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iamsam9895Bah! Most of the people in #ubuntu are useless.12:14
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iamsam9895Anybody know why X isn't using the screen sync rates that I set in my xorg.conf?12:15
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iamsam9895Hello, anybody there?12:17
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chris___Hello?12:17
chris___Anyone here?12:17
Tm_TWe are here if mostly silent at night.12:17
iamsam9895Not really chris, I tried that.12:17
chris___:/12:18
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chris___Is WINE in the respitories up to date?12:18
Tm_TOh boy...12:18
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coreymon77DaSkreech: are you still there12:19
Tm_Tchris___: Most of the time IIRC.12:19
chris___so WINE is at the latest version when I did apt-get install wine12:19
chris___since I've heard that WINE in the resp is an older version.12:19
Tm_TI assume so, but no idea, you're in 6.06?12:19
chris___yes.12:19
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Tm_TOh boy, then you do have old version.12:20
chris___:(12:20
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chris___is it safe to just uninstall12:20
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chris___and then just use the instructions on the site12:21
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Tm_Tchris___: Should be relatively safe.12:21
chris___ok thanks.12:21
Skuller!webcam12:21
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:21
Tm_Tchris___: IF there is instructions to 6.0612:21
firemonkeyballzumm im installing an x1100 ati12:21
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firemonkeyballzand it12:22
chris___there is.  thank you.12:22
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: whats rong?12:22
firemonkeyballzis showing up as 20012:22
nosrednaekimthats fine12:22
nosrednaekimmine does too12:22
firemonkeyballzwont it underperform12:22
nosrednaekimthe xpress1100 is just a 200 with support for truion x2s and dualchannel memory12:22
coreymon77DaSkreech: hello?12:22
coreymon77!botsnack12:22
ubotuYum!12:22
nosrednaekimthat had me wondering for a while too, but no12:22
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firemonkeyballz!bottreat12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bottreat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
firemonkeyballz!botfetch12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botfetch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
nosrednaekimyou can't teach an old dog new tricks12:23
nosrednaekim:-P12:23
chris___lol12:23
firemonkeyballzwhere u been anyway12:23
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: how's 3d accel working?12:24
nosrednaekim hey..I have a life...:-D12:24
firemonkeyballzneed something to test it with12:24
nosrednaekimfgl_glxgears12:24
chris___wine works, thanks a lot.12:24
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firemonkeyballzUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer12:25
firemonkeyballzFloating point exception12:25
phiscoabout this fglrx-drivers, do you know if there is a possiblity to get a v4l app to work?12:26
Xanithdoes anyone know how to mount my storage hard drive without root-only permissions?12:26
firemonkeyballznos12:26
firemonkeyballz...12:26
firemonkeyballzfood12:26
firemonkeyballzbrb12:26
SanneXanith: what kind of drive is it, what file system, and how do you mount it?12:27
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Xanithit's a sata 250gb hd, ext3 filesystem, and i want it to mount automatically if possible12:28
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SanneXanith: does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?12:28
Xanithyea but im not sure if i did it correctly12:29
SanneXanith: can you paste it to the pastebin?12:29
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Xanithsure12:29
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greffIs there a way to create standard looking init scripts?12:29
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greffIt seems as thought everything in /etc/init.d/ is somewhat standard. I want to be able to create something that looks about the same. Catch my drift?12:30
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nosrednaekimgreff: that is possible12:30
XanithSanne: Well, I might be able to, I hit send and it's not doing anything lol12:30
SanneXanith: do you try at paste.ubuntu-nl.org?12:31
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nosrednaekim!botsnack12:31
ubotuYum!12:31
greffnosrednaekim: So, how would i do that then?12:31
XanithSanne: nope i'll do that now12:31
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nosrednaekimgreff: I did it along time ago,I don't really remember. I'm sorry.12:32
XanithSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9533/12:32
nosrednaekim!init.d12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
Hasrat_In_Officetime to go home people....take care you all :)12:34
Skullerhow can i edit my repositories using command line?12:34
nosrednaekimskuller: "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst"12:34
Skullerthanx12:34
nosrednaekimor rtaher "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst"12:35
SanneXanith: you have defaults as third option, that means, among others "nouser", according to "man mount". I have "user" as third option, so my normal user can mount the drives.12:35
nosrednaekimnano is a bit easier than vim12:35
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Skullersources.lst or sources.list?12:35
nosrednaekimsources.list....yes... sorry12:36
Xanithok so change that to user? and how can i get it to mount automatically on startup?12:36
firemonkeyballznos error12:36
firemonkeyballzUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer12:36
firemonkeyballzFloating point exception12:36
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xtavaresxhello. I have a problem, installing linux-restricted-modules-generic caused my X to break. i have an nvidia card.12:36
SanneXanith: also, according to "man fstab", you should have either "2" or "0" for the sixth field. Only the root file system should have the "1" opton.12:37
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SanneXanith: yes, tr with "user". The I'm still reading for automount. You can also check out "man mount", maybe you'll find it first ;)12:38
Skullerhow do i install softs with .deb or .rpm extensions?12:39
Skullerwhich i downloaded from the net12:39
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SanneXanith: and please type my name, so I get notified by my chat client when you say something.12:40
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XanithSanne: i think it's just auto under fstab12:40
nosrednaekimSkuller: only use .debs..if you must use .rpms, convert them with alien12:41
XanithSanne: i'm gonna try that real quick12:41
nosrednaekimto install a deb, right click on it and say "install"12:41
SanneXanith: yes, I also suspect it may be "auto"12:41
firemonkeyballznos error12:41
DrXhello, using Linux I am trying to access files on an XP PC with Norton Firewall and when the firewall is ON I can't access files on it over the network, I opened TCP & UDP ports 137-139 and 445 already, but still no luck.  If I shut off the firewall, I get access.   Nothing is being blocked except SSL.  Any ideas?12:41
XanithSanne: ok i made those changes i'm going to restart and see what happens...12:41
XanithSanne: I'll brb.12:41
SanneXanith: wait12:41
firemonkeyballzUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer12:41
firemonkeyballzFloating point exceptio12:41
firemonkeyballzI have an error12:41
XanithSanne: Yea?12:41
SanneXanith: what di you put at the end?12:41
nosrednaekimssl, corrcet me if i'm wrong, is port 2212:42
firemonkeyballzthought it was 2312:42
firemonkeyballz22 is part of ftp12:42
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: is that what fglrx says?12:42
SanneXanith: 0, 1 or 2?12:42
firemonkeyballzthat tester12:42
firemonkeyballzyea12:42
nosrednaekimor rather fgl_glxgears12:42
firemonkeyballzfgl12:42
Xanith0 112:43
nosrednaekim23?12:43
XanithSanne: 0 112:43
nosrednaekimdoes it work though?12:44
SanneXanith: the very last number should be either "2" = do regular fs checks at boot = do never fs checks. It should not be "1", that is only for the / file system.12:44
firemonkeyballztelnet is a shell12:44
Xanithok12:44
XanithSanne: ok i'll make that change real quick and then i'll brb12:44
nosrednaekimoh right... sftp is 22,I appologize12:44
SanneXanith: sorry, "0" = no checks12:44
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SanneXanith: ok12:44
firemonkeyballzdidnt run12:44
firemonkeyballzstopped12:45
nosrednaekimoh..ok12:45
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nosrednaekimdid you turn off composite in your xorg?12:45
firemonkeyballzhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually12:46
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xanithSanne: ok it seems to be mounting automatically but i still can't write to it12:47
xanithSanne: would it have to do with me making the mount point /mnt/storage?12:47
nosrednaekimgoing there firemonkeybalz12:47
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Sannexanith: that's because we#re not done ;)12:47
firemonkeyballzxanith ntfs?12:47
DigitalOktayHEllo12:48
Sannexanith: firstly, I guess you can just set the necessary permissions to (mnt/storage12:48
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz:12:48
nosrednaekimpaste your xorg.conf into pastebin12:49
firemonkeyballzoui12:49
xanithSanne: how would i do that chroot 755?12:49
firemonkeyballzumm where is it?12:49
Sannexanith: sudo chmod 75512:49
firemonkeyballzI looked where they said12:49
firemonkeyballzstarted in root12:49
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firemonkeyballzand went etc and up12:49
nosrednaekim"/etc/X11/xorg.conf12:49
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firemonkeyballzbuh nothing ws in it12:50
lipehow can i mount a ntfs partition with power to write on it ? please ?!12:50
nosrednaekimyeah.. there is...there has to be something12:50
nosrednaekimcheck again12:50
Sannexanith: if you already have files on there, you might have to give those these permissions also. If you need recursive changes, you can use: sudo chmod -R 75512:51
DigitalOktayi have a question12:51
firemonkeyballzdoh12:51
firemonkeyballzforgot12:51
lipehow can i mount a ntfs partition with power to write on it ? please ?!12:51
firemonkeyballzcase sensitive12:51
firemonkeyballzbeen up for 24 hours12:51
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nosrednaekimDigital: ask away12:52
Morbo!ntfs | lipe12:52
ubotulipe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:52
nagyv!mysql12:52
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:52
xanithneither of those gave me permission to write to it12:53
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xanithSanne: neither of those gave me permission to write to it12:53
DigitalOktaywhen ist the new relase about kubuntu here12:53
lipe!ntfs-3g12:53
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:53
nosrednaekimfiesty? april 1912:53
fyrmedicI installed kubuntu off the livecd. Is there any difference installing from .iso, better/worse?12:53
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DigitalOktayhmm realy12:53
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Sannexanith: I think we also need to change the owner. What is the outout of"ls -l /mnt/storage"? (you can paste one line here)12:54
firemonkeyballzload extmod not found12:54
xanithSanne: total 012:54
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: say again?12:54
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fyrmedicIs it better to install from ISO or LiveCD?12:54
Skullernosrednaekim: thanx12:55
nosrednaekimfyrmedic: same thing I think12:55
DigitalOktayok thanks12:55
nosrednaekimskuller: wait what did I do?12:55
Sannexanith: sorry, "ls -l /mnt"12:55
firemonkeyballznm12:55
firemonkeyballzsleep after this12:55
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nosrednaekimyeah..lol12:55
nosrednaekimgood idea12:55
fyrmedicnosrednaekim; I thought I had heard that there are some slight differences that could make a difference.  Thanks12:55
xanithtotal 8 but everything says root root12:56
nosrednaekimthe live cd is just a .iso on a cd12:56
fyrmedicok thanks12:57
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: did you pastebin it?12:58
Sannexanith: thought so. You don't have any files on /mnt/storage yet, do you?12:58
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firemonkeyballzfiremonkeyballz@fmballz-inc:/etc/X11$ fgl_glxgears12:59
firemonkeyballzUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer12:59
firemonkeyballzFloating point exception12:59
Sannexanith: please try (change "username" to the name of your user you want to be able to write to it": sudo chown username:unsername12:59
MinatakuHeads up, if you live near South Carolina, there's an amber alert12:59
nosrednaekimno..I mean your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:59
Minatakuhttp://www.weather.gov/wwamap-prd/wwatxtget.php?cwa=usa&wwa=child%20abduction%20emergency12:59
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firemonkeyballzok01:00
firemonkeyballzdone01:00
nosrednaekimwhats the link?01:01
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Sannexanith: tell me when done, I still need to tell you some things about the "user" option in fstab.01:04
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firemonkeyballzgeocities.com/douglasmck/xorg.htm01:05
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MorboUsing a pastebin would probably be easer, firemonkeyballz01:06
Morbo!pastebin | firemonkeyballz01:07
ubotufiremonkeyballz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:07
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nosrednaekimyeah..I can'tmake heds or tails of that in geocities... use pastebin01:07
jake_guys please, anybody knows the command for adept crash?01:07
nosrednaekimadpt crash?01:08
Sanne!adeptfix | jake_01:08
ubotujake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:08
jake_thanx01:08
Sannejake_: yw :)01:09
jake_guys im ubuntu user and ive installed kubuntu desktop, how do i delete the other apps from a gnome package?01:10
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nosrednaekimjake__ do have a limit of HD space?01:10
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jake_yes im coming out of space01:11
nosrednaekimok...01:11
nosrednaekimI'm not sure..... try uninstalling "ubuntu-desktop"01:12
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nosrednaekimnless it says its going to uninstall the kernel01:12
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jake_nosrednaekim: but it only unstall the gnome, im not sure...01:13
firemonkeyballzpastebin has an error01:13
jack111can someone help me how to configure guarddog that it doesnt block certain ports, like 404 for hotmail and msn messaging, which works fine without guarddog.i dont really know how i can configure this with wireshark01:13
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nosrednaekimjake_: say again?01:14
jack111nosrednaekim: you mean me?01:14
nosrednaekimno....01:14
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jake_nosrednaekim: its uncheck on my adept, its uninstalled. but the apps are still there01:15
nosrednaekimoh..ok...01:15
nosrednaekimuninstall, metacity, rythmbox, anything gtk...01:15
jake_nosrednaekim: so you think, whats the best otion?01:16
FornaxHow do I prevent the chatwindow to open (kopete) when someone type a message to me? I just want it to highlight on my toolbar. I am not sure if this is the right channel to ask this question tho. :P01:16
jake_nosrednaekim: lol that sound, tiring01:16
nosrednaekimjake__ I think there is a manifest for all packages on the ubuntu live cd,01:16
nosrednaekim!manifest01:16
Skullernosrednaekim: oh u helped me in the .deb and ,rpm software thingy.....thanx fer dat i mean01:17
firemonkeyballzhttp://rafb.net/p/WAfVSg13.html01:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about manifest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:17
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nosrednaekimskuller you're welcome01:17
firemonkeyballznos see above01:17
nosrednaekimyes..I see your problem01:18
nosrednaekimadd these lines to that file :01:18
nosrednaekimSection "Extensions"01:19
nosrednaekim        Option      "Composite" "Disable"01:19
nosrednaekimEndSection01:19
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nosrednaekimeach message is a separate line01:19
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jake_nosrednaekim: is it possible? because my first os was xubuntu and then i install ubuntu-desktop no01:20
jake_ nosrednaekim: is it possible? because my first os was xubuntu and then i install ubuntu-desktop on synaptic01:20
nosrednaekimjake_: its possible, but i'm not sure how01:20
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firemonkeyballz_firemonkeyballz@fmballz-inc:/etc/X11$ fgl_glxgears01:22
firemonkeyballz_Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer01:22
firemonkeyballz_Floating point exception01:22
firemonkeyballz_stl01:22
Jucatojake_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome or http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce (not sure what you're trying to do actually)01:22
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nosrednaekimdid you add those lines?01:22
firemonkeyballz_yes01:22
firemonkeyballz_may need to reboot?01:22
MinatakuAmber alert is cancelled, details at http://www.wyff4.com/news/11214499/detail.html01:23
carutsu!kdevelop01:23
jake_Jucato: im trying to delete the apps coming with ubuntu-desktop01:23
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB01:23
carutsuscuse me for asking this here01:23
jake_nosrednaekim: thanx a lot man01:23
carutsubut where can i ask for help in Kdevelop01:23
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz_: did you restart x?01:23
carutsu#kdevelop01:23
Jucatojake_: what do you want to leave on your system?01:24
firemonkeyballz_umm whats the command to restart x01:24
firemonkeyballz_hate to reboot entirely01:24
nosrednaekimlog out and then "ctrl+alt+bkspce01:24
Kyralnosrednaekim: you don't have to log out01:24
nosrednaekimwell its better to01:24
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JucatoKyral: it's best if he logs out first01:24
Jucatopressing Ctrl+Alt+Del without logging out is almost as bad as pressing the reset button01:25
SkullerImportError: No module named gnome.ui...help please01:25
MorboIf you're talking about what's "better", you probably should do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm01:25
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Jucatoheh :)01:26
firemonkeyballzback01:26
nosrednaekimbetter?01:26
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart too :)01:26
firemonkeyballzflc ?01:26
Morboer, yeah01:26
Morboforgot the restart01:26
firemonkeyballzor was it flx01:26
nosrednaekimfgl_glxgears01:26
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firemonkeyballzsame01:27
Skullercan sum1 please tell me how to fix this?...ImportError: No module named gnome.ui01:27
nosrednaekimtry glxgears01:27
jake_Jucato: just kde apps, is it possible?01:27
derek_Sanne: you still here?01:27
firemonkeyballzyey!01:28
firemonkeyballzblue red green01:28
nosrednaekimbut are they fast?01:28
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Skullerderek_: no he left01:28
firemonkeyballzlooks like normal speed01:28
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: are you running beryl at the moment?01:28
XanithSkuller: ok thanks..01:28
Jucatojake_: would be best if you have kubuntu-desktop installed first. but take a look at those pages I gave you :)01:28
firemonkeyballzyes01:28
Xanithdoes anyone know why my NTFS flash drive can't be mounted? lol01:28
firemonkeyballzxanth01:28
firemonkeyballzcan01:28
firemonkeyballzjust cant write01:28
nosrednaekimahh... problem solved... you can't do both 3d apps and XGL/beryl..01:29
Xanithisn't fat32 supported in linux?01:29
nosrednaekimyes01:29
Skullernosrednaekim: yea...i figured that..i cant play UT while running beryl01:29
firemonkeyballzno ntfs isnt entirely supported01:29
firemonkeyballzyou said ntfs01:29
Xanithwell if i reformat it in fat32 wouldn't it work?01:29
nosrednaekimyes01:29
Xanithok so how do u format the flashdrive in fat32 in linux?01:30
firemonkeyballzqtparted01:30
firemonkeyballzcan01:30
Xanithok i'll try that, and i have one more question and i'm done01:30
jake_Jucato: i think the site's what im looking for. ;-) thanx01:31
Skullerplease i am desperate...i installed Easycam2 to use my webcam...but it gives this error when i launch it "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"01:31
nosrednaekimare you running kubuntu?01:31
Skulleryes01:31
firemonkeyballzheh... I hate easycam01:31
nosrednaekimyou probably have a broken dependency01:31
carutsuscuse me01:31
Skullerhow do i get the dependency then?01:31
firemonkeyballzhard to find drivers if you lost em01:31
nosrednaekimstart up adept01:32
carutsui'm using kbuntu in spanish no documentation was downloaded01:32
firemonkeyballzin windows01:32
carutsuhow do i get it?01:32
carutsukubuntu-doc or something?01:32
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firemonkeyballzummm how do i fix a drive diff01:32
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Skullernosrednaekim: umm...what do i do in adept?01:33
Xanithwhy is it when i try to install anything in adept it says "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"?01:33
nosrednaekimskuller where did you install easycam from?01:33
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rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: what is a drive diff?01:33
Xanithhowever after i click ok, the program is installed and works fine01:33
jake_Jucato: hey thats it! thanx again....01:33
firemonkeyballzthe checker at boot01:33
Jucatojake_: sure01:33
firemonkeyballzsaid there was a problem01:33
Skullersudo apt-get install easycam201:33
nosrednaekimoh..ok...01:33
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rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: what filesystem type?01:33
nosrednaekimhmmm...01:33
carutsuanyone knows about the documentation01:34
Skullernosrednaekim: sudo apt-get install easycam2....and added the following repo deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main01:34
JucatoXanith: please try installing it using apt-get to see error messages.01:34
firemonkeyballzhave fat32 and ext301:34
nosrednaekimoh... thats a debian mirror... not a good idea to use debian mirrors01:35
firemonkeyballzext3 is at the end of the drive01:35
nosrednaekimyou can't find a ubuntu repository?01:35
Skulleri followed the instructions on !webcam01:35
XanithJucato: it didn't give any errors in apt-get01:35
nosrednaekim!webcam01:35
Jucatohm.. weird..01:35
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:35
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: have you tried to just reboot a second time?01:35
firemonkeyballzyes01:36
Xanithdoes apt-get have a search function as well?01:36
firemonkeyballzwasnt fixed01:36
nosrednaekimcan you still boot kubuntu?01:36
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firemonkeyballzyes01:36
JucatoXanith: apt-cache search01:36
firemonkeyballzhavent tried windows yet01:36
nosrednaekimwas the problem on your windows partition or your linux partition?01:37
Xanithpssh i think i'll start using apt-get then, adept manager sometimes i have to open it like 3 times to get it to open.. im a gentoo native user, so i'm used to terminal emerge anyway01:37
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: so it's not your root partition that has the probelme?01:37
Xanithso this is a little more home-style for me lol01:37
firemonkeyballzI could tell if the boot.log was enabled01:37
firemonkeyballzI could show you01:37
carutsui'm using kbuntu in spanish no documentation was downloaded, ho do i get it?01:38
Skullernosrednaekim: ohh...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasCreative.....easycam n easycam2 dont support my cam01:38
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: do you know which disk? e.g. /dev/hda1 ?01:38
nosrednaekimSkuller: easycam requires gnome...which you don't have01:38
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firemonkeyballznot at the moment01:39
Skullerno k substitue for it?01:39
Skullernosrednaekim: no k substitue for it?01:39
firemonkeyballzcould I run it in the konsole?01:39
Xanithis there a way to update the depositories through apt-get as well im assuming?01:39
nosrednaekimwell.. you can install the driver maually(if there is one)01:39
Skullertsk tsk01:39
Skullernosrednaekim: thnx fer the help01:40
JucatoXanith: sudo apt-get update01:40
nosrednaekimwhats your webcam model?01:40
JucatoXanith: what Adept can do, apt-get can do. because Adept uses apt01:40
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Xanithyea that's what i thought from the man entry, but i was sorta thinking it would do a world update01:40
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: what do you want to run in console?01:40
Xanithis there a command to do a world update as well?01:40
firemonkeyballzfile system cheker01:40
JucatoXanith: what's a world update?01:41
Xanithapt-get upgrade?01:41
nosrednaekimXanith: you are too much of a gentoo user:-P01:41
Skullernosrednaekim: it shows 2 types of drivers for webcams on manual installation section...which one do i choose?01:41
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: please add my name to your posts that i know when you are talking to me.01:41
Xanithlol appearently so01:41
JucatoXanith: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:41
Jucatoaaah gentoo...01:41
Xanithby world i mean everything installed lol01:41
Xanithin gentoo, it's emerge -u world01:41
nosrednaekimand pray it doesn't crash01:41
nosrednaekim;)01:41
Xanithyea lol01:41
Xaniththat's why i switched01:41
firemonkeyballznos sorry01:42
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: yes you can try to run it. But i my complain, that your hdd is mounted read write01:42
Xanithi got tired of all the compiling errors and stuff constantly breaking and crashing01:42
nosrednaekim!webcam01:42
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:42
nosrednaekimis your web cam on that supported list?01:42
Skullerno01:42
Skulleri mean01:42
Skulleryea01:42
Skullerbut it says not supported01:42
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rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: try for example fsck /dev/hda501:43
Skullernosrednaekim: k man thnx fer da help...i'll catchya l8r after lunch....01:43
nosrednaekimwell then... its not supported01:43
nosrednaekimluch wehre are you?01:43
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: you should try to run it only on non-mounted disks01:44
Xanithwhats a good way to get a transparent terminal on the desktop?01:44
firemonkeyballzrbrunhuber k so that would only be on boot01:45
neptunepinkXanith: How really transparent do you want it?01:45
Hasrat_USAXanith: run compwiz or beryl01:45
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Skullernosrednaekim: i am in fiji....time is 12:46pm01:46
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: you should reboot then and try to write down all the devices (e.g. /dev/hda7) where fsck complains.01:46
comosicusi'm in roumania time is 3 am01:46
firemonkeyballzI just touched boot.ini01:46
Xanithneptunepink: i want it just to where it has a little bit of a darkness to it, but with white text i think.. i'd have to play around with the text to see what works on my background01:46
firemonkeyballzif its configured for boot.ini01:46
firemonkeyballzer01:46
firemonkeyballzlog01:47
firemonkeyballzit should show up01:47
firemonkeyballzbuh I will get pen and paper01:47
neptunepinkXanith: you can use a schema for konsole...01:47
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: you can also try to read "dmesg"01:47
firemonkeyballzrbrunhuber01:47
Xanithyea but it still has the toolbar around it and stuff01:48
BluesKajheh, even visually oriented types can enjoy kubuntu01:48
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Xanithi just want the terminal itself with just the dark grey background terminal window01:48
neptunepinkthen there's transluecency (sp?)01:48
nosrednaekimok...later skuller01:49
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neptunepinkairc, it's under the system settings, and you have to add some lines to xorg.conf01:49
firemonkeyballz45.662447]  hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0x901:49
firemonkeyballz44.938208]  hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff01:49
nosrednaekimXanith, konsole has a transparency mode01:49
firemonkeyballzthats all I see01:49
nosrednaekimfiremonkeybalz01:49
nosrednaekimI know your problem01:49
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nosrednaekimwith your sound that is01:50
neptunepinknosrednaekim: he wants sexier transparency then that, I think :b01:50
nosrednaekimI assume you can't hear sound out of your speakers01:50
nosrednaekimneptunepink: get beryl01:50
nosrednaekim:-P01:50
firemonkeyballznos I can01:50
nosrednaekimoh..ok.. whever I got those errors, I never could01:50
nosrednaekimI have a fix though01:51
nosrednaekim*whenever01:51
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pete_i am trying to install a theme and when I type 'make' i get an error, i checked to make sure gcc is installed and it is... what should I do???01:51
pete_the error is related to a compliler **01:51
rbrunhuberpete_: read an post the output?01:52
pete_post in here??01:52
Hasrat_USAfunny thing is: i have been beryling for the past 2 weeks without any major problems of any kind but i still don't know or haven't been able to figure out exactly what to do to enable transparency lol01:52
rbrunhuberpete_: but use pastebin01:52
firemonkeyballzhrm01:52
pete_k01:52
firemonkeyballzI dont have a floppy drive01:52
rbrunhuber!pastebin| pete_01:52
ubotupete_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:52
firemonkeyballzhow do I go about removing a floppy drive I dont have?01:52
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nosrednaekimHasrat_USA: there is a section for wondows transparency01:53
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nosrednaekim(windows01:53
nosrednaekimwhich version are you using?01:53
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firemonkeyballznos sais I have a hdb aka floppy01:53
firemonkeyballzwich I dont01:53
Hasrat_USAnosrednaekim: how can i find out the version number?01:53
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rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: hdb is no floppy. fd0 would be a floppy01:54
firemonkeyballzummk01:54
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: hdb is a second harddisk01:54
pete_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9546/01:54
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pete_i did sudo because i thought that may have something to do with it01:54
firemonkeyballzwell I was playing around in the drive table01:54
firemonkeyballzearlier01:54
jake_guys can iuse beryl on s3 savage graohics?01:55
firemonkeyballzand made the mistake of putting hdb01:55
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nosrednaekimjake_ are there 3d drivers for them?01:55
firemonkeyballznos,rbrun01:55
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: say again?01:55
firemonkeyballzwell I was playing around in the drive table01:55
firemonkeyballzand made the mistake of putting hdb01:55
rbrunhuberpete_:  add the config.log please to pastebin01:55
jake_nosrednaekim: i dont know, how can i know?01:55
pete_ok01:56
nosrednaekimjake_: glxinfo01:56
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jake_nosrednaekim: ok ill try later, thanx01:56
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nosrednaekimthe fist three lines should tell you if you have direct rendering (3d) or not01:56
nosrednaekim*first01:56
rbrunhuberfiremonkeyballz: where did you write hdb to? /etc/fstab?01:57
pete_rbrunhuber: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9550/01:57
firemonkeyballzyes01:57
firemonkeyballzso I should remove it from mstab?01:57
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nosrednaekimmstab?01:58
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firemonkeyballzoh nm01:59
rbrunhuberpete_: you have to install libc6-devel package. If you read the config log. it complains about a missing crt1.o01:59
jake_nosrednaekim: "3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42" does it mean that my driver can't?01:59
firemonkeyballzfound it found the problem01:59
pete_rbrunhuber - thank you02:00
nosrednaekimjake_: is that what the command returned?02:00
Trickserhello, i am using right now adept but i get an error downloading the packages information from http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg02:00
firemonkeyballznos, rbrunhuber dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:00
rbrunhuberpete_: if you then look packages.ubuntu.com and do the search in the package for crt1.o then you find some results. the most common is libc6-devel02:00
jake_nosrednaekim:02:01
jake_name of display: :0.002:01
jake_libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4202:01
jake_display: :0  screen: 002:01
jake_direct rendering: Yes02:01
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nosrednaekimok yes... you ahve 3d acceleration.... congrats02:01
pete_rbrunhuber - i just tried apt-get, and it wasn't found02:01
nosrednaekimwhat does the next line say?02:01
pete_ah nm i will search for tha02:01
pete_that02:01
firemonkeyballznos, rbrunhuber dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:01
jake_ visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav02:01
rbrunhuberpete_: sorry libc6-dev is the right name02:02
jake_ id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat02:02
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nosrednaekimok... jake.. thats enough02:02
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Jucato!pastebin | jake_02:02
ubotujake_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:02
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pete_rbrunhuber - ok its working thanks again man02:02
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nosrednaekimwhats that mode thingy?02:02
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: whats that for?02:03
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firemonkeyballzits that hard drive error02:03
firemonkeyballzwell the drive it has a problem on02:03
nosrednaekimno....I don't think thats an error02:03
pete_rbrunhuber - configure got another error, how do I find what I need to install?02:04
firemonkeyballzsais errors remount -ro02:04
nosrednaekimI know...but I don't think that means it HAS errors02:04
firemonkeyballzk02:04
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firemonkeyballzwell guess I'll reboot02:04
firemonkeyballzhold on02:05
rbrunhuberpete_: try to read config.log yourself or post it on pastebin. I'll try to help you then02:05
vontuxwhat apt-get repository is required for kubuntu 6.10 to install kismet?02:05
nosrednaekim!kismet02:05
ubotukismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB02:05
nosrednaekimuniverse02:05
pete_kk02:05
vontuxnosrednaekim: thankyou greatly sir02:06
nosrednaekimYW02:06
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rbrunhuberpete_: Found anything?02:08
dyrnethis might sound silly but.. what gui tool do you guys use to add themes similar to using gdmsetup?02:08
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dyrnelogin themes02:09
nosrednaekimdyrne:  kcontrol->appearnace and themes->theme manager02:09
dyrnenosrednaekim: for kdm too?02:09
pete_rbrunhuber - i found that i needed g++, so i installed it, but another error popped up...02:09
dyrnenosrednaekim: thanks02:09
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rbrunhuberpete_: compiling can be really tedious. Thats why I avoid this as much as possible.02:10
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pete_heh02:10
Skullernosrednaekim: hey man...m back....you got time to help with the webcam?02:10
nosrednaekimdyrne: no..I'm not sure where you change kdm themes..02:10
nosrednaekimnot if the webcam isn't officially supported02:10
Skullernosrednaekim: http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=493...it is supported in that list02:11
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rbrunhuberpete_: try to install build-essential.02:11
pete_rbrunhuber - isn't there a single package I can get that will make sure I have everything i need?02:11
pete_rbrunhuber - aha! i remember that one ty man02:11
nosrednaekimthat link was bad skuller02:12
rbrunhuberpete_: this will not(!) help you on all dependencies though. As it's name says it has just the essential things for building.02:12
Skullernosrednaekim: link was bad?02:13
Skulleras in?02:13
pete_rbrunhuber - yeah i got the same error as last time even though build-essential got me some extra stuff02:13
Skullerhttp://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=49302:13
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nosrednaekimI fixed it... NM02:13
nosrednaekimyou had an "it" at the end;)02:14
rbrunhuberpete_: could you please post the errors (the output of make and config.log) to pastebin?02:14
pete_what is  X Libraries ??02:14
pete_okok02:14
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nosrednaekimwhats your webcam model?02:14
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rbrunhuberpete_ should be xorg-dev. You opened the jackpot if you need these though.02:15
rbrunhuber!xorg-dev02:15
SkullerCreative Webcam Vista Pro02:15
pete_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9552/ is the terminal output02:15
ubotuxorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB02:15
nosrednaekimvista? AKKK!!!not that workd!1!02:15
nosrednaekim:-P02:15
pete_the pastebin says I'm spamming :(02:16
pete_lol02:16
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pete_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9554/ is the logfile02:17
rbrunhuberpete_: if think you need to install xorg-dev package02:17
pete_ok02:17
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Skullerlol02:17
Skullerits not made for vista tho....only 98, 2000 n xp02:17
nosrednaekimthere is no vista pro...on that list02:17
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nosrednaekimI know02:18
Skullerbut Creative Webcam is there....mos prolly this one will work02:18
Hasrat_USAlol pastebin says you're spamming rofl now that's FUNNY02:18
Skullerrofl?02:18
Hasrat_USArolling on the floor laughing02:18
Hasrat_USAloll02:18
Skullerlol02:18
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jjessequick question: what is the easeist way to migrate from one kubuntu machine to another w/o loosing any information?02:19
jjessespecially tasks/mail/contacts/etc from kontact and bookmarks and stuff from konqi?02:19
jjessealong w/ podcasts02:19
nosrednaekimskuller ok....02:20
jake_guys what do i need to download, to play my mp3s?02:20
Skullernosrednaekim: i think its better i leave the webcam for xp then....thanx for ur help...i'll leave out the webcam on kubun02:20
ricardoany one play americas army on kubunto (+wine) ?02:20
Skuller!format02:20
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:20
nosrednaekimskuller don't give up!!02:20
Skuller!restricted02:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:20
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nosrednaekimits possible it works!!02:20
rbrunhuberpete_: what theme do you want to compile?02:20
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pete_rbrunhuber - ok, that install failed.... pastebin wont let me put anything else up02:21
Skullernosrednaekim: yea it is man...but i have another reason...i will use the webcam to voice chat + cam....and kopete doesnt support voice chat...so i need to go to windows to use skype anywaiz...02:21
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pete_rbrunhuber - domino is the name i'm pretty sure02:21
pete_yea02:21
Skullerpete_: try another pastebin service...one is !pastebin...another is www.pastebin.com02:22
Skuller!restricted | jake02:22
ubotujake: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:22
nosrednaekimskuller... there is skype for linux02:22
nosrednaekim!skype02:22
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto02:22
Skullerdamn i dint know that02:22
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Skullersupports voice right?02:23
nosrednaekimyes02:23
Skullerofcourse it does..lol02:23
Xanithisn't there a file in kde to make it auto-execute stuff on startup without it showing up in the taskbar?02:23
rbrunhuberSkuller: I can't believe pastebin tells one that he is spamming. This is real ridiciulous.02:23
nosrednaekimskype wouldn't be skype without it02:23
nosrednaekimrbrunhuber: did that to me earlier02:23
nosrednaekimyou just have to put in a new user name every time...02:23
nosrednaekim:-P02:23
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Bi||aBongwhy when i write the command rpm -i the console say me this command not found?02:24
JucatoBi||aBong: Kubuntu is a Debian-based distro. it doesn't use RPM's02:24
Skullerrbrunhuber: i know...sounds...dumb02:25
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pete_rbrunhuber - the xorg package keeps fucking up, I just keep getting 404s02:25
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Bi||aBongok02:25
nosrednaekim!language | pete_02:25
ubotupete_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:25
pete_whatever..02:26
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sidnelsoni cant create a custom disk particion using iso kubuntu 6.10 ? i get segment fault ...02:27
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Xanithhow do i upgrade to kde 3.5.602:28
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Xanithim running 3.4 right now02:28
nosrednaekimXanith, are you using dapper?02:28
DaSkreechcoreymon77: Yes?02:28
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nosrednaekimSkuller: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx02:29
nosrednaekimfollow that02:29
scottyAlright, I have a bit of a problem. I was trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, and I was following the steps. I edited the sources.list, I did sudo apt-get update, sudo apt get dist-upgrade, and that seemed to go fine02:29
Xanithumm, i think so, i installed version 6.0.602:29
scottybut when I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal, I get the following error message02:29
scottysudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal02:29
nosrednaekimI think 3.4.6 is only supported by edgy02:29
rbrunhuberpete_: you could try to change the language of the mirror for a moment. Do you know how to edit /etc/apt.sources.list?02:29
scottyerr, whoops02:29
nosrednaekimscotty pastebin it02:29
pete_rbrunhuber - heh i feel dumb - I just had to apt-get update02:29
scottyPackage kubuntu-desktop is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:29
scottyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:29
scottyis only available from another source02:29
scottyE: Package kubuntu-desktop has no installation candidate02:29
scottyoh, sorry nosrednaekim02:29
nosrednaekimno problem02:29
Xanithnosrednaekim, i installed 6.0.6 which i think i determind was dapper02:30
pete_rbrunhuber - ok let me try the configure one more time02:30
Skullernosrednaekim: it says for edgy it should work out of the box...bt it doesnt02:30
nosrednaekimit says that?02:30
nosrednaekimoh..ok02:31
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nosrednaekimgreat!!02:31
rbrunhuberpete_: i have round about 2 hours battery power left. so this is the maximum timebox :-)02:31
nosrednaekimnothing like a ticking time bomb...02:31
pete_rbrunhuber - im lucky to get that on a full charge02:31
nosrednaekim:-P02:31
scottynosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9558/02:31
firemonkeyballznos fskfix isnt enabled atboot... so this meants its not fixing it?02:31
pete_rbrunhuber - ok the config errored again cuz of Qt02:31
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rbrunhuberpete_: make a sharp guess what do you think you need now?02:32
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Xanithso no one ever told me how to get kde 3.5.6 to install?02:32
pete_lol02:32
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Skullerinstalling skype is another headache...my adept just hung up after adding the repo02:32
Skuller!adeptfix02:32
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:32
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rbrunhuberXanith: Add some extra repositories on edgy . and the old apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade thing.02:33
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nosrednaekimscotty: I have to go, somebody else will handle your prblem02:33
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scottyalright02:33
nosrednaekimsorry02:33
firemonkeyballzl8r nos02:34
scottyno problem02:34
nosrednaekimyep02:34
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Xanithi added a shit load of repositories already but maybe i missed one i needed02:34
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rbrunhuberpete_: sorry this was not so easy. I think you need libqt3-mt-dev02:36
pete_rbrunhuber - thanks i was searching the trolltech website with no luck02:37
rbrunhuberpete_: you should really try to stick to the repositories as close as possible. or you will really mess up your machine.02:38
qexanyone from sweden that are good of c coding???02:38
jjesseespcially wehn you upgrade02:39
pete_rbrunhuber - i only download off the repos, but i didnt know the name of the package... i thought that was where it might be02:39
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rbrunhuberpete_: i'm sorry i thought there was a package called qt-dev. and then this would be really easy.02:40
qexany one knows what the problem is? with this......02:40
qexline 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('02:40
qexline 7: `char *randstr(int);02:40
pete_its all good02:40
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c0nv1ctqex, what are you running when you get that error?02:41
rbrunhuberpete_: Any progress?02:43
Xanithis kde 3.5.6 not compatible with dapper?02:43
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eLyOkKoosaludos02:43
eLyOkKooalguien me puede ayudar02:43
pete_rbrunhuber - nah, the package downloaded without problems but the configure thing is still stopping because of something wrong with qt02:44
pete_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9560/02:44
pete_rbrunhuber - you want to see the logfile?02:44
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rbrunhuberpete_: kde-devel02:45
pete_ok02:45
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rbrunhuber!kde-devel02:45
ubotukde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB02:45
pete_hmm02:46
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rbrunhuberpete_: i just wanted to see how big this is but it's just a metapackage which pulls in other packages.02:47
pete_yeah, its pretty big, only at 50% right now02:47
rbrunhuberpete_: what link do you have?02:47
pete_what do you mean by link?02:48
pete_i just did apt-get install if thats what youre asking02:48
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skupoespaol?02:49
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rbrunhuberpete_: your bandwidth02:50
xenaliseAnyone here had problems with squirrelmail + courier/postfix?02:50
pete_oh, cable at my buddie's cafe02:50
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pete_usualy i can get 700kb/sec, but that depends on how many people are her02:50
pete_e02:50
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pete_rbrunhuber - configure just finished without error!02:52
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rbrunhuberpete_: try to install checkinstall02:52
pete_rbrunhuber - ok, should i just run that when im done with make?02:53
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Jucato!compile02:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:53
rbrunhuberpete_: run it instead of make install. this will give you a deb package you can install. so you can get rid of the domino thing if you do not like it02:54
Complejacanal02:54
Complejaen espaniol?02:54
Compleja:/02:54
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pete_no se02:54
Compleja:(02:54
Complejacanal en espaniol ? :(02:54
Jucato!es | Compleja02:55
ubotuCompleja: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:55
skupo;)02:55
Complejajucato02:55
Complejathnks u :D02:55
Compleja=*02:55
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Hasrat_USAif i buy a TV in the USA, how can i watch free channels using an antenna without subscribing to a cable company?02:56
rbrunhuberpete_: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall02:56
Gh0st75anyone know what chan to find help for gtkpod?02:57
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DaniwanAnyone in here familiar with linuxPAM?  If so can you guide me twords some complete documentation that explains what would cause the error "Authentication information cannot be recovered" to be returned from pam_authenticate()?02:57
pete_rbrunhuber - its working man :)02:57
DaniwanHasrat you cant02:57
DaniwanThere is no more free tv in america02:58
DaniwanWell, very little remains.  You normally can not pick it up with the rabit ears02:58
pete_the readme for installing the theme says i can run makeclean, is there an equivilent for what you had me do?02:58
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rbrunhuberpete_: you still can run make clean. it just cleans up all those compiling leftovers. make clean does not conflict with checkinstall.02:59
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firemonkeyballz!realtek02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
pete_rbrunhuber - cool man i'm all set and the theme works - i really do appreciate your help03:00
asdf0hi, (k)ubuntu 6.10 wont start the x-server with a geforce 8800, will feisty herd 5 start x with it or do i need the alternative cd and go text mode ?03:00
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rbrunhuberpete_: What was the theme for? beryl?03:01
rbrunhuberpete_: you are welcome.03:01
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pete_rbrunhuber - its just a kde theme03:02
Gh0st75is there any way to convert an ipod with hfs+ formatting to fat WITHOUT using a windows machine with itunes?03:03
Gh0st75i scrapped my windows installs prior to getting the ipod03:04
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_Daisuke_Ido_doesn't it read as a standard usb drive?03:06
asdf0Gh0st75: copy stuff to pc, format ipod, copy stuff back =03:06
_Daisuke_Ido_or is that something ipods don't do...03:06
MinatakuHeya, Dai03:06
_Daisuke_Ido_evenin' Mina03:06
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: nope ipods can't do that03:06
MinatakuCheck out this uname output from one of my machines03:06
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MinatakuA/UX Sasuke 3.0.1 SVR2 mc6804003:06
_Daisuke_Ido_ouch03:06
Minataku:D03:06
_Daisuke_Ido_heh03:06
_Daisuke_Ido_get the new hardware?03:06
MinatakuThis thing is from 199703:07
MinatakuOr thereabouts03:07
rbrunhuber_pete_: sorry this battery aplet cheated me.03:07
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nosrednaekimhaha03:07
nosrednaekim you out?03:07
MinatakuIt's a Macintosh Quadra 65003:07
_Daisuke_Ido_ah03:07
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_Daisuke_Ido_i'm really tempted to try beryl again...03:07
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_Daisuke_Ido_but every time i do it looks like...  bleh03:07
Gh0st75i tried to format the ipod under kubuntu before and wasn't able to resore it, had to get a friend with a mac to restore it using itunes03:08
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: 1.999999 is out now03:08
Gh0st75but of course it was restored to mac format, hfs+03:08
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nosrednaekimGh0st75: better use a freinds pc with itunes03:08
asdf0Gh0st75: i think amarok can do some ipod interaction, dont really know for sure coz i dont have an ipod ;)03:08
Gh0st75the only people i know with ipods are mac users03:08
nosrednaekimoh..ok03:08
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_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: does it fix text issues?  because even with the dpi flag, it wasn't looking right :(03:09
Gh0st75to use something in linux i'm dependant on windows, love the irony, lol03:09
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nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: I don't know..never had problems with text03:09
_Daisuke_Ido_Gh0st75: check out GTKpod, there are a few other ipod utilities03:09
Gh0st75gtkpod is what i already have installed03:09
_Daisuke_Ido_ah03:09
_Daisuke_Ido_i don't own one, so i'm only of limited if any help03:10
Gh0st75it can't write to the ipod because of the read-only format03:10
nosrednaekimbut 1.999999 looks pretty sweet..03:10
nosrednaekimGh0st75: don't you now anybody that uses windows?03:10
_Daisuke_Ido_however, i would like to take this opportunity to promote sandisk's sansa e200 line of mp3 players >_>03:10
qexwhat is the problem with this c code? it does not work! :/03:10
qexline 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('03:10
qexline 7: `char *randstr(int);03:10
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_:  I would promote that too03:10
Minataku_Daisuke_Ido_: Hear here03:10
MinatakuI have an m240 myself03:10
qexchar *randstr(int);03:11
qexvoid exit_proc(void);03:11
MinatakuBought it on impulse with Xmas cash03:11
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: thanks for letting me know about the new beryl, might have to give it a go.  is it up in the repos?03:11
asdf0(k)ubuntu 6.10 wont start the x-server with a geforce 8800, will feisty herd 5 start x or do i need the alternative cd and go text mode ?03:11
nosrednaekimqex: wrong channel03:11
MinatakuBest Buy had a bin full of them03:11
Gh0st75of my circle of friends, they mostly have converted from pc to mac in the past few months....vista driving them all away, lol03:11
qexmust be invited to C channel.. so where to go??03:11
_Daisuke_Ido_that's what i like to hear!  i'd rather see them switch to a linux distro eprsonally, but mac's better than windows.03:12
Gh0st75i'll have to download a copy of xp....should take about 2 days on my conx, and will be installed for about 5 mins, lol03:12
Aiwuui want to stop gaim and konversation when i log in... but i cant, anybody knows?03:12
_Daisuke_Ido_Gh0st75: would you be able to do it in vmware?03:12
Gh0st75i've tried to promote the buntu's to my friends but most don't want to have to tinker with their comps much03:12
nosrednaekimAiwuu: what do you mean by stop?03:12
rbrunhuberqex: there must be billions of c channels on irc. why just not try to google?03:13
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Aiwuuamm... well, when i start KDE those apps start :s03:13
Gh0st75um, i dunno....probably....would still need the tho wouldn't i?03:13
Aiwuubut i dont whant ><03:13
Gh0st75er the cd03:13
hyperactivecronduh i think kopete has a nice bug03:13
_Daisuke_Ido_i got to a point where i don't really *need* to tinker, i just like to :)03:13
hyperactivecrondit claims i'm online03:13
hyperactivecrondbut no contacts show...03:13
hyperactivecrondthis is on a (minty) fresh install03:13
nosrednaekimaiwuu, close them and when you log back in they shouldn't be there03:13
rbrunhuberAiwuu: Tried to stop them log out and relogin in?03:13
Bi||aBongwhen i run the ati driver the graphic windows i can't see this in the real size beacause my resolution is 640 x 480 and i can't change to higher resolution, how i can solve this?03:14
Gh0st75aye, that's why when i get my macbook in a few weeks i'll be putting ubuntu on a partition for when i do want to tinker03:14
_Daisuke_Ido_hyperactivecrond: it defaults to "don't show offline contacts"03:14
Aiwuuno no!, when i log in KDE those programs autostarts :S03:14
hyperactivecrond_Daisuke_Ido_: yeah but contacts ARE online03:14
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: I know what you're saying about tinkring03:14
_Daisuke_Ido_ouch03:14
hyperactivecrond_Daisuke_Ido_: gaim works fine03:14
_Daisuke_Ido_actually played with enlightenment dr1703:15
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: thats the epitomeof tinkering03:15
_Daisuke_Ido_it's very pretty.  but not quite ready for prime-time03:15
Aiwuui dont want to autostart those apps :)!...03:15
jake_guys please help, when i try to select beryl as windows manager, it wont, i mean it doesnt03:15
_Daisuke_Ido_incredibly responsive too, for the amount of eye candy03:15
qexhttp://rafb.net/p/I11eTI60.html03:15
hyperactivecrondAiwuu: is there anything in ~/.kde/Autostart?03:15
Aiwuunope03:15
Mena!icewm03:15
ubotuicewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.28-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 666 kB, installed size 1696 kB03:15
JucatoAiwuu: completely close them before you logout03:15
Aiwuuok ok03:16
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nosrednaekimjake: where do you select it?03:16
JucatoAiwuu: make sure they're not running even in the system tray03:16
Aiwuuok i will try03:16
Minatakujwm is nice, IMO03:16
Aiwuubrb03:16
_Daisuke_Ido_!jwm03:16
ubotujwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 268 kB03:16
_Daisuke_Ido_ooh03:16
rbrunhuberAiwuu: you could also try to rename ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc03:16
MinatakuMotif look, Win95 operation03:16
nosrednaekim82 KB?03:16
MenaWhat is the diffrence bettwen the icewm , beryl03:16
Gh0st75before i try to get a windows install working again.....can i fix grub without reinstalling the whole kubuntu os?03:16
nosrednaekimWOW!03:16
Gh0st75i just know windows will mess up my bootloader again03:16
Bi||aBonghow i can install ati driver in console mode (no graphic)?03:17
nosrednaekimwhy don't you install windows in vmware?03:17
MinatakuGh0st75: Yes03:17
nosrednaekimBillabong03:17
Gh0st75never used vmware03:17
Gh0st75i'm all for tryin it tho03:17
_Daisuke_Ido_Mena: the difference between icewm and beryl is the difference between a nilla wafer and a box of chocolate coated ginormous double-chocolate chocolate chip cookies03:17
MinatakuAnd Windows only overwrites the MBR when installed03:17
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nosrednaekimyeah... its probably better for your use03:17
