[12:12] <frtmonster> the ubuntu community is so friendly, what's up with that, why do you have so much patience :)
[12:13] <agracey> is there a trick to installing on a sata 3.0 drive, the installer can't find my hdd
[12:13] <frtmonster> oh middle click
[12:13] <frtmonster> omg great
[12:13] <Fogge> Casue we are hippies thats why
[12:13] <stdin> umm, we're just nice people
[12:13] <lupare> \0/
[12:13] <delphine> hello :)
[12:13] <lupare> hellow
[12:13] <delphine> wow, cool hippies :)
[12:13] <agracey> sweet lets go smoke
[12:13] <Fogge> I remeber configging my first slackware server when i was 13 back in 98 or so
[12:14] <agracey> nvrmind that comment
[12:14] <Fogge> they were nice to me, but only cause i was so young ;D
[12:14] <delphine> omg, I was old in 98
[12:14] <delphine> okkkk
[12:14] <agracey> i was still working in dos
[12:14] <lupare> i was 10 -_-
[12:14] <lupare> windows 95 :S
[12:14] <Fogge> Anyone who was old enough to have internet ENTER their lives and not just be there all the time are internet "old". :)
[12:14] <agracey> 10 also
[12:14] <lupare> bsod everywhere
[12:15] <agracey> ick
[12:15] <frtmonster> i was 10
[12:15] <delphine> I'm giving up, my kubuntu is letting me down.
[12:15] <delphine> Fogge: can I quote you on that one?
[12:15] <delphine> please please :)
[12:15] <agracey> dont give up just go find a friend who came come set it up for you
[12:15] <Fogge> delphine: Sure you can :D I've used that definition for ages
[12:15] <lupare> *me likes recursive chmod's
[12:15] <Fogge> Kids today dont know how good they have it!
[12:16] <lupare> true
[12:16] <SolidSource> alright anyone seen this when trying to access disc management? http://pastebin.sk/en/1060/
[12:16] <frtmonster> say, they put ubuntu on OLPC?
[12:16] <frtmonster> i know ubuntu is an african word, so maybe there's a correlation :p
[12:16] <Fogge> I mean, sure, im just 4-5 years older than the average internet user nowadays, but those are IMPORTANT 4-5 years in the middle of the nineties when internet hit home
[12:16] <delphine> agracey: I set it up myself
[12:16] <delphine> but now it's letting me down
[12:16] <delphine> after three months
[12:17] <delphine> and i'v gotten used to it and all
[12:17] <delphine> and I even was starting to use the GIMP
[12:17] <Minataku> I'm 21, almost 22
[12:17] <delphine> ;)
[12:17] <Minataku> I experienced Pre-WWW
[12:17] <frtmonster> agracey: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients) - this one?
[12:17] <Minataku> I had Prodigy for a spell, the old DOS client version
[12:17] <Fogge> 85 was a good year ;)
[12:17] <pyrotix> stdin: ty, was reading the man page of ln, what is the difference between a hard link and a symbolic?
[12:17] <delphine> Fogge: darn it, i was like... 27 in 98 ;)
[12:17] <Fogge> Wow, that IS old ;)
[12:17] <delphine> see ;)
[12:18] <lupare> indeed -_-
[12:18] <Minataku> lol
[12:18] <pyrotix> I wasn'y born in 85 :(
[12:18] <Fogge> You had COMPUTERS enter your life, not just internet
[12:18] <lupare> 1988 ftw
[12:18] <pyrotix> '91
[12:18] <khirr> somebbody knows one msn client similar as WML?
[12:18] <delphine> not only did internet ENTER my life, but i was COMPLETELY aware when it did :P
[12:18] <delphine> Fogge: yep
[12:18] <delphine> and mobile phones
[12:18] <delphine> and CDs
[12:18] <Fogge> There were computers when i was six or seven, but like 486 was bleeding edge
[12:18] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Check it out, I made some screencaps XD
[12:18] <stdin> pyrotix: heh, now you're asking a tough question, tough to explain anyway
[12:19] <pyrotix> stdin: if you don't want to answer do you know where I can look it up?
[12:19] <stdin> pyrotix: I was just geting you the links :P
[12:19] <lupare> stdin is too nice
[12:19] <delphine> sooo. If I say kdm_greet[4559]  Can't open default user face
[12:20] <stdin> pyrotix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Link and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[12:20] <Krishean> alright, im getting this error while trying to launch amaya: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_colormap: assertion
[12:20] <Krishean> `!GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed
[12:20] <delphine> does anyone know what I can do against that?
[12:20] <delphine> since I am an old woman and all
[12:20] <lontra> anyone know if you need the kde4base-dev packages to start up kde4?
[12:20] <lupare> gtk on kde, shame yourself :p
[12:20] <delphine> I'm sure you youngsters can help me :)
[12:20] <lupare> oh shit, you use xubuntu right?
[12:21] <stdin> lontra: I doubt you'll need the -dev package
[12:21] <bonbonthejon> delphine: does kdm not work?
[12:21] <lontra> stdin: yeah i can't run it as a session...surprise surprise :D
[12:21] <Silveira_Neto> Is someone having problem with kdelibs4c2a package? Just me?
[12:22] <agracey> frtmonster: sry i walked away, yes it is
[12:22] <delphine> bonbonthejon: how would I know? (and then she realizes her computer is busy doing something else just right now)
[12:22] <lupare> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:22] <agracey> there are also alot of tools that can be used with it
[12:22] <bonbonthejon> delphine: can you log in with kdm, or does it not get that far?
[12:23] <delphine> I log in. No problem.
[12:23] <stdin> delphine: check your ~/.xsession-errors for clues
[12:24] <GeorgeMoney> Earlier, i uninstalled python thinking i would not need it, but then it completely broke KDE. I then reinstalled kubuntu-desktop and everything's back to normal, except: it only detects one resolution 640x480. I am using an "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF". Is there some driver that the original kubuntu installer had that the kubuntu-desktop package doesn't?
[12:24] <delphine> stdin: will do (i'm running a memtest too, cos I have this internal error:memory corruption detected too)
[12:24] <frtmonster> agracey: it's already installed, and as i just checked, it's working
[12:25] <frtmonster> it kills me why linux isn't more popular considering how user friendly it has become
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[12:25] <lupare> anyone running a lamp server here?
[12:25] <bonbonthejon> lupare: yeah
[12:25] <stdin> GeorgeMoney: try reconfigureing your x server with, "sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[12:26] <agracey> frtmonster: sweet, does the midi work now
[12:26] <lupare> that can mess up your config real bad ;)
[12:26] <frtmonster> yea i'm trying to get it work on something else tho
[12:26] <agracey> ok
[12:26] <frtmonster> agracey:  you use a midi keyboard too?
[12:26] <bonbonthejon> lupare: did you have a question about lamp?
[12:26] <GeorgeMoney> stdin: ok i'm there, i'll work with that for a while and say something if i screw it up :D
[12:27] <agracey> no but i have before and am hoping to buy one soon
[12:27] <frtmonster> what sofware for linux do you use then?
[12:27] <lupare> bonbonthejon: no, I was just wondering
[12:27] <frtmonster> which one are you considering buying
[12:27] <stdin> GeorgeMoney: the "-phigh" limit's the questions you're asked to the driver you want (stick with the default one, "ati" i think) and the resolutions you want to use
[12:27] <agracey> i am looking at the m-audio oxygen
[12:28] <GeorgeMoney> stdin: all i see is tga, trident, tseng, and vesa
[12:28] <GeorgeMoney> it had vesa default highlighted
[12:29] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: vesa is the default
[12:29] <GeorgeMoney> hmm but i dont see ati anywhere
[12:29] <GeorgeMoney> am i missing a driver?
