=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.138.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kozz_ [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957947.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.48.78.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lengau_ [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexhider [n=lexhider@59.167.154.109] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] I have a Q. If I remove kubuntu-default-settings package, do I then have vanilla kde settings as in debian? === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.78.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.48.78.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === eeanm [n=ian@amarok/developer/eean] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde_ [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.48.78.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.138.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Alpha_Cluster [n=nikkun@12-208-202-183.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === eeanm [n=ian@amarok/developer/eean] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Alpha_Cluster [n=nikkun@12-208-202-183.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A73E7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] Riddell: ping === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waits for zerlinna [04:51] hi Hobbsee [04:52] heya Jucato - seen planet? [04:52] Hobbsee: about your 2 posts? :D [04:52] Jucato: no. read after :P === Jucato doesn't get it... [04:55] Jucato: read steven herman's post, the comments, and daniel stone's post a couple above that [04:55] aaah [04:55] ok... [04:55] that's why it's a bit quiet in -motu, i think [05:01] Hobbsee: i read -planet a little bit ago :-\ [05:01] I didn't really know it would have created a ruckus :) [05:02] hehe [05:02] neither did i === Hobbsee is still amused === Hobbsee is thinking of a response, though [05:04] heh how do you feeel about being referred to as a sexy lady from AU? :D [05:04] well... [05:04] :D [05:04] if he's doing it sincerely, then it's a compliment, and i'll take it as such. [05:04] hiya Hobbsee and Jucato! [05:05] however, i'd hate for my sexiness, however much that may be, to be the focus of people's perception of me [05:05] hiya nixternal! :) [05:05] Hobbsee: You missed my comment earlier about that :) [05:05] hey nixternal! === nixternal scrolls up to find it [05:05] nixternal: argh! i didnt keep long pointy stick in there! [05:05] [ nixternal] \sh_away: you sexy beast :) nice blog post there ;p [05:05] Hobbsee: now you're in seele's shoes when she was featured in dot.kde.org :D [05:05] ;) [05:05] hehe [05:06] Jucato: you think i havent seen this before? [05:06] nixternal: haha [05:06] Hobbsee: all your secret admirers online? [05:06] damn, I hadn't noticed Daniel's post Hobbsee until you said something [05:06] ajmitch: was meaning in person too. [05:06] ah yes [05:06] secret admirers? where can I sign up? :D === Hobbsee got a secret admirer valentines day present a couple of years ago [05:06] Jucato: then it won't be secret silly [05:07] heh [05:07] bah :) === Hobbsee still has no idea who the hell sent it, as the person she suspected said he hadnt. [05:07] wasn't me [05:07] Hobbsee: haha, I got one this year, and being the ass I am, did a return to sender [05:07] My x-wife got mad at me, so I know where it came from now ;p [05:07] hmm isn't the idea of a secret admirer sending presents to not be a secret admirer anymore shortly after [05:08] yuriy: yes, but 99.9% of the time it goes from secret admirer to some scary ass stalker (hi Jucato) [05:08] haha [05:08] ;p [05:08] yuriy: you would have thoguht that, yes... === ajmitch hasn't stalked anyone for awhile :( [05:08] gahahaha [05:08] ie, never [05:08] nice try to cover that one up [05:08] to late though, it is logged [05:08] heh [05:09] at least Hobbsee knows I'm normal enough [05:09] hehe [05:09] whatever 'normal' means around here [05:09] with your exe [05:09] :P [05:09] (axe in all normal languages) [05:09] :P [05:09] heh, I was getting ready to say, exe, like MS exe [05:10] it's kind of like an axe.. [05:10] hehe! === Hobbsee wonders about the