[12:16] <crimsun> right now it looks like it will gain weak approval
[12:17] <dsas> congrats on the new-look yelp guys.
[12:18] <dsas> i'm sure congrats are due to the kde guys away
[12:19] <dsas> crimsun: hmm, sounds like an interesting situation.
[12:20] <dsas> uhm s/away/as well
[12:20] <dsas> I should go to bed.
[01:13] <LaserJock> mdke nixternal: did you guys know that Universe is being turned on by default in Feisty?
[01:14] <nixternal> yup
[01:14] <nixternal> LaserJock: Universe and Multivers for Kubuntu, noted in help:/kubuntu/add-applications :)
[01:14] <LaserJock> excellent
[01:14] <LaserJock> I just found out
[01:14] <nixternal> haha
[01:14] <nixternal> wth, you are the mastah of the universe
[01:14] <LaserJock> they never told us
[01:15] <LaserJock> as far as I know
[01:15] <LaserJock> I knew it was in the works since UDS-Paris
[01:15] <LaserJock> but I didn't know the finally implemented it
[01:17] <nixternal> wow since Paris, and within the past 2 or so weeks they finally did it
[01:19] <LaserJock> yep
[01:19] <nixternal> hey, for MOTU, is it true another MOTU has to sign my key before I can even be considered?
[01:19] <LaserJock> it looks like the mostly did it because of the easy-codec installtion stuff
[01:19] <nixternal> ahh
[01:19] <nixternal> ya, easy codec garbage.
[01:20] <LaserJock> well ...
[01:20] <LaserJock> tbh my key was not signed by a Debian or Ubuntu dev before becoming a MOTU
[01:20] <LaserJock> it *was* signed
[01:20] <nixternal> well I know a few people like that, but I heard it is the *new* rule
[01:21] <LaserJock> they best thing is to get a DD
[01:21] <nixternal> there has to be a DD in the Chicago land area
[01:21] <LaserJock> there's a webpage to locate them
[01:21] <nixternal> ya, I am looking for it
[01:21] <nixternal> I thought I had it bookmarked
[01:22] <LaserJock> I honestly don't know what the policy is, I've never seen it written down
[01:22] <LaserJock> I saw your comment in brandon's blog
[01:23] <dsas> nixternal: https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php
[01:23] <dsas> nixternal: also see biglumber.com for general key signers (lots of familiar names there though)
[01:23] <LaserJock> I used biglumber to do mine
[01:24] <nixternal> dsas: been on the biglumber thing for over a year, never had anyone even contact me
[01:24] <LaserJock> it'd be nice if they set a "distance" away from somebody you had to be
[01:24] <nixternal> no parties in the area or anything related
[01:24] <LaserJock> nixternal: I just looked for somebody in Reno and emailed them
[01:24] <nixternal> oh sweet, Carlo Segre is a DD
[01:25] <nixternal> good deal, so there are 2 DDs in the Chicago area, and one is/was in the Chicago GLUG
[01:25] <dsas> nixternal: don't you run a loco team? you could do a key signing there.
[01:25] <nixternal> dsas: we do key signings
[01:25] <nixternal> we just don't have anyone cool :)
[01:26] <dsas> nixternal: ah. I guess at least once you get signed, you can pass on your coolness ;)
[01:26] <nixternal> hehe
[01:27] <nixternal> my gpg key signatures remind me of a community where incest is rampid, it just goes in like 1 big circle
[02:17] <mooey> howdy. i'm triaging a bug in a package's man page, the man page has a mistake in it. do the doc team want to be subscribed to the bug or should it be fixed upstream?
[02:17] <LaserJock> upstream
[02:17] <mooey> thought as much, thanks LaserJock
[02:18] <LaserJock> np
[02:21] <LaserJock> nixternal: pingy
[02:21] <jjesse> hiya LaserJock
[02:21] <LaserJock> hi jjesse
[02:24] <jjesse> ok since no one is responding in #kubuntu, what's the easiest way to migrate from one kubuntu box to another w/o loosing any of my contacts/email/etc?
[02:27] <dsas> copy all of your .directories (probably .kde/)?
