the wrong resolution and displays in unusual colors... what do I need to do/read to fix this?
[07:13] <omegacenti> I'm having a problem, is it possible to add space to an already existing ext3 partition?
[07:13] <adjioev_> if you solve this problem please let me know
[07:13] <t35t0r> omegacenti, yes
[07:13] <t35t0r> e2online
[07:13] <killer_> Hive:  hmm.. well then it will make me do the opposite.. if I am in a directory and View->icons, everything I click will then turn to a list, will it not?
[07:13] <billy> Anyone else having problems with Firefox (and only firefox) spilling over the screen slightly.  As in, the scroll bar is difficult to click on.
[07:13] <Hive> Can anyone give me a hand? I can't seem to get sound working in flash videos. Just got flash installed, the video plays fine but there's no sound playing. My sound works in other apps and situations, just not the videos
[07:13] <omegacenti> t35t0r: What if the if the ext3 partition is near the end of the disk and there is free space in the middle of the disk that you want to add to the ext3?
[07:14] <dxdt> billy, yes, but only when I am running Desktop effects (XGL+ wobbly windows that sorta thing)
[07:14] <killer_> I would prefer to set it and NOT CHASE it until I close and  reopen nautilus
[07:14] <t35t0r> omegacenti, it can't extend the partition without lvm
[07:14] <Hive> killer_, no idea, haven't gotten that far into my ubuntu/gnome usage. I'm kinda in the same situation you are, I want some folders as a detailed list, and some as icons....
[07:14] <omegacenti> !lvm
[07:14] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:14] <usurp> do i have to install the Virtual OS inside vmware to use wmware??????
[07:14] <kelsin> killer_: when I change one view to list, and double click on an item, the next one pops up as icons (my default) again
[07:14] <billy> dxdt: yes, I'm running those very things.  hmm.....
[07:15] <dxdt> billy, yeah then I think it is just a bug with XGL then, I noticed it too.
[07:15] <kelsin> usurp: well... if you want to run windows in vmware you have to install windows in it, yes or download a already made vmx (but you obviously can only find those for free oses)
[07:15] <dxdt> billy, it doesn't happen when I'm not running them--if I just switch back to no XGL and what not.
[07:15] <billy> dxdt: oops.  I'm running the AIGL (I think it's labeled).  Maybe just the wobbly windows?
[07:15] <killer_> Hive: it would be sensible if it just displayed in the current view settings
[07:16] <killer_> kelsin: yeah.. same problem I'm fighting
[07:16] <billy> dxdt:  well, it's not too much of a prob.  I can scroll with the scroll button on the mouse.  just wondering if anyone else had the same prob.
[07:16] <Hive> killer_, it would, yes. something similar to windows file options setup, but I didn't design it so what can i do....if you find a solution, let me know
[07:17] <dxdt> billy, not sure.  I would doubt it.  I'm running XGL with Beryl on top.   Are you running Beryl or Compiz on top of AIGLX?  If you are running Compiz and AIGLX, then the problem is even deeper than the the 3d stuff because at that point we would have the same problem for different forked versions
[07:17] <billy> dxdt:  ever have a problem with Beryl stopping for no apparent reason?
[07:17] <abasinisvacant> can someone give me a few tips on how to use gtk-gnutella?
[07:17] <koregaonpark> Hey, can anyone tell me if it's possible to upgrade to Edgy from the CD instead of the 'net?
[07:17] <billy> dxdt:  AIGLX + Beryl
[07:17] <omegacenti> t35t0r: If it does have LVM, and the ext3 partition is at the end, and the free space is towards the beginning, can I add the space to the etx3?
[07:17] <killer_> I'm probably going to end up in KDE again.. gnome works me too hard, I own a computer so repeated activity is automatic, not me repeating things.. heck that's the microsoft way
[07:17] <dxdt> billy, haha yeah, a while back an update smashed it for me and it didn't work for me again until just recently.  Before that I had no problems, but now I have problems often, actually.
[07:17] <omeil_> OH YEAH!! got quake 1 working with DOSBOX lol
[07:17] <omegacenti> omeil_: Links Now!
[07:18] <magnushc> why is nestropia
[07:18] <billy> dxdt:  usually all I have to do is restart beryl.  But I wonder why it stops in the first place.  ??
[07:18] <magnushc> why is nestra window so small
[07:18] <omegacenti> omeil_: I have wanted to play that game for so long, mind if I send you a pm?
[07:18] <t35t0r> omegacenti, i don't know if you can add an existing ext3 partition to an lvm ..you should be able to
[07:18] <koregaonpark> omeil_, that's pretty cool. I need to try DOXBox soon.
[07:18] <koregaonpark> Hey, can anyone tell me if it's possible to upgrade to Edgy from the CD instead of the 'net?
[07:18] <kelsin> quake1 works natively also
[07:18] <Hive> anyone? sound doesn't play in flash videos such as those on youtube...
[07:18] <t35t0r> omegacenti, but if you can you can do what you want
[07:18] <omegacenti> t35t0r: lol I am just checking cause it didn't seem possible when I tried.
[07:18] <billy> koregaonpark:  sure.  just open the CD in your repository list in Synaptic.
[07:18] <dxdt> Hive, which version of flash are you using?  9?
[07:19] <t35t0r> omegacenti, you may be able to do it with the ext2online thing
[07:19] <Hive> dxdt, yes, just got flash working actually
[07:19] <billy> koregaonpark:  and turn OFF all the actual repositories.
[07:19] <kelsin> omeil_: quake 1 2 and 3 are all open source (the engines) so if you have the data files you can play them in linux nateivly
[07:19] <clouder`grr> Switching the view in Gnome worked fine for me.  The only quirky things were that windows that I explicitly set to icon view remained in icon view and the setting only fully took effect when I made the change and closed all Nautilus windows
[07:19] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Can you backup ubuntu and put it on another partition and have no problems running it?
[07:19] <omeil_> yeah i know
[07:19] <dxdt> Hive, I had all sorts of sound issues with earlier versions, but they went away with version 9.  Not sure I'm gonna be able to be much help then...
[07:19] <t35t0r> omegacenti, you can backup anything by putting it on another partition
[07:19] <koregaonpark> billy, okay, I'll just give it a shot. Open the CD in the rep. list in Synaptic and turn off all the real sources?
[07:19] <t35t0r> omegacenti, just dd it if you want
[07:20] <omegacenti> t35t0r: But can it run on the other partition.
[07:20] <kelsin> killer_: yeah natilus should remember your settings in a certain folder so when you return to the same folder it's the same setting, but doesn't seem to have a setting for what you want, even in the gconf settings
[07:20] <omeil_> but it took me nearly 2 hours to get quake 3 installed with all the problems i run into lol
[07:20] <t35t0r> omegacenti, yeah why not?
[07:20] <kylequamme> anyone have issues with the newest nvidia driver?
[07:20] <Hive> dxdt, i used the repositories to get flash 7x and then i got flash 9x from the backports, as someone suggested in here
[07:20] <billy> koregaonpark:  never tried it myself.  only theory.  I don't see how it could break anything though.
[07:20] <omegacenti> t35t0r: BEcause I am from the windows world, and partitions are evil there.
[07:20] <omeil_> and just google dosbox and in the download page there is the source package for linux and just compile it
[07:20] <t35t0r> there are always issues with drivers
[07:20] <r00t_> cables, you still here?
[07:21] <omeil_> sound works to
[07:21] <OMGLAZERS> Anyone know a good GUI-based backup system for linux? There's a few available, I just dont know if anyone here maybe has some experience with some of them?
[07:21] <kylequamme> hah, yea, i suppose
[07:21] <koregaonpark> billy. ha, okay. It's not like I have anything important on here anyway.
[07:21] <kylequamme> i'm getting a resource conflict
[07:21] <t35t0r> who needs a gui with cron and rsync ?
[07:21] <billy> If you can run Beryl fine in GNOME, will it work fine in KDE if you are freshly installing it?
[07:21] <billy> koregaonpark:  it just MIGHT be a first.  :)
[07:22] <r00t_> youstill have to use the XMl session to use it
[07:22] <mhemu> can someone tell me how i can get gdesklets and gmailnotify to run on startup? I'm a noob so I'm gonna need someone to spell it out for me...
[07:22] <r00t_> sorry wrong box
[07:22] <r00t_> cables, you still here?
[07:22] <OMGLAZERS> t35t0r, Some people aren't very good with the terminal; plus I need to pick and choose on specific files and folders
[07:22] <billy> mhemu:  add those commands to >system>preferences>sessions>startup programs.
[07:22] <cables> r00t_, yep, just got back
[07:22] <mhemu> billy, muchas gracias
[07:22] <r00t_> cables, cool. I just though i would let you know that i got it fixed
[07:22] <billy> mhemu:  es no problema.
[07:23] <cables> r00t_, good
[07:23] <koregaonpark> billy, you think there might be wiki page on this?
[07:23] <omeil_> do i need to boot into xgi to run the beryl themes?
[07:23] <t35t0r> OMGLAZERS, what's the backup medium?
[07:23] <omegacenti> t35t0r: For me it would be DVD's
[07:23] <OMGLAZERS> t35t0r, Just wanna take a snapshot of my root and put it onto a seperate physical drive
[07:23] <Flannel> koregaonpark: you need the alternate CD, and yeah, it's on the Upgrade page
[07:23] <dxdt> Hive, if you go here, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ and then click about on the Flash test thingy that comes up, does it say you are on version 9?  maybe version 7 is still being used somehow?
[07:23] <omegacenti> !snapshot
[07:23] <pwnzorz> wubi no worky!!...
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <billy> koregaonpark:  seems like something like that ought to have been mentioned at least once on ubuntuforums.org.  Go there and do a search.  "upgrade CD only"
[07:23] <t35t0r> OMGLAZERS, rsync, dd
[07:24] <t35t0r> omegacenti, k3b
[07:24] <omegacenti> !k3b
[07:24] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:24] <Flannel> !backup
[07:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:24] <koregaonpark> Flannel, billy: gotcha.
[07:24] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Can it go directly to dvd and not make an archive on disk first?
[07:24] <koregaonpark> Flannel, I have the alternate CD.
[07:24] <TronBonne> How can I rename files through the terminal en masse just to remove a prefix thats attatched to their filenames?
[07:24] <dxdt> I'll add my vote to k3b, I used it just earlier to burn a dvd of something
[07:24] <Geoffrey2> oh, are there any ATI cards that work decently under Ubuntu?
[07:24] <TronBonne> I need a quick answer
[07:24] <t35t0r> omegacenti, yea why not?
[07:24] <OMGLAZERS> t35t0r, I prefer to avoid the terminal if I can on it :\
[07:24] <noodles12> i am currently using vmplayer in ubuntu to boot my existing xp installtion. It currently has internet access but not access to my lan. Is there a way to set it up so the vmware OS has access to the same LAN as the host OS ?
[07:24] <bjv> t35t0r: dd abuser. use find & something, cpio
[07:25] <t35t0r> heh rsync
[07:25] <pwnzorz> why doesn't wubi work!
[07:25] <omegacenti> t35t0r: /me is very new to Linux / backups/.
[07:25] <Flannel> koregaonpark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  Last bit of "upgrading via update-manager"
[07:25] <fer> hi
[07:25] <pwnzorz> could you install linux on a pen driver =)
[07:25] <t35t0r> yes
[07:25] <r00t_> Geoffrey2, I have a ATI radeon 9550. works very well
[07:25] <koregaonpark> Thanks, Flannel... opening...
[07:25] <pwnzorz> awesome
[07:25] <billy> Flannel: i think koregaonpark wants to upgrade with the CD only.
[07:26] <Flannel> billy: right, its almost identical to the normal one, and on the same page
[07:26] <pwnzorz> i wonder how much money you could get sellin ubuntu pen drives...
[07:26] <t35t0r> pwnzorz, you can take it put qemu on the pen drive and run it on a windows box
[07:26] <t35t0r> pwnzorz, alot
[07:26] <billy> Flannel:  oh.  i see.  good work.
[07:26] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Can it automate the DVD process, something like: "Please insert next dvd and hit enter."?
[07:26] <fer> Does anyone know of a network scanner for linux?
[07:26] <fer> my Ubuntu didnt come with one
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'm gonna install it on a tower with a Radeon 7000
[07:26] <pwnzorz> i should seriously do it!
[07:26] <t35t0r> omegacenti, k3b? no the cli utils yes
[07:26] <koregaonpark> billy, yeah, I only wanna use the CD. Have a slow-ass connection.
[07:26] <t35t0r> omegacenti, cdrecord/dvdrecord/etc
[07:26] <omegacenti> cli utils?
[07:26] <pwnzorz> become the next linux billlonaire!
[07:26] <omeil_> how do i use beryl?
[07:26] <omegacenti> !dvdrecord
[07:26] <kelsin> TronBonne: for i in *; do mv $i `echo $i | sed 's/prefix//'`; done
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <pwnzorz> who would like to buy a ubuntu pendrive install!!!?
[07:26] <Flannel> omeil_: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[07:27] <t35t0r> pwnzorz, clueless folks
[07:27] <Dark_Clon> nada en espaol aqui
[07:27] <Flannel> pwnzorz: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter, thanks
[07:27] <Flannel> !es | Dark_Clon
[07:27] <ubotu> Dark_Clon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:27] <kelsin> TronBonne: if all the files are in the current directory, and in "prefix" you might have to backslash some stuff
[07:27] <billy> omeil_ : what u wanna do with it?
[07:27] <pwnzorz> sry flannel didn't know =)
[07:27] <koregaonpark> Flannel, if I follow this, don't I have to turn off the repositories first?
[07:27] <fer> where do i go for Ubuntu-network scanners?
[07:27] <kelsin> change the "mv $i" to "echo" if you want to test what it will change them to
[07:27] <r00t_> Geoffrey2, good luck. it should work well
[07:28] <pwnzorz> i actually do have a question, i tried uninstalling my fglrx drivers in recovery mode (screwed it up somehow) and now ubuntu won't load!
[07:28] <billy> fer:  open the terminal and type "sudo apt-cache search network scanners".  Or open Synaptic and perform the search there.
[07:28] <Flannel> koregaonpark: Nope.  Just do that command (the one on the page)
[07:28] <pwnzorz> i think i used adept...
[07:28] <t35t0r> pwnzorz, throw your ati card in the trash
[07:28] <r00t_> have you tried recovery mode yet?
[07:28] <pwnzorz> teftor: grrrrrrr
[07:28] <dxdt> pwnzorz, probably just have to go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from fglrx to ati and you will probably be good to go
[07:28] <omeil_> billy: set one of the themes
[07:28] <koregaonpark> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade", right, Flannel?
[07:28] <r00t_> what ati card you have?
[07:29] <pwnzorz> dxdt: thats what i thought, i don't how to restore it...
[07:29] <Flannel> koregaonpark: yeah, that's the one
[07:29] <billy> omeil_ : do you have the red diamond in your notification tray?
[07:29] <Geoffrey2> oh, does Ubuntu have to be in any particular spot on the hard drive?  I remember FreeBSD was picky about where the partition started on the physical hard drive
[07:29] <Flannel> koregaonpark: you don't need to, because of version numbers.  All the Dapper stuff will be lower than the Edgy stuff, even with the repositories active.
[07:29] <t35t0r> Geoffrey2, no
[07:29] <omeil_> billy: yup
[07:29] <pwnzorz> dxdt: i also already uninstalled the fglrx... how does that work?
[07:29] <koregaonpark> Flannel: Ah, okay, makes sense.
[07:29] <Jaymz> pwnzorz: you should still be able to boot to a terminal without the fglrx drivers
[07:29] <koregaonpark> Flannel: I'm getting this message: "Fetch data from the network for the upgrade?"
[07:29] <TronBonne> gives a bunch of "target is not a directory"
[07:29] <dxdt> pwnzor press ctrl+alt+f1  log in, then nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  find the line reading fglrx and then use ati in its place.  (fglrx is the driver from ATI  the codeword ati is the open source free driver)
[07:29] <r00t_> Geoffrey2, I think that is is fine anywhere as long as grub is installed when you load ubuntu up
[07:30] <Flannel> koregaonpark: say... no.  I imagine ;)
[07:30] <billy> omeil_ : right-click on it and select "Emerald Theme Manager".  As you click on different themes, the appearance on your screen will change automatically.
[07:30] <koregaonpark> Flannel, okay...
[07:30] <pwnzorz> Jaymsz i know that... thats how i got to the terminal package manager... ;)
[07:30] <t35t0r> ati is not an xorg drive
[07:30] <t35t0r> radeon
[07:30] <omeil_> i click but nothing changes
[07:30] <pwnzorz> t35t0r: thanks for pointing out the obvious, now help me with the problem...
[07:30] <kelsin> TronBonne: are all the files you want to change in your current directory?
[07:30] <t35t0r> change fglrx to radeon in that file
[07:30] <dxdt> either works if I recall.  ati or radeon  one links to the other or something like that
[07:30] <kelsin> TronBonne: and can you paste the line you ran?
[07:30] <r00t_> I have a cheao Radeon 9550 and it works with Ubuntu and Beryl
[07:31] <billy> omeil_ : open a terminal and type "emerald --replace".
[07:31] <koregaonpark> Flannel, just started the upgrade.
[07:31] <pwnzorz> t35t0r: so it doesn't matter that i uninstalled the proprietary drivers...
[07:31] <t35t0r> pwnzorz, if you uninstalled them then it won't work
[07:31] <pwnzorz> t35t0r: so whats the dri that the xorg.conf is again ;)
[07:31] <billy> omeil_ : be sure that beryl is actually running as well.  type "beryl" in the terminal.
[07:31] <dxdt> It sholdn't matter unless yo happen to have one of those cards that ONLY wants the proprietary ones.  For example, I ran my laptop for months without the fglrx drivers
[07:32] <whyameye> one of my systems is reporting 0 swap memory total, available, and free from the "free" command. How can I look further into why I have no swap memory? I definitely have a swap partition etc.
[07:32] <dxdt> man I can't type tonight
[07:32] <Jaymz> pwnzorz: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:32] <pwnzorz> dxdt: if the windows lag alot in ubuntu does taht mean i need 'em or is that a ubuntu glitch... cuz it pisses me off...
[07:32] <t35t0r> whyameye, cat /proc/swaps
[07:32] <kelsin> whyameye: is it listed in your /etc/fstab?
[07:32] <mhemu> dxdt, that worked. guess flash 9 wasn't installed properly, sound and video both work. thanks bro!
[07:32] <TronBonne> for i in *; do mv $i `echo $i | sed 's/System\ Shock\ \-//'`; done
[07:32] <mhemu> still can't get java working in opera though...
[07:32] <dxdt> mhemu, no problem
[07:32] <whyameye> t35t0r: cat /proc/swaps returns nothing.
[07:33] <omeil_> billy: i typed emerald --replace and the terminal is just sitting there doing nothing
[07:33] <billy> whyameye: make sure there is no UUID for your swap in your fstab file.
[07:33] <pwnzorz> dxdt: and my mouse isn't recognized for the longest time, that also pisses me off...
[07:33] <mhemu> dxdt, you wouldn't happen to know how to get opera to play nice with java?
[07:33] <t35t0r> whyameye, grep swap /etc/fstab
[07:33] <billy> omeil_ : it's not supposed to do much.  did you type "beryl" as well?
[07:33] <UbuntuAnon> Automatix seems to be down
[07:33] <koregaonpark> Flannel, billy... thanks, the upgrade is going great.
[07:33] <UbuntuAnon> And so is UbuntuGuide.org
[07:33] <whyameye> t35t0r: here's that line: /dev/md2        none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:33] <billy> koregaonpark:  good to hear.  Tell us how it goes.
[07:33] <t35t0r> cat /proc/mdstat
[07:33] <kelsin> TronBonne: pur quotes around both file names so like this: for i in *; do mv "$i" "`echo $i | sed 's/System\ Shock\ \-//'`"; done
[07:33] <TronBonne> k
[07:34] <billy> koregaonpark:  you're upgrading from Dapper to Edgy?
[07:34] <pwnzorz> how come everyone seems to ignore me when i've got a serious ubuntu gltch i mentioned!
[07:34] <t35t0r> swapon /dev/md2
[07:34] <t35t0r> cat /proc/swaps
[07:34] <omeil_> Detected xserver : NVIDIA
[07:34] <omeil_> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[07:34] <omeil_> Checking for XComposite extension : failed
[07:34] <omeil_> No composite extension
[07:34] <pwnzorz> ...might as well put it in bugzilla...
[07:34] <TronBonne> thanks
[07:34] <UbuntuAnon> pwnzorz: Because no one has an idea of how to fix it?
[07:34] <pwnzorz> ah
[07:34] <pwnzorz> thanx
[07:34] <koregaonpark> billy, yes. From a fresh Dapper install to Edgy because I want Firefox 2.0 and Exaile.
[07:34] <billy> omeil_ : open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:35] <whyameye> t35t0r: swapon /dev/md2 returns "invalid argument"
[07:35] <pwnzorz> have you ever heard of the said ubuntu lag glitch?
[07:35] <|PiP|> will 7.04 come bundled w/ Rails ready-to-go?
[07:35] <dxdt> mhemu, you know, I remember that a little bit happening to me and I don't think I ever did find a good solution.  I think once opera found Java fine and the other time I installed it, it didn't... or something silly like that.  Sorry, I got no help for that one.
[07:35] <UbuntuAnon> pwnzorz: Repeat, I just joined
[07:35] <t35t0r> whyameye, is cat /proc/mdstat showing md2 is alive?
[07:35] <Jaymz> pwnzorz: are you running beryl?
[07:35] <omeil_> billy: yup
[07:35] <Jaymz> or.. were you, i mean..
[07:35] <whyameye> t35t0r: yes it is alive (active).
[07:35] <Shadow_mil> xorg keeps on segment faulting
[07:35] <billy> omeil_ : i'm curious.  did you follow the howto at ubuntuforums.org.
[07:36] <UbuntuAnon> What lag is he talking about?
[07:36] <omeil_> billy: do i need to be logged in as xgi?
[07:36] <kelsin> |PiP|: isn't Rails a package in edgy already?
[07:36] <t35t0r> can you put a swap on a raid partition like that?
[07:36] <Jaymz> UbuntuAnon: he says his windows are lagging.. but he can't get into X right now anyway
[07:36] <t35t0r> mkswap /dev/md2
[07:36] <UbuntuAnon> How can the windows "lag" ?
[07:36] <t35t0r> swapon /dev/md2
[07:37] <Jaymz> you'd have to ask him
[07:37] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, they don't render fast enough.
[07:37] <whyameye> t35t0r: it is supposed to be /dev/md1. I think this is the problem.
[07:37] <omeil_> billy: i did the wiki hotwo
[07:37] <dxdt> UbuntuAnon, they tear, I know what he means actually.  Not sure of the solution, though.  It happens to me if I use AIglx
[07:37] <t35t0r> i hope you didn't mkswap the wrong partition
[07:37] <t35t0r> that would be bad
[07:37] <UbuntuAnon> Metacity issue or Beryl if he uses it
[07:37] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, happened to me when I installed Edgy on an older computer. Maybe he needs to install Xubuntu...
[07:37] <whyameye> t35t0r: I didn't use mkswap. Didn't need to.
[07:37] <MTecknology> I disabled IPv6 through the !IPv6 tutorial... I need to re-enable it so I commented everything in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list and restarted but IPv6 still isn't enabled
[07:37] <UbuntuAnon> Yeah I think thats the best solution koregaonpark
[07:37] <billy> omeil_ : you need to have that program running.  I think that you need to uninstall and then go to ubuntuforums.org and follow this howto step by step.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[07:37] <fer> what is the channel for beryl?
[07:37] <UbuntuAnon> pwnzorz: Go with xubuntu instead
[07:37] <whyameye> t35t0r: I did sudo swapon /dev/md1
[07:37] <billy> fer : #beryl
[07:38] <fer> thanks
[07:38] <dxdt> fer, ubuntu-effects is also probably helpful
[07:38] <billy> no prob
[07:38] <fer> sweet, thanks ^2
[07:38] <billy> fer, I'd recommend ubuntu-effects though, as dxdt mentioned.
[07:38] <kylequamme> here is my xorg config error:
[07:38] <OMGLAZERS> !nvidia
[07:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:38] <MidgetKiller> billy, i use beryl and i love it
[07:38] <UbuntuAnon> !aiglx
[07:38] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[07:38] <kylequamme> (EE)NVIDIA(0): Resources conflicts detected
[07:39] <UbuntuAnon> !glx
[07:39] <whyameye> how do I find out from command line how much disk space I have left?
[07:39] <kylequamme> anyone know what would do this?
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <t35t0r> df -h
[07:39] <dxdt> beryl has sooo many plugins wow.  I seriously wasted like an hour and a half just playing with them
[07:39] <omeil_> billy: do i need to uninstall my nvidia drivers?
[07:39] <koregaonpark> !nvidia
[07:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:39] <billy> MidgetKiller:  yeah it's really cool.  Especially good for wow'ing folks.  Sometimes it crashes on my system, but all I have to do is retype "beryl" in a run line.
[07:39] <whyameye> t35t0r: so if I just edit my /etc/fstab to make the swap line put to /dev/md1 instead of /dev/md2 and reboot, my problem should be solved?
[07:39] <UbuntuAnon> billy: Why not beryl-manager?
[07:40] <UbuntuAnon> With 'beryl' you would also have to include 'emerald --replace' after the crash
[07:40] <rsunny> I have been running Berly on my pC for a week now. Never had a crash, and has been running non-stop for a week
[07:40] <dxdt> UbuntuAnon, that's not recommended right now.... beryl-manager will crash my xorg actually..... I am forced to do beryl at the moment.  I think something got brokens in the code
[07:40] <rsunny> beryl-manager
[07:40] <t35t0r> whyameye, well on consecutive reboots ..you don't have to reboot just because you changed it
[07:40] <kylequamme> !resource conflicts
[07:40] <billy> omeil_ : I don't think so.  That's not mentined anywhere in the howto.  Just uninstall beryl.  do it through synaptic and do completely remove.
[07:40] <t35t0r> whyameye, the swap takes effect instantly after you swapon
[07:40] <dxdt> rsunny, I used to go months without crashes and then all of a sudden I've been really crash happy
[07:40] <t35t0r> whyameye, cat /proc/swaps
[07:41] <omegacenti> What does this mean?  kdar:  Depends: libdar3c2a  but it is not installable
[07:41] <omegacenti> Got that from Synaptic
[07:41] <UbuntuAnon> dxdt: Get Trev's Repositories, then reinstall beryl : sudo apt-get --reinstall install beryl
[07:41] <whyameye> t35t0r: /dev/md1                                partition       979832  624     -1 seem reasonable?
[07:41] <billy> UbuntuAnon:  I don't know why I don't have to type beryl-manager over.  The red diamond never disappears in the tray.  And it always comes back with a simple beryl command.
[07:41] <t35t0r> whyameye, yes 1gb swap
[07:41] <dxdt> UbuntuAnon, Trev's?
[07:41] <omeil_> billy: but thats how i installed beryl
[07:41] <dxdt> UbuntuAnon, right now I use the official Beryl ones....?
[07:42] <whyameye> t35t0r: I'm just wondering if I need to edit /etc/fstab so the change is permanent (still works on reboot).
[07:42] <dxdt> what's the difference I guess?  I've never even heard of the other one
[07:42] <UbuntuAnon> Yeah Trevino
[07:42] <rsunny> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn : This is what i use
[07:42] <t35t0r> whyameye, yes you do
[07:42] <rsunny> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn And this
[07:42] <billy> omeil_ : Yes it is.  Syn*APT*ic is just the GUI front-end for the apt-get command.
[07:42] <Cauda_Draconis> How does one fix xorg.config from the command line?
[07:42] <UbuntuAnon> !trevino
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trevino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <t35t0r> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <UbuntuAnon> rsunny: That's the one
[07:42] <t35t0r> pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <UbuntuAnon> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/
[07:43] <rsunny> UbuntuAnon : Try re-installing beryl
[07:43] <billy> omeil_ : you really need to carefully follow the howto in that link that I gave you.  don't worry about uninstalling beryl.  Just go to that link and follow the howto.
[07:43] <omeil_> k
[07:43] <UbuntuAnon> rsunny: I'm not in need of reinstallation
[07:43] <rsunny> apt-get --reinstall install beryl
[07:43] <rsunny> Sorry  that was for another guy
[07:43] <rsunny> :)
[07:43] <UbuntuAnon> Yes for dxdt
[07:44] <billy> rsunny:  he needs to make sure he's using the ubuntu beryl repositories, not just any old repositories.
[07:44] <dxdt> I don't know that I want to use daily svn snapshots, thought
[07:44] <dxdt> though
[07:44] <UbuntuAnon> dxdt: Using those would be a better solution though
[07:44] <omegacenti> Would anyone mind checking if Kdar has dependency problems in Synaptics?
[07:44] <whyameye> t35t0r: thank you. You have been very helpful.
[07:44] <omegacenti> In other words I am having problems downloading Kdar. Could anyone help?
[07:44] <rsunny> Agree with Anon completelky, i also had a Crash Happy Bery, now now.
[07:45] <rsunny> And once you are up n runing, there are some small tweaks which will make it fast too
[07:45] <billy> omeil_ : did you catch that?  be sure you're using the beryl repositories listed in that howto.
[07:45] <omeil_> yup
[07:45] <omeil_> those are the ones
[07:45] <Cauda_Draconis> I broke x-windows. How does one fix it from the command-line interface?
[07:45] <dxdt> interesting
[07:45] <UbuntuAnon> omegacenti: Yes there are quite a few dependencies
[07:45] <koregaonpark> billy, omeil_, have you considered Automatix?
[07:46] <billy> omeil_ : ok man.  i think you're on the right track.  i don't use nvidia.  i use intel.  so there's only so far I can help you.
[07:46] <UbuntuAnon> omegacenti: try "sudo aptitude install kdar"
[07:46] <t35t0r> Cauda_Draconis, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:46] <UbuntuAnon> DO NOT use Automatix
[07:46] <Cauda_Draconis> ok
[07:46] <Cauda_Draconis> thanx
[07:46] <UbuntuAnon> I don't even know why they made Automatix
[07:46] <billy> koregaonpark:  I was councelled not to use Automatix.
[07:46] <rsunny> dxdt : This is off-topic but in the beryl-setting manager, Try disabling these : Sync to Vblanc, Detect Refresh Rate, Set the manual Rate to 200
[07:46] <UbuntuAnon> It will eventually drive people away from Ubuntu
[07:46] <rsunny> that actually has helped me
[07:46] <t35t0r> what is automatix
[07:46] <Cauda_Draconis> what does the "nano" command do, t35t0r?
[07:46] <t35t0r> open a text editor
[07:46] <dxdt> nano is a text editor
[07:46] <omegacenti> UbuntuAnon: synaptic says it cannot resolve the dependencies
[07:46] <dxdt> a simple one
[07:46] <Cauda_Draconis> ahhhh
[07:47] <omeil_> beryl opens but when i click on one of the themes nothing happens
[07:47] <kelsin> !automatix
[07:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <Cauda_Draconis> thanx
[07:47] <omeil_> and no i haven't considered automatix
[07:47] <dxdt> unlike vim and emacs which are more complex but way more powerful
[07:47] <t35t0r> you rpolly want sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <t35t0r> sudo freaks
[07:47] <koregaonpark> billy, I have also heard that Automatix is not ideal, but hey... it works.
[07:47] <UbuntuAnon> Whats wrong with sudo?
[07:47] <adjioev_> works for me
[07:47] <rsunny> Whst the problem with Sudo?
[07:48] <omegacenti> UbuntuAnon: Well, it just said it couldn't resolve dpendencies, and gave up. Any other suggestions?
[07:48] <UbuntuAnon> In fact why not use 'gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?
[07:48] <t35t0r> it's an extra 5 letters i have to type
[07:48] <UbuntuAnon> Much easier to navigate
[07:48] <billy> koregaonpark:  I think it was designed for Dapper, or something.  I think that Edgy may be a whole different flavor potato chip.
[07:48] <t35t0r> alias sudo 's'
[07:48] <dxdt> lol
[07:48] <omeil_> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed that dosen't sound good
[07:48] <kelsin> omegacenti: even packages.ubuntu.com says that package isn't availabe, very odd :-(
[07:48] <omeil_> thats what i get in the terminal when i type beryl
[07:48] <rsunny> kelsin, which package are you looking for?
[07:49] <UbuntuAnon> t35t0r: Yes but without sudo the user will not be able to save the file, even after editing it
[07:49] <omegacenti> kelsin: Its the exact frickin thing I NEED.
[07:49] <omegacenti> kelsin: GRrrrrrr.
[07:49] <omegacenti> rsunny: I need kdar.
[07:49] <omeil_> runs if i click the beryl icon tho...must be a nvidia problem
[07:49] <UbuntuAnon> omegacenti: No clue sory
[07:49] <kelsin> rsunny: omegacenti wants to install kdar and libdar3c2a isn't found
[07:49] <koregaonpark> billy, I installed Beryl on Edgy with Automatix and it worked perfectly. It is by far the easiest way to install Beryl, but no recommended by the Beryl team...
[07:49] <koregaonpark> not*
[07:49] <UbuntuAnon> billy: Automatix is for Edgy as well
[07:49] <kelsin> !worksforme
[07:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:50] <UbuntuAnon> But Automatix will eventually screw up your system
[07:50] <rsunny> lemme try dude. u on Dapper/Edgy?
[07:50] <billy> UbuntuAnon:  didn't know that.  I hear conflicting things about Automatix, so I stay away.
[07:50] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon: why is that
[07:50] <UbuntuAnon> Use Automatix to install loads of software, and then wait to update to Feisty, you will likely run into problems
[07:50] <omegacenti> rsunny: I am on edgy
[07:50] <kelsin> Bottom line is Automatix isn't supported here, and if there are problems you're probably screwed
[07:51] <UbuntuAnon> Yes indeed
[07:51] <koregaonpark> kelsin, oh okay...
[07:51] <UbuntuAnon> I think Automatix just keeps the user away from learning
[07:51] <UbuntuAnon> Not like its doing anything THAT difficult that a user would not be able to do themselves otherwise
[07:51] <omegacenti> UbuntuAnon: Ignorance is bliss? :)
[07:51] <UbuntuAnon> No
[07:51] <t35t0r> UbuntuAnon, the whole point of using ubuntu is not to learn!
[07:51] <rsunny> Kelsin, i can give you a workaound
[07:51] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, a lot of novice and non-tech savvy users don't need to learn how to add repositories. It's an effort getting them to drop Windows for Ubuntu....
[07:52] <omegacenti> rsunny: Its me who needs the workaround.
[07:52] <OMGLAZERS> Can someone assist me in installing nvidia drivers? I believe I may have done it incorrectly last time and screwed up. One of the first steps involves getting the linux-restricted modules and in it it says '...if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work'. I'm currently running the generic I believe; how do I change so I don't screw up installing the drivers?
[07:52] <UbuntuAnon> Automatix will screw up the system, and "Windows to Ubuntu" converts would assume that Ubuntu is just as buggy as windows, and "switch back" to Windows only because they are used to it
[07:52] <rsunny> Ok Omega,
[07:52] <billy> omeil_ : you're having a compositing problem.
[07:52] <koregaonpark> t35t0r is right
[07:52] <rsunny> get the lib package from dapper
[07:52] <kelsin> rsunny: omegacenti wants it, not me
[07:52] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: I agree, read above
[07:52] <t35t0r> ubuntu wants to be osx
[07:52] <UbuntuAnon> t35t0r: Then there is no point of you to be here neither
[07:52] <rsunny> Add this in your apt sources "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[07:52] <UbuntuAnon> ubuntu wants to be ubuntu
[07:52] <t35t0r> UbuntuAnon, heh why?
[07:52] <rsunny> apt-get update
[07:52] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, but you agree with me that there needs to be an easier way, even if it is not Automatix?
[07:52] <mhemu> dxdt, i fixed the opera/java issue. seems that the plugin didn't make it into the opera plugin dir and it wasn't recognizing the one in the firefox plugins dir either. had to make a new link and manually copy it over to opera
[07:53] <rsunny> apt-get install lidbar
[07:53] <kelsin> Plus honestly automatix was useful a while ago when java was hard to isntall etc, all that has changed. I install nvidia drivers and java with two commands now (or one), the packages have worked perfectly for me at least :)
[07:53] <rsunny> remove the line,
[07:53] <rsunny> again update
[07:53] <rsunny> install kdar
[07:53] <omegacenti> rsunny: Where is that apt sources again?
[07:53] <billy> t35t0r : no.  os.x has a sleek look that people like.  some people make ubuntu look like it.  i don't.  your point is moot.
[07:53] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Why not have a feature of Ubuntu wipings ones arse as well?
[07:53] <koregaonpark> kelsin, try telling that to my 40 year old aunt.
[07:53] <t35t0r> billy, the goal is the same
[07:53] <UbuntuAnon> OSX isnt sleek
[07:53] <t35t0r> billy, i'd rather use linux
[07:53] <billy> ubuntuAnon:  it's an *opinion*.
[07:54] <UbuntuAnon> Agreed
[07:54] <rsunny> omega ,
[07:54] <UbuntuAnon> OSX is liked only by comparison
[07:54] <MTecknology> Can somebody tell me why I can load web pages at a decent speed in Windows, but lookup time takes forever in Ubuntu 6.10?? - IPv6 is disabled...
[07:54] <joe4444> i have 2 hard disks: one 80gb and one 120gb... i thought ext3 would treat these as one disk, sort of like RAID0... should i just install ubuntu on the 80gb then format the 120gb later?
[07:54] <rsunny> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.llist
[07:54] <rsunny> list
[07:54] <billy> t35t0r : you're right.  the goal *is* the same : to have a desktop customed to the user.
[07:54] <rsunny> sorry
[07:54] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if opening synaptic, select the nvidia and java packages and clicking ok is too hard, then she is no one to install a OS in the first place (no offense meant of course)
[07:54] <UbuntuAnon> If a user finds out about OSX and compares it to windows, they go "Wow its sleek"
[07:54] <billy> did omeil_ go away ?
[07:54] <OMGLAZERS> Can someone assist me in installing nvidia drivers? I believe I may have done it incorrectly last time and screwed up. One of the first steps involves getting the linux-restricted modules and in it it says '...if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work'. I'm currently running the generic I believe; how do I change so I don't screw up installing the drivers?
[07:54] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon: It doesn't matter what OS X is or isn't, we're trying to get users to switch to Ubuntu Linux to make life easier for them (no viruses, spyware etc.). People don't want to learn how to do anything.
[07:54] <UbuntuAnon> If a user knows... Beryl for example, looking at OSX, one goes "thats it?"
[07:54] <OMGLAZERS> billy, He left
[07:55] <billy> OMGLAZERS: try this link.  it's for beryl, but it includes nvidia drivers.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[07:55] <UbuntuAnon> kelsin: I agree
[07:55] <DeL3e7> i love beryl but its still buggy as heck
[07:55] <UbuntuAnon> !nvidia
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:55] <kelsin> Does installing nvidia-glx and changing xorg.conf to say nvidia to nv not work for others, that's ALL i ahve to do in ubuntu and debian (as long as I have the universe and multiver repos on ubuntu)
[07:55] <billy> maybe he's getting help elsewhere.
[07:55] <koregaonpark> kelsin, she isn't the one installing the OS, but she'll be using it on a day to day basis, and if she calls me asking how to install something, wtf am I supposed to say? Ubuntu is not for you? You need to figure out repositrories and packages? Go back to Windows?!!!!!
[07:55] <KaiHanari> what are some good rgb web cam apps that are command line, to snap an image, and can do YUV, JPEG, or RGB w/ the option of BGR->RGB conversion
[07:56] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: You need to teach him how to use Google and then he can fish for the rest of his life on his own
[07:56] <t35t0r> yes if only the world knew how to search
[07:56] <billy> koregaonpark:  Synaptic is really easy to use.  Just show her how to use the search command.  Simple.
[07:56] <t35t0r> things would be more efficient
[07:56] <kelsin> koregaonpark: well I was thinking you were refering to my comment about installing nvidia and java is easy, in that case you tell her to click on "Add and Remove Programs" cause hopefully you already added universe, and honestly no aunt needs to install ANYTHING that isn't in the default ubuntu repos
[07:57] <kelsin> KaiHanari: I bet the image magick tools can do the converting... maybe, havn't done that with them
[07:57] <t35t0r> playing a dvd on the default repos?
[07:57] <UbuntuAnon> Its easier to install certain stuff in Ubuntu than it is in Windows
[07:57] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, people don't have the time to go looking for solutions and ways to make things work. We are trying to get Ubuntu adopted by the mass market here....
[07:57] <t35t0r> well you can't play a dvd in windows either
[07:57] <kelsin> t35t0r: exactly
[07:57] <koregaonpark> kelsin, well, Add/Remove is easy enough...
[07:57] <UbuntuAnon> Who is we?
[07:57] <rsunny> Who says you can play a DVD off the shelf in Windows?
[07:57] <t35t0r> but most windows that come packaged come with a dvd player
[07:58] <DeL3e7> without googling for free/tail warez
[07:58] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if that means make it a not-free distro, then I disagree
[07:58] <DeL3e7> for hours
[07:58] <koregaonpark> kelsin, never said it should be not-free
[07:58] <kelsin> rsunny: I have the HARDEST time playing dvd's in windows cause I ussually end up priating some stupid dvd player
[07:58] <t35t0r> if you purchase a new computer with a dvd player it will come with dvd movie playing software
[07:58] <DeL3e7> yeah win32= pirate breeding ground
[07:58] <t35t0r> if you purchase a bundled dell or hp compaq whatever
[07:58] <kelsin> koregaonpark: well then.. the ONLY things people have problems with is nonfree stuff: nvidia, dvd playing, mp3 etc
[07:58] <omegacenti> rsunny: HAHA! it worked! thankyou! should I comment out that repository once kdar is finished installing?
[07:58] <rsunny> yes and do an apt-get update after commenting it out
[07:58] <joe4444> so mp3 DEcoders are illegal?
[07:58] <koregaonpark> kelsin, and I install alll of that while setting up a system...
[07:59] <t35t0r> joe4444, yes if unlicensed
[07:59] <DeL3e7> why cant i find mplayer in the repo's?
[07:59] <t35t0r> because it can do everything
[07:59] <billy> Del3e7 : do you have universe and multiverse repos activated?
[07:59] <UbuntuAnon> It can make babies too
[07:59] <DeL3e7> yup billy
[07:59] <[StingRay] > Hi all. Is there a way to make lspci show my sound device? Sound was working in windows.
[07:59] <joe4444> so... why are there so many free mp3 players for windows?
[07:59] <DeL3e7> im on 6.10
[07:59] <MTecknology> How can I fluch my TCP/IP stack?
[07:59] <koregaonpark> kelsin, keep in mind, the goal of Ubuntu wasto bring Linux to the masses, make it easy to use and install.
[07:59] <t35t0r> lspci | grep -i audio
[07:59] <MTecknology> flush*
[08:00] <billy> Del3e7 : open a terminal and type `apt-cache search mplayer`.
[08:00] <kelsin> koregaonpark: and it is, I'm confused at what you're saying now
[08:00] <t35t0r> MTecknology, /etc/init.d/network restart
[08:00] <billy> put sudo in front of it. :)
[08:00] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: I thought that was your goal
[08:00] <joe4444> t35t0r, see my q?
[08:00] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if you had a point I totally just lost it
[08:00] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, how is that my goal?
[08:00] <t35t0r> joe4444, they don't know the licensing laws
[08:00] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: You just stated that above
[08:00] <billy> Del3e7 : open a terminal and type `sudo apt-cache search mplayer`.
[08:00] <godmanliving> Hey, how is everyone tonight?
[08:00] <nalpha> in squid... what is the mean of 192.168.2.0/24 ?? what's the 24 for?
[08:00] <t35t0r> joe4444, there are lots of free ones for nix too
[08:00] <koregaonpark> kelsin, sorry, I mixed up yours and Anon's msges.
[08:00] <UbuntuAnon> "We are trying to get Ubuntu adopted by the mass market here...."
[08:01] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, but isn't that what Shuttleworth's goal has always been
[08:01] <kelsin> nalpha: the netmask, 24 out of the 32 bits define the subnet
[08:01] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon... and the rest of the community...
[08:01] <kelsin> koregaonpark: yes it is, are you saying we havn't met that, I think ubuntu is doing a great job of it
[08:01] <DeL3e7> whats a good pastebin sverer <fast>
[08:01] <MTecknology> t35t0r, ty
[08:01] <kelsin> nalpha: you commonly see a /24 netmask as: 255.255.255.0
[08:01] <UbuntuAnon> Are you speaking for everyone else or are you in the Ubuntu dev team?
[08:01] <kelsin> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:01] <t35t0r> rafb.net/paste
[08:01] <joe4444> t35t0r, winamp is huge... surely someone would shut them down if it's illegal... what i don't get is if there are free ones for linux why can't they be included (or at least hosted on an official repo) in linux distros?
[08:02] <t35t0r> joe4444, winamp is not free ...
[08:02] <koregaonpark> kelsin, I am not saying that goal has not been met, but I don't think saying "either you google for answers or get lost" is the right attitude we should have.
[08:02] <DeL3e7> hey billy http://rafb.net/p/Ap5m3d76.html
[08:02] <nalpha> kesin : more explain?
[08:02] <t35t0r> joe4444, they are ..use gentoo
[08:02] <joe4444> t35t0r, there is a free version
[08:02] <nalpha> kelsin : more explain?
[08:02] <nalpha> i;m using squid..
[08:02] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: People should at least read the FAQ
[08:02] <t35t0r> joe4444, or any other distro that doesn't care about patents
[08:02] <billy> DeL3e7 : i don't go to strange websites.  What is that?
[08:02] <koregaonpark> kelsin, people who don't even know how to use IRC are using Ubuntu...
[08:02] <joe4444> t35t0r, i've been using winamp for years... since before there was ever a "pay" version
[08:02] <DeL3e7> [astein of apt-cache search mplayer
[08:02] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: If they were able to come onto IRC for questions, surely enough one can read the FAQ or scan the web for basic guides
[08:02] <nalpha> kelsin : ow.. it's mean ip address using nemask 24 bit *255.255.255.0)
[08:03] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, it's not as easy as that...
[08:03] <UbuntuAnon> joe4444: There is one now, a "Pro" version
[08:03] <kelsin> nalpha: I have never used squid so I have no more information that could be of help
[08:03] <kelsin> nalpha: yes
[08:03] <t35t0r> joe4444, the patent holders didn't start flexing their muscles until later
[08:03] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, I said people who _cannot_ use IRC
[08:03] <DeL3e7> billy, its not goatse if thats what u mean
[08:03] <DeL3e7> lol
[08:03] <joe4444> t35t0r, i'm just trying to understand the situation... i know there is winamp "pro" now, but you can still get the free one that plays mp3s but doesn't burn cds... it even plays lots of video formats
[08:03] <billy> DeL3e7 : i didn't understand your previous message.  what did you say that website was?
[08:03] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Then how do they come asking for help if they arent using IRC nor websearch? You are running yourself into a corner
[08:04] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, kelsin, these are people who only use their computers to surf the 'net and write documents in OO.o writer.
[08:04] <t35t0r> joe4444, so ..you don't think nullsoft/aol pays licensing fees?
[08:04] <t35t0r> if you're making money off a product in any way you better pay
[08:04] <DeL3e7> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9397/  that better billy ?
[08:04] <Magic-Fx> Hey guys(n gurls)... I have kubuntu 6.10 on my box networked to a machine running windows vista and when i try to access the shared folders it asks for a username and password but it doesn't have one and when he tries to access my files it says the same thing
[08:04] <kelsin> koregaonpark: and for them ubuntu installs fine (normally and ANY normal hardware) and then all of that stuff is included, still confused about your point
[08:04] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, they ask me for help. I'm talking about local businesses and home users...
[08:04] <joe4444> t35t0r, well for years it was 100% free
[08:04] <kelsin> koregaonpark: they aren't trying ti install beryl or get WoW running in linux
[08:04] <koregaonpark> kelsin, the people using Ubuntu aren't installing it... at least not here.
[08:05] <billy> DeL3e7 : that address looks more trustworth, yes.  thanks. :)
[08:05] <joe4444> t35t0r, did they only have to start paying for a license when they added the "pro" version for a price?
[08:05] <kelsin> koregaonpark: I'm so confused, is there a point to this conversation?
[08:05] <DeL3e7> its sudo apt-cache search mplayer  and yes i do have all the repo's uncommented
[08:05] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Thus you have a point and click solution for them that is easier than Googling?
[08:05] <billy> DeL3e7 : sorry I'm such a prude. :)
[08:05] <koregaonpark> kelsin, and I'm not talking about running Windows apps under Wine or installing Beryl (even though that's how this discussion started)...
[08:05] <UbuntuAnon> kelsin: No point
[08:05] <t35t0r> joe4444, no ..when they saw that they had a large enough user base and that everyone else was making money off of online music
[08:05] <mdesouky> hi all
[08:06] <DeL3e7> im guessing the 6.10 release repo's dont have mplayer in there just yet
[08:06] <t35t0r> same time they started having online music, shoutcast wire, and aol media and all that stuff
[08:06] <kelsin> UbuntuAnon: thought not ;-)
[08:06] <mdesouky> I need help
[08:06] <UbuntuAnon> WoW should run "Ok" under Ubuntu
[08:06] <UbuntuAnon> IMHO
[08:06] <UbuntuAnon> Especially with Cedega
[08:06] <joe4444> t35t0r, so it just happened when fraunhofer (or whatever) decided to take action?
[08:06] <kelsin> WoW runs perfectly in normal wine
[08:06] <t35t0r> joe4444, yes
[08:06] <billy> DeL3e7 : that's looks interesting.  thank you.  i don't think i need all of those applications but I'll keep that in mind.
[08:07] <DeL3e7> but wtf, shouldnt mplayer be there
[08:07] <mdesouky> can somebody help me get sound out of my first linux box?
[08:07] <DeL3e7> should i add another repo?
[08:07] <t35t0r> DeL3e7, because it plays any format
[08:07] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, kelsin, my point is that non-tech savvy users should not be expected to understand repositories and packages, and how to use them... if they need to install Skype for example, they should just be able to download a file and install it, like they do on Windows. Obviously, Skype will never be added to the repositories by default...
[08:07] <joe4444> ...and codecs like LAME are only for encoding?  so none of those can offer free players?
[08:07] <godmanliving> Hey peoples, would anyone be able and willing to assist me with a problem related to grapical drivers/fglrx/beryl.  Ive tryed about 5 different guides and uninstallations/reinstallations and can't get beryl to work or the directrendering to say yes.
[08:07] <DeL3e7> but i want mplayer
[08:07] <DeL3e7> for some pointless noneed reason
[08:07] <t35t0r> godmanliving, fglrx sucks get an nvidia
[08:07] <rsunny> Del : Whats you issue?
[08:08] <DeL3e7> i just want mplayer
[08:08] <godmanliving> i have ati dirvers
[08:08] <godmanliving> and fglrx
[08:08] <DeL3e7> and mozilla--mplayer-plugin
[08:08] <mdesouky> I have an Nforce2 on an Asus A7n8X board
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: Add these reps :
[08:08] <rsunny> OK.. whats your distro? Dapper/Edgy?
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[08:08] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, kelsin...  I'm not sure you understand how novice some users are...
[08:08] <godmanliving> I dont really understand what fglrx is.
[08:08] <kelsin> koregaonpark: you think installing from a downloaded file is easier then using synaptic?
[08:08] <godmanliving> Edgy
[08:08] <mdesouky> can't get sound out of the spdif for the life of me
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: Then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:08] <billy> DeL3e7 : check your private message thingy.
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: Then sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:08] <t35t0r> godmanliving, it's a driver that ati's folks put together to say they have linux support
[08:08] <UbuntuAnon> Make sure you sudo it
[08:08] <koregaonpark> kelsin, yes... adding the Skype repository isn't something most novice users can do.
[08:09] <priich> Fraunhofer doesn't charge much for mp3 licenses anyway. Microsoft payed USD 16 million for it. Considering how many MS Mediaplayer's there are installed, that's damn cheap for a patent.
[08:09] <t35t0r> priich, 16million yuearly?
[08:09] <godmanliving> huh... interesting
[08:09] <kelsin> koregaonpark: unfortuantely that's in Skype's court, not for ubuntu to decide
[08:09] <koregaonpark> t35t0r, no one time.
[08:09] <t35t0r> koregaonpark, they are idiots
[08:09] <DeL3e7> i dont see any new windows billy
[08:09] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: Is that working out for you?
[08:10] <UbuntuAnon> Scroll up I gave you the solution
[08:10] <koregaonpark> kelsin, there's our problem. You cannot expect commercial software vendors to open source their apps just to be included in Synaptic on Ubuntu by default.
[08:10] <billy> look under the Ubuntu Servers.
[08:10] <Magic-Fx> Hey guys(n gurls)... I have kubuntu 6.10 on my box networked to a machine running windows vista and when i try to access the shared folders it asks for a username and password but it doesn't have one and when he tries to access my files it says the same thing
[08:10] <billy> right under #ubuntu you should see my name.
[08:10] <priich> t35t0r, no i believe it was a one-off.
[08:10] <DeL3e7> lemmie see UbuntuAnon
[08:10] <kelsin> koregaonpark: too bad for them, are you saying ubuntu should include them?
[08:10] <DeL3e7> i swear those repo'
[08:10] <DeL3e7> are already there
[08:10] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: What?! Girls?! WHERE?!
[08:10] <Magic-Fx> lol
[08:10] <UbuntuAnon> Are you sure its those ?
[08:10] <UbuntuAnon> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[08:10] <t35t0r> O_o girls on irc?
[08:10] <UbuntuAnon> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[08:10] <Magic-Fx> chix use irc
[08:10] <UbuntuAnon> Check the ending, the "universe multiverse" should be at the end
[08:11] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if Skype offers a deb package then uses can install it by clicking on the download link, so again I'm confused at your point
[08:11] <UbuntuAnon> And make sure there ISNT a # in front of it
[08:11] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Which one asks for a password? The vista or the kube?
[08:11] <UbuntuAnon> Double check
[08:11] <Magic-Fx> both
[08:11] <colorred> G.I.R.Ls
[08:11] <koregaonpark> kelsin, too bad for the USERS, not for Skype.  Don't you get my point? there needs to be an easy way for novice users to install software they need.
[08:11] <billy> DeL3e7 : looks like ubuntuanon has you covered.
[08:11] <UbuntuAnon> Then after you quadruple checked, do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:11] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: And only THEN "sudo apt-get mplayer"
[08:11] <kelsin> koregaonpark: so it's ubuntu's job to offer an EASIER way then synaptic??? If Skype packages it as a deb it IS that easy, how do you propose to make this any easier?
[08:11] <koregaonpark> kelsin, yeah.. I do think Skype should be included in multiverse...
[08:12] <t35t0r> where are these elusive irc girls
[08:12] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: For the kube end, that's a configuration error I might be able to help sort out... I don't know anything about vista.
[08:12] <DeL3e7> heh
[08:12] <billy> is Skype better tham GAIM?
[08:12] <koregaonpark> kelsin, including it would make it easier...
[08:12] <godmanliving> i have installed the ati drivers and beryl.  beryl is running but whenever I click beryl to use it as my window manager my screen flashs several times and then it goes back to metacity.  Am I not understanding how this is supposed to work?
[08:12] <arrenlex> billy: They are different things.
[08:12] <DeL3e7> LadyNikon,  is a gurl i think
[08:12] <t35t0r> skype has voice and video and phone
[08:12] <kelsin> koregaonpark: then if SKype's license allows it, go package it up
[08:12] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Oh come on a "deb" package is just like a Windows' "exe" how much EASIER do you expect it to be ?
[08:12] <t35t0r> gaim has a broken vv
[08:12] <billy> arrenlex: oh.  I thought skype was a IM.
[08:12] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: sweet; if u could help get it sorted i would be much appreciative :D :D
[08:12] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if it doesn't, again that's not ubuntu's fault
[08:12] <t35t0r> skype is an im
[08:12] <arrenlex> billy: Skype is a voip.
[08:12] <billy> oh.  silly billy.
[08:12] <t35t0r> skype is many things
[08:12] <UbuntuAnon> godmanliving: Do you have NVIDIA or ATI or other?
[08:12] <koregaonpark> but isn't multiverse for commericlal software anyway?
[08:13] <arrenlex> Magic-FX: Pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf please
[08:13] <godmanliving> ATI Anon
[08:13] <UbuntuAnon> !nvidia
[08:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:13] <koregaonpark> kelsin, I understand that... but we can't just say it's not our problem...
[08:13] <UbuntuAnon> Make sure to install the drivers first
[08:13] <kelsin> koregaonpark: yes but that doesn't mean Skype allows their stuff to be distributed not by them
[08:13] <kelsin> koregaonpark: yes we can
[08:13] <t35t0r> UbuntuAnon, having fun?
[08:13] <UbuntuAnon> t35t0r: With?
[08:13] <Absorto> hello! can I install 64studio's realtime-patched kernel on my ubuntu box?
[08:13] <t35t0r> !commands
[08:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:13] <kelsin> koregaonpark: Skype controls the rights to distribute their software, if they don't want ubuntu to put it in multiverse we can't
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: the whole thing?
[08:13] <DeL3e7> dang interesting suddenly that first 2 repo's have mplayer in em
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: its about 20 lines
[08:13] <joe4444> once ubuntu finishes installing it will have dual monitor support, right?  currently it's just showing the same image on both displays =/
[08:13] <DeL3e7> cool thanx
[08:13] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Yep. Upload it to pastebin and give me the link to it.
[08:13] <godmanliving> How can i clean up and remove ati/fglrx/berl and start fresh?
[08:13] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: Worked? God
[08:13] <koregaonpark> kelsin, i don't think that's the right attitude if we're trying to get ubuntu adopted by the masses.
[08:13] <priich> Skype is expensive and vendor lock-in. Rather have SIP or even the voice over XML-RPC that google does.
[08:13] <arrenlex> !pastebin | Magic-Fx
[08:13] <ubotu> Magic-Fx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <UbuntuAnon> Good*
[08:13] <koregaonpark> kelsin, ah okay...
[08:13] <t35t0r> joe4444, that's a feature of the driver not ubuntu
[08:14] <kelsin> koregaonpark: just like for a while sun's java wasn't and now it is
[08:14] <billy> boy this thing's moving quick.
[08:14] <kelsin> koregaonpark: it's not a choice we're making, it's the law
[08:14] <MidgetKiller> whats that billy?
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: ok 2 secs
[08:14] <billy> MidgetKiller:  the room.
[08:14] <joe4444> t35t0r, so i definitely need to find a new driver?
[08:14] <MidgetKiller> ah, hehe
[08:14] <UbuntuAnon> The screen is MidgetKiller
[08:14] <billy> the lines and stuff.
[08:14] <koregaonpark> kelsin, well then the skype chaps are idiots.
[08:14] <MidgetKiller> ye
[08:14] <b0b> hey have any of you herd of a site called fast silicon
[08:14] <t35t0r> skype chaps have money ..not idiots
[08:15] <kelsin> koregaonpark: if it was legal to put skype in multiverse I'm sure it would be, just like java was (for a small while, not it's open of course), just like you can get the free vmware in the repos, cause they allow it
[08:15] <kelsin> koregaonpark: I agree :)
[08:15] <kelsin> koregaonpark: not = now
[08:15] <UbuntuAnon> b0b: Is that a pron site with fake chested chicks?
[08:15] <priich> skype chaps is ebay
[08:15] <UbuntuAnon> "fast silicon"
[08:15] <b0b> no
[08:15] <koregaonpark> t35t0r: let's see what their money can do when a larger number of their users are on Ubuntu
[08:15] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9398/
[08:15] <koregaonpark> kelsin... okay, understood.
[08:15] <arrenlex> Magic-FX: ...that's it?
[08:15] <UbuntuAnon> Is the Skype offered for Ubuntu created by the Skype's parent company or some 3'rd party group?
[08:16] <t35t0r> there's a skype linux
[08:16] <UbuntuAnon> Because if its 3rd party, then its just "a client" that works with Skype's network
[08:16] <b0b> does anybody know the name scott pierce he is a big name in the it industry
[08:16] <t35t0r> it's not 3rd party
[08:16] <UbuntuAnon> Just like Trillian or GAIM works with multiple networks
[08:16] <t35t0r> b0b, who is that
[08:16] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: yeah. ?
[08:16] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: You interested in sharing a printer?
[08:16] <Gonzi> hi
[08:16] <koregaonpark> anyone know if Skype Windows with video works on Ubuntu under Wine?
[08:16] <kelsin> koregaonpark: yeah, it can be a sucky situation, but for a user that doesn't need to mess with stuff Ubuntu seems to work well, my parents love it (but all they do is use Firefox, OpenOffice and Gaim)
[08:16] <UbuntuAnon> Plus, one thing is to offer Skype and a whole other issue is to allow unlicensed playing of MP3s
[08:16] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: i dont have one
[08:16] <UbuntuAnon> Skype clients generate money for Skype, whether they are on Ubuntu or Windows
[08:17] <t35t0r> koregaonpark, probably not because the drivers for the webcam won't work probably
[08:17] <Gonzi> someone know, how to do a recursive chmod in a ftp by commandline ?
[08:17] <kylequamme> so it seems as if there must still be a driver tying up my video card
[08:17] <koregaonpark> t35t0r...oh...
[08:17] <MidgetKiller> what do you guys prefer, gnome or kde?
[08:17] <t35t0r> Gonzi, use gftp
[08:17] <t35t0r> Gonzi, do you have ssh access on the ftp site?
[08:17] <koregaonpark> MidgetKiller: Gnome ftw!
[08:17] <DeL3e7> im  gettin used to gnome
[08:17] <Gonzi> gftp dont do a recursive :(
[08:17] <tuskernini> Gonzi, do you use ftp or lftp
[08:17] <t35t0r> Gonzi, try konqueror
[08:17] <UbuntuAnon> I think KDE is better for beginners
[08:17] <Gonzi> Just access via ftp
[08:17] <koregaonpark> gotta restart then study... catch you guys later.
[08:17] <DeL3e7> spent a great time of my noob linux life on kde and ... well
[08:17] <OMGLAZERS> Hey everyone, I just installed the nvidia drivers which required me to download the -386 linux restricted parts. However, I can't find the linux headers for it under /usr/src/.. Does anyone knoe where they might be? And also, where's the nvidia configuration settings area
[08:18] <t35t0r> Gonzi, try konqueror
[08:18] <UbuntuAnon> Ubuntu's color setup is so ugly
[08:18] <b0b> gnome is my favorite
[08:18] <Lynoure> UbuntuAnon: you can change it.
[08:18] <UbuntuAnon> !nvidia
[08:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:18] <billy> UbuntuAnon : very generic looking.
[08:18] <Gonzi> tuskernini i use "ftp"
[08:18] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon... I disagree...
[08:18] <DeL3e7> its nice having gnome with kde's progs
[08:18] <nalpha> kelsin : do you know how to block internet access from spesific IP on my gateway server?
[08:18] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: so like; what do i need to change in that?
[08:18] <UbuntuAnon> Lynoure: I agree but try doing that and get back to me, you will not like the results
[08:18] <DeL3e7> gnome feels less intense of a windowmanager
[08:18] <kylequamme> UbuntuAnon: don't keep doing !nvidia, it isn't helping
[08:18] <kelsin> OMGLAZERS: some settings can be set with the nvidia-settings program, the others have to be set in xorg.conf
[08:18] <t35t0r> nalpha, there are several ways : /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny or iptables
[08:18] <Lynoure> UbuntuAnon: I did that in Kubuntu and I'm quite happy
[08:19] <t35t0r> nalpha, it can also be set at the daemon configuration
[08:19] <kelsin> nalpha: sounds like a firewall issue, I'm sure iptables can do it, I know nothing about it though, sorry
[08:19] <UbuntuAnon> I did that with Kubuntu as well and I was "not" happy
[08:19] <OMGLAZERS> kelsin, Thanks
[08:19] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Back that up and replace it with this one: http://68.148.168.84:8001/smb.conf.magic
[08:19] <b0b> my nvidia card works fine with ubuntu
[08:19] <nalpha> ow.. thanx... t3tt0r
[08:19] <DeL3e7> w00t got mplayer finally
[08:19] <DeL3e7> sweetness
[08:19] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: (tell me if you need that put into commands)
[08:19] <t35t0r> now get vlc
[08:19] <nalpha> i;m try it
[08:19] <billy> Del3e7 : that's good news.  congrats.
[08:19] <t35t0r> vlc has direct playlists for shoutcast radio and tv
[08:19] <OMGLAZERS> kelsin, Why is it after installing the drivers I can't get my resolution above 1024x ?
[08:19] <DeL3e7> got that too
[08:19] <billy> Del3e7 : don't forget mozilla-mplayer plugin.
[08:19] <arrenlex> But mplayer has mencoder and awesomeness.
[08:20] <DeL3e7> got it
[08:20] <t35t0r> vlc has gui encoding
[08:20] <DeL3e7> yeah
[08:20] <Lynoure> UbuntuAnon: You can probably get someone to even make a custom theme for you, if you really want it
[08:20] <omegacenti> Is it wrong that I want to get rid of windows entirely?  My only issues are how do I get my all in one printer/scanner/copier to work in linux and how to get ny card reader to work, and well, my linksys draft n router to work. Any suggestions?
[08:20] <OMGLAZERS> kelsin, My screen looks freaking huge like this w/o resolution above 1024x :\ and I do know my monitor supports it
[08:20] <UbuntuAnon> OMGLAZERS: Gotta edit xorg.conf
[08:20] <TronBonne> The Ubuntu Gamer Arena got hacked?
[08:20] <kelsin> OMGLAZERS: are mode bigger than that in your xorg.conf file? Did you search /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors?
[08:20] <OMGLAZERS> UbuntuAnon, Ahh darn. Ok, how do I do that
[08:20] <mjunx> oh my god it's still active at this time!
[08:20] <t35t0r> !google ubuntu printer scanner copier
[08:20] <UbuntuAnon> Lynoure: I already changed the theme, I switched to Gnome eventually over KDE
[08:20] <arrenlex> KDE FTW!
[08:20] <DeL3e7> theres a gamer arena
[08:21] <DeL3e7> ?
[08:21] <mjunx> yay for kde
[08:21] <Limited> hey all
[08:21] <t35t0r> omegacenti, can't easily ..the router works by iself
[08:21] <wizo> hey, is fluxbox in the universal thing?
[08:21] <mjunx> I just installed the comix theme, this is fun
[08:21] <priich> nalpha, if you find iptables command-line tools intimidating, there is always a frontend called firestarter.
[08:21] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: When you've replaced it, execute sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[08:21] <OMGLAZERS> UbuntuAnon, Sorry, what I mean was, what do I need to edit to enable resolution above 1024x
[08:21] <UbuntuAnon> OMGLAZERS: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[08:21] <billy> priich : firestarter rules.
[08:21] <Magic-Fx> ok
[08:21] <UbuntuAnon> Try that
[08:21] <OMGLAZERS> UbuntuAnon, Thanks
[08:21] <UbuntuAnon> Its a detailed guide
[08:21] <priich> billy, hehe a pun
[08:21] <DeL3e7> i suddenly wanna install/play scorched3d
[08:22] <UbuntuAnon> Lets do it
[08:22] <UbuntuAnon> Lets play
[08:22] <billy> priich : that's keen.  good one.
[08:22] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: when i try change samba.conf it says permission denied
[08:22] <DeL3e7> gotta love prebuilt bins... i just switched from gentoo so go figure
[08:22] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: That's because you need to use sudo to edit that file.
[08:22] <Magic-Fx> oh sweet as
[08:22] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Here, just run these commands in terminal:
[08:23] <UbuntuAnon> Jesus Comedy Central in NY is advertising Girls Gone Wild, "Galagars 2000" (strip club) and then a Sex Hotline --- all one right after the other...
[08:23] <Magic-Fx> k
[08:23] <b0b> there is a clone for unreal tounament that i found the other day that is almost dead on to the original
[08:23] <DeL3e7> i now feel like i'm being chauffeured in my own limo
[08:23] <t35t0r> DeL3e7, you'll be back!
[08:23] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak
[08:23] <UbuntuAnon> Its as if Comedy Central became a soft-porn flick channel
[08:23] <kelsin> DeL3e7: lol yep, I'm never going back, I loved gentoo and it taught me alot, but I hate trying to solve a problem and having to watch a movie, or even SLEEP AND GOTO SCHOOL before I can finish
[08:23] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: sudo wget http://68.148.168.84:8001/smb.conf.magic -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:23] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[08:23] <b0b> bill gates is a bitch
[08:23] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Then go to your vista box and try it out.
[08:23] <DeL3e7> nah gentoo is a thing of the past.. great for development though
[08:23] <arrenlex> !ohmy > b0b
[08:23] <billy> b0b : totally.
[08:24] <DeL3e7> as a headless machine
[08:24] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: ok ill let u know in a min
[08:24] <UbuntuAnon> arrenlex: bill gates is a female dog
[08:24] <b0b> he is just lost and doesn't really know shit
[08:24] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Problem is, it has a pcmcia card that I have to use it. Just wondering if the card is supported...
[08:24] <kelsin> DeL3e7: I do miss the config file updater :)
[08:24] <arrenlex> DeL3e7: Judging by the fact that #gentoo has more users than #ubuntu at the moment, you might be wrong about that. :)
[08:24] <DeL3e7> i'll keep gentoo in my repertoire
[08:24] <DeL3e7> u sure?
[08:25] <arrenlex> DeL3e7: Look for yourself. /list
[08:25] <DeL3e7> 1000 is alot of people
[08:25] <UbuntuAnon> 948 there and 941 here
[08:25] <Magic-Fx> arrenlex: i can see the files but cant edit or create anything
[08:25] <DeL3e7> howmanny in gentoo i dont feel like lookin
[08:25] <UbuntuAnon> Not that huge of a difference
[08:25] <b0b> bill gates didn't write dos
[08:25] <arrenlex> UbuntuAnon: Maybe not a huge difference, but far from "dead" and "thing of the past" :)
[08:25] <b0b> he boyght it
[08:25] <DeL3e7> yeah i guess so i hung out there alot, stuff scrolls by at light speed
[08:25] <b0b> bought it
[08:26] <arrenlex> !offtopic | b0b
[08:26] <ubotu> b0b: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:26] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: What does it say if you try to change a file?
[08:26] <UbuntuAnon> !google bitch | arrenlex
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google bitch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <Magic-Fx> You need permission to perform this action
[08:27] <b0b> I know i just hate gates and vista with a passion i just feel like dogging on him
[08:27] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <DeL3e7> did u see that youtube vista install in less then 2 min? funny dude runs the manual and cd through a shredder
[08:28] <arrenlex> Magic-Fx: Hmm... I don't know... I don't use either vista or ubuntu, and that file works for me, so I'm stuck. Sorry...
[08:28] <DeL3e7> i'd slit my wrists before i tried vista
[08:29] <koregaonpark> billy, Flannel... upgrade completely messed up my install. Ubuntu won't boot anymore. :-(
[08:29] <b0b> I am a little drunk and bill gates is a bitch
[08:29] <DeL3e7> i just installed ubuntu onmy moms dell today
[08:29] <UbuntuAnon> Yeah I think Vista should have never come out or just came a few years earlier
[08:29] <DeL3e7> i think she likes it
[08:29] <MTecknology> I did a wireshark capture for the duration of loading hotmail.com. It took about 35 seconds. I have tried this with IPv6 and IPv4. Can somebody help me decipher where the network is hanging up? - nslookup takes less than a second
[08:29] <UbuntuAnon> Because after waiting for 6 or so years what we get is a huge dissapointment
[08:29] <UbuntuAnon> Even Windows 98 was something to glaze at in comparison to 95
[08:29] <b0b> the open soure community rules all
[08:29] <UbuntuAnon> And that was no more than 3 yeas
[08:30] <koregaonpark> does anyone have a clue as to why ubuntu won't boot now that i've upgraded to edgy?