[12:30] <frtmonster> agracey: i had an m audio i exchanged it
[12:30] <frtmonster> i had evolution
[12:30] <frtmonster> oxygen is a better choice i reckon
[12:30] <tarnold> how do i install skype?
[12:30] <bonbonthejon> !skype
[12:30] <frtmonster> tarnold get easy ubuntu
[12:30] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:30] <agracey> i dont actually have a midi input so I need the usb
[12:30] <tarnold> ive downloaded the debian package from the skype website
[12:30] <frtmonster> i am using a usb as well
[12:30] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: ist not suggested to use easy ubunutu or automatix
[12:31] <frtmonster> agracey what programs do you use
[12:31] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: try "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-driver-ati"
[12:31] <compilerwriter> Tarnold try ekiga instead of skype.  My experience with skype is that it does not play well with Linux.
[12:31] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: why, can they screw things up?
[12:32] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: yes, they have created a lot a headaches in the past, especially when people went from dapper to edgy
[12:32] <tarnold> well my grandparents have skype already
[12:32] <frtmonster> i i see
[12:32] <tarnold> i did it once not sure
[12:32] <agracey> a mix I dont remember the names right now as they are on my desktop, it is my studio computer
[12:32] <jack_> hi, when i watch a film within a website the embedded player in firefox works fine, but there is just too much white, picture too bright,how
[12:33] <jack_> can i fix thta?
[12:33] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: what's the one that is coming out in april?
[12:33] <agracey> I tryed to install java using synaptics and it is frozen how can I fix this
[12:33] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: feistyt
[12:33] <frtmonster> ya
[12:33] <agracey> it wants an input
[12:33] <frtmonster> what would be the main improvements of it? you kno?
[12:34] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: ok i have installed that, now should i restart or simply go back to the configure option?
[12:34] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: try reconfiguring, hopefully ati will show up
[12:34] <frtmonster> agracey: what program are you planning to use with your keyboard on linux?
[12:34] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: some changes, it has KDE 3.5.6, some art updates
[12:35] <jack_> it is the Movie Player plugin, using xine-lib version 1.1.2
[12:35] <agracey> ok well it is dinner time so peace
[12:35] <stdin> ooh, I hate X
[12:35] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: then i won't need to update right? i have xubuntu, using XFCE
[12:35] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: I dont know what will change in xubuntu, this is the room for kubuntu
[12:36] <frtmonster> yeah bonbonthejon but isn't feisty shared by xubuntu and kubuntu?
[12:37] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: err.... it still only has the default ones :(
[12:38] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: yeah, they share a lot, if you have dapper, there are some speed improvements in edgy+, but I dont know what changes there are in xfce
[12:38] <fatman2>  hello i am fatman and i weigh 400 pounds.  you can see videos of my supreme fatness at www.fatman.tk
[12:38] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: i dont know, try restarting
[12:40] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: i have the latest one
[12:40] <GeorgeMoney> ok brb
[12:40] <stdin> GeorgeMoney: make sure you have ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal installed
[12:40] <stdin> ooh, too late :P
[12:40] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: edgy? I dont know how much will change for you
[12:41] <tarnold> hey can ekiga or what not interface with skype?
[12:41] <bonbonthejon> !ekiga
[12:41] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[12:41] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: then it's not too bad i used easyubuntu :p
[12:41] <bonbonthejon> frtmonster: don't use that anymore, it could cause problems, ask here how to install stuff
[12:42] <tarnold> i can't even get my microphone htats bult into the laptop lid to skype
[12:42] <archangel_> hey how do I become root in terminal?
[12:42] <Silveira_Neto> I want to install the package kdebase-dev, but it needs the package kdelibs4-dev, but it needs the package kdelibs4c2a. I have this package in version 3.5.6, but the apt wants/and don't want to install the 3.5.5. What can I do?
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> !root | archangel_
[12:42] <ubotu> archangel_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <stdin> archangel_: sudo -s or sudo -i
[12:43] <archangel_> thanks
[12:44] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: I rebooted, but it is still on the bad resolution. What was that config command again?
[12:44] <bashir> hey
[12:44] <bashir> what package do i need to play mp3
[12:44] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[12:44] <bonbonthejon> !mp3 | bashir
[12:44] <ubotu> bashir: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:45] <frtmonster> bonbonthejon: ok
[12:45] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: odd, now it just runs for 2 seconds and exits
[12:45] <stdin> GeorgeMoney: make sure you have ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal installed and xserver-xorg-driver-all (dapper) or xserver-xorg-video-all (edgy) installed
[12:46] <GeorgeMoney> hmm
[12:46] <GeorgeMoney> ubuntu-standard are kernels or what?
[12:46] <archangel_> I'm not allowed to copy a file to /etc/apt
[12:46] <stdin> it's the standard set of packages (mostly command line stuff)
[12:46] <bonbonthejon> archangel_: "sudo cp /source/file /destination/file"
[12:47] <stdin> archangel_: are you using sudo?
[12:47] <jack_> hi my xine plugin in firefox is way too bright, how can i fix that?
[12:47] <bashir> amarok was supposed to download and install  libxine-extracodecs automatically i guess, that didnt happen, oh well if this is what i need i should be all set
[12:48] <Silveira_Neto> KDE 3.5.6 are already in the official tree of Kubuntu?
[12:48] <bashir> can i decrease brightness of all of kde?
[12:49] <stdin> Silveira_Neto: in feisty, yeah
[12:49] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: so, i had everything of that except the ubuntu-minimal, so i installed that but it still doesn't work. What i'm wondering is why it stopped working after i rebooted..
[12:50] <iamedu> hi i need some help to install a wireless card
[12:50] <iamedu> on kubuntu
[12:50] <bashir> waht kind of wireless card?
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> !wireless | iamedu
[12:50] <ubotu> iamedu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:50] <iamedu> thanks, i have read some docummentation i have a broadcom 4318 card
[12:51] <iamedu> i have followed a tutorial in ubuntuforums
[12:51] <iamedu> but it doesn't work
[12:51] <iamedu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[12:51] <iamedu> that's the one
[12:51] <bashir> is that an external card?
[12:51] <Silveira_Neto> stdin: feisty is beta isn't?
[12:51] <iamedu> nope
[12:51] <iamedu> it's internal
[12:51] <bashir> alpha
[12:52] <|Jason8|> How do I turn on rejoin after kick in konversation?
[12:52] <stdin> Silveira_Neto: actually, it's still alpha :P the beta is out on 22 Mar
[12:52] <stdin> |Jason8|: you can't
[12:52] <Silveira_Neto> :)
[12:53] <|Jason8|> aw.  that's a bummer.
[12:53] <tesuki_> hello, how does linux manage Fullscreen applications? games and such?
[12:53] <stdin> |Jason8|: you would have been kicked for a reason :P
[12:53] <bashir> try xchat
[12:54] <iamedu> so, no one has idea how to set it up?
[12:54] <iamedu> it works flawlessly on windows
[12:54] <stdin> so do viruses
[12:54] <Chani> I can't seem to find gpg-agent
[12:54] <iamedu> haha yes
[12:54] <bashir> i need to reboot
[12:54] <iamedu> I really need it to work on my kubuntu
[12:55] <iamedu> ok
[12:55] <stdin> Chani: you mean gnupg-agent ?
[01:00] <Chani> stdin: that might explain it :)
[01:01] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: i found the problem, it had a secret scroll :D
[01:01] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: good, you figured it out
[01:02] <tarnold> !ekiga
[01:02] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[01:06] <|Jason8|> If I want to install the right repository to listen to MP3's in kubuntu, how do I do that in the Adept manager?
