=== T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-152-84.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === jlamr_ [n=jlamr@FT-ESR1-208-102-54-63.fuse.net] has joined #xubuntu === cclampblues [n=cclampbl@cpe-24-210-222-190.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === DarkWizdom [n=chatzill@hn-49-130.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] hey, guys! I need a little help... trying to install xubuntu from a live cd, but dirong configuration of partitions... it says "no root file system" although I do choose one fo the partitions to be mounted as "/" [01:24] what can be the problem? chatting from livecd at the moment :) [01:24] I had that exact same problem with the ubuntu installer once. never found a solution [01:25] i guess that doesn't really help, sorry [01:25] i ended up just quiting and rebooting [01:25] well, good to hear I'm not the only one to be honest :D [01:25] are you using a custom partitioning scheme? [01:25] yea [01:25] my hdd is a mess [01:25] i was too! [01:25] I got xp installed [01:26] and I have kubuntu installed as well :) [01:26] if i had money i'd bet five dollars that it wouldn't say that if you let the installer configure it for you [01:26] thats what it did to me. [01:27] well, if you leae it up to installer, it's gonna format whole hdd :))) [01:27] that would have been a disaster to be honest :P [01:27] i know. thats what pissed me off about it [01:27] this is so annoying... [01:27] any reason why you want to install kubuntu and xubuntu? [01:27] I formated kubuntu partition already [01:27] as opposed to installing KDE and Xfce? [01:27] I had kubuntu :) [01:28] yeah [01:28] pIII 1200 64 integrated videocard [01:28] xubunto sounds more reasonable [01:28] :) [01:28] without a doubt [01:28] you know you can just uninstall KDE and then install Xfce in its place? [01:29] using synaptic [01:29] yeah, but I have been experimenting with kubuntu alot [01:29] want a fresh install [01:29] oh, good point [01:29] and I formatted that partition already [01:29] and grub with it lol [01:30] so now if I want to start windows again, have to run /fixmbr /fixboot [01:30] or whatever there is... [01:30] i'm sorry, but i can only sympathize with you because i don't know how to solve your problem though I've had it myself [01:30] its a bug in the installer [01:31] have you checked the bug reports on ubuntu bug tracker? [01:31] not yet [01:31] hmm [01:31] maybe install earlyer version? [01:31] i personally didn't check there. i had a brand new hard drive at the time so the partitioning scheme wasn't that important to me [01:31] then upgrade to edgy.... [01:32] that is a solution [01:32] make sure to follow the proper upgrade guides [01:32] I have experience in that already hehe [01:32] started with breezy [01:33] apt-get update && apt-get distro upgrade [01:33] basicly that's it :) [01:33] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130 [01:33] Malone bug 67130 in ubiquity "mount points preparation locked - "No root file system"" [Critical,Fix committed] [01:33] http://www.xubuntu.org/get [01:34] wow, thanks! [01:34] time to read -_- [01:35] shew i should of come here when i install pooped out [01:35] my not i [01:35] obviously :) [01:37] ok heres a question: after i boot up i dont have any 'taskbar' menus. any idea how i can get them back? [01:38] . [01:39] did i lose the chanel? [01:40] nthanks alot guys! that worked! [01:41] cclampblues, In the 'Settings' there is a program for that, should be called 'panel settings' or similar. [01:42] i know. i dont have the menu that contains the 'settings' option [01:42] that entire thing is what is missing === SkippyX [n=Thangleb@69.151.35.131] has joined #xubuntu [01:43] i have no idea. i just made a url link and double clicked it and firefox opened... but i have no way to access anything . its all gone. === User2007 [n=bharath@c-24-6-208-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] settings menu? [01:44] alt + f2 [01:44] xfce-setting-show [01:44] how do I change screensaver settings? [01:45] User2007: system [01:45] system settings i should say [01:45] cclampblues, What about right-clicking the desktop? [01:45] kalikiana, I already answered :P [01:45] my way works [01:45] posingaspopular: I don't see it there...running dapper btw [01:46] system menu? [01:46] the normal menu pops up: create launcher...etc [01:46] I see bulk rename, disks, language support... [01:46] R[a] ndom, I added that just in case, I am not sure if he could hit alt+F2 if there are no panels. [01:47] i got the settings manager up [01:47] That's good, now get the panels program. [01:48] the "button" presses hardrive clicking. and nothing. [01:49] but the file manager (etc.) opens [01:50] i have no idea. thanks for your help. but i have to go. === davros [n=davros@71.229.81.55] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] thanks again. [01:51] hi all [01:52] I have a strange xubuntu login error, is there anyone that wants to chat about it? I'm a fairly moderate