[08:30] <UbuntuAnon> lol
[08:30] <priich> koregaonpark, do you get any error messages ?
[08:30] <b0b> your computer is jacked up
[08:31] <koregaonpark> priich, nope, just a black screen.
[08:31] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Try asking Synaptic, in Ubuntu it does everything
[08:31] <koregaonpark> b0b, thanks for your wise opinion.
[08:31] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon, I'm currently in recovery mode.... it took me to the root command prompt and i typed startx
[08:31] <joe4444> anyone have a Radeon 9550 ?
[08:32] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: And what error did it give you?
[08:32] <Wally1> kando :P
[08:32] <UbuntuAnon> check .xsession-error
[08:32] <koregaonpark> no error, UbuntuAnon... just a black screen.
[08:32] <koregaonpark> How do I check that, UbuntuAnon?
[08:32] <otateossian> hello
[08:32] <b0b> does keen have a "keen" opinion
[08:32] <b0b> lol
[08:32] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, do this: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log and check the file for any errors.
[08:33] <otateossian> i am trying to use wireless on my dell 1505 running ubuntu edgy 6.10
[08:33] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, you might also do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:33] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe, okay, got some text...
[08:33] <otateossian> it has a intel 3945 wireless
[08:33] <otateossian> can some one help me
[08:33] <mike1o> !anybody
[08:33] <otateossian> i have tried alot of different things from ndiswrapper to wpa_supplicant
[08:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:33] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, look for the lines that start with [EE]  (i think)
[08:33] <b0b> am I respected in this chat
[08:33] <Wally1> how many of you live in a basement :P
[08:34] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe, okay.
[08:34] <otateossian> nothing works
[08:34] <UbuntuAnon> I live on the first floor does that count Wally1 ?
[08:34] <otateossian> does someone know what to do
[08:34] <Wally1> no :P
[08:34] <Wally1> UbuntuAnon, :)
[08:34] <b0b> I have four years of linux experience
[08:34] <Wally1> I like Ubuntu, but i have OS X
[08:34] <Wally1> and i dont feel the need to install another OS
[08:35] <UbuntuAnon> Wally1: Thats fantastic
[08:35] <mike1o> does anybody know if feisty is coming out in the beginning or end of aprile?
[08:35] <KenSentMe> otateossian, try to install network-manager-gnome (or something like that). It can connect to various types of wireless networks without any problems
[08:35] <b0b> I am not a programer but would like to learn
[08:35] <otateossian> kensentme: it is already installed but it just says connection failed
[08:35] <Wally1> b0b, good luck
[08:35] <DeL3e7> what package contains "dig" and "traceroute"  and other net tools like that
[08:35] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe... found some EE text. how should i show it to you?
[08:35] <UbuntuAnon> DeL3e7: The Google package
[08:36] <joe4444> hmmm... i had to install kubuntu because i kept getting errors trying to burn the ubuntu iso... i just ran "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and now it seems to be stuck at "Setting up diveintopython"
[08:36] <Joshooa> How would i go abouts installing ndisgtk.deb, once I find and download it?
[08:36] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. Show it to others, because i have to go. You can skip the errors involving wacom btw
[08:36] <joe4444> what should i do?
[08:37] <b0b> why good luck do you not think I am capable when I was in the seventh grade I was tested and had a collage IQ
[08:37] <Joshooa> heh
[08:37] <b0b> I am now 20
[08:37] <koregaonpark> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9399/ - can someone tell me what these errors mean?
[08:38] <otateossian> hey b0b
[08:38] <UbuntuAnon> b0b: He uses a Mac, they think CSS is programming
[08:38] <joe4444> b0b, so now your IQ matches your age group?
[08:38] <otateossian> can you help me with some wireless issues
[08:38] <Joshooa> So b0b, what is your CollEge IQ then?
[08:38] <koregaonpark> UbuntuAnon: LOL....
[08:38] <Joshooa> Cause, it's not rated by school level
[08:38] <joe4444> lol "collage"
[08:38] <Joshooa> Or, do you have a high cut and paste pictures to a poster board IQ?
[08:39] <UbuntuAnon> Yeah he meant a collage IQ
[08:39] <koregaonpark> Someone help! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9399/
[08:39] <Joshooa> Don't get me wrong I love collages, they make great posters for rooms
[08:39] <UbuntuAnon> He took a 5 from here on one day and a 5 from there and put them together
[08:39] <DeL3e7> netwox pkgz had it
[08:39] <Joshooa> Ah, I'm so glad I decided to look at this window now, that gave me a real good chuckle before bed
[08:39] <UbuntuAnon> Whats wacom?
[08:39] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, you can skip these errors. They don't do any harm. The problem is not here. Check also the file Xorg.0.log.old for other errors then the wacom ones
[08:40] <b0b> this is bob's wife sorry for this...he's well alittle drunk right now. please forgive him...thanks, tif
[08:40] <UbuntuAnon> koregaonpark: Ask Synaptic to install wacom for you
[08:40] <joe4444> lol... his wife, ok
[08:40] <Joshooa> b0b: What kind of programming are you interested in, Java, C++, Basic?
[08:40] <omegacenti> If I wanted to write My documents from sda1 to a DVD without using the gnome built in cd/dvd creator (it crashes and I don't know why), what should I do?
[08:40] <UbuntuAnon> b0b: lmao fantastic!
[08:40] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe, okay...
[08:40] <Joshooa> wow
[08:40] <UbuntuAnon> Thats pretty original
[08:40] <|PiP|> will 7.04 come bundled w/ Rails ready-to-go?
[08:40] <kelsin> |PiP|: 6.10 has a rails package already
[08:40] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe: Fatal server error:
[08:40] <kelsin> |PiP|: are you asking if Rails will be installed by default in a desktop ubuntu install? Probably not
[08:40] <koregaonpark> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)
[08:40] <joe4444> "honey, will you come set these guys on irc straight?  i'm too drunk"
[08:40] <Joshooa> b0b: Well, do YOU know what kind of programming he wants to do?
[08:41] <kelsin> omegacenti: you can look at gnome-baker
[08:41] <Joshooa> b0b: I like programming, fun, but HARD
[08:41] <|PiP|> kelsin: the rails that comes with 6.10 is kinda broken
[08:41] <omegacenti> kelsin: Thanks :)
[08:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys i'm very new to ubuntu - ii was wondering - how do I play windows media player files like ASX in linux
[08:41] <KenSentMe> koregaonpark, that's the only one?
[08:41] <t35t0r> haha
[08:41] <KenSentMe> !w32codecs | denis_on_ubuntu
[08:41] <ubotu> denis_on_ubuntu: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:41] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe, three like this: WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor
[08:41] <b0b> bob likes all programming...
[08:41] <omegacenti> kelsin: Didnt come up in synaptics.... I am just striking out today on things not found in repository
[08:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> i have the win32 codecs
[08:42] <kelsin> |PiP|: I just use gems to install rails anyway, but heres to hoping the rails package is better in fiesty, you should probably ask the #ubuntu+1 channgel about it
[08:42] <denis_on_ubuntu> but they dont play embedded asx files in a firefox window
[08:42] <b0b> but i'm signing off now, i don't know anything about programming or anything so, hope everyone has a good night.
[08:42] <t35t0r> mplayerplug-in
[08:42] <Joshooa> b0b: Well what does bob want to program for?
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[08:42] <kelsin> omegacenti: omegacenti sorry its: gnomebaker and it's in universe
[08:42] <koregaonpark> KenSentMe, you think I should just do a fresh Edgy install then?
[08:42] <Joshooa> b0b: Ok bye bob
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll && rm -r ~/.gstreamer-0.10/
[08:42] <koregaonpark> !restrictedformats
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> Thats for denis_on_ubuntu
[08:42] <UbuntuAnon> Have fun denis_on_ubuntu
[08:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> will try
[08:43] <Joshooa> heh, collage
[08:43] <joe4444> ok, well i have installed ubuntu-desktop... now how do i "enable" it?
[08:43] <UbuntuAnon> denis_on_ubuntu: Remember, Ubuntu has a built in Child Lock, so you will not be able to watch pornography until you recompile the kernel from scratch with the Child Lock set to as off
[08:43] <UbuntuAnon> joe4444: PRess the "Enable" button
[08:44] <kelsin> joe4444: hopefully you can select gnome from the login screen
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> LOL
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> right....
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> child lock
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> haha
[08:44] <t35t0r> only vista would have something like that
[08:44] <Joshooa> Hey, can I get some help with some wireless card issues
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol child lock
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> that's a vista feature i'm sure
[08:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> or will be
[08:44] <UbuntuAnon> No
[08:44] <UbuntuAnon> Thats an OSX feature
[08:45] <t35t0r> that's why lots of parents will use it
[08:45] <Joshooa> I read on the hardware list my wireless card should work out of the box, but I am also reading I need to use ndiswrapper
[08:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> LOL
[08:45] <UbuntuAnon> "feature"
[08:45] <kelsin> Joshooa: just ask your question and state the problem, if people know about it they will answer, what card is it?
[08:45] <joe4444> cool, thanks
[08:45] <Joshooa> Linksys WMP54G
[08:45] <UbuntuAnon> Joshooa: Here is what you do.. By the way I had eggo for breakfast
[08:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> did you guys see the "launch" of vista? it's this dressed up family that was so "oh we love the new start button! it changed our lives!!!"
[08:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> :|
[08:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> creepy stuff
[08:45] <Joshooa> UbuntuAnon: I love eggos
[08:45] <omegacenti> kelsin: Weird, I am having an issue in which this folder that I try and write in these burners is crashing all of them... any suggestions?
[08:46] <DeL3e7> thanx for the help guys i think i'll take a break
[08:46] <DeL3e7> my bum hertz
[08:46] <otateossian> someone help me please
[08:46] <t35t0r> no
[08:46] <otateossian> i have a wireless issue
[08:46] <omegacenti> kelsin: Wait, I think it just got through the problem.
[08:46] <billy> koregaonpark: i'm sorry to hear that.  is anyone helping you?
[08:46] <kelsin> omegacenti: wierd, you can try k3b, a lot of people like it, it will pull in lots of kde packages, but still, a lot of people like it :)
[08:46] <Joshooa> The Ubuntu site says it should work, another says to install ndiswrapper-utils, which I think I can manage, and then install ndisgtk.deb which I don't know how to do for sure
[08:46] <denis_on_ubuntu> OK i really cant figure this out
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> http://www.avtoradio.ru/?an=r_online
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> ^
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> i need something that will play that
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> windows media player does it in windows.
[08:47] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, that crashed firefox
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> i know it's possible
[08:47] <t35t0r> i've got mplayerplug-in that's probably whyh
[08:47] <kelsin> Joshooa: I've heard you need ndis for that, honestly find a newer looking guide for installing it and try it out :)
[08:48] <UbuntuAnon> Mine said "can't parse that" no files
[08:48] <Joshooa> kelsin: How do I find a newer looking guide?
[08:48] <t35t0r> trying konqueror
[08:48] <DeL3e7> thats an asf
[08:48] <DeL3e7> denis_on_ubuntu,
[08:48] <blind> Anyone know of a program to control the TV-out function of an nVidia card? I have an S-Video out, but no way to actually make it send the signal. I tried nvtv (or something similar to that name) but my card is one of the very few unsupported. (5200FX)
[08:48] <DeL3e7> im thinking maybe ie4linux? might?
[08:48] <denis_on_ubuntu> mhm?
[08:48] <t35t0r> why would ies4linux
[08:48] <kelsin> Joshooa: I meant search the forums and google for a guide that was put out recently (dates on the forums etc)
[08:48] <denis_on_ubuntu> yes del3e7?
[08:49] <DeL3e7> lemmie go check on the pc i got that runnin
[08:49] <Joshooa> Where can I download Network Settings for Ubuntu, isn't that an extra wizard thing?
[08:49] <t35t0r> i don't even know what format it's tryign to send
[08:49] <priich> denis_on_ubuntu, well some people like shiny other prefer functionality. Just as some ubuntu users like beryl, yet others like fluxbox (not saying either is better, just the way it is.)
[08:49] <Joshooa> kelsin: I've been looking, and I have a hard time finding anything
[08:49] <kelsin> blind: I set up svideo by putting an option in xorg.conf
[08:49] <UbuntuAnon> blind: Why would you want to watch TV when you are blind?
[08:49] <blind> UbuntuAnon: ha. ha. ha.
[08:49] <Joshooa> kelsin: Best I did was find one that worked halfway, but it didn't work like it said it would, and I have to redo and fiddle with my card every time I boot up
[08:49] <denis_on_ubuntu> no argument there
[08:50] <pzmoma> ey its me DeL3e7  whats that url agian?
[08:50] <blind> kelsin: well, that makes sense, now doesn't it. im off to google..
[08:50] <denis_on_ubuntu> common - at least one of you has to have something that plays asx files!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:50] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:50] <blind> unless you know the string offhand :P
[08:50] <blind> mplayer
[08:50] <pzmoma> dont make me run downstairs an paste the url
[08:50] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:50] <kelsin> Joshooa: I would grab the drivers off the windows linksys drivers site, then follow the sample installing instructions off of the ndiswrapper site for ubuntu
[08:51] <blind> denis_on_ubuntu: sudo apt-get install mplayer && apt-get install w32codecs
[08:51] <blind> should able to run pretty much anything in mplayer after that
[08:51] <pzmoma> yeah that should work for asf right?
[08:51] <Joshooa> kelsin: Okay, I have the CD to grab the files from, I guess I will try that.  I'm just afraid of getting Ubuntu installed, and if I don't get it working, I'm stuck offline helpless
[08:51] <kelsin> blind: yeah there are some options for the nvidia driver to tell it to use svideo etc, I think I found all of them in one place on the gentoo wiki
[08:51] <Joshooa> More or less
[08:51] <blind> kelsin: link?
[08:51] <kelsin> Joshooa: obviously that's scary, don't have ethernet at all? :-(
[08:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> alright i'll try it
[08:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> hope it works
[08:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> how will it intergrate with firefox though?
[08:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> does it just do it automatically?
[08:52] <Joshooa> kelsin: I could, but then I'd have to bring my computer upstairs to the wireless router
[08:52] <kelsin> blind: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TV-Out_with_GeForce
[08:52] <blind> denis_on_ubuntu: that's a lot more complicated :P
[08:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> :(
[08:52] <Matthai> hi, how to u se mlabel command?
[08:52] <Joshooa> kelsin: Can't use IRC on my roommates comp for real good help, and couldn't get files to my computer then anyway
[08:53] <priich> blind, it is ?
[08:53] <kelsin> blind: obviosly ignore the gentoo install stuff, just look at the xorg.conf steps
[08:53] <blind> kelsin: thanks a gigabyte. :P
[08:53] <Matthai> I said: sudo mlabel /dev/sdc2 USB-fat
[08:53] <kelsin> Joshooa: ahh yeah, good luck
[08:53] <blind> priich: it was for me. hell, i still don't have it working.
[08:53] <Matthai> and nothing happened
[08:53] <nix_chix0r_> blind:  i broke it
[08:53] <blind> for like streaming asf/qt movies in firefox, they just don't run.
[08:53] <Matthai> just Mtools version 3.9.9,, blah, blah, blah
[08:53] <Joshooa> kelsin: Thank you, I somehow did it once, so I can probably do it again, but I want it to be right, not have to dhclient everytime I boot up for the card to even be seen
[08:53] <denis_on_ubuntu> are you serious ? :|
[08:53] <denis_on_ubuntu> that's retarded
[08:54] <blind> Someone else may know how to do it simply, denis_on_ubuntu, but alas, I do not.
[08:54] <blind> Have you checked the forums?
[08:54] <denis_on_ubuntu> i looked all over
[08:55] <denis_on_ubuntu> that's stupid - it's one of the most common streaming formats
[08:55] <DeL3e7> http://www.avtoradio.ru/?an=r_online
[08:55] <denis_on_ubuntu> within a browser
[08:55] <mike1o> mplayer does not play mpg's audio, mp3's, avi's correctly... the only one that plays fine are wmv's .... I wonder why... I already tried reinstalling it... I figure it must be a codec problem
[08:56] <Ubuntu-Anon> I got myself banned from #gentoo
[08:56] <Ubuntu-Anon> People are very anal there
[08:56] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:56] <nix_chix0r_> Ubuntu-Anon: i agree
[08:56] <denis_on_ubuntu> it's gentoo
[08:56] <denis_on_ubuntu> what isnt anal there
[08:56] <Ubuntu-Anon> They only allow joking among themselves
[08:56] <kraut> Ubuntu-Anon: that belongs to gentoo
[08:56] <Ubuntu-Anon> But if you even attempt to be sarcastic and you are an outsider
[08:57] <nix_chix0r_> that's probally just the developers
[08:57] <goban> when i try to open volume control Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[08:57] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:57] <Ubuntu-Anon> YOu get flodeed by the "stick to topic" whining
[08:57] <priich> blind, was a while since i did it but wasn't it just to dump the mplayer.xpt and .so files in the mozilla plugin folder, apt-get alsa-oss and update  /etc/firefox/firefoxrc  to use FIREFOX_DSP=alsa     ?
[08:57] <patbam> hi, is there any way to get screenshots from mplayer?
[08:57] <Ubuntu-Anon> patbam: Yes, take a picture with a film camera, develop it, use a scanner to scan it, ????, profit
[08:57] <eck> patbam: alt printscreen?
[08:57] <blind> priich: i don't know, but i will assure you that's getting written down and im going to try.
[08:57] <denis_on_ubuntu>  
[08:57] <patbam> Ubuntu-Anon: heh
[08:57] <t35t0r> the @'s in #gentoo aren't developers
[08:57] <blind> lol, ????, profit!
[08:58] <t35t0r> the dev's stay out of that chan
[08:58] <t35t0r> they are in #gentoo-dev
[08:58] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[08:58] <joe4444> ok, i've installed the ATI binary drivers following the docs, but fglrxinfo still isn't reporting my OpenGL renderer or vendor strings as ATI; they are Mesa something... my resolution is now correct, but i'm still getting the same image on both displays
[08:58] <joe4444> any suggestions?
[08:58] <pzmoma> what repo has the win32 codecs?
[08:58] <Ubuntu-Anon> joe4444: Use super glue
[08:58] <eck> pzmoma: multiverse
[08:58] <denis_on_ubuntu> multiverse
[08:58] <Ubuntu-Anon> pzmoma: The fourth one
[08:58] <patbam> eck: it doesn't work wiht some video formats -- it's a wmv
[08:58] <nix_chix0r_> i hardly go in that channel probally for the same reason even if you have an issue , they shove links at you and make you figure it out yourself with little to no guidance
[08:58] <nix_chix0r_> anyway
[08:58] <joshua__> anyone here got an opinion on Jackfield, or has used it yet?
[08:58] <joe4444> Ubuntu-Anon, ?
[08:58] <nix_chix0r_> i wonder if that one guy was able to fix his wireles deal
[08:59] <eck> patbam: there is a command line switch to have it output what formats it supports
[08:59] <pzmoma> im not seing em
[08:59] <pzmoma> dangit
[08:59] <eck> look at the man page, i forget what the flag is
[08:59] <Ubuntu-Anon> I know how to make Ubuntu popula
[08:59] <patbam> eck: command line switch to what?
[08:59] <eck> patbam: mplayer, of course
[08:59] <priich> blind, the reason for the aoss stuff is so you  to stop firefox from  usin ESD.     You could probably do without it but then you'd have a problem if something else tried to use /dev/dsp
[09:00] <nix_chix0r_> used that pastebin thing for a shell script to help a guy in here get his wireless working but i don't remember his nick so..
[09:00] <Ubuntu-Anon> Make an attractive (but not a porn star looking) chick take a picture as if using Ubuntu
[09:00] <patbam> eck: it plays the video fine, i installed the win32 codecs or whatever. i jsut want to capture stills from teh video
[09:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> i guess i shall never hear my favourite radio station on linux
[09:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> :(:(:(:(
[09:00] <eck> patbam: i think that depends on the video out option
[09:00] <nix_chix0r_> Ubuntu-Anon:  that will never work;)
[09:00] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, yes you sha;ll not
[09:00] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: You are a chick, shut up
[09:00] <eck> it would be either xv or x11
[09:01] <eck> !ohmy
[09:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:01] <nix_chix0r_> i'll have to wonder the same
[09:01] <t35t0r> nix chix0r has a gf?
[09:01] <pzmoma> cmon now Ubuntu-Anon  thats not in the ubuntu nature/philosophy
[09:01] <nix_chix0r_> no
[09:01] <nix_chix0r_> i was reffering to him
[09:01] <nix_chix0r_> erm
[09:01] <joe4444> Ubuntu-Anon, you're trying to help me get both displays working as one big desktop instead of 2 identical desktops =)
[09:02] <Ubuntu-Anon> pzmoma: Who cares about philosophy? Maybe Confucious does, but otherwise we don't care
[09:02] <okami> I wonder if anyone can help me out with a command piping problem. I'm trying to pipe the output from mencoder to the input if ffmpeg, the problem is that ffmpeg uses an switch to identify the input file (-i)
[09:02] <patbam> did confucius have a girlfriend?
[09:02] <nix_chix0r_> i stopped going over to the bf's place now that i work late, that and he always plays WoW
[09:02] <nix_chix0r_> it's starting to get annoying
[09:02] <Ubuntu-Anon> joe4444: Ohh, then use a photocopier and scotch tape, your refresh rate would be like 1 every 10 minutes, but hey.... its Ubuntu you know
[09:02] <yomm> Top o' the mornin' all :)
[09:02] <t35t0r> okami, mencoder can output to a file
[09:02] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: Thats the reason why I never started to play i as well
[09:03] <Ubuntu-Anon> My GF was on the computer for 5 hours straight today as well, its very not like her though
[09:03] <joe4444> not helpful =/
[09:03] <t35t0r> maybe you can use tee or something
[09:03] <denis_on_ubuntu> maybe i'll be the one guy to get famous for writing a UNIVERSAL application that plays all file types in linux
[09:03] <nix_chix0r_> heh Ubuntu-Anon he just recently started up with it again and yea things are lacking if you know what i mean.
[09:03] <denis_on_ubuntu> now wouldnt that be something
[09:03] <Ubuntu-Anon> She was trying to learn how to add/remove stuff to her myspace thing without asking me every few minutes about this and that, and got very proud to do almost everything on her own
[09:03] <nix_chix0r_> by the way!
[09:03] <nix_chix0r_> any one suggest a decetly priced mobo
[09:03] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: Im sorry to hear so
[09:03] <eck> denis_on_ubuntu: yes, it's mime, you're 1 years too late
[09:04] <t35t0r> myspace is the scourge of the internet
[09:04] <okami> t25tor: I know, but I'm trying to avoid writing that file and simply pipe it directly into ffmpeg
[09:04] <nix_chix0r_> because i still think that mine is killing all my hard drives
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> ok
[09:04] <eck> 15 years even
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> so
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> can
[09:04] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: Don't give him any that should work
[09:04] <blind> Hrm, I'm looking through an example xorg.conf for TV-OUT, and it's set to PAL-B, now I know I have NTSC, but I don't know what (if anything) to put after that hyphen.
[09:04] <nix_chix0r_> rofl
[09:04] <nix_chix0r_> it's been a week
[09:04] <nix_chix0r_> you'd think he'd notice
[09:04] <blind> is there a list somewhere?
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> can mime play asx files within a browser huh? HUH?
[09:04] <eck> denis_on_ubuntu: it's not an application
[09:04] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: I meant take his electricity way
[09:04] <nix_chix0r_> he's probally off fapping pardon my language.. but seriously i think my mobo is killing my hard drives
[09:04] <Ubuntu-Anon> What did you think I mean?
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> hm?
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> what is it
[09:04] <Ubuntu-Anon> He is fapping to that Leeroy Jenkins movie
[09:05] <t35t0r> what is fapping
[09:05] <eck> it's a protocol to encode file/application types
[09:05] <Ubuntu-Anon> Or that "Internet i for Porn" WOW remake
[09:05] <joe4444> i had a roommate addicted to WoW, and if there was ever an axiom it's WoW > ALL
[09:05] <nix_chix0r_> Ubuntu-Anon:  no try "cowboy bebop" some anime probally
[09:05] <eck> so the OS or app you are using can do the right thing
[09:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> ok. lol. well since i'm a total noob that tells me very little
[09:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> :)
[09:05] <nix_chix0r_> you know what i did the last time
[09:05] <Ubuntu-Anon> I had like 7 "computer savvy" friends all start up with WoW 2 yeas ago or so
[09:05] <Ubuntu-Anon> I haven't seen them since
[09:06] <eck> denis_on_ubuntu: well, you use it every time you have an email that has html, text, attachment, etc. components
[09:06] <Ubuntu-Anon> Maybe every few months on the streets or so
[09:06] <nix_chix0r_> i redirected the ip's needed for wow to some sheepshager site
[09:06] <nix_chix0r_> so he coudlnt' connect
[09:06] <Ubuntu-Anon> Using what nix?
[09:06] <Ubuntu-Anon> etc/hosts or your router?
[09:06] <nix_chix0r_> then uninstalled his drivers, and reinstalled outdated ones for his gfx card
[09:06] <bossa_nova> feisty + compiz + desktop-effects = white screen of death
[09:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> ok i gotcha - but it doesnt help me much with the dilema of playing files on linux that i want to play
[09:06] <joe4444> lol @ nix
[09:07] <nix_chix0r_> no i went into windows and edited the file oh lord i can't even remember
[09:07] <priich> blind, NTSC-M unless you live in Japan.
[09:07] <t35t0r> you should have just installed nix and then he wouldn't be able to do anything fun
[09:07] <bossa_nova> can anyone tell me how to disable desktop-effects?
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Anon> windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
[09:07] <blind> priich: thanks.
[09:07] <nix_chix0r_> basically yeah
[09:07] <eck> bossa_nova: i think it's a gconf string, i'm not sure which one
[09:07] <EdgEy> or edit the wow realmlist.wtf or whatever the name is
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: does he use wireless?
[09:07] <nix_chix0r_> nah he's a bsd dood when he's not playing wow
[09:07] <nix_chix0r_> no wireless
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Anon> Damn
[09:07] <eck> bossa_nova: or you can go to a VT and start twm or something
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Anon> Could use ettercap
[09:07] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[09:08] <t35t0r> and you're telling me he can't figure out what you did?
[09:08] <nix_chix0r_> i gota find a way to get my roomate to stop using all my bandwidth though
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Anon> And replace the image data he gets from WoW with goatse
[09:08] <nix_chix0r_> limit his bandwidth
[09:08] <EdgEy> wow sends no image data
[09:08] <nix_chix0r_> we have a 10mb connection but i swear he's using it all sometimes
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: Use scissors
[09:08] <eck> !offtopic | Ubuntu-Anon, nix_chix0r_
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu-Anon, nix_chix0r_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Anon> EdgEy: Is that really a "wow" factor?
[09:08] <bossa_nova> eck: I feel stupid, I was playing with the new Control Center (very nice!) and tried to enable the wobbly windows, now I just want GNOME back
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Anon> !whiner | eck
[09:08] <denis_on_ubuntu> 
[09:08] <keisangi> hi there
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whiner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> oh well that's disappointing
[09:09] <keisangi> i was wondering if there was some nice graphical tools to install and manage xen virtual manchine on ubuntu ?
[09:09] <nix_chix0r_> tsch didn't mean to go off topic in here
[09:09] <Ubuntu-Anon> nix_chix0r_: I bet your roomate masturbates over you more than your BF does
[09:09] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[09:09] <eck> !ops
[09:09] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:09] <t35t0r> man this channel is less "family friendly" than #gentoo
[09:10] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[09:10] <nix_chix0r_> Ubuntu-Anon:  most likely
[09:10] <eck> bossa_nova: if you use apt to install a WM like twm you can fix it pretty easily
[09:10] <numist> hmm?
[09:10] <nix_chix0r_> but if you think bout it.. they both get more out of it than me
[09:10] <denis_on_ubuntu> it's more "avant garde" though common
[09:10] <denis_on_ubuntu> :D
[09:10] <t35t0r> heh now he's been banned from #gentoo and #ubuntu
[09:10] <numist> wow, hey Ubuntu-Anon, want to keep a civil tongue in your mouth before it gets sewn shut?
[09:10] <eck> bossa_nova: there is a command line tool to edit gconf, i am not sure if there is an easy way to navigate the settings with it though
[09:10] <numist> never mind, nal got it
[09:11] <bossa_nova> eck: I guess I'll install fluxbox, I used to like that one.
[09:11] <UbuntuR> nix_chix0r_: But #ubuntu  wont help you with getting a new BF as you may have already noticed "apt-get --reinstall install bf" will not work
[09:11] <nix_chix0r_> hahahaha
[09:11] <eck> bossa_nova: that would work too; after you install it you can start it up with startx and then use gconf-editor
[09:11] <yomm> yl at crashing your X , even when it's not enabled ?
[09:11] <UbuntuR> Shit
[09:11] <nalioth> we got it, Hobbsee
[09:11] <nix_chix0r_> rm -rf
[09:11] <yomm> sorry ... How good is Beryl at crashing your X , even when it's not enabled ?
[09:11] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i see that
[09:12] <Hobbsee> nalioth: and this one?
[09:12] <nix_chix0r_> you're just gona keep gettign banned
[09:12] <Hobbsee> nix_chix0r_: that wasnt a ban, fyi
[09:12] <Sonics> somebody wants one hd? http://dimensionx.orgfree.com/index.php?menu=6&pag=1
[09:12] <nalioth> nix_chix0r_: please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:12] <nix_chix0r_> i did
[09:12] <Ubuntuuuhuh> hi mai naim is chee chau ming i haev a questian about for haev wireles for uboontew
[09:12] <nix_chix0r_> i have some questions still
[09:12] <Ubuntuuuhuh> plz help kthx
[09:12] <bossa_nova> eck: thanks ... I'll let you know how it goes
[09:12] <t35t0r> heh
[09:12] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:12] <YellaJacket> :-/
[09:12] <nix_chix0r_> wow
[09:12] <nix_chix0r_> i won't be like him
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Seveas: you didnt read what nalioth said?
[09:13] <nix_chix0r_> i don't even think i can get beryl to work
[09:13] <Seveas> Hobbsee, the "we got it"?
[09:13] <nix_chix0r_> sp(
[09:13] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yeah
[09:13] <nix_chix0r_> onboard video still
[09:13] <Hobbsee> seeing as i was going to do what you did.
[09:13] <Seveas> Hobbsee, obviously he didn't get it since the person kept rejoining
[09:13] <Hobbsee> that's what i thought
[09:14] <Seveas> anyone else want a ban?
[09:14] <kargath64> OOH ME
[09:14] <keisangi> someone knows if there's some graphicals tools to manage and install xen virtual machine on ubuntu ?
[09:14] <omegacenti> And the ban hammor doth strike the wicked.
[09:15] <tkp_> hi
[09:15] <Seveas> hi tkp_
[09:15] <tkp_> my libc.so seems to be screwed up somehow
[09:15] <eck> keisangi: have you tried xenman?
[09:15] <tkp_> take a look at this:
[09:15] <omegacenti> IS there anything you can do if ubuntu freezes up?
[09:15] <tkp_> http://rafb.net/p/z3eYIR66.html
[09:15] <tkp_> how can I get it back?
[09:16] <t35t0r> get what back
[09:16] <Seveas> tkp_, that's normal. You can't execute libc6
[09:16] <t35t0r> lol
[09:16] <Seveas> if your libc were messed up, everything was broken
[09:16] <tkp_> Seveas: thats not true...
[09:16] <Jowi> omegacenti, if it is only xorg that is locking up you can always (ok maybe not always but 90% of the time) press the power button for a clean shutdown
[09:16] <DeL3e7> wow cool i got http://www.avtoradio.ru/?an=r_online to work, after removing the totem mozilla plugin and installin the win32 and mplayer codecs
[09:16] <tkp_> normlly the output looks more like this
[09:16] <tkp_> http://rafb.net/p/4Nl0DU37.html
[09:17] <grusomhat> Anyone here able to help me with display issues when installing ubuntu?
[09:17] <omegacenti> Jowi: What else could "lock up" ?
[09:17] <nalpha> guys where is the location of configuration file (for auto command execute)?
[09:17] <Jowi> omegacenti, if that is a soft power button...
[09:17] <tkp_> Seveas: try yours
[09:17] <tkp_> you'll see wht I mean
[09:17] <eck> nalpha: it depends what desktop (shell?) you are using
[09:17] <Seveas> tkp_, interesting, I though only ld.so did that
[09:17] <nalpha> guys where is the location of configuration file (for auto command execute when starting gnome)
[09:17] <Jowi> omegacenti, suspend/hibernation. only thing for me.
[09:17] <DeL3e7> whever was trying to get it to play
[09:17] <Seveas> tkp_, apt-get install --reinstall libc6
[09:17] <mrtimdog> Hi, anyone know of a networked whiteboard type of app? I've had a search but couldn't find any.
[09:18] <yomm_> yaikes , I guess that crash answered my last question LOL
[09:18] <nalpha> eck : i mean's i want to run spesific command file... if from gnome it's can be adjust from control pannel, session, command..
[09:18] <priich> Jowi, isn't that a bit risky with write cache or similar ?
[09:18] <blind> Hm, well I've got it playing out of my TV, but it's ONLY playing out of my TV... lol
[09:18] <nalpha> eck : but if i want to change it from command prompt, where is the location of the configuration file..
[09:18] <grusomhat> Anyone?
[09:18] <priich> Jowi, ohh sorry didn't see the soft power part till later.
[09:18] <tkp_> Seveas: nope... still looks wong
[09:18] <blind> and it's really fuzzy. the text is hard to read >_>
[09:18] <Jowi> priich, yeah, with an oldschool powerbutton it's not safe at all
[09:19] <Seveas> tkp_, btw: it's /lib/libc6.so
[09:19] <omegacenti> I might be a little naive in asking this question, but, are vendors starting to support Linux more or less?
[09:19] <Seveas> tkp_, btw: it's /lib/libc.so.6
[09:19] <eck> nalpha: my guess is that it is another thing set in gconf, i think you're really supposed to edit gnome startup programs with the graphical tool. if you want something to start when you log into a shell, you can probably use ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[09:19] <grusomhat> Does ubuntu have problems with dvi-agp adaptors?
[09:19] <Seveas> don't know what the thing in /usr/lib is
[09:19] <tkp_> Seveas: not on mine
[09:19] <blind> ooh, i guess it was TOO sharp.
[09:19] <t35t0r> omegacenti, they've always supported linux for the enterprise
[09:19] <tkp_> I don't have that file
[09:19] <t35t0r> omegacenti, they just don't for consumers
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> Whats the command to unmount a drive?
[09:19] <t35t0r> umounty
[09:19] <t35t0r> umount
[09:19] <tkp_> oh, hang on
[09:19] <eck> nalpha: i think .bash_profile is sourced when you log into a gnome session as well
[09:19] <tkp_>  /lib/libc.so.6
[09:19] <Seveas> tkp_, the second one you should have
[09:19] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Do you ever see them getting around to the kind of support that windows enjoys?
[09:20] <tkp_> hmm
[09:20] <t35t0r> omegacenti, no you get support from the linux company
[09:20] <Seveas> /usr/lib/libc.so is only an ld script
[09:20] <priich> Jowi, that's what sysrq and "Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring" is for :)
[09:20] <tkp_> so what is /usr/lib/libc.so
[09:20] <t35t0r> e.g. RHEL or Novell
[09:20] <Seveas> it's not even executable here :)
[09:20] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Then tell somebody to get onto the Intel 915 chipset problem of "Built-in" modes!
[09:20] <omegacenti> :p
[09:21] <t35t0r> what are you ta;lking about built in modes
[09:21] <yomm_> omegacent : I believe there is a tool for that one
[09:21] <tkp_> interesting
[09:21] <omegacenti> t35t0r: Well in my Xorg log, it says the only built in modes for my screen are 1024x768 and 1280x764, when I know 800x600 works in windows.
[09:21] <eck> omegacenti: linux has pretty good vendor support, but generally only for servers
[09:21] <yomm_> omegacenti : i915res or something
[09:22] <omegacenti> eck: Than that means a small portion of the population.
[09:22] <Seveas> !find 915
[09:22] <ubotu> Found: 915resolution
[09:22] <omegacenti> yomm_: PRoblem persist even with that.
[09:22] <Jowi> priich, very true. reminds me of those home-made reset buttons that was so common on the C64
[09:22] <eck> omegacenti: i guess it's the profitable portion :-\
[09:22] <t35t0r> that's a problem with your version of i810 drivers and xorg
[09:22] <omegacenti> eck: What makes the consumer market less profitable?
[09:22] <mrtimdog> Anyone know of, or used, any whiteboard like apps for ubuntu?
[09:22] <yomm_> omegacent :sorry to hear :/
[09:23] <t35t0r> it's cause they want to be cheap
[09:23] <priich> Jowi, hehe the old paperclip reboot ?
[09:23] <t35t0r> consumer == commodity
[09:23] <omegacenti> yomm_: As am I lol.
[09:23] <t35t0r> no profit in commodity products
[09:23] <omegacenti> priich: paperclip reboot?
[09:23] <mojo> quick maybe dumb shell question... how do i kill stopped jobs
[09:23] <t35t0r> kill -9
[09:23] <yomm_> I'(m a cheap bugger , trhat's for sure :)
[09:23] <Seveas> mojo, with kill and then fg
[09:23] <omegacenti> !fg
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <Jowi> priich, yeah but that damn paperclip always got lost. better to sold a proper button to the pins
[09:23] <eck> omegacenti: servers have higher margins, are _much_ more standardized, and companies can get away with charging a lot more for support
[09:24] <omegacenti> eck: "Screw the little guy"
[09:24] <yomm_> eck : Like a 100 dollars for replacing a modem
[09:24] <eck> omegacenti: i don't like it, that's just the way it is
[09:24] <yomm_> nah that would be cheap
[09:24] <mojo> Seveas: thanks...  als t35t0r
[09:24] <priich> omegacenti, yeah on the C64 you could do a reboot by connecting the leftmost and third leftmost pin on the expansion slow.
[09:24] <priich> Jowi, that's how i burnt out my videochip :(
[09:25] <hw__> What has happend to inittab on (k)ubuntu?
[09:25] <t35t0r> it's been replaced by /etc/start.local or something
[09:25] <eck> hw__: it is gone since upstart
[09:25] <t35t0r> or some other init scripts
[09:26] <yomm_> t35tor : What script do I edit/create for applications to startup with my xsession ( besides .xinitrc ) ?
[09:26] <eck> hw__: the things that used to be in it are mostly controlled by the scripts in /etc/event.d/
[09:26] <t35t0r> yomm_, depends on your wm/desktop
[09:27] <yomm_> t35tor , I see , Let's say for sake's reason Gnome !
[09:27] <Joshooa> If I can find /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt61pci.ko, with modprobe, and rt61 is my wireless card chipset, does that mean I have a driver for it, and wouldn't need ndiswrapper?
[09:27] <hw__> eck: Thx!
[09:28] <t35t0r> Joshooa, probably not if it shows up in ifconfig
[09:28] <nalpha> eck : thanx
[09:28] <eck> np
[09:28] <grusomhat> Grr does this channel help at all
[09:28] <t35t0r> grusomhat, help what
[09:28] <grusomhat> Does ubuntu have problems with dvi-agp adaptors?
[09:28] <Joshooa> t35t0r: If what shows up? In iwconfig I see RT61 under ra0 Wireless
[09:28] <t35t0r> what is a dvi agp adaptor?
[09:29] <Jowi> grusomhat, you mean dvi->vga adaptor?
[09:29] <grusomhat> Because that seems to be the only thing I can think of that's giving me problems
[09:29] <grusomhat> Yeah that's what I mean
[09:29] <t35t0r> grusomhat, that's not your problem
[09:29] <eck> Joshooa: then it is working
[09:29] <blind> anyone have hands-on experience with trying to display on both a TV and monitor off an nVidia card? I'm having some issues :P (only my TV is displaying, and im not sure how to fix it)
[09:29] <joe4444> hmmm... now i'm still a linux newb, but isn't it a bit of a security hole to allow root access (without a password) via the GRUB option for recovery mode?
[09:29] <billy> am I able to edit the partition that ubuntu is on while being inside of ubuntu?
[09:29] <Jowi> grusomhat, no. but your video card driver might need a "CRT" option in xorg.conf.
[09:29] <Seveas> joe4444, no
[09:29] <eck> joe4444: you can do that on any linux computer
[09:30] <eck> joe4444: it's called single user mode
[09:30] <grusomhat> But it's lcd
[09:30] <Seveas> physical access == you're screwed
[09:30] <eck> it's been around in unix _forever_
[09:30] <grusomhat> It just doesn't have dvi
[09:30] <Seveas> eck, not in the way ubuntu uses it
[09:30] <t35t0r> linux security model doesn't account for physical access
[09:30] <t35t0r> you need hardware support
[09:30] <Joshooa> eck: But that's not my point, I'm trying to 1 Make sure it will work without ndiswrapper after I reinstall, and also help someone get another wireless card working, and I found his chipset .ko on my computer, but it's not on his
[09:30] <Jowi> grusomhat, yeah. doesn't matter. I have a LCD connected with a DVI->vga. I need that option
[09:30] <eck> Seveas: how is it different?
[09:30] <grusomhat> Oh ok
[09:30] <xdude> joe4444:   put your grub on a floppy and lock it in a safe place
[09:30] <joe4444> i see... just seems like it should at least ask for a pwd
[09:30] <priich> joe4444, if the bad guy has that much physical access you're probably toast anyway.
[09:30] <Seveas> eck, normal unix asks for root password. Ubuntu asks for enter since it has no root password
[09:30] <Joshooa> I'm also new and trying to figure this out on my own and just guessing I have half a clue what I'm talking about
[09:30] <joe4444> true
[09:30] <eck> Joshooa: if you have a kernel module, you probably don't need to use ndiswrapper
[09:31] <Flannel> joe4444: on any computer, if you have physical access, you can boot a liveCD/whatever and do anything anyway.
[09:31] <grusomhat> Jowi: So how can I add that option to it?
[09:31] <VII> How do you autostart applications?
[09:31] <mojo> just curious but is smbfs with lfs buggy or something?  i discovered that i needed to explicityly mount with large file support when i hit the 2Gig file size limit the other day, but now that it is enabled I am wondering if I can trust it.  My one of my shares "locked up" ... smbfs,lfs mounted share went south but other smbfs mounts to same remote host worked fine.  un/remount seems okay but is it trustworthy?  should i be using something
[09:31] <mojo> else (cifsfs or cifsvfs or whatever)???
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> Whats the terminal command to unmount a DVD drive?.. isn't it unmount -f /drive or something like that
[09:31] <Flannel> joe4444: if you really want a password, you can add one
[09:31] <mike1o> is adobe apollo available for linux/ubuntu?
[09:31] <Flannel> IndyGunFreak: umount not unmount
[09:31] <t35t0r> umount /media/cdrecorder
[09:31] <Jowi> grusomhat, wait, i find you some docs
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: ok, so its just umount /drive ?
[09:31] <t35t0r> umount /media/dvdrecorder
[09:31] <t35t0r> umount /media/dvd
[09:31] <joe4444> no, i was just curious
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> t35t0r: thanks
[09:32] <grusomhat> Jowi: thanks
[09:32] <Jowi> grusomhat, what videocard do you have?
[09:32] <joe4444> anyone use Envy?
[09:33] <grusomhat> Jowi: Nvidia 7900gt
[09:33] <eck> Seveas: isn't it possible to do something similar with init=/bin/bash on other unix systems?
[09:33] <grusomhat> Jowi: Nvidia 7900gt the asus model
[09:33] <Seveas> eck, sure :)
[09:34] <VII> like, I want beryl and gaim to start at startup. How would I do that?
[09:34] <eck> well, i guess that just reinforces the concept that you don't want people mucking with your boot options :-)
[09:34] <blind> VII: what WM/DE?
[09:34] <mojo> VII: try putting them in your gnome session
[09:34] <Jowi> grusomhat, I don't find anything specific. try adding:         Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT"   under the DefaultDepth in the Section Screen
[09:34] <blind> er, obviously gnome or kde is you want beryl, nevermind
[09:35] <VII> blind: edgy & gnome
[09:35] <VII> is thats what you asked =)
[09:35] <Enselic`> VII: there are tutorials at beryl-project.org for beryl startup, and gaim in System -> Settings -> Sessions
[09:35] <VII> *if thats
[09:35] <mojo> VII: in GNOME with sdt ubuntu menu layout it's under system/preferences/sessions
[09:35] <grusomhat> Jowi: section screen? sorry I am new
[09:35] <VII> oh
[09:35] <mojo> ^std
[09:35] <VII> thanx
[09:35] <eck> Joshooa: the .ko files come with the kernel that you have installed, if your friend has the same kernel he/she should have the same kernel modules
[09:36] <Jowi> grusomhat, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" that is the configuration file. have a look at it and you will understand.
[09:36] <grusomhat> Ok
[09:36] <t35t0r> hehe take a look at xorg.conf and you will understand
[09:36] <t35t0r> wow!
[09:36] <t35t0r> if it was only that easy
[09:36] <Arafangion> Jowi: Haha :)
[09:36] <grusomhat> Can I edit xorg.conf file on the disk?
[09:36] <xdude> t35t0r:  I was thinking the same thing
[09:37] <Jowi> grusomhat, yes. the command I gave you will open it in a texteditor called gedit.
[09:37] <Arafangion> grusomhat: What do you need to do?
[09:37] <Jowi> Arafangion, add a CRT option to the screen section
[09:37] <grusomhat> Ok I will see what I can do, I'll be back with the results. Hopefully good :p
[09:38] <luke_> how do I create a nested login window?
[09:38] <Arafangion> Jowi: Ahh, that needs manual editing, indeed.
[09:38] <Joshooa> eck: Thank you we found it on his, not sure why modprobe didn't find it for him, but his wireless card is listed under eth1, is that right?
[09:39] <Joshooa> eck: And is also unassociated
[09:39] <mike1o> is adobe flex available for linux/ubuntu?
[09:40] <priich> luke_, nested ?
[09:40] <eck> Joshooa: that seems good. if it doesn't auto-associate you can set the wireless settings with iwconfig, and do dhcp with dhclient
[09:40] <ClinicalMistake> ~ubuntu
[09:41] <Joshooa> eck: How do you make it associate?
[09:41] <Frogzoo> !appdb | mike1o
[09:41] <ubotu> mike1o: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:42] <schultz> Question on a new install: I keep getting to the screen with "No root file system is defined" message and can't move beyond that. I'm using a daily build version of Fiesty since Edgy didn't like my 8800 vid card.
[09:42] <luke_> priich: in a window of it's own while you are using X normally
[09:42] <joe4444> anyone use Envy to install video drivers?  it keeps telling me it can't find module-assistant, and apt-get couldn't install it...
[09:42] <Flannel> mike1o: Seems.... Like it depends on what you want.  Some of them are RPMs, others are only Win/Mac: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/
[09:42] <eck> Joshooa: something like this: iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_wireless_network key wep_hex_key_here
[09:42] <eck> you can omit the key part if there is no encryption
[09:43] <Joshooa> eck: Okay, but why is it unassociated, shouldn't it say the wireless card name in that spot?
[09:43] <Jowi> !info module-assistant
[09:43] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[09:43] <Joshooa> eck: And why is wireless on eth, I thought eth was wired
[09:43] <Jowi> joe4444, you need to enable universe repo
[09:44] <priich> mike1o, that is a complicated question. Flex is really an umbrella of technologies. The flexbuilder ide is an eclipse plugin and should be available. The dataservices, well there are open source alternatives running on j2ee servers etc. Dunno about the official ones.
[09:44] <eck> Joshooa: somehow udev/iwconfig and the module collude to pick an interface name, i'm not sure how
[09:44] <joe4444> Jowi, how?  i only know a little bit about linux, and most of that is from CentOS
[09:44] <eck> Joshooa: in the unassociated spot it should say the wireles network you have associated with
[09:44] <TimothyP> Hello, using Feisty 7.04 latest, herd. In english install OpenOffice has spelling libraries for some languages, in the dutch version of ubuntu it does not and can't seem to install any either ......
[09:45] <billy> would I have to edit my partitions *before* installing another OS for a dual boot system, or will the installer allow me to edit the partitions without breaking ubuntu.  Seems like doing it with the installer would render my current fstab null and void.  Any thoughts?
[09:45] <Joshooa> eck: I thought that's what ESSID was
[09:45] <Jowi> !universe | joe4444
[09:45] <ubotu> joe4444: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:45] <coltrane> hi everybody
[09:45] <maboroshi> hello. when upgrading, I get prompted because my diskspace is nearly used... I guess they mean the /dev directory? what can I do about it?
[09:45] <eck> Joshooa: yeah it is, i guess i was confused about where it was displaying not associated
[09:45] <mike1o> priich, right. so combining ajax, flash etc... that should become flex... except that flex builder probably integrates them all in one... I wonder if that's possible in eclipse
[09:46] <eck> maboroshi: use df -h and see which filesystem it is
[09:46] <Joshooa> eck: Ok, yeah unassociated it after eth1 but before essid
[09:46] <blind> Okay, that was weird... I'm trying to run a TwinView off my GeForce 5200FX card.. it's only displaying on my TV, and not my monitor. I load Quake III, both are displaying the game. close the game, the monitor turns off again.
[09:46] <Joshooa> eck: How can i make it recognize that driver file we found earlier?
[09:47] <eck> Joshooa: it is already loaded, if it wasn't the interface wouldn't be in iwconfig at all
[09:47] <eck> Joshooa: i think you need to do dhclient now
[09:48] <nertzy> i'm a longtime linux user new to ubuntu - is there an easy way to see which rc script services are currently running, comparable to something like rc-status on Gentoo?
[09:48] <Joshooa> eck: Okay, it's otateossian that I am helping with this, but I have a similiar issue with a different card
[09:49] <Joshooa> eck: Mine says my card name though, and it's under ra0 not eth1
[09:49] <mojo> wow wee was there a netsplit or something a few minutes back?  it took me forever to get back in...
[09:49] <maboroshi> eck: yeah found it. can I give it some more space?
[09:49] <Joshooa> eck: Would depmod be of any help?
[09:49] <TraceGreen> hello, can i use fsck to check windows's partition? such as fat32 etc.
[09:50] <ClinicalMistake> nertzy: Not sure, I know this sounds silly but have you tried the forums?  Im kind of new to ubuntu also :/
[09:50] <TraceGreen> are there any tools to check windows partition in linux?
[09:50] <eck> maboroshi: if you delete some files, or resize the partitions... usually apt-get clean will free up a lot of space, but that will delete all the things you downloaded for your upgrade, so you'd have to redownload them
[09:50] <nertzy> ClinicalMistake: i've looked a little but not too hard, i was hoping someone might know quickly off the top of their head ;)
[09:50] <nertzy> time to dig into the forums
[09:50] <ClinicalMistake> TraceGreen: wouldn't the fstab has that info?
[09:50] <eck> maboroshi: try du -sh /var/cache/apt/
[09:51] <ClinicalMistake> Yeah Sorry!  :D I used to use gentoo before ubuntu also
[09:51] <Organizm> wow... are there really nearly a thousand people in here!?
[09:51] <ClinicalMistake> but I wanted something a little easier to install for my laptop
[09:51] <maboroshi> eck: what would that do?
[09:51] <eck> Joshooa: maybe, i'm not sure
[09:51] <blind> Okay, I'm trying to run a TwinView off my GeForce 5200FX card.. it's only displaying on my TV, and not my monitor. I load Quake III, both are displaying the game. close the game, the monitor turns off again.. any clue why only Quake would invoke my monitor to display?
[09:51] <OMGLAZERS> Can anyone recommend an image mounting program similar to the Daemon Tools for Windows?
[09:51] <eck> maboroshi: see how much space apt is using up with the .deb files it is caching
[09:51] <eck> you might be able to free up enough space from old files my cleaning that
[09:51] <eck> !iso
[09:51] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:51] <mojo> Organizm: yeah it's a busy chan... when it went silent on me a few minutes back i *knew* i must have gotten disconnected.  it is never quiet! :D
[09:51] <Ademan> is there anything on linux that will let me open a *.bin/*.cue image file? (cd image that is)
[09:52] <blind> Ademan: iirc, you can mount the... cue? file.. as long as it's in the same DIR as the bin, obviously.
[09:52] <eck> nertzy: afaik you have to keep track of things you started/stopped manually, but if you find something in the forums let us know :-)
[09:52] <blind> that SHOULD let you read the contents..
[09:52] <Ademan> hrm i'll try it, any idea what fs i should use?
[09:53] <blind> Ademan, I haven't done it in a while, i haven't a clue
[09:53] <eck> Ademan: iirc, you need to convert it to a .iso. there are several programs that will do this, just google it
[09:53] <RagingBull> I just upgraded my OS from Dapper to 6.10 and now my printer isn't recognized
[09:53] <RagingBull> the drivers are installed
[09:53] <mojo> Ademan: I know that k3b will burn them, and since you can burn to .iso you can then mount the iso as a filesystem or read it with the archive manager... but id on't know if the archive manager will read bin/cue or not
[09:53] <RagingBull> any idea what happened?
[09:53] <Ademan> ah burn to iso sounds perfect
[09:54] <Organizm> heh
[09:54] <Ademan> k3b refuses to burn it to dvd (says ISO only) and it's too big for a cd
[09:54] <eider> Hi. I've just installed ubuntu (6.10) but can't get sound. Can you help?
[09:54] <TraceGreen> ClinicalMistake, which info?
[09:54] <blind> !sound | eider
[09:54] <ubotu> eider: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:54] <mojo> Ademan: it *may* be possible to convert with mksisofs but that would require reading up on it
[09:55] <Ademan> hrm i'll check that out as well
[09:55] <Ademan> thanks
[09:55] <ClinicalMistake> TraceGreen: the fstab table should have the information on what your partitions are and what they are formatted to.  Is that the data you wanted?
[09:55] <blind> Ademan: you could also try nautilus' burning program (im pretty sure it gives an option to burn to ISO)
[09:55] <eck> Ademan: i have used this before: http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[09:55] <eck> compile with gcc bin2iso.c -o bin2iso
[09:56] <grusomhat1> Jowi: i am in ubuntu now. I have open xorg.conf with gedit but it's all blank!
[09:56] <Ademan> thanks eck, yeah :-) i'm a compsci major, i've wrestled with gcc plenty :-)
[09:56] <TraceGreen> ClinicalMistake, thanks
[09:56] <Ademan> grusomhat1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:56] <grusomhat1> yeah
[09:56] <ClinicalMistake> TraceGreen: NP, I hope that works out for you! :D
[09:56] <Ademan> grusomhat1: yet you have video? strange, how long has it been empty?
[09:57] <maboroshi> eck: looking at the df table again I saw that the filesystems are not full at all. one partition is full but that doesn't belong to me and I just misread it
[09:57] <grusomhat1> I haven't installed ubuntu yet. It's running from cd at the moment
[09:57] <grusomhat1> Could that be why?
[09:58] <Ademan> grusomhat1: shouldn't be a problem
[09:58] <grusomhat1> Ademan: So it shouldn't be blank? strange
[09:58] <Ademan> how'd you open the file?
[09:58] <eck> maboroshi: and the graphical installer is complaining? if that is the case, i don't know how to make it be quiet
[09:58] <Ademan> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:59] <grusomhat1> Ademan: I went into terminal and typed in what you just wrote
[09:59] <blind> Okay, I'm trying to run a TwinView off my GeForce 5200FX card.. it's only displaying on my TV, and not my monitor. I load Quake III, both are displaying the game. close the game, the monitor turns off again.. any clue why only Quake would invoke my monitor to display?
[09:59] <RagingBull> any idea why my printer isn't working after up-grading to 6.10
[09:59] <Jowi> grusomhat1, yeah. i didn't know you were on the live cd
[09:59] <Ademan> crazy, definitely shouldn't be blank, double check for typo's?  because if you misspelled it it would open a blank file with the name you gave
[10:00] <Ademan> that's the only logical explanation i can offer
[10:00] <Ademan> ..unfortunately...
[10:00] <yomm_> How do I remove a string in Firefox that I set with "about:config" ?
[10:00] <Jowi> grusomhat1, you probably didn't type in the filename correctly. "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf". lower/uppercase is important
[10:00] <ClinicalMistake> RagingBull: do you have the correct driver selected for it?
[10:00] <Ademan> eck: man that program is TINY, pretty cool little utility though
[10:00] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake: Yes
[10:00] <maboroshi> eck: so maybe it's not a problem at all. thanks for helping
[10:00] <Askar> Hi! When I update via the updatemanager, it deletes the oldversion right?
[10:01] <blind> eck: definitely great to have, do you mind if i share it?
[10:01] <grusomhat1> Ademan: ok Well it was the fact that numlock is default off so when I typed in 11 it didn't show up
[10:01] <grusomhat1> Ok I have it open now and it's not blank :D
[10:01] <Ademan> :-) good to hear
[10:01] <blind> haha that explains it, grusomhat1
[10:01] <ClinicalMistake> RagingBull: Maybe you need to get an updated version? If it's still old, it might not be compatible with the latest version
[10:02] <grusomhat1> Jowi: what am I looking for again?
[10:02] <Jowi> grusomhat1, if you're on the live cd and have nvidia card you will only have the standard driver as well. what problem are you experiencing exactly?
[10:02] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake: I checked in the synaptic and it appears to be the most up to date
[10:02] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake: I'll start there and check again
[10:03] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake: It's like it's not even detecting it's plugged in via usb
[10:03] <joshjosh> how do i see the amount of free space on my system?
[10:03] <ClinicalMistake> RagingBull:the USB ports arent a problem are they?
[10:03] <grusomhat1> Jowi: Well when I start it up it's allright but once it loads goes really dark and strange and unreadable. The only way I can see it now is through my tv which plugs straight into the dvi plug
[10:03] <blind> joshjosh: in terminal? type df -h
[10:03] <mike1o> priich, actually flex builder is not indispensable for building RIA's
[10:03] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake : no
[10:03] <mikedoty> Do I have to recompile Mplayer in order to use the xvid codec with it, or is there an easier way?  (Some sort of config file?)
[10:03] <joshjosh> thanks mate
[10:04] <RagingBull> ClinicalMistake : the usb mouse is working
[10:04] <eck> blind: it's not mine :-)
[10:04] <saladin> has anyone come across this error while installing edgy : no common cd-rom drive detected"
[10:04] <blind> mikedoty: i don't believe so, should just have to install the codec. try installing w32codec(s) (not sure if it has an s, it's in the repos)
[10:04] <Jowi> grusomhat1, ah. Section "Screen". add this line under DefaultDepth... Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT"
[10:04] <grusomhat1> Jowi: I would just install it with my tv as a screen and work it out later but it's all streched on my tv because it's widescreen and big
[10:05] <blind> grusomhat1: im in half the boat you are. i've got my nvidia card displaying GREAT on my TV...
[10:05] <priich> mike1o,  nah. But you if you're gonna do them in flash then you need a debug version of flash client or it will get pretty nasty. Adobe is working on it though.
[10:05] <blind> but I can't get it to display on my monitor AND my TV, which is what I want.
[10:05] <RagingBull> wierd
[10:06] <RagingBull> can't update from
[10:06] <RagingBull> update mgr
[10:06] <kane77> I just heard about quake-like console (yakuake) is there an alternative for gnome?
[10:06] <ClinicalMistake> RagingBull: Worst case is that you could perhaps check for another 3rd party driver
[10:06] <grusomhat1> blind: well you're lucky
[10:06] <tunganet> how do i check what my local ip of my machine is for my router?
[10:06] <RagingBull> check this error out from the update mgr
[10:06] <blind> grusomhat1: not really. it's simple to display out on the TV, from what I've added to my xorg. would you like to see it?
[10:06] <RagingBull> Not al updates can be installed
[10:07] <Jowi> brb grusomhat1 need to prepare a snack for my hooligan kid
[10:07] <mojo> eck, Ademan ... i'm gonna have to get that myself.. could be very useful to me as well
[10:07] <grusomhat1> jowi: ok
[10:07] <cindrivan1> hello
[10:07] <RagingBull> Run a distribution upgrade, to install as many updates as possible, This can be caused by an uncomplete upgrade, unofficial software packages or by running a devlopment ver.
[10:07] <Ademan> mojo: just for the record bin2iso SourceFile.bin DestFile.iso    is the proper usage
[10:07] <saladin> has anyone come across this error while installing edgy : no common cd-rom drive detected"
[10:07] <priich> mike1o, if you're curious adobe labs usually has pretty up to date info. (i frequently check in there how project Mars is doing. (PDF in XML))
[10:07] <Ademan> bin2iso SourceFile.bin is also acceptable, you get SourceFile.iso out of it :-)
[10:08] <mojo> Ademan: right on... sounds like a winner
[10:08] <mike1o> priich, what about the eclipse plug-in? it's declared as available for windows and mac only... shouldn't that be cross-platform?
[10:08] <mike1o> priich, do u have a link for that?
[10:08] <mojo> Ademan: but not in repositories, huh?  i couldn't find it....
[10:08] <Ademan> mojo: yeah :-) it segfaults if you pass different args though
[10:08] <kokobadung007> alow
[10:08] <kokobadung007> am nu user ubuntu
[10:08] <Ademan> mojo: nope, it's a single file of c code, and it's not very forgiving
[10:08] <mojo> Ademan: lol
[10:09] <priich> mike1o, adobe labs ? http://labs.adobe.com/
[10:09] <grusomhat1> blind: Umm I will ask to see it a little later once I get this sorted out. What type of tv do you have by the way?
[10:09] <blind> grusomhat1: http://blindx.net/nvtvoutxorg.txt
[10:09] <priich> mike1o, http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_2_for_Linux
[10:09] <Ademan> i think it wouldn't be bad as a tiny little library, with a better frontend to it
[10:09] <mike1o> priich, ok :-)
[10:09] <blind> I'm just running a little 20" through an S-Video connection
[10:09] <blind> off a GeForce 5200FX
[10:10] <grusomhat1> blind: ahh ok. At the moment I have it through my 32" and it's giving me a sore neck looking up at it.
[10:10] <priich> mike1o, I still prefer java webstart though. Never did get along with ecma/java/action-script and activex always was a pain.
[10:10] <blind> grusomhat1: what is the problem?
[10:11] <grusomhat1> It's all streched and off screen
[10:11] <mike1o> priich, is that adobe also?
[10:11] <grusomhat1> But I am getting a soar neck because it's right in front of me and up
[10:11] <grusomhat1> sore*
[10:11] <blind> grusomhat1: and if you use the mouse to the edge, does it scroll?
[10:11] <grusomhat1> Nope
[10:12] <blind> Hm.
[10:12] <blind> There's an OverScan option.. or something you can put in the xorg. lemme look it up
[10:12] <priich> mike1o, webstart ? No that is Sun Java.
[10:12] <grusomhat1> blind: I have problems getting it to display properly in windows aswel so. But I am not so worried about that at the moment as I am  trying to get it displaying through my computer monitor first
[10:13] <tunganet> what do i type in the terminal to get the same result as typing "ipconfig" in windows?
[10:13] <blind> grusomhat1: so you want to... get it working on both your TV and monitor at the same time?
[10:13] <blind> tunganet: ifconfig
[10:13] <priich> tunganet, ifconfig
[10:13] <blind> beat you :P
[10:13] <tunganet> thanks
[10:13] <priich> heh
[10:14] <grusomhat1> blind: I want to get it working on my computer monitor by itself. I am just running through the tv because that's the only way to see it at the moment
[10:14] <blind> oh. well then we do not share a common interest.
[10:14] <tunganet> um wheni type ifconfig which one is my ip to my router? =\
[10:14] <blind> i wonder why it wouldn't display out to a monitor, but it does to a TV, though.
[10:14] <blind> tunganet: are you using a wired or wireless connection?
[10:15] <tunganet> blind: wired
[10:15] <blind> most routers use an IP addres starting with 192.168 (at least linksys and netgear do)
[10:16] <tunganet> inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255
[10:16] <grusomhat1> blind: I think it must have something to to with the fact that the video card only has dvi plugs so the tv runs alright because it's plugged straight into the dvi. Where as the monitor has to run through a dvi-agp adaptor.
[10:16] <blind> linksys? :] 
[10:16] <tunganet> so in this case..255?
[10:16] <blind> no, 100
[10:16] <tunganet> oh
[10:16] <tunganet> okay
[10:17] <blind> grusomhat1: dvi-agp?
[10:17] <VII> Is it hard to get tv-out to work on ubuntu?
[10:17] <blind> dvi-vga, perhaps?
[10:17] <blind> VII: to work? no.
[10:17] <grusomhat1> grr I keep getting that mixed up
[10:17] <blind> to work how you want it? perhaps.
[10:17] <grusomhat1> Yes VGA*
[10:17] <blind> ah, okay
[10:17] <VII> blind, I want it cloned
[10:17] <blind> VII: me too.
[10:18] <VII> oh..
[10:18] <blind> VII: right now it's running on just my TV, my monitor won't turn on except for when I load Quake O_o
[10:18] <grusomhat1> grusomhat1, ah. Section "Screen". add this line under DefaultDepth... Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT"| Ok I have done that now what?
[10:18] <Arafangion> blind: Nice.
[10:18] <blind> I've been googling and googling, and asking here. Haven't received anything here, yet though, and very little googling.
[10:18] <grusomhat1> oh yeah he said brb nevermind then I will wait
[10:19] <VII> blind, searched through the ubuntuforum?
[10:19] <puccio> hello, I was wondering how can I do (and if it is risky) to shorten my / partition and enlarge my /home one. They are one next to each other on the partition table (/, /home, /swap)
[10:19] <blind> VII: started to, there's so many different lines different people have used.
[10:19] <grusomhat1> I'm just glad that the internet worked easily otherwise I would be going from windows to linux trying to get this sorted :0
[10:20] <blind> grusomhat1: after you add that, save the file and CTRL+ALT+Backspace. That restarts X, it'll bring you back to your login screen
[10:20] <VII> blind, yeh, Im looking around in there, not easy to find what we're looking for
[10:20] <grusomhat1> Ok
[10:20] <blind> VII: what card do you have?
[10:20] <Jowi> grusomhat1, save the file and press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart xorg (I hope that will work on the live cd. I am not sure)
[10:20] <blind> guess it did, Jowi :P
[10:20] <VII> blind, geforce 6800 ultra
[10:21] <luke_> how do I take a snapshot of KDM?
[10:21] <blind> VII: ah, im on a 5200FX
[10:21] <Jowi> heh
[10:21] <blind> luke_: there's many tools you can use to take a screenshot.
[10:21] <grusomhat_> blind: ok did that now what?
[10:21] <blind> scrot, import, i know gnome has gnome-screenshot, but i don't know the KDE equivalent.
[10:21] <luke_> blind, can you name one that will let me take a screenshot of KDM?
[10:21] <blind> grusomhat_: still not working?
[10:21] <Jowi> success grusomhat_ ?
[10:22] <grusomhat_> jowi blind: Nope
[10:22] <Jowi> grusomhat_, the monitor is connected?
[10:22] <grusomhat_> It's still all screwed up
[10:22] <grusomhat_> from the little I can see of it on the monitor the mouse isn't showing up
[10:23] <Jowi> grusomhat_, yeah but is it the LCD that is connected now or the TV?
[10:23] <grusomhat_> How can I change the color bit?
[10:23] <blind> luke_: scrot and import will probably serve your purpose, but they're command line utils, you have to type the destination. example: scrot -d 1 /home/yourname/file.png  # -d 1 = delay, one second.
[10:23] <linxeh> scribz: on my kde I have "Utilities -> Take Screenshot", but it might be a gnome util I have loaded in
[10:23] <grusomhat_> Jowi: they are both still connected
[10:23] <linxeh> scribz: ahh, on Graphics - > KScreenCapture
[10:23] <Jowi> grusomhat_, that probably won't work very well. how are they both connected?
[10:23] <grusomhat_> Should I try and unplug the tv and restart xorg?
[10:24] <luke_> blind, thanks, I'll try it
[10:24] <ronald> hi... lagi ngapain
[10:24] <Jowi> grusomhat_, I would.
[10:24] <grusomhat_> Ok I will give it a shot
[10:24] <blind> grusomhat_: both the TV and the monitor are off the same card, correct?
[10:24] <linxeh> where on earth did I get scribz from :o
[10:24] <Jowi> grusomhat_, they have different refresh rates probably.
[10:24] <blind> linxeh: i was wondering that myself.
[10:24] <linxeh> I meant Luke I think :)
[10:25] <linxeh> I'm still half asleep! :)
[10:25] <Huffalump> Is there a way to re-initialize by sound card?  Normally it works just fine, of course.  But every once in a blue moon (like now) when I boot up... there's just no sound.
[10:25] <Joshoo1> If I use iwconfig to enter in my ESSID and KEY, how do I know it will save those after I reboot my computer?
[10:25] <blind> Joshoo1: you try it and find out? /shrug
[10:26] <Joshoo1> And if it doesn't, how can I make it?
[10:26] <Jowi> Huffalump, you can try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:26] <Huffalump> In Windows, just for example, I could find the hardware listed under Devices, then deactivate/reactivate (basically re-initializing) it.  And then it should be working....
[10:26] <Huffalump> Jowi, let me try that.
[10:26] <linxeh> Huffalump: you have this problem in Windows too ?
[10:26] <grusomhat_> blind, Jowi: still no lucj
[10:26] <blind> Darn, grusomhat_
[10:26] <grusomhat_> Where is the monitor settings?
[10:26] <lisapc> where can I get the latest Kbuntu torrent please?
[10:26] <linxeh> lisapc: www.kubuntu.org ?
[10:26] <Huffalump> linxeh - No, never a problem in Windows.  Just an example of how to go about fixing it there.... an analogy
[10:26] <linxeh> Huffalump: k
[10:27] <lisapc> linxeh im asking
[10:27] <linxeh> lisapc: and I'm telling
[10:27] <Frogzoo> Joshoo1: it won't - you need to set them up in /etc/network/interfaces I think
[10:27] <Askar> How do I know if I have a 3d accelerated card?
[10:27] <blind> oooh, i know this one.
[10:27] <blind> it
[10:27] <lisapc> is this the latest kbuntu?  [   ]  feisty-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[10:27] <Huffalump> Jowi - there were no errors during the restart, but the sound does not work
[10:27] <linxeh> lisapc: if you want the beta version
[10:28] <grusomhat_> blind: Is there anywhere I can make sure it's set to 32 bit?
[10:28] <Jowi> grusomhat_, how are the screens connected? to the same video card or svideo or what exactly...?
[10:28] <linxeh> well it isnt even beta
[10:28] <blind> uh... g... something.. you have to grep something, Askar, but i don't remember what..
[10:28] <saladin> has anyone come across this error while installing edgy : no common cd-rom drive detected"
[10:28] <lisapc> linxeh is this latets?  Download Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) ?
[10:28] <Joshoo1> Frogzoo: Was that to me?
[10:29] <linxeh> lisapc: the latest fully supported version is Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - if you want a version that will be supported for another 2 years you are best off installing 6.06
[10:29] <Frogzoo> Joshoo1: if it starts with 'Joshoo1' - what do you think?
