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Riddellyuriy: I did when you first showed it to me12:20
Riddellyuriy: I said it looks excellent12:20
yuriybut then you said you'd proofread so i was confused12:21
yuriyk thx12:21
jdongRiddell: so, ya cool with new ktorrent? :D12:21
Riddelljdong: meh12:24
jdongRiddell: <buzzword> security fix </buzzword>12:24
Riddellktorrent is in main (did I see an e-mail on ubuntu-motu), if smone wants to try and persuade the releaseteam (== tfheen) then go ahead12:24
Riddellhavin only a security fix for current versions is a bad sign, if there's a problem it needs to be fixed in all supported versions12:25
jdongRiddell: and he doesn't like the "meh backport" approach either :D12:26
Riddellwho?12:26
jdongtfheen :(12:27
RiddellI don't follow12:27
jdongtowrads fixing bugs that SRU/-security would have nightmares over12:27
Riddellbackporting new versio isn't an acceptable way to do security fixes on stable releases12:28
jdongaye, but backporting a new version solely for providing a makeshift bugfix/security is total taboo now12:29
jdongwhile we did manage to get away with it for some time12:29
Riddellnot in main I' sure12:30
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jdonghehe backports doesn't distinguish between main and universe. We're not a segregated society :)12:33
jdongwe had a dream that ALL packages -- universe, multiverse, main, restricted -- will succeed, free to link to and grep each other12:34
Riddell:)12:36
yuriyi feel like i should be sending this to some other list if we want new people helping..12:37
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Riddellyuriy: where are you sending it?12:42
yuriyso far -devel and -testers12:42
Riddellyuriy: ubuntu-motu12:42
Riddellyuriy: and I'll look at it then you can send it to -devel-announce12:42
yuriyRiddell: motu? o_O wouldn't have thought of that12:43
Riddellyuriy: ask dholbach where his bug day e-mails go12:44
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yuriyRiddell: -users? the hug day emails do go out to ubuntu-users12:55
Riddelldo it12:56
yuriyhmm for some reason i thought kubuntu-testers had an ml12:59
kwwiiso tomorrow is going to be the big decide on kdm ksplash and wallpaper day01:00
kwwiiI have a few pics to choose from...I'll let others pick which ones we use (to some extent :p)01:01
Riddellhmm, i'm stuck on a mobile connection that costs 7UKP per MB01:03
RiddellI may not be viewing many images :(01:03
Riddellstill, that means others can decide an I just upload on sunday01:03
Riddellcan we have naked dragons?01:04
nixternalI walked in this channel at the wrong time01:05
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Riddellgood question01:12
Riddellgo for both01:12
nixternalRiddell: did you take a look at the docs package?01:13
nixternalalso the KTorrent package01:13
nixternaland how much money can you send?01:13
Riddellnixternal: no, I'm on a restricted internet connection this weekend01:14
nixternalRiddell: groovy :)01:15
Riddellktorrent I'm still not too happy with01:15
nixternalRiddell: well the docs package is done, and works, builds and what not01:15
nixternalwell our current KTorrent is supposedly a security risk01:15
Riddellit will need to  be fixed in all supported distros01:15
nixternalyup01:15
Riddellmoney?01:16
nixternalI figured since I was asking questions, I might as well as that one too :)01:17
Riddellon this connection each question you ask costs meabout 10p!01:17
nixternalgahahaha01:17
nixternalI will send you money then01:17
Riddellok, half a meg used tonight, that's about 4 quid01:18
Riddellpricey for a few irc chats01:18
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nixternalheh01:19
nixternallater01:19
yuriynight Riddell01:19
yuriyi'm apparently not allowed to post to kubuntu-users. i guess i need to be subscribed01:24
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yuriy*4 ml bounces01:24
nixternalheh01:26
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manchickenAny good adept bugs need fixing in a hurry?05:30
manchickenOoh!  Who fixed the details dialog?05:31
nixternalheh, I created a patch to fix translations for Edgy docs, and I forgot to build the damn translations in the Makefile :)05:44
nixternalmhb: I am fixing that now, I will have a debdiff I will upload to that bug report and put it "Fix Comitted" :)05:44
manchickennixternal: I heard you went boom or something earlier?05:45
nixternalheh, just a little05:45
manchickenWhat's that all about?05:45
manchickenSpontaneous human combustion is a fascinating subject.05:45
nixternalyes, it is fun, you should try it sometime06:40
nixternalJucato: you ok?07:01
nixternal;p07:01
Jucatonixternal: I dunno what's happening... why chanserv keeps on giving me ops..07:02
nixternalhahahahahahahaha07:02
Jucatoreally strange...07:02
nixternalya it is07:02
Jucato:D07:02
nixternaldid you catch on?07:02
Jucatocatch on?07:03