[01:06] <tecie1980> is there a good hotkeys program out there for edgy? I'd like certain text to be inserted if I press something like ctrl-alt-R
[01:07] <|Jason8|> oh hey, I figured it out
[01:07] <|Jason8|> nevermind
[01:07] <|Jason8|> wait.
[01:07] <|Jason8|> the universe lines are already uncommented...
[01:07] <GeorgeMoney> bonbonthejon: thank you! i can actually fit something completely on my screen now! :D
[01:08] <bonbonthejon> GeorgeMoney: glad to help
[01:08] <bonbonthejon> tecie1980: in kcontrol, under keyboard I think, you can assign macros to keystrokes
[01:08] <tecie1980> thanks
[01:10] <AxlRose> is anyon here very familiar with amarok
[01:10] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: whats the problem
[01:11] <krawek> hi
[01:11] <bonbonthejon> hi krawek
[01:11] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  I have like 6 albums with corrupted cover art and I can't fix it
[01:11] <krawek> I have a problem loading shared libraries on dapper, I get: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> arg... need to fix my hw clock again
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> !hwclock
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hwclock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <krawek> I'm compiling a ruby extension, any idea?
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> !clock
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <bonbonthejon> firemonkeyballz: you using ntp?
[01:12] <firemonkeyballz> thought I was
[01:12] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  I've deleted all the conguration files and cover art caache and even tried reinstalling it
[01:12] <firemonkeyballz> I installed it
[01:12] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  but those few albums stay the same
[01:12] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: the art is probably stored in the mp3 or folder
[01:12] <AxlRose> nope I looked there
[01:12] <firemonkeyballz> just need to upgrade then I'll be rid of this problem
[01:13] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  it's like it's storing these images somewhere but I can't find where
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: in the mp3?
[01:14] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  like embedded in?
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: yeah
[01:14] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon:  how would I know if it's doing that
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: have you tried resaving the cover art
[01:15] <AxlRose> yep
[01:15] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon: yep, and it still shows the corrupted stuff
[01:15] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon: even if I save it as a totally differnt picture than it should be
[01:15] <bonbonthejon> AxlRose: I dont know, I would suggest asking in #amarok, but I doubt you will get an answer
[01:16] <AxlRose> bonbonthejon: thanks
[01:21] <p1s> hi all
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> @#$!
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> clock
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> completely locked out
[01:21] <firemonkeyballz> grrr
[01:22] <p1s> does anyone know a adress on the web where graphics.h are discribes
[01:24] <p1s> is someone?
[01:27] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: So, what is it you need to fix about your clock?
[01:28] <firemonkeyballz> well I cant acces su
[01:28] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[01:32] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: That's ok, ubuntu is designed not to use su.
[01:32] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: Again, what do you need to fix about your clock?
[01:32] <lipe> which is the best way to install the newer version of kde ??? please ...
[01:33] <stdin> lipe: are you on edgy or dapper?
[01:33] <firemonkeyballz> umm I kant use any version of su
[01:33] <firemonkeyballz> aka sudo
[01:33] <lipe> stdin: dapper
[01:33] <firemonkeyballz> kesudo
[01:33] <firemonkeyballz> ....
[01:34] <stdin> lipe: kde 3.5.6 is only available on edgy, if you want it, you'll have to upgrade to edgy
[01:34] <lipe> stdin: is it safe ?
[01:34] <stdin> lipe: edgy? yeah, it's stable
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> stdin Im trying to upgrade to edgy
[01:34] <lipe> stdin: so, what should i do to upgrade it ?
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> and this is in the way
[01:34] <lipe> stdin: please :)
[01:35] <stdin> follow the guide
[01:35] <stdin> !upgrade
[01:35] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:35] <lipe> stdin: thx u very much
[01:35] <lipe> stdin: and... after it .. how can i install kde ?
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> I realy cant do that at the moment
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> hello
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> I cant use su
[01:35] <stdin> lipe: you just add the repo from kubuntu.org
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> sudo
[01:36] <stdin> errors?
[01:36] <lipe> oh, ok !
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> or even kde's version
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[01:36] <lipe> stdin: thx u very much !
[01:36] <lipe> stdin: is it a good idea ?
[01:36] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: what errors?
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> su returned with errors
[01:36] <stdin> lipe: edgy? or kde 3.5.6?
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> in konsole
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> and in kde
[01:36] <lipe> stdin: both ...
[01:36] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: Turn it left twice, then three times to the right.
[01:36] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: it doesnt specify what errors?
[01:36] <stdin> lipe: they are both good :)
[01:36] <firemonkeyballz> har har
[01:37] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: If you want us to guess, that's as good an answer as you'll get.
[01:37] <firemonkeyballz> its a time stamp error
[01:37] <firemonkeyballz> verry bad time stamp error
[01:37] <chavo> firemonkeyballz, paste it in pastebin
[01:37] <lipe> stdin: thxu very much ! :)
[01:37] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: In that case, turn it off and on again three times, real fast.
[01:38] <lipe> stdin: GOD bless u !! cya ! thx u
[01:38] <stdin> :)
[01:38] <c0nv1ct> jhutchins: shouldnt he use windex on something too?
[01:38] <chavo> while tapping your heals together of course
[01:38] <jhutchins> Yeah, he should spray windex liberally into the power supply fan while it's running.
[01:39] <jhutchins> Sometimes it helps if you jerk the plug in and out of the wall socket as quick as you can.
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> chavo... I dont think I can print the screen to paste bin
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> oi
[01:39] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: Can you type?
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> dude you guys need sleep
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> Im saying in the GUI
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> i get errors
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> and in konsole I get timestamp errors
[01:40] <jhutchins> firemonkeyballz: Point is, if you don't tell us WHAT SPECIFIC ERRORS you're getting, you're just wasting screen space.
[01:40] <jhutchins> Although we're psychic, we're not going to waste our powers trying to figure out which error it is.
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> umm dude im spelling it out clearly
[01:42] <Jucato> error*
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> im sure you know what a time stamp error does
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> hrm someone is catching on
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> use your noodle or get some sleep
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> oh yea thats right you dont like helping me
[01:43] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: have you tried rebooting? sometimes it works... there's a sudo command to fix that but I forgot what
[01:43] <jhutchins> Right, I'm outa here.
[01:44] <stdin> firemonkeyballz: sudo -k or sudo -K ?
[01:44] <tom_> need help getting my media player to work
[01:44] <Jucato> ah there! what stdin said
[01:44] <firemonkeyballz> nothing dude
[01:44] <Jucato> tom_: which media player? and what's the problem?
[01:44] <firemonkeyballz> no temp login to root period
[01:45] <tom_> i dont have one i quess i cant play any vidieos
[01:45] <Jucato> tom_: Kaffeine is used to play videos. what kind of videos?
[01:45] <tom_> i just installed kubuntu on my comp
[01:45] <khirr> whats the diferent between edgy and dapper?
[01:46] <Jucato> !dapper
[01:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:46] <Jucato> !edgy
[01:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:46] <tom_> like flash
[01:46] <Jucato> tom_: ah. that's different :)
[01:46] <Jucato> !flash | tom_
[01:46] <ubotu> tom_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:47] <tom_> its used on windows side alot i quess just not on linux
[01:47] <Jucato> tom_: of course it's used here. but you have to install the codec
[01:47] <Jucato> err sorry plugin
[01:47] <tom_> i was told there was something i had to install but cant rember what
[01:48] <Jucato> tom_: read the first link above (RestricteFormats)
[01:48] <tom_> ok  can u guide me where to get it
[01:48] <KrAmMeR> how do i get amarok to use another sound card that I have?  and not the default one that it picks...
[01:50] <n8k99> tom_ you download the flash player/plugin from adobe
[01:50] <tom_> kk thank u
[01:51] <KrAmMeR> its set in kmix as the one I want....
