[12:01] <LordLimecat> deepbluegene: (or anyone wondering about beryl) very good beryl walkthrough (requires SLIGHT terminal knowledge) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[12:01] <jimmygoon> "the client just controls the server".... and you are recommending flash frontends to stream the media (unless I'm confused)
[12:01] <iMilad> elhesius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323661
[12:01] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, when I try to run an ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 desktop CD, my computer locks up at the splash screen and menu.  The 5.10 CDs load, though.
[12:01] <|Jason8|> Is there a way I can install 6.06 or 6.10?
[12:02] <LordLimecat> jimmygoon or whoevers askin about controlling the server
[12:02] <Steil> thanks jimmygoon, mpd seems pretty straightforward
[12:02] <vox754> sethk, Actually I created the /boot partition in the first place because I read it somewhere, when I was trying to use SUSE. But then I didn't know exactly what was the deal with it. Now that you brought it up, it seems right. Do you think it should matter if I stop that daemon?
[12:02] <LordLimecat> VLC front end will allow anyone who uses the web interface to control playback on the actual server
[12:02] <holycow> jimmygoon, put me on your ignore list, i'm not interested in speaking with you
[12:03] <gyaresu> holycow: Steil It makes sense because the headless server is probably plugged into his stereo.
[12:03] <jimmygoon> holycow, why are you being so obnoxious. I'm trying to help.
[12:03] <sethk> vox754, it will prevent some error messages from being written to the log.  You should be able to start it again, after umounting /boot
[12:03] <holycow> jimmygoon, your trying to help me for some reason, i'm not interested.  now go away.
[12:03] <gyaresu> !etiquette | holycow
[12:03] <ubotu> holycow: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:03] <jimmygoon> no, I'm not. I'm helping Steil
[12:03] <holycow> gyaresu, that goes for you too, put me on your ignore list
[12:03] <LordLimecat> o.0
[12:03] <LordLimecat> wow, dude, just chill
[12:03] <Steil> man oh man, the irc channel is getting almost as bad as the forums
[12:03] <LordLimecat> noones on the attack here
[12:04] <sethk> children, children ...
[12:04] <ephesius1> iMilad: idk if you said anything else but i got disconnected
[12:04] <holycow> Steil, not at all, its just me
[12:04] <holycow> :)
[12:04] <iMilad> ephesius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323661
[12:04] <holycow> Steil, glad you found something that fits your need
[12:04] <gyaresu> holycow: How about you stop acting so agressive and try and be a little more relaxed. Some of these people are completely new.
[12:04] <holycow> gyaresu, i told you, stop talking to me.  i have nothing to say to you
[12:04] <LordLimecat> what was it that was the philosophy behind ubuntu again?
[12:04] <deepbluegene> LordLimecat: thanx. now i will go through forums and try to follow the instructions  and come back later here to tel whether i succeeded or failed.thanx for ur help.
[12:04] <Steil> /ignore is pretty useful
[12:04] <holycow> exactly
[12:04] <LordLimecat> :)
[12:04] <sethk> LordLimecat, something about being friendly, I think.
[12:04] <jimmygoon> then why don't you put him in your "ignore list" ...
[12:05] <metal> quick question: I'm starting a new job that uses Ubuntu and I want to setup a li'l box to familiarize myself Ubuntu and Drupal. Would you assume they are running the 6.06 LTS release, or should I go with the 6.10.
[12:05] <holycow> i welcome your ignore list
[12:05] <holycow> lol
[12:05] <ephesius1> iMilad: thanks ill try that
[12:05] <LordLimecat> thought so
[12:05] <LordLimecat> just wanted to make sure this wasnt #windows
[12:05] <Pablo> my ubuntu install is wanting to do a dst upgrade... but I am already running 6.10
[12:05] <Pablo> wtf
[12:05] <gyaresu> Steil: Unless you're trying to monitor rude people hassling others...
[12:05] <holycow> metal, either will work fine
[12:05] <sethk> LordLimecat, don't say that word, it makes smoke come out of my computer
[12:05] <b0ng0> Hi I was wondering if someone can help me, I installed a new login screen using KDM and now I cant get the original back :s
[12:05] <holycow> gyaresu, i'm not hassing steil, i'm hassling you.  you refuse to put me on y our ignore list
[12:05] <metal> holycow, thanks bro.
[12:05] <orangefly> is there a setting in beryl that can mess up your sound....???....
[12:05] <LordLimecat> sethk: windows has its place, IMO.....
[12:05] <gyaresu> !etiquette | holycow
[12:05] <ubotu> holycow: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:06] <stonarmusic> anyone ever install the avasys drivers for an epson scanner?
[12:06] <crimsun> orangefly: ...no
[12:06] <gyaresu> holycow: Stop hassling anyone.
[12:06] <holycow> metal, yeah no worries.  we use it, either one would get you familiar with it enough to get you in
[12:06] <holycow> gyaresu, go away
[12:06] <sethk> LordLimecat, yes, it does, I was just being funny. well, trying to be funny, anyway
[12:06] <orangefly> or emerald
[12:06] <LordLimecat> lol
[12:06] <cafuego_> metal: Do they have a public site that I could check apache or php versions on? :-)
[12:06] <gyaresu> ops? Someone please tell holycow to behave...
[12:06] <Pablo> why is my 6.10 wanting to do a dist upgrade to 6.10?
[12:06] <LordLimecat> just want to make sure, there are some ppl who really are so elitist that they think windows is useless
[12:06] <posingaspopular> ee99ee: i forget what i suggested brb food
[12:06] <LordLimecat> competition is good
[12:06] <c_ubuntu_novice> i just can't figure out how to change permissions on files and folders.  Does anyone know of any helpful URLs that describes this?
[12:06] <posingaspopular> oh wait
[12:06] <posingaspopular> ummm
[12:06] <gyaresu> non2: You still got the res problem?
[12:06] <orangefly> crimsun, or emerald
[12:06] <posingaspopular> you have to compile them from source
[12:06] <crimsun> gyaresu: / holycow: can you two take your spat to query, please?
[12:06] <LordLimecat> as long as it will make creative and logitech eventually support ubuntu >:(
[12:06] <posingaspopular> !rpm
[12:06] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:06] <holycow> *sigh* funny, leave me alone due.  i didn't talk to you i am not interested in talking to you
[12:06] <sethk> LordLimecat, not me, I use whatever makes my life easier.
[12:06] <posingaspopular> brb
[12:07] <LordLimecat> me too :D
[12:07] <metal> cafuego_, i'm not that naive =] 
[12:07] <stonarmusic> im trying to compile the source tarball
[12:07] <LordLimecat> holycow...not to but in......
[12:07] <LordLimecat> but wouldnt it be easier if everyone moved on
[12:07] <LordLimecat> and just...pretended it didnt happen?
[12:07] <cafuego_> metal: No, I mean: you cna get apache/php info from the web server (if they have one) which would tell you which ubuntu version they use.
[12:07] <holycow> i'm just asking someone to stop talking to me
[12:07] <xoin> hi, if i installed the nvidia drivers my xserver crashes what to do?
[12:07] <Rocito> how do i /  is there a way to install the following firefox plugins: -flash 8   - java runtime env. 5 (i installed the JRE .bin by sh <filename>.bin  but firefox doesnt recognise it)
[12:07] <holycow> its not unreasonable
[12:07] <yomm> lol the mplayer man is like an encyclopedia :)
[12:07] <LordLimecat> i suppose thats true
[12:07] <holycow> okay next question :)
[12:08] <ee99ee> posingaspopular: but I don't have the source, I only have RPMs
[12:08] <ee99ee> and not SRPMs
[12:08] <LordLimecat> heres yer next question:
[12:08] <crimsun> orangefly: no, not probable
[12:08] <LordLimecat> i want to kill off an entire session
[12:08] <LordLimecat> how?
[12:08] <LordLimecat> (ie, tty7)
[12:08] <non2> gyaresu: yes.. or have you postet something to solve it i havent seen?
[12:08] <LordLimecat> i KNOW theres a way to do it
[12:08] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: X, you mean? ctrl-alt-backpsace
[12:08] <LordLimecat> lets say that doesnt work
[12:09] <gyaresu> non2: Is it from the install cd that you can't get to the terminals?
[12:09] <LordLimecat> and all i have is a terminal
[12:09] <LordLimecat> i want the commandline way
[12:09] <b0ng0> does anyone know how i can get my original login screen back?
[12:09] <metal> holycow, i would assume there will be less updating packages so i'll go with the latest version.
[12:09] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:09] <LordLimecat> cafuego: i mean in general, what if tty6 acts up
[12:09] <LordLimecat> and i need to kill it
[12:09] <LordLimecat> i dont just mean x
[12:09] <holycow> metal, that won't matter.   you will need to know whatever package version is being used.  we use lts only and wont EVER consider any of the inbetween releases, other businesses my be more lax
[12:09] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: ps x, find out the problematic app, kill it.
[12:10] <non2> gyaresu: no.. i have installed it from an alternate cd to my py
[12:10] <holycow> metal, variation in package features between releases is fairly minor tho, so you should be fine
[12:10] <non2> pc
[12:10] <LordLimecat> cafuego: that will only work on x o.0 again, what if its a terminal session that needs killing
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Why would it only work on X?
[12:10] <gyaresu> non2: So can you get to the login screen? And then to the desktop?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> you said to ps x
[12:10] <Rocito> bump.. anyone got a quick guide to installing java runtime environment and flash 8 ?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> o.0
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: yes, and?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> like, isnt there a way to find all processes in a certain tty and kill it
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Open a console and see what 'ps x' does.
[12:10] <non2> gyaresu: yes.. i'm logged in right now
[12:11] <Tangee> is it possible to change to default startup screen of xgl (shoddy old x server startup, black/white screen with a black 'X' cursor)?
[12:11] <metal> holycow, thanks for the advice.
[12:11] <jimmygoon> cafuego, I don't know what it means but I've always done "ps ax"
[12:11] <holycow> Rocito, there is no flash 8, there is flash 9.  i think flash 9 is already packaged and backported but you can just put the .so and .xpi files into /usr/shared/firefox/plugins
[12:11] <holycow> metal, yeah no worries, have fun
[12:11] <cafuego_> jimmygoon: Yeah, more info (including the terminal) that way.
[12:11] <holycow> !java
[12:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:11] <LordLimecat> cafuego: just did....to clarify......
[12:11] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[12:11] <LordLimecat>  3562 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[12:11] <gyaresu> non2: So you're logged in at the desktop etc. but you can't change to the vt's without them being all fuzzy?
[12:11] <holycow> Rocito, for java thats the info
[12:11] <holycow> !flash
[12:11] <LordLimecat> say i want to kill ALL procs tagged tty6
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:12] <holycow> ah flash 9 info, there you go
[12:12] <LordLimecat> with no keyboard shortcuts, ONLY terminal commands accessible from tty5
[12:12] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Normally uyou'd not need to kill getty, but just the application running on tty6 (usually your shell).
[12:12] <Rocito> holycow, so i cant use synaptic to install the newest flash (9 then)?  ok thanks !
[12:12] <non2> gyaresu: yes.. that is the problem
[12:12] <xoin> hi, if i installed the nvidia drivers my xserver crashes what to do? it only gives me a error that the config file is not good
[12:12] <LordLimecat> getty was an example
[12:12] <holycow> flash9 yes, java, i think now that its gpl you can too but don't remember i don't use it much
[12:12] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[12:12] <jimmygoon> LordLimecat, you could probably chain ps x | grep tty7 | kill (something) ... I really don't know how to use pipes at all but maybe someone else does?
[12:13] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Are you just after a beautifully crafted bash/awk  oneliner?
[12:13] <LordLimecat> wait, you mean if i kill the parent app, it will ALWAYS (100.0000%) kill ALL children on that terminal?
[12:13] <LordLimecat> yes :)
[12:13] <LordLimecat> i am
[12:13] <LordLimecat> i thought there might be a way (ie, kill -someoption tty6)
[12:13] <gyaresu> non2: I can only imagine it's a resolution or framebuffer problem, but the fix... You checked out the link to !fixres right?
[12:13] <putterson> could somebody help me to set up my logitech mx revolution on my edgy laptop
[12:13] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Yes, killing the parent will kill the children UNLESS you have a blocked process, in which case you end up with a zombie.
[12:13] <holycow> Maul555, chances are its your ogl screen savers ... try disabling all screen savers except maybe 1 that isn't ogl enabled and see if that changes the behaviour.  if thats what it is, your driver is crashing during one of the ogl ones and  you will need to remove them if you want randomized screen savers
[12:13] <zero> hey, i just installed Kubuntu 6.06 on my computer and i cant start the GUI, can anyone help?
[12:13] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[12:13] <LordLimecat> and theres no way to terminate em all?
[12:13] <Maul555> oh...
[12:13] <gyaresu> !mouse | putterson
[12:13] <ubotu> putterson: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:14] <sethk> LordLimecat, you can start the child app with nohup if you don't want it to terminate
[12:14] <stonarmusic> I get this error when i run make:  ltdl.h: No such file or directory
[12:14] <LordLimecat> and if you want such a process killed?
[12:14] <LordLimecat> thats what im after
[12:14] <metal> lol it shouldnt be hard to figure out which version, we are running one of the mirrors from this campus.
[12:14] <LordLimecat> all of em, even zombies, frozen, paused, etc
[12:14] <LordLimecat> all of em terminated
[12:14] <foormea> hey all. could anyone tell me whether it is hal that is responsible for automounting usb thumbdrives to /media/usbdisk ?
[12:14] <metal> thanks guys, take care.
[12:14] <[0`0] > Hi, i running debian, how i can install KDE?
[12:14] <non2> gyaresu: i just checked out the thing with the framebuffer.. there was nothing about fixres on the page
[12:14] <vox754> sethk, Now that I view it this way. Ubuntu keeps a constant kernel log "/var/log/kern.log" along with the other auth.log, daemon.log, debug,messages, syslog, user.log, and Xorg.0.log
[12:14] <LordLimecat> does the thing im looking for simply not exist?
[12:15] <xtknight> LordLimecat, you can't kill zombies or defuncts
[12:15] <whonicca> why do i have to do a dist-upgrade to update some packages?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> i see
[12:15] <holycow> you just let them die
[12:15] <Maul555> holycow: ill try that, thanks
[12:15] <holycow> the kernel will kill them
[12:15] <jimmygoon> [0`0] , try #debian
[12:15] <zero> hey, i just installed Kubuntu 6.06 on my computer and i cant start the GUI, can anyone help?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> so really, killall X would do it
[12:15] <holycow> Maul555, sure no worries
[12:15] <xtknight> they are zombie or defunct since they're waiting on a handle.  kiling the parent process kills them.  see the 'pstree' command.  last resort before reboot is init 1/ init 5 to get rid of em
[12:15] <gyaresu> non2: What's you gfx card?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> or killall getty?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> but that would kill ALL my terminals
[12:15] <xtknight> LordLimecat, killall init, but init 1 is the proper version
[12:16] <holycow> xtknight, good point *nod* what he said
[12:16] <[0`0] > ups
[12:16] <non2> gyaresu: an ati x800xt pcie, and i already installed the atxi drivers
[12:16] <[0`0] > wrong :)
[12:16] <tdn> What is the current recommended way of getting libdvdcss2?
[12:16] <cafuego_> LordLimecat:  ps xa | awk '/([0-9] +) tty6/ {print $1}' | sudo xargs kill -9
[12:16] <[0`0] > i running ubuntu ... how i can install KDE
[12:16] <PriceChild> !dvd | tdn
[12:16] <ubotu> tdn: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:16] <holycow> !libdvdcss2
[12:16] <CorpseFeeder> my printing has stopped working... All I get is "printer not connected". This just started within the last couple of days. What could the problem be? What other info do I need to give?
[12:17] <[0`0] > ! KDE
[12:17] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:17] <LordLimecat> i see
[12:17] <jimmygoon> [0`0] , You can either install the kde environment or you can install the kubuntu-desktop package that effectively converts your install to a kubuntu install (ie: boot screen, gdm, etc are changed)
[12:17] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:17] <l3oddah> i'm using ubuntu 6.10 and i've installed it on a laptop and installled the gnome network manager, but it doesn't show my wireless card, the wireless card is working fine but just not showing up in that manager
[12:17] <LordLimecat> that IS what i was lookin for
[12:17] <LordLimecat> just hoped it was simpler than that
[12:17] <LordLimecat> :(
[12:17] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, is it a local printer? usb? if  you delete the printer, unplug the printer and replug it ... does it show up automagically when you try to add a pritner again in the first dialog?
[12:17] <LordLimecat> thanks for the help tho
[12:17] <xtknight> LordLimecat, unfortunately not
[12:17] <LordLimecat> its been bugging me forever
[12:17] <gyaresu> non2: Sorry, I don't know.
[12:17] <cafuego_> making it too easy to kill things is never good ;-)
[12:17] <StoneNote> l3oddah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <LordLimecat> i SWEAR my linux teacher did it easier, years back
[12:18] <odix> anyone have a geforce mx 420
[12:18] <PriceChild> !anyone | odix
[12:18] <ubotu> odix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:18] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: that said, you can script that oneliner into a shellscript and make it eat a tty as parameter.
[12:18] <cafuego_> poningru: Yeah, it's not quite right, is it?
[12:18] <LordLimecat> killall poningru
[12:18] <poningru> zonoes
[12:18] <LordLimecat> i get  the idea
[12:19] <Bajsorvar> Hey. I need some help guys. What do I need to do to be able to increase my screen resolution to 1280x1024 with an ATI card?
[12:19] <LordLimecat> its been a while, i can relearn awk and grep
[12:19] <LordLimecat> theyre beautiful when they work
[12:19] <holycow> !resolution
[12:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:19] <lesshaste> what's the command to find and install the latest security updates?
[12:19] <non2> gyaresu: ok, but anyways thanks for the effort
[12:19] <LordLimecat> do you realize that they run faster than native windows commands, even when running on windows using gnuwin?
[12:19] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: it is a local USB printer (Canon Pixma iP3000), it uses the commercial Turboprint drivers. If I delete it and add it again it still says "not connected" if I try to print anything to it.
[12:19] <holycow> Bajsorvar, basically you need the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor model and make.  we don't have a gui for this yet
[12:19] <jimmygoon> lesshaste, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:19] <gyaresu> non2: :( sorry.
[12:19] <LordLimecat> its insane'
[12:19] <blanky> hey in gnome do you guys know how to make it so that my firefox, when maximized, truely is maximized? right now it's in between bottom and top panels and it's really pissing me off
[12:19] <alienseer23> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to set up an infared remote control for Ubuntu?
[12:19] <lesshaste> jimmygoon: won't that install all updates?
[12:19] <odix> whos got tv out working with geforce mx 420
[12:20] <omglazers> Hey; I was trying to get a small installation of windows xp for a backup onto the same drive as a linux installation. I know it was incorrect to do it linux,windows order but I had to. Windows place it's booter in the MBR. I placed my GRUB however for the windows and linux into a 50 mb partition at the front of the drive. If I dd out the mbr, will it resume normally with the GRUB? Also, what command should I use to avoid deleting the partition tables/ Isnt 
[12:20] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, oh damn canon?  i can't help that and i don't use turboprint although i looked at it.
[12:20] <alienseer23> or...how do I configure lirc, please?
[12:20] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, might i nonhelpfully suggest the turboprint forums or something?  i don't know i'm sorry
[12:20] <sethk> omglazers, dd would indeed replace the partition table
[12:20] <jimmygoon> lesshaste, yes it will sorry, I didn't know you wanted security specifically, I don't know how to do that
[12:20] <lesshaste> I meant just the security updates
[12:20] <sethk> omglazers, best thing to do is write down the partition table, use dd, then use fdisk to restore the partition table
[12:20] <lesshaste> jimmygoon: ok thanks
[12:20] <lesshaste> anyone know?
[12:20] <alienseer23> !lirc
[12:20] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[12:20] <omglazers> sethk: I thought you can use dd to only get rid of the begining non-partition table areas
[12:21] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, i don't buy canon for that very reason, hp is well supported and Brother is actually AMAZING for printers ... they even have debian installers for their drivers ... but yeah thats a non answer
[12:21] <sethk> omglazers, no, because the minimum you can write is 512, and that includes the partition table
[12:21] <cafuego_> LordLimecat:  ps xa | awk '/([ ] *)([0-9] +) tty6/ {print $1}' | sudo xargs kill -9
[12:21] <Hydr0p0nX> how big of a deal is it to upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[12:21] <Fer> Hey guys, another question:  Why can't i write TO my external HD but i can READ From?
[12:21] <Fer> how can i make it so i can do both?
[12:21] <jimmygoon> Fer, what FS?
[12:21] <holycow> Hydr0p0nX, right now i STRONGLY urge you to not try that.  do a clean install
[12:21] <posingaspopular> permissions
[12:21] <PriceChild> Fer, what FS?
[12:21] <PriceChild> Fer, ntfs?
[12:21] <cafuego_> awk '/^([ ] *)([0-9] +) tty6/ {print $1}'    even - need to start match from that of line :-)
[12:22] <gyaresu> !upgrade | Hydr0p0nX:
[12:22] <ubotu> Hydr0p0nX:: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:22] <holycow> Hydr0p0nX, the upgrade path, unlike debian, has not been thoroughly tested.  there is a project under way to fix this for the next set of releases
[12:22] <Fer> FS?
[12:22] <jimmygoon> !filesystem
[12:22] <Fer> hmm
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <jimmygoon> !filesystems
[12:22] <LordLimecat> !ntfs
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <PriceChild> Fer, ntfs or fat32?
[12:22] <jimmygoon> :( lame
[12:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:22] <holycow> if you do upgrade, make sure you have your stuff backed up, ther eis a very large likelyhood that your system will end up in a borked state
[12:22] <cafuego_> I suppose I should make it 1-5 digits, too
[12:22] <Hydr0p0nX> fair enough, i haven't installed yet and since I had it here thought i'd install then just update
[12:22] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: yes, but for now I'm stuck with it :( , and untill just recently, the turboprint drivers were functioning great...
[12:22] <Fer> i believe it's on NTFS
[12:23] <cafuego_> we'll leave that as an excercise for the reade
[12:23] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, i have only heard great stuff about turbo print.  your using their gui dealie for this?
[12:23] <computrius> im trying to get a prism 2.5 based card to work (dwl 520) and ive read that I need hostap
[12:23] <lesshaste> what's the command to find and install the latest security updates?
[12:23] <vox754> cafuego, how do you check for a real number like that ^[0-9] +(\.)?([0.9] *)?
[12:23] <computrius> I can only find references to it for 2.4.x
[12:23] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: yes.
[12:23] <blanky> hey in gnome do you guys know how to make it so that my firefox, when maximized, truely is maximized? right now it's in between bottom and top panels and it's really pissing me off
[12:23] <computrius> is it included in the 2.6 kernel?
[12:23] <LordLimecat> o.0 theres nothing that explains filesystem thru ubotu o.0
[12:24] <LordLimecat> is the bot a wiki?
[12:24] <holycow> speaking of upgrades, that reminds me, i'll haveto volunteer to test the upgrade path between lts releases ... currently this is a huge issue for companies
[12:24] <LordLimecat> ...so to speak?
[12:24] <gyaresu> !language | blanky
[12:24] <ubotu> blanky: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <PriceChild> !bot > LordLimecat
[12:24] <blanky> gyaresu: could you help out
[12:24] <cafuego_> vox754: eh?
[12:24] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, :/  i would say that fairly well falls into their support forums ... fairly esoteric setup thats hard to help out with here
[12:24] <LordLimecat> blanky: f11
[12:24] <gyaresu> blanky: I'm not sure I understand what firefox is doing and I use fluxbox...
[12:25] <blanky> gyaresu: is what LordLimecat said to do okay?
[12:25] <vox754> cafuego_, sorry then...
[12:25] <blanky> oh LordLimecat, thanks
[12:25] <maxfeeNull> any one installd oracle on ubuntu
[12:25] <LordLimecat> blanky: its a standard firefox (and i believe IE, and opera) shortcut for linux and windows
[12:25] <jrib> blanky: you are pressing f11 to maximize?
[12:25] <maxfeeNull> or vm ware
[12:25] <Fer> and for some reason the iPv6 to ip4 is not working :(
[12:26] <Fer> and i don't want to swap to swiftfox :(
[12:26] <blanky> jrib, LordLimecat: No, I just mean, window maximize (Resize), in windows it takes up the whole screen, but in GNOME it's like, squished by the top and bottom gnome bars
[12:26] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: ive installed vmware and gotten mandriva running on it
[12:26] <LordLimecat> fer: swiftfox is nice
[12:26] <blanky> jrib, LordLimecat: did that make any sense? :(
[12:26] <jrib> blanky: yes, why not press f11?
[12:26] <Fer> but i like foxmarks sync'in my bookmarks
[12:26] <maxfeeNull> good
[12:26] <LordLimecat> blanky: yes, but when i press f11, NOTHING is visible except firefox
[12:26] <LordLimecat> lemme double check
[12:26] <blanky> jrib: becuase it's not what I meant, I don't like browsing like that
[12:27] <blanky> LordLimecat and jrib: Yeah I know what F11 does, thanks for the suggestion, but it's not what I meant
[12:27] <blanky> LordLimecat and jrib I'll look for screenshots to show you guys
[12:27] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:27] <kbrooks> gu ubuntu dudes!
[12:27] <GatoLoko> hi
[12:27] <kbrooks> hi*
[12:27] <maxfeeNull> i stucked with it and vmware workstation dosent run and switched to rhel and ill kill my pc soon?
[12:27] <LordLimecat> hey :D welcome new ubuntu person!
[12:27] <LordLimecat> \
[12:27] <GatoLoko> is there a way to tell apport to add the new info to an existing bugreport?
[12:28] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im not sure what you mean
[12:28] <LordLimecat> you put RHEL on vmware and what happened
[12:28] <Aruin> Could some 1 help me i have the nvidia driver on cd how do i install it ?
[12:28] <greff> Is there a way to create standard looking init scripts?
[12:28] <StoneNote> it tore a hole in the fabric of space time
[12:28] <LordLimecat> Aruin: is it the cd that came with your card?
[12:28] <maxfeeNull> R u installed vmware work station in non enterprise system?
[12:29] <LordLimecat> StoneNote: RHEL does that
[12:29] <PriceChild> !nvidia | Aruin (I doubt the cd contains the linux driver)
[12:29] <ubotu> Aruin (I doubt the cd contains the linux driver): To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <Aruin> no its a cd that came with Linux Format
[12:29] <Fer> !ntfs
[12:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:29] <PriceChild> Aruin, ok what form is it in?
[12:29] <StoneNote> LordLimecat, that's been my experience
[12:29] <PriceChild> Aruin, is it like a .run file?
[12:29] <computrius> agg
[12:29] <Aruin> .run
[12:29] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im using vmware viewer
[12:29] <maxfeeNull> if u r sure ill formate my disk right now and back to ubuntu
[12:29] <computrius> no matter what I do I cant get a wireless device working
[12:29] <computrius> for some reason if I modprobe ndiswrapper usbcore claims it
[12:30] <computrius> and no wlan0 device is made
[12:30] <PriceChild> Aruin, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy Use Method 2.
[12:30] <Aruin> thank you
[12:30] <posingaspopular> computrius: what didyou try
[12:30] <computrius> hostap doesnt give errors, but it doesnt make a wlan0 interface
[12:30] <kbrooks> computrius, blacklist on usbcore, but only if you dont use usb
[12:30] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im not an expert, ask someone else before formatting
[12:30] <maxfeeNull> viewer!! i need to install windows in a virtual machine to test some progs
[12:30] <computrius> I have a usb keyboard and mouse
[12:30] <computrius> cant
[12:30] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: you can get the viewer to do installs
[12:31] <maxfeeNull> dont worry i have formated it 5 tims right now
[12:31] <maxfeeNull> and dont maneged to install  software i need
[12:31] <josh415> Has anyone had luck binding edgy to Active Directory?  the docs online don't quite work for me.
[12:32] <vox754> computrius, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:32] <LordLimecat> josh415: ...in what way do you mean?  ubuntu can actually pull userlists from AD?
[12:32] <josh415> LordLimecat: yes
[12:32] <LordLimecat> josh415: this is awesome news
[12:32] <josh415> LordLimecat: via LDAP & Kerberos.
[12:35] <Zambezi> I need hardware information about hdg in the terminal. lshw|grep hdg doesn't give my that much information. There's another command, but I forgot about. Anyone remember?
[12:35] <iamsam9895> !fgl
[12:35] <iamsam9895> Whoops
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <computrius> do I need to download firmware to use hostap drivers?
[12:36] <computrius> if so where do I get it
[12:36] <gyaresu> Zambezi: 'lshw | less' then /hdg
[12:36] <Hydr0p0nX> Zambezi, lshw |less :)
[12:37] <greff> It seems as thought everything in /etc/init.d/ is somewhat standard. I want to be able to create something that looks about the same. Catch my drift?
[12:37] <zapradon> I've got kind of an amusing one here...
[12:37] <gyaresu> greff: No.
[12:37] <kbrooks> HOW EXACTLY DO I patch up my ubuntu for the dst change?????????????????????????
[12:38] <Zambezi> gyaresu, Hydr0p0nX But I got to see the size of the harddrive before I format it.
[12:38] <gyaresu> greff: You want to create an init script?
[12:38] <cornell> I just did an update (from the little icon on the task bar), it spoke of locales and tzconfig.  Is this related to the DST shift?  And is my ubuntu machine taken care of?
[12:38] <PriceChild> kbrooks, you shouldn't need to
[12:38] <jimmygoon> kbrooks: download updates
[12:38] <PriceChild> cornell, probably
[12:38] <Zambezi> kbrooks, Use lowercase please.
[12:38] <szkud> are resolution problems pretty common after installs? Im not sure what I've got to do to get up to 1680 but it's driving me nuts loking at it stretched
[12:38] <jimmygoon> kbrooks: don't break your caps lock button ;)
[12:38] <holycow> !resolution
[12:38] <greff> gyaresu: Are you sure?
[12:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:38] <gyaresu> Zambezi: 'fdisk -l'
[12:38] <PriceChild> kbrooks, there's a post on planet.ubuntu.com that explains how to check.
[12:38] <cornell> Thanks PriceChild
[12:38] <PriceChild> cornell, jsut ensure your system is updated :)
[12:38] <gyaresu> greff: Do you want to create an init script? Is what I meant?
[12:39] <holycow> szarak, yes they are, the installer doesn't seem to check monitor models and makes at install and setup proper refresh rates for various monitors
[12:39] <PriceChild> cornell, and as i mentioned to kb, there's a post on planet.ubuntu.com explaining how to check
[12:39] <szkud> holycow: that's pretty common :D
[12:39] <Zambezi> gyaresu, Nothing. It's completely fresh. It doesn't have any filesystem at all.
[12:39] <holycow> szarak, as well lots of widescreen monitors out there, intel chipsets need the 915resolution fix to access the widescreen resolutions
[12:39] <greff> gyaresu: Yes, but in a way that makes it look seamlessly integrated into Ubuntu.
[12:39] <LordLimecat> Anyone know how to get the Logitech laser mice (g5, G7) back buttons working?
[12:40] <LordLimecat> also, having backspace go back a page in firefox would be nice :(
[12:40] <mdesouky> hi all
[12:40] <gyaresu> Zambezi: But you should have a line at the top of the device like "Disk /dev/sda: 300.0 GB, 300069052416 bytes"
[12:40] <holycow> szarak, and if its anything other than 1280x800 you need to pass a specific argument via 915resolution to get it to something like 1620x1024 or whatever it is
[12:40] <PriceChild> LordLimecat, type "about:config" int he nav bar and press enter
[12:40] <holycow> szarak, *nod* yeah thats the general idea tho
[12:40] <PriceChild> LordLimecat, search for "backspace" then set the back button to 1 instead of 0
[12:40] <gyaresu> greff: What are you actually trying to acheive?
[12:40] <LordLimecat> ah!
[12:41] <Zambezi> gyaresu, hdparm did it. It's the right harddrive.
[12:41] <mdesouky> would somebody be kind enough to help a first time Linux user
[12:41] <LordLimecat> and the mice? i found a howto, but it was for earlier mice, and it said "you will need to change things for g5", and did not elaborate
[12:41] <holycow> mdesouky, everyones pretty nice and the water is warm
[12:41] <greff> gyaresu: I want to have an init script that starts a process upon execution of /etc/init.d/myscript start and which stops the given process upon execution of /etc/init.d/myscript stop
[12:41] <holycow> and not because everyone peed in it
[12:41] <holycow> >_<
[12:41] <kbrooks>  o goodie, my system is all up to date
[12:41] <holycow> lol
[12:41] <holycow> mdesouky, just ask :)
[12:41] <jrib> LordLimecat: I wrote a guide for the mx1000 on the wiki, it should be very similar
[12:41] <mdesouky> thanks
[12:42] <LordLimecat> it may be yours,
[12:42] <princemackenzie> ask away mdesouky
[12:42] <LordLimecat> there was no mention of what "changes may be necessary" meant'
[12:42] <adrian_> Hello!
[12:42] <mdesouky> I have an NForce2 asus board with ubuntu Edgy on it
[12:42] <princemackenzie> cheers
[12:42] <LordLimecat> i think my question was basically, how do i find what the hex code for the side button is
[12:42] <mdesouky> I can not get sound from SPDIF for the life of me
[12:42] <computrius> is there some central location I can get firmware for different wireless cards>?
[12:42] <adrian_> any1 know where in systemsettings I can change the splashscreen?
[12:42] <nrdb> with ubuntu 6.06 my video card/monitor work no trouble, with 6.10 I allways get a 'out of sync' message from the monitor, This happens if I use the LiveCD, upgrade 6.06 or use the alternate install CD :(
[12:42] <jrib> LordLimecat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse  what do you mean by hex code?
[12:43] <princemackenzie> onboard spdif, mdesouky?
[12:43] <mdesouky> yes
[12:43] <greff> gyaresu: Hello?
[12:43] <gyaresu> greff: At boot?
[12:43] <AsusM2N-MX> whats the solution for undetected ethernet card on nforce 430/6100 chipset?
[12:43] <alecjw> computrius, i dont htink so. what firmware do you need?
[12:43] <SlickRich> hey guys I've just put in the ubuntu CD in for the first time, I haven't installed it yet but I'm having a go with it
[12:43] <mdesouky> all the search i did pointed to tweak the mixer but no luck
[12:43] <SlickRich> how do I access my windows files?
[12:43] <holycow> nrdb, refresh rates are just out of the range of your monitor ... the defaults aren't always supported.  you can change those in your xorg.conf filie from a terminal and restart gd to get back into your live cd
[12:43] <princemackenzie> AsusM2N-MX, try "modprode forcedeth" or "modprobe marvell"
[12:43] <computrius> I need firmware for dwl-520 rev e
[12:43] <jrib> LordLimecat: you can figure out the button numbers using 'xev'
[12:43] <computrius> its prism 2.5 chipset
[12:43] <AsusM2N-MX> ok princemackenzie
[12:43] <MFen> are there problems know with i/o in feisty being *extremely* slow?
[12:44] <K3nto> !partion
[12:44] <jrib> MFen: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <MFen> jrib: ty
[12:44] <LordLimecat> jrib: it was a different guide
[12:44] <alecjw> MFen, ask about feisty in #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <nrdb> holycow: I trid that by setting the range in the monitor section, and by using a modeline generated by gtf.
[12:44] <LordLimecat> and btw, ive been trying to remember xev, thanks
[12:44] <greff> gyaresu: It could be started at boot. But that's not the goal here. The goal is to write an init script based off some sort of template that some Ubuntu program might create. If you look through all of /etc/init.d/ you will notice a lot of similiarities between the files. I want my init script to have the same look and feel. Hence the desire to know if there is a program that provides such templates already.
[12:44] <SlickRich> how do you view your windows files from ubuntu?
[12:44] <alecjw> MFen, oh sorry. jrib's already lod you...
[12:44] <holycow> nrdb, wrong way.  google your monitor modeland make
[12:44] <LordLimecat> your guide looks perfect
[12:44] <holycow> >_> i know i know  :)
[12:44] <jrib> LordLimecat: all you have to do is setup evdev and then use xbindkeys (or something similar) to bind the keys accordingly
[12:44] <gyaresu> greff: You call init scripts for the runlevel. If you want a command/script called at boot then you can add a line to /etc/rc.local
[12:45] <K3nto> LordLimecat: what up dude
[12:45] <LordLimecat> yo :D
[12:45] <LordLimecat> get it working?
[12:45] <MFen> alecjw: no worries
[12:45] <PriceChild> SlickRich, ntfs or fat32 drive?
[12:45] <SlickRich> ntfs
[12:45] <greff> gyaresu: You don't get it. I want to *write* the init script, not call on one. I'll decide when I call on them later.
[12:45] <gyaresu> greff: If you want it manually called then write a script that starts a service and dump it in /usr/local/bin or if you want it time based write a cron job that runs the /usr/local/bin script...
[12:45] <PriceChild> !ntfs | SlickRich
[12:45] <K3nto> LordLimecat: nah, i gave up on WoW
[12:45] <ubotu> SlickRich: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:46] <LordLimecat> theres a ton of pros on tonight, maybe one can help :D
[12:46] <LordLimecat> dont give up on wow :(
[12:46] <mdesouky> any idea?
[12:46] <SlickRich> Cheers, I'll have a look at it
[12:46] <LordLimecat> the journeys as important as the destination
[12:46] <greff> gyaresu: The init script must have a similar template to what the other init scripts have just so it looks nice and makes sure that the code is not prone to bugs as it is based off the same template as everything else.
[12:46] <cornell> Ah... PriceChild, thank you much
[12:46] <computrius> anyone know where I can get dwl 520 e firmware?
[12:46] <cornell> Now to figure out if my knoppmyth is ready ;-)
[12:46] <greff> gyaresu: Again, I'm not asking something as trivial as how do I call an init script or how do I install an init script.
[12:47] <gyaresu> greff: So you know how to read/write scripts... What's the question?
[12:47] <K3nto> LordLimecat: yeah, i moved on to putting linux on my ipod until i get my steam back for wow
[12:47] <Jimmey> How can I mount a fat32 hdd in it's designated /media/hdb location so that it turns up on my desktop, and that I can write to it?
[12:47] <LordLimecat> alright :(
[12:47] <jrib> !vfat | Jimmey
[12:47] <ubotu> Jimmey: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:47] <cornell> TTFN... Thanks a bunch
[12:47] <bito> anyonw play age of empires 2? pvt me
[12:47] <alecjw> Jimmey, mount it with umask=0000
[12:48] <greff> grayscale: Like I've said, I want to know if there's a template from which the init scripts can be written. Is there a program that generates the init script base for you? (As in the start_process() or whatever functions)
[12:48] <greff> s/grayscale/gyaresu/
[12:48] <LordLimecat> lol
[12:48] <alecjw> !offtopic | bito
[12:49] <ubotu> bito: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <SlickRich> I've been trying to download the diskmounter script but I'm getting the error "Resolving siegie.sin.khk.be... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution."
[12:49] <AsusM2N-MX> brb, gonna try something
[12:49] <gyaresu> greff: I don't know. I imagine that it's written by the package creator. You really want to know about creating pages (it seems to me).
[12:49] <greff> gyaresu: .......................
[12:49] <Fer> ok, so my external HD is in NTFS, and it's a /dec/sda1
[12:49] <alecjw> SlickRich, i get the same problem. i think the server must be down
[12:49] <SpaceBass> anyone know a commandline bit torrent app that can do rss?
[12:49] <Fer> err, dev/sda1
[12:50] <Fer> how do i make it read/writeable ??
[12:50] <Jimmey> jrib, I tried, it's not working - It says it's mounted with "type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0001,dmask=0000)"
[12:50] <opla> puis etre assist par quelqu'un pour intaller mon premier file tar.gz sur ubuntu?
[12:50] <Jimmey> !fe
[12:50] <gyaresu> greff: s/pages/packages/
[12:50] <Jimmey> !fr
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <opla> sorry
[12:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:50] <jrib> Jimmey: what does  ls -ld /media/hdb  return?
[12:50] <alecjw> Jimmey, thats fmask and dmask. you need to use the umask=0000 option
[12:51] <greff> gyaresu: I don't think you get it still. I think I've made it pretty clear that I want something that generates a template for writing init scripts. Since all the other init scripts that Ubuntu ships with seem to have a very similar look and feel, I'm betting there is such a program. The question is plain and simple: do you know of a program that generates a template init script that seamlessly integrates in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <not_a_k> any idea why klogd would suck up all my cpu usage?
[12:51] <umarmung> greff: /etc/init.d/skeleton I guess you are looking for that
[12:51] <K3nto> !ntfs
[12:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:51] <Jimmey> jrib, drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/hdb
[12:51] <greff> umarmung: Thank you! I will check that out.
[12:51] <Jimmey> alecjw, alright
[12:51] <jrib> alecjw: fmask and dmask should work too
[12:51] <K3nto> !ntfs-3g
[12:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:51] <holycow> greff, actually there isno such program
[12:51] <jrib> Jimmey: what does this return:  touch /media/hdb/iamworking
[12:51] <K3nto> sweet
[12:52] <abo> hi, ubuntu update is requesting a distribution update, what does that mean?
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, nothing
[12:52] <compengi> how can i restore shift+delete items?
[12:52] <greff> holycow: That's fine, I just want something that provides a template at least.
[12:52] <abo> is there a new ubuntu version?
[12:52] <profx> whats a good choice to install linux on, for file systems ?
[12:52] <holycow> greff, no such thing.
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: does /media/hdb/iamworking  now exist?
[12:52] <alecjw> abo, are you usign feisty?
[12:52] <profx> ext2?
[12:52] <greff> holycow: The conversation just got to the point where I couldn't really phrase it any other way.
[12:52] <Dreamax> no
[12:52] <LordLimecat> compengi: i may be wrong
[12:52] <greff> holycow: .... that's what /etc/init.d/skeleton is
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, eah
[12:52] <alecjw> profx, ext3
[12:52] <Jimmey> *yeah
[12:52] <abo> alecjw, no edgy eft
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: then you have write permissions
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, I see
[12:52] <alecjw> abo, and 3rd party repos?
[12:52] <LordLimecat> compengi: but from my reasearch, you really cant recover stuff gone from recycle bin in ext3
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: maybe reload nautilus?
[12:53] <abo> alecjw, maybe... probably yes
[12:53] <gyaresu> greff: I'm sorry. Now we both have learnt something :) /etc/init.d/skeleton
[12:53] <compengi> oh
[12:53] <compengi> damn
[12:53] <Jimmey> jrib, well, I browsed to /media/hdb, and I can't create files/folders there
[12:53] <abo> alecjw, how can I tell for sure?
[12:53] <alecjw> abo, are you sure those 3rd party repos are for edgy?
[12:53] <whonicca> is beryl compiz?
[12:53] <greff> gyaresu: For future reference, what question should I have asked to make that perfectly clear what I wanted?
[12:53] <kbrooks> LordLimecat, that's true. ext3 is a journaled filesystem, and ... hang on
[12:53] <Fer> ok, so my external HD is in NTFS, and it's a /dev/sda1
[12:53] <alecjw> abo, system>admin>software sources and go to the 3rd party repos tab
[12:53] <jrib> Jimmey: restart nautilus, it's dumb some(most?)times
[12:53] <whonicca> or is compiz a whole different thing
[12:53] <Fer> how do i make it read/writeable ??
[12:53] <Jimmey> jrib, how?
[12:53] <kbrooks> whonicca, different
[12:53] <greff> gyaresu: I wandered off on programs, but initially I was asking for 'something' that would provide a template for init scripts.
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: "Is there a template for init.d scripts?"
[12:54] <jrib> Jimmey: does closing the window and opening a new one work?
[12:54] <abo> alecjw, I haven't added repos since very long time (more than a month) ...
[12:54] <rnanaimo> /leave
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: Something like this: " greff> gyaresu: The init script must have a similar template to what the other init scripts have just so it looks nice and makes sure that the code is not prone to bugs as it is based off the
[12:54] <gyaresu>                same template as everything else.
[12:54] <Jimmey> jrib, ahh, yes. Thanks
[12:54] <Jivers> hey, i created a new group for svn users, then i added myself to that group, and it took me out of the admin group and all other groups, and only put me in that group and now i can't admin anything
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: ;)
[12:55] <juan_> hola
[12:55] <kbrooks> Jivers, um, commands please.
[12:55] <Jivers> commands i used?
[12:55] <alecjw> !es | juan_
[12:55] <ubotu> juan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:55] <greff> Hehe, okay, I thought I just wasn't communicating properly again. SYN+ACK+FIN ;)
[12:55] <abo> alecjw, there are quite a few 3rd parties checked... all are for edgy, except some for dapper...
[12:55] <StoneNote> command: get me a cheeseburger
[12:55] <jrib> Jimmey: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then add youself back to the groups.  Use 'adduser' to add groups
[12:55] <jrib> (to your user)
[12:55] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a pendrive, but I can't. Can anybody help me, please? I get 'Missing operative system' when I try to boot the pendrive
[12:55] <LordLimecat> !botsnack | StoneNote
[12:55] <ubotu> StoneNote: Yum!
[12:56] <StoneNote> danke
[12:56] <Fer> oh wait, if my HD is in NTFS, i CAN NOT write to it just read? :(
[12:56] <alecjw> abo, disable the dapper ones. they're proably wants causing the problem. see if there are edgy version sf them to replace them. itsa always a bad idea to use repos on the wrong version of ubuntu
[12:56] <jrib> !ntfs-3g | Fer
[12:56] <ubotu> Fer: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:56] <Linux_Junkie> anyone know if turning a whole drive into ext2 without any partitions is dangerous ?
[12:56] <gravemind> hey I want to move stuff with mv but I don't want to overwrite things of the same name, is this the default behavior of mv? I don't really understand the manual
[12:56] <PriceChild> Linux_Junkie, well it has to have one partition for the ext2?
[12:56] <abo> alecjw, ok .. I'll remove the dapper ones, how can I find the edgy replacement?
[12:57] <LordLimecat> gravemind: ill find out for you, one second
[12:57] <jrib> gravemind: yes, that is default.  Checkout the -i switch maybe
[12:57] <LordLimecat> nvm
[12:57] <gravemind> LordLimecat, jrib, thanks
[12:57] <kbrooks> jrib, may i ask for a correction?
[12:57] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, of course, if you wipe youre entire hard drive, you'll lose all of your data, but it wont do any physical dmaage. and i recommend using ext3 rather htan ext2
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> PriceChild: well when i type the command it just  outputs "/dev/hdb is entire device, not just one partition!
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> Proceed anyway? (y,n) n
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> "
[12:57] <jrib> kbrooks: ok
[12:57] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g is incorrect
[12:57] <kbrooks> jrib, at the time it was beta software
[12:57] <PriceChild> Linux_Junkie, you "need" to do it to a partition. And you will lose all data ;)
[12:57] <alecjw> abo, go back to where you found them and see if htere are edgyo nes. also, try modifying htem and changin the distrobutuon to edgy
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: i am just trying to get to the bottom of why i lost 9 gigs of spaec.
[12:58] <jrib> kbrooks: oh for the factoid.  Best discussed with the folks at #ubuntu-ops
[12:58] <soleblaze> how do you remove a package, including everything (such as files in etc)
[12:58] <Jimmey> jrib, why?
[12:58] <kbrooks> Jimmey, why what?
[12:58] <jrib> Jimmey: why what?
[12:58] <PriceChild> soleblaze, sudo apt-get remove package
[12:58] <Jimmey> jrib: ..."reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu"...
[12:58] <jrib> soleblaze: sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE
[12:58] <soleblaze> PriceChild: that leaves behind files
[12:58] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, my 200gb hard drive shrunk to 9gb once... i found out after w hile that it was becuase it melted. are you sure its still in the corrent state of matter?
[12:58] <alecjw> *correct
[12:58] <soleblaze> jrib: thanks
[12:59] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g is incorrect because ntfs-3g is not beta anymore. (check the ntfs-3g site)
[12:59] <jrib> Jimmey: because you won't be able to add yourself to the admin group otherwise
[12:59] <not_a_k> my cpu usage is completely out of control
[12:59] <putterson> i would like to enable the thumb wheel on my logitech mx revolution mouse
[12:59] <putterson> xev will not detect any events from it
[12:59] <Jimmey> jrib, do I need to?
[12:59] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: well it's a 120 seagate and when i partition it fdisk and cfdisk points to say it has 120 but after making the whole disk 1 big partition df -h reads only 111
[01:00] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, some of it will be taken up by fielsystem
[01:00] <Jivers> my user account is no longer in the admin group
[01:00] <Jivers> how can i get root
[01:00] <jrib> Jimmey: if you want to use sudo, yes
[01:00] <Jimmey> jrib, why will that have changed?
[01:00] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: 9 gigs seems to be a tad much for a while filesystem.
[01:00] <dimeotane> Does anyone know exactly what the /etc directory stands for?  I can't find anything for sure...  I know it's pronounced EHT-SEE... but at best someone said it stands for Everything Thats Configurable
[01:01] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: i belive it stands for et cetera
[01:01] <SlickRich> WOO! my windows partitions are working now
[01:01] <Jivers> i'm in a pinch
[01:01] <Jivers> i can't do anything anymore
[01:01] <SlickRich> I'm liking ubuntu
[01:01] <blanky> okay, good
[01:01] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, its not :) the ext2/3 FSes are quite big
[01:01] <Huffalump> I've been using Edgy for many months and just very recently I've started to have problems where I get no sound AFTER I log in.  For example, on boot up, I hear the little drum beat when it asks me to login.  But after that, nothing.  This just started ...yesterday, I think.  But I rebooted yesterday and everything was fine.  Today, no matter how many reboots, no sound after login.
[01:01] <not_a_k> i'm disliking ubuntu :(
[01:01] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw thanks for your input
[01:02] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: i used to assume that as well, but reading around the net, ppl seem to call it ET-see
[01:02] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: have you checked the volume by opening that little volume applet?
[01:02] <Jimmey> jrib, and can't I do that without logging into recovery mode?
[01:02] <derrik> can anyone break down the main differences between ubuntu and debian?
[01:02] <Huffalump> Near the date/time?  Yes, it show master volume maximum, LordLimecat
[01:02] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: its possible "everything thats configurable" is a backronym
[01:02] <compengi> gnomefreak, hi
[01:02] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: open it, and make sure nothings muteed
[01:02] <dimeotane> calling it et cetera makes it sound like " all that other junk that doesn't fit elsewhere"  but it's actually all configuration stuff
[01:02] <GionnyBoss> I can't make a usb pendrive bootable. I tryed with syslinux -fs /dev/sdb1 but it doesn't work
[01:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok, this is kinda weird, but I can manually mount my NTFS partition, but Ubuntu recognizes it as swap
[01:02] <Huffalump> Line In, Microphone, LordLimecat
[01:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And it won't boot
[01:03] <jrib> Jimmey: only if you have some other way of getting super user privileges (another user who can sudo or access to the root account)
[01:03] <LordLimecat> dimeotane:  or it means "dns, server, and etc settings"
[01:03] <jimmygoon> not_a_k, any reason in particular?
[01:03] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: thats how i look at it o.0
[01:03] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: hah 'backronym'   I like it!
[01:03] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:03] <Jimmey> jrib, I'm in a root console now
[01:03] <Aruin> can some 1 help iv installed my new nvida driver, it speeds up my 3d graphics (i tested with a screen saver) when i exit the screen saver all my colours seem to have gone strange can some 1 help ??? how do i roll back my driver?
[01:04] <jrib> Jimmey: k, then   adduser USERNAME admin
[01:04] <not_a_k> jimmygoon
[01:04] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: any luck?
[01:04] <greff> dimeotane: There was a Slashdot article on this which linked to the original way that UNIX and BSD referred to /etc and calling it anything other than the three letter acronym that it is, is merely changing the original meaning.
[01:04] <CorpseFeeder> dimeotane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[01:04] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, microphone and Line In are muted.  That's it.  No sound.
[01:04] <Jimmey> jrib, it says I'm already a member - So is that cool?
[01:04] <compengi> LjL, hi
[01:05] <jrib> Jimmey: yeah, but I thought you were removed?
[01:05] <joe4444> should my 80gb hdd be partitioned so that the boot partition is relatively small?  the live cd partitioned it to use nearly the entire disk with just a few gb at the end for linux-swap
[01:05] <not_a_k> jimmygoon, whoops enter key bigger than I'm used to. my dislike stems from my out of control cpu usage at the moment. i have a pretty fresh/stock install of ubuntu right now
[01:05] <Jivers> my user account is no longer in the admin group!!! how can i fix this!
[01:05] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: dunno how much help i can be then :(
[01:05] <Jivers> help
[01:05] <Jimmey> jrib, naw, I think you confused me with someone else...?
[01:05] <LordLimecat> just wanted to make sure it wasnt something as simple as that, thats happened to me
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> oops, didn't realize i was already on
[01:05] <abo> what is the command to update the index after changing /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:05] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, well thanks for covering the groundwork :)  Let's see if anyone can help me figure out why the sound works when I boot up, but not after I login.
[01:05] <Jimmey> abo, sudo apt-get update
[01:06] <abo> Jimmey, cheers
[01:06] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: im mostly here to lurk and see what i can learn, but if someone has somethin simple, i figure i can help em out so that the pros can handle more people
[01:06] <dimeotane> I'm using simple backup to protect my system:  other than /home /var and /etc  what else is irreplacable and should be backed up?
[01:07] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, if I login as another user, the sound works.
[01:07] <Huffalump> The sounds works up to the login.
[01:07] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: i may have an idea o.0'
[01:07] <Aruin>  can some 1 help iv installed my new nvida driver, it speeds up my 3d graphics (i tested with a screen saver) when i exit the screen saver all my colours seem to have gone strange can some 1 help ??? how do i roll back my driver?
[01:07] <Jivers> is xchat installed by default with ubuntu?
[01:07] <Huffalump> If I login as me (my main user), there's no sound.
[01:07] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: give me a minute
[01:07] <joe4444> Jivers, it was for me
[01:07] <whonicca> is ubuntu still giving free irc classes?
[01:07] <Jivers> where is it located
[01:08] <Marupa> Dual booting question...
[01:08] <joe4444> Jivers, applications > internet
[01:08] <Marupa> If you already have ubuntu installed, is it possible to dual boot?
[01:08] <gravemind> will this command overwrite anything?
[01:08] <gravemind> sudo mv /home /media/futurehome1/futurehome/home
[01:08] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, with respect to clearing out the low-level stuff... that's great :)  I do the same on other channels.
[01:08] <Jivers> nope
[01:08] <joe4444> Jivers, you may have to check system > preferences > menu layout
[01:08] <Jivers> then what
[01:08] <kbrooks> um, is there a gnome friendly version of dialog?
[01:08] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: irc ftw
[01:09] <joe4444> Jivers, it's easy from there, just check it out
[01:09] <dimeotane> gravemind: it depents what you already have at that location... is it an empty folder?
[01:09] <pestilence> what is it that calls hdparm these days?  /etc/init.d/hdparm got removed by the upgrade to edgy
[01:09] <Jivers> lts version?
[01:09] <joe4444> Jivers, if it's not there then try Applications > Add/Remove
[01:09] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: i assume you know the basics of linux o.0
[01:09] <gravemind> dimeotane: not empty: it's basically a copy of /home with parts missing
[01:09] <Jivers> i think its because i'm not in the admin group i can't get that anymore
[01:09] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: but my hunch is to check the hidden folders in the home directory for any config that may be user specific
[01:09] <Jivers> how can i get my user back into the admin grou
[01:09] <Jivers> p
[01:10] <Jivers> i cant do crap nymore
[01:10] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: that, or your startup list
[01:10] <dimeotane> LordLimecat:  what exactly are the "basics"  I find its completely limitless  :/
[01:10] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:10] <joe4444> Jivers, i'm not sure about that but i don't think preferences requires root privilege
[01:10] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: basics means you can use the command ls without passing out
[01:10] <joe4444> add/remove will tho
[01:10] <Jivers> yeah
[01:10] <Jivers> but i need to fix this admin group problem
[01:10] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, I'm a n00b at linux but not computers.  I have no hidden folders or config in my home directory
[01:10] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, where is my start up list?
[01:10] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: press ctrl h
[01:10] <Jivers> i tried to make a new group and add myself to it and now i'm not in the admin group or any other group except my new one
[01:11] <Jivers> ubuntu has a huge bug in this regard
[01:11] <PriceChild> Huffalump, files/dirs starting with "." are hidden.
[01:11] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, I now have billions of hidden folders ;)
[01:11] <kbrooks> pestilence, unnecessary
[01:11] <Marupa> Jivers:  I don't think that's a bug.
[01:11] <jrib> Jivers: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then add youself back to the groups.  Use 'adduser' to add your user to the groups
[01:11] <joe4444> Jivers, you could start in recovery mode, which will give you root access... then usermod
[01:11] <kbrooks> pestilence, dma is enabled  somehow
[01:11] <joe4444> Jivers, no, you probably changed your default group instead of /adding/ yourself to another group...
[01:12] <gravemind> dimeotane: so will that overwrite what's already in the folder?
[01:12] <jrib> Jivers: that's default behavior for usermod, it's explained in the man page.  The "ubuntu way" would be to use  system > administration > users and groups
[01:12] <Jivers> where's the grub menu
[01:12] <alecjw> Huffalump, in linux, files or fodlers with a dot at the beginnign of their name are hidden
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: from what ive seen, the home directory is also home to configs in the same way as hkey_current_user in windows
[01:12] <kbrooks> Jivers, the canonical command: gpasswd
[01:12] <pestilence> kbrooks: ok, that's fine, but how do i set the spindown timeout?
[01:12] <Huffalump> Lord, I have all kinds of stuff.  Gaim, Mozilla, Gnome, GnuCash, and on and on
[01:12] <alecjw> Jivers, keep pressing esc aty bootup
[01:12] <alecjw> *at
[01:12] <Huffalump> However, I don't see anything that looks like it would have to do with the sound card
[01:12] <kbrooks> pestilence, no clue
[01:12] <pestilence> kbrooks: that's all i'm interested in doing...having my hard drives spin down after a while
[01:12] <jrib> Jivers: though you didn't say how you added yourself to the new group... did you use usermod or soemthing else?
[01:12] <GionnyBoss> I really need to install Ubuntu Edgy from a Pendrive, I followed the tutorial on this page ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/ ) but it doesn't work for me. Can anybody help me, please?
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: me either, just a place to look
[01:12] <dimeotane> gravemind:  dunno.. but you could avoid that by making a new folder and moving it all to that
[01:12] <Led-Hed> can anyone here help me with Apache2 on Ubuntu.  It works very differently than what I'm use to.
[01:12] <joe4444> Jivers, reboot and keep pressing ESC after you see your BIOS summary... it only gives you 1-2 seconds and most of the time i never see the option
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: it certainly is user specific
[01:13] <gravemind> dimeotane: yeah, I just didn't want to have to move all those 30 GBs again] 
[01:13] <Kyral> Led-Hed: You can thank Debian for that
[01:13] <Jivers> ok trying
[01:13] <pestilence> Led-Hed: ask
[01:13] <Jivers> usermod -g [group]  [username] 
[01:13] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, definitely specific to this user.  And only in the past day when all was well before and I've (not knowingly) changed or installed anything.
[01:13] <joe4444> Jivers, for future reference, i like "sudo gpasswd -a username groupname"
[01:13] <jimmygoon> not_a_k, what _have_ you installed so faR
[01:13] <Kyral> He probably means the wierd ass module thing
[01:14] <joe4444> Jivers, that won't change the user's /default/ group
[01:14] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: honestly, someone else will know better than me, but i just like trying to muddle through it on my own
[01:14] <Huffalump> Is there a:  sudo /etc/something/init.d/alsasomething restart ?
[01:14] <Jivers> ok i'm in recovery mode
[01:14] <LordLimecat> I find you learn a lot when you break and fix stuff yer self
[01:14] <dimeotane> gravemind: try a test with a folder with a small file and do a mv to move the file to see what happens.. .  you probably don't want 30gb of duplicate files either though
[01:14] <Led-Hed> I'm getting an error regarding 'AuthMySQLEnable On'.  I have installed the auth_mysql package and enabled it via a2enmod. am I missing something?
[01:14] <bruenig> Huffalump, you should ask crimsun, he knows a lot about alsa
[01:14] <joe4444> Jivers, try "gpassword -a username groupname"
[01:14] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, not when your woman wants to watch a movie ;)
[01:14] <LordLimecat> nothing teaches you the value of (forgive the win reference) the registry like deleting it
[01:14] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:14] <gravemind> dimeotane: too late, already ran the command : ) just have to wait and see now
[01:14] <joe4444> should my 80gb hdd be partitioned so that the boot partition is relatively small?  the live cd partitioned it to use nearly the entire disk with just a few gb at the end for linux-swap
[01:15] <Jivers> admin as the groupname?
[01:15] <kbrooks> testing
[01:15] <joe4444> Jivers, if that's the proper group
[01:15] <gravemind> joe4444: it depends on whether or not you will dual boot eventually
[01:15] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: id ask someone else, but ima keep lookin through stuff to find anythin related to soundcard
[01:15] <Jivers> what other groups should i be in, since i screwed it all up
[01:15] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: also, there IS a system log
[01:15] <Jivers> by default what groups do i need to be in
[01:16] <gravemind> joe4444: if you only want to use ubuntu on that machine, that's a save partitioning choice
[01:16] <joe4444> gravemind, nope i really doubt it... i'm dropping windows for good
[01:16] <joe4444> ok, thanks
[01:16] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: wanna try something.
[01:16] <Huffalump> good idea, thanks, LordLimecat
[01:16] <LordLimecat> system-->prefs-->sound
[01:16] <LordLimecat> whats it set on
[01:16] <Led-Hed> pestilence or Kyral; I'm getting an error regarding 'AuthMySQLEnable On'.  I have installed the auth_mysql package and enabled it via a2enmod. am I missing something?
[01:17] <Kyral> dunno
[01:17] <Kyral> I compiled my own Apache
[01:17] <pestilence> Led-Hed: how about in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[01:17] <joe4444> Jivers, these are the groups my default user was automatically added to: joe4444 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[01:18] <joe4444> ...not really sure why tho =)
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: that directory contains symlinks to modules in /etc/apache2/mods-available, and loads them if you link them
[01:18] <Led-Hed> pestilence, there is a link to auth_mysql.load
[01:18] <Huffalump> Autodetect
[01:18] <Jivers> sweet
[01:18] <joe4444> i'm used to new users only being in their own group
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: hmmm
[01:18] <LordLimecat> try oss?
[01:18] <LordLimecat> and hit test?
[01:18] <Huffalump> The system log is gibberish to me... I mean, I recognize some lines... but...
[01:18] <Huffalump> Tests fail.
[01:18] <joe4444> "bob" is just in "bob" and nothing else unless i say so
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: what's the error?
[01:18] <LordLimecat> dunno then :(
[01:18] <Huffalump> Yap, damn.  Back to Windows.
[01:18] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok, so basically my ntfs partition became swap, but I can still mount it as ntfs
[01:18] <LordLimecat> at this point id probably go play a game
[01:18] <LordLimecat> or use another use
[01:18] <Huffalump> I'll be back here tomorrow to figure it out.
[01:18] <LordLimecat> r
[01:18] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Why back to windows?
[01:19] <Huffalump> Thanks for your effort, LordLimecat.
[01:19] <LordLimecat> i suck :(
[01:19] <Led-Hed> pestilence, Invalid command 'AuthMySQLEnable'
[01:19] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe because the sound works fine there and the girl wants to watch her movie.
[01:19] <LordLimecat> honestly, tho, ask someone else, theyll know
[01:19] <pestilence> Led-Hed: where do you get this error?
[01:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: DVD? What kinda sound card? Like, I need to know what's wrong
[01:19] <Led-Hed> if I run: apache2    from the command line
[01:19] <knovak> how do I scan for new printers on my system? because my printer works fine (prints test pages), but Ubuntu doesnt see it when I go into printer config
[01:20] <knovak> and all attempts to set it up manually have failed.
[01:20] <Jivers> how to remove from a group
[01:20] <Led-Hed> pestilence, I get a SIGTERM error if I load from init script
[01:20] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, when I boot up... I hear the drum sound.  After logging in, there is only silence.  As a test, I created a new user just now and switched to it... and it has sound.
[01:20] <joe4444> Jivers, i can't recall... check out man usermod
[01:20] <joe4444> actually nvm
[01:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: You probally have something muted. Make sure EVERYTHING is unmuted.
[01:20] <joe4444> it's "sudo gpasswd -d username groupname"
[01:21] <pestilence> Led-Hed: did you look at what's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/whatever.load?
[01:21] <GionnyBoss> I'm desperate! I want to install Ubuntu Edgy from a Pendrive on a laptop with no CD-ROM (it doesn't work). I followed this guide ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/ ) but it doesn't work. Can anybody help me, please?
[01:21] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I have now unmuted Line In and Microphone.  Still nothing.
[01:21] <sdk56565> some now how excute a shell in unbunt
[01:21] <pestilence> Led-Hed: i have no idea, basically
[01:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: That's because those are the wrong things :P
[01:21] <sdk56565> '?????????????????????
[01:21] <abo> the ubuntu update is saying that I should run "distribution upgrade".. I removed in the source.list all references to dapper, I left only edgy ones... any ideas?
[01:21] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I do not see anything else muted.
[01:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Unmute EVERYTHING and jack everything UP
[01:22] <Led-Hed> pestilence, np.  thanks for the help
[01:22] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, done.  No change.
[01:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Sure your apps are set to output sound?
[01:22] <roorah> hi
[01:22] <jimmygoon> sdk56565, are you trying to open a terminal?
[01:23] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I'm not quite sure what that means.  For example, I am testing with VLC at the moment.
[01:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Like, is the application's volume set all the way up?
[01:23] <Huffalump> maximum
[01:23] <joe4444> Jivers, any luck?
[01:23] <Huffalump> speakers are loud enough to wake the neighbors
[01:23] <jimmygoon> sdk56565, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:23] <Jivers> yup works
[01:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Ok, go back to the sound thing, go to File > Change Device and tell me what you see
[01:24] <joe4444> cool, just be sure to use gpasswd -a from now on
[01:24] <joe4444> it's a little more straight-forward than usermod b/c it's only for changing group members
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, NVidia, Audigy, and Realtek
[01:25] <Jivers> how to reboot from the console
[01:25] <joe4444> sudo reboot
[01:25] <gkokaisel> ok, when I hover over any icon or window that is minimized to the toolbar it has a hover state that says what it is...i know what it is, so it really annoys me. How do i get rid of that? Please
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Which is set to use?
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, set to nVidia.  I just tried Audigy, no change.
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Try Realtek
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And make sure EVERYTHING is set up, when you change devices things can vary
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If you get no luck there, see what settings your other user has
[01:25] <jeeves__> has anyone installed "second life" on Ubuntu yet?
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And try setting with those
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, Realtek only has one setting optio for volume.  It's no change.
[01:26] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, will check the other user and come back
[01:26] <gkokaisel> i have...it quits after like 10 min
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Kk
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I can play halo on ubuntu! tehe
[01:26] <jeeves__> second life?  anyone?
[01:26] <gkokaisel> i have sl it quits after 10 minutes of play time
[01:26] <gkokaisel> know idea why
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What's second life?
[01:26] <GionnyBoss> please can anyone help me making this ubuntu edgy installation bootable on a usb pendrive? I can't boot from pendrive even if I tryed syslinux... I'm desperate
[01:26] <rever> Hi I just installed Feisty Fawn from Edgy. I use to be able to hit <tab> to have the command finish typing. It works but does not if I do $sudo <command>
[01:27] <jeeves__> biscuitian_warhe:  oh?  how'd you do that?
[01:27] <rever> Is there a config file I need to fix
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: no cd patch with wine 0.9.31 (feisty comes with latest, I just did compile)
[01:27] <gkokaisel> I just went to their site and downloaded it and followed instructions its real easy. but it not work well
[01:27] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, set to nVidia
[01:27] <gkokaisel> alpha version for linux
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Using the -novideo parameter gives best performance
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Feisty is stable enough in my opinion :P
[01:28] <xenalise> Hey... Has anyone had problems with lighttpd + squirrelmail + postfix/courier?
[01:28] <jeeves__> Biscuitian_Warhe:  well, when they get HalfLife and Counter Strike source to work, call me.
[01:28] <AmaroqWolf> My firefox crashes when I try to make to link to java's plugin so in firefox's plugins folder. I haven't done this in a while, and I have to do so since I installed 2.0.0.2. I suspect that I might be trying to do the wrong java plugin. What's the location of the .so that I should link to in firefox's plugins folder?
[01:28] <suttner> hi
[01:28] <profx> so there are two screens leading me into ubuntu, the first, has a progress bar, it reaches the end, then freezes, anything I can do to troubleshoot it, besides installing another OS?
[01:28] <gkokaisel> apt-get install java6 something like that is all I did
[01:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Can you jsut use that user instead?
[01:28] <xenalise> I can login no problems, but get errors when the frames load for "Query: SUBSCRIBE INBOX.Sent" and "Query: SELECT INBOX" "Reason given: Unable to open mailbox" :|
[01:28] <Huffalump> lol
[01:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: without going into your sys I dunno what's up
[01:29] <Huffalump> Well, I appreciate the help.  I thought it was a good idea to check the other user, actually.
[01:29] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, thanks for trying.
[01:29] <Huffalump> You, too, Limecat
[01:29] <LordLimecat> :(
[01:29] <LordLimecat> dammit, i wanted to know what was wrong
[01:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol, did it come out with audio when you first set it up?
[01:30] <profx> why is ubuntu this hard to install?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> Biscuitian_Warhe: (07:29:38 PM) Huffalump left the room (quit: "=p").
[01:30] <profx> is it because I have a Nvidia card?
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: I can't see everything
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> :P
[01:30] <gkokaisel> anyone know how to remove hover comments over icons and windows?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> just lettin you know :D
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: It's not hard to install
[01:30] <profx> really?
[01:30] <profx> prove it?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> we installed it o.0
[01:30] <LordLimecat> was a piece of cake o.0
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:31] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[01:31] <LordLimecat> do you mean installing drivers?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Reboot
[01:31] <profx> your all geniuses
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And then
[01:31] <LordLimecat> profx: i just started using ubuntu
[01:31] <crimsun> profx: it's more difficult on some hardware.
[01:31] <profx> Biscuitian_Warhe: why?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Well before rebooting run......
[01:31] <AmaroqWolf> profx: maybe your system doesn't have the resources. What kind of specs you have?
[01:31] <jeeves__> can anyone help me remove the splash screen from the boot?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Ubuntu doesn't install the binary nvidia by default, because they don't believe in proprietary solutions
[01:31] <engard> hi, all
[01:31] <profx> well, do I have to use a new CD this time?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Why it's sexy
[01:31] <profx> this is the second one, same results
[01:32] <Led-Hed> pestilence, does auth_mysql require a auth_mysql.conf?  some of the modules have .conf's but not all
[01:32] <engard> anyone have experience getting wireless cards to work in ubuntu?
[01:32] <bruenig> jeeves__, just edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and take off the splash
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: No, just do the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:32] <profx> Biscuitian_Warhe: I have no OS
[01:32] <gkokaisel> go to google type ubuntu how to and its there jeeves
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> engard: Not really, what kind do you use
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Err, how are you doing this then?
[01:32] <jeeves__> Biscuitian_Warhe:  no it isn't.  I want to see it boot, not the splash.
[01:32] <profx> so that would mean your info is disregarded
[01:32] <salty> i use wireless
[01:32] <profx> not the sharpest tool in the shed
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: You're really confusing me....
[01:32] <engard> Biscuitian_Warhe: I've got a broadcom of some sort, in a dell laptop
[01:33] <profx> maybe you need to stop listening then
[01:33] <jeeves__> bruenig:  thanks.  I'll look into it.
[01:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> engard: Eww, you'd have to look that up, that might be the ndiswrapper setup
[01:33] <gkokaisel> jeeves: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/     on this site
[01:33] <profx> so i keep freezing as ubuntu loads
[01:33] <jrib> !enter | profx
[01:33] <ubotu> profx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:33] <jrib> Rei-chan: this one
[01:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: You mean old fashioned text installer?
[01:33] <LordLimecat> profx: when you first boot, do a cd check
[01:33] <jeeves__> bruenig:  I don't see a "menu.list" file
[01:33] <profx> its not the CD
[01:34] <profx> it installed fine
[01:34] <salty> i'm on the alternate install
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Yay. :) I'm currently on a Command Line Gentoo box, and this thing needs Ubuntu.
[01:34] <profx> its bootin into the OS that doesnt work
[01:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Since its got less than 128MB RAM, I am grabbing the Alternate Install CD, whatever that is.
[01:34] <LordLimecat> theres a way to view where it went wrong, i know that much.....
[01:34] <profx> jrib, if you dont have anything productive to say, then pls dont direct comments/suggestions to me
[01:34] <jrib> profx: expand on "doesn't work"
[01:34] <profx> thanks
[01:34] <crimsun> profx: take a digital photo of the boot sequence with recovery mode
[01:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: oh ok, what do you need help with it?
[01:34] <profx> sure, a digital photo, easy
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Is there anything important I need to know?
[01:34] <LordLimecat> but, jrib, didnt someone else have that problem fixed with an acpi workaround?
[01:35] <profx> crimsun: what the h are you talking about?
[01:35] <Rei-chan> Like, say, "Ubuntu will not work with 96 MB of RAM"
[01:35] <jrib> LordLimecat: I have no idea what the problem is, I just know it "doesn't work"
[01:35] <salty> alternate install to command line was a breeze
[01:35] <crimsun> profx: if you say that booting doesn't work, then I want a picture of where it fails.
[01:35] <jrib> Rei-chan: well GNOME might not be too pleasant, but you can probably use xfce
[01:35] <jrib> !xubuntu | Rei-chan
[01:35] <ubotu> Rei-chan: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: right, right. i've used ubuntu so long so I cant' stand the desktop install.
[01:36] <alienseer23> anybody help me with lirc? I have absolutely no idea how to set this up
[01:36] <PiNE> does anyone know what this warning means:  audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Resource busy or not available.
[01:36] <salty> i have a laptop with 355mhz cpu and 64mb ram and it works like a charm
[01:36] <profx> on the loading screen, right before entering the OS, at the progress meter
[01:36] <Rei-chan> Hmm, yeah, xfce is probably the est bed.
[01:36] <Rei-chan> Under what, salty? GNOME or xfce?
[01:36] <profx> freezes as it approaches the end
[01:36] <salty> fluxbox but use xfce first
[01:37] <crimsun> profx: so boot in recovery mode (choose it in the boot menu), and take a photograph of it. Your describing doesn't help. We need the actual text.
[01:37] <Jeruvy> whats the best way to get a terminal or editor to work in 'root' mode?  I hate having to start 'gedit' from the command line constantly?
[01:37] <jeeves__> anyone?  Second life setup in Ubunut?
[01:37] <profx> there is no text
[01:37] <gkokaisel> sudo
[01:37] <profx> its just this screen, thats it
[01:37] <crimsun> profx: of course there's text IN THE MENU ENTRY I told you.
[01:37] <nutterpc> easy way to find whats causing it, edit the menu.lst to take out splash..............then you can see what text it hangs on
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: you shouldn't need a text editor in "root mode" that often, something is wrong if you do
[01:38] <mg__> =
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: just download the binary, extract, and run it
[01:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Second life as in www.secondlife.com?
[01:38] <crimsun> profx: obviously if you boot into the 'normal' entry, you'll get the graphical usplash that hides text. That's why I told you to use the recovery mode that does not use that graphical usplash.
[01:38] <jrib> Jeruvy: you shouldn't need a text editor in "root mode" that often, something is wrong if you do
[01:38] <jeeves__> jrib: ???  what are you talking about?
[01:38] <Jeruvy> jrib: well I'm doing a lot of experimentation, and it's Jeruvy not Jeeves :)
[01:38] <profx> recovery == verbose
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: ignore my first comment to you, sorry
[01:39] <crimsun> profx: yes, that's intentional.
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh second life has an alpha linux client!
[01:39] <jeeves__> biscuitian_warhe:  yep, that's the one.  I'm on a VERY slow connection here, so It'll take the better part of an hour to get a 30Mb file
[01:39] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Does SL have a Linux client yet? Or are you asking about WINE installation?
[01:39] <jeeves__> jrib:  ok, I'm guessing it wasn't ment for me?
[01:39] <jrib> jeeves__: right
[01:39] <profx> ok, at a prompt
[01:39] <gkokaisel> yes but its super alpha rei-chan
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: I don't see any luck with the wine method
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But the client is your best bet
[01:40] <crimsun> profx: which prompt? Describe it, or take a digital photo and post it (even better)
[01:40] <jeeves__> Rei-chan:  they "claim" to have a alpha client currently.
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> why would I receive "Buffer I/O error on device hdb: logical block 'some number'", when trying to overwrite a fedora partition with a brand new Ubuntu install, which a dual booting 64bit Windows machine ?
[01:40] <Jeruvy> so getting back to the answer for my question, I'd like to shortcut this.
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> which = with
[01:40] <PiNE> i have checked google and the forums and can't find anything related to my sound warning, i would really like some help with it.
[01:40] <profx> so my X must not be working with my nvidia card maybe?
[01:40] <jeeves__> Bisuitian_warhe:  well, from what I see, it dosen't like my M$ box either.  it's slow, choppy, etc.  I'd like to know how they made their "grid" though
[01:40] <ioerror> I'm trying to use preseeding and I can't seem to get shell commands to execute during the d-i preseed/late_command stage
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> googling the error shows a hardware failure, but isn't specific
[01:40] <quiketaz> who is testing fesity ?
[01:40] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Welcome to Second Life.
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Assuming you use gentoo, I'll assume you're pretty savy. I have a NTFS part, but linux sees it as swap, but everything is there right
[01:41] <crimsun> profx: quite probably. Which Nvidia card is it?
[01:41] <jrib> Jeruvy: gksudo gedit  in a launcher maybe?  But in that case you should just keep the first one open while you experiment
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I'm testing Feisty!
[01:41] <rower> hello.. /q me, im installing ati graphic card..
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I consider it stable :P
[01:41] <profx> crimsun: root@host:/# command prompt
[01:41] <rower> need help
[01:41] <crimsun> PiNE: use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and pastebin the info
[01:41] <profx> a standard command prompt
[01:41] <quiketaz> I'm testing with dell latitude d600
[01:41] <crimsun> PiNE: then tell me the URL.
[01:41] <quiketaz> but my video is slow
[01:41] <rower> need help confing ati graphic card..
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> quiketaz: Video card?
[01:41] <jeeves__> Rei-chan:  thanks.  I'm not sure how to do anything in it though.  the company I work for does ads for real world places in it.
[01:41] <ioerror> In addition, I wanted two extra packages to install and they don't seem to installwith d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server
[01:41] <quiketaz> rowe wich model?
[01:41] <ioerror> I'm using 6.06LTS
[01:41] <Jeruvy> jrib: bah, I'm doing that already.
[01:41] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Unfortunately, the more people on a grid, the choppier it gets.
[01:42] <rower> quiketaz: ati radeon x700 pro..
[01:42] <crimsun> profx: right, so which Nvidia card is it (as I just asked)?
[01:42] <jrib> Jeruvy: I don't understand what you want then
[01:42] <PiNE> crimsun, thanks i am checking into that right now.
[01:42] <jeeves__> Rei-Chan:  that's a given though.
[01:42] <Rei-chan> Well, will be.
[01:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: No it's any linux box, windows refuses to boot (no error) and other apps seeing it as ntfs
[01:42] <LordLimecat> jrib: from a comment you made earlier, i take it you dont think sudo gedit /etc/somefile is a good idea?
[01:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Arch linux is nice :P
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> 1k+ users.. nice!
[01:42] <Newish> Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on how I might get the back button on my mouse to work un Edgy?
[01:42] <jrib> LordLimecat: no, that's fine.  Which comment?
[01:43] <jrib> !mouse | Newish
[01:43] <ubotu> Newish: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:43] <LordLimecat> about " if you need a text editor in root mode...."
[01:43] <rower> can someone get me quickhelp with ati graphic config
[01:43] <acoward> ~/quit
[01:43] <rower> aticonfig section
[01:43] <profx> looking for the answer, one sec
[01:43] <rower> what to write..
[01:43] <arrenlex> !ati | rower
[01:43] <jrib> LordLimecat: oh, yeah, it's not the kind of think you should be doing so often that typing sudo is a burden imo
[01:43] <ubotu> rower: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:43] <LordLimecat> ah
[01:43] <ivanhoe> execuse me  how can i enter at internet with ubutu with fax modem
[01:44] <ivanhoe> internal
[01:44] <LordLimecat> jrib, you seem to be the expert on things here
[01:44] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Hmm. That's... very odd. Unfortunately I'm not sure what's going on. Have you examined the partition to verify its actually an NTFS partition?
[01:44] <rower> ubotu: well kinda already installed them.. now it states that it could be usefull to run aticonfig..
[01:44] <LordLimecat> i have a few issues that are quite odd o.0
[01:44] <LordLimecat> the first one is possibly not an issue'
[01:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Well in gparted it comes up as an 82 gigabyte swap partition set to boot
[01:44] <arrenlex> rower: That guide gives you information about how to configure.
[01:44] <jrib> LordLimecat: nah, not really
[01:44] <aron> who can help me i need to unrar something and i dont know how
[01:44] <rower> thanx
[01:44] <jrib> !unrar | aron
[01:44] <ubotu> aron: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:44] <rower> lynx is the shit then :/
[01:44] <salty> hmm
[01:44] <PriceChild> !bot | rower
[01:44] <ubotu> rower: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:44] <posingaspopular> !language
[01:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:45] <LordLimecat> well, they are the kind of issues that im sure noone will feel like trying to troubleshoot unless i ask someone specifically
[01:45] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Wow. That's... wtf. It should know its an NTFS partition.
[01:45] <salty> rower try the ubuntu guide
[01:45] <arrenlex> PriceChild: When you say something long to ubotu, he pms you to say he is a bot.
[01:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: do you think it's a partition table issue?
[01:46] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: I'd verify with fdisk that its actually set to NFTS, yes. I'm kinda grasping at straws, I've never seen anything like that. Every box I've had knew that a certain partition was either FAT or NTFS based.
[01:46] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Since multiple boxes think its swap instead of NTFS, I'd say its the partition and not the linux software.
[01:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: See, with the latest wines I can play all my games (halo, guild wars, cod2, etc)
[01:46] <joe4444> should a 2nd hard disk be mounted in /mnt/ or in the root?
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: So yeah, i just wanna vmware itunes
[01:47] <rower> salty: well im not in x so its a problem
[01:47] <arrenlex> !amarok | Biscuitian_Warhe
[01:47] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Yeah, when I rebuild my normal PC, I plan to throw wine on and boom, run em.
[01:47] <ubotu> Biscuitian_Warhe: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[01:47] <LordLimecat> joe4444: AFAIK, disks are generally mounted in /media/afolderyouname
[01:47] <aron> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> arrenlex: Last time I check Amarok doesn't have the iTMS
[01:47] <joe4444> LordLimecat, i thought that was for removeable media like CDs, DVDs, and USB keys
[01:48] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: You own an iPod and use iTunes store to buy stuff, don't you?
[01:48] <arrenlex> Biscuitian_Warhe: Oh no! How ever will you get drm-encumbered media in a proprietary format now?!
[01:48] <crimsun> Rei-chan: better. It supports magnatune.
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: I'm more of a banshee person myself, though I heard songbird is good
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Yup
[01:48] <salty> using wireless while sailing is kinda flighty
[01:48] <LordLimecat> joe4444: i DO remember once umpon a time being told to mount stuff in /mnt, but the guides ive seen say mount in /media
[01:48] <LordLimecat> and i have 3-4 ntfs drives mounted in /media
[01:48] <crimsun> LordLimecat: FHS.
[01:48] <joe4444> crimsun, that's what i was reading just now...
[01:48] <aron> sudo apt-get install unrar does not work
[01:49] <crimsun> !unrar
[01:49] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:49] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But not EVERY company will see to magnatune seeing as they don't want to use DRM to protect the companies music from the 3000 pirates in the world
[01:49] <aron> !info unrar-free
[01:49] <profx> well now
[01:49] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:49] <nutterpc> i must be one of the lucky ones, no problems at all with my linux install, hehehe :)
[01:49] <profx> its an ATI card
[01:49] <Zambezi> Is EXT3 slow copying files between two harddrives?
[01:49] <nblracer> need help on setting up a network. between windows and linux. On the linux PC i can see all the files shared on the window pc, but cant read them
[01:49] <LordLimecat> crimsun: well, most guides, including the ubuntuguides wiki, say mount in /media
[01:49] <profx> all this time I thought it was Nvidia
[01:49] <crimsun> profx: so you need to follow the fglrx instructions, then
[01:49] <joe4444> crimsun, it doesn't seem to indicate where a internal hdd should be mounted b/c it says /mnt/ is for temporary mounts and /media/ is for removeable media, so...?
[01:49] <boci^> http://rafb.net/p/ac8IT532.html
[01:49] <boci^> any idea?
[01:49] <PriceChild> Zambezi, ext3 is a slow filesystem according to many... however its extremely reliable
[01:50] <profx> fglrx?
[01:50] <crimsun> profx: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:50] <profx> so what do I do from command line?
[01:50] <crimsun> profx: under the ATI section, there's a walk-through
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> fglrx sucks xD
[01:51] <Zambezi> PriceChild, I took it because it's stable. Thanks for answer.
[01:51] <joe4444> profx, i suggest Envy... just google: envy linux ...should be the 3rd or 4th link
[01:51] <PriceChild> !envy joe4444 profx
[01:51] <PriceChild> !envy | joe4444 profx
[01:51] <ubotu> joe4444 profx: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[01:51] <Rei-chan> Price, what's that channel for Beryl and other cool stuff?
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Beryl!
[01:51] <PriceChild> Rei-chan, #ubuntu-effects
[01:51] <joe4444> PriceChild, ?
[01:51] <posingaspopular> #beryl
[01:52] <PriceChild> joe4444, means you don't have to search for the url ;)
[01:52] <joe4444> PriceChild, oh =)
[01:52] <salty> i'm sorry if i don't answer directly but i'm sailing and my connection to the internet comes and goes
[01:53] <joe4444> sailing?
[01:53] <salty> yep
[01:53] <erstazi> a'hoy mate
[01:53] <PiNE> crimsun, i was going to give you some long winded details about my situation but, although i don't fully understand them, i think this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9544/  will be way more comprehensive then anything i would have said!.
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh!
[01:53] <salty> hence the name salty
[01:53] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:54] <crimsun> PiNE: so your audio in inaudible?
[01:54] <crimsun> s/in/is/
[01:54] <PiNE> crimsun, yep except in rhythmbox and listen music player.
[01:54] <joe4444> so... is there a standard location to mount extra internal hard disks?
[01:54] <crimsun> joe4444: /media
[01:54] <theherbalizer> i need help understanding this error:  ""configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0    libpanelapplet2-0 >= 2.0.0) were not met. Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.""
[01:55] <joe4444> crimsun, so /media/ isn't exclusively for removeable media?
[01:55] <LordLimecat> PiNE: what audio players do NOT work--what have you tried
[01:55] <crimsun> PiNE: are you using Software Sound Mixing (in System> Preferences> Sound) ?
[01:55] <erstazi> joe4444: nope
[01:55] <joe4444> k, thanks
[01:55] <crimsun> joe4444: no, it's not.
[01:55] <erstazi> joe4444: even other partitions
[01:55] <PiNE> crimsun, all system sounds do not work. vlc, mplayer, totem and amorok all do not work
[01:56] <joe4444> the FHS says "Mount points for removable media such as CD-ROMs" so i wasn't sure
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: ok, start by unmuting 'Master' and muting 'IEC958'
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: the essential question is whether you want to use your onboard or your usb
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: currently the default audio device is the onboard, not the usb
[01:57] <PiNE> crimsun, i want it to be the usb
[01:57] <xenalise> Anyone here have any experience with squirrelmail + courier/postfix?
[01:57] <crimsun> PiNE: in a Terminal, execute:  asoundconf set-default-card UA25
[01:57] <crimsun> PiNE: then, log out and back in
[01:58] <|Jason8|> !ntfs
[01:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <|Jason8|> hrm.
[01:58] <|Jason8|> yay.
[01:58] <dimeotane> How can I make ubuntu ask for confirmation when I push my delete key in nautilus.  It's too easy to accentally hit that key and delete something important
[01:58] <PiNE> crimsun, okay i'll give that a try. see you soon!
[01:58] <|Jason8|> Where can I adjust the Ubuntu swap file size?
[01:59] <jrib> dimeotane: you want it to do that even though it just moves the file to Trash?
[01:59] <theherbalizer> i need help understanding this error:  ""configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0    libpanelapplet2-0 >= 2.0.0) were not met. Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.""
[01:59] <|Jason8|> it's not windows! :p
[01:59] <dimeotane> |Jason8|: I don't know for sure.. but I'll bet you need to use gparted to do it
[01:59] <|Jason8|> gparted?  hrm.
[02:00] <facugaich> theherbalizer, check you've got those packages installed and at least that version
[02:00] <theherbalizer> i do
[02:00] <crimsun> theherbalizer: install libpanel-applet2-dev
[02:00] <facugaich> theherbalizer, yeah, -dev versions
[02:00] <theherbalizer> durp
[02:00] <dimeotane> jrib: I guess it is still only moved to the trash.. but I find a file got moved there without me knowing.... I touched that little key accidentally
[02:01] <joe4444> is it possible to eliminate the page file (or partition)?
[02:01] <nblracer> need help on setting up a network. between windows and linux. On the linux PC i can see all the files shared on the window pc, but cant read them
[02:01] <crimsun> joe4444: certainly.
[02:01] <dimeotane> |Jason8|: it's a swap partition in ubuntu.. not a swap file like windows
[02:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh yeah, with Feisty, I can actually enable compiz (desktop-effects) on my notebook (i810) and no lag at all!
[02:01] <crimsun> dimeotane: we support swap files, too, in feisty.
[02:01] <LordLimecat> Biscuitian_Warhe: know what REALLY rocks?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: What!?!
[02:02] <LordLimecat> having compiz AND beryl both installed o.0
[02:02] <joe4444> crimsun, just kill it with gparted, and then extend the boot partition to make use of the extra space?
[02:02] <dimeotane> feisty is sounding more and more cool. I can't wait!
[02:02] <crimsun> joe4444: if that's what you desire, sure.
[02:02] <LordLimecat> you can switch back and forth @ will
[02:02] <|Jason8|> dimeotane, okay.  Can I make it larger?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: Beryl won't play nice on my laptop, though I'm mad feisty won't have slickboot!!
[02:02] <crimsun> joe4444: caution, of course, for any partitioning movement
[02:02] <LordLimecat> also, kibadock is the greatest thing since....well
[02:02] <LordLimecat> ever
[02:02] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: whats the diff betweeen compiz and beryl?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> beryl = commnunity
[02:03] <martalli> compiz is the original and beryl is the fork
[02:03] <theherbalizer> suh-weet, that worked
[02:03] <LordLimecat> compiz has a nice flame effect, but more technically, compiz is more stable, and according to some, beryl is teh devil
[02:03] <theherbalizer> thanks all
[02:03] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:03] <joe4444> crimsun, i'm just thinking that since i'm about to upgrade from 512mb to 2gb RAM a swap partition isn't necessary... or is that a poor assumption?
[02:03] <OMGLAZERS> !nvidia
[02:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Beryl works well with the proprietary drivers in my opinion
[02:03] <malik_> man
[02:03] <Aruin> could some 1 help how do i play dvd on ubuntu ?
[02:03] <malik_> linux is crazy
[02:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: I have 1.5 and it never accese my swap
[02:03] <pestilence> !dvd
[02:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:03] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: One of those "some" would like to point out compiz is the devil, too.
[02:03] <theherbalizer> joe4444: are you running low on hdd space?
[02:03] <LordLimecat> beryl is apparently a "fork" off of compiz which is focused on rapid development, not, according to some, to "proper" development
[02:03] <joe4444> theherbalizer, no...
[02:03] <LordLimecat> i really dont know the truth of that
[02:04] <theherbalizer> joe4444: well, then i'd say that swap never hurts
[02:04] <crimsun> joe4444: a swap partition is still necessary if you plan to use suspend-to-disk, for instance.
[02:04] <cafuego_> joe4444: *any* swap at all will *always* result in better overall performance than none.
[02:04] <LordLimecat> regardless, beryl has some flashier effects, but honestly, compiz is out of the box nicer looking
[02:04] <pestilence> cafuego_: even with infinite RAM?
[02:04] <LordLimecat> however, beryl has a really nice theme manager
[02:04] <theherbalizer> joe4444: i have 2048mb ram right now, and 4096mb swap, just 'cause i tend to do a lot with 10mp photos in gimp
[02:04] <martalli> crimsum, joe4444 suspend-to-disk never worked for me until just recently...mepis does it just perfectly with my dell m1210 laptop
[02:04] <cafuego_> pestilence: A box with infinite ram won't boot.
[02:04] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: I put beryl on instead cause I thought it was the one that works with my intel laptop graphics
[02:05] <joe4444> i guess i'm just tainted by windows... no matter how much free (real) RAM i have on the system windows always seems to start swapping which is annoying as hell... is linux much better about avoiding the swap unless it's really necessary?
[02:05] <pestilence> cafuego_: how about expanding RAM that matches your demands exactly
[02:05] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: i ran into that too, at first, i thought compiz was for ati
[02:05] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: 4GB swap is perhaps a touch over the top
[02:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> dimeotane: In my opinion, compiz runs much better.
[02:05] <LordLimecat> which is false
[02:05] <spas90> /connect irc.spnet.net
[02:05] <facugaich> joe4444, yes it is :)
[02:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> dimeotane: I have a crude laptop graphics card (GMA900)
[02:05] <martalli> joe4444 I remember the days of win98 with those 16mb computer and a constantly running hard drive....glad that's behind us
[02:05] <cafuego_> pestilence: Maybe we'll just stick to actual machines.
[02:05] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: well, it's not going to hurt performance at all (right?), and on a 300gb hdd, i don't notice the space missing
[02:05] <LordLimecat> i have a 7600 gt pirated from my dead core2 system
[02:06] <pestilence> cafuego_: ok, then for an actual machine, if your needs for RAM < your actual RAM, what good does swap do?
[02:06] <profx> Make sure fglrx is not disabled: gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common <-- when I enter this, I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:06] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: Depends in whether an app is going to go mad and start forcing other stuff to be swapped out.
[02:06] <LordLimecat> hooray for cannibalism
[02:06] <LordLimecat> (computer0
[02:06] <|Jason8|> Can anyone tell me the command to increase the swap partition size to a gigabyte+?
[02:06] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: see, you're in a console, you'd have to use sudo nano
[02:06] <joe4444> i don't plan on doing any photo or video editing with my desktop (ubuntu) b/c i love photoshop too much to get rid of XP from my laptop
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Photoshop with WINE!!!!!
[02:07] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: well, things are running plenty fast for my liking
[02:07] <cafuego_> pestilence: do a google on the Linux VM and how it keeps pages in ram (or swap) for faster repeat access.
[02:07] <vontux> !kismet
[02:07] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Supposedly runs well.
[02:07] <profx> gives the same error with nano
[02:07] <profx> just tried it
[02:07] <theherbalizer> Biscuitian_Warhe: what? why not gimp?
[02:07] <joe4444> well my laptop display is much better for photoshop... 1600x1200 vs 1440x900
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I like gimp. Just saying to the guy with XP
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Are you sure you're using sudo not gksudo
[02:08] <cafuego_> joe4444: After a year of using gimp only, you'll be hating photoshop (I did)
[02:08] <boci^> cafuego_: hihi
[02:08] <profx> i was logged in as su
[02:08] <vontux> what problems can arise if you uncomment all repos in the sources.list file?
[02:08] <joe4444> cafuego, well i'll give it a try =)
[02:08] <boci^> cafuego_: xfs_repair -L solved the problem
[02:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: don't worry about sudo then, just do nano
[02:08] <cafuego_> boci^: ouch
[02:08] <profx> so I did exactly what was written
[02:08] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: photoshop never made sense to me =/
[02:08] <Arafangion> cafuego_: After a year of using the Gimp, you'll /also/ hate the Gimp ;)
[02:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> don't use gksudo or gksu either
[02:08] <PriceChild> vontux, none really.... some packages are just not officially supported.
[02:08] <theherbalizer> Arafangion: lol
[02:08] <cafuego_> Arafangion: nah, you'll just wish they'd release the next version a sooner ;-)
[02:09] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: I've been using it since version 2.0 on m68k mac.
[02:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wish Linux has a better InDesign clone, Scribus doesn't cut it
[02:09] <boci^> I draw a lesson: Never give up :)
[02:09] <vontux> PriceChild: ah, thx
[02:09] <whonicca> what command do i have to type to get the kernel that uses SMT
[02:09] <joe4444> speaking of XP on linux... i've used VMware a good bit on XP to test linux distros, and it's always had good performance... how does Wine compare to VMware on linux?
[02:09] <xexos> i get "Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem" how do i fix that? >.< (yes im a n00b)
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: As of Edgy, it autodetects the kernel you need, smp should be set up
[02:10] <cafuego_> whonicca: SMP you mean? Just install the -generic kernel on Edgy.
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: Completely different animal.
[02:10] <PriceChild> xexos, what are you trying to do when you get that?
[02:10] <Rei-chan> WINE is not an emulator.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: Wine typically works well
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: vmware essentially emulates the entire PC such that you can then install the operating system inside it.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: I can use it for good gaming, so xD it rocks
[02:10] <joe4444> so wine just lets you run 1 specific windows app?
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: wine runs the programs natively.
[02:10] <xexos> PriceChild: when i try to play Q3, i got openlibal or w/e it is
[02:10] <jonathan1> Hello, I need help.
[02:10] <profx> ok
[02:11] <profx> looks like I got it
[02:11] <francois> jonathan1: ask
[02:11] <jonathan1>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart}
[02:11] <jonathan1> oops
[02:11] <joe4444> hmm, i'll have to read more about it then i guess
[02:11] <jonathan1>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[02:11] <jonathan1>    ...fail!
[02:11] <PirateHead> I can't import photos from my camera unless I'm root. Is there a way to fix that?
[02:11] <joe4444> thanks
[02:11] <Arafangion> joe4444: Though, some libraries aren't implemented, but generally if it works on win98, and doesn't require special purpose drivers, it should work.
[02:11] <prog> hello
[02:11] <jonathan1> I get that when starting sshd.
[02:11] <xexos> !pastbin
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <xexos> !pastebin
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <cafuego_> jonathan1: be root
[02:11] <whonicca> Biscuitian_Warhe, i dist-upgraded from dapper
[02:11] <jonathan1> I am
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> folks, do they make a 64bit intel version?
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> !64 bit
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: of what?
[02:12] <francois> PirateHead: well, only sudo, or root, can mount, maybe thats your problem
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, of ubuntu?
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, ubuntu LTS
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, yes
[02:12] <cafuego_> jonathan1: is it atready running?
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: Just go to synaptic and find the -generic version of the kernel
[02:12] <Arafangion> whonicca: There are 64-bit intel CPU's.
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> where? I only see amd
[02:12] <theherbalizer> CaptainMorgan: use it
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> not intel's
[02:12] <PriceChild> !64bit | CaptainMorgan
[02:12] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wanna Quad core intel!
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> use the amd ?
[02:12] <whonicca> Biscuitian_Warhe, any console command =\ im via ssh
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, its the same ;)
[02:12] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: The AMD64 runs fine on Intel 64bit, unless you have Itanium, in which case: ahahaa! ;-)
[02:12] <jonathan1> cafuego_: Not that I'm aware, I can't connect from my laptop
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, intel and amd call them different... but they're really the same ;)
[02:12] <theherbalizer> CaptainMorgan: intel is using amd's instruction set on their procs, it will work
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: h/o
[02:12] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Intel's copied AMD with the current most popular consumer 64-bit cpu.
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What's Edgy's current kernel??
[02:12] <PirateHead> francois: perhaps it is, but I was under the impression that I should be able to. When I plug in my camera, it asks if I would like to import photos, then if I'm not root it spits out an error when I hit OK
[02:12] <vox754> this is crazy I'm using "irc" from the command line, no X. You should try it at least once. "sudo aptitude install ircii"
[02:13] <crimsun> Biscuitian_Warhe: 2.6.17-11
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> thanks
[02:13] <whonicca> h o?
[02:13] <animesh> can someone help me seeing wat has gone wrong with beryl
[02:13] <CaptainMorgan> alright.. Ill give it a go.. thanks
[02:13] <Arafangion> vox754: With screen, of course.
[02:13] <PriceChild> whonicca, hold on
[02:13] <jonathan1> vox754: Try irssi :)
[02:13] <francois> PirateHead: what are the errosr?
[02:13] <cafuego_> jonathan1: What does /var/log/syslog say about it?
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: hold on...
[02:13] <Arafangion> Yeah, irssi is nicer.
[02:13] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: Btw, for a desktop box, use 32bit.
[02:13] <PirateHead> francois: it says i/o library error, make sure another kernel module is not accessing the device and taht you have read/write priviledges
[02:13] <prog> hi i'm looking for a player that will play all types of movie files
[02:13] <theherbalizer> yeah, 64bit is basically useless right now for home users
[02:13] <jonathan1> cafuego_: Wait, It is started, sorry. But I can't connect from any other computer
[02:14] <PirateHead> francois: that error does not occur if I manually run the import wizard as root
[02:14] <Arafangion> !multimedia > prog
[02:14] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, why? my desktop is a 64 bit machine
[02:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[02:14] <cafuego_> jonathan: hmm.
[02:14] <theherbalizer> unless you have an app that specifically demands 64bit, it's going to be a hassle doing what you normally do
[02:14] <prog> is that the name of the player ara?
[02:14] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: Most users have needs that are not (easily) addressed on Dapper 64bit. (Like java applets, flash, video)
[02:14] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: 64-bit computing doesn't really give the customer that many advantages.
[02:14] <vox754>  Arafangion yeah, I'm using "ircii" because  I couldn't remember that irssi, I'll try it right away.
[02:14] <theherbalizer> 90% of the apps out there are 32 bit, things like flash, audio/video players, games
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> for some reason it won't let me install the 32 bit version.. "buffer io error: hdb 'some number'"
[02:15] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Unless you have more than 4GB of ram, and run at least one program that actually requires more than 4 GB of ram.
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> hanging
[02:15] <PriceChild> Arafangion, if will with intensive things like video encoding ;)
[02:15] <jonathan1> hmm, it's working now :(
[02:15] <PirateHead> CaptainMorgan: it is frequently a hassle to run a 64-bit operating system. Unless it is critical that you are able to use 64-bit apps, it is probably more trouble than the worth.
[02:15] <jonathan1> thanks anyway
[02:15] <jonathan1> i'm also here as Peppery :P
[02:15] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: it eventually boils down to: don't use flash or do a 32bit chroot, which is a PITA for normal desktop users.
[02:15] <Arafangion> PriceChild: Perhaps - if that program specifically has 64-bit optimizations, but it could even become slower due to larger pointers.
[02:16] <cafuego_> I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's more of a hassle than even I'm willing to put up with.
[02:16] <Peppery> Thanks anyway cafuego_
[02:16] <cafuego_> Peppery: <heh>
[02:16] <AsusM2N-MX> can i transfer a HDD on 1 computer to another and expect it to boot up?
[02:16] <cafuego_> Peppery: What error were you getting? Connection refused?
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> AsusM2N-MX: most likely
[02:17] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Pretty much yes.
[02:17] <vox754> CaptainMorgan 32 bit is the best. Once you get experience then install Linux 64 on your electronic controlled toilet, should you have one.
[02:17] <Peppery> cafuego_: It's working, but not from the computer I want it to :P
[02:17] <AsusM2N-MX> what abt the video options? do i need to change those to at least generic?
[02:17] <Peppery> I'm getting a "No route to host" error, even though i'm telling it the IP of the machine.
[02:17] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Don't put a scsi drive from a sparc into a sata pentium 4 though.
[02:17] <CaptainMorgan> vox754, experience is not the issue
[02:17] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: There is a term: "Marketing bullshit".
[02:17] <cafuego_> Peppery: So your routing/connectivity is the problem, not sshd.
[02:17] <AsusM2N-MX> no scsi or sata drives on my new comp
[02:17] <Peppery> cafuego_: Yeah, I'm an idiot. Thanks.
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> folks, cafuego do you know why I am receiving: buffer i/o error on device hdb logical block "some number" when trying to install ubuntu?
[02:18] <AsusM2N-MX> but different video/ethernet/sound cards
[02:18] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: CD broken. try a different one. (burn a new one?)
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> I googled and deduced 'old hardware' which is not the case
[02:18] <Aruin> i need a uri handeler for dvd where do i find one?
[02:18] <morbi> french channel for ubuntu please ? :x
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> CD? cafuego for sure?
[02:18] <PirateHead> !fr | morbi
[02:18] <ubotu> morbi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:18] <morbi> thanks ;)
[02:18] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: is your cd or dvd drive theprimary slave?
[02:18] <PirateHead> no problem
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, Ill do that before I let my brand new hardware be called old :)
[02:19] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Try "check CD for defects" boot option.
[02:19] <facugaich> Can anyone check my xorg.conf? It looks weird. I have Dapper with fglrx driver. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9555/ Thank You!
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> Arafangion, did that.. none
[02:19] <|Jason8|> wget http://siegie.sin.khk.be/diskmounter      << That command is supposed to fetch that script, but I think the link is broken.  Can someone verify for me?
[02:19] <vicente> sup guys
[02:19] <cafuego_> Arafangion: if it's producing an io error you can pretty much assume there *is* a defect and not bother testing ;-)
[02:19] <PirateHead> sup vicente
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, uhm... Ill have to check
[02:19] <vox754> cafuego_ do you know if current versions of Ubuntu can be installed on that Intel 64 processors that are incompatible with i386?
[02:19] <dimeotane> anyone use sbackup alot and can tell me how to make it so the backup file  can be put onto DVD-RW
[02:19] <vicente> anyone know of a place to play wargames online?
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> I forget.. it was functioning as a server and has been untouched for more than 40 days
[02:20] <Orfeous> vicente, hey ;)
[02:20] <Arafangion> cafuego_: Yes, but certain people like the assurance. ;)
[02:20] <vicente> sup Orfeous, any progress?
[02:20] <cafuego_> vox754: The 64bit version yes.
[02:20] <dimeotane> vincente: tremulous and enemy territory
[02:20] <PriceChild> vox754, 64bit processors aren't incompatible with i366....
[02:20] <cafuego_> vox754: The 32bit version *would* be fine if your 386 has a LOT of ram. LOTS and LOTS.
[02:20] <vicente> dimeotane, i meant more of the "break into this computer" type of wargame
[02:20] <Aruin> i cant seem to get dvd movies to work can some 1 help ?
[02:20] <vox754> PriceChild There is one, check the wikipedia info.
[02:21] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego_ yes it is the slave... but I installed the cable according to the label "hard drive" and "slave/cdrom"
[02:21] <dimeotane> vicente: since when is breaking computers considered 'wargames"  there's got to be *some* killing involved =)
[02:21] <AsusM2N-MX> and uhh can i have two different kernels residing on the same partition? for e.g. one for amd-k7 and one amd64-generic??
[02:21] <PirateHead> vicente: there is a "cracking challenges" website somehwhere, but it's pretty lame
[02:21] <Orfeous> vicente, yes.. but i think i need your help
[02:21] <cafuego_> vox754: Don't confuse Itanium and itanium 2 (ia64) with Pentium 4, Xeon and Core2. (x86_64). They are two completely different architectures.
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego_, that would cause those errors?
[02:22] <reap> no matter what installation i use of ubuntu in both 6.06 or 6.10 i have the same problem...once it going into graphical mode the screen is all messed up, anyone know what hte problem may be/
[02:22] <reap> ?
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> it basically hung with those errors at instll
[02:22] <vicente> i knew this one website that hosted live boxes for teams of crackers to break into. they had contest like "king of the hill" the only thing was you had to tell them exactly how you did it to break in
[02:22] <PirateHead> vicente: if you're interested in those wargames, you should get in touch with the FBI =D
[02:22] <Orfeous> vicente, i have got oddcastv3,jackd and xmms working with shoutcast BUT when i play i cant hear anything myself.
[02:22] <vicente> Orfeous, go ahead and pm me ill be right back
[02:22] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: I'd assume a busted disc and try a new one - burn it at 8x or 16x.
[02:22] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX YES. The kernel is used during the boot process. Then it just sits there
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> hey can anyone help me? everytime i try to run update i get this E: Type 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is not known on line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:22] <aSt3raL> reap: try installing the latest video drivers
[02:23] <ub3r_n00b> whats wrong?
[02:23] <vicente> PirateHead,  ALL wargames that i know of are completely legal and under supervision. ;)
[02:23] <vox754> cafuego_ yes that is what I meant. I just didn't remembered the names of those other processors.
[02:23] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, and others, thanks for your help
[02:23] <aSt3raL> reap: also make sure your xorg.conf file is correct
[02:23] <reap> asteral: how do i do that...i cant even get ubuntu installed
[02:23] <cafuego_> no sane human you'll ever meet would use itanium, so you may as well assume they don't exist ;-)
[02:23] <aSt3raL> reap: i thought you had it installed
[02:23] <preaction> ub3r_n00b: sounds like you corrupted your sources.list, might want to restore from a backup (or find a default one on the wiki)
[02:23] <dimeotane> reap:  how much ram is on your system?
[02:23] <PirateHead> vicente: that's not what I'm talking about -- the FBI is doing really interesting (usually even legal!) work in the area of "virtual" engagements
[02:23] <timetrap> yo quick cdrw question - If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:23] <PriceChild> ub3r_n00b, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit your line 33 to remove that entry.
[02:24] <reap> 1GB Corsair XMS DDR Dual Channel
[02:24] <dimeotane> k thats good
[02:24] <preaction> timetrap: use a burning program to write to it?
[02:24] <nipplesrulz> eh
[02:24] <vox754> cafuego_ but the processor DOES exist, so I'm wondering, has Intel discontinued them?
[02:24] <ub3r_n00b> edit it?
[02:24] <dimeotane> reap: u put in the live cd and boot it what happens?
[02:24] <ub3r_n00b> what should it say?
[02:24] <reap> also have a nVidia 7800GT (EVGA) and nforce4 ultra chipset
[02:25] <timetrap> Precaution - I tired that but  `cdrecord -scanbus` does not work
[02:25] <timetrap> (yes I sudo'd it)
[02:25] <cafuego_> vox754: Not really, but they cost a LOT of money... and as far as I'm aware a decent itanium is actually slower at compiling a kernel than my cheap-ass amd64.
[02:25] <reap> i put in the cd...it goes to the load loading graphic(its messed up looking) then it goes into the screen with the pink background and i cant read what on it
[02:25] <reap> image is all torn looking and distorted
[02:25] <cafuego_> vox754: They're used in some high-end systems that need high memory bandwidth - but most companies would probably use amd opterons for that instead.
[02:26] <dimeotane> did you try safe boot mode?
[02:26] <ub3r_n00b> wait...i think its fixed
[02:26] <reap> ya
[02:26] <reap> same thing
[02:26] <reap> tried alternate disk
[02:26] <reap> same thing
[02:26] <dimeotane> also try changing resolutions with ctrl alt and plus on the numpad..
[02:26] <reap> ya
[02:26] <reap> tried taht
[02:26] <dimeotane> you'll need to edit your xorg.conf file
[02:26] <dimeotane> what video card u have?
[02:26] <vox754> cafuego_ but Opteron is x86_64 right? In any case, do you agree that Intel screwed up?
[02:26] <vicente> sorry about that Orfeous
[02:26] <reap> nvidia 7800GT from EVGA
[02:27] <AsusM2N-MX> can someone tell me why i cant see kernel images for amd64 through apt-cache search?
[02:27] <timetrap> If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:27] <cafuego_> vox754: pretty much
[02:27] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Did you install a 64bit Ubuntu?
[02:27] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX try "aptitude search kernel" or "linux"
[02:27] <vicente> is there any reliable way of benchmarking transfers from linux to windows using ftp, smb, and http?
[02:28] <dimeotane> reap: you might find something on the forums : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380191&highlight=nvidia+7800GT
[02:28] <timetrap> I need a person who is good with devices, anyone?
[02:28] <reap> ill take a look, thanks dimeotane
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> timetrap: ask the question, then you'll see who is ;)
[02:28] <timetrap> If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:29] <cafuego_> timetrap: It does that magically by itself.
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> timetrap: Should do it by itself, though I dunno, you might wanna check about that
[02:29] <timetrap> no it does not
[02:29] <cafuego_> timetrap: Yes, it does.
[02:29] <timetrap> not after you installed
[02:29] <dimeotane> timetrap:  just a guess, but maybe the firmware needs updating?
[02:29] <vox754> timetrap it shouldn't matter as long as you can burn to discs.
[02:29] <timetrap> I updated the firmware
[02:29] <AsusM2N-MX> hmm still no amd64
[02:29] <timetrap> I cannot burn discs
[02:30] <cafuego_> timetrap: Insert blank cd, burn.
[02:30] <AsusM2N-MX> i can only see k7
[02:30] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Did you install a 64bit Ubuntu?
[02:30] <ohir> timetrap kernel knows, cdrecord should know too
[02:30] <AsusM2N-MX> nope its not 64 bit
[02:30] <timetrap> nope, when I insert a blank disk, no window pops up for the gnome cd/dvd creator
[02:30] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX do a "aptitude update" to uptade the database then try again.
[02:30] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: What is the output of 'uname -a' ?
[02:30] <timetrap> but in my dvd-r the window pops up
[02:31] <Trae> anyone know of any good gui patch management tools for Linux?
[02:31] <dazjorz> Hi
[02:31] <Orfeous> vicente, use dbench
[02:31] <AsusM2N-MX> uname -a : Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[02:31] <timetrap> trae: apt-get
[02:31] <cafuego_> timetrap: Mine doesn't pop up anything either, but I cna still burn discs just fine.
[02:31] <timetrap> Really?
[02:31] <Orfeous> vicente, it doesnt work pm you
[02:31] <ohir> timetrap unless its an ancient atapi.
[02:31] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: You installed a 32bit Ubuntu. That doesn't have 64bit kernels.
[02:31] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX you are not using 6.10, are you?
[02:31] <timetrap> when I do sudo cdrecord -scnbus nothing comes up
[02:31] <cafuego_> No, 2.6.15 is 6.06
[02:32] <Luis07> how can I specify an hour for my computer to turn off?
[02:32] <|Jason8|> GAH
[02:32] <AsusM2N-MX> is there a generic kernel that works with both 32/64 bit cpus?
[02:32] <Trae> timetrap, you can use apt to deal with a patch you did from CVS???
[02:32] <AsusM2N-MX> im on dapper still
[02:32] <dazjorz> How do I check if Intel SpeedStep is supported and enabled?
[02:32] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: yes, the one you;re using now.
[02:32] <timetrap> if it is an older atapi what are my options?
[02:32] <dimeotane> timetrap : check in gnomebaker for preferences -->devices... you'll see what modes are detected for your burner
[02:32] <vox754> cafuego_ and past Ubuntus had specific Kernels right? I think this has been discontinued in favor of the generic.
[02:32] <timetrap> Trae: oh you just asked for a patch managment tool, missed the CVS
[02:33] <vicente> thanks for the dbench suggestion, im just trying to find something to grab files at LAN parties with faster :)
[02:33] <AsusM2N-MX> cafuego_: will k7 kernel work with amd64 cpu?
[02:33] <cafuego_> timetrap: cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus
[02:33] <kbrooks> why is the generic kernel good?
[02:33] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Yes
[02:33] <timetrap> dimetone: gnomebaker, is that the default install?
[02:33] <foormea> hey all. i'd need a ubuntu jedi master to help me change the configuration of hal (i think) to change the automounting points without touching fstab :)
[02:33] <AsusM2N-MX> cafuego_: wooooot
[02:33] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Less opportunity for people to wreck their system by installing an incompatible kernel.
[02:33] <timetrap> When I insert an audio cd sound juicer wont pull it up
[02:34] <cafuego_> timetrap: is the drive detected at bootup?
[02:34] <timetrap> Yes the drive is detected
[02:35] <dimeotane> timetrap: do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[02:35] <timetrap> and yes the last command : cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus worked
[02:35] <timetrap> is gnomebaker good?
[02:35] <dimeotane> i like it
[02:35] <cafuego_> timetrap: *nod* it need to tell it to use the ATAPI drivers, otherwise it assumes you're using scsi.
[02:35] <timetrap> hmmm
[02:35] <preaction> timetrap: i prefer k3b, but that requires loading the KDE libraries
[02:35] <cafuego_> which gives me a nice list of (useless) sata harddisks :-)
[02:35] <illkillyou54321> Hello, I seem to be having an issue with my dell monitor (or perhaps monitor/graphics card combination) when running Ubuntu 6.06.  Namely, it keeps freezing.  I've updated all that I can using the package installer, so I think my drivers are up to date, but after that I'm not sure where to go next...? Any help/ideas that you folks might be willing to graciously provide would be greatly appreciated...  I run a 9700 Pro Radeon Card with a 
[02:36] <timetrap> cafuego how can I tell it to always use ATAPI?
[02:36] <cafuego_> timetrap: I assume it's ATAPI:0,0,0
[02:36] <foormea> timetrap, gnomebaker is just a frontend for cdrecord
[02:36] <timetrap> caf: Bingo
[02:36] <timetrap> foormea: Oh okay. I will try it
[02:36] <foormea> timetrap, you should have a conf file for cdrecord somewhere in /etc or in your ~ directory in which you can put default settings
[02:37] <cafuego_> timetrap: gnomebaker kinda handles that, right clickign an ISO image and choosing 'burn' should also work fine.
[02:37] <foormea> timetrap, well if you've installed gnomebaker then you have cdrecord
[02:37] <dimeotane> foormea:  gnome baker shows the dive capabilities... is there a cdrecord command that does that?
[02:37] <zm635> hey all, I plan on resizing my current ntfs partition to install ubuntu in the remainaing space.  I've been told to use qtparted, or something like that.  How painful is the process and what are the chances I will lose my windows installation?
[02:37] <cafuego_> zm635: it's not painful, 1 in 1000?
[02:37] <dimeotane> zm635: backup if you want to keep anything
[02:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Gah the Arch Linux Voodoo beta made my ntfs into swap yet it's STILL ntfs
[02:37] <adminx> Okay, I got audio using my Bluetooth headset (Motorola HT820) on Feisty (7.04) is there anything I can do to improve the sound grade. Sounds better under Windows. I think I have missed some step...
[02:37] <foormea> dimeotane, there should be? but i'm not an expert
[02:37] <dazjorz> that's the bad thing about a channel with so many users
[02:37] <cafuego_> zm635: But you *MUST* defrag and check for errors.
[02:37] <dazjorz> questions are easily overlooked :(
[02:38] <timetrap> is this a problem with anything, I get it when I run the cdrecord
[02:38] <timetrap> Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
[02:38] <zm635> dimeotane, backup yes, I have two 250gb's here in raid 0 right now, can I make an image of my current drive (a seperate 80gb) and save it there?
[02:38] <foormea> timetrap, sudo hdparm /dev/<relevant with your cd drive>
[02:38] <cafuego_> zm635: Yes, but keep in mind raid0 means all data will be gone if one of the drives dies.
[02:38] <foormea> then you can enable dma in there
[02:38] <mau> does gaim support bonjour?
[02:39] <dimeotane> oooh.. I remember there something about enable DMA in ubuntu... anyone else know about that? or is it a thing from old ubuntu versions
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> yeah
[02:39] <timetrap> Oh thanks!
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> it's....
[02:39] <zm635> cafuego: yeah, i know...  and one of em's clicking methinks D:
[02:39] <foormea> hdparm
[02:39] <cafuego_> ouchies
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sudo hdparm /dev/xxx -p1 i think
[02:39] <zm635> i'll lose all my...  videos...
[02:39] <foormea> man hdparm will tell better :)
[02:39] <cafuego_> hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdX
[02:39] <atomiku> What command shall I do to copy my linux / partition to another partition?
[02:40] <zm635> so, could someone tell me how to make said image?
[02:40] <bibek> namaste room!!
[02:40] <atomiku> Could cp do the job properly?
[02:40] <foormea> cp -r
[02:40] <bibek> !xdm
[02:40] <cafuego_> atomiku: yes, but rsync will be *much* faster
[02:40] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB
[02:40] <atomiku> rsync eh
[02:40] <atomiku> Because the thing is...
[02:40] <atomiku> My hard drive is faulty, got the SMART error, failure imminent etc etc
[02:40] <AsusM2N-MX> is a kernel install simple a matter of apt-get install linux-image-<kernel version>?
[02:40] <timetrap> BANG! it works!
[02:40] <dimeotane> zm635:  what's "said image'
[02:40] <AsusM2N-MX> simply
[02:41] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: yes
[02:41] <timetrap> Thanks foom, dime, and caf
[02:41] <atomiku> normally when I try I access the hard drive, the lil light on my box stays on and normally linux goes into read only mode
[02:41] <dimeotane> timetrap: sweet!  whatd you do to fix?
[02:41] <AsusM2N-MX> ahh good
[02:41] <cafuego_> atomiku: youch
[02:41] <timetrap> you too warhe
[02:41] <atomiku> Yeah
[02:41] <zm635> dimeotane: i wish to make an image of this 80gb i use to boot off and stash it on my raid array.  can I do that through the livecd, or will it not work since the drives are ntfs?
