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Cycoi just dont know what else it is, i put some slack on w/ kde and 2.6 kernel and the sucker flies12:14
redcardneandrake: No problem.  I ran into a similar situation where the CD burned badly..12:14
bxnpsame applies to running openoffice on windows on linux, its loads faster on windows and is more responsive asswell even some sun guy gave an explenation for that behaviour12:14
Cycobut as far as managing system ubuntu is much easier12:14
redcardCyco: There's a lot more cruft in Ubuntu that makes it slower.12:14
neandrakeredcard, any suggestions for properties for burning?12:14
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bxnpyes it ise Cyco12:14
Cycodefine:cruft12:14
redcardneandrake: None, really.12:14
Hasrat_USAi'm on kubuntu gnome sucks :P12:14
redcardCyco: Just extra stuff and the like.12:14
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Cycohaha ok12:14
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redcardCyco: Lots of things loaded as opposed to slack or fedora core.12:15
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Cycoright, maintaining slack is more time than i have12:15
Hasrat_USAin that case linux might just not be for u bxnp12:15
bxnpbut if you want a realy fast distro the fasted in the world try yoper linux12:15
Cycopackage management for yoper?12:15
bxnpthey have there own package system12:16
redcardHeh.  I used to run LFS.12:16
Cycointeresting will look into, just can't stand rpm12:16
CycoNICE12:16
Cyconew book just realeased a few weeks back12:16
redcardBut.. to be honest.. it's a waste of time nowadays.  I want something that works.12:16
bxnpbut still to be honest i dont care about package system's as soon as my system is what i want i dont install new software or do everyday an update only sec fixes12:16
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redcardI moved from a linux "geek" who messes with the system often to someone who just wants something that works.12:17
Cycoi moved from slack junky to hp admin by day and dont want to fiddle that much at night12:17
Cycolove kubuntu12:18
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Cycospeed is only thing biting my ass right now, but tolerable because everything is working great, guitar setup etc...12:18
bxnpi know12:18
jarhead-xHey all, I still have something wrong with my repos I am getting GPG errors12:18
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Cycojarhead you have to import the keys to the repot12:18
tanlaanhello everyone12:19
kutualguien habla espaol????12:19
bxnpfor example i had a dual boot setup on a friends system and openoffice and firefox load considerble slower on linux then on windows12:19
jarhead-xmanually?12:19
tanlaanI need to talk to someone about remote login12:19
redcardGuitar setup, Cyco?12:19
Cycoya guitar rig by native instruments, wine, jackd12:19
bxnpit seems that most developers have high end system's12:19
kutuALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL????????????????12:19
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Cycoya ....i am building nice system end of month12:20
bxnptanlaan: try nxclient12:20
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bxnptake a look at ww.nomachine.com12:20
bxnpwww.nomachine.com12:20
redcardCyco: Ahh :)12:20
redcardI'm wanting to learn guitar .. heh12:20
tanlaanbxnp: no i just need to know some stuff on it, like I want to have my desktop downstairs always on12:20
tanlaanbxnp: and i want to access it from upstairs on my laptop12:21
Cycovnc,ssh,pick your poison12:21
Cycoxdmcp if you like also12:21
Cycobxnp how long you been using kubuntu12:21
tanlaanbxnp: so i would be using my laptop as a terminal. Now this would allow me to run server applications on my desktop 24/7 and I could access files from it whenever from my laptop12:21
redcardI like the whole "Synchronizing" to the desktop thing , not accessing it12:22
bxnpwell nomachine works good i must say to acces  your remote desktop12:22
tanlaanhmm12:22
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bxnpwith the link i gave you you can access whatever pc yuou have from wherever you are in the world12:22
bxnpdunno Cyco12:23
tanlaanhmm brb12:23
Cycoyou real familiar with edgy and upstart?12:23
bxnpare you noticing some responsive difference Cyco12:23
bxnpi run edgy12:23
Cycoya i actually am a bit12:23
jarhead-xhey cyco...how do I easily import the gpg key for http://security.ubuntu.com for edgy-security12:23
redcardDidn't upstart get deferred?12:24
Cycohttp://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html12:24
Cycocheck that12:24
philip2hi i read and followed ntfs-3g guide, but i created and mount a directory how do i get rid of it?12:24
jarhead-xthanks12:24
bxnpumount is your friend philip212:25
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philip2wait ill try12:25
bxnpumount your mounted thingy12:25
Cycojarhead check this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=207457612:25
tabrHelp me start mysql Server. pls..    * Starting MySQL database server mysqld...fail!12:25
bxnpgo to the log files of mysql and see what it says tabr12:25
Cycobxnp -redcard thanks - ttyl12:26
redcardNo problem :)12:26
bxnpyo later Cyco12:26
Cycoi will look at yoper12:26
Cycocya12:26
david___how can i stop my usb wifi from mounting as a cd?12:26
bxnpphilip2: is it working12:27
philip2ok i was able to umount it but the folder/directory is still in /media how do i remove it?12:27
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bxnpjust remove the unmounted directory12:28
bxnprm -rf whatever directory philip212:28
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philip2iu get access denied12:28
philip2ok il try12:28
bxnpsudo -s12:28
bxnpsudo12:29
bxnpphilip2: cause you dont have the rights to remove something in /media12:29
bxnpbut to be honest why do you bother for that directory12:29
bxnpand what is the name of that direcotry12:29
philip2 /media/hub12:29
bxnpand you created that directory name12:30
philip2"sudo rm -rf /media/hub" like this?12:30
philip2yes12:30
bxnpyes you remove it that way12:30
philip2iok12:30
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philip2still there12:30
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bxnprefresh konqueror12:31
bxnpor what every ou use12:31
philip2its ok now12:31
philip2sorry about that12:31
philip2thanks bxnp12:31
bxnpnp philip212:31
philip2^^12:31
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philip2forgot about case sensitive12:31
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bxnpand did it work to write to ntfs philip212:33
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philip2yes12:33
bxnpcool, so its stable12:33
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philip2i have to go thanks again12:34
tabrbxnp : /var/log/mysql.err - empty. /var/log/mysql.log - empty. /var/log/mysql.log.1.gz=>mysql.log - empty, locate mysql.log => /var/log/mysql.log,/var/log/mysql.log.1.gz.12:35
bxnpoke tabr12:36
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jarhead-xcyco: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 212:37
bxnptabr: you have all the packages installed for mysql12:37
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premier_does any one here have experience with foriegn langauges, like japanese?12:37
premier_!jp12:37
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 12:37
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bxnptabr: i have to go to bed, so i am not able to help you further12:39
bxnpmay i remind you there is allso a mysql channel on the server12:40
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bxnpmaybe a better place for asking help about mysql related problems12:40
jakeguys how do run compiz?12:42
Hasrat_USAyou mean how do guys run compiz?12:42
bxnpdont jake its overrated12:42
bxnpjust use the console :)12:42
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Hasrat_USAhow about how girls run compiz? :D12:42
Hasrat_USAi bet 80 percent of the educated female population in the united states doesn't even know how to install XP :P12:43
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tanlaanive installed No Machine on my system, can you help me figure out how to run it?12:44
jakeplease tell me how run compiz12:44
jarhead-xhow do I find the key number for us.archive.ubuntu.com12:44
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bxnpis it running tanlaan12:44
tabr[mysql-server] ,[mysql-server-5.0] .[mysql-client] ,[mysql-client-5.0] ,[mysql-common] ,[libmysqlclient15off] ,[libmysqlclient15-dev] ,[libmysqlclient14] ,[libdbd-mysql-perl] +GUI tools+Apache2(works)+php5(works)12:44
tanlaandoes it run in the background automatically? or do you have to go through the NX Session Administrator to start it?12:45
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bxnpwell if you configured it to start at boot time it should run as we speak12:45
bxnpoke to this12:45
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bxnptanlaan: alt -f2 nxlcient12:45
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bxnpthen go to configure12:46
bxnpput your host12:46
bxnpin12:46
tanlaanwait wait wait12:46
bxnpthe kind of desktop you want to run on that remove machine12:46
tanlaani installed this through .deb files12:47
tanlaanand for some reason its not in my usr/bin12:47
bxnpyes so what, do you have nxclient install12:47
bxnpinstalled12:47
tanlaanyea12:47
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tanlaani have server, node, and client12:47
bxnpwell run the program wherever it is12:47
tanlaanok12:47
jakeplease, if you install you install compiz is it automattically running?12:48
tanlaanit brings up NX Session Administrator12:48
tanlaanand then I have only one choice, start a session12:48
tanlaan*start a new session12:48
bxnpif you do nxclient it runs the session administrator ????12:48
tanlaanno12:48
tanlaanone sec12:48
tabrbxnp [01:44]  <tabr>12:48
tanlaanthere normal client12:48
tanlaanok now I'm supposed to put in session, host, and internet type12:49
tanlaanwhat should my host be?12:49
bxnpdo this12:49
bxnprun /usr/NX/bin/nxclient12:50
bxnpoffcourse not with run infront12:50
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bxnpbut that is the binary you should be running12:50
bxnpand its in that directory12:50
tanlaanok12:50
tanlaanwell now its up12:50
bxnpgood12:50
tanlaan*like last time12:50
tanlaan**12:50
jakeanybody here dont know how to run compiz,12:51
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bxnpcan you  go to configure tanlaan12:51
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tanlaanIm in the configure12:51
tanlaanbecause its the first time running/i havent finished the configuration12:51
isaola12:51
tanlaanso yea, i need to put in a session name, host, and select my internet type. I get session name because thats what its saved as, i get internet connection, but what about host?12:52
bxnpoke12:52
isacual es el canal de spain?12:52
bxnpthe host is the ip adres of the box you want to connecto to12:52
tanlaanso what, i could type 127.00.00.1 to connect to my own computer?12:53
bxnpyou could,12:53
bxnpbut then you open an session to your own box12:53
jarhead-xthis is getting frustrating.12:54
bxnpbut you could try it to test if everything is working12:54
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tanlaanyea, thats what i would have to do atm because im on the desktop im gonna run the server off of12:54
jarhead-xthe reason why i am trying out kubuntu is because the package management is supposedly WAY better than fedora12:54
jarhead-xI am having a heck of a time with it12:54
jarhead-xsudo apt-get update12:55
Hasrat_USAlol12:55
bxnptanlaan: put in your username password12:55
bxnpfill in the screen size you want12:55
jarhead-x The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 212:55
bxnpthe kind of connection speed12:55
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bxnpand if you go to the advance tab12:55
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Hasrat_USAi'm a big time KDE fan but i still use GNOME's synaptics and i believe it's the best when it comes to package management12:55
bxnpenable ssl encryption tanlaan12:55
tanlaanbxnp: yea, i got all that12:55
bxnpand use maximan cache12:55
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tanlaanbxnp: but it won't connect, the server isnt up12:55
bxnpoke12:56
bxnptanlaan:12:56
tanlaanbxnp: THATS what i wanted help with :D12:56
jarhead-xanyone have an idea why I am getting  The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 212:56
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jarhead-xwhen trying to sudo apt-get update12:56
tanlaanjarhead-x: what have you done so far after installing kubuntu?12:56
bxnpdo /etc/init.d/nxserver start tanlaan12:56
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Tm_Tjarhead-x: Have you touched sources.list ? Can you pastebin all what does apt-get return?12:57
jarhead-xyeah...I have modified the sources.list12:57
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tanlaansay nvm it IS running12:57
Tm_Tjarhead-x: Pastebin that too then.12:57
Tm_T!paste12:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:57
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bxnpbtw do you have an ssh server running tanlaan12:58
bxnpbecause it should12:58
tanlaani just ran "sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver start" and it said it was already running12:58
ubuntuhow can i use konqueror to specify a user/password to log into a samba server?12:58
Tm_T!samba12:58
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:58
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bxnpoke12:58
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bxnpwell then its running tanlaan that is good12:58
Ademan_kitchenright my problem is with konqueror, not with samba12:59
tanlaanhow do i tell what my ip address is from the CL?12:59
bxnpwhat is the error console give you in nxlcient when you want to connecto to localhost12:59
draikIs anyone using KTorrent right now? I don't seem to have the Download/Upload/Search tabs.12:59
Ademan_kitchenifconfig12:59
Tm_TAdeman_kitchen: There's nothing related to that?12:59
Ademan_kitchendraik: i'm using it as we speak12:59
Tm_TAdeman_kitchen: I know basicly nothing about samba, sorry. ;(12:59
Ademan_kitchenTm_T: haha its ok01:00
Tm_TAdeman_kitchen: I try to avoid such things as much as possible. :)01:00
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jarhead-xTm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9946/01:01
Ademan_kitcheni have to back up my home directory from this computer onto my file server because envy (the driver installer) ruined the computer01:01
chavodraik, the tabs are back in the latest version01:01
jarhead-xThanks for taking a look01:01
tanlaanhttp://pastebin.ca/39124901:01
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tanlaani think my router is blocking the port01:02
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Ademan_kitchentanlaan: are you behind the same router as the ssh computer?01:02
tanlaanyes technically, right now im ON the ssh computer01:02
bxnptanlaan:01:02
Ademan_kitchenbecause no matter how hard i tried, i couldn't get my router to let ssh connectiosn through01:02
bxnpstart the ssh server on that machine01:03
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bxnp/etc/init.d/ssh start01:03
bxnpits not running so the connection is refused01:03
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tanlaanfark01:03
bxnpstart it and connect again01:03
tanlaanno ssh client01:03
tanlaanor atleast in init.d01:04
bxnpthat is the server when you start it01:04
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bxnpoke do well install the ssh server tanlaan01:05
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Tm_Tjarhead-x: Looks nice, I assume you would like to enable security repos for universe and multiverse too though.01:05
draikchavo: I have the latest version01:05
jarhead-xok cool01:05
tanlaanbxnp: just ran "sudo apt-get install ssh"01:05
jarhead-xI wonder if my content filter isn't borking up the gpg stuff?01:06
Tm_Tjarhead-x: Also, it seems to me that us-mirror has some broken content perhaps? Try removing 'us' part from broken repositories.01:06
Tm_Tcontent filter?01:06
jarhead-xdansguardian01:06
Tm_THm?01:06
jarhead-xgoing to bypass that quick01:06
Tm_TOk.01:06
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Tm_TAnyway, try fiddle about those repositories. :)01:07
bxnptanlaan: do sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:07
bxnpyou need that one01:07
tanlaangot it to work01:07
Tm_TOk. I'm heading to bed, kids, remember to behave and have fun. ->01:07
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tanlaanbxnp: shouldnt need any more help :D01:08
tanlaanbxnp: thank you for your time01:08
bxnpwhat is it working01:08
space_ninjahow do set up the computer so it will automatically shutdown a certain time?01:08
tanlaanim gonna go try it with my laptop01:08
space_ninjaat a01:08
tanlaanbxnp: I successfully connected to my computer01:08
bxnpand you have your kde desktop01:09
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Hasrat_USAdamn i wanna buy a touch screen monitor and run beryl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk01:09
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tanlaanbxnp: yes, but im running gnome *on ubuntu, just like #kubuntu better its nicer :D*01:10
bxnpoke np, glad to be of services01:10
bxnpbtw you could combine this with hamachi01:10
bxnpif you are behind routers and dont want to open up port ssh to the internet01:11
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bxnptabr: you are still here01:12
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tabrbxnp yes01:13
bxnpoke your mysql problem01:13
bxnpis not solved yet01:13
tabrbxnp i think, its maybe broken package ...removing from cache a re-downloading...01:14
tabrsorry for my english....01:14
morvokcan anyone tell me why I keep getting a popup saying sound server cpu overloading?01:15
morvokthe sound keeps working too.01:16
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StavFXhm, i just installed Kubuntu (<-- completely new to linux) and the first thing on my list is to get audio working, can anyone help?01:21
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bxnpwhat kind of audio card do you have01:21
morvokmine worked outa the box.01:21
jhutchinsStavFX: Well, we don't know what audio hardware you have, or what it's doing (as opposed to not doing)...01:21
jhutchinsStavFX: All I had to do was move the balance slider off center.01:22
StavFXyeah i figured it should work just like that and i thought maybe there's a known bug. but anyway, i'm using an old Creative sound blaster 12801:22
bxnpoke01:22
bxnpwell i think its already working01:23
StavFXand there's no sound at all01:23
bxnpgo to the console01:23
bxnpdo alt f201:23
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StavFXok01:23
bxnptype konsole01:23
StavFXyeah i'm in there lol. i'm not THAT new01:23
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bxnpoke well you said so yourself, so i thought i spell it all out lol01:23
bxnpanyway StavFX01:24
StavFXbut actually keep explaining that specificly xD01:24
bxnpdo alsamixer01:24
bxnptype alsamixer in the console01:24
bxnpunder the bar what do you see01:24
StavFXalright i'm in the mixer thing01:24
bxnpif you read mm01:24
bxnpthat means that its muted01:25
bxnpso now sound will play01:25
bxnpyou have to type the letter m to unmute it01:25
StavFXMaster vol wasn't muted01:25
bxnpand pcm01:25
StavFXno01:26
bxnpoke,01:26
StavFXon the right, Center is muted tho01:26
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bxnpehm, unmute it01:26
StavFXhow do i do that01:27
bxnpincrease the volume with the arrow but dont move it into the red01:27
bxnponly green01:27
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bxnpwich has a value of 7701:27
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StavFXcrap i pressed C and it decreased one side of the master volume, how do i turn it back?01:28
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bxnpz01:28
bxnppress z01:28
StavFXok01:29
tanlaanbxnp: hey do you know if there is a way to make the sound not play through the server computer but from the remote computer?01:29
bxnpyes that is all possible01:29
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tanlaanwhere are the settings to change?01:29
bxnpbut you need a client who is able to recieve it01:29
StavFXso set it to 77 or not? because 77 is where it hits red01:29
bxnpehm something around there01:30
StavFXwell either way there's still no sound01:30
bxnpehm01:30
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StavFXi even plugged another set of speakers to the onboard sound card to see if it's coming from there, but nothying01:31
morvokthe sound card listed is lspci?01:31
bxnpoh you have two cards01:31
bxnpyes do a lspci01:31
bxnptanlaan: but you where talking about nxclient you want to hear the sound of your gnome desktop in your remoe session01:31
crazy_buswhat is the best kubuntu program to burn a video file into a dvd watchable on a standard player01:31
intelikeyi see in /var/log/  a subdir named 'unattended-upgrades'   please tell me that ubuntu doesn't do that by default ?01:31
tanlaanbxnp: yes, atm it is coming out of my server computers speakers01:32
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StavFXah yes, it's been trying to send to the onboard until now, but there's no sound coming from there, so back to square 101:32
bxnpahaah01:32
tanlaanbxnp: I want it to come out of the remote computers speakers :D01:32
tanlaanbxnp: although this makes me think No Machine is a very viable thing to use for an automated house01:33
bxnpdid you enable multimedia support tanlaan in the nxclient configuration01:33
tanlaanumm01:33
tanlaanill find out :D01:33
bxnpgo to the configure tab01:33
bxnpthenb go to services01:34
bxnpand there you find it01:34
bxnpsame for printing01:34
bxnpand file sharing trhough the smb protocl01:34
StavFXin windows i'd just assume i'm missing a driver...?01:34
tanlaanokk, now it should work :D01:34
morvokStavFX: look for the drivers using lsmod.01:35
bxnpbtw tanlaan put the cache up to the maximan01:35
intelikey                                                                 i see in /var/log/  a subdir named 'unattended-upgrades'   please tell me that ubuntu doesn't do that by default ?01:35
bxnpbtw StavFX the card should be working out of the box the most easiest way is to disable the onboard sound in your bios in boot up01:35
tanlaanbxnp: oo, i did that right off the back :D01:35
StavFXmorvok: can u explain? what is lsmod and how do i see which drivers are using it?01:35
tanlaan*bat01:36
bxnplsmod is listing the modules01:36
bxnpmodules like drivers StavFX01:36
morvokStavFX: type 'lsmod', it lists the modules you're kernel has loaded.01:36
AiwuuJava01:36
bxnpfor example the moduels loaded for you wifi card your motherboard et cetc01:36
Aiwuu!java01:36
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:36
morvokStavFX: look for snd_*01:36
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bxnptanlaan: you mean that you put the cache up to the maximan already01:37
tanlaanyup01:37
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StavFXi found this line:  snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm               i'll keep looking for more01:37
bxnpgood, and is sound working tanlaan01:37
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darklanternHI all, what do we know about lan printing and firewalls, i have a tricky problem01:37
bxnpwe are the borg, this channel knows everything01:38
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darklanternExcellent -/wring hands/01:38
bxnpthe collective knowledge of this channel is vast, and growing while we speak01:38
bxnpstate your problem01:38
morvokbxnp: not completely.  no one answered about my arts sound server overloading.01:38
morvok:)01:39
bxnplol01:39
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StavFXok there a few lines with "snd" in it, but i don't know what's relevant. actually i don't understand much of the output from lsmod01:39
bxnppatience01:39
darklanternMy nix box is a file a print server (ish), i can connect my xp laptops to it to print via wireless networks, new line01:39
bxnpsomethimes people are a bit lazy01:39
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morvokgoogles some more.01:39
bxnplike me, somethimes i see a problem know the answer but too tired to answer the question like know01:39
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bxnpits 1.40 in the morning i need sleep so iam  off01:39
darklanternbut i have installed guarddog firewall, let IPP and port 631 thru01:39
Cycohey bxnp seems to be a bit more responsive after the "renice" - thanks01:39
StavFXnoooooooooooo!!!! :P01:40
tanlaanbye bxnp01:40
StavFXlater. thanks for the help :)01:40
crazy_buscan k3b burn a video file so its playable on a normal dvd player.  Or is there a better way?01:40
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bxnpbtw if you reboot you have to renice it again01:40
bxnpyou could allso renice app's if you want01:40
darklanternwhen i boot the xp machine it does not connect to the printer, but if i turn off the firewall then it connects as normal, i turn the firewall back on a it still works.01:40
Cycoawesome - got it.....never thought of renice!01:40
bxnpbut be sure not to renice it more then -5 or 401:40
bxnpits a dirty work around01:41
bxnpnot very elegant i must say01:41
Cycoya i gotcha, will work for a month ya know01:41
bxnpbut it works01:41
Cyconext machine will not have to worry bout limited resources01:41
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darklanternI can not get the xp machine to talk through without turning off the firewall :(01:41
jhutchinsbxnp: That's what nice is for.01:41
bxnpwhat jhutchins ?01:42
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StavFXhmmm ok i'll worry about sound later. i got another question. i looked for installing WINE and it said somewhere to open Adpet and search for "wine" in the search box. but it comes up with nothing, what am i missing?01:43
Cycostavfx have you added extra repos?01:43
Cycoor you still sitting on default01:43
StavFXdefault01:43
bxnpmy god why is kubuntu not configuring the extra repo's as default01:43
bxnphow many times people come looking for the same answer, wich is enable to extra repo's01:44
morvokbxnp: same reason the root account is disabled.01:44
StavFXah ha, and a quickie on how i enable those?01:44
Cycohttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:44
bxnpnot its just plain stupid, and trust me it will change01:44
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bxnpsooner or later, they will configure those extra repo's from install01:45
jake_what program are similar to morpheus?01:45
Cycowould save some heartache!01:45
philip2hi again how do i edit my Grub menu if my windows xp installation is in sda1 (Sata;my kubuntu reside here too) ?01:45
draikHow do I bring back the tabs from kTorrent?01:46
darklanternttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G01:46
darklanternOops should read properly01:46
philip2no01:47
philip2there's no windows xp option in my grub menu01:47
Orange1wine created a directory Program Files -- how do i get in there -- cd Program Files            isnt going to work01:47
Cycocd ~01:47
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Cyco~/.wine/drive_c01:48
Cycophillip http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:48
bxnpmorvok: there are question's ask in every linux distro channel on this server, wich are asked over and over again, only because those distro builders dont listen to what people want01:48
Cycolook down there is as section on adding xp to grub01:48
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Orange1cyco: whats the rest01:48
bxnpand its cross distrubutions01:48
Orange1cyco: i want to put  some files into 'Program Files'01:49
Cycoright01:49
Cycocd into home directory, /.wine/drive_c and do an ls01:49
CycoProgram Files is within01:49
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Orange1yep01:49
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Orange1Cyco: im at the door - how do i get inside01:49
Cycoor in konqueror go to view, show hidden files, you will see your .wine01:50
Cycofolder for the gui01:50
Cycoi cannot explain how to copy files01:50
Cycoman cp01:50
philip2thanks ill be back later01:50
Orange1how do i get inside 'Program Files'01:50
Cycocd01:50
Cycocd P then press tab01:50
StavFXcyco: that link doesn't show the "easy way" for Kubuntu, it looks different on Ubuntu01:50
Cycowhat easy way?01:50
StavFXapt-get01:50
Orange1cd Program\ Files/01:50
Orange1thats all i needed to know01:51
Orange1i didnt know about \01:51
Cycocool01:51
StavFXor using the Adept Manager01:51
Cycoaaahh yes01:51
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Cycowell its good to know the working of adept01:51
Orange1isnt .wine suppose to be at /home/USERNAME/.wine  ??01:51
Cycoyes01:52
Orange1should i move it -  or will something break01:52
Cycowhere is it currently01:52
Cycotype pwd01:52
Orange1 /root01:52
Cycoand .wine is located there -  i find that hard to believe01:53
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Orange1root@Orange:~# pwd01:53
Orange1/root01:53
Cycotype whoami01:53
StavFXalright so how do i add the extra repo's in adept manager?01:53
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Orange1orange@Orange:~$ whoami01:54
Orange1orange01:54
Cycoview - - manage repos STAVFX01:54
StavFXyeah i'm there, what do i add/change?01:54
Orange1uncomment all of them01:55
Cycoyes01:55
Orange1should be like 401:55
Orange1you can right click them and hit enable01:55
Cycothanks orange01:55
Orange1back to installing flash 8 with wine01:55
StavFXuncommet?01:55
Orange1StavFX: just right click on them and hit enable01:56
StavFXall of them?01:56
Orange1StavFX: on the ones that have a url in them - yes01:56
Cycoorange so did you get the .wine issue resolved?01:56
JucatoOrange1: Flash 8 w/ wine? you mean the Flash player?01:56
Orange1Cyco: gonna leave it at root -- its not really a problem i guess01:56
StavFXah there are only 6. ok so enable everything i guess01:56
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Orange1Jucato: i mean the program to develop flash01:57
Jucatoaah01:57
Cycodo you have a .wine in your home/orange dir01:57
Orange1Jucato: want the working guide?01:57
Orange1Cyco: i do not01:57
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JucatoOrange1: nah no thanks. :)01:57
Cycoi would try copying the dir to your home, recursive01:58
StavFXok i enabled everything, apply and fetch updates, but wine still isn't in the list01:58
Cycoif you run wine program.exe as normal user it will read out of home/orange01:58
Orange1sudo wine is required now?01:59
Orange1StavFX: just a sec01:59
morvokreboot.. think I found what was triggering the sound server cpu failure.01:59
Cycoi don't know, i don't know how it got added to /root01:59
Cycodid you enable root account?01:59
StavFXi'm waiting :)01:59
Cycoyes adept is slow, learn apt-cache search01:59
bxnpmorvok: is there a legal reason why the extra repo's are not enabled by default01:59
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Orange1StavFX: go to terminal and type02:00
Orange1StavFX: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -02:00
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Orange1including that - at the end02:00
Orange1don't forget that dash after the word 'add'02:01
StavFXalright02:01
StavFXsaid OK02:01
Orange1StavFX: next type02:01
Orange1StavFX: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list02:01
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StavFXdone02:02
Orange1StavFX: sudo apt-get update02:02
Orange1sudo apt-get install wine02:02
Orange1and you set02:02
StavFXCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:03
Orange1close adapt02:03
Orange1or synaptic02:03
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StavFXoh my bad ^^;02:03
Orange1and do sudo apt-get install wine02:03
Orange1its like 9mbs i think02:03
tabrbxnp : 12.03.2007 03:00:16megaserver/etc/init.d/mysql[6171] 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in 12.03.2007 03:00:16megaserver/etc/init.d/mysql[6171] Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!02:03
StavFXawesome! tyvm :)02:04
Orange1np02:04
StavFXmy windows drives are read only, how do i change that?02:04
Cycowhat is in your /etc/fstab02:04
Cyco(/dev/hdb1       /media/data     vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000       0       0)02:05
StavFXUUID=6ADCB3C5DCB38A39 /media/sdb2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 002:05
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bxnptabr: i am on my way to my bed02:06
StavFXoh and there's a 1 at the end02:06
bxnpCyco: could you help tabr02:06
morvok@yay02:06
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tabrbxnp ok, thanks02:06
Cycoya np02:07
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Cycolater bxnp02:07
bxnpadios everybody happy kubuntu :)02:07
StavFXthx ^_^02:08
Cycostavfx you want this mounted at boot, with everyone read/write02:08
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StavFXalright, how do i go about that?02:08
Cycosudo apt-get install ntfs-3g02:08
StavFXntfs-3g?  what does that do?02:09
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Cycoread write support for ntfs02:09
StavFXoh wait it didn't find the package02:09
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Cycohmm hold02:10
StavFXholding02:10
Orange1StavFX: what you trying to install?02:10
StavFXnothing yet02:10
StavFXjust want the access02:10
jake_please any idea newbie tips for using beryl02:10
Cycontfs-3g - Third generation Linux NTFS driver02:10
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Cycoits in my cache02:10
StavFXoh yeah, i'm going to try and install beryl pretty soon :)02:11
Cycohmm lemme see what repo that is in, or antoher method02:11
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Cycoberyl is fun you nvidia or ati02:11
StavFXati02:11
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Cyconice02:11
Orange1lol02:11
Cyconewer card ?02:11
StavFXno, 9800 XT02:11
Orange1isnt ATi the one with issues02:11
Orange1or more workarounds then nVidia02:12
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Cyconot heard many problems with 9800xt stav02:12
Cycoyou should be ok02:12
StavFXcool02:12
StavFXanyway, i'm still not to that point yet02:12
NightBirdberyl supports using the nvidia card to accelerate directly...02:13
StavFXi think i'll work on getting some sort of sound to come out before i make everything pretty :)02:13
Orange1NightBird: thats how i setup mine02:13
NightBirdor alglx... or xgl02:13
StavFXoh, so nvidia would be better for all the eye-candy progs?02:13
StavFXor is there something that does the same thing but is better for ati?02:13
NightBirdStavFX: not nessisarily.... but it's easier to set up02:14
StavFXah02:14
Cycoboth cards/drivers handle aiglx and xgl02:14
Cycostay away from xgl though02:14
NightBirdyeah02:14
NightBirdalso, nvidia supports composites built in while ati's driver doesn't..02:14
jake_if ithe wndow manager to beryl, it seens that no effect02:14
Cycoas it is adding another layer to your X session and renders other openGL apps useless02:14
StavFXwell like i said, i'm just putting on my boots and already looking at the summit, gotta take it easy :)02:14
tabrcan anybody help me to start mysql server?02:15
NightBirdso if you want 3d acceleration using the ati, you have to disable composites02:15
bxnpbtw i was thinking is beryl running on a nvidia gforece 102:15
Cycotabr lookin into it02:15
Orange1NightBird: i setup beryl with xgl but it wouldnt load at login - it would just crash at desktop -- then i found the guide to install just with nvidia cards and did it without removing anything -- now i wont touch beryl or something might break (Working now)02:15
Cycogeforce1 bxnp!02:15
bxnpyes Cyco02:15
Cycolol02:15
bxnpi have a spare one ovehere02:15
Cyconice !02:15
Cycoi have a 2 @ work pumpin beryl02:15
NightBirdyeah, xgl uses an OpenGL context, so unless your card supports multiple OpenGL contexts, you won't have 3d acceleration in any opengl programs when running xgl02:15
StavFXso Cyco, back to the NTFS access thing02:16
Cycoah yes02:16
Cycoberyl distractions02:16
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StavFXlol i know02:16
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tabrCyco hmm..what? Problems with my english.....02:16
NightBirdI normally don't mess with it though too much...02:16
NightBirdreduces my battery life by a fair chunk02:17
bxnpbtw tabr go to the mysql channel its better and faster for your answer i guess02:17
Cycoi am still  researching your sql problem02:17
Cycoonly 1 brain - 10 requests02:17
bxnpgo catch the expert people tabr02:17
bxnp:)] 02:17
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Cycoyes!02:17
Cycolol02:17
tabrbxnp ok....but how? Can you give me a link?02:18
Orange1lol02:18
bxnp do /join #mysql02:18
Orange1link to expert ppl02:18
StavFXrofl02:18
bxnpits a channel on the server tabr02:18
bxnpjust like kubuntu02:18
StavFXWTB [Expert Ppl] 02:18
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StavFXlol sry, too much wow02:18
jake_guys if i change my window manager to beryl, it seems that no effect or nothing happens, and the minimize, maximize, close icons are dissapeared02:19
Cycostav did you look up the 3g ntfs driver?02:19
StavFXi would, if i had any idea where to start and what to do02:19
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Orange1jake_: theres a checklist of fixes for the toolbar missing - worked for me02:19
Orange1jake_: give me a sec to get it02:19
tabrbxnp Found. Thanks02:20
Cycohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=write+ntfs STAVFX02:20
StavFXsweeeet02:20
tabrStavFX http://ntfs3g.org/02:20
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StavFXalright my lesson: google more, bother ppl less02:21
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Cycoadd edgy entry to source list,  then sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g, then /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    002:21
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crazy_bushow come when I used devede it said it used all the space avaible in the program but when I burnt it to a 4.7gb disc it only used around half the space?02:21
Orange1jake_: do you have nvidia or xgl?02:21
StavFX"add edgy entry to source list"?  lost you02:21
Cycodo you knkow any text editors?02:22
Cycovi, nano02:22
Cyco?02:22
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Orange1nano is easier02:22
jake_i dont know, im a newbie but i think, ive installed xgl02:22
Cycovi is easier02:22
StavFXthere's this Kate thing that came with the system02:22
bxnpor just do sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:22
Cycobut thats a whole different discussion02:22
Cyco*thanx bxnp02:22
Cycoset -o vi - your prompt becomes vi02:23
ubuntu#kubuntu-es02:23
Cycomost powerful02:23
Orange1jake_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia#My_windows_don.27t_have_any_decorations_.28title_bar.2C_resize_handles.2C_minimize.2Fmaximize.2Fclose_buttons.2902:23
Cycodeb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all add this entry to your sources.list per bxnp instructions02:23
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jake_Orange1: how do i know that im using xgl?02:23
StavFXalright so what's after sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
jake_Orange1:  i dont know, im a newbie but i think, ive installed xgl02:24
Cycoafter your are done adding your fstab entry with ntfs 3g driver type this sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a02:24
Cycook do you have that page up i sent02:24
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Orange1jake_: I dont know much about linux - i just follow guides for all the problems i get (or ask here) -- but i had the same/similar problem of no titlebar -- this fix'd it on the first step02:24
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kutu#kubuntu-es02:25
StavFXi'll just go look at the page for a sec and follow the stuff there02:25
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Cycoyes follow manual config02:25
Cycofor the install02:25
Cycoits plain as day after that02:25
jake_Orange1: ok thanx a lot, so your beryl running normally now?02:26
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joh1how do i get that new firefox setup with mplayer to work right ?02:26
Whiz2I'm trying to use .PHP files on Kubuntu using lighttpd, but do not know how to get PHP, and lighttpd to work together, or how to install PHP with it02:26
Cycoremember after you are done type this to mount your hard drive again with r/w  permissions-->sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a02:26
Orange1jake_: yes - but i spent a lot of time customizing the beryl install02:26
Orange1jake_: since xgl didnt work for me02:27
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StavFXi get Device Busy when i try to unmount02:28
bxnpdo lsof <name of the device> StavFX02:29
Cycobxnp is the sql question answered?02:30
jake_Orange1: its very complicated, i cant hold, or even type a message here when i try to change the win manager to beryl02:30
Cycoi have a link for him which could be of use02:30
bxnpdunno, tabr is your question answered in the mysql channel02:30
StavFXbxnp, what does that do?02:30
Cycotabr check this link out if your still around.  http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-698.html02:30
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StavFXand how do i know the device name?02:31
bxnpwell he is gettings help overthrere02:31
bxnphowever the mysql channel is a bit more strict then this one02:31
BluesKajwhat's the command to uninstall and remove a dpkg ?02:31
BluesKajit's not in the repos02:31
JucatoBluesKaj: if you installed a package using dpkg, it will be added in the list of installed packages in adept or apt-get. you can either use apt-get/Adept or dpkg -r02:32
Cycoif you want to remove config files purge it as to remove it blue02:32
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BluesKajJucato, sorry it's not a deb pkg ...it's a tar.bz202:34
StavFXi get a bunch of errors when trying to run ntfs-config02:34
Cycoi see you over there bxnp so you are the expert undercover!02:34
Aiwuuerr... if i installed java-runtime ... why i dont see java things in firefox?!02:34
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Cycostavfx did you follow the manual config?02:34
StavFXstill looking at it, hold on02:34
joh1i want middle click to push window to the back of other windows... can i do that ?02:34
lontra!medibuntu02:34
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/02:34
Cycoforget config02:34
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Cycosudo apt-get install ntfs-3g02:35
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Cycodo that next stav02:35
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Cycoand then edit your /etc/fstab and replace the line with ntfs partition with this           /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    002:35
Cycoput a # in front of the old one in case you need it later02:35
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Orange1jake_: i think your suppose to install aquamarine as the window manager for kde desktops02:37
Orange1jake_: emerald is for gnome based desktops02:37
Jucatoaquamarine is a window decoration for the beryl window manager02:37
Orange1ya02:38
Jucatoalthough both emerald and aquamarine can work on KDE02:38
jake_Orange1: isit in the repos also?02:38
Jucatoaquamarine's advantage is that it will let you use KWin window decorations/themes02:39
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StavFXyay!! it's working!02:39
Cycovoila02:39
StavFXthanks guys!02:39
Orange1jucato can better help you.. he seems more knowledgable02:39
Whiz2Can php5 work together with lighttpd web server on kubuntu?02:39
StavFXok now what should i tackle next :)02:40
JucatoOrange1: nah. I'm not...02:40
JucatoI only used beryl for 2 days :D02:40
Cycohaha THE WORLD02:40
Admiral_ChicagoOrange1: no Jucato is just a poser :) kidding02:40
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Jucatoyeah Admiral_Chicago is the ultimate knowledgeable guy in here :D02:40
Orange1jake_: can you open beryl-manager?02:40
Jucatoso you all should bother him instead02:40
Whiz2I'll bother him. :-p02:40
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jake_Orange1:  yes and theres a red diamon apears on the taskbar,02:41
Whiz2i need a little help configuring php5 to work with lighttpd web server02:41
Orange1can you get into the settings?02:41
Whiz2for which one?02:41
Whiz2php5?02:41
orient2000!beryl02:41
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:41
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Whiz2oh you're not talking to me02:42
Orange1sry Whiz202:42
Whiz2is ok02:42
StavFXok i'm gonna try and install beryl now, let's hope i don't break anything02:42
jake_Orange1: do you mean "beryl  setting manager?02:42
Orange1jake_: yes02:42
absolutrootdoes anyone know if ndiswrapper in kubuntu edgy is broken like in the gnome release?02:42
Cycowhats your beaf whiz02:43
jake_Orange1: yes and then?02:43
Orange1absolutroot: i use ndiswrapper to load my wifi dell draftn drivers02:43
Aiwuuerr... if i installed java-runtime ... why i dont see java things in firefox?!02:43
Orange1jake_: just checking if u can open them02:43
Whiz2using lighttpd web server in kubuntu, and trying to figure out how to make php pages work correctly02:43
lontrastrigi doesn't seem to be very good in feisty...02:43
Cycodo you have php5 instalelD?02:44
Aiwuume?, no :(02:44
Whiz2just now installed it, and about to reboot, but al i saw were packages for apache in the install02:44
absolutrootin ubuntu, i tried the fix for it, but if would freeze on boot and i would have to mount the hard drive from live cd and delete the conf files for my wifi card02:44
Cycoso you have php5 and lighthttpd installed?02:45
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Cycowhats the problem you are encountering02:45
jake_Orange1: yes i can, one thin is, if i choose the beryl as win manager, everything seems stuck02:45
Orange1you have problems clicking on things?02:45
jake_yes02:45
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jake_i cant even type amessage02:46
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yes, I can take all questions02:46
voidmagejake_: does it go back to kwin after about a minute?02:46
Whiz2not sure if i'm going to have to change/add settings to ligttpd in order for it to work... gonna reboot to find out... was originally asking how to install it. ;-p02:46
CycoIf you're using php5-cgi, all you need is change your "bin-path" at your configuration (Debian uses /usr/bin/php4-cgi as default).02:46
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Cycohttp://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/wiki/TutorialLighttpdAndPHP bookmark that so when you come back up we shall see02:46
Cycowhy the reboot?02:46
jake_yes02:46
Orange1when that happened to me - i just went to the red diamond -> advance beryl options and picked disable gl yield and anything anti xlg02:47
joh1i need to use mplayer to get firefox to play all media files right ? i cant use gstreamer can i ?02:47
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Whiz2I didn't install php5-cgi. just php5 and all required packages for it02:47
Camile_hi02:48
Camile_whats up?02:48
Cycohey whiz i gotta go to bed02:48
Cycoi wish you luck,02:48
Camile_bb02:48
Whiz2ty02:48
Cycolater kubuntees02:48
jake_Orange1: where is it again?02:49
Orange1when that happened to me - i just went to the red diamond -> advance beryl options and picked disable gl yield and anything anti xlg02:49
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BluesKajHowdy Admiral_Chicago , looking for a way to uninstall upstart 3.7 ... seems it corrupted a line my fstab file which keeps popping up when i try to install or make02:50
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jake_Orange1: i couldnt see it02:50
Orange1you dont see advance beryl options?02:52
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Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: what release? Dapper I assume02:53
Admiral_Chicagoalso, what guide did you use?02:53
BluesKajedgy02:53
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stavfxok silly question...after i installed Beryl, how do i actually run it?02:54
Orange1jake_:  you dont see advance beryl options?02:54
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Orange1stavfx: sudo beryl-manager02:54
alakhiaI upgraded from Dapper to Edgy ... but I don't see kde control panel in start menu anymore02:54
jake_Orange1: i saw but where is the disable gl yield and anything?02:55
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stavfxwoah, a lot of failed stuff02:55
Orange1screenshot time - sec02:55
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stavfxumm...i don't see anything special02:57
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stavfxalright i think it's safe to say it's not working02:59
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Orange1jake_: make sure you put the picture to display at actual size or its gonna be too squished to read02:59
jake_Orange1: it doesnt appear on me02:59
joh1 Click Applications  Add/Remove. Select Other and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.02:59
joh1i go to "others" and it shows me only a few applications02:59
joh1i dont see "ubuntu restricted extras" anywhere....02:59
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Dr_williswhat version of ubuntu did you install?03:00
nick_hey jon03:00
joh1who me ?03:00
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Dr_willisor are you using synaptic or adept?03:00
Orange1type in terminal --                  beryl --version03:00
joh1idk the latest...03:00
joh1adept03:00
jake_Orange1: one sec. brb03:00
joh16.1003:01
Whiz2ok so I really do need help lol03:01
Dr_willisjoh1,  thers several 'friendly' ways to enable repos.. or you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (which I find easier) :)03:01
jake_Orange1: beryl-core 0.1.9999.203:01
jon_hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location03:01
joh1oh Dr_willis this is chino wasn't i talking to you the other day ?03:01
Orange1we have same version03:01
Dr_willisjoh1,  i hang in here so much.. i cant even rember. :)03:02
joh1Dr_willis:  yea give me the list if you want and ill add it my self ?03:02
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joh1Dr_willis:  yea remember i was asking a bunch of questions and i was talking about using linux for like 6 years03:02
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joh1ah whatever03:02
Orange1jake_: i dont know how to fix your problem ;( -- and i dont want to break anything cuz then i would feel bad for telling you to do something to make it worst03:03
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joh1Dr_willis:  the web site didn't tell me to install anything into my sources list03:03
StavFXwhen i type sudo beryl-manager i get a bunch of BadDevice and invalid input device errors..03:04
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Dr_willisjoh1,  thats what the 'friendly front ends' are actually doing.03:04
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Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: edgy uses upstart out the box03:05
jon_hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location03:05
joh1Dr_willis:  but like i just said there is no "unrestricted" area....03:05
Dr_willisits amazing how FEW issues ive heard of upstart03:05
Orange1StavFX: beryl --test-only03:05
jake_Orange1: lol what happen to mine03:05
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Admiral_Chicagosorry, was emailing03:05
StavFXno composite extension03:05
Dr_willisjoh1,  i dont use the front ends.. to enable the 'restricted' and otehr repos the sources.list file has some lines similer to -->  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted03:06
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Dr_willisedgy, main, restricted are the  various repositorie catagories.03:06
