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| LaserJock | nixternal: around? | 01:20 |
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| nixternal | yup | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: did you see mdke's question to me about what items we want on the front page? | 01:23 |
| nixternal | I seen something about it, but I didn't notice the specific items | 01:23 |
| nixternal | are Ubuntu docs getting installed as well? | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | yes | 01:24 |
| nixternal | ok, it would be nice to kind of keep their layout, but add like the 3 links to the Edubuntu docs | 01:24 |
| nixternal | Handbook, Release Notes, and School Advocacy? | 01:24 |
| nixternal | that is my opinion on it | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | what about About Edubuntu? | 01:25 |
| nixternal | ooh, forgot that one, yes that too | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | School Advocacy is a little odd | 01:26 |
| nixternal | then remove that. I wasn't sure on its status | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | well, I just think the name is weird | 01:27 |
| nixternal | I think for Feisty+1, Edubuntu docs needs to go TBH, and either keep the handbook for PDF/HTML for say the Wiki or somewhere else, or get rid of it | 01:28 |
| nixternal | they need to hurry up and open up translation for Feisty | 01:29 |
| nixternal | we are coming down to a month left | 01:29 |
| nixternal | I can already see the doc bugs, "docs are translated for my language, or some sections are and some aren't" | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | it's not much use to translate stuff if you're just going to have to translate it again | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | ok, so do you know how About Edubuntu and Release Notes are doing? | 01:32 |
| nixternal | I never messed with them, so they are probably the same as they always have been | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | which means they need to be rewritten :-) | 01:34 |
| nixternal | don't know about rewritted but possibly updated | 01:34 |
| nixternal | can we do that with string freeze | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | well, I think it'd pretty large reworking | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | those docs are at least 2-3 releases old | 01:35 |
| nixternal | actually with About Edubuntu you are looking at possibly and hours worth of work | 01:36 |
| nixternal | and? | 01:36 |
| nixternal | of about an hours worth of work | 01:36 |
| nixternal | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/about-edubuntu/C/ | 01:36 |
| nixternal | brb | 01:37 |
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| nixternal | k, back | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | ok | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | so do you have any time to look at About Edubuntu and Edubuntu Release Notes? | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: ^^ | 01:50 |
| nixternal | yes | 02:03 |
| nixternal | I am working on Mailody docs for KDE, just getting it started really. I am going to go get some ice cream and then I will work on Edubuntu docs. sound good? | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | good | 02:04 |
| nixternal | good deal, I shall return then and get to work on it | 02:04 |
| nixternal | should I work in trunk or feisty branch with this? | 02:05 |
| nixternal | I think working out of the feisty branch will be fine | 02:05 |
| nixternal | LP isn't even open for translations yet | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | I think Edubuntu won't get much translation this go around | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | I think it's more important for use to get decent docs | 02:10 |
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| nixternal | hiya jjesse | 03:53 |
| jjesse | hiya rich | 03:53 |
| jjesse | i think i just sent the last changes/fixes to the book | 03:54 |
| jjesse | i hate hotel living :( | 03:54 |
| jjesse | nixternal: i noticed you didn't have to change the whole universe/multiverse thing | 03:56 |
| nixternal | jjesse: because when you told me about it, I went ahead and made all of the fixes then | 04:00 |
| jjesse | cool | 04:03 |
| jjesse | trying to figure out how i want to setup my laptop | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | decisions decisions ;-)\ | 04:06 |
| jjesse | yeah unfortnately for work i need windows | 04:07 |
| jjesse | so i need to calculate how i'm going to partition things | 04:07 |
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| boredandblogging | hi guys | 04:13 |
| boredandblogging | can anyone point me to a non-technical description of Linux and Ubuntu? I would like to put it on our LoCo page. | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | the ubuntu.com website doesn't have enough | 04:15 |
| boredandblogging | more along the lines of if someone doesn't quite know what linux is | 04:21 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: when pronouncing Edubuntu is it ed-oo-boon-too or edu-boon-too | 04:28 |
| nixternal | the proper way I guess | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I think the 1st one | 04:29 |
| nixternal | think? :) | 04:29 |
| nixternal | hey, they dropped support for PowerPC didn't they? | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | official support | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | they are still making .isos | 04:44 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I didn't see any for 7.04 | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | I think are there | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I don't see Herd 5 | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | maybe it didn't make Herd5 | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | but the will be spinning CDs | 04:47 |