rbrunhuberBi||aBong: which one?03:17
jake_nosrednaekim: in the panel, i rightclicked it and there's kde and beryl to select but when i try to click on beryl it wont03:17
MinatakuAfter that it only will if asked to03:17
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nosrednaekimwhat does it do when you sleect beryl... anything at all?03:18
MinatakuThen again Vista might actively try to destroy GRUB, so who knows03:18
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Gh0st75ok, so i'll have to learn how to use vmware, tho it's gonna take me a couple days to get xp downloaded before i can try03:18
MinatakuMS is feeling the heat with their newest failure03:18
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Mena_Daisuke_ido, heheh ok :)03:18
Aiwuuthanks XD03:18
FaLc[ON] 2hi all03:18
Aiwuusorry but im newbie at linux XD03:18
_Daisuke_Ido_Mena: non-chocoholic terms: icewm is light and fast, but simple, beryl surpasses vista as far as eye candy.03:19
_Daisuke_Ido_!beryl03:19
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:19
BluesKajBi||aBong,s ystem settings / monitor &display/ hardware /admin mode / configure graphics card , choose fglrx in the drop down list , then config monitor mfg model and back to rtesolution slider , set to what res you want and then apply...you may have to reboot for settings to kick in.03:19
Mena_Daisuke_ido, ok :)03:19
hyperactivecrondit's the curse of ATI..03:19
Gh0st75beryl looks awesome, it's definately gonna be my next major nix project to learn03:19
FaLc[ON] 2sorry guys ... there is way to disable kwallet password when i login into messenger with kopete?03:20
Gh0st75the curse of ati? you mean ati and beryl don't play well together?03:20
FaLc[ON] 2it's very boring03:20
angasuleati doesn't play well with anything03:20
nosrednaekimno, they work, but its the curse of having to install ati03:20
Bi||aBongi want install the ati driver all in the console, i don't want graphic aplication to install this?03:20
BluesKajGh0st75, it can but getting it set up is a chore03:21
Gh0st75i think i still have an older geforce card i might be able to replace my ati 9600 pro with03:21
jake_nosrednaekim: nothing03:21
rbrunhuberBi||aBong: again: Which one? The proprietary or the free one?03:21
nosrednaekimhmm... thats odd... are you using XGL, or AIGLX?03:22
AiwuunVidia is better for linux?03:22
rbrunhuberBi||aBong: what card do you have?03:22
Bi||aBongi want the ati driver the proprietary03:22
nosrednaekimAIwuu yes...03:22
rbrunhuberAiwuu: Far better03:22
Aiwuu><03:22
Aiwuui have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 ><03:22
rbrunhuberBi||aBong: aptitude install fglrx03:22
nosrednaekimAIwuu don't worry.. it'll work03:22
nosrednaekimthats what I have03:22
Aiwuui know03:22
firemonkeyballzaiwuu03:22
firemonkeyballzhave solution03:22
jake_nosrednaekim: do i have to restart my system? to run beryl?03:22
Aiwuuyes?03:22
FaLc[ON] 2you are very engaging this night03:22
rbrunhuberAiwuu: If you have a choice use nvidia.03:23
FaLc[ON] 2good night ... see u :D03:23
firemonkeyballzhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually03:23
nosrednaekimjake_: are you running XGL or BEryl?03:23
jake_beryl03:23
nosrednaekimI mean XGL or AIGLX sorry03:23
jake_xgl03:23
firemonkeyballznos how do you fix that audio bug?03:24
rbrunhubernosrednaekim: is there a way to use aiglx with an ati card?03:24
nosrednaekimrbrunhuber: only older ones03:25
Aiwuuaff, i cant change my keyboard layout in my xglsession :S (KDE) and in #ubuntu-effects nobody answers!XD, maybe here somebody know why?:P?03:25
rbrunhubernosrednaekim: thats ok have 9600 mobile here.03:25
jake_do i have to install AIXGL?03:25
rbrunhuberAiwuu: depends on your start method.03:25
firemonkeyballznos cuz it seems that alsa and esd is installed already and configured03:25
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: http://www.nosredna.net/TikiWiki/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1103:26
nosrednaekimmy blog03:26
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nosrednaekimjake_: no03:26
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Aiwuurbrunhuber, i start xgl with KDM :S03:27
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jake_nosrednaekim: so what do i have to do? do i have to reboot my system?03:27
nosrednaekimare you logged into an xgl session?03:27
jake_no, do i have to?03:28
nosrednaekimyes...03:28
firemonkeyballznos so you want me to make etc/modprobe.d ?03:28
nosrednaekimyes.. thats what it says03:28
jake_ok ill try03:28
nosrednaekimdo you have an entry for that in KDM?03:28
firemonkeyballzk kuz theres no space between sound03:29
firemonkeyballzand d/03:29
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: what?03:29
firemonkeyballzthe argument looks weird03:29
firemonkeyballzto me03:29
firemonkeyballzatleast03:29
rbrunhuberAiwuu: add this line with your country identifier to the start script. Here the identifier is "dk". setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout dk -variant basic03:29
firemonkeyballzfile /etc/modprobe.d/sound containing:03:29
firemonkeyballzthats what I see03:30
rbrunhuberAiwuu:  there are some more hints here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting#Wrong_keyboard_layout03:30
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz:  you already had a /etc/modpobe.d/sound?03:31
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firemonkeyballzooo... you should move containing down a line03:31
posingaspopularis there a way to get gnometrics on kubuntu without breaking kde completly?03:31
voidmagecan knetworkmanager be setup to run a script upon connecting to wireless network X?03:31
posingaspopularvoidmage: yes it can03:32
posingaspopularmy brother wrote a script to do so, duno where he is today though03:32
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voidmagehmm03:32
Aiwuuso i will use: setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout latam -variant basic  (latam? or is es?)03:32
voidmagecan't really test much until i get my laptop03:32
voidmagethough03:32
voidmage:P03:32
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: oh I read you03:32
Aiwuurbrunhuber, mmm the start script in /usr/bin/startkdexgl.sh ? or the .desktop one?03:33
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rbrunhuberAiwuu: can't remember you'll have to try but i think it was the startkdexgl.sh03:34
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Aiwuuok thank you;)03:35
Bi||aBongi want install first the free ati driver, how i can do this?03:35
_Daisuke_Ido_wish me luck03:35
Bi||aBongwhere i can found the free version?03:35
nosrednaekimBi||bong its automatically installed03:35
posingaspopulari love how i help people on this chan whenever i have the answer to their questions but no one answers mine...03:36
rbrunhuberBi||aBong: did you install fglrx?03:36
Aiwuui will log in my KDE-XGL session and i will check ;)03:36
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secleinteerhi, is there any way to increase the max volume in kmix? i already have everything turned up all the way03:36
voidmagesecleinteer: turn up your speakers?03:36
secleinteeras i said, i have already turned up everything as much as possible03:36
Bi||aBongi don't install fglrx03:37
hyperactivecrondsecleinteer: try alsamixer03:37
hyperactivecrond(from commandline)03:37
firemonkeyballznos about that fsck at boot.. its saying my etc3 file system doesnt match the backup03:37
nosrednaekimok..so you can't start X Bi||aBong?03:37
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: thats interesting...03:37
secleinteerhyperactivecrond: both are at 100, master and pcm03:37
firemonkeyballzdosfsck is ok03:37
voidmageBi||aBong: then if you don't have fglrx installed, just change your driver in the "Device" section to 'radeon'03:37
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz:  any succss with myaudio patch?03:38
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firemonkeyballzyea just did it03:38
firemonkeyballzjust need to reboot03:38
nosrednaekimok.03:38
firemonkeyballzim sure it should work with a realtek hd03:38
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: worked for me same chipset03:39
firemonkeyballzacer is so predictable03:39
firemonkeyballzlol03:39
Bi||aBongyes i do this, but my higher resolution is 640 x 48003:39
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firemonkeyballzumm i installed the radeon controlls03:39
voidmageBi||aBong: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:39
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firemonkeyballzgoing to see if they work03:39
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: so unpredictable predictable03:40
voidmagecheck any resolutions your monitor can handle03:40
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voidmageand then try it03:40
Aiwuuaff :S the same problem :S03:40
_Daisuke_Ido_well...  beryl is running.  microscopic text, and there are no window borders.03:40
nosrednaekimno window borders? XGL or AIGLX?03:41
_Daisuke_Ido_XGL03:41
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voidmage_Daisuke_Ido_: Do you have emerald installed?03:41
_Daisuke_Ido_yes03:41
_Daisuke_Ido_installing the emerald-themes package though03:41
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_Daisuke_Ido_since emerald only includes one by default03:41
voidmageYeah, you need themes for emerald to do stuff03:41
BluesKajBi||aBong, try this for fglrx binary driver installation : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-203:42
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: are you sure you are actually in XGL though?03:42
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intelikeyi'm wanting to run this really badly; apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep 'language-pack-' | cut -d ' ' -f 3 `        somebody help me leave language support installed.....03:42
Aiwuuhow i change the model of my keyboard with "setxkbmap"?03:42
firemonkeyballzumm where did the radeontool install geee03:42
_Daisuke_Ido_would everything be all wobbly if i weren't?03:42
nosrednaekimis everything all wobly?03:42
_Daisuke_Ido_other than the no titlebar and mini text, it looks like beryl's supposed to03:42
nosrednaekimoh..ok..03:43
_Daisuke_Ido_windows wobble when i move them03:43
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: although its slighty unstab;e, I recomend aquamarine03:43
nosrednaekim!aquamarine03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
Aiwuuhow i change the model of my keyboard with "setxkbmap"?03:43
_Daisuke_Ido_i actually installed that03:43
_Daisuke_Ido_how would i switch to that instead of emerald?03:44
_Daisuke_Ido_i got it03:44
voidmagein beyrl-manager, if beryl is running03:44
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voidmageunder the "select window decorator" menu03:44
voidmagepick aquamarine03:44
nosrednaekimyes...thanx03:44
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intelikeywhat color is an emerald ?03:44
voidmagegreen, i think03:44
nosrednaekimyeah.. its green03:45
intelikeythat was a trick question.  they come in ever color from clear to black03:45
BluesKajlight green with a slight bieish tinge03:45
BluesKajbluish03:45
ComplejaBye all... nos vemos....03:45
firemonkeyballzook im stumped all how do you run the radeon tool03:46
nosrednaekimCompleja: adios03:46
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BluesKajdid you download it fro ati , firemonkeyballz?03:46
intelikeyopaque yellow is highly common. as well as blue green and red.03:46
firemonkeyballzno adept03:46
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nosrednaekimradeon tool? why do you need that?03:47
_Daisuke_Ido_note to self, don't do that.03:47
BluesKajit should be installed03:47
_Daisuke_Ido_now to fix beryl :(03:47
Aiwuuhow i change the model of my keyboard with "setxkbmap"?  :S03:47
_Daisuke_Ido_i changed my window manager in beryl-manager from compiz to beryl.  now i realize that wasn't such a good idea.03:47
nosrednaekimwhy not?03:48
BluesKajati control right, firemonkeyballz ?03:48
firemonkeyballzI belive thats what it is03:48
nosrednaekimaticontrol is a command line utility03:48
nosrednaekimoh yes... NM03:48
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: went to an all-white screen03:48
nosrednaekimyikes!!03:48
nosrednaekimnever had that happen03:48
BluesKajit resides in the Kmenu when installed , nosrednaekim03:49
intelikeyGenerating locales...03:49
nosrednaekimyes..I just releized that BluesKaj03:49
intelikeyfor the next four hours.03:49
BluesKajnosrednaekim,it's buggy tho03:49
nosrednaekimI've know THAT for a while...;)03:49
_Daisuke_Ido_should i try with AIGLX?03:50
nosrednaekimnot if you have an ATI...03:50
firemonkeyballznos radeon tool is for the backlight03:50
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firemonkeyballzof your monitor03:50
intelikeyeeek  is ubiquity  supposed to be installed ?03:51
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firemonkeyballzjust looked it up again03:51
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: nvidia gf 760003:51
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: you can change the brightness in  software tool?03:52
qexanyone knows why i cant play avi files?03:52
firemonkeyballzwont run03:52
nosrednaekim!avi03:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:52
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: I'd use AIGLX yes03:52
Aiwuuforget it... setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout latam -variant basic this is the command XD03:53
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: do you not have a increase/ decrease brightness keys on your laptop?03:53
firemonkeyballznos Im trying to set up the controll pannel like windows had03:54
nosrednaekimoh..ok03:54
firemonkeyballzsuppose theres an easier way03:54
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intelikeyfire* ? why like windholes ?03:55
firemonkeyballzno im just a control freak03:56
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: there is the command line version "aticonfig"03:56
ecetahmazHi how can i see my ip address by shell? and how can i see/control my open/close port?03:57
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nosrednaekimecetahmaz: ifconfig03:57
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: ifconfig shows your IP03:57
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: iptables is your firewall03:57
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: configuring iptables without experience wont be easy, find a GUI tool03:57
jake_nosrednaekim: sorry but where can i find the login for xgl?03:58
ecetahmazc0nv1ct   thanx03:58
firemonkeyballznos doesnt controll the brightness and contrast03:58
c0nv1ctjake_: what do you mean by 'the login', GDM?03:58
Mena!3D03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
intelikeyecetahmaz unless you specifically open ports there are probably none open.03:58
c0nv1ctintelikey: or they are ALL open :)03:58
MenaIs there a program for makeing 3D on linux03:58
intelikeyno03:58
Menamaking*03:59
Menaok03:59
jake_because i want to use beryl, but do i have to login using xgl?03:59
nosrednaekimjake_ in KDM (login manager) there should be a separate entry under  "sessions"03:59
nosrednaekimMena: what do you meanby making 3d?03:59
BluesKaj!3D03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
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c0nv1ctjake_: if you have nvidia, you dont need xgl03:59
intelikeyc0nv1ct open port implies that something is listening on that port.   nothing in linux defaults to do that.     kdm or gdm may open a port for remote desktop if you tell it too04:00
MenaDo Animations04:00
nosrednaekimjake_ has an ati04:00
nosrednaekimmena: blender04:00
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jake_nosrednaekim: but xgl doesnt appear, only kde and failsafe04:00
Menanosrednaek, ok04:00
jake_i have savage s304:00
Menanosrednaekim,* ok04:01
nosrednaekimjake_. sorry... forgot, yes.. youdon't need XGL04:01
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nosrednaekimi'm not sure why beryl isn't working, try running "beryl-manager" from the command line04:01
Aiwuuits normal if i have some "black screens" in xgl?XD04:02
jake_nosrednaekim: so how can i fix this? beryl doesnt select as window manager04:02
nosrednaekimAiwuu: before starting beryl, yes.. that happns to me04:03
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nosrednaekimjake_ just start up a normal session, kill any beryl managers running (little red diamond)04:03
qexhow does i get a avi player in ubuntu?? pleas help me!!!!04:03
nosrednaekimthen pull up a konsole and type "beryl-manager"04:03
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nosrednaekim!avi | qex04:04
ubotuqex: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:04
jake_nosrednaekim: that's it?04:04
qexthx ubotu04:04
ecetahmazintelikely/c0nv1ct I want to control my ports. i ve gotta use ftp and remote desktop next week04:04
Aiwuuokok nosrednaekim, i get somes too but im talking when a nother app makes a highlight or something like that :;P04:04
kawaHi, has Anybody got this WLAN-card to work with WPA ?  Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL388604:04
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nosrednaekimprisms are good at linux support I've heard04:04
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: by default, ubuntu doesnt block anything04:04
nosrednaekimjake_ yes04:05
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: if you run a ftp server, and tell gdm to allow remote connections, it should be open04:05
mjunxby default, linux doesn't block anything period04:05
nosrednaekimsee if that konsole puts out any error messages04:05
mjunxport-wise04:05
c0nv1ctmjunx: some distros have a default firewall, usually stateful packet filtering04:05
mjunxits firewall (iptables) along with any others (e.g. pf) don't filter anything by default that is04:05
mjunxo rly? that's not default linux though, is it? ;p04:05
c0nv1ctdefault linux is just a kernel04:05
Aiwuuand a console?04:06
c0nv1ctdefault iptables does not block anything, that is correct04:06
mjunxyeah, and the kernel comes with a firewall04:06
mjunxrighto04:06
ecetahmazC0nv1ct i need to close all my port and after i will open some of them manually04:06
firemonkeyballznos kde support nomad such as the zen vision w?04:06
c0nv1ctit doesnt have to mjunx04:06
mjunxright04:06
nosrednaekimzen vision w?haha yes...its work though04:06
Aiwuuwel... someone know how to take "photos" in XGL?04:06
firemonkeyballznot afraid of work04:07
firemonkeyballz:D04:07
mjunxAiwuu, recordmydesktop works well04:07
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: you can enable and disable the services if you want04:07
Aiwuuwhere i can download/get that:P?04:07
voidmageanyone know a way in knetworkmanager to get it to run a script after connecting to network X?04:07
Aiwuugoogle?Xd04:07
c0nv1ctecetahmaz: or make scripts to block and open the ports04:07
Aiwuuor apt?04:07
voidmageor any way to do that in general for a specific network?04:07
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nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: you need to comile the newest version of Amarok with the newest version of lib MTP04:08
rbrunhuberAiwuu: want to talk big now ? :-)04:08
Menanosrednaekim, Thanks :)04:08
mjunxAiwuu, via apt04:08
firemonkeyballznot too bad04:08
nosrednaekimMena: YM04:08
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mjunxin universe as usual04:08
mjunx!recordmydesktop04:08
firemonkeyballzso long I dont need to make changes04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recordmydesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
_Daisuke_Ido_now things are looking pretty friggin nice, if i do say so myself.04:08
nosrednaekimfiremonkeyballz: I have a tutorial somewhere...04:08
mjunxubotu, yes you do04:08
ecetahmazc0nv1ct thanx i`ll search how can i do that04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yes you do - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
mjunx!package feisty recordmydesktop04:09
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voidmage!info recordmydesktop04:09
nosrednaekim!botsnack04:09
ubotuPackage recordmydesktop does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:09
ecetahmazdo u know any helpfull link for find easyly04:09
mjunxdamn, he ain't intelligent he says04:09
ubotuYum!04:09
firemonkeyballzI think I should remove remote desktop sharing04:09
mjunxhe don't deserve a botsnack! :(04:09
firemonkeyballz....04:09
jake__nosrednaekim: sir i restart new session, but nothing happens04:09
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nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: shaddup;)04:10
_Daisuke_Ido_your help is appreciated, it looks awesome.  thank you04:10
nosrednaekimjake_ start a konsole...04:10
firemonkeyballzgrrrr nos its intergrated04:10
firemonkeyballzhell04:10
nosrednaekimand type this in "beryl-manager"04:10
nosrednaekim!language | firemonkeyballz04:11
ubotufiremonkeyballz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:11
firemonkeyballzdesktop sharing is intergrated04:11
firemonkeyballzhe double honke stix04:11
rbrunhuber!ubotu doku04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
mjunxis family-friendly considered TV-Y7 or TV-Y?04:11
Aiwuumjunx, via apt?, ok... recordmydesktop?04:11
rbrunhuber!ubotu docs04:11
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com04:11
mjunxAiwuu, yeah, that's what it's called, but it's in universe04:11
mjunxAiwuu, and if the bot's ignorance of the package is any sign, it might be in feisty only at the moment sadly04:11
Aiwuu><04:12
_Daisuke_Ido_i'm drooling04:12
mjunxoh yeah, it is, sorry04:12
Aiwuubut i can use it on Edgy?04:12
mjunxI know there's another one04:12
mjunxprobably04:12
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: awesome eh?04:12
_Daisuke_Ido_quite04:12
mjunxbyzanz records to GIF04:12
mjunxistanbul is another one04:12
_Daisuke_Ido_wonder how resource-intensive this is04:12
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: not as bad as you may think...04:12
_Daisuke_Ido_seems to be running about as well04:13
mjunxI can run it on a crappy integrated graphics card, so, yeah04:13
nosrednaekimruns on a 2 year old intel integrated chi[04:13
mjunxyes^ that's what I'm talking about :D04:13
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mjunxit's like the opposite of vista04:13
_Daisuke_Ido_i just tried to drag a window across the border between virtual desktops ^_^04:13
nosrednaekimHAHA!!04:13
nosrednaekimtry alt+tab04:13
_Daisuke_Ido_ooh, pretty04:14
Tm_TActually you can drag them.04:14
mjunxtry ctrl+alt+arrows, or ctrl+alt+click-n-drag-mouse04:14
nonuda!compiz04:14
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:14
nosrednaekimahh yes that too04:14
mjunx!beryl04:14
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:14
mjunxcompiz is too gnome-biased IMO04:14
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nosrednaekimberyl is the most amazing program...04:15
mjunxat least you can get aquamarine for beryl which makes it more kde-centric04:15
_Daisuke_Ido_pardon me while i cry04:15
_Daisuke_Ido_actually, i'm using emerald04:15
_Daisuke_Ido_the problem was xgl04:15
nosrednaekimaquamarine is great04:15
_Daisuke_Ido_aiglx is working great04:15
Aiwuuemerald sux in KDE ...04:15
nosrednaekimbut not real stable04:15
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mjunxI use whatever comes with xorg 7.1 and 7.204:15
_Daisuke_Ido_ah, i can't quite figure out how to access aquamarines themes...04:15
mjunxyeah, I've had it randomly crash a few times04:15
nosrednaekimthere aren't any... its your present KDE theme04:15
mjunx_Daisuke_Ido_, it uses your kde kwin theme04:15
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mjunxare there any good emerald themes that aren't a ripoff of vista or os x?04:16
firemonkeyballzanyone know where I can get tor and validia and privoxy for kde?04:16
_Daisuke_Ido_mjunx: yes.  there's an OSX ripoff.04:16
_Daisuke_Ido_wait, you said that04:16
_Daisuke_Ido_no.04:16
_Daisuke_Ido_:)04:16
mjunxhrmm...04:16
nosrednaekimmjunx: oh yeah!!04:16
mjunxwhat's with the vista fascination?04:16
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nosrednaekimit looks kool I guess:-D04:17
mjunxit's easier to make kde (or gnome) look like vista than it is to make vista look like vista04:17
mjunxconsidering all the apps on vista that weren't updated interface-wise04:17
firemonkeyballznm04:17
qexi have downloaded vlc and have unpackage it.. how does i install it?04:18
_Daisuke_Ido_mjunx: and the resources necessary (not to mention monetary output)04:18
mjunxindeed04:18
qexbecouse with sudo apt-get install vlc .. does not work :/04:18
_Daisuke_Ido_qex: why not just install it from the repository?04:18
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mjunxqex, is it a .deb file?04:18
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qexmjunx : no :(04:19
mjunxsource?04:19
qexyepp04:19
qexsource what?04:19
mjunxinside the directory, ./configure && make && sudo make install04:19
eilkeri have microphone, i wanna record my voice, which software do i need to use for it ?04:19
qexmy source list cant find it i think04:19
mjunx!vlc04:20
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:20
nosrednaekim!krec04:20
ubotukrec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 345 kB, installed size 1044 kB04:20
mjunxhmm04:20
mjunx!info vlc04:20
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB04:20
mjunxyou need universe, you got that?04:20
qexwhat did you worte?04:20
nosrednaekim!krec | eilker04:20
ubotueilker: please see above04:20
qexuniverse? no!04:20
mjunxyes!04:20
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qexwhere download?04:20
mjunx!universe | qex04:21
ubotuqex: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:21
eilkernosrednaekim: thanx04:21
nosrednaekimthank the bot... with a treat04:22
ecetahmazthanx04:22
nosrednaekim!botsnack04:22
ubotuYum!04:22
mjunx!botsnack >me04:22
mjunxhmm, that wasn't what I wanted...04:22
nosrednaekimmjunx...hey!! thats not fair04:22
mjunxall it did was say "yum" to me privately :(04:22
nosrednaekimI know....04:22
nosrednaekimno thank yous...04:22
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mjunx!gimme food >me04:23
mjunxfor what?04:23
nosrednaekim!throw up > mjunx04:23
thevmy GIMP has no print option.  It makes me sad.  Running Kubuntu Edgy - anyone know what's up?04:23
mjunx!lart > nosrednaekim04:23
mjunxhehe04:23
nosrednaekimhaha04:23
qexi have set multivserse now04:24
nosrednaekimbot's fun04:24
mjunxmaybe you need gimp-print, thev?04:24
qexuniverse and multiverse is enabled!04:24
mjunxnot sure if that's what you're looking for though04:24
andrew___Hi I have a question, is there anyone who can help?04:24
mjunxqex, apt-get update04:24
nosrednaekimandrew: ask away04:24
thevmjunx - I'll take a look04:24
qexyepp04:24
qexand now?04:24
mjunxapt-get install vlc04:24
qexok il try!04:24
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andrew___ok i'll explain as my best.....04:24
qexit works!04:24
qexthanks alot! ^^04:25
mjunxyay04:25
mjunxno prob04:25
rbrunhuber!throw up >me04:25
mjunxI can't wait for vlc 0.904:25
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qexyou know how to fix sound to? ^^04:25
mjunxit's using qt4 instead of wxcrap04:25
qexmy soundcard is in my motherboard04:25
jake_guys are xgl and beryl are different window manager?04:25
qexhow to fix sound?04:25
mjunxqex, what's wrong with it? does alsa give an error?04:25
nosrednaekimjake_ no, xgl is an xserver04:25
qexmy sound just dont work at all04:25
nosrednaekimdid you try what I told you to?04:25
nonudai have a pcmcia modem, how do install it drivers, coz scanModem can't detect it04:26
qexi hear ubuntu bips but no sound in music and videos04:26
mjunxqex, I have a similar issue on my other computer, so I don't have any advice :/04:26
qexhmm.. okey.. thx anyway! .)04:26
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qexyeah a question.. i have updated and installed vlc now04:26
qexwhere does i found vlc?04:26
qexnot in multimedia ? :/04:26
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nosrednaekimrun "vlc"04:26
andrew___ok well i am a complete newbie to linux and kubuntu, i am having an issue installing VLC player and WINE, i get an error in ADEPT that says " Break install" so i downloaded synaptic and i get the same issue.  do you know howe i can fix this?04:27
jake_so how is it connected with beryl?04:27
eilkernosrednaekim: cant i save as mp3 ?04:27
nosrednaekimno. only wav04:27
mjunxqex, that's where it should be04:27
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carutsuhello04:27
nosrednaekimbut you can convert to mp3 somehow...04:27
qexand where should it be mjunx?04:27
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mjunxqex, in multimedia04:27
andrew___anyone?04:27
qexyeah04:27
qexbut its not there04:27
ForgeAushey04:28
qexneed a reboot?04:28
mjunxas "VLC media player"04:28
mjunxnah, just log out and back in04:28
andrew___Yes "VLC Media player"04:28
qexnope :(04:28
Bi||aBongwhy when i install the ati driver and i go to console an type fglrxconfig this say bash: fglrxconfig: command not found?04:28
mjunxlog out of kde that is04:28
nosrednaekimandrew: which package is it thats breaking it?04:28
nosrednaekimtry each one individually04:28
andrew___ok just a sec i'll give that try....04:29
mjunxbecause it's not installed apparently, Bi||aBong04:29
carutsuthis is my problem: i need accents so someon pointed me to the modifier key under Xkb options... i assigned the right ctrl to it, but now not even the right control works! what can i do?04:29
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jake_i mean do i need xgl to run beryl properly?04:29
carutsuhow do i restore te left control04:29
nosrednaekimbillabong: its aticonfig04:29
nosrednaekimjake_ no you do not04:29
Bi||aBongok04:29
jake_nosrednaekim:04:29
thevlsusb sees my printers - why doesn't the printer setup dialogue?04:29
nosrednaekimyes?04:30
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carutsuhello, this is my problem: i need accents so someon pointed me to the modifier key under Xkb options... i assigned the right ctrl to it, but now not even the right control works! what can i do?04:30
qexnow it is there04:30
qexthanks!! ^^04:30
reldruhwhenever I create a new user, they can't use sudo, even if I add them to the sudo group. How can I fix this?04:30
jake_nosrednaekim: ive read the xgl website and txgl can also do a cube style desktop04:30
carutsuhello, this is my problem: i need accents so someone pointed me to the modifier key under Xkb options... i assigned the right ctrl to it, but now not even the left control works! what can i do?04:30
nosrednaekimjake_ xgl can't do it alone, you need either beryl or compiz on top of it04:31
qexwtf.. now my sound works to! how great ! :d04:31
qexhehe04:31
nosrednaekimgood!!04:31
firemonkeyballzok...04:31
eilkernosrednaekim: how will i listen th recorded file ?04:31
eilker*the04:32
firemonkeyballzanyone know how to install .deb files04:32
nosrednaekimuse any player04:32
jake_nosrednaekim: so what do you think, if install compiz instead of beryl?04:32
eilkerfiremonkeyballz: right click04:32
Bardologywhat's the best fs to use for your / partition?04:32
nosrednaekimno.. beryl will work..04:32
firemonkeyballzlol geez04:32
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mjunxBardology, ext304:32
eilkerfiremonkeyballz: and u gonna see kubuntu package manager04:32
Bardologymjunx: same with swap?04:32
mjunxswap uses swap04:33
nosrednaekimdo this pls jake start a konsole type this into it "beryl-manager"  hit enter and tell me what it says...04:33
jake_nosrednaekim: but it didnt in my machine, im using laptop,04:33
mjunxdifferent type of filesystem concept04:33
rbrunhuberreldruh: you have to add them to the admin group04:33
nosrednaekimjake_ what do ou mean it didn't?04:33
Bardologyoh, there it is  :)04:34
Bardologythanks04:34
mjunxnp04:34
jake_libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4204:34
jake_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:34
jake_  Major opcode:  14504:34
rbrunhuberjake_:  the baddevice is ok.04:34
jake_  Minor opcode:  304:34
nosrednaekimis that all?04:34
jake_  Resource id:  0x004:34
reldruhrbrunhuber: thanks. I just googled it and found that. Not much makes you feel like more of a newbie than the first google result being your exact answer _after_ you've already asked in an irc room. Thanks though :-)04:34
jake_Failed to open device04:34
jake_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:34
jake_  Major opcode:  14504:34
jake_  Minor opcode:  304:34
jake_  Resource id:  0x004:34
jake_Failed to open device04:34
carutsuhello, this is my problem: i need accents so someone pointed me to the modifier key under Xkb options... i assigned the right ctrl to it, but now not even the left control works! what can i do?04:34
jake_yup thats it04:35
nosrednaekimI don't know...I've never used a sis chip... looks like it doesn't like your chipset..04:35
jake_rbrunhuber: sorry but i dont know what it means04:35
voidmagejake_: That x error is normal04:35
rbrunhuberreldruh: you are welcome04:36
voidmagejake_: ubuntu includes support for wacom tablets by default and that error just means you don't have one04:36
nosrednaekimoh right.. forgot anout that..04:36
nosrednaekimdo it puts a little diamond i the panel right?04:36
nosrednaekim*so04:36
jake_everything is normal, then why cant i run this program properly.04:36
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voidmagewhich one?04:36
nosrednaekimjake..does it put a red diamon in the panel?04:36
jake_yes the red diamond04:36
nosrednaekimright click on it...04:37
archangel_why cant I play dvd's anymore?04:37
jake_i did04:37
archangel_they used to play fine04:37
firemonkeyballzok how does one install tor?04:37
voidmageThen select the window manager as beryl instead of kwin04:37
rbrunhubervoidmage: althogh it is quite annoying they are in the xorg.conf. although nearly nobody has the "lovely wacom things"04:37
jake_then..04:37
archangel_now, they just might as well be frizbee's04:37
firemonkeyballzseems im missing a package04:37
voidmagerbrunhuber: i don't have it either04:37
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nosrednaekimdoesn't it do something?04:37
eilkernosrednaekim>: it has only *rc file, no  file to play sth wrong ?04:37
archangel_they play up to the rating screen04:38
firemonkeyballzeh... break04:38
nosrednaekimeiker, you have to save it..04:38
firemonkeyballzbe back04:38
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nosrednaekimjake: doens't it do ANYTHING?04:38
nosrednaekimwhen you select beryl?04:38
eilkernosrednaekim>: i save as test.krec04:38
nosrednaekimhmm... just a second..04:38
jake_yes. it only refreshes the screen and evrything's back to normal,,, and when rightclick on beryl. the window manager is still in kwin04:38
Bi||aBongwhy when i write in aticonfig this: aticonfig --resolution=1,1600x1200,1280x1024,1024x768 the console say: Segmentation fault?04:38
eilkernosrednaekim>: than what to do ? is it zipped ?04:39
nosrednaekimeilker...I appologize.. wrong package, get krecord04:39
nosrednaekim!krecord04:39
ubotukrecord: KDE sound recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-3 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB04:39
eilkernosrednaekim: ok,tahnx04:39
archangel_anyone use the 3d desktop or xgl?04:39
voidmagejake_: Can you run beryl-manager from a terminal and get the output in there when you switch to beryl?04:39
eilkeri use it04:39
eilkeraiglx+ beryl04:39
archangel_they both rock04:39
nosrednaekimarchangel_: absolutely...04:40
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jake_yes04:40
jake_i mean no, how?04:40
voidmagefirst, quit beryl-manager04:40
voidmagethen open konsole and run beryl-manager from there04:41
jake_i did, then?04:41
voidmageIf nothing happens04:41
voidmageThen switch to beryl as your window manager04:41
voidmagepaste your output in konsole to a pastebin04:41
nosrednaekimI have to go all... goodnight (morning)... and God Bless04:41
nosrednaekim:-D04:41
nosrednaekimand good luck with your problems..04:41
Bi||aBongsomebody can help me?04:41
jake_how do i switch, in the konsole?04:42
voidmageYou switch like you would normally04:42
voidmageBut beryl-manager will print messages to konsole04:42
nosrednaekimno..switch on the beryl icon, and see what the terminal says04:42
nosrednaekimbye all...04:42
archangel_can anyone help me with selecting a better print manager or driver04:42
archangel_my print is really weird04:43
jake_ Beryl system compatiblity check                            *04:43
jake_**************************************************************04:43
jake_Detected xserver                                : AIGLX04:43
eilkernosrednaekim>: byes04:43
jake_Checking Display :0.0 ...04:43
jake_Checking for XComposite extension               : passed (v0.3)04:43
jake_Checking for XDamage extension                  : passed04:43
jake_Checking for RandR extension                    : passed04:43
jake_Checking for XSync extension                    : passed04:43
jake_Checking Screen 0 ...04:43
jake_libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4204:43
jake_Checking for GLX_SGIX_fbconfig                  : passed04:43
jake_Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap        : passed04:43
voidmagejake_: next time can you paste it to a pastebin?04:43
jake_Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed04:44
voidmagehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:44
jake_Support for non power of two textures missing04:44
jake_libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4204:44
jake_beryl: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing04:44
jake_beryl: Using non-tfp mode04:44
jake_beryl: Support for non power of two textures missing04:44
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jake_beryl: Failed to manage screen: 004:44
jake_beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.004:44
jake_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:44
jake_  Major opcode:  14504:44
jake_  Minor opcode:  304:44
jake_  Resource id:  0x004:44
archangel_dude your flooding04:44
nosrednaekimok stop please!!!04:44
slyfoxDoes anyone know how can I make it so that when I click in Firefox File - Send Link it will launch Kmail ?04:44
voidmagejake_: xgl or aiglx?04:44
jake_Failed to open device04:44
archangel_the basement04:45
jake_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:45
jake_  Major opcode:  14504:45
jake_  Minor opcode:  304:45
jake_  Resource id:  0x004:45
jake_Failed to open device04:45
nosrednaekimits AIGLX04:45
jake_sorry.04:45
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voidmagealso did you get my message about pasting it to a site next time?04:45
nosrednaekimseems to be this line : "Support for non power of two textures missing"04:45
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voidmagewhat card?04:45
jake_yes i get sorry..04:45
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jake_im using s3 savage04:46
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Mena :(04:46
Menai had a problem with encoding04:46
jake_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9582/04:46
Menaand i did that to enable some encodings04:47
Menai add this utf8 to the line of vfat on fstab04:47
Menabec i had two Xp and linux04:47
archangel_is using CUPS the best route for my printer even if it's not printing right?04:47
MenaSO nothing happened04:47
jake_voidmage: so what do you think?04:48
voidmageone second04:48
firemonkeyballzok ok... for all of you that havent installed tor04:48
firemonkeyballzhttp://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html04:48
Menai still got problems with encoding for the arabic chrarcter encoding any idea04:48
firemonkeyballzyou realy should04:48
ecetahmazhi, how can i reset root pswrd? sudo passwd -l root is that right?04:49
voidmagejake_: try04:49
voidmagejake_: right click on beryl, advanced options->rendering path->copy04:49
voidmagethen try launching beryl04:49
archangel_Mena: what do you think of Dianna Kazan?   (my spelling might be off)04:50
voidmagejake_: Again, check the konsole window for messages04:50
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Menaarchangel_, songer ?04:51
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Menaarchangel_, singer*04:52
archangel_Mena: yeah04:52
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jake_just a moment04:52
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Menaarchangel_, i heard a name like that befor as i guess but dnt know :)04:53
archangel_love her voice04:53
Menaarchangel_, ok04:53
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_Daisuke_Ido_not acceptable04:55
_Daisuke_Ido_beryl keeps locking up on me :\04:55
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Hasrat_USA_Daisuke_Ido_: ATI?04:55
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_Daisuke_Ido_nvidia04:55
_Daisuke_Ido_aiglx04:55
_Daisuke_Ido_still have mouse control, but can't do anything04:56
Hasrat_USAheh04:56
ecetahmazn04:56
Hasrat_USAright click on the beryl icon right now04:56
_Daisuke_Ido_it's not running.04:56
Hasrat_USAgo to rendering platform and select Force nVIDIA04:56
Hasrat_USAif it's not running, make it run04:56
_Daisuke_Ido_then it locks up.04:57
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_Daisuke_Ido_is this something editable through a config file04:57
InnosenseI just tried to run two monitors with my kunbuntu and it crashed hard when I restarted and now I can't startx04:57
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Hasrat_USAlol04:58
InnosenseCan anyone walk me through reseting my monitor settings in the comand line so I can boot up to the gui again?04:58
Dr_willis!fixres04:58
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:58
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Innosensesweet04:58
Innosensewhats that "  "?04:58
Innosensethe command line?04:58
Dr_willis:) amazing the # of wquestions allready anwsered on the wiki/forums and sites.04:59
Dr_willisjust makign the  command 'stand out'04:59
_Daisuke_Ido_problem seemed to start when i enabled the 3d thing04:59
Innosensesorry about asking questions here...I just really like to talk to people...04:59
jake_voidmage: nothing appears on konsole04:59
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geniifizzmahon You here? I ghosted05:00
_Daisuke_Ido_now beryl-manager won't launch :(05:00
voidmageyou switched rendering path to copy then started beyrl?05:00
voidmage_Daisuke_Ido_: make sure there aren't any other beryl-managers running05:00
voidmage'killall beryl-manager'05:00
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Dr_willisInnosense,  no problem. :)05:00
Dr_willisi hang here all the time just to chitchat and help05:00
geniifizzmahon You here? I had a disconnect and ghosted but am actually here now05:02
jake_voidmage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9585/05:03
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voidmagejake_: was that from when you started beryl-manager?05:03
InnosenseHey...05:03
voidmagebecause that's normal05:03
jake_yes it was05:03
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InnosenseI did that sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart thing05:04
_Daisuke_Ido_yeah, that wasn't happy05:04
jake_but why cant i select beryl as window manger05:04
voidmagewhy not?05:04
Innosenseand now all I have is nothing05:04
Dr_willisInnosense,  you did use 'gdm, or kdm' instead of ?dm :)05:04
_Daisuke_Ido_voidmage: as soon as beryl started, the system hard-locked05:04
Innosensenot even a command line, just...a place to type that doesn't execute any code.05:04
voidmageoh05:04
voidmagethat's not good then05:04
ForgeAusjake you probably still need to make sure your drivers are working /glx/aiglx, etc is functioning rather than just installed05:04
voidmagei have no idea, ask in #beryl05:04
_Daisuke_Ido_no05:04
Dr_willisInnosense,  huh?  that shuld of gotten you to the 'console' login screen05:05
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jake_when i rightclick on :select window manger> beryl" it didnt select05:05
Innosenseno05:05
voidmagejake_: ask in #beryl05:05
InnosenseI think I have kdm, but I didn't know what ?dm stood for...05:05
InnosenseI acutally don't know what any of that is...05:05
voidmage?dm meant either gdm or kdm05:05
voidmagewhether you had gnome or kde05:05
Dr_willisits a wildcard for one of xdm, kdm, gdm, (heck even wdm)05:05
Dr_willis:)05:05
voidmageor whatever it is05:05
InnosenseI have kde05:06
voidmagewell anyways05:06
c0nv1cttry #ubuntu-effects too05:06
voidmageyou did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:06
voidmageand nothing now?05:06
Dr_willisls -l  /etc/init.d/?dm05:06
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Dr_willis"_05:06
Dr_willis:)05:06
InnosenseI just restarted the machine all togeather, becuase I couldn't do anything05:06
Dr_willisrestart should 'stop and start' the kdm service, and thus stop and restarty X.05:06
Dr_willisInnosense,  try 'alt-ctrl-f1' next time05:07
jake_voidmage: thank you very much05:07
thevAnyone know when Feisty final is due to release?05:07
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voidmageInnosense: or if you need to restart X, you can also ctrl+alt+backspace05:07
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voidmagethev: late april05:07
Innosensein the command line?05:07
voidmagethev: right now shooting for april 1905:07
thevis printer support better in it?05:08
voidmageInnosense: ctrl+alt+backspace is anywhere in X05:08
voidmagethev: lots of stuff is nice about feisty05:08
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-backspace is a "KICK X in the head and force it to die" key sequence.05:08
Dr_willis:)05:08
thevI have a couple of HPs and they just don't seem to be working properly05:08
voidmagexorg 7.2 is in there, has better support for composite stuff (beryl)05:08
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Aiwuuits normal if my dvdrom dont read cds or dvds :S (the system stops ><)05:08
Innosenseokay05:08
voidmageknetworkmanager is nice for wireless stuff05:08
InnosenseI did that restart thing again05:08
Innosenseand all i get05:08
thevdammit... I'm downloading herd 5 :p05:08
Dr_willisif your X server is not confiured right.. it does no good to 'restart' X05:09
Innosenseis...its like a command line without a command line05:09
Innosenseyeah I think thats the case05:09
voidmageherd 5 is pretty stable right now, but of course i can't officially support it05:09
voidmage:P05:09
thevwell damn the torpedos05:09
thevthat's my motto05:09
voidmagei've been using it since herd 305:09
MenaDr_Willis, Did you know this program from here http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html05:09
thevherd 3 wouldn't install on my test box05:09
voidmagehmm05:09
thevbut herd 5 did05:09
Innosensewell I will be back05:09
Innosensemy friends are here to welcome me home05:09
voidmageif you use konqueror apparently it works with google/gmail now05:09
thevthat's at work tho05:09
Menaor any one else05:09
Innosensebut hopefully I'll be able to figure this out later05:10
thevdoesn't help me much here at home :/05:10
carutsui managed to erase my control key05:10
voidmagethev: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd4/Kubuntu05:10
voidmagereplace herd4 with any other herd #05:10
voidmageto see other changes05:10
carutsucan anybody send me a fresh install of /etc/xkb05:11
carutsucan anybody send me a fresh install of /etc/xkb1105:11
Dr_willisMena,  been using that for proberly over a year or more.05:11
Dr_willis!ext205:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
Dr_willis!ext305:11
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org05:11
thevno comprehensive list?05:11
voidmagethev: not really05:11
Dr_willisls -l  /etc/xkb1105:11
Dr_willisls: /etc/xkb11: No such file or directory05:11
MenaDr_Willis, okay but i get a problem with the encoding05:12
Dr_willisMena,  encoding of what?05:12
MenaDr_Willis, of arabic characters05:12
thevnow, fo course... the eternal question... i386 or 64bit version... : /05:12
voidmagethev: i'd still stick with i38605:12
voidmagealso, beta comes out in about 1.5 weeks05:12
MenaDr_Willis, there is a solution for vfat by adding the utf8 to vfat line on fstab05:12
thevyeah I don't think iscan plays nice in 64bit05:12
MenaDr_Willis, but with ext3 i dont know05:13
voidmageso herd 5 should be plenty stable now, but of course still not for production machines, etc, don't hurt me please05:13
voidmage:P05:13
Dr_willisno idea on arabic stuff..    perhaps that programs web site has some faq/forums for info.05:13
thevwell this is a production machine... but my printers don't work, so I can't produce... :p05:13
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Dr_willisthats when network printers are handy. :)05:13
orange_what should i research to be able to network this kubuntu laptop to my 2 other pc's with winxp05:14
orange_is it samba?05:14
thevDr Willis - I would still need driver installed, wouldn't I?05:14
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thevI have a windoze lappy I could use as a network printer server05:14
thevseems kinda dumb tho05:14
Dr_willisthev,  if you are lucky the printer can handle Postscript.05:15
thevthe whole idea is to not use windows05:15
Dr_willisI got a 'network' gizmo for my old old old laser printer05:15
Dr_williswhat kind of printer ya got?05:15
thevAccording to CUPS  test page its postscript level 305:15
thevI have a HP laserjet 1000 and a Photosmart D716005:15
Dr_willisI got a Laserjet6L :) like 10+ yrs old. heh05:16
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thevhey whatever works05:16
thevthe old lasers were tanks05:16
carutsusorry i was mistaken this is what i need /etc/X11/xkb/05:17
carutsuplease! i'm control-less xD05:18
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carutsui need accents so someone pointed me to the modifier key under Xkb options on Kcontrol... i assigned the right ctrl to it, but now not even the left control works! it seems that all got changed05:19
carutsui tried to change it back05:19
Dr_williscarutsu,  you need the whole dir?05:19
carutsui dont know what was changed05:19
Dr_williscarutsu,  you changed the settings as a USER?05:20
carutsuno05:22
carutsuDR_willis no in Kcontrol05:22
firemonkeyballzgee myspace is infected05:22
Dr_williscarutsu,  err... you ran Kcontrol as a user logged into X?05:22
MenaDr_Willis, i found out that they didnt enable th option for utf8 yet05:22
Dr_williscarutsu,  or did you 'sudo Kcontrol' ?05:22
carutsuDr_willis xD yes05:22
carutsunow05:23
Dr_willisyes to what part...05:23
Dr_willis:)05:23
carutsuDr_willis no as user05:23
MenaDr_Willis, but if i add it to ext3 lines it will not make any thing05:23
firemonkeyballzhttp://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/category/security/05:23
intelikeyhmmm uninstalling   221MB   of language-pack-'s   why were they installed is the question ?05:23
firemonkeyballzlook05:23
MenaDr_Willis, or no idea :D05:23
Dr_williscarutsu,   if its a 'user' setting - i doubt if it affected anything in the /etc/ANYTHING dir.. try making a new user and see if it works for them properly05:23
carutsugot it05:23
intelikeyor why doesn't localepurge remove language-pack-'s ?05:24
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Dr_williscarutsu,  linux likes to keep users from trashing the system. :)05:24
carutsuDr_willis the point is i've managed to do it 3 times already..05:25
carutsuDr_willis i admited, 1 was because i played with permisions05:25
Dr_willis:)05:27
Dr_willistrashing the users account is not the same as trashing the syste,05:27
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intelikeypsuydo05:28
intelikeywhen you trash root jr.  you have for the windows user trashed the system05:28
intelikeythat rebooting to a root console thing   that's like rewriting the whole os  to some.05:29
Dr_willisgee.. even windows has a pathic rescue mode. :)05:30
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firemonkeyballzdr_willis wont matter05:30
firemonkeyballzthings are changing05:31
firemonkeyballzvista will install updates reguardless05:31
Dr_willisI got a windows XP live cd. :) from.. errr.. somewere.05:31
Dr_willis:)05:31
Dr_willisvista can kiss my... err... never mind.05:31
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Daisuke_Idoquite a talkative bunch in the beryl channel05:32
firemonkeyballzanyone tried shorwall?05:33
intelikeyi still want to know if i can put    killall5   in an init script without it killing the script it's in.05:34
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ecetahmazhi, my all port is open, how i can mnage???05:35
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intelikeywhere is the configuration for the logout button hidden ?05:36
jake_anybody here using compiz?05:36
firemonkeyballzkde button05:37
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firemonkeyballzjust above it05:37
firemonkeyballzecetahmaz05:37
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firemonkeyballzshould be in the system settings05:38
ecetahmazim here05:39
Hasrat_USAwhat a surprise!05:39
firemonkeyballzlogin manager?05:39
carutsuDr_willis it woeked rebooting05:39
carutsuxD05:39
carutsuit was just fixed05:40
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Dr_williscarutsu,  great.. err.. what was fixed..  i forgot..;)05:40
Dr_williswatching tv. heh heh05:40
carutsuDr_willis xDDDDDD my control key05:41
firemonkeyballzheh should set remote shutdown for nooobody05:41
firemonkeyballzbuh not sure what would happen05:41
Dr_willischmod +s /bin/shutdown05:41
Dr_willis:)05:41
ecetahmazu mean is  user manag05:41
ecetahmazer05:42
ecetahmaznot init05:42
Dr_willisthen everyone can shutdown.05:42
carutsuis there a way to use zombie keys without remaping?05:42
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firemonkeyballzset nobody on remote shudown?05:42
ecetahmazmer05:45
Forgehmm05:46
Forgegrrr05:46
Forgethis is stupid05:46
Dr_willismoo05:46
firemonkeyballzcluck05:46
ecetahmazaranizd portlari nasil kontrol eebilecegimi soyleyebilecek biri vrmi? linux da tecrubeli biri vrmi05:46
Dr_willisChortle05:46
firemonkeyballzmow05:47
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ForgeARGH!05:48
ForgeI can't change nicks :(05:48
Dr_willisegads!05:48
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bogusumk05:49
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boguswow05:49
bogusstole someone elses name05:49
boguslol05:49
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firemonkeyballzok better05:50
firemonkeyballzdont wanna piss them off05:50
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ben325eSo I tried ubuntu (and linux for that matter) for the first time four days ago... I tried Kubuntu today.... I'm digging KDE so much more!05:50
Dr_willisi tend to have both gnome and kde installed.05:51
Hasrat_USAJust found this! credits go to a great Beryl enthusiast and analyst in Ubuntu-effects: Press ALT and rotate the mouse's scroll wheel to turn on/off + increase/decrease transparency of a particular window.05:51
voidmageHasrat_USA: great find05:51
Dr_willisHasrat_USA,  now if only transparent windoiws actually helped make you more productive.05:51
Dr_willisI belive that "Metiss" desktop had a similer combo  that 'zoomed' a window larger.05:51
Hasrat_USAbut i still don't understand how the f he guessed that my mouse had a scroll wheel05:51
compilerwriterben325e I like kde better than gnome as well.  Although, I am seeing a sort of beatiful simplicity in fluxbox.05:52
compilerwriters/beatiful/beautiful05:52
ben325edunno what fluxbox is (yet), and I will say that gnome was way easy to get into (Sorry Mr. Torvalds... it just is...)05:52
Hasrat_USAwell dr, when three firefox browser windows are overlapping each other, i would like to make at least two of them transparent to help me stay on track and not get confused.05:53
firemonkeyballzdann no transparency05:53
Dr_willisfluxbox a minimal window manager, part of the 'blackbox' faimly.05:53
LL_Hakaisou!div305:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about div3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
firemonkeyballzlooking for codecs?05:53
Hasrat_USAfiremonkeyballz: you have to be running either compiz or beryl to do that05:53
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ben325eIs there anything I just need to know about KDE/Kubuntu, or "must have" programs?  Or do ya think I'm prettty much good to go?05:54
LL_Hakaisou!divx05:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:54
Dr_willisben325e,  depends on what you are doing.05:54
compilerwriterben325e: Fluxbox is just another gui like kde.  It is not nearly as resource intensive as kde.  Handy when you are logging in for an xterm session via the net.05:54
Dr_willisben325e,  i find that learning about 'mc' is good.. but its neither a kde or gnome app. :)05:55
firemonkeyballzanyone try shorewall05:55
firemonkeyballz?05:55
Hasrat_USAfiremonkeyballz: also, did you know that if i press the 'super' (and in winblows' language, the windows key) key and move the mouse wheel up, the whole screen will magnify dramatically and vice versa.05:55
intelikeyben325e ahh   yes.05:55
Hasrat_USAit's amazing that beryl doesn't require expensive hardware05:55
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz it's just a configurator for iptables    no?     but no i haven't used that one.     don't even use iptables    not a server.05:56
Dr_willistry out the  Mandriva-2007.0-One-Metisse.i586.iso   live cd.. for an alternatve to Beryl. Its gettting overlooked sadly. :(05:56
SagaciousKJBI'm having a problem with input actions.  They just plain won't work.  PrintSceen won't even bring up KSnapShot anymore, and I'm getting no errors anywhere.05:56
SagaciousKJBIs there something obvious I've over looked?  The "disabled" check box is unchecked, of course05:56
Dr_willisMetisse is nifty in ways..05:56
ben325eI read that KDE is somewhat harder to install things like themes, etc, and that it is supposed to run slower than gnome (ok well not supposed to, but generally does...), but I've found that KDE seems 3x as responsive as Gnome!05:57
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firemonkeyballzwell torrents are a server client05:57
intelikeypoint ?05:57
MorboHuh?05:57
Hasrat_USAOH my lord! after applying some hardcore transparency to almost all my open windows, Beryl's performance increased dramatically05:57
compilerwriterben325e I have found kde to be more responsive.05:57
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MorboI haven't noticed any difference05:57
ben325elooking up mc....05:57
Hasrat_USAyeah KDE rocks I'm using Beryl on it05:57
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AxlRoseok...I recently reinstalled kubuntu and I CANNOT get DRI to work05:58