linux user, so I shouldn't be too much of a problem ;) [01:52] anyone know how to change screensaver settings in xubuntu? [01:53] on my setup, it put the screensaver menu entries into the "other" menu or something similar [01:53] I forgot exactly what that menu is called. [01:53] but it's there. you can run xscreensaver-demo from the command-line too [01:55] ask | davros [01:55] welp, once when I turned the machine back on, I got just a blank screen after I logged in. [01:55] User2007: the easy way to set up the screensaver is to click Screensaver in the Settings Manager. [01:55] thanks davros, xscreensaver-demo worked [01:55] no panel, no icons, nothing. just the background color [01:55] no problem [01:56] odd. xfce isn't turning onn properly. [01:56] i don't know enough about xfce to check to see which apps are loading, and which apps arent. changing the session, etc., doesnt help either [01:56] thanks cellofellow, I see it there too...I thought everything there was also a separate menu entry [01:56] does Failsafe Terminal work? [01:57] User2007: unfortunately no [01:57] I added a second user and logged in with him, and it works fine, but that takes me to another problem. that second user has no sound [01:57] yes it does [01:57] that is terribly confusing [01:57] I hope that's been fixed in edgy [01:58] the sound modules seem to be loading, i see them with lsmod, but alsamixer and the xfce sound applet don't see a sound device. yet, I get that cute sound when the login screen comes up, ya know, before I log in [01:59] something about my second user is disabling the sound [01:59] davros: try removing /home/yourname/.cache I think your session settings got screwed up. [01:59] I'll try it. I can't actually do it now, alas, but I'll note that [02:00] any idea why the sound wouldn't work for the second user account? === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] thanks all, bbl [02:01] that's a bit vague. When does it not work? More details, please. === User2007 [n=bharath@c-24-6-208-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:01] well, I get sound when I boot up, ya know, that little sound you hear when the main login screen comes up. sound has always worked fine in the account that got munched. [02:02] the new user in the audio group? [02:02] yet, when I log in with this new user I made, I get no sound. lsmod shows the sound files loaded - of course they are, because of that sound I hear initially before I log in. yet, alsamixer says there is nothing, aplay -l says there is no device, and the xfce sound mixer volume thingy says there is nothing [02:02] I don't know, lol [02:02] by sound files I meant sound modules [02:03] suod adduser theuser audio [02:03] or maybe the other way around, audio theuser. [02:03] drat, can't remember [02:03] I'll try that, that would be a nice easy fix [02:04] be back in a moment, I think I'll be back anyway. [02:04] if not, thanks for the help [02:04] does anyone know the name of the appl that xfce uses to add users graphically? I'd like to run it from the console [02:05] `users-admin` [02:06] thanks === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === bill__ [n=bill@h110.97.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu === AXmf [n=axel@201-212-130-167.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu === T`2 [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-220.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] seems like bcm43xx took a dive since edgy [02:32] had to re-install and have been forced to use ndiswrapper [02:32] so im loading fiesty [02:32] os[Linux 2.6.20-9-generic i686] distro[Debian 4.0] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400MHz @ 1.40GHz] mem[Physical : 724MB, 83.8% free] disk[Total : 35.15GB, 88.50% Free] video[Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device] sound[] === vidd_laptop does not understd why xchat cant see this as ubuntu! === T`2 is now known as T` [02:39] It's probably checking /etc/debian_version, for some obscure reason, isntead of /etc/issue. [02:40] s/isntead/instead/ [02:45] .... === vidd_laptop starts to hunt down the code...... === cellofellow [n=josh@geek-225.69-71-160-0.qwest.dsl.vcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] *wave* cellofellow [02:47] wb [02:47] hello [02:47] I was just messing with Zenity. It's interesting. [02:50] what's Zenity? [02:51] oh, that graphical menu thing, like xdialog or whatever it's called [02:52] Simple program that displays customizable GTK windows and returns stuff to the stdout. It's for graphics in bash scripting. [02:53] simple trick with it: mousepad $(zenity --file-selection) [02:53] opens a text file in mousepad with a graphical choice. [02:57] thats cool. i used to do some bash stuff with xdialog, but i didnt like its file chooser [02:57] it would crop filenames and do stupid stuff that really took away the polish [02:57] a run-dialog: INPUT=$(zenity --entry --text "Run...") && exec $INPUT [02:59] I think I like the GTK stuff [03:00] i've