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ddaabeuno: I hope you'll get feedback and have a chance to elaborate on this :)03:11
beunoddaa: well, you could get the ball rolling...   ;)03:12
ddaaI marked the email. I'll wait for a while to see what other people have to say :)03:13
beunoheh, ok ok03:13
beunoyou think I should of elaborated more?  I didn't want to make it look too long03:13
ddaawell, that's not how I would have written it...03:14
ddaathe main message I get out of this mail is "this user is very excited about the forums and positive about launchpad"03:14
ddaawhich I do not think actually the message you meant to convey :)03:15
beunohmmm, interesting point of view03:15
beunoI probablu over-sold the forums, but I guess it's because I feel developers are so agresive against them03:16
ddaayou are actually proposing some concrete features, linking forums threads and ubuntu objects (bug? answers? I do not remember)03:17
ddaabut it takes some effort to actually find them in this message03:17
beunoyes, specific examples03:17
beunoyou would be viewing a thread in the forum, and could see right on there what bugs relate to it, and if they're open ore closed03:17
ddaaon the other hands, there was a couple of good points03:18
beunoso you would know if you land on a thread 3 months later that it's solved without going through 16 pages03:18
ddaasuch as "don't put forums in launchpad, but link to them" and "you do not have to read the forums, let users do the linking"03:18
beunoand by having that information already, you would be able to view in launchpad itself what threads relate to that bug, so it would be a win-win situation03:18
beunoyeah, I tried to stress the fact that it's users who would do the work, and not devs03:19
ddaaactually, I think there was actually two messages there "forums are important", the google fact is very significant.03:19
ddaaand "they should be linked with launchpad"03:19
beunothe phrase "Integrate launchpad into the forums, not the other way around" was carefully crafted 03:20
ddaait did not actually made a lot of sense to me...03:20
ddaatoo clever maybe03:20
beunowell, you started off the conversation yesterday with a hitler analogy, so I'll let that one slide, hehehe03:21
ddaaActually, now that I'm talking to you, I see what you meant.03:21
ddaadid I say something about hitler? :)03:21
ddaaI just mentioned something about democratic elections... I do not actually remember the name of that guy :)03:21
beunoI looked it up  ;)03:22
beunoread through decades of german history03:22
beunoanyway, I hope it's enough to atract some attention03:22
ddaaI'm sometimes disappointed by how little launchpad devs give attention to user messages, but I'll reactive the thread if it goes unnoticed03:24
ddaaus attention-deficit developers sometimes need multiple stimuli03:24
beunogreat to know, maybe that's all it takes, a small "maybe he's not entirely crazy"03:25
ddaaright, exactly03:25
beunoI do understand on the other hand there must be hundreds of whacky ideas from very... frenetic users03:25
beunoand that does tend to make you ignore them03:25
ddaano that much actually03:25
beunono?  I figured launchpad would atract a lot of attention03:27
ddaaI guess we're just good at redirecting disorientated users in the general direction of the ubuntu folks :)03:27
beunohahah, well, congrats on that!03:28
ddaaI think there's actually very few people who actually "get" launchpad outside of the core.03:28
beunowell, I think unless you actually do dev work, and have used other bug trackers like bugzilla, it's pretty hard to grasp the concept03:29
ddaacannot blame them, it takes a week or two of solid face time for new employees to get it, too03:29
beunoalthough you guys have gone a long way extending it to specification building, translatios, support...03:30
ddaaactually... bug-branches-packages-translations was planned from the start03:30
ddaaspecs and support are late additions03:31
beunoI particularly love the specs part03:32
ddaaI guess bug tracking is the most mature because it's the bit that has the least complex interactions with wild data out there03:32
ddaafunny you mention that03:33
ddaaI had the impression that ubuntu community folks are big on the spec tracker03:33
ddaabut mainly because of how it's used in the ubuntu development process03:33
beunowell, it makes all the information so much more visible03:34
ddaaI'm just wondering how much is really about the tool03:35
beunohave any other big project caught on on using launchpad yet?03:35
ddaaand how much is actually about the ubuntu process03:35
ddaadefine, "other", "big" and "caught" :)03:35
beunowell, for me it's pretty hard to seperate launchpad from Ubuntu03:35
beunohahah03:35
beunoother = non-ubuntu   big = over 1000 user base   caught on = using it03:36