| nixternal | ok, that is all I needed to know | 04:48 |
| nixternal | I am almost done with the about doc | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | I think you could just say that PPC is community supported | 04:48 |
| nixternal | none of the Edubuntu devs are paid are they? | 04:50 |
| nixternal | Canonical just employs Ubuntu devs, and 1 Kubuntu dev | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | no | 04:52 |
| LaserJock | Edubuntu technically has more than Kubuntu | 04:52 |
| LaserJock | ogra is Canonical | 04:52 |
| nixternal | K, well that is 1 :) | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | well, there's also RichEd and willdvl and rodrigo | 04:53 |
| nixternal | OK, true :) | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | but ogra is currently the only Edubuntu dev | 04:55 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal feisty * r3968 /edubuntu/about-edubuntu/C/about-edubuntu.xml: complete - review | 05:00 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: there is a new shell to work with, go through and see if you need more added/changed. I am thinking a little more "Education" info possibly | 05:01 |
| nixternal | hrmm, the release notes shouldn't really be packaged should they? I thought that was what the website was for? | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | I feel like they should be both, but maybe that's just me | 05:02 |
| nixternal | Ubuntu and Kubuntu aren't shipping release notes | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | well, then we can not if you want | 05:03 |
| nixternal | I swore the release notes were supposed to get absorbed into some Ubiquity slideshow | 05:03 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: it is up to you, the almighty Edubuntu and MOTU man | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | bah | 05:03 |
| nixternal | haha | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | we should ask ogra about ubiquity | 05:03 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: hahaha @ planet | 06:17 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i saw that in akregator | 06:18 |
| Admiral_Chicago | expected a graphic... | 06:18 |
| nixternal | :) | 07:19 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | :( | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | man, totally ignoring you | 07:24 |
| Admiral_Chicago | I should just call his phone, wake him up at 4 AM. | 07:24 |
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| LaserJock | do it! | 07:26 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: i really wasn't going to but LaserJock told me to... | 07:27 |
| Admiral_Chicago | its out of my hands now... | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | lol | 07:27 |
| Admiral_Chicago | 1...6... | 07:31 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nah i wont because I am asking him a favor | 07:31 |
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| nixternal | 1600 Pennsylvania Ave | 07:35 |
| Admiral_Chicago | lol | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | haha | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | you wish | 07:35 |
| nixternal | 1:30 already | 07:36 |
| nixternal | argh | 07:36 |
| crimsun | (nuts, man. That would be a horrendous address.) | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | you could do it! | 07:39 |
| crimsun | imagine the junk mail that goes _there_ | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | I want to see Ubuntu dev /President | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | no kidding | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing the bug reports can be a little more urgent as well ;-) | 07:40 |
| crimsun | err, I have lecture in <4 hours | 07:40 |
| crimsun | blah for not sleeping | 07:41 |
| Admiral_Chicago | \o? | 07:41 |
| Admiral_Chicago | err. | 07:41 |
| Admiral_Chicago | \o/ | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: what class? | 07:41 |
| crimsun | operating systems | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | do you like teaching it? | 07:42 |
| Admiral_Chicago | fun. they offered that at my school, didn't take it..yet | 07:43 |
| crimsun | yeah, quite fun even if the hour is ungodly | 07:43 |
| Admiral_Chicago | 8 AM? | 07:43 |
| crimsun | yeah | 07:43 |
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| LaserJock | I don't want to get another PhD though | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | one would be quite sufficient | 07:44 |
| crimsun | c'mon, everyone loves insanity | 07:44 |
| Admiral_Chicago | 8 AM, i forget that hour existed before this semster | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | the dept. sys admin ( a CS grad student) wants to teach a "CS for Chemists" class with me | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | but we'd need to get people interested | 07:45 |
| crimsun | pizza, semester/quarter stipends, and promises of removing FORTRAN should do it | 07:46 |
| Admiral_Chicago | FORTRAN rocks | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | almost everything we do is Fortran | 07:47 |
| crimsun | it does, but not for Ubuntu ;) | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | but we need info on shell scripting and stuff like using python to analyze data | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | the sys admin wrote a simple bash/perl script and saved a grad student like a weeks worth of work | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | just needed to randomly move some H atoms | 07:48 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | Fortran rocks is what i wanted to say | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | in it's own way | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | not so great for GUIs, IMO | 07:52 |
