[12:13] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i know that.   that's hardly relevent to my question tho
[12:13] <duane> I think Intel wants to turn this off to save some processor room
[12:13] <duane> correct
[12:13] <intelikey> yeah
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: oh...ok
[12:14] <coreymon77> duane: is it a broadcom chipset card
[12:14] <intelikey> the man page is not clear if it's useful locally or not... so i asked in here cause sometimes you guys are pretty handy.
[12:14] <Cobra_Bubbles> Well... Bubbles now has Kubuntu installed
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: its not needed for anything locally
[12:15] <Cobra_Bubbles> Now, to work the Ndiswrapper magic and see if it works
[12:15] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ok.  thanks for that tid bit.
[12:15] <duane> i belive so.  I got it up in running I just need to log into the konsole and run modprobe ndiswrapper to turn it on whenever i turn on the box I wanted to add it to the startup to save me the trouble
[12:15] <coreymon77> duane: what driver do you have to use?
[12:16] <intelikey> i'm writing a xtartx script that will kill things that are non-essential other than the xserver (it's non-essential too)
[12:16] <duane> i got the driver wpc54gx_12.zip off of the site
[12:16] <AxlRose> is there a way to have amarok be only in the tray and not in the task bar
[12:16] <coreymon77> duane: wait a sec
[12:17] <duane> ok
[12:17] <c0nv1ct> AxlRose: if you click close in Amarok, by default it minimizes to the tray
[12:17] <coreymon77> duane: what site
[12:17] <coreymon77> duane: just to make sure
[12:18] <AxlRose> c0nv1ct: haha thank you...I fell dumb
[12:18] <duane> hand on
[12:18] <AxlRose> *feel
[12:19] <duane> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859955278&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&displaypage=download
[12:20] <duane> that was the site i cant put in the card number cause ill kill my internet connection
[12:20] <coreymon77> okay
[12:20] <duane> intel did u ever get an answer
[12:20] <coreymon77> so you are absolutely certain that you need to use ndiswrapper right?
[12:21] <duane> yea thats how i load the driver so the card will turn on
[12:21] <coreymon77> duane: let me check something
[12:21] <duane> i dont know if there is somthing else i can do cause this is my first linux box
[12:21] <coreymon77> duane: right now im making sure that you eed to use ndis
[12:21] <coreymon77> duane: because many cards these days dont
[12:21] <coreymon77> duane: and you shouldnt unless you have to
[12:22] <duane> ok i appriecate it.
[12:22] <duane> i just didnt know any other way to load the driver
[12:23] <coreymon77> duane: oh
[12:23] <coreymon77> duane: you are using a laptop huh?
[12:23] <duane> ya
[12:23] <coreymon77> duane: are you sure its the wpc54gx
[12:23] <duane> yea
[12:23] <coreymon77> and not the wpc54g
[12:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> okay
[12:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> Permission Denied
[12:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> not good
[12:24] <coreymon77> duane: or the  wpc54gx4
[12:24] <duane> i just got the wep kep turned up in open mode on my network supped
[12:24] <duane> its not the gx4 thats a diffrent card.
[12:24] <coreymon77> duane: not the gs either
[12:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4301.5.conf: Permission denied
[12:24] <duane> for somthing other then the g protocol
[12:25] <duane> or whatever
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: do sudo
[12:25] <duane> no its the standard one
[12:25] <coreymon77> or just the the standard one is the plain old g
[12:25] <duane> right
[12:25] <coreymon77> duane: thats not the gx
[12:26] <coreymon77> duane: the standard one is not the gx
[12:26] <duane> hmm
[12:26] <Alethes> if I uninstall ubuntu-desktop, that won't affect any of my kde desktop stuff, right?
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> Alethes: as long as it doesn't threaten to remove any kernels, no
[12:27] <Alethes> ok, adept doesn't really warn you of that sorta thing
[12:28] <coreymon77> duane: is this your card http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1130276681921&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[12:28] <duane> its def the gx version cause it has the srx tech
[12:28] <AxlRose> anyone remember the name of the project that replaces the Kmenu start button
[12:28] <duane> let me see
[12:28] <Alethes> AxlRose: baghira?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> Alethes: its does say what it is going to uninstall, make sure there isn't a kernel on that list
[12:29] <Alethes> alrighty
[12:29] <duane> no thats not it i def have the gx version
[12:29] <Bi||aBong> i install firefox in /usr/local/firefox, how i can run firefox in direct access icon?
[12:29] <duane> alot of sites out there say that they couldnt get this card to work but it worked for me
[12:30] <AxlRose> Alethes: I don't think so
[12:30] <Cobra-Bubbles> ?/
[12:30] <AxlRose> Alethes: it's just for replacing what would be the start button on windows
[12:30] <coreymon77> duane: im curious about something
[12:30] <duane> sure
[12:30] <duane> what do u got
[12:30] <coreymon77> duane: type lspci into a konsole window
[12:30] <coreymon77> duane: and but the output on pastebin
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> Bi||aBong: put /usr/local/firefox as the command in the chorcut
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> *shortcut
[12:31] <coreymon77> duane: okay?
[12:31] <duane> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)
[12:31] <AxlRose> Alethes: found it: kbfx
[12:31] <duane> thats the one for my wireless i think
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> duane: looks like it
[12:31] <coreymon77> duane: just put the whole thing on pastebin
[12:32] <duane> root@duane-laptop:/home/duane/Desktop/programs/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7# lspci
[12:32] <duane> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82830 830 Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
[12:32] <duane> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82830 830 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
[12:32] <duane> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> PASTEBIN!!!
[12:32] <duane> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
[12:32] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin duane
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin duane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <duane> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02)
[12:32] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin | duane
[12:32] <ubotu> duane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:32] <duane> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42)
[12:32] <duane> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
[12:32] <duane> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
[12:32] <duane> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[12:33] <duane> 02:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[12:33] <duane> 02:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[12:33] <duane> 02:04.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)
[12:33] <duane> 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VM (KM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
[12:33] <duane> 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
[12:33] <duane> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)
[12:33] <duane> root@duane-laptop:/home/duane/Desktop/programs/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7#
[12:33] <duane> sorry
[12:33] <coreymon77> duane: i said put it on pastebin
[12:33] <coreymon77> duane: not paste in the channel
[12:33] <duane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9726/
[12:34] <duane> sorry im new at this
[12:34] <duane> there is the link
[12:34] <coreymon77> okay
[12:34] <Cobra-Bubbles> okay something I misunderstand
[12:35] <darkdead> hi
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> Cobra-Bubbles: what?
[12:35] <darkdead> can some ones help me
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: whats your problem?
[12:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> I'm trying to setup ndiswrapper to let me run Windows wifi driver
[12:35] <coreymon77> !ask |darkread
[12:35] <ubotu> darkread: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:35] <coreymon77> duane: wait a sec
[12:35] <darkdead> which distro is compatible whit intel dual core  E6400 and gigabyte ds4
[12:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> All the steps are FINE up until this
[12:35] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: what card
[12:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[12:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[12:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> done
[12:36] <darkdead> i tryed whit 6.6 ls
[12:36] <Cobra-Bubbles> When I do this
[12:36] <darkdead> and it dont load
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: I'd say any of them...
[12:36] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: what card are you using
[12:36] <Cobra-Bubbles> I get a handful of "bash: /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4301.5.conf: Permission denied"
[12:36] <darkdead> ati 1600 pro
[12:36] <Cobra-Bubbles> A Broadcom POS
[12:36] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: what card
[12:37] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: the actual card
[12:37] <Cobra-Bubbles> Hang on...
[12:37] <Cobra-Bubbles> I forgot the command to check it ><
[12:37] <darkdead> 6.06 lts 32 and 64 dont load and after i upgrade they works fine
[12:38] <darkdead> old cpu was athon 64 3000
[12:38] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: dont you know?
[12:38] <Bi||aBong> i access direct icon i put /usr/local/firefox/firefox but this not open?
[12:39] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: put the output of lspci into pastebin
[12:39] <Cobra-Bubbles> I did... Except that I forgot to write it down
[12:39] <space_ninja> My computer freezes everytime I use something graphical demanding. WHat should I do, I have 4 fans in the computer
[12:39] <darkdead> upgrade grafics driver
[12:40] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you still have the install cd that came with it, that would say
[12:40] <darkdead> or get new card :P
[12:40] <Cobra-Bubbles> 03:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.                                                                                                   11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:40] <space_ninja> I can't afford a new card
[12:40] <space_ninja> :)
[12:40] <coreymon77> duane: sorry, i really dont know what to do
[12:40] <space_ninja> I haven't got any money for the last 3 months :)
[12:40] <mobkey> then dont do anything graphically demanding
[12:40] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: is the air coming out the back of your computer pretty hot?
[12:41] <duane> i  cant add the command to startup
[12:41] <space_ninja> no, it's cool
[12:41] <darkdead> whit model is it?
[12:41] <coreymon77> duane: oh that, that you can do
[12:41] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: is the GPU fan full of dust?
[12:41] <darkdead> er which
[12:41] <space_ninja> well
[12:41] <coreymon77> duane: im just not too sure how
[12:41] <coreymon77> duane: ask someone else
[12:41] <space_ninja> no I don't think so, I cleaned it last time I checked it
[12:41] <duane> ok thanks for your help iappreicate it
[12:41] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you still have your cards install cd
[12:42] <coreymon77> duane: sorry i couldnt be of more help
[12:42] <space_ninja> I got one fan in front that is blowing in and one back that is blowing out
[12:42] <space_ninja> then I got one fan on the cpu and one fan on the graphic card
[12:42] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: its probably the drivers then
[12:42] <darkdead> is there any problem whit I965p chipsets and  6.06 lts distro?
[12:42] <Cobra-Bubbles> No... I do have the installation driver from the support site.
[12:42] <space_ninja> I get the same problem using windows
[12:42] <Hub441> hi!
[12:42] <duane> its cool man u do engough for people im sure i can get it i look hard enough i just wanted the easy way out
[12:42] <space_ninja> maybe it is hardware
[12:42] <space_ninja> but maybe not
[12:42] <coreymon77> duane: thanks
[12:43] <space_ninja> I played warcraft 3 for hours
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: yeah, if it happens in both windows and linux, your video card might be borked
[12:43] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you know the manufacturers site fo rthe card?
[12:43] <Hub441> ubiquity causes 100% CPU, not really nice when installing on a laptop
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: or it could be improperly seated in the slot
[12:43] <Cobra-Bubbles> I'm assuming it's Broadcom Wireless' website. In my case I am working with a laptop.
[12:43] <darkdead> na if it work fine at satrt and frozen in the next 3 h seems driver problem
[12:44] <darkdead> er start
[12:44] <Cobra-Bubbles> And I got the driver from Gatway's website
[12:45] <compilerwriter> I need a quick refresher on keys with ssh anyone able to help?
[12:45] <darkdead> btw check the memory if it was hot when games frozen
[12:45] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: umm okay
[12:45] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: give me the driver site
[12:45] <darkdead> or motherboard chipsets
[12:45] <c0nv1ct> darkdead: use your finger? :P
[12:45] <darkdead> too
[12:46] <darkdead> any of theses things make the cards frozen too
[12:46] <duane> cobra does ur card have a light on it
[12:47] <Cobra-Bubbles> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/7000Series/4998nv.shtml
[12:47] <Cobra-Bubbles> The card has a light, and a activation key
[12:47] <darkdead> may ask if anyones had a core duo runing whit i965 chipsets and sata hdds whit 6.06 lts?
[12:47] <space_ninja> c0nv1ct, well It's a agp I think
[12:47] <space_ninja> so there is only one possible slot
[12:47] <albert_> !fluxbox
[12:47] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:47] <duane> are you having an issue connecting to your home network from it
[12:48] <space_ninja> I try armagetron
[12:48] <space_ninja> see if it freezes
[12:48] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah. The light won't light up... Like I said, this is a Broadcom POS
[12:48] <c0nv1ct> space_ninja: well, yeah, only 1 slot, but its possible its not seated properly in that slot
[12:48] <duane> haha
[12:48] <duane> what type of encryption are u using
[12:48] <darkdead> i was donwlading 6.10 now hope it works whit may hardware :(
[12:49] <darkdead> er my
[12:49] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay, you dont need to use ndis
[12:49] <darkdead> fat fingers <---- :P
[12:49] <Cobra-Bubbles> Oh... Wonderful
[12:49] <duane> i was having a simialar issue and was jacking the neibors for the longest time until i changed the encryption to open instead of shared
[12:49] <Cobra-Bubbles> Is there a HOWTO with what I need to be doing?
[12:50] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: ya, me
[12:50] <Cobra-Bubbles> corey, you jsut became my bestest best friend!
[12:51] <darkdead> cobra yu have wifi problems?
[12:51] <Cobra-Bubbles> darkdead: Something like that
[12:51] <darkdead> try upgrade the firm of router
[12:51] <Cobra-Bubbles> I'm hardwired via CAT5 currently
[12:51] <darkdead> which router yu have?
[12:52] <Cobra-Bubbles> It is a Linksys Router
[12:52] <darkdead> custom firm of linksys ones?
[12:52] <Cobra-Bubbles> I can't stand D-Link crap, but my router was almsot $200. It has 2 antennas and we put the super-big antennas onto it
[12:53] <coreymon77> darkdead: its not the router
[12:53] <Cobra-Bubbles> The router's...not really my problem, is it?
[12:53] <coreymon77> darkdead: its that hes using ndis
[12:53] <Cobra-Bubbles> I was gonna say
[12:53] <coreymon77> darkdead: dont overcomplicate things
[12:53] <osiris> dd-wrt + wrt54G rocks
[12:53] <Cobra-Bubbles> None of my other systems have trouble connecting, jsut this one and only because I just switched today from Windows to Kubuntu
[12:53] <darkdead> i trying for hack mine
[12:53] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay now, are you using dapper or edgy
[12:54] <darkdead> comtrend 536+ whit asus firm now
[12:54] <Cobra-Bubbles> Edgy... 6.10
[12:54] <Cobra-Bubbles> I think that's Edgy @_@x
[12:54] <darkdead> now i trying copile myself firm
[12:54] <Cobra-Bubbles> I am suing the 6.10 x86 build
[12:54] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: yup, thats edgy
[12:54] <Fizzbane> How can I get dual moniters working? i have an Nvidia 7300gs video card.
[12:54] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[12:54] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: follow these instructions carfully
[12:54] <Cobra-Bubbles> Yes sir! ~Salute~
[12:55] <darkdead> but it's fun see 50E router runing a firm of a 150E router :P
[12:55] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: are the universe repositories for apt enabled?
[12:56] <darkdead> no ones runing kubuntu whit i965 chipset?
[12:57] <darkdead> or is there any distro can run in my system?
[12:57] <Cobra-Bubbles> apt?
[12:58] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay, lets start form the begining here
[12:58] <mobkey> ya actually i was wondering why vlc wont install. its says E: couldn't find package vlc
[12:58] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: you ever used apt or adept
[12:59] <bill> could someone tell me how to set a file permission for a folder i don't have access to on my user account?  :\  total linux noob here.. and i heard logging in as root isn't wise.. i'm using kubuntu..
[12:59] <Cobra-Bubbles> Assume me to be new. Msot I've ever done before this point was Hoary Hedgehog LIVE on an old broken Evo N600c
[12:59] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[12:59] <ubuntu> alguien habla espaol?
[12:59] <darkdead> yo
[01:00] <darkdead> XD
[01:00] <ubuntu> y sabes algo de kubuntu?
[01:00] <duane> bill chmod 777 <folder>  will allow access to all users about as much as i know
[01:00] <coreymon77> !es | ubuntu
[01:00] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:00] <darkdead> privado
[01:00] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now listen
[01:00] <Cobra-Bubbles> Awright
[01:00] <Fizzbane> !nvidia
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: we are gonna get into some complicated stuff here, so make sure you listen carefully
[01:01] <Cobra-Bubbles> You ahve my individed attention
[01:02] <khaije> is integrated NX a deliverable for kde4?
[01:02] <Fizzbane> undivided =P
[01:02] <goodbrain> I have a hardware question for anyone who can halp
[01:03] <goodbrain> My hard drives and CDROM drives seen to be recognized but Kubuntu wont let me access them
[01:03] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: go to this site http://pastebin.ca/389816
[01:03] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and copy all the text in the purple box
[01:04] <ubuntu> estoy intentando instalar kubutnu, ahora estoy con el Live DVD, y no estoy seguro que hacer con el tema de las particiones
[01:04] <Cobra-Bubbles> Got it
[01:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: meaning, all the stuff with line numbers beside it
[01:04] <Cobra-Bubbles> Yeah. Everything in purplr is copied
[01:04] <Cobra-Bubbles> purple
[01:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: in konsole
[01:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: type this
[01:05] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: a window poped up right
[01:05] <ubuntu> tengo 2 discos, lo quiero instalar en uno de ellos, cree una particion de 20 Gb con ext3, pero no se como hacer para instalarlo ahi
[01:05] <darkdead> ubunto mira tienes un privado
[01:05] <Cobra-Bubbles> got it
[01:05] <darkdead> no hables aqui
[01:05] <Cobra-Bubbles> Window is here
[01:05] <coreymon77> ubuntu: this is an english channel
[01:05] <ubuntu> sory
[01:05] <darkdead> i told him yet
[01:05] <ubuntu> r
[01:06] <coreymon77> ubuntu: please speak englsish or go to the spanish channel
[01:06] <coreymon77> !es | ubuntu
[01:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:06] <Cobra-Bubbles> Now... do I replace everything there with the code you gave me?
[01:06] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: yes
[01:06] <Cobra-Bubbles> Aaaannnd...Save?
[01:06] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and then save it
[01:07] <Cobra-Bubbles> Thank you...KAte! What's the next step?
[01:07] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: close the window
[01:07] <Cobra-Bubbles> hehe, gotcha
[01:09] <goodbrain> what is this:
[01:09] <goodbrain> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:09] <goodbrain> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[01:09] <goodbrain>        missing codepage or other error
[01:09] <goodbrain>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:09] <goodbrain>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:09] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now in konsole, type this
[01:10] <coreymon77> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:10] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: tell me when that is done
[01:10] <bill> hrm, is it possible to open a konqueror window with root privledges?
[01:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done
[01:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> It's done
[01:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> I mean
[01:11] <Cobra-Bubbles> It downloaded something from the repository
[01:11] <chavo> bill, kdesu konqueror but be careful
[01:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay
[01:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now type
[01:12] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> Konsole returned "OK" haha
[01:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> Cute
[01:12] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now type sudo apt-get update
[01:13] <Cobra-Bubbles> Yay many packages!
[01:14] <bill> chavo - well i just wanna set permissions for my themes folder so i can install kde themes
[01:15] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: is it done?
[01:15] <Cobra-Bubbles> Just now finished
[01:16] <albert_> !xubuntu
[01:16] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:17] <coreymon77> type this into konsole
[01:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:18] <Cobra-Bubbles> Ohhhh, The firmware
[01:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: yup
[01:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you already have that package?
[01:18] <Cobra-Bubbles> Nope!
[01:18] <Thehound666> Got a couple very slight issues with Kubuntu Edgy. On 1 computer, the fsck periodically just finds things wrong, but that never happens with the Windows install.
[01:19] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay, then run that command to get it
[01:19] <Thehound666> last time I had to use live CD to fix
[01:19] <Cobra-Bubbles> I jsut did, so schweet!!
[01:19] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: i know, apt is really good isnt it?
[01:19] <Cobra-Bubbles> I love apt
[01:19] <Thehound666> other is smaller, a computer on a slow line and the frequent updates
[01:19] <Cobra-Bubbles> Next step?
[01:20] <Thehound666> I guess I would like to know a probable root cause of filesystem errors
[01:20] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: next it this
[01:21] <Xanith> Does anyone maybe know something about why I'm getting a 404 error on the opera repository?
[01:21] <Thehound666> only on 1 pc which has no windows issues
[01:21] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[01:21] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: run that command
[01:22] <Cobra-Bubbles> Downloads in a text-based format... Makes me itch for the OG Zmodem protocol
[01:22] <Thehound666> I'll try other channel
[01:22] <Cobra-Bubbles> DONE!
[01:22] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:23] <Xanith> I'm actually getting 404 Errors on Opera and Wine Repositories... Anyone maybe know something I don't?
[01:23] <lisapc> hello
[01:23] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: next is this
[01:23] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[01:23] <lahcen> hello
[01:24] <Cobra-Bubbles> I did it
[01:24] <Cobra-Bubbles> Konsole didn't return anything, but I did it
[01:24] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: it shouldnt
[01:24] <lisapc> i have dsl ethernet modem up and running in MS Windows!  but today I installed Kubuntu but it doesnt connect to internet!  what can I do pls?
[01:24] <Cobra-Bubbles> Oh okay
[01:24] <Cobra-Bubbles> ^_^
[01:25] <lahcen> guys, I can't get into adept updater, It says that my password is incorrect, but i am sure it is correct
[01:25] <coreymon77> everyone
[01:25] <coreymon77> patience
[01:25] <coreymon77> please
[01:26] <lisapc> i have dsl ethernet modem up and running in MS Windows!  but today I installed Kubuntu but it doesnt connect to internet!  what can I do pls?
[01:26] <AxlRose> ok...can anyone tell me why kubuntu is not detecting my audio CD's
[01:27] <mothbitten> lahcen: do any other suo'ed commands work, say "sudo uptime"?
[01:28] <mkquist> lisapc - did it work using the live cd?
[01:28] <lisapc> mkquist never teried the livecd
[01:28] <lisapc> havtn got one
[01:28] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now
[01:29] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: type iwconfig
[01:29] <coreymon77> and pastebin the results
[01:29] <Cobra-Bubbles> Now is the moment of our discontent!
[01:29] <Cobra-Bubbles> okay
[01:29] <jules_> how do you get to another server
[01:29] <Cobra-Bubbles> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[01:29] <Cobra-Bubbles>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[01:29] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: stop!!!
[01:30] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you know what pastebinm is
[01:30] <coreymon77> !pastebin |Cobra-Bubbles
[01:30] <ubotu> Cobra-Bubbles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <mkquist> lol
[01:30] <AxlRose> how do you mount audio cd's :S
[01:30] <coreymon77> AxlRose: same way you mount all other cds
[01:30] <jules_> are there other chatrooms here
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> AxlRose: that would be audiocd:/
[01:31] <jules_> hey fred
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> in koquror
[01:31] <Cobra-Bubbles> http://pastebin.ca/389843
[01:31] <drew_> I'm trying to find a site I saw a few weeks back with a complete sources.list and autmatix2 install "how to", anyone know of one?
[01:31] <Cobra-Bubbles> My mistake
[01:31] <fred_g> hi
[01:31] <Sanne> AxlRose: you can't mount those, the players access them directly.
[01:31] <Cobra-Bubbles> I pasted the text into the wrong window
[01:31] <coreymon77> drew_: do not use automatix!!!!!
[01:31] <jules_> are there othere chatrooms here
[01:31] <jules_> automatix is cooll
[01:31] <crdlb> jules_, tons
[01:31] <drew_> coreymon77: I use it all the time, love it
[01:31] <coreymon77> drew_: dont!!!
[01:31] <AxlRose> Sanne: well it's having a hell of a time doing it :S
[01:31] <coreymon77> drew_: seriously
[01:31] <jules_> how do I find them crdlb
[01:32] <Sanne> AxlRose: haha, guess so ;)
[01:32] <drew_> coreymon77: and why not? because a few people have had trouble?
[01:32] <coreymon77> !automatix |drew_
[01:32] <ubotu> drew_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:32] <crdlb> jules_, which one are you looking for? #ubuntu, #xubuntu
[01:32] <AxlRose> Sanne:  it finally detected correctly
[01:32] <sound_fx> Cobra-Bubbles: Are you using ndiswrapper?
[01:32] <jules_> one thats not technical
[01:32] <Sanne> AxlRose: glad it worked
[01:32] <coreymon77> sound_fx: he doesnt have to
[01:32] <jules_> :)
[01:32] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okat then
[01:32] <Cobra-Bubbles> sound_fx: No. I'm following a set of instructions coreymon77 is giving me
[01:32] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you know your wireless info
[01:33] <drew_> does anyone have the howto?
[01:33] <Sanne> jules_: most on the freenode network are technical. It's the home of a lot of free software projects.
[01:33] <coreymon77> drew_: you are not gonna get anything about automatix here
[01:33] <drew_> I have it bookmarked at home, but I'm at a friends house
[01:33] <sound_fx> Ok... I just got my wireless working today via ndiswrapper. :P
[01:33] <Cobra-Bubbles> Router name, WEP, IP, Default Gateway? Yeah
[01:33] <coreymon77> okay then
[01:33] <crdlb> jules_, #ubuntu-classroom ?
[01:33] <jules_> so how do you change network
[01:33] <jules_> I used to go to dalnet or undernet
[01:33] <Cobra-Bubbles> and i...Hey... My wifi light is on
[01:33] <crdlb> jules_, /join #channel
[01:34] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: yup!
[01:34] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now, do get it to go on whenever you turn on your computer
[01:34] <jules_> like /join #dalnet
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> yes
[01:35] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: go to system settings
[01:35] <crdlb> jules_, not if dalnet is an irc server
[01:35] <jules_> then how do you change server
[01:35] <crdlb> jules_, that's for channels within a server
[01:35] <Cobra-Bubbles> there
[01:35] <zeekstarr> can someone at least direct me to a page with complete source list?
[01:35] <ccc> jules_: /server <name>
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> zeekstar: automatix messed you up?
[01:36] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now fo to network settings
[01:36] <zeekstarr> no
[01:36] <zeekstarr> fresh install
[01:36] <zeekstarr> on a friends
[01:36] <zeekstarr> I always have the link bookmarked at home, but don't have it here
[01:36] <coreymon77> !source-o-matic | zeekstarr
[01:36] <ubotu> zeekstarr: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:36] <Cobra-Bubbles> hrm...there...and eth0 shows as active...YAY!
[01:36] <coreymon77> but wait
[01:37] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: scroll down and there should be a button that says administrator mode
[01:37] <Hasrat_USA> I'm suspecting that someone entered my room and shut down the PC by pressing and holding the power button. How can I run the chkdsk equivalent of Linux to make sure that my HDD is safe?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> zeekstar...I'll copy mine, ok?
[01:37] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: clcik it and then put in your password when asked
[01:37] <zeekstarr> does it not give an option for kubuntu?
[01:37] <coreymon77> !source-o-matic |zeekstarr
[01:37] <ubotu> zeekstarr: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: does so on boot
[01:37] <Cobra-Bubbles> okay, I am now in Admiinistrator Mode!
[01:37] <zeekstarr> got that, but does it not need to offer a kubuntu? or is it all the same?
[01:37] <coreymon77> zeekstarr: no, its all the same
[01:38] <zeekstarr> k
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> zeekstarr: no need for a kubuntu repository
[01:38] <coreymon77> zeekstarr: source-o-matic is a kubuntu thing anywyas
[01:38] <zeekstarr> k thanks
[01:38] <Hasrat_USA> nosrednaekim: i'm running Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy. Am i supposed to see the ckdsk program thingy perform the disk-checking operation during boot-up after an abnormal shutdown?
[01:38] <Hasrat_USA> *performing
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: it does so automatically
[01:38] <zeekstarr> so instead of using automatix2 your all recommending that I find and install each thing? that takes way longer
[01:39] <Hasrat_USA> nosrednaekim: so you're saying that i won't be able to see it in action?
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> zeekstarr: what do you want to install?
[01:39] <zeekstarr> just the basic media needs, yadda yadda, trying to convert a windows user to linux here
[01:39] <Cobra-Bubbles> zeekstarr it's my expirience that if something takes longer to achieve, it feels better once you achieve it.
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: no, there is a command for it (and when it does it on boot it'll show you)
[01:39] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now, in the window
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> zeekstarr: no need for automatix then
[01:39] <hyper_ch> anyone here on feisty and konversation?
[01:40] <zeekstarr> also any nvidia drivers
[01:40] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: click on eth0 and then click configure
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> zeekstarr: they are all in the official ubuntu repositories
[01:40] <ben325e_> is there a kubuntu effects channel?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> ben325e_: no
[01:40] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay?
[01:40] <Hasrat_USA> in that case the command/software/checdisc thing didn't do any check on the disk since i didnt see squat after i found my computer shut down upon entering my room and started it again
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: oh...ok
[01:41] <Xanith> grr i still can't get opera to install.. is it not on Edgy or what?
[01:41] <zeekstarr> nosrednaekim: yes I know, but you can't deny automatix saves time
[01:41] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah... I plugged in the SSID of my router but haven't done anything else yet
[01:41] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> zeekstarr: in the long run....I don't know......it can turn out to be a hassle
[01:41] <Hasrat_USA> nosrednaekim: do you think i should run a disk check now since Ubuntu didn't check for errors on the disk automatically after the abnormal shutdown
[01:41] <flaccid> zeekstarr: it doesn't save time when it breaks your system and you have to fix it
[01:41] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: input all of your info in the boxes
[01:41] <flaccid> :)
[01:41] <zeekstarr> that's wierd to here, I've used at least on 5 computers and loved it, no problems
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: no everything should be OK...
[01:42] <Cobra-Bubbles> Got it
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> I have *never* had data loss after hard reboot
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> and i've been using linux a LONG time
[01:42] <Cobra-Bubbles> I temporarily disabled the WEP encryption on my router to make network setup easier on me
[01:42] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Cobra-Bubbles: good ide
[01:42] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: do you know about fsck?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: thats the ONE!!!
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> thank you..
[01:43] <Hasrat_USA> i'm just wondering who the f shut down my pc in my absense
[01:43] <Cobra-Bubbles> fsck, finger, mount... Makes a guy wonder just how horny most of these guys are :-p
[01:43] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: did you click on advanced settings in that window
[01:43] <Hasrat_USA> absence even
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: maybe you have it set to shut down automatically?
[01:44] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: did you?
[01:44] <Hasrat_USA> i have never touched that option
[01:44] <Cobra-Bubbles> Well, I have now... I added the default Gateway
[01:44] <Hasrat_USA> i don't even know how to do that
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> oh..ok...
[01:44] <darkdead> dam hha aalmost burned my cpu
[01:44] <Hasrat_USA> and previously my computer ran for 6-7 days max with a fully functional Beryl
[01:44] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:44] <darkdead> clooer stoped and cpu was very hot
[01:44] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: things are set up, so re-enable wep and then put in your wep key
[01:45] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: tell me when thats done
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: OUCH!
[01:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> Thank god for HTML-based rotuer administration... Changes saved...Done.
[01:46] <darkdead> dam i was seting new hdd for install kubuntuu and seems i disconect coller cable
[01:46] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay, enter your wep key into the windwo
[01:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> Got it... Hooray for copy and paste commands!
[01:46] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: is that done?
[01:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> yup, hit okay???????
[01:46] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: no
[01:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> oops, held down the slash too long
[01:47] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: is the "activate when computer starts" box checke/
[01:47] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah. Made sure of that one
[01:47] <darkdead> it will hurts bad was new comp only 4 weeks old
[01:47] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: press okay
[01:47] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now go to network profiles
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: is the cooler still dead?
[01:47] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done and done...On to...Profiles!
[01:47] <darkdead> no was my mistake
[01:47] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: create new and call it eth0
[01:48] <Hasrat_USA> is there a way i can connect a webcam to ubuntu and configure it in such a way that it would send a message/alarm to my mobile phone whenever it detects some activity in its path?
[01:48] <khaije> heavy duty question... how do i send arbitrary data through a ssh channel once it's been established?
[01:48] <darkdead> fixed it yet
[01:48] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: hey, got a sec to help me out with a problem?
[01:48] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: have you done that
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: whats the problem?
[01:48] <darkdead> temp control turned comp off and save my day
[01:48] <Cobra-Bubbles> There
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: good
[01:48] <Hasrat_USA> my landlord is being a b**** he has come into my room and searched through my stuffs before...i know he shut down the PC
[01:48] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i ended up upgrading to kubuntu edgy. now i can't get the opera repository to work at all. I keep getting 404 errors, same thing with wine and a few others. Any clues?
[01:49] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now click on eth0 and press save selected
[01:49] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: done?
[01:49] <khaije> i use my machine as a ssh-web-proxy, but i'd like to vnc into as well (using the same channel, but after the fact)
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: are you using the repository from dapper?
[01:49] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: all the respoitories end in edgy
[01:49] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA but that's a parents perogitive
[01:50] <Cobra-Bubbles> eth0 is not in the thing. I accidentally closed the network settings window a moment ago after hitting ok, and it said it saved my changes.
[01:50] <hyper_ch> !konversation
[01:50] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[01:50] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: what do you mean
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> ok.... Xanith I'm notsure about how the upgrade works, maybe it ust replaces and mention of dapperin the sources.list with edgy
[01:50] <Cobra-Bubbles> eth0 isn't in NEtwork Profiles
[01:50] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[01:50] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: press create new
[01:50] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and call it eth0
[01:50] <Cobra-Bubbles> okies
[01:50] <ben325e_> cobra -bubbles, i like your nick... a good mix of bad A and not bad A :)
[01:50] <Xanith> well, i didn't upgrade, i did a fresh install
[01:51] <Hasrat_USA> intelikey you don't understand. I don't have parents in here. if i had, they wouldn't have done things like that. It might be possible that my landlord SOB came into my room when i was at work and found the PC running and thought it was using too much electricity and turned it off. he has done similar things before but never told me, nor did i ever asked him
[01:51] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done
[01:51] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i didn't upgrade i did a fresh install, because i tried that other distro you recommended, but we're not gonna go there lol
[01:51] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now click on eth0 and press save selected
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: haha
[01:51] <Hasrat_USA> for example, i had two bottles of Wine on my table and they were gone. I was sure it's the landlord who took it
[01:51] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done
[01:51] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now press apply
[01:52] <Hasrat_USA> i MUST purchase and install some kinds of security devices in my freaking home tonight
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> Xanith, where did you get the repos from?
[01:52] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done!
[01:52] <darkdead> well no ones had gigabyte ds4 runing whit kubuntuu 6.06ls?
[01:52] <Hasrat_USA> i just had enough
[01:52] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now in konsole type this
[01:52] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: Trevino's Blog or something like that
[01:52] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> !opera
[01:52] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[01:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:53] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: tell me when thats done
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> check out those two for opera and wine respectively: I have had repositories be bad
[01:53] <Cobra-Bubbles> Downloading!
[01:53] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: tell me when its done
[01:53] <darkdead> tryed when i was fixing my cooler again and seems 6.06 ls had problems whit I965 chipset or i was wrong?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> !i965
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i965 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Cobra-Bubbles> Right. Wow big file...thet or slow server
[01:55] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: w/e
[01:55] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: ok i'll try those i'll be back in a sec
[01:55] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: just tell me when its done
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: and remove those other repositoried srom sources.list
[01:56] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: done yet?
[01:56] <darkdead> this distro will works whit my machine  kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso    ?
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: probably...
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> whats your chipset?
[01:57] <Cobra-Bubbles> 25% @_@x
[01:57] <zeekstarr> ok I updated my repositories list and now when I open adept I'm getting this error: "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem." How can I fix this?
[01:57] <darkdead> i965expres
[01:57] <darkdead> and sat disc
[01:57] <darkdead> 7
[01:57] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay, just tell me when its done
[01:57] <darkdead> er sata hard drives
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> did you try those two commands zeekstar?
[01:57] <Cobra-Bubbles> Right
[01:57] <zeekstarr> yes
[01:57] <zeekstarr> apt-setup isn't found as a command
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> and it still says that?
[01:58] <darkdead> i tryed native sata on bios and whitout it and seems no works
[01:58] <darkdead> soo i am thinking if whit the lasted distro will works
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: sata isn't your problem..because you can't even boot the live cd right?
[01:58] <darkdead> yes
[01:58] <intelikey> why wont my console display   ?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: it gives you a blank screen?
[01:59] <darkdead> seems chipset problem
[01:59] <Cobra-Bubbles> bah...35%
[01:59] <Hasrat_USA> how do i disable the effect that occurs when you hover your mouse cursor over programs in the taskbar? i know you people are familiar with it. it's like a nice animation that comes up along with the name of the program printed inside a rectangle. how do i disable it?
[01:59] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: btw
[01:59] <zeekstarr> what can I do to fix adept?
[01:59] <Cobra-Bubbles> Hrm?
[01:59] <darkdead> itstops on hdds detect
[01:59] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: see what i mean you shouldnt use ndiswrapper if you dont have to
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: hmm...
[02:00] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now, whenever you turn on your computer, your internet will be working without having to do anything
[02:00] <Cobra-Bubbles> haha. Why use a Windows driver if the firmware is available? I musta been reading a serious out-of-date document
[02:00] <darkdead> i read there is the same problem whit asus pb5 delux
[02:00] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: no more pesky commands, or loading up ndiswrapper
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: try a diffectent distrobution
[02:00] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: it will just work
[02:00] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA right click the taskbar and configure it
[02:00] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: like it shoudl
[02:00] <darkdead> same chipset
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> darkdead: oh...is there?
[02:01] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: isnt that a little better?
[02:01] <darkdead> gigabite ds4 it's like the pb5 delux
[02:01] <darkdead> same hard config
[02:01] <Cobra-Bubbles> My brother uses Ndiswrapper. He'll be livid I found a better way :-p
[02:01] <wsjunior> "#30447 Using fglrx or ati drivers may cause KDM/xorg to freeze on logout or reboot" - Does anybody know any way to fix this? (Except uninstalling fglrx)
[02:01] <Hasrat_USA> oh thanks intelikey that was so easy. it's called 'pesky icon mouseover effect' and i unchecked it'
[02:01] <flaccid> i need to get a frustration out. mailman sux!
[02:01] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: it keeps failing on opera
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> ok... yeah..I did hear something about support for the i965
[02:01] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i've removed all but the default repositories for testing this
[02:01] <Hasrat_USA> now i can start Beryl
[02:02] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA that's not what it's called, but it's in there somewhere
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> xanith, did you do it from within "add romove programs?
[02:02] <darkdead> and pb5 it's a bad ass mother board the best of best for me
[02:02] <Cobra-Bubbles> My brother tried telling me to try out Beryl
[02:02] <Xanith> no i'll try that
[02:02] <darkdead> ds 4 too
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Cobra-Bubbles: uhh oh
[02:02] <Hasrat_USA> well it's called Icon Mouse-over effect and after unchecking it, the pesky animation and everything is gone intelikey
[02:03] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: i know, ndis sucks doesnt it
[02:03] <intelikey> yep
[02:03] <Cobra-Bubbles> I kinda like KDE, except everything seems kinda...plain
[02:03] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: it doesn't show up there either
[02:03] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: my kde doesnt look plain
[02:03] <me2win> !ssh
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> !opera | Xanith
[02:03] <Cobra-Bubbles> 64% on file #2
[02:03] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:03] <ubotu> Xanith: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:03] <Hasrat_USA> okay beryl is up and running :)
[02:03] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and i dont use beryl
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: does it look nice?
[02:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: anyways, hows the download commin along?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Cobra-Bubbles: I do... but good luck with it
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> cause it sure ain't easy to set up
[02:04] <Hasrat_USA> nosrednaekim: I live on this earth because of Beryl or Compwiz
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: aliens don't have anything better?
[02:04] <Hasrat_USA> Beryl is my girlfriend and i don't really give a s*** about a real firl
[02:04] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: wheres the download at?
[02:04] <Hasrat_USA> *girl
[02:05] <Hasrat_USA> aliens may or may not exist i don't care
[02:05] <Cobra-Bubbles> 75% of file 2
[02:05] <Hasrat_USA> all i care about is Beryl is my girl
[02:05] <Cobra-Bubbles> main kdelibs-data
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: ok then...
[02:05] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: nothing is working
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> does it see opera?
[02:05] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: no
[02:06] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: does anyone else running edgy have these problems?
[02:06] <Hasrat_USA> nosrednaekim: i'm sorry if i sound rude but 1. i'm drinking Becks 2. i'm trying to figure out why the liar landlord shut down my pc
[02:06] <darkdead> ok dontloading lasted distro hope it works i love kubuntuu more than other distros
[02:06] <Hasrat_USA> but Beryl looks nice. you should check her out
[02:06] <coreymon77> darkdead: you will
[02:07] <Xanith> Hasrat_USA: i can't even install that off the repositories lol
[02:07] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: progress?
[02:07] <intelikey> Hasrat_USA i'm not the least bit interested in your girl.  you keep her.
[02:07] <Cobra-Bubbles> 93% of kdelibs-data
[02:07] <Hasrat_USA> Xanith: you have to add the stable girl's link to your repository
[02:07] <darkdead> lasted distro works whit automatix2?
[02:08] <Hasrat_USA> xanith if you go for the unstable hotty (bleeding edge beryl) it's gonna create some problems
[02:08] <lisapc> im using ethernet modem in ms windows and works great!  tgodaty I instyall kubuntu and no connection to internet!  any help?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: what?
[02:08] <Hasrat_USA> Xanith: Beryl or any eye-dazzling girl isn't usually supported by the official Ubuntu developers
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: stop yapping about beryl!!
[02:08] <intelikey> !automatix | darkdead
[02:08] <ubotu> darkdead: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: I don't have beryl in my repos either..odd..
[02:09] <Cobra-Bubbles> Done!
[02:09] <darkdead> na last time i was whit it works better than synaptics
[02:09] <coreymon77> darkdead: in other words, go ahead install automatix, but dont come crying to use when it messes up your system
[02:09] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i've still yet to get opera, wine or beryl to work on repostitories
[02:09] <Hasrat_USA> Xanith: you can't download it off the default repositories. in Feisty herd developers previously wanted to add it but backed off later due to the fact that most PC users don't have required hardware to run it
[02:09] <coreymon77> i never understand why people want to use autmatix so much
[02:10] <Hasrat_USA> automatix and easyubuntu are NO NO
[02:10] <coreymon77> when apt does the exact same thing and doesnt break systems
[02:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> Corey: Done man
[02:10] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: great
[02:10] <darkdead> well the problem come when i tryed for get ati drivers it crashed all
[02:10] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now go to the kmenu
[02:10] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: go to the internet tab'
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: beryl now works off ubuntu.beryl-project.org repositories
[02:10] <darkdead> ati suports sucks bad
[02:10] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and click on kwifimanager
[02:10] <Xanith> !beryl
[02:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> but I don't know where to find wine or opera
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: is it open
[02:11] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: freat
[02:11] <coreymon77> !!!
[02:11] <me2win> anyone good with beryl? i have a problem i can't solve :P
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: great*
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: we are done!!!
[02:11] <Hasrat_USA> me2win: join #ubuntu-effects
[02:11] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: feels good dont it?
[02:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah
[02:12] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: now one last thing
[02:12] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: on your task bar
[02:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> hrm?
[02:12] <vontux> does anyone in here use "dsniff"?
[02:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> yeah?
[02:12] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: is there a little picture of a package with a red exclamation mark beside it?
[02:13] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you see that anywhere?
[02:15] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: do you
[02:15] <coreymon77> ?
[02:15] <Cobra-Bubbles> I see...yeah
[02:15] <Cobra-Bubbles> I see it
[02:15] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: okay then
[02:15] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: click on it and then enter your password when asked
[02:15] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: this is really starting to piss me off, i can't even get beryl to work
[02:16] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i even did the gpg keys and stuff
[02:16] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: and then just go along with the program
[02:16] <Cobra-Bubbles> and add all the nice programs I want...NICE!
[02:16] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: just clcik next
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: did you use the repositories from berylproject?
[02:16] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: thats an updator
[02:16] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: updater
[02:16] <Xanith> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main
[02:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: you already have these programs
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ok.. thats what i'm using...
[02:17] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: and it's not working for me
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> why can't you get them.. whats the error?
[02:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: that little icon appears when there are updates for any of your packages
[02:17] <Cobra-Bubbles> wow... a lot of stuff what needs updated
[02:17] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: GPG Error
[02:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: yup
[02:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: did you press install
[02:17] <Cobra-Bubbles> I'll do those after I reboot...with WIFI!
[02:17] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: or next
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: wow... never had one of those,I never use GPG keys either...:-P
[02:18] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: yea i've never had to before
[02:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: dont you already have?
[02:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: how are you on the internet
[02:18] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i just want to know why this thing isn't working
[02:18] <Cobra-Bubbles> CAT5 cable
[02:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: w/e
[02:18] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: could you maybe paste your sources.list file?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: sure
[02:18] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: just do this anyways
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin > nosrednaekim
[02:18] <coreymon77> Cobra-Bubbles: unless you really want to restart first
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> this is such BS.  this site specifically claims that it supports firefox 2.0...  on win98, me, 2k, xp, and os x.  and won't run because i'm on *nix
[02:19] <Cobra-Bubbles> brb
[02:19] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: what are you talking about sorry?
[02:19] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: i know, annoying aint it?
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> flaccid: just a pet peeve.
[02:20] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: same
[02:20] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: what program you talking about
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> firefox
[02:20] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido tell your browser to send ie as the ident
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9745/
[02:20] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: on what OS/distro?
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> the site is the fafsa online registration site
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> flaccid: kubuntu/6.10
[02:20] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: look at the pm
[02:21] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: mind if i have the URL of the page you talking about?
[02:21] <userund> Daisuke_Ido, if it's supposed to work with firefox, then it's just discriminating on user agent.  Send a different UA like Firefox on Windows and voil
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/FOTWWebApp/complete005.jsp
[02:21] <Fizzbane> !nvidia
[02:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:21] <panathos> pls... how is bash syntax to show an absolute path of files?
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> 2007-2008
[02:21] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: whats the prob with the page. it doesn't work right in firefox?
[02:22] <flaccid> panathos: i don't understand?
[02:22] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: point out what doesn't work on the page, i'll let you know why
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> continuing onto the next page, it gives me the "this browser isn't certified"
[02:23] <darkdead> which page ?
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> click next and it hangs
[02:23] <intelikey> browser ident error.
[02:23] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746/
[02:23] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: that's me running your exact sources.list file
[02:23] <userund> Daisuke_Ido, it works, I'll tell you how to do it
[02:24] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: ah thats like someone said before. its the UA string because the site sniffs. and yeah next page does seem to hang
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> so i'm switching user agents
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: interesting...
[02:24] <userund> Daisuke_Ido, go here and grab this UA https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> like i said, it's not a big deal, just a pet peeve and something that shouldn't
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> maybe their servers are down
[02:24] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido oh. well you don't need help if you use linux  the gov knows that.
[02:24] <intelikey> :)
[02:24] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: theres a firefox extension for that
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: just installed it :D
[02:25] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: its one of my favs
[02:25] <userund> Daisuke_Ido, restart, then go to Tools > UA Switcher > set it to IE.  Try again.  worked like a charm for me.
[02:25] <Fizzbane> How do I enable restricted repositories in kubuntu?
[02:25] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: well its a government site right? what country?
[02:25] <userund> flaccid, US
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> US
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> and it works just fine with the IE useragent
[02:25] <flaccid> they are breaking the law if its a US gov site
[02:25] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: do u think it's possible that all 3 i'm having problems with are down?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> maybe
[02:26] <flaccid> not section 508/wcag compliant. i would make a complaint about the site.
[02:26] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: did u try to run apt-get update to see what u get right now?
[02:26] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: http://www.section508.gov/
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> nah..I can't uprgrade..too slow of internt connection
[02:27] <flaccid> Daisuke_Ido: sue them if you can :)
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: sorry misunderstood
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> sure
[02:27] <intelikey> flaccid you dont file suit on first complaint.
[02:27] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i was about to ask if ur internet consisted of a mouse on a wheel.. lol
[02:27] <flaccid> intelikey: INAL or US resident
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: yeah... haha
[02:28] <intelikey> you make them them aware. then if it doesn't change you file suit.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i think they can skirt that with the "we check compatibility on new browsers quarterly"
[02:29] <flaccid> doesn't relate to browsers. it relates to accessibility
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: I did the update,no new updates from that mirror,but I could connect to it
[02:29] <flaccid> the stupid thing is that http://www.section508.gov/ is not even section 508 or wcag level 1 compliant
[02:29] <jim__> im looking for a good p2p file share prog any suggestions
[02:29] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: hmm ok im going to throw something at the computer then
[02:30] <flaccid> i really hate how most internet related laws are just bs. never policed, never clear et.
[02:30] <Xanith> well there are quite a few upgrades available, maybe i'll try that and then try again
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Xanith.. WAIT!!
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[02:30] <userund> jim__, amule, frostwire, or bittorrent
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> there ya go..same error
[02:30] <david___> dont use p2p
[02:30] <david___> use newsgroups or torrents
[02:31] <david___> if you are downloading mp3's p2p will get you in trouble much quicker...
[02:31] <jim__> -i already use torrents know nothing about newsgroups though help?
[02:31] <BluesKaj> jim, try amule
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> Xanith is that the same error?
[02:31] <david___> i found out about them a few days ago
[02:31] <david___> and they are great
[02:31] <david___> full http download speeds..and almost any file imagineable
[02:31] <jim__> thanks blue i will
[02:32] <BluesKaj> newsgroups aren't reliable anymore
[02:32] <david___> well they are for me...
[02:32] <david___> they work perfectly
[02:32] <david___> i dont have to pay for a newserver either
[02:32] <BluesKaj> thru your ISP ?
[02:32] <david___> yes and thru karoo news for free :)
[02:32] <jim__> i remember usenet on aol like in 96 but havent used them since
[02:33] <david___> put it this way its quick.
[02:33] <albert> which command line is the opposit of apt-get install?
[02:33] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: yea thats the same error
[02:33] <crimsun> apt-get remove
[02:33] <albert> ty
[02:34] <david___> just use the gui...itd be quicker if you are having problems
[02:34] <Xanith> ahh yes good ol AOL, i've actually seen a few IRC servers that block AOL IP's.. lol
[02:35] <raindog> I have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed.  I'm currently logged into my KDE session.  Under 'System Services' I see that GDM is running, but KDM isn't.  Am I missing something?
[02:35] <coreymon77> ya
[02:35] <david___> does any one know if kubuntu supports xvid and divx?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> xanith...probably a temporary problem with the servers
[02:35] <coreymon77> remember those aol cds
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> david___: yes it does
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> "xvid
[02:35] <coreymon77> i used to use those as coasters :p
[02:35] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: ok i can live with that
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !xvid
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <flaccid> david___: it does but not off the shelf
[02:35] <david___> not xvid?
[02:35] <Xanith> i used to use aol cds as awesome fizzbies.. sometimes if i got bored i'd break out the shot gun, they make pretty hard targets on a pidgeon slinger
[02:36] <david___> i need that one the most for south park
[02:36] <naught101> anyone ever had this problem?: my main panel randomly dies, and I have to go to the panel config of another panel, change to the main panel, and re-set it's position...
[02:36] <jim__> my xvid and divx plays fine i had to install a few extra codecs first
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> david it is in the repositories
[02:36] <naught101> happened in dapper, edgy, and now in feisty
[02:36] <david___> thx thats all i needed to know.. :D
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> naught: its a know bug
[02:36] <rob-west> does anyone have a video card they dont need
[02:36] <naught101> nosrednaekim: no real solution as yet?
[02:36] <david___> cos south park seasons 11 is in motion...
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> nope not that I know of...
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> happens periodicaly to me though
[02:37] <intelikey> Xanith sail them at just a slight pitch off a high mountain.... they go for ever.
[02:37] <david___> is there a linux version/port of IMGBurn??
[02:37] <|Jason8||> rob-west, i have a video card.  Diamond voodoo banshee 16 MB AGP
[02:37] <|Jason8||> :p
[02:37] <rob-west> i need more ram then that
[02:37] <rob-west> :P
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: howd the grub thingy go?