nixternalya, /msg chanserv op #kubuntu jucato07:03
nixternalthen run it with -jucato :)07:03
nixternalI seen you as op earlier, and that is what started it07:03
nixternalI wanted to see when you start to go nuts :)07:03
Jucatolol07:04
nixternalso yes, that was me playing tricks with your mind ;p07:04
Jucatolol07:04
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nixternallol07:06
Jucatothe whole chanserv affair made me forget that I had the water running.. @_@07:06
nixternalhahahaha07:07
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JucatoO.o07:32
manchickenWe just moved into a house where we have hookups for a washer.07:32
Jucatooh07:33
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danimoRiddell: ping?10:41
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jeroenvrpseems like my dead-keys are gone (using us keyboard layout)12:22
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tomajeroenvrp: i ran into that as well12:35
tomajeroenvrp: if you have a soultion let me know ;-)12:35
jeroenvrptoma: great, so I' m not the only one12:35
jeroenvrpha12:35
jeroenvrpI'm just a simple user :-)12:35
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jeroenvrpthats why I tell it here and hopefullt the developers will wake up later on12:36
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Jucato:)12:41
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mhbjeroenvrp: well my dead keys are gone for quite some time01:31
jeroenvrpyesterday I had dead keys01:31
jeroenvrptoday after updating not01:31
jeroenvrpI am are talking about feisty off course01:32
larsiviseems to work with norwegian setup01:32
mhblarsivi: truth is, only some of the dead keys disappeared for me01:35
jeroenvrplarsivi: here in the netherlands 99% of users use an us-layout01:35
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larsivimhb: well, I haven't tried all - I usually don't need them01:44
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Jucatomhb: pong?04:43
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Tm_THmmhmmhmm.04:54
Tm_Thttp://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/agebhard/WUSB54GC/99-ralink.patch <- I'm trying if this helps with my wlan issue04:55
Tm_TPatch to network-manager IIRC04:55
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Tm_TI just add patch to debian/patches and then wrap it up to package?05:00
Jucatowill the dist-upgrade tool automatically change your repos from edgy to feisty?05:10
fdovingJucato: yes.05:11
Jucatohm...05:11
JucatoThe following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu7~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 is installed.05:11
JucatoI'm getting that error... :(05:11
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nixternalyou know what I hate, waiting 2 hours for the Edgy translated docs pkg to build, only to come to the end and crash out on a stupid firefox translation issue. this time, I am putting that up top in rules, so if it crashes I will know asap and not 2 hours later :)05:47
Jucatough!!! why is kdelibs being held back... :(05:51
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mhbJucato: still around?06:41
Jucatomhb: yes06:42
Jucatomhb: what can I do for you? :)06:44
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mhbJucato: I vaguely remember that somebody wanted to post about the testing of the new dist-upgrade tool on some forums, perhaps it wasnt you06:53
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Jucatomhb: it was me. I was telling yuriy that if ever the time comes for massive dist-upgrade testing arrives, I'll copy his e-mail announcement and post it on the forums.06:54
Jucato(kubuntuforums)06:54
Jucatobut since he has account there already, I think he's going to do it himself06:55
mhbwhat yuriys email? the one about the kubuntu-desktop bugs week?06:55
Jucatohm... lol sorry, not yuriy. it was you :)06:56
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mhbJucato: no problem06:57
mhbJucato: Jonathan told me today that the dist-upgrade tool is ready for wider testing06:58
mhbthe 1 bug is that you have to close adept manually06:59
Jucatomhb: that's sort of my problem right now... kdelibs is being held back06:59
Jucatowhen/how are you supposed to close adept manually? and how are you supposed to runthe dist-upgrade tool then?07:00
mhbJucato: okay ... I will be happy if you post the message on some forums once it works for you07:01
Jucatomhb: sure. I'll try fixing this tomorrow07:01
mhbJucato: check the wiki page about it or the logs today (I didnt have the opportunity to test it yet as I am not at home)07:02
Jucatoah ok. will do07:03
mhbJucato: thanks so much07:04
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fdovingis the new adept in edgy already?09:33
fdovingusers in #kubuntu reports that they are told a new release is available.09:33
fdovinglooks like he enabled -proposed. nevermind.09:55
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