=== Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [i=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luc_ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:58] hey manchicken__ === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:04] Riddell: are you still awake? :) [01:04] Jucato: hi [01:05] evening [01:05] hola [01:05] hola nixternal [01:06] hi Riddell! just woke up. I'm getting some updates. but the updates want to remove kubuntu-desktop and some other packages [01:06] err, why? [01:07] hm... going to pastebin what happens when I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade [01:07] Riddell: ping [01:08] Riddell: actually, only kdm, kdesktop, and konqueror appear to be having problems [01:09] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10110/ [01:11] manchicken__: hi [01:11] I am installing the latest upgrades right now. Didn't want to remove anything, just hold back the 2 digikam updates [01:12] gah! damn all the adept bugs under ept! [01:12] nixternal: I'm trying to dist-upgrade from edgy by using the dist-upgrade tool [01:12] which I still can't get to work.. [01:13] Jucato: I see the problem [01:13] ooh.. hope I didn't do anything stupid to my system to cause the problem :) [01:13] Jucato: no, my fault entirely [01:14] oh it's cool :) === Jucato just waits [01:15] Riddell: I'm kinda bored. [01:15] Riddell: Got anything for me to do? [01:16] manchicken: fix the arrow in adept? [01:17] heh [01:17] Good point. [01:17] manchicken: all the not all that important bugs filed for adept have been looked through [01:17] I know. [01:17] yuriy: love to join you in the bug week.. but.. :( [01:17] someone else fixed my changelog segfault thingy. [01:18] manchicken: they did? [01:18] manchicken: is that fix in? [01:18] It certainly seems that way. [01:18] Lots of 404s, but I think that may be a release issue. [01:19] e.g. no changelog uploaded for that particular release candidate. === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [01:19] er, upgrade candidate [01:19] er is bug 74262 fixed in feisty btw? (or should it even be fixed?) [01:19] Malone bug 74262 in adept "Two "Manage Repositories" entries under different menus in Adept Manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74262 [01:19] manchicken: there are a few minor ones that should be trivial to fix, assuming they wouldn't be considered new features. want me to assign them to you or are you going to be looking through yourself? [01:19] Jucato: I've never seen that [01:20] Riddell: one is under the Adept menu,the other is under View menu... [01:20] Riddell: but it's true. that combined with the one about how everything else in view is disabled, i was thinking why not just get rid of the view menu? === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] yuriy: how are we looking bug wise right now? What needs to be looked at? [01:20] I filed upstream too. mornfall hasn't replied to the bug yet... [01:21] yuriy: Can you give me 3 and I'll see what I can do? [01:21] yuriy: I'm still unpacking, so my hack time is sparse :) [01:21] manchicken: sure. no hurry, i think [01:22] Jucato: goodness, so it is [01:22] :) [01:22] wo0t, my KTorrent patches got accepted for Breezy -> Feisty :) [01:22] nixternal: working on adept today. gone through all the ones under adept except for some crashes and a few others that basically add up to "adept sucks at dealing with broken packages" [01:23] just realized there's a lot more that are filed under ept... [01:23] you have a tinyurl at all for the ones we are looking at, or should I just go under and look at *all* Adept bugs? [01:23] congrats [01:24] Jucato: new 3.5.6 packages up [01:24] Riddell: great! thanks [01:24] is ept the same as adept? [01:24] feisty only, or all of them? [01:24] what is ept? [01:24] jjesse: yes, it's an older name [01:24] nixternal: there are only 139 ;) [01:24] there was never a stable release under the name "ept" [01:24] well, the source package was ept for one release I think [01:24] nixternal: yay for ktorrent [01:25] yay 28 packages to be upgraded. thanks Riddell. [01:25] 139, I see 52 for Adept [01:25] ditto. 52 only [01:25] nixternal: yeah that's what i thought until a few minutes ago [01:26] oh interseting === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] boo [01:26] nixternal: patches to the current versions? [01:26] ok not 139. that's by search. 