[12:24] whats the command to clean out my install & upgrade cache === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === MattJ [n=matthew@88-111-243-51.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === woute1 [n=wouter@cp106655-a.roose1.nb.home.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] hello [12:52] has ne1 used gdesklets? === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-12440.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [12:58] cycro, Take the time to spell complete words. ;) [12:58] lol [12:58] Has anybody used gdesklets before? [12:58] I didn't know people were so stringy about spelling here. [12:58] I mean, it's the Internet [12:59] I must be right back. [01:00] lol [01:00] btw [01:00] can i reset the panels to default? [01:01] cus i looked into the panel manager and did something i cant undo [01:01] If one shortens that much people like me wonder how serious a question really is if one doesn't care about words. Additionally it's easier to understand. [01:01] i have no panels atm or at least not any with any buttons on them :( [01:01] ice_world, you can remove them and add them again === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:02] Ok [01:02] How do I disable xubuntu from saving my session? [01:03] Every time I log in it loads up some random programs I had open at one point [01:05] cycro: if you close the random programs and save the session, next time the random programs will not start [01:05] oh [01:05] thanks, ill try tht === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] .. [01:08] better [01:09] But why does it continue to run gdesklets even though it is not in my start up programs list? [01:09] kalikiana and they will have all the buttons etc back? cus i dont have the slighest clue on how to get em back [01:09] and why does every desklet by gdesklets have a window around it? [01:09] or rather i window decoration [01:10] ice_world, If you remove and add the panels they'll be empty. You can however add anything again via right-click 'add' === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] cycro, 1) gdesklets might be in your xinitrc file 2) I didn't try gdesklets very much but there is wmctrl if you want to enforce removing the decoration. === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === cycro [n=robert@CPE0040f4d45ca8-CM00195ee63a94.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === erigby [n=erigby@cpe-065-190-197-056.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === doctordoog [n=Doog@cpe-065-188-149-173.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] someone help clarify for me, as I can't get on ubuntu right now, will apt-get not install X11 itself or just desktop environments? [01:31] doctordoog: Could you rephrase the question, I don't quite grasp what you mean. [01:31] somebody accidentally shut off my computer abruptly, and when I boot it it appears as if X11 doesn't load properly. I am hoping to simply uninstall it and then reinstall it [01:32] is X11 one of the packages apt-get tells you it can't install [01:32] No, you can install it. [01:32] xserver-xorg [01:32] But that is almost certainly not something you want to do. [01:32] what would you suggest I do? [01:33] is there any way I can try to reinstall parts of xubuntu without a clean install [01:33] Well, explain the problem, for starters. [01:35] basically, I was copying data from one hard drive to another and the computer got touched and shut off, and now when I boot xubuntu, it loads and when it gets to the point that it normally loads the desktop manager (gdm, xdm, whichever it is), instead it doesn't seem to recognize my graphics driver. my monitor displays a built in "check pc settings" sign that I usually get when I first install X11 and haven't configured it for my gr [01:35] Type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a Terminal to reconfigure X. Or turn off the splash if you are unable to see any error messages. [01:36] alright, I'll try that [01:37] could you remind me the way to change the default runlevel in GRUB so that I don't boot into X [01:37] doctordoog: When you do, use Ctrl-Alt-F{1-6}... [01:38] ah, that selects the runlevel it boots into? [01:40] doctordoog: No, sorry. When you boot into X, that'll get you a console. [01:40] aha [01:41] an X console or close out of X [01:42] doctordoog: It'll just switch to a console, as if you'd closed X. X will, however, still be running. [01:43] alright, that should be good enough for me. [01:43] thanks. I'll go try it. === fizzle [n=fizzle@nc-71-48-6-11.