ben325eI have beryl and compiz installed on gnome, so I guess for kde too, but it didn't work well in gnome for me... stupid ati radeon xpress 200g integrated video...05:58
carutsuis there a way to use dead keys without remaping?05:59
AxlRosenot with ATI, radeon, or fglrx05:59
firemonkeyballzben05:59
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firemonkeyballzI have ati xpress05:59
Dr_willisben325e,  im supprised its working at all for you05:59
firemonkeyballzi have noooo problems05:59
Dr_willisi got a x200m in my laptop - :) its way low end. :(05:59
ben325eI bet you have the 200 M....05:59
Dr_willisbut heck it was a cheap laptop05:59
intelikey!worksforme05:59
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:59
Hasrat_USAi have a very bad feeling about GNOME. I think it's going to be extinct in a couple of years (who knows?) but i will keep it in my computer just because it's an ancient product and even if it dies i will keep it in my collection just to show off06:00
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firemonkeyballzno have an acer aspire 510006:00
ben325eI have 200 G... .Hp pavillion AMD 64 3200+, 1.5gig ram...06:00
firemonkeyballzits the 110006:00
firemonkeyballzgraphics card06:00
intelikeyHasrat_USA have a look in  #ubuntu   tell me gnome is dying....06:00
intelikeykde may be dying....06:01
NDPowerBookYeah Ubuntu may have been the best thing to ever happen to GNOME06:01
NDPowerBookNeither is dying.06:01
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Jucato!offtopic06:01
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:01
ben325eaahhh.... yeah.... it seems that most of the non integrated cards from ati are good once you get fglrx in, but the radeon xpress 200 sux... .and even then the 200 M works 20x better than 200g06:01
intelikeyis there a topic ?06:01
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ben325ebut if anyone wants to UPS me a new card, I'd be most appreciative!  :)06:02
SagaciousKJBOkay06:02
SagaciousKJBSo, I can't find anything relatable to my problem on Kubuntu forums, Ubuntu forums, documentation, or google.06:02
orange_when i install programs - where are they stored? I want to find the readme's and stuff06:02
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ben325esweet.... 2 or 4 meg?06:03
firemonkeyballzorange depends if you downloaded them06:03
ben325e:)06:03
firemonkeyballzsometimes they are seporate06:03
compilerwriterSagaciousKJB then ask away06:03
SagaciousKJBWell, I already did06:03
carutsu!deadkeys06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deadkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
SagaciousKJBI didn't know if anyone noticed.06:04
intelikeyben325e not svga   vga.   like supports 256 color at 800x600  :)06:04
firemonkeyballzbuh in the konsole you can use info06:04
Dr_willisorange_,  depends on the program. use the package managers and see what files are in the package.06:04
SagaciousKJBMy input keys are non functioning.  PrintScreen will not even bring up KSnapShot in KDE 3.506:04
Jucatoorange_: most often than not, they will be in /usr/share/doc/appname06:04
SagaciousKJBI can't find anything about it anywhere obvious, and there's no errors in any log files.  It's very confusing06:04
intelikeyno actually i think it does support either 15 or 16 bit colour.   but it came in a box with win3.1 on it.06:05
carutsuanyone!?06:05
carutsu!accents06:05
SagaciousKJBAnd odd, aswell, because I'm using yakuake, and F12 will still bring it open.06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about accents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
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compilerwriterSagaciousKJB I am confounded also.06:05
Hasrat_USAintellikey well the reasons behind why there are LOADS of people living their lives happily ever after in #ubuntu are: 1. people, specially newbies install ubuntu for the first time and the next thing they are directed to is #ubuntu, not #kubuntu. 2. people usually get directed to #ubuntu automatically because kubuntu has never gotten as much popularity as ubuntu has got, although there is not much difference between the two. 3.06:05
Hasrat_USAAfter installing ubuntu, as i have observeed, it takes many newbies more than 4 weeks to install kde-desktop, after they are done with numerous problems with their wi-fi, graphics card, blah blah blah etc etc06:05
SagaciousKJBVarious key shortcuts for other aps work, just not KDE. :/06:05
Dr_willisSagaciousKJB,  as a test.. make a new user.. see if theproblem affects them06:05
ben325eI guess we know who is a packrat.... keeping video cards from '92....06:05
makuseruhow can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)06:05
SagaciousKJBAll right, I'll try that.06:05
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carutsunah moustly of who i know just instaled kubuntu06:06
unholyskornwhere is there a list of supported video cards for beryl?06:06
intelikeyHasrat_USA same can be said for most of those things about kubuntu also.06:06
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ben325eanyone know why the fonts for Open Office in gnome suck, but when I use kde session they look great?06:06
intelikeyi said MOST06:07
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carutsuDr_willis please can you help me i NEED dead keys06:07
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Dr_williscarutsu,  i dont even have a clue what you mean by 'dead' keys.06:07
Dr_willisINotice that my Old amiga has a 'blank' key. :) i think its used on the german keyboard/amigas. heh06:08
ben325eyou could remap your keyboard so that some don't work.....:)06:08
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makuseruhow can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)?06:08
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AxlRosecan anyone help me figure out why DRI isn't working with fglrx06:09
carutsuDr_willis dead keys n~ those like HTML &aacute06:09
thevis shutdown time in minutes or seconds?06:09
carutsuDr_willis accents, so on06:09
Dr_williscarutsu,  never used them.. :)06:09
ben325ebtw... when I try to configure my clock I don't have an option to get 12 hr format as opposed to 24.... I lived in germany for a couple of years, so I'm kinda used to it and it's not that big a deal, but I just can't believe that I'm such an idiot that I cant figure out something so basic...06:10
thevif I do shutdown -P 15 - 15 minutes to shutdown?06:10
Dr_willisyou tryont to make things liek an e with a ^  over it?06:10
carutsuDr_willis i know... but i speak spanish, i use them06:10
carutsuDr_willis i'll have to keep looking06:10
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Dr_willisI thought kde had some setting for that.. but ive never used them. so no idea.06:10
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Dr_willisgiven the work kde has in language support.. i imagine you just need tolearn how to use the feature06:10
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intelikeythev -P is seconds isn't it ?06:11
thevwell it's been more than 15 seconds, so I think it must be minutes... ;)06:11
ben325exorg-config and edit keyboard layout?06:11
thevI did the command and it's still up06:11
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thevI assume it'll shut down shortly06:12
intelikey       -P     Halt action is to turn off the power.06:12
intelikey-t seconds.06:12
thevintelikey - so do I need to use -t for defining a time value?06:13
Dr_willisyep06:13
thevor without -t does it assume minutes?06:13
carutsuben325e it screwed list time06:13
Dr_willisi think it dont assume much. :)06:13
Dr_willisi thought -t was needed or it just exited06:13
ben325e?06:13
ben325eit screwed up last time?06:13
carutsuben325e the edit of keyboard layout06:13
ben325egotcha06:13
Dr_willisand theres' -t now   'i think also06:13
Orange_1README.build.gz  -- how do i read this file?06:14
thevwell I want it to do it when my download is done :)06:14
carutsuwell i tried again06:15
carutsunow it worked06:15
carutsudont ask me what went wrong06:15
carutsuxD06:15
Dr_williszmore whatever.gz06:15
Dr_willisor gunzip it first...06:15
intelikeythev  no you define a time with no options   but that's a time  not  a time-laps06:15
Dr_willisor try zless whatever.gz06:15
Dr_willis.gz = guzipped file.06:15
intelikeythev if you want a time-laps until shutdown use  -t06:15
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ben325econgrats carutsu!06:16
intelikeythev best way to have one task start when another ends is to  string them.      wget <blah> ;shutdown06:16
Orange_1Dr_willis: thanks06:17
thevooo... ok, so how do I know what task to tell it?06:17
thevI have a firefox download window up06:17
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ForgeAusdid I ever tell you how much I love krusader!06:18
ForgeAusits awesome!06:18
intelikeythev you can also test the exit status with the  &&  and  ||   string connectors.     this && that       that runs only if this was successful   || is the opisite.   man bash   for all the info you want on the supject.06:18
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ForgeAusa bit like midnight commander for KDE...06:18
SagaciousKJBWell, the keys worked on the new accounht, although not perfectly.  They opened whatever app they corresponded with on the second xserver I have running06:19
SagaciousKJBThey still don't work at al on this account.06:19
ForgeAusyou can even cd to an ftp url!06:19
ForgeAusquickly at that06:20
makuseruhow can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)?06:20
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intelikeythev hard to add a string to an already running process  but one could test the process tabel.         while pidof 'firefoxwhatever' ;do sleep 3 ;done && shutdown06:20
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SagaciousKJBIt seems like it's got something to do with the dual xservers running.   I'm not sure what I would look for in the xorg.conf for that, though06:21
intelikeyaside from the name 'firefoxwhatever'  that string would work asis06:21
SagaciousKJBDr_willis: Are you still there?06:23
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BenPA!emac2106:26
intelikeygoing to test killall5 in an init script.06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emac21 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
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Jucato!info emacs21 | BenPA06:27
ubotubenpa: emacs21: The GNU Emacs editor. In component main, is optional. Version 21.4a-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1969 kB, installed size 5904 kB06:27
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Bi||aBongwhy the ati control don't run?06:28
Dr_willisSagaciousKJB,  huh?06:28
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SagaciousKJBI'm not even sure who was helping me before now.06:28
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Dr_willisSagaciousKJB,  i cant say that ive messed with 2 x servers going at the same time -- except the KDE-> SwitchUser-> new session stuff06:29
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SagaciousKJBWell, no, not graphic terminals06:29
SagaciousKJBI'm using an Nvidia card with s-video out06:29
SagaciousKJBOn the s-vdieo display is a separate xserver.06:29
SagaciousKJBI never could get TwinView to work for some reason.06:30
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jusama15can someone help me install a wirless card???06:30
SagaciousKJBBut, when I tested with the new user account, the input actions worked, they just opened on the wrong screen.06:30
Bi||aBongthe ati control don't run, i need help06:30
SagaciousKJBHowever, on this account, they don't run at all.06:30
jusama15CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper06:30
geniijusama15: There is a very good tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper06:33
nonuda!modem06:33
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto06:33
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jusama14CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper06:33
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jusama14how do i open file browser as root06:34
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Jucatojusama14: Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror06:36
Dr_willisbe carefull with        kdesu konqueror  :)06:37
jusama14my bad, running ubuntu, i was wondering if anyone here knew how to do it06:38
jusama14was asking around in ubuntu06:38
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Jucatojusama14: gksudo nautilus06:40
Jucatojusama14: but people in #ubuntu will know better06:40
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jusama14no one is able to solve it, that's why i came here06:41
Aiwuuwell maybe someone here can help me... when im in XGL Session and i use glxinfo i get "direct rendering NO" this is normal?06:42
Aiwuuand when im in normal sessions i have a "yes" :S06:42
firemonkeyballzsolve what?06:42
firemonkeyballzaiwuu sounds like its backwardsly set up06:43
firemonkeyballzbye all06:44
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firemonkeyballzi tired06:44
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Aiwuu?06:47
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aliveuserhi, is there a way to modify the character print after a key pressed??06:49
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intelikeynope you can't have   killall5   in an init script   after the gui starts....    krap.06:50
Skuller!webcam06:50
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:50
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aliveuserintelikey, did u answer me?? or it is to another person??06:51
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intelikeyaliveuser did you ask me something ?06:52
allen84usany1 know how to use poptop06:52
allen84uspptp server06:52
allen84usi need some guide06:52
intelikeyhmmm !i06:52
intelikeythat's not i06:52
allen84uswat?06:52
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intelikeyi answered you.   not i06:53
allen84usnot wat?06:53
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AxlRosehow do u get amarok to play mp3s06:54
intelikeyyeah that's right,  just keep hitin' it you'll keep feelin' fine.06:54
allen84usFor playing MP3s you need the libxine-extracodecs package (from the Universe repository).06:54
intelikeyAxlRose you install codecs ?   or an engine like xine  with the extra codecs06:54
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intelikey!mp3 | AxlRose06:55
ubotuAxlRose: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:55
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Skullerhey guys...can anyone help me with getting my 'Creative Webcam Vista Pro' webcam to work kubun?06:55
intelikey!webcam06:57
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:57
me2win!aiglx06:57
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.06:57
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allen84ushow to upgrade KE .3.5.606:58
allen84usi'm using 3.5.206:58
Skullerintelikey: i followed mos of the things there....i cant egt it to work06:58
Skullerget*06:58
Jucatoaliveuser: you can only upgrade up to KDE 3.5.5 on Dapper06:59
allen84uscan show me how?06:59
Menaintelikey, do you know a program enable windows to read ext3 under it and with utf8 support but not for fs-driver.org plz06:59
allen84ushow to upgrade?06:59
Menafrom*06:59
Jucatoaliveuser: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php07:00
Menajucato, do you know ??07:00
aliveusermy question was this one, hi, is there a way to modify the character print after a key pressed??07:00
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JucatoMena: sorry no..07:00
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Mena:( ok07:00
Jucato??07:00
Jucatohm... that was strange...07:01
intelikeyMena e2fsexplorer.exe  iirc.07:01
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Menaok07:01
intelikeymena search the web for ext2 + explorer07:02
intelikeybtw    ext3 = ext2 + journal07:03
Jucatohm...07:03
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intelikeyJucato you doing all the op'ting or is that a script or what ?07:04
Jucatothe first 2 were...07:04
Menaok07:04
Jucatobah nvm07:04
nixternalhahahaha07:04
nixternalJucato: you and ChanServ have a thing I see ;p07:05
Skuller!webcam >skuller07:05
Jucatoheh07:05
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intelikeyyeah they been sleeping around for a long time now.07:05
nixternalhahahahahaha07:05
Jucatosshhh07:06
intelikeyooops  ;/07:06
Skullerlol whas happ here?07:06
ForgeAusum I need some help with PATH and MANPATH07:07
ForgeAushow do I Append a new path to them?07:07
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intelikeychanserv flirted with me,  i told er she wasn't my type...07:07
ForgeAuscurrently manpath is /usr/local/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man I need to add :/usr/pkg/man07:08
intelikeyForgeAus export PATH="$PATH:/new/path"07:08
ForgeAusthanx07:08
Rauksup all07:08
intelikeysame process for man07:08
MenaCould the file ssystem make Games wouldnt work07:08
Menasystem*07:08
Menaon Xp07:08
Menaext307:08
Mena:)07:08
Dr_willisIve ran XP programs from ext3 drives using that ifs driver thang07:09
Dr_willis!ext307:09
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org07:09
intelikeymena you have a game on an ext# fs and you are accessing it from windows trying to play it....     ?07:09
Menayes07:09
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Dr_willisIve played several games that way.. and my mame roms.. and so forth. :)07:10
Menaok07:10
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Dr_willisonly issue ive had is that the 'links' to files can mess things up07:10
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Dr_willisI got a spare ext3 partition i use as a 'data swapping area' :) that way i dont have to worry about linux accessing the ntfs drives07:11
Dr_williskeep my mp3 and other stuff there.07:11
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Aiwuuso nobody knows why i have direct rendering "no" in XGL session and Yes in normal ?07:11
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Dr_willisAiwuu,  i bet the forums/wiki may..07:13
Dr_willisintelikey,  nope.. slim. hair, i perfer Mr.Do.07:13
intelikeylol07:13
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Aiwuu:S07:13
intelikeyok.07:13
Dr_willisMr.DO is one of the more enterainign arcade games out...07:13
Dr_willisa bit more to it then most of the old classics.07:14
Dr_willisthe NeoGeo Port is great also.07:14
compilerwriterAnyone know how to make certain I did this denyhosts thing correctly. I got a few error messages and I would like to be certain I actually have things up and running.07:14
Menaintelikey, if this tool work Explore2fs i dont know what to say then but thanksvery much :)07:15
Dr_willisExplore2fs isent quite as trasparent as that fs-driver.org thang.07:15
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Menabut fs-driver doesnt support utf807:16
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Menanot yet07:16
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Dr_willisheh.. you sure explore2fs does? :)07:16
intelikeyMena yes there is one with the e2 at the first and one with the e2 at the end of the name i prefered the prepended e2 over the appended e2 but they both work.07:16
Dr_willisyou wont be able to play games from the drive with explore2fs I think.07:16
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Dr_willisnight all..07:16
MenaGT07:17
intelikeyand no i'm not sure that either can play games...  i never tried that.07:17
jusama14whats better kubuntu or ubuntu?07:17
Menai get error07:18
jusama14support wise07:18
Menanow with two games i tried07:18
jusama14many of the people on kubuntu seem to be assholes07:18
deweyjusama14, thet are the same07:18
deweythey07:18
Morbojusama14: :(07:18
deweyjust diff desktop wm07:18
intelikeyjusama14  thanks...07:18
Morbodewey: Different DE, you mean07:18
compilerwriterjucato are you able to help me out with denyhosts?07:18
Mena :'(07:18
jusama14support wise, not the actual linux07:18
intelikeyactually both tho   diff wm and de07:19
intelikeyjusama14 use ubuntu.  we don't really want you in here anyway...  :)07:20
MorboWell, different DE generally imples different WM07:20
jusama14haha07:20
intelikeyis that answer enough for you ?07:20
jusama14fag..07:20
Morbo:/07:20
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Mena : ' (07:20
intelikeysome people...07:20
compilerwriterintelikey: I need a little help verifying that I got denyhosts up and working correctly.07:21
intelikeycompilerwriter  iptables -L               ?07:21
intelikeycompilerwriter i know extreemely little about networking.07:21
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compilerwriterintelikey Ok.07:22
compilerwriterWho can help with denyhosts?07:22
c0nv1ctthat a firewall script or something?07:22
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compilerwriterc0nv1ct it is used to help shore up security in sshd.07:23
c0nv1ctahh i see, reading up on it now07:23
intelikeycompilerwriter if no one in here can answer you,  sometimes you catch the guys in  ##linux  willing to tackle such.07:23
compilerwriterStops dictionary attacks and such07:24
c0nv1cttrue, if its not specifcally *ubuntu related, try the general linux channels07:24
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intelikeyi find that i do get more "networking" support from there.07:24
hagabakai wish there was a game on the install disk07:24
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compilerwriterwill you be able to help c0nv1ct after some reading or shall I just head over to ##linux07:25
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: well, maybe, but i'd check the other chans anyway :P07:25
me2win!paste07:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:25
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compilerwriterok.  Query me if you think you have it.07:25
c0nv1cti'm reading up on it anyway, cuz i'd like to lock down my ssh as well07:26
c0nv1cti was just gonna limit it to the only IP i'd log into it with though07:26
compilerwriterHere is a link to an article I found and tried to follow.  I am just uncertain if I got it all correctly. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254149&highlight=denyhosts07:26
intelikeyc0nv1ct ssh itself can do that.   the configs are in /etc/ssh/07:27
c0nv1ctah cool, thanks07:27
c0nv1ctintelikey: i was just gonna do it with iptables07:27
me2winanybody knowsome about beryl? when i type in beryl-manager i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9592/07:27
c0nv1ctbut i'm lazy and havent bothered to do it yet07:27
compilerwriterMy issue is that I occaisionally need to ssh from an IP that becomes known to me only after I connect with it.  Can just limit to ones that I know for certain.07:28
intelikeyi'm lazy that's why i just configure ssh and don't worry about a firewall....  but quicktables is a script that makes setting up iptables simple enough that i can do it.07:28
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c0nv1ctyeah, i got a firewall script i've had for a long time, to make things easy07:29
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c0nv1ctusing stateful filtering makes things easier on the outbound side.. doesnt get in the way07:31
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fueldoes ipod work properly with kubuntu ?07:33
fueli connected my ipod and it is showing the used space wrongly07:33
fuelany ideas /07:33
fuel?07:33
intelikeyfuel i don't have one.  but i have some say it worked ootb and some say not at all.  so maybe the wiki  ?07:34
intelikey!ipod07:34
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod07:34
intelikey!rockbox07:35
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!07:35
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fuelwell i dont even want to use it as a media player right now. i just want to use it as an external hard disc07:35
Skuller!sonicstage07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sonicstage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
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fuelbut it mounts in read only mode and even after editing out fstab i am getting the same problem07:35
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intelikeyfuel hmmm what fs is it ?07:36
Skulleri am having problems with my flash drive...it is read only when mounted and i cant change the permissions07:36
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fuelipod is fat07:36
compilerwriterc0nv1ct I am getting no joy on ##linux what do you think.07:37
intelikeyis it mounting  ro   or just umask set to keep you from accessing ?07:37
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: have u looked into fail2ban as an alternative?07:37
fuelit mounts in ro mode only....07:37
Linux_Galorecolby_:   sudo konqueror  then goto the /media  folder  rgith click on the usb drive icons and edit the permissios07:37
c0nv1ctapparently its available in the repos, and might be easier to setup for ya07:37
fuelnow i tweaked and it mounts in rw07:37
Linux_Galorepermissions*07:37
fuelhowever the used size shown is wrong for some reason07:37
SkullerLinux_Galore: thanx a bunch07:37
compilerwriterc0nv1ct: no never heard of it.  Was only told about denyhosts recently.07:38
c0nv1ctcompilerwriter: i saw it referenced in the thread you pasted07:38
me2wincan anyone help with a beryl problem (ubuntu-effects is dead)?07:38
compilerwriterI must have missed that part of the thread.07:38
c0nv1ctit was in the 3rd reply :)07:39
c0nv1ctit looks easier to configure07:39
c0nv1ctbasically just blocks IPs in iptables after 5 failed attempts07:39
Number2hello i need help07:39
Number2make[2] : *** [/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o]  Error 107:40
Number2make[1] : *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only]  Error 207:40
Number2make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic'07:40
Number2make: *** [vmmon.ko]  Error 207:40
c0nv1ct!pastebin07:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:40
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Menaintelikey, if you are free plz see this http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm07:40
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intelikeyfuel i didn't see anything on that wiki about just mounting an ipod...07:40
Number2omg you guys07:40
c0nv1ctNumber2: looks like your vmware install is borked07:40
Number2i do not know what to do07:40
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SkullerLinux_Galore: i tried the sudo konqueror...it still says i cant change the permission07:40
c0nv1ctNumber2: try reinstalling vmware?07:41
fuelyeah... god knows .... the mounting process is a farce07:41
intelikeyfuel gtkpod is mentioned a lot...07:41
Number2im trying to install for the first time07:41
c0nv1ctNumber2: and disable that module in the mean time07:41
fuelthey enable me to synchronize my music files with ipod.... however i just want to copy files07:41
fuelthats it..... just drag and drop07:41
Linux_GaloreSkuller: tells me you have formated the drive as ntfs or hfs07:41
fueland kde/linux shows me wrong size07:41
c0nv1ctNumber2: strange, it installed without problems in my Kubuntu edgy07:41
fueli suppose some problem with the driver or something07:41
c0nv1ctNumber2: what version u got?07:41
SkullerCould not change permissions for /media/Skuller's Flash/System Volume Information/_restore{59C6BC0C-E1E1-42D6-9440-5CF1C21C2C09}/RP58/change.log.07:42
Number22.6.17-1107:42
Number2generic07:42
c0nv1ctNumber2: version of vmware07:42
intelikeyMena ok...07:42
Number25.507:42
intelikeywhat about it ?07:42
c0nv1ctNumber2: 5.5.2?07:42
SkullerLinux_Galore: yes it is in ntfs...but i was able to use it n rite to it n everything b4....only today i saw the problem07:42
fueleven df shows me wrong statistics07:42
Linux_GaloreSkuller: ntfs by default is read only in Linux, ntfs isnt documented07:43
Number2VMware-workstation-5.5.0-18463.tar.gz07:43
fuelhow do i check the file system ???07:43
c0nv1ctNumber2: try getting a newer version, it might help07:43
Menaintelikey, ok07:43
Number2ok07:43
Number2thanks07:43
fuelnot checking literally.....for example what fs is hdb2 or something like that07:43
intelikeyMena is all you wanted, for me to see it ?07:43
SkullerLinux_Galore: then how was i able to write things to it just a while back?...i have not enabled fuse or anything like that either07:43
c0nv1ctNumber2: it looks like 5.5.3 is latest, but 5.5.2 installed on my machine fine07:43
Linux_GaloreSkuller: could be a corruption god knows, you can get ntfs to work to some degree but its very buggy07:44
Number2okay thanks07:44
Linux_GaloreSkuller: just format it as fat3207:44
Number2i grabbed 5.5 its the only key i have07:44
c0nv1ctNumber2: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/07:44
intelikeyfuel you can check the partitions type (which may or may not reflect actual fs type) by  fdisk -l07:44
SkullerLinux_Galore: hmm...i need to give somethings to one of my teachers...and obviously hes runnin xp....now what?07:44
Linux_GaloreSkuller: fat32 is well documented ntfs isnt and it varies depending on what version of windows you have and what service pack is used07:45
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Linux_GaloreSkuller: xp works with fat32 just fine07:45
Skullerohh....so i can rite in fat32 from kubun?07:45
fuel!pastebin07:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:45
Menaintelikey, yes but never mind i tried it its like fs-driver but also utf8 problem07:45
c0nv1ctSkuller: burn it to a CD?07:45
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Linux_GaloreSkuller: yes fat32 is fully documented07:45
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Skulleroh cool07:45
intelikeymena ah i see.  sorry.07:46
Skullerc0nv1ct: that would be a waste wouldnt it?07:46
SkullerLinux_Galore: thanx07:46
c0nv1ctc0nv1ct: i guess it depends on how you are giving it to your teacher07:46
fuelintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9595/07:46
intelikeySkuller writing to vfat is supported in linux yes.07:46
Menaintelikey, i realy searched again bec i need a program to enable me to explor my parts form windows explorer not from the program like explore2fs-1.08beta9.exe07:46
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Skullerc0nv1ct: yes thats true....i think it would be appropriate to burn it for a teacher rather than a flash drive most cases....07:47
Linux_GaloreSkuller: vfat/fat32 works on all platforms so its best to use that as a default, using ntfs for a thumb drive is over kill07:47
Menaintelikey, Never mind :) and Thanks if i need help i will ask :)07:47
intelikeyfuel  lol07:47
intelikeydon't know how to follow dirrections too well do we...07:48
intelikeysudo fdisk -l07:48
SkullerLinux_Galore: yea...that would be nice...thanx fer da info07:48
intelikeydo not add the partition to the command07:48
Skullerc0nv1ct: thnx fer da info07:48
intelikeyyou can add the disk if you want to limit it to that disk07:48
intelikeybut not the partition.07:48
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fuelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9596/07:49
intelikeyi.e.  fdisk -l /dev/sdb      would work.    fdisk -l /dev/sdb1   wont.07:49
fuelhere is the biggest joke07:49
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firemonkeyballzuhh the rtc package seems to be missing07:49
fueldu shows me only 1gb is used,07:49
firemonkeyballzat boot07:49
firemonkeyballzhelp07:49
fueldh tells me 17GB is used07:49
fuel!07:50
fuelwtf x(07:50
SkullerLinux_Galore: i am using qtparted...it doesnt have the option of formatting to fat32...only 16...07:50
Menaintelikey, i just found the way to enable utf8 from the program :007:50
Mena:)07:50
c0nv1ctfuel: what about df -H?07:50
firemonkeyballzanyone?07:50
fuelc0nv1ct: that also has been posted..... at the beginning07:51
fuelc0nv1ct: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9597/07:51
fueldu = 1.6 and df=18GB ? something definitely wrong07:52
firemonkeyballzuhh the rtc package seems to be missing...helllp!!!07:52
Skulleris it safe and right to format a thumb drive to fat 16 if it is to be used in both linux n windows?07:53
c0nv1ctfuel: how are you executing du?07:53
intelikeyfuel    du -Lchx --max-depth=1 /media/iPod 2> /dev/null07:53
c0nv1ctSkuller: my thumbdrive says its fat1607:53
Skullerc0nv1ct: oh...so not fat32....07:53
intelikeyfuel that might show the actual usage ?07:53
Skullercool then..i'll do just that07:53
fuelintelikey:  whats the use of that ? you are putting all the stuff into null07:53
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c0nv1ctSkuller: i guess you dont need fat32, depending on how big it is07:53
c0nv1ctSkuller: mine was fat16 ootb07:54
Skuller128mb07:54
intelikeyfuel shows the limitation of your knowladge doesn't it.07:54
c0nv1cti'd say fat16 would be fine, but i dont think it'll matter much07:54
fuel?07:54
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Skullerwhy cant i format a thumb drive in fat32 using qtparted?07:55
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Skulleri mean a problem? or a limitation?07:55
fuelintelikey: same result07:55
intelikeySkuller why are youusing a partitioning tool to make a file system  ?07:55
c0nv1ctmkfs?07:55
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Skullerintelikey: i have a situation. i need to get my flash drive to work on linux n windows thas all...what do i do to the flash drive?..it is curently in ntfs07:56
firemonkeyballz!rtc07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rtc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
intelikeyfuel then i'd have to have "hands on" to figure out what is going on...07:56
c0nv1ctSkuller: intelikey is right, u dont need to partition it, just format it07:56
firemonkeyballz!real time clock07:56
Skulleryes...under format i do it with fat16 right?07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real time clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
PF-Awayi thought the x11-common package was fixed07:56
PF-Away!rtc07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rtc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
c0nv1ctSkuller: sure, that'll work07:57
intelikeySkuller use windows to make it fat3207:57
PF-Awaymkfs.vfat?07:57
Skullerohh...ok..cool...thanx07:57
intelikeythat's the simplest way to ensure that both can access it.07:57
firemonkeyballzpf sais its missing at boot07:57
geniiskuller from linux: mkfs.vfat -F 3207:57
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Skullerohh07:57
Skullerhow do i use that command?07:58
geniiskuller But that may do you no good anyhow if the partition type still thinks it is NTFS.07:58
intelikeyvfat should default to fat32 anyway.  but still you may end up with something that windows can't see   if you use windows to format it then windows can   and linux can too07:58
c0nv1ctSkuller: just like he typed, but add the device to the end07:58
PF-Away!feisty07:58
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Skullerc0nv1ct: what is to be added for the devie?07:59
intelikeySkuller something like    sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1        assuming sda107:59
c0nv1ctyeah, whatever device it is labeled, and dont pick the wrong one :P07:59
firemonkeyballzhellllpppp07:59
Skullerohh..ok..lol...07:59
intelikeySkuller use    sudo fdisk -l   to list the partitions/disks07:59
firemonkeyballzuhh the rtc package seems to be missing...helllp!!!08:00
intelikeythen use the correct device.08:00
fuelintelikey: i did not look at "2" in your suggestion :D08:00
intelikeyfuel obviously.08:00
geniiskuller Best way actually is to boot into windoze, partition and format it there, as intelikey suggested. Linux will see it after that certainly. If you have for instance ntfs partition and fat32 filesystem, linux wuill not have issues mounting it (it cares not much about partition types if you specify filesystem explicitly) but windoze will not be able to reconcile different partition vs...08:00
genii...filesystem on it08:00
Skullerohh....ok then i'll def use windows08:01
Skullerthanx all u08:01
intelikeyno body ever listens to me...08:01
c0nv1ctSkuller: yeah, to be safe, its a good idea08:01
intelikeymaybe i speek  congeption   or some strange language....08:02
Skullerlol sorry man08:02
geniiintelikey LOL08:02
c0nv1ctintelikey: its all clicks and whistles to me08:02
intelikey:)08:02
intelikeyprezavtly.08:02
Skullerno offence...i was panicking08:02
intelikeyprezactly.08:03
geniiintelikey Well, we could walk him thru fdisk certainly but easier for a newbie to just do it all from in windoze for simplicity08:03
Skulleryea08:03
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intelikeygenii and also the blanking of the first sector so windows doesnt' panic anyway...  but why not do it the easy way...08:03
firemonkeyballzam I dead?08:03
miltoshi ppl:-] 08:03
Skullerintelikey: what is the easy way?08:04
intelikey!rtc08:04
c0nv1ctfiremonkeyballz: maybe, punch yourself in the balls to see08:04
miltosWhere on hell is the KDM theme manager on my Kubuntu?08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rtc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
intelikeySkuller do it from the windows side.08:04
Skulleryea...lol..i got that now..08:04
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz   there is an   rtc module in the kernel08:05
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intelikeywhat rtc are you talking about ?08:06
firemonkeyballzhow did it go missing?08:06
firemonkeyballzat boot08:06
miltos<intelikey>, any ideas where can I find kdm theme manager?08:06
intelikeyshow me the error08:06
c0nv1ctmiltos: its in the repos08:06
geniirtc= real time clock yes?08:06
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firemonkeyballzcant unless I setup loging of boot08:06
c0nv1ctmiltos: apt-get install kdmtheme08:06
intelikey!theeme08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about theeme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz it's not in  dmesg   or  /var/log/* ?08:07
miltos<cOnvlct>, i've installed it already, how can i start it?08:07
intelikey!theme08:07
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:07
fuelintelikey: any idea how to find the fs of a drive ?08:07
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c0nv1ctmiltos: kcontrol, go to System Administration08:07
fueli seriously doubt that this ipod(my friends) is vfat08:07
intelikeyfuel   if  sudo fdisk -l    doesn't tell you    try mounting it...08:08
fuelmtab tells me its vfat08:08
miltosi can't find kcontrol...08:08
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intelikeyfuel without actually looking into the device node that's the simple way.08:08
c0nv1ctmiltos: just right click on desktop and click "Run"08:08
c0nv1ctmiltos: then type kcontrol08:09
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intelikeymiltos   alt+f2   kcontrol08:09
c0nv1ctmiltos: yeah, or run it from a console08:09
miltosthanks...08:09
firemonkeyballzlooking08:09
c0nv1ctkcontrol doesnt seem to be in the menus, probably replaced by the System Settings app08:09
intelikeyconsole != [konsole,terminal] 08:09
intelikeygenii eyh08:10
Aiwuui will back tomorrow :), because... i need to solve my beryl problem XD:)08:10
intelikeytake over for me.08:11
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miltosis there any way to put kcontrol on my system menus?08:11
intelikeykmenu-editor08:11
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intelikeykmenuedit08:12
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compilerwritermy auth.log file is getting rather large.  Can I remove it and then the system will create a new one or what should I do?08:12
intelikeycompilerwriter yes it will08:12
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Skuller!voip08:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
geniicompilerwriter: Yes it will just auto-remake it08:13
Skuller!voicechat08:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voicechat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
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intelikeycompilerwriter auth.log is where login information is stored   so servers rotate the auth.log on a schedual and keep compressed backups.08:13
genii!ekiga | Skuller08:13
ubotuskuller: ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB08:13
Skullergenii: ohh...i have another problem...we use credit card to use yahoo messenger's voip capabilities...any way to use that?08:14
miltosthanks...leaving08:14
Skullergenii: thnx btw08:14
compilerwriterintelikey Does Kubuntu rotate it automatically for me or should I manage it with a cron job?08:14
intelikeyfailed login info   maybe i should say08:14
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geniiSkuller There are others such as Skype and GizmoProject but they are not in the main repositories since not open-source, which ekiga is08:14
intelikeycompilerwriter yes08:14
intelikeycompilerwriter it's a cron job   "logrotate"08:15
Skullergenii: yes i have skype..but i dont use it because it is expensive to use for calling india...i use yahoo messenger..any way to use that protocol for calling normal fones?08:15
compilerwriterIntelikey so I should just let it be as it is already handling itself08:15
intelikeyls /etc/cron.daily/08:16
geniiSkuller: I am not aware of any Yahoo to VOIP bridge as of yet.08:16
Skullergenii: ok...i have to make frequent visits to windows for this reason anywaiz....thnx fer the info08:16
intelikeycan be tweeked from there08:16
intelikeyif you wish.08:16
compilerwriterI have a logrotate entry.  I should just stop worrying then.08:16
geniiSkuller: np08:16
intelikeycompilerwriter   edit /etc/logrotate.conf08:18
intelikeyas seems you well.08:18
geniiSkuller Incidentally GizmoProject has same computer-to-phone capability as Skype, but you need to register the remote phone number to their network first to connect for free (where physically possible)08:18
intelikeymine is set to keep 4 weeks of backups.  i think that's still default.08:19
firemonkeyballzumm not even my acpi is running08:19
firemonkeyballzbecause of it08:19
Skullergenii: i dint get you08:19
Skullergenii: are you telling me i can call a pstn for free?08:20
geniiSkuller There is a program called GizmoProject. It is basically a clobe of Skype. If you have a phone number which is added to their network by registering a user name to it, you can use the computer to make a telephone call to that telephone number for no cost.08:20
compilerwriterintelikey That is the default still.08:21
geniiSkuller Yes08:21
firemonkeyballzbootlogd: cannot find console device 136:5 in /dev08:21
firemonkeyballz   ...fail!08:21
Skullergenii: and i presume it would cost to register the number08:21
geniiSkuller: I call from here in Toronto to my friend in Hawaii often for free by using GizmoProject client in fact.08:21
geniiSkuller No, there is no cost involved in registering anything.08:22
Skullergenii: i dont understand..then how am i allowed to call a pstn number for free?08:22
Skullergenii: ok..i'll researhh on it more on the net08:22
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geniiSkuller:More info here: http://www.gizmoproject.com/08:23
intelikeywhat is that a wacom tablet ?08:23
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz the major 136 nimor 5 device ?08:23
intelikeysounds like wacom08:23
geniiSkuller The rates they list on the site are only if you are calling an unregistered phone number btw08:24
firemonkeyballzhave a acer 5100 tho08:24
firemonkeyballznot sur if its my modem08:24
Skullergenii: ohh...08:25
Skullergenii: yea i m looking more on the site...thnx08:25
geniiSkuller: np08:25
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Skullergenii: damn...india is not one of those countries to be called for free08:26
geniiSkuller :(08:26
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intelikey!skype08:28
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto08:28
intelikeywhat's that other...08:28
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intelikey!frostwire08:29
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:29
intelikeythat's what i was thinking of..  nm.08:29
Skulleri presume that ekiga doesnt allow to call msn users08:30
Elvis_Presley!es08:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:32
Elvis_Presley:(08:32
Elvis_Presley:D08:32
geniiSkuller: Generally for anything not voip I use GAIM which does most types of instant messaging08:34
Skullergenii: oh thas good...i am using kopete for non-voip services08:34
Skullergenii: altho i still cudnt get my webcam to work on kubun...frustrating08:34
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geniiSkuller: kopete is also well recommended. I use GAIM mostly because I have different platforms and it is available for may operating systems, so it is a consistent interface no matter what machine I am on08:35
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Skullergenii: yes...the interface part is a good thing about it.....08:36
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intelikeyhmmm   wengophone - SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features08:37
intelikeyin the repos..08:38
intelikeyanyone ever used it ?08:38
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userundintelikey, nope, I don't know anyone who has it I can call with it.  But it intrigues me...08:40
geniiyes I just found that one as well but never heard of or seen it before now08:41
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intelikeyyeah that does seem to be a trend.  there are a quentillion apps that may or may not be "most excellent" but we don't know cause they are never used by anyone...08:41
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intelikeyi figure if you are going to streach it      then                                                                                S-------------------------------------T------------------------------------R---------------------------------E-------------------------------A---------------------------C-------------------------------H------------------------ IT.08:43
stuart_!can someone please advise general principles of port forwarding using a firewall such as firestarter08:43
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userund!firewall08:43
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:43
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genii!info gnophone08:43
ubotuPackage gnophone does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas08:43
stuart_!firewall08:44
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:44
geniiDarn too bad. Digium makes it08:44
intelikeyfirestarter is the configuration tool   iptables is the firewall.08:44
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stuart_when enabling an inbound connection on a port or range of ports.... eg. to allow bittorrent to work. What are the implications?08:44
userundwell I for one am going to break the mold and try wengo.  I'd really like a cross-platform VoIP with video.  I was looking at possibly buying Skype credit and liked new features like sending SMS for versions > 2.2, but then saw Linux version was still on 1.3...08:45
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stuart_waylandbill: r u here?08:46
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stuart_intelikey: when enabling an inbound connection on a port or range of ports.... eg. to allow bittorrent to work. What are the implications?08:46
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intelikeystuart_ sorry you want the network guy.08:47
intelikeyi'm the  fs guy08:47
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stuart_intelikey: fs?08:48
intelikeyif i knew i'd tell ya.   if genii would stop hiding he might know.08:48
firemonkeyballznow would I log boot?08:48
intelikeyfs = file system08:48
stuart_ah ok08:49
stuart_so who might be able to help do u think08:49
geniistuart_ You can port-forward the bittorrent ports from your router to a box on your network without any worries08:49
intelikeystuart_ genii might.08:49
geniiintelikey I had too many channels open to find the right one immediately :)08:49
intelikey:)08:49
stuart_genii: i;m confused in general - to the point my router has firewall disabled :)08:50
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stuart_genii: but firestarter is at least running08:50
geniistuart_ Does your computer or your router login to your ISP?08:50
stuart_genii: having a hardware and software firewall -- do they conflict or can they happily coexist08:51
stuart_genii: yes - permanent ADSL connection08:51
geniistuart_ In most cases they can coexist without issues08:51
stuart_genii: so you would have to open the same ports on both08:51
geniistuart_ So your router is doing the ADSL login part?08:51
stuart_genii: i have a username and password that the modem/router has been configured for yes08:52
stuart_genii: maybe i should just ask you about firestarter...08:52
intelikeysome times the wiki's show a great deal of ignorance.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftPhone   <<< example one.   the commands    # sudo su -  "should be" sudo -i  "but is entirely useless, not needed for an apt-cache search..."  and even if it was needed...   sudo apt-cache search   would be prefered  rather than remaining in a root shell...08:53
geniiStuart_ OK that is what I needed to know :) So the router itself is getting the IP number from your provider in this case. Your computer gets an internal IP from the router. So you need to port-forward the ports from outside (internet) on your router to the IP of your computer. On the computer side you do not need to do anything after this as far as port twiddling etc08:53
userundno time like the present to correct it, intelikey ;)08:54
intelikeyuserund go ahead.  i'm not regestered with ubuntu08:54
userundnor am I.08:54
stuart_genii: to get a service to work by ocnfiguring firestarter... i have option of enabling a port or a range of ports. Also there is the "allow connections" and "allow services" options08:54
stuart_genii: is the concept of opening a port under firestarter the same as port forwarding for a router?08:55
geniistuart_ For firestarter in conjunction with the port-forwarding of the router then, enable the bittorrent range (I forget the exact numbers)08:55
firemonkeyballzeh im just going to redo my bootscripts via adept08:55
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geniistuart_ Bittorrent ports: 6881-699908:56
jean-bhi everybody08:56
userunderr don't you mean 6889?  that's a hell of a lot of ports to open for BT.08:57
jean-bi've read here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php that the last version of amarok was available08:57
jean-bso according to the above mentioned web site08:57
BearcatI had a "How the heck does kubuntu do that?"  moment tonight.  I saw incremental searching with totals in konqueror with totals in the search plug in. Try as i might i can't get my machine to do that and my machine is compiled from source. How does kubuntu do that??08:57
stuart_genii: so which of the firestarter options to use? The allow service "knows" what ports to open for bittorrent and opens a big range. Am i better (safer?) to enable a single port via the "allow connection from host" option (which then asks me for an IP host or network and I'm not sure what to enter).08:57
jean-bi put to commands in konsole08:57
jean-b wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg08:57
jean-band sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg08:58
geniiuserund 6889 Is top end of old range. Newest range ends now at 6999 as of bittorrent 3.2 onwards08:58
jean-bi added this source deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main08:58
jean-band then what?08:58
Jucatojean-b: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:58
stuart_genii: also. when not using bittorrent should i disable those ports. If the portsd are open for bittorrent versus open for host what r the security implications?08:59
geniistuart_ Your router will only allow that range thru to your internal IP. Then firestarter will pass those ports onto bittorrent client. There is little chance of an exploit08:59
jean-bi'll try that jucato08:59
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intelikeyas for VoIP  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga  ekiga still seems to be the "prefered" app.08:59
stuart_genii: that's if i allow the bittorent service rather than generally open the ports via that "host" option???08:59
jean-bi already did update and upgrade09:00
geniistuart_ Yes09:00
jean-bbut not dist-upgrade09:00
Bearcatintelikey: i like twinkle09:00
stuart_genii: so opening a port other than via the "allow bittorrent service" option is more risky?09:00
intelikeyBearcat you use it much ?09:00
Bearcatintelikey: nope. I can;t get my bluetooth headset working. I lost the charger :(09:01
geniistuart_ Precisely. Firestarter will do a simple examination of the packets to see they are really for bittorrent clients and not some attempt to hack in. On the router it is just a range with UDP to pass to the internal IP09:01
intelikeynobody uses wired headsets anymore...09:02
Bearcatintelikey: do you know what i'm talking about with the search plug in and how to enable that? I'm flummoxed.09:02
jean-bJucato: i've got 4 upgrade, but none of them is amarok09:02
stuart_genii: ok, so on the router I port forward those ports that firestarter chooses to open when I select the enable bittorrent service option?09:02
intelikeysearch plug in    blue tooth ?09:03
Bearcatintelikey: no in konqueror09:03
intelikeyor maybe i should just say no.09:03
userundintelikey, I'd love to find a wireless 'phone' like a few available for skype and just keep all my normal calls over a wengo or ekiga.  I don't think any work in Linux though.09:03
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angersalut a tous09:03
intelikeyBearcat call jucato.  konqueror is his specality09:03
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userundanger, bonsoir09:03
jean-bsalut anger09:03
userund!fr | anger09:03
ubotuanger: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:03
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Bearcatintelikey: if you type cat in the search plugin the drop down gives you cat (2000), catalog(500), catsup( 900) or something. My distro does not do that. :(09:04
geniistuart_ Yes. The bittorrent client afterwards may choose to open some other port but initially the standard range in from the router only will be used to initiate the service.09:04
jean-bJucato: it did not upgrade amarok09:04
intelikeyJucato see Bearcat ?09:05
stuart_genii: thanks. Do you recommend enabling the router firewall? Is it the 2 layers (hardware and software) that is better than 1 or is the router firewall "better" than something like firestarter?09:05
BearcatSee Bearcat run? Run Bearcat Run?09:05
intelikeypatients...........09:05
Bearcatit was a joke on the old learning to read books09:06
Bearcatsomething in your phrasing reminded me of htem09:06
Bearcatthem09:06
intelikeyspot09:06
Bearcatyup09:07
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jean-bneed help to install last amarok from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php09:07
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intelikeyspot was the dog in our first readers    see spot run09:07
geniistuart_ Just being behind a router (with or without it's own firewall) will drop all incoming traffic that was not initiated from a machine on your internal network(unless you have specified a DMZ machine for instance).So the firewall on the router is not so neccesary.09:07
Bearcatintelikey: that;s right. adn Dick and jane.09:07
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stuart_genii: thanks very much :)09:08
intelikeystop you're making me feel old09:08
geniistuart_ You are welcome :)09:08
intelikeythat was half a century ago09:08
intelikeywell almost09:08
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intelikeydont make me run over you with my wheel chare and hit you on the head with my cain.....09:09
intelikeychait09:09
intelikeychair09:10
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intelikeyseat damn it09:10
geniiThey say typing is one of the first things to go...09:10
Bearcatlol09:10
Bearcatwell i'm only 3409:10
intelikeyit is ont09:10
intelikeynto09:10
intelikeynot09:10
intelikeyactually there are three sure signs of old age09:11
geniiintelikey From what I can glean you are slightly (but only slightly) older than me09:11
intelikey1. the memory starts to fail.09:11
cptnspoona/s/l09:11
simon__ Hey Jean what's your problem with amorock ?09:11
intelikey2.09:11
geniicptnspoon LOL This is not a dating channel09:12
intelikeygenii i think we have been over this.  and yeah.  i'm not 50 yet,   but it's approaching much to quickly for my taste09:12
userund50 is the new 4009:13
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akrushey09:13
intelikeywhich was the new 3009:13
akruscould someone recommend webcam software? :D09:13
geniiintelikey Well I'm hitting 40 this year and just thinking about it seems to make me feel old09:13
intelikey!webcam09:13
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:13
akruswow09:13
geniiSo if life expectancy is like 80 should I get a midlife crisis at 40?09:14
geniiLOL09:14
intelikeyyeah and if i remember number 2.  i'll tell you.09:14
intelikey1. the memory starts to fail.09:15
intelikey2.09:15
intelikey......09:15
geniiintelikey Yes, I caught the irony of not remembering # 2 already09:15
genii3) Repeating things09:15
intelikeyoh did i say that already ?09:15
Skullerlol09:15
intelikey:)09:15
genii:)09:16
intelikeyty for falling in and finishing the joke for me.09:16
Skuller:)09:16
geniiintelikey np09:16
Skuller2) remembering things in the middle of other things09:16
intelikeyno that's not it.09:17
Skullerdamn..i knew this point was for some other thing09:17
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Skuller:)09:17
geniiintelikey You and I are likely the only ones here that ever saw a computer that didn't use a monitor or keyboard actually09:17
eoswhoa09:18
intelikeywhen you start to the rest room and don't remember if you were going or done been.  then you know age has sliped up on you.09:18
Skullerhey...don fly too high...i've seen a PDA ok..so chillax it09:18
eosthat shti is olschool yo09:18
Skullerlol09:18
eosREAL oldschool09:18
intelikeygenii could be.09:18
userundgenii, I've seen 'em... in black and white photos09:18
eosi mean, like ENIAC or the Mark V09:18
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geniiLOL09:18
eoswow09:18
eoshave not remembered those in a long time09:18
eosi did a school research paper on them once09:19