[02:41] <reap> is there any way to edit the xorg.conf file pre-installation?? so that i might be able to install
[02:42] <atomiku> I'm not yet ready to accept it may be permanently f**ked, but im gonna move everything on the faulty hard drive to another hard drive and try and fix it another time
[02:42] <cafuego_> zm635: you've got a chance of trashing the entire NTFS partition, yes
[02:42] <alienseer23> !formosa
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formosa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <dimeotane> reap  drop to term with ctrl-alt f1
[02:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Well
[02:42] <atomiku> So.... rsync.... lemme take a look into this
[02:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> You can recovered a formated HD
[02:42] <doseryder> I added an entry to the menu.lst (for grub) but when i try to boot into the partition, it saids "iinvalid device requested" what does that really suggests.  Any useful inputs is appreciated
[02:42] <atomiku> Yeah
[02:42] <zm635> cafuego_: barf...
[02:42] <PirateHead> atomiku: take a look at Dirvish as well. It uses rsync and provides functionality on top of it
[02:42] <cafuego_> atomiku: after the rsync, run some smartctl tests.
[02:42] <atomiku> once my crap is copied over, im just gonna nuke everythign thats on the harddrive
[02:42] <cafuego_> zm635: the joys of closed source systems
[02:42] <zm635> indeed
[02:42] <PirateHead> atomiku: have no clue whether that's off-topic concerning your question =D
[02:42] <timetrap> This has been a super helpful IRC chat thanks everyone!
[02:43] <dimeotane> zm635:   dd can do a nice image   I think partimage can too
[02:43] <atomiku> When grub tried to load ubuntu it gave me error 18
[02:43] <atomiku> apparently the bios is too old to handle the large sized boot partition...
[02:43] <PirateHead> atomiku: does LILO load it correctly?
[02:43] <atomiku> Havent tried LILO
[02:43] <vox754> PirateHead: do you use LILO?
[02:44] <dimeotane> http://www.partimage.org/Partimage-FAQ
[02:44] <doseryder> I added an entry to the menu.lst (for grub) but when i try to boot into the partition, it saids "iinvalid device requested" what does that really suggests.  Any useful inputs is appreciated
[02:44] <PirateHead> vox754: I have tried it, but I use GRUB.
[02:44] <mark_> Does ubuntu not have libqt4-dev available?  tried to apt-get after apt-get update but I don't see it
[02:44] <dimeotane> http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html
[02:44] <dimeotane> check those two liinks
[02:44] <atomiku> thanks man
[02:44] <vox754> doseryder: you selected a wrong /dev/sdxx in the root line.
[02:45] <zm635> dimeotane: thanks.  and doesnt DD stand for "delete drive"?  :P
[02:45] <dimeotane> zm635:  what format is your raid.. the drive you're backing up to?
[02:46] <zm635> ntfs
[02:46] <doseryder> vox754: do you mean this line, root (hd0,6) ?
[02:46] <mau> does gaim support bonjour networking?
[02:46] <dimeotane> could be a problem there.. you'll need to check for ability to write to ntfs
[02:46] <xexos> I need Open GL, what package do i install?
[02:46] <vox754> doseryder: yes... probably... ah, and also the kernel one I think. root=/dev/sdxx
[02:47] <dimeotane> write to ntfs in linux is new.. .with ntfs-3g
[02:47] <mark_> oh, duh. I was ssh'ed into a different computer
[02:47] <doseryder> according to the error message table, err 12 : Invalid device requested This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.
[02:47] <skjr> good evening everybody
[02:48] <skjr> could anybody offer me a bit of assistance with a video driver?
[02:48] <zm635> Error: could not find suitable error message
[02:48] <profx> how do I get a shell open in ubuntu?
[02:48] <jrib> !terminal | profx
[02:48] <ubotu> profx: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:49] <jrib> skjr: which one?
[02:49] <vox754> profx: "gnome-terminal" Ctrl+Alt+1
[02:49] <doseryder> vox754: well, the thing is when i tried to manually mount the partition (win vista) in ubuntu, I mounted it as sda7 which corresponds to the GRUB's hard drive scheme
[02:49] <skjr> jrib - ATI X1300 in Ubuntu 610
[02:49] <jrib> !ati | skjr
[02:49] <ubotu> skjr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <doseryder> vox754 and it mounted
[02:49] <erpo> I'm trying to dd from my cdrom's device to a file on the hard disk to create an ISO file. But something is wrong with the disc and dd has stopped writing to the ISO file about 530MB. Now I can't eject the disc (the light is still flashing) and I CAN'T kill the dd process, even when I sudo kill -9 <PID of DD>. What should I do?
[02:50] <Vik> Hello again
[02:50] <gaminggeek> Hey there
[02:50] <vox754> doseryder: the sda7 numbers are device numbers, so I don't think you can manually override them that easily.
[02:50] <vox754> erpo: try "eject"
[02:51] <jacob> How do i reconfigure a xorg.config
[02:51] <jacob> then settup dual monitors
[02:51] <Vik> Okay so i am the one having the spash screen hang problem
[02:51] <jrib> !dualhead | jacob
[02:51] <ubotu> jacob: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:51] <erpo> vox754: Didn't work. The dd command finally gave up and the disc ejected.
[02:51] <joe4444> jacob, i just went through that whole process... what brand video card?
[02:51] <vox754> jacob: open "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" it has a line in it that you can copy and paste in the trminal
[02:51] <jacob> nvidia
[02:52] <skjr> I keep getting the same error everytime I attempt to install the drivers
[02:52] <joe4444> oh, ati here...
[02:52] <Vik> I tries hitting esc during the boot screen hoping that i would get some sort of command prompt so I could do the "acpi=off" thing but i dont get the prompt
[02:52] <Vik> I also tried the "alt+f2"... nothing
[02:53] <ioerror> is it possible to have more than one d-i preseed/late_command ?
[02:53] <ioerror> ie: string echo foo and then a second string echo bar ?
[02:53] <vox754> Vik: modify the "/boot/grub/menu.lst" there is a line like hiddenmenu, which you need to take off the # hash mark
[02:53] <skjr> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:53] <skjr> Reading package lists... Done
[02:53] <skjr> Building dependency tree
[02:53] <skjr> Reading state information... Done
[02:53] <skjr> Package xorg-driver-fglrx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:53] <skjr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:53] <skjr> is only available from another source
[02:53] <Vik> i was reading that some people with the nvidia card have problems with booting. I have an nvidia7600
[02:53] <skjr> E: Package xorg-driver-fglrx has no installation candidate
[02:53] <jrib> !paste | skjr
[02:53] <ubotu> skjr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:53] <atomiku> !paste | skjr
[02:53] <atomiku> oh
[02:53] <mindstate> where in the /dev/ do usb joysticks show up?
[02:53] <doseryder> vox754: i didn't overide anything, I was trying to say that i mounted sda7 with no problems in ubuntu, of course I would like to be able to boot into it by adding an entry to Grub's menu.lst .  if the device name for the partition is sda7, it should translate to (hd0, 6) rite?  Would u be kind enough to take it look at my menu.lst if I post it in pastebin or something ?
[02:54] <jrib> skjr: you need to have the "restricted" repositories enabled
[02:54] <jrib> !repos | skjr
[02:54] <ubotu> skjr: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:54] <skjr> i believe I do
[02:54] <jrib> skjr: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[02:54] <skjr> ok
[02:55] <xexos> how do i get OpenGL???
[02:55] <vox754> doseryder: well, I'm not using X server so I can't pretty much browse nothing. But let me get this straigth, do you want to be able to boot Vista?
[02:55] <Vik> vox754: how do i modify that? I have ZERO linux experience
[02:55] <khalsa> ok: finally got ubuntu installed, up and running, wireless all ok. Just one question more: Thinkpad X41 tablet PC. Got pen working any everything. I got the XrandR applet to switch the screen rotation (for when I flip the screen), problem is that when I flip the screen, change the rotation, the mouse remains in the same way, so it's going up and down in wierd opposite directions
[02:55] <doseryder> vox754: yes, and it is on sda7
[02:55] <skjr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9562/
[02:56] <Western_Digital> HELLO!
[02:56] <vox754> Vik: "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:56] <bruenig> !hi | Western_Digital
[02:56] <ubotu> Western_Digital: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:56] <Western_Digital> OOO! Thanks!
[02:56] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: Please don't shout.
[02:57] <vox754> doseryder: Ah. For Windows partitions you need other lines, like some "Chainloader +1". I can't tell, somebody may be able to give you those lines.
[02:57] <Western_Digital> Quick question, is there a list of ubuntu compat. NIC? I have a Dell box with an incompat NIC.
[02:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: Try this config (\n means newline)
[02:57] <bruenig> skjr, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:57] <Western_Digital> I just need a cheap PCI NIC to use with Ubuntu
[02:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: title Windows \n root(hdx,x) \n chainloader +1
[02:58] <HentaiSushi> um wow
[02:58] <HentaiSushi> i still conect ehre
[02:58] <HentaiSushi> connect*
[02:58] <HentaiSushi> here*
[02:58] <skjr> Package xorg-driver-fglrx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:58] <skjr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:58] <skjr> is only available from another source
[02:58] <skjr> E: Package xorg-driver-fglrx has no installation candidate
[02:59] <Western_Digital> ANyone? List of cheapie PCI NIC's compat wit' ubuntu?
[02:59] <Vik> vox754 ok but how do i get to the command prompt. When i boot i get a boot menu on the screen. it asks weather i want to load one of TWO ubuntu kernel's (both of which also have  a recovery console option OR windows xp) I can choose either of the "ubuntu options and then it said choose "e", "c", or "b".
[02:59] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: Most should work.
[02:59] <Western_Digital> hmmm
[02:59] <jrib> skjr: don't paste here
[02:59] <Western_Digital> any reccomendations? If you could, find one at ww.newegg.com
[02:59] <Western_Digital> www.newegg.com *
[03:00] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: Well, avoid 3com :)
[03:00] <Cpudan80_> Hello all -- got a problem
[03:00] <bruenig> skjr, do "uname -r"
[03:00] <vox754> Vik: I think it is self explanatory. Type e to edit a line, c for a command line and b to boot a kernel
[03:00] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe Ty for your response and input :> do yo mind taking a look at my menu.lst, I basically followed what the XP entry (which boots and works fine) but when i try to boot into the newly added vista entry it was return error 12: "invalid device request".  So it does recognize a partition but its not liking it
[03:00] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: But personally, for a server, get a really good expensive reliable nic, and get cheap-ass nic's for all desktops.
[03:00] <Cpudan80_> tyring to install on a Gigabyte 965P-DS3
[03:00] <Western_Digital> 3com eh?
[03:00] <skjr> sorry, didn't think 4 lines was really flooding
[03:00] <cipherpunk> hello
[03:00] <skjr> i'll use the pastebin next time
[03:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: pastebit it
[03:00] <Western_Digital> ara, sorry, tight budget, need like a $20 one
[03:00] <khalsa> ok, I undertand previous question is quite specific. Second Q: my kernel is Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-11-generic, does it matter that it's the generic and not one of the -386 ones?
[03:01] <Cpudan80_> It won't detect the CD ROM
[03:01] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: Then get a cheap-ass one ;)
[03:01] <bruenig> khalsa, generic is good
[03:01] <vox754> skjr: it is flooding if you do it again and again.
[03:01] <Western_Digital> any reccomendations? If you could, find one at www.newegg.com
[03:01] <Ctraos> hi
[03:01] <Cpudan80_> It's on IDE channel 4
[03:01] <Cpudan80_> as the master
[03:01] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: If you're fishing in the bargain bin, make sure it supports 100Mbps full duplix.
[03:01] <Cpudan80_> Any ideas as to how to set that as the CD drive?
[03:01] <skjr> i used the pastebin to paste the contents of the file I was asked for
[03:01] <Cpudan80_> err well DVD
[03:01] <bruenig> skjr, uname -r
[03:01] <Western_Digital> ara, oh yah, I know that
[03:01] <skjr> I was just pasting the error, sorry for any inconvenience
[03:02] <Ctraos> any speack spanish i need help
[03:02] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: And don't bother with the 400Mbps ones for now, until you have a better budget :)
[03:02] <vicente> Ctraos, i do
[03:02] <Vik> okay, so i pick the newest "kernel" hit "e" and type in "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"?
[03:02] <skjr> bruenig - 2.6.17-11-generic
[03:02] <Western_Digital> anyone reccomendations? At www.newegg.com would be great
[03:02] <Arafangion> Western_Digital: I'm a cynic, ok? That's what I call the 1Gbps ones.
[03:02] <vox754> Has anyone used the 1000 MBit connection so far?
[03:02] <Western_Digital> ha!
[03:02] <Western_Digital> don't need tha
[03:02] <Western_Digital> t
[03:03] <Arafangion> vox754: 1000 MBit ones?
[03:03] <vox754> Vik: where are you? are you booting the PC or are you already logged in?
[03:03] <Arafangion> vox754: You do realise that most pci busses are limited to about 400mbps?
[03:03] <bruenig> skjr, and you are on 386 right
[03:03] <Ctraos> nescesito ayuda para configurar una red inalambrica acabo de instalar el ubuntu 6.10
[03:03] <skjr> 386?
[03:03] <jrib> !es | Ctraos
[03:03] <ubotu> Ctraos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:03] <vox754> Arafangion: yeah, I mean the network connection, 10/100 and now 1000
[03:03] <vicente> Ctraos,  te puedo ayudar ien 30 minutors?
[03:03] <bruenig> skjr, 32 bit
[03:04] <vicente> Ctraos,  voy a salir pero luego regreso
[03:04] <skjr> oh, sorry, yes
[03:04] <Vik> vox754: I am sitting at home on windows xp (laptop has two hard drives)
[03:04] <rbil> Western_Digital: this one is fine http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833127102
[03:04] <Western_Digital> OOO cool
[03:04] <Arafangion> vox754: The difference being that those 100mbps cards could actually transfer at close to 100mbps on the system bus.
[03:04] <bruenig> skjr, ok then, try this: wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.7-11.2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.7-11.2_i386.deb
[03:04] <Arafangion> vox754: Whereas the 1000mbps ones cannot.
[03:04] <Dagon^> hay guys
[03:04] <jrib> skjr: pastebin the full output from:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx    (including the update stuff)
[03:04] <Western_Digital> thank you VERY much!
[03:04] <Dagon^> serious help please
[03:05] <Dagon^> -
[03:05] <Arafangion> Dagon^: Indeed, your keyboard is stuffed.
[03:05] <Zambezi> Dagon^, Just tell about the problem.
[03:05] <illkillyou54321> Hello, I seem to be having an issue with (I think it's my monitor/graphics card combination) running Ubuntu 6.06.  Namely, it keeps freezing.  I've updated all that I can using the package installer, so my drivers are up to date. Past that, I'm out of ideas.  None of the FAQ's or other bugs seem to apply...
[03:05] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: pastebin is way too busy and not accepting any new submissions at the moment, any other pastebin like sites you can recommend, sry
[03:05] <vox754> Vik: yes, but are you booting Ubuntu or are you already running it, or are you just asking so you can do it later?
[03:05] <Arafangion> doseryder: rafb.net/paste
[03:06] <Luxus> hallo
[03:07] <Dagon^> ok, i've done a /swap(200MB), a /boot(2GB), a usual linux-partition(10GB) and one windows-partition(10GB) and 77GB empty NTFS, i've flagged the /boot but grub starts up in console not in a list
[03:07] <Ctraos> no help in spanish XD i need help in english to configure my wireless conection in ubuntu 6.10 who can help me plz
[03:07] <vox754> Arafangion: yeah, whatever. But have you actually transfer to 1000 Mbps or is it just a myth right now?
[03:07] <bruenig> !howdy | Luxus
[03:07] <ubotu> Luxus: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:07] <Arafangion> Dagon^: 100MB for /boot would be far, far, far more than neccessary.
[03:07] <Dagon^> yeah yeah
[03:07] <vox754> Dagon^: that is BAD.
[03:07] <Luxus> in diesem chat befinden sich fast 1000 leute    hat irgendjemand irgendwas zu sagen??
[03:07] <Arafangion> Dagon^: /swap does not need a mountpoint, but you still only need about 512MB for that.
[03:07] <skjr> jrib - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9565/
[03:08] <jrib> skjr: notice the errors?
[03:08] <xexos> where can i get OpenGL? i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems" erros
[03:08] <bruenig> skjr, ah Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages
[03:08] <Ctraos> plz who can hel me my ubuntu detect me the modem but i need put info
[03:08] <skjr> yes i do
[03:08] <Arafangion> Dagon^: I'd give windows 40GB, and then install ext3 support for windows next time you reboot, rather than messing around with NTFS.
[03:08] <Luxus> thiss iss crazy
[03:09] <skjr> but don't know how to correct them
[03:09] <Peppery> !apache
[03:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:09] <Arafangion> Dagon^: And give linux a 20GB root, and put all the rest of the space into /home
[03:09] <vox754> Arafangion: I want to try those ext3 drivers, which one do you recommend; I think there are four at least.
[03:09] <Aiwuu> hola, alguien habla espaol?
[03:09] <Peppery> Does anyone have any apache optimization tips? It's extremely slow over lan.
[03:09] <Vik> vox754: i guess i'm not understanding the question (BTW thank you VERY much for being so patient with me, i know it's probably very taxing) I am currently on my laptop, on which i am using win xp. I have two physical hard drives in this laptop, of which the second hard drive has Ubuntu installed. When i boot i have the option of booting to either drive.
[03:10] <jrib> skjr: can you download http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  ?
[03:10] <skjr> i'm assuming there is some way I need to enable other repositories?
[03:10] <bruenig> skjr, well it isn't the us repos because I am using them
[03:10] <vox754> Vik: OK, that is better, see?
[03:10] <Arafangion> vox754: http://www.fs-driver.org/ works well.
[03:11] <AsusM2N-MX> is there a way to check if a kernel works with a certain release? for eg. is 2.6.20 works with dapper?
[03:11] <skjr> jrib - nothing happens when I try that
[03:11] <AsusM2N-MX> does = is
[03:11] <Aiwuu> does anybody know why my dvdrom dont read cds? (and dvds...) ... (yes, its fine, it works on windows!><)
[03:11] <jrib> skjr: so it fails to download?
[03:11] <Peppery> jrib: http://www.peppery9.net/Packages.gz
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: Pasted or sent yet?
[03:11] <jacob> Idk were the thing isl!
[03:11] <jrib> Peppery: well I just want to know if /he/ can download it :)
[03:11] <vox754> Arafangion: I wanted to try just one, but then I realized there were like 3 open source and 1 freeware, some with writing capabilities and others read-only, all of them steaming from a book from Windows NT filesystems
[03:12] <Peppery> ah okay, thought you needed a mirror :P
[03:12] <doseryder> http://rafb.net/p/95UZxr65.html
[03:12] <jrib> Peppery: thanks
[03:12] <Arafangion> vox754: I personally use this one.
[03:12] <hexidigital> how can i find the numerical permission value of a file/folder via cli?
[03:12] <Peppery> jrib: Want me to leave it up or not?
[03:12] <doseryder> the added entry is near the bottom, everything else works
[03:12] <Vik> vox754: the version of ubuntu i installed on the second drive is the "DVD 3.51gb x64 AMD version"
[03:12] <jrib> Peppery: nah
[03:12] <doseryder> you will see it
[03:12] <Dagon^> well, i didn't exactly get any help
[03:12] <skjr> jrib - its opening as a text file in firefox
[03:12] <Peppery> hexidigital: ls -l
[03:12] <hexidigital> Peppery:  awesome, thanks :)
[03:12] <vox754> Vik: bad Vik, you should have installed the i386 one, I'll wait.
[03:13] <Western_Digital> HELLO!
[03:13] <Peppery> hexidigital: :)
[03:13] <Peppery> yo!
[03:13] <jrib> skjr: ok, and if you use wget to download it in a terminal, what does the following command return:  file NAME_OF_FILE_YOU_DOWNLOADED
[03:13] <Western_Digital> Okay,
[03:13] <d1gital> I have ubuntu installed on my laptop, but i installed windows on another partition and it repolaced grub with ntldr.  How do i reinstall grub from the livecd?
[03:13] <Vik> vox754: oh crap. why? i DO have a x64 processor on this machine
[03:13] <Western_Digital> does #ubuntu need any moderating?
[03:13] <Peppery> Western_Digital: We're fine.
[03:13] <Western_Digital> I would be GLAD to help
[03:13] <vox754> Vik: the 64 bit doesn't run Java and Flash so you need some tricks to get it done. It is best to use i386 for normal users.
[03:13] <kenthomson> !swiftfox
[03:13] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to ssh into one of my machines and i keep getting an error telling me i need to add the correct host key in "/root/.ssh/known_hosts"... how do i do this?
[03:13] <hexidigital> Peppery:  no.. i mean 777, 644, etc...
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <bruenig> kenthomson, what do you need help with
[03:14] <Peppery> hexidigital: Oh, ls -n
[03:14] <joe4444> OkinawaInstructo, google: ssh public key authentication
[03:14] <Peppery> ?
[03:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> swiftfox is a firefox extension that speeds up firefox i believe....
[03:14] <joe4444> OkinawaInstructo, there are lots of easy to follow guides
[03:14] <vox754> Vik: I also, and many other, have amd64, but we use i386. There is no big difference unless you are running a server with tons of files and memory use.
[03:14] <bruenig> Biscuitian_Warhe, no it isn't
[03:14] <OkinawaInstructo> joe4444: thanks
[03:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> oh. haha.
[03:14] <joe4444> OkinawaInstructo, wait... nvm
[03:15] <joe4444> OkinawaInstructo, regular ssh with password login?
[03:15] <hexidigital> Peppery:  no, that shows the numerical value for the owner :/  ... perhaps i'm asking for something that does not exist
[03:15] <soweto76> OkinawaInstructo, in my experience it means that you should delete lines in that file.
[03:15] <Dagon^> could someone tell me what is wrong?
[03:15] <kenthomson> HELP; Questions; IS swiftfox GPL-ed? Is it proprietary software? Is it worth using? Does it give observable performance boost? Do any of you recommend it/or criticise it out of personal experience or otherwise? And is it really proprietary software? (thats the reason i am not using it)
[03:15] <c0nka> can any1 help me plz
[03:15] <soweto76> OkinawaInstructo, they will be renewed when you try again.
[03:15] <kenthomson> bruenig, thats my question
[03:15] <Vik> vox754: how hard is it to modify? shouldn't the x64 bit version work on a processor capable of x64 operations?
[03:15] <d1gital> I have ubuntu installed on my laptop, but i installed windows on another partition and it repolaced grub with ntldr.  How do i reinstall grub from the livecd?
[03:15] <c0nka> if any1 can try and help me pm plz
[03:15] <bruenig> kenthomson, ok well here is the answer: "yeah sort of, kind of depends on your perspective"
[03:16] <kenthomson> !grub | digital
[03:16] <ubotu> digital: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:16] <joe4444> OkinawaInstructo, usually when i connect to a new host with "ssh user@host.com" it will simply ask me if i want to trust the host, and after that it never asks again
[03:16] <rbil> hexidigital: is this what you're after? http://customdesign.homelinux.net/chmodCalc.html
[03:16] <skjr> jrib - Packages.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[03:16] <kenthomson> bruenig, i sort of expected something less ambiguous ;-)
[03:16] <hexidigital> rbil:  hey, that'll work :)  thanks
[03:16] <bruenig> kenthomson, as did I from your question
[03:16] <c0nka> can any1 help
[03:16] <jrib> skjr: ok, it's not what I thought then
[03:16] <c0nka> plzzzzzzzz pm me
[03:16] <AsusM2N-MX> does linux-image-2.6.20-9-generic kernel work for *ALL* processors?
[03:16] <Vik> vox754: oh..., horsesh*t. All that wasted time, arggggg!
[03:16] <OkinawaInstructo> joe4444: i keep trying that but i still get the same error
[03:16] <bruenig> !anyone | c0nka
[03:16] <Arafangion> AsusM2N-MX: Of course not.
[03:16] <kenthomson> bruenig, anything else you gotta say?
[03:16] <ubotu> c0nka: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:17] <bruenig> kenthomson, what is your question, !swiftfox is not a question
[03:17] <Peppery> hexidigital: sorry, i really don't know. try ls --help
[03:17] <AsusM2N-MX> Arafangion: how abt k7/k8 processors?
[03:17] <kenthomson> ! grub | d1gital
[03:17] <ubotu> d1gital: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:17] <vox754> Vik: yes, but software is a different thing. It involves creating a 32 bit environment inside the 64 bit one, there are tutorials to do so. I've never tried them, though. You are better learning Linux the easy way, then you can just do other stuff.
[03:17] <Arafangion> AsusM2N-MX: It should work on those, but it does NOT work on, eg, my Palm PDA.
[03:17] <hexidigital> Peppery:  rbil sent me a link that will suffice... thanks anyway
[03:17] <AsusM2N-MX> Arafangion: hehehe ok
[03:17] <Arafangion> AsusM2N-MX: Nor the sony PS3
[03:17] <c0nka> anyone
[03:17] <kenthomson> bruenig, i said it above, but here is it again; HELP; Questions; IS swiftfox GPL-ed? Is it proprietary software? Is it worth using? Does it give observable performance boost? Do any of you recommend it/or criticise it out of personal experience or otherwise? And is it really proprietary software? (thats the reason i am not using it)
[03:17] <Arafangion> AsusM2N-MX: Nor the IBM Power5 supercomputer.
[03:18] <skjr> jrib - so do you think I'm not contacting the correct repositories?
[03:18] <vox754> Vik: don't feel bad, 700 MB for the i386 is going to be a piece of cake.
[03:18] <bruenig> kenthomson, proprietary means that it costs money, and it doesn't. It didn't give me too much of a boost, at least not enough for me to drop firefox for it.
[03:18] <soweto76> Vik, many commentators report that 64 is rather slower for most things as well as more limited in what programs will run correctly
[03:18] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: http://rafb.net/p/95UZxr65.html
[03:18] <jrib> skjr: well your files are fine, it should work afaict.  Is it still failing now?
[03:18] <Arafangion> bruenig: Doesn't neccessarily mean that it costs money
[03:18] <skjr> is what failing?
[03:18] <kenthomson> bruenig, proprietary != costs-money. eg.Opera is proprietary software but IS FREEWARE
[03:19] <Arafangion> kenthomson: Not even add-supported now. :)
[03:19] <joe4444> mmmm freeware
[03:19] <jrib> skjr: sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe its near the end, you'll see that vista entry I added in
[03:19] <bruenig> closed source != proprietary
[03:19] <Vik> vox754: Gotcha! Alrighty then guess i have some work to do. The good thing is that i have the "regular" version downloaded already. all i have to do is burn it and boot to it.
[03:19] <skjr> i still get the some index files have failed to load message
[03:19] <bruenig> perhaps I am thinking too much in economic terms
[03:19] <crimsun> kenthomson: the phrase "Free" has particular gravitas to those of us with a Debian heritage [see http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines ] 
[03:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: So do you have a raid setup or something, and vista is located in sda7?
[03:20] <bruenig> is there a specific definition of it as it relates to software, I always called closed source one thing and proprietary another
[03:20] <Arafangion> bruenig: Even in economic terms you're wrong :)
[03:20] <vox754> Vik: yey. Happy happy joy joy.
[03:20] <kenthomson> Arafangion, but none the least, it is proprietary software and until you people learn to drop it, it is not going to help OS in general as it is going to encourage them to engage in further endeavours with closed-source software
[03:20] <Vik> soweto76: ahh did not know that..., well the slower part anyway
[03:20] <jrib> skjr: comment the failing repositories in your sources.list, update, then uncomment and try update again.  Are you comfortable doing this?
[03:20] <bruenig> kenthomson, which is why you don't use bios right
[03:20] <Arafangion> kenthomson: You're talking to the wrong person.
[03:20] <skjr> i know how to comment them out, but what do I update?
[03:20] <kenthomson> bruenig, (for previous statement) you could say something more to illustrate your point
[03:21] <Vik> thanks for all the help..., and uhh.... i'll be back in a few i guess
[03:21] <jrib> skjr: by "update", I mean, "sudo apt-get update"
[03:21] <AsusM2N-MX> what settings will use a generic video source ?
[03:21] <skjr> ahh, ok
[03:21] <Aiwuu> is there an Ubuntu CD updated (because my internet is to slow and i dont want to upgrade it from an old version)
[03:21] <Aiwuu> ?
[03:21] <c0nka> can any1 help
[03:21] <vox754> Vik: yey.
[03:21] <greg_> anyone know how to uninstall or also run windows im getting frustrated because there are windows programs i would like to have
[03:22] <kenthomson> bruenig, The point is we use closed-source only when ABSOLUTELY necessay, never otherwise. If it takes longer/lack some functionality (free software) than we use it over proprietary software instead of the effeciency-loss. But if it is absolutely necessary (BIOS, video-card-drivers), than we have got no other options
[03:22] <skjr> where is that file located again, i remember in etc, but what subdirectory?
[03:22] <bruenig> video card drivers aren't necessary
[03:22] <c0nka> any1
[03:22] <c0nka> come on plz
[03:22] <jrib> skjr: 'locate sources.list' is a command that would help, but the answer is: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <vox754> greg_: virtuallization? VMWare
[03:22] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe no raid setup.  And I'm pretty sure it is on sda7 b/c I tried to manualy mount this vista drive and it worked.  Maybe its worth mention this peculiar pattern.  My Ubuntu boot is on sda5 so I would assume that it is (hd0, 4) which is what I have in the menu.lst too (it boots and everything) but if were to do a find /boot/grub/stage1 in grub it would in fact return (hd1, 4) thats just weird
[03:23] <joe4444> Aiwuu, sure... Feisty is at herd 5 now (i think) and available as an iso
[03:23] <kenthomson> bruenig, i am not here to ram my head against a (instert_whatever_here)
[03:23] <Arafangion> greg_: Which windos programs?
[03:23] <c0nka> can any1 help
[03:23] <Aiwuu> joe4444 ammm and Edgy? :P
[03:23] <jrib> c0nka: instead of asking for someone to help, just repeat your question because I have no idea what the issue is
[03:23] <c0nka> ok lol
[03:23] <pabst> is there anything more frustrating than a Broadcomm wireless nic in a Dell?
[03:23] <Arafangion> pabst: Yes.
[03:23] <joe4444> Aiwuu, i just got an Edgy iso for ubuntu and xubuntu yesterday
[03:24] <Arafangion> pabst: An ATI card in an otherwise excellent laptop?
[03:24] <crimsun> pabst: yes, a persisting, dull pain in the front of one' skull
[03:24] <joe4444> Aiwuu, what exactly do you mean "updated" ?   which version of ubuntu do you have now?
[03:24] <crimsun> one's^
[03:24] <pabst> Arafangion: So Ive heard
[03:24] <vox754> doseryder: I just remembered on Windows partitions you might need to set up some "map" lines, which you may be able to find on the ubuntuforums.org
[03:24] <c0nka> how do i install ubuntu becouse i have d/lded it and put it on disc and dont no how to install it
[03:24] <pabst> crimsun: That would be pretty annoying, but this is providing a dull pain in the front of my skull :)
[03:24] <skjr> jrib - i guess I'm not sure exactly what to comment out
[03:24] <jrib> skjr: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:24] <greg_> well for one is a program for guitar and another is for my phone that has drivers only for windows
[03:24] <bruenig> c0nka, restart your computer with the cd in the drive, make sure your BIOS is set to boot from cdrom
[03:24] <skjr> there are only 4 lines in that file that are not commmented out
[03:24] <Vik> vox754:  you going to be around for a bit?
[03:24] <doseryder> What exactly is error 12: "invalid device requested" "This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors. "
[03:25] <grumillo> hot do i select which version to use in python (i have 2.4 and 2.5 but if i type python i get 2.4) thanks
[03:25] <c0nka> how do i install ubuntu becouse i have d/lded it and put it on disc and dont no how to install it
[03:25] <vox754> Vik: I guess a bit.
[03:25] <Arafangion> greg_: You may have to reboot, or find different programs for linux.  I suggest the later.
[03:25] <Vik> vox754: sweet
[03:25] <soweto76> pabst, lspci will give you the exact model, then search for that in the forums.  You may get lucky like I and find a script that sets it up easily.
[03:25] <posingaspopular> c0nka: put the disk in your computer, then boot it
[03:25] <xexos> where can i get OpenGL? i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems" erros
[03:25] <doseryder> "device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors"
[03:25] <c0nka> i av
[03:25] <joe4444> c0nka, you may have to set your BIOS to boot the CD-ROM before the hard drive
[03:25] <gard> c0nka ... bruenig answered you .. scroll up and se ...
[03:25] <Aiwuu> joe444 6.10
[03:26] <c0nka> but all it comes up is the program
[03:26] <c0nka> s
[03:26] <joe4444> Aiwuu, isn't that edgy?
[03:26] <Aiwuu> is edgy ><
[03:26] <[H] 3b0R> hello im running edgy eft on an hp compaq nx6325 here the wireless network is etremly slow, im using the windows driver with the fwcutter thingy, anyone got sny tip?
[03:26] <[Nige] > !nvidia
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <doseryder> whats device string? (can someone translate it into english)
[03:26] <pabst> soweto76: I did, script ran great, card won't talk to the router... doesnt see any routers
[03:26] <joe4444> Aiwuu, so why do you need to upgrade?
[03:26] <vox754> doseryder: I tell you, go to the forums and search for dual boot, and also you should give people the "sudo fdisk -l" info.
[03:26] <c0nka> i have but all it comes up is the program eg firefox
[03:27] <gard> c0nka ... if you are still not sure how to go about installing ubuntu ... the process in a nutshell is ... burn  the downloaded .iso image to a CD ... or DVD as the case may be ...
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: that is weird, hmmmm.....
[03:27] <foormea> hey, anyone uses ivman here?
[03:27] <fizzmahon> i have a fresh install of ubuntu and my video card is a radeon 7500, will i benefit by installing fglrx?
[03:27] <c0nka> gard i av m8
[03:27] <joe4444> c0nka, did the cd boot into a linux desktop?
[03:27] <bruenig> c0nka, step by step by step here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[03:27] <PiNE> crimsun, yep that completely worked the sound is back! thanks for the help.
[03:27] <c0nka> nope
[03:27] <babygurlz> iii
[03:27] <genii> fizzmahon Yes. That is the same card I have
[03:27] <crimsun> PiNE: np.
[03:27] <gard> c0nka .. make sure your computer's BIOS is set to allow booting from the cd/dvd drive if a disk is present in it ... then insert the disc you burned in to the drive and then reboot ...
[03:28] <soweto76> pabst, does iwlist show anything ( man iwlist )
[03:28] <fiveFS> ok, i connect a usb hdd, and it mounts at /media/usbdisk.... but it is acting like that drive is part of my root filesystem... so data contain on that drive "fills up" my root mount
[03:28] <fiveFS> is there any way to avoid that behavior?
[03:28] <c0nka> o k
[03:28] <fizzmahon> genii, how do i install it? apt-get install fglrx?
[03:28] <greg_>  well how do you uninstall ubuntu then
[03:28] <erUSUL> fizzmahon: i do not think so the ati-radeon driver is enough for that type of card
[03:28] <mikedoty> Hi people.  I have an easy to answer question.  If I'm in a dir and do ls, it of course lists the files.  But if I type ls ????, it not only lists all dirs with a length of 4, but it lists the files of each of those dirs.
[03:28] <mikedoty> How can I tell it I just want the folder names, not the contents listed?
[03:28] <genii> !ati | fizzmahon
[03:28] <ubotu> fizzmahon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <c0nka> but do have format your comp
[03:28] <vox754> greg_: how do you uninstall XP then? you don't, simply install another Operating System.
[03:29] <joe4444> c0nka, the ubuntu cd will format as part of the installation
[03:29] <bruenig> uninstalling ubuntu would be to format the disk it is on
[03:29] <gard> c0nka ... ubuntu is one of those distros that is packaged as what is called as a Live CD ...
[03:29] <c0nka> ok cheers , fnx for the help m8
[03:29] <pabst> soweto76: No scan results :/
[03:29] <joe4444> you have the option to manually set the partitions, too
[03:29] <genii> erUSUL: The fglrx drivers add some GL support tho notyet all the 3D GL capabilities
[03:30] <fiveFS> ok, i connect a usb hdd, and it mounts at /media/usbdisk.... but it is acting like that drive is part of my root filesystem... so data contain on that drive "fills up" my root mount
[03:30] <fiveFS> is there any way to avoid that behavior?
[03:30] <bruenig> !repeat | fiveFS
[03:30] <ubotu> fiveFS: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:30] <fizzmahon> genii, do you run beryl
[03:30] <erUSUL> genii: the radeon driver in that card has 3d support (mesa gl) and superior 2d performance
[03:30] <vox754> fiveFS: why do you say that? Do you have any proof?
[03:31] <genii> fizzmahon: No, I run XFCE
[03:31] <mikedoty> Ok, I wanted ls -d ????.  Thanks me :)
[03:31] <greg_> vox754   sorry stepped away  virtualzation vmware?
[03:31] <vox754> mikedoty: maybe "man <command>" can save you time, everytime.
[03:31] <genii> erUSUL: I tried the vesa driver, stock ATI driver, radeon and fglrx and of all the fglrx worked best in my case. I have an AIW 7500
[03:32] <fiveFS> vox754: yes.... I have a 9gb hdd mounted as /.  I have an 80gb drive at /media/usbdisk.  when i tar a file onto /media/usbdisk, it decreases the capacity of / until there is no space left on the device
[03:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: ok try (\n still being new line)
[03:32] <vox754> greg_: search the ubuntuforums.org and you will see that is possible to run Windows XP inside Ubuntu through virtualization
[03:32] <fiveFS> if i cd into /media/usbdisk, and delete this 4gb tar file, i magically have 4gb free on /
[03:32] <mbac> is there an open source mathematica-like variant?
[03:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: title=Windows Vista \n rootnoverify (hd0,6) \n makeactive \n chainloader +1
[03:32] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: http://rafb.net/p/Q5dVCd55.html
[03:33] <doseryder> the report from fdisk -l
[03:34] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: I would assume \n means MAKE A NEW LINE and not take it literally eh
[03:34] <deltaray> I've been looking for a howto on how to fix vista after I installed Ubuntu on a Vista machine and used gparted instead of Vista's resizer.  But I'm having trouble finding anything.
[03:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: haha yeah :P
[03:34] <Orfeous> need some help getting my NFS to work :) i cant mount my exports :P i dont know why. nfs-server is configured correct and also the exports. but when i mount it says something like this.. "mount: djuret:/mnt/wd: can't read superblock"
[03:34] <deltaray> Could I get some help please?
[03:34] <vox754> fiveFS: wow, small / I guess. mmm... the USB drive is FAT32 and so you cannot have a 4 GB file...
[03:34] <Madpilot> deltaray, just nuke Virusta. Problem solved.
[03:35] <Arafangion> vox754: IFS doesn't work on my usb drives :(
[03:35] <deltaray> Madpilot, Well, its not an option, its for someone else.
[03:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Orfeous: I had the same issue, I just did something with IPs and it worked out
[03:35] <deltaray> If it was my machine, then sure.
[03:35] <joe4444> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" will turn my fresh Xubuntu Edgy install into Ubuntu Edgy, as if i installed from the Ubuntu Edgy Live CD, right?
[03:35] <fiveFS> vox754: actually its ext3 ... and i figured it out i think.  i just need to mount /dev/sda1 as a dir.
[03:35] <mbac> deltaray, i think it's a lost cause
[03:35] <vox754> fiveFS: congrats
[03:36] <vox754> Arafangion: you mean your USB drives are ext3, I think they are standarized as FAT32, and also single partitioned.
[03:36] <genii> Besides ekiga what voip softphone would be recommended?
[03:36] <xexos> Where can i get OpenGl ?????
[03:36] <soweto76> joe4444, you might check that with #xubuntu
[03:36] <Arafangion> vox754: I have a 40GB usb drive which I sometimes format as ext3, depending on what I need.
[03:36] <mbac> if you resize a partition table without first resizing the filesystem inside of it, you're pretty much destroying the filesystem
[03:36] <joe4444> soweto76, thanks
[03:36] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, hmm.. ??
[03:36] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: this basically means changing root to rootnoverify and removing the line "savedefault"
[03:37] <vox754> xexos: I think it comes installed by default so you may have another problem try "aptitude search opengl"
[03:37] <genii> (and not skype)
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: Yeah, that's what a guide says (refuses to use Vista)
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: Plus I remember having that problem, as I did the RC thing and beta thing, etc etc
[03:37] <deltaray> mbac, What no, a guy I know at work said he did it and there is some howto somewhere about how to get it back.
[03:38] <xexos> vox754: i have "NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver" installed, but i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems" errors
[03:38] <epoxy> hello all
[03:38] <jeeves__> can anyone help me with SecondLife?
[03:38] <epoxy> hey i just started using ubuntu and noticed their app depository is a little behind... very behind in some cases.  is there another mirror or something that stays more current?
[03:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Alpha client for linux is the only way, wine doesn't seem to be fond of it...
[03:38] <derboxen> xeros: is that for beryl? or just a gernal error?
[03:39] <mbac> deltaray, i guess i'm not understanding what you mean by get it back
[03:39] <doseryder> I'll give that a try and I'll reboot.  brb in 2 mins.  thx again for being so patient :>  Speaking of which, vista messed up my grub when i installed it then i fixed grub and now that its a weekend I was thinking of putting it back on my list (grub) brb
[03:39] <vox754> xexos: try that line of aptitude I gave you, seems like a library missing
[03:39] <mbac> does vista not work anymore at all now that ubuntu's installed?
[03:39] <derboxen> i dualboot ubuntu/vista
[03:39] <xexos> vox754: ok, ill try that
[03:39] <derboxen> it works fine
[03:39] <derboxen> grub as the bootloader
[03:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> For some reason
[03:39] <Ax3> ?help
[03:39] <jeeves__> Biscuitian_warhe:  good, you're still in here.  join #jeeves and I'll paste the output to read.
[03:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I have The Vista bootloader booting XP
[03:39] <vox754> mbac: remember that Vista is still fresh stuff, expect the unexpected
[03:39] <epoxy> ex... like gaim is still on beta 3.1.. that came out a while ago!
[03:40] <xexos> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <deltaray> mbac, Well, right now I can't boot into it.  It starts to boot, but then just stalls. I need to fix the ntfs filesystem.
[03:40] <soweto76> Ax3, ask a question!
[03:40] <xexos> vox754: i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9576/
[03:40] <Ax3> heh im good for now
[03:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Vista is so behind Ubuntu in reality, if you ask me. Doesn't UAP look a lot like gksu(do), or Aero like Beryl? :P
[03:41] <cheeseboy> how do i add database to msql?
[03:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And SMP support, that's been in Linux since I dunno when
[03:41] <cjlowe> hi all, quick noobish question (I really wish I just had an answer to this) I'm using rsync and want to actually *sync* both directories - changes copied to both sides - and can't seem to find syntax to do it, or maybe rsync can only sync one side? help! :)
[03:41] <Falstius> Biscuitian_Warhe: luckily, gksudo does not look like UAP (which sucks)
[03:41] <mbac> deltaray, sounds like a disaster.  i'm not touching it with a 10 foot pole ;)
[03:41] <vox754> I booted through Rescue mode, how do I open another terminal?, Ctrl+Alt+Fx gives me nothing
[03:41] <genii> cheeseboy "man mysqladmin" is very informative
[03:41] <atamir> Puede alguien recomendarme algunos buenos textos para profundizar en linux?
[03:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Falstius: Sorry didn't get that, my over protective gksu (xD) wouldn't let me get your message
[03:41] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, for mysql, you want to use mysqladmin I think
[03:42] <vox754> xexos: sorry, can't view that right now...
[03:42] <deltaray> mbac, Well, I have read that you can try to use the Vista disk to repair the installation, but I can't boot to my Vista disk.
[03:42] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, for mysql, you want to use mysqladmin createdb somedatabase or something like that
[03:42] <cheeseboy> cjow, i have msq-admin
[03:42] <cheeseboy> but dont know how to use it?
[03:42] <[H] 3b0R> hello im running edgy eft on an hp compaq nx6325 here the wireless network is etremly slow, im using the windows driver with the fwcutter thingy, anyone got sny tip?
[03:42] <genii> cheeseboy Also remember that you want to create the database as either the user mysql or another user (not root) which is authorised to make and use that database
[03:43] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, try running it wih --help at the end
[03:43] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, it should tell you how to do it
[03:43] <vox754> atamir: buy whatever book you find in your bookstore, make sure it is big and heavy.
[03:43] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, or just set up phpmyadmin and point-and-click :)
[03:43] <cheeseboy> huh?
[03:43] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, how to solve it??
[03:44] <cjlowe> cheeseboy, are you talking about mysql or mssql?
[03:44] <genii> cheeseboy phpmyadmin is a web-based interface to mysql databases. You use your web browser to make or alter databases etc
[03:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Orfeous: Did you follow a guide?
[03:44] <ClarKent> Is ubuntu like gentoo, where I only have to install one distro and run an update every once in a while?
[03:45] <vox754> does anybody know how to start another console if I already booted on a rescue mode, single user, no X?
[03:45] <vox754> ClarKent: Yes Superman.
[03:45] <cheeseboy> i need mysql for mythtv
[03:45] <cjlowe> vox754, does alt-f2 give you that?
[03:45] <erUSUL> vox754: crtl + Fn where n=1:6
[03:45] <atomiku> okay
[03:45] <erUSUL> vox754: or install and use screen
[03:45] <atomiku> im copying all my files over using rsync
[03:45] <ClarKent> Nice! What's do I run in my comman console?
[03:46] <[Nige] > which is the better kernal for core 2 cpus? SMP or 686?
[03:46] <atomiku> but
[03:46] <vox754> cjlowe: NO. It gives me a blank screen, blinking cursor, no login.
[03:46] <genii> ClarKent: Mostly you will want to run update to packages. Perhaps once a month or so to run upgrade to packages. To upgrade from a major dist to the next major dist is also possible with dist-upgrade
[03:46] <atomiku> im getting alot of this: skipping non-regular file "usr/lib/libsoundserver_idl.so.1"
[03:46] <atomiku> is that bad?
[03:46] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, yes.. but it isnt so hard to setup :)
[03:46] <cjlowe> vox754, damn... i think you want to use getty to set it up but cant help you with that right now :(
[03:46] <fizzmahon> hey guys just installed fglrx and my X wont start, says cant find any monitors and gives a corrupt screen
[03:46] <Orfeous> done it many times without problems until now in ubuntu.
[03:47] <ClarKent> Thanks genii
[03:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Orfeous: Yeah, I tried a guide set by step, it didn't work, took forever to mount, so I just figured out what my computer to be using it was
[03:47] <[Nige] > fizzmahon, i think ati's driver support is getting worse :(
[03:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> set it to that ip
[03:47] <genii> ClarKent: np
[03:47] <vox754> erUSUL: I have the normal installation, it works fine. I just booted in rescue mode to try my text-based abilities.
[03:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> and then mounted it
[03:47] <luke_> Hello. :P
[03:47] <szkud> any hope for radeon x1600 series working in ubuntu?
[03:47] <fizzmahon> [Nige] : that sucks
[03:48] <AsusM2N-MX> mbac: /quit
[03:48] <Aiwuu> how i can change my keyboard model (in console)
[03:48] <genii> fizzmahon: To get back a working X, edit then the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to restore the vesa driver.
[03:48] <luke_> Does anyone here have ubuntu dual booted with there macbook?
[03:48] <vox754> cjlowe: I just booted in rescue mode to try my text-based abilities. I'm chating with irssi, and I would like another console to do stuff.
[03:48] <Aiwuu> like setxkbmap bla bla bla
[03:48] <Aiwuu> ?
[03:48] <rendo> !workgroups
[03:48] <rendo> !workgroup
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workgroups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workgroup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <cheeseboy> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'%' to database 'mythconverg'
[03:48] <cheeseboy> QSqlQuery::exec: database not open
[03:48] <cheeseboy> help
[03:48] <fizzmahon> anyone can help me fix the "no monitors found" error from fglrx install
[03:48] <rendo> Anyone know how to switch between desktop work groups?
[03:48] <linuxyouser> my ubuntu 6.06 cd stalls oin my new pc any help?
[03:48] <rendo> Try the live disc linuxyouser
[03:49] <linuxyouser> 6.06 is only one cd
[03:49] <luke_> Is anyone running on a macbook?
[03:49] <linuxyouser> install/live cd
[03:49] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: hey
[03:49] <vox754> linuxyouser: do a check of the CD.
[03:49] <linuxyouser> for defects?
[03:49] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: any luck?
[03:49] <vox754> linuxyouser: YES.
[03:49] <cheeseboy> anyone?
[03:49] <rendo> Anyone know the hotkeys for switching workstations?
[03:49] <rendo> In gnome
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> rendo: ctrl-alt-arrow
[03:50] <vox754> cheeseboy: I think I got those errors too. Never really wanted to use MythTV so I removed it.
[03:50] <genii> fizzmahon: Are you now using the livecd on that same machine?
[03:50] <rendo> Thanks
[03:50] <fizzmahon> genii: nope in console with irssi
[03:50] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: same thing, err 12: "invaid device requested" "- "This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors."
[03:50] <balzac> hello
[03:51] <balzac> i've got a file with the .patch extension and it's not readable by my text editor
[03:51] <vox754> fizzmahon: I'm using irssi. Know cool tricks?
[03:51] <balzac> how do i use it?
[03:51] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: did you get a chance to take a look at my fdisk report
[03:51] <[Nige] > !apt
[03:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:51] <fizzmahon> vox754: what do you need to know
[03:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: yeah, i don't get it....
[03:51] <balzac> [Nige] , is that for me?
[03:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: sent it again (in a paste)
[03:51] <[Nige] > balzac, nope, for me
[03:52] <[Nige] > :)
[03:52] <balzac> ok
[03:52] <doseryder> which? the menu.lst or the fdisk report?
[03:52] <vox754> fizzmahon: I don't know, anything useful. How to change colors, or scroll up, view statistics, soemthing
[03:52] <genii> fizzmahon: Would it be possible to reboot to the livecd? It is more convenient then to cut and paste such things as the xorg.conf file and so on rather than from console
[03:52] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, my computer (client) has 10.10.2.20 and server has 10.10.2.1
[03:52] <luke_> Anyone using a MacBook?
[03:52] <fizzmahon> genii: ill brb in live cd
[03:52] <fizzmahon> vox754: dont know sorry
[03:52] <Jesset77> Hello!
[03:53] <Jesset77> I am new to Ubuntu
[03:53] <simmerz> whats the easiest way to see what version of a package is installed?
[03:53] <vox754> luke_: sorry Skywalker. PC here.
[03:53] <Jesset77> How can I get monitor refresh rates > 60 htz?
[03:53] <szkud> so since ubuntu and ATI are not compatible can anyone recommend a linux build that does play well with ATI?
[03:53] <luke_> vox754: I've seen guides on getting it run on a macbook but I'm a lil..what's the word.. afraid to try it. :P
[03:53] <szkud> well *my ATI
[03:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Orfeouse: set up in etc/exports to the client ip
[03:54] <vox754> Jesset77: you don't want to change the monitor refresh rate as it make damage your monitor. For LCD 60 to 75 Hz is normal.
[03:54] <Jesset77> szkud, how does it not play well with ATI? (I'm new to the convo, and I use ATI :)
[03:54] <ramza3> for opengl development, what is the package to download; I have like 100 packages listed with apt-cache search opengl
[03:54] <whieimhere> whats the best .flv player?
[03:55] <szkud> from what I'm finding online. the ATI X1600 series has no support on Debian builds a little on everything else
[03:55] <Jesset77> vox754, it's not lcd though it's CRT
[03:55] <vox754> luke_: why would you be afraid? You install and that's it. You on a PPC right?
[03:55] <ramza3> mesa?
[03:55] <Jesset77> vox754, I would like 75 htz (60 hurts my eyes :( )  and I've run 75-85 htz for year on this monitor in windows
[03:55] <luke_> vox754: PPC? I'm on a macintel. O_o
[03:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Feisty has Mactel support
[03:56] <doseryder> Biscuitian_Warhe: http://rafb.net/p/gTlmHr46.html I'm going to try that mapping thing and see if it does anything
[03:56] <Megaqwerty> can someone tell me about a program to backup my system to a DVD or two?
[03:56] <vox754> luke_: then it should be even easier, bro.
[03:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: ok
[03:56] <etalli> Hi, I am having a problem installing 6.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 1300 with 3 SCSI drives in a raid array.  I go through the install well until I got to the section where it looks for disk drives.  The thing ticks away for about 20 seconds, and then brings up a menu where I need to choose from a list, my type of drive.  I have done some research, and they are all WDE-18300 ULTRA2, made by Western Digital.  Can anyone help me in either choosi
[03:56] <szkud> luke_: you should be fine to install ubuntu on a macbook. it's a solid hardware line that's easy to support. and if it doesn't work format and switch back to OSX
[03:56] <vox754> Jesset77: can you actually notice difference? Then I guess you need to set you driver options in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:57] <skjr> jrib - just wanted to stop back to tell you that worked great - thanks again
[03:57] <jrib> skjr: np, glad it worked
[03:57] <Jesset77> vox754, yes, oh yes I can, thanks for the tip I shall try this :)
[03:57] <skjr> one last question, any idea why an update would knock out my wireless?
[03:57] <luke_> szkud: Thanks, are you running it? I've heard some bad stories with it...
[03:57] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, it just dont work.. i give up
[03:58] <Megaqwerty> skjr: maybe if wpa_supplicant was updated?
[03:58] <doseryder> Biscuitian_Warhe: heres my fdisk report in case u want to check it out for me again
[03:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Orfeous: I can try to re set it up tonight, but I need to go get some things done. i'll put up my site www.mrbiscuit.net if you wanna contact me
[03:58] <Megaqwerty> skjr: (assuming you are using wpa)
[03:58] <szkud> no, my macs are all ppc.
[03:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: ok
[03:58] <Jesset77> vox754, is that the same as "vertrefresh" by any chance?
[03:58] <Orfeous> Biscuitian_Warhe, ok, see you
[03:58] <skjr> on a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10, my wifi nic was supported and worked. After installing the big round of updates, its not even listed in networking anymore
[03:59] <vox754> Jesset77: it is, I guess. Try "man xorg.conf" for detailed info.
[03:59] <etalli> Anyone?
[03:59] <szkud> I put my money in a new PC only to find out that Ubuntu is "Linux for humans that didn't buy an ATI graphics card"
[03:59] <Megaqwerty>  skjr: get the package "network-manager-gnome"
[03:59] <fizzmahon> genii: ok im in livecd
[03:59] <Megaqwerty> it should work very easily from then on out
[03:59] <skjr> i'll try that megaqwerty - thx
[03:59] <doseryder> brb
[04:00] <Megaqwerty> skjr: you're welcome
[04:00] <kharloss> hi. i need some privileges in var/www for a local user . how can i do this ?
[04:00] <luke_> szkud: I'm reading the ubuntu macbook guide on the official wiki.. there's so many things to do.. it's daunting. =(
[04:00] <vox754> skjr: it may break with kernel updates and packages that you can compiled.
[04:00] <Madpilot> szkud, depends on the model of ATI cards. Those of us with older ATI cards (9600XT here) are OK, mostly
[04:00] <etalli> please
[04:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Gah. I need to go back to life :P
[04:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Later foolz
[04:00] <genii> fizzmahon: OK, I will try to open a private msg box. Is your nick registered on the freenode network?
[04:00] <skjr> thanks to jrib, my ATI card is working like a champ now
[04:00] <fizzmahon> genii: yes it is
[04:00] <szkud> i've got a x1600 most of the forums I've read are just hands in the air giving up
[04:01] <KyleK> hey there
[04:01] <genii> fizzmahon: OK
[04:01] <vox754> szkud: that is funny... Buy an integrated graphics then buy a more powerful one.
[04:01] <krustofski> hey! looking for the java sdk package through apt-get, any clues/pointers?
[04:01] <KyleK> I'm trying to locate the package that contains the manpages for the stdio library (like fopen, fwrite etc.), but I can't find it :/
[04:01] <KyleK> could anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:02] <jrib> !java | krustofski
[04:02] <ubotu> krustofski: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:02] <jrib> KyleK: manpages-dev
[04:02] <GionnyBoss> Im doing an Ubuntu Edgy network installation and its a lot of time that it seems it doesnt move. Is it normal? Should I just wait?
[04:02] <Jesset77> vox754, once I've modified xorg.conf, do I have to reboot the computer, or is there a simpler way to get X server to reload config?
[04:02] <skjr> Megaqwerty - got that package, but didn't seem to help
[04:02] <KyleK> thanks man
[04:02] <vox754> KyleK: try "aptitude search sun-java"
[04:02] <krustofski> thanks a bunch and a half jrib
[04:02] <Megaqwerty> skjr: right, you have to use network-manager-gnome's interface
[04:02] <skjr> jesset - ctrl-alt-backsapce
[04:02] <vox754> Jesset77: I think X server only. Reboot if you like.
[04:02] <Megaqwerty> skjr: it is much slicker
[04:03] <KyleK> vox754, actually i was looking for the C api
[04:03] <Megaqwerty> skjr: it is located in your taskbar
[04:03] <szkud> vox754: I buoght this computer last year with the hard drive partitioned in half for linux, but I'm not finding a lot of support for my hardware. I might be better off with windows. and that hurts, I'm a mac guy
[04:03] <KyleK> manpages-dev did the trick though
[04:03] <Megaqwerty> skjr: can you find it?
[04:03] <skjr> i must be missing it, because I dont see it
[04:03] <iamsam9895> My computer keeps "dying" in a sense.  The monitor goes blank and computer stops responding, anybody know what is wrong?
[04:04] <vox754> szkud: oh, well, you gotta do what you gotta do.
[04:04] <skjr> maybe i need to restart?
[04:04] <doseryder> Biscuitian_warhe: same thing, I doesn't really hurt me to re-install vista when it boils down to it b.c theres nothing in it anyways.  But it just bothers me that I could not resolve this.  But let say if i were to reinstall vista, what should i do to prepare for a new os install.  Cuz last thing it just messed up my grub
[04:04] <doseryder> It doesn't*
[04:04] <Megaqwerty> skjr: possibly...wait. Are you using gnome?
[04:04] <skjr> yes
[04:04] <szkud> are the redhat distro's better with ATI card possibly? I see ATI has .rpm's up
[04:04] <etalli> I really need to get this server up and running, and linux is my best choice (apache etc run well on it).  Plus, with the LAMP thing (which I didn't see , by the way)  Ubuntu is my first choice.  Please can someone help me.
[04:04] <etalli> Or at least say that they can't...
[04:04] <Megaqwerty> skjr: okay, then I have a better way than rebooting
[04:05] <foutrelis> etalli: I can help you set up a LAMP server :)
[04:05] <vox754> etalli: SORRY I CAN'T HELP YOU.................. aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[04:05] <Megaqwerty> skjr: Do this: Alt+F2 then type...
[04:05] <foutrelis> etalli: What exactly is your issue?
[04:05] <deafboy> my buddy's hotkeys control the wrong slider in alsa config (headphones) and he has no "master" available, does anyone konw what might cause this?
[04:05] <Megaqwerty> skjr: nm-applet --sm-disable
[04:06] <vox754> doseryder: seems like you need to experiment, probably install many times until you know how to work it out.
[04:06] <etalli> Copied from above:  I am having a problem installing 6.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 1300 with 3 SCSI drives in a raid array.  I go through the install well until I got to the section where it looks for disk drives.  The thing ticks away for about 20 seconds, and then brings up a menu where I need to choose from a list, my type of drive.  I have done some research, and they are all WDE-18300 ULTRA2, made by Western Digital.  Can anyone help me 
[04:06] <voidmage> Anyone happen to know if there's a way to run a script after networkmanager connects to network X?
[04:07] <Megaqwerty> skjr: you may want to add that to your startup programs list as well. Anywho, tell me after you have run that command, a new icon should show up in the upper left hand corner of your screen. Click it once, and then click the network you want to connect to. Very simple.
[04:07] <iamsam9895> My computer keeps "dying" in a sense.  The monitor goes blank and computer stops responding, anybody know what is wrong?
[04:07] <foutrelis> etalli: Unfortunately your issue is out of my knowledge :(
[04:07] <skjr> Megaqwerty - that got it into the taskbar, but I still don't have a wifi connection to choose
[04:07] <Megaqwerty> skjr: *upper right
[04:07] <Absorto> hello! hello! uname says i'm running 2.6.17-10-generic. What version of the vanilla kernel is this based upon? all I find in kernel.org are up to rc6...
[04:07] <Megaqwerty> skjr: give it a minute or two
[04:08] <halfrabbit> anyone get xdmcp working right with xming or xwin32?
[04:08] <skjr> the only choice i have is "wired network"
[04:08] <etalli> fourtrelis:  It is out of mine too, any idea as to a starting point?
[04:08] <Vik> vox754: hey
[04:08] <vox754> Vik: hey
[04:08] <iamsam9895> Please help me!
[04:08] <vox754> Vik: I'm faster than you
[04:08] <iamsam9895> My computer keeps "dying" in a sense.  The monitor goes blank and computer stops responding, anybody know what is wrong?
[04:08] <Vik> haha
[04:08] <iamsam9895> It does it in the middle of an X session
[04:08] <JohnnyL> what mode does linux use for it's low level addressing. ANd where can I find a general tutorial for it? I want to focus on the bits dealing with 386 only stuff.
[04:08] <Megaqwerty> skjr: if it doesn't work in 1 min. , then reboot. it should work. If not, the the problem is your wifi drivers
[04:08] <Vik> ok so here is what it said (im using xp BTW)
[04:08] <xexos> o, x session, i was gonna say windows was your problem
[04:09] <iamsam9895> Ubuntu
[04:09] <iamsam9895> Also, it keeps going out of range.
[04:09] <iamsam9895> verticle sync range, that is
[04:09] <Vaatix> Alright, I've got a big problem that I need help on, if at all Possible. After a Lengthy installation of Ubuntu to my External Hard drive(Not my Primary Drive) from a Live CD on a Laptop, I was able to boot up normally. It gave me the Grub options with a list of Operating Systems, Including my Windows XP Media Center that's on my Primary Hard Drive. I wanted to use Windows without having Linux on the same computer, so I removed my Exter
[04:09] <vox754> JohnnyL: buying  a book helps, there are manuals from intel for the x86 procesors I think
[04:09] <t35t0r> i
[04:09] <t35t0r> i'm going to install gnome-light
[04:09] <voidmage> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix that?
[04:10] <iamsam9895> voidmage, me?
[04:10] <Megaqwerty> Can someone tell me about a program to backup my system to a DVD or two?
[04:10] <halfrabbit> xdmcp anyone?
[04:10] <voidmage> iamsam9895: yeah
[04:10] <voidmage> iamsam9895: tried that?
[04:10] <skjr> mega - i'm guessing it is my drivers
[04:10] <Vik> vox754: firmware helper 4879: main: 'lib/firmware/bcm43xx_micro5.firmware,  For device /class/firmware/0000:03:00.0 with driver bcm43xx
[04:10] <skjr> i was using wifi with no problems until all those updates installed
[04:11] <doseryder> vox754: experimenting is of course an integral part of learning but telling me to "install many many times until you know how to work it out" is prolly not of my interest and prolly not the best advice.
[04:11] <Vik> vox754: WTF!!
[04:11] <t35t0r> Megaqwerty, scdbackup
[04:11] <Sp3nc3> need help setting up apache2 on edgy, i think i did something wrong, it keeps giving me a 403 error on my site.
[04:11] <Megaqwerty> skjr: okay, well then I'd suggest you ask someone else or read this:
[04:11] <Megaqwerty> !wifi
[04:11] <t35t0r> Megaqwerty, it's probably not in ubuntu
[04:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:11] <foutrelis> doseryder: What is the problem?
[04:11] <t35t0r> scdbackup and sdvdbackup
[04:11] <Megaqwerty> !wireless
[04:11] <vox754> doseryder: just a suggestion, don't take it personally. I'd do if I had time. Good luck!
[04:11] <Megaqwerty> t35t0r: THANKS!
[04:11] <vox754> Vik: what?
[04:12] <Vaatix> So, anyone have any ideas...?
[04:12] <Megaqwerty> !wifi
[04:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:12] <Sp3nc3> need help setting up apache2 on edgy, i think i did something wrong, it keeps giving me a 403 error on my site.
[04:12] <JohnnyL> vox754, yes, I know I"m reading one now, but do not wish to read the whole thing.
[04:12] <Megaqwerty> there you go skjr ^^
[04:13] <Vik> vox754: yeah i put the CD in, I hit "start or install ubuntu" it starts and then hangs! gives me that error message
[04:13] <Newish> !repositories
[04:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:13] <Vaatix> Is there at least anywhere I can go to get some help with this...?
[04:13] <vox754> JohnnyL: oh. Is it good? I've seen them, but since I'm not really into circuits I don't feel reading it.
[04:13] <doseryder> foutrelis: ty for attending to my question.  Biscuitian_warhe was just trying to help me out with adding an entry in grub but unfortunately it is acting really weird.  (i've copied and pasted code for him to look over but still haven't seem to find a solution)
[04:13] <halfrabbit> anyone use xdmcp in ubuntu?
[04:13] <eck> Vaatix: you removed your external hard ddrive and then what?
[04:14] <xexos> vox754: i have "NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver" installed, but i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems" errors ,  glxinfo | grep direct
[04:14] <JohnnyL> vox754, well written, but way much information.
[04:14] <xexos>  outputs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9577/, Xorg is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9578/
[04:14] <vox754> Vik: Well seems like a problem with your Broadcom Wireless driver, or hardware. Is it a PCI card?
[04:14] <Vaatix> Then I booted up my computer, and I got "Loading Grub... Error 21"
[04:14] <vox754> xexos: sorry, I con't do much for you.
[04:14] <doseryder> foutrelis: i was hoping if i can resolve the issue w/o having to reinstall but if it boils down to it, it wouldn't hurt me to reinstall my vista b/c theres nothing on that partition anyways. But again, that would be my last choice.
[04:14] <xexos> >.<
[04:14] <eck> Vaatix: that means that it couldn't find the disk that has the grub stuff on it, including the disk with the grub menu file
[04:14] <foutrelis> doseryder: Have you kept a backup of your previous menu.list?
[04:14] <Vik> vox754: yeah, it hangs like 5 seconds into trying to install. the way i loaded the x64 was to hit use text install
[04:15] <eck> Vaatix: you installed grub onto the mbr of the primary drive
[04:15] <Vik> vox754: no, its built in
[04:15] <foutrelis> doseryder: And, can you boot into your Ubuntu installation?
[04:15] <vox754> Vik: then you need that too, as a separate i386 CD, I'm so sorry.
[04:15] <Stiu> Excuse me, i need some help. i was trying to install truetype fonts, but i did some thing wrong, now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not.
[04:15] <iamsam9895> Ubuntu isn't even using the values in my xorg.conf
[04:15] <vox754> Vaatix: you didn't finish your sentence, I think.
[04:15] <xexos> anyone want to help?
[04:15] <Vik> vox754: what?
[04:15] <eck> Vaatix: so what happens is the computer boots of the primary drive and looks for the configuration files on the external drive and then panics because it can't find it
[04:16] <Vaatix> Damn, is there anything I can do to fix it? It's a huge pain in the ass to carry around the Hard drive, since it needs to be plugged in.
[04:16] <doseryder> doseryder: yes, I fixed that part on my own.  After my vista installation it basically messed the grub but i was able to get it back.  Vista never was on the grub's menu list
[04:16] <iamsam9895> I have the proper verticle sync and horizontal refresh in my xorg.conf, but ubuntu goes out of those ranges anyways.
[04:16] <doseryder> lolz
[04:16] <doseryder> why did i msg to myself.. oops
[04:16] <Vik> vox754: need what? i can turn off wireless with a switch. maybe i should try rebooting with the switch turned off...
[04:16] <vox754> Vik: there is another i386 CD, called "alternate", it is a text-based install, just like the DVD, but not 64 bit.
[04:16] <doseryder> foutrelis: yes, I fixed that part on my own.  After my vista installation it basically messed the grub but i was able to get it back.  Vista never was on the grub's menu list
[04:16] <eck> Vaatix: you have a couple options, but what you probably want to do is use the windows tool to restore the windows bootloader on the primary drive, and then re-install grub so that it is on the mbr of the external drive
[04:16] <eck> i think that's what you intended
[04:16] <Stiu> Excuse me, i need some help. i was trying to install truetype fonts, but i did some thing wrong, now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not.
[04:17] <vox754> Vik: oh, right, try turning the switch off. Simple solutions are best.
[04:17] <iamsam9895> I might get disconnected at any time, so bear with me.
[04:17] <Sp3nc3> xexos: what card are u using?
[04:17] <foutrelis> doseryder: So the problem is Vista not appering on grub's boot list?
[04:17] <Vaatix> Where would I find the installer for Grub, and would it work off Windows?
[04:17] <Vik> vox754: ahh. i did not see that on the ubuntu site. where can i find that
[04:17] <Vaatix> Installing, that is.
[04:17] <vox754> Vik: It is there, look closely.
[04:17] <Vik> vox754: k. brb
[04:17] <eck> Vaatix: there is a grub installer for windows, i'm not sure how well it works; you can re-install grub onto the external drive with the live cd though
[04:18] <Vaatix> It has a separate installer for Grub?
[04:18] <eck> it's a program on the live cd
[04:18] <Sp3nc3> xexos: what card are u using?
[04:18] <eck> the program you want is 'grub-install'
[04:18] <Stiu> Can any1 help me? I was trying to install truetype fonts, but i did some thing wrong, now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not. what can I do, to restore them?
[04:18] <Vaatix> And by running Grub install, I'll be able to choose which drive to load it on?
[04:19] <SpudDogg> This may not be a Ubuntu specific question, but does anyone know how I go about setting up exim?
[04:19] <vox754> Vik: There are native drivers for some Broadcom chipsets, I can't give you the direct link right now, but it should not be hard to find on the internet.
[04:19] <Sp3nc3> need help setting up apache2 on edgy, i think i did something wrong, it keeps giving me a 403 error on my site.
[04:19] <Stiu> Sp3nc3: have you tried the port 8080?
[04:19] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: Did you install apache2 with synaptic/apt-get?
[04:19] <eck> Vaatix: it is easiest if you boot of the external drive into your existing install, which has grub too. Then if you ran 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb' for example, it would be put on the MBR of /dev/sdb
[04:19] <ub3r_n00b> how do i edit my source list?
[04:19] <vox754> Vik_: you phantom...
[04:20] <ub3r_n00b> i mean like open it in gedit
[04:20] <doseryder> foutrelis:  I added an entry and when i try to boot into it , it returned error 12: "invalid device requested" - "This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors. "
[04:20] <eck> Vaatix: then you can fix the bootloader on your primary device by whatever means that is done (i think the windows install cd?)
[04:20] <Sp3nc3> Stiu: the ports.conf file said it's listens to port 80
[04:20] <Jesset77> Hello, ATI X1600 guy? are you still out here?
[04:20] <Vaatix> Damn, I don't have a Windows Install CD.
[04:20] <foutrelis> ub3r_n00b: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <vox754> ub3r_n00b: you want to add repositories?
[04:20] <ub3r_n00b> im trying to install compiz
[04:20] <eck> Vaatix: you can keep grub on the primary drive if you have a FAT partition somewhere
[04:20] <vox754> Vaatix: you pirate!
[04:21] <Vaatix> But I'm actually running off the external drive right now, so I'll see what I can do.
[04:21] <Vaatix> No pirate, bought the Laptop
[04:21] <Viro> can I say something
[04:21] <t35t0r> no
[04:21] <Viro> I love ubuntu
[04:21] <Viro> :)
[04:21] <Stiu> Can any1 help me? I was trying to install truetype fonts, but i did some thing wrong, now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not. what can I do, to restore them?
[04:21] <Viro> that's all
[04:21] <ub3r_n00b> and it says i need to add a deb to the list
[04:21] <eck> awesome :-)
[04:21] <Viro> hi eck
[04:21] <vox754> Viro: can you give me money?
[04:21] <Pelo> Viro,  sucking up doesn,T work in here
[04:21] <Vaatix> Eck, an FAT Partition? On the Primary or External?
[04:21] <foutrelis> doseryder: This guide seems nice: http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html
[04:21] <shiggity> hey, sup, I moved my home directory to another partition and now I can't get log it, can anyone help?
[04:21] <Viro> Pelo, im not ;)
[04:22] <Vik_> vox754: well you know... :)
[04:22] <Viro> Im just saying it's a good distro
[04:22] <Newish> Would anyone know why the repository manager can now download http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg or http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/dists/edgy/stable/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2
[04:22] <Newish> now = not
[04:22] <vox754> Vik_: you ghosto
[04:22] <Jesset77> Someone earlier who's name starts with an S was having trouble with ATI X1600 graphics cards. I ran by a page that might help them out.....
[04:22] <dimeotane> doesn't file roller allow the compression level to be set?
[04:22] <Vik_> vox754: about 20 mins and i'll have the "alt"
[04:22] <Pelo> shiggity,  edit your fstab file to mount your home partition to the /home/user mount point
[04:22] <shiggity> Pelo did that
[04:22] <iamsam9895> I'm back.
[04:22] <shiggity> Pelo: wait, /home/user or just /home
[04:22] <iamsam9895> Could you guys still get my messages after I went out of range?
[04:23] <doseryder> foutrelis: I don't know if its worth mentioning, yes i'm able to boot into my ubuntu partition and in the grub its (hd0,4) which is expected b/c its sda5 but the WEIRDEST THING is when i try to check out in grub prompt by doing "find /boot/grub/stage1" it returned (hd1,4)
[04:23] <Pelo> shiggity,  good question, let me check
[04:23] <eck> Vaatix: well, the problem is that grub is installed on the primary drive but needs files on the external drive to complete the boot process, so you want a fat partition on the primary drive if you don't want to lug the external drive around with you
[04:23] <vox754> iamsam9895: NO.
[04:23] <Jesset77> vox754, so it turns out neither horiz nor vert refresh exactly equals the "hertz" setting. I tried a few and then my monitor announced to me "out of range, please use this range.. blah blah blah".. so I did. now all works swell. :)
[04:23] <CUBeR64> I went to the Java website, downloaded Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_11 which is the latest, and then i installed FrostWire (its like LimeWire) it installed fine, when i try to launch it nothing happens. I'm thinking this is a problem relating to Java but i'm not sure, can anyone help?
[04:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> doseryder: See the Vista MBR installs over grub, why it messes up. I really dunno what to do for you
[04:23] <Pelo> shiggity,  on mine it just mounted to /home
[04:24] <vox754> Jesset77: congratulations... is there any money for me involved?
[04:24] <iamsam9895> Not wireless range, vox754
[04:24] <Zambezi> Is there a good Howto on making your Iptables really strong? I found how to make my own firewall, but that's probably not what I'm looking for. I want strong defense for my computers inside my IPCop.
[04:24] <Stiu> Can any1 help me? I was trying too install truetype fonts, but i did sth wrong. Now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not. What should I do to restore them?
[04:24] <iamsam9895> My monitor just went out of vertical sync range.
[04:24] <Vik_> vox754: so is the next one (fiesty fawn) supposed to take care of all this crap?
[04:24] <eck> Zambezi: honestly, you're best off just using a router
[04:24] <Jesset77> vox754, I'm letting you know, thus the proper answer is "neither horiz nor vert matches 'hertz' n00b, go read the spec for your monitor and match that"
[04:24] <shiggity> Pelo: ok, maybe I need to move the folders around in the partition
[04:24] <vox754> Vik_: what crap? It is all good. Somethings just need twiking.
[04:25] <Zambezi> eck, I use IPCop as a router.
[04:25] <Cryoniq> Anyone got any info about what/how Feisty Fawn will be?
[04:25] <eck> that being said, this was the iptables howto i found most helpful http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[04:25] <Cryoniq> !Feisty
[04:25] <Vaatix> Eck, I intend the keep the laptop a main-windows computer for the rest of the people that use it, so I need a way to run it off my external drive if I just plug it in. The primary drive is made of three FAT32 Partitions to hold Windows Media Center edition.
[04:25] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:25] <posingaspopular> Cryoniq: supposed to be real good
[04:25] <chrx> hi...i had to log in using the command line by pressing control -alt-f2...the problem is that after a few commands the screen is full....is there a clear screen command...
[04:25] <eck> Zambezi: then what's the problem? it won't open any ports that you haven't initiated?
[04:25] <Zambezi> eck, But I want even stronger defense.
[04:25] <doseryder> aight, ty for taking your time with me on this anyways.  Enjoy the weekend boyz
[04:25] <doseryder> lates
[04:25] <xexos> Who wants to help me?
[04:25] <xexos> vox754: i have "NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver" installed, but i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems" errors
[04:25] <eck> Zambezi: what attack vector are you anticipating?
[04:25] <Pelo> shiggity,  when I did mine, the partition already existed when I installed ubuntu, so it was detected and automaticaly added to fstab, then I just went into fstab and changed the  mount point from  media/hd3/   to /home
[04:26] <CUBeR64> I went to the Java website, downloaded Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_11 which is the latest, and then i installed FrostWire (its like LimeWire) it installed fine, when i try to launch it nothing happens. I'm thinking this is a problem relating to Java but i'm not sure, can anyone help?
[04:26] <vox754> Jesset77: yes the hardware commands everything; that is why I told you you shouldn't modify it unless it is within ranges.
[04:26] <Stiu> Can sum1 PLEASE help me? I was trying too install truetype fonts, but i did sth wrong. Now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not. What should I do to restore them? =\
[04:26] <foutrelis> !ask | xexos
[04:26] <ubotu> xexos: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <Zambezi> eck, No, but if I opened one port and I want to secure so it just allows traffic from the service on that port.
[04:26] <xexos> i have but no one can help >.<
[04:26] <Cryoniq> I hope so.. I am more interested in what it can offer with device support and ease. Like using and installing Logitech G7 mice, file handler etc.. =)
[04:26] <vox754> xexos: I'm sorry I told you already. By the way, I like your nickname, where are you from Panama?
[04:26] <eck> Vaatix: excellent, you can put grub on the FAT partition and let grub read the configuration off of that for when you boot off the primary drive
[04:26] <Jesset77> szkud, that was him! now he quit. :P
[04:27] <skjr> question for anybody - is there a way to see what updates you've installed in Ubuntu, and possibly revert them?
[04:27] <Cryoniq> Trying to get my G7 and G15 keyboard to work as much as possible atm, but it quite some fiddling :)
[04:27] <xexos> vox754: United States
[04:27] <eck> Zambezi: why would you open a port if you just want outbound traffic on it?
[04:27] <eck> that makes no sense
[04:27] <Vaatix> Would I reinstall Grub on both Drives to do this?
[04:27] <Stiu> I was trying too install truetype fonts, but i did sth wrong. Now only ttf works, and the linux fonts do not. What should I do to restore them?
[04:27] <xexos> i think ill move to Hawaii so i can pick my own fruit
[04:28] <eck> Vaatix: you don't really need grub on the external drive, you only need it on the primary drive
[04:28] <eck> although if you put it on the external you can boot from any computer
[04:28] <Pelo> Stiu, ,  try looking for help in the forum , or just reinstall all the font packages from synaptic
[04:28] <bruenig> Stiu, how were you install the tt fonts? sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts? if so you might try removing them, sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts. If you installed them manually or some other way, i don't know.
[04:28] <bruenig> s/were/did/
[04:29] <vox754> xexos: haha. OpenGL... mm. not a clue. Remove all video drivers, keep the "vesa" driver and tell reinstall everything.
[04:29] <CUBeR64> I went to the Java website, downloaded Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_11 which is the latest, and then i installed FrostWire (its like LimeWire) it installed fine, when i try to launch it nothing happens. I'm thinking this is a problem relating to Java but i'm not sure, can anyone help?
[04:29] <Zambezi> eck, I just need to open it, but then I want to make sure it's just traffic from the service I opened the port for in the beginning.
[04:29] <Vaatix> Alright. So I install it in the Boot Partition of my Primary drive, the one that has Windows, and it will load the Grub screen by itself?
[04:29] <bruenig> I get tired of all the frostwire problems
[04:29] <Sp3nc3> anyway to remove apache server on edgy?? i've tried apt-get remove apache2 and nothing really happened.. try to remove it so i can get the original conf file to start with.
[04:29] <Stiu> bruenig:  no, i did an another method, cause i didnt remembered that msttcorefontes >.<
[04:29] <Flannel> CUBeR64: you probably have a java issue.  Try removing that one and installing the java from the repositories
[04:29] <Pelo> bruenig,  which one are you getting annoyed by atm ?
[04:29] <Cryoniq> Which one is actually best to use mounting-read/writing NTFS drives? Synaptic or NTFS-3g?
[04:29] <AsusM2N-MX> how can i change the my video card conf to not use nvidia?
[04:29] <bruenig> Pelo, :)
[04:30] <Stiu> Pelo: which are the font packages?
[04:30] <eck> Zambezi: that doesn't make any sense; you open ports so people can come _in_ to your computer, outbound services can generally use any port they like (and in fact, they usually bind to port 0 which lets the kernel give them a random port for precisely that reason)
[04:30] <iamsam9895> How do I install the kde-desktop onto ubuntu?
[04:30] <vox754> CUBeR64: I used "sun-java5-jre" it works fine with the azureus.tar.gz
[04:30] <Pelo> Cryoniq,  synaptic is a package manager,  ntfs-3g is a driver package
[04:30] <bruenig> iamsam9895, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto
[04:30] <Cryoniq> urrr.. my bad!
[04:30] <foutrelis> iamsam9895: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[04:30] <iamsam9895> is it "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop"?
[04:30] <Cryoniq> I was meaning.. sec..
[04:30] <posingaspopular> iamsam9895: yea
[04:30] <bruenig> desktop*
[04:30] <eck> Zambezi: are you trying to block _outbound_ traffic?
[04:30] <xexos> vox754: i dont know if its opengl or not, i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9577/ when i do glxinfo | grep direct
[04:30] <Pelo> Stiu,  just go in menu `sustem > admin > synaptic, and do a search for fonts
[04:30] <vox754> Cryoniq: odd question, rephrase please.
[04:30] <Sp3nc3> AsusM2N-MX: You want to reconfigure xorg? try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <Pelo> bruenig,  I was serious
[04:31] <Cryoniq> Which one is actually best to use mounting-read/writing NTFS drives? Captive or NTFS-3g?
[04:31] <CUBeR64> okay, ill try both your suggestions :)
[04:31] <AsusM2N-MX> thks Sp3nc3
[04:31] <Sp3nc3> np AsusM2N-MX
[04:31] <Vik_> vox754: where are you BTW?
[04:31] <Stiu> bruenig: actually my apt-get is not finding the msttcorefonts
[04:31] <Zambezi> eck, But I specified the port in the service to just one and opened the port, but not external access.
[04:31] <bruenig> Pelo, I am not having problems with frostwire as I don't use it. I get tired of everyone else having problems with it because it clearly must suck
[04:31] <vox754> Vik_: I'm at my haus.
[04:31] <Pelo> bruenig,  ah
[04:31] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[04:31] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:31] <bruenig> Stiu, it is in multiverse
[04:31] <Sp3nc3> Stiu: Do u have multiverse on ur source.list?
[04:31] <Cryoniq> Synaptic should been captive he he.. it is kinda.. late and I am a reloaded linux newbie :)
[04:32] <secleinteer> hi, is there any way to increase the max volume in alsamixer?
[04:32] <chrx> plese is there a command to clear the screen in linux.....
[04:32] <ctothej> im trying to compile a program that needs gtk2.0, i have it installed but it is telling me that "GTK is not version >= 2.0.0.". How can I make it see 2.0 and not 1.2?
[04:32] <Pelo> CUBeR64,  to run frostwire,  go to synaptic and install the java jre 1.6 package
[04:32] <skjr> clear
[04:32] <eck> Zambezi: i don't understand why you are opening a port if you don't want external access -- that's the only reason you would open a port
[04:32] <Vik_> vox754: on the moon? mars? earth? haus?! eroupe maybe?
[04:32] <Stiu> Pelo, the synaptic is all with rectangles man.. i cant read nothing rofl
[04:32] <bruenig> chrx, you can clear the terminal with ctrl + L
[04:32] <eck> Zambezi: do you have a more specific use case?
[04:32] <CUBeR64> Pelo: kk :)
[04:32] <skjr> or just type clear
[04:33] <bruenig> skjr, clear doesn't work for me, it just makes a new line
[04:33] <Pelo> CUBeR64,  and make sure you have the latest frostwire,  the previous one had a small problem because of a minor bug in java
[04:33] <vox754> Vik_: that would be Mars
[04:33] <Stiu> Sp3nc3, bruenig:  i guess i have only brazilians repositories
[04:33] <Pelo> Stiu,   sudo apt-cache search fonts
[04:33] <Vik_> vox754: haha, im in colorado, us
[04:33] <Zambezi> eck, I'm not sure what you mean with last message.
[04:33] <bruenig> Stiu, brazillian repos are fine, you need the multiverse repos enabled though, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:33] <bruenig> !paste | Stiu
[04:33] <ubotu> Stiu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:33] <mjunx> no need for sudo, Pelo
[04:33] <Sp3nc3> Stiu: u have to add more repository, read this: this might help...http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:34] <Cryoniq> I am using captive atm, but I have to mount the drives using duso and I just cant write to the discs without going through sudo.. it is a permission thing but as usual I am not quite sure what to touch/alter to get my normal user to write to the NTFS partition :)
[04:34] <andrew5> hello everyone
[04:34] <Cryoniq> uff duso = sudo
[04:34] <chrx> i need to clear the screen while i am in recovery mode....
[04:34] <mjunx> lol, don't sweat it
[04:35] <Sp3nc3> anyway to remove apache server on edgy?? i've tried apt-get remove apache2 and nothing really happened.. try to remove it so i can get the original conf file to start with.
[04:35] <vox754> bruenig: I don't even know why people edit the sources.list, I've never needed it. I just used a menu from Administration or Synaptic and it added everything. Strange, don't you think?
[04:35] <eck> Zambezi: do you have a more specific example of what you are trying to do? i don't understand, because you are saying that you want to open the port for some reason, but then deny external access
[04:35] <vox754> Vik_: wassa?
[04:35] <skjr> anybody have any experience with ubuntu and the Intel 3945ABG WiFi?
[04:35] <andrew5> anyone here know anything about routing sound from "what you hear" to the microphone???
[04:35] <Vik_> vox754: :)
[04:35] <Pelo> Sp3nc3,  sudo apt-get uninstall , I think
[04:35] <bruenig> vox754, I have never used synaptic, I used it once or twice and didn't like it. Apt-get is so much easier and better, weird people use synaptic
[04:35] <bruenig> s/weird/weird that/
[04:35] <Cryoniq> !mount iso
[04:35] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[04:35] <Sp3nc3> Pelo: let me try
[04:36] <andrew5> anyone?
[04:36] <bruenig> !iso
[04:36] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:36] <Pelo> bruenig,  synaptic is freindly
[04:36] <eck> the command line is friendly :-)
[04:36] <bruenig> Pelo, but it is so much slower than terminal
[04:36] <genii> Cryoniq: mount -o loop /some.iso /mountpoint
[04:36] <Pelo> apt-get can be a bit overwhelming if you don't know exactly what you are looking for
[04:36] <bruenig> especially when I am just searching for something, a quick apt-cache search
[04:36] <eck> bruenig: well, at the very least, synaptic has a superior search interface to apt-cache
[04:36] <Zambezi> eck, I opened the port in the IPCop, but I didn't give external access to the port. I opened it for my torrentclient so I get more peers when I share Ubuntu.
[04:36] <brianski> anyone know a way to play .flv files (without firefox) ?
[04:36] <bruenig> eck, grep is your friend
[04:37] <brianski> !flv
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <vox754> bruenig: Yeah. First couple of weeks I opened Synaptic. But after setting the *verse repositories everything is just aptitude now. Only weird people use apt-get
[04:37] <eck> Zambezi: if you are opening it for a torrent client then you _must_ let external access, otherwise there is no point
[04:37] <Vaatix> Okay, so run the command for installing grub onto one of the partitions in my Primary Drive (Whichever one with the Boot flag), but first have windows Fix the Bootloader and then run 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb' or wherever the Primary Drive is, then whenever I boot up the computer it'll load the Grub screen with the list of Operating systems?
[04:37] <bruenig> brianski, I tried to play them in mplayer and got a bunch of errors, but it would still play.
[04:37] <foutrelis> vox754: I am not weird! :\
[04:37] <Vaatix> Errr
[04:37] <foutrelis> sniff
[04:37] <andrew5> anyone here know anything about routing sound from "what you hear" to the microphone???
[04:37] <Sp3nc3> anyone using apache2 on edgy that can give me a hand?? all files i look at on my server seem to have the 403 error.
[04:37] <eck> bruenig: afaik apt-cache cannot search the full package description
[04:37] <brianski> bruenig, i get a bunch of errors and it doesn't play :(
[04:37] <atomiku> I'm getting grub error 21, how can I fix this?
[04:37] <eck> only the first line
[04:37] <Cryoniq> genii aye.. I was hoping to find some app that offer an gui interface mounting easier :) Typing terminal commands isnt so bad, but after living with daemontools for so long one kinda miss that :P
[04:37] <bruenig> eck, pretty sure it can
[04:37] <Vaatix> Install Grub onto the Primary Drive and fix the bootloader, or...
[04:38] <AsusM2N-MX> ok b4 i thrash my new cpu, can someone confirm again that i can transfer a HDD with an ubuntu install to a completely different PC?
[04:38] <vox754> foutrelis: you are, just look at yourself on a mirror. Look at those pimples.
[04:38] <Sp3nc3> Pelo: that didn't work.. uninstall is not an option.. remove is the one i was looking for i guess.
[04:38] <Zambezi> eck, It's very hard to explain IPCop. I'm not even sure myself how it works.
[04:38] <Vaatix> Damnit I thought I had this down...
[04:38] <foutrelis> vox754: I like you too :)
[04:38] <genii> heh
[04:38] <brianski> AsusM2N-MX, usually that should be fine
[04:38] <bruenig> eck, for instance, do "apt-cache search dvdshrink" dvdshrink is nowhere in the little snippet of k9copy but it is in the bigger description, so it shows up
[04:38] <Vaatix> Zambezi, I believe IRCops are chosen in the Configuration file itself.
[04:38] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: I guess you did apt-get install apache2?
[04:38] <AsusM2N-MX> brianski: thats good to hear, shld i get any problems with video config and such??
[04:38] <Viro> http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu <--- does anyone know a alternative repository than this, because this one is out
[04:38] <eck> Zambezi: well then good luck with iptables -- from what i can tell you don't really understand how TCP works and what use cases a firewall would be good for
[04:38] <Vaatix> Of the overall server.
[04:39] <brianski> AsusM2N-MX, yes
[04:39] <Zambezi> eck, I have good connection and I want to help Ubuntu when Feisty is released. I've been talking with a guy if we both going to share it.
[04:39] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: I cannot confirm that. I would transfer data and then reintall OS.
[04:39] <brianski> you'll want to reconfigure X
[04:39] <andrew5> hello?
[04:39] <Cryoniq> I kinda feel bad.. switching over to Linux and then I am trying to make stuff like I had it in windows.. *bows head in shame*
[04:39] <bruenig> Cryoniq, as long as you don't become a wine whore
[04:39] <eck> Zambezi: the reason that you open up a port for bittorrent is to that peers can initiate transfers with you
[04:39] <Pelo> AndrewB,  we don'T know how to answer that
[04:39] <Sp3nc3> foutrelis: yes, and i think i messed up the /etc/apache2/site-enabled/000-default file.
[04:39] <Stiu> continue ppl.
[04:40] <AsusM2N-MX> vox754: what kind of problems shld i look out for?
[04:40] <foutrelis> When Feisty is released, the Internet will kneel :)
[04:40] <vox754> bruenig: what do you think of virtualization? Is it dishonorable?
[04:40] <kharloss> hi there .  this is my apache2.conf   i need to secure my apache server . all i need is to not swow my index files .
[04:40] <eck> Zambezi: if you block access on the port, then peers cannot initiate a transfer of a chunk, so you might as well have it closed
[04:40] <Zambezi> Vaatix, I opened it, but I didn't give external access which I needed when a friend had to connect to me.
[04:40] <kharloss> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=75411
[04:40] <kharloss> here
[04:40] <SnakesAndStuff> My system crashed and now synaptic package management isn't working and I can't install updates... how do I reinstall synapitc package manager?
[04:40] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: Did you edited it manually? I could give you mine :)
[04:40] <Stiu> my source.list is all rectangled rofl.
[04:40] <kharloss> what i have to modify ?
[04:40] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:40] <Cryoniq> Oh.. yeah.. only thing I have wine for is utorrent.. due to a lot of sites doesnt work with the nice linux torrent clients for some odd reason. Tracker refusing them etc.. =/
[04:40] <SnakesAndStuff> it says "Error: Opening the cache etc)
[04:40] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: hardware recognition. I guess it is best to set everything from the beginnning.
[04:40] <CUBeR64> Pelo: do you know how i can uninstall the java i downloaded from the sun websute
[04:40] <Vaatix> So just for final confirmation, run the 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdb'(Or wherever the primary drive is) and have Windows Fix the boot loader, and it'll load the Grub Screen even when my External Drive is closed?
[04:40] <CUBeR64> Pelo: website*
[04:40] <Stiu> pastebin
[04:40] <bruenig> vox754, I just don't like the people who switch over and then run everything in wine when there are better linux alternatives, like I saw someone in here trying to run nero in wine
[04:41] <SnakesAndStuff> E: Type '<device' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-multiverse.list
[04:41] <SnakesAndStuff> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[04:41] <SnakesAndStuff> That is what it says when I do that.
[04:41] <Zambezi> eck, I want to have it open, but just allow that specific traffic and not something unwelcome.
[04:41] <eck> Vaatix: you want to grub-install on the external drive and have windows fix the primary drive
[04:41] <Sp3nc3> foutrelis: would you please, thanks a million! :)
[04:41] <AsusM2N-MX> vox754: is there any boot configurations to not load any preconfigured hardware settings?
[04:41] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, pastebin the output of this command "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-multiverse.list"
[04:41] <bruenig> !paste | SnakesAndStuff
[04:41] <ubotu> SnakesAndStuff: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <Cryoniq> Otherwize I would use ktorrent a lot more under ubuntu etc :) I thought azureus would work nice but when using it, system and my mousepointer started hacking like mad.. =/
[04:41] <Pelo> CUBeR64,  installing jre 1.6 should install over , but you can try checking synaptic in the state section
[04:41] <eck> Zambezi: well if the only application that binds to that port is bit torrent you don't need to protect it, but if you want to do it as a learning excercise i guess i can understand that
[04:41] <Vaatix> Install Grub on the external drive, and have windows Fix the Bootloader seperatly?
[04:42] <brianski> eww they are splitting sources.list into multiple files?
[04:42] <SnakesAndStuff> voidmage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9581/
[04:42] <Stiu> bruenig, Pelo, my source.list is rectangled too =o
[04:42] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: I can tell you which packages it installs if you want to apt-get remove them
[04:42] <bruenig> the sources.list.d thing is actually pretty cool if done'right, you can have a list for third party and a list for trusted or whatever else
[04:42] <CUBeR64> Pelo: hmm i dont see a 1.6 :S i see a sun-java5-jre
[04:42] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: well the common ones you already know, fstab, xorg.conf, others may vary and I'm not really sure. All /etc/init.d/ scripts do things on startup. You could try it anyways.
[04:43] <eck> Zambezi: as i said before, the frozentux howto is the best i think
[04:43] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: I've never seen that file before
[04:43] <AsusM2N-MX> ok vox754
[04:43] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-multiverse.list
[04:43] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: or provide you with the default conf files if you want :)
[04:43] <vox754> Vaatix: I would do what you say, GRUB external Windows internal.
[04:43] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, then do sudo apt-get update and all should be good
[04:43] <SnakesAndStuff> for real?
[04:43] <Pelo> Stiu,  menu > system > prefts,  fonts,  change your fonts for something TTF so you can read stuff , then go to synaptic an reinstall the font packages
[04:44] <SnakesAndStuff> The system crashed during an install of eclipse
[04:44] <Vaatix> Alright Vox, I'm going to try it and hope things work.
[04:44] <Sp3nc3> foutrelis: well, all i really need is the original /etc/apache2/site-available/default file.
[04:44] <Pelo> CUBeR64,  probably because you don'T have the restricted repos enables , but 1.5 should do just fine
[04:44] <Stiu> Pelo, i already did that, thats how im reading this, but the synaptic and some things dont change
[04:44] <vox754> Vaatix: That's the spirit!
[04:44] <Vaatix> Should I install it first or fix the bootloader first?
[04:44] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: ok. Let me get that file :)
[04:44] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: didn't work
[04:44] <Sp3nc3> foutrelis: many thanks.
[04:44] <CUBeR64> Pelo: k
[04:44] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, what is the error when you do "sudo apt-get update"
[04:44] <CUBeR64> Pelo: thanks
[04:45] <Vaatix> Ooookay, I'll install first.
[04:45] <vox754> Vaatix: First always please the MS guy, then do whatever you need with Linux.
[04:45] <Pelo> Stiu,   like I try with apt get then ,  apt-cache search fonts,  then install the packages listed with  sudo apt-get install pakcage-name-here
[04:45] <bruenig> Pelo, he doesn't have the right repo enabled
[04:45] <Stiu> Pelo, but it returns hundreds of pkgs
[04:45] <Vaatix> So Fix the bootloader first, then install from the Live CD?
[04:45] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9583/
[04:46] <iamsam9895> AUGH!
[04:46] <Pelo> Stiu,   copy paste
[04:46] <iamsam9895> I have half a kde desktop!
[04:46] <giesen> n
[04:46] <Zambezi> eck, I have a look on that.
[04:46] <iamsam9895> Ubuntu interface, kde tools!
[04:46] <Viro> what does apt-get dist-upgrade do/
[04:46] <vox754> Vaatix: ja, hai, oui, si, je, yes,
[04:46] <Pelo> stiu try this then  sudo apt-get  install ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: Did you get my msg?
[04:46] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: I'm guessing it is hosed?
[04:46] <bruenig> Stiu, close synaptic and do this: echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:47] <iamsam9895> My kde desktop install got interupted and gave me half a kde desktop!
[04:47] <iamsam9895> Help.
[04:47] <Vaatix> Alrighty then, I'm off. Hopefully Windows has a repair tool inside it that'll handle things.
[04:47] <atomiku> I'm getting grub error 21, how can I fix this?
[04:47] <Pelo> iamsam9895,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <foutrelis> iamsam9895: try again: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, it doesn't look that bad. You have synaptic closed right
[04:47] <iamsam9895> I did that.
[04:47] <SnakesAndStuff> Yes
[04:47] <colbert> how do I install a Bluetooth USB Dongle in Ubuntu ??
[04:47] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: I had to hard reset during an install... I think my hard disk controller on this board is flakey honestly.
[04:47] <Sp3nc3> foutrelis: yes thanks alot!!! >3<
[04:47] <bruenig> Stiu must be gone
[04:47] <SnakesAndStuff> sometimes it doesn't see drives at bootup
[04:47] <vox754> iamsam9895: why it was interrupted?
[04:48] <iamsam9895> But my loses a signal midway.
[04:48] <iamsam9895> monito
[04:48] <iamsam9895> r
[04:48] <foutrelis> Sp3nc3: You are welcome :)
[04:48] <iamsam9895> My monitor keeps going blank and shuts off due to lack of signal
[04:48] <iamsam9895> Then computer freezes during kde install
[04:48] <vox754> iamsam9895: old monitor? bad video card?
[04:49] <iamsam9895> Nope.
[04:49] <Pelo> iamsam9895,  if I were you I would try fixing the hardware problem before continuing
[04:49] <iamsam9895> The problem is ubuntu.
[04:49] <foutrelis> :\
[04:49] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, try some clean up stuff, like sudo dpkg --configure -a and then sudo apt-get install -f
[04:49] <iamsam9895> Keeps sending bad sync rates to my monitor
[04:49] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: Thanks for the help by the way... I've been using linux on and off as small servers etc for years, but desktop linux I haven't used in about 3-4 years
[04:49] <Pelo> iamsam9895,  borked cd maybe
[04:49] <vox754> iamsam9895: I tried Kubuntu CDs first. They didn't handle my video correctly so I couldn't install. So I installed with the Ubuntu CDs instead. You can install the KDE desktop later.
[04:50] <iamsam9895> Kubuntu I was able to fix it one.
[04:50] <iamsam9895> Nope, official cd in the mail.
[04:50] <abo> ubuntu edgy update manager asks me to "Run a distribution upgrade[...] " when I try to install the latest updates, what's the problem
[04:50] <SnakesAndStuff> bruenig: Neg on both of those, wouldn't run
[04:50] <abo> also I see that there are many backports in this update!!
[04:50] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, looks bad then, something seriously wrong with dpkg
[04:51] <SnakesAndStuff> dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[04:51] <vox754> abo: you have backports enabled, hide them in your sources.list
[04:51] <SnakesAndStuff> that is the error that dpgk gives.
[04:51] <bruenig> SnakesAndStuff, you are sudoing these right
[04:51] <SnakesAndStuff> Yes
[04:51] <Akkard_> Hi
[04:51] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: that's not good
[04:51] <SnakesAndStuff> I think the hard drive controller fsked up my stuff honestly
[04:51] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: your filesystem is mounted as read only, that means you had an error
[04:51] <SnakesAndStuff> when I killed it and brought it back up it wouldn't see my SATA drive.
[04:51] <Akkard_> I'll find out
[04:52] <voidmage> what i would try is rebooting to recovery mode and fscking
[04:52] <t35t0r> how do i change the icon size in gnome
[04:52] <voidmage> anyone else think that's a good idea?
[04:52] <atomiku> I'm getting grub error 21, how can I fix this?
[04:52] <SnakesAndStuff> voidmage: This install is only 2 days old... Honestly I might just reinstall from CD...
[04:52] <SnakesAndStuff> voidmage: Think that might give me a better chance of cleaning things up?
[04:52] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: if you've really screwed things up that's probably a better idea
[04:52] <t35t0r> how do i change the icon size in gnome?
[04:52] <SnakesAndStuff> I've already backed everything up on my other box.
[04:53] <vox754> voidmage: I think Linux does fsck automatically everytime there is a crash, or dirty unmounting
[04:53] <abo> vox754 this is the only backport in my /etc/apt/source.list "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"  shall I remove it?
[04:53] <voidmage> maybe then a simple reboot would fsck
[04:53] <voidmage> so i might try that
[04:53] <SnakesAndStuff> tried that
[04:53] <iamsam9895> I've managed and install with both CD's.
[04:53] <vox754> abo: well it has backports to all the packages, yes comment it out.
[04:53] <SnakesAndStuff> Anyway... Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it...
[04:53] <voidmage> hmm, well i'd either fsck in recovery mode or reinstall
[04:53] <iamsam9895> I just didn't want to have to reinstall
[04:53] <voidmage> because somehow i think you really screwed something up
[04:53] <abo> vox754, ok I'll try that, thx
[04:54] <iamsam9895> Just add the desktop.
[04:54] <SnakesAndStuff> voidmage: Probably so... it hard locked on me during a software update...
[04:54] <SnakesAndStuff> and when it booted back up it wasn't seeing the drive at all in BIOS... had to unplug everything and let it sit before it'd see it
[04:54] <voidmage> SnakesAndStuff: if you have all your home stuff backed up and know what packages you would need to reinstall
[04:54] <voidmage> honestly, a reinstall would be easier
[04:54] <foutrelis> huh?
[04:55] <cjlowe> NETSPLIT!!!
[04:55] <foutrelis> ??
[04:55] <voidmage> last time i screwed something up really bad
[04:55] <iamsam9895> ...
[04:55] <voidmage> tried fscking it in about six different recovery sessions
[04:55] <Stiu> Pelo: im back
[04:55] <voidmage> then i got it working easier by a reinstall
[04:55] <iamsam9895> I should just reinstall from kubuntu disk, shouldn't I?
[04:55] <eck> yeah, fsck is sort of hit or miss
[04:55] <Pelo> Stiu, any luck ?
[04:56] <vox754> voidmage: At least I think my machine does a fsck every 30 mounts, it says so on startup.
[04:56] <Stiu> Pelo i guess i booted up the mutiverse, but it still does not find any msttcorefonts
[04:56] <AsusM2N-MX> what are modules ?
[04:56] <voidmage> vox754: yeah, default settings are fsck eveyr 30 mounts
[04:56] <t35t0r> changing the gnome icon size is in the most unintuitive location , preferences -> file management
[04:56] <voidmage> AsusM2N-MX: modules are the linux equivalent of windows drivers, or something like that
[04:56] <eck> a fsck every 30 boots is _way_ too much :-\
[04:56] <voidmage> eck: i agree
[04:56] <voidmage> but again, it's default
[04:56] <voidmage> and i haven't figured out how to change it
[04:56] <voidmage> :P
[04:57] <c0nv1ct> you reboot too much :P
[04:57] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: can i remove them all and add them back later?
[04:57] <Pelo> Stiu,  that was bruenig's idea,  mine was  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: they can be loaded, which makes them practical.
[04:57] <AsusM2N-MX> is vox754 a bot?
[04:57] <eck> i think you use fsck
[04:57] <Stiu> Pelo, ok leeme try
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> eck: Not if you only boot once every week or two :)
[04:57] <eck> i turned it off, let me see
[04:57] <eck> tonyyarusso: still way too often
[04:57] <voidmage> AsusM2N-MX: that's probably not a good idea
[04:57] <user01> do i have to worry about that daylight savings thing on ubuntu?
[04:57] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: I am a bot. You can browse my brain if you open my skull.
[04:57] <vox754> !bot
[04:57] <jusama15> back
[04:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:57] <c0nv1ct> tonyyarusso: yeah, i think its designed for 1 boot per day, and a check once a month which is reasonable
[04:57] <eck> you should only fsck if the journal indicates something bad happened, _or_ you're in a server environment, in which case you'll fsck at every boot
[04:57] <voidmage> AsusM2N-MX: there's a module for every piece of hardware you have
[04:58] <jusama15> sorry about that lol, I did not have mirc installed so i just used an online one
[04:58] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: why is it not a good idea??
[04:58] <Stiu> Pelo should i do apt-get remove pkg be4 i do install desktop-ubuntu? or not?
[04:58] <voidmage> AsusM2N-MX: unless we're talking about different kinds of modules
[04:58] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: im planning on moving my hdd to another machine which doesnt have the same devices
[04:58] <jusama15> could someone help me get my wireless card working on ubuntu?
[04:58] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: think we're talking abt the same thing
[04:58] <Stiu> Pelo, cause its already the "latest version"
[04:58] <voidmage> AsusM2N-MX: the other box will automatically recognize everything
[04:58] <jusama15> !wireless card
[04:59] <voidmage> the other great thing is every module you'd ever need is already in the kernel
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: ahh ok, i didnt know linux autodetects
[04:59] <user01> i dont have to worry about dayligt savings time right?  this march 11?
[04:59] <Pelo> Stiu, installing the ubuntu-desktop should reinstall all the packages that come with the default install, so it whould restore your fonts
[04:59] <AsusM2N-MX> voidmage: but the ubuntu install is on the hdd im planning to move and to boot frm on the new machine
[04:59] <genii> fizzmahon You here? I ghosted
[04:59] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: I think modules are controlled by "modprobe", view the modules loaded with "lsmod", and other stuff at "/etc/modprobe.d/"
[04:59] <abo> vox754, it wored, thanks again
[04:59] <jusama15> anyone available to help?
[04:59] <vox754> abo: give me the money!
[04:59] <eck> the thing is, that on a journalling filesystem fsck will just replay the journal anyway, so if the journal doesn't indicate any anomalies why fsck?
[05:00] <Pelo> jusama15,  just ask your question if someone can they will try
[05:00] <Stiu> Pelo, but should I do an apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, and then install it, and it woul still work fine?
[05:00] <rockabillyjon> When you get a chance, How do I figure out which wifi driver my wireless pcmcia card is currently using? madwifi,ipwXXXX, etc.
[05:00] <packet_mm> there was an update released for the daylight savings time bug
[05:00] <jusama15> I have an airlink wireless USB card, but i do not know how to insall it on to ubuntu, I just installed ubuntu
[05:00] <abo> vox754, send my your credit card details, and how much you want (don't forget your full name, date of expiry and other details)
[05:00] <colbert> how do I install a Bluetooth USB Dongle in Ubuntu ??
[05:00] <AsusM2N-MX> ok brb, gonna reboot and try it out
[05:00] <Pelo> Stiu, stop asking what you should do and do what you are told,   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <abo> vox754, ;-) thx
[05:01] <Pelo> !wireless | jusama15
[05:01] <Stiu> Pelo, bash says it's already installed....
[05:01] <ubotu> jusama15: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <eck> you can use tune2fs to change the number of mounts before fsck is run
[05:01] <vox754> abo: I would be very pleased if you could donate 2 million to "ndiswrapper" project, but 100 will suffice right now.
[05:01] <user01> microsoft people are applying patches like crazy for stuff for the change his sunday do i have to worry about it on uuntu?
[05:01] <jusama15> what category would you recommend me start on?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> user01, if you are current on updates not really
[05:01] <voidmage> for daylight savings time:
[05:01] <voidmage> 
[05:01] <voidmage> zdump -f /etc/localtime |grep 2007
[05:02] <alienseer23> (11:00:59 PM) alienseer23: hello, can anyone help me get this http://www.edio21.com/prod_rc107.asp to work with lirc?
[05:02] <voidmage> it will print out anything related to 2007 for DST
[05:02] <Pelo> Stiu,  you can try removing it but then you will loose your gui,  when you reboot in cli , do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ,  make a note of it so you don'T misspell it
[05:02] <voidmage> if the dates are right you're fine
[05:02] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  heh i was just looking for that command to tell him. Heh
[05:02] <genii> fizzmahon You here? I had a disconnect and ghosted but am actually here now
[05:03] <voidmage> if you remove ubuntu-desktop you won't necessarily lose gnome
[05:03] <vox754> also "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[05:03] <jusama15> I have tried going into network settings but it did not even detect my wireless card, only found my NIC
[05:03] <voidmage> ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage for gnome stuff
[05:03] <metalhedd> does anyone know what file that drumroll noise is in that plays when gdm starts up?
[05:03] <nate_> hey guys
[05:03] <jusama15> i will need some kind of driver for it that works on linux right?
[05:04] <nate_> how do I change which audio device is to be used for playback.  there box has a usb optical output soundcard and it is installed automatically
[05:04] <Dr_willis> wireless cards can be an issue.
[05:04] <vox754> metalhedd: you should be able to find it on "sounds" or something like that, on preferences, or stuff
[05:04] <jusama15> yeah
[05:04] <vox754> nate_: there is preferences and sounds or something
[05:04] <metalhedd> Thanks!
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> metalhedd: /usr/share/sounds/question.wav
[05:05] <jusama15> i know my specific version works with linux cause i read it somehwere
[05:05] <cheeseboy> Hey I need to specify in apache to open .phtml files.. Where about's in the conf do I do this
[05:05] <Pelo> jusama15,   try looking for your card model number in the forum,  chances are you'll find a howto for it
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> cheeseboy: one sec
[05:05] <vox754> jusama15: the important thing is the "chipset", find one like Ralink, Broadcom, Atheros, Intel or one that works with ndiswrapper.
[05:05] <t35t0r> .phtml <=> .php
[05:05] <cheeseboy> tonyyarusso: thanks...
[05:06] <Flannel> cheeseboy: In php5.conf, you'll add it to the AddType
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> cheeseboy: mods-available/dir.conf:          DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
[05:06] <rockabillyjon> How do I figure out which wifi driver my wireless pcmcia card is currently using? madwifi,ipwXXXX, etc. thanks ><
[05:06] <AsusM2N-MX> whats after edgy but before feisty?
[05:06] <user01> Dr_willis: do i have to change default time zone in gnome?
[05:06] <TheDebugger> Nothing..
[05:06] <vox754> Just so you people know, the current stable version of ndiswrapper is 1.38. In the Ubuntu repositories it may go back as 1.22.
[05:07] <jusama15> ...
[05:07] <Pelo> this is getting annoying
[05:07] <Dr_willis> user01,  no idea.. as far as i know you dont need to worry about anything as long as your time zone is set properly
[05:07] <Stiu> Pelo: absolutely nothing happened, i removed and installed it and nothing happened
[05:07] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: only unstable test versions, realese candidates.
[05:07] <Flannel> cheeseboy: What tonyyarusso gave would make index.phtml work, if you need to make apache execute phtml files, you need to add it to php5.conf (in mods-enabled)
[05:07] <jusama15> anyway my model # is AWLL3026
[05:07] <Pelo> Stiu,  back up your home folder and reinstall ubuntu
[05:07] <AsusM2N-MX> ahh ok
[05:08] <cheeseboy> Flannel: Ok....... how do I install php5
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: ty
[05:08] <cheeseboy> apt-get install php5
[05:08] <cheeseboy> ?
[05:08] <Flannel> !lamp | cheeseboy
[05:08] <ubotu> cheeseboy: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:08] <Stiu> Pelo, that was what i didnt wanted to do lol, but thank  you anyway
[05:08] <Flannel> cheeseboy: follow that URL
[05:08] <Pelo> cheeseboy,  menu > system > admin > synaptic : search
[05:08] <vox754> jusama15: Just so you know, USB wireless devices are painfull, get a PCI or PC Card if you must.
[05:08] <Stiu> Pelo, cya m8.
[05:09] <Pelo> Stiu,  best of luck
[05:09] <jusama15> oh..
[05:09] <Stiu> ty
[05:09] <jusama15> is there no howto which explains how to install it?
[05:10] <alienseer23> I have this remote http://www.edio21.com/prod_rc107.asp, and this receiver http://www.edio21.com/prod_ir507.asp, the receiver shows up well in the devie database, and the embeded mouse on the remote work well, but nothing else, does anyone know how to map the rest of the buttons. or get them to work in any way?
[05:11] <Pelo> jusama15,  search here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:11] <greyspace> Hello, all. Getting a 'no space left on device' error with a new 1GB SD card. kdf shows 285+ MB free, but the card won't accept another byte. No hidden files on the card. Nothing on the forums seems applicable. Any ideas?
[05:11] <crazy_bus> in gaim does setting sounds to console beep mean that I will hear a beep from inside my computer box if I receive a message?
[05:11] <Aiwuu> its normal if my dvdrom dont read cds or dvds :S (the system stops ><)
[05:11] <jusama15> yes pelo...looking
[05:12] <jusama15> I did find this "Works fine on Dapper 6.06
[05:12] <jusama15> USB Adapter AWLL3026 Works "out of the box"
[05:12] <vox754> crazy_bus: that is not really a Ubuntu question; try it and then tell us.
[05:12] <eck> crazy_bus: i think it is handled by your DE
[05:12] <PuNter> well i just install Ubuntu.. i am newbie.. want to ask how can i install my lancard or how can i check which drivers are not installed
[05:12] <Flannel> jusama15: I'd check launchpad, actually.  Since it could be a bug
[05:13] <vox754> Aiwuu: it is not normal. I can watch DIVX AVI files from my DVD-RW drive okay.
[05:13] <cheeseboy> tonyyarusso: dir.conf does not exist.
[05:13] <cheeseboy> tonyyarusso: I found that in the apache2.conf file
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> cheeseboy: Might be a version difference - sorry
[05:13] <vox754> PuNter: PC, Laptop? PCI, PC Card, USB?
[05:13] <Pelo> PuNter,  check in menu > system > admin > hardware manager ,  if your card is listed it is installed, if not look it up in the forum
[05:14] <AsusM2N-MX> kernel 2.6.20-9 doesnt work my dapper?
[05:14] <jusama15> where is launchpad??
[05:14] <AsusM2N-MX> kernel 2.6.20-9 doesnt work with dapper?
[05:14] <PuNter> vox754: i m using Lamtop
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> jusama15: launchpad.net
[05:14] <PuNter> *laptop
[05:14] <Flannel> cheeseboy: What are you looking for?
[05:14] <mjunx> hey, what button is "Next" in the keybindings?
[05:14] <mjunx> er, keyboard button that is
[05:15] <alienseer23> to get lirc to work at boot, do I need to add it too my xorg.conf file under module, and add an input device?
[05:15] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX: current kernel for 6.10 is 2.6.17-11, so no. You should use stable versions.
[05:15] <jusama15> No products matching AWLL3026 were found.
[05:15] <PuNter> Pelo: Which Platform drivers supported Ubuntu?
[05:15] <dml> mjunx: I'm looking for that too, beryl question?
[05:15] <AsusM2N-MX> d'oh
[05:15] <mjunx> yeah, dml
[05:15] <Pelo> PuNter,  what ?
[05:15] <dml> mjunx: if you find it let me know please.
[05:15] <PuNter> From Where i can download drivers of Ubuntu?
[05:15] <mjunx> well, ctrl+alt+pgdown does something
[05:15] <PuNter> For my Hardware
[05:16] <Flannel> cheeseboy: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf is what you want.  Also, for tonyyarusso's fix, it'd be in your /apache2.conf, in the apache2 dir
[05:16] <mjunx> dml, I think it's the PgDown button
[05:16] <mjunx> because that seems to unfold the cube
[05:16] <Dr_willis> PuNter,  depends on the hardware
[05:16] <jusama15> pelo..
[05:16] <Pelo> PuNter,  you shouldn'T need special drivers,  ubuntu supports most hardware,  but if your network card doesn'T work , look up the model in the forum
[05:16] <vox754> PuNter: drivers come with the Kernel, so if your card is supported it may be already installed. Otherwise you should give details and browse the web.
[05:16] <orange_> what program/package do I need to network kubuntu with 2 xp machines + network printer
[05:16] <Aiwuu> vox754 but, it works on Windows :s
[05:16] <Dr_willis> orange_,  samba
[05:16] <Flannel> !samba | orange_
[05:16] <ubotu> orange_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:17] <orange_> samba is the only thing?:
[05:17] <c0nv1ct> pretty much
[05:17] <Dr_willis> For a good samba background Install 'sudo apt-get install  samba-doc '  and read the Books that wil/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba " and " /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/ " docs WELL worth reading. l be in ..   "
[05:17] <Pelo> later folks , I gotta go
[05:17] <c0nv1ct> unless you are sharing a printer on the linux box
[05:17] <vox754> Aiwuu: well, that is a bad thing. My DVD-RW works on WinXP and Ubuntu, so I'm happy.
[05:17] <eck> orange_: for network printer you may not have to do anything
[05:17] <Dr_willis> orange_,  samba is the linux equilivent of the 'network neighborhood' stuff.
[05:17] <iamsam9895> What is the command for setting up an ATI card?
[05:17] <eck> orange_: a lot of network printers run IPP or lpd
[05:18] <PuNter> i need this one Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
[05:18] <orange_> i tried to install the network printer just now
[05:18] <Dr_willis> or that hpdirectjet
[05:18] <orange_> I hit the scan thing and it didnt pick it up
[05:18] <mjunx> man, these keybindings are like emacs
[05:18] <eck> orange_: try nmapping the printer
[05:18] <mjunx> ctrl-shift-alt-arrow
[05:18] <orange_> how
[05:18] <vox754> PuNter: I think that is well supported by the kernel, you should have little problems, hasve yo tried a cable already.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i find the scan stuff likes to scan 127.0.0.* by default which i find odd.
[05:18] <eck> e.g. nmap -A 1.2.3.4  where you use the printer's actual ip
[05:18] <jusama15> everyone on forum says that awll3026 should automatically work
[05:18] <Dr_willis> just enter the printers ip. :)
[05:18] <jusama15> any ideas?
[05:18] <dml> mjunx:  thanks a lot
[05:19] <mjunx> no prob
[05:19] <PuNter> vox754 yes i plugged my cable
[05:19] <iamsam9895> What is the command to configure ati drivers?
[05:19] <Flannel> orange_: Read the samba stuff (that url), it's got plenty of info
[05:19] <vox754> jusama15: then what is your question?, type "ifconfig"
[05:19] <mjunx> iamsam9895, aticonfig I think
[05:19] <iamsam9895> oh yeah.
[05:19] <mike1> lo
[05:19] <iamsam9895> sudo aticonfig --initial
[05:20] <iamsam9895> err
[05:20] <eck> if the printer has ipp or lpd you can usually just use the postscript drivers and the printer's ip and be on your way :-)
[05:20] <vox754> PuNter: type ifconfig
[05:20] <Aiwuu> vox754 thanks for your help XDXDXD:P
[05:20] <jusama15> the computer does not detect the card
[05:20] <Aiwuu> i will introduce a CD XD
[05:20] <jusama15> usb card*
[05:20] <iamsam9895> ! fglrx
[05:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <linuxyouser> anyone heard of dvd roms running ubuntu distro cd's extremely slosly when booting the kernel from install cd?
[05:20] <vox754> Aiwuu: yey. Money for me.
[05:20] <orange_> alright - thanks - ill get readin on samba
[05:20] <cheeseboy> .phtml keeps popping up... it's imy php5.conf file and php is running ...
[05:20] <greyspace> Hello, all. Getting a 'no space left on device' error with a new 1GB SD card. kdf shows 285+ MB free, but the card won't accept another byte. No hidden files on the card. Nothing on the forums seems applicable. Any ideas?
[05:20] <cheeseboy> something else I should check?
[05:20] <mike1> computer is locking up - when I boot into safe mode everything is fin.  best way to figure out why it's locking up.
[05:21] <Flannel> cheeseboy: did you restart apache after changing it?
[05:21] <PuNter> vox754 now i m using Redhat.. Linux. Net Are Not Working on Ubuntu thats why i m  here to solve my problem.
[05:21] <Aiwuu> brb XD vox754 XD
[05:21] <cheeseboy> Flannel: yes
[05:21] <mjunx> greyspace, try running fsck on it
[05:21] <Flannel> cheeseboy: do php files work?
[05:21] <cheeseboy> Flannel: yes
[05:21] <Dr_willis> greyspace,  what filesystem?