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StavFXOrange: Checking for XComposite extension               : failed03:06
joh1are they by default commented out or somthing ?03:06
StavFXyou know what this is about?03:06
Dr_willisjoh1,  i would just back up your existing soruces.list and use teh  !easysource site to generate full ones with all enabled03:07
jake_Orange1: can you teach me how'd you take the pic of your screen? ill send it to you03:07
Dr_willisjoh1,  you got it. disabled by default03:07
BluesKajyeah, Admiral_Chicago ,this version is an upgrade to the installed one03:07
Orange1StavFX: that guy said earlier that ati has no composite support03:07
joh1Dr_willis:  what web site is that /03:07
Dr_willis!easysource03:07
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:07
StavFXoh...03:07
Orange1jake_: hit 'printscrn' on your keyboard03:07
kRushis anyone using envy to keep their nvidia drivers up to date? it won't start here with a rather long error output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9968/ - how do I fix this?03:08
Whiz2Using lighttpd, and newly installed php5 (only with required packages) and have no idea how to make them work together. Anyone know how to configure them?03:08
jake_Orange1: lol, see im a newbie.03:08
Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: you should be using it then...03:08
Orange1jake_: so am i -- i just read every post and article i can find for many many hours til i can fix it03:09
Admiral_Chicagopart of the update installs the upstart patch03:09
Orange1should be illegal for someone at my level to give aid to others03:09
Admiral_Chicagogotta run03:09
Orange1Admiral_Chicago: dont leave me!03:10
Whiz2I need a little help here. :-p03:10
Whiz2no pressure of course03:10
joh1Bazaar NG     wttffff is that ?03:11
jon_hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location03:11
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jon_if I go into root it then says I don't have enough permissions03:11
BluesKajwell ok , maybe something else created the fstab prob line 18 :  /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0  <-- this last 0 is in red in the etc/fstab file ...what's wrong ?03:11
Whiz2jon_: Are you using konqueror as your file browser?03:12
jon_yeah03:13
joh1i still dont see that option all i see in the others category is a list of applications not a list of categories03:14
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Whiz2jon_: have you formatted the drive using linux, and mounted it?03:14
jake_Orange1: can you give me a link of those posts, or forums03:14
jon_it was formated under windows03:15
jon_ntfs03:15
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joh1Whiz2:  what ?03:15
Whiz2have you added it into your fstab?03:15
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chin1lol wrong name03:15
Whiz2Sorry joh1. i was talking to jon_03:15
chin1Dr_willis: idk man i still dont see it03:15
Orange1jake_: sure - sec03:16
xanithOk guys, so I re-installed dapper 6.0.6, Put all the edgy repositories in it, and guess what, Opera, Wine and Beryl all work, I've installed Edgy x86 and x86_64 versions, and these same repositories will not work on it. What am I missing?03:16
Whiz2jon_: you can pm me if you like might make this convo a bit easier lol03:16
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Dr_willischin1,  see what?03:16
jon_sorry first time I have had to use this03:17
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jon_how do I pm you?03:17
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Dr_willisim in and out so much pm's tend to get ignored03:17
Whiz2jon_: do you have an instant messenger? we can move to one of those03:18
Orange1http://www.beryl-project.org/   http://ubuntuforum.org  http://kubuntuforums.org  http://www.linuxforums.org/03:18
jake_Orange1: thanx03:18
jon_yeah03:18
eilker!keylogger03:18
jon_msn03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keylogger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
Dr_willisJust go to your own irc channel. :)03:18
xanithSo has anyone else experienced my same problem?03:18
Dr_willismuch easier03:18
Orange1and as always http://www.google.com   (though i prefer http://www.dogpile.com as my search engine03:18
eilkerany keylogger for kubuntu ?03:18
LjL!lkl03:18
ubotulkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)03:18
Whiz2jon_ i sent you a PM with my MSN address... check all your IRC windows03:19
eilkerthanx03:19
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xanithOk guys, so I re-installed dapper 6.0.6, Put all the edgy repositories in it, and guess what, Opera, Wine and Beryl all work, I've installed Edgy x86 and x86_64 versions, and these same repositories will not work on it. What am I missing?03:20
Whiz2jon_: did you get it?03:21
StavFXi don't know what to do with beryl and this stupid XComposite extension03:21
jon_sorry dude can't find your address03:21
Whiz2anyone mind if I put it here for him?03:22
chin1how do i get flash working ?03:22
chin1flash flash flsah03:22
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Whiz2jon_ : jasoncollege24@hotmail.com03:23
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jake_Orange1: is my graphic cant handle beryl? im using ssavage s303:24
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xanithis anyone else using Edgy 6.1.0?03:27
Orange1jake_: never heard of that gfx card -- theres probably a list of unsupported cards on beryl site03:27
chavojake_, I don't think thats supported03:28
StavFXorange you know what can i do to get beryl to work?03:28
chin1my firefox is crashing on flash player ........03:28
xanithcan anyone see what i'm typing at all?03:28
jake_really?03:28
StavFXyeah, i'm using edgy 6.1003:28
chin1does the install for the installer not actually install it ot the firefox ?03:29
xanithStavFX: can u get beryl, opera, or wine to install from repositories?03:29
StavFXhad to enable the extra repo's before i could install wine03:29
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jake_but the site says if you have 3d then your system is supported03:30
xanithStavFX: yea i have the extra repo's enabled, but it gives me like 404 errors and GPG errors on those three things03:30
xanithStavFX: I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i enabled the same repo's in dapper and they work fine03:30
StavFXare you looking for them thru Adpet manager?03:31
chin1automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes03:31
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chin1whats that ?03:31
xanithStavFX: they don't show up in Adept Manager or apt-get03:32
malik_whats the equilant of google earth?..........any 1 have any idea?03:32
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BluesKajgoogle earth linux03:32
malik_:) yes i know but any other product than that?03:32
BluesKajI have it installed03:32
Cobra_Bubbleshrm03:33
Cobra_BubblesI wonder...03:33
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malik_so have i .......im using it but it has old maps i wanted to see if some other service have updated ones03:33
StavFXsry xanith i'm very new to this myself, i don't even remember what i did to get it working, just followed a bunch of commands the more knowledgeable guys here gave me03:33
Cobra_BubblesDo 3-foot-tal metal Wifi antennas exist?03:33
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BluesKajwhy malik_ , there is no other that can compete03:33
Cobra_BubblesPreferably Mag-mount...to mount on my car03:33
xanithStavFX: haha thanks anyway, i guess i'll just have to come back at a time where more people are in here03:33
Dr_willisCobra_Bubbles,  i dont think they need to be near that long. to be effective03:34
malik_what abt MS virtual earth................i heard abt that but cant find it on th net03:34
chin1common guys i thought this was all supposed to be seemless.... it sure does "seem less"03:34
StavFXi'm gonna try and run wow with wine now, google time.03:34
Dr_willischin1,  that the 'to fiesty update' ?03:34
malik_whattttttttttttt fiesty out already?03:34
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sidnelsonhi everyone ...03:35
chin1Dr_willis:  update-flashplugin03:35
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Dr_willismalik_,  there is a upgrader tool for it that is being worked on/tested03:35
BluesKajmalik_, don't there is a linux version , unless you want to run wine , that'll slow it down considerably03:35
Cobra_BubblesI'd get INSANE FREAKING RANGE on it though03:35
Dr_willischin1,  you are trying to update  flash from within the browser?03:35
chin1Dr_willis:  i installed that package and tried to run it and tits telling me that03:36
chin1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash03:36
sidnelsoni install the gnome ( apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ) and the problem is that some kde programs dont open anymore like kopete03:36
Dr_willis!flash03:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:36
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash03:36
sidnelsonkopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z^6QGListC2Ev03:37
sidnelsonkopete: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.03:37
gleb_What vervion of Kubunru shall i install from te point of view of stableness and freshness (and technical support, maybe)?03:37
Dr_willischin1,  i belive i enael the edgy-backports repository and just apt-get install it.03:37
sidnelsoni have this error message03:37
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mollyin KDE, how do i switch the clock from 24hr to 12hr?03:37
chin1Dr_willis:  dude wtf is "enael"03:38
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userundmolly, right-click clock > Time date format > Time & Dates tab > Time format03:38
BluesKajmolly, rt click on clock / date &time format03:39
mollyits set to HH:MM:SS, but its telling me its 21:3903:39
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makuseru!KDE03:39
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.03:39
mollyahhh i wanted it pH:MM:HH:SS AMPM03:40
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mollyokay, thanks guys!03:40
BluesKajmolly, choose : pH:MM:SS AMPM03:40
sidnelsoni mess with my kubuntu desktop :P03:41
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fyrmedicIs there a command that will tell me what my MAC address is from my onboard wireless lan?03:45
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drmercuriohello03:46
drmercurioknow if i can update kubuntu 6.06.1 to edgy?03:46
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drmercuriocan i update dapper to edgy?03:47
Dr_willis!update03:47
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:47
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gleb_What vervion of Kubunru better to install ?03:48
Dr_willisgleb_,  edgyeft is the latest 'stable' version.03:49
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Dr_willisgleb_,  fiesty is due out in a few months03:49
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gleb_Dr_willis, in april?03:50
redcardSo.. I have a dell e1405 laptop.. it's resolution is supposedly 1280x800.. but the best kubuntu is doing is 1024x768,03:50
redcardI've installed 915resolution to no avail.03:50
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chinodoes kubuntu not come with sshd running automatically ?03:50
illusionhello03:50
Dr_willis!feisty03:51
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:51
Whiz2Anyone here know how to make php5, and lighttpd work together?03:51
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illusionhey anyone can help me to run java in firefox?03:52
gleb_thanks!03:52
BluesKajgleb, Apr 19th i think03:52
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chinosshd ?03:55
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bonbonthejonchino: no03:56
gleb_And is there any advantages in Dapper Drake version? What's with technical support there? Is it free? Is it available in another versions?03:56
chinobonbonthejon:  can you give me the exact command to turn it on so i can give it to my freind so i can get in remotely ?03:56
bonbonthejonchino: "sudo aptitude install ssh"03:57
chinoomg its  not even installed ?03:57
bonbonthejonchino: no, its one line03:57
chinowill that automatically start it up right now ?03:57
bonbonthejonchino: yes, after you isntall it, it will start automatically on boot03:58
chinowhat about right now ?03:58
NightBird...can you read from /dev/null?03:58
bonbonthejonchino: after you install it, yes03:58
chinoNightBird:  yea03:58
NightBirdchavo: what do you get? 0?03:58
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chinobonbonthejon:  have you gotten flash to work ?03:59
bonbonthejonchino: yes03:59
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Whiz2I need help configuring php5, and lighttpd so that they work together correctly03:59
chinobonbonthejon: im using edgy 10.6 and i installed update-flashplugin ... but when i run it fails03:59
bonbonthejonchino: there was a package in the repos something like flash unfree, thats what I used04:00
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eckeri just got me a 15" and a 19" lcd and with both ubuntu/kununtu, when i reboot as soon as i pass grub the monitors go out of range until i get to gdm. anyone know why? i change the horiz/vert sync and everything in xorg. i not really sure what the deal is04:04
Bertodoes anyone know how to get the clock to show 12-hour time in KDE?04:04
Bertomy format is set04:04
Whiz2ecker: My LCD does the same thing. As long as it comes back on when you reach the interface, it's not a problem. just ignore it04:05
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Bertooh i'm guessing i have to restart KDE from what i've read in forums.  that's weak04:06
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chavoBerto, you don't have to restart, and put this for 12 hour format pH:MM04:07
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Bertochavo, where are you setting that format?  I set it by right-clicking clock >> Date & Time Format04:07
Bertochavo, and then it still doesn't work.  read in the forums you gotta restart kde04:07
chavoBerto, try this first dcop kicker kicker restart04:09
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Bertochavo, bravo!  thanks!04:09
Thehound666any fglrx experts here? I know that I have asked before but yet to catch one here04:09
Aiwuuhow i can change my keyboard model with setxkbmap?!04:09
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Aiwuusetxkbmap model pc105 layout latam?04:10
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malik_does any1 here any idea which webcam works for sure with kubuntu edgy?.........i have one which is i think installed by kubuntu but i get it to work it seems, if any one can help me with that or otherwise tell me which one i should buy n it will work out of box without any tweaks?04:10
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Aiwuuaff, answer XD04:10
ahlalo_elyonAnyone else having a problem with extremely slow repository speeds?  apt is taking forever04:10
needhelp1hi why do i get error 15: file not found im trying to reinstall grub04:11
Thehound666ahlalo_elyon> intermittantly but not that bad.04:11
Thehound666might depend where you are04:11
ahlalo_elyonThehound666: Hmm.. I usually download at over 100k/sec... now I'm at about 2004:11
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Aiwuuhow i can change my keyboard model with setxkbmap?!04:11
Thehound666I've been doing about 400 KB/sec-bad for a 20 mbit line04:12
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Thehound666ok my experience with #kubuntu suggests that this much delay before an answer means noone here is one :P04:13
Thehound666I'll ask something related then but not quite the same. Anyone know an fglrx expert I should look for when idling?04:15
malik_does any1 here any idea which webcam works for sure with kubuntu edgy?.........i have one which is i think installed by kubuntu but i get it to work it seems, if any one can help me with that or otherwise tell me which one i should buy n it will work out of box without any tweaks?04:16
Thehound666was a list but I forget the link04:16
Thehound666it was on Ubuntu.com04:16
malik_any suggestion abta webcm which i can use as plug n play ?04:16
Thehound666luckily mine worked04:17
Thehound666old but good one04:17
RadiantFireanother place to check is the stuff listed as supported by v4l and v4l204:17
Thehound666not all features work but that's to be expected with any Linux distro04:18
Thehound666still beats Vista04:18
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Thehound666namely color depth switching and certain digital zoom features04:19
Thehound666oh well lol04:19
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jake_how can i install themes kubuntu?04:22
teufel_flash audio ouf of sync in konqueror anybody have this problem and fixed it04:22
crazy_busdo you need external programs to burn a emovix cd with k3b.  As I tried but it wouldn't work04:22
chinohow do i get javascript support in elinks ?04:23
teufel_ha nobody here to help04:23
BluesKajemovix cd , crazy_bus ...what is that ?04:24
teufel_hmm04:25
crazy_busits a livecd which has mplayer allowing anyone to watch the video or audio files on the disk04:25
BluesKajwhy do you need a live cd with mplayer on it ...whynot just use mplayer in Kubuntu ?04:27
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crazy_busI can.  But you can give the cd to other people to watch without installing codecs.  I mainly wanted to try it for fun04:28
khirr!mp304:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:29
khirr!amarok04:29
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok04:29
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Bi||aBongi install the ati driver but now i can't open Kaffeine Media Player04:31
Wingz#ubuntu04:32
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malik_since when amarok started to play dvd?04:38
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Bertodo ubuntu repositories have a mega english font pack?04:42
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Bertoand i'm talking mega!04:42
Dr_willis!find chatzilla04:42
ubotuFound: mozilla-chatzilla04:42
Cobra_Bubbles@_@X04:44
Cobra_BubblesWill Skype work in Kubuntu?04:44
KnightlustCobra_Bubbles: yep04:44
Jucato!skype04:44
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:44
Knightlustbeen using it for months now04:44
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khirri'm newbie in linux, dunno how install firefox 204:46
teufel_yeah i would like to know how to play wmv files in firefox04:46
khirr6.06.1, i downloadesd brz file, but i dunno how intall this04:46
Jucatokhirr: are you using Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)?04:46
khirrno04:46
khirrdapper04:46
Jucatoteufel_: try installing mozilla-mplayer04:46
Jucatokhirr: ah...04:47
alakhiamy apologies if this is not the right place for this question ... I have 3 linux boxes and I'm tired of ssh'ing and sftp'ing and typing my password everytime. What can I do?04:47
Jucato!firefox | khirr04:47
ubotukhirr: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:47
teufel_ok cool04:47
khirris bad use dapper?04:47
teufel_brb04:47
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Jucatokhirr: it's ok. read the page on FirefoxNewVersion04:47
Kamesh[Subject: My Trash icon changed to Desktop icon, KDE 3.3, CENTOS] . Hi all, I have noticed that my Trash icon has been changed to desktop icon (NOT the functionality) and I want to bring it back. I am not sure exactly how this has happened. But I believe I was downloading some things beyond my profile space allowed and had to forcequit some applications (not sure exactly which one caused it). Can anyone help me in bringing my Transh icon back04:47
BluesKajteufel_, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/04:47
JucatoKamesh: this is #kubuntu...04:48
teufel_cant i use sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:48
alakhiaany way I can setup a network mount point so I can copy and move across linux machines?04:49
Jucatoteufel_: sure you can04:49
Jucato!info mozilla-mplayer | teufel_04:49
ubotuteufel_: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB04:49
bonbonthejonkhirr: no, dapper is fine to use04:49
Jucatoteufel_: but you need to enable multiverse04:49
geniiKamesh: centos <> kubuntu04:49
teufel_cool i set up kubuntu last night but im not to sure about everything04:49
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alakhiaanyone?04:50
teufel_my flash audio is out of sync in konqueror04:50
KameshI was wondering.. this could be a kde problem and people in here might help.. I have tried in #kde, #centos and #kde-devel. No one replied to my question expect in #kde04:50
geniiKamesh It's more a generic KDE issue04:50
BluesKaj!network04:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:50
JucatoKamesh: and you will definitely not be able to get an answer here... Kubuntu is using KDE 3.5.x04:50
alakhia!nfs04:51
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.04:51
BluesKaj!LAN04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
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KameshThanks Jucato, genii. I will wait for a while in kde and centos04:51
Cobra_BubblesA bit lost here04:51
JucatoKamesh: your best bet would really be centos, though04:51
genii!ask | Cobra_Bubbles04:52
ubotuCobra_Bubbles: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:52
Cobra_Bubblesokay so... Skype is distributed in a Debian package, which means I need GNOME to install it?04:52
teufel_ok when i fullscreen the video its still small04:52
alakhiaah, the nfs page looks good ... :)04:52
alakhiathat's what I needed.04:52
teufel_like it fullscreen but keeps the resolution and part of the video shows up at the top left04:52
alakhiathanks, guys04:52
geniiCobra_Bubbles: No, ubuntu is a debian derivitaive. It used .deb packaging04:52
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BluesKajno Cobra_Bubbles it'll install even if you use kde04:53
geniiCobra_Bubbles: To install some deb file not from a repository, try using from a konsole:  sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>04:54
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Cobra_Bubblesthanks04:54
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BluesKajhey genii , how goes it ?04:55
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teufel_so what does the video output option do in the mplayer mozilla plugin04:55
chinoi installed the mozilla flash thing and youtube is telling me i need a newer version04:55
geniiBluesKaj Goes alrite :) Sorta generally ill lately but I think it's some stomach flu goin round. Otherwise fine04:56
BluesKajbummer about the stomach thing04:56
Knightlustchino: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?04:56
SolidSourcechino: are you using AMD64 version of kubuntu?04:56
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chinoSolidSource:  no04:56
chinolibflash-mozplugin04:57
teufel_cant get the mplayer to fullscreen videos04:57
petecan somebody tell me if there is a way to make the font collor in the konsole inverse of the background?04:57
teufel_mplayer plugin for mozilla04:57
Knightlustbecause some oss flash derivatives spits out that error04:57
SolidSourcechino: then install flashplugin-nonfree as knightlust said04:57
pete(for when using a transparent background)04:57
BluesKajgenii, I installed upstart 3.7 upgrade, but now i get an fstab error when installing other pkgs , should i just ignore it ?04:58
chinoyea i installed that first04:58
Skullerpete: how to use a transparent background?04:58
Knightlustpete: xterm?04:58
chinoand when i ran it04:58
peteknightlust, no in konsole04:58
SolidSourcechino: you may need to copy the plugin file to your "~/,mozilla/plugins04:58
geniiBluesKaj: I'm not acquainted much with it, so couldn't give you any definitive answer on that04:58
Knightlustno i mean, xterm uses transparent background04:58
chinojohn@john-desktop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin04:58
chinoautomatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes04:58
Jucatopete: Settings -> COnfigure Konsole -> Schema tab?04:59
Knightlusthmm, havent tried a transparent background in konsole04:59
Knightlusthehehe04:59
peteskuller - i am using the transparent background but the text is hard to read, i want to make the font color inverse of whatever my background is if possible04:59
Knightlusthmmm, i gave out a bad advise04:59
BluesKajok genii, it doesn't seem to be blocking any installs , i just notice it in the terminal.04:59
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SolidSourcechino: go into firefox and do About:plugins and if its says version 9 for flash, your good05:00
peteahh i guess the green tint thingy will suffice for now :/05:00
geniiBluesKaj Well, if you pastebin the error I'll examine it if you like05:00
petethanks peeps.05:00
chinoi just looked in the source and im successfully downloading the file05:00
Skullerpete: sorry i cant help you on your problem...i was just asking you if you could tell me how to make the terminal have a transparent backg05:00
peteskuller, for sure, just go to Settings -> Schema05:01
JucatoSkuller: Schema settings in Konsole05:01
Skullerthanx pete05:01
Knightlustchino: good luck, hope that works with youtube05:01
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JucatoSkuller: you can fine tune the schema or create your own in Settings -> Configure Konsole -> Schema tab05:01
chinoKnightlust:  thats what i was saying...05:01
jake_pete: how to install themes on kde?05:01
chinowhy doesn't it ?05:02
Knightlustchino: hold on, you're saying that it's downloading but not installing?05:02
chinoKnightlust:  no it didn't work... so i looked in the source got the url and downloaded and installed it my seelf05:02
petejake_: im not that great on linux man so it would be hard for me to tell you, i think it involves a lot of compiling and downloading random packages tho05:02
Knightlusthehehe, nice workaround05:02
BluesKajgenii, it's only one line and the last " 0" in it is in red :  /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 <--- this one05:02
Jucato!changethemes | jake_05:02
ubotujake_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:02
jake_thanx05:03
chinoKnightlust:  but youtube still doesn't work05:03
Knightlustchino: would you mind trying other browsers05:04
SkullerJucato: thanx...it looks awesome now05:04
Knightlustjust in case, we need to find out if it's a problem with flash-plugin or your current browser05:04
chinoum05:04
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JucatoSkuller: no problem :)05:04
chinohow do i install it to konquere ?05:04
Jucatoflash problems?05:04
Knightlustif flashplugin-nonfree is already installed, then it should work without a hitch in konqueror05:05
chinocant i just embed gstreamer ?05:05
geniiBluesKaj: Ah, OK... not much worries there then. The last 2 numbers in fstab are for dump and fsck options05:05
SolidSourcechino: just check about:plugins in firefox, and if its not there then its just as simple as copying a file05:05
geniiBluesKaj: Zero means no checking05:05
BluesKajok thx genii , appreciate you looking :)05:06
chinoKnightlust: flashplugin-nonfree just installs "an installer" which you have to run by your self05:06
Jucatochino: um.. did you install firefox from the repositories?05:06
chinoSolidSource:  its there man05:06
chinoJucato:  yea05:06
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Jucatochino: er no.. the flashplugin-nonfree package automatically runs the installer (you have to use apt though)05:06
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SolidSourcechino: ok...05:06
Knightlustbrb: appointment with the dentist, be back in 30mins05:06
chinoJucato:  yea but the installer failed05:06
Jucatochino: what did you use? Adept?05:07
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Stalk3ranyone using yahoo messenger in kubuntu dapper drake?05:07
SkullerKnightlust: get some sugar free candies fer me...avent eaten some in ages...:)05:07
Jucatoer.. need lunch...05:07
SkullerStalk3r: i dint know we could do that05:07
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BluesKajwell, getting late for geezers ...nite all05:08
khirrhow can i configure mi amarok to can listen mp3 files?05:08
Stalk3rSkuller: I'm not too sure we can, I have been able to apt-get or download all but one lib from repositories or debian05:08
Skuller!mp3 | khirr05:08
ubotukhirr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:08
khirrthnx05:08
Stalk3rI was mostly curious if anyone else had been successful05:09
SolidSourcechino: if the flashplugin install failed...did you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in order to attempt to fix?05:09
chinoand firefox keeps crashing05:09
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SkullerStalk3r: you mean the 'yahoo messenger' or just an IM software with its protocol capabilities?05:09
Stalk3rSkuller: I mean the yahoo messenger05:09
SkullerStalk3r: does it have the phone-out voice capabilities?05:10
Stalk3rthere's a version for debian, which I thought would be close enpugh to work but there are dependency problems I didn't forsee.05:10
Skullerlike the mzoft version05:10
SolidSourcestalk3r: yahoo messenger doesn't work too well or at all in (k)ubuntu05:10
chinokonqueror says the same thing.... old version of flash05:10
Stalk3rSkuller: no05:11
Stalk3rSolidSource: I'm noticing that05:11
SolidSourcestalk3r: that deb file you have is for the actual Debian05:11
SkullerYahoo Messenger's Cheap VOIP capabilities are the ONLY reason i have to switch to xp once in a while05:11
SolidSourcechino: what version of kubuntu are you running?05:11
chinoSkuller:  just use voipbuster.com and use your own voip client05:11
Stalk3rI wonder if I took a working installation from my wife's box and ran it under wine, would that do it?05:11
chinothe new cd 10.605:11
Skullerchino: ok i'll check it out...thanx05:12
chinowhy do you need yahoo messenger ?05:12
chinojust use gaim.05:12
Stalk3rprobably too many lib dependencies there, too05:12
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SolidSourcegaim isn't any better than kopete05:12
Stalk3rI was using kopete but I hate it05:12
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Stalk3rit's not configurable enough and navigation is impossible, at best05:13
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SolidSourcechino: what version of kubuntu are you using, cause some things aren't in the dapper repos if thats what you are using05:13
Stalk3rand I'd already heard that gaim wasn't any better.05:13
chinoSolidSource:  10.605:13
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Stalk3r10.6, is that edgy?05:14
SolidSourcechino: what are talking about...the latest kubuntu is 6.105:14
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teufel_i have been trying to fix this flash audio sync and im running out of ideas it worked yesterday then i reainstall kubuntu today and now it glitches05:14
orange_YES! I got macromedia flash 8 working on kubuntu05:14
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chinoDownload Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy)05:14
chinoi had it backwards....05:15
chino10.605:15
Stalk3rhmm, I'm using flash 905:15
chino6.1005:15
chinowhere do you get that ! ?05:15
SolidSourceorange_: flash 9 is out05:15
teufel_i tried to install to 905:15
teufel_but it says im still using 705:15
orange_Stalk3r: Flash Professional 8...05:15
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SolidSource!source-o-matic > chino05:15
leafwwhat command/script is the System / Quit... / Suspend issuing? I would like to call it from the command line.05:15
orange_not Flash Player05:15
Stalk3rtry to watch videos on yahoo and follow the link and directions.05:15
chinoi got my sources up!05:15
SolidSourcechino: update your sources.list so can have access to everything05:15
Stalk3rorange_: ahhh, nice05:15
skittleshello05:16
chinounles your talking about that one 3rd party one made by some guy05:16
teufel_damn05:16
skittlesjust started using UBUNTU05:16
orange_use kubuntu05:16
Skullerchino: can you clear me on the voip buster and its "use your own voip' capabilities?05:16
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chinoSkuller:  you have been cleared05:16
SolidSourcechino: no, the backports are not used by default, and there are extra repos supplied by the source-o-matic05:17
chinowhats bakports ?05:17
chino!source-o-matic > chino05:17
Stalk3roh, you have to enable the multiverse backports05:17
Skullerchino: thanx...now can you explain me more on the voip buster's "use your own voip" capabilities?05:17
skittlescan i switch to Kubuntu with all the things i already have installed like Cedega with reinstalling it all?05:17
chinowtf is all this complicated stuff05:17
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SolidSourceskitties: you can just install KDE onto ubuntu05:17
chinoSkuller:  there is nothing else to explain05:18
skittlesmmmmm interesting tks Solid05:18
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Stalk3rchino:  use adept, click file|manage repositories and then uncomment all the repository addresses you find.05:18
SolidSourcechino: its not complicated, its just updating a file05:18
skittleswhats different bout kubuntu?05:18
Stalk3rskittles: KDE05:18
skittleshuh what is KDE?05:18
Skullerchino: as far as i can understand...voipbuster is a voip client on its own and has its own rates....05:18
SolidSourcestalk3r: one problem with that is, the kubuntu repos are not there05:18
SolidSourcestalk3r by default05:19
Skuller!kde | skittles05:19
ubotuskittles: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:19
Stalk3rskittles: Killer Desktop Environment05:19
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skittlesoh i see tks05:19
bill57785does Dapper Drake have cabextract already?  how can I check?05:19
Stalk3r!repositories | Stalk3r05:19
chinoSkuller:  its free around half the world and you can use any voip client you want to connect to voip buster05:20
skittlescan you give me the place to download kubuntu? plz05:20
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Stalk3rhmm05:21
Bertowhat packages provide vi and vim?  My vi works terribly with my keyboard, but vim is perfect.  i'd like to remove vi05:21
c0nv1ctanyone here use superkaramba?05:22
genii!vim05:22
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code05:22
Skullerchino: oh...well unfortunately that 'half the world' doesnt include india....and i wanted to be able to use voip buster to use my yahoo messenger voip out rates n capabilities....05:22
Skullerthnx fer da info tho05:22
genii!info vim | Berto05:22
SolidSourcec0nc1ct: kind of, what ya need?05:22
ubotuberto: vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 1420 kB05:22
geniiBerto so just "vim" as packagename05:22
c0nv1ctSolidSource: i just need to know where it puts themes i download from "Get New Stuff"05:22
Bertogen2, yes, but what package for vi?  i like vim, want to do a remove on vi05:22
c0nv1ctSolidSource: cuz it doesnt go in ~/.Karamba05:23
Bertogenii, oops that was to you05:23
Bertogenii, vi is not a packagename... how do i find out in general what package Executable_Name belongs to?05:23
Stalk3rwhy remove vi?05:24
leafwwhat command/script is the System / Quit... / Suspend issuing? I would like to call it from the command line.05:24
geniiBerto vim needs vi as beckend so it is more or less integrated. The vi package is a subset. You cannot remove it without vim failing05:24
skittleswith kubuntu can you use mic/cam/printer?05:24
Bertogenii, weird.  vi not working though, vim works great.05:24
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Stalk3rleafw: sudo shutdown05:24
Bertogenii, the problem is that when i use vi, the up and down arrows enter in letters B and C!!05:25
Stalk3rberto vim is installed by default in dapper, just try calling it?05:25
skittlesalso have urs colors for txttyping?05:25
geniiBerto Those keys have not been remapped for some reason?05:25
Stalk3rooh, good call05:25
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BertoStalk3r, yeah, i'm using vim.  From mandrake i'm used to calling the vi executable05:25
Stalk3rget used to adding the m05:26
BertoStalk3r, so either i get used to actually typing "vim" at command line, or do a symlink05:26
Bertohahaha05:26
max__how do i change the grub boot order?05:26
SolidSourcec0nc1ct: are you sure: I find mine in ~/.superkaramba05:26
BertoStalk3r, do you know how hard of a habit that will be to break!05:26
Stalk3rsymlink is another good idea05:26
Stalk3ryou answered your own workaround, get on it05:26
skittlestks 4 ur help <room> L8trz05:26
Stalk3r;)05:26
Stalk3rbye skittles05:26
BertoStalk3r, yeh thanks... was worried about symlinkiing to vim from vi if vim REQUIRES vi... didn't want to destroy05:27
SolidSourcechino: get the sources.list updated?05:27
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chinoyes...05:28
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chinoi tried every single flash package05:28
chinothey all say the same thing when i go to youtube05:28
Stalk3ryoutube?05:28
Stalk3rlol05:28
Stalk3ryou useing firefox?05:28
chinoyes05:28
bordyAnyone able to hel pme with a World of Warcraft Installation issue?05:28
SolidSourcechino: and when you go into about:plugins it says flash plugin 9?05:28
chinoi said no05:28
Stalk3rsee the little popup blocker message at the top that says missing plugin?05:29
chinoStalk3r:  dont be funny05:29
chinoSolidSource:  it does not say 905:29
Stalk3rI'm amusing myself05:29
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geniiStalk3r: :)05:29
Musashidenwhats the command to configure Xorg?05:29
bill57785ok05:29
Stalk3ranyway, you have to add a symlink in your firefox file to where you installed the plugin05:29
chino0.4.1205:29
bill57785I'm sure I sound like a n00b05:29
bill57785but I have no idea where to look, and I need to know05:30
SolidSourcechino: and when you check what version of flashplugin-nonfree is intalled (trhough adept) what does it say?05:30
bill57785I downloaded a .deb file...now how do I install it?05:30
Stalk3r!dpkg05:30
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.05:30
jake_guys what's the linux version of morpheus or kazaa of windows?05:30
Stalk3r!dpkg bill5778505:30
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ubotudpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB05:30
daskreech!apt05:30
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:30
chino7.0.6.805:30
Stalk3rjake_: torrenty05:30
Stalk3rjake_: torrent05:30
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Musashidenanybody?05:31
bordyAnyone able to help with Warcraft?05:31
bill57785ok, but what line do I type in the shell? or what program do I open?05:31
SolidSourcechino: ok...did yo update sources.list with the things provided by source-o-matic?05:31
Stalk3rbill57785: dpkg -i <filename>05:32
geniibill57785: sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>      if you are in the directory containing the file05:32
chinoSolidSource:  yes you asked me that 3 times05:32
Stalk3roh yeah, I always forget sudo05:32
Stalk3rlol05:32
geniibill57785: If not in same dir use full pathname05:32
jake_Stalk3r: but thats a torrent downloader, i downloaded amule but its so hard to use05:32
SolidSourcechino: just making because others were saying things05:32
SolidSourcechino: then run in konsole "sudo apt-get update"05:32
Musashidenwhat is the command to reconfigure X? i know is something like Xorg-Xserver configure or something like that. anyone?05:32
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chinohang on i didn't hit update though05:32
bill57785ok, thank you very much....I'm still new to linux and I rarely get an answer out of anyone...it makes it hard to learn05:33
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Stalk3rMusashiden: I use the graphical config app05:33
geniiMusashiden: in console, it's  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:33
Musashidenthank you05:33
chinooh thank god it says 905:33
Stalk3rwtg chino05:33
chinowell thats the installer package05:33
chinolets see what happens05:34
Stalk3rso who has a messenger they'd like to recommend to someone that doesn't want to use kopete or gaim?05:34
SolidSourcechino: ok there you go....now if it installs and still doesn't work, just copy everything in "/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins" to "~/.mozilla/plugins05:34
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geniiStalk3r: What protocols are required?05:35
chinoyea its working05:35
chinook so i installed mplayer for moz plugin should that just work too ?05:35
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Stalk3rami & yahoo are all I need, I use Konversation for IRC and Kontact for everything else05:36
Stalk3raim*05:36
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SolidSourcechino: yeah, you may need to select your outputs in the config when you play your first clip in firefox05:36
chinoits stupposed to embed it05:36
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genii!everybuddy05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about everybuddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
geniiBah05:36
Stalk3rheh05:36
geniiStalk3r: Anyhow, it is an open-source option that does quite a few protocols05:37
SolidSourcechino: yes but there are more than 1 engine for playing files, sometimes it doesn't automatically select one05:37
Stalk3reverybuddy?05:37
chinojust to let you guys know the wirless setup tools are messed up man ...05:37
SolidSourcechin: so when playing a clip, right click >> configure05:37
Dr_willisi sort of like gaim05:37
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Dr_willis:)05:37
chinoi had a hell of a time learning their bugs05:37
geniiYes, found the package which contains it now, ayttm05:38
genii!ayttm05:38
Dr_willisThe state of Wireless Networking in general.. is very messed up.05:38
ubotuayttm: Universal Instant Messaging Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6+34-1 (edgy), package size 1801 kB, installed size 4964 kB05:38
SolidSourcechino: wireless doesn't really work yet...not all the time at least05:38
chinoyea but the menu... it self... was broken05:38
Dr_williswhich menu where?05:38
chinolet me explain05:38
Stalk3rgenii: ty05:38
geniiStalk3r: np05:38
Dr_willisit pays on irc, to be verbose, yet concise in describing your  issues. :)05:39
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Cobra-BubblesMy komyootor no work nao! How do I shot web?05:39
chinoif i click on the kde system settings button and go to networking and then click administration mode it turns all grayed out and i cant see no buttons within the red border.... so i had to use 'sudo' to run systemsettings.... then once in there it doens't let you remove a network key that is in allready... you have to close it and reload it... then if you put hexidecimal... after it saves it still says ascii even though its really usin05:40
SolidSourcecobra-bubbles: what?05:40
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kouran_how do i add a program to the k menu?05:40
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SolidSourcecobra-bubbles: you talking about konqueror?05:40
kouran_i downaloaded and installed bluej java ide and it can only be launched from the terminal..05:41
Dr_williswow ayttm  is sort of UGLY.. but it works..05:41
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johnnydanyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to an xp host?05:41
Dr_willischino,  try 'maxamizing' that window.. there maybe some 'administrator mode' buttons that are hidden at the bottom. (its a bit of a bug that pops up at times)05:41
Dr_willischino,  or are you saying thees NO buttons anywhere?05:42
Dr_willisthe KDE control-center-settings stuff is undergoing work all the time. I hear with kde4 its supposed to be much improved.05:42
geniiDr_willis: Yeah I remember it's interface was not nice but it worked fine for me on MSN and ICQ05:42
Dr_willisgenii,  yea.. 'not nice' the fonts are downright.. well.. nasty. :) heh05:43
chinoDr_willis:  he has a small screen....................05:43
chinoDr_willis:  thats what i just said if you click on administration mode it gets the red border and everything inside of the red border has turned into a gtk gray colored plane with no buttons05:44
Dr_willisi wonder what that Nokia 880 is using. I think it has a port of Gaim to it.05:44
Dr_willischino,  ive totally given up on wireless under windows and linux.. You dont want toknow the fighting ive had to do with some windows machines the last few months. ;)05:44
chinoum05:44
chinoi hope your not trying to think im a windows user05:45
SolidSourceDr_willis: wireless is easy on some other distros05:45
johnnydanyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to a xp host?05:45
chinoim telling you guys so you can know... because your probably develoeprs some of you05:45
Dr_willisSolidSource,  i find wireless being 'easy' can be a rather big crap shoot. :)05:45
chinoSolidSource:  what other distros05:45
Dr_williswilress seems to be a lot easier.. depending on what drivers the wireless cards are using.05:46
Cobra-Bubbleshrm05:46
chinook ok ok05:46
Cobra-BubblesDoes Skype support Webcams in the Debian build?/05:46
chinomy point was not "wireless support in linux"05:46
SolidSourceDr_willis: well, I haven't had problems in windows with wireless (except making sure the security settings are matched with router and that I am not using windows to manage wireless)05:46
chinomy point was "kubuntu gui programs are on crack"05:46
geniiDr_willis: Do you know what chipset the Nokia uses? I'm interested in ARM processing for instance05:46
chino"fyi"05:46
SolidSourcechino: fedora and SuSE have been the best when it comes to wireless from my experience05:46
chinoscary anything rpm based makes me shit05:47
Dr_willisSolidSource,  yea. you bring up an interesting point.. why shouldent one use windows to manage the wirless.. vs the cards own (sometimes very silly) controls.. but we dont want to slap on windows too much.05:47
Stalk3rmy brother likes gentoo and I think he's wireless05:47
Dr_willisare not the 'ra' chipset wilress cards supposed to have fully gpl'd drivers?  i even hear of issues with them, :(05:48
Dr_willisi dont even want to get started on every wireless manafacturer adding new gimmics to their cards and otehr gizmos that seem to conflict with others, or just confuse people.05:48
daskreechbordy: sup?05:48
SolidSourceDr_willis: windows has too many restrictions to custom settings...and its way to clumsy, not to mention it doesn't always list all the wireless netowrks in the area. Also, the cards specific program is designed to work better with the card itself05:48
Dr_willisand really dont get me started on the lame wireless on the Nintendo DS. :)05:48
Cobra-BubblesDr_willis: Another reason I switched from Windows... Nero, IE, Google, and Yahoo loved to fight over which one was my Operating System05:49
daskreechStalk3r: Miranda05:49
Dr_willisSolidSource,  yea. ive noticed a few of that.. ive also noticed that  way to many wireless cards' interface programs.. toss out  'gui design school fundamentls' and have some really.... weird interfaces at times.. heh..05:49
Cobra-BubblesDS has wifi upgrade hacks05:49
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  thats good to hear..05:49
Dr_willisYahoo Seems to like to sneak in.. Google is slowly creeping in like the blob... :)05:50
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Dr_willisNERO - is just growing to big. heh.05:50
SolidSourceDr_willis: MSI program has the best and easiest05:50
manchicken!offtopic05:50
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:50
manchicken:)05:50
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Dr_willisSolidSource,  you find msi wireless cards work better under linux?05:50
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Dr_willisI tend to stick with Linksys on the few wireless thangs i have.   since they seem to work together better.05:51
Cobra-BubblesBetter than Broadcom05:51
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SolidSourceDr_willis: haven't tested MSI and linux (though I could easily do it, but I have had few problems with Intel cards (in Fedora and SuSE at least)05:52
johnnyd anyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to an xp host?05:52
Dr_willisMy laptop has broadcom.. i actually got wireless working with it the other day under ubuntu.05:52
bordydaskreech: I am havin some trouble... i followed the instructions in the ubuntu community help, and i copied my WoW Files from the windows partition... but I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9976/05:52
Dr_willisjohnnyd,  running ubuntu 6.10 in vmware under windows xp?05:52
johnnydyes05:52
geniiOrinoco used to be awesome05:53
peanutbI think it depends on the card model, i still havent gotten my linksys working. I just bought a cheap atheros based card.05:53
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Dr_willisjohnnyd,  samba should let the 2 see shares and so forth... same as if there were 2 machines.05:53
SolidSourcepeanutb: external cards never work as well as internal05:53
Dr_willisjohnnyd,  winscp is good for gettting files around also using ssh.05:53
SolidSourcepeanutb: and linksys is crap anyway05:53
Dr_willisjohnnyd,  assuming you got the network settings for the vmware machine set right that is...05:53
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peanutbSolidSource, Its hard enough getting linksys cards to work in windows, Linux is a whole different story.05:54
Cobra-Bubblesshame05:55
Cobra-BubblesLinksys routers are fantastic05:55
johnnydI can see the "neighborhood" and the "xp" machine but clicking on the icon results in the xp samba sharr not existing05:55
SolidSourcepeanutb: again Linksys all around sucks05:55
Dr_willisof course ive seen companies have identically named cards with different 'versions' that use entirely different chipsets. :()05:55
SolidSourcecobra-bubbles: Belkin and D-link absolutely DESTROY linksys05:55
chinokfrb is nto working05:56
Dr_willisheh - i got a few dlink network cards. (normal wired)  really havent used any enoggh to come to any conclusions. they all seem to work well.05:56
erichey how can i make my screen resolution smaller...i know it goes smaller but its not listed05:56
Cobra-Bubblesplease... D-Link is a poor man's Linksys05:56
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Dr_willis!info  krandrtray05:57
ubotuPackage krandrtray does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:57
Dr_willishmm05:57
Dr_willis!find  krandrtray05:57
ubotuFile krandrtray found in kcontrol, kde4base, kdebase-dbg05:57
SolidSourceDr_willis: I went through 3 Linksys routers and tested several Belkin, before settling on my D-link gaming router for its features05:57
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holehow can i edit grub from within gnome05:57
holegrub menu i measn05:57
Dr_willisSolidSource,  i just got a little mini-linksys router. :) was only $30 does what i need.. i guess it would be nice to have more controll. but so far this thing has been set it and forget it.05:58
Dr_willis!grub05:58
holemeasn-s=mean05:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:58
SolidSourcecobra-bubbles: linksys is unstable and barely works.05:58
Dr_willishole,  you could always go hardkore and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file (BACK IT UP FIRST!)05:58
holeno i just have 3 kernel choices so i want to take 2 of emoff05:59
Dr_willishole,  thats trivial. :)05:59
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hole??05:59
Dr_willishole,  one setting in that file dictates the # of kernels to show.. edit that line. then rerun 'sudo update-grub'05:59
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holeoh and one more thing what are ethernet switches used for06:00
Dr_willis# alternative=false               - Hides the 'alternate' boot entrys.  and        # howmany=all   - dictates the # of entrys to show.06:00
dystopianraywhat happened to the english hyphenation dictionaries for openoffice ?06:00
holeis it like a hub?06:00
Dr_willisNote that you Leave those # comments in there.. update-grub uses them.06:00
Dr_willisa switch is  'smarter' then a hub. I belive06:01
Dr_willisless packet colision and so forth.. more efficneit06:01
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holedoes that mean it works like a hub?06:01
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Dr_willisit is a smarter hub.06:01