Skulleryea...ENIAC...usin shit many vaccum tubes wich went bad faster than ur dogs flea collar09:19
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geniieos The first machines I ever laid my hands on were PDP9 and PDP11 as well as an old IBM 3930 and a VAX09:19
Skullerhehe true09:19
eosi'd have to wiki that to know what they were09:20
intelikeywell i remember when the "pocket calculator" made it's de'beau ...09:20
eosmy first compy was an apple II09:20
geniieos Yeah they were cool :)09:20
eosyeps09:20
eosi lsot mine fast, but wanting it back and trying to fix it set me one the path i'm on today09:20
eoslittle kids breaks computer easily, yo09:21
eosespecially something as easily messed up as an older computer like an apple II was09:21
geniieos I understand. I used to terrify my parents by disassembling anything I ever got for gifts09:21
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Bearcatnight all09:22
Bearcatthanks again09:22
geniiBearcat Sleep well :)09:22
Bearcat*scampers off*09:22
Bearcatthank you09:23
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geniieos I remember the AppleII, the Atari 400 and the Commodore Vic20 all had 6502 CPU09:23
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geniiIt was common to get a 5 1/4 disk with AppleII game on one side and VIC20 game on the other side09:24
eosi want to get a commodore 6409:24
eosfor old timey ness sake09:24
eos:O a new word or two!09:25
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geniieos Damn I just gave my ancient c64 away not a month ago actually.That and a 12809:25
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eosdamn09:25
eosi think there are likely emulators about for them09:25
intelikeyyes there are09:25
geniiPOKE 53280,0:POKE53281,0:POKE646,109:25
geniiROFL09:25
eosright now getting this kubuntu install stable (as far as runnign smoothly it is stable, has been out of the box os to speak) and set up for convenience09:26
eosbasically all the comforts of windows without the windows09:26
eosiv'e tried linux again and again09:26
eosdebian, breifly, and then a lot of suse09:26
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geniiThe C64 emulators are pretty good.They ran my old games right off the disks perfect09:27
eosan ubuntu install that would have went better if i had internet access at the time09:27
intelikey!find xmame09:27
ubotuFound: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)09:27
genii!basilisk209:27
ubotubasilisk2: 68k Macintosh emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.20050730-1 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 784 kB09:27
genii:)09:27
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eossomeday i imagine i'll get around to looking up a C-64 emulator09:27
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intelikeyi thought i just did09:28
geniieos I played "Impossible Mission" for days09:28
intelikey!info kxmame09:28
ubotukxmame: A KDE frontend for xmame emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.91-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 348 kB, installed size 1444 kB09:29
geniiI think it may have been the first ever game with voice synthesis on a home computer actually09:29
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genii!info vice09:30
ubotuvice: The Versatile Commodore Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.19-1 (edgy), package size 3231 kB, installed size 8832 kB09:30
intelikeydoesn't mame do commodore ?09:31
intelikeyi'm sure it does.09:31
geniiintelikey I think it's more for strictly old-school games whereas vice does the whole computer09:32
waylandbillversatile and commodore in the same sentence ?!?09:32
eosfrom what i see in wiki Impossible Mission is somewhat like Crystal Caves, whihc was my first video game09:32
eosit looks cool09:32
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geniiwaylandbill Actually they were way ahead of their times. You should have seen the technical reference book that came with them09:32
eosalso, from wiki: "The Commodore 64 version of Impossible Mission will be one of the games available on the Wii's Virtual Console."09:33
waylandbillI owned one of the first lines of Vic20, then the c64 and the c128 actually.09:33
intelikeywaylandbill c64's were a big thing when they came out....   now one of them and a buck two ninty five will get you a soda pop09:33
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eosrofl commodor 64 for a pop09:33
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waylandbillyou were something in your neighborhood if you had a c64.09:34
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saw2434 Is there a way to tell what video you card you have once you're running kubuntu?09:34
geniiInterestingly Some swedish guys oveclocked some 6510 chips (C64 core) to 8Mhz when the original speed was something like just under 1 Mhz09:34
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intelikeywaylandbill yeah.  we called it "rich"09:34
waylandbill:)09:34
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waylandbillI'm sure I paid the same for that as this laptop. :-D09:35
intelikeysaw2434   lshw | less09:35
geniisaw2434: lspci result should show some lines with ATI or NVidia or other videocard maker in the result someplace09:35
geniiintelikey even better :)09:35
saw2434thanks, i know i have nvidia i just forgot how old it was09:35
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eoshmm and here i came up with k menu >> system settings >> display >> hardware tab09:35
intelikeywaylandbill but wages were less than a third what they are now... so you paid  3X as much for it.09:36
geniieos More than 1 way to skin a cat (not that I have anything against cats of course)09:36
akrus!webcam09:36
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:36
eoscommandline is sexy09:36
geniiakrus As well most webcams work well with Kopete09:36
intelikeypeal the bark off of a felion ?09:37
akrusgenii: they do, but no sound :o09:37
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geniiakrus I'm more of a networking guy so not much help there09:38
saw2434does anyone happen to know off hand if a nvidia  geforce2 mx/mx 400 video card with run with beryl?09:38
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c0nv1ctsaw2434: it probably will, but not all that fast09:38
intelikey!beryl09:39
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:39
intelikeymight ask ^ in there09:39
Compleja:(09:40
intelikey(:09:40
saw2434thanks09:40
waylandbillmmm. over the falls in a beryl.09:41
waylandbillI must say. The family likes closing windows that burst into flame.09:41
intelikeyberyl over fails ??? what09:41
waylandbillover fails. hehe :-O09:42
geniiI haven't even tried bothering with beryl yet. All my stuff works great as-is09:42
waylandbillwas referencing niagara falls. noone survives them in a barrel... or a beryl I guess.09:42
intelikeyi have a gui running.   but i haven't been in it for hours....09:42
geniiI hope AMD opens up some old ATI source code for drivers. We'll all be better off09:43
intelikeyof course not. waylandbill09:43
geniiintelikey For irc in commandline whats your preference? I like ircii09:43
intelikeygenii i really can't see how that will help me.  but if you say so.09:44
intelikeybx09:44
intelikeyepic09:44
Compleja:(09:44
waylandbillbitchx is the last irc I've used in cli. It's been a long time though09:45
geniiintelikey Well, most beryl/GL issues currently seem to deal with itinerant ATI drivers or cards and there are only binary drivers etc etc09:45
intelikeybut it's more about the defaults than anything else.   irssi and epic/bx can both do the same things in the same basic ways....09:45
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waylandbillgenii: now that I can agree with.09:45
waylandbillI'm thinking about trying beryl out on my nvidia desktop.. on a /real/ video card.09:46
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intelikeyoh my   a real one.... where did you get that ?09:47
geniiLOL09:47
waylandbill:)09:47
intelikeythis nvidia riva 128 works just fine for all i don in the console....09:48
intelikeys/don/do/09:48
waylandbillit does make this ati card look like someone is hand drawing the pixels.09:48
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intelikeythat would be different.09:49
Compleja:(09:49
firemonkeyballzummm had to re install09:49
firemonkeyballzand umm damn clock09:49
firemonkeyballzits like saying its 8am in the morning09:49
firemonkeyballzwhen its near one am09:49
firemonkeyballzso yea it was the rtc09:49
intelikeyCompleja are you just frowning for the camera, or do you have something borked up ?09:49
firemonkeyballzintelikey is this a perm bios error?09:50
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geniiWhen most of my computers were Windoze based I was a great proponent of ATI. A bit because they were a Canadian company too, but they did make great stuff. But somehwere they went astray andwere slow to support linux. Any newer boxes now that I would have to put a video card in I would use an NVidia09:50
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz more like a ztconfig error.   run "sudo txconfig"09:50
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz the time is correct   for  utc   so set your tz correctly09:51
Complejaintelikey, for the camera09:51
ComplejaxD09:51
Compleja:(09:51
intelikeyok.  just checking09:51
Compleja^^09:52
waylandbillif you set it to utc, you won't have to worry about setting it for daylight silly time. :)09:52
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firemonkeyballz6.06 kubuntu no have txconfig09:52
firemonkeyballzhave to use nano09:52
intelikeytzconfig09:53
intelikeyz not x09:53
firemonkeyballzoops09:53
firemonkeyballzwell it sais its la usa09:53
firemonkeyballzand i live in sf09:53
firemonkeyballzsoo09:53
firemonkeyballzumm09:54
firemonkeyballzk09:54
geniiwaylandbill: Yeah my hw clock is always set to UTC09:54
geniiPST I believe is San Fran timezone09:54
intelikeymine too.  but i do remember kde pitchin' a hissy fit about it.09:54
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geniiperhaps greenwich -8 or so09:55
intelikeyfiremonkeyballz in a konsole do   date09:55
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firemonkeyballzuhh date is fine09:55
intelikeydo date and  hwclock match ?09:56
firemonkeyballznow it sais 6:54:47 hst09:56
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intelikeydid you run date ?09:56
geniiIsn't that Hawain timezone?09:56
intelikeydid you run hwclock ?09:56
intelikeyno you are still fighting with kde.09:57
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firemonkeyballzsais 10:56:56 pm hst09:57
firemonkeyballzon hw clock09:58
miltosI've got an *.iso file on my external hd, how do I mount the image?  I typed 'sudo mount /media/usbdisk/alt.binaries.cbt/Suse_01.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop09:58
miltos" and nothing happens...09:58
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geniihst = utc-10  pst=utc-8  <-- you want PST09:58
intelikeyk the clock needs set.  do this       sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --systohc09:59
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firemonkeyballzcouldnt I do a systohc09:59
intelikeythe screen saver will probably come on09:59
geniimiltos put -t and -o switches between mount command and first path. Then remove trailing slash from destination09:59
firemonkeyballzor use adjust?10:00
geniimiltos If it still won't mount you may have a UDF iso so use udf instead of iso9660 as filesystem type10:00
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uroshi all what is the kde path in kubuntu?10:01
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firemonkeyballz--hctosys that will work10:02
firemonkeyballz:D10:02
firemonkeyballzyey10:04
firemonkeyballzfixed10:04
firemonkeyballzer not10:04
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geniifiremonkeyballz: Your mileage may vary : http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux10:06
firemonkeyballzgenii you know this is worse than y2k10:07
intelikeynobody listens to me...10:07
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firemonkeyballzsorry10:07
firemonkeyballzI appoligize10:08
geniiIt is worse this year since they are screwing around with all this stupid daylight savings time shifting crap10:08
firemonkeyballzweek early ?10:08
genii3 weeks of this time then shift back to this other time setting etc etc etc10:08
firemonkeyballzisnt there some sort of utilty to fix this10:09
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geniiAnyhow more info on the stupid DST shifting thing can be found here: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/us-daylight-saving-extended.html10:09
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miltos<genii> I've just typed "udo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/usbdisk/alt.binaries.cbt/Suse_01.iso /media/iso/10:10
miltos"...correct?10:10
waylandbillif you want more daylight, work later. that's what it comes down to.10:10
firemonkeyballzhrm is rdate aval?10:11
firemonkeyballzto download?10:11
geniimiltos You are missing an "s" from the sudo command and you need to remove the "/" at the end of /media/iso/" to make it only "/media/iso"10:12
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geniifiremonkeyballz: I think I'm just gonna use a timeserver until after 3 weeks from now10:13
firemonkeyballzgenii I thnk thats why xp has one10:14
geniifiremonkeyballz: At any rate,10:14
genii!ntp | firemonkeyballz10:14
ubotufiremonkeyballz: ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB10:14
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intelikeywaylandbill actually it "start your day ah hour eariler to save daylight"    dst10:15
Ayabara_I just started to use kubuntu instead of ubuntu, and used adept for the first time now. It asks if I want to upgrade to Feisty. Is Feisty stable enough that I should answer yes to that?10:15
firemonkeyballzno have edgy10:15
geniifiremonkeyballz: Well, ntp is across all dists :)10:16
firemonkeyballzintelikey im sure they will rewrite their programs to reflect the date10:16
miltos<genii>, nothing...and i've got an iso 9660 fs....10:16
waylandbillintelikey: forward, back, makes no difference. :)10:16
firemonkeyballzsome Ive noticed only read from the server10:16
geniimiltos ! minute and I will look into it10:16
genii1 minute, even10:16
firemonkeyballzrebooting10:16
firemonkeyballzbrb10:16
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=== intelikey just goes by the big clock in the sky
waylandbillintelikey: now that I agree with10:18
intelikeyit's more acurate than an atomic clock.10:18
geniimiltos When you do:  sudo ls -l /media/usbdisk/alt.binaries.cbt/Suse_01.iso   what size does it report for the file?10:19
intelikeywhy are you using sudo ?10:19
intelikeypfft !10:19
geniiintelikey Because I forgot if ls needed it or no so put it in for good measure10:19
geniiLOL10:20
intelikeya likely story.10:20
genii<-- Not enough caffeine10:20
miltos<genii>-r-x------ 1 miltos miltos 586981376 2007-03-10 10:29 /media/usbdisk/alt.binaries.cbt/Suse_01.iso10:20
geniimiltos OK wait a minute10:20
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intelikeylooks like an iso to me.    sudo mount -o loop /media/usbdisk/alt.binaries.cbt/Suse_01.iso /media/cdrom10:21
geniimiltos The file is incomplete. According to the suse site it should be more like 670Mb not 58010:22
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intelikeyah partial...   wget -c10:22
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geniiwaylandbill Thanks btw :)10:22
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miltosok...i will try another one10:22
firemonkeyballzok.. now stable enough to change stuff10:23
geniimiltos First you should make sure the download did not fail due to lack of room on hd10:23
waylandbillgenii: no prob. you got the second cup, cause I took the first for myself :P10:23
genii(or same thing will just keep happening)10:23
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waylandbilland not a bad idea to check the md5 checksum when the download is complete.10:24
miltos<genii>thanks...I'll check this...even there is plenty of room on HD10:24
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firemonkeyballzgahhh time changed again10:24
firemonkeyballzdate too10:24
geniimiltos Yes, since you are already using a linux box for the download you should run the md5 checker on it against the md5sum Suse provides10:24
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geniiintelikey I remember downloading packages *just* put up which timestamps were in the future (from my own time locally) and it would complain of martians LOL10:25
miltosthanks...I will be back...10:26
intelikey10:26
firemonkeyballzyey !!! convieniently named10:26
firemonkeyballzntp10:26
firemonkeyballzlol10:26
firemonkeyballzfound in adept10:27
intelikeyntp = network time protical10:27
geniifiremonkeyballz: So just pick a tick server (ntpd server) in your timezone and you are off to the races10:27
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intelikeyserver doesn't need to be local10:28
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intelikeycan be but they all post utc time10:28
geniiintelikey Well, better if closer10:29
geniilatency etc10:29
intelikeybetter if fast and reliably, reguardless of where10:29
geniiintelikey True10:29
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intelikeyi get good response out of the usn navy time server10:30
geniiYeah any .mil tld is good10:31
intelikeybut i don't recomend it for general every day use10:31
intelikeypool.ntp.org10:31
intelikeywell enough for what we do    maybe a little weller10:31
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geniiSince I am thinking of it atm, for those who hate having to run firefox under wine to see shockwave: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html10:36
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geniiintelikey Well, regardless, I think it is a good way to pressure them etc10:37
intelikey:)10:37
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icthello10:38
intelikeyFile: aliases           Col 0              46 bytes                         100%# Added by installer for initial user10:38
intelikeyroot:   x10:38
ictim beginer in kubuntu10:38
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intelikeyict and you are proud of that ?    or do you have a problem you'd like help with ?10:39
geniiLOL10:39
geniiict If you have some question you would like help with, just ask your question :)10:39
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firemonkeyballzwheee10:40
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intelikeysorry his grasp of english may not translate that very will10:40
firemonkeyballzjust found two linsys routers with no protection10:40
icthelp10:40
ictim indonesian10:40
ictada yang indo10:41
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geniifiremonkeyballz: I used to change all their router default paswords.Then I'd put the essid something like "SECUREYOURROUTER"10:41
firemonkeyballzlol10:41
firemonkeyballzchanged a neghbors password few years bck10:42
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intelikeyyou guys really don't need to talk to me about this.10:43
geniiHmm isn't indonesian language malay? I cannot atm remeber the countrycode for it10:43
firemonkeyballzgrr... zeroconf closed10:43
geniiintelikey Were you once a hapless victim of a hacked router? LOL10:43
firemonkeyballzneed zeroconf running10:44
intelikeyno but i don't want to have to do paper work on you .10:44
geniiheh10:44
genii<-- wears a white hat10:44
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intelikeyso that's why i said.10:46
intelikeywhat i said10:46
intelikeywhen i said it.      ya know.10:47
naught101has anyone recently cd-installed feisty and noticed that a lot of packages are crashing really frequently? ie. firefox, and wesnoth?10:48
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intelikeynaught101 two is not a lot.   #ubuntu+1 is the channel for alpha software and related chatter10:50
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intelikeyi.e. feisty10:51
e1merhi all, is there a kernel smp package for 386?10:51
intelikeye1mer ther 386-generic is smp10:51
e1merthanks intelikey10:52
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Jucato!generic10:52
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)10:52
intelikeysmp support is ready in all "generic" marked kernel packages10:52
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iz0awgciao10:54
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intelikey:)11:01
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JucatoO.o11:02
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intelikeyJucato we're off topic again ?11:02
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Jucato-_-11:02
intelikeyi was afraid of that11:02
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firecrotchOkay, I'm trying to recover a previous version of a file that I had worked on in Kate11:05
intelikeyls the path look for filename~11:05
firecrotchI opened the file from my webserver via FTP from Kate's Open dialog, then saved it directly back to the server11:06
intelikeyfilename filename~    filename~ would be the backup11:06
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JucatoI don't think Kate saves backups of remote files11:06
firecrotchProblem is, the only place it was ever stored was a temp folder somewhere11:06
geniiThe backup file would likely be then in the home directory of the user on the webserver which Kate was ran as11:07
firemonkeyballzoohoooh11:07
firemonkeyballzthink I fixed my clock11:07
intelikeythat would be ~/.kate~filename    maybe11:07
firecrotchgenii: Kate was ran on my computer, opening a file from my webserver11:08
firemonkeyballzsudo hwclock --hctosys   --hctosys dunno why this worked11:08
intelikeybut i don't think you'll find that unless kate crashed.  if you closed it it cleaned up after itself11:08
firemonkeyballzbut it did11:08
firemonkeyballzthe time matches11:08
geniifirecrotch so if a backup was made then it would be on the local computer inn the format intelikey described eg: ~/.kate or similar11:08
firemonkeyballz:D11:09
intelikeypossably /var/tmp/*    could be.11:09
firecrotchThanks, everyone, I'll start looking, hopefully there is something somewhere11:09
intelikeyfirecrotch not likely.11:10
intelikeybut tre bon chance11:10
geniiyes /var/tmp may hold some files like that as well eg: beginning or ending with tilde)11:10
firemonkeyballzhey11:10
firemonkeyballzguys11:10
firemonkeyballzI fixed it11:10
intelikeyhay11:11
geniifiremonkeyballz: Congrats LOL11:11
firemonkeyballzdid you see how11:11
intelikeywont hold through a reboot but    yay !11:11
firemonkeyballzdamn11:11
geniifiremonkeyballz: Yes, you told it to use the hardware clock as the system clock11:11
firemonkeyballzwell screen went blank11:12
intelikeyactually to set the system clock by the hwclock11:12
firemonkeyballzbut i pressed space11:12
firemonkeyballzeverything went back to normal11:12
intelikeyyep that's normal when the sysclock changes11:12
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firemonkeyballzu sure this wont hold?11:13
intelikeyno11:13
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intelikeybut i'll be ya half of nothing it wont.11:13
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intelikeyif you loose we'll go dubble or nothing on the nextone11:13
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firemonkeyballzdare I reboot?11:14
intelikeys/be/bet/11:14
intelikeys/nextone/next one/11:14
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bentob0xit seems that my login screen is in 1024x768, that once I enter my password, it brieffly goes onto 800x600 to finally get my resolution at 1280x1024, is this possible?11:15
intelikeyi must be getting tired again11:15
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intelikeybentob0x yep11:15
bentob0xor s/xt/x t/ intelikey11:15
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intelikeybentob0x both do the same thing.11:15
bentob0xsorry s/to/t o/11:16
bentob0xyes but there is less to type with mine ^^11:16
intelikeyon  that line   ^     and yeah.  i knew what you were driving at.11:16
bentob0xhehe11:16
intelikeynot if you typo it like you did  :)11:17
bentob0xok back to the resolution, you told me that it is possible, how can I get it to stick with 1280x1024 all the time?11:17
bentob0xhaha 'touch'11:17
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firecrotchWell, I can't find anything at all as far as a backup, but thanks for the help everyone11:18
intelikeybentob0x set it in the kmenu to the desired setting     that wont affect a momentary click when kde starts but the end result should be good.11:18
firecrotchMoral of story: don11:18
intelikeyyeah   don11:18
intelikey:)11:18
firecrotchdon't trust anyone else to make backups11:19
firecrotchStupid apostrophe being next to the Enter key11:19
intelikeyso it's  don's fault ?11:19
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intelikeyit's all don's fault.11:19
firecrotchyep!11:19
krautmoin11:20
intelikeykraut11:20
firecrotchOddly, I work with a guy named Don, who we always blame when stuff is messed up11:20
krautmoin intelikey11:20
firecrotchSo I do blame Don!11:20
intelikeyso it is all don's fault.11:20
Forgeyay I helped someone! ... lol11:20
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intelikeyForge good on ya mate11:21
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intelikeyway to be11:21
Forgefrom ##Linux channel... about oh well evince (I'd have preferred kpdf of course)11:21
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Forgethey needed to make a .doc out of a pdf that wasn't opening in openoffice11:21
firemonkeyballzsomeone owes me fake money11:21
firemonkeyballzlol11:22
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intelikeyfiremonkeyballz do you pay when you bet ?11:22
firemonkeyballzstill has the same time11:22
Forgeis firemonkeyballz anything like chocolatesaltyballz?11:22
firemonkeyballzhar11:23
JohnFluxForge: less salty11:23
Forgelol11:23
Forgeits ok I'm not black... but I believe your supposed to stick em in your mouth and suck 'em... at least according to South Park11:23
firemonkeyballzlol11:23
bentob0xis the login resolution written anywhere in a file?11:24
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intelikeybentob0x /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:25
Forgebentob0x, I'm not entirely certain but its related to your xorg.conf11:25
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firemonkeyballzumm they should disable the close button on the zeroconf service11:25
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firemonkeyballzdaymn have 499,000kb free11:27
firemonkeyballzno way im going to go over on my swp11:27
ForgeI'm enjoying interix lately, and I've added pkgsrc to my kubuntu :) opens up its potential some, also probably potential for problems too11:28
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firemonkeyballzdaymn have 499,000kb free11:30
firemonkeyballzno way im going to go over on my swp11:30
intelikeywhat's that supposed to mean ?11:31
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firemonkeyballzonly using about 300mb of ram11:31
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intelikeyi doubt that you are using that much.   you could be  but prolly not.11:33
bobbydhi11:33
geniiWasn't there some plan to separate out out the kdm with something like kdmenu or something? I have some vague recollection11:33
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bobbydhow can I configure the multimedia keys on my keyboard to trigger specific commands? The keys are working, I want to do something like "xmms --fwd" when I press the "next" key.11:34
intelikeyhttp://pastebin.ca/388868 firemonkeyballz11:35
intelikeybobbyd in kde khotkeys11:35
geniiintelikey Useful script btw11:36
intelikeybobbyd at the console level it's a little more indepth11:36
intelikeyty11:36
Forgeintelikey do you know if theres a way to allow kde to work like say MacOS with one mouse button?11:37
bobbydintelikey: I tried to run khotkeys, but it didn't seem to work11:37
Forge(and possibly a control click or something for rightclick?)11:37
bobbydintelikey: where will it be in the KDE menu?11:37
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intelikeyForge i think you could set that up in  kcontrol  but i have never tried11:37
Forgekewl just wondering thats all... someone asked in #KDE a while back11:38
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intelikeybobbyd system setting i think   ask genii i think he is running kde11:38
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intelikeygenii i called it "mem"  mem11:39
intelikeyMem usage: 21/249 MB (8%)11:39
ForgeAusthat was an old DOS command11:39
ForgeAusmem11:39
ForgeAusdoesn't work for me11:39
bobbydok, I'm in "system settings->keyboard & mouse" but I can't see how to do it in there...11:39
geniibobbyd Right now on a Windoze box so unfortunately cannot quickly look it up for you :(11:39
ForgeAus(in konsole anyway)11:39
bobbydgenii: ok, it's no problem, I'm probably just being stupid, it's not obvious to me :)11:40
intelikeyForgeAus the script i posted ?11:40
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ForgeAusscript?11:40
ForgeAusoh11:40
ForgeAusthats something else then11:40
intelikeyyep11:40
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intelikeyForgeAus http://pastebin.ca/38886811:40
geniiintelikey Well, my laptop has KDE and xfce on it but it is at work right now LOL so only 1 Dapepr server  no gui and other cli boxes here accessible11:40
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intelikeygenii ah.  i'll point him at Jucato   :)11:41
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geniiGood plan :)11:41
naught102anyone know of a good (pref. gui) way of merging two folders so that the most up-to-date files from each folder ar kept?11:43
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krabbypantshehe feisty is special11:44
bobbydintelikey: basically,I think KHotkeys does what I want, the problem is that I can't find it in the menu, and when I run it from a console I get this:"ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."11:44
intelikeynaught102 mc would be my choice.11:45
intelikeybobbyd just press   alt+f2   and type in  khotkeys11:45
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bobbydintelikey: nope, must be broken.11:45
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geniinaught102 Well, in non-gui the way would be to use the --update switch of cp command. conceivably you could make a launcher for this on the desktop to start in konsole or such.11:46
intelikeyhmmm   maybe.11:46
bobbydintelikey: I'm running feisty, maybe it's not working at the moment11:46
Ayabara_what is a good app for capturing stills from a webcam?11:46
intelikeyoh11:46
naught102genii: cool, might try that11:46
intelikeybobbyd you should be in  #ubuntu+1  where all the alpha/beta stuff is discussed11:46
bobbydintelikey: oops :)11:46
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naught102does it only copy files that need to be updated, or copy all files and overwrite only those that have a newer modification date/11:47
geniinaught102: A small script which would take the 2 paths in the argument would work well I think11:47
naught102sorry, I should just read the manual :)11:47
intelikeymc would still be my choice.11:48
geniinaught102: Well if you usedeg: cp --update /path1/* /path2/          then all in path1 that did not exist in path2 would be copied. and then all newer files from path1 would overwrite older files with same name in path211:48
naught102ok, great, that's just what I need.11:48
firemonkeyballzbrb11:49
naught102intelikey: I haven't tried midnight commander before, but I'll give it a go11:49
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naught102there's not an x version is there?11:49
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bobbydnaught102: konqueror has an mc mode...11:50
naught102cool11:50
feetyhi there, i need to know how to set up a wireless access point, but info on this is few and far between. is there a nice way to do this in kde? (that is to say, as command line free as possible. not in the mood for konsole as it stands)11:51
feetythanks in advance11:51
lipewhen i type ./configure --enable-kernel-module11:51
lipePlease specify the location of the kernel source with11:51
lipe        *** the '--with-kernel=SRCDIR' option11:51
bobbydnaught102: but I can't see it when i just looke, so i might have made that up :)11:51
naught102bobbyd: I seem to remember seeing it too...11:52
bobbydlipe: /usr/src/linux11:52
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bobbydlipe: you'll need to get the kernel source first thought :)11:52
lipebobbyd: so, i just type ./configure --enable-kernel-module /usr/src/linux ??11:52
lipebobbyd: how can i make it ??11:52
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firemonkeyballzk well got my ati back11:53
firemonkeyballzATI Mobility Beryl/XGL FGLRX in Edgy11:53
firemonkeyballzusing that guide11:53
firemonkeyballzseems to work for 6.0611:53
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bobbydlipe: I have no idea what you're doing, but I'd expect it would be something like: ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux --enable-kernel-module11:54
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MalixHi, having a bit of a problem: my adept told me that I could update to kubuntu 7.04 with kubuntu distribution update tool which should launch automatically and close down adept. nothing is happening tho...  any ideas?11:54
geniilipe at commandline: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r` && sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`11:54
Malixor should I just wait until the cd comes out?11:54
lipebobbyd: thx u very muhc11:55
bobbydgenii: thanks :)11:55
bobbydlipe: thank genii too :)11:55
firemonkeyballzwee11:55
lipegenii: thx u very much11:55
firemonkeyballzworkd11:55
bobbydfiremonkeyballz: beryl with fglrx?11:55
firemonkeyballzyes11:55
geniilipe then after: ./configure --enable-kernel-module --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux11:55
bobbydfiremonkeyballz: i might need to do that if I can't get the graphics card in this laptop changed to nvidia11:55
bobbydfiremonkeyballz: is it a total pita?11:56
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firemonkeyballzdisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:56
firemonkeyballzOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.11:56
firemonkeyballzOpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS 200M Series Generic11:56
firemonkeyballzOpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)11:56
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bobbydthere's a flood coming!11:56
geniiLOL11:56
Alarmhello. i just got a notice from adept updater that kubuntu 7.04 is available and if i wish to update. i joined the website but there is nothing written about that release, what is that all about ?11:57
lipebobbyd: but, when i go to /usr/src i can't see the "linux" dir ...11:57
ForgeAusRadeon 9600 AIO here :)11:57
ForgeAusTVIn TVOut11:57
lipebobbyd: nvm :p11:57
bobbydlipe: did you do genii's command?11:57
lipegenii: thx u very much, i'll try to do it ...11:57
ForgeAusits only an AGP card tho no PCIE yet11:57
firemonkeyballzwhats that command to run the gears?11:57
ForgeAusum I forgot11:57
ForgeAusflgears or something I guess11:57
xBillglxgears11:57
ForgeAusthats it glxgears11:57
ForgeAuswow it works! nicely too11:58
firemonkeyballzcrap works faster than last config11:58
geniilipe Well you may need to put the result of uname -r instead of "linux" for the exact linux kernel version you have.11:58
bobbydAlarm: That's feisty, and as far as I know it's still in testing...11:58
ForgeAustho thmooooooth :)11:58
Alarmthen why is it allready available for download ?11:58
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Alarmas an update if its not a stable release11:58
firemonkeyballzto make us victems11:58
firemonkeyballzlol11:58
firemonkeyballzso they can gain11:59
krabbypantsyep11:59
bobbydAlarm: I have no idea11:59
bobbydAlarm: seems like a bug :)11:59
firemonkeyballzdude11:59
firemonkeyballzif you see nos11:59
firemonkeyballztel him to do this one11:59
xBilli allready use feisty, tho it's testing still ;-)11:59
geniiHas feisty even reached RC1 status yet??11:59
firemonkeyballzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291464&highlight=ati11:59
Alarmok12:00
Jucatogenii: no. not even beta yet, iirc12:00
Malixso whats with the update thingy in adept then? it downloads some update tool but nothing happens after that?12:00
geniiI'm leery of installing something thats not quite yet even a release candidate  (on a machine not for testing)12:00
JucatoAlarm: have you checked your sources.list for any feisty repositories? are you sure it's telling you that it will upgrade to Feisty?12:00
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lipegenii: ok, thx u very much ! :) GOD BLESS U12:01
Alarmyes12:01
geniilipe LOL You're welcome12:01
JucatoAlarm: can you pastebin your sources.list please?12:01
Alarmi did a normal upgrade. and then a window showed up telling me that there is a new kubuntu version available feisty 7.0412:01
Alarmhold on ot find a paste site12:02
Jucato!pastebin | Alarm12:02
ubotuAlarm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:02
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ForgeAusif Only I could integrate pkgtool and pkgsrc into Adept lol :)12:02
ForgeAusthen I'd have a nearon omnilinux :) many package formats... well rpmless tho12:02
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AlarmJucato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9613/12:03
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MalixJucato: I also got the adept notice about updating to feisty, and surely I don't have any feisty repos in my sources.list12:03
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teufelcould some one tell me how to iinstall windows xp after kubuntu12:03
Jucatook hold on12:03
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ForgeAustuefel AFTER?12:04
teufelyeah12:04
ForgeAusbest to do it the other way around but if you HAVE to12:04
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teufelthe grub messed my mbr up or something12:04
teufeli know12:04
ForgeAusyou need to partition space and then reinstall grub once XP's installed12:04
teufeli had xp installed12:04
Jucato!grub | teufel12:04
ubotuteufel: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:04
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JucatoMalix: could you also pastebin your sources.list? so I could compare with Alarm's?12:05
Malixsure12:05
teufelok check it out i have the grub working i can get into kubuntu just fine12:05
teufelbut it messed my xp load up12:05
Alarmsomeone else has the same problem ? :)12:05
ForgeAusit shouldn't ahve12:05
Alarmi dont have either any feisty repos12:05
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JucatoAlarm: Malix seems to have the same problem12:05
teufelnow i cant reinstall12:05
ForgeAusgrub detects XP if you set it up right12:05
teufelit detects it12:05
Alarmi havent changed anything the last 1 month actually12:05
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Jucatoteufel: what do you mean it messed XP up?12:05
ForgeAusyou might need to fixmbr and resetup grub the RIGHT way12:05
JucatoAlarm: let's just wait for Malix's sources.list12:05
Alarmokie12:06
teufeli tried fixmbr12:06
JucatoI'm just waiting for his...12:06
MalixJucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9614/12:06
firemonkeyballznearly done with the whole config12:06
ForgeAusfixboot?12:06
teufelyup12:06
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teufelfixboot too12:06
ForgeAusdid that fix your XP?12:06
JucatoAlarm, Malix: ah I see... :D12:06
teufelwindows is on the master kubuntu is on the slave12:06
haffiHi, can anyone help me with setting DXS support in ALSA for my VT8233 sound card? My sound works, but it is scratchy12:06
JucatoAlarm, Malix: this is the source of all your problems: deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse12:07
Alarmwhat is it ? :)12:07
ForgeAusIDE drives.. so its hda and hdb12:07
teufelyea12:07
Skullerhaffi: scratchy?12:07
Alarmwhat about it ?12:07
Jucatodid you guys get your sources.list from source-o-matic?12:07
ForgeAusaccording to linux12:07
ForgeAus(if its sata its sda and sdb12:07
Alarmsome of the entries yes12:07
firemonkeyballzumm how do I fix the sensitivity on my touch pad?12:07
MalixJucato: nope, collected those urls from net and added by hand, why?12:07
Alarmi cant remember about this one12:07
teufelxp is on hda12:07
haffiSkuller: Yes, there is some disturbance in the sound12:07
teufelhda112:07
JucatoAlarm, Malix: edgy-proposed contains stuff you shouldn't really be installing in the first place. think "very beta"12:08
ForgeAusdoes XP boot?12:08
firemonkeyballzlike  you would in synaptics tools?12:08
teufelnope12:08
Skullerhaffi: is it more noticeable on loud volume?12:08
teufeli need to reinstall it12:08
MalixJucato: whoopsie =D12:08
ForgeAusthen you need to fix your XP boot with XP recovery console12:08
JucatoAlarm, Malix: currently, edgy-proposed contains the new Upgrade Tool that's being tested12:08
Alarmso, better to remove that one ?12:08
teufeli tried12:08
Malixk, so removing it now =)12:08
ForgeAusor even a recovery install into the XP you have12:08
JucatoAlarm, Malix: yes please remove/disable edgy-proposed12:08
ForgeAusthen you have to install grub without messing up your ntldr/mbr12:08
Jucatothen sudo apt-get update again12:08
teufelit hangs at dmi12:08
ForgeAususing the site jucato sent you to earlier12:08
teufelwhatever it says12:08
ForgeAuswhats dmi?12:09
haffiSkuller: no, the disturbance is always on when there's a sound playing, and setting the volume in kubuntu doesn't change it12:09
Skullerhaffi: type in alsamixer and reduce the level of PCM....thas all i know and can help12:09
geniilipe Just to clarify the command after all the sources install would be: ./configure --enable-kernel-module --with-kernel=/usr/src/kernel-source-`uname -r`         if just /usr/src/linux fails12:09
teufeli for get what it says but after the cdrom boot and then when it gets to the harddrive boot it hangs12:09
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Alarmok, thank you a lot Jucato12:09
haffiOk, I'll try that12:09
teufelforget12:09
Skullerhaffi: reduce the PCM level to midway....in the green region.....12:10
teufeli just need to know if there is a way to reinstall xp12:10
teufelafter kubuntu12:10
geniibah /usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`                     (I need coffee)12:10
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Alarmdamn and i got happy that the new release is out:)12:11
ForgeAusthere is but it will mess up grub12:11
teufelthats cool12:11
teufeli can fix12:11
ForgeAusintsalling XP always messed up grub12:11
krabbypantsteufel:if you install xp after kubuntu, you can use the xp boot loader12:11
ForgeAusyeah just do an XP install like you normally would12:11
teufelhow do i go about this12:11
firemonkeyballzbrb12:12
teufeli did that12:12
MalixJucato: I disabled edgy-proposed repos, but it is still offering me the update tool12:12
ForgeAusjust put your xp disk in and run through the setup procedure12:12
teufeli did but it didnt fix the mbr12:12
JucatoMalix: did you run update after changing your sources.list like I said?12:12
ForgeAus(I suggest if recovery console's fixmbr and fixboot didn't help to use the REPAIR install...)12:12
Malixnot from commandline, but from adept, does that make a difference?12:12
ForgeAusrepair install happens AFTER recovery console (its the second R not the first one)12:12
JucatoMalix: not really. Fetch Updates = sudo apt-get update12:12
teufelyea i go that12:12
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teufeli ran fixmbr12:13
ForgeAuseither that or you loose data and reformat the NTFS partition12:13
JucatoMalix: hm.. make sure the edgy-proposed lines are really gone12:13
teufelthen fixboot12:13
teufelthen bootcfg12:13
firemonkeyballzwheee12:13
firemonkeyballzworked12:13
MalixJucato: just a sec12:13
ForgeAusyeah you USED recovery console tried fixmbr12:13
ForgeAusdid you try fixboot too?12:13
firemonkeyballzdont have to modify anything12:13
ForgeAusahh ok so they didn't help12:13
teufelyeah12:13
ForgeAusxp still broken?12:13
teufelright12:13
ForgeAusso then do REPAIR install thats next option12:13
firemonkeyballzdone with ati baryl12:13
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MalixJucato: BUH, my bad, had several lines with edgy proposed... >_<12:13
ForgeAusthats not in recovery console12:13
teufeli have like 100 gig of movies i dont want to lose12:13
JucatoMalix: heh :)12:13
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ForgeAusthen you need to get a tool to read your ntfs drive if its formatted as ntfs (if its fat just mount it in Linux, heck even if its NTFS just mount it in linux and copy))12:14
teufelalot of edited moves12:14
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ForgeAusyou don't need to write to ti to do that12:14
_4strOyop yop12:14
ForgeAusor burn them to CD from there?12:14
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teufeldamn 100 gig would take forever12:14
ForgeAusif they're important to you and you want to keep them thats about the only way...12:14
ForgeAusyeah 100gig would talke a few erm DVD's?12:15
krabbypantsteufel: linux in a nutshell has a good chaper on the windows dual boot12:15
teufelif i could just manually edit the grub out of the master drive12:15
firemonkeyballzthat fixed a slow bottle neck12:15
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firemonkeyballzheh12:15
teufeli accidentally put it there12:15
teufeland now i cant get it out12:15
ForgeAusteufel that shouldn't be a problem12:15
MalixJucato: uh.. nope, they're all disabled now, but the update thingy still pop's up12:15
ForgeAusgrub shouldn't mess up WindowsXP12:16
JucatoMalix: pastebin sources.list again please? :)12:16
teufelwell i tried to reinstall it and it says starting up but goes no further12:16
ForgeAusat least they CAN coexist12:16
Malixwilldo12:16
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ForgeAusteufel try repair install12:17
teufelok12:17
teufelim out for now thanks for the help12:17
ForgeAusthat way you at least keep the Filesystem12:17
teufeltrue12:17
ForgeAus(you may or may not be able to access stuff in mydocuments)12:17
teufelbut ill shall return12:17
teufelcya12:17
ForgeAus(if you have the username/password it might be ok)12:17
blue|palmI tried to install a package (dcraw) but it hit an error where it couldnt overwrite a directory from another package... now i cant install anything because each time i try to use apt-get it tries to install dcraw which fails...12:18
blue|palmhow can i remove dcraw from installing all the time12:18
MalixJucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9616/12:18
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ForgeAusI hope teu he didn't partition over anything12:18
ForgeAusthat way he's never going to get anything back12:19
JucatoMalix: still notifying you after clicking on Fetch Updates or doing sudo apt-get update?12:19
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Malixyup12:19
Jucatoreally strange...12:20
Malixwell, not after apt-get update, but after fetching updates in adept12:20
Skullerhaffi_: any luck?12:20
Malixcould it affect that I actually once accepted the 'update'?12:20
Alarmi want to spit my linux into 2 partition for more performance (2 partitions , 1 on a different disk) , so that some things run from the 1 disk , and the other 1 from the second. a system works much faster while doing that once it uses the whole bus. which directory should i put on the second disk ?12:20
ForgeAuskpackage didn't pick up on my pkgsrc install :(12:20
JucatoMalix: er... how did you accept it?12:20
JucatoMalix: you have soooo many repos. some of the duplicates, btw12:21
MalixJucato: 'click next to whatever'... a small download window flashed on the corner and ... well, it did nothing visible after that atleast12:21
JucatoMalix: ah.. hm...12:21
MalixJucato: yea, I'm a aware, I _should_ check for those...12:22
JucatoMalix: I don't know how much that would have affected it... but yeah, your "accepting" the update might have something to do with it... but not really sure12:22
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haffi_Skuller: no luck, I'm afraid12:22
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haffi_I had this same problem on Gentoo12:22
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Skullerhaffi_: oh....thas sad...sorry i cant help u anymore....12:23
Skullerhaffi_: u did reduce the PCM level dint u?12:23
haffi_yes12:23
haffi_this is just a crappy soundcard12:23
firemonkeyballzhttp://pastebin.ca/38890512:23
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haffi_and the workaround on gentoo doesn't work on kubuntu12:24
MalixJucato: well, I think I can live with it, after all, feisty should come out next month, so actually REALLY updating should get rid of it?12:24
haffi_seems like alsa is a bit different12:24
ForgeAusomg I just started Trillian under Linux!12:24
ForgeAusahh the wonders of wine12:24
naught102does anyone know a way of exporting a list of packages installed via apt-get (or a frontend), and the re-importing them?12:24
JucatoMalix: yes it should. it's just like the Adept Updater12:24
ForgeAuswell almost anyway12:24
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ForgeAusit started up then died lol12:24
naught102for example to re-install all the programs you had installed after a cd-upgrade?12:24
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Jucatonaught102: dpkg --get-selections12:24
Jucatonaught102: er.. upgrade? that might not work12:25
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krabbypantsanyone get mysql server actually working with mythtv in  kubuntu?12:25
Jucatothe package list will be version-dependent afaik12:25
krabbypantsi tried alot of things never got it working, anyone run a myth box here?12:26
naught102Jucato: ofcourse, but just a reference list would be good, that's a good start12:26
blue|palmkrabbypants: i did12:26
Jucatonaught102: then dpkg --get-selections will most probably do12:26
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krabbypantswhat vertion of kubuntu you running blue|palm12:26
blue|palmCan someone please tell me how to fix my apt.... it broke because each time i install anything using apt-get it tries to install dcraw which tries to overwrite another package and fails... thus apt-get fails all the time.12:27
geniiyes get-selections  then set-selections I think12:27
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naught102Jucato: there wouldn't be a way of doing dpkg --get-selections only for "top of the dependency chain" packages, would there?12:27
firemonkeyballzhttp://pastebin.ca/38890512:27
blue|palmkrabbypants: edgy12:27
Jucatonaught102: hm.. not that I know of12:28
naught102that would be cool.12:28
krabbypantsblue|palm: wow i could not get mine working because i have no idea how mysql works12:28
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blue|palmkrabbypants: look for a guide its really easy12:28
blue|palmkrabbypants: i mean really really easy12:28
blue|palmthe mythtv guide should work12:28
firemonkeyballzhow do I configure backup system12:29
blue|palmgo to the forums12:29
naught102imagine. windows: re-install, find all those CDs, download spots, re-install each package. linux: re-install, re-load packages list, upgrade. sweet12:29
firemonkeyballzspecifically what to backup12:29
blue|palmCan someone tell me how to manually deselect a package?12:29
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krabbypantsblue|palm: i tryed all sorts of guides but i always could not log in to mysql and always got the same sock error when trying to connect12:29
naught102man dpkg/12:29
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Skuller!ubotu >ubotu12:30
Skullerlol12:30
bumzohi ple12:30
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firemonkeyballzuhh no try this12:30
bumzowho knows  how to make a sda1 usb drive accessible ... not read only?12:30
firemonkeyballz!ubotu|ubotu12:31
ubotuubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:31
krabbypantsblue|palm: im baffled on how it could be so hard for me to set up mysql12:31
Skullerlol yea12:31
bumzolol skuller12:31
Skullerwish it could loop somehow12:31
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firemonkeyballzwhat directories should I backup12:31
bumzoI need help making my ntfs drive READBLE12:31
Skullerbumzo: is ur drive partitioned in ntfs?12:31
lipegenii: i just installed linux-source and in /usr/src/ there is a file linux-source-2... .tar.bz2   is it right ?12:31
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bumzoits an extrernal 80 gb usb hard drive12:32
Skulleris it ntfs formatted?12:32
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geniilipe That sounds about right, yes12:32
bumzoyes ...and has loads of music12:32
lipegenii: so i just type ./configure ... to this file !?12:32
Skullerwell its better to format them in FAT3212:33
lipegenii: i need to extract this file !?12:33
Skullerbumzo: well its better to format them in FAT3212:33
geniilipe 1 minute, I think you may need to uncompress it but I forget if that is so right now12:33
bumzobut i stand the cahnce of loosing ALL my music12:33
geniilipe Is free space on the hard drive an issue?12:33
Skullerbumzo: copy it somewhere12:33
lipegenii: yes12:34
bumzoi dont have ''somewhere'' to copy 80GB worth of 6 yrs collection of music12:34
Skulleri dont know if there is a way to convert a partition type into another without losing the data12:34
geniilipe How much space is free?12:34
lipegenii: i got 17 GB i think, so i got too much free space ..12:35
krabbypantsbumzo: open 40 gmail accounts 2 gb+ of storage each :)12:35
geniilipe Ah, that is fine. I was considering if uncompressing the file would cause the drive to be full. But it will not.12:35
Skullerbumzo: well u can risk enabling ntfs write features in kubuntu....like FUSE12:35
Skullerlol12:35
lipegenii: hehehe ok :)12:35
lipegenii: i just uncompressed the file and created a dir ...12:36
Skuller!fuse12:36
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:36
bumzolol12:36
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lipegenii: what should i do now ?!12:36
bumzook .. how do i use fuse to enable it?12:36
Skuller!fuse | bumzo12:36
ubotubumzo: please see above12:36
geniilipe so: sudo tar -xjvf /usr/src/<exact filename here> -C /usr/src/             <-- this will uncompress the file to the same directory12:36
MalixJucato: just a thought, any ideas of the package name or such for the update wiz? if it could be removed some way?12:36
lipegenii: ok lemme do it12:37
JucatoMalix: not really sure. have you tried quiting Adept Manager after you've finished Fetch Updates?12:37
Skuller!ntfs12:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:37
Skuller!ntfs-3g | bumzo12:37
ubotubumzo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:37
Skuller!fuse | bumzo12:38
ubotubumzo: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:38
MalixJucato: several times now12:38
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bumzohow abt ntfs-3g12:38
JucatoMalix: really sorry, a bit clueless12:38
bumzo!ntfs-3g12:38
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:38
geniilipe Then after (in the directory which contains the source code you originally were trying to compile) the command: ./configure --enable-kernel-module --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`      and then after most like you can do the make command or make install     or so on12:38
MalixJucato: bummer, well, my bad -> have to live with it x)12:39
geniilipe Sorry /usr/src/kernel-source-`uname -r`      (I am always getting the two confused in these switches)12:40
Skullerbumzo: if ur need for ntsf riting is strong...then go for it12:40
Skullerntfs*12:40
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bumzooh it is12:40
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lipegenii: done ... and now ?12:41
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lipegenii: hehehe ok12:41
geniilipe Are there other files in /usr/src/   directory?12:41
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lipegenii: lemme try it12:41
lipegenii: yes12:41
bumzois kubuntu drapper or edgy???12:42
lipegenii: rpm and fuse one12:42
geniieg: some file beginning with "kernel" something12:42
dystopianrayis it possible to get a list of packages that I have installed, that weren't installed by default or automatically?12:42
Skullerbumzo: dapper and edgy are versions of kubuntu12:42
Skuller6.06 and 6.10 respectively12:42
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geniilipe Please report result of: ls -l /usr/src/linux*/kernel12:43
Skullerbumzo: you shud noe wich one u ave installed urself12:43
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francescoHi12:43
sanityxhi12:43
lipegenii: it is veeery big ...12:44
geniilipe OK don't put it here then LOL12:44
lipegenii: there are a lot of .c files12:44
lipegenii: hehehehe12:44
geniilipe Good.12:44
geniithis is the path to put for the switch --with-kernel=12:44
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francescoI'm a new Linux User! There is someone that can help me in MB driver installation?12:45
lipegenii: so i just type ./configure --enable-kernel-module -with-kernel=/usr/src/linux[tab] /kernel ?? or i don't put kernel in this command ?12:45
francescoI need it to use audio12:45
geniisomething like /usr/src/linux-source-2.xx.x-x/kernel    where exact numbers are for your box12:45
lipegenii: ok !! lemme try it ... 1 min please :) thx u veeery much !! :)12:46
geniilipe I'll be here12:46
Skullerbumzo: cat /etc/issue         to find out which  version12:46
francesco...and sorry for my bad english12:46
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Skullerfrancesco: what do you mean by u want to use audio?12:48
geniifrancesco At bottom right of screen do you have speaker icon?12:49
lipegenii: it says that cannot determine the kernel version .... and to prepare the kernel before running that script ...12:49
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francescoSkuller: Now the audio is off...even tough there is the icon in the corner12:49
geniilipe That is very odd. What program are you trying to compile?12:50
francescoMy MB is Gygabyte LGA 77512:50
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Skullerfrancesco: sorry no idea...refer to genii please...12:50
