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crimsunright now it looks like it will gain weak approval12:16
dsascongrats on the new-look yelp guys.12:17
dsasi'm sure congrats are due to the kde guys away12:18
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dsascrimsun: hmm, sounds like an interesting situation.12:19
dsasuhm s/away/as well12:20
dsasI should go to bed.12:20
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LaserJockmdke nixternal: did you guys know that Universe is being turned on by default in Feisty?01:13
nixternalyup01:14
nixternalLaserJock: Universe and Multivers for Kubuntu, noted in help:/kubuntu/add-applications :)01:14
LaserJockexcellent01:14
LaserJockI just found out01:14
nixternalhaha01:14
nixternalwth, you are the mastah of the universe01:14
LaserJockthey never told us01:14
LaserJockas far as I know01:15
LaserJockI knew it was in the works since UDS-Paris01:15
LaserJockbut I didn't know the finally implemented it01:15
nixternalwow since Paris, and within the past 2 or so weeks they finally did it01:17
LaserJockyep01:19
nixternalhey, for MOTU, is it true another MOTU has to sign my key before I can even be considered?01:19
LaserJockit looks like the mostly did it because of the easy-codec installtion stuff01:19
nixternalahh01:19
nixternalya, easy codec garbage.01:19
LaserJockwell ...01:20
LaserJocktbh my key was not signed by a Debian or Ubuntu dev before becoming a MOTU01:20
LaserJockit *was* signed01:20
nixternalwell I know a few people like that, but I heard it is the *new* rule01:20
LaserJockthey best thing is to get a DD01:21
nixternalthere has to be a DD in the Chicago land area01:21
LaserJockthere's a webpage to locate them01:21
nixternalya, I am looking for it01:21
nixternalI thought I had it bookmarked01:21
LaserJockI honestly don't know what the policy is, I've never seen it written down01:22
LaserJockI saw your comment in brandon's blog01:22
dsasnixternal: https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php01:23
dsasnixternal: also see biglumber.com for general key signers (lots of familiar names there though)01:23
LaserJockI used biglumber to do mine01:23
nixternaldsas: been on the biglumber thing for over a year, never had anyone even contact me01:24
LaserJockit'd be nice if they set a "distance" away from somebody you had to be01:24
nixternalno parties in the area or anything related01:24
LaserJocknixternal: I just looked for somebody in Reno and emailed them01:24
nixternaloh sweet, Carlo Segre is a DD01:24
nixternalgood deal, so there are 2 DDs in the Chicago area, and one is/was in the Chicago GLUG01:25
dsasnixternal: don't you run a loco team? you could do a key signing there.01:25
nixternaldsas: we do key signings01:25
nixternalwe just don't have anyone cool :)01:25
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dsasnixternal: ah. I guess at least once you get signed, you can pass on your coolness ;)01:26
nixternalhehe01:26
nixternalmy gpg key signatures remind me of a community where incest is rampid, it just goes in like 1 big circle01:27
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mooeyhowdy. i'm triaging a bug in a package's man page, the man page has a mistake in it. do the doc team want to be subscribed to the bug or should it be fixed upstream?02:17
LaserJockupstream02:17
mooeythought as much, thanks LaserJock02:17
LaserJocknp02:18
LaserJocknixternal: pingy02:21
jjessehiya LaserJock02:21
LaserJockhi jjesse02:21
jjesseok since no one is responding in #kubuntu, what's the easiest way to migrate from one kubuntu box to another w/o loosing any of my contacts/email/etc?02:24
dsascopy all of your .directories (probably .kde/)?02:27
dsasI'm not a kde user myself :)02:27
dsasand use imap for email :)02:27
LaserJockjjesse: you could tar up your ~/02:28
LaserJockthat's what I usually do02:28
jjesseand then untar it?02:28
LaserJockyeah02:29
LaserJockI actually usually just untar it to ~/tmp or something02:29
LaserJockand copy in just the stuff I need02:29
LaserJockit kinda keeps things cleaned up02:29
LaserJockand I keep the tar file as a backup02:29
jjesseinteresting02:29
LaserJockit's my natural spring cleaning method ;-)02:30
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nixternalLaserJock: pongy03:07
mptjjesse, and once you've figured it out, create a "Migrate to another computer" assistant :-)03:08
nixternalhehe03:09
mptbecause it would be a bad look for Ubiquity to make it easier to migrate from Windows to Ubuntu than (K)Ubuntu to (K)Ubuntu03:10
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal feisty * r3956 /kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): updated debian/ dir for kubuntu-docs03:11
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3957 kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): feisty+1 debian updates - first upload - woooohoooo :)03:12
nixternalmpt: you know what, don't think we have really looked at migrating for *buntu to *buntu, emphasis was always on Windows or Mac to *buntu03:13
nixternalwe have the small blurbs about Red Hat and other distros, but that would be a great piece of documentation, for feisty+1 of course :)03:13