done a little GTK programming with GLADE and Python, i like it, it's pretty easy and powerful [03:00] I'm still a Python newb. [03:00] I wish I had a physical book instead of this ebook I've got. Although, I shouldn't complain. Ebooks are nice. [03:01] newb at programming actually. [03:02] python is very cool. the syntax is so clean, I can look at one of my programs months later and actually get it still, lol [03:02] yeah. :) [03:02] I'm getting into objects and functions and stuff, and it's confusingish. [03:05] sometimes it's a little confusing, especially stuff like this: " ".split(myString), which splits that string apart into smaller pieces based on space [03:05] but once you realize that a string is just an object with functions, which is what the " " is, it makes sense. [03:05] The book did go through all of those built in string methods, but I forget. [03:06] well, yeah. [03:06] I dont bother remembering too much of that, i just look the stuff up as I need it. that's why it's nice to have a syntax that doesnt work against you [03:06] I just want to see the big picture, and have a goal, instead of just trying to memorize functions and commands and things. === rockabillyjon [n=rockabil@CPE-69-76-47-135.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:07] well, ok [03:07] yeah, I agree. and having a physical book is nicer too [03:07] hehe, this is fun: zenity --info --text "`fortune`" [03:08] i wonder if i have fortune installed... [03:08] it should be [03:08] lol, it is === cellofellow thinks it's fun. He put it in .bashrc so that it ran when he logged in. === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@F73a6.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:15] !nvidia [03:15] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [03:17] :) === cellofellow [n=josh@geek-225.69-71-160-0.qwest.dsl.vcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === dv_ [n=dv@M1243P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #xubuntu === joe4444 [n=joe@unaffiliated/joe4444] has joined #xubuntu [03:37] my cd-rw couldn't burn the ubuntu edgy iso for some reason (i think maybe the laser can't reach the very end of a disc or something), so instead i used the 540mb Xubuntu iso which worked fine === Malfist [n=jerome@CPE-76-177-27-136.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #Xubuntu [03:38] err, meaning the desktop was oversized but the alternate worked fine? :) [03:38] I need help in killing a proccess [03:38] if i run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" will my system be virtually identical to one that was installed from a "real" ubuntu live cd? [03:38] I have 'document viewer' open to look at a pdf and it's frozen [03:38] joe4444: in the important ways, yes. [03:38] crimsun, what will be different? [03:39] does anyone know it's name for killall [03:39] I can't find it in htop or atop [03:39] joe4444: some subset of the standard-installed packages. [03:39] Malfist: pkill evince [03:39] any guides that can show me exactly what i'm missing? [03:40] yes, the ubuntu-meta and xubuntu-meta source packages. === Malfist help [03:40] Malfist: I just told you the command. === Malfist it works [03:40] I was looking for the help file on the command /me === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [03:40] /help me , probably [03:41] I had it backwards [03:41] someone told me the only difference is that Xubuntu lacks Gnome, but installing ubuntu-desktop includes 286 packages o_O [03:42] quit got what I came for :P Thanks crimsun [03:44] joe4444, yes...Xubuntu lacks the 286 packages of gnome [03:44] =] [03:44] oh well, i'll probably just get a new cd-rw or maybe dvd burner by the time feisty is out and just start fresh again === DawnLight [n=Dawn@85.64.218.14.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] vidd_laptop, seems like there are a lot of packages in here that aren't really related to gnome [03:45] joe4444, i always grab the alt cd, instal a command line system, and then apt-get the -desktop [03:46] hello vidd [03:46] hello everyone [03:46] will the alt cd let me install /just/ gnome without a lot of the other packages like OO? [03:46] joe4444, 95% of them are similar programs to ones installed by default by xubuntu === kristjans [n=kristjan@static-71-102-88-66.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] joe4444, what is it that you WANT installed? [03:48] i like the default ubuntu setup (gnome, themes, etc.) just not the "bloat" === xubuser [n=chatzill@host197.201-253-24.