francescoI had download the linux driver...12:50
lipegenii: i need to write on a ntfs partition, so i need to fix a problem with the fuse ... so i'm trying to compile the fuse one to fix the problem ...12:50
geniifrancesco Right-click on the speaker icon. Open the mixer. Unmute any PCM devices and also maybe to put up the volume for the PCM devices12:50
sanityxlipe you could just install ntfs-3g12:50
Skullerfrancesco: that is your CPU socket....12:51
lipesanityx: but it says that fuse isn't write, i got an old fuse version ... and need to install a newer12:51
sanityxoo12:51
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francescogenii: I've do it...but anything change12:51
bill___im trying to install themes, but i dont have permission to write to the kthememanager folder, anyway to set it up so i dont have to log in as root to change the permission?12:51
geniilipe Which ubuntu version do you have? eg: dapper edgy feisty12:52
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lipegenii: kubuntu 6.06 dapper12:52
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francescoSkuller you're right! Gigabyte 945GZ12:52
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shishirahi12:53
Skullerfrancesco: 945 is ur chipset btw....well...i dont know about audio...sorry...12:53
Skullerhi12:53
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Skullerbumzo: any luck?12:53
geniilipe I have found a site which may help you http://lunapark6.com/?p=171012:53
lipegenii: thx u very much, i'll read it ! GOD bless u very much !12:54
geniilipe Best luck. If no success please report back, I will be here still.12:54
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bill___possible to change dir permissions without logging in as root?12:54
francescogenii....can you help me?12:54
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lipegenii: ok, thx u12:55
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rambohello12:56
geniifrancesco Well, the common issue with no sound is the muted PCM device in the mixer. If the icon for the speaker has no red line through it, the system considers the soundcard is working properly. In this case it is usually some device in the mixer which needs attention. eg: PCM devices, line-in or so on12:56
geniifrancesco Often the default sources for sound in may be muted12:57
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francescogenii: at this link (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2304&ProductName=GA-8I945GZME-RH) there are Linux driver...maybe there is a common bug!12:57
geniifrancesco reading, away briefly12:58
francescogenii: thanks12:58
ForgeAusum kubuntu's telling me theres a new version of kubuntu available is this a dist-upgrade?12:58
ramboum, i'm really new to linux and i have a problem12:58
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Skullerrambo: ask away the problem and not that u have a problem12:59
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ramboi have a SB live and it plays stereo stuff good, but when it comes to movies with more chanels, it says that device is busy. this only appears when more channels are needed01:00
panathospls... wich driver best match Nvidia FX 5200? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?01:00
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Skullerpanathos: nvidia-glx01:00
Skullerlook in the lagacy list to confirm that ur card isnt mentioned there01:00
bumzoskuller: i put that command in terminal?01:00
panathosbut it's instable, on my amd64 :-(01:01
Skullerbumzo: cat /etc/issue01:01
Skulleryes01:01
bumzoUbuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l ... is that dapper or edgy?01:01
Skullerdapper01:01
ramboand another thing; when i start "adept manager" it says that some other process is using it and that i can't change anything01:02
Skuller!ntfs-3g | bumzo01:02
ubotubumzo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:02
Skuller!adeptfix | rambo01:02
uboturambo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:02
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geniifrancesco I am finding many complaints on this souncard now but not yet some solution01:03
Skullerrambo: make sure your not running any other package software01:03
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francescogenii!! I'm I stupid!01:04
Skullerlol01:04
francescoI used an USB sound card....and it' doesn't work!01:04
geniifrancesco Your main volume was at minumum?01:05
ramboubotu: i did that and it wrote at the beggining "01:05
rambodpkg: error processing libdvdread3 (--configure):01:05
rambo Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should01:05
rambo reinstall it before attempting configuration.01:05
francescoNow I've set the MB AUDIO01:05
geniiAhhh01:05
francescoand it' seems goos01:05
francescogood01:05
geniifrancesco Good to know you have solved it then :)01:05
francescoThanks01:05
Skuller!ubotu | ubotu01:05
ubotuubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:06
Skuller!ubotu | rambo01:06
uboturambo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:06
francescoI'll go to have a lunch....01:06
francescoI'll back later...with other problems!!01:06
francescobye bye01:06
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Skullerrambo: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a01:06
Skullerfrancesco: laterz01:07
ramboPackage is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should01:07
rambo reinstall it before attempting configuration.01:07
ramboand now adept doesn't even start01:07
Skullertry synaptic01:07
geniiouch01:07
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Skullerno idea whas happ01:08
rambohmm, brb01:08
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ForgeAuswhere do I find the kubuntu upgrade tool?01:11
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ForgeAus!upgrade01:12
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:12
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stamen_l01:13
miltosit's impossible to mount an iso image...it drives me grazy....the original *.bin image was converted under windowsxp with magiciso....any ideas?01:14
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ForgeAusdoesn't matter what the original image was created in01:16
ForgeAus.iso's mount01:16
geniimiltos Hm. does:   lsmod |grep loop    produce some result?01:16
miltos<genii>just a minute...01:16
geniimiltos if NOT then do:  sudo modprobe loop      then try to mount the image as you were doing before01:17
ForgeAusget kiso if your haveing too much trouble01:17
ForgeAusbut iso's should mount01:17
ForgeAususe iso:/ in konqueror if you need to!01:17
miltos<genii>loop                   17672  12: that's the result01:18
geniimiltos OK, then it is not the problem01:18
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ForgeAusgenii do you know what kubuntu upgrade tool is? and if so how to run it?01:20
miltosthat's the command I use: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/miltos/Suse01.iso  o /media/iso"...and I can't see the CD on the desktop...01:20
rambohi, i'm back01:20
geniimiltos I think there may be some conflicting options in fstab. I am not sure that all the options you have in there for that drive can coexist happily01:20
ramboadept now works, but surrond still doesn't01:20
ForgeAussurround? as in surround sound?01:21
ramboyep01:21
miltos<genii> how to check?01:21
ForgeAusdoes kmix handle that ?01:21
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ramboi'm on alsa01:21
geniimiltos What is the line for that drive again? (sdb1 I think it was) in the fstab01:21
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miltos<genii>tell me how to check...01:22
rambowhat's that command for speaker check?01:22
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ForgeAuswheres jucato when I need him! lol01:23
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nosrednaekimForgeAus: whats your problem?01:23
ForgeAusnos wheres the kubuntu upgrade tool install into / how do I run it?01:24
ForgeAusi can't find it in the k menu anyhwere01:24
nosrednaekimadept?01:24
ForgeAusadept installed it and told me to quit adept and run the kubuntu upgrade tool to update to feisty01:24
geniimiltos Please pastebin the contents of your file /etc/fstab    then please add to the bottom of the paste which directory holds your iso file, which directory it should be mounted under01:24
ForgeAusbut I don't know where/what's the kubuntu upgrade tool01:24
nosrednaekim!update-manager01:25
ubotuupdate-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB01:25
nosrednaekim!upgrade-manager01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upgrade-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
zevstest01:25
ForgeAus!kubuntu upgrade tool01:25
c0nv1ctForgeAus: i've never 'upgraded' to fiesty, i've only used the actual ISO, so i dunno01:26
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miltos<genii> here it is...01:26
miltos# /etc/fstab: static file system information.01:26
miltos#01:26
miltos# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>01:26
miltosproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       001:26
miltos# /dev/sda601:26
miltosUUID=90effdd6-c42a-4ac9-a4ef-8ad2b76969f1 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       101:26
miltos# /dev/hda101:26
geniiAAAAAHHh01:26
miltosUUID=3C9C57F49C57A6E4 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:26
miltos# /dev/hda201:26
miltosUUID=7A54F82954F7E5B3 /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:26
genii!pastebin | miltos01:26
ubotumiltos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:26
miltos# /dev/sda101:26
miltosUUID=1EDC7D0BDC7CDF09 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:26
miltos# /dev/sda501:26
miltosUUID=7c7cf815-2376-400f-adec-e32ea15ca344 none            swap    sw              0       001:26
miltos/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:26
geniiDamn01:26
doomnxhello guys again01:26
c0nv1ctno ops with flood protection in here? damn01:27
doomnxmiltos ellhnas ki esu e? :P01:27
miltos<doomnx> exo plextei asxima...01:27
geniiI keep forgetting knowing about the pastebin website is not a given LOL01:27
nosrednaekimForgeAus what do you want fiesty for01:27
c0nv1ctyeah, feisty isnt exactly stable01:28
ForgeAusbecause adept says its time to updaate01:28
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ForgeAusnot stable? really?01:28
ForgeAuswhats wrong with it?01:28
geniimiltos There is a website for pasting(not into the channel)http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   then after you paste it there, give only the URL it gives you after so ppl from here can go read01:28
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c0nv1ctits not done yet ForgeAus01:28
c0nv1ctits still in testing01:28
miltos<genii>ok01:28
doomnxguys i was trying to install nvidia drivers for kubuntu and it said it needed the following dependencies: libgtk2.0-bin, libgtk2.0-common and linux-image-2.6.17-11-386. I just downloaded these files, do u think they will need some depencies too?01:29
miltos<genii> the URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9620/01:30
nosrednaekimForgeAus:there is a difference between security updates and upgrading to fiesty01:30
ForgeAusI know that01:30
ForgeAusits a distro upgrade01:30
c0nv1ctdoomnx: i'd update the kernel using your package manager01:30
doomnxi have no internet connection at home :(01:30
doomnxso i download the files manually from this net cafe01:30
c0nv1ctdoomnx: ouch, then i'm not sure, upgrading the kernel probably will need more packages01:31
geniimiltos OK, reading. Back shortly01:31
doomnxi only installed kubuntu 6.10, nothing else01:31
nosrednaekimdoomx manually? do you know aout the download scripts?01:31
miltos<genii> what did you discover?01:31
c0nv1ctnosrednaekim: he doesnt have internet01:31
doomnxno, i am a newbie here... i am willing to learn though01:32
nosrednaekimI know... but a scriptis useful for when you do have interenet01:32
geniimiltos Please, what is the full directory and name of the iso file, and what directory you wish to mount it to01:32
bumzoi need help here01:32
doomnxi've been trying for a week to install those drivers01:32
doomnxand i'm really close now!01:32
nosrednaekimdoomx, how are you on the internet ow? are you on your ubntu computer?01:33
bumzoi cant get right access to my external hard drive01:33
bumzowhen i try i get the error message ''Could not change permissions for /media/sda1.''01:33
bumzoanyone?01:33
doomnxoh, i have a problem with kubuntu though... a problem that doesn't appear on ubuntu: when i shutdown the PC it freezes or it appears an out of range message01:33
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doomnxi am at a netcafe using windows atm01:33
nosrednaekimbumzo: was it automounted?01:34
miltos<genii>that's the command i sudo: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/miltos/Suse01.iso  o /media/iso"01:34
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nosrednaekimdoomnx: oh ok..then NM01:34
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doomnxok...01:34
geniimiltos OK that should be enough info. 1 minute and I will make an entry for your fstab01:34
doomnxif anyone knew why it doesn't shutdown properly...01:34
bumzoyes nosrednaekim01:35
doomnxi like KDE, i don't want to go to GNOME...01:35
bumzowhn i plug it in ... picks automatically01:35
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nosrednaekimdoomnx: I have seen that problem b4 I dpon't know what it is... something about ACPI I think01:35
nosrednaekimbumzo: so you select "open in new window" and it doesn't let you write to it?01:36
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oemsalve01:36
vyomanWhat's the story with the adept prompting to upgrade to 7.04 - does it work?01:36
bumzoyes ...i cant write to in nosrednaekim:01:36
doomnxdo u know any workaround nosrednaekim?01:37
nosrednaekimbumzo: then whats the problem?01:37
nosrednaekimdoomnx: unfortunetly, no01:37
bumzotahts what am asking ... i cant write to the external HDD01:37
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doomnxwell, anyway01:38
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bumzoi want to add files to it ... but tells me i have to write permission01:38
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doomnxthanks a lot for ur time guys01:38
doomnxsee u later on01:38
miltosbye doomnx01:38
geniimiltos: Please at commandline: sudo echo "/home/miltos/Suse01.iso /media/iso udf,iso9660 ro,loop,user,auto 0 0" >> /etc/fstab01:39
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geniimiltos Then after, attempt to mount the iso by: mount /media/iso01:39
nosrednaekimbumzo: are you running kubuntu?01:39
geniiplease note, not sudo mount /media/iso01:40
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bumzoyes kubuntu (drapper)01:40
nosrednaekimok...then run this "kdesu konquror"01:41
nosrednaekimsorry..01:41
nosrednaekim "kdesu konqueror"01:41
bumzothats the browser01:42
nosrednaekimthat'll run it with root permissions, and fix the write problems01:42
bumzoyes..01:42
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miltos<genii> the command returned 'permission denied'01:42
nosrednaekimbumzo: its also the file browser01:42
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geniimiltos which command... the command to echo the line to fstab or the mount command ?01:43
bumzonosrednaekim: yes it is ... so waht command do i run01:43
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nosrednaekim"kdesu konqueror"01:43
rockzis there a way to change kde menu without change gnome menu ?01:43
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miltosthis command: "sudo echo "/home/miltos/Suse01.iso /media/iso udf,iso9660 ro,loop,user,auto 0 0" >> /etc/fstab"01:43
bumzoon terminal?01:43
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nosrednaekimbumzo,yes01:43
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nosrednaekimrockz, yes,kmenuedit01:44
nosrednaekim!kmenuedit01:44
ubotukmenuedit: menu editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 996 kB01:44
nosrednaekim!botsnack01:44
ubotuYum!01:44
vyomanwhat is the: distribution upgrade tool, nothing happens when following the adept upgrade wizard01:44
bumzoits opened the konquorer01:44
rockznosrednaekim: if I edit with kmenuedit, the gnome menu wont be modiffied?01:44
nosrednaekimok...not navigate to /media/sda101:44
geniimiltos That is very odd. Are you able to run other commands with sudo?01:45
nosrednaekimrockz, I don't think so01:45
miltosyes...01:45
rockznosrednaekim: i want modify my kde without modify my gnome01:45
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nosrednaekimrockz: I don't think kmenuedit will change the gnome menu01:46
nosrednaekimbumzo: did you go to /media/sda101:46
geniimiltos OK, in this case, put: kdesu Kate                 then open the file /etc/fstab and add the line given above without the quotation marks01:46
miltosok01:47
geniimiltos eg: /home/miltos/Suse01.iso /media/iso udf,iso9660 ro,loop,user,auto 0 0                            <--EXACTLY01:47
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geniiYou could even cut/paste from here to make sure it is proper01:47
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miltos<genii> i think you 've got right ...even kdesu doensn't permit to save the file!!!!01:50
miltosshall i reboot...and come back?01:51
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lipehow can i unzip a .cab file from linux ??? please ...01:51
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geniimiltos There seems to be some other underlying issue then in your system, which is that the default user (miltos I think) is not in /etc/sudoers file or something similar01:51
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geniimiltos A reboot will not help in this case01:52
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miltos<genii> how to fix? help!01:52
geniimiltos Bleh perhaps try gksudo Kate      instead of kdesu01:53
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geniino wait01:53
bumzonosrednaekim: what do u mean go to /media/sda1?01:53
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geniimiltos kdesudo i think instead of kdesu .... I am getting tired, very sorry01:53
geniimiltos so: kdesudo Kate                 and then the line as described added to the file.01:54
bumzonosrednaekim: when i click on storage media ... it shows a blank page01:54
nosrednaekimdo you have your HD plugged in?01:54
nosrednaekimad can you see it in your own user?01:55
nosrednaekim*and01:55
bumzonosrednaekim: media:/ on the adress bar01:55
geniimiltos Getting a coffee. Back shortly01:55
malik_can any1 help with webcam prob?........i cant get my creative pd0400 webcam to work..............wiki pages are of no use as i hav tried for the last 3 wks or so.......if here is some1 from turkey i will gladly pay for them to come n fix01:55
miltos<genii>ok01:55
nosrednaekimbumzo: I know..... is your hard drive plugged in,and can you see the contents without running that kdesu command I gave you?01:56
geniimiltos I am back and hopefully a bit more awake01:57
genii:)01:57
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miltosgenii...i am all at sea...01:58
geniimiltos OK, at konsole:     kdesudo Kate01:58
miltoswhat can I do now?01:58
miltosgenii, command not found!01:59
bumzo nosrednaekim: the drive is plugged in ,.... i can see it on the desktop. when i click it .. .it open on konqorer ...and can view the contents01:59
geniimiltos Does Kate open when you run it this way? If not, please report the message konsole gives01:59
_Daisuke_Ido_well, it happened.  for the first time i'm actually going to require a reinstall of kubuntu...01:59
geniimiltos OK01:59
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nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: what'd you do?01:59
geniimiltos But you were able before to open Kate with kdesu     but just not to save the file?01:59
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_Daisuke_Ido_beryl went nuts.  even starting kde crashes now (without beryl)02:00
nosrednaekimbumzo: but you can't see it mounted when you navigate to /media?02:00
_Daisuke_Ido_i'm in xfce as a fallback while i download and burn an iso02:00
miltoskdesu works...kdesudo doen't work02:00
nosrednaekimgo to "/media" bumzo02:00
bumzonosrednaekim: no its not there02:00
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: thats interesting....02:01
geniimiltos OK. It is extremely odd that it will open the editor in superuser mode but then complain of not being able to save the file.02:01
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bumzonosrednaekim: bit i can see it on media:/sda102:01
nosrednaekimnot "media:/" "/media"02:01
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_Daisuke_Ido_makes me wonder if it's an issue with the version of the nvidia driver i'm using, or aiglx itself...02:01
geniimiltos Have you used the editor "nano" before?02:01
provolikis there anyone which uses VICE (c64 emulator) ?02:01
miltosgenii...yes02:01
eilker!mske02:01
eilker!mske02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mske - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
eilker!make02:02
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:02
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geniimiltos OK. So then try to open it with sudo, eg:   sudo nano /etc/fstab02:02
nosrednaekimbumzo: you can see it there in that browser I told you to open?02:02
geniimiltos This should run it with superuser privelege and open the fstab file02:02
_Daisuke_Ido_plus i'd like to switch mt root and home partitions.  10gb isn't enough for /home and 30gb is too much for /02:02
nosrednaekimif not, please navigate to /media"02:02
miltosok...opened02:02
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nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: well thats a good reason then...02:02
bumzonosrednaekim: yes i can, when i go to /media ... its there under sda102:03
nosrednaekimwell... go into it02:03
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: not particularly, but it's better than nothing :D02:03
nosrednaekimnow you have write permissions02:03
geniimiltos good. So now to add to the file the line. 1 moment and I will retrieve it again so you can cut and paste it from here02:03
_Daisuke_Ido_but i have half an hour until this download's done02:03
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nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: haha for a whole Iso? lucky you...02:04
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geniimiltos:  /home/miltos/Suse01.iso /media/iso udf,iso9660 ro,loop,user,auto 0 002:04
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bumzonosrednaekim: stil lcant write02:04
nosrednaekimdial up here...02:04
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geniimiltos Did it paste in all right so far?02:05
miltosdone...02:05
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: ouch.  then it would probably be tactless to say that 3mbit is a painful drop from the 6mbit i'm used to :(02:05
nosrednaekimbumzo: even in that browser I told you to open?02:05
geniimiltos OK. Now, importantly, will nano let you save the change, or does it complain as Kate did before?02:05
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miltosnano saved succesfully!!!!02:05
geniimiltos Whew!02:06
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: I'd say that you were being a little too picky...;)02:06
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miltos<genii>now what?02:06
miltosshould i will try to mount?02:06
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geniimiltos OK, so after all this, now try from command line to mount it...eg:   mount /media/iso02:06
_Daisuke_Ido_nosrednaekim: maybe just a tiny bit :)02:06
geniimiltos If no complaint from the mount command, see if files show in /media/iso   directory02:07
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_Daisuke_Ido_little mad that verizon dsl (not fios) is my only option here...  comcast can't run service because the apartment complex has their own cable service (via sat), and verizon can't run fiber to the buildings :(02:08
bumzo nosrednaekim: yes ... i typed in ''kdesu konqurer'' asked for a password ... it opened the konqurer file browser ... put /media it showed .. but i still can write anything to it02:08
miltosyes...all files are there!!!!!!02:08
guidenhow do I know which fonts I can use?02:09
_Daisuke_Ido_guiden: as far as what types?02:09
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nosrednaekimbumzo you mean you can't write anything to /media/sda1 right? you didn't try writing directly to /media did you?02:09
geniimiltos good, success after all then. If you wish the image not to be auto mounted each boot, change the word auto   in the line wqe added to noauto  instead02:09
miltos<genii>in which directory should images should be placed...in order to work?02:11
guidenI want a edgy font02:11
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bumzonosrednaekim: yes i cant write anything to /media/sda1 ... but i can write to /media02:11
HomeRoey*an Edgy font02:11
rambohi02:11
ramboagain one problem02:11
rambowhat can i do if i get this "Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. ()" when i try to view movies with more than stereo sound02:12
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nosrednaekimbumzo: Very odd.02:12
ramboand i have a pppoe connection which resets every 24hours; will connect back automaticly?02:12
geniimiltos Are you planning to have many images always mounted? If so then separate directories for each would be preferred. If you will only be mounting 1 image at a time, then you can use the /media/iso   directory you have already, then add to the fstab an entry exactly as we have now, with "noauto" instead of "auto". Then you can manually mount whatever image you like to a common directory...02:13
genii...(eg, /media/iso). But not more than 1 at a time in this case02:13
fuel!xorg02:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:13
fuelok how do i do a total re install of x window system ?02:13
nosrednaekimBumzo: is you external HD by any change formatted NTFS?02:13
nosrednaekimfuel: why would you want to do that?02:14
fuelmy friend messed up his x org and deleted some shared libraries02:14
bumzonosrednaekim: what does that mean? i intalled ntfs-3g and i can read and write to ntfs partitions on my hdd partitins (eg hda1)02:14
geniifuel sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:14
eilkerhow to convert *wav to *mp3 ?02:14
fuelgenii: it just reconfigures xserver02:14
bumzonosrednaekim: yes its a ntfs extarnal HDD02:14
nosrednaekimbumzo: but is that hard drive NTFS? ie. did you format it in windows?02:14
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fuelhe is not even able to login and startx results in shared libraries missing errors02:15
geniifuel Yes, this is before you stated some files were wiped out02:15
fuelok02:15
fuelso its sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg and then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg right ?02:15
bumzonosrednaekim: yes ... on windows .. i had formatted it on ntfs then put my music files in it02:15
nosrednaekimbumzo: I don't have any experience with ntfs-3g.....sorry, go over to #ubuntu there are alot more people there.02:16
geniifuel You could try just sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg02:16
fuelok02:16
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nosrednaekimmake sure you tell them its formatted as NTFS02:16
bumzohow do i get to #ubuntu?02:16
fuelbumzo: "/join #ubuntu"02:17
miltos<genii> and what if the *.iso files are on external hard drive? the command should be...sth like that ? ' sudo mount path...*iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop'02:17
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bumzothanks fuel: nosrednaekim:02:18
bumzolet me try in ubuntu02:18
geniimiltos Because the fstab entries have the option "user" you do not need to do mount command with sudo.      If you add additional entries to fstab with common mount dir eg: /media/iso   then you need "noauto" instead of "auto" as proper option on all these entries.02:18
nosrednaekimok... cya02:18
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kaktuskattaHi! Can someone here please explain to me what the differences between KDE and Gnome are?02:19
fuel!kde > kaktuskatta02:19
fuel!gnome > kaktuskatta02:19
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
geniimiltos And when fstab contains an entry, you can put simply to mount just the originating path of the iso file02:19
miltosok...so do I have to change fstab every time i want to load another iso file?02:20
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geniimiltos eg: mount /someisoplace/image.iso                    will mount that image into /media/iso02:20
miltosok...02:20
rambocan i set a upload limit in ktorrent?02:20
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rambonot for a whole program, just for one torrent02:21
stamen_hi02:21
stamen_how to fix the los&found directory02:21
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stamen_I don't want to see it02:21
_Daisuke_Ido_rambo: a max ratio or speed limit?02:21
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stamen_so how to fix this02:21
stamen_what should I do02:21
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amayerahi02:21
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nosrednaekimstamen:whats wrong with it?02:21
stamen_!lost&found02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lost&found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
geniimiltos To just do a simple temporary mount when you do not plan to keep using it a lot, then it is better just to do it manually with ther old way: eg:   sudo mount -t is09660 -o loop,user /isopath/image.iso /media/iso02:22
fuel!adsl02:22
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE02:22
stamen_nosrednaekim: I want to remove the directory02:22
`Z`poy02:22
geniimiltos you use -t iso9660 for CD images and -t udf for DVD images02:22
ramboyeah _Daisuke_Ido_, like that, but not global; only for one torrent at a time02:22
miltos<genii>ok...now I've got it02:22
amayeraI installed feisty on my laptop and suspend to ram nearly worked out of the box, only one problem: I need to run ifdown and ifup after wakeup, can I put this into a script?02:22
nosrednaekimstamen_: you can't02:22
stamen_nosrednaekim: all is ok, there but how to place the documents where they were02:22
stamen_nosrednaekim: for what is this ?02:22
nosrednaekimstamen_: there are documents in it?02:23
stamen_nosrednaekim: yes02:23
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stamen_but I dont need them02:23
nosrednaekimstamen_: is something that comes with the ext3 filesystem02:23
geniimiltos :)02:23
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stamen_nosrednaekim: aa ok:)02:23
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_Daisuke_Ido_rambo: in the status tab for each torrent there's a "sharing" section, you can set ratio limits for individual torrents there02:23
geniimiltos The -o user is so that regular users can browse the mount not just root02:23
_Daisuke_Ido_if you're looking to speed limit individual torrents, i'm not sure02:23
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stamen_nosrednaekim: so then how to fix the non contigeus  message after fschk02:23
nosrednaekimstamen_: just in case you write to"/your drive" instead of "/yourdrive/a folder"02:24
nosrednaekimstamen_: is that on boot?02:24
stamen_nosrednaekim: yes02:24
stamen_nosrednaekim: when a shedule starts02:24
nosrednaekimtake things out of lost&found02:24
miltosok...now i see the picture...02:24
stamen_nosrednaekim: how to take them out02:24
rambo_Daisuke_Ido_: i can only set ratio limit, not upload speed limit02:24
stamen_nosrednaekim: with mv ?02:24
_Daisuke_Ido_right02:24
_Daisuke_Ido_i'm not sure on the speed limit02:25
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amayera I installed feisty on my laptop and suspend to ram nearly worked out of the box, only one problem: I need to run ifdown and ifup after wakeup, can I put this into a script?02:25
nosrednaekim"kdesu konqueror" navigate to your lost and found, and drag them out and pt the somehwere02:25
geniimiltos :) I hope it has been educational <laughing>02:25
_Daisuke_Ido_don't know if you can do that.  i know azureus can, but it's such a resource hog :\02:25
miltos<genii> do you suspect any problems with my sudo rights...????02:25
bumzonosrednaekim: now i have another prob. I cant mount a fat32 drive gives me this error ..02:25
stamen_nosrednaekim: ok02:25
bumzoCould not mount device.02:25
bumzoThe reported error was:02:25
bumzomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,02:25
bumzomissing codepage or other error02:25
bumzoIn some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:25
bumzodmesg | tail or so02:25
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nosrednaekimbumzo use pastebin02:25
miltos<genii>thanks...very much genii02:25
rambo_Daisuke_Ido_: yeah, i agree. is there any other torrent client?02:25
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stamen_nosrednaekim: and after that I will not see this non contigeus things ?02:26
_Daisuke_Ido_bittornado, and the official client02:26
ramboi used uTorrent in windows02:26
bumzoes .. .sorry ..so what does that mean?02:26
geniimiltos Well, it *IS* very odd that certain things did not seem to respect sudo. But if nano runs this way, then that user is definitely in the /etc/sudoer  file02:26
bumzo!pastebin02:26
nosrednaekimstamen_: I'm not sure, does it happen every boot?02:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:26
_Daisuke_Ido_theoretically, there should be a linux version of utorrent coming out02:26
nosrednaekim!pastebin | bumzo02:26
ubotubumzo: please see above02:26
stamen_nosrednaekim: not every02:26
_Daisuke_Ido_but i'm not holding my breath02:26
rambowhich one is the official?02:26
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nosrednaekimstamen_: ussually that happens whenever you hard reboot02:27
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_Daisuke_Ido_just the vanilla bittorrent client02:27
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stamen_nosrednaekim: yes I saw this thing after restart02:27
stamen_nosrednaekim: with reset02:27
stamen_button02:27
xBill02:27
xBill^^02:28
miltosshould i change anything?02:28
xBill02:28
nosrednaekimstamen_: yes, thats what does it...not good for your data, try not to do it if you don't have to02:28
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geniimiltos Well, just to check, please use the pastebin website to post the contents of your file /etc/sudoers    and I will look at it for anything funny02:28
_Daisuke_Ido_oh, and there's ABC, which might not be bad02:28
stamen_nosrednaekim: ok :)02:29
miltoswait...02:29
stamen_nosrednaekim: but I needed to do this, but that was after very long time02:29
stamen_ago02:29
malik_can some one install my webcam for me, i think its installed but i cant get it to appear in the amsn or kpete prefernces..........i will pay for the help?02:29
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_Daisuke_Ido_!webcam02:29
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:29
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malik_i have seen those pages but they are no help.................02:30
genii_Daisuke_Ido_: I think he's already been that route, he stated earlier it's been 3 weeks of trying to get it work02:30
nosrednaekimstamen_: ok02:30
rambo_Daisuke_Ido_: thanks for your help!02:30
_Daisuke_Ido_ah, ouch02:30
_Daisuke_Ido_i'm lost then :(  i don't use a webcam personally, so...02:30
_Daisuke_Ido_rambo: you're welcome02:31
malik_or can any1 tell where to buy linux compatible webcam?02:31
stamen_nosrednaekim: when I go to this lost7found dirs, there is nothing now, but in the kmenu the files are there02:31
malik_the one which actually work with pnp02:31
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stamen_nosrednaekim: how to reach them ?02:31
stamen_nosrednaekim: Do you know02:31
_Daisuke_Ido_whee!  iso burning time02:32
nosrednaekimin the kmenu?02:32
geniimalik_ I have always had good luck with Logitech Quickcam Express (usb model) under linux. But where in Turkey to buy one, I do not know02:32
_Daisuke_Ido_i shall return shortly with a clean system.  then i get to reinstall everything :(02:32
miltos<genii> i forgot pastebin adress...02:32
nosrednaekim_Daisuke_Ido_: have fun!!02:33
_Daisuke_Ido_yeah right :P02:33
genii!pastebin | miltos02:33
ubotumiltos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:33
nosrednaekim!pastebin > miltos02:33
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_Daisuke_Ido_it's less painful than a windows install, that's all i'm sayin'02:33
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miltos!pastebin | miltos02:33
nosrednaekim!botsnack02:34
ubotuYum!02:34
miltos!pastebin02:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:34
geniimiltos LOL For some simple things, the ! asks the bot in the channel to say what he knows about the word after the !02:34
nosrednaekimhaha the BOT is not the pastebin02:35
geniimiltos Did you manage to get the URL from what the bot said?02:35
miltosyes ...and now you want me to do what?02:36
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geniimiltos So that we may check the sudo permissions, please copy/paste the contents of /etc/sudoers to the website02:37
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miltos<genii>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9633/02:39
geniimiltos OK, reading. Back shortly02:39
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ubuntui just ran an update on my kubuntu and when i rebooted i got kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0), any idea what i can do about it? atm running on live cd02:41
geniimiltos Ah, OK. the user miltos must be a member of the group admin then which is allowed to run commands as root. All looks normal in there.02:42
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miltos<genii>so i don't have to change anything...02:43
nosrednaekimubuntu: do you know anything of what was upgraded?02:43
geniimiltos Correct, no changes needed. The times that sudo appeared not to work properly from before must have been from something else like a typo or something like that. No worries, anyhow02:43
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Mayernosrednaekim: yeah it seems it upgraded from edgy to feisty02:44
miltosok...cause security matters...and that's the main reason i turned to kubuntu from windows02:44
_HigHLanDERow cheet02:44
nosrednaekimMayer: ouch...02:44
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adry90kubuntu italian?02:45
genii!it02:45
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:45
Mayernosrednaekim: dont say that, makes me nervous :P02:45
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miltos<genii> thanks a lot for your help...i am leaving and i will be back after a while...staying tunned02:45
nosrednaekimMayer, did you have any important information on your linux partition?02:46
geniimiltos Likely I'll still be here LOL02:46
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BenPA!emacs2102:46
ubotuemacs21: The GNU Emacs editor. In component main, is optional. Version 21.4a-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1969 kB, installed size 5904 kB02:46
mementomorihi all02:46
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Mayernosrednaekim: well yeah some stuff i wanna keep02:46
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guidendoes kubunut have a ftp client?02:47
BenPA!eieio02:47
ubotueieio: Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0pre3-1 (edgy), package size 119 kB, installed size 408 kB02:47
guidena gui ftp client02:47
nosrednaekimguden: konqueror?, kget?02:47
guidenok02:48
nosrednaekim!kget02:48
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB02:48
guidenI think they should split up konqueror into two separate programs02:48
fueli wonder why kget does not come installed by default in kubuntu02:48
nosrednaekimMayer, might want to take it off with the live cd...02:48
nosrednaekimfuel: me too02:48
nosrednaekimits very useful02:48
guidenone web and one filemanager02:48
fuelyeah .02:48
Mayernosrednaekim: so reinstall is needed?02:48
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fuelguiden: that is the philosophy of konqueror! its an all purpose thing02:49
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fuela browser,file manager and many many more..... the list never ends! :)02:49
geniiThe swiss army knife so to speak02:49
bentob0xwhen I try to add panels to my desktop, it works but once I'm right-clicking on the new panel and configure it, the settings apply to the main panel, not the new one02:49
guidenbut I like it when you have one program for one narrow taks02:49
guidentask02:49
nosrednaekimfuel: ssh browser, text previeweer, pdf reader02:49
guidenmore straigth forward02:49
fuelnosrednaekim: :)02:49
fuelbentob0x: you are applying the settings to the wrong panel02:50
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fuelor must be02:50
BenPAhi all has anyone else been having trouble with emacs21 install?  I've submitted 2 bug reports02:50
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eilker!make02:50
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:50
nosrednaekimbentob0x: youmust select from the drop-down list on the top of the "configure" widnows what panel you want to configure02:50
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Mayerwell then time to dust of the old windows cd then, been fun while it lasted. u all have fun now y'hear02:50
geniibentob0x: What the nosred dude said02:50
nosrednaekimMayer, why?02:50
bentob0xyes but I don't see the drop-down02:51
BenPAsad Mayer ... you should give it some more time02:51
bentob0xI'm right-clicking on the new panel and I get a configure dialog box with all settings possible and no dropdown on it02:51
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nosrednaekimon the top of that window is a drop down list that says " main panel" at the moment02:52
bentob0xthe configure says 'Configure KDE Panel'02:52
nosrednaekimclick on it02:52
bentob0xthere isn't any dropdown list02:52
nosrednaekimunder arangement?02:52
bentob0xnope02:52
nosrednaekimnopr what?02:52
bentob0xposition, length, size, screen but no dropdown02:52
fuelbentob0x: post a screen shot02:53
nosrednaekimthere should be something called "settings for: "main panel""02:53
bentob0xk got the screenshot, where can I post it?02:53
nosrednaekimyeah... where do you post scree shots?02:54
nosrednaekim:-/\02:54
BenPAhi all has anyone else been having trouble with emacs21 install?  I've submitted 2 bug reports02:54
mementomoriI'd like to test latest kubuntu herd but I've some questions.. I've already kubuntu edgy installed on my laptop with lvm2 but I left some gb of lvm disk space unused. Can I install herd5 in this space without damaging edgy installation?02:54
stdinbentob0x: http://imageshack.us/02:54
fuelnosrednaekim: image shack ?02:54
fuelhttp://imageshack.us/02:55
nosrednaekimoh...ok..I thought there was like a pastebin for that sort of thing or omething02:55
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bentob0xthere we go02:56
bentob0xhttp://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1hs3.png02:56
bentob0xthx for help guys btw02:56
bentob0xok on that screen, the panel at the bottom is the one I did a right-click onto02:57
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fueloh my god! look at the kicker's size! :D02:57
bentob0xI know it's big, thx :)02:58
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bentob0xbasically, it doens't seem to be possible to setup settings for individuals panels02:59
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fuelbentob0x: i wonder where the combo box went02:59
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bentob0xyea me too02:59
nosrednaekimvery odd...03:00
allen84usmy amarok cant display chinese font03:00
bentob0x:(03:00
allen84uswho know how to fix?03:00
nosrednaekimbentob0x: are you sure you have extra panels?03:00
bentob0xon the screenshot, look at the bottom03:00
nosrednaekimthat menu isn't there if you don't have extra onales03:00
bentob0xit's the new panel03:00
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nosrednaekimok03:00
bentob0x:)03:00
nosrednaekimsorry...03:00
allen84ushow to display chinese font in amarok /03:00
nosrednaekim screen shot was too big to load that mush03:00
allen84usi cant see some chinese mp3 title03:01
nosrednaekim;)03:01
bentob0xhehe np, thx to help tho03:01
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stdinallen84us: don't know for sure, but maybe you need xfonts-intl-chinese03:01
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allen84uswhere to install that ?03:01
bentob0xmaybe there is another way to hit the configuration for the different panels?03:01
stdin!info xfonts-intl-chinese03:01
ubotuxfonts-intl-chinese: International fonts for X -- Chinese. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5628 kB, installed size 6572 kB03:01
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stdinallen84us: it's in the universe repository03:02
geniiallen84us: Is it all chinese fonts, or are some characters shown and others appear as blank squares?03:02
allen84uswat comman need to typ?03:02
allen84usno03:02
guidenCOME VISIT MY FIRST WEBPAGE!!!!!!!! http://spaceninja.freehostia.com/03:02
allen84usmy amarok tottallt cant see any chinese font03:02
stdinallen84us: open Adept, and install it, or use "sudo apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese-big" from Konsole03:02
allen84usbut in filesystem i can see03:02
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fuelguiden: nothing is there :P03:03
Lynoureguiden: is it about Kubuntu?03:03
ForgeAushmmm03:03
stdinguiden: take adverts to #kubuntu-offtopic03:03
ForgeAushey stdin03:03
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stdinhay ForgeAus :)03:03
guidenwhat it's not working?03:03
ForgeAusanyone know how to run the kubuntu upgrade tool?03:03
allen84usyea03:03
genii!info kde-i18n-zhcn03:03
ForgeAusadept installed it03:03
ubotukde-i18n-zhcn: Chinese Simplified internationalized (i18n) files for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 7728 kB03:03
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allen84usi'm installing03:03
ForgeAusbut I can't find it on the kmenu nor do I know the commandline to run it03:03
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stdinForgeAus: you know the package name?03:04
ForgeAusno03:04
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ForgeAushangon I"ll see if it is a package03:04
geniiallen84us: You may also find this page helpful for other things relating to KDE and Chinese things: http://www.nixser.com/2006/10/23/debian-chinese-how-to/03:05
johnhello03:05
allen84us10s 10s03:05
allen84ushehe03:05
ForgeAusnope03:05
BluesKajHowdy All :)03:05
ForgeAusdoesn't show up as a package03:05
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nosrednaekimwell then how did you install it?03:05
nosrednaekimBlues: hello03:05
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim03:06
ForgeAusadept did, it come up a separate window saying there is an update for kubuntu03:06
Daisuke_Idoso far so good03:06
ForgeAusin an upgrade wizard03:06
nosrednaekimok....03:06
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nosrednaekimand that installed an upgrade tool?03:06
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ForgeAuswhen you run it it tells you to quit adept and run the kubuntu upgrade tool03:06
bentob0xok if the settings for my panels aren't working, should I reinstall Kicker?03:06
ForgeAusyes03:06
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nosrednaekimI think its called adept_upgrader03:07
ForgeAusit mentions its a development snapshot of ubuntu 7.04 'Feisty Fawn'03:07
Daisuke_Idodoes the kde version matter at all when running beryl?03:07
nosrednaekimno...I don't think so03:07
ForgeAusso kdesu adept_upgrader?03:07
Daisuke_Idoi didn't either.  just trying to rule out reasons that beryl might have been a cruel cruel mistress03:08
nosrednaekimexcept maybe for auquamarine03:08
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Daisuke_Idohmm, that could be an issue03:08
nosrednaekimyeah...03:08
Daisuke_Idowas running 3.5.603:08
nosrednaekimthats the newest03:08
Daisuke_Idoyep03:08
Daisuke_Idohow about the nvidia driver version?03:08
BluesKajsome advice about adept updates , if you have an ATI card and have it setup with the binary fglrx driver , then beryl or DRI will be reset back to the original default fglrx driver rendering beryl and DRI useless03:09
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Daisuke_Idowas at 1.8776, i think.  don't know how stable the 9xxx drivers are03:09
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: you were running beryl with the 8776?03:09
ForgeAusactually I messed up slightly its kubuntu distribution upgrade tool03:09
Daisuke_Ido...yes?03:09
BluesKajupdates read; upgrade03:09
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nosrednaekimyou MUST have been usiing XGL?03:09
Daisuke_Idoi started with xgl, and had font issues03:10
Daisuke_Idowent to aiglx, and it worked...  for a bit03:10
nosrednaekimyou can't rung AIGLX with the 8776 drivers03:10
Daisuke_Idotell my computer that!03:10
Daisuke_Idoguess i go to the 9xxx series03:11
nosrednaekimwell it stopped working right?:-P03:11
Daisuke_Idoha ha :P03:11
Daisuke_Idoyes03:11
nosrednaekimI didnt need to tell it03:11
Daisuke_Idoare the latest drivers available through the repositories, or is this going to be one of those fun "kill x and pray" things?03:12
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nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: you got the procedure down...03:12
BluesKajif you run upgrades in adept, you may lose your XGL, beryl,DRI setups03:12
bentob0xk my panel issue is a known bug, it's updatable via kcontrol03:12
nosrednaekimbentob0x: good03:12
ForgeAusadept_updater didn't work03:12
Daisuke_Idowhat, kill x and pray?  i'm used to that at this point :D03:12
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: good...03:12
Daisuke_Ido!nvidia03:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:13
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ForgeAusI'm goina ask jucato, he'll prolly know03:13
ForgeAusjust gotta wait till I can catch him around03:13
Daisuke_Idoand apparently the 7600gs isn't a recognized card...03:13
nosrednaekimForgeAus: why do you want to upgrade to fiest anyway?03:13
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ForgeAuswhy not?03:13
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: by the 9776's?03:14
nosrednaekimForgeAus: cuase fiest is VERY unstable ATM03:14
Daisuke_Idothe 8's03:14
nosrednaekim*fiesty03:14
nosrednaekimget the 9's a new one was just released a couple days ago03:14
ForgeAusVERY? can't be much more unstable than my edgy (with slack + BSD extensions)03:14
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Daisuke_Idoooh03:14
ForgeAuspartially debianized03:14
zerozerowhen I upgraded to edgy my display resolution went down. in dapper I could run at 1280x1024 but now I can only run at 1024x768. How can I make it so I can set my resolution hhigher?03:14
ForgeAuszero add it to your xorg.conf03:15
BluesKajofficail Fiesty release is scheduled for Apr 19 , not long03:15
ForgeAusin /etc/X11 I think03:15
ForgeAusbesides Adept detected it, so when adept says its time I'm willing to go with it03:15
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||arifaXzerozero: you could try your old xorg.conf ( :) i know you have a backup )03:15
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ForgeAusplus Jucato suggested I do it earlier03:16
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zerozeroyeah right :)03:16
zerozerolet me see about editing my xorg file03:16
ForgeAus(because I added some unstable debian packages I apparently shouldn't have)03:16
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ForgeAusand theres a chance it could reinstate my gui login03:17
ForgeAus(currently I log into tty)03:17
ForgeAusthen startx from there to get into kde03:17
KingCertis there a better video player than kaffine03:17
ForgeAusbetter?03:17
ForgeAusum there are many others03:17
ForgeAusvlc, helix, xine, mplayer03:18
zerozeroamarok03:18
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fuel!vlc > KingCert03:18
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ForgeAusamarok does vid? interesting I didn't know that03:18
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KingCertI do not get any sound when I play movies that are in kvcd format03:18
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BluesKajzerozero, system settings/monitor&display/hardware /admin mode/graphics card configure , then monitor configure, apply . Then you should be able to reset you resolution.03:19
Daisuke_Idojust have to wait for updates to finish downloading03:19
KingCerti'll try vlc03:19
Daisuke_Idovlc is king03:19
ForgeAusyeah I like vlc alot03:20
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Daisuke_Idothere's almost nothing it won't play, and play properly03:21
eXistenZBluesKaj: When you subscribe to a mailinglist, how do you keep up with the great number of emails?03:21
ForgeAusI used to use it alot then Kaffeine seems to have been all I need since then03:21
eXistenZBluesKaj: doesn't your email get crammed up?03:21
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BluesKajeXistenZ, Xen yeah I did join one but i dropped it due to all unnecesary emails ,. I figured i could live without it , and I can :)03:24
julle_!ftp03:24
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd03:24
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silensiusdoes anyone help my to upgrade just rhytnbox 0.96 to 0.98 for have jamendo and magnatune plugins on kubuntu 6.1003:24
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Daisuke_Idowhy not use amarok?03:25
RitzAmarok is the best!03:25
nosrednaekimAmarok roks03:25
Daisuke_Idosilensius: what does jamendo do?03:25
RitzYear i love it.03:25
Daisuke_Idobecause amarok 1.4.4 has magnatune's store built-in03:26
silensiusi will just listen audio streaming from www.jamendo.com03:26
Daisuke_Idoah, amarok's got radio built in as well03:26
silensiusah !!!03:26
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Daisuke_Idoi think they're shoutcast stations03:26
RitzWht is magnatune store sume shop?03:26
Daisuke_Idonot absolutely sure on that though03:26
julle_!KFTPGrabber03:27
ubotukftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB03:27
Daisuke_IdoRitz: it's like itunes music store...  but for indies03:27
Daisuke_Idosorta03:27
eXistenZI wonder whether there is on-click dictionary (just like babylon) for linux03:27
nosrednaekim!dictionary03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
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RitzI must visite that i like Ravi shankar and east indian muzik03:28
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fuel!offtopic > Ritz03:28
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yetihi - when trying to compile my own kernel with make-kpkg, i get rivafb sanity check errors, but rivafb is disabled in my kernel config....03:28
Daisuke_Idomagnatune's probably not the store for you then03:28
bomberim trying to boot to cli instead of kdm in edgy but it dont have inittab file03:29
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nosrednaekimbomber, can you get to kdm?03:29
Daisuke_Idowell, time to reboot into 2.6.17-1103:30
RitzWell i see it is better to skip anny topic.03:30
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zerozerochanging those video settings didn't work so well03:30
zerozeroi snow crashed my display03:30
bombernosrednaekim, i am in kde now if thats what you mean03:30
ForgeAuswow next-step on qemu thats interesting03:30
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zerozeroanyone have another suggestion for me03:30
carstenMoin. Can I already dare an update from Dapper to Feisty?03:31
nosrednaekimbomber: you want to go to the CLI? ctrl+alt+f103:31
carstenalready as in "is the upgrade path already possible)03:31
bomberwell i want to boot into it instead of that kdm crap03:31
chavocarsten, the upgrade path is always there, whether it leaves you with a usable system or not is the problem03:32
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carstenchavo: indeed :)03:32
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carstenOr is dapper->edgy->feisty better?03:32
nosrednaekimbomber: I think "nox" is a boot option03:32
ForgeAuscarsten you can dare it if you want but I don't know if its a good idea03:33
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bomberahhh ok03:33
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carstenForgeAus: so you'd got the ->edgy->feistry way03:33
bomberthanks .. i'll look03:33
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ForgeAusum I'd consult Jucato, he knows better than I03:33
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ForgeAusif its a non-critical system its ok.. I mean in vmware I'd probaly go right ahead and try anything03:34
ForgeAusbut for your base OS I don't think Feisty is that ready yet....03:34
carstenok03:34
ForgeAusthatbeing said I'm considering upgrading to it myself!03:34
carstenand yes, it is the primary PC of my sister03:34
ForgeAus(asap)03:34
nosrednaekimcasten: I wouldn't try it03:34
carstenForgeAus: she's using dapper but has some isses which are solved in newer software-versions03:35
carstenand she's only here for 3 days so I need to decide today03:35
ForgeAusyeah pydance for example is solved in feisty03:35
ForgeAus(edgy requires a patch)03:35
carstenI found edgy really not stable enough03:35
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carstenthat is why she's on dapper right now03:35
ForgeAuswell if I update to feisty I'll let you know :)03:35
zerozeroi wish I was back on dapper :)03:36
nosrednaekimcarsten: dapper should be fine03:36
ForgeAusI'm on edgy too03:36
nosrednaekimisthere some problem with it?03:36
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nosrednaekimedgy works better for me...03:36
binks_hi anyone on fiesty03:36
ForgeAusbinks why is it unstable? lol (kidding)03:36
carstennosrednaekim: not as in bugs, but as in some issues. For example YouTube doesn't really work even though the flash-crap is installed03:36
binks_how can i get mp3 files to play this was never a prob b4 but now no03:36
ForgeAuswe were just discussing the upgrade to feisty03:37
yetibinks_: check "RestrictedFormats" in the ubuntu wiki :)03:37