Dr_willis:)06:01
Dr_willisI guess is the proper term?06:01
Dr_willisI aint even seen hubs in stores lately.06:01
holeok coool so i can play lan quake1,2,306:02
Dr_willisperhaps i juat havent noticed.06:02
skittleshi06:02
holeand starcraft06:02
Dr_willisa switch will give better gameplay/pings/lesslag then a hub.06:02
SolidSourceDr_willis: err...you just reminded me I need to get another switch to expand my network06:02
holeawesome06:02
skittlesi play wow and everquest106:02
Dr_willisSolidSource,  heh - slowly upgrading to gigabit here.06:02
SolidSourceDr_willis: already there..just ran out of ports06:02
Dr_willisSolidSource,  heh. Yep.  another reson wireless seems such a step backwards. :()06:03
skittleshow do  i set my colors for chat like as in typing words, ect.06:03
Dr_willisskittles,  colors? where?06:03
SolidSourceDr_willis: hate using wireless....working in bursts of info instead of a constant stream sucks06:04
skittlesnot sure dr.willis, i want to know how06:04
holeok dr_willis is there any way i can get you to ssh in to my pc and fis that i am really noid about editing that file06:04
bill57785why when I type "svn cat https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hackndev/linux4palm/tools/unpdb.py > unpdb.py" does it tell me "bash: svn: command not found"?06:04
Dr_willisskittles,  irc colors are dictated by the irc client. WE dont see your colors.. our clients treat differnt messages/things differntly06:04
Dr_willishole,  not really its 1 am here..06:04
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Dr_willishole,  back the thing up.. use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit 2 lines.06:04
skittleswell i have boring BLACK colors for my typing06:04
Dr_willishole,  or if you are that scared.. dont mess with it..06:05
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holei dont know what to put instead06:05
Dr_willisskittles,  black where? :) thers seveal dozen irc clients out...06:05
bill57785anyone?06:05
Cobra-BubblesNobody answered me :-p06:05
holecan i name a specific kernel?06:05
skittlesoh never mind...i'll just sit and read what every1 says06:05
Dr_willishole,  the # of entrys to show.. ie: 1 or 2.. and have it hide the alternatve entrys if you really want to slim it down.06:05
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: what was the question?06:05
Cobra-BubblesJust this.. Does Skype support webcam streams in Linux??06:06
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Dr_willisskittles,  we will NOT see your text as black, or whatever YOU set them to be. this is not yahoomessenger where every one uses idiotic fonts.colors and spam the channel06:06
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: not yet06:06
holeso if theres 3 and i put 1 which 1 is it going to show06:06
Dr_willisskittles,  i see all the text in nice clean white text on a black background.06:06
Cobra-BubblesHrm... Figures there'd be one single short-coming06:06
holethe most recent?06:06
skittlesi have a white background with blk txt06:06
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skittlesso very boring :(06:07
Dr_willishole,  you rerun 'sudo update-grub' and it rewrites the menu.lst and will show the most recent one. Makes sence eh?06:07
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Dr_willisskittles,  un huh.. sure...06:07
holeoooh ok06:07
Dr_willisskittles,  set your irc client up differently.. we wont see any differance. :)06:07
skittlesoic now dr.willis calling me a lier now tks06:07
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Cobra-BubblesK... What do I need to emulate Windows XP, or think a Dual-Boot setup would work better?06:08
Dr_willisskittles,  about what?  boaring text? gesh.. what next.. you want web cams in here also? :)06:08
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: most video conferencing requires seperate application, kopete has just barely started doing video06:08
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  vmware can handle xp i hear..06:08
holewhat was the name of that file again?06:08
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: VMware is best06:08
geniiCobra-Bubbles: dual-boot is beetr than trying to run XP under linux06:08
Dr_willis!grub06:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:08
KnightlustCobra_Bubbles: Xen if you want virtualization, but i strongly suggest a dual-boot, unless you have a pretty good hardware06:08
Dr_willishole,  /boot/grub/menu.lst (back it up!)06:09
Knightlustand i mean $3000 +++ hardware06:09
skittlesDR.WILLIS i SAID BLK TXT is Boring06:09
holek06:09
bill57785 why when I type "svn cat https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hackndev/linux4palm/tools/unpdb.py > unpdb.py" does it tell me "bash: svn: command not found"?06:09
Dr_willisskittles,  you perfer green?06:09
Dr_willis:)06:09
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skittleswow i come in this room to GET some HELP, then dr.willis gives me a hard time, tks, dr.willis06:10
geniibill57785: install the svn client. You can find one by sudo apt-cache search svn|grep client06:10
Cobra-Bubbleshrm06:10
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petehey im just curious - what do you guys use to rip flash videos off of sites like youtube?06:10
bill57785ok06:10
Cobra-BubblesI wonder if doing a dual-boot would be highly difficult06:10
Dr_willisskittles,   you asked a question? i must of missed it.. i though you where just chatting.06:10
SolidSourceskittles: thats just being tedious, what difference does the color of the text make?06:10
Knightlustpete: video downloader extension for firefox06:10
skittlesand i have ony have had UBUNTU installed less than a WK06:10
geniibill57785: Actually it looks like you put 2 commands in that line. svn cat <-- both commands06:10
chinowhats a safe upgrade ?06:10
Knightlustchino, how was it?06:11
chinowhat ?06:11
Knightlusti mean, youtube06:11
bill57785lol06:11
bill57785well I've tried svn before anyways06:11
peteknightlust-  ty06:11
bill57785on other things06:11
Dr_willisskittles,  i was explainign to you that Unlike the stuff you see in some IM clients. your fonts wont affect us.  SOme people seem to think that irc works just like YahooMessenger.06:11
Knightlustdid it work?06:11
petetalking to me?06:11
bill57785and it didn't work...so I'll go ahead and install this06:11
Cobra-BubblesNot worth the trouble. I'll jsut emulate Windows XP06:11
chinoKnightlust:  what work ?06:11
skittlesi know thast drwillis duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this isn't yahoo06:12
SolidSourcechino: safe upgrade may hold certain packages back in order to prevent broken packages06:12
Cobra-BubblesI've got 2.1 Gigahertz and a gigabyte of RAM, I think I cna handle it06:12
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  you do have a spare XP serial #?06:12
Knightlustchino: your flash plugin on youtube06:12
chinoys06:12
chinowhere have you been ?06:12
chinolol06:12
Cobra-BubblesI've got one sitting on the bottom of a torn-up old laptop, but it's faded06:12
Knightlustchino: dentist appointment. congratulations06:12
Cobra-BubblesI could always use more06:12
geniiCobra-Bubbles: Even on a system like that, it will pretty much choke it. You need something more like a quadcore for it to be almost bearable06:12
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  you may need to activate the Emulated XP machine.. and using the same serial # on vmware and a running machine can cuse issues.06:12
SolidSourcegenii: no you don't06:13
Cobra-BubblesYeah. I coudl definately use some XP keyage06:13
bill57785ok06:13
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  you may want to try WIndowsME or Windows98/SE first.06:13
MinatakuHeya, genii :D06:13
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  depending on what tasks you are wanting to do with it06:13
bill57785I ran the command you gave me, and it just went to another command line after I entered my password06:13
skittleswindows Me has too many problems i should know just got rid of it06:13
geniiSolidSource: Well, any cpu so far single core I found it horrible under at least 3.206:13
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: you may try just using WINE or Crossover to run windows apps in linux06:14
geniiMinataku: Heys06:14
erichow do I set up my other hd to mount automatically?06:14
Dr_williswindowsME has all the drivers for a Vmware Machine included. whichmakes it better for use under vmware then 98 or SE.06:14
Minatakugenii: Any news on my free crap? XD06:14
Cobra-Bubbleshrm... If WINE does Skype properly I'll be set.06:14
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SolidSourcegenii: I use VMware on a 2.3Ghtz AMD64 X2 and a gig of RAM no problem06:14
MinatakuSkype has a native version06:14
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Cobra-BubblesMost of what I was running in Windows was open-source, which was funny06:14
VR_but it looks terrible :(06:14
Cobra-BubblesMinataku: Without webcam support06:14
teufel_can someone help me for a min06:14
skittleslet see now06:14
KnightlustCobra-Bubbles: Skype works well in Linux, no need to use WINE or VMWare06:15
bill57785did anyone read my message?06:15
Knightlustohhh, webcam06:15
SolidSourceMinataku: skype in linux doesn't have video support like many other things06:15
skittlesand now....06:15
teufel_i need help installing a file .tar.bz206:15
geniiSolidSource Ah, vmware is not so bad. I meant for him to run some emulation UNDER linux06:15
Knightlustwell actually my webcam works in linux, it's a genius videoexpress v206:15
Dr_willisI want to know when did all the messaging and voice chat stuff suddendly HAVE to have video also? :)06:15
Knightlustand it works well on both skype and kopete06:15
bill57785anyone?06:15
MinatakuI can't stand any of those IM things06:15
Dr_willisteufel_,  and whats this .tar.gz file supposed to be?06:15
MinatakuDr_willis: It's called featuritis06:15
Cobra-BubblesLook I know this really hot girl and she likes to strip for me, Webcam support is a MUST06:16
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SolidSourcegenii: well I didn't see anyone saying that...thought all agreed on VMware or similar06:16
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  you been sleeping at the keyboard again? :)06:16
KnightlustCobra-Bubbles: understood06:16
Cobra-Bubblesyup06:16
MinatakuFeatures go up, stability goes down, people don't care because they're all used to Windows06:16
Dr_willisCobra-Bubbles,  i bet shes an FBI agent! :)06:16
Knightlusthehehe06:16
bill57785well if anyone cares, this is what I'm trying to do: http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS06:16
Cobra-BubblesNah. I've known her since she was 17 and she's like 22 now.06:16
KnightlustCobra-Bubbles: what's your webcam06:16
bill57785only to a compact flash card06:16
teufel_someone help me with install a program that uses tar.bz2 ext06:16
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Cobra-BubblesI don't own a webcam06:16
bill57785and I'm still not getting svn to install06:16
Knightlustcoz I've tried 2 webcams and it just works on my system06:16
Dr_williswhats scarier - the fact she wants strip, or the fact she actualy likes you. :)06:16
Knightlustohh, you want to view webcam06:17
Cobra-BubblesProbably the second06:17
teufel_someone help me with install a program that uses tar.bz2 ext06:17
Knightlustshould work.. mine06:17
Dr_willisteufel_,  theres a dozen + ways stuff like that can be installed.. whats the program. and have you checked its homepage/install docs yet?06:17
Jucatoteufel_: what program is it? have you tried searching the repositories first?06:17
teufel_yeah06:17
SolidSourceteufel_: its already installed (ARK)...its just a compressed file like ZIP06:17
Knightlust*mine's working without a hitch, i can see webcams06:17
teufel_i tried ark06:17
GeorgeMoneyHello, I saw i had python default installed in my kubuntu, but really had no use for it, so I did an apt-get remove python. This also removed all my adept stuff for some reason. Is there any way i can get all my adept programs back without python (but if they really need python, that's fine) but i just want them back...06:17
Dr_willisI perfer the shell and 'unp'06:18
teufel_like its a game06:18
Dr_willis!info unp06:18
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB06:18
peanutbteufel_, what program?06:18
Dr_willispeanutb,  :) thats 5 times now weve asked. heh06:18
teufel_postal206:18
Jucatoteufel_: .tar.gz is the .zip and .rar of Linux06:18
Jucatoor .tar.bz206:18
teufel_ok06:18
bill57785seriously guys06:18
teufel_i tried to unpack it06:18
bill57785I tired what you said06:18
bill57785I did the apt-get for svn06:18
bill57785it asked my password06:18
bill57785I entered it, then it just went to the next command line and didn't install anything06:19
SolidSourceteufel_: it could be a broken file06:19
Dr_willisteufel_,  thats an old game.. if you have a 'full linux' version.  it may not even work under some of the newer disrtos..    also it could just be the postal linux binaries that need the actual comercial game data from the cd.06:19
teufel_ok06:19
teufel_screw that then06:19
Jucatobill57785: what are you trying to install?06:19
geniibill57785: You may need to open up one of the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list06:19
teufel_dont feel like reloading kubuntu06:19
Dr_willisteufel_,  use the shell and try to upack it.. :) or go try some newer games. thers some nice free ones out now.06:19
bill57785man I hate being a n00b at linux06:20
teufel_free shooters06:20
Dr_willisteufel_,  why would you have to reload kubuntu?06:20
bill57785open up the repositories?06:20
bill57785http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS06:20
bill57785that is what I'm trying to do06:20
chino i hope this safe update doesn't break anything06:20
teufel_i broke my ati driver last night coundnt fix it06:20
Dr_willisteufel_,  RTCW:ET is a classic, then theres Savage thats out for free now. and Tremulus,06:20
chinoi know how your updating records are06:20
bill57785and I'm at the part that I need to use the svn command to get a tool for combining the special .zip files06:20
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Dr_willisteufel_,  the quake3 code is now open, so thers a lot of work on free games using it.06:20
teufel_return to castle wolfensten ?06:20
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Dr_willisteufel_,  RTCW = return to castle wolf..   RTCW:ET = the free multiplayer only expansion06:21
teufel_hells yeah06:21
Dr_willisboth are great. :)06:21
teufel_well i must have it06:21
Dr_williswork grat on low end box's also.. and lots of people still playingit.06:21
Dr_willisI need to find my RTCW cd's06:21
teufel_anyplace where i can get these06:22
Dr_willisbe sure to install xqf also06:22
Dr_willis!info xqf06:22
ubotuxqf: X-based Quake Server Browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1728 kB06:22
Dr_willis!games06:22
teufel_or do they have offical sites06:22
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:22
bill57785anyone? I'm trying to get this Palm LifeDrive fixed for my youth group leader because he needs it and it is midnight here06:22
bill57785and I have school tomorrow06:22
teufel_hells yea06:22
Dr_willisteufel_,  thers official planetrtcw or whateger sites.. that have the downloads.06:22
Dr_willisteufel_,  check out "savage" for a decent game also.06:22
teufel_im on it06:23
teufel_thanx06:23
Dr_williswww.evolvedclan.com i thinkis the site for that06:23
Dr_willisSavage2 is DUE out soon for Linux - Comercial Game. :) watch for it.06:23
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Dr_willisalso "Darwinia" has a linux port. and ive seen it in the bargin bins for $10 or so. :) a must get if you find it.06:24
bill57785how do I install svn?06:24
Dr_willisa RTS game with a bit of a twist.06:24
geniibill57785: You may need to put "subversion" instead of "svn" in the command.06:24
Jucatobill57785: sudo apt-get install subversion06:24
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bill57785ok, thanks I'll try it06:24
geniibill57785: eg: sudo apt-get install subversion06:24
Dr_williswell night all.06:24
bill57785"Couldn't find package subversion"06:25
Dr_willisskittles dident say goodbye.. :()06:25
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bill57785something to do with those repositories, I know06:25
bill57785but I dont get the whole repository thing06:25
bill57785genii?06:26
geniibill57785: There is a file /etc/apt/sources.list whichj contains a list of sites to contact for downloads of packages to install. They have subdirectories such as main universe and such. Some repositories are not enabled by default for various reasons06:27
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Cobra-Bubblesyum06:28
Cobra-BubblesKoolaid+Carbon=Win06:28
geniibill57785: Which dist of ubuntu do you have? dapper edgy etc06:28
Minatakugenii: Thanks for the news and sorry for the late reply XD06:28
bill57785dapper06:28
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geniibill57785: So in the file described, urls should look something like: deb http://countrycode.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/dapper       then some specific dirs there to include06:29
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genii!info subversion dapper06:30
ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB06:30
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geniibill57785: So the bot tells us the package is in "main" repository which should be there by default06:31
geniibill57785: Please try first:   sudo apt-get update    then the other command06:32
Stalk3rwell, kopete rules compared to ayttm06:32
Cobra-BubblesO_Ox I killed Adept Manager by accident...damnit06:32
Stalk3rg'night everyone06:32
geniieg sudo apt-get install subversion06:32
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Cobra-BubblesAnd now...it won't reopen06:32
Cobra-Bubblesrebooting tiiime!06:33
bill57785the main repository isnt there though, I dont think06:33
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bill57785unless that is the backports06:33
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: what won't open?06:33
geniibill57785: No, backports is another location.06:34
bill57785well thats what I thought06:34
bill57785http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9978/06:34
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geniibill57785: Anyhow, if you use something like  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list         you can open the file in root mode and uncomment all the lines which start with # deb   then save it, try again   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion06:35
SolidSourcejucato: you know the run command for running a script in konsole? trying to create a script I made06:35
SolidSourcejucato: a link to a script06:36
geniibill57785: OK, reading06:36
JucatoSolidSource: ./filename06:36
bill57785thanks ^_^06:36
SolidSourcejucato: tried...doesn't work06:36
JucatoSolidSource: depends on what script though.. that's for a bash script and an executable...06:36
JucatoSolidSource: sh ./filename ?06:36
Jucato(no ?)06:36
SolidSourcejucato: tried that, I need it so that in opens konsole and runs the script06:37
JucatoSolidSource: aah.. hm... "konsole -e filename" I think... not entirely sure06:37
geniibill57785: remove the # from before every line which has # deb  to start it by using nano in root mode as I said above. then save the file, run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion06:37
bill57785k06:38
SolidSourceJucato: yay...that was it06:38
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SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: what program wouldn't open?06:40
bill57785ok, editted it, what do I press to save?06:40
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Cobra_Bubblesadept MAnager06:40
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Cobra_BubblesAnd...still won't06:40
geniibill57785: ctrl-x  then Y to save it06:40
bill57785ok...wasn't sure what the ^ was for06:41
max_how do i know if i have edgy or fiesty06:41
Cobra_BubblesI need to close the process06:41
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: then you just try again...it happens cause kdesu/sudo gets stuck sometimes06:41
Cobra_Bubblesnow it's opening Adept Manager in Red-Only Mode06:42
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: close all adept06:42
Cobra_BubblesYeah...How?06:42
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SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: in kkonsole run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"06:43
max_how do i know if i have edgy or fiesty?06:43
Jucatomax_: type "lsb_release -a" in Konsole06:43
bill57785ok, subversion installed fine06:43
SolidSourcemax_: feisty hasn't been realed yet06:43
geniibill57785: I'm sort of away from keyboard maybe 3-5 minutes but returning06:44
max_i know06:44
SolidSourcereleased06:44
max_i did an upgrade06:44
bill57785ok, its fine06:44
max_wanted to make sure it worked06:44
Cobra_BubblesHey, there we go06:44
Cobra_BubblesNow...To try out WINE06:44
max_which it did06:45
SolidSourcemax_: easiest way to look is merely by looks...feisty shutdown/logout dialog is way different06:45
SkullerCobra_Bubbles: also try out !adeptfix when it wont open06:45
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Skuller!adeptfix | Cobra_Bubbles06:46
ubotuCobra_Bubbles: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:46
max_SolidSource: is it? *checks* im trying to find some changes in it06:46
SolidSourceskuller: told him06:46
SkullerSolidSource: sorry..dint notice06:46
SolidSourcemax_: yes, its a little more visual06:47
Cobra_Bubbleshrm, now it won't download WINE06:47
max_i saw, i like it06:47
max_do you know any othrt visual changes?06:47
SolidSourceSkuller: just don't want ya to go into more details without need06:47
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SolidSourcemax_: not right off the bat06:47
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SkullerSolidSource: lol..i dont think i am in a position yet to go into any details with kubuntu usage...consideering my limited knowledge earned from people like you here06:48
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Skuller*considering my little knowledge, and that also is credited to people like you here06:49
Cobra_BubblesI go to download WINE with adept and get this.. "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "06:49
SolidSourceskuller: lol, beauty of linus is that is easy to learn anyway06:49
SolidSourcelinux*06:49
geniibill57785: OK, back. Did you try to continue with the instructions you were originally trying then?06:50
SolidSourceCobra-Bubbles: install using konsole06:50
SkullerSolidSource: but still requires people with higher knowledge, like you, to teach06:50
bill57785yes06:50
geniibill57785: Cuccessfully I hope?06:50
genii*Successfully*06:50
Cobra_Bubbleshrm06:50
bill57785but when I try the svn command (svn cat https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hackndev/linux4palm/tools/unpdb.py > unpdb.py) it just sits there for a few minutes then gives me another command line06:50
chinomplayer built into mozilla seems a bit messed up06:50
genii<-- needs coffee06:51
SolidSourceskuller: and yet I still have so far to go06:51
erichow do i get my clock so its not in military time?06:51
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SolidSourcechino: did you configure it?06:51
bill57785I need coffee too lol06:51
chinoidk its just got the window cut off half way06:51
geniibill57785: Yes, all that (hopefully) did was make a file in the directory in which it ran called unpdb.py   this is some python script06:51
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SolidSourcechino: oh, yeah I see that every now and then06:52
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Cobra_BubblesI don't even know the command for that ><06:52
SolidSourcechino: but don't see any of the actually video being cut06:52
SkullerSolidSource: yes..true that...and that fact is what stops people like me from flying high in pride just because they know how to install using konsole's apt-get06:52
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: "sudo apt-get install wine"06:52
bill57785hmm, maybe....06:52
geniibill57785: Hopefully you have python installed already to run it LOL06:52
bill57785let me try something06:52
Cobra_Bubbleswait06:52
Cobra_BubblesI just figured that one out right before you said it06:53
Cobra_Bubbleshehe thanks06:53
bill57785there it goes06:53
bill57785well, I had done that svn in the wrong directory06:53
bill57785so it was looking for the file in the wrong spot06:53
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geniibill57785: Glad it's all continuing now06:53
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bill57785ok06:54
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bill57785I'll keep ya updated06:54
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genii:)06:54
Whiz2anyone here know how to configure lighttpd, and php5-cgi? I followed instructions I found on google, but now my web server won't ok at all06:54
Whiz2work*06:54
miltoshi ppl:-] 06:54
geniiI need to go make another pot of coffee anyhow, so break time06:55
geniiHi miltos06:55
Whiz2i did this after someone suggested I google the question.06:55
SolidSourcethere has to be an easier way than samba to share files with windows06:55
miltos<genii>hi..06:56
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miltosmy kubuntu for some reason has no sound since yesterday ...sth with kmix i don't know...it's very strange as i watched a dvd yesterday...06:57
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Cobra_Bubblesmiltos what soundcard do you have?06:57
bill57785ok, here's a nasty one for ya06:58
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chinoomg its 2 am!06:58
bill57785genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9980/06:58
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geniibill57785: OK, reading06:59
SolidSourcemiltos: last time my sound stopped working, I just reinstalled alsa and alsa-oss and it started working again06:59
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SolidSourcemiltos: for me it was caused by an upgrade07:00
bill57785where it says "[1] +  Done"....does that mean that it altered the zip file at all? if so, I should probably rebuild it07:01
geniibill57785: I think you may have missed either a | or a > or >> just before word "import" in command. It echoed to the console07:01
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elijahhi everyone07:02
miltos<SolidSource>i am going to reinstall alsa and alsa-oss...do you have the commands handy?07:02
geniibill57785: Lemme scrutinize the webpage you are going from for a minute or 2 to see if there is some syntax problem. Away for a minute or 2 (have the addie from before)07:03
elijahi tried to install wine "sudo apt-get install wine" but it keeps on saying that "E: wine package is not avaialable, obsoleted or missing."07:03
elijahwhy is that?07:03
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SolidSourcemiltos: I just did it in adept but the command is "sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa alas-oss"07:03
bill57785ok07:03
GeorgeMoneyHello, I was in here before and asked a question but had to exit before i could get a response. I will repeat it, with some more updates. If anyone could help and advise me what to do, that would be great :D . The problem was: I saw python was installed on my Kubuntu system, but really had no use for it. So i did a apt-get remove python, but this had some unwanted and unexpected side...07:03
GeorgeMoney...effects: it also uninstalled major parts of my system such as the adept thing. I then tried to reboot, but on logon, i got an error that kdm was not found. Will I have to completely reinstall kubuntu? Or is there an easy fix? thanks!07:03
GeorgeMoneysorry if that was really long :/07:04
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miltosSolidSource ...i am doing it via adept rigth now...wait..07:04
SolidSourceelijah: run " sudo apt-get update" and try again07:04
elijahferret, you here?07:04
Cobra_Bubblesokay so WINE is installed... Now I just grab and run Skype-Windows like I would otherwise?07:04
userundGeorgeMoney, as far as I know a lot of programs on Ubuntu depend on python.  Uninstalling it means you're breaking functionality07:04
elijahsolidsource, is the installation of wine still dependent on the internet?07:05
crazy_bushow long does it take for k3b to start burning a dvd iso.  Its being on starting writing for around 5 minutes with no changes07:05
SolidSourceelijah: it will need to download the packages yes07:05
GeorgeMoneyuserund: is there a way i can reinstall all these? i just want to basically revert the uninstall... do you think i might have to go on some live cd then install some special way?07:05
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: maybe....may need windows DLL files07:05
userundGeorgeMoney, get a Konsole and type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", this should replace the uninstalled packages07:05
GeorgeMoneyuserund: well the problem is, i cant even log on :(07:06
Cobra_BubblesHrm... It needs to setup first...07:06
geniibill57785: It seems to be some nested doublequote/singlequote issue which gets escaped before it should and considers "&gt" a new command to execute when it should be part of the first series07:07
userundGeorgeMoney, ah.  can you not boot EITHER option in grub to get the kernel to run?  Under the main option there's another that takes you to a root terminal without a GUI.  You could enter the command there07:07
elijahsolidspource, but i already have the wine package on my machine?07:07
SolidSourceelijah: wine is installed?07:08
elijahmy friend just did the same and it worked on his machine07:08
bill57785lol uh ok07:08
bill57785solution?07:08
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GeorgeMoneyuserund: I can boot into the ubuntu kernel via GRUB, just when i get to the log in screen, it dies because kdm is gone. though i could boot directly into a command line like you said....07:08
Cobra_BubblesHrm....07:08
elijahnope, only the extracted package07:08
SolidSourceelijah: or did you just download from winehq?07:08
elijahyup07:08
miltosSolidSource, i've just removed alsa base and alsa-oss...do i have to reinstall sth else?07:08
elijahonly from winehq07:08
userundGeorgeMoney, yes, try the second option to boot to CLI.  Then run that command.  If it says you have no internet, try dhclient eth0 (or whatever your network interface is called)07:09
geniibill57785: Looking into it07:09
SolidSourceelijah: well wine is in the repos...thats the best and easiest way of install07:09
bill57785lol ok thank you ^_^07:09
Cobra_Bubblesgot a frozen Skype Splash-screen over everything @_@x07:09
bill57785as you can see, I am very close07:09
SolidSourcemiltos: no, if those are re-installed, it should work07:09
bill57785to finishing07:09
elijahokay so how will i do that? thru konsole right?07:09
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: yes, need DLLs07:09
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SolidSourceelijah: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"07:10
GeorgeMoneyuserund: so is this command line the special grub option, or is there an option to specifically boot to a sh command line? (I don't remember, as I'm on my windows partition right now on the same computer)07:10
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SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: you also will need windows fonts07:10
SolidSource!MS fonts07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ms fonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
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Cobra_Bubblesoops07:11
SolidSource!fonts07:11
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:11
Cobra_BubblesAccidentally logged off07:11
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elijahthanks solidsource i'll try that07:11
Cobra_BubblesI saw this last "You need DLL's"07:11
geniibill57785: I have an idea but will pastebin it for you. Give me a moment07:11
userundGeorgeMoney, when you boot up the computer grub usually shows you four or five options by default: boot to full GUI (first line), boot to root shell (second line), run memtest, or boot another OS like windows.  Run the root shell07:11
SolidSource!fonts > Cobra_Bubbles07:11
Cobra_Bubbles!fonts07:11
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:11
sys0110that windows installer is really cool http://goodbye-microsoft.com/          or                https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype07:11
bill57785ok, anything works at the moment...I'm getting desperate07:11
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: the DLLs though will be a little more difficult07:12
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GeorgeMoneyuserund: from what i remember, all I see is boot to ubuntu kernel, boot to recovery mode, boot to old ubuntu kernel, boot to old recovery mode, boot to windows07:12
Cobra_BubblesWell if I can find which ones I need. I can grab them off of a Windows box07:12
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userundGeorgeMoney, recovery mode is the root shell.  Sorry, it's been quite a while since I've rebooted ;)07:12
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: be nice if it was that easy07:12
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Cobra_BubblesI'm ready to do this thing. Lay it on me07:13
Cobra_Bubbleswell07:13
Cobra_Bubbleshang on07:13
Cobra_BubblesI'm using apt-get to install those fontpacks07:13
GeorgeMoneyuserund: ah ok, thank you for all the help :D I'm gonna play with this tomorrow as i'm tired..07:14
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userundGeorgeMoney|Away, good luck07:14
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geniibill57785:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9981/07:14
Cobra_Bubbles.. This calls for a little Habanera07:15
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SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: well...here follow this, found skype may not need the DLLs (wine has some built), though other programs with.......but here is intructions on installing skype 3.007:16
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=621007:16
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Cobra_Bubbles#winecfg?07:18
bill57785ok, I'll continue with the rest of the steps and we'll see if it works07:18
bill57785^_^07:18
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miltosSolidsource...do i have to reboot?07:19
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elijahsolidsource, if i will try the wine update, will i get the same package that i can get from winehq?07:19
SolidSourcemiltos: may need to re-login, but shouldn't have to reboot07:19
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miltosok...07:20
geniibill57785: Hangon, found something. Don't continue yet07:20
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SolidSourceelijah: the one in the repos is going to work the best, it may not be the exact one on the website, but problems come with using the one from winehq07:21
geniibill57785: Some codes were inserted on the page you were working from when the author pasted it in. I found the actual command which it is suposed to be. There should be no > symbol in it07:21
keeserccanybody run automatix with kubuntu fiesty fawn herd 5?07:21
SolidSourceautomatix is EVIL07:21
keeserccit helps us noobs07:22
elijahummm, ok, thanks solidsource :)07:22
geniibill57785: Link with proper command to paste from: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11958507:22
elijahyou're the man07:22
SolidSourceit hurts the machine automatix does....07:22
keeserccIs it better to just apt-get everything?07:22
Cobra_BubblesAwwww07:22
SolidSourceapt-get is better07:23
SolidSourceelijah: the reason is that the ubuntu team (or someone) has created the DEB that is in the repos and has tested it07:23
Cobra_BubblesMeh07:24
geniibill57785: The problemmatic "&gt" is some remnant from a cut/paste the author must have done from html source and did not get replaced to a ">"07:25
Cobra_Bubblesole error07:25
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SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: skype won't install following those?07:25
ndothey can someone help me with alsamizer please?07:25
ndotmixer*07:26
Cobra_Bubblesoh it's installed07:26
Cobra_BubblesIt's trying to connect and giving an ole error when it does07:26
SolidSourcendot: ?07:26
Cobra_BubblesI need to uninstall and try again07:26
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ndoti keep seeing all over the place to unmute channels in alsamizer..but i dont kno how to launch it07:26
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: yeah, I just installed the windows skype myself...and it won't connect...neither is the linux one07:26
edward_anyone can tell me how to enable all the respositories??07:27
SolidSourcendot: kmix isn't doing it for ya?07:27
Cobra_BubblesIt'd be better if I had some way of stopping it from trying to connect when I run it07:27
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ndotorginal problem -> i have no sound...i tried installing the latest rc1 ...sound was perfect in ubuntu..switched over to KDE manager....poof no sound07:28
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ndotand now its not working in eithe rof them07:28
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: there is, just have to get it up and running and change the setting07:28
edward_how do you enable access to the repositories?07:28
ndoti have an intel hda on an asus w3j lappy07:29
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Cobra_BubblesIt tries to autoconnect and like a second later it crashes07:29
SolidSourcendot: well that sounds more of a package problem07:29
SolidSourceedward: uncomment them in the sources.list or update your list (more suggested) with the one from source-o-matic07:29
ndoti then installed the latest stable one, 1.0.13....again nothing....shud i install the libraries....or remove wat synaptic is showin (1.0.11)?07:29
SolidSource!source-o-matic > edward_07:30
SolidSourcendot: if you have more than one alsa driver installed, you will have problems07:30
geniiedward in konsole do: kdesu kate    then open the file  /etc/apt/sources.list   remove all # before lines which read # deb   or # deb-src    then save the file. Then do a package manager update or by koncole:  sudo apt-get update07:30
ndotahhhh so get rid of the old ones synaptic is showin up with07:30
Cobra_BubblesI've come too damn far to fail now07:31
ndotone more thing....somehow an alsabase swp file was made and i cant get rid of it cuz im not root...how do i resolve this07:31
Cobra_BubblesHrm...07:32
SolidSourcendot: you would have to kdesu konqueror and then browse to that folder to delete it...but if its needed, could cause problems07:32
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bill57785ok07:37
bill57785well it is sitting at a "palmOne" screen right now07:37
bill57785....07:37
Cobra_Bubblesgrrrr07:37
bill57785not sure if it worked or what07:37
deathnote!beryl07:37
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:37
geniibill57785: Well, sounds hopeful anyhow :) I dunno if I can be of any help here, don't own one07:37
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SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: taking it that skype still crashing?07:38
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JucatoSkuller: for historical reasons :)07:38
deathnotei would like to know about installing beryl on kubuntu and on other distro eg: sabayon07:38
SolidSourceskuller: because KDE was an after thought07:38
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deathnotei would like to know about installing beryl on kubuntu and on other distro eg: sabayon.. is it easy/stable to install beryl on kubuntu than on other distros?07:39
bill57785lol07:39
SkullerSolidSource: how dare you insult KDE calling it an 'afterthought'?...LOL...no offence man07:39
JucatoSkuller: heh :)07:39
Jucatono really... there was no plan to have a KDE-based deriv of Ubuntu in the beginning07:39
bill57785well it said that the palm would partition the other parts of the compact flash....maybe thats what it's doing07:39
bill57785and it just turned off :(07:39
SolidSourceskuller: KDE seems to be an after thought...except in Fedora, SuSE, and BSD07:39
SkullerJucato: hmm...historical reasons huh?....k i'll accept that for now...but the developers better come up with a better reason soon07:39
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SkullerSolidSource: ohh...cool07:40
JucatoSkuller: what? there's a better reason than historical reasons? O.o07:40
uroshi all. how do i run a command as superuser automatically on startup?07:40
Skullerlol07:40
geniibill57785: Well, reboot it and see if it pops up with palmos I suppose07:40
JucatoSolidSource: you forgot KNOPPIX, MEPIS, Linspire, Mandriva, etc :)07:41
SolidSourceJucato: no I hate those...so I left them out on purpose07:41
geniibill57785: According to the tutorial that is what is supposed to happen07:41
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JucatoSolidSource: just as an example :)07:41
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bill57785lol07:42
bill57785but it sat there for 15 minutes and then turned off07:42
SolidSourceJucato: Mandriva would be better if it stayed Mandrake and remained free....my first linux was mandrake07:42
geniibill57785: Well, yes, the last step was a dd operation which takes a while07:42
bill57785maybe the batteries went dead...in which case I need to do it all over again because it would have screwed up part way through the partitioning07:42
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ChetwinHello all!  I was wondering if anyone had advice on [installing kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu installation]  I want to remove all the gnome junk that is in my kmenu07:44
Cobra_BubblesI feel like cussing, and murder07:44
ChetwinCan I remove the programs [not 1 by 1]  instead of just removing them from the kmenu07:44
bill57785well this isnt good07:44
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bill57785now I can't open the flash card in linux anymore07:44
bill57785:(07:44
Cobra_BubblesFor some reason, using WINE uninstaller to uninstall Skype did jack and shit, Skype is still there and I don't know where "there" is07:45
crazy_buscan anyone help me.  K3b wont burn a dvd iso for some reason.  It starts the burn screen but wont progress from there.  The time counts but nothing else changes.07:45
ChetwinCobra: /home/user/.wine/drive_c07:45
Chetwinwine is hidden07:45
SkullerCobra_Bubbles: why are you using wine to get skype?07:45
geniibill57785: Sorry, can't be of much help there :(07:46
Chetwincrazy: k3b is a crap shute and no one seems to know how to solve any issues with it.07:46
ChetwinI suggest installing banshee07:46
SolidSourceskuller: for the video features07:46
SkullerSolidSource: so did it work?07:46
Chetwincrazy: but that wont burn your dvds, only music cds so i guess it's not of much help to you07:46
SolidSourceskuller: it installed for him...but it keeps crashing07:47
SolidSourcechetwin: K3B burns DVDs07:47
geniibill57785: Likely it is now some fat type of fs on it maybe try mount with -t vfat   option07:47
ChetwinSolid, since when does k3b do anything properly out of the box on kubuntu07:47
SkullerSolidSource: hmm...oh n i could not get my webcam to work with kubuntu...so no point...07:47
bill57785well like normally it pops up and tell me I cannected something07:48
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bill57785and my printer recognizes it, but linux doesnt07:48
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crazy_busis there anyother program to burn dvd iso's?07:48
SolidSourcechetwin: well K3B is what I use to burn DVDs and CDs with no problems...right out of the box (with the addition of the MP3 plugin for it)07:48
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geniibill57785: If you didn't unmount or eject it likely it still thinks it's plugged in07:49
Cobra_Bubblesok this is getting ridiculous07:49
SolidSourcecrazy_bus: you could try Nero...but its really restricted07:49
bill57785I unmounted before I pulled it out of the card reader07:49
bill57785put it in the palm07:49
geniinero for linux sucks royally actually07:49
crazy_busi dont have the windows version so I cant use the linux one07:49
bill57785the palm turned on for about 15 minutes with a palmOne screen07:49
bill57785then shut off, and now linux wont even recognize it07:50
SkullerChetwin: even i have had no probs with k3b...can you tell me some problems in it so i can be prepared for such issues in the future?07:50
bill57785wait, we got a palOne screen again (I plugged it into the life drive again)07:50
SolidSourcecrazy_bus: that never stopped me when I was testing...though I'm happy with K3B07:50
bill57785we'll see what happens07:50
crazy_busI really like k3b.  This has been the first problem i've had with it07:50
Skullergenii: there is nero for linux?07:50
ChetwinI can't get k3b to burn anything07:51
geniibill57785: Since we are drifting offtopic here, if you want further help on it we should private msg for consideration of others unless someone else is also following the thread07:51
SolidSourcecrazy_bus: oh, do you have all the DVD libs installed?07:51
ChetwinIt gives me the permission error and the k3bsetup2 does nothing to fix it07:51
crazy_buswhat dvd libs?07:51
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Skullerall i knew was libdvdcss207:51
SolidSourcechetwin: thats cause you need to go into kcontrol and set the group for it07:51
geniiSkuller: There is a nero version for linux but it works horribly and the program k3b is much better07:51
crazy_busI'm just trying to use the k3b installed by default07:51
ChetwinI'll try that07:52
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SolidSourcetheres also libdvdnav and libdvdplay, but those are for watching DVDs07:52
crazy_busis k3b capable of burning a dvd iso on its own without extra libs?07:53
SolidSourcechetwin: by default only root can burn a disc...but if activate burning group and set it to "CD-ROM" it will work find07:53
Skullergenii: but i guess it should be good or at least a bit of relief for people who are ttly used 2 nero's interface....no?07:53
SolidSourcefine*07:53
Skullercrazy_bus: yes...i have done that07:54
SolidSourcecrazy_bus: you will need libdvdcss207:54
Skulleryea..lol...forgot to mention that07:54
crazy_busthis is a iso I made with devede07:54
Skullerdevede?...wow07:54
geniiSkuller LOL yeah, if someone is completely craving something to burn in linux that they recognise I suppose they may like it07:54
SolidSourceummm if thats similar to PowerISO...thats not a normal ISO07:54
thomax_!grub | thomax_07:54
SolidSourceeven running windows and using nero, PowerISO ISOs don't burn too well07:55
geniibill57785: Hmm, private msg to you seems not working. Likely your nick is not registered07:56
Jucato!register07:56
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:56
geniiJucato Thx07:56
Skullerhow do i make iso's or an image in other formats like mds, ccd, bin/cue and also burn them in kubun?07:56
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: how can I play mp3s?07:57
Cobra_Bubblesoookay, now I'm getting somewhere, it seems07:57
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: don't know. I don't use Xubuntu :P07:57
Cobra_BubblesMy WINE folder is empty07:57
Cobra_BubblesO_O07:57
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: lol/07:57
KnightlustAdmiral_Chicago: use AmaroK07:57
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: what's a krappy joke about KDE?07:57
Knightlustwait07:57
Admiral_ChicagoKnightlust: i'm kidding.07:57
Knightlustthat's a joke07:57
SkullerAdmiral_Chicago: use a music plater like amarok and get the mp3 codec07:57
Knightlusthehehe07:57
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: omg, the Kool Desktop Enviroment07:57
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol :D07:57
Knightlusthehehe, nice one Admiral_Chicago!07:58
Admiral_ChicagoI know how to play mp3s, I'm just bugging Jucato07:58
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: you see me on the planet now too :)07:58
Skullerlol07:58
Jucatoyeah. he's trying so hard to bug me :)07:58
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Skulleri knew it...i have seen admiral helpin out ppl in complicated stuff07:58
SolidSourceskuller: MP3 codec...thats just libxine-extracodecs though07:58
SlynderdaleHow to you change a folders permissions from root to the current user?07:58
Admiral_Chicagoreally, you going to blog ever Jucato ?07:58
SolidSourceSlynderdale: if its root....you really probably don't want to change it07:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: what? you still haven't seen me?07:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: although I forgot to add my hackergotchi lol07:59
Skulleri havent seen any one of you btw...:(07:59
Cobra_BubblesWarning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.07:59
SlynderdaleSolidSource: Its a folder I created using the sudo command, or in the very least, how do I move it to my home directory from my desktop?07:59
SkullerSolidSource: oh..i didnt know about the libxine-extracodec thingy....cool08:00
SolidSourceSlynderdale: if its just that, easy GUI way would be to alt+F2 >> "kdesu konqueror"08:00
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: hackergotchi is there08:00
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SolidSourceSlynderdale: then just move it to where it needs to be08:00
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, I had to commit it after I added my blog.... :(08:01
Jucatoso that means 2 commits08:01
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Cobra_BubblesOh crud08:01
Admiral_Chicagoah.08:01
Cobra_BubblesI deleted EVERYTHING from WINE08:01
Skulleri feel konqueror is not as good as firefox when it comes to normal surfing...i had a lot of issues with konqi surfing08:01
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SolidSourceskuller: yeah, I feel the same way...konqi is not efficient enough for me08:02
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SkullerSolidSource: i guess by not being efficient for you u refer to using hardcore features of a browser....i feel its not even efficient in normal surfing08:03
SolidSourcedon't know how you can....I love my extensions08:03
SkullerJucato: what is good about it?08:03
Cobra_BubblesIs there any help for a (Total moron) who erased his entire /wine folder?/08:03
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SlynderdaleAnyone knowa good FTP server for linux?08:04
Admiral_ChicagoCobra_Bubbles: check your trash can?08:04
SolidSourceSlynderdale: I use proftpd...though most don't care for it08:04
JucatoSkuller: fast, light. KDE integration,08:04
bill57785sorry for ignoring you guys. You have been an absolutely huge help, especially genii. I'm gonna have to take this problem to a palm hacking support forum. Thanks again.08:04
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Jucatostandards-compliant, etc. but sure it's not perfect08:04
bill57785later08:04
geniiSlynderdale: Yes, proftpd08:04
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Cobra_BubblesEmpty08:05
SolidSourcejucato:I get faster page loads in firefox08:05
JucatoYMMV08:05
geniibill57785 Best luck08:05
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SkullerJucato: i dont reali care/feel much about your first two points compared to firefox...can you elaborate on 'KDE Integration' a bit more please?08:05
deathnote!ati08:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:06
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Cobra_BubblesAnd I've removed/reinstaleld WINE af ew times now08:06
Cobra_BubblesNothing08:06
SolidSourcejucato: even with KDE integration, it doesn't have the custom ability08:07
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geniiSlynderdale: There are some good instructions here , but do the second methood since you are using KDE http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7958808:07