80 then. 27 in ept [01:28] Riddell: yes === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:29] nixternal: many thanks for that then [01:29] yuriy: I think bug 47988 could be rejected? not really sure but I thought that the green LED icon at startup was an intended behavior to show that adept is trying to check for updates [01:29] Malone bug 47988 in ept "Adept Notifier tray icon appears and dissapears on login" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47988 [01:30] Riddell: no problem. Was a fun project for me to get into some more coding :) [01:30] Jucato: it seems like a valid issue, if not a very important one [01:30] ah so it's not really intended to show up? hehe all this while I thought it was :) [01:30] isn't it supposed to show up and then disappear? === chavo [n=chavo@24-50-28-33.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] iirc, that's the same behavior on Ubuntu [01:31] but I haven't seen Ubuntu since Dapper. so... [01:31] Jucato: i don't think i've actually seen it show up, at least not recently [01:31] also, the thing about icons getting their own windows is a beryl problem [01:32] I think it shows up only if you're connected to the internet when it's checking for updates. [01:33] (ooh wow kuickshow's making a comeback? :D) [01:33] I don't see much point in it showing up to say you don't need to do any updates [01:33] dunno, we have bigger issues at any rate :) [01:34] Damnit, my chroot isn't connecting to the network. [01:34] hehe :) [01:35] hmmm i can't get my partition resized through ubqiuity [01:35] hm.. some of the bugs under ept seem to be reasonable.. too bad it's too late for most of them :) [01:35] to install kubuntu and dual boot :( [01:36] DEATH TO CHROOT! [01:36] Why won't it connect? === manchicken curses... === Jucato ncurses :) [01:39] quick question is there any problems resizing an SATA drive w/ ubiquity? [01:41] jjesse: no, it depends on the partitions already there and if partman recons it can resize them or not [01:41] trying to resize an ntfs drive [01:41] i've dual booted windows xp/kubuntu before [01:41] and just having struggles resizng [01:42] jjesse: try using gparted [01:43] gparted? [01:43] jjesse: aaah a g :) [01:43] a partioning tool [01:45] yuriy: I am going through and closing bugs that have already been fixed w/o any reporting to the bug [01:45] OK, everytime I close one, somebody opens one, quit messing with me :) [01:46] hmmm opening /dev/sda2 as ntfs failed: operation supported [01:46] operation not supported [01:48] nixternal: there's no Adept Handbook right? or is there one in Feisty now? [01:48] Jucato: there is no adept handbook [01:48] i'm almost done documenting it for kde [01:49] ah so bug 50890 can be closed/rejected? [01:49] Malone bug 50890 in ept "Help doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50890 [01:49] and then there were a ton of changes for fiesty [01:49] Jucato: jjesse is the man on that [01:49] there is a bug upstream [01:49] nixternal: ah ok. hi jjesse :D [01:49] hiya Jucato [01:50] at least there was at one time [01:50] if manchicken missed that comment: [12:29] manchicken__ should put his blog posts together and fix bug 62611 :) [01:50] Malone bug 62611 in adept "no help available when pressing F1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62611 [01:50] Jucato: how's the upgrade? [01:50] Riddell: heh 12 more packages to download before I could test again... sorry 512kbps only :P [01:50] Jucato: you could always assing it to me [01:51] jjesse: if I see adept doc bugs I'll assign them to you? [01:51] sure [01:52] yuriy: I'll mark the ept one as a duplicate of that adept bug, then assign it to jjesse. (there's a bug filed upstream by carsten too) [01:52] maybe it will help me get it done faster [01:58] poor users filing bugs for mornfall [01:59] hm? :D [02:01] Jucato: he's rude. he makes comments like "And who would believe you are filing bugs without giving any useful data." [02:01] hence the ':D' at the end of my "hm?" :P === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] wb jjesse :) [02:07] thanks i'm trying to swtich from a crappy laptop to a new laptop === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] hence the need to reparititon [02:09] Riddell: if you're still up. there's a bit of a progress now... it the distupgrade tool shows up for a split second then disappears. I get this in Konsole: "In file tools/qgvector.cpp, line 176: Out of memory; KCrash: Application 'dist-upgrade.py' crashing.." [02:12] argh I hate LP. It is so damn slow [02:13] nixternal: i was just thinking i'm glad it's actually fast today [02:13] heh :) [02:14] lovely, my patches cause the Ubuntu Installer to spam the hell out of me [02:15] that's awsesome [02:15] haha, I am glad you think so [02:16] for each release (Breezy through Feisty) and each Architecture it sends 1 email [02:16] so breezy sends an email for each arch, then dapper, then edgy, then feisty [02:18] OK, I am going for ice cream, anyone interested :) [02:19] nixternal: send some my way ;) and close bug 44955 [02:19] Malone bug 44955 in ept "adept applet panel icon flicker" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44955 === lnxkde [n=lnxOsX@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] is the debconf window that opens from adept updater and complains about nice values which leads to the updates failing an adept bug? It happend the other day here again. [02:27] firephoto: it's an xorg bug as far as is known unless i missed some news [02:28] nixternal: is this accurate? "Linspire to be Based on Kubuntu, first Ubuntu-based distro to have Click and Run: Linspire announced that they will be switching to base their distribution off Ubuntu. With their polished KDE desktop this makes Linspire the latest in the impressive list of operating systems based off Kubuntu." [02:28] i though that was "old" news [02:28] yuriy: ok, I searched for adept bugs related to it so if it's xorg that explains me not finding anything. [02:29] UWN is running it only today... [02:29] firephoto: ahah. that would explain why so many people filed the bug [02:30] firephoto: bug 68267 [02:30] Malone bug 68267 in xorg "x11-common loop asking 'Please enter an integer between -20 and 19.' at debconf medium or higher" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68267 [02:31] nixternal: were you able to get Riddell's message (+6 hours ago) about the French actually using Kubuntu (and not Ubuntu as the UWN says)? === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] does anybody know the status of bug 75713? [02:54] Malone bug 75713 in adept "does not check diskspace" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75713 [02:54] Jucato: I don't do the UWN, I try to stay away from it [02:54] :D [02:55] nixternal, imbrandon: it might be nice to edit that story and point out the french are actually using Kubuntu [02:55] hehe, ya I used to do the UWN, but it has been through so many hands and hasn't been able to get right ever since === nixternal holds back *marketing* comments ;p [02:56] *yawn* about a dozen unconfirmed+undecided bugs left. anybody up for it? === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-146.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@24-50-28-33.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72321.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxOsX@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:18] Riddell: bug 91749 :( I can fix it and will do and give you a debdiff if it can be uploaded [05:18] Malone bug 91749 in kubuntu-docs "file confict with ubuntu-docs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91749 [05:18] it doesn't mess with any strings, just renames firefox-index.html to something else in debian/postinst === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:56] argh, I need to get this doc pkg fixed but the postinst script isn't doing its job correctly === Hobbsee waves === nixternal waves back [07:02] :) === chavo [n=chavo@24-50-28-33.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:15] hi Hobbsee! [07:15] hey Jucato! [07:18] Hobbsee: I looked through the Kopete bugs last night... marked some as Needs Info, some as confirmed, and some I filed upstream bugs and linked to it... === Jucato now forgets what bugs he worked on.. [07:19] Jucato: cool :) [07:20] Hobbsee: but I did notice something strange though.. the moment I changed the status of the kopete bugs, LP complains that kopete is a binary package blahblah and turns it into a kdenetwork bug.. [07:23] Jucato: ah yes. kopete source is no longer existant anymore - it's back in kdenetwork, so that' sfine [07:23] aaah only in source code? (we still package a separate binary for it?) [07:24] ie, the binary comes from kdenetwork now, not kopete [07:24] so we dont package a separate binary for it [07:24] oh [07:25] Hobbsee: about bug 26936, we can probably fix it on Kubuntu first before upstream... or wait for them. I filed an upstream bug for it anyway [07:25] Malone bug 26936 in kdenetwork "unindent keyboard shortcut not working in kate" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26936 [07:25] Jucato: both, probably, if that's the ctrl+shift+i one. [07:25] (btw, Ctrl+Shift+R is used in Konqueror) [07:25] yep. that's the one [07:25] ahh [07:26] I suggest Ctrl+Shift+M, but I'm not totally sure if some other app uses it... === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-108-173.