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:55] hey i just installed xubuntu, and my wireless connection wont work.... im not sure wjat to do [01:57] fizzle: What wireless card do you have? [01:57] belkin wireless g adapter [01:57] 802.11 54g [01:58] fizzle: You'll need to install drivers. There are a number of ways of doing this, none of which I know (as I'm lucky enough to have a card with (mostly) Free drivers). ndiswrapper is one of the best known/most used ways, so you may want to get friendly with Google regarding that. [01:59] Odd_Bloke, it detects my card im linux as wlan0 it just wont do anything [02:00] fizzle: Yeah, you'll need drivers. [02:00] k [02:06] how do i get an ftp and ssh running? === fizzlex [n=fizzle@nc-71-48-6-11.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:08] what is the admin password? [02:09] fizzlex: You should be using sudo, rather than switching to the root user. [02:09] ice_world: On your machine? [02:09] it says i need a password for sudo [02:09] yes [02:09] fizzlex: That's your own password. [02:10] ice_world: You'll need to install an FTP server and the SSH server. [02:10] ic [02:10] ssh isnt in from the start? :O [02:10] k [02:10] guess im spoiled [02:10] ice_world: It could be, I can't remember. === sunnz2 [n=zac@ppp115-5.static.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:11] ice_world: For SSH, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-openssh-server-installation-and-configuration/ [02:11] !ssh [02:11] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ [02:12] !ftp [02:12] FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd [02:12] !FTPd [02:12] FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP [02:12] ice_world: ^ [02:14] thanks === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=j@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:22] Anyone know when Xubuntu with XFCE 4.4/Feisty will be done? [02:24] spasticteapot, XFCE 4.4.0 is already done ;) [02:24] welcome to the future [02:25] Does any of you use a version > 4.4.0 already? [02:26] Really? [02:26] I installed Xubuntu and I had a nastily buggy XFCE4.3. [02:26] Huh? [02:27] spasticteapot, 4.4.0 is in Feisty, Edgy still has the Beta. You might update via the graphical installer from xfce.org (which is working safely for most users) === kalikiana wants a) to get rid of Thunar's menu and b) a more (visually) customizable panel === jdrake [n=jdrake@fyodor.hcoop.net] has left #xubuntu [] === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-165-44-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@72.55.208.5] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] aptitude went all screwy and wants to autoremove over a hundred packages. === kalikiana waves at cellofellow [02:41] hi [02:41] so what did you remove? xubuntu-desktop? gnome? [02:42] it's like all of a sudden the packages that auto-installed these ones just disappeared. I didn't remove anything, except a repo DVD from my sources.list. [02:42] I was lending it. [02:47] Hm. I heard that from somebody else before, but I have no idea what to do about it. === kalikiana is currently reading about polyphasic sleep. [02:57] gtg === spasticteapot [n=j@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] kalikiana: When's Feisty due? [03:03] !feisty [03:03] The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) === DawnLight [i=Dawn@85.64.208.231.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:09] hey there [03:10] an evil javascript at a nasty website loaded something up and AVG says the MBR changed... [03:10] spasticteapot: I'm running the Feisty alpha version on both my desktop and laptop and have yet to experience any problems. === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.245.120.169.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] DawnLight: What OS/distro are you using? [03:11] winxp [03:12] *lol [03:12] Windows Vista even has gksudo now :) [03:12] DawnLight: The best we can do in this channel is point out that this wouldn't have happened using GNU/Linux and encourage you to install this instead of Windows. === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@F73eb.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] oh i am in the process of doing that [03:13] you don't happen to know how i can fix the mbr? [03:14] DawnLight: Do you have GNU/Linux installed on your computer as well as Windows? [03:14] no [03:14] Hello! [03:14] Odd_Bloke: Hmm...perhaps I'll try it. [03:14] I remember Xubuntu having a buggy desktop, support for very few packages, and having no functional network manager. [03:14] At least Mepis works. [03:14] spasticteapot: Of course, I have to tell you that YMMV. :p [03:15] DawnLight: Be warned: Linux will NOT work out of the box, but at least hte problems are fixable. [03:15] DawnLight: Then I'd find a Windows support channel. [03:15] spasticteapot: That's complete FUD. === DawnLight [i=Dawn@85.64.208.231.dynamic.barak-online.