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sebrockno way to vcenter everything just changing some parameter in metacity settings?12:03
jribwell you can try restarting X since I said that worked for me, but I'm skeptical that it will make a difference12:03
sebrockI've rebooted already :d12:03
jribah12:03
jribwhat if you change (center) to something else?  Does it still seg fault?12:04
sebrockok what?12:04
sebrockhavnt read up on all the commands yet12:04
jrib(pin)12:05
sebrockthat will make it stick on all workspaces right?12:06
jribyeah12:06
sebrockit works12:06
sebrockso it's just down to "center" now????12:07
jribare we matching class for gnome-panel?12:07
sebrock?12:07
sebrock(if (not matches (window_class) "Gnome-panel") (pin))12:08
jribI guess we are12:08
jribhow about:12:09
jrib(if (and (not matches (window_class) "Gnome-panel") (not matches (window_class) "Gdesklets-daemon")) (center))12:10
sebrockdamn still segs12:10
jribhttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34354612:11
sebrockhmm interesting12:11
sebrockok do you think an update to latest will do the works?12:12
sebrockAs of now Im running the ubuntu package12:12
jrib!info devilspie12:12
ubotudevilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17.1-1 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 124 kB12:12
jriblet me try here12:12
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sebrocktheres a patch12:13
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F00ty12:13
F00i can see what you type here12:13
F00ok12:13
F00so12:13
F00what do i need to do12:13
FlannelF00: openSSH is in the repositories, do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"12:13
Flannelactually, first do "sudo apt-get update'12:14
Flanneler, without the quotes, even if they were matching12:14
F00yeah i know12:14
Flanneldoes the update give any errors?12:15
jribsebrock: I segfault using the center rule on 20.212:15
sebrockjrib, it did?12:15
jribsebrock: should be easy enough for you to apply the patch to latest release though12:15
sebrockmmmm12:15
jribsebrock: yeah well the bug is still unconfirmed so the author must not have applied the patch himself12:15
F00update complete Flannel12:15
FlannelF00: alright, now instal openssh-server12:16
sebrockso the patch, they are talking about 2 patches12:16
jriberm12:16
jribmy windows are centering12:16
F00Flannel, will this fix my compile problem?12:16
FlannelF00: no, this will install openSSH12:16
F00or now i updated do i build essential12:16
F00ok12:17
F00i did build-essential12:17
sebrockjrib, which one to use?12:17
FlannelF00: Why do you need build-essential?  for some other reason? or to compile ssh-server?  (Since there's absolutely no reason for the latter)12:17
F00i build ircds and gameservers etc12:18
FlannelF00: You should always search the repositories first, since there's quite a bit of software in them (you'll want to enable universe)12:18
jribsebrock: the comment seems to suggest both12:18
F00whats universe12:18
sebrockthere are acutlly 3 patches here12:18
sebrock2 in the other thread12:18
Flannel!universe12:19
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource12:19
jribsebrock: you'll have to do trial and error, I'm not sure12:19
sebrockI guess12:19
sebrockor wait for the bug to get confirmed12:19
sebrockWell, jrib  thank you so much for helping me on this12:20
sebrockIm gonna hit the bed now :D12:20
jribsebrock: np12:20
sebrockjrib, gnite!12:20
jribsebrock: night12:20
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naliothjrib: go to sleep12:31
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jribjrib.sleep()12:41
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adrian_i think it's this, which is the error:  adrian@Adrian:~/linuxdcpp$ sudo scons01:02
adrian_scons: Reading SConscript files ...01:02
adrian_Checking for g++ >= 3.4...(cached) yes01:02
adrian_Checking for pkg-config... yes01:02
adrian_Checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6... no01:02
adrian_        gtk+ >= 2.6 not found.01:02
adrian_        Note: You might have the lib but not the headers01:02
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adrian_hi again01:04
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jribadrian_: hi01:04
adrian_did you understand anything of it?01:04
jrib!paste | adrian_01:04
ubotuadrian_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:04
adrian_ok01:04
jrib!info libgtk2.0-dev01:05
ubotulibgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.6-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 2511 kB, installed size 9096 kB01:05