[02:38] <naught101> ok
[02:38] <rob-west> i need atleast 128MB
[02:38] <Xanith> intelikey: AWESOME, i don't think there's any mountains nearby but there are some good size hills
[02:38] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim, didn't work.
[02:38] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim, I'm just reinstalling...
[02:38] <jim__> thanks ubotu i was looking for my bookmars of those pages but couldnt find them
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: good idea...
[02:38] <BluesKaj> for you guys adventurous enuff to use CLI instaed of GUI , doing video conversion and making dvd's from avi files , tovid rocks !
[02:39] <naught101> CLI?
[02:39] <david___> command line?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> Command Line Interface
[02:39] <david___> ah :D
[02:39] <BluesKaj> yup :)
[02:39] <intelikey> Xanith no mountians here either... :(  but i'm not always where i am....     err that dont sound just right does it?
[02:39] <unholyskorn> hey guys, i got a problem, i restarted recently and my Vista will not boot, it goes to the loading screen and freezes. is there a way to redo the grub boot loader to reinstall the boot for linux and vista?
[02:39] <Cobra_Bubbles> Success, Corey!
[02:40] <malik_> where can i find the file mplayerrc?
[02:40] <Cobra_Bubbles> Cobra Bubbles is now Wireless
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> unholyskorn: I do not think thats a problem with grub... at least it doesn't sound like it
[02:40] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: yay!
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> COOL!!
[02:40] <david___> i am wireless too! :D
[02:40] <unholyskorn> yah cause even my vista cd wont run when i startup
[02:41] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: one thing though
[02:41] <intelikey> i guess i am always where i am, i'm just not always here.
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> unholyskorn: it won't even boot?
[02:41] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm?
[02:41] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: why are you using Cobra_Bubbles now when you had it with a - earlier
[02:41] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: why the change in nick
[02:41] <Xanith> intelikey: lol
[02:41] <Xanith> i'll brb everyone
[02:41] <amayera> hu
[02:41] <amayera>  I have compiled kde4 and want to start it via KDm but there is no KDE4 entry even though I have added it using /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[02:41] <Cobra_Bubbles> This is how I have it registered
[02:41] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: of you have a registered nick?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[02:41] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[02:42] <flaccid> amayera: try #kde ?
[02:42] <Cobra_Bubbles> I registered it earlier this evening
[02:42] <david___> i kde 3.5.2 is there any difference from then?
[02:42] <david___> i have*
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: what are going to try out now?:-P
[02:42] <amayera> flaccid: I try #kde-devel while trying here, hopefully sb knows.
[02:42] <flaccid> david___: yes
[02:43] <david___> does it look different?
[02:43] <david___> or just more features
[02:43] <Cobra_Bubbles> Probably going to find a decent messenger.
[02:43] <flaccid> david___: check the changelog, few minor diffs
[02:43] <david___> kopete is nice
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: or GAIM(I use GAIM)
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> I know I know... not mucha  purist am I?
[02:43] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: look at the pm
[02:44] <Hasrat_USA> kopete doesnt have either voice or webcam support
[02:44] <flaccid> i've used webcam on kopete before
[02:44] <flaccid> its had support for a while
[02:45] <malik_> where can i find the file mplayerrc?...........any1 have any idea?
[02:45] <david___> is there any cd burning app that is as good as imgburn (win32) for burning xbox360 games?
[02:45] <flaccid> malik_: have you searched for it
[02:45] <david___> try repos...
[02:45] <unholyskorn> anyone use vista?
[02:45] <david___> i did
[02:45] <Xanith> wow it upgraded to 3.5.6 that quickly?
[02:46] <david___> but my wifi wasnt compatiable... wifi usb adapters :(
[02:46] <Xanith> now if i can just get this thing to do anything else that i want it to do
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> Xanith... used to long compile times...?:-D
[02:46] <malik_> yes n it turned up nothing
[02:46] <khaije> theres a program that will allow me to forward an arbitrary program via the command line, anyone know off the top of the head
[02:46] <|Jason8|> man... I'm reinstalling kubuntu now... What language is this written in originally?  The translations seem a little bad.
[02:46] <|Jason8|> in some spots
[02:47] <flaccid> malik_: i don't have it on my system either. why do you need/want it?
[02:47] <david___> is there any cd burning app that is as good as imgburn (win32) for burning xbox360 game
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8|: english?
[02:47] <flaccid> david___: don't repeat
[02:47] <david___> no wai!!!
[02:47] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: lol yea kde would've taken like all night to install before
[02:47] <david___> some one has to know what i am on about
[02:48] <malik_> i changed the settings in  codecs n demuxer tab coz it wasnt playing a certain file n now i cant rstore it back to default settings........not matter what i do it wont go back
[02:48] <Gh0st75> is there a program for kubuntu that lets you convert mp3s into audio cds? i know k3b can burn audio cds, but i didn't think it converted the files
[02:48] <flaccid> david___: if they do they will msg the chan
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: tell me about it, my brothers with their once a month two day long compile fests
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> gentooers
[02:48] <flaccid> im a freebsd user. it takes me 2 weeks to compile kde on my notebook
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> Gh0st75: I think amarok'll do it
[02:48] <david___> hahaha 2 weeks
[02:48] <david___> what MHz?
[02:49] <flaccid> hehe
[02:49] <intelikey> Gh0st75 audacity can convert them.  prolly mpg123 can too i don't know.
[02:49] <flaccid> pentium M 1.7
[02:49] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: i just don't notice that big of a performance decrease from not compiling to give a crap
[02:49] <david___> ooowft...
[02:49] <david___> so that means its around a 2.0ghz desktop px
[02:49] <david___> pc*
[02:49] <Gh0st75> gah, no hurry, just realized all i have are blank dvds and some cd-rws
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: I do notice  performance increase... but not enough to make me want to do it
[02:49] <flaccid> i guess so
[02:49] <david___> thatd mean it would take me just as long
[02:50] <Gh0st75> will have to see if a local store sells cd-r singles, lol
[02:50] <flaccid> compiilng kde with same flags is going to end up the same as pre-compiled packages generally
[02:50] <david___> did u really have to wait 2 weeks solid?
[02:50] <flaccid> yes i did
[02:50] <david___> if u aint an adult what did your parents say to that?
[02:50] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: well, sometimes i'm willing to trade performance for stability.. this is one of those times
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: but they don't use the same flags, wacky optimizations
[02:51] <flaccid> hehe. i don't talk to my parents :)
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. me too
[02:51] <flaccid> not that i live with them or anything
[02:51] <david___> what age are you
[02:51] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: who does the wacky optimisations? ubuntu or your compile?
[02:51] <flaccid> i'm 25
[02:51] <david___> ok just wondering
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> my brothers doing gentoo
[02:51] <flaccid> cool
[02:52] <david___> why would you want to compile your own build?... is it so it optimizes it for your specific hardware?
[02:52] <flaccid> anyone know of any notebooks with dual dvi out??
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> david___: yeah...
[02:52] <naught101> is there any way to use konqueror's copy function while preserving timestamps etc? ie. cp -p?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: hard enough getting one with ONE DVI
[02:52] <flaccid> david___: yeah. but you would need to change flags/compile options to get any of that. and there isn't much to do in that area
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> at least in kubuntu
[02:53] <david___> ok i dont understand flags...or any compile options for linux sources at least for now..
[02:53] <flaccid> my boss has a dell notebook with 1 dvi, 1 vga. i don't understand why there is no dual dvi
[02:53] <david___> why do you need dual?
[02:53] <flaccid> david___: you don't have to worry about them really.
[02:53] <flaccid> david___: i'm a developer
[02:54] <Xanith> flaccid: compatibility :-p
[02:54] <david___> but multiscreen on either would be fine
[02:54] <flaccid> compatability of what sorry
[02:54] <david___> analog signal is good enough?
[02:54] <Xanith> flaccid: that way if u don't have a HD-Monitor, u can still use it for external monitors
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: there are dvi-vga adapters
[02:54] <flaccid> david___: analog sux hard. it looks so crap on my boss' lcd
[02:54] <flaccid> Xanith: i don't undertstand what you mean
[02:55] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: that's true but how many average-joe users know about that
[02:55] <david___> on my acer 19' ws it looks fine
[02:55] <malik_> does any1 know how to restore mplayer back to default settings?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: true truwe
[02:55] <|Jason8|> Xanith, chances are, if you need an adapter, it's out there.
[02:55] <flaccid> david___: maybe we have higher standards :)
[02:55] <Xanith> flaccid: what if i go to buy a dell notebook, and i only have a monitor with VGA input..
[02:55] <david___> no...i have 20/20 vision honest :)
[02:55] <flaccid> checkout the macbooks. you have to use a dongle with 1 dvi. now that is so crap
[02:56] <joel> malik_:  You could try rename your ~/.mplayer directory and just move back what configuration you want.
[02:56] <flaccid> Xanith: use an adaptor. and in my case i'm not going to use analog lcd. its for digial lcd. but you can get an adaptor/dongle
[02:56] <Xanith> flaccid: granted that you can buy those adapters, a lot of people wouldn't know that, and would probably just replace their monitor lol
[02:56] <Xanith> flaccid: so you have both for compatibility :-p
[02:56] <flaccid> Xanith: well thats how macbooks are shipped now. so hopefully the sales person would advise on sale.
[02:56] <|Jason8|> wtf, the installer crashed :/
[02:56] <Xanith> flaccid: ahh you had to remind me
[02:57] <joel> malik_: ...assuming you did your configuration in your home directory...
[02:57] <Xanith> flaccid: gosh i want a macbook pro so badly
[02:57] <flaccid> Xanith: so did i until i saw the shit video setup
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: ehh... they aren't so good
[02:57] <flaccid> i'm going to buy another asus W*
[02:57] <Xanith> flaccid: i get lucky enough to occasionally repair a macbook pro at work, i love them
[02:57] <flaccid> instead
[02:57] <david___> can u play hl2 on linux?
[02:57] <flaccid> Xanith: there is lots of issues with them. little annoying things
[02:57] <flaccid> david___: yeah
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> specially with linux
[02:58] <david___> do i need to download a loader
[02:58] <david___> i have windows version
[02:58] <flaccid> david___: cedega/wine
[02:58] <Xanith> well if i had a macbook pro, no offense i wouldn't be running linux lol
[02:58] <david___> oh noes not wine
[02:58] <flaccid> Xanith: neither would i. i'd be running PC-BSD and OS X
[02:58] <david___> i dont want to have to emulate
[02:58] <david___> is it slow
[02:58] <joel> hehe... wine means 'maybe'
[02:58] <userund> wine is not an emulator
[02:58] <flaccid> david___: no emulation
[02:58] <david___> so is it a code conversion or something
[02:59] <flaccid> a lot of people have hl2 running faster on nix/wine than win32
[02:59] <Xanith> flaccid: you can laugh it up if u want, but i work on BestBuy's Geek Squad, at the new Geek Squad City location that repairs the laptops
[02:59] <flaccid> david___: its a compatability ayer
[02:59] <flaccid> Xanith: i don't live in the US
[02:59] <david___> ok and how long/big does it install
[02:59] <flaccid> and best buys sucks :)
[02:59] <Xanith> haha i'd have to agree
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> omg you don't? where are you at?
[02:59] <flaccid> david___: check it out yourself :)
[02:59] <Xanith> but, they do pay me $20/hr.
[02:59] <flaccid> thats good
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: where can I sign up?:-P
[03:00] <david___> flaccid where you from...i thought u were american
[03:00] <Xanith> nosrednaekim: Louisville, KY :-p\
[03:00] <flaccid> i'm aussie mate :)
[03:00] <david___> im UK
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: haha too far
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> hows the fall down there?
[03:00] <Xanith> it's winter
[03:00] <Xanith> lol
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> oh... summer
[03:00] <david___> haha nice
[03:00] <flaccid> its end of summer here
[03:00] <david___> we are having spring here...
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> right...
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> not yet!!
[03:00] <Xanith> and we're at about 29 degrees right now
[03:00] <flaccid> im in tasmania that isand at the bottom of austraia
[03:00] <AxlRose> anyone know  much about wine?
[03:01] <david___> axlrose i too want to know more :)
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i know i like a nice pinot noir
[03:01] <david___> i suppose i could wiki it but thatd be a long read
[03:01] <Xanith> but anyway, at Geek Squad City, we repair over 6,000 laptops daily
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: WOW!
[03:01] <Xanith> Hehe, 1/3 of them are Gateway, Go figure.
[03:02] <david___> all by yourself :0
[03:02] <Xanith> Well 1/3 is Gateway/Emachine, which are the same
[03:02] <Xanith> At GSC there are a little over 650 employees right now..
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: just curious how many are acers?
[03:02] <flaccid> quality, not quantity i say
[03:02] <david___> anyone know how to install beryl i cant find it in the repos
[03:03] <Xanith> umm Acers don't really come through much
[03:03] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: probaby half lol
[03:03] <Xanith> the way that the building is organized is by Brand
[03:03] <flaccid> interesting
[03:03] <flaccid> right
[03:03] <flaccid> acer cheapies are shite. acer higher range is good
[03:03] <Xanith> Sony, Having the least amount of problems, also deal with the "Other" catagory
[03:03] <flaccid> where is asus cheap is generally quite good
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> Xanith: hey...my laptops great... and as cheap as they come
[03:03] <flaccid> hmm anybody with a sony i know has had issues constanty
[03:04] <ubuntu> can anyone give me thew link of the spanich room_
[03:04] <Xanith> We might occasionally see an apple come in, like maybe 5 a month or so
[03:04] <david___> xgl beryl anyone have any ideas what im on about? it looks good :P
[03:04] <flaccid> !es
[03:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:04] <Xanith> but i mean sell 1,000 gateways and 5 apples, guess which one u are going to see more often.
[03:04] <david___> no comprendez...
[03:04] <FifthWall> david___: have you tried the wiki?
[03:05] <david___> i dont want to wiki it
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> david: lazy...
[03:05] <david___> il probs get it all wrong
[03:05] <naught101> what am I doing wrong: mv: inter-device move failed: `/media/blackie-efs2sm-1/homebackup20061027' to `/media/blackie-linux/homebackup20061027'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[03:05] <david___> id rather have experts working on the case like worker monkeys...
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> naught.. use "mv -r "
[03:06] <|Jason8|> mmm... I eat worker moneys for breakfast
[03:06] <naught101> ofcourse
[03:06] <naught101> cheers
[03:06] <david___> oh noes
[03:06] <david___> i paid good money for mines so stay back
[03:07] <FifthWall> david: you need to add new repositories if you're going to use apt-get and such.
[03:07] <david___> i have them added
[03:07] <naught101> actually... |Jason8|: -R and -r are invalid options...
[03:07] <david___> i use the multi/universe ones
[03:07] <david___> isnt that enough
[03:07] <|Jason8|> >_>  I didn't say anything.  used the wrong nick, naught101
[03:08] <FifthWall> david: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[03:08] <naught101> sorry.
[03:08] <FifthWall> Just follow that.
[03:08] <david___> ok il try the wiki
[03:08] <naught101> actually... nosrednaekim: -R and -r are invalid options...
[03:08] <david___> but if i mess it up you are held responsible obv
[03:08] <david___> nah jk
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> naught? I thought it was "recursive"
[03:09] <david___> but i bet ill have to reinstall linux by the end of this
[03:09] <naught101> so did I, but aparently not
[03:09] <naught101> maybe that's only for cp
[03:09] <malik_> !pastebin
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> naught101: yeah I guess so
[03:10] <naught101> I'm sure it was working a minute ago... oh well.
[03:11] <david___> oh noes.. i just had to have ati the one with major incompatability...:(
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> david___: yeah.. well
[03:12] <david___> and my gfx in linux are a bit jumpy...is there anything i can do to fix this?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> its really not that bad if you follow the directions
[03:12] <naught101> nosrednaekim: cp -pr, then delete I guess
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> naught101: sounds like a dirty hack
[03:12] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: what you trying to do
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: nothing
[03:13] <david___> well im trying to install beryl
[03:13] <david___> and fix my gfx problems..they are a tad jumpy
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> david___: install the binary ati drivers first... but that should be in the tutorial
[03:14] <david___> i can only get the .rpm so i need to use alien i think
[03:14] <hgk_nz> hey all, i'm trying to listen to mp3's using amarok
[03:14] <hgk_nz> someone suggested upgrading xine extra codecs
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> david___: no...there are packages in the repositoires
[03:14] <hgk_nz> but not sure how to do this
[03:14] <david___> hgk.. if u cant play them just run it and let it install the mp3 support
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> hgk_nz: open "adept"
[03:15] <hgk_nz> nosrednaekim: i have adept open and it has a xine engine for amarOK audio player
[03:15] <hgk_nz> but can't upgrade cos it says will break dependencies
[03:15] <david___> nosred can u direct me to the ati drivers.?
[03:15] <david___> what would i search
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> david___: adept
[03:15] <david___> i know how to use adept
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> "fglrx"
[03:16] <david___> thx
[03:16] <flaccid> nothing thats not what my log says :)
[03:16] <amayera> greetings from kde4
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> hgk_nz: do you see the xine extracodecs?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> amayera: is it sweet?
[03:16] <hgk_nz> no i don't it's not on list in adept
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> !libxine-extracodec
[03:17] <david___> damn.. it filters out everything when i use "fglrx"
[03:17] <flaccid> !ati > david
[03:17] <amayera> nosrednaekim: well, it is really unstable oxygen isn't as good as I thougt and it is not really better than 3.5 yet
[03:17] <flaccid> !ati > david___
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> amayera: I guess things will get better
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> hgk_nz: do you have the multiverse and universe repoitories enabled?
[03:18] <amayera> nosrednaekim: yeah sure. just compiled it because I am curious. Iam really looking forward to 4.0
[03:18] <hgk_nz> nosrednaekim: yep i enable the two of them
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> amayera: was it easy to compile?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> hgk_nz: hold on
[03:19] <david___> flaccid? !ati?
[03:19] <david___> i have ati
[03:20] <flaccid> what ya trying to do david?
[03:20] <david___> get my ati drivers installed
[03:20] <hgk_nz> nosrednaekim: no worries :) thanks for the help
[03:20] <amayera> nosrednaekim: yeah, just followed the instructions on techbase.kde.org  no compile error or anything
[03:20] <flaccid> then follow the guide :)
[03:20] <david___> and then install beryl
[03:20] <david___> ok
[03:20] <david___> that bot sent me it
[03:20] <flaccid> yes
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> amayera: maybe i'll try it
[03:20] <flaccid> !beryl
[03:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:20] <david___> i thought he was reall hahaha
[03:20] <david___> lol bots going mad
[03:20] <david___> jk
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> hgk_nz: did you click the little reload or update button after enableing them?
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[03:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:21] <david___> !botmashface
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botmashface - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <hgk_nz> lol
[03:21] <amayera> nosrednaekim: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[03:22] <david___> !bottime
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> bookmarked it
[03:24] <compilerwriter> Jucato you on?
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> is Jucato like super help man or something?
[03:24] <flaccid> probably
[03:24] <flaccid> there are quite a few of those here
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[03:25] <compilerwriter> nosrednaekim I go looking for him when I need help.  He has never steered me off course yet.
[03:25] <malik_> my tv tuner card shows up in cam device list instead of webcam..............any help will be appreciated n if some one can help i ll even pay for it?
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> compilerwriter: right
[03:25] <compilerwriter> Lynoure is another good one to ask for help from.
[03:25] <lascar> good lord malik_
[03:25] <lascar> pay?
[03:25] <flaccid> you should actually ask the channel for help
[03:26] <lascar> surprise!
[03:26] <malik_> well i can tell this much that damn thing is installed but not showin up in any IM client's device list...........darn tv tuner card shows up n im really annoyed
[03:27] <malik_> so i will gladly pay if some1 can help me fiix it
[03:27] <flaccid> malik_: have you tried tvtime on the card?
[03:27] <malik_> flaccid: whats tvtime?
[03:27] <flaccid> !tvtime
[03:27] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[03:28] <compilerwriter> I need help in setting up ssh to use keys instead of passwords.  I tryed earlier with the aid of someone who seemed knowledgable, but I ended up having to rescue my system.  Could someone help me do it correctly this time?
[03:28] <malik_> i dont care abt tv i want webcam to work which is not workin
[03:28] <flaccid> compilerwriter: probaby not the best channel for that kind of help
[03:28] <Tm_T> compilerwriter: Hmm, I should know those things.
[03:28] <flaccid> malik_:  then why did you mention tv tuner card?
[03:29] <flaccid> what webcam model is it
[03:29] <compilerwriter> Is that an offer to help Tm_T
[03:29] <Tm_T> compilerwriter: I guess. ;)
[03:29] <malik_> becoz it shows up in device list in my IM clients instead of webcam showin up there
[03:29] <Tm_T> malik_: What im client for starters.
[03:29] <flaccid> malik_: doesnt' mean much. the problem is there is no standard webcam protocol.
[03:30] <compilerwriter> query Tm_t rather than flood the channel can we message here?
[03:30] <flaccid> you could msg here to share the knowledge...
[03:30] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: are you still there?
[03:30] <Tm_T> compilerwriter: Query would be fine, hit me while I do some searhing. :)
[03:31] <malik_> hence im askin for help..........to make matters worst im a newbee n i took the plunge but its not turnin out what i thought it wud be
[03:31] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, I'm in the process of installing kubuntu dapper.  It's "Scanning the Mirror" at 1%.  Been there for 15 minutes.  Let it sit or restart?
[03:31] <flaccid> [2007-03-11 13:29]  <flaccid> what webcam model is it
[03:33] <malik_> flaccid: creative pd0040
[03:33] <flaccid> !webcam
[03:33] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:33] <flaccid> is it in supported cams?
[03:34] <flaccid> (i really wish there was a standard webcam protocol. atm *nix users have to try reverse engineered drivers specific to their models and pray basically)
[03:34] <lascar> question: how the hell can i replace my system speakers with my headset for audio output?  I've tried tinkering with the sound system, but to no avail.
[03:35] <david___> i had to enable all repos to get fglrx and alien...oops.
[03:35] <malik_> yes its one of the supported
[03:35] <david___> musta missed one or two repos
[03:35] <flaccid> lascar: you need an headphone out which is amplified or you need a headphone in the line out
[03:35] <|Jason8|> I'm in the process of installing kubuntu dapper.  It's "Scanning the Mirror" at 1%.  Been there for 15 minutes.  Let it sit or restart?
[03:35] <flaccid> malik_: does the guide help you to set up ?
[03:35] <lascar> i've got it connected to a usb adapter, and it's detected
[03:36] <lascar> it even works with Skype and such
[03:36] <david___> do the drivers work instantly for ati or do you need a restart?
[03:36] <david___> cos i see no change
[03:36] <Skuller> david___: restart the X
[03:36] <flaccid> david___: restart X at kdm screen
[03:36] <|Jason8|> guess I'll restart... again
[03:36] <david___> all i done was installed with apt get gui
[03:36] <david___> adept sorry
[03:36] <david___> ok
[03:37] <malik_> flaccid: http://alpha.ovcam.org/ov511/..............here are the guide homepage but this one doesnt make any sense to me .........i followed some other page but that doesnt work either
[03:38] <flaccid> sady malik its going to be like that for a lot of people even when their cam is supported
[03:38] <flaccid> malik_: if you cite a specific problem with the set up of this, i'll help you with that problem
[03:39] <david___> ok... so i restarted the x server but i still get trails when moving windows and stuff.. i have a 256mb 3d gfx card isnt that good enough?
[03:40] <flaccid> yes it is good enough
[03:40] <david___> so why is it still glitching?
[03:40] <flaccid> i don't know
[03:40] <flaccid> perhaps try #xorg
[03:41] <david___> i have a 9550 ati so the driver i installed was the correct one
[03:41] <lascar> flaccid: any more ideas about the headset?
[03:41] <ubuntu> spanish room
[03:41] <flaccid> lascar: did you understand what i said
[03:41] <lascar> yeah, and i'm saying they don't apply
[03:41] <flaccid> why not
[03:41] <lascar> the headset works PERFECTLY under apps like skype
[03:42] <flaccid> you can't listen to something with speakers without an amplifier
[03:42] <lascar> hold on, lemme finish
[03:42] <flaccid> so what app does it not work in
[03:42] <lascar> there's this odd scenario
[03:42] <lascar> i can play 3 media files simultaneously on the speakers
[03:42] <ubuntu> sorry, what was the spanish room link_
[03:42] <lascar> from the 4th on, it switches to the headphones
[03:42] <lascar> but just for the 4th media files and upward
[03:43] <lascar> *file
[03:43] <ubuntu> im having a lot of problems installing kubuntu, and there they are helping me
[03:43] <flaccid> lascar: what sound card is it
[03:44] <lascar> sound is onboard for system
[03:44] <lascar> headset connects to a c-media usb adapter
[03:44] <flaccid> ah ok.. you didn't tell me about that
[03:45] <flaccid> or i missed it
[03:45] <flaccid> um
[03:45] <ubuntu> is there anyone thath knows the spanish room link?
[03:45] <flaccid> so whats the actualy problem lol
[03:45] <flaccid> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:45] <lascar> 8-)
[03:45] <flaccid> is that it ubuntu?
[03:45] <lascar> i want to configure my sound system to output ALL sound to my headset, instead of a half-and-half with the speakers, flaccid
[03:46] <flaccid> so like i asked before which application is not doing this?
[03:46] <lascar> kde itself
[03:47] <flaccid> maybe it doesn't support what you want
[03:47] <flaccid> i guess the ony thing i can suggest is google and consulting the driver documentation
[03:47] <lascar> then why would it switch after handling 4+ media files?
[03:47] <flaccid> i don't know.
[03:47] <lascar> better than nothing i suppose
[03:47] <flaccid> welcome to linux lol
[03:47] <lascar> thanx all the same
[03:47] <lascar> indeed
[03:47] <flaccid> its things like this that really suck
[03:48] <lascar> tell me about it
[03:48] <flaccid> you might run into someone that knows what to do or you might find it in google or forums
[03:48] <flaccid> but you have to be lucky...
[03:48] <lascar> i'll chance it
[03:49] <flaccid> this is where windows beats *nix
[03:49] <SoccerGuy^> where at exactly?
[03:50] <flaccid> it works on windows
[03:50] <SoccerGuy^> i dont know what you guys were talking about
[03:50] <SoccerGuy^> i got here late
[03:50] <flaccid> driver is available on linux, but don't know where the problem might be
[03:50] <SoccerGuy^> oh, hardware
[03:51] <flaccid> its like.. give me some doco to read to see where the problem could be. oh there is no doco, isn't that great...
[03:51] <SoccerGuy^> yessir
[03:53] <SoccerGuy^> my printer used to work in dapper but stopped in edgy
[03:53] <flaccid> dang
[03:53] <david___> go back to dapper then
[03:53] <SoccerGuy^> yeah i went back
[03:53] <david___> dont sacrafice...lol
[03:53] <david___> :D
[03:53] <SoccerGuy^> dapper is ok
[03:53] <flaccid> or perhaps find out why an fix it
[03:53] <SoccerGuy^> i tried
[03:54] <david___> i have dapper...suits me
[03:54] <SoccerGuy^> i think its a gnome printing manager problem. it works in kde, but not in gnoe
[03:54] <SoccerGuy^> gnome*
[03:54] <|Jason8|> I can't get Dapper to install :(
[03:54] <|Jason8|> the installation keeps hanging on me.
[03:55] <SoccerGuy^> are you installing on an old machine, |Jason8|?
[03:56] <|Jason8|> SoccerGuy^: yeah.
[03:56] <|Jason8|> that I am.
[03:56] <|Jason8|> 450 MHz processor, 384 MB of RAM
[03:56] <SoccerGuy^> ah there must be some kind of solution for old systems
[03:57] <|Jason8|> I'm using the LiveCD setup right now.
[03:57] <|Jason8|> works great.
[03:57] <SoccerGuy^> should be in the wiki
[03:57] <|Jason8|> hm?  This is a common problem?
[03:57] <SoccerGuy^> i had something like that
[03:58] <SoccerGuy^> did you burn the cd yourself?
[03:58] <SoccerGuy^> it might be corrupted
[03:58] <SoccerGuy^> or burned at a fast speed
[03:58] <|Jason8|> No, ordered CD
[03:58] <|Jason8|> I have a bunch, maybe I should try a different one.
[03:58] <SoccerGuy^> ok, so we can rule that out
[03:59] <|Jason8|> after I get this figured out, I'll hand 'em out to my friends
[03:59] <SoccerGuy^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[03:59] <SoccerGuy^> i used that, and it worked
[03:59] <|Jason8|> :)  Loading the page as we speak :)
[04:00] <SoccerGuy^> read CAREFULLY
[04:00] <|Jason8|> Okay, I'll read CAREFULLY
[04:00] <SoccerGuy^> good
[04:01] <|Jason8|> But yeah, I've tried installing like 7 times today so far.
[04:01] <|Jason8|> and it's either crashed or just froze :/
[04:01] <SoccerGuy^> yeah, it's an old system
[04:01] <abadtooth> Hey guys I have a problem... I'm trying Kubuntu out for the first time.. err well trying to try it. I downloaded Kubuntu burned it to a cd as an image, I boot off the cd rom drive it boots to the kubuntu menu where I select install or run live ( or whatever it said) and all it does is load to a command line that says something like Ubuntu@Ubuntu
[04:02] <Hasrat_USA> what do you mean?
[04:02] <SoccerGuy^> abadtooth: which cd did you download?
[04:02] <abadtooth> the 6.1
[04:02] <Hasrat_USA> there is no 6.1
[04:02] <abadtooth> one sec
[04:02] <abadtooth> 6.10
[04:03] <SoccerGuy^> abadtooth: i assume you'd need the kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:03] <SoccerGuy^> emphasis on the "desktop" part
[04:03] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: did you download the server version on accident?
[04:03] <abadtooth> that is what I have
[04:03] <abadtooth> nope, desktop
[04:03] <SoccerGuy^> hm, i thought you had the server cd
[04:04] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: did you see any errors, because it should boot up into a GUI environment
[04:04] <flaccid> might have to try the alternate cd ?
[04:04] <abadtooth> Thats what I thought it would do, and no. I saw no errors :(
[04:04] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: is it possible you selected the wrong option at the boot menu?
[04:05] <SoccerGuy^> abadtooth: i think one thing you could try when you get to the prompt, type startx
[04:05] <abadtooth> I tryed a few ones
[04:05] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: the 'Safe Mode' option may take you to a prompt like that
[04:05] <SoccerGuy^> or gdm
[04:05] <abadtooth> but the one on top is the one that is right, correcxt?
[04:05] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: yeah, try typing 'startx' at the prompt
[04:06] <|Jason8|> hrm.
[04:06] <|Jason8|> apparently Legacy machines go slow... wtf is a legacy computer?
[04:06] <SoccerGuy^> abadtooth: if startx doesnt get you anything, try and download a new iso, check the md5sum , and burn it again
[04:06] <c0nv1ct> an old one :P
[04:06] <SoccerGuy^> |Jason8|, legacy = slow
[04:06] <SoccerGuy^> old stuff
[04:06] <abadtooth> ok, I tried typing konqueror in the command line, it said cannot connect to X server or something like that
[04:06] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: yeah that wont work, you need to do startx first
[04:06] <SoccerGuy^> abadtooth: startx <enter>
[04:07] <|Jason8|> yeah
[04:07] <abadtooth> Ick, I would hate to have to DL it agian, my internet sucks!
[04:07] <scotty> In Kopete, is it possible to get the /me command to work?
[04:07] <abadtooth> Yes, I'll go try that. but first I'll have to restart my PC
[04:07] <ict_kubuntu> im indonesian
[04:07] <c0nv1ct> abadtooth: if you have more problems, try the "Check CD for Errors" option
[04:08] <ict_kubuntu> any body from indo
[04:08] <ict_kubuntu> chat with me
[04:08] <abadtooth> So I'll be back in a bit. and yes I already did that and it came up with 0 errors.
[04:08] <abadtooth> Thanks for the tips guys brb
[04:09] <panathos> pls... how can i do a recursive cycle with bash?
[04:10] <panathos> for f in * *.mp3; do mp3gain -r -c "$f";done
[04:10] <panathos> i want to process all subdirectory
[04:10] <kRush> what works better on kubuntu/nvidia card: XGL/AIGLX Compiz/Beryl?
[04:10] <panathos> all files in all subdirectory
[04:13] <jayo> Anyone have an idea about how to get Kubuntu to recognize Belkin USB NicStic
[04:14] <c0nv1ct> kRush: AIGLX
[04:14] <c0nv1ct> kRush: Compiz/Beryl is up to you, Compiz is more stable, but I prefer Beryl
[04:16] <abadtooth> Well I tried Startx...
[04:16] <abadtooth> still no luck it just said fatal error 104
[04:16] <kRush> ok I'll give it a shot
[04:17] <vtiger> How do I fix kstartupconfig?
[04:17] <abadtooth> :( I thought this was going to be like mandriva (EASY!)
[04:18] <vtiger> When I run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start I get a could not start kstartupconfig error
[04:18] <kRush> are the nvidia drivers from repos ready for AIGLX?
[04:18] <vtiger> abadtooth: It is easy :-)
[04:19] <vtiger> Just in a very hard way
[04:19] <abadtooth> lol
[04:19] <vtiger> kRush: Sure why not ? :)
[04:19] <kRush> dunno how up to date the wiki is
[04:19] <abadtooth> Then I might as well sit back and rot in windows
[04:19] <vtiger> abadtooth: Trust me it's a lot easier than Windows
[04:20] <abadtooth> I can actually install windows
[04:20] <kRush> said sth about beta drivers
[04:20] <vtiger> I installed Windows this week after two years. Felt like punching someone
[04:20] <vtiger> So I did!
[04:20] <david___> ahah
[04:20] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[04:20] <abadtooth> How do I get Kubuntu to load?!?!
[04:21] <david___> use the livecd if u have it
[04:21] <vtiger> abadtooth: What is it doing?
[04:21] <abadtooth> I put the CD in it loads kubuntus menu I hit enter with install selected and it just goes to a command line!
[04:21] <vtiger> abadtooth: How much Memory do you have in your computer?
[04:21] <abadtooth> 1gig
[04:22] <vtiger> ok that's cool. How much on the video card?
[04:22] <abadtooth> geforce 6200 PCI 128MB
[04:22] <vtiger> abadtooth: does it go to a busybox comand line?
[04:22] <abadtooth> I don't know it says something like Ubuntu@Ubuntu
[04:23] <vtiger> Hmmm
[04:23] <david___> does grub even work?
[04:23] <vtiger> abadtooth: You wouldn't happen to be on it now?
[04:23] <vtiger> david___: No Hes a lazy slob living off his trust fund
[04:23] <abadtooth> no, I'm on my other HD on windows :(
[04:23] <mjunx> !codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <david___> hahaha
[04:23] <carutsu> !flash
[04:23] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:24] <vtiger> abadtooth: Which Live CD ?
[04:24] <abadtooth> 6.10
[04:24] <carutsu> how do i make konqueror use it
[04:24] <david___> flash 9?
[04:24] <david___> is that macromedia flash
[04:24] <vtiger> carutsu: once you install it I think Konqueror should know it's there
[04:24] <carutsu> david___ yes
[04:24] <david___> full version
[04:24] <david___> without hacks or cracks.. or serials
[04:24] <carutsu> vtiger i even installed firefox... i think didnt work
[04:24] <vtiger> abadtooth: How do you feel about testing new software? :)
[04:25] <abadtooth> Just dandy..
[04:25] <abadtooth> Do it all the time
[04:25] <vtiger> carutsu: Wouldn't matter until you install flash
[04:25] <vtiger> carutsu: Did you read the wiki page?
[04:25] <flaccid> ubuntu feels like beta half the time imo
[04:25] <carutsu> vtiger err i know, i installed booth
[04:25] <carutsu> vtiger i'm afraid no, i just looked for it
[04:25] <vtiger> abadtooth: want to grab the feisty herd 5 CD ?
[04:26] <david___> isnt it feisty fawn?
[04:26] <abadtooth> What would that happen to be?
[04:26] <vtiger> david___: feisty fawn is the trelease each CD is called a herd
[04:27] <vtiger> david___: Borderline retarded but that's what happens when you let people with a sense of humpir name things
[04:27] <vtiger> humor
[04:27] <abadtooth> I'm lsoing hair fast...
[04:27] <vtiger> abadtooth: That's the latest release of the version coming out in April
[04:28] <abadtooth> I want Kubuntu, I don't like gnome
[04:28] <abadtooth> lol
[04:28] <david___> lol lose the hands or your in for a wig
[04:29] <david___> i have kubuntu it looks great!
[04:29] <david___> its better than having two bars..
[04:29] <abadtooth> I feel so stupid! how can it be so hard to install an OS?!? I could install win 3.1 with ease...
[04:30] <david___> at my first try with linux it took me ages to install packages...lol
[04:30] <vtiger> abadtooth: Just havin a bad reaction to your hardware is my guess
[04:30] <vtiger>  I don't know the edgy Cds seem to do that a lot
[04:30] <david___> but first install was a breeze to get running
[04:30] <vtiger>  either go up one release or down one
[04:30] <abadtooth> Would a shotty video input card do anything?
[04:31] <vtiger> abadtooth: no Clue take it out and see
[04:31] <vtiger> abadtooth: You can always install it later if that's the problem
[04:32] <abadtooth> Dang! I'll have to wait a whole 5 hours do DL another one..
[04:33] <vtiger> abadtooth: Only one machine?
[04:33] <abadtooth> Oh well, I can see no further help from planet earth, I am cursed!
[04:33] <abadtooth> yes
[04:33] <vtiger> abadtooth: What speed connection/
[04:33] <abadtooth> a stupid dell dimension 3000
[04:33] <abadtooth> 50Kb/s
[04:33] <david___> well it cant be the gfx card if it works in windows.
[04:33] <david___> it must work..maybe his card isnt supported
[04:33] <abadtooth> it worked in mandriva fine!
[04:34] <abadtooth> Too bad I messed mandriva up trying to install beryl
[04:34] <david___> stick with mandriva until u can afford a decent card,
[04:34] <abadtooth> I have the best possible card for a standard PCI slot!
[04:34] <vtiger> Or for 5 hours to get Herd 5 :)
[04:35] <vtiger> Wheeeee PCI vid cards?
[04:35] <vtiger> ISA sound?
[04:35] <david___> well maybe its your motherboards pci not working with linux... try a cheap agp one
[04:35] <david___> i bet thatd work
[04:35] <abadtooth> Does it have beryl pre installed on it by the way?
[04:36] <vtiger> !beryl
[04:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:36] <abadtooth> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[04:37] <vtiger> Anyone know anythign about kstartupconfig ?
[04:37] <david___> can beryl run on dapper drake?
[04:37] <vtiger> Yup
[04:37] <david___> its only giving me info on the edgy release
[04:38] <abadtooth> Someone punch me for buying a dell!
[04:38] <david___> if only my arms were that long?
[04:39] <abadtooth> I was so looking forward to the ubuntu studio too!
[04:39] <david___> !ubuntu studio
[04:39] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[04:39] <vtiger> !dell
[04:39] <david___> wow...that looks pro...
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <david___> dell - crappy piece of kit..more info on the wiki :P
[04:40] <david___> jk
[04:40] <abadtooth> I feel like suicide!
[04:40] <vtiger> Hi manchicken
[04:40] <manchicken> howdy
[04:40] <vtiger> abadtooth: Drama Queen
[04:40] <abadtooth> Seriosly!
[04:41] <david___> can ubunut studio be ran on kubuntu?
[04:41] <david___> ubuntu*
[04:41] <vtiger> david___: short answer is yes
[04:41] <vtiger>  Long answer can be founf in #ubuntu-studio
[04:41] <abadtooth> I would think so being as Kubuntu is the same as ubuntu, just with the KDE desktop
[04:42] <abadtooth> But I'm stupid
[04:42] <david___> ok
[04:42] <david___> i knew that...it was the same
[04:42] <david___> but different menu and stuff
[04:42] <vtiger> abadtooth: Wait
[04:42] <chovy> system seems very sluggins on x64
[04:42] <ubuntu> spanish room
[04:42] <vtiger> can you get the Ubuntu Cd to boot?
[04:42] <draik> !scanner
[04:42] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[04:42] <chovy> mainly web pages take a few minutes to load.
[04:43] <ubuntu> !spanish
[04:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:43] <abadtooth> I have the Kubuntu CD, it's boots yes!
[04:43] <david___> nice
[04:44] <david___> now all you need is a valid ext3 partition i think and a linux-swap and you are away
[04:44] <abadtooth> but only to a stupid command line
[04:44] <david___> doesnt it ask which way you want to load?
[04:44] <compilerwriter> Now that I have ssh working with keys how can I require all ssh logins to utilize keys instead of passwords.
[04:44] <vtiger> abadtooth: and you don't know if it's a busybox command line?
[04:45] <abadtooth> How can I tell?
[04:45] <vtiger> If it's a full command line you can login here and we could probably help you fix it
[04:45] <vtiger>  abadtooth it will say busybox on it :)
[04:45] <vtiger> plus typing startx won't even try to work
[04:45] <abadtooth> yeah I can type commands and kinda of junk!
[04:46] <abadtooth> But nothing works
[04:47] <kristjans> why my 3d performance is pathetic compared to windows's?
[04:47] <vtiger> abadtooth: what do you mean nothign works?
[04:48] <vtiger> !doesn't work
[04:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:48] <abadtooth> install your video card drivers..
[04:48] <abadtooth> Startx just gives fatal error 104
[04:49] <compilerwriter> Now that I have ssh working with keys how do I have my machine require a key to do an rsh login?
[04:49] <mjunx> lol, nice one ubotu
[04:49] <kristjans> i think i've installed the drivers
[04:49] <kristjans> i have intel extreme 64 mb
[04:49] <abadtooth> hmm
[04:49] <vtiger> abadtooth: Oh Cool that's a full terminal :)
[04:50] <abadtooth> Might not be supported
[04:50] <vtiger> abadtooth: Do you have internet in it?
[04:50] <abadtooth> I have no clue!
[04:50] <vtiger> !intel
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <kristjans> my 10 years old computer had a better 3d performance in windows than my year-old laptop does  in kubuntu
[04:51] <vtiger> !irssi
[04:51] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[04:51] <vtiger> !info irssi
[04:51] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[04:51] <abadtooth>  kristjans: it has to be a video card- driver problem!
[04:51] <vtiger> abadtooth: Do you know IRC / commands?
[04:52] <abadtooth> nope
[04:52] <abadtooth> I'm new to irc
[04:52] <mjunx> I do!
[04:52] <Dr_willis> irssi has a very well done homepage with docs
[04:52] <vtiger> abadtooth: Want a crash course to help?
[04:52] <mjunx> type /help to get the irc server commands
[04:52] <vtiger> Dr_willis: He's going to be on command line
[04:53] <abadtooth> If it would help Kubuntu work, than yes I would love a crash course!
[04:53] <Dr_willis> install lynx, or links then. :)
[04:53] <mjunx> get links2
[04:54] <vtiger> Dr_willis: Live CD comes with w3m
[04:54] <vtiger> mjunx: No need
[04:54] <Dr_willis> i knew there was another. :)
[04:54] <vtiger> abadtooth: ok want to get a pen and pencil to write the steps down ?
[04:54] <abadtooth> sure
[04:55] <vtiger> abadtooth: tell me when you are ready
[04:55] <abadtooth> I'm ready
[04:56] <vtiger> Command one: sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:56] <vtiger> if for some reason it tells you to update you need a sudo apt-get update
[04:57] <vtiger> Command two: irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[04:57] <vtiger> command three: This will be inside of the irssi interface. /j #kubuntu
[04:57] <vtiger> At that point you can identify yourself
[04:58] <vtiger>  or change your name to abadtooth with command four: /nick abadtooth
[04:58] <abadtooth> ok
[04:58] <vtiger> abadtooth: If you have internet it should worj
[04:59] <vtiger> You are on dial up or Broadband?
[04:59] <abadtooth> So basicly I'll be talking to you guys with morse code
[04:59] <abadtooth> DSL, but more like dial up
[04:59] <lisapc> i installed Kubuntu with OEM as username.  can I delete that and change it?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> lisapc,  add a new user first. then you need to give that user   the sudo rights.
[05:00] <vtiger> Once it's coming in the network card you should be ok
[05:01] <lisapc> Dr_willis,  i typed: sudo oem-config-prepare
[05:01] <abadtooth> ok, so I'll go try this..
[05:01] <Dr_willis> lisapc,  cant say that ive EVER used that command befor.
[05:01] <lisapc> Dr_willis,  someone told me
[05:01] <abadtooth> be back in a bit
[05:01] <lisapc> so now it asks me when I reboot to create a new username
[05:01] <lisapc> and deletes the OEM
[05:01] <Dr_willis> lisapc,  never heard of it.. :)
[05:01] <Dr_willis> gee what happens i guess.
[05:01] <lisapc> Dr_willis,  we alllearn somethinf every day
[05:02] <Dr_willis> at least you dident make your first user named 'root' :)
[05:03] <lisapc> exit
[05:05] <david___> !mail
[05:05] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[05:06] <david___> !email
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Anyone can help with a chrooted audio?
[05:10] <Skuller> !audio | skuller
[05:11] <malph> what is the fan favorite vnc client for kubuntu
[05:12] <tarnold> evening all
[05:13] <june> !ati
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <malph> !vnc
[05:14] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:14] <K`zan> I seem to have lost my usb PTP camera, I keep getting: Could not claim the USB device, this just started today - anyone have any thoughts?  TIA!
[05:15] <ubuntu_>  wow
[05:15] <ubuntu_> this is abadtooth
[05:15] <K`zan> wb ubuntu_
[05:15] <K`zan> That sucks.
[05:15] <ubuntu_> I'm in the irssi thing
[05:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: type /nick abadtooth
[05:16] <abadtooth> okay, if you insist
[05:16] <K`zan> LOL
[05:16] <abadtooth> ok, this is cool. but what purpose does this serve?
[05:16] <abadtooth> I feel as if I'm using a version of linux made is 91..
[05:17] <K`zan> In case it helps, gtkam returns this:
[05:17] <K`zan> An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find USB device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30f0). Make sure this device is connected to the computer.
[05:17] <K`zan> Shows up in usbview....
[05:17] <Hasrat_USA> linux made in 91 must be fast
[05:17] <Hasrat_USA> today's ones are slow :P
[05:17] <K`zan> Hasrat_USA: True enough.
[05:17] <abadtooth> is vtiger here?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: PRESS Alt+Left to get a new command line Alt+Right to come back here
[05:18] <abadtooth> hes the one who had me connect to this IRC through a stinking command line..
[05:19] <K`zan> trying reinstall on gtkam and all the dependancies...
[05:20] <abadtooth> This little blinking underscore is soooo cool!
[05:20] <K`zan> Nope, something has to be hosed with usb somehow somewhere :-(
[05:21] <Tonren> Is there a KDE alternative to gparted?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> qtparted
[05:21] <abadtooth> DOS is fun
[05:21] <Tonren> Thanks
[05:21] <abadtooth> is vtiger here yet?
[05:22] <makuseru> how can i strip the audio off an AVI?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Looks like no
[05:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What's the issue?
[05:22] <abadtooth> I don't understand why he gave me instuctions on how to connect to this IRC through command line...
[05:23] <abadtooth> When I need help getting the xserver to start on this kubuntu
[05:23] <K`zan> [17180939.004000]  usb 4-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[05:23] <K`zan> [17180939.156000]  usb 4-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:23] <K`zan> damnifiknow...
[05:23] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What's the problem? I'm Guessing X failed?
[05:23] <Tonren> abadtooth: This way, you can chat on IRC without worrying about having to reconnect if X crashes
[05:23] <scotty|away> Is there any way to get the /me command to work in Kopete?
[05:23] <teufel> anybody know of a program like automatrix or easyubuntu that will work on kubuntu edgy
[05:23] <scotty|away> As in
[05:23] <draik> I'm thinking about getting a scanner
[05:23] <abadtooth> I pop the disk in, it boots to the menu thing I select install thorugh start and press enter
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Tonren: I'm guesing that X won't come up
[05:24] <draik> Does anyone have the HP Scanjet G3010 Photo Scanner
[05:24] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: live Cd?
[05:24] <draik> ?
[05:24] <K`zan> damn, I hate to have to do a windoz on this :-(.
[05:24] <abadtooth> It's the 6.10 version
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Do you have Linux installed?
[05:24] <Tonren> Oh dear... qtparted appears to be freezing
[05:24] <abadtooth> the only thing that loads after I press enter is a blasted command line!
[05:25] <abadtooth> no!
[05:25] <abadtooth> I did, but I messed it up (it was mandriva)
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Ah. So we are trying to get this installed. Hmm
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Do you have an alternate CD ?
[05:25] <Tonren> This might be the lamest thing in history
[05:25] <abadtooth> Or at least for the xserver to start
[05:25] <darkdead> ok i am asking again anyones tested kubunttu any kind of version on a i965p (intel core duo E6400)motherboard?
[05:25] <abadtooth> no
[05:26] <abadtooth> Why would I need one of those?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Do you have a terminal when you press Alt+Right ?
[05:26] <abadtooth> yes
[05:26] <draik> Does anyone here recommend a good scanner? I am leaning more towards HP
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Ok there type grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me what it says
[05:27] <Krishean> ok it was the hardware after all
[05:27] <darkdead> hp sucks baddddd
[05:27] <Krishean> wierd tho
[05:27] <abadtooth> ok
[05:27] <Krishean> it only happened once and awhile
[05:27] <darkdead> i have 5 multi funcion and all broken in lees 2 years
[05:27] <Krishean> or when i did certain things
[05:27] <Gh0st75> i used to use a canon scanner for comics, was pretty good
[05:28] <darkdead> and all are 350 e multi printers
[05:28] <draik> I currently have a Cannon, but it's old and no drivers available
[05:28] <darkdead> over 400$ evry ones
[05:29] <darkdead> now whit a samsumg led's sacner and i loving it bad
[05:29] <abadtooth> it says grepp: command not found
[05:29] <Gh0st75> i'd like to get a new scanner with a small form factor, would be nice to scan my folks old photo albums to put in the fire safe
[05:29] <draik> I have an HP laptop (running Kubuntu Edgy) and an HP Printer. No issues
[05:29] <darkdead> i means de scaner
[05:29] <abadtooth> lucky you] 
[05:29] <darkdead> no the printer part
[05:30] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: No two pp
[05:30] <abadtooth> I did use 2 p's
[05:31] <abadtooth> Or do you mean no p's?
[05:31] <abadtooth> I typed what you said
[05:31] <DaSkreech> one p
[05:31] <abadtooth> ok
[05:31] <darkdead> just get a led's scaner bubs scaner always fails fast
[05:31] <K`zan> Ah, found the problem!  I am apparently not able to use USB, I can run gtkam as root.  No group usb, shouldn't there be one?
[05:31] <teufel> is there an easy update program like automatix for kubuntu edgy
[05:31] <draik> darkdead: What do you recommend? Brand/model?
[05:32] <teufel> i cannot find anything that works
[05:32] <abadtooth> just gives wierd stuff
[05:32] <abadtooth> like (WW)Warnign
[05:32] <darkdead> no just any ones whit led's lighting
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> umm think I know whats wrong with realtek hd cards
[05:33] <abadtooth> ,(EE)Error
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> the mixer isnt entirely supported
[05:33] <flaccid> K`zan: no usb group in kubuntu. gtkam is a gnome/gtk app..
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> and explans why I can get audio
[05:33] <abadtooth> , (NI) Not Implemented
[05:33] <K`zan> flaccid: THis just quit working today, I can run as root but not as myself now.