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:15] FUD? [03:16] !FUD [03:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about fud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:16] spasticteapot, What version was it that was so buggy? [03:16] Bah. [03:16] Xubuntu Edgy. [03:16] XFCE 4.3 [03:16] Which one of these is it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUD [03:17] spasticteapot: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. GNU/Linux works fine out of the box. There are some applications and libraries that need to be installed in order to get things like MP3 etc. working, but those are entirely due to the law, not due to Linux 'not working'. [03:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt [03:17] And wasn't an entirely accurate description. [03:18] s/FUD/lies/ [03:18] spasticteapot, That'S interesting. I have been using Xubuntu since Dapper and what you are talking doesn't fit the description of what I had back then. :/ [03:18] Odd_Bloke: If I can't freaking drag things on and off the desktop, it does NOT work. [03:18] spasticteapot: You're doing it wrong. === kalikiana does not even have desktop icons (in the sense of files) [03:19] Desktop icons didn't exists until 4.4. [03:20] If FF didn't automatically download to the Desktop on install, I'd never use the desktop anyways. [03:20] They appeared in some 4.4 Beta, but I don't need them nontheless. [03:21] Downloads are actually the only reason to use a Desktop folder for me. [03:21] spasticteapot: What do you need the desktop for anyhow? [03:23] The Desktop is an extremely convenient place for in-use or frequently-used files. [03:24] PuMpErNiCkLe: There must be some way of shoving files in a menu on the panels. === Odd_Bloke would find out, but is using a GNOME machine ATM. [03:25] If that's what you want, go for it. [03:26] PuMpErNiCkLe: I'm just suggesting that as an alternative to using the Desktop. [03:26] With the added advantage of not needing to show the desktop to see said files. [03:27] Or you could have a 'desktop folder' and launch Thunar pointing at it using a button on the panel... [03:27] Or, you could upgrade to 4.4. ;) [03:28] Or use a keyboard shortcut to launch the file browser. Whatever you want, man. [03:28] PuMpErNiCkLe: Indeed. Just trying to suggest a few things to spasticteapot. === OGDA is now known as BFTD === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [04:04] hrm [04:04] is fluxbox available on xubuntu? [04:06] s|k: Almost certainly. Why do you ask? [04:07] just wondering [04:07] s|k: Check on packages.ubuntu.org, that's probably best. [04:08] Odd_Bloke: thanks :) === chris13 [n=chris@crmp-204.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu [04:45] ok I have a question that should be somewhat simple to answer [04:46] What do I do if I want to copy a file to a folder and it tells me permission denied? === mulljuli [n=mulljuli@CPE000d60cde4f6-CM0011ae91a534.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:01] chris13, You can do 'gksudo Thunar', type your user password and drag the file in that window as Thunar will have super user (root) rights for it. But be careful about that. === xubuser [n=chatzill@host148.201-253-188.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [05:02] Well I know for sure that I want to move the file [05:02] so I will do that [05:03] I'm just trying to get Firefox to be able to use local images [05:03] I made the .js file already [05:04] just need to put it in the right place [05:07] "Linux users: I assume that you know how to create a file if you're running Linux. Just create user.js in your profile folder." [05:08] So which folder exactly is my profile folder just to make sure I'm putting it in the right place? [05:10] It's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ [05:12] ok [05:13] It's the directory with the name that looks like a snippet of /dev/random. [05:14] what is the beggining of the path? [05:14] I'm pretty new to Linux in general [05:15] ~/ is your home directory. [05:15] oh [05:15] guess the ~ confused me [05:15] .mozilla is a hidden directory (in your home dir). [05:16] ~ is a shortcut that expands to your home absolute path [05:16] and where do I go to make the hidden ones visible? [05:17] found it [05:17] chris13: "ls -a" will list all hidden files in the current directory [05:17] I'm using Thunar [05:18] so it was just a preference [05:18] ups, sorry [05:18] w265gyjz.default? [05:18] That's the one. [05:18] is that where I put it in [05:18] I'm in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ [05:19] In w265gyjz.default. [05:19] ok [05:19] looks like it anyways [05:19] some other .js files in there [05:19] now we will see if it makes my local image pack work === malnilion [n=malnilio@adsl-70-233-254-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:21] the only other minor issue I was having is orage showed the popup for my appointment but never actually played the sound it was supposed to play [05:22] Does sound work otherwise? === xubuser [n=chatzill@host148.201-253-188.