binks_no its fine just an mp3 issue in k3b and it crashes amorak03:37
binks_!mp303:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:37
nosrednaekimbinks_ fiesty is marked unstab;e for a reason ya know03:37
ForgeAusor you could just install vlc or get it from medibuntu repo or something03:37
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nosrednaekimcarsten: did you install firefox?03:38
ForgeAusnos, I think your overdoing it claiming feisty's instability...03:38
carstenyes03:38
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ForgeAusI don't think its all THAT unstable.... sure its not complete yet...03:38
nosrednaekimForgeAus: well... maybe, but better safe than sory...03:38
nosrednaekimyou don't want users upgrading en masse yet03:39
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ForgeAuswell considering jucato recommended I upgrade (and this was before the current release...) perhaps its stable enough03:39
binks_i no but it dont hurt to tyr :)03:39
chavoI don't think he's overdoing it at all. It is marked as unstable and will break. Some people are better prepared to handle this, as you can see.03:39
ForgeAusunless somethings happened since then03:39
ForgeAusyeah I guess I always got Jucato to ask to help fix something if it breaks03:39
binks_just dont use it as main os dual boot03:39
nosrednaekimhey..I'm going to install it on *another* partiton when the beta comes out... but I;m experienced03:40
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ForgeAusor get a virtualizer like virtualbox or vmware03:40
ForgeAusand run it in there03:40
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chavowell libxine-ffmpeg had an update last night so that could be the mp3 problem03:40
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geniiI'm always suspicious of errors when running in some vm ...eg: is the error in the vm or in the thing running in it? etc03:40
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Dr_willisive had a few distros and live cd's that did NOT like vmware.. oddly enough03:41
binks_looks like it may be causes xine xmms and amorak to freeze if i open an mp303:42
ForgeAusits annoying to install the server version the kinds of questions it asks03:42
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ForgeAusbut I found it useable at least...03:42
ForgeAusbut then I was used to it in windows first...03:42
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bomberdoes anyone know what file replaced inittab in edgy release?03:42
Dr_willisThey created a new 'init' system.03:42
binks_righty reboot into 6.10 cya03:42
Dr_willistheres some inittab converter script.. but ive not looked into it much. Not bothered with inittab in ages.03:43
chavobinks_, amarok working here03:43
Dr_willis!inittab03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
Dr_willisHmm03:43
ForgeAuswhat is inittab?03:43
ForgeAusinitialization table?03:43
bomberim not sure... i need to edit to to get my system to boot to a different runlevel than stock03:44
Dr_willisa file that init looks at (i think) and runs the initial services03:44
Dr_willis!upstart03:44
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/03:44
Dr_willisThere we go03:44
Dr_willishttp://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/08/26/upstart-in-universe          has some info also03:44
bomberthanks03:45
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ForgeAusso nobody knows anything about the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool?03:45
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franhi03:45
Dr_willisForgeAus,  what tool is that?03:46
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nosrednaekimfran: i03:46
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ForgeAusI don't know03:46
ForgeAusadept installs it in a wizard after it detects a new distro ready03:46
ForgeAusand asks you to close adept to run the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool03:47
ForgeAusbut I can't find it on the kmenu and I don't know the command line to run it03:47
franis someone here who could help me with the irc program konsersation plz ?03:47
nosrednaekimForgeAus: wow...they are giving that to anyone who when updating edgy?03:47
nosrednaekimfran: whats your trouble03:47
ForgeAuspossibly?03:48
ForgeAusI don't know03:48
ForgeAusmight just be the repos I use?03:48
sarehi! can anyone tell me why 915resolution isn't in my apt-get and how I can get it there?03:48
franhow is the comand to connect on an other server without using F2 ?03:48
Dr_willisForgeAus,  i cant recall ever seeing it.03:48
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nosrednaekimtype "/join #<channelyou want>03:49
Dr_willisfran,  try /server ?03:49
franbut is dont works03:49
frani try /server but is doesnt work03:49
Dr_willishit f1 read the docs for the program yet >:)03:49
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frani try /server irc.ubuntu.com and /server irc://irc.ubuntu.com03:50
slyfoxWhat is going on? Why is Adept tellng me this ? http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3510/kubuntune2.jpg   Did Feisty got to the point wehre it is stable?03:50
compilerwriterLynoure are you around?03:51
Dr_willisfeisty proberly wont be stable for a month or more after its released. :)03:51
nosrednaekimForgeAus: see what I mean?03:51
Dr_willis*kidding*03:51
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Dr_willisnosrednaekim,  hes wanting to join a SERVER not a channel on a server. :)03:51
nosrednaekimslyfox: unless you are very experienced, don't upgrade... its not stable yet03:51
ForgeAusslyfox thats the one03:52
nosrednaekimDr_willis: yesh... sorry03:52
ForgeAusI ran it too03:52
ForgeAusit installed a feisty upgrade tool03:52
slyfoxForgeAus: thats the one? How do you mean ?03:52
ForgeAusbut I can't find it (calls it the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool)03:52
slyfoxForgeAus: so you are on Geisty now ?03:52
ForgeAustells you to quit adept and run it03:52
ForgeAusno03:52
ForgeAusI don't know how to run the upgrade tool03:52
ForgeAusit doesn't show up in the kmenu that I can find03:52
ForgeAusnor do I know the commandline to run it03:52
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ForgeAusbut thats the wizard that installs it03:53
slyfoxForgeAus: it was not a commadn line, adept jsut did a few updates for digicam and this poped up03:53
sare_stupid isp03:53
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ForgeAusslyfox... sure its not an anything03:53
ForgeAusits because you ran adept03:53
sare_umm did anyone get my question on apt-get and 915resolution?03:53
compilerwriterAnyone able to help me verify that I have denyhosts installed correctly?03:53
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ForgeAusit found that theres a new fiesty03:53
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lipei need help to install jdk1.6.0 ... please ...03:53
nosrednaekim!915resolution03:53
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ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)03:54
ForgeAusit just adds a program that's the upgrade tool but doesn't tell you how to run it03:54
slyfoxForgeAus: why now ? Why not before when I did all other updates. it jsut happened today03:54
ForgeAusalso it doesn't show up as a package03:54
nosrednaekimdo you have universe enabled sare?03:54
ForgeAusgood quesiton why now?03:54
ForgeAusI don't have the answer03:54
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ForgeAusits only new I think03:54
ForgeAusI didn't get it yesterday...03:54
sare_nosrednaekim: any idea why it wouldn't be in apt-get's repository?03:55
nosrednaekimsare_: do you have the universe repoitory enabled?03:55
ForgeAusit does give a warning that feisty is a devel OS tho03:55
nosrednaekim!universe03:55
sare_all the FAQs say it should be there and it was definately in the ubuntu install I was playing with yesterday03:55
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:55
sare_but not kubuntu03:55
ForgeAusand the wizard itself doesn't update it...03:55
lipei need help to install jdk1.6.0 ... please ...03:55
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sare_righteo03:55
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ForgeAusI think I"m almost ready to put feisty in my repos!03:56
Dr_willis!java03:56
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:56
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slyfoxForgeAus: so i should not press update to feisty ?03:56
Dr_willis!find sun-java-jdk03:57
sare_nosrednaekim: I'll look up info on the universe repository03:57
ubotuPackage/file sun-java-jdk does not exist in edgy03:57
sare_unless there's a simple fix you can tell me now03:57
ForgeAussly can if you want03:57
ForgeAusdid it open another proggy for you?03:57
Dr_willis!find java03:57
ubotuFound: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 248 others)03:57
sare_if it's something that will involve a lot of effort I'll just google it03:57
nosrednaekimsare: go into manage repositories and enable the one that says universe03:57
ForgeAusit just told me to quit adept and run the tool03:57
slyfoxForgeAus: I wonder if I will scre up my system with that update ? :)03:57
sare_manage repositories where?03:57
sare_is this still in the terminal?03:58
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ForgeAusI doubt it will do anything that drastic03:58
ForgeAusbut there is a big potential unknown03:58
KingCertvlc03:58
BluesKajsare in adept03:58
sare_oh read the guide.03:59
sare_thanks guys  :)03:59
nosrednaekimYW03:59
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KingCertwhat is the best wat to install vlc04:02
KingCertway*04:02
nosrednaekim!vlc04:02
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:02
nosrednaekim!find vlc04:03
ubotuFound: libvlc0, libvlc0-dev, mozilla-plugin-vlc, vlc, vlc-nox (and 8 others)04:03
nosrednaekimit should your repositories somewhere04:03
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KingCertseems there is more documentation on ubuntu than kubuntu04:04
ForgeAusI just can't believe nobody know the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool04:04
ForgeAusKingCert for the most part kubuntu IS ubuntu04:04
geniiKingCert Much of the info is relevant to all the dists of course04:04
ForgeAusjust a few difference and the window manager is different04:04
nosrednaekimKingcert: you can ussually use any ubuntu tutorial for kubuntu04:05
ForgeAusmuch of the Kubuntu documentation could just as easily double as ubuntu documentation as well anyway!04:05
KingCertseems gnome is moe popular04:05
ForgeAusI can't figure why that is04:05
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ForgeAusI guess people just don't know what they're missing!04:05
KingCertme either04:05
nosrednaekimunfortunately so .. yes04:05
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nosrednaekimForgeAus: yep!04:06
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BacwardsDownI thought kde was used more than gnome?04:06
nosrednaekimI tried using gnome for a week... oh how annoying...04:06
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ForgeAushehe04:06
ForgeAusI tried using gnome I could still use it I just prefer KDE04:07
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ForgeAusI still think Amiga's workbench could make a great desktop for linux04:07
nosrednaekimBacwardsDown: I think gnome beat it in a Poll on Linux Questions04:07
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ForgeAus(there is an amiwm but its way less than configurable)04:07
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BluesKajwell check #ubuntu , see how many in the nicklist vs here.04:08
ForgeAusits about the same04:08
ForgeAusactually no04:08
BacwardsDownhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=51494504:08
ForgeAusway more in ubuntu04:08
ForgeAusmore than double04:08
ForgeAus361 here04:08
BacwardsDownkde had almost 2x more vote's than gnome04:08
ForgeAusaccording to konversation04:09
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: precisely why I prefer this channel04:09
ForgeAusand there has 104604:09
BluesKaj1046 in ubuntu04:09
ForgeAus324 in #kde04:09
BluesKajnow 1044 :)04:09
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keldonjaciao a tutti04:10
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BluesKajI run installed Kubuntu right off the top after my excursions into mandriva and fedora , KDE was the way for me04:10
BacwardsDownI tried linux first with the live cd from knoppix, and it has kde as default04:11
nosrednaekimyeah..KDE has always been my choice04:11
BluesKaj!it | keldonja04:11
ubotukeldonja: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:11
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BluesKajknoppix is a cool little OS ...works right at the get go04:13
BluesKajhardware - wise etc04:13
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nosrednaekimwow... yeah look at this for KDE usage04:17
nosrednaekimhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=40902804:17
nosrednaekimKDE won big time04:17
SSJ_GZnosrednaekim: It won again this year, but not by such a big margin.04:18
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SSJ_GZnosrednaekim: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=51494504:18
Bi||aBongwhy when i run ati control this don't run?04:19
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nosrednaekimoh was that a past year? haha sorry04:19
SSJ_GZnosrednaekim: np :)04:20
BacwardsDownnot a big margin? 1135 vs 61304:20
nosrednaekimwell I think ubuntu really raised Gnome's scores04:20
nosrednaekimgo look  at disto of choice...04:20
BacwardsDownit has to be:P, as you see how populair ubuntu is now04:21
BacwardsDowncompared to last year04:21
nosrednaekimyeah...I know.. its crazy04:21
mjunxman, if kubuntu had more people working on it like ubuntu does, I think kde would still be dominating like there's no tomorrow04:21
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nosrednaekimmjunx... I know its sad, Kubuntu isn't a very important KDE distro04:21
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BacwardsDownwell, most of the things the developpers do for ubuntu, is going straight to kubuntu too?04:22
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mjunxI like it though04:22
mjunxI mean, where else can you get the power of debian with kde?04:22
nosrednaekimBacwardsDown: alot of the underlying stuff yes04:22
ben325ewhat are the "popular" kde distros?04:22
mjunxsuse is one of them04:22
mjunxalthough I think they make it too much like windows04:22
nosrednaekimmjunx, sabayon too04:22
nosrednaekimand linspire04:22
mjunxthey've got a "My Computer" for god's sake04:22
nosrednaekimand pclinux os04:22
mjunxlinspire's gonna be based on ubuntu anyhow04:22
BacwardsDownpeope just like "good old windoze"04:22
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mjunxwell, I say "meh" to that04:23
nosrednaekimBacwardsDown: really? then why is ubuntu so poular?04:23
BacwardsDownyeah, and the installer from linspire goes to ubuntu04:23
nosrednaekimkubuntu is more like windows04:23
nosrednaekimI think thats probably a good thing04:23
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mjunxwindows gets a lot of things wrong04:23
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mjunxyet everyone wants to copy that04:23
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nosrednaekimI was talking about BacwardsDown post04:23
BacwardsDownwhy it is so popular? I am wondering how many people switched from windows->ubuntu and linux->ubuntu04:24
mjunxos x gets a lot of things right, but it still gets a good amount of things wrong04:24
mjunxoh well, I guess things like blackbox are still original04:24
nosrednaekimyeah....04:24
nosrednaekimand enlightenment04:24
mjunxI mean, I used to use a blackbox derivative (bbLean IIRC) on windows04:24
mjunxoh yeah, but e17 hasn't been released yet, has it?04:24
BacwardsDownwell, and gnome isnt that far apart from windows I think (compared to other window managers)04:24
mjunxand gnome ain't the only problem04:25
mjunxgtk sucks ass04:25
mjunxfrom a programmer and usability standpoint04:25
mjunxI'd much rather use object-oriented GUI code04:25
BluesKajBacwardsDown, most noobs say that KDE is more like "windoze" then gnome04:25
mjunxsince everything is an object04:25
nosrednaekimI use Tk...so I really aving nothing to say about that:-P04:25
onikde looks more like windows if your looking at Vista04:25
nosrednaekim*have04:25
BluesKajincluding me :)04:26
mjunxgnome is like a helpless hodge-podge of windows and macs04:26
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Dr_willisI wish more disrtos would just use the 'vanilla' gnome and kde settings...04:26
mjunxbut I'm using the polyester theme! :] 04:26
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mjunxDr_willis, how about slackware?04:26
mjunxor gentoo?04:26
mjunxor any of the source-based distros like sourcemage?04:27
mjunxany of the _other_ that is04:27
BluesKajGnome doesn't appeal to me visually at all , and I'm not real particular about how things look, just ask my wife :)04:27
nosrednaekimDr willis, kubuntu is pretty default....04:27
nosrednaekimexcept for the control center04:27
mjunxI don't think gentoo patches many things without you needing to download their patches04:27
BacwardsDowngentoo is dominating the source-based-distro's right?04:27
nosrednaekimyep...04:27
mjunxindeed04:27
nosrednaekimI find gentoo anoying though04:27
nosrednaekimI tried it once04:27
mjunxI've heard of people using it in server settings even...04:27
Dr_willisI installed the "LinuxMint" (ubuntu variant) and their gnome is so tweaked - it dont even look like gnome.. Heh heh04:27
oniits very hard to install (gentoo)04:28
BacwardsDownI have tried it (gentoo), got stuck with a kernel panic XD04:28
mjunxgentoo is too gnome-biased, so I say nay04:28
BacwardsDownbut got to go, see you later!04:28
mjunxI found it easier to install gentoo back when you had to do it from bash04:28
nosrednaekimgentoo is not biased oward anything04:28
nosrednaekimbye04:28
mjunxI tried doing it via their gui installer, and that's even more confusing04:28
oniI just gave up after an hour of confusion04:28
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mjunxbye bye BacwardsDown04:28
Dr_willisafter an hr.. heh heh...04:28
nosrednaekiman easier way is to go get sabayon or kororaa04:28
Daisuke_Idooookay then04:29
Dr_willistake 3 hrs and read the install docs first. :) then begin..04:29
mjunxreal life is gnome-biased (just like it's liberally-biased hehe)04:29
TheGateKeepermjunx, give sabayon a try :-)04:29
mjunxsabayon?04:29
Dr_willisI tried sabayon.. it had... issues..04:29
Daisuke_Idohappy 9xxx series driver04:29
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nosrednaekimsabayon is beautiful...04:29
mjunxat this rate, it's easier to just go with LFS04:29
oniim pretty happy with Kubuntu though04:29
nosrednaekimI just like binaryies better though04:29
TheGateKeepersabayon is gentoo, made easy (at least installing it is easy)04:29
mjunxthere are new distros based on LFS all the time, and many of them have good ideas04:29
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Dr_willisSLAX :)04:30
nosrednaekimhaha...04:30
nosrednaekimSLAX is interesting04:30
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mjunxy'know, gentoo looks good, but I don't like the developer attitude anymore04:30
nosrednaekimwhy?04:30
mjunxtheir original maintainers were much more community-oriented04:30
nosrednaekim(my brother is a big gentoo fanatic)04:30
mjunxbut the current ones are like "my way or the highway, bitch"04:31
nosrednaekimI thought gentoo was allabout having it YOUr way?04:31
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mjunxme too04:31
mjunxsome of the current maintainers don't seem to think so04:31
Dr_willisYea - slax's module repository is a bit... err.. chaotic also.04:31
KingCerti forgot how to get into kde's theme manager. Can any one help?04:32
TheGateKeepernever had any problems with gentoo dev's they have always been very helpfull04:32
mjunxKingCert, you can do it in kcontrol I know04:32
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mjunxoh damn, this is annoying04:32
BluesKajnosrednaekim, have you ever visited the gentoo chat ?04:32
mjunxkcontrol is completely and utterly broken in feisty04:32
KingCertthank you04:32
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mjunxI'm in #gentoo hehe04:32
nosrednaekimBluesKaj:  nope.. ehy?04:33
mjunxthey're almost as active as #ubuntu is04:33
KingCertgentoo is too pro for me I tried it04:33
BluesKajgo there and ask some noob type Qs and wait for the response04:33
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: why?04:33
BluesKajit's like a pirhana swarm or a total yawn ignore04:34
Dr_willisGentoo's wikis and docs are very very very.... well done. :)04:34
mjunxindeed04:34
nosrednaekimahh..... I assume thats not a good thing?04:34
nosrednaekimI use the gentoo docs all the time...04:34
Dr_willispeople dont want to put forth any effort to actually 'read' any more.04:34
BluesKajyeah , that's the first advice ..read the man pages04:34
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nosrednaekimyeah..I guess if you are using gentoo, ou can't be babied04:35
mjunxevery time I find a program that doesn't have a manpage, I cringe04:35
mjunxbecause some of them don't even have a --help, -h, or -help option04:35
mjunx*coughglxgearscough*04:35
Dr_willisI just get so sick of  people whining ''im noobie, i should have to put forth any effort!"04:35
Dr_willis:)04:35
nosrednaekimmjunx, its "glxgears -info"04:35
nosrednaekimto get framerate04:35
Dr_willisglxgears is a bit of a disaster in ways. :)04:35
mjunxthat doesn't give you its parameters04:35
nosrednaekimfor such a commonly used program. yes04:35
Dr_willisit worked this way for ages... NOW lets change it!04:36
Dr_willisand it snot like its a System Critical program..04:36
nosrednaekimmjunx: parameters?04:36
mjunxI checked the paramaters in the source code (in mesa), and I even ran strings against it (different paramaters than the source), but neither worked really04:36
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mjunxalso, check undocumented(7)04:36
Dr_willisI like it  when ya run Programname --help and it spits out "use -help" for help....04:36
Dr_willisgee.. couldent use both? :)04:36
mjunxif a program doesn't have a man page, that's a bug04:37
Dr_willisor -version and --version04:37
nosrednaekimhaha yeah.. thats helpfull04:37
mjunxoh, here's something a little more significant04:37
mjunxfaac and faad don't have man pages04:37
Dr_willis programname --help > programname.man04:37
nosrednaekimmjunx: no... its a FEATURE!!04:37
mjunxmy favourite example of a manpage overly done is the mplayer one04:37
mjunxit's like a freakin info page compressed into a single man page04:38
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mjunxand by a single man page, I mean it could probably print out to a few dozen pages04:38
Daisuke_Idowish me luck04:38
Daisuke_Idoand by luck i mean "pray it doesn't crash"04:38
mjunxand it's not even complete (environment variables aren't done yet)04:38
nosrednaekimhaha try "man transcode"04:38
nosrednaekim:-D04:38
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Dr_willisi think 'man mc' was several dozen pages04:39
mjunxyou think that's something?04:39
mjunxtranscode: 4417 lines (including nroff formatting I guess)04:39
BluesKajI must admit using -tovid manpages in cli was very helpful04:39
mjunxmplayer; 10437 lines04:39
nosrednaekimholy....04:40
nosrednaekimwow04:40
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nosrednaekimits probably bigger than mplayer itself..;)04:40
BluesKajthat's a bit much04:40
mjunxsince it both documents mplayer and mencoder04:40
mjunxokay, according to man (less) on my resolution04:41
Dr_willisman mc -->  1970/2011 (END)04:41
Dr_willisheh04:41
mjunxmplayer is 5959 lines04:41
mjunxtranscode is 2412 lines04:41
Dr_willisls --> 21604:41
mjunxstill only half04:41
nosrednaekimyah..04:41
mjunxman is 373 hehe04:41
BluesKajridiculous04:41
nosrednaekimnoby needs help? whats happened here?04:41
nosrednaekimIm mean I haven't gotten a request in like 10 minutes..04:42
nosrednaekim:-D04:42
mjunxit's morning time :)04:42
mjunxI've gotta eat some breakfast still04:42
Dr_willisthey are all asking how to read ntfs, and install video drivers in #ubuntu04:42
nosrednaekimDr willis..I like #kubuntu better :-P04:43
nosrednaekimtell one of them to come over here04:43
BluesKajok does anyones browser play this ? http://www.fastcompany.com/video/player.html04:43
Dr_willisnosrednaekim,  nah.. they can stay there04:44
mjunxoh damn, I found the biggest man page I have installed04:44
mjunxgcc04:44
mjunx7549 lines04:44
nosrednaekimhaha yeah04:44
BluesKajI watched the out put in the terminal but there was none04:44
mjunxthe next biggest looks like perltoc04:44
mjunxthen gcc again04:44
mjunx(different version)04:44
mjunxthen perlfunc04:44
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  it 'tries' to play.. but dosent play04:44
BluesKajDr_willis, it plays in windows ...direct X ?04:45
Bi||aBongwho i can see the others partition?04:45
Bi||aBonglinux partition04:45
Dr_willistry http://vidconverter.com/04:45
mjunxthen mplayer, bash, perldiag, zshcompsys, perl561delta, screen, perl58delta, nmap, perl56delta (notice a pattern?), xterm, perlglossary, and rsync04:45
Dr_willisif ya can figure otu the url04:45
mjunxso, it seems like perl actually has the most manpages04:46
mjunxer, biggest04:46
nosrednaekimBi||aBong: wht d you want to do?04:46
mjunxprobably followed by all the manpages for libc04:46
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mjunxnow to see how much power beryl wastes!04:46
Daisuke_Idobleh04:46
Daisuke_Idomjunx: not that much04:46
Daisuke_Idousing it right now, but not happily04:46
nosrednaekima million monekeys typing on a million keyboards will occasionally turn out a java program, but most of the time they just put out perl04:47
mjunxI mean like laptop battery04:47
nosrednaekimMjunx, what kind of lappy do you have?04:47
mjunxa vaio fs55004:47
mjunxfrom 2005 :)04:47
Bi||aBongi make 2 partition for programs and files, who i can see that?04:47
mjunxthey haven't made many (if any) new laptops since then04:47
Daisuke_Idoback to the old problem of no window decorations, with either aquamarine or emerald04:47
mjunxand amazingly, sony didn't screw up their batteries for their notebooks >_>04:48
Daisuke_Idobut at least it's not locking up now04:48
Bi||aBongin konqueror i can't see the others partitions04:48
nosrednaekimcould that be an alterior motive?04:48
mjunxand I just got a new battery yesterday (or two days ago), so it's time to see how long it lasts04:48
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mjunxwell, vaio notebooks are high-end and cost more than your typical dell PoS04:48
nosrednaekimBi||bong yu have to add them to you /etc/fstab04:48
mjunxso, they might have a vetted interest in maintaining that perception04:48
Daisuke_Idoi didn't thin they made the battteries for their own laptops04:48
BluesKajnaw, Dr_willis, that site doesn't convert it either04:48
nosrednaekimmjunx, yes...and quite a bit mre than this acer04:49
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mjunxthe battery is supposed to last 5+ hours (yeah right)04:49
mjunxbut it's still at 100%, so who knows04:50
nosrednaekimmjunx, core duo?04:50
mjunxno, pentium m04:50
mjunxthis is from 2005 lol04:50
nosrednaekimoh ok.. they are pretty good at abttery life i'ver heard04:50
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BluesKajdaughter bought a new laptop. Not knowing anything about them i assumed they come with a wallwart power convertor for use in the home04:51
mjunxyou live outside the states?04:52
mjunxwhere the power is double the frequency mwahaha04:52
BluesKajcanada04:52
Dr_willisHuh,, id hope a new laptop came with a power adaptor to charge it..04:52
BluesKajwe're 120V AC 60HZ04:52
mjunxso it didn't come with a brick?04:53
BluesKajno Dr_willis, can she run the laptop with an adapter ?04:53
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Dr_willisShe bought a NEw laptop. and it did not come with a powersupply for her to plug into the laptop  then to the wall?04:54
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Daisuke_Idookay, still nada in the beryl channel...  i want my window decoration :\04:54
mjunxhmm, maybe I have to reboot since I hotswapped this new battery04:54
Bi||aBong<nosrednaekim> Bi||bong yu have to add them to you /etc/fstab --> what i need to make that?04:54
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Dr_willisor are we refering to a 'univisal power adaptor' to use from one country to another?04:54
mjunxy'know what, brb, I'm gonna reboot to make sure04:54
mjunxon battery no less :)04:55
nosrednaekimyou have to edit your /etc/fstab04:55
nosrednaekimand add your two new partitions04:55
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: what kind of error messages is it printing out?04:55
nosrednaekim!fstab04:56
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:56
Bi||aBongwho i can edit /etc/fstab?04:56
BluesKajsorry for the confusion, i used the wrong terminology ...can she run the laptop with the charger plugged into the battery or does she need a seperate adapter that plugs in ?04:56
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Bi||aBongok04:56
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Dr_willisI plug the wall adaptor into the laptop and use mine all the time.. it charges while i work04:56
Dr_willisshe has a plug on the battery and on the laptop itself?04:57
Dr_willisive seen batteries that could be charged outside the laptop..04:57
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julle_What is the easiest way to share you internet connection with two network cards in one computer?04:58
BluesKajDr_willis,  i think she has the same setup as you do04:58
Dr_willisI mean its not rocket Surgery. :) plug the thing into the wall, plug the other end into the laptop.. power up.04:58
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peterman!dsc04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
peterman!.dsc04:59
BluesKajok, NP I'll tell her , cuz she was afraid to use it while plugged in.04:59
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Dr_willisGiven the idiot-proofing trend in the industry -  they proberly got the thing color coded and other things so ya cant do wrong.04:59
Dr_willisHeh04:59
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peterman!*.dsc04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Dr_williswhen plugged in it will proberly be running FASTER then on batteries alone.04:59
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peterman!.dsc04:59
Dr_willisdue to the powersabing-profiles04:59
Dr_willisHeh -- hay! adept updater  just sput out 'a new version of kubuntu is aviliable' :)05:00
Dr_willisdo i want to upgrade now.. :)05:01
Dr_willisdare i do it!05:01
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Dr_willisid just updated about 2 hrs ago even..05:01
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trombine_hi everybody05:01
Jucatoyou probably have the edgy-proposed repository05:02
trombine_is someone speaks french here please ?05:02
nosrednaekimDr_willis: thats going to fiesty isn't it?05:02
Dr_willisyes it is05:02
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Dr_willissome upgrade tool. :) must of been what was mentioned earlier05:02
nosrednaekim!french05:02
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:02
trombine_!french05:02
Dr_willisFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code05:02
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JucatoDr_willis: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade05:02
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Dr_willisthats a new feaure now to ask you to upgrade to the newest relase. :)05:03
Dr_willisi dont rember that in the dapper-edgy stuff05:03
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Cobra_Bubbleshiya05:03
JucatoDr_willis: yes it's a new app05:03
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Dr_willisspiffy.05:03
Dr_willisNow we can point all the noobs to it. :)05:04
Dr_willisnow if there was only one that would ask/verify/walk themn through the NTFS/ntfs-3g stuff05:04
Jucatoer.. not yet though05:04
nosrednaekimwhy is everything on kubuntu.org encrypted?05:04
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Dr_willisthat would eliminate 1/2 the questions on #ubuntu05:04
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Cobra_BubblesI don't know which build is better for me. Ubuntu or Kubuntu... I'm sick and frakking tired of Spyware05:05
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nosrednaekimeverybody here is going to reccomend kubuntu:-D05:05
Dr_willisCobra_Bubbles,  install one, then you can eaially nstall the other on top of it.05:05
Dr_willisi use them both on same machine.. at KDM i pick if i want to use gnome or kde.05:05
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Dr_williswhat could be easier. :)05:05
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Bi||aBongwho i can enable write access to save file?05:06
ben325e_cobra......... install ubuntu, then you can install kubuntu... .there is a great walkthrough at ubuntuforums.org.... then whenever you log in you can pick your session.05:06
jermain!backup05:06
Cobra_BubblesCool05:06
ben325e_that's what I'm doing right now, and I'm strongly favoring kubuntu05:06
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning05:06
Cobra_BubblesI downloaded the x64 build of 6.10 Ubuntu05:06
nosrednaekimBi||aBong: when you open itmake sure you so so as "sudo"05:06
Cobra_BubblesIt boots the kernel and everything but then jsut sits on a dark blue screen afterwards05:06
nosrednaekimCobra, do you have a 64but computer05:06
Dr_willisCobra_Bubbles,  you dont NEEX to use the x64 stuff on  64bit processors05:06
Cobra_Bubblesyes05:06
Cobra_BubblesArima W730-K8x05:06
Dr_willisdont NEED to ..:) the 32bit may work beter for you05:06
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jermainhow's everyone doing today :)05:07
nosrednaekimgood05:07
Cobra_Bubblesmay even get into an X system huh?05:07
jermainnice to hear05:07
ben325e_the x64 has difficulties with things like getting flash to work.  I have an athlon 3200 64 bit and I use the 32 bit... it flies!05:07
trombine_is someone can help a french to restore a lost piece of taskbar please ?05:07
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jermain[learningtrombine05:07
jermain[learningim no pro05:07
jermain[learningbut im willing to help05:08
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nosrednaekim!french > trombine_05:08
jermain[learningtrombine_: what happened to your taskbar?05:08
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Bi||aBongi have a file in Kate and i want save this but i don't have write access05:09
julle_!router05:09
trombine_jermain[learning: no french guy has answered yet so i ask in english here05:09
trombine_i'll try to explain : the taskbar down on the screen05:09
trombine_where appeared programms running05:09
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nosrednaekimBi||aBong: copy the whole file,do "kdesu kate" and paste it in the new kate05:09
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jermain[learningi know which one you mean05:10
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trombine_I've closed this by error i can't find it again05:10
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jermain[learningdid you do it in the settings somewhere?05:10
tarnoldmorning all05:10
trombine_and same for icons whitch shows progrmms running back like sound or wifi05:10
jermain[learninghi tarnold05:10
nosrednaekimtrombine: oh... your panel crashed?05:10
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trombine_no05:10
Cobra_Bubblesedubuntu-6.06.1-live-i386.iso    <--- This one?05:10
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: umm... don't get that unless you are below 15 years old05:11
trombine_i've just clic close but in the bad part of this bar. I wanted to close another part05:11
fernandogrub05:11
Cobra_BubblesEWWW... .edu ubuntu?05:11
fernando!grub05:11
fernando!# grub05:11
Cobra_BubblesYeah, I shall find a different build05:11
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orient2000Morning All! What is the diference between Edgy 6.10 and Ultimate 1.2 ?05:11
nosrednaekimtry kubuntu 6.10 i38605:11
orient2000http://ubuntusoftware.info/05:11
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jermain[learningtrombine_: ic, wait let me see if i can look in my settings for a way to put it back05:12
fernandohow can I reinstall my grub?? since is lose it after I have install windows vista05:12
fernandoany help???05:12
Cobra_Bubbleskubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso05:12
Cobra_Bubbles?05:12
tarnoldhow do i get headphones to work? i'm listening to music with amarok and when I plug the headphones in i still get sound from the speakers05:12
nosrednaekimfernando: are you in a live cd?05:12
stdin!grub05:12
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: yeah.. thats fine05:13
fernandoyes05:13
Cobra_BubblesAwesome05:13
fernandoI am05:13
jermain[learningtrombine_ try right click on your desktop05:13
Cobra_BubblesThe idea is to get a LIVE CD and if I can get all my devices working with it, remove Windows and install Kubuntu05:13
nosrednaekimok, what partiton is your ubuntu unstall on?05:13
jermain[learningthen hit configure desktop05:13
jermain[learningand hit default bottom left05:14
Cobra_BubblesI used to use Hoary Hedgehog LIVE on an old laptop that had a toasted IDE controller05:14
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jermain[learningdoes that help in anyway?05:14
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: you can put them side by side05:14
trombine_yes jermain[learning . next step ?05:14
stdinfernando: this is the help page on reinstalling grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:14
jermain[learningafter default, does it come back?05:14
fernandoI am not sure.. I have several partition on my hardisk.. so far C,D,E is windows, and the rest is linux, so.. F shoud be swap and I the linux data05:14
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trombine_no. i've ever been there but I didn't find05:14
jermain:(05:14
trombine_sorry :(05:15
trombine_sorry I've to go05:15
trombine_i'll find it05:15
jermainsorry, i coudnt be of more help05:15
trombine_thanks all of us05:15
jermainperhaps the forum?05:15
trombine_see ya05:15
jermainusually someone replies within 30 min05:15
jermainbye05:15
Cobra_Bubblesnosrednaekim: That's nice, but if Ubuntu works, and has packages to play MP3's and downlaod thigns via Bittorrent and Usenet, then I don't need Windows. I do have a desktop I am keeping Windows-based but only because it's basically just a network card and a hard drive05:15
trombine_ok jermain don't worry !05:15
nosrednaekimoh...ok05:15
Bi||aBonghow i can enable permition to write in file?05:16
nosrednaekim"sudo kate"05:16
nosrednaekimsorry..."kdesu kate"05:16
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jermainBi||abong: chmod05:16
stdinBi||aBong: depends what you want to wright to it, if it's just text, you can do: Alt-F2, kdesu kate /path/to/filename05:17
jermainbut i forgot with number is which right05:17
aladoes anyone know what happened to libdvdcss in feisty?05:17
jermain!chmod05:17
Cobra_BubblesAnd Kubuntu itself, hell Linux itself, doesn't lend itself nicely to running spyware?05:17
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nosrednaekimfernando: you need to find out what partiton ie hda 1,2,3,or four linux is on05:17
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BluesKajdoesn't spyware try to write to fat32 or ntfs registry?05:18
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stdinala: what do you mean?05:19
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orient2000Is any body using Ultimate 1.2 ?05:19
Cobra_BubblesWow... I had almsot forgotten how slow CAT5 cables are05:19
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alastdin:  i mean libdvdcss is not in multiverse.... shouldn't it be?05:19
nosrednaekimala: no... its illegal in the US, so they don't put it in there05:20
stdinala: no, it's never been in the ubuntu repos05:20
fernandonosrednaekim: I have only one hardisk, and the 3 first partition is windows.. so shoud be hda0,3 ??05:20
BluesKajCAT5 is fast enuff on my network05:20
mjunxcat5 can't do gigabit05:20
mjunxit can hardly get to 100 Mbps as it is05:21
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BluesKaj!libdvdcss05:21
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:21
nosrednaekimfernando: is swap after / in your partiton tree?05:21
nosrednaekimor don't you have swap?05:21
alasigh*05:21
alai just got bsg season 2...  i guess it time to hunt down to libraries...05:23
BluesKajso mjunx , what's the prob?05:23
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fernandoI found out..the command is "find /boot/grun/stage1"05:23
fernandois hd0,205:23
fernando:-)05:23
nosrednaekimwhat?05:23
mjunxBluesKaj, ever try transferring a DVD ISO over the network?05:23
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jeff_bonjour05:24
nosrednaekimjeff_ hello05:25
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Daisuke_Idoahhh05:25
Daisuke_Idofinally :D05:25
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: fixed it?05:25
Daisuke_Idoseems like it05:25
Daisuke_Idogot a suggestion to change the render path to copy05:26
Daisuke_Idothat gaev me my window decorations05:26
nosrednaekimcool05:26
nosrednaekimfernando, so is your ubuntu's / on hda4?05:26
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Daisuke_Idoall that's left now is to reinstall *all* of my software05:27
Daisuke_Idoi figured there was no point doing that until i had things working, eh?05:27
fernandonosrednaekim: I dont know..I can I know that?05:27
alainstall-css.sh script is not on my system...even though i have libdvdread installed05:27
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fernandonosrednaekim: how can I know that??05:27
nosrednaekimfdisk05:28
fernandoonly fdisk??05:28
nosrednaekimdo "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"05:28
fernandook..wait..05:28
nosrednaekimthen once in there, type "p enter" to print your partiton table05:28
fernandook05:28
nosrednaekimpastebin your partion table (or look for which one is ext3)05:29
fernandokubunto live is started again..1 second please :-)05:29
nosrednaekimfernando: what?05:29
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fernandonosrednaekim: the livecd is starting, wait a moment please05:30
nosrednaekimoh..ok05:30
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stdinala: just do "wget http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4_i386.deb && dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4_i386.deb"05:31
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alastdin:  i hope that comes in 64bit flavour...05:32
jermain!divx05:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:32
bobesponjahey05:32
panathospls, guys... there is a repository for cinelerra amd64?05:32
bobesponjahow can I make smbmnt suid root?05:32
panathosi'm using kubuntu05:32
nosrednaekimala: you have 64bit?05:32
alayeah05:32
eagles0513875i changed a setting in the system etting now it says there is an orphaned module how do i fix it05:32
nosrednaekim!cinelerra | panathos05:32
ubotupanathos: cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu05:32
panathosnosrednaekim: great! :-D thanks05:33
panathos!rar | panathos05:33
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eagles0513875i changed a setting in the system etting now it says there is an orphaned module how do i fix it05:34
panathosthis repo give me error05:34
panathosdeb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu64 ./05:34
panathoswhen i add to adept05:34
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nosrednaekimwhats the ./ at the end?05:34
nosrednaekimI think you have to have edgy or something else there05:34
panathosi don't know :-( it's write05:34
panathosi have edgy05:35
panathos6.1005:35
Bi||aBongi have two partition i want add this to fstab, what i need to make this?05:35
fernandonosrednaekim: are you still there???? I did it05:35
nosrednaekimyes05:35
panathoswith kernel 2.6.10.17 compiled today morning05:35
stdinala: ok, try "wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.deb && dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.deb"05:35
fernandonosrednaekim: I can see the table.. what is the information I need??05:35
nosrednaekimwhich one says the partition type is ext3?05:36
eagles0513875how do i get rid of an orphaned video module05:36
nosrednaekimor "linux"05:36
nosrednaekimpanathos: I'm not sure about that mirror problem...05:36
alastdin:  thanks05:36
fernandook..linux is hda305:36
jeff_y a t'il quelqu'un qui parle francais ?05:36
ForgeAuswhy isn't there a yellowbox for Linux?05:36
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Jucato!fr | jeff_05:36
ubotujeff_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:36
nosrednaekimok... now exit fdisk with "q"05:37
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fernandodone05:37
jeff_merci05:37
Aiwuuaff hello,how i can remove something with apt?05:37
fernandonosrednaekim: done05:37
nosrednaekimdo "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt"05:38
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fernandonosrednaekim: done05:38
nosrednaekimthen "sudo chroot /mnt"05:38
nosrednaekimand don't close that terminal...05:38
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Aiwuu...05:39
fernandodone05:39
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nosrednaekimok05:39
nosrednaekimnow, this will disable access to vista for the time being...is that ok?05:39
Dr_willisheh - aparently the upgrade manager tool.. still needs some work.05:39
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nosrednaekimfernando: now, this will disable access to vista for the time being...is that ok?05:40
fernandoso far later I can select any OS I want start is ok05:40
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nosrednaekimok...05:40
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MementoMorihi05:41
MementoMori!compiz05:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:41
eagles0513875i found out that u have to install ubuntu first and vista 2nd other wise vista wont work05:41
fernandonosrednaekim: now what???05:41
nosrednaekimfernando: run this command "grub-install /dev/hda"05:41
fernandoat the same terminal??05:42
nosrednaekimyes05:42
eagles0513875how do i get rid of an orphaned video module05:42
fernandonosrednaekim: done, no error reporeted :-)05:42
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nosrednaekimok reboot05:42
fernandook05:43
nosrednaekimyou chould be able to get into linux now05:43
nosrednaekimbut probably not vista05:43
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fernandois ok.05:43
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nosrednaekimok.. then reboot05:43
eagles0513875i changed a setting in the system etting now it says there is an orphaned module how do i fix it05:43
nosrednaekim!vista05:43
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org05:43
fernandois rebooting... now...Is any way to get vista back in grub right???05:44
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nosrednaekimoh yeah....I'm pretty sure05:44
Dr_williseventually :)05:44
eagles0513875reinstall it and it will automatically appear05:44
eagles0513875how do i get rid of an orphaned video module05:44
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Dr_willisor edit the grub menu.lst file for a proper entry05:44
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eagles0513875or load the original x.org config05:44
nosrednaekimx.org? that has nothing to do with this05:44
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fernandonosrednaekim: my grub list is back..:-)05:44
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eagles0513875why do i have an orphaned video module05:45
fernandonosrednaekim: now I can see windows xp 64 bits..05:45
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nosrednaekimcan you boot that? it might be visat05:45
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guidenhow do I switch between desktops?05:45
nosrednaekimguiden: what do you mean?05:45
fernandoI will try..wait.. :-)05:45
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eagles0513875i changed some video setting in the settings area but it some how messed things up05:45
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guidenI mean05:45
guidenWhat is the keyboard command to switch between desktops05:46
voicuwhoa, they changed the ktorrent ui?05:46
fernandoyes :-) did't work..only the name is wrong...05:46
nosrednaekimvitrula desktops in x?05:46
Dr_willisguiden,  i use the mouse wheel. :)05:46
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guidenI don't like using the mouse :)05:46
Dr_willisBlasphmy!05:46
guidenit slows me down05:46
eagles0513875lol05:46
voicucan't i change it back?05:46
nosrednaekimfernando: so you can't boot vista?05:47
scottyWhen I try to apt-get something, I get this error:05:47
scottyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:47
kameshguiden@ you can configure the keyboard shortcuts from the control panel and use whatever you want05:47
scottyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:47
scottyHow do I fix it?05:47
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Dr_willisscotty,  close any other processes....05:47
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | scotty05:47
stdinscotty: do you have adept/synaptic open?05:47
ubotuscotty: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:47
fernandonosrednaekim: yes..did it work..:-) I need only update the name, because at the moment I have "xp" and shoud be vista05:47
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nosrednaekimeh.. don't worry about that.. but if you must... edit the menu.lst05:47
fernandonosrednaekim: thnks a lot!!! :-), do you know how to update the name list??05:47
eagles0513875can anybody help me05:47
nosrednaekimyes05:48
fernandonosrednaekim: where is that file??05:48
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nosrednaekim"kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"05:48
nosrednaekimbe careful!!05:48
scottyThanks nosrednaekim05:48
eagles0513875i went into the settings and changed some video settings and then changed them back but for some reason it keeps sayint there is an orphaned video module how do i get rid of it so i can get higher resolution05:48
nosrednaekimeagles0513875: I don't think anyone here can hep you... try #ubuntu05:49
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eagles0513875nos even if this is kubuntu that im running05:49
nosrednaekimyeah... go over to ubuntu, its the same thing05:50
stdineagles0513875: you can also ask in #xorg if no one in #ubuntu knows05:50
panathospls... if i download a .deb package, how install it with apt?05:50
stdin!deb | panathos05:50
ubotupanathos: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:50
eagles0513875ok thanks st05:50
panathosno problems with dependance??05:50
nosrednaekimthere can be....05:51
eagles0513875can anybody tell me y im banned on the ubuntu channel05:51
stdinpanathos: if there is, just run "sudo apt-get -f install05:51
nosrednaekimummmm were you ever on it?05:51
fernandonosrednaekim: thanks a lot!!!05:51
stdinpanathos: opps, "sudo apt-get -f install"05:51
nosrednaekimfernando: you are welcome05:51
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nosrednaekimhave fun.... kubuntu is better than Vista though...;)05:52
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eagles0513875i had ubuntu on here until i put kubuntu on here05:52
eagles0513875i havent been on that channel for a really long time05:52
nosrednaekimwell then I don't kow why you are banned...05:53
eagles0513875that just makes me mad05:53
Dr_willisoverly broad ban mask is my guess05:53
nosrednaekimchange you username or something05:53
eagles0513875?05:53
eagles0513875what do u mean dr05:53
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Dr_willisthey baned someone with a similer ip/host or somthing05:53
Jucatoeagles0513875: please ask in #ubuntu-ops05:54
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eagles0513875ok ty jucato05:54
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nosrednaekimdr_willis..how did the upgrade to fiest go?05:54
Saillehi05:54
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stdineagles0513875: looks like your host was banned by gnomefreak on 25/02/07 18:38:12 (server time)05:55
Saillekennst sich jmd mit dem irc programm konversation aus? ich bekomm xdcc nicht zum laufen :(05:56
stdin!de05:56
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:56
eagles0513875what u mean by host05:57
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Saillesry05:57
linuxbombI have a intel 64bit dual processor and was wondering if I should compile a 64 bit kernel?  I installed kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp, but it fails at boot05:57
stdineagles0513875: your hostname, rrcs-71-41-194-65.sw.biz.rr.com05:57
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eagles0513875was banned05:57
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stdinlinuxbomb: why 2.4.27 ???05:57
stdineagles0513875: yeah05:58
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TheGateKeeperdvd+rw-tools is a package that has appeared for upgrade, but is dependent on genisoimage, but that is not in the repos, what is going on?05:58
eagles0513875OK05:58
linuxbombstdin: that is what the latest was in my apt-cache05:58
stdinlinuxbomb: no chance05:59
stdinlinuxbomb: search for, linux-image05:59
stdinlinuxbomb: search for, not kernel-image05:59
stdin!info genisoimage05:59
ubotuPackage genisoimage does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:59
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TheGateKeeperdoesn't exist in dapper either06:00
stdinTheGateKeeper: what does "apt-cache policy dvd+rw-tools" show ?06:00
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nosrednaekimfernando, you still around?06:01
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panathoswhy libguicast is not installable on kubuntu amd64?06:02
TheGateKeeper7.0-6~dapper1 0        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages  *** 5.21.4.10.8-4ubuntu1 0         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status06:02
TheGateKeeperstdin: ^^^^06:02
orient2000Is any body using Ultimate 1.2 ?06:03
orient2000What is the diference between Edgy 6.10 and Ultimate 1.2 ?06:04
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linuxbombstdin: so I should be using linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic for a dual core 64bit system?06:04
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stdinlinuxbomb: yeah, the -generic ones automatically configure themselves for your cpu06:05
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linuxbombthanks06:05
xanithIs there any way to make everything in KDE not so huge? i swear i open a folder and it almost takes up the whole screen. I feel like i'm in 800x600 but i'm running in 1680x1050.06:05
stdinTheGateKeeper: report that as a bug, the package "genisoimage" is available in feisty, but not edgy/dapper (as far as I can see)06:05
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Xanithlol sorry about that accidentally closed konversation06:06
TheGateKeeperohh ok thanx stdin06:07
eagles0513875how do i load the origianl xorg cfg06:07
Xanithis there any way though?06:07
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Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:08
julleI have a Creative Audigy 2 Platinum ex soundcard. And using the snd_usb_audio, emu10k1 driver. Is there any better way to increase the "bass" other than use the KMixer and alsamixer?06:08
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jermain_hmm hey guys, kftpgrabber, when i quick connect06:08
jermain_what do i put in URL?06:08
nosrednaekimxanith: what exacly do you want it to do?06:08
jermain_oops nvm i think its working06:09
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orient2000!ultimate06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ultimate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
eagles0513875!resolution06:11
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:11
Xanithnosrednaekim: i just want windows and icons and text and stuff to not be huge lol06:11
stdinorient2000: whatever "Ultimate 1.2" is, it's not an official ubuntu distribution06:11
Xanithnosrednaekim: in windows (ugh), i had a LOT more workspace room06:11
nosrednaekimare you sure you are running at the right res?06:11
Xanithnosrednaekim: yes, my monitor even identifys that it is operating at 1680x1050 @ 75hz06:12
nosrednaekimok06:12
JucatoeXistenZ: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:12
orient2000Thanks.06:12
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nosrednaekimxanith,mess around with icon sizes and all, there is no one way to configure all that06:13
Xanithnosrednaekim: hmm, ok i guess i'll try to play around with it.06:13
nosrednaekimyeah...06:13
Xanithnosrednaekim: by the way, i was wondering, i was looking last night is it worth my time to upgrade to kubuntu 6.1.0?06:13
Xanithnosrednaekim: i'm running 6.0.6 right now06:13
nosrednaekimXanith.. probably is...06:14
nosrednaekimits much beter06:14
nosrednaekimthere can be problems upgrading though06:14
stdinXanith: well, 6.10 has newer packages, and some more features, like aiglx, but dapper (6.06) has long term support06:15
nosrednaekimif you have everything working good, don't06:15
eXistenZJucato: Do you know a on-click dictionary for linux? (babylon-like)?06:15
Xanithhmm, it's all working fine so far as i know06:15
Xanithexcept i would like to get kde 3.5.606:15
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Xanithi'm running kde 3.406:15
JucatoeXistenZ: kdict? not really sure06:16
nosrednaekimthats kinda....old06:16
eXistenZJucato: Does it have on-click feature?06:16
Xanithyea and i couldn't figure out how to get it to update kde06:16
nosrednaekimyeah...you can upgrade..06:16
Xanithhow?06:16
nosrednaekimthere isn;t an update for dapper06:16
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JucatoeXistenZ: not really sure what you mean by on-click06:16
Xanithso if i stay with dapper im stuck with kde 3.4?06:17
nosrednaekimyes06:17
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Xaniththat's one thing i kinda don't like about kubuntu, it seems like it's kinda tied down a lot more than gentoo was06:17
Xanithlike i can only download what they approve06:17
Xanithgentoo was like i could download whatever i wanted06:17