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LaserJocknixternal: awesome, I forgot what I was going to say03:26
LaserJockthat's what I get for a contentless ping03:26
nixternallol03:26
jjessehiya ni03:26
jjessenixternal:03:26
nixternalhiya jjesse :)03:27
jjessenew dell latitude d820 came for work :)03:27
nixternalnice03:28
nixternalI am trying to replace a socket a mobo, talk about a pain03:28
nixternalnobody is really selling them anymore03:28
nixternalso, I have decided I should probably get a 64bit cheap mobo and cpu and just use all of my existing hardware03:29
nixternalI can't push myself to spend the $65 to do so :)03:29
jjessecheap bastard03:29
nixternallol yes03:29
jjesseman i'm tired03:29
nixternalI am too03:29
jjesseits hard to drive 5 hours03:29
nixternalouch, where did you drive 5 hours to/from?03:29
jjessecolumbus ohio to grand rapids mi03:30
tonyyarussojjesse: ...that's short03:30
nixternaloh that is a fun drive03:30
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nixternal94 to 69/169 or whatever it is, down to columbus03:30
jjessei'm working in coubums for the next 3 weeks and come home on weekends to see wife03:30
nixternalcoubums ey03:30
nixternalthat was a very bad typo :)03:31
jjessehey i told you i'm sleepy03:31
nixternalcome on, I can columbus w/ my eyes closed ;p03:31
nixternalhahahahahaha03:31
nixternalI can type Columbus03:31
nixternalOK, point taken03:31
nixternal18 hours to Florida :)03:32
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nixternalman, these Edgy doc translation updates for the package that never got made is taking forever07:14
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poningruhttps://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html07:29
poningrubut there is no disk option in edgy07:30
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nixternaloh damn, I didn't remove the status="review" from the feisty docs :)08:16
nixternaltis OK, they can be fixed before translations since the strings aren't translatable08:16
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bodhizazenCan I get some help with the Ubuntu wiki ?08:47
Madpilotevening, bodhizazen - just fire your questions off, someone will be along to help08:47
bodhizazenI can not log in to edit wiki pages08:48
bodhizazenI enter my password, get to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences08:49
bodhizazenwhen I then change to a page to edit I'm back to "Log in to edit"08:50
bodhizazenenter user name08:50
bodhizazenenter password08:50
LaserJockdid you reload the page?08:51
bodhizazenno08:51
bodhizazenon this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences08:51
bodhizazenI can either log out ...08:52
bodhizazenor save changes08:52
bodhizazenIf I save changes I get this : Please login before trying to save your preferences.08:53
bodhizazenwith this : Clear message08:53
bodhizazenwhich brings me here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences?action=show08:53
LaserJockif you log in08:55
LaserJockthen go back to the page you want to edit08:55
LaserJockand hit reload08:55
bodhizazenNo I do not08:55
bodhizazenI always go to the user preferences window08:55
bodhizazenwhich puts me in an endless loop08:56
bodhizazenWhen I go back to the page I want to edit08:56
bodhizazenI always get log in to edit08:56
bodhizazeneither using my browser forward/back /reload08:56
bodhizazenor entering a url08:56
bodhizazen:(08:56
bodhizazenOK I'm here :08:58
bodhizazenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ08:58
bodhizazenI need to transfer content here :08:59
LaserJockok08:59
bodhizazenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ08:59
LaserJockso if you go there and hit reload does that help?08:59
bodhizazenLog in here OK : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ09:00
bodhizazenCan edit that page ...09:00
bodhizazenwhich is how the content was added in the first place :009:00
bodhizazenK09:00
bodhizazennow go here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ09:00
bodhizazenPage does not exist ...09:01
bodhizazencreate new empty page ...09:01
bodhizazenOK that time I'm in ...09:02
bodhizazenTransferred content ...09:02
bodhizazenNeed to delete this page now : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ09:02
bodhizazenArgh it is an intermittent problem09:03
Madpilotbodhizazen, to delete a page, click the More Actions dropdown, choose Delete Page right at the bottom09:04
bodhizazenOK ...09:04
bodhizazenThat was one question, you do not mind if I delete pages then09:05
bodhizazen:)09:05
bodhizazendo you care if I document in community or the official ubuntu guide ?09:06
bodhizazenAnd any ideas on why I get caught in an endless log-in loop ?09:06
bodhizazeno,O09:06
bodhizazenIs my account locked from time to time ?09:07
bodhizazenIs it a problem that I need to log into the official guide first before community ?09:08
bodhizazenAnd why would that be ?09:08
LaserJocknormally we redirect ont delete09:08
