[12:20] <Riddell> yuriy: I did when you first showed it to me
[12:20] <Riddell> yuriy: I said it looks excellent
[12:21] <yuriy> but then you said you'd proofread so i was confused
[12:21] <yuriy> k thx
[12:21] <jdong> Riddell: so, ya cool with new ktorrent? :D
[12:24] <Riddell> jdong: meh
[12:24] <jdong> Riddell: <buzzword> security fix </buzzword>
[12:24] <Riddell> ktorrent is in main (did I see an e-mail on ubuntu-motu), if smone wants to try and persuade the releaseteam (== tfheen) then go ahead
[12:25] <Riddell> havin only a security fix for current versions is a bad sign, if there's a problem it needs to be fixed in all supported versions
[12:26] <jdong> Riddell: and he doesn't like the "meh backport" approach either :D
[12:26] <Riddell> who?
[12:27] <jdong> tfheen :(
[12:27] <Riddell> I don't follow
[12:27] <jdong> towrads fixing bugs that SRU/-security would have nightmares over
[12:28] <Riddell> backporting new versio isn't an acceptable way to do security fixes on stable releases
[12:29] <jdong> aye, but backporting a new version solely for providing a makeshift bugfix/security is total taboo now
[12:29] <jdong> while we did manage to get away with it for some time
[12:30] <Riddell> not in main I' sure
[12:33] <jdong> hehe backports doesn't distinguish between main and universe. We're not a segregated society :)
[12:34] <jdong> we had a dream that ALL packages -- universe, multiverse, main, restricted -- will succeed, free to link to and grep each other
[12:36] <Riddell> :)
[12:37] <yuriy> i feel like i should be sending this to some other list if we want new people helping..
[12:42] <Riddell> yuriy: where are you sending it?
[12:42] <yuriy> so far -devel and -testers
[12:42] <Riddell> yuriy: ubuntu-motu
[12:42] <Riddell> yuriy: and I'll look at it then you can send it to -devel-announce
[12:43] <yuriy> Riddell: motu? o_O wouldn't have thought of that
[12:44] <Riddell> yuriy: ask dholbach where his bug day e-mails go
[12:55] <yuriy> Riddell: -users? the hug day emails do go out to ubuntu-users
[12:56] <Riddell> do it
[12:59] <yuriy> hmm for some reason i thought kubuntu-testers had an ml
[01:00] <kwwii> so tomorrow is going to be the big decide on kdm ksplash and wallpaper day
[01:01] <kwwii> I have a few pics to choose from...I'll let others pick which ones we use (to some extent :p)
[01:03] <Riddell> hmm, i'm stuck on a mobile connection that costs 7UKP per MB
[01:03] <Riddell> I may not be viewing many images :(
[01:03] <Riddell> still, that means others can decide an I just upload on sunday
[01:04] <Riddell> can we have naked dragons?
[01:05] <nixternal> I walked in this channel at the wrong time
[01:12] <Riddell> good question
[01:12] <Riddell> go for both
[01:13] <nixternal> Riddell: did you take a look at the docs package?
[01:13] <nixternal> also the KTorrent package
[01:13] <nixternal> and how much money can you send?
[01:14] <Riddell> nixternal: no, I'm on a restricted internet connection this weekend
[01:15] <nixternal> Riddell: groovy :)
[01:15] <Riddell> ktorrent I'm still not too happy with
[01:15] <nixternal> Riddell: well the docs package is done, and works, builds and what not
[01:15] <nixternal> well our current KTorrent is supposedly a security risk
[01:15] <Riddell> it will need to  be fixed in all supported distros
[01:15] <nixternal> yup
[01:16] <Riddell> money?
[01:17] <nixternal> I figured since I was asking questions, I might as well as that one too :)
[01:17] <Riddell> on this connection each question you ask costs meabout 10p!
[01:17] <nixternal> gahahaha
[01:17] <nixternal> I will send you money then
[01:18] <Riddell> ok, half a meg used tonight, that's about 4 quid
[01:18] <Riddell> pricey for a few irc chats
[01:19] <nixternal> heh
[01:19] <nixternal> later
[01:19] <yuriy> night Riddell
[01:24] <yuriy> i'm apparently not allowed to post to kubuntu-users. i guess i need to be subscribed
[01:24] <yuriy> *4 ml bounces
[01:26] <nixternal> heh
[05:30] <manchicken> Any good adept bugs need fixing in a hurry?
[05:31] <manchicken> Ooh!  Who fixed the details dialog?
[05:44] <nixternal> heh, I created a patch to fix translations for Edgy docs, and I forgot to build the damn translations in the Makefile :)
[05:44] <nixternal> mhb: I am fixing that now, I will have a debdiff I will upload to that bug report and put it "Fix Comitted" :)
[05:45] <manchicken> nixternal: I heard you went boom or something earlier?
[05:45] <nixternal> heh, just a little
[05:45] <manchicken> What's that all about?
[05:45] <manchicken> Spontaneous human combustion is a fascinating subject.
[06:40] <nixternal> yes, it is fun, you should try it sometime
[07:01] <nixternal> Jucato: you ok?