linuxchix link... [05:12] Hobbsee: it is cool. My x is a LinuxChix in DC === ajmitch wonders if he should go & visit australia again soon [05:12] might be wise for me to avoid sydney :) [05:13] ajmitch: why so? [05:13] too many scary people there [05:13] nixternal: it is. but i'm actually not really afilliated with them :P [05:13] ajmitch: with pointy sticks of doom? [05:13] yuriy: she's harmless [05:13] Book VI: Mostly Harmless [05:13] ajmitch: you thought that... [05:14] yuriy: *grin* [05:14] yuriy: you beat me to it [05:14] Hobbsee: I know it's true === Hobbsee has been known to kick, bite... [05:14] mind you, that's usually when someone puts me in a headlock first... [05:14] I'm not that stupid === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.78.117] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:14] oh good === ajmitch should probably reply to some email [05:20] would be nice if somebody on planet would blog about kubuntu bugs week (ack it's monday already even here) === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] yuriy: indeed. [05:45] yuriy: you a member yet? [05:45] yuriy: make Jucato do it :P === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] Hobbsee: not quite yet : ) [05:46] Jucato: ^^ [05:47] yuriy: darn. [05:49] of course i did blog about it myself, but i'm talking to a wall [05:49] yuriy: true that :( [05:49] yuriy: one of us could link to you [05:50] well, it's at gamemank.wodpress.com === Jucato wants to first get over this distupgrade tool bug... [06:01] Jucato: blog first, it'll take planet a bit to resync [06:02] yuriy: know anything about a "can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE" error? [06:02] Jucato: i'd wait for Riddell over that one [06:02] in what? [06:02] and no [06:02] Hobbsee: haven't added my blog yet... I need SSH keys and stuff... [06:02] Jucato: wont take you that long to do [06:04] Hobbsee: ssh-keygen -t dsa right? [06:04] !ssh [06:04] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ [06:04] Jucato: first link. i dont remember offhand sorry [06:04] was so long ago that i did it [06:05] heh ok... I made one earlier.. but since I know squat about SSH and GPG... [06:07] it makes slightly mroe sense after you do it. but mostly not [06:08] hehe [06:10] i still need to make a gpg key too === Jucato now has both.. but not too sure about his SSH key... === Jucato waits for sunlight to reach UTC... [06:12] Jucato: not sure about which bit? [06:12] yuriy: generate it now, if you want === yuriy should be doing hw. stop trying to distract me with more useful things! :P [06:14] Hobbsee: the last part ends in "jucato@kubuntu" [06:14] not sure where it got that part from... my GPG has jucato@kubuntu.org === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] yuriy: go back to it :P === Hobbsee stil lhas one more evil question of physics assignment to do [06:15] Jucato: the last part of which? [06:16] Hobbsee: last part of my id_dsa.pub key [06:16] Jucato: ah yeah, that's normal [06:17] ah so it's normal for it not to be "jucato@kubuntu@org"? [06:17] ah lol! it was taking it from my hostname === Jucato is stoopid [06:17] yep, i was suspecting as much, seeing as mine's sarah@sarah [06:17] hehe [06:17] seeing as you can change the addresses on your public key [06:17] so if I change hostnames... I should regenerate that key? [06:17] er, gpg [06:17] no [06:18] you dont need to [06:18] as long as you keep the private key [06:19] oh ok [06:22] now to install bzr and paramiko :) [06:23] wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu [06:23] :) [06:23] yep [06:23] there already :) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-213-219.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arre [n=ac@1-1-5-33a.gfa.