[05:21] <Flannel> cheeseboy: pastebin php5.conf
[05:21] <mjunx> probably fat
[05:21] <fonsooo> hola
[05:21] <fonsooo> entre
[05:21] <fonsooo> jajajaj
[05:22] <Flannel> !es | fonsooo
[05:22] <ubotu> fonsooo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:22] <vox754> PuNter: oh, that is very good info. Try to find out which drivers are used on that Kernel and then find a way to install them on Ubuntu. They should be included, but if they don't work you may need to recompile the kernel.
[05:22] <greyspace> Dr_willis: Assuming FAT. Came right out of the package and into the reader.
[05:22] <mjunx> !jp
[05:22] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[05:22] <mjunx> wow, there is one, sweet
[05:22] <t35t0r> sweet
[05:22] <cheeseboy> Flannel: http://pastebin.ca/388580
[05:22] <t35t0r> i can see unicode!!
[05:22] <Vaatix> Alright, I'm back, this time on my Windows Installation. I can't repair the Bootloader from my Windows, is there any way to either completely remove GRUB from my Primary drive and install it on my External drive only, or would I have to Install GRUB on the Drive itself to fix things.
[05:22] <PuNter> vox754: thanks man .. i will try it later.. :)
[05:22] <t35t0r> !cn
[05:22] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:22] <arrenlex> t35t0r: Well _I_ I can see dead people! D:
[05:22] <t35t0r> i see kanji!!!!111
[05:23] <jusama15> HOW do i know what chipset my card is??
[05:23] <t35t0r> jusama15, what card
[05:23] <vox754> PuNter: sure thing.
[05:23] <arrenlex> NO NOT THE KANJI NOOO
[05:23] <t35t0r> jusama15, lspci
[05:23] <jusama15> airlink awll3026 wireless USB card
[05:23] <t35t0r> jusama15, lsusb
[05:23] <t35t0r> lshw
[05:23] <t35t0r> gtk-lshw
[05:23] <jusama15> what????
[05:23] <t35t0r> lshal
[05:23] <vox754> Vaatix: you need a WinXP, you pirate. You bought your laptop from guys wearing patches.
[05:23] <t35t0r> explore in /sys
[05:23] <t35t0r> there are tons of ways
[05:24] <jusama15> you make no sense
[05:24] <Flannel> cheeseboy: and you're sure you restarted apache after changing it?
[05:24] <jusama15> i don't understand that
[05:24] <t35t0r> and you're a noob
[05:24] <jusama15> yeah...
[05:24] <jusama15> that's why i cam here
[05:24] <cheeseboy> Flannel: yes
[05:24] <Flannel> Guys, guys, Keep it civil
[05:24] <vox754> t35t0r: the proper way to answer is like this: type "sudo lspci -v"
[05:24] <Vaatix> Vox, I bought the Laptop legit, came in the box and all preinstalled.
[05:25] <Vaatix> But obviously no disk.
[05:25] <deepbluegene> hi i just followed how-to on ubuntu forums to nstall driver for my nvidia card geforce4 mx 4000 but now X is not starting
[05:25] <deepbluegene> how i can revert back to old driver
[05:25] <Flannel> cheeseboy: I don't know what to say.  Changing the extension of the file to .php and browsing to it works, but .phtml doesnt?
[05:25] <jusama15> how do i know if this tutorial will work with my card?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_%28ZyDas_zd1211b_driver%29
[05:25] <t35t0r> lspci doesn't show usb devices
[05:25] <vox754> Vaatix: those bastards. Then you need to get a CD, if you know what I mean...
[05:26] <cheeseboy> Flannel: exactly
[05:26] <t35t0r> lsusb probably your best bet
[05:26] <cheeseboy> bazar eh.
[05:26] <eck> Vaatix: lsusb does :-)
[05:26] <Vaatix> So is there any way I can install GRUB on my Primary drive, and it'll give me the list like it does when I load when I have my drive in?
[05:26] <eck> oops, not to you vaatix
[05:26] <Flannel> cheeseboy: And you're sure you've saved the php5.conf file? (I know it sounds stupid, but... well, I know I've done it before)
[05:26] <t35t0r> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
[05:26] <eck> Vaatix: yes, you need to intall grub to a FAT partition
[05:26] <deepbluegene> i found envy debian script but do not know how to run.please help
[05:26] <cheeseboy> Flannel: 100% sure
[05:26] <mike1> laptop locking up, best way to identify why?
[05:26] <eck> Vaatix: if you put the stage 1.5 files on a FAT partition and your menu.lst you are good
[05:27] <jusama15> so any solutions on getting airlink awll3026 working on ubuntu???
[05:27] <vox754> t35t0r: I know, I wanted to say that you should give proper directions rather than just answering with command names.
[05:27] <Vaatix> Which One? There are three, or do I just choose any. Will it screw up the partition I install it in?
[05:27] <Flannel> cheeseboy: No idea then.  You might ask in #apache.  Since... yeah.  Im stumped.  When you figure it out, come back and let me know.
[05:27] <Vaatix> How would I go about doing that, Eck?
[05:27] <eck> Vaatix: no, all you need to do is copy the grub files into a directory on the FAT partition and point your grub install to it
[05:28] <eck> Vaatix: it is easiest to do from within linux
[05:28] <Vaatix> Then I'll switch into Linux and be back into you in a few minutes.
[05:28] <jusama15> so any solutions on getting airlink awll3026 working on ubuntu???
[05:28] <himawan> hi every one...i have some problem with ati ubuntu driver..., can i get some help..?
[05:29] <rada> hi, if I download installation CD would I be able to install Xwindow?
[05:29] <vox754> jusama15: other than following the links not much help. You can also try "ndiswrapper" which can import drivers from Windows and make them work on Linux.
[05:29] <deepbluegene> how to run file with deb extension from ccommand terminal?
[05:29] <Flannel> deepbluegene: dpkg -i [file] 
[05:29] <vox754> rada: YES.
[05:29] <deepbluegene> flannel:thanx
[05:29] <jusama15> will that work with the normal ubuntu interne app? like firefox?
[05:29] <jusama15> and which links?
[05:29] <Flannel> rada: Xwindow?  Yeah.  If you *just* want to install the bare Xwindow, You should get the Alternate CD, install with the "server" option, then you can use the CD to install just plain X server
[05:30] <t35t0r> for f in /sys/bus/usb/devices ; do cat $f/product; done ;
[05:30] <t35t0r> that won't work
[05:30] <jusama15> ?
[05:30] <jusama15> what wont work?
[05:30] <rada> Flannel: I don't know what bare Xwindow is. I just want to use inet, openoffice etc
[05:30] <iamsam9895> While doing the 3rd step I get the error "E: Couldn't find package libgl1-mesa-glx"
[05:30] <iamsam9895> Oops
[05:31] <Vaatix> Annnnd we're back.
[05:31] <eck> Vaatix: ok, you need to first copy /boot/grub to a FAT partition (i think it has to be a primary partition too)
[05:31] <dimeotane> whats the best package for making charts and graphs on ubuntu?
[05:31] <Flannel> rada: alright, you just want a standard installation of Ubuntu.  So yes, downloading the (Desktop or Alternate) CD will let you do that.
[05:31] <iamsam9895> Go here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-c0b2e4234d5129b5b16509e8dcf5685e001dfd1e
[05:31] <iamsam9895> While doing the 3rd step I get the error "E: Couldn't find package libgl1-mesa-glx"
[05:31] <dimeotane> "best" being user friendly
[05:31] <eck> Vaatix: you can just mount the partition and use cp -r
[05:32] <eck> or nautilus, or whatever
[05:32] <t35t0r> Poor mans lsusb: for f in /sys/bus/usb/devices/* ; do cat $f/product; done 2>&1 | grep -v "directory"
[05:32] <vox754> rada: X Window is a system that allows to view windows just like in Windows. By your description, you just install Ubuntu and you are set, Openoffice is already insatlled.
[05:32] <Vaatix> How do I do that? Is it accessible through Linux's normal GUI, or do I have to go into the terminal?
[05:32] <Vaatix> Mounting it?
[05:32] <mindframe-> anyone know about installing quake3 on 64 bit system>
[05:32] <Flannel> t35t0r: Why does a poor man need that?  when lsusb works fine and already exists?
[05:32] <vox754> rada: You can install Open Office in Windows XP too, if you just want that. Browse the web for the Open CD.
[05:33] <t35t0r> because i said so
[05:33] <dimeotane> "poor man"  hah ubuntu is free.. .now if only it came with free hardware
[05:33] <hendaus> hi
[05:33] <Luofei> how could i backup my installed package when i need reinstall my Ubuntu and than have a rapid recovery
[05:33] <Vaatix> Alright, I'm in /boot/grub with the File Browser.
[05:33] <eck> Vaatix: try something like: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/fat && sudo mount /dev/fat_device_here /mnt/fat
[05:33] <vox754> mindframe-: have you been here asking this same question before?
[05:33] <rada> vox754: ok thank you. I mean I want to install linux and use these apps
[05:33] <mindframe-> VoX, no this si the first time ive asked that question
[05:33] <himawan> please help..me..
[05:34] <rada> Flannel: you mean CD Image for desktop and laptop PCs ?
[05:34] <eck> Vaatix: then copy over the grub stuff with: sudo cp -r /boot/grub /mnt/fat
[05:34] <Flannel> rada: yeah, that's one of them.  That'll work fine
[05:34] <vox754> mindframe-: well I remember a guy asking that, and nobody answered, sorry.
[05:35] <hendaus> can anyone help thanx, i have the phone manager open and i dont know how to configure the connection it says bluetooth serial port and i put other port coz i am using usb
[05:35] <eck> Vaatix: if the device was automounted you can just use the gui
[05:35] <Vaatix> So I put sudo mkdir -p /mnt/fat && sudo mount /dev/fat_device_here /mnt/fat into the Terminal (Replacing fat_device_here with the name of the Primary Drive) and then do sudo cp -r /boot/grub /mnt/fat ?
[05:35] <hendaus> my celphone is nokia 6230
[05:35] <iamsam9895> Where can I find "libgl1-mesa-glx"?
[05:35] <Flannel> iamsam9895: in main
[05:35] <rada> vox754: I am on win now :-) I got wireless home network and I just can't connect via WEP. from win it works fine
[05:35] <iamsam9895> It wont install with apt-get.
[05:35] <Vaatix> Automounted?
[05:35] <himawan> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <Flannel> !info libgl1-mesa-glx
[05:35] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glx: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 524 kB
[05:35] <Vaatix> It doesn't show the primary drive anywhere
[05:35] <Flannel> iamsam9895: What odd things have you done to your sources.list?
[05:36] <iamsam9895> Nothing.
[05:36] <eck> Vaatix: yeah, that should mount the drive and copy the directory onto that partition
[05:36] <iamsam9895> Is this becase I'm running dapperdrake?
[05:36] <colbert> When I do this in terminal: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" I get permission denied.. can someone help ?
[05:36] <Flannel> iamsam9895: oh, lets look
[05:36] <Vaatix> Alright, here we go.
[05:36] <vox754> rada: A lot of people have that same problem, the WEP encription doesn't work, but it works without it.
[05:36] <iamsam9895> I also haven't updated in a while so...
[05:36] <Flannel> iamsam9895: that package doesn't exist in dapper.  But, also with that, nothing should depend on it in dapper.  What package are you installing?
[05:37] <costal79> don't type  this "
[05:37] <corevette> what are the best lan/multiplayer games for ubuntu?
[05:37] <mike1> my laptop is locking up (getting a sonypi error in the terminal)  where do I start looking.   sonypi seems to be a hardware function
[05:37] <iamsam9895> I'm trying to get my aticard to work properly.
[05:37] <eck> Vaatix: uh, i think the grub directory might need to be a subdirectory of a directory named 'boot', do you know how to move it?
[05:37] <Vaatix> Damnit, there are 5 items with HD in them.
[05:37] <hendaus> can anyone help thanx, i have the phone manager open and i dont know how to configure the connection it says bluetooth serial port and i put other port coz i am using usb i am  using nokia 6230
[05:37] <Vaatix> No, I don't.
[05:38] <pikeshouse88> mike1: http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[05:38] <vox754> hendaus: cellphones are not that friendly to operating systems, so no luck.
[05:38] <rada> vox754: you mean doesn't work in linux? any other encryption that works?
[05:38] <Flannel> iamsam9895: ah, the section of the HowTo you were following is for Edgy, that's why.  Lets... take alook for a dapper one on that page
[05:38] <corevette> what are the best lan/multiplayer games for ubuntu?
[05:39] <hendaus> vox754,  i have nokia suite program but from windows, can i use it with kubuntu?
[05:39] <vox754> rada: NO. It works. I'm using it. What I say, is that some people, their hardware's falut or driver, cannot use it. Who knows? WPA and WPA2 work also.
[05:39] <genii> Any recommendations besides ekiga,skype or gizmoproject for soft phone? Mostly for SIP
[05:39] <iamsam9895> Flannel: I can't find the one for dapper.
[05:39] <wapityyy> hey, anyone here can help me with an AJAX problem? nobody in #ajax is answering
[05:39] <eck> Vaatix: see if you can run nautilus as root and just do it in the gui
[05:39] <vox754> hendaus: I don't think so. That blutooth technology seems very tricky.
[05:39] <eck> e.g. gksu nautilus
[05:40] <Vaatix> What exactly is Nautilus?
[05:40] <eck> the file browser
[05:40] <Flannel> iamsam9895: xserver-xorg-driver-ati  looks to be what you want to install
[05:40] <rada> vox754: so I might get it work...
[05:40] <Vaatix> So log in as root?
[05:40] <iamsam9895> But does it work with old ATI Radeon cars?
[05:40] <Flannel> Vaatix: no.  gksu nautilus
[05:40] <Vaatix> I'm in the dev/boot/ folder as I am now.
[05:41] <Flannel> wapityyy: You should ask in ##javascript.  Or, if you want, #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:41] <wapityyy> Flannel: ok thx
[05:41] <vox754> rada: If you have the time, you could try various things with your router. You may need to configure the WEP key from the console.
[05:41] <Vaatix> gksu Nautilus? Damn I need to get a hold of what things are...
[05:41] <rbil> iamsam9895: what ATI card do you have?
[05:41] <iamsam9895> ATI Radeon 9200PRO
[05:41] <Flannel> !sudo | Vaatix
[05:41] <ubotu> Vaatix: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <eck> Vaatix: i need to go, i'll be back in about an hour if you can't find someone to finish up for you until then; but basically you need to create a folder at the root of the FAT device called /boot/grub with the grub files in it, and then manually run the grub shell and point it to the right files
[05:42] <Vaatix> So open the terminal for that?
[05:42] <eck> sorry :-\
[05:42] <Flannel> Vaatix: that would work, yeah.
[05:42] <rada> vox754: I did that because I don't know any other way how to change the WEP key.
[05:43] <iamsam9895> Flannel: Also, does that driver offer 3d support?
[05:43] <Vaatix> Okay, thanks Eck.
[05:43] <jusama15> could someone help me install ndiswrapper, i do not understand the wiki for it
[05:43] <himawan> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" ............how to resolve that...
[05:43] <Flannel> iamsam9895: I... have no idea.  Check the package description
[05:43] <vox754> jusama15: it is best to get the latest version for ndiswrapper 1.38 from SourceForge.net.
[05:43] <Vaatix> So 'sudo gksu nautilus'...?
[05:43] <bibek> !insult bibek
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insult bibek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Flannel> Vaatix: no, sudo is replaced by gksu
[05:44] <jusama15> I did get that
[05:44] <DrStein> hello, I need help configuring a Realtek RTL8029(AS) ethernet card
[05:44] <vox754> You need to compile it so "sudo aptitude install build-essential" and the headers for your kernel.
[05:44] <iamsam9895> Flannel: It doesn't say that it doesn't, but it says that the fglrx driver offer 3d support.
[05:44] <orange_> whats the cmd to find out my ip?
[05:44] <jusama15> it's in a tar.gz file which i extracted
[05:44] <Vaatix> Put 'gksu nautilus' in the terminal, right?
[05:44] <Flannel> jusama15: ndiswrapper is in the repositories (and as such, a nice package)
[05:45] <Flannel> Vaatix: yeah.
[05:45] <Flannel> Vaatix: and, be CAREFUL when doing stuff
[05:45] <vox754> jusama15: the do "sudo make" and "sudo make install", but be sure to remove everything that was installed previously, that is repositories.
[05:45] <rada> vox754: can I have another question? right know I have 6.06 Kubuntu installed on my Acer notebook. the screen resolution is only 1024x768. in windows after installing drivers I can have 1280x800. Can I get this better resolution in linux? if now I can just use Xwindow :-(
[05:45] <voidmage> vox754: I'd run make as a normal use
[05:45] <voidmage> and make install as root
[05:45] <iamsam9895> Is it possible to upgrade to Edgy?  Or does it have to be a complete reinstall?
[05:45] <wapityyy> :( nobody seems alive in javascript or ajax :( anyone here feels like helping me :D ?
[05:45] <Flannel> vox754, jusama15, if you do that, you'll lose the benefits of package management (updates)
[05:46] <Flannel> wapityyy: that's offtopic for this channel, if you want, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <dunduhnuh> hello
[05:46] <voidmage> iamsam9895: something with 'jksu update-manager'
[05:46] <arrenlex> !hi | dunduhnuh
[05:46] <Vaatix> Alright, I believe I'm in.
[05:46] <Flannel> !upgrade | iamsam9895
[05:46] <ubotu> dunduhnuh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:46] <ubotu> iamsam9895: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:46] <iamsam9895> Thanks.
[05:46] <DrStein> please, could someone help me out configuring my ethernet?
[05:46] <genii> iamsam9895: Clean install is best but it is possible to change the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list then do a dis-upgrade. Not recommended
[05:46] <arrenlex> !fixres | rada
[05:46] <ubotu> rada: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:46] <iamsam9895> I just don't want to download another disk.
[05:47] <iamsam9895> I'm fine with losing all my data.
[05:47] <Flannel> genii: that's not the preferred update method.  update-manager is recommended, as it mitigates a few issues
[05:47] <jusama15> how do i navigate in the terminal?
[05:47] <dunduhnuh> im havin an issue...yup...ive been reading and it seems as though my wireless card should work with no problem
[05:47] <Vaatix> In /root I only see a Desktop link.
[05:47] <genii> Flannel Thanks for the info :)
[05:47] <DrStein> jusama15: use lynx, or something similar
[05:48] <jusama15> ..doesn't work
[05:48] <jusama15> VOX i typed in the command you told me, what do i do next?
[05:48] <orange_> how do I start 'swat' the url isnt working (the localhost:901
[05:48] <jusama15> dr. i was trying to navigate inside the terminal
[05:48] <rada> arrenlex: cool, it looks good :-)
[05:48] <Flannel> jusama15: Install the ndiswrapper from the repositories, it's a hundred times easier.
[05:49] <jusama15> fannel but the thing is that i do not have internet
[05:49] <jusama15> not able to hook up there LAN
[05:49] <iamsam9895> Uhg, I feel like I should just get Fedora Core....
[05:49] <rada> ubuntu or kubuntu? I am new I can't see any difference ...
[05:49] <Flannel> jusama15: You have the Ubuntu CD, right?
[05:49] <jusama15> right
[05:49] <Flannel> jusama15: ndiswrapper is on that.  You need to use apt-cdrom to add the CD as a repository, and then you can grab it
[05:50] <jinxuhuang> hi hi 3 weeks of strugglying finally installing ubuntu on my cheapo comp too bad im doing this friday nite
[05:50] <DrStein> I can't get the Realtek 8029 ethernet card working, please I need help.
[05:50] <jusama15> okay..i put in the the cd rom
[05:50] <jusama15> so i open terminal
[05:50] <jusama15> sudo apt-cdrom?
[05:50] <Flannel> jusama15: "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[05:50] <skjr> anybody able to give me a hand getting an Intel 3945ABG WiFi working in 6.10?
[05:51] <Vaatix> How do I know if I'm in the Right FAT Partition, or even on my Primary drive?
[05:51] <dunduhnuh> anyone available for help?
[05:51] <genii> Aside from ekiga,skype and gizmoproject any recommendations for soft phone (preferably open-source) mostly for SIP ?
[05:51] <Flannel> jusama15: then "sudo apt-get update", then sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper... uh, I don't know  ok, so, "sudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper", and then install whatever you need
[05:51] <jinxuhuang> ubuntu is alot like dos huh
[05:51] <jusama15> hey i have a simple queston i pressed dir it showed me the directores how do i navigate into say... desktop
[05:51] <laion-gaucho> auto_save
[05:51] <Flannel> jusama15: cd Deskop
[05:52] <lisapc> hi
[05:52] <jusama15> lol my bad
[05:52] <jusama15> same as dos
[05:52] <lisapc> anyone here use vmware server? if so, how do I uninstall a virtual machine?
[05:52] <jusama15> ok how do i run a file
[05:53] <jinxuhuang> hehe i should be ok then i know a few dos command
[05:53] <jinxuhuang> Y: )
[05:53] <jusama15> FLANNEL it says couldn't find the package..
[05:53] <Flannel> jusama15: which package?
[05:53] <lisapc> can I simply delete the file?
[05:53] <jusama15> ndiswrapper
[05:54] <rbil> lisapc: if it's like vmplayer, simply deleting related vm files should get rid of a virtual machine. Unless there's some other way with the server version?
[05:54] <skjr> anybody able to give me a hand getting an Intel 3945ABG WiFi working in 6.10?
[05:54] <dunduhnuh> i have the same issue as skjr
[05:55] <skjr> damn
[05:55] <Flannel> jusama15: "ndiswrapper" isn't a package, there's ndiswrapper-common, and ndiswrapper-utils (and some others), I'm not sure what you need
[05:55] <dunduhnuh> i see that its installed...but i cant get it to connect
[05:55] <skjr> mine worked, out of the box
[05:55] <rada> if I boot to Xwindow can I be logged in automaticly somehow?
[05:55] <skjr> i used it to set stuff up\
[05:55] <jinxuhuang> wow the xubuntu booting screen is soo pretty
[05:55] <dunduhnuh> it worked on vista...but i dont want to use that stuff so i installed ubuntu 6.10 and i cant get it working
[05:55] <jusama15> i need the soft that will allow me to load the windows drivers from my wireless card
[05:55] <skjr> installed all the updates, and its gone
[05:55] <arrenlex> skjr: I think that's the ipw3945 driver, no?
[05:55] <arrenlex> skjr: You also have the binary daemon installed?
[05:55] <SpacePuppy> it's new!!! it's Improved!!
[05:55] <jusama15> for*
[05:55] <skjr> arr - not sure?
[05:56] <dunduhnuh> it should be that driver...but ive been reading that 6.10 doesnt need that driver
[05:56] <jusama15> so that it will work on UBUNTU
[05:56] <skjr> binary daemon?
[05:56] <jusama15> i installed utils
[05:57] <Flannel> rada: you can.  But it's not really a good idea.  But yeah, in the Login screen setup, you can configure that
[05:57] <lisapc> anyone here use vmware server? if so, how do I uninstall a virtual machine? when I manually try to delete the file it says permission disallowed
[05:57] <jinxuhuang> hey how can i tell what video driver is installed
[05:57] <jusama15> flannel..how do i run it?
[05:57] <arrenlex> skjr: Nevermind, I don't run ubuntu and it's different on debian. Sorry.
[05:57] <skjr> lisapc - where are your files hosted?
[05:57] <skjr> you should be able to delete them and be done with it
[05:58] <rada> Flannel: cool, thank you. just me and my gf would use my notebook
[05:58] <jusama15> I just went to package manager and istanlled the util one...HOW do i run the program??
[05:58] <Dr_willis> jinxuhuang,  what one is being 'used' you can tell by the 'Driver' lines in the xorg.conf file
[05:58] <Flannel> !ndiswrapper | jusama15
[05:58] <ubotu> jusama15: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:58] <skjr> arrenlex - sorry, I should have specified, i was assuming that was a given in the ubuntu room
[05:58] <lisapc> skjr running ubuntu from within Vista
[05:58] <jusama15> yes flannel i have looked through that
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Does Ubuntu block ports by default other than the usual ones such as 80, 21, etc. ???
[05:59] <arrenlex> skjr: Yep. Usually debian and ubuntu are close enough to be perfectly translatable. This time, it didn't turn out that way, as I only just found out. Sorry to bother you.
[06:00] <Flannel> FunnyLookinHat: Ubuntu blocks no ports by default
[06:00] <jinxuhuang> Dr_willis: can you explain more?
[06:00] <esco> so anyone to help with intel 3945 wifi not working on 6.10?
[06:00] <genii> dunduhnuh and skjr Seems some help here for that Intel wireless issue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368134 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307659
[06:00] <jinxuhuang> Dr_willis:  where is xorg?
[06:00] <esco> thanks
[06:00] <jusama15> does anyone know how i can load the AIRLINK drivers onto linux using ndiswrapper
[06:00] <skjr> i've read all those threads, they don't really help
[06:00] <Mehdi> question, i have a ubuntu box, and wanted to run a windows application on it - whats a good piece of emulation software?
[06:01] <Flannel> jusama15: well, that page has more information than I know ;)
[06:01] <skjr> wine
[06:01] <Flannel> !wine | Mehdi
[06:01] <ubotu> Mehdi: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:01] <Mehdi> ah, thats what i was looking for
[06:01] <Mehdi> ty
[06:01] <skjr> if Wine doesn't work, install VMware and run Windows
[06:01] <DrStein> Mehdi: wine, or maybe you wan't to try a virtual machine like VirtualBox
[06:01] <orange_> when i install programs - where are they stored? I want to find the readme's and stuff
[06:02] <genii> skjr After reading the entire  the 307659 thread it looks like everyone involved was able to get their cards working.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> jinxuhuang,  look in the main x configuration file - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:02] <jusama15> flannel, you can explain better
[06:02] <jusama15> you've alread told me how to begin installation
[06:02] <rbil> FunnyLookinHat: Linux only opens ports when a service is running that requires a specific port
[06:03] <jusama15> i have done it
[06:03] <rada> does VMware run on linux?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> jinxuhuang,  or use the command -->  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:03] <Dr_willis> rada,  of course.
[06:03] <skjr> genil  - i'll have another look
[06:03] <Dr_willis> the vmware homepage has several linux downloads.
[06:03] <FunnyLookinHat> !firestarter
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:03] <Dr_willis> rada,  runs better on linux i find. then it does under windowsxp
[06:03] <Flannel> jusama15: I have never used ndiswrapper, and have no idea how it works, so no.  I really can't explain better.
[06:04] <rada> Dr_willis: so I can run win under linux in VMware.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> rada,  i run windows in vmware under linux all the time...
[06:04] <DrStein> need help installing my ethernet card, please somebody help me
[06:04] <Dr_willis> rada,  i also test out all these live cd iso's with vmware
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[06:04] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:04] <jinxuhuang> Dr_willis k thx im running vesa no wonder everything is so choppy
[06:04] <jusama15> damn
[06:05] <Dr_willis> jinxuhuang,  yep.  That can be why
[06:05] <arrow__> I have a Printer hooked up with an ethernet cable to my router, does anyone know how to print to it with ubuntu?
[06:05] <rada> Dr_willis:  is VMware for linux for free?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> rada,  theres a free version.. you need to get a serial # (free) from their site
[06:05] <DrStein> rada: no, it isn't
[06:05] <fizzmahon> gcan anyone help me with fglrx
[06:06] <Dr_willis> its not GPL 'free' but theres a free personal use version
[06:06] <Dr_willis> rada,  also check out "VirtualBox" its a similer product.. then theres qemu (not as nice an interface however)
[06:06] <genii> skjr You may also find this site useful : http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[06:06] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)?
[06:06] <DrStein> rada: I do use VirtualBox, and is very nice
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Yea - i was suprised at how well VirtualBox works
[06:07] <rada> Dr_willis: cool, thank you.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> and the price is right. for myneeds
[06:07] <rada> DrStein: win runs under VirtualBox fine?
[06:08] <DrStein> rada: yes, so far
[06:08] <DrStein> rada: video, sound, eth, usb, etc
[06:08] <rada> DrStein: xp fine?
[06:08] <genii> makuseru: You mean the MTU size?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> rada,  i run windows95  - HOWEVER you may want to use somthing newer.
[06:08] <DrStein> rada: yes, it is.
[06:08] <rootrip> Last night i put my computer in hibernate and when i came back today to turn it back on it started up as if I had shutdown the computer completely.  Now when I try to turn off my computer from linux it tells me that power manager can't start until i start the dbus system.  I looked at several documentations and web sites and can't figure it out.  any helps is much appreciated
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Ive never tried XP under vmware.. snce i dont have  spare license of xp to use.
[06:09] <esco> hey thanks genii i got my wifi working...im still workin on the security part but it works with no security
[06:10] <makuseru> genii: nop
[06:10] <genii> esco Cool :)
[06:10] <makuseru> no*
[06:10] <jinxuhuang> any1 know a quick and easy unicrhome driver installation for ubuntu 6.06?
[06:10] <rada> Dr_willis & DrStein. ok and thank you. one more question. kubuntu or ubuntu? I am going to download install CD. so I would appreciate some advice..
[06:10] <Jimmey> How do I update grub's device.map?
[06:10] <fizzmahon> need some help setting up fglrx and "no screens found" error
[06:11] <jusama15> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:11] <Dr_willis> rada,  i always install Kubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop both.. so i use either one. :)
[06:11] <jturek> Dr_willis: i see virtualbox runs vista... wow
[06:11] <jusama15> this is getting so annoying
[06:11] <Dr_willis> jturek,  i dont plan on putting that to the test. :)
[06:11] <jturek> heh :O)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> jturek, i will stick with windowsME on it.
[06:11] <skjr> thanks everybody, but apparently this WiFi NIC just isn't going to work in Ubuntu
[06:11] <jturek> ehh.. u sure u want Me? heh
[06:12] <rada> Dr_willis; it's possible? hm. I don't see the difference of both
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jturek,  theolder windows are lacking some drivers needed for vmware stuff.
[06:12] <jturek> Dr_willis: r u running Etch? or Feisty?
[06:12] <jinxuhuang> actually i found a community doc
[06:12] <genii> Jimmey: Use the --recheck switch of the command grub-install. You may want to read "man grub-install" for syntax and so on
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jturek,  testing out LinuxMint2.? right now. :)
[06:12] <jinxuhuang> but mite have problems later on
[06:12] <jinxuhuang> : )
[06:13] <skjr> is there a howto on ndiswrapper?
[06:13] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)?
[06:14] <genii> skjr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:14] <esco> is there a wireless security setup tool in ubuntu? im not seeing anything to get it workin
[06:14] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  try googling for info yet?
[06:14] <makuseru> yes
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !wireless
[06:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:14] <jturek> Dr_willis: VirtualBox run better then VmwarePlayer?
[06:14] <skjr> thanks genii
[06:14] <esco> thanks ill check that site out
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jturek,  virtualbox is more like vmware server.
[06:15] <genii> skjr np
[06:15] <Dr_willis> jturek,  i always use vmware server.  not playuer.. they both seem to run about the same.. notdone anybenchmarks.
[06:15] <genii> esco There is a good debian/ubuntu document here for that: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[06:16] <FunnyMan3595> Anybody know of a way to keep one particular user from creating any network connections, except to localhost?
[06:16] <Spartacus> Does anyone here have experience with ktoons?
[06:16] <arrow__> Does anyone know what NetwarePrinting is?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> FunnyLookinHat,  i recall ages ago a way/example of doing that with some of the iptables stuff.. but never looked into it much
[06:16] <esco> ill look thru that one too thanks
[06:17] <genii> esco :)
[06:17] <rootrip> Can someone please help me with a problem what I have researched and not yet found a solution to
[06:18] <Number2> hello, im trying to install an app, it tells me that it detected a previos version installed but i have already removed it, how do i get rid of the remnants
[06:18] <genii> arrow__ Yes it is like tcp/ip printing except Netware uses IPX/SPX protocol
[06:19] <arrow__> genii: thx
[06:19] <jusama15> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:19] <genii> arrow__ np. some embedded print servers use this still but are a pain to set up since now almost all is tcp/ip
[06:19] <Number2> rootrip i would just ask you question
[06:19] <peterhd> Lost sound.  Edgy Eft.  Thoughts on tracking this down?
[06:20] <rootrip> Last night i put my computer in hibernate and when i came back today to turn it back on it started up as if I had shutdown the computer completely.  Now when I try to turn off my computer from linux it tells me that power manager can't start until i start the dbus system.  I looked at several documentations and web sites and can't figure it out.  any helps is much appreciated
[06:20] <arrow__> genii: I just seen it in the help guides and was wondering what it was.
[06:21] <genii> arrow__ Curiosity is good :)
[06:22] <BHSPitMonkey> How do you get to the "Import Photos" dialog without going to gthumb?
[06:22] <BHSPitMonkey> (Besides plugging in a camera...)
[06:22] <genii> peterhd Do you have the speaker icon at all on bottom right?
[06:23] <peterhd> genii:  yes.
[06:23] <peterhd> genii:  all the way up...
[06:23] <Jimmey> What does a recovery mode entry for grub look like?
[06:23] <genii> peterhd You may want to right-click on it, open the mixer and unmute or turn up volume on any PCM sound devices then
[06:24] <arrow__> genii: I just bought a printer that hooks directly up to the network, do you know where I can get instructions on how to print from ubuntu to it?
[06:24] <peterhd> genii: open ... ahhh the X was on PCM.  Thank you so much.   Ohhhh, music again.
[06:25] <genii> arrow__ If it is a postscript-compatible you can set it up fairly easily with cupsys as a generic postscript printer with the proper IP address and so on
[06:25] <genii> peterhd np
[06:25] <jusama15> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:25] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN)?
[06:25] <jusama15> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:25] <jusama15> what is the root username?
[06:25] <arrow__> genii: I just found something under system/administration/printer thx
[06:25] <jusama15> like what do i type in the login screen
[06:25] <genii> arrow__ You have Gnome desktop?
[06:25] <genii> arrow__ np
[06:26] <arrow__> genii: yes
[06:26] <opla_o_dodo> Is anybody know a simple way to upgrade clamav?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> jusama15,  you normally dont 'login' directly as root
[06:26] <genii> arrow__ Yes, that should work then :)
[06:26] <jusama15> yea but i need to
[06:26] <jusama15> lol
[06:26] <Dr_willis> jusama15,  you login as a user and use the various sudo related commands to do rooty things
[06:26] <opla_o_dodo> Does anybody know a simple way to upgrade clamav? please
[06:26] <jusama15> dr willis can you help with my wireless drivers?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> jusama15,  direct logging in as root is disabled as a security feature under kdm and gdm.
[06:27] <arooni> help!  i cant hear audio out of my laptop speakers!
[06:27] <Dr_willis> jusama15,  i ran wires through my ductwork.. i Scoff at wireless! *scoff* *scoff*
[06:27] <poningru> !sound | arooni
[06:27] <ubotu> arooni: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:27] <makuseru> Dr_willis: so THATS why you have to go to a another tty do login as root?
[06:27] <opla_o_dodo> Aroni did you ever hear?
[06:27] <jusama15> how do i disable that security
[06:27] <jusama15> i just need to login
[06:27] <jusama15> delete a folder logout
[06:27] <jusama15> lol
[06:27] <opla_o_dodo> arooni, did it worked?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> makuseru,   anoter tty? you mean the Console?
[06:27] <opla_o_dodo> arooni, did it work?
[06:27] <fizzmahon> anyone can help with fglrx and "no screens" error?
[06:28] <makuseru> Dr_willis: w/e ctrl+alt+f2 is
[06:28] <genii> fizzmahon Still same issue after reinstall now??
[06:28] <HaoTian> I'm attempting to install a graphire bluetooth tablet... I'm compiling the X driver for it and have come across a bug that is listed for Edgy (which I'm running)... but I don't quite understand where I'd look for the solution (as presented by Scott James Remnant)
[06:28] <fizzmahon> genii, didnt reinsall ubuntu yet
[06:28] <Jormanks> hi guys a couple of thing
[06:28] <HaoTian> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/65838 is the page i've found
[06:28] <Number2> what is the commmand to find a file?
[06:29] <makuseru> jusama15: just do "kdesu knoqueror" in terminal to be in a konqueror as root
[06:29] <genii> fizzmahon: Ah, OK :)
[06:29] <fizzmahon> genii, but yeah same "no screens" error lol
[06:29] <facugaich> Number2, find
[06:29] <esco> YES!
[06:29] <esco> thanks for the directions guy wifi now works
[06:29] <Number2> hmm
[06:29] <opla_o_dodo> Does anybody know how to upgrade clamav? please
[06:29] <facugaich> Number2, also locate I think
[06:29] <genii> esco With encryption?
[06:29] <kalorin> does anyone know about xinerama?
[06:29] <Number2> ok
[06:29] <arooni> opla_o_dodo: no :(
[06:29] <Jormanks> when i run the live cd is it supposed to catch my internet connection?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> be VERY VERY carefull with  "kdesu konqueror"   - it sucks when  you accidently trash your system
[06:29] <sarracenia88> what do you mean by upgrade clamav
[06:29] <opla_o_dodo> I've tried a lot of links aready but I'm deeply lost
[06:30] <jusama15> kdesu does not work
[06:30] <makuseru> ubuntu? kubuntu?
[06:30] <jusama15> ubuntu
[06:30] <rada> Dr_willis: and which one do you use more often? k/ubuntu?
[06:30] <genii> makuseru: ubuntu=gnome kubuntu=KDE xubuntu=xfce <-- different window managers
[06:30] <makuseru> oh, i dunno what is the gnome equivalent to kdesu
[06:30] <rada> jusama15: why ubuntu?
[06:31] <jusama15> why kubuntu?
[06:31] <makuseru> genii: i thought i was in the kubuntu, room
[06:31] <genii> makuseru: LOL this is main #ubuntu
[06:31] <Dr_willis> rada,  i use kde as my main desktop. but i use whatever program i like :) be it a gnome or kde. or other app.
[06:31] <makuseru> genii: i have alot of tabs open, i didnt check which i was in
[06:32] <Jormanks> can i mount some NTFS drives when i'm running ubutu's live CD?
[06:32] <rada> Dr_willis: I just don't know which one I should download
[06:32] <kalorin> anyone familiar with the xinerama option for X?
[06:32] <Jormanks> or only if i install ubuntu?
[06:32] <Jimmey> How can I add myself to the admins group
[06:33] <Dr_willis> rada,  either one.. dont matter. :)  get the one that you plan on using most
[06:33] <jturek> is there a gui config for Xinerama?
[06:33] <rada> Dr_willis: I am kind of new to Xwindow managers so I have no idea which one I will use more
[06:33] <jturek> or does it need to be setup by hand
[06:33] <jusama14> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:34] <sarracenia88> d
[06:34] <kalorin> jturek, no idea
[06:34] <Dr_willis> rada,  flip a coin  then. :)
[06:34] <rada> Dr_willis: I didn't even know I could have installed both
[06:34] <jusama14> how do i open file browser as root
[06:34] <kalorin> I'm looking for some info on it as wel
[06:34] <kalorin> well
[06:34] <t35t0r> sudo konqueror
[06:34] <Crichton> Hey can anyone help, I am running just a DSL gateway server, which shares the net to all my PC's on network. It also connects to VPN's. Now my problem is that the gateway PC can PING / connect to the the VPN server but the other computers on the network can not PING or connect to the VPN server ...
[06:34] <kalorin> cause when you use it to span monitors, it seems to disable direct write tot he ivdeo card
[06:34] <sbalneav> jusama14: What is your problem with ndiswrapper?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> rada,   linux is flexable.. the window managers are just applications.. :)
[06:34] <kalorin> so you can't do like directX type operations
[06:34] <opla_o_dodo> do you know a editor for .pdf file, tha allow me to highlight and put come comment?
[06:34] <jusama14> I do not know how to install my wireless card, someone told me to get ndiswrapper
[06:35] <jusama14> i got it, but i do not know how to isntall my drivers
[06:35] <opla_o_dodo> not pdfedit please
[06:35] <Jimmey> How can I copy my Ubuntu install from one partition to another, and preserve groups, and file permissions?
[06:35] <jturek> kalorin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[06:35] <t35t0r> jusama14, get the .sys and inf file from the windows drivers for that card
[06:35] <jusama14> I did
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  normally ya would use 'tar' and a lot of options i forget.. :)
[06:35] <t35t0r> jusama14, then run ndiswrapper -i file.inf
[06:35] <t35t0r> jusama14, as root
[06:35] <fizzmahon> anyone can help with fglrx and "no screens" error with radeon 7500?
[06:35] <jusama14> yeah i did all that
[06:35] <Jimmey> Dr_willis: tar?
[06:35] <vicente> hey
[06:35] <jusama14> says it's already installed..
[06:35] <jusama14> but i does not work
[06:35] <vicente> anyone here know morse code?
[06:35] <rada> Dr_willis: my gf picked up ubuntu :-) is there anything like ghost for linux?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  yes.. thats the command normally used.
[06:36] <t35t0r> jusama14, you also need to make sure lsmod | grep ndis shows that it is loaded
[06:36] <Dr_willis> rada,  mondo/mindi can backup/restore systems..
[06:36] <Dr_willis> rada,  or theres a dozenother ways...
[06:36] <t35t0r> jusama14, ndiswrapper is a kernel module that should be loaded otherwise it won't work
[06:36] <sbalneav> jusama14: Does it show up in the list of interfaces under networking?
[06:36] <jusama14> no
[06:36] <jusama14> it does not
[06:36] <t35t0r> jusama14, it doesn't show up under lsmod?
[06:36] <t35t0r> jusama14, modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:36] <jusama14> t35, how do i do all this?
[06:36] <sbalneav> is the ndiswraper module loaded?
[06:36] <MTecknology> If My router is assigning 192.168.10.* and my server is at 100, the wireless is NAT at 99 distributing 10.0.1.* addresses, how do I use \\SERVERNAME from within the NAT network?
[06:36] <t35t0r> in a terminal
[06:36] <jusama14> not under networking settings
[06:37] <rada> Dr_willis so how do you do it?
[06:37] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, I mean, I want to copy the contents (some 40GB) of /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdd1 in the hope of, at some point, making /dev/hdd1 GRUB's root, so I can format hda and keep my ubuntu install
[06:37] <jusama14> how do i load it?
[06:37] <jusama14> how do i do all this
[06:37] <genii> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:37] <sbalneav> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:37] <jusama14> k
[06:37] <jusama14> ty
[06:37] <jusama14> let me try
[06:37] <Munchkinguy> Are there any decent notetakeing (like basKet) apps for GNOME?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  and whats on hda1 now?  windows or linux?
[06:37] <Jimmey> Dr_willis: Ubuntu
[06:37] <musya3d> how do i add a new user through command line?
[06:37] <jusama14> IT SAYS not found
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  tar can do it then.. of course you may have to edit the grub configs and fstab file..
[06:38] <t35t0r> jusama14, how did you install ndiswrapper through apt-get or the add/remove programs?
[06:38] <rada> Dr_willis: is there any way I can be sure I download the CD iso right? from win?
[06:38] <Jormanks> how can i mount NTFS drives if I'm running the live cd?
[06:38] <vicente> http://pastebin.ca/388643 check out my program, suggestions are welcome
[06:38] <Dr_willis> rada,   ive never had issues with downloading them wrongly. :)
[06:38] <jusama14> well
[06:38] <Dr_willis> rada,  may want to use a download manager...
[06:38] <jusama14> i went to package manager and installed it
[06:38] <jusama14> and i experimented with apt-get
[06:39] <jusama14> that might have messed up something
[06:39] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, alright - Any idea  how I could do it? Some documentation? Also, I tried ealier by copying the files from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdd1 and edited /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.list accordingly. It booted from /dev/hdd1, but I wasn't in the admin group. Is that worth saving? Or will anything else be messed up?
[06:39] <sbalneav> jusama14: dpkg -l | grep ndiswrapper
[06:39] <Crichton> I could really use some help :P, I mean the VPN connects and the gateway PC can ping it (10.10.50.1) but when I try and ping it from any PC that the gateway shares the internet to it times out ...
[06:39] <t35t0r> well the bottom line is ndiswrapper should be automatically compiled against the ubuntu kernel
[06:39] <rada> Dr_willis: the other day I was downloading some linux cd iso file 4times. Every time I had different MD5 :-(
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  cp wont get all the permissions and stuff right.. google for the right tar command..
[06:39] <t35t0r> and installed under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/net/ndiswrapper.ko or something
[06:39] <rohinton> rada: me too!
[06:40] <aoi_band> problem:  near-fresh Edgy install, random hangs .... any idea?
[06:40] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, the permissions seemed alright, though?
[06:40] <sbalneav> jusama14: Type that at a command prompt, what does it return?
[06:40] <jusama14> let me chck
[06:40] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, just not the groups
[06:40] <t35t0r>  lib/modules/2.6.17/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  using cp on /dev/ and other special dirs is not a good idea either.
[06:40] <rada> rohinton: what did you do?
[06:40] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - i am trying to install my wireless cards and ndiswrapper - but when I do  "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it gives me:
[06:40] <denis_on_ubuntu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[06:40] <t35t0r> excellent!
[06:40] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, I mounted the partitions to /media/, and used nautilus
[06:40] <jusama14> T3 i do not see it
[06:40] <rootrip> Hello all, I have an issue.  I am using ubuntu linux and can't shutdown or restart my computer, and I don't want to just hit the power switch.  Anyone know whats wrong and how to fix it?
[06:40] <jusama14> please help me install this correctly
[06:41] <t35t0r> i can't i don't even run ubuntu ..well i could but you wouldn't understand anythin i tell you to do
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  thats really a inefficent way to do it. :)
[06:41] <jusama14> can I pm you?
[06:41] <jusama14> it will be much easier
[06:41] <t35t0r> no
[06:41] <rohinton> I have also noticed that my distro downloads have slowed considerably... :-(
[06:41] <jusama14> fuck
[06:41] <t35t0r> let's see ubuntu solve this one
[06:41] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, I don't want to wait ages while it copies, again - Is there any hope for these files? Or should I start from scratch?
[06:41] <genii> language language
[06:41] <thoreauputic> !language jusama14
[06:41] <kalorin> jturek, intersting
[06:42] <kalorin> I'm using an ATI radeon card with a DVI and VGA out and the binary drivers from ATI
[06:42] <Vaatix> Anyone have any clue how to Mount my Primary Drive? I need to be able to copy the GRUB files from /boot/grub/ to there so I don't have to keep the Drive my external drive plugged in all the time.
[06:42] <kalorin> looks like "big desktop" is the way I have to go with that
[06:42] <jusama14> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:42] <kalorin> why are fonts so flaky under X anyway?
[06:42] <t35t0r> jusama14, no it's too difficult in ubuntu
[06:42] <sbalneav> Either install it through the package manager, or, do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:42] <kalorin> 9 point mono is like 1 pixel wide, then 10 point looks like bold
[06:42] <jusama14> then what linux should i use?
[06:43] <t35t0r> jusama14, none are good for you
[06:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper - > FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[06:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> anyone have any ideas on what i should do next to finish installing the wireless card?
[06:43] <jusama14> SB i did that
[06:43] <jusama14> t3 shut the fuck up
[06:43] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, file /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[06:43] <rootrip> I can't restart or shutdown my pc in ubuntu, what do i do.  please help  :)
[06:43] <t35t0r> jusama14, ok now you went too far
[06:43] <Riddla> ne1 know why my sdcard/cfcard wont auto mount to the desktop even tho i set so via the config app?
[06:43] <jusama14> you obviously don't know how to do it yourself
[06:43] <dager> play nice
[06:43] <Madpilot> jusama14, you're not helping. Cool it.
[06:43] <jusama14> lol
[06:43] <jusama14> i know
[06:43] <sbalneav> jusama14: what does it say when you do that?
[06:44] <zero-9376> rootrip: can u get to a terminal ?
[06:44] <sbalneav> sigh
[06:44] <rootrip> yeah
[06:44] <dager> rootrip: try issuing a "sudo shutdown" ?
[06:44] <jusama14> t3 wasn't helping either
[06:44] <Riddla> does "removable drives and media" accept any settings via gconf or something?
[06:44] <jusama14> saying retarded shit
[06:44] <T3hMikey> is there some setting or app I can use that came with Ubuntu that would let me see into my XP partition?
[06:44] <jusama14> ubuntu sux use windows
[06:44] <rootrip> ok...ill try, thanks
[06:44] <t35t0r> someone quiet the potty mouth
[06:44] <jusama14> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:44] <Madpilot> jusama14, last warning: be polite, or be banned.
[06:44] <jusama14> CAN anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[06:44] <jusama14> i am
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> t35t0r i get this:
[06:44] <jusama14> tell others too
[06:44] <denis_on_ubuntu> /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[06:44] <FunnyMan3595> Aha!  Figured out the iptables commands to keep a user (guest) from connecting to anything but localhost!
[06:44] <sbalneav> jusama14: I AM trying to help you
[06:44] <Riddla> !sdcard
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <FunnyMan3595> # iptables -A OUTPUT -d localhost -j ACCEPT
[06:45] <FunnyMan3595> # iptables -A OUTPUT -m  owner --uid-owner guest -j REJECT
[06:45] <Riddla> !cfcard
[06:45] <T3hMikey> k, thanks ubotu
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, are you on x86?
[06:45] <computrius> anyone know where to get the DWL 520 rev E firmware?
[06:45] <Madpilot> jusama14, sorry - wrong target
[06:45] <rada2> Dr_willis: one more question. installation CD is enough or DVD is better?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> rada,  no need for the dvd
[06:45] <jusama14> what?
[06:45] <Vaatix> Anyone have any clue how to Mount my Primary Drive? I need to be able to copy the GRUB files from /boot/grub/ to there so I don't have to keep the Drive my external drive plugged in all the time.
[06:45] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, uname -r ?
[06:45] <sbalneav> What does it say when you do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:45] <jusama14> oh
[06:45] <FunnyMan3595> Now, how do I make those rules permanent?
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> 368 man
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> 2.6.15-28-386
[06:45] <rada2> Dr_willis: great thank you for your help. I might catch you later :-)
[06:45] <FunnyMan3595> i.e. set them up when the computer starts.
[06:45] <kalorin> jturek, ok so it says to paste some lines into my "device" section
[06:46] <musya3d> hwo do i set the users permisions?
[06:46] <kalorin> problem is that I have several device sections
[06:46] <jusama14> okay can someone help me install a WIRELESS USB CARD step by STEP?
[06:46] <rootrip> ok..."sudo shutdown" did not work...  just to be clear I have only have the option to go into hibernate from the shutdown menu in ubuntu
[06:46] <musya3d> so they cant look at other files while doing ftp
[06:46] <denis_on_ubuntu> any ideas t3?
[06:46] <kalorin> well at least 2 anyway
[06:46] <t35t0r> google it
[06:46] <t35t0r> i would compile it
[06:46] <sbalneav> jusama14: For the last time, what does it return when you do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:46] <dager> rootrip: sorry, try "sudo shutdown now".. it should send SIGINITs everywhere and reboot you
[06:46] <kalorin> both named ati-config-Device[0]  or [1] 
[06:46] <rootrip> kk
[06:46] <rootrip> thanks
[06:47] <Jimmey> Dr_willis: I've got sudo working, is there anything else that will be screwed after doing that copy? Or can I wipe the original partition?
[06:47] <jusama14> I looked, that's why i and many other people are here
[06:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> ii'm new to linux and ubuntu - i googled it and did a bunch of research, but i'm really not sure where to go from here because i found nothing that helps
[06:47] <Crichton> Hey can anyone help, I am running just a DSL gateway server, which shares the net to all my PC's on network. It also connects to VPN's. Now my problem is that the gateway PC can PING / connect to the the VPN server but the other computers on the network can not PING or connect to the VPN server ...
[06:47] <facugaich> dager, I think he needs to do shutdown -r now in order to reboot
[06:47] <jusama14>  okay can someone help me install a WIRELESS USB CARD step by STEP?
[06:48] <dager> facugaich... i didnt think you needed -r.. but i dunno, you're most likely right :P
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  sudo working? huh?   you proberly should 'google' for the proper way to mirror/backup a linux partition. theres a lot of little things to watchout for when its your / partition
[06:48] <Number2> how can i get rid of a non emty folder?
[06:48] <Aiwuu> well maybe someone here can help me... when im in XGL Session and i use glxinfo i get "direct rendering NO" this is normal?
[06:48] <jusama14> i've been here for the last hour
[06:48] <Aiwuu> and when im in normal sessions i have a "yes" :S
[06:48] <GGL|r4nge`> making a script i was trying to add a function, noticed that function func() { } doesnt work if i use #!/bin/sh but does with #!/bin/bash, what can i use to make i compatible with sh
[06:48] <fizzmahon> anyone good with ati drivers
[06:48] <denis_on_ubuntu> sbalneav - when i type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 -> I get "Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:48] <sbalneav> jusama14: Well, I've been trying to help you, and you're ignoring me.
[06:48] <jusama14> sb, i replid
[06:48] <jusama14> i told you, i did install nds
[06:48] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, alright, thanks
[06:49] <t35t0r> denis_on_ubuntu, i think the problem is that the ndiswrapper module you have and the kernel you have were not compiled with the same version of gcc
[06:49] <sbalneav> Not that I saw
[06:49] <Number2> how can i get rid of a non emty folder?
[06:49] <ojk007> hey, soz to but in but could someone help me with installing nvidia drivers for Fiesty Herd 5?
[06:49] <facugaich> dager, I also think "sudo shutdown now" will just stop user processes, leaving him with a root terminal XP
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !bash
[06:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:49] <jusama14> I went to package manager and installed it
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Number2,  rm -r folder
[06:49] <sbalneav> I want you to do it right now.  And report what it says.
[06:49] <Number2> thanks
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Number2,  or drag it to the trash. :)
[06:49] <jusama14> do what?
[06:49] <Polygon89> hello, sorry if this was asked before, but for some reason synaptic is telling me that "not all packages can be updated unless i run a dist. upgrade", and then i click "ok" and it wants to update ubuntu 6.10... but it is already 6.10... should i go ahead and "upgrade"?
[06:49] <Vaatix> Anyone have any clue how to Mount my Primary Drive? I need to be able to copy the GRUB files from /boot/grub/ to there so I don't have to keep the Drive my external drive plugged in all the time.
[06:49] <jusama14> can i pm you? all the other talk is getting in the way
[06:49] <rootrip> ok, wow, "sudo shutdown now" did not work either... and I also noticed that "stopping periodic command scheduler..."  [fail] ???
[06:49] <denis_on_ubuntu> t35 - again, i'm new to linux and ubuntu - so what do i do to get this to work? what do i have to compile / do lol
[06:49] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, do you know where I could find a guide on how to use tar? I've googled, but no I'm lost
[06:50] <Aiwuu> someone can help me?
[06:50] <sbalneav> If we don't do it here, then other people won't be able to see how we solve it.
[06:50] <thoreauputic> !msg
[06:50] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[06:50] <CUBeR64> does anyone know how to restard the sound in ubuntu? like restarting gdm
[06:50] <jusama14> well no one else is asking about it...?
[06:50] <t35t0r>  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[06:50] <dager> CUBeR64: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart your X session
[06:50] <denis_on_ubuntu> t35 - again, i'm new to linux and ubuntu - so what do i do to get this to work? what do i have to compile / do lol
[06:50] <thoreauputic> jusama14: lots of people learn from answers in the channel
[06:50] <sbalneav> There are at least 3 people in here with wireless problems right now.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  gee.. i got it on 1 google search.. :)  http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/mirror%20a%20linux%20installation
[06:51] <sbalneav> So, like I said, 3 times....
[06:51] <vicente> any c++ guys or gals here that can help me with a simple problem?
[06:51] <t35t0r> download the ndiswrapper source code
[06:51] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, thanks :-)
[06:51] <t35t0r> decompress it
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  i googled for  mirror linux partition tar
[06:51] <CUBeR64> dager: so theres no one to just shutdown and restard the audio on its own?
[06:51] <sbalneav> do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:51] <acid_burn> Whoa, one at a time.
[06:51] <cypher1> vicente, ##c++
[06:51] <cheeseboy> how do you import env variables
[06:51] <acid_burn> Guys, seriously.
[06:51] <Aiwuu> ...
[06:51] <acid_burn> ONE AT A TIME.
[06:51] <t35t0r> ./configure ; make && make install
[06:51] <jusama14> OKAY
[06:51] <acid_burn> THANKS.
[06:51] <acid_burn> I APPRECIATE IT.
[06:51] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone point me to a good howto for ubuntu 6.10 and nvidia drivers?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <denis_on_ubuntu> sbalneav - when i type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 -> I get "Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[06:51] <dager> CUBeR64: there is, i thought you wanted to restart GDM... "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart" should restart your sound
[06:52] <dager> as somebody pointed about above
[06:52] <rootrip> so..."sudo shutdown now" acted like it was working then brought me right back to the shell prompt.  what to do?
[06:52] <cheeseboy> cannot connect to X server
[06:52] <Dr_willis> !find ndiswrapper
[06:52] <cheeseboy> how can I fix this
[06:52] <CUBeR64> dager: :P thanks a lot dager :)
[06:52] <acid_burn> How do I up the resolution on Ubuntu 6.10 in Parallels?
[06:52] <sbalneav> denis_on_ubuntu: hold on one sec, lets see what jusama14 comes back with.
[06:52] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)
[06:52] <t35t0r> ndiswrapper-source
[06:52] <denis_on_ubuntu> ok deal
[06:52] <cheeseboy> i need to give a display of 0 to this user
[06:52] <vicente> cyphase, i tried, they are very quiet in there -_-
[06:52] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:~$ fgl_glxgears
[06:52] <kalorin> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[06:52] <kalorin> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:52] <kalorin> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[06:52] <jusama14> SBAL IT SAID could not find package and then the package name
[06:52] <kalorin> ok this is now interesting
[06:52] <jusama14> i have 1.38
[06:52] <acid_burn> GUYS?
[06:52] <kalorin> I've rebooted, I get that which is what I was trying to "fix" before
[06:52] <dager> rootrip: somebody suggested trying "sudo shutdown -r now"... that -r flag might complete the process, instead of sending you to a shell prompt
[06:53] <acid_burn> I ASKED A QUESTION.
[06:53] <jusama14> said the same thing
[06:53] <CUBeR64> dager: oh its says no such file or directory :S
[06:53] <jusama14> SBAL where are you????????????????????
[06:53] <rootrip> ok...ill try that
[06:53] <thoreauputic> !caps | acid_burn
[06:53] <ubotu> acid_burn: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:53] <sbalneav> ok, both jusama and the other fellow try this
[06:53] <kalorin> but now the two monitors seem to be 1 screen
[06:53] <acid_burn> Answer my question.
[06:53] <cyphase> vicente: i think you mean cypher1
[06:53] <kalorin> and it's otherwise pretty happy
[06:53] <sbalneav> change ndiswrapper-1.8 to 1.1
[06:53] <kalorin> or seems to be
[06:53] <sbalneav> see what that does
[06:53] <thoreauputic> !attitude | acid_burn
[06:53] <ubotu> acid_burn: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:53] <jusama14> I have version 1.38
[06:53] <krustofski> !quicktime | krustofski
[06:54] <acid_burn> Your attitude isn't any better.
[06:54] <denis_on_ubuntu> change command not found
[06:54] <t35t0r> hahahaha
[06:54] <ojk007> Please help: nVidia drivers. Fiesty Herd 5.. Apologies for spamming
[06:54] <ojk007> Please help: nVidia drivers. Fiesty Herd 5.. Apologies for spamming
[06:54] <ojk007> Please help: nVidia drivers. Fiesty Herd 5.. Apologies for spamming
[06:54] <jusama14> sbalneav i have version 1.38
[06:54] <kalorin> acid_burn, yeah but he might know what you want to know
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !fiesty
[06:54] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:54] <kalorin> acid_burn, while you are asking for help
[06:54] <sbalneav> denis_on_ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.1
[06:54] <zero-9376> can someone help me out with sound recording on 6.10? usb sound card u46dj detected and configured for all ins and outs in >System>Prefs>Sound?
[06:54] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, I'm really very sorry to bother you like this, but I'm still pretty lost - The page doesn't really explain what's going on
[06:54] <ojk007> :d thanks
[06:54] <acid_burn> Thanks.
[06:54] <dager> CUBeR64: im not in linux right now, but if you check your /etc/init.d/ folder, you should see something resembling "alsa" or "sound".. restart that with the command "/etc/init.d/XXX restart"
[06:54] <denis_on_ubuntu> it said couldnt find package sbalneav
[06:54] <thoreauputic> acid_burn: now please nehave
[06:54] <acid_burn> Yes sir.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> *behave
[06:54] <genii> ojk007: For feisty #ubuntu+1 may be better to ask in
[06:54] <Dr_willis> acid_burn,  you do realize  that theres a lot of docs on the ubuntu web site that cover the basics like this.
[06:55] <acid_burn> Yes, and I've exhausted them to no avail.
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  on what? i got a real short attention span. :)
[06:55] <CUBeR64> dager: oh okay, ill look around
[06:55] <acid_burn> Which is why I'm here.
[06:55] <acid_burn> The last resort.
[06:55] <acid_burn> For nerds.
[06:55] <sbalneav> jusama14: how do you know you've got 1.38 when I asked you to do a dpkg -l | grep ndiswrapper and you said it returned nothing?
[06:55] <acid_burn> Like me.
[06:55] <painkiler> hey guys
[06:55] <jusama14> I downloaded 1.38 from their website
[06:55] <jusama14> and I extracted the folder
[06:55] <painkiler> is there a command that will tell you folder size?
[06:55] <sbalneav> jusama14: WHO's website?
[06:55] <kalorin> painkiler, du -sk <folder>
[06:55] <painkiler> or capacity?
[06:55] <denis_on_ubuntu> it said couldnt find package for sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.1
[06:56] <kalorin> or du -sm <folder>
[06:56] <denis_on_ubuntu> :(
[06:56] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, I'm looking to copy the contents of hda1 to hdd1 so I can basically copy my Ubuntu set up and boot from that, the link doesn't really explain much
[06:56] <jusama14> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation#Downloading
[06:56] <t35t0r> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[06:56] <sbalneav> ok, no
[06:56] <sbalneav> don't do that
[06:56] <jusama14> ok..
[06:56] <acid_burn> God, you guys couldn't write a sentence for your life.
[06:56] <jusama14> let me delete everything i have
[06:56] <acid_burn> I'm out of here.
[06:56] <jusama14> and we'll start fresh
[06:56] <kalorin> acid_burn, I think I'm fairly literatte
[06:56] <t35t0r> goodbye!!!
[06:56] <thoreauputic> acid_burn: bye
[06:56] <kalorin> acid_burn, I think I'm fairly literate rather
[06:56] <acid_burn> Literate.
[06:56] <sbalneav> There's ndiswrapper packages already configured that you can use from Ubuntu.
[06:56] <Crichton> Hey can anyone help, I am running just a DSL gateway server, which shares the net to all my PC's on network. It also connects to VPN's. Now my problem is that the gateway PC can PING / connect to the the VPN server but the other computers on the network can not PING or connect to the VPN server ...
[06:56] <acid_burn> lmao.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371001
[06:56] <sbalneav> Use those.
[06:56] <Jimmey> Dr_willis: I don't know what "tar -c --exclude /proc --exclude /sys / | tar -x" will do
[06:56] <thoreauputic> acid_burn: have a nice life
[06:56] <jusama14> yeah
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  looks rather direct..
[06:56] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, thanks
[06:56] <jusama14> FROM package manager
[06:56] <jusama14> I installed that
[06:57] <dager> ndiswrapper folks: sorry to but in, but make sure you have your kernel headers installed :)
[06:57] <jwtodd> syntax is overrated :)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  it pipes the tar data from one place to another  place. :)
[06:57] <denis_on_ubuntu> yeah i installed them from package manager too
[06:57] <kalorin> anyway, is there anyone here that's really good with X?
[06:57] <kalorin> specifically Xorg?
[06:57] <denis_on_ubuntu> --> so i guess i'm in the same boat as you jusama
[06:57] <t35t0r> just ask your question
[06:57] <t35t0r> and if it's about fglrx i don't help
[06:57] <jusama14> OKAY sbal
[06:57] <kalorin> heh
[06:57] <jusama14> are you there?
[06:57] <sbalneav> denis_on_ubuntu: and jusama14, did you read the howto?
[06:57] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, will I have to extract the data?
[06:57] <denis_on_ubuntu> yes sbal
[06:57] <CUBeR64> dager: alright i got it, it was named alsa-utils
[06:58] <kalorin> it's about trying to get the Xlib XFree86-DRI errors to go away
[06:58] <sbalneav> Did you add the universe and multiverse repositories?
[06:58] <dager> CUBeR64: good to know, thanks! :D
[06:58] <t35t0r> the only help about fglrx i will give is to dump it and your ati card
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  thats what the last tar command does.. :)
[06:58] <jusama14> no....
[06:58] <jusama14> link??
[06:58] <sbalneav> ok
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  its one fancy command.
[06:58] <Rei-chan> Is there a way to discover why my box is rebooting when it starts loading the Ubuntu CD?
[06:58] <denis_on_ubuntu> yes - that's the first thing i did when i installed ubuntu
[06:58] <CUBeR64> dager: thanks
[06:58] <mojo__> fglrx make you t35ty, t35t0r?
[06:58] <thoreauputic> pepil whoo expekt literasy on IRC wil be sorely disapointed :)
[06:58] <sbalneav> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:58] <kalorin> t35t0r, it's funny a friend of mine gave up and has an NVidia card
[06:58] <t35t0r> mojo__, yes
[06:58] <jusama14> actually sbal, just help me
[06:58] <mojo__> lol
[06:58] <sbalneav> I'll help both of you.
[06:58] <blanky> hey guys, I'm trying to run a game server, all ports on my router are open, but people are still unable to see it, could it have something to do with iptables? If so, how can I open 28950 and 28960 with an iptables command?
[06:58] <dager> jusama14: have you installed the appropriate kernel headers?
[06:58] <t35t0r> blanky, iptables -L , is anything active?
[06:58] <kalorin> I don't have any real issues with this radeon card
[06:59] <jusama14> no
[06:59] <jusama14> all i have done is
[06:59] <jusama14> installed
[06:59] <kalorin> I just can't seem to get the direct drawing stuff to work under xorg
[06:59] <jusama14> ubuntu
[06:59] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, so if I did that, I'd have the same set up on /dev/hdd1 as on /dev/hda1? And all that's needed would be the edit of /etc/fstab and menu.list?
[06:59] <dager> jusama14: thats most likely why its not working :)
[06:59] <ojk007> !nvdia
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <kalorin> and it's making me wonder if XFree is the better option?
[06:59] <ojk007> !fiesty
[06:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:59] <t35t0r> kalorin, that's a major problem
[06:59] <t35t0r> kalorin, no
[06:59] <blanky> t35t0r: Sorry, what do you mean?
[06:59] <blanky> I ran that
[06:59] <sbalneav> jusama14: and denis_on_ubuntu, are you both running edgy?
[06:59] <jusama14> dager, how do i install it?
[06:59] <t35t0r> blanky, does it show any rules?
[06:59] <kalorin> Xinerama seems to kill direct draw
[06:59] <jusama14> i dunno
[06:59] <denis_on_ubuntu> sbalneav - no - i'm on dapper
[06:59] <jusama14> no
[06:59] <kalorin> so I did it the ATI way and that didn't seem to help either
[07:00] <jusama14> i have 6.06
[07:00] <kalorin> but it seems alittle snappier
[07:00] <blanky> t35t0r: uh, can I paste this? sorry, I'm pretty sure they're rules, though not sure
[07:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> so i guess we're both on dapper
[07:00] <sbalneav> ok
[07:00] <dager> jusama14: check synaptic for "kernel-headers" and install the appropriate one.. then reinstall ndiswrapper packages, just to be sure
[07:00] <Rei-chan> kalorin: Did you get direct rendering enabled with your flgrx (ATI Binary) drivers?
[07:00] <blanky> !paste
[07:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:00] <thoreauputic> !paste | blanky
[07:00] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, and do you know how long that will take with 40GB worth of files? Approximately?
[07:00] <ubotu> blanky: please see above
[07:00] <Number2> What is the directory that contains the init directories?
[07:00] <kalorin> Rei-chan, I think so
[07:00] <dager> jusama14: then you should be good, or at least in a better position
[07:00] <t35t0r> /etc/rc.d
[07:00] <ojk007> !xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:00] <blanky> uh, thanks thoreauputic ...
[07:00] <t35t0r> /etc/init.d
[07:00] <kalorin> Rei-chan, how would I tell?
[07:00] <Rei-chan> kalorin: If it didn't say Direct Rendering: Yes, then you didn't.
[07:00] <jusama14> dager, which are appropriate? lol
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  depends on the hd speed.. :) id say an hr or so.. no clue really
[07:00] <thoreauputic> blanky: sorry I was a little slow there :)
[07:00] <kalorin> "it" is a bit vague
[07:01] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, we'll see, I guess
[07:01] <Rei-chan> kalorin: In a terminal, use glxinfo.
[07:01] <kalorin> I'll ask "it"
[07:01] <blanky> t35t0r: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9589/
[07:01] <kalorin> direct rendering: No
[07:01] <blanky> t35t0r: so it looks like it shouldn't be iptables' problem, right
[07:01] <kalorin> there we have it
[07:01] <Number2> t35tor im given the options between rc0 and rc6
[07:01] <sbalneav> jusama14: and denis_on_ubuntu, both of you need to go read this page, and add the universe and multiverse repositories
[07:01] <t35t0r> blanky, no you have no rules iptables is not your problem
[07:01] <dager> jusama14: get the "i386" ones
[07:01] <sbalneav> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:01] <Rei-chan> kalorin: The ATI binary drivers section on the Ubuntu wiki describes installing and testing Radeon drivers, both open source and binary.
[07:01] <blanky> thanks t35t0r
[07:01] <t35t0r> Number2, those are runlevel directories
[07:01] <Rei-chan> !ATI
[07:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:01] <kalorin> Rei-chan, any thoughts on how to change it's mind?
[07:01] <jusama14> wait wait
[07:01] <dager> jusama14: im assuming.. if you're on a 64-bit processor or a PPC, get the ones labelled as such
[07:01] <jusama14> I checked in package manager
[07:01] <ekul`> im getting skype database errors
[07:01] <Rei-chan> Follow those directions, kalorin.
[07:01] <jusama14> no kernal headers
[07:02] <ekul`> :(
[07:02] <dager> jusama14: kernel, not kernal :)
[07:02] <jusama14> yeah
[07:02] <jusama14> none
[07:02] <jusama14> sbal i know how to do repositories
[07:02] <Number2> t35tor  im installing vmware and it wants to know which one  and it says between rc0 and rc6
[07:02] <sbalneav> ok, then do this:
[07:02] <thoreauputic> jusama14: search for linux-headers
[07:02] <dager> jusama14: "linux-kernel-headers" should be there
[07:02] <t35t0r> what
[07:02] <t35t0r> run it in 5
[07:02] <sbalneav> aptitude search ndiswrapper
[07:03] <ekul`> !skype
[07:03] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:03] <sbalneav> What does it return?
[07:03] <jusama14> okay which linux heade?
[07:03] <jusama14> okay
[07:03] <jusama14> i see it
[07:03] <jusama14> it is installed
[07:03] <thoreauputic> jusama14: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:03] <jusama14> thor, they are already installed
[07:04] <thoreauputic> OK
[07:04] <jusama14> wait
[07:04] <jusama14> no
[07:04] <jusama14> the kernel is
[07:04] <jusama14> 386 isnt
[07:04] <sbalneav> Sigh
[07:04] <thoreauputic> jusama14: do the command as above
[07:04] <ant> heh
[07:04] <sbalneav> Night all, I'm getting nothing accomplished here.
[07:05] <t35t0r> uggh ndiswrappers is too much work for people in ubuntu
[07:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> sbalneav - for me it returns
[07:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> v   ndiswrapper-modules-1.8         -
[07:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> i   ndiswrapper-source              - Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel moi   ndiswrapper-utils               - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper
[07:05] <jusama14> thor
[07:05] <jusama14> it says
[07:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> nooooooooooooo :(
[07:05] <dager> t35t0r, agreed :P
[07:05] <jusama14> sudo:timestap too far in the future
[07:05] <jusama14> sbal
[07:05] <thoreauputic> jusama14: you have a config issue with sudo
[07:05] <jusama14> watever
[07:05] <jusama14> ..?
[07:06] <jusama14> what do i do
[07:06] <Number2> t35tor it says is not an existing directory
[07:06] <Number2> What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)?
[07:06] <ojk007> !mp3
[07:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jusama14: does the command " date " return correct time ?
[07:06] <jusama14> THOREAUPUTIC!!!!
[07:06] <jusama14> k
[07:06] <lkthomas> guys
[07:06] <jusama14> yeah
[07:06] <thoreauputic> :(
[07:06] <jusama14> it does
[07:07] <thoreauputic> jusama14: no need to yell
[07:07] <t35t0r> hahah
[07:07] <lkthomas> I found something interesting, dmesg found my e100 eth0 card, but when I try ifconfig eth0, it said device not found
[07:07] <lkthomas> anyone got idea ?
[07:07] <t35t0r> lkthomas, ifconfig -a | more
[07:07] <jusama14> thor okay
[07:07] <jusama14> it is working now
[07:07] <jusama14> i changed the date
[07:07] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:07] <Dr_willis> lkthomas,  i belive theres 2 moduiles that can be used for that card..  i think one may have some issues...
[07:07] <kalorin> mojoa
[07:07] <kalorin> mojo, thanks
[07:08] <kalorin> it's still not behaving correctly
[07:08] <jusama14> thor it is done..
[07:08] <guideX> i broke my K key so i can't type make, how do I compile? just kidding
[07:08] <thoreauputic> jusama14: use tab complete on nicks or people won't notice your posts
[07:08] <t35t0r> lol
[07:08] <Dr_willis> lkthomas,  is the e100.ko module loaded?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> jusama14: for instance I have a beep on highlight for my nick
[07:08] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, oh how nice
[07:08] <jusama14> how do i do that?
[07:08] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, thanks for letting us know about that feature
[07:09] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, hey how are you doing ..good me too?
[07:09] <mojo> kalorin: you may have prblm with 1) repository version of "ati binary" kernel module still active against dl'd and compiled ati X.Org driver (mismatch), or you may need to have the latest kernel headers installed.  EVERY TIME you upgrade the kernel you'll have to re-make that fglrx.ko piece to match it
[07:09] <guideX> no really htough, whats the easiest way to install a codec for mp3's?
[07:09] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, what's the date and time and weather in your neck of the wooods?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> t35t0r: ...
[07:09] <kalorin> yeah just reading that part right now
[07:09] <jusama14> thor..how do i do all this???
[07:09] <thoreauputic> !offtopic
[07:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:09] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, heh
[07:09] <lkthomas> Dr_willis, yep
[07:09] <guideX> like whats theeasiest mp3 codec to install cause i'm having problems
[07:09] <kalorin> what worries me is that I've messed the thing up badly enough it's never going to be right again :(
[07:09] <t35t0r> thoreauputic,
[07:09] <jusama14> anyway, can we continue??
[07:09] <t35t0r> oops
[07:09] <t35t0r> sorry
[07:10] <mojo> kalorin: fwiw i have ati radeon 9800 pro and have used both fglrx and ati/radeon (opensource) drivers... presently i use the opensource drivers
[07:10] <kalorin> is one better than the other for one reason or another?
[07:10] <kalorin> well with a radeon x700 I think I can't use the opensource stuff can i?
[07:11] <jusama14> THOREAUPUTIC
[07:11] <Number2> What directory contains the desktop menu entry files? like .desktop
[07:11] <dager> kalorin, I believe the open-source radeon driver should suit your needs
[07:11] <mojo> kalorin: the opensource drivers are not as fast at 3d accel as the fglrx (yet), but they DO support the AIGLX and Composite extensions to X.Org for beryl/compiz sweetness wehereas ati bumflock proprietary drivers don't.
[07:11] <Vaatix>  Anyone have any clue how to Mount my Primary Drive? I need to be able to copy the GRUB files from /boot/grub/ to there so I don't have to keep the Drive my external drive plugged in all the time.
[07:11] <thoreauputic> jusama14: I don't use ndiswrapper - have you read the wiki page ?
[07:11] <jusama14> yes
[07:11] <kalorin> no idea about beryl
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Number2,  try 'locate .desktop'
[07:11] <Number2> What directory contains the desktop menu entry files? like .desktop
[07:12] <Number2> ok
[07:12] <kalorin> 2d desktops are happy enough fo me
[07:12] <Pelo> Vaatix,  have you tried asking in #grub ?
[07:12] <kalorin> for me
[07:12] <Vaatix> >.>
[07:12] <jusama14> I just need something that will fix
[07:12] <kalorin> never tried 3d
[07:12] <Dr_willis> if your locate database is up to date. :) if not use 'sudo updatedb'
[07:12] <dager> Vaatix: it might be easier just to install grub to your internal MBR
[07:12] <jusama14> my wireless card on UBUNTU
[07:12] <Vaatix> I wasn't aware there was a #grub.
[07:12] <kalorin> is it more useful, or just more pretty?
[07:12] <guideX> so does anyone know of an easy to install mp3 codec for ubutnu edgy?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> !repeat | Number2
[07:12] <ubotu> Number2: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:12] <kalorin> mp3 codec?
[07:12] <kalorin> Id idn't have to
[07:12] <Pelo> Vaatix,  there is a #everything
[07:12] <kalorin> xmms just worked
[07:12] <guideX> i can't play mp3's at all
[07:12] <mojo> kalorin: not saying you do... i was just relating my reasoning... um, what do you want to install fglrx drivers for if you are not going to run 3d acceleration? i would stick with the opensource ones.  much less hassle, for one.
[07:12] <kalorin> I installed vlc though
[07:13] <guideX> using the alternate ubutnu package
[07:13] <Vaatix> I know, I'd been wondering how I was going to go about fixing all this. I still figure I have to mount the damned thing beforehand.
[07:13] <guideX> *cd
[07:13] <kalorin> mojo, mkay, how to?
[07:13] <Vaatix> Damned Hard drive.
[07:13] <t35t0r> !codec
[07:13] <Number2> thoreauputic i was aking the people that came in since i first posted it so hove it
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <t35t0r> !codecs
[07:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:13] <t35t0r> !ndiswrapper
[07:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:13] <guideX> thank you :D
[07:13] <kalorin> mojo, mostly i wanted to be able to play counterstrike or unreal tournament
[07:13] <t35t0r> !ut2k4
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Number2: you repeated your question inside 1 minute
[07:13] <jusama14> thoreaupuitc, thought i was getting somewhere with your help...guess not
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut2k4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <jusama14> no ideas?
[07:13] <kalorin> and I was thinking that it might be stopping wine from doing some things I want such as installing photoshop
[07:13] <guideX> mplayer doesn't work btw for me anyhow, probably my lack of understanding though
[07:13] <Number2> im so sorry
[07:13] <t35t0r> !wow
[07:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:13] <lkthomas> how could I disable acpi ?
[07:14] <foutrelis> I got excited today and I want to make a video out of some pictures. Put some music in the background and maybe some transition effects. Is there an application I could use? :)
[07:14] <t35t0r> in your bios
[07:14] <t35t0r> on the grub boot line acpi=off
[07:14] <t35t0r> by drinking lots of wine
[07:14] <thoreauputic> jusama14: if you have the howto, you should be able to get ndiswrapper working I guess
[07:14] <t35t0r> thoreauputic, he can't read
[07:14] <jusama14> what was the point of all the stuff we did before?
[07:14] <Rei-chan> How do I stop this PC from rebooting after starting a Ubuntu 6.10 install?
[07:14] <mojo> kalorin: lol... they are in the repository... apt-get install ... umm, let me see the actual package name before i lead you astray... 1sec
[07:14] <jusama14> shut the hell up t3
[07:14] <Dr_willis> not being able to read.. must make using IRC a real pain.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:14] <kalorin> foutrelis, well you could do it in powerpoint :)
[07:14] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, acpi=off
[07:15] <dager> foutrelis: there's plenty!
[07:15] <Dr_willis> night all
[07:15] <Number2> thoreauputic there ware two people that came in here between that one monute that didnt see me question posted
[07:15] <Rei-chan> Tried that. Tried fb=false too.
[07:15] <foutrelis> :S
[07:15] <excusemehi> Does anyone know of a good tutorial on setting up a true LAMP server with Ubuntu?
[07:15] <kalorin> do I need to uninstall fglrx first?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> t35t0r: jusama14 please take arguments elsewhere
[07:15] <kalorin> or is it going to fight?
[07:15] <kalorin> :)
[07:15] <genii> t35t0r: I gave up helping jusama maybe 2 hours ago. Very annoying individual
[07:15] <foutrelis> excusemehi: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin :)
[07:15] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, any special kernel messages before it reboots?
[07:15] <Bra1> No one know how to star VINO server?
[07:15] <t35t0r> where when does it reboot
[07:15] <jusama14> I gave up asking t3 2 hours ago, very ignorant individul
[07:15] <excusemehi> lol
[07:15] <reyn> iirc there is some way to determine what package could provide a certain binary ... ?
[07:16] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: I wish. It gets to loading the kernel sometimes, toher times, to loading the initd. Reboot seems almost random.
[07:16] <kalorin> reyn dpkg -l <file>
[07:16] <kalorin> ?
[07:16] <thoreauputic> Number2: there are currently over 900 people in this chan - your repeats are just spam
[07:16] <arrenlex> reyn: apt-file (which you have to install) or packages.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <Rei-chan> This is the box, its got Gentoo on it right now.
[07:16] <dager> Bra1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[07:16] <mojo> kalorin: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:16] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, run memtest?
[07:16] <reyn> thanks, thanks
[07:16] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: And passed it.
[07:16] <Number2> look  who is trying to argue GET OVER IT
[07:16] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, apic-off
[07:16] <Bra1> Thank You Dager
[07:16] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: Turned apic and alpic off.
[07:16] <jusama14> dager...
[07:16] <kalorin> mojo, already have the latest version according to apt
[07:16] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, is this a dell box nvidia mcp55 chipset"
[07:16] <foutrelis> kalorin, dager, there is no powerpoint in ubuntu and I think it is just video editing with pictures :P I am just asking if anyone has a suggestion on which application to use. :)
[07:16] <mojo> kalorin: that will install the "ati" opensource driver package (which will include the radeon)
[07:16] <K3nto> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config   isnt working for mr
[07:16] <K3nto> me
[07:17] <dager> jusama14: yes?
[07:17] <K3nto> package not found?
[07:17] <kalorin> foutrelis, openoffice
[07:17] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: I wish. :( Its an IBM Aptiva, old.
[07:17] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: Let me find the model number.
[07:17] <jusama14> know anything about wireless usb on ubuntu?
[07:17] <dager> foutrelis: are you partial to QT or GTK apps?
[07:17] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, tried other livecd's ?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> Number2: I'm not arguing - I'm telling you that repeats are not welcome. If you want to make an issue of it I will just silence you instead of telling you :)
[07:17] <mojo> kalorin: then it is just a matter of configuring x to use it...  you use driver name "ati" instead of "fglrx" and there is no need to load the flgrx modules
[07:17] <t35t0r> Rei-chan, knoppix 5.1.1
[07:17] <Rei-chan> E190
[07:17] <kalorin> k
[07:17] <foutrelis> dager, Since I use gnome I prefer GTK I guess
[07:17] <dager> foutrelis: try "kino"
[07:17] <Number2> what ever you just have to have the last work
[07:17] <Rei-chan> t35t0r: Hmm? See if Knoppix runs on it? Or try to install via Knoppix?
[07:17] <Number2> word
[07:18] <dager> foutrelis: it might be overkill, but it should work :P
[07:18] <foutrelis> dager: let's see that :P ty
[07:18] <mojo> kalorin: you can post your xorg.config file to pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) and give me the url it gives you so i can go look at it if you need/want
[07:18] <excusemehi> i'm scared, hold me someone.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Number2: ops always do have the last word, really :)
[07:18] <Number2> you are a geek
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Number2: thank you :)
[07:18] <mojo> excusemehi: :~/
[07:18] <kalorin> mojo, I'd much appreciate that hang on
[07:18] <Number2> leave me alone
[07:18] <arrenlex> Number2: You are aware that you're on #ubuntu, right? That applies to 946 people here.
[07:19] <foutrelis> excusemehi: Why are you scared? :(
[07:19] <arrenlex> 945
[07:19] <mojo> excusemehi: try /join #python
[07:19] <excusemehi> Someone is stealin' my pixelz!  i don't know what im talking about.
[07:20] <jusama14> maybe in the morning there will be more helpful people
[07:20] <Rei-chan> Does anyone know of a way to do a basic text only install without ever touching X or fb?
[07:20] <kalorin> mojo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9590/
[07:20] <mojo> kalorin: perhaps i should 'hang on' to excusemehi ?!?  lol
[07:20] <Vaatix> #grub isn't helping me out any.
[07:20] <arrenlex> !alternate | Rei-chan
[07:20] <ubotu> Rei-chan: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:20] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone have a howto on getting widescreen lcd's to display widescreen resolution ?
[07:20] <poningru> !ntfs
[07:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:20] <Bra1> Dager, I get Connection refused when I try to connect to it, I have it setup in my router
[07:20] <kalorin> heh
[07:20] <Rei-chan> I'm using that, unfortunately, and it jumps right to fb.
[07:20] <Rei-chan> As in, it uses a framebuffer grub boot.
[07:20] <Rei-chan> Second I select something, boom, reboot.
[07:21] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: By fb you mean the blue tex-based "dialog" installer with grey menus?
[07:21] <dager> Bra1: I have no idea how to use VNC or Vino.. I just happened to stumble across that link, sorry =/
[07:21] <kalorin> yeah what's with 22" wide screens doing 1680x1050 anyway?
[07:21] <arrenlex> text*
[07:21] <Brad2> Oh okay
[07:21] <Brad2> No problem
[07:21] <kalorin> that's 20" resolution, so the 22's are just either using bigger pixels to do it or more spacing between them
[07:21] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: No, by framebuffer, I mean the pretty graphical boot screen that comes on Ubuntu 6.10 Alternative.
[07:21] <kalorin> takes a lot away from the sharpness
[07:21] <Hydr0p0nX> yea
[07:21] <Hydr0p0nX> my 22" does 1680x1050
[07:22] <Hydr0p0nX> but it still looks good enough for me
[07:22] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: Oh, the image that appears in console when it gives you boot options? I don't know anything which gets rid of that... why is it a problem?
[07:22] <kalorin> Hydr0p0nX, sure but a 20" does the same resolution, so what's going to look sharper?
[07:22] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: For some reason, when I boot the CD, and select an option, the box reboots.
[07:22] <Hydr0p0nX> oh i know what your saying kalorin
[07:22] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: The last time I installed an OS on this box, it was Gentoo, and the Gentoo Framebuffer installer would do the same thing. Non-framebuffer text install worked.
[07:22] <excusemehi> im trying to setup a home server but in order to do that i will have to open up port 80.  i have two routers. do i change each of them?
[07:23] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: That's weird... I don't know anything useful, sorry. = /
[07:23] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: I've turned off ACPI, and everything else I can think of. When it gets to loading the kernel, boom. Reboot.
[07:23] <Rei-chan> Yeah, that's the bad part, its random and I can't even get debug info. :(
[07:23] <dager> excusemehi: it couldnt hurt, i dont think
[07:23] <kalorin> mojo, I'm specifically worried about the ati-config stuff
[07:23] <kalorin> do I just need to change the driver in the Device sections?
[07:24] <Rei-chan> kalorin: Yes.
[07:24] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: Life is too short to run gentoo. :)
[07:24] <kalorin> the Identifier I guess is just a tag right?
[07:24] <kalorin> but I have to do it for both devices?
[07:24] <Rei-chan> kalorin: Yes. Mine is "STUPID GRAPHICS CARD."
[07:24] <kalorin> heh
[07:24] <mojo> kalorin: Hydr0p0nX:  seems you are stumbling on an instance where bigger is not better (i agree with kalorin on the sharpness); however beauty is in the eye of the beholder and apparently big is better to some.  (keep yer big pixels tho!)
[07:24] <mojo> kalorin: 1sec i am getting to your file... had to load ffox and had like umpteen million tabs saved in my last session :/
[07:24] <Rei-chan> arr: This used to be a home server, and gentoo was nice cause it was small. Now, I need it as a workstation, and ... it hates Ubuntu.
[07:24] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: Won't the liveCD be better for that, then? It doesn't use a framebuffer IIRC, it goes from the text prompt straight to X.
[07:25] <kalorin> mojo, I've been looking at maybe getting a couple of 1680x1050 screens and for a long time I puzzled over 20 vs 22"
[07:25] <kalorin> heh
[07:25] <T3hMikey> do I have to login as root to install stuff? I remember needing to when I tried Debian, but I never set up a root account during the Ubuntu installation
[07:25] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: I was thinking about that, but can the LiveCD handle 88 MB of RAM?
[07:25] <foutrelis> T3hMikey: use sudo
[07:25] <arrenlex> !sudo | T3hMikey
[07:25] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: This box is old.
[07:25] <ubotu> T3hMikey: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:25] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: ...no. xD
[07:25] <kalorin> the other thing that worries me about the driver change is the various "Options"  in the first Device area
[07:25] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: Yeah, that's the problem. :)
[07:25] <Hydr0p0nX> doesn't change the fact that i'm working with a 1280x1024 resolution :/
[07:25] <mojo> kalorin: some will have resolutions in the 1900 wide range i believe.. shop around.  in the 'old days' we used to refer to the dot-pitch of a monitor to consider it worthy ;)
[07:26] <kalorin> mojo, yeah i know
[07:26] <T3hMikey> well, I mean, I downloaded a program that came as a tarball, followed the instructions on the Ubuntu site on installing tarballs, and nothing happened
[07:26] <kalorin> i have a couple of 19" syncmasters I'm using now that have been very good
[07:26] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: You could install something debian-based like Damn Small, and then switch repositories?
[07:26] <mojo> kalorin: okay ffox has settled in.. let me look at your config.
[07:26] <dager> T3hMikey: so you tried to compile from source?
[07:26] <T3hMikey> there wasn't an error in the terminal or anything, it just kind of ignored the command all together
[07:26] <kalorin> the one that has the DVI-> VGA converter on it looks soft
[07:26] <kalorin> mojo, there is a device entry with the ati driver
[07:26] <T3hMikey> I don't know what it was, the site said to type in something like tar xzf file_name
[07:26] <kalorin> but also two others with the fglrx drivers listed
[07:26] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: That's an idea, I could also use CentOS since we use it in-house, just... I wanted Ubuntu and all. :(
[07:27] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: a) Why? b) Once you install dsl, go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change the repositories to ubuntu, then grab the packages you need.
[07:27] <Flannel> !install | Rei-chan, you can install... through a variety of means.  You might also try the Server CD.  It might be kinder to older machines
[07:27] <ubotu> Rei-chan, you can install... through a variety of means.  You might also try the Server CD.  It might be kinder to older machines: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:27] <dager> T3hMikey: i believe the last step in the process ("make install" or "checkinstall") requires root, but configure and make don't
[07:27] <Helmi> any idea why my gnome-network-manager icon says "no network connection" though i'm sure i have one ;) i just installed it.
[07:27] <kalorin> I get the impression that I had the open source driver installed and then put the ati one on there and didn't clean up very well
[07:27] <excusemehi> any good online multi player games of ubuntu
[07:27] <Ayle> hi
[07:28] <excusemehi> hello welcome to the internet
[07:28] <kalorin> I'm a command line guy and am just starting to get to really using X as it's finally getting really good enough to be an everyday desktop for me
[07:28] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: Once DSL is up, and I switch sources, I can just do xubuntu-desktop?
[07:28] <T3hMikey> how do I get into root? I never got one set up, so is there some sort of default password for it? I don't know if a root account even exists, actually, I never tried
[07:28] <dager> Helmi: is the connection actually up? or just installed?
[07:28] <Flannel> T3hMikey: Root account is disabled
[07:28] <Helmi> dager: it's up - i'm using it while typing to you :)
[07:28] <kalorin> T3hMikey, I've never seen a unix box that didn't have a root account
[07:28] <Flannel> T3hMikey: Ubuntu uses sudo instead,
[07:28] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: Most likely... there might be a few interesting conflicts, but if you're reasonably good with apt, you'll probably be fine.
[07:28] <Rei-chan> Flannel: is the server CD the same as the Alternate? I'm kinda without X here, so its hard to find stuff on the wiki.
[07:28] <Ayle> can anyone tell me how to configure networkmanager>
[07:28] <Ayle> ?
[07:29] <kalorin> T3hMikey, you can sudo su - root and be root, but that's really kind of cheating and will open you up to all sorts of possibilities of breaking stuff
[07:29] <dager> Helmi: makes sense :P I dunno, that's weird.. and kinda shot down my prepared ifconfig and dhcp tips :P
[07:29] <Flannel> Rei-chan: no, it's a separate CD, smaller.  And, I really don't know if it'll jump straight to a FB or not
[07:29] <arrenlex> Rei-chan: That is, theoretically, yes you can. It will find and install it. In practice, there might be package conflicts which you'll have to resolve.
[07:29] <T3hMikey> yeah, I don't like the breaking stuff part
[07:29] <Flannel> T3hMikey, kalorin, if you want a root shell, use `sudo -i`
[07:29] <Rei-chan> Flannel: Ok, I'll grab that.
[07:29] <T3hMikey> I have no idea what I'm doing in Linux, so chances are really good I'll mess something up if I'm not really careful
[07:29] <mojo> kalorin: okay you have a fun little mess there!
[07:29] <rohinton> T3hMikey: root privileges is associated with the initial account you create?
[07:29] <Rei-chan> arrenlex: I suck at apt. :)
[07:29] <kalorin> mojo, yeah I figured
[07:29] <T3hMikey> rohinton: I... guess so
[07:30] <T3hMikey> it's the only account in existance, so I would hope so
[07:30] <Flannel> rohinton: Don't use root, don't use a root shell, there's absolutely no reason to do so in ubuntu
[07:30] <Helmi> dager: hehe - hmm it's strange, isn't it? i also can't find any settings for network-manager.. strange
[07:30] <kalorin> mojo, I've been running linux as a server for like 10 years, but this really is only the 2nd install I've done with X and the first time I'm really using it
[07:30] <mojo> kalorin: you have three display devices defined... two instances using fglrx driver (heads 0 and 1), and another (just head 0) using the "ati" (opensource) driver.
[07:30] <Flannel> T3hMikey, rohinton, the initial account has the ability to sudo.
[07:30] <kalorin> so you think I should remove all the devices that have fglrx in them?
[07:30] <rohinton> Flannel: so you'er saying "sudo_root" everthing you need to do with root privs?
[07:30] <kalorin> mojo, ok
[07:31] <mojo> kalorin: but your Server Layout section is where all the 'pieces' are tied together, and it is referencing ONLY the fglrx driver for head 0.
[07:31] <kalorin> k
[07:31] <Flannel> rohinton: no.  Not sudo root, just sudo.  "sudo nano /file/to/edit/with/more/privs"
[07:31] <Flannel> or, gksu gedit /yadda/yadda/yadda
[07:31] <kalorin> so maybe get rid of the fglrx devices and the server layout area?
[07:31] <ant> i couldnt sudo to change directories, so i used a root term
[07:31] <kalorin> it seems to have a lot of stuff in it that I don't need, such as the wacom stuff
[07:31] <rohinton> ant: sudo executes a command as root and returns...
[07:32] <ant> it didn't work with cd
[07:32] <thoreauputic> ant: cd is a shell built-in - and why would you need sudo to change directories ?
[07:32] <Flannel> ant: you're right, sudo does a single command.  "sudo cd" doesn't make sense.  If you want a root shell, `sudo -i`, but really, you shoudn't need to change commands (unless you don't know what you want to do)
[07:32] <T3hMikey> ...this sudo thing just kind of confuses the crap out of me, how would I enable root? That seems a bit longer but simpler
[07:32] <rohinton> so sudo ksh will also give you a root term...
[07:32] <ant> it told me i needed permission
[07:32] <Flannel> rohinton: sudo -i is better, you shouldn't sudo ksh, or sudo bash, or anything like that.
[07:33] <rohinton> ant: sudo -l should show the commands available under sudo...
[07:33] <Flannel> T3hMikey: You don't enable root.  There's no reason to, and it'll only cause problems later.
[07:33] <mojo> kalorin: for starters, comment out the Device sections defined for heads 0 and 1 using the 'fglrx' driver.  Then copy the device name "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X700 Pro (RV410)" as defined on line 136 and replace that text for what you already have in the Server Layout at line number 27.
[07:33] <computrius> ahh
[07:33] <arrenlex> T3hMikey: If you absolutely must have root, you can run "sudo passwd root" to set a root password, and then you can use su and log in as root and all those things. But don't do this unless you're certain you want it very much, and be careful with it.
[07:33] <computrius> ive followed all directions, downloaded the firmware, etc.
[07:33] <stian2> is anyone able to access shared folders in Vista from ubuntu (or linux in general)? If I go to places -> network servers -> machine I get a dialog that prompts me for a username/password. If I put in the correct username/password the dialog will just re-appear after a couple of seconds. If I mount the share from the console it works fine, but not through the Gnome UI. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:33] <Flannel> T3hMikey: whenever you need to do a command that requires root access, prefix the command with "sudo" (unless it's a graphical app, then use gksu)
[07:33] <mojo> kalorin: that will tell the server layout to use the device description that is using the opensource ati driver.
[07:33] <computrius> the module loads with no errors, but it still wont make a wlan0 interface
[07:33] <kalorin> k
[07:34] <kalorin> hold on a second
[07:34] <mojo> kalorin: if we can get you running on single-head, THEN we can start to fuss about with the dual-head stuff
[07:34] <rohinton> Flannel: interesting points.
[07:34] <kalorin> it almost looks like I've got multiple versions of the monitors in there too
[07:34] <kalorin> sure
[07:34] <ojk007> !media
[07:34] <kalorin> thanks
[07:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:34] <rohinton> so what does sudo -i do? enable root in the current session?
[07:34] <kalorin> gimmie a second
[07:34] <Flannel> rohinton: no, it opens a root shell, which you'd then exit out of when done doing root stuff
[07:34] <T3hMikey> okay, since root seems to be such a bad idea, I'd need to add "sudo -i" to the beginning of any commands that require root privileges?
[07:34] <Flannel> T3hMikey: no, just sudo.
[07:34] <arrenlex> T3hMikey: No, just sudo.
[07:34] <arrenlex> T3hMikey: sudo -i is for a root shell.
[07:34] <Flannel> !sudo
[07:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:34] <mojo> kalorin: also note that IIRC the opensource ati/radeon driver uses "MergedFB" instead of Xinerama.
[07:35] <thoreauputic> rohinton: with corect environment etc
[07:35] <omegacenti> I'm having issues installing Diablo II in wine.. The CD is barely spinning at all and I suspect it is installing at 1x speed.
[07:35] <thoreauputic> rohinton: umm.. correct ( it gives you a root shell until you exit )
[07:35] <ant> T3hMikey: you would type "sudo tar -xvf foo.tar"
[07:35] <mojo> kalorin: i think so but i'd have to go wade in the spaghetti again..  you can leave the monitor descriptions alone for now.
[07:35] <ant> T3hMikey: and it'll ask for pw
[07:36] <T3hMikey> yeah, it's not changing anything at all, it's still jsut ignoring the command
[07:36] <arrenlex> What command would I use to get the process name from a pid?
[07:36] <Flannel> T3hMikey: what command are you giving?
[07:36] <ant> T3hMikey: use -v with tar to get some output
[07:36] <mojo> kalorin: besides the changes i suggested, also comment out the Xinerama line in the server layout.  Then, paste up your new version for me to see
[07:36] <T3hMikey> "sudo tar xzf filename", and then I tried it again with a - in front of xzf
[07:36] <kalorin> k
[07:36] <kalorin> working at it
[07:36] <thoreauputic> arrenlex: try ps aux | grep <process number>
[07:36] <kalorin> I got rid of the wacom stuff as well
[07:36] <kalorin> don't need that
[07:37] <ant> T3hMikey: use tar -xzvf
[07:37] <mojo> (and hanging out)
[07:37] <me2win> can anyone help with a beryl problem? (ubuntu-effects is dead)
[07:37] <zerokarmaleft> hmm, launchpad is borked
[07:38] <mojo> kalorin: yeah but i sure wish i did have a wacom tablet... that is on my eternal christmas/birthday wish list ya know ;)
[07:38] <kalorin> heh
[07:38] <T3hMikey> okay, it output a lot of stuff, but it all just looks like directories, probably of stuff in the tarball
[07:38] <kalorin> the Canon 1Ds mark III made my list today
[07:38] <arrenlex> thoreauputic: I figured it out: ps <pid>
[07:38] <kalorin> 10mega pixel and 10 frames per second
[07:38] <EvilMonk> catting /proc/cpuinfo is returning 1ghz for both my cores, but they are faster than that, is the detection busted in feisty x64?
[07:38] <ant> T3hMikey: that means it worked.
[07:38] <kalorin> dual Digic 3 processors
[07:38] <thoreauputic> arrenlex: either way :)
[07:39] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: No, your cores are throttled: the computer slows them down when they are idle to save power. They are put back at full speed when needed.
[07:39] <omegacenti> kalorin: This is where you mention the price of 4000USD
[07:39] <T3hMikey> ant: I dunno, I just looked it up, none of the directories mentioned seem to actually exist still
[07:39] <EvilMonk> arrenlex: thank you very much.
[07:39] <kalorin> omegacenti, lets not get mired int he details
[07:39] <kalorin> :)
[07:39] <omegacenti> :)
[07:39] <mojo> omegacenti: yeah, and we all join in a group laugh/cry
[07:39] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: Open two terminal tabs. In one, type "while true ; do echo hello ; done". While this is running, cat /proc/cpuinfo again. You'll see them at full speed.
[07:39] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: Press ctrl+c in your echo tab to stop it.
[07:39] <kalorin> my tax return was looking good until I hit the state stuff
[07:39] <K3nto> !ntfsfix
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <kalorin> all my beautiful and creative deductions.. they're simply immune
[07:40] <kalorin> they cheat
[07:40] <kalorin> :)
[07:40] <K3nto> is ntfsfix safe?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> !ntfs | K3nto
[07:40] <ubotu> K3nto: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:40] <EvilMonk> arrenlex: that works! thanks
[07:40] <ant> T3hMikey: what are you trying to install?
[07:40] <monsoon_king> i had windows xp...i installed ubuntu...windows does not work now... tried repairing xp....now even ubuntu is gone
[07:40] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: yw :)
[07:40] <mojo> kalorin: at least the state taxes might be halfway legal.  i hate the fed and irs bastages.  they are illegal but the courts are corrupted by bazillionaires who print money from thin air.  bastages!!!!!
[07:40] <kalorin> mojo, I've done some really heafty editing on this might have cut more than you wanted
[07:40] <kalorin> I'm pasting it back now
[07:41] <T3hMikey> ant: I was trying it with the AIM installer since I hadn't noticed GAIM came with Ubuntu and I hadn't deleted the tarball yet
[07:41] <mojo> kalorin: cool beanz
[07:41] <EvilMonk> arrenlex: does this mean i don't need the frequency scaling hack mentioned on http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/D620F6.html
[07:41] <dager> monsoon_king: are they on the same hard-drive, or two seperate ones?
[07:41] <K3nto> yes i realize all that, im at the guide. i just wanted an opinon or two on the use of the command ntfsfix
[07:41] <T3hMikey> ant: er, AIM tarball, I mean
[07:41] <rohinton> K3nto - I have used it -
[07:41] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: Your frequency IS scaled, as you saw. You don't need any hacks.
[07:41] <rohinton> K3nto: it worked for me.
[07:41] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: If you want to manually set a mode, run the command "sudo powersave --help"
[07:42] <K3nto> rohinton: anything bad happen? data loss? it just resets the journal right?
[07:42] <EvilMonk> arrenlex: ok. awesome. thanks again.
[07:42] <ant> T3hMikey: after you extract the tarball just follow the instructions for install.
[07:42] <arrenlex> EvilMonk: It will give you lots of nice options for setting all sorts of modes on all your hardware.
[07:42] <rohinton> K3nto: yep and also fix up the boot block.
[07:42] <ant> T3hMikey: there will be a readme
[07:42] <K3nto> ok good ty
[07:42] <mojo> kalorin: did you give me the new link?  i missed it
[07:42] <kalorin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9593/
[07:42] <kalorin> there it is
[07:42] <mojo> kalorin: gracias
[07:42] <T3hMikey> ant: would it be this file called "install"?
[07:42] <kalorin> sorry it claimed I was trying to spam the pastebin cause I was posting an update
[07:42] <K3nto> rohinton: and how did you run it? just type ntfsfix?
[07:43] <kalorin> everything now seems to make sense except I'm not sure about the monitor section
[07:43] <ant> T3hMikey: that or readme
[07:43] <ant> T3hMikey: use gedit or nano to read the file
[07:43] <monsoon_king> dager same hardisk diff partioins
[07:44] <stian2> is anyone able to access shared folders in Vista from ubuntu (or linux in general)? If I go to places -> network servers -> machine I get a dialog that prompts me for a username/password. If I put in the correct username/password the dialog will just re-appear after a couple of seconds. If I mount the share from the console it works fine, but not through the Gnome UI. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:44] <T3hMikey> hm... I think I can get it working now. If not, I'll be back
[07:44] <T3hMikey> thanks
[07:44] <rohinton> K#nto: I would have to do it again, it was some time ago. Try it. I think it put's out a usage message
[07:44] <dager> monsoon_king: the second windows install probably ate Ubuntu, so you might have to reinstall it.. just make sure you install GRUB to the MBR, and you should be set
[07:45] <kalorin> mojo, if you're laughing too hard to type, I have a backup and can start over and be less.... aggressive
[07:45] <kalorin> :)
[07:45] <monsoon_king> dager: so i need to reinstall bot xp and ubuntu?
[07:45] <dager> monsoon_king: no.. just ubuntu, if the windows install wrote over it
[07:45] <mojo> kalorin: i am not laughing.. i am absorbing (alcohol)
[07:45] <kalorin> heh
[07:45] <kalorin> say what?!
[07:46] <monsoon_king> dager: how do i install grub to MBR?
[07:46] <rohinton> monsoon_king: if you install grub - it will work out you have two install and should setup the appropriate boot menu....
[07:46] <dager> monsoon_king: the partition you created for ubuntu.. is it still there? if so, you might just need to rescue grub
[07:46] <monsoon_king> dager:  yeah its still there
[07:46] <kalorin> btw, http://kalorin.com/stuff/CRW_9039.html
[07:46] <kalorin> my daughter
[07:46] <kalorin> :
[07:46] <kalorin> :)
[07:47] <anonymeeee>  tomorrow I need to get my windows laptop talking to my ubuntu box
[07:47] <Megaqwerty> can I tar a file directly to a DVD+RW? (preferably using the command line)
[07:47] <mojo> kalorin: i like to keep it light.. and yes i am drinking a beer but fear not, it is only 1 with my meal and i have had all of 2 drinks.  i am not drunk nor going to get even a buzz, so your xorg.config is safe with me ;)
[07:47] <kalorin> http://kalorin.com/stuff/CRW_8995.jpg - that's what that ice storm in cincinnati looked like
[07:47] <anonymeeee> my first question will be, how do I set up ubuntu to join my windows network?
[07:47] <kalorin> mojo, no sweat, I'm not a complete noob so if you told me to do something CRAZY, I'd be questioning more
[07:48] <mojo> lol
[07:48] <kalorin> why is it 1:48am already :(
[07:48] <kalorin> I have to shoot a wedding tomorrow
[07:48] <mojo> the best humor imho comes from nuggets of trugh
[07:48] <kalorin> should be fun
[07:48] <mojo> ^truth
[07:48] <kalorin> yeah
[07:48] <anonymeeee> !commands
[07:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:48] <mojo> kalorin: so there will be a funeral immediately following?
[07:48] <kalorin> heh
[07:48] <mojo> :D
[07:48] <kalorin> photography shoot
[07:48] <kalorin> ;)
[07:49] <kalorin> trying very hard to get started doing that on the side
[07:49] <anonymeeee> anyone know of a wiki on setting up ubuntu as a file server for a windows client?
[07:49] <mojo> kalorin: i know... :)  okay on to the file... lemme read for a minute
[07:49] <kalorin> getting tired of computers
[07:49] <Slynderdale> Does Ubuntu support software raid?
[07:49] <kalorin> Slynderdale, sure
[07:49] <kalorin> Slynderdale, well, the kernel does
[07:49] <kalorin> not that crap in the bios of your pc
[07:49] <Megaqwerty> Can I tar a file directly to a DVD+RW? (preferably using the command line)
[07:49] <kalorin> Megaqwerty, wow, no idea what that would do to be honest, never thought to try
[07:49] <Slynderdale> kalorin: Is ubuntu server good as a server overall or do you suggest another OS?
[07:50] <Crichton> Hey can anyone help, I am running just a DSL gateway server, which shares the net to all my PC's on network. It also connects to VPN's. Now my problem is that the gateway PC can PING / connect to the the VPN server but the other computers on the network can not PING or connect to the VPN server ... im guessing its just a route issue ... but yeah
[07:50] <kalorin> Slynderdale, I've been running debian ever since I gave up on redhat a few years ago, then did ubuntu for my desktop here about 2 weeks ago
[07:50] <kalorin> next time I redo my server it'll be ubuntu
[07:50] <kalorin> not that debian is bad
[07:50] <kalorin> and it's a command line only box anyway, mail, ftp, http, and so on
[07:50] <anonymeeee> nite all, I'll try back tomorrow
[07:51] <Slynderdale> Ubuntu is based off of debian, so they aren't that much different
[07:51] <Megaqwerty> kalorin: how would I send the tarred file to the DVD+RW? (the path to the DVD)
[07:51] <kalorin> yeah
[07:51] <monsoon_king> dager how to rescue grub
[07:51] <kalorin> Megaqwerty, well you could tar it to /dev/wahtever the dvd is
[07:51] <kalorin> but I doubt it'll work like you want
[07:51] <blanky> !recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows | monsoon_king
[07:51] <kalorin> maybe, tar's pretty clever, but I don't think tar will see a DVD writer as a tape device
[07:52] <blanky> !recoverubuntu | monsoon_king
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recoverubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <blanky> !recovergrub | monsoon_king
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recovergrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <kalorin> what fonts are people using for their terminals?
[07:52] <blanky> !recover
[07:52] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[07:52] <kalorin> monospace 10 seems to be ok but kind of big
[07:52] <blanky> meh
[07:52] <cerealkiller219> !grub
[07:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:52] <blanky> there you go!
[07:52] <blanky> thanks cerealkiller219
[07:52] <cerealkiller219> np
[07:52] <blanky> monsoon_king: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:52] <Megaqwerty> kalorin: alright...I'll try it
[07:53] <kalorin> ah good ol' tahoma :)
[07:53] <mojo> kalorin: actually it looks pretty good...  try it.  if it fails, you might try without the first zero on line 23 as a first-attempt... beyond that we should work in tandem with the X.Org.0.log file to get it all working from what you have now...  You seem to have a good start so let's try it.
[07:53] <kalorin> k let me give it a whirl
[07:53] <kalorin> back in a second
[07:54] <ant> how would i change the font in virtual terminal?
[07:55] <ant> shhh
[07:56] <computrius> in ubuntu, I have downloaded, and installed the firmware for dwl 520 E.  modprobe hostap returns no errors.  Yet it does not create a network interface.  Any idea why it woundnt?
[07:56] <mojo> ant: you need to pass a parameter to the kernel when it boots, i think... like vga=somemagicnumber on the line in your grub configuration that boots your kernel.
[07:56] <mojo> ant: i have no idea how to change it post-boot
[07:57] <ant> mojo: its a direction, thx
[07:57] <mojo> ant yw
[07:57] <lkthomas> guys
[07:57] <cyris> hey everyone
[07:57] <lkthomas> lspci and modprobe shows e100 have been loaded
[07:57] <Taime1> can someone hellp me troubleshoot this: im having trouble playing a stream
[07:57] <vicente> later all
[07:57] <lkthomas> but when I try ifconfig eth0, it said device not found
[07:57] <ant> i loaded nubuntu and liked the different font
[07:57] <vicente> /etc/init.d/network restart
[07:57] <albacker> anybody knows a video-editting tool under linux ?!
[07:57] <thoreauputic> ant:  maybe " consolechars " ?
[07:58] <shatrat> albacker, theres Kino for frea
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ant: bever used it but it looks like a possibility...
[07:58] <K3nto> is there a way to check the ... i guess you could say "integrity" of a mounted ntfs partition?
[07:58] <mojo> albacker: and LiVES maybe and cinepaint
[07:58] <thoreauputic> *never
[07:58] <albacker> shatrat, Kino doesn't work with .avi/mpg !?
[07:58] <vicente> lkthomas, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> can anyone give me advice on how to backup my system to a DVD?
[07:58] <mojo> Megaqwerty: mondo backup or sbackup i think both do it...
[07:59] <Megaqwerty> mojo: cool, I'll check them out
[07:59] <thoreauputic> K3nto: file system checks need to be done with an unmounted partition, if I remember correctly
[07:59] <Darius08x> Hello, can anyone help me with wlan issuses on a dell inspiron 2200?
[08:00] <mojo> Megaqwerty: google around for 'backup' 'dvd' 'linux' and/or 'ubuntu' & 'edgy' as suggested keywords
[08:00] <lkthomas> here is the problem, when I try it with two PIII machine, it does not work, but P4 machine work fine
[08:00] <mojo> Megaqwerty: presuming you're using edgy, of course!
[08:00] <Darius08x> I'm currently running debian (I went through heck trying to get ubuntu, but it didn't work. Apparently, my laptop only likes network installs.)
[08:00] <Megaqwerty> mojo: thanks
[08:00] <profx> can I setup apt-get like I do urpmi to access an online database (cookers and not cookers), so I can update software?
[08:00] <mojo> Megaqwerty: gl
[08:00] <Darius08x> But I believe getting the wlan card to work shoudl be the same thing on either OS?
[08:00] <K3nto> thoreauputic: this one is mounted. im about to add 23 gb of music to my amarok databse so.. i dont really want and problems
[08:01] <thoreauputic> K3nto: you have ntfs-3g or something to use to write to ntfs?
[08:01] <alci> list
[08:01] <alci> #list
[08:02] <thoreauputic> alci: this isn't a war#Z channel ;)
[08:02] <ant> lol
[08:02] <alci> dont really know what im doing sorry
[08:02] <thoreauputic> alci: if you want a list of chans you use /list - but don't do it on freenode ( huge list)
[08:03] <kalorin> welp
[08:03] <kalorin> that was fun
[08:03] <kalorin> (not)
[08:03] <alci> ok ok
[08:03] <mojo> anyone here real familiar with working with windows/smb network shares?  is smbfs with the lfs (large file support) option stable?  it seems to crap out on me from time to time.  is there another way i should be doing it?  i think i saw somethig about cifs or cifsvfs and need sage advice
[08:03] <kalorin> I had to enter the boot menu and get it to boot with out the splash screen option to get it to drop to a command prompt to copy it back
[08:03] <kalorin> but I'm back
[08:03] <mojo> kalorin: bbiaf
[08:03] <kalorin> ultimately the Xorg.0.log ended with "no screens found"
[08:04] <profx> can I setup apt-get like I do urpmi to access an online database (cookers and not cookers), so I can update software?
[08:04] <computrius> so why was wireless in linux designed to be such a $*$%@ to configure/setup?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> !repos | profx
[08:04] <ubotu> profx: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:04] <K3nto> thoreauputic: yes all that is installe
[08:04] <K3nto> d
[08:05] <K3nto> its working. i added the collection directory with amarok. and its rescanning. :-D
[08:05] <thoreauputic> compengi: usually it's a driver issue ( proprietary drivers) see !wifi for info
[08:05] <iamsam9895> Will "apt-get install flash" work?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> umm computrius ^^^^
[08:05] <mojo> m back
[08:05] <kalorin> mojo, the log ended with this:
[08:05] <thoreauputic> !flash
[08:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:05] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:05] <kalorin> (WW) ATI:  PCI Mach64 in slot 5:0:0 could not be detected!
[08:05] <kalorin> (WW) ATI:  PCI Mach64 in slot 5:0:1 could not be detected!
[08:05] <kalorin> (EE) No devices detected.
[08:05] <kalorin> Fatal server error:
[08:05] <kalorin> no screens found
[08:05] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/var/log$
[08:05] <profx> thanks
[08:06] <kalorin> so ti really seems like it just can't figure out what that card really is
[08:06] <kalorin> it's generic
[08:06] <computrius> !wifi
[08:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:06] <mojo> kalorin: what card SHOULD it be reporting itself as?
[08:06] <lkthomas> guys, does anyone could explain why pentium III box can't use nic card, but P4 machine could ?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> kalorin: you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[08:06] <kalorin> well, it's an X700 Pro
[08:06] <kalorin> no
[08:06] <mojo> kalorin: answered myself... doh...  Radeon X700 Pro (RV410)
[08:06] <anonymeeee> !samba
[08:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:07] <Jimmey> I've copied my Ubuntu partition from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdd1 and have changed the fstab and menu.list files accordingly, but Ubuntu still mounts /dev/hda1 instead of hdd1 - What could be the problem?
[08:07] <kalorin> thoreauputic, no I screwed it up royal by installing both the free ware and fglrx drivers
[08:07] <kalorin> Jimmey, /etc/fstab likely has a label rather than a device listed
[08:07] <mojo> kalorin: make a backup of your xorg.conf and then take thoreauputic's advice if you have not done that...
[08:07] <kalorin> k
[08:08] <alci> can anyone help me with some volume control problems? i cant control volume from xmms..
[08:08] <thoreauputic> kalorin: using the dpkg tools is usually more successful
[08:08] <mojo> anonymeeee: was that directed at me?  (the samba stuff?)
[08:08] <kalorin> thoreauputic, wow I never got this far, usually it would just lock ont eh splash screen
[08:08] <thoreauputic> kalorin: at the worst you can choose a vesa  driver to get going and revisit the command later
[08:08] <kalorin> in fact to install it I had to drop to a shell and apt-get install fglrx
[08:09] <kalorin> and then do it again after the install was complete
[08:09] <thoreauputic> ati sucks :)
[08:09] <Jimmey> kalorin, a label?
[08:09] <ant> ati and linux are not friends
[08:09] <Jimmey> kalorin, I replaced /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdd1 in FSTAB
[08:09] <mojo> kalorin: remember we are playing with the ati/radeon driver not the fglrx at the moment
[08:09] <Jimmey> kalorin, I think it's actually /dev/hdd1 that's mounted, but "mount" reports that hda1 is
[08:10] <kalorin> mojo, yeah I selected ATI from the list of drivers
[08:10] <mojo> kalorin: if you would prefer to use the fglrx for whatever reason we could switch gears, but like i said it has it's extra headaches with that kernel module that you have to keep in sync
[08:10] <kalorin> which included fglrx
[08:10] <kalorin> no i like no headaches
[08:10] <mojo> kalorin: okay... just checkin because you brought up fglrx again and want to be sure we're all on the same page
[08:10] <Aiwuu> i will back tomorrow :), because... i need to solve my beryl problem XD:)
[08:10] <kalorin> i can always switch back if I find some reason in the future that's performance related
[08:10] <kalorin> no no, just saying it was listed as a driver
[08:11] <mojo> kalorin: np~
[08:11] <kalorin> how much memory does this card have?
[08:11] <rohinton> ant: true I tried the latest herd5 ( x,k,u ) on a dell inspiron laptop and they did not like it....
[08:11] <rohinton> this evening... (H)
[08:12] <thoreauputic> kalorin: you can usually just accept defaults in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <thoreauputic> kalorin: just see waht driver it picks - accept if it looks sane :)
[08:13] <ant> i feel i got lucky with an intel video card with my dell laptop
[08:13] <ant> but still wish i had an nvidia
[08:13] <rohinton> I have nvidia...
[08:13] <Jimmey> ant, naw. Intel's badly supported in Linux. nVidia pwnz.
[08:14] <rohinton> old but good enough...
[08:14] <kalorin> ok
[08:14] <ant> but to be honest everything has worked out of the box.. but i cannot play doom3 :[
[08:14] <kalorin> I put in 256megs of ram
[08:14] <Madpilot> Jimmey, a lot of the new Intel graphics chips actually have OSS drivers from Intel
[08:14] <kalorin> I have no idea if it's 256 or 512
[08:14] <Jimmey> Madpilot, yeah, but for my chip, they don't come for/compile on, Ubuntu.
[08:15] <kalorin> ok lets try to restart again
[08:15] <mojo> kalorin: safe bet
[08:15] <kalorin> back in a second
[08:15] <ekimus> Jimmey: haven't the intel drivers been open sourced? think i read something about that a few months ago...
[08:15] <ant> even my wireless is intel, and worked with no config
[08:15] <deadowl> Anyone know how to get around the damn GNOME Combo Box whitespace of I can't see the damned list?
[08:15] <Jimmey> ekimus, yeah, but they don't compile. Last time I checked, anyway
[08:16] <ant> thats why i feel lucky  :] 
[08:16] <Jimmey> ekimus, you can get SuSe and Fedora RPMS, which is useless if you don't have SuSe, or Fedora
[08:16] <rohinton> Jimmy: So it's read but you just can't ride... :-)
[08:16] <ekimus> Jimmey: well they're just badly supported in ubuntu :) - file a bug report
[08:16] <Jimmey> ekimus, yeah, I suppose
[08:16] <ekimus> s/well/well then
[08:17] <deadowl> Is it possible to get my combo boxes in GNOME apps to show the entire box?
[08:18] <deadowl> rather than whitespace?
[08:21] <mojo> hello?