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] how can I force removal of a package that doesn't want to go? [07:35] I have tried everything I can think of without any luck [07:38] apt-get remove --purge [07:38] tried that as well, no luck [07:39] you'd have better luck pastebinning what you get when you try each option then [07:39] unless you want us to tell you "defenestrate the computer, or reformat the machine, for optimum results" [07:39] or do the 3 R's of Windows: Reboot, Reformat, Reinstall :) [07:41] Jucato: you mean the 10 R's of windows? Reboot, Reformat, Reinstall, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot, Reboot [07:41] oh yeah hehehe [07:41] i think i'll count how many it takes next time [07:42] got it, booged prerm file in var/lib/dpkg/info/ [07:42] btw yuriy, I'll still be going over the other ept bugs. some seem to be valid, but are probably too late (or too low) to fix for feisty [07:43] Jucato: i think the ones remaining are actually the important ones -- crashes and such. and of course the suckiness at dealing with breakage. most of the confirmed ones are low. [07:43] ah.. ok... [07:45] yuriy: can we set bug 48682 to confirmed? I think it's a known issue that apt doesn't work w/ proxies ootb? [07:45] Malone bug 48682 in ept "adept doesn't work behind a proxy server" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48682 [07:46] Jucato: yeah. i just didn't really have a way to confirm it myself. afaiu, synaptic has settings for it? [07:46] I can't confirm it myself either... but based on a lot of questions in IRC and the forums, it's a common problem [07:47] k. that should go upstream [07:47] upstream... to... him? [07:48] lol yes [07:48] i saw a comment by him that he probably wouldn't have time to get adept 3.0 done until december :( [07:48] ah... by that time... KDE 4... :) [07:49] so it still won't be redone for feisty+1 [07:51] whoa SoC applications are tommorrow through the 24th [07:51] do we even have an ideas page? [07:51] a KDE/Kubuntu package manager? :D [07:52] Jucato: exactly :D well, to be accurate, somebody to take on adept 3 === yuriy has to get on with getting a real job for this summer === Jucato is going to really study programming to be eligible for a "distance learning" diploma in computer science to be able to get a real job... === Hobbsee gets rid of one of hte adept bugs [07:54] !time Sydney [07:55] time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB [07:55] @time sydney [07:55] err how do you work that thing again? [07:55] Current time in Australia/Sydney: March 13 2007, 17:55:13 [07:55] ah. [07:55] i was wondering if you're half a day ahead or behind me [07:55] ahead [07:56] definitely ahead === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:01] wow 5 ideas listed... i think ubuntu had like 15 slots last year [08:01] kubuntu has 4 slots right? [08:01] Jucato: yeah, it did last year [08:01] this year too [08:02] people can submit whatever ideas they want [08:02] they shouldn't limit themselves to what others spoonfeed them [08:02] i think they made the applications a little too early though === Jucato stares at System Settings again.... [08:04] eh? [08:04] just looking for something... [08:05] there's a nice kcm in kcontrol that lets you very conveniently clean up different kinds of cache in one place... not there in system settings... wondering if it's a feature or a bug... [08:10] man, I am glad I caught this kubuntu-docs issue before it went to press [08:10] although I have been working on it for hours now [08:10] the prerm file is booged, and why we have never received a bug on it I will never know [08:11] isn't that the file conflicts bug? [08:11] yes, but it goes even deeper === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db445ea.