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [05:25] yes sound works [05:25] I can play all the popular sound formats too [05:26] I got mp3s working [05:27] does xarchiver not preserve folder structure? [05:28] seems to just take all the files and ignore all folders in the archive === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:37] I can't find any bugs for sound in orage, and I don't use it personally, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. [05:37] ok I got orage working [05:37] the application for playing the sound was set incorrectly [05:37] The Xarchiver thing is annoying though [05:38] which archiving program do you use? [05:39] chris13: tar on the command line. :p [05:39] Or zip etc. [05:39] and that preserves the folder structure in the archive? [05:40] I'd just not like to have to rebuild the directory tree structure in the archive manually === chris13 [n=chris@crmp-204.res.umass.edu] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has left #xubuntu [] === Eagle_101 [n=eagle@unaffiliated/eagle101/x-0000001] has joined #xubuntu === xubuser [n=jadrian@host148.201-253-188.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu === meborc [n=meborc@enedhcp35.ene.ttu.ee] has joined #xubuntu [07:09] does anybody knows why firefox is so memory consuming? [07:09] it's one of the dilemmas of the world === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-121-229.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:09] xubuser: lol, um becuase it keeps a huge cache [07:10] there are ways to tell it to quit cache'ing [07:11] yes, i've been doing that, but still, it takes more than 40 MB with just one tab opened [07:13] i'm thinking to give opera a chance [07:14] i use opera right now [07:14] oly because the new version of it starts up twice as fast as ff [07:14] only* [07:15] huhu [07:16] opera 9.10 that is [07:16] what about swiftfox? [07:17] i'm using opera now, it takes about 17 MB, more than a half of memory used by firefox [07:17] what is swiftfox? [07:17] i have not tried swiftfox, as i have a transmeta cpu :) [07:18] sorry, i mean less than a half [07:19] http://getswiftfox.com/releases.htm - swiftfox optimizes the use of browser according to your cpu [07:20] i see [07:21] but, it don't resolve the memory leak [07:21] no, but swiftfox is also lighter... you might try it... [07:22] i will give it a try [07:22] it is also installable via automatix2 (it was a few months ago anywayz) [07:23] i'm getting the deb package rigth now, thanks [07:24] meborc: I would not install things through automatix [07:24] :) i don't do it miself... as i use feisty... [07:25] so do I :) [07:25] got Konversation? [07:25] no... [07:25] I still need confirmation of a bug :) [07:25] well, someone else must have it also :) [07:26] i try not to run kde apps under xfce [07:26] why not? [07:26] as i have a really crappy lappy [07:26] :) [07:26] meborc: ah :) [07:27] and kde apps usually load a lot of kde lib's... which take a lot of memory... (a lot of memory for me atleast) [07:27] I use Xfce because I like it best as Desktop Environment and not because of my specs :) [07:27] oh... good for you [07:27] :) [07:27] xfce rocks [07:27] merboc: what are you specs? [07:27] I run quite a bit of kde appz :) [07:28] i have a old desknote laptop with 256 ram, transmeta 1ghz cpu (equal to 600mhz intel i guess), SIS integrated video [07:29] i see [07:29] meborc: it's not too bad ..... seen xubuntu running on "worse" machines :) [07:29] meborc: I think with the 256mb ram it runs quite ok? [07:29] yeah... it runs nice... but i try not to hog the system :) [07:30] the memory usage is not the worst... my cpu hits 100% even with 2 small tasks... transmeta really doesn't rock at all :( [07:30] :) [07:30] hyper_ch: I can do a quick test under virtualbox if that helps? [07:31] grazie: I can do that myself but didn't have time yet :) [07:31] virtualbox and vmware :) === hyper_ch was playing civ 3 the last two day *smile* so no time for checking that out [07:33] hyper_ch: did you have problems with the guest additions on VirtualBox? === meborc was playing icewind dale 1... no time to eat... or work... [07:33] grazie: what do you mean by guest additions? [07:35] hyper_ch: additional