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [03:48] ... [03:48] you want the default or the --no bloat--? [03:49] its an either/or question....cant have both [03:49] it would be nice to opt out of stuff like OO before installing it [03:49] then might i recomend that you use the alt cd...and install ..... [03:49] that has to be done after the install. [03:49] is it ubuntu-minimum? [03:50] -minimal [03:50] Debian would let you do that, but not Ubuntu. Fewer options in the installer. [03:50] ty crimsun [03:50] The alt cd works very fine === vidd_laptop will ONLY use the alt cd [03:51] i see, so i can't get only the default ubuntu desktop GUI without all the other packages included in ubuntu-desktop? [03:51] you just install minimal and add packages as you eish [03:51] or does -minimal include gnome? [03:51] beryl + xubuntu = no desktop wallpaper, no desktop icons? [03:51] what's [03:51] the problem [03:51] no, it's cli I believe [03:51] kristjans: sounds like xfdesktop isn't running. [03:52] joe4444, it is just the CLI [03:52] yep, it was [03:52] the problem [03:52] thanks [03:52] you want to THEN run aptitude [03:52] and select gnome === vidd_laptop THINKS the command is sudo aptitude install gnome [03:53] crimsun, am i wrong? [03:53] just do sudo aptitude and scroll around. [03:53] so start with the alt cd, apt-get install ubuntu-minimal, then apt-get install gdm ? [03:54] no....get alt-cd [03:54] install command line (or minimal) [03:54] gdm won't bet you anywhere but the fail-safe terminal. [03:54] you'd want to aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [03:54] that'd get him the same place as just installing fully. [03:55] crimsun, he dont want ALLL ubuntu...just gnome [03:55] best way I say is to just cut bits out after a normal install. === vidd_laptop agrees [03:55] vidd_laptop: you want the infrastructure in place first. [03:55] install ubuntu-desktop, then trim backward [03:55] it's just annoying to wait for 286 packages to download and install when i don't want most of them =/ [03:56] well, [03:56] joe4444, you already have a gui? [03:56] hmm [03:56] yeah i started with xubuntu live cd [03:56] try the alt cd [03:57] what is [03:57] then fire up synaptic, and look thru it and pick and choose what you DO want [03:57] what is the directory for xubuntu's desktop backgrounds? [03:57] btw i only used linux in general a little bit (CentOS mostly cli) before trying ubuntu for the first time earlier this week with VMware... i finally dropped XP yesterday and have been doing a few "real" installs [03:57] joe4444, then remove what you DONT want [03:58] synaptic will only tag what it has to, and none of the stuff it dont [03:59] after you all done adding and removing, jump to CLI and run sudo apt-get autoremove [03:59] that will get rid of stuff you no longer need [03:59] krisjtans /usr/share/backgrounds /usr/share/xfce4 /backdrops [03:59] ideally it sounds like the alt cd would let me install the cli and then gnome (without all the extras), at which point i can browse Add/Remove in the GUI to pick and choose only what i want...? [04:00] yes [04:00] xubuser: thank you very much :) [04:00] but if you ALREADY have the GUI installed..... [04:01] you're welcome kristjans [04:01] then just use synaptic and do your adding nd removing now [04:01] thunar keeps hanging [04:01] but if your JUST in a live cd session, [04:02] when i browse /dev [04:02] i know it sounds like i'm trying to avoid the cli entirely, but that's only because i want to get my desktop set up just how i like it so i can get back to work... once i know i have a good GUI setup to fall back on i'll start reading more about debian's cli and other stuff "under the hood" [04:02] go to synaptic, find the name of the gnome desktop app so you can install it from your cli [04:03] then i recommend....for a no frills desktop without the clutter and bloat....use Xubuntu [04:04] THEN do your research [04:04] =] [04:04] is there a keyboard hotkey for the process manager? [04:04] my desktop is more Debian than Ubuntu. Fluxbox. [04:04] cellofellow, fluxbox scares me [04:04] why? [04:05] plus i want to know that i can easily install ubuntu _quickly_ from scratch without all the bloat and customize from there for any additional computers i will switch from XP in the future [04:05] you can create custom disks I think. [04:05] DawnLight, change to a terminal, then 'ps aux | grep thunar' [04:05] that's the alt cd right? [04:05] then i DEFINANTLY recomend Xubuntu with XFCE asopposed to GNOME [04:05] i didn't want to start with that and get in over my head right away =) [04:06] it's still a good desktop. My little brothers and sister love it. [04:06] joe4444, you can do a desktop install from the alt cd as well [04:06] they're 8-12. [04:06] DawnLight do you want To kill thunar? [04:06] alt cd > normal cd [04:07] I dont like the live cd [04:07] cellofellow, how spartian is it? === vidd_laptop looks at it this way: [04:07] that's right Random [04:07] do i have a choice? [04:07] WHY run a LIVE cdif you KNOW your going to install???? [04:07] vidd_laptop: one sec, making screeny [04:07] vidd_laptop, having the live cd is nice for troubleshooting later [04:08] so even if you dont need it to install, its killing 2 birds with one stone [04:08] vidd_laptop, ok well i've already got that iso burned =) so to go from Xfce to Gnome w/o ubuntu-desktop (and OO, etc.) do i just run "apt-get install gnome" ? [04:08] plus you can browse the web-o-net while installing [04:08] more choices on alt. plain CLI installation and a GUI installation, both with cli installer. [04:08] I don't think so Dawn Light [04:08] joe4444, yes [04:08] perfect, thanks [04:08] what did that ps aux show me? [04:09] R[a] ndom, YOU might be able to...i cant [04:09] =] [04:09] change to a terminal 'ps aux | grep thunar' then 'sudo kill #' where # is the process number [04:09] that gparted messes me up every time [04:09] the second column from the left is te process id [04:10] vidd_laptop: http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/fluxbox-screenshot.png [04:10] it's a unique id for each process running on the system === Lord_Maynoth [n=lordmayn@h184.86.82.206.