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arre [n=ac@1-1-5-33a.gfa.gbg.bostream.se] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [06:41] morning everyone [06:41] heya mhb [06:42] hi mhb [06:42] morning Hobbsee, seems you've gotten popular recently :o) [06:42] oops.. the hackergotchi required for Planet needs to be smaller than the oe on LP.. [06:42] mhb: indeed! [06:44] right, hackergotchi added to LP too [06:44] hehe :) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:51] Hobbsee: I'm nervous... about to send the bzr commit -m command... what's the -m for btw? [06:51] Jucato: -m "your message here" [06:51] ah... [06:51] Hobbsee: trying to invite more stalkers? :) === Jucato has sweaty hands... [06:52] ajmitch: no. nto really. i have a creepy enough boss at my work. as long as i can avoid him, i should be OK [06:52] heh [06:52] unfortunately, he's the top boss (store manager) [06:52] so i think i might be moving jobs soon :P [06:52] ah, that's unfortunate [06:52] probably a wise idea === Hobbsee doesnt like being spied on === Jucato is not stalking Hobbsee btw... stalking involves secrecy and discreetness :) [06:52] :P [06:52] hah [06:53] Jucato: like that black unmarked van sitting on the road? === Jucato google up "Sarah Hobbs"... [06:53] dang!! it's that conspicuous? [06:53] afraid so [06:53] hm... [06:53] hehe [06:54] btw.. once I add myself to the planet, will it flood the planet w/ my previous posts? :/ [06:54] we'll find out soon :) [06:55] yikes... [06:55] is your blog full of bad poetry & various other things? [06:55] er... [06:55] it is... [06:55] O.o [06:55] wonderful [06:56] there! Committed revision 162. [06:56] now to wait for hours... === ajmitch wonders how long it takes to appear on planet [06:57] "Please note that Planet runs from cron, and it relies on the work of some periodic events on the Launchpad server. Your changes could take up to two hours to take effect." [06:58] useful === ajmitch considers adding his unused blog to planet [06:59] not really worth it [06:59] :D [06:59] planetmania :) === ajmitch reads through Jucato's blog [07:06] eek! it's up already? [07:06] ah not yet :D [07:07] nope, but I know the url :) [07:07] hahah :) [07:21] freeflying: why reject 53543? [07:22] yuriy: do you think that issue is a bug? [07:22] referring to a nonexistent key is a bug, no? even if minor. and anyways an explanation comment would be nice [07:23] like there's probably no good way to fix that.. [07:25] yuriy: I don't know why can't he copy/paste in knsole? he can use F11 and F12 as middle and right click [07:26] but the keyboard shortcut is shift+insert [07:26] Hobbsee, yuriy: http://jucato.org/blog/stomping-on-bugs-for-the-fawn/ [07:27] nice Jucato [07:28] yuriy: just waiting for my blog to be added... === Jucato crosses his fingers... [07:28] whoa planet has fancy shadows and stuff in konqueror [07:28] not just that, it looks completely different than in opera === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:29] lol Hobbsee! sorry if I made you quit :) [07:29] yuriy: haven't seen it in opera... [07:29] the shame === Jucato silently cheers.. yay! 2nd blog post made using vim... [07:30] I can't believe there were classes on using checkinstall === ajmitch shudders [07:30] lol [07:30] yeah [07:30] it was only then that I found out how checkinstall wasn't that recommended [07:30] I trust that Hobbsee has educated you since then? [07:31] yes :) [07:31] good [07:31] hehe [07:31] unfortunately, I still don't know how to package properly lol [07:31] damn, computer froze [07:31] Hobbsee will teach you :) [07:31] yeah, but I think I'll bother her after the release [07:31] hehe [07:31] will i now? === Jucato is also waiting for zakame :) [07:31] you're a mentor, ajmitch [07:31] I am? :) [07:32] yep [07:32] couud have fooled me [07:32] ajmitch: besidse, you're a core dev, so you're better than me. [07:32] haha! I'll be in -motu soon too [07:32] hah [07:32] you will? :) [07:32] packaging wise [07:32] hehe [07:32] yes... another room to lurk in :) [07:32] you dont need to be a MOTU to lurk in there [07:32] Jucato: oh, I thought you mean you'd be a motu soon :) === Jucato also plans to make a slow entrance into -bugs and -doc [07:32] ajmitch: that's the plan bwahaha [07:33] j/k [07:33] first you need to pay the appropriate bribes [07:33] heh :) [07:33] to the "sexy lady from australia likes money foundation" [07:33] hahaha! [07:33] of course ;P [07:33] no, to the "MOTU Council Appreciation Fund" === Hobbsee will just have to get on the MOTU council, then [07:34] but isnt that a direct forward to the aforementioned foundation? [07:34] nope [07:34] awww === Hobbsee files a bug on it [07:34] lol [07:34] Jucato: since