[10:29] <grusomhat_> Jowi: they are connected to the same video card. The tv is plugged directly in the second Dvi plug with a DVI-HDMI cable and the monitor is plugged into the first DVI plug with a DVI-VGA adaptor
[10:30] <blind> and don't even think of upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 if you have things installed that aren't in the repos. whooowee that was fun.
[10:30] <Joshoo1> Frogzoo: That you typed Josh and hit tab
[10:30] <Joshoo1> Frogzoo: cause I think you answered my question about the network card remembering my ESSID and KEY
[10:30] <z9999> We're trying to get Ubuntu 6.06 to play all the various audio/video files we have and have succeeded in getting Totem to play some and VLC to play some but have others that neither can play and get an error that we are missing the required codec. What we would like to know is where are the codecs installed in Ubuntu? And is there an easy way to install a missing codec when we determine one...
[10:30] <z9999> ...is needed?
[10:30] <blind> grusomhat_: tried switching em?
[10:30] <Jowi> grusomhat_, hmmm. and you get picture on both screens but distorted?
[10:30] <Joshoo1> Frogzoo: And I didn't see Joshoo1 typing
[10:31] <blind> z9999: mplayer & w32codecs
[10:31] <Huffalump> If I were to reboot Ubuntu, then I 'know' the sound would come back (as I've solved it that way in the past)
[10:31] <Jowi> !codecs | z9999
[10:31] <ubotu> z9999: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:31] <grusomhat_> Yeah the picture on the monitor is incredibly dark and unreadable.
[10:31] <blind>  apt-get install those and you should be able to run anything through mplayer.
[10:31] <grusomhat_> blind: what was that link you posted earlier?
[10:31] <grusomhat_> I think I might have an idea
[10:31] <blind> grusomhat_: http://blindx.net/nvtvoutxorg.txt
[10:31] <Huffalump> blind - I had a .bin file that mplayer wouldn't play but VLC would
[10:31] <Jowi> grusomhat_, and you can't adjust the gamma/brightness/contrast on the monitor itself?
[10:32] <olivia> hello all
[10:32] <blind> Huffalump: that's the magic of the word should? :P
[10:32] <Huffalump> heh
[10:32] <z9999> blind: Is mpllayer another player we have to install? And someone told us 2 days ago that we can't add w32codecs, and if we can how do we find them and install them?
[10:33] <olivia> i am on an imac and there are no alt-keys. how can i map the apple-keys to the alt-keys?
[10:33] <grusomhat_> blind: what's the Viewport 0 0?
[10:33] <Frogzoo> Joshooa: google 'essid /etc/network/interfaces'
[10:33] <blind> grusomhat_: something i saw somewhere. hasn't seemed to change anything.
[10:33] <grusomhat_> Jowi: I can but it doesn't make a difference
[10:33] <grusomhat_> blind: ok
[10:33] <blind> z9999: mplayer is another player, and w32codecs should be in the repos... uh maybe multiverse/universe.
[10:34] <mikedoty> I'm completely lost.  I tried to install the gxine player, but it resists.  I do:  sudo apt-get install gxine.  It replies:   gxine: Depends: libxine1 (>= 1.1.2-5) but it is not going to be installed
[10:34] <mikedoty> openmotif: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6-10) but it is not installable
[10:34] <mikedoty> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:34] <blind> !info w32codecs
[10:34] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:34] <grusomhat_> Jowi: It displays all right at the first screen. That is the screen that ask if you wish to install ubuntu
[10:34] <blind> ahh, it's in seveas' repos
[10:34] <Joshooa> Frogzoo: Thanks
[10:34] <Jowi> grusomhat_, strange. I have no clue.
[10:34] <grusomhat_> Jowi: and the loading screen displays alright but as soon as it loads the main bit it stuffs up
[10:35] <z9999> blind: OK, we'll look again. We're running Dapper (6.06) if that matters.
[10:35] <Huffalump> olivia - I found what looks to be the answer here: http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2006/08/13/running-ubuntu-under-parallels-desktop-for-mac/
[10:35] <Jowi> grusomhat_, ah. might be a driver problem then...
[10:35] <lisapc> error not authorised <-- I get this when trying to download things. why i get that?
[10:36] <Huffalump> lisapc - My guess would be that your usertype doesn't have permission to download.
[10:36] <grusomhat_> Jowi: is that fixable before I have actually installed ubuntu?
[10:36] <omeil> !iso
[10:36] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:36] <pavels> #ubuntu-cz
[10:36] <mikedoty> Why won't it install the gxine player?
[10:37] <Jowi> grusomhat_, I don't know. I only used the live cd to install. always got resolutions sorted out after install
[10:37] <blind> grusomhat_: if it is a driver issue, then it is fixable after you install ubuntu. you just install the binary drivers.
[10:37] <Huffalump> mikedoty - it will.  What, more specifically, is happening?
[10:37] <blind> Huffalump: gives him a dependancy error on xlib6g
[10:37] <mikedoty> I wish I could be more specific, but that's all that I can see.  I run the apt-get install gxine, and it fails and says it ... doesn't have those dependencies or whatnot.
[10:37] <blind> he pasted some stuff. ^^ up there
[10:37] <mikedoty> That's about the extent of its reposne
[10:38] <Huffalump> ah...
[10:38] <Huffalump> Try to run the .deb for xlib6g first?
[10:38] <grusomhat_> Jowi: Ok I will do my best to install it with my tv as the monitor. Hopefully I will be able to see everything
[10:39] <blind> Huffalump: i was thinking of saying that, but why would't it be in the repos if it was required for gxine?
[10:39] <daya> what is alternative commnad for wget to download
[10:39] <mikedoty> What is the xlib6g called?  xlib6g shows no matches in the repos, but xlib shows a whole bunch.  I wouldn't know which way to turn
[10:39] <blind> daya: i don't understand.
[10:39] <grusomhat_> Ok people wish me luck lol.
[10:39] <Huffalump> blind - It would seem so.  And I'm no rocket scientist, but usually get things to work without resorting to hacks.
[10:39] <blind> mikedoty: you may have to google it and find it somewhere to download.
[10:39] <Jowi> grusomhat_, and what blind suggested to switch the two screens does not help either?
[10:40] <daya> blind, I mean is there any tool like wget to download
[10:40] <Huffalump> mikedoty - What version of Ubuntu?  Are you i386 or amd64 or PPC?
[10:40] <grusomhat_> Be back on later with results.  Jowi: Nope
[10:40] <mikedoty> I just want xvid to work with mplayer / totem / w/e.  It is so much trouble :(
[10:40] <mikedoty> Hm
[10:40] <mikedoty> 6.10 I believe
[10:40] <mikedoty> 386
[10:40] <blind> daya: do you not like wget? im not sure what else there is
[10:40] <Huffalump> ok
[10:40] <Huffalump> mikedoty - Have you installed VLC?
[10:40] <Huffalump> it plays xvid no problem
[10:41] <mikedoty> Yeah, I have VLC, and it plays, but I have one that's in "HD" or some such thing
[10:41] <blind> mikedoty: if you just install the w32codecs (it's in seveas' repos) you can run pretty much anything through mplayer
[10:41] <Huffalump> w00t
[10:41] <NotchNick> if you repartition an ntfs filesystem will it harm the files?
[10:41] <mikedoty> ANd it plays ... er, "plays' very choppily
[10:41] <Huffalump> oh, well HD... that's encrypted.
[10:41] <Huffalump> DRM is not your friend.
[10:41] <rnalexander> I'm running a django install on Ubuntu, but I need to have something to send out the mail notifications, for some reason James (the apache mail server) is failing on me (aborted, core dumped) does anyone know of a simple mailsend server I can run on ubuntu (really, it's not for spamming, it's for sending notifications.)
[10:41] <blind> NotchNick: if you do it on linux, possibly.
[10:41] <NotchNick> blind: possibly?
[10:41] <blind> yes.
[10:41] <mikedoty> Well, I don't think it's encrypted content
[10:41] <mikedoty> It does play, I can see it
[10:41] <mikedoty> It just doesn't perform well
[10:42] <mikedoty> Where is seveas' repo?
[10:42] <blind> mikedoty: do you have the w32codecs installed?
[10:42] <blind> oh
[10:42] <blind> !seveas
[10:42] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:42] <mikedoty> No... I search apt-cache but didn't see it last time
[10:43] <blind> you're gonna have to add his repo to your sources.list or download the deb from the repo, if you do enough clicking :P
[10:43] <blind> make sure if you grab a mirror you grab a full one, because there are some that only have certain things.
[10:43] <mikedoty> How can I add the repo to my source list?
[10:43] <blind> one second.
[10:44] <blind> if you go to that link, at the bottom it lists things like "deb http://seveas.ubuntu.....' you wanna copy those two lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list (you need to be sudo to edit that file)
[10:44] <blind> just make sure you take out the space where that globe may be, that'
[10:45] <blind> s part of the html, shouldn't be in your sources.list
[10:45] <Ademan> is there any way to recover files you've deleted (and you've emptied the trash)  i'm pretty sure they shouldn't have been overwritten
[10:45] <olivia> Huffalump, thank you
[10:46] <Ademan> that *.bin *.cue pair i had to "copy" over samba to my laptop with a cd burner, and apparently it "moved" instead of copy, and then i deleted it on my laptop... :-/
[10:46] <blind> Ademan: AH! that bites,
[10:47] <Huffalump> olivia - glad it worked!
[10:47] <Ademan> i know
[10:47] <Ademan> bugs me to no end
[10:47] <Huffalump> mikedoty - bookmark this just in case - http://ubuntu-tutorials.blogspot.com/2007/02/install-and-enable-dvd-playback-and.html
[10:47] <Ademan> i coulda sworn nautilus defaults to "copy" when it's between different partitions and drives... i would have thought samba would have behaved the same wayu
[10:47] <yogafart> can anyone suggest a IDE?
[10:47] <Ademan> way* even
[10:47] <Ademan> yogafart: what language?
[10:47] <Huffalump> yeah
[10:48] <yogafart> C/C++
[10:48] <Ademan> kdevelop, anjuta
[10:48] <Huffalump> Watch out for the "vi" crowd
[10:48] <olivia> Huffalump, no, it didn't yet, but it leads me to the right direction
[10:48] <Ademan> actually i love vim, i think it's worth learning, i know i hated it for about a year, but i find myself typing vim commands in gedit now
[10:49] <Ademan> yogafart: i reccomend kdevelop as imho anjuta is broken
[10:49] <joe4444> has anyone successfully installed drivers for an ATI video card and/or configured dual monitors?
[10:49] <Ademan> joe4444: i couldn't even get the drivers to work at all...
[10:49] <priich> aint nothing wrong with vim but it might not be a RAD IDE.
[10:49] <mikedoty> I thought I had properly modified sources.list in /etc/apt/, but "apt-cache search w32codec" still doesn't turn up a result
[10:49] <yogafart> can kdevelop link gnome library?
[10:49] <mikedoty> Do I ineed some extra param / different command to search the seveas repo?
[10:50] <joe4444> i couldn't verify that the drivers were recognized as ATI (said Mesa), but i got my full resolution... the 2 displays just mirror each other instead of extending the desktop =/
[10:50] <Ademan> yogafart: yeah, if you're doing GNOME gui development anjuta might be nice though, since it integrates (poorly though) with glade, the gtk+ interface builder
[10:50] <Ademan> anjuta has always been super unstable for me, but you might have better luck
[10:50] <Ademan> try both though
[10:50] <blind> mikedoty: yeah, sorry
[10:51] <blind> mikedoty: after you save the file, sudo apt-get update
[10:51] <mikedoty> Oh, ok
[10:51] <Ademan> monodevelop is REALLY nice, but no c/c++ support just yet...
[10:51] <joe4444> Ademan, so what do you do, just live with a crappy resolution?
[10:51] <olivia> Huffalump, when you run xev and you press the right alt-key, what keysymbol does it give you?
[10:52] <Ademan> joe4444: i bought a budget nvidia card :-)
[10:52] <joe4444> heh, i think i may have to do the same
[10:52] <joe4444> any chance you've got dual displays?
[10:52] <Ademan> nope, but i've done it TV+normal display
[10:52] <Ademan> i'm not doing it currently though
[10:53] <joe4444> that seems to be almost as much of a pain as ATI drivers based on the forums i'm reading
[10:53] <blind> joe4444: i used to on a GeForce 5200FX
[10:53] <Ademan> joe4444: well xorg.conf is the devil, but once you get used to it it's not so terrible
[10:53] <blind> Ademan: you've done tv+monitor on an nvidia card? can you help me? :[
[10:53] <mikedoty> apt-get update seemed to 404 on the seveas stuff, either I did somethign wrong or that mirror is bad
[10:53] <Ademan> once i started feeling comfortable in xorg.conf i knew i was in deep :-p
[10:53] <Ademan> blind: i can try :-)
[10:53] <blind> mikedoty: a 404? probably the mirror is bad.
[10:53] <Ademan> what seems to be the problem
[10:54] <blind> Ademan: im trying to do tv+monitor.
[10:54] <blind> it's only working on my monitor.
[10:54] <blind> errrr
[10:54] <blind> TV
[10:54] <joe4444> i don't want to get comfortable with xorg.conf.... i just want this switch from XP to ubuntu to be worthwhile
[10:54] <Ademan> joe4444: you should be able to copy and paste most of the required xorg.conf parts
[10:54] <joe4444> i can't turn back now!
[10:54] <Ademan> (from tutorials and whatnot)
[10:54] <Ademan> blind: xorg.conf paste?
[10:55] <blind> ignorance is bliss, eh, joe4444? If it works, I don't care how it works, just that it does? :P
[10:55] <blind> Ademan: http://blindx.net/nvtvoutxorg.txt
[10:55] <mikedoty> 404 on the second mirror also.  Am I doing something wrong?  I added this to the end of sources.list: deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections \n deb-src http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections
[10:55] <joe4444> Ademan, i've tried that once, but i don't know if i started from a bad config b/c at first i tried a few different things just to get the ATI drivers working
[10:56] <Yalopa> hi
[10:56] <joe4444> i just reinstalled xubuntu, so i'm going to try it again and hopefully be able to revert to the original config without a fresh install =/
[10:56] <blind> mikedoty: you put a line break, and not actually \n, correct?
[10:56] <doza> hello
[10:56] <Yalopa> firt time install here
[10:56] <mikedoty> right, didn't want to spam the chat more than I am
[10:56] <doza> yes
[10:56] <blind> k, just making sure.
[10:56] <_Jaak_> how do i get the gnome-bluetooth tray icon?
[10:56] <Ademan> blind: in my experience you have to duplicate the device/screen/monitor sections (yeah xorg.conf is the devil)
[10:56] <blind> have you done the gpg steps on the page?
[10:56] <doza> wat is going on
[10:56] <mikedoty> No...
[10:57] <Yalopa> is there some kind of YAST tool in ubuntu?
[10:57] <blind> Ademan: duplicate? like, copy and paste so there's two of them?
[10:57] <Ademan> one set of device/screen/monitor for tv, one for your normal monitor
[10:57] <mikedoty> Oh
[10:57] <Ademan> blind: yeah except you'll probably change the refresh rate on the monitor, and probably resolution in the screen section to reflect the different outputs
[10:57] <mikedoty> Clearly I have no RTFM completely
[10:57] <mikedoty> Let me read a moment and if I still fail I'll bug some more ;)
[10:57] <Yalopa> some kind of general console based config and management tool
[10:57] <blind> Ademan: there is one thing though... when i load Quake III, it turns my monitor on, and i see it on both displays. when i close it, my monitor kicks back off.
[10:57] <Ademan> Yalopa: apt-get instead of yast (system->administration->synaptic package manager)
[10:58] <Ademan> Yalopa: oh command line? that'd be apt-get
[10:58] <doza> where can one find an affordable pc
[10:58] <livingdaylight> why am i being told to upgrade distro? I am already in the latest release - Edgy Eft
[10:58] <blind> dell, doza.
[10:58] <ekul`> !login
[10:58] <Ademan> blind: why don't you try duplicating the sections, that could be a bug in the nvidia drivers
[10:58] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[10:58] <Ademan> as far as i know it's not supposed to do that :-)
[10:58] <blind> true. i'll give it a try
[10:59] <ekul`> I installed kubuntu-desktop but now my loading screen is kubuntu, how do i make it say ubuntu instead?
[10:59] <blind> lemme put my bass down...
[10:59] <mikedoty> Ok.  list_of_sections did seem kind of out of place.  Should I just use all sections, or do I have a reason to not want to use all sections perhaps?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> can someone hightlight my nick? Just testing irssi config here...
[10:59] <thoreauputic> *highlight
[10:59] <Ademan> thoreauputic:
[11:00] <thoreauputic> thanks :)
[11:00] <Ademan> np
[11:00] <Yalopa> hmm clearly I need an internet connection on the box
[11:00] <Ademan> Yalopa: some of the software is on the install cd
[11:01] <Ademan> but yeah an internet connection would be best
[11:01] <olivia> hello everyone. can anybody on x86 make a little test for me? run 'xev' in a terminal and then press the right alt-key. what keysymbol does it have? i want to map my apple-key to it, but i don't know it's exact name
[11:01] <livingdaylight> Can anyone tell me why my updater is telling me to upgrade distro?
[11:01] <joe4444> ekul`, you could install the entire ubuntu-desktop package
[11:01] <mikedoty> Arrr.  Ok, I see w32codecs now.  I get the xlib6g error still though.  Maybe that's on this seveas repo, I'll search for it
[11:01] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:01] <mikedoty> No, that was the one I have to google for I guess
[11:01] <blind> Ademan: should i keep all the stuff under my Device for "Second Monitor" ?
[11:02] <Ninjai> hello....if i installed dual boot 2 linux systems for example ubuntu + slax...and i booted ubuntu...my question is: if i did chroot /mnt/sda2 which is slax partition....all programs are installed under slax will work for me with that ?
[11:02] <livingdaylight> Madpilot : edgy eft
[11:02] <Ademan> blind: i don't see why not, it should all be compatible
[11:02] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, and you got a "New Version Available" button on your update manager?
[11:02] <kyja> why don't I have multiple instances of sounds ? example: play game and cant listen to mp3 collection at same time.
[11:03] <kane77> is there any uml program for ubuntu?
[11:03] <livingdaylight> Madpilot : noits just saying i can't install all updates. That i would have to upgrade distro
[11:03] <Askar> How do I do to update my edgy eft installation to feisty?
[11:03] <blind> k, restarting X, wish me luck
[11:03] <fulllefty> hello everyone, can anyone tell me howto setting an XGL or AIGLX on SiS305,I'm using Dapper Drake?
[11:03] <Ademan> kane77: several, dia for one
[11:03] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, got an unofficial/non-standard repositories enabled?
[11:03] <Ademan> kane77: umbrello also
[11:03] <Ademan> blind: hrm i'm looking a little closer at your xorg.conf, and i noticed your ConnectedMonitor option, is it supposed to have two options?
[11:04] <livingdaylight> Madpilot : i see...maybe
[11:04] <Ademan> i've honestly never seen that option before
[11:04] <blind> Ademan: no luck
[11:04] <mikedoty> olivia, I get keycode 113, but you wanted keysymbol, I don't see that.  THough I've established a tendenc to overlook the obvious
[11:04] <Ademan> hrm, paste of the new one?
[11:04] <blind> and yeah, thats the way i copy and pasted it >_>
[11:04] <Ademan> interesting, i'd never seen that
[11:04] <mikedoty> (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), maybe?
[11:04] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, reset your sources.list to official repos only. "cannot update all packages" seems to be apt-get's why of saying, "I'm confused..."
[11:05] <blind> Ademan: http://blindcam.sytes.net/xorg.conf.gah
[11:05] <Ademan> blind: you might try setting it up without xinerama first, then if that works it's just a matter of enabling Xinerama in your serverlayout
[11:05] <blind> Ademan: i don't want xinerama at all, i don't think. i just want the two screens to be the same thing.
[11:05] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, 'way of saying', not 'why...'
[11:06] <Ademan> blind: oh yeah, xinerama would make it like an "extended" version if that makes any sense, like one next to the other
[11:06] <livingdaylight> Madpilot : ok, thx
[11:06] <blind> yeah, i've done that before. i just want them to display the same thing.
[11:06] <joe4444> Ademan, that's what i want... do that for me?  =)
[11:06] <blind> TV for when i wanna lay in bed with my wireless keyboard >_>
[11:06] <joe4444> blind, i'll trade ya... mine mirrors quite well
[11:07] <mike1o> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <blind> joe4444: in a heartbeat.
[11:07] <Ademan> couple things, when you duplicate the device sections, you need to give it a different name :-)
[11:07] <blind> joe4444: actually.. why don't you gimme your xorg? >_>
[11:07] <Ademan> and second of all under device you should have "Screen 0" and "Screen 1"     in your first and second device sections
[11:07] <joe4444> default =)
[11:07] <Ademan> blind: i'm mauling your xorg.conf, you backed up the original... right? lol
[11:07] <blind> of course.
[11:07] <Ademan> dual head has always been kinda trial and error for me
[11:08] <Ademan> but i always win in the end lol
[11:08] <blind> eh, irssi's in screen, and that's the most painful thing to restart, so we're good.
[11:08] <blind> i can restart X all I want and irssi won't die :P
[11:09] <Ademan> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=517207  blind, shows "basically" how it should look, at least regarding duplicating the sections
[11:09] <joe4444> why oh why does apt-get have to tease me so... drops down to 2m remaining then jumps back up to 15m =(
[11:09] <Ademan> also the serverlayout at the bottom
[11:09] <Ademan> joe4444: you know they're trying to figure out a way to make apt-get p2p :-)
[11:09] <joe4444> cool
[11:09] <gxr1> hi can i ask a question?
[11:09] <mikedoty> How do I install this xlib6g thing?
[11:09] <yomm> !irssi
[11:09] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[11:09] <mikedoty> I downloaded a .deb file, xlib6g......deb
[11:09] <Ademan> bitchx as well
[11:10] <kyja> how can you make alsa multi threaded? so more than 1 application can use it
[11:10] <Ademan> !ask | grx1
[11:10] <ubotu> grx1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:10] <kyja> !alsa
[11:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:10] <Ademan> kyja: alsa shouldn't have a problem with multiple programs, is it possible the program in question is oss?
[11:10] <Ademan> what program in particular?
[11:11] <mikedoty> Heh, newlinuxuser.com to the rescue.  Sad that i still need this 5 or 6 months into ubuntu
[11:11] <gxr1> k... i;m going to install ubuntu on an external hard disk ... where should i install the GRUB on  - the external hdd or internal hdd?
[11:11] <kyja> Ademan, any program. say I play a game but cant listen to mp3's
[11:11] <kaso> A slightly non-ubuntu question here, but perhaps someone knows where i can look for infomation, when im writing apps with like java or something similar, how do i make it output colored console text in println() on linux?
[11:11] <Ademan> kyja: what games though? like doom 3 is oss
[11:12] <Ademan> kaso: i dunno if it exists in java, but ncurses helps with that sort of thing in c
[11:12] <Ademan> there's also a way to do it with like %COLOR or something, lemme grab a link
[11:12] <kaso> thank you
[11:12] <kyja> Ademan, no. say I play pingus and amerock or movie player wont work or useing java to play a game other things wont work
[11:12] <mikedoty> I enter:  sudo apt-get install xlib6g-dev_4.1.0-16woody7_all.deb
[11:12] <mikedoty> It replies:  Couldn't find package xlib6g-dev_4.1.0-16woody7_all.deb
[11:13] <mikedoty> But ... that's the darned freakin file I told it to use!  What am I doing wrongly?
[11:13] <Ademan> try launching pingus by aoss pingus, see if it works then
[11:13] <ungulation> hi all, sorry to butt-in like this... I have a networking problem, firefox can connect to the internet just fine, but i can not ping anything other than localhost and i can't ssh to another box
[11:13] <kyja> Ademan, ok thx
[11:14] <mikedoty> Oh, that was just talking about package manager.  That wasn't how to isntall a *.deb file
[11:14] <Ademan> aoss has a nasty habbit of crashing applications when they exit though, so be warned
[11:14] <mikedoty> How do I install a .deb file?
[11:14] <ungulation> if anyone has any ideas of what might be wrong i'd really appreciate your help
[11:14] <Ninjai> if i installed for example ubuntu + slax dual boot....and i am right now in ubuntu and doing: chroot /mnt/sda2 for example which stands for slax partition... what things will work and which wont work ??
[11:14] <Ninjai> all commandline programs will work except the gui ones ?
[11:14] <joe4444> mikedoty, double-click
[11:15] <joe4444> or (i think) dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:15] <Ademan> joe4444: yeah that's it
[11:15] <Ademan> blind: hows the dual head comming? have i just ruined you? :-p
[11:15] <gxr1> has anyone here installed ubuntu on an external HDD?
[11:15] <joe4444> w00t, CentOS user helping out ubuntu ppl =)
[11:16] <Ademan> kaso: http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/631241 shows how to print colored text as well
[11:16] <z9999> Trying to install w32codecs, but am unable to find where to retrieve it. Anyone capable of giving explicit instructions on how to accomplish this? We have tried following instructions from several forums to no avail, adding repositories, using apt-get, etc and would just like to complete this and be done.
[11:16] <kaso> thanks alot for that Ademan
[11:16] <WorkerII> I need help getting hsql running.
[11:17] <Ademan> isn't w32codecs in seveas?
[11:17] <mikedoty> That is what I have just been trying to do :P
[11:17] <mikedoty> w32codecs is 100% definitely in seveas
[11:17] <mikedoty> You just append a couple lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <mikedoty> deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas all
[11:18] <mikedoty> deb-src http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas all
[11:18] <Ademan> i assume you've done an apt-get update right z9999?
[11:18] <mikedoty> Then run "sudo apt-get update" in terminal
[11:18] <mikedoty> Then you have access to seveas
[11:19] <z9999> Assuming all the w32 responses are related to my question, we are running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, not edgy.
[11:19] <Ademan> z9999: you should be able to replace edgy-seveas with dapper-seveas
[11:20] <Ademan> *should*
[11:20] <Ademan> iirc seveas didn't exist for one release, i'm pretty sure it wasn't dapper though
[11:20] <bahr> Hi, I just switched my locale from the standard UTF8 to en_DK ISO-8859-1. I have an svn repository I want to update, and that works fine, but everytime I do an update i get this: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale
[11:20] <Ademan> blind: how'd it go?
[11:20] <bahr> svn: warning: environment variable LANG is en_DK ISO-8859-1
[11:20] <bahr> svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct
[11:20] <mikedoty> Sorry.  I was just trying to help.  I fumble aroundn with this pretty poorly
[11:20] <bahr> can somebody help me with that?
[11:20] <blind> Okay, well, I forgot to change the Screen name in my server layout
[11:20] <Libere> Issues with sound on a Vaio rb64g.  Running dapper drake, Card: HDA Intel Chip: SigmaTel STAC7661.  The volume works, but it's very low and very low quality.  Have tried both alsa 1.0.13 and 1.0.14rc3, same result.  Everything I've found online refers to a setting in the gnome volume manager called external amplifier, but I don't have that option.  Any ideas?
[11:20] <blind> and i needed a reboot because none of my function keys were working (CTRL+ALT+F1 = nothing)
[11:20] <Libere> (It sounds fine in windows)
[11:20] <Ademan> blind: :-/ well i think i'm off to bed, but best of luck, i hope i've been some sort of help lol
[11:21] <blind> just fixed my xorg, gonna just gotta start gdm up.
[11:21] <Ademan> if you need me to stick around for a couple more minutes i think i can
[11:21] <Ademan> though i'm not sure how much help i'm really being lol
[11:21] <blind> Ademan: nah man, go to bed, i appreciate the help :P
[11:21] <Ademan> np, hey i tried haha, night
[11:22] <ungulation> any ideas why i can't ping anything even though I am able to access websites in firefox?
[11:22] <dues> Hey, i have just experienced a most unusual bug... Compiled a small C file, made a few changes, recompiled and ran, and it displays some of the old output (printf strings), along with some of the new values... These don't even *exist* in the binary (And i've checked by copying to another server + running). Seems to be some weird caching bug - anyone have a clue?
[11:22] <mikedoty> Ok, thanks to joe4444 I managed to double click and install my .deb file -- let's see if I can remember that simple trick next time -- and apt-get is install w32codecs.  Hopefully this will finally allow me to run xvid files in mplayer/totem/w/e
[11:22] <saladin> has anyone come across this error while installing edgy : no common cd-rom drive detected"
[11:22] <WorkerII> I need help getting hsql running.  I installed the package .. but it doesn't run even if I do /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server start
[11:22] <mikedoty> f@#$
[11:22] <WorkerII> at least not for very long.
[11:22] <crimsun> xNinja: anyhow, it depends on a number of factors. The basic bits are important, namely Linux, klibc, udev, libc6.
[11:22] <WorkerII> Is anyone here able to help at all?
[11:22] <blind> Ademan: lmfao, exact opposite problem now. :P
[11:22] <mikedoty> The darned program still gives me the "can't play this file" error
[11:22] <WorkerII> blind: ha ha ha ha ha
[11:22] <blind> it's weird. in just the tty's, they both work. in X, only my monitor.
[11:22] <erUSUL> !anyone
[11:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:23] <blind> i don't get it :P
[11:23] <mikedoty> But now I can install gxine, maybe that will quench my desire for video playing
[11:23] <Ademan> blind: fun haha, but yeah, it's 2:30 am over here and i've got glorified highschool (junior college) tomorow lol
[11:24] <xNinja> crimsun humm let me finish installing ubuntu and tellu the results
[11:24] <blind> It's 5:30 over here. and i have work... :[
[11:24] <Yalopa> 11,30 :p
[11:24] <xNinja> 1:24pm
[11:25] <ekul`> !desktop
[11:25] <WorkerII> I need help getting hsql running.  I installed the package .. but it doesn't run even if I do /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server start (at least not for very long).  I have the 610 ubuntu .. (even though a bug on the CD makes it claim to be 606)
[11:25] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[11:25] <z9999> Ademan: We're making the necessary changes to sources.list and will try again.
[11:25] <Ademan> hey actually before i go, does anyone know if there's a graphical frontend to autoconf/automake files?   like so i could drag and drop files into a little window and they'd get added to the target, etc
[11:25] <hang3r> Can anyone tell me how to change the software update options, or at least the interval at which it checks. Because it seems to have stopped automatically checking for updates.
[11:25] <saladin> i am getting this error while tring to install edgy: " no common cd-rom drive detected"
[11:25] <blind> hey joe4444 can i see your xorg? I know you said it was the default, but I'd like to take a look.
[11:25] <Ademan> since when are window managers (aside from gnome kde and xfce) desktop environments?
[11:25] <joe4444> k just a sec...
[11:25] <blind> they aren't ;x
[11:26] <Ademan> first time i've seen ubotu be wrong :-)
[11:26] <blind> Computers can't be wrong. ;x
[11:26] <Ademan> the people who set that factiod were though :-)
[11:26] <blind> I won't go that far >_>
[11:26] <blind> lol
[11:27] <blind> hey Ademan one last thing before you go?
[11:27] <Ademan> sure, i keep saying i'm gonna go to sleep but i'm not anyways lol
[11:28] <blind> lol. in my ServerLayout section, only one of my screens is defined.. that's probably why it's not displaying on both, eh?
[11:28] <joe4444> blind, http://dpaste.com/6601/
[11:28] <Libere> Issues with sound on a Vaio rb64g. Running dapper drake, Card: HDA Intel Chip: SigmaTel STAC7661. The volume works, but it's very low and very low quality. Have tried both alsa 1.0.13 and 1.0.14rc3, same result. Everything I've found online refers to a setting in the gnome volume manager called external amplifier, but I don't have that option. Any ideas?
[11:28] <blind> thank you, joe4444
[11:28] <Ademan> blind: i wouldn't be suprised :-)
[11:28] <Errpast1> How do I find out what version of Ubuntu I am running.
[11:28] <CyBeRFiN> hello
[11:28] <eider> Got sound working. Thanks for references given earlier.
[11:29] <blind> Ademan: how should i set both? Screen "Screen0" "Screen1" --or both on separate lines?
[11:29] <aarohi> how do i copy files from one remote location to another remote directory on the same server using gedit?
[11:29] <aarohi> there seems to be no option
[11:29] <Ademan> blind: separate lines is how i've seen it
[11:29] <aarohi> err.. gftp
[11:29] <aarohi> not gedit
[11:29] <CyBeRFiN> could anyone tell me if ubuntu will run ok on a p3 500mhz 64mb ram laptop?
[11:29] <mikedoty> Thank you blind, Huffalump and joe4444 for your help in getting the seveas repository set up, the .deb file installed, and the w32codec installed.  I couldn't have done any of this without your help :)
[11:29] <blind> mikedoty: it's working? :D
[11:29] <joe4444> np
[11:29] <erUSUL> Libere: have you checked in edit>preferences? maybe the option youe looking for it's just disabled there
[11:29] <Ademan> and you can do all this "Screen0" RightOf "Screen1" crap, if you want, but you wanted them both in the same place right?
[11:29] <aarohi> how do i copy files from one remote location to another remote directory on the same server using gftp?
[11:29] <erUSUL> !sound > Libere
[11:29] <ungulation> cyberfin: you might want to try xubuntu instead, its not as resource intensive
[11:30] <CyBeRFiN> cool thnx
[11:30] <lesshaste> I just installed the thunderbird  lightning extension but... err... where is  it? I mean I can't see how to start it ??
[11:30] <blind> aarohi: try reading up on gftp
[11:30] <mikedoty> Yep, not in totem -- it doesn't work still -- but gxine plays the files pretty nicely.  :)
[11:30] <Errpast1> CyBeRFiN, I agree.  64mb sounds a little low
[11:30] <blind> mikedoty: i could never get anything to play in totem.
[11:30] <blind> mikedoty: but I'm glad you got it to work :D
[11:30] <Ademan> totem is terrible, use vlc or mplayer
[11:30] <Errpast1> blind, I had trouble with totem too
[11:30] <z9999> Ademan: Gettin a 404 error when running apt-get update on "deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-saveas all" and the deb-src one as well.
[11:31] <Errpast1> Ademan, thanks for mplayer suggestion.  I'll try it
[11:31] <Ademan> z9999: gimme one second
[11:31] <blind> z9999: have you done the gpg keys ?
[11:31] <ekul`> !effects
[11:31] <Ademan> shouldn't give a 404 for that though
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Ademan> !seveas
[11:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:31] <blind> Shouldn't, but mikedoty got the same thing.
[11:31] <Ademan> wierd
[11:31] <Ademan> maybe the mirror is down?
[11:31] <ekul`> whats that program to do window effects like dissolve?
[11:31] <blind> mikedoty: did your 404 on seveas' repos fix when you did the gpg?
[11:31] <joe4444> Ademan, did you ever try Envy to install ATI drivers?
[11:32] <aarohi> blind, do you have any idea?
[11:32] <ekul`> Envy == the bomb
[11:32] <Ademan> joe4444: naw, i gave up on my ati card long before i found out about envy
[11:32] <joe4444> ekul`, you have a Radeon or Nvidia?
[11:32] <Ademan> actually, i might have seen it back when it only supported nvidia
[11:32] <ekul`> Nvidia
[11:32] <blind> aarohi: i deal with command line ftp, prolly as simple as right click > copy, go to the new dir, right click > paste
[11:32] <luke_> how do I run KDM with Xephyr??
[11:32] <mikedoty> blind, yes, the mirror worked once I actually read the complete instructions and changed "list_of_sections" to "all" ;)
[11:32] <riaal> Im trying to change my booting screen resolution. But I can't find it in: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[11:32] <Libere> erUSUL: Yeah, checked that, not listed.
[11:32] <Errpast1> I'm using Evolution to connect to my email at work (exchange/imap).  It often freezes
[11:32] <z9999> blind: haven't added any gpg keys as we don't know them.
[11:32] <aarohi> blind, problem is, there IS no copy, cut, or paste
[11:33] <Errpast1> Any better mail clients, or suggestions on getting evolution to work?
[11:33] <Ademan> !seveas | z9999
[11:33] <ubotu> z9999: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:33] <aarohi> blind, could you direct me to the command line way of doing things?
[11:33] <aarohi> is there a package i should install for that?
[11:33] <luke_> !Zephyr
[11:33] <Ademan> it has a whole list of mirrors, one of them's gotta work :-)
[11:33] <blind> no. it comes built in.
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zephyr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <blind> just ftp yourserver
[11:33] <aarohi> after that? the cp, mv commands?
[11:33] <blind> yeah
[11:33] <luke_> !Xnest
[11:33] <aarohi> k
[11:33] <WorkerII> I need help getting hsql running.  I installed the package .. but it doesn't run even if I do /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server start (at least not for very long).  I have the 610 ubuntu .. (even though a bug on the CD makes it claim to be 606)
[11:33] <aarohi> thanks
[11:33] <ubotu> xnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 (edgy), package size 1295 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[11:33] <Libere> I've tried just about every google solution I can find.  Still, awful sound.
[11:34] <riaal> Im trying to change my booting screen resolution. But I can't find it in: /boot/grub/menu.lst.. anyone?
[11:34] <Ademan> blind: i've actually wondered about that to, how do you differentiate between files on the remove server and local ones?
[11:34] <Ademan> riaal: the loading screen stuff? that should be usplash
[11:34] <slak> nice
[11:34] <ekul`> !xgl
[11:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:34] <blind> Ademan: remote comes first.
[11:34] <blind> errr, local comes first.
[11:35] <blind> im a little tired :|
[11:35] <luke_> is there a way to take a screenshot of KDM using import or scrot?
[11:35] <blind> luke_: yes.
[11:35] <Ademan> so you can only move them one way or what?
[11:35] <blind> Ademan: nah, you can move them anyway you'd like.
[11:35] <luke_> blind, can you give me the command?
[11:35] <riaal> Ademan, yeh, but how to change the resolutuin?
[11:35] <Libere> I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto to no avail.
[11:35] <Ademan> riaal: search for usplash on your system there should be a file like usplash.conf or something, it might be tucked away somewhere
[11:35] <blind> Ademan: it depends. if you're using "get" to take files, remote comes first. put, to put files, local comes first.
[11:36] <Ademan> riaal: and you'll have to update usplash afterwards, forgot the command though
[11:36] <blind> Ademan: like get index.html /home/me/Desktop/index.html
[11:36] <Ademan> blind: now i remember why i use nautilus for everything :-)
[11:36] <blind> Ademan: I use nautilus for very little :)
[11:37] <riaal> Ademan, found it, thanks
[11:37] <Ademan> everyones getting really excited over Thunar though... i might try it, i thought i had it on my xubuntu box though
[11:37] <blind> thunar is lame, imo.
[11:37] <Ademan> riaal: after you change it you'll have to update usplash with some command, lemme see if i can dig it up
[11:37] <joe4444> blind, anything helpful in my xorg.conf ?
[11:37] <blind> thunar would crash my whole comp anytime i tried to run it froma  command line.
[11:37] <riaal> Ademan, oh... thanks
[11:37] <Ademan> riaal: ah yes initramfs
[11:37] <blind> joe4444: not particularly. are both your displays running off of one output?
[11:38] <joe4444> ?
[11:38] <rpc> is it possible to build a bridge using eth0:1 or aliasing won't work for that?
[11:38] <blind> how many plugs do you have on your video card?
[11:38] <riaal> Ademan, cheers
[11:38] <joe4444> my video card has VGA and DVI, so one monitor on each
[11:38] <blind> hrm. weird.
[11:38] <Ademan> riaal: not quite, i think it needs some options :-) don't you just love how complicated some things are?
[11:38] <luke_> how hard can it be to take a screenshot of KDM, can someone tell me how, please??
[11:38] <blind> and X runs fine on both at the same time?
[11:38] <Errpast1> I want a dual head setup, and have a machine with a video card on the motherboard, AND a separate video card.
[11:39] <riaal> Ademan, I really do =) spent 8h trying to get my wireless to work yesterday ;)
[11:39] <blind> luke_: i told you when you were here before. scrot /home/yourname/filename
[11:39] <Errpast1> Can I get dual head to work like this, or do I need a second non mother board video card?
[11:39] <aarohi> blind, cp and mv commands don't work.
[11:39] <blind> and then you'll hear a system beep, and the file will be there.
[11:39] <joe4444> the DVI display is a little blurry, but probably b/c it defaults to 1280x768 when the LCDs are native 1440x900
[11:39] <aarohi> on ftp that is
[11:39] <luke_> blind: that says it can't connect to X server
[11:39] <blind> aarohi: sorry, it's ren for rename. and it works cross-directory. ren this /over/here/that
[11:39] <Libere> Issues with sound on a Vaio rb64g.  Running dapper drake, (onboard) Card: HDA Intel Chip: SigmaTel STAC7661.  The volume works, but it's very low and very low quality.  Have tried both alsa 1.0.13 and 1.0.14rc3, same result.  Everything I've found online refers to a setting in the gnome volume manager called external amplifier, but I don't have that option.  Any ideas?  I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHow
[11:39] <Libere> avail. I've tried every solution I could google, and the sound works... it just sounds terrible.
[11:39] <riaal> Ademan, foud it, sudo update-initramfs -u
[11:39] <Ademan> riaal: terrible, wireless is hit or miss on linux, i've dealt with 4 boxes i didn't have to do ANYTHING to, they just worked out of the box, but i always hear about people who can't get it to work no matte what, etc
[11:39] <blind> luke_: uh... weird.
[11:40] <aarohi> blind, so that is.. ren <old files> /dir/newnames?
[11:40] <Ademan> riaal: nice, you beat me haha
[11:40] <aarohi> if there are multiple files
[11:40] <Ademan> now i think i'm gonna FINALLY go to sleep
[11:40] <Ademan> night everyone
[11:40] <blind> aarohi: it may be mren -- check if that's a command.
[11:40] <luke_> blind: indeed, and really annoying
[11:40] <_raphael_> does ubuntu support fingerprint login?
[11:40] <aarohi> its not
[11:40] <blind> may have to do this that theother /new/this /new/that /new/theother
[11:40] <aarohi> one file a time?
[11:40] <blind> ummm..
[11:41] <riaal> Ademan, =) well the really stupid thing is my works, some times =) for exaple I can run kismet and scan whit it but I can't connect to my own whit the regular "network-admin" :S
[11:41] <aarohi> i have almost a 100 files i have to copy
[11:41] <blind> gimme a sec. lemme get my x server running and i'll help you out more :P
[11:41] <aarohi> k. thanks btw
[11:42] <WorkerII> I need help getting hsql running.  I installed the package .. but it doesn't run even if I do /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server start (at least not for very long).  I have the 610 ubuntu .. (even though a bug on the CD makes it claim to be 606)
[11:44] <Linuxboot> hi  all
[11:44] <blind> aarohi: are they all in the same directory? if so, try ren * /new/*
[11:44] <Linuxboot> whre acan  i finde franch Users
[11:44] <erUSUL> !fr
[11:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <aarohi> yeah they are
[11:44] <aarohi> i'll try that
[11:44] <Linuxboot> ubotu thanx
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <blind> no clue if it's gonna work or not :|
[11:45] <meal3837> !window manager
[11:45] <joe4444> almost everything seemed to install properly this time (unlike the first time i tried), except for this error: Coudln't find package fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-11-generic
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <joh> Any problems with the gnome packages atm? When setting up capplets-data, dkpg just hangs there...
[11:45] <joe4444> anyone know if that's a problem?
[11:45] <Errpast1> What password do I need to give to the CUPS admin interface on http://localhost:631 in order to cancel a job.
[11:45] <aarohi> blind,
[11:46] <aarohi> ftp> ren wp* /oldbackup/wp*
[11:46] <aarohi> 550 Sorry, but that file doesn't exist
[11:46] <blind> Darn >_>
[11:46] <aarohi> it exists in the ls listing
[11:46] <aarohi> i agree
[11:46] <meal3837> anyone know how to change the default window manager in ubuntu?
[11:46] <blind> aarohi: it's referring to the file wp* -- it doesn't see the * as a wildcard, gimme a sec, i will figure this out
[11:46] <_raphael_> can I login with a fingerprint in gdm?
[11:46] <joe4444> meal3837, it's an option when you first log in (if you have more than one)... choose Session
[11:47] <aarohi> k
[11:47] <blind> meal3837: yeah, when you're at the GDM screen, click sessions in the bottom left.
[11:47] <max__> ciao a tutti
[11:47] <blind> meal3837: then when you log in, it'll ask if you wanna set it as default
[11:47] <meal3837> you mean I can tell gnome to use enlightenment at the log in screen?
[11:47] <aarohi> blind, http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/Internet/node112.html
[11:47] <aarohi> which means wildcards are supported on an ftp server
[11:48] <blind> yeah, it works with some commands.
[11:48] <blind> dir, ls, etc
[11:48] <aarohi> yeah but it should work with others too
[11:48] <blind> should.
[11:48] <aarohi> its basically a unix based server
[11:48] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hello
[11:48] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> i need some help
[11:48] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> where can i found base-config?
[11:49] <blind> for what?
[11:49] <Errpast1> meal3837, I ran flux box and KDE successfully yesterday from my 6.06 Ubuntu from gdm
[11:49] <crimsun> it's not useful anymore in Ubuntu, meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
[11:49] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> its a lot easier to switch the repositories
[11:49] <meal3837> well, let me try it out
[11:50] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hey, is it possible to run kde and gnome?
[11:50] <blind> at the same time?
[11:50] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> lol
[11:50] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: yep.  Install both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop (well, install the other, from what you started with)
[11:51] <hang3r> Does anyone know why the update notifier icon does not show up in the tray even when there actually are updates?
[11:51] <Flannel> and yes, at the same time too.
[11:51] <blind> it is fully possible to run both. just uh. hard on the resources.
[11:51] <blind> (at the same time, anyway)
[11:51] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> well, it asked just now which one i want to use...
[11:51] <Frogzoo> hang3r: have you enabled auto updates?
[11:51] <Drake> hello
[11:51] <aarohi> i'm running amarok on a ubuntu installation, does that count?
[11:51] <aarohi> k and g together
[11:51] <Drake> anyone can tell me why grub suck so much?
[11:51] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> to uninstall kde is just apt-get remove --purge kde?
[11:51] <hang3r> Frogzoo, I haven't disabled them, so that's a yes.
[11:51] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: It asked which display manager (kdm or gdm), not desktop environment.  you can choose each time you login (that's the display manager), under "sessions"
[11:52] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> grub rules
[11:52] <Drake> is it normal tab completion don t work?
[11:52] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> wich one should i choose?
[11:52] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: no, it's much more complicated, since "kubuntu-desktop" is a meta package
[11:52] <h1st0> Drake: no
[11:52] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> how do i uninstall it then
[11:52] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: whichever you'd like.  Doesn't really matter one way or the other.
[11:53] <Drake> h1st0: it works on your box?
[11:53] <Frogzoo> hang3r: synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> automatic updates
[11:53] <h1st0> Drake: yes
[11:54] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> is there any way to uninstall the kde?
[11:54] <livingdaylight> Help: since my updates this morning my computer is not happy. First Xchat wouldn't open (i've now installed and using konversation) and now printing is not working either
[11:54] <cyt> !iso
[11:54] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:54] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: Yep
[11:54] <cyt> !isos
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <Drake> h1st0: I think on mine it do not recognize even the disk
[11:54] <hang3r> Frogzoo, Yes, it is enabled and checking daily, but when ever there is an update the notifier icon doesn't appear in the notification area
[11:54] <livingdaylight> Madpilot told me it could be Apt was confused because updater was telling me i required a distro upgrade to be able to implement all the updates
[11:54] <h1st0> Drake: which disK?
[11:54] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Flannel: how would i do that
[11:54] <WorkerII> No help :(
[11:55] <WorkerII> Good bye
[11:55] <Drake> h1st0: I think all disk
[11:55] <stylus> Hi there - How can I play .avi files on ubuntu?
[11:55] <h1st0> Drake: I don't really understand what you are trying to say.
[11:55] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: you use autoremove, I... don't really know the exact syntax.
[11:55] <h1st0> !codecs | stylus
[11:55] <ubotu> stylus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> ok, thanks
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> i will try to find out
[11:56] <Hellevator> how can I get a line count for an entire directory?
[11:56] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> does anybody knows a source to download a goddman base-config?
[11:56] <h1st0> Hellevator: line count?
[11:56] <Flannel> !language | meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:56] <ubotu> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:56] <Drake> h1st0: in the grub shell when you root (hdx,x) it return the fs type right?
[11:56] <Hellevator> h1st0, yeah, wc -l, except totaled for every file in a directory
[11:56] <blind> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: where have you checked besides here?
[11:56] <aarohi> i just tried to run smartftp with wine, blind
[11:56] <aarohi> didn't work
[11:57] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: base-config is in universe
[11:57] <h1st0> Drake: never really played with grub shell.
[11:57] <blind> aarohi: im not even sure what else to try
[11:57] <h1st0> !grub | Drake
[11:57] <ubotu> Drake: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:57] <aarohi> i'm gonna install smartftp on linux, use wine to run it, and observe the bottompane for the commands it uses.
[11:57] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: actually, base-config isn't used anymore.
[11:57] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> blind: ive tried a lot of source lists... and around the web... ive download a deb package but it doesnt works
[11:57] <aarohi> smartftp can copy files remotely too
[11:57] <aarohi> so, it'd know how to
[11:57] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> i use it. base-config rules
[11:58] <livingdaylight> anyone else experience difficulty with updating today?
[11:58] <Drake> h1st0: so how do you know if grub support tabcompletion on your box?
[11:58] <Hellevator> livingdaylight, did you do a dist-upgrade?
[11:58] <h1st0> Hellevator: maybe some sort of script using find
[11:58] <cwillu> livingdaylight: in what sense?
[11:58] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: The deb package isn't used anymore: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/base-config
[11:58] <priich> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it's in universe/base.
[11:58] <Drake> ubotu: in fact i m using a floppy to boot
[11:58] <h1st0> Drake: I thought you were just talking about tab completeion at a aterminal I have no idea what you are talking about.
[11:58] <blind> I *still* cannot my TwinView working. :[
[11:58] <livingdaylight> cwillu: it said it couldn't implement updates without distro upgrade
[11:58] <h1st0> Flannel: ubuntu-base or ubuntu-minimal
[11:59] <Flannel> h1st0: what?
[11:59] <livingdaylight> Hellevator: i don't want to distro upgrade till Feisty is released
[11:59] <cwillu> livingdaylight: what version are you running?  have you added any different repos?
[11:59] <h1st0> Flannel: giving you package suggestions for meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:59] <Drake> nm h1st0 thx anyway
[11:59] <livingdaylight> cwillu: edgy eft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9409/ my repos. I don't see anything there to cause Apt confusion
[11:59] <h1st0> Flannel: not sure exactly what he is trying to acocmplish vs. him downloading just kubuntu cd
[11:59] <[StingRay] > Hi, I have a sound problem with dapper. First I could not see my Audio card in lspci. I added the pci=usepirqmask option and now I see it. I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449, but I could not install my ICH4. Can somebody suggest anything else?
[11:59] <Hellevator> livingdaylight, that won't matter. You could do a distro upgrade all day long even after fiesty is released and you'll still be on edgy
[11:59] <cwillu> livingdaylight: looking...
[12:00] <Flannel> h1st0: He hasn't been to descriptive, but thanks for the sugegstion
[12:00] <livingdaylight> cwillu: now i cant use xchat and had to install konversation and printing doesn't work anymore either
[12:00] <livingdaylight> Hellevator: ok
[12:00] <Hellevator> livingdaylight, in order for dist-upgrade to upgrade you to fiesty you have to manually change your sources.list to the fiesty repos.
[12:00] <Flannel> Hellevator, livingdaylight, that's not the recommended method anymore. update-manager is
[12:01] <cwillu> livingdaylight: can you pastebin sudo apt-get upgrade for me?
[12:01] <blind> Does someone in here have hands-on experience with doing a TwinView on an nVidia card for a TV and a Monitor that wants to help me out? I'm having a hell of a time here.
[12:01] <livingdaylight> Hellevator: i get it, but i still don't see why xchat is unavailable to me and why printing is frozen
[12:01] <cwillu> livingdaylight: you weren't trying to upgrade to fiesty if I understand you right?
[12:01] <livingdaylight> cwillu: its all at 0
[12:01] <h1st0> livingdaylight: What version of ubuntu are you using and how did you upgrade today?
[12:02] <livingdaylight> h1st0: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:02] <priich> livingdaylight, did you try and upgrade to a new version ?
[12:02] <Hellevator> livingdaylight, careful doing a dist-upgrade though, if you've installed a binary video driver it might break.
[12:02] <Errpast1> CUPS keeps denying my root credentials
[12:02] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Flannel the package is broken :D
[12:02] <Errpast1> The error message is cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)
[12:02] <cwillu> Errpast1: trying to use the webbased config?
[12:02] <cwillu> livingdaylight: can you do that pastebin for me?
[12:02] <Errpast1> cwillu, yes, I am using localhost:631
[12:02] <h1st0> livingdaylight: what version of ubuntu are you runing?
[12:02] <stylus> h1st0: ty
[12:02] <h1st0> stylus: np
[12:03] <Errpast1> cwillu, Is that what you mean?
[12:03] <cwillu> Errpast1: I can't help much, other than to say I don't think it works out of the box;  there's some account config that isn't set up (remember, root doesn't have a password at all)
[12:03] <livingdaylight> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9412/
[12:03] <cwillu> Errpast1: yep
[12:03] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: the package is empty, I believe.
[12:03] <Errpast1> cwillu, yes, I created a password for root.  Thanks anyway
[12:03] <cwillu> Errpast1: sorry :/
[12:03] <Errpast1> cwillu, no problem
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> hey, sorry but ive got this problem
[12:04] <cwillu> Errpast1: there was a guide somewhere on setting that up, might have been ubuntuforums;  try giving it a google
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee>  belocs-locales-bin conflicts with base-config
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee>   base-config (version 2.76) is to be installed.
[12:04] <fs-a> hello, which is the mechanism that lets the pop up "a new medium has been detected" for disks?
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> how can i solve it?
[12:04] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> its to be installed but itsnt installed... wtf
[12:04] <cwillu> livingdaylight: you tried updating via synaptic before?
[12:04] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:04] <livingdaylight> cwillu: no
[12:05] <cwillu> how did you try it?
[12:05] <priich> Hellevator, it might break anyway. Last time i did a dist upgrade it broke my fonts, xorg and a packages and deps (well maybe not gazillion but 150+). Had to spend a day or two doing kung-fu in apt-get to forcefully remove packagesand then install them again + manual editing of conf files in /etc/ before it worked.
[12:05] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> isntall base-config
[12:05] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: What extra repositories have you added?  Since, that's not a normal dependency
[12:05] <livingdaylight> cwillu: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:05] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: what is your ultimate goal?  Since base-config literally is empty.
[12:05] <livingdaylight> cwillu: actually, someone gave ma different command too
[12:05] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> none, thats why i need base-config, im having problem with repositories
[12:06] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> with base-config i can choose a lot of rep.
[12:06] <Hellevator> priich, ouch, thats painful. I'm sorry you had to experience that.  I only have trouble with my video driver (though not anymore thanks to envy)
[12:06] <cwillu> livingdaylight: what command said that it couldn't implement updates?
[12:06] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: You don't need base-config is what we are trying to get at.
[12:06] <h1st0> !base-config
[12:06] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: You're not making any sense.  You apparently need base-config simply because you need it.  Except, it's empty, so getting it wouldn't do anything.
[12:06] <ubotu> base-config: Debian base system configurator (transitional version). In component universe, is extra. Version 2.76 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 96 kB
[12:07] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: What problems are you having with the repos?
[12:07] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> cant find some files
[12:07] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i was given sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[12:07] <Flannel> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: which ones?  You're really not giving us anything of substance to work with
[12:07] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> so base-config would help, at least it used to
[12:07] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: That has nothing to do with it.
[12:08] <cwillu> livingdaylight: hmm.  what happened before to break it?
[12:08] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: You can find files with aptitude ?  or find ?  or locate?
[12:08] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> nope!
[12:08] <h1st0> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: Which of the three
[12:08] <priich> livingdaylight, have you done apt-get update ?
[12:08] <cwillu> meeeeeeeeeeeeeee: what files are you missing?
[12:08] <cwillu> priich: livingdaylight:  yep
[12:08] <livingdaylight> priich: that is what started it all. i clicked up my updater
[12:09] <cwillu> livingdaylight: you're running just straight ubuntu right?  (not xubuntu or kubuntu?)
[12:09] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i don't know. i woke up with the computer telling me i had updates
[12:09] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ubuntu edgy eft
[12:09] <Helmi> is there a way to reload the .bashrc without logging out and in again?
[12:09] <livingdaylight> cwillu: gnome, yes
[12:09] <meeeeeeeeeeeeeee> forget it... thanks anyway
[12:09] <cwillu> livingdaylight: can you pastebin sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:10] <livingdaylight> cwillu: so i clicked on updates and it said it coulndn't install all because i had to do an upgrade
[12:10] <DF3> Hi
[12:10] <wertigo8888> hi to all
[12:10] <DF3> Is there a way to install Gnome on an Ubuntu Server installation?
[12:10] <wertigo8888> I'm a newbe of ubuntu
[12:11] <Flannel> DF3: sure.  It's all the same repositories.  You just have to decide how much desktop you want
[12:11] <livingdaylight> cwillu: that's just installing ekiga and toem both of which i don't like or use
[12:11] <cwillu> DF3: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will give you the full desktop, etc
[12:11] <wertigo8888> I'm typing from a 6.06 live version
[12:11] <DF3> Thanks.
[12:11] <cwillu> livingdaylight: just cancel it, but paste me the output
[12:11] <priich> livingdaylight, have you tried apt-get -f     (as in fix)
[12:11] <Flannel> DF3: If you're planning on using it as a desktop, you'll want to isntall the desktop kernel (and ditch the server kernel)
[12:11] <livingdaylight> priich: no, i wasn't aware of that command
[12:12] <Flannel> DF3: but, that's not too pertinent.  You just might notice it's a bit less responsive
[12:12] <wertigo8888> I've a question: can I print with 6.06 live?
[12:12] <DF3> Flannel: I'm having problems with the desktop one, and i want a lighter system too. so, i just want to try it this time
[12:12] <livingdaylight> cwillu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9415/
[12:13] <cwillu> thanks
[12:13] <Flannel> DF3: you might try xubuntu, or even, if you want, just install some other lightweight WM (fluxbox, et al)
[12:13] <ThraX-Oz> hi all :) would anyone be able to lend me some advice on an error im getting when i try and run beryl? its relating to a libGL warning
[12:14] <Flannel> ThraX-Oz: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[12:14] <ThraX-Oz> cheers
[12:14] <cwillu> livingdaylight: what else is broken, other than xchat?
[12:14] <cwillu> livingdaylight: (xchat isn't actually installed by default in edgy_
[12:14] <livingdaylight> cwillu: printing
[12:15] <livingdaylight> cwillu: wont even print a test page.
[12:15] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i've removed and reinstalled my printer conextion with no change
[12:15] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I'm not dead sure, but I think it might just be a printing issue, not a packaging issue
[12:16] <cwillu> livingdaylight: what printer?
[12:16] <livingdaylight> cwillu: that is my major concern; as i was in the middle of printing something off, and use it alot. Xchat i don't care about - very happyliy using konversation instead
[12:16] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i've been using this printer with ubuntu for years now, so its not the printer
[12:17] <cwillu> livingdaylight: apt-get install xchat will reinstall it, it's just not standard in the default install any more
[12:17] <ojk007> can anyone point me in the direction to making ubuntu recognize a windows(NTFS) partition?
[12:17] <cwillu> livingdaylight: what printer is it?
[12:17] <cwillu> !ntfs | ojk007
[12:17] <ubotu> ojk007: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:17] <ojk007> Thank you so much! :D
[12:18] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I don't mean there's anything wrong with the printer, I'm just thinking that there's something wrong with cups for some reason
[12:18] <livingdaylight> cwillu: epson Stylus-Photo-RX425
[12:18] <cwillu> usb?
[12:18] <livingdaylight> cwillu: yes
[12:18] <ekul`> !glitz
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glitz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <cwillu> if you unplug it, then delete it from the printer dialog, and then plug it back in, does it automatically detect it?  (i.e., pop up the install printer dialog?)
[12:19] <livingdaylight> cwillu: as i say, its worked with every ubuntu release since badger and up to last nite
[12:19] <digitalspaghetti> has anyone here used reconstructor to create their own distro?
[12:19] <cwillu> livingdaylight: apt-get upgrade is saying you don't have any problems, I'm just trying to figure it out
[12:19] <wertigo8888> Problem printing with HP 5150 usb OS Ubuntu 6.06 live -> I can't install any printer
[12:20] <cwillu> livingdaylight: does it detect it now if you replug it?  (it should pop up automatically when you do that)
[12:20] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i dont think hotplug ever detected it
 cypher@HaeckFlaisch:~$ esd
 ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
 im hal-device-manager ist die Soundkarte korrekt erkannt
[12:21] <livingdaylight> cwillu: not automatically
[12:21] <cypher_> can someone help me?
[12:21] <cwillu> :/
[12:21] <cwillu> I have to say it sounds suspicious livingdaylight
[12:21] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ubuntu you mean? ^^
[12:22] <livingdaylight> cwillu: everything working nicely till this morning this weird updater
[12:22] <yeahitsme> is it possible to run x-fi fatality soundcard on linux?
[12:22] <yeahitsme> my sound doesnt works
[12:23] <erUSUL> yeahitsme: there is no driver for it yet
[12:23] <yeahitsme> cool!
[12:23] <cwillu> livingdaylight: well, sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all might fix it then (it'll reconfigure every package installed, vaguely similar to a windows repair)
[12:23] <cwillu> livingdaylight: my guess it that when the install crapped out, if screwed something up in the cups system
[12:24] <livingdaylight> cwillu: that is why i hoped removing the printer details and reinstalling /configuring might do it,
[12:24] <cwillu> livingdaylight: granted, it really should auto-detect the printer since edgy, if not dapper, although if you've just been upgrading since you first installed the printer, you'd never see it do that (it'd already be set up)
[12:24] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i don't know what you mean by autodetect
[12:24] <yomm> How can I set the resize mode in Gnome/Metacity to Outline ?
[12:24] <livingdaylight> cwillu: how about sudo apt-get -f
[12:25] <cwillu> when you plug any printer'ish thing in via usb in edgy, it should detect that you plugged a printer in, and offer to configure it.  if its not doing that, then something is broken
[12:25] <cwillu> livingdaylight: one sec
[12:25] <__max_> anyone know of a FAI Unbuntu guide they would actually recommend? can't find any that are actually complete.. its mostly bits 'n pieces.
[12:25] <priich> Helmi, did you get an answer on how to reload .bashrc ?
[12:26] <cwillu> livingdaylight: apt-get -f won't do anything in this case I don't think (although it won't hurt to try):  the -f means 'fix packages with broken dependencies', which isn't what you're seeing (the first apt-get update you posted me shows that)
[12:26] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ok, so....:s
[12:27] <cwillu> try the dpkg-reconfigure -all (it'll take a while though)
[12:27] <livingdaylight> cwillu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -all  ??
[12:27] <ekul`> !glitz
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glitz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <dutch> morning
[12:27] <priich> Helmi, if not, there are two ways. Either:             source .bashrc       or         . .bashrc
[12:27] <livingdaylight> cwillu: should i configure the printer first?
[12:28] <cwillu> livingdaylight: no, delete the printer, unplug it
[12:28] <Helmi> priich: thanks, i did get an answer in another channel. Thanks anyway. i got it done with "exec bash"
[12:28] <cwillu> (the usb)
[12:29] <wertigo8888> Problem printing with HP 5150 usb OS Ubuntu 6.06 live -> I can't install any printer
[12:29] <cwillu> livingdaylight: actually, kill the power to the printer too, just in case the printer itself is hung
[12:29] <simmerz> I've got a my laptop trying to access a samba mount. in the past it has worked fine, but now I am getting "not a valid block device" errors when I try to mount it.
[12:29] <simmerz> no change at all to the configuration
[12:29] <cwillu> simmerz: what's the line you're using?
[12:30] <simmerz> cwillu: fstab line: //192.168.254.211/music /media/homer    cifs iocharset=utf8,uid=webteam,gid=users,guest,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0755,username=user,password=pass                0 0
[12:30] <simmerz> and then mount /media/homer
[12:33] <simmerz> btw, smclient -L 192.168.254.211 does show music as a valid share
[12:33] <kaushal> Hi
[12:33] <simmerz> smbclient*
[12:33] <kaushal> is there any Training materials for LPI-199
[12:33] <kaushal> for Ubuntu Certified Professional
[12:34] <livingdaylight> cwillu: do i want system wide readable home directories??
[12:35] <cwillu> livingdaylight: one sec
[12:35] <DF3> Hi, I'm currently installing Ubuntu Server, and the installation process is stuck at "Gathering information for installation report...". What should I do?
[12:35] <overrider> hi folks. basically, viewing this url -> https://www.domain.com/grapher/chart.php?graphid=1&stime=yyyymmddhhmm&period=7200&from=0&width=-108 <- results in a .png graph being displayed in the browser. i would like to use curl or fetch or whatever to get that image via commandline. any ideas? somehow normal use (eg. curl -O etc) , will not work.
[12:35] <cwillu> livingdaylight: yes is the default there, should be fine
[12:35] <Arafangion> How do I get /usr/bin/mail WITHOUT installing xmail, which removes courier-pop?
[12:36] <livingdaylight> cwillu: thx :)
[12:37] <joe4444> w00t!!!!  dual monitors =D
[12:37] <livingdaylight> cwillu: /me has everything crossed :p
[12:37] <h1st0> overrider: wget
[12:37] <slak> w00t!!
[12:37] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I'm running the same command on my machine, so if it breaks yours, be content in the fact that I broke mine as well :p
[12:37] <livingdaylight> cwillu: haha
[12:37] <h1st0> overrider: wget http://directurltoimage.png
[12:37] <joe4444> i can't believe i got this working... was 15 seconds away from giving up
[12:37] <cwillu> joe4444: the next frontier is either beryl, or multiseats :p
[12:38] <joe4444> wtf are they?
[12:38] <cwillu> joe4444: and if that doesn't make you give up, nothing will :p
 Hi, I'm currently installing Ubuntu Server, and the installation process is stuck at "Gathering information for installation report...". What should I do?
[12:38] <livingdaylight> cwillu: certificates to activate ? all /non/some?
[12:38] <cwillu> joe4444: beryl is the fancy 3d desktop stuff, and multiseat is letting two people use two monitors/keyboard/mice on the same computer at the same time
[12:38] <cwillu> livingdaylight: the defaults should generally be right
[12:38] <ekul`> !cvs
[12:38] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[12:38] <joe4444> cwillu, definitely don't need either of those    *whew*
[12:38] <cwillu> livingdaylight: although it hasn't asked me that one yet
[12:39] <cwillu> :p
[12:39] <cwillu> joe4444: have you _seen_ the videos?
[12:39] <Arafangion> ubotu: I beg to differ.
[12:39] <Arafangion> ubotu: SUBVERSION!
[12:39] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[12:39] <Zero9983> any proxy server for ubuntu (GUI) ?
[12:39] <cwillu> the putting-vista-to-shame videos?
[12:39] <joe4444> cwillu, obviously not :p   link?
[12:39] <cypher_> dir_default.preset
[12:39] <cwillu> joe4444: youtube for compiz or beryl
[12:39] <joe4444> well, that's pretty easy to do, but i'm still curious =)
[12:39] <DF3> Can anyone answer me?
[12:40] <Arafangion> So... how do I get the canonical /usr/bin/mail?
[12:40] <cwillu> livingdaylight: ya, installing the certs is fine
[12:40] <livingdaylight> cwillu: hehe...i'm a bit ahead of you
[12:40] <h1st0> !patience | DF3
[12:40] <ubotu> DF3: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:41] <cwillu> joe4444: watch?v=DUSn-jBA3CE
[12:41] <lonelystar> Who can tell me how can i close the control tty1~4 ,i using ubuntu 6.10
[12:41] <cwillu> bah, http://youtube.com/watch?v=DUSn-jBA3CE
[12:41] <livingdaylight> cwillu: keyboard: do you know the uk layout? uk, or uk-Dvorak or uk-international ?
[12:41] <DF3> h1st0: I know, I know....
[12:41] <cwillu> livingdaylight: where are you from?
[12:41] <h1st0> DF3: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[12:41] <cwillu> (country)
[12:41] <joe4444> ok, that's pretty cool
[12:41] <livingdaylight> cwillu: united kingdom
[12:42] <DF3> h1st0: Ubuntu 6.10 Server
[12:42] <livingdaylight> cwillu: don't know whether to just use uk or uk-dvorak
[12:42] <cwillu> livingdaylight: normal uk should be fine, unless you're using dvorak (as opposed to qwerty_
[12:42] <h1st0> DF3: what type of hardware are you trying to install on?
[12:42] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: do you want a pound sign or a dollar sign?
[12:42] <DF3> h1st0: i386.. normal PC
[12:42] <livingdaylight> cwillu: yea..qwerty - i don't know what dvorak is
[12:42] <cwillu> !dvorak
[12:42] <ubotu> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[12:43] <cwillu> **cue holy war**
[12:43] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: i want both. I normally have both on my keyboard layout
[12:43] <h1st0> DF3: you could hit ctrl+alt+f4  or F1 may show you what its doing when its hanging.
[12:43] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: oh, misread. If you do not know what dvorak is, by default you want qwerty as that is what your keys say
[12:43] <joe4444> cwillu, still... it's completely unnecessary =P
[12:43] -Vov4ik:#ubuntu- :D
[12:43] <cwillu> livingdaylight: if it worked before, the default is fine
[12:43] <cwillu> joe4444: :p
[12:43] <joe4444> good ole workspace switcher is good enough for me
[12:43] <joe4444> but maybe if my PC was also my media center
[12:44] <cwillu> joe4444: how can you resist the wobbly windows?
[12:44] <joe4444> got an xbox for that tho =)
[12:44] <joe4444> haha
[12:44] <DF3> h1st0: cp: /var/log/bootchart: omitting directory
[12:44] -Vov4ik:#ubuntu- FUCK OFF !!! ha-ha-ha-h-ah-a-h-a-hskfghwiruhgir :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[12:44] -Vov4ik:#ubuntu- FUCK OFF !!! ha-ha-ha-h-ah-a-h-a-hskfghwiruhgir :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[12:44] -Vov4ik:#ubuntu- FUCK OFF !!! ha-ha-ha-h-ah-a-h-a-hskfghwiruhgir :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[12:44] -Vov4ik:#ubuntu- FUCK OFF !!! ha-ha-ha-h-ah-a-h-a-hskfghwiruhgir :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[12:44] <h1st0> DF3: ?
[12:44] <DF3> h1st0: that's the part it gets stuck at
[12:45] <h1st0> DF3: And this is during an install?
[12:45] <Curtman> My dad upgraded his PC to feisty, and now he says he can't click on anything.  The mouse pointer moves, but clicking any widget of any app doesn't work.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[12:45] <h1st0> DF3: did you try doing a media check?
[12:45] <DF3> h1st0: yes. during "finishing the install" part
[12:45] <joe4444> cwillu, the only feature i would really like is the window organizer or w/e it's called... how it "cascades" in different ways
[12:45] <DF3> h1st0: well
[12:45] <Curtman> When I ssh/vnc in everything seems normal :(
[12:45] <DF3> h1st0: the media was fine the last time i tried it
[12:45] <h1st0> Curtman: #ubuntu+1 is the fiesty channel.  But more information would be needed.
[12:45] <joe4444> of course, i'd certainly need a new video card to take advantage of that stuff
[12:45] <Curtman> h1st0: Good stuff, thanks.