[08:22] <deadowl> hi
[08:22] <ant> anyone got an opinion on the book, "ubuntu unleashed"?
[08:22] <mojo> :) just checking... i am not used to the channel getting silent... thought i disconnected
[08:23] <deadowl> yea, i think my question about gnome combo boxes may have confused people
[08:23] <ant> everybody is off doing something
[08:23] <Jimmey> Installing Windows
[08:23] <Jimmey> :'-9
[08:23] <ant> heh
[08:23] <mojo> jimmey neesd to pass that pipe or put it down
[08:23] <Jimmey> LOL
[08:24] <mojo> crack kills but herb is a'ight
[08:24] <Jimmey> At least I know now how an operating system _should_ work
[08:24] <Jimmey> I'll be able to configure XP so that it doesn't die within two months.
[08:25] <mojo> ... Plan 9 from outer space!!!  ...  (ahem)
[08:25] <ant> how much does that cost?
[08:25] <Jimmey> ant, what cost?
[08:25] <ant> getting windows to stay up that long..
[08:25] <Jimmey> ant, haha
[08:26] <Jimmey> More time and effort than's really necessary for someone who doesn't play games or do webdesign
[08:26] <ant> i actually dual boot to be honest
[08:26] <mojo> getting windows to stay up is hard ;)
[08:26] <Jimmey> ant, that's what I'm setting up
[08:26] <Jimmey> mojo, there's a viagra joke in there, somewhere
[08:26] <mojo> Jimmey: someone did, i see!
[08:27] <mojo> yah, you have to play with it a LOT to keep it up, apparently
[08:27] <mojo> oh man this must stop.
[08:27] <mojo> X)
[08:28] <Jimmey> Haha
[08:28] <Jimmey> Yeah, moving on...
[08:28] <mojo> deadowl: so what is it about combo boxes that scares ppl anyway?
[08:28] <mojo> kalorin: http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonx700/radeonx700series/index.html  says it's 256Mb
[08:28] <kalorin> no love
[08:28] <kalorin> same deal, no screens
[08:28] <ant> all the options..
[08:28] <kalorin> yeah
[08:28] <mojo> kalorin: post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[08:28] <kalorin> i read somethign that said that the ati opensource driver doesn't do radeon cards or something
[08:28] <kalorin> sec
[08:29] <ant> that wouldnt suprise me
[08:29] <deadowl> that scares meeee, that they open to place the default value on the mouse in sacrifice of visibility.
[08:29] <mojo> kalorin: it is possible that yours is one of the unsupported ones... let me look at something...
[08:29] <deadowl> not that good of a trade off in my opinion.
[08:29] <tuesday-sleep> hi i got a couple of questions about ubuntu im looking to get a new mobo and i found a suggestion of foxxconn cheap onboard video and the reviews say it works well with ubuntu but my question is more so is a 61000 intergrated graphics card going to be ok?
[08:29] <mojo> kalorin: we can always do the fglrx config if need be
[08:29] <ant> my friend bought a laptop with an ati 200m and cant play diablo2 with it under windows... its funny
[08:30] <ant> its a newer card
[08:30] <shatrat> ant, its only got a total 2 pixel pipelines. It is probably the weakest graphics hardware made in the past 5 years
[08:30] <ant> ati says they dont support it, to get drivers from computer manufacturer
[08:30] <deadowl> I think I'm going to just try to steer clear of GTK apps
[08:30] <ant> yea, he has nothing good to say about it
[08:30] <ant> but come on, diablo2!
[08:31] <kalorin> mojo, the Xorg.0.log file was rewritten when I rebooted the 2nd time to get it right
[08:31] <kalorin> it was however the same error that it had before
[08:31] <tues> ... anyone?
[08:31] <deadowl> what are good IM apps that aren't Gaim or Kopete?
[08:31] <deadowl> or Skype
[08:31] <shatrat> ant, I've played silkroad online on my brothers 200m though.  Its not pretty but it does do hardware acceleration
[08:31] <mojo> mojo: just lookin for the most recent attempt's results
[08:31] <kalorin> you want to see the one that I'm running under wnow?
[08:31] <kalorin> man i gotta get to bed
[08:31] <kalorin> 2;30am
[08:31] <kalorin> :(
[08:31] <mojo> kalorin: :) just lookin for the most recent attempt's results
[08:31] <kalorin> k sec
[08:31] <kalorin> well the most recent ati driver or fglrx driver?
[08:31] <devilsreject> what up all
[08:31] <Aarohi> how do i install the drivers for my nvidia video card?
[08:32] <blanky> !nvidia | Aarohi
[08:32] <ubotu> Aarohi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:32] <devilsreject> can somebody answer a quick easy question for me?/ how to i install a    .deb file???
[08:32] <mojo> kalorin: the output in my log sais that the radeon driver supports x700 pro, xt, and se  (all pcie)
[08:32] <Aarohi> thanks blanky
[08:32] <blanky> devilsreject: sudo dpkg -i nameof.deb
[08:32] <blanky> no problem Aarohi
[08:32] <devilsreject> right on thanx blanky
[08:32] <Jimmey> devil, sudo dpkg -i nameof.deb
[08:32] <kalorin> mojo, yeah I saw that
[08:32] <blanky> devilsreject: you can also probably just double click on it, you're welcome
[08:32] <mojo> kalorin: sure, the one you are using... i take it you are not in a gui at the moment?
[08:32] <devilsreject> blanky its tellin me that it dosn't recognize the package
[08:33] <kalorin> it's weird, if it boots iwth that driver it goes for a while then the color gets all off like a bit color shift or something and the font is a little 1 px tall green line across the screen that's unusable
[08:33] <blanky> devilsreject: can you paste it at the following site?
[08:33] <blanky> !paste | devilsreject
[08:33] <ubotu> devilsreject: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:33] <kalorin> I'm gui
[08:33] <blanky> devilsreject: paste what it tells you
[08:33] <tues> i know this really isnt ubuntu related but could anybody figure out why a pc would not turn on and only flash the turn on light/fans for a second
[08:33] <patpi> heh, at least one OS project send "thanx" to Ubuntu community :P
[08:33] <devilsreject> k
[08:33] <kalorin> I can boot without the splash option in the grub config and then it'll drop to a command line that I can use to get in and recopy the old config back to reboot
[08:33] <patpi> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Nouveau_Open_Source_3D_nvidia_drivers_thanks_Digg_com_for_support
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[08:33] <mojo> kalorin:  if you need to stop we can, but i will be up if you want to give it one more try.  um, what config are you running now then?
[08:34] <kalorin> fglrx is running right now
[08:34] <Vaatix> Anyone have any clue how to Mount my Primary Drive? I need to be able to copy the GRUB files from /boot/grub/ to there so I don't have to keep the Drive my external drive plugged in all the time.
[08:34] <kalorin> the ol' pre-edited config
[08:34] <Jimmey> Vaatix, are you in a liveCD now?
[08:34] <Vaatix> Not at the moment.
[08:34] <mojo> kalorin: if you are getting more mileage out of fglrx then maybe you should stick with that.
[08:34] <j_> how do you veiw mounted and unmounted items in shell
[08:34] <mojo> kalorin: the dri can be conquered
[08:34] <Jimmey> Which drive are you wanting to mount?
[08:35] <kalorin> ok it's pasted
[08:35] <devilsreject> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9598/
[08:35] <mojo> post your PRESENT xorg log file, it will have the dri errors
[08:35] <kalorin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9599/
[08:35] <devilsreject> order # 9598 :0)
[08:35] <mojo> kalorin: which one is it u pasted?
[08:35] <kalorin> 9599
[08:35] <Vaatix> The Computer's actual hard drive, I believe it's either hda or hda0.
[08:35] <j_> its a 4 gig windows partition i dont remeber the command
[08:35] <kalorin> that's the current Xorg.0.log
[08:35] <mojo> kalorin: running fglrx with broken dri, right?
[08:35] <kalorin> yeah
[08:35] <mojo> kalorin: okay.
[08:35] <j_> i dont know though wheather its hd0a or whatever it is
[08:36] <Jimmey> Vaatix, then create a mount point "sudo mkdir /media/hda" and then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda"
[08:37] <devilsreject> will i get the response in the chan
[08:37] <Vaatix> I installed Ubuntu on my External drive, but for some reason the thing put some of GRUB in the Primary Drive so It loads there instead. Whenever I boot up without the external drive it won't work. Alright Jimmey, a moment.
[08:37] <devilsreject> or where i posted
[08:37] <j_> well i know how to mount i just dont know wheather its hda0 or b or c thinking its probably b , but i want to make sure
[08:37] <K3nto> is there an app for linux (or windows) that can help to diagnose or fix a bad or corrupt HD?
[08:37] <kalorin> looks like it's actually only got 128megs of ram on it
[08:37] <lkthomas> does anyone using pentium III box ?
[08:37] <kalorin> (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kByte, Type: DDR3
[08:38] <kalorin> mojo, (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kByte, Type: DDR3
[08:38] <deadowl> Anyone know of a good alternative to Gaim or Kopete?
[08:38] <mojo> kalorin: oh, 128Mb then?
[08:38] <kalorin> looks that way I think
[08:38] <mojo> hmm...
[08:38] <Vaatix> Alright, I'm in.
[08:38] <devilsreject> can anybody help me with 9598
[08:39] <Jimmey> Vaatix, what's on your computer's hard drive?
[08:39] <devilsreject> when i double click a .deb file it i get that error
[08:39] <Vaatix> My Hard drive has Windows XP Media Center Edition, and I plan on keeping it, but I can't even get a boot screen without the External drive.
[08:39] <blanky> sorry devilsreject I forgot about you
[08:40] <blanky> devilsreject: that's an rpm not a deb
[08:40] <devilsreject> its kool
[08:40] <kalorin> mojo, looks like it's loading both drivers
[08:40] <kalorin> which is interesting
[08:40] <Vaatix> I need to be able to have the GRUB files on the hard drive and redirect whatever's making the thing boot from GRUB to point to them instead.
[08:40] <blanky> devilsreject: you want to install beryl or something?
[08:40] <devilsreject> rpm not deb :0) sorry
[08:40] <kalorin> I wonder if they're fighting
[08:40] <kalorin> :)
[08:40] <devilsreject> i have beryl installed
[08:40] <blanky> devilsreject: don't use rpm's to install beryl
[08:40] <blanky> devilsreject: so what's the problem?
[08:40] <devilsreject> im just tryin to get the burning menu option
[08:40] <Jimmey> Vaatix, well, what's happened is, Ubuntu's put GRUB on the MBR of your internal hard drive, overwriting Windows' bootloader. This means that the external hard drive _has_ to be plugged in for you to boot Windows, unless you restore Window's bootloader with a Windows CD
[08:40] <devilsreject> evidentally its in a package from the files on this ftp
[08:40] <devilsreject> i dl from
[08:40] <kalorin> mojo, look at line 1748 or so
[08:40] <j_> Jimmey: Do you know the command that veiws all the devices ?
[08:40] <mojo> kalorin: um, the fglrx driver is the only one referenced in the screen section that the server layout is using then it will be the only one loading.
[08:41] <devilsreject> it has all the packages on there i guess not just the ones i need
[08:41] <kalorin> ah
[08:41] <mojo> kalorin: the xorg log would show if the radeon stuff was loading up
[08:41] <Jimmey> j_: sudo fdisk -l
[08:41] <devilsreject> but theres sooo many i dont konw how to get it down to which one i need
[08:41] <blanky> devilsreject: Hey man, I honestly suggest you stay away from rpm's and dry to look for deb's instead to avoid accidentally messing up your system, but...
[08:41] <blanky> devilsreject: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:41] <j_> thanks
[08:41] <devilsreject> blanky whats alien?
[08:41] <blanky> just do it
[08:41] <Vaatix> I'm aware of that Jimmey, But I don't have the disk anymore, so I need to make sure the MBR points to the files inside the Hard Drive instead of my External Drive.
[08:41] <bodhizazen> Need help with the ubuntu wiki please
[08:41] <devilsreject> k
[08:41] <blanky> then sudo alien -d nameof.rpm
[08:41] <blanky> that will convert the rpm to a deb
[08:42] <blanky> but like I said dude
[08:42] <Vaatix> Doesn't do much good to have a Laptop if you have to keep it plugged in to something all the time.
[08:42] <bodhizazen> having trouble logging in ...
[08:42] <Jimmey> Vaatix, well the MBR points to your external hard drive in order to figure where everything is.
[08:42] <kalorin> brb
[08:42] <blanky> I highly discourage it and instead suggest you look for debs or alternate ways of solving this, try posting in the beryl forums or in ubuntuforums.org
[08:42] <mojo> kalorin: (EE) fglrx(0): [pcie]  Failed to gather memory of size 131072Kb for PCIe. Error .....at line 1697 is about your memroy, btw
[08:42] <devilsreject> blanky --- right on i wont do it then, i just want burning menus LOL
[08:42] <mojo> kalorin: (EE) fglrx(0): [pcie]  Failed to gather memory of size 131072Kb for PCIe. Error .....at line 1697 is about your memroy, btw
[08:42] <kalorin> ok so I took out the xinerama option and it doesn't seem to need it
[08:43] <blanky> devilsreject: you can try, I'm not saying it's definately going to mess up your system
[08:43] <blanky> I sometimes use it
[08:43] <kalorin> hrms..
[08:43] <kalorin> 128meg maybe it doesn't have?
[08:43] <blanky> devilsreject: but if you can find a deb that'd be better
[08:43] <kalorin> that's odd
[08:43] <Vaatix> Again, I know, but now I need to find out which Partition the MBR is and change it to point at the files on the Hard drive.
[08:43] <devilsreject> ahhh i just got stuff settled id hate to mess everything up over some stupid graphix stuff
[08:43] <kalorin> I'm sure it's got at least 128meg
[08:43] <mojo> kalorin: lines 1748 and thereafter say DRI is disabled...
[08:43] <kalorin> yeah
[08:43] <kalorin> well there's on that xinerma loads and it says that direct rendering is now disabled
[08:43] <kalorin> I forget which line
[08:43] <arooni> how do i 'please enable X shared memory config in XF86Config' (qsynaptics driver is asking me to do this)
[08:44] <kalorin> mojo, 1689
[08:44] <mojo> ==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: "fglrx_dri.so"
[08:44] <mojo> (**) fglrx(0): ATI GART size: 128 MB
[08:44] <mojo> (EE) fglrx(0): [pcie]  Failed to gather memory of size 131072Kb for PCIe. Error (
[08:44] <mojo> -1007)
[08:44] <deadowl> Well, I guess if no one has suggestions I'm going to have to weigh Kopete over Gaim, even though I hate KDE's name game.
[08:44] <zigovr> hi all, I have a small problem with the wifi connection, when the wifi router is restarted, the ubuntu box doesn't automatically reconnect (I can for example put it in suspend and then wake it then it reconnect), how can I tell it to reconnect automatically when it has lost the wifi connection ?
[08:45] <kalorin> mojo, is that the memory size of the board or the PCIE frame size in the bios?
[08:45] <kalorin> I think the frame size that he board supports is only 64m
[08:45] <kalorin> or something
[08:45] <rohinton> deadowl: trillian?
[08:45] <deadowl> been there
[08:45] <Jimmey> Vaatix, the files on the MRB are there to find /boot/grub/menu.lst, which then points to each hard drive. The MBR itself can't boot an OS
[08:45] <deadowl> lmao
[08:45] <mojo> kalorin: thinks so.... note line 1690 ... try booting w/o xinerama for a minute, since you've only one monitor in your server layout anyway
[08:45] <deadowl> way too heavy for me.
[08:45] <Helmi> deadowl: why is gaim bad? just asking cause i use it currently and heard some people speaking against it.
[08:45] <mojo> kalorin: um, screen that is
[08:46] <kalorin> I did take that option out at the screen
[08:46] <kalorin> and it booted fine
[08:46] <chavo> wow you'd not use an app because of the name thats hardcore man
[08:46] <genii> deadowl Well I like GAIM but it is just a suggestion LOL
[08:46] <kalorin> and I can still drag stuff back and forth
[08:46] <kalorin> I think cause it's set up "dual head" the ati driver loads it's own
[08:46] <deadowl> Well, I don't like it because the plugins always give me segmentation faults and the combo box for any GTK app looks ugly.
[08:46] <kalorin> notice in that log it says that it's already loaded so it isn't loading it again
[08:47] <genii> trillium I've had nothing but problems with plus it doesn't have a linux version and limited protocols in free version
[08:47] <Helmi> deadowl: ok, than my problem is i don't care about combo boxes probably :) didn't have any problems with plugins
[08:47] <mojo> kalorin: you had in your original xorg.conf the Xinerama = True... comment that out and try restarting x  (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from a virtual terminal when logged out of x session)
[08:47] <kalorin> yeah the new log says that it's initialized the in driver Xinerama
[08:47] <kalorin> I did
[08:47] <deadowl> I'm using kopete now, it seems like having to look at two icons for everyone beats all of the other things.
[08:48] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/var/log$ grep Xinerama Xorg.0.log
[08:48] <kalorin> (II) fglrx(0): Initialized in-driver Xinerama extension
[08:48] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/var/log$
[08:48] <Vaatix> Alright Jimmey, GRUB is basicly in two places. When I turn on the computer without my External Drive, it doesn't give me an 'Error 21'.
[08:48] <kalorin> that's in the log no
[08:48] <mojo> kalorin: am i not seeing the most recent log on pastebin then?
[08:48] <kalorin> now
[08:48] <arooni> how do i 'please enable X shared memory config in XF86Config' (qsynaptics driver is asking me to do this)
[08:48] <kalorin> I pulled that and restarted a minute ago
[08:48] <kalorin> that's the only change though
[08:48] <mojo> kalorin: and it goes on stating that dri is disabled right after that?
[08:49] <kalorin> now instead of saying it's ignoring it on line 1764 it's using the in driver version
[08:49] <kalorin> yeah
[08:49] <Vaatix> I was told that if I copy over the /boot/grub/ files from my External Drive to one on the Primary Drive, then redirect the stuff on the Primary drive to point at it's own files that It would solve things.
[08:49] <blanky> devilsreject: try asking in the beryl forums, ask if they have a deb package for it, or if it's in the repositories
[08:49] <kalorin> it's a little odd
[08:49] <mojo> try explicit  ' Option "NoDRI"  "No" '  in the display driver section
[08:50] <kalorin> how would that fix the DRI rendering failing though?
[08:50] <Vaatix> Now does it automatically look, so it'd look for files on itself first, or would it only go to one place and if it doesn't find it then it quits?
[08:50] <deadowl> You know what I really hate, IM Services not looking for a standard protocol
[08:50] <ant> mojo is determined...
[08:50] <mojo> kalorin: good point
[08:50] <kalorin> :)
[08:50] <kalorin> it's 3am but I'm still awake!
[08:50] <deadowl> AIM (nope), MSN (nope), Yahoo (nope)
[08:50] <kalorin> heh
[08:50] <mojo> ant: yeah it's the years on a helpdesk that do it to me
[08:51] <mojo> kalorin might actually rather sleep
[08:51] <kalorin> well I'm hurting for sleep for sure
[08:51] <kalorin> but this is one of those puzzles
[08:51] <Jimmey> Vaatix, what that means is you'd have to have a small partition that GRUB can read on your primary drive to contain the menu.lst, then you'd have to setup grub's files in the MBR to point to that menu.lst
[08:51] <mojo> yeah, that keeps you up at night, lol
[08:51] <kalorin> what I'm thinking is that maybe I just stick with the fglrx driver then
[08:51] <jamin3d> can someone give me help on how to get the 'add-remove programs' onto the Applications list.  it was there on the liveCD, but now i'm on my 1st bootup after installing ubuntu, and add-remove programs is not there anymore
[08:51] <kalorin> which means I have to compile that kernel module and get it to load
[08:52] <srbaker> folks
[08:52] <srbaker> i put ubuntu pon my macbook
[08:52] <srbaker> how do i get a right click?
[08:52] <srbaker> i'd like ot make option or cmd-click the right click
[08:52] <mojo> kalorin: yes... if you have the build environment and the kernel headers, then you can force the ubuntu-supplied version to not load but i forget whree you exclude it at the top of my head... it is, um,,, hang on..
[08:53] <Vaatix> Exactly. The Primary drive is made up completely of three FAT32 partitions, I just need to know where things are so I can transfer and redirect.
[08:53] <mojo> kalorin: if you run the ati installer it should compile the driver but you may easily still end up loading the ubuntu supplied one, which will be out of sync...
[08:53] <kalorin> well I built it all before
[08:53] <Vaatix> I believe I found the MBR.bin file.
[08:53] <kalorin> yeah it made me some .deb files
[08:53] <kalorin> and then I installed them
[08:54] <Jimmey> Vaatix, then put the contents of /boot/grub/ onto one of the fat drives, then in Ubuntu, type "sudo grub", wait for the prompt, then "root (hd0,1)", then "setup hd0"
[08:54] <Pooky> Can someone recommend a good gtk/gnome network managing utility for edgy. I have three of four spots I go to , and some require me to have static ip's, and I've yet to find a solution that lets me easily do either, that works. network-admin seems to be the closest except, it hangs from time to time, and then my wireless is totally broken.
[08:54] <kalorin> ah I remember this mess it was really stupid too
[08:54] <kalorin> cause Ubuntu isn't supported right out of the box
[08:55] <shatrat> Pooky, have you tried network-manager-gnome? I liked it when i had a laptop
[08:55] <K3nto> does somebody know how to fix/diagnose a possibly corrupt ipod HD
[08:55] <ant> Pooky: how bout wifi-radar?
[08:55] <deadowl> Does anybody thinks Steve Jobs is weird?
[08:56] <Jimmey> Who;s that
[08:56] <ant> ha
[08:56] <shatrat> deadowl, not as wierd as richard stallman
[08:56] <Orfeous> NFS refuses to work :(
[08:56] <mojo> kalorin: you need to change a config that excepts linux-restricted-modules  from putting in the ubuntu supplied fglrx.ko, but i can't seem to find where that is.  you should use apt to uninstall the ubuntu drivers completely before running the ati build install
[08:56] <ojk007> !beryl
[08:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <jamin3d> 2 (can someone give me help on how to get the 'add-remove programs' onto the Applications list.  it was there on the liveCD, but now i'm on my 1st bootup after installing ubuntu, and add-remove programs is not there anymore)
[08:56] <deadowl> I think richard stallman just has an ego issue.
[08:56] <Pooky> ant: I like wifi radar, but then I can't manage my wire interface
[08:56] <srbaker> please, someone
[08:57] <kalorin> the ubuntu drivers
[08:57] <srbaker> i need a right mouse click
[08:57] <kalorin> xserver-xorg-ati?
[08:57] <Firefly> can somebody pm me who wants to help me install 6.10 with my radeo 9600?
[08:57] <kalorin> or the fglrx ones?
[08:57] <mojo> kalorin: no, xserver-xorg-fglrx
[08:57] <deadowl> stallman's ego is the weirdest thing ever conceived by DNA.
[08:57] <mojo> (i think)
[08:57] <Pooky> shatrat, I like network manager, except it doesn't scan for hotspots, and t only handles wifi
[08:57] <Pooky> I need something that does wifi and ethernet.
[08:57] <c0nv1ct> mojo: are you trying to get his old ubuntu supplied kernel module to stop loading?
[08:57] <mojo> xserver-xorg-ati is the opensource stuff, no problems with it still being installed
[08:57] <Pooky> I'm needy, :P
[08:57] <kalorin> mojo, can't find it
[08:57] <mojo> c0nv1ct: exactly
[08:57] <arooni_> hey folks
[08:57] <kalorin> ok 3am I gotta give up on this
[08:57] <kalorin> sorry
[08:58] <kalorin> mojo, thanks a ton for all the help
[08:58] <deadowl> holy cow
[08:58] <kalorin> sorry I'm a faiulre
[08:58] <deadowl> it's 3?
[08:58] <kalorin> failure
[08:58] <deadowl> shit
[08:58] <deadowl> (pardon)
[08:58] <arooni_> im having loads of trouble trying to get my synaptics touchpad to allower vertical, horizontal, or even circular scroll... help?
[08:58] <kalorin> maybe I'll try again tomorrow night or something
[08:58] <c0nv1ct> mojo: its in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[08:58] <deadowl> there's a circular scroll?
[08:58] <mojo> kalorin: sure...  when you tackle again, look up the linux-restricted-modules stuff and
[08:58] <deadowl> My touchpad wasn't even built for that, but I do it.
[08:58] <mojo> kalorin: follow c0nv1ct 's advice, look there
[08:59] <iamsam9895> How do I blacklist something?
[08:59] <c0nv1ct> kalorin: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and put the name of the module u dont want to load in DISABLED_MODULES=
[08:59] <kalorin> yeah
[08:59] <kalorin> i see ath_hal
[08:59] <kalorin> fc fglrx
[08:59] <Firefly> is there a patch i can add to my 6.10 iso to make it work with my radeo 9600?
[08:59] <kalorin> so I should do fglrx?
[08:59] <carpediem> iamsam9895: what, a module?
[08:59] <c0nv1ct> kalorin: if thats the old module, then yes
[08:59] <K3nto> !limewire
[08:59] <mojo> kalorin: add the line DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"  to that file
[08:59] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:59] <sikor_sxe> hello, i have a problem on edgy. it seems that all wizards are broken in the openoffice-base package. is this a known problem?
[09:00] <K3nto> !frostwire
[09:00] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:00] <iamsam9895> carpedeim, A driver
[09:00] <srbaker> motherucking christ
[09:00] <Frogzoo> kalorin: what's your vid card?
[09:00] <srbaker> all i need is a damned right click
[09:00] <srbaker> oh and NetworkManager
[09:00] <kalorin> ati radeon x700
[09:00] <mojo> kalorin: that should prevent the ubuntu supplied one from getting in, and you can use lsmod to see if the ati one (or any one) manages to get loaded.
[09:00] <Frogzoo> srbaker: potty mouth
[09:00] <mojo> kalorin: good luck brother
[09:00] <carpediem> iamsam9895: yeah, same thing.  look at the blacklist files in /etc/modprobe.d
[09:00] <iamsam9895> Heh, I think I'm doing the same thing as kalorin
[09:01] <mojo> srbaker: that would imply that christ had children or slept with other men's babymommas
[09:01] <z9999> We installed qsynaptics for control of our touchpada few days ago, and it ran fine, but today we tried to run it again and encountered the following in a box:
[09:01] <ant> Firefly: get ready for a fight.
[09:01] <arooni_> im having loads of trouble trying to get my synaptics touchpad to allower vertical, horizontal, or even circular scroll... help?
[09:01] <z9999> detected information:
[09:01] <z9999> XFree86: any Synaptics: none
[09:01] <z9999> Version:         Version:
[09:01] <z9999> please install the synaptics touchpad driver!
[09:01] <Frogzoo> kalorin: and what do you want your vid card to do? just 3d? no beryl?
[09:01] <z9999> please enable X shared memory config in XF86Config
[09:01] <z9999> The synaptic package manager shows synaptic version 0.57.8ubuntu13 installed.
[09:01] <z9999> We don't have any idea how to enable x Shared memory in XF86Config.
[09:01] <z9999> Can someone help us repair this problem?
[09:01] <Vaatix> Jimmey, after I typed 'root (hd0,1)' it did nothing, and I recieved an error after putting in 'setup hd0'.
[09:01] <Frogzoo> !enter | z9999
[09:01] <ubotu> z9999: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:01] <carpediem> z9999: please don't do that, use pastebin
[09:01] <kalorin> Frogzoo, well I just want to not get the DRI- disabled messages
[09:01] <kalorin> I'll be around though
[09:01] <kalorin> right now I just want to sleep
[09:01] <kalorin> :)
[09:02] <Jimmey> Vaatix, you need to make sure that the device strings are correct. What of Grub's files did you put onto the fat partition?
[09:02] <kalorin> i'd be fine iwth using the opensource drivers but I've got fglrx installed already and so the config's a mess with both in it in places
[09:02] <discord> anyone help me set my path or classpath for java? I changed the /etc/profile but it isn't working when i launch a new shell in gnome-terminal
[09:02] <Madpilot> z9999, how did you install qsynaptics? I'm not sure why an Ubuntu package would be looking for something as old as XFree86...
[09:02] <Vaatix> I copied all the files from the /grub/ directory.
[09:02] <kalorin> discord, /etc/environment
[09:02] <Jimmey> Vaatix, you want to make sure that "\boot\grub" is at the base of whichever partition you put it on
[09:02] <kalorin> no idea why ubuntu doesn't honor bash profiles and stuff
[09:03] <iamsam9895> So wait, I'm still confused about how to blacklist fglrx.
[09:03] <Jimmey> Like C:\boot\grub, or whatever, Vaatix
[09:03] <kalorin> nighty all
[09:03] <kalorin> thanks again mojo, I'll see ya around
[09:03] <Vaatix> It's in the root of hda1.
[09:03] <carpediem> iamsam9895: did you look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[09:03] <mojo> kalorin: peace
[09:03] <z9999> Madpilot: We just used the package mgr to install it.
[09:03] <kalorin> I guess I could uninstall all the drivers
[09:03] <iamsam9895> Yes
[09:03] <Jimmey> Vaatix, what does "find /boot/grub/stage1" say
[09:04] <kalorin> then config it to just do vesa and work from there
[09:04] <kalorin> ick
[09:04] <carpediem> iamsam9895: and you are unclear about what?
[09:04] <kalorin> now i'm going to be laying in bed thinking about this
[09:04] <kalorin> blah
[09:04] <iamsam9895> carpedeim, What do I do in that file?
[09:04] <kalorin> night
[09:04] <iamsam9895> just add it?
[09:04] <carpediem> iamsam9895: don't you already have some blacklists in there?
[09:04] <Vaatix> hd1,0
[09:04] <Vaatix> Is what it said.
[09:04] <iamsam9895> Yes.
[09:05] <carpediem> iamsam9895: so, just use them as an example of what you need to do
[09:05] <iamsam9895> Oh, ok.
[09:05] <iamsam9895> Thanks.
[09:05] <Jimmey> Vaatix, is your external HD connected?
[09:05] <Vaatix> It is.
[09:05] <Jimmey> Vaatix, is it hd1,0 by any chance?
[09:05] <mojo> kalorin: i am usually the mojo in here, as i enforce my nick rights ;)
[09:06] <Vaatix> Linux is installed on the External Drive, so I can't remove it. I don't know if it's hd1, but there is an hda1 file in the /dev/ folder.
[09:06] <mojo> kalorin: gnite
[09:06] <nalioth> Vaatix: is the drive plugged in now?
[09:06] <Vaatix> It is
[09:07] <nalioth> Vaatix: open a console and type "sudo fdisk -l" <enter>
[09:07] <Vaatix> What does fdisk mean again?
[09:07] <nalioth> Vaatix: i have no clue
[09:07] <Vaatix> If it's formatting, then I'll have to avoid it.
[09:08] <Vaatix> Err, you have no clue...?
[09:08] <ant> fdsik does more than just format
[09:08] <Jimmey> Vaatix, fdisk -l will...Show the drive layout
[09:08] <Jimmey> Nothing more
[09:08] <nalioth> Vaatix: i don't know the "exact" reason it's named "fdisk"
[09:08] <nicko1> hello everyone..and thanks again for helping me partitioning my hd..now i'm finnally running ubuntu. I do have a question, how can I make a shortcut on the desktop so when I click it it will run a command in the terminal? thanks again
[09:09] <TEST011> Hey I know this really doesn't apply to this room but I couldn't find another room really relating to it, but does anyone have any suggestions on what a decent non-linear video editing app would be for linux?
[09:10] <globe> exit
[09:10] <poningru> TEST011: kino
[09:10] <globe> exit
[09:10] <TEST011> Thanks.
[09:10] <TEST011> I'll look it up
[09:10] <discord> kalorin: does editing /etc/environment supposed to take place immeadiatly because i opened another term and typed env but it still didn't show the updated classpah env setting
[09:10] <arooni> is there a way of adjusting the brightness on my sony vaio laptopy?  the function keys dont work
[09:10] <Jimmey> TEST011, www.google.com/linux - Try cinelerra also
[09:11] <Pooky> anyone know what package network-admin comes from?
[09:11] <Vaatix> Jimmey, I just keep getting syntax errors.
[09:11] <damiano> did anybody worked out to disable touchpad on ubuntu edgy without the Ctrl-Alt-F1 workaround?
[09:11] <TEST011> Jimmey: Thanks.
[09:11] <nicko1> how can I make a shortcut on the desktop so when I click it it will run a command in the terminal?
[09:12] <z9999> Anyone know where to enable shared memory?
[09:12] <t35t0r> z9999, what do you mean by shared memory
[09:12] <mojo> discord: i think kalorin went to bed and just didn't log out
[09:12] <Vaatix> Alright, redid it and got /dev/hda /dev/hda1 to hda3.
[09:13] <damiano> touchpas
[09:13] <DuRk_> Come check out my friend Fat Man showcasing his supreme fatness -- http://www.fatman.tk
[09:13] <t35t0r> don't go to that website
[09:13] <t35t0r> it probably has a javascript hack
[09:13] <mojo> Pooky: apt-cache search network-admin ?
[09:13] <DuRk_> it's not.
[09:14] <ant> who wants to see a fatman anyways..
[09:14] <Vaatix> Jesus I hope I can still run windows by now, so much has been screwed around with...
[09:14] <t35t0r> you just went into gentoo and did the same thing
[09:14] <ant> you should use something more enticing
[09:14] <t35t0r> if i had ops i would ban you instantly
[09:14] <DuRk_> so?
[09:14] <DuRk_> i'm advertising
[09:14] <DuRk_> it's a good site
[09:14] <DuRk_> good videos
[09:14] <DuRk_> great guy
[09:14] <z9999> t35t0r: Error msg reads please enable X shared memory in XF86Config.
[09:14] <shatrat> DuRk_, youre annoying, and it isnt.
[09:14] <K3nto> is frostwore ok?
[09:14] <blanky> yep
[09:14] <blanky> and it has a deb
[09:14] <mojo> t35t0r: it's probably a bot  ;)
[09:15] <blanky> www.frostwire.com
[09:15] <mojo> nevermind... it speaketh
[09:15] <t35t0r> z9999, there's a module called xshmn
[09:15] <t35t0r> z9999, there's a module called xshm
[09:16] <nicko1> help anyone?
[09:16] <t35t0r> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+please+enable+X+shared+memory&btnG=Search
[09:17] <t35t0r> nicko1, gnome ?
[09:17] <nicko1> yes
[09:17] <t35t0r> nicko1, checking ..
[09:17] <mojo> K3nto: i used to use Frostwire but recently it stopped working for me... i have not taken time to investigate what is amiss tho, but when it worked it was nice
[09:17] <nicko1> t35t0r: ubuntu edgy
[09:17] <K3nto> k
[09:18] <t35t0r> nicko1, right click -> create launcher
[09:18] <mojo> K3nto: there is also mldonkey which is in the repos but it may be a challenge
[09:18] <z9999> t35t0r: xshm? And what do we do with it?
[09:18] <t35t0r> z9999, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+please+enable+X+shared+memory&btnG=Search
[09:18] <nicko1> t35t0r: and then? i did that..but can't figure out how to launch a command
[09:19] <t35t0r> nicko1, what icon are you trying to create
[09:19] <Jimmey> What's /dev/hda1 in Grub-speak?
[09:19] <Jimmey> hd0,1?
[09:19] <nicko1> t35t0r: icon? no icon, just creating a terminal command shortcut
[09:19] <t35t0r> setup (hd0,0)
[09:19] <t35t0r> gnome-terminal
[09:21] <ant> nicko1: its going to be dependent on your terminal emulator
[09:21] <ant> nicko1: probly going to be xterm
[09:21] <ant> nicko1: look at the man pages
[09:22] <aimee> someone please help
[09:22] <t35t0r> don't use xterm
[09:22] <t35t0r> aimee, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:22] <K3nto> why do some applications like frostwire not come up in the database in ubuntu? like add/remove or synaptic
[09:22] <aimee> i am new to ubuntu
[09:22] <ant> i use eterm, whats wrong with xterm?
[09:22] <nicko1> ant: what I want to run is "gksudo nautilus" with a shortcut
[09:22] <t35t0r> it's not user friendly but go ahead if you want
[09:23] <cable_guy> hi
[09:23] <nicko1> ant: but can't get it
[09:23] <cable_guy> not sure this is the right place to ask but i've tried everywhere
[09:23] <cable_guy> i have a problem with games in wine
[09:23] <t35t0r> !games
[09:23] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:23] <discord> anybody know about setting environment variables in ubuntu?
[09:23] <aimee> and i want to use pogo to play games, downloaded the java
[09:23] <cable_guy> whenever i go full screen the system locks up
[09:23] <ant> nicko1: i have had that problem, give me a sec
[09:23] <t35t0r> discord, export variable="value"
[09:23] <discord> is there a man page for /etc/environment or something like that
[09:23] <cable_guy> playing in a window is the only way around it
[09:24] <lisapc> i was downloading ubuntu image as torrent using Azuerus and it is 92% complete, but now all of a sudden speed dropped to 1.2Kb/s.  What causes that to happen?
[09:24] <t35t0r> put it in ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
[09:24] <t35t0r> /etc/profile is globa
[09:24] <cable_guy> any idea what's wrong?
[09:24] <t35t0r> lisapc, less people have the end of the file
[09:25] <aimee> im having that same problem cable guy
[09:25] <cable_guy> aimee, that's so strange
[09:25] <lisapc> t35t0r so what shall I do now?
[09:25] <t35t0r> wait
[09:25] <ant> nicko1: are you using xterm?
[09:25] <lisapc> t35t0r it says 14 hours to complete :P
[09:26] <t35t0r> lisapc, what are you downloading ?
[09:26] <nicko1> ant:gnome-terminal
[09:26] <lisapc> t35t0r so is this common to happen?
[09:26] <aimee> well i was actually playing on a site lets me make one move then freezes
[09:26] <t35t0r> lisapc, yes
[09:26] <lisapc> t35t0r ubuntu
[09:26] <nicko1> ant: is it something as "gnome-terminal gksudo nautilus"?
[09:26] <t35t0r> lisapc, why don;'t you just download the iso from a site?
[09:26] <lisapc> t35t0r so we can download a torrent and at 95% it drops to 1.2Kb/s?
[09:26] <t35t0r> yes
[09:27] <lisapc> t35t0r it offers torrent so I assumed it was faster
[09:27] <t35t0r> torrent is not always faster
[09:27] <aimee> i got ubuntu because it was supposed to be better than windows....
[09:27] <blind> it depends on who's seeding.
[09:27] <Shaffox> hi
[09:27] <ant> nicko1: most likely, but there might be a switch to run a command
[09:27] <lisapc> t35t0r so it can take days to complete?  and what if the other users delete the file?  does that mean I can get to 99% and then lose the file?
[09:27] <blind> aimee: and it is, in some people's opinions
[09:27] <lisapc> aimee thats relative
[09:27] <Shaffox> my grub isn't working good anymore, anyone an idea how to fix it ?
[09:27] <aimee> but i am not a programmer or anything just want to play my game...lol
[09:28] <c0nv1ct> aimee: "better" has to be referenced by something
[09:28] <t35t0r> lisapc, heh learn how bittorent works
[09:28] <aimee> well...it had more educational stuff for my daughter
[09:28] <lisapc> t35t0r so u never use it?
[09:28] <t35t0r> lisapc, no
[09:28] <aimee> and it took up less memory
[09:28] <WorldDomination> hey
[09:29] <aimee> so that is better in my opinion
[09:29] <lisapc> t35t0r it says seeds 5 (7) and peers 1 (3). whats that mean?
[09:29] <aimee> but i just dont know how to do anything
[09:29] <nicko1> can't get this thing to work...
[09:29] <t35t0r> other peoeple downloading from
[09:29] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what site are you trying to play games on?
[09:29] <aimee> pogo
[09:29] <ant> nicko1: use gnome-terminal -e <command>
[09:29] <lisapc> t35t0r whats seeds?
[09:29] <aimee> i feel so stupid
[09:29] <lisapc> t35t0r so u never use torrent?  what else can we use then?
[09:29] <t35t0r> seeds are things you plant
[09:29] <ant> nicko1: the -e runs a command
[09:30] <t35t0r> lisapc, just download the iso
[09:30] <lisapc> aimee stupity is relative
[09:30] <c0nv1ct> aimee: dont feel stupid, i've had tons of problems with java, its not you
[09:30] <saw2434> Is there a way to tell what video you card you have once you're running ubuntu??
[09:30] <lisapc> t35t0r what else you use to dowmnload other dstuff?
[09:30] <t35t0r> lspci | grep -i vga
[09:30] <t35t0r> lisapc, uhhh firefox?
[09:30] <lisapc> t35t0r LOL
[09:30] <aimee> cool cause i downloaded the java and still cant figure it out
[09:30] <aimee> any ideas
[09:31] <nicko1> ant: it doesn't work..
[09:31] <ant> nicko1: then try -x <command>
[09:31] <K3nto> LordLimecat: hey i got my ipod perfected :D
[09:31] <c0nv1ct> aimee: try installing JRE using your package manager
[09:31] <ant> nicko1: type man gnome-terminal for full useage of gnome terminal.
[09:31] <discord> whats the prolem aimee ?
[09:31] <Shaffox> i have 2 seperate harddisks, i had windows and ubuntu, now i put ubuntu in stead of windows and grub is not working anymore, it doesn't reckognize the ubuntu on hdb, how to fix this ?
[09:32] <t35t0r> grub.sf.net
[09:32] <t35t0r> err
[09:32] <saw2434>  Is there a way to tell what video you card you have once you're running ubuntu??
[09:32] <t35t0r> gag.sf.net
[09:32] <t35t0r> lspci | grep -i vga
[09:33] <nicko1> ant: thank you..the -x without the < > worked perfectly
[09:33] <ant> ;] 
[09:33] <aimee> c0nv1ct i dont see JRE
[09:33] <t35t0r> jdk
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> aimee: in Synaptic, search for jre, and you will see sun-java6-jre
[09:34] <aimee> discord i cant run games on pogo
[09:34] <t35t0r> lisapc, what's so funny
[09:34] <blind> aimee: i had that problem. it's easily fixed.
[09:34] <aimee> c0nv1ct i have sun java 5 but not six
[09:34] <discord> aimee whats pogo, pogo linux?
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> aimee: 5 will work, i'm sure
[09:34] <blind> aimee: i'm going to tell you how to fix it.
[09:35] <blind> discord: pogo is a game site.
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> discord: its one of those free websites for java based games
[09:35] <discord> aimee: http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx
[09:35] <aimee> i know....but lol i am a dang member
[09:35] <xerophyte> does anybody know any good GUI Lightweight Web Browsers for Linux ? when i open around 5 firefox windows its kill my desktop i read a lot so i need so many window ?
[09:36] <blind> aimee: there's an easier way to do it than on that site.
[09:36] <aimee> blind oh cool
[09:36] <c0nv1ct> xerophyte: why arent you using tabs?
[09:36] <t35t0r> opera, konqueror, elinks (with -g)
[09:36] <ant> opera's the lightest i think
[09:36] <blind> aimee: find libjavaplugin_oji.so and put it in your /home/yourname/.mozilla/plugins folder.
[09:36] <ant> but less functions of course
[09:36] <xerophyte> c0nv1ct, i use tabs too :) 5 windows with + 10 tabs
[09:36] <aimee> where the heck is that
[09:37] <blind> aimee: do a search for it.
[09:37] <Flannel> xerophyte: dillo
[09:37] <aimee> im sorry....this is my first day speak slowly and use small words...lol
[09:37] <blind> aimee: sudo updatedb && locate libjavaplugin
[09:37] <blind> (from a terminal)
[09:37] <Flannel> ant: opera?  lightest?  hah.  It's a whole suite
[09:37] <Vaatix> Ahoy. What's the command for the GUI version of sudo?
[09:37] <c0nv1ct> xerophyte: lol, what the hell are you doing that requires 50 webpages up at once?
[09:37] <ant> he wants tabs
[09:38] <Flannel> Vaatix: gksu
[09:38] <Vaatix> Thanks. I'm about to reboot in hopes of fixing things.
[09:38] <xerophyte> c0nv1ct, i support for company .. i code with php too .. 1(code reference), 1(helpdesk), 1(my wiki refernce), 1(fun stuff)
[09:39] <dimeotane> will ubuntu be able to handle the new Daylight savings time thing tomorrow?
[09:39] <aimee> blind: just gives me a rectangle and then a whole lot of stuff
[09:39] <blind> aimee: a rectangle? O_o
[09:39] <Flannel> dimeotane: If you're up to date, yeah.  You can test with: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
[09:39] <aimee> blind: and then a whole list of plugins
[09:39] <mojo> saw2434: try lspci to list pci devices
[09:39] <Vaatix> Flannel, what's the rest? To open up the window?
[09:40] <blind> aimee: where? in the terminal?
[09:40] <aimee> blind: yes
[09:40] <Flannel> Vaatix: What?  That is the whole thing.  "gksu [your program] "
[09:40] <blind> can you pastebin the output for me?
[09:40] <Vaatix> I plan on opening up a window, what program do I use for that?
[09:41] <mojo> saw2434: but knowing which card and divining which driver are different.  are you running in graphics mode?  (gnome/kde or the like?)
[09:41] <aimee> blind:yes if you tell me how
[09:41] <blind> Vaatix: what kind of window?
[09:41] <z9999> t35t0r: Thanks, but no solution found, any ideas or anyone else able to help clearing this problem?
[09:41] <blind> aimee: copy&paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:41] <aimee> blind: i am so sorry to be taking your time with stupid problem
[09:41] <Vaatix> Just a normal window to browse.
[09:41] <kaiwai> hi
[09:41] <mojo> aimee: getting help is sorta the whole point of this channel... :)
[09:41] <blind> aimee: it's not a stupid problem, and in fact it bothered me for days
[09:41] <Flannel> Vaatix: Browse?  browse what?  A window of what?
[09:41] <Vaatix> But it has all the permissions enabled.
[09:42] <Vaatix> A File Browser
[09:42] <blind> try nautilus?
[09:42] <kaiwai> I've got a HDA-Intel sound card on my laptop, however, the sound isn't stereo, its only coming out one speaker :(
[09:42] <Flannel> Vaatix: `gksu nautilus`  But, just randomly doing it for the heck of it isn't a smart thing.
[09:42] <Vaatix> Thaaat's the one. I'm not doing it for the heck of it, don't worry.
[09:42] <Vaatix> Right now I'll be rebooting to see if the problem's been fixed
[09:43] <Vaatix> If it hasn't, then I'll need to make sure I have the commands for when I come back in.
[09:43] <blind> Rebooting? What problem in linux has to be resolved by rebooting?
[09:43] <saw2434> mojo: I think I am running in graphics mode
[09:43] <kaiwai> *kaiwai waves his hands around*
[09:43] <ant> kaiwai: sounds like a driver issue
[09:43] <Orfeous> hmm..
[09:43] <Orfeous> evolution: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9601/
[09:43] <aimee> blind: this says i need a password
[09:43] <blind> aimee: what does?
[09:43] <arooni> ubuntu's battery life predictions are *horrible*; it gives me a 6 minutes left warning when i have 65% left
[09:44] <arooni> anyway to make this better?
[09:44] <excusemehi> guys i have a really quick question noobish one actually. how do i update my flash player?
[09:44] <mojo> saw2434: so are you having a problem or just want a way to identify your hardware?
[09:44] <blind> excusemehi: from what to what?
[09:44] <aimee> the paste thing
[09:44] <t35t0r> install netscape-flash v9
[09:44] <excusemehi> the latest flash player
[09:44] <blind> aimee: a.. password?
[09:44] <aimee> yes
[09:44] <saw2434> Well I attempted to begin installation of beryl earlier using a wikipedia tutorial
[09:44] <kaiwai> found the cure
[09:45] <blind> aimee: it doesn't ask me for a password... O_o try http://dpaste.com
[09:45] <mojo> saw2434: the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file will show output from the drivers that X.Org (x windows) server is using for your video card, and probably info on the model too.  the lspci command will tell you about pci, pcie, and agp video cards it finds (along with other hardware)
[09:45] <Flannel> excusemehi: Assuming you've installed the normal flash, go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for flash in the appropriate -backports repository, go to the package page, scroll down, download the .deb file, then install it (with dpkg -i [file] )
[09:45] <ant> kaiwai: what was it? volume balance.. heh
[09:45] <Gartral> synaptic package manager isnt working, it looks like its gonna load, but right before it displays the packages it dosnt crash it just exits, no warning just... gone
[09:45] <arooni> is there a good battery monitor
[09:45] <arooni> better than built in one for ubuntu?
[09:45] <kaiwai> options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=3stack position_fix=0 single_cmd=0
[09:46] <kaiwai> add that to alsa-base
[09:46] <excusemehi> thx flannel i'll give that a go
[09:46] <aimee> blind: okay it is pasted
[09:46] <philip> I need some tips regarding xorg.conf, 3 lines below:
[09:46] <mojo> Gartral: try opening a terminal and launching Synaptic from there by typint sudo synaptic... that way you get the error output to the terminal
[09:46] <blind> aimee: i need a link, please
[09:46] <philip>  Option "Clone" "true"
[09:46] <philip>         Screen 0        "Default Screen"
[09:46] <philip>         Screen 1        "Second Screen" Above "Default Screen"
[09:47] <Flannel> mojo, Gartral, gksu synaptic, not sudo
[09:47] <philip> I need screen 1 to be a clone of screen 0, not be "above"
[09:47] <mojo> Flannel: oh, well... sure :)
[09:47] <Gartral> i did... no output, and synaptic did its same thing
[09:47] <aimee> blind: i pasted it to dpaste.com
[09:47] <Xenguy> !gksu
[09:47] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[09:47] <saw2434> mojo: I did the lspsi and it told mentioned a Nvidia geforce2, which I assume is my graphics card? (i'm very new to all of this)
[09:47] <blind> aimee: yes, but i need the link. i have no way to tell which is your paste.
[09:47] <aimee> oh crud
[09:47] <Flannel> Gartral: Try reinstalling synaptic.  You can use aptitude in the meantime (it has a curses based GUI)
[09:47] <arooni> is there a way of getting widgets
[09:48] <mojo> Flannel: it works with sudo tho, fyi
[09:48] <arooni> os X style
[09:48] <aimee> blind: 6642
[09:48] <mojo> saw2434: that is probably correct.
[09:48] <mojo> saw2434: so you want to follow the nvidia info in the howto's you're reading
[09:48] <Flannel> mojo: It may "work", but that doesn't mean it isn't causing problems.  Graphical programs get gksu.
[09:48] <adrian_> Hello!
[09:48] <mojo> Flannel: point taken.
[09:49] <Gartral> ok, it worked with gksu
[09:49] <kaiwai> off to reboot, and hopefully it'll work ok
[09:49] <kaiwai> *fingers crossed*
[09:49] <aimee> blind:  was that the right link
[09:49] <Gartral> now, how do i fix the gui icons?
[09:49] <kaiwai> *offers penguin deity an offering*
[09:49] <realname> hey, do you know that if I copy the dir ~/.mozilla-thunderbird if I copy _all_ settings and mails?
[09:49] <blind> aimee: type in terminal ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/yourname/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so    ((replace "yourname" with your username))
[09:49] <mojo> Gartral: well it wasn't supposed to work ;)  was hoping it would fail and give you some output to the terminal to help debug... if it works from gksu then can you close it and try it from the menu again?  does it work there too or is that still broken?
[09:49] <adrian_> need some help with changing the background behind the splashscreen when wntering the system
[09:50] <kishore> is linux-2.6.20.2 different from linux-source-2.6.20.2
[09:50] <Flannel> realname: all your settings, not mails.  Depending on where you're putting your mail (I believe default is ~/Maildir)
[09:50] <kishore> some one help me out in compiling kernel
[09:50] <kishore> ubotu, kernel
[09:50] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:50] <realname> thanks Flannel
[09:50] <Flannel> realname: Thunderbird should have somethingin the options as to where to store mail, and that'll tell you where it's hiding them
[09:51] <Gartral> hello? how do i fix my icons so synaptic dosnt crash?
[09:51] <Ademan> is there any way to flash your BIOS from a linux liveCD?
[09:51] <kishore> i ve dloaded is linux-2.6.20.2.tar.bz2 from kernel.org
[09:51] <adrian_> any1 know how to change the background behind the splashscreen upon start up?
[09:52] <Ademan> kishore: why are you recompiling your kernel?
[09:52] <Gartral> if your messing with your kernel, be shure you backup your old ones
[09:52] <saw2434> mojo: alright...I'm pretty sure I did that earlier, I attempted to install the "3d nvidia video card Driver" by installing nvidia-glx-legacey and nvidia-settings.. after i enabled that I restarted and I couldn't boot ubuntu normally
[09:52] <kishore> Ademan, just to experiment
[09:52] <birdmun> Ademan there is the possibility to make a bootable cd w/ freedos and put your new bios update on it
[09:52] <Ademan> adrian_: you mean that has like "metacity, desktop, package manager" or something like that
[09:52] <kishore> Ademan, till now i didnt compile i also donno how to compile
[09:53] <jakoblaursen> I can't get any program packages
[09:53] <realname> Flannel: I think I can't find that option in thunderbird
[09:53] <kishore> Ademan, so i ve dloaded latest versio and trieng to do so !!
[09:53] <saw2434> mojo: so i was just making sure my video card is capable of handling it
[09:53] <Ademan> birdmun: ah, so there's no linux utility for that? only dos?
[09:53] <mojo> saw2434: i am not that familiar with the nvidia stuff... i do have beryl running but it is on ati hardware.  i have a used nvidia quadro 4 i picked up the other day that i am gonna play with this weekend, though.  seems like a nice board but i can't find much info on it
[09:54] <adrian_> Ademan: I mean the brown, default, background, which is still on display even though I changed splashscreen
[09:54] <birdmun> im a noob but i used freedos and a floppy to update the bios on an old system i have here
[09:54] <realname> Flannel: I think I found it, it's in account settings
[09:54] <Ademan> adrian_: oh yeah, i think that's determined by your GDM login screen, but i may be wrong
[09:54] <jakoblaursen> It all just fail, when trying to download index-files
[09:54] <sikor_sxe> hello, i have a problem on edgy. it seems that all wizards are broken in the openoffice-base package. is this a known problem?
[09:54] <saw2434> mojo: alright...thanks for your help. hopefully i'll figure it out
[09:54] <mojo> saw2434: good luck
[09:54] <realname> Flannel: Looks like on my system the mails are by default in the .mozilla-thunderbird dir
[09:54] <Ademan> sikor_sxe: naw i just used the letter template yesterday
[09:55] <blind> aimee: did it work?
[09:55] <sikor_sxe> Ademan: base
[09:55] <Gartral> i still cant start synaptic normally
[09:55] <mojo> saw2434: steps are 1) make sure 3d acceleration works for your video card.  Then try to install beryl once that is fine
[09:55] <Ademan> sikor_sxe: oh as opposed to oo.o writer?
[09:55] <birdmun> Ademan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789
[09:56] <aimee> blind: just went back to aimee desktop so i dont know
[09:56] <sikor_sxe> Ademan: yes, oo.o base
[09:56] <arooni> hey folks... the battery monitor is not very good... very inaccurate.... is ther ea bettery one i could install?
[09:56] <Ademan> sikor_sxe: i could try really quick
[09:56] <Ademan> what happens when you do it?
[09:56] <sikor_sxe> nothing
[09:56] <sikor_sxe> it just doesn't open
[09:56] <Gartral> type "battery monitor in synaptic arooni
[09:56] <mojo> saw2434: the glxinfo command gives you a bunch of output but you want direct rendering: yes  to be reported...  "glxinfo | grep direct"
[09:57] <mojo> saw2434: that will be your accelerated video working
[09:57] <blind> aimee: that's a good sign, now restart firefox and try to do pogo again
[09:57] <arooni> Gartral: well i dont know if one is good versus another
[09:57] <z9999> Anyone know of an IRC channel we can get help on X shared memory?
[09:57] <aimee> blind:  are you gonna be here a minute
[09:57] <MTecknology> ok... now the idea of setting up an invisible firewall sounds fun :)
[09:57] <blind> aimee: yes
[09:57] <PocketIRC> help! can not boot! why did I install ubuntu..stupid me
[09:57] <aimee> blind: ill brb
[09:57] <MTecknology> I with i had a puter i could use for it
[09:57] <blind> PocketIRC: why can't you boot?
[09:58] <adrian_> Ademan: Yeah found a setting in the GDM, loginscreen setup, which might do the trick, thanks
[09:58] <Ademan> sikor_sxe: how did you launch oo.o base? i don't have a launcher for that, i've got "from template" however
[09:58] <Gartral> try them, although most are rather good
[09:58] <birdmun> I have a program that is filling my hard drive in 4mb chunks is there any way for me to locate the offending program?
[09:58] <sikor_sxe> ademan: should be installed with ubuntu
[09:58] <PocketIRC> blind: error on fikesystemthinh
[09:58] <sikor_sxe> i started it from the menu
[09:58] <blind> fikesystemthinh?
[09:58] <Gartral> in my laptop, anyway. not all lappies use the same batter monitoring system
[09:58] <Ademan> and it was just called open office.org base?
[09:59] <philip> I'm trying to clone 2 LCDs to display the same thing in xorg.conf. Anyone has any knowledge with this?
[09:59] <poningru> birdmun: lsof
[09:59] <Askar> blind: Hi! I get some message that its error in filesystem
[09:59] <Askar> check forced
[09:59] <birdmun> lsof - list offending file? :P
[09:59] <birdmun> i will give that a try ;)
[09:59] <Ademan> philip: blind just wrestled with that last night :-)
[10:00] <varg> I want to execute a command before any windowmanager starts upp, where's the best place to put that line/code?
[10:00] <blind> Ademan: didn't get it to work :|
[10:00] <aimee> blind: thank you thank you thank you
[10:00] <Ademan> :-( sorry
[10:00] <blind> aimee: im just glad it worked :D
[10:00] <MTecknology> Does anybody know anything about Cisco Clean Access?
[10:00] <blind> varg: you should put it in the session file.
[10:00] <aimee> blind: its a little jerky but it works
[10:00] <t35t0r> MTecknology, yeah it's an annoying app that our school uses to make sure windows systems are clean
[10:01] <ekimus> birdmon: lsof  == list open file - also a good way to find what's happening is to determine the user who owns the files and look what processess run under that user name
[10:01] <t35t0r> MTecknology, before they allow laptops to connect to wireless networks
[10:01] <Gartral> actually, i found it works rather well, under kde
[10:01] <MTecknology> t35t0r, you know how to get around it?
[10:01] <varg> blind, thank you, I'll try that
[10:01] <blind> aimee: yeah, it might be a little jerky... i'd say try getting the latest version of java, but that's a lot of work for a newbie.
[10:01] <t35t0r> MTecknology, steal someone else's cookie
[10:01] <Askar> I did a fsck and now it asks me: "Connect to /lost+found?" Should I answer yes?
[10:01] <t35t0r> MTecknology, use linux or macosx
[10:01] <rotarised> Hi. Can anyone suggest a good c++ IDE for Ubuntu. Something like Dev C++ on Windows.
[10:01] <birdmun> i do appreciate the assistance i should not have made a funny :P
[10:01] <MTecknology> t35t0r, I use linux, but i want to stop fighting with it in windows
[10:01] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what game are you playing? i got java to work a different way, i wanna see if its jerky for me
[10:02] <Ademan> rotarised: yoou might try kdevelop and anjuta
[10:02] <MTecknology> t35t0r, i've tried spoofing my MAC to be somebody elses :)
[10:02] <aimee> blind:  lol  ya wouldnt wanna help me would ya
[10:02] <MTecknology> t35t0r, you go to DSU?
[10:02] <tuxcrafter> hello guys I am creating a benchmark system for linux and I need tools to test video performance like mpeg2 mpeg3 ogg hd720 hd1080 under linux can you guys help me out
[10:02] <Askar> "Unattached inode 2835409" What does that mean?
[10:02] <t35t0r> MTecknology, no
[10:02] <varg> blind, If i don't have a session-file, should i create it in my local folder namned .session?
[10:02] <MTecknology> t35t0r, aight, i do :)
[10:02] <aimee> c0nvlct pogo dice city roller
[10:02] <blind> aimee: if i remembered the exact steps, i absolutely would, but i don't, and it could wind up being trial and error.
[10:02] <ekimus> rotarised: eclipse with cdt (c development tools) - anjuta - kdevelop
[10:02] <rotarised> I just installed anjuta. But how do you compile and run?
[10:03] <aimee> blind: thats okay i downloaded it from the add and remove and it still didnt work....ill deal with jerky
[10:03] <blind> varg: you must have a session file. how are you booting your current WM?
[10:03] <Ademan> rotarised: compile and run a program you wrote?
[10:03] <c0nv1ct> aimee: oh damn, you gotta be a club member for that
[10:03] <rotarised> Yeah. (I'm new to C++ and Ubuntu)
[10:04] <MTecknology> t35t0r, isn't it a fun POS?
[10:04] <aimee> c0nv1ct i know why do you think i was so irritated
[10:04] <Ademan> oh, hrm well you've created a project right?
[10:04] <varg> blind, throw ubuntu login-manager
[10:04] <ekimus> rotarised: if you're new to developing use a text editor and a command line - not an ide
[10:04] <c0nv1ct> aimee: lol, understandable, glad its working though, i was trying myself
[10:05] <Gartral> ok, i fixed synaptic myself, now, how do i get gxine's media plugins working
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what angers me is that Bejeweled wont work in linux!
[10:05] <aimee> c0nvlct: i could send you a free pass i have a ton of them
[10:05] <Gartral> convict: go get jeweld from synaptic
[10:06] <c0nv1ct> Gartral: i was just lookn for an alternative :P
[10:06] <Gartral> lol
[10:06] <joshjosh> So. When I boot up with things in my USB ports, they are detected. But if i plug something in otherwise it doesn't read them. HP Pavillion dv6110. Any ideas?
[10:06] <aimee> c0nvlct:  i have jeweled in my add remove thingy
[10:06] <rotarised> Ok then. It's just that I want a simple place where I can edit/create programs, and compile & run. Just like Dev C++. So how do you compile using the Command line?
[10:06] <c0nv1ct> Gartral: all i see is xjewel
[10:06] <Gartral> Gweled is what its called
[10:06] <Gartral> sorry
[10:06] <ircusr> hello
[10:07] <aimee> c0nvlct:  tell me your screen name and i will send you a pass and you can see if its jerky
[10:07] <ekimus> rotarised: sorry to tell, but developing ist really about reading _and_ understanding documentation. so man gcc is a starting point, you are searching for the option to name your output file
[10:07] <c0nv1ct> its c0nv1ct420
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> man, i havent played these java games since college, so addicting
[10:08] <Gartral> lol c0nv1ct 15 6 S70/\/35!
[10:08] <t35t0r> penguin batting
[10:08] <philip> what's the difference between Twinview and Xinerama?
[10:09] <t35t0r> !google what's the difference between Twinview and Xinerama?
[10:09] <rotarised> Hehe. Thanks. I usually read and research. But I was too lazy today, so I thought IRC would give me a quick answer.
[10:09] <Gartral> ones xine based the other is something else
[10:09] <t35t0r> xine based? lol
[10:09] <birdmun> philip i believe twinview is nvidia proprietary and xinerama is linux based so you can use both w/ multiple monitors
[10:10] <c0nv1ct> sweet, gweled works
[10:10] <t35t0r> twinview is two monitors logged into two different desktops
[10:10] <t35t0r> xinerama is just an extended destop
[10:10] <c0nv1ct> a Diamond Mine port, the original bejeweled
[10:10] <Gartral> excuse me, i dont quite understand the way linux is built, i migrated from windows.
[10:10] <eck> Gartral: from hard work :-)
[10:11] <Gartral> ???
[10:11] <Gartral> you lost me ect
[10:11] <ekimus> rotarised: a piece of advice, get a book about it irc isn't really a good source to learn coding
[10:11] <eck> how it is built? it is written in C
[10:11] <Gartral> eck*
[10:11] <philip> what's one desktop projected the same way onto 2 monitors? Clone?
[10:11] <aimee> c0nvlct: it is not lettin me send it
[10:11] <t35t0r> philip, yes
[10:11] <Vaatix> Alright, so I have the Grub files on my Primary Hard drive, all I need now is to find out how to have GRUB know where to look. It already recognizes that hd1,0 and hd0,2(This is the primary disk) has it, but it still won't look in the right direction when I boot up without the external drive.
[10:11] <Vaatix> So
[10:11] <c0nv1ct> aimee: :\ its ok
[10:11] <eck> there is a kernel and a bunch of daemons and userspace programs
[10:11] <Vaatix> How do I tell it where to look?
[10:11] <eck> Vaatix: did you use the grub shell?
[10:12] <Askar> Why is my windows moving away to another desktop..?
[10:12] <Vaatix> 'sudo grub'?
[10:12] <Vaatix> Yes.
[10:12] <RiverRat> Can I ask how you guys use your cloaks?  Is a member a developer or just a user?
[10:12] <aimee> c0nv1ct: i guess i will just deal with jerky...lol
[10:12] <Vaatix> And then I told it to find /boot/grub/stage1 and gave me the results mentioned above.
[10:12] <ChaosEddie> RiverRat: we're all developers...
[10:12] <rotarised> I've got a book. But I was just looking to install a program to do the work in Ubuntu (the book recommends dev c++ or visual studio)
[10:12] <eck> i think it is the setup command
[10:12] <eck> let me check
[10:12] <Vaatix> I gave it the 'root (hd0,2)' command, as well as the 'setup (hd0,2)'.
[10:13] <eck> um, setup (hd0) is what you want
[10:13] <rotarised> (or whatever that SDK by microsoft is called)
[10:13] <Gartral> will someone help me figure out how to get gxine's online media working, instead of timeing out
[10:13] <RiverRat> So  * ??? (n=*@ubuntu/member/*) has joined #...  is one of your developers?
[10:13] <eck> the root command is correct (for the third partition)
[10:13] <Vaatix> Alright, just ran it, guess I'll go retry it then.
[10:14] <Vaatix> Thanks.
[10:14] <ChaosEddie> RiverRat: well not technically. we're all developers because its OSS so we can modify and fix the code anytime and anyway we want
[10:14] <realname> mm, my disk is entirely full, so I can't do a X login anymore, do you know which folder is the trash folder so I can remove that from the CLI?
[10:14] <ChaosEddie> but we're jsut users if we dont.
[10:14] <philip> in xorg.conf, I have  Option "Clone" "true"
[10:14] <philip>  but that doesn't seem to work
[10:14] <eck> realname: ~/.Trash
[10:14] <eck> realname: also try an 'apt-get clean'
[10:14] <realname> thankyou eck
[10:14] <realname> oki
[10:15] <Gartral> will someone help me figure out how to get gxine's online media working, instead of timeing out
[10:15] <Gartral> !gxine
[10:15] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 1216 kB
[10:15] <RiverRat> ChaosEddie: Ok, he joined a developer channel and one of their ops asked if he should extend voice as a common courtesy.
[10:15] <t35t0r> !vlc
[10:15] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:15] <birdmun> Gartral, have you read the wiki?
[10:15] <Gartral> yes
[10:15] <ircusr> !beryl
[10:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:16] <Gartral> and it was as usefull as a bag of penguin crap
[10:16] <Gartral> so, does anyone know how to get it working?
[10:17] <lkthomas> guys
[10:17] <lkthomas> could not open default font 'fixed' <--
[10:17] <lkthomas> how could I fix this xorg error ?
[10:17] <mojo> !botsnack
[10:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:17] <Gartral> have you tryed reinstalling the font?
[10:17] <lkthomas> nope ?
[10:18] <eck> Gartral: just curious, why are you using xine? i thought most people just used mplayer
[10:18] <ChaosEddie> RiverRat: there are different hierarchies of contribtions to ubuntu. user being just a user, developer who changes code around tries to fix bugs or does doc work, substantial contributors who are recognized for their work maybe get a spotlight on the planet ubuntu feed for doing a bunch off stuff like starting loco groups, core developers are who the guys who get paid to write the main partsof the code iirc, the technical
[10:18] <ChaosEddie> board has the final say in all matters etc
[10:18] <ChaosEddie> so i duno, maybe im crazy
[10:18] <ChaosEddie> but i do need sleep
[10:18] <Gartral> mplayer dosnt like dvd menues, xine does
[10:18] <aimee> c0nvlct are you still here?
[10:19] <RiverRat> ChaosEddie: And is that heirachy reflected in your hostmasks?
[10:19] <Gartral> and, call me old fashion, but mplayer also dosnt like my video card
[10:19] <eck> hmm, well i guess that's one reason
[10:19] <ChaosEddie> RiverRat: no not really, not thati know
[10:19] <eck> doesn't it just use x11 to access the card?
[10:19] <RiverRat> ChaosEddie: Like I help with Gentoo so I'm a contributer but I'm not a developer.  Hence my hostmask.
[10:19] <birdmun> gnome-pan 5974 xxx 1w REG 3,3 4602027074 16455 /home/xxx/.Trash/.xsession-errors (deleted) I have found the offending file ... sortof ... it just doesnt exist in my .Trash folder
[10:20] <eck> you can change the output backend anyway
[10:20] <Catsquotl> hi I just used the automatic updater on edgy. both kernels now exit on startup with a kernel panic.
[10:20] <aimee> may i please ask a question about java
[10:20] <Gartral> not on my comp, it crashed my vidoe card, so i routed it thruogh xine anyways
[10:20] <Gartral> aimee, dont ask to ask, just ask
[10:21] <eck> ouch
[10:21] <Gartral> yea...
[10:21] <Gartral> and, i like xine better, it give smoother graphics in movies
[10:21] <aimee> gartral: sorry just didnt want to interrupt...still having trouble need a newer version of java
[10:21] <Gartral> ahh hah
[10:21] <ekimus> hmm why does lilo tell me "Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.33-xen is too big" when "ls -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.33-xen /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-9-server" says: "1381 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.33-xen  1689 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-9-server" still on my /boot there are 45MB of free space....
[10:21] <Gartral> hmm, brb aimee
[10:22] <aimee> thank you gartral
[10:22] <Catsquotl> any way to get back into ubuntu without a new install?
[10:22] <dwa> aimee, do you want to install java 6?
[10:22] <Catsquotl> live cd won`t work
[10:22] <dwa> it's in the repo's
[10:22] <RiverRat> Gartral: I've a couple of vids that mplayer plays through in seconds and they are like an hour long.  xine plays them fine though.
[10:22] <aimee> dwa: yes please
[10:22] <ekimus> Catsquotl: get back?
[10:22] <Catsquotl> yup
[10:22] <dwa> quick question, do you use Beryl aimee ?
[10:22] <ekimus> more info pls
[10:23] <Catsquotl> i did a tekst install a few weeks back
[10:23] <aimee> dwa:   ive been trying since 7pm and i dont know what beryl is....total newbie
[10:23] <dwa> ah, that's good then :)
[10:23] <ekimus> Catsquotl: live cd doesn't boot at all - or just how to enter a chroot to fix the system
[10:23] <dwa> the beryl thing ;)
[10:23] <theherbalizer> anyone know of a way to make icons transparent when dragged?  (in gnome btw)
[10:23] <Catsquotl> won`t boot at all.
[10:23] <aimee> that i dont known what it is?
[10:24] <ekimus> Catsquotl: have you checked it's ok, and tried alternate cds?
[10:24] <Catsquotl> i get the upuntu splash screen but then it hangs
[10:24] <dwa> yes, because java 6 and Beryl don't play nice together
[10:24] <Catsquotl> i did a txt install from it
[10:24] <aimee> okay
[10:24] <theherbalizer> dwa: how do you mean?
[10:24] <Gartral> aimee
[10:24] <aimee> yes
[10:24] <Catsquotl> but after updating i ca`t boot from hard disk
[10:25] <ant> i hear a lot about beryl, does no one use enlightenment anymore?
[10:25] <eck> did anyone ever use it?
[10:25] <Catsquotl> in recovery mode it exit`s with a kernel panic
[10:25] <dwa> enlightenment develops way to slow
[10:25] <Gartral> go into synaptic and type in "JRE" get sun java 6
[10:25] <moepman> Catsquotl: do you have a core2duo?
[10:25] <Catsquotl> something about not syncing
[10:25] <dwa> theherbalizer, try starting a java app under beryl
[10:25] <Catsquotl> nope a amd 1200
[10:25] <dwa> you'll see what i mean
[10:25] <theherbalizer> dwa: don't have beryl running
[10:25] <theherbalizer> what happens?
[10:26] <dwa> java does not recognize beryl as a valid window manager, and fails to resize the contents of windows
[10:26] <aimee> gartral this may be really dumb but where is synaptic
[10:26] <theherbalizer> oh wow
[10:26] <theherbalizer> will it just not resize or draw white?
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> aimee: it should be in the menu under system
[10:26] <aimee> i just got this thing today
[10:26] <ant> if i'm used to enlightenment, would i prefer beryl?
[10:26] <mojo> anyone know how i can enable cifsfs or cifsvfs in ubuntu? apt-cache search doesn't find anything....  (yeah, i am gonna google too)
[10:27] <Gartral> lol,, ok aimee, system>admin>synaptic
[10:27] <dwa> theherbalizer, not resize
[10:27] <ekimus> Catsquotl:  i saw those problems before, the only solution i found is that this would sometimes happen, and if you reboot often enough linux will have the right timing (fixed it by using another distro)
[10:27] <mjr> mojo, cifs comes with the kernel
[10:27] <Catsquotl> ok
[10:27] <aimee> is it synaptic package manager
[10:27] <dwa> theherbalizer, but if you keep java 5 installed and just use that it works a lot better
[10:27] <dwa> yes aimee
[10:27] <c0nv1ct> aimee: thats it
[10:27] <Catsquotl> could i use a dapper install cd to boot?
[10:27] <ray_> quick question about alsamixer
[10:27] <ray_> it keeps muting PCM on its own
[10:28] <eck> ant: it's not a beryl vs e17 issue, i think it's more of a gnome vs e17 issue
[10:28] <ekimus> Catsquotl: sure any cd
[10:28] <mojo> mjr: i tried to specify cifsfs and cifsvfs in my fstab but get errors that it's an unknown fs type when i sudo mount -a.  am i using the wrong fs name in fstab?
[10:28] <Catsquotl> or should i yust keep trying to reboot often enough
[10:28] <eck> you would use compiz (beryl) if you prefer gnome (i guess kde as well)
[10:28] <ray_> any ideas why alsamixer would mute PCM whenever it wants for no reason
[10:28] <ant> eck: but enlightenment works fine with gnome
[10:28] <mojo> mjr: i am having problems with >2Gb file writing in smbfs (using lfs option for large file support)... my share keep crapping out after a while
[10:28] <Askar> hmm when I copy a text in ubuntu, where dos it go?
[10:29] <eck> in my experience, metacity is really the only wm that works well in gnome
[10:29] <ekimus> hmm beryl vs e17 (isn't that still beta) vs gnome vs compiz. editor discussions are easier there's just one (ok two if you count emacs) of them :)
[10:29] <eck> yeah you can use other things, but it always breaks something
[10:29] <Gartral> same place it does in windows, the clipboard
[10:29] <mojo> ekimus: isn't which beta, beryl or e17?  (they both are)
[10:30] <ant> eck: i see your point, i dont play with it enough
[10:30] <dwa> why is it gnome vs e17? e17 is a window manager, gnome isn't
[10:30] <ekimus> mojo: no idea about beryl I don't have a linux box with X on it when I had the e17 hype was just starting...
[10:31] <eck> dwa: i don't know anyone who uses a WM besides metacity (or beryl/compiz) in gnome; people who prefer a WM tend to just use that
[10:31] <dwa> true
[10:31] <ant> i didn't mean to get off topic, i just like enlightenment, but if beryl is "prettier" maybe a switch is good...
[10:31] <theherbalizer> eck:does clearlooks that count?
[10:31] <eck> clearlooks is a gtk/metacity theme
[10:32] <eck> it is not a window manager
[10:32] <theherbalizer> hm
[10:32] <ray_> any ideas?
[10:32] <ekimus> hmm does screen count? :)
[10:32] <ray_> alsamixer muting PCM on its own
[10:32] <dwa> e17 is a very good piece of software, too bad it takes years and years to complete
[10:32] <eck> haha, screen doesn't count
[10:32] <birdmun> ray_, I googled and found mention of something like that from 2003 and there was some mention of alsactl
[10:33] <mojo> ekimus: e17 seems pretty useable but i have not messed with it beyond playing with the eLive! live-cd a while back.  I am looking into it again here soon as it is light-weight (supposedly) for being pretty... it uses it's own gfx libraries.  beryl is a fork of compiz which is a re-write of a window manager for compositing after hacking in metacity (gnome's window manager) got messy, iirc
[10:33] <ant> dwa: is debian any different?
[10:33] <eck> although i guess some people use it that way
[10:33] <ekimus> ray_: i know that some recent hardware has a switch for muting whenever a headphone is plugged - but that's all i have with info
[10:33] <mojo> ekimus: beryl and compiz like stuff is usually talked about in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <ant> dwa: i mean in time between releases
[10:34] <dwa> ant, yes, i suppose
[10:34] <aimee> gartral it says sun java5-jre bin and plugin are all installed
[10:34] <ekimus> eck: why not? i can have multiple windows at the same time on my screen... and there are a few ascii screen saves (even colored ones)
[10:34] <ray_> well I can plug in the headphones and take them back out and it doesn't mute
[10:34] <eck> from my understanding it is likely that compiz will end up replacing metacity
[10:34] <ray_> it just does it when I restart the computer
[10:34] <birdmun> aimee, I am new to your issues but what do you need w/ a newer version of java?
[10:35] <ant> i guess i should answer my own questions and just try it. (beryl)
[10:35] <Maul555> I have a problem with my open GL in ubuntu 6.06...  My screensavers and some games will iether restart Xserver, or freeze the whole computer.  I have verrified that this is the problem, and i am running the latest nvidia drivers as directed on a ubuntu community support web page.  can anybody help?
[10:35] <ray_> what do you need ant?
[10:35] <eck> ekimus: i am a heavy screen user myself, but at the end of the day it is just a multiplexer
[10:35] <aimee> birdmun; bc i paid for a stupid subsciption on a stupid game site and the i got ubuntu and now my games freeze
[10:35] <ekimus> ant: debian is....more conservative....
[10:35] <z9999> Please cancel our question, we seem to have cleared our problem.
[10:35] <ant> ray_: an opinion. e17 vs beryl
[10:35] <birdmun> gotcha
[10:35] <c0nv1ct> aimee: are you still having problems?
[10:35] <genii> Since I am thinking of it atm, for those who hate having to run firefox under wine to see shockwave: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[10:36] <ray_> beryl
[10:36] <ray_> imo
[10:36] <ray_> although I've never gotten it to work properly
[10:36] <ant> ray_: lol
[10:36] <birdmun> i have played w/ beryl 0.11 in dapper
[10:36] <aimee> c0nvlct: yes and it doesnt give me an option for java 6 just java 5 and it says that is already installed
[10:37] <dougie> I got a philips 8gb mp3 player and i was curious how i get linux to read it?
[10:37] <theherbalizer> ./configure, make, install, right?
[10:37] <ray_> I've just seen some really crazy things in beryl
[10:37] <eck> my vote is for compiz :-)
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> aimee: open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin'
[10:37] <Maul555> I have a problem with my open GL in ubuntu 6.06...  My screensavers and some games will iether restart Xserver, or freeze the whole computer.  I have verrified that this is the problem, and i am running the latest nvidia drivers as directed on a ubuntu community support web page.  can anybody help?
[10:37] <ekimus> genii: i'd rephrase that to allow access to the specification of the shockwave format not access to the source of the shockwave player
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> aimee: you are using firefox right?
[10:37] <ray_> Maul555: did you try to get the drivers from automatix?
[10:38] <birdmun> Maul555, are you using beryl or compiz?
[10:38] <Maul555> ray_: no, how do i do that?
[10:38] <ikonia> automatix = don't use
[10:38] <vaclav> has anyone here tried running Ubuntu on a Playstation3?
[10:38] <Maul555> birdmon: what is that
[10:38] <h1st0> vaclav: yes
[10:38] <aimee> c0nvlct yes
[10:38] <ray_> Maul555: sudo apt-get install automatix2
[10:38] <birdmun> Maul555, I am going to take that as a no :)
[10:38] <ikonia> Maul555: don't do it
[10:38] <Maul555> ray_: will do
[10:38] <genii> ekimus: Well, it is not a petition that I initiated. You could email the originator with the suggestion I suppose
[10:38] <dwa> vaclav, does that even work?
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> aimee: then try that command, its the java plugin for firefox, it worked for me to get pogo games to run
[10:38] <vaclav> I heard it does -- I am going to try it
[10:38] <h1st0> vaclav: I'm pretty sure there were some digg articles on ubuntu running on ps3.  I think I saw something in the forums as well.
[10:38] <h1st0> dwa: yes
[10:38] <Catsquotl> ekimus: i see the alternate cd just installs a new system, won`t that make me loose my home directory as it is? i have some files there I need
[10:39] <ray_> and in the automatix interface you'll have the option to install the nvidia drivers
[10:39] <vaclav> but wanted to ask someone who did it about it first
[10:39] <dwa> i have a wii, could try to install on that ;)
[10:39] <ikonia> Maul555: people in here will choose not to support you if you use automatix
[10:39] <Gartral> vaclav
[10:39] <ikonia> Maul555: it can cause massive problems - see ubotu's comments
[10:39] <Xenguy> !lvm
[10:39] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:39] <h1st0> vaclav: dwa Heres a howto on the forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316047&highlight=ps3
[10:39] <Maul555> ikonia: then what should i do?
[10:39] <ikonia> !automatrix >maul555
[10:39] <ekimus> Catsquotl: if you reformat you will lose it. you should have a backup anyway
[10:40] <Maul555> !automatrix
[10:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:40] <vaclav> wow -- thanks H1st0!!!
[10:40] <Maul555> oh...
[10:40] <h1st0> ikonia: try !blah | user
[10:40] <ekimus> !worksforme
[10:40] <Gartral> what are you using to shutdown hypermonitor, and restart the system in gameos mode?
[10:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:40] <ray_> well, my apologies
[10:40] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >h1st0
[10:40] <aimee> c0nvlct it just gives me > and a rectangle
[10:40] <h1st0> ikonia: doesn't do anything you have to use |
[10:41] <Maul555> ikonia:  well, i have just installed a fesh copy of ubuntu, so other than that, what could fix this?  i know i have a good vid card, and processor/mobo
[10:41] <ikonia> h1st0: does - it sends you a pm
[10:41] <ikonia> !nvidia >maul555
[10:41] <h1st0> ikonia: negative on that.  And i'm registered.  ubotu stopped sending pms a while ago.
[10:41] <Maul555> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:41] <ikonia> really - I'll look into that - thanks h1st0
[10:41] <h1st0> np
[10:41] <h1st0> !apache > ikonia
[10:41] <Maul555> ikonia: ill look at that, thx
[10:41] <h1st0> see
[10:41] <jpjacobs> !goodbotuse > jpjacobs
[10:42] <dfd> hello
[10:42] <dfd> !updatedb
[10:42] <h1st0> dfd: hola
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatedb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <ikonia> h1st0: I got the pm
[10:42] <h1st0> ikonia: hrm... well I don't and i'm +ei
[10:42] <dfd> how do I disable updatedb to launch everytime I boot? It slows down all the machine
[10:43] <aimee> c0nvlct: this is just crazy
[10:43] <ekimus> !locate
[10:43] <ubotu> locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb
[10:43] <ikonia> h1st0: thats very strange
[10:43] <ikonia> h1st0: I'll investigate
[10:43] <dougie> I got a philips 8gb mp3 player and i was curious how i get linux to read it?
[10:43] <DevNull> how i can remove icons of hard disk drive from my desktop ?and still mounted
[10:43] <h1st0> ikonia: however, the channel is showing as #ubuntu-unregged
[10:43] <dfd> ekimus, yes I know the file is in the package findutils.. and I know why it is needed.. but I don't want to update that db =P
[10:43] <ikonia> h1st0: for me ?
[10:43] <birdmun> dougie, does it mount?
[10:43] <h1st0> ikonia: For me.
[10:43] <dougie> no
[10:43] <ikonia> ahhhh
[10:43] <h1st0> ikonia: did you get the pm from me?
[10:43] <ikonia> I did
[10:44] <ikonia> and I replied
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what does? that command?
[10:44] <dougie> birdmun: it doesn
[10:44] <Catsquotl> I know i should have a backup but....... any way to save those files?
[10:44] <ekimus> dfd: i was just checking if that would provide useful info :)
[10:44] <birdmun> dougie, have you tried mounting it?
[10:44] <h1st0> ikonia: I'm not getting the reply this is just goofy.
[10:44] <dougie> birdmun: it doesn't auto mount anyways
[10:44] <dfd> eheh :-)
[10:44] <aimee> c0nvlct: yes
[10:44] <ikonia> h1st0: try logging out and in and re-identifying
[10:44] <dougie> birdmun: what dev would it be?
[10:44] <ikonia> h1st0: looks like you've account is borked
[10:44] <DevNull> how i can remove icons of hard disk drive from my desktop ?and still mounted
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> aimee: type this exactly: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[10:45] <birdmun> dougie, do you have a flash drive?
[10:45] <Xenguy> DevNull: I don't understand your question
[10:45] <h1st0> ikonia: Well my name is registered and its nickserv isn't complaining.
[10:45] <dougie> yeah
[10:45] <dougie> it automounts
[10:45] <ikonia> how strange
[10:45] <Askar> anyone here knows of automatix has an ircchannel?
[10:45] <h1st0> ikonia: log out of what?
[10:45] <birdmun> dougie, what dev is it?
[10:45] <ikonia> h1st0: I meant irc
[10:45] <ekimus> dfd: apart from that I'd just grep for updatedb in /etc/init.d/* /etc/default/* and disable it (or remove the executable bit from the binary and create a small wrapper around it)
[10:45] <dougie> umm holdon
[10:45] <DevNull> there is icond for each drive in my desk i need to remove it and nt unmout the drive
[10:45] <birdmun> oh yeah its like sda0 or somesuch
[10:45] <h1st0> ikonia: I'll have the same thing but i'll try.
[10:46] <birdmun> or maybe just sda
[10:46] <Checkka> is anyone using kiba dock?
[10:46] <ekimus> DevNull: come again?
[10:46] <h1st0> ikonia: yeah it initially joins #ubuntu then it switches to #ubuntu-unregged
[10:46] <h1st0> ikonia: I don't get it.  I can try my other nick.
[10:47] <birdmun> dougie, i would imagine when you plug the player in you should be able to see something in dmesg
[10:47] <dfd> ekimus, uhm I found the script in /etc/cron.daily/.. thanks for the help.. I should have found for that file before :-)
[10:47] <chuckyp> !apache > chuckyp
[10:47] <dougie> birdmun: where's dmesg?
[10:47] <ikonia> dougie: its a command
[10:47] <aimee> c0nvlct: it just blinks at me
[10:47] <chuckyp> ikonia: no dice on a different nick.
[10:47] <birdmun> dougie, open a terminal and type dmesg
[10:47] <ekimus> dougie: there's also /var/log/dmesg
[10:47] <ikonia> chuckyp: how strange
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> aimee: is it asking for a password?
[10:48] <DevNull> heyy the dsystem puts an icon for each drive mounted in fstab!!!!
[10:48] <aimee> c0nvlct:  no
[10:48] <h1st0> ikonia: hrm... well I give up.
[10:48] <ikonia> fair enough
[10:48] <h1st0> ikonia: do you know who I might get ahold of to fix that?  I'm assuming its somethign with nickserv
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what happens when you just type apt-get?
[10:49] <ikonia> h1st0: try #tapthru
[10:49] <arooni> is there a cool way to copy and paste text i use frequently into different applicaitons:?
[10:49] <dougie> [17179576.464000]  usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71
[10:49] <dougie> [17179577.256000]  usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[10:49] <dougie> [17179577.448000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[10:49] <dougie> [17179577.448000]  ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]   GUID[00e0b8060400a2c8
[10:49] <dougie> wonder if thats it?
[10:50] <birdmun> possible
[10:50] <aimee> c0nvlct: nothing....i must be the lamest ubuntu human on the planet
[10:50] <Checkka> does anyone know of a quick stable desktop interface?
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> aimee: you are in a terminal window right?
[10:50] <eck> arooni: a cool way? like middle click?
[10:50] <dougie> birdmun: ok nvm there is a new one that just showed up
[10:50] <aimee> c0nvlct:  yes
[10:50] <arooni> um
[10:50] <dougie> [17180733.888000]  usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[10:50] <dougie> [17180734.024000]  usb 5-3: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice
[10:50] <arooni> eck: more like i can select from something i type frequently
[10:51] <ekimus> !paste |dougie
[10:51] <ubotu> dougie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:51] <arooni> but select form a list of such things
[10:51] <DevNull> any body answer me
[10:51] <ant> middle click is pretty cool...
[10:51] <eck> arooni: arooni i don't think so
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> aimee: i dont know what to do then, you have to be able to run apt-get, it comes with ubuntu, theres no reason it shouldnt work
[10:52] <eck> arooni: i think you can only have one thing in the copy buffer at a time; i guess you could keep open a text file with a bunch of different lines in it
[10:52] <Maul555> ikonia: i have a problem with your instuctions at this part; "You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6""    I have a graphics card that begins with 5
[10:52] <dougie> hmm it's detected in the device manager
[10:52] <Checkka> ?
[10:52] <dougie> Philips HDD14XX GoGear
[10:52] <birdmun> dougie, the device manager should tell you what dev its using then right?
[10:52] <h1st0> ikonia: How did you figure its something with my account?
[10:52] <aimee> c0nvlct i tried it again and got the password thing and couldnt find package
[10:53] <dougie> under the advance tab?
[10:53] <birdmun> possible
[10:53] <arooni> eck: yeah
[10:53] <ekimus> DevNull: then state a question "heyy the dsystem puts an icon for each drive mounted in fstab!!!!" isn't one :)
[10:53] <dougie> looks like usb5...maybe
[10:53] <arooni> where is a good list of ubuntu shortcut commands
[10:53] <arooni> for maximini, minimizing windows etc
[10:54] <eck> system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[10:54] <Maul555> ikonia: could my problem be related to the fact that i am using a dual head vido card as a single?
[10:54] <DevNull> i need to remove the icons of drives from my desktop how?
[10:54] <dougie> that does not work though
[10:54] <eck> DevNull: you need to use gconf to do that
[10:54] <ant> dougie: type "lsusb" to see it
[10:55] <eck> DevNull: there is an option somewhere in gconf-editor
[10:55] <Checkka> has anyone used kiba dock with ubuntu?
[10:55] <DevNull> and whats gconf
[10:55] <DevNull> ?
[10:55] <blind> When trying to run the democracy player, I get the error: "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?" -- how can i fix this?
[10:55] <scx_> hello
[10:55] <dougie> Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0471:014c Philips
[10:55] <eck> it is the configuration tool for gnome
[10:55] <ekimus> !gconf | DevNull
[10:55] <arooni> is there a nifty apple sidebar (widget thing) clone?
[10:55] <ubotu> devnull: gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[10:55] <scx_> i have a problem with webalizer
[10:55] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[10:56] <DevNull> i am serching for it!
[10:56] <scx_> when i run it from webmin, i have report in english, but when i run it from crond i have report in polish
[10:56] <Askar> Does anyone know what the tweaks in automatix bleeder does? =-O
[10:56] <ant> dougie: it'll be /proc/bus/usb/005/004 or something
[10:56] <scx_> sorry for my poor english, but it isn't my native language
[10:56] <dougie> thats the device path?
[10:56] <eck> DevNull: apps > nautilus > desktop
[10:56] <eck> (in gconf-editor)
[10:56] <ant> thats how i get to my camera
[10:57] <birdmun> dougie, i plugged my flash drive in and went downt the list till i found what the /dev for it was i had to go to the next to last carrot to find it in the advanced tab
[10:57] <scx_> where i can set lang for webalizer?
[10:57] <arooni> how do i get that nifty apple sidebar thing
[10:57] <aimee> anybody else have any idea about what to do for my java problem
[10:57] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[10:57] <Maul555> i know i have an open gl problem.... nvidia gfx card
[10:57] <birdmun> aimee the only other possiblity i can come up w/ is to try a different browser
[10:58] <ant> aimee: you may have to wait till all the geeks wake up
[10:58] <aimee> birdmun: what browser would you suggest....i tried mozilla...i had that idea too
[10:58] <aimee> ant:lol
[10:58] <birdmun> are you using any plugins?
[10:58] <Maul555> aimee:  firefox!!!
[10:58] <Askar> ant: when are the geeks coming here?
[10:58] <aimee> it says i have them
[10:59] <birdmun> mozilla was going to be my other suggestion
[10:59] <Checkka> ok
[10:59] <aimee> Maul:  i am on firefox
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> aimee: you may have to enable your multiverse and universe repositories to get that package
[10:59] <Maul555> aimee: then your on mozilla too
[10:59] <birdmun> aimee i was wondering if you were using anything like adblock or noscript
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> aimee: i know that may sound confusing, but its in your Synaptic Package Manager
[10:59] <birdmun> good call c0nv1ct
[10:59] <DevNull> tahnks done
[10:59] <Checkka> yeah i am
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> birdman: i know that package she needs, it worked for me atleast
[11:00] <Checkka> edgy
[11:00] <aimee> what do i look for
[11:00] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[11:00] <Maul555> i know i have an open gl problem.... nvidia gfx card
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> aimee: i dont have Synaptic, but i'm sure someone here is and can tell u exactly where
[11:00] <Checkka> is there a place to get it?
[11:00] <eck> Maul555: if i were you i would just use a non opengl screensaver
[11:00] <graulich> on xubuntu edgy, fonts are kinda small and hard to read on gaim and xchat and I think some other programs... what do I do?
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> aimee: its in the menu somewhere, where it says Manage Repositories
[11:00] <Checkka> i went to their official site
[11:00] <Checkka> it seems sorta empty
[11:00] <ekimus> aimee: what do you need?
[11:01] <Checkka> oh ok
[11:01] <aimee> ok i found the repositories now what
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> ekimus: can u tell her where to enable multi and universe repos
[11:01] <Maul555> eck:  this is by far not a slow or underpowerd computer, i want to play games and have cool screensavers, and i will not quit untill i do
[11:01] <Checkka> thats not a pro blem
[11:01] <birdmun> aimee, when synaptic is open goto settings then repositories
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> ekimus: in synaptic
[11:01] <eck> Maul555: and you are using an nvidia card? good luck
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> i'd rather she do it that way, than editing the sources.list file
[11:01] <Checkka> is it suppose to be supported?
[11:01] <eck> the nvidia drivers are just broken, nvidia needs to fix them
[11:01] <aimee> ok yall then what
[11:02] <birdmun> my drivers work for my nvidia card
[11:02] <Maul555> eck: yes, with nvidia drivers, installed according to a ubuntu community support page
[11:02] <Checkka> fglrx i believe
[11:02] <Checkka> no
[11:02] <graulich> how do I make fonts larger on all programs?
[11:02] <Checkka> what command is that?
[11:02] <Checkka> ok
[11:02] <Checkka> k
[11:02] <eck> Maul555: the problem is that the nvidia drivers have a number of issues; nvidia does not track X11 closely enough
[11:02] <Checkka> i guess
[11:03] <aimee> guys?
[11:03] <birdmun> aimee click on the channels one by one and if they are sources you can just click universe and multivers
[11:03] <Checkka> is KDE better?
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> aimee: look through all the tabs in there, and look for anything about universe, multiverse, and restricted packages
[11:03] <Maul555> eck: hrmm... would it be easier just to throw my ati card back in and use thier drivers?  i had little problems on my radeon card
[11:03] <eck> there are a _lot_ of issues in here with people using nvidia drivers and having X lock up or some other random problem related to nvidia drivers
[11:03] <birdmun> if they are binary you have to type universe multivers at the end of the repo line
[11:03] <Checkka> its that much faster?
[11:03] <Checkka> i thought KDE was bloated
[11:03] <ThePinnyParlour> hi all
[11:04] <ThePinnyParlour> got a question if some kind soul maybe able to assist
[11:04] <birdmun> make that multiverse
[11:04] <Xenguy> graulich: system > preferences > font  ?
[11:04] <Checkka> well i dont think its necessarily bad programming
[11:04] <Checkka> i mean it is free
[11:04] <ekimus> aimee: i don't know synaptic but you want to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file as root example with universe and multiverse enabled is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9605/
[11:04] <graulich> Xenguy: and on xubuntu? =\
[11:04] <eck> i'm not sure how much better/worse the ati drivers are, but in my experience people have recently had more issues with nvidia drivers (thankfully i have integrated intel)
[11:04] <Checkka> lol
[11:04] <Checkka> its funny
[11:04] <h1st0> ikonia: If your still around can you try sending me a pm I turned off all ignores
[11:05] <Checkka> time time time....
[11:05] <aimee> okay i found one that says multiverse and its checked
[11:05] <slick_> which program can you use to get windows vista style indicators and rss feeds on your desktop?
[11:05] <birdmun> also aimee when you finish you will get a window telling you you have to reload the repos so you can use them
[11:05] <eck> and nvidia definitely seems the most likely to crash or lock X
[11:05] <Checkka> i dont know switching to KDE is a bit of a change
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> aimee: ok, then click ok, and exit synaptic
[11:05] <Checkka> lol
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> aimee: then run apt-get update
[11:05] <aimee> do i need to restart
[11:05] <Checkka> yeah they do
[11:05] <Maul555> eck:  is there any problems i should know about before switching vid cards like that?  the last time i did that, i couldnt get a good boot of Xserver... (btw, i have no x.org backup file)
[11:05] <birdmun> no restart
[11:06] <ThePinnyParlour> got a Networking problem.  I could see my windows network from ubuntu but today I can't.  The only thing I can think that has changed was the updates that came through.  Any ideas?  Would like to have access to the windows machines on my network again from ubuntu.
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> aimee: no, just type 'apt-get update' in the terminal window
[11:06] <Checkka> yeah this keying is really annoying
[11:06] <Checkka> i dont know why its on by default
[11:06] <birdmun> in synaptic she can just click the reload button
[11:06] <ant> eck: i have heard ati has way more issues with linux
[11:06] <aimee> could not open lock file
[11:06] <Checkka> and i dont know why i need a seperate program to disable it
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> birdmun: installing it using synaptic might be bad though
[11:06] <birdmun> ic
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> birdmun: in adept manager, it hung during install, cuz u have to accept the user agreement
[11:07] <blind> When trying to run the democracy player, I get the error: "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?" -- how can i fix this?
[11:07] <dougie> birdmun: ok i'm pretty sure its /dev/bus/usb/005/004/ but it says its not a block device when i try and mount it
[11:07] <bullgard1> How to make good use of the Ubuntu 'example-content' feature?
[11:07] <Checkka> lol failures?
[11:07] <Maul555> ant:  i had a radeon 9600 pro AIW installed a month ago on this computer.... no problems at all, ubuntu 6.06
[11:07] <aimee> i just get an error message
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> aimee: you can try installing it in synaptic if u want
[11:07] <birdmun> dougie, lemme try sending an image file to you
[11:07] <Checkka> i see
[11:07] <Checkka> oh well
[11:07] <dougie> ok
[11:07] <Checkka> i noticed.........
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> aimee: did you type: sudo apt-get update
[11:08] <ant> Maul555: did you play any games with it?
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> aimee: it has to be run as the root user, so you have to include 'sudo' at the beginning
[11:08] <Maul555> ant: yes, a lot, worked great
[11:08] <Checkka> ok well i think ill take care of it later
[11:08] <aimee> oh look at that
[11:08] <birdmun> c0nv1ct, aimee doesnt have to use synaptic to install it just was saying synaptic could at least give a one click option to update the sources list
[11:08] <Checkka> lol
[11:08] <h1st0> !goodbotusage > h1st0
[11:08] <Checkka> I dont think he's failing
[11:08] <Maul555> i am having probnlems with this faster nvidia card atm
[11:08] <eck> ant: that was a while ago; nvidia used to be awesome, but lately they have not been stepping up
[11:08] <Checkka> he might not be helping the guy
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> aimee: did that update everything? should of gotten a screen full of stuff
[11:08] <ant> Maul555: i would stick to what you know
[11:08] <aimee> i think it is udating
[11:09] <aimee> updating even
[11:09] <Checkka> but i dont think it hurts to do trial and error
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> aimee: once its done type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[11:09] <Checkka> i mean thats how i want to learn linux
[11:09] <ant> eck: for games nvidia owns..
[11:09] <h1st0> ikonia: got it figured out.  I was ignoring MSGS
[11:09] <Checkka> it seems like the fun way
[11:09] <Maul555> eck/ant:  do yall think older drivers could solve the problem with this nvidia card, and if so, how can i install thoes safeley over the newer ones?
[11:09] <h1st0> ikonia: Go retarded every once in a while.
[11:09] <ant> eck: any hardcore gamer will tell you that
[11:09] <ThePinnyParlour> got a Networking problem.  I could see my windows network from ubuntu but today I can't.  The only thing I can think that has changed was the updates that came through.  Any ideas?  Would like to have access to the windows machines on my network again from ubuntu
[11:09] <Checkka> how do i know you're not giving me bad info like the rest?
[11:09] <eck> Maul555: the older drivers will probably not support newer extensions to X11
[11:09] <dballester> hi to all
[11:09] <eck> ant: i am not talking about games, i'm talking about X11
[11:10] <Checkka> no i dont think he's biased
[11:10] <ant> eck: i apologize, did not mean to interrupt
[11:10] <aimee> it is getting 24 packages
[11:10] <dougie> birdmun: did you try and send it?
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> aimee: good!
[11:10] <birdmun> not yet lost it
[11:10] <eck> if your drivers crash the X server, your game won't be too useful :-)
[11:10] <dougie> lol ok
[11:10] <Checkka> lol i guess its just an nvidia vs ati thing............
[11:10] <h1st0> ikonia: must have bumped that one when I was trying to ignore all the joins and quits
[11:10] <okep> i installed wine but I don't see any folder, where can i find it ?
[11:10] <Maul555> ant:  ati can definatley rock the boat, its like the amd vs intell war... one year one is on top, the other is the ladder...   i usualy root for the underdog tho
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> aimee: when its all done, close out all your firefox windows, and run firefox again and try it out
[11:11] <Checkka> but i hardly thing that argument would come up in a linux context
[11:11] <aimee> c0nvlct: look at me im a programmer....lol
[11:11] <dougie> okep: its a command line
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> aimee: you probably should close firefox now :P
[11:11] <eck> i am not a gamer, but to be honest, if i were i would probably just use windows
[11:11] <ThePinnyParlour> sudo winecfg
[11:11] <Checkka> lol so you think he's just wrong?'
[11:11] <aimee> its not done yet
[11:11] <ant> i have an intel chip personally, with no problems, except i cant play doom3
[11:11] <dougie> okep: go to your terminal and type wine it will give you a list of stuff
[11:11] <okep> dougie: yes but when i write ./wine <program.exe> it doesn't work.
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> aimee: close firefox, but leave the terminal window open
[11:11] <Checkka> lol i dont think he's taking sides
[11:11] <aimee> duh....sorry
[11:11] <dougie> no
[11:11] <Checkka> he's just helping the guy
[11:11] <Maul555> i can play doom 3 just fine on my amd k7, and my older ati card...
[11:12] <eck> if you want a high end video card you need to use ati/nvidia, and it just seems like they create more problems than it's worth...
[11:12] <okep> dougie: ok
[11:12] <Checkka> i mean drivers in linux are hard to find
[11:12] <aimee> if i close firefox....dont i lose you
[11:12] <ThePinnyParlour> thanks anyways all  bye
[11:12] <ekimus> okep: ./wine will most probably fail as it assumes you have the wine binary in the current directory
[11:12] <dballester> I've configured bonding under ubuntu-server 6.10. If i make ifconfig bond0 and ifensalve  all is ok, but defining the bonding into interfaces file, when system boots, the bonding is not activated. Any way to 'debug' execution of interfaces file config ?
[11:12] <student15> hello
[11:12] <c0nv1ct> aimee: oh, if you are using firefox for IRC then yeah, lol
[11:12] <dougie> okep: you run it just like windows like "wine C:\program files\wow.exe or someting op that sort
[11:12] <Checkka> oh well i guess thats just capitalism
[11:12] <birdmun> dougie, trying to send
[11:12] <Checkka> its good competition though
[11:12] <aimee> no i think im using xchat
[11:12] <ant> but if you know something works fine, then i would suggest that.
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> aimee: ah, then yer fine, u can close firefox
[11:13] <Checkka> lol hush
[11:13] <dougie> okep: run it to the directory you installed it to
[11:13] <Maul555> ant: i can play doom 3 just fine on my amd k7, and my older ati card...
[11:13] <aimee> c0nvlct i still have you....lol
[11:13] <Checkka> lol its probably a star wars reference
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> aimee: good good :)
[11:14] <c0nv1ct> aimee: is it done yet? its a pretty big download, it might take a bit
[11:14] <birdmun> dougie, any ideas on another way to get this pic to you?
[11:14] <Checkka> oh well, it boils down to being qualatative anyway
[11:14] <Maul555> anybody: how can i reset my x.org config files so that i have no problem booting back into ubunto after i swich graphics cards from nvidia to ati?
[11:14] <ant> Maul555: i can tell you doom3 was made for nvida though
[11:14] <Checkka> so i think comparing the ati thing isnt really going to get anyway
[11:14] <dougie> you get that msg?
[11:15] <koregaonpark> Hello.
[11:15] <Maul555> ant:  thats like a road being made for only a ford...
[11:15] <Checkka> lol
[11:15] <eck> Maul555: if you rename the xorg.conf file, X11 will autoconfigure itself
[11:15] <aimee> its done but it says duplicate sources for some packages and says i may want to run apt-get to correct
[11:15] <gesus> hey there anyone want to help me out on this one i have no audio in ubuntu. my sound is onboard..
[11:15] <ves_> Hi, I'm attempting to install 6.10 using the desktop installation: it's apparently "resized my partition" and seems to be happy with processing to install. Will this 'just work' and leave my windows partition alone? I was never asked about it.
[11:15] <eck> Maul555: then you can use dpkg-reconfigure to regenerate the xorg.conf
[11:15] <ant> lmao
[11:15] <birdmun> Maul555, you may well have a backup of your xorg.conf file already
[11:15] <Checkka> yeah i dont think he understands how graphics can be optimized
[11:15] <Checkka> for specific cards
[11:15] <birdmun> dougie, no i didnt get any msg
[11:15] <discord> anybody know about using /etc/environment? Does it work with the non-bash shell that ubuntu now uses?
[11:15] <Maul555> ant: with some differences tho...
[11:15] <MTeck> I just set up an IRC proxy on my server, can anybody help me figure out how to use it?
[11:15] <Checkka> well the way i see it
[11:15] <c0nv1ct> aimee: what does it say to run exactly?
[11:15] <eck> i.e. if X11 doesn't find the xorg.conf file it will be able to bring itself up anway (but probably not with dri and that other nice stuff)
[11:16] <Checkka> nvidia goes for higher clocks while ati increases its pipes
[11:16] <ant> whatever blows your hair back...
[11:16] <dougie> birdmun: doug.dale@gmail.com
[11:16] <Maul555> errr, where is my x.org config file located again?? and i should just delete it, turn off the pc, switch out vid cards, and turn it back on?
[11:16] <aimee> apt- get update to correct these problems
[11:16] <birdmun> dougie, i see .. pms from unregistered users are now blocked
[11:16] <dougie> birdmun: ah...i should register lol
[11:16] <eck> Maul555: don't delete it, just rename it to something like xorg.conf.backup
[11:16] <eck> it is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> aimee: try firefox again first, see if it worked
[11:16] <Checkka> you too
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> aimee: that msg might be unrelated to what we are doing
[11:16] <aimee> i didnt do the install thing yet.
[11:17] <Maul555> ok, will do....  im on windows right now, so dont think a disabled computer will keep me out of here for help : D
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> aimee: oh, well do it then :P
[11:17] <ant> by the way... chevy owns ford.
[11:17] <Maul555> ant:  pfft, no...
[11:17] <gesus> hello i've got no sound in ubuntu. i have onboard audio.  can anyone help? thanks.
[11:17] <ant> lol
[11:17] <eck> well i am going to bed, good luck with your video card adventures :-)
[11:17] <Maul555> ant:  I DRIVE A FORD DANGIT!!!
[11:17] <aimee> said couldnt find package
[11:17] <compengi> i have a root permission folder how can i delete it?
[11:17] <ant> eck: late
[11:18] <aimee> first it said everything was done
[11:18] <c0nv1ct> aimee: :( try 'sudo apt-get update' again then, and see if that error comes up again
[11:18] <compengi> i tried with sudo su then rm folder it says can't remove
[11:19] <Maul555> as long as were on the subject of xorg.conf... how do i get some freakign permissions to adjust this freaking file!!!!!
[11:19] <ant> su -i
[11:19] <philip> I'm looking for the startup boot filename. Is it rc.local?
[11:19] <aimee> sudo apt-get install j2rel.4-mozilla-plugin correct
[11:19] <Maul555> ant: i mean in the gui...
[11:20] <kraut> moin
[11:20] <craigc> morning all
[11:20] <GFree> morning? it's nearly 9PM here. :)
[11:20] <ant> Maul555: you can enable root logon by giving it a password
[11:20] <Maul555> its 420 here  : )
[11:20] <c0nv1ct> aimee: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[11:20] <c0nv1ct> aimee: looked like you put an L where the 1 should be
[11:20] <carpediem> ant: bah, bad advice
[11:21] <birdmun> dougie im not registered yet
[11:21] <ant> Maul555: but of course ubuntu fanatics would advise against it
[11:21] <craigc> dies anyone know how to re-install beryl?  when i run beryl the window bars are missing so i cannot minimise or move any windows :s
[11:21] <dougie> birdmun lol
[11:21] <Maul555> ant: advise against what... what you just told me??   why, and whats the alternative?
[11:21] <carpediem> ant: fanatics nothing, people who aren't giving out bad advice
[11:21] <aimee> c0nvlct still says couldnt find package....but it read all of them fine
[11:21] <dougie> birdmun: ok so /sys/block/sda is that the dev path for your jump drive?
[11:21] <ant> :X i'll keep quiet
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> aimee: man, i dunno, try using synaptic then
[11:22] <carpediem> Maul555: create a link on your menu to "gksu gedit", or just type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:22] <GFree> OT: I notice Microsoft's marketing is working wonders. Seems people are asking about Vista at computer shops, and yet when prompted they don't actually know *why* they want it. :)
[11:22] <birdmun> dougie, no actually its the first line /dev/sda
[11:22] <Maul555> carpediem: ill try
[11:22] <aimee> c0nvlct: synaptic says its already installed
[11:22] <dougie> oh ok
[11:22] <c0nv1ct> aimee: really?? try running firefox then
[11:22] <carpediem> Maul555: or just do what ant says, and get pwned like you used to in Windows.
[11:23] <dougie> birdmun: mine just says usb_device on that line
[11:23] <gesus> i have onboard audio but in ubuntu i have no sound -- can someone please help.  thanks.
[11:23] <aimee> gesus: try restarting sometimes my sound gets hung
[11:24] <Maul555> how the fark do i create a new link on my "menu"?
[11:24] <gesus> aimee, i haven't had the sound work in ubuntu since i installed it a week ago (i have restarted a few times since)
[11:24] <hope13> how do i play wmv protected file?
[11:24] <carpediem> Maul555: right click on the part that says Applications, and click Edit
[11:24] <hope13> !wmv
[11:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <arooni> is there a good clone of a GUI ssh client
[11:24] <Maul555> carpediem: i see no part that says applications
[11:25] <carpediem> Maul555: your menu says it
[11:25] <Maul555> carpediem: nm, im stupid
[11:25] <aimee> gesus: man im sorry
[11:26] <c0nv1ct> arooni: i dunno how good it is, but putty has a linux port
[11:26] <aimee> c0nvlct: it didnt work im goin to bed....lol
[11:26] <c0nv1ct> arooni: i used putty in windows and it worked fine
[11:26] <c0nv1ct> aimee: sorry i couldnt help more :(
[11:26] <Maul555> carpediem: so, im naming this link "gksu gedit", but what exactly should i put for the command... gksu gedit, or sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <hope13> how do we play WMV files encoded with DRM?
[11:27] <aimee> c0nvlct: it was very nice meeting you anyway
[11:27] <aimee> thank you for spending so much time on it
[11:27] <c0nv1ct> aimee: nice meeting you too, you'll probably be back :P
[11:27] <GFree> helllo, got an issue with beryl - how can I make it so fullscreen movies run at full speed in beryl without skipping?
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> GFree: are you using XGL?
[11:28] <GFree> not sure, just followed the simple howto on the ubuntu forums. how do I check?
[11:28] <aimee> c0nvlct:  this is the only issue i have otherwise i love the system
[11:28] <Maul555> carpediem: so, im naming this link "gksu gedit", but what exactly should i put for the command... gksu gedit, or sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:29] <c0nv1ct> GFree: try 'ps -e | grep Xgl'
[11:29] <GFree> I get no output with the command
[11:29] <ant> Maul555 : just goto a terminal and type the latter.
[11:29] <Malix> hello, my adept told me that I could update to kubuntu 7.04 with kubuntu distribution update tool which should launch automatically and close down adept. nothing is happening tho...
[11:29] <ComboKiller> Siemka
[11:29] <aimee> c0nvlct: maybe the pogo people will have some kind of answer for me
[11:29] <Maul555> ant: oky
[11:29] <c0nv1ct> aimee: yeah, you can try their support
[11:30] <ComboKiller> j #ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <aimee> bye thanks again
[11:30] <GFree> looks like I don't have it then
[11:30] <c0nv1ct> aimee: don't be suprised if they say 'we dont officially support linux' lol
[11:30] <ComboKiller> #j #ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <ant> Maul555 : any changes you make can be destructive so be careful.
[11:30] <ComboKiller> #j ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <aimee> no they said it should run fine with mozilla and the java plugin
[11:30] <carpediem> Maul555: by adding "gksu gedit" it would open the Gnome Editor in root mode, so then you could say "Open" from the file drop down and open any file and edit it.
[11:30] <aimee> i just cant get the plugin to work
[11:30] <Maul555> yeah umm.. so i created the link, used it, and it did like, less than nothing
[11:30] <realname> can I boot a feisty cd image (from an older linux) without burning it to cd, I just find out I don't have cd's anymore
[11:30] <ekimus> hmm does rsync work with raw devices such as rsync /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 ?
[11:30] <c0nv1ct> GFree: you can try running 'top' in a console while you play a movie, and see how much CPU is in use
[11:31] <ekimus> including bootsector synchronisation (can't use raid)
[11:31] <c0nv1ct> GFree: and it will tell you which program is using all the cpu
[11:31] <Maul555> ya know what.. im gona call it a night... i can deal with this tomorrow... im tired... yall have a good night
[11:32] <GFree> beryl, using avg of about 20%
[11:32] <GFree> oh, and I checked, the xserver-xgl package isn't installed
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> GFree: k good, cuz i had tons of CPU usage problems playing video with it
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> GFree: what are you using to play movies?
[11:33] <GFree> depends, sometimes totem, sometimes vlc, same problem either way
[11:33] <arooni> what about maximizing / minimizing windows... whats the keyboard shortcut for that
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> so while you have the movie playing, beryl uses 20% cpu? how much is Xorg and the movie player using?
[11:35] <GFree> xorg uses about 10%, maybe a little more at times, vlc is 1-2% at best
[11:35] <c0nv1ct> weird, and you get skipping? poor video framerates?
[11:35] <GFree> it's pretty-much ok viewing in a window, but it definately is slow in fullscreen
[11:36] <GFree> I've heard of this problem with others though
[11:36] <RedWolf-> hi there I accidentally screwed up my Xorg.conf by trying to add another monitor and so I found a .bak on there that I used to restore it, is there a tool that can autodetect my graphics adapter?
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> yeah, a lot of people disable beryl when playing movies
[11:36] <GFree> what about that xgl server, is that any use?
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> no, dont run xgl, it'll make it worse
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> using the built in AIGLX support is the best way to go
[11:37] <GFree> I guess the only other issue I have with beryl is with firefox - tab switching is slower for some reason
[11:38] <RedWolf-> if anyone has any idea let me know
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> GFree: thats weird, is your hardware pretty new? its possible its a tad slow for running beryl
[11:38] <aum> hi - what programs to i need for using a dvd-rw like a disk drive, like on windows?
[11:38] <ant> GFree : you may get more answers in a beryl channel.
[11:39] <GFree> athlon 64 3200+, 6600GT, 1680x1050 res
[11:39] <Ayabara_> !webcam
[11:39] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:39] <GFree> heck it's solid enough for aero, that was before I abandoned vista
[11:40] <GFree> in any case I'll keep investigating, thanks anyway
[11:40] <aum> !dvd
[11:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:40] <RedWolf-> what is the graphical or termial command for Reconfiguring X?
[11:40] <aum> !dvdrw
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <adrian_> Hello
[11:40] <aum> !dvd-rw
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-rw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <adrian_> I need some help with getting sound to my system
[11:41] <GFree> heh, never realised until know that sticking the mouse in the top-right corner of the screen has a use in beryl. :)
[11:41] <Xenguy> RedWolf-: dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg (IIRC)
[11:41] <RedWolf-> adrian_, have you considere alsa?
[11:41] <ant> !xorg
[11:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <Charly> GFree, i ran beryl without any issues on a 5y old laptop with geforce 4200 go
[11:41] <arooni> what about maximizing / minimizing windows... whats the keyboard shortcut for that
[11:41] <Ernz> Hi - Can anyone tell me of a way I can use a standard Ubuntu system, and install Edubuntu over it?
[11:41] <adrian_> been in there but no successful result :(
[11:42] <GFree> could be a bad setting in the xorg config
[11:42] <GFree> or it could be due to me forcing the res in xorg
[11:42] <Malix> I hate to repeat, but: my adept told me that I could update to kubuntu 7.04 with kubuntu distribution update tool which should launch automatically and close down adept. nothing is happening tho...  any ideas?
[11:42] <GFree> sorry, forcing the refresh rate
[11:42] <RedWolf-> that's not working Xenguy
[11:42] <adrian_> RedWolf: chosen me soundcard and all sorts of alternatives there, but no luck
[11:42] <GFree> I had to mess a little to get the monitor to work
[11:42] <dougie> what does it mean when it says something is not a block device?
[11:43] <Xenguy> RedWolf-: sorry, it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:43] <Charly> GFree, r u using the beta nvidia drivers?
[11:43] <genii> Ernz From konsole you should be able to install edubuntu by way of: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <GFree> I'm using whatever automatix installed, I'll check the version
[11:43] <GFree> 8776
[11:43] <RedWolf-> thanks
[11:44] <Ayabara_> my creative webcam worked out of the box with camorama. the picture is not good though. I'm the color of blue, and the whitebalance settings does not have any effect. Is there a better app than camorama?
[11:44] <capicu> Hello everyone...how are you all?
[11:44] <GFree> well how about that, 8776 is not the latest
[11:44] <Charly> GFree, thats the problem, u need version 9xxx
[11:44] <GFree> um... am I allowed to swear here?
[11:44] <adrian_> RedWolf: I'm forced to install it first even I can choose it in alsa?
[11:44] <LordLimecat> !language
[11:44] <ant> everyone is still awake from last night.
[11:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <GFree> oh. &*@^!@#
[11:44] <LordLimecat> indeed
[11:45] <william> hi all
[11:45] <GFree> WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THINGS PROPERLY AUTOMATIX!!!
[11:45] <capicu> i have a quick question ... what app do you use...if you use any to make screencasts? meaning one that is easy to install via apt/synaptic/automatix2
[11:45] <LordLimecat> ampersands offend me, btw
[11:45] <ant> !automatix
[11:45] <Charly> GFree, easiest way to install latest beta drivers is a tool called envy
[11:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:45] <capicu> yeah automatix is good :)
[11:45] <capicu> envy is good too
[11:45] <william> is there someone who can tell me how I can make my new HD accessible for normal user
[11:45] <capicu> depends what you want the drivers for though...for bery i had to use the ati wiki how to and install the proprietary one
[11:45] <william> its partitioned and formated but only root can write on it
[11:46] <capicu> then installed bery and it worked
[11:46] <GFree> ok, I'll do a little more research. I'll be back later with my progress. thanks for now
[11:46] <Charly> GFree, envy will automatically uninstall ur current drivers, download, install and configure the latest from nvidia/ati site
[11:46] <capicu> everything except the part where you have to tick on copy render path otherwise you get the white cube of death ha!
[11:47] <MrEgg964> Hi all. I've successfully mounted my network drive to /mount/mynetworkdrive. Now I'd like to access it through a /home/mregg/mynetworkdrive/ waypoint. Should I rather use a softlink or mount --bind ? Why use one over the other ? Thanks.
[11:47] <RedWolf-> thanks that was the manual config, but what about an autodetection for X for my video graphics? It's still acting glitchy meaning it can't find the proper refresh
[11:47] <GFree> where do I find this envy?
[11:47] <capicu> why don't you use gdesklets? and add an entry pointing to gnome-open ....
[11:47] <RedWolf-> GFree, I have envy if you want the deb
[11:47] <capicu> then add whatever file you want to
[11:47] <GFree> is it a script or something?
[11:48] <adrian_> any1 know how I can get sound to my system?
[11:48] <capicu> well as long as you have it automount on boot then all you have to do is reference to nautilus/gnome
[11:48] <capicu> you know...the gdesklets taskbar
[11:48] <Charly> GFree, http://albertomilone.com/
[11:49] <GFree> ta
[11:49] <capicu> so any suggestions for screencast utilities?