adrian_jrib: my mistake01:05
jribadrian_: did you install that package?01:05
adrian_ben doing this for the last 3 h so you have to excuse my sloppiness01:05
adrian_jrib: which package?01:05
jrib libgtk2.0-dev01:06
adrian_i think so01:06
adrian_i do I know?01:06
jribit's the first package listed in the post01:06
jribwhat's the output of that long apt-get install command?01:06
adrian_jrib: yeah, i think i installed it just these which didn't pass through which aren't doen yet01:07
jriblet me know when it finishes01:07
adrian_I'll check01:07
adrian_typing in sudo "apt-get install" right?01:08
jribsudo apt-get install "the long list of stuff"01:08
adrian_jrib: which county are you from?01:09
jribus01:09
jribUS even01:09
adrian_ok01:09
adrian_ok, 0 upgraded, + newinstallation, 0 to remove and 0 none upgraded i translated it from swedish so01:11
adrian_0 new installations01:11
jribok, apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev01:11
adrian_paste it here or in some other?01:12
jribhere is ok01:12
adrian_is it just us here then?01:12
adrian_quite much info01:13
jribwell what does it say on the line that says "Installed"?01:13
adrian_none01:13
Stormx2jrib, maybe posting the entire output would be helpful?01:13
jribadrian_: can you paste the command you entered before?  The 'sudo apt-get install ...' thing01:14
adrian_jrib: ok01:14
jribStormx2: yeah01:14
adrian_1 mom01:15
adrian_it's mostly in swedish though01:15
adrian_and not alot to it01:16
jribplace LANGUAGE=en_US  at the beginning of the command then01:16
adrian_jrib: anyway here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9736/01:16
jribadrian_: k, you have the forum post open now?01:17
adrian_jrib: no01:17
jribadrian_: open it01:17
adrian_jrib: which is it?01:17
jribhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2837801:17
adrian_ok01:18
jribyou see the line that says "To make sure this is all installed apt-get the following. The packages you have installed already will be ignored, or upgraded (I think)" after the list of packages?01:18
adrian_now what do I do?01:18
adrian_yeah01:18
jribit says Code:01:18
jribcopy the code, that is the command you need to install the packages01:18
adrian_ok, run it through the terminal01:19
adrian_did rutn it01:20
jribok, were there any errors?01:20
adrian_i don't know I'll let you watch it01:20
adrian_how did I make it turn in to english?01:22
adrian_into01:22
jribplace LANGUAGE=en_US  at the beginning of the command then01:22
adrian_jrib: like this? LANGUAGE=en_US adrian@Adrian:~.....01:23
jribwell no, you can't do that can you :)  like this:  LANGUAGE=en_US sudo apt-get install ...01:23
adrian_ok01:23
adrian_sorry, i really need to understand thgis terminal thng better01:24
jrib!cli01:24
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:24
adrian_thanks i'll study them some other day01:26
adrian_ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9741/01:27
jribadrian_: you forgot the packages01:28
adrian_jrib huh?01:28
jribsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgtkmm-2.4-dev libglademm-2.4-dev zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev g++-3.4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common g++ libgtkmm-2.4-1 libglademm-2.4-1 scons01:28
jribisn't that what you see in the forum post?01:28
adrian_jrib: you want to see them too?01:28
jribthat is the command you need to use, your pastes are just showing 'sudo apt-get install'01:29
adrian_yeah they do01:29
jrib?01:29
adrian_all I know is that I need to get all dependencies and that I haven't got them all01:30
jribyou need to enter this command:01:30
adrian_missing g++ or something like that01:30
jribsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgtkmm-2.4-dev libglademm-2.4-dev zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev g++-3.4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common g++ libgtkmm-2.4-1 libglademm-2.4-1 scons01:30
jriband this one too:01:30
jribsudo apt-get install build-essential01:31
adrian_you want result from " sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgtkmm-2.4-dev libglademm-2.4-dev zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev g++-3.4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common g++ libgtkmm-2.4-1 libglademm-2.4-1 scons" then?01:32
jribyes01:32
adrian_ok, now I follow01:32
adrian_1 sec01:32
jribadrian_: why don't you just use dcgui?01:33
jrib!dcgui01:33
ubotudcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB01:33