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:11] I have the file confliction part fixed now I think [08:11] I had to rename firefox index files [08:17] night [08:18] night yuriy! === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@87.52.181.74] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] <_StefanS_> hi there === _StefanS_ has finally got a working internet connection again.. [08:30] hi _StefanS_ [08:30] why what happened? [08:31] _StefanS_!! [08:31] <_StefanS_> Well the upgrade went far from smooth.. [08:31] <_StefanS_> they capped the line, upgraded it and then left me with an old modem that doesn't do adsl2+ [08:31] oh... [08:32] <_StefanS_> I managed to get another modem, but then my ip was wrong [08:32] <_StefanS_> anyways, it was better than the last time... I had to wait for 5 days [08:32] <_StefanS_> but it works great now... just snagged an iso with 1,5mb/s from u.s. [08:33] :D [08:36] <_StefanS_> so anything new happening ? === Jucato still stuck to Edgy... [08:54] where are these people getting the edgy-proposed repo from!?!? :/ === Jucato grumbles... [08:55] edgy proposed is a legit repo [08:56] yes.. but why do they have it? where are they getting it from? [08:56] they're not testing the dist-upgrade tool btw [08:56] it's the precursor to edgy-updates, for testing [08:56] because they're all asking the same question... [08:57] Jucato: it's the whole SRU thing [08:57] I know it's a valid repo... but they don't seem to know that it's a repo for testing packages.. hence sometimes they are surprised that they get this or that update that gives this or that problem [08:58] ahh [08:58] I'm more concerned on finding out "where" they're getting the repo from or who's recommending it... === freeflying_ [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:58] I mean, afaik, stuff in edgy-proposed are still "beta" [08:59] somewhere [08:59] at least it's something we have control over, and they're being careful that it doesnt break people's upgrades [08:59] (with conflicting version numbers) [09:00] well... the distupgrade tool is another matter entirely :) [09:01] hehe === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:04] <_StefanS_> ouch just saw that networkmanager problem over in launchpad .. [09:04] <_StefanS_> dont know how we should even fix that === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.6.131] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [09:53] Riddell: Do you have a set of slides about Kubuntu I can use? [09:53] I'm giving a talk at the national LUG about Kubuntu [09:54] And I'd rather not start from scratch creating slides =) [09:54] oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp (not complete as of edgy, though) [09:54] Where is that? === freeflying|away [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:55] in /usr/share/example-content iirc [09:55] not sure if the feisty version will be more complete. the one on edgy has some missing images and text [09:57] Jucato: Aye, that's a good start. [09:57] THanks! [09:58] no problem. that's the same slides I ran in a FOSS conference (just let it run... didn't talk at all hehehe) [09:58] sebas: Riddell's got various slideshows and stuff on kubuntu.org/~jr iirc [09:58] Yay, I consider that bad style though =) [09:58] A talk is mainly a talk, slides should just support the presentation, not the other way round. [09:58] not if you change the background, and the name :P [09:58] Hobbsee: Aye, thanks [09:59] Hm, can't get a listing there. [09:59] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/ [10:00] sebas: raphink did some kubuntu presentation in past [10:00] Jucato: Thanks [10:00] sebas: not sure whre are his slides [10:00] http://raphink.info/talks/ [10:00] hm.. would be nice if we could collect all these slides :) [10:00] hi raphink ;-) [10:00] :) [10:00] hi === Lure -> meeting [10:01] hf Luka ;-) [10:02] heya Lure === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@dslb-082-083-137-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] hi Lure -> meeting :D === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] <_StefanS_> does the stock ubuntu kernel handle more than 2gigs of memory ? === pascalFR [i=WyCXwOKx@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] _StefanS_: 4G. [10:32] grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.20-9-generic [10:32] CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y [10:34] <_StefanS_> great thanks [10:34] <_StefanS_> I wouldn't want to maintain my own 4gb kernel [10:34] <_StefanS_> I thought about upgrading my lappie to 3gb === sahin_w [i=kvirc@nat/hp/x-26a144cff4891cbf] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:46] sebas: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/lugradio2006/ === Jucato waves to Riddell [10:47] Jucato: what news? [10:47] it crashes. [10:48] let me see if I can get another backtrace... since the crash handler only showed up once.. [10:48] oh, arse [10:51] Riddell: crash handler didn't show up again. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10158/ [10:51] Riddell: but I was able to save a backtrace for that one time it did show up... gonna pastebin [10:52] Riddell: backtrace... no debugging symbols of course... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10159/ :( === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:32] Riddell: When was the last time I told you that I love you? [11:32] Those slides are exactly what I needed. [11:33] :D [11:33] Kubuntu love :) === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@C2996.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=xerosis@ug004.cs.man.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] anyone know where i can add things to the list of devices in 'rightclick on desktop -> configure desktop -> behavior -> device icons' ? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick pokes === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-26-227.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957C85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:46] mhb: did you ask for upgrade testers? I seem to have a few and I'm not sure where they're coming from? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-023-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.216.67.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:30] don't we supply a trash.desktop anymore? [01:32] we never did === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm4.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39] abattoir: some progress on the oem front I hear [01:39] hi Riddell :) [01:39] yes, it loops around in the last step though, that has to be fixed [01:39] Riddell: and then it can be uploaded [01:40] Riddell: any idea if there is going to be a new wallpaper for feisty? [01:41] abattoir: I uploaded one from kwwii yesterday which is just a variant in the shades [01:42] Riddell: aah ok, because i use /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png as the background, so if there is any drastic change, i have to see if it still looks nice, that's why. thanks [01:42] there's no drastic change [01:43] Riddell: another thing, ubiquity and oem-config use 100% cpu here... is it because of self.app.processEvents() by any chance? [01:43] (only the kde-ui s ) [01:43] could be [01:43] maybe adding a small sleep somewhere would help === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] Riddell: oh ok, i'll have a look thanks === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N893P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] Riddell: trash.desktop was there in breezy. [02:02] not on the desktop. but available to copy there if one wanted. [02:03] ah well, patches welcome then :) [02:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: you just love patches dont you ;) === Hobbsee searches for the cluebat [02:03] mmm...patches === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db445ea.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] Riddell: do you know how one can add entries to 'kcmshell desktopbehavior' -> device icons ? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-230.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] fdoving: not a clue, look in the source and see where it gets that list from I guess [02:07] <_StefanS_> Riddell: wouldnt that be kdesktop ? [02:07] KmimeType::allMimeTypes(); [02:07] hmm.. [02:07] _StefanS_: it's kcontrol -> konq [02:08] in kdebase. [02:08] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I know Tonio has some knowledge into those mime types [02:08] fdoving: it'll be the files in /usr/share/mimelnk/media then [02:08] <_StefanS_> fdoving: in general I mean [02:08] Riddell: that's strange. because removable_unmounted.desktop exists there, but it's not in the list. [02:09] there is an exclude list in the source.. [02:09] QString excludedMedia=g_pConfig->readEntry("exclude","media/hdd_mounted,media/hdd_unmounted,media/floppy_unmounted,media/cdrom_unmounted,media/floppy5_unmounted"); [02:09] no removable_unmounted there either. [02:10] <_StefanS_> what are you working on? [02:11] _StefanS_: i want to be able to not mount removable devices when they are connected. [02:11] <_StefanS_> fdoving: oh, ok .. [02:11] but still access them from the desktop with the 'unmounted removable device' icon. [02:11] <_StefanS_> i see [02:12] i've hacked medianotifier to not mount when i select 'do nothing', but