[12:46] <Seveas> interesting
[12:46] <cwillu> joe4444: the expose clone;  if you get compiz/beryl working, you can turn off all the effects except that (which is what I typically did)
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yes.
[12:46] <h1st0> DF3: Boot to the cd and check the media.
[12:46] <cwillu> joe4444: although I couldn'
[12:46] <Seveas> it is on...
[12:46] <cwillu> baht
[12:46] <h1st0> Seveas: Hobbsee what is?
[12:46] <joe4444> cwillu, know of a good guide?
[12:46] <cwillu> joe4444: although I couldn't resist putting the option on that makes closed windows burn up
[12:46] <sneeze> [11:41]  <sneeze> anyone know how can i set my mozzila firefox the default browser??
[12:46] <sneeze> [11:41]  <sneeze> i'm bored whit konqueror :(
[12:46] <rEsPeCT> wazza
[12:46] <DF3> h1st0: the installation is STUCK. should i restart the computer?
[12:46] <joe4444> btw, my vid card is ATI if that matters
[12:46] <cwillu> joe4444: fiesty is supposed to make it super easy, assuming that acceleration is working
[12:46] <Hobbsee> try harder next time, idiot.
[12:46] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i don't think i need a BSD lpd compatibility server?
[12:46] <cwillu> joe4444: is your 3d accel working?
[12:46] <Lynoure> sneeze: you want a browser to be exciting? Heh :)
[12:47] <h1st0> DF3: Sure what do you have to lose.
[12:47] <cwillu> livingdaylight: um
[12:47] <sneeze> i prefer firefox, i m more used
[12:47] <cwillu> livingdaylight: let me double check, but it might be related
[12:47] <h1st0> DF3: unless you are worried about data loss why not.
[12:47] <Arafangion> sneeze: Bah, use iceweasle!
[12:47] <joe4444> cwillu, not sure... i don't need it so i didn't try to turn it on, but i can test it if you tell me how :)
[12:47] <cwillu> joe4444: one sec
[12:47] <sneeze> anyone know how can i set firefox as default browser???
[12:48] <sneeze> anyone know how can i set firefox as default browser??? i dont any other browser
[12:48] <joe4444> sneeze, look in the firefox preferences
[12:48] <Lynoure> sneeze: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-and-email-client-in-ubuntu/
[12:48] <cwillu> joe4444: glxinfo|grep direct, and if it says direct rendering: yes, you're good
[12:48] <sneeze> thx!
[12:49] <cwillu> livingdaylight: okay, the bsd lpd is fine to say no to
[12:49] <joe4444> cwillu, i probably need   Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "yes"    in Section "Device" first, eh?
[12:49] <cwillu> joe4444: not sure
[12:49] <joe4444> gonna try that...
[12:49] <cwillu> joe4444: said you didn't have direct rendering?
[12:50] <livingdaylight> cwillu: install dash?
[12:50] <joe4444> no, but the guide i read said that option is for 3d accel
[12:50] <cwillu> livingdaylight: yep
[12:50] <joe4444> Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "yes"	#Enable 3d support <= May Not Work
[12:50] <livingdaylight> cwillu: it seems to recommend it, coz its smaller and compliant
[12:50] <overrider> what means wazza?
[12:50] <cwillu> livingdaylight: doesn't really matter a whole lot
[12:51] <tarelerulz> I had this problem I use mplayer and not gmplayer  can't open sound . Do any of you know what is what with that
[12:51] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i figured that bit wasn't life or death ^^
[12:51] <cwillu> livingdaylight: just confusing if you're used to a system with bash as the default sh
[12:51] <h1st0> tarelerulz: does sound work anywhere else?
[12:51] <cwillu> which hasn't been ubuntu for a while I don't think
[12:52] <tarelerulz> It works in mplayer fine and it is not working with gmplayer now
[12:52] <ekul`> anyone know how i can compile glitz with cvs?
[12:52] <jrib> tarelerulz: does "Movie Player" work right now?
[12:52] <h1st0> !source | ekul`
[12:52] <ubotu> ekul`: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[12:52] <joe4444> newb question: can i quickly shut down Gnome (to get a console only), modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then restart Gnome?  all w/o rebooting
[12:52] <h1st0> !compile | ekul`
[12:52] <ubotu> ekul`: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:53] <cwillu> ekul`: if you have build-essential et al installed, you're probably better of looking for help in a glitz specific channel
[12:53] <tarelerulz> I would not know I uninstalled totem
[12:53] <livingdaylight> cwillu: you did say this would take a while ^^
[12:53] <jrib> joe4444: yes, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, log out, then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:53] <tarelerulz> xmms works fine
[12:53] <cwillu> joe4444: ctrl+alt+f1 (f7 to get back)
[12:53] <ekul`> Thanks :)
[12:53] <cwillu> joe4444: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:53] <wertigo8888> hi to all
[12:53] <tarelerulz> I have my windows computer up and I am trying to play songs of its shares
[12:53] <joe4444> hmm, the guide i read said /not/ to edit xorg.conf while in the GUI
[12:53] <tarelerulz> If I donwload it to my computer it works ,but nothing can play it over  my network
[12:54] <PriceChild> joe4444, You can edit it fine while in X, changes don't take effect till you restart
[12:54] <h1st0> tarelerulz: so its not just gmplaer related?
[12:54] <Ayabara> I have installed kubuntu-desktop to try out kde for a while. all looks good, except that the fonts are much larger and bolder than they should be in apps like firefox, xchat and gaim. anyone got an idea what could cause this?
[12:54] <cwillu> joe4444: it works, but a bit of a pain
[12:54] <tarelerulz> I try use kmplayer with konqueror and mplayer with firefox to see the files and both don't work
[12:54] <h1st0> Ayabara: #kubuntu?
[12:55] <joe4444> cwillu, i added that setting for 3d accel and it didn't appear to work... although i'm getting full resolution and an extended desktop on both displays it still reports my ATI Radeon 9550 as a Mesa something... would that affect 3d stuff?
[12:55] <Ayabara> h1st0, maybe that's a better place, what if I revert my question and ask why the fonts are smaller in ubuntu ;-)
[12:55] <Flightbase> hi
[12:55] <cwillu> joe4444: so that line I gave you didn't say "direct rendering: yes"?
[12:56] <joe4444> nope, still No
[12:56] <tocksick> cya all
[12:56] <cwillu> joe4444: radeon or fglrx?
[12:56] <joe4444> fglrx i think
[12:56] <Flightbase> when i boot ubuntu server cd i see the language setting menue - but then he says he cant finde the cdrom anymore. mainboard is an asus p5b-vm
[12:56] <cwillu> joe4444: 16 or 24?
[12:56] <tarelerulz> gmplayer don't work local at all ,but mplayer does . They are one in the same I don't see why one will not work
[12:57] <aos> hey
[12:57] <h1st0> Ayabara: I wouldn't know the answer but someone else might.  Are you sure the resolution just isn't set higher?  Also in the control settings you should be able to adjust the system font.
[12:57] <joe4444> oh yeah, and at the login screen i can only see the right display (VGA)... the DVI display that has the login prompt can't show anything due to improper refresh rate (not what i set in xorg.conf) so i have to log in blind...but after that it's fine  o_O
[12:57] <aos> how can i set root pass for apache phpmyadmin
[12:57] <joe4444> 24-bit
[12:57] <aos> ?
[12:57] <cwillu> joe4444: change it to 16
[12:57] <h1st0> tarelerulz: how did you install gmplayer?
[12:57] <joe4444> well, that's what i set it to in xorg.conf... how do i check?
[12:58] <cwillu> 24 isn't accelerated with the ati's afaik
[12:58] <cwillu> joe4444: one sec
[12:58] <h1st0> tarelerulz: and mplayer?
[12:58] <tarelerulz> I use packet isntaller for ubuntu 6.10
[12:58] <livingdaylight> cwillu: Printer spooler backend for Foomatic: cups or lpd?
[12:58] <cwillu> joe4444: screen section, defaultdepth set it to 16
[12:58] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: ubuntu uses cups by default...
[12:58] <cwillu> livingdaylight: should be cups
[12:59] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: cwillu thx
[12:59] <tarelerulz> I installed it once from souce and it worked fine . Then I  try to install the plug in for firefox and had problem and install plugin with ubuntu
[12:59] <tarelerulz> which installed mplayer over again
[01:00] <livingdaylight> cwillu: enable PostScript accounting for Cups?
[01:00] <cwillu> livingdaylight: default is fine
[01:00] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i don't know what the default is :) yes or no?
[01:00] <livingdaylight> cwillu: hahaha
[01:00] <cwillu> livingdaylight: whatever was already selected, 'no', I believe
[01:00] <joe4444> cwillu, ok i edited xorg.conf with 16 as defaultdepth, logged out, then hit ctl+alt+backspace.... screens went blank =(
[01:01] <livingdaylight> yes
[01:01] <h1st0> tarelerulz: Well maybe its an issue with the version you installed from source still being there?
[01:01] <cwillu> joe4444: ctrl+alt+f1; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:01] <Ayabara> h1st0, got help in #kubuntu. I need to change the GTK Styles and Fonts in kde system settings.
[01:02] <ekul`> when tring to install glitz via: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr i just get: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
[01:02] <joe4444> the screens are still blank... like asleep
[01:02] <ekul`> erm sorry i just get ./autogen.sh: 29: aclocal: not found
[01:02] <h1st0> Ayabara: cool.
[01:02] <tarelerulz> I thought when you compiled for souce and installed it with ubuntu  the ubuntu wrote over it
[01:02] <joe4444> just type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" blind?
[01:02] <cwillu> joe4444: even after ctrl+alt+f1, but before the restart?
[01:02] <Ayabara> h1st0, yep. thanks for caring :-)
[01:02] <joe4444> ctl+alt+f1 (linux) == ctl+alt+del (windows) ?
[01:03] <h1st0> tarelerulz: not necessarily depends where the source was installed vs. were the deb is being installed.
[01:03] <Eons> hi; i need help with timidity.. it's sloooow - i added the --no-realtime-load option, but nothing changed
[01:03] <cwillu> joe4444: not really;  windows doesn't have an equivilent to ctrl+alt+f1
[01:03] <h1st0> tarelerulz: type which mplayer in a terminal.
[01:03] <h1st0> Ayabara: np
[01:03] <doff> Xine Multimedia Player. what is the hotkey to make it stay always on top? I've looked through hotkey lust alt+k and didn't find it. is there such option?
[01:03] <cwillu> joe4444: caf1 should bring up a text session
[01:03] <livingdaylight> cwillu: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc2 in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
[01:03] <joe4444> cwillu, well the screens went blank after logging out and ctl+alt+backspace... caf1 did nothing afaict
[01:04] <livingdaylight> cwillu: and i got my prompt back? is it done or did it abort?
[01:04] <joe4444> "no signal" on my display
[01:04] <cwillu> joe4444: k, just reboot then;  don't do the ctrl+alt+backspace anymore though, the ca-f1 + /etc/init.d/gdm restart is cleaner
[01:04] <cwillu> livingdaylight: one sec
[01:04] <joe4444> k
[01:04] <bu2> If I use mkdir to make a directory that is part of a website what permissions do I give it when I make it?
[01:04] <cwillu> what was the last line before that livingdaylight?
[01:04] <tarelerulz> This is what I get
[01:04] <tarelerulz> MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C)
[01:05] <cwillu> bu2: o+r should do it
[01:05] <bu2> thanks
[01:05] <h1st0> tarelerulz: doesn't "which mplayer" just give you apath like /opt/whatever
[01:06] <IdleOne> somebode know why the network connection icon in top panel would show no connection when I have a network connection? not a big issue as long as I have internet but would be nice for things to work properly
[01:06] <livingdaylight> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9419/
[01:06] <aliasxerog> yoyoyoyo
[01:06] <cwillu> thx
[01:06] <ekul`> ./autogen.sh: 29: aclocal: not found
[01:06] <h1st0> IdleOne: If you are using wireless and fiesty network-manager is goofy.
[01:06] <ekul`> !alcocal
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alcocal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <ekul`> !autogen
[01:06] <ubotu> autogen: an automated text file generator. In component main, is optional. Version 1:5.8.3-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 723 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[01:06] <IdleOne> h1st0, this is wired
[01:06] <livingdaylight> aliasxerog: yoyoyoyo!!!
[01:07] <cwillu> livingdaylight: any more lines before that?
[01:07] <livingdaylight> cwillu: sure
[01:07] <cwillu> livingdaylight: maybe give me the last few dozen
[01:07] <h1st0> tarelerulz: Basically you are still using the source version you installed. You need to remove that first then you could use the version from the package manager.
[01:07] <livingdaylight> cwillu: how far back to you want me to go?
[01:07] <cwillu> livingdaylight: just want to see where you were in the whole thing
[01:07] <livingdaylight> ok
[01:07] <h1st0> IdleOne: are you using fiesty?
[01:07] <simmerz> cwillu: any ideas?
[01:08] <IdleOne> h1st0, yes
[01:08] <cwillu> simmerz: nothing showed up when I googled it except a bunch about cdroms;  it does sound familiar though
[01:08] <livingdaylight> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9420/
[01:08] <h1st0> IdleOne: yeah #ubuntu+1
[01:09] <tarelerulz> So it sounds like souce one is comflickeding with the one I install use ubuntu
[01:10] <cwillu> livingdaylight: no, that's not great;  granted, nothing else should be broken, but that certainly didn't happen on mine
[01:10] <h1st0> tarelerulz: No source one is messed up and the one from ubuntu isn't even getting called.
[01:10] <cwillu> livingdaylight: somebody screwed up though
[01:10] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ugh..
[01:10] <simmerz> cwillu: it seems to have happened on some kind of update. i dont get why smbclient -L hostname shows the mount though
[01:10] <h1st0> tarelerulz: you could try invoking it directly with /usr/bin/mplayer   from terminal should be the path to the ubuntu one but I don't know because you aren't posting the output of which mplayer
[01:11] <cwillu> simmerz: does it work if you do the mount line by hand?
[01:11] <livingdaylight> cwillu: should i be afraid or very very afraid? ^^
[01:11] <cwillu> livingdaylight: nothing further should be broken
[01:11] <cwillu> I'm just wondering if it's just a uk bug, or something serious
[01:11] <bu2> mv can move a directory but what command do I do to move all the contents of one directory, without having to do it once for each file?
[01:11] <livingdaylight> cwillu: what is broken?
[01:11] <h1st0> simmerz: smbclien -L  just shows whats availible on the host not the mounts.
[01:11] <cwillu> bu2 /directory/* /target/directory/
[01:12] <bu2> thanks
[01:12] <jrib> you forgot the mv though :P
[01:12] <tarelerulz> YOu are right
[01:12] <simmerz> cwillu: no
[01:12] <cwillu> livingdaylight: that program was assuming that something wouldn't be a unicode string, which isn't good
[01:12] <bishopek> Hello. Is it possible to make nozomi run under 2.6.17 somehow?
[01:12] <tarelerulz> I am bringing up two different ones
[01:12] <cwillu> but I don't know if its related
[01:12] <livingdaylight> cwillu: related to printing?
[01:12] <bishopek> Or in ubuntu?
[01:12] <jrib> bu2: that won't copy files taht start with a '.'
[01:12] <simmerz> h1st0: yeah, but why would it now complain that the mount isn't a valid block device when it was perfectly happy to mount it yesterday?
[01:13] <cwillu> livingdaylight: doubt it;  anyways, we got past the cups reconfig, so its worth giving it a shot again
[01:13] <cwillu> (the printer)
[01:13] <ekul`> How do i install glitz? anyone? cant get ./autogen.sh to work
[01:13] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ok... :s
[01:13] <jrib> !info libgltz1
[01:13] <ubotu> Package libgltz1 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:13] <cwillu> simmerz: the mount point exists, right?  and you're running the mount under sudo?
[01:13] <joe4444> cwillu, i reverted to my xorg.conf before trying 16 defaultdepth b/c i still couldn't even see a login screen... when i logged in again i got an internal error: could not start HAL (but not again after a reboot)
[01:13] <IdleOne> ekul`, did you check in synaptic to see if there is a package for it repos?
[01:13] <jrib> !info libglitz1 | ekul`
[01:13] <ubotu> ekul`: libglitz1: Glitz OpenGL image compositing library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.6-1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 236 kB
[01:14] <cwillu> joe4444: **boggle**
[01:14] <tarelerulz> I wish the mplayer people where nice and made uninstall script
[01:14] <ekul`> yeh libglitz1 is installed im pretty sure, ill just doublecheck
[01:14] <simmerz> cwillu: yep. and yep
[01:14] <cwillu> joe4444: so its running under 24 again?
[01:14] <ekul`> cant get XGL to work though
[01:14] <joe4444> yep
[01:14] <jrib> ekul`: then what did you mean by "installing glitz"?
[01:15] <cwillu> joe4444: and you just changed the one line to "DefaultDepth 16"?
[01:15] <joe4444> cwillu, i don't think i'll bother messing with 3d stuff... but i'd like to get the login screen to show up (at least on the proper display) so i don't have to log in blind =/
[01:15] <joe4444> any ideas?
[01:15] <ekul`> one of the forum posts said compiling glitz from cvs fixed their problem (which gave virtually identical errors to mine)
[01:15] <cwillu> joe4444: that's weird too
[01:15] <joe4444> cwillu, i also changed the sub-something just below that
[01:15] <joe4444> hang on...
[01:15] <bishopek> Does anyone know if it's possible to make nozomi run under 2.6.17 somehow? Or any other kernel with ubuntu?
[01:16] <[StingRay] > Can somebody tell me if IRQ is the problem why I can't install the drivers for my sound: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with CMI9739 at 0xdffffa00, irq 201
[01:16] <joe4444> cwillu, i changed DefaultDepth from 24 to 16, and under SubSection "Display" i changed Depth from 24 to 16
[01:16] <simmerz> cwillu: hmm, trying it locally doesn't appear to work either. sudo mount //192.168.254.211/music /mnt/test on the samba host seems broken. ok. thanks for your pointers to get me this far
[01:16] <cwillu> joe4444: so there was only one display subsection?
[01:16] <joe4444> b/c that's my only SubSection in the "Screen" Section
[01:16] <joe4444> yeah i removed the others like someone suggested on a thread
[01:17] <cwillu> simmerz: sudo mount //192.168.254.211/music /mnt/test -t cifs -o username=.........
[01:17] <simmerz> I get this on the host: 27345: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[01:17] <cwillu> joe4444: the others should be able to stay no problem, they only kick in when their depth is chosen
[01:17] <joe4444> ...basically i just copied someone else's xorg.conf and tweaked a few settings until it worked =)
[01:17] <cwillu> joe4444: can you pastebin me your xorg.conf?
[01:17] <joe4444> k
[01:18] <cwillu> simmerz: which version of windows is running?
[01:18] <ekul`> !cvs
[01:18] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[01:19] <livingdaylight> cwillu: no luck :(
[01:19] <bishopek> Anyone?
[01:19] <simmerz> cwillu: none. host is gentoo. I get this with -t cifs, -o username=...,password=...: mount error 6 = No such device or address
[01:19] <simmerz> I'm asking in #gentoo
[01:19] <cwillu> livingdaylight: thinking about it, I'm wondering if that error is more serious, if only because it might have broken something else later in the line
[01:19] <cwillu> simmerz: which version of windows?
[01:19] <cwillu> ahh
[01:19] <cwillu> simmerz: so you're running samba on gentoo?
[01:20] <simmerz> yes
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i'm totally confused why anthing would suddenly break
[01:20] <tarelerulz> if I uninstall mplayer with ubuntu could I maybe uninstall the souce verssion
[01:20] <cwillu> simmerz: you might have to use the hostname instead of the ip address (the ip can be set via an option if necessary)
[01:20] <cwillu> livingdaylight: the update that broke you mentioned before?
[01:20] <joe4444> cwillu, http://dpaste.com/6606/
[01:21] <cwillu> simmerz: in smb/cifs, the hostname matters (it gets sent to the target machine)
[01:21] <xNinja> whats the XGL and AIGLX
[01:21] <livingdaylight> cwillu: is there an obvious solution, apart from reinstall Ubuntu?
[01:21] <joe4444> i commented lines near the end to match an example xorg.conf that someone on a forum said worked for their dual displays... haven't tried to uncomment any of them yet
[01:22] <Roger_Melly> Can anyone help a complete Noob figure out a synaptic issue?
[01:22] <cwillu> xNinja: two different manners of getting an accelerated composite extension, in order to do fancy 3d desktop effects
[01:23] <xNinja> cwillu i have intel built in 128mb vga....which it is using ?
[01:23] <IdleOne> !universe | Roger_Melly you need to enable universe and multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> Roger_Melly you need to enable universe and multiverse: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:23] <cwillu> livingdaylight: well, nothing obvious comes to mind, and that whole unicodedecodeerror has me worried
[01:23] <Pici> IdleOne: He didnt even ask his question yet
[01:23] <IdleOne> Pici, :P $1 says Im right
[01:23] <cwillu> joe4444: are you particularily attached to using fglrx?
[01:23] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Whats the issue?
[01:23] <livingdaylight> cwillu: sounz like time for something drastic
[01:24] <cwillu> livingdaylight: actually, here's a thought
[01:24] <Roger_Melly> IdleOne, I can't work out why my Synaptic has an old version of libipod.  How do I update it so it's all automatic.
[01:24] <cwillu> livingdaylight: get an edgy livecd, and see if you can get the printer working from that
[01:24] <ekul`> !beryl
[01:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:24] <ekul`> #ubuntu-effects
[01:24] <joe4444> cwillu, well it's the only way i got my desktop to expand across both displays instead of mirroring
[01:24] <ekul`> oops sorry
[01:24] <joe4444> cwillu, although i don't know if some of the other settings had more to do with that
[01:24] <bishopek> Does anyone know if it's possible to make nozomi run under 2.6.17 somehow? Or any other kernel with ubuntu?
[01:24] <xNinja> how to know what my vga is using...XGL or others ?
[01:25] <priich> livingdaylight, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf            make sure that the fots referenced there actually exists and are installed in the paths it points to. I had one dist-upgrade break that for me and it caused alll kinds of freaky erros (among others xchat broke.)
[01:25] <joe4444> cwillu, i just installed ubuntu today :)
[01:25] <IdleOne> Roger_Melly, I have no idea :( /me hands off to Pici
[01:25] <cwillu> joe4444: I've got a slightly older ati (9250), I got it working via radeon fairly easily;  I could show you that xorg (might even work as a straight replacement)
[01:25] <andrerav_> anyone with jflex+cup experience here? I need a few tips :)
[01:25] <ace> hi all
[01:25] <tarelerulz> I put mplayer insto find in gnome and It comes up with the same file files everytime
[01:25] <tarelerulz> I know that is wrong
[01:25] <Pici> Roger_Melly: What version are you expecting, and what version do you see?
[01:25] <cwillu> joe4444: the only catch is that the accelerated display has graphical issues on the second display (although it may be fixed by now, that was a few months ago)
[01:25] <ace> I keep forgetting how to install 'mail', I don't mean postfix, I mean the simple 'mail' command
[01:25] <joe4444> cwillu, i'll try that... now that i know i can easily revert back to something that is 95% where i want to be
[01:26] <ace> the one you can use to do 'df | mail root'
[01:26] <joe4444> cwillu, only when 3d accel is enabled?
[01:26] <joe4444> i really don't care about 3d stuff, but if i can get it to work w/o drawbacks i'd use it
[01:27] <cwillu> joe4444: 3d accel works regardless, but the composite extension can have issues
[01:27] <cwillu> joe4444: http://home.cwillu.com/misc/xorg.conf is mine;  make a backup of yours and try dropping mine in instead, and rebooting
[01:27] <livingdaylight> priich: i don't know what you mean by fots. Maybe you could havea quick look for me, please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9421/
[01:27] <xNinja> hello!! no one can answer my question or what!!
[01:27] <cwillu> joe4444: you might need to disable the fglrx module though
[01:28] <xNinja> how i can know what my vga is using....XGL or aIXGL....how to know that ?
[01:28] <livingdaylight> cwillu: if i could get it working from a live cd, what would it prove?
[01:28] <jrib> ace: mailutils, mailx?
[01:28] <PriceChild> xNinja, You are using xorg7.0/xorg7.1
[01:28] <Roger_Melly> Pici: I have 0.5.1  I'm trying to use various music managers I'm trying Banshee.  There web shows 0.5.2 as stable.  I have downloaded the tar.gz but they then say: extract/change into the root libipoddevice source directory.  No idea what this means....
[01:28] <PriceChild> xNinja, you are not using aiglx or xgl
[01:28] <cwillu> livingdaylight: that you're not crazy
[01:28] <PriceChild> xNinja, if you want to install beryl/compiz head to #ubuntu-effects
[01:28] <ace> ah, i just found it, thanks jrib, it's mailutils... strange that that is not standard !!!
[01:29] <cwillu> livingdaylight: you'd need the cd to reinstall anyway
[01:29] <livingdaylight> cwillu: are you suggesting i reinstall Edgy?  :o
[01:29] <livingdaylight> OMG
[01:29] <yomm> Hi , Could anyone help me getting Sound with Quake3 ?
[01:30] <priich> livingdaylight, err that's a typo for fonts. :)
[01:30] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I thought that was the drastic option you were about to do
[01:30] <ace> thanks, bye
[01:30] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Where did you download it from? I'd like to see the instructions and the package
[01:31] <cwillu> livingdaylight: but if it works from the livecd, then it should be recoverable here, it'd just be a matter of figuring out how
[01:31] <joe4444> cwillu, anything i should change before trying your xorg.conf ?
[01:31] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ^^ so you are agreeing that is what i am reduced to
[01:31] <cwillu> joe4444: as long as the resolutions are fine, it should work fine
[01:31] <Roger_Melly> Pici: here http://banshee-project.org/Subprojects/Libipoddevice
[01:31] <livingdaylight> cwillu: well, we already know i am crazy
[01:31] <cwillu> joe4444: one sec
[01:31] <ekul`> !xgl
[01:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:31] <cwillu> joe4444: make sure the busid in Section "Device" is the same as your video card
[01:32] <suppaman> hi
[01:32] <cwillu> joe4444: although yours seems a bit weird:  is it an agp card?
[01:32] <cwillu> livingdaylight: we're all crazy :p
[01:32] <joe4444> cwillu, so for "MetaModes" i should use "1440x900-1440x900" not "1440x900+1440x900" ?
[01:32] <Roger_Melly> Pici:  I have tried to install a 2nd gen nano on several other managers but with difficulty!!!!! I still haven't found a good solution yet.  I'm hoping this will be it!
[01:32] <joe4444> yeah it's AGP
[01:33] <cwillu> joe4444: hmm;  2:0:0 is usually the agp slot, so I'm suspicious of that, but who knows :p
[01:33] <doron> where i can study C SHELL?
[01:33] <joe4444> i'll try both
[01:33] <cwillu> joe4444: if 1024x768 works, I'd stick to that for now, just to make sure no other issues crop up at the same time
[01:33] <joe4444> k
[01:33] <cwillu> and '-' is the right syntax in this case
[01:34] <cwillu> simmerz: joe4444:  livingdaylight:  brb
[01:34] <yomm> !quake
[01:34] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[01:34] <yomm> natively without sound yeah :/
[01:35] <yomm> lol
[01:35] <blind> quake 3 runs perfect for me
[01:35] <blind> i haven't gotten quake 4 yet
[01:35] <cwillu> simmerz: joe4444:  livingdaylight:  back
[01:35] <yomm> blind ; never can get sound on Ubuntu with Quake3 :/
[01:35] <yomm> blind : on 3 diff setups
[01:35] <Pici> Roger_Melly: It looks like it just wants you to extract it to anywhere. i.e.: `tar xzvf libipoddevice-0.5.2.tar.gz`  then cd into the newly created reictory and then follow the rest of the directions, of course just following the tarball part
[01:35] <Sus> hi
[01:36] <Pici> Roger_Melly: reictory->directory
[01:36] <Sus> I need a little bit help
[01:36] <joe4444> cwillu, 2:0:0 didn't work but 1:0:0 did... although i'm getting no signal on my DVI display now even though the resolution is set to 2048x768
[01:36] <blind> yomm: weird. O_o
[01:36] <blind> i have it working fine.
[01:36] <simmerz> cwillu: this is all a bit odd. btw, does this look right? http://rafb.net/p/UYW5z850.html
[01:37] <Sus> can Ubuntu with Vista multibooting?and the bootmanager easy to configuire?
[01:37] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Sus
[01:37] <ubotu> Sus: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:37] <Roger_Melly> Pici; okay thanks I will give that a go.  Should I create a directory that needs to be permanent?
[01:37] <ub12> how do I rip from a wav file in a directory to mp3?
[01:37] <Sus> thx
[01:37] <PriceChild> Sus, I've a strange suspicion that grub doesn't like vista... but don't quote me on that.
[01:37] <PriceChild> !soundconverter | ub12
[01:37] <ubotu> ub12: soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[01:37] <ugarit> I've set my TZ to UTC but when I got to the calendar in GNOME and select adjust date and time the timezone appears as Africa/Accra and it actually changes the UTC to that.  Apparently there's not UTC in this calendar GUI.
[01:37] <simmerz> cwillu: off to lunch. back later
[01:38] <cwillu> simmerz: looks fine to me
[01:38] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Nope.  After you do the `sudo make install` it will install it into the correct permanent directories
[01:38] <ub12> PriceChild, Thanks
[01:38] <Roger_Melly> Pici:  Thanks, most helpful :)
[01:38] <cwillu> joe4444: one sec
[01:39] <Sus> i need vista it easy to ipv6 networs configure and i need linux it east to mpls
[01:39] <joe4444> cwillu, however i try the MetaModes it just puts all the space on the VGA display even if it doesn't "fit"
[01:39] <_Jaak_> how do i change the id name of my bluetooth... right now it's seen as ubuntu-0
[01:40] <IdleOne> Sus, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo?
[01:40] <Sus> just a moment
[01:40] <cwillu> joe4444: :/ well, that's about all I can think of for that
[01:41] <cwillu> joe4444: unless there's some glitch with the MonitorLayout option, but that's just idle speculation  ('man radeon' might shed some light)
[01:41] <cwillu> joe4444: you _should_ be able to get acceleration working on both displays, but its not working nice and simply like its supposed to :)
[01:41] <poh> hello
[01:41] <Sus> and added to the boot screnn
[01:42] <Sus> ok but can he vista detect?
[01:43] <Flightbase> when i boot ubuntu server cd i see the language setting menue - but then he says he cant find the cdrom anymore. mainboard is an asus p5b-vm
[01:43] <cwillu> joe4444: brb
[01:43] <ekul2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9422/
[01:43] <Artemis3> has anyone noticed current updates seem to suggest a dist upgrade?
[01:44] <Roger_Melly> Pici: Its telling meNo package 'gobject-2.0' found
[01:44] <Roger_Melly> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[01:44] <Roger_Melly> No package 'dbus-glib-1' found
[01:44] <Roger_Melly> No package 'libgtop-2.0' found
[01:44] <Roger_Melly> No package 'libxml-2.0' found
[01:45] <Roger_Melly>   I'm guessing I've got to go to synaptic and get all this......
[01:45] <jrib> !paste | Roger_Melly
[01:45] <ubotu> Roger_Melly: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:46] <joe4444> cwillu, any idea why my DVI display shows Out of Range, H. Freq: 34KHz, V. Freq: 30Hz ?
[01:46] <cwillu> joe4444: probably doesn't like the resolution
[01:46] <cwillu> joe4444: actually its kinda a good sign
[01:46] <cwillu> ie. it's sending something to it
[01:46] <cwillu> joe4444: try setting the meta-modes and others to the resolution you had in yours
[01:46] <PriceChild> Artemis3, dist-upgrade is required to install new packages. upgrade only upgrades existing packages.
[01:47] <Roger_Melly> Oh sorry, what have I done.....????
[01:47] <Menasim1> I want to install ubuntu
[01:47] <cwillu> usplash leaves me with useless tty's;  how do I get around this?
[01:47] <joe4444> the VGA (right) displays fine, but it's just the background... the login prompt and everything else is on the DVI (left), i just can't see it
[01:47] <Menasim1> but downloading when I boot the cd
[01:47] <joe4444> cwillu, i already tried that with your xorg.conf
[01:47] <cwillu> :/
[01:47] <cwillu> joe4444: metamodes you set to twice the x resolution, right?
[01:48] <joe4444> well, only MetaModes... should i change something else, too?
[01:48] <salty-horse> hi. i'm trying to update tzdata via apt-get and it gives me the following error: Err http://il.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main tzdata 2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10
[01:48] <salty-horse>   404 Not Found [IP: 192.116.202.128 80] 
[01:48] <salty-horse> Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 192.116.202.128 80] 
[01:48] <salty-horse> I checked from the browser, and 192.116.202.128:80 works just fine - what could cause this?
[01:48] <cwillu> joe4444: meta should be twice the x, the rest should be the normal resolution
[01:48] <joe4444> i tried "MetaModes" "1440x900-1440x900"
[01:48] <IdleOne> Roger_Melly, when you want to show the output of a command to the channel use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for large amounts of text i.e 3 lines or more
[01:48] <cwillu> one sec
[01:48] <joe4444> and "MetaModes" "1440x900+1440x900"
[01:48] <cwillu> joe4444: oops, my bad
[01:48] <DarkX> salty-horse, the package doesnt exist anymore?
[01:49] <jrib> salty-horse: the actual file doesn't exist
[01:49] <cwillu> joe4444: yes, metamodes should be "1440x900-1440x900", but in the SubDesction "Display", you need to change something
[01:49] <DarkX> 404 error means the file is gone
[01:49] <Roger_Melly> All; sorry
[01:49] <Artemis3> PriceChild, check upgrade manager todays updates say something like: "some packages could not be upgraded as this requires to dist upgrade" then a button below appears offering to upgrade distribution
[01:49] <tarelerulz> kmplayer is the only media that I have see that plays over smb well
[01:49] <Pici> Roger_Melly: It seems that you'll need the -dev or -devel versions of those packages to compile your package.  It would be easiest to find those in synaptic and then install them.  Hopefully after those dependencies are resolved you will be good.
[01:49] <cwillu> joe4444: Virtual needs to be 2880x900 for depths 16 and 24
[01:49] <cwillu> (1440 x 2)
[01:49] <jrib> salty-horse: try 'sudo apt-get update' first, then 'sudo apt-get install tzdata' to update
[01:49] <salty-horse> jrib, then how come its in the apt server's listing? is it a problem with the mirror i'm using?
[01:49] <PriceChild> Artemis3, I'm on Feisty so haven't seen this... but I'm sure pressing "yes" will get you there :)
[01:49] <Artemis3> PriceChild, current for edgy
[01:49] <IdleOne> Roger_Melly, no biggie your new so we forgive you...do it again and back to windows for you :P
[01:50] <Artemis3> PriceChild, yes but, this looks a bit strange...
[01:50] <DarkX> salty-horse,  try apt-get update
[01:50] <salty-horse> jrib, same error.. sec, i'll compare mirrors
[01:50] <salty-horse> DarkX, i did
[01:50] <DarkX> then the mirror may be f00bar
[01:50] <PriceChild> Artemis3, do a "sudo apt-get dist upgrade" and pastebin it... don't press Y so I can take a looksee :)
[01:50] <Artemis3> PriceChild, as feisty is not even beta yet, and it has happened to me in 2 different machines already
[01:50] <DarkX> or in middle of resyncing
[01:50] <Roger_Melly> Pici: Gordon Bennett!  as they say. I have looked at synaptic and not one of these things exist!  I am sure I'm having fun.  The wife isn't.!
[01:50] <Artemis3> PriceChild, ok hold on
[01:50] <NET||abuse> hmm, anyone here use a crm package to manage their clients? like sugar crm,, i'm trying to decide on what to use..
[01:51] <ekul2> i used sugar crm
[01:51] <cwillu> PriceChild: Artemis3:  this sounds related to what livingdaylight was saying
[01:51] <ekul2> still do, sort of
[01:51] <Artemis3> PriceChild, you sure thats the command? maybe you mean apt-get update?
[01:51] <ekul2> bit heavy for my needs though
[01:52] <cwillu> livingdaylight has a random dist-upgrade, couldn't figure out why; it seemed to break a couple things
[01:52] <PriceChild> Artemis3, whoops i meant "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:52] <jrib> salty-horse: give it a few minutes, look at http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, seems like "archive-update" is in progress
[01:52] <cwillu> livingdaylight: watch what they're doing, in case anything interesting comes up :)
[01:52] <salty-horse> hmm... i can see tzdata_2007b-0ubuntu1_all.deb in there, but aptitude looks for tzdata_2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10_all.deb
[01:52] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Just do a search for the package name itself, without the -dev part, I see libgtop2-dev in the security repos right now
[01:53] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I'm in and out of the room, but I'm still interested
[01:53] <jrib> salty-horse: or use a mirror like you said :)
[01:53] <livingdaylight> cwillu: i was bout to reboot into live cd. but me is interested in was ist going on here?
[01:53] <joe4444> cwillu, now i get "No signal" on the DVI (left), but no indication of invalid H/V Freq... and the VGA is just blank
[01:53] <TangledUpInBlue> hello.  I am having a booting problem.  can anyone help me?
[01:54] <PriceChild> TangledUpInBlue, more information?
[01:54] <TangledUpInBlue>  dual boot Win2k/ubuntu 6.10. I had Ubuntu do the partioning, then installed ubuntu. Did the updates. booted back to win 2000, it did an automatic chkdsk and everything was ok. I then rebooted and wanted to go to Ubuntu again and it almost get up to the point where the menu comes up where I can select Win 2k or ubuntu to boot. before I can see a menu it just reboots again and again and again
[01:54] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: did you resolve that?
[01:55] <sirtol> hi all
[01:55] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, i have not let the dist upgrade itself ;)
[01:55] <sirtol> I'd like to know how to scroll in the CTRL+ALT+F8 text terminal
[01:55] <sirtol> is there a way to do so
[01:55] <sirtol> ?
[01:56] <joe4444> shift+pgup ?
[01:56] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, so far its simply update notifier or whatever the gui thing is called
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: i had a whole bunch of updates this morning and was told i had to upgrade distro. Since then it broke my xchat and i i can't printo anylonger
[01:56] <sirtol> joe4444: doesn't work
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: yes, the orange box
[01:56] <blind> time for bed.
[01:56] <Artemis3> yes thats what im being suggested too, but i have not accepted
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: why not?
[01:57] <joe4444> sirtol, i dunno... that's the only scroll i know
[01:57] <brockoli> Can anyone help me with my vmware player setup?  I'm almost there, just need network setup.
[01:57] <grogoreo> hi
[01:57] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, i don't want to upgrade to feisty just yet...
[01:57] <sirtol> joe4444: and where it works?
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> Brocoli, whts wrong with your network?
[01:57] <joe4444> in every terminal i use... not sure what F8 is tho
[01:57] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: you can still do sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:57] <grogoreo> if I use ssh to act as a proxy to my server for browsing the web, will ssh log this activity and if so, where are the log files?
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> F8 is reserved for extra X servers
[01:58] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, but its strange that a regular update would trigger that
[01:58] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: you know how to scroll it?
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: why would it tell us to upgrade to Feisty which is not even released yet?
[01:58] <TangledUpInBlue> PriceChild- any ideas?
[01:58] <brockoli> nosre: In vm guest winxp, under device mgr, it shows an ethernet card in yellow (no driver installed)
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: lol, yes, my point exact
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> scroll what?
[01:58] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, thats what i mean its strange, and thats what is happening
[01:58] <sirtol> joe4444: yes, shift+pgup works in xterm, but it's a non-x console
[01:58] <PriceChild> TangledUpInBlue, so it just keeps rebooting before you see the grub menu?
[01:58] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: F8 console
[01:58] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: ok, i'm glad i'm not the only one its happened to
[01:58] <Artemis3> livingdaylight, this could cause a lot of trouble today
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> you have to start a new x session
[01:59] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: it has already over here :(
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> I think its "switch user"
[01:59] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: and then?
[01:59] <TangledUpInBlue> Yes.  I wiped out the ubuntu partition, then repartitioned and reinstalled.. the same thing happened again???
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> and then log in again...
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> it'll make two X seesions
[01:59] <Artemis3> arg pastebin hates me
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> I'm sure exactly how GDM/gnome works....I use KDM/Kde
[02:00] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: that is what prompted me to get onto xchat, but then i couldn't coz it was broke or something; when i did do distro upgrade thingy whatteverthe exact command was, i also lost printing
[02:00] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: sorry, but I really don't understand how to scroll that text (CTRL+ALT+F8) doing what you say :(
[02:00] <Artemis3> im holding a dist upgrade as feisty is not even beta
[02:00] <Roger_Melly> Pici; Sorry to be a pain  I have found something called gob2, bglibs-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev and libxml++ 1.0-dev, nothing for libgtop.  Cripes!!!!
[02:00] <Artemis3> but its not right to offer this atm to regular users
[02:02] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: but why would we be asked to dist-upgrade?
[02:02] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: i hope this is not another fiasco like we saw with X11 back when
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> first you have to click the log out button, "switch user",it'll bring you to a new login window(GDM) login in from there. you can switch between both X servers by pressing ctl+alt+f7 or f8
[02:02] <cwillu> livingdaylight: for the record, my dpkg-reconfigure --all is still running :p
[02:02] <livingdaylight> Artemis3: coz that wasn't funny
[02:02] <sebrock> How do I save the keyring permanent so I never have to type the password manually? Even after reboot?
[02:03] <livingdaylight> cwillu: did you, out of interest, also get the dist-upgrade prompt on updating today?
[02:03] <gays> How often does webalizer update?
[02:03] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I haven't seen it, but I haven't applied any updates today;  I'm gonna look at it as soon as dpkg finishes
[02:03] <Pici> Roger_Melly: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:03] <livingdaylight> cwillu: dpkg still running?!
[02:03] <cwillu> Artemis3: what country are you from?
[02:04] <cwillu> livingdaylight: yep :p
[02:04] <cwillu> livingdaylight: its even asked me a few more printing questions :p
[02:04] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: ah, but I don't want another X session, I'd like to scroll the text I _already_ read in CTRL+ALT+F8: I saw an error or something similar, but it was going too fast and now is 'outside' the monitor height
[02:04] <Grif3r> where's config file for date (if any)?
[02:04] <Roger_Melly> Pici: Edgy Gnome.
[02:04] <livingdaylight> cwillu: after the last x11fiasco ubuntu had, i swore not to be first in line for updating...i must change my settings in future not to have it set for daily
[02:05] <cwillu> livingdaylight: lol
[02:05] <ben325e> is it possible to restart linux without rebooting?
[02:05] <Grif3r> ben325e u stupid or what?
[02:05] <livingdaylight> brb
[02:05] <Grif3r> ofcourse not..
[02:05] <sirtol> ben325e: what do you mean by "restarting linux"?
[02:05] <cwillu> I've got a couple dozen machines running edgy:  automatic updates without confirmation is the work of the devil :)
[02:05] <sirtol> ben325e: if you mean the graphical interface: yes
[02:05] <cwillu> ben325e: it's possible to restart almost any piece of linux without rebooting, yes
[02:05] <ben325e> Grif3r thanx for the hospitality, you must be from the south.
[02:06] <sirtol> ben325e: if you mean what actually means (: the kernel), no
[02:06] <Grif3r> sirtol: that's X
[02:06] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Hm.  I'm running the same and I see libgtop2-dev
[02:06] <jrib> !coc | ben325e, Grif3r
[02:06] <ubotu> ben325e, Grif3r: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> sitol: all logged messages are in /var/log/messages
[02:07] <cwillu> Artemis3: long shot:  what country are you from?
[02:07] <cwillu> Artemis3: uk?
[02:07] <ben325e> I understand jrib.. just responding to the "Are you stupid or what" comment by Grif3r... apparently that doesn't warrant an admonishment to read the code....
[02:07] <sebrock> How do I save the keyring permanent so I never have to type the password manually? Even after reboot??
[02:07] <Roger_Melly> Pici: sorry yes it is there and already marked installed.  it must have been one of the others that I couldn't find reference to.  Soz
[02:07] <Jeruvy> sebrock: you can't
[02:07] <Pici> Roger_Melly: No problems :)
[02:07] <sirtol> nosrednaekim: I already read carefully any /var/log file recently modified by the system but it isn't there
[02:08] <Roger_Melly> Pici should I go ahead and install this lot and see what happens?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> hmmm well then IDK..
[02:08] <sebrock> Jeruvy, so I have to enter the password everytime I start a SSH session to my school?
[02:08] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Sure
[02:08] <cwillu> sebrock: certs or username/password?
[02:08] <Jeruvy> sebrock: that depends on your ssh client...
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> sebrock, you can keep  private key, so that you don't have to do that,but I'm not sure how that works
[02:10] <jrib> sebrock: why don't you use ssh keys?
[02:10] <sebrock> cwillu, Jeruvy I made a desktop icon for a sftp session to school... it ask for keyring pass
[02:11] <unimatrix9> if i convert an ogg theora file of 228 mb to avi, i end up with an 12gb file, is this normal? or an program error?
[02:11] <boubbin> unimatrix9 then the avi is not packed.
[02:12] <ailean> guys, is there a way to play random albums? i.e. a straight play of an album from start to finish, but with the albums randomly chosen?
[02:12] <unimatrix9> hmm, okey
[02:12] <seshomaru1234> hi, im in rescue mode ,need to reinstall gnome, but i have no internet connection cause ubuntu suddenly choses my wireless connection instead of the cable. how do i use CLI to make it use cable instead of wireless? (i tried ifup eth0, but it said eth0 is unrecognised)
[02:12] <Orfeous> vicente, back again ;)
[02:12] <boubbin> it ispossible that it taked alot of hdd when not using any packingmethod
[02:12] <cwillu> sebrock: do you use a username and password to log into it though, or do you have a private/public key pair?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> yes... ailean get amaroK
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> its a KDE program, but better than rythmbox
[02:12] <ailean> nosrednaekim, i got it, but it's not quite doing that.  It plays a couple of tracks from the same album randomly before moving onto the next album - playing a couple of random tracks
[02:13] <sebrock> cwillu, well the link includes my login, so I guess my password is saved into the keyring
[02:13] <sebrock> and that is what it asks for
[02:14] <lesshaste> I just installed the lightning extension but... err... where is  it? I mean I can't see how to start it ??  http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4088/screencx7.png seems to show it greyed out.  Any ideas?
[02:14] <Roger_Melly> Pici.  Wey-hey!!! it worked!  I had to add something called libsgutils, but it eventually worked.  Whats a dev?   I have no idea what I have just done.  It aint Windows! lol
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> a dev is a set of files need for compiling ussually
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> or rather a package
[02:14] <jrib> sebrock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30709 should give you the basic idea... there are millions of guides on google too probably
[02:14] <Pici> Roger_Melly: -dev packages include the source files needed for compiling things.
[02:14] <cwillu> sebrock: you could use a fuse module to mount it;  there's typically some provisions for providng the password;  on the other hand, storing your password unencrypted on a machine is considered somewhat less than desireable
[02:16] <ctothej> Hi, I have Ubuntu Edgy + Beryl/XGL and I want to change the behavior of child windows spawning at the cursor. I would rather them spawn in the center of their parent windows. How can I set/change this behavior?
[02:16] <Roger_Melly> Pici nosrednaekim for example the thing was telling me i didn't have glib-2  I installed bglibs-dev.  What happened?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> bglibs-dev?
[02:17] <PriceChild> ctothej, > #ubuntu-effects and I don't think that's possible...
[02:17] <sebrock> k will look into it, although I think thats not the problem... anwayway thanx
[02:18] <ctothej> PriceChild: damn, ok ill ask in there too. Thanks.
[02:18] <mojo__> i have 1 question
[02:18] <mojo__> are there any linux scanner on linux that can detect Win virus?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> !language | ctothej
[02:18] <ubotu> ctothej: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:18] <Roger_Melly> Pici nosrednaekim:  Yes bglib-dev some sort of BG library?
[02:19] <kaso> mojo__ i believe avg have a version for linux
[02:19] <unimatrix9> i think avg has an linux version too
[02:19] <PriceChild> mojo__, avg, clamav
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> Roger: I guess, but ussually, devs are only used for compiling.
[02:19] <mojo__> isn't it better than Kavspery?
[02:20] <unimatrix9> there are prof anti virus scanner ( that cost ) too
[02:20] <mojo__> i dun mind what cost
[02:20] <mojo__> i just need to kill all virus on my windows partition
[02:20] <unimatrix9> f-prot , is an other option...i think there is an version of that too, or an online scanner
[02:21] <Pippa> what is the difference between a /home and /documents partition. I have partitioned mine as /home
[02:21] <ben325e> Hi, I need to know where to look to find out if I'm running xgl or xorg..... ati radeon xpress 200 prob...
[02:21] <TangledUpInBlue> Anyone know how I totally remove ubuntu from my dul boot PC so there is no more grub menu an it will just boot directly to windows 2k?  pardon my n00bness
[02:21] <Pici> Roger_Melly: `apt-cache show bglibs-dev` says that they are named after the coder, Bruce Guenter.  See http://untroubled.org/bglibs/ for more information.
[02:21] <ailean> TangledUpInBlue, giving up on Ubuntu?
[02:21] <PriceChild> TangledUpInBlue, use the win2k cd to restore your master boot record then use some partition manager to delete the ubuntu partition and resize windows
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Tangled: we won't help you do that :-P
[02:22] <TangledUpInBlue> No.. It just doesnt seem to work well with this pc..I have it on another and i love it!
[02:22] <ailean> TangledUpInBlue, of course we'll help you do that if you want
[02:22] <ailean> ffs :)
[02:22] <coltrane> hi I'm a newbie with linux but an unthusiasm one! I'll like to install my graphic drivers ( it's an onboard graphic card, SIS661FX) . I have the drivers (*.o). the help files give a path to put the files in (for red hat 9.0) but this path doesn't exist ubuntu.. please help!
[02:22] <ailean> TangledUpInBlue, what PriceChild said
[02:22] <cosmodad> what script/program dos the "log off" switch in GNOME correspond to?
[02:22] <mm_> hello, i'm having problems with amanda-client on edgy i found this hint http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1750498&postcount=5 is anybody using amanda successfully with the default edgy packages?
[02:23] <Pippa> what is the difference between a /home and /documents partition. I have partitioned mine as /home
[02:23] <TangledUpInBlue> Cool Thanks!
[02:23] <deadchip> guys i can't install vim-full on Feisty?
[02:23] <deadchip> err
[02:23] <deadchip> w/o the ?
[02:23] <deadchip> is this a known problem at the moment?
[02:23] <ailean> Pippa, what's the /documents partition?
[02:23] <ailean> Pippa, did you create that?
[02:23] <deadchip> it seems the vim-core/-common versions are mismatched atm
[02:23] <mm_> !graphic
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <Pippa> ailean: no i did not..
[02:23] <PriceChild> coltrane, You don't need to install separate drivers... just configure your xorg.conf to use the included sis drivers. I think this is already done, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> Tangled: I was joking
[02:23] <coltrane> ok thaks ubotu
[02:23] <PriceChild> deadchip, #ubuntu+1 please
[02:23] <PriceChild> !bot | coltrane
[02:23] <ubotu> coltrane: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:24] <ailean> Pippa, as far as I am aware the standard ubuntu install does not have a /documents folder
[02:24] <mm_> !ati | coltrane
[02:24] <ubotu> coltrane: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <deadchip> ubuntu+1 ?
[02:24] <ailean> Pippa, but the /home folder has a very definite use
[02:24] <deadchip> channel's name?
[02:24] <ailean> !home | Pippa
[02:24] <deadchip> ah, thanks
[02:24] <Roger_Melly> Pici nosrednaekim sorry but if you have the time....The last time i programmed it was on my ZX81 in basic, run gosub, error in line 2004567 and so on.   Compile and whats a library or lib??
[02:24] <PriceChild> mm_, sis is a graphics card manufac
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <PriceChild> deadchip, yes
[02:25] <ailean> Pippa, the home folder holds all of the users settings and personal documents
[02:25] <Pippa> ailean: my concern is when i will upgrade..will there be probs with my /home partition and files? will the upgrade too?
[02:25] <PriceChild> Pippa, everything should be fine, although backups are always good
[02:25] <ailean> Pippa, It shouldn't touch them
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> a library, can be used for both running and compiling, but dev are ussually used exclusively for compiling
[02:25] <ekimus> Pippa: most probably no, you can f**** up your install but in 99% of the time it won't touch /home (except for when you repartition of course)
[02:25] <ailean> Pippa, did you set up your ubuntu install?
[02:26] <PriceChild> Pippa, No matter whether you're upgrading or not... its obviously good practice to make regular backups off the hard drive
[02:26] <ailean> guys, where did this /documents directory come from? anyone got any idea?
[02:26] <Jowi> !info xserver-xorg-driver-sis
[02:26] <JohanLs> dude
[02:26] <ubotu> Package xserver-xorg-driver-sis does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:26] <Pippa> ok.. so no incompatibily or wrong version files would not be problematic, right? i'm currently burning the installation
[02:26] <Pici> Roger_Melly: Compiling is when source code is turned into executable programs.  Libraries are basically pieces of helper code.  Its a little more complicated than that, but thats the gist of it.
[02:27] <coltrane> the link is not good, my on board graphic card is SIS
[02:27] <ailean> Pippa, back up anything important just in case, but no. there should be no problem
[02:27] <deadchip> ok i just didn't know channels can have a + heh
[02:27] <Jowi> hmmm... has xserver-xorg-driver-sis been removed...?
[02:27] <PriceChild> coltrane, Please see what I said earlier
[02:27] <Pippa> ok thank you
[02:27] <PriceChild> deadchip, no problem :)
[02:27] <PriceChild> Jowi, has it? :S
[02:27] <Jowi> PriceChild, apt-cache list it but I can not get any info of it.
[02:27] <PriceChild> Jowi, No I can see it...
[02:27] <coltrane> ok sorry thanks
[02:27] <coltrane> :)
[02:28] <PriceChild> coltrane, pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I'll see if you already have it installed
[02:28] <Roger_Melly> Pici nosredraekim thanks for your help.
[02:29] <Jowi> PriceChild, ah, it's been replaced with xserver-xorg-video-sis
[02:30] <Jowi> coltrane, see if it is installed by typing this: "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-sis"
[02:30] <Kaplan_> www.sofotec.blogspot.com
[02:31] <olrrai_> how can I redirec to /dev/nul as common user?
[02:31] <Kaplan_> www.sofotec.blogspot.com
[02:31] <unimatrix9> whats that Kaplan?
[02:32] <whatspy> good morning, when all you have is 6 tty's and no graphical environment, how's the politically correct way to do many tasks at once?
[02:32] <merc> Kaplan_: that's not even in english, half the people here cant read it.
[02:32] <whatspy> i have no idea how to google that
[02:32] <PriceChild> !screen | whatspy
[02:32] <ubotu> whatspy: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[02:32] <fnf> olrrai_: /dev/null is always available to all users by default.
[02:32] <merc> screen rocks :)
[02:32] <Kaplan_> you can tranlate it in the right sidebar
[02:32] <Kaplan_> :)
[02:33] <merc> sounds like work..
[02:33] <olrrai_> fnf: not for me :(
[02:33] <whatspy> screen huh... thx! :)
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> whatspy: atrl+alt f2 f3 etc etc... is "polically" correct
[02:33] <fnf> olrrai_: what is the output of 'ls -la /dev/null' ?
[02:33] <merc> being politically correct about it though, i dunno, just dont talk about colors.
[02:34] <olrrai_> oh, LOL I put /dev/nul !! not /dev/null
[02:34] <olrrai_> fucking msdos
[02:34] <whatspy> nosrednaekim: it works, but it's politically confusing when I use all 6 at once
[02:34] <merc> !ohmy
[02:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> what someone has something against the termnal being black?;)
[02:34] <merc> hehe
[02:34] <olrrai_> in msdos is >nul shit! it confused me
[02:34] <PriceChild> !ohmy | olrrai_
[02:34] <merc> terminals prefer to be called the opposite of the color that is the combination of all colors.
[02:34] <ubotu> olrrai_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <unimatrix9> then you change the colour..
[02:34] <olrrai_> sorry
[02:34] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone.....
[02:35] <olrrai_> I hate ms
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> merc, so what is that? greyish?
[02:35] <merc> lighter than greyish.
[02:35] <merc> the opposite..
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> ahh,,,, well its a light greyish
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:35] <livingdaylight> hehe
[02:35] <merc> NO ITS BLACK!
[02:35] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:36] <Chai_Sangeen> im trying to to compile the latest stable kernel on my macbook thats runing edgy.... kernel 2.6.17-10-generic
[02:36] <olrrai_> thanks guys
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[02:36] <merc> we're talking about the color of the terminal, that is totally on topic!
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> haha... totally
[02:36] <fnf> Chai_Sangeen: So ?
[02:36] <Pici> Not for the support channel.
[02:36] <livingdaylight> cwillu: shady is back
[02:36] <Chai_Sangeen> i follwed this link...http://simon.vanderlinden.eu.org/build-a-new-kernel-for-ubuntu/
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Chai, whats your problem?
[02:36] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, why do you need to do that?
[02:36] <Chai_Sangeen> the prob is when i boot and select the kernel from gub but it just gets stuck on th eloading screen
[02:37] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ping
[02:37] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, 2.6.17-10-generic you can download from the repos.
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> Alt-f2 right after you select it grub..it'll show you the error
[02:38] <Chai_Sangeen> 2.6.17-10 is what i have installed
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> and whats wrong with it?
[02:38] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, oh ok. what is not supported for you on the macbook?
[02:38] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, that exist in 2.6.18 I mean?
[02:39] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, well the touch pad and not sure about the vid card
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> are you sure the touch pad is a kernel problem?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> the video card is definately supported...
[02:39] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, i also have probs with the ACPI hanging on boot
[02:40] <livingdaylight> has anyone else slipped on the dist-upgrade banana peel Canonical put infront of us?
[02:40] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, does it have intel graphics or ati? with the intel you need to install 915resolution. no idea about the touchpad though...
[02:40] <livingdaylight> cwillu: you dere?
[02:40] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, i think its the inel... it was the first edition macbook
[02:40] <Franek> what do i need to run xconfig?
[02:41] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, "lspci | grep -i vga" will tell you
[02:41] <hypn0> livingdaylight: not me, I watch where I put my feet  :-)
[02:41] <erUSUL> Franek: qt devel package
[02:41] <livingdaylight> hypn0: i am too trusting :(
[02:41] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML
[02:41] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, thanks
[02:41] <Franek> erUSUL: so apt-get install qt wright?
[02:42] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, same as I have. install package 915resolution and you will get higher resolutions
[02:42] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, so is it really worth upgading the kernel will i see better stability?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> !qt-dev
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, i already have ti installed
[02:42] <noel_> Greetings all.
[02:42] <bu2> I thought some of you might be able to tell me where this LocalSettings.php file is. I am installing an openid module in Medawiki and the faq says "If you installed the OpenID and Yadis PHP libraries via PEAR, your LocalSettings.php file may have a include_path override that prevents the PEAR libraries from being found. If your LocalSettings.php includes this line" But I don't know where the file is. Anybody have any idea?
[02:42] <a7p> hi everyone, I just "disabled" my gnome (feisty) by setting an applet to a mode which crashes it ... so does anyone know how to remove this plugin via comandline?
[02:43] <bahr> Is it normal, that I don't get any hits of gvim, after making a standard ubuntu 6.06 installation? I also enabled universe and multiverse repos
[02:43] <Hoxzer> bu2: locate?
[02:43] <ekimus> bu2: find / -type f -iname 'localesettings.php' 2>/dev/null in terminal
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> a7p: wat is it called?
[02:43] <a7p> bahr: not normal
[02:43] <Jowi> Chai_Sangeen, that's strange... anyway. here's a good link for kernel compile https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:43] <a7p> nosrednaekim: I do not know, it's this calendar-thing.
[02:43] <ekimus> Hoxzer: locate probably didn't catch it if he just installed
[02:43] <noel_> Greetings all. I am running ./configure, and I get this error."We need a working libXext to proceed. "
[02:43] <unimatrix9> a7p cant you boot in safe ?
[02:43] <Hoxzer> ekimus: yeah, but can't he do updatedb?
[02:44] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, I'll check it out... thanx for the link
[02:44] <Franek>  erUSUL: so apt-get install qt wright
[02:44] <noel_> How do I get a working libXext?
[02:44] <ekimus> sure he can :) - there's always more than one way
[02:44] <gumpish> Is there a way to tell apt-get which server to try first when fetching packages?
[02:44] <erUSUL> Franek: libqt3-mt-dev maybe libqt4-dev works too
[02:44] <a7p> unimatrix9: booting is no problem ... just witched to xfce ... so everything (but gnome with the missconfigured account ist available).
[02:45] <Franek> erUSUL:thanks
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Chai_: go to www.linux-latops.com
[02:45] <erUSUL> Franek: no problem
[02:45] <ekimus> gumpish: afaik no, but you shouldn't have more than one entry for each repo otherwise you'll run into an unfamous mmap bug (or if you have too many repos)
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> and check out what people had to do with macbooks
[02:46] <gumpish> :o ok thanks
[02:46] <rjtadmin> After upgrading samba server isnt working anymore
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> up grading to what
[02:46] <Chai_Sangeen> Jowi, do you have beryl installed? im having trouble activing skydome
[02:47] <bu2> ekimus hoxzer thanks. Locate worked
[02:47] <js_> does anybody now when the next release is due?
[02:47] <PriceChild> js_, april 29th ish
[02:47] <rjtadmin> after upgrading to edgy samba server doesnt work
[02:47] <ekimus> !release | js_
[02:47] <ubotu> js_: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:47] <mzfckr> 19 april?
[02:47] <js_> ahh
[02:48] <Enselic``> !printer
[02:48] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:51] <coltrane> jowi i have this
[02:52] <js_> will feisty amd64 be more transparent to things such as flash and other 32bit things?
[02:52] <coltrane> xserver-xorg-video-sis:
[02:52] <coltrane>   Installed: 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu2
[02:52] <coltrane>   Candidate: 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu2
[02:52] <coltrane>   Version table:
[02:52] <coltrane>  *** 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu2 0
[02:52] <coltrane>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[02:52] <coltrane>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:52] <jrib> js_: flash is closed source and made by adobe, it's up to them
[02:53] <coltrane> my onboard graphic card doesn't seem to work weel cause the display is slow
[02:53] <ekimus> !paste | coltrane
[02:54] <ubotu> coltrane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <PriceChild> coltrane, 3rd time : pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <CapaH> Ok maybe someone can help me here. What do I type in the SHELL to see a list of all WIFI networks within my reach and then once I find the one I want, how do I connect to it?
[02:54] <coltrane> ok sorry
[02:54] <js_> jrib: i mean options to use a 32bit firefox without messing around like an idiot
[02:55] <ekimus> CapaH: i think iwlist scan
[02:55] <jrib> js_: oh, not that I know of, but try #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <CapaH> then how do I connect to the one I want ekimus
[02:56] <coltrane> ok i understood the stuff , so here is the pastebin of my xorg.conf!
[02:56] <coltrane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9428/
[02:56] <Zewey> CaPaH: iwlist scan, and iwconfig <interface> essid <essid>
[02:56] <CapaH> perfect thanks Zewey
[02:56] <ekimus> CapaH: can't remember sorry, but i think in the manpage of iwlist the other iw... commands are under the see also section (at the bottom)
[02:56] <Zewey> that, or get network-manager, it's awesome :P
[02:58] <eilker> system has freezing problem, i think it is cause of mouse, how can i check or solve this ?
[02:58] <PriceChild> one second coltrane
[02:58] <coltrane> ok thanks
[02:59] <coltrane> the drivers i'm supposed to install are named "/VGA/sisdrv_430_20040604.o"
[02:59] <PriceChild> coltrane, You dont' need to install anything, they come with ubuntu
[02:59] <coltrane> but the display, like when i move a window, is very slow
[03:00] <coltrane> with window it's ok..
[03:00] <coltrane> but the display, like when i move a window, is very slow and with windows xp it's ok
[03:00] <PriceChild> coltrane, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change driver from "vesa" to "sis" in section device
[03:00] <coltrane> ok
[03:00] <PriceChild> coltrane, You will then need to restart your X server...
[03:00] <coltrane> i try this
[03:00] <PriceChild> coltrane, if this fails...
[03:01] <coltrane> yep?
[03:01] <PriceChild> coltrane, ctrl+alt+f1, log in, then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" to regenerate your sources.list
[03:01] <unimatrix9> wonder how much ram the system has...
[03:01] <PriceChild> unimatrix9, type top
[03:01] <ardchoille> How do I run top and have a specific app be at the top of the list?
[03:01] <coltrane> ok thanks
[03:01] <gnube> I am not getting the mod_rewrite voodoo to work, any Apache2 witch doctors in the house?
[03:01] <coltrane> i try and come back after :)
[03:01] <unimatrix9> coltrane his system i ment..
[03:01] <unimatrix9> :P
[03:01] <PriceChild> gnube, hehe I always have trouble with that...
[03:02] <gnube> Yeah, apache2ctl is not complaining but nothing is working. *sigh*
[03:02] <PriceChild> gnube, I'm sorry though I have to disappear :(
[03:02] <rjtadmin> Wierd, after upgrading form dapper to edgy the rest of my network can't see this box. It's online and has an IP but no other machine can ping/ssh/samba it..any ideas
[03:02] <gnube> PriceChild, No problem.
[03:02] <ekimus> gnube: what does the error log say (and more importantly pls define _what_ you want to achieve with mod_rewrite....)
[03:02] <gnube> ekimus, Error log says nothing, access log says '200'
[03:03] <gnube> ekimus, I want mod_rewrite to move useragents that begin with the string 'Java' to someplace off my server
[03:03] <ekimus> gnube: then enable the rewrite log (RewriteLog /path/to/file - RewriteLoglevel 9 - apache2ctl -t && apache2ctl restart)
[03:04] <AMSmith42> Where is sources.list? I once knew, but I forget.
[03:04] <Frogzoo> AMSmith42: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <gnube> ekimus, The rewrite log is already enabled as far as I can tell, I put that in /etc/apach2/apache.conf
[03:04] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[03:04] <livingdaylight> AMSmith42: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[03:04] <KOC> Is there an easy way of accessing the local Windows partition from an Ubuntu live CD (i.e. without resorting to issuing "mount" commands)
[03:04] <ekimus> gnube: can you paste that? along with your rewriterule?
[03:04] <PriceChild> KOC, using gparted to mount it?
[03:04] <livingdaylight> cwillu: let me know when you get back
[03:05] <gnube> ekimus, Here is the condition: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Java
[03:05] <Frogzoo> KOC: gparted - maybe
[03:05] <gnube> ekimus, And here is the rule: RewriteRule  ^/$ /glossary.html  [L] 
[03:06] <ekimus> gnube: try  RewriteRule  ^/$ /glossary.html  [R,L]  (you are aware that ^/$ only matches if you request http://yourserver/ - and nothing else?)
[03:07] <KOC> PriceChild, I mean like open files
[03:07] <KOC> Not mess with partition tables
[03:07] <gnube> ekimus, Yeah, that is what I wanted, any user agent with ^Java should get redirected.
[03:07] <Grif3r> I have a problem
[03:07] <cwillu> livingdaylight: ahoy
[03:07] <cwillu> any luck?
[03:07] <KOC> Does the Ubuntu CD set up an automatic fstab or something maybe?
[03:08] <ekimus> gnube: you will only redirect any user agent with ^Java that requests ^/$
[03:08] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ^^ so printing works a charm in live cd
[03:08] <gnube> ekimus, Hmm. So if one requests ^/foo$ it does not get redirected.
[03:08] <gnube>  I see.
[03:08] <cwillu> livingdaylight: okay, you're not as crazy as I thought :)
[03:08] <gnube> I was not clear on that.
[03:08] <cwillu> (dpkg just finished btw :p)
[03:08] <Grif3r> If I configure Evolution to fetch my POP3 mail, then if I open Mail in iBook it won't fetch them too and vice versa. Both leave copy of mail in server.
[03:08] <livingdaylight> cwillu: oh, what a shame :p
[03:08] <gnube> ekimus, Thanks for the clarification.
[03:08] <Grif3r> any way around the problem?
[03:08] <Grif3r> I wan't to get same mail in both machines
[03:08] <cwillu> livingdaylight: did it detect it automatically?
[03:09] <ekimus> gnube: no $ says end here so you to redirect everything you would do ^(.*) /glossary.html
[03:09] <livingdaylight> cwillu: no, it never did that before and not in live cd either. I just go to admin/ printing set it up and did a test page
[03:09] <Frogzoo> Grif3r: imap will do this
[03:10] <KOC> Basically the goal is to open up pictures on the hard drive -- the system is being test driven now and the user test driving it isn't comfortable with any more than a couple linux commands
[03:10] <gnube> ekimus, Okay, I will edit my requesting script and watch the logs again . . .
[03:10] <Demonswarm> I have some problems w. an old computer any idea where i can get hardware help?
[03:10] <cwillu> livingdaylight: okay;  back to your regular system, I'm curious whether anything interesting shows up in /var/log/cups/error_log
[03:10] <Grif3r> Frogzoo: doesn't that mean, that I need to keep another computer always on as the server that fetches POP3 mails?
[03:10] <Grif3r> and I'd like to have physical copies
[03:11] <AMSmith42> Why would ubuntu-server install with my repositories set to "restricted" in sources.list?
[03:11] <livingdaylight> cwillu: then i better come out of live cd first
[03:11] <Grif3r> so if gmail for some reason suddenly eats all my emails I'd have them
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Grif3r: well it means you need an isp that supports imap - they must be out there somewhere
[03:11] <livingdaylight> cwillu: there is no advantage in being in the live cd now, is there?
[03:11] <Grif3r> I use gmail, afaik they only support pop3
[03:12] <gnube> Hmm. No go. I must have put the directives in the wrong place.
[03:12] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ok, so, i'll be back in a mo
[03:12] <Grif3r> Frogzoo, any other ideas?
[03:13] <KOC> Sorry, let me rephrase: I'm running the Ubuntu Live CD, what's the easiest way to access my Windows files?
[03:13] <Grif3r> difficult as my main computer is actually a laptop
[03:13] <Robinsjostrom> do you think i will slow down the ubuntu system if i install and boot it from this external drive? http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=221&language=en
[03:14] <cwillu> Grif3r: easiest way might be to just have gmail set to forward a copy to another free email account
[03:14] <cwillu> um, can somebody tell livingdaylight that I'll be right back when he comes back?
[03:14] <Balooo__> Hi! every one
[03:15] <Grif3r> cwillu: like my other gmail account? hmm.. if I'd make cross-forwarding from other gmail to other and vice versa it might actually work so I could get copies on both computers. :D
[03:15] <Zewey> Grif3r: any chance you could host your own imap mailserver though?
[03:16] <Grif3r> Zewey: no,
[03:16] <gnube> ekimus, No go. I think the syntax is alright, I just feel I have the rewrite rule in the wrong place.
[03:16] <Grif3r> Zewey: maybe after I sell this computer and build another, based on VIA's latest line of fanless motherboards
[03:17] <Grif3r> they're awesome
[03:17] <deep> Is XFCE using metacity?
[03:17] <Zewey> sounds expensive :P
[03:17] <simmerz> cwillu: got it working. the only thing I got rid of was an ms-dnf thing
[03:18] <predaeus> deep: nah, xfwm
[03:18] <deep> predaeus: okay, thanx ^^,
[03:18] <coltrane> hey PriceChild , I changed "vesa" to "sis" in the xorg.conf and now it works much faster! thanks a lot !
[03:18] <rusher> hello
[03:19] <Balooo__> I have problem with the backspace key and i don't know if it is my Mac OS X terminal app or que bash shell under ubuntu server 6.10. When i press it when i'm in nano, it erase the lettre on the right and not back. Idea someone ?