sw that makes it easier to integrate with the host os. Vmware has something very similar [07:36] haven't tried them yet [07:36] hyper_ch: you can install it from the Devices menu...but the mouse goes awol when I tried it on one OS. [07:37] haven't tried it yet [07:37] grazie: did you tell the dev in #virtualbox? [07:37] no yet [07:37] not* [07:39] :) [07:41] I was going to quickly install Konversation, but its got 15 dependencies :( [07:42] i had 10 dependencies in feisty today :) [07:42] installed it... but didn't like it [07:42] xchat is more familiar for me [07:43] what is konversation? a irc client for kde? [07:43] y [07:44] i'm using irrsi, is nice if you are in one or two channels only [07:44] xubuser: I'm using irssi in 36 channels and it's great. [07:47] I see there's a direct link to launchpad in the Fiesty menu now [07:47] Odd_Bloke: Oh, i haven't read the full documentation yet, that's a good new [07:48] irssi is the only way for me at university to make use of irc in a decent way [07:49] I was using gaim, but get tired of his autoconnect "feature" [07:50] hyper_ch: Same here, to an extent. [07:50] The Computing Society have servers, so I use irssi+screen. [07:50] Odd_Bloke: university blocked irc ports so I use ssh to run irssi from home [07:50] hyper_ch: :( [07:50] what is the diff between irrsi vs irssi? [07:50] Odd_Bloke: my roommates normally have p2p running so vnc is not really an option [07:51] hyper_ch: I have yet to find a graphical IRC client as good as irssi... [07:52] konversation :) [07:52] meborc: Screen is an app that allows you to detach a console from your screen, reattaching it at some later point. [07:52] hyper_ch: I don't like it that much, plus kdelibs... [07:52] so,I'm off to university [07:52] yeah, but irssi and irrsi?... same thing? [07:52] I like it much [07:52] or one is with a screen thing? [07:53] meborc: just a typing error I assume [07:53] no [07:53] maybe :) [07:56] meborc: irssi+screen is just irssi running inside a screen. [07:57] ok... i'm new to irssi... so i'm going to read the howto-startup thing :) ... [07:57] nice to learn new things [08:03] finally, I've decided to stay with firefox [08:04] with pluggins, opera consume just 4 or 5 MB less [08:04] it's not worthed, firefox is free software [08:05] :-) [08:10] xubuser: Well, that's an arguable point... [08:12] you're right [08:12] I have to say, firefox gaves you more freedom than opera [08:12] *gives [08:13] Mostly, yeah. [08:13] Though Iceweasel is freer... [08:13] I'll try it === null_ [n=null@cpe-24-208-189-7.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === meborc [n=meborc@enedhcp35.ene.ttu.ee] has joined #xubuntu === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu === looping_ [n=cybertoo@ARennes-352-1-132-201.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === unimatrix9 [n=theGrid@a62-251-25-103.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu [09:27] hello there [09:27] unimatrix9: Hi. [09:27] how low end can the pc be for xubuntu? [09:27] ram / cpu? [09:30] I don't really know, I'm afraid. [09:30] unimatrix9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu they say ram is enough [09:30] 64 of ram [09:31] and about 500MHz proc [09:31] ok thank you very much... [09:31] we will give it an try... [09:31] :) [09:32] you should. :) [09:33] I'm very happy with my xubuntu. I just don't understand why my camera and OGG player can't be hotplugged [09:34] and I'm off [09:37] a question, there is a tracker application that tracks running proccesses, shows you a graph of ram and cpu usage, ect, what is this thing called? [09:42] cpu or ram usage monitor [09:43] mmm no thats not it, that is a panel plugin [09:43] oh, graph... sorry [09:43] there is some application or something that lets you view running processes, and right click and kill them on command [09:43] :S [09:44] it was in the Xfce menu under system accessories or settings [09:47] well I'm confused now :S [09:47] lol [09:47] I will be back and see if I happened to install it... === meborc [n=meborc@enedhcp35.ene.ttu.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 [n=eagle@unaffiliated/eagle101/x-0000001] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === wouter [n=wouter@cp106655-a.roose1.nb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === pzler [n=wouter@cp106655-a.roose1.nb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu [10:46] hey could someone please help me to find a tutorial on how to install software on a computer without internet access? === esc_on_anakin [n=esc@p57BB668B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === qsrv [n=qsrv@lan-84-240-54-86.