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| lontra | are there kde 4 packages for feisty? | 12:37 |
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| Hobbsee | not yet | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: there are for edgy though | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | afaik | 12:37 |
| lontra | hmm...i'm only running feisty though | 12:38 |
| lontra | they would probably behave ok | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: actually, kde4 packages are going into feisty soonish. | 12:38 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: cool...for testing purposes right? | 12:39 |
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| lontra | also does anyone know if there'll be an official kubuntu package of kickoff? | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: yes, testing | 12:40 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: probably not. of course, if someone provides a package, that actually builds, then we'll look again | 12:40 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: we had trouble getting it to build | 12:40 |
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| lontra | Hobbsee: yeah i talked with a DD about it and he said it's a strange package. it is sure is slick though. | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: did the DD manage to build it? | 12:44 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: no...he talked with the person who made a package and posted it on kde-look | 12:45 |
| lontra | they made a kubuntu package for it | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | they made a kubuntu *binary* for it, yes. | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu accepts sources, nto binaries | 12:45 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: yeah | 12:48 |
| lontra | i know | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: it appears to try to find a file which doenst exist in kde - or nto easily findable, anyway. | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | and fail, because it cant find it | 12:48 |
| lontra | it involves patching of kdelibs...iirc | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | with what, though? | 12:53 |
| Hobbsee | you'd have to ask tonio_ for more info, when he gets back, seeing as he was the one working on it | 12:53 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: i'm not sure...that's what pusling in #debian-kde told me | 12:56 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: ah right, so pusling was working on it | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 12:58 |
| lontra | he looked at it...i'm not sure he was working on it... | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee | right | 01:00 |
| lontra | he told me to package it for debian :D | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | :D woo! | 01:05 |
| Hobbsee | go on then! :P | 01:05 |
| lontra | ha ha | 01:07 |
| lontra | Hobbsee: we'll see ... i'm still trying to figure out if i want to stick with kubuntu or run kde on debian. i've only got one 7 GB partition so i can only have one or the other | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: ahh. a lot of it is common. kubuntu's tends to get the newer releases in quickly, iirc. | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | lontra: we've got a debian-kde team, who start in debian, and some kubuntu people have accoutns to it | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | not sure if it's the same as the irc channel - may be called somewhere else | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | er, something else | 01:13 |
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| === Hobbsee spies a jucato | ||
| Hobbsee | yuriy: nice, thanks :) | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | heya manchicken_ | 02:25 |
| yuriy | hi Hobbsee | 02:27 |
| yuriy | did that ever get to kubuntu-users? | 02:29 |
| yuriy | guess not | 02:30 |
| yuriy | i guess i gotta subscribe and resend :o | 02:31 |
| === Hobbsee can send to there | ||
| Hobbsee | yuriy: it got to -devel | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | er.... | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not subscribed to users at the moment... | 02:33 |
| yuriy | i got a rejected email from -users and awaiting mod approval from 3 other ones | 02:33 |
| yuriy | clearly my subscriptions aren't in shape to be makign announcements | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | where'd you send them to? | 02:35 |
| === yuriy looks up the email | ||
| Hobbsee | as in, k-devel, k-users, -motu | 02:36 |
| yuriy | kubuntu-devel, -users, ubuntu-motu, -bugsquad, -marketing | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | ahh, i see | 02:36 |
| === Hobbsee checks if it got to bugsquad | ||
| Hobbsee | it didnt | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | yuriy: sent to bugsquad and users | 02:39 |
| yuriy | Hobbsee: thanks | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 02:53 |
| ash211 | can somebody please help me with bug 91229 ? | 03:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 91229 in amarok "[feisty] Amarok doesn't read vorbis tags" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91229 | 03:39 |
| ash211 | We've tried recompiling amarok and libtag, but still no help | 03:39 |
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| manchicken | Riddell: ping | 05:08 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: You know of any important bugs in adept needing fixing? | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: havent looked, sorry | 05:10 |
| manchicken | okie dokie | 05:11 |
| manchicken | I'm bored | 05:11 |
| manchicken | Can anybody still replicate bug #87046? | 05:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 87046 in adept "Crash when 'details' is clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87046 | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | checking | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: i'm still getting the crash on update (presumably to a new release) | 05:41 |