[03:19] <rusher> Is feisty ready to be used yeT?
[03:19] <Pici> !fiesty | rusher
[03:19] <ubotu> rusher: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:19] <just22> hi, whats the time there?
[03:20] <IdleOne> rusher, ready to be tested
[03:20] <Pici> IdleOne: Good answer
[03:20] <IdleOne> just22, over there it is 5:00pm . time to drink
[03:20] <pascutti> just22: here is 11:20 am, time to eat
[03:20] <just22> ahahah
[03:20] <just22> here it's 15.32 pm
[03:20] <IdleOne> Pici, ty I try
[03:21] <umop> How do I find what processes are using my sound card?
[03:21] <Grif3r> this looks great for everything: VIA EPIA-CN10000EG
[03:21] <Grif3r> fanless mini-itx
[03:21] <Grif3r> gotta love 'em
[03:23] <umop> How do I find what processes are using my sound card?
[03:25] <livingdaylight> cwillu: /var/log?
[03:27] <cwillu> livingdaylight: /var/log/cups/err...
[03:27] <cwillu> livingdaylight: brb
[03:28] <umop> I guess I will just reboot.
[03:28] <cwillu> livingdaylight: back and forth actually
[03:29] <joe4444> cwillu, i fixed it!
[03:29] <livingdaylight> cwillu: lots of error logs
[03:29] <cwillu> joe4444: sweeeeeeeeeet
[03:29] <joe4444> ...well, i found a good xorg.conf =)
[03:29] <cwillu> joe4444: direct rendering?
[03:29] <cwillu> lol
[03:29] <cwillu> joe4444: close enough :p
[03:30] <cwillu> livingdaylight: can you pastebin it?
[03:30] <joe4444> cwillu, LOTS of settings in this one... no clue which are responsible, but all i had to do was add my 1440x900 resolution as an option and it worked
[03:30] <cwillu> joe4444: swedish
[03:30] <cwillu> joe4444: fglrx still?
[03:30] <joe4444> yeah
[03:31] <cwillu> k
[03:31] <Zero9983> i already install pure-ftpd , how to configure it ?
[03:31] <cwillu> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:31] <joe4444> no direct rendering =/
[03:31] <cwillu> hmm :/
[03:31] <joe4444> but i can see the login screen =D
[03:31] <Zero9983> i already install pure-ftpd ftp server, how to configure it ?
[03:31] <cwillu> heh
[03:31] <eilker>  i have three kernels (after upgrades), do i have chance to uninstall 2 of 3 ? i wanne keep only the newest one
[03:32] <proXx> hi..is there any way to uninstall grub from the mbr without using fixmbr(winxp)..because this didn't work.. maybe by using a live ubuntu cd?
[03:32] <js_> elljay: just apt-get remove linux-image-version
[03:32] <cwillu> eilker: you can uninstall old ones via synaptic, I think there's also a purge kernel thingy somewhere;  keeping the last 1 or 2 around is generally a good idea though
[03:32] <erUSUL> eilker: you can do it sefely
[03:32] <livingdaylight> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9437/ there are a bunch of other .tar.gz errorlogs
[03:33] <aglet> is there a way to get a snapshot of CPU usage of a currently running process?  I'm thinking of awking top -b output, but it doesn't seem right
[03:33] <cwillu> livingdaylight: ya, don't worry about the tar'd
[03:33] <livingdaylight> cwillu: take tht back. not tar.gz
[03:33] <joe4444> cwillu, if you're curious: http://dpaste.com/6615/  -- everything from line 92 down i found on a Gentoo site
[03:33] <Demonswarm> anyone know a distro i can run from a floppy?
[03:33] <Zero9983> i already install pure-ftpd ftp server, how to configure it ?
[03:33] <joe4444> cwillu, let me know if you see anything i might be able to change/add for direct rendering
[03:33] <proXx> and the grub-reinstall method of the installing cd didn't work either
[03:33] <erUSUL> Demonswarm: coyote linux iirc
[03:34] <livingdaylight> cwillu: reads: error_log1.gz ; error_log2.gz etc
[03:34] <cwillu> livingdaylight: hmm, that might be useful:  "cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found"
[03:34] <jrib> aglet: ps -o something_i_cant_remember
[03:35] <eilker> cwillu>erUSUL : thanx
[03:35] <cwillu> joe4444: broken record:  does it do anything different if you set depth to 16?
[03:36] <joe4444> i'll give it a try...
[03:36] <aglet> jrib: NB not cumulative CPU time...
[03:36] <ben325e> I've got a printer issue... whenever I print from openoffice.org, everything is pretty much WYSIWYG, but when I print from swift/firefox, it is text only and BIG!   My temp workaround is to print to file, and then print that file, which looks great... any suggestions other than keeping my status quo?
[03:36] <proXx> has nobody an idea? :'(
[03:36] <Pici> aglet: Nice nickname.
[03:37] <jrib> aglet: what is NB?
[03:37] <yagooda> czesac jest ktos z polski ??
[03:37] <aglet> nota bene -- literally "note well"
[03:37] <joe4444> cwillu, no signal on either display
[03:37] <Marc> proXx: I've had the same issue with other dists, i don't dual boot anymore
[03:37] <Lunar_Lamp> proXx, the winxp method does work, you must have made a mistake :-/
[03:37] <joe4444> ...just like before, can't CAF1 to get back to console
[03:37] <yagooda> SZUKAM KOGOS Z POLSKI CO WYTLUMACZY MI COKOLWIEK ! ! ! !
[03:37] <jrib> aglet: you should be able to get the same info as in top
[03:37] <CheshireViking> !pl
[03:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:38] <aglet> jrib: no, top integrates over time to come up with the "current" %age usages
[03:38] <aglet> jrib: at least, that's what I think it does
[03:39] <jrib> aglet: well ps has this: cpu utilization of the process in "##.#" format. Currently, it is the CPU time used divided by the time
[03:39] <jrib> ... the process has been running
[03:39] <aglet> yeah, in other words, cumulative
[03:39] <rusher> will fiesty have better support for usb printers? my printer works on fedora but not ubuntu
[03:39] <proXx> Marc: i think i did everything right.. i bootet the windows cd an used the  recovery console to make fixmbr
[03:40] <aglet> jrib: I want to know say %age of time on CPU in last second
[03:40] <Marc> proXx: Have you made sure the correct partition is active?
[03:40] <ciccio> Hallo ich bin france
[03:41] <proXx> do you mean the right windows selected?
[03:41] <livingdaylight> cwillu: any suggestions?
[03:42] <Marc> What I mean is, i used to dual boot into a HDD installed Knoppix. I had grub installed to /boot, then to change which OS booted i would use the knoppix live cd to change the active partition with parted
[03:42] <proXx> Marc: or do you mean a setting of mbr
[03:42] <jrib> aglet: do you know of anything that /does/ give that info?  just curious
[03:43] <yagooda> witam! mam takie pytanie poniewaz uzywam ubuntu od wczoraj i nie wiem co sie dzieje chce cos zainstalowac co jest zapakowane! no i wszedzie jest napisane ze po rozpakowaniu trzeba wpisac ./configure nastepnie make i make install a jak wpisuje make to pisze ze nie ma tam czegos :/ i nie wiem wogole o co chodzi bo nic sie na tym nie znam :/
[03:43] <aglet> jrib: top
[03:43] <NET||abuse> hmm, i've installed mysql-server5.0 from debs,, i want to add --skip-name-resolve to the startup switches.. where do i put that? is there somehwere to put it in /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[03:44] <cwillu> livingdaylight: I'm googling it
[03:44] <jrib> aglet: you know what you could do... figure it out one second, and then another second later, then compute accordingly
[03:44] <bulmer> oh man oh man..this DST - daylight savings time is causing major headache for us tech support..
[03:44] <Overdose1> can someone give me a link to ubuntu Live cd?
[03:44] <proXx> Marc: but i want to remove it or at least reinstall or repair it in any way
[03:44] <aglet> jrib: I know, I was hoping to be able to avoid that, or at least to get the "snapshot" figueas in a less resource-intensive way (eg out of /proc)
[03:45] <aglet> jrib: it just seemed like something that someone would already have done...
[03:46] <merc> im going to make my own t-shirts.
[03:46] <merc> oops wrong chan
[03:46] <merc> :)
[03:47] <Marc> proXx: Have a look here http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/forum/windows-xp/3423-windows-xp-wont-boot-mbr-problem.html
[03:47] <Marc> proXx: The post from swoolgrove
[03:48] <Orfeous> hmm
[03:48] <bulmer> ben325e umm maybe you can write a script to directly just calls OO to print the output of your firefox print..besides if you look at firefox it does call lp to print
[03:50] <axeman> anyone want to help a newbie running a LiveCD try to connect to a wireless network?
[03:50] <rusher> System - Admin - Network
[03:50] <ben325e> thanx bulmer, now just gotta go learn to write a script..., which I need to learn anyway.  Just not sure how to do that, but I'll read up.   I didn't know if my problem was common or isolated.... thanks for the help
[03:51] <axeman> I can see the network, enter the WEP key - still no connect
[03:51] <proXx> Marc: fortunately there is an version for a bootable cd because i dont have a floppy..i will try this.. thanks a lot.. and even more
[03:51] <proXx> if it works ;)
[03:52] <daxxar> Hm
[03:52] <Marc> proXx: Good luck :)
[03:52] <daxxar> My gnome-power-manager tray icon seems to consistently stop updating to new information. I'm not certain, but I think it's only post-hibernation it does it.
[03:52] <ekimus> hmm any support channel for ubuntu-server installations?
[03:52] <ekimus> !server
[03:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[03:53] <donaldinho> Hi. I've got a question about users/groups. I seem to have broken my ubuntu install so that sudo no longer works
[03:53] <daxxar> (I.e. doesn't update when I remove / connect power-cable (says "Computer is running on AC power" no matter what), and remaining battery time never changes)
[03:54] <daxxar> Anyone know what could cause it and/or how to fix it?
[03:54] <jrib> donaldinho: is your user in the "admin" group?
[03:54] <ardchoille> What version of gnome is going to be in Feisty final?
[03:55] <pradeep> archangelpetro, 2.17
[03:55] <ardchoille> pradeep: Thanks
[03:55] <jorn> quit
[03:55] <donaldinho> no its not. that prob what it is
[03:55] <arn_> how can i stop my firefox? it just got stock
[03:55] <abunasser> Q = How to apply emerald themes Without Beryl ??????
[03:55] <arn_> i tried "kill mozilla"
[03:55] <Zewey> sudo killall firefox-bin
[03:56] <pradeep> arn_, killall firefox-bin
[03:56] <___shavenger___> dea-stras
[03:56] <donaldinho> jrib: i thought if you used usermod -Gothers roger it would not change your primary group but it would add you to additional groups
[03:57] <arn_> but it says "-bash: kill: jshohel
[03:57] <abunasser> Q = How to apply emerald themes Without  using Beryl ????? is that possible ??
[03:57] <arn_> ohh, ok
[03:57] <tdn> How do I disable the pcspeaker completely? I have tried sudo modprobe -r pcspkr, but it does not help. I am using headphones and it is really loud when the pc speaker beeps in them. I get a shock each time.
[03:57] <aglet> clip the wire & put a switch in?
[03:57] <jrib> donaldinho: nope, see  man usermod.  It removes you of groups not listed in your command.  It's easier to user 'adduser' imo
[03:58] <ben325e> abunasser: try #ubuntu-effects
[03:58] <donaldinho> jrib: right fair enough. cheers for that
[03:59] <aglet> tdn: alternatively set "bell-style" in your readline config
[03:59] <aglet> tdn: ie in ~/.inputrc "set bell-style visible"
[03:59] <tdn> aglet, I do *not* want any kind of beep right now. Not from the pcspeaker. Not from a sound file.
[04:00] <jrib> tdn: system > preferences > sounds
[04:02] <rambo3> why no just mute the speakers
[04:02] <bulmer> tdn: as one suggested remove the wires to it
[04:03] <tomek_> how to open *.bin file ?
[04:04] <finalbeta> tomek_: you don't, you run them
[04:04] <Grif3r> how to burn a image? .iso?
[04:04] <jrib> !iso | Grif3r
[04:04] <ubotu> Grif3r: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:04] <jrib> !burning | Grif3r
[04:04] <ubotu> Grif3r: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:04] <tomek_> yea, it's some sort of cd image
[04:04] <carlosqueso> tomek_ .bin is usually program...just go to the directory they're in and typ ./<name of .bin file>
[04:04] <tdn> bulmer, I can't. It's a laptop.
[04:04] <finalbeta> I wonder
[04:04] <finalbeta> !bin
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <tomek_> ok, I've chmod +x it and then run..
[04:04] <tomek_> no file to run
[04:05] <tomek_> it's cd image
[04:05] <Grif3r> thx
[04:05] <carlosqueso> tomek_then just burn it to a cd and see what it does
[04:06] <finalbeta> carlosqueso: no, it's like an ISO. you have to have a bruning program that supports bin
[04:06] <rusher> anyone run xen under ubuntu?
[04:06] <tomek_> I don't whant to burn it... ;)
[04:06] <Demonswarm> howto start an ubuntu LIVE CD when iam running a floppy?
[04:08] <ctothej> I need some recommendations as the more compatible mp3 player for use with linux. I am looking at the Creative Zen Vision:M, the iPod Video, and the Toshiba Gigabeat.
[04:09] <priich> tomek_, do you want to mount a .bin   (cd/dvd - image) ?
[04:09] <ctothej> I would like to use amarok or just drag and drop with it.
[04:09] <bulmer> Demonswarm: you can not, you have to get a cdrom player or dvd rom player
[04:09] <tomek_> priich: yes
[04:10] <rambo3> Creative= Windos terrorist , Ipod = Another windows flawor
[04:10] <VII> Hey, is it possible to make video show on my TV, but unless a video is playing the TV is black?
[04:10] <priich> tomek_,             sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/my/iso/file.bin /media/DVD
[04:10] <donaldinho> jrib: is there any way for me to make me a member of the admin group again without using a live cd to change the group file
[04:11] <ctothej> rambo3: what could I use then? toshiba touts working hand-in-hand with WMP10
[04:11] <Demonswarm> hallo howto start a CD from a live-floppy? iam running coyote and i wanne start a ubunt live cd
[04:11] <priich> tomek_, sorr aboyt that last one, it should be /media/ISO
[04:11] <carlosqueso> donaldinho, you should be able to boot into recovery mode
[04:11] <jrib> donaldinho: well if you have a root password set you can login as root.  Or if you have another user that can sudo, you can login is that user.  Otherwise, you need to either use a live cd or choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[04:11] <rambo3> man addgroup
[04:12] <tomek_> priich: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[04:12] <tomek_> some module needed?
[04:12] <rambo3> ctothej, no , i have zen (birthday present). And its screems WMP10 . Maby if you search forums
[04:12] <donaldinho> thanks. will try that
[04:12] <bulmer> oh man oh man..this DST - daylight savings time is causing major headache for us tech support..
[04:12] <sethk> tomek_, if it were a module, it would say that it doesn't recognize the -t xxx argument
[04:13] <ctothej> rambo3: do you use it with ubuntu though?
[04:13] <rambo3> no
[04:13] <carlosqueso> DST is generally evil
[04:13] <ctothej> damn
[04:13] <tomek_> ah, anyway it doesn't work ;)
[04:13] <paco> hi all
[04:14] <paco> i had a cgiirc question.  when i try to connect to a friend's site, i get a 'can't connect to server' error.
[04:15] <VII> hm, I have a hdd with mp3s on, its not my windows drive, how do I access it?
[04:15] <carlosqueso> VII, what filesystem
[04:15] <priich> tomek_, no  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/my/iso/file.bin /media/ISO                  is what i use.
[04:15] <VII> ntfs
[04:16] <priich> tomek_, however if someone was really clever, they made that .bin file with a non standard blocksize. do you have an accompanying .cue ?
[04:16] <tomek_> no
[04:16] <tomek_> I've downloaded it
[04:16] <tomek_> damn... must download nero
[04:16] <carlosqueso> VII, the easy (one time) way is to create a directory called /media/mp3s and then use sudo mount /dev/<your hdd> /media/mp3
[04:17] <VII> oh
[04:17] <flake> with wolf et, I can run et and hear the sound but there is also an annoying background buzz - but I don't hear it under kde multimedia - is there a fix for that?
[04:18] <paco> is anyone here familiar with cgiirc?
[04:18] <Grif3r> !iso
[04:18] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:18] <VII> carlosqueso: How can I find out what drive that is?
[04:19] <aos> hello
[04:19] <carlosqueso> VII sudo fdisk -l
[04:19] <priich> tomek_, well there are various utilities floating around you could try. I'm sure there are a couple on sourceforge or you could try googling for it. (first hit shows http://he.fi/bchunk/     )
[04:19] <carlosqueso> look for NTFS
[04:19] <VII> ok, thx, will try
[04:19] <aos> im looking something like guitar pro for ubuntu
[04:19] <tomek_> priich: ok, thanks for help
[04:20] <slavik> What does the following error mean? (gnome-panel:5888): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen1/screen' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x80c7760
[04:20] <Robinsjostrom> will i reduce "speed" if i install ubuntu on an external harddrive that has 7200rpm istead of installing it on a sata2 drive?
[04:21] <slavik> I think that the error causes my X session to restart all the time
[04:21] <mr_daniel> with firefox I am able to make a greyscale-print, but with evince or acroread it is not possible
[04:21] <mr_daniel> is there maybe a special option for 'lp' oder 'lpr' to make a greyscale print ?
[04:21] <carlosqueso> Robinsjostrom, people have had real problems trying to run ubuntu off external drives
[04:21] <Robinsjostrom> carlosqueso: oh =(
[04:22] <salam> projet de developpement rural
[04:23] <VII> bah, the file browser wont let me create folders..
[04:23] <carlosqueso> VII...that's the downside of using NTFS with linux...it's read-only
[04:23] <xyz-abc> hi everyone, how can I fix bad sectors?
[04:23] <carlosqueso> ntfs-3g supports writing though
[04:23] <carlosqueso> !ntfs-3g | VII
[04:23] <ubotu> VII: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:23] <flake> when I drag the desktop window around, Ihear a bunch of clicks with every mouse movement - how can I turn that off?
[04:24] <tomek_> ehh, those *.bin files are probabbly broken
[04:24] <aos> any1 know any linux application similiar to guitar pro?
[04:24] <priich> Robinsjostrom, yes you will definetly get a reduction in "speed" if running it off USB compared to SATA2.
[04:24] <VII> well, Im not interested in writing to my mp3-hdd right now, I just wanna access it. But I was told to make a new folder to mount the hhd into. I cant make that folder tho.
[04:25] <mr_daniel> aos: maybe here http://www.gnomefiles.org/ or http://kde-apps.org/
[04:25] <carlosqueso> VII, ah...that's cause you don't have permissions for /media.  just type sudo mkdir /media/mp3s (or whatever you want to call it) into a terminal
[04:25] <priich> aos, sorry can't say i do. Have you tried searching on freshmeat.net ?
[04:25] <VII> sweet, thx
[04:26] <`nicola> at the boot I get a lot of
[04:26] <`nicola> udevd[2249]  : add_to_rules : unknown key 'ATTRS{idVendor}
[04:27] <kenthomson> HELP; By using SwiftFox, am i using proprietary software or is it completely 'free' software? And would anyone advise me for/against it from personal experience or otherwise?
[04:28] <VII> how do I delete a folder?
[04:28] <cypher_> My Soundcard does not work, please reads this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9447/
[04:28] <carlosqueso> kenthompson...swiftfox is just firefox with some optimizations, it's free software
[04:28] <rambo3> !Iceweasel
[04:28] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[04:29] <kritzstapf> is there a kde-style that fits the "human"-style for gtk?
[04:29] <rambo3> !Iceweasel | kenthomson,
[04:29] <ubotu> kenthomson,: please see above
[04:29] <carlosqueso> VII, if it's empty, just use sudo rmdir <file name>  if it's not empty, then use sudo rm -R (but do this only if you want to get rid of everyting in it)
[04:29] <kenthomson> rambo3, is iceweasel different from swiftfox? I understand it is
[04:29] <OuZo_> can anybody help with LVM?
[04:29] <kenthomson> carlosqueso, is swiftfox GPL-ed?
[04:29] <Oritemis> Guys, how do I install the gnome system manager?
[04:30] <livingdaylight> cwillu: have you abandoned the cause? :D
[04:30] <rambo3> kenthomson,  its debians project on complitly open firefox.
[04:30] <PriceChild> VII, what folder are you trying to remove?
[04:30] <kenthomson> rambo3, i couldn't understand what you are hinting at
[04:30] <Oritemis> I don't see it into add/remove programs.
[04:30] <cypher_> My Soundcard does not work, please reads this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9447/
[04:30] <cypher_> I need support
[04:30] <rambo3> kenthomson, read wiki in link
[04:30] <priich> kenthomson, what you need is vrms. (virtual richard m stallman)       :)
[04:31] <carlosqueso> kenthompson...after looking at site...swiftfox NOT free....not sure that's leagal
[04:31] <kenthomson> priich, why a virtual one?
[04:31] <kenthomson> carlosqueso, i understand that swiftfox is NOT FREE SOFTWARE
[04:31] <VII> pricechild, a folder I just created
[04:31] <VII> if I mount a whole HDD into a folder, will it require as much space??
[04:31] <carlosqueso> yeah...I was wrong
[04:32] <kritzstapf> VII, it will require the space an empty directory requires..
[04:32] <kenthomson> !swiftfox
[04:32] <PriceChild> VII, No, editing stuff in that folder happens ont he mounted HDD
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <carlosqueso> VII....there isn't any space...it just attaches to the filesstem there...a bit different if you're working from windows
[04:32] <priich> kenthomson, it's a kind of joke app that analyses your installed packages and reports the ones from the non-free tree.
[04:32] <VII> okok
[04:33] <kenthomson> priich, really?
[04:33] <uproot> hey guys, is there any usb wireless devices that are compatible with ubuntu ?
[04:33] <Flaming> hi
[04:33] <rambo3> http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3634591
[04:34] <cypher_> My Soundcard does not work, please reads this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9447/ Please HELP
[04:34] <kenthomson> rambo3, for me?
[04:34] <aorthr33> Is there a way to put different desktop backgrounds on each desktop (e.g. like in KDE)?
[04:34] <c0rrosionX> Hey guys I connect to my Ubuntu machine by ssh, but when I'm using VI and i press Insert I don't see Insert on the bottom and when I use the arrow keys, it gives me letters like C, w, etc, it's the only ubuntu machine that ever did that to me...
[04:34] <VII> argh, sorry for troubling you carlsoqueso, I was just about to mount, but the lines u gave me disapeared here in the channel. too much written since.
[04:34] <Pici> c0rrosionX: Sounds like an issue with your ssh client.
[04:35] <c0rrosionX> it's putty but I can connect to other machines fine
[04:35] <carlosqueso> VII: sudo mount /dev/<drive name> /media/mp3s (or whatever you called it)
[04:35] <carlosqueso> if that works, I'll tell ya how to mount it permanently
[04:35] <kenthomson> c0rrosionX, try using "vim" to open the editor rather than "vi". maybe it should solve your problem
[04:35] <VII> sudo mount /devsdb1 /share
[04:35] <priich> kenthomson, really.   do            sudo apt-get install vrms                 and see for yourself. :)
[04:35] <c0rrosionX> yeah it did... strange
[04:35] <phrizer> I was running Dapper on a 800mhz athlon system with 256mb memory, and it was pretty zippy, not super fast but very usable. I've just got given a P4 2ghz machine with 256mb memory which i've installed 6.10 on. Memory access on the new machine is faster, hdd access is about the same maybe slightly faster on the new one, Yet this new machine is crawling on its knee's trying when it tries to do nearly anything.
[04:35] <VII> lol, that was stupid of me
[04:36] <carlosqueso> naw....command line takes getting used to
[04:36] <palatix> anyone get geforce 8800 gts running under feisty
[04:36] <Stormx2> carlosqueso: It does. 90% of the time there is a graphical alternative, but eventually you'll find command line quicker for some things
[04:36] <eNons3nse> can someone tell me how to make VLC my default media player instead of Totem.
[04:36] <rambo3> palatix, you know the channel
[04:37] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: Right click a file you want it to be default with > open with > VLC
[04:37] <carlosqueso> stormx2...I know....I'm able to do almost anything ssh-ed in from work
[04:37] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: It will become default
[04:37] <palatix> yes , i'm new here
[04:37] <Stormx2> carlosqueso: ah okay..
[04:37] <eNons3nse> Stormx2: That would change it for that file type or just that file?
[04:37] <rambo3> palatix,  #ubuntu+1
[04:37] <CheshireViking> !feisty > palatix
[04:37] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: File type
[04:38] <phrizer> Any ideas what would cause my "new" P4 2ghz machine to run at least twice as slow as my older 800mhz athlon?
[04:38] <VII> ok, I mounted it, got no reply from the terminal afterwards, but when I open the folder I mounted into I get a error message saying "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents."
[04:38] <Stormx2> !association
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about association - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <palatix> !feisty
[04:38] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:38] <Stormx2> !openwith
[04:38] <Askar> what can I use to make a short movie of my desktop? Like a screenshotmovie? :)
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwith - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Stormx2> Askar: gtkRecordDesktop
[04:38] <palatix> #ubuntu+1
[04:38] <Stormx2> Askar: No sorry. recordMyDesktop
[04:38] <Stormx2> Askar: Google it.
[04:38] <Askar> Stormx2: Can I get it with apt-get?
[04:38] <priich> phrizer, try a lighter windowmanager.     Maybe e17 or Ion.
[04:38] <rambo3> !instanbul
[04:38] <cypher_> My Soundcard does not work, please reads this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9447/ Please HELP
[04:39] <Stormx2> Askar: I don't *think* so
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about instanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <phrizer> priich, thats not the point.
[04:39] <VII> carlosqueso: actually, I see the filesystem is HPFS/NTFS if that matters
[04:39] <phrizer> priich. going from a athlon 800mhz machine to 2ghz machine shouldnt result in a 2 times speed decrease, should it?
[04:39] <phrizer> the only other difference is i upgraded to edgy from dapper.
[04:39] <carlosqueso> VII...that shouldn't....have you had trouble mounting it?
[04:40] <priich> phrizer, sorry. But the way you worded it, i got the impression that you installed a newer operating system as well. My bad.
[04:40] <rambo3> phrizer, can you do i clean install , or do you have anything important on HD?
[04:40] <taTe> Hello... i wan't to install Zsnes 1.51... i have Ubuntu 6.10, can anybody help me? I tried everything.. =/
[04:40] <VII> carlosqueso: no error while mounting it, just when trying to take a look in the folder
[04:40] <phrizer> rambo3, well it was a clean install about 2 days ago.
[04:40] <VII> the command I used was: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /share
[04:40] <carlosqueso> you won't have permissions...use sudo nautilus and you will
[04:41] <VII> carlosqueso: the command I used was: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /share
[04:41] <rambo3> phrizer, you upgraded from dapper . clean install as in no uppgrade
[04:41] <phrizer> priich, i did install a newer operating system, i installed edgy onto the newer machine, whereas the older one ran dapper. But surely that wouldnt have had THAT much of an effect?
[04:41] <vinboy> how do I resize ext4 partition? i mounted it with extends option
[04:41] <phrizer> rambo3, i did not update from dapper
[04:41] <phrizer> i did a clean install to edgy.
[04:41] <carlosqueso> VII that's fine...now use sudo nautilus and you'll be able to look around...then we can mount it permanently and give you permissions
[04:41] <Larsson-Sweden> I am using tv-out. It works fine with the video driver gl. If i use the driver XV i only get picture on my monitor, not my TV. How can i send the picture to my tv instead?
[04:41] <priich> phrizer, but if you use same OS/version then maybe it's getting throttled. I know on the last mobo i bought, it stupidly was throttled to like 30% of max as default in bios. Or you could be running into thermal throttling. Might be worth checking out.
[04:42] <eNons3nse> Stormx2: I right click and choose "Open With VLC" all the time.  It doesn't make it default.  It just opens it with VLC for that one time.
[04:42] <bulmer> VII you may want to try gksudo nautilus for graphicals
[04:42] <VII> carlosquesco: That worked!
[04:42] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: Try going to the "other application..." or similar and selecting VLC from there
[04:42] <Stormx2> !openwith#
[04:42] <carlosqueso> VII excellent...are you gonna want to mount it permanently?
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwith# - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <Stormx2> !openwith
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwith - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <stork> why the F$% does ubuntu server have ALSA daemon installed and running?!?!
[04:42] <Stormx2> !default
[04:42] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[04:43] <slavik> What does the following error mean? (gnome-panel:5888): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen1/screen' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x80c7760
[04:43] <Stormx2> Ah
[04:43] <Stormx2> Thats it!
[04:43] <litage_> i resized the partition on my Mac laptop down to 20gb, partitioned 80gb for GNU/Linux, and left 18gb at the end for a FAT32 partition. however, cfdisk says the last 18gb are "unusable". how can i create a FAT32 partition there?
[04:43] <taTe> Can anybody help me installing Zsnes 1.51 from Terminal? Thanks
[04:43] <VII> carlosqueso: yes please =)
[04:43] <Larsson-Sweden> I am using tv-out. It works fine with the video driver gl. If i use the driver XV i only get picture on my monitor, not my TV. How can i send the picture to my tv instead?
[04:43] <jrib> taTe: hi, how come you don't use the version in the repositories?
[04:43] <taTe> jrib: There is the 1.42, i want the 1.51
[04:43] <Stormx2> litage_: You'd need a logical partition..
[04:43] <priich> phrizer, also if since you switched motherboard, might be worthy checking out what mode your harddrives are running in. (use hdparm) If they are running in PIO mode or some stupid like that, it could starve the CPU.
[04:44] <taTe> jrib: and i want to learn how to compile a program for myself
[04:44] <c_lisp> hi whats a hdtv video card that works real good with ubuntu?
[04:44] <jrib> taTe: have you been linked to the guide on the wiki about compiling?
[04:44] <carlosqueso> okay...type sudo gedit /etc/fstab at a command prompt and add the following line (without quotes) "/dev/sdb1 /share ntfs umask=0222 0 0" at the end
[04:44] <Stormx2> taTe: Find the it's website, download, and read the "INSTALL" or "README" file
[04:44] <phrizer> priich, the harddrive likes to go crazy, I'm thinking it could be swapping too much. However my older machine surivived fine with 258mb of memory.
[04:44] <litage_> Stormx2: when i highlight the unused 18gb in cfdisk, i can't create a logical partition. the usual options like "Create", "Delete", "Type", etc aren't available
[04:44] <VII> ok
[04:44] <taTe> i did everything in the INSTALL, but it doesn't work
[04:44] <Stormx2> taTe: Before you try to do any compiling though, run this "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:44] <jrib> !compiling | taTe
[04:44] <ubotu> taTe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <Stormx2> taTe: Any errors?
[04:45] <eNons3nse> Stormx2: it still just uses VLC for that one time, then reverts back to Totem when i double click even the same file.
[04:45] <skroll> If doing an Ubuntu server install, after installing cupsys, and most of the drivers, what is required to get cups to be able to detect connected usb printers?  all my cupsd detects is 'beh'
[04:45] <Stormx2> litage_: Odd. Tried gparted / qparted / parted?
[04:45] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: Tried properties > open with?
[04:45] <litage_> Stormx2: not yet. should ``fdisk -l'' list the last 18gb as unused/free, or should it only list existing partitions?
[04:45] <konstantinos> hello. I try to install XGL but when I write "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl" I get " Couldn't find package xserver-xgl". What can I do?
[04:45] <phrizer> priich, dma.
[04:46] <rambo3> !info xserver-xgl
[04:46] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.0.git.20060725-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1548 kB, installed size 4124 kB
[04:46] <carlosqueso> VII, when you're done, close your file browser with the mp3s and unmount them by typing "sudo unmount /share" and then type "sudo mount -a" in the terminal
[04:46] <carlosqueso> then you should be good to go
[04:46] <VII> carlosqueso: I will still beable to reach it from windows right?
[04:46] <rambo3> !repos > konstantinos
[04:46] <Stormx2> litage_: No idea >.<
[04:46] <carlosqueso> yeah...you aren't making any changes to windows
[04:46] <taTe> i have build-essentials... and the "sh ./autogen.sh && gmake && gmake install" doesen't work... there is not "gmake"
[04:47] <Stormx2> taTe: Try just "make" ?
[04:47] <taTe> ./configure: line 3569: syntax error near unexpected token `1.2.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR'
[04:47] <taTe> ./configure: line 3569: `AM_PATH_SDL(1.2.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR(SDL >= 1.2.0 is required
[04:47] <erUSUL> taTe: gmake is the name of gnu make in non linux systems such us BSD or solaris
[04:48] <Stormx2> taTe: You using the SVN version or something?
[04:48] <erUSUL> taTe: in gnu systems is simply make
[04:48] <dv_> hi
[04:48] <dv_> anyone using feisty already?
[04:48] <jrib> dv_: plenty of people in #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <taTe> aahh good tip =D
[04:48] <CheshireViking> !feisty > dv
[04:48] <dv_> ah #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:48] <Stormx2> taTe: Usually with actual releases don't need to run autogen.sh
[04:48] <konstantinos> what should I write at the Repositories to get the XGL ?
[04:49] <erUSUL> !xgl > konstantinos
[04:49] <rambo3> configure maby
[04:49] <konstantinos> !xgl
[04:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:49] <taTe> ./configure: line 3569: `AM_PATH_SDL(1.2.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR(SDL >= 1.2.0 is required))'
[04:49] <erUSUL> MEOWN: please stop
[04:49] <Stormx2> taTe: You need to install the sdl dev package
[04:50] <erUSUL> MEOWN: or go to #flood
[04:50] <eNons3nse> Stormx2: that worked, thanks.
[04:50] <VII> carlosqueso, when I tried to unmount it said: "sudo: unmount: command not found"
[04:50] <taTe> ok, thanks
[04:50] <rambo3> umount
[04:50] <carlosqueso> VII, sorry umount not unmount
[04:50] <VII> kk
[04:50] <carlosqueso> sloppy typing today
[04:50] <rambo3> use tabb
[04:50] <boredandblogging> what is the command to check what kind of video card I have?
[04:51] <erUSUL> boredandblogging: lspci | grep VGA
[04:51] <Stormx2> taTe: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[04:51] <erfan> Hello
[04:51] <rusher> Question, if you just switched to Ubuntu from Fedora and realized your printer only worked in Fedora, what would you do?
[04:51] <thinkpad> lu
[04:51] <Stormx2> taTe: The general rule with compiling is when it says it needs a package (and the app is c/c++) it means you need the -dev package, which 90% of the time can be found in the repos
[04:51] <VII> carlosqueso: woho! works like a charm. next question, and hopefully the last...... :D How do I play mp3s?
[04:51] <thefish> hi folks
[04:51] <boredandblogging> erUSUL, thanks
[04:51] <erUSUL> !mp3 > VII
[04:52] <erUSUL> boredandblogging: no problem
[04:52] <thinkpad> qui est francais ?
[04:52] <thefish> im trying to connect a firewire ipdo to my laptop (7.04) but having no luck, i dont even know if the firewire port is working properly - i would guess if it was, i should have /proc/bus/ieee1394 is this correct?
[04:52] <taTe> Stormx2: All these packages begins with "lib*" ?
[04:52] <sdac221x_> hi,  is there a command to re-start the sound system in ubuntu ?  I haven't been able to find one.
[04:52] <carlosqueso> VII: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 can help...it's for dapper, but should work on edgy too
[04:52] <Stormx2> taTe: Not necessarily.
[04:52] <erUSUL> sdac221x_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ??
[04:52] <eilker>  i install superkaramba themes, it goes to /tmp/kde , so when i reboot , will i lose those themes ?
[04:53] <carlosqueso> to install those packages, just use sudo apt-get install <package name> in the terminal, it's alot faster than synaptic
[04:53] <taTe> carlosqueso:  and when i don't know the exact name of the package?
[04:53] <Stormx2> taTe: apt-cache search <name>
[04:54] <sdac221x_> erUSUL:  it did not seem to solve the problem.  If i mute the sound with the laptop  mute button, i have to restart the system in order to get sound back.  any idea what i can do ?
[04:54] <carlosqueso> taTe, you can use apt-cache search <something> or that's when synaptic comes in handy
[04:54] <kNo`> ouch, 1058 nicks! So... 1057 * hello
[04:54] <Stormx2> taTe: I tend to add "| grep <name>" to the end too...
[04:54] <erUSUL> sdac221x_: nope, sorry :(
[04:55] <taTe> Stormx2: nice, thanks
[04:55] <carlosqueso> stormx types too fast...makes me look bad
[04:55] <taTe> carlosqueso: thanks
[04:55] <carlosqueso> yw
[04:55] <sdac221x_> erUSUL:  ok thanks
[04:55] <erfan> salam
[04:55] <wolferine> Ubuntu is a strong desktop distro, but it falls short for some users in a few areas. Where are the multimedia codecs and DVD support <-- this true?
[04:55] <erUSUL> !mp3 > wolferine
[04:55] <erUSUL> !dvd > wolferine
[04:56] <dv_> wolferine, this is purely a rights issue
[04:56] <dv_> legal issue that is
[04:56] <erUSUL> wolferine: go and read some docs before doing such a claim ;P
[04:56] <wolferine> oh?
[04:56] <wolferine> im not making the claim
[04:56] <rambo3> xandros propaganda
[04:56] <dv_> well xandros bought the rights to distribute those codecs, so they have an unfair advantage
[04:56] <wolferine> maybe you need to be a bit more positive in your conversation skills erUSUL
[04:57] <wolferine> was surfing and found an article about it
[04:57] <Dr_willis> "Computers are a Strong Tool, but falls short for some users in a few areas"
[04:57] <Stormx2> carlosqueso: pwnt ;)
[04:57] <slavik> is it possible to get Direct Rendering with fglrx running in BigDesktop mode over 2 screens?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Then again.. when did we start Catering to lazy 'users' that dont want to learn anything. :)
[04:57] <wolferine> they are suggesting Linux Mint
[04:57] <erUSUL> wolferine: codecs and stuff can't be distributed without licenses... even MS was forced to pay thomsom for ilegally distributing mp3 codecs...
[04:57] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  i am using Linux Mint right now.. It dosent have much for it that ubuntu dosent.
[04:57] <imorenos> olaaaaaaa
[04:58] <imorenos> adiosssssssssssss
[04:58] <Dr_willis> other then some codecs and some other things pre-installed.
[04:58] <wolferine> well, VLC can work around the codec issues, can it not?
[04:58] <taTe> Stormx2: I have installed the package and the error comes again... ?
[04:58] <taTe> ./configure: line 3569: `AM_PATH_SDL(1.2.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR(SDL >= 1.2.0 is required))
[04:58] <nshang> 
[04:58] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  'perhaps' and not legally in some places.
[04:58] <wolferine> ah
[04:58] <Dr_willis> that 'legal' aspect is a big one.
[04:59] <wolferine> im noticing
[04:59] <Dr_willis> now ya know why the GPL stuff is so much nicer in ways.. not near as many 'legal' issues.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Until recently even the 'gif' image file format had legal issues.
[04:59] <Stormx2> taTe: What is this that you are compiling again?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> MS got fined to the tune of 1.5 BILLION$ over mp3 licensing 'legalities' :)
[04:59] <pa_hexa> j #montreuil
[05:00] <taTe> Stormx2: Zsnes... a snes rom emulator
[05:00] <Dr_willis> taTe,  what ya compiling it on?
[05:00] <pa_hexa> oups sorry
[05:00] <Stormx2> gif's a poor format anyway. Modern connections mean you might as well use PNG on thw web
[05:00] <wolferine> well, bill is still the richest in the world
[05:00] <dv_> Dr_willis, good thing is, it made people rethink that swpat issue
[05:00] <wolferine> he is worth 50+ billion
[05:00] <dv_> Stormx2, it has animations..
[05:00] <dv_> and no, mng isnt practical
[05:00] <Flaming> how can I make ubuntu execute an *.sh file automatically ?
[05:00] <Flaming> on system start
[05:00] <Stormx2> I've never had a need to make silly animations on websites.
[05:01] <dv_> Flaming, chmod +x file.sh
[05:01] <Dr_willis> the amiga .iff file format had animations years ago. :) i think.. egads.. im forgettting my amiga skills
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Flaming,  what does this .sh do?
[05:01] <rambo3> i had Zsnes on mythtv
[05:01] <Stormx2> Flaming: System > Preferences > Sessions
[05:01] <Flaming> Dr_willis, it will dial my internet connection
[05:01] <dv_> ah automatically
[05:01] <dv_> Dr_willis, yes iff rocked
[05:01] <Stormx2> dv_: Your point is still valid, tho.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Flaming,  you want to start on BOOT up? or when you log in to X.
[05:01] <Flaming> on Bootup
[05:01] <Flaming> because it requires root privileges
[05:01] <Stormx2> Thats like, init.rc stuff?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> put it in the /etc/rc.local script is one way
[05:02] <taTe> rambo3: zsnes where?
[05:02] <rambo3> on mythtv
[05:02] <Dr_willis> !find zsnes
[05:02] <ubotu> Found: zsnes
[05:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> !info zsnes
[05:02] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:02] <rambo3> and i think i installed it from repos of edgy
[05:02] <Dr_willis> zsnes does not work on the 64bit disrtos.
[05:02] <taTe> yes... but i'm trying to compile the version 1.51
[05:03] <Flaming> Dr_willis, like this:
[05:03] <Flaming> #!/bin/sh -e
[05:03] <Flaming> /usr/local/bin/inode-dialin xtest
[05:03] <Flaming> exit 0
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Flaming,  in rc.local befor the 'exit 0' line    /path/to/command.sh &
[05:04] <taTe> !find sdl
[05:04] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 55 others)
[05:04] <Flaming> Dr_willis, well it does not have an *.sh suffix
[05:04] <Dr_willis> flamesrock,  then dont use the .sh then. :)
[05:04] <ctothej> how can I add a cvs repository to apt's sources.list?
[05:04] <ctothej> i'd like it to update automatically
[05:04] <Flaming> Dr_willis, with a & at the end?
[05:04] <Flaming> of the line
[05:04] <Dr_willis> flamesrock,  the script does have to be 'executable' and you may want to use the &
[05:04] <Dr_willis> it depends on what the script is doing.
[05:04] <Flaming> Dr_willis, ok I try it out ... so I need to restart now
[05:05] <Flaming> Dr_willis, thank you very much!  see you soon
[05:05] <Dr_willis> you could just do  sudo /etc/rc.local
[05:05] <Dr_willis> NOTE in the rc.local comments.. you need tomake rc.local executable also
[05:05] <Dr_willis> # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits.
[05:06] <wolferine> any real benefit in going with the 64bit ubuntu over the 32?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  not for most people.
[05:06] <taTe> how can i see what version of package do i have?
[05:06] <wolferine> package --version
[05:06] <taTe> in console of course
[05:06] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  ive seen a dozen people in here this week that think the 64bit version is REQUIRED for amd64 cpus...    which is false. of course...
[05:07] <wolferine> yeah, I was thinking that when I first purchased my new MB
[05:07] <wolferine> then I fell into reality
[05:07] <wolferine> took a few hours :)
[05:08] <bewst> has anyone here set up NIS on edgy?  the installation process seems to stall while "binding to YP server"
[05:08] <Dr_willis> 64bit processing is still proberly a year or 2 away befor it becomes the 'standard' i guess...
[05:08] <wolferine> what is the best app so far, for sending music to my iPod?
[05:08] <wolferine> yeah, seems to be taking awhile, to get to the 64bit stage
[05:09] <saladin> receiving the error "no common cd-rom drive detected when installing edgy". At the moment all i have is bleak news about there being no fix for this bug. No problem booting knoppix live cd though ?
[05:09] <taTe> damn, why is so difficult to compile zsnes 1.51 >=/
[05:09] <iGama> Hy, a friend of mine has the Ubuntu 6.10, has Wireless and Ethernet. He is connected by ethernet, and the wireless (ipw2100) stats alone. he dows ifconfig eth1 down, and 5 minuts later, the wirelss connection goes up. Any ideias to stop the wireless from going up alone?
[05:09] <hartsantler> whats a simple command line to capture a single frame from my webcam?
[05:10] <carlosqueso> iGama, does he have network-manager or similar installed?  that could be bringing the wireless back up
[05:10] <COLA> how can I mount my windows hard drives?I am using ubuntu...any suggestions?
[05:11] <saladin> receiving the error "no common cd-rom drive detected when installing edgy". At the moment all i have is bleak news about there being no fix for this bug. No problem booting knoppix live cd though ? any ideas ?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !mount
[05:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:11] <iGama> carlesoriol he does
[05:11] <devilsadvocate> !pastebin
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:11] <iGama> but even so, it shows wired connected, but the wireless starts
[05:11] <COLA> thx :)
[05:11] <carlosqueso> strange
[05:12] <pantico> ciao
[05:12] <taTe> bye, thanks anyway... im going to #zsnes
[05:12] <pantico> join #linux-mi
[05:13] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[05:13] <SpaceBass> i'm thinking of migrating my SuSE 10.2 box to ubuntu 6.10 server, is there good reiserfs support in 6.10?
[05:13] <SpaceBass> I have a reiserfs software raid5 array that I need to support
[05:14] <saladin> anyone know where else i can go to rceive support for ubuntu. i have been trying to install edgy for a month now with no luck.
[05:14] <iGama> Hy, a friend of mine has the Ubuntu 6.10, has Wireless and Ethernet. He is connected by ethernet, and the wireless (ipw2100) stats alone. he dows ifconfig eth1 down, and 5 minuts later, the wirelss connection goes up. Any ideias to stop the wireless from going up alone?? any more ideias?
[05:14] <iGama> network manager is installed
[05:14] <iGama> Asus a6000v
[05:14] <SpaceBass> saladin, whats the problem?
[05:14] <VII> Im having trouble with my speakers. In windows I can hear sound from my speaker AND headphones at the same time, but in ubuntu I only hear it in the speakers.
[05:14] <a7p> SpaceBass: try a liveCD ... raiserFS is a kernel thing ... I do not think ubuntu removed raiser-support from the kernel ..
[05:14] <VII> *only hear it i nthe headphones
[05:14] <saladin> spacebass: receiving the error "no common cd-rom drive detected when installing edgy". At the moment all i have is bleak news about there being no fix for this bug. No problem booting knoppix live cd though ? any ideas ?
[05:14] <SpaceBass> a7p, thanks
[05:15] <a7p> VII: open the mixer ...
[05:15] <waylandbill> I have some packages I want to keep at a certain version. Is there a way to prevent apt-get upgrade from changing them for newer versions?
[05:15] <a7p> VII and check the settings.
[05:15] <SpaceBass> saladin, not with out knowing more...what is unique about the CD/DVD drive? is it IDE? controller on the mobo? etc?
[05:15] <VII> a7p: what mixer?
[05:15] <banutito> Hello
[05:15] <SpaceBass> a7p, im not a fan of file system engeneers that kill their wife, but nevertheless I started with reiserfs and its too late to change now :)
[05:16] <saladin> space: intel 965 motherboard (core duo) ,2 cdrom/dvd drives - both IDE
[05:16] <kazim59> I've a pdf (51MB).... does not allow me to print it
[05:16] <ironfroggy> i installed postfix. shouldnt i have a mail command?
[05:17] <SpaceBass> saladin, just to get it booting, try removing one of the drives...just keep the one that is the primary on that channel
[05:17] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: install mailx iirc
[05:17] <saladin> spacebass: done that already, even swopped drives around .
[05:18] <kazim59> it is protected somehow (the PDF)... and I can't print it... is there any workaround? niether evince nor acrobat reader allow
[05:18] <banutito> I have a bug the system crash after few minutes or seconds in any aplication that use opengl. system (AMD Sempron 2600+, Ati Radeon 9600 Pro, Via chipset)
[05:18] <banutito> Any sugestion
[05:18] <SpaceBass> saladin, hummmm has anyone offered advice about what the bug might be?
[05:18] <aorthr33> I've think just killed my Ubuntu install - I locked my screen on my laptop while it was installing updates/upgrades, and when I unlocked the screen, my upper and lower panels where gone - I immediately got a balloon window that told me I needed to restart (shocked me), but when I restarted, the system won't boot.... I get an initfs prompt
[05:19] <aorthr33> only
[05:19] <aorthr33> anyone got any ideas, or even starting points?
[05:19] <kazim59> banutito: run the 'free' command to confirm that your swap is being used
[05:20] <erUSUL> aorthr33: initfs prompt ?
[05:20] <banutito> kazim59 hm.. is not used
[05:20] <aorthr33> I having to go from memory, but yes....    in parenthesis    (initfs)
[05:20] <kazim59> aorthr33: well locking has nothing to do with updates... some update broke ur system
[05:20] <VII> Anyone know what audiomixer a7p might have been talking about??
[05:20] <banutito> how can I enable swap?
[05:20] <ironfroggy> ok im trying to test postfix locally and i see it all in the logs. i see a pickup, cleanup, qmgr, local, and then a removed message. is that the normal logs id see?
[05:21] <a7p> SpaceBass: I think you should not connect private business and filesystems ... raiserFS was good technologie a few month agao
[05:21] <ironfroggy> i get no errors, but i never see it in my queue.
[05:21] <COLA> what can I do if I want root rights for my normal user,  in ubuntu?(but not in a root shell)
[05:21] <saladin> i found out there is a bug on launchpad (id 57502 ),but this is resolved via a patch
[05:21] <a7p> VII: any mixer that controlls the ALSA-Settings.
[05:21] <kazim59> banutito: does the output of free tell you total swap, free and used... all details?
[05:21] <SpaceBass> a7p, very true...I was making an off color joke, probably not the best one to make either
[05:22] <banutito> kazim59: Swap:      1566328          0    1566328
[05:22] <mcp_> Hello, has there recently been an update that could have broken my printer?
[05:22] <erUSUL> aorthr33: have you tried to boot from a livecd?
[05:22] <SpaceBass> mcp_, i think the new version of cups is out
[05:22] <ironfroggy> how do i read my mail from /var/mail/{username}?
[05:22] <a7p> SpaceBass: well ... I like bad "evil" jokes ...
[05:22] <SpaceBass> :)
[05:23] <kazim59> banutito: it is there... swap is not ur problem then
[05:23] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: with mutt or any other mail client
[05:23] <lynucs> how is it possible to specify from which repo to install ffmpeg, faac and faad... i have installed it from ubuntu edgy repo, but now want to install it from medibuntu edgy, because the ubuntu package is broken
[05:23] <aorthr33> erUSUL, I had just finished an isntall from a liveCD, and rebooted from the HD.  I was doing updates when all this happened.
[05:23] <COLA> No idea? what I could do when I wanting , that my normal user have root rights :(?
[05:23] <mcp_> is there a log, where the installed updates are logged? So i can revert the update?
[05:23] <aorthr33> but I haven't tried to boot froma live CD since the crash
[05:23] <Askar> Where can I find accelerated graphic drivers for intelcards?
[05:23] <sgparker> ironfroggy: "mail" from the CLI
[05:23] <kazim59> any idea on how to print a PDF which i m being restricted by not allowing to print?
[05:23] <PriceChild> lynucs, add the medibuntu repo... if the version is higher there then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will isntall the higher version
[05:23] <whatspy> how to: "duplicate all the directory tree of dir1 into dir2, only for files with a specific extension" ?
[05:24] <PriceChild> Askar, Yuo should have it by default... "glxinfo | grep direct" should say yes
[05:24] <thefish> ironfroggy: mutt is nice for that
[05:24] <whatspy> it's a python project directory and I need a fresh copy with only the ".py" files, not the .pyc or .pyo
[05:24] <kbd> mm
[05:24] <kbd> beer is so good
[05:24] <a7p> VII: that might be the gnome-audiomixer as well as the alsamixer on the commandline.
[05:25] <Askar> PriceChild: direct rendering: Yes
[05:25] <erUSUL> aorthr33: maybe you can just boot from the livecd and do a chrrot to the install and do a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' ?? althught if you just have installed maybe a reinstall is the better option
[05:25] <PriceChild> Askar, You're good to go
[05:25] <sgparker> whatspy: find . -name "*.py" will find the .py files (with directory tree). You could then chuck that list at cp...
[05:25] <stork> !raid
[05:25] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:25] <Askar> PriceChild: but... cedega tells me I dont have
[05:25] <Askar> :S
[05:25] <aorthr33> erUSUL:  I was hoping to avoid a re-install
[05:26] <PriceChild> Askar, contact transgaming for support.
[05:26] <sgparker> for file in `find . -name "*.py"  -print`; do; cp $file ../backupfiles/; done
[05:26] <PriceChild> Askar, most games will require a decent nvidia/ati card.
[05:26] <kazim59> !pdf
[05:26] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[05:26] <Askar> PriceChild: most native games too?
[05:26] <VII> a7p: thank you! solved it!
[05:26] <erUSUL> aorthr33: then try the chroot but if you are new to linux/unix it is better to reinstall imho
[05:27] <pantico> nessuno di voi ha un macbook pro?
[05:27] <PriceChild> Askar, depends :)
[05:27] <Askar> PriceChild: on what? :O
[05:27] <PriceChild> Askar, the game
[05:27] <a7p> VII: no problem
[05:27] <Pici> !es | pantico
[05:27] <ubotu> pantico: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:27] <Askar> PriceChild: oh.. but games that require 3d acceleration... It might work for me?
[05:27] <juice`> how to run nautilius with root privilages?
[05:27] <erUSUL> Pici: italian i think
[05:27] <pantico> I'm not talking in espanol
[05:28] <pantico> but in italian
[05:28] <erUSUL> !it > pantico
[05:28] <pantico> I'm sorry
[05:28] <PriceChild> juice`, not recommended: gksudo nautilus
[05:28] <pantico> any one of you have macbook pro?
[05:28] <PriceChild> !anyone | pantico
[05:28] <ubotu> pantico: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:28] <Askar> PriceChild: Or isnt that the same thing?
[05:28] <juice`> PriceChild: then what would be best way to manage root files?
[05:28] <pantico> I have some problem with suspend
[05:28] <PriceChild> juice`, be VERY Careful with a root nautilus window... don't forget what you're using and close it as soon as you're finished
[05:29] <stork> how do i install mdraid on ubuntu???
[05:29] <PriceChild> juice`, I'd say terminal... but up to you, just be careful :)
[05:29] <pantico> it works only with a new kernel compile by me 2.6.20
[05:29] <PriceChild> Askar, They might work, as i say, it depends
[05:29] <aorthr33> erUSUL:  what will the chroot accomplish  -  I'm not totally new to linux, but I'm not an expert, either
[05:29] <pantico> but if I enable the xgl
[05:29] <stork> where do i get mdraid from??
[05:29] <pantico> the lcd doesn't waykup
[05:29] <juice`> PriceChild: i know, but i'm trying to explain it to somebody with as much simplicity as it is possible
[05:30] <kazim59> hey... what does it need to answer support questions here?
[05:30] <juice`> PriceChild: the reason to do this, is to install java in firefox
[05:30] <priich> mcp_, /var/log/dpkg.*              but there could be other logs of interest in /var/log/
[05:30] <VII> hm, is there anyway to open zip-files?
[05:30] <PriceChild> juice`, You don't need to manage files in root then?
[05:30] <juice`> PriceChild: ubuntu doesnt have it as package (i guess it can't)
[05:30] <PriceChild> !sun-java5-plugin | juice`
[05:30] <ubotu> juice`: sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:30] <PriceChild> kazim59, Just ask and hope somebody can help :)
[05:30] <carlosqueso> VII, file-roller will do it...you should be able to just double-click on them
[05:30] <juice`> does it work with firefox?
[05:30] <juice`> without configuring?
[05:30] <VII> cool
[05:30] <jakoblaursen> Hi
[05:31] <PriceChild> juice`, should do afaik
[05:31] <jakoblaursen> Anyone from Denmark?
[05:31] <juice`> it's dapper
[05:31] <PriceChild> juice`, should do :)
[05:31] <juice`> hmmmm... i will try it right away then
[05:31] <carlosqueso> nope, but if you want danish help !de | jakoblaursen
[05:31] <erUSUL> aorthr33: boot from a livecd and mount the root partition of ubuntu in /mnt/ the do a 'chroot /mnt/' from there the comands you use will be affecting the hd ubuntu install. hopefully an apt-get update or upgrade can sort things out you can also try dpkg --configure -a ....
[05:31] <lynucs> PriceChild, i added the medibuntu repo and reinstalled ffmpeg, but the version is still ***ubuntu and not medi
[05:32] <PriceChild> lynucs, what package is it?
[05:32] <pantico> I have installed 6.10 ubuntu on my macbook pro in tree bot ubuntu, osx, winxp
[05:32] <carlosqueso> !dk | jakoblarsen
[05:32] <ubotu> jakoblarsen: For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[05:32] <carlosqueso> sorry
[05:32] <PriceChild> lynucs, type apt-cache madison <<package name>> and pastebin it for me :)
[05:33] <lynucs> PriceChild, its 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1
[05:33] <asabil> hello
[05:33] <PriceChild> lynucs, the package name, not the version
[05:33] <PriceChild> !hi | asabil
[05:33] <ubotu> asabil: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:34] <asabil> anyone used to make-kpkg ?
[05:34] <carlosqueso> asabill, what ya need with it
[05:34] <Crazytom> hello all, My ubuntu boot-up takes like 5 minutes, is that normal?
[05:34] <lynucs> PriceChild, it ffmpeg
[05:34] <ijimenez> ola
[05:34] <mcp_> hmmm, no cups update in todays log, everything else also doesnt look printer related to me. What else could have broken my printer?
[05:34] <LjL> !es | ijimenez
[05:34] <ubotu> ijimenez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:34] <PriceChild> lynucs, pastebin "apt-cache madison ffmpeg"
[05:34] <lflores> olaaa
[05:34] <LjL> !es | lflores
[05:34] <ubotu> lflores: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:35] <lynucs> PriceChild, madison is unrecognized operation
[05:35] <lynucs> oh
[05:35] <lynucs> wat a sec
[05:35] <lynucs> lol
[05:36] <pantico> so no macbook pro here :(
[05:36] <mcp_> Crazytom, depends on your hardware.
[05:36] <Crazytom> i can boot xp in about 30 seconds
[05:36] <lynucs> PriceChild, http://www.pastebin.ca/387745
[05:37] <ParaPlayer> hello again... i have some trouble with the installation of beryl. i got a nvidia geforce 3, so i have chosen the AIGLX installation. but there is written: " nVidia cards require the non-free drivers to be installed, as the default "nv" driver does not support acceleration." what am i meant to do?
[05:37] <mr_daniel> a question to ALL of you: you have a color-printer and a pdf with pictures and text in color. How you would manage it to print the pdf in grayscale?
[05:37] <Crazytom> 2.66 ghz pentium 4 with 512 mg ram 64 mg video card
[05:37] <PriceChild> lynucs, that shows that either...
[05:37] <PriceChild> lynucs, (1) You have not "sudo apt-get update"'d before running the command
[05:37] <mr_daniel> I have tried it wiht evince and acroread, but I was not able to find a 'grayscale-option'
[05:37] <PriceChild> lynucs, (2) There is no version of ffmpeg in that repository
[05:37] <mcp_> Crazytom, than ubuntu should take 2 min. maximum. its a bit slower than XP, but not that much usualy. --> So thats not normal
[05:37] <asabil> carlesoriol, http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Debian_Etch_Compile_RTAI
[05:37] <kitche> ParaPlayer: install nvidia-glx driver
[05:37] <carlosqueso> Crazytom...I've got a much worse computer and it doesnt' take nearly that long, is it hanging somewhere
[05:38] <lynucs> hmm..
[05:38] <asabil> could you check the last file : debian/rules
[05:38] <Crazytom> i don't know how to turn on interactive booting.  it just say's starting up
[05:38] <lynucs> i'm sure i ran apt-get update
[05:38] <ParaPlayer> kitche: can you give me a command to do this?
[05:38] <PriceChild> lynucs, what's the url of the repo?
[05:38] <carlosqueso> asabi, for what?
[05:38] <asabil> I get an error about an undefined kdist_image
[05:39] <mcp_> Crazytom, you are not booting the Live-CD, are you? (just to make sure)
[05:39] <carlosqueso> sorry...that's  WAY over my head...I just use make-kpkg, I don't change things in it
[05:39] <Crazytom> no
[05:39] <kitche> ParaPlayer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, you might have to reconfigure xorg after wards forgot if it does it by itself or not
[05:39] <asabil> okidoki :(
[05:39] <ParaPlayer> thx
[05:40] <lynucs> PriceChild, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/edgy.list
[05:40] <stork> root@tycho:/media# mkraid
[05:40] <stork> bash: mkraid: command not found
[05:40] <stork>  <-- someone help me please!! where do i get the mkraid command?!?!?!
[05:40] <lynucs> or maybe i should just search for a deb package of ffmpeg :D
[05:41] <PriceChild> lynucs, there is no ffmpeg in their repository
[05:41] <lynucs> how did you see?
[05:41] <lynucs> just interesting
[05:41] <PriceChild> lynucs, there's no package in http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/edgy/
[05:42] <stork> help :((
[05:42] <lynucs> PriceChild, ok thank you a lot
[05:42] <kazim59> PriceChild: i wanted to know if the people providing support in this room are just users like us or are they hired.... ?
[05:42] <PriceChild> kazim59, We're all volunteers :)
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> we are volunteers
[05:43] <Xenguy> kazim59: a labour of love :-)
[05:43] <PriceChild> kazim59, feel free to help others if you know the answer.
[05:43] <jakoblaursen_> Hi. Can anyone help me set up wireless network? I'm a newbee
[05:43] <PriceChild> kazim59, commercial support can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[05:43] <erstazi> a labour of love... that sounds freaky.
[05:43] <kbd> kazim59: I pay them with my presence.
[05:43] <carlosqueso> jakoblaursen_, what's the problem?
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> jakoblaursen, whats your chipset?
[05:44] <kazim59> PriceChild: i can see the spirit.... but do u have some commitments to spend some hours daily...
[05:44] <carlosqueso> and where in denmark?
[05:44] <kbd> erstazi: Surely you jest sex workers cannot use Ubuntu?
[05:44] <Xenguy> erstazi: yeah, now that you mention it -- 'expressions' can be
[05:44] <jakoblaursen_> My chipset?
[05:44] <PriceChild> !ohmy | kbd
[05:44] <ubotu> kbd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:44] <erstazi> eck, no response, kbd
[05:44] <kbd> Did I say workers?
[05:44] <apokryphos> !offtopic
[05:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:44] <kazim59> family friendly... that was great!
[05:45] <jakoblaursen_> Chipset of the wlan-card?
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> jako, yes, that type of wireless do you have? atheros? ralink?
[05:45] <kbd> Yes, here comes little Johnny and Sister Mary to ask how to clear dead locks...
[05:45] <whatspy> sgparker: thank you for the script, do you know how to preserve the relative paths ?
[05:45] <jakoblaursen_> ralink
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> oh... you are in luck....I think those have native support
[05:46] <erUSUL> !wifi > jakoblaursen_
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> so whats your problem? can you see any acces points?
[05:46] <whatspy> preserve relative paths with this --> for file in `find . -name "*.py"  -print`; do cp $file ../backupfiles/; done
[05:47] <jakoblaursen_> As I told I'm a newbee and don't know where to look.
[05:47] <erstazi> has anyone ever had the privilege of installing imagemagick with magickwand?
[05:47] <pantico> no one of you have problem whit glx in suspend mode? ATI driver?
[05:47] <whatspy> I don't quite get it, the "find" alone prints the directories as well
[05:47] <san_> .
[05:47] <PriceChild> pantico, fglrx?
[05:47] <san_> .
[05:47] <kbd> jakoblaursen_: ok, welcome to wireless tools, man iwlist
[05:47] <pantico> yes
[05:47] <pantico> PriceChild: yes
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> panitco: ati with fglrx working here with suspend
[05:48] <erUSUL> jakoblaursen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[05:48] <pantico> not in the macbookpro the screen began blak
[05:48] <pantico> at wakeup
[05:48] <Slave_labor> I set up dual monitors with my NVIDIA card but on one of my screens when i maximize its slightly off that monitor, not maximizing to the monitor?
[05:48] <PriceChild> pantico, Afaik you cannot resume when you have odd binary drivers... Because of the closed source source'dness, Its very hard to reinitialise hte cards on resume.
[05:49] <kbd> jakoblaursen_: another way to look at access points is by using gtkwifi or wifi radar
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> PriceChild, pantico: its hit or miss
[05:49] <stork> oh this is a joke
[05:49] <stork> why do i have no 'mkraid' command?????
[05:49] <pantico> ..it resume but the screen it is blak
[05:50] <kbd> jakoblaursen_: http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/ gtkwifi.sourceforge.net/
[05:50] <jakoblaursen_> Ok... I'll try looking into the documentation. For now: tnx
[05:50] <pantico> I'm tryng to unload fglx
[05:50] <PriceChild> pantico, once with fglrx, its reasonably hard to switch back to ati/radeon
[05:50] <Snelhest> are there guide for installing ubuntu from a usb-flashdrive
[05:50] <kbd> PriceChild: why?
[05:50] <Jowi> !find mkraid
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file mkraid does not exist in edgy
[05:51] <PriceChild> kbd, it replaces some mesa libraries or something... I'm not sure on the specifics
[05:51] <eilker> *after upgrading from dapper to edgy ,kubuntu started displaying text messeages very  SMALL  during startup and shutdown. any help pls ?
[05:51] <pantico> PriceChild: the problem is that I'm not able to have aiglx
[05:51] <pantico> to work
[05:51] <kbd> PriceChild: but if you uninstall mesa...
[05:51] <pantico> if aiglx it works I may not use ATI driver
[05:51] <PriceChild> kbd, oh its possible and easy "if you know how" :)
[05:51] <vverheijen> Does anyone know a forum or something about Audio recording/ electronic music making on linux?
[05:51] <Jowi> !raid | stoffepojken
[05:51] <ubotu> stoffepojken: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:51] <pantico> and suspend will work again
[05:52] <kbd> pantico: aiglx does not work with fglrx
[05:52] <Jowi> !raid | stork (see above
[05:52] <ubotu> stork (see above: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:52] <stork> seen it Jowi
[05:52] <Jowi> sorry stoffepojken typo
[05:52] <stork> it doesn't help
[05:52] <pantico> I know
[05:52] <pantico> aiglx is in xorg
[05:52] <kbd> pantico: If you feel brave why don't you try the very latest driver?
[05:52] <pantico> but it use the 3d no?
[05:52] <aorthr33> erUSUL:  I was able to boot from the DVD, and chroot to the previous install.  I was also able to re-add the repositories I had manually input, but when I tried to sudo apt-get update, I get the following message:
[05:52] <aorthr33> 20% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to security.ubFATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor
[05:52] <aorthr33> Ign http://flomertens.keo.in edgy Release.gpg
[05:52] <aorthr33> E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
[05:53] <aorthr33> any ideas?
[05:53] <acoward> what happens to 3rd party repos during a dist upgrade?
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> pantico: yes 3d uses fglrx
[05:53] <kbd> pantico: hm? it does Xgl
[05:53] <jrib> acoward: nothing
[05:53] <kbd> acoward: they get commented or removed
[05:53] <jrib> heh
[05:53] <pantico> nosrednaekim: ok, the problem is that I have suspedn work if I not use the 3d
[05:53] <kbd> jrib: you sure? I'm pretty sure Edgy commented out my 3rd party stuff
[05:53] <priich> whatspy, you better use -print0    when using find or whitespaces can seriously come back and bite ya.
[05:53] <etank> does anyone know if there is an enterprise version of upgrade-manager?
[05:54] <x572b> Hi guys and gals - hopefully this is an easy question but I can't find the answer.  Where is the process of gksu logged in real-time?  I want to tail the log file to monitor an upgrade process that is happening in another room.  But, I can't find a file in /var/log that appears to be getting updated.  Any ideas?
[05:54] <etank> or something like WSUS in the windows world for Ubuntu
[05:54] <kbd> pantico: what version of the driver now?
[05:54] <erUSUL> aorthr33: no sorry... what are this third party repositories for? i will try first to recover only with ubuntu official ones
[05:54] <jrib> kbd: did you use update-manager?  I was just assuming he meant apt-get dist-upgade
[05:54] <whatspy> priich: thx for the advice. I'm almost there!!!
[05:54] <acoward> i mean the update-manager
[05:54] <kbd> jrib: hehe yeah
[05:54] <PriceChild> x572b, cat /var/log/auth.log
[05:54] <kbd> update-manager after a gedit find-replace
[05:54] <jrib> acoward: then listen to kbd :)
[05:54] <pantico> 8.34
[05:55] <aorthr33> erUSUL  : thanks
[05:55] <etank> so that you can approve / push / verify updates to remote workstations
[05:55] <acoward> lol, thanks
[05:55] <kbd> acoward: ofcourse it is easy to uncomment them again
[05:55] <PriceChild> x572b, if you don't trust other users to use sudo properly, then don't give them it. You can restrict their usage of sudo using visudo
[05:55] <etank> and then the users of the remote machines would not need to have sudo rights
[05:55] <pantico> _8.34.8-1
[05:55] <Jowi> stork, is mdadm what you're looking for?
[05:56] <pantico> kbd: _8.34.8-1
[05:56] <etank> this would be more for domain usage
[05:56] <pantico> the last I think
[05:56] <kbd> pantico: I think I'm on a 8.33.* something
[05:56] <x572b> PriceChild -- thanks for responding.  I am doing the update myself.  I just wanted to make sure the update is continuing to download files, etc without having to go to the other floor.  So, not really concerned with who is updating, just wanted to monitor the progress.
[05:56] <stork> Jowi, mdraid is what i want
[05:56] <kbd> suspend doesn't seem to work always
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> pantico, i'm on 8.32
[05:56] <PriceChild> x572b, You should use screen and ssh in :)
[05:56] <PriceChild> !screen | x572b
[05:56] <ubotu> x572b: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:56] <pantico> kbd:  but you have suspend work ??
[05:56] <Jowi> !info mdadm
[05:56] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[05:57] <pantico> with 3d?
[05:57] <cypher_> My Soundcard does not work, please reads this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9447/ Please HELP
[05:57] <kbd> pantico: yeah, pretty much
[05:57] <cypher_> cypher@HaeckFlaisch:~$ gnome-sound-properties
[05:57] <cypher_> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card 'Intel'
[05:57] <PriceChild> x572b, It allows you to "resume" sessions in progress from anywhere :)
[05:57] <pantico> kbd: :(
[05:57] <mariano> join #python
[05:57] <mariano> ups :D
[05:57] <kbd> pantico: around 8.28.* things were not so bad
[05:57] <Bagoor> Is there Ubuntu Package of xvidcap ?
[05:57] <pantico> why ? in google I sow many people have problem whit it
[05:57] <Bagoor> !xvidcap
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <PriceChild> x572b, So you could start a screen session on one machine, start the update, then go to another machine... ssh into the first and connect to the screen session and see where its up to
[05:57] <Bagoor> !gvidcap
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <pantico> I have suspend work only without fglx
[05:58] <x572b> PriceChild -- cool!  I am going to check that out!  Thanks for the information.