nosrednaekimXanith: very true06:17
nosrednaekimbut you can also be garunteed it won't break anything06:18
Xanithlol06:18
Malixyo. any ideas? we just got a new soundcard, and it just speaks digital to us (hissing, loud hissing when ever a sound is played). how do I make it ouput analog signal?06:18
eXistenZJucato: For example, you click on a word, and it gets translated.06:18
Xanithis there another distro of linux that isn't so tied down but like kubuntu?06:18
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nosrednaekimXanith, you just have to upgrade to edgy...06:19
Xanithbecause i'm starting to notice it seems like a lot of settings and stuff are kinda hidden by kubuntu, and i don't like that06:19
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nosrednaekimXanith why did you leave gentoo?06:19
JucatoeXistenZ: ah.. hm...sorry, no idea06:19
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JucatoeXistenZ: try looking into kbabel06:19
Xanithnosrednaekim: well, i actually left gentoo to go back to windows because i had a recent game addiction06:19
nosrednaekimoh..ok06:19
Xanithnosrednaekim: i just recently decided to go back to linux06:20
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Xanithnosrednaekim: when i tried to install gentoo, the new livecd wasn't working, after trying it 3 times, i got fed up with it06:20
Xanithnosrednaekim: so therefore i pulled out my old kubuntu 6.0.6 cd06:20
nosrednaekimahhh ok...06:20
nosrednaekim you could try out sabayon06:20
nosrednaekimwhich is an easy to install gentoo06:20
nosrednaekimand pretty cutting edge too06:21
Xanithnosrednaekim: whats the difference between the two?06:21
nosrednaekimsabayon and gentoo?06:21
Xanithyea06:21
nosrednaekimwell sabayon is built on gentoo unstable06:22
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nosrednaekimit has beryl XGL AIGLX all built in06:22
nosrednaekimand it has a nice, easy to use installer06:22
nosrednaekimbut its gentoo underneath06:22
eXistenZJucato: when will it be updated in the official ubuntu repos?06:23
ubuntu_I've seen it running. Looks very nice.06:23
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Xanithnosrednaekim: hmm sounds interesting, i may give it a try then06:23
Xanithi know im not too happy with kubuntu though06:24
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nosrednaekimyeah..I'd use it except it has some problems on thsi computer06:24
Xanithwow 3.4gb dvd huh? lol06:24
Gh0st75i'm happy with kubuntu, will definately be using it as my main os, but will still experiment with other live cds, abayon one i'd really like to try06:24
JucatoeXistenZ: what do you mean?06:24
Gh0st75er sabayon i mean06:24
nosrednaekimI'm using it  on a desktop06:24
trombinejermain_: i'm back !!06:24
Xanithnosrednaekim: well i'm running an AMD Athlon 64 system, it wouldn't have a problem with it would it/06:24
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nosrednaekimXanith, Nope...06:25
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Xanithnosrednaekim: back when i built this computer in 2001, linux had a lot of problems with it06:25
trombineand I still don't know how to make back this *** of bar !06:25
nosrednaekimtheir 64 bit support is the best i;ve ever seen06:25
Xanithnosrednaekim: seems like they've all been worked out now though06:25
Gh0st75still some issues with 64 bit flash i think, but most other 64 bit issues appear resolved06:25
nosrednaekimwhat?06:25
eXistenZJucato: I mean when will kde 3.5.6 be updated in the official kubuntu repos?06:25
akrus_!webcam06:25
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:25
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JucatoeXistenZ: it is in the official **kubuntu** respos already. didn't you read the link I gave?06:26
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Gh0st75my webcam isn't supported, gave up on tryin to get it workin in either vista or kubuntu06:26
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Xanithnosrednaekim: when i built this system years ago linux had some major issues with it, seems like all the bugs have been worked out06:26
Xanithnosrednaekim: i had a lot of driver issues and stuff back then06:26
LaNCeloT_RWhi ppl, how do I install JAVA via apt-get?06:26
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Dr_willis!java06:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:26
Xanithnosrednaekim: the only driver issue i've noticed so far was that my temperature sensors don't seem to be working06:26
Dr_willissudo apt-get  install sun-java5-jre06:27
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nosrednaekimXanith: ok.. thats good06:27
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Jucato(Dr_willis, sun-java6-jre is out already too :)06:27
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Dr_willisim waiting for java9 :)06:27
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Gh0st75i installed java 6 yesterday, works fine06:28
stdineXistenZ: it's default for feisty now, and it may go in to edgy-backports after feisty is released06:28
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LaNCeloT_RWDr_willis, i typed that, but it returns an error: Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:28
LaNCeloT_RWThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:28
LaNCeloT_RWis only available from another source06:28
LaNCeloT_RWE: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate06:28
Jucatostdin: er no...06:28
robertohi - i'm old to linux, new to kubuntu.  I'd like to add restricted/community respositories.  All docs on the web say that synaptic will have an ADD button that gives me these options, but it doesn't06:28
LaNCeloT_RWsorry!!! i forgot about paste bin06:28
robertohow can i add restricted/community?06:28
guidenCan I use the mouse as one of the key shortcuts?06:28
Gh0st75try jdk, instead of jre, that's what i used06:28
Dr_willisfrom the !Multiverse repository.06:28
stdin!repos | LaNCeloT_RW, roberto06:28
ubotuLaNCeloT_RW, roberto: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:28
eXistenZJucato: I had to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main to my sources list to get it updated. It is not in the ubuntu repos list06:28
guidenI mean, I want to switch windows by  pressing ctrl and scrolling06:28
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nosrednaekimare you running beryl guiden?06:29
JucatoeXistenZ: it's an official ***KUBUNTU*** repository06:29
jermain_trombine: sorry for the late reply06:29
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jermain_did you solve it?06:29
guidennosrednaekim:I don't know06:29
trombinejermain_: don't mind06:29
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trombineso jermain_ have you na any idea how to fix it ?06:29
nosrednaekimguiden: oh..NM.06:29
Cobra_Bubblesa??06:30
stdinJucato: thought he meant official as in archive.ubutnu.com, not kubuntu.org06:30
Cobra_BubblesOh, good06:30
JucatoeXistenZ: for some technical reasons, KDE, KOffice, and Amarok updates are not put into the archive.ubuntu.com repositories06:30
jermain_none what so ever :/06:30
Cobra_BubblesI am in Kubuntu now06:30
jermain_do you remember in which screen you were06:30
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: 6.10?06:30
Jucatostdin: kubuntu.org is an official Kubuntu repository.  as far as it is concerned, it is official06:30
jermain_or which button you accidently hit?06:30
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nosrednaekimguiden, you can configure that in kcontrol-> keyboard-> shortcuts06:30
Jucatostdin: and KDE updates are not backported at all. it may change in the future however, but not likely soon06:30
Cobra_BubblesNow I just need to figure out how to set up my Wifi06:31
stdinJucato: then kubuntu.org should be in the sources.list on a kubuntu install06:31
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: this is 6.10?06:31
robertoubotu: thanks.  are there other mirrors that might be faster?  i'm not getting good speeds from them and i have fiber06:31
eagles0513875how do i load default xorg cfg06:31
stdinroberto: ubotu is a bot, he can't respond06:31
Jucatostdin: probably. but for some reason, it doesn't.06:32
robertostdin: i just found that out :)06:32
Cobra_BubblesYeah06:32
Cobra_Bubbles6.10...currently LIVE06:32
nosrednaekimok, well what wifi chipset are you using?06:32
Cobra_BubblesIf I can sucessfully get my Wifi enabled (I know it's wifi0) then I will make the switch06:32
Cobra_BubblesIt's a Broadcom wifi06:32
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nosrednaekimiwconfig shows it?06:33
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trombineyes i know what i've done06:33
nosrednaekim!xorg reconfigure06:33
ubotuxorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB06:33
nosrednaekim!xorgproblems06:33
stdin!xconfig06:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgproblems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:33
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes06:33
sidnelsoni want install the gnome envoriment to try, i only need execute sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment ?06:34
nosrednaekimthatnk you stdin06:34
stdinnosrednaekim: :-)06:34
trombineon the little "stuff" appear a list where i can remove, close or add services on this bar06:34
Cobra_BubblesThe system is a laptop... Arima W730-k8x06:34
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ForgeAushey Jucato you there?06:34
trombinei've close one i wouln'd remove06:34
nosrednaekimno, run " sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop"06:34
stdinsidnelson: take off the "-environment" part06:34
ForgeAuswhats the Kubuntu distribution upgrade tool? and how do I run it?06:34
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JucatoForgeAus:the new one?06:34
sidnelsonstdin: thanks06:34
JucatoI'm having problems w/ it myself.. but mostly repo/package problems...06:35
ForgeAus(Adept is suddenly telling me feisty's availble and to install it via the distro upgrade tool but it doesn't seem to be on the kmenu and I don't know the commandline to run it)06:35
ForgeAusyes the new one06:35
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: try "iwconfig" and see what it says bout your wireless06:35
ForgeAusI think its installed it ok the wizard just tells me to quit adept and run the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool06:36
JucatoForgeAus: you probably have edgy-proposed repo...06:36
ForgeAus(but like I just said I have no idea about how to run that)06:36
Cobra_BubblesIt's eth0... Broadcom 431806:36
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ForgeAusI did but I think I turned that off06:36
ForgeAusyou told me to remember?06:36
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ForgeAusit did download something and I assume it installed it06:37
Cobra_Bubbleseth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"06:37
JucatoForgeAus: yeah... I'm having troubles here too....06:37
Cobra_BubblesRight now I just have a LAN cable running into it06:37
JucatoForgeAus: I'm gonna wait for monday though...06:37
ForgeAuswell I wouldn't call it a trouble, more that its just something I'm not aware of...06:37
ForgeAus(what the kubuntu distribution update tool IS other than the name of a program ....06:38
Cobra_Bubbleswow this KDE encironment is sexy06:38
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: looks good....06:38
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ForgeAushehe Cobra, yeah its nice uh?06:38
Cobra_Bubblesnosrednaekim: How can I get it to connect to wifi then, just unplug the LAN?06:38
nosrednaekimno....06:38
nosrednaekimtry this first....06:38
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Cobra_Bubblescause as it is, it sees NO SSID06:38
nosrednaekim"ifconfig"06:38
eagles0513875cobra is it built in cuz i have a log i can send for a broadcom internal wifi06:39
nosrednaekimif eth0 is on the list, tell me06:39
Vincent_kI had to enable ssid boarcast to get my wifi card to connect06:39
Cobra_Bubbleseth1 and lo06:39
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Cobra_Bubblesno eth006:39
nosrednaekimok.. say "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"06:39
Cobra_Bubbleseagles0513875: The sounds about right06:39
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eagles0513875ok then ill send u the log06:40
eagles0513875it was a real pain in the *** to get it configed and working06:40
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Cobra_BubblesKonsole returns:  SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory06:40
eagles0513875cobra register ur sn so we can chat and send the file06:40
Cobra_Bubblesright06:41
Cobra_Bubblesregged06:41
nosrednaekimwell... Cobra_Bubbles good luck.. I have to go...06:41
Cobra_Bubblesthanks for everything nosrednaekim06:41
nosrednaekimyou are welcome...06:41
Cobra_Bubbleseagles0513875: I am ready06:41
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eagles0513875i ran this command to reconfig x sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i still cang get a better res06:42
eagles0513875!register |cobra06:42
ubotucobra: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:42
Cobra_BubblesI already registered it06:42
eagles0513875ok06:42
eagles0513875interesting06:43
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Cobra_Bubbles?06:43
eagles0513875i think pms r down06:43
eagles0513875can u accept the transfer06:43
Dr_williseagles0513875,  you installed the proper video card drivers for your card?06:44
TheGateKeeperstdin: I created a file called /etc/apt/preferences with this in it http://pastebin.ca/389331 & that fixed the problem06:44
Cobra_BubblesI just heard a sound!06:44
eagles0513875i went in and changed settings from the display section of the system settings06:44
Dr_willis*bloop*06:44
LaNCeloT_RWI've already uncomment the multiverse and back-ports line of the sources list... but I still get erros on the installation of javaRE06:44
LaNCeloT_RWany idea?06:44
eagles0513875it was fine before i went in and started play with stuff06:44
Cobra_BubblesOh wow, multiple desktops06:45
Dr_williseagles0513875,  thers a way each user can have their own videosetting. try making a new user. see if theur settings are fine.06:45
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Cobra_Bubbleseagles0513875: what model is your system, or is it a scratchbuild?/06:45
eagles0513875wait i think i  got it06:45
stdinTheGateKeeper: yeah, that's one way :P, did you still report the bug tho?06:45
eagles0513875its a compaq persario r 4012us06:45
eagles0513875i think i fixed it give me a min06:45
Cobra_Bubbleshrm06:45
Cobra_BubblesNo Compaq isn't the same OEM...okay06:46
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Cobra_BubblesI know Arima sold this model to every OEM distributor under the sun06:46
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Cobra_BubblesBought mine as a eMachines computer, it came with a Gateway screen built in and a Gateway BIOS06:46
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eagles0513875nm still cant change tes06:46
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Cobra_BubblesEagle try sending again?//06:47
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eagles0513875i still cant change it and i have a -13785 hz refresh rate and i cant change that either06:47
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eagles0513875let me restart the x and see if that does anything ill brb06:48
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Cobra_BubblesI'll just... Try something here... BRB06:49
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stamenhi06:50
whippyyo06:50
stamenwhy when I compile this kernel 2.6.2006:51
stamenit can;t load the modules06:51
eagles0513875resolution is back to normal now i just had to restart the x06:51
AxlRosestamen: did you do make && make modules_install06:51
stamenthe kernel can;t load the modules06:51
stamenno06:51
stamenwhen should I do this06:51
TheGateKeeperstdin: nope, problem is fixed06:51
AxlRosestamen:  because thats how you do it on every other Distro but not debian/ubuntu06:52
stamenI am with Kubuntu06:52
AxlRosestamen: did u follow a guide?06:52
TheGateKeeperstdin: off to eat catch you again & thanx06:52
stdinTheGateKeeper: cya06:52
stamenAxlRose: no, I have just downloaded the new kernel from kernel.org06:52
stamenAxlRose: could you give me the link06:53
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AxlRosestamen: sure thing06:54
AxlRosestamen:  http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu06:54
alan__Espaol, por favor.06:54
stdin!es06:54
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:54
alan__ty06:54
eXistenZJucato: What does one have to add a new repos address for every program upgrade in kubuntu? Why a separate one for amarok?06:54
stamenAxlRose: 10x a lot06:54
AxlRosestamen: not a problem06:55
TheInfinityeXistenZ: because amarok is a very special installation, its also out of the usual KDE release order06:55
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TheInfinityyou dont need this, but if you want to have the really latest version you have to add new repos06:55
JucatoeXistenZ: you only need those separate repos for KDE, KOffice, and Amarok upgrades. that's all06:55
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casahola06:56
TheInfinityJucato: you dont even need them, you just need them if you want to have really the latest version06:56
JucatoTheInfinity: I know that06:57
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TheInfinitywas mainly for eXistenZ ;)06:57
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linuxbombanyone have troubles with blender crashing?07:01
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InnosenseMy os has been crashing, whats blender?07:02
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Cobra_Bubbleshrm07:02
Cobra_BubblesIf I could get my Wireless Assistant to look at eth0 instead of eth107:02
Cobra_BubblesI'd be able to conenct via wifi07:03
InnosenseCan anyone walk me through -in the command line- how to reset my display properties back to their original state (I tried to run another monitor off of my laptop), so that x won't crash every time it tries to start up?07:03
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linuxbombInnosense: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:04
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Innosense1st) could you explain a little bit what that does? (I'm trying to learn as much as I can about how the command line works) 2nd) it says it needs to be run as root07:05
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nosrednaekimprefix a :sudo" to that command to run as root07:05
Innosenseokay - I got it to work with sudo07:05
nosrednaekim"sudo"07:05
linuxbombInnosense: dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures software packages xserver-xorg is your X server07:05
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Innosenseokay I'm at the configuation of xserver and its giving me some options for differnt x server drivers...07:06
Innosensehow do I know which is hte correct one?07:06
nosrednaekimInnosense: good to see someone trying to learn something...most poepl just ant help07:06
Cobra_BubblesOkay, how does one go about getting Wifi Assistant to look at eth0 instead of eth1?07:06
stdinInnosense: check if there is a backup, like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200703101400 (in form of xorg.conf.YearMonthDayHourMins)07:06
Innosense I don't know how to do that, or what to do with those things you wrote...07:07
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linuxbombInnosense: what video card do you have?07:08
InnosenseI don't know on this computer, kunbuntu configured all of that automatically the first time through...there must be a way to check it07:08
nosrednaekimlspci07:09
nosrednaekim^^run that07:09
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linuxbombyeah run lspci07:09
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Innosensewhats lspci?07:09
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nosrednaekimits a program to list all devices in your computer07:09
Innosenseokay, one sec, I need to get out of this configuation07:10
SkullerInnosense: the running of that command as root is done by adding the word 'sudo' in the beginning of the command....07:10
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nosrednaekimInnosense: you can open another konsole07:11
duane_hello07:11
BacwardsDownhello07:11
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duane_How is everyone today07:11
nosrednaekimduane_: good..fine07:11
BacwardsDownvery good :-)07:11
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stdinnosrednaekim: "list all devices in your computer" ??07:12
LaNCeloT_RWwhich is the command to test my nvidia driver? installed via apt-get nvidia-glx ?? something like "nvgears "07:12
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: glxgears07:12
nosrednaekimstdin: was there something wrong with that?07:12
Cobra_BubblesOkay I am losing it07:12
stdinnosrednaekim: yeah, it doesn't list all the devices on your computer, just pci devices07:13
nosrednaekimright... sorry07:13
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: whats the mater?07:13
stdinnosrednaekim: it won't list your CPU, or your disks etc..07:13
InnosenseIs there any way to exit this configuration screen...I really don't know a lot of the answers to these questions...07:13
nosrednaekimInnosene, did you try lspci yet?07:14
stdinInnosense: most things you can leave the default07:14
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InnosenseI'm still in the configuration part, I need to get back tot he command before I do lspci07:15
nosrednaekimoh..ok.. sorry07:15
Cobra_Bubblesl07:15
Cobra_BubblesHello?07:15
duane_Anyone know where I can get a VPN  client for kubuntu07:15
stdin!vpn07:15
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD07:15
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: whats the trouble?07:15
duane_thanks u07:15
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BacwardsDownis ubotu a bot or what?07:16
Dr_willis!bot07:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:16
nosrednaekimyeah07:16
Dr_willisyes, L(07:16
BacwardsDownah i see07:16
nosrednaekim!botsnack07:16
ubotuYum!07:16
Innosenseokay I just ran lspci - and I have a huge list of things...what should I be looking for?07:16
Dr_willis!botsnuggle07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnuggle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
Cobra_BubblesI can't get eth0 to enable07:16
Cobra_Bubblesit enables for maybe half a second then disables again07:17
ben325ecan Konversation automatically show more than one server in the server list?07:17
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ben325eall I get is ubuntu irc... what about freenode etc07:17
Dr_willisben325e,  i had it showing several over on the sidebar.07:17
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: that means it can't find a hotspot,,07:17
Dr_willisfreenode IS the same as ubuntu.irc07:17
stdinben325e: you have to add the servers, there isn't a default list07:17
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nosrednaekiminnosense run "lspci | grep VGA"07:18
Dr_Willis_konverWee!07:18
ben325eso I need to know ip of efnet servers for examples?07:18
nosrednaekimthat searches  the output of lspci for VGA07:18
Dr_Willis_konverben325e:  no - you need to knwo their names.07:18
Dr_Willis_konvernot the ip07:18
stdinben325e: no, just the hostname07:18
ben325egotcha... thx07:18
Dr_Willis_konverie: irc.efnet.com  or similer07:18
Cobra_BubblesOkay so... What the hell... I give it the SSID to look for07:18
Innosensewhat does the | grep vga mean?07:19
BacwardsDownthe bot ubotu gives an error when I try to register07:19
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stdinBacwardsDown: you don't register with ubotu07:19
Dr_willisBacwardsDown,  register for what?07:19
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nosrednaekimInnosense: that searches  the output of lspci for VGA07:19
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Dr_willis - /msg nickserv help07:19
nosrednaekimwhich is the line for your video cars07:19
Innosenseummm07:19
mortiferahi everybody07:19
Dr_willisbye all07:19
BacwardsDown-> /msg ubotu register <nickname> <password>07:19
BacwardsDownsays the guide07:19
Innosenseit just lost me the command line07:19
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Dr_willisBacwardsDown,  what guide says to use ubotu?07:19
BacwardsDownhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:19
Innosensenow its just a blank line which won't execute code...07:19
eagles0513875i got a ? for some reason soundkonverter wont let me convert wma's after i copy them from my ntfs partition to this linux one07:20
mortiferahow can i get w32 codecs for a amd64?07:20
aj_anyone know what this error means when i try to mount in konqueror07:20
Dr_willisheh - never seen a need to do that with ubntu07:20
Innosensehow do I get my :~$ back?07:20
Dr_willis!win32codecs07:20
temoaq ra xdebbba?07:20
aj_hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100007:20
Dr_willisInnosense,  the command hasent returned yet then.07:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
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Innosenseso I can't do anything?07:20
stdinmortifera: you can't get it for amd6407:20
Dr_willisInnosense,  could hit control C :)07:20
Innosenseyay!07:20
Cobra_BubblesOkay...I am pissed at this07:20
Dr_willisInnosense,  cluld also read a few bash/shell tutorials... that may be a good idea07:21
Innosensethat totally works, and its good to know07:21
nosrednaekimCobra_Bubbles: take it easy07:21
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mortiferatks ubotu07:21
nosrednaekimgo look up a tutorial on wireless networking07:21
Innosenseyeah I was looking for some, but then I realized that first I just wanted to get my computer working again.07:21
Innosense...which I still don't know how07:21
stdinBacwardsDown: if you want to register with ubotu, ask in #ubuntu-bots07:21
albertare there any signs of better linux support by amd-ati?07:21
aj_so noboby has seen this error before ? : hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100007:21
BacwardsDownstdin: k, thanks07:21
Innosenseokay, I just ran slpci grep vga07:22
nosrednaekimalbert: nope07:22
eagles0513875i got a ? for some reason soundkonverter wont let me convert wma's after i copy them from my ntfs partition to this linux one07:22
Innosenseand it gave me a whole bunch of options...which I don't know what to do with...07:22
nosrednaekimoutput Innosense?07:22
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nosrednaekimno Innosense "lspci | grep vga"07:23
nosrednaekimveritical pipe, not "i"07:23
Innosenseoh07:23
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Innosensewhen I type that in with the vertical pipe it doesn't do anything07:24
Innosenseit just gives me a new command line.07:24
Innosenselike if I had just pressed enter.07:24
nosrednaekimok...07:24
nosrednaekimright...07:24
nosrednaekimoh... osrry make it a capital "VGA"07:24
stdineagles0513875: are they DRM? and have you got ffmpeg or mplayer installed?07:24
eagles0513875no most of them rnt drm07:25
Innosenseah! nvidia corporation nv1107:25
nosrednaekimok.... good07:25
eagles0513875ok ill install those now07:25
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Skamanhi guys there's anybody that uses the USR5422 wireless usb key?07:25
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Innosenseback into the configuration menu?07:25
nosrednaekimyeah... adn select the "nv" driver07:26
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stdineagles0513875: sountKonverter can use either mplayer or ffmpeg to decode wma (as long as they aren't "protected")07:26
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eagles0513875oh ok im installing them now07:26
Pupeno3Can anyone try https://secure.cacert.org and/or http://wiki.cacert.org ?07:26
Pupeno3I can't reach them.07:26
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eagles0513875ty for the help st07:27
BacwardsDownyup they load07:27
martonI can reach the 1st.07:27
eagles0513875stdin is there any pkg that can crack the drm07:27
BacwardsDownthough I needed to accept something for the second page07:27
Innosensehow do I know my video card's bus identifier... or should I just leave that at the default that its already set?07:27
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nosrednaekimleave it at default07:28
stdineagles0513875: not that I know of07:28
tarnoldok hi all im back, i still can't play sound through my headphones- it only comes through the speakers07:28
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eagles0513875ok ill let u know if that works stdin07:28
mortiferawhat do i have to include in my source.list to acced to w32 codecs? i'm trying to get peertv on my amd64..07:29
stdineagles0513875: the only way (I know) to get rid of the drm, is to burn the files to a disk (as an audio disk), then re-rip the sound07:29
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nosrednaekim!w3207:29
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
nosrednaekim!w32codecs07:29
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs07:29
eagles0513875i could do that cuz i need to back up everythign anyway07:29
martin_hi07:29
Innosenseno WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!107:29
stdinmortifera: w32codecs isn't available for amd64, hence the '32' part07:29
eagles0513875could i burn audio discs on dvd's07:29
InnosenseYou guys are the BEST07:29
nosrednaekimworked?07:30
InnosenseI have my pretty little Gui back!07:30
Innosense=)07:30
mortiferai've tried that ubotu but i didn't know exactly what Dl...:(07:30
nosrednaekimgood!!07:30
eagles0513875morti ubotu is a bot dude07:30
mortiferasorry i'm completely noephite in kubuntu..07:30
mortiferaneophyte07:30
stdineagles0513875: not sure, it has to be an audio disk, I don't think you can burn an audio dvd07:30
eagles0513875ill keep u posted on that cuz i have at least 8gb of audio07:31
Innosenseoh...maybe I don't...its not loading my login window...its just a blue screen with a mouse...07:32
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nosrednaekimInnosense: how did you start x back up again?07:33
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Innosensesudo startx07:33
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Innosenseand then my password07:33
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nosrednaekimno... no need for the sudo07:33
nosrednaekimjust startx07:33
stdinnot the best way to start X07:33
Innosenseso should I try and restart and startx just normally?07:34
stdinsudo /etc/init.d/kdm start07:34
eagles0513875its still not working stdin07:34
stdin(or 'restart')07:34
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+bkspcs07:34
nosrednaekimand then that stdin said07:34
stdineagles0513875: go in to soundkonverters settings, then go to Backends07:35
eagles0513875ok07:35
eagles0513875i there07:35
eagles0513875it found ffmpeg07:35
Innosenseoooh07:35
Innosenseyay!07:35
InnosenseIt works!07:35
Innosense!!!07:35
eagles0513875in the supported programs wma isnt showing up07:35
InnosenseI have my old compy back!07:36
stdineagles0513875: what does it have under wma for decoder ?07:36
nosrednaekimgood!!07:36
nosrednaekimsudo is only needed when you need to run something as root...07:36
eagles0513875it doesnt have an encoder07:36
nosrednaekimInnosense: ^^07:36
Innosenseokay07:36
BacwardsDownoh btw, I had this little speakerbox in my system-tray, so I could set the sound-volume, but now its gone, does anyone know the name of that little app?07:36
eagles0513875mplayer is the decoder07:37
Innosenseit just started me with a window that says "starting without administrative privileges" how do I get them07:37
nosrednaekimwas it for adept.?07:37
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stdineagles0513875: have you restarted soundkonverter yet?07:37
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stdinBacwardsDown: kmix07:38
eagles0513875i will now stdin07:38
BacwardsDownstdin: thanks ;-)07:38
stdin:)07:38
eagles0513875there is still no encoder07:39
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eagles0513875there isnt 1 for wma and flac07:39
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stdineagles0513875: is ffmpeg or mplater in the dropdown list?07:39
eagles0513875not mplater07:39
eagles0513875neither for encoders07:39
eagles0513875let me download mplater07:39
stdineagles0513875: it's mplayer, sorry :P07:40
eagles0513875i have mplayer and nothign is showing up for encoding07:40
eagles0513875mplayer is set for decoding07:40
stdineagles0513875: you have mplayer installed now?07:40
eagles0513875ya07:40
InnosenseOkay, last thing.   The reason my x was crashing was becuase I tried to set it up so that my laptop ran out to a second monitor-extended desktop  kinda thing.   Can anyone direct me to a walkthrough for that online? or know how to do it themselfs (without crashing x)?07:41
eagles0513875its being used as decoder for flac and wma07:41
nosrednaekimInnosense: ooohhh...that....07:41
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nosrednaekimNo....It crashed X for me too...07:41
stdineagles0513875: ok, open up Konsole, and try and play one of your wma files with it (mplayer /path/to/file.wma)07:41
nosrednaekimI think you have to insatll the binary nvidia drivers07:41
Innosenseis that just like tough-stuff/ just don't try07:41
eagles0513875ok07:41
nosrednaekimInnosense: hey... now that you know how to recover your X... go ahead...07:42
stdin!Xinerama07:42
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:42
stdinInnosense: look at that page ^^07:42
nosrednaekimstdin THANK YOU!!!07:42
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stdinheh :)07:42
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eagles0513875it sounds horrible07:43
eagles0513875song doesnt play at all i get like clicks07:43
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RajuraWhats the fastest way to install wine?07:43
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Innosense!DualHead07:43
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:43
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eagles0513875rajura sudo apt-get install wine07:43
stdineagles0513875: it may be some kind of drm, depends where/how toy got the files07:43
Innosense!Xinerama07:44
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:44
stdin!info wine07:44
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB07:44
eagles0513875all i wanna do is convert them from wma to high qualit mpe07:44
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eagles0513875what is a good encoder to get for wma and flac07:44
stdineagles0513875: have you installed w32codecs ?07:44
eagles0513875dont think so where do i get them form07:45
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stdineagles0513875: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs07:45
eagles0513875ty stdin07:46
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stdinyw07:46
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eagles0513875ill let ya know if it worked or i haveing trouble07:46
stdinok07:47
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eagles0513875i get an error 404 when i run first cmd07:48
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stdineagles0513875: make sure you put it all on one line07:49
eagles0513875so no space07:49
eagles0513875s07:49
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eagles0513875still with it on one line it says erro 40407:50
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eagles0513875nm i think i got it07:50
eagles0513875its downloading07:50
eagles0513875where is it going to save what i have downloaded at07:51
stdineagles0513875: in the directory you run the command from (your home directory by default)07:52
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eagles0513875ok07:53
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eagles0513875its dpkging as we speak stdin07:57
stdinafter it's installed, try playing the file again07:57
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eagles0513875there r still no encoders for flac and wma07:58
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pfeinwhat's the recommended program for basic photo tweaking?  I'm thinking like whole-image contrast/brightness, that sort of thing...07:59
carutsuscuse me, how can i run a program with root permisions BUT keepig same user07:59
carutsupfein may be Grimp07:59
eagles0513875sud07:59
stdin!sudo08:00
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:00
eagles0513875sudo08:00
stdineagles0513875: just try playing the file in mplayer again08:00
carutsustdin i know about sudo, but sudo runs as root, i only want root privileges, but kkeping my account name and so on08:00
pfeincarutsu: I want some thing simple, not a paint program (krita's too much)08:00
stdincarutsu: what do you mean, what are you trying to do?08:01
eagles0513875they work08:01
eagles0513875now what encoders do i need to get for flac and wma08:01
stdineagles0513875: set them to mplayer08:02
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eagles0513875ok08:02
eagles0513875there r no options coming up for encoding for flac and wma08:03
eagles0513875wait08:03
carutsustdin: i want to instal webmail in thunderbird however, if i install it as normal user it cant change the dialog so i can choose to make a webmail account, if i run it as sudo i can, but the account is saved as root's and checking mail with root acces is the worst idea08:03
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eagles0513875since im converting them to mp3's do i need flac and wma encoders08:03
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eagles0513875since im encoding them as mp3's08:03
stdineagles0513875: no, just encoders08:03
pfeincarutsu: digikam's is ok, thx anyway08:03
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carutsustdin i mean if i run it as sudo the dialog changes and i can create the account, so i want root privileges but keeping my user name and overall08:04
Bertohi - got an ubuntu newbie question - i installed 6.10 64-bit, but my repository sources look just like normal ones.  Shouldn't they be pointing to specific 64-bit repositories?08:04
stdinBerto: no08:05
Bertostdin, cool, that makes me feel better that i don't have to re-do this :)08:05
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carutsustdin any clues?08:06
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eagles0513875sry bout that stdin keyboard was acting up08:07
rambohello08:07
ramboi have a problem with "user managment"08:07
eagles0513875stdin so i only need the mp3 encoder since that is what im encoding the music to08:07
stdincarutsu: not sure08:07
ramboit says "The module User Managment could not be loaded"08:07
rambowhat can i do?08:07
carutsui think there was a flag or something08:07
stdineagles0513875: yeah, and ffmpeg should be able to do that for you08:08
eagles0513875so i dont have to have the encoders for flac or wma08:08
eagles0513875and the encoder im using is lame for mp308:08
kaqqim looking 4 an ftp client that supports ssl auth tsl and ident plz highlight me08:08
kaqq4 kde08:08
guidenwhy is the logo of katapult a slingshot?08:09
stdineagles0513875: you can install flac if you want, but you said you wanted mp3, so you don't need it08:09
eagles0513875ya i like flac but it takes up too much space08:09
eagles0513875is mp3 good format since im encoding them with max bitrate and sampling rate08:10
stdineagles0513875: if you like mp3, all my music is in ogg/vorbis, you get a higher quality at a lower bitrate than mp308:10
carutsustdin... i think this will do itThe -u (user) option causes sudo to run the specified command as a user other than root. To specify a uid instead of a username, use #uid. Note that if the targetpw Defaults option is set (see sudoers(5)) it is not possible to run commands with a uid not listed in the password database.08:11
eagles0513875im encoding them in 320 bitrate08:12
eagles0513875does that make the audio sound good08:12
Bertois flashplugin-nonfree in the Multiverse repository?  I have multiverse setup but still not seeing flashplugin-nonfree ( 6.10 )08:12
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Bertoahhhh, no flashplugin for 64-bit linux from adobe......08:13
eagles0513875its hard to find 64bit stuff not only for linux also windows08:13
stdincarutsu: so what would be the difference between a user (user1) running the command and running it with sudo -u user1 command, you'll still have the same access08:13
Bertoeagles0513875, yeah i just put this machine together.  i'm not picky but would like flash08:13
eagles0513875i know its a must for alot of things08:14
eagles0513875im relatively new to linux08:14
stdineagles0513875: IMO, an ogg at 92Kbps sounds as good as an mp3 at 192Kbps08:14
eagles0513875didnt know that08:14
Bertoeagles0513875, welcome aboard.  i've been using for 9 years, but VERY new to ubuntu08:14
stdinBerto: there is gnash08:14
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Bertostdin, that's what i'm seeing in the wiki08:14
eagles0513875thanks berto ive learned so much bout linux using ubuntu and kubuntu08:15
Bertobefore this, i had a 7 year old PC running old mandriva... now i'm dual core08:15
stdinBerto: or you can get flash (from adobe) in a 32bit firefox install08:15
Bertostdin, hmm which would you recommend?08:15
eagles0513875berto i got a question have u played around much with clustering08:15
eagles0513875i started with suse 9.008:15
eagles0513875i have a copy of 1008:15
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Bertoeagles0513875, no, sorry08:15
eagles0513875and then i found out bout this  and im hooked on this08:15
stdinBerto: the one from adobe in a 32bit firefix, gnash is still alpha, and won't play flash 8 or 908:15
eagles0513875what i love bout ubuntu is that its not that ram intensive08:16
Bertoubuntu is really the only way to go for desktop if you ask me08:16
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eagles0513875im using under 256mb of ram out of my 1.2gb08:16
Bertostdin, so i'd need to uninstall firefox and re-install 32-bit firefox?08:16
stdinBerto: no, just follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:16
Bertostdin, yep just clicked on that.  thanks iwll play08:16
carutsustdin as far as i'm concerned using sudo logs you AS root, with the flag you run it as your_user_count WITJ root permissions08:16
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eagles0513875berto u play round with wine much08:17
stdincarutsu: nope, that's not how sudo works08:17
carutsustdin, that's what i need08:17
stdinsudo -u stdin cat /etc/shadow08:17
stdincat: /etc/shadow: Permission denied08:17
eagles0513875and also do u know how i can get my open gl working with my ati gpu08:17
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stdineagles0513875: you'd need to install xgl, and the ati binary drivers08:18
stamenhi08:18
stamenI have compiled now the kernel 2.6.2008:18
eagles0513875i tried that and yet the mesa3d still says that its indirect08:19
stamenbut I don't know why my usb mouse don;t work08:19
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edugonchHi, that's also my quiestion, I have problem with beryl and XGl in AMD 6408:19
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stamendoes USB HID enables the usb mouse08:19
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stamenbecause I have desabled this option08:19
stdineagles0513875: you get dri with the ati driver, but xgl disables it08:19
Bertois there a list of US repository mirrors?  I'm getting horrible speed from us.archive.ubuntu.com (35.5kb/s on fiber?  no way)08:20
eagles0513875so i need to install the binary fglrx driver08:20
stdinstamen: should, HID=Human Interface Device08:20
edugonchOh no, sorry, my problem is that I can't make XGL and Beryl work, My Ati drivers are ok08:20
stdinstamen: and you need the module usbmouse08:21
stamenstdin: yes I know the abriviation, but must it be enabled ?08:21
stdinstamen: yeah, I think usbmouse needs it08:21
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stamenaaa, ok08:21
stamenthere is my mistake08:21
stamen:)08:21
edugonch:)08:21
stdinstamen: just copy the config from /boot and use that to configure the kernel08:21
stamenyes I will do this08:22
stamen:)08:22
stamen10x bye08:22
stdinstamen: what guide are you following?08:22
stamenhttp://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu08:22
stdinstamen: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:23
stdinstamen: it tells you how to copy the config08:23
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stamenok08:23
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Daisuke_Idoso far so good.  been running for a while with no lockups and no crashes :D08:24
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dylan_y hallo thar08:24
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eagles0513875stdin its still indirect08:25
eagles0513875stdin may i pm08:25
stdineagles0513875: sure08:25
dylan_I have a question about having Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu all on the same install08:26
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stdinask away08:26
dylan_I know when I installed Kubuntu on Ubuntu, there was some clutter in the menus, but I was wondering if Xubuntu adds much clutter08:27
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theshadowwhats a good reccomendation for desktop widgets?08:28
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stdinnot much I think, most of the apps in Xubuntu are the same as Ubuntu, so there won't be much more08:28
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dylan_and is there anything like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3103108:28
dylan_?08:28
dylan_for Xubuntu08:28
LaNCeloT_RWguys, where do I get FrostWire ? I downloaded a package from the website but after install it didnt start!08:28
stdin!frostwore | LaNCeloT_RW08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frostwore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
stdin!frostwire | LaNCeloT_RW08:28
ubotuLaNCeloT_RW: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:28
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy08:28
LaNCeloT_RWYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com08:28
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LaNCeloT_RWbut i have java... what should I do ?08:29
flakecan I make the desklets auto start up?08:29
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eagles0513875stdin i just sent ya pm08:29
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stdindylan_: not sure, ask in #xubuntu08:29
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: make sure you do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"08:30
dylan_stdin: ok, thaks for the help08:30
LaNCeloT_RWstdin,  sudo update-alternatives --config-java08:31
LaNCeloT_RWupdate-alternatives: unknown option `--config-java'08:31
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dylan_um, what's the equivalent of "update-manager" for Kubuntu?08:32
LaNCeloT_RWI use Ubuntu08:32
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: not "--config-java" "--config java" with a space08:32
LaNCeloT_RW6.10 ADM6408:32
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stdindylan_: not at the moment, it's being worked in tho08:33
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, great man! now it works08:33
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: great :)08:33
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LaNCeloT_RWstdin, man, how do I enable java for using java with firefox08:34
LaNCeloT_RWjava plugin08:34
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: which version of java did you install, 5?08:34
LaNCeloT_RWyes08:35
Bertostdin, yeah, using 32-bit firefox and 64-bit processor and flash is very painless... thanks for the recommendation!08:35
LaNCeloT_RW508:35
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: install "sun-java5-plugin" and restart firefox08:35
stdinBerto: no problem :)08:35
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Schuenemannhey, how can I play FLV files with mplayer or kaffeine?08:35
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:35
LaNCeloT_RWThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:35
LaNCeloT_RWis only available from another source08:35
LaNCeloT_RWE: Package sun-java5-plugin has no installation candidate08:35
AxlRosei think mplayer can play FLV by defauly08:36
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: how did you install java?08:36
SchuenemannAxlRose, I get an error08:36
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, apt-get install sun-java5-plugin08:36
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: no, the jre08:37
rbrunhuber!botsnack > me08:37
SchuenemannAxlRose, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.08:37
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AxlRosehmm let me check mine08:37
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, via apt-get08:37
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LaNCeloT_RWstdin, cannot remember the command I used08:37
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dg10050is it dangerous at all to run update-manager from Ubuntu?08:37
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dg10050Kubuntu*08:38
stdindg10050: not really, I do it08:38
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dg10050stdin: kthx08:38
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AxlRoseSchuenemann: it works for me...what video output are u useing08:39
SchuenemannAxlRose, actually I get that with any video format, appearently08:39
SchuenemannI don't know08:39
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Schuenemannwhere do I check?08:39
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  are u using the graphical mplayer or command line?08:39
Schuenemanngraphical08:39
SchuenemannI opened a video and chose mplayer08:40
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AxlRosewhen mplayer has the default image showing...right click on it and click preferences08:40
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Schuenemannk08:40
Schuenemannand then?08:40
AxlRosemake sure no video is playing08:40
AxlRoseclick video08:40
boomsanglu all08:40
SchuenemannI can't play any videos :p08:40
boomsangno french here ,08:40
boomsang,08:40
maelcum_hi! what's the currently best command-line tool for dvd writing? still growisofs?08:41
AxlRosehaha08:41
Schuenemann!fr08:41
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:41
boomsang!fr08:41
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  I08:41
Schuenemannboomsang, go to those channes08:41
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  I'm using the gl video out08:41
Schuenemannxgma is checked here08:41
Schuenemannxmga08:41
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  change it08:41
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  to either GL or x1108:42
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: what does "apt-cache policy sun-java5-jre" show?08:42
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Schuenemannnow it's playing... but very slow08:42
Schuenemannand I got an error message again08:42
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  which one did u use?08:42
Schuenemanngl08:42
Schuenemannwait, let me copy the message08:42
AxlRosetry X1108:42
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AxlRosewhat kind of video card to u have08:43
SchuenemannRequested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation08:43
LaNCeloT_RWstdin,08:43
LaNCeloT_RWsun-java5-jre:08:43
LaNCeloT_RW  Installed: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu108:43
LaNCeloT_RW  Candidate: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu108:43
LaNCeloT_RW  Version table:08:43
LaNCeloT_RW *** 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 008:43
LaNCeloT_RW        500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages08:43
LaNCeloT_RW        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status08:43
Schuenemannseems the problem is the audio now?08:43
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  to get rid of that go to the preference again and click on codecs08:44
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  change Audio to FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders08:44
SchuenemannI don't think I have ffmpeg08:44
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: and "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" says it can't find the package?08:45
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  either do I but it works :P08:45
Schuenemannthere is gl2 too, whatever that is08:45
Stalk3ranyone know why K3b complains mp3 is an unsupported format when my system supports mp3?08:45
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stdinStalk3r: you need libk3b2-mp308:45
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, yes08:45
LaNCeloT_RWno release candidate08:45
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  are u looking in the codec section08:46
Stalk3rstdin: thanks08:46
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Schuenemannyes08:46
Schuenemannno error message, but very slow this time08:46
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  what kind of video card do u have08:46
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Schuenemannwhat do you have on the video codec?08:46
Schuenemanna crappy 64 MB SiS08:46
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AxlRoseSchuenemann:  nothing08:46
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  thats probably why gl is slow08:46
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  switch it to x1108:47
Schuenemannno... I used to play them good, with dapper08:47
Schuenemannwell, I don't know what that setting was08:47
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Schuenemannlet me try08:47
Bi||aBongwho i can know if the 3d aceleration of my video card is enable?08:47
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, remember that I use an AMD64 Ubuntu 6.1008:47
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: ahh, that's the problem then :P08:48
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: you can get it to work, but you have to get a 32bit firefox, the steps are here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:49
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, anything I can do? i have a earlier version of ubuntu  (6.06) working well with firefox and java.. but i canot remember what I did08:49
LaNCeloT_RWi'll try it man08:49
SchuenemannAxlRose, it's a bit slow... and I can't make the video larger08:49
SchuenemannI used to be able to do that08:50
Bi||aBongsomebody can help me?08:50
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  ya thats one of the problems with x1108:50
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  do you have direct rendering working on your video card08:50
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, this is the version of my installed firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20060601 Firefox/2.0.0.2 (Ubuntu-edgy)08:50
SchuenemannAxlRose, I don't know08:50
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, this is the 32-bit version, right?08:50
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  go to a console and fo a   glxinfo | grep direct08:51
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Schuenemannin mplayer it's not checked08:51
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Bi||aBongwho i can enable direct rendering?08:52
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: looks like the 64bit one, but I can't really tell from theat08:52
stdin*that08:52
LaNCeloT_RWstdin, because i had 64-bit firefox and the icon is different from these one i have now08:52
Daisuke_Idodoes firefox's bookmark manager always suck this bad?08:52
LaNCeloT_RWbut, anyway I' ll test08:53
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Daisuke_Idomove one bookmark to where i want it on the toolbar, and all of a sudden, a dozen other links are in completely different positions08:53
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SchuenemannAxlRose, I typed glxinfo and was logged out08:53
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  you were totally logged out of KDE?08:54
Schuenemannyes08:54
stdinLaNCeloT_RW: if you installed it with apt, or adept, it's the 64bit one08:54
SchuenemannI typed glxinfo only08:54
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  i've never heard of that one08:54
Daisuke_Idoand i'm a retard.08:54
Schuenemann:-/08:54
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  u did it in konsole?08:54
Schuenemannyes08:54
Bi||aBongi need enable de direct rendering, how i can do this?08:54
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  want to try it again haha08:55
Schuenemannjust  a sec08:55
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LaNCeloT_RWstdin, it  was already installed after ubuntu installation08:55
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stdinLaNCeloT_RW: ahh, then it's not the 32bit one, just follow the guide on the link i sent08:55
AxlRoseBi||aBong:  it all depends on what kinda of video card you have08:56
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LaNCeloT_RWstdin, ok, i will follow that.. i have already downloaded firefox 32-bit08:56
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  thatis fucked up08:56
SchuenemannAxlRose, yeah, it really logs me off08:56
Schuenemann=(08:56
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  can u do glxgears?08:56
Schuenemannyes08:57
SchuenemannI see some things08:57
Schuenemannspining08:57
LaNCeloT_RWI Wish You Could - Martijn Ten Velden (Good Music) hehehe08:57
AxlRoseare they slow?08:57
Schuenemannyes08:57
Bi||aBongi have ati radeon 9200 SE08:57
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  like jerky slow?08:57
LaNCeloT_RWoh, glxgears here are slow too08:57
Schuenemannlol... I don't know08:57
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  well what I mean is are they stuttering08:58
Schuenemannthey seem rusty or something08:58
Schuenemannstuttering?08:58
AxlRoseSchuenemann:  jumpy08:58
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AxlRoseSchuenemann: not smoothly turning08:58
Schuenemannno... I guess I can see they moving08:58
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AxlRoseBi||aBong:  follow this :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:59
Schuenemannsometimes they move the opposite direction08:59
AxlRoseSchuenemann: it would really help if glxinfo wouldn't log you out :S09:00
SchuenemannI guess so09:00