[05:34] <darkdead> they dont need burn the lighting for start scaning
[05:34] <K`zan> How do I allow me to use usb stuff ?
[05:34] <Skuller> DaSkreech: why isnt it possible for abadtooth to reconfigure the X using the reconfigure command?
[05:34] <K`zan> no gtk group either :)
[05:34] <makuseru> how can i strip the audio off an AVI?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What did you type in?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> makuseru: try cinelerra
[05:35] <abadtooth> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Might be possible I still don't know why it's failing
[05:35] <firemonkeyballz> if u want to strip audio... you can just reencode it with out the audio
[05:35] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: And it returned NI not Implemented?
[05:36] <abadtooth> It has several messages up, how do I tell which is the one?
[05:38] <draik> anyone here know how I can have Kubuntu Edgy read from the CanoScan D646U Scanner?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Anyone that says EE at the start
[05:39] <makuseru> does anyone know the max fle size on ext3 partitions?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> very big. :)
[05:39] <makuseru> general area number?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> 	16GiB  2TiB
[05:40] <Dr_willis> google.com to the answer..
[05:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> well the wiki site.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:42] <abadtooth> ok this is what it says, (WW) Warning, (EE) Error, (NI) Not Implemented, (??) Unkown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) No devices detected.
[05:42] <orange_> can someone help me setup samba?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> For a good samba background Install 'sudo apt-get install  samba-doc '  and read the Books that wil/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba " and " /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/ " docs WELL worth reading. l be in ..   "
[05:42] <flaccid> orange_: howto is on the samba.org
[05:42] <Dr_willis> or in the repos. :)
[05:42] <flaccid> its the same Dr ?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> 'using samba ' is a very well done book its in the samba-doc package
[05:42] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[05:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <Dr_willis> and a quickstrt guide as well.
[05:43] <DaSkreech> !X11
[05:43] <flaccid> its a book Dr ?
[05:43] <orange_> flaccid: I read those howto -its not really helpful on the smb.conf part - it just says to edit the smb.conf
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Yep - the Orieally book. in html form. (older version however)
[05:43] <abadtooth> did you get that daskreech?
[05:43] <flaccid> orange_: maybe you are reading the wrong thing
[05:43] <flaccid> Dr_willis: dang i didn't realise that
[05:43] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  :)
[05:43] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: in the terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <abadtooth> ok, one sec
[05:44] <Dr_willis> yep.. i need to track down a newer version of the book someday.. i dont know diddel about the advanced samba features
[05:44] <flaccid> samba can be a pain in mixed environments
[05:44] <Dr_willis> err. the new features
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Pretty much say yes to everything but let me know if it gets your video card wrong
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Ive fought with samba enogh to get it doing what i need. :)
[05:44] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ^^^
[05:44] <flaccid> well the howtos on samba.org or more than suffice for most people's needs
[05:44] <Dr_willis> under ubuntu/kubuntu, you need to install the samba package, then edit the samba.conf file to enable the home shares. THEN use 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' for the linux users to let them get TO their home shares.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> then restart the samba service.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I tend to just share the 'home' dirs
[05:45] <flaccid> the kcontrol admin snap in thing is really good if you ask me
[05:46] <Dr_willis> there may be a samba config tool in the   settings->internet-network->samba area also.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <K`zan> Anyone know what one does about this: An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'
[05:46] <Dr_willis> but i rarely use it
[05:46] <flaccid> that one sux compared to the standard kcontrol one imo
[05:46] <abadtooth> says I must run as root..
[05:46] <DaSkreech> did you type sudo before it?
[05:46] <abadtooth> nope, I'll do that
[05:46] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: tell me if it detects your video card incorrectly
[05:48] <orange_> I edit'd /etc/services "swat   901/tcp"   then I edited xinetd.conf to enable swat - restarted xinetd and when i do netstat -lt   -- it doesnt even show swat listening on the port
[05:48] <orange_> am i suppose to enable it in the smb.conf
[05:48] <flaccid> no swat is independent
[05:48] <orange_> is samba suppose to be running or off or what
[05:48] <abadtooth> I don't see nvidia in the drivers list anywhere, the closest thing is nv
[05:48] <flaccid> i don't think it needs to be running
[05:48] <Skuller> how do i update my clock's time from a time server?
[05:49] <flaccid> !ntp
[05:49] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB
[05:49] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: I think that's cool
[05:49] <abadtooth> the NV you mean?
[05:49] <orange_> will init.d and xinetd mess with eachother - should i uninstall one
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:49] <abadtooth> ok
[05:49] <|Jason8|> hey guys, what's the command to install a .deb file from a source on the web?
[05:50] <orange_> flaccid:  will init.d and xinetd mess with eachother - should i uninstall one
[05:50] <flaccid> |Jason8|: d/l it first then use sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.rpm
[05:50] <flaccid> orange_: i don't think so
[05:50] <|Jason8|> flaccid, what's the command to save it?
[05:50] <flaccid> ps aux | grep swat returns what, orange_?
[05:50] <abadtooth> what on earth would I put for my video card bus identfier?
[05:51] <flaccid> |Jason8|: to d/l by terminal use wget http://siteformy/package.deb
[05:51] <orange_> root      4946  0.0  0.0   2796   752 pts/1    S+   23:50   0:00 grep swat
[05:51] <|Jason8|> thanks :)
[05:51] <flaccid> orange_: i can't remember swat on ubuntu. its a service which has a /etc/init.d script?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: It doesn't offer a suggestion for you?
[05:51] <abadtooth> And it was showing my onboard graphics chip, I haven't seen my nvida card anywhere...
[05:52] <orange_> swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/tcpd \ /usr/sbin/swat
[05:52] <abadtooth> well it had something there already
[05:52] <orange_> its written in inetd.conf in /etc/
[05:52] <Skuller> flaccid: ok i did sudo apt-get install ntp
[05:52] <flaccid> orange_: let me remote login to my kubuntu desktop at work 1 sec
[05:52] <Skuller> now what?
[05:53] <orange_> kk
[05:53] <flaccid> !ntpd
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <flaccid> oops
[05:53] <flaccid> sould be on forums somewhere
[05:53] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Did you disable your onboard i the bios?
[05:53] <flaccid> Skuller: try this first http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-928.html
[05:54] <Skuller> k
[05:54] <Skuller> flaccid: i also did sudo apt-get install ntp-doc
[05:55] <abadtooth> My bios is a dell. it doesn't give the option!
[05:56] <flaccid> Skuller: i'm looking
[05:56] <albert> hi, which is the command to show my network-ip?
[05:57] <flaccid> albert: ifconfig
[05:57] <albert> thanks
[05:57] <flaccid> Skuller: doesn't seem to be an ubuntu forum or anything. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/synchronize-the-system-clock-to-network-time-protocol-ntp-under-fedora-or-red-hat-linux.html that sums it up
[05:57] <flaccid> except you install ntp-server package and not ntpd
[05:57] <flaccid> iirc
[05:58] <ubuntu> is there anyone patient that would help a non-english speaking and non-linux usera with a linux problem
[05:59] <flaccid> ubuntu depends on the problem
[05:59] <abadtooth> well the cofig craps out when chosing colout depth
[05:59] <ubuntu> ok, ill try to explain
[06:00] <Skuller> flaccid: thanx...got it done....
[06:00] <orange_> flaccid: up and running?
[06:00] <flaccid> Skuller: yeah i think ntp-server already had the required stuff for update on install yeah. worked for you?
[06:01] <flaccid> orange_: 1 sec
[06:01] <Skuller> i did apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[06:02] <Skuller> flaccid: i did apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[06:02] <flaccid> ah yeah
[06:02] <flaccid> i think if you install the server it will update and exit
[06:02] <flaccid> but you don't need it
[06:02] <flaccid> sweet
[06:02] <Skuller> flaccid: yea dunno abt that...thanx
[06:02] <flaccid> orange_: this may help you out. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58434&highlight=swat
[06:03] <ubuntu> this will show my problem i think
[06:03] <ubuntu> http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3471/snapshot1ml3.png
[06:03] <flaccid> Skuller: thats cool. i did it and it worked, so just 1 command not too bad.
[06:03] <albert> how to i access the interface to costumize samba? (it was something like kcenter...)
[06:03] <orange_> ive read every thread in ubuntuforum.org / kubuntuforums.org
[06:03] <flaccid> albert: its in kcontrol
[06:03] <orange_> i tried all those solutions and guides
[06:03] <albert> you're my hero
[06:03] <flaccid> orange_: including the one i pasted ?
[06:03] <orange_> yep
[06:03] <ubuntu> the 80 GB disk has only documents and its trying to boot from there
[06:04] <orange_> i was looking at that one before i got on irc
[06:04] <abadtooth> Ok, well I think it's time to just give up
[06:04] <orange_> since swat is running in my process list but not listening in netstat -lt
[06:04] <flaccid> orange_: interesting
[06:04] <orange_> what can mess it between
[06:04] <flaccid> i'm trying it now
[06:05] <orange_> flaccid:  /etc/services - had swat already enabled for 901/tcp
[06:05] <flaccid> it will work without that
[06:05] <flaccid> thats just known ports
[06:06] <orange_> flaccid: I just have 1 theory - does swat create a folder inside /etc/init.d/swat
[06:06] <flaccid> i have the same issue as you organge
[06:06] <flaccid> don't know
[06:06] <orange_> flaccid:  folder at*
[06:06] <flaccid> this is interesting
[06:07] <flaccid> i guess just another broken ubuntu package like a lot of them..
[06:07] <Hasrat_USA> should i change the clock tonight at 2 am?
[06:08] <orange_> flaccid: Spent over 8 hours on swat - driving me crazy -- might just be better to suck it up and edit smb.conf manually
[06:08] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What do you mean it craps out?
[06:09] <flaccid> orange_: here is the solution: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/87
[06:09] <Dr_willis> orange_,  gesh.. ya could of read that using samba book about 3 times.. in that time
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and learned whats going on. :)
[06:09] <flaccid> that worked for me and yes it would help if ubuntu could package things correctly so this shit doesn't happen...
[06:09] <orange_> flaccid: does kubuntu come with a firewall enabled - blocking ports?
[06:09] <flaccid> orange_: nope
[06:09] <flaccid> thats not the problem
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i dont think swat is a reccomended way to configure samba much these days
[06:09] <flaccid> nah swat is good and its fine
[06:09] <Dr_willis> I dont see any swat file in the init.d dir either
[06:10] <flaccid> the link i pasted installs what is not dependent that should be for package swat
[06:10] <orange_> flaccid: ill give that link a read - sec
[06:10] <flaccid> it works for me
[06:10] <flaccid> and that was after a apt-get install swat
[06:11] <Dr_willis> what is the port# for swat anyway
[06:11] <flaccid> port# ?
[06:11] <flaccid> oh
[06:11] <flaccid> 901
[06:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> hey, sweet
[06:11] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: PIng
[06:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sorry bout earlier... I got called away to do some chores
[06:11] <Dr_willis> its not showing up here on 901.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> perhapos it needs to be ebealbed in the samba.conf
[06:12] <flaccid> no its independeant Dr
[06:12] <flaccid> is it running ?
[06:12] <orange_> is it /etc/init.d restart   ?
[06:13] <flaccid> i ran it manually as they havnt even created a service script
[06:13] <flaccid> as in /usr/sbin/swat  then backgroudned it
[06:13] <Dr_willis> i see no init.d/swat service
[06:13] <Dr_willis> yea.. i noticed that flaccid   odd.
[06:13] <flaccid> yeah no init.d script for swat
[06:13] <abadtooth> Daskreech I mean is just gives an error and goes to the command line
[06:13] <flaccid> yeah it would be nice if they did make one
[06:13] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What error?
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> !alsa
[06:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://localhost:901   should go to swat page.. but it aint doing it.. or am i confused.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i ran 'swat' :)
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> dr whwn should i change my pc clock?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> crimsun: ping
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Hasrat_USA,  it should change automaticially
[06:17] <crimsun> DaSkreech: describe your host and chroot configurations.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I think my sound may be not working in the non chroot
[06:17] <unix_infidel> anyone here running feisty alphas?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> crimsun: host is ubuntu chroot is kubuntu
[06:17] <abadtooth> xserver-xorgpostin
[06:17] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  it keeps wanting to upgrade to feisty.. but it aint doing it.. :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Hmm
[06:17] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: i'm still on dapper.
[06:17] <unix_infidel> lol
[06:18] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ok can you do a less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look under devices and tell me if it looks alright
[06:18] <abadtooth> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwiting possibly-customized configuration file; backup in..yayaya
[06:18] <Hasrat_USA> dr i'm not on windows
[06:18] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I did a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp on both
[06:18] <Hasrat_USA> i'm running edgy
[06:19] <DaSkreech> It kinda crackles on the host does nothing for the chroot
[06:19] <crimsun> DaSkreech: ``dpkg --print-architecture'' in both is important
[06:19] <unix_infidel> i'm hoping the new fiesty will be a MUCh better transition to new init system they are using.
[06:19] <Hasrat_USA> i cant go back to win for religious reasons
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> ooh boy...
[06:19] <unix_infidel> if it isnt, i'm switching back to debian.
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> ummm midi isnt enabled
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[06:20] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Identical
[06:20] <DaSkreech> i386
[06:21] <crimsun> DaSkreech: does audio work properly on the host?
[06:21] <unix_infidel> many people had problems with edgy and i couldnt bring myself to pull the trigger.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I.. don't know really
[06:21] <crimsun> DaSkreech: ...
[06:21] <DaSkreech> I don't think it does now
[06:21] <DaSkreech> I don't know how to play things in cli in ubuntu
[06:21] <crimsun> wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:21] <spitwise>  ya i downgraded back to dapper :/
[06:21] <crimsun> I'm leaving work; I'll be back in 20 minutes.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Groovy
[06:22] <flaccid> sorry im afk atm bbs
[06:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: it crashes and over writes the file?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: try startx
[06:23] <abadtooth> I get a fatal error
[06:23] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:23] <DaSkreech> do a less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:24] <DaSkreech> look at the devices section
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  tell me if it looks valid
[06:24] <abadtooth> type less /ect/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> think I may have a solution alc883
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> buh its in slackware
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> grr
[06:25] <abadtooth> I type that in, but it does ntoing
[06:25] <abadtooth> says no such file or dir
[06:27] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: etc
[06:27] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: tab is your friend
[06:27] <makuseru> abadtooth: you ping me?
[06:28] <abadtooth> whats tab do?
[06:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sigh
[06:28] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how can I get rid of grub?
[06:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> If it's not one thing, it's another
[06:29] <Cobra_Bubbles> Now, I have no sound
[06:29] <|Jason8|> I want to revert back to the standard Windows bootloader and drop grub.
[06:29] <|Jason8|> Then I can work from there.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> !tab
[06:29] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:30] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: oh I see
[06:30] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: You don't want to use LInux anymore?
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:~$ modprobe snd-alc883
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> FATAL: Module snd_alc883 not found.
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> well thats confusing
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> how do I get sound
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> if i have sound
[06:31] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, I love linux, but grub's giving me problems.  so I want to start at Ground Zero
[06:32] <|Jason8|> maybe I can fix this stuff then
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !lilo
[06:32] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[06:32] <abadtooth> |Jason8|: have you used lilo?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> What kind of problems?
[06:32] <makuseru> |Jason8|: you can download the super grub disk
[06:32] <|Jason8|> I keep getting error 15
[06:32] <|Jason8|> kernel not installed or something
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> lilo is old
[06:32] <|Jason8|> totally renders that computer useless.
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> verry olllld
[06:33] <makuseru> |Jason8|: you can download the super grub disk
[06:33] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: can you get it to boot?
[06:33] <|Jason8|> super grub disk, eh?
[06:33] <makuseru> !grub
[06:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:33] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, no.  The menu doesn't even come up
[06:33] <makuseru> its in the first link there
[06:33] <makuseru> itll fix grub, just about what ever the problem is
[06:34] <abadtooth> does beryl come with ubuntu-Kubuntu?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: So really you want to fix grub
[06:34] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: no
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !beryl
[06:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> hey guys i have just found out a trick in Beryl that can save you your job at workplace !! :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: have you done the less command yet?
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> for example you're watching pron. now if your boss comes near you, all you gotta do is press the right mouse button and then roll the mouse wheel down and everything on the screen will simply vanish :)
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> oll the mouse wheel up while pressing the right mouse button to restore everything :)
[06:34] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes
[06:34] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  it's all messed up
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_USA: I have a better idea. Do work and get a raise so you can do that at home :)
[06:35] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, yeah.  it'd be nice to make that computer boot again.
[06:35] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Define messed up
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> screech is it just me or does kopete not support aim
[06:35] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  my nvidia card is nowhere to be seen..
[06:35] <Hasrat_USA> well daskreech the method applies at home too if you have parents sisters siblings etc lurking around :)
[06:36] <firemonkeyballz> hasart you could just back up everything in a tarball
[06:36] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Right. What about the other one?
[06:36] <abadtooth> intel piece of just
[06:36] <abadtooth> junk*
[06:37] <Hasrat_USA> omg what do you mean lol fire
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_USA: Heh at home you should be proud of whatever you do :)
[06:37] <firemonkeyballz> case the inocent change things
[06:37] <|Jason8|> makuseru, I've tried that.  When I type "find /boot/grub/stage1", it replies with an error 15.  No device there or something like that
[06:37] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What happens if you plug the video card onto the Intel port?
[06:37] <|Jason8|> FIle not found?
[06:38] <Hasrat_USA> fire seriously, in beryl you press the right button of yar mouse and roll the wheel down and everything vanishes magically. u won't believe your eyes
[06:38] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  how would I go about doing that? the intel one is soldered to the MOBO
[06:38] <aj_> wow herd 5 is pretty buggy
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> well im not there yet
[06:38] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Whooops i mean the monitor
[06:38] <Hasrat_USA> fire you would be there eventually :P
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> and I just know  you can terminate the kernal easily
[06:39] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: oh that makes sense
[06:39] <orange_> if i created a swat file inside /etc/xinetd.d using nano -- do i need to add special flags using chmod or such?
[06:39] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> aj_: point that out in #kubuntu-devel
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> fire the playboy mansion wasn't built in a day you know :)
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> ture
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[06:39] <warewolf_> Anyone able to help me trace what is causing my system to freeze?
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> i shoulda said Rome
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> im just happy that I have a linux distro thats close enough to work
[06:39] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: Latent microsoftisms
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> stable
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> whatcha got fire?
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and is recoverable
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> 6.06
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> bs
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> havent had any problems yet
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> can't ya download edgy?
[06:40] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: That doesn't help =P It seems to start after I've had one of the 'buntu's on my system after a few days..
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> oh ok
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> just fixing the ones I kno
[06:40] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: What's it doing?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> makuseru: are you helping |Jason8| ?
[06:41] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: And it seems to only happen when I have both wireless and Beryl running.. but not one or the other.. everything but the mouse will lock, can't switch to any terminals, power down..
[06:42] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: Hmm ask in #ubuntu-effects if anyone knows what's going on
[06:42] <|Jason8|> lol
[06:42] <makuseru> DaSkreech: well he said he tried my way and got an error
[06:42] <firemonkeyballz> edgy wont be non alpha till april
[06:42] <makuseru> and thats all i got
[06:42] <DaSkreech> makuseru: That's not answering my question :)
[06:42] <makuseru> haha, well i guess not since thats all i had
[06:42] <scotty> abadtooth: ?
[06:42] <|Jason8|> Hrm.
[06:42] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: doesn't do anything... no output
[06:43] <abadtooth> scotty: yeah?
[06:43] <scotty> [23:26:43]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-PING request from abadtooth to channel #kubuntu, sending answer.
[06:43] <|Jason8|> hrm
[06:43] <|Jason8|> I think I figured out a problem
[06:43] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ok hold on
[06:43] <|Jason8|> my swap file is on the drive I want to format.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !video
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:43] <firemonkeyballz> yeSSS found drivers!!!
[06:43] <|Jason8|> I only have 384 MB of RAM
[06:43] <firemonkeyballz> weee
[06:43] <|Jason8|> so it spills over into the swapfile
[06:44] <scotty> brb
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> this guy has a acer 5051 and has drivers
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Right that's what the swap file is for
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> !!!
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> buh their analog drivers
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> dang it
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> all well
[06:44] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, but then the installation modifies that hard drive, including the partiton.
[06:44] <|Jason8|> so it runs out of memory.
[06:45] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: *blinks* Oh wait this is live CD?
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Is there a way I can partition first and install later?
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Yes, LiveCD
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Trying to install
[06:45] <makuseru> qt or g parted
[06:45] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[06:45] <Midspeed> hi everybody
[06:46] <Midspeed> i am using kubuntu 6.10 dapper drake
[06:46] <Midspeed> and i would like to upgrade to the latest version of kubuntu, where can i get the latest repository???
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[06:47] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:47] <chavo> Midspeed, well dapper drake is 6.06
[06:47] <chavo> 6.10 is edgy
[06:47] <Hasrat_USA> wait until april 7th
[06:47] <spitwise> edgy upgrade slightly sketchy
[06:47] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: I have to go :(
[06:47] <Midspeed> oh sorry i have edgy :)
[06:47] <spitwise> ive read the install is just grand though
[06:47] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ask someone how to make dpkg-reconfigure use a specific video card
[06:48] <chavo> the next upgrade is feisty which is still not even beta yet
[06:48] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: thats ok, I don't care to ever try kubuntu ever again anyways
[06:48] <flaccid> lol
[06:48] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: alright :) I don't know if it's the edgy CD anymore. I'll look into it
[06:48] <warewolf__> DaSkreech: Are there any logs I can check to maybe get a clue whats going on? It's been years since I've actively used linux..
[06:48] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: You have mandriva Cds?
[06:48] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes
[06:49] <DaSkreech> warewolf__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:49] <orange_> flaccid: that package didnt fix it ;(
[06:49] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: they work?
[06:49] <abadtooth> da they work fine
[06:49] <Midspeed> can somebody show me where to find the latest kubuntus repository list
[06:49] <flaccid> orange_: did you run the binary manually?
[06:49] <abadtooth> I want beryl though
[06:49] <orange_> how
[06:49] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Ok. use that then. I'll try and find out if the Feisty CDs will pick up the right Video card maybe in the future we can entice you back again :)
[06:49] <chavo> Midspeed, the upgrade to feisty is not recommended
[06:50] <orange_>  flaccid /usr/sbin/swat
[06:50] <flaccid> um /usr/sbin/swat
[06:50] <flaccid> yes
[06:50] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: possibly
[06:50] <Midspeed> oh ok, thanks chavo
[06:50] <orange_> it jus stalls the terminal
[06:50] <orange_> ill do it again
[06:50] <flaccid> orange_: that means its running
[06:50] <Midspeed> yeah thats what happend when i tried by doing it through adept
[06:50] <flaccid> ctrl + z to background it
[06:50] <flaccid> then check ps aux and netstat
[06:50] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Sorry about that
[06:51] <chavo> Midspeed, I run feisty here but the upgrade is a little rocky at the moment
[06:51] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: it's ok
[06:51] <Midspeed> ok
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Dell sucks yes yes I know
[06:51] <Midspeed> i will just wait until its more stable
[06:51] <flaccid> i don't think ubuntu will ever be stable
[06:51] <orange_> flaccid: netstat -lt shows nothing for port 901 or swat
[06:51] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes they do!
[06:51] <chavo> only a couple more weeks till final
[06:51] <flaccid> orange_: is swat running in ps aux ?
[06:52] <abadtooth> I hope goobuntu is better...
[06:53] <abadtooth> Google will pawn micro$oft!!!
[06:53] <orange_> flaccid: whats the full cmd with | grep
[06:53] <flaccid> ps aux | grep swat
[06:53] <flaccid> although mind you mine seemed to be enventually absorbed by xinetd
[06:53] <abadtooth> Anyways I've just wasted 5 hours of my life trying to install kubuntu
[06:53] <abadtooth> cya all later
[06:53] <flaccid> abadtooth: tahts pretty normal
[06:53] <flaccid> cya
[06:54] <|Jason8|> I clicked on a drive to partition and it gave me an error "The information sector has the wrong signature" and now qtparted is hanging.
[06:54] <orange_> root      4976  0.0  0.0   8088  2016 pts/0    S+   00:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/swat
[06:54] <orange_> root      5005  0.0  0.0   2800   768 pts/1    S+   00:53   0:00 grep swat
[06:54] <flaccid> can you access it localhost in web browser?
[06:54] <flaccid> or do a lynx http://locahost:901/
[06:55] <flaccid> or do a lynx http://localhost:901/
[06:55] <orange_> k
[06:55] <orange_> lynx is a cmd or just slang?
[06:56] <flaccid> its a cmd
[06:56] <flaccid> but you need it installed
[06:56] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install lynx
[06:56] <flaccid> otherwise try web browser in X on the same machine running swat
[06:56] <orange_> tried firefox / kde browser
[06:57] <orange_> something interesting with lynx
[06:57] <Skuller> !lynx | Skuller
[06:58] <orange_> lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost:901/
[06:58] <flaccid> you dont get tcp        0      0 *:swat                  *:*                     LISTEN     - in netstat -tap ?
[06:58] <orange_> nope
[06:58] <flaccid> ah well
[06:58] <flaccid> the extra steps in that site worked for me
[06:59] <orange_> flaccid: dont give up :(
[06:59] <flaccid> i don't know why it doesn't work for you
[06:59] <flaccid> i give up because ubuntu is shit. they can't package something to save their lives
[07:00] <flaccid> all i can suggest is killing swat
[07:00] <flaccid> and running it agin for it was run before you did the extra steps in that page i pasted
[07:00] <orange_> something changed
[07:01] <orange_> the shell i ran the cmd /usr/sbin/swat  -- displayed this and stopped stalling
[07:01] <orange_> Alarm clock
[07:01] <flaccid> i got that too
[07:02] <flaccid> wtf that was i dunno
[07:02] <orange_> can u show me ur xinetd.conf and inetd.conf files
[07:02] <flaccid> no i havnt touched them
[07:03] <flaccid> i run swat without xinetd
[07:03] <orange_> i have - so i want to try the original
[07:03] <orange_> or see the differences
[07:03] <orange_> i gonna uninstall xinetd as i dont really need it
[07:04] <warewolf__> Can I comment the WACOM stuff out of my x.org?
[07:04] <teufel> Hello is there anybody here willing to help me set up kubuntu for multimedia
[07:04] <teufel> i can play any .avi files
[07:04] <teufel> sorry cant
[07:04] <teufel> i cant play any .avi files
[07:04] <flaccid> orange_: you don't want to do that. it serves a lot of stuff...
[07:04] <|Jason8|> install that one repository thing.
[07:05] <flaccid> warewolf__: yes
[07:05] <teufel> i did
[07:05] <orange_> i jus installed it for swat
[07:05] <|Jason8|> multiverse or universe or whatever
[07:05] <orange_> i was originally on inetd
[07:05] <flaccid> !multimedia ? teufel
[07:05] <teufel> ok how do i enable universe and multiverse
[07:05] <flaccid> !multimedia  > teufel
[07:05] <flaccid> !repos > teufel
[07:06] <warewolf__> flaccid: Can I just comment the lines from "server layout" to kill them all?
[07:06] <flaccid> !baddevice
[07:06] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:06] <flaccid> read that warewolf__
[07:06] <warewolf__> flaccid: Thanks!
[07:07] <flaccid> np
[07:07] <orange_> flaccid: I just want to try this last theory out - let me match ur settings in inetd.conf
[07:07] <flaccid> no
[07:07] <orange_> ok
[07:07] <flaccid> you don't understand. it has nothing to do with inetd.conf
[07:08] <flaccid> the only thing you should have in inetd.conf is
[07:08] <flaccid> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:09] <flaccid> except the header comment..
[07:09] <flaccid> maybe you need to run it under root i dunno
[07:09] <orange_> run what under root?
[07:09] <flaccid> 1sec
[07:09] <orange_> i did the lynx cmd on root shell
[07:11] <flaccid> orange_: is that line in your inetd.conf?
[07:11] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[07:12] <flaccid> orange_: try this: killall swat;  sudo killall swat; /etc/init.d/inetd restart; lynx http://localhost:901
[07:12] <flaccid> let me know what lynx says
[07:14] <orange__> sry about that -- power just went out -- freaky stuff maybe dlst relate
[07:15] <flaccid> [2007-03-11 17:12]  <flaccid> orange_: try this: killall swat;  sudo killall swat; /etc/init.d/inetd restart; lynx http://localhost:901
[07:15] <flaccid> [2007-03-11 17:12]  <flaccid> let me know what lynx says
[07:15] <flaccid> and is
[07:15] <flaccid>  swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:15] <flaccid> in your inetd.conf ?
[07:15] <orange__> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:15] <orange__> i have 2 lines
[07:16] <flaccid> should ony need be one of thos elines
[07:16] <orange__> netbios-ssn     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/smbd
[07:16] <flaccid> thats fine
[07:16] <flaccid> do my command and advise
[07:16] <orange__> kk
[07:18] <orange__> ok did the cmds
[07:18] <orange__> no process to kill for the first 2
[07:18] <orange__> and when restarting inetd
[07:18] <orange__> lynx no good
[07:19] <orange__> so process isnt running
[07:19] <flaccid> wtf does does lynx no good mean?
[07:19] <|Jason8|> I am so confused... under the Ubuntu LiveCD, only 100 MB of memory is used, with kubuntu LiveCD, over 360 MB is used.  Does KDE just take up that much more memory?
[07:19] <orange__> Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
[07:20] <flaccid> orange_ i don't know what your problem is then
[07:20] <orange__> lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost:901/
[07:20] <flaccid> did you try another browser?
[07:20] <orange__> even after restarting inetd - i try killall swap
[07:20] <flaccid> try one now..
[07:20] <orange__> says no process found
[07:20] <orange__> swat*
[07:20] <flaccid> orange_thats becuase it runs under inetd
[07:20] <flaccid> so it won't return anything if its run under a parent process like inetd
[07:21] <flaccid> inet is the internet super server
[07:22] <orange__> how can i check if inetd is running
[07:25] <aj_> can linux be smart enough to know daylight savings?
[07:26] <robotgeek> aj_: it does
[07:26] <aj_> so does it know the new time?
[07:26] <aj_> like tonight its supposed to do it...2 weeks earlier than normal
[07:26] <robotgeek> aj_: http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/is-your-linuxunix-system-ready-for-daylight-savings-time/
[07:27] <flaccid> orange__:  ps aux | grep inetd
[07:28] <orange__> flaccid: omg clap the hands
[07:28] <aj_> oh cool
[07:28] <aj_> that was a cool link thanks
[07:28] <orange__> flaccid: netstat -lt shows tcp        0      0 *:swat                  *:*                     LISTEN
[07:28] <orange__> improvement
[07:29] <flaccid> orange__: you should be ok now in theory
[07:29] <orange__> YES!
[07:29] <flaccid> it works?
[07:30] <orange__> flaccid: yep
[07:30] <flaccid> cool
[07:30] <orange__> asks for login and accepts them and its not in demo mode
[07:30] <orange__> like most ppl complain in forums
[07:30] <flaccid> now you have to verify that inetd starts it correcty on boot
[07:30] <orange__> look what i did
[07:30] <orange__> i used adept to remove xinetd / netkit-inetd
[07:30] <orange__> and install inetd
[07:31] <flaccid> that didn't necessarily fix it...
[07:31] <orange__> it did
[07:31] <Pollyo> Does resizing a Windows XP partition work or is it something experimental?
[07:31] <orange__> then
[07:31] <flaccid> prove it...
[07:31] <orange__> i installed netkit-inetd and removed inetd
[07:31] <teufel> yo when i try to install vlc or mplayer it says "break install" the errors
[07:31] <orange__> then i tried netstat -lt and a miracled happened
[07:31] <flaccid> netkit-inetd is what you need
[07:31] <flaccid> that doesn't prove anything orange__...
[07:32] <orange__> it proves that xinetd messed up inetd
[07:32] <flaccid> how so
[07:32] <orange__> not allowing netkit to fix inetd
[07:32] <flaccid> it proves nothing...
[07:32] <flaccid> nope
[07:32] <flaccid> its a package, not a binary :)
[07:32] <flaccid> who cares how it was fixed. at the end of the day, ubuntu didnt package it correctly...
[07:32] <Krishean> is it possible to move an installation of kubuntu from one computer to another (different hardware)?
[07:32] <|Jason8|> Okay
[07:33] <flaccid> Krishean: yes
[07:33] <Krishean> how would i go about doing that?
[07:33] <flaccid> !backup
[07:33] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:33] <flaccid> !cloning
[07:33] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[07:33] <teufel> using adept to install it says break install
[07:33] <flaccid> that should help.. depends on if you want an image or not
[07:34] <Krishean> i don't care what it does as long as i have all the same stuff
[07:34] <flaccid> ok
[07:34] <warewolf_> OK, it just locked on my again, but I was able to get into a terminal to recover without restarting...
[07:34] <|Jason8|> Xorg is using 290 megs of RAM with the liveCD.
[07:34] <Krishean> thank you, i'll try this out later
[07:34] <|Jason8|> ...is that normal?
[07:35] <Pollyo> Has anyone had success in resizing a NTFS partition?
[07:36] <orange__> flaccid: TY for the help... i feel like posting something about removing all super servers then installing netkit to fix it - but u telling me that idea is wrong -- anyway - thanks alot for sticking thru it
[07:36] <flaccid> orange__: npz
[07:36] <flaccid> orange__: yeah you should never have to uninstall inetd or xinetd, the package maintainer is the problem here
[07:37] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how do I configure xserver?
[07:37] <|Jason8|> it's using 290 megs of RAM right now, and I can't install kubuntu with it using that much
[07:37] <warewolf_> Should there be like 6 copies of getty running?
[07:37] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: how much ram do you have?
[07:37] <orange__> warewolf_: i have 6
[07:37] <chavo> warewolf_, yes
[07:38] <|Jason8|> robotgeek, 384 megs
[07:38] <flaccid> |Jason8|: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:38] <|Jason8|> flaccid, thx
[07:38] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: maybe use a lower resolution, i am not sure. i dont know if kde is going to be usable too
[07:38] <chavo> |Jason8|, where areyou getting that info from?
[07:38] <chavo> I use KDE on a lptop with 384, it's fine
[07:39] <flaccid> kde copes ok on 64mb ram
[07:39] <|Jason8|> chavo, from the process monitor
[07:39] <chavo> I just ordered a 1G stick for it tho
[07:39] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: ignore me :)
[07:39] <|Jason8|> :p
[07:39] <chavo> |Jason8|, most of that is in the cache more than likely
[07:39] <Pollyo> Any idea how much space the base kubuntu installation takes?
[07:40] <chavo> Pollyo, ~1.8 gigs for edgy
[07:42] <Pollyo> Anyone know of a Remote desktop that will also connect to Windows XP systems?
[07:42] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash64
[07:42] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:43] <flaccid> Pollyo: rdp
[07:43] <flaccid> as for server the only common one is VNC
[07:44] <Pollyo> flaccid, this rdp will allow me to connect to a windows system withouth installing additional software on the xp machine?
[07:44] <flaccid> correct Pollyo
[07:44] <flaccid> !krdc
[07:44] <Pollyo> flaccid, thank you.
[07:44] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 968 kB
[07:45] <flaccid> np
[07:46] <Pollyo> I see virus scanners for Linux in the package lists.  I'm just getting involved in GNU/Linux do viruses work just like they do on windows on linux?
[07:46] <flaccid> i actually really like krdc for its rfb reduction
[07:46] <flaccid> Pollyo: nope
[07:46] <teufel> damn
[07:46] <flaccid> windows viruses don't run on linux
[07:46] <teufel> all i want to do is watch a movie
[07:47] <flaccid> !movie
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <flaccid> !movies
[07:47] <teufel> yeah read all that
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <flaccid> hehe nothing there..
[07:47] <teufel> repository this that all it says is break install
[07:47] <flaccid> you have a codec problem teufel?
[07:47] <teufel> yeah
[07:47] <Pollyo> flaccid, If I were to install wine would I have to worry about viruses?
[07:47] <teufel> im new to linux
[07:47] <flaccid> what package you can't install, teufel?
[07:47] <Pollyo> flaccid, any idea?
[07:47] <teufel> vlc
[07:47] <teufel> mplayer
[07:47] <teufel> extracodecs
[07:48] <teufel> says they are there
[07:48] <flaccid> Pollyo: in theory no. in practice its a very small possibility.
[07:48] <teufel> but says break install
[07:48] <teufel> using adept
[07:48] <flaccid> what says break install?
[07:48] <flaccid> ok
[07:48] <flaccid> teufel: try using konsole and apt-get, you done that before?
[07:48] <teufel> earlier
[07:48] <flaccid> teufel: do an apt-get update
[07:49] <teufel> ok hold up
[07:49] <flaccid> what package(s) you need o install, teufel?
[07:49] <june> does anyone know if in xorg.conf an agp card must reflect that in the "BusID" option?
[07:49] <flaccid> june: well yes the bus ids need to match
[07:49] <flaccid> iirc, june
[07:49] <teufel> ok done
[07:50] <teufel> vlc
[07:50] <flaccid> teufel: now what packages do you want to install?
[07:50] <teufel> mplayer
[07:50] <teufel> and codecs
[07:50] <teufel> extracodecs for avi files
[07:50] <flaccid> let me just prepare a command for you teufel
[07:50] <teufel> hells yeah i hope it works
[07:50] <teufel> my head hurts
[07:51] <teufel> too much new stuff
[07:51] <flaccid> you don't mind a few extra things?
[07:51] <teufel> na
[07:51] <flaccid> coz its good to get a few xine things in there
[07:51] <teufel> i just want this to be a mulitmeadia desktop atlease
[07:51] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs gxine totem-xine xine-ui
[07:51] <teufel> yeah xine is another i was wanting
[07:51] <flaccid> try that teufel?
[07:52] <teufel> Reading package lists... Done
[07:52] <teufel> Building dependency tree
[07:52] <teufel> Reading state information... Done
[07:52] <teufel> Package gxine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:52] <teufel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:52] <teufel> is only available from another source
[07:52] <teufel> E: Package gxine has no installation candidate
[07:52] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs gxine totem-xine xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> thats better
[07:53] <flaccid> !pastebin > teufel
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | teufel
[07:53] <ubotu> teufel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> oops
[07:53] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> sorry teufel
[07:53] <flaccid> im drunk
[07:53] <flaccid> do the last command i pasted
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hahae
[07:53] <teufel> so even thou it said package has no installin candidate its going to work
[07:53] <flaccid> bloody red wine
[07:54] <Pollyo> Will I be able to browse the web using Linux as easily as I can on windows? (Is there a better room for such questions?)
[07:54] <Skuller> flaccid: wont hehave to enable some repos?
[07:54] <flaccid> teufel: nope. do my last command and ignore th rest
[07:54] <flaccid> Pollyo: you can browse faster and better :)
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Pollyo: much safer too
[07:54] <Skuller> Pollyo: and safer
[07:54] <flaccid> Skuller: we see now with my non-drunk command if extra repos requried
[07:54] <Pollyo> Flaccid, how about plugins for the browsers?
[07:55] <Skuller> flaccid: hehe...ok :)
[07:55] <flaccid> Pollyo: only limitation is latest flash for browser helpers/plugins
[07:55] <teufel> sorry man i dont think that worked
[07:55] <flaccid> teufel: error?
[07:55] <teufel> yeah
[07:55] <teufel> same as earlier
[07:56] <flaccid> can't be...
[07:56] <flaccid> whats the last line of the rror
[07:56] <teufel> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:56] <flaccid> !xine
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <flaccid> wtf
[07:56] <flaccid> one sec
[07:56] <Skuller> gxine?
[07:56] <teufel> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[07:56] <Skuller> !gxine
[07:56] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 1216 kB
[07:56] <Skuller> !kzine?
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kzine? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <teufel> sorry im tired as well
[07:57] <Skuller> !kxine
[07:57] <flaccid> teufel: one sec. i am druknk
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <teufel> its cool im getting there
[07:57] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:57] <flaccid> you don't need the xine
[07:57] <flaccid> sorry
[07:57] <flaccid> wrong OS..
[07:57] <Skuller> yea...not for gnome i guess
[07:58] <flaccid> and the red wine...
[07:58] <Skuller> i meant KDE
[07:58] <Skuller> lol
[07:58] <flaccid> hehe
[07:58] <flaccid> you drunk too? lol
[07:58] <teufel> E: Broken packages
[07:58] <teufel> what does that mean
[07:58] <Skuller> get away from me..i knew red wine had contagious effects
[07:58] <flaccid> what else does it say
[07:58] <teufel> im drinking southern comfort
[07:58] <flaccid> Skuller: lol
[07:58] <flaccid> nice
[07:59] <teufel> im unregistered how do i post without flooding
[07:59] <flaccid> teufel: just pm me
[07:59] <teufel> i cant
[07:59] <teufel> pm me
[07:59] <flaccid> its my fault coz i'm drunk anyway..
[07:59] <flaccid> um
[08:00] <flaccid> use http://pastebin.ca
[08:01] <teufel> says that those players have dependencies
[08:02] <flaccid> pastebin the whole thing then link me
[08:02] <teufel> ok hold up
[08:03] <teufel> http://pastebin.ca/390205
[08:04] <flaccid> teufel: you need to enable repos
[08:04] <flaccid> !source-o-matic
[08:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:04] <flaccid> thats a quick solution to enable all...
[08:05] <teufel> ok i thought i did
[08:05] <Skuller> aha...i thought so...lol
[08:05] <flaccid> !libaa1
[08:05] <ubotu> libaa1: ascii art library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4p5-30 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:05] <flaccid> hmmm thats weird but ^^
[08:05] <flaccid> !vlc-nox
[08:05] <ubotu> vlc-nox: multimedia player and streamer (without X support). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 4038 kB, installed size 11060 kB
[08:05] <flaccid> teufel: is universe enabled? taht might be the only one needed
[08:05] <Skuller> *hiccup* (flaccid's red wine's contagious drunk effect's effect)
[08:06] <flaccid> Skuller: its bettter to enable only the repose required
[08:06] <flaccid> !mplayer
[08:06] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:06] <teufel> check all of those check boxex
[08:06] <teufel> boxes
[08:06] <flaccid> teufel: you probably need at least main, universe, and multiverse
[08:06] <Skuller> flaccid: hmm...thas true...i was a nutcase to go about enabling all the repos in the  source-o-matic...lol...
[08:07] <flaccid> Skuller: thats what i do anyway :)
[08:07] <Skuller> lol...something tells me all this has something to do with red wine
[08:08] <teufel> says create source.list opens kate .......... now what
[08:08] <Orange1> whats the voice chat program for linux
[08:08] <Orange1> like ventrilo / teamspeak
[08:08] <Skuller> !akiga > Orange1
[08:08] <flaccid> teufel: replace /etc/apt/sources.list with what was put in kate
[08:08] <Skuller> !ekiga > Orange1
[08:08] <flaccid> well technically my method is better practice than
[08:08] <flaccid> red wine/all
[08:08] <chavo> Orange1, teamspeak has a linux client
[08:10] <Skuller> now i know what inspired them to name that compatibility layer WINE
[08:10] <warewolf_> can someone help me figure out my windows partitions?
[08:11] <Skuller> warewolf_: they are the 'ntfs' type
[08:11] <flaccid> Skuller: no they are not
[08:11] <Skuller> warewolf_: ignore that
[08:11] <flaccid> they could be fat or fat32
[08:11] <Skuller> flaccid: sorry
[08:11] <warewolf_> Skuller: well, more specifically, why can I only have permission to see one of them?
[08:12] <flaccid> warewolf_: pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l in konsole
[08:12] <Pollyo> I haven't had any luck in changing the size of ntfs.
[08:12] <flaccid> !ntfs
[08:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:12] <flaccid> ^^^^ thats a good guide on mounting
[08:12] <Skuller> yea
[08:12] <Skuller> i had da same problem when i installed kubuntu...
[08:12] <warewolf_> flaccid: They are both already mounted, and I can read C:, but I am told I don't have permission for D
[08:13] <Skuller> is D on a separate HDD?
[08:13] <scotty> Question: How can I make my Kubuntu clock automatically update for DST?
[08:13] <warewolf_> Skuller: No
[08:13] <warewolf_> Skuller: Only 1 HD.. this is a notebook
[08:13] <Skuller> warewolf_: first apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[08:13] <Pollyo> My clock just updated looks like they have the new daylight savings working...
[08:14] <Skuller> warewolf_: sorry
[08:14] <warewolf_> Skuller: I wasn't the one needing that info =P
[08:14] <Skuller> scotty:  first apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[08:14] <flaccid> warewolf_: read the umask sections of the url i invoked
[08:14] <Skuller> warewolf_: no idea about your problem...you can try using the method in !ntfs
[08:14] <teufel> hey how do copy something to the root dir with konquerer
[08:15] <flaccid> teufel: runk konqueror under kdesu
[08:15] <Pollyo> When I locate my Dell restore DVD's I'm going to wipe the drive and setup both windows and kubuntu.
[08:15] <teufel> i know how but how to with root access
[08:15] <Skuller> flaccid: why not under sudo?
[08:15] <teufel> i just started using kubuntu
[08:15] <flaccid> Skuller: sudo is for cli
[08:16] <Skuller> flaccid: what are the screw ups if u mix the two?
[08:16] <teufel> and my head is hurting from thinking
[08:16] <flaccid> Skuller: can't rememer off the top of my head. i never did the wrong thing and used sudo...
[08:16] <Skuller> flaccid: hehe...ok i'l keep that in mind..thanx fer da info
[08:16] <flaccid> well i do then had ownership issues, so stoppped...
[08:17] <flaccid> Skuller: kdesu was made for a reason.... if it didn't need to made it wouldnt of been made
[08:17] <warewolf_> Skuller: How do I account for a space in the name of the share? (using console)
[08:17] <flaccid> warewolf_: encapsulate the param in inverted commas
[08:17] <Skuller> warewolf_: you are now asking me questions and using terms out of my linux knowledge...please refer to someone else...sorry
[08:17] <Thedeathmonkey> Wow... compared to linux, Kubuntu was like installing a cloud into my computer instead of a jagged metal monstrosity.
[08:18] <Thedeathmonkey> I mean gentoo
[08:18] <Thedeathmonkey> Man, I'm high.
[08:18] <warewolf_> flaccid: Thanks
[08:18] <flaccid> hahahahahahhaha
[08:18] <Skuller> lol
[08:18] <teufel> damn i cant find it
[08:18] <Skuller> i KNEW it...the red wine conspiracy is around here
[08:19] <Thedeathmonkey> Also, compared to how fast applications install/launch, its freakin' awesome.
[08:20] <flaccid> gentoo will be faster if you install it correctly
[08:20] <flaccid> :)
[08:20] <Pollyo> What is gentoo?
[08:20] <Skuller> i heard gentoo can be installed on xbox
[08:20] <Thedeathmonkey> Well, I used it for 3 years, I was pretty good with it
[08:20] <Skuller> !gentoo
[08:20] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[08:21] <Thedeathmonkey> Gentoo is like Linux from Scratch, only it has a portage system similar to whatever Ubuntu uses
[08:21] <Thedeathmonkey> I'm new, still learning terminalogy
[08:21] <warewolf_> flaccid: rm -d doesn't remove directory?
[08:21] <flaccid> warewolf_: rmdir
[08:21] <flaccid> gentoo is good, but i'm a bsd user so i never use it
[08:22] <Skuller> make dir?
[08:22] <flaccid> mkdir
[08:22] <Thedeathmonkey> Kubuntu is like my dream OS... holy crap.
[08:22] <teufel> im looking right at the file in konqueror but i dont know how to access the root where do i put in the password
[08:22] <me2win> !dst
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Skuller> cool...i remember using DOS bak in the 90's wen i was 8 and making dir's with 'md' trying to get games which i dont have to run
[08:23] <scotty> Skuller: I get an error when I try to Set date and time automatically.
[08:23] <Skuller> scotty: what error?
[08:23] <scotty> It says Unable to connect to time server
[08:23] <scotty> pool.ntp.org
[08:24] <Skuller> did u apt-get install ntp?
[08:24] <scotty> yeah
[08:24] <Skuller> no idea then bro...it worked for me first time without hassles....
[08:25] <Skuller> altho i also did sudo apt-get install ntp-doc....if that has any significance, i m not sure
[08:25] <flaccid> Skuller: it has no significance
[08:25] <Skuller> !ntp | scotty
[08:25] <ubotu> scotty: ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB
[08:25] <Skuller> flaccid: :( i thot so...dumb me
[08:26] <flaccid> time to get a life
[08:26] <Skuller> flaccid: hey..lol..you were the one who helped me in getting the ntp to work....
[08:28] <Skuller> scotty: ask flaccid...he helped me to get mine working
[08:28] <scotty> he left
[08:28] <Skuller> sorry i dint notice that
[08:29] <Skuller> scotty: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-928.html
[08:29] <Skuller> scotty: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/synchronize-the-system-clock-to-network-time-protocol-ntp-under-fedora-or-red-hat-linux.html
[08:30] <scotty> thanks, Skuller
[08:30] <scotty> I'll take a look
[08:30] <Skuller> scotty: np man...hope it helps...coz i cant anymore in this matter
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> [/clear
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit.
[08:35] <teufel> how do i use the sudo command in konqueror
[08:35] <teufel> how do i use the sudo command in konqueror
[08:35] <teufel> i need root access to move a file there
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> teufel: kdesu konqueror
[08:45] <|Jason8|> "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.  Not automatically fixing this."  Halt.  What would cause this?
[08:47] <vegas> what do you guys recommend for a linux hard disk diagnostic tool?
[08:49] <firecrotch> Hello all!
[08:49] <vegas> hi firecrotch
[08:50] <firecrotch> Is it just me, or do the symbols on this page: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/p-convention.html    not show up right?
[08:50] <firecrotch> Using Firefox 2
[08:50] <vegas> yea they're messed up
[08:51] <firecrotch> Anyone know of any way to make this not happen?
[08:51] <vegas> tell the person that made the page to encode it correctly
[08:52] <firecrotch> What's the standard for character encoding?
[08:53] <vegas> i just tried it on safari, FF1.5, FF2, IE6, IE7, Konqueror and they all made it display like that
[08:53] <vegas> is that your site?
[08:53] <firecrotch> Heh, definitely not my site
[08:54] <vegas> good
[08:54] <firecrotch> I don't use silly characters like those
[08:54] <vegas> i don't think they meant to
[08:54] <firecrotch> Actually they did
[08:55] <|Jason8|> what's the command to configure x-server agian?
[08:55] <|Jason8|> I lost it... again
[08:55] <firecrotch> vegas: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/online-preface.html   They even made a table saying what each one should be
[08:56] <me2win> is there a command to check memory types?
[08:56] <firecrotch> !xorg > firecrotch
[08:57] <firecrotch> !xconfig | |Jason8|
[08:57] <ubotu> |Jason8|: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:57] <|Jason8|> thanks
[08:58] <firecrotch> me2win: What do you mean by "memory types" ?
[08:58] <|Jason8|> !fixres
[08:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:58] <warewolf_> Ok, I think I got most of this figured out... one last question on the mounts... does Feisty already have RW support for NTFS or still needs that extra package?
[08:59] <me2win> firecrotch: like what time of ram this cpu uses, DDR 400 or 333 or whatever
[09:00] <firecrotch> me2win: Open up the computer and look.  It's by far the most accurate way to find out.
[09:01] <me2win> lol im too lazy
[09:04] <|Jason8|> How do I get back into the GUI from the commandline?