[05:58] <PriceChild> Bagoor, There isn't no sorry. I tried to package one for feisty but with one thing and another.. didn't make it :)
[05:58] <PriceChild> Bagoor, have you tried "recordmydesktop" or "Istanbul"? There's howtos on the forums
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> pantico, go check out www.tuxmobil.com for information on linux onmacbooks
[05:58] <cypher_> cypher@HaeckFlaisch:~$ gnome-sound-properties
[05:58] <cypher_> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card 'Intel'
[05:58] <cypher_> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[05:58] <pantico> kbd: it works but the lcd it is compleatly blak
[05:58] <pantico> and it doesn't wakeup :(
[05:58] <Bagoor> PriceChild, those are like xvidcap ?
[05:58] <kbd> pantico: which chipset is the video?
[05:58] <pantico> nosrednaekim: intel duo?
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> Pantico: that is a known problem
[05:59] <pantico> ATI X1600
[05:59] <PriceChild> Bagoor, yeah, my personal favourite is recordmydesktop :) Does exactly what it says on the tin. Although Istanbul beats them all for recording beryl :)
[05:59] <kbd> pantico: ah, you're SOL for a while
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> Pantico: not sure what you are asking but I have turion X2, b
[05:59] <pantico> meaning of SOL?
[05:59] <kbd> I have a 200M in this laptop and it is only now getting moderate support from fglrx
[06:00] <kbd> s*it out (of) luck
[06:00] <Bagoor> PriceChild, thanks. I think it
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> kbd: same chipset(xpress 1100) I get good support
[06:00] <pantico> kbd: heheh
[06:00] <Bagoor> PriceChild, It's better to start with istanbul
[06:00] <kbd> I wish ATI had pressed ahead with interchangeable cards
[06:00] <pantico> tnx all
[06:00] <kbd> pantico: wait
[06:00] <kbd> Search the forums
[06:00] <Bagoor> PriceChild, there is a ready package in Ubuntu repository, if it doesn't work, I will try recordmydesktop. Thx for hints
[06:01] <kbd> There are lots of smart X1600 users who will know etterthan me
[06:01] <kbd> *know better than*
[06:01] <uproot> do belkin usb wireless devices work with ubuntu ?
[06:01] <kbd> Bagoor: if it goes alright, let me know? I want to do this too
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> uproot: depends, are you using 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[06:01] <Bagoor> kbd, ok
[06:01] <uproot> nosrednaekim, im on a 32bit laptop
[06:01] <pantico> ok
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> ok
[06:02] <slavik> my session does not start in bigdesktop mode even though the xorg.conf file is correct (it does doe bigdesktop for another user)
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> whats the chipset in the belkin?
[06:02] <kbd> thanks!
[06:02] <uproot> nosrednaekim, im not sure. but check it here: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0657858993.1173459481@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdgaddkggfhfddcflgceggdhhmdgmj.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=369188&category_oid=
[06:02] <uproot> sorry for the long url lol
[06:03] <sputnik2012> hi all. I'm having problesm patching my kernel.  I've got the 2.6.19.2 source, tried bzcat patch-2.6.19.3.bz | patch -p1, get "Hunk #1 failed".  any ideas?
[06:03] <pantico> hi all
[06:04] <gameanomaly> need some help
[06:04] <detertj> I try to set up a bridge using the bridge-utils, and iptraf and tcpdump occasionally say that traffic is passing through the bridge, but a computer hooked up to the bridge can not send or receive traffic through it. Any ideas on why?
[06:04] <gameanomaly> prv me pls
[06:04] <kazim59> gameanomaly: ask ur question
[06:05] <gameanomaly> i`ve installed a virtual machine
[06:05] <gameanomaly> and ubuntu
[06:05] <gameanomaly> i`m a rookie concerning linux and this kind of things..
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> uproot: if its plugged in at the moment do the command " lsusb" and put in any entry that says anything about belkin or wireless
[06:05] <gameanomaly> where can i find drivers?
[06:05] <PriceChild> gameanomaly, drivers for what?
[06:06] <uproot> nosrednaekim, i have not purchased it yet, which is why im asking around. i dont want to pay 20 for a wireless device that may not work with linux lol
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> oh... right
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> uproot: there is a compatibility list somewhere'
[06:06] <uproot> :o
[06:06] <gameanomaly> all of them.. video, audio, network, usb.
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> gameanomaly, are none of themworking?
[06:07] <erUSUL> !hardware
[06:07] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:07] <gameanomaly> only audio
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> erUSUL, thanks
[06:07] <detertj> is there a better place i should go to find help on setting up a bridge?
[06:07] <PriceChild> gameanomaly, most are installed by default... is there a piece of hardware not functioning?
[06:07] <gameanomaly> usb isnt workin.. aldough a guy told me that usb should work by default
[06:07] <adminx> Anyone know if there is a url for Bluetooth on Fiesty Fawn?
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> game anomaly, anything else not work?
[06:08] <devilsreject> what up all
[06:08] <PriceChild> !feisty > adminx
[06:08] <gameanomaly> well.. there's no internet connection... when i configured the virtual machine.. i set it up to use the same settings as windows xp
[06:08] <adminx> Trying to get a Motorola BT headset to work
[06:08] <gameanomaly> same ip
[06:08] <devilsreject> That is all normal side effects from using XGl. You can not use 3d acceleration when using an XGL session.
[06:08] <devilsreject> __________________
[06:08] <devilsreject> "Total paranoia is just total awareness." - Charles Manson
[06:08] <devilsreject> Reply With Quote
[06:08] <drewcifer> hello ubuntu
[06:08] <devilsreject> saw this on a ubuntu forum is that true?
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> whait... its a virtual machine?
[06:09] <gameanomaly> yes
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[06:09] <PriceChild> devilsreject, yes, and please don't paste several lines at once :)
[06:09] <banutito> I have a bug the system crash after few minutes or seconds in any aplication that use opengl. system (AMD Sempron 2600+, Ati Radeon 9600 Pro, Via chipset)
[06:09] <devilsreject> PrinceChld --- k sorry
[06:09] <adminx> yes, my bad I meant Feisty
[06:09] <banutito> I have a bug the system crash after few minutes or seconds in any aplication that use opengl. system (AMD Sempron 2600+, Ati Radeon 9600 Pro, Via chipset)
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> are you using vmware game anomaly?
[06:09] <PriceChild> gameanomaly, So its running inside the virtual machine? Vmware ?
[06:09] <gameanomaly> yes
[06:09] <PriceChild> devilsreject, use tab to complete people's names... you won't type that extra n in mine then ;)
[06:10] <gameanomaly> so.. what do i have to do in order to acces the internet ?
[06:10] <tmkt> hey hey..trying to switch from beryl to compiz in feisty
[06:10] <tmkt> any tips?
[06:10] <PriceChild> tmkt, > #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu-effects
[06:10] <tmkt> k
[06:10] <devilsreject> PriceChild --- (wow sorry man iddn't realize) i gotta question then, someobyd told me to install xgl on here
[06:10] <devilsreject> i had server xgl installed
[06:10] <PriceChild> devilsreject, #ubuntu-effects please
[06:10] <devilsreject> but when i installed it the way they had me
[06:10] <devilsreject> k
[06:10] <drewcifer> does anyone know how to update my broken packages on an older sarge system?
[06:11] <devilsreject> man i hate overtime @ werk no time to fix my computer :0)
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> sarge, thats debain
[06:11] <devilsreject> i gotta leave soon
[06:11] <gameanomaly> i opened mozilla... tried to visit a website.. saw that it;s not workin, so i presumed there's no internet connection because i have to install a network driver
[06:11] <PriceChild> drewcifer, depends what's wrong with them? and #debian ;)
[06:11] <drewcifer> nosrednaekim: is there an easy way to go from debian to ubuntu?
[06:11] <PriceChild> gameanomaly, probably best you ask for support from the producer of your vm
[06:11] <drewcifer> its my understanding that they use the same packaging system
[06:11] <PriceChild> drewcifer, no "easy" way
[06:12] <drewcifer> ah, so the base packages are different?
[06:12] <PriceChild> drewcifer, ubuntu is based on debian.. but we don't support switching from one to the other...
[06:12] <PriceChild> drewcifer, probably best you do a fresh install... its definitely not easy :)
[06:12] <drewcifer> yeah i figured
[06:12] <drewcifer> but my ubuntu install disk won't boot
[06:12] <drewcifer> it seems to be for windows
[06:12] <drewcifer> or is it a live install disk
[06:13] <riaal> can someone please tell me how to install a cursors theme? =S
[06:13] <Jowi> drewcifer, the desktop cd is a live install disk.
[06:13] <kitche> drewcifer: the ubuntu desktop which is the main install disk is a live cd
[06:13] <gameanomaly> so my friend was right when he told me i don;t have to install drivers cause all devices should work by default
[06:13] <gameanomaly> ?
[06:13] <PriceChild> !alternate | drewcifer
[06:13] <ubotu> drewcifer: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:13] <tenco> i am trying to debug suspend to ram on my machine. with config_pm_trace i've got: hash matches drivers/base/power/resume.c:46
[06:13] <PriceChild> gameanomaly, Not everything is in by default... but most of it should be
[06:13] <tenco> how can i find out which device resume fails on?
[06:13] <kitche> gameanomaly: well to a point yes depends if you have odd hardware or not
[06:13] <carlosqueso> gameanomaly: mostly...some wireless cards and some graphics cards won't wor
[06:14] <Helmi> can anyone tell me why i don't see any .* files on the shell?
[06:14] <Helmi> e.g. .htaccess
[06:14] <kitche> Helmi: they are hidden ls -a to see them
[06:14] <Jowi> HellDragon, ls -la
[06:14] <PriceChild> Helmi, ls -a
[06:14] <Helmi> thanks
[06:14] <carlosqueso> Helmi... a .* file is "hidden" in linux
[06:14] <drewcifer> !alternate
[06:14] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:14] <Helmi> carlosqueso: didn't happen to see that on other distributions so far - that's why i wondered
[06:14] <gameanomaly> uh i don;t care about the graphic card.. i'm talking about the network adapter...
[06:15] <gameanomaly> :)
[06:15] <Jowi> gameanomaly, run "sudo network-admin" and see if it is detected and properly configured
[06:16] <linuXx> where can I get help on software-raid?
[06:16] <ardchoille> Jowi: is network-admin a gui app?
[06:16] <Jowi> ardchoille, yep
[06:16] <ardchoille> !gksudo | Jowi , gameanomaly
[06:16] <ubotu> Jowi , gameanomaly: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[06:17] <Jowi> ardchoille, cheers
[06:18] <Bagoor> kbd, I could starting up both istanbul and recordmydesktop (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605) but I can't play the output OGG file. The thumbnail of it is correct, but can't play it with VLC and totem.
[06:18] <linuXx> I created an raid array containing two 61.5gb disks, but its still just 61.5mb sized
[06:18] <cypher_> Please help me my Intel High Definition Soundcard does not work. HAL-Device-Manager List it. Proc Modules does list: 0 Intel. Alsa cant find Souncard 0. dnome-sound-setting
[06:19] <cypher_> request gnome-settings-daemon
[06:19] <cypher_> that requests DBUS
[06:19] <cypher_> dbus is not loaded
[06:19] <Kronuz> hello
[06:19] <gameanomaly> ok.. i've done that... a pannel called Network Settings" popped.. so... i still don't know why i cannot acces the internet
[06:19] <cav3man> hi i have problems runnig a raid5 with a promise tx4310
[06:19] <Kronuz> hey, if I want to install the KDE environment (I currently only have Gnome installed) what should I do?
[06:20] <Jowi> !kubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:20] <cypher_> PLEAS EHELP ME WITH MY SOUNDCARD, IM CRYING NOW THE HOLE DAY, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!
[06:20] <carlosqueso> kronuz sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <kitche> Kronuz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <kelsin> Kronuz: if you want the full kubuntu desktop you can "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:20] <gameanomaly> it's set to Automatic Configuration (dhcp).. it should work.. :|
[06:20] <PriceChild> !caps | cypher_
[06:20] <ubotu> cypher_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:20] <rjm_> anyone know iptables?
[06:20] <PriceChild> !anyone | rjm_
[06:20] <ubotu> rjm_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:21] <rjm_> whats the syntax for opening a range of tcp ports 2048-2248 in iptables?
[06:21] <kitche> gameanomaly: do ifconfig and see if it gets an ip if it does disable ipv6
[06:21] <rjm_> i tried sudo iptables -A CHAIN -p tcp --dport 2048:2248 -j ACCEPT
[06:21] <rjm_> i tried the same except 2048-2248, and it gave an error
[06:21] <cav3man> i cant add devices to the raid... there are 3 sata drives.. and some /dev/md*s
[06:21] <cav3man> but no /dev/sd*
[06:21] <banutito> anyone help! My system crash after few seconds or minutes in any application that use opengl. like quake3 etc... I have latest ati driver instaled on ubuntu daper 6.06 video Radeon9600
[06:21] <livingdaylight> cwillu: ping
[06:21] <MetaBookfoziS> !time
[06:21] <MetaBookfoziS> !date
[06:22] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> your video card is probably over heating
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> !gmt
[06:22] <Kronuz> thanks, I was missing the 'install' part :P
[06:22] <MKR> !utc
[06:22] <ubotu> gmt: Generic Mapping Tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 2978 kB, installed size 9024 kB
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Kalispero> Hello, I get some troubles with xfce session... it seems that my (perhaps) Gnome session is "overlaping" it (i am french and newbie ;-) ). Any ideas ?
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> my clock always -1 hours
[06:22] <d1gital> I am trying to run a web server (lighttpd). It is only for personal use, so i am not using the server edition of ubuntu.  I have it configured to use port 8080 because my ISP blocks incoming connections on port 80 (they want you to upgrade...)  My ports are forwarded correctly, i tested this with the ShieldsUp portscanner at grc.com.  When the webserver is running, port 8080 is open, and when it is not, port 8080 is closed. so f
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i get that back?
[06:22] <neo_> hi
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> i heard the problem about my cmos clock is gmt
[06:22] <riaal> omg!! I "installed" a "bad" theme, al my icons are gone!! how do I get it back??
[06:22] <MetaBookfoziS> and i settted that wrong
[06:22] <Kronuz> the bad news is it seems it's downloading from the internet (I have the disk) couldn't I just get the stuff from the disk instead?
[06:22] <cav3man> is there anyone able to help me with configuring a raid5 ?
[06:22] <PirateHead> I can't import photos using the default import wizard unless I'm root. How can I fix that?
[06:22] <banutito> nosrednaekim: no, video have a good cooler
[06:23] <neo_> fuck you
[06:23] <PriceChild> !ohmy | neo_
[06:23] <ubotu> neo_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:23] <riaal> how do I change theme from console? :S
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> !language | neo_
[06:24] <riaal> plese! I can't change theme! I installed a bad one and all icons and menues are gone!
[06:24] <banutito> nosrednaekim: and the temperature isn't more than 35 Celsius
[06:24] <kelsin> riaal: can you not change back to the other one in gnome?
[06:24] <PriceChild> LjL, was that meant for joh? or one key too high? :S
[06:25] <drewcifer> well my question might be generic enough for ubuntu
[06:25] <LjL> PriceChild, i didn't do anything. i intended to kick neo_, but he left before i even got opped
[06:25] <drewcifer> does anyone know how to deal with the system declaring all packages as broken?
[06:25] <riaal> kelsin, no, can't start the theme mangare
[06:25] <gameanomaly> and how do i disable ipv6?:|
[06:25] <banutito>  anyone help! My system crash after few seconds or minutes in any application that use opengl. like quake3 etc... I have latest ati driver instaled on ubuntu daper 6.06 video Radeon9600. Video And Cpu are cooled I tryed to change the videocard, but stil have the same problem
[06:25] <Kalispero> Hello, I get some troubles with xfce session... it seems that my (perhaps) Gnome session is "overlaping" it (i am french and newbie ;-) ).  I can't get the normal command as "right clic on desktop" to get menus, for example... Any ideas ?
[06:26] <carlosqueso> Kalispero: did you use nauiluts for anything?
[06:26] <MKR> riall, try logging in with another WM and launch the theme manager from there
[06:26] <Kalispero> is there anybody to help restore my XFCE session please ?
[06:26] <riaal> MKR,  what do you meen?
[06:26] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...yes...have you used natilus?
[06:27] <kelsin> riaal: gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme "whatever-theme-you-want"
[06:27] <kelsin> riaal: themes are in /usr/share/icons
[06:27] <MKR> riaal, if you log in with something like xfce or kde instead of gnome you might be able to get its theme manager to open
[06:27] <Kalispero> carlosqueso... thanks to answer... I think no
[06:27] <banutito> anyone help! My system crash after few seconds or minutes in any application that use opengl. like quake3 etc... I have latest ati driver instaled on ubuntu daper 6.06 video Radeon9600. Video And Cpu are cooled I tryed to change the videocard, but stil have the same problem
[06:27] <cav3man_> i need to know how to format a drive that is attached to a raid controller
[06:27] <EvilIdler> Anyone know how I get a desktop system's keyboard backlight working?
[06:27] <eddy> do some one know how to change amarok's engine to mpd?
[06:27] <riaal> kelsin, thanks!! testing it now
[06:28] <carlosqueso> Kalispero, then press ctrl+F2 which should give you a commmand prompt and enter xfdesktop --restart
[06:28] <gameanomaly> if i try to ping an ip, it sez Network is unreachable
[06:28] <MKR> ctrl+alt+f2 if you're inside a WM
[06:28] <d1gital> I am trying to run a web server (lighttpd). It is only for personal use, so i am not using the server edition of ubuntu.  I have it configured to use port 8080 because my ISP blocks incoming connections on port 80 (they want you to upgrade...)  My ports are forwarded correctly, i tested this with the ShieldsUp portscanner at grc.com.  When the webserver is running, port 8080 is open, and when it is not, port 8080 is closed. so f
[06:28] <kelsin> eddy: I didn't think that could be done
[06:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Is there any particular reason for the volume control app to get stuck in eternal krash mode? Is  a known issue? I havent done anything... just logged out last time and now its crashing all the time... taking the panel with it!
[06:29] <eddy> ok thanks
[06:29] <MKR> d1gital, what is the problem? Ports should only be open when a service is using it
[06:30] <d1gital> MKR: the port is open when lighttpd is running, which it  should be. correct?
[06:30] <kelsin> eddy: pympd and sonata are two music players that provide some of the amarok features but they are mpd clients. I know sonata is not in the repos until fiesty, don't know about pympd
[06:30] <MKR> right
[06:31] <MKR> d1gital, your questikn appears to have been cut off by freenode,. it stops at "so" and seems incomplete
[06:31] <MKR> *question
[06:31] <Kalispero> carlosqueso... xfdesktop --restart does not work ... I have tried xfdesktop --reload and it says me that xfdesktop isn't on !
[06:31] <riaal> kelsin, what do you meen by "/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme" ?
[06:31] <screaming_flower> hi all, we just installed ubuntu from a live CD (6.10), and updated it, with some extra programs, and when we rebooted, it comes up with an "unknown interupt at "such and such" while loading (or directly after loading) grub.  this is the second computer we've observed this on.
[06:31] <kelsin> riaal: that's the gconf key that controls what theme you're using
[06:31] <c_ubuntu_novice> how can I give myself permanent r and w permission to /var/www/ in ubuntu 6.10 ?
[06:31] <carlosqueso> kalispero...try just xfdesktop then
[06:32] <cav3man_> i have 3 unformatted sata drives
[06:32] <riaal> kelsin, hm, don't get ut but I sill just wright that?
[06:32] <cav3man_> how could i add them to /dev
[06:32] <PriceChild> c_ubuntu_novice, I'd advise you add yourself to the www-data group
[06:32] <PriceChild> c_ubuntu_novice, best to do that than mess with permissions
[06:32] <Kalispero> carlosqueso... that giving me that : (xfdesktop:5404): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_composite: assertion `dest_y >= 0 && dest_y + dest_height <= dest->height' failed
[06:32] <MKR> c_ubuntu_novice, chmod /var/www/ 775
[06:32] <Skorgu|Work> Where is the right place to ask a question about building packages and forcing specific dependencies?
[06:32] <dv_> oh man xcdroast is hard to get
[06:33] <dv_> anyone knows how to burn an image with it?
[06:33] <kelsin> yeah, I was slightly wrong you need: gconftool-2 -t string -s /dekstop/gnome/interface/icon_theme "whatever_theme_you_want"
[06:33] <morpheusdreams> Good afternoon folks. I am having a lot of trouble installing world of warcraft on my system. Have followed all the instructions on "http://russellthedigitalninja.com/wordpress/?p=9" but it didn't work.
[06:33] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...very strange...have you tried logging out without saving your session and logging back in?
[06:33] <kelsin> riaal: I forgot the "-t string" part
[06:33] <MKR> c_ubuntu_novice, you also need to make sure you own it (chown) or make sure your group can access irt
[06:33] <MKR> *it
[06:33] <riaal> kelsin, ?
[06:33] <d1gital> MKR: here is the rest:   When the webserver is running, port 8080 is open, and when it is not, port 8080 is closed. so far sso good. The problem i am having is that when i try to navigate to "http://<my ip>:8080" it loads indefinitely, and eventually times out.  Navigating to "http://127.0.0.1:8080" works fine.
[06:33] <riaal> man Im never going to change theme again
[06:33] <Kalispero> oh no, I haven't tried this... I do right now and get back straight away !
[06:33] <detertj> does anyone know why a bridge wouldn't work?
[06:33] <kelsin> riaal: just type: gconftool-2 -t string -s /dekstop/gnome/interface/icon_theme "th_theme_you_want"
[06:34] <kelsin> riaal: and replace "th_theme_you_want" with a directory in /usr/share/icons, for example "gnome" or "hicolor"
[06:34] <MKR> d1gital, that means lighthttp hasn't been bound to your public IP (i think)
[06:34] <kelsin> riaal: I spelled desktop wrong, make sure to fix that
[06:34] <riaal> kelsin, this will only fix icons? I need menues 2
[06:34] <kelsin> riaal: menus? you mean your gtk theme?
[06:34] <El_Burro> is is possible to add anold install of xp to the grub menu?
[06:35] <riaal> kelsin, eveything is gone
[06:35] <piggyg1> yep
[06:35] <d1gital> MKR:   oh i didnt even think of that... i will check lighttpd.conf
[06:35] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... oups... in terminal, how can I do that : no recording session statement ?
[06:35] <riaal> kelsin, only have x-chat running. cant se anything else
[06:35] <kelsin> riaal: do you mean you killed gnome-panel and metacity?
[06:35] <vverheijen> El_Burro: i don't think so (so it was a year back)
[06:35] <riaal> kelsin,  =(( probably?
[06:35] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...it isn't in terminal, but if you shut down the computer from there, it won't save your session
[06:35] <kelsin> riaal: if you have a term can you not run "gnome-theme-manager" and do it that way?
[06:36] <sysdoc> Anyone have the dist upgrade dork up their fstab??
[06:36] <soundray> El_Burro: yes. There is an example section in /boot/grub/menu.lst that you can adapt and append.
[06:36] <d1gital> MKR:  i think this is right... since it is commented out it should bind to all interfaces, right?  ## bind to localhost only (default: all interfaces)
[06:36] <d1gital> #server.bind                = "localhost"
[06:36] <riaal> kelsin, don't =(
[06:36] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... I am realy newbie... shuting down from terminal... what is the command please ?
[06:36] <d1gital> i should mention that i can access it from other computers on the network
[06:36] <MKR> d1gital, I don't know about lighthttp's configuration specifically. You might want to check the documentation to see how to configure binding
[06:36] <morpheusdreams>  Good afternoon folks. I am having a lot of trouble installing world of warcraft on my system. Have followed all the instructions on "http://russellthedigitalninja.com/wordpress/?p=9" but it didn't work.  Have deleted the WoW files from my system. Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent guide?
[06:36] <alberto> Hi, is it posible to change UID from default user?
[06:37] <kelsin> riaal: don't? are you trying to say you can't open a terminal, or that gnome-theme-manager doesn't work? or what?
[06:37] <vverheijen> soundray: you are sure? does that work with xp too?
[06:37] <alberto> Or creating a new user with SAME privileges of default user
[06:37] <soundray> vverheijen: yes, unless I misunderstood the question
[06:37] <riaal> kelsin, sorry, don't have a terminal open. And have no idea how to open it
[06:37] <MKR> riaal, alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[06:37] <carlosqueso> Kalispero "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart, change -r to -h to shut down
[06:37] <kelsin> riaal: then how were you going to type the command at all?
[06:37] <soundray> vverheijen: what was it that didn't work when you tried a year ago?
[06:38] <El_Burro> cheers
[06:38] <gaijin> Alberto: Under System -> Administration select "Users and Groups".
[06:38] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... thanks... I do
[06:38] <riaal> kelsin, Used alt+ctrl+F1
[06:38] <cav3man_> i have 3 unfromatted new sata drives on an raid controller how could i mount them into the system if it doestn find /dev/sd* ..pls need help
[06:38] <alberto> gaijin: Yes but UID cant be changed.
[06:38] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[06:39] <alberto> gaijin: Is 'closed' the option
[06:39] <pvf> hello, how can i make an rpm using my ubuntu box
[06:39] <Chai_Sangeen> did any one get kismet work on madwifi with a macbook?
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> pvf: I wouldn't recommend that
[06:39] <screaming_flower> can anyone offer any advice on "unknown interupt at "such and such" while loading (or directly after loading) grub?  or should i just go back to windows?
[06:39] <pzmoma> install checkinstall essential-build and any other dev packages that the prog requires
[06:39] <vverheijen> soundray: i don't know, i don't use it anymore at the moment
[06:39] <vverheijen> soundray: but i check it out
[06:40] <pvf> nosrednaekim, has it been done before !
[06:40] <pedro_> ola
[06:40] <kelsin> riaal: goto the console and type: DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-terminal
[06:40] <morpheusdreams> Good afternoon folks. I am having a lot of trouble installing world of warcraft on my system. Have followed all the instructions on "http://russellthedigitalninja.com/wordpress/?p=9" but it didn't work.  Have deleted the WoW files from my system. Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent guide?
[06:40] <soundray> vverheijen: never mind
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> pvf: I've never heard of it
[06:40] <MKR> pvf, I don't know what would compel you to do that, but you can install all the normal RPM tools rehat uses from the repositories
[06:40] <soundray> El_Burro: have you worked it out?
[06:40] <pedro_> david
[06:40] <kelsin> riaal: all on one line like that, it should open a terminal in the alt-F7 screen
[06:40] <MKR> *redhat
[06:40] <pzmoma> im guessing that you'll be compiling the rpm yourself
[06:40] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: have you isntalled wine from the repo listed at winehq.com the budgetdedicated.com server?
[06:40] <riaal> kelsin, okey, one sec
[06:41] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: so you have 9.30 or 9.31
[06:41] <morpheusdreams> kelsin i did everything on that site, i didnt have wine before
[06:41] <morpheusdreams> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:41] <pvf> MKR, i made an app in my ubuntu box, now my manger want's .deb e rpm packages
[06:41] <riaal> kelsin, wow! awesome!
[06:42] <pedro_> ola
[06:42] <pvf> MKR, just asking to see if it's possible
[06:42] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: what's not working for you?
[06:42] <MKR> pvf, like I said, all the RPM tools are in the repositories :P
[06:42] <sysdoc> Can someone help with fstab entry made during dist upgrade see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484/
[06:42] <morpheusdreams> kelsin on opening the screen just went black and nothing happened
[06:42] <cav3man_> i have 3 new sata drives i cant mounted
[06:42] <morpheusdreams> kelsin, on opening wow that is
[06:42] <pedro_> estas
[06:43] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: you have graphics acceleration enabled correctly?
[06:43] <carlosqueso> !es | pedro_
[06:43] <ubotu> pedro_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:43] <MKR> pvf, it looks like epm can make them
[06:43] <badagentx> How do I remove the prism2 drivers from the kernel
[06:43] <MKR> pvf, it's in the universe repositories
[06:43] <morpheusdreams> kelsin i'm not sure, how do i tell?
[06:43] <pvf> MKR, i saw it
[06:43] <pedro_> fokin
[06:43] <kelsin> glxinfo | grep direct
[06:43] <cav3man_> ubuntu doesnt seem to find my sata drives..
[06:44] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: just type "glxinfo | grep direct" in a terminal
[06:44] <riaal> kelsin, It started whit some error messege and I can't change anything
[06:44] <morpheusdreams> kelsin direct rendering: No
[06:44] <morpheusdreams> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:44] <MKR> ew
[06:45] <kelsin> riaal: what did you do when you installed this "bad" themes, themes should crash everything in gnome for you, have you tried logging out and back in?
[06:45] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: well then that was your issue, nothing to do with wine and wow probably
[06:45] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: what video card do you have?
[06:45] <morpheusdreams> kelsin geforce 6800 by leadtek
[06:45] <Hanya`Aku`KOK> Question : if i have snort to detect intruder, what should i do to  block it ? ( what software i should install )
[06:45] <soundray> badagentx: are you asking how to prevent them from loading?
[06:45] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: and do you have wow on another partition (like a windows install of it?)
[06:45] <kelsin> !nvidia | morpheusdreams
[06:45] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... I am back... no changes :-( the session seems to be recorded, I got the splash from XFCE but nor the command the same way than before
[06:45] <ubotu> morpheusdreams: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <riaal> kelsin, Im embarased to say, I tryed to install a curson theme
[06:45] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: install your nvidia card drivers first
[06:46] <MKR> install, enable, reboot
[06:46] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...do you have a panel?
[06:46] <morpheusdreams> ubotu  and kelsin thank you
[06:46] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:46] <kelsin> riaal: unfortunately I'm leaving very soon for shower / food / work, it seems like this is a much bigger issue then just reinstalling your theme
[06:46] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:46] <badagentx> I just want them not to be in the kernel anymore
[06:46] <frojnd> hello
[06:46] <riaal> kelsin,  =(((((((((
[06:46] <morpheusdreams> kelsin really? :|
[06:46] <Kalispero> Calosqueso... I got some, which do you want I open ?
[06:46] <kelsin> !bot
[06:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:46] <soundray> badagentx: they aren't in the kernel anyway, they come as modules in ubuntu.
[06:47] <frojnd> How can I change en language into my home language with open office?
[06:47] <MKR> morpheusdreams, linux powered robots are the best
[06:47] <frojnd> or do I have to download si verxion of office on official web page?
[06:47] <badagentx> well I don't want them how do i get rid of them
[06:47] <soundray> badagentx: prevent them from loading using ubotu's advice (private message)
[06:47] <morpheusdreams> MKR am scared now :D
[06:47] <soundray> !blacklist > badagentx
[06:47] <pedro_> ola
[06:47] <Kalispero> frojnd... get the local files from synaptic ;-)
[06:47] <riaal> kelsin, So your telling me I can't change back if I get the theme-manager up and running?
[06:47] <MKR> morpheusdreams, they're also very friendly and peaceful. However, you must never poke Tux.
[06:47] <frojnd> Kalispero: only this way??
[06:47] <satal> hi, i have a remote server hosting websites and email services (postfix, smtp, pop, ssl, clamav, etc) up until now i've been setting up local boxes to get the emails via pop3 and send via smtp, now what i'd like to have is a local imap (dovecot) they can connect to so the mail is in one place and easy to backup. I understand in theory how to set up the imap locally but how can i make it go and get the mail from the remote system via the exi
[06:47] <satal> sting setup and then drop them into local mail boxes? Has anyone any ideas how to get this setup working? thank you
[06:48] <riaal> kelsin, what happens if I make a new user and login whit it?
[06:48] <pedro_> guapa
[06:48] <carlosqueso> Kalispero....are you running any other window manager?
[06:48] <frojnd> Kalispero: can't just dl some langage modul?
[06:48] <morpheusdreams> MKR but, he looks so pokeable!
[06:48] <Kalispero> frojnd... yes do that
[06:48] <kelsin> riaal: I have no idea what you did, and if you're saying gnome-panel and metacity and other things crashed then it sounds MUCH bigger then just installing a theme
[06:48] <ieva> tad /identify pass
[06:48] <Kalispero> Calosqueso... I think Gnoem is on
[06:48] <frojnd> Kalispero: how?
[06:48] <kelsin> riaal: try it, if it works then good, you can also delete all of the .gnome .gconf folders in your home directory and relog in
[06:48] <riaal> kelsin, I draged a stupid curson theme to the theme manager and all disaperad
[06:49] <daedra> hey
[06:49] <kelsin> where did you get this curson theme?
[06:49] <pedro_> me kieres
[06:49] <wietz0r> Does NTFS read write work in 6.06 ?
[06:49] <badagentx> Ok thanks but now when I try to rmmod the driver it won't unload
[06:49] <riaal> kelsin, thanks a lot for trying to help!
[06:49] <bobby_> wietz0r: just for reading out of the box
[06:49] <soundray> wietz0r: with fuse, you can get it to work
[06:49] <kelsin> riaal: where did you get this theme?
[06:49] <Kalispero> frojnd... synaptic manager, and "openoffice" in search... sorry I get troubles now, can't help you more right now, I will stay later if needed
[06:49] <riaal> kelsin, gnomelook
[06:50] <riaal> .org
[06:50] <pedro_> si
[06:50] <kelsin> riaal: link to the theme?
[06:50] <zOap> If I have a ubuntu deb file I want to install, how do I prepare the packatge dependecies?
[06:50] <riaal> kelsin, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32627
[06:50] <chris_shafto> Hey guys, can someone please help me with sound problems?
[06:50] <mellado> ola
[06:50] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...well then open up a terminal and type "ps aux | grep nautilus" and see if it gives you a line not ending in "grep nautilus"
[06:50] <kelsin> zOap: is this a pacakge not into the repositories?
[06:50] <soundray> badagentx: either reboot, or stop networking and then try again
[06:50] <zOap> kelsin,  yes
[06:50] <badagentx> kk
[06:50] <wietz0r> bobby_ so, I have a 250 gb external harddrive, it's filled 120 gb can I just shrink the NTFS one and format the hd as ext3 ?
[06:50] <soundray> !sound > chris_shafto, please read ubotu's private message
[06:50] <pedro_> ola guapa
[06:50] <LjL> !es | mellado, pedro_
[06:50] <ubotu> mellado, pedro_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:51] <soundray> wietz0r: yes, use gparted
[06:51] <mellado> wapa
[06:51] <LjL> mellado: english please
[06:51] <chris_shafto> soundray, I had to come on here last time though, can only play one audio output at a time
[06:51] <tro> i compiled my own kernel and now i don't get any informational messages at boot. the screen is just blank until x starts. i don't have "quiet" or "splash" in grub config. any ideas?
[06:51] <wietz0r> soundray: Thanks alot
[06:51] <mellado> no
[06:51] <idefix> you cannot leave messages in X-Chat
[06:51] <pedro_> olaguapo
[06:52] <Hanya`Aku`KOK> Question : if i have snort to detect intruder, what should i do to  block it ? ( what software i should install )
[06:52] <chris_shafto> Can anyone help...Can only hear one audio at put at a time?
[06:52] <Kalispero> Calosqueso... I get around 4 full lines like nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nautilus-rGenC3/ --sm-client-id
[06:53] <Phasor> Hello all! Can someone help me with setting up MIDI playback? I have installed Rosegarden and would like to be able to listen to some compositions. However, no sound is generated. I have a Realtek built-in soundcard on my motherboard.
[06:53] <soundray> Hi LjL, while you're at it, could you ban wo0lverine for the offensive quit message?
[06:53] <Phasor> Normal sound works fine by the way
[06:53] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...then you're right...somthing from gnome is running.  Try typing "sudo killall nautilus" in a terminal and run the ps aux stuff again
[06:53] <Lasse> every time I log in X automatically shuts down and takes me back to the login screen --- any idears
[06:54] <soundray> chris_shafto: configure your sound programs to use alsa backends
[06:54] <soundray> LjL: thank you
[06:54] <elgopher_> i
[06:54] <elgopher_> hi
[06:54] <elgopher_> just a question
[06:54] <elgopher_>  somebody know how can I translate "nutshell"?
[06:54] <elgopher_> to spanish
[06:54] <chris_shafto> soundray, Thanks buddy :)
[06:54] <LjL> !offtopic | elgopher_
[06:54] <ubotu> elgopher_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:54] <morpheusdreams> kelsin in that website the guide it gives it asks me to go to synaptic package manager > settings > repositories and then a "Software Properties" window should come up where i can add stuff, but a "Software Sources" window comes up with no add button
[06:55] <Shaffox> my sound doesn't work anymore, it always has been fine, now i boot the pc and it doesn't work anymore, anyone a solution???
[06:55] <soundray> Lasse: first thing to check is whether your root partition is full
[06:55] <soundray> Lasse: can you log in on the console?
[06:55] <Lasse> soundray:  no plenty of space left there
[06:55] <riaal> what to do if "kill PID" don't work
[06:55] <Pici> riaal: kill pid -9
[06:55] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... I now just get a line of numbers with "pts R+ grep nautilus" in randomed spelled ;-)
[06:55] <Lasse> soundray: i can log in to the fail safe gnome (that's what im doing now)
[06:55] <kelsin> riaal: it says on that page to extract to ~/.icons , nothing about dragging to theme manager, the theme manager does not handle cursors. I would delete all of the .gnome or .gconf like directories in your home directory then log out and back in, you can quit out of your current session with ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:56] <soundray> Lasse: see if you can find an error message in $HOME/.xsession-errors relating to the login failure
[06:56] <carlosqueso> Kalispero, great, the witch is dead...now try starting xfdesktop
[06:56] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... yep ! ;-)
[06:56] <riaal> kelsin,  sorry for the lame actions =) thanks a lot for helping
[06:57] <Lasse> soundray: :) there is a lot in that file , anything in specific im looking for ?
[06:57] <carlosqueso> Kalispero, did itw work?
[06:57] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: if you have already enalbed the universe and multiverse repos you're all set for that step
[06:57] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... is seems to work, but... I also get this : (xfdesktop:5494): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_composite: assertion `dest_y >= 0 && dest_y + dest_height <= dest->height' failed
[06:57] <morpheusdreams> how do i tell which kernel i have?
[06:57] <soundray> Lasse: browse it and see if anything makes sense. If it's not way too much, post it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to see.
[06:58] <soundray> morpheusdreams: uname -a
[06:58] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...are you starting it from a terminal or in the run box?
[06:58] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu you can go there and follow that help to add them also, then go back to the nvidia help to add the nvidia packages
[06:58] <morpheusdreams> kelsin i think i already had them thanks :)
[06:58] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... I have started my session by the normal way... from the login panel
[06:58] <omha> hey, does anyone know a automatix mirror?
[06:58] <morpheusdreams> soundray ty
[06:59] <tro> is there a kernel configuration option that enables the text terminals on boot? i just see black screens until x starts
[06:59] <PriceChild> !automatix | omha
[06:59] <ubotu> omha: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:59] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...where is that warning coming up?
[06:59] <PriceChild> omha, automatix's server has been wiped. There is no mirror. #automatix for questions
[06:59] <Lasse> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9487/
[06:59] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: then just continue witht he rest of the nvidia guide, if you get your nvidia card working then wow should run in the newer wines (like you isntalled) with no issues, good luck
[06:59] <clearzen> Do you know of a Linux based application that can read the EIT table from
[06:59] <clearzen> the MPEG 2 stream?
[06:59] <ardchoille> root     (hd0,7)  <-- this is for /dev/hda  do I use the same for /dev/hdb?
[06:59] <priich> Pici, kill -9 is very strong. Leaves temp files, open sockets, orphaned processes etc. Better try the other SIGs first. like 15,2,1
[07:00] <morpheusdreams> kelsin ty and see you on the other side :D
[07:00] <Pici> priich: thanks for the tip
[07:00] <priich> :)
[07:00] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... I was installing adesklet and all was good but I forgot what was wrong at least
[07:01] <Lasse> soundray: does not make too much sense to me im afraid :/
[07:01] <carlosqueso> Kalispero...is it working now?
[07:01] <riaal> kelsin, worked! thanks a lot!!
[07:01] <wizo> hey, do i have to install X11 or something before install fluxbox?
[07:02] <kelsin> riaal: np, good luck getting those cursors installed, cursors in xwindows are wierd, not as easy as icon,gtk and metacity themes
[07:02] <chris_shafto> soundray, ALSA, does it work with Teamspeak?
[07:02] <soundray> Lasse: something seems to be crashing your X server. Create a new user named test, login as that and see if that results in the same problem.
[07:02] <kelsin> wizo: yes, unless you are doing something crazy :)
[07:02] <soundray> chris_shafto: sorry, I don't know Teamspeak
[07:02] <chris_shafto> soundray, okay np
[07:02] <Kalispero> Yes, just this sentence that do not tell me anything... that seems to work... thanks you... but Have I a risk to get the same troubles at reboot ?
[07:02] <Lasse> soundray: okay will try that now :)
[07:02] <soundray> Lasse, if that works, you should reset your gnome config.
[07:02] <carlosqueso> not if you log out saving your session
[07:02] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... Yes, just this sentence that do not tell me anything... that seems to work... thanks you... but Have I a risk to get the same troubles at reboot ?
[07:03] <riaal> kelsin, Im not going to bother =) Im just so happy its working again!
[07:03] <chris_shafto> soundray, do you know the thing for ALSA, that goes something like /dev/dsp?
[07:03] <Lasse> soundray: well i have a standard gnome config in the first place ... how do i reset it ?
[07:03] <carlosqueso> those errors are just garbage you get when running GTK stuff from the command line
[07:03] <wizo> anyone knows the name of the package that i have to search for?
[07:03] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... you mean that I have to saving my session now, is it that ?
[07:03] <wizo> sudo apt-cache search X11 gave me alot of results
[07:03] <PriceChild> wizo, fluxbox should pull in xorg
[07:04] <PriceChild> wizo, but its "xserver-xorg" that should do it
[07:04] <wizo> oh i see, thanks
[07:04] <carlosqueso> Kalispero....no, when you log out the normal way...there shoudl be a checkbox with "save your session" (or it's french equivalent), and that should be checked
[07:04] <chris_shafto> Does anybody know how to point a program to the ALSA Audio drivers?
[07:05] <morpheusdreams> whats the command to see if you have 3d acceleration on?
[07:05] <soundray> ubotu, gnomereset is <reply>To delete your gnome configuration and start with a fresh one, log into a failsafe session and run 'cd ; mkdir gnomeconf-backup ; mv .gconf* .gnome* gnomeconf-backup'.
[07:06] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... that was checked ! Thanks you for the rescue ;-)
[07:06] <chris_shafto> Can anybody please tell me how i point a program, such as Teamspeak, to use the ALSA Drivers?
[07:06] <soundray> Lasse: see my message to ubotu ^^. I'll be back in an hour or so.
[07:06] <carlosqueso> Kalispero, no problem...I go to eat lunch now...good luck
[07:06] <kritzstapf> does anybody know where to find "Gscore" (v0.9)?
[07:06] <kritzstapf> www.gscore.org seems to be kind of empty
[07:06] <roe> is there some gnome app that will save my window positioning?
[07:06] <bzozo> Hello
[07:06] <morpheusdreams> kelsin, what was that command to check 3d acceleration?
[07:06] <Kalispero> Carlosqueso... Good Lunch... it's also time to lunch here... Good appetit ! ;-) Bye
[07:06] <bzozo> I've a problem with the latest version of cups
[07:07] <bzozo> (i'm french, so pardon my english)
[07:07] <kelsin> morpheusdreams: glxinfo displays a whole lot of stuff so normall it's easier to: glxinfo | grep direct
[07:07] <morpheusdreams> kelsin thanks :) i'll get used to this sometime :)
[07:08] <omha> is there a way to complete "reset" my system to a default out of the box ubuntu without burning a cd ?
[07:08] <doff> Xine Multimedia Player. what is the hotkey to make it stay always on top? I've looked through hotkey lust alt+k and didn't find it. is there such option?
[07:08] <bzozo> Is there a way to use an older version of cups ?
[07:09] <chris_shafto> Can anybody please tell me how i point a program, such as Teamspeak, to use the ALSA Drivers?
[07:09] <Kalispero> frojnd... Hello... You speak french, isn't it ? did you manage to get translation of Openoffice yet ?
[07:09] <chris_shafto> Can anybody please tell me how i point a program, such as Teamspeak, to use the ALSA Driver? Has something like dev/.......
[07:10] <bobby_> chris_shafto: if the program uses oss (as many do) you can install the alsa-oss package and run your program like : aoss command
[07:10] <ardchoille> in the /boot/grub/menu.lst, what is (hd0,0)? Is that /dev/hda1? For /dev/hdb1 would I put (hd1,0) ?
[07:10] <bobby_> not sure if there's another way to make teamspeak use alsa tho
[07:10] <chris_shafto> bobby_, how do i do that?
[07:10] <frojnd> Kalispero: no I don't speak french, but I manage to get translation :)
[07:11] <bzozo> ardchoille, precisely
[07:11] <ardchoille> bzozo: Thank you
[07:11] <Kalispero> frojnd, ok... ;-)... you will get it... do you know how to open Synaptic Package Manager ?
[07:11] <frojnd> I did it via apt :)
[07:11] <chris_shafto> bobby_, please explain, newbie to Ubuntu
[07:11] <frojnd> I never use GUI for that such a things..
[07:12] <bobby_> chris_shafto: in a console type: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss  , after you're done with that you can use the command aoss to start any program you want that uses OSS and it will wrap it to alsa. Im not really sure if Teamspeak uses OSS though, but it probalby does.
[07:12] <Kalispero> frojnd... ok, and no translation found ?
[07:12] <adrian_> hi, does anyone know a server where i can find help about assembly?
[07:12] <SauLus> hello, I need some old software-Ocaml 3.01  - how can I get it
[07:12] <frojnd> Kalispero: [19:12:57]  <frojnd> Kalispero: no I don't speak french, but I manage to got translation :)
[07:13] <chris_shafto> bobby_, get this...E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:13] <colbert> How can I mount a drive I can see in Network Servers that's on a networked XP PC so I can see it in Save As dialog boxes and such in Ubuntu programs ?
[07:13] <grusomhat> Jowi: are you here?
[07:14] <Kalispero> frojnd... which language do you want for your Openoffice ?
[07:14] <bobby_> chris_shafto: run the program it says :p
[07:14] <chris_shafto> bobby_, did do :P
[07:14] <frojnd> Kalispero: I allready manage to get my language support, do I speak so bad ...
[07:14] <screaming_flower> i posted earlier about a unknown interrupt error during grub, after browsing the forums i've learned that someone else has had this problem.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318597  since, i've been able to produce this error on 2 systems, what should I do next?
[07:15] <bzozo> Is it possible to return to an older version of cups ?
[07:15] <Kalispero> frojnd... oups... I may have a pause, sorry ;-)
[07:15] <bzozo> I cannot longer use my Brother HL-2030 with version 1.2.4.2unbuntu3. that suck
[07:15] <frojnd> Kalispero: mp :)
[07:15] <frojnd> np*
[07:16] <screaming_flower> sorry, clarification, it doesn't even get to grub,
[07:18] <riaal> what is "Metacity" on pages like www.gnome-look.org?
[07:18] <erUSUL> riaal: the window manager
[07:19] <riaal> erUSUL, what does it change? everything?
[07:19] <leros> When I updated ubuntu, I got this error: "http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/edgy/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 301 Moved Permanently"
[07:20] <chris_shafto> Okay need more serious help XD, cant run apt-update command, cause i installed peerguardian, to use as a firewall, and its corrupt... says it needs reinstallling, but wont reinstall, any help?
[07:20] <wick2o> i have created a custom install cd, and when i try to use it to install i get a "warning: file:///cdrom/pool/main/u/ubuntu-keyring/ubuntu-keyring*dev was corrupt
[07:20] <wick2o> i followed the online guide on the community pages
[07:21] <wick2o> and even went one step farther and updated the md5sum.txt file with the new hashes
[07:21] <Lasse_> soundray: well ... test works ... how do i delete my real users gnome settings ?
[07:21] <wick2o> is there something obvious that im just not seeing?
[07:21] <riaal> how can I make the terminal window transparent?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> riaal,  depends on which terminal progrm. and if you want 'true' or 'fake' transparency
[07:22] <Lasse_> riaal: edit -> profile -> edit -> effects
[07:23] <washbear> Bug or feature? Custom boot parameters in Grub are overriden by the new kernel's default when upgrading the kernel (it never used to be like that, and it sure sucks, I think)
[07:23] <riaal> Lasse_, thanks
[07:23] <Lasse_> riaal: np :)
[07:23] <charl_ie> hi, can anyone help me with ndiswrapper? I've just installed ubuntu 6.10 and have gone through the installatio process for ndis wrapper, but it won't connect
[07:23] <chris_shafto> I get this error message 'E: The package peerguardnf needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:23] <chris_shafto> ' how can i get rid of peerguardian completley
[07:24] <kitche> washbear: it's a feature if you want custom boot parameters you have to put your boot stuff below the automated debian line at the end of the file
[07:24] <riaal> Dr_willis, you meen that it will only display the desktop background ?
[07:24] <Lasse_> how do I reset the gnome configuration for another user ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> riaal,  thats how most of the transparcies work.
[07:24] <starcraft> ahoy there ubuntu people :), I have a small problem... was installing XGL+compiz and following along the ubuntuguide.org steps very useful, when I went to download the gpg key from hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net the server timed out....
[07:24] <erUSUL> riaal: window borders and decorations
[07:24] <starcraft> what should I do about that?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> riaal,  'true' transparency is a relativy new feature.. part of that compwiz, or other xgl/beryl eye candy
[07:24] <riaal> erUSUL, ?
[07:24] <wispy> Hey
[07:24] <riaal> Dr_willis, oh, okey
[07:25] <chris_shafto> ' how can i get rid of peerguardian completley?
[07:25] <chris_shafto> I get this error message 'E: The package peerguardnf needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:25] <chris_shafto> ' how can i get rid of peerguardian completley?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> riaal,  of course i find any transparency to be bla.. since it makes the text harder to read.
[07:25] <colbert> How can I mount a drive I can see in Network Servers that's on a networked XP PC so I can see it in Save As dialog boxes and such in Ubuntu programs ?
[07:25] <Lasse_> starcraft: wait a little while and then try again .... usually does the trick
[07:25] <Dr_willis> chris_shafto,  try the 'force' option to apt-get remove ?
[07:25] <erUSUL> riaal: "what does it change? everything?" no everything only window borders and decorations
[07:25] <chris_shafto> Dr_willis, where in the command does force go?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> chris_shafto,  or try sudo aptitude remove peerguardian (or whatever its called)
[07:25] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:25] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:25] <Lasse_> colbert: use Places -> connect to server
[07:26] <Chetwin> I'm not getting any assistance in the upstart channel
[07:26] <riaal> erUSUL, oh, is it hard to install?
[07:26] <wispy> <wireless help needed> Can ne1 help me get either a netgear ma111 (usb) or a admtek wa1220 (card) working ><
[07:26] <Dr_willis> chris_shafto,  its an option to apt-get     somthing like apt-get remove -force (or similer)
[07:26] <Chetwin> Can someone help me?  I have ridiculously long boot times when I have restriced-modules installed
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Chetwin,  disable the splash screen and see whats taking the most time?
[07:26] <RagingBull> my upgrade from dapper to edgy has been causing me problems
[07:26] <Chetwin> How ?
[07:27] <erUSUL> riaal: metacity themes?
[07:27] <Chetwin> splash = 0
[07:27] <RagingBull> how can I go back to dapper with out a live cd fresh install
[07:27] <Lasse_> Chetwin: depends what modules .. elaborate a little :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> i use the 'nosplash' option to the kernel.
[07:27] <riaal> erUSUL, yeh
[07:27] <Chetwin> I don't know, I can't see the kernel messages
[07:27] <chris_shafto> Dr_willis,  E: Option -force: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>.
[07:27] <colbert> Lasse_: Thank you !
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Chetwin,  may be able to hit escape or f2 or somthing
[07:27] <Chetwin> So when booting, it tells me to press esc
[07:27] <lamego> RagingBull, you can't
[07:27] <Lasse_> colbert: welcome
[07:27] <charl_ie> hi, can anyone help me with ndiswrapper? I've just installed ubuntu 6.10 and have gone through the installation process for ndiswrapper, but i ca't connect
[07:27] <Chetwin> Then just type nosplash?
[07:27] <RagingBull> lol
[07:27] <RagingBull> great
[07:27] <RagingBull> re-install
[07:27] <RagingBull>  6.06 then
[07:27] <Dr_willis> chris_shafto,   may be time to read up on the apt-get userguide a bit for the more power-user options. I rarely need to use any of them.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:28] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:28] <RagingBull> it's wierd now my printer doesn't work and I have to use sudo pwd to open Gaim
[07:28] <lamego> and to be honest, a clean install is always the best option
[07:28] <Chetwin> charlie_ie: I would be happy to assist, but I am looking into an issue and I have a doc appt after that, if you're still her at 1230 PST, I'll assist
[07:28] <lamego> distupgrades can be problematic
[07:28] <RagingBull> lamego: I hear ya; just dont want to go through reinstalling all the restricted formats again
[07:28] <erUSUL> riaal: i recomend you to install gnome-art it is aprogram that install themes
[07:28] <lamego> RagingBull, why not ? Thats one command :)
[07:29] <RagingBull> lamego: what is that...been awhiles ince I;ve used linux
[07:29] <riaal> erUSUL, okey, thanks
[07:29] <colbert> Lasse_: Now my network shares are visible on my desktop but in Firefox for example if I click a jpg or something and "Save to Disk" the shares aren't visible??
[07:29] <screaming_flower> am i asking my question wrong?
[07:29] <RagingBull> lamego: I will be loosing all my programs correct?
[07:29] <grusomhat> What's the command that gets you to the display settings from bash, xorg-?
[07:29] <erUSUL> riaal: no problem
[07:29] <W^Hard^> hi ! i got ubuntu edgy iso on linux i.e suse and i want to install it on other pc thr network
[07:29] <lamego> RagingBull, you just need to check the help guide, its pretty simple to follow
[07:29] <W^Hard^> can i do that ?
[07:30] <Lasse_> colbert: you can drag them to the left menu if you want to .. that will show the shares when you download
[07:30] <RagingBull> lamego: np thanks for the info
[07:30] <axion> grusomhat: try xorgcfg
[07:30] <lamego> RagingBull, yes, but they can be easily installed
[07:30] <RagingBull> lamgeo: check
[07:30] <grusomhat> axion: thanks I'll give it a go
[07:30] <Lasse_> colbert: that was horribly written - drag the share folder to your menu and then when you want to download or browse your disk you can see it in the left menu ....
[07:31] <RagingBull> thanks for the help...going for a reinstall eeerh
[07:31] <Lasse> RagingBull: make another partition where you can save your data when you reinstall ...
[07:31] <Lasse> okay ... too slow :)
[07:32] <Kuban> does anybody know if i can connect two computers in lan network when on first computer is xp system and on another ubuntu?
[07:32] <ExxKA> Kuban sure you can
[07:32] <Lasse> Kuban: yes use samba
[07:32] <colbert> Lasse_: Strange, I dragged it, saw nothing show up in the left menu and then dragged it again and said it cannot add bookmark, it is already there.. but it's not showing up ??
[07:33] <Lasse> colbert: uhm... :-s dont know try closing it and see if it is there when you open it...
[07:33] <w0rmy> hi, is there an easy way to burn BIN+CUE cds instead of converting them to iso ?
[07:33] <chris_shafto> whats the terminal command to run a .deb file without using the package installer?
[07:33] <Kuban> ExxKa: so i won't have any problems with internet connection?
[07:33] <Lasse> colbert: remember to "remember password" when you connect to the remote server
[07:34] <soundray> Lasse: did you find out how?
[07:34] <Lasse> soundray:  no
[07:34] <soundray> Lasse: in failsafe, 'cd ; mkdir gnomeconf-backup ; mv .gconf* .gnome* gnomeconf-backup'.
[07:34] <ExxKA> Kuban, so if I understand it right, you want to share an internet connection between two copmuters? cause then you need a router. Samba is for sharing files and printers
[07:34] <W^Hard^> hi ! i got ubuntu edgy iso on linux i.e suse and i want to install it on other pc thr network
[07:34] <W^Hard^> can i do that ??
[07:35] <soundray> Lasse, you can remove $HOME/gnomeconf-backup when everything is working again
[07:35] <Marc1> anyones knows where i can find the package for sunbird-ubuntu?
[07:35] <kitche> !sunbird
[07:35] <ubotu> Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[07:35] <Lasse> soundray:  cool thanks a million ... i'll see if it works now :)
[07:35] <kitche> !find sunbird | Marc1
[07:35] <fizz_> #ubuntu-effects
[07:36] <fizz_> oops
[07:36] <ubotu> marc1: Package/file sunbird does not exist in edgy
[07:36] <ExxKA> W^Hard^ yeah but it's a lot of work setting up an ftp server / PXE, and transfering the image while booting.. Why not just burn it to a disc?
[07:36] <Kuban> ExxKa:so i need two network cards?
[07:36] <chris_shafto> soundray, what was the command i wanted too run before to get the oss alsa things please?
[07:36] <Lasse> soundray:  ... hmm ... .doesn't do the trick ...
[07:36] <Lasse> soundray:  was kicked right out of there...
[07:36] <ExxKA> Kuban, yeah, if you want to share an internet connection between two pc's.
[07:36] <ubuntu_> Would debian be possible to install on a 2gb ipod, booting of a cd-rom containing the GRUB bootloader ?
[07:36] <wispy> hm question on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb#head-0ff163486c6c375263f73bd3265c7bc2afa884a7 do i have to install the thing in section 2 AND section 1?
[07:36] <ExxKA> Kuban, but you only need one card pr. pc :)
[07:37] <Kuban> ExxKA:what is pr.
[07:37] <ExxKA> per
[07:37] <ExxKA> for each*
[07:37] <chris_shafto> soundray, what was the command i wanted too run before to get the oss alsa things please?
[07:38] <Marc1> so no one as compilled sunbird for ubuntu yet?
[07:38] <soundray> Lasse: maybe the culprit is started from .gnomerc or .xsession or something like that...
[07:38] <WorldDomination> heya
[07:38] <apokryphos> !info sunbird
[07:38] <ubotu> Package sunbird does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:38] <W^Hard^> can anyone help me ?
[07:38] <soundray> chris_shafto: I'm not sure I understand your question...
[07:38] <wispy> or me ^^
[07:38] <mbac> lol
[07:38] <Marc1> ubotu: thanx
[07:38] <Lasse> soundray: question is ... how many of the conf files i can remove before it completely breaks ;)
[07:38] <mbac> the "updates available" notification window says to click the icon, but when you click the icon it simply makes the blurb go away
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <mbac> and you need to click it again to apply the updates
[07:38] <Kuban> ExxKA:ok but there won't be any problem with file systems?
[07:39] <simon__> mowi ktos po polsku?
[07:39] <Kuban> ja
[07:39] <Kuban> :)))
[07:39] <Lasse> mbac: click the icon not the message ;)
[07:39] <W^Hard^> hello ?
[07:39] <soundray> Lasse: oh well... there's always a working set of fallbacks in /etc/skel/
[07:39] <chris_shafto> Is there a terminal command to execute a .deb package?
[07:39] <mbac> Lasse, i did
[07:39] <coxande> anybody know if new beta release lauch today ???
[07:39] <mbac> it simply made the blurb disappear
[07:39] <adaran> chris_shafto: dpkg, if you want to install it try dpkg -i
[07:39] <Lasse> mbac: then it should pop up with the updates when you click the square orange icon
[07:39] <mbac> Lasse, that's exactly what i described
[07:40] <Lasse> soundray: cant i just copy them over then ?
[07:40] <Kuban> simon: i speak polish
[07:40] <adaran> can anyone tell me why i cannot use a resolution other then 1280x1024? even though i configured them, the nv xorg driver refuses to switch
[07:40] <simon__> are you speak english?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> !pl | simon__
[07:40] <ubotu> simon__: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:40] <simon__> maybe?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> yeah, here we do
[07:40] <mbac> i guess i wasn't being clear?  it should launch the updates window on -any- user action (except if they click the little 'x' to make it go away)
[07:40] <Kuban> simon:t y byku
[07:40] <Lasse> mbac: then go to system -> administration -> update manager
[07:40] <simon__> strzala kuban
[07:41] <Kuban>  ExxKA:ok but there won't be any problem with file systems?
[07:41] <mbac> lasse, I KNOW
[07:41] <simon__> downset rulez
[07:41] <mbac> lasse, i am describing a BUG
[07:41] <Kuban> simon: co to znaczy?
[07:41] <Lasse> mbac: ;) sorry ... well ... if it doesnt work then either report the bug or see if it shows up in a log file :)
[07:41] <soundray> Lasse, you can, but you'll end up with a mixed set. I would try a bit more diagnosing first. After all, it must be due to some change you've made.
[07:41] <simon__> taka kapelka
[07:41] <Lasse> soundray: most likely ;)
[07:41] <ExxKA> Kuban, if you run an ftp server / samba server, there wil be no problem with the filesystems, BUT you can't run windows exe files on linux systems :)
[07:42] <simon__> uwielbiam ja
[07:42] <Kuban> ExxKA:ok i know
[07:42] <simon__> wlasnie mi bebenki niszczy
[07:42] <ExxKA> Kuban ok :)
[07:42] <Kuban> ExxKA:thank you for helping me:)
[07:42] <ExxKA> Kuban np, don't forget to help others when you become more skilled :)
[07:43] <simon__> kuban jakie tu sa zasady pogawedek?
[07:43] <marcel> is it safe to upgrade to feisty yawn yet? from edgy? or still too buggy?
[07:43] <simon__> only english?
[07:43] <kitche> simon__: english only there is other channels for your language though
[07:43] <Kuban> simon: yes chyba jo:))
[07:43] <simon__> fock
[07:44] <ExxKA> marcel, it'll eat your HD, and burn your CD's
[07:44] <simon__> i will try
[07:44] <simon__> :)
[07:44] <ExxKA> marcel, fry even :P
[07:44] <gu014> would i be able to repair a boot.ini file on an ubuntu live cd? my lenovo laptop is stuck at boot on a black screen with a blinking cursor? would ubuntu be able to help me :( ?
[07:44] <marcel> ExxKA, so yes?
[07:44] <simon__> kuban where are you live?
[07:44] <ExxKA> gu014, yes or damnsmalllinux <- my favourite live cd
[07:44] <adaran> gu014: that's wishful thinking
[07:44] <Kuban> simon:in poland
[07:45] <simon__> good
[07:45] <simon__> :)
[07:45] <Kuban> simon:what about you
[07:45] <adaran> gu014: if you want to try though, knoppix is a more easily usable live cd
[07:45] <ExxKA> gu014 damn small linux, will let you boot and edit a fat16/32 filesystem
[07:45] <simon__> what kind of music you prefere?
[07:45] <Kuban> ok i have to go, goodbye everyone:)
[07:45] <adaran> gu014: what makes you think that boot.ini is at fault
[07:45] <ExxKA> simon__, Kuban, please use pmsg's for private topics.
[07:46] <simon__> i live in Silesian, in small villige
[07:46] <soundray> simon__, Kuban: please take your chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <gu014> ExxKA,adaran: if you would be so kind, what steps would i have to perform to correct this issue? i know how to mount an ntfs f/s ..
[07:46] <simon__> Studzionka
[07:46] <riaal> where do I find the application for weather thats on this image: http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/52980-2.jpg
[07:46] <gu014> adaran, i do not know for sure..but from google it seems that way...it is stuck on a black screen with a blink cursor..when i try and access the lenovo recovery partition i receive the same black screen..
[07:47] <ExxKA> gu014, it's probably not the Boot.ini thats corrupted, it's most likely your Harddrive. So start retrieving all your important files when you get in contact with them.
[07:47] <vox754> Don't you think that overall the font size and window size of all Ubuntu applications are huge? I mean, with the same resolution 1280x1024 and 96 dpi fonts, Windows XP seems fine while Ubuntu looks bulky. I had to set 82 dpi fonts just to make it look good.
[07:47] <kichigai> Say, anyone here have experience with nVidia and beryl?
[07:47] <ExxKA> gu014, you can do this by running the live cd, mounting the partition and uploading the files to an ftp server / usb stick / diskette
[07:47] <Dr_willis> vox754,  not really.. of course my wife sets her windows xp system up to be 800x600 res - so she can see everything.
[07:48] <soundray> Lasse: if you do decide to go back to default, I suggest the following procedure in a root shell (sudo -i): 'mv /home/lasse /home/lasse-backup ; cp -a /etc/skel /home/lasse ; chown -R lasse.lasse /home/lasse ; mv /home/lasse-backup/* /home/lasse/'
[07:48] <adaran> gu014: frankly, if you don't have an idea what to do, there's no way i can explain all that through irc. anyway, if you try anything, i'd guess you're better off with knoppix then with damn small linux, mainly because it comes with more stuff
[07:48] <soundray> Lasse: please proofread -- I haven't tried this out
[07:48] <bipolar> does anyone here have a laptop with a radeon 9000 driving a 1920x1200 external display?
[07:49] <dv_> hello
[07:49] <adaran> gu014: safest thing to do is to just backup what you have, then wipe. but have you tried booting a windows XP (i'm assuming it's an XP system) cd?
[07:49] <soundray> bipolar: is this a survey?
[07:49] <gu014> adaran,ExxKa, i have no important info on the HD as of yet so, i guess i will have to wait for the reinstallation DVDs from IBM :(
[07:49] <kichigai> Good lord! ATi 9000 at 1920x1200? That's... wow.
[07:49] <bipolar> soundray: heh... no. I have this setup and I'm trying to get the full res out of it.
[07:49] <Lcarsdata> do i need to use a 64 bit operating system if i have a 64 bit processor. I cannot find any info on the net about this topic. thanks in advanced.
[07:49] <gu014> adaran, i have tried recovery console from a windows xp cd..but it does not allow me to access the drive as it tells me my password is incorrect..
[07:49] <Lasse> soundray: one problem .... dont know why but im no longer allowed to sudo
[07:49] <bipolar> kichigai: I know it can do it :)
[07:49] <adaran> gu014: ah, so you're not looking to recover, mainly to install? and you're in trouble because you don't have a windows CD, but only a "recovery partition" ?
[07:50] <kichigai> bipolar: yeah, but maybe not too well.
[07:50] <leroutier> Hello
[07:50] <kichigai> So, no one with experience with Beryl?
[07:50] <adaran> gu014: if you're not looking to recover any data, it should be much easier =). just what exactly do you have and what do you want to install?
[07:50] <bipolar> kichigai: in fact, in XP it can do both the 1400x1050 *AND* the external 1920x1200 display at the same time.
[07:50] <adaran> kichigai: what do you want to know?
[07:50] <Lasse> soundray: test is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:50] <kichigai> bipolar: Well, I'm aware of that, but you better not be trying to do too much 3D with it.
[07:50] <Askar> Hi! How do I update to feisty with the updatemanager?
[07:50] <soundray> bipolar: then you need to say something like 'I'm running an external display on card XY currently at 800x600 -- it should run at 1920x1200 -- how do I fix this?'
[07:51] <Lasse> soundray: so im getting snitched on by myself hehe
[07:51] <soundray> bipolar: then someone will ask ubotu to tell you about fixres
[07:51] <bipolar> kichigai: no. even at 600x480 opengl sucks :P
[07:51] <bipolar> soundray: HAHA
[07:51] <soundray> ubotu, tell bipolar about fixres
[07:51] <PriceChild> !feisty > Askar (see the pm from ubotu)
[07:51] <kichigai> adaran: I'm following a guide to install Beryl on my friend's laptop.
[07:51] <runelind> how do I get broadcom support with wpa_supplicant?
[07:51] <adaran> Askar: i can only guess, but i'd assume by changing your apt sources to a feisty repository. however, if you have to ask that question, you may want to wait for the official release.
[07:51] <whatspy> yet another shell script question: how to: "run python script X, then, depending on the value returned by X, do THIS or THAT"
[07:51] <whatspy> ?
[07:51] <vox754> Dr_willis, One way to realize this is running the same applications on both OSes. On Windows Azureus is really neat, but in Ubuntu it looks cramped. Now that I set 82 dpi, Azureus looks better but the borders are still big. Does this have to do with the general GNOME desktop environment? Because so far, themes-aside, the Windows ME desktop seems more configurable then GNOME.
[07:51] <runelind> I tried -D broadcom and it said it wasn't supported
[07:51] <adaran> kichigai: that's tricky. mainly because there's a million guides out there and all try to do things differently. =)
[07:52] <leroutier> got a systematic kernel panic  with feisty (when webcam is plugged/uvcvideo driver loaded), where to report it ?  (but in launchpad)
[07:52] <kichigai> adaran: It's the buide at UbuntuGuide.org
[07:52] <bipolar> soundray: the problem is, I'm no noob, and I've tried a lot of thing to get this to work. I'm in the middle of reinstalling fglrx to see if it works in feisty.
[07:52] <gu014> adaran, i need to reinstall....i have no reinstallation dvd
[07:52] <kichigai> adaran: I've got it installed, but it doesn't quite run right.
[07:52] <gu014> adaran, and i can not access their recovery partition
[07:52] <soundray> Lasse: run 'su - lasse', then you should be able to sudo
[07:52] <adaran> whatspy: help if
[07:52] <adaran> whatspy: man test
[07:52] <kichigai> adaran: I'd get a screenshot, but, well, you know.
[07:52] <Lasse> soundray:  :) gotcha
[07:53] <adaran> gu014: i'm afraid you're somewhat out of luck then. how does the recovery partition usually work?
[07:53] <soundray> bipolar: apologies, but your question sounded extremely noobish ("anyone...")
[07:53] <bipolar> soundray: I am going over that page though. maybe it has something I missed :)
[07:53] <adaran> kichigai: describe "doesn't run right" =)
[07:53] <soundray> bipolar: go to #ubuntu+1 to ask about feisty please
[07:53] <bipolar> soundray: I try to sound helpless so I get sympithy :)
[07:53] <gu014> adaran, when it boots i press some key and it asks if i would like to boot to the rescue and recovery...i select that option and it just goes to that black screen
[07:53] <bipolar> soundray: I will. my main attempt was in edgy though.
[07:53] <kichigai> adaran: Colorspace gets thrown all out of wack, with each color channel splayed across the screen diagonally, slightly off from the others. The only thing that looks right is the cursor.
[07:53] <Lcarsdata> do i need to use a 64 bit operating system if i have a 64 bit processor. I cannot find any info on the net about this topic. thanks in advanced.
[07:54] <kichigai> Lcarsdata: you don't.
[07:54] <gu014> adaran, bla...i would like to just install ubuntu...but, dunno if i can
[07:54] <adaran> gu014: if it runs anything similiar to a bootloader itself, you could try installing grub and running it with that - however, i have no idea on how to do that. if it just copies back an image, you could try mounting the recovery partition and copying the image with dd
[07:54] <lamego> Lcarsdata, and you shouldn't if you are not an experienced user
[07:54] <kichigai> Lcarsdata: you can run 32-bit, but you'll get better performance with a 64-bit encironment.
[07:54] <Lcarsdata> ok thanks kichigai
[07:54] <eck> Lcarsdata: for a desktop, you're much better off using 32 bit
[07:54] <erUSUL> Lcarsdata: you can use both versions
[07:54] <kichigai> Lcarsdata: just remember: if you're running 32-bit OS, 64-bit programs may not work.
[07:54] <adaran> kichigai: hmm... are you use XGL?
[07:54] <Lcarsdata> ok,
[07:54] <Lcarsdata> thanks all
[07:54] <Lcarsdata> bye
[07:54] <kichigai> adaran: I believe so.
[07:55] <soundray> bipolar: in my experience, the questions that fetch the best answers are 'I'm trying this and that, but I hit this and that snag -- how to fix?' If you've read docs, mention which ones.
[07:55] <adaran> gu014: oh, if all you want to do is install ubuntu, just insert an ubuntu CD and tell the installer to use the whole harddrive for the installation
[07:55] <adaran> gu014: it'll wipe everything on that drive (including the recovery partition)
[07:55] <bipolar> soundray: I'll do that next time. thanks. :)
[07:55] <adaran> kichigai: normal X works, however?