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LaNCeloT_RWguys, glxgears here are slow too...09:03
LaNCeloT_RWwhat should it be?09:03
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW: just because it's slow doesn't mean anythings wrong09:03
nosrednaekimLaNCeloT_RW: try "glxinfo"09:03
Schuenemannthat you log you off :p09:03
nosrednaekiman see if you have direct rendering09:03
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW: jerky...or stuttering is a differnt story09:03
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ubuntu_hrm.09:04
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9695/09:04
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, can u check my glxinfo, just to know if it is ok ?09:05
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW: well you don't have direct rendering09:05
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, how can i able this?09:05
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW: and thats a  problem lol09:05
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  what kinda video card do u have09:05
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, Gforce MX 440 - 64MB09:06
|Jason8||Hey guys, I just installed kubuntu 6.06, and now grub gives me an error 15 when I try to boot.  Should I try to reinstall it?  Currently using the LiveCD09:06
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:   have u installed the nvidia drivers?09:06
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, yes, using apt-get09:06
AxlRosepost your xorg.conf so I can look at it09:06
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, what is the command to install nvidia drivers, just to check the installation09:06
nosrednaekimJason: you can just reinstall grub09:07
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: how would I go about doing that?09:07
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: justto be sure, you can't even get to the grub menu?09:07
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:   not sure...I'm an ATI user09:07
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  i think they are in apt though09:08
|Jason8||Nope, can't get to the grub menu09:08
|Jason8||It says "Grub 1.5 Loading" or something like that09:08
|Jason8||then it says Error 1509:08
nosrednaekimok... what drive hda1, 2, 3, etc did you install linux on?09:08
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:   post ur xorg.conf though so I can see that09:08
JernejLwhere do i change environment paths in kubuntu?09:08
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AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:09:09
AxlRosesudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common09:09
AxlRosesudo nvidia-xconfig09:09
SchuenemannAxlRose, weird... when I run mplayer from konsole it enables me to resize09:09
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, i dont think i did it on this fresh installataion of Ubuntu09:09
LaNCeloT_RWlet me do it09:09
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AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2909:10
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LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, it is installed09:10
AxlRoseSchuenemann: thats because it's using a differnt video out09:10
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AxlRoseSchuenemann: i'm not sure what it uses as a defualt09:10
SchuenemannAxlRose, XV seems ok09:10
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: are you with me?09:10
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|Jason8||oh, missed that line.09:11
|Jason8||sorry.09:11
coreyhoe do i install a tar.gz file???09:11
AxlRoseSchuenemann: I've had problems with XV on some things...but if it works for u great09:11
SchuenemannAxlRose, x11/xv09:11
|Jason8||It was on hdb109:11
nosrednaekimok.09:11
LaNCeloT_RWshit! java plugin is not working on firefox09:11
Schuenemanncorey, tar -xvf filename09:11
Schuenemanncorey, you can open it with ark09:11
SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, what is the problem09:11
AxlRoseSchuenemann: does it play smoothly09:11
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:   i'm still waiting on ur xorg.conf09:12
SchuenemannAxlRose, appearently yes09:12
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: I suppose hda is always the master ide drive?09:12
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nosrednaekimI'm not exactly sure09:12
|Jason8||hda is the master drive, yes.09:12
nosrednaekimok... good09:12
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AxlRoseSchuenemann: problem solved :D09:12
LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, i did what was on the page wiki ubuntu to install java plugin using AMD 64 Ubuntu Edgy09:12
LaNCeloT_RWbut it is not working09:12
SchuenemannAxlRose, thanks man09:12
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, i will paste it right now09:12
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sorush21hi how do I prevent the upgrade of some of my packages09:12
AxlRoseSchuenemann: no problem09:12
SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, do you have java installed? JRE09:12
nosrednaekimok |Jason8||: do this command "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt"09:14
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9698/09:14
nosrednaekimthats will mount your ubuntu drive09:14
LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, yes, I have JRE 1.509:14
SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, if you type "java -version" do you get 1.5 output?09:14
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LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, java version "1.5.0_08"09:15
LaNCeloT_RWJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)09:15
LaNCeloT_RWJava HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode09:15
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW: you need to go into ur xorg.conf and go to the section "Device"09:15
SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, you just can't see applets?09:15
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  change nv to nvidia09:15
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  then reboot09:15
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: I have to be under root.  How do I do that?09:16
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, already changed, i'll restart later09:16
nosrednaekimsorry, put a sudo before that command09:16
LaNCeloT_RWAxlRose, thanks09:16
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  alright09:16
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  i'm out09:16
AxlRoseLaNCeloT_RW:  goodluck09:16
LaNCeloT_RWthanks09:16
LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, yes, i need to use firefox java plugin09:16
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: okay, did that.  no output.  Just makes a new line.09:16
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LaNCeloT_RWto access bank account (for example)09:16
nosrednaekimok... good09:16
SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, check this: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=245775009:17
SchuenemannI had that problem once09:17
coreyhow do i make firefox work with this??09:17
nosrednaekimnow do "sudo chroot /dev/hdb1"09:17
Schuenemannabout:plugins09:17
Schuenemannplugin.expose_full_path09:17
Schuenemannsorry, about:config09:17
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LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, now the plugin is working09:18
LaNCeloT_RWthanks man09:18
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hdb1: Not a directory09:18
Schuenemann:D09:18
sorush20what is the package for kubuntu glx called?09:18
nosrednaekimsorry, i'm kinda tired... change /dev/hdb1 to /mnt09:18
|Jason8||oh09:18
|Jason8||so "sudo chroot /mnt"?09:18
nosrednaekimyeah09:18
|Jason8||Okay.09:19
coreyAnyone know ???09:20
nosrednaekimnow do "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"09:20
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: Okay, i'm set.  logged in under root now.09:20
edward_looking for some help09:20
edward_anyone know if i386  will work on AMD64?09:20
nosrednaekimedward_: you mean install a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine09:21
nosrednaekim?09:21
edward_yes09:21
nosrednaekimyeah... that will work09:21
edward_will it work09:21
edward_amd64 kubuntu doesn't have macromedia support09:21
nosrednaekimedward_: yes it will09:22
nosrednaekim!nspluginwrapper09:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:22
edward_will everything else work as well?09:22
guidenyou can also have a amd64 os and still use 32 bit program, you just have to have 32 libraries09:22
nosrednaekimedward_: everthing will work exactly the same (somtimes better)09:22
edward_sounds great09:22
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nosrednaekimedward_: to install macromedia flash  google "nspluginwrapper"09:22
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Schuenemanncorey, what is your problem?09:23
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guidenedward, why do you want a 32 bit os when there is 64 bit versions?09:23
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: did you do the command?09:23
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nosrednaekim64 bit can be a pain...09:23
guidenwell a bit09:23
guidenwith flash09:23
guidenbut it's only that09:23
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|Jason8||nosrednaekim: just did09:23
nosrednaekimok...09:23
Schuenemannadobe sucks09:24
nosrednaekimtry and reboot now |Jason8||09:24
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|Jason8||sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()09:24
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nosrednaekim|Jason8||: NM, don't reboot yet09:24
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|Jason8||yeah, it didn't connect to the server.09:24
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: did you try "su" within that terminal?09:24
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|Jason8||su?  no09:25
edward_I like 64 bit but in Kubuntu there seems to be lack of support at this time09:25
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guidenoh09:25
guidenbut09:25
guidenI'm using it09:25
guiden:)09:25
nosrednaekimwhat did you do to login as root in the chroot?09:25
edward_need java and macromedia support09:25
comosicuswhat shoud i do to be invited on a channel09:25
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edward_really like kubuntu and much better than windows09:25
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Schuenemanncomosicus, someone has to invite you09:26
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nosrednaekimedward_: proabbaly better to go 32 bit then09:26
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|Jason8||nosrednaekim: that one command, "sudo chroot <stuff>" put me under root09:26
comosicushow do i find that someoane?09:26
nosrednaekimoh...ok09:26
SchuenemannI don't think there is a command to see who is in a channel09:26
nosrednaekimso you didn't enter any commands into that terminal until my grub installer one?09:27
Schuenemannyou could try the network help channel09:27
guidenit's a waste of potentional power...09:27
bigpigsorry to interrupt, guys, but my 6.10 system initiated a 7.04 upgrade this morning... should I be suspicious or greatful?09:27
comosicusthank's09:27
nosrednaekimbigpig: is it all working?09:27
bigpigit's not complete, yet.09:27
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: I'm using the same terminal I started when you first told me to run the commands.09:27
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nosrednaekimok09:27
bigpignosrednaekim: let it run, or kill the upgrade and wait?09:28
bigpignosrednaekim: this is my primary desktop.09:28
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nosrednaekimbigpig: you might want to cancel09:28
nosrednaekimwhether or not it will work is really wuite arbitrary09:28
nosrednaekimI'd personally kill it09:29
bigpignosrednaekim: okay. should it have autoinitiated? (I did not initiate it. I was prompted)09:29
maniek1990#ubuntu.pl09:29
nosrednaekimbigpig: yes... it can do that09:29
nosrednaekimjust cancell it...09:29
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maniek1990Where I' m ??09:29
maniek1990what is??09:29
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bigpigit seems odd to me that it would have initated on a standard installation.09:29
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bigpiglooks like my source.list has been updated to all feisty repositories.09:30
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: could you exit and redo the chroot step?09:30
nosrednaekimbig pig: uhh oh... too late09:30
|Jason8||sure.09:30
nosrednaekimI'm sorry09:30
fdovingbigpig: is it finished downloading yet?09:31
bigpignosrednaekim: did you do that? ;)09:31
nosrednaekimbig pig,... better continue with the upgrade then...09:31
nosrednaekimbigpig: nah...09:31
bigpigfdoving: no. it was ~half way through the downloads.09:31
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fdovingbigpig: ok, then you can still kill it.09:31
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nosrednaekimI was saying sorry to jason09:31
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bigpignosrednaekim: you just seemed like a good victim to blame. (grins!)09:31
fdovingbigpig: cancel it and change all instances of 'feisty' back to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list09:31
LaNCeloT_RWbrb guys!09:31
dawnwhy would I be getting this?? sh: Can't open NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run09:32
bigpigfdoving: okay. thanks.09:32
bigpigany ideas why it initiated this morning?09:32
dawni logout of session and stop kdm09:32
fdovingbigpig: then run 'sudo aptitude update' in a terminal to get the right package-index.09:32
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: this is what I get when I use "sudo chroot /mnt" like you said09:32
|Jason8||ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt09:32
|Jason8||root@ubuntu:/#09:32
fdovingbigpig: no, i have a hard time beliving it started by itself. you had to accept it somehow.09:32
edward_why doesnt there  come support for macromedia with AMD64 like with i386?09:32
bigpigfdoving: I accepted it, but it doesn't make sense that it was even offered this early in the release cycle.09:33
fdovingbigpig: true. i'll ask around.09:33
edward_have one system that it works beautiful on i386 and my new amd64 needs plugins09:33
nosrednaekimJason ok.. thats fine09:33
|Jason8||okay.09:34
bigpigfdoving: okay. shoot me an email at havoc@harrisdev.com if you need any diagnostic or ferensic info from me.09:34
nosrednaekimthen run " grub-install /dev/hda"09:34
edward_how can I update from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 in Kubuntu?09:34
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fdovingbigpig: do you have edgy-proposed repositories enabled?09:34
fdoving!upgrade | edward_09:34
ubotuedward_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:34
bigpigthanks for entertaining my questions. I appreciate the work you folks do to give me such a fantastic system!09:34
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: I get the same error.  sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()09:35
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bigpigfdoving: well, feisty-proposed is currently enabled, so I assume that edgy-proposed was before it got updated.09:35
nosrednaekimdid you do sudo?09:35
nosrednaekimdon't use sudo on that command09:35
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|Jason8||okay.09:36
fdovingbigpig: that might explain alot.09:36
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.   Do I have to mount hda?09:36
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|Jason8||and wouldn't it be hda1?09:36
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bigpigfdoving: other than automatic upgrades, what's in X-proposed?09:37
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fdovingbigpig: -proposed contains packages that are proposed for -updates, they are in -proposed to be tested. that's why you got the new adept with the fancy upgrade tool.09:37
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: thats odd...09:38
LaNCeloT_RWomg! neither flash or java plugin works with firefox09:38
bigpigfdoving: okay...  thanks.09:38
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fdovingbigpig: every package has to sit in -proposed for a certain amount of time (or till enought developers have confirmed it to be ok), before making it into -updates. adept needs to make it into -updates in time for the next release which happens in ~1 month.09:39
LaNCeloT_RWi tried to access my bank account and the java loads.. but when i typed the pass it says: "Password Empty"09:39
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|Jason8||nosrednaekim: should I mount that drive and try to install grub onto it as "/media/hda"?09:39
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: I forgot to mention, that drive is NTFS09:40
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SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, do you see applets from other pages?09:40
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LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, can u tell me a page to test it?09:40
nosrednaekim|Jason8||: you should not need to mount the drive09:40
|Jason8||hrm.09:40
Schuenemannlet me see09:40
nosrednaekimif you have an hdb, you would need an hda I would think. yet its saying hda isn't a device...09:41
|Jason8||There's a hda in there!09:41
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|Jason8||I can see it in /dev/09:41
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nosrednaekimhmm... very odd...09:42
nosrednaekimVERY odd...09:42
LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, flash is not working out too09:42
fdovingnosrednaekim: hda is the master on the first ide channel. you don't have to connect anything to it.09:42
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nosrednaekimfdoving:  I know09:42
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SchuenemannLaNCeloT_RW, nowhere?09:42
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|Jason8||nosrednaekim: I just looked, there is no /dev/ directory..  There is a /media/ directory, and it's in there09:43
nosrednaekimthere is /dev/?09:43
bigpigthanks, all!09:43
LaNCeloT_RWSchuenemann, neither flash or java works ok09:43
fdoving|Jason8||: can i ask what is the initial problem?09:43
LaNCeloT_RWusing firefox09:43
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nosrednaekim|Jason8||: I think you had better reinstall09:43
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nosrednaekimfdoving: error 15 on grub boot09:43
|Jason8||Okay, I can handle a reinstallation09:43
edward_can anyone tell me an easy way to get macromedia support for amd64 in kubuntu09:44
fdoving|Jason8||: hang on a few minutes, i'll just find out what grub error 15 is.09:44
nosrednaekimedward_: google "nspluginwrapper"09:44
|Jason8||fdoving: I looked it up, it's a missing kernel or something09:44
edward_i did google it and comes in rpm format09:44
nosrednaekim|your installation is meesed up if you don't have a /dev09:44
fdoving|Jason8||: just read that. ok. do you have more than one entry in your grub menu?09:45
nosrednaekim!find nspluginwrapper09:45
slow-motionhallo09:45
ubotuPackage/file nspluginwrapper does not exist in edgy09:45
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|Jason8||fdoving, I just formatted and installed kubuntu on my second hard drive, originally had Ubuntu on that drive.09:45
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|Jason8||It had Windows XP and Ubuntu as the entries on the GRUB boot menu09:46
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fdoving|Jason8||: so when you boot you get a list of ubuntu kernels, or just 'Windows XP' and 'Ubuntu' ?09:46
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|Jason8||fdoving right now I don't get a list, I just get the error.  but before I formatted, I got a list with Windows XP, and three or four Ubuntu options.09:47
fdoving|Jason8||: ok, you can hit 'esc' to get the list, can't you?09:47
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nosrednaekim|Jason8||: can you boot windows?09:48
|Jason8||Nope, can't boot windows and I don't think esc works09:48
nosrednaekimheis grub and his whole insatll is messed up, fdoving09:48
|Jason8||It says "GRUB 1.5 Loading..." then instantly it says "Error 15"09:48
fdoving|Jason8||: are you chrooted into the linux root partition now?09:48
|Jason8||and just starts that.09:48
|Jason8||fdoving, yes.09:48
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fdoving|Jason8||: do 'mount -t proc none /proc'09:49
sbalzanoHI ALL HELP ME FOR AMULE09:49
fdoving|Jason8||: then 'update-grub'09:49
fdoving!p2p | sbalzano09:49
ubotusbalzano: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.09:49
|Jason8||Cool.09:50
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fdoving|Jason8||: does it fail somehow?09:50
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|Jason8||menu.lst was missing or something like that09:50
|Jason8||just made one09:50
|Jason8||and now it's done, finished.  No errors.09:50
fdoving|Jason8||: ok. verify that the info in /boot/grub/menu.lst looks ok.09:51
nosrednaekimfdoving: I didnt know there was that command09:51
fdoving|Jason8||: with emphasis on the root partition.09:51
|Jason8||how do I view it?09:51
fdovingnosrednaekim: it's a handy command to re-generate menu.lst from the available kernels.09:51
|Jason8||I cd'd to the directory09:51
nosrednaekimyeah... thats cool09:51
fdoving|Jason8||: less /boot/grub/menu.lst09:52
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timster!mounting09:52
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:52
sbalzanoWHERE CAN I FOUND AMULE SERVER LIST09:53
nosrednaekim!shouting09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
fdovingsbalzano: not here. please don't use uppercase for everything. we can read lowercase too.09:53
nosrednaekimsbalzano: please do not shout09:53
sbalzanook excuse me09:53
|Jason8||fdoving: looks good, thanks for the help :)09:53
|Jason8||nosrednaekim: thanks for the help :)09:54
fdoving|Jason8||: let's see if it works first :)09:54
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|Jason8||okay09:54
|Jason8||be right back09:54
|Jason8||rebooting09:54
dell190how can i install Firefox.. with the tar.gz package??09:55
fdovingdell190: no, you want to use the packages.09:55
fdovingdell190: find Adept Manager in the menus, search for and install firefox.09:55
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dell190ok09:56
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midtibyI'm trying to get Beryl to work on my laptop (Dell D420) which is running kubuntu09:59
dell190is it at all possible to install with the tar.gz file... it would take forever to download on dial up09:59
midtibybut when I try to start beryl or beryl-manager kde crashes and I get back to the login screen09:59
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rambohello10:00
fdovingdell190: it is, but i strongly advise you to use the package.10:00
fdoving!beryl | midtiby10:00
ubotumidtiby: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:00
ramboi have an mx510 mouse and i can't get to work "back" and "forward" buttons"10:00
midtibyubotu thx10:00
dell190whats the difference ??... im new to linux lol10:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
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fdovingdell190: the package is prepared and optimized for ubuntu systems and you automatically get the security updates like all other packages. it also makes uninstalling much easier if that should ever be neccesary.10:02
dell190hmmm... i'll just stick to opera...since i already have it installed10:02
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Bi||aBongwhy when i write url the navigator it takes much in opening?10:03
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nosrednaekim!konqueror ipv410:04
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB10:04
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nosrednaekim!konquerorfix10:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konquerorfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:04
dell190one more question;.....  anyone know where i can get a driver for my Conexant modem that can use the full ability and not just 14.4kbps10:05
nosrednaekimBi||aBong: there is a problem with ipv6 and konquror10:05
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guidenare all servers connected in freenode? I mean, if you have a network several irc servers around the globe, will I acces every channel that is in every server?10:05
guideni can't type..10:06
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Bi||aBongbut i install firefox and the problem continue10:06
fdovingguiden: if you connect to servers connected to freenode, sure you will access the freenode channels.10:06
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guidenaha ok, so everyone is connected to a main server?10:08
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guidenI mean every server10:08
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fdovingguiden: everyone connects to servers, then the servers connect to each other.10:08
william_Hi all10:10
william_PLEASE could someone help and explain to me how to create a new partition on a new serial ATA HD and formate it (ext3) and mount it that everyone using this computer is able to store data on it.10:10
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guidenok cool10:11
william_the partition part and the formating wasn't the problem but I just can't get write access for ordanry user10:11
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Lrrrhello, the Kubuntu Dist-upgrade tool refuses to run here: "can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE"10:14
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embrikhelp me to install the latest java someone..10:15
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fdoving!java | embrik10:15
ubotuembrik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:16
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Cobra_BubblesYay!10:16
Bi||aBongi need help, when i type url in the firefox it takes much in opening and with konqueror is the same problem?10:16
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tembatesting10:16
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tanubisanyone know how I would start setting up a webcam with Kubuntu?10:19
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fdoving!ipv6 | bi||abong10:20
ubotubi||abong: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:20
qbe!webcam | embrik10:20
ubotuembrik: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:20
william_could someone help and explain to me how to mount a new serial ATA HD that everyone using this computer is able to store data on it.10:21
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dell190anyone know a good place for Linux modem drivers ?????10:22
fdoving!modem | dell19010:22
ubotudell190: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:22
fdoving:)10:22
fdovingubotu knows it all.10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knows it all. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:22
fdovingyeah, right.10:23
c0nv1ctwilliam_: use the mount command10:23
fdovingwilliam_: you got it formatted as ext3, and mounted, right? - the problem is to allow users to use it?10:23
dell190fdoving:   thankx for the help10:23
william_fdoving: right I've tried at least 100 different mount optins but it just doesent work10:24
guidenpeople are saying they can't understand me when I use swedish letters10:24
guidendoes this get's wierd10:24
william_not even me with primary group root can write on it10:24
guiden10:24
guiden?10:25
spitwiselooks fine for me10:25
fdovingwilliam_: that's because you want to have a look at the commands 'chown' and 'chmod'.10:25
spitwisea with 2 dots and a with halo10:25
Cobra_BubblesHrm... I hope the ndiswrapper method works...10:25
fdovingwilliam_: ouch.. root can't write to it?10:25
qbeguiden: i can read that letters10:25
guidenis this an "A" with two dots on top of it, 10:25
spitwiseja10:25
guiden10:25
guidenok10:25
fdovingguiden: yes, you use the wrong charset, you use some type of iso, change to utf8.10:26
qbeit's about utf-8 setup, i guess10:26
william_fdoving: yes as root I cam write on it10:26
guidenwhere do I change it?10:26
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fdovingwilliam_: then make a directory. as root. chown to your user, and write as your user.10:26
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Cobra_BubblesHow do I shot web?10:27
fdovingguiden: in the identities settings. look for 'encoding'10:27
william_fdoving: sorry for asking that stupid question but how - I really have problems when it comes to userrights10:27
fdovingguiden: it's under the advanced tab.10:27
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william_fdoving: I'm working with linux since las week wednesday10:28
fdovingwilliam_: ok, in a terminal first go to the new disk. 'cd /where/you/mounted/it'10:28
william_fdoving: nvidia card is running sound is ok now and as soon as the hd is accessible WINDOOF is historie10:28
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embrikfdoving: thanks, what about java framework. I need it to get video and audio working in oo10:29
fdovingwilliam_: ok, tell me when you've navigated to the directory you munted the disk to.10:29
fdoving!java | embrik10:29
ubotuembrik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:29
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fdovingembrik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java got info on the SDK too.10:30
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william_fdoving: done10:31
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fdovingwilliam_: 'sudo mkdir william' to make a directory named william.10:31
Cobra_BubblesGrowl10:31
Cobra_Bubblesokies10:31
guidenhow about now. an "A" with two dots on top of it?  10:31
qbeyup10:31
william_fdoving: ok done I've created files as sudo10:32
guidenok good10:32
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Cobra_BubblesI'm on a LIVE CD and needing to access my hard drive to save some files10:32
Cobra_BubblesNot good10:32
fdovingwilliam_: then you want to change the ownership to william. 'sudo chown william.william william'10:32
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lovlossI need to install kubuntu on a new computer with a SATA drive, do i need a different edition?10:33
fdovingwilliam_: that command changes the ownership to william(user).william(group) on william(folder)10:33
c0nv1ctlovloss: no10:33
fdovingwilliam_: now your user william can save files to that directory.10:34
lovlossc0nv1ct: Well it doesnt seem to recognize the existance of it10:34
c0nv1ctlovloss: kubuntu edgy installed on my system using only SATA drives just fine10:34
william_fdoving: ok so far so good - done10:34
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tanubisanyone know how I'd go about installing a nexxtech USB VGA webcam?10:34
william_fdoving: how can i check wether it worked?10:34
qbetanubis10:34
c0nv1ctlovloss: i guess its possible your controller isnt supported, have you searched the forums?10:35
lovlossc0nv1ct: my controller?10:35
qbetanubis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam10:35
c0nv1ctlovloss: the SATA controller10:35
lovlossc0nv1ct: wassat10:35
fdovingwilliam_: try to save something to that disk as your user? a textfile or something.10:35
duane_tan have u plugged it in10:35
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fdovingwilliam_: open konqueror and copy something.10:35
lovlossc0nv1ct: i dont even know wher eto find it in my bios :<10:35
william_fdoving: great it worked10:36
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william_fdoving: and now to the mounting part10:36
fdovingwilliam_: it is mounted, isn't it?10:36
william_fdoving: not so far10:36
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fdovingwilliam_: it must be, because unless it is, all this has been done on your first disk.10:37
c0nv1ctlovloss: is your motherboard fairly new?10:37
lovlossc0nv1ct: yes, it has dual channel memory10:37
fdovingwilliam_: brb. kid -> bed.10:37
william_fdoving: stupid me10:37
austrojedihow can i watch quicktime-ads in firefox? (i.e. the get-a-mac-ads on www.apple.com)10:38
william_fdoving: give me a min sorry :-))10:38
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c0nv1ctlovloss: mine is over a year old and uses dual channel, but still it is known that some new SATA chipsets arent supported in the Dapper/Edgy kernels10:38
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c0nv1ctlovloss: you could try installing Feisty, but its in testing still10:38
lovlossseriously!?10:38
rambohey10:39
lovlossi know... i intend to get it in april10:39
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rambowhy doesn't "alsaconf" work?10:39
embrikfdoving: thanks again. Last question from me tonigh ( I think) what do I write to install mplayerplug-in for firefox 1.510:39
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lovlossc0nv1ct: Though its suspicious to me that i cant find it in the bios10:39
ramboit worked in suse, now in kubuntu doesn't10:39
c0nv1ctlovloss: it should be in there, what motherboard do you have?10:40
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lovlossc0nv1ct: its not with me, let me look it up10:40
embrikembrik: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer10:40
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c0nv1ctlovloss: here is some technical info for SATA in linux, it may help http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html10:42
duane_sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer didnt work10:42
lovlossc0nv1ct: almost there... tigerdirect is being slow10:42
c0nv1cti guess i got lucky with my SATA chipset, i didnt have any problems10:43
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william_fdoving: fantastic it worked10:44
lovlossc0nv1ct: yeesh im comcast too10:44
william_fdoving: it's going to be a long nioght but by noon windoof is history10:45
AxlRoseI feel like an idiot asking this....but how do you get a recycle bin on the desktop instead of the tray10:45
lovlossc0nv1ct: Mach Speed MSNV-939 Socket 939 Motherboard10:45
william_fdoving: Thank you ver much for your help10:45
lovlosshttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=M450-240210:45
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lovloss'twas bittorent which slowed the internets10:46
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AxlRoseanyone know how to get a recycle bin on the desktop instead of the tray10:47
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lovlossc0nv1ct: did you see the mobo? any ideas?10:49
c0nv1ctlovloss: i'm reading the info on it, but i dont see that chipset in the list of SATA info10:49
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jose__alguien que me pase el enlace espaol10:49
c0nv1ctlovloss: it says its the nForce 4 NF4-A9 A chipset, i dont see it on that SATA page :\10:50
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lovlossc0nv1ct: I dont know about chipset, it just has slots for SATA drives10:50
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lovlossc0nv1ct: See them down at the righthand corner?10:50
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embrikneed help to install flashplayer too10:51
jose__me too10:51
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embrikhm.. earlier I just installed it from within fireox when asked. Didn't work now10:52
c0nv1ctlovloss: yeah, its not in the list of supported chipsets :(10:52
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embrik!flashplayer10:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:52
lovlossc0nv1ct: Oh great....10:52
voidmageAnyone know how I can have knetworkmanager run a certain script upon connecting to a specific network?10:53
lovlossc0nv1ct: well can i install on an IDE drive thenm10:53
c0nv1ctlovloss: it looks like a SATA 1.5 chipset, and the only nForce 4 chipsets i see are for SATA 210:53
c0nv1ctlovloss: or SATA 3 i mean10:53
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reinhello10:54
lovlossc0nv1ct: any suggestions?10:54
embrikexit10:54
reini just formatted my harddrive and im on live CD10:54
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reinwhat's the size of a swap?10:54
lovlossrein : 1.5 x your memory10:54
c0nv1ctlovloss: contacting MSP for support might be your only hope10:54
rambohow can i tell alsamixer that i have also analog rear right and left? it has the correct card10:54
reinlovloss: ok10:55
lovlossc0nv1ct: alrighjt, thank you10:55
c0nv1ctlovloss: either that or replacing the motherboard, lol10:55
lovlossc0nv1ct: i just bought it10:55
c0nv1ctlovloss: it appears to be a limitation in the kernel, so its not kubuntu related, its linux related10:55
fdovingAxlRose: do you have a ~/Desktop/trash.desktop file?10:55
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lovlossc0nv1ct: Will feisty's kernel handle it you think?10:56
c0nv1ctlovloss: its possible, it uses a much newer kernel, its worth a try10:56
lovlossc0nv1ct: Ok.10:56
c0nv1ctlovloss: i run feisty on my laptop, and its stable so far, being a testing release10:56
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AxlRosefdoving: no10:56
TheStefInstalled Feisty today, runs out of the box10:56
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lovlossc0nv1ct: So ive heard. i wish it would come out soon, im eager to use it10:57
duane_thanks for the info in regards to the browsers ubotu10:57
rambod0h, it says here analog front, rear and side10:57
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TheStefThe MP3, divx even works10:57
c0nv1ctTheStef: does it support any newer SATA1.5 chipsets?10:57
rambo:/10:57
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lovlossc0nv1ct: but if you run a test version dont you have to completely reinstall later?10:57
c0nv1ctlovloss: not necessarily, you can always make your /home a separate partition and make reinstalling really easy10:58
fdovingAxlRose: you can follow http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/10:58
lovlossc0nv1ct: I have a 250 gig external hd anyway10:58
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AxlRosefdoving: thank you10:58
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teufeli need some help10:59
lovlossc0nv1ct: i need to check and make sure the install disk wasnt the problem. It wouldnt load up the gui to begin with10:59
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teufelis there anybody here who knows their way around kubuntu enough to help me mount a drive so that i can edit my mbr or copy files from that drive11:00
jose__alguien que me pase ppor favor un enlace del chat en espaol11:00
lovlossisnt mbr on its own secret partition?11:00
teufelis it11:00
teufeli dont know that much about it11:00
lovlossi think so11:00
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teufelbut i know it isnt working11:01
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lovlossim not sure beyond that11:01
morvokmbr is written on the first little bit of hda111:01
teufelxp-master hd0     kubuntu-slave hd111:01
teufelyeah xp hda111:02
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teufelhow to manually change or delete the part the grub messed up11:02
johaHi, I wondered if I can use an ADBLOCK plus like extension in konqueror. Has anybody an idea if theres a way?11:02
teufelxp disc repair is not working11:02
morvokteufel: hold on a sec11:02
teufelok11:02
TheGateKeeper!grub11:02
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:02
c0nv1ctjoha: there is an adblock type thing already in konqueror11:02
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c0nv1ctjoha: in konqueror, go to Settings - Configure Konqueror11:03
jose__grub error11:03
reinneed help in qtparted. I created ext3 but how do i label it as /boot ???11:03
c0nv1ctrein: you have to mount it there11:04
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reinok11:04
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johac0nv1ct: hehe thanks ;)11:04
reinguess i have to restart thanks btw11:04
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jose__somebody that speaks Spanish11:05
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c0nv1ctjoha: np, i didnt know it was there either untill i was messn around in the settings :P11:05
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fdoving!es | jose__11:06
ubotujose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:06
guidendo you see an a with two dots over it?  11:06
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austrojediguiden: yes11:06
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aj_is the alpha still really buggy?11:10
Roeyhi11:10
Roeyis Feisty Fawn as fast-moving a target as Debian SID?11:10
coreymon77victory!!!11:11
coreymon77after lots of searching11:11
coreymon77and countless errors11:11
coreymon77and almost screwing up my cd drive so much that i couldnt even use it anymore11:11
coreymon77i have finally found a way to get it to read dvd+r media11:11
silveiraHi people11:11
coreymon77is kubuntu too!11:11
teufeli need some help with a boot and mounting issue11:12
teufelanyone care to help me with that11:12
coreymon77teufel: whats the matter?11:12
teufelim new to kubuntu and i dont know how to mount my master harddrive which has xp loaded on it11:13
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voidmageteufel: It might be already mounted11:13
voidmageteufel: check in /media11:13
coreymon77teufel: ntfs11:13
coreymon77?11:13
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teufeli tried to reinstall windows after i had installed kubuntu before i knew it would mess things up11:14
teufelyea11:14
teufelits not there11:14
voidmagehmm11:14
coreymon77teufel: dont bother11:14
coreymon77teufel: ntfs is too much of a pain11:14
voidmage!ntfs11:14
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:14
voidmage!ntfs-3g11:14
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)11:14
coreymon77teufel: my suggestion11:14
teufelntfs11:14
voidmageIf you're interested, look at those links11:14
voidmageBut again, your cal11:14
voidmagel11:14
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coreymon77teufel: how many hard drives do you have?11:15
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teufel2 internal 1 external11:15
teufelxp-master kubuntu-slave11:15
teufelyeah ill check those links out11:15
coreymon77teufel: my suggestion is to cut off a bit of space from one of the hard drives, format that space as fat32 and use it as a shared storage drive11:16
fairman_Hi, i need help with KMail. When i am writing messages it break lines in 78 columns, when i unset the "break lines after ..." KMail will never break ... i need to break lines when i reach end of window11:16
coreymon77teufel: and anything you want to share between the 2 oses would be put there11:16
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teufelwell my master is 200 gig and my slave is only 2011:17
coreymon77teufel: because ntfs in linux is in myopinion too much of a pain and too dangerous to the data on the ntfs drive11:17
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coreymon77teufel: well then partition a few gigs off of the 200 drive11:17
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teufelwhat i need to do is find a way to fix the boot record of the master11:18
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teufelis there anyway to do that11:18
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teufeli have tried fixmbr bootcfg and fixboot on the xp cd11:18
coreymon77teufel: oh, you mean you reinstalled windows and now you cant boot into linux right?11:19
teufelim in kubuntu11:19
coreymon77teufel: so whats the matter?11:19
teufelbut i cannot reinstall windows11:19
nagyvhello! I wanted to try out Gnome, but now would like to delete the packages installed with it. I have a list of the installed packages (~300), how can I easily remove them?11:19
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coreymon77teufel: why would you want to? :P11:19
teufelgams11:19
teufelgames11:19
coreymon77i guess11:20
teufelreason cubase11:20
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coreymon77and what do you mean you cant reinstall11:20
teufeljust stuff i use windows for11:20
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coreymon77just put the install cd in and reinstall11:20
coreymon77but after reinstall, you will have to do some stuff before bneing able to access kubuntu again11:20
teufeli can delete the windows folder for a new install but after it copies the files and reboots it hangs11:20
Sannenagyv: there might be a way to automate it with a script, but what I would do is, look for the libs and remove those, because lots of apps will get removed with them because they depend on them.11:21
teufelyeah this is a fresh load of kubuntu i can reinstall noprob11:21
kristianCould somebody help me out a bit with a bootloader/formatting problem?11:21
coreymon77teufel: well this is the wrong cahnnel to be asking about that, windoze problems are for the ##windows channel11:21
coreymon77kristian: what??11:21
teufelwell i am in kubuntu11:21
nagyvSanne: I tried it, but I use a couple of gtk based apps, and do not want to remove those.11:21
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teufeland i cant find my harddrives11:21
kristianIt's my brother - he gets a grub error 21...11:21
coreymon77!ask | kristian11:21
ubotukristian: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:21
kristianok :)11:22
SSJ_GZnagyv: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde11:22
teufelit mounts my external on the desktop11:22
voidmagecoreymon77: can i ask you if i can ask a question?11:22
voidmage;P11:22
coreymon77voidmage: whats the matter11:22
teufelbut i cannot find my d:\ in kubuntu11:22
kristianThe solutions I've found online all use a liveCD as rescue cd, but he hasn't got one...11:22
voidmageteufel: i'd also check in /etc/fstab11:22
coreymon77kristian: download one11:22
coreymon77kristian: download and burn one11:23
voidmageteufel: see if there's an entry there11:23
Gh0st75still can't get my ipod working, took it work and got it formatted to vfat instead of hfs+ by loading itunes on a workstation with XP, still can't use it to play songs tho11:23
kristianEh... that wouldn't solve anything... we live some 250km apart...11:23
teufelok hold up11:23
Gh0st75looks like songs were loaded with gtkpod, but i can't find anything from the ipod menu11:23
Sannenagyv: outch! Ok, then you either need to make a command like: apt-get remove package_1 packge_2 ... package_n, or look into bash scripting a bit how to pull those package names out of your list and do it automatically.11:23
kristianHe has a rather slow connection, so downloading one would take im some 7-8 hours - is there any alternative to this?11:23
teufeljust open a terminal and type in /ect/fstab11:24
coreymon77kristian: you can order one for free11:24
coreymon77kristian: but that will take a few weeks11:24
teufelis that what your saying hahaha im new to kubuntu11:24
nagyvSanne: did you checked what SSJ_GZ sent? very, khmm, impressive :)11:24
kristianYes, I know11:24
TheGateKeeperteufel, cat /etc/fstab11:24
teufelthanks11:25
Sannenagyv: oh, nice, all done for you :). But beware of removing the libs you need.11:25
coreymon77kristian: i dont know11:25
coreymon77kristian: seems to me that you need a livecd11:25
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kristianHm... I'll tell him that then...11:26
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teufeli dont see it11:26
coreymon77kristian: sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do11:26
kristianOK - thanks for your time guys!11:26
Sannenagyv: in any case, you can sikulate the remove command so you can check nothing gets removed that you want to keep.11:26
xbesnardHello. Need for help. I bought a DVD card LEADTEK DTV2000H to run under KUBUNTU 6.0.6.1. With Modeprob, all the modules look to be present. But the card is not recognized. Question: is it necessary to rebuild the kernel 2-6-15-26.386? Thanks.11:26
Sannenagyv: simulate, even11:26
teufelthere well yeah its hdb111:26
voidmagexbesnard: Is it possible for you to upgrade to edgy?11:26
Sannenagyv: you di it like: apt-get -s remove...11:27
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voidmagexbesnard: perhaps the new kernel would support it better?11:27
nagyvSanne: thx11:27
Sannenagyv: you're welcome11:27
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xbesnardWith an upgrade to Edgy, my dialup modem will be no more supported by the open source conexant driver with 2-6-17 kernel. It tried.11:28
voidmagexbesnard: know anything about your modem in 2.6.20?11:28
voidmagexbesnard: because if it would work in there i might recommend trying feisty11:28
teufelcan somebody pm me to help with kubuntu11:28
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xbesnardFeisty, why not but later.11:29
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voidmagexbesnard: if anything you can find about 2.6.20 points to all your hardware working correctly i'd probably try feisty, it goes into beta next week11:30
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tuna_hello11:30
TheGateKeeperteufel, you are better off staying in the main channel, that way other people can chip into helping11:30
tuna_I was just using the apt-get command to install Overkill, and suddenly, it told me this:11:31
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tuna_http://rafb.net/p/wrAPNj64.html11:32
tuna_i guess it wants to uninstall gnome11:32
nagyvcould someone give me a script that puts in a line break at every space (actually changes the space to a line break)? I can not find out how to put a regular expression \n in the replace.11:32
tuna_you see, I run Xfce, Gnome, and KDE on this comp11:32
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userundtuna_, did you uninstall ubuntu-desktop metapackage?11:32
tuna_no11:32
mcscruffi need to compile something for a diff arch and need to use a diff gcc, how do i set that as my path for make?11:32
teufeli am new11:33
teufeli cant view my harddrive with kubuntu loaded on it11:33
teufelits nowhere to be found11:33
nagyvteufel: did you tried konqueror?11:33
teufelyeah11:33
voidmageteufel: can you paste the output of 'mount' to a pastebin?11:34
mauricebjr11:34
teufeljust finds the floppy11:34
tuna_userund  no, i didn't uninstall anything :/11:34
teufeland cdrom11:34
nagyvteufel: what you mean harddrive? an external usb stick, pendrive or a CD?11:34
nagyvteufel: and what would you like to find?11:34
teufelit finds my external when i turn it on11:34
userundtuna_, well, I don't know what's wrong, but it isn't forcing you to remove them right now so you should be fine to install that program11:34
voidmagenagyv: his windows drives weren't detected and mounted by the installer11:34
teufelkubuntu is loaded on d:\ or hdb1 how do i explore it with konqeror11:35
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voidmageteufel: first i'd check in /media/hdb111:35
voidmagesee if anything comes up there11:35
teufelnot there11:35
voidmagealright11:35
fernandoexist any equivalent to movie maker for linux???11:35
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voidmageteufel: add this line to your /etc/fstab11:36
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tuna_userund but can i stop it from saying that? because it's kind of annoying...11:36
tuna_i don't wanna see it every time I use apt-get11:36
voidmageteufel: actually i'm not sure what to add11:36
johai am sorry to bother you if this question. What name has the KDE-tool with which you can sort your Desktop Windows. You type on your Keyboard and every Desk is shown ?11:36
teufelhaha i hear ya11:36
tuna_and if i use adept, then won't it automatically uninstall all those packages?11:36
nagyvvoidmage: he can use also the gui with the system preferences, I think11:36
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teufelwhat11:36
voidmagenagyv: i'll see if i can find anything there11:37
fernandomovie maker for linux????11:37
nagyvvoidmage: under the Special page, Disk&Partitions. I have never used them, but it would be logical.11:37
voidmagenagyv: i've never used that either11:37
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voidmagenagyv: but it isn't looking right11:37
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Sannefernando: please keep in mind that not everybody knows what movie maker does.11:39
userundtuna_, no, it shouldn't, but I don't know how to fix it.11:39
tuna_oh.11:39
tuna_you think it'll go away with time?11:40
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voidmagefernando: tried kino?11:40
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Naveronehey?11:41
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Naveronehello?11:41
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CrypTomhi, I've just installed edgy on my laptop, started digikam, added my canon 300D with the "add camera" dialog, but I get a "Failed to connect to the camera. [...] " when I try to connect to the camera.11:41
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CrypTom is there anything that needs to be done before being able to access the digital camera? (user, groups, permissions?)11:42
reinhi, i can't reformat my drive i recieve mkfs problem?11:42
Naveroneright, is there anyone here who knows this stuff, cos im stuck too...11:42
fernandoSanne: movie maker let you create videos, form you videocamera...11:43
tuna_userund are you there?11:43
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fernandoSanne: using fireware connections..11:43
userundtuna_, no, it probably won't go away in time.  look on the forums for similar problems.11:43
fernandoSanne: is a default program on windows...11:43
tuna_userund ok, thank you11:43
Sannefernando: thanks for clarification :). Personally I don't know which program would do that, but voidmage suggested the program kino.11:44
TheGateKeeperrein, have you tried something like the gparted live cd11:44
Naveronei cant get acces to my windows side from kubuntu, im a noob. please help?11:45
TheGateKeeper!ntfs11:45
reinno, i am using the kubuntu live cd11:45
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:45
Naveronethanks11:45
Naveroneill take a look now11:45
SanneCrypTom: I just found this link yesterday for my husband, might help you also: http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html11:45
reinok i'll be back later11:46
CrypTomSanne: thanks, I'll have a look11:47
TheGateKeeperdapper repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main11:48
SanneCrypTom: you're welcome11:48
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crimsunnice, a pharmacy computer11:52
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space_ninjaWhy hasn't kubunut inlncluded any direct connect client?11:54
space_ninjaincluded11:54
tere454Hi, i am asking my question from before again. Maybe someone has an idea how the program is named which displays all open windows in kde on your desk and you can simply click on these pictures to get the program up and use it ?11:55
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space_ninjatere454, do you mean a program in the menu?11:56
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duanehello11:56
tere454yes in the taskbar. and there is a keyboard shortcut too11:57
tere454space_ninja: you tap a keay and everything is sorted and shown like " playing cards"11:57
space_ninjaklick on the left mouse button on the panel, click unlock, then click again on the menu, and click on add applet to panel11:58
space_ninjathen11:58
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space_ninjathen add windows list button11:58
space_ninjaright11:58
space_ninjaI mean right button11:58
space_ninjathen when you are finished, you can lock the panel again11:59
fernandosomeone has problem with the volume keys of the keyboard??? kubuntu 6.1011:59
space_ninjaoh I forgot11:59
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space_ninjaor maybe not11:59
space_ninjatera454, was it that program you where seeking?12:00
thomaxtere454: shortkey = alt + tab12:00
tere454space_ninja: ;) no  the program i meant had to be installed besides the standard kde installation12:01
tere454space_ninja: it was an "open-programs-organizer" . sadly i do not remember its name12:01
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tere454started with k... :)12:01
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space_ninjahehe ok :)12:01
space_ninjaI don't know then12:01
space_ninjathey always do :D12:02
thomaxtere454: check kde-apps.org12:02
tere454i am checking since half an hour. i will find this damn little program and report back ;)12:02
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fernandosomeone here with kubuntu 6.10???12:06
crimsunwin 2812:06
crimsunerr12:06
intelikeyeducate me.  for a non-networking box  why would i want ssh-agent to run ?12:06
duaneI was wondering if there is any way to have the Kubuntu system boot up and automaticly load the Wireless assistant software as well as were do I need to put the modprobe ndiswrapper command to load on startup12:06
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intelikeynobody ?12:09
nosrednaekimintelikey... could you repeat your problem?12:09
duaneintelkey are u going to have that on the network12:09
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intelikeyduane the box won't do or allow any "remote" logins12:09
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coreymon77duane: for one thing, you are certain you need to use ndis?12:10
intelikeyso is ssh-agent useful locally ?12:10
nosrednaekimintelikey: please repeat your problem for me?12:10
intelikeynosrednaekim educate me.  for a non-networking box  why would i want ssh-agent to run ?12:10
duaneyea i need to turn on the caard after the PC boots12:10
intelikeyif you want to call it a problem nosrednaekim12:11
coreymon77duane: what is the card?12:11
duanelinksys somthing12:11
coreymon77duane: linksys what12:11
coreymon77duane: specifics12:11
duanehang on12:11
coreymon77duane: and is it a wireless card?12:11
duanewpc54gx12:12
duaneit is12:12
coreymon77duane: okay, wait a sec12:12
duanethanks man12:12
nosrednaekimintelikey: don't worry about ssh agent, no body can get in with sshagent, you can only get out..12:12

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