[12:16] right now it looks like it will gain weak approval [12:17] congrats on the new-look yelp guys. [12:18] i'm sure congrats are due to the kde guys away === dsas hugs the docteam [12:19] crimsun: hmm, sounds like an interesting situation. [12:20] uhm s/away/as well [12:20] I should go to bed. === Jisao [n=etchian@1meg-mtl-adsl219.securenet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:13] mdke nixternal: did you guys know that Universe is being turned on by default in Feisty? [01:14] yup [01:14] LaserJock: Universe and Multivers for Kubuntu, noted in help:/kubuntu/add-applications :) [01:14] excellent [01:14] I just found out [01:14] haha [01:14] wth, you are the mastah of the universe [01:14] they never told us [01:15] as far as I know [01:15] I knew it was in the works since UDS-Paris [01:15] but I didn't know the finally implemented it [01:17] wow since Paris, and within the past 2 or so weeks they finally did it [01:19] yep [01:19] hey, for MOTU, is it true another MOTU has to sign my key before I can even be considered? [01:19] it looks like the mostly did it because of the easy-codec installtion stuff [01:19] ahh [01:19] ya, easy codec garbage. [01:20] well ... [01:20] tbh my key was not signed by a Debian or Ubuntu dev before becoming a MOTU [01:20] it *was* signed [01:20] well I know a few people like that, but I heard it is the *new* rule [01:21] they best thing is to get a DD [01:21] there has to be a DD in the Chicago land area [01:21] there's a webpage to locate them [01:21] ya, I am looking for it [01:21] I thought I had it bookmarked [01:22] I honestly don't know what the policy is, I've never seen it written down [01:22] I saw your comment in brandon's blog [01:23] nixternal: https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php [01:23] nixternal: also see biglumber.com for general key signers (lots of familiar names there though) [01:23] I used biglumber to do mine [01:24] dsas: been on the biglumber thing for over a year, never had anyone even contact me [01:24] it'd be nice if they set a "distance" away from somebody you had to be [01:24] no parties in the area or anything related [01:24] nixternal: I just looked for somebody in Reno and emailed them [01:24] oh sweet, Carlo Segre is a DD [01:25] good deal, so there are 2 DDs in the Chicago area, and one is/was in the Chicago GLUG [01:25] nixternal: don't you run a loco team? you could do a key signing there. [01:25] dsas: we do key signings [01:25] we just don't have anyone cool :) === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:26] nixternal: ah. I guess at least once you get signed, you can pass on your coolness ;) [01:26] hehe [01:27] my gpg key signatures remind me of a community where incest is rampid, it just goes in like 1 big circle === kupesoft [n=dave@64.235.220.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-214-8-183.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mooey [n=cdr@service1.off-network.vault5.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:17] howdy. i'm triaging a bug in a package's man page, the man page has a mistake in it. do the doc team want to be subscribed to the bug or should it be fixed upstream? [02:17] upstream [02:17] thought as much, thanks LaserJock [02:18] np [02:21] nixternal: pingy [02:21] hiya LaserJock [02:21] hi jjesse [02:24] ok since no one is responding in #kubuntu, what's the easiest way to migrate from one kubuntu box to another w/o loosing any of my contacts/email/etc? [02:27] copy all of your .directories (probably .kde/)? [02:27] I'm not a kde user myself :) [02:27] and use imap for email :) [02:28] jjesse: you could tar up your ~/ [02:28] that's what I usually do [02:28] and then untar it? [02:29] yeah [02:29] I actually usually just untar it to ~/tmp or something [02:29] and copy in just the stuff I need [02:29] it kinda keeps things cleaned up [02:29] and I keep the tar file as a backup [02:29] interesting [02:30] it's my natural spring cleaning method ;-) === mooey [n=cdr@service1.off-network.vault5.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:07] LaserJock: pongy [03:08] jjesse, and once you've figured it out, create a "Migrate to another computer" assistant :-) [03:09] hehe [03:10] because it would be a bad look for Ubiquity to make it easier to migrate from Windows to Ubuntu than (K)Ubuntu to (K)Ubuntu [03:11] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal feisty * r3956 /kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): updated debian/ dir for kubuntu-docs [03:12] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3957 kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): feisty+1 debian updates - first upload - woooohoooo :) [03:13] mpt: you know what, don't think we have really looked at migrating for *buntu to *buntu, emphasis was always on Windows or Mac to *buntu [03:13] we have the small blurbs about Red Hat and other distros, but that would be a great piece of documentation, for feisty+1 of course :) === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:26] nixternal: awesome, I forgot what I was going to say [03:26] that's what I get for a contentless ping [03:26] lol [03:26] hiya ni [03:26] nixternal: [03:27] hiya jjesse :) [03:27] new dell latitude d820 came for work :) [03:28] nice [03:28] I am trying to replace a socket a mobo, talk about a pain [03:28] nobody is really selling them anymore [03:29] so, I have decided I should probably get a 64bit cheap mobo and cpu and just use all of my existing hardware [03:29] I can't push myself to spend the $65 to do so :) [03:29] cheap bastard [03:29] lol yes [03:29] man i'm tired [03:29] I am too [03:29] its hard to drive 5 hours [03:29] ouch, where did you drive 5 hours to/from? [03:30] columbus ohio to grand rapids mi [03:30] jjesse: ...that's short [03:30] oh that is a fun drive === tonyyarusso recently was doing 18 hour drives to school [03:30] 94 to 69/169 or whatever it is, down to columbus [03:30] i'm working in coubums for the next 3 weeks and come home on weekends to see wife [03:30] coubums ey [03:31] that was a very bad typo :) [03:31] hey i told you i'm sleepy [03:31] come on, I can columbus w/ my eyes closed ;p [03:31] hahahahahaha [03:31] I can type Columbus [03:31] OK, point taken [03:32] 18 hours to Florida :) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:14] man, these Edgy doc translation updates for the package that never got made is taking forever === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-219.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html [07:30] but there is no disk option in edgy === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-219.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [08:16] oh damn, I didn't remove the status="review" from the feisty docs :) [08:16] tis OK, they can be fixed before translations since the strings aren't translatable === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bodhizazen [n=bodhizaz@host-69-144-246-69.hln-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:47] Can I get some help with the Ubuntu wiki ? [08:47] evening, bodhizazen - just fire your questions off, someone will be along to help [08:48] I can not log in to edit wiki pages [08:49] I enter my password, get to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences [08:50] when I then change to a page to edit I'm back to "Log in to edit" [08:50] enter user name [08:50] enter password [08:51] did you reload the page? [08:51] no [08:51] on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences [08:52] I can either log out ... [08:52] or save changes [08:53] If I save changes I get this : Please login before trying to save your preferences. [08:53] with this : Clear message [08:53] which brings me here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences?action=show [08:55] if you log in [08:55] then go back to the page you want to edit [08:55] and hit reload [08:55] No I do not [08:55] I always go to the user preferences window [08:56] which puts me in an endless loop [08:56] When I go back to the page I want to edit [08:56] I always get log in to edit [08:56] either using my browser forward/back /reload [08:56] or entering a url [08:56] :( [08:58] OK I'm here : [08:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ [08:59] I need to transfer content here : [08:59] ok [08:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ [08:59] so if you go there and hit reload does that help? [09:00] Log in here OK : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ [09:00] Can edit that page ... [09:00] which is how the content was added in the first place :0 [09:00] K [09:00] now go here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ [09:01] Page does not exist ... [09:01] create new empty page ... [09:02] OK that time I'm in ... [09:02] Transferred content ... [09:02] Need to delete this page now : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ [09:03] Argh it is an intermittent problem [09:04] bodhizazen, to delete a page, click the More Actions dropdown, choose Delete Page right at the bottom [09:04] OK ... [09:05] That was one question, you do not mind if I delete pages then [09:05] :) [09:06] do you care if I document in community or the official ubuntu guide ? [09:06] And any ideas on why I get caught in an endless log-in loop ? [09:06] o,O [09:07] Is my account locked from time to time ? [09:08] Is it a problem that I need to log into the official guide first before community ? [09:08] And why would that be ? [09:08] normally we redirect ont delete [09:12] bodhizazen, if you haven't already, you should join the docteam/wikiteam mailing list. This channel can be pretty quiet - as you're discovering - and email is better for longer questions sometimes. [09:12] K [09:13] You probably don't want to hear this, but this has been a pervasive problem [09:13] the login issue? That sounds almost like a cookie issue w/ your browser [09:13] I have 6 launchpad accounts ... The first 5 worked for a while ... [09:13] then this ... [09:13] ouch [09:13] this is my 6th account ... [09:14] #launchpad