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[09:45] <nysosym> hi there :)
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[10:38] <lapo> hi
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[01:24] <kwwii> ok, all...here it goes: http://sinecera.de/kdm_idea[0-6] .png
[01:32] <elkbuntu> 404
[01:33] <elkbuntu> ooh.. i need to wake up
[01:34] <elkbuntu> kwwii, i vote 5 but slightly less dark at the bottom of the letters
[01:41] <kwwii> elkbuntu: yeah, that seems to be what most people like
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[01:43] <elkbuntu> ie: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/109114.html
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[01:45] <kwwii> lol
[01:45] <kwwii> I knew someone would say something like that
[01:46] <elkbuntu> kwwii, isnt it going to change before release anyway?
[01:47] <kwwii> elkbuntu: yes, probably
[01:48] <elkbuntu> good... because one thing that irks me slightly with the current wallpaper is that the gradients are visible right to the edge of the image, i suppose it's less illusionary than it could be
[01:48] <elkbuntu> but then, personal preference
[01:49] <kwwii> in any case, it will still get some work :-)
[01:49] <kwwii> but I am working on something else as well
[01:49] <elkbuntu> yeah.. that stupid kde stuff :
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[01:49] <kwwii> ;-)
[01:50] <elkbuntu> did anyone end up gnomifying your lilacy kde theme?
[01:52] <kwwii> nope
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[03:59] <lapo> kwwii: is the wallpaper going to change?
[04:00] <lapo> kwwii: I mean will it change much?
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[04:23] <kwwii> lapo: not sure exactly yet
[04:24] <kwwii> everyone: I just updated the session splash, might want to check it out and give your opinions
[04:25] <nysosym> kwwii: damn, yesterday i have installed kubuntu...
[04:26] <nysosym> can anyone made a scrennshot please?
[04:26] <kwwii> making a screenshot of the session splash is quite hard :-)
[04:26] <kwwii> nysosym: good, then you can check out the stuff I updated today for kubuntu :-)
[04:26] <nysosym> or can i have the source file? :D
[04:27] <nysosym> kwwii: sure, i will check it out :)
[04:28] <nysosym> whats new?
[04:28] <lapo> kwwii: I'm asking 'cause I'm using something similar in the tangerine icons, so I'd like it to not change a lot in colors
[04:28] <kwwii> lapo: basically, I was thinking of trying to make the light parts a bit less pink
[04:29] <lapo> kwwii: not a problem, I only have a slighty bright orage wallpaper in the monitor icons
[04:30] <lapo> kwwii: it's ok if it remains something bright as it is
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[04:31] <kwwii> lapo: cool, it won't be that radically different :-)
[04:32] <kwwii> in fact, every time I click on the gradient tool inkscape dies...it might not change much at all :p
[04:32] <lapo> eheh
[04:33] <nysosym> kwwii: what do u have changed in kubuntu?
[04:34] <kwwii> nysosym: the kdm, ksplash and wallpaper
[04:34] <kwwii> but only minor changes
[04:34] <kwwii> the logo is a bit more serious now
[04:34] <nysosym> wow, here is no update for that packages
[04:34] <kwwii> nysosym: yeah, it might take a bit
[04:35] <kwwii> nysosym: it will be in kubuntu-default-settings
[04:35] <nysosym> ok, i can wait :)
[04:37] <nysosym> damn i hate vmware player, is it impossible to install them completely and is it impossible to remove them... because they can't install the network bridge corectly... :-(
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[06:33] <troy_s> multi stop grads were broken in inkscape a week ago
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[06:53] <kwwii> best of all, the latest svn won't even build
[07:02] <troy_s> just build it from a prior revision
[07:02] <troy_s> until it gets sorted.
[07:03] <kwwii> yeah, probably right
[07:03] <kwwii> reconnecting, brb
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[07:40] <fschoep> troy_s: you still around?
[07:41] <troy_s> crap
[07:41] <troy_s> sorry frank... missed the blipping
[07:42] <fschoep> I've been here only for a minute so it's no problem
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[08:39] <lapo> my tangerine-icon-theme branch should be in buildable state
[08:39] <lapo> if someone feels like trying...
[08:39] <lapo> some icons are missing still but minor stuff mostly
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[08:45] <nysosym> re :)
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[08:49] <bersace> kwwii: hi
[08:49] <bersace> kwwii: is usplash 0.9 a joke ?
[08:49] <bersace> O_O
[08:50] <fschoep> hi bersace long time no see
[08:50] <bersace> fschoep: hi !!!
[08:50] <bersace> :)
[08:50] <fschoep> how's everything in France?
[08:50] <troy_s> bersace -- sorry my brother...
[08:50] <bersace> fschoep: presidention election are soon :)
[08:50] <kwwii> bersace: well, it doesn't have a nasty line around it :-)
[08:50] <troy_s> i was shooting up a mountain for a week... missed your page
[08:50] <bersace> kwwii: the colors are really bad
[08:50] <bersace> far from consistent
[08:50] <bersace> the line are not consistent with the background
[08:50] <kwwii> to be honest, sabdfl didn't like the last one at all
[08:51] <kwwii> bersace: I know, but it appears that we cannot get around that :-(
[08:51] <bersace> i really think you should provide a simplify version for the background with heavy statureted color
[08:51] <bersace> splash are like that imho
[08:51] <bersace> because they must detach from background
[08:51] <bersace> fschoep, troy_s did you saw HumanFeistyList ?
[08:52] <troy_s> bersace: No sorry.
[08:52] <bersace> fschoep, troy_s and ubuntulooks with colors scheme support
[08:52] <fschoep> I think so yes
[08:52] <bersace> aarg !