it'll probably be expensive for you to ship stuff to europe, just send it to NZ & I'll "distribute" it to the rest of the MC, OK? === Hobbsee marks it with critical importance [07:34] hah [07:35] lol :) [07:35] Hobbsee: hm.. Steve = Stephan Hermann right? [07:35] Jucato: yes [07:35] ah ok === ajmitch has never seen him use the name steve [07:35] er, i should probably change that [07:35] yeah === Hobbsee thought he was steven, for some reason. [07:36] no, we have enough of them [07:36] ehhe [07:36] hehe [07:36] done === ajmitch looks at the grilling on the mc list [07:36] I'm sure Jucato will be more than ready for a decent interrogation :) [07:37] hehe [07:37] hehe glad that it's still going to be in a distant future :) === Jucato already has planned packages to work on, though [07:38] woo :) [07:38] working on them now? [07:38] I hope so.. [07:38] nope :) === ajmitch starts drawing up some questions to ask [07:38] last time I tried reading the Packaging Guide... [07:39] let's just say that I had to go to bed earlier that day :D [07:39] hehe [07:39] "Why can libc6 not be Essential: yes"? [07:39] O.o [07:43] uh oh... why didn't my hackergotchi show up? [07:44] Jucato: you didn't add it? [07:44] I did [07:45] your commit didn't have it === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-115-230.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] did you bzr add jucato.png ? [07:45] ha! [07:45] dang! :P [07:46] Jucato: could you do me a favor and put my last name in since you mentioned me? (congratulations your first planet post starts off with my name :P) [07:46] yuriy: heh ok :) === yuriy is Yuriy Kozlov === Jucato knows... /whois is so useful :P [07:47] ajmitch: I have to run bzr commit -m again right? [07:47] yes === yuriy really ought to have a more universal screen name === ajmitch ought to have an interesting irc nickname [07:48] ajmitch: where did you see my commit btw? :D [07:51] bzr log [07:51] Hobbsee: I had to comment on that post :) === nixternal hides [07:52] nixternal: I'm not that brave [07:52] my post was at least pg, maybe pg13 [07:52] hehe [07:52] should create a post that asks A/S/L ! :) [07:53] you're both brave & stupid then :) [07:53] lol [07:54] haha === ajmitch departs for awhile [08:03] haha, Seveas has a super funny blog post [08:04] yeah :) [08:05] and a super funny pic linked to it :) [08:14] gahaha [08:14] I didn't even see that [08:14] oh well === nixternal beds [08:14] g'nite all [08:14] night nixternal! === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=ZOGVpl6F@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arre [n=ac@alchemist.openend.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arre [n=ac@alchemist.openend.se] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === tonio_ [n=tonio@205.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:07] hi === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:22] Tonio_: hi [09:23] Lure: hey :) [09:23] Tonio_: do you know what is the state of k3b 1.0rc6 packaging? === Lure would love to have this in feisty, but time is ticking... :-( === Tonio_ just discovered his car has been broken :( [09:24] Tonio_: that is never good :-( [09:24] this night.... [09:24] Lure: dunno concerning k3b === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950FA88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato waves to Lure and Tonio_ (although a bit late...) === Lure waves back to Jucato [09:50] Lure: added my blog :) [09:50] thanks for the howto page, btw :) [09:51] Jucato: great - good to have more Kubuntu blogs on planet [09:51] yeah. hope I can fill the planet w/ Kubuntu love :D [09:52] (it also helps that we have that sexy lady from AU w/ a LongPointyStick :D ) [09:53] Jucato: lol [09:57] argh.............. 600 euros to get my car repaired........... [09:59] Tonio_: french car? I know the feeling.. ;-) [09:59] Lure: english car [09:59] rover === Lure has Renault Laguna and went through his pile of 600 EUR repair bills [09:59] Tonio_: oh, that is even worse ;-) [10:00] Lure: yes :( [10:00] Lure: the point is that it has been manually broken [10:00] not car accident [10:00] is "retrovisor" correct ? [10:00] if yes, it looks like someone broke it just for fun..... [10:02] that's very common in france [10:02] which drives me nuts [10:04] Riddell: howdy ? [10:04] Riddell: I'm back in the work === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:19] nixternal: *grin* [10:21] Hobbsee: !! === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db447ae.