jribit will be a lot easier01:33
adrian_huh?01:34
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adrian_never heard of it, all I know is that i want a dc++ applaication for linux that's all01:35
jribadrian_: why are you installing dc++?  There is a program called dcgui that you can use for Direct COnnect01:35
jribadrian_: sudo apt-get install dcgui, forget about dc++01:35
adrian_jrib: cuz I'm afraid that my hub server wont support that version of Dc++01:36
jribadrian_: it won't hurt to try01:36
adrian_jrib: you're right01:36
adrian_i'll just give you this paste then I'll try that01:36
adrian_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9742/01:37
jribok, I just noticed that that post is pretty old.  Give dcgui a try now01:38
adrian_ok, typed in  sudo apt-get install dcgui and it's done. Now what?01:39
jribadrian_: now type 'dcgui' in your terminal and press enter01:39
adrian_hm..01:40
adrian_omg it worked. First thing this evening01:40
jrib!synaptic | adrian_01:41
ubotuadrian_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:41
jribthat's a gui for apt-get that is probably easier to use.  You could have installed dcgui that way too01:41
adrian_what's ed2k Url?01:41
jribidk01:41
adrian_it says ed2k URK handler01:42
jribI believe you, but I don't know what that is01:42
adrian_i got the synaptic packethandler01:43
adrian_managewr01:43
jribok01:43
adrian_ok01:43
adrian_idk = i don't know :D didn't know that one01:44
adrian_this webpage you gave me is just for the Synaptic mangaer right? How is it connected to the DCgiu?01:46
jribadrian_: I was just telling you about it.  It is an alternative to using apt-get.  You don't need it for dcgui anymore, it's for your future installations01:47
adrian_so instead of typing in apt-get in the terminal i could may use the synaptic manager, correct?01:48
jribadrian_: right01:48
adrian_jrib: ok, but i think it has become clear to me that i need to learn at least the basics of the terminal01:49
jribadrian_: yes, that is very helpful01:50
adrian_jrib: once you get the commands printed in your head and get the logic I may think so too. Right now it's just confusing :)01:50
adrian_well, i think I'll try using DCGui tomorrow01:53
adrian_jrib: you probably hear this a lot a reacon but I thank you enough for helping me out what must seem to you as easy as things can be :)01:54
adrian_jrib: - "I reacon but I can't thank you enough" it should say01:55
adrian_jrib: I know one thing for sure though, if many people is as helpful as you are and have this much patience then the windows systems is going have a hard time in the near future :)01:58
jribadrian_: np, that's good to hear02:02
adrian_jrib: that's the least I can do, for guys like you :)02:04
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adrian_jrib: i need to go to slepp now. Pretty tired after all this this evening so, thanks for everything02:06
jribnight02:06
adrian_jrib: night02:06
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geniiF00BaR here?02:21
F00BaRyes02:21
geniitry:    gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled true02:21
F00BaRsec02:21
F00BaRbtw02:21
F00BaRwhen i boot up ubuntu02:21
F00BaRwhy cant i login as root02:21
geniiroot is disabled by default on all ubuntu systems. You are supposed to do root things with the sudo command instead02:22
naliothyes, leave root alone02:22
naliothuse sudo02:22
naliothif you need a superuser console, use 'sudo -l'02:23
naliothuse gksudo or kdesu for superuer gui tasks02:23
F00BaRbrb02:26
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F00BaRgenii02:51
F00BaRu here02:51
geniibarely02:52
geniibut yes02:52
F00BaRok02:52
F00BaRhow do i install an ftp server02:52
geniiF00BaR: Install the package proftp02:53
naliothF00BaR: search in synaptic for "ftpd"02:53
F00BaRit gave me an error02:58
geniiTrying to install the package gave you an error?02:58
F00BaRftpd is already the newest version02:59
F00BaRyet there is no ftp on there02:59
F00BaRunless i need to start it02:59
F00BaR??03:04
geniiYou are trying to ftp from some other computer to the computer running ftpd to download some files?03:04
F00BaRno03:05
F00BaRim trying to login to the server03:05
F00BaRfrom another pc03:05
F00BaRim trying to FTP to ubuntu using a windows pc03:06
geniiOK. 1 minute03:06
F00BaRty03:06
geniiI forget if you are using KDE or gnome03:08
geniiAh right, gnome03:09
F00BaRgnome03:09
geniiStill here?03:09
F00BaRyes03:10