[02:27] <dsas> I'm not a kde user myself :)
[02:27] <dsas> and use imap for email :)
[02:28] <LaserJock> jjesse: you could tar up your ~/
[02:28] <LaserJock> that's what I usually do
[02:28] <jjesse> and then untar it?
[02:29] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:29] <LaserJock> I actually usually just untar it to ~/tmp or something
[02:29] <LaserJock> and copy in just the stuff I need
[02:29] <LaserJock> it kinda keeps things cleaned up
[02:29] <LaserJock> and I keep the tar file as a backup
[02:29] <jjesse> interesting
[02:30] <LaserJock> it's my natural spring cleaning method ;-)
[03:07] <nixternal> LaserJock: pongy
[03:08] <mpt> jjesse, and once you've figured it out, create a "Migrate to another computer" assistant :-)
[03:09] <nixternal> hehe
[03:10] <mpt> because it would be a bad look for Ubiquity to make it easier to migrate from Windows to Ubuntu than (K)Ubuntu to (K)Ubuntu
[03:11] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal feisty * r3956 /kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): updated debian/ dir for kubuntu-docs
[03:12] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3957 kubuntu/debian/ (8 files): feisty+1 debian updates - first upload - woooohoooo :)
[03:13] <nixternal> mpt: you know what, don't think we have really looked at migrating for *buntu to *buntu, emphasis was always on Windows or Mac to *buntu
[03:13] <nixternal> we have the small blurbs about Red Hat and other distros, but that would be a great piece of documentation, for feisty+1 of course :)
[03:26] <LaserJock> nixternal: awesome, I forgot what I was going to say
[03:26] <LaserJock> that's what I get for a contentless ping
[03:26] <nixternal> lol
[03:26] <jjesse> hiya ni
[03:26] <jjesse> nixternal:
[03:27] <nixternal> hiya jjesse :)
[03:27] <jjesse> new dell latitude d820 came for work :)
[03:28] <nixternal> nice
[03:28] <nixternal> I am trying to replace a socket a mobo, talk about a pain
[03:28] <nixternal> nobody is really selling them anymore
[03:29] <nixternal> so, I have decided I should probably get a 64bit cheap mobo and cpu and just use all of my existing hardware
[03:29] <nixternal> I can't push myself to spend the $65 to do so :)
[03:29] <jjesse> cheap bastard
[03:29] <nixternal> lol yes
[03:29] <jjesse> man i'm tired
[03:29] <nixternal> I am too
[03:29] <jjesse> its hard to drive 5 hours
[03:29] <nixternal> ouch, where did you drive 5 hours to/from?
[03:30] <jjesse> columbus ohio to grand rapids mi
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> jjesse: ...that's short
[03:30] <nixternal> oh that is a fun drive
[03:30] <nixternal> 94 to 69/169 or whatever it is, down to columbus
[03:30] <jjesse> i'm working in coubums for the next 3 weeks and come home on weekends to see wife
[03:30] <nixternal> coubums ey
[03:31] <nixternal> that was a very bad typo :)
[03:31] <jjesse> hey i told you i'm sleepy
[03:31] <nixternal> come on, I can columbus w/ my eyes closed ;p
[03:31] <nixternal> hahahahahaha
[03:31] <nixternal> I can type Columbus
[03:31] <nixternal> OK, point taken
[03:32] <nixternal> 18 hours to Florida :)
[07:14] <nixternal> man, these Edgy doc translation updates for the package that never got made is taking forever
[07:29] <poningru> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html
[07:30] <poningru> but there is no disk option in edgy
[08:16] <nixternal> oh damn, I didn't remove the status="review" from the feisty docs :)
[08:16] <nixternal> tis OK, they can be fixed before translations since the strings aren't translatable
[08:47] <bodhizazen> Can I get some help with the Ubuntu wiki ?
[08:47] <Madpilot> evening, bodhizazen - just fire your questions off, someone will be along to help
[08:48] <bodhizazen> I can not log in to edit wiki pages
[08:49] <bodhizazen> I enter my password, get to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
[08:50] <bodhizazen> when I then change to a page to edit I'm back to "Log in to edit"
[08:50] <bodhizazen> enter user name
[08:50] <bodhizazen> enter password
[08:51] <LaserJock> did you reload the page?