| nixternal | fortran? get out of here | 07:52 |
| nixternal | c++ rocks | 07:52 |
| nixternal | ocaml | 07:53 |
| nixternal | stuff like that | 07:53 |
| nixternal | Python (once I learn it better) | 07:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | definetly not, we have a GUI problem that I'm hacking on right now...that's my break | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | fortran is easy and fast | 07:53 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: the 1970's called and said they want their programming language back | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | but I prefer my Fortran as a python library | 07:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | our grid computer running FORTRAN will destrou you | 07:53 |
| nixternal | oh I forgot, you are a scientist | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | yes | 07:53 |
| Admiral_Chicago | LaserJock: what field? | 07:53 |
| nixternal | fortran was probably the first thing I started to learn in the early 80's | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | Physical Chemistry | 07:54 |
| nixternal | nuclear physisisisist at area 51 | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | lol | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | close | 07:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | P Chem, cool. | 07:54 |
| nixternal | BizMgt > all of um | 07:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i half expected "psychology" | 07:54 |
| nixternal | well LaserJock I am thinking of PhD, either CompSci (doubt it), Electrical Engineering (possible), Business (more than likely) | 07:55 |
| Admiral_Chicago | haha. that's not a science...(people get really mad when I say that) | 07:55 |
| Admiral_Chicago | do business nixternal! | 07:55 |
| nixternal | more than likely I will | 07:55 |
| Admiral_Chicago | then go around trying to get people to let them operate on you | 07:55 |
| nixternal | I already have 2.5 degrees in it | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | yuck | 07:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | I'm doctor nixternal. let's see that pancreas. | 07:56 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | business is for type A personalities with control issues ;-) | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | j/k | 07:56 |
| nixternal | that's me! | 07:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | lsl | 07:56 |
| nixternal | lsd | 07:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | err lol...dang qwerty keyboards... | 07:56 |
| nixternal | now it is qwerty's fault, last week it was dvoraks | 07:57 |
| nixternal | I seen a dvorak keyboard with my very own eyes finally, and I must say, absolutely retarded | 07:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | dude I didn't bring my keyboard home | 07:57 |
| nixternal | just get the happy hacker, caps become cntrol and so on | 07:57 |
| nixternal | dvorak almost wants to be an emacs or vi keyboard | 07:57 |
| nixternal | and people who use keyboards are stupid, microphone. I sit here and yell "LOL" all day long | 07:58 |
| Admiral_Chicago | dude, those text editoes hate dvorak | 07:58 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 07:58 |
| crimsun | yes, they certainly do | 07:58 |
| crimsun | I remember using dvorak for the first time with vim | 07:58 |
| crimsun | that was a nightmare | 07:58 |
| Admiral_Chicago | yea I just stay away from vim / emacs...thats the final frontier to all out geekdom | 07:59 |
| Admiral_Chicago | that and Star Trek | 07:59 |
| nixternal | I don't like star trek, and Kate > Emacs && Vim | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | gedit FTW! | 08:01 |
| nixternal | never | 08:02 |
| nixternal | I can validate, build, test, whatever w/o ever leaving Kate | 08:02 |
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| nixternal | figured as much | 08:02 |
| Admiral_Chicago | oh thats where my phone is.. | 08:04 |
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| mdke | morning | 09:11 |
| bhuvan | morning mdke | 09:29 |
| bhuvan | mdke: shall i remove incomplete sections in branches/feisty server guide? | 09:29 |
| mdke | bhuvan: yes please | 09:30 |
| bhuvan | ok mdke | 09:30 |
| bhuvan | mdke: i modified generic/serverguide (yet to commit); should i modify generic/server as well? | 09:51 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan feisty * r3969 /generic/serverguide/C/ (8 files): | 09:55 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Feisy fix for server guide: | 09:55 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * Remove unused sections | 09:55 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * Fix the status | 09:55 |
| mdke | bhuvan: we need to update generic/server with the latest strings from serverguide, basically just copying over all the relevant files. You can do that if you like! | 10:03 |
| mdke | i have to go to work, cya later | 10:03 |