[07:55] <gu014> adaran, i know..i would like to..but, i dunno if i want to run my work stuff in vmware...
[07:56] <kichigai> adaran: Yes. I'm restricting the system to execute beryl ONLY on my command.
[07:56] <adaran> gu014: well, you are somewhat... screwed. mainly because you do not have a "real" windows CD - "rescue/recovery" CDs are a pest
[07:56] <gu014> adaran, if vmware had something similiar to parallels i would be more inclined :)
[07:56] <fghj> what flag do I want to check for in /proc/cpuinfo to see if my amd chip has virtualization extension support?
[07:56] <livingdaylight> is it 192.168.1.1
[07:56] <adaran> kichigai: and it works before beryl is running?
[07:56] <kichigai> adaran: yes.
[07:56] <adaran> gu014: what's the difference between vmware and parallels (or rather, which feature are you missing?)
[07:56] <gu014> adaran, i really like the coherence feature
[07:56] <adaran> kichigai: see if another opengl appplication works fine on XGL
[07:57] <adaran> gu014: what's that doing?
[07:57] <soundray> fghj: svm according to google ;)
[07:57] <kichigai> adaran: the GL screensavers function.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> vox754,  gnome isent really designed to be uber-configurable.. of course i use kde.. so try them all out.. use what you like.
[07:58] <gu014> adaran, http://lifehacker.com/software/parallels/hack-attack-how-to-run-windows-and-mac-apps-sidebyside-with-parallels-221002.php
[07:58] <adaran> kichigai: hmm in that case, where'd you get beryl from? source? packages?
[07:58] <fghj> soundray: what terms did you gogole for?
[07:58] <adaran> gu014: can't browse, i'm on a console and not a big lynx user. but i'm guessing it lets you display "just the window" of a windows application like it was a mac program?
[07:58] <soundray> fghj: proc cpuinfo virtualization extension
[07:58] <fghj> got it; thanks;
[07:58] <gu014> adaran, indeed
[07:58] <adaran> gu014: well, sorry, nothing like that available. the closest you can get is wine
[07:59] <adaran> gu014: but your mileage may vary.
[07:59] <adaran> gu014: virtualbox is a bit better then vmware (mainly because it doesn't cost anything)
[07:59] <adaran> gu014: but doesn't have the feature you need
[07:59] <vox754> Dr_willis, yes sir. I didn't use KDE because the Kubuntu CD didn't got my video correctly. I can of course install it now, but I simply don't feel like it. What if something breaks? I'll leave that for another day.
[07:59] <adaran> gu014: as for your system, i'd suggest you either get windows CD (maybe you can just download one and use the key provided with your OEM license?)
[07:59] <gu014> adaran, i will just install ubuntu in the meantime...give virtualbox a shoit until the dvd arrives...
[07:59] <kichigai> adaran: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org (their Ubuntu package repository)
[08:00] <Cc2iscooL> Does anyone have an idea as to why I would lose my laptop's "mouse wheel" function of the touch pad when the computer returns from hibernate mode? If I reboot the machine it works again.
[08:00] <Dr_willis> vox754,  ubuntu and kubuntuy should both set up the vidoes the same.. You can always install 'kubuntu-dekstop' and have the full kubuntu system as well.
[08:00] <adaran> gu014: well, if you partition by hand, you can just leave a bit of space for a windows partition, in case you get a real windows CD later on - that way, you won't have to erase your ubuntu install (as the recovery CD will most likely do)
[08:00] <adaran> gu014: however, you'll need to reinstall the bootloader then later (grub), because windows is rather selfish when it comes to the master boot record
[08:00] <exerd> when i boot up from ubuntu cd it hangs with a black screen. how come?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> vox754,  ive not had many things 'break' :) compared to the disasters ive had with windows.. linux is rock solid.
[08:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byeee
[08:01] <kichigai> vox754: once something works, it won't break on its own.
[08:01] <adaran> kichigai: frankly, i have no idea, you could just try that other WM...
[08:02] <gu014> adaran, yeh, that sounds like a good idea...i wish i could just dual boot with ubuntu and mac...but, i have no luck with that
[08:02] <ikaruga> Hi... all I would like to install qt4 so that I can install ktoon from source... is there a guide for qt4 on ubuntu?
[08:02] <adaran> gu014: oh, i do that on this machine.
[08:02] <adaran> gu014: you have a mac? x86 or ppc?
[08:02] <gu014> adaran, well, i have a macbook at home...i would like to install the JAS on this lenovo laptop
[08:02] <gu014> adaran, but i have not been successful
[08:02] <adaran> gu014: JAS?
[08:02] <Street_Racer> hello :)
[08:03] <kichigai> brb
[08:03] <adaran> kichigai: maybe give compiz a shot, see if it has the same issues. might tell you something
[08:03] <gu014> adaran, 10.4.8, with the jas patch or whatever it is
[08:03] <gu014> adaran, can i msg you?
[08:03] <soundray> !info libqt4-core | ikaruga
[08:03] <ubotu> ikaruga: libqt4-core: Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1144 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[08:03] <adaran> gu014: no. at least not now, i'm using irssi and i have no idea how to read privmsgs
[08:03] <adaran> gu014: i'll be back in a minute
[08:03] <Street_Racer> can someone who knows more stuff about linux/ubuntu prv me and give me some advicez because i'm new to this kind of stuff
[08:04] <erUSUL> !anyone
[08:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:04] <adaran> gu014: allright
[08:04] <soundray> ikaruga: run 'apt-cache search qt4' and install the packages that seem appropriate
[08:04] <exerd> i get to the boot meny when starting up with ubuntu cd but when i choose "start or install" i get a black screen and get no further. i have live cd 6.10 and amd 64 dualcore. what could be wrong? i get no errormessage,
[08:04] <adaran> gu014: now you can
[08:04] <soundray> !faq > Street_Racer
[08:04] <soundray> !cli > Street_Racer
[08:04] <ikaruga> soundray: I've tried that before but that did not work on Dapper.... now that I"m running 6.10....will that work?
[08:05] <Street_Racer> well.. thanks... i guess :(
[08:05] <francois> i started a program and no tray icon appeared, how can i bring it in focus again?
[08:05] <DeL3e7> alt tab?
[08:05] <adaran> gu014: if you're still there, that is...
[08:05] <gu014> adaran, i msged u
[08:05] <francois> DeL3e7: no, its minimised
[08:05] <bisita> quit
[08:06] <kichigai> Anyone else besides adaran has experience with Beryl?
[08:06] <francois> DeL3e7: it like just disapeared, but i can hear it running
[08:06] <soundray> ikaruga: why should it not? I've obviously no idea what might have gone wrong when you tried before.
[08:06] <francois> kichigai: sure, what do you need, maybe i can help
[08:06] <PriceChild> kichigai, #ubuntu-effects
[08:06] <adaran> gu014: is your nick registered? =)
[08:06] <gu014> adaran, no, one sec
[08:06] <Cc2iscooL> Why do I lose my laptop's "mouse wheel" function of the touch pad when the computer returns from hibernate mode? If I reboot the machine it works perfectly again, but every time I return from hibernate mode I lose the function of the mouse wheel.
[08:06] <kichigai> PriceChild: thanks!
[08:06] <adaran> gu014: i just tried to msg you, freenode told me i couldn't because i'm a mean and evil spammer (or rather, not registered)
[08:07] <ikaruga> soundray: well, will give it a whirl
[08:07] <adaran> gu014: come to the channel #adaran
[08:08] <soundray> Cc2iscooL: perhaps you can save the configuration with something like gsynaptics or tpconfig and restore it after resuming.
[08:09] <tenco> someone here who can help me debug suspend to ram?
[08:10] <soundray> !elaborate > tenco
[08:10] <Cc2iscooL> soundray: How might I go about doing such? I've just installed Ubuntu the other day here, so I'm still learning my way around it. I use hibernate mode quite a bit (and I like my mousewheel) so you can see my dilemma. :)
[08:10] <soundray> Cc2iscooL: okay...
[08:11] <soundray> Cc2iscooL: have you worked out how to install extra software packages yet?
[08:11] <sigger> anyone tell me why I get this when I try to install QT?  make: g++: Command not found   I do have make.
[08:11] <eck> sigger: g++ is the command that is not found
[08:11] <skroll> If doing an Ubuntu server install, after installing cupsys, and most of the drivers, what is required to get cups to be able to detect connected usb printers?  all my cupsd detects is 'beh'
[08:11] <Cc2iscooL> soundray: Via Synaptic?...A tad.
[08:11] <soundray> sigger: have you got build-essential?
[08:11] <eck> sigger: try getting the build-essential package
[08:12] <erUSUL> sigger: install build-essential (btw why don't you use the packaged versions)
[08:12] <sigger> k, thanks guys. lemme try
[08:12] <sigger> heh, didn't know there was a packaged version.  for doing dev?
[08:12] <tenco> i removed modules ehci_hcd ohci_hcd 8139too 8139cp usbhid with modprobe -r, still hangs on suspend, got the following through pm_trace: hash matches device ptya2 & hash matches device PNP0C0F:07  and i don't know how to find out which device that is
[08:12] <tenco> s/suspend/resume/
[08:12] <Artemis3> sigger, install build-essential
[08:12] <soundray> Cc2iscooL: synaptic is a good way. Find and install gsynaptics, and see if you find it reasonably intuitive (I haven't used it myself)
[08:12] <eck> sigger: almost all of the packages have a development version that you can get with package_name-dev
[08:13] <eck> sigger: try libqt4-dev
[08:13] <tenco> hmm
[08:14] <tenco> seems not :-\
[08:14] <soundray> tenco: the most common reason for
[08:14] <soundray> tenco: hey, have some patience
[08:14] <tenco> soundray: ok :)
[08:14] <soundray> tenco: how fast do you think I can type?
[08:14] <Cc2iscooL> soundray: I can't seem to find that specific package in the Synaptic Package Manager.
[08:15] <soundray> Cc2iscooL: enable the universe repo. Ubotu has more advice:
[08:15] <soundray> !universe > Cc2iscooL
[08:15] <soundray> tenco: the most common reason for suspend/resume not working is a faulty ACPI
[08:16] <tenco> soundray: it worked one time..
[08:16] <soundray> tenco: specifically the DSDT. Repairing it is possible, but can be difficult. Just checking it is not that hard.
[08:16] <tenco> soundray: and i thought most common reason were drivers, drivers, drivers
[08:16] <sigger> eck ok installed libqt4-dev and qt4-doc for good measure
[08:16] <soundray> tenco: no, no, no
[08:16] <tenco> soundray: tried that already, only one warning
[08:16] <soundray> tenco: DSDTs, DSDTs, DSDTs
[08:17] <eck> sigger: great, that should give you all the qt headers so you can compile qt-based applications
[08:17] <soundray> tenco: okay, then you might as well continue with the drivers. Are you going through /etc/default?
[08:17] <tenco> soundray: check http://lca2007.linux.org.au/talk/54
[08:18] <tenco> soundray: no, echo -n mem > /sys/power/state on bare console
[08:18] <soundray> tenco: yeah, whatever, I have my experiences, and I'm not the one seeking help ;)
[08:18] <exerd> anyone running live cd 6.10 with ati radeon x700? cause i get black screen when loading the live cd
[08:18] <soundray> tenco: I mean, disabling drivers via /etc/default/acpid
[08:18] <kazim59> so... who's gonna answer the most silly question? How do I replace all comma (,) by newlines in VI editor?
[08:19] <kazim59> the %s command
[08:19] <eck> kazim59: :%s/,/\n/g
[08:19] <eck> i think
[08:19] <tenco> soundray: i unloaded them manually with modprobe -r (or through a shell script...)
[08:19] <sigger> eck ok, stupid question.  now where do I find all that stuff I DL'ed e.g. the qt4-doc stuff?
[08:19] <kazim59> eck: not working... inserts ^@ at commas
[08:19] <eck> sigger: documentation usually goes to /usr/share/doc/
[08:20] <tenco> soundray: anyway, do you know how i can find out what device PNP0C0F:07 is?
[08:20] <soundray> tenco: no... anyway, I think your problem is beyond #ubuntu -- maybe ##linux or some place where kernel developers hang out.
[08:20] <leafw> did anyone overcame the sleep/resume issues on a thinkpad T60 ?
[08:20] <eck> kazim59: i'm not sure then, ask on #vim
[08:20] <tenco> soundray: k
[08:20] <GrueMaster> Anyone online that knows what packages to install to buid a driver in 6.06?
[08:20] <kazim59> #vim... great didnt know about it
[08:21] <erUSUL> GrueMaster: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[08:21] <eck> sigger: and obviously the headers are somewhere in /usr/include/
[08:21] <leafw> GrueMaster : man apt-get  to see how to auto-install all dependencies for a package, such as all *-dev packages
[08:21] <eck> although gcc/g++ should be able to find them without any work on your part, if you have the correct #includes
[08:21] <s3booo> hi all! which driver from nvidia site is best for geforce 2 mx400?
[08:21] <^^CatTuX^^> kazmim59 what;s the problem?
[08:21] <erUSUL> !nvidia > s3booo
[08:21] <soundray> s3booo: if you're on ubuntu, stick with the packaged drivers to save you pain and tears.
[08:22] <bachor> do U know how to turn off some deamons
[08:22] <bipolar> soundray: can you tell ubotu to send me that link again please?
[08:22] <soundray> !nvidia > s3booo, read ubotu's private message please
[08:22] <soundray> bipolar: remind me
[08:22] <leafw> bachor : check /etc/init.d and the System/Administration/Services GUI
[08:22] <bipolar> soundray: resolution problems
[08:22] <soundray> !fixres > bipolar
[08:22] <s3booo> ok, thx
[08:23] <bipolar> soundray: thanks :)
[08:23] <soundray> !info bum > bachor, read ubotu's pm please
[08:23] <slacker_nl> !dvdrip
[08:23] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[08:23] <slacker_nl> !dvd ripping
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd ripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <slacker_nl> !dvd rip
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <soundray> !goodbotuse > slacker_nl
[08:23] <slacker_nl> ow  thnx :)
[08:23] <soundray> slacker_nl: try k9copy
[08:24] <sigger> eck, this sounds totally stupid but can't find the qt package stuff I DL'ed.  Going back to build-essential, etc.  (Really sounds like someone who ought to be programming with QT, huh?)
[08:24] <GrueMaster> thanks guys.  I'm helping a newb on a different chat.
[08:24] <kazim59> eck: Ctrl-V [Enter]  does the job
[08:24] <slacker_nl> soundray: do you use it?
[08:24] <soundray> slacker_nl: no, but my brother recommended it, and he's very critical ;)
[08:24] <slacker_nl> soundray: ahh, k thnx
[08:24] <danny> very quick question -- my gf is installing ubuntu on her second hard drive, with windows on her first drive
[08:25] <danny> will that just work, or will there need to be some hacking to get grub to install on the first drive?
[08:25] <soundray> !dualboot > danny, please read ubotu's pm
[08:25] <carlosqueso> danny, should just work
[08:25] <soundray> danny, it should just work
[08:25] <danny> gotcha thanks!
[08:25] <slacker_nl> hehe, soundray, educating ppl about the bot? ;)
[08:26] <soundray> slacker_nl: some people come here and have never seen a private message. Like I did a couple of years ago.
[08:27] <slacker_nl> soundray: ah that's a good one, I don't even have to join the channel in that case ;)
[08:28] <soundray> slacker_nl: yes, you can even swear at ubotu when it's just the two of you ;)
[08:28] <slacker_nl> soundray: Think I will do it
[08:28] <slacker_nl> rant at the bot that is
[08:28] <soundray> slacker_nl: no, please
[08:28] <neo_> fuck you
[08:28] <soundray> !botsnack
[08:28] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | neo_
[08:29] <ubotu> neo_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:29] <neo_> sorry
[08:30] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: That's the second time today neo_ has done that
[08:30] <neo_> are you an hacker,
[08:30] <soundray> Trying to make a name for himself :(
[08:30] <s3booo> i installed nvidia driver sh NV...... . run , how can i unistall this driver ?
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:31] <slacker_nl> lol
[08:31] <Gigi> Hi!  I was wondering if there is some software such a grammar corrector
[08:31] <colbert> Are there themes for XChat ?
[08:31] <slacker_nl> Gigi: ispell perhaps?
[08:32] <soundray> s3booo: see if it came with uninstall instructions. It should have made a backup of xorg.conf, check ls -lrt /etc/X11
[08:32] <neo_> est ce que quelq'un parle franais
[08:32] <erUSUL> !fr
[08:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:32] <devilsreject> hey what up all
[08:32] <Gigi> slaker_nl but it does only spelling... at least, how can I correct grammar with Oo
[08:32] <devilsreject> i gotta question
[08:32] <slacker_nl> Gigi: ahhh
[08:32] <devilsreject> its tellin me i need to manually edit somethin to do with my sypnatic pacakage
[08:33] <slacker_nl> Gigi: /join #openoffice.org - but seriously, you can download dictionaries for OOo
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> devilsreject: sources.list probably?
[08:33] <morpheusdreams> Hi there, I have just switched to Ubuntu from Windows XP. I have one hdd with 2 partitions (one for windows, one for ubuntu) I want to get rid of Windows now, is there any way to format the rest of the HDD to include it in my ubuntu partition?
[08:33] <devilsreject> soo its not lettin me do anything  when i try it through the interface version or the terminal versoin
[08:33] <slacker_nl> Gigi: lemme fire it up and check for a second
[08:33] <Gigi> ok slacker_nl thanks
[08:33] <devilsreject> tonyyarusso --- right on do u know what i need to do to my sources.list?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> !sources | devilsreject
[08:33] <ubotu> devilsreject: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:33] <adminx> Anyone know of a url with an HowTo on getting Bluetooth to work in Feisty (7.04) Trying to use my Motoroloa ht820 Bluetooth Headset.
[08:33] <PriceChild> adminx, #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> devilsreject: probably adding universe for something?  Not quite sure what you were trying to do.
[08:34] <devilsreject> universe is added
[08:34] <carlosqueso> morpheusdreams: you may be able to change the size of your ubuntu partition with gparted, but you could also just change your windows partition to ext3 and mount it somewhere
[08:34] <devilsreject> i added the correct repositroies and everything was going great
[08:34] <devilsreject> then all of a sudden it gave me that error
[08:34] <devilsreject> i was doing everything from terminal
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> devilsreject: could you !pastebin what you were doing and the error given?
[08:35] <morpheusdreams> carlosqueso how would i go about the second option?
[08:35] <Shaffox> my volume is muted when i boot, how can i change this ?
[08:35] <colbert> I have a Treo 650 Smartphone (bluetooth enabled), if I want to use it to transfer files to/from Ubuntu, is that all I need or is there additional hardware required ??
[08:35] <slacker_nl> Gigi: which language do you want to spellcheck?
[08:35] <devilsreject> yessir
[08:35] <Gigi> English
[08:35] <Cc2iscooL> Is there a way to change the sensitivity of a touchpad's tap (the left click tap function?) Right now it's much too sensitive so when I move the mouse I end up clicking 30 other things along the way. I looked in the mouse configuration but I couldn't find anything relating to that.
[08:35] <slacker_nl> Gigi: because spellchecking is at tools > spellcheck (aka F7)
[08:35] <Gigi> I must write large reports...
[08:36] <Gigi> slacker_nl my spelling is perfect.  I need grammar
[08:36] <carlosqueso> morpheusdreams, just unmount your windows partion, fire up gparted (you may have to install it) erase and format your windows partition to a linux file system
[08:36] <slacker_nl> ahhh
[08:36] <devilsreject> !pastebin
[08:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <morpheusdreams> carlosqueso ty :)
[08:36] <carlosqueso> np...if you need help mounting it later, let us knwo
[08:36] <slacker_nl> Gigi: I don't know then, maybe in #openoffice.org they will :)
[08:37] <devilsreject> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9503/
[08:37] <devilsreject> order # 9503
[08:37] <devilsreject> hehe
[08:37] <bachor> some good music player for terminal
[08:37] <Gigi> ok slacker_nl .  thanks for your help buddie!
[08:37] <slacker_nl> bachor: mplayer
[08:37] <Shaffox> my sound doesn't work, how can i fix this ? volume is up
[08:38] <s3booo> soundray: thx
[08:38] <slacker_nl> Gigi: yw :)
[08:38] <bachor> slacker_nl: in terminal ?
[08:38] <slacker_nl> bachor: yes sir
[08:38] <devilsreject> anyidea what i can do to fix this
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> devilsreject: run the dpkg thing with sudo as well
[08:39] <devilsreject> k
[08:39] <leon> hi all
[08:39] <whatspy> is it possible to perform a "ps" that returns only the PID's ?
[08:39] <bachor> slacker_nl: thanks i will try
[08:40] <jrib> whatspy: man ps, see the -o option
[08:40] <whatspy> oops sorry, that's not what I meant. I mean, a selective ps | grep | kill
[08:40] <slacker_nl> whatspy: ahh
[08:40] <slacker_nl> ps | grep whatever | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill
[08:40] <jrib> whatspy: use pkill instead
[08:40] <whatspy> like, kill all processes whose name include "test_web_server.py"
[08:40] <whatspy> ah!?
[08:40] <whatspy> awk...
[08:40] <devilsreject> does it take a long time for this to update
[08:41] <PiNE> i am have sound for music ((mp3, ogg) but not for video (avi), i did yesterday but for some reason it isn't working now-- what should i do?
[08:41] <devilsreject> its stuck on updating line
[08:41] <whatspy> jrib: sounds good... sounds strangely like what I've been trying to do...
[08:41] <whatspy> so awk can extract submatches ???
[08:42] <slacker_nl> whatspy: sorry, don't fully understand you
[08:42] <devilsreject> update imitramfs: Generating boot/initrd.img
[08:42] <nacer> feisty is very impresive
[08:42] <jrib> whatspy: that command just grabs the second field.  Like 'cut'.  awk can do a lot more
[08:43] <slacker_nl> true
[08:43] <rinseout> is there a recommended password wallet application? i just realised that gaim stores passwords in the clear.
[08:43] <PiNE> to be more accurate: programs like totem, mpayer and vlc do not have sound no matter what format (mp3, avi) and rhythmbox does.  how can i get the sound back in totem?
[08:43] <coxande> anybody know if new feisty beta out today ?????
[08:44] <PriceChild> coxande, #ubuntu+1 and no I don't think so
[08:44] <adrian_> Hello
[08:44] <whatspy> jrib: thx a lot, I had been searching for quite a while
[08:44] <Sergo> coxande it will be out in April
[08:44] <coxande> PriceChild: thx
[08:44] <adrian_> I'm trying to install envy but having some problems
[08:44] <francois> !envy
[08:44] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:44] <brombomb> Does anyone know where beryl redme docs are located?
[08:45] <jrib> brombomb: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/ ?
[08:46] <adrian_> I got the message: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant.
[08:46] <jrib> adrian_: do you have universe enabled?
[08:46] <adrian_> any1 know what the problem means?
[08:46] <adrian_> i don't know
[08:46] <GenNMX> Is there a utility I can use to check what horizontal sync X is using for my monitor? As my monitor only tells me vertical refresh.
[08:46] <jrib> !universe | adrian_
[08:46] <ubotu> adrian_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:47] <adrian_> what's universe?
[08:47] <Dewni> evening
[08:48] <jrib> adrian_: click on the links ubotu just gave you, lots of info there
[08:48] <bachor> how to turn of Xorg ?
[08:49] <jrib> bachor: temporarily or you want it to not start when you boot?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> bachor: as in drop to a bare console?  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:49] <bachor> jrib: on boot
[08:49] <erisco> what is the ubuntu quiz channel again?
[08:49] <jrib> bachor: system > administration > services  disable the graphical login window
[08:50] <jrib> erisco: #ubuntu-trivia
[08:50] <erisco> jrib, thanks!
[08:50] <GenNMX> bachor: Hit ESC real quick to bring up Grub and select Recovery Mode
[08:50] <khalsa> Hi, can someone help me with the last step of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:50] <khalsa> I'm on the installation screen (language selection)
[08:50] <carlosqueso> khalsa, what's the problem?
[08:51] <badagentx> How do I enable ssh access to my machine?
[08:51] <rinseout> what is revelation "unsupported"?
[08:51] <rinseout> er, why?
[08:51] <jrib> !ssh | badagentx
[08:51] <ubotu> badagentx: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:52] <adrian_> jrib: I have universe enable now
[08:52] <manu_> peewee
[08:52] <jrib> adrian_: ok, do you still get the same error?
[08:53] <adrian_> jib yes
[08:53] <jrib> adrian_: what is the output of this command:  apt-cache policy module-assistant
[08:54] <badagentx> I'm getting a broken package error when I try to install openssh-server
[08:54] <khalsa> carlesoriol, when I do the last step, i get: mount: Mounting /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /cdrom failed: Invalid argument
[08:54] <jrib> badagentx: pastebin your command, the full output, and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <carlosqueso> khalsa...did you wait until it complained about the cd-rom not being there?
[08:55] <khalsa> no
[08:55] <whatspy> my | long | very | long | piping | command | with | args | everywhere : how can I insert line jumps in such a shell script while keeping it working ?
[08:55] <khalsa> should I?
[08:55] <carlosqueso> try to keep going with the installation until it complains that you don't have a cd rom
[08:55] <khalsa> ok
[08:55] <whatspy> it's harder to read when it's all stuck together
[08:56] <ZenithDK> hi, does someone know of a problem where booting ubuntu takes a really long time, while it is waiting with the message "checking if image is initramfs" ?
[08:57] <SauLus> How can I fix a error while compiling being:"/usr/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/bin/../lib/libpfdu.so.5, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 - ERROR FOO undefined reference to BAR ?
[08:57] <ZenithDK> it just stops at that for about a minute or two while doing nothing, and then it suddenly continues
[08:57] <adrian_> jrib: the output was installed: (none)
[08:57] <jrib> adrian_: full output
[08:57] <jrib> !paste | adrian_
[08:57] <ubotu> adrian_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:57] <badagentx> The error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9505/
[08:57] <khalsa> carlesoriol, ok it's asking for cd, did those steps again, same error
[08:58] <khalsa> carlesoriol, how can I make sure that sda1 is the USB stick
[08:59] <carlosqueso> khalsa, go to the console and type sudo fdisk -l
[08:59] <carlosqueso> you should see your usb stick
[09:00] <khalsa> "-sh: sudo: not found
[09:00] <adrian_> jrib: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9506/
[09:00] <EciL> hi all
[09:00] <carlosqueso> hmmm...then just try fdisk -l
[09:01] <badagentx> My /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9507/
[09:01] <khalsa> =sh: fdisk: not found
[09:01] <jrib> adrian_: k, well module-assistant is definitely installable.  What if you 'sudo apt-get install module-assistant' and then try envy again?
[09:01] <carlosqueso> grr...I'm not sure then
[09:01] <jrib> badagentx: use my name or I'll probably miss what you say
[09:01] <badagentx> kk
[09:02] <Grifer> do linux work well with VIA's chipsets? I recall when I was interested on those last time around 2002 many cursed about how VIA doesn't give any kind of support
[09:02] <runelind> grrr, why does every howto insist on using the ndiswrapper
[09:02] <runelind> anyone know how to get broadcom support out of wpa_supplicant?
[09:02] <badagentx> It works better
[09:02] <khalsa> :-(
[09:02] <wastrel> does the root partition have to be a primary partition?
[09:03] <VII> jrib: Im a friend of adrian. I have a line after 500 that says " 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status". is that the problem maybe?
[09:03] <carlosqueso> because it's easier if your card's not already supported
[09:03] <runelind> I would've thought the native broadcom driver would be better than a hacked together windows driver
[09:03] <jrib> VII: nope
[09:03] <adrian_> jib: ok, done that
[09:03] <runelind> well it is supported now after I installed the firmware
[09:03] <wastrel> if not, why is the desktop cd installer complaining about "no root partition"
[09:03] <jrib> adrian_: you still get the same error?
[09:03] <runelind> but wpa_supplicant doesn't have broadcom support
[09:04] <PREMIUM93> Can anyone recommend a Trillian style AIM,MSN,Yahoo client that allows "name editing" and trillian's crisp style?
[09:04] <jrib> badagentx: apt-cache policy openssh-server
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> PREMIUM93: Gaim?
[09:05] <PREMIUM93> Gaim looks too game like
[09:05] <adrian_> jrib: that did the job, thanks a bunch!
[09:05] <jrib> adrian_: np
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> PREMIUM93: I think it's themable
[09:06] <wastrel> ah the installer is just confused <3
[09:06] <feiichi> hi.. i'm having difficulties with ndiswrapper.. I have the newest kernel and ndiswrapper-1.1
[09:06] <runelind> anyone know how to acquire broadcom support into wpa_supplicant?  or should I just use the hacky ndiswrapper?
[09:06] <PREMIUM93> tonyyarusso: what do you mean?
[09:06] <feiichi> and when I type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:06] <feiichi> it returns an error
[09:06] <feiichi> invalid argument
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> PREMIUM93: as in other "looks" for it.  Not entirely sure, but I thought I'd seen somethign of the sort
[09:06] <feiichi> in ndiswrapper.ko
[09:06] <mbac> i'm writing an application that wants to be able to load graphical images
[09:07] <mbac> right now my plan is to just write interfaces for libjpeg, libgif, libpng, etc.
[09:07] <PREMIUM93> tonyyarusso:  i c, ill take a look
[09:07] <mbac> is there something i could be using that'll do all that for me?
[09:07] <badagentx> jrib: the output of apt-cache policy openssh-server http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9508/
[09:08] <jrib> badagentx: sudo apt-get update    try again
[09:08] <mbac> actually, imlib, right?
[09:08] <lisapc> hello
[09:08] <lisapc> i installed xbuntu and runnung it now from vmware.  but when I load firefox un xbuntu, no internt is connected!  how I fix that?
[09:08] <jrib> badagentx: strike that, I missed the comments in your file.  Uncomment the security repos on the last two lines
[09:09] <jrib> badagentx: in /etc/apt/sources.list I mean
[09:09] <xtknight> lisapc: you may need to install VMware tools
[09:10] <lisapc> xtknight it actually says "you dont have VMware tools installed.  so thats needed for my ubuntu virtuam machine to connect using my boradband?
[09:10] <greff> What should I modify in /etc/ssh/ssh_config (the client configuration file) so that the client tries to authenticate via Kerberos?
[09:10] <greff> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10) with the default ssh-krb5 package. The SSH client version is:
[09:10] <greff> OpenSSH_3.8.1p1  Debian-krb5 3.8.1p1-10build1, OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006
[09:10] <xtknight> lisapc: it may be necessary, yes
[09:11] <lisapc> xtknight ok ty!  how I install the tools?
[09:11] <badagentx> Thanks jrib its installing now
[09:11] <jrib> badagentx: great
[09:12] <Grifer> hmm... zelda ocarina of time in vc, 1000 points. is it worth it?
[09:12] <|mkoala|> hello!
[09:12] <Grifer> oops wrong channel :D
[09:12] <xtknight> lisapc: i have never installed the Tools on Xubuntu.  the "VM->Install VMware tools" menu should get you started
[09:13] <lisapc> xtknight its opened up 2 pakcgaes.
[09:14] <xtknight> lisapc: try these instructions: http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=428969
[09:14] <|mkoala|> on ubuntu 6.10 is changed the boot sequence?
[09:14] <dustin> hey i neet help troubleshooting my sound
[09:15] <lisapc> xtknight ty
[09:15] <jrib> !upstart | |mkoala|
[09:15] <ubotu> |mkoala|: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:15] <badagentx> How do I tell my ip address if i'm useing wifi?
[09:15] <|mkoala|> thanks ubotu
[09:16] <dustin> never mind
[09:16] <zorglu_> !info rails
[09:16] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1 (edgy), package size 1734 kB, installed size 12920 kB
[09:17] <carlosqueso> badagentx....same way....ifconfig
[09:17] <Jamie> Hey anyone here that can give me a hand?
[09:17] <badagentx> kk
[09:17] <Grifer> what...? I swapped 64bit to 32bit and now that I want nvidia-settings through synaptic, it wants to remove nvidia-glx!
[09:17] <Grifer> that can't be right!
[09:18] <jrib> Grifer: nvidia-settings is included in nvidia-glx now, don't install that package (I think)
[09:18] <Grifer> hmm, can't find it in applications -> system tools where it is supposed to be
[09:18] <jrib> Grifer: can you run 'nvidia-settings' in a temrinal?
[09:19] <Grifer> jrib: yes
[09:19] <Grifer> so they are installed. great
[09:19] <badagentx> One more thing whats the port number for ssh?
[09:19] <JamieSOTH> i'm trying to edit a file in /etc/apt/sources.list   saying that root is the owner.. how can i ethier set the permission to my user so i can edit the file or log on as root to edit the file?
[09:20] <deiaccord> Is there any way to confirm which disk GRUB thinks is hd0? (I have /dev/hda and /dev/sda (sata). I am tryign to ensure grub loads on sda NOT hda
[09:20] <carlosqueso> badagentx 22 iirc
[09:20] <ubuntu> ?????????
[09:20] <Pici> JamieSOTH: use sudo to edit the file
[09:20] <jrib> !sudo | JamieSOTH
[09:20] <ubotu> JamieSOTH: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:20] <Pici> ubotu: can we help you?
[09:20] <Pici> ubuntu: can we help you too?
[09:20] <JamieSOTH> yes i did that but when i sudo as root i can't see anything in root no directory structure
[09:20] <deiaccord> I've set the bios boot priority to sda but still want to confirm before I trash my /hda (windows) boot record :)
[09:21] <Pici> JamieSOTH: How are you sudo-ing?
[09:21] <JamieSOTH> sudo -i
[09:22] <jrib> JamieSOTH: ok, and  nano /etc/apt/sources.list  doesn't work?
[09:22] <Pici> JamieSOTH: That'll take you from your current directory to /root , you'll need to renavigate to /etc/apt/ to edit the file
[09:22] <Xk2c_> nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:22] <JamieSOTH> no says can't find file
[09:22] <FLSimpsonKPT> does anyone know of an iPod Viewer / opener for general linux?
[09:22] <Pici> JamieSOTH: Or just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <jrib> JamieSOTH: copy and paste what you typed
[09:23] <jrib> Xk2c_: does nano break up lines without the -w?
[09:23] <Xk2c_> jrib: jap
[09:23] <BlackGrim1313> Hello all, i'm trying to install ubuntu in my laptop but i can't get past the DHCP install says it's not there
[09:23] <BlackGrim1313> how do if fix this problem?
[09:23] <Xk2c_> jrib: in default /etc/nanorc
[09:24] <jrib> Xk2c_: ah, thanks
[09:24] <Xk2c_> jrib: nope
[09:24] <JamieSOTH> thanxs pici sudo nano worked not sure why when sudo -i as root i can't see the files but meh that worked thanxs alot
[09:25] <GoldeNArX> hey guys
[09:25] <GoldeNArX> got this ubuntu box all up and running... now I want to tackle another project.
[09:25] <ikonia> and.......
[09:25] <shatrat> adopt a baby african\
[09:26] <GoldeNArX> I want to build a new box that will act as a router for network trunking
[09:26] <ikonia> ok
[09:26] <GoldeNArX> anyone have experience with that? or even ever got it to work?
[09:26] <ikonia> yes
[09:26] <ikonia> very straight forward
[09:26] <GoldeNArX> its the load balancing part of trunking I want to do as my house has 2 cable connections
[09:26] <lisapc> can somewone tell me how to get ubuntu running from vmware to connect using my broadband modem?
[09:26] <ubuntu> czesc
[09:27] <ikonia> GoldeNArX: thats unwise
[09:27] <mikefoo> Hey anyone know of a dns service that I can have http of hhost.domain.com forward to an ip:port? so I can host a personal website at home.. I think rr.com blocks incoming 80
[09:27] <GoldeNArX> ikonia ; ok, how so?
[09:27] <ikonia> GoldeNArX: not really best discussion for #ubuntu but surficed to say 2 connections = 2 ip addresses = trouble state maintainence and routing
[09:28] <Xk2c_> mikefoo: dyndns
[09:28] <mikefoo> it will do port also?
[09:28] <ikonia> no - its a dns service
[09:28] <Xk2c_> mikefoo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DynDNS
[09:28] <mikefoo> yes I have a dyndns account..
[09:28] <lisapc> i cant find any tutorial how to get xbuntu to use my broadband
[09:28] <Grifer> huly sheit, manu customization in gnome is deeep
[09:28] <Xk2c_> mikefoo: what are you missing then?
[09:29] <Pici> mikefoo: I think no-ip.com will do it, but I'm not suer and its not free
[09:29] <aragami> bonsoir :)
[09:29] <ikonia> mikefoo: this really isn't anything to do with ubuntu, you may want to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:29] <Grifer> quick, onwards to wmaker! (again)
[09:30] <bemawi> !wki droit commande
[09:30] <Pici> mikefoo: http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_dns/free_dynamic_dns.html
[09:30] <bemawi> !wki droits
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wki droits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <Symmetria> any south africans in here?
[09:30] <bemawi> cass ?
[09:30] <Symmetria> (or anyone from africa)
[09:30] <LjL> !offtopic
[09:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:30] <LjL> !english
[09:30] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:30] <ardchoille> Is the update for dvd+rw-tools broken ?
[09:30] <aragami> comme par hasard c'est cass :(
[09:31] <Pici> !fr | aragami
[09:31] <ubotu> aragami: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:31] <aragami> arf
[09:31] <Symmetria> (sorry the reason for the question was actually completely on topic)
[09:31] <aragami> merci ubotu :)
[09:31] <ubuntu> pierwszy raz odpalilem linuksa, co to za program, jakis GG,
[09:31] <LjL> !pl | ubuntu
[09:31] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:31] <Symmetria> Im looking for someone in africa who can test speeds of the .za mirror which I run (za.archive.ubutnu.com)
[09:32] <Industrial> if I do sudo rmmod pcspkr it is enabled again next boot..
[09:32] <Industrial> (its a laptop i cant unplug the damn speaker)
[09:32] <jacob> How do i setup nvidia in the xorg.conf to enable tv-out
[09:32] <jacob> to a high def pc
[09:33] <jacob> and then have seperate desktops
[09:33] <ikonia> jacob: tv out doesn't  output at HD quality
[09:33] <adrian_> where is a german channel
[09:33] <ikonia> jacob: without customisation
[09:33] <niyi> what command is it that gets the dependencies of a package?
[09:33] <erstazi> Industrial: are you trying to remove the system beep?
[09:33] <carlosqueso> !de | adrian _
[09:33] <ubotu> adrian _: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:34] <Tangee> i couldn't get beryl running at all until i tried installing from svn today...then it worked! (until I tried to change my cap images)...
[09:34] <jacob> i know i have an adaptor
[09:34] <Industrial> erstazi: yes, works fin on other distros :P
[09:34] <jacob> itsw a 7300 gt
[09:34] <Industrial> fine*
[09:34] <Tangee> then it stopped loading with these errors
[09:34] <Tangee> libberylsettings: Couldn't get vtable from '/usr/lib/beryl/libwallpaper.so' plugin
[09:34] <ralfx> How can I see the dependancies of a package?
[09:34] <Tangee> libberylsettings: dlopen: /usr/lib/beryl/libbench.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:34] <erstazi> Industrial: Go to System \ Preferences \ Sound and click the System Beep tab.
[09:34] <jacob> ikona
[09:34] <ikonia> jacob: yes
[09:34] <jacob> ikona: i have an adaptor
[09:34] <Industrial> thanks
[09:34] <Tangee> anyone know how to fix these errors?
[09:35] <Tangee> ive tried uninstalling/purging and reinstalling...
[09:35] <Tangee> no joy
[09:35] <ikonia> jacob: adaptor to what
[09:35] <jrib> ralfx: apt-cache depends PACKAGE_NAME
[09:35] <aorthr33> Is it normal to have to restart Ubuntu after installing updates?
[09:35] <adrian_> ubotu: danke!!
[09:35] <jacob> ikona: and it worked before i just forgot how to
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about danke!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <ikonia> tangee you have a missing library -
[09:35] <Marco3> How will ubuntu (standard) run on a 800mhz intel celeron with 128mb of ram?
[09:35] <ikonia> jacob: no idea
[09:35] <erstazi> aorthr33: yes
[09:35] <carlosqueso> ralfx packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <jacob> ikona: to hd up to 1080p  its like a svideo thing
[09:35] <ikonia> Marco3: bit low on ram
[09:35] <Tangee> but i didnt change anything...it just crashed and wouldnt start again
[09:35] <jrib> Marco3: GNOME might get sluggish, but you can try.  probably a good candidate for xubuntu
[09:35] <jacob> ikona: but it works rly good when i get it up and running at 1080i
[09:36] <aorthr33> erstazi: any reason why?   I thought linux wasn't supposed to need reboots?
[09:36] <ikonia> tangee bottom line is it can't open that library - you need to find why
[09:36] <Marco3> jrib, xubuntu, is that something new?
[09:36] <jrib> Marco3: just ubuntu with xfce by default
[09:36] <ikonia> aorthr33: depends on the update
[09:36] <morpheusdreams> good evening, could someone help me with installing World of Warcraft?
[09:36] <jrib> !xubuntu | Marco3
[09:36] <ubotu> Marco3: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:36] <Tangee> ikonia: any idea what library? or how to find out why?
[09:36] <bachor> Marco3: i run xubuntu on 133Mhz with 128MB RAM
[09:36] <Marco3> jrib, ohh thanx.  nice bachor
[09:36] <carlosqueso> ralfx...or you can use apt-cache show
[09:36] <ikonia> tangee the error tells you the library name and path
[09:36] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: with cedega?
[09:37] <erstazi> aorthr33: some updates don't need reboots, but system critical updates do
[09:37] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft with Wine
[09:37] <jacob> ikona: ill pastebein what i think im doing, check it for me if u want
[09:37] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: dunno if WoW works with wine out of the box
[09:37] <ikonia> jacob: I don't know much about tv out
[09:37] <deiaccord> does anyone know how to confirm which disk GRUB thinks is hd0 when you have hda and sda?
[09:37] <Marco3> bachor, does it use 4.4 ?
[09:37] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft i've installed it but it doesnt seem to work very well
[09:37] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: i'm using cedega and it works great
[09:37] <ikonia> deiaccord: check the map file in /boot/grub
[09:37] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft do you have to pay for that one?
[09:37] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: yea $5/month
[09:37] <jacob> ok
[09:38] <ubuntu_> !nvidia > ubuntu_
[09:38] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft is it worth it?
[09:38] <bachor> Marco: i dont use the graphical desktop just terminal, but on your pc it should not be a problem
[09:38] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: depends on how much gaming you do
[09:38] <Tangee> usr/lib/beryl/libbench.so is a link to libbench.so.0.0.0 but i cant find it anywhere
[09:38] <alieas> I would like to upgrade my php4 to php5.  is it as simple as apt-get remove libapache2-mod-php4, and apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5?   Is removing the apache2-mod-php4 even necessary?
[09:38] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft you can use it for all kinds of windows apps?
[09:38] <Tangee> and /usr/lib/beryl/libwallpaper.so is there :(
[09:39] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: WoW is really the only game i play, and it's supported well b/c it's so popular
[09:39] <erstazi> Alieas: why upgrading to php5?
[09:39] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft sounds good, will go look into it :)
[09:39] <alieas> erstazi:  for object orientated coding
[09:39] <frojnd> what ftw means??
[09:39] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: so it's worth it for me...i spend a lot more than $5/month on beer/liquor so...
[09:39] <erstazi> alieas: php4 can run OOP also
[09:39] <zerokarmaleft> frojnd: for the win
[09:40] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft aye, it's not very much money so should be cool
[09:40] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: it's all relative
[09:40] <alieas> erstazi:  we are devloping flex2 over j2ee, but we need also to run php5, we would like to upgrade our development server ubuntu apache to use php5
[09:40] <frojnd> k
[09:41] <erstazi> alieas: let me google it real quick, I know the feeling about upgrading to PHP5, I would like to use the DOM package more often
[09:41] <fannagoganna> hi, where can i report installation bugs with Ubuntu 6.10?
[09:41] <fannagoganna> i am installing on the alternate CD, which does not detect my LVM2 configuration
[09:41] <carlosqueso> !bugs
[09:41] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:41] <fannagoganna> however, 6.06 alternate (both Ubuntu and Kubuntu) do
[09:41] <alieas> erstazi:  thanks for the help, we have php5 installed and running from command line, but I wanted to ask advice before installing the libapache2-mod-php5
[09:42] <ubuntu> czy ktos klika po polsku
[09:42] <deiaccord> I can't check /etc/grub for the map file as I'm installing from the live cd :(
[09:42] <erstazi> alieas: it shouldn't be a problem
[09:42] <erstazi> alieas: just make sure you back up but I am sure you already know that (:
[09:42] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: what realm do you play?
[09:42] <nexousNET> What can I NOT do on ubuntu-server that I can on ubuntu-desktop?
[09:43] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft used to be on Boulderfist now on Auchindoun
[09:43] <GoldeNArC> ooops had a crash
[09:43] <GoldeNArC> lol
[09:43] <GoldeNArC> who was helping me out with trunking and etc?
[09:43] <ubuntu> no i co ze dolaczylem, jak nikt nie odpisuje po polsku
[09:43] <nexousNET> Can I add/edit/delete files on server-edition? or do I have to move to the server?
[09:44] <ubuntu> haloo, o co tu chodzi
[09:44] <carlosqueso> !pl | ubuntu
[09:44] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:44] <ubuntu> jest tam kto
[09:45] <GoldeNArX> ikonia : you still around?
[09:45] <erstazi> nexousNET: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462043
[09:45] <andytayloruk> hi. is there any real point in installing beryl with a ati radeon 7500 16mb card?
[09:45] <ikonia> yes
[09:46] <GoldeNArX> ikonia : so you recomended not to do load balancing .. what was the reasoning behind that?
[09:46] <ikonia> I explained it
[09:46] <Askar> ImportError: Need mutagen >= 1.8
[09:46] <Askar> How to solve?
[09:46] <ikonia> I also explained it wasn't for this channel as it wasn't anything to do with ubuntu
[09:46] <kane77> Askar, install mutagen?
[09:46] <GoldeNArX> ikonia : I totally missed all of that
[09:46] <ubuntu> no dobra, jakt nikt nie rozumie po polsku to sam poszukam , co to ten linux
[09:46] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: my alliance characters are on sen'jin, horde on hellscream
[09:46] <Askar> kane77: I have : /
[09:47] <zerokarmaleft> morpheusdreams: did you take a free transfer or something?
[09:47] <ikonia> GoldeNArX: basiclly maintaining 2 dsl lines with different IP addresses made routing and state maintainence awkward, more so if you did nat or masqurading
[09:47] <kane77> Askar, the version it is asking? 1.8 or better
[09:47] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft no i rerolled in TBC with my crazy danish friends
[09:47] <Askar> kane77: Installed version in apt-get
[09:47] <Askar> dont know which one
[09:47] <Askar> 2.5 I think
[09:47] <whatspy> hm, is "sed 's/small/large/g' myFile" actually supposed to *save* it's changes in myFile ?
[09:48] <whatspy> I don't see any changes in the file after executing it
[09:48] <GoldeNArX> ikonia : I see, so is there a "good" way to do true load balancing with 2 seperate internet connects?
[09:48] <DigitalNinja> Can someone recommend a website that sells computer bags and carrying cases? I'v got a mini tower that I carry around with other extras. Cables, key board, switch etc...
[09:48] <DigitalNinja> I use it to show off Ubuntu
[09:48] <Thug-N-Me> anyone watching prison break ?
[09:48] <GoldeNArX> DigitalNinja : I'd sooner recomend a desktop pc
[09:48] <Askar> kane77:  1.7.1-0...how do I get newer version?
[09:48] <ikonia> GoldeNArX: as I said, its not for this channel's dicussion,but not really due to the complications I mentioned. Its not meant for home users really
[09:49] <kane77> Askar, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[09:49] <GoldeNArX> ikonia : gotcha .. you recomend a channel to go to?
[09:49] <ubuntu> czy naprqawde nikt nie klika po polsku
[09:49] <Askar> kane77: edgy
[09:49] <erstazi> DigitalNinja: Ebay or Google Search
[09:49] <ubuntu> co to znaczy, ze ktos mnie dolaczyl
[09:50] <erstazi> !pl | ubuntu
[09:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:50] <carlosqueso> !english | ubuntu
[09:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:50] <ubuntu> i po co. jak nikt nie odpisuje
[09:50] <sean> !german
[09:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:50] <ikonia> sorry no
[09:50] <sean> ?
[09:51] <kane77> Askar, hmm I cant find the mutagen 1.8
[09:51] <GoldeNArX> oki .. thx ikonia
[09:51] <kane77> !pl | ubuntu
[09:51] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:51] <Askar> kane77: me neither...
[09:51] <ubuntu> halo, czy jest tam jakis polak
[09:51] <erstazi> http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mutagen.html
[09:51] <bruenig> !english
[09:51] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> !pl | ubuntu
[09:51] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:52] <DigitalNinja> GoldeNArX: I have a desktop PC. That's the one I carry around. My laptop won't do beryl
[09:52] <carlosqueso> ubuntu, what language?!?
[09:52] <erstazi> Askar: try installing source
[09:52] <kcinna> hey all, wow it's been a long time since ive had an ubuntu problem
[09:52] <erstazi> carlosqueso: thats polish
[09:52] <ubuntu> polish, ok
[09:52] <GoldeNArX> DigitalNinja : I'm not sure if there are full fledged bags for desktop pcs available on the regular market.  I have seen "straps"
[09:52] <Askar> erstazi: kane77: Found a deb package..should I try that?
[09:52] <Kisom> Is there any way to make Ubuntu suspend a harddrive after a certain amount of time?
[09:52] <kcinna> azureus wants to update itself, but when i let it, it gives me a permission error. do i need to run the program as an admin or something?
[09:52] <carlosqueso> we gave you the site for that...none of us speak it
[09:53] <kane77> Askar, yes, is it for ubuntu?
[09:53] <bruenig> kcinna, is this repo azurues?
[09:53] <jacob> I need help with dual monitors
[09:53] <Sonderblade> which package contain the latex binary?
[09:53] <bruenig> s/azurues/azureus
[09:53] <sean> #twinview ?
[09:54] <erstazi> Askar: sorry, thought you couldn't find anything
[09:54] <jacob> Kinda
[09:54] <Askar> kane77: yay it worked!
[09:54] <Askar> erstazi: thanks anyway :D
[09:54] <kane77> Askar, cool
[09:54] <jacob> Well i want to be able to run my tv-out and dvi, and then have 2 seperate cubes on beryl
[09:55] <sadap> Some one work with beryl?
[09:55] <ubuntu> no i co, nikt nie zna polskiego
[09:55] <jacob> like 1 panel in each screen
[09:55] <erstazi> ubuntu: Rozmawiaj w jzyk polski kana: #ubuntu-pl
[09:55] <erstazi> sorry guys, had to find a translator
[09:55] <kcinna> bruenig, yes
[09:56] <sadap> who need the translator?
[09:56] <Askar> kane77: now I have to find musicbrainz...
[09:57] <erstazi> sadap: no one really needed one
[09:58] <niyi> how do you get frostiwre working
[09:58] <niyi> \i just installed but it was a no go
[09:58] <jrib> niyi: what does 'frostwire' in a terminal return?
[09:58] <wiseKi1> niyi: do you have the latest java version?
[09:58] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys, i'm trying to install wireless with ndiswrapper, and the forums suggest i need to "recompile the kernel with new GCC" - how do i do this?
[09:58] <niyi> gd point
[09:58] <niyi> i'll check how to update java
[09:59] <sadap> i want to fix the white screen on Beryl, some one have info?
[09:59] <niyi> command to get java?
[09:59] <jrib> sadap: #ubuntu-effects may be able to help
[09:59] <niyi> sudo apt-get java?
[09:59] <jrib> !java | niyi
[09:59] <ubotu> niyi: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:59] <denis_on_ubuntu>  i need to "recompile the kernel with new GCC" - how do i do this?
[10:00] <wiseKi1> !java
[10:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> i have ubuntu dapper 6.06 LTS
[10:00] <nomasteryoda|w> denis_on_ubuntu, might i ask why?
[10:00] <nomasteryoda|w> i have my reasons
[10:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> i am trying to install my wireless with ndiswrapper
[10:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> i got to the last stage
[10:00] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> typed in sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:01] <nomasteryoda|w> which card?
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> nvidia
[10:01] <mccm> zna ktos polski
[10:01] <jrib> !pl | mccm
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> oh wait
[10:01] <ubotu> mccm: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> no
[10:01] <vox754> kcinna, I had problems with azureus from the repositories. I removed it. Then installed "sun-java5-jre" and downloaded the .tar.gz for azureus from the SourceForge page. I haven't had a problem since.
[10:01] <nomasteryoda|w> er, nvidia makes wireless cards now?
[10:01] <erstazi> jrib: beat me to it
[10:01] <nomasteryoda|w> that is news
[10:01] <sadap> i use ATI
[10:01] <Jesset77> Does anyone else get "error 21" from grub at stage 1.5 after trying to install ubuntu?
[10:01] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> its a belcon or something
[10:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> it's not nvidia haha
[10:02] <kcinna> vox754: i'll try that, thanks
[10:02] <nomasteryoda|w> bcm ... usually you can just get the fwcutter and extract what you need ... then just put those files into the /lib/firmware folder
[10:02] <nomasteryoda|w> its what i do now... no ndiswrapper for me and my hibernate works .. but does not when i use ndiswrapper
[10:03] <denis_on_ubuntu> so what do i do now?
[10:03] <denis_on_ubuntu> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=514541
[10:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> ^ last post implies that recompiling the kernel with the new GCC helps
[10:04] <GigaClon> is there a way to peek at a .a file?
[10:04] <jrib> GigaClon: what do you mean by "peek"?
[10:04] <GigaClon> see what header files are there
[10:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> normaster?
[10:04] <priich> Kisom, yeah sure. Used to be in screensaver and/or power settings. Can't seem to find it there any more though. But there's always the hdparm command.
[10:05] <KDan> not really strictly ubuntu related, but anyone know of a way to wrap an imap into a pop? (other than setting up a fetchmail server or such)
[10:05] <ikonia> !nvidia >denis_on_ubuntu
[10:05] <Kisom> priich: Thanks, I just googled it and found the solution.
[10:05] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: follow that link, don't worry about re-compiling kernels etc etc
[10:05] <ikonia> GigaClon: no - its compiled code
[10:05] <priich> Kisom, cool. Did you find any simpler solution ?
[10:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> ikonia i have nvidia drivers installed
[10:06] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: whats the problem ?
[10:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> i want to install my wireless network card
[10:06] <Jesset77> KDan, "wrap an imap into a pop"? no. Is there a reason to not simply use a pop server, or forward the mail going to the imap server to a pop account instad?
[10:06] <karlheitz> hi everyone
[10:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> sorry about that
[10:06] <Kisom> priich: Nah, I used the dhparm command. Here's some info about it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179074
[10:06] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: sorry I must have missed the link, it took me to an nvidia question
[10:06] <eck> KDan: i think you need to use fetchmail/getmail/isync/whatever to download the mail and run a local pop server
[10:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=514541
[10:07] <denis_on_ubuntu> i have the same problem this person does
[10:07] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: you'll get better help on the ubuntu forums, as thats ubuntu focused rather than generic linux distros
[10:07] <priich> Kisom, heh found a better solution. laptop_mode
[10:07] <denis_on_ubuntu> i tried - there's little info on this
[10:07] <sacater> any perl programmers with a launchpad account please join #sacater for a chat
[10:07] <karlheitz> hi i'm not sure about your'e conversation rules inside here...but
[10:07] <Kisom> priich: Does it work even if it is not a laptop?
[10:07] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: then post a question on the forum
[10:07] <karlheitz> i just need a little help
[10:07] <priich> Kisom, can't think of why it wouldn't.
[10:07] <ikonia> karlheitz: ask the quesiton
[10:07] <ikonia> question
[10:08] <karlheitz> g
[10:08] <morpheusdreams> zerokarmaleft you still here?
[10:08] <Kisom> priich: Okay, I'll try it out when I have Ubuntu running. Thanks for the help.
[10:08] <GigaClon> how do i put two commands on the same line
[10:08] <ikonia> GigaClon: command1; command2
[10:08] <karlheitz> first im new to linux and trying since two days installing ubuntu
[10:08] <ikonia> karlheitz: ok
[10:08] <ikonia> karlheitz: ask the question
[10:08] <karlheitz> i read in the forum about making four partitions
[10:09] <karlheitz> one for /, /home,/boot and the swap
[10:10] <karlheitz> i produced those partitions
[10:10] <morpheusdreams> have just downloaded and installed Cedega. Am now going through the setup wizard and on clicking next on stage 2 it freezes.
[10:10] <karlheitz> but it just doesnt wor in the installer, to mount them
[10:10] <duckx0r> how do I use grep for 2 things? I want it to match either "INFECTED" or "Vulnerable"
[10:10] <ikonia> the installer doesn't mount them
[10:10] <karlheitz> the message is in german "kein root-dateisystem"
[10:10] <abasinisvacant> please help!  i just finished upgrading to edgy, but my 'desktop' disappeared!!!! i can't even open my home folder, can someone please help me?
[10:10] <grimboy> Alright, the weirdest thing just happened. The update manager insisted on doing a distribution upgrade to 6.10, but I'm already at 6.10.
[10:11] <ikonia> karlheitz: you have not set a root partition
[10:11] <ikonia> according to that message
[10:11] <karlheitz> that mens in engl
[10:11] <karlheitz> this partition is no root data system?
[10:11] <karlheitz> hm
[10:12] <ikonia> pretty much
[10:12] <karlheitz> aw
[10:12] <karlheitz> i wanted to mount them by myself
[10:12] <abasinisvacant> somebody?????
[10:12] <karlheitz> the mounting points menu
[10:13] <abasinisvacant> my folder won't open!!!
[10:13] <karlheitz>  sorry to much info at once
[10:13] <ikonia> the more you do !!!!! the more you're ignored
[10:13] <francois> abasinisvacant: whats your problem ?
[10:13] <abasinisvacant> francois, i can't open my home folder
[10:13] <francois> abasinisvacant: yelling out doesn't get you help
[10:14] <karlheitz> i set the right partition as root
[10:14] <erstazi> abasinisvacant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2205935
[10:14] <abasinisvacant> and my desktop is gone
[10:14] <abasinisvacant> i'm not yelling
[10:14] <ikonia> then don't do !!!!!
[10:14] <abasinisvacant> why does it matter?
[10:14] <ikonia> define my desktop is "gone"
[10:14] <francois> abasinisvacant: ok, using your browser ? or the command line ?
[10:14] <ikonia> it's just nice manners
[10:14] <abasinisvacant> my desktop is gone = everything is cleared, no icons
[10:15] <posingaspopular> abasinisvacant: gnome?
[10:15] <francois> abasinisvacant: ok, we need more
[10:15] <Askar> Hmm if I update to feisty, I also update a lot of programs? Is that right? =-O
[10:15] <KDan> eck: Jesset77: Cheers
[10:15] <ikonia> but you have a desktop - you've just not got icons
[10:15] <posingaspopular> or kde?
[10:15] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: can you ALT+F2 ?
[10:15] <karlheitz> i'm ignorde @ ikonia?
[10:15] <s3booo> hi all
[10:15] <ikonia> karlheitz: pardon ?
[10:15] <abasinisvacant> yes, but run what application?
[10:15] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: nautilus
[10:15] <francois> abasinisvacant: yeah, an update should update a lot of stuff
[10:15] <denis_on_ubuntu> IKONIA how do i make sure that ndiswrapper and the kernel have the same version? i think thats the problem
[10:15] <karlheitz> you said ...the more you do, the more...
[10:15] <francois> Askar: yeah an update will update tons of stuf
[10:16] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: well you should get both from the ubuntu repo's so - it shouldn't be a problem
[10:16] <grimboy> karlheitz, But he's stringent enough to have not ignored you yet.
[10:16] <abasinisvacant> i ran nautilus, and now it's updating 'bug buddy'
[10:16] <ikonia> karlheitz: that wasn't meant for you - sorry
[10:16] <francois> Askar: you should join ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[10:16] <grimboy> (or she)
[10:16] <grimboy> Oh
[10:16] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: there you go then
[10:16] <denis_on_ubuntu> well how do i check my linux kernel?
[10:16] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: nautilus is borked
[10:16] <karlheitz> ok im sorry
[10:16] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: why do you want to
[10:16] <ikonia> karlheitz: no - it was my fault.
[10:16] <francois> denis_on_ubuntu: '$uname -r'
[10:16] <abasinisvacant> ikonia, what did that do?
[10:16] <denis_on_ubuntu> bah, because i want to see if they kernel number is the same as the ndiswrapper version
[10:16] <s3booo> i installed nvidia driver from repo (nvidia legacy) and when i wrote sudo nvidia-xconfig i got sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[10:17] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: Do you have desktop icons now that nautilus is running?
[10:17] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: use the versions from the ubuntu repo's and you'll know they match
[10:17] <ikonia> ardchoille: it crashed
[10:17] <ardchoille> ouch
[10:17] <karlheitz> so you think have not set the right or maybe no partition as root?
[10:17] <abasinisvacant> ardchoille, i have no icons on my desktop, except for the two panels
[10:17] <ikonia> karlheitz: not sure - try mounting it from the livecd and checking
[10:17] <karlheitz> i m just using it
[10:17] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: nautilus manages the desktop (icons, wallpaper, etc) if it doesn't run, then your desktop will be blank.
[10:17] <erstazi> I need a smoke
[10:17] <karlheitz> i love it
[10:18] <denis_on_ubuntu> as in repositories in synaptic? how do i make sure they match though? will it automatically choose the one for my kernel?
[10:18] <karlheitz> but im to stopid
[10:18] <olrrai_> hi
[10:18] <erstazi> hi olrrai_
[10:18] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: the ubuntu teams make sure the package versions are compatible, just trust them
[10:18] <abasinisvacant> ardchoille, it still didn't do anything
[10:18] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: because nautilus is crashing
[10:18] <abasinisvacant> how can i fix, ikonia?
[10:18] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: you're going to have to figure out why nautilus won't run.
[10:19] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: don't know - log a bug as bug buddy already told you a bug had been submitted
[10:19] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: could be one of many things
[10:19] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: ALT+F2, type: gnome-terminal   and run nautilus from the term and see if there is any error output
[10:19] <abasinisvacant> like what?
[10:19] <ikonia> abasinisvacant: anything on your system
[10:19] <denis_on_ubuntu> hm, they do match :( i dont get it - i still have the same problem with modprobe
[10:20] <ikonia> ughhhh
[10:20] <nuno> hi
[10:20] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: did you attempt to get any packages from anywhere other than the ubuntu repo's
[10:20] <abasinisvacant> when i open terminal and type       nautilus   it doesn't do anything, and the prompt disappears
[10:20] <nuno> I need a simple information
[10:20] <ikonia> nuno: then ask for it
[10:20] <francois> nuno: sure
[10:20] <francois> nuno: ask
[10:20] <denis_on_ubuntu> i did "make install" for a version of ndiswrapper i downloaded from sourcefourge, but it kept giving me errors galore so i just used synaptic
[10:20] <nuno> I've installed an java app
[10:20] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: then you're screwed
[10:20] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[10:20] <nuno> and then executed
[10:21] <nuno> for a while
[10:21] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: you'd installed broke ndiswapper softare
[10:21] <ardchoille> abasinisvacant: that's not gonna help then, I was hoping it would,
[10:21] <nuno> in Ubuntu
[10:21] <nuno> but after I closed it
[10:21] <olrrai_> how to launch programs from one script.sh and dont wait to close?
[10:21] <denis_on_ubuntu> so how do i correct this then?
[10:21] <francois> nuno: what program ?
[10:21] <turner_> Hello
[10:21] <nuno> I can't find it
[10:21] <turner_> How would I go about installing SMP kernel?
[10:21] <nuno> to execute it again
[10:21] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: you didn't install as a package so you can't remove easy so you'll have to re-install
[10:21] <Viro> I have a problem :( I accidently hit my ubuntu box with my knee when trying to fix something behind the case, and the PC locked :( I rebooted it and after loading everything the machine shows me a fully loaded loding screen and LOCKS up on that screen... how do I troubleshoot? ( I can login in emergency mode )
[10:21] <ardchoille> Is the update for dvd+rw-tools broken recently?
[10:21] <eck> denis_on_ubuntu: if you're lucky you can make uninstall and reinstall the ubuntu version, but no bets
[10:21] <abasinisvacant> ardchoille,  wait, it says "couldn't get a file descriptor referrring to the console
[10:22] <abasinisvacant> when i try to open /home/
[10:22] <denis_on_ubuntu> have to reinstall what -> ndiswrapper?
[10:22] <denis_on_ubuntu> or the kernel?
[10:22] <ikonia> no  ubuntu
[10:22] <francois> Viro: seems that maybe your X is freezing
[10:22] <eck> Viro: try booting into single user mode
[10:22] <nuno> where does ubuntu save java app that we install?
[10:22] <denis_on_ubuntu> NOOOOOO i cant afford that at this point - lol it took me so long to configure just nvidia card and other thigns to work :(
[10:22] <denis_on_ubuntu> lol
[10:22] <Viro> eck, where do I switch that, etc/ ???
[10:22] <francois> nuno: how did you intstall it ? what did you install ? you need to be specific
[10:22] <eck> Viro: it's the rescue option in grub
[10:22] <karlheitz> ikonia  - i make another try;) im using the ubuntu live 6.10 i tried to instal it yesterday but it didnt work
[10:22] <abasinisvacant> hello?
[10:22] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: then next time follow information from ubuntu sources
[10:23] <ikonia> denis_on_ubuntu: rather then random website
[10:23] <nuno> the app name is PowerFolder
[10:23] <karlheitz> i made those partitions
[10:23] <Viro> ech, I don't think i have that option...
[10:23] <francois> nuno: how did you install it ?
[10:23] <Viro> eck, I just have rescue mode
[10:23] <Viro> eck :DDD
[10:23] <eck> Viro: well that's it :-)
[10:23] <Viro> eck, lol :) im in that mode ;)
[10:23] <olrrai_> how to launch programs from one script.sh and dont wait to close?
[10:23] <karlheitz> and i am at the moment in step five of the installin routine
[10:23] <nuno> and It automatic installed after I download a PowerFolder.jnlp file
[10:23] <Viro> eck, it boots allrigth im in the shell but I don't know what to do now
[10:23] <ikonia> olrrai_: join #bash
[10:23] <eck> Viro: now you get to go to work looking through log files :-)
[10:24] <Viro> eck, wher are the log files?
[10:24] <eck> Viro: you can also try switching to a higher runlevel, but it will probably lock up again
[10:24] <francois> nuno: how did you install it ?!?!?!?! i can't help you if you don't help yourself
[10:24] <eck> Viro: log files are in /var/log, the interesting ones would be /var/log/{messages,syslog,Xorg.0.log}
[10:24] <olrrai_> ok
[10:24] <nuno> francois I told already
[10:24] <Viro> aha
[10:24] <Viro> eck found em... ima check it out
[10:24] <nuno> I have download a file  PowerFolder.jnlp
[10:25] <eck> Viro: if you want to try to switch to a higher runlevel (i.e. go into the normal boot) you can try 'telinit 5'
[10:25] <karlheitz> i mounted my four partitions (1 swap and three ext3, one of them a primary and the other logical under an extended)
[10:25] <Viro> eck, sreens found but none have a usable configuration
[10:25] <crazy_penguin> good night to all
[10:25] <nuno> and after that it instaled automaticly
[10:25] <Viro> I know ;)
[10:25] <francois> nuno: if it installed, did you try running it in terminal ?
[10:25] <Viro> eck, I think I know what to do ! :)
[10:25] <nuno> I don't know how
[10:25] <eck> good :-)
[10:25] <Viro> eck, thank you man
[10:25] <francois> nuno: open a terminal, and type the name of the application you supposedly installed
[10:25] <nuno> I tried "java powerfolder"
[10:26] <nuno> bur nothing
[10:26] <francois> nuno: you can use tab to complete the name if you're not sure how to spell it,
[10:26] <francois> nuno: no java anything, just the name,
[10:26] <SnakesAndStuff> Is there anyway to fix the grainy startup ubunto loading screen?
[10:26] <francois> nuno: if its installed, it'll run
[10:26] <francois> SnakesAndStuff: grainy ?
[10:26] <nuno> yes, but it's a java app
[10:26] <francois> nuno: so ?
[10:26] <ardchoille> francois: Does tab completion work for apps installed to dirs which aren't in $PATH ?
[10:26] <nuno> it needs java runtime
[10:27] <SnakesAndStuff> francois: Yeah, the colors are odd and it's grainy...  almost like it's trying to run in the wrong resolution or something.
[10:27] <francois> ardchoille: if properly installed it'll auto complete, pretty sure, but if it jsut copies files to the computer then no, it won't auto complete
[10:27] <francois> SnakesAndStuff: weird, but your desktop seems fine ? once its all bootted up ?
[10:28] <Ropechoborra> Hi, anyone knows what does this mean? : ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[10:28] <AlexC_> Hi hi
[10:28] <OldMoldy> I recently downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 desktop and when the disk was burned the analysis tool on the disk said there were 6 checksum errors.  Is it possible that there are errors in the distribution file?
[10:28] <SnakesAndStuff> francois: Yes, it's only on the loading screen...
[10:28] <AlexC_> OldMoldy: nope, highly doubt it,
[10:28] <BHSPitMonkey> gumpish, whocarez, somed00d... classmates?
[10:28] <ardchoille> francois: Installing merely copies files to the fs.. I think if a files is installed to a dir that isn't in $PATH, tab compeltion won't work.
[10:29] <wiseelben> How can I run fsck without anything mounted, like getting to a terminal before the drives are mounted during boot?
[10:29] <Xenguy> Ropechoborra: the ssh server does not like whoever is trying to connect to it :-)
[10:29] <nuno> java PowerFolder
[10:29] <nuno> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: PowerFolder
[10:29] <nuno> doesn't find the jar file
[10:29] <Ropechoborra> Xenguy Thanks!
[10:29] <francois> ardchoille: right,
[10:29] <Xenguy> Ropechoborra: then of course the question becomes how to fix that, if that is what you want
[10:29] <francois> nuno: where is it ?
[10:29] <OldMoldy> I downloaded two copies from different mirror sites and the checksum for the files matched the MD5 checksum; however two different burn programs gave the same results on the burned disk
[10:30] <francois> OldMoldy: bad disks ?
[10:30] <nuno> that's my problem
[10:30] <nuno> I don't know where is it
[10:30] <nuno> I don't know where ubuntu stores the jar files
[10:30] <karlheitz> anyone interested in helping a newbie with its installing problems?
[10:30] <francois> nuno: then search for it,
[10:30] <ardchoille> nuno: Type: sudo updatedb && locate PowerFolder | less
[10:31] <Xenguy> !anyone > karlheitz
[10:31] <nuno> ok thanks
[10:31] <Ropechoborra> Xenguy No, that is a support ssh from my ircd hosting
[10:31] <ardchoille> nuno: That updatedb may take a minute or so
[10:31] <Ropechoborra> And didnt know why it was saying that
[10:31] <nuno> ok
[10:31] <nuno> i'll wait
[10:31] <Viro> eck, ah, the error is Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module... what can I do about that?
[10:31] <OldMoldy> Thank you.