JucatoSkuller: KDE-integration: works well with KDE features/technologies, like kio (ftp:/, ssh:/, fish:/, etc.), and KParts (embedded app viewers), takes advantage of apps like KGet, looks normal in KDE (widget style)08:07
Cobra_BubblesIt seems that removing WINE doesn't get rid of all of it's files, and replacing it doesn't put them back08:07
Cobra_Bubbles><08:07
Jucatolook, I'm not arguing your choices. so let's leave it at that ok?08:07
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: nope...thats purging08:07
geniiSlynderdale: In the second method where it says gedit replace that with another editor like nano08:08
Admiral_Chicagoomg Jucato stop antagonizing everyone08:08
JucatoO.o08:08
Cobra_BubblesPurging is what I need08:08
SolidSourceJucato: well i know...but whats the fun in that08:08
Cobra_BubblesThen08:08
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Cobra_BubblesSo that I can reinstall WINE and start form scratch08:08
deathnotehi.. is it normal for a ATI Radeon mobility M6, when i type fglrxinfo it shows "OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.     OpenGL renderer string : Mesa DRI Radeon xxxxxxxxxxxAGP etc" ?08:08
miltos<genii>i've tried everything and i've got no sound on my kubuntu08:08
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: WINE is a pain in general08:08
JucatoSolidSource: you and I have a different understanding of fun. so let's leave it at that, too08:09
Cobra_BubblesI agree, but worth it for this.08:09
SkullerJucato: ok i didnt get anything that you explained, since i dont know/use any of those features in my surfing....i guess konqi is good for bigtime net surfers...i'll suffice with firefox for now and some time to come...thanx for the info08:09
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: I prefer crossover linux...though that costs money08:09
SkullerAdmiral_Chicago: hugs?...FxFTW?08:09
geniimiltos Sound problems are not my strength unfortunately08:09
Cobra_BubblesSo... How do I purge?08:09
Admiral_Chicagofirefox for the win.08:09
Skulleryay...lol08:09
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SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: "sudo apt-get remove --purge wine"08:09
Slynderdaleg08:10
geniimiltos I can try to help a bit if you like08:10
miltosso..someone will help me with sound...any ideas?08:10
deathnoteTungsten graphics ? wasn't it suppose to be ATI technologies or something08:10
deathnotedid i install it wrongly?08:10
miltos<genii> ok...08:10
geniimiltos Are you seeing a speaker icon on bottom right?08:10
Slynderdalegenii: I have Gnome, KDE, Xfce and Enlightment installed, so gedit should work, though I will use kate08:10
miltosyes08:10
geniiSlynderdale: OK, good, not a rookie :)08:10
geniimiltos Does it have a red bar thru it or no?08:11
deathnotedid someone read my msg?08:11
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Cobra_BubblesI purged WINE and reinstalled it but it still says Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.08:11
Skuller!purge08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
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miltosno it doesn't...when i put the mouse over it ...i've strength 100%08:12
geniimiltos OK, so a simple thing to try: right-click on speaker icon. Open the mixer. Unmute any devices which say PCM and put up their volume08:13
SolidSourceerr...damn feisty, doesn't want to play nice tonight08:13
Admiral_ChicagoSolidSource: I don't code. Can't code to save my life, but I am helping out with Mozilla Team and we are building a few patches for KDE integration08:13
SolidSourceAdmiral_Chicago: yes, but by "help" could just be mentioning08:13
SolidSourceAdmiral_Chicago: and yes, I have suggested the same in forums in the past08:14
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: btw, you've seen this right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE08:14
Admiral_Chicagohelp, as in the patch is pushed upstream and we are waiting for Mozilla's response08:14
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no I haven't. okay sec08:15
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Cobra_BubblesHow the hell can I COMPLETELY remove WINE so that I can reinstall it FROM SCRATCH?08:15
SolidSourceJucato: thank you...I was looking for that, since I can't get acroread installed08:15
Jucatogenii: the what?08:15
Cobra_BubblesWITH all the relevant files?08:15
Admiral_Chicagothe biggest issue is that we package Mozilla's tar balls, and thats it08:15
JucatoSolidSource: can't you configure something in about:config to use kpdf instead?08:15
Jucatohm...08:15
deathnoteapt-get remove wine08:15
SolidSourceJucato: thats what that page explains08:16
Jucatooh there...08:16
Jucatolol yeah heheh08:16
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miltos<genii>nothing...08:16
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Jucatogo go go Admiral_Chicago08:16
geniiJucato: For an svg explanation: http://www.adobe.com/svg/08:16
geniiJucato Some mapservers use this. You can zoom in infinitely etc etc08:17
SolidSourceJucato: of course...I can't even use those directions08:17
Jucatogenii: hm.. I thought you were talking about veiwing SVG images in Konqueror, which it can already do08:17
geniimiltos Well, that is the only fast quick-fix from me then08:17
miltos<ok>thanks...anyway08:18
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: any idea which version of KDE dapper uses...08:18
JucatoKDE 3.5.2 by default afaik08:18
Cobra_BubblesSame.Exact.Results08:18
Cobra_Bubbles...08:18
Jucatobut upgradeable up to KDE 3.5.5 only08:18
Cobra_BubblesEVERY SINGLE TIME, NO MATTER HOW08:18
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: sorry, what's the problem again?08:18
miltos<genii>and sorry, but i need someother help...my usbflash icon doen't appear when i plug in my external HD device anymore...08:18
Cobra_BubblesIs there NO reliable way to COMPLETELY remove something, and COMPLETELY reinstalle it from scratch?08:18
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: have you removed the ~/.wine folder?08:19
SolidSourceCobra_Bubbles: some things need to be removed manually08:19
Cobra_Bubbles~__~x08:19
geniiCobra_Bubbles: exaqmine the man page for dpkg there are several force remove type options08:19
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: the package manager will only remove/purge files installed in places *except* the user's home directory08:19
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: does the first part make sense. Fx as default browser... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE08:20
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Cobra_Bubblesokay08:20
Cobra_BubblesHre's where I am08:20
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: afaik, there is no control center08:20
Cobra_BubblesWINE is gone08:20
MuJ7win2008:20
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: so to completely remove wine, you need to make 2 steps. sudo apt-get remove --purge wine08:20
MuJoops08:20
Cobra_BubblesI have attempted to go to ./wine jsut to make sure08:20
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: and delete the ~/.wine directory08:20
geniimiltos The usb device still works but the icon does not display?08:21
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lacks a very important step: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser08:21
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: without that command, non-KDE apps will still launch Konqueror08:21
Cobra_Bubblesall is gone... Now08:21
Cobra_BubblesI will sudo apt-get install wine08:21
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: but there's a problem... I don't know how to make that work if Firefox was installed from the tarball08:22
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: didn't need to do that on my system.08:22
Cobra_Bubblesokay.. Now I am setting up Winecfg to support Skype08:22
Admiral_Chicagookay I'll mail Mozilla Team, we will review it.08:22
Cobra_Bubbles(I will Pastebin every bit of this if it doesn't work this time)08:22
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: have you tried clicking links in non-KDE apps?08:22
miltosneither...08:22
Admiral_Chicagono, don't use any. still in my kde box08:23
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: most notably, Kubuntu users using GAIM or XChat experience this08:23
geniimiltos You have other usb things which still work, or all usb things are not working now?08:23
Jucatobecause the Default Browser settings in KControl/System Settings only affect KDE apps :)08:23
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Admiral_Chicagoyes, i see. well i'll put that in my notes.08:24
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uros hi all. how do i set a command to be run on startup?08:24
miltosonly...the usb ntfs hd drives doen't work other's work...08:25
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geniimiltos please, when responding put like:          genii Hello               or so. Otherwise I have to watch closely for scroll and others do not know you are directing your message to me and not them.08:26
SolidSourceJucato: that site seems outdated, there is no "downloads" tab in firefox now.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE08:26
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: thanks for that.08:26
miltos<genii>ok08:26
JucatoSolidSource: I didn't write that page. I just know that it exists08:26
geniimiltos Also I have to watch every line of scroll to catch your messages08:26
Admiral_ChicagoSolidSource Jucato , i'm sending this to our team to review.08:26
SolidSourceJucato: yeah, just letting ya know08:26
geniimiltos Thanks, but just genii  not <genii> please LOL08:26
JucatoSolidSource: but since both FIrefox 1.5 and 2.0 are supported, I think it makes sense to keep that still08:27
miltosgenii...ok08:27
SolidSourcetrying to get kpdf to work through firefox....but there is no PDF line in filetypes08:27
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geniimiltos OK so as I understand... your other usb hard drives work but not the ntfs one?08:27
Cobra_Bubblesbrb08:27
miltosgennii...yes08:27
Admiral_Chicagoah no wonder i never saw it. made last month, from a gentoo guide. blah.08:28
miltosgenii...yes08:28
Admiral_Chicagookay bed now08:28
geniimiltos OK. Please paste the contents of the file /etc/fstab    to the pastebin website08:28
genii!pastebin | miltos08:28
ubotumiltos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:28
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: g'night!08:29
SolidSourcewell...guess I have to stick to downloading and then opening PDFs08:30
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miltosgenii...here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9986/08:30
geniimiltos OK, reading. Back shortly08:30
Cobra_Bubbles... Aw well08:31
Cobra_BubblesI give up on the WINE thing08:32
SolidSourceJucato: have you seen konquefox and mozilux? (firefox take offs)08:32
jake_what program for peer?08:32
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JucatoSolidSource: konquefox yes I think08:32
Jucatojake_: what kind of peer to peer? KTorrent for torrents08:32
eh-ef-kayhello i have an odd problem That no one seems to be able to answer08:32
Jucato?08:32
SolidSourceJucato: kind of interesting,, sounds like an attempt at getting firefox to take over konqui duties08:33
JucatoSolidSource: well...08:33
eh-ef-kayevery i'd say hour or so when my wireless checks the lease to the router my lan ip changes and it only does it on the kubuntu side it never does this on the windows or freebsd box's i have08:33
Cobra_BubblesMy next option I suppose is to set up a dual-boot to Windows08:34
geniimiltos OK, that file looks fine. The issue would seem to be in the detection system then for mass storage someplace.08:34
Cobra_BubblesMeaning... I gotta figure out how to do that. I don't suppose it's as simple as making a new partition and isntalling XP onto it08:34
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SolidSourceJucato: just says sounds....won't happen08:35
Jucato!dualboot08:35
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)08:35
JucatoCobra_Bubbles: ^^^08:35
Cobra_BubblesThanks ^^08:35
ndothey i got my sound working again. now im on beryl issues...it says xcomposite failed...how come?08:35
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geniimiltos A few minutes please while I do some research08:35
jake_like kazaa for windows08:36
eh-ef-kayany takers :D08:36
miltosgenii...ok08:36
krautmoin08:36
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Cobra_BubblesI have to use the LIVECD to make a new Partition for Windows to use?08:36
miltosndot...i've got problems with my sound system any help...08:36
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ndotmiltos: i had to install the latest *unstable* rc1 of alsa to get it working08:37
ndotlemme find the link hold on08:37
miltosndot...did you install it via adept?08:38
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SolidSourceeh-ef-kay: I wish I could help...but not a wireless user, the wireless thing is actually still why I have windows on my laptop08:38
ndotnope...ok go to this link and follow everything..i did that and it all works now08:38
null_s;;tohjt08:38
ndothttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32476408:38
null_ok08:38
null_isthg08:39
null_i need a sudo aptget install madwifi command08:39
null_or something08:39
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null_i'm really tired and can't stay awake to do this08:39
null_god i feel like a windows n00b trying tof giure soeitmhg out08:39
ndotim no expert so if that doesnt woik ull have to come back in here and try to get it resolved08:39
Cobra_BubblesThose directions seem to only be for if you have Windows installed already and want to add Kubuntu to that.08:39
null_i don't have yakuake installed oso ci cnaoot use terminal08:39
null_and i am so wasted :(!08:39
geniimiltos Using a text editor in root mode open the file /etc/fstab and add to the bottom: none  /proc/bus/usb  usbdevfs  defaults  0  0              then save it again. Then from konsole do:  sudo mount -a08:39
ndotanyone here familiar with beryl problems??08:39
miltosgenii ok08:40
null_beryl is the devil >_<08:40
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Slynderdalegenii:08:41
Slynderdale - no such group 'nobody'08:41
Slynderdale - Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'nobody' on line 19 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'08:41
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deathnotehi.. how do i stop radeon module from loading up at startup?08:41
deathnotei did a lsmod | grep radeon and found out radeon and drm is loaded.. that stopped my fglrx from loading08:42
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deathnotehow do i remove it?08:42
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geniiSlynderdale: OK 1 minute08:42
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miltosgenii...konquer gives me the message "bad URL"08:46
fdovingdeathnote: blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist08:47
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kuma08:47
geniiSlynderdale: Try adding it with: sudo addgroup nobody 6553408:47
Slynderdalege\08:48
Slynderdalegenii: addgroup: The group `65534' does not exist.08:48
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fdovingSlynderdale: sudo addgroup --uid 65534 nobody08:49
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fdovingSlynderdale: but, you don't want to do that. because 'nogroup' exists already. use that group instead.08:50
geniifdoving thx, was looking it up LOL08:50
fdoving:)08:50
geniimiltos What url did you put??08:51
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Cobra_BubblesSooo... How do I get a VMWare image?08:52
Slynderdalefdoving:08:53
Slynderdale - no such user 'nogroup'08:53
Slynderdale - Fatal: User: Unknown user 'nogroup' on line 18 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'08:53
miltosgenii, when i plugged my ntfs hd drive, daemon asked me to open it and it returned the error "bad URL"08:53
thumperRiddell: ping re bug 8471708:53
thumperRiddell: I'm happy to test on laptop and desktop08:53
geniiSlynderdale: Yes, "nogroup" should be the group, not the user08:54
fdovingSlynderdale: user should be 'nobody', group should be 'nogroup'08:55
Cobra_BubblesNobody knows how I get/make a VMWare Image to install Windows XP onto?08:56
geniimiltos Does directory /proc/bus/usb   exist on your system?08:56
miltosgenii,yes08:57
fdovingCobra_Bubbles: get the blank image linked to from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player08:58
SlynderdaleBah, I can't get GPROFTPD to work08:58
geniimiltos does file /etc/init.d/devfs  exist?08:58
geniiSlynderdale: Did you choose standalone or inetd?08:59
Slynderdaleinetd08:59
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geniiSlynderdale: standalone would be preferred unless you are running other services as well. If you put inetd then make sure inetd or xinetd is installed as well09:00
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Slynderdalegenii: How do you change it to standalone?09:01
miltosgenii,no09:01
geniiSlynderdale: In root editor change it in /etc/proftpd.conf    then do sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart09:01
geniimiltos OK, 1 minute09:01
Cobra_Bubblesoh wow... An online VMX generator09:02
Cobra_BubblesWesome09:02
Cobra_BubblesAwesome, even09:02
Slynderdalegenii: It already said ServerType standalone09:03
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geniiSlynderdale: OK. After any changes to that file make sure to restart it then as above described. Otherwise it is using cached group and so on09:03
Cobra_Bubbles/dns Cobra_Bubbles09:04
deathnotewhy after i modprobe -r radeon and drm , after rebooting, these 2 modules are still loaded?09:04
deathnotei want fglrx09:04
geniimiltos At konsole when you do: sudo mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb             does it give complaints?09:06
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miltosgenii, yes "unknown filesystem type 'usbdevfs'"09:07
geniiSlynderdale: If you pastebin the /etc/proftpd.conf file I will look at it also09:07
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geniimiltos OK, 1 minute to think09:07
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lahcenhello09:09
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lahcenguys, i installed kubuntu fiesty today and i have a dlink usb wireless adapter,so i installed ndiswrapper and it installed all fine but there is nothing09:10
deathnote!modprobe09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:10
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lahceni mean when ii type "ifconfig wlan0" it shows it09:11
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lahcenso i typed "ifup wlan0" and it comes back with "wlan0 is already configured"09:12
lahcenis it still modprobe?09:12
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geniimiltos Please pastebin result of command:  lsusb09:12
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c0nv1ctevenin' folks09:13
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lahcencan somebody help me?09:14
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c0nv1ctlahcen: i'll try09:14
miltos!pastebin09:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:14
SolidSourcewell...night all...I'm not using keyboard for pillow tonight09:15
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miltosgenii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9989/09:15
geniimiltos OK, reading09:15
geniimiltos This is with usb drive plugged in?09:16
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miltosgenii, yes09:17
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lahcenhere you go guys, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9990/09:18
miltosgenii,sorry i have to leave...09:18
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c0nv1ctlahcen: have you tried configuring it using the GUI?09:18
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lahcenndisgtk?09:19
geniimiltos OK. With editor in root mode, change the line we added into: usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto 0 0               save it, the do again   sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart09:19
geniimiltos Ah, OK :( Well, best luck later then09:19
miltosthnaks, anyway09:19
miltosgenii, thanks anyway09:19
geniimiltos np09:19
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lahcenI tried using ndisgtk but it crashed the first time but now it doesn't even start09:20
geniiSlynderdale: Getting anywhere with ftp ?09:20
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smurphy\nick Smurphy09:21
c0nv1ctlahcen: you tried kcontrol or the kde system settings?09:21
smurphySorry for thespam... Seems the old ircd commands are not really working her :)09:21
fdovingsmurphy: use /command instead of \command09:21
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lahcenit doesn't show up there09:22
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c0nv1ctlahcen: wlan0 doesnt? it only shows eth0?09:22
lahcenthere is only  eth0, yes09:22
lahcenno wlan0 in network settings09:23
c0nv1ctinteresting, the only machine i have with wireless, has its card show up in network settings09:23
c0nv1ctlahcen: let me get my laptop real fast, brb09:23
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lahcenit worked fine with kubuntu 6.1009:24
lahcensure09:24
c0nv1ctlahcen: you using feisty?09:25
lahcen7.0409:25
lahceni guess it is feisty09:25
c0nv1ctlahcen: ya, same as my laptop then09:25
lahcencool09:25
c0nv1ct1 sec, i gotta fix something on my wireless router first09:26
lahcenwhen i  used ndiswrapperutil V1.9 it said that the bustype is wrong, so i went back to V1.509:27
lahceni am back to v1.1, not v1.5, sorry09:28
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smurphyfdoving - thx.09:30
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Smurphyhehe ... Worked. Damn - been 10Years I didn't use ICR :)09:31
c0nv1ctlahcen: why are you using ndiswrapper?09:32
lahcenyes09:32
lahcenis there a driver for dlink dwl-122 in linux?09:33
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c0nv1ctD-Link DWL-G122?09:33
fdovinglahcen: yes, it's prism2_usb09:34
lahcenno, just D-link DWL-12209:34
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fdovingit uses linux-wlan-ng.09:34
fdovinglahcen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-12209:35
c0nv1ctyeah, Prism is what u want09:35
lahcenohhh i remember, but there was always a problem when i installed it09:35
lahcenso i onnly install linux-wlan-ng from adept manager, right?09:36
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lahceni know it is stupid but should i uninstall ndiswrapper first ? or can i just leave it as it is?09:37
SmurphyStrange - WLan even works under Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS over here - on a Mac-Mini :)09:37
c0nv1ctyeah, it says its for Prism2 cards09:38
c0nv1cti have a different wireless card so i dont have all that installed09:38
SmurphyGuess ndiswrapper is required to have it running. But prism2 CHipsets did run without ndiswrapper ... Got such a card - but used it long time ago.09:38
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c0nv1ctyeah, i'm not using ndiswrapper either09:38
geniiYeah Orinoco used to be great prism2 chipsets for linux09:38
lahcengreat09:38
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lahceni'll install it now09:39
lahceni'll post back with the result09:39
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Smurphygenii - yep>That's the one I used ...09:40
MobsterLobsterhello kubunters09:41
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c0nv1ctstupid friggn dlink wireless router09:43
c0nv1ctalready had to RMA it once, and its acting up again09:43
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lahcennop, not working09:43
freeware_xphi can i get some vista help please?09:43
c0nv1ctfreeware_xp: lol, thats hiliarous09:43
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lahcenI installed the driver and rebooted the machine but nothing09:44
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geniiYes sort of an oxymoron09:44
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Smurphyany Mac-Mini users here ???09:45
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Hirvinen!ask | Smurphy09:45
ubotuSmurphy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:45
freeware_xpi have vista installed on my other pc, somehow vista lost my profile, so i lost everything, then it automaticaally made me a new profile, then it lost that one, grrrrrr, i'm here because microsoft really doesn't have any help services, well like $75/hr usd they do. bastards@microSofty09:45
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c0nv1ctfreeware_xp: i'd be glad to help you install Kubuntu over Vista09:46
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Smurphyubotu: Well - cause mac-mini uses EFI - this I got around. But can't take advantage of suspend to RAM or even Standby mode ... Anyone got that running nice ?09:47
freeware_xpthanks convict i thought of that, but need to use dreamweaver and photoshop cs2, not really great wine items09:47
unix_lappyfreeware_xp: actually dreamweaver works well, and photoshop cs works well too.09:47
unix_lappywith wine that is.09:48
freeware_xpon ubuntu with wine unix-lappy?09:48
freeware_xphmmmmmmmmmmm you might have a sale comming to a close09:48
unix_lappyfreeware_xp: give it a try. works fine here, along with office 2k309:49
freeware_xp<------------- freeware-xp means basically their are so many piratedf versions of xp that its freeware now, that you can get xp almost anywhere on the net09:49
unix_lappyfreeware_xp: that's not an argument09:49
freeware_xpnot office 2003 tooooooooo , yahoooooooooooooooooo09:49
c0nv1ctyou use the timerstop on vista?09:50
freeware_xpno its the 100% legit version bought and cried/paid for09:51
c0nv1ctouch09:51
fdoving!offtopic09:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:51
freeware_xpi've got tears and my beers, unhappy vista owner09:51
lahcenguys, this is what ii got after installing the the driver you told me about,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9994/09:51
c0nv1cti should get a free copy, since i bought Win XP x64 and got ripped off09:51
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c0nv1cti didnt research first, to find out its just a dumbed down server 2003 made into a client09:52
fdovinglahcen: you have wlan0 :)09:52
lahcenit seems like i do, but i can't connect to the router09:52
freeware_xpyou didn't buy win xp 64bit, man that hurts, i downloaded a pirated one for my 64 bit pc and used it for ummmmm 30 mins and then FORMAT, and reinstalled SiCO xp SP3 ,09:53
Smurphyfreeware_xp - I don'tthink it's a good think talking about pirated stuff around here ... Better talk about a copied Ubuntu :)09:54
fdovingSmurphy: correct.09:54
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Cobra_BubblesEvery single dualboot setup HOWTO I can find explains how to add Ubuntu to a Windows system... Says NOTHING about adding Windows to an Ubuntu system09:55
lahcenfdoving: the machine doesn't recognize wlan0 as wirelss extension, any ideas why?09:55
SmurphyCobra_Bubbles - Just do it. Then after XP overwrote your MBR - boot from the Kubuntu CD and reinstall grub/lilo.09:56
Smurphylahcen: You loaded the driver ?09:56
fdovingCobra_Bubbles: it's the same. make room for a windows partition, create a fat32 partition in the free space. install windows to it, restore grub as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:56
lahcenyes09:56
Smurphyfdoving: Nice :009:56
lahcenand rebooted09:56
SmurphyYou need to load the driver after the reboot - not before ;)09:56
Smurphylahcen: what driver is it ?09:57
lahcenlinux-wlan-ng09:57
Smurphyok - try the following: rmmod linux-wlan-ng09:57
Smurphythen reload it with: modprobe linux-wlan-ng09:57
fdovingthere is no linux-wlan-ng module.09:57
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fdovingthe module is 'prism2_usb' if it's the DWL-12209:57
Smurphyand run: dmesg - at the end - it should tell you loads about if the driver was successfully loaded.09:58
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fdovinglahcen: did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb ?09:58
freeware_xpya i've always used a "CoPiEd UbUnTu" man i must have 50 versions thanks to rapidshare and meguploads,;)09:59
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Smurphylahcen: Check if you see something with: iwconfig after loading the driver.10:00
freeware_xpi think i'll go to the windows help and ask for help with ubuntu, lol i love getting them going.=-O, cya's around the flip-side10:01
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SmurphyHmm. Anybody knows where the KDE 3.5.6 repos are located ? Still run 3.5.5 - but want to check if my issues with Beryl go away with 3.5.6 :)10:02
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JucatoSmurphy: are you on Dapper or Edgy?10:03
lahcenhere is what ii  got!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9995/10:03
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SmurphyJucato: Edgy ... 6.1010:04
JucatoSmurphy: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php10:05
SmurphyLahcen: Hmmm. He finds the Wlan - attaches it - but it seems the devices are not created ...10:05
SmurphyDunno why ..10:05
Smurphyjucato: Thx Dude :)10:05
geniiLikely needs a udev.rule10:06
Smurphygenii: Yep. Looks like...10:06
lahcenhow do i go about doing that?10:08
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lahceni reading in a wiki that network manager doesn't work properly with prism2_usb and it needs a patch, I'll see if that'll work10:09
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SmurphyTry it out - yes.10:10
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hds619ciao10:11
hds619uh? ma c' nessunooo???10:12
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Smurphyhds - sono trabalando :)10:13
Smurphy:)10:13
hds619ciao10:13
hds619finalmente qualcuno ke risponde10:13
deathnotehey,, shd i use fglrx for my ati mobility raqdeon m6?10:13
deathnoteor radeon10:13
SmurphySi - ma il mio itialioano non e multo bene. Ma lo capisci bene.10:14
hds619aaaaaaah ma  multilingue sta chat10:14
hds619si si capisco10:14
Smurphydeathnote - depends - if it s a Notebook - no... As resume etc. does not really work with ATI's Official drivers IMHO10:14
SmurphyE inglese - le penso io :)10:14
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Smurphypfff - Online KDE 3.5.6 Update while Running KDE-3.5.5 :) *lol* Let's see when one app crashes :)10:15
hds619mi servirebbe aiuto nella configurazione di una cartella in rete tra il mi kubuntu e un'altro mio pc collegato via router alla mia stessa linea con installato windows..10:15
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c0nv1ctSmurphy: worked fine for me when i did it10:15
deathnoteSmurphy: its a notebook.. i tried fglrx but doesn't work10:16
SmurphyC0nv - Thx for the info :)10:16
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Smurphydeathnote - yeah - ATI does not support older chipsets ...10:16
deathnotehow to find my chipset? i typed lspci but couldn't see the chipset10:16
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SmurphyIl tuo router funziona su windows ?10:16
hds619si si10:16
hds619funziona sia con windows sia con linux10:16
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hds619(kubuntu)10:16
SmurphyArgggg lll... Format /dev/hda && install ubuntu LTS10:17
Smurphyquesto que deve fare :)10:17
Smurphyhjds: Ah. Ma que cartella non funziona ?10:17
hds619asp10:17
hds619ma io10:17
deathnoteSmurphy: if we want beryl, we can't use fglrx right? i've got another newer laptop on ATI also..but using fglrx..was thinking of installing beryl10:17
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hds619devo fare Format /dev ecc...?10:17
SmurphyDamn - Love 6MB Downstream. Took about 3 Minutes to download KDE 3.5.6 update :)10:17
geniilahcen What is the device name it is supposed to create for the adapter?10:18
deathnote!radeon10:18
Smurphyhds: no no ... Era un JOke !!!10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
lahcenwlan010:18
hds619ah ok10:18
Smurphy!fglrx10:18
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:18
hds619allora in che senso qui la cartella nn funziona?10:18
Smurphy;)10:18
hds619cio10:18
mrayis there a way to assign 2 desktops to my two monitors in kde? (one desktop per monitor)10:18
hds619io sono andat in impstazioni10:18
lahcengenii, it is not working10:18
hds619poi in condivisione10:18
hds619e ho aggiunto in modalit10:18
hds619amministratore una mia cartella10:18
Smurphypfff... My technical Italian is sooo bad :)10:19
lahceni installed the patches but no luck10:19
deathnoteas long as glxinfo | grep direct gets yes , my wine will work right?10:19
hds619sorry smurphy10:19
hds619sai dove posso trovare una chat IRC in italiano cm questa?10:19
SmurphyMi scusi - ma il mio italiano non e technico. No capisci molto de que dize ...10:19
geniilahcen Yes, but if it had been successful, what would the device name have been? eg: /dev/n0m or something similar10:19
SmurphyAnyone knos an Italian Ubuntu Chat room ???10:19
Jucato!it | Smurphy10:20
ubotuSmurphy: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:20
seven11somebody know how i can transcode flac 2 mp3 in amarok? if i choose mp3 in profile settings i get: encoding type is not supported???10:20
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lahceni am not sure genii, how do I find out?10:20
Smurphyhds619: probe kubuntu-it or ubuntu-it :)10:20
mrayYou are inside an italian chatroom - at least it sounds like you are :P10:20
geniilahcen Hmm I dunno. Anyhow I am tracking down some stuff so have hope10:20
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lahcenthanx10:20
seven11somebody know how i can transcode flac 2 mp3 in amarok? if i choose mp3 in profile settings i get: encoding type is not supported???10:21
Smurphy*lol* I tried to help  - but my italian is better for getting wine and Girls :D10:21
mrayseven11: are you sure amarok can transcode?10:21
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seven11in ogg no problem mp3 not suppirted mray10:22
mrayseven11: i'd use a transcoding tool for that task  and maybe rip the flac to wav first.10:22
geniilahcen Does prism2_usb show as loaded when you do sudo lsmod|grep prism2   ?10:22
Smurphybrb - restarting KDe session ...10:22
mrayseven11: then maybe you need to install an mp3 encoding package.10:22
seven11what would be the package name?10:23
mraydon't know search for "mp3" and "encode" in adept :P10:23
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Jucato!lame10:23
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB10:23
lahcenhere is the output genii : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9997/10:23
mrayyes, lame sounds good!10:24
mrayinstall lame, that should do the trick.10:24
seven11sudo apt-get install lame ???10:24
geniilahcen Also is this some Sitecom usb modem? I found good a site for Sitecom USB WL012 install with links on it to udev rules and other useful things10:24
geniilahcen: OK, reading paste :) brb10:24
mrayseven11: if you use adept you get a nice description in a GUI before you install.10:25
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seven11ok thanks mray10:25
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mrayseven11: i didn'10:25
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smurphyRe ... Still works :)10:25
mrayseven11: i didn't know that amarok was able to transcode! :d10:25
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Jucatoubotu: ping10:26
ubotupong10:26
seven11mray: script manager has a transcode script... that's handy... :)10:27
mrayseven11: it seems to work with scripts - where did you get your script from?10:27
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genii!yum10:27
ubotuyum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB10:27
geniiheh10:27
seven11and it works with lame :)10:27
genii!botsnack10:27
ubotuYum!10:27
lahcengenii, what is the website of udev rule?10:28
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geniilahcen The page with Sitecom install help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1731652  the page with udev rules and wlan-udev.sh for that device:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-wlan-ng/+bug/2970610:30
lahcenthanx alot10:31
lahceni have to go now10:31
lahcenthanx again and good night10:31
geniilahcen Best luck10:32
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xtavaresx!lame10:36
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB10:36
xtavaresxdam recursive acronyms!10:36
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Skullersince las few days my ktorrent is buggin up n crashin out of the bluez when its running in the background....any suggestions?10:39
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Skuller!torrent10:43
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ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html10:43
Skuller!ktorrent10:43
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB10:43
Skuller!java10:43
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:43
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weedar_My printer, a canon I850, lets me print documents from firefox and OpenOffice, but Acroread won't print a thing10:44
HymnToLifeSkuller, if searchig factoid for yourself, please ask the bot in private so you don't flood the channel :)10:44
weedar_Does anyone have a suggestion what I should do?10:44
SkullerHymnToLife: i'll keep that in  mind10:44
mrayis there a way to assign 2 desktops to my two monitors in kde? (one desktop per monitor)10:45
HymnToLife!xinerama | mray10:45
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ubotumray: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead10:45
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crazy_busI'm trying to use kmediafactory but I get conversion error.  Do I need to install extra pacakges to make it work?10:51
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geniimray Yes. You can have as many monitors and video cards that your system supports. The changes need to be made in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   You need to know the details of your video cards etc11:00
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mrayi'm reading through the howto in ubunut - but i fear i may crash my system. i have kubuntu, not ubuntu, and my monitors have different resolutions.11:01
geniimray For an ATI multi-head video card example, there is one here: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/installation/dualheadhowto.htm If you have different cards or some other you could use it as a guide for syntax11:02
mraycurrently my smaller monitor needs to scroll to see evverything - that's why i want to change something about my system11:02
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geniimray The screens can be set to different resolutions11:03
mraythat would be great!11:03
geniimray do you know your videocard details?11:03
mrayit is an nvidia card11:04
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Cobra_Bubblesoh great11:04
mrayi use teh official nvidia binaries.11:04
geniieg: Do you have 1 card with multiple monitor plugs (multihead) or separate cards with their own drivers etc11:04
Cobra_BubblesMacromedia Flash comes in an .rpm file11:05
mray1 card with 2 slots.11:05
HymnToLifeRPMs are the evil11:05
geniiHymnToLife: Yes. Yes they are.11:05
crazy_buscan anyone help me with kmediafactory.  I added a xvid file to a new project.  However it seems to be just creating menus and not converting the video.  Do I need to use a seperate program for that?11:06
geniimray Let me see if I can find a multihead tutorial then for nvidia11:06
Cobra_Bubbles!Macromedia11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
mraywat about that one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo11:06
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mrayHymnToLife pointed that out to me.11:06
chrismhampsonI have a very strange printing problem. When I print from KDE the file prints fine but the job is never deleted so when I try to print another file it just sits in the queue.11:06
Cobra_Bubblesaha11:07
Skuller!flash | Cobra_Bubbles11:07
ubotuCobra_Bubbles: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:07
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash11:07
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geniimray That site seems fairly comprehensive. You should do OK if you use the examples given but intelligently adapt them to suit your specific card and so on.11:08
Riddellthumper: please do11:08
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chrismhampsonanybody any ideas about how to solve my printing problem?11:09
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geniimray Some other resource pages (one for breezy but with comprehensive xorg samples) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2787111:12
geniihttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=517207&referrerid=19587711:12
geniihttp://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html11:12
mraygenii: thanks! i'll try to read my way through it.11:13
geniimray LOL I know, it can be tedious. But well worth the effort11:13
mrayindeed - this scrolling gets on my nerves all the time!11:13
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jack_hi, adept tells me that there is a new upgrade, but on the release schedule f.f. is to come out middle of april?11:15
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c0nv1ctupgrade doesnt necessarily mean distribution upgrade11:16
geniichrismhampson: Which system are you using? CUPS?11:16
ushabaanyone able to recommend a good how-to for fixing sound in kubuntu?11:16
chrismhampsongenii: yep11:16
c0nv1ct!sound11:16
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:16
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ushabacool, ubotu11:16
deathnotehi in beryl, how do set beryl such that it does not show all the task from all desktops on my panel?11:16
chrismhampsongenii: I bought a print server so I could print without the desktop having to be on but I think it is a Kubuntu issue rather than hardware11:17
c0nv1ctdeathnote: you need to install compiz-taskbar11:17
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c0nv1ctdeathnote: it didnt work for me without upgrading to kde 3.5.6 though11:17
deathnotei'm in beryl now and i'm glad..haha11:17
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ushabai'll warn everyone that this is likely not a simple sound problem...11:18
ushabahaha11:18
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ushababack later11:18
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deathnotecompiz-taskbar ..ok..why when my mouse goes to top right hand corner, the selection screen pops out11:18
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geniichrismhampson: The command lprm without arguments will erase the current job in the queue.11:18
deathnotec0nv1ct: how to install compiz-taskbar ?11:18
jack_c0nv1ct: ah reading again, just announcing a development version thaanks11:18
chrismhampsongenii: shouldn't this be happening automatically though?11:19
c0nv1ctdeathnote: are you talking about the taskbar or the tool that shows all running apps in upper right corner?11:19
geniichrismhampson: Yes, ideally11:19
deathnoteok i'm talking about the tool that shows all running apps (mine is on bottom) .. the tool that u can check "K" on11:20
oemwhy does add remove programs in adept keep closing on me11:20
c0nv1ctdeathnote: thats the taskbar11:20
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c0nv1ctdeathnote: if you install compiz-taskbar it will help, but its still buggy in kde11:20
deathnoteyeah..its showing all 4 desktop's apps..11:21
c0nv1ctdeathnote: the thing in the upper right hand corner is a feature of beryl11:21
deathnoteapt-get compiz-taskbar ?11:21
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c0nv1ctdeathnote: no, its in there i dont believe, use google11:22
c0nv1ctdeathnote: i beleive it was posted on the beryl forums11:22
deathnoteok11:22
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c0nv1ctdeathnote: you can disable that thing that pops up when putting your mouse in the upper right corner11:23
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ReTyPehow do i install latest dolphin ?11:28
geniichrismhampson: Is your printer setup as some generic postscript tcp/ip printer?11:28
c0nv1ctReTyPe: is it not in the repos?11:30
Jucatoc0nv1ct: not the latest11:30
Jucatoand in this case, the latest is the greatest :)11:30
chrismhampsongenii: I have set it up as an IPP printer using samsung driver (ML-1510)11:30
Jucato(although the really latest is only in KDE 4...)11:30
c0nv1cti've been meaning to try dolphin11:31
fdovingdolphin is nice.11:31
c0nv1ctkrusader is ok... but i wanna try it out11:31
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ushabaubotu, tell me you love me about teh sound how-to again11:32
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c0nv1ct0.8.0 isnt the latest and greatest dolphin?11:32
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c0nv1ctlooks to be 3 months old :\11:33
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ushababack about that sound how-to11:33
ushabai can't remember the kmenu portion of it11:33
ushababefore i go fidgeting around with modules and whatnot, might as well try the most basic part11:33
c0nv1ct!sound11:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:33
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geniichrismhampson: I'm seeing exact same symptoms on these pages with IPP drivers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52446 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/cupsys/+bug/5059811:34
ushabait is definitely enabled11:34
ushabatime for the rough how-tos...11:34
oxalahey guys, how do you play WMV in kubuntu?11:34
fdovingReTyPe: you can find dolphin .debs for edgy-i386 (unofficial not verified by me or anyone i know) at http://digilander.libero.it/dr_kabuto/11:34
oxalais there an easy tool or codec?11:34
c0nv1ctoxala: w32codecs11:35
c0nv1ct!w3211:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
c0nv1ct!w32codecs11:35
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs11:35
oxalathanx:)11:35
ushaba!sound11:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:35
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ForgeAusback sorry dissed again11:36
ForgeAusas I was saying I'm a big fan of Krusader11:36
ForgeAusits basically Midnight commander for KDE11:36
c0nv1ctwho was it that wanted to install dolphin?11:36
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ushabawhy is dolphin being created when things like krusader already exist?11:36
ForgeAusprobably Jucato and probably for good reason11:36
c0nv1ctForgeAus: it reminds me of my old favorate dosshell!11:37
ForgeAusNorton Commander?11:37
chrismhampsongenii: thanks...i'm just having a read now11:37
Jucatoushaba: because not everybody can handle twin panel file management11:37
ushabahaha11:37
ForgeAusactually I guess even MS Dosshell was kinda similar11:37
ushabai am a big konqueror fan11:37
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ushabai'm glad dolphin is not replacing konqueror11:37
c0nv1ctwhat i like in krusader is the console at the bottom11:37
ForgeAusI like Konqueror no complaints there, but I like Krusader for file management better11:37
Jucatobut I find the whole war between Dolphin and Konqueror ridiculous11:37
Skullerjucato just found another one...hehe :)11:37
Jucatoushaba: it is :)11:38
ForgeAuswar?11:38
ForgeAusKrusader does inhouse archiving too... whereas konqu uses extensions to Ark11:38
Jucatowell...11:38
JucatoForgeAus: er no11:38
Skullerlol11:38
JucatoForgeAus: Konqueror uses tar:/ (kio slave)11:38
ForgeAusoh yeah that too11:38
ushabait's not replacing konqueror, just getting preference over it11:38
ushabathey're sharing a codebase11:38
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ForgeAusKrusader can use kioslaves too11:39
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Jucatoushaba: Dolphin will be the default file manager for KDE 4, but Konqueror will still be installed by default and available11:39
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ushabai'm sure you can fix that easily11:39
ushabahaha11:39
ForgeAusand really quick cd ftp://<server>11:39
c0nv1ctForgeAus: i use it for sftp often11:40
ForgeAusJucato I find that strange but interesting... means Dolphin must be at least good!11:40
ushabait looks ok11:40
JucatoForgeAus: kioslaves are and will be always available for any kde app, konqueror, krusader, or dolphin11:40
ushabakde 4 is expected to be released by 2008, right?11:40
Jucatono target dates11:40
Jucatoor months.... or year...11:40
ForgeAushow much of kde4 is there?11:41
ForgeAusand like I asked before how'd you go with the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool?11:41
Jucatonot sure... you'll have to look at the source codes11:41
ushabaalright, sound problems have to wait till after   dinner11:41
ushabaadios all11:41
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ForgeAusis it Monday for you yet?11:45
c0nv1ctbeen monday for a while :P11:45
ForgeAuswell its almost Tuesday here11:46
ForgeAusin less than 4 hours11:46
c0nv1ctaussie?11:46
ForgeAusyup11:46
c0nv1cti wish my xmas was in the summer :P11:46
ForgeAushehe I wish we had a summer or a winter, we just happen to have hot and cold and wild-weather days...11:47
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ForgeAusI used to say summer oh you mean that time in March?....(because the seasons seemed to come late for a few years there...) but now its all one big uni-season or something...11:48
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uroshi all. I would like to run xcompmgr automatically on startup - how do i set this?11:48
Skullerits tuesday here in less than 1:15hr11:49
Skullerhehe11:49
ForgeAuswhats xcompmgr?11:49
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c0nv1cturos: what is it, and when during startup do you need it ran11:49
Jucatouros: btw... KWin has its own compmgr available so you don't need xcompmgr11:49
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ForgeAusI don't think kubuntu has it at least it isn't in a default path11:50
ForgeAusis ksysguard an xcompmgr?11:50
ForgeAus(just guessing)11:50
urosi need xcompmgr for doing the fake transparency with kxdocker11:50
c0nv1ctkompmgr?11:50
aidanneed help with kopete11:51
ForgeAusahhhh11:51
JohnFluxForgeAus: ksysguard is like task manager11:51
ForgeAusyeah I know that but whast a compmgr?11:51
urosno idea11:51
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c0nv1ctcomposite manager, i believe11:51
aidancan someone help me with kopete11:51
ForgeAusoh ok cna't use that with ATI11:51
JucatoX Composite Manager11:52
ForgeAusit tells me to turn composite off11:52
c0nv1ctaidan: whats the problem?11:52
oemcon do you not sleep? LMAO i saw you on here like 9 or 10 hours ago11:52
aidanumm wont let msn sign on and passwords correct and yahoo is able to ssign on11:52
c0nv1ctoem: i just woke up, lol11:52
urosnow  - fake transparency doens't work unless i run xcompmgr - how do i set this to run automatically when i log on?11:52
ForgeAusmy msn works in kopete...11:52
oemahh  i just got home from work11:52
c0nv1ctoem: i'm waiting for the stores to open, i'm dying for a damn cigarette11:53
aidanmine does not fr some reason11:53
ForgeAusadian have you got a hotmail account on the same username/pass?11:53
ForgeAusif so try it...11:53
oemlol yeah i had to stop at the gas station and get some11:53
aidannope11:53
aidani use my gmail as my msn11:53
ForgeAushmmm11:53
c0nv1ctoem: ass, nothing is open between 10pm and 5am here, NOTHIGN11:53
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ForgeAusI don't know how that works11:53
ForgeAusits possible thats the problem perhaps?...11:53
c0nv1cti gotta drive atleast 50 miles to find an open store this late11:54
aidanwhat works ?11:54
oemserious? man where you at the outback lol11:54
ForgeAusmsn via gmail11:54
oem50 miles?11:54
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oemdang11:54
aidanno cus it worked fine at my house and im at my dads its not working11:54
c0nv1ctout in the woods of washington state11:54