ddaawell... not counting launchpad03:37
ddaathere's bzr...03:37
ddaabut it's from the same company03:37
ddaadrupal03:37
ddaathere's actually a bunch of products using the bug tracker03:37
ddaaand real bunch using the translations...03:37
beunodrupal is on launchpad?03:37
FujitsuThere's SchoolTool (but that's also Canonical).03:38
FujitsuIsn't Zope looking at it?03:38
ddaanot Canonical03:38
FujitsuGah.03:38
FujitsuShuttleworth Foundation, similar thing.03:38
ddaaI think Schooltool is funded by the Shuttleworth Foundation03:38
FujitsuYep, that's right.03:38
beunoyes, I was going for non-canonical products, which I expect have to use it by default03:38
ddaaCanonical is for-profit, no the Shuttleworth Foundation. It's a pretty big difference :)03:39
FujitsuBut they're rather related.03:39
ddaamh... drupal is not on malone...03:39
ddaano translations...03:40
FujitsuGnomeBaker uses Rosetta, doesn't it?03:40
ddaaokay I'm confused03:40
ddaaI think GnomeBaker is dead03:40
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beunook ok, I see, it's a bit spread out for now03:41
ddaathere's planet03:45
ddaahttps://beta.launchpad.net/planet/+bugs03:45
ddaabut not really a good candidate, since it's mostly from jdub...03:45
beunohaha, well, at least launchpad users like it enough to put there projects on it, that's a good start03:46
ddaawell, jdub was the original ubuntu community guy :)03:46
beunoah, I did not know that03:47
ddaacannot actually find a large project that I'm familiar with and is not closely tied with sabdfl in some way from the list of products that are marked as "official-malone"...03:48
ddaathere's some interest in the zope community yes03:48
beunoI remember participating in a python discussion when they where looking for a new bug tracker03:48
ddaaand maybe a few other large projects that I shall not disclose :)03:48
beunobut the "it's not open source" thing just kept on coming up03:49
ddaaI think it's a red herring really03:49
ddaaif they mean "we cannot run it ourselves", I'd prefer if they'd say it.03:49
ddaasince the code is not distributed, it does not make much sense to say whether it's free or not03:50
ddaacall me a nitpicker if you wish03:50
beunoyes, well, it's probably more or less that03:51
beunothey can't run it, they can't decide what features get implemented03:51
beunoI personally like launchpad more then anything else out there, but it's hard to argue with that03:51
FujitsuI think the issues are that the data is locked away, and there's no hope of implementing extra features.03:51
ddaathe latter actually comes from the former03:52
FujitsuNot necessarily.03:53
ddaaFujitsu: can you expand on this?03:53
FujitsuYou can have a model where there is a single instance of LP, with the data locked away, but with members of the community able to implement features.03:53
FujitsuRather than having the (somewhat smaller) LP developer group working on everything.03:54
ddaapoint of order: we do not want to lock the data away, and if they ask, we'll be glad to give people a dump of there's data03:54
FujitsuSo the latter isn't caused by the former...03:54
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ddaas/there's/their/03:55
FujitsuOK...03:55
ddaaI heard there's actually a bug export script that can be run on request.03:55
FujitsuInteresting!03:56
ddaaand we actually have been meaning to expose the data more through feeds and apis, for a long while03:56
ddaabut it's never the most pressing feature to implement at any given time03:56
FujitsuWhenever anybody brings that up, the response is `post-1.0'.03:56
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Fujitsuddaa: But it would make our lives much nicer.03:57
ddaaThing is, one of the new hires should start working on this soon.03:57
ddaaso, back on track...03:57
FujitsuIt's been coming soon for a couple of years now :)03:57
ddaaalso, we can give access to the code under NDA03:58
ddaaat least one community member did it already, I do not think he actually contributed much03:58
ddaabut it's not advertised03:58
ddaaso please do not quote me on this03:58
FujitsuI think it is mentioned on the FAQ.03:58
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Hobbseeinteresting.03:59
ddaaI'm not convinced that releasing the code under a "you can see, you can touch, but you cannot use it" license would improve the situation...03:59
FujitsuProbably not.04:00
ddaaand it's a system with a huge learning curve, and a very strict QA process...04:00
FujitsuI can see why it should be kept in once instance, for sure.04:00
beunoddaa: I agree, they would have to be able to use it, otherwise it's better to have good exporting tools04:00
FujitsuI'd been thinking about how a multi-instance LP would work (sort of a web of trust), but it'd get really messy.04:01
ddaaFujitsu: we've thought about it too04:01