[10:31] <Xenguy> Ropechoborra: OK.  It is an authentication or permissions issue likely
[10:32] <Wastrel> hi hi.  my graphics card isn't recognized and i am on the vesa driver.  tried to change it to "radeon" and X won't start
[10:32] <Ropechoborra> Ok thanks
[10:32] <Wastrel> it's an ATI :[
[10:32] <eck> Viro: you probably need to get the latest nvidida module (i'm not sure how, but i'm sure there are instructions everywhree)
[10:32] <Xenguy> Ropechoborra: yw
[10:32] <Viro> eck k ima try but I think I had those ;)
[10:32] <eck> Viro: from my understanding, the video drivers have to track X11, so if there is an ABI change in X11 you need to update the drivers as well
[10:33] <raven3x7> Wastrel what ati card do you have?
[10:33] <Viro> eck, ABI change?
[10:33] <AlexC_> !ati | Wastrel
[10:33] <ubotu> Wastrel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:33] <Wastrel> raven3x7 not sure - just got this box.
[10:33] <Wastrel> @ work i didn't order it.
[10:33] <sinisterguy> i need help with beagle, it won't index any o my kaddressbook, or korganiser of akregator info
[10:34] <Beta-guy> does ubuntu support 802.11n and WPA2 networks?
[10:34] <raven3x7> Wastrel, if its a newer X1xxx card you need the fglrx drivers. see ubotu's post
[10:34] <eck> Viro: when there is a big change in X11 (e.g. 7.0 -> 7.1) sometimes the interface changes, and the drivers need to be updated to reflect that
[10:35] <Viro> eck, hm ima try to fix it :(
[10:35] <mike1o> !aircrack
[10:35] <ubotu> aircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracker. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-3 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 372 kB
[10:35] <raven3x7> Wastrel, post the output of lspci into pastebin.ca or any pastebin really
[10:35] <gumpish> What's a good command-line audio player? (Just for playing a single sound file then terminating.) I've tried "play" but it seems to hiccup at the end of the file.
[10:35] <profx> can you see a verbose mode during a ubuntu install?
[10:35] <francois> eck: they need to be reinstalled after an X update
[10:35] <AlexC_> profx: not sure, but you could use the Alternate CD instead/
[10:35] <Wastrel> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] 
[10:36] <Wastrel> heh now i get lspci info
[10:36] <frojnd> hello there how can I open apache_start.bat ?
[10:36] <frojnd> if I can?
[10:36] <profx> i just keep freezing during the install
[10:36] <raven3x7> Wastrel, hmm that sould work with radeon
[10:36] <iamsam9895> How do I edit the monitor refresh settings in ubuntu?  I keep getting Out of range errors.
[10:36] <AlexC_> frojnd: open it with gedit,
[10:36] <profx> there are a few choices, but none work
[10:36] <francois> iamsam9895: look in your xorg
[10:36] <AlexC_> !x | iamsam9895
[10:36] <ubotu> iamsam9895: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:36] <rubyat> gumpish: what kind of sound file?
[10:37] <frojnd> AlexC_: this doesn't help me..
[10:37] <frojnd> I need program to be running..
[10:37] <black_13> Beta-guy,
[10:37] <iamsam9895> I already eited my xorg.conf and it still uses the old settings.
[10:37] <frojnd> not be editing with editor..
[10:37] <iamsam9895> edited*
[10:37] <AlexC_> frojnd: I don't understand, you said how to open it ...
[10:37] <francois> iamsam9895: did you save it ? :S
[10:37] <iamsam9895> Yes
[10:37] <AlexC_> frojnd: .bat files are a windows thing, they wont "run" in Linux, natively
[10:37] <raven3x7> Wastrel have checked the wiki for tips on tweaking you xorg.conf to work correctly with the radeon driver?
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> iamsam: did you edit it under sudo?
[10:37] <Beta-guy> black_13: hi
[10:37] <profx> is it a good idea to setup the video res at the beginning of the ubuntu install?
[10:37] <iamsam9895> If I suddenly quit it's because it wen't out of range.
[10:37] <iamsam9895> Yes.
[10:38] <frojnd> AlexC_: I have wine installed...
[10:38] <francois> profx: yes, if you know what you want, and what you need
[10:38] <iamsam9895> sudo gedit xorg.conf
[10:38] <iamsam9895> right?
[10:38] <profx> its not listed
[10:38] <AlexC_> frojnd: then do "wine path_to.bat" in terminal ?
[10:38] <francois> iamsam9895: yeah,
[10:38] <PREMIUM93> Anyone know of any solid Outlook.PST (2003) to Unix MBox conversion utilities for Linux?
[10:38] <jakoblaursen> Hi. Can anyone help me getting my wireless to work?
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> wait... it suddenly goes out of range? you mean in the middle of an x session?
[10:38] <francois> profx: then use the defaults for now, and then you can set it manually
[10:38] <profx> i have a wide screen, and its not showing my max in the beginning of the install
[10:38] <AlexC_> !anyone | jakoblaursen
[10:38] <ubotu> jakoblaursen: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:38] <frojnd> AlexC_: wine: could not load L"C:\\Program Files\\xampp\\apache_start.bat": Bad EXE format for
[10:38] <iamsam9895> Yes.
[10:38] <profx> ah, ok
[10:39] <black_13> what is a good ogg vorbis player?
[10:39] <iamsam9895> In the middle of an X session it goes out of range.
[10:39] <Scarsick> XMMS
[10:39] <AlexC_> frojnd: may I ask why you are setting up a Webserver in Ubuntu via WINE?!?!
[10:39] <gumpish> rubyat:  WAV
[10:39] <AlexC_> well, atleast Apache,
[10:39] <Scarsick> for the challenge :)
[10:39] <frojnd> AlexC_: sql..
[10:40] <AlexC_> frojnd: MySQL? That has a native linux version ...
[10:40] <frojnd> AlexC_ school... u know teachers..
[10:41] <AlexC_> what, wait - you're teachers want you to setup a web server via Wine?!
[10:41] <slacker_nl> lol
[10:41] <jakoblaursen> I have no idea, what to do to get my wireless to work. Please help
[10:41] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: how do you want to setup your wireless?
[10:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - how do i recompile the kernel with the new GCC ??????????/
[10:41] <profx> jakoblaursen: thats good to know
[10:41] <karlheitz> hi can anyone tell me why the live cd installer doesnt accept my selfmade partitions?
[10:41] <vox754> !kernel
[10:41] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:41] <AlexC_> frojnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:42] <francois> karlheitz: are you sure you used the right filesystem ?
[10:42] <Scarsick> I've been trying to get sound to work in Flash ... I've tried 3-4 "solutions" on the net, but to no avail. I'm running the 64bit version of Dapper
[10:42] <jakoblaursen> I have FON router and would just like to get online with my ubuntu-installation
[10:42] <karlheitz> francois  i used xt3
[10:42] <francois> karlheitz: i remember there was something weird about the install, theres a button somewhere hidden to let it accept your hand made partitions
[10:42] <karlheitz> gg really?
[10:43] <francois> Scarsick: did you install flash from the repositories ? or the website ?
[10:43] <nexous> Hi, what's a console for gnome, that will have no windows (exit, minimize, etc)?
[10:43] <Scarsick> francois: the website ...
[10:43] <nexous> Also that has transparency built in.
[10:43] <MKR> nexous, gnome-terminal with the menu and border off?
[10:43] <slacker_nl> !wifi > jakoblaursen
[10:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> hm, see here's the problem. I have installed ndiswrapper, and i'm doing the "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" command, which is the last step to setting up wireless. however
[10:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> instead what happens is that it gives me "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format"
[10:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> now i'm just not sure what to do..... i looked all over the forums but no solutions
[10:43] <Scarsick> I've also tried repositories, neither has worked
[10:43] <francois> Scarsick: the adobe website, the ppl who own flash, they have a install you can do, the the repo version doesnt work
[10:44] <nexous> MKR: I'll try.
[10:44] <lilrayray> hi all, I am trying to configure my network adapter through the command line (dont have gui at the moment).  Unfortunately I have run into trouble.  When I try to activate my wlan0 with "sudo ifup wlan0" I get the error "Ignoring unknown interfaces wlan0=wlan0".  How do I set my network adapter up?  There is no "wlan0" in /etc/network/interfaces.  in Dapper, under VESA, I could simply go...
[10:44] <lilrayray> ...administration>netwroking>and choose my ssid and press ok
[10:44] <AlexC_> nexous: install tilda
[10:44] <Ropechoborra> How can i access an other terminal shared files from tty ?
[10:44] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: I didn't get a lot out of that. I'm a total newbee
[10:44] <andytayloruk> hi, im trying to install XGL but I just cannot find that required package
[10:44] <Scarsick> I'll try installing the newest version and see if it works out
[10:44] <karlheitz> francois: do you mean the one for the mount poins, that menu?
[10:44] <andytayloruk> apt-get reports a 404 when I try to request xserver-xgl
[10:44] <Jowi> !xgl | andy101
[10:44] <ubotu> andy101: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <eck> lilrayray: iwconfig should show you the correct interface name
[10:45] <francois> karlheitz: i think so, i remember almost erasing my whole hard drive once, only to find out the menu was weirdly built, i'm just saying look around, its there somewhere
[10:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> hm, see here's the problem. I have installed ndiswrapper, and i'm doing the "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" command, which is the last step to setting up wireless. however
[10:45] <lilrayray> eck: I did iwconfig and it had wlan0
[10:45] <AlexC_> andytayloruk: there is a great guide on the Beryl Wiki that tells you how,
[10:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> instead what happens is that it gives me "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format"
[10:45] <andy101> ! xgl | andytayloruk
[10:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> anyone know what to do?
[10:45] <ubotu> andytayloruk: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <Jowi> andytayloruk, try a different mirror.
[10:45] <Jowi> sorry andy101  :)
[10:45] <AlexC_> andytayloruk: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[10:45] <francois> !patience | denis_on_ubuntu
[10:45] <ubotu> denis_on_ubuntu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:45] <eck> lilrayray: i would just ignore the error then and try to use iwconfig/dhclient to associate and configure the interface
[10:46] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: ok - familiar with the command line?
[10:46] <lilrayray> eck: what is dhclient?
[10:46] <andytayloruk> AlexC_: I used the beryl-project one and it returns a 404
[10:46] <eck> lilrayray: it is a command line tool to get a dhcp lease
[10:46] <andytayloruk> where can I find another mirror?
[10:47] <jakoblaursen> No.
[10:47] <karlheitz> francois: i get an error mess. " no root data system"
[10:47] <lilrayray> eck: also with iwconfig, I set ssid but I still cant apt or do any internet related things
[10:47] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: no..
[10:47] <AlexC_> andytayloruk: erm, not sure - could leave it till tomorrow and see if it's working then?
[10:47] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: wanna try it?
[10:47] <eck> lilrayray: with wireless you need to associate with an AP and then get an IP address in two different steps
[10:47] <karlheitz> any idea what it could mean?
[10:47] <francois> karlheitz: sure you didnt try to associate your home partition to your swap ?
[10:47] <BigMac> hey is there an option in ubuntu similar to dxdiag in windows that allows me to view my video car, processor speed, and amount of ram?
[10:47] <jakoblaursen> slacker: Well... anything that can make it work
[10:47] <eck> lilrayray: try running sudo dhclient wlan0 (or whatever the interface is named)
[10:47] <karlheitz> sorry what do you mean by that?
[10:47] <fleas> Question: I have wine installed, I do have windows installed on another partition with all the games and programs i used to use on it, is it posible to run them without reinstalling in the C: drive in .wine
[10:47] <babu> hi, when i try to login into my ubuntu,i get an error in a message box, which is like    "internal failure! faile to initialize HAL!"
[10:47] <lilrayray> eck: ok, one sec, thanks
[10:47] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: ok then :)
[10:48] <babu> can anyone tell me how to solve that?
[10:48] <karlheitz> think i mixed?
[10:48] <eck> BigMac: yes, it's called the /proc filesystem :-)
[10:48] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: what are you running, gnome or KDE?
[10:48] <eck> BigMac: actually in gnome you can use the hardware information tool
[10:48] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: How can I see that?
[10:48] <gays> How often does webalizer update? Can i change it?
[10:49] <BigMac> eck: What is it under?
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> jakoblaursen: is your background brown or is it blue?
[10:49] <jakoblaursen> brown
[10:49] <eck> BigMac: system > preferences > hardware information
[10:49] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: hehe, ok, ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu?
[10:49] <jakoblaursen> I think it is gnome ubuntu
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> its ubuntu....
[10:50] <slacker_nl> ok, then got the menu, applications, terminal
[10:50] <BigMac> eck:no..
[10:50] <karlheitz> francois: i think thats not possible, thei have 4 different sizes so i dont have to look after the names
[10:50] <babu> there is no solution of my problem? :(
[10:50] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: got = goto :)
[10:50] <profx> someone able to guide me through this new install?
[10:50] <ardchoille> Is the update for dvd+rw-tools broken recently?
[10:50] <lilrayray> eck: it scanned a couple ports, found my router IP and then finished with "failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' (no file found)"
[10:50] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl:  im there
[10:50] <slacker_nl> ok
[10:50] <francois> karlheitz: try using largest continuous free space then, that might solve it
[10:51] <karlheitz> yeah that was my second try
[10:51] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: type the following: lspci | grep -i ehternet
[10:51] <eck> lilrayray: i guess you need to create the file? try 'touch /etc/resolv.conf'
[10:51] <kcinna> how can i view my mac address?
[10:51] <karlheitz> and youre right
[10:51] <karlheitz> it worked
[10:51] <lilrayray> eck: ok, one sec
[10:51] <karlheitz> bot now its my third;)
[10:51] <BigMac> eck:it is not there
[10:51] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: you can use pb.beeman.nl for a pastebin :)
[10:51] <karlheitz> and i wanna do it better
[10:51] <francois> karlheitz: so problem solved ?
[10:51] <MrOnions> hey everyone... I need a command (or preferably multiple) executed every time I start a terminal (to alter PS1) -- my first guess was .profile but that's for login shells... which file do I need?
[10:51] <karlheitz> and have an own partition for /home and /boot
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> MrOnions: .bashrc
[10:52] <eck> BigMac: what specifically do you want to find out? it might be easier to just use the cli tools
[10:52] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl:  no
[10:52] <Jowi> MrOnions, .bashrc
[10:52] <francois> MrOnions: you need to write a script to run the commands and you can place it in /ect/init.d/ foldeer
[10:52] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: sorry?
[10:52] <eck> MrOnions: .bashrc, of course
[10:52] <MrOnions> thank you nosrednaekim and Jowi and eck
[10:52] <jakoblaursen> I don't know what that is
[10:52] <MrOnions> and francois too I guess, although that doesn't seem right
[10:52] <MikeMcA> any other dapper users having trouble with the recent dvd+rw-tools upgrade being held back due to missing genisoimage?
[10:52] <karlheitz> francois: no its not solved, because i kicked of the running ubuntu
[10:52] <Jowi> MrOnions, you should even have a pre-set PROMPT_COMMAND in there if you need.
[10:52] <BigMac> eck:video card, proccessor speed, and amount of ram
[10:52] <Xenguy> MrOnions: Kinda depends - you can run apps etc. on startup and configure it through gnome for example
[10:53] <lilrayray> eck: internet works! thanks a lot!
[10:53] <fleas>  I have wine installed, I do have windows installed on another partition with all the games and programs i used to use on it, is it posible to run them without reinstalling in the C: drive in .wine
[10:53] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: with lspci you list all your pci devices
[10:53] <eck> BigMac: for video card use 'lspci', for processor speed use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', for ram just use 'free -m'
[10:53] <eck> lilrayray: no problem :-)
[10:53] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: and the '| grep -i ethernet' we grep for our device
[10:53] <kcinna> anyone know if azureus uses an internal port for upnp forwarding?
[10:53] <karlheitz> and tried a new install with 4 own partitions instead of 2 automatic
[10:54] <ardchoille> MikeMcA: I have been asking about that too
[10:54] <Ropechoborra> @mp3
[10:54] <jakoblaursen> It only shows the normal lan (Rhine) not the ralink
[10:54] <ardchoille> MikeMcA: I don't think we're alone
[10:54] <MikeMcA> ardchoille: genisoimage doesn't seem to be in any of the common repositories
[10:54] <Ropechoborra> !mp3
[10:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:54] <PiNE> what is the most advanced feature filled instant messaging client?
[10:54] <ardchoille> MikeMcA: I think a packager made a boo boo
[10:54] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: could you put the output on pb.beeman.nl?
[10:55] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: Can I somehow make the IRC only show your comments?
[10:55] <MikeMcA> ardchoille: K, I'll wait a bit and see.  Thx.
[10:55] <Grenade> yea jako that woudl be smart
[10:55] <vox754> kcinna, NO. You must set the port in azureus and in your router. Did you got the file from SourceForge? How did that go?
[10:55] <ardchoille> MikeMcA: Thanks for asking, it let me know it wasn't just me :)
[10:55] <Grenade> then other people who r trying to help or might even have the right answer... you woudln't be able to see
[10:55] <Grenade> but i dunno hwo to do that sry
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> you can pm slacker_nl
[10:56] <slacker_nl> nosrednaekim: why?
[10:56] <slacker_nl> ahh
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> well he want to only be able to see your messages
[10:56] <kcinna> vox754: it installed fine, but NAT still doesnt seem to work. the test fails anyway
[10:56] <slacker_nl> sorry, misread it
[10:56] <slacker_nl> see what you are saying
[10:56] <profx> atm I have 5 options, and some F* keys (Start or install Ubuntu, Start U in safe graphics mode, check CD, memory test, and boot from first hard disk) and F1: help F2: language F3: Keymap F4: VGA F5: Accesibility F6: Other Options
[10:56] <karlheitz> francois: r u still there?
[10:56] <kcinna> vox754: i read the azureus wiki and did the iptables thing for ubuntu
[10:57] <vox754> kcinna, do you know how to do port forwarding? That is on the router side.
[10:57] <profx> i tried to do safe grap. mode two times now, causing my system to freeze
[10:57] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: do you see my pm?
[10:57] <kcinna> vox754: yeah, ive enabled the ports in my router
[10:57] <profx> and the start or install does the same thing
[10:57] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: or do this in irc: /query slacker_nl
[10:57] <vox754> karlheitz, I'll give you some images about the partitions.
[10:57] <kcinna> vox754: do i need a static ip?
[10:57] <profx> do I need to edit F4 or F6 before continuing my install?
[10:58] <karlheitz> vox754: thanks a lot
[10:58] <vox754> kcinna, just do what you did on windows, it should work. Unless you have some firewall installed. I did nothing special and it works fine.
[10:58] <Viro> what does it mean when the apt-get packages I want to install have unmet dependencies... it says something depends something but that thing is not going to be installed :)
[10:58] <kcinna> vox754: i had installed the firewall, but ive since deleted it
[10:59] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: I see it
[10:59] <profx> or I can press ESC and get a cli, boot:
[10:59] <eck> Viro: sometimes a package will depend on another package in a repository that you do not have enabled, so there is no way you can satisfy the dependencies
[10:59] <vox754> kcinna, well. That is your fault.
[10:59] <profx> what do I need to do to install this properly?
[10:59] <bzozo> Hi
[10:59] <sacater> how can i limit a users space on my computer
[11:00] <slacker_nl> jakoblaursen: i just send you a message, could you reply to it?
[11:00] <bzozo> Does anyone have probleme with cupsd following a recent update?
[11:00] <eck> sacater: ulimit or quotas
[11:00] <bzozo> Actually, I dunno which package cause problem :-/
[11:01] <profx> someone has to have installed ubuntu in here, someone toss me a bone here?
[11:01] <mcquaid> besides tracker and beagle is there another similar program?  I think I recall another one but can't recall it's name
[11:01] <vox754> karlheitz, http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=part001hk7.png http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=part011fz2.png
[11:01] <bzozo> ??
[11:01] <mcquaid> for beagle is a little too resource heavy and I've already notice tracker missing files
[11:01] <mcquaid> er for me
[11:02] <eck> mcquaid: there are a couple, i think those are the two strongest ones though
[11:02] <eck> kde has a couple that they have made
[11:02] <eck> i think strigi?
[11:02] <kritzstapf> do you recommend using egdy till 4/19 or upgrade to feisty? (i hate those usb2-bugs in the edgy-kernel)
[11:02] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i recently tried out kde, didnt like i a whole lot and removed it. i am dealing with a minor, but irritating problem:kde overrode  my fonts and themes in GNOME
[11:02] <radioaktivstorm> any suggestions?
[11:02] <kritzstapf> radioaktivstorm, for all users?
[11:02] <sacater> eck: please join #sacater for a mo pleae
[11:02] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl: Can't you see my replies?
[11:03] <orionrobots> Evening. Does anybody here know much about udev and usermodelinux on ubuntu? Ubuntu Host, and an Ubuntu Guest. I cannot get the swap to mount, its device does not show up in /dev, however the root fs does.
[11:03] <mcquaid> i'll look up the name, thx eck
[11:03] <posingaspopular> probably not regeistered
[11:03] <posingaspopular> slacker i mean
[11:03] <radioaktivstorm> kritzstapfi only have one user on this machine  besides root
[11:03] <radioaktivstorm> kritzstapf, i only have one user on this machine  besides root
[11:03] <mcquaid> and ya I remember kde has one, (or two)
[11:03] <Viro> eck, I think I screwed things up last night when I wanted to upgrade from dapper->edgy :)))
[11:04] <orionrobots> Viro - I tend to avoid upgrades, and backup, migrate to one of my disks in the volume  set (using LVM) then install from scratch on the other.
[11:05] <eck> orionrobots: you sound like a sysadmin :-)
[11:05] <Viro> orionrobots, I think ima reinstall from scratch Right about now :D
[11:05] <orionrobots> I have never had much fun with complete distro upgrades, Ubuntu, Debian or any other. It seems to go well - but can get nasty.
[11:05] <profx> thought this linux distro was meant to be newbie friendly?
[11:05] <orionrobots> eck - Kind of..
[11:05] <profx> so far, I am not impressed
[11:05] <Viro> orionrobots, do I get the 6.10 ? :)
[11:05] <orionrobots> profx - It is, but while updating simple packages is easy, upgrading the whole OS can be awkward.
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> profx: what kind of problems are you having?
[11:05] <orionrobots> Viro - I would.
[11:05] <radioaktivstorm> kritzstapf, made a second account, settings are fine in the other account apparently
[11:06] <profx> all problems
[11:06] <Viro> orionrobots, do I dl the Kubuntu if I want the KDE ?
[11:06] <profx> I am a problem-magnet
[11:06] <jakoblaursen> slacker_nl:  Are you still there?
[11:06] <bachor_> q
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> profx: upgrading the OS is a bad idea, jsut like I think upgrading Windows is a bad idea
[11:06] <orionrobots> Viro - use the ISO - yes kububuntu.
[11:06] <bachor_> Qq
[11:06] <orionrobots> Exactly.
[11:06] <profx> great, im not upgrading
[11:06] <profx> im installing
[11:06] <profx> and its a shit installer
[11:06] <Viro> orionrobots, arite it's gonna be a long night up ahead
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> profx: what makes you say that?
[11:06] <profx> freezes
[11:06] <xexos> so, i installed the nvidia drivers like instructed on the website, but when i restarted X server, it wont start back up again. Once Ubuntu loads i get these weird error messages and i can use it >.<
[11:07] <profx> i cannot do a thing
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> so use the alternate install cd its not an uncommon problem
[11:07] <orionrobots> Ok. Profx Where does it freeze?
[11:07] <xexos> i can log in through the command line though
[11:07] <profx> at the beginning
[11:07] <orionrobots> I nearly always use the alternate - but then I am a big LVM fan..
[11:07] <boci^> hi
[11:07] <orionrobots> Hi
[11:07] <kritzstapf> radioaktivstorm, hm, so copy the settings of this account.. :/
[11:08] <boci^> if I see this in the dmesg:
[11:08] <boci^> [42949376.920000]   hdc: [mac]  hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 hdc8
[11:08] <profx> so, if you scroll up, you see the options I have
[11:08] <boci^> how can I mount any hdc partition?
[11:08] <profx> or I can paste them again
[11:08] <boci^> what is [mac] ?
[11:08] <morpheusdreams> Evening folks. I have a friend who want to go to Ubuntu but has a BT Home Hub wireless router and can't find any useful info on it's installation. Anyone know where i can point him towards?
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> orionrobots: i've only used it once, w/ Xubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, cuz it wouldn't take the normal install.
[11:08] <profx> but i freeze in a safe install, and non-safe
[11:08] <boci^> the fdisk can't see anything...
[11:08] <orionrobots> profx- I have only recently joined, how about using the pastebin?
[11:08] <PriceChild> morpheusdreams, I have one... works perfectly... nothing special
[11:08] <bzozo> boci^,   mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/foo         ?
[11:08] <xexos> anyone?
[11:08] <profx> atm I have 5 options, and some F* keys (Start or install Ubuntu, Start U in safe graphics mode, check CD, memory test, and boot from first hard disk) and F1: help F2: language F3: Keymap F4: VGA F5: Accesibility F6: Other Options
[11:08] <cafuego_> boci^: just mount them as per normal, it's a macintosh partition map.
[11:08] <boci^> bzozo: not work
[11:09] <boci^> cafuego_: I tried
[11:09] <profx> pastebin wont really work atm
[11:09] <gays> How often does webalizer update? Can i change it?
[11:09] <morpheusdreams> pricechild it just works? no additional setup needed?
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:09] <cafuego_> boci^: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[11:09] <PriceChild> morpheusdreams, just works :) Very nice bit of kit :)
[11:09] <boci^> hmm
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> pastebin works fine for me
[11:09] <boci^> Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[11:09] <profx> noob
[11:09] <boci^> :|
[11:09] <orionrobots> gays  - yes. It has its own config file. I like to use webmin and make it easy for myself.
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9519/
[11:10] <cafuego_> boci^: How rude, Try parted on it
[11:10] <morpheusdreams> pricechild i shall tell him that, thank you
[11:10] <profx> not talking about accesing the site, im talking about its NOT useful to use it, for what I am doing
[11:10] <profx> how can I pastebin anything, when I am just in an installer
[11:10] <boci^> cafuego_: I changed my mac to x86
[11:10] <profx> think about it
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> profx: well if you're wanting to paste error messages, thats what its for.
[11:10] <gays> orionrobots: Ok, but it havent updated in about 11 hours.. =\ it updated once when i installed it
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> profx: and you're right, its not useful for you at this time.
[11:10] <profx> holy man
[11:10] <non1> hi.. i need help..i just istalled ubuntu and cannot acess the terminals by using ctrl+alt+f1,f2... if i switch to it there is just a mixture of colours.. is there anything i can do?
[11:10] <profx> your dense
[11:10] <cafuego_> boci^: That's fine, but the disk still contains an MacOS partition map (which is fine, Linux doesn't mind)
[11:10] <boci^> cafuego_: I buy another hdd, and now I want to get back may old datas
[11:10] <jrib> !attitude | profx
[11:10] <ubotu> profx: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:10] <profx> next person
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> profx: lol, i'm dense?... i've installed ubuntu at least a dozen times w/o an issue
[11:11] <boci^> cafuego_: ok but if I repartitioning it's deleted
[11:11] <orionrobots> profx - you will get no help with that attitude. Annoy a community, and the community will dust off..
[11:11] <cafuego_> boci^: correct
[11:11] <non1> i searched the internet but nobody seems to have the problem..
[11:11] <profx> thats great,good to hear, have a f'in award
[11:11] <boci^> cafuego_: and in the mac I run ubuntu
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> i agreed with you that pastebin was of no use for you.
[11:11] <boci^> so it's simple xfs/ext3
[11:11] <karlheitz> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mountpointskarlheizld2.png
[11:11] <karlheitz> http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gpartedkarlheiztl5.png
[11:11] <boci^> cafuego_: I not used MacOSX , it's simple ubuntu partitions
[11:12] <orionrobots> profx - so what happens when you select (shock horror) "Start or Install Ubuntu"?
[11:12] <profx> freeze
[11:12] <profx> as I said about 5 times now
[11:12] <profx> same in safe graphics
[11:12] <cafuego_> profx: Have you run the memory checker?
[11:12] <profx> no, not the mem checker
[11:12] <Viro> What is feisty ?
[11:12] <jrib> profx: what hardware? what version of ubuntu?  tried the alternate cd?
[11:12] <profx> just the CD for defects
[11:12] <jrib> !feisty | Viro
[11:12] <ubotu> Viro: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:12] <cafuego_> Maybe do that, let it ruin for a while.
[11:12] <profx> 6.10
[11:12] <xexos> so, i installed the nvidia drivers like instructed on the website, but when i restarted X server, it wont start back up again. Once Ubuntu loads i get these weird error messages and i can use it >.< I can login through the command line though (and yeah, im a super n00b)
[11:12] <profx> no, no alternate CD
[11:12] <Viro> oh
[11:13] <thomas686> hi
[11:13] <beanfarmer_> hi
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> well, there's your answer.
[11:13] <profx> an alternate CD, as in another ubuntu, or another burn?
[11:13] <orionrobots> xexos - were they the repo drivers or direct from the nvidia site?
[11:13] <jrib> !alternate | profx
[11:13] <ubotu> profx: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:13] <orionrobots> profx - the Alternate installer cd.
[11:13] <karlheitz> vox754: still there?
[11:13] <cafuego_> boci^: I expect that partitions 1 and 2 might be MacOS patch partitions, so you need to find a way (parted) to list the partitions, so you can see what they are, where your data is.
[11:14] <vox754> karlheitz, okay
[11:14] <boci^> cafuego_: but...
[11:14] <xexos> orionrobots: aomeone did !nvidia or something and i followed those instructions. i got them from a package manager
[11:14] <orionrobots> Xexos - Ok.
[11:14] <boci^> cafuego_: I think the problem, my data's in an extended partition
[11:14] <karlheitz> vox: have a lookhttp://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mountpointskarlheizld2.png http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gpartedkarlheiztl5.png
[11:14] <jimmygoon_> !nvidia
[11:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <boci^> cafuego_: because if I try to mount the swap, it's recognize the swap partition
[11:14] <orionrobots> jimmygon - he already saw it.
[11:14] <non1> has nobody an idea ? :'(
[11:14] <orionrobots> Sorry - jimmygoon_
[11:14] <cafuego_> boci^: mac partitions maps do not have extended partitions, that kind of stupid design applies to dos only.
[11:14] <jakoblaursen> Who can guide me through setting up my wireless internet?
[11:15] <beanfarmer_> i have an intel gfx chip on my laptop do i still need to install drivers?
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> !WIRELESS
[11:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:15] <PriceChild> beanfarmer_, should be done by default
[11:15] <xexos> my card is a 7800gt if that helps
[11:15] <profx> so, ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso, is not a good install CD available?
[11:15] <Jowi> beanfarmer_, which one? run "lspci | grep -i vga"
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> profx, its fine
[11:15] <profx> you would think it was
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> profx: its fine, but when you have installation problems, its best to use the alternate cd
[11:15] <jrib> profx: it is, but since it is not working for you, you should try the alternate cd...
[11:15] <beanfarmer_> 1 sec ill check
[11:15] <orionrobots> Hmm - gotta go. BBL.
[11:15] <profx> since it available on all servers listed
[11:15] <kane77> any ops here?
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> ops?
[11:16] <beanfarmer_> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:16] <profx> so where do I go next?
[11:16] <cafuego_> kane77: yes
[11:16] <teclis> hello, I have a problem with my USB-Printer (Epson Stylus C84). The printer is not in the List of detected printers. Can someone help me please? dmesg shows the following line: [17179780.728000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005
[11:16] <iamsam9895> Arg!
[11:16] <vox754> karlheitz, seems richtig. I don't know why are you having problems. Maybe the root should be first, also make sure you format them.
[11:16] <Jowi> beanfarmer_, no. use i810 driver. but to get other resolutions than 1024x768 you need to install 915resolution
[11:16] <jrib> profx: download and burn the alternate cd
[11:16] <iamsam9895> Still get out of range errors.
[11:16] <lisapc> i have a Nvidia 7300. how can I install its video drivers in Xbuntu?
[11:16] <Ok> hey all i want free vhost please any one help me
[11:16] <Jowi> !info 915resolution | beanfarmer_
[11:16] <profx> oh, so I just pull it outta your ass?
[11:17] <ubotu> beanfarmer_: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:17] <xexos> anyone?
[11:17] <profx> or is it on the ubuntu site?
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | lisapc
[11:17] <ubotu> lisapc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <kane77> cafuego_, hmmm I had this idea, what if there was stats of this channel? the way we have on ##c
[11:17] <jrib> profx: do you remember !attitude from a few minutes ago?
[11:17] <cafuego_> !language | profx
[11:17] <ubotu> profx: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:17] <beanfarmer_> thanks
[11:17] <lisapc> ty
[11:17] <Ok> !vhost
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vhost - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <profx> jrib, do you remember that I just ignored your last comment?
[11:17] <iamsam9895> My monitor keeps going out of range!
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> what a friendly fella
[11:17] <karlheitz> vox are you german?
[11:17] <profx> well come on
[11:17] <vox754> karlheitz, nein.
[11:18] <cafuego_> kane77: Wouldn't that provide misguided encouragement to some people? ;-)
[11:18] <iamsam9895> It does it randomly in the middle of an X session.
[11:18] <profx> spend 5 mins telling me to use pastebin
[11:18] <profx> im in a freaking install
[11:18] <karlheitz> aber du sprichst deutsch?
[11:18] <jakoblaursen> Help needed: Wirelees network
[11:18] <jrib> !de | karlheitz
[11:18] <ubotu> karlheitz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:18] <cafuego_> naturlich, wer kann das nicht?
[11:18] <profx> so, where can you get this alternate CD from?
[11:18] <gyaresu> profx: So type it out or take a photo and photbucket...
[11:18] <jimmygoon> profx: try spending 30 seconds on ubuntu.com
[11:18] <cafuego_> profx: it's listed on the ubuntu download site
[11:18] <kane77> cafuego_, hmm.. yeah it might... :) but I just like stats... :)
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> gyaresu: lol
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego_: but its easier if we give him the answer
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> i suspect with his attitude, he's trolling
[11:19] <shatrat> ich kann's auf jedenfall nit
[11:19] <karlheitz> ok thanks at all
[11:19] <karlheitz> especially vox
[11:19] <vox754> karlheitz, nein. Ich spreche nicht.
[11:19] <cafuego_> IndyGunFreak: well, it *is* the weekend
[11:19] <karlheitz> doch tust du;)
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego_: lol, SCHOOLS OUT!!!!!
[11:19] <karlheitz> du schreibst ok
[11:19] <shatrat> ga' ni' wa'!
[11:19] <cafuego_> IndyGunFreak: uh-huh.
[11:20] <gyaresu> Right you naughtly little monsters !offtopic
[11:20] <xexos> so, i installed the nvidia drivers like instructed on the website, but when i restarted X server, it wont start back up again. Once Ubuntu loads i get these weird error messages and i can use it >.< I can login through the command line though (and yeah, im a super n00b) I have a 7800gt if that helps
[11:20] <cmdln> afternoon
[11:21] <cmdln> im trying to migrate an ubuntu box from a single drive to raid 1
[11:21] <cmdln> is there any way to get my md devices in /dev/ instead of /dev/.static/dev/
[11:21] <cmdln> ?
[11:21] <vox754> yey, german time!
[11:21] <Led-Hed> when I run freshclam it tells me that my installation of ClamAV is out of date.  Apt-get tells me I have the latest version.
[11:21] <slowernet> how does one set the machine name part of the login prompt? user@machine:~$
[11:21] <Jowi> xexos, did you activate the drivers as instructed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-f8ea537454e53c8ecf3af0d8946a8162ac1c008d
[11:21] <cafuego_> Led-Hed: yes. feature, not bug :-)
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> Led-Hed: my guess is its refrering to its defintions
[11:22] <xexos> Jowi: yea
[11:22] <HaSH> xexos, how did you install it?.. apt-get or did you dl from the nvidia site?
[11:22] <Led-Hed> indigo_, freshclam updates the deffs it says to get version .90
[11:22] <cafuego_> Led-Hed: the ubuntu/debian clamav engine contains fixes to keep it up to date, but version numbers aren't incremeted, so when it conencts to the DB it whines. Just ignore it.
[11:22] <gyaresu> !ubotu > me
[11:22] <jrib> !hostname | slowernet
[11:22] <ubotu> slowernet: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:22] <xexos> .... i think i missed "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[11:23] <Led-Hed> WARNING: Local version: 0.88.4 Recommended version: 0.90.1
[11:23] <non1> does anyone have an idea what it "migtht" be? i don't even need a complete solution but something i can search for.. pls
[11:23] <mike1o> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:23] <Ok> #atari
[11:23] <Led-Hed> so even though I'm running Clam 0.88.4 its still updating the deffinitions
[11:23] <cafuego_> Led-Hed: *nod*
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> non1: whats the malfunction?
[11:24] <mmikee> Hi there
[11:24] <gyaresu> non1: Could you repeat the question please?
[11:24] <slowernet> thanks jrib
[11:24] <echonc> join #ubuntu
[11:24] <karlheitz> vox: don't you have another idea?
[11:24] <Led-Hed> cafuego, ok great.  Thanks for the clarification
[11:24] <non1> .i just istalled ubuntu and cannot acess the terminals by using ctrl+alt+f1,f2... if i switch to it there is just a mixture of colours.. is there anything i can do?
[11:24] <karlheitz> it still doesnt work
[11:24] <jrib> echonc: you're here already
[11:24] <Fer> what was the channel for Beryl again?
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> non1: are you using the ATI drivers
[11:25] <non1> i don't know how to decribe it better
[11:25] <jrib> non1: when that happens, can you go back to X with alt-f7?
[11:25] <mmikee> Could somebody help, me with totem player ? please,
[11:25] <morpheusdreams> I'm not getting any sound through anything (dvd players, firefox etc.) . Volumes are up, speakers are on and plugged in. Help :D
[11:25] <non1> yes
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <gyaresu> non1: I guess you don't get the desktop either?
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> ati sucks for linux
[11:25] <Jowi> non1, try to set the framebuffer to the same resolution as you use in xorg.
[11:25] <Jowi> !framebuffer | non1 (see bottom of page)
[11:25] <jrib> non1: you need to address who you answer or else we won't know what question you said "yes" to
[11:25] <non1> gyaresu i get the dektop.. but no terminal
[11:25] <ubotu> non1 (see bottom of page): If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[11:25] <vox754> karlheitz, what did you try? moving or formating or both?
[11:26] <non1> jirib: ok
[11:26] <gyaresu> Jowi: How did you manage the character at the end? "xorg."
[11:26] <Vik> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu(Linux in general) and to this IRC thing and need some help.
[11:26] <LordLimecat> who knows somethin aboot connecting to domain shares?
[11:26] <LordLimecat> (windows)
[11:26] <Jowi> gyaresu, a typo! :)
[11:26] <gyaresu> !welcome | Vik:
[11:26] <ubotu> Vik:: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:26] <LordLimecat> vik--what you need :)
[11:26] <non1> ubotu: thx i will try
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx i will try - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <echonc> help! i installed ubuntu 6.10 now when i boot using grub it starts loading hangs for about a minute then "busy box" built in shell comes up and says../bin/sh:cant access tty; jb control turned off. What does this mean and what can i do to boot ubuntu?
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> vik: wats your problem?
[11:26] <mmikee> i have just small task, if i want to watch wnv files, where can i get the codecs ?
[11:27] <AMSmith42> Is it typical to get Fontconfig errors when installing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:27] <gyaresu> Vik: Check out the links of the Topic. Good place to start...
[11:27] <jrib> mmikee: you mean wmv?
[11:27] <b0ri5> will ubuntu work under 128MB RAM?
[11:27] <LordLimecat> mmikee--i know VLC has the codecs on its own
[11:27] <iamsam9895> My monitor keeps getting "Out of range" errors.  My computer doesn't even seem to be using my xorg.conf file and It's just using default Verticle sync and default Horizontal refresh.
[11:27] <jrib> b0ri5: yes, try xubuntu though
[11:27] <LordLimecat> and its generally pretty good for it
[11:27] <Vik> Well, I downloaded ver 6.10 and installed it and when I try to boot, it hangs at the splash screen
[11:27] <shatrat> b0ri5, yes, although you might want to use a light window manager like xubuntu, and the alternative CD to install
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> iam sam: are you using the file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:27] <mmikee> jrib :
[11:27] <iamsam9895> Yes.
[11:27] <b0ri5> but will it get through the install?
[11:27] <mmikee> jrib: yes
[11:28] <jrib> !wmv | mmikee
[11:28] <ubotu> mmikee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <karlheitz> i moved not partitions on my hdd, i moved them in the window step 5 of 6 right or did you mean to change the places of partitions in gparted... if so, i didn't do that.        I also click on formatting for every mount point
[11:28] <mmikee> ubotu: thank you
[11:28] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:28] <shatrat> b0ri5, the liveCD requires 256mb of ram, but the alternative installer will run on pretty much anything
[11:28] <iamsam9895> The values in my xorg.conf are correct for this monitor, but linux just uses it's own default values regardless.
[11:28] <sethk> Vik, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[11:28] <b0ri5> ok, whats xubuntu?
[11:28] <LordLimecat> ubotu: !help
[11:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:28] <nosrednaekim> but I reccomend Xubuntu for that low of specs
[11:28] <jrib> !xubuntu | b0ri5
[11:28] <ubotu> b0ri5: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:28] <gyaresu> Vik: You may need to hit ESC at the very first menu and add the option 'acpi=off' add the end of the kernel line...
[11:29] <b0ri5> thanks!
[11:29] <gyaresu> Vik: Or indeed the alternate cd should help.
[11:29] <Vik> ummm...., yeahhhh...
[11:29] <echonc> help! i installed ubuntu 6.10 now when i boot using grub it starts loading hangs for about a minute then "busy box" built in shell comes up and says../bin/sh:cant access tty; jb control turned off. What does this mean and what can i do to boot ubuntu?
[11:29] <Vik> how does one accomplish this
[11:29] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with a CD-ROM drive that can't read Ubuntu CD. Can I install it from the network? If yes, how?
[11:29] <Viro> how do I set the runlevel to not boot X ?
[11:29] <iamsam9895> nosrednaekim, do you have any idea how do fix this?
[11:29] <gyaresu> Vik: Vik Can you easily download the alternate cd? (Got good bandwidth?)
[11:30] <vox754> karlheitz, mmmmm... yeah. Try moving the partitions in GParted so that / is before the extended partition.
[11:30] <Vik> broadband..., I used the DVD .iso from the site
[11:30] <maggot> Guys .. i have a rather strage problem. Besides the ctrl+alt+bks combo to kill the X server, it seems that there`s another one (shitf + bks). And I keep pressing it by mistake, thus restarting my X server. Now, the question: how the hell do I remove it?
[11:30] <vox754> karlheitz, I think the extended partition should be at last.
[11:30] <Vik> took about 3 hours to download
[11:30] <morpheusdreams> good evening everyone, i am having trouble with sound. I had sound yesterday and today, no sound. the speakers are good and plugged in but am getting no sound from anything. Please help
[11:30] <gyaresu> Viro: /etc/inittab (default runlevel)
[11:30] <nosrednaekim> iamsam9895: did you runt the commmand "sudo gedit/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit your command?
[11:30] <iamsam9895> yes.
[11:30] <Viro> gyaresu, default runlevel (2) starts x
[11:31] <iamsam9895> well
[11:31] <iamsam9895> not exactly
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> maggot: yes, thats a problem with XGL
[11:31] <vox754> karlheitz, the /boot partition could be ext2 with only 100 MB.
[11:31] <danny> quick question: what's the standard partitioning program a user would use in the ubuntu install process?
[11:31] <iamsam9895> I ran sudo gedit /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <maggot> nosrednaekim : Indeed. I start noticing it after i`ve installed compiz
[11:31] <danny> i'm giving someone some remote help
[11:31] <morpheusdreams> maggot in system > Preferences > keyboard short cut. you can change them in there, i dont know if that will help?
[11:31] <dsl4489_> hello
[11:32] <shatrat> danny, gparted is on the LiveCD
[11:32] <soleblaze> what's the package name for cdrtools (I see a cdrtools-docs, but no plain cdrtools)
[11:32] <karlheitz> vox:
[11:32] <karlheitz> why just a hundred?
[11:32] <gyaresu> Viro: Yeah that's true... Used to be 5 in debian... Hmm. Good question. I want to know too. You could just 'update-rc.d stop X11 2' (off the top of my head)
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> maggot: search google for it
[11:32] <morpheusdreams>  i am having trouble with sound. I had sound yesterday and today, no sound. the speakers are good and plugged in but am getting no sound from anything. Please help
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> I forget which file I edited
[11:32] <echonc>  help! i installed ubuntu 6.10 now when i boot using grub it starts loading hangs for about a minute then "busy box" built in shell comes up and says../bin/sh:cant access tty; jb control turned off. What does this mean and what can i do to boot ubuntu
[11:33] <maggot> morpheusdreams : doesen`t help. There`s no combo shortcut in there.
[11:33] <karlheitz> ive read, that the /boot is for updates and stuff
[11:33] <gyaresu> !repeat | morpheusdreams
[11:33] <ubotu> morpheusdreams: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:33] <maggot> nosrednaekim : I did. Came up with rather nothing :(
[11:33] <morpheusdreams> maggot i got no idea then, am noob here too :)
[11:33] <Viro> gyaresu, problem is, stating X kills the machine ;) I gotta avoid doing that so I can backup to a network drive
[11:33] <gyaresu> morpheusdreams: So do you have two sound cards?
[11:33] <sethk> karlheitz, no, some people think a separate /boot partition enhances security
[11:33] <GionnyBoss> can you install Ubuntu from pendrive instead of CD? I have a laptop with a CD-ROM that doesn't work ...
[11:33] <maggot> morpheusdreams : Ah, I see. Well, thanks anyway.
[11:33] <vox754> karlheitz, the /boot holds the kernel to boot, which is like 10 MB in size. Each kernel will need that size, so unless you plan on getting 100 kernels, I assume 100 MB is more than enough.
[11:33] <sethk> karlheitz, because /boot isn't mounted, so it's theoretically harder for an intruder to alter it.
[11:34] <gyaresu> Viro: Start up in single usermode (recovery mode) and do it from there?
[11:34] <vox754> sethk, it is mounted.
[11:34] <sethk> vox754, not in debian
[11:34] <karlheitz> when my first ubuntu installation (the one from yesterday) was ready it gave me updates of about 150MB.... or is boot just for very little kernel updates? or...?
[11:34] <Viro> gyaresu... hm
[11:34] <morpheusdreams> gyaresu sorry, yes i have it on the onboard sound at the moment, when i enter world of warcraft for the first time it makes a loading noise but that is all i am getting
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> maggot: http://customisinglife.wordpress.com/2006/11/13/disable-shift-backspace-restarting-xgl/
[11:34] <sethk> vox754, regardless, you have the option to not mount it, should you want to
[11:34] <vox754> sethk, okay. Be specific. Remember this is Ubuntu.
[11:35] <echonc>  help! i installed ubuntu 6.10 now when i boot using grub it starts loading hangs for about a minute then "busy box" built in shell comes up and says../bin/sh:cant access tty; job control turned off. What does this mean and what can i do to boot ubuntu
[11:35] <sethk> vox754, I'm not saying it should be done, just that's the reason, and someone brought up the fact that debian has a 100mb /boot partition, not me
[11:35] <Fer> Hi, i need help with Beryl :(
[11:35] <Viro> gyaresu, it's gonna work ..
[11:35] <gyaresu> morpheusdreams: So you do have two cards? Have you tried 'asoundconf list' find the name of the card you want and then 'asoundconf set-default-card _name_of_card_'
[11:35] <maggot> nosrednaekim : Thanks.
[11:35] <sethk> echonc, it's booted into a sort of rescue mode.  could be a million reasons why
[11:35] <gyaresu> Viro: You think?
[11:35] <Botamis> How can I change my resolution?
[11:35] <Vik> ok i will try the "acpi=off" thing and if it doesn't work i'll be back. thanks for all the help
[11:35] <bruenig> !fixres | Botamis
[11:35] <ubotu> Botamis: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:35] <bruenig> !xconfig | Botamis
[11:35] <ubotu> Botamis: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[11:36] <Viro> gyaresu, I never think :)) hehe im backing it up but ther's still a lot of time left untill I dl the ubuntu DVD :)
[11:36] <Fer> Hi, i need help with Beryl :(
[11:36] <morpheusdreams> gyaresu no, i will try that now
[11:36] <bruenig> Fer, #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <gyaresu> Viro: DVD? Why do that. You'll just need to update teh machine anyway?
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> Vik,also go to alt+f2 on boot
[11:36] <ceiphas> i have big problems getting herd5 x64 running on my core2duo board
[11:36] <belathor> Hi, how can I find out where an external CD drive is mounting?
[11:36] <UltimateMacUser1> <------  needs help getting sound to working on a Beige G3 Minitower (mac, PPC)
[11:36] <gyaresu> morpheusdreams: cool.
[11:36] <Vik> one more question though. do i include the ' mark with the acpi=off?
[11:36] <bruenig> Fer, #ubuntu-effects sorry my fault
[11:36] <PriceChild> Fer, bruenig #ubuntu-effects
[11:36] <Fer> hehe, thanks :)
[11:36] <gyaresu> !feisty | ceiphas
[11:36] <ubotu> ceiphas: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:36] <Fer> i forgot the -effects part of the channel
[11:36] <Fer> cheers! :)
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> Vik: no
[11:36] <Viro> gyaresu, I don't have any install CD's
[11:37] <morpheusdreams> gyaresu it came up with 2, CMI8738MC6
[11:37] <Viro> gyaresu, gotta kill the box... I can't try to figure out what's wrong with my X
[11:37] <morpheusdreams> CK804
[11:37] <morpheusdreams>  how do i know which is which?
[11:37] <karlheitz> uh ok im much to slow in reading... think irq isnt mine....
[11:37] <echonc> if i delete the partition for ubuntu how do i get rid of grub?
[11:37] <gyaresu> Viro: So get the install cd not the dvd...
[11:37] <vox754> sethk, I'm trying to manually umount /boot and it says the device is busy.
[11:37] <karlheitz> so /boot...kernel
[11:37] <karlheitz> righjt
[11:37] <Viro> gyaresu, Whats the difference?
[11:37] <karlheitz> ?
[11:37] <sethk> vox754, some program has a file open in it.  is it the current directory for any running shell?
[11:37] <LordLimecat> !botsnack
[11:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:37] <Vik> awesome thanks everyone
[11:37] <Botamis> bruenig: that didn't work. it failed
[11:37] <sethk> vox754, if not, use lsof to find out what is open in the partition
[11:37] <gyaresu> Viro: dvd has lot's and lot's of packages. Handy if you've got that disk and then want to install somewhere with no bandwidth.
[11:38] <vox754> karlheitz, yep. Apparently, what is in /boot is only used on start up.
[11:38] <bruenig> Botamis, little vague there
[11:38] <Botamis> xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[11:38] <Botamis>    customized
[11:38] <Botamis> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[11:38] <Botamis>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070309173725
[11:38] <Viro> gyaresu, u might be right there... ima dl the DVD later :)
[11:38] <regress> hey all, I have a two 4GB partitions...ubuntu is on one, and the other I formatted to ext3....the main partition is completely full. Is there a command to move all of the /usr/bin (or someother folders) to the blank partition transparently?
[11:38] <gyaresu> Viro: Install cd just get's you up and then download all the packages you want from teh interweb.
[11:38] <karlheitz> and it is very little, right?
[11:38] <sethk> vox754, karlheitz right, unless of course you reinstall grub or install a new kernel.
[11:38] <Viro> gyaresu, yep... ima do just that ;)
[11:38] <echonc> if i deleted my linux partition, how do i get rid of Grub with out screwing up my master boot record
[11:38] <orangefly> is there any reason i would lose sound....???....the speaker is turned up and ubuntu is still reading my card....
[11:38] <bruenig> Botamis, you customized the file it says, put the initial xorg in
[11:38] <vox754> karlheitz, yep.
[11:38] <Viro> gyaresu, gotta dl the CD ... anyway :DDD
[11:38] <karlheitz> hmmm
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> echonic: and install the windows bootloader?
[11:39] <gyaresu> Vik: Please let me know if it works for you. It's a common problem at the moment.
[11:39] <echonc> yes
[11:39] <morpheusdreams> gyaresu hot damn it looks like it reverted to having my non onboard card as default. got noise now :) thanks
[11:39] <echonc> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:39] <vox754> karlheitz, I have a 64 MB /boot. With two kernels. It is fine.
[11:39] <Vik> sure will thanks
[11:39] <karlheitz> before i'd do that, i'd love to finish my first linux experience
[11:39] <Botamis> bruenig: how do I do that? sry for being annoying
[11:39] <gyaresu> morpheusdreams: You are very welcome.
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> echonic: you need to use the a wondpws install CD
[11:39] <Vik>  gyaresu: sure will thanks
[11:39] <bruenig> Botamis, I assume you backed up the original one
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> Iwindows
[11:39] <karlheitz> mean, installing a second kernel
[11:39] <gyaresu> !tab | Vik
[11:39] <ubotu> Vik: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:39] <morpheusdreams> gyaresu and sorry for reposting too quickly
[11:39] <regress> hey all, I have a two 4GB partitions...ubuntu is on one, and the other I formatted to ext3....the main partition is completely full. Is there a command to move all of the /usr/bin (or someother folders) to the blank partition transparently?
[11:39] <gyaresu> morpheusdreams: Not at all.
[11:39] <Botamis> bruenig: why can't I just edit the changed file?
[11:40] <echonc> nosredkim: go into recovery console and do what exactly?
[11:40] <adrian_> hello!
[11:40] <regress> shoul I use a symlink or something?
[11:40] <bruenig> Botamis, you can if you follow the !fixres
[11:40] <Botamis> !fixres
[11:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <Botamis> I don't need to restart my X
[11:40] <adrian_> need help with changing the pages after the loginscreen.
[11:40] <regress> or...copy all of the files in usr/bin to the blank drive, and then mount the drive at ./usr/bin?
[11:40] <gyaresu> regress: You can use the livecd to boot up and then use gparted to resize the partitions. You can't move them while you use them.
[11:40] <sethk> regress, you mean while you are booted up?  it can be done but it's tricky.  Better to boot a cd and move it that way
[11:40] <orangefly> is there any reason i would lose sound....???....the speaker icon is turned up and ubuntu is still reading my card....
[11:40] <regress> ah, ok!
[11:40] <regress> gparted comes with the install cd?
[11:41] <dv_> does edgy support core 2 duo properly?
[11:41] <PriceChild> dv_, should do
[11:41] <jimmygoon> orangefly, are you on edgy or feisty?
[11:41] <orangefly> edgy....
[11:41] <gyaresu> orangefly: Do you have two sound devices?
[11:41] <LordLimecat> !ping
[11:41] <ubotu> pong
[11:41] <LordLimecat> :D
[11:41] <orangefly> no....
[11:41] <adrian_> anyone know the name of that setting or how one change it?
[11:41] <LordLimecat> !worksforme
[11:41] <gyaresu> !prefix | orangefly
[11:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:41] <dsl4546> hello
[11:41] <ubotu> orangefly: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[11:42] <sun_> how to get firefox to use mplayer and not totem?
[11:42] <orangefly> i'm thinking my card took a crap on me....
[11:42] <regress> also, crimsun gave me a good command that fixed some sound issue...something for a special ALSA fix for the ac97...it ties the master and headphone volumes together. But everytime I start it goes back to the original...is there a way to make the modprobe permanent
[11:42] <regress> ?
[11:42] <gyaresu> adrian_: Please be more verbose. What are you trying to change exactly.
[11:42] <sethk> adrian_, not sure exactly what you want to change.
[11:42] <orangefly> is there a quick way to prefix....???....i'm new to this....
[11:42] <LordLimecat> regress: was it something called alsa-mixer, or aoss?
[11:42] <jimmygoon> orangefly, type the first few letters then hit <tab>
[11:43] <LordLimecat> just curious, i have only a vague idea of how to begin fixing this, being new myself
[11:43] <orangefly> jimmygoon, ....ty....
[11:43] <belathor> How can I find out where an external CD drive is mounting? It isn't showing up in /media and it keeps giving me errors when I want to mount discs on it. I want to upgrade the firmware. But, in order to do that, I need to know where the drive is. Thanks.
[11:43] <sethk> LordLimecat, he said his sound was working, then stopped.  Not likely to be the mixer in that case.
[11:43] <eck> belathor: if it is mounted, just type 'mount'
[11:43] <sethk> belathor, type "mount", with no arguments.  it shows you all the current mounts
[11:43] <adrian_> the page after the login is done, an ubuuntu screen loads the system, not for long but it's ugly in its original form
[11:44] <regress> "modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only"
[11:44] <belathor> thanks eck and sethk!
[11:44] <regress> so...maybe not ALSA, hehe
[11:44] <LordLimecat> lol, was just curious :)
[11:44] <LordLimecat> want to learn by seeing how others fix it
[11:44] <LordLimecat> its teh joy of irc
[11:45] <LordLimecat> by the way, ubuntus gonna automagically handle the DST time thing, right
[11:45] <gyaresu> regress: You can put those on separate lines in /etc/modules
[11:45] <adrian_> gyaresu: it's the page (which says Unbuntu) before you get to your desktop. I want to change that page
[11:46] <PriceChild> LordLimecat, there's a post on planet.ubuntu.com to explain how to check to make sure that it will
[11:46] <gyaresu> adrian_: It's probable your gdm themes.
[11:46] <regress> gyaresu: just copy and past that line into my /etc/modules?
[11:47] <gyaresu> adrian_: I don't run any gnome/kde prettyness so I'm not the one to help I'm afraid but you should be able to install themes etc...
[11:47] <regress> or minus the modprobe, and put each on its own line?
[11:47] <adrian_> gyaresu: ok, i already have a theme which I Like so can I change it manually?
[11:47] <ee99ee> hi guys, just got a new server in trying to get ubuntu onto it... it's a SuperMicro dual AMD Optron box (H8DMR-i2 mobo) with the nVidia SATA2 RAID controller onboard... I setup a RAID-5 array, but when I get into the installer I only see the four seperate drives, not the one single array
[11:47] <LordLimecat> PriceChild: aim that answer @ regress :D
[11:47] <gyaresu> regress: Two separate lines for two separate modules...
[11:47] <LordLimecat> im just an observer
[11:47] <RedRose> I know you can use disown to seperate a job from the terminal, but is their another command to bind a command to the current terminal?
[11:47] <vox754> sethk, well "lsof" gives me 5000 lines, what should I look for to know how is my /boot partition busy?
[11:47] <sethk> vox754, try:  lsof | grep boot
[11:47] <gyaresu> adrian_: Gnome system prefs I guess.
[11:47] <LordLimecat> i have a few commandline questions for those willing to answer, tho
[11:47] <ee99ee> do I need to install some driver for the RAID controller? if so, how do I figure out what... I'm still googleing, but not making much head way
[11:47] <LordLimecat> anyone have a few minutes?
[11:47] <regress> "snd-intel8x0", and  "ac97_quirk=hp_only"?
[11:47] <RedRose> LordLimecat, I can answer a few
[11:47] <gyaresu> regress: No. wait. I'm wrong. I think.
[11:48] <regress> I'm not even sure what modprobe does...kind of sorry to have to use it :/
[11:48] <sun_> is totem-mozilla default embedded movie player on edgy?
[11:48] <LordLimecat> whats the smartest way (short of a ls|grep) to search filesystem from commandline
[11:48] <RedRose> LordLimecat, locate
[11:48] <ee99ee> LordLimecat: "locate" if your database is built, or "find"
[11:48] <gyaresu> regress: Yeah. One line.
[11:48] <RedRose> LordLimecat, use updatedb, which will update the locate database, then use locate
[11:48] <regress> so "snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only" ?
[11:48] <LordLimecat> awesome
[11:49] <RedRose> I know you can use disown to seperate a job from the terminal, but is their another command to bind a command to the current terminal?
[11:49] <LordLimecat> slocate popped up when i did man locate tho
[11:49] <LordLimecat> second
[11:49] <gyaresu> regress: Without the quotes. Yes.
[11:49] <LordLimecat> say i screw up my desktop, and do not wish to reboot
[11:49] <LordLimecat> and i switch to a terminal
[11:49] <karlheitz> juuuuhuuuuuuu
[11:49] <jrib> RedRose: using screen is the only way I know of
[11:49] <LordLimecat> and want to kil the WHOLE tty7 session
[11:49] <karlheitz> it works
[11:49] <LordLimecat> how do i do that
[11:49] <Believer__> when I'm trying to view a *.php page or save an image file it saves it as download.php on firefox but not on opera. How can I fix this?
[11:49] <adrian_> gyaresu: yeah system is where it should be, but i want to change only this page, the rest of of it all is great
[11:49] <vox754> karlheitz, danke schn
[11:50] <gyaresu> regress: 'man modprobe' It's how you manually and safesly load kernel modules (drivers) into the linux kernel. It actually calls two lower programmes 'insmod' and 'rmmod'
[11:50] <karlheitz> i just deleted the primary partition i build with windoews
[11:50] <regress> got it, thanks ;)
[11:50] <karlheitz> and made a new one
[11:50] <gyaresu> adrian_: I'm not the one to help on teh prettiness. Sorry.
[11:50] <regress> so just reboot with my install CD and run gparted to resize the partition? Or do I have to use the live CD?
[11:50] <regress> I suppose live, now that I think about it...
[11:50] <adrian_> gyaresu: okey, thanks anyway :)
[11:51] <non2> ubotu: it didn't work with disabeling the framebuffer.. do you have any other ideas?
[11:51] <sethk> regress, the install cd is the live cd, unless you used the alternate to install
[11:51] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell non2 about yourself
[11:51] <karlheitz> thanks a lot @ vox and co ...think the routine will now reboot  cya
[11:51] <vox754> sethk, well "grep" gave me nothing, but manually searching the 5000 lines there are only two /boot One is the /var/log/boot and the other one is this "/boot/System.map-2.6.17-11-generic"
[11:52] <Steil> Does anyone know of a good solution for a web-based media player interface (i have a headless box and I want to use it for playing mp3s and such, but I want something graphical without using xforwarding)
[11:52] <sethk> vox754, it's the second that is making the partition busy
[11:52] <LordLimecat> RedRose?
[11:52] <vox754> sethk, obviously... what what is it?
[11:52] <sethk> vox754, that's the kernel's symbol table.  I'm not sure what program would have an open file descriptor on it
[11:52] <sethk> vox754, let me see if it's open on my box.
[11:52] <regress> sethk: thanks, got it
[11:53] <holycow> Steil, setu a streaming server and use any player that supports whatever streams it supports
[11:53] <LordLimecat> stiel--
[11:53] <jimmygoon> I have a video - I open it in Totem, and Totem crashes. I know that totem can play it.. because If I don't give the window focus - aka I quickly open another window on top of it... it doesn't crash... cause I can hear it
[11:53] <LordLimecat> is using a windows based program through wine a problem?
[11:53] <sethk> vox754, don't see it on mine.  the line in lsof that shows it will have the name of the program that has it open (first column)
[11:53] <vox754> sethk, klogd      4196       klog    1r      REG        8,5   729932         16 /boot/System.map-2.6.17-11-generic
[11:53] <profx> isnt that what wine is for LordLimecat ?
[11:53] <gyaresu> LordLimecat: Specifics?
[11:53] <fleas> lol
[11:53] <LordLimecat> for his question :)
[11:53] <vox754> sethk, odd, don't you think?
[11:53] <LordLimecat> he wants a solution, and i know of a prog for win that does it
[11:53] <sethk> vox754, yes, the logging daemon.
[11:54] <sethk> vox754, it must have  needed it for some kind of log entry, but I'd expect it to close it
[11:54] <LordLimecat> because theres a great program for windows called vibestreamer which creates a flash-based media player...
[11:54] <gyaresu> LordLimecat: ... What's the problem?
[11:54] <sethk> vox754, you can try stopping and restarting the daemon
[11:54] <holycow> LordLimecat, don't bother suggesting anything that runs on wine
[11:54] <holycow> you will only have them come back asking you a billion questions
[11:54] <LordLimecat> (quote)Steil: Does anyone know of a good solution for a web-based media player interface (i have a headless box and I want to use it for playing mp3s and such, but I want something graphical without using xforwarding)
[11:54] <holycow> research native apps
[11:55] <jrib> Steil: mpd has plenty of frontends, I bet it has a web-based one
[11:55] <holycow> he can install apache and download a free flash media player
[11:55] <holycow> there are billions of them on the net
[11:55] <LordLimecat> lol
[11:55] <LordLimecat> oh o.0
[11:55] <jimmygoon> VLC yields this error message: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)      How do I fix it?
[11:55] <holycow> you can make your own quite quickly
[11:55] <LordLimecat> didnt know that
[11:55] <jrib> Steil: http://www.musicpd.org/clients.shtml
[11:55] <non2> gyaresu: i thought he was an actual human being -.-
[11:55] <root_> hi, my xubuntu installation aborted during installing software packages due to a CD-ROM error.  I can get to console, however.  can I just copy the files from somewhere or otherwise continue to install?
[11:55] <LordLimecat> non: !botsnack
[11:55] <gyaresu> non2: :)
[11:56] <Steil> jrib: thanks :)
[11:56] <pok> Hi. I have the problem of eclipse failing to boot on amd64. i've found this solution: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/68380 , but i can't apply it.
[11:56] <xexos> Ubuntu wont let me go past 1024, i can go up to 1280x1024
[11:56] <holycow> but it would still be better to have a media streamer sitting on the box and a player that can play the streams, its simpler.
[11:56] <jrib> !fixres | xexos
[11:56] <ubotu> xexos: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:56] <Fer> How can i remove the function of Shift+backspace from dumping me to the login screen?  I keep losing work cos of it when i try work with Caps :(
[11:56] <Steil> holycow: i want the music played on the box
[11:56] <Steil> i don't want it streamed
[11:56] <holycow> xexos, make sure you have the correct refresh rates setup in your xorg.conf file that controls what resolutions you have available
[11:56] <sethk> Fer, you would have to take the combination out of your X configuration
[11:57] <CaptainMorgan> I've been using Fedora as a server for my custom desktop for about 3-4 months and have never run into so many problems.. and just am not happy about the level of support the Fedora community offers.. convince me to use Ubuntu as a server...?
[11:57] <jrib> Fer: that's a xgl "feature", google for:  shift backspace xgl disable
[11:57] <holycow> steelb, played on what box?  you have a headless server.  you want it played ON THE SERVER?
[11:57] <Fer> thanks fellas
[11:57] <pok> I have this description of installing debdiff-s: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff?highlight=%28debdiff%29
[11:57] <holycow> i thought you didn't want x forwarding, which would mean you aren't actually sitting on the server  you are on a client of some sort
[11:57] <iMilad> hey every body. i started a FISH using the command "Free The Fish"  !! does anybody know how i can stop this thing? :D
[11:57] <LordLimecat> holycow, stiel, i think you can do that with the VLC web interface
[11:57] <holycow> in which  case your options are still the same
[11:57] <deepbluegene> hi i have ubuntu 6.10 installed and nvidia card.can i install beryl/compiz on my box?
[11:57] <ee99ee> okay so apparently nvidia only released RPM's of drivers for my server's RAID controller for RHEL and SuSe... anyway I can make these drivers work with ubuntu?
[11:57] <posingaspopular> yea
[11:57] <posingaspopular> !beryl
[11:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:58] <posingaspopular> !compile | ee99ee
[11:58] <ubotu> ee99ee: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:58] <Fer> question #2: any reason why my firefox is much slower in Ubuntu than in my XP?
[11:58] <LordLimecat> you can actually do pretty much anything along those lines if you set the options right
[11:58] <ee99ee> posingaspopular: they're in RPM, no source
[11:58] <gyaresu> !ipv6 | Fer
[11:58] <ubotu> Fer: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:58] <holycow> Fer, no it should be the same speed.  try removing extensions to see which one is causing it
[11:58] <holycow> ah this chan reached 1k plus users
[11:58] <holycow> neat
[11:58] <dieman>  btw
[11:58] <ee99ee> I switched over to a command line during installation and I don't see rpm as part of the installation distribution
[11:58] <holycow> when did this happen?
[11:58] <Steil> holycow: i didn't want xforwarding, meaning i wanted an interface that would run over http or something of the sort
[11:58] <c_ubuntu_novice> Hi. How can I give /home/c permission to rwx /var/www/ ? What is the full command?
[11:58] <dieman> you can check your dst at http://dst.umn.edu/
[11:58] <vox754> sethk, well, what do you know? I stopped it, and the /boot device can be unmounted. That is strange since it is a startup script, "/etc/init.d/klogd"
[11:58] <dieman> if you want to make sure you're all patched up
[11:58] <jimmygoon> anythoughts?  -  VLC yields this error message: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[11:59] <holycow> Steil, well which part of my question didn't you understand?
[11:59] <sethk> vox754, yes, definitely a bit odd.
[11:59] <non2> gyaresu: do you have casually an idea to solve my prob ?
[11:59] <ee99ee> posingaspopular: any other suggestions?
[11:59] <sethk> c_ubuntu_novice, chmod a+w /var/....
[11:59] <sethk> c_ubuntu_novice, probably you'll need sudo
[11:59] <ephesius> does anyone know why everytime i restart my laptop vmware server wants me to rerun the vmware-config script
[11:59] <holycow> Steil, if you want http based interface, AS I ALREADY TOLD YOU, install apache, then install a flash player.  there are billions on the net
[11:59] <Steil> oh
[11:59] <Fer> I'm running with 0 extensions
[11:59] <holycow> if you want http  you need a webserver of SOME sort
[11:59] <iMilad> so nobody knows how to stop "free the fish"
[11:59] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, when I try to run an ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 desktop CD, my computer locks up at the splash screen and menu.  The 5.10 CDs load, though.
[11:59] <gyaresu> non2: What was it again?
[11:59] <holycow> lighthttp might be okay too
[11:59] <c_ubuntu_novice> thanx
[11:59] <|Jason8|> Is there a way I can install 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:59] <deepbluegene> hi i have ubuntu 6.10 installed and nvidia card.can i install beryl/compiz on my box?
[11:59] <holycow> otherwise setup a streaming server, which frankly is the same thing
[11:59] <jimmygoon> holycow, he wants to be able to START the media playing on the server, not have it streamed to the client
[12:00] <Steil> the media plays on the server, not the client
[12:00] <iMilad> ephesius: have u installed vmware player before?
[12:00] <Steil> the client just controls the server
[12:00] <holycow> Steil, if your going to dicker about http vs. some other protocol, i'm not sure i care to have thet discussion
[12:00] <LordLimecat> deepbluegene: probably, but you'll A) want the drivers, and B) want to join #ubuntu-effects
[12:00] <fleas_> fleas can I have my nick back now please.
[12:00] <holycow> jimmygoon, and that makes sense how?
[12:00] <gyaresu> Steil: holycow mpd has http plugins or use a screen session and ncmcp
[12:00] <deepbluegene> LordLimecat:thanx
[12:00] <LordLimecat> or i could help ya out briefly if you gimme a sec
[12:00] <LordLimecat> :)
[12:00] <non2> gyaresu: i cannot acess any of the terminals with strg+alt+f1.. ther is just a screen of mixed colours
[12:00] <ephesius> no
[12:00] <jimmygoon> holycow, you're being rude. thats what he wants. he wants something to control his server, "and that doesn't make sense how"?
[12:01] <holycow> i'm being rude because you arent even reading what he's typing
[12:01] <ephesius> iMilad: no, i thought that could have been a problem but i reinstalled last night and its still there
[12:01] <deepbluegene> LordLimecat: sure