[01:51] <jjesse> what's the easiest way to resize an ntfs partition?
[01:53] <stdin> jjesse: derangement, check the disk, then use gparted from a live cd
[01:53] <jjesse> stdin: i tried from a feisty boot disk and couldnt
[01:54] <stdin> jjesse: I'd try edgy, or dapper. fiesty isn't exactly stable
[01:54] <jjesse> stdin: can i repartition under edgy and then use a live fiesty disk to install, and yes i know feisty isn't too stable
[01:55] <stdin> jjesse: yeah, you can do that
[01:55] <Ash-Fox> Great... blacklist the  ipv6 module to stop kde from having issues and now firefox doesn't want to work because ipv6 is blacklisted
[01:58] <tarnold> my laptop mic thats built in isn't working and Ive tried running skype, and would try to record something but not sure if any defualt recording features is included by default would some one know?
[01:58] <jjesse> stdin: from the command line jsut type gparted?
[01:58] <firemonkeyballz> man... why does a software clock have to be standard?
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> well im upgrading now so
[01:59] <stdin> jjesse: yeah, that or qtparted (from the kubuntu disk)
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> doesnt matter
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> finally upgrading
[01:59] <jjesse> currently using a dapper install
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> !!!
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> jjesse
[01:59] <firemonkeyballz> get easyubuntu
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> trust me
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> and upgrade
[02:00] <firemonkeyballz> this clock problem is crippling
[02:03] <Ash-Fox> !ipv6
[02:03] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:05] <tarnold> whats the clock problem?
[02:06] <jhutchins_lt> tarnold: You're supposed to guess.
[02:06] <jhutchins_lt> You know, the clock problem!
[02:08] <Jucato> it's not a clock problem though... he can't change the clock time/date because of a sudo timestamp problem..
[02:08] <tarnold> how do i delete something i made in contact
[02:08] <tarnold> iv hit delete 6 times now
[02:09] <newtoubuntu> hi
[02:09] <tarnold> so much for permenant deleation
[02:09] <user__> Hello
[02:09] <tarnold> huh
[02:09] <newtoubuntu> I am back after a couple of frustrating days
[02:09] <newtoubuntu> I was able to upgrade my ubuntu from dapper to edgy
[02:09] <newtoubuntu> but I have some issues
[02:09] <khirr> is there some problem with kopte 0.12.3
[02:10] <newtoubuntu> when I go to the tty# I only see some green lines going across (as if my video wouldn't work(
[02:10] <khirr> i cant see all my contact list
[02:10] <newtoubuntu> anybody willing to help?
[02:11] <newtoubuntu> and by the way my whole kubuntu side of the machine totally doesn't work
[02:11] <newtoubuntu> it is as if it wouldn't exist
[02:14] <jhutchins_lt> newtoubuntu: Sorry to say it, but it might be easier to do a "clean install" of Edgy rather than try to fix everything.  Did you try the vide fix?
[02:15] <jhutchins_lt> !video fix
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <jhutchins_lt> !fixres
[02:15] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:15] <newtoubuntu> thanks
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> http://pastebin.ca/392745
[02:15] <newtoubuntu> I will try that
[02:15] <me2win> !wpa
[02:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> the results
[02:16] <newtoubuntu> jhutchins_lt: thank you very much
[02:16] <newtoubuntu> jhutchins_lt: I will be trying that
[02:16] <firemonkeyballz> think im safe
[02:16] <firemonkeyballz> rebooting
[02:17] <pyrotix> what kernel does 6.10 use?
[02:17] <stdin> 2.6.17-11
[02:18] <PollyO> Is the next version of Kubuntu due out April?
[02:18] <stdin> yep, Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[02:18] <bonbonthejon> !feisty | PollyO
[02:18] <ubotu> PollyO: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:19] <archangel_> is this command right.....   sudo apt-get install easyubuntu
[02:19] <PollyO> I can boot with the new version that is being tested but not the older version (6.10)
[02:20] <Jucato> !easyubuntu | archangel_
[02:20] <ubotu> archangel_: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:22] <firemonkeyballz> well im back
[02:22] <firemonkeyballz> that can only mean one thing
[02:29] <KrAmMeR> can anyone help me with my sound cards?
[02:30] <compilerwriter> dromer Have you gotten anywhere with your ssh stuff?
[02:34] <firemonkeyballz> wweeeeee
[02:34] <firemonkeyballz> using orginal ati drivers
[02:34] <firemonkeyballz> hehe
[02:34] <ubuntu> hi
[02:34] <firemonkeyballz> smoother gears
[02:34] <firemonkeyballz> weee
[02:34] <ubuntu> you it colombia
[02:34] <compilerwriter> dromer this will get you up and running XDMCP:  http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming
[02:35] <ubuntu> hello   colombia ?
[02:36] <ubuntu> alguien de colombia
[02:36] <ubuntu> quien habla espaol ?
[02:36] <Jucato> !es | ubuntu
[02:36] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:36] <ubuntu> ok
[02:36] <firemonkeyballz> :P on edgy
[02:36] <ubuntu> espaol
[02:37] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[02:39] <archangel_> tom_:  #easyubuntu
[02:39] <tom_> cool thanks
[02:39] <archangel_> click on it
[02:39] <tom_> got it thanks
[02:41] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, neat package I found while drifting around the universe. Run "sudo apt-get install cmatrix" then type cmatrix
[02:41] <K-Ryan> Runs the console from the matrix, I love it =)
[02:42] <marc> hi
[02:42] <marc> allo
[02:42] <marc> need help
[02:42] <K-Ryan> With?
[02:42] <marc> whit putty
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> hehe got my ati controll
[02:42] <firemonkeyballz> :P
[02:42] <marc> hu
[02:43] <marc> my english is not good
[02:43] <marc> and
[02:43] <K-Ryan> !de
[02:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:43] <marc> i new in ubumtum
[02:43] <K-Ryan> What language do you speak?
[02:43] <marc> french
[02:43] <K-Ryan> !fr
[02:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:43] <ubuntu> spanihs
[02:44] <firemonkeyballz> <<--- has official ati drivers :PP
[02:44] <K-Ryan> They make a linux driver don't they?
[02:44] <K-Ryan> I had 'em, but then I swapped out my Ati 9800 for a GeForce 6600
[02:45] <firemonkeyballz> cant imagine installing edgy with out easyubuntu
[02:45] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[02:46] <sstchur> is it common that super karamba crashes / causes systems to be unstable?  I seem to have a lot of problems with it
[02:47] <Jucato> depends on the superkaramba theme
[02:48] <khirr> some knows the kmerlin repository?
[02:50] <sstchur> Jucato: I'm not that familiar w/ the program... what themes are known to have issues?
[02:51] <Jucato> not really sure. some themes just don't work as well as others
[02:52] <gekko_> Hullo...
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[02:53] <gekko_> Nifty, actually somebody awake :)
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Yeah, just changing the color of my clock...
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Believe me, people are awake, it's just they aren't glued to the chat.
[02:54] <gekko_> augh, okay, I just right now started out witha new install of Kubuntu, trying to figure out stuff... and when but right now the Kubuntu help forums are offline due to maintenance?! XD
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Whacha trying to do?
[02:54] <gekko_> lucky lucky :)
[02:54] <gekko_> trying to find a way to make ati x600 graphics work on my laptop
[02:54] <K-Ryan> !ati
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:55] <gekko_> oh neat
[02:55] <K-Ryan> I used the walkthroughs and I got my 9800 working.
[02:55] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:55] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:55] <gekko_> I'm really new to this whole thing, so sorry if I come up with stupid questions :)
[02:55] <K-Ryan> It's okay, we were all new at one point.