oemspeedway is like around the corner11:54
oemlol11:54
oemi live in Indianapolis11:54
ForgeAusaiden recheck your login/pass thats the only thing I can think of thats relevant11:54
c0nv1cti went from Phoenix AZ, to Bumfuct, WA11:54
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aidandone that 5 times11:55
ForgeAusmaybe you made a typo or caps ?11:55
ForgeAus(not just pass login too)11:55
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oemwow i went from Arkansas to Indi like it here better11:55
aidanhow would i update kopete ?11:55
ForgeAusadept11:55
ForgeAusrun manage packages  in the kmenu (thats Adept)11:56
oemi could email you a cig but then it wouldnt look right once it got there hahaha11:56
oemsorry couldnt help it lol11:56
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chrismhampsongenii: fixed the problem. I used LPD remote queue instead of remote cups printer and now the jobs are automatically deleted. Thanks for all your help11:57
geniichrismhampson: Glad it got worked out :)11:57
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aidanhow would i get gaim ??12:01
oeminstall it through adept package manager hit search->then type in Gaim12:02
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ForgeAusunless MSN have done something to the network to change it recently?12:02
oemi am finding that most all aps are better done through adept package manager.....12:02
ForgeAusbrb trying to connect myself..12:02
oemthe add remove progams suit is buggy ...it closes on its own while you are search for a proggy12:03
waylandbilloem: don't forget to enable universe repo and 'fetch updates' before searching for gaim if you have not already12:03
oemetc etc12:03
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oemyeah i did12:03
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ForgeAusyup logged in ok12:03
ForgeAus(seemed to take a while12:03
oemmy Gaim works really good better than any other chat platform i have ever used12:03
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oemmy add remove apps has stalled while installing java 2  how do i close it and then reopen it ?12:05
aidanhow do i make it show gaim it dosent show it in adept12:06
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oemdoes any one have the link to the repositories page she needs the repository listed on it12:07
oemshe/he what ever sorry12:07
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oemso i guess inorder to stop a stalled program i need to reboot ...eh?12:08
c0nv1ctoem: no12:08
c0nv1ctoem: can you get access to a console? konsole, or hitting ALT-F112:09
aidani am a guy12:09
oemok how do i stopped a stalled progrma?12:09
chrismhampsongenii: so to conclude...there probably is a bug in cupsys which you can bypass by using remote LPD (if your print server supports it)12:09
oemalt-f1 bring the k menue up12:09
c0nv1ctoem: try ctrl-alt-f212:09
c0nv1ctctrl-alt-f7 brings ya back12:10
geniichrismhampson: Yes, I found other solutions involving using a raw queue as well. Seems some queue-specific issue with cups12:10
c0nv1cti think he did ctrl-alt-backspace12:10
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oembad idea it rebooted me lol12:12
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c0nv1ctoem: oh yeah, it can restart the X server on some machines if you dont log in right away12:12
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c0nv1ctoem, using the konsole, my first suggestion, would of been the best idea12:12
oemnp12:12
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c0nv1ctoem: in the future, when something is frozen, in a console type 'ps -e' to see the PID of every program running, then you can type 'kill -9' and the PID number to stop the program12:13
oemok12:14
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oemty12:14
c0nv1ctomg, 30 mins and i can go buy cigz12:15
oemLMAO12:15
Forgeback... again12:15
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aidanneed help kopete wont let m sign into msn12:17
c0nv1ctaidan: can you sign into other networks ok?12:17
aidanyes into yahoo i can12:18
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ForgeAusbrb12:18
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c0nv1ctaidan: what is it saying when you attempt to log into msn?12:18
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ForgeAusthere doesn't seem to be anything wrong with MSN12:18
aidannothing man just doesnt sign in12:18
ForgeAusall I can think of is something to do with your gmail passthrough?12:19
c0nv1ctaidan: verify that your username and password is entered correctly12:19
ForgeAusI can log in with my hotmail anyway12:19
ForgeAusc0nv1ct apparently done that 5 times (probably more since then)12:19
c0nv1ctyou use a gmail passtrhough to log into msn messenger??12:19
ForgeAusisn't gmail jabber or something?12:20
Ash-Foxno, you're thinking of google talk12:20
Jucatogoogle talk uses jabber12:20
c0nv1cti thought msn messenger required a hotmail or msn.com account to log in12:20
ForgeAusyeah but jabber can include a gateway to msn12:20
Ash-Foxgoogle actually provides free google talk, mail etc. for people's domains now www.google.com/a/ <- it's pretty neat =)12:20
oemit does12:20
ForgeAusc0nv1ct it doesn't exactly12:21
ForgeAusit normally does tho12:21
bumzo!pastebin12:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:22
c0nv1ctForgeAus: weird12:22
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ForgeAuswell I have contacts with yahoo and gmail email addresses12:23
ForgeAusso its not ONLY hotmail addresses12:23
ForgeAusits just usually the way to go12:23
c0nv1ctyahoo is the only one i dont have an account for12:23
ForgeAushehe12:23
ForgeAuswell MSN and yahoo have pretty much amalgamated now12:23
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ForgeAusso you can basically use MSN for yahoo if you want/need anyhow12:24
ForgeAus(I don't know how well it works as of yet, its only a relatively new thing)12:24
ForgeAusit was much easier back when ICQ and AOL joined up12:24
c0nv1cti have 2 msn messenger accounts, and they use hotmail.com and msn.com accounts12:24
ForgeAusI only use one MSN account, my hotmail one12:25
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ForgeAusit does for my live ID, MSN Passort and all that jazz12:25
c0nv1ct"You can use any existing e-mail address from any e-mail provider when you create your credentials for Windows Live ID."12:26
c0nv1cti guess i know nothing about msn12:26
oemyeah and unfortunatly in order to use all of the LIVE as they call it you have to pay for it12:27
bumzohey .. i posted something on kubuntu pastebin .. where do i check for my reply?12:27
c0nv1ctwhat does Live offer thats any good? like the Live Office stuff?12:27
c0nv1ctbumzo: you have to paste the link to the pastebin in here12:27
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c0nv1ctbumzo: thats what a pastebin is for12:28
ForgeAusoffice live is basically a website version of virtual PC to an office 2007 box12:28
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oemhow ever you still have to pay for it12:28
ForgeAus(or the other office live which is a set of other Microsoft web-based services... mostly for domains and stuff I think)12:28
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ForgeAusno you don't at least not the office 2007 one...12:28
oemif you want it on your desktop  offline you do12:29
ForgeAusits one place you can get familiar with the 2k7 interface...12:29
aidani dont no how to configure k msn12:29
aidanor install it12:29
oembeen there done that wont do it anymore12:29
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bumzohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10001/12:29
bumzothere ... like that?12:29
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c0nv1ctbumzo: ya12:29
ForgeAusthe online webtools you need to pay for... but I don't think you can install office 2k7 from the online/VPC version12:30
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c0nv1ctbumzo: try remounting the flash drives using the proper filesystem option12:30
c0nv1ctbumzo: and with your external HDD, you may need to remount and specify write permissions12:31
bumzoconv1ct : how exactly do i do that?12:31
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c0nv1ctbumzo: i dont know how automounting of usb stuff is configured12:31
c0nv1ctbumzo: use umount and mount12:31
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bumzoehe .. then12:32
fuelbumzo : anyway what you need to do is this.....12:32
c0nv1ctbumzo: use 'fdisk -l' to find out what type of filesystem your flash drive uses, its probably fat16 or fat3212:33
fuelpaste the content of /etc/fstab in pastebin12:33
bumzoc0nv1ct: wait .. there is no unmount option, jsut ''safely remove''12:33
fuellet us see how the drive is mounted , oh forgot also /etc/mtab12:33
ForgeAusfuel? what do you mean by default?12:33
fuelsafely remove does not work12:33
c0nv1ctbumzo: its umount12:33
bumzoc0nv1ct: its ntfs12:33
ForgeAusits not the filesystem its the utilities that access them I think...12:33
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c0nv1ctyour flast drive is ntfs?12:34
ForgeAuslol flash drive NTFS? thats wierd12:34
ForgeAusI wasn't aware you could format them like that12:34
c0nv1cti'm sure you could, but i wouldnt want to12:34
bumzonot a flash as such .. and externat hard drive connects via usb port (80GB)12:34
c0nv1ctoh, so you dont have a flash drive AND an external HDD?12:34
fuelForgeAus: freespire does not mount ntfs drives by default (or after installing ) . i thought he might be having similar kind of problem12:35
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fueldefault==without editing /etc/fstab12:35
c0nv1ctfuel: i think the problem is in whatever automounts usb drives on connect12:35
ForgeAuslinux uses tools like ntfs-3g, fuse and I think theres an ntfstools? or something to access NTFS12:36
c0nv1ctfuel: something with the new ntfs3g driver he installed affected it12:36
bumzoc0nv1ct: I have both ..which are not responding12:36
urosstill not working - how do i set xcompmgr to run on startup (just run the command xcompmgr -n &)12:36
c0nv1cturos: at the startup of KDE? or at the startup of the system?12:36
bumzofuel: any idea?12:36
ForgeAusin the past writing to NTFS was problematic, the default way of mounting an NTFS drive under linux (at least Kubuntu) is Read-only12:36
urosconv1ct: sgtartup of KDE12:36
fuelbumzo: i asked you paste your /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab contents12:37
ForgeAusuros why not use kompmgr?12:37
bumzoforgeAus: i have a HDD on my comp and its ntfs and that i can read and write well after installing ntfs-3g (hda1)12:37
fuelbumzo : paste em and let us see if the problem is with the mounting options or with the drivers12:37
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bumzofuel: how do i get that?12:37
fuelbumzo: :D12:37
urosForgeAus: kompmgr also ok - how do i set this to run on startup?12:37
fuelbumzo: alt+f2 - > konsole12:37
c0nv1cturos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10002/12:38
bumzofuel:yes...12:38
fuelbumzo: cat /etc/fstab & then /etc/mtab12:38
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fuelsorry its cat /etc/mtab12:38
fuelpaste the output in the pastebin12:38
bumzo/etc/fstab and /etc/mtab contents12:38
bumzoCould not run the specified command.12:38
ForgeAusum uros maybe run it as a demon?12:38
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fuelbumzo : "cat /etc/fstab"12:38
ForgeAusor put a .desktop link in kde's startup12:38
urosconv1ct: tnx!12:38
ForgeAus(um... forgot the name of it but there is one)12:39
c0nv1ctForgeAus: thats what my pastebin showed him how to do :P12:39
fuel!ntfs12:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:39
fuel!fuse12:39
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:39
urosconv1ct: do you know how I could also do sudo rfcomm bind /dev/rfcomm0 00:0E:07:BF:EE:E3 1 on startup?12:39
fuelshouldnt the bot be called "kubotu" or something ? :D12:39
c0nv1cturos: i dont think you can, since sudo will require a password12:40
fuelbumzo: ping!12:40
ForgeAushehe its shared with #ubuntu12:40
c0nv1cturos: does it require a GUI? you could make it a startup script when your system boots12:40
bumzo!pastebin12:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:40
ReTyPewhen will the next beta of kubuntu be released ?12:40
c0nv1ctReTyPe: one was just released recently12:41
chavouros put it in /etc/rc.local12:41
urosconv1ct: no GUI just running the command12:41
bumzofuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10003/12:41
ForgeAusReTyPe I thinkt heres a release schedule somewhere12:41
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fuelbumzo: your machine mounts your ntfs partition in read only mode! "ro"12:42
uroschavo: when i put it in /etc/rc.local should i put it with the sudo or just the command12:42
bumzofuel: how do i change that?12:43
ReTyPeForgeAus: here https://wiki.kubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule12:43
fuelbumzo: its pretty easy12:43
chavouros no need for sudo, it runs as root12:43
ReTyPeok, so i will test herd 512:43
fuelbumzo: but a little bit risky . Anyway lets get on with the process12:43
fuelbumzo: open your terminal12:43
c0nv1ctbbl, stores opening soon12:43
bumzofuel: opened12:43
fuelbumzo: "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk"12:44
fuelbumzo: first make a back up of your fstab contents (just in case)12:44
ReTyPehmm, final is planned on my birthday, nice12:44
bumzofuel: ah, thats a back up eeh.... done12:44
fuelbumzo: next!12:44
fuelbumzo: "sudo vi /etc/fstab"12:44
bumzofuel:all ears12:44
fuelbumzo: after you open the file for editing, seek the line "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0"12:45
fuelchange the "ro" part to "rw"12:45
fuelbumzo: and carefull that you dont insert any extra character into the file!12:45
urostnx all!12:46
fuelbumzo: if you are new to vi , for editing press "i12:46
bumzofuel: wait, nothing has opened12:46
fuelbumzo: what ?12:46
fuelbumzo: what do you mean? is it blinking or some error ?12:47
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bumzofuel:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10005/  .. thats what showing on the termonal screen12:47
fuelbumzo: :) . it should show that12:48
ReTyPewhat is dmask for ?12:48
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fuelbumzo: press "i"12:48
bumzo-- INSERT --                                                  1,1           All12:48
bumzofuel:thats what i get12:49
fuelbumzo: ok . you see that insert ? now press the arrow keys12:49
fueland seek the line where the ntfs thing is12:49
bumzoyes taht will be sda112:49
fuelbumzo: right, now change the "ro" to "rw"12:50
bumzofuel: done . how do i save?12:50
fuelbumzo: press escape12:50
fuelnext press ":"12:51
fuelthen you will find the cursor at the bottom of your screen12:51
fueltype "wq" and press enter12:51
space_ninjahow do I change my keyboard setting to use anothe ISO thing12:51
space_ninjaanother12:51
bumzofuel:done12:51
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fuelbumzo: to be safe "cat /etc/fstab" and paste it. Lets make sure its done properly12:52
bumzofuel .. i close the terminal?12:52
bumzook ..12:52
bumzofuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10006/12:53
fuelbumzo: :) ok its done!12:54
space_ninjaHow do I change my keyboard settings to use UTF-8???12:54
bumzofuel: so i close terminal n check?12:54
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fuelbumzo: if you have your flash drive connected, remove it using the command "sudo umount /dev/sda1"12:55
bumzofuel: done back to ''bumzo@Bumzo:~$ ''12:55
fuelnow just plug in your flash drive and wait!12:56
bumzofuel: waiting .....12:56
fuelbumzo: wait again . If it does not mount use konsole and type12:57
fuel"sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"12:57
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bumzofuel:mount: you must specify the filesystem type12:58
fuelwtf ?12:58
bumzofuel: was thinking the same thing too12:59
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jack_hi,i have got the problem that guarddog blocks certain ports like 404 (hotmail.co.uk, msn messenger) even though i allowed chat and http as protocols in the settings..12:59
bumzoFuel: should i try mount it from the desk top? ... i can see it there ans when i right click has the ''mount'' option12:59
fuelbumzo: try it01:00
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naamuistell me how i can run windows programs in ubuntu?01:00
bumzofuel: its trying .. says ''loading application''01:00
fuelbumzo: "sudo mount -t ntfs -w /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"  | make sure you have your drive connected01:01
bumzoFuel: its loaded01:01
fuelbumzo: :) check it~!01:01
bumzoFuel: i clicked it opened ''media:/sdb1''01:01
fuelbumzo: i suppose you changed the usb drive ?01:02
fuelbumzo: connected it to a different usb drive ?01:02
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larson9999naamuis: what do you want to run?01:04
fuelnaamuis: use wine01:05
fuel!wine > naamuis01:05
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bumzobut i can ''only view contents''01:05
bumzoFuel: I cant write to it .. should i run the command u have just given?01:05
fuelbumzo : you have connected it a different usb drive right ? if so revert to the first usb drive01:06
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root_c0nv1ct: hi :-)01:06
root_c0nv1ct: Compiz works ;-) ... where there's a will ... there's a way !!01:07
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fuelbumzo: by drive i meant the usb slot ,01:08
naamuisi want to run entropia :D01:09
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fuelbumzo: the problem is now you have to look again at the fstab file and check out what device it is named ,01:09
bumzohi01:09
fuelnaamuis: check out wine software database, it might help you01:09
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oemwhat do i do to activate Alien?01:10
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space_ninjaif slackware and gentoo are using rc.d, what is kubuntu using?01:11
bumzoFuel: i lost connection sorry01:11
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fuelbumzo: by drive i meant the usb slot ,01:11
fuelbumzo: the problem is now you have to look again at the fstab file and check out what device it is named ,01:11
bumzojucato: hi01:11
Jucatohi01:12
oemwhat do i do to activate Alien?01:12
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Jucato!alien | oem01:12
ubotuoem: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:12
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oemhmm this app is only in rpm01:12
oemIt is cedega01:12
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oemi would use wine but i cannot find it even though i have verified it is installed01:13
naamuishttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine does this work?01:13
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oemall i want to do is play my gam,e ;(01:14
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ForgeAusyup install wine should01:15
ForgeAusas long as wine is the package name01:15
oemok i will try   ;(01:15
ForgeAusalso filezilla is a windows ftp client that looks like it may work in wine01:15
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ForgeAusI'm not going to make any promises but it seems reasonable that it would work01:16
oemmy game is on cd though and i need to install it will wine install it?01:16
ForgeAusmost windows apps are a hit-or-miss affair when it comes to wine01:16
fueloem : play games on windows, even if you make it to work on linux, it will be slower01:16
JohnFluxmostly a miss :=)01:17
oemdont care pc is fast enough probably wont notice01:17
ForgeAusfuel thats most likely true01:17
ForgeAusbut functionality is more important than speed01:17
ForgeAusat least imho01:17
fuelForgeAus: games need speeeeeed!01:17
LamingtonUT is faster on kubuntu than on XP01:18
ForgeAusthat dpeneds on the game01:18
fuelUT is pretty old01:18
ForgeAussome are strategy and wait for user input rather than relying on sending much at you at once and seeing how much you can deal with01:18
Lamingtonyeah 2004 is01:18
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oemnow see i click on the installer and wine doesnt show up01:19
LamingtonIm not a big gamer01:19
oemi feel like having some cheese with real wine01:19
oemam i missing a command or???01:19
fueloem : wine your.exe01:19
oemok how01:19
fuelpress f801:20
oemi right clicked the .exe and wine is not a choice01:20
oemhit f801:20
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fuelif you get the konsole  , type wine your.exe01:21
oemit brought up my identity01:21
fuel:-?01:21
space_ninjawhere do I set up the computer so it uses UTF-8?01:21
oemoh you want terminal01:21
ForgeAusI need to learn how to get used to Ark! it never seems to work as I expect it to01:21
gentoofan23space_ninja: on your terminal?01:21
space_ninjabut which file?01:21
ForgeAusI guess i'm too used to winzip01:21
space_ninjashould I edit01:21
gentoofan23!utf-801:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:21
oemok terminal is up01:22
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naamuistell me how i install from .tar.gz01:22
fuel!build-essential01:22
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:22
bumzo_Fuel: sorry .. lost connection01:22
fuel!build-essential > naamuis01:22
oemoem@ubuntu:~$  wine'/media/cdrom0/Installer.exe'01:24
oembash: wine/media/cdrom0/Installer.exe: No such file or directory01:24
gentoofan23hmm, from what I see UTF-8 is the default for ubuntu(and kubuntu)01:24
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fueloem : space needed between wine and your program01:24
oemo ok01:25
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fuelbumzo_: its ok01:25
bumzo_Fuel: and my dist is still ''unmounted''01:25
ForgeAusouch01:25
fuelx(01:25
bumzo_fuel: any other recommendations?01:26
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fuelbumzo_: cat your fstab again , and see what device it is not01:26
oemok so anytime i want to install somthing from windows i do this is that correct?01:26
fuelnow01:26
naught101when ever I click a link in konversation or any other kde app, I get a new firefox window with two tabs - %s.com, and the link I've clicked.01:26
fuelwhether its /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb or etc...01:26
naught101where do I fix such a thing?01:26
naamuiswhat's the command to unpack tar.gz?01:26
fuel!tar > naamuis01:27
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Jucatonaught101: Check the settings in System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser?01:27
oemFuel !!! Thank you ...you are a genious!!!!!!!01:27
oemthe damn thing is working LMAO hahaha01:27
oemi think i am going crazy01:28
fueloem : :P . you are mistaken!01:28
naught101Jucato: thought I'd checked that, but no, you're right.01:28
fuelJucato: hello!01:28
Jucatohi fuel01:28
naught101Jucato: is there any way to open it in a new tab in an existing window?01:28
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fuelJucato: yes he is :)01:28
oemno no wine is actualy working01:28
naught101Jucato: inflammable, possibly01:28
Jucatonaught101: you'll have to check Firefox's settings for that, I think...01:29
naught101cool01:29
waylandbilllight him on fire and let's find out. :-D01:29
Jucato:D01:29
fuel:P01:29
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oemwell while i wait for WoW to install i am going to go and find a cig see you in a few thanks again fuel01:30
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bumzofuel: that will be cat/etc/med1/fstab?01:30
fuelbumzo : cat /etc/fstab01:31
bumzo!pastebin01:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:32
bumzofuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10010/01:33
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fuelbumzo : connect your usb drive and "cat /etc/mtab "01:33
bumzofuel: its already connected01:34
fuelmtab bumzo01:34
bumzohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10011/01:35
bumzofuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10011/01:35
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bumzoFUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL01:39
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fuelbumzo : yes !01:40
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bumzofuel: oh thot u had been disconnected01:43
fuelbumzo : yes i was disconnected01:43
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bumzofuel: ok, checked out my mtab?01:46
eilkerhow do u extract a rar file ? when i do right click, there is no extract to folder etc, only there is open with...01:46
c0nv1ctanying got quake3 installed? i get no sound :(01:46
apokryphoseilker: install unrar-nonfree01:46
apokryphosubotu: info unrar-nonfree01:46
Jucatoeilker: you need to install either unrar-free or unrar01:46
ubotuPackage unrar-nonfree does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:46
Jucatoapokryphos: :P01:47
fuelbumzo : sorry , get me the link .01:47
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Jucatoapokryphos: They changed the package names01:47
apokryphosyeah01:47
JucatoDapper and earlier : unrar (free) and unrar-nonfree (multiverse). Edgy: unrar (non-free) and unrar-free... gotta love it :D01:48
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eilkerjucato: is it unrar-free ?01:48
apokryphoseilker: I've seen better success with plain unrar01:48
Jucatoeilker: depends on what you need. but unrar (the one in multiverse) works for more types01:49
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eilkerapokryphos: i have this packages installed, my problem is , when i do right click, there is no options, extract to folder etc, there is open with (ark etc)01:49
Jucatoeilker: what happens when you click on them?01:50
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SchuenemannHey, I suddenly started to get write errors all the time. For example, in firefox: "/tmp/FILENAME could not be saved because the disk, folder or file are write protected. Enable writing and try again or save elsewhere"01:51
ForgeAusdo any gopher sites still exist?01:51
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eilkerjucato: u mean double click ? x archive's window opens)01:51
Schuenemannany ideas on that? it was ok some minutes ag01:51
Schuenemannago*01:51
ForgeAusI found a kewl kio-gopher... problem is its a little late when gopher is basically... gone01:51
Jucatoeilker: x archive? not ark?01:51
ForgeAusits a shame, I used to like gophering01:51
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eilkerjucato: not ark, xarchive, but i use ark to exract it (right click- open with ark)01:52
ForgeAuskio-pim is an interesting idea too!01:52
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Jucatoeilker: ah I only have a single "Extract to" in the context menu. only for .rar files01:53
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Schuenemannthat's happening in konversation, ark... everywhere01:53
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bumzoFuel: lousy connection ... got dc again01:54
eilkerjucato: i had for all types, tar, tar.gz rar, etc, i lost them01:54
bumzoFuel: did u check out my mtab?01:54
fuelbumzo: get me the link01:54
fuelbumzo: brb .01:55
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Jucatoeilker: I have them here, for .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files... are you sure you still have Ark installed?01:55
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eilkerjucato: yes friend01:56
Jucatohm. strange...01:56
bumzoFuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10011/01:56
bumzohi jucato01:56
Jucatoeilker: let me get this straight. when your right-click on any archive format, you don't have that "Extract" menu anymore?01:56
Jucatohi bumzo01:56
eilkerjucato: exactly01:57
SchuenemannHey, I suddenly started to get write errors all the time. For example, in firefox: "/tmp/FILENAME could not be saved because the disk, folder or file are write protected. Enable writing and try again or save elsewhere". What is going on?01:57
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geniiSchuenemann: Are all the write attempts to that directory? Or all over?01:58
Schuenemanngenii, I believe they are01:59
eilkerjucato: i removed and reinstalled ark but no sense01:59
Schuenemannthe temporary ones01:59
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Jucatoeilker: sorry, I have no idea what's wrong...02:00
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eilkerJucato>thanx, i think sth in kde ...02:01
Schuenemanngenii, you got any ideas?02:01
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geniiSchuenemann: so in konsole: sudo chmod 755 /tmp        should do. If not, try 777 but that is a bit too open normally LOL02:02
fuelbumzo:  your ntfs drive is mounted in rw mode ! still you are not able to write ?02:03
Schuenemann755 is what again?02:03
waylandbillrwxr-xr-x02:04
c0nv1ctSchuenemann: rwx/rx/rx02:04
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fuelSchuenemann: its permission :) or try a+x02:04
fuel!ntfs02:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:04
bumzofuse: yup!!!02:06
fuel!ntfs-3g02:06
Schuenemannsame stuff02:06
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SchuenemannI'll restart X02:06
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ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:06
waylandbillsetting /tmp to 755 would be not good though. it's owned by root and nothing would be able to write to it without root privs.02:06
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NSCAD_Nathanj #pitivi02:10
NSCAD_Nathanwhoops02:10
Ash-Fox!envy02:11
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia02:11
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Ash-FoxI just discovered envy, it's neat =)02:11
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eilkerjucato: i have it again:)02:14
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Jucatoeilker: ooh nice02:14
eilkerjucato: i installed kdeaddons....02:15
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Jucatoeilker: hm...02:16
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Jucatowell at least it works02:17
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Smurphywhat is envy ?02:19
Smurphyah - got it ..02:19
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bumzoFuel: u thee02:22
c0nv1ctanyone know a good linux gaming channel, on this network or efnet?02:23
xcidar? ;02:23
xcidarsry02:23
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geniic0nv1ct: #linux-gamers.net is on tis network, I dunno how good it may be02:25
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BluesKaj'Morning Folks :)02:27
xBillhi02:27
|toketin|hi02:28
|toketin|can any one hel me?02:28
xBilldepends on your problem ...02:28
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BluesKajhi xBill02:29
|toketin|look this image02:29
|toketin|is a my screen02:29
|toketin|http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1083/schermata1uf3.th.png02:29
|toketin|i don't know how there are these black lines02:29
|toketin|also on firefox download02:29
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|toketin|do you know how can i resolve?02:30
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|toketin|??02:31
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|toketin|http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1uf3.png02:32
xBillwe'd need to have an error message or a logfile if possible, problems can be caused by nearly everything ...02:33
|toketin|ok02:33
Jucato|toketin|: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> in the Widge Color dropdown list, select Alternative Background in Lists02:33
Jucatoand change the color02:33
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acemohow can i get my bluetooth headset to work under kubuntu?02:34
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fdovingacemo: the snd-bt-sco module works for my plantronics discovery 640.02:36
oemi cannot get openGL to work on my Nvidia card02:36
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oemtried to install the directx9 through wine but terminal says it cannot open the gl02:37
acemooem, did u install nvidia drivers yet? http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html02:37
Jucato!nvidia | oem02:38
ubotuoem: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:38
oemthrough adept02:38
oemi went to nvidia got the driver just unsure hot to install it02:38
Jucatooem: nvidia-glx?02:38
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oemNVIDIA-LINUX-x86-1.0-93631-pkg1.run02:39
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fyrmedicHow do I mount my SD card reader?02:40
BluesKajthere has to be a readme text file in the same folder , oem02:40
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acemofdoving, how does the snd-bt-sco works?02:41
BluesKajor at least install instructions on the site , oem02:41
oemuh no it is a binary when clicked the editor comes up02:42
ziyunGood night,everyone!02:42
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ForgeAushmmm I been using Kubuntu and Xwindows for a while now and I still don't understand Xwindows/XFree/X1102:43
oemthe binary driver how to page you posted yeah i followed it and the gpu crashed i could not do anything and had to reinstall KUBUNTU02:43
ForgeAusI guess its just going to remain a mystery to me02:43
fdovingacemo: you load a kernel module (driver), that can talk to the device. then you run some magic tool that connects to it.02:44
ziyunToday I begin to use the kubuntu for the first time and meet much difficuilty.02:45
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acemofdoving: i like magic :)02:45
oemi am just tried of getting sent to the same link all the time that i follow and do and then crashes my system02:45
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ziyunwhy the Amorak cann't play music? Boring............02:46
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ziyunand I cannot listen music and watch film. what can I do ?02:47
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geniiWhat, no amarok defenders around? ROFL I thought they'd be jumping out of the woodwork02:47
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oemwhat i would like to see is a user freindly front end driver installer02:47
ziyunI wish some friend can help me02:48
eilker!ksayit02:48
ubotuksayit: a frontend for the KDE Text-to-Speech system. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 225 kB, installed size 824 kB02:48
oemmine worked after i installed the updates i had to play around with the system before i figured it out and now dont remeber02:48
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mirkovalitalian'02:49
mirkoval?02:49
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BluesKajoem, check this site for install instructions : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/02:49
sys0110how do i update my package tress ?02:50
geniiziyun try from konsole:  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:50
ziyunrefresh your source.list02:50
mirkovalitalian^?02:50
sys0110how?02:50
ziyunThanks a lot!02:50
mirkovalitalian chat02:50
mirkovalwhere is?02:50
Jucato!it | mirkoval02:50
ubotumirkoval: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:50
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mirkovalsi  quello che sto cercando di fare02:51
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oemhow do i know the letter or name of my X server?02:52
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sys0110how do i update my package tress ?02:52
sys0110how do i update my package trees ?02:52
sys0110how do i update my package lists ?02:52
geniisys0110 from konsole: sudo apt-get update02:52
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sys0110ok02:53
sys0110ty02:53
ziyunIt is pity. The server tell me that the package has been broken.02:53
geniioem you mean the screen it is running on?02:53
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oemnevermind it wanted me to name the x server for reference02:53
sys0110so why when i make apt-get install xchat    it says cou;ding find pachage ?02:54
sys0110so why when i make apt-get install xchat    it says coulding find package ?02:54
geniiziyun the libxine-extracodecs package??02:54
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c0nv1ctsys0110: xchat is in the repos02:56
ziyunit tells that libmad0 is not installable02:56
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geniiziyun Odd, that file is in main repo. Should not need twiddling with sources.list02:57
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bumzofuel: are u there?02:58
ziyunIt is time to go to bed. Thank genli. Hope to chat next time.02:58
geniiziyun What version you have? Dapper Edgy etc02:59
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oemcould i get the nvidia driver link again the hot link the last one i got?03:01
Tm_T!nvidia03:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:02
oemnope the other one03:02
bumzo!fuel03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
bumzolol03:02
oemthe other worked i just have to follow the rest of the steps03:02
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oemplease someone scroll up and grab the link please???03:03
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geniioem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/03:04
BluesKajoem, check this site for install instructions : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/03:05
geniiLOL03:05
BluesKajhehe, hey genii03:05
oemyes that one03:05
oemthank thankyou03:05
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geniiBluesKaj Hiya :)03:05
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Ash-FoxIt's like the 4th time after I've done a update and it removed 'ipv6' from the blacklist03:07
Ash-FoxThat's really annoying.03:07
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fdovingAsh-Fox: that's because you edit existing files and accept to overwrite your changes when you upgrade.03:07
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Ash-FoxI don't remember ever being prompted.03:08
geniiAlmost worth it to write a little script that echos the line back in LOL03:08
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fdovingAsh-Fox: you can forexampel make /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv603:08
fdovingAsh-Fox: if you add your ipv6 stuff to that file (which doesn't belong to any package), it's not touched during upgrades.03:08
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Ash-Foxfdoving, ah, I see, thanks.03:09
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geniifdoving Elegant solution btw03:09
ushabai'm looking at the sound how-to for ubuntu, and i've made it to the part about alsamixer settings, which appear to be correct, yet still i've got neither input or output03:09
ushabaanyone a sound guru?03:09
Ash-FoxIt's really annoying that KDE has weird resolving issues when ipv6 is loaded in the kernel.03:09
oemwhat does this mean couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:10
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ushabaany sound gurus pm me with ideas about what might have made my sound stop working in edgy03:10
ushabainput has never worked successfully, and sound stopped when trying to get mic input working03:10
jhutchinsAsh-Fox: All the distros have that behavior.  They try to resolv a domain name to IPv6 until it times out, then resolv it via IPv403:10
jhutchinsushaba: All I can tell you is that you're not alone, we need people to file bugreports.03:11
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Ash-Foxjhutchins, I still don't get 'host not found' issues in non-kde applications.03:11
BluesKajAsh-Fox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv403:11
oemdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p                                    rocess03:11
fdovingAsh-Fox: i have ipv6 loaded, it works like a charm here.03:11
ushabawell03:11
ushabai'm not sure it's a bug or a setting issue03:11
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ushabai figure you shouldn't file bug reports until you're sure it's not your own damn fault03:12
ushabahaha03:12
BluesKajif you use FF , the above site has a fix for slow surfing03:12
crimsunushaba: did you just file 91655?03:12
ushabano03:12
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, I tend to just blacklist 'ipv6', stops all of that :P03:12
jhutchinsushaba: SoundBlaster?03:13
ushabai'm pretty sure most problems i have with ubuntu are user error03:13
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ushabaonboard nvidia on an asus m2npv-vm mobo03:13
BluesKajyes, Ash-Fox, it's a blacklist procedure as well03:13
geniioem try sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat          to see whats using it03:13
jhutchinsushaba: Even if it's user error, the frequency with which we see "My soundblaster stopped working" here indicates a problem.03:13
ushabai've actually got another sound card too, on the south bridge, but i haven't even started with that yet...03:13
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ushabayes03:13
ushabai've seen other nvidia errors on the forums03:14
ushabaso i suppose i am not alone03:14
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jhutchinsushaba: I recommend disabling the on-board sound in the BIOS before proceeding.  Getting both working is advanced stuff.03:14
ushabawell, the other is also on-board03:14
ushabait's just got inputs connected to the front panel of the case03:14
ushabai think i'll settle for just one though03:15
ushabathe nvidia03:15
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BluesKajoem, try, 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:15
ushabai can get you the name of the sound card03:15
ushabahold on03:15
oemok03:15
crimsunushaba: use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems, and tell me the pastebin url you use03:15
ushabacard 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog] 03:15
ushaba  Subdevices: 1/103:15
ushaba  Subdevice #0: subdevice #003:15
ushabacard 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital] 03:15
ushaba  Subdevices: 1/103:15
ushaba  Subdevice #0: subdevice #003:15
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ushabayeah, i'm looking at that site right now, can you recommend a pastebin?03:16
ushabai don't use any yet...03:16
ushabaso green...03:16
crimsunoh, I can tell you without knowing anything additional that it's likely fixed in feisty03:16
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BluesKaj!pastebin | ushaba03:16
ubotuushaba: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:16
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ushabaok03:16
ushabacool03:16
crimsungranted the fixes aren't in a released kernel yet03:16
crimsunthey're in my git branches and have been pushed03:16
ushabait looks to me as it's detecting the same soundcard twice though03:17
oemok i did that and it asked for the psw and then went back to the curser03:17
ushabawhich implies that it's a conflict03:17
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ushabahold on03:17
geniioem So it lists nothing as using the file?03:17
crimsunushaba: no, you're misparsing the output03:17
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oemright03:17
ushabawhat do you mean?03:17
crimsunushaba: note that device 0 subdevice 0 is different from device 0 subdevice 103:17
ushabaah, yes03:17
oemnow i just shut down and rebooted so it may have changed03:17
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BluesKajyes , type in the pw , oem03:18
ushabai have no idea what that means though03:18
ushabahaha03:18
crimsunushaba: most alsa devices have a secondary subdevice for spdif03:18
oemi did and then that is when it went back to the curser03:18
ushabait's currently set to 4 channel mode03:18
crimsunushaba: that is, if the hardware offers it.03:18
ushabai can also set it to 2 and 6 channel03:18
ushabaok03:18
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jhutchinsushaba: Are you actually using the spdif output?03:19
geniioem what package was it you were trying to install again?03:19
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ushabahold on03:19
stavfxalright so i'm back to my first problem, i'm using an old Creative 128bit PCI sound card (also have an onboard one) and there's no sound coming from either. can someone help?03:19
oemthe Nvidia drivers off of this page http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/03:19
ushabai feel rather retarded, but which is spdif output?03:20
oembecause i dont know how to install the driver i downloaded from the nvidia stie03:20
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oembrb sec03:20
myTB|Tanuvaushaba: optical output03:20
BluesKajgenii , oem is trying to install downloaded nvidia drivers03:20
oemit is the updated driver for kinux03:20
ushabahow do i determine if i am using spdif output?03:20
oemlinux03:20
ushabathe sound worked before, but does not now, and nothing in the back of the computer has been changed03:21
oemi cannot get open gl to render03:21
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BluesKajoem, is there no instruction page on the nvidia site?03:21
ushabastill plugged into the same jack03:21
oemnot realy not anything i understand03:21
myTB|Tanuvahmm... have the right kernel modules been loaded?03:21
jhutchinsushaba: You have a digital spdif cable connected to the spdif port.03:21
jhutchinsushaba: You have purchased and are using speakers that use an spdif connection.03:21
ushabais this inside the computers?03:22
jhutchinsushaba: Try setting it off.03:22
ushabaor outside?03:22
jhutchinsushaba: Outside.03:22
jhutchinsushaba: Try setting it off.03:22
myTB|Tanuvaits a high quality optical output used by philips and sony03:22
ushabai have speakers attached at the back to a lime green slot03:22
ushabathey worked perfectly before03:22
geniioem OK. So it is the line sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx     that is giving you the /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked error? if so try: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx.deb03:22
crimsunStavFX: tell me the pastebin url you used for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems03:22
oembrbsec http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9631.html    driver page03:22
ushabaand stopped after i started screwing around with skype and sound settings03:22
ushabaso hold on03:23
dromeri all, I'm trying X forwarding again using Xming and putty, before this worked perfectly, but recently I get Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server03:23
crimsunushaba: tell me the pastebin url you used for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems03:23
ushabai'll do the pastebin thing03:23
ushabaok03:23
myTB|Tanuvaushaba: maybe alsa just got killed?03:23
ushabait's possible03:23
BluesKajoem, here's one that you use and learn from as well, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy03:23
dromercan anyone tell me what setting has changed that I can't X forward anymore?03:23
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HA!Fuse03:24
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:24
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myTB|Tanuvadoesnt ubuntu support ntfs-3g?03:24
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geniidromer Is the goal to use a remote desktop like vnc or so?03:24
BluesKajyes  myTB|Tanuva03:25
dromergenii: no, not remote desktop: X forwarding03:25
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StavFXoem: um...pastebin url?03:25
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dromergenii: run a local x-server and "stream" the program over a network to display on this local computer03:26
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geniiIsn't xming an X emulator for windoze??03:26
StavFXcrimsun: what's pastebin url?03:27
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TonrenAbout 90% of the time when I log in, my kicker panel crashes.  It might be an XGL/Beryl issue, but I don't think so.  All of my systray icons appear in the upper left corner of my desktop, and trying to run "kicker" again results in a pop-up dialog "Examining file process: .trash", though kicker doesn't actually start.  Has anyone heard of this before?03:27
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dromergenii: no, it's an X_server_03:28
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geniidromer So as I gather you are trying to forward an X session off an ubuntu box to some remote Windoze box then using xming there?03:29
dromeryes03:30
ushabathe ubuntu pastebin keeps timing out03:30
dromerit worked fine before, but now I suddenly get this error03:30
ushabaany other pastbins to recommend?03:31
myTB|Tanuvathe french national assembly now migrates to ubuntu :) - http://www.heise.de/open/news/meldung/86578/from/rss09 (german site...)03:31
myTB|Tanuvaushaba: www.rafb.de was it iirc03:31
myTB|Tanuvano03:31
compilerwriterDear God the French government is going to ruin Ubuntu for me.03:31
myTB|Tanuvaushaba: http://rafb.net/paste/03:32
ushabahmm03:32
ushabaclearly in german03:32
geniidromer sorry, error is? (thinking something now perhaps to do with ssh conf file X forwarding settings)03:32
ushabawhich i barely understand03:32
dromergenii: Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server03:32
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myTB|Tanuvabut you can paste your outputs there, cant you?03:32
myTB|Tanuvaah no03:33
compilerwritergenii I have just had to mess around with ssh what do you need to know03:33
myTB|Tanuva<< confused03:33
geniicompilerwriter: I think he is being refused access because X forwareding is disallowed in his sshd file03:34
jullei've been trying to unzip a tar.bz2 file with Ark. But without luck. Is there any other program i can try unzipping with ?03:34
geniicompilerwriter: (dromer)03:34
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ushabaalright03:34
ushabathis is output for the first three03:34
ushabahttp://rafb.net/p/breBBf62.html03:34
compilerwriterdromer what do you have going on?03:34
c0nv1ctjulle: what error do you get?03:34
geniidromer maybe check for X11Forwarding yes03:35
geniiX11DisplayOffset 1003:35
geniiX11UseLocalhost yes03:35
geniiIn your /etc/ssh/sshd_config03:35
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geniiSorry for multiline paste ops :)03:35
dromercompilerwriter: I'm on a windows-pc atm, running xming and putty, before I could forward X just fine, run programs remotely etc, just now I get this error03:35
oemi have to go and pay the rent i will brb03:36
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ushabahmm03:36
ushabai can't tell what i am looking at in this pastebin03:36
compilerwriterI am in on an XP box with xming doing XDCP to my ubuntu box dromer03:36
dromergenii: all set correctly, I haven't changed anything to my sshd_config03:36
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dromercompilerwriter: xdcp?03:37
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compilerwriterXDMCP I mean dromer.03:38
compilerwriterDromer do you have xlaunch03:39
jullec0nv1ct: it just hangs.03:39
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dromercompilerwriter: I think so yes .. I have Xming running fine, I'm running iceweasel from my debian-box atm just fine03:39
c0nv1ctjulle: try using the command line, tar -xvf filename03:40
geniidromer Make sure you are not trying to use both screens for the debian box and the windoze box eg: 10:003:40
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compilerwriterdromer I am trying to find the page that helped me get it up and running.03:40
jullec0nv1ct: ok thx03:40
ushabaalright sound gurus, i've pasted the output of the sound debugging steps to http://rafb.net/p/breBBf62.html and http://rafb.net/p/MDlnv914.html03:41
CVirus!skype03:41
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:41
dromergenii: I first tryed the ubuntu-box03:41
ushabaquite a lot of text to sort through, and it is picking up both sound cards at some level, even if only one is configured, i am only interested in the HDA one though03:41
jullec0nv1ct: that worked. inside this tar.bz2 file there is a .gz file what should i type after " tar -??? filename "03:42