FujitsuIt'd get messy, and there's a large potential for damage.04:01
ddaalike 1.5 year ago...04:01
ddaathere was discussion of federated launchpad... and we saw it was going to be a lot of trouble, and we already had our plates way overfull...04:02
Fujitsubzr and LP are an interesting contrast. bzr is all about decentralising, LP is the other way around.04:02
ddaayou can see it this way, yes04:03
ddaaanother way to see it04:03
ddaais bzr is all about enabling individuals to act04:03
ddaaand communicate more easily in code04:03
Fujitsuddaa: And LP does that with products...04:03
FujitsuI guess that's also a good view.04:03
ddaaand launchpad is all about enabling communities to communicate more easily in all sorts of ways04:04
ddaaand communities are defined by some centralize resources04:04
ddaabug trackers, repositories, collections of documents04:04
ddaamailing lists (soon!)04:05
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FujitsuLP-integrated mailing lists sounds good.04:05
beunoI like the sound of that!04:05
ddaaactually the centralized/decentralized tension is built in processes surrounding DVCS04:06
beunoddaa: any specifics on launchpad and emails lists integration?04:06
ddaawhy do you think the guy who wrote Mailman is now a lp dev? :)04:06
LaserJockhehe, I didn't know that04:06
ddaano specifics, just because I do not know :)04:06
ddaafact is, teams are de-facto, ill-defined, crappy mailing lists04:07
ddaaso I'd expect barry is going to work on fixing that04:07
LaserJockyeah04:08
beunoyou have been very informative today ddaa  :D04:08
ddaahope I did make any career-limiting move :)04:09
LaserJocklol04:09
FujitsuHeh.04:10
beunoof not, I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities   :p04:11
beuno*id04:11
beunouhm, "if"04:12
ddaahehehe04:12
ddaaI still have more spam than job offers04:12
ddaaactually, I did not have any job offer, except from one guy I chatted with in Amsterdam04:12
ddaawho wanted me to fix the networking of the sound system in a concert haal04:13
FujitsuWhat an odd job offer.04:14
ddaaodd guy...04:14
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ddaathat would be a good problem to have, I guess :)04:24
beunolol04:25
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mr-russis it a known issue that ubuntu launchpad always seems slow?07:15
tonyyarussoAre there any updates on a potential timeline estimate for the open-sourcing of LP?07:23
Fujitsutonyyarusso: As always, indefinite.07:24
tonyyarussoFujitsu: Dang.07:24
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Fujitsutonyyarusso: We were having this discussion just a couple of hours ago.07:25
tonyyarussoFujitsu: Any significant points raised I should be aware of?  (or logs/minutes)07:25
FujitsuMinutes of an unofficial discussion? Interesting :P07:25
tonyyarussoYou didn't say unofficial before07:26
tonyyarusso:P07:26
LaserJocktonyyarusso: I wouldn't count on it being opensourced for some time07:32
FujitsuWhere some time is at least another few years.07:32
tonyyarussoWhat's the policy about it?  "When it's ready" is all I've heard, which is a tad, um, vague.07:32
LaserJockI was thinking at least 2 or so07:32
LaserJocktonyyarusso: when Mark says so?07:33
Fujitsu2 is a little on the small side, I'd say. But that's just me.07:33
tonyyarussoLaserJock: heh07:33
LaserJockI was trying to be optimistic07:33
LaserJock;-)07:33
LaserJockI personally don't care either way07:35
LaserJockit'd be fun to see the code perhaps, but I wouldn't understand any of it07:36
tonyyarussoI don't actually need to see it - I just want it to be open.  Just seems awkward and hypocritical otherwise.07:38
LaserJockwell, it is a mute point since it isn't distributed07:40
FujitsuThey could very easily say right now that it's under the GPL.07:42
FujitsuThat would be perfectly valid.07:42
LaserJockmhm07:42
LaserJockbut it isn't very significant, to me, if they don't distribute it07:45
LaserJockit might make me feel better07:46
LaserJockbut whatever07:46
tonyyarussoPretty much07:46
tonyyarussowell, off for the night07:48
FujitsuNight, tonyyarusso.07:48
mptmr-russ, Launchpad developers have been working hard over the weekend on ways to make it faster09:03
mptthough some of those improvements probably won't appear for a week or so.09:03
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mdkeLaser_away, Fujitsu: for people asking about launchpad and open source, there is a good discussion of why it hasn't happened here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/OpenWeek_UsingLaunchpad11:27
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freacky22527hi! :)11:27
FujitsuThanks mdke. I haven't seen that one, I don't think.11:28
mdkeFujitsu: there is also a bug open about including it in the LP faq, although I can't see much sign of it being fixed11:29
