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[03:26] <skjr> jrib - thanks for assisting me, its greatly appreciated
[03:28] <jrib> skjr: k, so restricted is failing
[03:28] <skjr> ok
[03:28] <jrib> just comment out the restricted parts.  So for example in line 3:
[03:29] <jrib> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse restricted
[03:29] <jrib> you would make:
[03:29] <jrib> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse #restricted
=== jrib thinks that works... if not just put it on a new line
[03:29] <jrib> do the same for the other 3 lines that contain "restricted"
[03:30] <skjr> so i just want to comment out the word restricted?
[03:30] <jrib> skjr: yeah, that should work
[03:30] <nalioth> restricted is failing?
[03:30] <jrib> nalioth: yes, not really sure why
[03:30] <nalioth> change the us.archive to just plain archive and try again
[03:31] <nalioth> don't go shutting off repos
[03:31] <jrib> we were going to put them back :)
[03:31] <skjr> ok, i did that, still get an error when updating
[03:31] <jrib> what error?
[03:33] <skjr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9572/
[03:34] <jrib> skjr: you didn't comment all the restricted stuff
[03:34] <skjr> ok, let me check again
[03:34] <jrib> you can try nalioth's suggestion too, we should have tried that first in retrospect
[03:35] <skjr> you're right, i missed two
[03:35] <skjr> it updated without error this time
[03:35] <jrib> skjr: now uncomment and update again
[03:36] <skjr> ok, that appeared to work
[03:36] <skjr> should i go after the driver now?
[03:36] <jrib> skjr: yeah
[03:37] <skjr> i forget which one I was after, I'll have to look back through
[03:37] <skjr> i think it was this - sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:38] <skjr> does that sound right?
[03:38] <jrib> yes
[03:38] <skjr> it told me it was already the newest version
[03:39] <jrib> ok, back to this then:
[03:39] <jrib> !ati
[03:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <skjr> awesome, i'm going to restart X, thanks for your assistance
[03:43] <jrib> np
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[01:59] <adrian_> Hi
[02:00] <jrib> hi
[02:00] <jrib> let's start over
[02:00] <adrian_> yeah
[02:00] <nalioth> jrib: don't you ever sleep?
[02:00] <jrib> adrian_: open a terminal, type "mount", hit enter, copy the output and paste it into the form at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then give me the url
[02:00] <adrian_> Problem: I want a shortcut on the top panel of my desktop to my hdd
[02:01] <jrib> nalioth: I knew i forgot something!
[02:02] <adrian_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9628/
[02:03] <jrib> adrian_: ok so you have hdd1 mounted at /share.  This is the one you want to have the panel shortcut for right?
[02:03] <adrian_> I wnat to access my hdd1 drive through the shortcut on the panel
[02:03] <adrian_> yeah
[02:03] <jrib> ok right click and go to add to panel
[02:03] <jrib> what version of ubuntu btw?
[02:04] <adrian_> 1.60
[02:04] <jrib> 6.10?
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[02:04] <adrian_> ops yeah sorry
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[02:05] <jrib> adrian_: do you see the button for "custom application launcher"?
[02:05] <adrian_> in add panel now
[02:05] <adrian_> yeah
[02:06] <jrib> ok click that, then select "File" as the type, give it a name, and input "/share" without quotes for location
[02:06] <jrib> and pick an icon
[02:07] <adrian_> but its not a file i want to acces but a dir
[02:07] <jrib> that's ok, directories are files too, everything on linux is a file
[02:09] <adrian_> so it's should be just /hare then?
[02:09] <jrib> /share, right
[02:10] <adrian_> yeah /share
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[02:10] <adrian_> i couldn't do that
[02:10] <jrib> adrian_: why?
[02:10] <adrian_> accessdenied
[02:11] <jrib> that shouldn't happen :/  In a terminal, does this command work:  nautilus /share
[02:12] <adrian_> yes, i go diectly to the dir
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[02:12] <jrib> ok, you created the launcher though and when you click on it it says "access denied"?  Or does it say "access denied" while you create it?
[02:14] <adrian_> it works the first time I click on it but the other time, it doesn't
[02:15] <adrian_> it's says "couldn't start application - no execuable objekt"
[02:16] <jrib> adrian_: strange... what if you edit the launcher and change it to  Type "Application"  and then change the command to  "nautilus /share"  (no quotes)
[02:17] <adrian_> hm...i can use the shortcut to /share but I want to go to /share/media/ but i wont
[02:17] <jrib> ok, what does this command return:  ls -ld /share/media
[02:17] <adrian_> also i can go to /share as long as I don't move the shortcut to a different loc on the panel?