geniiOK, good. I found a nice tutorial for you then, gnome based. It uses proftpd however. I would recommend to uninstall other ftp servers if they are installed and use it instead.03:11
geniiThe link to the tutorial   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7958803:11
F00BaRinetd or standalone03:14
F00BaRwtf is that03:14
F00BaRwhat are they03:14
F00BaRanyway03:16
F00BaRi selected initd03:16
geniistandalone is when the server program runs all the time. inetd is another program which runs, then if someone needs to use some server like ftp or something, it calls up that specific server program.03:16
F00BaRok03:17
geniiFor what you are using you should just choose standalone03:17
F00BaRits running03:17
F00BaRbut i cant login03:17
F00BaRhow do i remove it03:17
F00BaRto reinstall03:17
geniijust uninstall it from the package manager (like synaptic or adept) then reinstall it03:18
F00BaRhow do i remove it03:21
F00BaRthere is no option03:21
F00BaRnvm03:21
F00BaRgot it03:21
geniigood03:21
F00BaRit didnt ask me for standalone03:22
F00BaRor inetd03:22
F00BaR:/03:22
geniiok, in console or terminal, put:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gproftpd03:24
geniithis should let you reset the configuration file03:24
F00BaRdidnt do anything03:29
F00BaRroot@WNDR:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure gproftpd03:30
F00BaRroot@WNDR:~#03:30
F00BaRthats what it looks like03:30
geniiWell, first thing is that you are already logged in as root, which is a no-no. But anyhow. So then try sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd03:31
F00BaRyeah03:32
F00BaRcuz i did su root03:32
F00BaRok03:33
F00BaRi chose standalone03:33
F00BaRnow i get another set03:33
geniiOK, what?03:33
F00BaRits a warning i mean03:34
F00BaRProFTPd cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configureation03:34
geniiThis may be because you did not stop the server before trying to reconfigure it. try stopping it from command line with :  /etc/init.d/proftpd stop03:37
geniithen run the reconfigure command exactly as before. Standalone is preferred as the type03:38
F00BaRsame error when trying to stop it03:38
geniiDo you know how to use the pastebin website?03:40
F00BaRyes03:40
F00BaRbut i cant connect to irc03:40
F00BaRon linucx03:40
F00BaRyes i can03:40
F00BaRlemme start upo xchat03:40
F00BaRconnection refused03:41
geniiPlease pastebin the contents of the file /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf   if it exists03:41
F00BaRcan you come to my net #linux please03:42
F00BaRi cannot connect here on linux03:42
F00BaRnvm03:43
F00BaRim in03:43
geniiActually I am extremely exhausted from having been awake all night and may need to leave for sanity soon :)03:43
geniiBut I will try to help for a bit longer03:43
F00BaRi cant connect!03:44
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f00bar__here03:45
f00bar__sec03:45
geniiManaged to connect?03:45
geniiOK03:45
F00BaRwaiting03:45
geniiI did not yet receive a link to the pastebin web url where you pasted the contents of the file /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf03:46
F00BaRi know03:46
F00BaRim waiting for pastebin03:46
geniiAh, alright03:47
f00bar__http://pastebin.com/89709503:47
f00bar__there we go03:47
geniiIt's just I am getting crabby a bit from being tired. nothing personal LOL03:47
f00bar__lol03:47
f00bar__i do appreciate this03:47
f00bar__a lot03:47
f00bar__thank you03:47
geniiIt's Ok. But I think soon I will have to leave without helping you get it setup. But at worst, you could follow the long directions in the link i gave earlier. Still waiting for pastebin, it is *slow* today03:49
f00bar__http://rafb.net/p/ObfobM64.html03:50
f00bar__quick link03:50
f00bar__thats the paste too03:50
geniiI think you need to make a user with the names in the conf file, or else change the names in the conf file to a user that exists on your system.03:51
geniieg: Userproftpd03:51
geniiGroupnogroup03:51
geniiThis in the conf file03:51
geniiDo you know how to add users?03:52
F00BaRadduser name03:52
geniiYes, good03:52
F00BaRbutuser proftpd is already added03:52
F00BaRit added its self03:53
F00BaRthing is i try to connect via ftp and it doesnt connect03:53
geniiOK. So as a fast test, change the line in the conf file from inetd to standalone, then save it again. then try to restart the server by:    sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart03:53
F00BaRyou do not have the permissions03:54
geniiah, ok, have you used the text editor nano before?03:55
F00BaRi use pico + nano03:55
F00BaRdone it now03:55