i need to make the icon appear on the desktop too. [02:12] Riddell: k3b rc7 was released today and final is supposed to be in the week - any chance of UVFe? [02:13] <_StefanS_> the new k3b is just so cool ! - sure hope it will make it :) [02:14] Lure: I don't want to upload unless trueg says it's ok to do so [02:14] Riddell: why would he not like it to get uploaded? [02:14] Riddell: I am more concerned that we might not get UVFe due to beta freeze [02:15] Riddell: I can play with packaging it (if seaLne and Tonio_ cannot do it) [02:15] Lure: asked on #kde-devel, he has said before he doesn't want rcs to be in (incase final doesn't make it, and to make a big splash) [02:15] Lure: sealne is offline for the forseable future [02:16] Riddell: ok, his rc5 package anyway did not work for me :-( [02:16] Riddell: before jumping on it, I would just like to know if there is reasonable chance to get it in (even if after beta freeze) [02:17] Lure: yes there is, but before the thursday freeze would certainly be best [02:18] Riddell: will do my best === Riddell hugs Lure === lnxkde [n=lnxOsX@206.248.110.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.6.131] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] Riddell: any chance to get libdvdread-dev in main (to get DVD ripping by default) [02:36] Lure: as long as it doesn't have css decryption in it I don't see why not [02:36] Lure: it would need a main inclusion review of course [02:36] Riddell: it should not have it, as it is in universe [02:39] Riddell: did you add digikamimageplugins to supported? I think this is required for MIR to be processed [02:39] Lure: I did yes [02:39] Riddell: so we need to wait a day to get to anastacia report and then ping someone (pitti?) [02:39] right? [02:40] Lure: it doesn't need that, just ping away [02:40] Lure: but if you want libdvdthing then best to batch them up and ping [02:40] what are the chances of a dist-upgrade from edgy to herd5 working correctly? [02:40] kwwii: use the dist-upgrade tool [02:40] Riddell: no, k3b depends will wait - maybe we should first get it in and change depends in next round (with MIR stuff) [02:41] Riddell: did you see the kubuntu-docs conflict bug? [02:41] kwwii: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade === nixternal is hating it right now [02:41] nixternal: I saw you talking about it and promising a patch === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] hehe [02:42] Heya [02:42] Riddell: I am glad someone posted this bug. Because with the current prerm file, it wouldn't uninstall kubuntu-docs. You would be stuck with it, unless you manually edited /var/libs/dpkg/info/kubuntu-docs.prerm [02:42] boo [02:42] booboo [02:43] hey, that is my daughter's nickname :) [02:44] Riddell: dude, that page doesn't sound very promising [02:44] Riddell: I really need this machine right now :-) [02:45] kwwii: with Oxygen moving to kdelibs, did they use old images to upload to kdelibs? I grabbed the png files yesterday and ummm, there were a lot of old non-oxygen icons [02:46] nixternal: That's funny. I call my middle daughter Beccaboo === Hobbsee notes that she still cant stomach the idea of work === Hobbsee waves goodnight [02:46] nixternal: I do not think so [02:46] kwwii: nice usplash design, btw [02:46] g'night Hobbsee! [02:46] night Hobbsee [02:46] Hobbsee: thnx :-) === kwwii takes a break, be back later === Hobbsee packs the cluebat, large amounts of mindnumbers, and the electric zapper for work tomorrow. [02:49] er, today === Hobbsee tries to remember if there was anything else she wanted to add to k-d-s [02:58] Riddell: new oem-config has been merged, so should get into the archives soon :) [02:59] exciting [03:11] kubuntu-docs conflicts with ubuntu-docs over /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/firefox-index.html [03:12] hunger: nixternal says he's working on it [03:12] Great, thanks. === acemo [n=acemo@ip5657ebcc.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato waves at Riddell, with a big grin :D [03:15] hunger: yes, and it is a pain in the arse :) [03:15] I am on the right track now. I am using the way edubuntu does their ff front page as it doesn't conflict :) [03:15] nixternal: do you divert? [03:15] hopefully in 15 minutes if everything goes well I will have a patch [03:16] fdoving: yes, but I wasn't diverting to the correct location, actually diverting to the same exact ubuntu location [03:16] Jucato: ? [03:16] ah. [03:16] Jucato: ?? [03:16] Riddell: no luck yet... [03:16]