[08:51] <bodhizazen> no
[08:51] <bodhizazen> on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
[08:52] <bodhizazen> I can either log out ...
[08:52] <bodhizazen> or save changes
[08:53] <bodhizazen> If I save changes I get this : Please login before trying to save your preferences.
[08:53] <bodhizazen> with this : Clear message
[08:53] <bodhizazen> which brings me here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences?action=show
[08:55] <LaserJock> if you log in
[08:55] <LaserJock> then go back to the page you want to edit
[08:55] <LaserJock> and hit reload
[08:55] <bodhizazen> No I do not
[08:55] <bodhizazen> I always go to the user preferences window
[08:56] <bodhizazen> which puts me in an endless loop
[08:56] <bodhizazen> When I go back to the page I want to edit
[08:56] <bodhizazen> I always get log in to edit
[08:56] <bodhizazen> either using my browser forward/back /reload
[08:56] <bodhizazen> or entering a url
[08:56] <bodhizazen> :(
[08:58] <bodhizazen> OK I'm here :
[08:58] <bodhizazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ
[08:59] <bodhizazen> I need to transfer content here :
[08:59] <LaserJock> ok
[08:59] <bodhizazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ
[08:59] <LaserJock> so if you go there and hit reload does that help?
[09:00] <bodhizazen> Log in here OK : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ
[09:00] <bodhizazen> Can edit that page ...
[09:00] <bodhizazen> which is how the content was added in the first place :0
[09:00] <bodhizazen> K
[09:00] <bodhizazen> now go here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ
[09:01] <bodhizazen> Page does not exist ...
[09:01] <bodhizazen> create new empty page ...
[09:02] <bodhizazen> OK that time I'm in ...
[09:02] <bodhizazen> Transferred content ...
[09:02] <bodhizazen> Need to delete this page now : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForums/Beginners_FAQ
[09:03] <bodhizazen> Argh it is an intermittent problem
[09:04] <Madpilot> bodhizazen, to delete a page, click the More Actions dropdown, choose Delete Page right at the bottom
[09:04] <bodhizazen> OK ...
[09:05] <bodhizazen> That was one question, you do not mind if I delete pages then
[09:05] <bodhizazen> :)
[09:06] <bodhizazen> do you care if I document in community or the official ubuntu guide ?
[09:06] <bodhizazen> And any ideas on why I get caught in an endless log-in loop ?
[09:06] <bodhizazen> o,O
[09:07] <bodhizazen> Is my account locked from time to time ?
[09:08] <bodhizazen> Is it a problem that I need to log into the official guide first before community ?
[09:08] <bodhizazen> And why would that be ?
[09:08] <LaserJock> normally we redirect ont delete
[09:12] <Madpilot> bodhizazen, if you haven't already, you should join the docteam/wikiteam mailing list. This channel can be pretty quiet - as you're discovering - and email is better for longer questions sometimes.
[09:12] <bodhizazen> K
[09:13] <bodhizazen> You probably don't want to hear this, but this has been a pervasive problem
[09:13] <Madpilot> the login issue? That sounds almost like a cookie issue w/ your browser
[09:13] <bodhizazen> I have 6 launchpad accounts ... The first 5 worked for a while ...
[09:13] <bodhizazen> then this ...
[09:13] <Madpilot> ouch
[09:13] <bodhizazen> this is my 6th account ...
[09:14] <Madpilot>  #launchpad is the LP admin hangout, it's another quiet channel but there are ppl there
[09:14] <bodhizazen> And now I need access because I started a Beginners Team in the Ubuntu Forums
[09:14] <bodhizazen> So you will be seeing more of me
[09:15] <bodhizazen> I have wiki experience, all outside because of this problem ....
[09:15] <Madpilot> cool, I just noticed the Beginner's Team thread in the Absolute Beginner's forum
[09:15] <Madpilot> good luck
[09:15] <bodhizazen> :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> stupid roommate hogging the bathroom
[09:15] <bodhizazen> Hey thanks for your help, I got done what I needed tonight ...
[09:16] <Madpilot> good. if you've got time, join #launchpad and ask for help with that login issue - or just post to the docteam ML
[09:16] <bodhizazen> docteam contact ?