| manchicken | Interesting. | 05:41 |
| manchicken | When looking at the details thing? | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | didnt even get there | 05:42 |
| manchicken | Weird. | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | i said to check for updates, then it got most of them, downloaded the changelog thing, then crashed. | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | with adept_updater | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: i cant reproduce the crashign in details though, in adept-manager | 05:49 |
| manchicken | w00t | 05:50 |
| manchicken | someone else fixed it. | 05:50 |
| manchicken | heh | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:50 |
| manchicken | Riddell will know who did that. | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: how abotu fixing https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/48627 ? | 05:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 48627 in adept "Poor resolution of "database locked" problem" [Medium,Unconfirmed] | 05:52 |
| === manchicken isn't in the launchpad beta testers team... | ||
| manchicken | :( | 06:02 |
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| Hobbsee | manchicken: take out the beta. | 06:08 |
| manchicken_ | Yeah, I did. | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: you can always sign up for teh beta lp team, btw | 06:33 |
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| aj_ | hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused...what does this mean exactly? | 06:41 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: what state is the upgrader in? ie, does it need further testing yet? | 10:12 |
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| Jucato | hm.... Hobbsee you around? | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yes | 10:56 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: just wondering, is it normal that kde metapackages aren't included the kubuntu.org KDE updates? | 10:57 |
| === Hobbsee found a picture of Jucato, too | ||
| Jucato | hehehe from jsgotangco? | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yep | 10:58 |
| Jucato | oh... I think that's causing some problems w/ the dist-upgrade, for example, if kde-devel metapackage is installed | 10:59 |
| Jucato | er... wait.. was that "yes" about the metapackages for about the picture? :D | 10:59 |
| Jucato | sorry just woke up eheheh | 10:59 |
| fdoving | oh nice. kmix has a 'middle-click on tray-icon to toggle mute'. | 11:01 |
| Jucato | :) | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yes to the picture questoin | 11:07 |
| Jucato | hm... the dist-upgrade tool doesn't start... | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: um...not sure | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: from edgy? run it from konsole, and see if it gives you an error about nto being able to connect to the display | 11:08 |
| Jucato | ok | 11:08 |
| Jucato | can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE | 11:09 |
| Jucato | btw I used this repo since I have KDE 3.5.6 installed: deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ ./ | 11:09 |
| Jucato | are we supposed to install update-manager for it to work? | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | i'm...not sure | 11:14 |
| Jucato | I probably better wait for monday... | 11:14 |
| Jucato | which means I won't be able to participate in the bug week... | 11:14 |
| Hobbsee | you can run a standard dist-upgrade thru the console | 11:15 |
| Jucato | yeah... but I was hoping to test-run the dist-upgrade tool as well | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | multiple partitions? | 11:23 |
| Jucato | hm? | 11:24 |
| Hobbsee | as in, run kubuntu on multiple partitions - dist-upgrade oen, and keep the other | 11:24 |
| === Hobbsee should really do the dishes | ||
| Jucato | ah ok.. I will try | 11:24 |
| Jucato | hehe go do dishes :) | 11:24 |
| === Hobbsee has been blogging instead | ||
| Hobbsee | dont have the motivation to | 11:25 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 11:25 |
| Jucato | it's not an absolute necessity. blogging I mean :) | 11:25 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 11:25 |
| Jucato | which is one reason I keep putting off adding myself to Planet ubuntu :D | 11:26 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:32 |
| Lure | Jucato: just run it as written on KubuntuDistUpgrade page | 11:47 |
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| Hobbsee | heya Lure | 11:49 |
| Lure | hi Hobbsee - nice to have another Kubunut blogger | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: :) | 11:49 |
| Lure | Kubuntu even ;-) | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | kubunut...nice :) | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: it's even a semi-decent picture too - yay :P | 11:50 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: I am sure nixternal will make you hackergothci ;-) | 11:51 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: you might even get a hat like Riddell ;-) | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | argh! no! | 11:52 |
| === Hobbsee has seen imbrandon's mangling... | ||
| toma | Hobbsee has a blog? | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | toma: yes. | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | toma: rumour suggests this to be true | 11:53 |
| === Hobbsee has 2, iirc. | ||
| === Hobbsee only uses one for viewing other's blogs | ||
| toma | but your not on planet kubuntu | 11:54 |
| === Hobbsee contemplates putting the background on the blog as the same as the myspace one... | ||
| Hobbsee | toma: i'm on planet ubuntu | 11:54 |
| === Hobbsee grins evilly at the thought | ||
| toma | hmm | 11:54 |