[11:49] <endyone> !list
[11:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:49] <capicu> i wanted to take a screencast of beryl working
[11:49] <GFree> I'm still annoyed automatix didn't installed the latest drivers though
[11:49] <capicu> video drivers?
[11:49] <Charly> alberto milone is maintaining deb packages for beta drivers and envy, i found envy the best way to install prop beta drivers though
[11:50] <GFree> wow, the latest version was built today.
[11:50] <juraj> hy
[11:50] <capicu> i think to install video drivers it's always best to install from the wiki from the video mfr
[11:50] <capicu> works best that way
[11:50] <GFree> right, this'll take some time
[11:50] <juraj> how do you get the signal on svhs port of video card?
[11:51] <arooni> what about maximizing / minimizing windows... whats the keyboard shortcut for that
[11:52] <juraj> enybody
[11:52] <arooni> how can i get asterick for ubuntu?
[11:52] <adrian_> I can choose my soundcard as standard in soundsettings, under sound but not in the devicemeny. Any1 know why?
[11:52] <capicu> well i'm off night everyone
[11:52] <william> hi again, I'm sure it's a simple thing but I can't write on my new HD its partitioned and formated (ext3) but only root can write on it. What did I do wrong?
[11:52] <juraj> How do you get signal on svhs port of your card?
[11:54] <Xenguy> william: ls -ld `echo $HOME`
[11:54] <Xenguy> william: what is the output
[11:54] <Xenguy> ?
[11:54] <adrian_> Hello!
[11:55] <kontingenz> azureus (java torrent client) crashes after 2 secs. I have logs files but can't read them....
[11:56] <adrian_> I need help with getting sound to my system, may anyone help me?
[11:56] <capicu> go to console and type alsamixer
[11:56] <capicu> i believe
[11:56] <Xenguy> !sound
[11:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:56] <capicu> aterm or xterm
[11:56] <william> Xenguy  sorry I don't quite understand I'm just migrating from windows and I have still a lot to learn
[11:57] <capicu> it's fine that's why linux is linux and windows is windows :)
[11:57] <Xenguy> william: you need to invoke a command-line (like DOS prompt); this is called a terminal sometimes
[11:57] <Xenguy> !terminal
[11:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:57] <capicu> you can type xterm or aterm if installed
[11:58] <Xenguy> william: then copy (or type) what I gave before
[11:58] <capicu> under run in kubuntu
[11:58] <Alarm> ello. i just got a notice from adept updater that kubuntu 7.04 is available and if i wish to update. i joined the website but there is nothing written about that release. could someone inform me please ?
[11:58] <william> this is the output drwxr-xr-x 37 william william 4096 2007-03-10 11:49
[11:58] <Xenguy> william: the purpose is just to see what permissions are given for your 'home' directory
[11:58] <capicu> i use aterm but gnome-terminal is what i believe comes in ubuntu
[11:58] <william> do I have to be on the new HD?
[11:58] <kontingenz> do someone know about problems with Azureus in Edgy 6.10? Crashes after 2sec
[11:58] <capicu> hmmm
[11:59] <capicu> might be a java problem did you install azureus from automatix2?
[11:59] <slick_> I'm trying to install another skin to xmms, but I don't have permissions to write to the folder
[11:59] <slick_> what should I do?
[11:59] <capicu> or did you apt-get
[11:59] <ant> what is kde's terminal called?
[11:59] <Alarm> kontingenz, u installed from the repo of ubuntu ?
[11:59] <Xenguy> william: please prepend my nick when you are typing to me (I am on many channels, so that will get my attention; otherwise I may miss what you say)
[11:59] <Alarm> if yes, try installing it from automatix, or manualy . that version that is in ubuntu repos is buggy
[11:59] <Alarm> had the same problem
[11:59] <birdmun> doesnt kde have an iconified shortcut to the terminal?
[11:59] <Alarm> doesnt even let u update
[11:59] <kontingenz> Alam_Ubuntu, yes. Backports
[11:59] <Xenguy> william: so those permissions you gave are normal, and you should be able to write to your home directory without being 'root'
[12:00] <elkbuntu> !automatix
[12:00] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:00] <capicu> no to install skins to xmms you download the skin you want then go to your ~/home/ folder find ./xmms then open it inside there should be a skins folder you can just physically move them there
[12:00] <capicu> or if you dont have permission what you do is open up a terminal then type the following
[12:00] <elkbuntu> Alarm, please dont recommend automatix unless you have the time to help everyone whose system is broken by it
[12:00] <william> Xenguy I cn but I have a new HD and I can't write on it accept I'm root
[12:00] <kontingenz> Alarm, ok. but in tzhe morning I got an update from ubuntu repro. same problem.....
[12:01] <capicu> sudo -mv  /home/user/Desktop  then type the folder you want the skin moved to which should be /home/usr/.xmms/skins i believe
[12:01] <Alarm> elkbuntu,  its not the system broken, its an azureus full of bugs...
[12:01] <birdmun> azureus works for me
[12:01] <elkbuntu> Alarm, i was referring to you saying: "<Alarm> if yes, try installing it from automatix..."
[12:01] <slick_> thanks capicu I'll give it a try
[12:01] <ant> automatix will make it worse...
[12:01] <Xenguy> william: ahh, OK
[12:01] <capicu> no prob
[12:01] <ant> (can) make it worse
[12:02] <capicu> just make sure you replace usr with your username
[12:02] <Xenguy> william: usually you need to be root to mount another HD AFAIK
[12:02] <GFree> hello again, got a slight problem now
[12:02] <gourdin> hmmm
[12:02] <gourdin> lame question
[12:02] <gourdin> I apt-get installed ethereal
[12:02] <Xenguy> william: I am not sure if you can mount HD without being root...
[12:02] <birdmun> Xenguy, could one not set up fstab so that a normal user could mount a drive?
[12:02] <capicu> slick you still there?
[12:02] <gourdin>   /usr/bin/ethereal isn't there
[12:02] <capicu> i forgot to mention
[12:02] <gourdin> what do I miss ?
[12:02] <Xenguy> william: is that a problem tho, and if so, why?
[12:03] <Xenguy> william: what birdmun just said
[12:03] <MJG7> Ethereal is now called wireshark
[12:03] <Xenguy> birdmun: I think you are right
[12:03] <gourdin> MJG7: hmmm =)
[12:03] <gourdin> MJG7: thx
[12:03] <william> Xenguy: I know the mounting wasn't the problem
[12:03] <Xenguy> birdmun: can you help william ?
[12:03] <william> I'm unsure how to change the fstab
[12:03] <william> I'
[12:03] <capicu> most likely you are going to have hidden files in your home folder...you have to click on view on the nautilus then click on show hidden folders/files otherwise youwon't see the ./xmms folder
[12:03] <Xenguy> birdmun: /lastlog william
[12:03] <adrian_> capicu: I have sound movies which is ogg files, but not when playing mp3-files
[12:03] <birdmun> i wish i could ... im so greaen
[12:03] <gourdin> MJG7: this isn't mentioned on ethereal site :/
[12:03] <birdmun> green even
[12:03] <capicu> to convert ogg i believe you need audacity
[12:04] <william> Xenguy: I tried to change the fstab but after reeboot the hd didn't mount at all
[12:04] <GFree> xorg reports that the kernal drivers are new (9755 or whatever is the latest) but the X drivers are old (8xxx), so there's a mismatch
[12:04] <capicu> sudo apt-get audacity or you can just download it from automatix
[12:04] <ant> gourdin: MjG7 is right
[12:04] <adrian_> no I don't need to convert, i need to be able to play mp3
[12:04] <slick_> capicu, yeah I viewed the hidden folder, I just didn't have permission.  I tried the command you suggested and got "sudo: please use single character options
[12:04] <slick_> sudo: illegal option `-mv'
[12:04] <slick_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[12:04] <slick_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[12:04] <slick_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[12:04] <slick_> "
[12:04] <GFree> I need to clean out the old nvidia drivers entirely
[12:04] <capicu> audacity should be able to convert ogg to .mp3 just make sure you get the lame library
[12:04] <capicu> hold on slick brb
[12:05] <Xenguy> william: an error that would need to be corrected...
[12:05] <MJG7> gourdin: check the wireshark FAQ
[12:05] <Xenguy> william: there should be HOWTOs around, hrm
[12:05] <Xenguy> !fstab
[12:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:06] <Xenguy> william: looks like you have some reading to do :-)  Unless birdmun or someone else knows this stuff off the top of their head
[12:06] <birdmun> william, do you know the /dev/hd* of the drive you are trying to mount?
[12:06] <Xenguy> william: I don't; I just figure stuff out as I go :-)
[12:06] <birdmun> Xenguy, same here
[12:06] <adrian_> capicu: I can play avi movies and other stuff but not mp3, any ideas?
[12:06] <birdmun> google and ubuntuforums are my friends
[12:06] <Xenguy> birdmun: and my memory can often suck if I have not used stuff lately ;-)
[12:07] <william> Xenguy: sure and trust me I read a lot these t
[12:07] <william> Xenguy: sure and trust me I read a lot these last days
[12:07] <capicu> sorry  i gave you the wrong command slick
[12:07] <ant> and this channel is a friend everyonce in a while.
[12:07] <birdmun> aye
[12:07] <Xenguy> william: with stuff like /etc/fstab you just need to be methodical
[12:07] <william> Xenguy: /dev/sdb1/
[12:07] <birdmun> sdb1 huh?
[12:08] <capicu> type this ....          sudo mv  (then the folder where you have the skins) like this            sudo mv /home/your name/Desktop/folder where the skin is located/skin name  /home/your name/.xmms/skins
[12:08] <birdmun> easy way right now you should? be able to sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydrive after of course you make the dir named mydrive in the /media dir
[12:08] <william> Xenguy: I've tried to copy the settings of me primary disk /dev/hdd
[12:09] <capicu> adrian you might have to get easybuntu or automatix and install all the proprietary codecs  what music player are you trying to play mp3's with? xmms? or amarok
[12:09] <MTecknology> I wonder how big my log files will get in a week if i'm always connected and saving everything - being connected to 3 channels
[12:09] <Xenguy> william: Sorry I don't really have more to offer; I don't know this stuff off the top of my head
[12:09] <birdmun> william, easy way right now you should? be able to sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydrive after of course you make the dir named mydrive in the /media dir
[12:10] <Xenguy> william: you have the docs, have at it :-)
[12:10] <adrian_> capicu, i solve it now, but a lot for you help
[12:10] <klimraamkosie> Whenever I restart my eth0, my DNS servers are reset to the routers IP.  I want to add additional DNS servers, but it resets the list every time.  How do I go about fixing this?
[12:10] <william> birdmun: drive is already mounted /dev/sdb1 /media/data but only root can write on it
[12:10] <capicu> no problem...did you get it to work?
[12:11] <birdmun> william, my appologies for being slow to the party
[12:11] <capicu> adrian which version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:11] <birdmun> so what does the line in fstab look like for /dev/sdb1 ?
[12:12] <capicu> anyone know why there are so few gdesklets? i thought there'd be more available
[12:12] <william> birdmun: Xenguy: maby it helps to know tha I use Kubuntu 6.10
[12:12] <tuskernini> where do i find a howto to connect to the ekiga.net directory with netmeeting?
[12:12] <slick_> cheers capicu that worked
[12:12] <capicu> most questions are answered at the ubuntu wiki page
[12:13] <capicu> no prob slick there's some awesome skins for xmms at gnome-look.org
[12:13] <birdmun> william, distro shouldnt make a difference in how fstab works
[12:13] <william> I just had a hart fight for almost a week to get my nvidia card running correctly
[12:13] <gemeindebau> hello; i have updated my ati drivers (using download from ati site) to recompile the new drivers for the 17.11 (?) kernel. everything worked fine, i do have my dual screen support back and ati drivers are correct installed. i copied back my xorg.conf (well working) but suddenly I cannot get the right resolution anymore on my screens; instead of the expected 3200x1600 I get as max resolution...
[12:13] <gemeindebau> ...3840x1080. this is working, but of course totally not ideal in terms of being able to see text and icons: all is a little small and a little high, difficult to read... can anybody help me, please?
[12:13] <genii> william in the mount command put -o user as a mount option. Then any user can use it
[12:13] <birdmun> william, what is the line in your fstab for /dev/sdb1 ?
[12:13] <capicu> you can add screen resolutions yourself man
[12:14] <william> genii: give me a sec I'll try
[12:14] <capicu> just gedit your xorg.conf and add in the resolutions just make sure you copy them in the way they already are...
[12:14] <birdmun> genii, i was thinking user needed to be part of the fstab line didnt know about -o tho
[12:14] <capicu> holy hell 3480? i wish i had half that haha
[12:14] <capicu> what kinda monitor do you have man?
[12:15] <tuskernini> a big one
[12:15] <capicu> yeah sounds like it
[12:15] <genii> birdmun on commandline would use -o for options... in fstab would be in section saying rw,auto   and so on
[12:15] <gemeindebau> capicu: 2x hp lp2065 monitors. the xorg.conf is ok, the resolution is set per monitor to 1600x 1200
[12:15] <capicu> i got a 21 inch monitor with an ati x1300 and the best resolution i get is 1600x1200
[12:15] <capicu> yeah
[12:15] <yuvalz> hi, i'm having trouble getting the gnome-session to run when logging with gdm, it hangs and displays a window with the following message "Unable to determine the address of the message bus (try 'man dbus-launch' and 'man dbus-daemon' for help)".  If I start with startx, everything works fine.
[12:15] <yuvalz> I have a 75dbus_dbus-launch file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d and if I run X with startx, dbus-launch is indeed working.
[12:15] <capicu> usually that's the highest resolution
[12:16] <capicu> i have a 21 inch trinitron
[12:16] <capicu> and a 21 inch hitachi
[12:16] <capicu> both 1600x1200
[12:16] <gemeindebau> capicu: two monitors next to each other: therefore 2 x 1600
[12:16] <capicu> yeah
[12:16] <capicu> gotcha
[12:16] <MTecknology> gemeindebau, are you an op?
[12:16] <capicu> i thought you meant 1 monitor at 3200
[12:16] <MTecknology> in this channel?
[12:16] <gemeindebau> MTecknology: NO absolutely not
[12:17] <birdmun> synergy is a fun proggy to play with
[12:17] <gemeindebau> capicu: no, but the ati driver makes one big image and says: (normally) one image (big desktop)
[12:17] <MTecknology> gemeindebau, are you identified?
[12:17] <gemeindebau> MTecknology: yes
[12:17] <genii> geez the fonts would be about 2 pixels high at that res
[12:17] <capicu> which driver version did you install?
[12:17] <gemeindebau> i did the nickserver identify stuff
[12:17] <MTecknology> capicu, are you identified ?
[12:18] <birdmun> william, went silent ... musta fell into his fstab :)
[12:18] <capicu> i installed the 8.34.8  driver manually with no probs
[12:18] <gemeindebau> capicu: 8;34.8 driver installed manually with the help of the wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[12:18] <capicu> go here wait...which version of ubuntu
[12:18] <gemeindebau> edgy
[12:18] <capicu> ahhh ok that's what i did
[12:18] <genii> birdmun :)
[12:18] <capicu> yeah thats where i got mine from as well...did you add the lines at the bottom of your xorg.conf? as per the wiki?
[12:18] <klimraamkosie> Whenever I restart my eth0, my DNS servers are reset to the routers IP.  I want to add additional DNS servers, but it resets the list every time.  How do I go about fixing this?
[12:19] <william> genii: it seems that I'm to supid
[12:19] <gemeindebau> capicu: i did that at the original install as well and it had worked fine. therefore i thought: safe my original xorg.conf and recopy it after installation
[12:19] <william> genii: sudo mount -o user /dev/sdb2 /media/backup but still no success
[12:19] <gemeindebau> capicu: wait i am checking what line you are referring to
[12:19] <genii> william Yes, that would be proper syntax.
[12:19] <birdmun> klimraamkosie, not sure but maybe host file somewhere?
[12:19] <MTecknology> william, are you identified to freenode?
[12:20] <capicu> gemeindebau : add this to the bottom of your xorg.conf ----Section "Extensions"      Option  "Composite" "Disable" EndSection  Section "ServerFlags"         Option  "AIGLX" "off" EndSection
[12:20] <birdmun> william, you do have a dir named backup? stupid question i know
[12:20] <MTecknology> I want to figure out why my irc proxy is adding + and - b4 messages
[12:20] <capicu> make sure you add those lines to the BOTTOM of your xorg.conf file
[12:20] <william> MTechnilogy: freenode?
[12:20] <genii> william Before you mount it, try: sudo chmod -R 755 /media/backup
[12:21] <blue|palm> I tried to install a package (dcraw) but it hit an error where it couldnt overwrite a directory from another package... now i cant install anything because each time i try to use apt-get it tries to install dcraw which fails...
[12:21] <william> birdrum: yes I have
[12:21] <capicu> you can use "composite" disable  or "composite"  "false" i changed it to false
[12:21] <blue|palm> how can i remove dcraw from installing all the time
[12:21] <william> birdmun I can acces it just as root
[12:21] <Alarm> i want to spit my linux into 2 partition for more performance (2 partitions , 1 on a different disk) , so that some things run from the 1 disk , and the other 1 from the second. a system works much faster while doing that once it uses the whole bus. which directory should i put on the second disk ?
[12:22] <birdmun> william, i am with genii ... and the chmod
[12:22] <gemeindebau> capicu: the composite section was there set to "0" (i suppose disabled, but i changed it anyway as you said) and i had to add the server flags thing; so i suppose i must use the ctrl alt backspace to restart...?
[12:22] <capicu> gemeindebau : in case ubuntu crashes you can via command  vi your xorg.conf
[12:22] <blue|palm> how can i fix an apt-get installation problem?
[12:22] <william> genii before I mount? could you please tell me how to unmount it because it is already mounted now :-)
[12:22] <gemeindebau> capicu: ctrl alt backspace is enough to do effectuate this option?
[12:22] <capicu> yeah they specifically say to use "disable" ...i've read elsewhere to use "false"
[12:23] <capicu> i would just reboot
[12:23] <blue|palm> one package tries to overwrite another package.... so now i cant install anything !!!!!!! how do i fix this?
[12:23] <capicu> but it's up to you
[12:23] <birdmun> william, umount wont work?
[12:23] <gemeindebau> capicu: thanks i will reboot. thanks for your help. i will come back if no improvement.
[12:23] <capicu> a lot of times ctrl+alt+backspace will get you a messed up screen
[12:23] <capicu> ok
[12:23] <capicu> good luck
[12:23] <capicu> in case your graphics crashes you can via command line revert
[12:24] <capicu> edit your xorg by the vi command
[12:24] <genii> william At any rate, in the /etc/fstab file, you should add to the line for the sdb2 mount in the section which has options like rw,auto   or similar, the option user eg: something like rw,auto,user <-- added with a comma then "user" ....lag... to unmount something, use command: umount /media/backup    (for instance)
[12:24] <capicu> in case you cannot boot to graphics mode
[12:24] <genii> William Sorry for lag was typing all the previous fstab stuff in when you asked next question:)
[12:25] <Scalar> anyone have a time for a noob question?
[12:25] <GFree> OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! Beryl is so cool, when you've got proper nvidia drivers!
[12:25] <birdmun> i wish i knew i could reboot and get back into my system ... i believe my xsession-error file has become hugenormous and i may not be able to get back in if i reboot ... btw i cant find the offending file as what i got from lsof was it is deleted in my .Trash folder yet nothing not even hidden is there
[12:25] <GFree> thankyou to all those who assisted me before
[12:25] <blue|palm> anyone know how to get my apt-get working... it tries to install one package which cant overwrite another each time i call it
[12:25] <Fiish> GFree, did u finally use envy?
[12:25] <genii> birdmun All that stuff should be somehwere under /var/log
[12:25] <jrib> Scalar: just ask
[12:26] <Scalar> k well
[12:26] <Scalar> 6.10 server cd
[12:26] <Scalar> lamp install
[12:26] <capicu> Gfree i envy you...i don't know WHY i bought an ati card...it's GARBAGE! man i tell you GARBAGE if you use linux i get beryl to work but it's slow sometimes
[12:26] <Scalar> reboots instantly on start
[12:26] <Scalar> as in says 'starting <something>' then instant restart
[12:26] <jrib> !enter | Scalar
[12:26] <ubotu> Scalar: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:26] <Scalar> 6.10 gnome desktopo works fine
[12:26] <Scalar> rgr
[12:26] <capicu> best window manager fluxbox :)
[12:26] <GFree> yep I used envy
[12:27] <Scalar> so what can I do to troubleshoot the boot?
[12:27] <capicu> fluxbox+gdesklets *thumbsup*
[12:27] <Fiish> I found compiz more stable than beryl
[12:27] <ZenithDK> when I try to upgrade to feisty from edgy, I get an error about not having enough free room on /boot, it's about 30 MB, but it wants about 30 more...what gives?
[12:27] <GFree> basically what happened was I went straight ahead and told it to download, but I didn't uninstall the old driver beforehand
[12:27] <capicu> i wonder if you can have compiz and beryl installed simultaneously
[12:27] <GFree> after a reboot, I found out there was a mismatch between the new kernal driver and the x server driver, so it wouldn't let me load
[12:27] <capicu> anyone know?
[12:28] <Minibnz> bluejpalm: Are you running  as root with sudo ?
[12:28] <birdmun> i wouldnt know why you couldnt but then i dont know how to start beryl but from gdm
[12:28] <GFree> eventually I fixed things by using the plain nv driver, told envy to uninstall, then reinstall. and here I am
[12:28] <GFree> btw, video work perfectly in fullscreen. :)
[12:28] <Fiish> at least until nvidia fix the shared memory bug of their drivers, u need at least 128MB video ram to run beryl properly, compiz runs with 64MB
[12:28] <capicu> you know what's awesome???? LOOKING GLASS!!!!! i give it another 6 months and looking glass is gonna rock!
[12:28] <soma> why i cannot enter in my shared folders with samba from my computer, but others can?
[12:29] <capicu> fiish : do you know if i can have compiz and beryl installed at the same time?
[12:29] <william> genii: this is written in my fstab /dev/sdb1/ /media/data -o user rwx defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rwx,dev,exec,suid 1 0
[12:29] <william> genii I'm unsure what i did but its not working
[12:29] <capicu> probably not 'cause they probably need different xorg configurations i'm sure
[12:29] <Fiish> capicu, yes u can have both installed but u can only run one at any time, they wont run simultaneously
[12:29] <Scalar> restated question: ubuntu server 6.10 installed from cd. when it starts it says 'starting up...' and int13/reboots instantly. Ubuntu desktop installs & runs fine. How can I troubleshoot the server install?
[12:30] <capicu> fiish: any special tweaks to your xorg when running compiz? or will the xorg.conf to use beryl suit compiz as well?
[12:30] <genii> william instead should be: /dev/sdb1/ /media/data defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rwx,dev,exec,suid,user 1 0
[12:30] <birdmun> william, not sure the -o user is right ... genii mentioned ... yeah what genii typed
[12:30] <Fiish> GFree, with 6600GT fullscreen video should be fine indeed, as i said before i got a crappy 4200 Go with only 64MB RAM :/
[12:31] <GFree> well it is now, heck even games run properly (so far) without having to disable beryl
[12:31] <capicu> fiish : how's the performance in compiz?  no freeze ups or slow-downs?
[12:31] <Fiish> capicu, i used the same xorg.conf for both beryl and compiz
[12:31] <genii> william Also may not need / after sdb1
[12:31] <ZenithDK> anybody here running feisty that used the upgrade-manager? I get an error about not having enough free space on /boot
[12:31] <capicu> i got an ati x1300 with 256megs ram...and sometimes it slows down and windows snap slowly
[12:31] <GFree> I'm going to a LAN in about a week, and everyone's obsessing over the Vista shiny there. heh
[12:31] <william> I'll trie but therefore I have to reboot
[12:31] <william> thanks so far
[12:32] <william> be back in a min
[12:32] <Fiish> capicu, i had problems with full screen video with beryl, compiz works fine
[12:32] <capicu> fiish: i think you've convinced me to try compiz :) i wonder if there are any comaptability issues with at
[12:32] <capicu> ati
[12:32] <birdmun> wow this is all just ubuntu overload for me ... hasta
[12:32] <capicu> yeah video makes my beryl drag
[12:32] <Fiish> capicu, if u have a decent video card though, beryl offers more eye-candy
[12:33] <jrib> ZenithDK: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[12:33] <Fiish> capicu, it is just that the compiz hardware requirements are lot less
[12:33] <pololo1> j
[12:33] <capicu> yeah beryl is too much ...i personally like fluxbox but to play around once in a while i fire on beryl :)
[12:33] <capicu> like i said fluxbox with gdesklets  lightning quick
[12:33] <ZenithDK> jrib: thanks!
[12:34] <william> genii: birdmun: I'll restart now and be back in a min
[12:34] <genii> william OK
[12:34] <capicu> yeah i'm sure there are some issues with compiz+ati like always i think i'm gonna see if i can sell my ati card an just buy a nvidia
[12:34] <clouder`grr> Anyone have any idea why in gnome I right click a folder go to Permissions, I set a permission and click Apply to enclosed files, click close then I go back to properties-> Permissions again and it's as if I did nothing  (yes I am the owner of the file)
[12:34] <GFree> I wonder if beryl can cure cancer
[12:34] <capicu> haha
[12:35] <Fiish> capicu, i havent tried fluxbox for a long time, i stuck with gnome for a while now
[12:35] <capicu> sudo -gedit cure for cancer ;)
[12:35] <capicu> yeah fluxbox is good....i use dillo browser lightning quick xmms and aterm
[12:36] <capicu> plus the gdesklets with the taskbar a' la osx
[12:36] <Fiish> anyone know whether GL desktop,either compiz or beryl, will be part of ubuntu feisty fawn?
[12:36] <poningru> Fiish: go look at the herd5 release notes
[12:36] <Scalar> can anyone help troubleshoot a bad ubuntu lamp install?
[12:37] <poningru> Scalar: sure whatsup"
[12:37] <poningru> ?
[12:37] <capicu> fiish: be back in a few gonna have to do some research on  compiz with ati :)
[12:37] <Scalar> quoting my last: <Scalar> restated question: ubuntu server 6.10 installed from cd. when it starts it says 'starting up...' and int13/reboots instantly. Ubuntu desktop installs & runs fine. How can I troubleshoot the server install?
[12:37] <Fiish> capicu, good luck , hope it works
[12:38] <poningru> Scalar: can you start it up with noacpi and lacpi
[12:38] <poningru> do you know how to do that?
[12:38] <poningru> and is the ubuntu desktop on a different machine?
[12:39] <poningru> Scalar: ??
[12:39] <Scalar> it isn't installed anymore
[12:39] <Scalar> i'm stil here
[12:39] <poningru> ah k
[12:39] <Scalar> i can reinstall desktop, it was installed to the same box
[12:39] <poningru> gotcha
[12:39] <Scalar> but i just want a lamp box in the closet to play with
[12:39] <poningru> right
[12:39] <Scalar> desktop was really overkill and sluggish too
[12:40] <poningru> so yeah can you start it without acpi and lacpi
[12:40] <Scalar> since that's an old amd k2 i found in the spare bin
[12:40] <Scalar> how would i do that =p
[12:40] <poningru> hehe press esc when grub comes up
[12:40] <poningru> and then on the grub menu press e
[12:40] <poningru> to edit the boot
[12:40] <rabe> hi
[12:40] <sacater> if i wanted to make my computer accesable to others on my home network, what would i have to enable
[12:41] <poningru> and then at the end of it add noacpi nolacpi
[12:41] <luke_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop, after the slider goes back and forth for a bit it just goes to a black screen where I can't do anything, same thing happens with opensuse and I have no clue what to do. :(
[12:41] <poningru> sacater: what do you mean accessible?
[12:41] <poningru> sacater: like certain files?
[12:41] <poningru> or to login?
[12:41] <DGJ> !seveas > DGJ
[12:41] <poningru> or like windows file share
[12:41] <clouder`grr> Nevermind found out my problem, the parent folder's permissions were conflicting with the permissions I was trying to use on the target folder
[12:42] <sacater> poningru: i mean, for example, i create an account that uses /home/homestorage' and i wanted other machines on my home network to be able to access it
[12:42] <Scalar> ok cheers poningru will go try that
[12:42] <Scalar> haven't touched unix much since irix & hp/ux mid 90's
[12:42] <capicu> fiish: i forgot composite is disabled by ati :( man this sucks
[12:42] <Scalar> aside from basic shell management of various hosts
[12:42] <capicu> i can't use compiz
[12:42] <poningru> sacater: what do the other machines run?
[12:42] <Demeskus> Hey, anyone have any idea how I could make scandic letters work in Ubuntu?
[12:42] <sacater> poningru: windows :(
[12:43] <luke_> I'm beside the desktop right no with the "start or install" page up, after trying numerous times even with opensuse it gives me nothing but a blank screen when I attempt to install.
[12:43] <Fiish> capicu, can u enable with Option "Composite" "Enable" or is turned off explicitly within the drivers?
[12:43] <charl_ie> can anyone help me with ndis wrapper? i have "driver installed, hardware present" but it still won't connect
[12:43] <capicu> yeah it's turned off within the drivers
[12:43] <poningru> sacater: its ok just right click on the folder you wanna share and click share folder and then choose the windows option
[12:43] <capicu> ati does not support composite
[12:43] <Fiish> capicu, u can still do it with installing the AIGLX layer though
[12:44] <capicu> hmm
[12:44] <capicu> i'll look into that
[12:44] <sacater> poningru: erm, i dont have that option
[12:44] <poningru> ok I have to go to sleep nn guys
[12:44] <capicu> if it will perform better than beryl i'm all for it
[12:44] <poningru> sacater: this must be in your home folder
[12:44] <luke_> Can anyone help? I click "Start or install Ubuntu", it slides back and forth before ending up on a black screen.
[12:44] <sacater> poningru: nope
[12:44] <Fiish> sacater, System > Administration > Shared Folders
[12:45] <Scalar> ok poningru, i'm guessing i was to add noacpi & nolacpi to the first line
[12:45] <Scalar> ?
[12:45] <cnc-lala> hello!
[12:46] <luke_> I click "Start of install Ubuntu", it slides back and forth a few times before landing on a black screen.. any help? ='(
[12:46] <sacater> Fiish: okay, when i try to add a folder hte only transfer type is 'windows networks SMB'
[12:46] <Fiish> sacater, isnt samba shares what u want?
[12:46] <sacater> Fiish: yeh, im just saying its there
[12:47] <Scalar> ok
[12:47] <Scalar> in grub edit i'm editing a multiline script for each entry
[12:47] <Scalar> i got that
[12:47] <Scalar> so when you say add noacpi/nolacpi 'to the end' should i do it on a new line or...?
[12:48] <ubuntu> hello
[12:48] <charl_ie> can anyone help me with ndis wrapper? i have "driver installed, hardware present" but i still can't connect
[12:49] <bvali> can anybody help me with postfix, amavis, spamassassin on Ubuntu 6.06? My problem is "postfix/qmgr: warning: connect to transport spamassassin: No such file or directory"
[12:49] <ubuntu> i want to access my hdd partitions in a simple way not using terminal komands can someone help me...im in live mode
[12:49] <sacater> Fiish: right, ive set up /home/dad to be accessed, now what?
[12:49] <Fiish> charl_ie, enable wpa and install wifi radar
[12:50] <billy_idle> hi@all
[12:50] <Fiish> sacater, u can access the share through the network from your other computers now
[12:52] <ubuntu> how can i put the partitions on desktop to mount /umount them easy?
[12:53] <luke_> After I click "start or install ubuntu" the slider goes back and forth a few times then I get a black screen.. what's happening?
[12:54] <bvali> can anybody help me with postfix, amavis, spamassassin on Ubuntu 6.06? My problem is "postfix/qmgr: warning: connect to transport spamassassin: No such file or directory"
[12:54] <sacater> Fiish: right, so on windows would i do 'ftp #IP address/#computername'
[12:54] <sacater> Fiish: do i need to set up some kind of daemon
[12:56] <luke_> Anyone care to help?
[12:56] <luke_> Black screen when I try to install ubuntu.. using nvidia
[12:57] <Fiish> sacater, in windows go to browse ur network form network places
[12:57] <bollola> hi #ubuntu, I'm trying to run cryptsetup on my new ubuntu installation (6.10), but I get "Incompatible libdevmapper". After some googling it seems like the cryptsetup package I'm using is out-dated. Does anyone know if there's a new one available that has solved this problem, if this indeed is the problem?
[12:58] <Ernz> Hello - I am running Ubuntu on an older machine. Whenever I restart the machine I get to the graphical boot part, with the Ubuntu logo, and an orange progress bar. For some reason it sits right at the start of the Bar for a good 5 mins and then loads fine after that. Can anyone suggest what might be causing the initial lag, where it seems to do nothing at all?
[12:59] <billy_idle> luke_: have you tried installation via Alternate-CD? Had the same problem and installed nvidia using the terminal.
[01:00] <ubuntu> how can i access my sata hdd in live mode in a grafical mode?
[01:00] <luke_> billy_idle: I'm a noob to linux :P But I've also tried with installing suse and get the same problem.
[01:00] <StoneNote> ubotu, !cryptsetup
[01:00] <ubotu> cryptsetup: configures encrypted block devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 704 kB
[01:01] <payan65> hola
[01:01] <Demeskus> I'm finding it a real problem to install the correct nVidia drivers for my nVidia N7600GS.
[01:02] <Fiish> Demeskus, go to http://albertomilone.com/ and try the envy script
[01:02] <Demeskus> Will do
[01:02] <ubuntu_> hello
[01:02] <bollola> ubotu: that's the version I have
[01:02] <Demeskus> You wouldn't happen to know how to change keyboard configuration so I could use scands?
[01:03] <Fiish> Demeskus, scands?
[01:03] <gemeindebau> capicu: hi, i am back with no luck; i checked again to be sure; in the xorg.conf the max resolution is set to 1600x1200 per monitor; in the xorg.0.log file i see  no errors, but i see a successful probing for the 1920x1080 resolution which is then assumed as the correct resolution; i wonder where i can disable that resolution, it is not in the xorg.conf file anywhere
[01:03] <ubuntu_> how can i access my sata hdd  in live mode using a grafical interface?
[01:03] <Demeskus> Scandic letters. Like the o's and a's with the two dots above them etc.
[01:03] <Demeskus> I'm from Finland y'see. Would be really useful :P
[01:04] <HouseJackBuilt> Hi - I am having trouble with an Ubuntu installation on an older machine. Whenever the PC boots, it gets quickly to the point with the Ubuntu logo, and the orange progress bar, but sits right at the start of the bar for a good 5 mins, and then loads fine after that. Can someone please suggest what might be causing this lag?
[01:04] <billy_idle> luke_: perhaps this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351042&highlight=nvidia-glx my english isn't the very best so i'm afraid that i can't help you very good ;)
[01:04] <Fiish> Demeskus, Did u try System > Preferences > Keyboard?
[01:04] <Demeskus> Ah
[01:04] <Demeskus> Apparently not :D
[01:04] <luke_> billy_idle: Thanks very much, but.. I have no idea how to do any of that. :(
[01:05] <Demonswarm> can i install ubuntu from floppies?
[01:05] <ubuntu_> please how can i access my hdd in live mode?
[01:06] <Fiish> ubuntu, mount it with hdparm, check man hdparm
[01:06] <billy_idle> mmh - let me see. Are you using a newer nvidiacard?
[01:06] <firestorm> hi!
[01:06] <HouseJackBuilt> Anyone, please?
[01:06] <lukaszRochSky> witam
[01:06] <alextj> Can anyone help me with command line a little? :D I am having a hard time to figure out how to pass more than one file to lame encoder in command line. Any idea? :)
[01:06] <ubuntu_> thanks Fiish
[01:06] <bvali> can anybody help me with postfix, amavis, spamassassin on Ubuntu 6.06? My problem is "postfix/qmgr: warning: connect to transport spamassassin: No such file or directory"
[01:07] <lukaszRochSky> czy jest ktos z Polski?
[01:07] <genii> alextj Can you show what command you are currently using?
[01:07] <StoneNote> bollola, http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ Clemens Fruhwirth is maintaining an enhanced version of cryptsetup with the LUKS extension that allows you to have an on-disk block of metadata which is superior to the current mechanism and was my long term plan anyway but I didn't find the time to implement that yet <-- so go here http://luks.endorphin.org/dm-crypt
[01:07] <Zewey> HouseJackBuilt: maybe your Ubuntu was trying to access the internet for syncing time?
[01:07] <capicu> gemeindebau: not sure man
[01:07] <gemeindebau> HouseJackBuilt: i used to have a similar problem; what i did was to remove the quiet option from the boot menu (please, i don't know where that exactly is, i am sorry) and then at least you can see where it is hanging
[01:07] <alextj> genii: lame -V2 --vbr-new input.wav output.wav
[01:08] <alextj> i mean, output.mp3
[01:08] <alextj> :)
[01:08] <lukaszRochSky> czy jest prawda ktos z Polski?
[01:08] <capicu> gemeindebau: what video card did you have again? ati or nvidia?
[01:08] <gemeindebau> capicu: an ati x1800
[01:08] <HouseJackBuilt> Thanks both. Zewey: How to disable time syncing?
[01:08] <redguy> !pl > lukaszRochSky
[01:08] <ikonia> !pl >lukaszRochSky
[01:08] <jrib> alextj: you just want to do that same command with several files?
[01:08] <ikonia> I'm too slow
[01:08] <redguy> ^_^
[01:08] <capicu> go to applications>accesories>ati control from your gnome panel
[01:08] <alextj> jrib - yes
[01:08] <alextj> like all files in folder
[01:09] <Zewey> HouseJackBuilt: are you using Edgy?
[01:09] <lukaszRochSky> witajcie jak tu zminic pokoj w tym ircu?
[01:09] <lukaszRochSky> jestem poczatkujacym
[01:09] <jrib> alextj: use a for loop:  for file in *; do echo $file; done
[01:09] <HouseJackBuilt> Zewey: Yep
[01:09] <jrib> alextj: if you use bash, and the files have spaces, you should use "$file" instead of $file
[01:09] <redguy> lukaszRochSky: /j #ubuntu-pl
[01:09] <ikonia> !pl  lukaszRochSky
[01:09] <capicu> brb
[01:09] <ikonia> !pl | lukaszRochSky
[01:09] <ubotu> lukaszRochSky: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:10] <Zewey> HouseJackBuilt: hmm, maybe not the time-syncing thing then... i think i only experienced that on Dapper
[01:10] <alextj> jrib, uh, 'echo "$file"; done' ... ?
[01:10] <jrib> alextj: right
[01:10] <capicu> i'll be back in a few minutes hope you get your resolution resolved
[01:10] <capicu> i gotta switch to xgl
[01:10] <gemeindebau> capicu: thanks! i'll be waiting
[01:11] <alextj> where do I put the actual lame command?
[01:11] <ikonia> man lame
[01:11] <Zewey> HouseJackBuild: try gemeindebau's suggestion first to check if it chokes on anything odd
[01:11] <alextj> lame -V2 --vbr-new input.wav output.mp3
[01:11] <HouseJackBuilt> Zewey: Will do thanks.
[01:11] <btaylor> alextj: like this... lame "$file" output.mp3
[01:11] <alextj> how do I combine the one that you gave me and mine
[01:11] <jrib> alextj: instead of the command  echo $file, you use lame $file with proper syntax...
[01:11] <genii> jrib Yes, that is a workable solution.
[01:11] <alextj> alright, thanks
[01:11] <alextj> ill try
[01:12] <firestorm> can anyone help me with this error message?
[01:12] <jrib> alextj: create a practice directory for you to practice
[01:12] <Nexium[absent] > ya du monde -_-'
[01:13] <jamison_> hello everyone
[01:13] <firestorm> exo:mount cannot mount by HAL device UDI, because HAL support was disabled for this build
[01:14] <ikonia> firestorm: hal is disabled so gnome can't interact with it to mount you're device
[01:14] <rtpca65> hello
[01:14] <ikonia> firestorm: what version of ubuntu are you running
[01:14] <firestorm> 6.10
[01:14] <ikonia> firestorm: desktop or server
[01:14] <firestorm> desktop
[01:14] <ikonia> firestorm: thats very strange that hal would be disabled
[01:14] <firestorm> i use xfce desktop
[01:15] <ikonia> ahhhhh
[01:15] <cnc-lala> I cannot seem to get DRI working on my friend's Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 running a GeForce 4 MX440 despite installing the nvidia prop. drivers from the repositories. glxinfo says no dri even if i manually edit the file... :(
[01:15] <ikonia> xfce isn't hal/dbus aware
[01:15] <cnc-lala> any1 had this?
[01:15] <firestorm> and few days ago i updtaed to xfce 4.4.0 and devices mount crash!
[01:15] <jamison_> have you tried the driver from nividia site?
[01:15] <rtpca65> can anyone help me with this,Uncompressing Linux... UK, booting the kernal.  I got that for 2 hours with the liveCD
[01:15] <ikonia> cnc-lala: try nvidia legacy drivers
[01:16] <ikonia> firestorm: did you update xfce from the ubuntu repo's ?
[01:16] <ikonia> jamison_: thats not recommneded, more so on an old card
[01:16] <jamison_> what is the best IRC client for lunux?
[01:16] <firestorm> i downloaded it from the website and i used the graphic installer
[01:16] <ikonia> jamison_: thats just personal taste try them see what you think
[01:16] <cnc-lala> cnc-lala: do they work with the GeForce series? cuz the description says differently
[01:16] <cnc-lala> so nvidia.com is the way to go...
[01:17] <ikonia> firestorm: there you go then, this is nothing to do with ubuntu - the 3rd part packages don't work
[01:17] <ikonia> cnc-lala: no
[01:17] <gemeindebau> jamison_: personally i love the ff plugin chatzilla
[01:17] <cnc-lala> no to nvidia.com?
[01:17] <ikonia> cnc-lala: no
[01:17] <btaylor> jamison_: three popular clients are xchat, bitchx, and irssi... there are plenty more
[01:17] <Fiish> cnc-lala, why would you want DRI enabled?
[01:17] <ikonia> Fiish: why would he not
[01:18] <cnc-lala> Fiish: My friend wants Compiz
[01:18] <ikonia> cnc-lala: well for starters your card is old and may not be up to it - but use the nvidia legacy drivers as its an older card
[01:18] <firestorm> ikonia: i can fix this HAL problems
[01:18] <Fiish> cnc-lala, DRI is not an option with the new nvidia drivers
[01:18] <firestorm> ikonia: ?
[01:18] <ikonia> firestorm: no
[01:18] <jamison_> has anyone had problems configuring kiba-dock?
[01:18] <ikonia> jamison_: on
[01:18] <ikonia> no
[01:19] <cnc-lala> ikonia: We ran this Kooroka demo or whatever which shows the Compiz effects and it did so fine w/o crashing
[01:19] <cnc-lala> on his PC
[01:19] <cnc-lala> so it's not that
[01:19] <cnc-lala> and why is DRI not an option anymore?
[01:19] <ikonia> cnc-lala: are you deaf ?
[01:19] <sacater> Fiish: erm thats not working, and when i do 'ftp #IP address' it says 'ftp: Unknown Error Number' are you SURE i dont have to enable any kind of weird daemon?
[01:19] <cnc-lala> what is used instead to enable rendering?
[01:20] <ikonia> cnc-lala: I've told you 3 times try the nvidia legacy drivers from the ubuntu repo's as this is a GF4 which is classed as an old card
[01:20] <firestorm> ikonia: and why i can mount devices with last XFCE's unnastable version?
[01:20] <Fiish> cnc-lala, in fact if u have the dri module loading in xorg.con, u should comment it out
[01:20] <ikonia> firestorm: speak to the packagers
[01:20] <firestorm> ikonia: ok
[01:20] <cnc-lala> Fiish: I did that
[01:20] <battlesquid> rkhunter says about SSH "Watch out Root login possible. Possible risk!" i have not set the root password on my ubuntu 6.10 desktop, because i always use sudo. so i assume the root password is scrambled into oblivion?
[01:20] <cnc-lala> ikonia: sorry, don't slap me :) i'll try that
[01:20] <ikonia> battlesquid: it doesn't exist
[01:21] <Fiish> sacater, to use ftp u need to enable ftp server in ur linux box, for windows shares just browse you network places.
[01:21] <rambo3> battlesquid, it is unexisting char for password
[01:21] <firestorm> ikonia: then, do you think the problem is new XFCE version??
[01:21] <battlesquid> ikonia, meaning there's no root user?
[01:21] <cnc-lala> it's just that the description said it's more for tnt and riva cards
[01:21] <sacater> Fiish: how do i enable FTP server? what command?
[01:21] <cnc-lala> thank you guys a lot!
[01:21] <Fiish> sacater, u dont need to ftp in ur home network if u have samba running
[01:21] <battlesquid> rambo3, explain please
[01:21] <redguy> battlesquid: meaning that root's password is not set
[01:21] <sacater> Fiish: na, i want to use ftp
[01:21] <sacater> Fiish: whats the command to enable the ftp server?
[01:21] <ikonia> firestorm: I'll explain it one more time. 1.) you got the packages from a 3rd party - not ubuntu so this is nothing to do with ubuntu 2.) speak to the package maintainers - this is there issue 3.) the packages where built without hal and dbus support
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> sacater: then you will need to install a ftp server
[01:22] <sacater> c0nv1ct: right
[01:22] <sacater> c0nv1ct: instrcutions?
[01:22] <ikonia> sacater: use synaptic
[01:22] <ForgeAus> hey all does anyone know how to run the Kubuntu upgrade tool?
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> sacater: open your package manager, type 'ftp server' and click search
[01:23] <firestorm> ikonia: thanx for your time
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> ForgeAus: just open Adept Manager and click 'full upgrade'
[01:23] <Fiish> sacater, u need to configure an ftp server, but
[01:24] <redguy> battlesquid: the hash of the root's password is invalid - there is no such character
[01:24] <redguy> battlesquid: oops, the "- there is no such character" is wrong
[01:24] <Fiish> sacater, if u do then ur /home/dad folder will be accesible from everywhere in the internet, not just your home network
[01:24] <battlesquid> redguy, allright, so it's impossible to login as root locally or via ssh
[01:25] <redguy> battlesquid: no character sequence would generate such hash
[01:25] <redguy> battlesquid: true, but disabling root logins via ssh is a Good Thing IMHO
[01:25] <abadi2005> I can't sync my O2 XDII with IRDA, what should I do
[01:25] <genii> redguy I tend to agree
[01:25] <idefix> how far is this Personal Security Manager developed? is it al ready and done?
[01:25] <redguy> battlesquid: suppose you set the root password one day and forget to disable root logins via ssh
[01:26] <battlesquid> redguy, just did it for the sake of good habits
[01:26] <Fiish> sacater,  for home networking samba is easier, more secure, and faster than setting up an ftp server
[01:26] <ForgeAus> um c0nvict it told me to close adept and run the kubuntu upgrade tool
[01:26] <battlesquid> redguy, i will never set the root password but i see your point
[01:26] <ForgeAus> but I can't find it in the kmenu anywhere and don't know where the upgrade tool is
[01:27] <abadi2005> How to sync O2 XDAII using infra red?
[01:28] <ubuntu_> im on ubuntu ultimate live mode and cant access my sata drive partitions can someone help me?
[01:28] <Lcarsdata> bobsumone> then id be more than happy to smoke again
 I have a windows laptop with a network port and a linux desktop also with a network port. Is it possible to set up a proxy on Windows PC sot the Linux one can use the interent
[01:28] <Lcarsdata> sorryu
[01:28] <yeti> hi :) i have a problem with make-kpkg. it says to me it can't finish because i use nvidia and rivafb is activated. but rivafb is not activated in my kernel config, and it was not activated when i compiled the kernel either. does anyone know this problem?
[01:29] <b0nd> i would like to install kylix in ubuntu dapper. does it have a specific install name. I get package not found repeatedly.
[01:30] <Askar> Hi! Does anyone know if GIMP has an IRC-channel?
[01:30] <battlesquid> redguy, as ubuntu suggests using sudo shouldn't the ubuntu package for sshd be configured to Remote root login disabled ?
[01:30] <sacater> Fiish: well ill do it on the internet if i have to
[01:30] <yeti> Askar: #gimp
[01:30] <sacater> Fiish: but id much rather use ftp
[01:30] <rambo3> doesn't gnome -dev have its own irc network.
[01:31] <redguy> battlesquid: I am suprised that it isn't ...
[01:31] <battlesquid> redguy, i don't know if this is the place to suggest it but the package maintainers should do something
[01:31] <erUSUL> rambo3: gimpnet iirc
[01:31] <markus_nagler> @sacater: if you're savy enough to set up an ftp-server and secure it properly, you don't need help installing one. If you're not that savy, do what is suggested to you.
[01:31] <Fiish> sacater, try the sudo apt-get install proftpd server
[01:32] <redguy> battlesquid: launchpad.net would be the right place I suppose
[01:32] <erUSUL> battlesquid: issue a bug repport in launchpad
[01:32] <battlesquid> will do
[01:32] <abadi2005> How to sync O2 XDAII using infra red?
[01:32] <sacater> Fiish: what about vsftpd, its recommended in instructions
[01:32] <jamison_> when you do an apt-get where are the files stored
[01:33] <yeti> jamison_: /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:33] <erUSUL> jamison_: the deb package? or the app files after instalation?
[01:33] <Fiish> sacater, i used proftpd in the past and it works fine, but for any ftp server u need to be very carefull to secure it properly as markus_nagler said
[01:33] <Askar> hm Is there a way to make a kind of gray background in gimp that you work on like in photoshop? =-O
[01:33] <sacater> Fiish: okies
[01:34] <Scalar> askar do u mean in any windowed state
[01:34] <adrian_> Hello!
[01:34] <Scalar> or when the current image is full frame
[01:34] <Scalar> ?
[01:34] <Fiish> sacater, ftp server setup is not an easy thing to do properly both in linux or windows and needs to be done carefully
[01:34] <PirateHead> hello adrain_
[01:34] <Scalar> Askar photoshop has several states for windows, and it even varies between mac, pc & unix versions
[01:34] <Askar> Scalar: I mean..hmm..all the windows I open in gimp..I want them on a gray background that covers the screen
[01:35] <jamison_> The deb package
[01:35] <ekimus> hmm what do I do if update-initramfs says: "udev hook script requires at least kernel version 2.6.19" all I have is a xen 2.6.16 kernel
[01:35] <Scalar> Askar, that's a UI level issue
[01:35] <PirateHead> Askar: you might want to look up the "dewierdifier" plugin. I think that's what it's called.
[01:35] <Demeskus> I'm confused. I have the Live boot CD. How can I install Ubuntu permanently on my computer?
[01:35] <Scalar> the windowing system you use doesn't do modal applications
[01:35] <Scalar> but
[01:35] <adrian_> I want to make a shortcut to on of my harddrives and put it on my top panel on the desktop. How do I do that?
[01:35] <Askar> PirateHead: willdo thanks
[01:35] <Scalar> there is a port of gimp
[01:35] <Scalar> that is setup to imitate photoshop as close as possible
 what about both
[01:36] <Askar> scalar: what is it called?
[01:36] <PirateHead> Demeskus: there ought to be an icon on your desktop when you boot up that is named "Install". Double-clicking that icon will initiate a permanent install process.
[01:36] <erUSUL> ekimus: are you on feisty?
[01:36] <Demeskus> Ah. Thanks. :)
[01:36] <the-cnc> PirateHead: isn't the dewierdifier only available for the Windows version of GimpShop
[01:36] <the-cnc> ?
[01:36] <PirateHead> the-cnc: I have only heard about it, I have never used it. =D
[01:36] <Scalar> gimp shop: http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[01:36] <PirateHead> the-cnc: It sounds like what he wants, though.
[01:36] <erUSUL> jamison_: if you want to know the paths for the files of a package just do 'dpkg -L packagename'
[01:37] <the-cnc> PirateHead: dewierdifying is only available for the windows version, sadly :( I also miss it on Linux
will that lead to the .deb or the app file?
[01:37] <rabe> hi
[01:37] <Peyvand> Dows anybody know how i can open a RAR file in Linus?
[01:37] <Kooka> re
[01:38] <the-cnc> try Krita, it's pretty good by now! and it's all in 1 window
[01:38] <Lamego> Peyvand, go to the package manager and search for "rar"
[01:38] <Kooka> with mc?
[01:38] <adrian_> Anyone know how to make a shortcut of one harddisc to a panel on the desktop?
[01:38] <jrib> !rar | Peyvand
[01:38] <ubotu> Peyvand: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:38] <howkey> Peyvand, unrar . no source available
[01:38] <ekimus> erUSUL: nope but this box is quite heavily used for testing so there is a good chance that feisty packages are already installed...will try in ubuntu+1 anyway
[01:38] <PirateHead> the-cnc: I don't like Photoshop or The GIMP. They are both slow to load and difficult to use. I wish there were a more agile image editor for Linux!
[01:38] <Peyvand> Does anybody how i can open a RAR file in Linux?
[01:38] <erUSUL> jamison_: it will dsiplay the app instaled files...
[01:38] <Kooka> Peyvand, with mc
[01:38] <jrib> adrian_: just create a launcher that opens the directory where you mounted the partition
[01:38] <Peyvand> Mc?
[01:38] <PirateHead> !info unrar-free | Peyvand
[01:38] <idefix> who of you uses PSM?
[01:38] <ubotu> peyvand: unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:38] <jrib> Peyvand: see what ubotu just said
[01:38] <erUSUL> jamison_: deb files are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and you can clean them with 'sudo apt-get autoclean'
[01:38] <rabe> gparted show an ! at my window partion and sais invalid argument
[01:39] <Kooka> or u unrar the archive
[01:39] <adrian_> jrib: how do I do that?
[01:39] <jrib> adrian_: right click on the panel > add to panel > create launcher
[01:39] <rabe> is that normal cause it is ntfs or
[01:39] <PirateHead> !7-zip | Peyvand
[01:39] <Peyvand> okok
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7-zip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <PirateHead> Doesn't know about 7-zip?
[01:39] <Peyvand> Shoul i download Unrar?
[01:39] <PirateHead> pfft
[01:39] <jrib> !7z
[01:39] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:39] <Peyvand> 7-Zip?
[01:39] <jamison_> erUSUL_ cool thanks
[01:40] <jrib> !7-zip is <alias> 7z
[01:40] <PirateHead> Peyvand: 7-zip can unrar files, as well as do many archiving functions.
[01:40] <Peyvand> What shoul i write in Terminal?
[01:40] <Peyvand> to download it?
[01:40] <StoneNote> !p7zip
[01:40] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 944 kB
[01:40] <jrib> Peyvand: read the link ubotu gave you, it explains exactly what you need to do
[01:40] <eNeSKa> #ubuntu-pl
[01:40] <adrian_> jrib: under which categori is this this launcer you speak of?
[01:41] <Peyvand> I dont see any links
[01:41] <jrib> adrian_: it should be a button at the top
[01:41] <jrib> !rar | Peyvand
[01:41] <ubotu> Peyvand: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:42] <Peyvand> But i cant open a RAR file
[01:42] <PirateHead> Peyvand: type this
[01:43] <PirateHead> sudo apt-get install p7zip
[01:43] <PirateHead> that will install the 7-zip archiver
[01:43] <Peyvand> that s wrong
[01:44] <jrib> Peyvand: did you do what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression said?
[01:44] <PirateHead> What is wrong?
[01:44] <Peyvand> yes
[01:44] <jrib> Peyvand: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy unrar'
[01:44] <Peyvand> Nothing happpens when i write sudo apt-get install p7zip
[01:44] <adrian_> jrib: i think i did that but then only my disc, like cd/dvd appears and is able to be mounted mounted?
[01:44] <PirateHead> Peyvand: are you using ubuntu? =P
[01:44] <PirateHead> Peyvand: what happens when you type
[01:44] <jrib> adrian_: huh?
[01:44] <PirateHead> apt-get --help
[01:44] <Peyvand> No
[01:44] <Peyvand> I use Parsix
[01:45] <PirateHead> Peyvand, perhaps this is not the right channel to look for help in?
[01:45] <Peyvand> How can i get help then?
[01:45] <PirateHead> Peyvand: Many users here, including myself, are not very familiar with parsix and have limited ability to help you.
[01:45] <adrian_> jrib: I choose something called disc mounter
[01:45] <Peyvand> okok :(
[01:45] <abadi2005> how to configure infra red?
[01:45] <PirateHead> !parsix
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parsix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Peyvand> ok thanks anyway
[01:46] <jrib> adrian_: so you want to know how to mount your other partition?
[01:46] <Askar> PirateHead: http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb :D
[01:46] <kira> hi leute
[01:46] <march> Peyvand: you also may try: rar  / unrar / unrar-free
[01:46] <PirateHead> Askar: working well for you?
[01:47] <kira> verwendet jemand von euch KDE? Wenn ja. Wie stelle ich es ab, das er mir nach 15min. den monitor nicht auf standby stellt
[01:47] <PirateHead> !de | kira
[01:47] <ubotu> kira: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:47] <adrian_> jrib, yeah how to mount my harddrives directly from the panel without having to go to the filesystem dir
[01:47] <kira> ok
[01:47] <march> kira: dort mte es systemeinstellungen geben - mom schaue nach
[01:47] <Fiish> why would someone using Parsix ask for help in an ubuntu channel instead of Parsix channel?
[01:48] <jrib> adrian_: there is no way to do that that I know of.  Just set them up once in /etc/fstab and then never worry about them again.  What filesystem is this?
[01:48] <PirateHead> Fiish: looks to me like the parsix channel is deserted.
[01:48] <march> kira: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SystemSettings eventuell hilft dir das weiter
[01:49] <abadi2005> how to configure infrared?
[01:49] <adrian_> jrib: ntfs is the filesystem on this hdd
[01:49] <jrib> !ntfs | adrian_
[01:49] <ubotu> adrian_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:49] <kaktus> Hi! I'm a widnowsuser that is curious about installing linux, because I'm tired of all the problems in Windows
[01:49] <gays> I need to chmod a directory for AWStats, how do i do it? =P
[01:49] <kaktus> Could someone help me on the way?
[01:50] <PirateHead> kaktus: you came to the right place. :-)
[01:50] <Huffalump> My audio has been working fine for months, until something changed about 2 days ago.  When Ubuntu boots, I can hear the little drum beat just fine.  After I login with my account, there is no sound at all.  As a test, I created a new user and switched to that account, where the audio works just fine!  I need help figuring out what's wrong with audio in my main account.
[01:50] <PirateHead> kaktus: Whenever you have specific questions or run into problems, you can ask here.
[01:50] <kaktus> Will you help me choosing the right distro please?
[01:50] <PirateHead> kaktus: Ubuntu is a good place to start. (www.ubuntu.com)
[01:50] <jrib> kaktus: we are probably a bit biased, but ubuntu is a very nice distro :)
[01:51] <nitro4ce> hi. i installed the nvidia drivers. When i start xorg 7.1, my computer freezes at a black screen. the first time i started X with the nvidia drivers, my computer freezed at the nvidia logo, but now even that logo doesnt appear.
[01:51] <Huffalump> kaktus - If you're a  new refuge from Windows, you probably cannot do  better than Ubuntu
[01:51] <adrian_> jrib: what do you mean by !ntfs ?
[01:51] <Fiish> Has anyone found a workaround to access vista shares with samba? Samba wont support Vista shares untill the next release apparently ;/
[01:51] <Huffalump> kaktus - 99.9% of the time, it "just works" and if you hit a snag, the community is great
[01:51] <jrib> adrian_: it instructs ubotu to tell you about mounting ntfs partitions
[01:51] <kaktus> So I've heard :)
[01:51] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: passwd -a username audio
[01:51] <adrian_> uboto: okey, i'll try that one out, thanks
[01:51] <AsusM2N-MX> how do i update the mbr?
[01:51] <Scalar> i am installing ubuntu 6.10 server off of an iso download that verifies fine on cd. When I boot (after install) it immediately crashes the kernetl & restarts. Instantly. I have tried noapic pci=noacpi acpi=off and still get the same result. Any further ideas?
[01:51] <PirateHead> kaktus: Other popular choices are Fedora/CentOS (free Red Hat-like distros) and Linspire linux (not free, but very very friendly to former Windows users)
[01:51] <Scalar> also, unbuntu desktop installed & worked fine on the same pc
[01:52] <adrian_> jrib: don't get me wrong, I have found the hdd in the system and it working great and all
[01:52] <kaktus> So....I've been reading a bit about something called PClinuxOS. Saw a video, downloaded a liveCD, and got impressed of the simplicity...!
[01:52] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, I got what looks like a man page or something?  It's explaining to me how to use the command.  I entered  " passwd -a {myusername} audio "
[01:52] <jrib> adrian_: so you can view the files?  Where is it mounted?
[01:52] <kaktus> On the other hand, I managed to make the distro hang ;P
[01:53] <PirateHead> kaktus: I have never been particularly impressed by PClinuxOS, but you may certianly try it to see how it works for you.
[01:53] <march> nitro4ce: edit xorg.conf -- inSection "Device" ->  Option     "NoLogo"           "on"
[01:53] <Scalar> someone mind offering a hand?
[01:53] <adrian_> jrib: in my filesystem dir
[01:53] <jrib> adrian_: pastebin the output of this command:  mount
[01:53] <kaktus> I am dependent of NTFS access for my files on an external disk
[01:53] <Huffalump> kaktus - NTFS is a problem
[01:53] <kaktus> everything worked fine yesterday on the live CD, but Is it possible to write to disks with NTFS file system?
[01:54] <PirateHead> kaktus: there is a project providing write access to NTFS partitions. However, you can also reformat your external disk to ext-3 unless it needs to be interoperable with Windows XP.
[01:54] <kaktus> But the external disk is backup which I need to access!
[01:54] <Scalar> could someone lend a hand?
[01:54] <Huffalump> kaktus - You're going to have some difficulties, if you cannot convert that external drive to Win32
[01:54] <jamison_> Can someone tell me the command to remove an installtion
[01:54] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: hmm run this: gpasswd -a username audio
[01:55] <Huffalump> er FAT32
[01:55] <jrib> jamison_: of ubuntu?
[01:55] <VII> help. I installed wine, and since then my mouse rarly does anything. I can see the pointer, but nothing happens when I click
[01:55] <joh> Anyone gotten 3D acceleration to work on ATI Radeon 9600 M10 with the R300 driver?
[01:55] <VII> I can move it aswell
[01:55] <jamison_> I want to remove kiba dock
[01:55] <adrian_> jrib: i don't understand what you mean, should I use the terminal and write in !ntfs | then mount and then the adress to the dir?
[01:55] <jrib> jamison_: how did you install it?
[01:55] <kaktus> I know that mac has software called "parallell" which enables the user to run two operating system at once, eg. OSX and WinXP
[01:55] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, should I run that as sudo?  otherwise, permission denied.
[01:55] <jamison_> apt-get install
[01:55] <jrib> adrian_: no, just 'mount'.  The !ntfs stuff is a command that the bot called "ubotu" recognizes on irc
[01:56] <kaktus> is this possible in UBuntu=
[01:56] <kaktus> ?
[01:56] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: indeed
[01:56] <VII> so I tried to uninstall wine, but then I got some error message about not being able to caprture my mouse and some evil application.
[01:56] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: as root
[01:56] <Fiish> kaktus, make it FAT and it would be fine for vista and linux, MS unfortunately refuses to release specifications for the NTFS so the community had to reverse-engineer it
[01:56] <jrib> jamison_: apt-get remove PACKAGE_NAME
[01:56] <jrib> !apt | jamison_
[01:56] <ubotu> jamison_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:56] <PirateHead> kaktus: you can restore your backup onto a hard drive and then reformat the drive and restore the files to it, if you like
[01:56] <AsusM2N-MX> i am about to install a new distro on another partition, will i be able to boot frm this new partition without affecting other distros on other partitions?
[01:56] <abadi2005> help me on infra re please
[01:56] <jamison_> Thanks again
[01:57] <kaktus> Problem: The external disk is bigger than the disk on the computer :)
[01:57] <PirateHead> AsusM2N-MX: yes, unless you mount those other partitions.
[01:57] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, it added myusernname to the group
[01:57] <wizo> hey, i installed ubuntu 6.06 server edition, and i did a sudo apt-get intall xserver-xorg xfonts-base fluxbox xterm, now when i type startx into console, it doesnt load, what am i missing?
[01:57] <malik_> any1 from turkey?
[01:57] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, it added myusernname to the group audio
[01:57] <adrian_> jrib: and I mount through the launcer then, correct?
[01:57] <jrib> adrian_: this command is for me to just understand what is going on, I'm a bit confused
[01:57] <kaktus> I have more files on the ext. HDD than free space on the local HDD
[01:57] <Huffalump> kaktus - NTFS is going to be a limitation for you.
[01:57] <PirateHead> kaktus: I see. Huffalump is correct -- NTFS will be a limitation.
[01:58] <AsusM2N-MX> PirateHead: what do u mean by unless ?
[01:58] <Fiish> kaktus, u can convert to FAT from within Windows without losing data i think, i am not sure whether GPart can do that also
[01:58] <kbrooks> ntfs-3g - read!
[01:58] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g
[01:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:58] <kaktus> is it possible to run windows in linux?
[01:58] <kbrooks> warning: read the warning!
[01:58] <PirateHead> kaktus: yes, in a few ways.
[01:58] <adrian_> jrib: that's makes two of us
[01:58] <js_> kaktus: yes, using vmware
[01:58] <march> kaktus: use vmware
[01:58] <kaktus> so that I can access the files on the external...
[01:58] <jrib> adrian_: the output from that command will clear things up for me
[01:59] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: great. now you have permission to use the audio with that user.
[01:59] <Huffalump> kaktus - I have run Windows as a virtual machine inside of Linux, using vmware
[01:59] <PirateHead> kaktus: You can use vmware, QEMU, or others. You can also run Windows programs in compatability mode using Wine.
[01:59] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, I have no sound =] 
[01:59] <nitro4ce> Huffalump: reboot
[01:59] <Huffalump> aha
[01:59] <adrian_> jrib: I don't know where to paste in !ntfs even?
[01:59] <VII> Anyone know whats wrong with my mouse? Nothing happens when I click.
[01:59] <kaktus> Because I will be "locked" to comps. running linux if I want to transfer files to eg. windows comps!
[01:59] <jrib> adrian_: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[01:59] <Huffalump> thanks, nitro4ce
[01:59] <Huffalump> back soon.
[02:00] <PirateHead> AsusM2N-MX: your new OS, by default, won't touch file systems that it hasn't mounted. If you put it on a new partition and load only that partition, your other should not be disturbed.
[02:00] <yeti> wizo: try installing "xorg" instead of just xorg-xserver
[02:00] <kaktus> I've heard that there is a spacelimitation on FAT32 partitions..
[02:00] <kaktus> 32 GB=
[02:00] <kaktus> ?
[02:00] <abadi2005> infra red please
[02:00] <PirateHead> kaktus: I don't think that is true.
[02:00] <kaktus> my external HDD is 320GB :P
[02:00] <wizo> yeti, oh ok, so i have to apt-get that too?
[02:00] <VII> uhm, my mouse ******. now everytime I click gaims buddy list pops up
[02:01] <kaktus> Can I change filesystem without harming the files?
[02:01] <PirateHead> kaktus: not for sure. How full is the drive?
[02:01] <wizo> yeti, xorg comes up with alot of hits on apt-cache search
[02:01] <h1st0> kaktus: only in windows like converting fat32 to NTFS etc...
[02:01] <kaktus> let's see....
[02:01] <Fiish> kaktus, the limitation exeists for FAT16, FAT32 works fine on large disks, it is not a journaling FS like ext3 and NTFS but its well tried and reliable
[02:01] <ghost> is it possible that some (7 years) old hard ware does not work with a 40 GB HD?
[02:01] <AsusM2N-MX> PirateHead: will i still be able to boot the other partitions? im afraid update-grub wipes out the boot info for other partitions
[02:01] <howkey> kaktus, fat32 is limited to 8TB, ca. 8000GB
[02:02] <kaktus> ;)
[02:02] <yeti> wizo: yeah, apt-get install xorg
[02:02] <federico90> hi
[02:02] <howkey> kaktus, see http://faq.arstechnica.com/link.php?i=1820
[02:02] <h1st0> ghost: yes.
[02:02] <koala_man> I have a laptop with a compaq w200 wlan card (which requires compiling your own drivers apparently), but no disk. how would I go about booting it from a livecd and letting it access the wlan?
[02:02] <h1st0> ghost: If thats the case a bios update can fix that.
[02:02] <PirateHead> AsusM2N-MX: I do not know how update-grub works. If you're in doubt, make sure to back up your /boot/grub directory.
[02:02] <kaktus> Fiish: what is a journaling FS ?
[02:02] <wizo> yeti, it says cant find package org
[02:02] <ghost> h1st0: is there nothing i can do except putting in a smaller HD?
[02:02] <wizo> xorg*
[02:03] <howkey> kaktus, a geeky thing which is nice to have on its system partition, not so important for backup drives.
[02:03] <h1st0> ghost: Does the drive come up in the bios properly?  Or what is it detected as?
[02:03] <ghost> h1st0 bios update, ok but how can i do one wihtout a hd? is it possible trough live-cD?
[02:03] <PirateHead> Fiish: a journaling filesystem keeps a record of changes to it.
[02:03] <VII> can someone help me with my mouse? Ive tried rebooting, but its still acting REALLY werid
[02:03] <PirateHead> Fiish: it is actually a liability for backup drives because it decreases efficiency.
[02:03] <ghost> h1st0: the bios should be updated as it's 7 years old, but how? and the drive does not really come up
[02:03] <Fiish> kaktus, filessystems such as ReisesFS, ext3, NTFS keep a journal of changes thus making data recovery easier
[02:04] <kaktus> how is support for USB 2.0?
[02:04] <PirateHead> Why was I saying "Fiish"? I meant kaktus:
[02:04] <Scalar> quick grub question
[02:04] <PirateHead> kaktus: support for USB 2.0 is fine
[02:04] <h1st0> ghost: Did you go in to the bios and detect the drive?  Or do you have the controller on auto detect?
[02:04] <Scalar> in grub, i choose 'e' to edit a line then 'return' to commit the line
[02:04] <Fiish> PirateHead, I agree, for backups, I think FAT or ext2 is better
[02:04] <Scalar> what do i do to commit the whole item?
[02:04] <ghost> h1st0: auto-detect
[02:04] <h1st0> ghost: Also if this is a new drive, double check your jumpers on it.  i.e. master / slave / cable select
[02:04] <Scalar> i was using 'b' to boot the item but i'm not sure that actually commits changes?
[02:04] <howkey> fiish, fat for best interoperability
[02:04] <kaktus> To the person that asked about it : My disk is half full..
[02:04] <rambo3> Scalar, it doesnt
[02:04] <genie> salaam
[02:05] <Scalar> how do i commit them rambo3?
[02:05] <rambo3> Esalam allejkum
[02:05] <ghost> h1st0: hmm. i tried alls combination :-)
[02:05] <PirateHead> scalar: you must edit /boot/grub/menu.list in order to commit the change permanently.
[02:05] <yeti> wizo: strange. are you using edgy?
[02:05] <ghost> h1st0: or which one should i use?
[02:05] <h1st0> ghost: well is there another drive on the cable with it?
[02:05] <wizo> im using 6.06
[02:05] <PirateHead> afk
[02:05] <Scalar> so i can't commit it from within grub then?
[02:05] <genie> hello every body, there is a arabic language pack for OpenOffice ?
[02:05] <mackinac> Scalar: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:05] <yeti> wizo: oh okay. don't know what the package was called back then
[02:05] <Scalar> i am unable to boot this install at all so....
[02:05] <h1st0> !away | PirateHead|AFK
[02:05] <ubotu> PirateHead|AFK: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> Scalar: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:05] <ghost> h1st0: no, it's connected to the blue one on the mobo is that matters
[02:05] <rambo3> Scalar, no ides , i would think changing menu.lst would be enough
[02:05] <wizo> yeti, 6.06 server edition.. ah ok
[02:05] <ghost> h1st0: ide, not ata
[02:06] <h1st0> ghost: But that is the only drive connected to that cable?
[02:06] <mirak> I want to reinstall my ubuntu edgy which is old from hoary probably, can I go for a feisty CD or should I take edgy and upgrade ?
[02:06] <Scalar> IndyGunFreak, I can't sudo because I can't boot =p
[02:06] <LupinZX> hi, i'm wondering if I could get some help, i've somehow messed up my sources.list file in the apt folder by putting in an extra line, does anyone know how I can get rid of it
[02:06] <ghost> h1st0: yes
[02:06] <h1st0> ghost: Okay well you would want to set it as Master
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> Scalar: oh ok, sorry i misunderstood.... so you're not seeing grub at all?
[02:06] <yeti> wizo: check the xorg packages in your adept/synaptics and look for soomething that says "meta package" in its description
[02:06] <Scalar> i see grub
[02:06] <h1st0> ghost: What type of drive is it?
[02:06] <howkey> kaktus, the you can convert by repartitioning. more information at http://faq.arstechnica.com/link.php?i=1820
[02:06] <ghost> h1st0: i did, but still it doesn't show up :-(
[02:06] <Scalar> ubuntu won't boot on a server install (LAMP install)
[02:06] <yeti> wizo: maybe x-window-system, or xorg-window-system, or something like that, dunno.
[02:06] <kaktus> howkey: I have very bad experience with Partition Magic.... Destroyed most of my data :(
[02:06] <Scalar> ubuntu desktop installed fine but i've overwritten that now
[02:06] <h1st0> ghost: Who makes the drive?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Scalar: you've overwritten ubuntu, or you've overwritten grub?
[02:07] <btaylor> LupinZX: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:07] <wizo> xinit?
[02:07] <Scalar> i first installed ubuntu desktop
[02:07] <Scalar> edgy
[02:07] <howkey> kaktus, you can repartition with a liveCD. I used knoppix e.g.
[02:07] <Scalar> it worked fine but is overkill for what i need
[02:07] <LupinZX> i'll try, hang on
[02:07] <VoV> ~~~ 3audu,3aperectpupyuca u poly4u 0,10$ ~~~
[02:07] <VoV> http://www.buker.ru/?ref=TEJIO
[02:07] <genie> any body know if there is a package like Arabic Language Pack for OpenOffice ?
[02:07] <Scalar> i want a LAMP box in the closet to bang on
[02:07] <Scalar> 6.10 server won't boot at all
[02:07] <Scalar> grub is fine
[02:07] <howkey> kaktus, takes its time though
[02:07] <h1st0> !patience > genie
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Scalar: i have no idea.
[02:07] <Scalar> when it starts the kernel it says "starting up..." and crashes immediately
[02:07] <rambo3> !info ubuntu-minimal
[02:07] <Scalar> instant reboot
[02:08] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:08] <h1st0> ghost: ?
[02:08] <ghost> h1st0: wd caviar 40 gb
[02:08] <ghost> h1st0: western digital
[02:08] <Scalar> ok so minimal
[02:08] <howkey> kaktus, nice GUI is qparted
[02:08] <VII> Nothing happens when i click my mouse... :o anyone?
[02:08] <Scalar> are there cd images for minimal?
[02:08] <steven43126> anyone here had ubuntu running on a HP proliant ML350 G5
[02:08] <Scalar> none of my working pc's has a floppy drive (although that one does)
[02:08] <h1st0> ghost: Okay the western digital drives are goofy if memory serves me correct.  If its the only drive on teh cable take the jumper for Master / Slave / Cable Select off of the drive
[02:09] <kaktus> Anyhow... I'll take backup  on CD or internal HDD of the files I have to keep, reformat the ext. HDD in windows to FAT32 so that I can read/write in linux, and then copy files back to EXT HDD.
[02:09] <rambo3> Scalar there is something wron with install then not grub
[02:09] <kaktus> Then install linux on internal HDD...
[02:09] <kaktus> Sounds like the best solution?
[02:09] <Scalar> rambo3 you are correct
[02:09] <ghost> h1st0: you mean remove it completely
[02:09] <Scalar> i am not saying grub is bad. I was trying adding various parameters to the boot from within grub
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Scalar: so just reinstall?
[02:09] <ghost> h1st0: describtion says "single or master", you mean that (iwhtout any jumper)?
[02:09] <Scalar> (pci=noacpi noapic nolapic acpi=off)
[02:10] <h1st0> ghost: Yes, also make sure in the BIOS that whatever controller its on i.e. Primary or Secondary are both set to AUTO
[02:10] <Lcarsdata> I have a windows laptop with a network port and a linux desktop also with a network port. Is it possible to set up a proxy on Windows PC sot the Linux one can use the internet. I have set up ICS, now what?
[02:10] <howkey> kaktus, Excellent.
[02:10] <Scalar> it was recommended by someone in here earlier.
[02:10] <rambo3> Scalar,it is still text boot you get ?
[02:10] <h1st0> ghost: is the picture for single havfe the jumper sideways?
[02:10] <Scalar> i get grub on boot
[02:10] <Huffalump> nitro4ce, there is still no sound
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> Lcarsdata: the "easiest" thing to do, would be to get a router, i'm not sure on the proxy though
[02:10] <kaktus> which tool can format my Ext. HDD in windows to FAT 32?
[02:10] <ghost> h1st0: ? i don't quite understand
[02:10] <Scalar> after grub I get 'starting up...' from the ubuntu kernel for about half a second then it reboots back to bios startup
[02:11] <HaoTian> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/65838 <--- This might be a silly question, but I'm at a loss.  How would I get around the bug listed there?
[02:11] <koala_man> if I boot a livecd and have a bit of ram, can I install packages?
[02:11] <h1st0> ghost: Just set it for Single
[02:11] <koala_man> without touching the disk
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> koala_man: a few
[02:11] <ghost> h1st0: you mean on the description? if , then yes
[02:11] <HaoTian> It says there's a "fix released"
[02:11] <h1st0> ghost: Or try with the jumper completely off.
[02:11] <LupinZX> okay, i've dited sources.list, how do I save it?
[02:11] <h1st0> ghost: Then go in tot he bios and make sure the controller its plugged in to is set for AUTO.  Or you can try detecting the drive in there.
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> koala_man: you may not be able to installr eally large ones, but you could probably install a few.. and no it won't effect the hard drive
[02:11] <rambo3> Scalar, reinstall .
[02:11] <ghost> h1st0: jumper completely off = single (at least that's waht it says)
[02:11] <VoV> ~~~ 3audu,3aperectpupyuca u poly4u 0,10$ ~~~
[02:11] <VoV> http://www.buker.ru/?ref=TEJIO
[02:12] <h1st0> ghost: Yes
[02:12] <Huffalump> kaktus  - Personally, I recomment Partition Magic... because I've never had a failure with it under Windows.
[02:12] <Scalar> rambo3 i am reinstalling again for the 4th time. I do not expect any different result.
[02:12] <Lcarsdata> IndyGunFreak: Unfortunatley that is not an option, my Windows laptop recives the internet via a wireless usb stick, I want it to send the internet to my desktop linux while still retaining the internet on the laptop.
[02:12] <kaktus> By the way, Which package of UBUNTU should I choose? Kubuntu? Xubuntu? Edubuntu? what's best for me?
[02:12] <ghost> h1st0: ok, thanks for your help so far. but you got any more things i could try ?
[02:12] <h1st0> ghost: Or sideways.  sideways = off since its not jumping to vertical pins
[02:12] <kaktus> what's the differenced?
[02:12] <koala_man> IndyGunFreak: is 1.2gb enough for the tools needed to compile kernel modules?
[02:12] <h1st0> ghost: Yes go in the bios and try to detect the drive.
[02:12] <Lcarsdata> kaktus: kubuntu is kde
[02:12] <rambo3> Scalar, i don't know then
[02:12] <h1st0> ghost: It should atleast come up in there.
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> koala_man: i'm not sure, but i'd say its unlikely.
[02:12] <Lcarsdata> kaktus: ubuntu is gnome
[02:12] <Huffalump> kaktus - Edu is for students.  Xubuntu is for freaks ;)  hehe.  Ubuntu or Kubuntu are the choices you should focus on.
[02:12] <Fiish> kaktus, chose ubuntu :)
[02:12] <ghost> h1st0: it did not :-(
[02:12] <Lcarsdata> kaktus: edu is for schools
[02:13] <eilker> how to convert *wav to *mp3 ?
[02:13] <Scalar> something is crashing the kernel and I'm guessing I could trap that with a parameter that removes whatever component is crashing it. But I don't know how to troubleshoot the boot. I'm guessing there should be logfiles?
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> eilker: there's a program called "Sound Recorder" that should have default installed w/ ubuntu, try it.
[02:13] <ghost> h1st0: is it possible that bios update could help?
[02:13] <Scalar> I could use a livecd to edit the grub startup files & see whatever logs are created on crash?
[02:13] <h1st0> ghost: Well then perhaps the drive is bad.  Even if the bios was far out of date it would still recognize that a drive was there.  Just wouldn't report its size properly most likely.
[02:14] <h1st0> ghost: Do you have a power cable plugged in to the drive?  And is it SATA or IDE?
[02:14] <ghost> h1st0: ide
[02:14] <mackinac> Scaler: editing grub files isn't any different than the manual editing you've done
[02:14] <LupinZX> How do I save files edited in nano?
[02:14] <howkey> kaktus, QtParted (KDE/kubuntu) or GParted (Gnome/Ubuntu) for repartitioning the drive. Don't know if they can format it, as well. You can format on the command line with 'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/...'
[02:15] <h1st0> ghost: Did you connect power to the drive?  Is it spinning up?  These are things to check for.
[02:15] <Lcarsdata> Huffalump: what makes xubuntu for freaks?
[02:15] <Fiish> LupinZX,  Ctrl-X
[02:15] <ghost> h1st0: but i'll try again in some hours as i'm not in front of it (still tired what you said before), and if it should detect it, what would be the next step?
[02:15] <jrib> LupinZX: ctrl-o
[02:15] <ghost> h1st0: yes, it's spinning (or gets warm)
[02:15] <h1st0> ghost: k
[02:15] <kaktuskatta> Bah....."Software caused connection abort"
[02:15] <LupinZX> Thanks alot guys :)
[02:16] <ghost> h1st0: are you still there in some hours (in 2-3h)?
[02:16] <h1st0> ghost: Maybe try the drive in another PC make sure its good.  Or try updating the bios.  You would have to find out who makes the motherboard.  And download the update from their site.
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Lcarsdata: there is nothing at all wrong with Xubuntu...
[02:16] <h1st0> ghost: Nah I will be sleeping but there are plenty of people on here who would be able to help you with basic hardware problems.
[02:16] <ghost> h1st0: ok, thanks
[02:17] <kaktuskatta> Sorry guys, for some reason I got disconnected. What is KDE?
[02:17] <jamison_> Can anyone tell me of a good docker to use with beryl. I tried to use kiba dock but i could not configure it?
[02:17] <shockwave1> hi
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> Lcarsdata: typically, Gnome/KDE are fairly resource heavy.  Xfce is an easy to use GUI, that is also light on resources, while still being 100% functional.... thats the main advantage of Xubuntu/Xfce.
[02:17] <bumzo> hi guys ...
[02:17] <Lcarsdata> ok
[02:17] <bumzo> need help in having write permission to my ntfs usb HDD
[02:17] <rambo3> E17 powns Xfce
[02:18] <frankzhao> !Xfce | me
[02:18] <ubotu> me: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Lcarsdata: i use it on my laptop, an old 1gh,z, 768mb RAM8(64 for video), 20gig hard drive, and it works perfect
[02:18] <h1st0> kaktuskatta: A different desktop environment
[02:18] <h1st0> !kubuntu > kaktuskatta
[02:18] <VII> Nothing happens when i click my mouse... :o anyone?
[02:18] <VoV> ~~~ 3audu,3aperectpupyuca u poly4u 0,10$ ~~~
[02:18] <VoV> http://www.buker.ru/?ref=TEJIO
[02:18] <PirateHead> VII: you can move, but it does not register clicks?
[02:18] <h1st0> VII: Did it ever work properly?
[02:18] <bumzo> somebody plese
[02:18] <jamison_> can you use X17 with Beryl?
[02:18] <VII> pirate yes
[02:18] <h1st0> VII: you can try launching xev from terminal to see whats going on.
[02:19] <VII> it started acting really weird after I installed wine
[02:19] <Huffalump> Lcarsdata - I was just going to say is an atypical installation for those who have old computers, so I was being silly by teasing a bit.
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> bumzo: write permission to NTFS is still fairly experimental....
[02:19] <PirateHead> !ntfs-3g | bumzo
[02:19] <ubotu> bumzo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:19] <h1st0> VII: I don't thing wine would really mess with your mouse
[02:19] <Demeskus> I tried to install "Envy" but it keeps giving me this error "Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant"
[02:19] <Demeskus> What's with that?
[02:19] <kaktuskatta> h1st0: Thanks
[02:19] <h1st0> !Envy > h1st0
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i followed what you were doing, but have you ever used it?... its every bit as functional as Gnome/KDE.. and actually, I prefer it to KDE.
[02:19] <h1st0> kaktuskatta: np
[02:20] <VII> it does register clicks, sometimes, to do that I have to first rightclick somewhere else
[02:20] <bumzo> piratehead: i have installed ntfs-3g .. i can write on my installed hard disks but not the usb one
[02:20] <shockwave1> can someone help me with azureus update. I am trying to update for a tracker plugin, but it keeps saying failed to install- opt/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.4.jar(permission denied
[02:20] <h1st0> VII: open a terminal and type in xev
[02:20] <VII> ok
[02:20] <h1st0> VII: So you can troubleshoot the mouse
[02:20] <PirateHead> bumzo: sorry, I don't know what the problem could be then.
[02:20] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - I suppose I could always try it in the future, yes.  After testing back and forth, I much prefer Gnome over KDE...  but... in the end, I want things like Beryl and other eyecandy.
[02:20] <jussi01> shockwave1, how is the update done? what kind of file?
[02:21] <Fiish> I hear that only people who have been abducted and probed by aliens use xubuntu :P
[02:21] <genie> hello any body know how to install openoffice.org-ar ?
[02:21] <jussi01> !offtopic | Fiish
[02:21] <jamison_> Looking For a good dock program anyone got any recs?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: yeah, but if you had a 700mhz PC, you;d probably prefer Xubuntu over Ubuntu/Kubuntu(at least in my experience), and almost definitely over Windows.
[02:21] <bumzo> indygunfreak: i can write on my installed hard disk ... but not the usb ntfs one ... how cum
[02:21] <ubotu> Fiish: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:21] <ikonia> genie: just get it out of synaptic
[02:21] <h1st0> genie: use synaptic
[02:21] <genie> thanks
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> bumzo: would it be too hard to go back into windows, format it as fat32, and put your music files back on it?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> bumzo: i told you i don't know..
[02:21] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - However, for another box?  I might try xubuntu just for "fun" and let it run for a week to see how it works differently.  My guess is that I'll go back to Gnome, but you never know until you try, eh?
[02:21] <h1st0> genie: system > administration > Synaptic
[02:21] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - If I had a 700mhz PC, I would end my life.
[02:21] <h1st0> genie: Then search for openoffice.org-ar
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: lol..
[02:22] <shockwave1> jussi01: it's automatic when I start azureus. but seems to be a . jar file if that helps
[02:22] <h1st0> genie: click it to mark it for installation.
[02:22] <kaktuskatta> Ok. I have made the decission: I'm installing linux ubuntu today ! :=) Which is the most stable version? I have desktop ubuntu 6.06.1 on liveCD.
[02:22] <PirateHead> Huffalump: have you tried E17? It's wierd, but it's cool too.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: you'd be amazed how Xubuntu runs on an older PC.. I was.
[02:22] <h1st0> kaktuskatta: there ya ggo
[02:22] <ikonia> kaktuskatta: 6.06
[02:22] <Huffalump> PirateHead, I have no idea what E17 is... so I'll go look it up
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> E17?
[02:22] <h1st0> kaktuskatta: 6.06 is Long term support
[02:22] <rambo3> Huffalump, E17
[02:22] <ekimus> does the edgy server kernel have more modules active than the installer cd? i'm currently debootstrapping edgy from feisty because the edgy cd won't boot because of lacking sata drivers...
[02:22] <jamison_> will x17 run with beryl?
[02:22] <colorred> 6.06 more stable than 6.10?
[02:22] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: Enlightment E17
[02:22] <ikonia> colorred: more support
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: oh ok.. tried it, hated it
[02:23] <VII> XEv worked somewhat :D
[02:23] <jussi01> shockwave1, it sounds like you need to g to thepath you mentioned and change the permisions so you can read and write
[02:23] <ikonia> jamison_: no
[02:23] <kaktuskatta> Can I upgrade to later versions of the OS later without installing the entire thing all over?
[02:23] <colorred> ikonia: support for packages and stuff?
[02:23] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, it's interesting that you drag me into talking about it... because I just now remember a distant family member whom I'm thinking to wean off Windows... and her computer is older-ish.  Xbuntu might be the way to go.
[02:23] <PirateHead> IndyGunFreak: what did you like least about it?
[02:23] <ikonia> colorred: yes, its the LTS "long term support" version - 6.10 is newer but changes more and is less stable
[02:23] <ikonia> by nature
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: ugly, nonfunctional compared to the other 3 "main" GUI's.. for me anyways
[02:23] <h1st0> kaktuskatta: absolutely
[02:23] <shockwave1> jussi01: how do i do that
[02:23] <h1st0> !upgrade > kaktuskatta
[02:24] <VII> I got output when I moved and clicked, but I wasnt able to close it = click outside the active window. so I had to use alt+ctrl+backspace :)
[02:24] <Huffalump> Enlightenment?
[02:24] <ikonia> Huffalump: enligtment ment E17
[02:24] <genie> package not found in Synaptic <openoffice.org-ar> any help?
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: you should, i put it on a younger sisters 800mhz Pentium III, and it works great....
[02:24] <h1st0> VII: alt+f4 should close active window
[02:24] <ikonia> genie: search for openoffice and find it
[02:24] <jamison_> I herd that E17 had animated wallpaper?
[02:24] <VII> ok
[02:24] <ikonia> jamison_: yes it does
[02:24] <jussi01> !permissions | shockwave1
[02:24] <ubotu> shockwave1: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:24] <rambo3> IndyGunFreak,  E17 or older version of enightenment
[02:24] <ikonia> !off-topic
[02:24] <PirateHead> You don't wanna *know* what I've put on IndyGunFreak's younger sisters...
[02:24] <h1st0> VII: Well you could try uninstalling wine though I doubt thats the problem.  Something else has probably changed or your are having hardware issues.
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <VII> well, I wasnt able to click anywhere outside that test box for the mouse, which is a problem right?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> rambo3: honestly, i don't know.. i'm assuming an older version(about 5mo ago)
[02:25] <jussi01> !offtopic
[02:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: lol
[02:25] <rambo3> IndyGunFreak, no to go into offtopic but there is a big difference
[02:25] <Scalar> anyone know where i would look for logfiles to troubleshoot my boot? Booting off of a livecd atm...
[02:25] <Huffalump> Why do the Enlightenment downloads seem to say Developer Release?  Is that just the only thing available at this time?  No official releases?
[02:25] <jamison_> Does E17 have effects Like beryl cause im use to my 3d
[02:25] <h1st0> VII: It won't show an output outside of the box.  But you should still be able to click and close it.
[02:25] <Michaeja> hi all, I am trying to install the latest nvidia drivers, and when I try to install "sudo apt-get install build-essential pkg-config xserver-xorg-dev", it asks me to put in the edgy cd and when I do that, it just hangs.  How do I install these packages?
[02:25] <ikonia> Huffalump: because its not released
[02:25] <VII> hlst0, Ive tried uninstalling wine, but I get an error message about the mouse when I try
[02:25] <shockwave1> jussi01: i found the file, but it is in root so is there a command i can use in like sudo?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> rambo3: i'm sure there is, i may try it one of these days
[02:25] <jamison_> I find my self in windows trying to rotate the cube lol
[02:25] <PirateHead> Huffalump: E17 is developer-only, there is no stable release. E16 is older and crappier but "stable".
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> but i'm happy with Gnome
[02:26] <h1st0> VII: Maybe look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log see if theere are any errors relating to mouse.
[02:26] <h1st0> VII: Wine has nothing to do with your mouse.... But what error did you get?
[02:26] <Huffalump> ikonia, thanks.  PirateHead, I'm not sure I want to be a test animal... did that enough under Windows.  But I'll keep this E17 bookmarked.
[02:26] <jamison_> anyone know of a good configurable dock tool
[02:26] <VII> hlst0, I get output (like mouse pos) outside the box, but nothing happens when I click
[02:26] <VII> wait, let me get it again
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: but being a test animal is fun
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:26] <h1st0> jamison_: There are many try the forums
[02:26] <Huffalump> heh
[02:26] <jussi01> shockwave1, you can use sudo nautilus to get a root nautilus window
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> Thats why i won't *upgrade* to Feisty.
[02:27] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: Fiesty rocks
[02:27] <kbrooks> I'd like to setup a FTP server. Is there a simple and easy way to do so?
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i laugh when people come here with Feisty probs, let people who know what their doing, figure the bugs out.
[02:27] <PirateHead> What's different about Feisty?
[02:27] <ikonia> kbrooks: install one
[02:27] <mackinac> !gksudo
[02:27] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[02:27] <DonPhinney> does ubuntu run off a live cd?
[02:27] <kaktuskatta> This is what I found on the web about formatting to FAT32: Bear in mind that Windows cannot format a FAT32 partition that is any larger than 32GB. This is the case because FAT32 is terribly inefficient on volumes that are larger than 32GB: fragmentation becomes a serious problem.
[02:27] <h1st0> DonPhinney: yes
[02:27] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, I'll upgrade after Fiesty has been out a couple months and I can read the screaming on the forums.
[02:27] <VII> I have the test box open now, I havnt clikec in it yet, so Im able to click outside it now
[02:27] <genie> thanks for help, I found it
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: i have no doubt, but i'm not a tester, so i let those who know how, do the testing and get the bugs out, when they tell me its ready, i'll use it.
[02:27] <h1st0> DonPhinney: The install disc is also live cd.
[02:27] <ikonia> kaktuskatta: we know this
[02:27] <kbrooks> ikonia, I want it out of the box, with easily adding users etc
[02:28] <ikonia> kbrooks: - install one
[02:28] <Fiish> kbrooks, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#FTP_Server
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: exactly,
[02:28] <Michaeja> I am trying to install the latest nvidia drivers, and when I try to install "sudo apt-get install build-essential pkg-config xserver-xorg-dev", it asks me to put in the edgy cd and when I do that, it just hangs. How do I install these packages?
[02:28] <h1st0> VII: So whatever window you click in you are only able to use the mouse in that window?
[02:28] <Huffalump> kaktuskatta - Yet, people do it all the time.  I have very large drives on FAT32 and no one gets hurt.
[02:28] <kaktuskatta> Somebody told med that the upper limit for FAT32 is 8TB....
[02:28] <h1st0> VII: Like its stealing control.
[02:28] <h1st0> ?
[02:28] <VII> now Ive clicked the texst box, and now Im getting the mouse pos even when Im outside the box
[02:28] <ikonia> Michaeja: change your sources.list to point at the internet repo's or remove the cd repo from that file
[02:28] <PirateHead> kbrooks: if you want to run a server, you'll have to do some configuring,.
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lmao.. "install one"
[02:28] <h1st0> VII: xev only tests the mouse inside of that little window
[02:28] <VII> yes hlst0
[02:28] <Huffalump> kaktuskatta - Is your external drive larger that 8TB? ;)
[02:28] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: what did he want me to say - there are 5 in the repo's
[02:28] <Michaeja> ikonia: ok, Ill give it a try, one sec
[02:28] <VII> hlst0: not after I click it, then it seems to own the whole screen
[02:28] <h1st0> VII: It doesn't monitor it outside of the window.
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: probably step by step...lmao
[02:29] <selinuxium_> HEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!!!!   I have just spent 3 hours doing my timesheets for work, I have walkwed away and the screen saver looks like it has tried to start but failed, I don't know why. I can't get to the desktop to save my document. Any ideas?
[02:29] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: wrong place for that..... ;)
[02:29] <kaktuskatta> No it is not, but I am worried about loosing data if I format to a wrong FS...
[02:29] <h1st0> VII: I have no idea what is going on.
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[02:29] <ikonia> selinuxium you're on ignore now
[02:29] <h1st0> selinuxium_: You worked on something for three hours and never saved it?
[02:29] <DonPhinney> how is it on recocnising HW from the live cd, and can t save config to a pendrive
[02:29] <kbrooks> ikonia, what did selinuxium_ do wrong
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: thats kinda what i was thinking.
[02:29] <Huffalump> kbrooks - try one.  if you don't like it, try another.  It will only take you a few minutes to test each one, right?  They're all prety good these days.
[02:29] <drakq> hi
[02:30] <mirak> I want to reinstall my ubuntu edgy which is old from hoary probably, can I go for a feisty CD or should I take edgy and upgrade ?
[02:30] <h1st0> DonPhinney: I haven't used it that way so I have noidea
[02:30] <kaktuskatta> Huffalump:No it is not, but I am worried about loosing data if I format to a wrong FS...
[02:30] <frankzhao> I downloaded realplayer for linux, and installed, why it is not able to run?
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: if he had to explain it, you probbly wouldn't understand.. :)
[02:30] <Huffalump> mirak - Fiesty is in beta, still.
[02:30] <h1st0> mirak: Fiesty is not out yet.
[02:30] <ikonia> kbrooks nothing, I just can't stand people who come in with "!!!!!HELLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!! flood - its a busy channel sho taking up 1.5 lines of text with !!!!!!!!!!!HEEEEELPP makes it hard to read and rubbish waste of screen space
[02:30] <PirateHead> frankzhao: because realplayer sucks. :-(
[02:30] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, why not?
[02:30] <eXistenZ> Is it recommended to install generic kernel?
[02:30] <soundray> mirak: edgy is stable, but go for feisty if you are willing to help fix the remaining bugs
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: just hang out here for a while, and you'll see what i mean..
[02:31] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: ha ha ha ha ha
[02:31] <ikonia> eXistenZ: thats all there is now
[02:31] <h1st0> Anyh00t I think i'm off to sleep
[02:31] <ikonia> good night
[02:31] <PirateHead> !stopbeingadick | ikonia
[02:31] <h1st0> l8tr p3opl3s
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stopbeingadick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <VII> hlst0, this was weird, I solved it, guess how, I pressed my third mouse button, and since then it has worked
[02:31] <PirateHead> Darn, no factoid for it.
[02:31] <shockwave1> jussi01: thanks that worked
[02:31] <mirak> soundray h1st0 Huffalump what I want to know is if I will have a less broken system by installing an actual feisty against dist-upgrading a edgy.
[02:31] <selinuxium_> h1st0: stupidly yep! Any ideas on how to save before I reboot the laptop?
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i'm just glad you can take good natured ribbing..lol
[02:31] <eXistenZ> ikonia: Are you on KDE?
[02:31] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: ooog yes
[02:32] <ikonia> eXistenZ: no, sorry
[02:32] <Huffalump> kaktuskatta - First of all, you don't really "convert" from NTFS to FAT32.  You actually have to move files off, clear some room, convert that room to FAT32, move files from NTFS to the FAT32, then clear out the remaining NTFS space and convert it.  If you want, rejoin the partitions.  I'll be honest and say I never found it brain dead easy... but I have done it and everything worked out...
[02:32] <Huffalump> ...fine with a little elbow grease.  The problem is not linux, the problem is NTFS.
[02:32] <DonPhinney> Work on a lot of computers, and need to run from live cd and pendrive (currently use puppy, and DSL) how does ubuntu compare
[02:32] <frankzhao> !realplayer > frankzhao
[02:32] <Huffalump> mirak - You won't know until you try, but since Edgy has been released, it tends to be the safer bet.  Right?
[02:32] <soundray> mirak: I can't say I fully understand what the problem is.
[02:33] <Demeskus> What was that program you can use to detect your SATA HDD's?
[02:33] <frankzhao> are we able to listen to online radio from ubuntu?
[02:33] <ikonia> Demeskus: none really
[02:33] <Demeskus> Hmm
[02:33] <ikonia> Demeskus: the os can either see them or not
[02:33] <Demeskus> Well apparently it doesn't then :p
[02:33] <PirateHead> mirak: dist-upgrade can cause problems. I would wait until Feisty is officially released until you try a dist-upgrade, unless you want to help find bugs in the current dist-upgrade process. =D
[02:33] <sanityx> Is there a metapackage I can install on ubuntu server to install the LAMP setup. I did a clean ubuntu install, and I don't want to reinstall.
[02:33] <soundray> frankzhao: yes. Some stations use proprietary encoding, in which case you may have to install extra codecs
[02:34] <Demeskus> How can I make it see them? Or is that impossible even.
[02:34] <shockwave1> DonPhinney: I have used puppy a little and i still prefer ubuntu. puppy is definetly quick, but i find some things a a little easier to do in ubuntu
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: even then i don't like dist-upgrade, i just backup and do a clean install.
[02:34] <soundray> !restricted > frankzhao, see ubotu's private message for a link to extra information.
[02:34] <ikonia> PirateHead: I read that the new upgrade method is going to be released with fesity in that your edgy desktop will inform you that festy is availble and offer to upgrade for you
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> now that would be interesting.
[02:34] <frankzhao> thanks > soundray
[02:34] <ikonia> yes
[02:34] <PirateHead> IndyGunFreak: exactly the same here.
[02:34] <Huffalump> And, it would be about time.
[02:34] <selinuxium_> kbrooks: I would like to know myself.
[02:34] <Huffalump> (As in, I impatiently await great solutions like that.)
[02:35] <PirateHead> Ikonia: I'll try it, but I'm backing everything up first. Based on experience, I don't trust dist-upgrade.
[02:35] <ikonia> it was a very positive move and its supposed to be able to differentiate between LTS and none LTS releases, eg: won't offer fesity to any 6.06 users - bit it will over 8.X to LTS (assuming that was the LTS release
[02:35] <ikonia> PirateHead: its not there yet - it will happen when fesity is released
[02:35] <Michaeja> hmmm, I am trying to disable the "nv" driver, but when I type "sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common", it opens up a new, clean file.  How do I access the intended file?
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> PirateHead: i tried to upgrade from Win95 to 98.. and that wasn't very smooth, from then on, I vowed to always clean install OS's, and i have since then
[02:35] <ikonia> PirateHead: according to what I've ready
[02:35] <ikonia> read
[02:35] <mirak> PirateHead: if I install a edgy now I will not dist-upgrade it until feisty is out. However since I often had problems dooing dist-upgrades I am wondering if I should not install a beta feisty directly.
[02:36] <Huffalump> Okay, so!  When I boot up, I hear the drum beat.  If I login as User A, I get no sound whatsoever (although it was working 3 days ago and have since tried/checked many things).  If I login as User B, then the sound is just fine.  I need help to restore sound to User A, please.
[02:36] <soundray> Demeskus: if you have trouble with edgy and SATA, and you can handle pre-release software, try feisty
[02:36] <graulich> my desktop icons have disappeared and my mp3 player won't automount. xubuntu edgy. what the hell?
[02:36] <selinuxium_> kbrooks: I'm interested on what i have done to ikonia?
[02:36] <soundray> !feisty > Demeskus, please read ubotu's message.
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: gotta be something in your sound settings under User A.
[02:36] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, I agree, but haven't been able to be guided to where it is yet...
[02:36] <soundray> !language | graulich
[02:36] <ubotu> graulich: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <PirateHead> mirak: feisty is *rough* right now. Install feisty at your own risk, really -- and if you do, the clean install is probably the best.
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: opena terminal and type "alsamixer"
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> check your volumes, make sure nothing is muted, etc.
[02:37] <graulich> let me rephrase
[02:37] <graulich> my desktop icons have disappeared and my mp3 player won't automount. xubuntu edgy. what do I do?
[02:37] <ikonia> graulich: have you updated xfce by any chance ?
[02:37] <PirateHead> graulich: what does automount mean?
[02:37] <PirateHead> graulich: I mean in the context of an MP3 player?
[02:38] <graulich> PirateHead: that when I plug it in it mounts
[02:38] <soundray> graulich: restart your file manager (either thunar or nautilus)
[02:38] <Michaeja> hmmm, I am trying to disable the "nv" driver, but when I type "sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common", it opens up a new, clean file.  How do I access the intended file?
[02:38] <larson9999> i always to an upgrade first.  counting windows, mandriva, ubuntu, and rh, the upgrade from dapper to edgy is the first one that worked and didn't result in me doing a clean install a week or so after the upgrade :)
[02:38] <graulich> ikonia: not to the best of my knowledge
[02:38] <graulich> soundray: how?
[02:38] <PirateHead> graulich: you mean your physical player. I thought you meant an app. =D
[02:38] <ikonia> Michaeja: why would you do that
[02:38] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, I have made sure nothing is muted and there is no sound
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: something isn't right then, because if its right under 1 user, in theory, it should be right under the other.
[02:38] <soundray> graulich: Alt-F2 killall thunar
[02:38] <Michaeja> ikonia: to disable the "nv" driver to avoid conflict with the nvidia driver
[02:39] <ikonia> michaelpo: the nv driver is just an Xorg module - nothing to do with the kernel
[02:39] <ikonia> oos
[02:39] <larson9999> Michaeja: disable as in modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf, uninstalling it, or blacklisting it?
[02:39] <ikonia> Michaeja: the nv driver is an xorg module - not a kernel
[02:39] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, that's what I would have thought.  And, I cannot think/remember anything I might have done (no installed software, etc)
[02:39] <soundray> Michaeja: you are taking the wrong approach. There is no kernel module to go with the nv driver.
[02:39] <mirak> PirateHead: I don't necessarily want to go to feisty. My main concern is installing a clean system, because my current ubuntu install dates from hoary -> breezy -> dapper -> edgy if I am not missing one.
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: try this... try adding another user, just as a dummy account, and log into it, and see if it has sound.
[02:39] <Michaeja> ahh, ok, Im just following a guide
[02:40] <ikonia> Michaeja: try use guides only from ubuntu sites
[02:40] <StoneNote> Huffalump, "sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp | sudo chmod 666 /dev/audio | sudo chmod 666 /dev/mixer" and then restart your audio program
[02:40] <soundray> Michaeja: make sure you follow the *right* guide:
[02:40] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, that is what I tried last night ....and hence User B has sound.
[02:40] <soundray> !nvidia > Michaeja
[02:40] <graulich> soundray: that doesn't quite seem to work
[02:40] <selinuxium_> StoneNote chmod of the beast!
[02:40] <PirateHead> mirak: I see the problem now. I would install a clean Edgy, unless you need to keep your current data.
[02:40] <Michaeja> ikonia: it was on on the forums
[02:40] <ikonia> ok
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ok... well, try what StoneNote says then, that doesnt' make sense though
[02:40] <soundray> graulich: in that case, try Alt-F2 killall nautilus
[02:40] <hypn0> Michaeja: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/
[02:40] <PirateHead> mirak: if you do need to keep your current data, make sure to back it up
[02:40] <ikonia> hypn0: why are you saying that
[02:41] <ikonia> Michaeja: ignore that link
[02:41] <soundray> graulich: or is the Run Application thing not showing up?
[02:41] <hypn0> ikonia: saying what, that's how to install nvidia driver?
[02:41] <mirak> PirateHead: datas are on /home
[02:41] <Michaeja> ikonia: yeah, I have tryed the apt approach and it doesnt work
[02:41] <Huffalump> thanks StoneNote and IndyGunFreak, back shortly....
[02:41] <graulich> soundray: it is, the command just doesn't do anything. tried both with thunar and nautilus, and it's thunar here anyhow.
[02:41] <ikonia> hypn0: there is an official ubuntu link - not a 3rd party link
[02:41] <soundray> Michaeja: you need to say what doesn't work
[02:41] <hypn0> ikonia: what does it matter?
[02:42] <soundray> graulich: okay, next try Alt-F2 thunar
[02:42] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, in my experience if I've muted my sound in some obscure programs I lose sound in all of them unless I remember to unmute before I exit them.  Then when I check those /dev they are crw-rw---- instead of crw-rw-rw
[02:42] <ikonia> hypn0: it matters as a lot of 3rd party are "works for me" rather than the official process
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: makes sense really...
[02:42] <ikonia> if we are going to support - we need to know he's tried the tried and tested method
[02:42] <graulich> soundray: the player's mounted, the desktop is sitll blank.
[02:42] <Michaeja> soundray: after apt-ing the nvidia-glx and running the config program and then rebooting, nothing changed, and I still got a "no screens error"
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: its obvioussly something he done as the user of the account that won't work
[02:42] <soundray> hypn0: a lot of time here is wasted because people follow unofficial guides.
[02:42] <mirak> probably one thing is missing in ubuntu, it's to be able to do a clean install and still keep as much settings from old system
[02:42] <sacater> Fiish: ive got my ftp server running okay :D, with annonymous login disabled, what i want to know now... is can i have ssh running as well, or can I only have one or the other
[02:42] <graulich> soundray: and I'd mention I've rebooted at least once or twice since the desktop disappeared.
[02:43] <ikonia> sacater: totally different, have both
[02:43] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, oh ok. I didn't look at the thread.  I just saw a sound issue and that's what I usually screw up to lose my sound
[02:43] <StoneNote> my bad
[02:43] <kbrooks> sacater, you can have both. you can use sftp instead of ftp
[02:43] <soundray> Michaeja: which kernel version do you have? Do you have the corresponding linux-restricted-modules?
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: yeah, he had 1 user that had sound perfectly, and another user that had no sound at all.
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> thats why i suspect there was a volume prob, or something was muted, etc.
[02:43] <sacater> kbrooks:
[02:43] <soundray> graulich: can you open a terminal?
[02:43] <larson9999> speaking of blacklisting, is there a way to blacklist programs so apt-get won't try to install them?  i'm referring to OOs specifically.  i install that manually but if i do a dist-upgrade aftwards it wants to install the older version from the repos.
[02:43] <graulich> sure, soundray
[02:44] <Fiish> sacater, u can have both
[02:44] <ikonia> larson9999: change the policy
[02:44] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, hmmm. I don't have a clue on that.
[02:44] <Michaeja> soudray, unsure, after installing a clean version of edgy, I ran apt-get upgrade, soo everything should be up to date
[02:44] <ikonia> apt-cache policy
[02:44] <ikonia> something like that
[02:44] <sacater> kbrooks: erm, im using vsftpd atm,
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: me either, he's muted something, or done somethign under the user that doesn';t work
[02:44] <ikonia> sacater: that doesn't matter, you can have both ssh and ftp applications running
[02:44] <soundray> graulich: what happens when you start thunar in there? Please use the pastebin if the messages don't make sense.
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: thats why i was so baffeled..lol
[02:44] <sacater> Fiish: i would need a fixed IP to make it available to the world though?
[02:44] <DonPhinney> What is the best
[02:45] <ikonia> sacater: yes
[02:45] <graulich> no message, soundray, it just opens thunar.
[02:45] <Fiish> sacater, yes or u can use services like DynDNS
[02:45] <ikonia> sacater: or a dynamic dns service - but that is out of scope for ubuntu support
[02:45] <DonPhinney> what is the best book to get on all the distributions of linux
[02:45] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, last time I wound up with a system like that was back in my new days and I misused chown -R
[02:45] <ikonia> DonPhinney: there isn't one
[02:45] <sacater> ikonia: Fiish okay thanks
[02:45] <soundray> Michaeja: make sure you have 2.6.17-11-generic (check with uname -r)
[02:45] <ikonia> DonPhinney: distro's are specific
[02:45] <graulich> oh, problem solved soundray, looks like a wrong switch was on in the settings. thanks anyhow!
[02:45] <DonPhinney> gota be some type of comparison
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: onlys ound prob i ever had, was whena ll my sound worked, except for my TV card, but googling pointed me towards the clue..
[02:46] <ikonia> DonPhinney: no
[02:46] <DonPhinney> RE
[02:46] <selinuxium_> hi all, i have a fairly serious problem. I have been working in OO doing my timesheets for work. It has taken 3 hours. and now my screen saver kicked in but has hung. I cannot get to the screen to save my document. any ideas?
[02:46] <ikonia> DonPhinney: they are all packaged and configured differently
[02:46] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, agreed. google is one of my best "obscure problem reference" guides
[02:46] <StoneNote> and here of course
[02:46] <Fiish> sacater, ubuntu offers DynDNS through ddclient package, register for DynDNS at their site first
[02:46] <ikonia> selinuxium_: does the mouse or anything respond, can you access it via say ssh
[02:46] <DonPhinney> should be some way to compare
[02:46] <Michaeja> soudray: I have 2.6.17-10-generic
[02:46] <ikonia> DonPhinney: I'll say it again - they are all packaged and configured differently
[02:46] <rambo3> ddclient is a deamon
[02:47] <ikonia> DonPhinney: thats why there are books on each
[02:47] <z9999> Does anyone know how to determine what codecs are installed in Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:47] <rambo3> easy text based config
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: and another reason i like Ubuntu, you can turn up almost any answer with w/ Google.  You can usually bet someone on UbuntuForums or LQ.org has had the problem you're having, and its been solved.. then you can com ehere if its still a mystery
[02:47] <selinuxium_> ikonia: mouse movesbut black screen, I can ssh
[02:47] <soundray> selinuxium_: log in on a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and try to kill the screensaver
[02:47] <ikonia> selinuxium_: ssh in and kill the screen saver
[02:47] <Huffalump> Still no sound for this user.
[02:47] <Lynoure> DonPhinney: If you do not like what you use now, try something else. Ask around for ideas about what to switch to. If you are happy, why change?
[02:47] <DonPhinney> so the only way to decide on a distr of linux is try every one available, and read every book?
[02:47] <selinuxium_> soundray: ikonia: already tried that killed screensaver but still have black screen
[02:47] <soundray> selinuxium_: and don't worry too much about your timesheets -- OOo will offer to restore it
[02:47] <StoneNote> IndyGunFreak, yup.  that's the same thing that brought me from SUSE to Ubuntu
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: you have to have something muted, or something on that user
[02:48] <ikonia> DonPhinney: read the docs on the one you want to try
[02:48] <Lynoure> DonPhinney: no, asking and reading helps too.
[02:48] <selinuxium_> soundray, that is what i am hoping! :)
[02:48] <DonPhinney> how do you know even wher eto start
[02:48] <soundray> selinuxium_: kill OOo then, but gently (15, 1, 2, only then use 9)
[02:48] <Michaeja> soundrayK how do I update to 2.6.17-11-generic?
[02:48] <ikonia> DonPhinney: pick a distro from say distrowatch.com and read up on it
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> StoneNote: Suse isn't to bad, but i read war and peace while programs loaded... soit made me go back to Windows..lol
[02:48] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, I have made sure that all the items are at maximum.
[02:48] <Lynoure> DonPhinney: But just like whith shoes, you cannot really know if it fits without evaluating them on yourself
[02:48] <DonPhinney> if there is not so much as a place to compare features
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ok.. and none of htem have the red X through the horn at the bottom of the slider?
[02:48] <soundray> Michaeja: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[02:49] <ikonia> DonPhinney: try distrowatch.com for info on popular distro s
[02:49] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, not even Mic or Line In
[02:49] <Michaeja> sourdray:ok, Ill try that
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> well, Line in i would unmute just to be safe, but Mic is no bigdeal
[02:49] <soundray> selinuxium_: after that you can kill X or just reboot
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> but personally, i have to keep line-n unmuted, due to my TV card
[02:49] <DonPhinney> been through 6 different distributions in 10 days
[02:49] <ikonia> selinuxium kill gnome desktop and hope it re-spawns
[02:50] <ikonia> DonPhinney: this is nothing to do with ubuntu, so best not to discuss it in an ubuntu support channel
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> DonPhinney: damn.. 6 in 10 days, you must have done some pretty thorough examinations of them..
[02:50] <DonPhinney> and I haven't even scrached the serface
[02:50] <Huffalump> It sounds like you haven't
[02:50] <Huffalump> ;)
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i was hopign my sarcasm came through..lol
[02:50] <soundray> DonPhinney: trying distributions is not the way to go beyond the surface. Stick with ubuntu and learn it
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: and we have a winner..lol
[02:51] <Michaeja> soundray: do you know what version driver is in the repos?
[02:51] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: who, me?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: you win best advice of the day..lol
[02:51] <ikonia> $10 says he won't take it
[02:51] <soundray> cheers
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: you're such a pessimist..lol
[02:52] <Huffalump> Who's the big bad audio guru around here that can help the unhelpable?!
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: do you have an audio icon in the bottom right, the little horn?
[02:52] <ikonia> Huffalump: give me a quick summary
[02:52] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, bottom right?  No.
[02:52] <soundray> Michaeja: nvidia is 8776 on my machine (amd64 though)
[02:52] <genii> Driver issue then
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: wel, i always forget i set up my taskbar that way, but you do have the horn, right?
[02:52] <Huffalump> ikonia - No sound for this user, "suddenly" ....but sound works fine when I create a test user.
[02:52] <DonPhinney> will ubuntu run fast on old computers, reconize a wide variety of hardware, and do this off a live cd and save it's config to a pen drive?
[02:52] <LordKeiden> are there open source drivers the broadcom 4300 series wifi cards that work?
[02:53] <ikonia> Huffalump: is your user in the audio group
[02:53] <Michaeja> soundray: oh, I need 9774 (or whatever) or higher to run my 8800
[02:53] <ikonia> is the device owned by the audio group
[02:53] <Huffalump> ikonia - Just today, we re-added it to be sure
[02:53] <soundray> DonPhinney: ubuntu is primarily designed to run off a hard disk drive
[02:53] <selinuxium_> ikonia: how would i do that
[02:53] <Huffalump> ikonia - I'm not sure how to verify device ownership
[02:53] <ikonia> ls -la
[02:53] <kbrooks> DonPhinney, 1. fast? maybe.
[02:53] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak, I have the speaker icon... :)
[02:53] <ikonia> check the owner and group
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ok.
[02:53] <ikonia> DonPhinney: try it
[02:53] <godsyn> i'm currently using htop as a cli process/system monitor. Is there somthing simular for monitering bandwidth/network? (cli)
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ikonia is probably on the righ ttrack.
[02:54] <genii> DonPhinney: For an extremely small distro for older boxes, Damn Small Linux is a better choice
[02:54] <soundray> Michaeja: hold on a sec
[02:54] <Huffalump> ikonia, the Device Manager does not specify group or owner
[02:54] <DonPhinney> Running that right  now, and puppy
[02:54] <ikonia> device manager ?
[02:54] <selinuxium_> ikonia: how do I restart gnome-desktop please?
[02:54] <boten_> Please help me!!! I am using Xgl and Beryl on Ubuntu Dapper. When i want to run programs such  as dosbox, the windows of this program are transparent! How can I cope with this problem?
[02:54] <ikonia> just ls -la the device
[02:54] <Huffalump> ikonia - I am a Windows refuge.
[02:54] <Huffalump> ok
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> refugee..lol
[02:55] <ikonia> boten_: configure the theme to not be transparant
[02:55] <godsyn> anyone?
[02:55] <boten_> P.S. How can I do it?
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: that command popped up a ton of crap, what exactly is it showing?
[02:55] <boten_> My videocard is Radeon 9600
[02:55] <LordKeiden> DonPhinney, I have used Puppy Linux for a thunb drive based install and it works well. It is geared towards older machines
[02:55] <ikonia> selinuxium_: you can't as you can't access it - try to kill some gnome proceeses like gdm and hope it re-spawns
[02:55] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: sorry - which one
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> ls -la
[02:55] <genii> DonPhinney: Well, the i386 based kernel from the alternate install cd will install on systems with as little as 64 Mb of ram, but you still need about 2.5Gb hd space
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> seems like almost every file i have that needs sound
[02:56] <Huffalump> ikonia - /dev/audio is owned by root and in the group audio
[02:56] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: don't try to get a rise out of me ;)
[02:56] <ikonia> Huffalump: ok - so whats your user name
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol, never
[02:56] <DonPhinney> looking for something a bit more robust than DSL or PUPPY (using both now) expecialy in hardware recocnition
[02:56] <Huffalump> ikonia - bozotheclown
[02:56] <ikonia> Huffalump: ok so "id bozotheclown"
[02:56] <rambo3> DonPhinney, Knoppix
[02:56] <DonPhinney> Knoppix freezes on many of the computers i have tryied it on
[02:56] <Huffalump> ikonia - many listing, including audio
[02:57] <ikonia> DonPhinney: either try try it
[02:57] <ikonia> or don't
[02:57] <DonPhinney> this leads me here
[02:57] <giuliano> hi
[02:57] <ikonia> Huffalump: ok - cool so thats the basic stuff done
[02:57] <soundray> Michaeja: the current ubuntu pre-release comes with 9631 -- you might fare better with that. It's still a bit buggy, though.
[02:57] <btaylor> DonPhinney: gnome is slow on older hardware
[02:57] <godsyn> i'm currently using htop as a cli process/system monitor. Is there somthing simular for monitering bandwidth/network? (cli)
[02:57] <btaylor> DonPhinney: try Xubuntu
[02:57] <genii> DonPhinney: Chances are if Knoppix freezes a system so too will any version of Ubuntu
[02:57] <ikonia> Huffalump: so what app are you trying to use to play sound
[02:57] <Zaggynl^Laptop> Could anyone help me with getting gnome-power-manager to work? hibernate/suspend doesn't work at all
[02:57] <rambo3> DonPhinney, Elbuntu
[02:57] <Huffalump> ikonia - any at all, but at this moment... VLC
[02:58] <ikonia> Huffalump: ok - just for the purpose of this - could you use xmms and stick with just xmms so we have a known base app (I just know how xmms access the sound devices better)
[02:58] <Huffalump> ikonia - the sound test, for example, do not work.  silence
[02:58] <Michaeja> soudray: I have tried feisty and it wont even boot
[02:58] <Huffalump> ikonia ok
[02:58] <soundray> Zaggynl^Laptop: best place to start is tuxmobil.org. Find installation reports for your model and see whether anyone has got suspend to work before you.