geniiOK, good, So run nano with sudo to edit the file.03:55
F00BaRi did03:56
F00BaRimma restart03:56
geniiOK, now try the restart03:56
geniieg: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart03:56
F00BaR- IPv6 getaddrinfo 'WNDR' error: Name or service not known03:57
F00BaRWNDR is my server name03:57
geniisee if you can login to the ftp server on the local box   eg: ftp 127.0.0.1   (on the linux box)03:58
geniiIf you are trying to ftp in from the windoze box you will likely need to use the IP address of the linux box by the way, not it's windows networking name03:59
f00bar__tworks03:59
geniiGood, local login works?03:59
f00bar__yes03:59
f00bar__and global03:59
f00bar__now i need to port forward03:59
geniiWell, it is time for me to sleep :)04:00
f00bar__ok04:00
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f00bar__thank you04:00
f00bar__sleep well04:00
geniiOK... good luck with the rest and good day04:00
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adrian_Hi09:09
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jribadrian_: hi, did dcgui not work?09:10
adrian_jrib: i did but i like the look of linuxd++ better09:10
jribcompiling isn't something you should do in the first few days09:11
jribyou should get comfortable using the system first.  If you still want to trudge through it though, I'll try to help...09:11
adrian_what do you mean?09:11
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adrian_jrib: can i send you the output showing the problem?09:13
jribadrian_: compiling is not a basic task09:14
jribthat's what I mean09:14
jribadrian_: use pastebin09:14
adrian_give me the link09:14
jrib!paste09:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:15
adrian_it's a task you ought to know09:15
adrian_right09:15
jribadrian_: not really09:15
jribit's an advanced task09:15
adrian_ok, what's the simple way of installing programs then?09:16
jribadrian_: synaptic09:16
adrian_ok09:16
adrian_i'll consider that when the linuxdc++ is installed09:17
jribk09:18
adrian_jrib: I found a guide how to install this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19398409:19
adrian_jrib: I've done all to Now to install (you can set PREFIX to whatever, but I'd recommend /usr/local)09:20
adrian_jrib now there have been some problems09:20
adrian_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9892/09:21
adrian_jrib I tried to move it to that location which it asks for with no luck09:21
jribpastebin the output of this command: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev09:21
adrian_give the language transation command09:22
jribLANGUAGE=en_US apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev09:23
adrian_here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9894/09:24
jribadrian_: ok what is the output of this command:  ls -ld $(pwd)09:24
adrian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9895/09:25
jribit's ok to paste single lines here09:27
adrian_i know09:27
adrian_but i'm trying to make the paste routine09:27
jribit will be easier for you (and me) when it is a single line to just paste here09:27
jribdo this: cd linuxdcpp09:28
jribthen: ls -ld09:28
adrian_adrian@Adrian:~/linuxdcpp$ ls -ld09:29
adrian_drwxr-xr-x 8 adrian adrian 4096 2007-03-11 17:46 .09:29
jribls -ld build/sconf/config.log09:30
adrian_adrian@Adrian:~/linuxdcpp$ ls -ld build/sconf/config.log09:30
adrian_-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59 2007-03-11 21:04 build/sconf/config.log09:30
jribok09:30
jribsudo chown -R $USER: ~/linuxdcpp09:31
jribthat is a command09:31
adrian_yeah i saw sudo09:31
adrian_done09:31
jribnow try: scons release=1 PREFIX=/usr/local09:32
adrian_this a lloong output09:34
adrian_it seems to be wprking now though09:34
adrian_omg still processing09:38
adrian_after this is finished will I have a working program then?09:38
jribkind of, then you need to install it09:39
jribthis is just compiling09:39
jribassuming nothing goes wrong of course09:39
adrian_ok09:39
adrian_yeah of course09:39
adrian_everything seems to be working nicely09:40
jribknock on wood09:40
adrian_ok, done09:41
adrian_now all I need is to install the program then?09:43
jribyes09:43
jribsudo scons install09:43
adrian_ok. done09:43
jriblinuxdcpp  to run09:44
adrian_yay! Great, and thank you, as great as always :)09:44
adrian_now it on yo get to know synaptic then09:48
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DM|so are you all still keeping this project moving? i dont see a schedule for march11:50

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