[09:05] <c0nv1ct> |Jason8|: how did you leave the GUI?
[09:05] <|Jason8|> alt+f1
[09:05] <c0nv1ct> |Jason8|: then hit ctrl-alt-f7
[09:06] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[09:06] <Hasrat_USA> linus torvald doesn't like GNOME :-D
[09:07] <c0nv1ct> why would he? :)
[09:07] <|Jason8|> hahahahaha.
[09:07] <|Jason8|> gnome is pretty... ugh
[09:07] <|Jason8|> reminds me of Windows 95
[09:07] <makuseru> the only gnome that looks nice is Ubuntu Studio
[09:08] <|Jason8|> I've run Ubuntu breezy for a while
[09:08] <|Jason8|> just switched over to kubuntu dapper
[09:08] <makuseru> why not Edgy?
[09:08] <|Jason8|> it seems a lot faster so far.
[09:08] <|Jason8|> Don't have the CD
[09:08] <|Jason8|> :p
[09:08] <makuseru> you dont need it
[09:08] <|Jason8|> dialup
[09:08] <makuseru> and its faster because its dapper and not breezy, not becuase its kubuntu not ubuntu
[09:08] <|Jason8|> but KDE in general, makuseru
[09:09] <makuseru> KDE is slower than Gnome
[09:09] <makuseru> because it has a lot more options, and alot more to load
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> i havent noticed a difference
[09:09] <makuseru> and anyway, the dialup thing, when you install you would still have nearly 100 updates
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> i just prefer KDE cuz i like QT apps, and only use maybe 1 or 2 gnome apps
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> and nautilus blows
[09:10] <MegaVolt> is there a way to burn a file bigger then 4 gb on dvd? k3b tells me the file cant be added (nero does the job)
[09:10] <makuseru> and you can always get free Ds shipped to your house
[09:10] <Hasrat_USA> i'm installing opera for linux now :)
[09:10] <|Jason8|> did the msn server change or something?  I haven't been able to connect to that for a while
[09:10] <|Jason8|> ooo, opera.
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: you may need a dual layer disc then
[09:10] <makuseru> MegaVolt: you can only put 4.2 on a DVD unless its dual layer
[09:11] <MegaVolt> i can put 4.4 gb on a disc
[09:11] <MegaVolt> but not in a single file
[09:11] <c0nv1ct> yeah i thought it was around 4.5
[09:11] <MegaVolt> with k3b, nero can do it as single file
[09:11] <makuseru> all my DVDs say 4.2 on them
[09:11] <makuseru> but 4.4 sounds right
[09:11] <MegaVolt> i got a signle 4.3 gb file hero, it fits on the dvd but k3b refused to add it to the project
[09:11] <makuseru> because CDs say 700 but i can put mroe than 700 on one
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> 4.7 sounds right to me, but i dont recall
[09:12] <makuseru> no
[09:12] <MegaVolt> 4480 meg
[09:12] <makuseru> its not 4.7
[09:12] <MegaVolt> quite exact
[09:12] <makuseru> what kind of file
[09:12] <MegaVolt> its a video
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> its 4.7
[09:12] <makuseru> it is not 4.7
[09:12] <makuseru> no matter what you say
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> makes sense, since 8.5 is dual layer
[09:12] <MegaVolt> dvd-r and dvd+r have different sizes
[09:12] <MegaVolt> and those differ from the pressed ones
[09:13] <MegaVolt> but that really doesnt matter ;) the problem is that k3b wont burn a single file larger then 4 gb and nero (windows) can
[09:13] <makuseru> megavolt: are you taking into account that it has to have other things on there to make the video play in dvd players, so its not just all that one file, it has to have the tings it needs on there
[09:13] <MegaVolt> it wont evel let ma add the 4.3 gb file to the burn project
[09:13] <MegaVolt> makuseru i dont want to play it on a dvd player
[09:14] <makuseru> so your just doing data dvd then?
[09:14] <MegaVolt> yea
[09:14] <MegaVolt> a data dvd with a single 4.3 gb file
[09:14] <makuseru> compress it
[09:14] <MegaVolt> no
[09:14] <firecrotch> MegaVolt, I think your issue may have something to do with base 10 vs base 2 representation of size
[09:14] <MegaVolt> i dont want to
[09:14] <makuseru> why
[09:14] <MegaVolt> firecrotch: why is that?
[09:15] <MegaVolt> btw using iso / udf file system doesnt matter, k3b wont even let me add the file to the project so i dont even get to the dialog to chose that stuff
[09:16] <MegaVolt> nero the other hand lets me add the file and i can burn it, but udf only because iso cant handle large files (which i really dont care about ;) )
[09:16] <makuseru> you could always use Wine and install Nero
[09:16] <MegaVolt> so is it a bug / feature / missing feature in k3b? or is there a way to burn big files?
[09:17] <makuseru> you can always just compress it
[09:17] <firecrotch> Most of the time, when something is reported as 4.3 GB, they mean 4,300,000,000 bytes
[09:17] <Hasrat_USA> opera is faster than firefox no doubt
[09:17] <firecrotch> In some cases, they mean 4,617,089,840 bytes
[09:18] <MegaVolt> firecrotch: the file is "small" enough to fit on the dvd so that shouldnt matter
[09:18] <c0nv1ct> officially they are supposed to say GB or GiB to determine that
[09:18] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: But in reality, no one does
[09:18] <MegaVolt> and even if it wasnt k3b should at least let me add it to the project and then tell me that the project is too big to fit the dvd
[09:18] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: exactly
[09:19] <firecrotch> That's why when you buy a 500GB hard drive, it shows up as having only around 480GB of space
[09:20] <makuseru> right click on it and kubuntu should tell you in bytes how biig ti is
[09:20] <makuseru> big it is*
[09:20] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: because they use decimal instead of binary to decide the total on the package, where your computer uses binary math
[09:21] <MegaVolt> i really dont see what that has to do with the k3b problem :(/
[09:21] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: its probably exactly what we are talking about, its actually bigger than 4.3gb
[09:22] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: is this a downloaded ISO, or something you made yourself?
 firecrotch: the file is "small" enough to fit on the dvd so that shouldnt matter
[09:22] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Exactly.  Everyone needs to get on the same page.  1GB = 1024MB.  Perioud
 and even if it wasnt k3b should at least let me add it to the project and then tell me that the project is too big to fit the dvd
[09:22] <MegaVolt> no my problem has nothing to do with that
[09:22] <firecrotch> Could be a bug in k3b then
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: yeah, using 'gibibytes and gigabytes' will just confuse people
[09:23] <MegaVolt> lets say i got a 10 gb file
[09:23] <MegaVolt> k3b _should_ at least let me add it to a project and then complain that the dvd is too small
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: GiB or GB? :P
[09:24] <MegaVolt> lets make it a 12137238356 byte file
[09:24] <firecrotch> MegaVolt: Why should it even let you add it if it's just going to give you an error?
[09:24] <MegaVolt> because i could have a 20 gb blue ray disc or something
[09:24] <c0nv1ct> or it may be expecting a mult-disc session
[09:24] <MegaVolt> who is that k3b guy to decide what _I_ want to burn
[09:25] <MegaVolt> right
[09:25] <Hasrat_USA> duh i need to install Java for Opera and configure it to play wmv mpg etc etc files
[09:25] <MegaVolt> so you dont know a way to burn single files >4gb in k3b except splitting em ?
[09:26] <MegaVolt> java for wmv mpg etc ?!
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> no
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> i already have JRE 5 installed
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> mozilla can detect it
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> but opera aint
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> opera aint opening any java applet
[09:27] <c0nv1ct> you probably need the opera-specific plug-in
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> although it's opening flash movies faster than firefox
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> yeah you're right c0nv1ct
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> let's tinker
[09:32] <firecrotch> Stupid daylight savings time is throwing me off
[09:32] <c0nv1ct> did it switch yet?
[09:33] <firecrotch> My computer did
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> i didnt notice i lost an hour
[09:34] <thumper> Is there an upgrade-manager equivalent for kubuntu to go to feisty?
[09:35] <thumper> if so, is it in the repository somewhere?
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> thumper: i believe so, i saw someone asking how to run it after saying it was installed
[09:35] <thumper> c0nv1ct: any idea what it's called?
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> kubuntu upgrade manager or something, i'm not positive
[09:35] <thumper> aparently I have to move to feisty now
[09:36] <thumper> :-)
[09:36] <c0nv1ct> why is that o.O
[09:36] <firecrotch> thumper:  Why?
[09:36] <thumper> sabdfl says so
[09:36] <thumper> :)
[09:36] <firecrotch> thumper: who or what is that?
[09:36] <thumper> I'm a launchpad developer
[09:37] <thumper> firecrotch: our self appointed benevolent dictator for life
[09:37] <firecrotch> Can't you just change edgy to fiesty in sources.list?
[09:37] <thumper> that is one way
[09:37] <thumper> but when asking around I was told there was this new tool
[09:37] <thumper> and it would be good to help test it
[09:37] <JackPhil> howto prevent auto close monitor when watching movie?
[09:37] <JackPhil> kaffeine
[09:37] <thumper> so
[09:37] <thumper> I thought I'd ask before just editing sources.list
[09:38] <crimsun> adept
[09:38] <thumper> crimsun: was that for me?
[09:38] <crimsun> yes.
[09:38] <thumper> Riddell: did you write the new tool?
[09:38] <thumper> crimsun: that isn't the tool that was mentioned
[09:39] <crimsun> hmm
[09:39] <thumper> Riddell: to upgrade to feisty
[09:39] <firecrotch> I'm trying to decide if I should upgrade to feisty
[09:40] <thumper> the gnomers have update-manager
[09:40] <thumper> and I recall there being a new one for kubuntu
[09:40] <thumper> firecrotch: do you really need stability
[09:40] <thumper> if not, then go for it
[09:40] <thumper> if you do, then perhaps wait
[09:40] <abattoir> thumper: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[09:41] <firecrotch> thumper: I'd _prefer_ stability, but I'd also prefer having the latest stuff
[09:41] <thumper> abattoir: thanks,exactly what I was looking for
[09:41] <thumper> Riddell: unping
[09:42] <abattoir> thumper: :)
[09:42] <JackPhil> laptop, 10 minutes before the screen went to black without any mouse and key action.
[09:42] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: i'm the same way, i have feisty running on my laptop
[09:42] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: but feisty totally went nuts when i installed it on this PC
[09:43] <JackPhil> but it is annoyed if i am watching movie.
[09:43] <c0nv1ct> JackPhil: just disable your screensaver and power management
[09:43] <firecrotch> Well, considering that I don't have any weird hardware, I think I may be just fine.  Everything worked out of the box when I installed Edgy
[09:43] <firecrotch> Even wireless
[09:44] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: hardware-wise, feisty was fine, it was when i ran adept to update after the fresh install is when it got messy
[09:45] <c1|freaky> hi all. what can i do when theres no sound output im using feisty?
[09:46] <c0nv1ct> !sound
[09:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:47] <Pollyo> Here I go.... Attempting to resize my XP partition now that I have ntfsresize running does anyone know of major problems with it?
[09:47] <c1|freaky> ARTS is running. it doesnt say anything like "no output device" amarok f.e. plays songs, the analyzer shows output (frequencies) and the song is playing but i have no sound output.
[09:47] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i'd resize it while in XP, to be safe
[09:47] <genii> Are there any good tools to recover/repair corrupted vob files?
[09:48] <Pollyo> Onv1ct How do you do that?
[09:48] <Pollyo> It just failed the resize because of "Extended record needed"
[09:48] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: manipulating ntfs partitions in linux, even just writing files to it, has risks
[09:48] <firecrotch> c1|freaky: This may sound stupid... but are you speakers plugged in/turned on/not muted?
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: right click on My Computer, and select Manage
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: lol, i was just gonna ask that
[09:49] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Great minds think alike :)
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: its troubleshooting 101, start with the simple stuff that is often overlooked :P
[09:50] <Pollyo> Onv1ct: Under manage it has the ability to resize a partion?
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i beleive so, let me fire up vmware and check
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i know vista does, cuz i just did it last week
[09:50] <c1|freaky> firecrotch: nm its working now i dont even know why ;D
[09:50] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Yeah, I did quite a bit of tech support in my dorm... you would not believe how many times I just had to plug in someone's printer when it didn't work for them
[09:50] <c1|freaky> but the hardware volume wheel isnt working :(
[09:51] <c1|freaky> but the keykombinition is ... so np ;D
[09:51] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[09:52] <c1|freaky> how to say "kubuntu"? is it "K" "ubuntu" or like "qbuntu" ?
[09:52] <Pollyo> Can you download a DVD install for kubuntu or do you have to purchase the DVD version?
[09:52] <c1|freaky> no theres nothing u need to purchase
[09:52] <Pollyo> I have the CD install.
[09:52] <firecrotch> c1|freaky: I pronounce it as "Kooboontoo"
[09:52] <c1|freaky> you can download the DVD ...
[09:52] <Pollyo> I wanted to find a DVD install.
[09:52] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: wait let me look
[09:53] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: where r u from?
[09:53] <c1|freaky> do u have any torrent client?
[09:53] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Phila., PA; USA
[09:54] <c1|freaky> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/edgy/release/ look there ;)
[09:54] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Yes, on my Windows machine
[09:54] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Thank you.
[09:54] <c1|freaky> but its the edgy release ... feisty doesn't have a dvd image yet just cd test images
[09:54] <c1|freaky> but edgy is the current stable
[09:54] <Orange1> is there a program to rename my music collection properly
[09:55] <Orange1> by using an online database
[09:55] <c1|freaky> does someone know of any software for my ipod where i can put music and stuff on it?
[09:55] <Pollyo> c1frealy: When the newest kubuntu is out will I be able to update the edgy install?
[09:55] <Orange1> c1|freaky: yes
[09:56] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: yes.
[09:56] <c1|freaky> Orange1: whats its name?
[09:56] <Orange1> c1|freaky: I know of a program for ipods
[09:56] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Great.  I'll download and install the edgy DVD.  I have the feisty? CD installed on this machine.
[09:56] <Orange1> c1|freaky: gtkpod
[09:56] <Pollyo> c1freaky: I'll put the edgy on my windows machine.
[09:56] <warewolf_> Wow... Amarok is nice :)
[09:57] <Orange1> c1|freaky: theres also banshee / rhythmbox music player
[09:57] <Orange1> gtkpod is the alternative to itunes
[09:57] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: it isnt even hard to do that. i think ive read that adept can do that and even notifies u of a new release. but even if it doesnt you just need to know when the new release is out and ask here almost everyone knows how to do that. u can even install edgy and after the install upgrade to feisty at its current development state ;)
[09:57] <Orange1> geek6oy: oyabin?
[09:58] <c1|freaky> Orange1: thanks :)
[09:58] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: sorry, i guess XP doesnt have a resize option
[09:58] <Pollyo> conv1ct: np.  I'm backing up my files onto DVD from my windows system.
[09:58] <Orange1> c1|freaky: http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10
[09:59] <c1|freaky> u need to defragment your hdd under windows then u can use ntfsresize on a kubuntu live cd i guess
[09:59] <Pollyo> c0nv1ct: I may just trash the entire system (or most of it)...
[09:59] <Orange1> where is c0nv1ct
[10:00] <Pollyo> c1freaky: I was reading you do not even have to bother with a defrag. (at least it stated you didnt have to)
[10:00] <Orange1> nvm
[10:01] <c0nv1ct> que?
[10:01] <Orange1> when I try to open an mp3 from my xp box (networked with samba) it opens with amarok and thunderbird...
[10:01] <Orange1> amarok closes right away and thunderbird wants to compose an email
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: lol nice
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: that i have not seen before
[10:02] <Orange1> k-menu -> multimedia -> amarok   // doing this opens amarok and thunderbird
[10:02] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[10:03] <Orange1> and they crash right after
[10:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[10:03] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: can you edit the menu to verify the command for the link is correct?
[10:03] <Orange1> i did that already
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> Orange1: install libxine-extracodecs & make sure amarok is using the xine engine
[10:04] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: that will solve thunderbird from opening?
[10:04] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: ok ;p
[10:04] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: not necessarily but amarok should play the mp3
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: he says when he runs amarok, thunderbird opens too, and they both crash, i dont think it even gets a chance to load a mp3
[10:05] <embrik> how do I install w32codecs
[10:05] <Orange1> TheGateKeeper: where do you see an options/preferences on amarok - cant find it
[10:06] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: can you run 'amarokapp' manually in a console window?
[10:06] <Orange1> i used a different method to open amarok
[10:06] <TheGateKeeper> well I would open amarok, get it playing mp3's ok then remove the file association with thunderbird if it is still causing a problem
[10:06] <Orange1> but the link in startmenu or opening network'd files isnt working
[10:07] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: open the playlist window, its under Settings
[10:07] <TheGateKeeper> Orange1: settings --> configure amarok
[10:07] <embrik> anybody, what's the repository for installing w32codecs? kubuntu dapepr
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> embrik: have you enabled multiverse repos?
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: 1 min I will give you a wget
[10:08] <Orange1> ah no wonder i couldnt find it - i keep forgetting about that mac bar in top
[10:09] <Orange1> hold on i brb 10ms - gotta feed the kids
[10:09] <embrik> c0nv1ct: multiverse is enabled
[10:09] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: look at the top of the page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[10:10] <c0nv1ct> embrik: let TheGateKeeper get you the wget link, i forgot its not in the repos
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: ^^^^ on my web page :-)
[10:11] <genii> Is there some smart demux/remux program which can salvage damaged vob files?
[10:11] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: whats in the w32codecs package? i installed it once before on a different OS install, but i forget why
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: not sure exactly what they contain, but you would use them to play M$ sound files
[10:13] <apu> hi all
[10:13] <apu> how can i write down a cd iso to a rw dvd?
[10:13] <apu> with k3b.
[10:13] <embrik> TheGateKeeper: thanks :-)
[10:13] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: ah, wma and wmvs i'm sure
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: yep correct :-)
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: yw :-)
[10:15] <c0nv1ct> anyone know if theres any advantage or disadvantage to using different audio output plugins? specifically for amarok
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> reason is, i was getting some bad quality, snaps and crackles
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> with xine engine?
[10:16] <True_Friend> Hi folks
[10:16] <True_Friend> i am facing a serious problem. last day reinstalled my windows xp on C/dev/hda1) it was FAT32 now changed to NTFS. But the problem is now other partition E/dev/hda it cannot be mounted automatically at startup. i tried to mount it through KDE System Settings but it gives error same error i got through "sudo mount -a" command this is the out put.
[10:16] <True_Friend> .........................
[10:16] <True_Friend> ss@ss-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:16] <True_Friend> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda8,
[10:16] <SunRise> is there any way to check my hard disk Errors which has NTFS file system?
[10:16] <True_Friend> missing codepage or other error
[10:16] <True_Friend> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> xine engine, and using 'autodetect' for the output plugin
[10:16] <True_Friend> dmesg | tail or so
[10:16] <True_Friend> [10:16] <True_Friend> i can mount this partition manually with sudo mount /dev/hda8 /media/hda8 but then it is not accessable i can only access it through root account and there i also cannot write something.
[10:16] <True_Friend> i tried to change permission but could not.
[10:16] <True_Friend> any ideas????
[10:16] <True_Friend> Edgy is once again teasing me a lot last time i had to migrate back towards Dapper i do not want this now
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> wow, spam much?
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin | True_Friend
[10:17] <ubotu> True_Friend: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: and i believe your problem is in your fstab
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: if it was FAT32 before, and NTFS now, fstab has to be updated to reflect that
[10:18] <True_Friend> nops
[10:18] <True_Friend> hda1 is ntfs now
[10:18] <True_Friend> not hda8
[10:18] <True_Friend> hda8 is creating problem
[10:18] <True_Friend> now can i paste /etc/fstab here?
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> noooo
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> use pastebin!
[10:18] <SunRise> hey, can somebody answer my question?
[10:18] <True_Friend> i do not know how to use it
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> use pastebin, and include 'fdisk -l' output as well
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> go to the link, its self-explanitory
[10:19] <True_Friend> okiez
[10:19] <True_Friend> i paste it there and give link
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> yep
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> include 'fdisk -l' too please
[10:19] <True_Friend> okiez
[10:20] <True_Friend> both
[10:20] <SunRise> help to a geril, please
[10:20] <c0nv1ct> well crap, amarok doesnt seem to like the other output plugins
[10:21] <SunRise> *girl
[10:21] <c0nv1ct> whats the problem SunRise
[10:21] <SunRise> oh, thank's god...i received ananswer =)  is there any way to check my hard disk Errors which has NTFS file system?
[10:22] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[10:22] <True_Friend> here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785/
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: fsck is the filesystem checker, but i'm not 100% sure it supports ntfs
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: you can always check it inside Windows :)
[10:23] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: it does...this morning it auto scanned it for error saying i had mounted it 30 times already without a single check
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: ah cool, good to know
[10:23] <Orange1> Skuller: how do i disable that or make it longer
[10:23] <SunRise> conv1ct: thanks...but i can boot windows, it dosn't work :(
[10:23] <SunRise> *cfy njt
[10:23] <SunRise> can not*
[10:23] <Skuller> Orange1: disable what or make what longer?
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: ahh, then go ahead and try running fsck on it
[10:24] <Orange1> Skuller: that scanning thing every 30 mounts
[10:24] <Orange1> i get it 2-3 times every 2 days
[10:24] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: reboot less :P
[10:24] <Orange1> i restart alot
[10:24] <Skuller> Orange1: sorry no idea....it did this after 3 weeks to me though
[10:24] <SunRise> c0nv1ct: i'll try
[10:25] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: still learning kubuntu - must restart heavily -- i read somewhere that only times u ever need to restart is for a kernal upgrade -- so i guess its possible to reboot less if u know the cmds to manually restart services...
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: reboots are expected during the first few days of configuring, after you get everything set right, it wont be a hassle
[10:26] <Orange1> where can i find the boot log
[10:26] <Orange1> i get alot of 'key' errors i need to research
[10:27] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: /var/log
[10:27] <purpleplether> how do you read a vista live file system cd/dvd w/ kubuntu
[10:27] <True_Friend> i think i should explain once again facing problem of a mounted partition lost here is the out put at paste bin plz suggest me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785/
[10:27] <c1|freaky> is there any other ipod software for kubuntu than gtkpod? it doesnt really work doesnt display any songs which are on my ipod
[10:27] <Orange1> c1|freaky: have u tried the other two?
[10:27] <daftman> do anybody else have a problem with kde kicker menu?
[10:27] <c1|freaky> Orange1: /var/log/
[10:28] <c1|freaky> Orange1: umm, no ;D can you give me the page again? :)
[10:28] <daftman> i cant move the system tray to the place I want
[10:28] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: on line 15 of that pastebin, change vfat to ntfs
[10:28] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: its line 14 sorry
[10:28] <Orange1> http://howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10
[10:28] <c1|freaky> thx :)
[10:28] <True_Friend> and hda1
[10:28] <True_Friend> but problem is in hda8
[10:29] <True_Friend> it is lost
[10:29] <True_Friend> and there is no change made in this partition
[10:29] <True_Friend> :(
[10:29] <corveum> Is there GUI tool that will allow me to mount smb shares at will?
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: yeah, next to /media/hda8 in fstab, change vfat to ntfs so it will automount properly
[10:29] <Orange1> anyone know what single_command mode is?
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: are you having problems with hda1 as well?
[10:30] <True_Friend> nops
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: yes if you are kubuntu
[10:30] <corveum> That's why I'm in this IRC
[10:30] <True_Friend> simply it is not writeable which is normal for a ntfs
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: so its just /dev/hda8 then?
[10:30] <True_Friend> but hda8 which is fat32 creating problem
[10:30] <True_Friend> and it is also not changed
[10:31] <True_Friend> only reinstall of windows let it brust
[10:31] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: no, /dev/hda8 is NTFS, look at the fdisk -l output
[10:31] <corveum> Is it in the default build? Or do I need to download a seperate tool?
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: K --> System Settings --> Internet & network --> sharing
[10:31] <True_Friend> ok i try this but it should not
[10:31] <genii> corveum In Konqueror just put smb://  instead of http:// or so
[10:31] <corveum> smb in Conqueror doesn't mount the share.
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: to test it now before you reboot after making changes to fstab, type this
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda8 /media/hda8
[10:32] <True_Friend> ok i try it
[10:36] <c0nv1ct> weird, i have to keep amarok at 80% volume, or it gets scratchy
[10:37] <Cugel> convict: that may have to do with general sound settings -- try getting overall sound less loud?
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: even if i drop the master volume down, and put amarok at 100%, its quieter but scratchy still
[10:38] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: When I go to Sharing and enter Administrator mode I still don't have access to any of the controls. Is something wrong with my install?
[10:38] <caotic> Hi, im having a problem setting the root file sistem
[10:38] <Cugel> Hmm, that's strange. Maybe people in #amarok can help.
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: but forcing it to use alsa seems to make it better
[10:38] <Timsen> c0nv1ct, eventually you have to volume down the PCM part in Kmix
[10:38] <Cugel> convict: yeah, actually I don't think it's particularly Amarok's fault.
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> Timsen: i've turned that down as well
[10:39] <caotic> i have several partitions, i have set one to be "/" but the wizard still tell me that there is no root file system
[10:39] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: have you installed samba?
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> Timsen: its at about 2/3rds max
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> well, more like 3/4
[10:39] <caotic> im in step 5 of 6 of the instalation, an it wont let me go any further
[10:39] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: yes and smbfs
[10:40] <corveum> (well samba is pre-existing in Kubuntu isn't it?)
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: no you have to install samba only the client is installed by default
[10:41] <corveum> Anyone - How do I load Kubuntu Help files? All I've got in my install is this damned UNIX Manual
[10:41] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: well, now how do I do that?
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: the 'man' command is your friend :P
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: sudo apt-get install samba
[10:42] <caotic> never mind, i found out what was the problem, i had a raiserfs filesistem on it
[10:43] <corveum> I hate to say it, and I hope you guys to lambast me, but all this command line stuff is why Linux is never going to become a "user" OS... ok getting samba now
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> corveum: there is a GUI apt-get alternative
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: well use synaptic
[10:43] <Cugel> corveum: most of the stuff you want can be done from the GUI -- but the command line is actually easier and more powerful. What would you prefer?
[10:43] <caotic> corveum, htere is almost always a click/next wizard for whatever you want todo
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> corveum: believe it or not, using the CLI is actually faster in many cases
[10:43] <Cugel> But I agree with you.
[10:44] <corveum> Synaptic isn't in the default Kubuntu install... so how do I get that one?
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> corveum: use Adept Manager
[10:44] <corveum> Who wants a click next wizard. That's the last thing I want
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: apt-get install synaptic
[10:44] <smile> hello Linux People
[10:45] <corveum> Same as Synaptic... not in the Kubuntu default install
[10:45] <smile> I hav a problem to install Compiz on NVIDIA .... any help plz ???????????????????????
[10:45] <corveum> hi smile
[10:45] <Cugel> smile: what is the problem, then?
[10:45] <caotic> will it be a smarth move to make a single boot partition for multiple distributions  asuming they will change/update the kernel ?
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: the default installed gui package manager is adept, which IMHO is rubbish
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> corveum: you dont have to install Synaptic, Adept Manager accomplishes the same thing
[10:46] <corveum> Oh, I use command line alot, don't get me wrong... but having to relearn all this UNIX is not what I have time to do right now
[10:46] <smile> Cugel: i installed Compiz and Nvidia-xgl but the X server dont start
[10:46] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: I agree with you there
[10:46] <Cugel> gatekeeper: what's wrong with Adept? It does the updating fine.
[10:46] <corveum> Updating, but what about know what else is available?
[10:46] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: it has a search box, thats all i need it for
[10:47] <Cugel> smile: it means your xorg.conf file is broken -- probably. Basically we need to see that file.
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> Cugel: try installing java, then you will find out one of the many reasons I don't like it
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you follow a HOWTO?
[10:47] <corveum> Yes, but I don't even know what packages I need... so not much use for me
[10:47] <Cugel> gatekeeper: java is really broken on my machine, can you elaborate on that?
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: thats because java requires you to accept a license agreement
[10:47] <smile> Cugel: when I type "compiz" i get "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images"  and "No composite extension"
[10:47] <Cugel> But I used automatix2... (yes I know, I'm not worthy).
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: if you enable verbose while its installing, you can hit accept,
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: got it in one :-) :-)
[10:47] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. 2 HOWTO .. the same
[10:48] <smile> Cugel: my xorg.conf is fine
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> smile: can you link the howto?
[10:48] <corveum> Samba sure seems awfully big. . . Sigh why can't networks just get along - sniff -
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> smile: its possible you may of missed a step
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i've always prefered microsoft services for unix, than samba for linux :)
[10:49] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: synaptic lets you look at the terminal output whenever you want, adept is a BAD example or re-inventing the wheel
[10:49] <smile> c0nv1ct: no .. i did it 4 times ... the same problm
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: adept does that too, u just click the button
[10:49] <smile> c0nv1ct: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:49] <smile> Cugel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:50] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I assume Microsoft bought their good networking from Nothern Telecommunications, because they sure ruined it when the release Active Directory
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: do you have a nvidia card?
[10:51] <smile> c0nv1ct: gfore FX 5200
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> corveum: hehe, i prefer NDS or as its known now eDirectory for LDAP
[10:51] <smile> c0nv1ct: Gforce
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> smile: then you dont need to install XGL, thats a really old HOWTO
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> smile: are you using kubuntu Edgy?
[10:52] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed nvidia-xgl
[10:52] <smile> c0nv1ct: is this ?
[10:52] <Cugel> I have a question too. dmesg shows me massive amounts of errors like 'FAT: Directory bread(block 79) failed' -- they originate from my (disconnected) external harddisk. Is there any way to do something about that?
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> smile: yeah, that howto has you installing XGL, when you can use nvidia's support for AIGLX instead
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> XGL is actually harder on resources, and really doesnt do anything better that i've seen
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> and AFAIK it doesnt support direct rendering, which blows
[10:54] <smile> c0nv1ct: AIXGL ?? is this like XGL ?
[10:54] <blue|palm> my apt-get is broken... I tried to install a package that tried to overwrite another package but failed... now everytime i invoke apt-get to do anything it tries to install the package (dcraw) and fails every time... how do i fix this?
[10:54] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes, its the same thing, but it runs on top of Xorg, and doesnt require a seperate process like XGL to run too
[10:55] <smile> c0nv1ct: and AIXGL runs Compiz too ?
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: i can help you fix your XGL, but I ended up reinstalling kubuntu cuz i messed it up so bad trying to remove XGL, lol
[10:55] <blue|palm> c0nv1ct: but some of us are forced to use XGL namely ati users
[10:55] <fdoving> blue|palm: when it fails you get the full path to the package at the end of the error message. 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <path-to-package>'
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> blue|palm: yeah, thats why i asked if he had nvidia first off :P
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> blue|palm: nvidia users got it much easier in linux
[10:56] <blue|palm> fdoving: but i dont want to overwrite it... i just want it to stop installing :(
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes, it runs compiz too
[10:56] <blue|palm> c0nv1ct: I agree
[10:56] <fdoving> blue|palm: ok, then remove the package. 'sudo dpkg -P dcraw'
[10:56] <blue|palm> fdoving: lol is it that simple :) thanks
[10:57] <corveum> How is autofs? any good?
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you modify your gdm.conf-custom like it says in the howto?
[10:57] <blue|palm> fdoving: I was trying to remove it via apt-get i should have tried dpkg... thanks
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: well all I know is that a lot of people have come in here asking for help after attempting to install java with adept & it breaking their system, what really put me off is when it crashes & burned when I tried to install more than one package at a time
[10:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: i always have people install java with apt-get anyway, much simpler
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> s/crashes/crashed
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> smile: please tell me you backed it up before you edited it
[10:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. i did everything
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: me too :-)
[10:59] <blue|palm> fdoving: thanks loads
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> smile: you are using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:59] <fdoving> blue|palm: you're welcome.
[10:59] <blue|palm> fdoving: it was actually the package kubuntu-desktop that was conflicting (it was relying on digikam which was relying on dcraw)
[10:59] <smile> c0nv1ct: both
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: ah ok, so you use GDM, and have both gnome and kde installed
[11:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i installed it on Gnome means Ubuntu
[11:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: when I type "compiz" i get "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images"  and "No composite extension"
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: ahh ok
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: in that howto, it explains what to do for that
[11:01] <corveum> c0nv1ct: what were you saying about the man command?
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9788/
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: add those 3 lines to the bottom of your xorg.conf
[11:02] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i thought thats what u were talking about when u mentioned UNIX manuals
[11:02] <smile> c0nv1ct: i did it already
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: and you still get an error about missing composite?
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: you did restart X after you made that change right?
[11:03] <stamen> hi
[11:03] <stamen> how to mount ntfs partition with write permission
[11:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i restart my computer
[11:04] <stamen> I am with new kernel which supports this
[11:04] <blue|palm> Is there any way to speed up kubuntu? It boots up really slowly. and in kde launcing applications takes about 3-5 seconds. I have a dual core AMD FX-60 cpu with an 80GB ATA hdd and 1GB of ram so i dont think its my hardware. Konqueror is by far the slowest of the lot
[11:04] <smile> but .. i cant start X
[11:04] <smile> c0nv1ct: but .. i cant start X
[11:04] <c0nv1ct> smile: what error do you get when X fails?
[11:04] <stamen> but I don't know how to do this
[11:04] <smile> c0nv1ct: compatibility with NVIDIA driver
[11:04] <c0nv1ct> smile: does it say there are mismatched modules?
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> smile: something like, found 97## but expected 87##?
[11:05] <smile> c0nv1ct: NO
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> smile: what is the exact error
[11:06] <smile> c0nv1ct: NVIDIA module not found
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, you need to reinstall your nvidia drivers
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=disable+module+nv
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: follow that guide starting at STEP 2
[11:07] <warewolf_> Anyone help me get my microphone working?
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: and dont go to STEP 3
[11:08] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i installed nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> smile: from apt-get? if so those are old
[11:09] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. from apt-get .. so where can i find new driver ?
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> smile: wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[11:09] <ubuntu_> hi, I want to cold flash a nokia 770 but when I want to do this, there alwazs comes, you need to supply the second image..any ideas what that means_
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> smile: those are the latest drivers, so when following the instructions in STEP 2 of that guide, run that instead of the 9260 or whatever it says
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: by the way .. can I install Beryl ?
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: on ubuntu DAPPER !
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> smile: if you want, but compiz and beryl dont always play nice together
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> smile: you are on dapper?
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: i want install compiz OR beryl
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, you should be fine anyway
[11:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: thxs alot
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: you can run beryl if you want, its considered to be less stable than compiz though
[11:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: i will try that
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: that same guide will tell ya how to install beryl if ya want
[11:12] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok .. thank u .. i'll try
[11:12] <Orange1> what package do i need to view quicktime .mov files  being streamed on firefox
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336412&highlight=latest+nvidia could be a better HOWTO for installing nvidia drivers
[11:13] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer | Orange1
[11:13] <ubotu> orange1: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> its more recent
[11:14] <CrypTom> Hi all, I've got a strange effect: I installed kubuntu on my new ThinkPad X60, when I put it in the dock and boot using an external display, I get 1280x1024 resolution for kdm, as soon as I log in, it switches back to 1024x768. Why is that?
[11:14] <warewolf_> Anyone able to figure out why KMIX isn't talking to the alsomixer?
[11:14] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom:
[11:15] <sorush20> when I download a source where do they get downloaded to ?
[11:15] <c0nv1ct> sorush20: depends on what you used to download it
[11:15] <warewolf_> Or know why I can't have teamspeak and amarok open at the same time?
[11:15] <fdoving> sorush20: with apt-get source?
[11:16] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: Yes?
[11:16] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: does teamspeak use OSS or ALSA?
[11:16] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: what kind of changes do I need to make?
[11:16] <sorush20> fdoving: yes
[11:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: it's set to use OSS, not sure how to change to alsa (I don't know the pathname to the device)
[11:17] <fdoving> sorush20: to the directory you issue the command from.
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you can try setting amarok to use OSS as well, see if that fixed is
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> it*
[11:17] <Hasrat_USA> you would need to add "1280x1024" before every "1024x768"
[11:17] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: what should the also device path be?
[11:17] <Hasrat_USA> and restart x
[11:17] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I already did that
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had the same problem using wine and amarok, but making wine use OSS fixed it
[11:17] <sorush20> what I I do it from synaptic?
[11:17] <sorush20> or adept
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> isn't there an issue with more than 1 app wanting to use the sound card?
[11:18] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: the resolution 1280x1024 is chosen, but only for the login screen (kdm)
[11:18] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: paste your xorg into pastebin.ca and post the link
[11:18] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: ok
[11:19] <Orange1> Jucato: thanks
[11:19] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: so you say to make them on the same? or different?
[11:19] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try making them the same, if that doesnt work, have one use ALSA and the other OSS
[11:20] <Jucato> Orange1: sure
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i have amarok using alsa, and wine using oss, and both are working, but didnt when both were using alsa, so it might be related
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i havent used teamspeak since installing ubuntu, so i cant test that configuration specifically
[11:21] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: The link: http://pastebin.ca/390295 (this is the xorg.conf created by the most recent knoppix, and it works well with knoppix).
[11:22] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I'm confused as to why KMIX doesn't change the volume on my mic.. had to open alsomixer in a console to get it working right
[11:23] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: weird, i tested my mic yesterday, and kmix was working
[11:23] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: in gnome I could change the audio driver.. not in kmix?
[11:24] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I modified the original xorg.conf (that is created when installing kubuntu) by adding what you said, but then I get 640x480 !!!
[11:25] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I've done this on several other notebooks before, I never had that much trouble
[11:25] <Hasrat_USA> ok hang on a sec
[11:25] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i'm not sure where to change the driver globally in kde
[11:26] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: oh, its in kcontrol, duh
[11:26] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: do you know the path for the alsa driver then? I know my oss is /dev/dsp
[11:26] <Hasrat_USA> oh crap
[11:26] <Hasrat_USA> why does it look like that
[11:27] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: no, i'm not sure of the actual path
[11:27] <crazyrobot> my alt+F1-F6 is only showing half the screen, does anybody know how to fix this?
[11:27] <picca> hi, i've just bought a Philips X55 laptop and can't get Kubuntu to install it.  It hangs when trying to load the "8139too" driver ... is it possible to tell kubuntu at boot time not to use this driver?
[11:27] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: what do you mean? the many comments?
[11:27] <Hasrat_USA> oh no it's ok
[11:28] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: OK, using OSS for teampspeak and OSS for Amarok fails...
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it could be /dev/adsp
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try amarok with alsa
[11:30] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no go... I swear they aren't really changing..
[11:30] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: be sure to restart amarok between changes, it was crashing when i didnt do that
[11:30] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: i take it you can get 1280x1024 during KDM's login splash screen but as soon as it logs in, it goes back to that other resolution, right?
[11:30] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: thats right
[11:31] <Hasrat_USA> that's an improvement
[11:31] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Still nothin... in the control panel, should I leave it on auto detect for the sound driver? I've got full duplex on..
[11:31] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: but when I use the xorg.conf created from ubuntu (and adding manually "1280x1024") I end up getting 640x480!!!
[11:31] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you can, but i think it picks alsa, lol
[11:31] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: what app works when both are running? amarok only?
[11:32] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: correct... no matter what my music flows =P (someone maybe doesn't want to hear my voice badly?)
[11:32] <Hasrat_USA> well if you delete 1280... again you will get back to previous state
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yeah, it sounds like teamspeak needs to be reconfigured then
[11:33] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I know it worked back with 6.06 and 6.10 out of the box...
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try /dev/adsp
[11:33] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: then I get 1024x768
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i've seen this problem before, but never saw a solution, unless it was you in here before lol
[11:34] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: maybe the problem is that I installed kubuntu without an external display (but I always did that with earlier laptops)
[11:34] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: nah.. I've never needed help in the past with this same machine... I'm guessing it's a 7.04 glitch.. or KDE.. was using ubuntu previously
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: thats entirely possible, 7.04 is far from perfect :)
[11:35] <Hasrat_USA> may be...but i'm running a 20 inch over here and i also made similar mistake during install and resolution was a little screwed up but i fixed it simply adding 1280x1204 to the xorg
[11:35] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I've had some quirks using Kubuntu vs ubuntu.. kinda strange that anything other then interface is different
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: not that i am aware of
[11:36] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: No version of Kubuntu I've tried auto mounts my windows partitions... all version of ubuntu do... thats one thing :)
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i actually started with ubuntu, with a kubuntu-desktop installed on top, then reinstalled completely to kubuntu
[11:36] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here ?
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> smile: hi again, any luck?
[11:37] <Orange1> http://www.winehq.com is this site down for anyone?
[11:37] <smile> c0nv1ct: the 2 HOWTOs are for EDGY not DAPPER !! is that fine ?
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> smile: it should be, the nvidia installer builds a custom kernel module for your specific kernel
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: wait
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: it says not to use on dapper, lol
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: or no, if you upgraded from dapper
[11:38] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no luck with adsp or /audio
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> smile: you may want to use the older howto then
[11:39] <smile> c0nv1ct: so i must upgrade my DAPPER to EDGY ?
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> smile: no, that wont help
[11:39] <smile> c0nv1ct: wich HOWTO should i use so ?
[11:39] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: this is crazy... why must I pick full-duplex? that should be a given =P
[11:40] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[11:40] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: deselecting full-duplex fixed it??
[11:40] <firemonkeyballz> im just trying to find drivers for my realtek hd
[11:40] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no... I'm just looking through options to see if I maybe missed something magical
[11:41] <firemonkeyballz> digital versions
[11:41] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: thats what I've got... RT HD 7.1+2
[11:41] <firemonkeyballz> 883?
[11:41] <smile> c0nv1ct: should i use so the Beryl HOWTO from step 2?
[11:42] <c0nv1ct> smile: 1 sec, for some reason i cant type in firefox anymore
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> did come accross some analog drivers in a blog
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> however
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> the link was dead
[11:42] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: try looking up "azalia"?
[11:43] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[11:43] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: kinda suprised since that is Tied to Intel that there aren't drivers for linux..
[11:43] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm not sure now, since they are for edgy, and you have dapper, i dont wanna make things worse, lol
[11:43] <Hasrat_USA> there is nothing as stupid and useless as window preview in beryl
[11:44] <smile> c0nv1ct: so .. i see i will not run Compiz on my comp :-(
[11:44] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: Stupid = system hard locks if wireless and beryl at same time =P
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm sure its possible in dapper, but it'd be best to follow a howto specifically for dapper
[11:44] <warewolf_> smile: You ATI or NVIDIA?
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: hes nvidia, luckily
[11:45] <firemonkeyballz> i have ATI and got that to work
[11:45] <smile> warewolf_: NVIDIA
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: ati?
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> hi
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> I've got a question
[11:45] <warewolf_> smile: beryl or compiz? I've run both on both brands
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> there is this one upgrade that shows up
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: ati?
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> that never completely goes trhough
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> I mean through
[11:45] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: Video card brand?
[11:45] <smile> warewolf_: compiz on dapper
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> yes
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> it is called dvd+rw-tools
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> its status is upgradable
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> but when I request it to be upgrade
[11:46] <firemonkeyballz> new-to thought ubuntu could do that already
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> it will say "break (upgradale)"
[11:47] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: if you are runniing Beryl on Ati you are prone to contronting many problems by default
[11:47] <Hasrat_USA> fortunately feisty is coming on april 7
[11:47] <new-to-ubuntu> firemonkeyballz: what do you mean by ubuntu could do that already
[11:47] <firemonkeyballz> there are tools to burn DVDs
[11:47] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: I'm not running ATI.. i'm trying to help someone run XGL =P
[11:48] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: I'm looking for the guide I used for dapper / compiz that worked well
[11:48] <new-to-ubuntu> I understand but 1) I don't have a dvd burner 2) the package has been showing on my upgrade list for a couple of days now
[11:48] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu: so download the source, and compile it, its the newest version anyway.
[11:48] <crazyrobot> 7
[11:48] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: open a command line interface and try this:   sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade      --> Will you then be able to upgrade it?
[11:49] <firemonkeyballz> you can opt to not upgrade
[11:49] <new-to-ubuntu> I have tryed that but I will do that again
[11:50] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: you tried a dist-upgrade?
[11:50] <new-to-ubuntu> does that go all in one line of command? because I usually have done that process in two lines
[11:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[11:50] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: yes, all one line.... well the stuff between    ":"  and "-->"
[11:50] <new-to-ubuntu> yes I had tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: and see if that lets X start
[11:50] <crazyrobot> before you do a dist-upgrade you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> new-to then theres another command after that
[11:51] <warewolf_> smile: are you not wanting beryl?
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> you select the package to upgrade
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> im not sure what the command is
[11:51] <new-to-ubuntu> afterwhat do you want me to edit out of the sources.list?
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> that si what I just got
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[11:52] <smile> warewolf_: why not ?
[11:52] <crazyrobot> you have to change all the dapper to edgy or whatever dist you want to upgrade to.
[11:52] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: hmmm.... then it's interesting that you can't upgrade...
[11:52] <calcmandan> Using Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS. Just installed wine via the repository. The font is really ugly, but cannot find where to change it. Anyone have a tip?
[11:52] <smile> warewolf_: but i saw in a HOWTO that Beryl is not stable on ubuntu !
[11:52] <crazyrobot> change all the dappers and that apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade then apt-get upgrade.
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> caugt it
[11:53] <hyper_ch> smile: oh well, something not called stable does not mean a lot :)
[11:53] <firemonkeyballz> I think for most it would just be easier to download the dvd iso
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> for some reason when I had copied the command from here it had copied it twice
[11:53] <firemonkeyballz> or get it from a friend
[11:53] <warewolf_> smile: just wondering.. i think they are both very unstable =P anyways.. there are much better guides and scripts for beryl
[11:53] <smile> calcmandan: type "winecfg" to configure wine
[11:53] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: it works now?
[11:53] <calcmandan> I was just there. I saw no mention of fonts.
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> now it is going through
[11:54] <smile> warewolf_: give it to me so
[11:54] <new-to-ubuntu> and it proposed a lot of changes apparently
[11:54] <new-to-ubuntu> thank you gang
[11:54] <Orange1> anyone know if flash professional 8 works on kubuntu (with wine or another method) -- winehq.com isnt loading for me
[11:55] <hyper_ch> Orange1: it works 100% with vmware or virtualbox :)
[11:55] <hyper_ch> not sure about about wine
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> but you know it is proposing getting rid of my whole kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <warewolf_> smile: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> :P
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> I had not realized that detail
[11:55] <crazyrobot> it will probably reinstall the new one.
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> well I will reinstall it
[11:55] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu
[11:55] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: that is strange... what did you do with your system?
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> well not much that I know of
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: notice how it says (recommended) for AIGLX on that page? :P
[11:56] <Orange1> vmware is jus ickky
[11:56] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu: when i upgraded my dual xenon box from edgy to feisty it did the same thing
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> to which particular thing of all I have done to this system could you be referring to?
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[11:56] <hyper_ch> Orange1: you can try virtualbox then
[11:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: what do u mean ?
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> well I haven't changed any hardware
[11:56] <hyper_ch> crazyrobot: you're on feisty and using konvesation?
[11:56] <Orange1> hyper_ch: i used vmware and it was just too 'laggy' for me - thou this is a 'top' system
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: just saying, XGL is the hard way... but you'll be ok
[11:57] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Don't make the poor guys life difficult =P
[11:57] <crazyrobot> no i'm on a edgy box right now.
[11:57] <hyper_ch> Orange1: it's not laggy for me at all :)
[11:57] <new-to-ubuntu> hey gang since we are already on the subject is edgy stable already?
[11:57] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i feel his pain, i did XGL first, and regretted it
[11:57] <new-to-ubuntu> I mean kind of sort of?
[11:57] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: edgy has been stable a long time
[11:57] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: ya talkin about installing beryl with xgl?
[11:57] <firemonkeyballz> wolf you wanan exchange contact info if either of us find drivers?
[11:58] <new-to-ubuntu> I might consider upgrading then
[11:58] <smile> warewolf_: i'm not a newbiz .. i'm pro .. i can do anything
[11:58] <Orange1> hyper_ch: u need to do more intensive stuff -- til ya make vmware stop responding
[11:58] <hyper_ch> there are still some issues upgrading from dapper to edgy I think... not sure anymore
[11:58] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I honestly don't know which I'm running.. either way a script did it all for 7.04 =P
[11:58] <new-to-ubuntu> last I checked it was a couple of months ago and it still was kind of flakey according to someone in this channel
[11:58] <smile> warewolf_: i tried compiz on Suse and Mandriva Redhat & Fedora
[11:58] <oem> has anyone ever used Cedega?
[11:58] <warewolf_> smile: then tell me why beryl + wireless = hardlock for me after random interval =P
[11:58] <hyper_ch> Orange1: my old computer handles photoshop and civ3 quite well
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> oem: i have
[11:59] <oem> i installed WoW but cannot play it
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> so in order to upgrade just change every "dapper" for "edgy" in my sources list?
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> smile just downlaod the kubuntu version and test it via live cd
[11:59] <smile> warewolf_: i didnt try that frankly
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> if you have problems with it
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> then
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> just alert the community
[11:59] <smile> warewolf_: i see u r not helpful .. bye
[11:59] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: basically yes... but first check on the kubuntu site whether upgrade still has some issues
[11:59] <Orange1> smile: harsh
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> allright
[11:59] <warewolf_> lol
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> that will give me something to do
[12:00] <oem> can anyone help me??
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> allright gang I think I'm going to give it a try
[12:00] <crazyrobot> anybody know how to change the default shell from 40x25 to 80x25?
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> see you in a bit I'll let you guys know how it whent
[12:00] <c0nv1ct> oem: what error are you getting?
[12:00] <warewolf_> new-to-ubuntu: good luck
[12:00] <oem> none it just wont play
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> thanks warewolf_
[12:01] <new-to-ubuntu> :)
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> oem: type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me if it says Direct Rendering: yes
[12:02] <oem> it says all zeros behind each test
[12:02] <oem> missing glx
[12:03] <oem> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: did you run the system tests in Cedega?
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> wheee have direct rendering :D
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> no wonder its fast
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: if any of them fail, contact cedega support
[12:03] <oem> ummm
[12:03] <oem> ok
[12:03] <oem> why
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: cuz if they fail, cedega wont work, and the cedega forums will help you fix it
[12:05] <oem> ok just ran the test it failed at direct rendering
[12:05] <firemonkeyballz> well off to find drivers for the alc883
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> yep, thats a problem, you probably need to reinstall your video drivers
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> oem: what video card do you use, and do you use XGL?
[12:05] <oem> HAHAHAHAHA      yeah whish i knew how
[12:05] <oem> nividia
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: are you on edgy? and are you running XGL?
[12:06] <oem> ooon edgy not know the other
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: default edgy doesnt use xgl, so probably not
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: what nvidia card is it?
[12:07] <qex> hi
[12:07] <qex> i got a huge problem..
[12:07] <oem> sec
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> oem: if its series 6 or higher, i got a guide for ya, that'll fix your glx problem
[12:07] <qex> im using kubuntu and i need to know what my motherboards name is?
[12:07] <firemonkeyballz> wolf if your interested on that link I found
[12:07] <firemonkeyballz> http://uk.blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-kLgobDE_cqVv1JH8Yrs5u0AOygiyr1iiv0erhcaU_BKG?p=5
[12:07] <qex> any code or software to se that?
[12:08] <oem> it is (GeForce FX 5500 256mb AGP)
[12:08] <qex> is there any software to se wich motherboard and so on .. i got in my computer?? please help...