jullec0nv1ct: to unzip that .gz file03:43
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c0nv1ctjulle: you can try ark with it, if not, use tar -xzvf03:43
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jullec0nv1ct: thank you very much03:43
Jucato-xjvf if it's a .tar.bz203:43
c0nv1ctJucato: whats the 'j' do, i never use it and it still works03:44
c0nv1ctfor bz203:44
Jucatoj is for bz2, z is for gz03:44
Jucatoafaik03:44
c0nv1ctJucato: oh, i never put in a j, and it still works for bz203:44
TonrenAbout 90% of the time when I log in, my kicker panel crashes. It might be an XGL/Beryl issue, but I don't think so.  All of my systray icons appear in the upper left corner of my desktop, and trying to run "kicker" again results in a pop-up dialog "Examining file process: .trash", though kicker doesn't actually start.  Has anyone heard of this before?03:44
compilerwriterdromer perhaps this will help you sort things out. http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php03:44
c0nv1ctTonren: seems like a problem with your trash can maybe03:45
Tonrenc0nv1ct: That's a good guess, but I don't see how it could possibly be the issue.03:45
c0nv1ctTonren: try removing the trash applet in the config for kicker, see if it starts up03:46
StavFXalright i got some output on my sound problem, http://rafb.net/p/oKbxjK52.html  can someone help?03:46
Tonrenc0nv1ct: That's the thing; I'm having a lot of trouble testing it, because 50% of the time it starts up perfectly!03:46
Tonrenc0nv1ct: It appears to be random.03:46
c0nv1ctTonren: thats weird03:46
Tonrenc0nv1ct: Quite.03:46
ushabastill got my sound issues with no input or output, and the output of the debugging stuff is at http://rafb.net/p/breBBf62.html and http://rafb.net/p/MDlnv914.html03:46
ushabathe trash can thing happened to me a few days ago03:47
c0nv1ctTonren: does it ever crash if beryl is not running?03:47
ushabai was trying to clean up several old files03:47
ushabaand it just kept creating massive .Trash files on my external drives03:47
ushabait was quite frustrating03:47
Tonrenc0nv1ct: I haven't tested that extensively, but it never did it *before* I had Beryl, so it *could* be Beryl.03:47
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ushababeryl is not the problem03:47
Tonrenc0nv1ct: I'm wondering if there's a log file somewhere that I can look at.03:47
Tonrenushaba: That's a first!03:47
compilerwriterdromer that page any help?03:47
ushabasince i stay as far away from those things as possible03:47
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c0nv1ctTonren: its very possible its a beryl issue03:47
Tonrenushaba: What do you think is my problem?03:48
ushabait might be, but i am afraid of 3d03:48
Tonrenc0nv1ct: I agree.03:48
ushabano idea03:48
Tonrenushaba: Well then how do you know it's not a Beryl problem?03:48
ushababut the deletion of the applet, deletion of the .trash file in /home/user/.kde/..../.trash03:48
ushabadid it03:48
julledo execute a .pl file what do i write?03:48
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ushabawell, i don't, but i am saying it might not be a beryl problem03:48
geniidromer Somehow I think the xming should be trying 127.0.0.1:0.0 or localhost:0.0 instead of localhost:*10*.003:48
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ushabai was too gung ho just then03:48
Tonrenushaba: Oh.  Haha, yeah, I mean, it could go either way.03:48
ushabait could be a beryl problem, but it might not be since i had exactly the same thing even though i was afraid of beryl03:49
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geniidromer Maybe you put 10 instead of zero into putty03:50
bumzo_jucato: do u know anything on mounting ntfs03:50
Jucato!ntfs | bumzo_03:50
ubotubumzo_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:50
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ushababeryl is terrifying03:50
Jucatobumzo_: other than that, I use the Disks & Filesystems module in System Settings03:50
ushabai'll wait till it's stable, i think03:50
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ushabaso, any sound gurus still awake?03:51
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bumzo_jucato: i have done everything .,... but i have just one incy bitsy problem with having write rights with a ntfs exteranl HDD03:51
Jucatobumzo_: ah.. that's because you can't/shouldn't write directly to NTFS03:52
bumzo_jucato: elaborate03:52
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Jucatobumzo_: writing to NTFS directly is dangerous, because the implementation of the NTFS filesystem is proprietary and unknown.03:53
bumzo_jucato: any idea how i can write ''indirectly''?03:53
c0nv1ctbumzo: i wouldnt write to NTFS if i were you03:53
Jucatobumzo_: you will have to make use of indirect methods like ntfs-3g or fuse03:53
Jucato!ntfs-3g | bumzo_03:53
ubotubumzo_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:53
Jucato!fuse | bumzo_03:53
ubotubumzo_: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:53
geniiNTFS is a huge bottomless black hole that only M$soft knows where the bottom is03:54
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c0nv1ctbumzo: use fat32 if you want cross-platform read/write03:54
dromergenii: no I didn't put a 10 instead of 003:55
geniic0nv1ct: Actually ext3 shared and an ext3 driver for windoze is best. No 4Gb filesize limit03:55
dromergenii: before it evem worked withouth entering 127.0.0.1 or localhost, on my debian-machine it works just fine03:55
geniidromer Ah, OK. Because the error you pasted had 10.0 as the first X screen instead of the more normal 0.003:56
dromerthe problem is definatly not my xserver or putty03:57
dromerI don's understand, it worked just fine before :(03:57
StavFXi'm still stuck with no sound, i just installed Kubuntu and there's no sound coming from either of my cards03:57
c0nv1ctgenii: i never tested the ext3 driver for windows, it didnt like my x64 XP03:57
ComputerHermitStavFX  what kind of soundcard you have?03:58
geniic0nv1ct: Works fine on my old p3 and my other turion system (both XP/2K dual boot)03:58
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StavFXmy onboard i'm not sure about, something from intel i think.  and i got a Creative 128bit sound blaster03:58
StavFXPCI ofcourse03:58
BluesKajc0nv1ct, I use ntfs-3g and fuse to read and write to the windoze partition and vice versa ...what fat32 ?03:59
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geniibumzo_ At any rate if you are interested in the windoze ext3 driver, http://www.fs-driver.org/03:59
BluesKajwhy fat32 ?03:59
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c0nv1ctBluesKaj: writing to ntfs in linux is risky, fat32 doesnt have any problems03:59
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geniiBluesKaj: Well, it is the simplest to set up and both OS need no special things to work it. But you can't of course put anything like dvd iso images since inherent fat32 4Gb limit and so on. That is why I say ext3 is better04:00
StavFXComputerHermit: my onboard i'm not sure about, something from intel i think.  and i got a Creative 128bit sound blaster. what can i do?04:00
ComputerHermitwell I have no sound eather and my sound card isent supported I been useing ubuntu for awhile now and I think Iam going to go use suse becaue it supported my board more but I like to spend$ and Iam tinking of buying a soundcard but I dont know witch one to get because this distribution isent bad once you uninstall the remote stuff04:01
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ComputerHermit:-)04:02
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ComputerHermitI dont use any file shareing04:02
ComputerHermiton my network04:02
StavFXwhere can i see if my card is supported?04:03
ComputerHermitgoogle it04:03
ComputerHermitthis is what I done04:03
Dr_williscompilerwriter,  some of the Creative cards are very well supported.. BUT that latest Xi-FI cards are NOT supported at this time04:03
dromerhow can I remotely restart my sshd?04:03
Dr_willisAudigy 2 cards are good value.04:03
StavFXhow do i change the card Kubuntu uses?04:03
Dr_willisdromer,  call a friend and have them hit the reset button? :)04:03
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c0nv1ctdromer: i dont think you can, unless you can actually ssh/telnet in04:04
dromerDr_willis: hehe, this will not do ;)04:04
geniidromer You will get disconnected of course but just sudo /etc/init.d/sshd   will do it04:05
dromerc0nv1ct: I'm ssh-ed in right now, but I need a new config to be activated, following http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php I've deducted I need an extra option X11UseLocalhost yes  but I guess I have te restart the sshd to activate it :P04:05
geniisorry, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart04:05
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c0nv1ctdromer: do what genii said, and hope your changes work and sshd restarts :)04:06
dromerhmm, I don't even get disconnected :P04:06
dromerweird04:06
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dromerdamnit, I still can't x-forward :(04:09
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dromerbaah, forget it, I'll try this another time :S04:10
c0nv1ctdromer: i'm not familiar with x-forward, is it a remote desktop tool?04:10
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Dr_willisX has a feature where you can connect to a remote box, and run apps on it and have them appear locally.04:11
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ForgeAusjucato whats this mean?04:11
ForgeAuschecking for KDE... configure: error:04:11
ForgeAusin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:11
ForgeAusSo, check this please and use another prefix!04:11
JucatoForgeAus: install kdelibs4-dev04:11
geniidromer consider switching to freenx LOL04:11
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bibeknamaste to all04:22
bibekhow do i actually install sth.ttf font in linux ingeneral?04:22
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fdovingbibek: copy it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ if all users needs access to it. else copy it to ~/.fonts/ (~ is an alias to your homedir, so /home/username/.fonts/)04:23
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fdovingbbl.. dinner.04:24
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abattoirbibek: or just rt. click ->Actions->Install font ;)04:25
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bibekhi guys thanks a lot04:25
bibekbut im not always in kde :)04:25
bibekabout the installing in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ or ~/.fonts04:25
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bibekonce i've copied that, will it work instantly?04:25
ushabai am going to bug the alsa people for a while04:26
ushababack ina bit04:26
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bibekalso04:26
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jack_hi, when i install the realplay10gold plugin it asks me for the full pathname of the directory where i want to install it, on the website itself it doesnt specify that; so where should i install it too?04:28
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bibekwow it does work instantly :) thank you fdoving, abattoir04:29
abattoirbibek: aah, sorry, missed your question04:29
bibekmy fonts in Openoffice looks weird04:29
bibekno antialising i guess04:30
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bibekbut in other programs works fine??04:30
bibekjack_, are u root?04:31
jack_bibek: no04:31
bibekjack_, if ur installing as a normal user, the safest bet is to install in ~/bin04:31
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jack_bibek: should i do it as root? it didnt ask me for root privileges04:32
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bibeknop04:32
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bibekmyself, i've installed on /home/bibek/bin/RealPlayer04:32
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geniijack_ I think the realplayer already in the repos is version 1004:33
compilerwriterdromer did you get sorted out.04:33
waylandbill  /usr/local/bin/ could've been a good place to put it, but I thought there was a package for it already in the multiverse04:33
waylandbill!realplayer04:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:34
waylandbill!info realplayer04:34
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:34
geniiwaylandbill Weird, I thought so too04:34
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Admiral_Chicagoreal player is in the canoncial held repository afaik04:34
jack_genii: yes, but my livestream doesnt find it so i wanted to do it again manually following the webradios how to04:35
waylandbillalmost everything is podcasts now anyway I thought. :-)04:35
Admiral_Chicagobibek: yep, that is a know issues afaik04:35
bibekAdmiral_Chicago, let me google04:36
bibekAdmiral_Chicago, but any quick help?04:36
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nysosymdamn i hate vmware player, is it impossible to install them completely and is it impossible to remove them... because they can't install the network bridge corectly... :-(04:37
Admiral_Chicagonot sure if there is a fix04:37
geniijack_ /opt/RealPlayer    or equiv should be the place then04:37
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Admiral_Chicagobibek: the openoffice.org-kde package may help you out04:38
bibekAdeman_kitchen, thanks, let me download it04:38
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jack_genii i get the error message no appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player04:40
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geniijack_ You executed the file you downloaded from them? Or just put it in that path ?04:41
geniishould be some .bin file that you sudo chmod +x to then execute04:42
jack_i did yes04:42
jack_then i did./...04:42
jack_but i was not sure about the path04:42
nysosymcan anyone help me please, vmware-playere won't be removed...04:42
jack_so which should i use then?/usr/local/bin?04:43
nysosymhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8257/04:43
geniiNo, just /usr/bin04:44
geniijack_ You can test if it works from commandline by just: realplay04:44
jack_genii yes, but which path yours or waylandbill suggestion?04:45
compilerwritergenii did dromer get his stuff sorted out?04:45
geniijack_ All the reference i have found says either /opt/RealPlayer or /usr/bin04:45
geniicompilerwriter: I think he gave up for now and went for a nap :) I suggested he look into freenx04:46
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jack_genii i guess the prob i didnt use the realplayer before04:46
jack_genii but its there i dont need it, thats cool04:46
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waylandbillit shouldn't matter where you put it as long as it's in the path04:47
compilerwriterI will continue to try to find the web page that helped me get it all set up.  It was very good.  I just wish I had bookmarked it.04:47
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geniicompilerwriter: I'm hoping someone will package freenx soon. It is very good and can do vnc protocol as well04:49
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compilerwriterxming will vnc I believe.04:50
jack_genii: i still get the message but the player is there04:50
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compilerwriterAnyone know the difference between /usr/bin/zsh and /bin/zsh?04:51
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geniijack_ It may not work from in the web browser, perhaps try it. Earlier error you said was about not being able to use it as embedded player and so on04:52
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geniido a diff on em LOL04:52
jack_but genii how can i use then a livestream radio from the web?04:52
geniijack_ Try from the browser first to see if it works or not. If it does,good. If not we deal with that04:53
NSCAD_NathanWhere is the option to allow dragging windows to the edge to change the desktop?  I can't seem to find it04:53
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jean-benoit!fr04:54
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:54
jack_genii i did, i still get the error, only now it says transferring sth in the pop up window of the stream, but the messies come again and no sound04:54
Admiral_Chicagocompilerwriter: /bin/zsh is system wide04:55
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sound_fxCan anyone tell me how to configure how to close my lid on my laptop to suspend?04:56
bumzooh no04:56
bumzois fuse here?04:56
Tm_T!java04:56
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:56
geniijack_ OK, what dir did you end up installing it in?04:57
bumzoi need help in mounting my flash04:57
jack_genii when i discovered it was in the system i didnt04:57
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geniijack_ OK, delete /opt/RealPlayer if you installed it there before. Then re-run the binary with sudo./thefilename.bin     (in the dir it is in) and tell it to use /usr/bin04:59
bumzo!patebin04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
bumzo!pastebin04:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:59
mneisenHi, is there any tool to create diffs of *really* LARGE files (~3-5 GB)? If so, is there a companion program to apply such patches?05:00
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geniimneisen I'm pretty sure the standard diff/patch tools can make large files to 16Gb05:01
waylandbillmneisen: diff and patch should be able to handle that.05:01
bumzoPLEASE HELP http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10024/05:02
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bumzoare these chat sessions saved?05:02
jack_genii its not there, which says /usr/bin/realplay05:02
bumzoi'd like to retrieve an ealrier chat session with a guy called fuse05:02
mneisengenii: waylandbill: the problem is that diff takes up lots of RAM (up to 3G) and then quits ... when swap space runs out ...05:03
Jucato!logs05:03
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:03
Jucatobumzo: ^^05:03
waylandbillbumzo: did you format the flash disk with a filesystem the kernel recognizes?05:03
mneisenIs there any option to maybe tell diff not to keep the diff'ed files in AM?05:03
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waylandbillmneisen: maybe --speed-large-files ?05:04
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Admiral_Chicagoblue|palm: looking now05:04
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mneisenwaylandbill: already tried that, to no avail... :-(05:04
waylandbillmneisen: these binary files?05:04
bumzoits FAT sustem waylandbill05:05
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mneisenwaylandbill: No, text files.05:05
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waylandbillmneisen: you should be able to write a small C program that uses disk rather than memory. if there isn't something already.05:08
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sound_fxDo you have to configure suspend options via console? or is there a graphical interface I'm not seeing?05:09
mneisenwaylandbill: I'm looking for that little something ... :_D05:09
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bibekwhy doesn't ark contain the option to select compression level and passwords??05:10
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bibekits pretty strange but i haven't seen a good gui archive manager :(05:11
ubuntulol05:11
waylandbillmneisen: another option is to split the files and diff the portions.05:11
ubuntuI have a problem, propeller heads05:11
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blue|palmAdmiral_Chicago: sorry?05:11
ubuntuMy brand new slackware 10.2 installation won't see my usb mouse/keyboard, they both channel through one usb  cord, and i told it that i had a usb mouse during the installation05:12
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mneisenwaylandbill: Yes, I will try that option (using cut). Nevertheless, thank you very much. :_D05:12
waylandbillbibek: if you need special circumstances like setting compression level, then using the command line wouldn't be that difficulty05:12
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c0nv1ctubuntu: you do realize you are asking this in a ubuntu channel right?05:12
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jack_genii it works fine now,i just reinstalled in synaptic05:13
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geniijack_ Ah, good :)05:13
ubuntui never got synaptic05:13
ubuntui prefer adept05:13
clivewho am I?05:13
blue|palm Hi, can anyone tell me if OO 2.1 is in the ubuntu repos yet? Or must i download it from the OO website?05:14
ubuntui don't thinnk OO2.1 is in the repository yet05:14
geniimneisen diff has -H   switch for large files but I dunno if it will have any effect on how much swap gets used05:14
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ubuntui'll check right now05:14
DaSkreechcrimsun: ping05:14
mneisengenii: I already tried sdiff - same problem if later.05:14
ubuntuyo bluepalm, i'm lookin for ya05:14
blue|palmubuntu: if not, is there a reason for it not being in the repos?05:14
blue|palmubuntu: thanks05:15
waylandbill!info openoffice.org05:15
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB05:15
geniimneisen Well, the dirty fix would be to just make some humungous swap partition or disable swap entirely05:15
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ubuntuno we're still at version 2.0 in the repos05:16
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DaSkreech!info koffice05:17
ubotukoffice: KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 76 kB05:17
geniimneisen: If were me I'd likely try disable swap as first tactic05:17
DaSkreech!info openoffice.org feisty05:17
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0~rc3~oof680m10-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB05:17
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ubuntu!infoo  dmake05:17
ubuntu!info dmake05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infoo  dmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
ubuntuawwwwww05:17
ubotudmake: make utility used to build OpenOffice.org. In component main, is extra. Version 1:4.4-2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 272 kB05:17
conrad_is kubuntu studio coming out too?05:18
fuelany idea how to download a directory or a folder from a webpage (recursively) ?05:18
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DaSkreechconrad_: Hmm?05:18
fuelfor example java doc ?05:18
ubuntu!divx4linux05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about divx4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
DaSkreechfuel: try wget05:18
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geniifuel wget with recursive switch05:18
DaSkreechor keget05:18
ubuntu!info divx4linux05:18
DaSkreechkget05:18
ubotuPackage divx4linux does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:18
conrad_DaSkreech: it looks really good! ubuntustudio.org05:18
mneisengenii: The problem is that diff needs *more* RAM not less.05:18
fuelDaSkreech: i have kget installed, how to use it recursively ?05:18
waylandbillmneisen: diff'ing multigigabyte files is going to be very, very time consuming no matter how you handle it.05:18
ubuntuhey where can i get divx4linux?05:18
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mneisenwaylandbill: yes i know ... :-(05:19
c0nv1ct!codecs | ubuntu05:19
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:19
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DaSkreechfuel: I actually don't know :) I would guess that it can do it though05:19
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fuel:)05:19
DaSkreechfuel: Check shortcuts maybe?05:19
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livingdaylightDaSkreech: not heard of ubuntu studio project?05:19
DaSkreechlivingdaylight: Nope05:20
waylandbillmneisen: if you need to do it repeatedly, you almost need to track what is getting changed while changing rather than determining afterwards.05:20
ubuntu!codecs | BSD05:20
ubotuBSD: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:20
DaSkreechIt's a movie?05:20
geniimneisen I'd say disabling swap would make the system crawl during the process but it should complete. It should write cunks aout instead of stockpiling the data on swap drive.05:20
livingdaylightDaSkreech: #ubuntustudio05:20
genii*chunks* not cunks05:20
ubuntu!info gcjj05:20
ubuntuoops05:21
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ubuntu!info gcj05:21
ubotugcj: The GNU Java compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 48 kB05:21
waylandbillgenii: it wouldn't cause system instability when the ram is consumed?05:21
ubuntu!info jdk05:21
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ubuntu!info x05:21
ubuntuhaha05:21
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ubuntu!info x1105:21
ubotuPackage x11 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:22
livingdaylightDaSkreech: its a bit quite over at #ubuntustudio, lol05:22
geniiwaylandbill The memory management is usually superb in debian/ubuntu. i should think it would fill up, dump the results it had so far then repeat until the output file is done.05:22
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DaSkreechlivingdaylight: Shhh recording in progress?05:22
geniiubuntu Please, if you must pester the ubotu open up a separate private box LOL05:22
livingdaylightDaSkreech: recording session? :o05:23
livingdaylight^^05:23
waylandbillgenii: if it worked like that, I would assume that mneisen's problem wouldn't even be happening then05:23
BluesKajyeah, bots have feelings too, ya know :)05:23
mneisenwaylandbill: right you are...05:23
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ^_^05:23
ubuntuthey do?05:23
mneisenmy problem is *not* speed.05:24
ubuntubots... have feelings? what madness is thsi?05:24
ubuntuthis*05:24
DaSkreechubuntu: It is what it is programmed to feel05:24
BluesKajutter madness05:24
genii!botsnack05:24
ubotuYum!05:24
ubuntuDaSkreech: then I would have ... OMG05:24
geniiWell he seems to at least get hungry05:24
ubuntuyou just fed the bot05:24
ubuntu!botsnack05:24
ubuntuaww05:24
DaSkreech!botslap05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
ubuntu!botmolest05:25
JuJuBeeGreetings.  Trying to load 6.10 onto a new computer (INTEL 965 MoBo, Core 2 Duo, 2GB Ram, 160GB HD).  I get the boot menu, but when I try to install, I get the splash screen then an error about BusyBox...  I disabled the splash and it appears that once the kernel loads, the system forgets how to read the DVD drive.05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botmolest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
=== DaSkreech grrrs
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ubuntuJuJuBee: reset your bios first05:25
|alex|someone could help me?05:25
JuJuBeeBack to Factory Defaults?05:25
|alex|I have a problem05:25
ubuntuyes05:25
JuJuBeeK05:26
ubuntujujubee: then enable booting from your drive05:26
geniimneisen Well, then if you don't want to chance disabling swap, the other option is to make the huge swap partition and see if it still chunks out05:26
fuelgenii : wget with recursive switch works wonderfully!05:26
ubuntu!info loginscreen6.905:26
ubotuPackage loginscreen6.9 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:26
geniifuel glad to hear :)05:26
JuJuBeeBut booting from dvd is enabled by default05:26
ubuntuYou get to the splash screen?05:27
JuJuBeeYes05:27
ubuntu!info busybox05:27
ubotubusybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB05:27
ubuntuahaha05:27
mneisengenii: I think of several solutions and will experiment.05:27
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ubuntujujubee: is it a laptop?05:27
JuJuBeeNo05:27
mneisengenii: waylandbill: thanks-a-jillion for your ideas and help.05:27
bumzohi guys05:27
geniimneisen OK, best luck05:27
ubuntujujubee: does it have an old vidocard?05:27
bumzoi've just mounted my flash disk using ''sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1''05:27
nosrednaekimbumzo: and?05:28
|alex|From three days kubuntu show me only windows partition on the desktop. If I want to see other partition i have to close session and open a new session05:28
JuJuBeeDont think so.  NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE05:28
|alex|how can i solve this problem?05:28
ubuntuahh thats what i have05:28
ubuntuumm...05:28
ubuntuit might be a bad burn05:28
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fuelbumzo: welcome back!05:28
ubuntuor a scratch05:28
ubuntuyou never know05:28
bumzowhen i try write to it ... it says ''access denied, could not write to media/sda1''05:28
bumzoFUEL05:28
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ubuntubumzo: are you trying it as root?05:29
bumzofuel: i've been looking ollova for u lol05:29
JuJuBeeI am trying to download a new image now.05:29
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fuelbumzo: :) too bad :P05:29
|alex|there is someone who could help me?05:29
ubuntuok, have you had an earlier version working before?05:29
bumzoununtu: i tried both as root and as me (bumzo)05:29
fuelbumzo: so whats your progress?05:29
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ubuntulike 6.0605:29
nosrednaekimbumzo: you have to browse to it with a "kdesu konquror"05:29
JuJuBeeThis CD works fine in other machines.  I used it to install before05:29
|alex|contact me in pvt05:29
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nosrednaekimbumzo: NM then05:29
ubuntujujubee: then don't get a new image05:29
ubuntujujubee: hmm...05:29
JuJuBeeI also tried 6.06 and that did not boot either05:29
ubuntujujubee: do you know that the hard drive is good?05:30
bumzonosrednaekim: wahts NM?05:30
waylandbillnever mind05:31
ubuntubusybox is a weird app to stop an installation ...05:31
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JuJuBeeCan't say for sure.  brand new05:31
ubuntu!info busybox05:31
ubotubusybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB05:31
geniiwaylandbill Damn, found his answer but gone now05:31
|alex|SOS05:31
ubuntuAre you trying to dual boot?05:31
|alex|help05:31
bumzowhen i pluc it in ... it doesnt automatically mount ... when i mount it from terminal .. i cant wtrit e to it ... only read its ontents05:31
JuJuBeeNo05:31
bumzoFuel: u there05:31
|alex|help me05:31
ubuntuhmm05:31
muuhBDXiwill ubuntu make a USB srive linux distro ?05:31
fuelbumzo: yep waiting :005:31
ubuntuahh.......05:31
muuhBDXiwill ubuntu make a USB drive linux distro ?05:32
geniimneisen Still here and/or alive?05:32
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muuhBDXi:D05:32
ubuntumuuhBDXi: if you want a USB drive linux distro, get DamnSmallLinux05:32
|alex|someone speak italian?05:32
bumzofuel: i dont know what we did earlier ... but i could read flash disks but not my usb external 80GB ntfs disk05:32
muuhBDXii dont want dsl05:32
geniimuuhBDXi: You can already install the standard dist on a USB drive or key if it has more than about 3Gb free05:32
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bumzoFuel: now i cant read my flash disks05:32
ubuntujujubee: try a different distro, juju05:33
fuelbumzo: :o05:33
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nosrednaekim!it > |alex|:05:33
bumzofuel :S05:33
livingdaylightDaSkreech: can't see how it is different to Linux Mint05:33
ubuntuget damnsmalllinux and then just see if it will run off of the CD05:33
muuhBDXimy USB drive has 250 megas05:33
waylandbillgenii: what's the answer?05:33
fuelbumzo: ok do you have vnc installed05:33
fuel?05:33
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JuJuBeeI tried Kororaa and it seems to tell me the same thing.  Once kernel loads, it forgets how to read the cd05:33
bumzofuel: vnc?05:33
fuel!vnc05:33
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX05:33
geniimuuhBDXi: You'll be lucky to find anything that will run with some gui on that05:33
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JuJuBeeIm using an INTEL board with 965 chipset, if that helps05:34
bumzofuel how do i install it? can i use add remove programs?05:34
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muuhBDXigenii are you a missinformation agent ?05:34
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nosrednaekimmuuhBDXi: slax05:34
fuelbumzo: i think its installed by default05:34
nosrednaekimI think it can fit on 256mb05:34
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geniiwaylandbill: From http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/diff.1.asp   : When you call it as bdiff, diff computes the differences in chunks of n lines (default 3999). This lets you process arbitrarily large files and generally produces less output than the -h option.05:34
bumzofuel: ok, how do i get it?05:34
ubuntujujubee: have you tried a floppy install?05:34
muuhBDXitheres lots of kde distros that run under 250 megas usb drives05:34
ubuntujujubee: brb05:34
JuJuBeeNo, don't have floppy drive05:34
JuJuBeeK05:35
MidMarkhi, is there something special I have to do to install java-jre6 in a powerpc mac? because it says that it cannot satisfy some dependencies05:35
BluesKajJuJuBee, I hate to ask, did you partition the drive ?05:35
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muuhBDXii mean ubuntu has lots of flavours like xubuntu kubuntu etc05:35
bumzofuel:i can see ur pvt message but cant reply coz am not registered05:35
muuhBDXiwhy not a USB drive distro has well05:35
fueloh!05:35
muuhBDXi?05:35
JuJuBeeNo, haven't been able to boot yet05:35
geniimuuhBDXi: You can copy over the casper boot dist from the CD but I think you need even about 800Mb for that05:35
fuelbumzo: now did you try asking in #linux ?05:36
genii(if you want to install stuff)05:36
BluesKajJuJuBee,I presume the pc came with windows ?05:36
fuelbumzo: did you install ntfs ?05:36
fuel!ntfs05:36
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:36
fuel!ntfs-3g05:36
JuJuBeeNo, bought parts   to build it.05:36
waylandbillgenii: that's only for the mkstoolkit's diff.05:36
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)05:36
ubuntu!reiserfs05:36
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.05:36
fuelnotorious ?05:37
ubuntu!ext305:37
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org05:37
ubuntulol05:37
geniiwaylandbill Really? Damn, thought I had it for a minute there :(05:37
fuelthats very very partial05:37
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ubuntulol05:37
bumzofuel : installed ntfs-3g sucessufly yes05:37
ubuntu!echo05:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about echo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
fuelactually i used reiser fs when using suse and it was damn good05:37
nosrednaekimfuel: probably his wife wrote that05:37
ubuntu!info echo05:37
ubotuPackage echo does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:37
fuelnosrednaekim: :D05:37
ubuntuwhat is the POINT of echo other than SH scripts?05:37
lilalinuxmy kubuntu 6.06 doens't have knetworkmanager in it's repository. Where can I find it?05:38
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ubuntu!info knetworkmanager05:38
bumzofuel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10029/05:38
geniiwaylandbill: Interestingly, man bdiff produces a page on my dapper box05:38
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB05:38
ubuntuit is in the repos, lilalinux05:38
ubuntudo this:05:38
fueleven knetstats is very good05:38
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ubuntulilalinux: open up a terminal and type this:05:38
fuelbumzo: you have lots of patience :) anyway type vncserver05:39
bumzofuel: there is a command we ran earlier that got it writing and reading much earleir in the day. I rebooted my system, then it stopped the mounting05:39
DaSkreech!It | |Alex|05:39
ubotu|Alex|: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:39
fuelbumzo: so read and wrote ? very good :)05:39
ubuntulilalinux: cd /etc/apt/ && sudo EDITOR (i used vim) sources.list05:39
fuelbumzo: what command did you try ? ( which worked)05:39
ubuntuadd universe multiverse to both of the repository lines05:39
fuel!knetstats05:39
ubotuknetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB05:39
lilalinuxubuntu: thx05:39
bumzofuel: perfectly (on flash disks i.e) which are fat32 i even transfered several files05:40
ubuntulilalinux: np05:40
bumzofuel: thats what i dont rmember lol05:40
fuelbumzo: fat32 works without problem man05:40
nosrednaekimbumzo: fat32 is different from ntfs...05:40
ubuntuno di05:40
ubuntudip05:40
ubuntu!nfs05:40
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:40
ubuntu!cdfs05:40
bumzofuel: bash: vncserver: command not found05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
ubuntusorry guys i just wanna see if they're biased anymore05:40
bumzoubuntu ..am aware of that yes05:41
fuelok "sudo apt-get install vncserver"05:41
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ubuntulol05:41
fuel!vncserver05:41
ubotuvncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB05:41
federicoC81hello everybody can i please ask for an help with wireless?05:41
ubuntuOOH OOH ME05:41
ubuntuME05:41
ubuntuME05:41
DaSkreech!wifi05:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:41
nosrednaekimfedericoC81: you may05:42
ubuntu!info madwifi05:42
ubotuPackage madwifi does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:42
ubuntuaw05:42
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mneisengenii: still alive and kicking :-D05:42
nosrednaekim!info madwifi-ng05:42
bumzoubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10001/ thats the root of all my probs lol05:42
ubotuPackage madwifi-ng does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:42
federicoC81i have problems connecting to w-lans protected by WEP05:43
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federicoC81i tried to use both wlassitant and wifi-radar with the same result05:43
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bumzofuel: am loking up upon u ... u are my saviour05:43
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federicoC81that is it doesn't get an IP05:44
geniimneisen Thought I had it earlier but looks like not. Still, looking around.05:44
ubuntu_k05:44
ubuntu_oh man05:44
ubuntu_i messed up05:44
fuelubuntu : help bumzo05:44
ubuntu_fuel: what does bumzo need?05:45
fuelubuntu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10001/05:45
mneisengenii: OK, thank you.05:45
DaSkreechyo aseigo05:45
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nosrednaekim!CNR05:45
federicoC81!CNR05:46
fuelubuntu_: he wants to mount and read/write stuff but something is coming inbetween05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
fuel:O05:46
ubuntu_bumzo: what type of FS is on your external disk?05:46
nosrednaekim!WEP | federicoC8105:46
ubotufedericoC81: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:46
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fuelis ubuntu going ahead with cnr + adept ?05:46
ubuntu_dunno05:46
nosrednaekimfuel: I think so..I hope its in fiesty05:46
nosrednaekim /. has an article on it today05:46
ubuntu_BUMZOO: WHAT FS IS ON YOUR EXTERNAL FLASH DISK05:46
bumzoubuntu: NTFS ... its a toshiba slim disk05:46
fuelbut what are the advantages? and adept has everything!05:46
nosrednaekimfuel: you can get "illegal" codecs05:47
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nosrednaekimlegally05:47
fuelnosrednaekim: :))05:47
bumzoubuntu: fuel: you wanna see my /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab contents05:47
lilalinuxubuntu_: "apt-cache search knetworkmanager" returns no result, even after apt-get update05:47
fueli am all for cnr+adept! :)05:47
nosrednaekimyeah... me too05:47
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nosrednaekimas long as they leave adpet05:47
nosrednaekim*adept05:47
fuel:)05:48
ubuntu_bumzo: what about this: mount /dev/sda1 ntfs /media/sda105:48
ubuntu_you don't want to format it tho...05:48
Lynourelilalinux: apt-cache search network manager   is more fault tolerant05:48
ubuntu_lilalinux: are you using command line apt or adept?05:48
ubuntu_!info adept05:48
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB05:48
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timsterHow can I allow a window to be in two different desktops if its half way between, without beryl05:49
lilalinuxubuntu_: commandline05:49
ubuntu_lilalinux: try apt-get install adept and then run adept and search for knetworkmanager05:49
lilalinuxk05:49
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timster!windows behaviour05:50
ubuntu_!botsnack05:50
ubotuYum!05:50
bumzoubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10032/05:50
ubuntu_bumzo: i saw it05:50
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nosrednaekimfuel: whats wrong with beryl?05:51
pinguin_#channels05:51
ubuntu_bumzo: did you actually look in the error log?05:51
bumzoubuntu: i'll be very frank .. NO05:51
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yacoobGreetings.05:51
ubuntu_buzo: (in konsole) dmesg | tail05:51
yacoobIs there a FAQ somewhere how to integrate firefox with kde smoothly?05:51
ubuntu_that should give you your error report05:51
fuelnosrednaekim: i dont have a hardware that can support it :(05:52
nosrednaekimfuel: what kinda video card?05:52
ubuntu_yacoob: just do like apt-get install firefox05:52
ubuntu_fuel: what kinda video card?05:52
waylandbillgenii: mneisen: I found source for bdiff here: http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/tools.html05:52
fuelmine is just inbuild 64MB card (shared memory)05:53
timster!firefox05:53
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins05:53
ubuntu_fuel: then don't complain05:53
fuel:D05:53
timster!firefox205:53
yacoobubuntu_, there's more than that :)05:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
mneisenwaylandbill: Great!05:53
timsterHow can I install firefox 205:53
ubuntu_fuel: any 128mb vidcard will be better than a 64 integrated05:53
yacoobie, integrating with alt-f2 'g something'05:53
nosrednaekimfuel: that doesn't neccesarily rule it out... is it an Intel?05:53
mneisenI was looking for bdiff but could not find a free version of it.05:53
ubuntu_timster: apt-get install firefox05:53
fuelnosrednaekim: yes05:53
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timsterubuntu_: Thats only 1.505:54
timsterI want firefox 205:54
DaSkreechtimster: Are you on dapper?05:54
ubuntu_timster: apt-get update firefox05:54
nosrednaekimtimster: areyou on dapper?05:54
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timsterIm 6.0605:54
anything!resolution05:54
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:54
geniiwaylandbill Cool, yer da man :)05:54
ubuntu_timster: mozilla.com05:54
bumzoubuntu: i've read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10035/05:54
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vltHello. Where does konqueror store the sites I once said "never store passwords for"?05:54
bmgsi can i upgrade my kubuntu to 7 ?05:54
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nosrednaekimfuel: is it a i835?05:55
nosrednaekimfuel: or grater05:55
fuelnosrednaekim: no idea about that .05:55
ubuntu_vit: whereever your mom will find them05:55
nosrednaekimfuel: do a dmsg for it..05:55
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ubuntu_nosrednaekim: you mean dmesg?05:55
gentoofan23yeah.05:56
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ubuntu_gentoofan: gentoo sucks05:56
timsterKomplie is rubish05:56
bumzoubuntu: look at the log ... looks perfectly fine05:56
BluesKajubuntu, don't start aflame ...we already went thru this a day ago05:57
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bumzoyet i still cant access the flash05:57
mneisenwaylandbill: OK, bdiff seems to be the right tool, but how to apply these patches to big files? I guess that patch has the same (or similar) limitations as diff has?!05:57
timster!komplie05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about komplie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
_JohnyHello everyone. I've got a problem related to compiling. Would anyone be so nice to take a look on the log_05:57
nosrednaekimubuntu_: fuel: yeah "dmesg"05:57
_Johny?05:57
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nosrednaekim_Johny: pastebin it05:57
waylandbillheirloom may have a matching patch05:57
bumzofuel: you still there05:57
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gentoofan23gentoo  is great for advanced users....besides, you should be thankful I am helping out your ubuntu people.05:57
timsterCan someone walk me through compiling a package05:58
_Johnynosrednaekim: here ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10036/05:58
gentoofan23I can.05:58
gentoofan23Now, first thing you do is unpack the source package.05:58
gentoofan23What is the name of your package: timster?05:59
_Johny!search compiling05:59
timsterOk05:59
ubotuFound: build-essential, gcc, b-e, make, build-essentials, compile, g++, compiling, build, compiler05:59
ginociao05:59
timsterFirefox 2.0.0.205:59
_Johny!compile | timster05:59
ubotutimster: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:59
timsterfirefox-2.0.0.2.tar.gz05:59
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gentoofan23ok, do this "tar xvzf firefox-2.0.0.2.tar.gz"06:00
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_Johnytimster: Isn't firefox in the repositories?06:00
gentoofan23Also, doesn't kubuntu have that version of firefox?06:00
timsterNot 206:00
timsterOnly 1.506:00
timsterIm on 6.0606:00
gentoofan23!firefox206:00
timsterand it only has 1.506:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:00
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gentoofan23Ok, that makes sense then.06:00
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keeserccautomatix on fiesty fawn Kubuntu?06:00
timsterOk, I have done that06:00
bumzoubuntu: u there?06:01
timstercd firefox?06:01
waylandbillmneisen: I don't think you need to worry about patch. I'm pretty sure it'll just fseek to the appropriate places.06:01
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gentoofan23yeah, "cd firefox06:01
timsterOk06:02
mneisenwaylandbill: OK, will try to use bdiff. Thanks for your help!06:02
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nosrednaekimtimster: http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2006/10/26/firefox-2-ubuntu-610/06:02
gentoofan23now do "./configure"06:02
timsterbash: ./configure: No such file or directory06:03
gentoofan23Just a sec....06:03
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gentoofan23I am unpacking firefox-2.0.0.1 and that tarball uncompresses into "mozilla/"06:04
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BluesKajtimster , is the folder in another folder in your /home ?06:05
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timsterI have found an installl file06:05
timsterIm gonna give it ago06:05
gentoofan23ok.06:05
BluesKajif that's case get rid of the second folder . cut and paste it into home , then cd to the dir in the terminal06:05
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BluesKajthis seems to happen a lot lately with some pkgs .../folders in folders in /home06:06
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julle!quicktime06:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:10
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geniiwaylandbill bdiff compiled OK on my dapper box. I renamed it bigdiff. Trying it on 2 dvd iso images06:11
waylandbillgenii: nice! :-)06:12
bumzofuse: i have made pregress06:13
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bumzoprogress*06:13
bumzoi have mounted the flash using ''sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1'' which worked06:13
bumzobut i cant write to it06:13
bumzoubuntu : u there?06:13
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waylandbillgenii: watch the generated patch be as big as the iso itself. ;-)06:13
DjDarkmanhy ,does compiz work with kde?06:14
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gentoofan23DjDarkman, with KDE, you should use beryl06:14
gentoofan23!beryl06:14
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:14
geniiwaylandbill Likely :) Tho the 2 images are almost the same. 1 is a modified version of the other where I had to repair some vob files and such06:14
jannhi, i'm having problems to get firefox in spanish. i have one user where i use it in german and i want another one in spanish. i installed mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es via adept but it doesnt appear in spanish. when i turn off the german language pack it stays in english. any ideas?06:15
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jhutchinsjann: No clue really, but if you have to turn the german language pack off, I suspect you have to turn the spanish language pack on.06:16
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jannjhutchins: its turned on06:16
bmgsi cant open automatix because i m running adept .. how can i stop it if i can see it06:17
rljhaving problem with the kde media manager, where it mounts a cdrom (and other storage media) just after i close kde's popup, even if i hit cancel or select "do nothing" and hit ok. it hasn't behaved like that before and it's clearly wrong. anyone else with this behaviour?06:17
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jhutchinsjann: Could be you have to turn german off, revert to english, turn spanish on?06:17
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jhutchinsrlj: Have you set any particular device to auto-mount?06:18
jannjhutchins: when i turn all the language packs off, it comes in english, when i turn on the spanish one, still06:18
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jhutchinsjann: Any luck in #firefox then?06:19
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rljjhutchins: i haven't actively told anything to automount06:19
jannjhutchins: no, so far no response06:19
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rljjhutchins: before, it would give me the popup on any media insert and if i hit "open in a new window", konq would open and automount upon access. if i hit cancel however, it would remain unmounted. this is what i want. now, however, even if i hit cancel, kde goes ahead and mounts it anyway (and i can even see the mount process dialog for a second (when my cd drive spins up))06:20
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jannjhutchins: its strange: it works with the german lp, but not with the spanish one06:20
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rljjhutchins: i have no idea when this behavior got introduced, but upon booting the edgy livecd, i can see that it is indeed not the default behaviour. there, if i hit cancel, it will not mount anything...06:21
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rljjhutchins: and i don't have ivman installed, so it can't get messed up by that either...06:23
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dromerhi all, atm I'm trying to have dual-screen on my htpc with the composite-out of my Geforce2/MX. I used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=  and it works quite well, but is there another way to have the 2nd screen as an actual extension of the desktop? so I can move programs and maximise them etc?  this would be quit helpfull since I can hardly read any text and stuff on my tv06:24
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rljso does anyone know how to trace what process is actually calling hal (through kde's media manager i believe) to mount the external device?06:26
rljtried dbus-monitor on the system bus but to no avail06:26
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fdovingrlj: what do you want to know? mediamanager is a kded module, it is responsible for such things.06:29
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rljfdoving: i want to know why mediamanager (or something else through kde's interfaces) automounts everything i insert after i close the popup, even if i tell it "do nothing" or hit cancel in the dialog. (it should only mount if i do "open in new window" or similar)06:30
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c0nv1ctrlj: that is asking you 'what to do' with the new mount, not whether or not to mount it06:31
rljwell, if i boot the kubuntu edgy livecd, it acts the way i expect06:31