[07:01] <nixternal> ;p
[07:02] <Jucato> nixternal: I dunno what's happening... why chanserv keeps on giving me ops..
[07:02] <nixternal> hahahahahahahaha
[07:02] <Jucato> really strange...
[07:02] <nixternal> ya it is
[07:02] <Jucato> :D
[07:02] <nixternal> did you catch on?
[07:03] <Jucato> catch on?
[07:03] <nixternal> ya, /msg chanserv op #kubuntu jucato
[07:03] <nixternal> then run it with -jucato :)
[07:03] <nixternal> I seen you as op earlier, and that is what started it
[07:03] <nixternal> I wanted to see when you start to go nuts :)
[07:04] <Jucato> lol
[07:04] <nixternal> so yes, that was me playing tricks with your mind ;p
[07:04] <Jucato> lol
[07:06] <nixternal> lol
[07:06] <Jucato> the whole chanserv affair made me forget that I had the water running.. @_@
[07:07] <nixternal> hahahaha
[07:32] <Jucato> O.o
[07:32] <manchicken> We just moved into a house where we have hookups for a washer.
[07:33] <Jucato> oh
[10:41] <danimo> Riddell: ping?
[12:22] <jeroenvrp> seems like my dead-keys are gone (using us keyboard layout)
[12:35] <toma> jeroenvrp: i ran into that as well
[12:35] <toma> jeroenvrp: if you have a soultion let me know ;-)
[12:35] <jeroenvrp> toma: great, so I' m not the only one
[12:35] <jeroenvrp> ha
[12:35] <jeroenvrp> I'm just a simple user :-)
[12:36] <jeroenvrp> thats why I tell it here and hopefullt the developers will wake up later on
[12:41] <Jucato> :)
[01:31] <mhb> jeroenvrp: well my dead keys are gone for quite some time
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> yesterday I had dead keys
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> today after updating not
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> I am are talking about feisty off course
[01:32] <larsivi> seems to work with norwegian setup
[01:35] <mhb> larsivi: truth is, only some of the dead keys disappeared for me
[01:35] <jeroenvrp> larsivi: here in the netherlands 99% of users use an us-layout
[01:44] <larsivi> mhb: well, I haven't tried all - I usually don't need them
[04:43] <Jucato> mhb: pong?
[04:54] <Tm_T> Hmmhmmhmm.
[04:55] <Tm_T> http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/agebhard/WUSB54GC/99-ralink.patch <- I'm trying if this helps with my wlan issue
[04:55] <Tm_T> Patch to network-manager IIRC
[05:00] <Tm_T> I just add patch to debian/patches and then wrap it up to package?
[05:10] <Jucato> will the dist-upgrade tool automatically change your repos from edgy to feisty?
[05:11] <fdoving> Jucato: yes.
[05:11] <Jucato> hm...
[05:11] <Jucato> The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu7~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 is installed.
[05:11] <Jucato> I'm getting that error... :(
[05:47] <nixternal> you know what I hate, waiting 2 hours for the Edgy translated docs pkg to build, only to come to the end and crash out on a stupid firefox translation issue. this time, I am putting that up top in rules, so if it crashes I will know asap and not 2 hours later :)
[05:51] <Jucato> ugh!!! why is kdelibs being held back... :(
[06:41] <mhb> Jucato: still around?
[06:42] <Jucato> mhb: yes
[06:44] <Jucato> mhb: what can I do for you? :)
[06:53] <mhb> Jucato: I vaguely remember that somebody wanted to post about the testing of the new dist-upgrade tool on some forums, perhaps it wasnt you
[06:54] <Jucato> mhb: it was me. I was telling yuriy that if ever the time comes for massive dist-upgrade testing arrives, I'll copy his e-mail announcement and post it on the forums.
[06:54] <Jucato> (kubuntuforums)
[06:55] <Jucato> but since he has account there already, I think he's going to do it himself
[06:55] <mhb> what yuriys email? the one about the kubuntu-desktop bugs week?
[06:56] <Jucato> hm... lol sorry, not yuriy. it was you :)
[06:57] <mhb> Jucato: no problem
[06:58] <mhb> Jucato: Jonathan told me today that the dist-upgrade tool is ready for wider testing
[06:59] <mhb> the 1 bug is that you have to close adept manually
[06:59] <Jucato> mhb: that's sort of my problem right now... kdelibs is being held back
[07:00] <Jucato> when/how are you supposed to close adept manually? and how are you supposed to runthe dist-upgrade tool then?
[07:01] <mhb> Jucato: okay ... I will be happy if you post the message on some forums once it works for you
[07:01] <Jucato> mhb: sure. I'll try fixing this tomorrow
[07:02] <mhb> Jucato: check the wiki page about it or the logs today (I didnt have the opportunity to test it yet as I am not at home)
[07:03] <Jucato> ah ok. will do
[07:04] <mhb> Jucato: thanks so much
[09:33] <fdoving> is the new adept in edgy already?
[09:33] <fdoving> users in #kubuntu reports that they are told a new release is available.
[09:55] <fdoving> looks like he enabled -proposed. nevermind.