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> !nvidia
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> try that oem
[12:09] <oem> ok
[12:09] <crazyrobot> look at your bios
[12:09] <qex> ? me?
[12:09] <crazyrobot> qex: yeah
[12:09] <qex> but isnt there any software to look it up?
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> qex: not that i've ever found
[12:10] <crazyrobot> qex: reboot your computer and hit f2 or whatever when it talks about setup.
[12:10] <qex> okay.. so the only way is in bios.. thx :)
[12:10] <oem> dude just take the cover off of your case and look
[12:10] <qex> no press DEL
[12:10] <qex> i know how bios works
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> qex: you may be able to find out specific chipsets and such, but not your actual motherboard brand and model
[12:10] <qex> but im to lazy for a reboot :P
[12:11] <qex> okey.. thx.. il give it a shot
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm how do I check the kern version?
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> just wanna make sure this is compatable
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: uname -r
[12:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here again ? ;-p
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> smile: lol yes
[12:12] <oem> ok i am reading but not sure wich kernal i am suing is it if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[12:12] <firemonkeyballz> trying drivers from realtek
[12:13] <firemonkeyballz> aka the others version
[12:13] <c0nv1ct> oem: type uname -r
[12:13] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed Nvidia-kernel-common & nvidia-glx .. everything is fine till now
[12:13] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you install the linux-restricted-modules?
[12:14] <oem> oem@ubuntu:~$ uname -r
[12:14] <oem> 2.6.17-11-generic
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> oem: thats your kernel :)
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> cool sais that it has 883 in there
[12:14] <rambo> hello, i have a big problem starting userconfig (doesn't work in gui either)
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> buh
[12:14] <rambo> here is the error: http://rafb.net/p/jL2WiQ26.html
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> is it compatable
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[12:15] <oem> ok
[12:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: is this ncessary ?
[12:15] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes for the nvidia kernel module to be installed
[12:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: not yet .. i will do it now
[12:15] <firemonkeyballz> should work
[12:16] <firemonkeyballz> sais it uses alsa
[12:16] <c0nv1ct> smile: make sure its the right one for your kernel
[12:16] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i'm not so stupid :-p
[12:17] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u a developper or just a user ?
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> wolf
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> u there ?
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> my system clock says it's 7:17 AM. is that correct? i'm in NYC
[12:17] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz:
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> think realtek have our drivers
[12:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: a user, but i'm a fully qualified administrator.... but far from a developer
[12:18] <corveum> So, the default Kubuntu install Help application only comes with a UNIX manual, is there a way to install the Kubuntu User Manual?
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> I just need the gcc packages
[12:18] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: oh?
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> to install
[12:18] <smile> c0nv1ct: aha .. ok
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> just picked up the others package and it said it uses alsa
[12:18] <Red_Tear> hi
[12:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: & u just stay here soling other's problems ??
[12:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: solving
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: while playing texas holdem on pokerstars, yes
[12:19] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: very cool... eta on success?
[12:19] <roberto> HI
[12:19] <roberto> How r u?
[12:19] <firemonkeyballz> have to run adept and find gcc
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: i do it to learn mostly, gotta keep up on my linux skills
[12:20] <smile> c0nv1ct: hhhhhhhhh
[12:20] <c0nv1ct> smile: my degree is in network technology, if i dont keep up on stuff, i'm useless :P
[12:20] <smile> c0nv1ct: good .. me too .. i use Linux from 3 years
[12:20] <firemonkeyballz> its beter than nos's solution... wich might i mention made my kernal panic
[12:21] <firemonkeyballz> had to fix my clock afterwards
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> i've been a part time linux user since redhat 5, about 10 years or so
[12:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: i'm certified on Manager Computing Developper
[12:21] <jean-benoit> !fr
[12:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> more and more a full time linux user every day :)
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> i gotta get my certs, but i'm too poor to pay for the tests
[12:22] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I have installed Samba, and I can now open the share folder in the system settings and create shares, but I still don't see how to mount a share from another computer on my network...
[12:22] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed it .. i will try to restart my PC .. if i didnt send u a messag in 5 min .. so it didnt work
[12:22] <oem> i am afraid if install this that linux will break
[12:22] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i believe its mount -t smbfs, you might need to check the man pages though
[12:23] <firemonkeyballz> ummm which package in adept should I use?
[12:23] <c0nv1ct> smile: lol ok
[12:23] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: what do you hope to gain from installing their drivers?
[12:23] <firemonkeyballz> get my audio card to work 100%
[12:23] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: what isn't working?
[12:23] <smile> c0nv1ct: i should use GDM or KDM ?
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> the midi
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> and
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> umm
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> smile: if you have both gnome and kde installed, use gdm
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> synth
[12:24] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok
[12:24] <corveum> c0nv1ct: from the command line again? Is there no GUI?
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> and ocasionally I get errors on shutdown about the mixer
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> corveum: there may be a GUI for it
[12:24] <corveum> Has anyone used autofs?
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> corveum: my expertise is mainly server-side, so CLI is what i'm used to
[12:25] <kraut> moin
[12:25] <firemonkeyballz> that and modprobe doesnt show any info
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> corveum: btw, it is smbfs for the filesystem type if you use the CLI mount command
[12:26] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: You wouldn't have a solution for Teamspeak + Amarok would you?
[12:26] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i open xorg-conf i dont see  < Load    "GLcore" > is this normal ?
[12:26] <firemonkeyballz> still a little new
[12:26] <firemonkeyballz> so I regretfuly say no
[12:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: yeah, mine doesnt have it
[12:27] <mdtyke> Hey guys! :)
[12:27] <smile> c0nv1ct: what r the 2 line i must add ??
[12:27] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I understand. This is the command I was using... smbmount //HOSTNAME/SHARE /mnt/MOUNTPOINT smbfs username=SMBUSER,password=SMBPASS
[12:27] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: Thats OK... I've tried linux a few times in the last 6 months or so.. trying to get back into it.. last time I was regular user for linux KDE was brand new =P
[12:27] <mdtyke> Just wondering if someone could help me with a few quick issues
[12:28] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9793/
[12:29] <c0nv1ct> corveum: hmm, i'm not sure, i cant test it cuz i dont have smbmount isntalled
[12:29] <corveum> c0nv1ct: that comes from a forum entry and it is the only clear command line example I've seen yet
[12:30] <mdtyke> The first one is in regards to my network.  I'm connecting via a WLAN... but everytime I connect, it changes my DNS servers to the same as my default gateway.  Now, normally that's fine.. my net will work in Konqueror, and Skype connects.. but opera, firefox, apt etc don't work
[12:30] <c0nv1ct> corveum: does smbmount work for you?
[12:30] <corveum> no, I get an error
[12:30] <mdtyke> the only resolution I have is to manually go and change my DNS servers to that of my ISPs.. which I can do, but I'm doing it every 10mins :S
[12:30] <corveum> 6454: session setup failed
[12:30] <c0nv1ct> corveum: try installing the smbfs package
[12:30] <firemonkeyballz> so umm anyone sudgest wich version of gcc to install?
[12:31] <corveum> I did that before the samba install
[12:31] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i choose gdm i get "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed." ???????
[12:31] <c0nv1ct> smile: wow... i think your gdm.conf-custom is messed up
[12:32] <smile> c0nv1ct: no .. i have it
[12:32] <firemonkeyballz> !gcc
[12:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:32] <smile> c0nv1ct: in /etc/gdm/
[12:32] <c0nv1ct> smile: if i were you, i'd restore the backup you made before you edited it
[12:33] <smile> c0nv1ct: but the HOWTO tell to modify it !!
[12:33] <smile> c0nv1ct: i have the backup
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> smile: you should probably restore the backup, and edit it again from the howto
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> smile: start with a nice clean slate, after getting nvidia drivers installed right
[12:34] <c0nv1ct> corveum: what error did you get running smbmount?
[12:34] <corveum> Has anyone installed alternate keyboard drivers on Kubuntu? The Vietnamese driver that comes with it doesn't work
[12:35] <corveum> c0nv1ct: 6454: session setup failed
[12:35] <c0nv1ct> man, i havent setup samba in a long time
[12:36] <firemonkeyballz> hrm... it is installed
[12:36] <firemonkeyballz> ok
[12:36] <c0nv1ct> corveum: did you add the smb user accounts to linux?
[12:37] <clau85> automount doesn't work anymore in kubuntu breezy... usb devices aren't automatically mounted anymore...
[12:37] <corveum> c0nv1ct: oh good gravy... now how do I do that?
[12:37] <smile> c0nv1ct: do u have another HOWTO to modify gdm.conf-custom ?? maybe mine is useless
[12:37] <c0nv1ct> corveum: from what i remember, that was an important and difficult step
[12:37] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: driver installed?
[12:37] <c0nv1ct> smile: everything i've found is for edgy :(
[12:39] <jacopoexchange> can anyone tell me how to add a program to startup?
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: you might find this helpfull http://www.math.temple.edu/computing/samba.html
[12:40] <firemonkeyballz> getting there
[12:40] <c0nv1ct> corveum: have you looked at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[12:42] <__-osh-__> What's a good tool for keeping my laptop and desktop in sync? Sometimes I change files on my laptop and want those changes merged into the desktop homedir, sometime I change things on the desktop and want it merged to the laptop when I reconnect it. Any ideas? GUI-tools preferred but not a requirement.
[12:42] <firemonkeyballz> umm how do I run ark as root?
[12:42] <jake> hi guys, how do you install tar.gzip files?
[12:42] <c0nv1ct> jake: you extract them first
[12:43] <jake> and then? what command do i need? im new to linux
[12:43] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: are you looking for something with a gUI or will a simple but killer commandline interface do?
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> jake: that depends, if its source code, you have to compile it
[12:43] <Jucato> jake: what are you trying to install?
[12:43] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__:  rsync is my fav...
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> jake: yes, knowing exactly what you are trying to do will help us help you
[12:44] <jake> fluxbox, is it compatible with kubuntu?
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> jake: i've heard of people running it in ubuntu, so i'd assume so
[12:44] <Jucato> jake: you don't need to compile fluxbox. it's in the repositories
[12:44] <jake> oh really?
[12:45] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[12:45] <`Z`> poy (amsg)
[12:45] <Jucato> !info fluxbox | jake
[12:45] <ubotu> jake: fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[12:45] <c0nv1ct> jake: always check your package manager before trying to install things using source code
[12:45] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: I've tried rsync and it's ok. I was hoping for a gui-tool, something akin to what's availible for windows. Rsync has a way of eating an enormous amount of memory when you sync a lot of files.
[12:46] <bentob0x> what's that console app for KDE that is permanently on the desktop?
[12:46] <Jucato> !yakuakde | bentob0x
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuakde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Jucato> !yakuake | bentob0x
[12:46] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: what windows tool do you use then?
[12:46] <ubotu> bentob0x: yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[12:46] <jake> ok thanx, anyway anybody can give me idea to install tar.gzip files? i mean step by step
[12:46] <Jucato> sorry for the typo...
[12:46] <bentob0x> lovely thx
[12:47] <Jucato> jake: it really depends on what you're trying to install.. not everything that comes in .tar.gz and can be installed are compiled in the same way
[12:47] <Jucato> !compile | jake
[12:47] <ubotu> jake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:47] <jake> ok thanx
[12:48] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: It's called "the portfolio" in my localized copy of windows. Dunno the english name for it.  A tool where you specify which directories that should be synced on both machines and when it detects diffs it'll move files over and overwrite the older copy (if unchanged) or ask you to merge them (if both are changed).
[12:48] <jake> anybody here using fluxbox?
[12:49] <c0nv1ct> jake: i have, but am not currently
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> lol never use the switch user mode
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> if there's only one account
[12:50] <jake> so what can you say about fluxbox?
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> owch
[12:51] <firemonkeyballz> well atleast I got to see my new login screen
[12:51] <firemonkeyballz> snicker
[12:51] <c0nv1ct> jake: its very lightweight :)
[12:51] <c0nv1ct> jake: i wouldnt really consider it for beginners though
[12:51] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: ok - but rsync is faster than that, more like robocopy for windows. I am sorry cannot help you more :)
[12:52] <c0nv1ct> jake: its not so "microsoft-like" as with gnome and kde
[12:52] <bentob0x> that yakuake is classic
[12:52] <bentob0x> just been setting it up 'a la quake'
[12:52] <c0nv1ct> jake: but then again, its been a while since i ran it, so things may have changed
[12:53] <jake> c0nv1ct: ive installed it, how do i run it?
[12:53] <TheGateKeeper> jake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxbox
[12:53] <c0nv1ct> jake: at login, click Sessions, and select it from the list
[12:54] <mdtyke> Has anyone got an idea as to my problem? :)
[12:56] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: what is the problem?
[12:56] <mdtyke> The first one is in regards to my network.  I'm connecting via a WLAN... but everytime I connect, it changes my DNS servers to the same as my default gateway.  Now, normally that's fine.. my net will work in Konqueror, and Skype connects.. but opera, firefox, apt etc don't work
[12:56] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: I found out the finer points of rsync when I wrote a script to sync home-dirs between two filesystems and let it loose. Damn near took one of the servers down since I didn't know that it built a file-list and stored that in memory. With "a lot" of files and running on a few dirs, it caused havoc on our servers. But I learned something that day. :-)
[12:56] <mdtyke> the only resolution I have is to manually go and change my DNS servers to that of my ISPs.. which I can do, but I'm doing it every 10mins :S
[12:56] <firemonkeyballz> arg
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> when ever root access times out in kde
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> I cant open files
[12:57] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: are you able to do 'nslookup yahoo.com' in the console and get an IP?
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> that were given root permission
[12:57] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Funny thing is that there's a lot of sync-software for windows, damn near nothing for linux. And certainly nothing with a good gui.
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> @#!#$ ark
[12:57] <mdtyke> Konsole works fine too, sorry
[12:58] <mdtyke> Its just some applications.. mainly my browsers, kopete etc
[12:58] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Found something called "unison" which appears to be nice, however it's an abandoned project now. And the gui isn't all that good.
[12:58] <mdtyke> It seems as if some can cope with forwarding the DNS requests to my router, and others cant
[12:58] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: but are you able to do nslookups?
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> well these are 32 bit drivers
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> wolf
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> I cant use these
[12:58] <mdtyke> I can, yes c0nv1ct
[12:58] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: thats weird, then firefox should work just fine
[12:58] <neoo> hi
[12:59] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: i think the historical reason for this is poor laptop support on linux, hence fewer laptops on linux and less need for syncing. Now it is rather different :)
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: so you are able to browse the web in konqueror, but not in firefox?
[12:59] <mdtyke> Yep
[12:59] <mdtyke> Not Opera either
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> wow, thats strange
[12:59] <mdtyke> and Skype connects.. but that thing always connects; You'd swear it doesn't even need the internet to connect lol
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: so you just get a 404 error for everything u try in firefox?
[12:59] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Could be. Hey, wouldn't this be a great project for a firefox extension? ;-)
[12:59] <mdtyke> Timeouts
[01:00] <mdtyke> It literally cant connect
[01:00] <mdtyke> I suppose if I try the iP it'd probably work
[01:00] <mdtyke> I mean, I can connect to my routers page from it.. 192.168.1.1 etc
[01:00] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: try that, then it will confirm its a dns problem
[01:00] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: no, it would be a great add in to konqueror /(the one and only browser :P)
[01:00] <mdtyke> Bleh.. means I have to restart X to try it
[01:00] <mdtyke> Which leads to another one of my problems
[01:01] <mdtyke> If I go into suspend/hibernate, or even as much as lock the thing.. my touchpad drivers stop
[01:01] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you said at first, that it changes your DNS server settings?
[01:01] <mdtyke> Network Settings in KDE sets my DNS server as 192.168.1.1
[01:01] <mdtyke> And, everytime i connect to the WLAN, it is reset back to that
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: do you know what DNS servers your router is using?
[01:02] <mdtyke> I'm guessing my ISPs ones
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: if ya know, or can find out, add them to /etc/resolv.conf
[01:02] <mdtyke> If I change that resolv.conf though.. it changes again
[01:02] <mdtyke> Adding stuff in Network Settings edits that file sure
[01:02] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Sure, that too. Personally I'm a bit peeved that konqueror is out as a filebrowser in next kubuntu. I'm sure dolphin is great but konquror and kioslaves were "da bomb" to quote a youngster. Showing "man:" or "fish:" or "ftp:" or "dpkg:" or... well you get the idea was a hallelulja moment for a lot of people. :-)
[01:02] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: even if you append to it?
[01:03] <mdtyke> If I add something into network settings>dns servers, doesn't it automatically write that to resolv.conf?
[01:03] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: probably
[01:03] <mdtyke> it does.. as I've tried that before :P
[01:03] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: omg they gonna kill konqui?
[01:03] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: lets say - i want to take my laptop while at my school ( with a limited connection ) and connect to my home pc then use my home pc as a proxy - to access ports taht are blocked like to get on gaim for example
[01:03] <Orange1> what is this whole process called?
[01:03] <firemonkeyballz> im gonna see if deerpark works
[01:04] <Orange1> so i can find a guide for it
[01:04] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you can try and make resolv.conf 'append only' so it cant be changed
[01:04] <mdtyke> Well, I need to change it
[01:04] <mdtyke> this is the issue, and the point of having a laptop - I'm mobile
[01:04] <mdtyke> so I'm constantly changing DNS servers everywhere I go
[01:04] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: put the proper IPs to your ISP's DNS servers in there, and do 'sudo chattr +a /etc/resolv.conf
[01:04] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/
[01:05] <mdtyke> and what happens when I move to a mobile hotspot
[01:05] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: you'd have to chattr -a the file to change it
[01:05] <mdtyke> well that's as big of a hassel as the original problem
[01:05] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: The idea that I didn't have to diffrentiate between local or remote files were something outstanding in my point of view. Something that kde did right and gnome did wrong (imho).
[01:05] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: or if you always use the same hotspots, add their DNSs in there permenantly
[01:06] <mdtyke> Which I dont unfortunately
[01:06] <firemonkeyballz> anyone try deerpark ?
[01:06] <mdtyke> Hmm.. surely there's an explanation as to why Firefox and Opera can't access 192.168.1.1
[01:06] <mdtyke> I haven't tried that nslookup while I have the problem.. i did it there while I'm connected fine
[01:06] <mdtyke> I can go give that a try, hold on
[01:07] <firemonkeyballz> well deerpark is the 64 bit version of firefox
[01:07] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: it could be that opera and firefox are timing out quicker than konqueror does, and its possible your router fowarding the dns is too slow
[01:07] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: i've had that problem before with routers
[01:07] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: But I'm sure dolphin is great and that the kubuntu team knows what they're doing. I'll give dolphin a go when it ships and if it doesn't suit me I'll just switch back to konqueror. They're not removing it, just not making it the default.
[01:08] <mdtyke> brb
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> would someone please fix the ARK permissions
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> geez
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> cant extract any file
[01:08] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why not
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> its set for root
[01:08] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is, ARK or the archive?
[01:08] <firemonkeyballz> the archive
[01:09] <firemonkeyballz> I should beable to open ark with root access
[01:09] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: lol, then you have to extract it as root, or change ownership of the file
[01:09] <firemonkeyballz> yea buh
[01:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: if you run ark using kdesu, it should run as root
[01:10] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[01:10] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why are you dealing with archives owned by root in the first place?
[01:10] <mdtyke> okay
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> because it came that way on the website
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> I downloaded deerpark
[01:11] <mdtyke> Im back.  Opera and FF dead.  Skype, Konqueror and this are working fine
[01:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you are running your browser as root??
[01:11] <mdtyke> nslookup works fine
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> no
[01:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: then how did you download the file?
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> through konqueror
[01:12] <mdtyke> Adept can't connect either
[01:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: weird, then it shouldnt download it owned by root
[01:12] <firemonkeyballz> its been that way since I installed 6.06
[01:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: that should only happen if root is the user that actually downloaded it
[01:12] <mdtyke> The browsers just hang on "connecting to xx.com"
[01:13] <firemonkeyballz> think I found a away around it
[01:13] <firemonkeyballz> I just used the save as
[01:13] <mdtyke> Oh.. interesting
[01:14] <mdtyke> in Firefox when I enabled the 'disableIPv6dns' setting, it works
[01:14] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: weird
[01:14] <oem> ok it didnt work after installed the Nvidia drivers i rebooted and the darn thing crashed and i had to reinstall Kubuntu
[01:14] <bentob0x> if there is an error at boot, which log file should I check?
[01:14] <mdtyke> No such option in Opersa
[01:14] <mdtyke> Opera*
[01:14] <bentob0x> like an error in the fstab file for iinstance?
[01:14] <mdtyke> How do I globally disable IPv6?
[01:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here ? :-p
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm that explains everything
[01:15] <c0nv1ct> smile: unfortunately :)
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[01:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: i tried
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm do that in opera if you can
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> then you cant compain
[01:16] <mdtyke> I can.. as Adept doesnt work either
[01:16] <mdtyke> it appears to be a global setting that's causing the conflict
[01:16] <mdtyke> The firefox setting was just a workaround, not a resolution
[01:16] <smile> c0nv1ct: the problem message is "API mismatch Nvidia Kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 and this X module has the vesion 1.0-8776
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> o
[01:16] <firemonkeyballz> why dont you have ipv6?
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, that means you have 2 drivers running at once
[01:17] <mdtyke> I do have ipv6, but it appears to be causing conflicts
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: that i can fix
[01:17] <smile> c0nv1ct: how ?
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:17] <mdtyke> monkey: websites or adept dont work in FF/Opera when IPv6 is on.. could be a router issue, im not sure
[01:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: add DISABLED_MODULES="nv" to it
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: i did it .. will it work fien now ?
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: fine
[01:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: you gotta reboot though
[01:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: before you reboot
[01:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: i see i didnt change the vesion !!!
[01:20] <firemonkeyballz> ok ok I kno I might sound like a noob about this but... how do you install deerpark as like you woudl firefox?
[01:20] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> hey... my time didn't change!!!
[01:20] <c0nv1ct> smile: you have to reboot before it'll take effect
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> im so not use to using scritps
[01:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: and about the version ???
[01:21] <oem> have to see the dentist see you all later
[01:21] <c0nv1ct> smile: that will fix the version problem
[01:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: ahham .. ok . thx so much
[01:21] <c0nv1ct> smile: this should be the last thing to fix :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> anybody in the US, did your time change correctly?
[01:22] <firemonkeyballz> no directions geez
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: i think so, what time you got?
[01:22] <smile> c0nv1ct: should i install nvidia-kernel-source too ?
[01:22] <oem> i have 8:22 eastern
[01:22] <c0nv1ct> smile: no, not now, only if its still messed up
[01:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> 7:22,and I'm ont the east coast
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: mine says 5:22 for PST o.O
[01:23] <oem> it is actualy 8:22
[01:23] <BluesKaj> it's 8:23 EDT now
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> should be 8: 22
[01:23] <oem> it is actualy 8:22 23 now
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> I know.... I'm confided, zump said should have changed
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> *confused
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: type 'zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007'
[01:23] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: it should say march 11th
[01:24] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok thx so much amigo
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> it returns march 11 I tried two days ago
[01:24] <BluesKaj> how old is yer distro nosrednaekim ?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> this is edgy
[01:24] <BluesKaj> but your original install
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> edy was my original instal
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> this machine is only 3 months old
[01:24] <BluesKaj> hmmm, 'weird
[01:25] <firemonkeyballz> umm green means exicutable right?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> mine changed ok, but I shut my pc down every night , have you rebooted
[01:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:25] <firemonkeyballz> in konsole
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> I just turned it on this morning
[01:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: it should
[01:26] <firemonkeyballz> then how would I run a shell script
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> just a couple minutes abo
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> *ago
[01:26] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: doing ls -l will confirm that
[01:26] <BluesKaj> then the time should have updated
[01:26] <c0nv1ct> nosrednaekim: i meant firemonkeyballz
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: does it have a .sh ending?
[01:26] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i ask ADEPT to install nvidia-glx .. it asks to install restricted-modules 2.6.15.27 but i have 2.6.15.26 kernel !!!?
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: have you rebooted yet?
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> welll in konqueror it sais its a shell script
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> I dont see the extention
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> its chopped off
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: you shouldnt be doing anything untill you reboot
[01:27] <firemonkeyballz> visually
[01:27] <smile> c0nv1ct: not yet .. i'm installing nvidia-glx
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: no dont!
[01:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: that will undo the changes we just made
[01:28] <tdn> Can I get installations cds for Kubuntu 7.04?
[01:28] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok
[01:28] <c0nv1ct> smile: reboot first, and see if it works
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> ok... just made my time 8:28... weird?
[01:29] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok .. i will do
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> tdn: you have to download them
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> my whole screen blinked and my audio skipped... never had that problem b4
[01:29] <tdn> nosrednaekim, links?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> !fiesty
[01:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:30] <jake> c0nv1ct: thanx a lot sorry for late reply....
[01:30] <c0nv1ct> jake: everything working now?
[01:30] <oem> what is the command line to check nividia card
[01:30] <thoreauputic> is also @ubuntu-effects
[01:31] <drkm> how do I make window responses better.. e.g moving a window about seems to be a bit laggier compared to say Windows xp.. ?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> um m  #ubuntu-effects sorry
[01:32] <firemonkeyballz> !deerpark
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deerpark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: why are you trying to use an alpha version of firefox?
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> hey it worked fine in windows
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> besides firefox isnt 64 bit
[01:34] <c0nv1ct> it is if you installed the amd64 version of ubuntu
[01:34] <oem> can someone give me the link to the pages that give the repositories page
[01:36] <c0nv1ct> isnt deerpark the old one anyway? i thought minefield was newer
[01:37] <c0nv1ct> even bon echo is newer
[01:38] <warewolf_> anyone here use kbfx?
[01:38] <c0nv1ct> i do
[01:38] <warewolf_> why can't I set a skin?
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> what problem are you having?
[01:39] <warewolf_> all the same lame crap black shiny one even though I supposedly have about 6 installed now
[01:39] <rambo> erm
[01:39] <rambo> can anyone help me with my sound
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> in konqueror I should be able to just click a shell script right?
[01:39] <rambo> i have sb live 24bit
[01:39] <rambo> i set it correct in alsa mixer
[01:39] <rambo> back speakers doesn' play anyway
[01:39] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: i find it best to run shell scripts in a shell :)
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> I kno
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> but every time I do
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: what version are you using?
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> it sais its not there
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> I need to know the exact file name
[01:40] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: 0.4.9.3 from repo
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what are you typing exactly to execute it
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> firefox-installer
[01:40] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try typing ./firefox-installer
[01:40] <genii> put ./
[01:41] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had trouble with that version, i compiled the latest version
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> jeez in suse I didnt need to do that
[01:41] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: there is a new version that came out a couple weeks ago that is a pre-stable version, it runs perfect so far
[01:41] <BluesKaj> Yast sucks tho
[01:42] <c0nv1ct> suse let you run files in the current directory without ./ ??
[01:42] <doomnx> hi guys
[01:42] <c0nv1ct> usually in linux, if you dont explicitly specify the path, it only searches in your PATH variable
[01:43] <c0nv1ct> and by usually, i mean i've never seen it any other way
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> I have
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> took a class
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> they might have configured it that way
[01:43] <c0nv1ct> when i got my degree, we used suse 9, and it wasnt like that then, so i dunno about 10+
[01:44] <genii> c0nv1ct: In *bsd it's the same. I'm pretty sure it's a universal *nix thing
[01:44] <c0nv1ct> genii: i guess it might be possible to set a variable in PATH to always include your current directory
[01:45] <c0nv1ct> though i've never tried
[01:45] <genii> Interesting thing to try :)
[01:45] <c0nv1ct> wonder if it can be done with 'pwd' somehow
[01:46] <doomnx> kubuntu doesn't support OpenGL out of the box does it?
[01:46] <doomnx> i mean there are no 3D drivers, no?
[01:46] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: you'd need to install current drivers for it, if you are an nvidia user... ati is a bit more involved i think
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> umm ok
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> ~/deerpark$ cd firefox-installer
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:~/deerpark/firefox-installer$ ./firefox-installer
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> ./firefox-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so                   .0
[01:47] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: looks like you need to install some dev packages
[01:47] <doomnx> i managed to play UT2004 with OpenGL support, does this mean i installed the drivers correctly?
[01:47] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: yeah, its possible the default drivers work
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> yea buh no clue wich
[01:47] <doomnx> what do u mean by default?
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I have GCC
[01:47] <genii> doomnx: The usual test gor gl in KDE is kdegears
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> by default
[01:48] <doomnx> where is kdegears?
[01:48] <genii> doomnx: If kdegears runs, your GL is fine
[01:48] <firemonkeyballz> so umm I need libgtk-x11-2.0.so
[01:48] <firemonkeyballz> ...
[01:49] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you probably need xorg-dev
[01:49] <doomnx> well... UT2004 runs, isn't it a proof that GL is fine? where can i find kdegears?
[01:49] <genii> doomnx: you should be able to type in a konsole kdegears and it should run. It may be found someplace in the menus, but currently I am not on a KDE box to check where
[01:49] <c0nv1ct> genii: i thought it was glxgears
[01:50] <genii> c0nv1ct: Perhaps :) I am getting them mixed up on occasion
[01:50] <om3ga> how do i partition a flash drive in kubuntu
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: try glxgears
[01:50] <doomnx> thanks genii
[01:50] <doomnx> oh
[01:50] <doomnx> so glxgears
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: or try 'glxinfo | grep version'
[01:50] <doomnx> okay...
[01:50] <c0nv1ct> it should tell you your OpenGL version, if its installed
[01:51] <genii> doomnx: You may want to put glxgears instead of kdegears, yes. You may have both of them on your box even
[01:51] <firemonkeyballz> not the xserver ones right?
[01:51] <Jucato> glxgears | grep -i render
[01:51] <doomnx> but if the driver installation had gone wrong would i be able to play UT?
[01:51] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: not sure, you can install them too if you want, it wont hurt anything
[01:51] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: heh probably not
[01:51] <doomnx> ok that's what i wanted...
[01:51] <doomnx> because i see no NVIDIA logo when kubuntu starts
[01:52] <doomnx> and i've read that i should be seeing one...
[01:52] <firemonkeyballz> eh its required for it
[01:52] <mdtyke> Hey there c0nv1ct.. think Ive solved it for Opera
[01:52] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: i think thats only with newer drivers
[01:52] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Ok, that version won't let me open the configuration... I think I've had enough "do-it-yourself" computing for this week.. =P Back to XP for me
[01:52] <mdtyke> and seemingly Adept.. though its sticking at 99%.. but its better than the 0% I had earlier
[01:52] <mdtyke> basically, I disabled IPv6 completely.. seems my router didn't support it, and so it was conflicting somewhere
[01:52] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it wont let u run ./configure?
[01:53] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no, I can't open it's configure program..
[01:53] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: weird
[01:53] <doomnx> i installed those: nvidia-glx (1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2)
[01:53] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: to set themes etc.... gives me a crash report
[01:53] <space_ninja> Where should I put a icon that I have downloaded and how do I change the firefox icon?
[01:53] <firemonkeyballz> x installed
[01:53] <doomnx> and i installed them offline so i need to know if everything is ok...
[01:53] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: did you remove kbfx from teh panel and re-add it
[01:53] <doomnx> i got no errors
[01:53] <firemonkeyballz> just need to log out or restart x
[01:54] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: because its called something different
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: yes, I removed it, then removed the old version with adept
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: spinx
[01:54] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: sphinx devel?
[01:54] <space_ninja> I mean, where should I put my new icons so the icon selecting thing can see it?
[01:54] <doomnx> something else... is there any explanation for kubuntu freezing when it shuts down?
[01:54] <smile> c0nv1ct: hi .. r u here again ? :-) (soryy to bother u)
[01:54] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no, the applet is called spinx
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you might have an older version then, is it 4.9.3-20070225 ?
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: hi again :)
[01:55] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had a problem with the version before that one
[01:55] <smile> c0nv1ct: i get the following msg "can't load /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia.ko "
[01:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: why my kernel can't load nvidia driver ?
[01:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: you get that at bootup?
[01:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i can't start X server
[01:56] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I used alien to convert the latest rpm off their website, that one won't let into configure it... and the one from repo's won't "take" a theme I try to give it
[01:56] <doomnx> i can't install beryl on kubuntu, can i?
[01:56] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i think the newest version is only available via source
[01:57] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: you can if you want
[01:57] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: nah.. right on their home page they have everything but a DEB
[01:57] <c0nv1ct> smile: man, i dunno, its one error after another
[01:57] <doomnx> i want
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24898
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: thats the latest
[01:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: so no way ? .  :-(
[01:58] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: http://www.kbfx.org/release/0.4.9/testing/ that is latest
[01:58] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yep thats it
[01:59] <doomnx> c0nv1ct can  u tell me how can install beryl?
[01:59] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i installed using the tarball
[01:59] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: if you are using edgy and nvidia card, i can give you a link
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> k
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> back
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> boot seems faster with the dev packages
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> odd
[02:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: anyway .. thnx a lot
[02:00] <doomnx> i use nvidia
[02:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm what to do, everything i find and know about is for edgy :(
[02:00] <doomnx> and edgy
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> ummm still missing package
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[02:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: *i'm not sure*
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> wait
[02:01] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: how do I install with that? drop to console ./install?
[02:01] <doomnx> geforce 6800... can it render beryl effects?
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> they wrote this for gnome
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> arg
[02:01] <smile> c0nv1ct: i think edgy & dapper r similar !!....isn't it ?
[02:01] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[02:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: different kernels, and maybe different xorg versions
[02:01] <firemonkeyballz> lib look at the file name libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> look gnome tool kit
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> logical no?
[02:02] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok friend great thnx 2 u
[02:02] <c0nv1ct> smile: best bet is to post on the forums
[02:02] <c0nv1ct> smile: and keep searching them :\
[02:02] <Jucato> gtk = GIMP Tool Kit, btw
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> o
[02:02] <doomnx> Be prepared for breakage!...
[02:02] <firemonkeyballz> but gimp is installed
[02:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: am not a member!!
[02:03] <Jucato> heh no. I'm just saying what "GTK" stands for :)
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> least I think it is
[02:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: well register! :)
[02:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i'll
[02:03] <doomnx> Not for beginners. great :(
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> ok guess not
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> I'll install gimp
[02:03] <Jucato> doomnx: only for the brave of heart :)
[02:04] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: um.. no need to...
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> well if it has the package
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> and I like gimp
[02:04] <SSJ_GZ> firemonkeyballz: Just install ibgtk2.0-0
[02:04] <Jucato> :D
[02:04] <firemonkeyballz> and planed on getting it
[02:04] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try libgtk2.0-dev package
[02:04] <Jucato> if you want to :)
[02:04] <SSJ_GZ> *lib not ib :)
[02:04] <doomnx> well it requires internet connection to do it :(
[02:04] <Jucato> btw, the -dev packages have nothing to do w/ booting :)
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> lol Jucato, should just let him think its faster :P
[02:05] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: what does this mean: eval: 1: cmake: not found
[02:05] <Jucato> heh
[02:05] <doomnx> i think KDE is faulty...
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it means you dont have cmake :P
[02:05] <firemonkeyballz> Im just saying I dont wanna install something that will conflct with gimp
[02:05] <Jucato> doomnx: why?
[02:05] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: sudo apt-get cmake
[02:05] <doomnx> cause ubuntu shuts down the PC without problem and kubuntu freezes...
[02:05] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: -dev packages don't conflich w/ gimp. the -dev packages don't even have any programs in them
[02:06] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it'll probably ask for more stuff, i had a few error and had to install dev packages for that
[02:06] <Jucato> doomnx: hm? did you know that KDE has nothing to do w/ the boot and shutdown process, though?
[02:06] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: dev packages dont really do anything but take up space, unless you are compiling right?
[02:06] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: yeah. not that much space though. :D
[02:06] <doomnx> i don't know... they say that the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the GUI
[02:07] <firemonkeyballz> u kno I am noticing a speed increase with the dev packages installed
[02:07] <Jucato> doomnx: yes. that's right. and the GUI has nothing to do w/ booting and shutting down :)
[02:07] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: thats what i thought, i never worry about installing them, if something asks for them, they get installed
[02:07] <doomnx> and then what would be the problem?
[02:07] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: was there anything else you installed/updated together w/ the -dev packages? because -dev aren't programs :)
[02:08] <doomnx> kubuntu freezes on Kubuntu screen with gears when it shuts down
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> no just one file
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> it was looking for
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> they didnt give me a readme file
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> so Im just left to you
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:08] <Jucato> doomnx: not really sure. I'm guessing it must be something more kubuntu-specific than KDE
[02:08] <warewolf_> Jucato: Kubuntu hard-locks when using wifi/beryl.. ubuntu does not =P
[02:08] <c0nv1ct> doomnx: its most likely driver related then
[02:08] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: who didn't give you a readme file? that's baaaad...
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> deerpark's website
[02:09] <Jucato> warewolf_: Beryl is not a good measure of stability :)
[02:09] <warewolf_> Jucato: Kubuntu doesn't automount my win partitions.. ubuntu does =P
[02:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you do realize that deer park is old right?
[02:09] <Jucato> warewolf_: it does mine :P
[02:09] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[02:09] <firemonkeyballz> but its fast
[02:09] <doomnx> c0nv1ct i am talking about clean OS installation ( i don't have internet, i can add anything )
[02:09] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: if you want fast, try swiftfox
[02:10] <doomnx> and yes, it was freezing before i installed the nvidia drivers
[02:10] <firemonkeyballz> ok then add fasterfox?
[02:10] <firemonkeyballz> and get faster
[02:10] <c0nv1ct> speaking of swiftfox, anyone know if flash works with it in i386 kernel?
[02:10] <warewolf_> Jucato: I've tried ubuntu and kubuntu 6.06/6.10/7.04 on this system... kde builds don't automount my win partitions on this machine.. craziest thing
[02:10] <c0nv1ct> it didnt work right in amd64
[02:10] <Jucato> warewolf_: crazy machine :D
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm technically I used fasterfox.xpi in windows
[02:11] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yeah, your box is cursed, cuz it automounted for me after install
[02:11] <Pollyo> Any idea if a netgear wireless card can be made to work under kubuntu?
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> for firefox
[02:11] <doomnx> can i do something to shut down properly?
[02:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you can install that in linux if you want
[02:11] <Pollyo> Netgear wg311v3 to be exact.
[02:11] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: who knows.. I have been through about 10 distro's this weekend but I keep coming back to kubuntu
[02:11] <firemonkeyballz> k convlct will swift fox support all xpi
[02:12] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: now cmake wants me to specify a compiler... man you make ton's of work for me
[02:12] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: i'd assume so, its just a rebuilt firefox specificly for your CPU
[02:12] <dystopianray> how can I make kde show unmounted removeable drives on the desktop?
[02:13] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: unmounted? you could just make a link to the mount point
[02:13] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no i mean, dynamically using hal
[02:13] <Jucato> dystopianray: right-click on desktop, Configure Desktop -> Behavior options -> Device Icons tab?
[02:13] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: dynamically linking unmounted drives?
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know why Im not allowed to use composit mode on ati specific cards
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> i guess i dont understand
[02:14] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no... just showing unmounted devices, exactly like how it shows mounted devices, but with unmounted devices too
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: cuz ati sucks at linux :P
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> o
[02:14] <dystopianray> Jucato: there is no option for showing unmounted removeable drives
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> well I cant wait for transparency
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: i see unmounted floppies
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> natively
[02:14] <Jucato> dystopianray: er... how would it do that anyway?
[02:14] <crazy_bus> I just reinstalled kubuntu and for some reason kaffeine is playing up.  Even though I have libxvidcore, libmp4 etc installed.  Xvid's and mp4's aren't playing.  What should I do?
[02:14] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: in those options
[02:15] <doomnx> sorry i got d/c
[02:15] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: I'm not talking about floppy disks, I mean removeable usb drives and sd cards
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> oh and I still keep getting mixer errors at shutdown
[02:15] <c0nv1ct> crazy_bus: have you installed the libxine-extracodecs package?
[02:15] <doomnx> i asked what is your opinion about Mandriva 2007 PowerPack+?
[02:15] <ubuntu> HELLO, i have a problem i cant hear any sound in kubuntu i did hear the welcome sound but in amarok i dont hear sound
[02:16] <Jucato> ubuntu: are you trying to play an MP3 on a fresh installation?
[02:16] <dystopianray> Jucato: it only has to show devices that are present but not mounted, vanilla kde does it, kubuntu's kde has been modified not to do it
[02:16] <firemonkeyballz> ubunto bot I can hear sound you dolt
[02:16] <ubuntu> its an internet radio stream
[02:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Thanks for your time / help... I've had about all the goofing around for an OS I can take.. I've lost most of my weekend already trying to get away from windows and I'm no closer now then I started =P
[02:16] <doomnx> oh, how can i make my MP3 player to work in Kubuntu?
[02:16] <Jucato> ubuntu: ah, then you need the codecs to play the type of media it is streaming
[02:16] <Jucato> !mp3 | doomnx
[02:16] <ubotu> doomnx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: maybe try again next week :)
[02:16] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: lol, i feel ya man, take your time, dont try to fix it all today :)
[02:17] <ubuntu> it is playing Jucato i can see it but no sound
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: if you're on Kubuntu Edgy, just simply try playing an MP3 and it will start a script to install the codecs
[02:17] <doomnx> i mean my portable mp3 player
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: aaah..
[02:17] <ubuntu> Jucato:  its more complex
[02:17] <Jucato> doomnx: just plug it in?
[02:17] <doomnx> i installed libxine extracodecs
[02:17] <dystopianray> doomnx: what brand/model is it?
[02:17] <doomnx> transfer files etc
[02:17] <ubuntu> i am using kubuntu in vmware beta 6 with vista ultimate as host os
[02:17] <doomnx> Creative Zen MicroPhoto
[02:17] <dystopianray> doomnx: does it support MTP?
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: can you give a link?
[02:18] <Jucato> oh.. hm...
[02:18] <doomnx> yeah on windows it says MPT Media Player or sth
[02:18] <ubuntu> link?
[02:18] <doomnx> it's like the iPod
[02:18] <dystopianray> doomnx: amarok should be able ot handle it then
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: so that I could try to see if it will play here
[02:18] <doomnx> when i connected once it was recognised as a camera
[02:18] <doomnx> :S
[02:18] <dystopianray> doomnx: yeah MTP is a modification of PTP which is used in cameras
[02:18] <ubuntu> i dont have a link its just a stream in amarok
[02:18] <Jucato> ubuntu: but just in case, have you installed libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs (need to manually download this one)
[02:19] <crazy_bus> c0nv1ct: thanks.  I had the thing downloaded in apt but for some reason it didn't install.  It works now :)
[02:19] <Jucato> ubuntu: ah the built-in ones? which one?
[02:19] <doomnx> so if i connect it and open Amarok it will work?
[02:19] <c0nv1ct> crazy_bus: nice!
[02:19] <ubuntu> urban species
[02:19] <ubuntu> now
[02:19] <dystopianray> doomnx: open amarok and connect it, amarok should bring up a dialog
[02:19] <ubuntu> Frequence 3[Pop] 
[02:19] <ubuntu> thats the one
[02:20] <Jucato> ubuntu: ok let me check
[02:20] <ubuntu> but its the same for all that i have tried
[02:20] <doomnx> and it has an option to work as a removable drive, can it work like that on kubuntu so i can transfer files between kubuntu and windows?
[02:20] <c0nv1ct> is anyone using swiftfox here?
[02:20] <firemonkeyballz> grr swift fox is givving me a permission denied
[02:20] <firemonkeyballz> and im in root
[02:20] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: permission to do what?
[02:21] <student> czesc zasrance
[02:21] <Jucato> ubuntu: it plays fine here. please try installing libxine-extracodecs here
[02:21] <dystopianray> doomnx: it can work like a usb mass storage device?
[02:21] <firemonkeyballz> just run the stupid thing
[02:21] <student> ssijcie kutasa!!
[02:21] <doomnx> dystopianray on windows yeah :)
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <Jucato> !pl | student
[02:21] <ubotu> student: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <firemonkeyballz> bash: ./install-swiftfox.sh: Permission denied
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <student> suck my dick
[02:21] <firemonkeyballz> someone kick student
[02:21] <dystopianray> doomnx: so it should do the same on linux
[02:21] <doomnx> but it didn't... i think it can't read the file format...
[02:22] <dystopianray> doomnx: are you sure it's not just some windows driver that is giving you the illusion of usb mass storage? when it's really MTP or some other protocol working behind the scenes?
[02:22] <ubuntu> Jucato: how do i need to set kmix?
[02:22] <Jucato> ubuntu: what do you mean?
[02:23] <doomnx> well... i don't know... i didn't install any driver...
[02:23] <ubuntu> i think it might be a setting there
[02:23] <doomnx> just set it for removable disc and plug it on any windows xp system and then it works
[02:23] <Jucato> ubuntu: kmix is in the system tray. just click it or right-click
[02:23] <dystopianray> doomnx: well set it to removeable disc and plug it into a linux system
[02:24] <ubuntu> Jucato: werd thing is that on pclinusos sound in linux does work
[02:24] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: you actually got an installer with your swiftfox?
[02:24] <doomnx> i did that and i can't find it anywhere
[02:24] <doomnx> http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=14107
[02:24] <doomnx> this is the player
[02:24] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: mine appears to be pre-compiled, which is weird, since last time it wasnt
[02:24] <Jucato> ubuntu: w/ the same internet streaming radio?
[02:24] <Jucato> ubuntu: pclos comes w/ all the codecs installed already. kubuntu doesn't
[02:24] <ubuntu> and i can hear system sounds Jucato
[02:25] <dystopianray> doomnx: did you check dmesg to see if anything appeared?
[02:25] <ubuntu> this is so werd
[02:25] <Jucato> ubuntu: which is why I'm saying it might be a codec issue
[02:25] <ubuntu> might?
[02:25] <ubuntu> you mean it could be anything
[02:25] <Jucato> ubuntu: System Sounds use .ogg files. streaming audio usually use mp3, aac or wma
[02:25] <doomnx> dystopianray no i don't know it... sorry i am a newbie
[02:25] <ubuntu> so what should i download now?
[02:26] <firemonkeyballz> fixed it
[02:26] <Jucato> !mp3 | ubuntu
[02:26] <ubotu> ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:26] <firemonkeyballz> swift fox will now run
[02:26] <firemonkeyballz> just had to make it exicutable
[02:26] <dystopianray> doomnx: plug in the device, run 'dmesg' on a terminal and see if it mentions a newly plugged in usb mass storage device
[02:26] <c0nv1ct> well crap, no flash in swiftfox, gotta figure that out
[02:26] <ubuntu> ok ty
[02:26] <firemonkeyballz> dwha
[02:26] <firemonkeyballz> no flash?
[02:26] <payam> hi
[02:26] <payam> Hi
[02:27] <payam> Does anyone know how i zan open a RAR file?
[02:27] <firemonkeyballz> ok now ls
[02:27] <Jucato> payam: install the "unrar" package, then you can open them in Ark
[02:27] <c0nv1ct> payam: use the unrar command
[02:27] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: i thought unrar was installed by default
[02:27] <payam> what should i write in Terminal to download the package?
[02:28] <firemonkeyballz> ok how do I make a menu item for swiftfox?
[02:28] <c0nv1ct> payam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:28] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: nope. because it's in multiverse
[02:28] <c0nv1ct> Jucato: ohhh
[02:28] <Jucato> c0nv1ct: neither is unrar-free
[02:28] <firemonkeyballz> nm
[02:28] <firemonkeyballz> sigh
[02:28] <payam> you
[02:29] <payam> zan you connect me to ubuntu.se?
[02:29] <payam> it sayes sudo apt-get install unrar is wrong
[02:29] <doomnx> dystopianray i saw once when i ran fdisk -l
[02:29] <doomnx> but it appeared lots of errors i thing
[02:29] <doomnx> think
[02:29] <doomnx> something about cylinders or sth
[02:29] <dystopianray> doomnx: what errors?
[02:30] <dystopianray> doomnx: and what did you see?
[02:30] <doomnx> i just couldn't mount it from system settings
[02:30] <payam> * ubuntu .se
[02:30] <doomnx> i think it doesn't use FAT32 but something related to NTFS
[02:31] <payam> Do you know Matias?
[02:31] <firemonkeyballz> better question where is swiftfox installed
[02:31] <payam> I wana talk with him
[02:31] <firemonkeyballz> cuz it didnt put it in the menu
[02:31] <payam> bkz i have a swedish version av kubuntu
[02:31] <Jucato> !se | payam
[02:31] <ubotu> payam: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:32] <payam> #ubuntu-se
[02:32] <fernando> how can I share files in linux with another person with windows???
[02:32] <dystopianray> fernando: over a network? generally you'd use samba
[02:33] <payam> nobod there
[02:33] <ubuntu> Jucato: where can i find a preconfigured kubuntu os for vmware?
[02:33] <payam> can i open a rar file with an other way?
[02:33] <dystopianray> payam: unrar x blah.rar on a terminal
[02:33] <Jucato> ubuntu: in the vmware appliances page. I think there's a premade one
[02:33] <ubuntu> ok
[02:33] <payam> can you say what i should write in terminal?
[02:33] <Jucato> payam: you can try if the unrar-free package will open it for you: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[02:34] <dystopianray> payam: unrar x blah.rar
[02:34] <payam> no it doesnt work
[02:35] <dystopianray> payam: do you have unrar installed?
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> doesnt ARK support rar?
[02:35] <payam> No
[02:35] <dystopianray> payam: well install it already
[02:35] <payam> How?
[02:35] <Jucato> payam: if you don't have any unrar utility installed, you won't be able to unrar anything
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> payam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:35] <payam> Im a bigginer in Linux
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> i could of swore i already said that :P
[02:35] <payam> how can i install it
[02:35] <payam> Its that i ask you about
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> payam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:35] <c0nv1ct> type that in the console
[02:36] <fernando> dystopianray: samba let me create accounts and people can connected??
[02:36] <dystopianray> if he's a begginner he probably doesn't have have multiverse enabled
[02:36] <dystopianray> fernando: yes, just like windows, standard smb filesharing
[02:36] <payam> anyone can swedish here
[02:36] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: yeah, you wanna walk him through that? or installing it from rarlabs.com? :P
[02:36] <payam> bkz i cant translate these...
[02:37] <payam> what should i do right now?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !se
[02:37] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:39] <mdtyke> Hey.. Im having a little problem.  When I go into hibernate/suspend, and come back, my mouse driver appears to have conked out.  Using synaptics touchpad.  Anyone any ideas?
[02:39] <space_ninja> what's the extesion name for vector graphic pictures?
[02:39] <dystopianray> space_ninja: there are many extensions for the many vector graphic picture formats
[02:40] <space_ninja> can I save vector pictures with kolourpaint?
[02:40] <fernando> dystopianray: thanks.. another question.. wich package shoud I install?? because with "samba" on adept I get many possiblites
[02:40] <dystopianray> space_ninja: does it have an svg option?
[02:40] <dystopianray> fernando: I'm not to sure just 'samba' i imagine
[02:40] <Jucato> space_ninja: no, I don't think so
[02:41] <fernando> dystopianray: okis..thanks again.. :-)
[02:41] <dystopianray> space_ninja: you'll probably want something like inkscape for vector graphics
[02:41] <space_ninja> ok
[02:41] <dystopianray> fernando: I am a kubuntu newcomer myself, so still working some things out
[02:41] <genii> mdtyke: You may find something helpful here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/22931
[02:42] <fernando> dystopianray: my too :-)
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> ummm... how do I get swiftfox to run
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> it didnt show up in the menu
[02:42] <dystopianray> why does nethack have it's own init script??