c0nv1ctrlj: similar to what Windows does when it gets a CD inserted, it asks you what you want to do with this new CD06:31
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rljand also, i remember it acted like that before as well, at least when i still ran dapper. not sure about after my edgy upgrade06:32
c0nv1ctrlj: i'm not sure what you mean by acting as you expect while using the livecd06:32
rljso when booting the edgy livecd, kde will NOT mount the medium if i hit cancel in the dialog06:32
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rljit will however mount it if i hit "open in new window" which calls up a konq on that path which will mount it upon trying to access the location06:33
fdovingthat has changed, since dapper.06:33
rlji know for certain it did not act like this before.06:33
rljis there a way to disable that behaviour?06:33
rlj(but it might be as you say, the behaviour switch occured between dapper and edgy. i don't remember exactely when i noticed this behaviour happening)06:34
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waylandbillrlj: the kcontrol center has options to disable that dialog06:35
rlji think the popup is really nice because i can easily automount if i want to, but not if i don't for example if i want to repartition it. or the stupid usb key registers as multiple devices where only one is the interesting one.. things like that.06:35
rljthe problem is:06:35
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rljif i (for my cd drive for example) set "do nothing" as the default action in kcontrol06:36
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rljall that does is suppress the popup. then the cd gets automounted anyway, but without any dialog blocking the action first06:36
sparrwusing CUPS configured through KDE, I need to figure out why my print jobs are not actually printing.  help?06:37
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geniisparrw local or remote printer?06:37
waylandbillrlj: you probably need to add noauto to the fstab entry06:38
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rljwaylandbill: i don't have any static fstab entries for my usb keys06:38
rljwaylandbill: i want kde not to automount when i explicitly tell it to "do nothing" through kcontrol... this clearly seems like buggy behaviour to me06:38
waylandbillrlj: I thought you were refering to cdrom drive.06:38
sparrwgenii: remote06:39
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fdovingrlj: i can confirm that devices strangely enought still mounts even if i toggle the 'right-click on device -> properties -> mounter -> automount checkbox'06:39
rljwaylandbill: same thing happens no matter what kind i configure in kcontrol for06:39
waylandbillsparrw: the ip address for the remote cups server is correct?06:39
sparrwwaylandbill: local CUPS, remote printer06:39
fyrmedicHow do I figure out what /dev file my GPS is attached to if it is in a USB port?06:39
geniisparrw More questions :) Is it connected directly to the network/lan or hosted on some print server computer/embedded device or over the internet somewhere?06:40
waylandbillspa06:40
sparrwgenii: its connected directly to the LAN06:40
space_ninjaWhich dc clients does kubuntu have?06:40
waylandbillsparrw: then the remote printer then.06:40
sparrwwaylandbill: yes06:40
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geniisparrw Then I would suggest setting it up as a generic networked Postscript printer06:41
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sparrwgenii: i will try that06:41
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geniisparrw There have been some other issues lately with IPP printers over CUPS as well. If generic postscript network printer doesn't work, change the print system to use lpd06:42
rljfdoving: never checked that dialog, but yeah, that tickbox is not enabled on my system either06:43
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fdovingrlj: it's not mounted until you close the popup, right?06:44
JuJuBeeIs there a live cd for Feisty somewhere?  I read that the INTEL g965 express chipset has issues  with ubuntu 6.10 due to kernel version?06:44
fdovingrlj: when the box is unchecked. if you check it, it's mounted at once.06:44
Dr_willisJuJuBee,  thers livecd images on the feisty download page06:45
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rljfdoving: that's correct, kde only mounts once i close the popup dialog. (if i however in kcontrol tell it to have "do nothing" as default action, the dialog never appears and it mounts straight away nevertheless)06:45
fdovingJuJuBee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/06:45
Daskreechcrimsun: ping06:45
fdovingrlj: ok. i'll have a look.06:45
c0nv1ctrlj: why do you want it not to mount?06:45
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sparrwit works as generic postscript06:47
sparrwnot as the actual printer model06:47
sparrwshould i bug report?  if so, how can i get more info on the failing jobs06:47
geniisparrw OK, good :) This happens often06:47
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rljc0nv1ct: i'll give you some examples. 1) i have a usb key which registers as a "cd writer" and a "usb mass storage device". i don't want the "cd writer" to mount (which only contains some system stuff), as i want to be able to quickly right-click on the actual usb-key-mountpoint and do "safely remove". 2) same thing with my ipod really since i have a second ext2 partition on it as well. i don't usually want that to mount, so most of the time the vfat is all i'm06:48
rljinterested in. i want to be able to right-click on the vfat mountpoint and do "safely remove", not caring about the other partition06:48
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geniisparrw No, no bug report is neccesary06:48
c0nv1ctrlj: i didnt think that 'safely remove' thing even worked06:49
rljc0nv1ct: and with cd's, i only want them to mount if i actually open the window to browse it. otherwise, i want it to sit in my drive. with a dvd for example, you can play it fine in mplayer without having it mounted06:49
rljc0nv1ct: has worked quite well for me06:49
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rljin either way, i don't like doing "eject /dev/sda" if i have sda1 and sda2 mounted...06:49
geniic0nv1ct: I imagine it's only an alias for "eject"06:49
rljc0nv1ct: no, i think that context menu actually does some hal magic. but i'm not sure06:50
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rljfdoving: any ideas? if you have a spare kubuntu edgy livecd (and computer), try booting it and see how it reacts to a usb key there06:51
rljgenii: c0nv1ct: no, i think that context menu actually does some hal magic. but i'm not sure06:51
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bumzoi need help here06:52
bumzoi can mount my flash but not write to it06:53
bumzohow do i fix that?06:53
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geniiI think maybe a sync routine in there06:53
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c0nv1ctbumzo: you have to mount it with options06:53
rljbumzo: what filesystem is on the flash?06:53
nosrednaekimbumzo: if its NTF, makesure you have ntfs-3g installed06:53
nosrednaekim*ntfs06:54
geniibumzo:  What options are you giving the mount command?06:54
bumzoI have ntfs intsalled06:54
grego_is it possible to use different icon set than default in gtk apps (under kde)? , tango for example06:54
c0nv1cti doubt the flash drive is ntfs, i've only seen fat32 and fat1606:54
bumzosudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 to mount06:54
bumzono no .. the flash is FAT3206:54
dromerhi all, I'm trying Xinerama now for my dual-screen setup, though I;m not sure how to handle the composite-out and the tv connected in xorg.conf since the guide on ubuntuforums only explains a setup with two generic monitors06:54
bumzogenii: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda106:54
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c0nv1ctbumzo: try sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda106:55
geniibumzo perhaps use:  sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,user /dev/sda1 /media/sda106:55
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nosrednaekimbumzo: can you write while being in root?06:55
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jean-benoit!fr06:55
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:55
edward_wondering if anyone can help me with a problems reading dvd?06:56
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edward_it plays jerky06:56
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edward_I have i386 software running on amd 64 system06:56
rljedward_: run "hdparm /dev/hdX" where hdX is your dvd drive and check that DMA is on06:56
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bumzoc0nv1ct: sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 for the FAT 32 cflash disk06:58
c0nv1ctbumzo: yes, or include -t vfat before the -o part06:58
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edward_tried hdparm and says no such directory06:58
bumzoHowever .. i have an external usb 80GB HDD ntfs ... i can read it but not write...it mounts automatically06:58
c0nv1ctbumzo: i dont have to specify the type for mine, but it doesnt hurt to06:58
c0nv1ctbumzo: you shouldnt write to ntfs anyway06:59
jhutchins_wk!ntfs06:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:59
c0nv1ctbumzo: adding the uid=1000 option will make the owner of the files on there the first user your started with, if you use a different one, use that users UID instead07:00
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rljedward_: try "hdparm /dev/dvd"07:01
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rljedward_: and make sure "using_dma" says "1 (on)"07:01
edward_it says dma is on07:02
nosrednaekimedward_: do you have 3d acceleration?07:02
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edward_hdparm /dev/dvd worked07:02
nosrednaekimmaybe your video card can't handle it07:02
edward_was wondering if I should switch to amd64 kubuntu?07:03
sparrwi added the kpf applet to my panel, and set up a server with a folder, but i cant drop files from konqueror onto it.  whats up with that?07:03
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nosrednaekimedward_: nah... that wouldn't improve anything07:03
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c0nv1ctedward_: i wouldnt, unless you specifically need 64bit apps, or have a ton of RAM07:04
edward_i had amd64 loaded and it worked but didn't like the fact couldn't get macromedia work to download07:04
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edward_that's why I went back to i38607:04
jhutchins_wkedward_: The 64b stuff is not as well developed as fewer developers can afford 64b machines to play with.  A lot of multimedia is hard to get as there are no w64codecs.07:04
nosrednaekimedward_: yeah... thats fine... do you have 3d acceleration?07:04
c0nv1ctedward_: 64bit is a hassle, its not worth it really07:05
edward_I'm using the onboard video07:05
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c0nv1ctmaybe in a year or 2, 64bit will be ready07:05
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nosrednaekimc0nv1ct: I'm running it...but it sure wasn't easy07:05
gioacchinohello07:06
nosrednaekimI still don't have java07:06
jhutchins_wkThe hard part is getting the propietary stuff reverse-engineered.07:06
edward_how can I check for which type of video I'm running07:06
c0nv1ctnosrednaekim: lol tell me about it... i spent a week on it, and just decided to reinstall to i38607:06
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jhutchins_wkedward_: What do you mean?07:06
c0nv1ctnosrednaekim: i still have XP x64 and Vista x64 installed too... such BS07:06
jhutchins_wkedward_: Do you want to know the card or chipset, or what driver you're using.07:06
edward_Vista Suckssss!!!! LOL07:07
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geniiYamiTenshi: Please use the website http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to paste the exact error. then report back the pastebin url07:07
nosrednaekimedward_: do "glxinfo"07:07
c0nv1ctVista is ok, i like the volume tool07:07
edward_actually like to know if I have the proper driver installed for configuration07:07
c0nv1cttoo much DRM madness though07:07
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nosrednaekimand read the first three lines07:07
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jhutchins_wkedward_: lspci should show you the chipset info.07:08
nosrednaekimc0nv1ct: I'm getting a free upgrade... we'll see how it goes07:08
nosrednaekimjhutchinsahh good call07:08
geniiSorry, wrong channel :) For #ubuntu07:08
bumzoc0nv1ct: so u mean to say i cannot mount the ntfs flash external HDD ??07:08
c0nv1ctnosrednaekim: hope you got signed drivers for everything :P07:08
BluesKajHmmm, just saw a fan promoting vista on tv, calling it 'cool' etc, but downplaying it's program compatability shortcomings07:08
c0nv1ctbumzo: you can mount it, but i wouldnt write to it07:08
rljfdoving: i added a rule to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi where i set storage.automount_enabled_hint=false for my cd drive and restarted hald. kde-hal-device-manager confirms the change (it was true by default). still, kdemediamanager behaves just the same... :(07:08
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engelzzhiho07:08
lupulcan anyone help me pls with the usplash?07:08
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edward_what info do you need from 1st three lines?07:09
lorderunionhi. i'm having trouble setting up dual monitors.07:09
lupul!usplash07:09
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork07:09
engelzzi have a little problem: i have a voodoo banshee but on kdm start it just restarts kdm infinity07:09
nosrednaekimc0nv1ct: it'll be 32 bit... no worry about that07:09
c0nv1ctVista is pretty cool, its got some nice improvements, but i won't pay $400 bucks for Ultimate07:09
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JuJuBeeWhat version of the linnux kernel doed Feisty use?  Edgy?07:09
bumzoc0nv1ct: yes .... i meant have write acces.....coz it mounts sucessfully but i cant write to it ,.... how cum?07:09
nosrednaekimedward_: look at the line direct rendering.. does it say yes or no?07:09
lorderunioni've got an internal ati output on my motherboard, and an nvidia card.07:09
Tm_TJuJuBee: packages.ubuntu.com might help.07:09
edward_direct rendering says no07:09
c0nv1ctbumzo: writing to NTFS is considered experimental... it may work, but there is a risk of data loss07:09
JuJuBeeThanx07:10
fdovingrlj: i'm looking at mediamanager now.07:10
bumzoc0nv1ct: ok .. .i get it07:10
sparrwi have two kubuntu machines installed as edgy then migrated to feisty on slightly different timelines.  one has 'run command' kde shortcut as Alt+F2, the other Super+R.  whats up with that?07:10
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bumzoc0nv1ct: one more problem.... it seems i have to keep on running that command whenever i plug in my usb flash disk. it does not auto mount07:11
BayRoothow to get FlashPlayer for AMD64??07:11
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rljfdoving: thank you07:11
c0nv1ctsparrw: you can change shortcuts if you want07:11
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nosrednaekimedward_: do " lspci | grep VGA"07:11
lorderunioni'm having trouble setting up dual monitors with ati and nvidia. any help?07:11
nosrednaekimand make sure vga is capitalized07:11
BluesKajdarn, what's the trick again to get the browser to open fullpage ,FF was hijacked by a website that did something that changed the page size :(07:12
hanshi..I have a question.. I'm using ubuntu and I used to use red hat, now I'm trying to check the Known_host file unde .ssh but I dont find it07:12
nosrednaekimedward_: and paste that line here07:12
c0nv1ctbumzo: mine automounted the first time i put it in, but it didnt when i just tried a second ago... so i dunno07:12
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c0nv1ctbumzo: but i am running vmware right now, that could be why07:12
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: f11?07:12
sparrwc0nv1ct: i know, but why are they different?07:12
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jhutchins_wkhans: Perhaps you don't have one?07:13
c0nv1ctsparrw: its possible that one found your proper keyboard and decided to make use of the win key07:13
c0nv1ctsparrw: or maybe the different versions of KDE have different defaults07:13
edward_it says nvidia07:13
gioacchinoanybody want to help me ??07:13
edward_vga compatible controller07:13
BluesKajnosrednaekim, F11 just makes it fullsrcn07:13
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sparrwc0nv1ct: plausible, im using a mac keyboard on the one using alt+f207:13
BluesKaji want the browser to open 'full page '07:14
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nosrednaekimedward_: get the binary nvidia drivers then.07:14
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh...I c..07:14
sparrwc0nv1ct: speaking of...  is there any way to get the mac keyboard f14-f16 to behave like pc print/scroll/pause keys?07:14
edward_will the bin nvidia drivers take care of dvd problem?07:14
edward_how do I get the files07:15
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nosrednaekimedward_: they probably will07:15
nosrednaekimedward_: they are in the repositories..07:15
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c0nv1ctsparrw: not sure, go to System Settings and select Keyboard, then under Keyboard Shortcuts, you can change that stuf there07:15
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nosrednaekim!nvidia | edward_07:15
ubotuedward_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:15
c0nv1ctsparrw: i know there is a 'Mac Scheme' option07:15
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nosrednaekim!botsnack07:17
ubotuYum!07:17
frojndif I wanna install java for firefox, than: udo apt-get install sun-java5-jre   and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin , but what if I wanna install java for opera??07:17
dromerok, I'm really having some problems getting Xinerama/twinview w/e to work. I want to extend my desktop to a tv using the composite-out of my Geforce2, can anybody help me? :$07:17
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nosrednaekimdromer: if noone here can help, try over at #ubuntu07:18
dromernosrednaekim: yeah, thnx07:18
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_eMaX_what is the easiest way to remove links to one /etc/init.d script from all /etc/rc*.d's there was a script yet I've forgotten07:19
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geniifrojnd: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#java07:20
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frojndgenii: tnx07:20
lahcenhi guys,07:20
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lahcenwhat should i do to upgrade from kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 without downloading the ISO07:22
nosrednaekim!upgrade07:22
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:22
fdovinglahcen: you can have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade07:23
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geniilahcen Minimal install iso for feisty is only about 8M07:26
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rljfdoving: i really have to leave now, but thanks for your time. i'll disable the mediamanager from kcontrol as a temporary workaround, but that takes away all popups and forces me to mount all cdroms from yakuake since they won't even show up in media:/ ... usb devices do show up in media:/ though so those work alright now. just without the popup...07:27
lahcenthe problem with that is many other things will not be installed, and i just don't have the patience to install them one by one, the minimal install that is!07:27
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stamenhi07:28
stamenplease tell me how to load this module -> intel_rng07:28
lahcenfor example, a couple of days ago, i did the upgrade and there was a bug, so I guess it didn't finish the upgrade07:29
bill57785ok, so I manually reformatted my compact flash card last night in an attempt to install the Palm OS on it for this lifedrive07:29
fdovingrlj: if i manage to fix it i'll make sure the fix is included in the next possible release.07:29
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bill57785anyways, I dont think it worked, and now the CF card won't show up on linux....somebody told me I had to manually mount it then reformatted it07:29
bill57785how do I do this?07:29
geniilahcen I tried the recommended upgrade route/method fdoving just gave the link for to upgrade on my laptop but afterwards itwas pretty fubar and had to eventually resort to cd install07:29
rljfdoving: in what package is the kde media manager?07:30
fdovingrlj: kdebase.07:30
rljfdoving: thank you so much, i'll try and post a bug on launchpad as well07:30
fdovingrlj: please do.07:30
rljfdoving: btw, is this because of kubuntu or upstream kde media manager?07:30
stamenit is located here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10064/07:31
stamenthis is the problem07:31
fdovingrlj: i'm not sure. kubuntu patches kdebase pretty hard wrt. the media:/ behavior.07:31
lahcengenii: ouch, because if i do a cd install the wirelss adapter doesn't work07:31
rljfdoving: oh, yeah i rememeber that..07:31
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stamenbut in the listed folder there is this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10065/, so how to fix it and to make it work07:32
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rljfdoving: in my opinion, i prefer the old media:/ behaviour. at least i know it acts differently because it's kio. whereas now, /media is somehow magical. but there are benefits as well... i hope the future holds a neater solution! (cause media:/ sure isn't neat either)07:32
rljgood night you all07:32
fdovingnite, and bye.07:32
bumzoc0nv1ct:wahts vmware abt?07:33
rljbtw, can i disconnect in konversation and still keep the history? i just want to disconnect, but /quit closes the tabs as well07:33
bill57785how can I manually mount this compact flash card?07:33
bonbonthejonbill57785: it didnt automatically mount?07:34
bill57785no07:34
c0nv1ctbumzo: what is vmware? its a virtual machine, it allows you to run different OS inside of your current one07:34
bill57785I partitioned it last night (its a long story) and now I need to repartition it07:35
bill57785but when I plug it in, it doesn't mount07:35
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geniibill57785: What device again does it see it as?07:35
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geniibill57785: Still struggling with the palmos I see07:35
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bill57785the CHS values are really wierd for it (I partitioned it for a palm LifeDrive), so a lot of forums keep telling me I need to just delete all the partitions instead of mounting them07:35
bill57785yep ^_^07:36
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geniibill57785: What /dev is the drive using?07:38
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edward_anyone know how I can get real player to work?07:38
keeserccis this a good place to ge help with cups?07:38
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geniikeesercc: Good as any07:39
jhutchins_wkbill57785: Shouldn't be mounted if you want to alter partitions.07:39
bumzo c0nv1ct: how do i install it? sudo apt-get vmware?07:39
jhutchins_wkbill57785: You mount partitions, not devices.07:39
keeserccok, I was trying to determine if this is a problem or not:07:39
keeserccUnable to bind socket for address 0.0.0.0:631 - Address already in use.07:39
bill57785I guess I stated my problem wrong07:39
bill57785it doesn't even show up under media anymore07:39
bill57785nothing happens when I plug it in07:39
keeserccthat is in my /var/log/cups/error_log07:39
bill57785its as though it weren't even there07:39
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c0nv1ctbumzo: vmware workstation isnt free, you can read up on it at vmware.com07:40
keeserccthere is also: Unable to bind socket for address :::631 - Address already in use07:40
jhutchins_wkbill57785: tail -f /var/log/messages, then unplug it and plug it in.  You should see which device it becomes (probably /dev/sda).07:40
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geniijhutchins_wk He followed the instructions here http://hackndev.com/node/196 for his palmos but of course now after the partition table edit, linux has some issues07:40
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bill57785it's sda107:41
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keeserccand when I run: ps -A | grep cupsd, I get about 4 things that show up.  Is that normal?07:41
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jhutchins_wkbill57785: Probably should be using http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS07:42
jhutchins_wkbill57785: Have a look at that, see if it makes sense.07:42
bill57785lol07:42
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jhutchins_wkbill57785: Meanwhile, fdisk -l /dev/sda will show you the partitions.07:42
jhutchins_wkbill57785: The _device_ is /dev/sda.  /dev/sda1 is the first partition on the device.07:42
PhinnForthow can I get verbose output from the configure script when installing a package?07:43
bill57785actually, I was using the wiki...and as genii can tell you, the wiki actually screwed up some of the commands that I was supposed to use07:43
geniijhutchins_wk That page has a typo in the part you cut/paste for the partition table edit. A $GT was accidentally transposed instead of being > so the edit doesn't take.07:43
huib /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Smeets1807:43
genii&gt rather than $GT07:43
keeserccanyone with the cups problems?07:43
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PhinnFortD?07:44
keeserccor questions07:44
bill57785ok, so how do I delete the sda1 partition?07:44
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PhinnFortbill57785: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"07:44
geniibill57785: You gonna do it all over again ?07:45
bill57785might as well07:45
bill57785it will go faster this time because I have everything working properly07:45
bill57785^_^07:45
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geniibill57785: Use the link I gave above. I triple-checked it for typos.07:45
frtmonsterhi, i installed the dvd library, xine, vlc, and mplayer, i have a laptop with a cdrom+dvd in one drive and i still can't get to see a fluent picture\sound this is the error i get in mplayer:  FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)07:46
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jhutchins_wkgenii: THat page says http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS is more current.07:47
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jhutchins_wkgenii: Ah, I see about the typo.07:47
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jhutchins_wkgenii: So fix it - it's a wiki!07:47
bill57785well there really is no difference between the two, not that I can see07:48
jhutchins_wkk.07:48
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|dthacke|are man pages for ntp and ntpd in a package?07:48
geniijhutchins_wk Yes, but go to the part where you are supposed to cut/paste out the command to replace the partition table and examine it. The command is a bad typo which crashes horribly because instead of a > it has a &gt in it07:48
holei'm having trouble with wine this is what happens when i type  winecfg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10067/ after this i get nothing07:49
jhutchins_wkgenii: So fix it.07:49
geniibill57785: Anyhow you could use either site but if you use the cut/paste from the wiki, replace the &gt with >07:49
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jhutchins_wkfrtmonster: Looks like wine doesn't like your video.  You running beryl or something?07:50
geniijhutchins_wk There seems no option there to edit the page. I tried yesterday07:51
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jhutchins_wkfrtmonster: Sorry. wrong nic.07:51
jhutchins_wkhole: Looks like wine doesn't like your video.  You running beryl or something?07:51
holeberyl?07:51
jhutchins_wkgenii: Well, at least you tried.07:51
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frtmonsterjhutchins xubuntu :p07:52
holei can try a different kernel i've got 3choices in grub07:52
frtmonsterok np07:52
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holejhutchkins_wk whats beryl07:53
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holeno no beryl i'm gunna try a different kernel07:54
jhutchins_wk!beryl07:54
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:54
c0nv1cthole: kernel wont matter07:54
c0nv1cthole: it looks like its complaining about missing GLX extensions07:54
jhutchins_wkhole: Yeah, maybe #wine07:54
holehow can i check to see if beryl is running07:55
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jhutchins_wkc0nv1ct: 'cept wine ought to run fine without 'em.07:55
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c0nv1cthole: it isnt, you'd know if it is07:55
c0nv1ctjhutchins_wk: thats what i thought too07:55
jhutchins_wkc0nv1ct: You would have had to work hard at it.  Beryl's very alpha software.07:55
holeoh ok it'd look neat or something?07:55
jhutchins_wkhole: More likely it'd be broken.07:55
keeserccanyone feel like helping someone with CUPS?07:55
holehaha07:55
c0nv1ctjhutchins_wk: its a page fault error, like a memory problem, or I/O07:56
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jhutchins_wkc0nv1ct: Which would happen if wine attempted to write to a GLX extension that wasn't loaded...07:56
jhutchins_wk!glx07:56
geniikeesercc Are you are having a problem with some IPP configured printer under CUPS?07:56
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
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keeserccgenii not sure, I have 4 cupsd running (or so it seems when I run ps -A | grep cupsd)07:57
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keeserccgenii is that normal?07:57
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keeserccand trying to connect to localhost:631 does nothing07:58
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jhutchins_wkkeesercc: How many printers do you have?07:58
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keeserccgenii 1, if I can get it to work :)07:58
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geniikeesercc: I'm not sure about how many instances should be running.07:59
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geniikeesercc: It is a printer that is connected directly to your network?07:59
genii(or directly to the computer)07:59
bill57785how do I unlock a folder?07:59
keeserccgenii in the var/log/cups/error_log I get Unable to bind socket for address :::631 - Address already in use.08:00
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keeserccgenii and it is connected directly to this computer, however I would eventually like to share it over my netowrk08:00
geniikeesercc: Ah, you may have started all the instances by accident then08:00
magical_baconim running ubntu 5.1 and want to change to the latest stable of kubuntu,whats the shell commands to do such a thing?08:00
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jhutchins_wkkeesercc: You should only have one.08:01
keeserccI tried to kill them, it eliminated 1 of them, but three others will not go away08:01
magical_baconkill -9?08:01
jhutchins_wkkeesercc: I would sudo killall cups, then sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start, then see if you can connect.08:01
geniikeesercc: Try   sudo /etc/init.d/cups stop     then do another ps and see if other instances are stillr unning08:01
bill57785because when I unshielded the cabinet files, they created folders that are locked, and I need into one of the folders08:01
keeserccok, I will try that08:01
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jhutchins_wk!upgrade | magical_bacon08:02
ubotumagical_bacon: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:02
geniiOr what jhutchins said :)08:02
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jhutchins_wkIf killall doesn't work, you may be just as well off rebooting.08:02
bill57785hey genii, how do I unlock a folder that I don't have permission to access?08:02
jhutchins_wkbill57785: sudo08:03
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geniibill57785: You are unable to write/mount a folder on the drive?08:03
keeserccsudo killall cupsd08:03
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd08:03
keesercc12171 ?        00:39:21 cupsd08:03
keesercc12396 ?        00:39:04 cupsd08:03
keesercc12555 ?        00:32:38 cupsd08:03
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$08:03
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bill57785when I unshielded the cabinet files, they created folders that are locked, and I need into one of the folders08:04
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jhutchins_wkkeesercc: kill -9 13171 12396 1255508:04
geniibill57785: You can mount the partition that contains it with option user, then anyone can use it08:04
jhutchins_wkbill57785: sudo chown -R 1000:1000 <folder>08:04
keeserccsudo kill -9 13171 12396 1255508:04
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd08:04
keesercc12171 ?        00:39:43 cupsd08:04
keesercc12396 ?        00:39:24 cupsd <defunct>08:04
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$08:04
keeserccsudo kill -9 12171 12396 1255508:05
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd08:05
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$08:05
jhutchins_wkkeesercc: sudo kill -9 12171 12396 && ps ax | grep cupsd08:05
keeserccok, they are ALL ded now08:05
keeserccdead08:05
bill57785thank you08:05
jhutchins_wkThere ya go, takes a min sometimes.08:05
geniikeesercc Basically kill -9 command for 12171 and 12396 as well08:05
jhutchins_wksudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start08:05
dromerhi all, I'm trying to config xinerama, but I had some problems, I got twinview to work, so I tried "combining" the device-settings, this is what I have now, but it still doesn't work: http://sneeuw.zapto.org/~dreamer/xorg.conf.xinerama08:05
geniiLOL <-- too slow08:06
keeserccsudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start08:06
keeserccsudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found08:06
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geniikeesercc try cupsys08:06
keeserccok08:06
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keeserccsudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start08:07
keesercc * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                        [ ok ] 08:07
keesercckeesercc@keesercc-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep cupsd08:07
keesercc13505 ?        00:00:00 cupsd08:07
keeserccBOOYAH!08:07
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jhutchins_wkWoohoo!  Now try http://localhost:63108:07
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keeserccI can at least access localhost:631 now!08:07
jhutchins_wkCool.08:07
jhutchins_wkkeesercc: You may find this useful: http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd08:07
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chasta123I am running live edgy cd08:08
chasta123how can I mount HDs _08:08
chasta123first, how can I see what are the name of HDs..08:09
keeserccwill trying to configure CUPS through the web interface conflict with setting it up via KDE's system settings -> printers08:09
keesercc?08:09
jhutchins_wkchasta123: Try fdisk -l08:09
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jhutchins_wkkeesercc: No, they should both read/write the same files.08:09
keeserccok, Thank you.  I appreciate all the help.08:09
bill57785this worked fine last night, and now it won't....grrrr08:10
geniikeesercc You may have to close the kde printer config window and reopen it after to see the changes08:10
jhutchins_wkkeesercc: Many of us have found that the KDE system settings didn't work, and niether did cups.  We fixed cups, and because everything was working we never checked to see if KDE was fixed too.08:10
keeserccmakes sense08:10
keeserccI think I will stick to the web interface08:10
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jhutchins_wkbill57785: Where ya stuck at?08:10
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bill57785"ls brahma-palmos.zip.?.pdb | sort | xargs -ti python unpdb.py {} - | dd skip=1 bs=32 > brahma-palmos.zip"08:11
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chasta123ok, so I found /dev/hda2            1276       15016   110374582+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)08:11
bill57785it goes through and lists the files like it is supposed to, but then it never combines them into the single zip08:11
jhutchins_wkbill57785: Which is doing what?08:11
jhutchins_wkaj.08:11
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chasta123but if I mount /dev/hda2/ /media/ it says:08:12
bill57785after it lists them, it says:08:12
bill577850+0 records in08:12
bill577850+0 records out08:12
bill577850 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.654894 seconds, 0.0 kB/s08:12
chasta123mount: special device /dev/hda2/ does not exist08:12
chasta123       (a path prefix is not a directory)08:12
jhutchins_wkchasta123: A subtlety:  /dev/hda2/ would be a directory.  You want /dev/hda208:12
chasta123ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/  ->mount: you must specify the filesystem type08:12
chasta123huh08:13
jhutchins_wkchasta123: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdat /media08:13
jhutchins_wkchasta123: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /media08:13
chasta123mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,08:13
chasta123 missing codepage or other error08:13
chasta123..08:14
chasta123I gues its NTFS08:14
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chasta123any ideas08:15
bill57785I don't know if it is a problem in my command or what08:15
bill57785that exact same command worked perfectly last night08:15
geniibill57785: No, I just checked it, it's fine08:15
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bill57785and even sudo doesn't make it work08:15
bill57785grrrr08:16
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geniibill57785: I think it's not working because it was already done earlier08:17
geniibill57785: eg: the command completes successfully but there was nothing to alter08:17
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geniibecause it feeds back to the same filename08:18
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bill57785well I started from scratch in a new folder even08:18
bill57785and the zip file that is makes (it does make one) has like 0 megs08:18
bill57785and all of the checksums come up as a bunch of zeros08:18
plhardy_bill57785: what character will '?' replace ? isn't it something like after 9 there is 10 ?08:19
geniibill57785: Ah, yes, that is no good.08:19
bill57785the "?" is for letters a through j08:19
plhardy_ok then it is not the problem08:19
bill57785and it lists them out to me, but then it doesn't combine them08:19
blekoshi what does apt-get autoremove do?08:19
jhutchins_wkchasta123: If it's an extended partition, then it's a container partition for the following partitions.  Try mounting them instead.08:20
geniibill57785: You may want to remount the partition you are working on with options so: sudo mount -o rw,user /dev/yadda /media/place08:20
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geniiWith proper dev and mountpoint o course08:20
bill57785well, I am working on the root partition08:20
bill57785so wouldn't that screw up linux?08:21
jhutchins_wkblekos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto08:21
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geniibill57785: Ah, it is not the problemmatic drive then?08:21
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bill57785nope08:21
bill57785lol08:21
geniibill57785: OK, my misconception08:21
bill57785I have to make the zip files first, then I can put it on the drive08:21
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geniibill57785: Yeah looks like you need to get the original zip again. Because that command writes back over the one it is using as input08:22
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geniiSorry, no.I am too tired to be reading code right now LOL08:23
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geniiIt has sub extensions etc etc08:24
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geniiOriginal file larger than 0 bytes??08:24
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geniibill57785: Anyhow, my cue to sleep, since I am getting bleary eyes from reading the screen08:27
chasta123ok I mounted08:27
chasta123but how can I set the acces rights08:28
chasta123sudo chmod +777 /media/hda1 _08:28
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geniichasta instead you should mount with option user set08:28
geniiBut I digress. My bed is waiting08:29
chasta123I mounted like this: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media08:29
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ubuntuHello, I'm trying to install kubuntu but the installer (QTParted) can't find any devices. "maybe you're not root"08:32
ubuntuerr. anyone know what to do?08:32
mraymaybe "you are not root"08:32
ubuntuwho's root then?08:33
mraymake sure you have enough permissions to do what you wan t to do.08:33
ubuntuhah08:33
ubuntubut what's the pass I'm on the live thingie08:33
mrayroot=admin user with ALL rights.08:33
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chasta123arh, someone alive_08:33
chasta123need to get to the partition..08:33
mrayoh you just booted from the CD?08:33
ubuntuyea08:33
chasta123dont know how to set access rights..08:34
mraystrange08:34
ubuntucould it be a sata thing?08:34
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premier_hello, I hibernated linux and then accidentally rebooted it without the "resume=" kernel option, so it did not restore my hibernated state.  How can I reset my swap partition so that it will not ever boot that state, and so my computer will not get corrupted08:36
premier_?08:36
jhutchins_wkpremier_: If you hibernate again, it should overwrite the existing file.08:37
premier_I tried swapon -a, and usually it works, but today it said: swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f93b13e6-13a3-4220-b3f7-a5c2d0b30118: Invalid argument08:37
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nileshi gang08:38
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premier_jhutchins_wk: the swap isnt loaded properly (probably because there is a corrupt hibernated state there) so I cant hibernate08:40
premier_jhutchins_wk: for future referrence, If I hibernate and my computer didnt have ACPI on, and then I restore with ACPI on, will I corrupt my computer?08:41
premier_I have trouble with ACPI and sometimes my computer wont boot, so sometimes I turn it off08:41
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one-force08:42
premier_rr?08:42
LycanNyc-workwhats new in kde 3.5.608:42
premier_LycanNyc-work: well, they fixed that bug where you always get the "big X" screensaver, even if you turn screensavers off08:42
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LycanNyc-workpremier_, hehe08:43
jhutchins_wkpremier_: I really don't know.  I suppose you can re-create the swap partition if nothing else.08:43
premier_jhutchins_wk: are you freaking serious?08:43
jhutchins_wkpremier_: No biggie.08:43
misoNewbie question, but how am I able to tell whether my kernel has USB-ACM-support?08:44
jhutchins_wkcfdisk, delete partition, re-create, it, mkswap, swapon.08:44
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LycanNyc-workwe need a new kde menu and stuff08:45
LycanNyc-worklike Suse08:45
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nysosymLycanNyc-work: i don't think so :D08:46
premier_I just can't wait until KDE408:47
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chasta123oh cmon how can I set the acces rights to /media/sda1   I am running via live cd08:47
premier_new panel system, plasma, new everything08:48
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brad_hello08:48
premier_chasta123: the live CD might do that to protect you.  do you know the root password for the CD?  its usually something like "root" or "user" or "kubuntu" or "demo"08:48
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zancdarbonjour08:49
chasta123premier: I downloaded edgy...08:49
misohi - can anyone tell me how am I can tell whether my kernel has USB-ACM-support08:49
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premier_konnichawa08:49
chasta123premier: how can I chmod this device08:49
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Skrotmiso: cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep -i acm08:50
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AMSmith42Somehow I got Adept Manager to open every time I boot into KDE. Not just in the background, but in it's window. How do I make it silent?08:51
misoSkrot: thanks. Reply is08:51
miso# CONFIG_FB_MACMODES is not set08:51
misoCONFIG_USB_ACM=m08:51
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HaSHhello all im wondering how i can make the command cd .. into cd..(notice no space) anyone know how?08:51
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brad_I've got a somewhat stupid question.  I just picked up a Vantec hard drive enclosure, popped in a drive and I can't seem to make it work.  I plugged it into my USB port and nothing at all is happening.  The USB port is good, or at least it works with my thumb drive.  Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to tweak something to get it to recognize an external HD?08:51
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Skrotmiso: Then you've got USB ACM built as a module. Try sudo modprobe cdc-acm08:52
AMSmith42Hash: Could you do an alias?08:52
HaSHAMSmith42, how might i go about setting one up?08:52
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AMSmith42lol08:52
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adz_I am having a few problems with ubuntu08:52
AMSmith42HaSH: I don't know.08:52
misoSkrot: thanks - no result on the modprobe08:52
HaSHAMSmith42, doe! ;-)08:52
adz_for some reason, it can't do any resolutions higher than 600x40008:53
AMSmith42hash: I was just tossing an idea out there.08:53
AMSmith42:P08:53
Skrotmiso: lsmod | grep -i acm should tell you that cdc-asm is loaded :)08:53
adz_It worked before, but now it dosn't08:53
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adz_does anybody know why this would happen08:53
HaSHits all good im sure ill figure it out08:53
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Skrotadz_: Try grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if anything interesting shows up. Font-config stuff is not relevant.08:54
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magical_baconi used aptitude to switch from ubuntu to kubntu and now want to remove the ubunt desktop but its didsapeerred from aptuitude?wold apt-get -i ubuntu-desktop work?08:54
AMSmith42HaSH: alias cd..='cd ..'08:54
misoSkrot - thanks! Finally managed to get my Moto v3i working with moto4lin!08:54
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Skrotmiso: Nice =)08:55
AMSmith42HaSH: Of course, there is probably a way to make that happen everytime you open a console, but I can't help you there.08:55
adz_skrot: I type that in my console?08:56
KidNabreI'm having some trouble installing kubuntu, it can't find my hard drive, it's there in bios but it can't detect it. Anyone knows what to do? thx08:56
Skrotadz_: Yupp08:56
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magical_baconwould that work?08:56
Skrotadz_: "grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log" without the "'s08:57
nileshi08:57
nilesW: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA08:57
Skrotniles: wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -08:57
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magical_baconalso after swihing to kubuntu my computer still says its running ubuntu under the help menu08:58
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magical_baconill just play with apt-get and hope i dont break my compter for the seconf time today08:58
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nilesthanx08:59
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Daskreechcrimsun: ping09:03
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Raven301What firewall do you guys use with kubuntu??09:06
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michael___Raven301: fkirestarter09:07
stdinRaven301: iptables, what else :P09:07
michael___!kfirestarter09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kfirestarter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
MoltovEllo, anyone good at getting grub to work right after having installed w2k to a partition(my other os, is kubuntu, of course.) I found instructions to make it "work again" but all it can see is kubuntu...09:07
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MoltovAnd well, #grub is a deadzone.09:07
Daskreech!firewall09:08
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:08
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Raven301thanks michael___ stdin Daskreech09:08
michael___Moltov: you must run grub-update09:09
michael___more precisely "sudo grub-update"09:10
konokohow can i use kde applications on gnome? Sorry im a newbie so i dont know and did not understand09:10
stdinkonoko: yeah, sure09:10
Daskreechkonoko: apt-get install them09:10
DaskreechThen just click on them09:10
konokobut are not them different platforms?09:10
michael___konoko: nope...09:10
Daskreechkonoko: They use different libraries09:11
DaskreechThey can co exist just fine09:11
konokoi c09:11
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stdinkonoko: they just use different ways to draw the graphics, they will work together tho09:11
michael___konoko: you can even run one on top of the other!!09:11
MoltovMichael: Ummm,... That doesnt do anything. It says command not found.09:11
konokoso not like different distros, ubuntu and kubuntu09:11
michael___did yuo put a sudo?09:12
MoltovYes.09:12
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MoltovAnd that wouldnt be the error if i didnt in the first place.09:12
stdinMoltov: try update-grub not grub-update09:12
ChetwinHey all!  How do I change the kControl Center back to it's default view!??!09:12
konokoso is it possible to run kopete on gnome?09:12
Moltovstdin: MUCH better ^.^09:12
michael___stdin: thanks09:12
michael___konoko: yes09:12
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ChetwinAnyone anyone09:13
Chetwin!kcontrol09:13
ubotukcontrol: control center for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 2815 kB, installed size 9008 kB09:13
stdinkonoko: anything you can install in adept, you can run09:13
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ChetwinAnyone?09:13
michael___Chetwin: did you use to have it in Kubunut?09:14
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stdinChetwin: delete ~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc , that will reset it to default09:14
eidos_09:15
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Chetwinstdin: thank you09:15
MoltovMichael/stdin/anyone helpfull: After having run sudo update-grub and rebooting, it still doesnt give me the option to boot w2k in the list09:15
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ChetwinAgrivating09:15
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stdinMoltov: is windows on the 1st partition on the disk?09:16
Moltovstdin: Sort-of...09:16
stdinMoltov: sort-of? how?09:16
Moltovstdin: Well, Disk wise its at the begining of the disk, is it the #1 partition in labeling, i dont know...09:17
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Moltovstdin: ^.^ i think ill check09:17
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magical_baconkde andgnome are 2 seperate things, you an downloAD AND INSALL THE KDE-DESKTOP Package and then you can run it09:18