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] crimsun: concerning bug 87253, I've noticed that with the current kernel patch, one just need to unmute the line in to get sound from the speakers [10:49] Malone bug 87253 in alsa-driver "internal speakers do not work on MacBook Pro" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87253 [10:50] crimsun: I'll wait for the new kernel to be out to test the proposed patch and give you feedback, probably in a few days === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] crimsun: looks like the second patch is just to make speakers and headphones independantly configurable === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] <_StefanS_> hi there [11:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey long time no see :D === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato waves to _StefanS_ [11:01] <_StefanS_> Jucatooooooo [11:01] :) [11:02] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I think i know how to handle that kdesu thing (when i eventually get around to it).. [11:02] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I'm just going to use a static screenshot [11:02] <_StefanS_> Jucato: and fade it [11:02] _StefanS_: great! once Riddell gets back, I'll probably be able to get around my distupgrade tool problem and finally join the ranks of the feisty :D [11:03] <_StefanS_> Jucato: please do, it works great .. have been on since herd2 and havent really had any major probs [11:03] _StefanS_: I've only been holding back on upgrading because I want to help test the dist-upgrade tool [11:04] judging from the experiences of people who have accidentally included the edgy-proposed repos in their sources.list, it sort of doesn't work now... [11:04] so I'm waiting (since Saturday evening) for Riddell :) [11:05] <_StefanS_> oh [11:05] <_StefanS_> I will probably just reinstall anyways when it goes final [11:05] <_StefanS_> too much screwing around on my current installation :) [11:05] heh. I'm hoping that I will not reinstall this time... [11:05] just to help dispell the myth :) [11:05] <_StefanS_> ah yep.. [11:06] but ever since Breezy, I've always had dist-upgrade problems and ended up reinstalling anyways.. [11:06] <_StefanS_> Jucato: there was some changes to upstart here in the last updates, so I'm kinda interested to see if it changed things [11:06] ooh upstart :) [11:06] <_StefanS_> yep [11:06] _StefanS_: yes I was on vacations [11:06] now I'm back in the work === Jucato has no idea about that... just knows that it changed sys v init :) [11:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: multiple vacations ?? :) [11:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: just kidding [11:07] heh hi Tonio_! are you available for 2 quick questions? :) [11:07] Jucato: sure === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:07] _StefanS_: just a 2 weeks break [11:07] :) [11:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ow, went somewhere warm ? [11:08] _StefanS_: back in family on ly [11:08] only [11:08] Jucato: what's up? [11:08] Tonio_: first is the Flash installer script in Konqueror. it installs in $HOME right? so APT doesn't know about it? what if an update to flash is available? how will users be notified? I think that was a problem in Edgy (Flash 7 to 9) [11:08] Jucato: they won't, if they want too, they have to install the package [11:09] and if they install the package? there will be no conflicts between the one in $HOME and the one installed by apt? [11:09] Jucato: no conflict, the most recent file is used [11:09] ah ok :) === Jucato scratches 1 item off his list :D [11:10] Tonio_: 2nd question, since you're the one fixing the kcm stuff :) [11:11] Jucato: yes [11:11] Tonio_: work? as in job? [11:12] it's about kommando. in the latest version, installing Kommando adds a control module in KControl -> Desktop. just wanted to check if it gets added to system settings as well. (in