[02:42] <azaraelus> hi@all
[02:43] <mdtyke> I don't think that's the same bug.  It says its fixed in Edgy; and I'm running Edgy.. sorry, forgot to state which version I was using
[02:43] <mdtyke> It may be an underlying ACPI problem though.  I'm using a laptop, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do that variable CPU frequency (throttling) thing.. my battery barely lasts anymore
[02:45] <doomnx> well if anyone has any solution to Kubuntu freezing when it shuts down plz tell me
[02:45] <doomnx> sometimes it will show an out of range monitor message
[02:45] <firemonkeyballz> gahhhh
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> no wonder I cant run it
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> its owned by root
[02:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi guys!
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[02:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> im back! hehehe With Ubuntu 6.10 + Beryl
[02:46] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: still working on swiftfox?
[02:46] <azaraelus> i have a question: i don't know the root-password, because i haven't anything specified. is there a standard-password? i want to install something with su
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> wont run
[02:46] <dystopianray> azaraelus: there is no root password, use sudo
[02:46] <firemonkeyballz> and its not in the menu
[02:47] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you can just do sudo su, and enter your user password
[02:47] <space_ninja> I can't see the pixels in vector graphic, and I'm into pixel art, I need to measure everything.. :)
[02:47] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: that will give you an actual root prompt, if you really need it
[02:47] <azaraelus> ok thank you
[02:48] <firemonkeyballz> why is root taking ownership of every file I create
[02:48] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[02:49] <firemonkeyballz> well reinstall
[02:49] <azaraelus> where can i change the rights for /etc/tor/torrc? i want to add something
[02:49] <doomnx> LaNCeloT_RW is it good?
[02:50] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you can use chown or chmod to modify the rights
[02:50] <doomnx> is there any lcd monitor calibration software for kubuntu?
[02:50] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: or you can use sudo to do it
[02:50] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, LOL
[02:50] <azaraelus> c0nv1ct, but how? i'm linux beginner and don't know anything
[02:50] <doomnx> no? :S
[02:51] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, Yes, this is hehehe 2 weeks waitin' for this
[02:51] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: use the command 'sudo' before any command to assume root rights for that command
[02:51] <doomnx> yeah i bet beryl rocks
[02:51] <c0nv1ct> !sudo
[02:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:51] <doomnx> what does sh do?
[02:51] <doomnx> is it like run?
[02:51] <genii> azaraelus: For simple, in a konsole type: kdesu kate     then open it in that editor and save it back
[02:52] <doomnx> i used it to install UT2004
[02:52] <doomnx> is there any lcd monitor calibration software for kubuntu?
[02:52] <azaraelus> ok, thank you. i will test it ;)
[02:53] <dystopianray> doomnx: what sort of calibration are you talking about? colour calibration?
[02:53] <azaraelus> kdesu: command not found
[02:53] <doomnx> gamma/colour u know
[02:54] <doomnx> cause i think my screen favors blue a bit more :P
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: 'sudo apt-get install kdesu' to install it
[02:54] <dystopianray> doomnx: well there is the gamma correction tab in the monitor section of system settings
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: you must of installed Ubuntu not Kubuntu then?
[02:54] <genii> azaraelus: You are in the kubuntu channel. Do you have KDE desktop?
[02:54] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: if you are in gnome, use gksudo, and go to #ubuntu :P
[02:54] <LaNCeloT_RW> doomnx, yes man, Beryls is nice :>
[02:55] <genii> c0nv1ct: thx
[02:55] <azaraelus> yes, i use gnome. thank you and bye bye
[02:55] <doomnx> yeah i've seen that tab, how do u use it?
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> azaraelus: hehe np
[02:55] <dystopianray> doomnx: you move the sliders and it change the gamma target until it's how you like it
[02:55] <corveum> c0nv1ct: All very useful, still can't mount a samba share... ugh
[02:55] <doomnx> no, it has some squares above it
[02:55] <c0nv1ct> corveum: you are still workn on that? i'm about to start testing it on my end
[02:56] <c0nv1ct> corveum: are you trying to connect to a XP machine?
[02:56] <dystopianray> doomnx: it says to adjust them until the squares blend into the background as much as possible
[02:56] <doomnx> u should somehow match those colours or what?
[02:56] <doomnx> they have different colour, how could they blend? :S
[02:57] <corveum> c0nv1ct: That's next... I'm just trying to connect to the Windows 2000 fileserver on my Active Directory Windows network
[02:57] <dystopianray> doomnx: blend as much as possible
[02:57] <doomnx> omg, that's the huge disadvantage of using lcds...
[02:57] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ahh, that should be the easy part :)
[02:57] <doomnx> the one is yellow and the other blue in my PC... i can't blend those 2 :S
[02:57] <dystopianray> doomnx: 'as much as possible'
[02:57] <doomnx> and why is the gamma 2.0? is there some particular reason?
[02:58] <dystopianray> doomnx: no, change it to whatever you prefer
[02:58] <doomnx> okay...
[02:58] <doomnx> thanks a lot
[02:58] <dystopianray> doomnx: there are probably gamma correction pages online that are more effective than those squares
[02:59] <doomnx> u've been a great help once again ( i know about those pages, i did a lot of research on windows and i concluded on hardware calibration suits or multi-point gamma correction programs)
[02:59] <doomnx> whatever see you guys
[03:02] <fernando> someone here know how to use samba????
[03:02] <dorshin> i have added an additional panel,and trying to change the additional panel configuration but i cant find it?(fresh edgy installation)
[03:02] <dystopianray> fernando: if you go into the filesharing section of the system settings and configure it to let anyone share folders, then you can right click on folders in konq and go to 'share'
[03:02] <dystopianray> fernando: assuming you have 'samba' installed I guess
[03:04] <dorshin> when i right click and select configure panel,it works just for main panel.
[03:04] <Jucato> dorshin: you need to restart the panel. Press Alt+F2, type in: dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:05] <dorshin> is it just a single command?
[03:05] <dorshin> first "dcop kicker" later "kicker restart"?
[03:05] <fernando> dystopianray: do you know any gui for a ssh client??? a good one?
[03:06] <dystopianray> fernando: konsole ?
[03:06] <Jucato> dorshin: one command
[03:06] <Jucato> dorshin: dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:06] <dorshin> ok let me try.
[03:06] <dystopianray> fernando: or do you mean for copying files? use the fish:/ ioslave in konq
[03:07] <fernando> dystopianray: no.. a program with a interface..
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: or if you're talking about windows, use putty
[03:07] <fernando> dystopianray: for linux
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: no idea, maybe putty runs on linux, I don't know
[03:07] <dystopianray> fernando: what is hard about typing 'ssh user@host' ?
[03:07] <dorshin> it is ok Jucato,
[03:07] <dorshin> thank you.
[03:08] <BackwardsDown> there is a putty version for linux
[03:08] <BackwardsDown> its handy, becouse it save's your preferences
[03:09] <BackwardsDown> putty is in the repro
[03:09] <Vedo> hi to all
[03:09] <Vedo> ciao a tutti
[03:09] <BackwardsDown> Vedo: hi
[03:10] <Jucato> just in case...
[03:10] <Jucato> !it
[03:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:11] <firemonkeyballz> seems I have the same problem with firefox
[03:11] <firemonkeyballz> aka deerpark
[03:11] <Vedo> ubotu, Thanks for the info
[03:12] <firemonkeyballz> !libgtk
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <firemonkeyballz> !libraries gtk
[03:12] <dystopianray> is there an rss feed or something that i can subscribe to, to find out about package updates in edgy?
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <c0nv1ct> corveum: woot, got samba working, with rw permissions
[03:13] <firemonkeyballz> convlct does it work on ntfs ?
[03:13] <c0nv1ct> its a samba share
[03:13] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, in the terminal , sudo apt-get update ...that way you update your repositories and hence any pkges that are upodated on the repos as well
[03:13] <c0nv1ct> and the share is on a ntfs partition on the XP machine
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[03:14] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: but I want an rss feed or something to tell me when I should be updating
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> good then I can burn all my data from here
[03:14] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[03:15] <c0nv1ct> i gotta figure out how to add it to fstab, without it showing my password in plain text now
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> dood  I needed the glade common files
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> or
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> something Im not sure
[03:16] <firemonkeyballz> havent installed anything yet
[03:16] <fernando> dystopianray: bassically, because in the ege of windows interface, I get the feel I am losing my time with this command...
[03:17] <dystopianray> fernando: what command?
[03:17] <dystopianray> oh ssh
[03:17] <fernando> dystopianray: all this linux command for every think.. :-p
[03:17] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, just do the cmnd once a day , should be sufficient
[03:17] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: are packages updated once a day?
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: for example, is a command line program for ssh... but.. I have to read about the command to use them
[03:18] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: how much does it download on each update?
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: an so on..
[03:18] <dystopianray> fernando: ssh user@host
[03:18] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, dunno
[03:18] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: adept has a notifier that runs in the background, is that what you want?
[03:18] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: no I hate adept
[03:18] <fernando> dystopianray: and then what???
[03:18] <dystopianray> fernando: and then type in your password
[03:18] <fernando> and then what?
[03:18] <dystopianray> and then do whatever you want
[03:19] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: you hate it so much, you wouldnt let it atleast notify you?
[03:19] <dystopianray> fernando: what do you want to use ssh for?
[03:19] <dystopianray> fernando: you can start X applicaitons through ssh, you can use the terminal, you can use konq for ssh file transfers
[03:19] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: it doesnt actually force you to use adept manager
[03:19] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: how does it notify me? is it sitting there running apt-get update?
[03:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi dudes.. someone here send me 3 weeks ago a link to download via torrent a software called: CrossOver
[03:20] <BluesKaj> that notifier is annoying I turned it off a long time ago cuz it bugs you to "upgrade" as well as "update" and upgrading changes driver settings if yer not really careful.
[03:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone knows this link?
[03:20] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: no, it just sits in your task bar, and then turns into a pic of a package when there are updates
[03:20] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: how does it determine if an update is available?
[03:20] <dystopianray> I'd prefer a mailing list or rss feed
[03:20] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: i'm sure it polls the repos
[03:20] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: use google
[03:20] <firemonkeyballz> convlct im still missing something from hte gtk
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is it asking for?
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> swift wont run as the same as deerpark wont run
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what is the error?
[03:21] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, thx man.. i did it :>
[03:21] <danychouinard> My computer did not change time this night (for the new daylight time save) what did I miss, I thought *nix systems were not having trouble with that
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:21] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[03:21] <c0nv1ct> danychouinard: mine updated fine
[03:22] <fernando> so.. I am connected to a server with the command line, how do I send a file to the server with commands??
[03:22] <dystopianray> danychouinard: they don't have trouble as long as your timezone definitions are up to date
[03:22] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone know a good bittorrent download manager?
[03:22] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: ktorrent comes with kubuntu
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> /pm convlct
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:22] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[03:22] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: try 'find /usr/lib | grep libgtk' and see if its in there
[03:22] <danychouinard> How do I check my timezone definition,  I only know it is related to tzdata package
[03:23] <c0nv1ct> danychouinard: run 'zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007' and see if it says march 11th
[03:23] <firemonkeyballz> /pm cOnvlct
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$ find /usr/lib | grep libgtk
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.20
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, i use ubuntu by this time
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.la
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.a
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so
[03:24] <firemonkeyballz> f
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> gnome + Beryl
[03:24] <BluesKaj> danychouinard, right click on the clock /configure clock/timezones
[03:24] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: #ubuntu might be more help to you
[03:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, ok man.. tnx
[03:25] <fernando> dystopianray: I am connected to a server with ssh (terminal)..how can I send a file from my hard disk to the server???
[03:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: use pastebin next time, but see if swiftbox needs you to specify your lib directory
[03:25] <firemonkeyballz> k
[03:25] <dystopianray> fernando: use konqueror
[03:25] <dystopianray> fernando: fish://user@host
[03:26] <dystopianray> or just fish://host and it asks for a username:password i think
[03:26] <firemonkeyballz> so edit the shell script?
[03:27] <baltazar>  !
[03:28] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: are you running swiftfox-bin or swiftfox?
[03:28] <firemonkeyballz> swiftfox
[03:28] <danychouinard> Well, My timezone is ok ( Montreal) but still beleive we're EDT
[03:28] <dystopianray> what is swiftfox?
[03:28] <baltazar>    =)       2  
[03:28] <Jucato> baltazar: English please
[03:28] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: some nonfree firefox build, thats faster
[03:29] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: faster at rendering?
[03:29] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: its specific builds for your CPU, it does run faster on my system
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !ru
[03:29] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:29] <firemonkeyballz> either way I run it from the directory or the menu
[03:29] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: just setting -march during compilation?
[03:29] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: faster loading, rendering, and it seems, browsing even
[03:29] <firemonkeyballz> wont run
[03:30] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: have you benchmarked it's performance relative to vanilla firefox?
[03:30] <masai> alguien que me ayde en espaol
[03:30] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: not yet, but i'm sure someone else has
[03:30] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:30] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: you cant run them side by side, wich would make it a bit easier to test
[03:30] <masai> alguien que me ayude en espaol
[03:30] <Jucato> !es | masai
[03:31] <ubotu> masai: please see above
[03:31] <corveum> c0nv1ct: any luck with a mount yet?
[03:31] <masai> gggracias
[03:31] <c0nv1ct> corveum: yep, works perfect :)
[03:31] <corveum> Pointers?
[03:31] <c0nv1ct> corveum: are you connecting to XP or 2k?
[03:32] <corveum> 2k
[03:32] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ah ok, u should be fine then, i'll give ya the syntax i used to mount
[03:33] <c0nv1ct> corveum: sudo mount -t smbfs -o gid=1000,uid=1000,username=whatever,password=blah //192.168.189.128/share /media/share
[03:33] <c0nv1ct> corveum: using gid= and uid= for my linux user account was the only way i found to let me write, though there may be another way
[03:34] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i havent tested it in fstab, cuz my only XP box is in vmware :)
[03:36] <corveum> c0nv1ct: Now that works
[03:36] <corveum> c0nv1ct: muchas gracias
[03:37] <c0nv1ct> corveum: np man, i dont remember having to use UID and GID before, but w/e it works
[03:38] <corveum> c0nv1ct: any time you want come to Vietnam and work for peanuts, just let me know
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> is there some sort of deltree command?
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> in linux
[03:38] <dystopianray> firephoto: rm -rf
[03:38] <dystopianray> err firemonkeyballz that was meant for
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> thanx
[03:38] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: use it carefully :P
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> I ko
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> dont delete anything your mother would
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> sorta thing
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I used rmdir with the not empty option before
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> didnt work to well
[03:40] <firemonkeyballz> think it just removed the symbolic links for that folder
[03:40] <corveum> c0nv1ct: speaking of  VM what do you need installed to make a new VM Machine?
[03:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i use the actual vmware workstation
[03:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: the vmware server app is free, but i've never used it
[03:42] <corveum> c0nv1ct: Yeah, I have server downloaded, but again, all command line, no idea how to get around it, or if it suports creating VM machines
[03:42] <dystopianray> corveum: there are websites that will create a vm machine for you for free, for use in vmware player
[03:42] <fernando> how can I zip a file with password???
[03:42] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i think 'server' is for prebuilt vmware machines,
[03:42] <dystopianray> corveum: you start the vmware server daemon and then use the gui frontend to control it
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !VMWare
[03:43] <firemonkeyballz> think im going to make an alias for that command so I dont forget it
[03:43] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[03:43] <c0nv1ct> yeah, player is just for prebuilt too
[03:43] <dystopianray> no server can create machines
[03:43] <matrix> hi, i can not read my windows drives as a user. but in /etc/fstab i have user,rw as options. What can i do?
[03:43] <dystopianray> and there are websites that will create custom machines for you, for use in player
[03:43] <fernando> HOW CAN I ZIP A FILE WITH PASSWORD???
[03:43] <dystopianray> matrix: you need to specify a umask
[03:44] <corveum> c0nv1ct: You see the whole reason I decided to try Linux again after 7 years away is because Windows Server 2003 wasn't stable on my Acer laptop
[03:44] <dystopianray> fernando: shouting is only going to piss people off
[03:44] <BluesKaj> matrix install ntfs-3g
[03:44] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g | matrix
[03:44] <ubotu> matrix: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> fernando: use -P
[03:44] <fernando> dystopianray: you dont have to answer the question and thats all :-)
[03:44] <c0nv1ct> fernando: use 'man' bro
[03:45] <dystopianray> fernando: if you read the zip man page you'd have found your answer within seconds
[03:45] <firemonkeyballz> fernando info works too
[03:45] <c0nv1ct> fernando: i found the answer in 5 seconds by typing 'man zip' and scrolling down a couple pages
[03:45] <dystopianray> c0nv1ct: -P is insecure
[03:45] <dystopianray> -e should be used
[03:45] <corveum> c0nv1ct: and I need to run windows server for my software development (no drivers available for 2000 server, so that was out)
[03:46] <matrix> BluesKaj: thx for the hint. do you think i also should install it if i realy only need read access
[03:46] <fernando> am sorry, my question is without the command line..
[03:46] <c0nv1ct> dystopianray: only if someone else has access to your machine's prompt
[03:46] <dystopianray> matrix: no you don't need it, you only need to specify a umask
[03:46] <fernando> doesnt have linux interfaces???
[03:46] <matrix> BluesKaj: i can not even enter the directory as a normal user after mounting it
[03:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, where can i find a website to search and download software that are in .deb extension?
[03:46] <dystopianray> matrix: ntfs has no unix permissions, the defaults are overly restrictive
[03:46] <BluesKaj> !fuser | matrix
[03:46] <dystopianray> LaNCeloT_RW: google
[03:46] <LaNCeloT_RW> dystopianray, k
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <dystopianray> matrix: mount -o umask=022 /dev/blah /blah, i believe that should work
[03:47] <matrix> dystopianray: the dir i mount my win partition to is rwx for all user before the mount after the mount only root has dr-x
[03:47] <dystopianray> matrix: the mountpoint's permissions are irrelevant
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !fuse
[03:47] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:48] <matrix> dystopianray: when i don't want to do this each time manually I still have to put it in fstab or did there anything change about it?
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> corveum: why were u running a server platform on a laptop?
[03:48] <dystopianray> matrix: yes you must always specify a umask
[03:48] <c0nv1ct> corveum: nm i read further
[03:48] <matrix> dystopianray: my line in fstab is:
[03:49] <dystopianray> matrix: just add umask=022 to the options part
[03:49] <matrix> "/dev/sda5       /media/windows2 auto     user,rw                 0       0"
[03:49] <dystopianray> user,rw,umask=022
[03:49] <matrix> dystopianray: i always thought it is covered by rw. strange could swear it worked before
[03:50] <dystopianray> matrix: no, it's handled by umask
[03:50] <dystopianray> matrix: iirc, rw is the default where ro is not specified
[03:51] <matrix> dystopianray: added umask=022 and did umount and mount as user. still no access...
[03:51] <dystopianray> matrix: what are the permissions on that filesystem?
[03:52] <firemonkeyballz> ok thats it Im getting a deb package
[03:52] <matrix> dystopianray: what do you mean? the fs is ntfs, i only want to read it. my fstab line i already gave you. what additional information can i give you?
[03:52] <dystopianray> matrix: the permissions on the directory you can't access
[03:53] <matrix> ls -al output after mounting?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[03:53] <matrix> dr-x------  1 root   root
[03:53] <timothy_> hello
[03:53] <roberto> hi
[03:53] <Dr_willis> Hello./
[03:54] <timothy_> what is the sudo string to mount drive b
[03:54] <dystopianray> matrix: what about if you run the 'mount' command, does it show the umask=022 as a mount option?
[03:54] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: you first have to find out what device drive b is
[03:54] <corveum> Anybody got a favorite GUI xhtml editor?
[03:54] <timothy_> it is my secondary hd
[03:55] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: use fdisk -l to find out what device it is
[03:55] <timothy_> isnt it like /pmount/hdb    ?
[03:55] <timothy_> i already know the device
[03:55] <c0nv1ct> probably not
[03:55] <firemonkeyballz> umm someone said they had fixed the flash in the swiftfox forums
[03:55] <matrix> dystopianray: when i mount it i just use mount /media/windows2 i don't get any output there. is there a verbose mode? or do you mean somewhere else?
[03:56] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: if its hdb, then it will be /dev/hdb1 if its the first partition on that drive
[03:56] <timothy_> thank you con
[03:56] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: you wil have to specify the filesystem type, so is it ntfs? fat32?
[03:56] <timothy_> ntfs
[03:57] <timothy_> i know i can only read from it
[03:57] <timothy_> i just forgot the string to get to it
[03:57] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: then type 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 or where ever you want it mounted
[03:57] <corveum> c0nv1ct: We develop a web based java application (unfortunately it is normalized on MS SQL currently, moving to open source soon) - so I need server to run and develop
[03:57] <mdtyke> Does anyone use KFTPGrabber.. excellent piece of software, but I noticed on kde-apps that it states "view/editing" of remote files
[03:57] <c0nv1ct> corveum: eww, ms sql
[03:58] <timothy_> ok so niether of those strings are working
[03:58] <mdtyke> Now, that's actually why I wanted it.. so I could do that (like Cute), but I cant actually see it in the drop down menu?  Anyone have any ideas where this feature is?
[03:58] <c0nv1ct> corveum: is vmware good enough to work with your sql apps?
[03:58] <timothy_> mount /media/
[03:58] <timothy_> is that correct?
[03:58] <c0nv1ct> corveum: that would probably be the best option, rather than runing the server OS natively
[03:58] <corveum> c0nv1ct: everything in Vietnam is MS because it costs $0.45 for any program you want
[03:59] <c0nv1ct> corveum: ahh yes, the good old asian conterfeit market :P
[03:59] <matrix> dystopianray: when i manually execute sudo mount -o umask=022 /dev/sda5 windows2 it work
[03:59] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i got some good rolex knock-offs from china
[04:00] <corveum> c0nv1ct: is it good enough... ask me that when I ever get it all working
[04:00] <rlj> in kubuntu edgy, is the system supposed to by default mount removable devices? cause mine does now, and i seem to remember it just giving me the kde notification dialog and *then* if i opened it in konq for example, it would automatically mount it upon access.. now, if i hit cancel in the dialog (for a cd for example) it mounts it after nevertheless...
[04:00] <c0nv1ct> corveum: if you need any "information" on vmware workstation, let me know
[04:00] <RadiantFire> rlj: it mounts it
[04:01] <rlj> i am having trouble burning cd's (burning suddenly stops and k3b fails, and i'm thinking it might be related if some automount util or hal or something messes with the drive in the middle of the burning)
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> you kno it wasnt as hard to install stuff as I would on my DSL damn small linux
[04:01] <RadiantFire> rlj: I don't think so, because I've burned successfully
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> install
[04:01] <RadiantFire> rlj: have you tried k3bsetup?
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> buh
[04:01] <teufel> can someone tell me how to install a .bin file
[04:01] <firemonkeyballz> not shure what they did
[04:01] <teufel> more to the point planeshift
[04:01] <corveum> So no one has a favorite GUI based xhtml editor?
[04:01] <RadiantFire> I do
[04:01] <RadiantFire> Quanta :-)
[04:01] <rlj> RadiantFire: what happens if you insert a written cd and hit cancel in the kde dialog, does it still instantly mount it?
[04:02] <Xanith> Anyone possibly have a second to help me try to figure out why wine won't compile?
[04:02] <RadiantFire> !info kdewebdev
[04:02] <ubotu> kdewebdev: web development apps from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:02] <smile_> c0nv1ct: hi .. :-)
[04:02] <rlj> RadiantFire: yeah, set up the permissions in k3bsetup, the burning still failrd
[04:02] <RadiantFire> it mounts it automatically
[04:02] <corveum> RadiantFire: I'll check it out... does it have full unicode support?
[04:02] <RadiantFire> rlj: you can manually unmount it though
[04:02] <RadiantFire> corveum: I've never checked
[04:02] <rlj> RadiantFire: why does it mount it, i'm sure it didn't when i had dapper
[04:03] <RadiantFire> rlj: new version of KDE maybe, or a patch
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: do you know what piece of software is responsible for mounting?
[04:03] <RadiantFire> rlj: you can still manually unmount it
[04:03] <RadiantFire> right click on the device and hit unmount
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: is it in kde itself or in some automounter util?
[04:03] <RadiantFire> its KDE itself
[04:03] <smile_> c0nv1ct: when i open /lib/modules/2.15.26-386/volatiles .. i dont find nvidia.ko .. so i dont hav  the driver
[04:03] <teufel> need help installing planeshift i dont know how to handle .bin files yet
[04:03] <teufel> can someone help me please
[04:03] <rlj> RadiantFire: i know i can unmount manually, but that's not the point... i just can't understand why it would mount a cd/usb stick/whatever when i tell it not to (hit cancel)
[04:03] <RadiantFire> elj, I think it is the KDE Media Manager
[04:04] <corveum> RadiantFire: Hey, look I even have installed already
[04:04] <c0nv1ct> smile_: hmm, its not in mine either, but i have it installed
[04:04] <rlj> teufel: if the .bin-file is your downloaded archive, it's probably a shell script with lots of data appended. open up a terminal and type chmod +x FILENAME.bin and then ./FILENAME.bin
[04:04] <RadiantFire> oh well, I've got to bounce
[04:05] <rlj> teufel: which will set the executable flag, and subsequently launch the program
[04:05] <rlj> teufel: (script)
[04:05] <smile_> c0nv1ct: and ur compiz goes on ?
[04:05] <teufel> ok ill try
[04:05] <BluesKaj> !.bin
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <c0nv1ct> smile_: i use beryl, and it works fine
[04:05] <corveum> Ok, back to the big big question: anybody know how to install an alternative keyboard driver? The vietnamese system in Kubuntu doesn't work
[04:05] <timothy_> ok so i am now getting frustrated
[04:06] <smile_> c0nv1ct: ok ... i will try beryl .. is it better than Compiz ?
[04:06] <c0nv1ct> smile_: its newer, but less stable
[04:06] <smile_> c0nv1ct: less ? how ? what problem u have ?
[04:07] <c0nv1ct> smile_: i've only had it crash while using superkaramba
[04:07] <corveum> I've got this driver here: http://www.unikey.org, but it requires XWindows and haven't been able to get it to work
[04:07] <smile_> c0nv1ct: OK
[04:07] <smile_> c0nv1ct: THX
[04:07] <Xanith> how can i use the command line unrar to extract something?
[04:07] <Xanith> like what command would i use i can't figure this thing out lol
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: unrar x archive.rar i think
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: try unrar --help or something
[04:08] <rlj> Xanith: or man unrar
[04:08] <Xanith> rlj: i did, and i can't figure out what it means lol
[04:08] <teufel> chmod +x planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin ./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:08] <teufel> chmod: cannot access `planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin': No such file or directory
[04:08] <teufel> chmod: cannot access `./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin': No such file or directory
[04:08] <firemonkeyballz> oh about the flash sound thing in swiftfox and others... I had the same problem in windows
[04:08] <teufel> is that right
[04:08] <rlj> teufel: one thing at a time
[04:08] <firemonkeyballz> I could only get sound if I went directly to youtube
[04:08] <rlj> teufel: first chmod it: chmod +x planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> since they were embeded on my myspace
[04:09] <teufel> ok
[04:09] <rlj> teufel: then run it: ./planeshift_cbv0.3.018.bin
[04:09] <rlj> teufel: and make sure you're in the same directory as the file in your terminal :)
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> even tried re-installing flash
[04:09] <firemonkeyballz> didnt help
[04:09] <teufel> says invalid mode
[04:09] <moi> hi, any audio-buffs here?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> moi, some
[04:10] <teufel> my bad its says no such directory
[04:10] <Xanith> What does CRC failed mean?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> teufel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2241472
[04:11] <moi> anyone know if alsa is still being developed? It seeems by the dates on their webpage and the lack of support for new cards that it all stoped as of 2005!
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: it means the CRC = Cyclic Redundancy Check failed. basically, a checksum failed
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: which usually means the archive is damaged
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: however
[04:11] <firemonkeyballz> oh wolf yes I have to make symbolic links
[04:11] <rlj> Xanith: i think unrar has trouble with some newer version rar archives and complains about crc
[04:11] <Saille> re
[04:11] <BluesKaj> moi, my pc is less than a yr old and alsa supports my soundcard ok
[04:11] <Xanith> rlj: what's the solution to that?
[04:12] <rlj> Xanith: i don't like to recommend it, but the non-free rar archive can probably extract it
[04:12] <e1mer> hi all, do you know where does the config resides/updated when i open a file with `open with` and check on `remember to open this....`?
[04:12] <rlj> Xanith: so fire you your adept and search for rar
[04:12] <rlj> e1mer: if you open up kcontrol, (the kde control center), there is a file associations module under "KDE Components"
[04:13] <teufel> i cannot get it to install
[04:13] <moi> in their support list, they dont list my M-Audio Audiophile192, and the list date is 2005?
[04:13] <teufel> say no such file
[04:13] <rlj> e1mer: but i think kubuntu "system settings" never shows the configuration module, so you need to run kcontrol
[04:13] <Xanith> rlj: that was unrar non-free i was using
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: hm, try rar instead of unrar
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: do "man rar" or "rar --help"
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: or similar
[04:13] <teufel> anyone here installed planeshift
[04:13] <rlj> Xanith: probably either "rar x blabla.rar" or "rar -x blabla.rar"
[04:14] <moi> BluesKaj;  in their support list, they dont list my M-Audio Audiophile192, and the list date is 2005?
[04:14] <teufel> downloaed the bin but cant figure out what to do with it
[04:14] <Xanith> i don't think i have rar installed, and adept finds a LOT of stuff on rar lol
[04:14] <rlj> moi: alsa is in-kernel as far as i know
[04:14] <Xanith> if i could get my repositories to work, i'd install wine and emulate WinRAR
[04:15] <Xanith> but i can't download wine because my repositories don't work
[04:15] <rlj> moi: so it might be that the webpage is obsolete (as alsa isn't a standalone package anymore). all development stuff is probably happening on the linux kernel mailinglists
[04:15] <rlj> teufel: doesn't the planeshift site say anything about the archive you downloaded?
[04:15] <rlj> teufel: what to do with it...
[04:15] <moi> hmm. interesting. I do have some support, I get a mixer, but all audio played is near totaly distorted, though I can hear some shape in the noise
[04:15] <teufel> i have been all over their site
[04:15] <e1mer> rlj: thanks
[04:16] <mdtyke> *sighs* I wish Skype would work on Linux
[04:16] <teufel> when i did what you said it told me there was no such file
[04:16] <teufel> i dont think i was doing it right
[04:16] <moi> it seems to be useing the audiophile 24/96 driver
[04:16] <rlj> Xanith: just scroll down to the stuff on "rar" actually beginning on "rar". and you can disable searching in package descriptions too
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: you're welcome
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: i think you'll find all you need in there
[04:16] <BluesKaj> moi, did you look for a linux driver on your M-Audio site ?
[04:16] <e1mer> rlj: i did :)
[04:16] <rlj> e1mer: but it's probably in one of the ini-style files in ~/.kde/share
[04:17] <wincide> hi, hola.
[04:17] <rlj> will be back in a little while
[04:17] <jake> guys anybody here using compiz?
[04:17] <rlj> wish you all luck
[04:17] <compilerwriter> I am trying to disable ssh password authentication and am missing something.  Help!
[04:17] <corveum> I am trying to install Linux_Kernel_Headers, but am being warned that the package conflicts with linux-libc-dev... any idea how to resolve this?
[04:17] <moi> BluesKaj; no, I'll do so now...
[04:17] <Martiini> Can anyone help me set up BERYL , please ... Ive tried several howtos on ubuntu forum ... but I cannot even connect to beryl repos
[04:18] <looris> hi, i have a rather odd problem, tried google, and found nothing: i have two users, with one of them the automounter for usb-storage works, for the other one it does not
[04:18] <wincide> since i 've upgraded from edgy to feisty, i cannot browse any site, http does not run, even http
[04:18] <Skaman_> hi guys i'm having a problem with amule 2.1.3
[04:18] <wincide> sorry, even http://localhost does not run
[04:18] <wincide> but i can do that with links2 and i cant navigate with lynx
[04:19] <Skaman_> if  itry to run amuleweb i get this error
[04:19] <Skaman_> amuleweb: error while loading shared libraries: libbfd-2.16.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:19] <moi> BluesKaj; no they only support MacOS and M$
[04:19] <jake> guys anybody can give me idea how to use compiz?
[04:19] <wincide> do someone know how to get http again
[04:19] <Xanith> should i upgrade to feisty fawn?
[04:19] <mdtyke> Im wondering that too Xanith lol
[04:19] <firemonkeyballz> xantith will this work?  sudo ln -s  /opt/swiftfox /usr/lib
[04:19] <mdtyke> How easy is it to 'upgrade' Linux.. or do you need to always do fresh installs
[04:19] <BluesKaj> moi, perhaps an open source driver on a nonfree site ?
[04:20] <jake> ive installedit but it doesnt appear on the program list
[04:20] <wincide> Xanith:  mdtyke have you read what happened to me by upgrading to feisty ?
[04:20] <wincide> :S
[04:20] <Jobbe_> hey everyone, I've got a wlan problem: I'm trying to use ipw3945/wpa_supplicant.now while iwconfig says the interface is associated to an access point, dhcp will fail (the dhcp server is definately not the problem - I'm using it for other computers and the ethernet interface, too). also, wpa_cli complains it's not able to connect to wpa_supplicant. starting wpa_supplicant doesn't give any output. ps aux|grep wpa won't return anythin
[04:20] <Martiini> uhhhh .... questions, questions, questions
[04:20] <mdtyke> Nope, but I figure you're about to tell me :)
[04:20] <ccc> mdtyke: very easy. just a simple edit in a config file and a single command in the terminal.
[04:21] <firemonkeyballz> xantith will this work?  sudo ln -s  /opt/swiftfox /usr/lib
[04:21] <wincide> now i had to reinstall kubuntu-desktop again, and dont know if it will run after that
[04:21] <mdtyke> lol
[04:21] <mdtyke> Here, I don't suppose anyone uses Skype do they?
[04:22] <Skaman_> i use it mdtyke
[04:22] <mdtyke> I have it, and I actually need to use it a lot.. but I find the sound is just dire.  Even to play its fancy little tunes in the Preferences come out terrible
[04:22] <mdtyke> I can chat on it fine, but I really need to get the voice working
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> damn it time stamp
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> error
[04:22] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[04:22] <looris> well if nobodz has any clue, could you please address me on where to ask or search?
[04:22] <mdtyke> How does it work Ska?
[04:22] <Skaman_> works fine
[04:23] <Skaman_> but the voice is a bit metallic
[04:23] <Skaman_> little crappy
[04:23] <mdtyke> With me, it doesn't even work.  It's like h-----e-e--e--l----l---oo-o-o
[04:23] <mdtyke> its terrible lol
[04:23] <mdtyke> I have another little problem with my Linux.. Im a new mover from Windows
[04:24] <mdtyke> Does anyone have any idea how I can CPU throttle
[04:24] <Skaman_> i thuink that definitively needs to be develope the right way
[04:24] <Skaman_> :D
[04:24] <Xanith> is it possible my repositories aren't working because of edgy?
[04:24] <mdtyke> I'm running a Sony VAIO FS series
[04:24] <Xanith> i can't download wine, beryl or opera
[04:24] <mdtyke> But well, even on battery the CPU frequency is at 100%, and it just drains the battery.. Im talking a few percent a minute
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Xanith, have you checked your sources list ?
[04:24] <mdtyke> and I have a long-haul flight coming up soon, so I'd like to use it
[04:24] <Xanith> yes, I'm not that retarded.. lol. it gives me GPG errors
[04:25] <firemonkeyballz> freaking clock is off in kde
[04:25] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[04:25] <Skaman_> mdtyke have you tried to find out something in ubuntuforums?
[04:25] <mdtyke> Mostly Kubuntuforums
[04:25] <mdtyke> but I've been going mad around those forums.. no-one ever replies :P
[04:25] <BluesKaj> Xanth, I was not assuming you are retarded ...gawd
[04:26] <Xanith> BluesKaj: lol i was just joking, lol
[04:26] <jake> guys please help, who knows how to run compiz?
[04:26] <looris> ...sigh
[04:26] <Skaman_> i thiink that h-----e-e--e--l----l---oo-o-o is the best result you can get by now
[04:26] <Skaman_> :(
[04:26] <BluesKaj> one sometimes has to state what is obvious to some and not to others
[04:26] <corveum> installing linux_kernel_headers? any one? Bueller?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ok Xanith :)
[04:27] <Xanith> BluesKaj: so anyway, yea they are in my sources list, but it gives me GPG errors for some reason on them
[04:27] <BluesKaj> GPG ?
[04:27] <Xanith> BluesKaj: yea my thoughts exactly
[04:27] <firemonkeyballz> aaaah
[04:28] <firemonkeyballz> cant adjust the clock
[04:28] <firemonkeyballz> timestamp error
[04:28] <rotemj> i installed kubuntu 6.10 on AMD64 and been trying to config my nvidia gforce 6600 with no success
[04:28] <rotemj> any clue?
[04:28] <teufel> i have game its a bin file how do i install it
[04:28] <Xanith> oh crap i have to get in the shower, i'll figure this out later
[04:28] <Xanith> gotta go bye
[04:29] <morvok> rotemj: just a blank screen or device errors?
[04:31] <teufel> i have game its a bin file how do i install it
[04:31] <BluesKaj> teufel, try renameing the file extension to iso
[04:31] <teufel> ok
[04:31] <mdtyke> Argh, does anyone have an idea how to do this CPU scaling automatically in a laptop
[04:31] <mdtyke> I mustn'd have the right ACPI settings, but I've no idea how to change them
[04:32] <teufel> how do i install
[04:32] <teufel> daemon tools what
[04:32] <teufel> its planeshift
[04:32] <moi> BluesKaj; seems I need to update OSS, alsa has not caught up with the audiophile 192, though I cant find the command for updating OSS in this distro
[04:33] <teufel> hmmm
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> ok fixed clock
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> for good now
[04:33] <firemonkeyballz> I hope
[04:35] <rickympl> hello everyone, my user defined shorcut keys in the kde menu stopped working, like i assigned Win+B to open a certain program
[04:35] <rickympl> and it stopped opening
[04:36] <firemonkeyballz> ummm is it just me or is vista starting to emulate linxu?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> moi, maybe installing 'oss-compat' and 'oss preserve" might work for you
[04:38] <rickympl> does the fact that im using the "new" menu have anything to do with it?
[04:39] <moi> BluesKaj; what are they?
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:39] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:/opt/swiftfox$
[04:39] <compilerwriter> How would one search the entire file system for a file with a given text stream.  I am so embarrassed I can't think of the program to save my life right now.
[04:40] <BluesKaj> This package ensures that OSS support is provided in some way.  On Linux, it
[04:40] <BluesKaj> enables the ALSA compatibility modules.
[04:40] <wincide> hi all, my http protocol does not run since i 've upgraded to feisty. I cannot navigate now, so i can't get a way to make this run :(
[04:40] <moi> hmm
[04:40] <wincide> someone can help me ...
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !oss-compat
[04:40] <ubotu> oss-compat: OSS compatibility package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.4 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:42] <BluesKaj> !fiesty | wincide
[04:42] <ubotu> wincide: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:42] <timothy_> where do i get Wine
[04:42] <moi> BluesKaj; I read a thread on 4Front Technologies forum, with another audiophile 192 user, same problem, was told to run ossupdate but he was using another distro, I tred the same command; did not work, looked for the oss folder and cant find it
[04:42] <BluesKaj> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:43] <moi> it solved the problem in his case
[04:43] <Silveira_Neto> Hi people.
[04:44] <BluesKaj> oss-compat is in the repos, moi
[04:44] <rickympl> anyone?
[04:44] <kadir> heyaa
[04:44] <kadir> connecting from kubuntu on VmWare :P
[04:44] <c0nv1ct> kadir: what is the host OS?
[04:44] <kadir> Windows XP
[04:44] <kadir> :D
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> boooo
[04:45] <smile_> c0nv1ct: sorry for disturbing u again .. u asked me to change a file .. i forgot it ( to disable "nv" ) !!
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> i prefer my XP in vmware, opposite as you have it :P
[04:45] <kadir> hehe
[04:45] <c0nv1ct> smile_: oh, 1 sec
[04:45] <kadir> hey man i couldnt get along with Linux for so long
[04:45] <kadir> i guess i play too much games
[04:45] <kadir> thats why
[04:46] <c0nv1ct> smile_: its /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:46] <smile_> c0nv1ct: ok
[04:46] <smile_> c0nv1ct: thnk u
[04:47] <kadir> i'm trying to see if i can make use of one of the versions of linux i tried rdhat suse
[04:47] <timothy_> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[04:47] <kadir> and some i cant remember but i couldnt like them
[04:47] <kadir> i mean yeah i have to admit this os is definitely rocksolid
[05:08] (chavo/#kubuntu) it should link to the library file
[05:08] (firemonkeyballz/#kubuntu) yes
[05:08] (timothy_/#kubuntu) The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:09] (kadir/#kubuntu) omg i have to work on this os for at least a week to get everything working stable :D (hey i'm just a newbie)
[05:09] <jean-benoit> !fr
[05:09] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:10] <timothy_> well since i cannot seem to get any help i will just go and reinstall xp
[05:10] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: have you tried asking a question
[05:10] <kadir> :D
[05:10] <timothy_> uhhhh yes several times
[05:10] <kadir> that was good :D
[05:10] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: and what is it
 The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> thats not a question :)
[05:11] <timothy_> my adept package manager is failing can someone help me
[05:11] <timothy_> i asked that about 30 min agao
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: what happens when you run apt-setup
[05:11] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[05:11] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: and then running apt-get update, as it suggests
[05:11] <timothy_> i run it and nothing happens i get the same error
[05:12] <timothy_> i ran it in Konsol
[05:12] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: when you run apt-setup?
[05:12] <kadir> okay you got my attention. i'm going to install Kubuntu on oner of my harddrives and accept all updates (i think they were about 250Mbytes so i'll see you again after i do that)
[05:12] <kadir> thanks a lot friends!
[05:12] <kadir> see ya soon
[05:12] <corveum> when is use apt-get install linux-kernel-headers I receive the following message: linux-kernel-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[05:12] <corveum>   linux-libc-dev - if that is so how do I make my other installer see it?
[05:12] <miltos> my adept manager stopped at 99% waiting for headers...what can i do?
[05:13] <timothy_> when i run aptt setup it says command not found
[05:14] <timothy_> timothy@ubuntu:~$ apt-setup
[05:14] <timothy_> bash: apt-setup: command not found
[05:14] <timothy_> timothy@ubuntu:
[05:14] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: do a 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and paste it to the pastebin
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: to run apt-setup you have to use sudo
[05:15] <firemonkeyballz> http://www.aptana.com/trac/ticket/3461
[05:15] <c0nv1ct> timothy_: so 'sudo apt-setup'
[05:16] <mouser25> I just updated to feisty this morning and would like to run compiz but I apear to not be starting it properly because it loads compiz effects but I get no window decorator.  can someone point me to a good howtoo for running compiz under kde?
[05:16] <atidem> hello
[05:17] <corveum> c0nv1ct: thanks again
[05:17] <timothy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9816/
[05:18] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: what kind of video card to you have?
[05:18] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: I have an nvidia and if I run glxinfo I have hardware rendering
[05:18] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359367&highlight=howto+compiz+feisty
[05:19] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: thanks :)
[05:19] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: thats how i got compiz setup on my laptop feisty install
[05:19] <animimotus> hi
[05:19] <mjunx> oh my god, kspread is not very good at calculations :(:(
[05:19] <mjunx> it takes like 5 minutes to calculate the first 30 fibonacci numbers
[05:19] <animimotus> someone can do a tif rotation in konqueror / digikam or gwenview ? I can not :\
[05:20] <firemonkeyballz> convlct the only problem I can see that may be it is that ls is showing the file as red
[05:20] <miltos> my adept manager stopped at 99% waiting for headers...what can i do?
[05:20] <firemonkeyballz> the problamatic file
[05:21] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: I belive that howto is for ubunto or gnome.  I dont have desktop effects under preferences
[05:22] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi dudes.. anyone knows the link for: FireFox + Flash + Java AMD64 help guide?
[05:22] <firemonkeyballz> !firefox
[05:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:22] <firemonkeyballz> !swiftfox
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: try in kcontrol, under Style, then effects
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> ummm swiftfox is the same as firefox right?
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> so
[05:25] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: yes, just rebuilt
[05:25] <firemonkeyballz> !firefox | convlct
[05:25] <ubotu> convlct: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:26] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: well form what I can see there isn't much there I have Enable Gui Effects enabled
[05:26] <timothy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9816/
[05:26] <firemonkeyballz> go to where it sais sybolic links
[05:26] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: have you tried running compiz after completeing that howto?
[05:26] <ferro> ....
[05:27] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: just go to the consol and run compiz?
[05:27] <c0nv1ct> mouser25: yeah
[05:27] <payam> hi
[05:27] <payam> How can i install a new Theme?
[05:27] <Jucato> !changethemes | payam
[05:27] <ubotu> payam: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:27] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: ya if I type compiz --replace then I have no window decoration
[05:28] <payam> i wana install it not change it
[05:28] <mouser25> c0nv1ct: But compiz is running and I have some of the Compiz effects but no window decorations
[05:28] <c0nv1ct> payam: in there is an option to import new themese
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> payam: followthat tutorial
[05:28] <chavo> mouser25, after that run kde-window-decorator --replace
[05:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> For some reason, I don't have sound
[05:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> When I use the LIVECD, I have sound, but after installing...nothing
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: what shipset do you have?
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> *chipset
[05:29] <Cobra_Bubbles> hang on, let me get the info
[05:29] <miltos> Kmix doen't work with me either...i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:29] <mouser25> /msg c0nv1ct
[05:29] <mouser25> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[05:30] <mouser25>   Major opcode:  148
[05:30] <mouser25>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:30] <mouser25>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:30] <mouser25> Failed to open device
[05:30] <mouser25> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[05:30] <mouser25>   Major opcode:  148
[05:30] <mouser25>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:30] <mouser25>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:30] <mouser25> Failed to open device
[05:30] <mouser25> sorry
[05:30] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[05:30] <firemonkeyballz> mommie
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> card 0: IXP [ATI IXP] , device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97] 
[05:31] <payam> i cant install it
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> card 1: Modem [ATI IXP Modem] , device 0: ATI IXP MC97 [ATI IXP MC97] 
[05:31] <payam> How can i install a theme?
[05:31] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, please do ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-x11* and paste it
[05:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> that's actually from aplay -l
[05:31] <firemonkeyballz> chavo it is in there
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> just not like you think it is
[05:32] <chavo> payam, it depends themes are made of different parts
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: what kind of computer is that?
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> latop?
[05:32] <payam> ,kha
[05:32] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, nvm
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> its in the user directory
[05:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> Arima w730-k8x Laptop
[05:32] <payam> #kubuntu.se
[05:32] <firemonkeyballz> user lib
[05:32] <payam> #ubuntu.se
[05:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> also known as Gateway 7510GX
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> how ever it has some permissions set to it
[05:33] <firemonkeyballz> that im not shure of
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: hi again :D
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: how the wifi?
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ahh...so its got an ati chipset?
[05:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> corey wassup
[05:33] <chavo> which is why I asked you to paste the out put of ls -l, but w/e
[05:33] <chavo> nvm
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> like a x200?
[05:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sorry bout yesterday corey, I got summoned away from the computer do do some housework
[05:33] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: ah i see
[05:34] <Cobra_Bubbles> Oh the wifi is fantastic... I'm just trying to figure out why I have no sound
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: did you try headphones?
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaakim dude your sound fix crashed the kernal
[05:34] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: ah yes, that was one of my biggest problems until just recently
[05:34] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... I don't have any headphones
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> had to fix the clock
[05:34] <rlj> is there a way to disable kde automount of removable media altogether? i find it really annoying. and btw, setting "do nothing" as default behavior in kcontrol's removable media settings did not help, it only prevented the "splash window" from appearing. so i'm starting to believe that part of kde isn't actually the culprit.
[05:34] <firemonkeyballz> after
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: it maybe that the wudio out is working....do you have anything you can plugg into it?
[05:35] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: pm
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: really?
[05:35] <Cobra_Bubbles> I have speakers...in the car... ><
[05:35] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> duse... sorry..
[05:35] <firemonkeyballz> now since I fixed it
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> *dude
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> aka reverting to original
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> its saying that the mixer is not compatable
[05:36] <Cobra_Bubbles> BRB
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> or somethign at shutdown
[05:36] <miltos> Kmix doen't work with me either...i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> have a alc883 codec that needs installing
[05:36] <firemonkeyballz> if thats what I need
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: ok....how do you know that that crashed the kernel firemonkeyballz?
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: it still does that to me.. don't worry about the mixer thing
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> alc883 is the realtek sound chipset
[05:37] <firemonkeyballz> just know that at boot the power controller failed
[05:38] <firemonkeyballz> and soemthing before
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: the what failed?
[05:38] <miltos> i watched a movie an hour ago with sound and now nothing...help
[05:38] <firemonkeyballz> arg I wish I could log the boot and shutdown screens
[05:39] <payam> how can i install a new theme?
[05:40] <firemonkeyballz> nos the apic failed
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: you can, type "dmesg" that'll give you the latest kernel messages
[05:40] <payam> how can i install a new theme?
[05:40] <firemonkeyballz> yea but mine doesnt log it at boot
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh yeah.... thats a not a problem with the sound
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes it does...all systems do
[05:41] <Cobra_Bubbles> Nothing from speakers/hedphones
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz:  you can read all kernel meesages in /var/log/messages
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok thanx...
[05:41] <payam> does any one know how i can install a new theme?
[05:42] <chavo> payam, it depends, like I said themes can be made of different parts
[05:42] <firemonkeyballz> I think it may have been wiped
[05:42] <chavo> is it a style, a windeco or a theme which contains all of them?
[05:42] <firemonkeyballz> since Ive booted a few times
[05:42] <payam> I dont understans what you mean
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh...right... it doesn't do it every time?
[05:43] <firemonkeyballz> buh the ACPI crashed
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> buh?
[05:43] <firemonkeyballz> and I had to reset the clock
[05:43] <chavo> payam, do you have a link to the them you want to install?
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> and I rember that it was near that and related to ur fix
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: when did this happen? right after you didmy fix?
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> yea rebooted
[05:44] <firemonkeyballz> and bang
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> oh...k...
[05:44] <payam> yes i have
[05:44] <payam> i have  download it och have iton my desktop
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: I understand....
[05:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> I don't get it
[05:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> This is very weird... I had sound on the LIVECD, gone on the full install
[05:45] <firemonkeyballz> I'd install the realtek driver but its 32 bits
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: http://people.stfx.ca/x2005/x2005etf/Gateway7510GX_SUSE.html
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> it says to turn off the external amplifier in Kmix
[05:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> Thanks
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html  and look for your model #
[05:48] <szaloony> hi
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> hello
[05:48] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:49] <ubuntu__> hillooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:49] <szaloony> I have a liitle problem and Id love a help :d
[05:49] <coreymon77> !ask
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <Cobra_Bubbles> nothing
[05:49] <ubuntu__> kanenas ellhnas
[05:49] <szaloony> im trying to install xgl on kubuntu of course
[05:49] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: do you have a nvidia card?
[05:49] <szaloony> howto says to write cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg login in terminal
[05:50] <szaloony> yes i have
[05:50] <ubuntu__> ELLADA
[05:50] <payam> help
[05:50] <payam> help
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: then why do you want to use XGL? are you on Edgy?