freacky22527i have a problem to decrypt a message encrypted with my key, to add an OpenPGP keys in launchpad11:29
freacky22527i have this error : gpg: Erreur de CRC; 9A8D28 - DC39A811:29
mdkeFujitsu: found it, bug 5548611:30
UbugtuMalone bug 55486 in launchpad "FAQ should address why LP is not yet free software" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/55486 - Assigned to Matthew Revell (matthew.revell)11:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #91342 in launchpad "Actions menu and portlets missing on many pages in Safari" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9134211:31
freacky22527i have saved this : http://pastebin.ca/390299 to msg.gpg , and the gpg -d msg.gpg return that : gpg: Erreur de CRC; 9A8D28 - DC39A811:31
freacky22527can somebody help me ? :/11:31
mdkefreacky22527: I don't know what that is caused by, but are you following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto to upload your key to launchpad?11:32
freacky22527mdke: no, i wasn't11:34
mdkefreacky22527: give it a try maybe11:34
freacky22527mdke: okay :)11:34
Hobbseemdke: interesting.11:35
Hobbseemdke: still seems rather like "we're not releasing it because we dont think it's worth you trying" - but i can see the logic behind that.11:36
mdkeHobbsee: yes, the first one is the only valid reason, IMO11:36
Fujitsumdke: That's my opinion too.11:37
mdkebut it's very valid :)11:37
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FujitsuAnd I've thought long and hard about how to resolve it (by having a web of trust of LP instances connected, for example)... But it's messy and prone to damage.11:37
Hobbseeyes.  the other two reasons seem very much a case of "we're not releasing it because we dont think it's worth your resources in using"11:38
Hobbseeindeed11:38
mdkeFujitsu: the point is that whatever the solution is, it needs to be in place and working before LP is open sourced. I have no doubt that they will work on a system for other launchpads to interact with a central launchpad11:38
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FujitsuHobbsee: a million and one.11:39
mdkequite a lot11:39
shawarmaeleventy billion!11:40
tsmithelp bug nubmers are not product-specific, right? bug 101000 could refer to product A, whilst 101001 can be product B. so if LP is around for a long time, what happens when bug numbers get long?11:43
mdketsmithe: I don't think it has been necessary to address that question yet11:44
Fujitsutsmithe: Bug numbers get long when they get long.11:44
mdkebut bugzilla doesn't address it, I don't think. They just get long11:44
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tsmithehmm ok11:45
freacky22527mdke: okay everything work! thank you so much dude ^^11:47
mdkegood11:47
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spivtsmithe: bug number length only grows logarithmically with the number of bugs, so I don't think it's a big concern.01:14
spivUnless we switch to counting bugs in base 1 ;)01:15
tsmithehaha01:15
tsmitheok01:16
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YannigHello everybody02:35
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flonkhi, i am looking for a launchpad admin (as described on the feedback page) to aid me in solving problems with my account02:41
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flonkhm, too bad :(02:50
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loswillioshi there06:33
loswilliosis it somehow possible to announce the commits for a project in an irc channel?06:36
beunoloswillios: you mean instead of through email?06:37
loswilliosor webpage (ie https://launchpad.net/~anders-gnulinux/+branch/mms/1.0.9)06:37
beunowell, not that I'm aware of (I'm not a lauchpad dev, so don't take my advice too seriously)06:38
loswillioswould be nice if a bot drops a line with the current revision and the appropiating message06:38
beunobut you can probably get it on a web page by parsing the emails06:39
beunoand probably to the bot too06:39
beunoI don't think bzr has a feature like that planned in the near future06:39
loswillioshm ok06:39
beunoyou'll probably get better answers at #bzr06:41
loswilliosI'll try to subscribe to the project and see if it's possible to get an email on every commit06:42
loswilliosmaybe i could parse that mail and print it to irc06:42
beunoloswillios: I do know for sure bzr can send out emails on commit's06:43
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loswilliosthx beuno I'll try asking in #bzr06:48
beunoloswillios: LarstiQ is very helpful over there06:49
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loswilliosbeuno: they pointed me to https://launchpad.net/publish-bot06:59
beunoloswillios: thats great!  :D06:59
loswilliosbeuno: so it has to be installed on the launchpad-server? sorry I'm new to this07:01