[02:56] <K-Ryan> I distinctly remember it for one, not that I'm an expert or anything I still have my share of questions.
[02:57] <gekko_> Right now I'm trying my luck with a dual boot system... and I'd just tinker about myself, but I'm scared to destroy my windows
[02:57] <ubuntu> hablo espaol
[02:57] <K-Ryan> !espanol
[02:57] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:57] <K-Ryan> de nada ;)
[02:57] <K-Ryan> gekko_ I myself run Kubuntu and XP
[02:57] <K-Ryan> No problems, conflicts, etc.
[02:58] <K-Ryan> You can't really do too much to your Windows unless you mean to.
[02:58] <K-Ryan> At worst you would format it when installing Kubuntu...
[02:58] <K-Ryan> But you're past that stage.
[02:58] <gekko_> That's what I thought... but a good while ago I ran a dualboot with win xp and open SuSE... and one day to the next the bootloader was kinda gone, nothing worked anymore
[02:59] <K-Ryan> A missing boot loader doesn't mean your stuff is gone
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Just means you need a new boot loader
[02:59] <RadiantFire> its fun and exciting
[02:59] <K-Ryan> I had trouble like that myself once, and I ended up reinstalling Windows due to lack of knowledge.
[02:59] <RadiantFire> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mbr count=1 bs=512
[02:59] <RadiantFire> and then you reinstall grub
[03:00] <K-Ryan> You have a live cd?
[03:00] <RadiantFire> actually wouldn't you write it to the start of your partition
[03:00] <RadiantFire> er, disk
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I beg your pardon?
[03:01] <RadiantFire> I've had cases were grub refused to install
[03:01] <RadiantFire> sometimes you have to zero out the mbr
[03:01] <RadiantFire> if you dd the first 512 bytes of your master disk, it will usually work after
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Never had that issue, I just had to put Grub on my primary
[03:01] <gekko_> ah that was a decent while ago, had less clue than today ;)
[03:01] <RadiantFire> i had a friend, grub got stuck in some kind of loop
[03:02] <RadiantFire> it would reboot his computer over and over again instead of booting
[03:02] <RadiantFire> I think in the end we used the xp disk mbrfix command or something, and then reinstalled grub overtop
[03:02] <morvok> dd of the mbr should be abit less than 512b if I remember correctly.
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Well good luck with everything gekko_ and don't be afraid to ask around in here. I've got to go now =)
[03:02] <RadiantFire> morvok: is it? I thought the mbr was 512 bytes
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Catch you guys on the flip side.
[03:03] <RadiantFire> thats something you'd want to get right though, losing your partition table from writting to many bytes is never good
[03:03] <morvok> RadianFire: I believe is somewhere around like 468 because of other things to do around the mbr, I found the best way is a dos floppy and running 'fdisk mbr'
[03:03] <archangel_> does suse have a channel?
[03:05] <Jucato> archangel_: #suse
[03:05] <Jucato> or #opensuse not sure which is correct
[03:05] <archangel_> suse didnt work for me
[03:05] <archangel_> thanks man
[03:10] <gekko_> hum, can anybody help me with my ati graphics problem please?
[03:12] <morvok> gekko: whats up?
[03:12] <firemonkeyballz> gekko whvat version of ubuntu
[03:13] <KrAmMeR> yea im trying to grahics card workin right too
[03:13] <KrAmMeR> a higher resolution
[03:13] <morvok> ?
[03:14] <alx__> somebody knows if can I install photoshop in my computer, i have installed kubuntu?!!
[03:14] <KrAmMeR> i know my video card has higher resolutions, but its not available to go to them
[03:16] <morvok> Krammer: I know the difficult way (for newbs) to do it.. just add modes "resolution" about 6 times in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <hayden_> can anyone recommend a good s/ftp client for kde?
[03:16] <morvok> in the screens section.
[03:17] <KrAmMeR> lol k
[03:17] <chavo> hayden_, konqueror works nicely
[03:17] <KrAmMeR> lemme look at it
[03:18] <alx__> somebody knows if can I install photoshop in my computer, i have installed kubuntu?!!
[03:18] <morvok> krammer: look for SubSection "display" below depth #, for each instants add modes "rosolution".
[03:19] <morvok> such that: modes "800x600"
[03:19] <KrAmMeR> yea i see it now
[03:19] <KrAmMeR> whats after 1024x768
[03:19] <KrAmMeR> lol i cant remember
[03:19] <morvok> such that: modes "1600x1200 1024x 768 800x600 "
[03:19] <morvok> such that: modes "1600x1200 1024x768 800x600 "
[03:19] <jpgomez> anyone can help me to configura a Genius VideoCAM NB
[03:20] <skarface> KrAmMeR: probably 1280x1024
[03:20] <morvok> krammer: make sure to make a backup.. becuase it will fail if you don't have auxilary modes.
[03:21] <KrAmMeR> k
[03:22] <morvok> if all else fails you can boot into safe mode and move the backup back to running config.  than log back on and gimme sh**
[03:22] <morvok> :0
[03:22] <pete__> does anybody here know much about wine?
[03:22] <KrAmMeR> haha
[03:22] <skarface> it lowers cholesterol
[03:23] <morvok> bad hangover..
[03:23] <pete__> ok heres what i need to know...
[03:23] <scotty> Okay, I've got a bit of a problem. Sometimes the touchpad on my laptop just seems to quit working. Like the pointer won't respond to my movements, and when I try to click it won't work. Has anyone experienced anything like this? How can I remedy it? It's really annoying. Sometimes I have to boot my computer 5-6 times because my touchpad isn't responsive.
[03:23] <pete__> i applied the emulated desktop, but it is to small to fit the configuration program, so i can't apply any changes.  which conf file should i look at to remedy the problem??
[03:24] <KrAmMeR> do i have to log off and back on to see it?
[03:24] <pete__> i already looked at the one in /usr/bin/wineconf (i am pretty sure)
[03:25] <morvok> krammer: after changes save everything and reset the X server using ctrl+alt+backspace.  if the screen doesn't come back, reboot into safe mode and copy the original file back to its place.
[03:26] <morvok> krammer: after that we can go through the logs...
[03:32] <orange__> how do i recursively delete a directory?
[03:33] <morvok> ?
[03:33] <Chani> orange__: rm -r? but, uh, dopn't blame me if you delete something important :)
[03:33] <morvok> don't you have to -rf for directorys?
[03:34] <orange__> i wantg to delete home/orange/.wine
[03:34] <Jucato> orange__: you can delete that from Konqueror
[03:34] <orange__> and do a fresh install
[03:36] <firemonkeyballz> orange you mean like deltree?
[03:36] <orange__> i get access denied when tryin to empty recycle bin
[03:36] <firemonkeyballz> umm dont delete the recycle bin folder
[03:36] <orange__> for a flash.cfg file (i was installing flash professional 8 (not the player))
[03:37] <orange__> jus leave it in bin for ever?
[03:37] <firemonkeyballz> delete its conntents
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> not the folder
[03:38] <orange__> when u say contents u mean?
[03:38] <firemonkeyballz> what is in side
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> the folder
[03:39] <orange__> the method i used to install flash was very 'branchy'
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> well i gotta go take care of my health
[03:39] <firemonkeyballz> so
[03:39] <orange__> k cya
[03:39] <orange__> i got java hw to finish- handle this flash thing later
[03:41] <pete__> is there a comprable
[03:41] <pete__> program to wine that does mac instead
[03:41] <pete__> ?
[03:43] <NightBird> pete__: yes
[03:43] <morvok> pete_: thats takes alot of power when running on a i86..
[03:44] <pete__> well i guess its worth a shot... maybe : /
[03:44] <NightBird> er... wait... you want a program to run a windows program on mac?