[09:17] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[09:17] <bodhizazen> :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> ^^^ info on joining the mailing list and such there
[09:17] <bodhizazen> get some sleep Madpilot
[09:17] <Madpilot> g'night
[09:17] <bodhizazen> 8)
[09:17] <Madpilot> bodhizazen, last thing: talk to mdke when he logs back in, he's head of docteam
[09:26] <bodhizazen> Laser_away, thanks ...
[10:06] <mdke> morning :)
[10:07] <bodhizazen> mdke, :)
[10:08] <mdke> Laser_away: yes
[10:08] <bodhizazen> Wanted to say hi
[10:08] <bodhizazen> you may have seen me in the forums ...
[10:08] <bodhizazen> Starting a beginners Team :)
[10:09] <bodhizazen> We are interested in starting a beginners wiki
[10:09] <mdke> what do you mean by that?
[10:09] <bodhizazen> introduces ideas and then links to existing wiki pages for detailed info
[10:10] <mdke> have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[10:11] <bodhizazen> :)
[10:11] <mdke> seems to have the same goals, you can probably simply work to improve that page
[10:12] <bodhizazen> I have a few experienced members of the team and we would like to work on existing pages as well ...
[10:12] <mdke> good
[10:12] <mdke> you might also be interested in read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum
[10:12] <bodhizazen> I joined your mailing list earlier
[10:13] <mdke> that's a project I tried to set up because I'm aware of all the good material on the forum which we'd like to integrate into our docs
[10:13] <mdke> as yet there are no real contributors to the team though
[10:13] <bodhizazen> Well I hope to change that :)
[10:14] <mdke> that would be really great
[10:14] <mdke> another user expressed interest on the mailing list in a similar idea recently
[10:14] <bodhizazen> I was having problems logging into the wiki ...
[10:14] <mdke> sorted now?
[10:14] <bodhizazen> ??
[10:14] <mdke> did you resolve the problems?
[10:14] <bodhizazen> I will be in touch if I have problems
[10:15] <mdke> fine. Look forward to hearing from you on the mailing list :)
[10:15] <bodhizazen> I have gotten requests for screen shots in the wiki
[10:15] <mdke> have a read of those pages
[10:15] <bodhizazen> how do you feel about that ?
[10:16] <mdke> sure, quite a lot of pages have screenshots
[10:16] <bodhizazen> Well wanted to say Hi
[10:17] <bodhizazen> I do not know if it would help if I were a member of your team ?
[10:17] <mdke> nice to have you on board. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide too if you haven't already
[10:17] <bodhizazen> I have wiki experience :)
[10:17] <mdke> sure, go ahead and join. instructions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiTeam
[10:17] <mdke> prod me if I forget to approve you
[10:17] <bodhizazen> I would like to add a category ~ Beginners ?
[10:18] <mdke> let's talk about that on the mailing list a bit
[10:18] <bodhizazen> K
[10:18] <bodhizazen> Did not see where to apply to your team ?
[10:18] <bodhizazen> saw your page on launchpad
[10:18] <bodhizazen> which is how I got the mailing list
[10:19] <mdke> the page I posted last explains how to apply
[10:19] <bodhizazen> K
[10:19] <mdke> have a read of all of those pages
[10:19] <bodhizazen> :)
[10:19] <mdke> I have to go now, see you soon
[10:19] <bodhizazen> FYI our channel is #ubuntuforums-beginners
[10:20] <mdke> ok
[10:20] <mdke> you should feel free to hang out and discuss doc related things in here
[10:20] <bodhizazen> :)
[10:21] <bodhizazen> I'll do that thanks
[10:21] <bodhizazen> ~ go do more important things ;0
[10:25] <bodhizazen> Ah ~ had to enable java to see the join button :)
[09:25] <mdke> Laser_away: looks like we'll be able to make pluggable topics for edubuntu :) Don has saved the day, I'm going to try the patch now
[10:49] <mdke> Laser_away: yep, works
[10:49] <mdke> nixternal: ^^
[11:00] <jjesse> hiya
[11:00] <jjesse> grumble why can't this book finally be done
[11:11] <mdke> :)
[12:09] <Laser_away> mdke: rock on!!