beunoloswillios: I think that's meant for local bzr branches, not launchpad07:02
loswilliosI see07:02
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nixternalhas LP opened for translations yet?09:07
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Yannignixternal: I don't think so09:15
YannigBut an admin may be able to confirm09:15
nixternalOK, thanks. I haven't seen an email come across yet09:20
nixternaljust wondering, as I needed to make a quick change to some docs and regen the .pot's09:20
YannigI'm also wondering; carlos told me it should be finished between Saturday and Sundy09:23
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francesco-outhi, how can i delete my account at launchpad ?09:49
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francesco-outpochu,  do you know hoa can i delete my launchpad account ?09:53
pochufrancesco-out: why would you do that?09:54
francesco-outbecause i don't use it09:54
francesco-outand it is a service i don't use09:55
francesco-outops09:55
pochufrancesco-out: I don't know, but probably a LP admin can help you09:55
francesco-outand i want to have control to all service09:56
pochufrancesco-out: though it would be better if you open a support ticket (in case you can delete it from your control panel)09:56
francesco-outok09:58
LarstiQfrancesco-out: do note that others can still make usefull use of your account existing09:58
francesco-outbut i had not use it10:03
francesco-outi open it because i thought i would use it but i never used it10:03
francesco-out:(10:04
LarstiQok, as pochu said a support ticket is probably the way to go10:04
francesco-outyes, thanks very much10:05
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mptLarstiQ, for future reference, that's https://launchpad.net/bugs/gbcw10:06
mpt(and pochu)10:07
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pochumpt: ty10:10
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francesco-outwhere i can open a ticket ?10:12
francesco-outi don't find 10:15
pochuhttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addticket10:15
pochufrancesco-out: ^10:15
francesco-outthank you 10:15
pochunp :)10:15
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mptGoooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!10:30
mptLarstiQ, what's amazing?10:30
pochumpt: in what timezone is mrevell?10:31
LarstiQpochu: UTC10:31
LarstiQunless he's travelling10:31
pochuLarstiQ: ok, ty10:32
LarstiQmpt: the gbcw part10:33
mptLarstiQ, you mean its presence in a URL, or its use as an abbreviation?10:33
mptpochu, UTC +/- 1, I think10:34
LarstiQmpt: the latter, I'm not familiar with 'gbcw' at all10:34
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mptLarstiQ, it's short for "Goodbye, Cruel World"10:34
LarstiQmpt: ooh :)10:34
mpthttp://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Gbcw10:35
LarstiQmpt: wow10:37
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SteveAmpt: hello11:10
UbugtuNew bug: #91493 in launchpad "Subscribe by e-mail/feed to registry search results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9149311:15
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LarstiQSteveA: mrevell said you still had photos from the sprint on your camera?11:16
SteveALarstiQ: ah!  good point...11:16
SteveALarstiQ: I have some of people at pycon wearing bzr t-shirts too11:18
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Stoffehello room. I need some help... launchpad is giving me serious headaches11:18
StoffeI don't understand all this release and product release and how it all works11:19
LarstiQSteveA: ooh, I didn't realize bzr t-shirts actually existed yet11:19
LarstiQStoffe: what are you trying to do with launchpad?11:19
StoffeAll I would like is for a tarball to be stored, or that the bzr repos could be browsed normally11:20
StoffeI've registered a product, and imported the bzr repos - no problem. Then it kinda says you can do a release, or a release series, or a ... well, lots of different stuff, that should be able to include a tarball11:20
Stoffeso, so far I've got an empty 0.1 release and I've registered a release series with an URL with a wildcard, and I don't know where to find it :D11:21
Stofferight now, I'm just extremely confused, because I feel launchpad is just pulling me around in circles ;-)11:22
SteveALarstiQ: what is your email address?11:22
Stoffethe product is: https://launchpad.net/gedit-autotab11:22
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LarstiQStoffe: browsing branches ala viewcvs is a wishlist item indeed11:23
LarstiQStoffe: don't really know about file uploads11:24
radixStoffe: yeah, neither of those features exist yet but they are on the list I think11:24
Stoffeok, too bad11:25
Stoffeheh11:25
Stoffeso why does launchpad promise them when you add stuff? :)11:25