| toma | i dont read that often, its usually off topic | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | toma: as in the .de one? | 11:54 |
| toma | yeah | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | toma: mainly because i didnt think of it | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | feel free to put it there | 11:55 |
| === toma dances around | ||
| toma | rsibreak is package of the day!!!! | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | yep! :D | 11:58 |
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| Hobbsee | toma: unlikely. outside is scary | 12:00 |
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| Jucato | Lure: I did follow the KubuntuDIstUpgrade page... | 12:26 |
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| Lure | Jucato: does it work for you? | 12:27 |
| Jucato | Lure: unfortunately, no... | 12:27 |
| Lure | :-( | 12:27 |
| Jucato | at first I thought it was because of some held back package... but that seemed to be another matter entirely | 12:27 |
| Jucato | The error that I get at the end when when I run adept_manager from Konsole is "can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE" | 12:29 |
| Lure | Jucato: that sounds like bad update-manager package on soyuz | 12:30 |
| Jucato | so I guess I'll have to wait till Monday :) | 12:30 |
| Jucato | btw, I'm using the repo for those who have KDE 3.5.6 already | 12:30 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: lol! I just read that as "USB on a stick" :D | 12:31 |
| Lure | Jucato: she likes to write about sticks | 12:32 |
| === Lure is still waiting for post about The stick ;-) | ||
| Jucato | rofl :) | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: hah | 12:33 |
| === Hobbsee beats Lure with a herring | ||
| mhb | morning | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | heya mhb | 12:33 |
| Lure | auch | 12:33 |
| Jucato | hi mhb! | 12:34 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt think that The Stick would go terribly well down for people who dont know who she is.... | ||
| === Lure thinks that Hobbsee's pointy stick of doom should be document in Ubuntu's code of conduct ;-) | ||
| Hobbsee | Lure: hehe | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: maybe a part of UDS | 12:34 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: yep, that might be nice spec for UDS ;-) | 12:35 |
| mhb | Lure: auch was? | 12:35 |
| Jucato | lol :) | 12:35 |
| Lure | mhb: [12:33] * Hobbsee beats Lure with a herring | 12:35 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: *grin* | 12:35 |
| mhb | Lure: oh, you meant "ouch", not "auch" | 12:36 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: you will go to UDS in Spain? | 12:36 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: do you know who else is coming? | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: yes, i plan to. not sure who else is coming | 12:36 |
| === Hobbsee thinks manchicken|away is | ||
| === Lure will not be able to come this time - has sailing regatta that week ;-) | ||
| Hobbsee | awww | 12:37 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: ok, so I expect you to write us some specs so that we have something to do for feisty+1 ;-) | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: i'll write, and you can code them - does that sound good? | 12:38 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: fine with me ;-) | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | you, meaning "you all" | 12:38 |
| mhb | speaking of specs | 12:39 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: of course, "you personally" I expect the ThePointyStickOfDoom spec | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:39 |
| === Hobbsee will have to make a pony spec | ||
| Lure | Hobbsee: that is for kwwii to implement | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 12:39 |
| mhb | Qt4 is available as GPL for Windows too, am I correct? | 12:40 |
| Lure | mhb: right | 12:40 |
| Jucato | mhb: yes | 12:40 |
| Lure | mhb: and MacOSX | 12:40 |
| Jucato | is there a place to sort of submit/file wishlists? | 12:41 |
| === Jucato has 2 for libata/UUID-affected GUI apps... | ||
| mhb | hmm, so we could code some nice mini-apps/wizards for Windows and include them on the CD, such as "repair GRUB after Windows install" or "create Kubuntu Live USB pen drive" ... | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: if it fit on a pen drive, yes. | 12:44 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: easily, if the pen drive is 1GB+ | 12:45 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: there are howtos on the net | 12:45 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: those were only examples - but if we plan to ship Windows stuff on the CD, some useful wizards like that could be handy | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: you offering to write them? | 12:47 |
| Jucato | hm... hope they won't cause a space issue again :) | 12:47 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: ping | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: it's sunday. | 12:58 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I c, but qt-3.3.8 have problems with CJK characters display | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | never the less, he's probably not watching irc, as it's a sunday, and most people dont work on sundays | 12:59 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I've tested it this whole day, can not make it display them correctly, and this was found under archlinux and gentoo too | 12:59 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I can do the UI part, not sure about the backends | 01:04 |
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| mhb | Hobbsee: the backends would require some Windows programming experience, which I lack | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: ahhh... | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: presumably all one would need to do would be to say "run grub install" or something | 01:11 |