[02:19] <adrian_> then it doesn't recognize nautilus  :(
[02:20] <adrian_> when I move the icon the command dir vanish :(
[02:20] <jrib> hmm I think I remember some bug on 6.10 about moving launchers
[02:21] <jrib> move it to where you want, then edit the properties, then don't move them anymore, does that work?
[02:21] <adrian_> I'll check
[02:22] <adrian_> no then i get the access denied message (It could run the program)
[02:23] <adrian_> this is my command at the mom: /share/media
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[02:23] <jrib> adrian_: what is the output of this command:  ls -ld /share/media
[02:24] <adrian_> jrib: this from the terminal - dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 2006-09-17 01:11 /share/media
[02:25] <jrib> adrian_: weird... what if you use something like  /usr/share  instead just to test?
[02:26] <adrian_> ok, paste it in under command in the shortcut on the panel but the same message :(
[02:27] <nalioth> jrib: you mean /usr/local/share?
[02:27] <nalioth> jrib: stay out of system space
[02:28] <jrib> nalioth: he's just creating a launher to view files and I have no idea why his mounted /share/media isn't working.  Permissions are 555, root owned
[02:28] <jrib> adrian_: wait, why does it say command?
[02:28] <nalioth> jrib: just saying . . .
[02:28] <jrib> nalioth: ok :)
[02:28] <jrib> adrian_: is "File" chosen as the type?
[02:28] <nalioth> jrib: practice safe computing
[02:29] <adrian_> jrib: it might say path, got a swedish version so
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[02:30] <adrian_> no program, and for some reason I can't choose file now when it is created, just Programs or Programs in terminal?
[02:31] <jrib> heh... did you try  "nautilus /share/media"  without quotes for that?
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[02:32] <adrian_> i did another with file and dir /share/media but only comes to /share but it's working as long as I don't move it
[02:33] <jrib> yeah, it seems like you are being bitten by that bug
[02:34] <adrian_> yeah, i guess so. The nautilus /share/media loc didn't work
[02:34] <jrib> adrian_: even before you move it?
[02:35] <adrian_> i got it to work now, by typing in /share/Media
[02:36] <jrib> erm ok
[02:36] <adrian_> but i guess if I move it i wont work
[02:36] <adrian_> no, if I move it it stops working
[02:37] <jrib> the stuff is stored in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers .  See what it looks like before and after moving
[02:38] <adrian_> how do I look at that, trough the terminal?
[02:38] <jrib> you could, you could also just use nautilus
[02:39] <adrian_> where do I find this nautilus then? Under Programs?
[02:39] <jrib> nautilus is the file manager
[02:40] <jrib> you can go to Places > whatever
[02:40] <adrian_> ok, so it shiould be in the filesystem then?
[02:41] <jrib> ~ means  /home/your_username
[02:41] <adrian_> i see
[02:42] <adrian_> just have desktop, examples and a file called wget - log there?
[02:43] <jrib> adrian_: anything that starts with a '.' is hidden.  Show hidden files
[02:44] <adrian_> now i see it
[02:44] <adrian_> can you give me the loc again?
[02:45] <jrib> the stuff is stored in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers .  See what it looks like before and after moving
[02:47] <adrian_> no differnce in the icons as far as I can see
[02:47] <jrib> idk then, try searching bugs.ubuntu.com for the bug, I'm pretty sure I saw it there once
[02:48] <adrian_> what is the name of the bug?
[02:48] <jrib> no idea
[02:48] <adrian_> :)
[02:48] <jrib> make sure to search for fixed bugs, because it has been fixed in the next version of ubuntu
[02:50] <adrian_> what do you mean?
[02:50] <adrian_> i should look for the fixedword in the status list?
[02:52] <jrib> in advanced search, it lets you choose to search "needs info", "unconfirmed", "fix released", etc.... by default it doesn't search "fix released"
[02:54] <adrian_> i see i'll try doing that some other time. Thanks soo much for all your help
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[03:00] <adrian_> Jrib: thanks a bunch for helping me out
[03:01] <jrib> adrian_: np, hope you get it sorted out
[03:02] <adrian_> i did it partly, just have to make it stay in the same place :)
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[07:36] <Botamis> jrib: alright
[07:36] <jrib> hi
[07:36] <Botamis> jrib: i appreciate the help man I really do
[07:36] <jrib> np, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please?