case someone installs it on feisty... but what are the chances of that?) [11:12] hi Riddell! :) [11:12] hola [11:13] Riddell: work for ubuntu ;) [11:14] ah [11:14] Riddell: no job atm, unfortunatelly.... my city isn't that nice for sysadmins.... I refused 3 jobs last month [11:14] companies wanted me because of my ubuntu work, but was too far for me... [11:14] Riddell: will fix install-mp3 today, once I get the "pipe" key working on my macbook :) [11:15] talking of france, there's due to be an announcement from the assemblee nationale today [11:15] Tonio_: ryan changed it, but it needs testing [11:15] Riddell: if you're a bit free (or later?), could I bother you with a distupgrade tool problem? [11:15] Jucato: please do [11:16] Riddell: will test then [11:16] Jucato: I'll patch kommando then [11:16] Riddell: basically "can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE". This is the only output I get [11:16] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9998/ [11:16] Jucato: normal edgy KDE or 3.5.6? [11:18] Tonio_: ah kool. I use it that's why I was curious hehe :) [11:18] Riddell: I added the repo for users on KDE 3.5.6 that you have on the KubuntuDistUpgrade page [11:18] Riddell: 3.5.6 [11:18] I added this repo: deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ ./ [11:18] ah, the 3.5.6 one may be out of date, there's some changes I made to edgy-proposed that havn't been in 3.5.6 [11:18] aah [11:18] :) [11:19] Jucato: will do that today, probably evening.... restarting X now [11:19] Jucato: give me a few hours and I'll update that and we'll see if we can get you fixed [11:19] Riddell: sure no problem. I was able to wait for 2 days :D [11:19] I just want to be able to help in the bug week :) [11:20] btw, for some unexplicable reason, some users have edgy-proposed in their sources.list. I haven't been able to trace where they got it... so naturally, they've been bothered by the dist-upgrade tool :D [11:21] i've noticed that too, [11:22] kinda hard to help fix those... luckily their sources still remain "edgy" [11:27] Riddell: arounds [11:28] hi freeflying [11:30] Riddell: qt-3.3.8 has problems with Chinese character display [11:31] Riddell: it can handle latin fonts, but chinese fonts can not be used correvttly === Hobbsee waves === Jucato has lifesavers prepared :) [11:34] aww, drat, i missed tonio! [11:35] he'll be back. don't worry :) [11:35] hehe [11:37] freeflying: damn [11:38] Jucato: ok, try now [11:38] ok. trying :) [11:38] Jucato: dist-upgrade to new adept; restart adept; fetch updates to run tool [11:39] yay, Riddell appears to be on a decent connection today [11:39] Riddell: I've found some guys complained this on arch and gentoo too [11:39] Riddell: so that means to try the dist-upgrader again? [11:40] Hobbsee: please do [11:40] freeflying: at last it isn't just me I guess [11:41] freeflying: if I go to http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/ some of the characters are displayed but a lot are just dots === Hobbsee wonders when \sh_away will come back. [11:42] Riddell: if I set kde to use a chinese font, it can not display all character, some are dots [11:42] Riddell: am I supposed to see upgradeable packages? [11:42] because after running sudo apt-get update, I don't get any... and pressing Fetch Updates in Adept always launches the dialog box to check for new Kubuntu versions [11:43] Jucato: should be adept 2.1.1ubuntu3.3 [11:43] Jucato: you couldnt get the rss feeds to show your entire post, not just a summary, could you? [11:43] Hobbsee: I could... but sometimes I write really long... so would that be advisable? [11:43] Jucato: what does apt-cache policy adept show? [11:44] 2.1.1ubuntu3.3 [11:44] Jucato: well, i prefer it, and i suspect those who only use rss feed readers would too. [11:44] Jucato: those who read planet also get used to reading long posts, i suspect [11:44] Hobbsee: ok. will change :) === Hobbsee doesnt know what the standard is, though [11:44] neither do I :) [11:45] some in Planet KDE (specially those coming from kdedevelopers blog) use summary mode... [11:45] Jucato: is that what you have installed? [11:45] Riddell: yes [11:45] ah yes. bleeping kde.org news feed does, i remember that much. [11:46]