[08:52] <bersace> you must
[08:52] <bersace> ;)
[08:52] <bersace> http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/Images/Captures/Gnome/GDM/Themes/HumanFeistyList/
[08:52] <kwwii> bersace: I am working on the wallpaper as we speak
[08:53] <bersace> http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/GNOME/gdm/HumanFeistyList.tar.gz
[08:53] <kwwii> bersace: should I put that in the package or can you do that?
[08:53] <bersace> kwwii: i can'
[08:53] <bersace> t
[08:53] <bersace> i do not have the priviledges
[08:53] <bersace> s/d//
[08:53] <kwwii> bersace: okidoki, I'll do it
[08:53] <bersace> ;)
[08:53] <bersace> thx :)
[08:53] <bersace> And what about gtkrc ?
[08:54] <kwwii> bersace: you mean the fixed ubuntulooks rc?
[08:54] <bersace> Ubuntu must take advantage of that feature of gnome 2.18, especially because we use brown
[08:54] <bersace> yep
[08:54] <troy_s> how is brown related to 2.18?
[08:54] <kwwii> bersace: I will be updating that as well soon
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[08:54] <kwwii> bersace: I need to update my system first though, so I can test it :-)
[08:55] <bersace> troy_s: we use brown so that some people are willing to switch the brown to their blue
[08:55] <troy_s> bloody blue
[08:55] <troy_s> uggh
[08:55] <bersace> allowing people to that easily by picking a colour is very good for that
[08:55] <bersace> i agree i prefer the ubuntu brown
[08:55] <bersace> but our purpose is to provide a theme for ubuntu, not ubuntu-art ;)
[08:56] <troy_s> indeed
[08:58] <bersace> kwwii: i'll intend to maintain HumanFeistyList as you update Human theme
[08:59] <bersace> I'm kind of GDM ListEnableTheme maintainer ;)
[08:59] <kwwii> bersace: cool, if I update anything I'll send you an email as well
[08:59] <bersace> nice
[08:59] <bersace> kwwii: do you have a 4:3 screen ?
[08:59] <kwwii> I'll be going through everything this week, so get ready ;-)
[08:59] <bersace> lol :D
[08:59] <kwwii> bersace: yes, I do, why?
[09:00] <bersace> because for theme preview, the screenshot needs to be 4:3
[09:00] <bersace> and i have only 16:10
[09:00] <kwwii> I can make a screen for it then
[09:00] <bersace> nice
[09:01] <bersace> So the workflow is now : base artwork (kwwii) -> bersace (list) -> screenshot (kwwii) -> publish (kwwii) :)
[09:01] <kwwii> hehe, yeah :-)
[09:02] <bersace> So troy_s do you still agree with #ubuntu-artwork title ? ;)
[09:02] <troy_s> i could care less :)
[09:03] <fschoep> lol
[09:03] <kwwii> bersace: the current screen is http://sinecera.de/ubuntu_feistyList.png
[09:04] <bersace> kwwii: yeah !
[09:04] <bersace> really rocking :)
[09:04] <bersace> your artwork is really smooth
[09:04] <bersace> and the list fit well
[09:04] <kwwii> the list looks nice :-)
[09:05] <bersace> kwwii: thanks
[09:05] <bersace> kwwii: you can shrink the screenshot to 96 pixel wide
[09:05] <kwwii> I just need to get this darn sesssion splash down well, and I would be happy
[09:05] <bersace> in order to enlightweight the package
[09:05] <bersace> ack
[09:05] <kwwii> bersace: ok, next time I'll do that
[09:07] <bersace> nice
[09:10] <bersace> ok, good night every one and thank you all
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[09:34] <brads> how many designers here?
[09:35] <fschoep> probably two
[09:38] <brads> me 2
[09:39] <brads> keen to find out if they do their professional work using linux ?
[09:39] <troy_s> i think it ultimately depends on the knowledge and dedication
[09:41] <brads> still just keen to know if people freelance using just linux tools
[09:41] <fschoep> I did for a while
[09:41] <fschoep> but I'm no designer
[09:41] <troy_s> yes you can.
[09:42] <troy_s> i have done a boatload of previs type things for music videos etc solely using foss.
[09:43] <brads> i did one logo, just as a favour using just gimp and inkscape
[09:44] <brads> i think its possible, but would have to be in that shoes to say for sure
[09:45] <troy_s> it is easily workable assuming you have the knowledge and technique to back it up
[09:47] <brads> thanks guys will sleep on it
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[11:52] <lapo> yo
[11:53] <lapo> kwwii: ping
[11:53] <kwwii> lapo: pong
[11:55] <lapo> kwwii: I have a buidable version of tangerine-icon-theme, can you merge?
[11:56] <kwwii> lapo: sure, if you tell me which branch to do it to
[11:57] <kwwii> I assume bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/tangerine-icon-theme/ubuntu
[11:57] <lapo> nope, mine
[11:57] <lapo> ~calamandrei
[11:57] <kwwii> can't you update that?
[11:58] <kwwii> ahhhh, merge you're branch into the other
[11:58] <kwwii> now I get it
[11:58] <kwwii> sorry, was watching a film
[11:58] <lapo> I think I can, but I'm not a big bazaar expert so I wouldn't want to fsck things up :-)
[11:58] <kwwii> hrm, never done that before :-)
[11:59] <kwwii> if you wait until tomorrow, I'll ping dholbach and make him do it :p
[11:59] <lapo> ok, we're on the same boat then, let's wait for daniel to show up :-)
[11:59] <lapo> ok, cool, no problems, I'll write him a line
[12:00] <kwwii> sorry I couldn't help more
[12:00] <kwwii> I'll figure this out with time :-)
[12:00] <lapo> no problems