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[07:36] <jrib> !pastebin
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <Botamis> ok but how do i see sources.list?
[07:37] <jrib> use this command: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <Botamis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9685/
[07:39] <jrib> Botamis: ok, since I can't see the gui window you have, we'll edit the file by hand
[07:39] <jrib> Botamis: close the text editor you now have open and type this command:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <jrib> a couple of questions:
[07:40] <jrib> you have the cd-rom repository enabled, do you want to turn it off or leave it?
[07:41] <Botamis> umm
[07:41] <Botamis> i have no idea
[07:41] <Botamis> that means that i have to put in the cd to add a repo?
[07:41] <jrib> well it will usually prompt you to insert the cd-rom when you want to install things, which I find annoying
[07:42] <Botamis> yea that's really annoying
[07:42] <jrib> ok, second question:  do you want to enable multiverse in addition to universe?
[07:42] <Botamis> what is the difference?
[07:42] <jrib> Botamis: multiverse includes non-free things, in the sense that they aren't open source
[07:43] <jrib> or have some weird license
[07:43] <Botamis> well chances are most websites are going to have non-free formats right? then I would want multi please
[07:43] <jrib> k
[07:43] <jrib> first lets disable the cd-rom:  do you see line 5 that begins "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _..."?
[07:44] <Botamis> yes
[07:44] <jrib> delete it
[07:44] <Botamis> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted
[07:44] <Botamis> that right?
[07:44] <jrib> right
[07:45] <Botamis> alright
[07:45] <jrib> ok now lets enable universe and multiverse
[07:45] <jrib> see lines 22 and 23?
[07:45] <jrib> remove the "#" at the beginning
[07:46] <Botamis> eb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy
[07:46] <Botamis> that line?
[07:46] <Botamis> deb*
[07:46] <jrib> they both should say "universe" at the end
[07:46] <Botamis> ok
[07:46] <Botamis> done
[07:46] <jrib> ok, now add " multiverse" to the end of both of those lines
[07:46] <Botamis> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:46] <Botamis> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:47] <jrib> do the same for 38 and 39
[07:47] <Botamis> they both had it at the end to begin with
[07:47] <Botamis> how can i see the line numbers
[07:47] <jrib> Botamis: those aren't lines 22 and 23
[07:47] <Botamis> ok how can i see the line numbers?
[07:47] <jrib> edit > preferences
[07:48] <Botamis> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[07:48] <Botamis> ## repository.
[07:48] <Botamis> that's 22-23
[07:48] <Botamis> oo i think i deleted some spaces
[07:48] <jrib> use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9685/ as a reference then, it changed when you deleted line 5 I guess :)
[07:49] <Botamis> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[07:49] <Botamis> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[07:49] <Botamis> do i change universe or do i literally just add "multiverse"
[07:50] <jrib> juse add it to the end
[07:50] <jrib> remember to remove the "#"
[07:50] <Botamis> alright done
[07:50] <jrib> ok do the same for 38 and 39
[07:50] <Botamis> does that line have security in it?
[07:51] <jrib> yes
[07:51] <Botamis> alright
[07:51] <Botamis> removed the comment and added multiverse
[07:51] <jrib> ok, now save and close
[07:51] <jrib> then run this command:  sudo apt-get update
[07:51] <Botamis> uhh it couldn't save
[07:52] <jrib> is it still open?
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[07:52] <Botamis> arg this is frustrating
[07:53] <Botamis> i have to redo it all, gimme a second
[07:53] <Botamis> wait
[07:53] <Botamis> i opened a read only
[07:53] <Botamis> shouldn't i do a sudo gedit instead?
[07:53] <jrib> Botamis: you need to open the editor by using this command:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <Botamis> ok
[07:54] <jrib> k, delete line 5, and edit 22,23,38, and 39
[07:54] <Botamis> ok done
[07:54] <jrib> save
[07:54] <jrib> close
[07:54] <jrib> sudo apt-get update
[07:54] <jrib> conquer
[07:55] <Botamis> 99%
[07:56] <Botamis> does this usually take a long time?
[07:57] <jrib> sometimes
[07:57] <Botamis> there we go
[07:57] <Botamis> done
[07:57] <jrib> ok now you have universe and multiverse
[07:58] <Botamis> so I now have the codec or not really
[07:58] <jrib> no, now you need to install the codec packages that that wiki page lists
[07:59] <Botamis> ok but i was following the steps again
[07:59] <Botamis> and I got stuck at the add part again, it just has room for a command line
[07:59] <Botamis> "Enter the complete APT line of the repository that you want to add as source"
[08:00] <jrib> you've done that, skip to the installing part
[08:00] <Botamis> can you use that command in #ubuntu to show me that link again please?