[02:58] <impeto> hi to all
[02:59] <wizo> hey, how do i check if a package is already in the system
[02:59] <Zaggynl^Laptop> soundray, okay thanks
[02:59] <ikonia> wizo: look in synaptic
[02:59] <wizo> erm.. what if i only have commandline?
[02:59] <ikonia> dpkg -l
[02:59] <soundray> Michaeja: which Herd did you try?
[02:59] <wizo> ah ok
[02:59] <Michaeja> soundray: herd 1 and then 5
[02:59] <Wanderer> Anyone know if winamp on windows can see and play music off an mt-daap server from a linux machine running avahi?
[03:00] <DonPhinney> been away from unix for about 20 years these other buntus is there a listing somewhere?
[03:00] <Huffalump> ikonia (or anyone) - I just want to verify if Rhythmbox = xmms ?
[03:00] <ikonia> Huffalump: don't know to be honest
[03:00] <ikonia> DonPhinney: ubuntu.com
[03:00] <rambo3> !elbuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about elbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: no i don't *think* so.
[03:00] <soundray> Michaeja: Herd 5 didn't even boot? Have you reported this?
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:00] <Huffalump> ikonia - I tried xmms in the terminal, but no app launched
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> its more like a small version of WMP
[03:00] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - ok
[03:01] <kbrooks> What is the meaning of this  error? "IPv6 getaddrinfo 'localhost' error: Name or service not known"
[03:01] <ikonia> Huffalump:  ok - lets just try to get the sound test running
[03:01] <ForgeAus> back
[03:01] <Michaeja> soundray: not yet, I havent had much luck in the past reporting bugs
[03:01] <ikonia> kbrooks: means your not runing ipv6
[03:01] <kbrooks> ikonia, i dont want to!
[03:01] <wizo> ok so i installed xinit and fluxbox and did the echo "exec startfluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc, but why do i have to do sudo startx to start fluxbox instead of just startx ?
[03:01] <ikonia> kbrooks: then don't
[03:01] <soundray> Michaeja: anyway -- what happens when you use plain old nv?
[03:01] <ikonia> kbrooks: disable it
[03:02] <Michaeja> soudray: I get an xserver error "No screens found"
[03:02] <ikonia> back in 10
[03:02] <impeto> I've a quest if is possible. [Edgy+AIXGL+COMPIZ+GNOME]  ... programs (I think with GTK like NeroLinux) have a strange theme either controls and fonts... Someone has an idea for change this one?
[03:02] <kbrooks> ikonia, didn't i already? educate me
[03:02] <damoek> I have a question about samba shares
[03:02] <Huffalump> ikonia - just verified the tests still do not work
[03:03] <soundray> Michaeja: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and find out why. Lines starting with (EE) tend to be particularly informative.
[03:03] <skuark> hi, i need some help... i've an external hd and yesterday, i had a mistake and i rewrote partition table
[03:03] <Huffalump> ikonia IndyGunFreak - xmms installed!
[03:04] <soundray> skuark: oh dear
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: cool... its pretty easy to install
[03:04] <damoek> does anyone know why I can stream music and video from my ubuntu box to my windows box but not the other way around?
[03:04] <skuark> how can i recovery the fat?
[03:04] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - embarrassingly so
[03:04] <soundray> skuark: it's not the fat you want to recover, it's the partition table
[03:04] <soundray> skuark: do you remember roughly what the layout was like (just yes or no)
[03:04] <Huffalump> skuark - stop eating a low carb diet
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: just think, once you get the hang of everything, a bazillion programs can be installed like that "sudo apt-get install programname"
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: to remove them.. "sudo apt-get remove programname"
[03:05] <Michaeja> soundray: one EE line - (EE) No devices found
[03:05] <skuark> soundray i think the data is there, but the fat don't link with data (sorry for my bad english)
[03:05] <soundray> skuark: do you remember roughly what the layout was like?
[03:06] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - the ironic part about learning to do things the traditional way... is that when I help people around me switch to Ubuntu, they need me to understand how to do things by clicking buttons and such.  You know, those regular users who aren't friends with their computers and will not learn no matter how much we want them to.  And if I get all into line command, next thing I know......
[03:06] <Huffalump> ...I dont know where to tell them to click... and they go back to Windows.
[03:06] <soundray> Michaeja: that's bad news. I think you're going to have to try and fix your boot problems and run feisty. Boot options may help -- see ubotu's pm:
[03:06] <skuark> the disk had an unique partition
[03:06] <soundray> !bootoptions > Michaeja
[03:07] <soundray> skuark: and what have you overwritten it with?
[03:07] <Fiish> skuark, not an easy problem to solve, try testdisk
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: yeah, i understand, believe me
[03:07] <kbrooks> how do i enable anonymous users to login with no password?
[03:07] <soundray> skuark: my recommendation is gpart (not testdisk)
[03:07] <kbrooks> with proftpd
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: what type of audio files are you trying to play that won't work?
[03:08] <soundray> !info gpart > skuark, read ubotu's pm
[03:08] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - I'll try any audio you want me to.  Right now, I've been doing MPEG, AVI, MP3, OGG, VOB, a n y t h i n g
[03:08] <kbrooks> how do i enable anonymous users to login with no password with proftpd? ping.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ok.. no error messages i assume?
[03:08] <soundray> !repeat > kbrooks
[03:09] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - Nope, apparently the computer thinks everything is fine.
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[03:09] <fer> good morning guys
[03:09] <kbrooks> where might i ask this question, soundray ???
[03:09] <soundray> kbrooks: if nobody knows, find out from /usr/share/doc/proftpd/
[03:09] <fer> how can i scan for my wireless router?
[03:09] <skuark> soundray, i did it with a utility in terminal, i don't remember the name... i'm at other pc
[03:09] <fer> i need a network scanner :(
[03:09] <skuark> i've probbin with testdisk, but not with gpart
[03:09] <fer> anyone know?
[03:10] <kbrooks> soundray, i havent installed that yet, thanks
[03:10] <damoek> does anyone know why I can stream music and video from my ubuntu box to my windows box but not the other way around?
[03:10] <Fiish> skuark, testdisk will search through the disk to restore the boot tables of each partition so u can reconstruct your partition table, Gparted will reconstruct as long as the boot sectors of each partition are intact
[03:10] <b0ri5> I have a problem-my computer freezes after 4 min. of use
[03:10] <b0ri5> nothing responds, but the mouse moves.
[03:11] <b0ri5> I tried switching the RAM, but still have the smae problem.
[03:11] <linux_kid> How do I make my dial-up connection phone-out (like how do I activate it?)
[03:11] <mirak> does suspend to disk needs a particular swap size ? I don't find much docs about that
[03:11] <damoek> the only way I can view shared video is to copy it locally? why is that?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> b0ri5: is it just Linux, is it the live CD, or is it an installation?
[03:11] <soundray> linux_kid: Alt-F2 pon
[03:11] <skuark> soundray thanks, i'm going to probe with gpart, i'll come back in a few minutes
[03:11] <soundray> skuark: good luck
[03:11] <NexusGS> hello all
[03:11] <linux_kid> soundray, what's "pon"
[03:12] <kuma> hi, i want to uninstall an application using the command line, can you guys help me?
[03:12] <soundray> linux_kid: a command you enter in the Run Application window
[03:12] <genii> kbrooks an example /etc/proftpd can be found at http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/anonymous.conf
[03:12] <soundray> linux_kid: try 'man pon'
[03:12] <Fiish> kbrooks, edit ur  /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf and add anonymous user support for either read only or read/write
[03:12] <genii> kbrooks /etc/proftpd.conf    even
[03:13] <fer> anyone that can help me with wireless scanner??
[03:13] <NexusGS> is there anyone who can help me with Realtek 8201 NIC and RealTek ALC883 sound card?
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | fer
[03:13] <ubotu> fer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:13] <soundray> fer: try 'iwlist wlan0 scan' assuming that wlan0 is your wireless interface name
[03:13] <Woozle> ikonia IndyGunFreak - Huffalump here, switched users where the audio works fine.... Anything I can check while I am in here?
[03:13] <fer> i just need the name of the wireless scanner, the ones i have dont work...
[03:14] <kuma> hi, i want to uninstall an application using the command line, can you guys help me?
[03:14] <soundray> kuma: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename'
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: hmm, well right click the Horn, choose preferences.
[03:14] <larson9999> anyone tried that metisse?
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> whats it set to?
[03:14] <Fiish> kuma, sudo apt-get install <application package>
[03:14] <Woozle> IndyGunFreak - same device (nVidia alsa)
[03:14] <kuma> soundray, Fiish thanks
[03:14] <damoek> am i silent or something?
[03:14] <halfrabbit> anybody have experience making xdmcp connections fron win?
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: is it set to master underneat that?
[03:15] <kbrooks> whoo!
[03:15] <K3nto> !frostwire
[03:15] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:15] <damoek> does anyone see what I'm typing?
[03:15] <NexusGS> is there anyone who can help me with Realtek 8201 NIC and RealTek ALC883 sound card?sorry for disturbing..
[03:15] <kuma> Fiish i want to uninstall
[03:15] <soundray> damoek: no, nobody
[03:15] <damoek> haha yes!!!
[03:15] <Fiish> kuma, what soundray wrote
[03:15] <kbrooks> genii, i took a line from that file. thanks
[03:15] <Woozle> IndyGunFreak - I didn't understand that before... but, yes, it is now that you ask!
[03:15] <kuma> ok
[03:15] <Woozle> I will verify Huffalump
[03:15] <soundray> damoek: if you've connected with your share through nautilus, you have to use a gnome-vfs aware video player like totem.
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: ok
[03:15] <genii> kbrooks Yw
[03:16] <damoek> totem opens by default?
[03:16] <damoek> just sits there
[03:16] <garuhhh> hi! i'd like to know how to see what firewall is currently active on my ubuntu machine.. what do i do?
[03:16] <NexusGS> is there anyone who can help me with Realtek 8201 NIC Lan On-Board and RealTek ALC883 sound card?sorry for disturbing..
[03:16] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - yes, also Master here.  A quick check shows everything *appears* identical
[03:16] <allad> hi everyone. I'm running edgy and I have a little problem. My favorite music player is amarok(under Gnome). But I can't get it to recognize my MP3 player(MTP device). Any suggestion?
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: what other option is there where it says, "Select Device"..
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> or is ther eonly one option
[03:17] <silensius> how can i upgrade just one packages ?
[03:17] <genii> NexusGS: Which ubuntu version are you trying to get them working with?
[03:17] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - #2 is Audigy  #3 is Realtek
[03:17] <ericrost> how do I Private Message someone off of the Ubuntu Wiki pages? one of the pages lists that as the contact info for the person who wrote the page
[03:17] <howke1> garuhhh: garuhhh: iptables -L
[03:17] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - incidentally, I have tried those for fun.... no change.
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: ok.
[03:17] <halfrabbit> xdmcp anyone?
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> somethin is wierd.
[03:18] <Huffalump> silensius - What package?
[03:18] <NexusGS> genii: 6.10
[03:18] <garuhhh> howke1: thanks.,, i'll try that right away.
[03:18] <Fiish> silensius, in update manger untick the ones u dont want to upgrade
[03:18] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - very weird.  The first time I had this problem, I rebooted and the audio came back.  The second time... it's never "come back" no matter what I've tried so far.
[03:18] <silensius> rhytmbox
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i hae no idea, doesn't make sense.
[03:18] <allad> For select device I got 4 options : Ipod, Generic Audio Player, IRiver, Creative... but no MTP device
[03:18] <mirak> does suspend to disk needs a particular swap size ? I don't find much docs about that
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> I guess you could remove that user, and just recreate it...
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> its gotta be a setting or something that you've changed and don't remember
[03:19] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - "You are coming to a sad realizatin.... cancel or allow?"
[03:19] <genii> NexusGS: I am seeing on some forums that the NIC at least needs kernel version 2.6.18 or later with sis900 module as driver. What kernel does command  uname -r    report for you?
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: lol
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> i love that commercial
[03:19] <NexusGS> genii:i use default installation's kernel...
[03:20] <Fiish> silensius, alternatively check the one u want to upgrade in synaptic under upgradeable in status tab
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i'm just saying, it might be the way to do this w/o creating a huge headache, if ikonia can't figure it out.
[03:20] <silensius> thanks
[03:20] <genii> NexusGS: Then likely it is 2.6.10
[03:20] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - I've tried to remember.  But I generally login to Ubuntu after working hours... for the actions of surfing the web, playing music, or watching a movie.  I haven't installed anything lately.  There may have been an update of some kind around that time, but I don't kno whow to check a log to see if/what it was.
[03:20] <wizo> why od i have to do sudo startx instead of just normal startx to start my fluxbox?
[03:20] <allad> I am using edgy. But is it possible to upgrade amarok to the feisty version? only amarok
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: i don't know, definitely confusing though
[03:21] <Huffalump> Can anyone tell me how to find a log of recently updated items, which were performed through Update Manager?
[03:21] <NexusGS> genii:i quess so...i will download it to another partition and compile..or is there any other way to do it so that i can load this kernel at installation?
[03:21] <garuhhh> howke1: it worked... now i see Chain INPUT, chain FORWARD, and chain OUTPUT lines... i remember putting this in "Webmin", how do i turn them off?
[03:21] <selinuxium_> ikonia: thanks for your help. it didn't work in the end, and the restore did not work either...
[03:22] <K3nto> !java
[03:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:22] <Michaeja> how do you access /etc/default/linux-restricted-drivers?  I only get a blank file when i TRY AND OPEN IT
[03:22] <Michaeja> oops caps
[03:22] <genii> NexusGS: You should be able to install it from the update manager (eg: synaptic or adept)
[03:23] <NexusGS> genni: without a net connection,i cannot :/
[03:23] <garuhhh> how do i turn off a firewall?
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> garuhhh: uninstall it
[03:23] <predaeus> Huffalump: there is a history in Synaptic, but I do not know if it matches the one for the Update Manager.
[03:23] <rambo3> !Iptables > garuhhh
[03:24] <skuark> how many time can gpart spent in a scan of a 320Gb disk?
[03:24] <garuhhh> thanks IndyGunFreak, but i don't remember installing it. it just came with Webmin..
[03:24] <genii> NexusGS: Ah, OK. So then, on another box to download the .deb file for it, then transport the file to the box and do a dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:24] <Huffalump> thank you predaeus, checking now
[03:24] <skuark> an usb2.0 disk
[03:24] <halfrabbit> garuhhh: iptables -F will flush all the rules until next time you boot
[03:25] <NexusGS> genii: Give me a hand plz..I don't have any other box :/ Can you tell me where i can find it?
[03:25] <genii> NexusGS: I will see if I can find a direct link
[03:25] <NexusGS> genii: Thank you very much
[03:25] <Huffalump> vim!
[03:25] <aimaz> is there a way when removing a package to remove everything that depends on it as well?
[03:25] <garuhhh> halfrabbit: thanks, will iptables -X work? or -F will do.
[03:25] <Huffalump> I knew it ...text editors always destroy audio
[03:26] <fer> is there a channel that can help me with wireless?
[03:26] <Huffalump> Hmmm, there is an entry for a VLC upgrade 2 days ago.
[03:26] <Michaeja> how do you access /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?  When I try to nano it, I get a blank file
[03:26] <Huffalump> I will uninstall and reboot
[03:26] <IdleOne> !wifi | fer
[03:26] <ubotu> fer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:26] <fer> that doc didn't help me IdleOne
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: which ttext editor di dyou install?
[03:26] <halfrabbit> garuhhh: -X will delet the non default chains -F will flush everything
[03:27] <wispy> hey
[03:27] <fer> iwlist only listed 1 network when in fact windows XP lists 3 networks here
[03:27] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - it upgraded vim, but trust me when I say I did not install it... hehehehe
[03:27] <howke1> garuhhh: what are the policies shown by iptables -L ? if all are on ACCEPT and otherwise empty, the is no "firewall" active
[03:27] <garuhhh> halfrabbit: what do you mean by flush? "remove" everything?
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: lol
[03:27] <wispy> ne chance ne1 can help me with hooking linux with wifi (netgear ma111 usb)
[03:28] <garuhhh> howke1: yes they are all ACCEPT
[03:28] <howke1> garuhhh: and empty?
[03:28] <halfrabbit> garuhhh: yea if you do iptables -F there will be no firewall rules till they get reloaded at boot or manually
[03:28] <garuhhh> howke1: they are all accept but there are items listed below it.
[03:28] <Fiish> aimaz, deborphan removes packages that are left behind, gtkorphan is the gnome GUI for it
[03:28] <predaeus> howke1: also check iptables -L -t mangle   and iptables -L -t nat
[03:28] <predaeus> howke1: maybe even iptables -L -t raw
[03:29] <fer> iwlist only listed 1 network when in fact windows XP lists 3 networks here
[03:29] <NexusGS> genii: found anything?
[03:29] <genii> not yet
[03:29] <garuhhh> halfrabbit: how do i reload them manually? (i.e. not doing the reboot)
[03:29] <genie> hello every body how to install extra dictionary in OpenOffice ?
[03:29] <wispy> actually b4 tht, where is the ubuntu version of recycling bin?
[03:29] <Fiish> aimaz, however synaptic makes a list of auto-removable packages that u can purge at the status tab
[03:30] <wispy> <sry complete n00b ^^>
[03:30] <Michaeja> how do you access /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?  When I try to nano it, I get a blank file
[03:30] <howke1> predaeus: okok
[03:30] <aimaz> Fiish: I'm modifying an ubuntu livecd I have to use command line tools because i'm chrooted into it
[03:30] <aimaz> I'll have a look at deborphan though
[03:30] <linux_kid> After typing "pon" in the Alt-F2, my modem did not dial out.  Is this the correct command????
[03:31] <Fiish> aimaz, u have to do it manually i guess, i dont know of any script that does it automatically
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> wispy: you don't have a trashcan in your panel?(near your clock)
[03:31] <alitrix> is it possible to make a ntfs mount writable?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> hmm apt-get autoremove wants to remove some 200 packages.. : some of which i am using...  odd.
[03:32] <Dr_willis> alitrix,  yes.
[03:32] <Phopsy> fglrx causes my screen to go black on boot, any ideas why?
[03:32] <alitrix> I tryed a lot of things, but it stays read-only
[03:32] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[03:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:32] <linux_kid> alitrix, google ntfs-g3
[03:32] <alitrix> k, tnx
[03:32] <Huffalump> Rebooting in the brave blue yonder
[03:32] <alitrix> so with mount it isn't possible?
[03:32] <alitrix> well, gonna check the url :0
[03:32] <alitrix> :)
[03:33] <quatrelator> hi
[03:33] <Dr_willis> alitrix,  you do use mount.. but you need the ntfs-3g modules/drivers for full write support
[03:33] <Michaeja> how do you access /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?  When I try to nano it, I get a blank file
[03:33] <alitrix> k, tnx
[03:33] <linux_kid> alitrix, ubuntu does not support ntfs outa the box, but can be modded to do so
[03:33] <alitrix> =)
[03:33] <wispy> indygunfreak: nope just clock, date and power and turn off
[03:33] <genii> NexusGS: It seems there will not be a 2.6.18 kernel for Edgy, as per here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256679
[03:33] <NexusGS> genii: yet nothing?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> dosent support 'ntfs-writing' out of the box. ;)
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> wispy: are you using Gnome or KDE?
[03:33] <wispy> gnome i think ^^
[03:34] <linux_kid> Dr_willis, thanks for the correction ;)
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> ok, your menus, is there a "K" there, or is there a Applications/Places/System menu?
[03:34] <Phopsy> fglrx causes my screen to go black on boot, any ideas why?
[03:34] <quatrelator> when i try to install the video driver of my Matrox G400 it doesn't work :/
[03:34] <meuhlavache> hello
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | quatrelator
[03:35] <ubotu> quatrelator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <quatrelator> RROR: The X server drivers included in this installation package
[03:35] <quatrelator> -e        do not support the current version of your X server.
[03:35] <wizo> why cant i run startx as a normal user?
[03:35] <wispy> indygunfreak: sorry my bad found it (its at the bottom ^^)
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> found what?... the trashcan?
[03:35] <Michaeja> how do you access /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?  When I try to nano it, I get a blank file
[03:35] <wispy> yeah
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[03:36] <NexusGS> genii: thank you for your time....
[03:36] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak:  :) i don't have Nvidia
[03:36] <eduardo30> ae
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> quatrelator: is it an ATI?
[03:36] <no_> hei p dere jeg er helt ny p ubuntu trenger lit hjelp  dvd funker ikke
[03:36] <wispy> ubotu: does that work with mobility drivers?
[03:36] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak: no it's a Matrox
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> quatrelator: but what is the chipset.
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> its likely either Nvidia or ATI
[03:36] <IdleOne> !no | no_
[03:36] <ubotu> no_: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[03:37] <no_> takk for oplysningen
[03:37] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak:  G400
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> thats the model number, not the chipset
[03:37] <wispy> ubotu: does that work with ati mobility**
[03:37] <linux_kid> wispy, ubotu is a bot
[03:38] <StoneNote> Michaeja, try sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:38] <Huffalump> No sound still.  But, I've got new behavior that concerns me.... during the boot I see "unknown key ATTRS{idvendor}" repeated several times
[03:38] <wispy> opps ><
[03:38] <alitrix> btw, what config file should I modify to remove the `beep` from shell/konsole
[03:38] <linux_kid> !ubotu | wispy
[03:38] <ubotu> wispy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:38] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak:  how can i know  the model of the chipset?
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> try google.
[03:38] <alitrix> on my laptop the beep is very high (volume)
[03:38] <Huffalump> alitrix - send me that config, I'd like to get sound back...
[03:38] <Valygar> re o.O
[03:38] <alitrix> so it's very annoying if u are tabbing and u get a high sound beep like that
[03:39] <alitrix> Huffalump: if I did know which one, sure :)
[03:39] <genii> LOL Huffalump
[03:39] <quatrelator> lspci : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. G400/G450 (rev 85)
[03:40] <newk> How do I log in as root?
[03:40] <linux_kid> ?? What do I type to make my modem make a dial connection (Alt-F2 pon isn't working)
[03:40] <wispy> isnt root the first username u make :S
[03:40] <newk> Apperently not
[03:40] <linux_kid> wispy, no
[03:40] <Huffalump> So, since we can't figure out why audio doesnt work for this user... and I'm forced to create a new user and abandon this one.... what's the command I need to copy files from one to the other.... something like   sudo cp /home/myuser /home/mynewuserwithaudio  ?
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> quatrelator: does your card have a tv tuner with it
[03:41] <newk> It keeps pissing at me like "No, you don't have permission"
[03:41] <Huffalump> I meant    sudo cp /home/myuser/* /home/mynewuserwithaudio  ?
[03:41] <linux_kid> Huffalump, extacly
[03:41] <Huffalump> ok thanks
[03:41] <howke1> :language > me
[03:41] <alitrix> newk: sudo
[03:41] <newk> So....
[03:41] <AlleyKat> good or bad? I have a 60 gb partition where I want to install ubuntu, without messing with my win (on other drive). The 60 gb partition is one of 2 on that harddrive (precisely same size), do I risk erasing the wrong partition?
[03:41] <newk> How do I log in as root?
[03:42] <newk> Yes, sudo only works in cli
[03:42] <alitrix> newk: sudo su
[03:42] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak:  o just a vha dual head
[03:42] <newk> I'm doing stuff in the GUI
[03:42] <quatrelator> vga
[03:42] <linux_kid> gksudo
[03:42] <alitrix> sudo <app>
[03:42] <alitrix> or ksudo
[03:43] <hd420> anyone care to take a look @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9641/ -- I have no idea how to fix this problem
[03:43] <newk> Yeah, that reminds me...
[03:43] <newk> Will they ever have the Kubuntu thing on the shipit thing?
[03:43] <genii> sudo cp -av /home/someusernoaudio /home/someuserwithaudio && sudo chown -R someuserwithaudio:thegrouptheybelongto /home/someuserwithaudio
[03:43] <kbrooks> newk, kubuntu.shipit.org (or .com)
[03:43] <IdleOne> newk, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <newk> Is it free?
[03:43] <garuhhh> hi again... i read what Ubotu gave me, and the article said, using iptables -F will "temporarily" disable the firewall, will it be enabled again?
[03:43] <newk> I can't install that over the net, I have dial up
[03:44] <pirate-king> E: samba: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 ....can anyone help me with this error
[03:44] <kbrooks> newk: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[03:44] <indgo> nice
[03:44] <newk> Yes, yes, I know
[03:44] <kbrooks> newk: totally free
[03:44] <newk> But is it free?
[03:44] <chavo> newk, kubutu shipit is free as wello yes
[03:44] <kbrooks> 100 percent free
[03:44] <newk> BAD ASS
[03:44] <newk> Thanks, guys
[03:44] <kbrooks> almost no catches
[03:44] <chavo> wello!
[03:44] <cable_guy> hi
[03:44] <newk> Almost....
[03:44] <wispy> whats the catch? ^^
[03:45] <kbrooks> customs taxes
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> quatrelator: what are you trying to do, make it work in Dual monitor mode?
[03:45] <indgo> bbl ... testing
[03:45] <cable_guy> winehq is down, can someone please give me the link to download the binary for ubuntu?
[03:45] <kbrooks> but thesee are rare
[03:45] <newk> I used Shipit for the normal Ubuntu twice and to me, tehre is no catch whatsoever
[03:45] <chavo> It costs you your long standing relationship with Bill G.
[03:45] <genii> pirate-king run testparm to look for syntax errors in smb.conf
[03:45] <wispy> lmao
[03:45] <kbrooks> chavo, false
[03:45] <chavo> And the time it takes to install it.
[03:45] <quatrelator> IndyGunFreak: no i've got a error message when i launch an application : libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[03:45] <pirate-king> ok
[03:45] <kbrooks> chavo, still FALSE
[03:46] <newk> *Gates
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> quatrelator: ok.
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> i have no idea.
[03:46] <superkirbyartist> Hello there.  I have to use gparted to turn on the swap, how can I do it automatically?
[03:46] <chavo> ok kbrooks sorry I got out of line with a little humor there
[03:46] <genii> pirate-king: Hangon... You can't get samba installed?
[03:46] <newk> Someday, I'm gonna be so rich, Bill Gates will mow my lawn
[03:46] <kbrooks> no one cares about bill g
[03:46] <kbrooks> in here
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: did you have any luck?
[03:46] <kbrooks> onl y about mark shuttleworth
[03:46] <pirate-king> nope installed it then removed it
[03:46] <newk> Loads of peopel care abotu Bill G
[03:46] <emet> I just want to mug him
[03:46] <wispy> ne1 here good with wifi :'( i cant get my ubunto to run with my wifi card or usb thing >< ive tried drivers but i cant make em, keep getting loads of errors :S
[03:46] <genii> (wasn't paying extremely close attention to the exact error)
[03:46] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:47] <newk> But really, someday, I'll be richer than he is
[03:47] <pirate-king> want it uninstalled
[03:47] <emet> newk, then don't forget me plz
[03:47] <kbrooks> newk, oh, really?
[03:47] <garuhhh> howke1: if i used iptables -F, will the firewall be temporarily disabled?
[03:47] <genii> pirate-king: Ah, Ok. So then in the dir /etc/init.d there is a file trying to autorun it which needs removing
[03:47] <newk> well, if you're nice to me now, I'd be happy to give you money
[03:47] <IdleOne> garuhhh, yes it will and when you reboot it will be enabled again
[03:48] <kbrooks> newk, no, i wont take money
[03:48] <newk> But there's peopel who have been mean to me, and they won't get any
[03:48] <gz_> .join #ubuntu-fr
[03:48] <gz_> oops;x
[03:48] <indgo> newk, just return the favor to other people.. that's how it all should work, people being nice to eachother, that's the best reward
[03:49] <da> hi can I ak a partitioning question?
[03:49] <garuhhh> IdleOne: thanks! how do i disable it for good? anyway, i don't know how to make good use of it...
[03:49] <newk> Yes, when I get rich (not "if", "when"), I'll give laods to charity, sure
[03:49] <IdleOne> !iptables
[03:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:49] <IdleOne> garuhhh, ^^^^
[03:49] <b-tard> Hello. I'm having some annoying problems with installing ubuntu here. The CD boots OK, but then it gets to a point where it needs to mount some stuff, and then it crashes. So, can you do a netinstall from that prompt?
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> newk: i've yet to see anyone in here be mean.
[03:49] <pirate-king> genii which file?
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> when asked a legit question
[03:50] <genii> pirate-king: Most likely /etc/init.d/samba
[03:50] <newk> If rich peopel didn't give osme to charity, we'd all have to be communists, you know,t he redistribution of wealth thing
[03:50] <wispy> o.0 btw my attemt at making the driver thing >< http://wispy.da-anime.org/makeconifg.rtf
[03:50] <pirate-king> ok
[03:50] <newk> *people
[03:50] <newk> *some
[03:50] <genii> pirate On some dists it uses /etc/init.d/smb instead but rarer
[03:50] <IdleOne> !offtopic | newk please go to #ubuntu+1 for your millionaire dreams
[03:50] <ubotu> newk please go to #ubuntu+1 for your millionaire dreams: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:50] <pjpeter> hi can someone help me i would like to make an ftp server on my website but only be able to access it from my network as it is on my secondary computer
[03:50] <superkirbyartist> Hello?  I need to turn on my swap at startup!
[03:50] <da> if I have two partitions at the moment, one with XP on and another with just stored files, when I boot Ubuntu will I be able to split the XP partition into two without damaging the storage partition?
[03:50] <IdleOne> newk, lmao I meant #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <genii> da No
[03:51] <newk> OK@offtopic
[03:51] <da> crap
[03:51] <garuhhh> idleone: thanks for the link, ubotu gave it to me a while a go.. but can't seem to understand most of it (i'm reaaaaaaaly new to linux)...
[03:51] <newk> But just for the record, I don't have millionaire dreams, I have like, trillionaire dreams
[03:51] <b-tard> I can rephrase it. Can you do a netinstall from the first "choose what to install, prompt"?
[03:51] <newk> I jsut requested the kubuntu CDs!
[03:51] <newk> :D
[03:51] <garuhhh> idleone: my problem is that, my windows pc connected to ubuntu can't ping my ubuntu... :(
[03:52] <garuhhh> idleone: but my ubuntu can ping windows...
[03:52] <Woozle> IndyGunFreak - slowly but surely, this is a big pain in the ass though
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: sounds like it, it just doesn't make any sense a tall.
[03:52] <slick_> how do you modify permissions so a normal user can write to windows partitions
[03:52] <newk> I might come back latter, I've been using Ubuntu a lot lately, so I need tech support now and then
[03:52] <newk> OK, bye
[03:52] <garuhhh> it seems i messed things up when i installed Webmin, and followed a tutorial that i wasn't able to do due to a DHCP concern... :(
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: it might e easier to just create a new user, and do away witht he one having the problem.
[03:53] <genii> slick_ in the /etc/fstab put the option "usetr" somewhere in where it has stuff like rw,auto      and so on
[03:53] <Woozle> IndyGunFreak - yes, but transfering files and permissions and so forther
[03:53] <genii> slick_ "user" rather
[03:53] <b-tard> I can rephrase it. Can you do a netinstall from the first "choose what to install, prompt"?
[03:53] <Woozle> I thought a simple line command would do it, but nope... gotta be more difficult :)
[03:53] <leon_13> who can help with the jboss,if I don't use super user ,it can't start up?
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: lol, well you could do all that before you remove the problem account.
[03:54] <newk> Wait, what was that command again?
[03:54] <da> can anyone recommend a free program to burn the Ubuntu ISO to a CD?
[03:54] <wispy> no1? :S
[03:54] <genii> k3b
[03:54] <Huffalump> IndyGunFreak - that's what I'm doing
[03:54] <newk> The one that allows me to do root stuff in the GUI
[03:54] <genii> da You mean some MS Windows free iso burning program?
[03:54] <Huffalump> it just was not as easy as I had thought it would be
[03:54] <fabrice> join #<ubuntu-fr>
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: lol, you're confusing the hell outta me is what youre doing..lol
[03:54] <da> yep
[03:54] <genii> da 1 moment
[03:55] <IdleOne> fabrice, tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[03:55] <wispy> try nero lite
[03:55] <slick_> genii I don't see that for the windows partitions, only for the DVD drive and floppy
[03:55] <genii> da http://www.cdburnerxp.se/download.php
[03:55] <newk> So, how do I do stuff as root?
[03:55] <newk> It keeps telling me I don't have permission
[03:55] <wispy> sudo before your command
[03:56] <newk> not in the CLI
[03:56] <Woozle> IndyGunFreak - We can worry if I come on as Piglet next...
[03:56] <newk> In the GUI
[03:56] <wispy> "sudo"
[03:56] <IdleOne> !sudo | newk
[03:56] <ubotu> newk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> Huffalump: System/Admin/Users and Groups...  Then highlight a user, and hit privliges.. I'd make sure the two accounts priv's match
[03:56] <newk> I  know what sudo is!!!!
[03:56] <wispy> ah no idea then
[03:56] <wispy> sry :S
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> Woozle: lol
[03:56] <newk> :(
[03:56] <da> cheers!
[03:56] <genii> slick Is there at all an entry in fstab for the partition you are mounting for this? Or have you been manually mounting it
[03:56] <newk> How do I log in as root?
[03:56] <genii> ^slick_
[03:56] <Woozle> Oh, they match.
[03:56] <IdleOne> newk, in terminal type gksu programname
[03:56] <ForgeAus> you don't
[03:56] <ForgeAus> you use sudo
[03:56] <ramza3> the thing that shuts off the monitor and starts the screensaver, what is that (acpi); why does it work sometimes and not all the time; how can I refresh it
[03:56] <Woozle> I guess I feel like an idiot, because that didn't help at all.
[03:57] <ForgeAus> and run a command as root or for gui gksu
[03:57] <newk> *sigh*
[03:57] <Woozle> Anyway, I'm doing things the hard way moving stuff one at a time
[03:57] <Woozle> via the gui
[03:57] <Woozle> like a lamer
[03:57] <hd420> anyone care to take a look @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9641/ -- I have no idea how to fix this problem
[03:57] <slick_> they mounted themselves when I installed it last night
[03:57] <Eyeore> Ah, THERE we go.
[03:57] <slick_> genii
[03:57] <kuma> hi, i want to install the gcc c++ support, i tried "sudo apt-get install gcc gcc-cpp gcc-c++" w/o success
[03:57] <IdleOne> kuma, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> kuma,  install 'build-essential' also
[03:58] <genii> slick_ Also, is the filesystem on this partition NTFS or an older type like fat16 or fat32. NTFS write support from linux is still touchy
[03:58] <newk> Hey, that reminds me
[03:58] <kuma> IdleOne i think i have
[03:58] <wispy> quick driver question for ati linux drivers  (well 2 questions)
[03:58] <slick_> NTFS
[03:58] <newk> I tried to install GCC, but it won't even compile my hello world program
[03:58] <wispy> 1. is the normal unbunto thing linux 86?
[03:58] <IdleOne> !universe | kuma enable universe and multiverse then sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:58] <ubotu> kuma enable universe and multiverse then sudo aptitude install build-essential: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:58] <kuma> Dr_willis build-essential? with the same syntaxis in the apt-get?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> wispy,  i belive so..
[03:58] <pjpeter> hi can anyone help me i would like to make an ftp server but only access it from my network
[03:58] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[03:58] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:58] <genii> slick_ Then I refer you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[03:58] <Dr_willis> kuma,  its a meta-package
[03:58] <slick_> thanks
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> wispy: its not ubunto, its ubuntu
[03:59] <pirate-king> E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:59] <garuhhh> i can't ping the computer connected to mine! what can i do?
[03:59] <pirate-king> anyone?
[03:59] <IdleOne> kuma, build-essential is a meta-package has all the tools needed for compiling i.e make gcc and all that good stuff
[03:59] <martalli> !EasySource
[03:59] <wispy> 2. will the ati 9000 drivers work for a laptop mobility (9000) chipset thing ^^ and sry indygunfreak ubuntu*
[03:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:59] <slick_> genii would you recommend that I don't write to NTFS then, might it corrupt some of my data?
[03:59] <da> sorry another question is there an equivilent to expose for ubuntu?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> garuhhh: get up and walk to it??? ;)
[03:59] <kuma> IdleOne Dr_willis ok, installing build-essential
[03:59] <hd420> slick_: no, go ahead, it may corrupt your data, but then you fix the problem and submit a patch :)
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> garuhhh: seriously, I don't know how to connect up two PC's the way you're trying
[04:00] <genii> slick_ If possible it is better to have some shared ext3 partition and then use a windoze ext3 driver
[04:00] <IdleOne> kuma, apt-get wont find it if you havent enabled universe and multiverse
[04:00] <genii> slick_ eg: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:00] <garuhhh> indygunfreak: they're connected via crosscable
[04:00] <kuma> IdleOne looks like i have since it's installing
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> garuhhh: right, i know.
[04:00] <garuhhh> what seems to be wrong?
[04:00] <IdleOne> kuma,  great !
[04:00] <garuhhh> my ubuntu can ping my other machine.
[04:01] <slick_> genii thanks I'll look into doing that, this is only my second day using linux so submitting patches is a bit past me atm
[04:02] <genii> slick_ The windoze ext3 driver is the best solution. Also no 4Gb limit that a fat32 partition would have for instance, so DVD iso copying is possible across platforms, etc
[04:02] <genii> Huffalump Did you remember to chown the old files you copied over to the new user's directory?
[04:03] <kuma> IdleOne Dr_willis thanks a lot, it solved the problem
[04:03] <IdleOne> kuma, your welcome
[04:03] <slick_> genii, good stuff, my disks are about full so that gives me an excuse to buy a new hard drive to make it pure ext3 which I will be able to store all my work on :)
[04:03] <genii> slick_ :)
[04:03] <hd420> IdleOne: care to take a look @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9641/ -- I have no idea how to fix this problem
[04:04] <IdleOne> hd420, you need to -reinstall that package or try to and then after it is installed properly try to -remove it
[04:04] <hd420> How?
[04:04] <hd420> I did try to and it still doesn't work
[04:04] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get -reinstall package.name
[04:05] <IdleOne> heh is -reinstall a command??
[04:05] <hd420> no, it's not
[04:05] <Godsey> did sysvconfig replace rcconf?
[04:05] <genii> it is a switch to a command
[04:05] <wispy> newk did u get an asnwer?
[04:06] <pjpeter> can anyone help me i would like to make an ftp server on my computer but only access it from my network
[04:06] <superkirbyartist> Je voudrais que le SWAP se charge automatiquement SVP.
[04:06] <hd420> still getting the same error
[04:06] <IdleOne> hd420, it's --reinstall with two --
[04:06] <garuhhh> pleeease.. i need help :(  i can't ping my ubuntu, but i can ping the other machine connected to it... what seems to be wrong?
[04:06] <IdleOne> gotta go
[04:07] <genii> IdleOne: It is usually used as: apt-get --reinstall install <somepackagehere>
[04:07] <cable_guy> after adding something to my sources.list, how can i install a package and be sure that it's coming from that source?
[04:07] <hd420> IdleOne: it's apt-get --reinstall install  <package> and it still didn't work
[04:07] <K3nto> hey im having some rendering issue when running an app http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9652/
[04:07] <hd420> genii: would you mind  taking a look at the paste?
[04:08] <genii> hd420 I'm a bit tired but sure. Whats the link?
[04:08] <Huffalump> genii - no, I didn't have to chown because I'm literally using the "copy" from gui which automagically gives me permission
[04:08] <genii> Huffalump: :)
[04:08] <hd420> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9641/ -- many thanks
[04:08] <Huffalump> genii - I know, I know... but...
[04:09] <genii> hd420 OK, reading
[04:10] <joao_ronconi>  :o
[04:11] <pjpeter> can anyone help me i would like to make an ftp server but only access it from my network
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> !anyone | pjpeter
[04:11] <hd420> genii: any idea?
[04:11] <ubotu> pjpeter: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:12] <genii> hd420 I'd try sudo apt-get autoclean or possibly   --fix-broken
[04:12] <kritzstapf> are there 2.6.19 kernel-images for edgy on any repo?
[04:12] <pirate-king> I get this error
[04:12] <wastrel> goooooooooooooooooooooooood morning
[04:13] <gouki> 'morning
[04:13] <pirate-king> E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:14] <hd420> genii: both don't work
[04:14] <hd420> still getting the same error
[04:14] <genii> Feisty can go to 2.6.20-9
[04:14] <wastrel> "feisty"
[04:14] <genii> kritzstapf: Last Edgy kernel is 2.6.17n unless you want to roll yer own
[04:15] <genii> hd420 OK, thinking
[04:15] <dimeotane> what command to find out what version my kernel is?
[04:15] <ForgeAus> yeah 2.6.17 is what adept updated me to
[04:15] <kritzstapf> genii, yes, but ehci is buggy in 2.6.17-11 for me
[04:15] <ForgeAus> just check out your /boot directory
[04:15] <ForgeAus> it tells you the vers of the kernel
[04:15] <hd420> uname -v
[04:15] <genii> kritzstapf: There's always the "roll yer own" opetion
[04:15] <ForgeAus> your vmzlinux<version here>
[04:15] <pjpeter> does any know how to make an ftp server and could they help me
[04:16] <ramza3> anyone know how I can get the adobe flash player for google videos to work
[04:16] <ForgeAus> oops vmzlinuz-<version>-generic
[04:16] <kritzstapf> genii, hm, but i can use the exisiting config so i dont have to check all those kernel-options?
[04:16] <ramza3> I did the FF install pllugin and it failed
[04:16] <genii> kritzstapf: Usually, yes
[04:16] <hd420> uname -r, I mean
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> kernel version is uname -4
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> uname -r
[04:17] <pjpeter> does anyone know how to make an ftp server and could they help me
[04:17] <hd420> IndyGunFreak: :)
[04:17] <wastrel> ramza3:  do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> was typing at the same time i guess.. :)
[04:17] <hd420> pjpeter: "make an ftp server"?
[04:17] <genii> hd420 try: sudo apt-get --purge remove courier-authdaemon       then
[04:17] <dimeotane> my kernel is 2.6.17.11 is that the latest kernel then?
[04:17] <ramza3> wastrel, yea
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> uname -a
[04:17] <wastrel> ramza3:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <genii> dimeotane: For Edgy, yes
[04:17] <pjpeter> yes on my computer network
[04:18] <hd420> genii: same problem
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> lsb_release -a  also will give handy info.. not about the kernel though.
[04:18] <genii> hd420 OK may have to poke into dpkg
[04:18] <adminx> Good Morning from Marietta GA
[04:18] <hd420> genii: I have no problem doing that
[04:18] <elias> Is there any command to list installed sound cards in my system?
[04:18] <ramza3> adminx: good morning in decatur, ga
[04:19] <pjpeter> hd420 yes
[04:19] <Huffalump> Gata.  Done.  Thanks for all your efforts, ladies and gentlemen.  We may not have achieved the objective, but we live to fight another day!
[04:19] <hd420> but I just don't know which command option to use.
[04:19] <wastrel> elias:  try lspci | grep -i audio
[04:19] <hd420> pjpeter: you really need to learn to ask better questions mate
[04:19] <elias> ok, thanks
[04:19] <ramza3> wastrel, how do I hook it into FF
[04:20] <wastrel> ramza3:  it's automatic,  you'll need to quit and relaunch ff
[04:20] <adminx> Can anyone point me to a good HowTo for Feisty Fawn (7.04) and Bluetooth Audio?
[04:20] <pjpeter> hd420 i am having a problem making an ftp server on my network
[04:20] <genii> hd420 does apt-cache search courier-authdaemon           produce a result for the source of that package?
[04:22] <dimeotane> I love waking up to new updates... it's like getting 'presents'   =)
[04:23] <Huffalump> In XChat, I was unable to find the option to not display joins/parts.  Anyone know where it is, offhand?
[04:23] <rdz> how does ubuntu sychronize time with servers?
[04:23] <Western_Digital> it does
[04:23] <Western_Digital> like windows does
[04:25] <lilrayray> hi all, I have just installed beryl, and when I run it, my screen goes white and all I see is my cursor, does anyone know how i might fix this?
[04:25] <wastrel> lucky windows showed how it was done so we could copy their brilliant ntp idea
[04:26] <jamison_> Does anyone know the command for the kiba dock control panel
[04:26] <alitrix> lilrayray: try #ubuntu-effects
[04:26] <genii> hd420: Still here?
[04:26] <hd420> yes
[04:26] <seishi> i need a tip, i used apache2 plus libapache2-mod-php5.. i removed libapache2-mod-php5, and yesterday i tried to install libapache2-mod-php5 but it seems the instalation isnt happening.. because this file should be in this location /etc/apache2/mods-avaiable/php5.conf, but isnt there
[04:26] <Thuggin_> irc.azzurra.it
[04:26] <dager> y
[04:26] <upd> hi im running firestarter and than apt don`t want download packet why?
[04:27] <wastrel> seishi:  perhaps you could create a dummmy  php5.conf in that location and try again?
[04:27] <Western_Digital> lawl
[04:27] <Western_Digital> Yah, that would work
[04:27] <genii> d420 perhaps try: sudo dpkg --force-reinstreq --remove courier-authdaemon
[04:28] <jamison_> Does anyone know the command for kiba-dock conf panel?
[04:28] <genii> hd420 perhaps try: sudo dpkg --force-reinstreq --remove courier-authdaemon
[04:29] <skuark> how many time, approximately, can delay gpart scanning an external 320Gb usb disk?
[04:29] <Huffalump> I have VMWare installed.  Every bloody time I install or update just about anything, vmware goes around probing for unused subnets and I have to manually permit it (generally two dozen times or more, depending on how much is updating or installing).  Is there any way to automate a "yes" so I'm not asked?
[04:29] <kuma> hi, i've just compilad an application now i want to install it. What directory do you think it'll be best to store compiled-by-the-user apps? i don't like to store apps in my /home/ dir
[04:30] <wastrel> seishi:  are you having a problem with the package system?
[04:30] <genii> kuma Did not "make install" put the binaries where they should have went?
[04:31] <hd420>  genii: dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `reinstreq'
[04:32] <kuma> genii: err... good question... how can i know that? i checked the applications menu but didn't find the game
[04:32] <kuma> genii: *the application
[04:32] <genii> hd420 Weird, it's in the man page
[04:32] <mirak> why does ubuntu installer always put the swap at the end of disk ??
[04:32] <ucordes_> ist ja ganz hbsch
[04:32] <ucordes_> sry chan
[04:33] <wastrel> mirak:  because otherwise / wouldn't be a single partition :] 
[04:33] <genii> kuma Do you know the name of the object file (binary) it was creating?
[04:33] <mirak> wastrel: what ?
[04:33] <wastrel> unless you want swap at the beginning and the rest /
[04:33] <kuma> genii: nope =/
[04:33] <hd420> genii: manpages on linux are sorely out of date, ime
[04:33] <genii> Hmm
[04:34] <charl_ie> can anyone help me with the rt73 drivers? i can see the interface in network-admin, but i can't connect to my wireless network
[04:34] <mjunx> which manpages, hd420?
[04:34] <hd420> mjunx: most of them
[04:34] <mjunx> er, how so?
[04:34] <mirak> wastrel: the disk is faster at the begining, that's why I don't understand why put the swap at the end
[04:34] <genii> hd420 Offhand I'm out of immediate ideas but maybe the man pages for apt-get and dpkg may give you some other ideas LOL
[04:34] <hd420> genii: thanks
[04:35] <wastrel> mirak:  the answer is that / is at the beginning
[04:35] <genii> kuma Did you do the command "make install" or just "make" when tyou compiled it?
[04:35] <mirak> the answer to what ?
[04:35] <kuma> genii: I ran the make install
[04:35] <seishi> wastrel, i dont know if it is problem with the package system
[04:36] <runa> hi i learned about ettercap and i want to know if there is a way to catch if somebody is using it
[04:36] <genii> kuma Hmm OK. Can you put the contents of the Makefile on the pastebin site? I may glean something from it
[04:36] <jeanre> hi all
[04:36] <Western_Digital> hello
[04:36] <jeanre> how can I see which version of ubuntu I havE?
[04:36] <genii> kuma It may be that ./configure was needed to correctly set it up for debian paths
[04:36] <wastrel> seishi:  iirc apt remembers when you remove a config file and won't reinstall it.  you should  --purge remove the current package, and reinstall & see if that fixes it.   or create a dummy file there, and remove & reinstall   there may be a more elegant solution.
[04:37] <kuma> genii: i'll paste it
[04:37] <genii> kuma Thanks
[04:37] <jeanre> I need to isntall nvidia drivers
[04:37] <ben325e_> Hi, I'm just learning linux, so I've got ubuntu and kubuntu installed so I can switch sessions and find out if I like gnome or kde better.  The fonts for open office in gnome (edgy) and sometimes firefox look crappy compared to the kde counterparts.... anyone have any idea why?
[04:37] <jeanre> but I dont know which version of ubuntu this is
[04:38] <Dr_willis> jeanre,  what one did you download?
[04:38] <wastrel> jeanre:  lsb_release -a
[04:38] <jeanre> Dr_willis: it was a few weeks back
[04:38] <runa> hi i learned about ettercap and i want to know if there is a way to catch if somebody is using it, because i have hte suspect that somebody is using it
[04:38] <loca|host> can grub boot on a foreign filesystem ? mounted by sshfs for example ...
[04:38] <charl_ie> hi, can anyone help me with the rt73 drivers? i can see the interface in network-admin, but i can't connect to my wireless network
[04:38] <Dr_willis> jeanre,  i would guess its the 'edgy' release then.. login toi the console and see what it says..
[04:38] <mirak> can edgy installer install on already existing LVM partitions ?
[04:38] <hd420>  genii: remove-reinstreq is the option you wanted
[04:38] <Dr_willis> loca|host,  not that i am aware of.
[04:38] <hd420> and it's still not solving the problem
[04:39] <loca|host> Dr_willis, why ?
[04:39] <jeanre> thanks guys
[04:39] <genii> hd420 Ah, I knew it was something like that...ah, but still no joy I see
[04:39] <jeanre> now question
[04:39] <kuma> genii: it's quite lenghty
[04:39] <jeanre> beryl or xgl?
[04:39] <genii> kuma Thats fine
[04:39] <kuma> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9662/
[04:39] <Dr_willis> loca|host,  grub is just a little program.. you expect it to have full networking support and ssh support?
[04:39] <genii> kuma Just give me the url of the pastebin you put it to
[04:40] <genii> :)
[04:40] <loca|host> Dr_willis, lilo ? another way to do it ?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> loca|host,  and theres 'netbooting' features on most MB's these days.. so its not needed
[04:40] <jeanre> man its good to be back in the unix world :)
[04:40] <kuma> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9662/
[04:40] <jeanre> Dr_willis: may I pm?
[04:40] <genii> kuma Got it, reading
[04:41] <mirak> can edgy installer install on already existing LVM partitions ?
[04:41] <charl_ie> can anyone help me with wireless networking?
[04:42] <Priest-of-Psi> what is the other wm like beryl?
[04:42] <ben325e_> compiz priest
[04:42] <ben325e_> compiz is more stable afaik
[04:43] <Priest-of-Psi> ben325e_:  have you isntalled it?
[04:43] <ben325e_> yup, and it does work better on my box,
[04:43] <Edin> Hello all
[04:43] <Edin> i have a slight problem
[04:43] <Priest-of-Psi> ben325e_: mind if I pm?
[04:43] <ben325e_> ok
[04:43] <Edin> my linux is telling me i dont have permission to edit sources.list
[04:44] <EvilGuru> How can I re-install GNOME and /all/ of its packages (a bad update that I think failed a while ago has been causing me issues and I want to re-get everything)
[04:44] <hillou> edin: have you tried as root
[04:44] <ekimus> Edin: sudo
[04:45] <ekimus> how do I find the patches ubuntu uses for it's kernels?
[04:45] <kuma> genii: i think i found an error in the make install mkdir
[04:45] <genii> kuma Geez, that is a hefty Makefile
[04:45] <Edin> send me a command please
[04:45] <Priest-of-Psi> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <Priest-of-Psi> Edin: already did mate
[04:45] <kuma> genii: should i do try the make install again?
[04:45] <Priest-of-Psi> gosh
[04:45] <Priest-of-Psi> nvidia.com is slow
[04:46] <genii> kuma Is there some README or similar in that directory?
[04:46] <Priest-of-Psi> ben325e_: is your nick registerd?
[04:46] <ben325e_> today's my first day with irc., so prob not.
[04:46] <Priest-of-Psi> ah
[04:46] <kuma> genii: no, i think i've found an error, i'll come later after i've figured out what's happening
[04:46] <Priest-of-Psi> ben325e_:  you have msn?
[04:46] <hillou> psi: maybe nano is a bit easier than vim.
[04:47] <kuma> genii: looks like my HD is set for read only
[04:47] <charl_ie> hi all, can anyone help me with wireless networking?
[04:47] <genii> kuma OK. It should be installing to $bindir whatever that was set at
[04:47] <ben325e_> no.... I've got everything a fresh kubuntu install has...
[04:47] <Jeruvy> anyone know if there is a way to get xmms to play files over a samba share?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Jeruvy,  mount them to a directory, dont use the smb: samba: stuff from the desktop file managers
[04:47] <Edin> that worked thanks
[04:48] <impeto> I've a quest if is possible. [Edgy+AIXGL+COMPIZ+GNOME]  ... programs (I think with GTK like NeroLinux) have a strange theme either controls and fonts... Someone has an idea for change this one?
[04:48] <jeffreyosborn> hey, is this a place where I can ask a silly question?
[04:48] <Jeruvy> Dr_willis: I'll try that.  Thx!
[04:49] <genii> kuma more specifically $destdir $bindir of which neither seem to be globally set
[04:49] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, not really, you should ask a specific ubuntu question and then see what replies you get
[04:49] <ekimus> !aks | tings_b_buggin
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <mirak> can edgy desktop installer install on already existing LVM partitions ?
[04:49] <ekimus> !ask | tings_b_buggin
[04:49] <ubotu> tings_b_buggin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:50] <incorperated> hello
[04:50] <anonymeeee> !wireless
[04:50] <tings_b_buggin> hehe, sorry, that makes sense
[04:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:50] <incorperated> hey can someone help me with something
[04:50] <EvilGuru> what is scrollkeeper-up as whever I have a problem updating it is normally the cause
[04:50] <Priest-of-Psi> incorperated: witih what?
[04:50] <ekimus> !aks | incorperated
[04:50] <incorperated> i need help installing java sun
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <tings_b_buggin> I just installed 6.10 server.  But, I can't boot into it.  When I turn the machine on, I get a flashing cursor after the BIOS is done initializing itself
[04:51] <ekimus> damn aks ask ubotu need some spellchecking :)
[04:51] <tings_b_buggin> Does anyone know whats goin on?
[04:52] <ompaul> !bootoptions | tings_b_buggin
[04:52] <ubotu> tings_b_buggin: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[04:52] <incorperated> so can someone help me install java sun
[04:52] <facugaich> !java | incorperated
[04:52] <ubotu> incorperated: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:52] <bulmer> incorperated: what have you done so far in getting it installed?
[04:53] <incorperated> nothing yet
[04:53] <incorperated> idk where to go
[04:53] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, ^^ please try turning off some of the daemons, and have a look maybe at installing rcconf
[04:53] <bulmer> incorperated: you need to prefix your responses with a nick
[04:53] <incorperated> ok
[04:53] <incorperated> im new so step by step would really help
[04:53] <incorperated> id appreciate it
[04:53] <garuhhh> hi! how do i restart my network?
[04:54] <mirak> can edgy desktop installer install on already existing LVM partitions ?
[04:54] <incorperated> if someone is willing to give the time
[04:54] <bulmer> incorperated: i'd also appreciate if you have done some initial work like reading tutorials
[04:54] <Jowi> garuhhh, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:54] <incorperated> i do but usually i dont understand
[04:54] <incorperated> them
[04:54] <incorperated> trust me i try
[04:54] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, I can't access the operating system at all..it won't boot
[04:54] <garuhhh> jowi: ok, i'll try that.
[04:54] <bulmer> incorperated: then when you get stuck, thats the time we will assist you
[04:55] <incorperated> ok
[04:55] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, well if you can't pass options I suggest a reinstall
[04:55] <Priest-of-Psi> this sucks 153kb/s on 4mb DSL
[04:55] <incorperated> so should i go to java.vom and get sun java or somewhere else
[04:55] <charl_ie> anonymeeee, thank you
[04:55] <Dr_willis> !java
[04:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:55] <Priest-of-Psi> incorperated: there is a wiki entry on this
[04:55] <bulmer> incorperated: just google for "ubuntu java install tutorial"  like so
[04:55] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, I tried that already.  The only strange thing is that I couldn't configure my networking options...otherwise both installs have gone very smoothly
[04:55] <Dr_willis> incorperated,  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <garuhhh> jowi, its working! what i did a while ago was to go to the folder /etc/init.d/ then typed networking restart! what's wrong with that?
[04:55] <adminx> Can anyone point me to a good HowTo for Feisty Fawn (7.04) and Bluetooth Audio?
[04:56] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, so how new is the hardware?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> adminx,  given that feisty is still a work in progress.. i doubt if many detailed docs like tht exist for it yet.
[04:56] <bulmer> garuhhh: what are you attempting to do?
[04:56] <Jowi> garuhhh, maybe you did not use "sudo" or, when you are in the same dir as the command you use ./commandname
[04:56] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, two weeks.  Its got Win2k running on it, though, so all of it works properly
[04:56] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone use ROR here?
[04:57] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, then I have to question your install CD
[04:57] <genii> hd420: Have you tried to uninstall it from aptitude? A user here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324478&page=2 reported this worked in his case
[04:57] <garuhhh> jowi: ooowww.. that's where i screwed up.. i didn't use ./
[04:57] <garuhhh> jowi: thanks so much!!
[04:57] <Jowi> garuhhh, no problem.
[04:57] <hd420> genii: I don't use aptitude
[04:57] <garuhhh> bulmer: i was trying to restart my network.. :D
[04:57] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, do an md5sum on the image before you use the CD again
[04:58] <mike1o> i have a BIG problem here: i have a good laser printer whose drivers are available only for Windows... is there a any way to print using windows drivers? i tried printing with smbshare without success... what can I do?
[04:58] <bulmer> garuhhh: how exactly are you issuing the command?
[04:58] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, I verified it before I booted it.  You know, its not even getting to a GRUB menu....could the problem be with GRUB?
[04:58] <bulmer> mike1o: which printer?
[04:58] <Jowi> mike1o, first have a look at linuxpringing.org
[04:59] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, if it is not installed then I wonder about the Disk being okay
[04:59] <Jowi> mike1o, linuxprinting.org (corrected typo)
[04:59] <mike1o> bulmer, Jowi done that already... the printer is definately NOT supported...
[04:59] <incorperated> hey dr willis
[04:59] <incorperated> i did sudo apt-get install the java
[04:59] <garuhhh> bulmer: it's ok now, jowi corrected me, i didn't use ./   i just went to the directory and then called "networking restart"
[05:00] <hillou> buggin: so now you cant even start Windows?
[05:00] <incorperated> and it said Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:00] <incorperated> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:00] <incorperated> is only available from another source
[05:00] <incorperated> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[05:00] <incorperated> allan@croma:~$
[05:00] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, so here is what I suggest burn another disk - I have installed ubuntu server and desktop on a huge amount of boxes recently
[05:00] <genii> hd420 May work but a longshot I think:  sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove courier-authdaemon
[05:00] <bulmer> garuhhh: or you can use the full path also
[05:00] <wastrel> !info sun-java5-jre
[05:00] <ompaul> !paste | incorperated
[05:00] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[05:00] <ubotu> incorperated: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <garuhhh> bulmer: anyway, my problem is i can't ping my ubuntu from my windows, but i can ping my windows from my ubuntu :(
[05:00] <Jowi> mike1o, you might be out of luck. or, there might be a similar driver to use. depends on the printer. got a name + model number?
[05:00] <incorperated> Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:00] <incorperated> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:00] <incorperated> is only available from another source
[05:00] <incorperated> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[05:00] <incorperated> allan@croma:~$
[05:00] <mike1o> Jowi, bulmer, i have even tried similar printers... but it just prints rubbish
[05:01] <wastrel> twice!
[05:01] <genii> hd420 (from a debian site)
[05:01] <mike1o> Jowi, xerox workcentre pro 412
[05:01] <garuhhh> bulmer: anyway, my problem is i can't ping my ubuntu from my windows, but i can ping my windows from my ubuntu :( can you help me?
[05:01] <bulmer> garuhhh: are they on same subnet?
[05:01] <garuhhh> yes they are...
[05:01] <garuhhh> 255.255.255.0
[05:01] <Priest-of-Psi> man ubuntu rocks
[05:01] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, thanks...I'll try burning it again.  The md5 for the ISO is correct
[05:01] <bulmer> garuhhh: which subnet again?
[05:02] <garuhhh> 255.255.255.0
[05:02] <Emilius> Hello
[05:02] <bulmer> garuhhh: thats not a valid subnet
[05:02] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, try the desktop install it might show some other information
[05:02] <Emilius> Does anybody know how I can force mono on all audio outputs?
[05:02] <ompaul> tings_b_buggin, if it works then there was a problem with the disk
[05:02] <garuhhh> bulmer: ows? what should i put? my ip is 192.168.0.1 and 2
[05:02] <bulmer> mike1o: there are other solutions..hang on..let me look for my bookmark
[05:02] <garuhhh> bulmer... i mean that was my subnet mask.. :D
[05:03] <bulmer> garuhhh: hang tight..i have to look up something
[05:03] <hd420> genii: do me a favour?
[05:03] <genii> hd420 Sure if possible
[05:03] <mike1o> bulmer, I am planning on installing on dual boot mode... and use the windows partition for offline printing only
[05:03] <hd420> genii: put up /bin/true on a site?
[05:03] <mike1o> bulmer, Jowi, emulation with qemu is not very efficient
[05:04] <genii> hd420 I am on a windoze box right now, so not easily possible
[05:04] <Priest-of-Psi> is there video support for skype yet?
[05:04] <hd420> genii: no worries
[05:04] <MAJMUN> hello
[05:04] <genii> hd420 My ubuntu laptop is at work
[05:04] <chrissy2feet> greetings
[05:05] <MAJMUN> what`s requirements for Ubuntu?
[05:05] <ucordes> mike1o: it is gpl'ed :)
[05:05] <tings_b_buggin> ompaul, tnanks...I'll try that
[05:05] <chrissy2feet> i need some help, my left channels been buzzing like a bitch and i cant take the high pitched noise anymore
[05:05] <chrissy2feet> i found some forum posts on google but they mean nothin to me
[05:05] <hd420> ok, I fixed it
[05:06] <hd420> or rather worked around it
[05:06] <aingeru> epaaa
[05:06] <genii> MAJMUN: To install from livecd about 128Mb ram, 2.5Gb hd space and a cpu about 233 or faster, preferably better than a p2 but still works on that
[05:06] <bulmer> mike1o: google for this web site  "heretrythis" he's got elaborate explaination on printing
[05:06] <hd420> genii: many thanks, mate
[05:06] <truvisionary> I can't shut my computer down, I had ubuntu and I installed kubuntu so I could use both but now something is wrong, I cant change my Login Window and I can't shutdown my computer
[05:06] <mike1o> ucordes, u mean qemu is gpl'ed?
[05:06] <genii> hd420 Well, gave it a shot anyhow
[05:07] <ucordes> mike1o: yop
[05:07] <zentradi> how do i install mouse pointer themes i've downloaded from gnome-look.org?
[05:07] <bulmer> truvisionary: easy to shut off computer..if you got an off switch
[05:07] <hd420> genii: I fixed the problem, kind of, anyway
[05:07] <mike1o> bulmer, i have even considered writing the driver myself... !
[05:07] <genii> hd420 I'm curious now to what approach worked (at least even somewhat)
[05:07] <hd420> sudo cp /bin/true /usr/sbin/courierlogger
[05:07] <genii> hd420 Pray tell
[05:08] <bulmer> mike1o: that site explains how to use a windoz only printers with linux and all
[05:08] <genii> hd420 Ah, OK
[05:08] <AbiGeuS> 
[05:08] <hd420> genii: it was trying to execute the file and getting an error, so I just copied /bin/true to it and it went forward
[05:08] <mike1o> bulmer, found it i'll let u know what i can make of it... tnx!
[05:08] <bulmer> garuhhh: okay, whats the ip of your windoz box and your linux box?
[05:08] <Cc2iscooL> I've got a unique(?) problem. My touchpad on my laptop works perfectly when I boot the computer, but after going into hibernate mode (and then returning from it) the mouse wheel function of the touchpad no longer functions. If I reboot the machine it works properly again...does anyone know why this might be occuring?
[05:08] <genii> Interesting
[05:08] <_genie_> hi all
[05:08] <garuhhh> bulmer: my windows is 192.168.0.2 linux is 192.168.0.1
[05:08] <zentradi> how do i install mouse pointer themes i've downloaded from gnome-look.org?
[05:09] <K3nto> grrr. i hate the black boxes that form when you minimize stuff
[05:09] <_genie_> how to import pst folder <MS Outlook> to Evolution?
[05:09] <bulmer> garuhhh: okay, and these are connected on same hub right?
[05:09] <garuhhh> bulmer: they're conected via crosscables..
[05:09] <genii> garuhhh: 192.168.0.1 is an entire network, not a number for a specific machine. If possible you should have it as 192.168.0.3 or at least not x.x.0.1
[05:10] <bulmer> garuhhh: why mess around with those crosscables? when hubs are aplenty and cheap,, cheap?
[05:10] <Jowi> mike1o, xerox seem to have no driver available for anything else than win. however, over at ibm.com I see that it uses HP PCL6 and the following pdt files: hppcl5.pdt / HPLJ4.PDT. maybe that will help you. taken from here: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas1cc6ee2005999a36d862569c100796da4
[05:10] <_genie_> any idea?
[05:10] <garuhhh> bulmer: in my case, crosscables are cheaper, i made it.. :D
[05:10] <genii> garuhhh: Forget last statement, I am tired and messing up
[05:10] <bulmer> garuhhh: but is it guaranteed working? :)
[05:11] <genii> Well, my cue to sleep :)
[05:11] <genii> goodnight all
[05:11] <garuhhh> bulmer: yes it is, had it checked up with a network tester
[05:11] <bulmer> garuhhh: then, what is the result of netstat -rn  on windows side?
[05:11] <garuhhh> bulmer: i had this network working two nights ago... i was already sharing internet from my ubuntu, now i can't even ping it!
[05:11] <garuhhh> bulmer: ok. i'll try netstat -rn
[05:12] <bulmer> garuhhh: tell us whats the gateway ip address from that
[05:12] <mike1o> Jowi, where do u suggest i go about getting the driver to test it out?
[05:13] <garuhhh> bulmer: i had my gateway in the windows to be 192.168.0.1
[05:13] <garuhhh> bulmer:i'm using my linux as gateway for the windows
[05:14] <kbrooks> !info frozen-bubble
[05:14] <garuhhh> bulmer: i swear, it's working the other night! dunno what went wrong, may be a firewall?
[05:14] <bulmer> garuhhh: how are you pinging the linux box? exact command please
[05:14] <kbrooks> ubotu, info frozen-bubble
[05:14] <garuhhh> bulmer: ping 192.168.0.1
[05:14] <kbrooks> oh, not here
[05:15] <bulmer> garuhhh: okay, how about pinging localhost from windows?
[05:15] <garuhhh> bulmer: from windows, i type ping 192.168.0.1
[05:15] <ala> hello all...
[05:15] <bulmer> garuhhh: umm do you have a firewall on your ubuntu side?
[05:15] <_genie_> hello all
[05:15] <ala> whatever happened to libdvdcss in feisty?
[05:16] <garuhhh> firestarter is not ON right now... i mean i can't see it on my desktop..
[05:16] <wastrel> feisty #ubuntu+1
[05:16] <_genie_> need to migrate from MS Outlook to Evolution Mail, how to move my emails from .PST folder to Evolution mail?
[05:16] <garuhhh> bulmer: the last time, when i started Firestarter, i was able to ping!
[05:17] <bulmer> garuhhh:  can you please dis--able your firewall first so you can easily troubleshoot?
[05:17] <garuhhh> bulmer: how do i do that?
[05:17] <garuhhh> bulmer: am sorry, i 'm really new in this
[05:17] <lingdong> test
[05:17] <bulmer> garuhhh: i dont know how to use Firestarter, um kill the pid of Firestarter?
[05:18] <albacker> Is it possible to make XMMS transparent !?
[05:18] <genii> crap found the solution to dh420's issue and now he left
[05:18] <ala> garuhhh: try sudo /etc/init.d/firstarter stop
[05:18] <Jowi> mike1o, maybe this one but unsure http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer
[05:18] <genii> hd420 rather
[05:18] <garuhhh> bulmer: i was trying a while ago, typed "iptables -F" nothing happened
[05:18] <IndyGunFreak> i'm still trying to figure out why folks use software firewalls.
[05:18] <Jowi> mike1o, got to leave for a while now, good luck
[05:18] <upsilon> hello
[05:18] <hd420> genii: I'm still here
[05:18] <bulmer> garuhhh: let me just tell you, firewall may be on the way of your troubleshooting, so kill it for now
[05:18] <genii> hd420 Sorry had dh and hd reversed :) Found the answer anyhow
[05:19] <Edin> can someone walk me through installing wine tools
[05:19] <garuhhh> bulmer: nothing happened :(
[05:19] <genii> hd420 Found it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: i don't think so, but it might be
[05:19] <albacker> If anyone can answer me.. can i make XMMS transparent, semi-transparent i mean !
[05:19] <ramza3> can I type something at the terminal to logout of gnome, my mouse locked up
[05:19] <bulmer> garuhhh: what did you do ?
[05:19] <albacker> IndyGunFreak, have never heard about it ?
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: no i haven't.... it'd be cool though
[05:19] <garuhhh> bulmer : i typed /etc/init.d/firestarter stop
[05:19] <Edin> can anyone walk me through installing winetools?
[05:19] <Edin> nvm
[05:19] <garuhhh> ala: thanks ala!
[05:20] <bulmer> ramza3: yes, ctrl+alt+f2  and login
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: every screenshot i've ever saw, etc, it was skinned.
[05:20] <kelsin> Edin: do you have a reason to want winetools, it's not as needed as it used to be
[05:20] <kurumin> EAE
[05:20] <bulmer> garuhhh:  check the firewall if its up or there are any rules
[05:20] <kurumin> EAE
[05:20] <albacker> IndyGunFreak, thanks
[05:20] <ramza3> bulmer: uh, that gets me to the console, how does that help
[05:20] <Owen_> I have created a 5Gb unassigned partition on my harddrive using windows, but ubuntu cannot find my harddrive to install onto?
[05:20] <hjmills> hi all - where does the openssh-server log stuff?
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: did you ry google?
[05:21] <garuhhh> bulmer: how do i do that? iptables-L?
[05:21] <bulmer> ramza3: umm have you heard of kill command?  man kill
[05:21] <adminx> Anyone here use irssi?
[05:21] <Zoffix> Hi, I just had a power failure and now when I try to start either xchat or xchat-gnome they just freeze, I tried to reinstall them already and they still freeze. What should I do? Are there some checks that I should run?
[05:21] <bulmer> garuhhh: man iptables
[05:21] <kelsin> !anyone | adminx
[05:21] <ubotu> adminx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:21] <albacker> IndyGunFreak, yes, but i got nothing.
[05:21] <kelsin> adminx: there is also a #irssi channel on freenode
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: yeah, id on't think i've ever saw xmms transparent... maybe beep, i don't know.
[05:22] <garuhhh> bulmer: yes i did the iptables thing: i got 3 CHAINS (INPUT,FORWARD, OUTPUT)
[05:22] <kelsin> albacker: you can get it that way with compiz or beryl, but that involves a lot of installing and figuring stuff out
[05:22] <garuhhh> bulmer: one site said, they should be there, if the firewall is accepting every traffic.
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> kelsin: i imagine it would.
[05:22] <albacker> kelsin, yeah i know that, but it needs a faster GraphicCard then mine.
[05:23] <garuhhh> is there another way to see if there's a firewall in the way?
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> garuhhh: what type of firewall do you have?
[05:23] <bulmer> garuhhh: what does the iptables rules say? this is part of your learning process
[05:23] <genii> hd420 Anyhow, hope one of the methods there works for you. I found it just after logging out of here so came back to try and catch you in time. Leaving again now LOL
[05:23] <kelsin> albacker: what do you have?
[05:23] <bulmer> garuhhh:  you didnt follow my suggestion of man iptables huh?
[05:24] <mike1o> Jowi, tnx
[05:24] <albacker> kelsin, intel graphics..
[05:24] <Priest-of-Psi> what is vino?
[05:24] <garuhhh> bulmer: yes, thank you for guiding me... Chain INPUT (policy Accept), chain FORWARD (policy accept), Chain Output (Policy Accept), and under them this appears: target     prot opt source      destination...
[05:24] <kelsin> albacker: I run compiz on my laptop with an intell 85565 (or soemthing like that card) just fine, it's a 1.6 pentium M
[05:25] <kelsin> bulmer: in other words: no ;-)
[05:25] <bulmer> hehehe
[05:25] <Owen_> Can anyone please help me. I have created a 5Gb unassigned partition on my harddrive using windows, but ubuntu cannot find my harddrive to install onto?
[05:25] <hd420> it seems to have worked
[05:25] <garuhhh> indygunfreak: i don't know really, i've been following a number of tutorials last night, and can't really remember, what i typed! (dumb me... :(  )
[05:25] <bulmer> garuhh those rules should be empty..nada
[05:25] <garuhhh> bulmer: how do i remove those?
[05:25] <kelsin> albacker: using the i810 xorg driver
[05:26] <albacker> kelsin, im using that too
[05:26] <albacker> kelsin, compiz froze once in here..
[05:26] <chris2316> we talking bout beryl?
[05:26] <garuhhh> bulmer: someone told me to make use of iptables-F, but it doesn't do a thing :(
[05:26] <bulmer> garuhhh: remove what? iptables is not removable, its part of the kernel
[05:26] <albacker> kelsin, i dont like a lot of eye candies tho
[05:26] <bulmer> garuhhh: one more time, man iptables
[05:26] <garuhhh> bulmer: remove the polices? how?
[05:26] <Laibsch> Hi, I just read about the wordpress security problems.  I run edgy, wordpress is at version 2.0.4-2. Do I need to update or is that version uncompromised?  It is still the latest version in edgy.
[05:26] <Zoffix> Hi, I just had a power failure and now when I try to start either xchat or xchat-gnome they just freeze, I tried to reinstall them already (by removing completely first and then installing again) and they still freeze. What should I do? Are there some checks that I should run?
[05:26] <non1> hi is there any solution for this problem? i searched over 2 hours in the internet but didn't found anything usefull.. pls help http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4006
[05:26] <kelsin> albacker: well compiz and beryl are both alpha, but it's the only wayt to get true transparency, you can run one of them with all plugins off except the transprency ones
[05:27] <cables> Zoffix, try removing the configuration files in ~/.xchat and ~/.xchat-gnome
[05:27] <MKR> zoffix: that specific one doesn't affect your WP, but your version is so old that I could list about 30 security patches since its release
[05:27] <kelsin> non1: for actual beryl support or help there is a #ubuntu-effects room that will help you
[05:27] <MKR> wait, not Zoffix
[05:27] <MKR> whoever asked about wordpress
[05:27] <non1> kelsin: thx
[05:27] <albacker> kelsin, id like to try that.
[05:27] <albacker> is there any step-by-step and howToo ?
[05:28] <TooR4u> how to record 'rstp' protocol with terminal clint..?
[05:28] <chris2316> does anyone have a  high pitched beeping problem with left channel speaker(laptop)
[05:28] <IndyGunFreak> albacker: step by step for what/
[05:29] <albacker> IndyGunFreak, kelsin told me about compiz and beryl. and i asked if theres any tuto that has a step by step tuto
[05:29] <TooR4u> how to record 'rstp' protocol with terminal clint..?
[05:30] <KratoS__> hi, how to join the italian chan? ^^
[05:30] <TooR4u> i have recorded mimms through mimms .
[05:30] <TooR4u> Now how to capture rstp protocol?
[05:30] <AMD-> is it possible to install grub on a cd
[05:30] <garuhhh> bulmer: i'm trying to delete a chain, a using sudo iptables -X INPUT, it gives INVALID ARGUMENT.... how does that work?
[05:30] <TooR4u> i mean streaming video?
[05:30] <sacater> does anyone know where i can get a static IP for a desktop/server for free
[05:30] <TooR4u> how to capture rstp streaming video
[05:30] <Cc2iscooL> I've got a unique(?) problem. My touchpad on my laptop works perfectly when I boot the computer, but after going into hibernate mode (and then returning from it) the mouse wheel function of the touchpad no longer functions. If I reboot the machine it works properly again...does anyone know why this might be occuring?
[05:31] <albacker> what's the difference between compiz and beryl ?
[05:31] <bulmer> garuhhh:  iptables -F  flushes all i believe
[05:31] <TooR4u> how to do that?
[05:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Im having some trouble setting the MySQL password when following the ubuntuguide, anyone here who can help?
[05:31] <bulmer> garuhh im off now..laters
[05:31] <garuhhh> bulmer: yes i did that... doesn't work
[05:31] <TooR4u> can any one tell me....
[05:31] <SpaceBass> anyone know a good commandline client with rss?
[05:31] <kelsin> albacker: beryl is a fork of compiz. I feel it's buggier, but has more features
[05:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root -p password your-new-password
[05:31] <garuhhh> bulmer: everything in the rule says ACCEPT, so is there something wrong still?
[05:31] <posingaspopular> !it | KratoS__
[05:31] <ubotu> KratoS__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:32] <kelsin> SpaceBass: I was recently exploring raggle and snowsnews, I didn't settle on either, but maybe you'll like them :)
[05:32] <mike1o> Jowi, tnx i'll let u know
[05:32] <chris2316> sacater, you tried http://www.madasafish.com/features/static-ip.asp
[05:32] <AMD-> grub on cd ?? is it possible
[05:32] <KratoS__> thanks posingaspopular
[05:32] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> running this, with appropriate settings, it cant connect to the host!
[05:32] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> !mysql
[05:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:32] <teardrop> plz i need help to configure mi wireless any can help me pzl
[05:32] <albacker> kelsin, ill go for compiz tho
[05:32] <sacater> chris2316: not yet, thanks :D
[05:32] <SpaceBass> kelsin, are those both just rss aggragators?
[05:32] <PriceChild> UbuntuN00B_HBG, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP has a good waklthrough for the basics of mysql
[05:33] <ctothej> hi all. I'm looking to sync to the Audiobooks section of the ipod 5.5G. I thought it would just be a smart playlist looking for Genre tags (i labeled my audiobooks "Audiobook" as the genre). How can i get it to recognize certain mp3s as audiobooks? btw im using amarok for syncing.
[05:33] <Zoffix> cables: thanks, that did it :P
[05:33] <kelsin> SpaceBass: yes
[05:33] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> PriceChild: very nice, ill have a look! thanks!
[05:33] <teardrop> who know anything of wireless
[05:33] <teardrop> i need help
[05:33] <PriceChild> teardrop, ask your question
[05:33] <KratoS__> thanks ubotu
[05:33] <kelsin> albacker: I did it the other day by just installing the compiz package "sudo aptitude install compiz" then replacing metacity with compiz: "compiz --replace"
[05:33] <posingaspopular> !wireless
[05:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:33] <PriceChild> KratoS__, ubotu is a bot ;)
[05:33] <SpaceBass> kelsin, im looking for a bittorrent client with rss
[05:33] <KratoS__> LoL
[05:34] <kelsin> albacker: make sure you have direct rendering first: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[05:34] <teardrop> sorri im chilean
[05:34] <KratoS__> scuse me XD
[05:34] <kelsin> SpaceBass: oh sorry, I must have misread your question
[05:34] <Breetai> Hi all, I have a latop that also has Vista on it. I have ntfs-3g. The NTFS partition mounts just fine, but when I browse to the Users folder, the only subfolder I see are "Default" and "Public", any idea how to get to my user folders?
[05:34] <teardrop> i dont recived help in spanish channels XD
[05:34] <KratoS__> i'm a newbie XD
[05:34] <teardrop> i need know what put on dns
[05:34] <teardrop> i dont have any number here
[05:35] <PriceChild> teardrop, Probably the ip of the access point you're connecting to
[05:35] <teardrop> what ip
[05:35] <teardrop> of the router or of my computer
[05:35] <albacker> kelsin, ever heard about direct renderin showing on and off if i kill X ? i have it now, if i contrl alt backspace.. and start again i dont have it anymore.. and after altctrl backsp again, i re-have it :S !? any idea ?
[05:36] <PriceChild> teardrop, router
[05:36] <kelsin> albacker: no not at all :-(
[05:36] <garuhhh> bulmer: you really think its a firewall? how do get to see any other firewall running?
[05:36] <teardrop> in server dns i put the ip and then
[05:36] <albacker> kelsin, what about compiz and xgl with intel graphics ?
[05:36] <teardrop> i donnt need any more to configure my wireless?
[05:37] <chris2316> i had that ctrl alt backspace issue
[05:37] <kelsin> albacker: what do you mean? just install the compiz package and go, I wouldn't worry about XGL, no need
[05:37] <soweto76> teardrop, your isp should have dns ip listed on its website
[05:37] <kelsin> albacker: if "compiz --replace" says you dn't have the composite extention then you need to add the composite extention to your xorg.conf
[05:38] <soweto76> teardrop, do you have a static ip address for you ubuntu computer?
[05:38] <albacker> kelsin, run compiz without XGL at all ?
[05:38] <teardrop> i dunno
[05:38] <teardrop> i got a laptop
[05:38] <Thug-N-Me> is there any package that allows me to connect my nokia n73 phone to ubuntu box and copy tracks on it ?
[05:38] <kelsin> albacker: yes, the i810 driver has the right opengl extention and xorg past 6.8 has the composite extention, you don't need XGL
[05:38] <teardrop> but i think yes
[05:38] <PriceChild> albacker, kelsin compositing support in #ubuntu-effects please.
[05:39] <soweto76> teardrop, how are you connected to the internet?
[05:39] <albacker> kelsin, can i apply compiz in fluxbox or jsut gnome ?!
[05:40] <teardrop> I GOT INTERNET FOR CABLE
[05:40] <teardrop> i got a inalambric router
[05:40] <teardrop> and that is
[05:40] <kelsin> albacker: talk in #ubuntu-effects now
[05:40] <soweto76> teardrop, If you have a wireless router, it should be able to do DHCP and automatically configure the DNS.
[05:41] <teardrop> yeah but i dont have any numer on dns
[05:41] <muffle> nickserv identify zazaza
[05:41] <muffle> damn
[05:41] <teardrop> i read in forums  a numer 192.i dont remeber
[05:41] <soweto76> teardrop, do you need to have a static ip or are you using DHCP, the automatic method
[05:41] <ramza3> is totem movie player based on xine
[05:42] <kelsin> ramza3: it can be based on xine ir gstreamer, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer (I think) are the packages
[05:42] <garuhhh> how do i know the settings of firestarter?
[05:42] <teardrop> ANY REMEMBER A NUMER 192.... OF DNS?
[05:42] <chris2316> is there a more advanced sound manager available for  ubuntu? id like to control each speaker seperately (laptop)
[05:43] <kbrooks> !caps | teardrop
[05:43] <ubotu> teardrop: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:43] <soweto76> teardrop, do you need to have a static ip or are you using DHCP, the automatic method
[05:43] <mike1o> Jowi, it worked!!
[05:43] <mike1o> Jowi, where are u from^?
[05:43] <kelsin> chris2316: you mean just control volume of each speaker or send different stuff to each speaker?
[05:43] <teardrop> sudo pppoeconf???
[05:43] <teardrop> whats taht
[05:44] <Thug-N-Me> is there any package that allows me to connect my nokia n73 phone to ubuntu box and copy tracks on it ?
[05:44] <chris2316> kelsin, im having a high pitchd sound come from my left channel, and as a temporary solution id like to switch it off,
[05:44] <lilrayray> hi all, I have just uninstalled beryl, and now my gnome themes dont have any affect on the taskbars
[05:44] <Trentster> hey all, any1 here familiar with ntop, and can help me, I have a problem that ntop resets the statistics every time the pc reboots, I want to be able to keep data for months and be able to tell for eg: on a certain day a certain ip used so much bandwidth...
[05:44] <chris2316> until i learn kernel configuring and all that anyway
[05:44] <kelsin> chris2316: the alsamixer program can let you lower the volume of one side all of the way
[05:45] <mike1o> Jowi, i used the pcl 6 generic driver
[05:45] <mike1o> Jowi, are u there??
[05:45] <chris2316> kelsin, thanks alot!
[05:45] <soweto76> teardrop, It seems that you cannot answer questions that would help me to understand you setup.  Sorry I could not help you.
[05:45] <errpast-wc> Hi, I'm having two printer issues.  CUPS and formatting.  I've put a brief description of the issue, and some command output on a pastebin. Does anyone have 5 miutes to take a look? http://pastebin.ca/389259
[05:45] <errpast-wc> thanks
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone use gtweakui?
[05:46] <jeanre> hmmm
[05:46] <jeanre> where is the gtk themes in the repo?
[05:46] <sacater> chris2316: nope, you need to have some kind of an account
[05:46] <sacater> anyone know where I can get a static IP for free
[05:46] <jzubillaga> maldiitos
[05:47] <gues1> hi there anyb into dvd authoring? by probl: m2v(3.9GB)+ac3(o.2GB)=4.5GB normal?
[05:47] <jzubillaga> dejen d hablar asi co;o
[05:47] <jeanre> I am looking for a nice white milk theme?
[05:47] <sacater> jeanre: try gnomelooks.org or xfcelooks.org
[05:47] <billy> Greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[05:47] <jeanre> yeah
[05:47] <jzubillaga> seveas fuuuck you.. im fuck it you mother
[05:48] <billy> I resized my windows partition using gparted and now windows will not boot.  Anyone ever had this problem, or have any insight into a solution?
[05:48] <gues1> hi there anyb into dvd authoring? my probl: m2v(3.9GB)+ac3(o.2GB)=4.5GB normal?
[05:49] <gues1> also: dvd+mp2 wont play in home player
[05:49] <errpast-wc> billy: this might help http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx?mfr=true
[05:49] <Thug-N-Me> is there any package that allow me to transfer data from pc to nokia phone ?
[05:49] <billy> errpast-wc : thank you.
[05:50] <errpast-wc> billy: you bet
[05:50] <jeanre> is rezlooks not in the repos?
[05:50] <PriceChild> !rezlooks
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rezlooks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <PriceChild> Nope sorry jeanre ^
[05:52] <Cc2iscooL_> I've got a unique(?) problem. My touchpad on my laptop works perfectly when I boot the computer, but after going into hibernate mode (and then returning from it) the mouse wheel function of the touchpad no longer functions. If I reboot the machine it works properly again...does anyone know why this might be occuring? I think it might be reverting to a PS2 mouse on boot from hibernate, but as I'm new to Ubuntu I really can
[05:52] <Cc2iscooL_> 't be positive.
[05:52] <grout> i have a laptop without a cd-rom with with a floppy, can i install ubuntu from the internet with a bootdisk somehow?
[05:52] <jeanre> hmmm
[05:52] <jeanre> I got the rezlloks theme pack
[05:53] <jeanre> but they dont display correctly
[05:53] <errpast-wc> I'm having printing issues.  I can access CUPS web gui  via localhost:631.  But CUPS won't let me perform a number of actions.
[05:54] <Sus> hi
[05:54] <errpast-wc> I get output from the printer, but the format is incorrrect.  bottom margins are being ignored.
[05:54] <wolle_> hi
[05:54] <posingaspopular> !grub | grout
[05:54] <ubotu> grout: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:54] <wolle_> someone could me help?
[05:55] <errpast-wc> I'm 99% sure I've got a CUPS permiossions issue, but have tried and failed to solve
[05:55] <posingaspopular> !ask | wolle_
[05:55] <ubotu> wolle_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:55] <Sus> how can I setup my wifi
[05:55] <errpast-wc> wolle_: go ahead
[05:55] <wolle_> i want to play back my backup home.tgz .. but i dont know how..
[05:55] <wolle_> thx :D
[05:55] <Maul555> my xserver refuses to start after a vid driver adjustment.  How can i get it to come up again from the command line?
[05:56] <errpast-wc> wolle_: do you mean you want to uncompress and unzip.  try tar xvfz <filename>
[05:56] <posingaspopular> !wireless | Sus
[05:56] <ubotu> Sus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:56] <Sus> thxthx
[05:56] <wolle_> yes i want to unpack this home file
[05:56] <faceface> hi
[05:57] <errpast-wc> wolle_: did that tar -xvfz <filename> work?
[05:58] <Maul555> my xserver refuses to start after a vid driver adjustment.  How can i get it to come up again from the command line?
[05:58] <jeanre> ok what do I need to make rezlooks work here?
[05:58] <Sus> the message:wireless even not found
[05:58] <wolle_> no it doesnt work errpast-wc
[05:59] <TheGateKeeper> dvd+rw-tools is a package that has appeared for upgrade, but is dependent on genisoimage, but that is not in the repos, what is going on (I am using dapper)?
[06:00] <Askar> can i downgrade to edgy?
[06:00] <errpast-wc> wolle_: try this - gunzip < file.tgz    | tar xvf
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> TheGateKeeper: have you considered just using Gnomebaker or K3b?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> Askar: its highly unlikely
[06:00] <Askar>  IndyGunFreak: okok
[06:01] <wolle_> @ errpast-wc: where does it unzip my file.. in the same directory?
[06:01] <Maul555> askar:  isnt edgy the current latest release?
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> Askar: best thing to do would probably be to backup all your files, and do a fresh install of Edgy
[06:01] <Maul555> my xserver refuses to start after a vid driver adjustment.  How can i get it to come up again from the command line?
[06:01] <Askar> Maul555: yes itsthe latest stable release
[06:01] <errpast-wc> wolle_: yes, I think it will creat a directory with the filename, and unzip everything below that directory
[06:01] <Maul555> askar: how can you downgrade to the latest????????!!!!!!!
[06:02] <posingaspopular> Maul555: downgrade to the latest...?
 can i downgrade to edgy?
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> Maul555: Feisty is still in testing, why anyone who's not extremely familiar with Linux woudl even dream of upgrading to it, is beyon dme.
[06:02] <Askar> Maul555: downgrade from unstable feisty (latest) to stable edgy
[06:02] <snerfu> I can't seem to find freeciv in the package managers. is it called something else in universe somewhere?
[06:02] <Maul555> askar:  oh... oky
[06:02] <chris2077> i think unstable means different things to different people
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: well, unstable pretty much has one definition.
[06:03] <Maul555> can anybody help me with a dapper xserver problem?
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> so it can mean whatever they want it to mean, fact is, its unstable.
[06:03] <TheGateKeeper> IndyGunFreak: I use k3b (in kubuntu) this is NOT a package that I have deliberately installed
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> TheGateKeeper: what isn't?  K3b? or the one you're having a problem with.
[06:04] <billy> erpast-wc : thank you for that link.  attempting to boot windows leads me to a "invalid partition table" error.  I can still boot Ubuntu though.  I understand this isn't a 'doze oriented forum.  But if you can help, or just point me in the right direction, that'd be neato-bzeato.
[06:04] <chris2077> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Resource busy or not available.
[06:04] <TheGateKeeper> IndyGunFreak: the one that I having a problem with :-)
[06:04] <chris2077> can anyone help me out with that error message|?
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> TheGateKeeper: and whats it called again?
[06:05] <Maul555> billy:  the problem may be in the way you installed ubuntu after windows was installed.  prehaps ubuntu exercised too much artistic license on your hdd...
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> TheGateKeeper: so i guess my question is, why not just use K3b in place of the one you're having a prob with
[06:06] <TheGateKeeper> IndyGunFreak: dvd+rw-tools is the package that has appeared for upgrade, which has this dependency on genisoimage (which is not in the repos)
[06:06] <TooR4u> how to capture rstp streaming video?
[06:06] <Maul555> my xserver refuses to start after a vid driver adjustment.  How can i get it to come up again from the command line?
[06:06] <vorbote> TheGateKeeper: using the backport repositories?
[06:07] <billy> Maul555 : possibly.  about your problem, mine has done that.  just change it back.  It may be that you need to wait until a kernel update, perhaps.
[06:07] <GenNMX> How do I restart identd?
[06:07] <faceface> ach... I am trying to find information about gtkwifi... as a replacement for 'network manager' because the latter stopped working on my laptop
[06:07] <GenNMX> Excuse me. How do I restart inetd?
[06:07] <Maul555> billy: yeah, about that, ummm... how do i change it back?
[06:07] <TooR4u> how to capture rstp streaming video?
[06:07] <faceface> any hints on how to get network manager working on ubuntu?
[06:07] <vorbote> GenNMX: sudo kill -HUP inetd usually does the trick
[06:07] <billy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <Maul555> YES, THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!
[06:08] <Maul555> i need to write that down again..
[06:08] <faceface> billy, that for me?
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> vorbote: nope I don't think so, in #kubuntu they say it is feisty repos but not the others
[06:08] <billy> Maul555: yeah.  I have a little Linux notebook that I write down EVERYTHING in.  faceface:  no.  that was for Maul555.
[06:08] <billy> Maul555: you'll need more script after you get done.
[06:08] <GenNMX> vorbote: What does HUP do? Tell it to restart itself?
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> billy:  so sudo dpkg will downgrade Feisty to Edgy
[06:08] <Maul555> billy: you usualy do, lol...
[06:09] <chris2077> does feisty have a 3d release?
[06:09] <faceface> sorry billy  - I tried re-installing network manager cleanly several times... it never fixes the problem
[06:09] <chuckf> billy, I found using a wiki is better to search through
[06:09] <jrib> chris2077: 3d release?  What does that mean?
[06:09] <TooR4u> how to capture rstp streaming video?
[06:09] <billy> Maul555: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then /etc/init.d gdm start
[06:09] <chris2077> sorry, 3d desktop
[06:09] <vorbote> TheGateKeeper: that's the point. The only way you'd get a dependency to genisoimage into Dapper would be if you were using a fiesty (or a Debian Testing/Unstable) backport.
[06:09] <jrib> TooR4u: mplayer -dumpstream
[06:09] <faceface> TooR4u, man mplayer :)
[06:09] <lilrayray> hi all, I have just installed compiz and when I run it, the bars above all of my windows disappear! how do I solve this?
[06:09] <vorbote> s/fiesty/feisty/
[06:10] <fleas> lilrayray: i also had that problem O.o didnt know what to do
[06:10] <faceface> where is gtkwifi?
[06:10] <chris2077> jrib, i was wondering whether ubunty will pump out a beryl release or something
[06:10] <fleas> chris2077 : would be nice if they did
[06:11] <chuckf> chris2077, word is the Feisty will have compiz availible
[06:11] <lilrayray> fleas, that's too bad, so far, except for that, it works a lot better then beryl
[06:11] <snerfu> anyone know how to easily get freeciv? 2.0.9 needs sdl 1.4.
[06:11] <finsta> Hello people, I have an issue at hand
[06:11] <jrib> chris2077: not ernabled by default, but there is a setting that lets you enable 3d effects by checking a checkbox and pressing ok.  You still need to install the 3d drivers on your own though
[06:11] <PriceChild> chuckf, chris2077 feisty includes compiz installed (not enabled) by default
[06:11] <OuZo> hi all, i think i messed up a LVM hard drive, can anyone confirm?
[06:11] <blind> Having a problem scanning with my HP C3180 All-in-one unit. I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286105  -- but xsane still doesn't recognize it. what else can i do?
[06:12] <finsta> I have a 160GB HD that won't mount now...On startup, it errors on fsck now: "fsck.ext2: Unable to resolve 'UUID=40e3c6c8-b0be-4f23-a960-07cf419ce7bb'"
[06:12] <Maul555> should i use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[06:12] <chris2077> jrib, thanks for the info, makes sense i guess
[06:12] <GenNMX> Grrr, I'm still not getting an identd response
[06:12] <Tamale> interesting problem.  utorrent through wine has been working fine for me for a while.. and still technically is.. but it's stuck in the system tray.  I can't get it to show up anymore.. every time i start it it's already minimized
[06:12] <faceface> blind, you scan as root
[06:12] <blind> faceface: really?
[06:12] <peeps> anyone here do C or C++ programming?  just curious what IDE I should use
[06:12] <ramza3> what is a good text editor, that I can replace gedit with.  Something fast
[06:12] <gxr1> _______hi    how does one install ubuntu on a system already runnning win xp
[06:12] <GenNMX> Has anyone succesfully setup identd on their system? I'm using nullidentd, but I'm open to suggestions.
[06:12] <ramza3> not vim
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> vorbote: hmmm just checked & it seems I do have the ubuntu backports sources enabled, but how do I solve this problem?
[06:12] <faceface> blind, Sorry, that was supposed to be a question, but yeah - try it
[06:12] <lilrayray> peeps: give code::blocks a try
[06:12] <gxr1> i booted from the live CD
[06:13] <peeps> ramza3, you try nano?
[06:13] <gxr1> installed it ... but i saw no grub option
[06:13] <blind> faceface: it says scanning as root is dangerous and to probably not do it :P
[06:13] <zpertee> how can I recover lost root password
[06:13] <ramza3> peeps: is that xwindows based
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> gxr1: are you sure it installed?
[06:13] <peeps> ramza3, no
[06:13] <finsta> Anybody?
[06:13] <jeanre> omg
[06:13] <TheGateKeeper> vorbote: atm I am using dapper & have not upgraded
[06:13] <jrib> zpertee: did you ever set a root password?  uBUNTU DOESN'T HAVE ONE BY DEFAULT
[06:13] <peeps> ramza3, what is wrong with gedit?
[06:13] <billy> Maul555: I've always found this handy. --> http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[06:13] <jeanre> can someone help me fix my themes?
[06:13] <faceface> blind, don't know... I would try it
[06:13] <blind> faceface: tried. didn't work
[06:13] <faceface> oh
[06:14] <zpertee> jrib: I may not have. can't remember for sure.  how can I set one up?
[06:14] <blind> faceface: xsane just won't recognize my scanner, however sane-find-scanner shows it.
[06:14] <Maul555> billy: on the x.org server modules that should be loaded by default screen,   can i just select everything???
[06:14] <jrib> zpertee: you don't need one.  Do you know about sudo?
[06:14] <peeps> thx lirayray, i will try it
[06:14] <ramza3> peeps; just one gripe, if I have gedit open and then I open the same file; I get that error "File already open, blah, blah"  why cant it just revert me to the file that is already open
[06:14] <vorbote> The solution is to apt-pin it. I'm not sure you can use adept to do it with an GUI (syanptic can). Else you'll have to either disable the backports, or edit your apt-pinning config files in /etc/apt
[06:14] <faceface> don't knwo
[06:14] <finsta> Can anybody help me?
[06:14] <mike1o> Jowi, it worked?
[06:15] <PriceChild> finsta, ask :)
[06:15] <zpertee> jrib: won't I need a password when I use sudo though?
[06:15] <finsta> I have a 160GB HD that won't mount now...On startup, it errors on fsck now: "fsck.ext2: Unable to resolve 'UUID=40e3c6c8-b0be-4f23-a960-07cf419ce7bb'"
[06:15] <jrib> zpertee: yep, it's your user's password
[06:15] <jrib> !sudo | zpertee
[06:15] <ubotu> zpertee: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> !grub
[06:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:15] <zpertee> jrib: ok
[06:15] <PriceChild> finsta, by any chance did you format it or something... which is when it stopped mounting?
[06:15] <peeps> ramza3, well you know there is a revert command in the File menu
[06:15] <finsta> Nope
[06:16] <finsta> It was working perfectly fine
[06:16] <blind> Having a problem scanning with my HP C3180 All-in-one unit. I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286105  -- but xsane still doesn't recognize it. hat else can i do?
[06:16] <Maul555> anyone: on the x.org server modules that should be loaded by default screen,   can i just select everything???
[06:16] <dmg> the mail message http://www.mail-archive.com/tinycc-devel@nongnu.org/msg00679.html addresses both 'Undecided/Unconfirmed' bugs against 'tcc'
[06:16] <vorbote> I've never done it myself by hand, but there is this nice tutorial on apt-pinning here: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[06:16] <finsta> The hard drive itself is fine, it doesn't produce any SMART errors or anything
[06:16] <blind> s/hat/what
[06:16] <PriceChild> finsta, you could try editing /etc/fstab to change the UUID into a standard /dev/hda1 etc.
[06:16] <billy> Maul555: i usually do.
[06:16] <finsta> Hmm...I'll try that, I'll be back in a bit
[06:16] <ramza3> peeps: no I mean, gedit trys to have the same file open in 2 tabs, if I try to bring up the same file again; why cant it just keep the same tab
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> vorbote: thanx - that was my next question hehe
[06:17] <typedestereo> will ubuntu's clock automatically update for dst tomorrow?
[06:17] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. what is the best software for desktop to do list?
[06:17] <Maul555> billy: ok, i didnt know if it would cause problems or soemthing.  i was thinking some came unchecked by default for a reason...
[06:17] <posingaspopular> typedestereo: it should, i have no reason to think otherwise
[06:17] <KeeNaF> i mean .. da todo list will be displayed on desktop
[06:17] <jrib> KeeNaF: like a todo list?
[06:17] <typedestereo> thanks popular.
[06:17] <peeps> ramza3, I just tried to reopen a file, but I do not get any "file already open" message.  it just brings me to the existing tab
[06:17] <finsta> I'll be back
[06:17] <jrib> KeeNaF: I like using tomboy for that
[06:17] <vox754> typedestereo, there was a recent update regarding that if you noticed.
[06:17] <typedestereo> I didn't heh
[06:18] <KeeNaF> jrib .. something like rainlendar ... but .. different package .. dont 1 rainlendar
[06:18] <KeeNaF> :d
[06:18] <cratel> my /boot partition only holds 50M and it is full. What can I safely delete in there? I have several versions of vmlinuz, System.map. initrd.img, abi
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> typedestereo:  open a terminal, and type this..     zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep isdst=1 | grep 2007
[06:18] <peeps> ramza3, what version of Ubuntu and gedit do you have?
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> if you get an output of /etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 CDT
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> /etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 CDT
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> isdst=1 gmtoff=-18000
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> then you're ready
[06:18] <ramza3> peeps: 6.06 , 2.14
[06:18] <vox754> typedestereo, well I'm sure it is nothing. The "patch" said it fixed some time zones, but I'm pretty sure everything is correct.
[06:18] <jeanre> anyone know of a decent milk gtk theme?
[06:19] <typedestereo> right then
[06:19] <ikaruga> how do i split a large picture/PDF/etc so I can print it?
[06:19] <billy> Maul555:  it *could* be different for you.  It's never tripped anything up with me.
[06:19] <KeeNaF> jrib .. once i type sudo apt-get install tomboy .. it says that my laptop already has newest version .. but i couldnt find da tomboy
[06:19] <KeeNaF> :(
[06:19] <zpertee> what do I have to ad to /etc/network/interace to make my ubuntu server stup for dhcp?
[06:19] <peeps> ramza3, hmm well it seems to work ok in edgy, which has gedit 2.16.1.  maybe this functionality was changed between those versions
[06:19] <jrib> KeeNaF: it's a panel applet
[06:19] <ramza3> peeps: did you click on the open option or double click on the file for example, on the desktop
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> typedestereo: did you try that command?
[06:19] <peeps> open option
[06:19] <jrib> ikaruga: you could use 'rasterbator' (google)
[06:20] <ramza3> peeps: try double clicking on a file
[06:20] <peeps> ok just tried that, same result, works fine
[06:20] <peeps> well, it brings up the existing tab, but does not revert it, if that is what you want
[06:20] <finsta> PriceChild: No long
[06:20] <finsta> -luck
[06:21] <finsta> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdd1
[06:21] <finsta> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[06:21] <finsta> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[06:21] <finsta> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[06:21] <finsta> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[06:21] <finsta>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[06:21] <finsta> Which I tried
[06:21] <peeps> ramza3, maybe you can try the latest version directly from gedit if you don't want to upgrade fully to edgy just for a text editor
[06:21] <peeps> http://www.gnome.org/projects/gedit/
[06:21] <zpertee> jrib: do you know how to reload network settings without rebooting
[06:22] <ikaruga> jrib: dude, that was a windows program
[06:22] <ramza3> peeps: ok, thanks
[06:22] <TooR4u> finsta,u r file system is correpted ..... u have to do 'fsck ' manually
[06:22] <vox754> zpertee, usually the network need something like "auto eth0" to restart try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[06:22] <jrib> zpertee: no, not really...  sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart   maybe
[06:22] <finsta> Meaning?
[06:23] <jrib> ikaruga: it's a web application
[06:23] <Maul555> woot, im back in the gui, with the nvidia drivers... now lets see if i can keep my screensavers from freezing stuff up...
[06:23] <jrib> (too)
[06:23] <TooR4u> finsta, u r hdd have some bad sectors ...(Inodes)
[06:23] <zpertee> jrib: it worked
[06:23] <TooR4u> so u have to do u 'fsck' manually (Like dfragmentation)
[06:24] <ikaruga> jrib: ahh.... it was.... not it's a program... thanks anyway.. will try wine
[06:24] <c0nka> can any1 help
[06:24] <vox754> zpertee, I think all startup scripts can be found at "/etc/init.d/" which you can "start, stop, restart" and others.
[06:24] <finsta> That I know
[06:24] <c0nka> how do you setup beryl
[06:24] <TooR4u> then ...
[06:24] <finsta> But when I run fsck, it errors out
[06:24] <TooR4u> do it
[06:24] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone here run yahoo on gaim?
[06:24] <dick> hello all
[06:24] <finsta> Then on top of that, it prompts me to try another superblock
[06:24] <finsta> Still errors out
[06:24] <c0nka> how do you setup beryl
[06:25] <zpertee> vox754: ok thanks for the tip.  it's a pain to have to restart ubuntu all the time
[06:25] <jrib> ikaruga: http://screamz.madoka.be/wiki/index.php/Rasterbator_with_mono if you really want it... I know there are some clones but I don't know of a native linux one off the top of my head
[06:25] <PriceChild> c0nka, #ubuntu-effects please
[06:25] <dick> I was wondering, does anyone here us a mac? I was thinking about buying one, but does unbuntu work smoothly on macs?
[06:25] <vox754> zpertee, most of the time you don't need to, you just restart services, X, daemons, and stuff.
[06:25] <TooR4u> finsta, have u tried      fsck /dev/hda1 ..?
[06:26] <finsta> Yes
[06:26] <finsta> And fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/hdd1
[06:26] <cratel> dick: I run Dapper on an Intel MacBook and MacBookPro
[06:26] <finsta> It's hdd1 by the way
[06:26] <zpertee> vox754: right now that I know how to do this from the /etc/init.d folder
[06:26] <ikaruga> jrb: wow, thanks
[06:26] <KeeNaF> jrib, how to access the panel applet?
[06:26] <jrib> KeeNaF: right click on panel > add to panel
[06:26] <PriceChild> dick, In short... ubuntu works on macs fine. Long: Ubuntu supports ppc up until Edgy. From Feisty it will only be community supported. However intel macs will still be supoprted as i386.
[06:26] <KeeNaF> o
[06:26] <KeeNaF> ok
[06:26] <KeeNaF> tq
[06:26] <Maul555> billy: thx again...  whatever i did seems to have fixed my original problem too...
[06:26] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows an image viewer which uses the arrow keys? like in winxp?
[06:27] <c0nka> how do you setup beryl
[06:27] <PriceChild> c0nka, #ubuntu-effects for beryl
[06:27] <c0nka> ok cheers
[06:27] <dick> thanks
[06:27] <adminx> c0nka check out http://www.beryl-project.org/
[06:27] <adminx> c0nka then click on wiki for directions
[06:27] <billy> Maul555: sweet.  Did you check out that Debian Reference Card?  It comes in handy.
[06:27] <bruenig> !info gqview
[06:27] <TooR4u> what is the out put u got ..?
[06:27] <ubotu> gqview: A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 707 kB, installed size 2312 kB
[06:27] <finsta> e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdd1
[06:27] <finsta> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[06:27] <finsta> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[06:27] <finsta> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[06:27] <finsta> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[06:27] <finsta>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[06:27] <Maul555> billy: ive got it up in my browser, but i havent read it yet...
[06:27] <jrib> !paste | finsta
[06:27] <ubotu> finsta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:28] <Zaggynl> gthumbviewer does the job but no way to setup keys, ctrl+pageup/down for switching between images is annoying
[06:28] <finsta> Alright, thanks
[06:28] <jrib> ikaruga: ah the web app is here: http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/wizard.gas?Phase=1
[06:28] <devilsreject> what up all
[06:28] <billy> Maul555: Print it out and fold it up like the directions say.  Trust me: you'll be referencing it soon, especially when you're dumped to a command line. :)
[06:28] <bruenig> !howdy | devilsreject
[06:28] <faceface> how do I clear my 'printer configuration' ? I can't get rid of the printer notification icon telling me that the non existent printer is not accessible
[06:28] <ubotu> devilsreject: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:29] <devilsreject> im tryin to do a video screenshot in ubuntu is this possible?
[06:29] <Maul555> how do i install firefox 2 in ubuntu 6.06... i need to replace my firefox 1.5, but the last time i tried, i ran into installation issues..
[06:29] <bruenig> devilsreject, print screen
[06:29] <finsta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9675/
[06:29] <devilsreject> will it do a video?
[06:29] <devilsreject> or just a pic
[06:29] <finsta> Here, TooR4u
[06:29] <jrib> !firefox | Maul555
[06:29] <ubotu> Maul555: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:29] <finsta> PriceChild, you have any idea?
[06:29] <bruenig> devilsreject, it will take a screenshot of whatever frame is showing
[06:29] <PriceChild> Maul555, Firstly... why do you want to replace it?
[06:29] <PriceChild> finsta, No sorry :(
[06:29] <chris2077> devils reject, have you got beryl? thatl do it for you
[06:29] <TooR4u> finsta, uhh ....
[06:29] <vox754> devilsreject, I'm sure you've seen videos in Youtube, they even have tutorials there, go check.
[06:29] <herbal> good afternoon all
[06:30] <Maul555> PriceChild: because i like firefox 2 a lot more than 1.5
[06:30] <bruenig> oh he means screencast, not screenshot
[06:30] <devilsreject> chris2077 --- lol yeah thats what im tryin to do make one for youtube of my beryl
[06:30] <devilsreject> yeah
[06:30] <faceface> !howdy faceface
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howdy faceface - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <devilsreject> screencast sorry
[06:30] <PriceChild> Maul555, That's a statement not a reason ;)
[06:30] <spinray> does anyone get text not showing up on some windows when using compiz?
[06:30] <faceface> !howdy | faceface
[06:30] <Maul555> PriceChild:  nope, thats my reason...
[06:30] <finsta> I was going to try e2salvage but I can't get it to build
[06:30] <bruenig> Maul555, use one of the many scripts floating around to do it
[06:30] <PriceChild> spinray, #ubuntu-effects please
[06:30] <jrib> spinray: #ubuntu-effects
[06:31] <herbal> would anyone be willing to lend a hand with a sound issue?
[06:31] <jeanre> hmmm
[06:31] <Maul555> bruenig:  there are scripts floating around?
[06:31] <chris2077> herbal, im having sound problems also, whats  your issue?
[06:31] <devilsreject> nothing showing how to do a screencast
[06:31] <jeanre> how does one mout ntfs for normal users to read?
[06:32] <bruenig> Maul555, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/firefox
[06:32] <raven3x7> is there a way to force wine to fullscreen?
[06:32] <TooR4u> finsta, ohh
[06:32] <Maul555> thx, ill read it
[06:32] <zpertee> jrib: if I want to add packages do I really always have to use cd?
[06:32] <herbal> i have a mcp55 hd audio card built into the mb, ubuntu sees it as a alc883, durring playback its horribly choppy almost like it gets stuck in a loop
[06:32] <jrib> zpertee: no, disable it in your software repository preferences
[06:32] <mitsuhiko> hossa
[06:32] <adminx> anyone with success using sd carders on laptops in ubuntu
[06:32] <zpertee> jrib: ok
[06:32] <c0nka> wat is ubuntu
[06:33] <mitsuhiko> any developers with some spare time here?
[06:33] <herbal> im not sure which output is correct, the alsa mixer or the oss, etc
[06:33] <PriceChild> !ubuntu | c0nka
[06:33] <ubotu> c0nka: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:33] <chris2077> herbal, that sucks.
[06:33] <c0nka> ok thnx
[06:33] <c0nka> can you install anything on here
[06:33] <PriceChild> c0nka, pardon?
[06:34] <jeanre> how does one mout ntfs for normal users to read?
[06:34] <bruenig> c0nka, you can install anything linux compatible in ubuntu yes, your question is a bit confusing perhaps grammar problems or something else
[06:34] <Aarohi> can i ask a slackware-related question here guys?
[06:34] <Maul555> how can i find out exactly how fast my processor is running in "mhz" in the ubuntu gui?
[06:34] <c0nka> o ok thnx very much
[06:34] <adminx> I have a toshiba laptop with builtin carder, I would like for it to auto mount
[06:34] <bruenig> !offtopic
[06:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:34] <chris2077> slackware-hardcore lol
[06:34] <devilsreject> is there somethin in sypnatic package manager for screencasts???
[06:34] <zpertee> jrib: how do I disable it from the software repository preferences
[06:34] <Aarohi> bruenig: its still linux. anyway, where should i ask for help?
[06:35] <Aarohi> is there a channel here
[06:35] <bruenig> Aarohi, my guess is ##slackware would be a good place
[06:35] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - how do I recompile the kernel and ndiswrapper with the same GCC?
[06:35] <finsta> So, should I look for ext2 recovery progs now?
[06:35] <Aarohi> oh, okay
[06:35] <Aarohi> thank you
[06:35] <Maul555> how can i find out exactly how fast my processor is running in "mhz" in the ubuntu gui?
[06:35] <youser> anyone have any info on intel 965 chipset and SATA  hard drive and trying to install ubuntu???
[06:35] <cc77> how do I start azureus in sudo mode?
[06:35] <denis_on_ubuntu> wow so many people have questions lol
[06:35] <denis_on_ubuntu> :] 
[06:35] <mike1o> i have to do a fresh install on a new pc... do u recommend edgy or the latest feisty developer release?
[06:36] <nkayhan> nicks
[06:36] <jrib> zpertee: I'm not sure... it should just be an obvious checkbox in one of the tabs
[06:36] <c0nka> were can i learn ubuntu becouse this is my first time on a linux os
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> cc77:  just start a terminal and type azeurus you don't even need to be sudo.
[06:36] <raven3x7> youser i was under the impression that its not supported but i could be wrong
[06:36] <youser> yeah
[06:36] <zpertee> jrib: if I'm not using the gui I will have to do it a different way?
[06:36] <youser> it hangs on the ubuntu loading screen
[06:36] <Maul555> how can i find out exactly how fast my processor is running in "mhz" in the ubuntu gui?
[06:36] <jrib> zpertee: you can comment the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <PriceChild> c0nka, Start off by downloading the "desktop" cd and booting from it... it won't change your hard drive.
[06:37] <youser> this is the worst thing that could ever happen
[06:37] <bruenig> !repeat | Maul555
[06:37] <ubotu> Maul555: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:37] <youser> ubuntu is my baby
[06:37] <zpertee> jrib: ok that's what I'll do
[06:37] <cc77> IndyGunFreak, , is it azeurus or azureus? because if I type azureus, it says command not found and the applications list calls the app azureus
[06:37] <Maul555> ubotu:  you smell funny!
[06:37] <bruenig> Maul555, I don't use gnome anymore but I know there was some system monitor thing when I did, perhaps in system>administration
[06:37] <nkayhan> Is there a way to revert my keyboard shortcuts back to default?
[06:37] <MrFlibble_> Maul555: Not really a "GUI" thing, but you can open a terminal and run "cat /proc/cpuinfo".
[06:38] <cc77> IndyGunFreak, I have to be sudo as when doing its updates its complains about not write privil to a certain folder.
[06:38] <Maul555> bruenig: thx ill look
[06:38] <Maul555> MrFlibble_:  ill try that too
[06:38] <devilsreject> how do i do a screencast from beryl?
[06:38] <youser> is fedora core 5 or 6 anywhere near as customizable and cool adn ubuntu?
[06:38] <chris2077> bruenig, there is a system monitor in admin tools, but it doesnt display mhz
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> cc77: ok, then be sudo, but it shouldn't be necessary
[06:38] <PriceChild> devilsreject, recordmydesktop, istanbul, xvidcap ?
[06:38] <chris2077> only cpu usage
[06:38] <bruenig> chris2077, ok, as I said
[06:38] <nkayhan> I can't find the config file, and even if I did, I would have anything to paste into it
[06:38] <jeanre> hmmm
[06:38] <bruenig> no more gnome for me
[06:38] <finsta> PriceChild, any recommended recovery CDs to use?
[06:38] <jeanre> how can I see if Xorg is using 3d rendering
[06:39] <PriceChild> finsta, I don't know what the problem is so can't say sorry
[06:39] <bruenig> youser, I am sure it is just as customizable
[06:39] <devilsreject> PriceChild == where do i get any of those ill check synaptic
[06:39] <raven3x7> youser, i think the driver had not been commited to the mainline kernel when ubuntu was released.  take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233540
[06:39] <billy> Is there an AcidPro-like program for Ubuntu?
[06:39] <PriceChild> jeanre, glxinfo | grep direct
[06:39] <jrib> billy: what does it do?
[06:39] <finsta> I think the FS is purely corrupted
[06:39] <youser> whats the newest ubuntu release? stable or unstable
[06:39] <jeanre> hmmm
[06:40] <raven3x7> billy AcidPro itsa a synth right?
[06:40] <jeanre> PriceChild: beryl feels slow
[06:40] <youser> i heard there may now be support for the 965 set
[06:40] <bruenig> youser, edgy eft is the last stable release, feisty is in alpha
[06:40] <PriceChild> youser, Dapper is "LongTermSupport", Edgy is latest
[06:40] <Demeskus> Weird..
[06:40] <billy> jrib : acid pro is an audio multitracker.
[06:40] <cc77> IndyGunFreak, googles anwsered me, its ./azureus to start azureus
[06:40] <bruenig> !info audacity
[06:40] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[06:40] <PriceChild> youser, Breezy is also still supported
[06:40] <Demeskus> Whenever I try to do something in Terminal I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[06:40] <youser> yeah but my computer will not boot those versions
[06:40] <PriceChild> jeanre, #ubuntu-effects please
[06:40] <youser> what about herd?
[06:40] <jrib> billy: jokosher, audacity maybe
[06:40] <PriceChild> youser, herd's are alphas of feisty
[06:40] <mitsuhiko> apparently not :D
[06:40] <bruenig> youser, herd is the name of the feisty alpha, it is not stable
[06:40] <youser> i see
[06:40] <StoneNote> Demeskus, then you might want to run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:40] <nkayhan> Please, a little help with keyboard shortcuts?
[06:40] <Demeskus> And whenever I do that, it says I can't do that as I'm not an administrator :\
[06:40] <mitsuhiko> well if, i someone want to help out on a textmate port? :D
[06:41] <StoneNote> Demeskus, try  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:41] <bruenig> nkayhan, gnome's keyboard shortcut scheme makes me vomit
[06:41] <Demeskus> I did.
[06:41] <StoneNote> and?
[06:41] <raven3x7> youser did you look at the link? well there is, but the kernel in the installation cd doesnt have the driver. so you either wait for feiisty or try to find a workaround.
[06:41] <PriceChild> Demeskus, prefix it wish "sudo"
[06:41] <Demeskus> Ah. That was it :D
[06:41] <PriceChild> Demeskus, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:41] <c0nka> wat is wine
[06:41] <bruenig> nkayhan, just go into the graphical keyboard thing and do whatever you want to do
[06:41] <bruenig> !wine
[06:41] <Demeskus> Foolish of me.
[06:41] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:41] <PriceChild> c0nka, I have answered you before.
[06:42] <c0nka> i no sorry but i had to restart the system sorry
[06:42] <billy> jrib: I don't think you can multitrack with audacity.  Audacity is a good wave editor, but I need something where I can mix tracks.
[06:42] <youser> so does anyone know if its the chipset causing the no boot or the sata hard drive?
[06:42] <nkayhan> bruenig: yea, but can I revert back to defaults, as I was trying to scroll through them, I made every thing down arrow
[06:42] <arooni> so do i have to run sudo apt-get update every so often?  or is that automatic
[06:42] <jrib> billy: jokosher then
[06:42] <jrib> !info jokosher | billy
[06:42] <ubotu> billy: jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[06:42] <bruenig> nkayhan, just change them to what you want, if you want to remove the shortcut completely I believe you can click on it and then hit backspace
[06:43] <nkayhan> bruenig: Ok, sure
[06:43] <bruenig> or delete or something like that
[06:43] <billy> jrib : thanks.  I'll check it.  1.6 MEGS !!!  Wow.  We'll see.
[06:43] <devilsreject> PriceChild -- i dl recordmydesktop from the website
[06:43] <nkayhan> bruenig: thanks
[06:43] <devilsreject> how do i install somethin
[06:43] <devilsreject> im used to usin the command prompt
[06:43] <jeanre> PriceChild: I am there
[06:43] <TheGateKeeper> vorbote: I created a file called /etc/apt/preferences with this in it http://pastebin.ca/389331, & the problem seems to have gone away thanx :-)
[06:43] <PriceChild> devilsreject, "sudo apt-get install packagename" or "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[06:43] <nkayhan> devilsreject:apt-get install "program name"
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> nkayhan: he'll need sudo more often than not.