[05:50] <szaloony> yes I am
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: then use AIGLX, much easier, and much faster
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: and its built in
[05:50] <c0nv1ct> !AIGLX
[05:51] <szaloony> really?
[05:51] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[05:51] <szaloony> and same effects?
[05:51] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: no need to aiglx with nvidia
[05:51] <Dekans> its a loss of performances
[05:51] <szaloony> aiglx
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: both reports on linux-laptops say there is n problem with the sound...one is from dapper drake
[05:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm using Edgy
[05:52] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: AIGLX is built into the 97xx drivers and xorg
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> szaloony: AIGLX is far easier and gives just as good of effects
[05:52] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 for a howto
[05:53] <firemonkeyballz> to tell  you the truth actually convlct it looks like an escape problem in the drivers loop structure
[05:53] <payam> i found iut
[05:53] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: i'm not sure i understand you, since aiglx is built in
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: did you move all mixer channels up and make sure none of them are muted?
[05:53] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: are you still trying to compile swiftfox?
[05:53] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: beryl needs the tfp support in order to run
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekans: you're not making any sense
[05:54] <Dekans> nvidia 96xx drivers support this instruction
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz>  no
[05:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> yeah
[05:54] <szaloony> hm, but Ive almost installed xgl
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> im talking about the sound driver
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> that alas is using
[05:54] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: trust me, dont do xgl
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> I gave up on swiftfox for the moment'
[05:55] <c0nv1ct> szaloony: it uses way more resources, and direct rendering wont work
[05:55] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: if you lanch Xgl instead of Xorg, it's quite fast
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz:try my patch again , I don't think its what crashed your computer....
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> APIC is unrelated to sound
[05:56] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: thats how i had it setup
[05:56] <Cobra_Bubbles> V>_<V I'm gonna throw this thing against a wall until it bleeds Silicon
[05:56] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: but will it support direct rendering?
[05:56] <Dekans> yes, I ran compiz in tis way last year
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: try "dmes" and see if there is anything relating to sound
[05:56] <Dekans> this*
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> *gmesg
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> last year? o.O
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> *dmesg sorry
[05:57] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, do you have firefox installed?
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> no
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> cant
[05:57] <Dekans> compiz has been opend in january 2006
[05:57] <lontra> i agree that aiglx is better to use than xgl
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> yeah, but things have changed in a year
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> swiftfox and firefox and deerpark wont install
[05:57] <Dekans> yes but the engine is the same
[05:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> command not found
[05:57] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what CPU do you have
[05:58] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: but the drivers arent
[05:58] <firemonkeyballz> amd turion
[05:58] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: it is the interest of Xgl
[05:59] <c0nv1ct> what is?
[05:59] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what swiftfox version are you trying to install?
[05:59] <Dekans> no need to tfp or aiglx support
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> specifically the mk36
[05:59] <Dekans> any 3D acceleretion is enough
[05:59] <szaloony> ok, Ill try aixgl, thanks for help :)
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> 2.0
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: sorry "dmesg"
[05:59] <Dekans> szaloony: you have a nvidia ?
[05:59] <firemonkeyballz> 2.0 swiftfox
[06:00] <szaloony> yeah
[06:00] <lontra> why not just use konqueror?
[06:00] <c0nv1ct> Dekans: the 97xx drivers allow you to run compiz/beryl directly on X, without any need for an external XGL or AIGLX
[06:00] <Dekans> szaloony: with feisty you will have a driver than directly supports beryl, if you are interested in it
[06:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> Holy shit, should I pastebin these results?
[06:00] <intelikey> lontra good question.  unfortunatly it's moot
[06:00] <Dekans> c0nv1ct: yes exactly
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah
[06:01] <Dekans> like the 96xx
[06:01] <lontra> intelikey: i use konqueror cause it's much faster and integrates better than firefox
[06:01] <c0nv1ct> well basically its the 9xxx
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> that would REALLY flood the channell..lol
[06:01] <Dekans> yes
[06:01] <lontra> i can open konqueror in under a second...firefox takes up to 10 to open
[06:01] <intelikey> lontra i don't use ff cause it's ugly.    meeh.
[06:01] <lontra> he he
[06:02] <lontra> brb
[06:02] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaekim http://pastebin.ca/390704
[06:02] <szaloony> ill try on edgy first
[06:02] <firemonkeyballz> looks like a loop error to me
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: BRB
[06:04] <intelikey> firemonkeyballz nice runaway  :)
[06:04] <szaloony> thanks once again, bye :)
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> I kno
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> and its not even my doing
[06:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> Awww he lefted
[06:05] <intelikey> file a bug
[06:05] <intelikey> !bug
[06:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:08] <compilerwriter> away
[06:08] <ComputerHermit> hello
[06:08] <intelikey> !away | compilerwriter
[06:08] <ubotu> compilerwriter: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:08] <ComputerHermit> I had a problem with adept lastnight
[06:08] <swapspace> !guidelines
[06:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:09] <ComputerHermit> or adept manger
[06:09] <ComputerHermit> anyone have a problem it unstalling your programes you dont want unstalled
[06:09] <fsafasgdsgasd> I need users for my IRC server, any volunteeers :) ?
[06:09] <c0nv1ct> fsafasgdsgasd: does it have porn?
[06:10] <timster> Good question
[06:10] <ComputerHermit> yea
[06:10] <intelikey> ComputerHermit dependancies.
[06:10] <bxnp> what kind of irc server do you have fsafasgdsgasd
[06:10] <intelikey> t ^
[06:10] <c0nv1ct> i go where the boobs are
[06:10] <ComputerHermit> what do you mean dependanices
[06:10] <intelikey> typo
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> intel
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> so my adpet wasent config right?
[06:11] <intelikey> i mean when something depends on something that conflicts with something installed  either you can't install or the conflicting package has to go.
[06:11] <ComputerHermit> yes but firestarter
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> and kde
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> ect..
[06:12] <intelikey> what did you try to install ?
[06:12] <ComputerHermit> I wanted to remove shareing because I dont use folder shareing
[06:13] <firemonkeyballz> reported
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> what does Xirc have to do with folder shareing and Iam not a noob
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> so
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> I just never seen it act up like that it was a nightmare
[06:13] <ComputerHermit> fixeing it all manual
[06:13] <Svetlio> e6 i tva e registrirano :D
[06:14] <ComputerHermit> so I shit caned it
[06:14] <ComputerHermit> :-)
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: you still around?
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: those are the EXACT errors I was getting
[06:16] <ComputerHermit> I just though about the noob's who go in their and lose everything ad then post all over the net how do I do this and this happend
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> yes but
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> it looks more like a runaway loop
[06:17] <intelikey> ComputerHermit again  dependencies
[06:17] <intelikey> ComputerHermit uninstall bash and see what happens...
[06:18] <ComputerHermit> nice doing as we speak
[06:18] <lupul> hi. can anyone tell me pls how to change my boot screen?
[06:18] <lupul> in kubuntu edgy
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> and besides... the differance between me and you I have sound but I dont have midi and synth
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: neither do I....
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> do you have sound out your speakers?
[06:18] <intelikey> !usplash
[06:18] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh..ok... then whats the problem?
[06:19] <intelikey> lupul see ubotu  ^
[06:19] <ComputerHermit> you know what bash was picked buy adept to unstall lastnight
[06:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos: I have that Pastebin link for you
[06:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9827/
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok...i'll look at it..
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> and I looked up what your thing does is basically to tell the kernal to ignore the invalid dep range messages
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: in addition, It also switches off HD sound(i.e. spidf
[06:20] <firemonkeyballz> but that has been fixed in the 32 bit version at realtek
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: really? I hadn't heard that... good news
[06:22] <intelikey> not a noob  but he doesn't understand package dependencies    oh well.
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: I don't see any real problem in there...
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> if you mean me
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I catch on fast
[06:23] <lupul> ok thanks
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I may be "new" to linux
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> but I know a snake in the grass when I see one
[06:23] <intelikey> i didn't mean you.
[06:24] <Cobra_Bubbles> I was afraid of that... It's annoying to have no sound whatsoever..
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> as to meaning
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> when there is a problem
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> you dont ignore it
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: I understand....:-P
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> Oh shit...
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> That HURT
[06:26] <Cobra_Bubbles> I gave up and closed Amarok and it gave me an error sound
[06:27] <Cobra_Bubbles> So... I am getting system sounds, but can't play mp3's...
[06:27] <Innosense> Can anyone help me install something through the command line?
[06:28] <Innosense> or direct me to a list of comman line commands and how they work?
[06:28] <intelikey> !mp3 | Innosense
[06:28] <ubotu> Innosense: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <intelikey> ooops
[06:28] <intelikey> !cli | Innosense
[06:28] <ubotu> Innosense: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:28] <intelikey> now .    sudo apt-get install blah
[06:29] <intelikey> now .    sudo apt-get remove blah
[06:29] <intelikey> any more questions?
[06:30] <Innosense> I guess so...
[06:30] <Filthpig> hi
[06:30] <Innosense> I want to install flash, and it gave me too options a tar.gz and a rpm
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ahh....
[06:31] <intelikey> !rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:31] <Filthpig> use tar
[06:31] <Innosense> niether of them seem to work when I do the sudo apt-get install
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> so problem with your sound card then
[06:31] <intelikey> !flash | Innosense
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> *no problem
[06:31] <ubotu> Innosense: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> it seems this way
[06:31] <Filthpig> my brother has a problem with his computer
[06:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> So what I need... Is to find out why I am getting system sounds, but no multimedia sounds
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: mp3 support is easy
[06:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm?
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> !libxine-extracodecs | Cobra_Bubbles
[06:32] <ubotu> cobra_bubbles: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> ^^^get that
[06:32] <Innosense> I'm still really confused...I'm sorry
[06:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> I already have that installed
[06:33] <Innosense> I got the .tar.gz an I extracted it...but I don't know what to do with the files inside
[06:33] <sergio> what is it?
[06:33] <sergio> I'm new on linux
[06:34] <Innosense> flash
[06:34] <sergio> mmh?
[06:34] <sergio> i'm using kubuntu version
[06:34] <Innosense> Same here
[06:34] <intelikey> no problem. Innosense what the bot means is that flash is in the ubuntu repos  and you don't need to use a source package.   you can install it via the package manager,  provided you enable the "backports" repos
[06:34] <Bi||aBong> how i can enable the direct rendering of ati drivers?
[06:34] <sergio> and in particular the Konversation programme
[06:35] <Filthpig> all of a sudden his windows xp registry is bleeped up, so he can't start his computer. Then his Linuxusing little brother (me) tells him to start his system with the kubuntu livecd I left at his place last week. Now I need some answers:
[06:35] <Innosense> oh!
[06:35] <Innosense> okay, one sec
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: are you using the xine engine in amarok?
[06:36] <intelikey> !ati | Bi||aBong
[06:36] <ubotu> Bi||aBong: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <Filthpig> Does the Kubuntu 7.04 herd 4 have write support for ntfs disks?
[06:36] <sergio> how can i read a dvd with kaffeine or other programmes?
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> Filthpig: not by default I don't think....
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> !dvdcss | sergio
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> !dvd | sergio
[06:37] <ubotu> sergio: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:37] <intelikey> Filthpig you mean built-in support ?    all ubuntu releases have support via ntfs3-g
[06:37] <lontra> !libdvdcss
[06:37] <intelikey> !ntfs | Filthpig
[06:37] <ubotu> Filthpig: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:37] <foob> try using Xine
[06:37] <Filthpig> ah, thanks
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: but by default?
[06:38] <Tonren> How do I change Katapult's options?
[06:38] <Cobra_Bubbles> yeah I am
[06:38] <ollip> HI
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: can you play music with any other program? try popping in an audio CD for instance
[06:38] <intelikey> nosrednaekim that's what i was asking, if that was the question or just installable support.
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: ahh ok..
[06:38] <Innosense> Intelikey should I add the edgy-backports called deb and deb-src?
[06:39] <miltos> kimix doesn't work anymore...i watched a movie an  hour ago...and now after rebooting nothing...pls help
[06:39] <foob> almost all the players work but you need to make sure you have all the proper codecs
[06:39] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... No music in Amarok no sound for movies in Kaffeine no sound in gtkpod nor XMMS
[06:39] <ollip> hi bin neu hier und brauche drinkend kubuntu support
[06:39] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i'm not sure if ntfs-3g will be defaultly installed in the new release or not...
[06:39] <intelikey> Innosense deb
[06:40] <Innosense> what does deb and deb-src stand for?
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: read support will be... its needed by the upgrade manager( oh is 3g write support?)
[06:40] <OsMoSi> Sera a tutti
[06:40] <intelikey> Innosense deb-src means the source code in .deb format so you can install the source and recompile it to your liking.    most people don't use deb-src repos
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: but system sound does work? (other than the simple beep)
[06:41] <intelikey> nosrednaekim read support was in hoary breezy dapper and edgy.  i'm not sure if warty had it or not.
[06:41] <Tonren> Anyone?  Katapult optoins?
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: ahh ok..... thanks
[06:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim or i should say ro=read-only support
[06:42] <Cobra_Bubbles> I get that error sound when I close something yeah
[06:43] <Innosense> intelikey: yeah I'm not a not there yet.  now that I've added the deb how do I find the newest flash, there are lots of flash related things when I search, which one is the right one?
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: k...
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> do you hear kopete sounds?
[06:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> Kopete? I'm using GAIM...
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ok... do you hear sounds from that?
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> Kopete is Kde's equivalent of GAIM
[06:45] <intelikey> Innosense that i don't know.  depends on what you want it to do and what exactly is avalable, best to read the descriptions and decide what you want.    also asking someone that uses flash might help with a quick start.
[06:45] <animimotus> how to purge krita please ? by this way I can not http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9835/
[06:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> No... I her no sounds
[06:45] <Cobra_Bubbles> I wasn't aware GAIM was making any
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeh GAIM makes sounds
[06:46] <Innosense> I'm no fan of propriatary, but how do you deal with content you'd want to watch, say on youtube or something like that?
[06:46] <miltos> kimix doesn't work anymore...i watched a movie an  hour ago...and now after rebooting nothing...pls help
[06:47] <Innosense> Do you go without, or do you find a workaround?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: go into kcontrol -> sounds and multimedia-> sound system-> test sound
[06:47] <wsjunior> last time i asked for ubuntu cds from shipit i received also some adhesives. is there kubuntu adhesives like those avaliable for purchasing somewhere?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> adhesives?
[06:47] <wsjunior> ya
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> like the little windows stickers that come with computers?
[06:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> OW
[06:47] <wsjunior> no
[06:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> Yeah that worked...
[06:48] <Innosense>                                              Anyone here use flash coupled with firefox?
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: yes
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> you have to DL from the macromedia site
[06:48] <Innosense> Yes, but I couldn't figure out how to run it from the command line
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: go into the hardware tab
[06:48] <intelikey> Innosense youtube ?     hehhe  that's how.
[06:49] <Cobra_Bubbles> It says "Open Sound System"
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: you don't, you put it into a directory within .mozzilla
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: change that to ALSA
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> or autodetect
[06:49] <Innosense> which one, the tar.gz or the rpm?
[06:49] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: like this -> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?showBleed=false&ProductNo=26023535&pr=F
[06:50] <Tonren> How do I change Katapult's options?!
[06:50] <intelikey> Innosense not an .rpm
[06:50] <wsjunior> nosrednaekim: i was wondering if there is some lubuntu sticker like that one avaliable for purchasing
[06:50] <Cobra_Bubbles> Changed to ALSA and applied...test works
[06:50] <nosrednaekim> check amarok.etc
[06:50] <coreymon77> Cobra_Bubbles: you got sound working?
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> wsjunior: I am not aware of any....I would like one though
[06:51] <miltos> any help with my kmix ...no sound on my kubuntu...pls help
[06:51] <Innosense> nosrednaekim how do I find the mozilla directory?
[06:51] <Cobra_Bubbles> VICTOLY!
[06:51] <wsjunior> there is a lot of ubuntu related productes there (http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop) but nothing kubuntu related
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: /home/<youruser>/.mozzilla
[06:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> It is playing a stream off of Gaming.FM now
[06:52] <intelikey> rpm = redhat package management     there are several rpm based distros, ubuntu is not one of them.   dpkg = the debian package manager   .deb = a debian package    there are several deb based distros    ubuntu is one of them.
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: sorry /home/<youruser./.mozilla
[06:52] <animimotus> how to purge krita please ? by this way I can not http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9835/ and in #koffice they said that #kubuntu can help me to understand this kubuntu's relative problem
[06:53] <Innosense> in konqueror I Went into my home
[06:53] <Innosense> then my name
[06:53] <Cobra_Bubbles> and... Kaffeine has sound
[06:53] <Innosense> and then all I see see
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: actually /home/<youruser>/.mozilla/plugins
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> .* files are hidden
[06:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you can replace /home/<youruser>   with  the tild char   ~
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: yeah that would simplify things
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: GREAT!!
[06:53] <Innosense> wow okay that worked
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> you in .mozilla/plugins?
[06:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> now... To watch the Rock Chewer sing "Born To be Wild" in The Neverending Story III
[06:54] <intelikey> in bash and for the most part linux in general the tild is expanded to the output of $HOME     test# echo $HOME ;echo ~
[06:55] <Innosense> okay
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: everything working now?
[06:55] <Innosense> I put the plugin into that folder
[06:55] <Innosense> now...
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> the .so?
[06:55] <intelikey> there are some gui exceptions to that ^  things that protect special chars in paths and filenames...
[06:55] <Innosense> it still doesn't work....
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: the .so? or the tar.gz?
[06:56] <intelikey> !tar
[06:56] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:56] <Innosense> everything inside the tar.gz
[06:56] <Innosense> so the .so
[06:56] <Innosense> and the other ones too
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: did you restart firefox?
[06:56] <Innosense> yeah...
[06:56] <Cobra_Bubbles> y7up
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: cool
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> What command do you use to adjust your desktop resolution?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: OSS is an antiquidated sound system,motly everything these days uses alsa
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: whats it at now>
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> gotcha nos
[06:57] <Innosense> I'll trestarted the entire compy and see what happends
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: thats not neccesary
[06:57] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm pretty sure it's 1024x768x32... My system is capable of 1240x1024x32
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> 1240x 1024?thats an odd res
[06:58] <Innosense> I tried closing all firefoxs twice and nothign happend...
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> you sure its not 1280x 800?
[06:58] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos yeah it is. That's what Windows would max at
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> or 1280x1024
[06:58] <Cobra_Bubbles> err, yeah 1280x800
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> ok...lol
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> Anyways, what do I use to adjust my resolution?
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: time for some xorg editing
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> yay!
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <Cobra_Bubbles> right
[07:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> "short" ?
[07:00] <Cobra_Bubbles> It's a widescreen HDTV crammed into a laptop chassis
[07:00] <intelikey> they call it "wide" to get you to buy it...
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: wide is better
[07:00] <intelikey> it's really "short"  not wide.
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> true
[07:01] <Cobra_Bubbles> meh
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> what?
[07:01] <Innosense> They do say Wider is better, but I've always wondred about those screens...somethings off
[07:02] <chavo> the only thing a widescreen is good for is movies
[07:02] <Cobra_Bubbles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9840/
[07:02] <intelikey> wider would be better if they would make it taller to match  lol   :)
[07:02] <Cobra_Bubbles> Widescreen is nice.
[07:02] <chavo> and thats not a necessity if you're sitting close to your screen anyway
[07:02] <intelikey> for what Cobra_Bubbles ?
[07:03] <Cobra_Bubbles> The screens are wider so you can watch movies in their original intended Aspect ratio without having those annoying black bars
[07:03] <miltos> no sound on my kubuntu system...and it seems strange as i watched a movie an hour ago....help!
[07:03] <intelikey> Cobra_Bubbles lol
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: ummm are SURE it's not at 1280x800?
[07:03] <Innosense> It still tells me "you either have javascript turned off or an old version of macromedia's falsh player. get the new lastest flash player"  But Ihave the one I just downloaded, and javascript is on...
[07:04] <intelikey> you have a movie that is too short for he screen  so the answer is cut off part of the screen so the movie fits   lol
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> becuase thats the only modeline
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: but that runins HD movies!1
[07:04] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm looking at that nos, it looks like I was wrong...
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> does it look bad or something?
[07:04] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you missed my point.
[07:04] <Cobra_Bubbles> Guys, I think with a minimum of fuss, we have now a fully-converted Windows-to-Kubuntu user!!!
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: champagne?
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> lets toast the bot
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[07:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> lol
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> cute
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> lol
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> !botsnack
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> awww
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> he's ful
[07:05] <intelikey> !thanks | Cobra_Bubbles
[07:05] <ubotu> Cobra_Bubbles: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[07:05] <Cobra_Bubbles> muwahahahaha
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> haha
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: hehe? Beryl?
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm just....going to avoid beryl
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> I hear she's flashy but tempermental
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> The KDE environment seems to work rather nicely for me
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah...true true
[07:07] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> expecially with ATI
[07:07] <intelikey> bb'z ok
[07:07] <makuseru> how do i view a floppy in kubuntu?
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> without nvidia its quite stable
[07:07] <Cobra_Bubbles> I should make an image of my setup the way it is...
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: haha you can...
[07:07] <BluesKaj> Cobra_Bubbles, beryl is eye candy , doesn't work well on ATI cards but seems ok on nVidia
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru you mount it.
[07:08] <intelikey> !mount
[07:08] <makuseru> how?
[07:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru   sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media
[07:08] <makuseru> oh
[07:08] <makuseru> thanks
[07:08] <BluesKaj> GParted is a live cd , works better than qparted
[07:09] <intelikey> no gparted is an application frontend to parted
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: " tar xvzf / /copy" it'll be a big file though;)
[07:09] <Cobra_Bubbles> Well since I am using an ATI card... A really nice one, even... I will stick with KDE
[07:09] <intelikey> there is a "gparted live CD"  meaning a live CD that boots to a running gparted
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: don't do that above command unless you are serious
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> Big files are okay. I've got a 100-GB HDD and a DVD-R drive
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yeah.
[07:10] <BluesKaj> well Cobra_Bubbles , maybe beryl will work for you , who knows ? :)
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: do that command then, it'll totally back up your whole installation
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> BluesKaj: While I -AM- a Tinkerer, I also subscribe to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> and don't break anything you can't fix ;)
[07:10] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos: All settings, drivers and everything?
[07:10] <BluesKaj> right , Cobra_Bubbles , agreed :)
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> nos is wise
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: yes
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> tar: /: Cannot read: Is a directory   Awww...
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> ahh Cobra_Bubbles my bad
[07:12] <intelikey> or in other words.  default means a starting point on the way to how it should be.
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: "tar cvzf / copy.tar.gz"
[07:13] <intelikey> nosrednaekim nope
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> wait...don't run that
[07:13] <intelikey> can't creat /
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> haha... oh wow...
[07:13] <gentoofan23> tar cvzf copy.tar.gz /
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> thank you gentoofam
[07:13] <Cobra_Bubbles> good thing I didn't
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> run gentoo fans
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> *fan's
[07:14] <Innosense> what does the command 'su' do in the commandline?
[07:14] <gentoofan23> Logs you into a root shell
[07:14] <intelikey> switch user
[07:15] <gentoofan23> "su <USERNAME>"
[07:15] <intelikey> gentoofan23 defaults to root if no user is specified  but it's   switch user
[07:15] <gentoofan23> correct
[07:15] <Innosense> how do you create a folder in the command line?
[07:15] <gentoofan23> but if you run only "su" it gives you a root shell
[07:15] <gentoofan23> "mkdir <FOLDERNAME>"
[07:16] <Innosense> does the foldername have to be in < > or did you just do that?
[07:16] <intelikey> gentoofan23 correct.  but one should probably never run   just su   su -     but not su
[07:16] <gentoofan23> no, you never have the "<>"
[07:16] <gentoofan23> mkdir foo
[07:17] <Innosense> got it
[07:17] <intelikey> su alone will give you a root shell    but in the $PWD and with the users env
[07:17] <BluesKaj> what is it with "foo" , I see it in man pages etc , but what does it mean ?
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> its means "example"
[07:17] <intelikey> BluesKaj same as   blah
[07:18] <BluesKaj> ok what is foobar then ?
[07:18] <intelikey> foo is old school   blah   is new * word
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> same as blahbar?
[07:18] <gentoofan23> same thing
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: are you running that command?
[07:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> No, you told me not to
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> ehh... its probably a better idea not to
[07:19] <BluesKaj> ha - ha , nosrednaekim , I know you couldn't resist but....
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> what?
[07:19] <BluesKaj> so bar means nothing
[07:19] <intelikey> well not really BluesKaj foobar was barrowed from us mil.   "fubar"     acronymn menaing  "f*'d up beyond any recognition"
[07:19] <Cobra_Bubbles> I would like to make a backup though, at least of my audio and wifi setups
[07:20] <BluesKaj> oh like snafu
[07:20] <gentoofan23> Yeah, you can do it of /etc which houses all config files.
[07:20] <gentoofan23> tar cvzf backup.tar.gz /etc
[07:20] <BluesKaj> snafu = situation normal all f....d up
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> Cobra_Bubbles: I understand... but usually it a whoile lot easier the second time around
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> if you happen to toally mess something up..
[07:21] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm...right
[07:21] <intelikey> didn't mean to start a discussion on military acro's   but yeah.
[07:22] <BluesKaj> hehe
[07:22] <BluesKaj> f...d the original is "fouled"
[07:23] <intelikey> the boys in uniform tend to talk like school kids     very foul mouthed...
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[07:24] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> !find beryl
[07:25] <ubotu> Package/file beryl does not exist in edgy
[07:25] <lontra> !seen nosrednaekim
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> !seen
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <lontra> please don't pm mr. ubbotu bot man :)
[07:25] <lontra> !kde4
[07:25] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[07:27] <gentoofan23> !gentoo
[07:27] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:27] <miltos> how can i make my external usbstick writeable???
[07:28] <lontra> !rice
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> miltos: is it fat or ntfs
[07:29] <lupul> hi there. how do i install a bootsplash? i'm not handling very well usplash
[07:29] <lupul> pls pls
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> !bootsplash
[07:29] <miltos> nosrednaekim...it's ntfs
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> install ntfs-3g
[07:29] <Lam_> i'm upgrading my self-compiled gaim 2b5 to 2b6.  can i just ./configure, make, make install and it'll upgrade 2b5, or do i have to uninstall 2b5 first? (and if so, how?)
[07:30] <miltos> ok thanks...
[07:30] <lontra> Lam_: why do you need 2b6 instead of 2b5?  also you should be making deb packages.  i would uninstall 2b5 first
[07:31] <gentoofan23> You can upgrade like that, but in the event that it installs stuff besides that which 2b5 provides, the 2b5 files will still exist.
[07:31] <gentoofan23> In other words, better to do "make uninstall" in the 2b5 source directory
[07:31] <lontra> :o oo.org 2.2rc in feisty ... didn't know they had an oo.org2.2 yet
[07:32] <Hasrat_USA> how can i find out the location of Sun JRE 5 installed in my PC?
[07:32] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: dpkg -s sun-java5-jre
[07:32] <nosrednaekim> Hasrat_USA: type <your program>
[07:32] <lontra> doh
[07:32] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: dpkg -L sun-java5-jre
how to use ntfs-3g?
[07:33] <caotic_> Hi there, what do i have to do to recover grub after installing windows
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs-ng
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs-3g
[07:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:33] <Hasrat_USA> lontra and nosrednaekim what would that command do? java applets run fine in Mozilla, i also have JDK. but in opera applets don't run
[07:33] <lontra> caotic_: reinstall grub...you'll need to chroot into linux and then run grub-install /dev/hd(c or a) and then update-grub
[07:34] <Hasrat_USA> oh wow thanks i think i'm getting it
[07:34] <lontra> caotic_: you can chroot via  alivecd
[07:34] <BluesKaj> caotic_, you could try the SuperGrub disk
[07:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone knows a good P2P program to download music and video that DOES NOT use java?
[07:34] <Hasrat_USA> is this the corrrect path /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/jre ?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[07:35] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent
[07:35] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[07:35] <caotic_> lontra: i got all of that exept how to update grub
[07:35] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: i'm not sure...i don't have java installed at the moment ... but you're interested in plugins
[07:35] <lontra> caotic_: after you've reinstalled grub via the chroot run... sudo update-grub
[07:36] <caotic_> lontra: oh ok
[07:36] <caotic_> thanks
[07:36] <BluesKaj> Hasrat_USA, don't think Ktorrent uses java
[07:36] <lontra> caotic_: np
[07:36] <lontra> ktorrent doesn't use java
[07:36] <Hasrat_USA> BluesKaj:  why are you talking about Ktorrent?
[07:36] <nixternal> KTorrent == c++, just got done doing some code to fix a security issue with releases < 2.1.2 (Breezy to Feisty)
[07:37] <Hasrat_USA> lontra I already have the plugin JRE 5 installed but i have to make opera recognize the path so that it can run applets
[07:37] <BluesKaj> it's torrent client , a good one too
[07:37] <nixternal> Hasrat_USA: do you have sun-java5-plugins installed?
[07:38] <nixternal> if you have those installed, Opera should recognize everything fine as it will read them from the /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins dir
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> but Hasrat_USAwasn't asking...it was LaNCeloT_RW
[07:38] <Hasrat_USA> duh
[07:38] <BluesKaj> oops sorry
[07:38] <Hasrat_USA> hey nixternal lontra sorry it's working now.
[07:38] <nixternal> rock on :)
[07:38] <Hasrat_USA> i made opera validate its path :)
[07:38] <BluesKaj> wasn't paying closenuff attn
[07:39] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: don't apologize for getting it work ;)
[07:39] <nixternal> I heard there is a way to make Opera refresh a tab's contents (a website) at a set interval. anyone know how this is done?
[07:39] <Hasrat_USA> usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08/jre/lib/i386 << in case anyone wants to get java working on Opera
[07:39] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent | LaNCeloT_RW
[07:39] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[07:39] <Hasrat_USA> ktorrent flies
[07:40] <Hasrat_USA> i'm downloading Anti-trust
[07:40] <lontra> Hasrat_USA: windows vista?
[07:40] <LaNCeloT_RW> BluesKaj, tnx
[07:40] <Hasrat_USA> lontra lol what do you mean?
[07:40] <lontra> Anti-trust  < -- some might argue that windows is a trust or a monoply
[07:41] <lontra> *some*
[07:41] <nixternal> everyone, with KTorrent, when you dl a package currently, check out its contents and make sure there aren't any files within the torrent named something like ../../.filename or something. if you see the ../ it can be dangerous until my patches get uploaded here shortly
[07:41] <lontra> or most :D
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> SOME might argue?
[07:41] <Hasrat_USA> MS plays monopoly no doubt and one of the myriads of reasons behind why i fully converted myself from Win to Lin is their corrupt immoral business practice
[07:41] <nixternal> let me rephrase that, dangerous really if you run it as root, but it can still potentially overwrite personal config files is the torrent gets lucky
[07:42] <lontra> nixternal: lol...if you run it as a root...well
[07:42] <Hasrat_USA> if MS din't play monopoly they wouldn't have lost the case to Sun
[07:42] <lontra> nixternal: is it safe to run rm -rf / ?  :D
[07:42] <moi> hi, I',m trying to recompile for nvidia driver; it goes so far and then says I have wrong gcc for my kernel, how do I find out and install right one?
[07:42] <nixternal> sure
[07:42] <nixternal> lontra: you would be amazed at one some people do :)
[07:42] <nixternal> s/one/what
[07:43] <Hasrat_USA> i don't wanna be root
[07:43] <lontra> nixternal: when i first started using linux a few years ago i never realized the danger in running a system as root...
[07:43] <Hasrat_USA> i have nothing to do as a root user
[07:43] <caotic_> how can i see unmounted FS from the console
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> moi: that means the kernel was compilied with a version of GCC other than the one you have
[07:43] <caotic_> like all the partitions in my hd
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> did you complie your won kernel?
[07:44] <lontra> caotic_: fdisk?
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> and then p"
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> in fdisk
[07:44] <lontra> or fdisk -l
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> lontra: thts useful to know
[07:44] <moi> nosrednaekim; so how do I find out what gcc I need?
[07:45] <lontra> i do all my partitioning with fdisk..i never use a GUI partitioning tool
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> moi I don't know.
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> are you following a tutorial?
[07:45] <moi> yes
[07:45] <caotic_> lontra: i tried, but i dont know how to get it to list me the partitions, only the known FS
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> which ome?
[07:45] <BluesKaj> nixternal, thx for the tip , seems rather obvious but a good reminder nontheless
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> *one
[07:45] <moi> nosrednaekim; beryl install
[07:46] <moi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=beryl+nvidia+edgy
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> ok
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> are you running edgy?
[07:46] <moi> yes
[07:47] <nosrednaekim> ok
[07:47] <caotic_> lontra:  sorry i didnt saw your early msj
[07:47] <moi> nosrednaekim; can you help?
[07:47] <payam> what does it mean guys "file ://cdrom/pool/msin/libs/libsigc++-2,0/libsigc++-2,0-0c2a-2,0.16-3-i386.deb was corrupt"
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> moi i'm checkinh
[07:48] <lontra> payam: it failed the md5sum check maybe?
[07:48] <oem> question
[07:48] <moi> nosrednaekim; many thanks
[07:49] <oem> i need the sudo string to mount my secondary harddrive
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> after what does it say that?
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> oem: yes
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> unleess you put it in your fstab
[07:49] <oem> what is the sudo string to mount my secondary hd
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> is your secondary hd hdb?
[07:50] <oem> i know it is hdb1
[07:50] <pablo_> hello!
[07:50] <oem> ntfs
[07:50] <lontra> do you guys know how i can prevent icons from appearing on my desktop when i insert a removable media (cdrom, usb device, ipod)
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt"
[07:50] <lontra> oem: you need ntfs-3g
[07:50] <oem> thank you
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> lontra: but thats a FEATURE!1:-P
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> having fun Cobra_Bubbles?
[07:51] <oem> where do i get that?
[07:51] <lontra> !ntfs-3g
[07:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:51] <lontra> i would mkdir /media/windows
[07:51] <oem> ok one other thing where do i find the list of repositories?
[07:52] <lontra> then .. 'sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/windows'
[07:52] <lontra> !sources
[07:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> moi: what step does it fail on?
[07:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> yip
[07:53] <wincide> do someone know which library (http navigation)  is corrupted in feisty (kubuntu)  . I can only browse the web with opera and links2. Lynx and konqueror report me an error
[07:53] <Cobra_Bubbles> Back to working on my car's design now that my PC is good
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> wincide: what error?
[07:53] <miltos> i installed ntfs-3g and i plugged in my external ntfs HD...but still i can't copy files to it....
[07:53] <wincide> i have msn , irc ,skype, ping, telnet, ftp.. etc but all with "http" does not run
[07:54] <wincide> nosrednaekim: Alert!: HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
[07:54] <wincide>  Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> wincide: hmm ok
[07:54] <wincide> that is the report from lynx www.google.com
[07:54] <wincide> so with konqueror the same
[07:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm wearing pants
[07:55] <wincide> i cant browse anything with http://
[07:55] <wincide> and.. sorry about my english hehe, i dont speak well
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> wincide: file a  bug report with fiesty (or see if there already is a bug report)
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> wincide: your english is fine
[07:56] <wincide> where can i find that report??
[07:56] <wincide> hehe thx
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> !bugs
[07:56] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:56] <wincide> :P
[07:56] <BluesKaj> wincide why are you trying to browse on the internet in windows from kubuntu ?
[07:56] <wincide> BluesKaj:  i dont understand that. . sorry :S
[07:56] <miltos> i installed ntfs-3g and i plugged in my external ntfs HD...but still i can't copy files to it....
[07:56] <wincide> windows??
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: he never said anything about windows
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> moi: are you here?
[07:57] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  uff i cant see that sites
[07:58] <wincide> i cant see nothing with http :S
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> wincide: right..well why are you using fiesty anyway?
[07:58] <wincide> thats my real problem, i cant navigate, so i cant look for a solution
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> wincide I thought you could with opera?
[07:58] <jarhead-x> hey all..fedora/centos user trying out kubuntu
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> jarhead-x: how do you like it
[07:59] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  hehe 'cause i need pci internal card reader, impossible with edgy
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> wincide: for opera?
[07:59] <wincide> so, with feisty kernel i tought i can
[07:59] <jarhead-x> pretty cool so far...I like the theory and purpose
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> wincide: oh I get you
[07:59] <wincide> if i knew that , i would remain in edgy
[07:59] <Filthpig> miltos: it's a permissions-issue
[08:00] <wincide> but i cant go back now, isnt it? or can i go back to edgy ?
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> wincide, you'd have to reinstall
[08:00] <wincide> brff
[08:00] <jarhead-x> the whole universe multiverse commercial nvidia driver install is supposed to be easy right?
[08:00] <Filthpig> you don't have permission to write to ntfs by default
[08:00] <wincide> too many work to trash
[08:00] <wincide> :S
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> jarhead-x: if you don't want the latest driver, yes
 in which group should the default user (created by installation) should belong to???
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> wincide: ahh
[08:00] <jarhead-x> ahh ic
[08:00] <oem> hey i hjave had to reinstall 6 times in a week  it is actualy less painfull than windows re install
[08:01] <devilsadvocate> the default ntfs does not have write capability
[08:01] <jarhead-x> no matter what...I can't get nvidia-glx to show up in adept
[08:01] <wincide> now i' ve made a backup of /home, but too many configurations.. personal servers .. to reinstall :S
[08:01] <devilsadvocate> irrespective of permission
[08:01] <Filthpig> devilsadvocate: ntfs-3g does
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> jarhead-x: are you in the live cd?
 in which group should the default user (created by installation) should belong to???
[08:01] <jarhead-x> fresh install
[08:01] <devilsadvocate> Filthpig, ntfs-3g is not default :P
[08:01] <Filthpig> hehe
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> ok, you need to enable the multiverse and ubiverse repoitories
[08:01] <miltos> i wan't to check it's rights in order to fix the problem
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> you know how to do that jarhead-x?
[08:02] <jarhead-x> yeah...
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> did you do it?
[08:02] <devilsadvocate> miltos, what permissions problem do you have?
[08:02] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  do u know how to see what libraries need konqueror and lynx to http connections ??
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> wincide. no
[08:02] <Filthpig> devilsadvocate: 18:37]  <intelikey> Filthpig you mean built-in support ?    all ubuntu releases have support via ntfs3-g
[08:02] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  well , thx for all anyway
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> I thought opera was working?
[08:02] <miltos> i can't not write to the external ntfs hd drive
[08:02] <ubuntu> hola alguien habla espaol?
[08:03] <BluesKaj> !es
[08:03] <wincide> sure nosrednaekim , but i need konqui :/
[08:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:03] <devilsadvocate> Filthpig, last time i checked you needed to add a repo and do an apt-get install to enable it
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> wincide: you need what?
[08:03] <Filthpig> devilsadvocate: that was what I thought too
[08:03] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  konqueror
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> wincide: why do you need that? browse for a fix in opera.
[08:03] <wincide> because of scripts, shortcuts and more, made for konqueror
[08:04] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  yes ,i ll try
[08:04] <wincide> thx for all
[08:04] <wincide> :)
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> I didn't do anything
[08:04] <devilsadvocate> Filthpig , i dont know about fiesty, but it certainly is far from default in edgy. irrespective of what intelikey has to say about it :|
[08:04] <wincide> nosrednaekim:  at least you tried to help , thats enough for me
[08:04] <wincide> :)
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> wincide: k
[08:05] <nosrednaekim> I have to go all.... God bless ya'll
[08:06] <jarhead-x> hey nos...on a fresh install, where do I need to add universe multiverse to get nvidia-glx to show?
[08:06] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, do you mind the command line?
[08:06] <jarhead-x> nope...shoot
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> jarhead-x: you can enable them in adept
[08:06] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, open up a terminal, type in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. follow devilsadvocate bye all
[08:07] <jarhead-x> im there
[08:07] <devilsadvocate> find the lines starting with "deb" that relate to universe and multiverse
[08:07] <Filthpig> anyway, I've got a nice story to tell people about the power of LiveCDs :) My brother called me an hour and a half ago and told me his winXP had gotten it's registry messed up, so winXP wouldn't start. The only way to solve that is by reinstalling and hence losing all your data, as we all know. So I told him to use the Kubuntu LiveCD I gave him last weekend (luckily:) and mount his C: and external hdd and copy his files over to the ext
[08:07] <Filthpig> hdd from C:. He's doing that right now, and will reinstall windows when all his files are safe
[08:07] <devilsadvocate> remove the # from the beginning of those lines
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> Filthpig: GREAT!
[08:08] <nosrednaekim> Filthpig:  not install linux..;)
[08:08] <jarhead-x> the only ones that I have with uni multi are backports?
[08:08] <jarhead-x> fresh install
[08:08] <jarhead-x> haven't done a thing yet this time
[08:08] <Filthpig> nosrednaekim: I sure hope he will leave a partition for linux when he reinstalls :)
[08:08] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, from what i rememebr the lines are just commented out. there will be a small paragraph explaing what repo each line talks of
[08:09] <jarhead-x> cool...I think I know what ones you are talking about. I will try that again..didn't work last time
[08:10] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, once you remove the # from the beginnnig of those lines, save the file with ctrl+o
[08:10] <devilsadvocate> and exit with ctrl+x
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> jarhead-x: or you could use my sources list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9886/
[08:10] <vaale> salve ho un problema con lo schermo qualcuno mi pu aiutare
[08:10] <jarhead-x> yep...I use vi tho
[08:10] <vaale> ??
[08:10] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, then update your list with sudo apt-get update
[08:10] <jarhead-x> LOL
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> !es | vaale
[08:10] <ubotu> vaale: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:10] <devilsadvocate> to each his own, jarhead-x :)
[08:11] <vaale> italian?
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> !it
[08:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:11] <space_ninja> can you see an a with two dots over it?   ?
[08:11] <Filthpig> yes
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> yes
[08:12] <jarhead-x> I feel kind dumb..I actually used to teach linux at the local community college...ubuntu is different
[08:12] <space_ninja> ok
[08:13] <devilsadvocate> jarhead-x, ubuntu is supposed to be made easier.. for normal people :)
[08:13] <jarhead-x> yeah...I am all about that
[08:13] <jarhead-x> the big reason I am looking to switch is on the server side
[08:13] <BluesKaj> jarhead-x, as you prolly already know kubuntu is debian based
[08:13] <jarhead-x> yep
[08:14] <jarhead-x> I have worn the redhat, then slack, then fedora, then centos for the last couple years
[08:14] <jarhead-x> never really got too deep into deb
[08:15] <BluesKaj> debian ran well on my old 266hhz MMX pc so I switched kubuntu when  I bought this pc
[08:15] <jarhead-x> I see ubuntu server becoming a "certified" enterprise os soon
[08:16] <jarhead-x> and...I am all about making it easier for flash, java, and commercial drivers
[08:16] <olie> Hi I was in here a few days ago with this problem but i new info. My problem is that my computer freezes randomly when i watch a movie, i can still hear the sound but neither mouse nor keyboard is responding. Last time i was in here I got the tip that it might be ACPI or my player(vlc), i tried another player (xine) with the same result, I tried to boot without ACPI support but that resultet in a kernel panic error (acpi=off noacpi, as kenerl
[08:16] <olie> paramters). Im new to linux so i have no idea where to start looking for error codes and such, can anyone help ?
[08:16] <jarhead-x> I kind of agree with Eric Raymond on the whole driver issue
[08:17] <flight> Hello, does anyone know how to map 2 domains to 1 IP address?
[08:18] <jarhead-x> flight...you need to point your dns to the same ip
[08:18] <Lynoure> flight: domains like ?????.com? You just set the dns zone data right for both.
[08:19] <miltos> i can't write to my external ntfs driver
[08:19] <miltos> ...sorry drive
[08:20] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g | miltos
[08:20] <ubotu> miltos: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:20] <flight>  hmmm, okay if my dns host is easy dns ... and I update via dynamic dns, what tool do I use to do that?
[08:21] <jarhead-x> sry flight..never used easy dns or dyn dns
[08:22] <flight> no prob!
[08:23] <jarhead-x> i take it that you dont have a static ip?
[08:24] <miltos> connection to packages.freecontriub.org extremely slow...
[08:25] <miltos> connection to packages.freecontrib.org extremely slow...is there any other source...???
[08:26] <superkirbyartist> I am having a hard time using iMac G3 Microphone (internal or external).  Can someone help please?
[08:26] <jarhead-x> hey olie...you might also try noapic pci=nomsi
[08:26] <binks> how do i check current running processes and what cpu/memory they are using
[08:27] <olie> jarhead-x: ok, thanks
[08:27] <jarhead-x> binks: command line top
[08:27] <flight> jarhead-x: exactly dynamic IP
[08:27] <chavo> binks, Ctrl-esc or top in console
[08:27] <superkirbyartist> I am having a hard time using iMac G3 Microphone (internal or external).  Can someone help please?
[08:27] <lontra> polyester is nice :D
[08:28] <binks> :) cheeers chavo jarhead-x
[08:28] <jarhead-x> flight: I need to setup a dyndns site someday to see how that all works
[08:28] <olie> jarhead-x: is there a log file with information about these crashes ? like a loggfile for acpi activity (if it really is acpi that is causing it)
[08:28] <flight> it's surprisingly easy, just find a registrar who supports dyn dns, pick a dyn dns client ..configure and go
[08:28] <binks> wow ktorrent uses 48% of my 3 gig p4 is that normal
[08:29] <superkirbyartist> I am having a hard time using iMac G3 Microphone (internal or external).  Can someone help please?
[08:29] <flight> of course the unique twist of putting two domains on that one IP throws a cog in the works
[08:29] <jarhead-x> olie: good question...can you ssh to the locked up box from another pc on your network?
[08:29] <chavo> binks, it csn get CPU heavy at times
[08:30] <jarhead-x> maybe the gui is just locked and the system is still available?
[08:30] <Tonren> How do I change katapult's options?
[08:30] <chavo> I set the memory usage to high and the refresh to 1s it seems to chill it out some
[08:30] <olie> jarhead-x: I only got one computer so i can try, since i can still hear the sound some parts of the system is still alive :)
[08:30] <olie> *can't
[08:30] <chavo> Tonren, hit ctrl-c wile the katapult window is open
[08:31] <Tonren> chavo: I... I think I love you.
[08:31] <chavo> aww shucks!
[08:31] <Lynoure> Tonren: Unfortunately the options are not very flexible.
[08:31] <jarhead-x> if you can do a dmesg on a command line by doing ctrl alt f5 you might get some info
[08:31] <jarhead-x> if it will ctl alt f5 for you
[08:31] <Tonren> Lynoure: chavo: How do I stop it from trying to be transparent?
[08:31] <Tonren> I have Beryl now, so I can just make everything transparent with that
[08:32] <Tonren> No need for fake transparency.
[08:32] <Hasrat_USA> torren tell me what you have to do to make a particular window trasparent
[08:32] <Hasrat_USA> i'm just testing ya :P
[08:32] <Tonren> Hasrat_USA: In Beryl Settings, you go to Window Manager and then click on "Change specific window settings" or whatever
[08:32] <Hasrat_USA> tell me about the easiest and quickest way
[08:32] <chavo> Tonren, not sure
[08:32] <Tonren> Hasrat_USA: If you go to berylproject.org you'll find a quick guide
[08:33] <Hasrat_USA> duh that would take a long time :P
[08:33] <Hasrat_USA> try this: press alter and roll your mouse up and down like merry-go-round :P
[08:34] <Tonren> Hasrat_USA: Yeah, you can change the Hue/Saturation/Alpha
[08:35] <binks> chavo: that took it down to about 26% thats a bit better cheers
[08:35] <Lynoure> Tonren: I do not think you can change that in Katapult, just choose between Glass and Pure, both transparent
[08:35] <Tonren> Lynoure: Lame... that's really lame.  Why force transparency if it's not even REAL transparency?
[08:36] <chavo> binks, it doesn't usually use that much here
[08:36] <Hasrat_USA> Beryl is not supported on Ubuntu Dapper. Please consider upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu instead
[08:36] <Lynoure> Tonren: that's the least of the unconfigurability. Try changing the order of catalogs, for example.
[08:36] <miltos> can i remove packages.freecontrib.org from my repositories???
[08:36] <Tonren> Lynoure: Is Katapult still maintained?  Iwonder how tough it is to hack on
[08:37] <Lynoure> Tonren: The source is still out there. I do not know more than that. I've been eyeing changing the catalog thing myself but I seem permanently busy
[08:37] <Tonren> Lynoure: Likewise.  I barely have time fo rmy own projects, much less OSS
[08:39] <Fizzbane> !nvidia
[08:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <Skuller> !botabuse
[08:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:40] <Tonren> Bot abuse?
[08:40] <Tonren> !take_off_your_clothes
[08:40] <Fizzbane> haha
[08:40] <BluesKaj> miltos, yes
[08:40] <miltos> ok...
[08:41] <Skuller> lol
[08:41] <Skuller> !botscream
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botscream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <Fizzbane> How do i enable restricted repositories in kubuntu?
[08:41] <Skuller> !my clothes | ubotu
[08:41] <BluesKaj> miltos, I have removed dead or whay appear to non working repos with no ill effects
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my clothes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <jarhead-x> hey fizz.
[08:42] <Fizzbane> yeah
[08:42] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <Skuller> !repos
[08:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:42] <jarhead-x> i am also working on the whole repo thing...I am very new to kubuntu/debian
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[08:42] <Fizzbane> so am i
[08:43] <Skuller> so am i
[08:43] <Fizzbane> i need nvidia video drivers
[08:43] <jarhead-x> in gui...use adept then file, manage repositories
[08:43] <jarhead-x> that is what I am working on too man
[08:43] <jarhead-x> just finished doing a full update
[08:43] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with Ekiga.  How can I add an ekiga.net account, please?
[08:43] <jarhead-x> we will figure it out dude
[08:43] <BluesKaj> +
[08:43] <Fizzbane> hope so
[08:44] <jarhead-x> so did you do start, system, adept
[08:44] <jarhead-x> then file manage repos?
[08:45] <__-osh-__> where's the firefox plugin directory? ./mozilla/firefox/...then what?
[08:45] <Fizzbane> i am doing that now
[08:45] <stef___> Hallo kan ik een vraagje in het Nederlands ???
[08:45] <jarhead-x> hey nos...you still around
[08:45] <BluesKaj> repos are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <oem> ok how do i install ntfsg in the terminal window
[08:45] <__-osh-__> !nl
[08:45] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:45] <jarhead-x> heh...I am a boot when it comes to irc too..LOL
[08:46] <Fizzbane> i opened the adept
[08:47] <__-osh-__> Is "extensions" and "plugins" the same thing? I'm looking at this page http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/firefox-linux.html#install-java
[08:47] <jarhead-x> fizz: we are supposed to be able to see nvidia-glx in the list of packages
[08:47] <__-osh-__> !java
[08:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:47] <oem> ok how do i install ntfsg in the terminal window
[08:47] <jarhead-x> we need to modify our repository config
[08:48] <jarhead-x> adept, manage repositories
[08:48] <BluesKaj> oem, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g, but make sure you the repository in the sourceslist
[08:48] <Fizzbane> i have no idea
[08:48] <Fizzbane> im using 2 tuts
[08:48] <Fizzbane> !nvidia
[08:48] <oem> i dont know what the repositiry was so i downloaded  it
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <jarhead-x> if you have adept open...click on adept at the top then manage repos
[08:48] <superkirbyartist> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
[08:49] <jarhead-x> cool.. ubo...thanks
[08:49] <coreymon77> guys
[08:49] <oem> the nvidia drivers are in Synaptic package amnager
[08:49] <coreymon77> are there any programs for kubuntu that can take a dvd and make an iso out of ones on the dvd?