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #xubuntu [10:51] hi [10:52] I'm thinking of moving to xubuntu from ubuntu. My question is - what do you use for wireless roaming (managing the various profiles, etc.). Are there any tools like gnome's network-manager? [10:52] pzler: mmm I don't have a clue as to that one [10:52] qsrv: the software is the same [10:52] you can use gnome's network manager in xubuntu if you wish [10:53] the primary differnce between the two is the Desktop enviroment that they use (GNOME verus Xfce) [10:53] !wireless [10:53] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [10:54] as you see, we use ubuntu's docs ;) [10:55] ah, thanks [10:55] well atleast that means it's not a stupid question ;) [10:56] pzler: You'll want to get a hold of the appropriate .deb packages and transfer them across. [10:57] You'll have to do all the dependency management yourself if you do it that way, so it may well not be ideal... [10:57] yeah but it is the only way [10:58] can i acces the depositories as a ftp site? === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-219.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 is now known as EagleZzZ === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=User@c-69-251-104-89.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:18] xubby rulez! [11:18] =D [11:20] good [11:20] pzler: I don't know === tim__ [n=tim@host86-133-157-171.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:31] i think i will just drag my computer to a place with internet acces === pzler [n=wouter@cp106655-a.roose1.nb.home.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === Vincent_k [n=vincent@c83-251-31-41.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu === ice_world [n=0verm1nd@81-233-131-55-no92.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:54] could anyone tell me how i turn off the screen saver? === meborc [n=kaspar@enedhcp35.ene.ttu.ee] has joined #xubuntu [12:04] ice_world: settings -> setting manager -> scrensaver === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-220.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:06] ahh [12:06] thx TheSheep === MattJ [n=matthew@88-111-146-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === sunnz2 [n=zac@ppp115-5.static.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === tesuki [n=tesuki@c-db87e455.20-0145-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === esc_on_anakin [n=esc@p57BB796D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-87-2-82.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [12:26] anyone know if it possible to show date/month/yea instead of month/date/year in orage clock? [12:26] i dont fancy beeing in decemeber again :( [12:28] ice_world: it uses the format from your locale [12:29] ice_world: you can use orage clock instead -- it will allow you to specify the exact format you want [12:29] thats what im using [12:29] i can only find one command for dates tho [12:30] %d/%m/%Y [12:30] see man strftime for details [12:30] thanks === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-87-2-82.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [12:31] locale is that same as location or language i have choosen? [12:31] yes [12:32] No manual entry for strftime [12:32] ? [12:32] vidd: apt-get install manpages-dev [12:32] vidd: or use one of the many online man pages services [12:33] http://www.hmug.org/man/3/strftime.php [12:34] wtf [12:34] i made a quick launch bar [12:34] with some of the default buttons and then i pressed one of em and now the panel is gone :O [12:35] alt+f2, xfce4-panel, enter [12:35] the quicklaunch bar is pretty buggy [12:35] it crashed your panel [12:35] ice_world, was the button a "close" button? [12:35] lol [12:35] hehe no :p [12:36] I so wish windows had a command line [12:36] command line? [12:37] http://www.guidebookgallery.org/articles/facetofacewithopenlook <-- an article from 1988, and they are already bitching that Unix (no linux back then) is not good for desktops because developers don't care about GUI [12:37] doing tech support over the phone would be SO much easier [12:37] vidd: no it woudn't [12:37] vidd: you want to spell the urls? [12:38] vidd: besides, windows does have a command line [12:38] its better then trying to get these "wonderful customers" thru the maze of icons to get to "internet options" [12:38] vidd: ipconfig [12:38] it has a command promt [12:38] vidd: you can do anything you can do with icons with it [12:39] when i make a shortcut for the quicklaunch i choose an icon and then type a command for whats it suposto do? [12:39] vidd: of course you'd first need to know how [12:39] ice_world: why don't you use the normal launchers? [12:39] ice_world: they are much better developed [12:39]