[03:44] <morvok> pete_: what do you want to run?
[03:44] <NightBird> or a program to run mac programs?
[03:44] <pete__> mac program on linux
[03:44] <pete__> i couldnt get itunes going thru wine so i want to try the mac version
[03:44] <morvok> on a mac or x86?
[03:44] <pete__> x86
[03:45] <NightBird> pete__, I don't know of any attempts to get mac programs to run on linux
[03:45] <pete__> well, its probably hopeless, but ill give it a shot
[03:45] <morvok> pete_: don't they make an itunes for windows? you would be better off to stay with something built on an x86 arch.
[03:45] <NightBird> besides, wine has been under development for many years... and x86 mac has been around not very far...
[03:46] <pete__> yeah of course, but i turned desktop emulation on and now i cant reconfigure wine....
[03:46] <cube> help: i have two HD one with XP primary and the other one is brand new, when im trying to install kubuntu, it crashes before it opens the partioner, any idea why this is happening?
[03:47] <morvok> cube: did you run the memtest?
[03:48] <cube> no i didnt
[03:48] <Number7> Hi room
[03:48] <cube> do i need to..
[03:49] <cube> =/
[03:49] <morvok> cube: I have had that failure.. (with a different linux) windows runs fine, linux hates the memory. :)
[03:49] <morvok> cube: no harm in checking anyways.
[03:49] <cube> ok ill do that then,
[03:49] <cube> thanks
[03:49] <Number7> I'm abit new here can you folks introduce yourselfs?
[03:50] <morvok> hi, I am Morvok.
[03:50] <mjunx> I am who am
[03:50] <NightBird> Number7: there are 330 of us, and not all are present...
[03:50] <mjunx> ;p
[03:50] <Number7> Nice to meet you :-)
[03:51] <NightBird> Number7: I'm the goddamn batman
[03:51] <mjunx> nah, you're the car from mcgyver (sp)
[03:51] <bournenameless> 330 saying hello
[03:51] <mjunx> at least you are now, change your nick ;p
[03:51] <NightBird> mjunx. ssh... don't let him know that
[03:51] <mjunx> a flood of massive proportions!
[03:51] <NightBird> wait... is that the name of the car?
[03:52] <Number7> *chuckles*
[03:52] <mjunx> nightrider I think it is
[03:52] <mjunx> hmm, I don't remember
[03:52] <NightBird> I got my nickname from somewhere else
[03:52] <NightBird> and even now I'm starting to use a new nickname
[03:52] <Number7> NightWing?
[03:52] <mjunx> your first name must be mozilla
[03:52] <mjunx> *rimshot*
[03:52] <NightBird> something more appropriate for my personality
[03:54] <Number7> Anyone here into coding in python?
[03:54] <carutsu> scuse me how do i install Qt 4.2?
[03:55] <CaptainApathy> Number7: I loath python
[03:55] <KrAmMeR> yea i think i did something wrong haha
[03:56] <KrAmMeR> it just went blank
[03:56] <Number7> CaptainApathy: Do you? What do you like then?
[03:56] <Jucato> carutsu: install the libqt4 stuff
[03:56] <CaptainApathy> Number7: practically every other language I've used... except Java...
[03:56] <Jucato> let's not get into a this language vs. that language thing in here
[03:56] <KrAmMeR> i had to go to the backup file
[03:56] <morvok> krammer: that usually means the settings were out of range of the monitor.
[03:56] <CaptainApathy> C, C++, D, Lisp, asm, php...
[03:56] <KrAmMeR> when i made the backup, the file turned to xorg.conf~
[03:56] <Number7> Jucato: I'm a beginner programmer so I was looking for a python master to lend me their ear
[03:57] <Jucato> Number7: btw, there's a new channel called #ubuntu-programming you might want to look at
[03:57] <KrAmMeR> and there was no xorg.conf
[03:57] <morvok> krammer: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old.. should give some insight on what happened.
[03:57] <Jucato> Number7: then probably #python too
[03:57] <CaptainApathy> at least in comparison.... but the real question you need to ask is what do you want is it you are wanting to do?
[03:57] <CaptainApathy> yeah, #python will have people that will help you
[03:57] <carutsu> Jucato: isnt there a metapakage?
[03:58] <Number7> yeah, good idea
[03:58] <Jucato> carutsu: not that I'm aware of. Qt4 is very modular (split up) in Kubuntu
[03:58] <morvok> bed time for me.. night all
[04:00] <unix_infidel> wb Dr_willis
[04:01] <KrAmMeR> hmm cant really see anything in there
[04:01] <KrAmMeR> i think i made the backup file wrong
[04:06] <lahcen> hi guys
[04:06] <Number7> hello
[04:06] <lahcen> i got a little problem here with kxdocker
[04:07] <Number7> speak away
[04:07] <matrix> hi, i need some backup advice. i want to have my pictures on an external hard disk and mirrored on another one. my laptop hard disk is too small to store all of them and i want the secound copy for backup
[04:07] <lahcen> i installed it v1.1.4 and the resources and all i need
[04:07] <matrix> do you think that sounds reasonable and what tools do i use? unison??
[04:08] <lahcen> but when i run it and run the mouse over it, there is a black background
[04:08] <hatta> matrix, I'd just use rsync
[04:10] <matrix> hatta: does it store log files of sync sessions? so just in case i would reinstall linux or attach the usb disks to another machine would it still be able to sync or have to recreate those diff/log/files?
[04:11] <hatta> no, it doesn't keep versions
[04:12] <Number7> *groans* I just tried joing python IRC channel and I have to be idenified before they let me on
[04:12] <hatta> rsync is really good at copying a tree from one host to another
[04:12] <hatta> with checksums for verification
[04:12] <lahcen> i read on a post that i should turn on composite, so ii installed it and configured xorg.conf
[04:12] <lahcen> Any Ideas????
[04:12] <Songwind> exit
[04:12] <Songwind> sorry, wrong window
[04:13] <Number7> *shakes head* sorry lahcen
[04:13] <kouran> hello. when i click 'adminstrator mode', for example on monitor settings, all i get is a blank box with the red border around it. how do i get the settngs back..?
[04:14] <ari> hi. i'm having some trouble with installing beryl. could someone help me please !?!
[04:15] <Number7> ari: what's your problem? maybe someone can help
[04:16] <kouran> hello. when i click 'adminstrator mode', for example on monitor settings, all i get is a blank box with the red border around it. how do i display the settngs again..?
[04:16] <lahcen> ari: did you check this post :http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[04:16] <Hirvinen> !ask | ari
[04:16] <ubotu> ari: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:16] <Jucato> !beryl
[04:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <ari> i read a tutorial and i installed it like the tutorial said but when i type beryl in konsole, it gives me some error message and the computer doesn't work anymore
[04:17] <Number7> there ya go :-)
[04:17] <CaptainApathy> ari, what kind of error?
[04:17] <CaptainApathy> er.... yeah... that or ask in #beryl :P
[04:17] <lahcen> ari, paste is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:17] <ari> Failed to open device, checking for nvidia
[04:17] <ari> nvidia present
[04:17] <kouran> can anyone help me? :|
[04:17] <CaptainApathy> another good resource for beryl related questions..
[04:18] <CaptainApathy> kouran, is there an administrator button?
[04:18] <lahcen> Kouran: did it work fine before?
[04:18] <kouran> there is. but like i said, when i click it, no settings come up. yes it worked fine before
[04:19] <kouran> i recently installed beryl. i thought that might be it, but i switched back to kdesktop, and the [roblem persisted
[04:19] <kouran> problem*
[04:19] <ari> lahcen: i havent read this beryl installation wiki. i actually read one in french
[04:19] <CaptainApathy> is there a popup asking for the super user password?