Madpilotbodhizazen, if you haven't already, you should join the docteam/wikiteam mailing list. This channel can be pretty quiet - as you're discovering - and email is better for longer questions sometimes.09:12
bodhizazenK09:12
bodhizazenYou probably don't want to hear this, but this has been a pervasive problem09:13
Madpilotthe login issue? That sounds almost like a cookie issue w/ your browser09:13
bodhizazenI have 6 launchpad accounts ... The first 5 worked for a while ...09:13
bodhizazenthen this ...09:13
Madpilotouch09:13
bodhizazenthis is my 6th account ...09:13
Madpilot #launchpad is the LP admin hangout, it's another quiet channel but there are ppl there09:14
bodhizazenAnd now I need access because I started a Beginners Team in the Ubuntu Forums09:14
bodhizazenSo you will be seeing more of me09:14
bodhizazenI have wiki experience, all outside because of this problem ....09:15
Madpilotcool, I just noticed the Beginner's Team thread in the Absolute Beginner's forum09:15
Madpilotgood luck09:15
bodhizazen:)09:15
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Madpilotstupid roommate hogging the bathroom09:15
bodhizazenHey thanks for your help, I got done what I needed tonight ...09:15
Madpilotgood. if you've got time, join #launchpad and ask for help with that login issue - or just post to the docteam ML09:16
bodhizazendocteam contact ?09:16
Madpilothttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam09:17
bodhizazen:)09:17
Madpilot^^^ info on joining the mailing list and such there09:17
bodhizazenget some sleep Madpilot09:17
Madpilotg'night09:17
bodhizazen8)09:17
Madpilotbodhizazen, last thing: talk to mdke when he logs back in, he's head of docteam09:17
bodhizazenLaser_away, thanks ...09:26
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mdkemorning :)10:06
bodhizazenmdke, :)10:07
mdkeLaser_away: yes10:08
bodhizazenWanted to say hi10:08
bodhizazenyou may have seen me in the forums ...10:08
bodhizazenStarting a beginners Team :)10:08
bodhizazenWe are interested in starting a beginners wiki10:09
mdkewhat do you mean by that?10:09
bodhizazenintroduces ideas and then links to existing wiki pages for detailed info10:09
mdkehave you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions10:10
bodhizazen:)10:11
mdkeseems to have the same goals, you can probably simply work to improve that page10:11
bodhizazenI have a few experienced members of the team and we would like to work on existing pages as well ...10:12
mdkegood10:12
mdkeyou might also be interested in read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum10:12
bodhizazenI joined your mailing list earlier10:12
mdkethat's a project I tried to set up because I'm aware of all the good material on the forum which we'd like to integrate into our docs10:13
mdkeas yet there are no real contributors to the team though10:13
bodhizazenWell I hope to change that :)10:13
mdkethat would be really great10:14
mdkeanother user expressed interest on the mailing list in a similar idea recently10:14
bodhizazenI was having problems logging into the wiki ...10:14
mdkesorted now?10:14
bodhizazen??10:14
mdkedid you resolve the problems?10:14
bodhizazenI will be in touch if I have problems10:14
mdkefine. Look forward to hearing from you on the mailing list :)10:15
bodhizazenI have gotten requests for screen shots in the wiki10:15
mdkehave a read of those pages10:15
bodhizazenhow do you feel about that ?10:15
mdkesure, quite a lot of pages have screenshots10:16
bodhizazenWell wanted to say Hi10:16
bodhizazenI do not know if it would help if I were a member of your team ?10:17
mdkenice to have you on board. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide too if you haven't already10:17
bodhizazenI have wiki experience :)10:17
mdkesure, go ahead and join. instructions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiTeam10:17
mdkeprod me if I forget to approve you10:17
bodhizazenI would like to add a category ~ Beginners ?10:17
mdkelet's talk about that on the mailing list a bit10:18
bodhizazenK10:18
bodhizazenDid not see where to apply to your team ?10:18
bodhizazensaw your page on launchpad10:18
bodhizazenwhich is how I got the mailing list10:18
mdkethe page I posted last explains how to apply10:19
bodhizazenK10:19
mdkehave a read of all of those pages10:19
bodhizazen:)10:19
mdkeI have to go now, see you soon10:19
bodhizazenFYI our channel is #ubuntuforums-beginners10:19
mdkeok10:20
mdkeyou should feel free to hang out and discuss doc related things in here10:20
bodhizazen:)10:20
bodhizazenI'll do that thanks10:21
bodhizazen~ go do more important things ;010:21
bodhizazenAh ~ had to enable java to see the join button :)10:25
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mdkeLaser_away: looks like we'll be able to make pluggable topics for edubuntu :) Don has saved the day, I'm going to try the patch now09:25
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mdkeLaser_away: yep, works10:49
mdkenixternal: ^^10:49
jjessehiya11:00
jjessegrumble why can't this book finally be done11:00
mdke:)11:11
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Laser_awaymdke: rock on!!12:09

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