| bhuvan | ok, i'll do it; thank you | 10:03 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan feisty * r3970 /generic/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Make the server guide document compatible for Feisty Fawn. | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * generic/serverguide/sample/sources.list | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * generic/serverguide/C/package-management.xml | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * generic/libs/generic.ent | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Change the reference from dapper to feisty | 10:12 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan feisty * r3971 /generic/server/ (13 files in 2 dirs): | 10:18 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Synchronize generic/server with generic/serverguide directory. Copy over | 10:18 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: the files from generic/serverguide to generic/server and remove | 10:18 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: unused/incomplete files. | 10:18 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Suggested by: mdke | 10:18 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull feisty * r3972 /ubuntu/add-applications/C/add-applications.xml: universe/multiverse now enabled by default, closes bug 91355 | 10:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 91355 in ubuntu-docs "Universe and Multiverse enabled by default" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91355 | 10:47 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull feisty * r3973 /ubuntu/musicvideophotos/C/musicvideophotos.xml: Fixes one small typo (string change, sorry) | 10:48 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull feisty * r3974 /ubuntu/ (10 files in 8 dirs): Update section statuses (no string changes) | 11:02 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3975 ubuntu/add-applications/C/add-applications.xml: Merge changes to add-applications from branches/feisty | 11:03 |
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| nixternal | Laser_away: have you had a chance to look over the About Edubuntu page yet? | 05:42 |
| Laser_away | nope | 05:42 |
| nixternal | roger. I was hoping it built already on doc.ubuntu.com but it hasn't | 05:43 |
| Laser_away | I just saw an edubuntu MIR approval | 05:43 |
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| nixternal | it would be nice to be able to initiate that cron job | 05:43 |
| nixternal | ooh, cool, is it edubuntu-docs? | 05:43 |
| Laser_away | edubuntu-docs MIR that is | 05:43 |
| nixternal | sweet! | 05:43 |
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| nixternal | woohoo, translations are open | 06:35 |
| nixternal | now, how do we upload for translation? :P | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | I think they should come from the *-docs packages | 06:43 |
| nixternal | yes, as long as the pot files are included | 06:45 |
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| mdke | nixternal: we need to do some manual things with the rosetta guys, I'm on it | 08:08 |
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| bodhi_zazen | hi all :0 | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | hi bodhi_zazen | 08:22 |
| bodhi_zazen | LaserJock thanks for your help the other night :) | 08:23 |
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| LaserJock | bodhi_zazen: no problem | 08:28 |
| bodhi_zazen | I was told this channel is not so active ... | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | it depends | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | "active" is sort of a relative term | 08:31 |
| bodhi_zazen | he he .. | 08:31 |
| bodhi_zazen | Well I am going to try to raise the level of awareness of the wiki on the fourms | 08:32 |
| bodhi_zazen | wanted to let you know, I am not wanting to re-create the wheel | 08:32 |
| bodhi_zazen | I want to add guidence for new users | 08:33 |
| bodhi_zazen | I would like to integrate rather then re-create of up root ;) | 08:33 |
| bodhi_zazen | *or | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | it seems to me that we've always had a bit of a weird/strained relationship with the forums | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure why exactly | 08:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | sorry to hear that... | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | except that forums people seem to not want to work outside the forum | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | and doc people seem to not want to work on the forums | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | as a gross generalization | 08:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | One of my gaols when I "applied" for leadership of the beginners team was to bring the wiki to the noobs so to speak :) | 08:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | I see my team as a potential bridge | 08:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | we are at #ubuntuforums-beginners | 08:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | and we are just starting | 08:48 |
| bdmurray | bug 67022 is against the installation-guide is that a docteam package? | 09:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67022 in installation-guide "example-preseed.txt is .gz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67022 | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | bdmurray: I don't think it is | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | usually cjwatson takes care of it, I *think* | 09:00 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: okay, cool. I just wanted to make sure. | 09:01 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #91749 in kubuntu-docs (main) "file confict with ubuntu-docs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91749 | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | uh oh | 09:25 |
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| nixternal | mdke: come back :) | 12:01 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: did you see my conversation with ogra WRT release note? | 12:11 |
| nixternal | not yet sweety, was it good? | 12:11 |
| nixternal | ;p | 12:11 |
| nixternal | dude, it is in the 60's here today, I got to finally take the bike out today and ride | 12:11 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: so we are putting them on the wiki, groovy | 12:12 |
| LaserJock | so we should take them out of the svn repo | 12:12 |
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