[04:19] <kouran> no
[04:19] <kouran> strangely..
[04:19] <CaptainApathy> hm.... have you exited and then brought it back up?
[04:19] <lahcen> ari: I found that wiki pretty extensive on installing beryl
[04:20] <kouran> thats odd.... it works now :|
[04:20] <kouran> sorry for wasting your time heh
[04:20] <lahcen> kouran: ohhhh, I have the same problem on sabayon when running beryl,
[04:21] <lahcen> kouran: it happens once in a while
[04:21] <ari> well the reason why i read one in french that might not be as complete as one in english is because french is my first language and i dont want to make any stupid mistake becaude i misunderstood something...
[04:21] <KrAmMeR> ok  im going to give it another try
[04:21] <dospro> excuse me, is there anyone who can help me please?
[04:21] <Number7> understandable
[04:21] <Number7> ari
[04:21] <lahcen> ari, your english looks fine from what i see
[04:22] <lahcen> ari, mais je te comprends
[04:22] <kouran> anyone use swat to configure samba? i can get into swat. anyone help?
[04:22] <Number7> dospro: ask away
[04:22] <kouran> cant*
[04:22] <dospro> i have a problem trying to install kubuntu amd64
[04:22] <dospro> i put the DVD in
[04:22] <dospro> then
[04:22] <dospro> a menu appears
[04:23] <ari> it's because i'm making some effort to express myself properly...and i'm not sure i'll understand as well in english most of the computer-related-complicated words
[04:23] <dospro> there i choose start/install kubuntu
[04:23] <dospro> then the kubuntu logo appears
[04:23] <KrAmMeR> it looks like that worked
[04:23] <dospro> and a bar goes and returns
[04:23] <lahcen> very understandable, ari
[04:23] <dospro> it stays like that a big time
[04:24] <dospro> until some error messages appear
[04:24] <dospro> after that
[04:24] <dospro> moving there and that i got into the languaje selection screen
[04:24] <dospro> i mean, i overpassed the errors
[04:24] <Number7> what's the message?
[04:24] <dospro> i dont rememeber
[04:24] <dospro> anyway
[04:24] <KrAmMeR> hmm
[04:25] <dospro> i only rememebr this message
[04:25] <KrAmMeR> it still doesn't like the resolution i putin the xorg.conf file
[04:25] <KrAmMeR> i mean "list"
[04:25] <dospro> dma_expiry_xxxx=0xFF
[04:25] <dospro> that happens with must distros in my pc
[04:25] <KrAmMeR> the x session came back...but nothing in the option to make it a higher resolution
[04:25] <dospro> i cant overpass that error
[04:25] <matrix> which program writes comments directly into my jps instead of storing hidden info files in the same directory?
[04:25] <Number7> ehhh.... what kind of computer do you have?
[04:25] <Number7> like the motherboard, the chipset
[04:25] <dospro> what do you want to know?
[04:26] <dospro> aahh ok
[04:26] <ari> another thing that is quite strange to me. i have a graphic card nvidia geforce4 and some places say (says ?!?) that beryl won't work on my computer bot some other places say that it will...
[04:26] <dospro> its an ASUS motherboard K8N4--E Deluxe
[04:26] <dospro> with an AMD64 cpu 3000+
[04:26] <dospro> SATA HDD
[04:26] <dospro> ATI Radeon x300 PCI express
[04:27] <dospro> waht else do you need? 1024 MB RAM
[04:27] <KrAmMeR> gah now that the x session is reset all those sounds are back
[04:27] <Number7> hmmm... who's the manufactor?
[04:27] <Number7> dell, hp, gateway?
[04:27] <dospro> manufactor? me
[04:27] <dospro> jajaja
[04:28] <Number7> ahhh
[04:28] <KrAmMeR> should it look like this?
[04:28] <KrAmMeR> Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:28] <lahcen> ari: I am not sure whether it will work or not, but i suggest reserching a little more and give it a try!!
[04:28] <KrAmMeR> theres more of a space after modes
[04:29] <dospro> what does this dma_timer_expiry=0xFF really means?
[04:29] <dospro> and well, why do i have to move a lot of things to make kubuntu get into this error instead of the first ones
[04:29] <Number7> dospro: I'ma fraid that goes outside of my knowedge, and since you said this bug happens on alot of distros, I have to assume it's a general problem with GNU Linux
[04:30] <ari> well thanks a lot lahcen. i'll search and if i have some other questions i'll probably come back
[04:30] <Number7> It would help if you can write down the those other error messages
[04:30] <Number7> I would recommened that you file a bug report with...
[04:30] <dx11101> how do you install XGL and Compiz in Kubuntu edgy eft?
[04:31] <Number7> oh... who do we send hardware related bug reports to in ubuntu?
[04:31] <dospro> form my point of view it seems to be, as you said, a general GNU Linux problem but with some SATA hdd
[04:31] <lahcen> on va etre ici mon ami
[04:31] <lahcen> ari
[04:31] <dospro> because i havent had this problem using other hard drive disks
[04:32] <ari> :) youppi, j'ai un alli !!!
[04:32] <dospro> jajaja i dont know
[04:33] <intelikey> Sorry, user $USER may not run sudo on $LOCALHOST
[04:33] <dospro> well, anyway i will see what i can do
[04:33] <lahcen> d'acord ari, je dois y aller maintenent
[04:33] <dospro> if you ever want to report a bug, try this one
[04:33] <dospro> jajaja
[04:33] <lahcen> au revoir, ari
[04:33] <Number7> dospro: yeah, I would write down the error messages, make a list of your hardware,a nd file a bug report with ubuntu team
[04:34] <dospro> beacuse searching over google i have seen some others have the same problem
[04:34] <ari> a bientot j'espere !!!
[04:34] <dospro> yep, thanks
[04:34] <lahcen> a bientot
[04:34] <Number7> glad I could be of some help
[04:35] <Number7> try this
[04:35] <Number7> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[04:35] <intelikey> just out of curiosity what was the error ?
[04:35] <Number7> they have an IRC channel #ubuntu-bugs
[04:36] <dospro> that may help
[04:36] <ari> i'm gonna have to leave, thanks a lot to you !!!
[04:36] <ari> bye
[04:37] <intelikey> dospro just out of curiosity what was the error ?
[04:38] <dospro> dma_timer_expiry=0xff
[04:38] <dospro> thats the only thing i remember of the messege
[04:38] <dospro> and well
[04:38] <dospro> its not just a normal error message
[04:38] <dospro> this message repeats and repeats
[04:38] <ExpositionOfEvil> HEY!
[04:38] <dospro> until
[04:38] <dospro> you turn the PC off
[04:39] <intelikey> it's trying to force dma on some deivce that is not accepting it...
[04:39] <intelikey> 0xff would be.....   maybe audio chip ?
[04:39] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone here programs in c++?? If so I wondering how do I use "#include ..."
[04:40] <dospro> #include is just that... tu include something
[04:40] <dospro> audio chip?
[04:40] <ExpositionOfEvil> hmm
[04:40] <dospro> waht relation could it be
[04:41] <intelikey> # is not a comment in c++ ?     i'm not a coder
[04:41] <dospro> for me it has more relation to the hard drive disk
[04:41] <Number7> include what?
[04:41] <Jucato> ExpositionOfEvil: ##c++ please or #ubuntu-programming
[04:41] <ExpositionOfEvil> #include <blah.h>
[04:41] <ExpositionOfEvil> awesome thanks
[04:41] <ExpositionOfEvil> jucato
[04:41] <dospro> maybe beacuase just before the message it says somethink like sda1
[04:41] <Number7> yeah I answer your question in ubuntu-programming jucato
[04:42] <intelikey> dospro i'm only guessing about the audio device.   maybe something else, i was trying to recall the hardware nomination
[04:42] <Jucato> intelikey: no. # as a single-line comment indicator is sh only :)
[04:42] <dospro> ExpositionOfEvil if you want to know about C++ you can ask me
[04:42] <intelikey> Jucato and perl and python and...
