[12:32] <jrib> DM|: it's kind of at a standstill atm
[12:33] <DM|> =( darn, i was excited when seveas told me about it
[12:35] <jrib> DM|: what class would you be interested in?
[12:35] <DM|> umm anything
[12:36] <DM|> i've been using Ubuntu since october '05 so im not a beginner, but i would like to take part in learning all i can
[12:36] <jrib> DM|: Is there a topic you are interested in that isn't on the list of past classes?
[12:36] <DM|> let me look over it again
[12:37] <jrib> there are basically two issues, right now, there is no one really taking leadership of the classroom and we haven't really agreed on what to do for the future (new topics or repeat the old ones)
[12:37] <DM|> networking with ubuntu, wireless, etc. for 1
[12:38] <DM|> VNC/Terminal server client/external IP VNC/term client
[12:39] <DM|> samba
[12:39] <DM|> umm
[12:39] <DM|> Kernel compiling
[12:39] <DM|> Debian package- and how they work
[12:40] <DM|> and how to make them
[12:40] <DM|> gosh i have about a million things
[12:40] <jrib> the debian packaging classes during open week were very good
[12:41] <jrib> DM|: you might want to contribute to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Ideas
[12:48] <DM|> jrib i just edit the wiki page?
[12:49] <jrib> DM|: yep
[12:49] <DM|> ok.
[12:56] <DM|> jrib check it out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Ideas#preview
[12:56] <jrib> DM|: I won't be able to see that
[12:56] <DM|> oh
[12:56] <DM|> meh
[12:57] <jrib> DM|: but I do see your edits
[12:57] <jrib> so you must have submitted already
[12:57] <DM|> ?
[12:57] <DM|> so i have...
[12:57] <DM|> i thought it had to be approved
[12:57] <jrib> nope
[12:57] <DM|> wow isnt that kind of unsecure.
[12:57] <DM|> not a big wiki person :)
[12:58] <jrib> that's what makes a wiki so great, everyone can contribute
[12:59] <DM|> well are those good? those are things ive wanted to learn about for a while, specially battery saving mods
[01:00] <jrib> DM|: yep, those are good.  I might take up the compiling one.  For your battery issues, a post to the mailing list or forum might get you faster results, or does no one seem to know there either?
[01:01] <DM|> no one i ask
[01:01] <DM|> its more of a "Is there ANYTHING out there that can help us laptop users get more batt life"
[01:01] <DM|> cus frankly linux battery life sux
[01:01] <DM|> and dont get me wrong, i am a linux only user
[01:02] <jrib> I recall something about a "laptop-mode"?
[01:02] <DM|> done some mods with that, nothing really helps
[01:03] <DM|> i think its more to do with the hardware/kernel
[01:03] <DM|> i got 1 more hour out of windows when i ran it with this laptop
[01:03] <jrib> yeah that's kiind of bad
[01:04] <jrib> http://www.williambrownstreet.net/wordpress/?p=23 has some tips
[01:04] <DM|> i get 2:30 atm, but with a 9cell battery , i should be getting more
[01:04] <jrib> my laptop battery lasts about half and hour now, it's a bit old
[01:06] <DM|> hmm
[01:06] <DM|> maybe you can help me with this
[01:06] <DM|> echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[01:06] <DM|> bash: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor: Permission denied
[01:06] <DM|> sudo does not work either
[01:08] <jrib> DM|: how are you using sudo?
[01:08] <DM|> sudo echo
[01:08] <DM|> etc
[01:08] <DM|> should i be using sudo su
[01:08] <jrib> ah but the redirection is done by the shell which only has user privs
[01:08] <jrib> try:  echo powersave | sudo tee /whatever
[01:09] <DM|> ah
[01:09] <DM|> says caling_governor  powersave
[01:09] <DM|> no
[01:09] <DM|> just powersave
[01:09] <jrib> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor    to see what it is now
[01:12] <DM|> powersave :)
[01:12] <DM|> oh
[01:12] <DM|> anyway to shut of xpress card slot, and PCMCIA slot? i dont use them and they are sitting there doing nothing
[01:12] <DM|> or are they automatically shut down
[01:13] <jrib> no idea
[01:14] <DM|> most of ACPI-support is suspend and hibernation, neither of which work correctly, but i dont think anyone should use them anyway
[01:18] <DM|> what would really be a nice feature in ubuntu is to be able to down-volt CPUs