[06:44] <bruenig> devilsreject, or is it source...
[06:44] <raven3x7> youser i dont think the chipset is supported. unless they backported the code into 2.6.17
[06:44] <arooni> anyone know how to install asterik for ubuntu?  i'm having *loads* of trouble (already googled it)
[06:44] <Demeskus> Hmm.. Is there a way to check if I'm the administrator? :S
[06:44] <bruenig> !rootsudo | Demeskus
[06:44] <ubotu> Demeskus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:44] <youser> i heard that the 2.6.18 kernel may have support
[06:44] <Demeskus> Ah
[06:44] <MrFlibble_> I have an X config prob.  I can't get Ubuntu to create a working xorg.conf.  Debian Testing is able to do it (and produces 800x600@61Hz), but the same xorg.conf copied to Ubuntu 6.10 generates 800x600@81Hz, which the monitor can't display.  Any ideas where to start looking?
[06:44] <chris2077> IndyGunFreak, which installs do not require sudo?
[06:44] <nkayhan> devilsreject: or open synaptic under system, administration, synaptic
[06:44] <youser> what would i need to get that feisty?
[06:44] <surface> Demeskus, whoami
[06:44] <devilsreject> see its on my desktop in folder recordmydesktop-0.3.3.1
[06:44] <raven3x7> youser, you need a distro with a more recent kernel. 2.6.19 at least would be my guess
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: that was my point, most of them require sudo.
[06:45] <devilsreject> alright
[06:45] <bruenig> devilsreject, link me to the package
[06:45] <PriceChild> youser, feisty is not erleased and unstable. It is not for beginners #ubuntu+1 for support
[06:45] <Hoffmann> Anybody any idea how I should handle that: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8210/ ?
[06:45] <fatyoga> anyone could recommena a good book to learn c++?
[06:45] <devilsreject> got synaptic open
[06:45] <c0nka> how do i use ubuntu
[06:45] <bruenig> devilsreject, synaptic won't work if it is source which it sounds like it is
[06:45] <raven3x7> youser, yeah but ubuntu edgy 6.10 uses 2.6.17
[06:45] <Hoffmann> c0nka: More details please
[06:45] <surface> fatyoga, thinking in c++
[06:45] <PriceChild> devilsreject, read the readme inside the package... that will tell you how to install
[06:45] <c0nka> becouse i am new to linux
[06:46] <devilsreject> /home/devilsreject/Desktop/recordmydesktop-0.3.3.1
[06:46] <chris2077> c0nka, the live cd will teach you
[06:46] <orgy`> ive got a list of package i have to install, but i dont want to type them all behind a "apt-get install" command, how can i automate that process (i thought of pasting them into a text file one package each line and then some program can read it)
[06:46] <nkayhan> c0nka: f1
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> c0nka: well what do you want to know how to do?
[06:46] <seppan> does anyone know how i join a channel containing the "" letter? when i try to join #frgesport get a reply in the status window saying "#frgesport :No such channel" xchat doesn't seem to accept ? in commands?
[06:46] <PriceChild> devilsreject, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[06:46] <c0nka> how to use it
[06:46] <PriceChild> seppan, That's not a valid character for a channel name
[06:46] <bruenig> devilsreject, you can use the debian sarge package if you want by doing this: wget http://apt.linex.org/linex2006/dists/cl/gnulinex/binary-i386/recordmydesktop_0.3.3-1~sarge1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i recordmydesktop_0.3.3-1~sarge1_i386.deb
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> c0nka: how to use what?
[06:46] <nkayhan> c0nka: f1 will guide you through a lot
[06:46] <Hoffmann> Anybody any idea how I should handle that: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8210/ ?
[06:46] <devilsreject> readme said nothin about installin it
[06:47] <MrFlibble_> c0nka: play with it. Experiment. Learn.
[06:47] <seppan> PriceChild, it works in mIRC can i get a serverlist to browse in?
[06:47] <bruenig> devilsreject, yeah follow PriceChild's link
[06:47] <c0nka> indygunfreak ubuntu
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> c0nka: you should chnage your name to "earsbroken"
[06:47] <bullgard1> Hoffmann: Na steht doch da: "To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line."
[06:47] <c0nka> why
[06:48] <nkayhan> c0nka: Are you new to computers?
[06:48] <IndyGunFreak> because you can't listen
[06:48] <devilsreject> i did that bruenig
[06:48] <c0nka> no to linux
[06:48] <Maul555> jeanre - use some of the more intensive screensavers, or games...
[06:48] <raven3x7> youser, you could try feisty but keep in mind it is not stale and updates are liokely to break things
[06:48] <devilsreject> that added my repository right it should be in synaptic now right
[06:48] <chris2077> c0nka, ubuntu is pretty much common sense for the basic stuff
[06:48] <fatyoga> surface: Thank you.
[06:48] <Maul555> whoops, just realized i was responding to a 5 minute old comment
[06:48] <youser> if i dual boot it wouldnt wreck my windows would it?
[06:48] <c0nka> well ive never used linux
[06:48] <surface> fatyoga, welcome
[06:48] <bruenig> youser, if dual boot recked windows it wouldn't be called dual boot
[06:48] <Maul555> youser:  backup backup backup!!!!
[06:48] <Hoffmann> bullgardl: same error msg
[06:49] <raven3x7> youser thats unlikely
[06:49] <youser> lol ok
[06:49] <bruenig> s/recked/wrecked/
[06:49] <youser> im gonna try feisty i think then
[06:49] <nkayhan> c0nka: Ubuntu's desktop enviroment (Gnome) is a lot like any other graphical enviroment like mac 0sx and windows, you shouldn't have problems opening things from the aplications menu
[06:49] <bruenig> youser, you should use xubuntu feisty, they need testers
[06:49] <IndyGunFreak> youser: always always always backup before messing with a linux install, even if not partitioning
[06:49] <chris2077> c0nka, you will notice a simirality to mac os x, if youve ever used that
[06:49] <billy> orgy`: isn't it just as easy to copypaste into a text file as it is to copypaste into a command line?
[06:49] <youser> xubuntuuuuu
[06:49] <raven3x7> youser, just be carefull with the partitioning. ;) default is to delete the entire drive
[06:49] <youser> lol
[06:49] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: lol
[06:49] <surface> xubuntu is cool
[06:50] <surface> i see it with berly
[06:50] <PriceChild> c0nka, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:50] <devilsreject> bruenig -- it should be showin up in synaptic package manager now right
[06:50] <Maul555> ok umm...
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> surface: xubuntu is good, i like it.
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> using Beryl with it defeats the purpose though
[06:50] <orgy`> billy not if they are formatted in a way that is not accepted by the command line :(
[06:50] <bruenig> devilsreject, I told you to follow PriceChild's link, I don't know about synaptic, I don't use it
[06:50] <Berto> is there a way to regenerate a default xorg.conf file?  I'm stuck in console on my other machine
[06:50] <|dedal|> channel #pldhelp
[06:50] <PriceChild> !xconfig | Berto
[06:50] <c0nka> ive installed it all fine i just want to learn the basics m8
[06:50] <ubotu> Berto: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[06:50] <Maul555> i have a nvidia driver issue with a FX5200...  opengl screensavers freeze the whole computer after about 30 seconds of working fine...
[06:50] <erUSUL> Berto: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:50] <PriceChild> c0nka, have you booted into ubuntu? Running in it now?
[06:50] <xadloki> hello I got a problem with booting up ubuntu, It started to check the disks after the 31 reboots and now it just get's stuck forever checking some bad sector I suppose... I let it check for 5 hours, is there anyway to get through this ? I know there's a few bad sectors and they are on a partition that is totally empty so I'm sure the root and home partitions are in good state
[06:50] <billy> orgy`:  hmm... how are they formatted.  as a vertical list?
[06:50] <Berto> thanks PriceChild
[06:51] <c0nka> yes
[06:51] <|dedal|> quit
[06:51] <arooni> help!
[06:51] <c0nka> m8
[06:51] <raven3x7> devilsreject, did you  click the reload button?
[06:51] <orgy`> billy exactly
[06:51] <arooni> can anyone help me installing asterik
[06:51] <bruenig> xadloki, the way I get throught it is hard reboot
[06:51] <devilsreject> yeah
[06:51] <orgy`> billy maybe ill write a simple python script for that
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> lol, i love ignore.
[06:51] <faceface> hey
[06:51] <bruenig> xadloki, do you mean asterisk
[06:51] <xadloki> bruenig: how do i hard reboot ?
[06:51] <orgy`> ive often faced that problem
[06:51] <faceface> how do I clear my configuration for printing?
[06:51] <nkayhan> c0nka: Dude, what do you want to do with your hundreds of dollars wroth computer, is is a perperweight right now?
[06:51] <bruenig> xadloki, hold the power button down on your cpu
[06:51] <billy> orgy`: smoke 'em if you got 'em.  :)
[06:51] <chris2077> wow supertuxkart is hard!
[06:51] <faceface> I have a 'printer not found' warning all the time
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: ?
[06:52] <xadloki> bruenig: that's what i did several times but it just starts over
[06:52] <raven3x7> xadloki, you really should get a new harddrive before this one goes to hell
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> is it like mario cart or something?
[06:52] <bruenig> xadloki, oh
[06:52] <nkayhan> faveface: restarted yet?
[06:52] <c0nka> what?
[06:52] <arooni> having loads of trouble installing asterik on ubuntu: cd /usr/src; export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.digium.com:/usr/cvsroot; cvs login (password anonvcs) ... RESULTS IN: Unknown host cvs.digium.com  .... ideas?
[06:52] <Migajoquinhas> hi everyone this is from portugal
[06:52] <raven3x7> xadloki, have you tried ctrl+c
[06:52] <chris2077> IndyGunFreak, yeh its a complete mimick of mariokart
[06:52] <Huffalump> Anyone know how to automate vmware's probing for unused subnets, so I don't have to manually approve things every time Ubuntu updates some software?
[06:52] <xadloki> well in Mac OS it says the disk is fine
[06:52] <Berto> erUSUL, thanks to you too!  i messed up setting things up and of course didn't backup... all good now :)
[06:52] <bruenig> !english
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: sweet
[06:52] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:52] <bruenig> !pt
[06:52] <Maul555> i have a nvidia driver issue with a FX5200...  opengl screensavers freeze the whole computer after about 30 seconds of working fine...  can anybody point me in the right direction?
[06:53] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:53] <erUSUL> Berto: no problem :D
[06:53] <nkayhan> C0nka: what do you wan't to do right now on your computer?
[06:53] <xadloki> raven3x7: i'll try ctrl+c
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: in the repos i assume?
[06:53] <chris2077> IndyGunFreak, yeh, what i thought, controls are weird though, tough to use
[06:53] <c0nka> learn ubuntu
[06:53] <Migajoquinhas> hi people
[06:53] <apokryphos> the ubuntu server I'm on seems to save fetchmail'd mail straight into Maildir. I thought fetchmail only supported mbox -- is some kind of conversion going on here?
[06:53] <Huffalump> faceface, when do you see that warning?
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: well, i never played the original..lol, but i like a lot of these goofy linux games
[06:53] <raven3x7> xadloki, well if you are right and it does have bad sectors its usually just a matter of time before it breaks completely
[06:53] <chris2077> IndyGunFreak, yeah, where i found it
[06:53] <Migajoquinhas>  did you ever came to portugal?
[06:54] <IndyGunFreak> chris2077: its installing
[06:54] <nkayhan> C0nka: OK, well, you're on it right now, so you've learned how to install it, now what aspect of ubuntu do you want to know.  What task?
[06:54] <chris2077> IndyGunFreak, nice, and lol yeh, decent games are far and few between
[06:54] <devilsreject> it says that its installed in package manager
[06:54] <devilsreject> whre do i go to use it
[06:54] <StoneNote> c0nka, read everything here http://ubuntuguide.org/ and let me know when you've read it all
[06:54] <IndyGunFreak> nkayhan: just how to use it!.. don't you understand..lol
[06:55] <xadloki> raven3x7: well it's been reporting bad sectors occasionally for about 5 months already and im gonna push it till it get's totally screwed, I have other drives but I prefer to use this one for OS's
[06:55] <posingaspopular> StoneNote: thats a bit of heavy reading...
[06:55] <nkayhan> IndyGunFreak: I wanted to post this on digg, for some laughs so I was adding to the fire
[06:55] <StoneNote> posingaspopular, he said he wanted to know it all :)
[06:55] <posingaspopular> StoneNote: well then, thats different
[06:55] <IndyGunFreak> if he'd give even the vaguest of ideas as to what he wants to learn, for instance, "how to surf the internet", i might entertain him but he's just being a moron i do believe
[06:56] <StoneNote> that is one step on his journey grasshopper :)
[06:56] <Maul555> i have a nvidia driver issue with a FX5200...  opengl screensavers freeze the whole computer after about 30 seconds of working fine...  can anybody point me in the right direction?
[06:56] <raven3x7> xadloki, i just wanted to make sure you were aware of the situation, since you are :)
[06:56] <zumi> !ntfs
[06:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:56] <posingaspopular> Maul555: reinstall the drivers, and see what happens
[06:56] <StoneNote> c0nka, well, I guess that really makes you grasshopper
[06:56] <zumi> !ntfs-3g
[06:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:57] <Maul555> posingaspopular:  think an older driver might help?
[06:57] <xadloki> raven3x7: yeh :) i'll give it another try now and see if I can get into ubuntu. thanks
[06:57] <raven3x7> np
[06:57] <c0nka> everything m8
[06:57] <ChrisGo> what does ubuntu use for install packages like yum or rpm?
[06:57] <billy> Maul555: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/13451-newbie-needs-help-new-installation.html
[06:57] <Seveas> ChrisGo, dpkg and apt
[06:57] <DinCahill> Hi. I'm about to install Ubuntu to a machine that already dual boots Windows Vista and XP. XP is installed on hda1 and Vista on hdb1. I assume the vista bootloader is on hda1 as I boot to HDD-0 in my BIOS. When installing Ubuntu, should I tell it to put GRUB on hd0,0? I know how to make GRUB recognize Vista, but am I right in assuming that installing GRUB on hd0,0 will not format it?
[06:58] <goodtimes> So i pull out my keyboard and i pull out my glock, and i dismount your girl and i mount slash proc (/proc)
[06:58] <Huffalump> heh
[06:58] <Seveas> DinCahill, you're right
[06:58] <DinCahill> good
[06:58] <devilsreject> where do i start this program from
[06:58] <chris2077> ChrisGo, i had so many tar.gz and rpms lying around on my  comp when i began, should have asked like you did
[06:58] <devilsreject> theres no command line to start it or anything
[06:59] <Huffalump> devilsreject what program?
[06:59] <raven3x7> devilsreject, what program?
[06:59] <devilsreject> record my desktop
[06:59] <Norf-ubu> if i add new hardware to an existing install of Edgy - will it automatically pick up the changes (assuming hardware is supported etc) ?
[06:59] <ChrisGo> Seveas if I download the server CD but want the dev tools is there a single package or group install feature for dev libs gcc g++ maybe even java?
[06:59] <c0nka> everything m8
[06:59] <devilsreject> can't find a way to start this
[06:59] <ChrisGo> chris2077 yeah im have been everywhere lately :)
[06:59] <billy> Maul555: nevermind.  that post is a bit old.
[07:00] <devilsreject> shouldn't it be showing up like under accesseries or somethin
[07:00] <Seveas> ChrisGo, build-essential gets you a long way for C/C++
[07:00] <VII> Anyone know how to make beryl autostart?
[07:00] <Seveas> ChrisGo, sun-java5-jdk for java
[07:00] <Roger_Melly> Does anyone know a permanent fix to the iPod RAID fix?
[07:01] <ChrisGo> so its just like debian
[07:01] <Dr_willis> raid of ipods?
[07:01] <nkayhan> !dumbass c0nka
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumbass c0nka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <cypherdelic> j #beryl
[07:01] <erUSUL> VII: add it to System>Prefer>sesions (it appears in all guides)
[07:01] <cypherdelic> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_amd64.deb: Versuche, /usr/lib/beryl/libthumbnail.so zu berschreiben, welches auch in Paket beryl-plugins-extra ist
[07:01] <chris2077> out of interest, does debian look better than ubuntu, from an end user point of view
[07:01] <Maul555> billy:  yeah, and it tells me to switch to mandrake...  ill throw a ati card in before i switch to mandrake
[07:01] <cypherdelic> i cant install extra plugins if plugins are installed
[07:01] <jrib> VII: add beryl-manager to what erUSUL said
[07:01] <Roger_Melly> iPod has a HAL problem.  something to do with a RAID bug.
[07:01] <Huffalump> devilsreject, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[07:01] <Norf-ubu> VII : system > prefs > sessions and click "new" type in beryl-manager then ok
[07:02] <billy> Maul555: :) We'll see if we can't find something else
[07:02] <c0nka> how do i setup beryl
[07:02] <VII> oh ok, thanx, I was under the impression that you had to do some special way with beryl
[07:02] <thingy> chris2077, to see the difference between debian and ubuntu...ask that same question on #debian and see for yourself :-)
[07:02] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, remove beryl-plugins-extra
[07:02] <nkayhan> C0nka: A REAL QUESTION!
[07:02] <c0nka> how do i setup beryl
[07:02] <Norf-ubu> VII - well that works here!
[07:02] <PriceChild> c0nka, #ubuntu-effects
[07:02] <chris2077> thingy, lol distro rivalries, im liking it
[07:03] <raven3x7> what filesystem do you mount dvds as?
[07:03] <Norf-ubu> c0nka try #beryl
[07:03] <c0nka> ok
[07:03] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: Cant i install extra plugins?
[07:03] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, beryl-plugins-unsupported has replaced -extra
[07:03] <nkayhan> C0nka:http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[07:03] <Norf-ubu> if i add new hardware to an existing install of Edgy - will it automatically pick up the changes (assuming hardware is supported etc) ?
[07:03] <chris2077> gotsta go .
[07:03] <aos> hey
[07:03] <ChrisGo> alst question :) can you install gcc 4.1.1 current then install for example gcc 4.0.x and use something like gcc-config to switch environments?
[07:03] <raven3x7> c0nka, if you check the wiki theres a couple of articles there
[07:03] <aos> who can i instal DGuitar??
[07:03] <aos> *how
[07:04] <c0nka> ok
[07:04] <nkayhan> Me hungry, go eat cheese poofs for breakfast
[07:04] <raven3x7> nnyone/ what filesystem do you mount dvds as?
[07:04] <sebrock> anyone using 3ddesktop here?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> sebrock,  its not worth messing with...
[07:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:04] <posingaspopular> sebrock: try #ubuntu-effects
[07:05] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: What about dbus? Do i need to install? I cant!
[07:05] <sebrock> well it works...almost
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !info 3ddesktop
[07:05] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[07:05] <Dr_willis> depends if he means THAT 3ddesktop or 'A 3d Desktop' :)
[07:05] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, "sudo apt-get remove beryl-dbus" don't need it.. and best to keep this in #ubuntu-effects
[07:05] <ChrisGo> what is the big diff between Ubuntu and Debian where is this going to be better?
[07:05] <cypherdelic> thanks
[07:06] <mando> Hi guys, i tried everything I found on the web, but nothing really helped. How can I make Counter Strike (or steam) run under ubuntu?
[07:06] <PriceChild> ChrisGo, the community makes ubuntu better imo
[07:06] <Dr_willis> ChrisGo,  'polish' and lots of 'twiddling' :)
[07:06] <billy> Maul555: try reading this.  --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208152&highlight=nvidia+opengl+freeze
[07:06] <surface> ChirsGo ubuntu is using debian as base
[07:06] <sebrock> Dr_willis, I neab that
[07:06] <pestilence> ChrisGo: debian has a lot slower release cycle
[07:06] <aos> any1 know how can i instal DGuitar?
[07:07] <surface> ubuntu user driven, debian server driven
[07:07] <pestilence> ChrisGo: and a much bigger package set in their main distro
[07:07] <Dr_willis> !find dguitar
[07:07] <ubotu> Package/file dguitar does not exist in edgy
[07:07] <Maul555> billy: oky, i was just getting confused about having multiple driver versions installed anyways...
[07:07] <Dr_willis> aos,  use the source I guess - its not in the repos.
[07:07] <c0nka> how do u no wat versoin of ubuntu you have got
[07:07] <posingaspopular> !version
[07:07] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:08] <ChrisGo> if i just need a server with basic compilations and a java env do you recommend ubuntu server over debain then?
[07:08] <billy> Maul555: that sounds like it could be a problem.  Don't know much about nvidia, though.  I use an Intel (integrated).
[07:08] <Dr_willis> ChrisGo,  i imagine  either one can do that job.
[07:08] <pestilence> ChrisGo: if you want it to be production quality, go debian
[07:08] <mando> Anyone here that knows how to install CounterStrike?
[07:08] <dynamicdip> ls
[07:08] <pestilence> ChrisGo: debian stable
[07:08] <Dr_willis> ChrisGo,  some would advise using 'bsd' for a server. :)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[07:08] <Seveas> ChrisGo, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[07:09] <ChrisGo> i was all about centos since its really redhat but hey are on really old gcc versions
[07:09] <Seveas> only use debian if you want to get the same old things as centos :)
[07:09] <pestilence> ChrisGo: doesn't the latest CentOS have gcc 4.1?
[07:09] <ChrisGo> pestilence not with out exports and tweaking
[07:09] <raven3x7> anyone know what other filetypes dvds use besides iso9660?
[07:09] <mjr> udf
[07:10] <ChrisGo> plus redhat jacks all the lib files
[07:10] <cypherdelic> disconnect
[07:10] <mjr> (plus, of course, anything that you decide to burn on a dvd, but udf is the "canonical" filesystem)
[07:10] <billy> cypherdelic: did you think you were in a terminal?
[07:10] <pestilence> ChrisGo: i don't think that's true
[07:10] <aos> maybe some1 here know how to run ragnarok online server on ubu?
[07:10] <pestilence> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/4.4/os/i386/CentOS/RPMS/ has 4.1.0
[07:10] <arooni> can someone help me install asterick on edgy?
[07:10] <ChrisGo> i have heard they customize the gcc for redhat
[07:11] <pestilence> ChrisGo: i have gcc4 on my centos machine *dunno*
[07:11] <Maul555> billy:  oooh, this script looks promising, ill report back with what happens..
[07:11] <raven3x7> mjr thanks. that worked! :D so edgy doesnt automount udf. maybe i should file a bugreport if there isnt one already
[07:11] <billy> Maul555: hope it works.  get back to us and let us know.  ubuntuforums.org really is the first place we should be searching for problems.
[07:12] <Demeskus> Hmm.. I can't seem to figure out how to access my hard drives. Halp? :D
[07:12] <TooR4u> hii
[07:12] <posingaspopular> Demeskus: acess?
[07:12] <PriceChild> Demeskus, you want to access your windows drive?
[07:12] <billy> Maul555: also, if it works for you, post your problem and the solution to that thread, please.
[07:12] <posingaspopular> !mount
[07:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <TooR4u> !ntfs
[07:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:12] <raven3x7> Demeskus, they should be in the places menu
[07:12] <Demeskus> I have two  drives, one on which I've installed Windows and Ubuntu and one I've got all my stuff in.
[07:13] <cyris> stuff = data ? :D
[07:13] <mando> lol
[07:13] <Demeskus> Quite so :D
[07:13] <Maul555> billy:  for sure, i hope it works..
[07:13] <cyris> ah, i love saterday mornings...
[07:13] <rjg_> Does anyone know of a res-hacker like program for linux?
[07:13] <skyweb> !fuse
[07:13] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:14] <rjg_>  Also, where's the list fo stuff that gets showed on the dropdown menu when you right click, I want to edit it.
[07:14] <Seveas> rjg_, rightclick on the menu :)
[07:15] <rjg_> seveas: like the menu that you get saying things like Create new folder.
[07:16] <Maul555> billy: whats your forum name?
[07:16] <rjg_> Nothing happens
[07:17] <Seveas> rjg_, ah that menu
[07:17] <Seveas> no idea
[07:17] <billy> Maul555: my forum name is "Billy McCann".
[07:17] <asaup> hi all
[07:17] <jrib> rjg_: depending on what you want to do, you can add nautilus scripts which show up on a submenu there
[07:18] <asaup> how can i make a remote dekstop connection to the comp of a friend of mine
[07:18] <asaup> over the internet
[07:18] <asaup> ??
[07:18] <jeanre> how does one check if dma on a drive is enabled?
[07:18] <mirak> is there a way to tell apt or dpkg to install kernels in a sub folder of /boot ? I use LVM and grub can't boot on a kernel located on a LVM partition
[07:18] <grandi> hmm.. what was the ubuntu-general chat
[07:18] <raven3x7> asaup hese running linux?
[07:18] <grandi> the channel i mean
[07:18] <rjg_> seveas: do you know how to edit it? On wndoze I'd run it thru res ahcker, but I don't have something like reshacker or the location of the file
[07:18] <ofn> hello! what is the difference between the dvd and the cd version of ubuntu 6.10 edgy?
[07:19] <asaup> yes
[07:19] <Norf-ubu> if i add new hardware to an existing install of Edgy - will it automatically pick up the changes (assuming hardware is supported etc) ?
[07:19] <asaup> we are both in kubuntu
[07:19] <rjg_> Jrib: I want to add apps to lunch, just under the rest, not on the scripts menu.
[07:19] <Seveas> ofn, the dvd has more packages, but they're just as easy to install via the internet
[07:19] <raven3x7> ofn, the dvd includes the alternate install
[07:19] <Demeskus> They drives not listed in the 'Places' menu or anything. I can see them in System -> Device Management though. :\
[07:19] <ofn> okay, thanks Seveas and raven3x7 :)
[07:20] <jrib> rjg_: if you're really interested and can't find an easier way, you could look at the source for nautilus-open-terminal
[07:20] <asaup> raven3x7 we are both in linux and he activated his desktop
[07:20] <Zeus> i've installed and used gdesklets previously, but for some reason after installing it this time, I can't find the gnome starter bar anywhere. It doesn't start when gdesklets starts either.
[07:20] <frogduster> help!
[07:20] <NewbieUser00001> i've got a broken samba package that won't upgrade and won't remove... it keeps telling me "samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.2._i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102"
[07:20] <Seveas> rjg_, *brainwave*, install the nautilus-actions package
[07:20] <Seveas> rjg_, and then look in system -> preferences
[07:20] <frogduster> I'm getting permission denied errors on feisty while using dhclient as root!
[07:20] <NewbieUser00001> can anyone tell me whats goin on with it?
[07:21] <raven3x7> asaup, freeNX and err...  there is another program. i dont remember the name damn
[07:21] <sebrock> Dr_willis, problem is that 3ddesktop is cycling trough my desktops to early, desktop has not been loaded yet, how can I delay this at startup?
[07:21] <asaup> is there any way more simple
[07:21] <TooR4u> i forgot the password of samba server....how to recover that?
[07:21] <Seveas> NewbieUser00001, please paste the complete output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:21] <raven3x7> asaup, vnc is the other one
[07:21] <Seveas> TooR4u, reset it on the server with smbpasswd
[07:21] <Dr_willis> sebrock,  check the 3dddesktop homepage.. once ya usew the program for a bit.. you realize its not.. err.. wo4rth using. :P  its just an old eyecandy toy.
[07:21] <asaup> i have to install them both
[07:21] <asaup> ??
[07:22] <Dr_willis> sebrock,  its just at the top of the package lists so everyone just has to try it. :) its got a lot of 'annoyances'
[07:22] <raven3x7> asaup, no just one. also try google for configuration help
[07:22] <Dr_willis> work time for me. bye all
[07:22] <sebrock> Dr_willis, I have check there, says nothing about this problem... is there a way to delay startup apps?
[07:22] <kharloss> hi. i want to chmod a folder and all subfolders . how can i do this ?
[07:22] <rjg_> seavas: sorry,, I'm used to moddding m  WIndoze box as oppsed to my linux one, despite the fact I've been using linux since I was 5
[07:22] <asaup> ok
[07:22] <asaup> thanx
[07:22] <billy> Bye Dr_willis.  Have fun at work!!
[07:22] <mando> how can i get the buttons of my logitech mx 510 mouse to work?
[07:22] <raven3x7> asaup, FrreeNX is supposed to be faster but i've never tried either
[07:23] <BigMac> Hey all. I have a dell 1501 with a broadcom chipset in ubuntu edgy eft. I Have ndiswrapper'd the driver, set it up and my wifi light is lit, but I can't find eth 1 under right clicking the networking icon in the task pane.
[07:23] <Seveas> rjg_, no sweat ;)
[07:23] <rjg_> seavas: sorry,, I'm used to moddding m  WIndoze box as oppsed to my linux one, despite the fact I've been using linux since I was 5
[07:23] <BigMac> I would just like to get this working
[07:23] <Seveas> with *brainwave* I meant that I though of something :)
[07:23] <rjg_> ah
[07:23] <billy> mando: do NONE of the buttons work?
[07:23] <NewbieUser00001> thats pretty much it there... other than "dpkg: error porcessing /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.2.i386.deb"   its on another machine so its hard to copy it to the pastebin
[07:23] <jrib> Seveas: seems slightly easier than my suggestion
[07:23] <mando> billy: the left/rigt and scroll thingy works ... the other dont ...
[07:24] <Seveas> jrib, slightly :)
[07:24] <akao> anyone have a mastery of C in here?
[07:24] <mando> billy: I just really want to get my forward and backward buttons to work again ... really helpful when browsing the web
[07:25] <jrib> akao: ##c
[07:25] <billy> mando: understandable.  We'll see if we can't dig something up.  :)
[07:25] <akao> ah thanks
[07:25] <mando> billy: :D
[07:25] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: did it say something about a post-install script failing?
[07:26] <humpinH> hi, i'm running at 2560x1024 on 2 monitors.  can i hv a separate wallpaper for each screen?
[07:26] <Botamis> Hi guys, can someone please assist me with installing codec for a video player?
[07:26] <NewbieUser00001> no, just pre- something
[07:26] <jrib> !codecs | Botamis
[07:26] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: are you installing or removing the package?
[07:26] <raven3x7> Botamis, what player?
[07:26] <ubotu> Botamis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:26] <BigMac> Hey all. I have a dell 1501 with a broadcom chipset in ubuntu edgy eft. I Have ndiswrapper'd the driver, set it up and my wifi light is lit, but I can't find eth 1 under right clicking the networking icon in the task pane.
[07:26] <NewbieUser00001> I'm attempting to force it... i was just trying to install LinNeighborhood
[07:26] <Botamis> !codecs
[07:26] <humpinH> !codecs
[07:27] <humpinH> nm :P
[07:27] <NewbieUser00001> pre-removal script is giving error
[07:27] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: what are you trying to force?
[07:27] <NewbieUser00001> i'm guessing for the old samba... would I need to stop the daemon first?
[07:27] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: no
[07:27] <NewbieUser00001> soundray: trying to force it to upgrade to next version
[07:28] <NewbieUser00001> anything to get it out of broken status
[07:28] <Ben701> Has anyone ever run a mail server on the desktop version of Edgy Eft?  If so I would like to ask a few questions of you
[07:28] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: why?
[07:28] <Seveas> !anyone | Ben701
[07:28] <billy> mando: are you comfortable in a shell and using nano?
[07:28] <Botamis> jrib: I'm lost cna you give me some guidance as what link to click and what to install?
[07:28] <ubotu> Ben701: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:28] <NewbieUser00001> just trying to share files across the network
[07:29] <jrib> Botamis: start with the first link
[07:29] <NewbieUser00001> with something thats easy enough for my girlfriend to use
[07:29] <Botamis> jrib: Yea that says that I should use free formats if I can.. how does that help me get a codec lol
[07:29] <mando> billy: I actually installed ubuntu a few days ago ... But I'm wiling to try
[07:29] <billy> mando: open a terminal.
[07:29] <jrib> Botamis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats is the first link
[07:30] <mando> ok
[07:30] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: sharing local files with the network? Or accessing files in a remote directory?
[07:30] <NewbieUser00001> either /// both
[07:30] <mando> billy:  ok
[07:30] <mando> done ;)
[07:30] <billy> mando: type `sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf`.  This file is what controls your x-server settings.
[07:31] <cliq> Hello. How to compile kernel on ubuntu? I like modify the orinal config. thank's
[07:31] <NewbieUser00001> but now I can't do anything with synaptic so long as there's a broken package
[07:31] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: have you read the help?
[07:31] <NewbieUser00001> no
[07:31] <posingaspopular> !compile | cliq
[07:31] <ubotu> cliq: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:31] <NewbieUser00001> i"ll google th error message
[07:31] <soundray> !kernelcompile > cliq, please read the private message from ubotu
[07:31] <tin_nqn> hello people
[07:31] <NewbieUser00001> it doesn't seem like something that would be covered in the samba help
[07:31] <jrib> !kernel | cliq
[07:31] <ubotu> cliq: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:31] <cliq> ok thank you
[07:31] <mando> billy:  ok ... Now i see some kind of text file, that includes also my grafic drivers and stuff ...
[07:32] <billy> tin_nqn : greetings earth_creature.
[07:32] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: I can help with the broken package, I just need to know what the general situation is.
[07:32] <billy> mando: correct.  Scroll Down until you see text that pertains to your mouse.
[07:32] <bluefox83> !firewall
[07:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:32] <tin_nqn> does somebody know a log file with the last deleted files?
[07:32] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: right now it's failing to remove a samba package, correct?
[07:32] <arooni> how can i rm -r a dir and not get prompted to delete read onl yfiles
[07:32] <jrib> arooni: add -f
[07:32] <mando> billy:  check ;)
[07:33] <NewbieUser00001> yes, i was attempting to update it, but then it said it was broken, then I figured I'd remove and install the new one one at a time
[07:33] <NewbieUser00001> but I can't remove it
[07:33] <mando> billy: found it
[07:33] <cliq> soundray: i'm using what version?
[07:33] <posingaspopular> !version
[07:33] <NewbieUser00001> i'm thinkin i need to update everything else first though
[07:33] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:33] <soundray> cliq: I don't know, find out with uname -a
[07:33] <billy> mando: change the "ZAxisMapping" from "4 5" (or whatever) to "6 7".
[07:33] <cliq> ok. thank you
[07:34] <Botamis> jrib: I'm trying to follow the instructions but I get lost when it says to click on Repositories and click Add. I don't see ADd
[07:34] <jrib> Botamis: what version of ubuntu?
[07:34] <Botamis> jrib: 6.10
[07:34] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: actually, you need to find out why the pre-removal script fails.
[07:34] <BigMac> Hey all. I have a dell 1501 with a broadcom chipset in ubuntu edgy eft. I Have ndiswrapper'd the driver, set it up and my wifi light is lit, but I can't find eth 1 under right clicking the networking icon in the task pane.
[07:34] <jrib> Botamis: you should have a "Third-Part" tab
[07:34] <mando> billy: done ;)
[07:34] <jrib> "Third-party" even
[07:35] <NewbieUser00001> ima tryin
[07:35] <Maul555> downloading packages on dialup sucks...
[07:35] <Botamis> jrib: Ok i'm there, I clicked add. Now what?
[07:35] <bluefox83> BigMac, wireless doesn't use eth1 it uses wlan
[07:35] <jrib> Botamis: now continue with the page
[07:35] <Seveas> bluefox83, not all wireless do that
[07:35] <Botamis> jrib: it says to check some boxes, but i don't see the boxes to check
[07:35] <Seveas> my wireless is eth1
[07:35] <mando> billy: is that it ? Is that all ... seems impossible to me :S
[07:35] <billy> mando: exit the text editor. be sure to save it.  then you'll need to restart.  press ctrl+alt+backspace.  log back in.  test it, come back here, and report.
[07:35] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: have you looked at it yet?
[07:35] <jrib> Botamis: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[07:35] <NewbieUser00001> don't know how
[07:35] <BigMac> bluefox83: I have never seen that as an option
[07:35] <bluefox83> Seveas, oh...
[07:36] <mando> billy great
[07:36] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: it's in /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.prerm
[07:36] <billy> mando: no prob.
[07:36] <Cyrus25801> is there a tut out there that helps you setup a server: I want to be able to create accounts and limit bandwidth and down and up limit's.Windows PC must be able to connect too.  I have searched the Internet but nothing that is very much detail.
[07:36] <Seveas> bluefox83, and on another machine ath0
[07:36] <NewbieUser00001> attempting "sudo apt-get install -f
[07:36] <bluefox83> i've never heard of wireless using anything but wlan >.>
[07:36] <mando> billy thx for help, be right back ;)
[07:36] <Seveas> and on the third it's wifi0
[07:36] <NewbieUser00001> same output
[07:36] <NewbieUser00001> will look at the file
[07:36] <billy> mando: right on.
[07:37] <_F00BaR> hey
[07:37] <lauchazombie> hi , does someboy have been able to use siefs ?
[07:37] <_F00BaR> can i have some help please
[07:37] <_F00BaR> i just installed ubunttu
[07:37] <soundray> !ask | _F00BaR
[07:37] <ubotu> _F00BaR: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <soundray> !enter | _F00BaR
[07:37] <ubotu> _F00BaR: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:38] <BigMac> bluefox83: my light is on but lo, eth 0 , eth1 and sit0 all return nothing when I "iwlist scanning"
[07:38] <_F00BaR> when i try to compile something i get this error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:38] <Seveas> !compilw _foo
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compilw _foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <thcmonkey> can uncommenting also mean to remove ; not just #?
[07:38] <soundray> _F00BaR: install build-essential and read the pm from ubotu
[07:38] <Seveas> !compile | _F00BaR
[07:38] <ubotu> _F00BaR: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:38] <lauchazombie> instal bult essential
[07:38] <lauchazombie> in synaptic
[07:39] <Seveas> BigMac, is it a broadcom chip?
[07:39] <BigMac> Seveas: yes
[07:39] <lauchazombie> you have to enable multiverse and staff
[07:39] <Seveas> BigMac, did you install the firmware?
[07:39] <NewbieUser00001> soundray: ok i'm in it... but I don't know what I'm looking for
[07:39] <Seveas> broadcom wifi does not work out-of-the-box
[07:39] <cyris> Is it mee or is the number 1 wireless problem i see in this channel always to do with broadcom cards :S man broadcom sucks
[07:39] <Seveas> cyris, indeed
[07:39] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: something that looks like you might have force-removed it although samba depended on it.
[07:39] <BigMac> Seveas: Not unless it was covered in this guide http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/01/fixing-wifi-on-dell-1501.html
[07:40] <mando> billy: It does work, but ... :S the mouse has lots of buttons. And the buttons, that did this job on windows don't do anything, but the buttons that didn't do anything on windows function now as back and forward
[07:40] <Seveas> BigMac, try this: dmesg | grep bcm43xx
[07:40] <Seveas> and pastebin the output
[07:40] <rjg_> HEy guys, I've successfullly install nautilius actions...
[07:40] <Seveas> BigMac, btw: that guide SUCKS
[07:41] <NewbieUser00001> it is rather short, and doesn't seem to have much going on in there
[07:41] <billy> mando: I see.  Did the "ZAxisMapping" read "4 5" before?  What did they read, if not?
[07:41] <BigMac> Seveas: Sorry, I just used it because it was expressly written for my computer
[07:41] <Seveas> BigMac, that guide may very well have broken your system completely
[07:41] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: have you opened it with sudo?
[07:41] <Seveas> BigMac, do you mind if I pm you?
[07:41] <BigMac> no
[07:42] <NewbieUser00001> nautilus in root mode... its open in gedit
[07:42] <rjg_> now, I'd like to be able to rgiht click a blank section of my desktop and in the dropdown, see entries like "Firefox" that when clicked on run firefox, etc..... Now, nautilius actions curently does this for me, but only when I right click, say, a shortcut...How can I fix this>
[07:42] <thcmonkey> can uncommenting also mean to remove ; not just #?
[07:42] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: okay. Insert 'exit 0' as the second line and save. That will force a success on 'apt-get -f install'
[07:42] <mando> billy don't really know what you are asking for :S the option said 4 5  before and then i changed it to 6 7 - i know I'm not a really big help ... sorry
[07:43] <tonyb2006> i forgot the root pw for this ubuntu box and now it says the hdd failed fsck and wants to go into maitence mode
[07:43] <NewbieUser00001> ok.
[07:43] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: fairly unclean, but when you install it again (from the repositories please), it should be all right.
[07:43] <headphase> hello
[07:43] <adminx> anyone with success using sd carders on laptops in ubuntu
[07:43] <adminx> I have a toshiba laptop with builtin carder, I would like for it to auto mount
[07:43] <headphase> I can't get my external hd to work
[07:44] <Cyrus25801> is there a tut out there that helps you setup a server: I want to be able to create accounts and limit bandwidth and down and up limit's.Windows PC must be able to connect too.  I have searched the Internet but nothing that is very much detail.
[07:44] <tonyb2006> score, usb flash drive
[07:44] <soundray> tonyb2006: you have to chroot into it from a live CD or so and reset the password. Please leave the root account locked next time -- saves you pain and is more secure.
[07:44] <NewbieUser00001> nice trick... but now its giving post-installation script returned error exit status 102 samba
[07:45] <billy> mando: `sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf`.  change "6 7" to "8 9".  remember to save the file, log out (ctrl+alt+backspace), come back and let me know.
[07:45] <tonyb2006> it might be locked
[07:45] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: you may have to do the same trick on /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst then.
[07:45] <NewbieUser00001> ok
[07:45] <NewbieUser00001> will do
[07:45] <mando> billy: what does 6 and 7 stand for? cant i just change it to more - considering that it stands for the amount of buttons
[07:45] <mando> billy: ok ... thx
[07:46] <mando> billy be right back
[07:46] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: but please get used to the thought that the system will need a reinstall to fix it long-term.
[07:46] <adminx> anyone with success using sd carders on laptops in ubuntu
[07:46] <tonyb2006> meh im not at my house (where various livecds are scattered everywhere) so I cant find one
[07:46] <bdina> i need help getting intel ht working -- can anyone here help me with that?
[07:46] <knoppix> bjc
[07:47] <nekr0z> Hello all! Have problem with a camera, it used to connect to my laptop OK, but after some update F-Spot says I'm not allowed to access USB device or something like this. I have found in forums, that camera should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules to work good, but mine IS ALREADY there, so I seem to be stuck. Any ideas?
[07:47] <lauchazombie> i need help browsing the files in my phone is a siemens m65
[07:47] <soundray> adminx: the word is card reader. Most SD card readers work with kernel 2.6.17 -- so if you're not on edgy yet, an upgrade might fix it.
[07:47] <NewbieUser00001> soundray: it finished successfully
[07:48] <NewbieUser00001> what next?
[07:48] <xamox> anyone have a good performance tweaking guide for edgy?
[07:48] <mando> billy: Now none of the extra buttons work
[07:48] <bdina> Is anyone running edgy with HyperThreading???
[07:48] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: read the help:
[07:48] <soundray> !samba > NewbieUser00001
[07:48] <NewbieUser00001> okiedokie
[07:48] <billy> mando: relax.  fixing it is as simple as going back and changing xorg.conf.
[07:48] <adminx> soundray i'm on 7.04
[07:48] <billy> mando: remember how to do that?
[07:49] <mando> billy: do you have any other suggestions? if not, i ll just stick to the option before :D
[07:49] <billy> mando: yes.   i have other suggestions. :)
[07:49] <nblracer> i dont recalling seeing a patch, but was there an update for the timezone/daylight savingtimes chnage for the US
[07:49] <mando> yeah, linux doesnt seem all that complicated - dont know what all the people are talking about
[07:50] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: also, check out the sections on " How to mount/unmount network folders..." in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:50] <mando> billy: oh you do ... Well then, whats the next idea :P
[07:50] <billy> mando: me neither.  it has a slight learning curve, but ... hey ... with all this help.
[07:50] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: it's an unofficial guide, but this section is quite useful
[07:50] <soundray> adminx: in that case, ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:51] <mando> billy: Thats the main reason i changed ... Ubuntu has even its philosophy !!
[07:51] <soundray> nblracer: there is. Install tzdata
[07:51] <mando> billy: so what was the other suggestion you had ?
[07:51] <mando> billy:  hahaha
[07:51] <billy> mando: `sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf`.  change the "ZAxisMapping" back to "4 5".  Let me know when you do that? (remember, it takes me a second to type.)
[07:51] <soundray> nblracer: and check whether the DST dates are correct with "zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007"
[07:52] <nekr0z> mando: Hey, I used to think that way too, but now I just connect a device that worked 2 weeks ago, and it doesn't, and no one seems to have the clue... So I'm not so sure now :(
[07:52] <MTec007> hello, is there a way to install without loading X?
[07:52] <soundray> nekr0z: I've missed your problem description so far
[07:52] <mando> billy: changed back to 4 5
[07:52] <nekr0z> soundray: Have problem with a camera, it used to connect to my laptop OK, but after some update F-Spot says I'm not allowed to access USB device or something like this. I have found in forums, that camera should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules to work good, but mine IS ALREADY there, so I seem to be stuck. Any ideas?
[07:53] <soundray> MTec007: yes, choose a server install
[07:53] <whieimhere> Is there an easy way to divide a 1.1 gig movie file into two smaller movie files to be burned to CD
[07:53] <Gena-Trius> Hi!
[07:53] <MTec007> i cant load the live cd, i need to not load X at all'
[07:53] <nblracer> soundray im little new, how do i go about installing that
[07:53] <Gena-Trius> Does anyone have this card? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBuffalo
[07:53] <flake> can I make my own gnome session without overwriting the default one?
[07:53] <nekr0z> soundray: Maybe it was too long for the channel... Are there limits here?
[07:53] <billy> mando: now add this line below the "ZAxisMapping" line.  `Option    "ButtonMapping"    "1 2 3 6 7".  Save.  Log out.  Test it and report back.
[07:54] <flake> i want to use a desklet taskbar and get rid of the top applications menu, but be able to go back if I mess something up
[07:54] <soundray> nekr0z: are you a member of group plugdev? If not, run 'sudo adduser $(whoami) plugdev'
[07:54] <kubie> hi there
[07:54] <kubie> I got the ubuntu cd
[07:54] <Gena-Trius> It's coming with my new laptop, and I need to make sure that what is says in the Comments section is ALL I'll need to do.
[07:54] <billy> mando: don't put the ` character into your xorg.conf text file though.  8\
[07:54] <kubie> but I cant choose LVM when it asks me to format the disk
[07:54] <kubie> has anybody got an idea what I supposed to do?
[07:54] <mando> nekrOz: I know what you are talking about. For example my printer won't work under linux :( Which is pretty stupid, cause i need to switch to win just to print a document ... same with my microphone
[07:54] <nekr0z> soundray: I'll do, but just for convenience: how do I see if I am already?
[07:54] <soundray> nblracer: just open a terminal and run "zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007"
[07:54] <mando> billy i see
[07:55] <Gena-Trius> Hello?
[07:55] <AlexC_> hi,
[07:55] <soundray> nekr0z: enter just 'groups' and see if plugdev is listed
[07:55] <billy> Gena-Trius: what's up?
[07:55] <thcmonkey> is there a way of sending a network message from an ubuntu machine to an xp machine? - obviously when on the same network
[07:55] <MTec007> soundray: i cant load the live cd, i need to not load X at all, is that possible?
[07:55] <kubie> thcmonkey: netsend
[07:55] <nekr0z> soundray: It is.
[07:55] <kubie> eeer
[07:55] <kubie> thcmonkey: smbmessage
[07:55] <kubie> or something like that
[07:55] <soundray> MTec007: yes, you will need the alternate CD. See ubotu's pm
[07:55] <soundray> !alternate > MTec007
[07:55] <Gena-Trius> This card ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBuffalo ) is coming with my new laptop, which I mean to install ubuntu on. Is that, in the Comments box, ALL I'll need to do?
[07:55] <thcmonkey> kubie: awesome, cheers dude
[07:56] <VII> Ive downloaded a tar.gz-file containing icons, how do I use them?
[07:56] <kubie> thcmonkey:  but yeah, there a util in the samba package
[07:56] <mando> billy: do i need to put option in the first row ?
[07:56] <PriceChild> VII, extract to ~/.icons
[07:56] <kubie> why did they make the installer so retard?! :/
[07:56] <AlexC_> VII: drag n drop them into the the theme editor window thingy, System->Prefs->Theme
[07:56] <VII> hm
[07:56] <flake> can I copy my current gnome session and edit that so if I mess anything up I can go back to my default gnome session?
[07:56] <billy> mando: yeah.  do your best to line up all those words with the words above them.  For instance, the "Option" should line up with the other "Options".
[07:56] <kubie> is there an alternate cd for herd? does anybody know?
[07:57] <thcmonkey> kubie: know how i access it from a terminal?
[07:57] <mando> billy cool
[07:57] <AlexC_> kubie: #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <feta> on xubuntu, festival complains when trying to play 'Hello': '/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found #<Utterance 0xb71ada18>'. why is that and how to fix?
[07:57] <billy> mando:  I don't think that's very important to get the entire line perfect.
[07:57] <soundray> nekr0z: are you plugging the camera while you're already logged in?
[07:57] <nekr0z> flake: You definitely can, but I'm afraid I don't know how. Hang on a second, I'll try to figure it out.
[07:57] <billy> mando: you did put that new line *below* the "ZAxisMapping" line, right?
[07:57] <flake> ok
[07:58] <nekr0z> soundray: Sure.
[07:58] <mando> billy: dont wanna be a dush ... just dont wanna make a mistake ... yes i put it there
[07:58] <cpsalvestrini> Hi all
[07:58] <AlexC_> Hi
[07:58] <billy> mando: ditto.  remember to save the file.  log out and let me know if it works.
[07:58] <cpsalvestrini> I'm having some trouble with gnome keyring manager
[07:59] <soundray> nekr0z: I've no idea at the moment, but check every hour or so if someone has logged on who can help... sometimes it takes some patience.
[07:59] <mando> billy:  do you want me to put an 8 after the seven ?
[07:59] <danny31> Hi all
[07:59] <AlexC_> Hi
[07:59] <NewbieUser00001> soundray: I know how to use it, I just didn't know what was wrong with i
[07:59] <NewbieUser00001> it
[07:59] <billy> Mando: we'll try that *after* we try this.
[07:59] <NewbieUser00001> thanks for the help... i appreciate it
[07:59] <danny31> how can i open dicom files?
[07:59] <cpsalvestrini> Specifically, the keyring manager does not store my passwords
[07:59] <mando> billy: kk
[07:59] <bariel> hello, what should i do if i get this error: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADERS
[07:59] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: you're welcome. Come back and help others when you're through the initial newbie stage ;)
[07:59] <grandi> is there channel for more general chat?
[07:59] <AlexC_> #ubuntu-offtopic grandi
[08:00] <nekr0z> soundray: Is there a way to figure out where in /dev/ the camera is at the moment. Just wanna check the permissions by hand.
[08:00] <mando> billy brb
[08:00] <Botamis> !codec
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <grandi> Alec, thanks
[08:00] <cpsalvestrini> !gnome-keyring
[08:00] <AlexC_> !restricted | Botamis
[08:00] <Ng> bariel: have you installed build-essential?
[08:00] <ubotu> gnome-keyring: GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 63 kB, installed size 1492 kB
[08:00] <ubotu> Botamis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:00] <bariel> NG, build-essential is already the newest version
[08:00] <cpsalvestrini> so as i said, gnome-keyring will not save passwords.
[08:00] <bradford> Tried to run software update and got error E could not lock var/cache/apt/archives/lock open (11 resouce temporarily unabalible) E: unable to lock the download directory.
[08:01] <cpsalvestrini> *-) are you running synaptic as well?
[08:01] <mjg> Can anyone help with installation of  wireless nic (D-LINK DWL-G510) on Ubuntu Edgy?
[08:01] <soundray> nekr0z: I'm not sure. I'd do a 'ls /dev >/tmp/devlist1', then plug the camera and do 'ls /dev/ >/tmp/devlist2 ; diff /tmp/devlist1 /tmp/devlist2'
[08:01] <NewbieUser00001> soundray: I do try... i'm in here often under the name CyberCod... this is just a desktop I set up to sell... i made a shortcut to irssi that was pre-configured to come in here with this name
[08:01] <bariel> Ng, i have another information, i got If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.. how can i use it?
[08:01] <cpsalvestrini> mjg: try installing ndiswrapper and the latest windows drivers, should work.
[08:02] <arooni> how can i become root
[08:02] <arooni> for awhile
[08:02] <danny31> su
[08:02] <AlexC_> !sudo | arooni
[08:02] <ubotu> arooni: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:02] <soundray> NewbieUser00001: good, I'll know who you are ;)
[08:02] <cpsalvestrini> arooni use sudo -i
[08:02] <billy> arooni: there is no root for Ubuntu.
[08:02] <Gena-Trius> Can anyone help me?
[08:02] <nblracer> soundray thanks it all looks good
[08:02] <mjg> cps: Documentation says it should work with ath_pci module and madwifi
[08:02] <AlexC_> not if you don't ask a question, Gena-Trius
[08:02] <bradford> Any help here??
[08:02] <Gena-Trius> I have, twice.
[08:02] <AlexC_> !ask | bradford
[08:02] <ubotu> bradford: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <Gena-Trius> This card ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBuffalo ) is coming with my new laptop, which I mean to install ubuntu on. Is that, in the Comments box, ALL I'll need to do?
[08:02] <nblracer> soundray Is there a way i can turn auto updates on too
[08:03] <bradford> ok my question is Tried to run software update and got error E could not lock var/cache/apt/archives/lock open (11 resouce temporarily unabalible) E: unable to lock the download directory.
[08:03] <mando> billy so much about the complicity of linux systems ... it all works great now PLUS even the buttons, that didn't work on win work now ... besides one button, which i dont even know what its supposed to be for
[08:03] <cpsalvestrini> ok mjg. it might be a firmware / chipset driver if you can't get your card to work.
[08:03] <mando> billy GLAD :D
[08:03] <MTec007> where can i get the "Alternate CD"?
[08:03] <Ng> bariel: it's more likely you need to run ./autogen.sh or install a newer automake, but it's hard to say
[08:03] <cpsalvestrini> that's why i suggested ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[08:03] <AlexC_> bradford: do you have synaptic or apt-get running ?
[08:03] <Ng> MTec007: should be in the same place as the desktop one
[08:03] <nekr0z> soundray: I'll give it a try.
[08:03] <mando> billy thx man, you've been a great help ! ;)
[08:03] <MTec007> i dont it
[08:03] <MTec007> see it*
[08:04] <bradford> AlexC I'm not sure what you mean.
[08:04] <AlexC_> bradford: is Synaptic open?
[08:04] <billy> mando: please go to ubuntuforums.org and post a thread.
[08:04] <Gena-Trius> Also, the person selling the laptop said it was WLI-CB-G54m but the card listed here has an L at the end of it's name. Might this be bad?
[08:04] <mjg> cps: Not sure what you mean by that. I have 2 ubuntu computers, one runs, the other does not... makes no sense to me...
[08:04] <AlexC_> Gena-Trius: probably. Try it when it arrives,
[08:04] <Comrade-Sergei> by default where does ubuntu put the executuble for its programs?
[08:04] <Gena-Trius> The thing is, if anything goes wrong, I don't get to keep the laptop.
[08:04] <ChrisGo> ok jsut installed the server cd 6.10 and it never asked me for root password what is the default so i can change it?
[08:04] <billy> mando: I'm really glad to help.
[08:04] <AlexC_> Comrade-Sergei: depends, usually though it's /usr/bin
[08:04] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[08:04] <Gena-Trius> I can't have any probablies...
[08:04] <bradford> AlexC not sure.  How do I know
[08:04] <flake>  /usr/bin i think
[08:05] <flake> you can do a whereis
[08:05] <mando> billy, i will ... i just hope my english is good enough for that :S...
[08:05] <AlexC_> bradford: look in the window list thing and the bottom?
[08:05] <billy> mando: you're english is great.
[08:05] <mando> billy: ;)
[08:05] <ramza3> how do I change the "Text Editor" from gedit to something else
[08:05] <Gena-Trius> I'll ask on the forums.
[08:05] <cpsalvestrini> jmg: cards by a same manufacturer might use different chips in later revisions of the card... that's what i meant by that.
[08:05] <flake> whereis konqueror
[08:05] <mando> billy: Ashame :S
[08:05] <AlexC_> it's over here
[08:05] <bradford> Software update is open.
[08:05] <mando> billy: hahaha
[08:05] <ChrisGo> when you install the server cd it doesnt propt you for root password how do you su or sudo if you dont know the password?
[08:05] <CheshireViking> is there a good, working speech recognition system for Ubuntu/Linux, I'm just downloading Sphinx from the repo's, just wondering if this is the only one and whether it can integrate with other apps like openoffice etc
[08:05] <dimeotane> when I delete a file nautilus/desktop freezes for a couple seconds... anyone have this problem or have suggestions?
[08:06] <cpsalvestrini> bradford: close software update if you want to run apt-get manually
[08:06] <Comrade-Sergei> AlexC_ do you  have bittorrent, thats the one im looking for
[08:06] <ChrisGo> is there a default password?
[08:06] <nekr0z> flake: The default session is in /usr/share/gnome/default.session and I believe that you can locate the file where your current session is saved (try "gnome-session-save" and see what files appear in your home directory) at that moment. You can remove them later or replace with the default one.
[08:06] <mjg> cps: Thanks for the info... I've given up on trying to fix this. I'll use ndiswrappers for now... The card worked fine in Dapper, broke in edgy...
[08:06] <ChrisGo> about 10 seconds and im never looking back this is bad
[08:06] <AlexC_> Comrade-Sergei: just download a .torrent file and double click it
[08:06] <bradford> I am just trying to run software update.
[08:06] <cpsalvestrini> yw mjg:)
[08:07] <bradford> So how do I get software update to run?
[08:08] <cpsalvestrini> i have an issue with gnome keyring manager: it won't save my passphrases. no matter what i do, it won't save passphrases. i've even manually deleted my keyrings (and by doing that i think i fubared it) but so far no dice.
[08:08] <gnudoc> bradford: do you just want to upgrade your installed software?
[08:08] <bradford> Yes
[08:08] <billy> bradford: system>administration>update manager
[08:08] <caravena> Hello, how to install package dcopprinter in Ubuntu Dapper?
[08:08] <nekr0z> soundray: diff returns empty string. Do you have ANY indea of what the hell is happening?
[08:09] <dumbalien> using scribus in windows; does it work better under linux?
[08:09] <bradford> billy that is what I am doing and get the error.
[08:09] <gnudoc> bradford: several ways. are you comfortable with typing into the terminal?
[08:09] <AlexC_> nekr0z: soundray left,
[08:09] <MTec007> Ng: i wonder if the server install CD will load, while the live cd wount
[08:09] <billy> bradford: what does the error read?
[08:09] <bradford>  E could not lock var/cache/apt/archives/lock open (11 resouce temporarily unabalible) E: unable to lock the download directory.
[08:09] <nekr0z> AlexC_: thanks, I've missed it.
[08:09] <phewl> is it weird that my ubuntu runs worse without xgl?
[08:09] <Ng> MTec007: in what way does the live CD not load?
[08:09] <phewl> like it lags way more
[08:09] <AlexC_> phewl: nope,
[08:09] <Comrade-Sergei> wow bittorrent.com must have taken quite a legal beating since i last saw it. lol
[08:09] <phewl> whys that?
[08:10] <niyanta> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on my compaq presario v3000z. I'm having a problem with wireless. I followed this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29 and installed my windows broadcom driver. This is the output if ndiswrapper -l: " Installed drivers: bcmwl5 driver installed, hardware present". But when I try to connect using sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "<MyEssId>" key <MyWEPKey>, it's
[08:10] <niyanta>  not working
[08:10] <AlexC_> phewl: xgl/compiz/beryl use the Graphics Card instead of the CPU to do drawing of the desktop,
[08:10] <billy> bradford: open synaptic.
[08:10] <ChrisGo> just installed the server cd and it didnt ask me for root password is there a default so i can change it?
[08:10] <dumbalien> using scribus in windows; does it work better under linux?
[08:10] <inthepit> anyone available to help me with teamspeak
[08:10] <phewl> well cuz i updated and the beryl-core update broke my xgl and im working on downgrading to get it working again
[08:10] <MTec007> its real slow, i shut the pc off after staring at a orange screen with 2 all grey empy toolbars for 20 minutes
[08:10] <AlexC_> phewl: so it actually, kinda, speeds up you're pc - as it's not using the cpu (as much)
[08:10] <mvfeinstein> Hello, I have a pretty new install of ubuntu feisty and it is running kind of slow. Can anyone here point me in the right direction on how to speed it up
[08:10] <PriceChild> !sudo | ChrisGo
[08:10] <ubotu> ChrisGo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:10] <Ng> MTec007: hmm, was the CD drive still making noises?
[08:10] <Ng> ?win 81
[08:10] <PriceChild> ChrisGo, root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[08:10] <Ng> erk
[08:10] <MTec007> yep
[08:10] <AlexC_> mvfeinstein: Feisty is in Heavy development, only use if you know it _will_ break! and for Feisty questions go in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:11] <atomiku> ive just copied a folder to another hard drive how can I checksum thingy the two folders to make sure its copied correctly?
[08:11] <Maul555> whats with all these people running unstable versions all of a sudden and then wondering why they have problems?
[08:11] <mvfeinstein> AlexC_ thanks for the tip
[08:11] <phewl> AlexC_, but with xgl i cant play games like tremulous or it runs but it'll be in a different resolution then my screen and when i join a server its all in a weird language but the main menu is all the same just when i join it looks like its encoded or something
[08:11] <billy> atomiku: is checksum like md5sum?
[08:11] <bradford> where is synaptic?
[08:11] <AlexC_> Maul555: I have _no_ idea. I've seen loads of people running Feisty who are new to Linux then complaining it's not working,
[08:11] <atomiku> yeah
[08:11] <AlexC_> bradford: system->admin->synaptic
[08:11] <Ng> bradford: System->Administration
[08:12] <Nick_oi> hi guys, what does it mean if i get bash: ./jdk-6-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied?
[08:12] <AlexC_> you don't have permission,
[08:12] <inthepit> anyone able to help me with a quick TeamSpeak question
[08:12] <cpsalvestrini> bradford: system > administration>synaptic package manager
[08:12] <MTec007> ng: alt CD: "installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM." <-- this applys to me.
[08:12] <Ng> Maul555: because people see Herd release announcements on Digg and don't read :/
[08:12] <Maul555> im new to linux, but i know better than to try to run an unstable version...
[08:12] <Nick_oi> well i tried it as root
[08:12] <billy> atomiku: you can use the `md5sum /example/folder` command in a terminal to check them.
[08:12] <Ng> MTec007: ah that could well be the reason then
[08:12] <MTec007> yes.
[08:12] <MTec007> so i do need the alt cd then im guessing
[08:13] <cpsalvestrini> Nick_oi: try doing the same thing with sudo before ti
[08:13] <ChrisGo> so basically sudo -u root su works ?
[08:13] <MTec007> i dont want x installed any way, server only
[08:13] <Nick_oi> cpsalvestrini: i tried as root
[08:13] <inthepit> in TeamSpeak i need to pick my onboard sound and not my sound card...  not sure how cause its not named the same as on the volume selector
[08:13] <AlexC_> MTec007: the Alternate CD does still install X,
[08:13] <AlexC_> MTec007: if you want no X, use the Server CD
[08:13] <ChrisGo> MTec007 the server cd is a base as it gets :)
[08:13] <nekr0z> AlexC_: If asked for...
[08:14] <cpsalvestrini> Nick_oi: did you check the permissions for the file in question? make sure it's executable
[08:14] <atomiku> ive just copied a folder to another hard drive how can I checksum thingy the two folders to make sure its copied correctly?
[08:14] <billy> bradford: have you found and opened synaptic yet?
[08:14] <MTec007> but what about the memory issue?
[08:14] <AlexC_> !repeat | atomiku
[08:14] <ubotu> atomiku: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:14] <ChrisGo> how do you add auto start services like in gentoo rc-update add sshd default works?
[08:14] <cpsalvestrini> Nick_oi: also, try looking for a deb package for java 6, it installs better
[08:14] <billy> atomiku: use the md5sum command in a terminal.
[08:14] <nekr0z> MTec007: how much memory do you have?
[08:14] <MTec007> 128
[08:15] <atomiku> billy: how, i read the --help but it didnt tell me much
[08:15] <phewl> haha
[08:15] <superkirbyartist> !virus
[08:15] <inthepit> Nick_oi: use automatix to install java.  not easyubuntu
[08:15] <phewl> it tells you exactly how to do it
[08:15] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:15] <Nick_oi> cpsalvestrini: sorry stupid, stupid ,stupid windows habits:)
[08:15] <cpsalvestrini> atomiku: try looking up the manpage for the app you're trying to run
[08:15] <superkirbyartist> !swap
[08:15] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[08:15] <lilrayray> hi all, how would I go about disabling one of my cores on my dual core intel processor?
[08:15] <inthepit> automatix installs 6 easyubuntu installs 5
[08:15] <nekr0z> MTec007: should be enough for a system without x
[08:15] <AlexC_> lilrayray: no idea, but why would you want to do that?
[08:15] <cpsalvestrini> lol Nick_oi :) I know, took me a while to care about permissions
[08:15] <maggi> hi there! i'm trying to build a custom live cd from ubuntu 6.10. all i want is using a patched kernel instead of the one that came with caspar. my problem: after booting caspar from the cd (testing done with VMWare) and chosing my patched kernel, the kernel fails to boot because it isnt able to open /scripts/caspar (message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar") and ends up with a panic. any idea?
[08:16] <cheeseboy> hi can someone help me configure mythtv with lirc?
[08:16] <atomiku> im trying to check a folder though
[08:16] <Nick_oi> thanks a lot cpsalvestrini :)
[08:16] <freak1> i want to download vlc player  And codecs Where i can download this things for Ubuntu?
[08:16] <kny> if i install ubuntu using this computer on a hdd i afterwards put into another computer, will it cause any trouble? like, is the hardware it was being installed upon of any importance?
[08:16] <AlexC_> freak1: open up Synaptic and search for "vlc"
[08:16] <cpsalvestrini> yw Nick_oi :)
[08:16] <lilrayray> AlexC_: because ubuntu seems to be incapable of handling a dualcore processor.  Ubuntu freezes up COMPLETELY every so often
[08:16] <inthepit> freak1: use automatix
[08:17] <inthepit> http://getautomatix.com
[08:17] <freak1> And codecs?
[08:17] <atomiku> how can I md5sum a folder?
[08:17] <_ant_> !automatix
[08:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:17] <inthepit> all of it is on there
[08:17] <AlexC_> freak1: VLC comes with a lot of codecs, but also:
[08:17] <Ng> don't use automatix
[08:17] <MTec007> nekr0z: will the ram be a problem? the live cd wouldnt load for me to install it. im thinking the install gui may pose the same threat
[08:17] <Ng> read the wiki
[08:17] <AlexC_> !restricted | freak1
[08:17] <ubotu> freak1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <kanzie> Is there something wrong with the lupine.me.uk-repos? They take forever to update...
[08:17] <ChrisGo> wow never get answers lol
[08:17] <phewl> !worksforme
[08:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:17] <AlexC_> lilrayray: I've ran Ubutun on both a AMD X2 and an intel core 2 duo ... both cores work fine
[08:17] <nekr0z> kny: I did that without any issue. But the video card can be a problem as far as I understand
[08:17] <ChrisGo> ok how bout this ont he server cd is sshd installed by default?
[08:18] <kny> oh, so the videocard setup is being determined during installation only? nothing else?
[08:18] <lilrayray> AlexC_: well your lucky. I have an older Pentium D, and it freezes up somewhat often
[08:18] <nekr0z> MTec007: Try XFCE for GUI, not GNOME.
[08:18] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: to connect the the server you'll need to install openssh-server
[08:18] <billy> atomiku: i'm not sure if you can do entire folders.  if you make sure the contents of each folder is identical and then md5sum a couple of the files, there's a exceeding high chance that everything went fine.
[08:18] <AlexC_> lilrayray: weird, never heard of any one have problems with that cpu
[08:18] <Alpenmilchschoko> I still cannot understand..what is so special about Ubuntu?
[08:18] <MTec007> how would i do that?
[08:18] <nekr0z> MTec007: but I myself have run Dapper on 96 MB system
[08:18] <ChrisGo> AlexC_ thanks so i do have to install just didnt know if it was instaleld by default thanks
[08:18] <AlexC_> Alpenmilchschoko: use it and see for you're self
[08:18] <dumbalien> can i partition an active windows hd, without aff ecting the files
[08:18] <atomiku> billy: i need to be completely sure
[08:19] <cheeseboy> can someone help me configure mythtv with lirc
[08:19] <cheeseboy> ?
[08:19] <slvmchn> i have two soundcards, but when i boot they randomly get put in order, so sometimes my onboard is /dev/dsp and other times it's dev/dsp1. is there somewhere i can actually assign these? and the volume menu only lets me swith between them, i want to be able to specify which soundcard is /dev/dsp and which is /dev/dsp1
[08:19] <Alpenmilchschoko> AlexC_: i do
[08:19] <apallo> is it possible to make everything in gnome passwordless?
[08:19] <billy> Alpenmilchschoko: geared for those new to Linux.  "Sees" a lot of hardware, and has a huge support group (us).
[08:19] <fwtest> where can i find header file which defines FRIBIDI_CHARSET_UTF8 ?
[08:19] <PriceChild> Alpenmilchschoko, this is a support channel... best to go #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <nekr0z> kny: No, but the settings for video driver are in xorg.conf and system might not run GNOME without reconfiguring xorg if you migrate from NVidia to ATI, for example.
[08:20] <kny> ah, i see. thank you.
[08:20] <Alpenmilchschoko> thanks
[08:20] <cheeseboy> anyone?
[08:20] <kny> would it also work if the host system is virtual, as in vmware, only?
[08:20] <lilrayray> AlexC_: I have read that linux tends to have problems with dualcores.  Anyway, I noticed on 6.06 that, by default, only one core was active, and it worked quite well.  I then installed the 64bit 6.06 and started getting these freezes.  Im running 6.10 i386 and it shows two cores active, and I am getting these freezes
[08:20] <MTec007> nekr0z: i have 6.10 not 6.06
[08:20] <cheeseboy> help
[08:20] <billy> atomicu:  one moment.  I'll see what I can dig up about md5sum/chksum'ing an entire folder.
[08:20] <billy> where's bradford?
[08:20] <AlexC_> cheeseboy: how do you expect us to help if you just go "help" ?
[08:20] <dumbalien> can i partition an active windows hd, without aff ecting the files
[08:21] <maddash> atomicu, billy: why not just tar the folder
[08:21] <slvmchn> i have two soundcards, but when i boot they randomly get put in order, so sometimes my onboard is /dev/dsp and other times it's dev/dsp1. is there somewhere i can actually assign these? and the volume menu only lets me swith between them, i want to be able to specify which soundcard is /dev/dsp and which is /dev/dsp1
[08:21] <cheeseboy> i asked my question twice
[08:21] <cpsalvestrini> dumbalien: yes you can, there's ways to do that
[08:21] <twysted> llilrayray, it almost sounsd like a hardware issue
[08:21] <atomiku> maddash: the folder is like 30gig
[08:21] <Ng> cheeseboy: #mythtv might be a better option
[08:21] <AlexC_> cheeseboy: just ask you're question again, next time, instead of just going "help". I'm not going to go hunting up and down this IRC channel trying to find you're question,
[08:21] <nekr0z> MTec007: Didn't try 6.10 (that machine died in a battle against a cup of coffee), sorry :(
[08:21] <dumbalien> cpsalvestrini - is it difficult , dumbalien = newbie
[08:21] <ChrisGo> kinda windows like it asked for the cd
[08:21] <MTec007> lol
[08:21] <Maul555> cheeseboy:  this is a very busy chan, sometimes you have to repeat your entire and concise question several times, but not so often as to annoy the ops...
[08:22] <halasao> hello all
[08:22] <ChrisGo> lol not good if server is off site
[08:22] <cheeseboy> how do i configure mythtv with lirc?
[08:22] <maddash> atomiku: then grab the "ls" of each directory and "diff" them
[08:22] <halasao> who can tell how to mount ntfs in ubuntu
[08:22] <cpsalvestrini> dumbalien: not at all, unless your partition in MS WinBloze is very full
[08:22] <nekr0z> Have problem with a camera, it used to connect to my laptop OK, but after some update F-Spot says I'm not allowed to access USB device or something like this. I have found in forums, that camera should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules to work good, but mine IS ALREADY there, so I seem to be stuck. Any ideas?
[08:22] <atomiku> maddash: how?
[08:22] <AlexC_> cheeseboy: #mythtv
[08:22] <ChrisGo> can you disable apt-get install from asking for cd?
[08:22] <_F00BaR> hey
[08:22] <_F00BaR> Error: dependancy is not satisfiable: libdbus-1-2
[08:22] <cheeseboy> i tried there
[08:22] <twysted> cheeseboy: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LIRC_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_Eft
[08:22] <AlexC_> !ntfs | halasao
[08:23] <ubotu> halasao: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:23] <_F00BaR> anyone???
[08:23] <_F00BaR> Error: dependancy is not satisfiable: libdbus-1-2
[08:23] <AlexC_> !repeat | _F00BaR
[08:23] <ubotu> _F00BaR: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:23] <dumbalien> cpsalvestrini - would i be better off , reformatting and then dual booting
[08:23] <MTec007> nekr0z: so can i run XCFE from the boot screen?
[08:23] <twysted> _F00BaR what are you trying to install
[08:23] <cpsalvestrini> _F00BaR: What pkg ar you trying to install?
[08:23] <_F00BaR> Xchat
[08:23] <twysted> _F00BaR from source or from a package?
[08:24] <_F00BaR> .deb
[08:24] <twysted> _F00BaR sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:24] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: just go into Synaptic and serach for "xchat"
[08:24] <flake> my desklets didn't start back up, dont know if it would be a good idea to do away with top taskbar in gnome
[08:24] <maddash> atomiku: `ls -l <path to folder>   >  filename ; ls -l <folder2>  > filename 2 ;  diff filename filename2;`
[08:24] <_ant_> heh, so many ways...
[08:24] <cpsalvestrini> try installing the dbus library from synaptic F00BaR
[08:24] <ChrisGo> the packages.ubuntu site just died
[08:24] <|Jason8|> I just reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled ubuntu, but grub didn't come along.  Now when I boot, it gives me a Grub 15 error.  How can I fix this?
[08:24] <ChrisGo> its just really slow my bad
[08:24] <nekr0z> MTec007: Well, XFCE is not supplied on Ubuntu CD. You might install a non-GUI system and apt-get xubuntu-desktop (or try Xubuntu CD :)
[08:24] <_F00BaR> cpsalvestrini link?
[08:25] <Maul555> chrisgo: whew...
[08:25] <ChrisGo> _F00BaR did you try apt-get install libdbus-1-3 ?
[08:25] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: we install software differently in Linux, we don't go to websites and downloading random files, and double clicking on them.
[08:25] <atomiku> maddash: hmm?
[08:25] <_F00BaR> doesnt work
[08:25] <atomiku> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /home/ubuntu/SOURCE   >  filename ; ls -l /home/ubuntu/DEST/  > filename 2 ;  diff filename filename2;
[08:25] <atomiku> ls: 2: No such file or directory
[08:25] <atomiku> diff: filename2: No such file or directory
[08:25] <twysted> AlexC you mean ubuntu ;)
[08:25] <billy> atomiku: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237129&highlight=md5sum
[08:25] <maddash> atomiku: 14:22:40 <atomiku> maddash: how?
[08:25] <atomiku> okay thanks
[08:26] <twysted> _f00BaR what doesnt work
[08:26] <cpsalvestrini> F00BaR: type this on a terminal: sudo apt-get install libdbus-1-3
[08:26] <AlexC_> twysted: other distros have repositories as well =)
[08:26] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: we have a central 'repository' system, that you can access thousands of software by going to "System-->Admin->Synaptic"
[08:26] <_F00BaR> cpsalvestrini, done
[08:27] <_ant_> hey is there a list of "non-official" repos out there?
[08:27] <cpsalvestrini> okay. now try installing xchat
[08:27] <AlexC_> _ant_: my guess is it would be too big a list,
[08:27] <AlexC_> _ant_: anyone can setup their own repo, so, there will be loads
[08:27] <_F00BaR> root@Ubuntu:/# sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:27] <_F00BaR> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <_F00BaR> Building dependency tree
[08:27] <_F00BaR> Reading state information... Done
[08:27] <_F00BaR> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[08:27] <_F00BaR> root@Ubuntu:/#
[08:27] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: stop1
[08:27] <AlexC_> !paste | _F00BaR
[08:27] <ubotu> _F00BaR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <|Jason8|> _F00BaR, try sudo apt-get install x-chat
[08:28] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: why are you root ?
[08:28] <cpsalvestrini> that's a good Q F00BaR
[08:28] <bikini> what do you type into the command line after a command to make it run as a background process.. so that i can close the console without shutting down the program?
[08:28] <AlexC_> bikini: you can just press alt+f2 to "run" it
[08:28] <maddash> bikini: run it with "alt+f2"
[08:28] <lisapc> hi
[08:28] <lisapc> whats the difference between ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[08:28] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[08:29] <cpsalvestrini> F00BaR: Did you check that universe / multiverse repos are enabled?
[08:29] <bikini> maddash: i'm trying to run checkgmail, but its not in my programs list so i open it in the console.
[08:29] <AlexC_> lisapc: one has a LiveCD and the other doesn't. Desktop is the LiveCD version
[08:29] <AlexC_> lisapc: so you can try it before you install
[08:29] <maddash> bikini: my suggestion holds
[08:29] <bikini> wait nevermind
[08:29] <_ant_> AlexC_ : i think foobar needs to add some repos (multi and such)
[08:29] <bikini> sorry about that maddash
[08:29] <|Jason8|> I just reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled ubuntu, but grub didn't come along.  Now when I boot, it gives me a Grub 15 error.  How can I fix this?
[08:29] <flake> can I make the desklets autostart?
[08:29] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[08:30] <AlexC_> flake: System->Prefs->Session->startup
[08:30] <_ant_> AlexC_ : good man, i didn't have that page ready..
[08:30] <billy> dang you're quick AlexC_.
[08:30] <AlexC_> _ant_: =)
[08:31] <_ant_> hes a bot ;P
[08:31] <flake> thanks, brb
[08:31] <AlexC_> billy: it's all this tea I drink ... contains naturally occuring Theaneie which keeps me alert, yet relaxed.  Or what ever the PG Advert says :P
[08:31] <billy> atomiku:  got it yet.
[08:31] <billy> AlexC_ : Theaneie eh?  have to look into it.
[08:32] <AlexC_> billy: theanine
[08:32] <flake> thanks
[08:32] <billy> atomiku: that was a question.  have you been able to do it yet?
[08:32] <_ant_> doesn't sound fda approved..
[08:32] <_ant_> i guess the good stuff never is
[08:32] <cpsalvestrini> lol _ant_ nothing natural is ever fda approved
[08:32] <AlexC_> _ant_: theanine ? http://www.pgtips.co.uk/theaninefacts/ - it's actually very good for you
[08:32] <atomiku> billy: yeah thanks :)
[08:33] <maggi> hi there! i'm trying to build a custom live cd from ubuntu 6.10. all i want is using a patched kernel instead of the one that came with caspar. my problem: after booting caspar from the cd (testing done with VMWare) and chosing my patched kernel, the kernel fails to boot because it isnt able to open /scripts/caspar (message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar") and ends up with a panic. any idea?
[08:33] <Tonren> Can anyone help me with A) getting hibernate to work, B) getting /etc/network/interfaces to get wireless working on boot or C) figuring out why my kicker sometimes crashes on boot?
[08:33] <billy> atomiku:  I think this may have been a simpler option.  `diff -qr dir1 dir2`
[08:33] <aorthr33> does anyone know how to configure gnome to display different backgrounds on the different desktops?
[08:33] <cpsalvestrini> F00BaR: did the apt-get work properly?
[08:33] <_F00BaR> no
[08:33] <AlexC_> aorthr33: afaik, you can't
[08:33] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: did you read the link I gave you?
[08:33] <maddash> Tonren: if "eth1" is your wireless interface, then `su -c 'echo auto eth1 >> /etc/network/interfaces'`
[08:33] <billy> aorthr33; not sure gnome supports that.  maybe though, I'd like to know myself.
[08:34] <_F00BaR> could not find package
[08:34] <aorthr33> AlexC:  Have to go to KDE for that?
[08:34] <AlexC_> aorthr33: Yep, unless XFCE can do it? not sure,
[08:34] <mando> billy: thread is online ... gotta go now ... thx again for helping , hf, bye
[08:34] <billfur> Why would I be getting network unreachable problems on one of my interfaces but not the other when both networks are up and the routing table is setup correctly?
[08:34] <Tonren> maddash: It doesn't work anymore.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2129643
[08:34] <cpsalvestrini> F00BaR: try the same line, but with the following: xchat-gnome xchat-gnome-common
[08:34] <billy> mando : could you give me the link to it?
[08:34] <mando> oh, sure
[08:34] <Tonren> maddash: Whoops, here's the actual link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357265
[08:35] <maddash> Tonren: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:35] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: did you read the link I gave you about extra repositories? you will need to enable those first,
[08:35] <mando> billyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2277311#post2277311
[08:35] <Tonren> maddash: It's in that thread
[08:35] <mando> billy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2277311#post2277311
[08:35] <billy> thanks mando.
[08:35] <mando> I thank YOU
[08:35] <ChrisGo> seriously how do you make ubuntu stop asking for cd on apt-get installs???
[08:35] <mando> see your
[08:35] <NickGarvey> !apt-cd
[08:35] <mando> ya
[08:35] <NickGarvey> nope
[08:35] <nekr0z> cpsalvestrini: the thing is xchat-gnome
[08:35] <NickGarvey> eh I wrote a factoid a while ago
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:35] <billy> looks slick mando.  great work.
[08:35] <NickGarvey> ChrisGo: open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <NickGarvey> and comment out the lines with the cd
[08:36] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: then put a comment ( # )infront of the CD line
[08:36] <AlexC_> NickGarvey: :P
[08:36] <ChrisGo> ty!
[08:36] <ChrisGo> that should be the default on server installs no?
[08:36] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: I hope xhcat isn't default on server installs.
[08:36] <_ant_> lol
[08:36] <AlexC_> s/xhcat/xchat
[08:36] <qos> How do I disable the delayed write cache to a usb 2.0 drive?
[08:36] <mando> billy: thanks ;) - proud that i can possibly help someone too
[08:36] <yango> The following packages will be REMOVED: dvd+rw-tools kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <ChrisGo> im on a win machine
[08:36] <ChrisGo> i do everything remote
[08:36] <mccm> jak przelaczyc sie na polski kanal
[08:37] <StoneNote> ChrisGo, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  you can't save the file as a regular user.  make the change CTRL-O to write the changed fril to disk CTRL-X to exti nano
[08:37] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: why did I mention xChat? Oh god I'm confused now
[08:37] <billy> mando : that's what Ubuntu is all about.  (<-- that's my cheese for the day.) :()
[08:37] <lisapc> will ubuntu need to create another swap partition?  Will it be able to use my D: drive for that? because my C: and E: are full of data and cannot be touched
[08:37] <yango> hi... why does that happen? it seems a bit weird having a dependency on [k] ubuntu-desktop for dvd+rw-tools
[08:37] <billy> lisapc: yes.
[08:37] <_F00BaR> cpsalvestrini, #PR1V
[08:37] <_ant_> AlexC_ : too much theanine..
[08:37] <ramza3> can anyone reply to this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2277330
[08:37] <_ant_> :)
[08:38] <AlexC_> _ant_: haha yeah, damm side effects
[08:38] <joe4444> i just upgraded my RAM and now i'm getting this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:38] <joe4444> sounds like a HDD error, but that doesn't make any sense... all i did was swap the RAM
[08:38] <Maul555> joe4444: are you sure the ram is good?
[08:38] <kalorin> joe
[08:38] <ChrisGo> ok Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? where is the pid file?
[08:38] <kalorin> pull the ram back out and try to boot
[08:38] <maddash> joe4444: initrd
[08:38] <joe4444> not 100% but it's brand new
[08:38] <moti> i start the liferea from applications menu it start and disaper but when i start from the trminal its working any ida how ti fix
[08:39] <Cyrus25801> is there a tut out there that helps you setup a server: I want to be able to create accounts and limit bandwidth and down and up limit's.Windows PC must be able to connect too.  I have searched the Internet but nothing that is very much detail.
[08:39] <AlexC_> joe4444: can you run memtest from the grub screne?
[08:39] <qos> How do I disable the delayed write cache to a usb 2.0 drive?
[08:39] <mirak> is there a way to know if there is a way to boot LVM with grub without sharing /boot on both of the systems ?
[08:39] <mando> billy: see ya !
[08:39] <joe4444> maddash, ?  ...btw i'm kind of new to linux
[08:39] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: hold on,
[08:39] <joe4444> AlexC_, i'll try
[08:39] <mirak> is there a way to boot LVM with grub without sharing /boot on both of the systems ?
[08:39] <billy> mando: take care.  see ya round.
[08:39] <maddash> joe4444: nvm.
[08:39] <Maul555> joe4444: there is also a bootable cd version of memtest thats free for download...
[08:39] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10
[08:39] <maddash> mirak: what's wrong, #debian didn't help?
[08:39] <kalorin> wow, spring is basically here!
[08:39] <_F00BaR> AlexC_, \PR1V
[08:40] <billy> ramza3: you probably have better luck talking to the developers.
[08:40] <_F00BaR> AlexC_, #PR1V
[08:40] <AlexC_> _F00BaR: pardon?
[08:40] <_F00BaR> nvm
[08:40] <|Jason8|> I did some research and my kernel doesn't exist...
[08:40] <mirak> maddash: no
[08:40] <ChrisGo> how do you fix apt-get getting hosed?  Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource tempor
[08:40] <joe4444> running memtest86 from grub...
[08:40] <aorthr33> how about sound: where shoudl I start troubleshooting a sound problem.  I installed Ubuntu 6.10 and on first boot, I got sounds (drums, etc).  but After I did the first (large) round of updates, I get no sound at all...can't play wav files, can't play mp3...   any ideas?
[08:40] <cables> ChrisGo, make sure you're running it with sudo
[08:40] <jake> i have kismet running it has captured 12m of packets from the target ap only 8 Weak keys do i just keep capturing the weak keys and then what
[08:40] <cables> ChrisGo, also close any other package management applications.
[08:41] <ChrisGo> cables what happed was it was looking for cd so i had to hard close it
[08:41] <joe4444> will it take a long time to test 2gb?  the first 2 tests were pretty fast... #3 is crawling
[08:41] <ChrisGo> no i commented the use cd line and need to rerun apt-get and its all jacked up
[08:41] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: sudo apt-get update
[08:41] <cables> ChrisGo, I'm not sure how to fix that
[08:42] <aorthr33> jake:  there is a channel for remote-exploit.org, they would be better equipped to answer your question, I think it's #remote-exploit
[08:42] <Tonren> maddash: any ideas?
[08:42] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: ps ax | grep apt
[08:42] <ChrisGo> i just sudo -u root su and run everything as su lol
[08:42] <maggi> i'm still having trouble booting my custom live cd..
[08:42] <maggi> anyone?
[08:42] <kalorin> only about 1/2 of it
[08:42] <kalorin> :)
[08:42] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: and see if apt-get is still running
[08:42] <inthepit> how do i tell which sound card is what in dev?
[08:42] <Maul555> joe4444: 2gigs...  dunno...
[08:43] <maddash> Tonren: try breaking up the "auto lo wlan0" into "auto lo" and "auto wlan0"
[08:43] <maddash> Tonren: other than that, i'm drawing a blank
[08:43] <joe4444> Maul555, 50% on Test #3 now... "Pass" is just 5% (i guess that's overall)
[08:43] <joe4444> could be a while...
[08:43] <Tonren> maddash: hmmm
[08:43] <Maul555> joe4444:  memtest rarely ever gives a progress bar....  mabey some version does, but i havent seen it.
[08:43] <Cyrus25801> ?
[08:44] <joe4444> Maul555, this one does apparently
[08:44] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: thanx will take a look see
[08:44] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: you're welcom
[08:44] <garuhhh> hi! a using Firestarter, i can't internet doesn't reach the other pc in my network.. help please?
[08:44] <Tonren> Can anyone help me with A) getting hibernate to work, B) getting /etc/network/interfaces to get wireless working on boot or C) figuring out why my kicker sometimes crashes on boot?
[08:44] <Maul555> joe4444:  lol, im not suprised, i havent downloaded a new version in years..
[08:45] <ChrisGo> i killed all of them but they are still there and get error Unable to lock the download directory
[08:45] <rdw200169> stop using firestarter!
[08:45] <garuhhh> sorry mistyped hi! am using firestarter, can't seem to share my internet ...
[08:45] <rdw200169> you gotta make sure that the external interface matches the one you're trying to get internet from
[08:45] <joe4444> wow, i think each test gets progressively slower... i'm going to take a shower
[08:45] <ChrisGo> this is reminding my of windows update
[08:45] <KDan> trying to install 32-bit support in my 64-bit ubuntu.. sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[08:45] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: kill them manually. "sudo kill -9 [processIDhere] " one by one
[08:45] <ChrisGo> ill try rebooting lol
[08:45] <Ben701> I get the message "Package linux-kernel-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[08:45] <Ben701>   linux-libc-dev 2.6.17.1-11.35
[08:45] <Ben701> You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:45] <Ben701> E: Package linux-kernel-headers has no installation candidate
[08:46] <KDan> but i get Errhttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libc6-i386 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.2 404 Not Found
[08:46] <KDan> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.3.6-0ubuntu20.2_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[08:46] <ChrisGo> nekr0z do i need sudo if i am su?
[08:46] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: no
[08:46] <rdw200169> garuhhh, you gotta do a couple things,
[08:46] <garuhhh> rdw: like what? can you guide me please?
[08:46] <rdw200169> garuhhh, first, make sure that everything is networking properly,
[08:46] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: if you really want to reboot, just restart X - ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in
[08:46] <joe4444> ChrisGo, you can just set up aliases for common commands that require sudo... alias useradd='sudo useradd'
[08:47] <garuhhh> rdw: networking is properly cabled
[08:47] <StoneNote> ChrisGo, did you kill a package manger like Synaptic? If so, then it wouldn't get a chance to clear it's HEY I"M RUNNING OVER HERE status which is what's giving you the error
[08:47] <joe4444> but for editing files owned by root i don't think you can avoid sudo
[08:47] <garuhhh> rdw: i can ping one pc or the other.
[08:47] <kanzie> Is there something wrong with the lupine.me.uk-repos? They take forever to update...
[08:47] <rdw200169> garuhhh, if you set DHCP to on, it will assign a 'gateway' ip to your local network interface,
[08:47] <^QDOGG> hello all
[08:47] <AlexC_> hi
[08:47] <ChrisGo> no i am console only but same concept it was froze
[08:47] <^QDOGG> I need a little help
[08:47] <AlexC_> ask away,
[08:47] <rdw200169> garuhhh, then assign ip's in that same subnet to the other computers
[08:47] <ChrisGo> that worked nekr0z
[08:47] <StoneNote> ChrisGo, so you rebooted during the middle of an apt-get upgrade?
[08:47] <garuhhh> rdw: all is static, except the LAN card whrer i get my internet from.
[08:47] <cables> StoneNote, I've had that problem before. How do you clear that?
[08:48] <kitche> kanzie: no sure lupine isn't here right now so he would know :)
[08:48] <rdw200169> garuhhh, i'm talking about networking in the sense of IP addressing
[08:48] <diezare> Guy, do anyone know the name of the package which got the gcc?
[08:48] <garuhhh> rdw: did the subnetting right.
[08:48] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: i was sure about that :)))
[08:48] <diezare> *guys
[08:48] <ChrisGo> StoneNote no it asked me for cd on apt-get install and i punched it in the face
[08:48] <^QDOGG> I am having trouble removing a broken package in synaptic
[08:48] <jrib> diezare: build-essential
[08:48] <^QDOGG> SAMBA
[08:48] <kanzie> kitche, hehe you think ;-)
[08:48] <KDan> trying to install 32-bit support in my 64-bit ubuntu.. sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[08:48] <KDan> but i get Errhttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libc6-i386 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.2 404 Not Found
[08:48] <inthepit> how do i tell which sound card is what in /dev/?
[08:48] <kitche> dieman: gcc is the package
[08:48] <KDan> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.3.6-0ubuntu20.2_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[08:48] <nekr0z> diezare: "gcc"
[08:48] <rdw200169> garuhhh, what needs to happen: you need to be able to ping the shared computer, and vice-versa
[08:49] <garuhhh> rdw: yes i can ping from both pcs..
[08:49] <maddash> inthepit: lspci?
[08:49] <rdw200169> garuhhh, firestarter has a problem with static addressing, so you have to mangle the ipTables rules....
[08:49] <rdw200169> garuhhh, it's not fun
[08:49] <garuhhh> rdw: if i ping google from the client pc... google's ip address shows, but times out..
[08:49] <^QDOGG> this is the eror that I get
[08:49] <garuhhh> rdw: arrrrgghhh... ip table rules?
[08:50] <ChrisGo> how do I installt Package sun-java5-jdk it says not found but i see it in the web packages list
[08:50] <diezare> nekr0z: lol, but i think that there was a complete package for it called build tools, or something clsoe to that?
[08:50] <^QDOGG> E: samba: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:50] <inthepit> doesnt tell me if its dsp, dsp1, etc
[08:50] <jrib> ChrisGo: you need multiverse
[08:50] <garuhhh> rdw: it's what i have been messing around for sometime now! can't seem to get it right...
[08:50] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[08:50] <ChrisGo> jrib at hte end?
[08:50] <jrib> ChrisGo: in your sources.list
[08:50] <jrib> !repos | ChrisGo
[08:50] <ubotu> ChrisGo: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:50] <nekr0z> diezare: build-essential
[08:50] <garuhhh> rdw: can't i do it in firestarter? like what services needs to be allowed...
[08:50] <KDan> !32bit
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <KDan> !32-bit
[08:51] <garuhhh> rdw.. or what sources needs to have connection of what...
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32-bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <diezare> nekr0z: OK, thanks alot.
[08:51] <bruenig> !fishing | KDan
[08:51] <ubotu> KDan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:51] <nekr0z> diezare: but kernel headers need to be installed separately
[08:51] <ArthurB> Hi, I have a bit of a problem with lvm and mdadm
[08:51] <rdw200169> garuhhh, what you are interested in is what iptables has in it's FORWARD table
[08:51] <ArthurB> I don't use raid - at all -
[08:52] <rdw200169> garuhhh, do this, type $sudo iptables-save
[08:52] <garuhhh> rdw: ok... what needs to be forwarded and to where...
[08:52] <rdw200169> this shows you the rules you have right now
[08:52] <ArthurB> but I use LVM... it seems after last upgrade a package called mdadm dealing with raid had problems
[08:52] <ArthurB> it produces warning when installed
[08:52] <garuhhh> rdw... ok i'll do that..
[08:52] <ArthurB> and when I reboot
[08:52] <ArthurB> /dev/mapper isn't found ...
[08:52] <ArthurB> while it still exists (I can chroot in it from a livecd for example)
[08:53] <ArthurB> anyone knows what to do ?
[08:53] <rdw200169> garuhhh, you should see a bunch of stuff in after INPUT, OUTPUT, INBOUND, OUTBOUND, LSI, and LSO
[08:53] <rdw200169> garuhhh, what you want is what's after FORWARD
[08:53] <jeanre> can you show a file stucture in vim on the side?
[08:54] <rdw200169> garuhhh, for ex, mine says "-A FORWARD -p icmp -m limit --limit 10/sec -j ACCEPT"
[08:54] <homerj> push it to the limmit
[08:54] <rdw200169> garuhhh, then "-A FORWARD -j LOG_FILTER"
[08:54] <rdw200169> garuhhh, then "-A FORWARD -j LOG --log-prefix "Unknown Forward" --log-level"
[08:54] <rdw200169> garuhhh, and that's it
[08:55] <garuhhh> rdw... i can't see to understand what i saw! :D there's a whole lot of them!
[08:55] <ChrisGo> i see universe to uncomment in the sources.list but no multiverse do i have to manually add?
[08:55] <rdw200169> garuhhh, with the FORWARD ones?
[08:56] <nekr0z> ChrisGo: check again, it shoud be there. But you can add one as well :)))
[08:56] <garuhhh> ok.. i see forward
[08:56] <AlexC_> ChrisGo: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[08:56] <ChrisGo> AlexC_ I dont have gui
[08:56] <garuhhh> rdw: yes it has FORWARD and finally the j LOG_FILTER
[08:57] <bruenig> ChrisGo, do this: echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:58] <diezare> Does the gcc, work with c++?
[08:58] <bruenig> !info gcc
[08:58] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:58] <ArthurB> use gpp
[08:58] <bruenig> hmm just says c
[08:58] <nekr0z> diezare: g++ does
[08:58] <garuhhh> rdw: in firestarter, the FORWARD service policy seems to be blank
[08:58] <diezare> nekr0z: ok, thanks alot.
[08:58] <garuhhh> rdw: but in the iptables... lots of them!
[08:59] <ChrisGo> bruenig thanks
[08:59] <Cyrus25801> how do i check what version of ubuntu i have
[08:59] <Muffelmuff> hi, can somebody tell me where i can find the ubuntu-alternative-cd-image with kernel 2.6.15-23-386?
[08:59] <freak1> want to install Oracle9i. can anyone help?
[08:59] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, lsb_release -a
[09:00] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: thanx
[09:00] <bruenig> Muffelmuff, all the edgy 32bit images are generic
[09:00] <freak1> yA Cyrus25801 Go in System Tab There is option About Ubuntu
[09:00] <bruenig> Muffelmuff, at least by default, maybe the alternative has some option or something that I didn't see because I wasn't looking for it
[09:01] <charles__> I'm running beryl and for unknow reason ... every "popup window" appear in the back? any idea ?
[09:01] <freak1> want to install Oracle9i .. how can i ?
[09:01] <Tonren> charles__: That happens to me sometimes, too
[09:01] <Gomu_Gomu> g
[09:01] <bruenig> charles__, #ubuntu-effects
[09:01] <bruenig> freak1, what is that
[09:01] <nekr0z> Have problem with a camera, it used to connect to my laptop OK, but after some update F-Spot says I'm not allowed to access USB device or something like this. I have found in forums, that camera should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules to work good, but mine IS ALREADY there, so I seem to be stuck. Any ideas?
[09:02] <_ant_> bruenig is on fire...
[09:02] <Asterodeia> hey there
[09:02] <inthepit> anyone know if the lifecam vx3000 is useable yet?
[09:02] <Cyrus25801> freak1: thanx
[09:02] <freak1> bruenig: oracle9i is database..
[09:02] <Pelo> silly question here ,  if I don't have an nvidia card, I don't actualy need nvidia-kernel-common installed ? right ?
[09:02] <garuhhh> how do i clear everything i've done in iptables?
[09:03] <bruenig> !webcam | inthepit
[09:03] <ubotu> inthepit: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:03] <bruenig> garuhhh, sudo iptables --flush
[09:03] <garuhhh> thanks!
[09:03] <Cyrus25801> i'm reading a tut and it says for version Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server. is there a diffrence between this version and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:04] <Cyrus25801> ?
[09:04] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: Sligtly different kernel.
[09:04] <Pelo> Cyrus25801,  server stuff part of the default install , you think ?
[09:04] <bruenig> freak1, it says on the website how to do it
[09:04] <Muffelmuff> bruenig, i can only find the alternative-cd with kernel 2.6.15.24-386, but i need the kernel 2.6.15-23-386 for crpytsetup and LUKS...
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - when i install ubuntu daper - is there a way to update to feisty automatically?
[09:04] <yaitanes> hello world, have you ever try to cross-compile?
[09:04] <shatrat> denis_on_ubuntu, feisty istn released
[09:04] <bruenig> Muffelmuff, perhaps there isn't any with 23
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> or not feisty - the one before it
[09:04] <denis_on_ubuntu> 6.10
[09:04] <yaitanes> edgy
[09:04] <bruenig> !upgrading | denis_on_ubuntu
[09:04] <ubotu> denis_on_ubuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:05] <denis_on_ubuntu> is there something to type into terminal that will just update it to edgy with one command
[09:05] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: well i want to run a server so can i just update the kernal and how
[09:05] <sa> hi
[09:05] <tiky> ubuntu-es
[09:05] <adrian_> puk puk
[09:05] <bruenig> denis_on_ubuntu, you will need to change your sources.list, but sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a way of doing it
[09:05] <Cyrus25801> sa: sa as in south africa?
[09:05] <inthepit> anyone else have a microsoft lifecam working on ubuntu?
[09:06] <PriceChild> !upgrade | denis_on_ubuntu
[09:06] <tiky> como entro al chat en espaol?
[09:06] <ubotu> denis_on_ubuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:06] <denis_on_ubuntu> so do i have to update sources list first before i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[09:06] <Ng> denis_on_ubuntu: gksu update-manager -c
[09:06] <sa> no mi arab
[09:06] <PriceChild> denis_on_ubuntu, follow the instructinos ubotu gave you
[09:06] <Ng> denis_on_ubuntu: that will offer you an upgrade to edgy
[09:06] <sa> u????
[09:06] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: install linux-image-XXXXXX-server then reboot in this kernel and remove linux-image-XXXXXX-generic
[09:06] <poningru> blargh?
[09:06] <tiky> #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <Cyrus25801> sa: South africa
[09:06] <tuntis> uh
[09:06] <Au{R}oN1> Esto que es?
[09:06] <Au{R}oN1> :S
[09:06] <bruenig> !es
[09:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:06] <PriceChild> tiky, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <Au{R}oN1> !es
[09:06] <tuntis> I have trouble loading gparted
[09:07] <tuntis> it's been "scanning" for 30 minutes
[09:07] <Au{R}oN1> Eh?
[09:07] <Au{R}oN1> xD
[09:07] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: could you pls go into more detail. im a newbie
[09:07] <tuntis> anyways, I'm not sure if I need it, since I've got 10gb of unallocated space in the hard disk I wanna install to
[09:07] <tuntis> can the installer's "basic functions" automatically make use of it?
[09:07] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: You have Synaptic on that system, don't you?
[09:07] <tuntis> uh, I mean unpartitioned
[09:08] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: yes
[09:08] <ArthurB> anyone ?
[09:08] <maggi> i'm still having trouble booting my custom live cd..
[09:08] <maggi> i'm trying to build a custom live cd from ubuntu 6.10. all i want is using a patched kernel instead of the one that came with caspar. my problem: after booting caspar from the cd (testing done with VMWare) and chosing my patched kernel, the kernel fails to boot because it isnt able to open /scripts/caspar (message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar") and ends up with a panic. any idea?
[09:08] <ArthurB> I have LVM but not raid... do I need mdadm ?
[09:08] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: fire it up and look for installed package linux-image-{something}, that's a kernel
[09:09] <Peacefulmunda> can any1 help to mount my fat32 and ntfs partitions in linux
[09:09] <Cyrus25801> !
[09:09] <Peacefulmunda> i mean in ubuntu
[09:09] <Peacefulmunda> :D
[09:09] <bruenig> Muffelmuff, here is a link to the ubuntu package of that kernel you want, seems like you could install ubuntu and then just wget and install this, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-23-386_2.6.15-23.39_i386.deb
[09:09] <Jowi> !mount | Peacefulmunda
[09:09] <ubotu> Peacefulmunda: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:10] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: you'll see this package name ending with "-generic", that is, a kernel for ordinary system. There's another one, with same number, but ending with "-server"
[09:10] <Peacefulmunda> i dont know how to use the command line
[09:10] <Peacefulmunda> i am new to ubuntu
[09:10] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: That one is for servers, you need to install it.
[09:10] <Jowi> Peacefulmunda, then the first you need is this
[09:10] <Jowi> !commands | Peacefulmunda
[09:10] <ubotu> Peacefulmunda: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:10] <Peacefulmunda> Jowi: okay
[09:10] <inthepit> anyone else have a lifecam vx3000?
[09:11] <Tonren> Peacefulmunda: It's intimidating at first, but it starts to make a lot of sense after a week or two.
[09:11] <reap> does anyone knoe if there is an installatioin of ubuntu that has an edited xorg so that my video doesnt come up all messed up
[09:11] <Peacefulmunda> wat do u mean by the exclamation mark?
[09:11] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: After you do, reboot, and you'll have option, which kernel to load. Choose a server one.
[09:11] <bruenig> !repeat | inthepit you will probably get more help on something so specific as that in the forums
[09:11] <ubotu> inthepit you will probably get more help on something so specific as that in the forums: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:11] <Tonren> reap: Most often, you need to edit it manually.
[09:11] <reap> i cant use the liveCD or alternate installations on 6.10 or 6.06\
[09:11] <maggi> reap: you could try building a custom live cd
[09:11] <maggi> i'm on it myself
[09:11] <bruenig> !ubotu | Peacefulmunda, he was triggering ubotu, see
[09:11] <ubotu> Peacefulmunda, he was triggering ubotu, see: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:11] <reap> how difficult is that to do?
[09:11] <maggi> ...withou success, so far :D
[09:11] <jamison_>  #ubuntu
[09:11] <reap> lmao
[09:11] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: Then fire up Synaptic again and remove the unneeded generic kernel. That's it.
[09:12] <reap> i guess i have no choice if i want to ever get ubuntu installed
[09:12] <freak1> want to install Oracle9i how can i ?
[09:12] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: cool but there are more than one that says server
[09:12] <maggi> i dont think so
[09:12] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: well i am new to irc as well and dont know much abt it
[09:12] <maggi> you could install it in text-mode
[09:12] <Peacefulmunda> but i really want to switch to linux
[09:12] <bruenig> Peacefulmunda, right so I am telling you
[09:12] <Flosoft> hey
[09:12] <Flosoft> how do I enable MP3 support in Rhythmbox?
[09:12] <Peacefulmunda> i am listening ...
[09:12] <maggi> and install proper graphic card drivers afterwards
[09:12] <bruenig> Peacefulmunda, if you set it up right in the installer, you should have been able to have them mounted already by default
[09:13] <bruenig> !quicktime | Flosoft
[09:13] <ubotu> Flosoft: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:13] <reap> maggi, the problem i have is as soon as it goes into graphical mode everything on the screen is corrupt and town looking
[09:13] <reap> torn*
[09:13] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: sure, they are different versions and for different systems. Yours should be the same as in installed generic one.
[09:13] <Jowi> Flosoft you install the codecs. see the restrictedformats page above.
[09:13] <Flosoft> ok
[09:13] <Peacefulmunda> man there was somthing like install to the largest free portion and i selected that
[09:13] <Peacefulmunda> apart from that there was no other options to configure the hard disk ...
[09:14] <_ant_> heh
[09:14] <maggi> reap: msg
[09:14] <jamison_> Does anyone know how to get out of full screen mode in VMWare
[09:14] <maggi> strg+alt+escape
[09:15] <joe4444> ok, looks like memtest found a problem with the RAM: "Unexpected Interrupt - Halting" then it shows a bunch of stuff that looks like memory addresses
[09:15] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: Read a comment that Synaptic provides for every package to understand the whole idea a bit closer.
[09:15] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: so if the one installed now is "kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386" then i should choose "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on Server Equipment" (but there is also one that is called big iron)
[09:15] <joe4444> so one of these sticks could be bad?
[09:15] <bruenig> Peacefulmunda, I am not very good with fstab which is what is required to get them to mount automatically. I have some rudimentary knowledge of it but I have yet to get into the specifics of UID and all the other nuances, but if you want to mount something in general you would do something like this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /path/to/mount/point" for fat32 at least which is what you said one of your partitions is
[09:15] <reap> maggi, msg?
[09:15] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: so if the one installed now is "kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386" then i should choose "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on Server Equipment" (but there is also one that is called big iron)
[09:15] <Maul555> joe4444:  boot with just one stick, and then the other...  youll find the problem stick..
[09:15] <maggi> query..
[09:15] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: Yes, exactly. Your system isn't BigIron, is it?
[09:16] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: thats a lot of help man
[09:16] <joe4444> k, one sec
[09:16] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: thumbs up :D
[09:16] <reap> !nvidia
[09:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:16] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: ill try that
[09:16] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: i see thanx a stack man
[09:16] <bruenig> Peacefulmunda, you  need to know /dev/whatever and /mount/point, although you can just choose the /mount/point wherever you want it to be so long as it is an empty directory
[09:16] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: You're welcome! ;-)
[09:18] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: ahan
[09:18] <Joboo> need help with an error installing google earth - how do i fix this issue:  "E: The package googleearth needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:18] <Joboo> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report."
[09:18] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: man do u knoe how to use the disk option from the admistrative menu?
[09:18] <maggi> i'm still having trouble with my live cd :<
[09:18] <Byan> is there a way to enable netbios name resolving in linux?
[09:18] <maggi> i'm trying to build a custom live cd from ubuntu 6.10. all i want is using a patched kernel instead of the one that came with caspar. my problem: after booting caspar from the cd (testing done with VMWare) and chosing my patched kernel, the kernel fails to boot because it isnt able to open /scripts/caspar (message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar") and ends up with a panic. any idea?
[09:18] <Tonren> How do I mount an "ace" archive as a cdrom image?  Can I?
[09:18] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: i went there and there was a button saying activate
[09:18] <maggi> Tonren: nope, afaik
[09:19] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: i tried to active but it didnt
[09:19] <maggi> ace isnt GPLed...
[09:19] <Tonren> maggi: Hmm.. ok, how do I extract it?  do I need to install some kinda stupid package?
[09:19] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: But indeed, the generic and server kernels are the same, just tuned differently (one for server performance, another one for ordinary system). They both would work on a server in fact :))))
[09:19] <maggi> yes
[09:19] <maggi> called "unace"
[09:19] <Tonren> maggi: thanks
[09:19] <Peacefulmunda> bruengi: and there was this text box  which was empty and said somthing like link to:
[09:19] <maggi> apt-get install unace
[09:20] <kharloss> can i use PHP4 and PHP5 simultan ?
[09:20] <_ant_> boy, i've learned a bookful just in the past 30 minutes
[09:20] <maggi> cool
[09:20] <dumbalien> !help: is it worth installing ubuntu so i can try beryl, if my comp is a P3-2Ghz 256mb ram and 32mb Nvidia geforce ???
[09:20] <maggi> can you help me? :D
[09:20] <Joboo> what does deb stand for?
[09:21] <Joboo> .deb
[09:21] <ArthurB> debian
[09:21] <bruenig> no more executing for the group
[09:21] <rwx--r--r> debain
[09:21] <Joboo> How do you install a downloaded deb file?
[09:21] <nekr0z> _ant_: That's what I like about sitting here. Didn't solve my own problem, but gained a lot anyway :)))
[09:21] <ArthurB> dpkg
[09:21] <bruenig> Joboo, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:21] <Joboo> thanks
[09:21] <_ant_> nekr0z : your time will come.. just wait for the right geek.
[09:22] <_ant_> he's idling in here somewhere
[09:22] <Maul555> what does "sudo dpkg -i *.*" mean?
[09:22] <nekr0z> _ant_: That's exactly what I'm doing :)))
[09:22] <bruenig> Maul555, nothing, asterisks are wild card character, so it would have dpkg try to install anything that has a dot in it
[09:22] <dumbalien> help: is it worth installing ubuntu so i can try beryl, if my comp is a P3-2Ghz 256mb ram and 32mb Nvidia geforce ???
[09:22] <_ant_> and help a couple of easy ones along the way
[09:22] <ArthurB> super user call the dpkg program to install every package you find in the current directory
[09:23] <jrib> Joboo: just double click on it, make sure it is for your version of ubuntu and is not in the ubuntu repos already
[09:23] <Maul555> ok... i used asteriks on purpose because i know that... i was referring to the rest of it...
[09:23] <mynikkie> hi
[09:23] <kitche> dumbalien: that is really up to you to decide if it's worth it or not but beryl can run fine on that system
[09:23] <maggi> dumbalien: msg
[09:23] <bruenig> Maul555, oh, sudo is super user, dpkg is the  debian package manager, -i is the flag that means install
[09:23] <dumbalien> maggi: msg??
[09:23] <Tonren> maggi: wtf... "unace l" works fine, but when I "unace e": File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible.
[09:24] <Maul555> ahh, coo
[09:24] <maggi> yes
[09:24] <maggi> i encountered that problem too
[09:24] <maggi> unace does not seem to be compatible to all ace-versions
[09:24] <bruenig> it is all very logical if you take the time to understand it
[09:24] <Tonren> maggi: That's completely lame.  What do I do?
[09:25] <Maul555> bruenig: yeah, there is just so much...
[09:25] <maggi> i used my original win32 version to extract the files...
[09:25] <maggi> did it via VMWare
[09:25] <Tonren> maggi: in wine?  where can I download it?
[09:25] <Tonren> gahhh
[09:26] <maggi> you dont need a VM partition
[09:26] <maggi> VMWare Server is just a program for linux
[09:26] <Godsey> I'm pretty new, is there an easy way to rebuild the mysql-server package w/ ssl support?
[09:26] <maggi> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[09:26] <maggi> you can donwnload and use it for free
[09:26] <Tonren> maggi: But don't you need Windows?
[09:27] <maggi> you do
[09:27] <Tonren> maggi: My disc isn't with me.  :\
[09:27] <maggi> mmh
[09:27] <Maul555> maggi: this is a linux room....... .... ...
[09:27] <maggi> >:)
[09:27] <Cyrus25801> how do i install ubuntu 6.06 with a spcific kernel
[09:27] <reap> lol
[09:27] <sbn> Hi
[09:27] <maggi> torren
[09:27] <Tonren> maggi: yeeeeees?
[09:27] <reap> ya i thought hte point of coming here was to escape MS
[09:27] <Tonren> reap: You can never escape MS.  :\
[09:27] <reap> gah
[09:27] <reap> dont i know
[09:28] <sbn> Can you use your external harddisk as installing device?
[09:28] <Maul555> windows is off topic, unless your trying to run windows apps in linux or something
[09:28] <Tonren> Maul555: That's what we're trying to do, dude.
[09:28] <maggi> there are pre-built appliances
[09:28] <Tonren> Maul555: In fact, VMWare Server is trying to run WINDOWS in Linux.
[09:28] <conq\afk> download page http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-installer-1.0.2-39867.exe
[09:28] <maggi> :D
[09:28] <maggi> maul
[09:28] <conq\afk> lolz :)
[09:28] <Tonren> So how am I going to unace this ace archive?!
[09:28] <kitche> !vmware
[09:28] <maggi> i'm on unix for a looooooooooooong time
[09:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:28] <rdw200169> still there, garuhhh?
[09:29] <Maul555> ahh... i didnt connect the dots, i saw the thing about vmware, i thought it was a diffent convo..
[09:29] <conq\afk> download is zip page http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-win32-client-1.0.2-39867.zip
[09:29] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: The most suitable kernel is automatically chosen during an installation. You may wish to change it afterwards.
[09:29] <conq\afk> download is sex page www.sexshowroom.com :)
[09:29] <sbn> Can you use your external harddisk as installing device?
[09:29] <maggi> lol
[09:29] <conq\afk> unable to web ;)
[09:29] <Maul555> conq\afk:  ????????
[09:30] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: so i can't install the server kernel while instaling?
[09:30] <finer> where are the kernel headers for ubuntu (kernel version 2.6)?
[09:30] <shatrat> sbn, yes, theres a how-to on help.ubuntu.com i think?
[09:30] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: No. Unless you use Server CD.
[09:30] <conq\afk> Maul555 ?
[09:30] <conq\afk> talk ;)
[09:30] <sbn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:30] <sbn> I guess
[09:30] <Cyrus25801> nek
[09:30] <Maul555> conq\afk:  lol > <conq\afk> download is sex page www.sexshowroom.com :)
[09:30] <Cyrus25801> nekr0z: thanx again
[09:31] <conq\afk> you lolz ;)
[09:31] <nekr0z> finer: linux-headers-[something] 
[09:31] <kitche> !coc | conq\afk
[09:31] <ubotu> conq\afk: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:31] <conq\afk> random web page
[09:31] <nekr0z> Cyrus25801: welcome again :)))
[09:31] <maggi> anyone able to help me with building my own custom ubuntu live cd?
[09:31] <conq\afk> kitche you coc
[09:31] <comosicus> need to find user list on a channel?
[09:31] <dumbalien> how do i install ubuntu on a hd that already has windows on it
[09:31] <Squee> Are there any issues with dual booting vista + ubuntu or extra steps?
[09:32] <conq\afk> /ignore -cw kitche
[09:32] <maggi> nope
[09:32] <maggi> @ Squee
[09:32] <conq\afk> ;)
[09:32] <Squee> maggi: ok thanks
[09:32] <PriceChild> !offtopic | conq\afk
[09:32] <ubotu> conq\afk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:32] <bruenig> !dualboot
[09:32] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:32] <conq\afk> what?
[09:33] <beasty> !nvidia bug
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia bug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <maggi> you also got a trigger for custom live CDs? :\
[09:33] <maggi> i'm trying to build a custom live cd from ubuntu 6.10. all i want is using a patched kernel instead of the one that came with caspar. my problem: after booting caspar from the cd (testing done with VMWare) and chosing my patched kernel, the kernel fails to boot because it isnt able to open /scripts/caspar (message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar") and ends up with a panic. any idea?
[09:33] <jrib> !customlivecd | maggi
[09:33] <ubotu> maggi: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:33] <conq\afk> /load -rs c:\program files\mirc\scripts\casper\page
[09:33] <jrib> yes :)
[09:33] <maggi> okay then
[09:33] <maggi> it doesnt work!
[09:33] <maggi> what now?
[09:33] <nekr0z> A camera used to connect to my laptop OK, now after some update F-Spot says I'm not allowed to access USB device or something like this. I have found in forums, camera should be in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules to work, mine IS ALREADY there, I seem to be stuck. Any ideas?
[09:34] <maggi> the tutorial does not discribe using a different kernel with the live cd
[09:34] <conq\afk> //say $$mircdir
[09:34] <maggi> hey?
[09:34] <maggi> jrib
[09:35] <maggi> i saw that guid myself
[09:35] <aigarius> here is a new problem. OpenOffice + MS TTF core fonts. Worked fine untile sometime this week. Now random fonts disappear from my document. As in the text is still there and shows up, if I change the font, but that specific font shows as blank even in the font chooser. Export to PDF somehow has the tendency to trigger which fonts are affected at the particular moment.
[09:35] <maggi> guide
[09:35] <maggi> it's not what i want to do
[09:35] <maggi> i want to use a different kernel
[09:35] <esshark> hi - will be in the ubuntu 7.04 the current nvidia driver?
[09:36] <PriceChild> esshark, #ubuntu+1 please. And it include 9631
[09:36] <sbn> I'm having problems with the desktop cd
[09:36] <sbn> IT doesn't load X on my pc
[09:37] <TheMonkeyMoo> so has anyone had any luck getting a UPEK touchchip fingerprint scanner working?
[09:37] <maggi> lol you guys are funny -.-
[09:37] <PriceChild> sbn, tried safe graphics mods?
[09:37] <rdw200169> i'm curious what everyone here thinks:
[09:37] <maggi> dont post me links to tutorials
[09:37] <PriceChild> sbn,  *mode
[09:37] <maggi> i need help
[09:37] <_ant_> nekr0z : you there?
[09:37] <rdw200169> does Ubuntu need an Ubuntu-specific firewall administration tool?
[09:37] <nekr0z> _ant_: yep
[09:37] <PriceChild> rdw200169, No. All ports are closed by default. Use firewall or guarddog to manage it
[09:37] <maggi> firestarter
[09:38] <_ant_> nekr0z : i once had a permissions problem with my camera and this is what i did http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=428146
[09:38] <PriceChild> rdw200169, maggi yeah firestarter sorry :P
[09:38] <kitche> or plain iptables
[09:38] <sbn> PriceChild yes I did
[09:38] <finer> i have a centrino CPU, so i installed i686 kernel. should i keep the i386 version, or is there no value?
[09:38] <nekr0z> _ant_: tnx, I;ll have a look.
[09:38] <jrib> maggi: I have no idea about your issue, you just asked if there was a factoid so I showed you, hope you sort it out
[09:38] <rdw200169> what about something similar to how OS X does their firewall
[09:39] <Tonren> Is there a way to unAce an Ace archive OTHER than unace, without using VMWare or a windows partition? anyone know?
[09:39] <maggi> :\
[09:39] <maggi> okay
[09:39] <kitche> rdw200169: linux doesn't have a tool like *BSD tool at least fromw hat I have seen
[09:39] <maggi> it doesnt make any sense
[09:39] <Jowi> maggi, you can not change kernel on the live cd. but you can after you've installed the system (or create your own live cd somehow)
[09:39] <jrib> Tonren: why?  out of curiousity
[09:39] <rdw200169> but it can
[09:39] <Tonren> jrib: I really want to play Fallout, but I lost my disc and the download is an Ace archive
[09:39] <maggi> Jowi: this is what i did...
[09:39] <coco> uit
[09:39] <_ant_> nekr0z : use lsusb to find the device # then use chmod go+w /proc/bus/usb/bus#/device#
[09:39] <TheMonkeyMoo> finer: I believe you want either the smp kernel or i386 generic. I am running i386 generic on my centrino
[09:39] <Errhec> hi anybody knov how to set the dual screen on radeon 9200 from boot on?
[09:39] <jrib> Tonren: right, but why don't you use unace?
[09:40] <maggi> as i said, the kernel wont boot correctly and ends up with a panic
[09:40] <_ant_> nekr0z : it is not a permanent fix but will let you use it when you need it
[09:40] <Tonren> jrib: Apparently it's not compatible with the particular Ace I downloaded
[09:40] <rdw200169> from my experience, firewalling in linux, even with firestarter, has been an absolute pain, which i think should be solved
[09:40] <jrib> Tonren: do you have unace-nonfree?