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| mhb | Hobbsee: it depends ... I will start the spec (we can dismiss it later) but we need to decide how many (and what) tools we will implement | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 01:23 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I can do the analysis on how much "low-level" Windows experience is necessary, but only after I know what tools do we want :o) | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 01:24 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi there | 03:36 |
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| Jucato | hi _StefanS_ | 03:37 |
| _StefanS_ | hey juCo | 03:37 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Feb 22 16:32:11 2007 | ||
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| Riddell | manchicken_: you pinged? | 06:18 |
| lontra | the kde4 packages in feisty are safe to install along side the kde 3.5.6 packages? i.e. it won't bork kde 3.5.6 | 06:24 |
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| Tm_T | lontra: Should _NOT_ ever do that. | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | If does, there's something badly wrong. | 06:26 |
| lontra | They install to /usr/lib/kde4 and can be installed alongside your existing KDE 3. <--- ??? | 06:26 |
| lontra | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php | 06:26 |
| Tm_T | As I said... | 06:30 |
| nixternal | you mean for Edgy correct? or is there a Feisty package now? | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: Shouldn't matter. | 06:31 |
| lontra | Tm_T: so it'll break my kde 3? i was just interested in testing it...i realize it's no where near usable | 06:35 |
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| Tm_T | lontra: No, I repeat, it should _NOT_ ever do that. | 06:37 |
| Tm_T | lontra: Your KDE3 is safe. | 06:38 |
| Tm_T | Right? | 06:38 |
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| lontra | ok...so it's safe to install the kde 4 packages :) | 06:38 |
| lontra | are the oxygen icons in the kde4 packages in feisty? | 06:39 |
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| nixternal | lontra: not yet | 06:46 |
| nixternal | ^^ Oxygen Icons that is | 06:46 |
| nixternal | the KDE 4 snapshots are still to broken to do much with except for development/testing purposes | 06:47 |
| nixternal | now that the oxygen icons have been moved into kdelibs/kdebase (can't remember), they should be in future snapshots I am guessing | 06:47 |
| marseillai | oxygen and strigi | 06:47 |
| marseillai | and strigi breaks kdelibs | 06:48 |
| nixternal | yes, :) forgot about strigi, sorry | 06:48 |
| lontra | strigi is a replacement for beagle right? | 06:49 |
| marseillai | lontra: beagle is a gnome project | 06:50 |
| lontra | but kerry is uses beagle currently | 06:50 |
| marseillai | wich use C, mono and many memory | 06:50 |
| marseillai | strigi is totally diffrent and has been choose by kde to be the kde4 indexer | 06:51 |
| lontra | will kerry be the frontend for it? | 06:51 |
| marseillai | no many chance for that | 06:51 |
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| marseillai | lontra: for the moment there is no front end and strigi works with a so different way from beagle so kerry can't be port so easily | 06:52 |
| lontra | ah | 06:52 |
| lontra | well i look forward to tinkering with the kde4 packages in feisty | 06:53 |
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| mhb | evening | 08:16 |
| fdoving | evenin' | 08:17 |
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| lontra | now just get those fuzzy fonts out of openoffice.org 2.2 :) | 08:22 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: are you still on limited internet? | 08:40 |
| lontra | hrm...saving a file with konqueror tries to default to /root/ as a save location ... | 08:40 |
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| nixternal | https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/86837 | 08:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 86837 in kubuntu-docs "[Feisty] Links incorrect on Konqi main page" [High,Confirmed] | 08:52 |
| nixternal | whoever works on kdebase, that bug needs to be fixed prior to release ^^ | 08:52 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: I am rebuilding the kubuntu-docs package for feisty to remove the "review" status from the headers so there won't be the silly DRAFT image across the docs, and I generated the pot files | 09:21 |
| nixternal | so when LP opens for translations we will be right on track | 09:22 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal: Just found these two: There is no documentation available for /kubuntu/desktopguide/index.html. | 09:28 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal: There is no documentation available for /kubuntu/krelease-notes/index.html. | 09:29 |
| marseillai | i've many crashe with arts1-xine under feisty | 09:31 |
| nixternal | rbrunhuber: did you click on the links in Konqueror? | 09:41 |
| nixternal | there is already a bug to have those replaced | 09:41 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal: Yes they are links in konqueror. | 09:42 |
| nixternal | ya, those need to be replaced yet. Those will have to wait for Riddell I believe since that is in kdebase | 09:42 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal: Sorry did not search for the bug, because just triaging other bugs and launchpad is too slow | 09:42 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: http://nixternal.com/pkg/kdocs-feisty/ | 10:02 |
| nixternal | NOW the Kubuntu docs are ready for upload and translations | 10:02 |
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| nixternal | \sh_away: you sexy beast :) nice blog post there ;p | 10:06 |
| mhb | nixternal: link? :o) | 10:29 |
| nixternal | planet.ubuntu.com | 10:36 |
| mhb | thank you | 10:38 |
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