[08:50] <Fizzbane> k
[08:50] <superkirbyartist> I CAN'T GET THE STUPID EKIGA TO WORK AND NO ONE HELPS ME!
[08:50] <Doomedelite> Try the forums
[08:50] <BluesKaj> what is the file , oem?
[08:50] <superkirbyartist> WE'VE ALREADY TRIED THE STUPID FORUMS!
[08:50] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: no, its a game cd
[08:50] <__-osh-__> superkirbyartist: Perhaps because noone here knows the answer. And turn off caps please.
[08:50] <oem> just click the search and type in Nvidia
[08:50] <Doomedelite> ubuntuforums.org? kubuntuforums.org?
[08:50] <oem> in the synaptic window
[08:51] <superkirbyartist> __-osh-__ I'm looking for ekiga.net account info (registrar, etc.).  Is that too much to ask?
[08:51] <Fizzbane> jarhead
[08:51] <Fizzbane> ?
[08:51] <Doomedelite> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
[08:51] <BluesKaj> oem, so you installed it with synaptic ?
[08:51] <oem> the file i need to install is the ntfs-3g i just did the sudo and it didnt work :(
[08:52] <superkirbyartist> Doomedelite it's not helping me!
[08:52] <oem> yes i did
[08:52] <jarhead-x> yeah fizz
[08:52] <jarhead-x> I am going to install the synaptic package manager..
[08:52] <Doomedelite> All of the information is there, I don't see how it doesn't.
[08:52] <jarhead-x> I tried that earlier...but I have a fresh install today
[08:52] <superkirbyartist> EVERYTIME I ASK SOMETHING NO ONE CARES!
[08:53] <__-osh-__> superkirbyartist: Since I've never even seen ekiga I can't really help. Perhaps that's true for most in here since noone is answering your question?
[08:53] <oem> yeah i felt like that to lol i had to leave for a while
[08:53] <Doomedelite> Yea, no one really uses it
[08:53] <Doomedelite> Use skype if you want to talk online
[08:53] <moi> ?gcc
[08:53] <Doomedelite> Or asterisk for VOIP
[08:53] <moi> !gcc
[08:53] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:53] <BluesKaj> oem , have you rebooted since installing ntfs-3g ?
[08:54] <moi> Hi, I have wrong gcc for my kernel, how to fix?
[08:54] <oem> ummm no the last time i had to do this someone gave me the string for terminal and  i didnt have to reboot
[08:54] <BluesKaj> did what, oem ?
[08:55] <coreymon77> guys
[08:55] <__-osh-__> moi: Huh? Wrong gcc for your kernel? Please explain more. ;-)
[08:55] <coreymon77> is there any program for kubuntu that can take a dvd and make an iso out of the data on the dvd
[08:55] <oem> i have had to reinstall a few times so i have had to get the string a few times to install ntfs-3g this time i am writing it down lol
[08:56] <Doomedelite> coreymon77: Can't you just right-click on the DVD and "Make Image"?
[08:56] <moi> I try to install vnidia driver, I have build essential + headers etc. It fail and say my kernel was made with another gcc, how do I find out what version I need?
[08:56] <coreymon77> nope
[08:56] <BluesKaj> well oem, I would reboot..after all you dealing with windows indirectly and you must know what that means :)
[08:56] <oem> i know i am newbie and frustrating to deal with i am sorry
[08:57] <oem> ok ok i will reboot hope this works
[08:57] <BluesKaj> don't be .
[08:57] <BluesKaj> sorry
[08:58] <Kutu> hello
[08:59] <moi> __-osh-__;  I try to install vnidia driver, I have build essential + headers etc. It fail and say my kernel was made with another gcc, how do I find out what version I need?
[08:59] <Kutu> NECESITO AYUDA-1
[08:59] <Kutu> !QUEI ME AYUDA!!
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quei me ayuda!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <sven> Und nu?
[09:00] <Kutu> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL?????
[09:00] <__-osh-__> !e
[09:00] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[09:00] <__-osh-__> !es
[09:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:01] <__-osh-__> moi: What's the exact error msg? I seem to recall having a similar problem some years ago.
[09:01] <jarhead-x> fizz: still no luck here on the nvidia driver thing
[09:01] <oem> still do not see the drive
[09:01] <jarhead-x> I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but still cannot see nvidia-glx
[09:01] <Kokos> hello. i got a problem with digikam lastly. it says "Failed to connect to camera. Please make sure its connected properly and turned on. Would you like to try again?". is it common? i think it happens after my kubuntu software update..
[09:02] <Kokos> with sudo it works
[09:02] <__-osh-__> Could someone who has java installed visit this link (http://forsakringskassan.se/inloggning/inloggning_bidt.html) and tell me if they get a java-login-window.
[09:02] <oem> Jarhead if you search in synaptic you will find 5 drivers  for nvidia
[09:02] <Kokos> seems like udev permissions problem
[09:02] <Kokos> but i dont know how solve it...
[09:02] <moi> __-osh-__ I am not sure of exact wording; the meaning was just that my kernel was compiled with another version of gcc than I have currently installed.
[09:03] <jarhead-x> oem...I just see nvidia-kernel-common
[09:03] <ubuntu> hello which file sytem i choise for root file sytem?
[09:03] <jarhead-x> and nvidia-xconfig
[09:03] <moi> __-osh-__ I need to find out what version of gcc I need to recompile my current kernel, and what command to install that version of gcc.
[09:03] <oem> So i rebooted after entering the sudo string for my hardrive and rebooted and still cannot see the drive
[09:04] <darkdead> ??
[09:04] <darkdead> any help
[09:04] <jarhead-x> hey oem...what changes did you make to see nvidia-glx
[09:04] <jarhead-x> repo changes that is
[09:04] <oem> um you may need to run your updates i only see them after i do that
[09:05] <jarhead-x> yeah..did that
[09:05] <oem> there is a repository that i had to get off of the repository page that shows more updates
[09:05] <darkdead> ok which file sytem i choise for install linux base file sytem  : )
[09:05] <__-osh-__> moi: If you need to recompile your kernel the gcc you have installed should be fine. But somehow I don't think that's the problem. I'm trying to remember but it was very long ago. And i'm trying to solve a java problem of my own at the same time.
[09:05] <oem> i had to add the repositry
[09:06] <__-osh-__> darkdead: Use reiserfs. It's a killer...
[09:06] <darkdead> ok ty
[09:06] <flight> Oh -osh- that was bad!! :p
[09:06] <jarhead-x> so proprietary drivers arent going to be in fiesty now?
[09:07] <jarhead-x> by default anyway?
[09:07] <__-osh-__> flight: I'm actually quite pleased with it. ;-)
[09:07] <oem> i am using edgy jarhead that is probably why i see them and you dont
[09:07] <jarhead-x> I have edgy too man
[09:07] <oem> hmm ok
[09:07] <binks> edgy rocks fiesty isnt ready yet
[09:07] <jarhead-x> I think I just need to get the right repos setup and I will be good
[09:07] <moi> ok no problem.
[09:08] <oem> well the depositroy i think it it is is on a link the mods in here always paste when someone asks for help on repositires
[09:08] <moi> Anyone else, can you help.....
[09:08] <moi> I tryed to install NVidia driver, I have build essential + headers etc. It failed and said my kernel was made with another version of gcc.
[09:08] <moi> I need to find out what version of gcc I need to recompile my current kernel, and what command to install that version
[09:08] <jarhead-x> I read that commercial drivers for ati and nvidia will be installed by default eventually in ubuntu
[09:08] <Fizzbane> Jarhead how did you get adept to get restricted repositories?
[09:09] <jarhead-x> fizz: they are enabled by default I think
[09:09] <__-osh-__> moi: But if you want to try to recompile your kernel, feel free to do so. Your current gcc is fine.
[09:09] <moi> it is not.
[09:09] <binks> Fizzbane: add them to sources.list
[09:09] <moi> I have tryed
[09:09] <BluesKaj> oem , why not just do an ordinary shut down and restart...why do you need to use a string in the terminal ?
[09:09] <Fizzbane> binks: what do you mean?
[09:09] <__-osh-__> moi: You tried compiling the kernel? Not the nvidia drivers.
[09:09] <oem> just seems like it works better in the terminal
[09:09] <binks> !repositories
[09:09] <moi> the driver install trys to recompile the kernel
[09:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:09] <oem> and i did a total shutdown
[09:09] <moi> and failed
[09:10] <BD> I am logged in as BackwardsDown on freenode.net
[09:10] <Fizzbane> thanks binks
[09:10] <oem> jarhead follow that link and add the repository to you list refresh and then go to synaptic
[09:10] <BD> but now I cant be BackwardsDown here
[09:10] <__-osh-__> moi: Are you sure it isn't just trying to compile a kernel module to insert into the current kernel?
[09:10] <BD> the nickname is already chosen
[09:11] <moi> no, I'm not sure.
[09:11] <moi> in any case, I need the version of gcc that the driver install can work with.
[09:11] <__-osh-__> moi: I think that's what the nvidia script does. It did in RHES3 some year or two ago anyway.
[09:12] <moi> I've installed the drivers before on dapper, it all went well enough...
[09:12] <moi> ... but this has me stuck
[09:12] <BackwardsDown2> found it: irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net have the same channels
[09:12] <__-osh-__> moi: The error message would be helpful I think.
[09:12] <Fizzbane> binks: that site tells me how to add universe and multiverse
[09:13] <moi> ok, I'll get it ;)
[09:14] <oem> Jarhead: you still here?
[09:14] <jarhead-x> yeah
[09:14] <jarhead-x> I still cannot see nvidia-glx in the list man
[09:14] <oem> paste this into your repository list  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[09:15] <jarhead-x> hmm even tho I am using edgy
[09:15] <oem> yes i did it and it work
[09:16] <oem> be sure to paste deb in there
[09:17] <shadowhywind> hay all i have a stupid question to ask. How can i tell if i have kubuntu 32 or  64-bit version installed?
[09:17] <Fizzbane> oem or jarhead, how did you get restricted repos in kubuntu?
[09:18] <oem> i did it by following this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:18] <jarhead-x> oem...does nvidia-glx show up in your list? I added the line above then apply and still don't see nvidia-glx
[09:18] <oem> yeah it showed up
[09:18] <Fizzbane> so the universe and multiverse works?
[09:19] <oem> yes
[09:19] <jarhead-x> are you running amd64 oem?
[09:19] <jarhead-x> i am
[09:19] <Fizzbane> i love amd
[09:20] <oem> um yea
[09:20] <jarhead-x> hey fizzbane...are you running the amd64 version of kubuntu edgy?
[09:20] <oem> amd 64
[09:20] <oem> i count 11 compoonents i can install for Nvidia
[09:20] <Fizzbane> Im running the desktop amd version not the alternative one
[09:20] <BluesKaj> make sure you change any dapper repos to edgy in the sources list if you're running edgy
[09:21] <oem> wish i could take a screen shot then i could show ya what i see lol
[09:21] <fernando> I have a external hard disk plug on my kubuntu, but I only can read and I can't modify anything..
[09:21] <fernando> why???
[09:21] <jarhead-x> yeah...this is a bummer
[09:22] <BluesKaj> this site has a great list for commercial pkgs http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=637.new
[09:22] <jarhead-x> I know how to install the nvidia driver off of nvidia.com like I do in fedora
[09:22] <jarhead-x> but that kind of defeats the reason why I am thinking about moving to kubuntu
[09:23] <oem> you must be missing an update of some sort
[09:23] <oem> what Nvidia card you have?
[09:24] <jarhead-x> bfg 7950 512mb
[09:24] <BluesKaj> jarhead-x,http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[09:24] <oem> i know that for my card it is rather common the geforce is
[09:25] <jarhead-x> hey blue...someone said earlier that the ubuntu repos do not use the latest version
[09:25] <moi> hi, my gcc was correct, it was just that I had not restarted to the new kernel i had just got from update!
[09:25] <mdtyke> Hey.  can someone please tell me where to set Environment Variables
[09:25] <mdtyke> I need to set them for Java to work
[09:26] <jarhead-x> I am trying to see for myself what everyone is talking about with drivers being easy to install with kubuntu
[09:26] <BluesKaj> yes jarhead-x, that's why some pkgs need to be compiled or downloaded
[09:26] <mdtyke> Anyone? :(
[09:26] <oem> take it from me this is a learning experiance i went straight from windows to Kubuntu
[09:27] <jarhead-x> mdtyke: /etc/profile for all users
[09:27] <BluesKaj> it's relatively pain free DLing and installing drivers or other pkges that aren't in the repos...and I'm a relative noob
[09:27] <jryhiggins> hi
[09:27] <mdtyke> Its all if statements
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> how can i watch embedded videos in websites such as flightlevel350.com using Opera?
[09:27] <mdtyke> how do I define them?
[09:28] <mdtyke> Do I hear FL350.. another aviation fan eh? :D
[09:28] <jryhiggins> i keep getting "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia" and im now in irssi trying to make my nvidia driver work
[09:28] <mdtyke> And another Opera fan? :D
[09:28] <mdtyke> Download MPlayer, Hasrat
[09:28] <jarhead-x> google environment variables etc profile
[09:29] <Hasrat_USA> uh um...
[09:29] <mdtyke> Mind you, I couldnt get it to work in Opera either.. I had to use Firefox for videos
[09:29] <jryhiggins> can someone help me please?
[09:29] <oem> so does anyone have any ideas links or anything for me to find my HDB1
[09:29] <jryhiggins> when i modprobe nvidia i get the error and whenever x starts i get the error and it takes me to terminal
[09:30] <Hasrat_USA> im gonna make it work. nothing's impossible, said the world's greatest hacker to John Travolta before beginnigng to hack the department of defense system in 60 seconds
[09:30] <Hasrat_USA> movie : swordfish :P
[09:30] <binks> Hasrat_USA: good movie too
[09:30] <oem> swordfish was a grand movie
[09:30] <SSJ_GZ> jryhiggins: How did you install the driver?
[09:30] <Hasrat_USA> Anti-trust is too real. they used real linux machines in it
[09:31] <jryhiggins> ssj_gz: with sudo apt-get other than that it was the same as the tutorial
[09:31] <oem> never saaww that
[09:31] <Hasrat_USA> i don't know why but Anti-trust is an awesome movie but it didn't create too much turbulence in box office and also not too many people know about it
[09:31] <SSJ_GZ> jryhiggins: Hmmm ... I don't know, then - sorry :/
[09:32] <binks> !nvidia | jryhiggins
[09:32] <ubotu> jryhiggins: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <binks> did u follow this tut
[09:33] <jryhiggins> can someone help me please? i get this error: "FATAL: Error running install comand for nvidia" whenever x starts or i mod probe it
[09:33] <jryhiggins> binks: i did that thats what lead to this problem
[09:33] <oem> i actualy tried that from that link i shut down and restarted and the os crashed hard
[09:33] <binks> ok replace xorg.cong with the backup to get your system back up
[09:34] <binks> .conf
[09:34] <jryhiggins> binks: yeah i know that, its just i need the 3d acceleration
[09:34] <binks> what does xorg.log say
[09:34] <jryhiggins> binks: let me check
[09:35] <Fizzbane> how do i know if im going to compile 3d applications?
[09:35] <jryhiggins> binks: nothing in the log
[09:35] <binks> hmm have you searched the forum
[09:35] <jryhiggins> binks well nothing in /etc/X11/xorg.log
[09:35] <jryhiggins> binks: yes and i cant find anything
[09:36] <binks> im on ati but ill have a search for ya
[09:36] <jryhiggins> thnx
[09:36] <binks> gis a s ec
[09:36] <Fizzbane> will i need to compile 3d applications?
[09:37] <eXistenZ> Does anyone have P4 Prescott here?
[09:37] <jryhiggins> fizzbane: depends on what you want
[09:37] <Fizzbane> well how would i know?
[09:37] <oem> my newbie brain is getting a newbie headache brb
[09:37] <jryhiggins> fizzbane: if you have to ask then you dont need it
[09:38] <Fizzbane> if i want xgl do i need it?
[09:38] <jryhiggins> no
[09:38] <binks> eXistenZ:  i have why
[09:38] <Fizzbane> ok
[09:38] <binks> help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/hardware.html | jryhiggins
[09:39] <jryhiggins> binks: i dont have a browser, im in terminal
[09:39] <binks> jryhiggins: what does the device section of xorg.conf look like pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:39] <jryhiggins> no browser......
[09:40] <jryhiggins> your looking for driver name? "nvidia"
[09:40] <binks> ok nano xorg.conf
[09:40] <Hasrat_USA> i'm going to quit konversation and come back with Opera's built-in chat client, given that it works :D
[09:40] <BluesKaj> FF has chatzilla
[09:40] <eXistenZ> binks: what's your cpu temp
[09:41] <binks> ok tell me how to find that out eXistenZ
[09:41] <jryhiggins> binks: my video card name is there and driver "nvidia" and then end of section
[09:41] <binks> Section "Device"
[09:41] <binks> Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] "
[09:41] <binks> Driver          "nvidia"
[09:41] <binks> BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[09:41] <binks> is there no BusId
[09:41] <jryhiggins> binks: i can change driver name to "nv" and it will load x without 3d acceleration
[09:42] <jryhiggins> binks: no busid, correct, do i need that?
[09:42] <jryhiggins> binks: its an agp card
[09:42] <binks> just check what it says in the backup conf
[09:43] <binks> mine is agp too it still shows up pci
[09:43] <jryhiggins> binks: but if i make it the sasme as the backup i wont get 3d accel
[09:43] <binks> no just the BusID bit
[09:43] <binks> anyone else got a nvidia card
[09:43] <binks> please just checkj the xorg.conf filke
[09:43] <HasratUSA> bah! the client is really built-in. no seperate program is needed :)
[09:45] <jryhiggins> binks: i made the busid the same and i still get the same error
[09:45] <oem> i have nvidi geforce
[09:45] <binks> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  jryhiggins
[09:46] <unico> hi
[09:46] <jryhiggins> binks: done and i still get the same error on modprobe
[09:46] <oem> what repository is wine on?
[09:46] <jryhiggins> !wine | oem
[09:46] <ubotu> oem: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:47] <HasratUSA> how to chage the color of the background of this built-in opera irc chat client?
[09:47] <Fizzbane> I followed these instructions on how to install nvidia drivers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but somehow it didnt work.
[09:47] <jryhiggins> binks any more ideas?
[09:48] <binks> im just on google gis 2 mins
[09:48] <binks> looking for ideas
[09:48] <jryhiggins> binks: thank you i appreciate it
[09:49] <oem> ok last tim ei followed that link the system crashed at startup blaming the repositry
[09:49] <jryhiggins> oem: type sudo apt-get install wine
[09:49] <binks> jryhiggins: just do me a lspci
[09:50] <oem> ok i did that now what do i do
[09:50] <binks> is the card in the same place as the BusI
[09:50] <binks> oem there a good tutorialks on wine in the forums too indepth for here m8 will take allk night
[09:50] <jryhiggins> binks: only thing close is "vga compatible controler: nvidia corperation NV17"
[09:51] <jryhiggins> oem now you use wine
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> Isn't there a system wide KDE Autostart dir somewhere in /usr ?
[09:51] <oem> um i dont see an icon or anything?
[09:51] <jryhiggins> binks: my xorg backup busid matches my new xorg busid
[09:52] <jryhiggins> oem: its not windows go read
[09:52] <jarhead-x> fizz: I can't get the apt based install of the commercial nvidia driver to work either
[09:52] <jarhead-x> I might just do it the way I did it in fedora...manual download and install
[09:53] <binks> jryhiggins: where is the id in lspci
[09:53] <jryhiggins> binks 01:00.0
[09:53] <binks> and is that what it now says in conf
[09:54] <Hub441> hi!
[09:54] <jarhead-x> i even tried automatix2 for edgy and it says the same thing Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[09:54] <Hub441> can use the wallet to store passwords for samba shares (konqueror?)
[09:55] <jryhiggins> binks it wasnt but i changed it and then ran modprobe again, and i get the same error
[09:55] <holger> hallo zusammen
[09:56] <draik> What's a good MP3 encoder?
[09:56] <draik> I can't seem to make KAudioCreator work right
[09:56] <draik> I keep getting this error message:
[09:56] <draik> Cannot place file, unable to make directories.
[09:56] <binks> jryhiggins: sorry m8 n run out of time hope you get it sorted
[09:57] <draik> !encoder
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <binks> !lame
[09:57] <draik> !encode
[09:57] <draik> binks: I installed lame already
[09:57] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Hub441> draik: kaudiocreator works fine for me, but i didn't use it for mp3 for a long time, since my ipod can play ogg now...
[09:57] <jryhiggins> binks allright thnx ive tried everything i know, im fixing to give up
[09:58] <jryhiggins> binks: but thnxs
[09:58] <draik> Ok, so how do I go about encoding my CDs into mp3s?
[09:59] <oem> ok wine is installed whew
[09:59] <oem> only took alday and a night
[09:59] <jryhiggins> im getting an error saying "no screens found" and "FATAL: error running the install command for nvidia" when installing my video card
[10:00] <BluesKaj> draik , encoding to mp3 ...what a thing to inflict on good audio
[10:00] <draik> BluesKaj: What do you suggest?
[10:01] <oem> i went and bought an mp3 player so i didnt have to do that to cd's lol
[10:01] <jryhiggins> ok im going to fedora......this problem of mine is kindof gay i thinks
[10:01] <HasratUSA> after antitrust gets downloaded i just don't know what movie to download anymore. anyone got any ideas?
[10:02] <Xanith> my friend upgraded from kubuntu dapper to edgy and now his wireless card doesn't work
[10:02] <Xanith> ndiswrapper gives something about different ndiswrapper versions 1.7 and 1.8 i think
[10:03] <Fizzbane> When i click system settings- moniter settings - admin mode the password box does not appear
[10:03] <Xanith> when running ndiswrapper -i, it gives an error saying it couldn't copy the file on line 135 in /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper
[10:06] <draik> What format should I use to encode? What application should I use?
[10:08] <Hub441> draik: use kaudiocreator, formats: ogg vorbis or flac ;)
[10:09] <draik> I have ogg
[10:09] <Hub441> draik: so whats the problem?
[10:09] <draik> but everytime I run Kaudiocreator, it goes for wav
[10:09] <draik> and it also gives me this error:
[10:09] <draik> Cannot place file, unable to make directories.
[10:10] <bzozo> Hello
[10:10] <draik> Hub441: What do you think I'm doing wrong?
[10:11] <bzozo> Is there an easy way to correct the bug concerning ksnapshot and "up" key while using evdev ?
[10:11] <Hub441> draik: have you choosen a directory where you own rights to write files to?
[10:11] <draik> Hub441: Yes I have. /home/draik/Desktop/Ripped
[10:11] <Hub441> draik: have you choosen the right codec from the menu?
[10:11] <draik> I selected the mp3 encoder
[10:12] <Hub441> draik: enugh free space? (including /tmp)
[10:12] <draik> Yup
[10:12] <Hub441> hmm sry, no idea
[10:13] <bzozo> ?
[10:13] <draik> Hub441: I'm using Ogg right now... let's see where this goes...
[10:14] <Xanith> does edgy eft have known problems with wireless?
[10:14] <draik> Ok
[10:14] <draik> so it's still going with wav
[10:14] <draik> what gives?
[10:16] <draik> I select mp3 and ogg, still creating wav
[10:16] <bzozo> nobody have any idea?
[10:16] <bzozo> :(
[10:17] <Cugel> bzozo: can you be a little more specific?
[10:17] <jarhead-x> fizz you still there
[10:18] <jarhead-x> I ended up getting the latest nvidia drivers to work by just downloading them from nvidia.com and installing them manually
[10:20] <bzozo> Cugel, yes. When I use evdev, ksnapshot is lauched everytime I hit "Up" key
[10:20] <bzozo> Cugel, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/67894 the bug is known
[10:21] <bzozo> But I wonder if there is a easier way to correct this than this patch
[10:21] <bzozo> (I'm french, so pardon my english)
[10:24] <Cugel> bzozo: why not the patch?
[10:25] <xBill> sers @ every1
[10:25] <Fizzbane> I installed the nvidia drivers but i dont get the nvidia splash screen
[10:25] <Fizzbane> is that normal?
[10:25] <xBill> is it important to have the splash ?
[10:25] <xBill> run glxgears
[10:25] <jarhead-x> if you log off...end current session
[10:26] <jarhead-x> then click on the little box to the left of your username
[10:26] <jarhead-x> then restart x server you should see it
[10:26] <Fizzbane> oh
[10:26] <xBill> haven't done that yet ?!
[10:26] <miltos> i've installed ntfs-3g and still i can't save to my external ntfs drive...what's wrong?
[10:26] <jarhead-x> i don't see it on a fresh boot either
[10:27] <xBill> miltos: why do you want to have the external drive in ntfs ?
[10:28] <bzozo> Cugel, maybe I'm dumb, but I dunno what are the .so file affected, which file I must patch, how, how to recompile
[10:29] <Fizzbane> I installed the nvidia drivers and restarted the x server and i still do not get the nvidia splash
[10:29] <miltos> xBill ...it's full of movies and now i want to use in Kubuntu...
[10:29] <bzozo> Hum... I sort of find a workaround
[10:30] <xBill> but u can read files from it ?
[10:30] <Doomedelite> there is no nvidia splash?
[10:30] <Doomedelite> as far as I know
[10:30] <Fizzbane> there is an nvidia splash you are suppose to get, it was in a tut from the handy bot here
[10:31] <washbear> what's the smartest way to disable a faulty laptop keyboard - and then to only use a usb keyboard?
[10:31] <Doomedelite> ah, disregard my comments then :P
[10:31] <Fizzbane> i know what im talking about most of the time
[10:32] <Doomedelite> =)
[10:32] <xBill> fizzbane : does the driver work ?
[10:32] <Fizzbane> I dont know
[10:32] <BluesKaj> a friend installed ubuntu , but he doesn't like gnome ,and his linuxbox isn't connected to the net , is kubuntu-desktop available to him ?
[10:33] <xBill> fizzbane: run glxgears
[10:33] <Doomedelite> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <Fizzbane> xbill: i followed these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:33] <BluesKaj> good i thought so , Doomedelite
[10:34] <xBill> fizzbane: run glxinfo in a terminal and tell me what it says
[10:34] <Doomedelite> fizzbane: You can also run glxinfo | grep version
[10:35] <Doomedelite> fizzbane: and glxinfo | grep direct
[10:35] <Fizzbane> what do i type to run it?
[10:35] <Doomedelite> Just in the terminal
[10:35] <xBill> the first 5 lines are important in this case
[10:35] <Doomedelite> Ah, alright
[10:36] <Fizzbane> what do i type to run it?
[10:36] <Doomedelite> Fizzbane: In your console, type in "glxinfo"
[10:37] <Doomedelite> K Menu > Utilities > Terminal
[10:37] <Fizzbane> k
[10:37] <Fizzbane> so you want the first 5 lines?
[10:38] <xBill> yes
[10:39] <Fizzbane> how can i open it in kate?
[10:39] <xBill> why do you want to ?
[10:39] <Fizzbane> so you can see the first 5 lines
[10:39] <Cugel> fizz: kate FILE    -- that's it
[10:40] <Fizzbane> k glxinfo is open in terminal
[10:40] <Fizzbane> what do you want me to look at?
[10:41] <xBill> glxinfo prints out some information about your graphics card
[10:42] <xBill> we want to see the first fife lines of this information
[10:42] <xBill> fife = 5 ^^
[10:42] <Fizzbane> ok i cant open it in kate
[10:43] <Cugel> What's the error.
[10:43] <BluesKaj> use the terminal konsole , Fizzbane
[10:44] <Fizzbane> i got it open in terminal
[10:44] <xBill> just copy and paste the text from the terminal
[10:44] <Fizzbane> o...k...
[10:44] <Fizzbane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9908/
[10:45] <Cugel> Well kate should just open.
[10:46] <Fizzbane> cugel thats not the problem
[10:46] <xBill> seems like the nvidia driver works
[10:46] <Fizzbane> really?
[10:46] <Fizzbane> ok
[10:46] <Fizzbane> i dont get the splash screen though
[10:46] <xBill> in your terminal, type "glxgears -printfps"
[10:47] <Fizzbane> ok
[10:47] <xBill> how many fps ?
[10:48] <Fizzbane> 9200 ish
[10:48] <xBill> k
[10:48] <Cugel> I get 3894.871 FPS -- looks pretty good (is it?)
[10:48] <xBill> driver works
[10:48] <Fizzbane> oh fps
[10:48] <xBill> cugel: guess yes - which card ?
[10:48] <Fizzbane> 1843 sorry
[10:49] <edward_> Need some help
[10:49] <xBill> edward: just ask
[10:49] <edward_> I have Kubuntu 6.06 installed and wondering how to get macromedia to work with it
[10:49] <Cugel> nVidia 7200 XS or something -- with 512 MB...
[10:50] <Cugel> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:50] <edward_> this is installed on amd64
[10:50] <xBill> cugel: is pretty good
[10:50] <edward_> can i get it using adept?
[10:50] <Cugel> Yep, OpenArena works extremely well. Edward: yes.
[10:51] <draik> what is a WORKING cd encoder? KAudioCreator isn't working
[10:51] <edward_> what do I search for in adept
[10:51] <il> How can I make the launch bar icons smaller?  Thanks!!
[10:51] <Cugel> sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:51] <leileilol> Appearance?
[10:52] <leileilol> Icons > Advanced ?
[10:52] <il> Thanks!  I'll give it a try.
[10:53] <edward_> got an error in terminal trying to load flash
[10:54] <xBill> "an error" can be nearly everything ...
[10:54] <Fizzbane> what do i need to install to get a desktop similar to this http://hight3ch.com/post/more-of-linux-multi-headed-xgl/#more-2314
[10:54] <edward_> I like kubuntu and works fine on i386 system I have but problems on amd64
[10:55] <edward_> if I could get macromedia to work I would be fine
[10:55] <Doomedelite> the amd64 versions have problems running native x86 aps
[10:55] <Doomedelite> edward_: www.winehq.com
[10:55] <edward_> will i386 os work on amd64?
[10:55] <Doomedelite> yes
[10:56] <Doomedelite> but you will not benefit from having a 64 bit processor
[10:56] <Fizzbane> anyone?
[10:56] <Doomedelite> Still, I would install the i386 version just for compatibility reasons
[10:57] <edward_> probably not much difference in speed
[10:57] <xBill> draik: tried abcde yet ?
[10:57] <Fizzbane> does anyone know what i would have to install to get something like this http://hight3ch.com/post/more-of-linux-multi-headed-xgl/#more-2314
[10:58] <draik> xBill: Just installed it
[10:58] <Doomedelite> Fizzbane: That's beryl
[10:58] <Fizzbane> ok
[10:59] <draik> xBill: How do I use abcde?
[10:59] <Fizzbane> doomedelite: what installation would i use, i am on the beryl wiki
[10:59] <draik> !beryl | Fizzbane
[10:59] <ubotu> Fizzbane: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:00] <xBill> draik: don't know -> man abcde
[11:00] <Doomedelite> Fizzbane: There's also auto-install scripts for both ATI: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338771&highlight=beryl+ati+radeon+9600 as well as nVidia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335034
[11:01] <Doomedelite> not sure if they work for kubuntu
[11:01] <Doomedelite> Probably not though
[11:02] <moparisthebest> does anyone have experiance installing kubuntu on SATA RAID drives?
[11:02] <moparisthebest> Ive installed it a lot before, but never on RAID and Im having problems
[11:03] <BluesKaj> !Raid
[11:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:04] <Fizzbane> !nvidia
[11:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <draik> xBill: Ok. I think I got the hang of it, but for some reason abcde is ripping to wav
[11:13] <miltos> i lost the automount feature of external usb devices...what can i do?
[11:14] <xBill> draik: that's not really nice ...
[11:14] <draik> Nope, it's not
[11:14] <xBill> miltos: mount it by hand ;-)
[11:15] <Minataku> [18:14:51]  Cillus If I install Dapper, would I be able to upgrade to Feisty when it's released?
[11:15] <Minataku> Got a relay question here
[11:15] <Minataku> lol
ok...but i want this ability for my kids...
[11:15] <xBill> hm ...
[11:16] <xBill> draik: i have never used abcde yet, cannot help you i guess
[11:17] <draik> xBill: It's ok. I can just use another encoder to change the format
[11:18] <NickGarvey> what is the kde volume control program called?
[11:18] <draik> NickGarvey: kmix?
[11:19] <NickGarvey> ah, thanks a lot
[11:19] <draik> xBill: Nevermind. It automatically turns the wav to OGG right after
[11:19] <xBill> k
[11:21] <david___> i tried to install beryl through the konsole following the wiki but it done nothing and when i try it thru adept it breaks the install. any ideas on why this isnt working?
[11:21] <premier_> hello
[11:21] <david___> hello
[11:22] <xBill> david_ : does it print any error message ?
[11:22] <orient2000> what do you mean by nothing?
[11:22] <david___> well when i try to run beryl manager it didnt work
[11:23] <david___> i looked in the bin folder and it isnt even there
[11:23] <premier_> Im trying to install japanese language support, and the keyboard layout page in system settings is blank
[11:23] <premier_> it has zero keyboard layouts
[11:24] <dromer> hi all, I am trying to dua a dual-screen or twin-view with my geforce2-mx, my regular xorg.conf is this: http://sneeuw.zapto.org/~dreamer/xorg.conf  and this I added to the section "device" http://sneeuw.zapto.org/~dreamer/xorg.conf.dual  but then x won't start  can anyone help me set this up?
[11:25] <orient2000> run beryn thru ALT F2 maybe
[11:25] <david___> i tried that
[11:25] <david___> i dont think it installed... as adept isnt showing its installed
[11:25] <orient2000> did you install japanese fonts thru adept? did you restart your system?
[11:25] <david___> and adept will break it when i try to install it.
[11:26] <orient2000> sudo apt-get install -f maybe
[11:28] <orient2000> If you run 6.06 lots of applications is off the line "BREAK" in adept
[11:29] <david___> seriously...
[11:29] <david___> i have 6.06 kubuntu
[11:30] <david___> the wiki is for efty...is that why i am getting troubled?
[11:31] <orient2000> most of 6.10 will not work for 6.06
[11:32] <david___> so when do you think shipit will start giving out free 6.10's?
[11:32] <david___> but wait...someone said it could be ran on 6.06
[11:33] <Pupeno2> I have modprobed partport_pc, yet /dev/partport0 doesn't appera, any ideas?
[11:34] <orient2000> I think you will have to download. There will be new version in Aug I think. You can try this one now. http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/
[11:34] <david___> but i like kubuntu better...
[11:34] <orient2000> It is not official distribution but has all drivers working.
[11:35] <vmware> is quake good
[11:35] <david___> quake is good
[11:35] <orient2000> It is kubuntu
[11:35] <david___> it is different i like kde better...
[11:36] <vmware> must agree...however, it installs way too many progs
[11:36] <david___> could i just replace gdm with kde?
[11:36] <Kite_DH> can i ask something?
[11:36] <darkdead> !spanish
[11:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:36] <vmware> be our guest
[11:37] <Kite_DH> well
[11:37] <Kite_DH> i DLed a game
[11:37] <Kite_DH> tar.gz
[11:37] <Kite_DH> package
[11:37] <Kite_DH> how to install that??
[11:37] <DexterF> hi
[11:37] <david___> compile it
[11:37] <Kite_DH> how is that possible
[11:37] <david___> read the readme and it will tell you how to compile it
[11:38] <david___> usually by running an install.sh file i think
[11:38] <DexterF> mpeg2 file, recorded from dvb, repleced to mpeg2, slackware plays it fine with any player, on 6.06 xine plays no video but sounds, mplayer crashes. pointers?
[11:39] <Kite_DH> david___: with what prog do i have to run install.sh?
[11:39] <vmware> linuxreality.com, best podcast for n00bs, like us, for the mostpart
[11:39] <david___> Konsole if u have kubuntu
[11:39] <david___> or some other console like app
[11:39] <Kite_DH> yes i got kubuntu
[11:39] <david___> press alt f2 then type konsole
[11:40] <Kite_DH> ok its opened
[11:40] <Kite_DH> but there is no install.sh file
[11:40] <david___> now navigate to the contents of the tar,gz file
[11:40] <david___> what files are there?
[11:41] <Kite_DH> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/stepmania/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz
[11:41] <Kite_DH> thats the file
[11:41] <david___> ok
[11:42] <david___> nearly downloaded
[11:42] <Kite_DH> k
[11:42] <darkdead> is there a way for know the administrator name i set the pasword but mised set user was oem install :/
[11:42] <darkdead> ?
[11:43] <darkdead> any help please : )
[11:44] <david___> kite it says install with an exe?
[11:44] <toxick1> hey guys
[11:44] <david___> thats for windows
[11:44] <toxick1> kubuntu is too slow
[11:44] <toxick1> im on 460mhz/512ram , what would be faster ?
[11:44] <Kite_DH> it says for linux
[11:44] <david___> your pc < kubuntu
[11:44] <toxick1> pentium 2
[11:44] <Kite_DH> david___: http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Download_StepMix_2_Songs
[11:44] <Kite_DH> see
[11:44] <Kite_DH> wait
[11:44] <Kite_DH> lol
[11:44] <darkdead> get small distro like lite devian
[11:44] <Kite_DH> david___: http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads
[11:44] <Doomedelite> toxick1: Try xubuntu
[11:45] <Doomedelite> !xubuntu
[11:45] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:45] <toxick1> i already put XFCE on this
[11:45] <toxick1> still same when trying to open applications ike browser even
[11:45] <Doomedelite> still too slow?
[11:45] <eagles0513875> what is a a good video editing program
[11:45] <darkdead> adove premier XD
[11:45] <Doomedelite> Try Puppy Linux, or Damn Small Linux instead then
[11:45] <toxick1> i've tried DMS in past, its really good.
[11:46] <eagles0513875> ya 50mb distro
[11:46] <toxick1> i thought kubuntu would be good but i was wrong.
[11:46] <Doomedelite> for a 450mhz processor, 512 megs of ram is really too much, try upgrading your processor
[11:46] <Kite_DH> i got DSL on my USB stick lol
[11:46] <eagles0513875> llol
[11:46] <david___> same here
[11:46] <david___> but its a tonne a crap
[11:46] <eagles0513875> what is a a good video editing program
[11:46] <david___> it chooses when it will work
[11:46] <toxick1> why
[11:46] <DexterF> Doomedelite: "x meg ram is tto much for cpu y"? that's the dumbest thing I've heard in weeks
[11:46] <toxick1> i need a primay OS on this
[11:46] <toxick1> is DMS good?
[11:46] <bxnp> lol i am working on a celeron 600 with 256 of ram with kubuntu and it works good Doomedelite
[11:46] <Doomedelite> DexterF: His processor is the chokepoint
[11:47] <david___> kite im still trying to get that to work :)
[11:47] <Kite_DH> thx
[11:47] <DexterF> there's no such thing as "too much ram"
[11:47] <toxick1> whats faster/better Puppy linux or dms
[11:47] <Doomedelite> DexterF: Sure there is, if your motherboard doesn't support it
[11:47] <DexterF> i dont talk hairsplitting, wisecracker
[11:48] <darkdead> is there any way for know admin name ?
[11:48] <david___> kite im unregd so i can pvt u
[11:48] <toxick1> whats default WM in Puppy linux/
[11:48] <Bi||aBong> how i can enable usplash in kubuntu?
[11:48] <Doomedelite> DexterF: And what I meant was he can't use it all properly, because of his slow processor speed. You don't really see the full effect of having 512 mb ram
[11:48] <darkdead> do it in xp
[11:48] <Doomedelite> Since, as I stated before, his processor is choking him
[11:48] <toxick1> wow no ones answering but discussing the whole ram aspect
[11:48] <Doomedelite> :P
[11:48] <darkdead> and 512 ram will boot it bad
[11:48] <toxick1> so whats so great
[11:49] <darkdead> er boost
[11:49] <toxick1> xp runs faster on this
[11:49] <bxnp> yes i have the same experience toxick1
[11:49] <darkdead> soo ram always help
[11:49] <DexterF> Doomedelite: I've got a router, Pentium II 350 with 512megs, and surprise, it uses it for ramdisk, caching and whatnow. why? because there's no reason it shouldnt
[11:49] <toxick1> im out
[11:49] <toxick1> later
[11:49] <Doomedelite> cya
[11:49] <toxick1> im gonna install this pos kubuntu
[11:49] <david___> kite that package seems to be windows one
[11:49] <toxick1> uninstall*
[11:49] <darkdead> lol
[11:49] <Kite_DH> hmm
[11:50] <darkdead> try lite devian
[11:50] <toxick1> ill install DMS to disk
[11:50] <darkdead> it made for low cpu sytems
[11:50] <Kite_DH> im gonna see
[11:50] <toxick1> lite debian or devian?
[11:50] <david___> why dont you buy a new pc...
[11:50] <darkdead> devian
[11:50] <Doomedelite> Yea, but even if you get 2gb of ram with a 450mhz processor, you won't be able to run ubuntu fast. Got me?
[11:50] <david___> you can pick up a decent 2.0ghz for cheap
[11:50] <toxick1> i have a laptop that i use mostly, this is just bs pc sitting at home doing nothing
[11:50] <Bi||aBong> how i can restore usplash in kubuntu?
[11:50] <darkdead> dont remeber i instaled it on a pentium 1 cpu
[11:50] <Doomedelite> I meant, Feel me?
[11:51] <darkdead> and works :P
[11:51] <toxick1> laptop is 1.6ghz dc, amd 64, 1gb ram 100hd
[11:51] <toxick1> i use that mostly
[11:51] <david___> well then use that for kubuntu
[11:51] <david___> itd be great
[11:51] <toxick1> lol
 for a 450mhz processor, 512 megs of ram is really too much  <- that what you said or is that what you said?
[11:51] <Doomedelite> agreed
[11:51] <Doomedelite> That's exactly what I said
[11:51] <toxick1> whats the site for light devian
[11:52] <Tm_T> Why ram can be too much? Is it better to have huge swap? ;)
[11:52] <Doomedelite> *sigh*
[11:52] <Doomedelite> Just forget it
[11:52] <toxick1> lol
[11:52] <orient2000> I think you can delete password in konsole passwd -d, that's all I know.
[11:52] <Doomedelite> This is stupid
[11:52] <toxick1> haha
[11:52] <Doomedelite> :s
[11:52] <sinpath> i think thats right
[11:53] <darkdead> seems it donw :(
[11:53] <toxick1> later
[11:53] <darkdead> i instaled it 1 year ago
[11:53] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Trust me, there's tons of reasons to have 2-4 gigs of ram in pentium2 based systems. ;)
[11:53] <Doomedelite> :x
[11:53] <david___> orient2000 can u help with beryl?
[11:53] <david___> or am i doomed
[11:53] <orient2000> no sorry never sean it
[11:53] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Just depend what you do, is it needed or not.
[11:53] <Doomedelite> #beryl
[11:53] <Doomedelite> exactly
[11:54] <julle_> is there anyone who can give me a tip on a small computer that runs linux? in size small i want to carry it in my pocket like an handcomputer
[11:54] <orient2000> !beryl
[11:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <Kite_DH> i got it running david
[11:54] <Kite_DH> :)
[11:54] <Doomedelite> and he wants to run ubuntu, and whether he had 256 or 512 megs of ram, it wouldnt help him run it any faster, since he has such a slow clock speed
[11:54] <Tm_T> julle_: Nokia n800 ?
[11:54] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Disagree, when you hit swap, you'll go really slow.
[11:55] <Tm_T> And when you hit swap hard, oh boy, byebye usability.
[11:55] <Doomedelite> I'm running ubuntu with 256 ram, and a faster processor (2.0ghz) on my laptop, and my desktop with 1.1ghz and 512 megs of ram runs it slower.
[11:55] <Tm_T> Sure it is.
[11:55] <thev> Any Germans/Austrians here? Anyone know what Kto. Nr. means in relation to banking?
[11:55] <Doomedelite> That's my experience with it
[11:55] <Tm_T> That doesn't say ram is useless.
[11:55] <Doomedelite> I know, I never said it was
[11:55] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Well, extra ram does help, that's sure.
[11:56] <DexterF> thev: account number
[11:56] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Ofcourse his cpu is bottleneck, but still ram helps.
[11:56] <Doomedelite> Yea, exactly
[11:56] <Tm_T> But this is offtopic IMO, so I quit.
[11:56] <thev> Thanks DexterF!
[11:56] <Doomedelite> yay me too
[11:56] <julle_> Tm_T: thx
[11:56] <DexterF> thev: np - unless you go phishing now ;)
[11:56] <Doomedelite> so... Any linux gamers out there?
[11:57] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: Define gamer.
[11:57] <thev> DexterF - nothing so sinister... just trying to pay my tuition :p
[11:57] <Doomedelite> Tm_T: Someone who plays games
[11:57] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: We all do that in some way, I'm sure. ;)
[11:57] <Doomedelite> :P
[11:58] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: But yeah, I do play bit more seriously than just random office clicker.
[11:58] <Doomedelite> Tm_T: I'm just glad I'm not the only one :P
[11:58] <Tm_T> But this also is OT. ;)
[11:58] <Doomedelite> Xo
[11:58] <Tm_T> #kubuntu-offtopic for that. ;)
[11:59] <Doomedelite> No one else was saying anything :P
[11:59] <eagles0513875> what is a a good video editing program
[11:59] <Tm_T> Doomedelite: "Kubuntu support channel" but not as mental support or therapy.
[11:59] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: Kino? Don't know if it's good though.
[11:59] <Cyco> does anyone care to have a conversation about ubuntu speed and tweaking?
[11:59] <eagles0513875> rwhat other editors r there
[12:00] <jarhead-x> !flash
[12:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:00] <Doomedelite> Tm_T: We need a #kubuntu-therapy
[12:00] <philip2> how do i add winxp in grub menu list? thanks
[12:00] <Tm_T> !grub
[12:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:00] <philip2> ok i look at it thanks
[12:01] <tabr> hi! I can't start mysql 5.0 Server(Ubuntu 6.10[x64] ). Can you help me?
[12:01] <Cyco> Have you every noteced a slight delay in all your apps, as in not as responsive as opposed to other distros/xp
[12:01] <Tm_T> tabr: Help yourself by telling how you can't.
[12:02] <Tm_T> Cyco: Nope, doesn't happen here even with low-end hardware.
[12:02] <Cyco> hmm interesting
[12:02] <Tm_T> Until hard swapping that is. ;)
[12:02] <Cyco> i have tweaked everything imaginable and still not as responsive as xp is
[12:03] <Cyco> hdparm, data=writeback, noatime, sysv-rc-conf,
[12:03] <david___> !flash
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:03] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:03] <Cyco> any other suggestions
[12:03] <bxnp> Cyco: find your pid for your xserver
[12:03] <bxnp> xorg
[12:03] <bxnp> and renice it to -15
[12:04] <Cyco> k lemme try
[12:04] <bxnp> and see how how responsive it is Cyco
[12:04] <Cyco> matter if beryl/no beryl>?
[12:04] <redcard> Cyco: What's the speed of  your processor/memory/etc?
[12:04] <bxnp> no Cyco
[12:05] <bxnp> btw you have to do that as root Cyco to renice your xorg pid
[12:05] <neandrake> hi
[12:05] <Cyco> P4 1.7Ghz, 640
[12:05] <Cyco> ram,
[12:05] <Cyco> 128 GeForce Ti4200
[12:05] <redcard> That Ram might be your problem right there.
[12:05] <Cyco> ata100
[12:05] <bxnp> how is it comming Cyco
[12:05] <bxnp> with the rencie
[12:05] <bxnp> renice
[12:05] <neandrake> i have a problem installing Kubuntu, i downloaded the cd image, burned it, then booted from it, but it freezes partway through just the loading
[12:06] <Cyco> still doing
[12:06] <Cyco> you know exact syntax - - do i need to add user?
[12:06] <bxnp> ps -ef | grep xorg
[12:06] <redcard> neandrake: Did you check the CD for errors?
[12:06] <tabr> Tm_T. installed by Adept. when type: 'mysql': "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)." File not exists. Daemon stopped
[12:06] <bxnp> and then renice -15 <the number you get>
[12:06] <neandrake> redcard: when i do that, it loads through the progress bar
[12:07] <bxnp> sudo renice -15 <the number you get> Cyco
[12:07] <redcard> neandrake: Does it give you a good response?
[12:07] <Tm_T> tabr: Ok, I have no idea, sorry.
[12:07] <neandrake> then it prints just white text on black about some errors with hdc
[12:07] <neandrake> redcard, no it spits out errors then freezes
[12:07] <bxnp> the first number you see Cyco
[12:07] <jordi_> Buenas noches desde Palma de Mallorca
[12:07] <neandrake> but it seems to happen on reading the hard drive
[12:07] <Cyco> bxnp no dice on xorg process
[12:07] <neandrake> which doesn't make sense
[12:07] <Cyco> x11 maybe?
[12:07] <redcard> Then I'd wager you have errors on the disk.. you probably need to check the md5sum of the iso, and then reburn it
[12:07] <bxnp> ehm Cyco correction
[12:07] <bxnp> do a top
[12:08] <lba> How can I troubleshoot this error when mounting nfs on Edgy:  mount: sal:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[12:08] <bxnp> and see what the pid number is for you xorg
[12:08] <neandrake> redcard: what is the easiest way to check my cd for the errors on windows?
[12:08] <Cyco> got it
[12:08] <dromer> hi all, I just followed these exact guidelines for dual-screen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=geforce2+twinview  except I was wondering hpw I can really extend my desktop? atm I have to run settings and programs on the screens sepperatly, which is not very comfortable since the tv-screen doesn't have the best resolution
[12:08] <neandrake> redcard: rather, check the md5sum
[12:08] <redcard> neandrake: If you're getting errors on the "Check install media" thing, you have errors on the CD burn.
[12:08] <bxnp> oke now sudo renice -15 number
[12:08] <Cyco> done
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> i have a creative soundblaster live and a mic is hooked up to it. but nothing comes out of the speakers.
[12:09] <neandrake> ok
[12:09] <redcard> neandrake: As that does an MD5sum.
[12:09] <bxnp> oke and work with it and see how repsonsive your system is now
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> the channel is unmuted..
[12:09] <neandrake> i'm redownloading already, which way can i check the iso file?
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> neandrake: are you under windows, mac, or linux?
[12:10] <neandrake> hyperactivecrond, i'm under windows right now
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> neandrake: http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> download md5sum.exe
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> and use it for the iso
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> compare it to the <whateveryourdiskis>.iso.md5 on the server where you are downloading from
[12:11] <Cyco> bxnp seems ok, will have to push a load onto it to see for sure, will try tonight.....It is hard to explain just not as "snappy" as I like, I know the machine is junk but not upgrading for another month
[12:12] <bxnp> man my system is way more junk then yours
[12:12] <Cyco> will the renice value hold on reboot or will i need to renice it every instance
[12:12] <redcard> Cyco: I would also suggest not running beryl, to be honest.
[12:13] <bxnp> but to be honest i have always noticed that windows is more responsive then for example kde/linux or gnome/linux dont know why maybe the scheduling of the kernel is not good enough
[12:13] <Cyco> maybe it is just the slow 2d rendering from X which is driving me nuts
[12:13] <Cyco> ya i driopped beryl a few weeks back - - still use it to show off a bit
[12:13] <neandrake> hyperactivecrond, thank you
[12:13] <neandrake> redcard, thank you too