[09:40] <Tonren> jrib: Er, um... no.
[09:40] <maggi> the error message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar"
[09:40] <kitche> rdw200169: it's as easy as *BSD firewalling probably even easier but firestarter is just a frontend really to iptables
[09:41] <Jowi> maggi, try with and without initrd
[09:41] <jeanre> why does mysql not create a tmp/mysql.sock?
[09:41] <Tonren> jrib: It's not in any of my repos
[09:41] <rdw200169> kitche: oh, i know, but it has a bunch of major flaws
[09:41] <jrib> !info unace-nonfree | Tonren
[09:41] <ubotu> tonren: Package unace-nonfree does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:41] <maggi> without initrd? is that possible?
[09:41] <Tonren> Yeah, see?
[09:41] <nekr0z> _ant_: a permanent one would sound more nice :( but thank you anyway...
[09:41] <jrib> heh, I'm on feisty, give me a sec
[09:41] <maggi> it contains important kernel drivers...
[09:41] <Tonren> jrib: I'm on Edgy
[09:41] <colbert> Hi guys I am confused about my Power Management, I have set my computer to Hibernate after 30 mins and when I come home twice now, I press power button and it goes right back on in Ubuntu, everything is fine except my USB mouse never works ????
[09:41] <Tonren> jrib: How is Feisty, btw?
[09:42] <_ant_> nekr0z : you could use that script or write your own but otherwise, sorry
[09:42] <nekr0z> _ant_: god, the thing worked like a dream 2 weeks ago!!!
[09:42] <rdw200169> kitche: i'm not proposing a replacement of iptables, just a better, Ubuntu-specific, mDNS friendly, solution
[09:42] <Jowi> maggi, no it is a temp filesystem
[09:42] <maggi> i know
[09:42] <_ant_> nekr0z : oh, mine never worked...
[09:42] <maggi> so
[09:42] <maggi> how do i boot without it?
[09:42] <_ant_> nekr0z : i have to type those two lines everytime i want to use it
[09:43] <jrib> Tonren: nice, some nifty new features.  What's the exact error message from unace?
[09:44] <nekr0z> _ant_: wonder why you still keep using it. I would smash the thing after 10th time :))))
[09:44] <rdw200169> something that can set up complex routing, and implement the firewalling to go with :)
[09:44] <WC`> quick question about restarting gnome
[09:44] <maggi> but Jowi: i'm using that kernel (and initrd) right now!
[09:44] <rdw200169> for example, dual gateways, or multiple lan's
[09:44] <jrib> Tonren: you could try running unace in wine
[09:44] <maggi> it just does not work for the live-cd
[09:44] <WC`> occasionally my menus freeze, so i restart gnome with ctrl alt backspace
[09:44] <_ant_> nekr0z : well to be honest i dont use my cam very much, i have to save those commands to a text file so i remember them
[09:44] <WC`> when i log in again
[09:44] <WC`> i have no menus
[09:44] <Jowi> maggi, you said you got panic.
[09:45] <maggi> yes
[09:45] <alber73> hello
[09:45] <WC`> also, all my other programs have terminated
[09:45] <WC`> how do i get my menus back?
[09:45] <maggi> ...when i boot the kernel off the live-cd
[09:45] <eNeSKa> #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <Tonren> jrib: http://pastie.caboo.se/46064
[09:45] <ubuntu_> hey...i'm helping out at an installfest, and someone wants me to get their modem to work...i think it's working (i can use it to dial my phone number), but I'm getting "No answer" from their isp's phone # (afaict), anyone know where I can get a free account to test this modem?
[09:45] <Tonren> jrib: Where do I get it?  download.com or somethin'?
[09:45] <Jowi> maggi, so it works fine on your installed system but not when burned to cd?
[09:45] <maggi> right
[09:45] <shadedream> wow
[09:45] <shadedream> lots of people in channel here ;)
[09:45] <Jowi> maggi, that is a tad stranger.
[09:46] <maggi> :D
[09:46] <jrib> Tonren: winace.com is what I would try
[09:46] <maggi> i mounted the squashfs to see wether the file is at the right place
[09:46] <shadedream> anyone by any chance have any experience installing ubuntu on a sparc?
[09:46] <maggi> ...it is :\
[09:46] <maggi> so strange..
[09:46] <jrib> Tonren: they seem to have 2.5 for linux on their home page too
[09:46] <Tonren> jrib: Hmm
[09:46] <reap> .
[09:47] <maggi> the kernel is patched, maybe this has something to do with it?
[09:47] <Tonren> jrib: Thanks for the tip
[09:47] <_ant_> !sparc
[09:47] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[09:47] <maggi> the dangerous reiser4 patch...
[09:47] <shadedream> ahh I'll have a look there _ant_ I've been trolling around some forums etc and no luck with my issue =\
[09:48] <shadedream> actually...
[09:48] <shatrat> maggi, how dangerous? does it kill its wife?
[09:48] <PriceChild> shatrat, not in here...
[09:48] <rwx--r--r> i want to install Oracle9i how can i install? is anyone
[09:48] <maggi> :D
[09:48] <maggi> shatrat: maybe
[09:49] <Ng> rwx--r--r: oracle comes with pretty complete install instructions, and google can help you find debian/ubuntu specific instructions
[09:49] <_ant_> !oracle
[09:49] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[09:49] <Smog_21> Hola
[09:49] <_ant_> well look at that...
[09:49] <jeanre> dont you love it when mysql fails to start
[09:49] <Jowi> maggi, you might want to try it on a different pc. or do you have only modules included that fits the machine you're on now? might be specific to your hardware somehow..
[09:49] <maggi> yes, maybe
[09:50] <Smog_21> Hello, it is my first time here in Ubuntu IRC Chat
[09:50] <rwx--r--r> okIE _ant_
[09:50] <maggi> i'll try it on a different pc
[09:50] <maggi> give me a sec
[09:50] <Jowi> maggi, you get any more info other than "panic.."?
[09:50] <maggi> yes
[09:50] <maggi> ah
[09:50] <nekr0z> _ant_: hmmm... have you found the script that mounts the whole thing, like /etc/rc.d/rc.udev they got in Slack? I think I know the bug there... Just came over an idea.
[09:50] <maggi> i tried it with VMWare
[09:50] <maggi> ...only
[09:50] <shadedream> _ant_:  are you familiar with sparc installation beyond directing me to that link? ;)
[09:50] <maggi> but the stock kernel works fine
[09:50] <Smog_21> Can somebody tell me where is the irc in spanish lanaguage?
[09:51] <posingaspopular> !es
[09:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:51] <shadedream> I am unaware of which disk driver to select on installation for it to recognize my HDDs and am not finding anything telling me
[09:51] <_ant_> nekr0z : i didn't even play with it, dont use cam much and was content with the two liner to use it
[09:51] <Smog_21> Thank you
[09:51] <_ant_> nekr0z : but that is cool
[09:51] <shadedream> the generic and ide-generics did not work
[09:51] <_ant_> nekr0z : if you get one to work (permanently) will you share?
[09:51] <h3h_timo> is there any advantage of installing a new gtk engine???
[09:51] <maggi> Jowi: message: "/init: .: 124: Can't open /scripts/caspar"
[09:52] <maggi> Jowi: the only error showing up..
[09:52] <Smog_21> #ubuntu-es
[09:52] <euclid__> is there a file that logs the boot messages as they appear to us?
[09:52] <nekr0z> _ant_: I see... I'll report back if I dig anything out, sure. Thanks for that link, it brought me to think (finally!!!:))))
[09:52] <maggi> directly after the kernel successfully mounted the root filesystem
[09:52] <jeanre> hmmm
[09:52] <_ant_> :)
[09:52] <posingaspopular> Smog_21: /j #ubuntu-ed
[09:52] <Smog_21> Jope!!! What is the correct order to change to ubuntu-es?
[09:53] <posingaspopular> Smog_21: sorry" /j #ubuntu-es "
[09:53] <joe4444> ok, i changed my BIOS settings to use my RAM as DDR333 instead of DDR400 and it seems fine now... i'm thinking i might need to update my BIOS to take advantage of DDR400, but this mobo is way out of date... anyone know where i could find old bios updates?
[09:53] <Smog_21> What have i to type to go to Ubuntu-es?
[09:53] <PriceChild> Smog_21, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:53] <posingaspopular> !es | Smog_21
[09:53] <ubotu> Smog_21: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:53] <Ng> joe4444: the website of the manufacturer
[09:53] <Smog_21> thank you price
[09:53] <posingaspopular> !join
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <joe4444> Ng, well it's been discontinued a long time so i couldn't find any info at all on their website
[09:54] <joe4444> i know there are driver database websites... anything like that for BIOS firmware?
[09:55] <Ng> joe4444: normally I'd expect to find even old things in their support section or on their ftp site. I wouldn't want to upgrade my BIOS with something I found on a random site ;/
[09:55] <_ant_> Ng : good advise
[09:55] <joe4444> Ng, maybe they have an ftp i didn't see before... it's an off-brand i got from a friend so it seems their support isn't the best
[09:56] <joe4444> i guess DDR333 isn't too bad tho if i can't fix it
[09:56] <joe4444> probably wouldn't even notice a difference considering i just went from 512mb to 2gb =)
[09:57] <dimeotane> is there  a terminal command to list the capabilities of my burner?
[09:57] <dimeotane> I want to find out what burn speeds and media it can do
[09:57] <Jowi> maggi, I've never used caspar. No idea what that is about.
[09:58] <maggi> caspar is the loader on the ubuntu-live cd
[09:58] <maggi> it boots up the kernel
[09:58] <euclid__> is there are file with the messages from boot but not like the /var/log/messages, that seems to be too full of detailed information?
[09:58] <PriceChild> dimeotane, it should say so on the front of the burner?
[09:58] <colorred> euclid__: dmesg
[09:58] <kEyiF> ananz siksem olurmu acaba :)
[09:58] <_ant_> PriceChild : lol
[09:58] <Maul555> billy:  i think my computer hates that script
[09:58] <kEyiF> ananz siksem olurmu acaba :)
[09:59] <kEyiF> ananz siksem olurmu acaba :)
[09:59] <kEyiF> ananz siksem olurmu acaba :)
[09:59] <colorred> kEyiF: ...
[09:59] <billy> Maul555 : what makes you say that?
[09:59] <Maul555> billy:  i got errors on compiling
[09:59] <dimeotane> PriceChild: doesn't show speeds
[09:59] <sebrock> Need help getting devilspie to work... it does give output in term but does nothing to my windows
[09:59] <euclid__> colorred, these look just as detailed... i wanted to see just those messages that we can see on screen...
[09:59] <billy> Maul555 : what are you compiling?
[09:59] <arrummzen> Does Ubuntu have a TUI program for adding and removing users?
[09:59] <Maul555> nvidia driver...  usign the envy script
[10:00] <gubluntu> anyone here can help me with an OSS install of zimbra on ubuntu
[10:00] <gubluntu> ?
[10:00] <rowland> Folks, just installed Feisty.  Nvidia glx.  says insert CD but hangs/stalls.  What to do???
[10:00] <Maul555> rowland:  dump fiesty
[10:00] <Maul555> !!!
[10:00] <PriceChild> !feisty > rowland (support in #ubuntu+1 )
[10:00] <jeanre> how do I use apt-get to remove a package and its configus?
[10:00] <maggi> arrummzen: you meant a _GUI_ tool & yes
[10:00] <gubluntu> apt-get remove pacakge
[10:00] <billy> Maul555 : post the error.
[10:00] <Lamego> gubluntu, depends on your question :)
[10:00] <arrummzen> maggi, can it be run without X11?
[10:01] <billy> Maul555 : if it isn't too long.
[10:01] <Lamego> jeanre,  apt-get --purge remove package
[10:01] <maggi> arrummzen: it wouldnt be a _GUI_ tool then... ;)
[10:01] <arrummzen> maggi, I didn't ask for a GUI tool!
[10:01] <arrummzen> I asked for a TUI tool...
[10:01] <Maul555> yeah, umm... errr... give me a min...
[10:01] <sebrock> devilspie devilspie devilspie :D
[10:01] <arrummzen> Text User Interface...
[10:02] <gubluntu> lamego, seemed like everything was going off without a hithc.. final steps of configuration i get: Initializing ldap...daemon: bind(7) failed errno=99 (Cannot assign requested address)
[10:02] <gubluntu> slap_open_listener: failed on ldap://mymail.com:389
[10:02] <gubluntu> ERROR - failed to start slapd
[10:02] <rowland> Anyone know a PERMANENT fix for  2nd gen iPod in Edgy
[10:02] <PriceChild> arrummzen, adduser ?
[10:02] <borisyeltsin> So I have a whole bunch of receipts I want to scan in and track in some system. Any recommendations on a system to use?
[10:02] <PriceChild> rowland, fix for what?
[10:02] <jeanre> and reconfigure it?
[10:02] <Tonren> Grr... Fallout ALMOST works
[10:02] <arrummzen> maggi, a TUI program is a tool that runs in text mode but it isn't "command line", something like midnight commander is TUI.
[10:02] <maggi> ah okay
[10:02] <maggi> no
[10:02] <jeanre> because I remove the /etc/mysql dir
[10:02] <maggi> :D
[10:02] <arrummzen> PriceChild, I was looking for something a bit more advanced than that...
[10:02] <maggi> afaik
[10:02] <PriceChild> arrummzen, Sorry :)
[10:02] <n-iCe> How can I install automatix ?
[10:03] <n-iCe> To install swift
[10:03] <gubluntu> n-ice, you dont
[10:03] <jeanre> and reinstalling mysql does not recreate it
[10:03] <Lamego> gubluntu, that error usually means you are trying to use an IP address which is not set on any of your network interfaces
[10:03] <PriceChild> !automatix | n-iCe
[10:03] <ubotu> n-iCe: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:03] <arooni> folks
[10:03] <_ant_> arrummzen : i think the word is console based no?
[10:03] <n-iCe> !install
[10:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:03] <arooni> i have a folder /etc/asterisk that i cant access .... it says 'persmission denied' when i try to cd to it
[10:03] <arooni> any ideas?
[10:03] <n-iCe> gubluntu,  why not
[10:04] <n-iCe> PriceChild, a terminal command ? do you have one ?
[10:04] <maggi> arooni, you need to be root
[10:04] <gubluntu> lamego, im behind a firewall, with an external ns pointing to my external ip of the router with correct ports forwarded... how do i add my external ip to my interface without messing my network setup
[10:04] <arooni> maggi: ok how can i do this
[10:04] <_ant_> arroni : i have had that problem, i did a su -i to get a root prompt and then did what i had to do...
[10:04] <ddude> hello all
[10:04] <jeanre> anyone?
[10:04] <n-iCe> !swiftfox
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <gubluntu> n-ice.. sorry.. i have had bad experiances with automatix a long time ago..
[10:04] <n-iCe> gubluntu,  why ?
[10:04] <maggi> arooni, "sudo <your command>" executes this command as root
[10:04] <jeanre> how do I get apt to recreate the /etc/mysql dir with files?
[10:04] <n-iCe> Then how can I install swift ?
[10:04] <pyrohotdog> Anyone know why Gnomebaker won't show mp3's? I have lame installed...
[10:04] <arooni> _ant_: it said.... invalid command (-i)
[10:04] <gubluntu> !swift
[10:04] <arooni> to sudo
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <_ant_> maggi: you cant sudo "cd"
[10:04] <rowland> PriceChild Edgy wont mount this particular model because of a Raid/Hal problem.  I've tried a fairly lengthy fix involving 7 downloads which sorts it but only until restart it seems.
[10:04] <ddude> i have Ubuntu Edgy and i can't find my """/etc/inittab""" !!!!
[10:05] <PriceChild> Not a clue sorry rowland.
[10:05] <maggi> _ant_, i didnt told him to do so ;)
[10:05] <Lamego> gubluntu, you can't set your external IP on that server, your problem is that all your servers should be configured to your intranet IP, not to the internet one
[10:05] <maggi> arooni, try "sudo ls /etc/asterik"
[10:05] <Maul555> billy: its not giving me the error this time...  but xserver refuses to start none the less...
[10:05] <_ant_> maggi: sorry, :X
[10:05] <rwx--r--r> arooni:  try to give read n execute permission to that user
[10:06] <arooni> rwx--r--r: how would i do that
[10:06] <billy> Maul555 : you need to reconfigure.
[10:06] <Lamego> the port forwarding takes care of moving the data into your local IP
[10:06] <arooni> i'm a neebwie
[10:06] <rowland> why is my name not coloured when someone replies
[10:06] <jeanre> damn
[10:06] <jeanre> what is wrong here
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[10:06] <PriceChild> rowland, what client?
[10:06] <mitsuhiko> anybody how wants textmate for ubuntu -> reddit it please :)
[10:06] <jeanre> I can not get mysql to recreate the /etc/mysql/ entries
[10:06] <Maul555> billy: its supposed to do that automaticly, and even when i did reconfigure, i got no better results
[10:06] <maggi> arooni, to which user? root?
[10:06] <Lamego> rowland, because thats the default on xchat, highlight when someone writes your nick
[10:06] <rowland> do you mean version.....sorry Xchat
[10:06] <arooni> maggi: i want to give my normal user (chasetoys) the ability to access and read/edit these files in /etc/asterisk
[10:07] <youser> so i got feisty fawn to boot the live cd on my intel 965 chipset!!!!
[10:07] <PriceChild> youser, > #ubuntu-effects
[10:07] <gubluntu> lamego, ah.. trying that now..
[10:07] <youser> trying to dual boot though i cant resize my windows partition with any partition programs
[10:07] <billy> Maul555 ; when you reconfigured did you see a new video driver to choose from?
[10:07] <maggi> arooni, you should read some unix basics
[10:07] <jeanre> anyone got ideas?
[10:07] <youser> effects?
[10:07] <maggi> try
[10:07] <maggi> "man chmod"
[10:07] <rowland> rowland
[10:08] <Maul555> i saw nvidia, just like i saw it before... only this time, it doesnt work at all
[10:08] <XarvoX> hi all
[10:08] <Lamego> gubluntu, but well, be sure to not mess, service names, like virtual hosts on apache, with hostnames/IPs
[10:08] <maggi> you will know what to do afterwards...
[10:08] <arooni> maggi: which should i do?  chmod 077 asterisk ?
[10:08] <billy> !hi | XarvoX
[10:08] <ubotu> XarvoX: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:08] <XarvoX> does anyone have time to help a noob? :)
[10:08] <XarvoX> thank yoU :D
[10:08] <Lamego> you can use external hostnames for virtualhots, and long they are bind to the intranet IP
[10:08] <Lamego> as
[10:08] <jeanre> ok someone can help me with my mysql issue?
[10:08] <dimeotane> xarvox : can't hurt to ask yer questions
[10:08] <Lamego> !anyone
[10:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:08] <rowland> Maul555 I have just installed feisty, getting a nvidia insert CD rom error.  I've been advised to dump feisty
[10:09] <gubluntu> lamego.. worked... :D thanks
[10:09] <PriceChild> rowland, feisty is not released yet
[10:09] <rwx--r--r> arooni:  thats user iz related with particuler group or others group And What permissions particuler user have or dir..
[10:09] <Maul555> rowland:  fiesty is an unstable build and will have problems
[10:09] <Lamego> rowland, you should open a bug report if you found a bug on feisty
[10:09] <youser> feisty is all that works for me
[10:09] <youser> even remotely
[10:09] <XarvoX> i installed ubuntu 6.10 on a powermac g3 (blue/white) and fell in love completely, but when i tryed to install it on my main computer (powermac g4 quicksilver) it simply will not boot.. (same cd)
[10:09] <rowland> PriceChild, I was told to try it to see if it sorts my iPod mount issue
[10:09] <arooni> rwx--r--r: i have no idea how to find that out
[10:09] <ompaul> !worksforme | youser
[10:09] <Maul555> billy:  i think the easiest thing to do here is just put an ati card in the computer, i didnt have any problems when i ran ubuntu on my ati card last time...
[10:09] <ubotu> youser: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:09] <youser> except i cant resize my hard drive im wondering if its because its a sata 500gb hd?
[10:09] <PriceChild> rowland, ah... well now that it doesn't, best you don't use it ;)
[10:09] <pyrohotdog> Anyone know why Gnomebaker can't see mp3s?
[10:10] <rwx--r--r> !oracle
[10:10] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[10:10] <rwx--r--r> thanks ubotu.. for the oracle stuff
[10:10] <ompaul> !codecs  > pyrohotdog
[10:10] <rowland> PriceChild, haven't tried that yet got stuck with the whole Nvidia thing!!!
[10:10] <Lamego> thats oracle XE
[10:10] <_ant_> !chmod | arooni
[10:10] <ubotu> arooni: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:10] <maggi> arooni, how do you want to set file permissions for owner/group/everyoun?
[10:10] <billy> Maul555 : I've found that when struggle is met with increased resistance, the path of least resistance is the one to take.  <-- My zen for the day.
[10:10] <maggi> everyone
[10:10] <_ant_> arooni : you have to read to learn
[10:10] <rwx--r--r> arooni:  then u have to read some unix basics.
[10:10] <rowland> Shouldn't my name highlight in Xchat???
[10:11] <ompaul> rwx--r--r, you can do /msg ubotu keyword and get it to tell you what you need quitely
[10:11] <PriceChild> rowland, support in #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <Maul555> billy: is that your way of saying i should do that without making it look like your giving up?
[10:11] <pyrohotdog> I have lame installed already...I can play mp3s just fine.
[10:11] <maggi> lol
[10:11] <XarvoX> when trying to boot from live cd (v.6.10, powermac g4) i get to the first text input (boot option) but regardless of what i try it crashes my computer.. Does ANYONE have a ide of what to do?
[10:11] <_ant_> ompaul : i didn't know that.
[10:11] <rwx--r--r> _ant_:  yes u are right i suggest that too
[10:12] <billy> Maul555 : man, if I had more experience with nvidia drivers I really would go the distance.  But I don't, so I can't.  I'm sorry that script hasn't helped you.  Before installing the new chip, try posting in the ubuntu forum that I linked you to.  It's worth a shot.
[10:12] <ompaul> _ant_, and then you can do !keyword > person (here you tell person to check message from bot)
[10:12] <rwx--r--r> XarvoX:  did you check CD media?
[10:12] <dimeotane> XarvoX:  try  the dapper 6.06 cd... also check the ubuntu forums
[10:12] <Maul555> its allright, the ati card isnt a wimp, it will do fine....
[10:12] <_ant_> ompaul : i'm obsorbing.. keep it coming :P
[10:12] <XarvoX> rwx--r--r: its a known good cd (worked on my powermac g3)
[10:13] <gubluntu> lamego.. i have one more question for you now.... trying the http://site:7071/zimbraAdmin     trys to download a binary file in firefox
[10:13] <XarvoX> dimetonate: ive tryed v 6.06 aswell (official printed cd) same issue..
[10:13] <ompaul> _ant_, I think maybe twice a year I would say use google and not give a url but those would be very strange situations
[10:13] <dimeotane> XarvoX:  just cause it works on one.. doesn't mean it's good.  my new Dell laptop could hardly read a CD-R burned on my older toshiba
[10:13] <Lamego> gubluntu, that usually means you are missing some module
[10:13] <rwx--r--r> !install
[10:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:13] <Maul555> billy:  just dont be suprised if i have some ati driver questions in about 10 min... lol...
[10:13] <ompaul> _ant_, don't get worn out
[10:13] <Lamego> to interpret the files instead of just dumping them to your browser
[10:14] <deiaccord> XarvoX, is your G4 set to boot from CD?
[10:14] <_ant_> ompaul : strange just means "new" to me, i like strange
[10:14] <dimeotane> xarvox: when you boot it and it 'doesn't work... what happens?
[10:14] <billy> Maul555 : :)
[10:14] <ddude>  i have Ubuntu Edgy and i can't find my """/etc/inittab""" !!!!
[10:14] <XarvoX> dimeotane; i have 2 cd, one _original_ release with the ubuntu paper case and so on, so that one should work
[10:14] <rwx--r--r> XarvoX:  Read The installationg guide on the web
[10:14] <gubluntu> lamego.. changed it to https and it worked
[10:14] <ompaul> _ant_, msg me for more stuff this is turning into a convo
[10:14] <ddude> Help needed,  i have Ubuntu Edgy and i can't find my """/etc/inittab""" !!!!
[10:14] <Lamego> so you are good, its safer :P
[10:14] <XarvoX> ive already installed it on my g3 and that worked fine.. this seems like a bit more dificoult problem.. :/
[10:15] <radioaktivstorm> hello. is it possible to reset the settings for my user account.  im having an issue where the gnome-settings-daemon keeps restarting, and then eventually just gives up
[10:15] <dimeotane> XarvoX: so when you boot it how far do you get?
[10:15] <rowland> Whoohoo iPod problem mounting resolved in Feisty!!!! Now I have Nvidia problems....when using Synaptic it says insert CD.  I do but it doesn't recognise it!!!!
[10:15] <Lamego> rowland, do you have an internet connection ?
[10:15] <Lamego> on your ubuntu box ?
[10:15] <rowland> Lamego  Yes
[10:15] <ddude> please :D somebody? i have Ubuntu Edgy and i can't find my """/etc/inittab""" !!!!
[10:16] <Lamego> rowland, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <Lamego> remove the cdrom entry
[10:16] <Lamego> and: sudo apt-get update
[10:16] <jeanre> can someone post /etc/mysql/my.cnf on pastebin for me please
[10:16] <sebrock> could anyone please help me getting devilspie to work? I've installed it with synaptic
[10:16] <XarvoX> after the live boot option (about 10 secs after boot) it rolls for about 15-30 secs and then crashes. i cant see anything after the boot option, and i assume my computer crashes when the capslock light wont turn on anymore
[10:17] <jeanre> hmmm anyone please?
[10:17] <Lamego> !anyone > jeanre
[10:17] <Jowi> radioaktivstorm, rename (or remove if you don't care about having backups) .gnome, .gnome2* and .gtkrc*. that's as close as you can get I think
[10:18] <sebrock> anyone?
[10:18] <Lamego> !anyone
[10:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:18] <dimeotane> xarvox: there are various booting options for ubuntu you may need to try.  I've managed to get xubuntu on a really old imac and it works nicely.    Did you try searching the ubuntuforums.org for your problem?
[10:18] <billy> Maul555 : I'm going to disconnect for a moment.  BRB
[10:18] <jeanre> Lamego: I did ask a real question
[10:18] <XarvoX> dimeotane, since im total noob on linux, i dont even know what to search for..
[10:18] <radioaktivstorm> Jowi, thanks! also, is there any way i can get kde to stop overriding the settings gnomeside?
[10:18] <william> Hi all, could someone help and explain to me how to mount a new serial ATA HD that everyone using this computer is able to store data on it.
[10:18] <Lamego> ah
[10:19] <Lamego> sorry, i saw, now
[10:19] <phpnub> Hola!
[10:19] <Jowi> radioaktivstorm, no idea. I haven't used kde in years.
[10:19] <dimeotane> XarvoX: ok.. I can help.. what's the mac version we should look up
[10:19] <XarvoX> .. ive been using mac for 18 years now, but im total deadbeat when it comes to linux and boot procedures...
[10:19] <arooni> folks... su -i doesnt do anything
[10:19] <arooni> i get an invalid command
[10:19] <XarvoX> :D mac version?
[10:19] <billy> arooni: there's no root in ubuntu.
[10:19] <Flannel> arooni: it's sudo, not su.  Are you sure you need a shell?
[10:19] <dimeotane> XarvoX: thats ok... consider it a new hobby... it takes time to get the feel for it..
[10:19] <XarvoX> indeed it does :)
[10:19] <Lamego> jeanre, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9704/
[10:19] <phpnub> arooni, -i is an invalid option
[10:19] <Jowi> arooni, "sudo -i" might be what you're looking for
[10:19] <william> the partition part and the formating wasn't the problem but after mounnting I just can't get write access for ordanry user
[10:19] <dimeotane> XarvoX: yea I think you said it's a G4 or something?
[10:20] <billy> arooni:  for whatever superuser tasks you need, place a `sudo` before it.
[10:20] <radioaktivstorm> Jowi, thanks. i tried installing kde to see what it was like...but i like gnome better. the problem im having is that now i have a mix of four or five different themes and its a real mess. hopefully your suggestion will help :)
[10:20] <XarvoX> dimeotane, ya, powermac g4 867mhz quicksilver (year 2001)
[10:20] <dimeotane> k hang around for a sec
[10:20] <phpnub> anyone seen a problem where you setup a "place" for nautilus and it opens that in firefox instead of nautilus
[10:21] <phpnub> arooni, sudo su
[10:21] <Flannel> phpnub, arooni, no not sudo su.  sudo -i
[10:21] <sebrock> Sorry for the repeats: Anyone here has Devilspie working?
[10:21] <tanubis> does anyone know how I'd go about setting up a webcam?
[10:21] <MADMODMIKE> hello, i am student from nigeria want to install ubunt for mother from pakistan, developing trouble within core install, to use windows vista, not sure if driver, anyone know???
[10:21] <drkanzie> Has anyone here managed to install Aptana?
[10:21] <phpnub> Flannel, does that work for piped commands?
[10:22] <Flannel> phpnub: Eh?  sudo -i opens a shell.  If you want to pipe commands, you'll need to use sudo on the second command, or perhaps the "tee" command, depending on what sort of thing you're piping
[10:22] <plyskin> anyone have a good guide for getting dual monitors working in XGL with Beryl , with ATI Radeon 9800 card?
[10:22] <bulmer> phpnub: it will work if you like ..put the commands inside  " "
[10:22] <Flannel> plyskin: XGL/Beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects
[10:22] <dimeotane> XarvoX: did you try booting while holding down the option key?
[10:22] <jeanre>  mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
[10:22] <jeanre> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
[10:22] <plyskin> thnx
[10:23] <arooni> ok Flannel and phpnub that works
[10:23] <XarvoX> the opt key?
[10:23] <dimeotane> that should bring you to a page with icons on it allowing you to select what boot device
[10:23] <XarvoX> no, i didnt. what would that have done?
[10:23] <dimeotane> option
[10:23] <MADMODMIKE> hello i am student from nigeria on for install help?
[10:23] <arrummzen> How would I install xemacs on ubuntu? apt-get install xemacs doesn't work =/
[10:23] <Flannel> MADMODMIKE: what are you having trouble with?
[10:24] <phpnub> So no one here has delt with the default open action of nautilus before...
[10:24] <XarvoX> dimeotane, is there any way to talk to you in private? icq or anther channel? :)
[10:24] <jrib> !defaultapp | phpnub
[10:24] <ubotu> phpnub: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[10:24] <adrian_> Hi
[10:24] <Flannel> arooni: the package appears to be xemacs21
[10:24] <XarvoX> dimeotane, i boot with C pressed in order to boot from cd
[10:24] <MADMODMIKE> develop trouble inside driver, conflict in windows vista for ubuntu?
[10:24] <arrummzen> Flannel, I tried that, but that didn't work either.
[10:24] <arooni> Flannel: huh?
[10:24] <adrian_> Need help with installing Wine, Already added it from add program section what's next?
[10:24] <phpnub> jrib: There's no open with tab on "Places"
[10:24] <Flannel> arooni: sorry, mis-complete
[10:24] <arrummzen> "E: Package xemacs21 has no installation candidate"
[10:25] <Flannel> arrummzen: are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:25] <dimeotane> XarvoX: check out this thread regarding a similar problem on a g5   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371139&highlight=powermac+g4
[10:25] <arrummzen> Flannel, how can I check?
[10:25] <bulmer> they have vista in Nigeria? hehehe..or is that warez?
[10:25] <Flannel> arrummzen: lsb_release -a
[10:25] <shatrat> adrian_, if it's installed just use "wine /path/to/some/executable.exe" to run a win32 executable
[10:25] <jrib> phpnub: what place?
[10:25] <arrummzen> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[10:25] <phpnub> jrib, it's an ftp site
[10:25] <colorred> MADMODMIKE: are you installing vista or ubuntu?
[10:25] <MADMODMIKE> want ubuntu
[10:25] <phpnub> jrib, my smb links still work with no problem
[10:25] <Flannel> arrummzen: er... Are you on linux?
[10:26] <arrummzen> Flannel, yea....
[10:26] <adrian_> shatrat: would do but can't seem to find it
[10:26] <jrib> phpnub: how did you add it?
[10:26] <Flannel> arrummzen: You're using what flavor of ubuntu?
[10:26] <shatrat> adrian_, find what?
[10:26] <arrummzen> Flannel, I don't know =P
[10:26] <Flannel> arrummzen: Ubuntu? Kubuntu? Xubuntu?  What did you install?
[10:26] <jeanre> ok I guess no one has a clue on my mysql error
[10:26] <arrummzen> Flannel, I didn't do that install myself.
[10:27] <arrummzen> Flannel, The docs say it is "Ubuntu 6.06"
[10:27] <Flannel> arrummzen: I see.  Ok, well, uh, what color is the desktop?
[10:27] <adrian_> shatrat: where wine is located
[10:27] <XarvoX> dimeotane, ive done that exactly (as stated in first entry) but didnt get further than the first screen, and the responce given in the thread is for 64bit processor.. i have 32.. :/
[10:27] <MTec007> whats it mean when the cd loads almost into X (and probably into X) and the screen is black?
[10:27] <phpnub> jrib, File -> connect to server -> ftp with login
[10:27] <D--> Odd question. In installed Ubuntu, then added Xubuntu-desktop via package manager. Is there any way for me to remove some of the junk it forces me to install like AbiWord and Thunderbird?
[10:27] <shatrat> adrian_, its a program youve installed, it doesnt matter where it is.  you have a "wine" command to use
[10:27] <D--> If I try in synaptic, it forces me to remove xubuntu
[10:27] <arrummzen> Flannel, well, I'm logged in via SSH from a RHEL machine... I don't see what desktop color would tell you...
[10:27] <Flannel> D--: yeah, just remove them, it'll remove the 'xubuntu-desktop' metapcakage, no big deal
[10:27] <MADMODMIKE> inside ubuntu not sure for install over windows vista
[10:27] <dimeotane> XarvoX: someone else here says, "the only thing that I know of that can sometimes stop Linux being installed on a Mac is the CD/DVD rom"
[10:27] <Flannel> !metapackage | D--
[10:27] <D--> oh
[10:27] <bulmer> MTec007: your video can not handle high resolution
[10:27] <ubotu> D--: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[10:27] <adrian_> shatrat: okey, in the terminal then?
[10:27] <MTec007> what can i do?
[10:28] <MTec007> i loaded safe mode
[10:28] <shatrat> adrian_, yes
[10:28] <D--> the thing is
[10:28] <Flannel> arrummzen: What does 'uname -a' give?
[10:28] <D--> once it removes the metapackage
[10:28] <DM|> Question, What is DMA ??
[10:28] <tanubis> anyone know how to get a USB nexxtech VGA webcam working on ubuntu?
[10:28] <colorred> MADMODMIKE: unless dualbooting, vista does not affect installation
[10:28] <D--> won't autoremove list everything else that was part of xubuntu-desktop as save to remove?
[10:28] <adrian_> shatrat: what is the command then?
[10:28] <arrummzen> Linux none 2.6.20 #1 Mon Feb 19 20:31:43 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:28] <bulmer> MTec007: first you need to prefix your responses with a nick to whom your addressing it to
[10:28] <Galga> hi
[10:28] <Flannel> D--: no, metapackages are just require things, they won't pull everything away
[10:28] <D--> that's my concern. don't want to end up doing an apt-get autoremove and tanking my machine ;)
[10:28] <rwx--r--r> i just install the VLC And Codecs Through Automatix2 Package.. its download all libs and each and Every thing. in last the Error comes FATAL ERROR: Media player " An Apt-based error occured And installation Was Unsuccessfull..
[10:28] <D--> ok, will try
[10:28] <shatrat> adrian_, youre not gonna believe this, but it's "wine"
[10:29] <sebrock> need help with Devilspie please
[10:29] <Galga> my ubuntu box displays huge dots instead of icons
[10:29] <dimeotane> XarvoX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340177&highlight=powermac+g4  this thread seems very similar to what you're talking about
[10:29] <drkanzie> Anyone that has installed Aptana, need some help with install!
[10:29] <phpnub> jrib, it's kicking back an error now
[10:29] <billy> I want to send Automatix2 to a friend of mine who has a slow internet connection and zero experience with linux and computers in general.  Can I put the automatix2 deb file on a disk, and all she'll need to do is click on it and it'll install?
[10:29] <Flannel> arrummzen: Er... did you compile your own kernel?
[10:29] <adrian_> shatrat: you're i don't, so i just type in "wine" in the terminal then?
[10:29] <rust> hey peeps, quick one I hope.  Im on a 12 hour shift and haven't tried kde for quite a while.  Is it safe to just "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or will it shaft any of my gnome setup?
[10:29] <Flannel> !automatix | billy
[10:29] <ubotu> billy: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:30] <arrummzen> Flannel, the guy that setup the machine did.
[10:30] <jrib> phpnub: interesting, it's not even opening for me
[10:30] <shatrat> adrian_, wine followed by the filename of whatever win32 executable you want to run
[10:30] <MADMODMIKE> !vista
[10:30] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[10:30] <arrummzen> Flannel, But I don't see what that has to do with installing xemacs?
[10:30] <Lamego> rust, it is not dangerous, but yes you can get some menu mess
[10:30] <phpnub> uh oh
[10:30] <MTec007> bulmer; what can i do?
[10:30] <AngryElf> what is ubuntu's dual-monitor support like?
[10:30] <Galga> lol ubotu
[10:30] <phpnub> jrib, do you know if there was a vfs update this week I haven't used this feature since last weekend
[10:30] <billy> Allow me to rephrase.  Is all that is required to install a .deb file is to click on it and Ubuntu will take care of the rest, with limited user interaction?
[10:31] <bulmer> MTec007: for what? umm pay me money maybe if its okay with you?
[10:31] <jrib> phpnub: idk, I'm actually on feisty atm
[10:31] <okaratas> sudo apt-get install mono mono-mcs libgtk-cil libgtksourceview-cil libgecko-cil monodevelop monodoc
[10:31] <sebrock> why is it not working...
[10:31] <plyskin> angryelf: Im trying to get that working myself
[10:31] <gaspipe1> hey people
[10:31] <nekr0z> _ant_: buddy, you there?
[10:31] <Flannel> billy: If you're a friend, you wouldn't be installing Automatix, Unless you want to break his install
[10:31] <okaratas> which packages do i need to install for .exe files to be run? i have a .exe file for windows which i can't run...
[10:31] <AngryElf> plyskin, "shotty at best?"
[10:31] <Flannel> arrummzen: Well, we were trying to figure out what eversion of ubuntu you had.  But, honestly, I don't think you're running Ubuntu.  Or, well, if it is, its... far from stock.  You apparently have no hostname, and the lack of lsb_release frightens me as well.
[10:31] <rust> Lamego, thanks, I can deal with menu mess, as long as long as I can open a terminal and evolution I should be ok
[10:31] <jrib> okaratas: you can try wine
[10:31] <jrib> !wine | okaratas
[10:31] <ubotu> okaratas: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:31] <bulmer> okaratas: maybe try vmware
[10:31] <Flannel> arrummzen: but, you need to enable the universe repository, xemacs21 is in universe.
[10:31] <MTec007> bulmer; whats it mean when the cd loads almost into X (and probably into X) and the screen is black?
[10:31] <Flannel> !universe | arrummzen
[10:31] <ubotu> arrummzen: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:31] <plyskin> angryelf: well, I cant get it working yet
[10:32] <phpnub> jrib, I'm running edgy
[10:32] <phpnub> jrib,  found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118006
[10:32] <lovloss> Do i have to download a special version of ubuntu to install it on a SATA drive?
[10:32] <bulmer> MTec007: umm, you selected a low res install? try that first
[10:32] <gaspipe1> i just bought a Fantom 250GB external HD (via firewire)
[10:32] <rwx--r--r>  i just install the VLC And Codecs Through Automatix2 Package.. its download all libs and each and Every thing. in last the Error comes FATAL ERROR: Media player " An Apt-based error occured And installation Was Unsuccessfull..
[10:32] <billy> Flannel : and how hard is re-installing?  Not hard at all.  If it works, great.  If it don't, just re-install.  But I'd like her to have the option of not having to chase down script after script, as I have to do.
[10:32] <adrian_> shatrat: okey, should easy, i'll give it a try, thanks a lot
[10:32] <arrummzen> Flannel, I think he stripped it down to remove some of the "cruft" and save space.
[10:32] <shatrat> adrian_, good luck
[10:32] <Lamego> !automatix
[10:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:32] <MTec007> its livecd...
[10:32] <Flannel> arrummzen: er... that's hardly cruft.  Its.. quite essential.
[10:33] <gaspipe1> i can see it, and read from the "drive" but will not alow me to edit files or add files to drive... it is a read only...how can I change that?
[10:33] <Flannel> billy: reinstalling is more work than installing codecs manually
[10:33] <dv_> is there an application for capturing dvb video in ubuntu?
[10:33] <Lamego> dvb ?
[10:33] <billy> Flannel : you expect me to believe that?
[10:33] <Flannel> rwx--r--r: You've been bit by automatix.  It breaks often.
[10:33] <jeanre> even dpkg -i mysql-server fails
[10:33] <dv_> kaffeine can do it nicely, but thats a kde app
[10:33] <jeanre> what the hell
[10:33] <Flannel> billy: It's true, but you don't have to believe it if you don't want ot
[10:33] <Lamego> jeanre, sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server
[10:33] <shatrat> billy, hose the system if you want, i could use some entertainment
[10:33] <rwx--r--r> okie..
[10:33] <Lamego> use the purge option to remove your config
[10:33] <jeanre> lancetw:
[10:33] <jeanre> Lamego: I did
[10:34] <Robert1> new to ubunut, not new to Linux, need some help. Installed desktop, want apache but the app installer shows no available packages??
[10:34] <Lamego> and it failed ?
[10:34] <tuntis> urrrr
[10:34] <Flannel> billy: codecs are, for the most part, a couple of commands.  If you know everything of what you want, you can do all of them in the same couple of commands
[10:34] <jeanre> no that worked
[10:34] <okaratas> jrib, I solved the problem
[10:34] <okaratas> thanks..
[10:34] <jeanre> now I reinstall it
[10:34] <Flannel> !lamp | Robert1
[10:34] <ubotu> Robert1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:34] <Flannel> Robert1: follow that URL
[10:34] <bulmer> Robert1: the repository you are using does not have it, so look for another one to add
[10:34] <tuntis> When I try to start Ubuntu 6.10 (live), it just reboots the computer
[10:34] <nekr0z> He quit 2 minutes before I finally solved the thing, after spending at least 3 hours online. What an irony! :)
[10:34] <fizzmahon> i need to get direct rendering to work on my radeon 7500, any help?
[10:35] <dimeotane> Robert1: have you added and updated repositories yet?
[10:35] <nekr0z> tuntis: Tried it in recovery mode?
[10:35] <jrib> phpnub: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=48250
[10:35] <Lamego> tuntis, try with the alternate cd
[10:35] <jeanre> Lamego: \
[10:35] <Lamego> but check your cd first
[10:35] <shatrat> fizzmahon, have you installed the fglrx drivers? If so you should completely remove them and possibly reinstall the mesa libraries
[10:35] <jeanre>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                   [fail] 
[10:35] <jeanre> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[10:35] <jeanre> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
[10:35] <adrian_> shatrat: i can't seem to be able to start the program i want. These aren't in the system32 cataogue
[10:35] <fizzmahon> shatrat, yupp fglrx is in there
[10:35] <tuntis> It didn't do that before I reset the CMOS
[10:36] <nekr0z> tuntis: oops I've missed the fact that was live...
[10:36] <sebrock> devilspie anyone?
[10:36] <Lamego> jeanre, check the mysql log
[10:36] <fizzmahon> shatrat, so just apt-get remove xorg-drivers-fglrx?
[10:36] <Maul555> billy: how do i run a ".run" file as a super user from the command line?
[10:36] <adrian_> shatrat: I need get to the program catalogue, how do I do that
[10:36] <Lamego> Maul555, sudo sh file.run
[10:36] <felixhummel_> hi
[10:36] <Maul555> what does sh mean
[10:36] <shatrat> fizzmahon, if you go to the BerylOnEdgy how-to at help.ubuntu.org there is a small section on getting the open source drivers working again
[10:36] <dimeotane> Maul555: click on file permissions to make the file executable
[10:36] <nekr0z> tuntis: then it's your BIOS settings, man
[10:36] <jrib> phpnub: and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/11574 may be related
[10:36] <Lamego> it means it will execute a shell which will open the .run script/vinary
[10:37] <Lamego> b
[10:37] <stephano> Robert1, how are you trying to install Apache?
[10:37] <shatrat> adrian_, I dont even know what program catalogue means
[10:37] <AngryElf> i've got the proprietary drivers for my nvidia installed -- should I have problems with a widescreen monitor?
[10:37] <fizzmahon> shatrat, thanks! appreciate the help!
[10:37] <tuntis> nekr0z: what could be wrong?
[10:37] <shatrat> AngryElf, I dont have any.  You might have to add your resolution to the list.
[10:37] <shatrat> fizzmahon, good luck
[10:37] <felixhummel_> Does Gaim support VoIP yet? I'm looking for a platform independent app for VoIP and IM.
[10:37] <adrian_> shatrat: sorry hehe, lets say program dir then
[10:37] <billy> Flannel : OK, OK.  You convinced me.  I don't trust Automatix myself so I guess I wouldn't be a good friend sending it to her.  I just don't want her to have an exhausting first experience with an OS other an Windows and kill it for her.  She has LOTS of multimedia stuff.  I thought it'd be a good solution.  But you've convinced me (shatrat's immature comment notwithstanding).
[10:38] <dimeotane> felixhummel_: theres rumours of it coming.
[10:38] <fizzmahon> help.ununtu.org down for anyone else?
[10:38] <billy> Maul555 : just a sec.
[10:38] <PaulButler> I just installed ubuntu server and it didn't autodetect my network card... How do I get the internet working?
[10:38] <adrian_> cuz lets face they aren't gonns find many of the programs in the system32 dir
[10:38] <linxeh> PaulButler: does linux support your network card/
[10:38] <shatrat> my immature comments withstand everything.  The restricted format's and common tasks how-tos arent hard to follow and automatix is down right now anyway from what I've read billy
[10:38] <tuntis> since everything in the BIOS settings seem fine
[10:38] <Jowi> PaulButler, what nic do you have?
[10:39] <linxeh> !automatix
[10:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:39] <billy> shatrat : at least you acknowledge your comment was immature.  deal?
[10:39] <felixhummel_> thx, dimeotane!
[10:39] <shatrat> Immature...for a tree maybe.
[10:40] <adrian_> shatrat: how do i get in touch with the programs in the program dir though wine?
[10:40] <felixhummel_> Are there platform-independent open source IM/VoIP apps currently out there?
[10:40] <PaulButler> Jowi/linxeh it's onboard, asus motherboard with an intel chipset
[10:40] <shatrat> adrian_, Im not sure what you mean? Do you mean in the .wine/drive_c virtual windows install, or are you trying to run something off your actual windows partition?
[10:40] <Lamego> felixhummel_, I guess some jabber clients are multi-platform
[10:40] <billy> shatrat : I just don't want my friend to have to chase down script that scattered across the internet everytime she wants to watch some movie on the internet or listen to some new music filetype.  That's all.
[10:40] <Flannel> felixhummel_: GAIM is a IM thing, Ekiga implements h323
[10:40] <fizzmahon> shatrat, cant seem to find beryl howto on help.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <billy> shatrat : and any comment from a tree would be most mature.
[10:41] <PriceChild> fizzmahon, #ubuntu-effects please
[10:41] <adrian_> shatrat: don't know the diff but the latter I think
[10:41] <Lamego> Ekia is not platform-independent :)
[10:41] <Lamego> Ekiga
[10:41] <shatrat> fizzmahon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[10:41] <fizzmahon> shatrat, thanks
[10:41] <shatrat> adrian_, ok first what program are you trying to run?
[10:41] <Jowi> PaulButler, you need to be more precise than that I afraid.
[10:41] <Flannel> Lamego: no, but it implements a standard, and there are plenty of other h323 clients for other OSs
[10:42] <shatrat> billy, im immature like a fox.  I spent like 5 minutes installing codecs right after I installed and I haven't run into anything I couldnt play since.
[10:42] <PaulButler> Jowi: yeah, i'm looking through the manual... it's an Attansic L1 Gagabit Lan controller
[10:42] <linxeh> PaulButler: yeah, but what chipset is the nic? often they are broadcom - you need to go to the asus website and lookup the motherboard and find out (maybe by looking at the manual, or the windows downloads for the nic drivers)
[10:42] <MTec007> hello, how can i change the resolution before X loads? im using 6.10 live cd
[10:42] <Lamego> Flannel, but the question was about platform-independent open source apps, not about open protocols :)
[10:42] <linxeh> attansic heh
[10:42] <linxeh> "who?"
[10:42] <adrian_> shatrat: DC++
[10:42] <phpnub> jrib, found the problem
[10:42] <billy> really shatrat.  You're first time using Linux you spent five minutes setting everything up?
[10:42] <erUSUL> !fixres | MTec007
[10:42] <ubotu> MTec007: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:42] <jrib> phpnub: what was it?
[10:42] <drkanzie> is there anything special I need to take into consideration to install WoW on  my Edgy?
[10:42] <bulmer> MTec007: you tried F3 at boot to select resolution?
[10:43] <shatrat> billy, well, ive been using linux since the 90s, but it was my first time using ubuntu.
[10:43] <billy> shatrat : the person to whom I'm sending this installation CD doesn't even know what a command line is.  Are you beginning to see what I'm getting at?
[10:43] <MTec007> bulmer: never got a option for screen res, but i did try safe mode
[10:43] <Lamego> drkanzie, make sure you have the 3d hw capable driver installed
[10:43] <nekr0z> tuntis: Can't guess.
[10:43] <bulmer> MTec007: umm F3 on the menu during boot?
[10:44] <OuZo> anybody using LVM?
[10:44] <tuntis> no option should have changed (with the exception of boot order)
[10:44] <shatrat> adrian_, actually I think there is a linux version of that, hold on
[10:44] <billy> Maul555 : you there.
[10:44] <billy> ?
[10:44] <MTec007> F3 Keymap
[10:44] <Maul555> is fglrx the ati driver?
[10:44] <Lamego> Maul555, it is
[10:44] <bulmer> MTec007: well maybe F4 ?
[10:44] <alienseer23> !wpc54gr
[10:44] <Jowi> PaulButler, seems to be a problem with that one. according to here it has been fixed in latest feisty. no idea about edgy: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-source-2.6.20_2.6.20-8.14/changelog
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpc54gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <shatrat> billy, talk them through setting up a ssh access for you on the box :D
[10:44] <phpnub> jrib, hang on still trying to fix it
[10:44] <Maul555> coo, what i thought
[10:44] <eleazar> hi there, since i installed the fglrx driver on edgy i get this 1600x1200 resolution in gdm, i'd like to set it to 1024x768 how can i do it?, my sesion screen resolution is fine, but i can't find the way to change the gdm one
[10:44] <MTec007> bulmer: f4 VGA
[10:44] <billy> shatrat : now there's a good idea.
[10:45] <drkanzie> Lamego, Im running Beryl successfully with the nvidia-drivers from lupine.me.uk, that means that all is well right?
[10:45] <billy> Maul555 : figured it out yet?
[10:45] <Lamego> I guess so
[10:45] <PaulButler> Jowi: thanks for the info.. I guess I'll go with fiesty
[10:45] <bulmer> MTec007: okay, I assume your video can support VGA right? btw which ubuntu cdrom you have ?
[10:45] <phpnub> jrib, well that didn't work
[10:45] <joe4444> changing the DDR settings in my BIOS shouldn't affect the OS, right?
[10:45] <MTec007> bulmer: 6.10 live cd
[10:46] <Lamego> joe4444, unless your system becomes unstable :D
[10:46] <shatrat> adrian_, there is a linux version of DC++  , there is a how-to here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[10:46] <shatrat> adrian_, it involves compiling but its pretty clearly explained in that thread.
[10:46] <bulmer> drkanzie: am curious, what video card you have and how much RAM memory to get that going?
[10:46] <MTec007> bulmer: for intel processor
[10:46] <joe4444> in other words, if i have installed Ubuntu when the settings were running DDR400 RAM @ DDR333 it wouldn't make a difference if i configure it @ DDR400?
[10:47] <adrian_> shatrat:okey, thanks I'll check it out
[10:47] <bulmer> MTec007: how long did you wait for things to get working? booting from liveCD takes a little more time you know....
[10:47] <nekr0z> joe4444: I beleive it goes seamlessly.
[10:47] <billy> Maul555 : `sudo ./filename.run`
[10:47] <joe4444> ok just making sure... i can't seem to get DDR400 stable =/
[10:47] <shatrat> adrian_, if you really dont want to try that though, I can still talk you through using wine.  I think youve been going at it the wrong way though, wine doesnt have anything to do with your windowspartition.
[10:47] <Lamego> joe4444, The OS does not care about such settings
[10:47] <MTec007> i waited a while, i loaded the cdrom and went out to eat and came back, and get a black screen
[10:47] <Lamego> thats not an OS issue, its an hw issue
[10:48] <bulmer> MTec007: first you need to prefix your responses with a nick to whom your addressing it to
[10:48] <MTec007> bulmer i waited a while, i loaded the cdrom and went out to eat and came back, and get a black screen
[10:48] <bulmer> MTec007: the screensaver is blank maybe?
[10:48] <joe4444> anyone know how to tweak CAS, etc.?  or a good guide on the subject?  my mobo's manual is worthless... it basically just shows screenshots of the different BIOS menus w/o any details
[10:48] <phpnub> jrib, gonna try another account to see if this problem is system wide
[10:48] <adrian_> shatrat:okey how nice of you, i'll try to get the linux version going first though :)
[10:48] <xamox> anyone have a good performance tweaking guide for edgy?
[10:49] <MTec007> no i tryed to recover from a screensaveer. its just a blank display
[10:49] <bulmer> MTec007: you can try one of the consoles...ctrl+alt+F2 and see if you get a prompt
[10:50] <MTec007> i really beleive the display is too high for the monitor/driver
[10:50] <skreet> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and reboot, but xdm isnt starting xfce4-session, it's starting gterm, or something simliar. Any ideas?
[10:50] <MTec007> bulmer i really beleive the display is too high for the monitor/driver
[10:51] <bulmer> MTec007: that maybe it, so select VGA for now
[10:51] <phpnub> jrib, problem is system wide gonna reboot
[10:51] <Maul555> billy: i think i may have just had a completly uneventful driver install...  ill know in a min...
[10:51] <skreet> Better question, where can I find the session scripts for each session?
[10:51] <MTec007> bulmer it's selected
[10:52] <bulmer> MTec007: you can try one of the consoles...ctrl+alt+F2 and see if you get a prompt <-- did you try this yet?
[10:52] <MTec007> loading...
[10:52] <MTec007> i was at boot menu
[10:52] <billy> I thought most drivers were already in the kernel.
[10:52] <skreet> Thanks, all.
[10:52] <Maul555> whoops, nm... hrmm...
[10:53] <Maul555> hardware acceleration doesnt seem to be working...
[10:53] <drkanzie> bulmer, Always forget the name of my card, it is Nvidia 9800GTX or something similar, 256mb onboard and 2gb RAM
[10:53] <sebrock> still no one here to guide me with devilspie..?
[10:53] <drkanzie> bulmer, it was "the shit" about a year ago
[10:53] <fizzmahon> shatrat, worked a charm thanks
[10:53] <alienseer23> !wpc54g
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpc54g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <bulmer> drkanzie: oh okay, you have a pretty good system..just curious as to what specs you got going to have beryl working
[10:54] <sbn> Is there a boot parameterfor vesa driver?
[10:54] <MTec007> bulmer i got the normal no X prompt
[10:54] <eshaase> i've noticed that firefox lags my entire system when i visit certain sites, is there a way to prevent this from hapenning?
[10:54] <Pulshion> Does anyone know why when i run video on video-out on my tv the video is cropped?
[10:54] <dimeotane> anyone know a command to list the detected modes of my burner?
[10:54] <drkanzie> bulmer, Beryl works on pretty low-end systems actually, but yeah, I never have any performance-issues in anything 3d-related with my setup
[10:54] <bulmer> MTec007: you can try one of the consoles...ctrl+alt+F2 and see if you get a prompt <-- did you try this yet?
[10:54] <MTec007> bulmer i got the normal no X prompt
[10:55] <bulmer> MTec007: login console is what's called
[10:55] <sbn> Is there a boot parameter for setting that X uses the vesa driver?
[10:55] <garuhhh> hi! is there any available messenger client supporting voice and video for linux?
[10:55] <Pulshion> Does anyone know why when i run video on video-out on my tv the video is cropped?
[10:55] <MTec007> bulmer yes that
[10:56] <shatrat> fizzmahon, glad to hear that.  Stick with open source drivers on that card. ;D
[10:56] <bulmer> MTec007: then i think for some reason you have a bad cd..or it didnt like your video card/monitor combo
[10:56] <MTec007> cd should be good
[10:57] <bulmer> MTec007: should be...but do a test on it ..its on the menu
[10:57] <sbn> Is there a boot parameter for setting that X uses the vesa driver?
[10:57] <Jowi> Pulshion, can be a number of things. the first that comes to my mind is incorrect vertrefresh rate in xorg.conf (or panel size in CMOS/BIOS might also affect it depends on your hardware)
[10:57] <MTec007> can i install from the login console? do i need to be in X to do that?
[10:58] <MTec007> bulmer can i install from the login console? do i need to be in X to do that?
[10:58] <w0pr> hi there
[10:58] <Jowi> MTec007, use the alternate cd for text based install
[10:58] <sbn> MTec007 the alterate cd is made for that
[10:58] <w0pr> :)
[10:58] <Theory5> hello
[10:58] <AngryElf> huh, almost 2 years w/ ubuntu and the font settings actually work and make things better
[10:58] <AngryElf> it would have been nice if i noticed that sooner
[10:58] <AngryElf> :?
[10:58] <bulmer> MTec007: not once you are booting off of a liveCD
[10:59] <superkirbyartist> Hi everyone.  I am trying to turn on my swap partition automatically.  Can someone help please?
[10:59] <nekr0z> ant30: Wasn't that you named _ant_ some time ago on this channel?
[10:59] <MTec007> bulmer okay so how can i tone down the resolution to say 800x600?
[10:59] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: in the install guide.. i believe it tells you what to put into fstab
[10:59] <MTec007> (from login console)
[10:59] <superkirbyartist> LadyNikon: Where can I find the install guide?
[10:59] <ant30> nekr0z, I'm ant30 or ant30_ if the nick aren't recognized
[10:59] <LadyNikon> oh wait
[11:00] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: sorry wrong channel
[11:00] <LadyNikon> i thought this was gentoo >.<
[11:00] <Theory5> hey i just installed Ubuntu server edition but when i started it up GRUB loaded, how do i get to use the desktop?
[11:00] <joshjosh> Theory5: there is no GUI
[11:00] <nekr0z> ant30: I see, sorry. I just wanted to thank that guy, he helped me a lot :)))
[11:00] <w0pr> i explane my problem.. i hope someone can help me :) I upgrade dapper to edgy, and eht0 doesn't come up. /etc/network/interfaces isa here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9701/ i donno how to fix it! Someone can help me pls?
[11:00] <Jowi> Theory5, you install an xserver
[11:00] <Xenguy> Theory5: servers typically don't install desktop/GUI
[11:00] <acrophoric> hi guys
[11:00] <LadyNikon> Theory5: you dont get a GUI with server
[11:01] <bulmer> MTec007: you may want to try the "alternative cd" install as oppose to liveCD ..
[11:01] <Jowi> Theory5, "ubuntu-desktop" contain everything you need including gnome.
[11:01] <rdw200169> Theory5: what are you trying to do?
[11:01] <superkirbyartist> LadyNikon I need help.
[11:01] <superkirbyartist> It always forces me to go to gparted and do a swapon.
[11:01] <Jowi> Theory5, or you can install xserver + any other wm
[11:01] <sbn> How can I let the liveCD use the vesa driver?
[11:01] <LadyNikon> superkirbyartist: what are you trying to do?
[11:01] <LadyNikon> i never had a problem with swap before.
[11:02] <PriceChild> HEy superkirbyartist , we need to edit your /etc/fstab file
[11:02] <acrophoric> hey guys i have absolutely 0 experience with linux, and i thought i'd give it a shot tonight. I wanted to install the nvidia drivers but things went terribly bad. can anyone give me a hand?
[11:02] <_Krull_> ok...in a week or two I will get partition magic in the mail to restore my windoz partition to its original size, Right now I want to remove the program that starts before windows and gives me the selection, can someone please guide me thru this (other computer)
[11:02] <PriceChild> acrophoric, explain what went bad, how you tried to install.
[11:02] <Theory5> how do i get to ubuntu-desktop?
[11:02] <superkirbyartist> LadyNikon: I want the swap to be turned on when my computer starts, rather than having to go to system > admin > gparted
[11:02] <Jowi> Theory5, here's a few examples for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[11:02] <n-iCe> How can I install Shockwave ? for play games
[11:02] <adrian_> shatrat: i got into trouble with this installation too
[11:02] <Xenguy> !nvidia > acrophoric
[11:02] <Jowi> Theory5, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" but check the previous link i gave you first to see if that might suite you better
[11:03] <acrophoric> i used the Envy program to install the drivers and after i rebooted, it gave me an API mismatch error
[11:03] <superkirbyartist> LadyNikon and PriceChild: What to put it /etc/fstab?
[11:03] <acrophoric> and i had no clue how to proceed
[11:03] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, could you pastebin your current /etc/fstab and tell me if you know which harddrive & partition the swap is on.
[11:03] <n-iCe> !es
[11:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:03] <sbn> How can I let the liveCD use the vesa driver?
[11:03] <superkirbyartist> PriceChild I'll just paste it in #ubuntu-bots
[11:03] <PriceChild> sbn, choose "safe graphics mode"
[11:03] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, no
[11:03] <n-iCe> How can I install Shockwave ? for play games
[11:03] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, please pastebin it
[11:04] <shatrat> adrian_, haha, well bookmark i tand try again when youre brave.  in the meantime download the DC++ windows installer to your desktop or something and then do "wine /home/username/Desektop/dcplusplusinstaller.exe" or whatever the file name is.
[11:04] <sbn> PriceChild I said already it doesn't work!
[11:04] <superkirbyartist> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:04] <PriceChild> n-iCe, there is no version of shockwave for linux.
[11:04] <funkyHat> Anyone else having serious problems with gnome-session?
[11:04] <PriceChild> sbn, well then vesa doesn't work afaik
[11:04] <shatrat> adrian_, hopefully someone will create a package for dc++ in the future
[11:04] <n-iCe> PriceChild,  then what i can do
[11:04] <_Krull_> !uninstall
[11:04] <LadyNikon> " my irl life is calling.." isnt that redundant?
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <PriceChild> sbn, you could try booting up... ctrl+alt+f1 edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the device driver to vesa then restarting X.... but I'm pretty sure that safe mode uses it anyway
[11:05] <joshjosh> n-iCe, You can download the windows 32 version of firefox, then run it through wine and install shockwave that way
[11:05] <sbn> Well, I'm using the livecd
[11:05] <Theory5> i dont get what i need to do to get Ubuntu into the desktop
[11:05] <n-iCe> joshjosh,  i'm in swiftfox
[11:05] <sbn> I'm trying to install the ubuntu
[11:05] <sbn> but alternative isn't working probaly
[11:05] <adrian_> shatrat: about almost all the way down it says: Next is to install the actual dcpp program so switch to the linuxdcpp directory that you downloaded) followed by the code : cd ~/linuxdcpp
[11:05] <phpnub> jrib, no such luck it's really broken. I figured out why it was opening in firefox but nautilus is still broken
[11:05] <superkirbyartist> PriceChild http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9708/
[11:05] <PriceChild> acrophoric, Support in channel please.
[11:05] <adrian_> shtrat: what do you mean?
[11:05] <shatrat> adrian_, hold on while I look at it
[11:06] <acrophoric> ok
[11:06] <acrophoric> so can someone give me a hand in solving the API mismatch error i got after using Envy to install the drivers?
[11:06] <Flannel> sbn: What isn'tworking?
[11:06] <lisapc> i tried to install Ubuntu, but it just stops right after chosing INSTALL, any ideas?
[11:06] <Jowi> Theory5, either 1. download the desktop (a live cd) or the alternative (text basexd installer cd) cd image. or: 2. boot your system, login and type "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[11:06] <Flannel> lisapc: did you verify the cD?
[11:06] <sbn> Flannel the X
[11:06] <g3nocide> how can i specify specific refresh rates for certain resolutions ? now when i set 1600x1200, the refresh (as stated by gnome) is 65Hz. I put a Modeline in config specifying 60Hz, but no go.
[11:06] <Flannel> sbn: Alternate CD doesn't have X
[11:06] <g3nocide> my monitor image goes all wobbly every once in a while, and i think it's because of the refresh rates
[11:06] <sbn> Well Alternate has other problem
[11:07] <lisapc> Flannel verify how?
[11:07] <Flannel> sbn: Eh?  What problems you having with alternate?
[11:07] <sbn> It won't install probaly
[11:07] <MTec007> bulmer i am affected by this "Intel Graphics driver (i810) won't use high screen resolutions" on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:07] <Flannel> lisapc: the "check CD" option (third down, or whatnot)
[11:07] <adrian_> shatrat: i can't find the linuxdcpp it seems
[11:07] <lisapc> Flannel what good is that if it doesnt load anyway
[11:07] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, do you know what your swap is on? e.g. /dev/hdb2 ?
[11:07] <sbn> http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp0960fw0.jpg
[11:07] <bulmer> MTec007: there you go, try another video card perhaps?
[11:07] <MTec007> i have an i810. no other cards
[11:07] <lisapc> Flannel where can I get the latest Kbuntu iso?
[11:08] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, because you need to add a line to /etc/fstab similar to my addition at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9710/ but replacing /dev/foo with the path to yours :)
[11:08] <Theory5> how do i get into desktop with Ubuntu server?>
[11:08] <Flannel> sbn: Which step failed though?
[11:08] <superkirbyartist> PriceChild it is /dev/hda5
[11:08] <Flannel> Theory5: the server doesn't have a desktop, so you'll need to install one
[11:08] <TheStef> got Feisty Ubuntu 7.04 alpha running
[11:08] <PriceChild> Theory5, Ubuntu server doesn't include a desktop. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get one
[11:08] <TheStef> it rocks
[11:08] <Theory5> i did that
[11:08] <Symmetria> heh
[11:08] <Theory5> i did the apt-get
[11:08] <Flannel> sbn: did you verify the CD?
[11:08] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, then do you see where you need to write "/dev/hda5" in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9710/ ?
[11:08] <Symmetria> I just added ubuntu cdimage set to the .za mirror
[11:08] <depinko> how is it possible to empty swap?
[11:08] <Symmetria> wheeeeeeeeeeee
[11:08] <lisapc> where can I get the latest Kbuntu iso?
[11:08] <PriceChild> depinko, "empty"?
[11:08] <Robert1> bulmer: looked on the web couldn't find what I am after. Did find a very long sources.lst file but was to chicken to blindly add it all. Which repository has the LAMP stack?
[11:09] <depinko> PriceChild: to "delete" it
[11:09] <Flannel> Theory5: then reboot and you'll get GDM, Um, I'm sure you can get to it otherwise, but... I'm not entirely sure how
[11:09] <Symmetria> lisapc cdimage.ubuntu.com probably
[11:09] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm trying to open an xterm in an Xnest, and I get:
[11:09] <[StingRay] > Hi all. I need some urgent help. I just messed up my system. Is there an automatic repair option with the Live CD? Rescue or something, which will automatically replace system files.
[11:09] <kitsuneofdoom> y
[11:09] <TheStef> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[11:09] <kitsuneofdoom> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont) Serial number of failed request:  61 Current serial number in output stream:  62
[11:09] <shatrat> adrian_, is it on your desktop maybe?  try "find linuxdcpp"
[11:09] <PriceChild> depinko, you could remove it from /etc/fstab then remove the partition using gparted
[11:09] <_Krull_> lisapc ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/ubuntu
[11:09] <Theory5> im rebooting now
[11:09] <sbn> flannel: http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4241/imgp0961vn9.jpg
[11:09] <bigjohnto> anyone know how to recover deleted files in linux please?
[11:09] <Flannel> Robert1: Seveas's has a LAMP metapackage, but without the metapackage, it's still only a half dozen packages.
[11:09] <Flannel> !lamp | Robert1
[11:09] <ubotu> Robert1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:09] <Jowi> bigjohnto, you don't. you restore them from backup
[11:09] <[StingRay] > !rescue
[11:09] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[11:10] <Flannel> sbn: did you verify the CD?
[11:10] <adrian_> shatrat: i think missing downloading since the link didn't work so :)
[11:10] <bulmer> bigjohnto: unless its in the trash still
[11:10] <TheStef> bigjohnto: there are some tools you can download
[11:10] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, how goes?
[11:10] <joshjosh> for some reason i can't click and drag windows in beryl...it just ceased to work
[11:10] <PriceChild> joshjosh, > #ubuntu-effects
[11:10] <sbn> Flannel yeah
[11:10] <sbn> but with md5sum I got 1 error
[11:10] <_Krull_> People, what is the program installed on my PC that boots to choose which OS I wish to boot?
[11:10] <Flannel> sbn: Er, if the md5sum of your ISO has an error, then you can't burn a good CD
[11:10] <adrian_> shatrat got a link for linuxdcpp where i can download it?
[11:10] <[StingRay] > Can somebody help me with the rescue of my system?
[11:10] <lisapc> what would cause Ubuntu to stop installing right after first menu?  it just stops
[11:11] <Jowi> joshjosh, right click on the beryl icon and restart the window decorator might help
[11:11] <Flannel> _Krull_: Grub
[11:11] <bulmer> _Krull_: boot loader
[11:11] <sbn> flannel burned cd gave it
[11:11] <Theory5> it went back into text mode, not desktop!
[11:11] <Flannel> lisapc: a bad burn
[11:11] <shatrat> adrian_, do you see the step that starts with "sudo cvs -d....."  that is the step that logs into their CVS server and then downloads the source.  Did that not work?
[11:11] <Theory5> please help
[11:11] <superkirbyartist> PriceChild, I don't know what to type.
[11:11] <Flannel> Theory5: do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:11] <_Krull_> bulmer, is it on the linux partition?
[11:12] <Flannel> sbn: does the iso you downloaded have a good md5?
[11:12] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" to open the file. Then make it look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9712/ then save. then "sudo mount -a"
[11:12] <lisapc> Flannel how do I do a good burn? :P
[11:12] <sbn> Flannel yes
[11:12] <lisapc> Flannel can I check the ubuntu ISO before burning?
[11:12] <Flannel> lisapc, sbn: Verify your ISO (check the md5), then burn again at 4x
[11:12] <Flannel> !md5 | lisapc
[11:12] <ubotu> lisapc: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:12] <shatrat> adrian_, I just followed those two steps and managed to download the cvs source code, so I know it works.
[11:13] <bulmer> _Krull_: grub ? its there
[11:13] <acrophoric> Can anyone give me a hand with an API mismatch error after using Envy to install nvidia drivers?
[11:13] <Flannel> _Krull_: It's split up (grub is two stages), one is in your MBR of your HD, the other is on a partition,
[11:13] <hopeless> hi! i've currently got working fedora and windows partitions on my computer, but i'm looking to try ubuntu. have any of you guys ever switched linux distros? is there a good way to do it in a safe and reversible way?
[11:13] <adrian_> shatrat:that did work, but I can't find it :(
[11:13] <superkirbyartist> PriceChild, thanks, I will try it out.
[11:13] <Flannel> hopeless: You want to install ubuntuovertop of fedora?
[11:13] <hopeless> no
[11:13] <Flannel> hopeless: you want to triple boot?
[11:14] <hopeless> ideally, i'd like to shrink my windows partition down as small as possible
[11:14] <Theory5>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start didnt work, says command not found for /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:14] <hopeless> and then install ubunto
[11:14] <rotemj> anyone, system recovery after installing a graphic driver that fuckedup the whole system?
[11:14] <hopeless> but if ubuntu doesn't work out, fedora will still be there
[11:14] <adrian_> shatrat where is linuxdcpp located then, should be the same for everybody right?
[11:14] <shatrat> adrian_, well, it should have created a directory named "linuxdcpp" in whatever directory you were in at the time, probably /home/adrian
[11:14] <hopeless> so yeah, triple booting would be ideal
[11:14] <bulmer> hopeless: yes it will retain the old os as long as you dont use their partitions
[11:15] <adrian_> shatrat: i searched for it in the filesystem bu no luck :(
[11:15] <Theory5>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start didnt work
[11:15] <Flannel> hopeless: right.  Ok, you'll want the alternate CD (not the desktop CD), then you shrink windows, install ubuntu onto that partition, and then when it asks about installing grub, you don't want to install a bootloader.  Then you'll have to manually add ubuntu to your fedora grub menu (or you can install Ubuntu's grub, and then manually add fedoras entries to the grub menu)
[11:15] <Jowi> Theory5, what error did you get?
[11:15] <Dimitri> hey all
[11:15] <_Krull_> thanks bulmer....Flannel, ......Flannel, or bulmer, I got a live CD that mounts and deals with dos mounted partitions.....what files do I remove on MBR to remove GRUB and bootloader?
[11:16] <Flannel> hopeless: the only issues you'll have is with bootloading (although not a very big issue)
[11:16] <hopeless> i'm sorry... what i'm really asking is, i know a lot of people switch from one linux distro to another. i'm wondering how they went about doing it.
[11:16] <Theory5>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start didnt work for trying to get the desktop up.
[11:16] <duneatreides> Hello all
[11:16] <k4zzy> Hello. I'm having trouble booting into my fresh install of ubuntu-server. The install seemed to have gone fine, but when it boots up I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9713/  Then, nothing further happens. The only thing that seems to happen after this is a cycling of my 6 SCSI drives (RAID 1).
[11:16] <Flannel> _Krull_: Just install whatever other bootloader you want overtop
[11:16] <shatrat> adrian_, try running those two cvs commands again from the how-to and then "ls linuxdcpp"  to list the file
[11:16] <hopeless> why will boot loading be an issue? grub will recognize my existing windows and fedora systems, right?
[11:16] <acrophoric> Anyone please! i am completely clueless, someone steer me in the right direction. "API mismatch error, the NVIDIA kernel module has the version...." i have no idea what to do after using Envy to install nvidia drivers
[11:17] <arrummzen> I enabled the universe repository, but I still can't install emacs or xemacs?
[11:17] <Jowi> Theory5, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set up the drivers/monitor/keyboard/mouse. then try again.
[11:17] <raven3x7> im on 64bit Edgy and am trying to install wine. im trying to compile it against 32bit libs which are installed but configure doesnt find them even though i specify it to look in /lib32 . anyone can help?
[11:17] <_Krull_> Flannel, I want windows only on this pc, someone is giving me their old pc, so I will install ubuntu on it
[11:17] <Flannel> Theory5: If you don't have that file, It sounds like ubuntu-desktop didn't install properly
[11:17] <voidmage> hopeless: If you have /home on a separate partition and your important config files backed up, you can just install the new distro over your old /, keeping /home as it is
[11:17] <MTec007> bulmer thanks for you help, but i dont want s distro if its this difficult to install and work correctly.
[11:17] <duneatreides> Hello everyone, I have a question about tar
[11:17] <erstazi> Is there a way to have any popup alerts when a crash occurs instead of the top panel?
[11:17] <Flannel> _Krull_: You'll need to get a windows CD, and then run 'fixmbr'
[11:17] <Theory5> so how do i install it properly?
[11:17] <voidmage> Flannel: isn't it fdisk /mbr ?
[11:18] <duneatreides> does the options on tar -xzvf matter?
[11:18] <Maul555> billy:  holy shit, i know what was up with the nvidia problem!!!!  the fan on the vid card doesnt work, it was overheating when i ran opengl apps... lol!!!
[11:18] <goodtimes> So i pull out my keyboard and i pull out my glock, and i dismount your girl and i mount slash proc (/proc)
[11:18] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Maul555
[11:18] <ubotu> Maul555: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:18] <Jowi> Theory5, did you recieve any error when you installed ubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <Theory5> nope
[11:18] <duneatreides> does the order on the -xzvf on the tar command matter
[11:18] <Flannel> Theory5: Wait, you're installing a fresh copy of windows?
[11:18] <voidmage> duneatreides: nope
[11:18] <_Krull_> ok, thanks for all the help Flannel!
[11:18] <Jowi> Maul555, ouch
[11:18] <Flannel> Theory5: sorry, that was for _Krull_
[11:18] <bulmer> MTec007: honestly, i find it difficult too when i first installed it, my choice is SuSE as primary..but i want to be able to use deb style too..so i learned this
[11:18] <Flannel> eh, now I'm confusing myself.
[11:19] <adrian_> shatrat: the code:sudo  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.linuxdcpp.berlios.de:/cvsroot/linuxdcpp co linuxdcpp is the second code,right?
[11:19] <billy> Maul555: the other day I couldn't figure out why my floppy drive wouldn't mount.  Turns out the thing wasn't plugged into a power source. :)
[11:19] <duneatreides> i'm am looking at the tar --help, and I can not figure out how to use the -C option
[11:19] <voidmage> duneatreides: look in 'man tar'
[11:19] <Theory5> after i did sudo aptitude install Ubuntu-desktop a gui thing came up and asked me about how i wanted to recive mail so i did that and then it went back to text
[11:19] <shatrat> adrian_, I dont believe you need a sudo for the second one
[11:19] <duneatreides> is it tar -C=DIR, or tar -C DIR?
[11:20] <lisapc> is line speed is 10.5 Mbps (10502 kbps) any good?
[11:20] <bulmer> lisapc: thats fast enuff for me
[11:20] <shatrat> lisapc, cable speed
[11:20] <raven3x7> im on 64bit Edgy and am trying to install wine. im trying to compile it against 32bit libs which are installed but configure doesnt find them even though i specify it to look in /lib32 . anyone can help?
[11:20] <adrian_> shatrat: should i just tyoe in cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.linuxdcpp.berlios.de:/cvsroot/linuxdcpp co linuxdcpp then?
[11:20] <crdlb> duneatreides, doesn't matter afaik
[11:20] <Theory5> so what should i do now?
[11:20] <Flannel> !chroot | raven3x7
[11:20] <ubotu> raven3x7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:21] <Jowi> duneatreides, probably tar -C DIR or tar --directory=DIR
[11:21] <shatrat> adrian_, that looks good.  just paste everything after the $ in the how-to
[11:21] <rwxr-xr--> lisapc:  its really gr8 and Fastest .. l0ol i have just 500+ kbs
[11:21] <lisapc> shatrat you serious?  thats cable speed?  because I only got a new broadband
[11:21] <Flannel> Theory5: You're sure you don't have /etc/init.d/gdm?
[11:21] <crdlb> duneatreides, I usually do tar -C
[11:21] <Megaqwerty> can I tar a file to a DVD? If so...how?
[11:21] <k4zzy> How can I add "acpi=off" to the boot options on a server-install that hangs at startup on a PCI allocate error? Thanks.
[11:21] <joe4444> anyone know how to match BIOS settings with RAM's CL?
[11:21] <shatrat> lisapc, cable = broadband?
[11:21] <lisapc> rwxr-xr-- thats interesting seeing I only have broadband
[11:21] <Jowi> Theory5, what error did you get exactly when trying to start gdm?
[11:21] <bulmer> lisapc: why the concern of such speeds? you download a lot or upload a lot?
[11:21] <Andune> I need help with a hardware RAID.
[11:21] <Theory5> it said it was not found
[11:21] <Theory5> the command
[11:21] <Theory5> was not found
[11:21] <Andune> I got advice from here a few nights ago to try the alternate CD, but it still doesn't detect it
[11:22] <adrian_> shatrat: then the cvs wasn't found?
[11:22] <Flannel> k4zzy: The boot screen is a little GUI menu on the server CD, right?  You push one of the F keys to get to advanced/expert/whatever where you can give options
[11:22] <hopeless> voidimage: aaahhhhh, thanks!!! i do have /home on a separate partition. however, i've heard that there can be problems sharing the same /home partition between two different distros because of the program configuration files kept hidden in /home. i don't want to destroy my fedora / partition because of some stuff, like a custom-compiled version of audacity, that i don't want to lose in case ubuntu doesn't work out. is there a way to cre
[11:22] <Andune> I have a hardware mirror (RAID-0) of two disks.  Windows lives on the first half, and sees and uses the mirror just fine.
[11:22] <Jowi> Theory5, so ubuntu-desktop was not installed properly. try this again: "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[11:22] <k4zzy> Flannel: Thanks :)
[11:22] <Andune> but when I load Ubuntu (desktop or alternate), it only sees the raw disks and does not see the hardware RAID mirror.
[11:22] <Theory5> k
[11:22] <Jowi> Theory5, do not do anything while it is installing
[11:22] <lisapc> shatrat but it also says: yline speed is 10.5 Mbps (10502 kbps) and your download speed is 1.28 MB/s (1313 KB/s).
[11:22] <arrummzen> hmmmm.... It looks like the Ubuntu system is version "Dapper", but I need a package that is only in feisty. Is there a way to install feisty packages in dapper?
[11:23] <eck> Andune: you need to have the kernel module for your raid card and set up mdadm
[11:23] <lagarto> !beryl
[11:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:23] <shatrat> adrian_, hmm, maybe you need to install CVS.  "sudo apt-get install cvs"
[11:23] <PriceChild> !revu | arrummzen
[11:23] <ubotu> arrummzen: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[11:23] <joe4444> hopeless, you just want to try ubuntu?
[11:23] <sebrock> my commands in .devilspie does not work. Nothing happens
[11:23] <PriceChild> arrummzen, argh not that...
[11:23] <Andune> I've run Fedora for years, and am familiar with the software RAID configuration, but would much rather use the hardware RAID on my mobo.
[11:23] <PriceChild> !prevu | arrummzen
[11:23] <ubotu> arrummzen: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[11:23] <Megaqwerty> I want to tar my filesystem to a DVD, assuming there is enough space on the DVD, how would I go about doing this?
[11:23] <lisapc> does that mean my line speed can do 10.5 Mbps (10502 kbps), but al im getting is download speed is 1.28 MB/s (1313 KB/s)?
[11:23] <jrib> sebrock: did you restart devilspie after adding the rules?
[11:23] <Andune> eck:  hmm.  ok I'll do some research on that.  thanks.
[11:23] <shatrat> lisapc, that seems pretty good to me.  download speed is limited by things other than your line speed.
[11:23] <acrophoric> Anyone please! i am completely clueless, someone steer me in the right direction. "API mismatch error, the NVIDIA kernel module has the version...." i have no idea what to do after using Envy to install nvidia drivers
[11:23] <sebrock> jrib, yeah I rebooted
[11:23] <bulmer> Megaqwerty: you cant write to DVD with a tar...you have to burn to it
[11:24] <jrib> sebrock: pastebin what you have
[11:24] <sebrock> jrib, I do get debug info
[11:24] <sebrock> ok
[11:24] <Megaqwerty> bulmer: darn, alright.
[11:24] <adrian_> shatrat: did no change though
[11:24] <hopeless> joe4444: yeah, but i want to make sure that it can run the software i use, and i don't think i can do it from a live disk, if that's what you're hinting at
[11:24] <lisapc> shatrat i tried to install Ubuntu and it stops after install menu!  what can i do?
[11:24] <Andune> eck: any chance it's on the disk and I just need to tell it to load, or if it's not auto-detected, it's not there?
[11:24] <adrian_> ah with sudo before it it seemed to work got to the password and all
[11:24] <shatrat> lisapc, stops? what install menu? whats the last thing it says?
[11:25] <bulmer> hopeless: i advised you earlier, have a separate partition for each os you have on
[11:25] <Hisashi> can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[11:25] <lisapc> shatrat the very first menu
[11:25] <adrian_> shatrat: ah with sudo before it it seemed to work got to the password and all
[11:25] <joe4444> hopeless, no i was going to suggest VMware... i used it on XP to try out ubuntu and other distros until i was comfortable enough to format and drop XP for good =)
[11:25] <shatrat> lisapc, using the desktop disk, or the alternative disk?
[11:25] <Andune> !mdadm
[11:25] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[11:25] <eck> Andune: i think that's likely; i think it's really a matter of getting the kernel to see the raid card
[11:25] <Hisashi> lol... then i'll explain.. i've installed the non-legacy nvidia driver... but i need legacy driver... but in my distro legacy driver by apt-get is disable... can i install the one i've download from nvidia website?
[11:25] <rotemj> hisashi, are you having the same problem as us?
[11:25] <sebrock> jrib, here you go mate: http://www.pastebin.ca/389727
[11:25] <jrib> sebrock: one sec (phone)
[11:25] <shatrat> adrian_, which command seems to work? installing cvs? or using cvs to log into the source code repo?
[11:26] <lisapc> shatrat the desktop CD
[11:26] <voidmage> hopeless: I just keep my XP drives around for the rare rare time I have to boot into xp (flashing my bios or other weird windows-only programs i don't trust wine with my life) or if i need some file from there i haven't copied yet
[11:26] <lisapc> shatrat ANY solutions?
[11:26] <PriceChild> Hisashi, why can't you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy? What you want is possible though
[11:26] <Andune> eck:  ok.  I wouldn't think I'd need mdadm, since Linux should be largely unaware of the RAID.  It's in the hardware.  I'll go research, thanks for the tip..
[11:26] <raven3x7> Flannel, thanks
[11:26] <adrian_> shatrat: by typing in "sudo cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.linuxdcpp.berlios.de:/cvsroot/linuxdcpp co linuxdcpp" i got to the password and beyond it
[11:26] <shatrat> lisapc, the first menu is the one that lets you pick language right?  Does clicking Next or whatever do nothing?
[11:26] <Hisashi> i know but it answers me that it's not disponible
[11:26] <adrian_> shatrat: is that correct?
[11:26] <lisapc> shatrat shall I try kbuntu instead?
[11:27] <hopeless> bulmer: but i don't have space to create a second /home partition, and i'm worried that ubuntu will alter the configurations kept in my home folder. is this a real problem?
[11:27] <shatrat> adrian_, greart, now do the next part and it should download a ton of stuff
[11:27] <lisapc> shatrat LOL
[11:27] <fo1> hi, when i minimize programs they simply disappear and don't go to my system tray.  any ideas?
[11:27] <Hisashi> oh
[11:27] <Hisashi> it worked now
[11:27] <eck> Andune: yeah, i think you're right -- the key thing is that most "hardware RAID" controllers don't entirely implement raid in hardware, they actually require some firmware or driver to be loaded by the kernel to interact with the raid controller
[11:27] <adrian_> shatrat: what do you mean?
[11:27] <lisapc> where can I get latest stable Kbuntu?
[11:27] <shatrat> lisapc, well, if the liveCD is hanging then you would be better off trying the alternative installer.  You can download it from the same place.  It isnt as pretty but it is more reliable.  Some hardware just doesnt like the liveCD
[11:27] <bulmer> hopeless: another way is to use vmware. or buy another hd to install things to
[11:27] <Hisashi> i've done that by 2 days ago and it failed tks
[11:27] <Theory5> now its saying ubuntu-desktop is an ivaild operation
[11:28] <hopeless> hmm okay. thanks all!
[11:28] <fo1> (they're still running, because if i minimize, say, firefox, and then click on the icon again, it'll come back up on the same page)
[11:28] <shatrat> adrian_, the next step that says "cvs -z3 -d: ...."
[11:28] <Jowi> hopeless, simply create a different user at install time. they should not collide.
[11:28] <Andune> eck:  ahhh.  I see.  OK well I'll go figure out what I've got and how to tell Ubuntu to see it.
[11:28] <Theory5> what do i do now its saying ubuntu-desktop is an invaild operation plz help
[11:28] <jrib> sebrock: you have some syntax errors, to have multiple actions, you need to use (begin)
[11:28] <rwxr-xr--> i just install Opera browser .. but its the iCon is not come in menu?
[11:28] <lisapc> shatrat LOL! i never said LIve CD
[11:29] <adrian_> shatrat: that the code i got through just now
[11:29] <shatrat> lisapc, you said its the "desktop" installer and not "alternative" installer, am I right?
[11:29] <lisapc> shatrat it was the 6.10 dekstop iso
[11:29] <Flannel> Theory5: What command is an invalid operation?
[11:29] <jrib> sebrock: it doesn't really make sense to set two workspaces though, is that what youw ant?
[11:29] <sebrock> jrib, no that was just for testing
[11:29] <Jowi> Theory5, download the desktop or alternate cd. that might suit you better and save you from headache if you're new to the system.
[11:29] <Galga> what is the command in text mode to start ubuntu installation
[11:29] <adrian_> shatrat: the one without sudo in it
[11:29] <shatrat> lisapc, yes, that isa  liveCD, it loads the whole OS into memory and it looks pretty but sometimes it falls on it's face.
[11:29] <rwxr-xr--> when i type on terminal opera the opera window comes
[11:29] <lisapc> shatrat is the 6.10 dekstop iso the livcecd?
[11:29] <sebrock> jrib, all I want really is to center all windows on opening
[11:29] <Theory5> How do i download the desktop????
[11:29] <shatrat> adrian_, ok, so now "ls linuxdcpp" should say something, right?
[11:30] <jrib> sebrock: get rid of the firefox stuff in config.ds, make a new firefox.ds and place a single rule there
[11:30] <Flannel> lisapc: "Desktop" CDs are liveCDs (with installers), Alternate CDs are just installers
[11:30] <Jowi> Theory5, generally the server cd is more advanced
[11:30] <lisapc> shatrat so what shall I do?  my objective is to install Ubuntu on HDD
[11:30] <Flannel> Theory5: What command did you give?
[11:30] <Jowi> Theory5, from http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <sebrock> jrib, how would I do If I want all windows to start centered
[11:30] <Theory5> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <adrian_> shatrat: do I just type: ls linuxdcpp?
[11:30] <lisapc> Flannel so I can get the Alternate CD and it will install Ubuntu on my HDD?
[11:30] <Flannel> Theory5: and what error did you get exactly?
[11:30] <joe4444> hopeless, see my comment about VMware?
[11:30] <Flannel> lisapc: yeah
[11:30] <shatrat> lisapc, well, you could try the normal liveCD installer one more time, with graphics safe settings at the boot prompt.  if it still hangs up I would download and use the Alternative installer.
[11:30] <fo1> oh, i need to add windows to my panel
[11:30] <fo1> fixed
[11:31] <Flannel> lisapc: and, the alternate CD has a bunch of other stuff on the CD, you can use it as a repository
[11:31] <shatrat> adrian_, yes, just to check that it is there. or just "ls" and look for it
[11:31] <lisapc> Flannel but if the livecd wont even load, doesnt that mean my notebook is not supported?
[11:31] <jrib> sebrock: (if (is (application_name) "Firefox") (center))
[11:31] <Flannel> lisapc: nope
[11:31] <jrib> I think
[11:31] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone have a howto on getting compiz to work in 6.10 ?
[11:31] <Flannel> lisapc: liveCD, because of space, has to make some sacrifices in terms of hardare compat
[11:31] <jrib> !compiz | Hydr0p0nX
[11:31] <ubotu> Hydr0p0nX: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:31] <lisapc> Flannel so in your advice I should get the ubuntu Alternative  iso?
[11:31] <Flannel> Hydr0p0nX: #ubuntu-effects will hook you up
[11:31] <sebrock> jrib, I have tried it... doesnt work
[11:31] <Flannel> lisapc: that's all I download anymore
[11:31] <rwxr-xr--> i just install the opera browser .. but the icon is not in menu anywhere.. but when i type opera on terminal the browser window open .. how can i fix
[11:31] <rwxr-xr--> ?
[11:31] <Theory5> E: Invailid operation ubuntu-desktop thats what it says
[11:31] <jrib> sebrock: you created a seperated .ds file?
[11:31] <Hydr0p0nX> thanks
[11:32] <lisapc> Flannel ok :) where can I download the 6.10 alternative Ubuntu Iso?
[11:32] <voidmage> Theory5: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <sebrock> Im gonna do a new one
[11:32] <sebrock> from start
[11:32] <Flannel> Theory5: Then that's not the command you're giving it.  You missed the 'install'
[11:32] <shatrat> rwxr-xr--, you can create a menu entry for it by right clicking the Applications menu, although it automatically made one for me in the Internet section...
[11:32] <sebrock> jrib, do I need any other command than the if?
[11:32] <Dimitri> Where can I find a place to download castle wolfenstien: enemy territory?
[11:32] <adrian_> shatrat: it just check my username dir, it's not there
[11:32] <Dimitri> It's not in repos
[11:32] <Flannel> lisapc: same place you download the desktop.  You'll need to click "More Install Options" though
[11:32] <jrib> sebrock: what I said should be enough, this is really good btw: http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie
[11:33] <Flannel> Dimitri: check the forums (ubuntuforums.org), there are a few HowTos
[11:33] <sebrock> jrib, on the forums this is said to open all windows centered: (if (not (is (window_class) "Gnome-panel")) (center))
[11:33] <rwxr-xr--> shatrat:  i checked in Applications Menu.. but the icon is not there
[11:33] <sebrock> but nothing happens for me
[11:33] <voidmage> lisapc: http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[11:33] <Theory5> so i  did
[11:33] <shatrat> adrian_, when you ran the second command did it list a whole bunch of files? There should have been a long output.
[11:33] <Theory5> thanks'
[11:33] <lisapc> Flannel is this the one: "Kubuntu 6.10 - alternaitve-i386.iso" ?
[11:33] <shatrat> rwxr-xr--, well, like I said you can make one, it's not that hard but you might have to find an opera icon
[11:33] <Flannel> lisapc: that'll give you Kubuntu, so if that's what you want, yeah.
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> rwxr-xr--, it's possible that you might have to logout then login before the menu entry appears
[11:33] <jman_> hi all I am trying to get my wireless card to work., i installed with ndiswrapper but nothing it's not coming up in the network configuration properties dialog any ideas?
[11:33] <lisapc> Flannel is kbuntu better than ubuntu?
[11:33] <adrian_> shatrat: no it didn't just password, I hit enter then nothing
[11:33] <jrib> sebrock: but did you create a seperate .ds for the rule?  I'm not sure if having multiple rules like you had in a single config.ds will work
[11:34] <Hisashi> hey when i install nvidia driver.. should xorg.conf change in someway?
[11:34] <rwxr-xr--> TheGateKeeper:  Should be.. :) so i try that ..
[11:34] <Hisashi> cause i've just done that and it remais the same
[11:34] <jrib> Hisashi: after running nvidia-xconfig, yes
[11:34] <shatrat> adrian_, now do "cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.linuxdcpp.berlios.de:/cvsroot/linuxdcpp co linuxdcpp"
[11:34] <sebrock> jrib, Ok now I have that one in a ds for it own
[11:34] <Hisashi> oh
[11:34] <Flannel> lisapc: Not better, just different
[11:34] <joshjosh> jman_ did you sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf?
[11:34] <lisapc> voidmage ok, im now dl Kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[11:34] <sebrock> jrib, guess I have to restart X? how do I do this without rebooting?
[11:34] <Flannel> lisapc: like most things in Linux, it's all personal preference
[11:34] <duneatreides> i downloaded the source code for abiword, I untared in to a directory [ /home/(USER)/downloads ] , I cd'ed into the abiword directory, and I try ./configure and i get the error  " ./configure: No such file or directory"
[11:34] <D--> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:34] <lisapc> Flannel im now dl Kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.
[11:34] <sebrock> alt+cntl+backspace does not work
[11:34] <l2s> hi i installed 6.06 server and it stops booting at ubuntu server 6.06 running local boot script
[11:35] <jrib> sebrock: nah, just:  killall devilspie; devilspie
[11:35] <Flannel> duneatreides: why are you compiling Abiword?
[11:35] <sebrock> ok
[11:35] <l2s> is it supposed to goto a prompt or is that where it is supposed to stop
[11:35] <jman_> joshjosh, I beleive so but i'll try it again brb
[11:35] <D--> killall -9 X?
[11:35] <joshjosh> jman_ alright.
[11:35] <k4zzy> I can't seem to get past a PCI allocation error on startup after a fresh install of ubuntu-server. Any suggestions?
[11:35] <lisapc> Flannel if it stops during install and stuffs up my boot sectors. how can I recover the system?
[11:35] <adrian_> shatrat: same as before: bash cvs cannot be found
[11:35] <Jowi> l2s, you're supposed to get a prompt
[11:35] <Flannel> lisapc: What are you recovering to?
[11:35] <l2s> its been an hr and no prompt
[11:35] <mcscruff> lo all, how do i use a diff GCC to so when i use make i can cross platform compile
[11:35] <sebrock> jrib, no think I have to restart... or at least dont have any windows open?
[11:35] <jrib> adrian_: have you installed cvs?
[11:36] <l2s> i did the lamp server install from the 6.06 server cd
[11:36] <lisapc> Flannel I have Vista on C: atm, and installing Kbuntu on D:
[11:36] <jrib> sebrock: no, I do it all the time, you just need to kill all the devilspie instances and start a new one
[11:36] <duneatreides> Flannel: jjust as an exercise, to increase my linux profiency, and I just want to run ./configure --help, I do not intend to actually compile abiword
[11:36] <Flannel> mcscruff: you don't need to use a different gcc, you just need ... um, some option will crosscompile.
[11:36] <shatrat> adrian_, what?  do "which cvs"
[11:36] <Jowi> l2s, try some different boot options like turning off acpi
[11:36] <l2s> reinstall?
[11:36] <Flannel> !compile | duneatreides
[11:36] <ubotu> duneatreides: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:36] <lisapc> Flannel can kbuntu installer recognise my empty 20 gig NTFS D: and install unto that?
[11:36] <l2s> how
[11:36] <Flannel> duneatreides: that might be a nice reference.
[11:36] <l2s> it has 2 nics in it and a raid card
[11:36] <l2s> thats it
[11:36] <l2s> power mgt is off in bios
[11:36] <sebrock> jrib, it doesnt go down
[11:36] <jrib> sebrock: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[11:37] <Flannel> lisapc: you might as well resize it in windows, but yeah, the installer can resize NTFS.
[11:37] <bulmer> lisapc: you need to reformat that partition
[11:37] <superm1> currently for a gnome session, gnome-session-save --kill can be used to initiate a logout. is there an equivalent for kde?
[11:37] <adrian_> to honest i don't know, i made it past the code: sudo cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.linuxdcpp.berlios.de:/cvsroot/linuxdcpp login and left the password empty and hit enter
[11:37] <lisapc> bulmer will my C: and E: drives be untouched?
[11:37] <Jowi> !bootoptions | l2s
[11:37] <ubotu> l2s: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:37] <sebrock> jrib, k
[11:37] <jrib> adrian_: why sudo?
[11:37] <shatrat> jrib, it's in the how-to, im not sure either
[11:37] <lisapc> bulmer can I tell ubuntu to install itself and create the swap parition using ONLY the D: ?
[11:37] <shatrat> adrian_, I mean seriously, use the command "which cvs"
[11:37] <Hisashi> how do i close gnome and go to text mode
[11:37] <bulmer> lisapc: correct, only the ones you partition or format
[11:38] <adrian_> jrib what do you mean?
[11:38] <shatrat> adrian_, cause im pretty sure you just installed it
[11:38] <jman_> joshjosh, tried it again still no go :-(
[11:38] <jrib> adrian_: theres no reason to use sudo
[11:38] <Flannel> mcscruff: --target is the option
[11:38] <lisapc> bulmer i have D: emoty its 20gig.  but I need to keep C: for Vista and E: for data!  Can I tell ubuntu to install itself and create the swap parition using ONLY the D: ?
[11:38] <bulmer> lisapc: if you are sharing the hard disk with another os..you need some manual intervention as you may not like what ubuntu chooses
[11:38] <adrian_> jrib: when is it no reason to use sudo?
[11:38] <mcscruff> Flannel: ty
[11:38] <Flannel> lisapc: Drive letters are meaningless.  ARe they separate drives? or partitions?
[11:38] <lisapc> bulmer so how i do that?
[11:39] <noelferreira> hi people. i use wireless driver rt61 and edgy amd64. every time i try to config the file /etc/network/interfaces my system won't start up. i have to delete the file and bring up ra0 manually with dhcp every time i reboot. any help?
[11:39] <jrib> adrian_: cvs just downloads stuff.  So you don't need access to anything outside your home directory
[11:39] <lisapc> Flannel 1 hard drive, with 3 partitions!
[11:39] <bulmer> lisapc: via the parted during install, choose manual
[11:39] <lisapc> bulmer ok chose manual!  and then can I tell it to create a swap partition using only D: and install ubuntu on D:?
[11:39] <shatrat> adrian_, how about i just send you the source code over IRC? lol
[11:40] <bulmer> lisapc: partition accordingly to your liking
[11:40] <bulmer> lisapc: you may even want to have more than 3 partitions
[11:40] <lisapc> bulmer will it then leave C: and E: as it is?
[11:40] <adrian_> jrib:ok, beginning to be really confused here, I'm new at this so
[11:40] <bulmer> lisapc: yes as long as you dont format it
[11:40] <lisapc> bulmer I cant touch C: and E: as they contain data already
[11:40] <joshjosh> jman_ : Hmm.. What ver of ubuntu and what card?
[11:40] <jrib> adrian_: do you understand what sudo does?
[11:41] <lisapc> bulmer so manual , i can tell it to only use D: ok?
[11:41] <bulmer> lisapc: and also do not attempt to re-designate those partitions
[11:41] <lisapc> bulmer  re-designate ?
[11:41] <bulmer> those partitions that have data..
[11:41] <jman_> joshjosh: it's edgy efty and a netgear ma311
[11:41] <null_> Due to a bad CD-ROM, I had to complete most of my install using 'apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.'  This did not automatically install my wireless card.  How can I go about having it recognize and install my card?
[11:41] <shatrat> adrian_, Did you get the file transfer request?
[11:41] <bulmer> lisapc: like choosing which FS a partition should have  == re-designating
[11:42] <adrian_> shatrat: where should I save it?
[11:42] <posingaspopular> null_: ask in #xubuntu
[11:42] <lisapc> bulmer ok! ill only tell it to alter D: and nothing else.
[11:42] <shatrat> adrian_, doesnt matter...but somewhere that you can find it :D
[11:42] <bulmer> lisapc: okay, good luck
[11:42] <lisapc> bulmer so the ubunt installer can use D: to create swap partition on it?
[11:42] <joshjosh> jman_, is it detecting your card?
[11:42] <adrian_> jrib: no i don't know what sudo means, been using ubuntu for 3 days now so
[11:42] <ShiftyPowers> anyone know how to fix this error? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[11:42] <posingaspopular> adrian_: superuser do
[11:43] <lisapc> does the kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386 fit on a 700MB cd-rw?
[11:43] <Jowi> null_, was the base system installed properly from the beginning?
[11:43] <posingaspopular> Su do
[11:43] <eddy> hello, I wouder if there is a other engine for amarok then "xine"
[11:43] <Flannel> lisapc: yeah
[11:43] <crdlb> eddy, gstreamer
[11:43] <lisapc> adrian_ sudo - super user DO
[11:43] <Loonatic64> question.   i have ubuntu installed on 1 hdd and windows installed on a seperate hdd.   i have 3 partitons on my windows drive.  2 are FAT32 and 1 is NTFS.   i have been able to mount the FAT32 drives in ubuntu, but how do i mount my NTFSdrive?
[11:43] <bulmer> lisapc: it can, a swap partition does not have to be in a separate partition, but it is wiser to have it in a separate one, so in your case, add a 4th actually a 5th partition
[11:43] <null_> Jowi, I don't think so.  It had enough to get to the console and for me to finish the install using eth0
[11:43] <lisapc> bulmer i rather leave it all on D: if I can.  can I?
[11:43] <jrib> adrian_: k, well in linux, permissions is a big thing.  Your user (lets say his name is adrian) can only modify files in his $HOME directory (which is /home/adrian usually).  And the rest of the filesystem can only be modified by root (the admin in a way).  To execute things as root you use sudo
 ok thanks but is that beter?
[11:44] <k4zzy> I can't boot into a fresh install of ubuntu-server, I get a PCI allocation error, and it hangs there. I've tried several boot options (ie, noacpi, noapic, nolapic), but I still get the same problem. Can somebody please help me with this?
[11:44] <lisapc> bulmer so ubunti doesnt have to create a seperate partition for swap?
[11:44] <jman_> joshjosh, why wouldn't it, it detected and worked fine during installation?
[11:44] <Magno> holas
 sorry if I spell bad
[11:44] <bulmer> lisapc: you can..but there are extra steps you have to do, like perhaps manually telling which file is a swap
[11:44] <adrian_> posingaspopular: ok is that meant to make me go. Yeah of, course, How clear isn't that now, or what?
[11:44] <crdlb> eddy, you having problems with xine? I like gstreamer though
[11:44] <Loonatic64> does anyone know how i can mount an NTFS drive so i can see it in Ubunut??
[11:44] <bulmer> lisapc: what is the problem of having a 5th partition?
[11:44] <lisapc> bulmer im scared to play around as I cant have C: and E: altered
[11:45] <Flannel> !ntfs | Loonatic64
[11:45] <ubotu> Loonatic64: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:45] <lisapc> bulmer in case something goes wrong, i wont be able to remove those partitions Ubuntu created
[11:45] <bulmer> lisapc: if you are scared, umm get another drive for you to play with :)
[11:45] <adrian_> jrib: okey, finally some logic I can understand some part of :)
[11:45] <Loonatic64> ok thanks
[11:45] <Flannel> lisapc: you might want to do all your partitioning in windows
 how du I get gstreamer?
[11:45] <shatrat> adrian_, well it looks like the transfer got aborted, want me to email it to you?
[11:45] <lisapc> Flannel its done!  i cant now touch C: and E:
[11:45] <Loonatic64> and my next question.    is it possible to run World of Warcraft in Ubuntu??
[11:45] <Flannel> lisapc: Right, I mean split up your second partition into a data and a swap partition
[11:46] <Flannel> Loonatic64: yep.  There are howtos in the forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[11:46] <adrian_> I have accept but nothings happening :(
[11:46] <Spartacus> !su
[11:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:46] <bulmer> lisapc: this is part of the learning process, sometimes you make mistakes..so if you are afraid, then to be safe, get another hard disk
[11:46] <Xenguy> I've read rumours that yes, it is
[11:46] <Jowi> null_, you can try the minimal cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:46] <crdlb> eddy, I don't know, don't really use amarok much, but I don't gstreamer will work better than xine for you
[11:46] <Loonatic64> great.   thank you very much
[11:46] <D_E_M_O_N_X> hi from where i can  find themes for ubuntu ?
[11:46] <posingaspopular> google
[11:46] <shatrat> adrian_, yeah it aborted, im not sure how dcc in irc works but I think one of us needs to have some ports open.  Probably easier just to email it, its only 400k
[11:46] <jrib> !themes | D_E_M_O_N_X
[11:46] <ubotu> D_E_M_O_N_X: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:46] <eddy> ok
[11:46] <Theory5> okay i did that sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop now it did all this stuff downloading and such and now the screen is blank! what do i do?!?!
[11:46] <eddy> thanks!
[11:46] <D_E_M_O_N_X> o thank you
[11:47] <lisapc> bulmer you are not helping, in fact you are now bordering on trolling.  thats NOT a soluition as im not going to buy a new HDD!  I got what I got, thats it!
[11:47] <Jowi> Theory5, that's the screensaver. press space and you will get your screen back.
[11:47] <Flannel> Theory5: the screen is blank, it went to powersaving.  If you want, push space or whatnot, and it'll come back up
[11:47] <xamox> Is there some type of audio panel? where I can change bass, mid, etc.?
[11:47] <Theory5> thansk
[11:47] <Theory5> thanks
[11:47] <bulmer> lisapc it is your choice, am just telling you the fact, if you are too scared....
[11:47] <D_E_M_O_N_X> can i use kde themes on gnome
[11:47] <D_E_M_O_N_X> or no
[11:47] <jrib> D_E_M_O_N_X: no
[11:47] <crdlb> xamox, some media players have equalizers
[11:47] <D_E_M_O_N_X> 'ok
[11:47] <adrian_> shatrat: ok, send it to niringi@yahoo.com
[11:47] <Flannel> D_E_M_O_N_X: no, Gnome themes on gnome (Ubuntu), KDE themes for KDE (Kubuntu), et al.
[11:48] <null_> Jowi, I have Ubuntu up and running.  I just need it to recognize and install my wireless card.  Is there a script I can call?
[11:48] <BigMac> Seveas: you here
[11:48] <duneatreides> i'm having issues with running { ./configure --help  }on the abiword source code that I downloaded.  I keep on receiving the error " no such file or directory"
[11:48] <jrib> D_E_M_O_N_X: you can install kde though and have both gnome and kde
[11:48] <lisapc> bulmer ok cheers :)
[11:48] <lisapc> brb
[11:48] <dimeotane> any suggestions for the best way to do regular system backups to DVD+RW?
[11:48] <Jowi> null_, I don't know
[11:48] <D_E_M_O_N_X> yeah i know
[11:48] <lisapc> bulmer lastly!  IF ubuntu doesnt install proper but wrote the grub. how can i get Vista working again?
[11:48] <Spartacus> Can anyone tell me the difference between su and sudo?
[11:48] <xamox> my audio seems super quiet, I have the volume turned up and my actual hardware volume turned up and it's barely listenable
[11:48] <xamox> cranked up the pre-amp in amarok
[11:48] <D_E_M_O_N_X> from where i can download kde
[11:48] <xamox> doesn't seem to help
[11:48] <cheeseboy> any reason why gfceu disappearswhen i try to configure controls?
[11:48] <dimeotane> Spartacus: su puts you in superuser mode
[11:48] <crdlb> xamox, run the alsamixer command
[11:49] <bulmer> lisapc: i have not toyed with vista yet..so i do not know
[11:49] <dimeotane> Spartacus: sudo just for the single command
[11:49] <Spartacus> ah
[11:49] <Comrade-Sergei> how do you access a folder in terminal with a space in it?
[11:49] <Jowi> xamox, did you connect the plug to line-out or speaker jack?
[11:49] <Flannel> dimeotane, Spartacus, Ubuntu doesn't use su.  If you wan a root prompt, 'sudo -i', but even that is rarely needed
[11:49] <adrian_> shatrat: tell me when you have emailed it, ok?
[11:49] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: escape the space (\ ), if you tab complete, it'll do it for you
[11:49] <Jake> I need help configuring my xorg.conf file, so that  i can have seperate x servers for seperate monitors.
[11:49] <shatrat> adrian_, it's sent
[11:49] <Jowi> xamox, (line-out is generally very quiet)
[11:49] <dimeotane> Flannel: u sure?  I just used su an hour ago (or so I thought)
[11:49] <Flannel> lisapc: You'll recover the windows boot thing, with the windows CD
[11:49] <Spartacus> Well, I'm trying to install Ktoons, the guide says to use su >.>
[11:49] <crdlb> Comrade-Sergei, or put it in quotes
[11:50] <lisapc> bulmer i just learned that I can rezise my 20gig D: from vista!  should I resized it to 19gig and leave a 1 gig partition for Ubuntu?
[11:50] <xamox> Jowi, no, it's like it was working before and fro some reason now it's really quiet
[11:50] <btaylor> Comrade-Sergei: you put it in quotes or you escape the space with a backslash
[11:50] <Flannel> dimeotane: you would've have to previously set a root password.  Which, there's no reason to
[11:50] <Jowi> xamox, run "alsamixer" and have a look. best bet.
[11:50] <lisapc> bulmer yeah, bit that takes 1 hour and 15mins and i lose weeks of updates
[11:50] <dimeotane> Flannel: reason is.. you get tired of sudoing everything sometimes
[11:50] <bulmer> lisapc: why so timid with the space..give it a bit more room..maybe 4 gigs?
[11:50] <xamox> Ahh!
[11:50] <lisapc> Flannel i just learned that I can rezise my 20gig D: from vista!  should I resized it to 19gig and leave a 1 gig partition for Ubuntu?
[11:50] <Hisashi> hey do i have to do something to use 1240x1024?
[11:50] <xamox> alsamixer fixed it
[11:50] <Jake> I need help setting up me xorg.conf to run dual monitors on seperate x servers
[11:50] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel what do you mean escape for example do Program Files
[11:51] <lisapc> bulmer 4 gigs for swap????
[11:51] <shatrat> xamox, things like bass and treble are handled by mixers in applications, and not system-wide.  I wouldnt want enemy territory to sound like a concert hall
[11:51] <newpers> is there a torrent of a ubuntu 6.10 vmware image?
[11:51] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: /Program\ Files/
[11:51] <bulmer> lisapc: oh not for swap, i meant for your ubuntu
[11:51] <Hisashi> i've installed already nvidia driver but it doesnt make a change
[11:51] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: just type "Prog" and hit tab
[11:51] <Comrade-Sergei> oh ty'
[11:51] <Spartacus> Flannel, dimeotane, how do I set the password for su? it's not my one for sudo
[11:51] <lisapc> im about to install Kubuntu and I have 1 gig ram!  how big should my swap file be?  will 2gig suffice?
[11:51] <Flannel> Spartacus: You don't need/want to.
[11:51] <dimeotane> lisapc: you might consider giving vist 512k on your HD  =p
[11:51] <dimeotane> vista
[11:51] <bulmer> lisapc: plenty enuff 2x the ram size
[11:51] <shatrat> lisapc, 2 gig is plenty.  1.5 would be enough
[11:51] <adrian_> shatrat: ok, put in my user dir now
[11:51] <Spartacus> Flannel, well it says I need to for ktoons
[11:51] <Jake> I need help setting up me xorg.conf to run dual monitors on seperate x servers AIM me at y0ungcitty because im afk for a few minutes
[11:51] <lisapc> shatrat ok
[11:51] <PaulButler> i'm installing software from the ubuntu cd via command line. Is there a command line tool for this or do I have to dpkg -i all the files and their dependencies? apt-get is great but I don't have a network connection.
[11:51] <Flannel> dimeotane: eh, you can use `sudo -i`.  When you want to relock your root account, sudo passwd -l root
[11:51] <D_E_M_O_N_X> who know why don`t accept my root passowrd when i want to install some program ?
[11:51] <noelferreira> hi people. i use wireless driver rt61 and edgy amd64. every time i try to config the file /etc/network/interfaces my system won't start up. i have to delete the file and bring up ra0 manually with dhcp every time i reboot. any help?
[11:52] <Vik> help
[11:52] <Flannel> D_E_M_O_N_X: Because sudo doesn't use the root password,
[11:52] <dimeotane> Flannel: I think su is easier
[11:52] <Andune> re: my RAID question earlier, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto has the goods.  Should update the bot to include this link when asking about installing on hardware RAIDs
[11:52] <lisapc> shatrat will ubuntu installer recognise those 2 NTFS partitions and then use them to install unto?
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> lisapc, ubuntu will want about 5gb of space, swap = RAM * 2
[11:52] <Spartacus> it says to type "su -c "make install""
[11:52] <Flannel> Spartacus: No, you don't.  sudo make install
[11:52] <lisapc> TheGateKeeper its 20 gif partition
[11:52] <adrian_> now what do i need to do?
[11:52] <duneatreides> Where can I find resources on compiling debian or ubuntu from scratch?  It should make for an interesting reading
[11:52] <Vik> My new ubuntu install won't load past the slplash screen
[11:52] <lisapc> Flannel will ubuntu installer recognise those 2 NTFS partitions and then use them to install unto?
[11:52] <adrian_> shatrat: what's next?
[11:52] <bulmer> D_E_M_O_N_X: what commands?
[11:52] <Spartacus> grr
[11:52] <Andune> !raid install
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Flannel> !raid
[11:52] <shatrat> lisapc, well, it wont install onto anything that doesnt get formatted.  it might add them to your fstab so you can read them in linux but the only thing that will be installed to is the bits that get formatted to swap and ext3 in the formatting phase
[11:52] <Turks> gee
[11:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:52] <Turks> that was nice
[11:53] <jksigurd> hello, I'm new to linux and I was wondering if anyone could help me with my ubuntu install, I've been having some problems
[11:53] <zylche> @lart Turks
[11:53] <Flannel> lisapc: you'll need to reformat them to ext3, so you'll need to indicate they're the ones you want to use, but yeah.
[11:53] <Jake>  I need help setting up my xorg.conf to run dual monitors on seperate x servers,,, Yes ive tried online to do the general one and it does not work... AIM me at y0ungcitty because im afk for a few minutes
[11:53] <shatrat> adrian_, the part in the how to that says "To make sure this is all installed..."
[11:53] <dimeotane> jksigurd: ask away
[11:53] <finsta> Hello people...Do you guys know of any good tools to recover from a corrupt ext2fs?
[11:54] <Flannel> dimeotane: That's fine if you want to use it.  But we do ask in here, you walk people through things with sudo
[11:54] <Flannel> dimeotane: It makes it easier for the user, and us support people later
[11:54] <festr3> scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <null> getting this at bootup raid card is 3ware
[11:54] <dimeotane> agreed
[11:54] <adrian_> shatrat: now it could find g++-3.4?
[11:55] <shatrat> adrian_, Im not sure i understand the question.
[11:55] <Spartacus> Can anyone help me install Qt 4.2.3?
[11:55] <Vik> anyone?
[11:55] <festr3> any ideas?
[11:55] <jksigurd> thanks, I'm trying to install Edgy AMD64, off a verified ISO, the CD boots and I get the first menu with the various options. I select start/install ubuntu, the kernel loads but I get some graphical glitches/artifacts on the next screen, then a beige desktop loads and I can move my cursor, but I get an another artifact on the screen and then nothing happens after that
[11:55] <festr3> i added to teh boot noapic noacpi and nolapic
[11:55] <dimeotane> !anyone
[11:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:55] <festr3> still lcoked up
[11:55] <finsta> sudo apt-get install libqt4-core-kdecopy
[11:55] <Spartacus> When I give the "make" command in the directory I extracted to I get the message "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[11:55] <adrian_> shatrat: I typed in the code: g++-3.4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common g++ libgtkmm-2.4-1 libglademm-2.4-1 scons
[11:55] <festr3> any idea finsta?
[11:56] <adrian_> shatrat: and it didn't find g++-3.4
[11:56] <shatrat> adrian_, the whole command should be "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgtkmm-2.4-dev libglademm-2.4-dev zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev g++-3.4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common g++ libgtkmm-2.4-1 libglademm-2.4-1 scons linux-headers$(uname -r)"
[11:56] <shatrat> adrian_, if youll look in the how to that code has a slider bar under it, its kind of long :D
[11:56] <noelferreira> hi people. i use wireless driver rt61 and edgy amd64. every time i try to config the file /etc/network/interfaces my system won't start up. i have to delete the file and bring up ra0 manually with dhcp every time i reboot. any help?
[11:56] <bulmer> finsta 2efsck ?  also check the next superblock
[11:57] <festr3> its been really hard getting ubuntu installed
[11:57] <finsta> bulmer, done and done
[11:57] <finsta> Also did tried another superblockj
[11:57] <Jake>  I need help setting up my xorg.conf to run dual monitors on seperate x servers,,, Yes ive tried online to do the general one and it does not work... AIM me at y0ungcitty because im afk for a few minutes
[11:57] <finsta> -superblock
[11:57] <BeepAU> does anyone here have the MCP51 chipset?
[11:57] <adrian_> shatrat: ok, typed that in, next password, now what?
[11:58] <bulmer> finsta: oh well, you may want to slave that drive to another working system and just recover the data perhaps
[11:58] <shatrat> adrian_, well after you enter your password it should install all those packages...except the one I typoed in case you were copying me and not the how-to
[11:58] <bulmer> finsta: then re-install
[11:58] <Savage-{> what package do I need for using usb bluetooth devices?
[11:58] <finsta> Bulmer, it's a separate hd. It's not /
[11:58] <adrian_> shatrat: my login password?
[11:58] <shatrat> adrian_, yes.
[11:58] <Andune> !dmraid
[11:58] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[11:58] <bulmer> finsta: but do you boot off this disk you want to recover?
[11:59] <adrian_> shatrat: i'll try now then
[11:59] <finsta> No, I don't
[11:59] <noelferreira> hi people. i use wireless driver rt61 and edgy amd64. every time i try to config the file /etc/network/interfaces my system won't start up. i have to delete the file and bring up ra0 manually with dhcp every time i reboot. any help?
[11:59] <finsta> My booting HD is perfectly fine and intact
[11:59] <bulmer> finsta: so you can not slave it to another working system and can not mount it either?
[11:59] <Spartacus> I'm trying to install Qt 4.2.3 on Edgy, but whenever I give the "make" command in the directory I extracted to I get the message "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[11:59] <shatrat> adrian_, when that finishes you need to do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[11:59] <adrian_> shatrat: now things finally happened
[12:00] <Andune> ok, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto references the 'dmraid' application and the 'universe' source settings, neither of wihch appear to exist in 6.10
[12:00] <finsta> Nope
[12:00] <jake222>  I need help setting up my xorg.conf to run dual monitors on seperate x servers,,, Yes ive tried online to do the general one and it does not work... AIM me at y0ungcitty because im afk for a few minutes
[12:00] <adrian_> shatrat: done
[12:00] <finsta> It doesn't work
[12:00] <zm635> allright, not exactly a linux question, but anyone know how to defrag an nfts volume so that it leaves all blank space at the end?
[12:00] <zm635> ntfs*
[12:00] <bulmer> finsta if you cant mount it, umm i have no other solutions, i have a 2nd bad hard disk too..i cant recover it any othe way