[05:51] <effie_jayx> @schedule caracas
[05:51] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Caracas: 11 Mar 06:00: LoCo Team | 12 Mar 14:00: Derivative Team | 13 Mar 12:00: Forum Council | 13 Mar 16:00: Technical Board | 14 Mar 16:00: Edubuntu | 15 Mar 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[05:58] <beuno> @schedule buenos_aires
[05:58] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires: 11 Mar 07:00: LoCo Team | 12 Mar 15:00: Derivative Team | 13 Mar 13:00: Forum Council | 13 Mar 17:00: Technical Board | 14 Mar 17:00: Edubuntu | 15 Mar 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[05:58] <beuno> no way I'm going to make that meeting  :p
[06:09] <effie_jayx> beuno,  lol... it is an hour later from my time
[11:04] <elkbuntu> ok, who is here for the meeting?
[11:04] <Mirv> o/
[11:05] <Mirv> and that's it? :)
[11:05] <elkbuntu> seems so
[11:06] <Mirv> I had the hosting server problem, but got a reply from Jono already stating that it's a sysadmin issue. I would just have liked to hear some thoughts.
[11:09] <elkbuntu> well, i dont think we're going to get much discussion on that.
[11:09] <Mirv> I'm getting somewhat used to that...
[11:10] <elkbuntu> Mirv, that's uncalled for. nobody within the locos would be able to help you. jono is aware, and he can make others aware. that's all you can do.
[11:11] <daviey> no agenda?
[11:12] <elkbuntu> daviey, there is.. at the usual place. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamMeeting
[11:12] <Mirv> elkbuntu: Jono said he can't do anything, so basically I guess he doesn't have too much of contacts in the sysadmins. basically I hoped that maybe community members had some idea if some other hosting solution should be though of, as unfortunately I can't do much else towards Canonical than what I've done.
[11:16] <Mirv> well, if there's nothing better to do, I had actually prepared a list of issues we are facing. they can be logged in the meeting logs...
[11:16] <Mirv> 1. The server has been slow ever since we moved from smurf's server to the new one.
[11:16] <elkbuntu> Mirv, newz2000 is the only one i know of that has powers with the server
[11:16] <Mirv> 2. The server is currently usable, but only because the apache is restarted every 30 minutes to reduce swapping. The restart interval has been shortened all the time (starting from no restarts). The apache does not always manage to start itself again.
[11:16] <Mirv> 3. The server is using Ubuntu 5.10, security support for which is ending in a month. No information about upgrading has been received, and it would probably result in a downtime, just around Feisty release.
[11:16] <Mirv> 4. There are no backups made, and complete backups cannot be made by me without asking someone to change MoinMoin Data permissions each time.
[11:16] <Mirv> 5. The users are disappointed by the lack of resources at Canonical, but surely this is not to blame anyone because everyone is working hard. Especially Matthew Nuzum has been extremely helpful all this time, despite his huge workload, but he cannot bring in the new server, the only real solution to the problem, even if he wanted to. The others have been virtually unreachable on the subject.
[11:17] <Mirv> elkbuntu: yes, he's the one who is keeping us alive, but he can't do anything else beside configuration
[11:18] <elkbuntu> Mirv, i posted on the mailing list and mentioned several times in the channel that there is a page to list such things on. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoReview
[11:18] <elkbuntu> it is from this page that i will be constructing specs to be considered at the next UDS
[11:19] <Mirv> elkbuntu: thanks, I will add information also there. one problem is that we might not be alive until the next UDS.
[11:20] <elkbuntu> that's an incredibly defeatest view
[11:22] <Mirv> elkbuntu: I'm sorry if it sounds too negative, but the problems are starting to be so severe that people can't discuss in the forms, and if the security support ends in a few weeks I don't know what can happen. also if the server dies there are usually no recent backups.
[11:23] <elkbuntu> i am going to PM you an email address of someone who *might* be able to help you out. He usually helps out unofficial projects with web services, but he is not canonical supported or funded, so cannot be relied on to solve all canonicals problems
[11:23] <Mirv> elkbuntu: but Matthew has one more thing he's trying to configure, my hope is that it will help
[11:24] <Mirv> elkbuntu: ok, thank you. I'll also discuss with newz2000 next week.
[11:24] <elkbuntu> this is all i can do for you, sorry
[11:25] <Mirv> I think that's enough of that subject, one thing in my mind is to ask ubuntu-eu.org if in crisis
[11:25] <Mirv> elkbuntu: no problem, I appreciate every bit of help we get to solve the problem(s)
[11:26] <elkbuntu> does anyone else present have any issues to bring up?
[11:28] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  I have an issue. Has a decision been made about using the ubuntu wiki for docmentation for languages that are not in English?
[11:28] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, not at this point. no.
[11:29] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  thanks
[11:30] <elkbuntu> anyone else?
[11:30] <tsmithe> sorry elkbuntu
[11:31] <elkbuntu> unfortunately, we do not have critical mass to cover the agenda items, so im calling this meeting to an end.
[11:41] <Mirv> ok, thanks for the short meeting. added the hosting problems to the end of the LoCoReview page.
[11:40] <sid> @schedule
[11:40] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 12 Mar 18:00: Derivative Team | 13 Mar 16:00: Forum Council | 13 Mar 20:00: Technical Board | 14 Mar 20:00: Edubuntu | 15 Mar 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Mar 10:00: MOTU Council
[11:40] <sid> @schedule New_York
[11:40] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 12 Mar 14:00: Derivative Team | 13 Mar 12:00: Forum Council | 13 Mar 16:00: Technical Board | 14 Mar 16:00: Edubuntu | 15 Mar 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Mar 06:00: MOTU Council