LarstiQdoes it?11:25
radixwhat does it promise, exactly?11:25
StoffeI see a bug open about it with a 2000-number11:25
SteveALarstiQ: mailed you the location of the photos.  Pass them on to Jelmer and whoever else was at the sprint at may be interested11:25
LarstiQSteveA: thanks, I will.11:25
SteveAI'll mail ddaa11:26
Stoffehttps://launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/268911:26
Stoffefor instance11:26
UbugtuMalone bug 2689 in launchpad "+addrelease page provides no URL field for the tarball" [Medium,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Diogo Matsubara (matsubara)11:26
Stoffeand yes, it says so, still, when you add a release...11:26
Stoffehowever, it's quite possible that something *has* been uploaded, but I can't seem to navigate my way there to see..11:26
Stoffeso half my question is, is there any structure to this11:27
Stoffe?11:27
radixI have no idea what you're talking about11:27
radixWhat was the promise that was made that you find unfulfilled? maybe there is a documentation bug?11:27
Stoffetwo things:11:28
Stoffe1. when "Register a Release", it says: "Including a URL to the release tarball below       will let Launchpad import the release to its archive."11:29
StoffeI have that screen up now11:29
Stoffeit's what the bug is talking about11:29
radixah, ok, and that's what the bug is about. yeah.11:29
StoffeI need some help with that, possibly :)11:29
radixSo the bug summarizes that issue pretty well.11:29
Stoffeand 2. I've also tried registering a Release Series, which allows to enter a URL in a specific field for this. Now I can't find where this added series is at all, and need help with that.11:30
StoffeMaybe, can't relly read if it's supposed to work or not from the bug ;-)11:30
LarstiQThe only gedit-autotab series I see is 'trunk'11:30
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StoffeYeah, that's the one. Possibly I didn't add a new one, it may be the default. Not sure. Anyways, it has a wildcard URL that I was hoping would import the package from a temporary location - does it do that, and where can I find the result? Does anybody know?11:32
LarstiQWell, if gedit-autotab trunk lives in svn/cvs, you can have that imported. Other than that I'm not aware of series doing any importing.11:33
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LarstiQand add releases when they happen11:34
Stoffeno, I'm using bzr, and have imported that11:35
Stoffethat's not the issue11:35
Stoffebecause I could upload a tarball to the bzr repos, butr it wouldn't be downloadable11:35
Stoffeactually, if it was just possible to download without bzr from the regular epos, that would be plenty11:35
Stoffebut I wanted to investigate these other options if they worked...11:36
Stoffe"A URL pattern that matches releases that are part of this series. Launchpad automatically scans this site to import new releases. Example: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.*.tar.gz"11:36
Stoffeis what it says for doing series importing11:36
LarstiQI see.11:36
LarstiQStoffe: I'd ping that bug you mentioned I guess.11:37
Stoffenot really what I want, ideally, but I feel that pointing out the bzr repos isn't that fair either, as I don't think ppl should need to install bzr just to get a small file...11:37
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LarstiQStoffe: ideally, no11:38
LarstiQStoffe: the bzr tarballs are just hosted somewhere else11:38
Stoffeok11:39
Stoffethat quite severly limits the usefulness for end-user projects, for now. it's not very ideal to need a sourceforge project in parallell just for a download... :)11:41
LarstiQsf? eek :)11:42
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Stoffeit's not that I couldn't have my own machines hosting a tarball, but it's quite a mess having stuff in multiple places. sf got that one right, at least, if nothing else.11:45
LarstiQI don't really agree with that, but hosting releases lies in the direction of what launchpad could do11:47
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Stoffewell, allowing me to go in via ssh to the repos and do "bzr up" would solve it all ;-)11:52
Stoffecan I do that, it'd be enough for me11:52
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Stoffebut for projects that aren't Ubuntu, I do think that providing a simple download ability would a huge boon11:53
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radixI probably agree.11:54
radixI'm pretty sure I've heard rumblings about that feature amongst the devs, but I have no idea whether it's going to be done any time soon.11:54
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lifelessStoffe: tarball upload/download facility is being worked on12:01
Stoffegood to hear12:08
mpthi SteveA 12:13

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