stdinMoltov: well, it needs to be on the 1st partition , or windows won't boot anyway09:18
magical_baconim trying to get rid of ubuntu and switch to kubuntu ive installed the kubuntu-desktop package,but still have the gnome lok and feel,so i uninstaled the ubuntu-desktop package and my compter still acts like ubntu?09:19
magical_bacondo i need the uunt-standerd package for my kde desktop to work?09:19
Moltovstdin: Well, ^.^ Windows 2k+ anyway... come to think of it ive read bout it...09:19
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Chetwinstdin: sorry, I couldn't find the file09:19
Moltovstdin: Mind aint quite awake ^.^'09:19
stdinmagical_bacon: have you tried "sudo apt-get autoremove" and/or "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop" ?09:20
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michael___magical_bacon: you need to choose KDE in the sessions menu in the login manager09:20
ChetwinLooking to revert Kontrol Center's look back to default.  Any ideas?09:20
magical_baconahh09:20
stdinChetwin: it will be a hidden directory ~/ means your home directory09:20
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ChetwinYes I know09:20
Chetwinkde/share/09:20
Chetwinthere is kcontrolrc09:20
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ChetwinI deleted that, it didn't work09:20
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michael___Chetwin: aer you opening the control center right off the menu?09:21
Silveira_NetoWhere can I find the version of my Kubuntu?09:21
stdin!version | Silveira_Neto09:21
Chetwinyes09:21
Chetwinkcontrol09:21
ubotuSilveira_Neto: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell09:21
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HaSHAMSmith42, ahh k thanks ill do that for the mean time :-)09:21
michael___are you sure you aren't opening "control center"?09:21
Silveira_Netoubotu: thanks! Worked!09:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks! worked! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:22
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stdinSilveira_Neto: ubotu is a bot :)09:22
stdin!bot09:22
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:22
michael___Chetwin: alt+f2 and then type kcontrol09:22
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Silveira_Netothanks bot!09:23
stdin!botsnack09:23
ubotuYum!09:23
michael___unless you WANT the old Kubuntu control center09:23
ChetwinThat's why I need to change it back in the first place!!! My kde keyboard shortcuts don't work!09:23
michael___oh... right click on the desktop and click run command09:23
ChetwinAnd when I open kcontrol, I don't have the option for keyboard shortcuts because kubuntu removes the "complicated" things from view09:23
michael___right...09:23
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ChetwinVery nice, thank you!09:24
michael___you're welcome09:24
Moltovstdin: So what exactly constitutes it being the first parition?...09:24
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stdinMoltov: it being on the 1st primary partition09:25
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dromercan someone please help me extend my desktop over my geforce2 svideo to a tv? :(  I've been trying twinview, but then I have just another desktop (I used this guide for that: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456), but I want to extend the main desktop so I can drag programs etc.09:25
Moltovstdin: As in refered to as hda1? or...?09:25
stdinMoltov: on linux, it's called /dev/hda1 (for the 1st primary partition of the 1st master drive)09:25
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Moltovstdin: ^.^' i use gparted for such things nowadays, so that is indeed what it refers to it as.09:25
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dromersomeone told me to try xinerama, but this doesn't work at all09:26
keeserccubotu CUPS09:26
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:26
stdinMoltov: so, it on the 1st partition then, good :)09:26
Daskreech!sound09:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:26
Silveira_NetoI broke all my apt-get and Adept, I have to confess that I modified the /etc/apt/source.list, where can I find an original source.list for Kubuntu 6.10? This would solve my problem?09:27
stdinMoltov: it's quite simple to add windows to grub if it's not detecting it09:27
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Moltovstdin: Well, its not detecting it, and its on hda3 ^.^' which is probobly why.09:27
stdinSilveira_Neto: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list is a good one09:27
keesercc!CUPS09:27
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keesercc!botsnack09:27
ubotuYum!09:27
stdinMoltov: ahh, than you need to have it on hda1 ( I think, I don't have windows ), I think there is a way to "trick" it tho09:28
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dromersorry09:28
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keesercc!linux09:28
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux09:28
dromerhehe09:29
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Moltovstdin: I think ive herd that too, though i also imagine theres a way to swap hda1(currently kubuntu) and hda3 around...09:29
iamsam9895Is 53 degrees celcius too hot for a processor?09:29
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MoltovHell no.09:29
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iamsam9895Phew.09:29
dromerhehe09:29
MoltovMost semprons run idle in the 60s.09:29
MoltovCelci.09:29
stdiniamsam9895: that's cool for a cpu09:29
iamsam9895This is an athlon.09:29
MoltovOh, well, thats about normal then.09:30
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iamsam9895Wow, I don't even have my case fan on.09:30
MoltovItll build up if you run it ragged without one.09:30
iamsam9895I left it on overnight.09:30
iamsam9895With no case fan09:30
MoltovThats not running it ragged.09:30
XenThraLquestion, I wanted to install kompile from the adept package manager, but when I choose to do it, it says "BROKEN (install)"09:30
iamsam9895True.09:30
XenThraLso, I didn't install it09:30
XenThraLwhat does this mean?09:31
MoltovRunning it ragged would be running it at near 100% preformance for a fair while.09:31
ForgeAustheres an unmet dependancy Xen09:31
XenThraLshouldn't it go fetch all of them automatically?09:31
ForgeAusyou do have kdesu (the unmet dependancy, its part of Kubuntu's base install), but adept/kompile doesn't know that ...09:31
ForgeAusso you can't install it that way09:31
Silveira_Neto I'm goingo to install kde4libs via aptget. He told me that he would remove theses packages: hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop libqt4-core libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql pyqt4-dev-tools python-qt4 qt4-designer qt4-dev-tools qt4-qtconfig speedcrunch. Is this safe? Mostly are packages that I installed after installed Kubuntu.09:31
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ForgeAuswell you could I guess if you can get the .deb you might be able to extract the binaries from it and put them in the right place ... unless its a source package09:32
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nileswhats the difference between beryl and glx ?09:32
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XenThraLForgeAus: I'll try that then09:32
XenThraLthank you09:32
ForgeAusBeryl is a windowsmanager/3D desktop environment09:32
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nileserr i mean xgl09:32
ForgeAusglx is the framework it runs on09:32
dromer!xgl09:32
ForgeAusor one of them09:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:32
nilesahh thanx fellaz09:33
ForgeAusCompiz is analogous to Beryl in that little explaination there09:33
ForgeAusalso if your running Beryl for KDE you probably want Aquamarine (to keep your window decorators)09:33
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stdinMoltov: 1st, I'd try just to boot it normally, by adding this to your /boot/grub/menu.lst http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/1409:34
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Moltovstdin: Altering it for the correct partition for the 2k install, i assume09:36
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stdinMoltov: if it's hda3, then you want (hd0,4)09:37
nilesso what is a composite manager?  sorry my terminology is shady. im asuming beryl cant run with out xgl ?09:37
Moltovstdin: Mmm, realy...09:37
Moltovstdin: Thats a bit odd numbering, but ok09:37
stdinMoltov: grub starts at 0, so hda1 is hd0,009:37
nilesoh it's analoguous09:37
Moltovstdin: wouldnt that make it hd0,2 then? by logical progression?09:38
stdinMoltov: yeah, :P it would09:38
Moltovstdin: ^.^'09:38
stdinMoltov: it's getting late here09:38
stdinMoltov: hda3 = hd0,209:38
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Moltovstdin: Thats ok, i havent truethuflly slept in about two days... half slept sorta... yes... but lol09:39
wildchildhow do I check where is something mounted_09:39
wildchildpartitions..09:39
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stdinwildchild: type "mount"09:39
nilesmount command09:39
Silveira_Neto I'm goingo to install kde4libs via aptget. He told me that he would remove theses packages: hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop libqt4-core libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql pyqt4-dev-tools python-qt4 qt4-designer qt4-dev-tools qt4-qtconfig speedcrunch. Is this safe? Mostly are packages that I installed after installed Kubuntu.09:39
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bpetterthello09:39
bpetterthow do i config grub?09:40
wildchildso I gave mounted /dev/hda1 on /media type ntfs (rw)09:40
wildchildhow can I set the rigths to acces this poin??09:40
wildchildpoint09:40
bpetterthow do i config grub?09:40
stdinSilveira_Neto: I wouldn't reccommend that, a lot of that looks like it's to do with Qt, which is essential to KDE09:40
wildchildchmod 777 /media  ??09:40
keeserccbpettert /boot/grub/menu.lst09:40
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bpettertthenks09:41
stdinwildchild: you'll want a umask, in the mount settings09:41
keeserccbpettert: you are welcom09:41
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stdinwildchild: and you don't want to mount it at /media09:41
wildchildstdin: I mounted it to /media09:41
muxmanhola a todos09:41
wildchildstdin whre else can I mount it09:42
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stdinwildchild: somewhere in /media (like /media/windows) or to another directory (like /windows). /media is used to mount other things to as well, like CDs and removeable media09:43
Moltovstdin: Well, here we go...09:43
stdinwildchild: which won't work if you have something mounted over /media09:43
stdinMoltov: hope it works09:44
sparrwhow can i find out the filename for a kde panel applet?09:44
Moltovstdin: Error 8: Kernal must be loaded before booting.09:44
wildchildstdin: sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/win        mount: mount point /media/win does not exist09:44
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stdinwildchild: you have to make the directory first (sudo mkdir /media/win)09:45
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ozzcomethello. i've just installed kubuntu 6.06 x86_64. because 6.10 is the latest version, adept made it easy for me and upgraded my soft. before that i've managed to install the nvidia drivers and even rendered some blender scenes. after the upgrade and after a reboot the x-server refused to start invoking "fatal error: no screens found". i've tried to revert the xorg.conf setting to the original ones and so i managed to start the x server but without09:45
ozzcometany nvidia support. can anyone help me with this issue? thank you!09:45
stdinMoltov: give this one a go then http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/1509:46
wildchildstdin: sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/win09:46
wildchildmount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist09:46
wildchild       (a path prefix is not a directory)09:46
stdinwildchild: you put a '/' after hda1, don't, mount it like this (copy and paste if you want): sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/win09:47
Moltovstdin: *chuckles* okay, just waiting for kubuntu to boot up again then ^.^ p3-800 aint got much of a punch09:47
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stdinwildchild: if you want write access (and have ntfs-3g installed) sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/win -t ntfs-3g -o umask=000009:48
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nilesso it is either a choice between xgl or beryl. correct?09:50
nilesneither is a prerequisite for the other, right?09:50
Moltovstdin: Same exact error.09:51
stdinMoltov: hmm09:51
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stdinMoltov: can you post the menu.lst file to pastebin please?09:51
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johnhow come the file dialog never shows all of the root ?  all i see is home and media .... why is that ?09:52
stdin!hidden | john09:52
ubotujohn: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:52
jhutchinsniles: I believe that beryl requires xgl of some sort.09:52
johnklolololol,l09:52
johnwhy are you removing it ?09:52
johnits sorta a good idea for regular users....09:52
Moltovstdin: That would be wonderfull... If the computer i was doing all the fiddling on was online.09:52
stdinjohn: because people hated it :P09:52
jhutchinsniles: beryl is a window manager, xgl a graphics support layer.09:52
johnbut seriosly right now im trying to install appollon its asking me where giFT is located and it wiont even let me type in the full path ffs09:53
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Moltovstdin: Infortunately, it HATES my only spare wireless card... And well, lets leave that at that.09:53
stdinMoltov: ahh, ok then :P09:53
Moltovstdin: but. i can transpose that which isnt commented out fairly easy... though i cant gerentee perfect spelling across09:53
johnan d where is the home icon lol ?09:54
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musashidenHello everyone09:56
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firemonkeyballzumm I cant get the upgrade tool to run09:56
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musashidenI was wondering if anyone could redirect me to the wiki page that explains how to add harddrives to kubuntu09:56
musashidenor maybe a program?09:57
firemonkeyballzI have the gnome packages installed for it09:57
firemonkeyballzand the program runs09:57
firemonkeyballzhowever09:57
firemonkeyballzit quits after it downloads09:57
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hyper_chmusashiden: you added a new harddrive/partition to your computer?09:58
musashidenyes hyper09:58
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musashidena new harddrive09:58
jhutchinsfiremonkeyballz: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update09:58
hyper_chmusashiden: is it formatted already?09:58
firemonkeyballzIve heard thats not recomended09:58
hyper_chjhutchins: you mean ... && sudo apt-get upgrade :)09:59
musashidenhyper_ch: yes it is formated, it has my windows installation in it. i just want to retrieve my files from it09:59
stdinMoltov: just reading some grub manuals, give this a go http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/1709:59
jhutchinshyper_ch: Woops.  Cat on keyboard, sorry.09:59
hyper_chmusashiden: ok, open a shell terminal and enter the following command. Put the output then into a pastebin:    sudo fdisk -l09:59
jhutchins(actually, cat between me and screen)09:59
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jhutchinsfiremonkeyballz: We just recommended it to you, so I don't know where you heard that.09:59
hyper_chjhutchins: hehehe :)09:59
johnhow do i get a shortcut to the home drive ?10:00
jhutchinsjohn: Where?10:00
jhutchinsjohn: What part of the drive?10:00
hyper_chfiremonkeyballz: instead of sudo apt-get upgrade I would use   sudo aptitude upgrade --> aptitude also installed the recommended additional packages with it... apt-get doesn't :)10:00
firemonkeyballzhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades10:00
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Moltovstdin: WHEWH here it is... http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/1810:01
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musashidenhyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10088/10:01
johnjhutchins:  the little home icon......10:01
Moltovstdin: That, took bloody forever.10:01
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khirrhow can i change my kde theme?10:02
jhutchinsAh.  Right click desktop, create link to ~/ .10:02
hyper_chjhutchins: that's for up0grading from dapper 6.06 to edgy 6.1010:02
stdin!changethemes10:02
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu10:02
jhutchinsjohn: Ah.  Right click desktop, create link to ~/ .10:02
stdinkhirr: ^^10:02
hyper_chmusashiden: you know how to open (as root) a file?10:02
khirr?10:02
khirr!changetheme10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
jhutchinshyper_ch: you're thinking dist-upgrade.10:02
musashidenhyper_ch: yes, i do10:02
khirr!changethemes10:02
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu10:02
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hyper_chjhutchins: don't dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy... it's not working good... better to make a clean install10:03
stdinMoltov: looks ok, give my (revised) version a go10:03
khirrwhat's the diference between dapper and edgy?10:03
Moltovstdin: Ive tried it as it currently is...10:03
hyper_chmusashiden: ok, then open fstab -->   sudo nano /etc/fstab10:03
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Moltovstdin: it gave the same exact error.10:04
jhutchinshyper_ch: Clean installs are always preferred, but the upgrade worked fine for many.10:04
stdinMoltov: this one http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/17 ?10:04
hyper_chjhutchins: the upgrade didn't work fine for a lot of people also :)10:04
musashidenhyper_ch: done10:04
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crimsunDaskreech: pong10:04
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gemidjyhi..how can I rebuild the KMenu with default Kubuntu settings ?10:04
Moltovstdin: No.... you never tossed that one at me i could see, gimme a sec lol10:04
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Daskreechcrimsun: Was trying to get my sound sorted10:05
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ltpitthello there =)10:05
hyper_chmusashiden: add this line:    /dev/sda1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       110:05
crimsunDaskreech: I don't have time atm, very busy. Check back in 90 minutes.10:05
stdinMoltov: yeah I did: [20:59]  <stdin> Moltov: just reading some grub manuals, give this a go http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/17 :P10:05
Daskreechcrimsun: Will do10:05
ltpittanybody is able to give me a hand for wine installation? :)10:05
hyper_chmusashiden: then save and exit fstab10:05
musashidenhyper_ch: okay, but shouldn't i first create the /media/sda1 folder?10:05
c0nv1ctanyone here compiled a custom kernel in edgy?10:05
hyper_chmusashiden: no, we can do that afterwards :) it will not automatically be added :) you'll need to reboot and then it will be mounted as read-only...10:06
hyper_chmusashiden: but before rebot we create the folder :)10:06
Moltovstdin: Shoudnt all those 3s be 2s? or?10:06
musashidenread only?10:06
musashidenhyper_ch: what if i want to write to it?10:06
hyper_chmusashiden: ntfs is not recommended to write to... if you want that you will need the ntfs-3g drivers10:06
stdinMoltov: yeah, sorry, I copy & pasted most of that :P10:06
hyper_chmusashiden: and then you need to alter that entry... but I've never done that.... and I never will10:07
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musashidenhyper_ch: i see10:07
hyper_chmusashiden: for sharing between you can install the ext3 drivers in windows (that's safe) or use fat32 as transitory drive10:07
gemidjyhow can I rebuild the KMenu with default Kubuntu settings ?10:07
hyper_ch(however fat32 has no journaling and supports no files bigger than 2gb)10:07
ltpittanybody is able to give me a hand for wine installation? :) I've tried with information from wine hq (I have kubuntu) but no luck... BTW I can't find it in synaptic :/10:08
hyper_chmusashiden: you said you wanted to copy over fromt he ntfs drive :) hence ro access is enough... for everything else you'll have to look up google for ntfs-3g10:08
firemonkeyballzok I got a public key error10:08
musashidenhyper_ch: okay, let me reboot. thanks for the help10:08
Moltovstdin: Same, error 8, again.10:08
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hyper_chmusashiden: did you create the dir?10:08
hyper_chmusashiden: you need to do that before reboot10:08
musashidenhyper_ch: yes10:08
hyper_chmusashiden: good :)10:08
zorglu_q. is there a tool to easily convert the format of a video ?10:09
stdinMoltov: I have no clue then, you may have to "move" the partitions about10:09
hyper_chzorglu_: converting formats is not recommended10:09
stdinhyper_ch: why not?10:09
zorglu_hyper_ch: well i would like to do it. is there any tool for it ?10:09
Moltovstdin: Im perfectly willing to alter the partitions, i couldnt find the command in gparted, kubuntu have something akin?10:09
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xerosiszorglu_: check 'man mplayer'10:10
hyper_chzorglu_: don't know about a tool... because normally the formats are compressed and you will loose quality when you convert into another non-lossless format10:10
zorglu_xerosis: this is hardly a 'easy tool'10:10
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MoltovStdin: And gparteds website terrifys me more than M$s database10:10
hyper_chzorglu_: "easy" is a very wide term10:10
zorglu_hyper_ch: ok, this is exactly what i want :) to loose quality :)10:10
hyper_chzorglu_: then go ahead :)10:10
firemonkeyballz<hyper_ch> I have a public key error10:11
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zorglu_hyper_ch: well so is there any tool to do it easily  ?10:11
hyper_chzorglu_: don't know :)10:11
zorglu_hyper_ch: hehe :)10:11
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stdinMoltov: well the Kubuntu disk uses Qtparted, which is mostly the same, but a KDE version, but Gparted is more stable and if you are messing with partitions, you want stable10:11
hyper_chfiremonkeyballz: I wouldn't upgrade from dapper to edgy... I've never done it and hence I don't know what's wrong there :)10:11
firemonkeyballz!upgrade10:12
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:12
MoltovMoltov: haha, hear you there, used to use partionmagic10:12
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hyper_chzorglu_: I just did a general anotation to quality-loss... you know, a lot of people want to convert mp3s to their ipod... and they'll loose quality without knowing :) I thought you might be such a case10:12
Moltover10:12
nileshow can i tell if i have a particular package currently installed?10:12
Moltov>.<10:12
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zorglu_hyper_ch: no problem :)10:12
hyper_chniles: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE10:13
stdinMoltov: in Gparted, you want "resize/move" from the "Partition" menu10:13
MoltovStdin: I seem to be talking to myself again there... lol10:13
hyper_chniles: it tells you if it's up-to-date or current10:13
Moltovstdin: I tried that, it didnt seem to have any option for actualy moving it10:13
Moltovstdin: resizing it twelve different ways to sunday... but...10:13
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nilesoh right10:13
nilesof course10:13
nilesdarrr10:13
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hyper_chniles: that's the only way I know how to check it... but there are also other methods, I'm certain of it... :)10:14
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hyper_ch49 packages to upgrade :)10:15
stdinMoltov: yeah, I can't find it either10:15
Moltovstdin: Im in gparted... I have no clue how to do that from here... but im in it...10:15
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stdinMoltov: if you have partition magic, you may want to dust off that disk10:16
johnhow  come teh gift library only has 2 of the supported protocols ?10:16
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Moltovstdin: Sadly, the versions so old it doenst handle nfts well.10:16
Moltovstdin: No clue what it would think of ext310:16
FoggeOk, just got an interesting error in Konversation10:16
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FoggeThe nickname and text of the person im chatting with in query is black (on my black background), how do i fix that?10:17
stdinMoltov: I bet it would be fine with ext3, it's open source, anyone can take the code for it10:17
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MoltovStdin: Yes yes... But does it know ext3 EXISTS... is the better question....10:18
MoltovStdin: That said, i have no clue where that disk is ^.^' so... *does some searching of gparteds stuf*10:18
stdinMoltov: yeah, it's been around for a long time, a very long time10:18
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stdinMoltov: I'd say to try asking on #ubuntu , as it's not Kubuntu specific, it's more low level10:20
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hyper_chstdin: well, it's not ubuntu specific either what moltov is asking10:21
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stdinhyper_ch: but there may be people in #ubuntu that know more about it than me10:22
hyper_chstdin: ah :)10:22
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MoltovStdin: Yeah, at this point i was thinkin that myself, so ciao for now10:23
stdingood luck Moltov10:23
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yannicksalut les nerds10:23
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hyper_ch!fr | yannick10:23
ubotuyannick: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:23
Aiwuucan i have a printer in kubuntu?10:26
hyper_chAiwuu: yes you can10:26
MorboHuh?10:26
Aiwuuhyper_ch how.O10:27
Aiwuui need a driver or waht?10:27
hyper_chAiwuu: depends on your printer10:27
zorglu_!printer | Aiwuu10:27
ubotuAiwuu: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:27
zorglu_this may help10:27
Aiwuumay a HP LaserJet?10:27
MorboHPs should be fine10:27
MorboMine worked out-of-the-box10:28
Morbo"Works here" isn't the best argument/thing to say10:28
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hyper_chAiwuu: was it connected when you installed kubuntu?10:28
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Aiwuuno10:28
Aiwuu:S10:29
hyper_chAiwuu: have a look at those pages above..10:29
Aiwuuok10:29
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holewhat is the console command to resolve a www.website.com address to an ip10:35
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holeis there one?10:35
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konokohello10:36
konokoi couldnt find kopete for ubuntu10:36
hyper_chhole: ping website.com10:36
holeokthx10:36
konokois there a package that'd avoid me using source code?10:36
FoggeIs there a way to edit/hide my hostmask in Konversation?10:37
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alexander__hello10:37
eilkersudo apt get install kubuntu-desktop // is it correct ?10:37
eilkerand enough ?10:37
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konokois there a package of Kopete for ubuntu/kubuntu?10:37
alexander__is there any good msn client for edgy?10:37
hyper_cheilker:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   but I'd rather use:   sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop10:38
eilker!kopete10:38
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB10:38
stdinkonoko: you can install the package "host" too, so you can do "host example.com" to get an IP, or "host ip" to get a domain10:38
hyper_chalexander__: aMSN10:38
eilker!amsn10:38
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB10:38
eilker!gaim10:38
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.10:38
eilkerhyper_ch: thanx10:38
konokostdin: __?10:38
alexander__thanx10:38
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stdinkonoko: wrong person :P10:38
konoko:P10:39
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konokoi tried a lot but could not find a package for kopete :(10:39
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hyper_chkonoko: sudo apt-get install kopete10:39
stdinkonoko: check your sources if that fails10:39
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johnok i installed wine and i now i have a right click menu that says that i can run the program with the wine emulation... .great but i want it to work with all exe's just by clicking.... why doesn't it do this by default ?10:40
konokoit says10:40
konokoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:40
konokoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:40
stdinkonoko: close adept, if you have it open10:40
konokoim running automatix2?10:41
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stdinkonoko: ahhh, close that damn thing10:41
stdinclose it, then delete it, then forget it10:41
konokostdin: damn? is not it something good?10:41
konokoo_O10:41
stdin!automatix10:42
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:42
konokoim a newbie10:42
konokoouccch10:42
konokoooooooucccch10:42
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konokodamn forums10:42
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konokoi did not know that10:42
stdinit's a nice idea for an app, but it's far to dangerous to use10:42
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konokoi've installed several programs with automatix in the last hour10:43
konokoseems nice but10:43
konokomay there be a problem after a restart etc?10:44
beig1hi, i'm using kubuntu 6.10 .. how can i change the symbol from a link on the desktop ? i havent found anything in the properties from the link :(((10:44
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stdinkonoko: stop while you have a working system10:44
konokobeig1: click on the no icon thing10:44
konokostdin: its downloading cliparts for openoffice10:44
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konokocan i cut it off now?10:44
bonbonthejonbeig1: right click, properties, then click on the icon on the window that pops up10:44
stdinbeig1: open the properties, and click the icon10:44
konokoor would waiting to finish be better?10:44
stdinkonoko: let it finish that, don't want to mess things up by killing it10:45
beig1omg .. i feel ashame :x10:45
konoko^^10:45
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konokoits interesting10:47
konokoi stayed for a half hour without identifying my nickname10:47
konokofreenode lets it10:47
konoko*hmm10:47
bonbonthejonkonoko: have you looked at all the software in adept?10:47
konokobonbonthejon: What is adept? im newbie10:48
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bonbonthejon!adept | konoko10:48
ubotukonoko: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:48
konokoah10:48
konokoi looked at there, i couldnt find10:48
stdinI bet automatix has mess with your sources10:49
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konoko:(10:49
bonbonthejonstdin: more than likely10:49
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eilker!xgl10:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:50
bonbonthejonkonoko: are you using dapper or edgy?10:50
konokobonbonthejon: edgy10:51
bonbonthejonkonoko: 32-bit or 64-bit?10:51
konoko32bit10:51
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bonbonthejonkonoko: here is a good sources.list for you, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10095/10:52
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konokosooo slowwwww 0_o10:53
konokoautomatix S:10:53
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konokobonbonthejon: thanks a lot ^^10:53
bmgswhat packages do i need to install to have kde headers ?10:53
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konokobonbonthejon: how can i use these sources?10:54
stdinbmgs: just install kde-devel, should give you all the KDE stuff10:55
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bmgsthx10:55
bonbonthejonkonoko: when automatix is done, hit alt-f2, type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list", get rid of what is in the file, and paste in the stuff I sent you, save, open konsole, then run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"10:55
Silveira_Netobmgs: Wooow! I'm tring to do the same thing for 4 hour... Good luck. Lets help each other ok. :-)10:56
firemonkeyballzx64 flash if any of you are interested here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29078510:56
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stdinfiremonkeyballz: there is a guide on the help pages too10:57
konokokdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list did not work10:57
stdin!flash6410:57
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava10:57
bmgsi got it10:57
konokoalt+f2 could not find it :(10:57
stdinkonoko: press those keys10:57
konokoi did and pasted kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the bar10:57
konokoit could not find it10:57
bmgsSilveira_Neto from where r u ?10:58
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firemonkeyballzwell umm heres a thought if I edit my source list with servers that have a freaking key10:58
firemonkeyballzthat are good sources10:58
konokobonbonthejon: Could not open location 'file:///kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'10:58
firemonkeyballzI might just be able to use edgy10:58
firemonkeyballzkonoko doood dont open it that way10:58
Silveira_Netobmgs: Brazil, Fortaleza.10:58
stdinkonoko: without the quotes10:59
firemonkeyballzgotta start dinner brb10:59
bmgswe speak almost the same lang ;) pt_BR, pt_pt10:59
konokoyup i wrote just this : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:59
konokodoesnt work :S11:00
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stdinkonoko: just try: kdesu kate11:00
konokoim using ubuntu?11:00
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stdinkonoko: ubuntu or kubuntu?11:00
konokoubuntu11:01
konokognome :S11:01
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stdinkonoko: heh, ok, you didn't mention that :P11:01
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konoko:P11:01
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stdinkonoko: use: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:01
konokoi was asking for kopete, i thought since it is a kde program, kubuntu is the right place to ask ^^11:01
konokoshould i rechange it?11:02
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Asixcan I ask a question?11:03
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stdinkonoko: use that command to open the file, delete whatever is in there, and paste in what bonbonthejon gave you11:03
konokoim chaingin it with the bonbonthejon's list?11:03
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konokook11:03
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stdin!ask | Asix11:03
ubotuAsix: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:03
konokostdin: i did erm now?11:03
konokosaved the file11:03
Asixwhat's the best way to convert .flv to .avi or .mpg or anything standard thing?11:04
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AsixI'm using kubuntu 6.10 btw11:04
stdinkonoko: ok, now open konsole (from Kmenu -> System -> Konsole)11:04
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konokoyup11:04
jhutchinsAsix: ffmpeg, mencoder, avidemux, there are a bunch of tools.11:04
jhutchinsAsix: There's a package called tovid that aids in making DVD's.11:04
stdinkonoko: and type in: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade11:05
dere45hi, i am searching for a KDE program with thich you can sort your open windows. I know that there exists a program in the multiverse (at least i think so). But can't remember its name.   This program sorted all open windows (with screenshots) on your desk and you could switch between programs by clicking on the screenshots. anyone an idea?11:05
Asixwell I don't need DVDs, just plain DivX or Xvid video11:05
jhutchinskonoko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto11:05
firemonkeyballzdude jhuchins dont give ppl the hard way11:06
konokothanks a lot stdin, bonbonthejon, jhutchins, firemonkeyballz ^^11:06
stdinkonoko: you should be able to find kopete now11:07
jhutchinsfiremonkeyballz: How else are you going to learn?11:07
konokoactually i did :)11:07
konokofrom the first code that you gave11:07
stdinjhutchins: by asking questions11:07
jhutchinsI refer to that howto regularly.11:07
firemonkeyballzI'll learn with out fubaring my system thanx11:07
konokofiremonkeyballz: i did search a lot before asking11:07
konokobut im a newbie so there are lots of stuff that i dont understand11:08
jhutchinsfiremonkeyballz: I figured he had the basics of what he wanted, now he could use some background info.11:08
Asixok now if someone could get back to my question? :D11:08
konokoor dangerous ones that i dont know how dangerous they are - like automatix11:08
stdinkonoko: it was probably automatix that gave you the problems, it would have changed your package sources list11:08
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konokohow can i delete automatix? from apt-get or file manager?11:09
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stdinkonoko: how did you install it?11:09
konokoi installed it with some codes from the console11:10
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konokodunno how :S just found on a forum11:10
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stdinkonoko: try the apt-get way11:10
stdinkonoko: sudo apt-get remove automatix11:10
stdinkonoko: or, sudo apt-get remove automatix2 (not sure which)11:10
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konokoPackage automatix is not installed, so not removed11:10
konoko:S11:10
konokoautomatix2 works ^^11:11
konokoi deleted it thanks a lot11:11
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stdin:)11:11
firemonkeyballz!easy-install11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easy-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
firemonkeyballz!easy11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
firemonkeyballz!source11:12
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html11:12
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firemonkeyballz!source-list11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source-list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
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fernandohi, any body here use Kdevelop???11:13
konoko!ubotu11:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:13
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jhutchinsfiremonkeyballz: If you're gonna play with the bot, use /msg so you don't flood the channel.11:14
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firemonkeyballzlike im going to place 100 lines in one ms11:15
stdinfiremonkeyballz: use a query then11:16
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firemonkeyballzyour definition of flood is warped11:16
stdinor join #ubuntu-bots11:16
stdin!botabuse11:16
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:16
frtmonsteri try to open a midi file with 'kmid' and it says some other program uses the /dev/sequencer/ - what's the prob here?11:17
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stdinfrtmonster: maybe another app is using it, try "sudo lsof | grep sequencer" to see if it is (in konsole)11:19
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frtmonsterstdin: what are lsof and grep11:19
frtmonsterstdin: it did nothing, atleast it seems11:20
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stdinfrtmonster: lsof = list open files, and grep = search for a string in text, so the command searches for "sequencer" in the output of lsof11:20
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stdinfrtmonster: if nothing was shown, then it looks like it should be working11:21
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frtmonsterstdin: thanks11:22
frtmonsterstdin: but it's not :)11:22
frtmonsterand that is the problem11:22
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frtmonsterstdin: what does '|' do btw?11:23
Aiwuu!kdevelop11:23
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB11:23
KyralKDevelop is nice for large scale projects11:23
stdinfrtmonster: it's a pipe, it "pipes" the output of one command in to the input of another11:24
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frtmonsteri don't follow11:24
KyralAllow me to explain11:25
stdinfrtmonster: so the output of the command "lsof" is sent to the "grep" command11:25
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Kyraltake the two commands, cat and less11:25
frtmonsterstdin: i see11:25
frtmonsterKyral: cat and less? i lost you completely there :P11:25
Kyralcat on its own prints its arguments (be it STDIN, or files) combined to STDOUT (aka the screen)11:25
KyralSomeone just give him a link to Terminal For Beginners :P11:26
stdin!shell11:26
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:26
frtmonsterbtw ugh, how can i stop the touchpad in the laptop from working?11:26
KyralThat ain't it11:26
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lucahi everyone11:29
lucacan someone help me with strigi?11:29
makihi11:29
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makii'm newbie :)11:30
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lucaok, thanks anyway :)11:31
makino11:32
makiwhat problem you have11:32
makii maybe know the answer :)11:33
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stdinfrtmonster: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo ? I seem to be able to play midi files with timidity11:33
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frtmonsterstdin: i will look now11:34
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Krisheanwhen an application crashes with no error message how do i find out why it crashed?11:36
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lontraKrishean: open it via terminal and run it11:36
Krisheanah11:36
lontraluca: what is your strigi problem?  i use strigi11:37
lontraKrishean: it should provide some more verbosity...if not you can install a -debug package...i believe11:37
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iamsam9895hmm...11:39
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dromerI am using twinview t oa tv right now, but I can only open programs on the tv, not on my regular crt, how can I move programs between these screens?11:39
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dromerI mean I can open programs on both screens, but I can't move them between them11:40
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frtmonsterstdin: synaptics says i have timidity installed11:41
Krisheanit says something about gtk_widget_set_colormap11:41
frtmonsteri mean, it was probably installed through easyubuntu11:41
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frojndis there any similar program like saminisde and lc5 for linux ??11:43
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skittleswhats the new version coming out in April?11:46
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agraceyubuntustudio11:46
frtmonsterok timidy works stdin but not kmid11:46
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skittlesif i get the newer version when it comes out, will i lose everything i have done so far on ubuntu? <new user 4 2weeks>11:47
agraceyburn it all on to dvds11:49
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stdinfrtmonster: I think you need to set kmid up11:50
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frtmonsterstdin: i did lsof11:50
frtmonsterlsof: status error on /dev/sequencer/: No such file or directory11:50
frtmonsteri think the problem is differnet11:50
frtmonsterwhat do you think11:50
lontraskittles: no you can just upgrade11:50
AattilaHi! I cannot enable the wlan (Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN  Controller). What should i do?11:50
skittlestks Lontra11:50
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agraceydoes anybody know how to install onto a sata 3.0 drive; no distros work except opensuse but I much prefer kubuntu.11:51
frtmonsterstdin:  there's no sequencer at all11:51
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stdinfrtmonster: that's because it's not a directory, it's a file name, and I gor sound from kmid by doing from kmidi Settings -> MIDI Setup.. -> Timidity port 011:51
agraceyAattila: have you tried restarting11:51
frtmonsterok11:51
agraceyfor some reason it worked for me the second time I booted up11:52
frtmonsterstdin i did settings -> midi setup and it said "could not open midi/sequencer to get results11:52
frtmonster*/dev/sequencer to get info11:53
frtmonsterand "probably there is another program using it"11:53
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stdinfrtmonster: did you do the modprobe part here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo#head-e460036f4a70527b15a3a18791defdf5d52b9553 ?11:53
frtmonsterstdin: timidy works for me11:54
frtmonsterstdin: kmid doesn't11:54
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Aattilaagracey: yes, i tried many times to enable it, but it always turns on for a while, then inmediately disables11:55
stdinfrtmonster: it didn't as first here, until I set it to use "TiMidity TiMidity port 0 - ALSA device"11:55
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frtmonsterstdin: i used easy ubuntu to install MIDI support11:55
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frtmonstermaybe i'll do the modprobe thing you asked me to11:56
frtmonstersec11:56
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stdinI didn't, I just installed TiMidi, kmidi and pmidi, that's it11:56
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stdin(to the easy ubuntu part)^11:56
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frtmonsterstdin hmm, i did the modprobe commands and suddenly i can enter11:58
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frtmonsterbut i don't hear sound so i'll keep going11:58
frtmonsterbut how did you know modprobe would do? what does it do?11:58
lupareinsert kernel modules11:58
stdinfrtmonster: in linux, we call drivers modules, so you loaded some drivers11:58
stdinfrtmonster: try changing the settings in kmidi now, you may have to restart timidity11:59
frtmonsterok11:59
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pyrotixhow do I make a folder appear as if it is underneath another folder in the hierarchy when it really isn't?12:01
luparesymlink12:01
frtmonsterstdin: it works dude!12:01
frtmonstergreat12:01
stdinwoo :P12:01
frtmonsteryou know of any MIDI programs that will show me keyboard being played like kmidi?12:01
frtmonsterthanks12:02
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frtmonsterhaha i can finally delete windows12:02
pyrotixlupare: sounds familiar. That isn't right click create new link to location right? Because that didn't work.12:02
frtmonsteri feel so powerful12:02
stdinfrtmonster: nope, I only just tried midi, to see if I could get it working :P12:02
frtmonsteri have a midi application with a keyboard so i can learn piano :D12:02
frtmonsterok12:02
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KaiSVKhi all :)12:03
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frtmonsterstdin: :P you have any idea how to make a MIDI keyboard work on linux?12:03
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luparepyrotix: no it is not, I always manage to do so in console ;) ln -s source dest12:03
KaiSVKI am new around here ... considering to migrate from SuSE to Kubuntu ... main point is SuSE became bloated too much for me ... and I tasted debian flavour so ... are these right reasons to migrate to Kubuntu ? :)12:04
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stdinfrtmonster: never tried, but there is another couple steps if you don't want to have to load timidity and do the modporbe after12:04
agraceyfrtmonster:  do you use ack or alsa12:04
KaiSVKI mean ... is there something Kubuntu can give to semi-advanced user ?12:04
agraceyjack12:04
lupareeverything is better dan SuSE12:04
Gizmo48any get BOSON to work?12:04
KaiSVKlupare: why do you say that ? :)12:05
Gizmo48anyone12:05
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luparethose shitty rpm's12:05
pyrotixKaiSVK: apt > rpm12:05
agraceyeverything seems smoother than in kubuntu12:05
lupare.deb ftw!12:05
frtmonsteragracey: i don't know12:05
KaiSVKlupare: I have to agree ... after I tried debian ... I have seen it on my own ...12:05
agraceyok then you are using alsa12:05
frtmonsterstdin:  i will have to do it each time?12:06
pyrotixGuys how do I create sym-links?12:06
luparedebian based distro's are best, gentoo is better but too hard to get together a nice working package12:06
agraceyJack is an audio server that ties together all of your audio applications and I believe it has support for midi12:06
frtmonsterjack is on synaptics?12:06
agraceyyes12:06
frtmonsterok12:07
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KaiSVKlupare: only thing I am aware of that I will get out of rpm based SuSE/RedHat ... and I want to sell/support/propagate so called "eterprise linux solutions"12:07
KaiSVKlupare: its my job12:07
agraceysearch jack on google for a list of programs it works with12:07
stdinfrtmonster:  not if you do this, edit the file /etc/default/timidity (with the command "kdesu kate /etc/default/timidity") and remove the '#' from the start of the line with TIM_ALSASEQ=true on it, then edit /etc/modules (kdesu kate /etc/modules) and add snd-seq-device, snd-seq-midi, snd-seq-oss, snd-seq-midi-event, and snd-seq to it (each on a new line)12:07
luparehaha lol12:07
frtmonsterstdin: can't i use nano?12:07
stdinfrtmonster: yeah, if you want :P12:08
frtmonster:)12:08
lupareconsole ftw12:08
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KaiSVKlupare: another thing is ... ubuntu/kubuntu just worked for me and there was nothing to play with for me last time I tried it:)12:08
frtmonsterstdin: i know ## makes it a comment, what does # make it?12:08
stdinfrtmonster: I just always give a GUI way because some people are scared of the console12:08
agraceywhat does ftw mean, I am new around here12:08
pyrotixagracey: for the win12:09
frtmonsterstdin: oh i'm not using kubuntu anyway12:09
agraceyahh thanks12:09
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frtmonsterstdin: i'm using xubuntu12:09
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lupareftw = for the win12:09
pyrotixand guys how do I create symlinks?12:09
frtmonstermy celeron won't handle kubuntu :o12:09
stdinfrtmonster: # is a comment, ## is the same, any thing after a '#' is a comment12:09
luparehaha lol12:09
luparemine does12:09
frtmonsteri see12:09
lupareCeleron M though12:09
frtmonsterlupare:  are u using a laptop as well12:09
lupareyes ;)12:09
frtmonsteryea me too12:09
frtmonsterwhat laptop do you have12:09
stdinpyrotix: like "ln -s /place/to/link/to link"12:09
KaiSVKoki I am gonna sleep ... lupare thanx for chatty ;) GN12:10
lupareASUS A6-series12:10
luparenp12:10
luparebye12:10
KaiSVKlupare: tomorrow is a day of change ;)12:10
lupareok lolz12:10
agraceyshould get a gateway convertable12:10
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agraceythey are nice12:10
frtmonsterstdin: why desn't linux developers allow to do ctrl+c in the gui and then ctrl+v onto the console?12:10
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stdinfrtmonster: because ctrl-V may mean something in a console app, just middle click to paste12:11
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frtmonsterstdin: dude, i don't want to complain or anything but you are really making my life easy12:12
stdinfrtmonster: heh12:12
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frtmonsterstdin: back in the days when i installed slackware a long time ago, people used to rtfm and kick my ass out12:12
frtmonsteryou're handing me commands on a plate :)12:12
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