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:10] hey... [04:10] cellofellow, dont look much different then xfce [04:11] is anyone here running xfce 4.4.0 [04:11] with 'sudo kill #', where # is the process id, you can kill any process you want [04:11] and if so have you run into any bugs? [04:11] that's cause I just can't keep customizing it. [04:11] but be carefull with that [04:11] Rox is the desktop icons. [04:11] Lord_Maynoth, i think i am (running fiesty) [04:11] yeah [04:11] have you encountered any bugs [04:11] hey it worked [04:11] that's the BEST way to use xfce4.4 [04:11] a couple [04:11] I want to install 4.4.0 on edgy [04:11] but i have a feeling it will hang again [04:12] but i dont know if they are with the wm [04:12] I wish ubuntu updated as new software came out [04:12] say, where can i see which serial ports are identified? [04:12] instead of every 6 months [04:13] DawnLight, lspci [04:13] dmesg | grep serial [04:13] Lord_Maynoth: that's Debian Sid that is always up to date like that, or Gentoo. [04:13] that command will list all serial ports detected by the Kernel [04:14] Ubuntu would be as unstable as Sid if it was like that. [04:14] Debian Sid? [04:14] !sid [04:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about sid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:14] yes i see [04:14] Lord_Maynoth: aka Unstable. It's mostly a collection of new packages awaiting inclusion in Ubuntu or Etch (testing). [04:14] !debian [04:14] Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [04:15] well I wish the apps were up2date [04:15] like ooo gaim etc [04:15] no, you don't. [04:15] up2date is Fedora/Red Hat. [04:15] vidd, what is lspci? [04:15] Apt much better. [04:15] trally...NO you DONT [04:15] I keep my system up2date [04:15] manually [04:15] but its a pain [04:15] having to compile [04:16] no instability here [04:16] then use Gentoo or Sid. If you HAVE to have the bleeding edge. [04:16] DawnLight, it shows what pci devises you have running [04:16] lspci is a command that list all the pci devices on your machine [04:16] Sid is much more popularly used than Etch and Sarge anyways. [04:16] the list is too long, how do i segment it? [04:16] lspci | less [04:17] xubuser, you type too fast =] [04:17] :-) === vidd_laptop like the bloody stuff to work...not the bleeding edge! [04:19] i got help with my wifi card today...now i need to help 3 ppl [04:19] xubuser, how do i resume from it? [04:19] press the q key [04:19] and you are typing so fast that i cant! [04:19] =P [04:19] is a serial port a pci device? [04:20] most serial ports are /dev/sttyN right? [04:20] N for Number [04:20] in modern computer, the serial port is conected trough a pci bus, yes [04:20] D'OH DawnLight you wanted to know PORTS...not DEVICES [04:21] older computer, serial port WAS the PCI bus???? j/k [04:21] in older computers used to be isa buses [04:21] yes sorry [04:21] very oldies [04:22] back in the days of dumb-terminals? [04:22] i miss the ISA [04:22] in ANCHIENT computers....they used to be seperate buildings [04:22] =] [04:22] 12" modems at a blazing 14.4kbps [04:22] i have a windows software running in wine, that sends commands through serial ports and i cant get it to recognize any! [04:23] DawnLight, what windows software? [04:23] there may be linux equivilents [04:23] its a configuration tool for an irrigation valve module [04:24] the company didnt make a linux version [04:25] the software already runs [04:25] while im sure there IS a linux equivilent, i have no clue what it might possibly be =\ [04:25] why would there be? [04:25] does vmware give access to serial ports? [04:25] DawnLight, theres no reason there would be [04:25] whats vmware? [04:25] use an emulator, and capture the serial data, and use that to write your own. [04:25] !vmware [04:25] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [04:26] !qem [04:26] it lets you run windows on top of linux [04:26] Sorry, I don't know anything about qem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:26] !qemu [04:26] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [04:26] qemu is similar [04:26] just a bit less polished, slower, and (mostly) open source [04:26] I use Qemu with the KQemu accelerator, now OSS. [04:26] its the perfect solution tho [04:26] read up on it [04:26] eitehr of them [04:26] it is totally open source now. [04:26]