[08:01] <Botamis> never mind got it
[08:01] <jrib> !codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <jrib> Botamis: you can always /msg ubotu codecs    and he will respond
[08:01] <Botamis> alright
[08:02] <Botamis> I pasted the code and it failed.
[08:02] <jrib> paste the ouptut
[08:02] <Botamis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:02] <Botamis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:03] <jrib> Botamis: close synaptic or update-manager if they are running
[08:03] <Botamis> there we go
[08:05] <Botamis> so once this finishes, i'm good to go?
[08:05] <jrib> should be
[08:06] <Botamis> thanks!
[08:06] <jrib> np
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[11:37] <sebrock> jo
[11:37] <jrib> hi
[11:37] <sebrock> well I killed it by kill -9 now
[11:37] <jrib> k
[11:38] <sebrock> still get: Loading /etc/devilspie
[11:38] <sebrock> /etc/devilspie doesn't exist
[11:38] <sebrock> Loading /home/sebastian/.devilspie
[11:38] <sebrock> Loading /home/sebastian/.devilspie/centered.ds
[11:38] <sebrock> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:38] <jrib> lol
[11:38] <sebrock> :|
[11:38] <jrib> paste centered.ds
[11:39] <sebrock> (if (not (is (window_class) "Gnome-panel")) (center))
[11:39] <sebrock> thats all
[11:39] <sebrock> supposed to work, took it from the forums
[11:40] <jrib> ok, and if you  'mv ~/.devilspie/centered.ds{,backup}'  does it still seg fault?
[11:41] <sebrock> yeah well then there is no .ds file is there?
[11:41] <jrib> yeah, it's just to make sure that that file is causing the seg fault
[11:41] <sebrock> (it quits becuase no s-expressions are loaded)
[11:41] <sebrock> ah ok
[11:42] <jrib> ok,  echo "(debug)" > ~/.devilspie/debug.ds
[11:43] <sebrock> yeah
[11:43] <sebrock> same as before
[11:43] <sebrock> I get a lot of debug info
[11:44] <jrib> hmm ok
[11:44] <sebrock> but commands doesnt seem to do any actual work :/
[11:44] <jrib> well we didn't put any command
[11:44] <jrib> try:
[11:44] <jrib> (if (is (application_name) "Firefox") (center)
[11:47] <sebrock> it's missing a ) right?
[11:47] <jrib> right
[11:47] <jrib> if it messes up again, we'll try something other than center
[11:48] <sebrock> thats strange as hell, I tried this before and it didnt work, now it works
[11:48] <sebrock> ok so now to the next task: getting ALL windows centered upon create
[11:49] <sebrock> all except gnome-panel I guess
[11:49] <sebrock> check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98071&page=4
[11:49] <jrib> can you paste the rule you were trying before again?
[11:49] <sebrock> it's in the second post
[11:50] <jrib> interesting, that's my post
[11:50] <sebrock> ok haha
[11:51] <sebrock> I took the last code there
[11:51] <sebrock> but u are also stating that it need X restart (as gnome already is loaded)
[11:52] <jrib> yeah
[11:52] <jrib> hmm so do you have devilspie in your startup?
[11:52] <sebrock> yes
[11:52] <sebrock> well I try it again
[11:52] <jrib> I think logging out and back in should be enough
[11:52] <sebrock> but with the other code
[11:53] <sebrock> brb!
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[11:58] <sebrock> jrib, hey again
[11:58] <jrib> hi
[11:59] <sebrock> not working :(
[11:59] <jrib> hmm still seg faulting?
[11:59] <sebrock> no I mean, still it does not cnter stuff
[11:59] <sebrock> center
[12:00] <jrib> but is a devilspie instance running?
[12:00] <jrib> ps -ef | grep devilspie
[12:01] <sebrock> yep
[12:01] <sebrock> 1000      5870  5309  0 00:00 pts/0    00:00:00 grep devilspie
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[12:02] <jrib> that's just grep
[12:02] <sebrock> hahahha
[12:02] <sebrock> I put devilspie in starter apps
[12:02] <jrib> yeah it may have seg faulted
[12:02] <sebrock> anyway, running it manually gives seg