is the LP admin hangout, it's another quiet channel but there are ppl there [09:14] And now I need access because I started a Beginners Team in the Ubuntu Forums [09:14] So you will be seeing more of me [09:15] I have wiki experience, all outside because of this problem .... [09:15] cool, I just noticed the Beginner's Team thread in the Absolute Beginner's forum [09:15] good luck [09:15] :) === Madpilot really does have to crash. [09:15] stupid roommate hogging the bathroom [09:15] Hey thanks for your help, I got done what I needed tonight ... [09:16] good. if you've got time, join #launchpad and ask for help with that login issue - or just post to the docteam ML [09:16] docteam contact ? [09:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam [09:17] :) [09:17] ^^^ info on joining the mailing list and such there [09:17] get some sleep Madpilot [09:17] g'night [09:17] 8) [09:17] bodhizazen, last thing: talk to mdke when he logs back in, he's head of docteam [09:26] Laser_away, thanks ... === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:06] morning :) [10:07] mdke, :) [10:08] Laser_away: yes [10:08] Wanted to say hi [10:08] you may have seen me in the forums ... [10:08] Starting a beginners Team :) [10:09] We are interested in starting a beginners wiki [10:09] what do you mean by that? [10:09] introduces ideas and then links to existing wiki pages for detailed info [10:10] have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions [10:11] :) [10:11] seems to have the same goals, you can probably simply work to improve that page [10:12] I have a few experienced members of the team and we would like to work on existing pages as well ... [10:12] good [10:12] you might also be interested in read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum [10:12] I joined your mailing list earlier [10:13] that's a project I tried to set up because I'm aware of all the good material on the forum which we'd like to integrate into our docs [10:13] as yet there are no real contributors to the team though [10:13] Well I hope to change that :) [10:14] that would be really great [10:14] another user expressed interest on the mailing list in a similar idea recently [10:14] I was having problems logging into the wiki ... [10:14] sorted now? [10:14] ?? [10:14] did you resolve the problems? [10:14] I will be in touch if I have problems [10:15] fine. Look forward to hearing from you on the mailing list :) [10:15] I have gotten requests for screen shots in the wiki [10:15] have a read of those pages [10:15] how do you feel about that ? [10:16] sure, quite a lot of pages have screenshots [10:16] Well wanted to say Hi [10:17] I do not know if it would help if I were a member of your team ? [10:17] nice to have you on board. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide too if you haven't already [10:17] I have wiki experience :) [10:17] sure, go ahead and join. instructions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiTeam [10:17] prod me if I forget to approve you [10:17] I would like to add a category ~ Beginners ? [10:18] let's talk about that on the mailing list a bit [10:18] K [10:18] Did not see where to apply to your team ? [10:18] saw your page on launchpad [10:18] which is how I got the mailing list [10:19] the page I posted last explains how to apply [10:19] K [10:19] have a read of all of those pages [10:19] :) [10:19] I have to go now, see you soon [10:19] FYI our channel is #ubuntuforums-beginners [10:20] ok [10:20] you should feel free to hang out and discuss doc related things in here [10:20] :) [10:21] I'll do that thanks [10:21] ~ go do more important things ;0 [10:25] Ah ~ had to enable java to see the join button :) === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8D67D4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8D67D4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kupesoft [n=dave@64.235.206.74] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACC8F1D5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === linuxphotogeek [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === linuxphotogeek [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === linuxphotogeek [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@212-139-96-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@c-24-21-235-175.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@212-139-96-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kupesoft [n=dave@64.235.206.74] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:25] Laser_away: looks like we'll be able to make pluggable topics for edubuntu :) Don has saved the day, I'm going to try the patch now === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-214-8-183.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:49] Laser_away: yep, works [10:49] nixternal: ^^ [11:00] hiya [11:00] grumble why can't this book finally be done [11:11] :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-214-8-183.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:09] mdke: rock on!!