[04:43] <Jucato> intelikey: ok... don't know python or perl :)
[04:43] <dospro> for comments in C++ we use // od /*...*/
[04:44] <intelikey> yes i remember seeing /* comments no that you mention it */
[04:45] <Jucato> C++ uses both // and /* */. C can only use /* */
[04:45] <Jucato> anyway...
[04:46] <dospro> yep thats it
[04:46] <dospro> whatever
[04:47] <dospro> well, im going to try to install kubuntu amd64 in another hdd which doenst have this problem... at least meanwhile
[04:48] <intelikey> dospro 0xff should be pcmcia hardware
[04:49] <dospro> but at the beggining i desactivate pcmcia hardware
[04:49] <dospro> at least i think i do
[04:49] <intelikey> well the search i ran on the addressing came back to pcmcia
[04:50] <intelikey> feel free to dubble check me on that
[04:50] <kouran> how do i make the adept notifier start...? i accidently clicked 'dont start'...
[04:51] <dospro> jaja
[04:51] <dospro> by the way
[04:51] <jack_> hi whats the easiest way to install a java plugin and all its dependencies for firefox?
[04:51] <dospro> maybe this has no solution but im going to ask anyway
[04:52] <dospro> jack_ try using the repositories for firefox plugins
[04:52] <dospro> to install java just go to sun web and follow the instructions
[04:52] <seven11> what file browser are you gays using. i just got dolphin and i like it better than konqueror
[04:52] <intelikey> mc
[04:52] <dospro> for me the best is Firefox
[04:52] <dospro> any way i was with the question
[04:52] <kouran> how do i make the adept notifier start...? i accidently clicked 'dont start'...
[04:52] <seven11> intelikey: :)
[04:53] <intelikey> you asked
[04:53] <intelikey> :)
[04:53] <dospro> in a kubuntu distro i had in another hdd an accident happened
[04:53] <jack_> dospro do you mean search for it in e.g. synaptic? i did download the rpm, but there is a lot of missing dependencies, thats why i ask
[04:53] <dospro> i dont know why but itried to uninstall gcc-4.0 to isntall gcc-2.4
[04:54] <intelikey> 3.4 ?
[04:54] <dospro> jack_: no, i mean the kubuntu package administrator
[04:54] <dospro> yep, you know programmers crazyness
[04:54] <dospro> anywayt
[04:54] <dospro> i dont know why MOST if not all of the packages uninstalled
[04:55] <dospro> i mean, firefox, konqueror, everything
[04:55] <dospro> kate, nano, vi, etc etc
[04:55] <dospro> i dont know why everything uninstalled
[04:55] <dospro> it was kindo FRUSTRATING
[04:56] <jack_> dospro: sorry i really dont know, so like sourceforge?where can i find which i need etc?
[04:56] <guest__> hi
[04:56] <Skuller> yay..guys i figured out why the Ktorrent was crashin every 2 hours....the 'infowidget' plugin was the crook...disabling it makes everything run sweet
[04:57] <dospro> jack_: the only helpfull thing i can tell you is to go to Sun's web page and follow the instructions....wait, let me put the link
[04:57] <guest__> anybo
[04:58] <dospro> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[04:58] <guest__> plz put it here
[04:58] <jack_> ok, do you know how i could get such an x button that clears the address bar like in konqueror?
[04:59] <dospro> well, talking about my frustatin problem, is there any way to go back with my other kubuntu sistem?
[04:59] <intelikey>    http://pastebin.ca/392872  dospro
[05:00] <jack_> thx dospro
[05:00] <dospro> whats that for?
[05:00] <dospro> your welcom
[05:00] <intelikey> dospro if it will boot just run   sudo apt-get isntall *ubuntu-desktop   < where * can be x e or k  if you don't want venella ubuntu-destkop
[05:01] <intelikey> dospro that was a test to see what might depend on gcc   nothing does by default really.
[05:01] <jack_> dospro: thanks i have been there, so i really need to install all the dependencies manually
[05:01] <dospro> well, guees what, even apt-get got uninstalled
[05:01] <dospro> that may be an option
[05:02] <dospro> jack_: sorry i couldn't help you more
[05:02] <intelikey> dospro you must have selected something besides gcc*   libc6 maybe  :)
[05:02] <jack_> dospro: no thats cool thanks
[05:03] <dospro> maybe
[05:03] <dospro> maybe by trying to uninstall gcc 4-0 some other packages were also put to uninstall
[05:03] <intelikey> zlib1g maybe.   both of those will pretty much take the whole system with them.
[05:04] <dospro> i remember seeing lot of packages with the "Remove" thing
[05:04] <intelikey> should have only been three
[05:04] <dospro> and i thought it was the entire gcc package so i could install the new one
[05:04] <intelikey> hehhe you'll not soon repete that mistake   (:
[05:05] <intelikey> that's one reason i never use a gui package manager...
[05:05] <kouran> gah i hate the nvidia settings applet..
[05:05] <intelikey> of course another reason is because i'm never in a gui...
[05:06] <dospro> jajajajajaja
[05:06] <dospro> you always use a console?
[05:06] <intelikey> yeah
[05:07] <bill57785> ok, I'm having some trouble
[05:07] <intelikey> well.  loosely defined "alwasys" i do,   as long as that doesn't include the very infrequent game now and then.
[05:07] <bill57785> my linux partition ran out of space while I was using it, and when I tried to delete something off of the hard drive, Kubuntu froze up
[05:08] <Number7> hmm..
[05:08] <dospro> i try to get use to the console, but sometimes i do really like guis
[05:08] <bill57785> I restarted, and then everytime I tried to log in, it would reload the log in screen
[05:08] <intelikey> cause you were trying to move it to trash not actual delete
[05:08] <kouran> sounds like you have totally zero space left for the os to do anything
[05:08] <bill57785> well anyways, I tried everything, and for some reason even recovery mode wouldn't work
[05:08] <intelikey> drop to a console and rm your trash can
[05:09] <dospro> and when i started with linux  i remember always using apt-get, apt-file, etc but when i discover the package administrator...
[05:09] <bill57785> so I went into Windows, and added some space to the partition
[05:09] <dospro> i will never trust itagain
[05:09] <intelikey> eeeek
[05:09] <jack_> dospro: should i install it to /usr/local/bin?
[05:09] <bill57785> now I get an error 17 with grub (which means it can't load the partition)....I've read that if you repartition with linux, it will fix it
[05:09] <jack_> dospro: the java
[05:09] <Skuller> kouran: how to access the nvidia settings applet?
[05:10] <bill57785> so I'm running off of a DSL LiveCD because my Ubuntu LiveCd is at school
[05:10] <intelikey> bill57785 looks to me like you are in for a reload.
[05:10] <dospro> jack: yep, thats a good option
[05:10] <dospro> no wait
[05:10] <dospro> jack: i think that you shopuld install it on /usr/bin
[05:11] <dospro> well, at least that is more global
[05:11] <kouran> how do you check out much space is left on your disks? kde..
[05:11] <bill57785> well I know once I get my Ubuntu LiveCD I can fix it....but I've been sick, and I might not be going to school tomorrow
[05:11] <kouran> like in wondows, my computer... whats the comparable thing in kde?
[05:11] <intelikey> kouran konsole df
[05:12] <kouran> thanks. is there a gui version it? :P
[05:12] <intelikey> there is some gui pointy clicky thingy   but i don't know whet it is
[05:12] <intelikey> you may want   df -h
[05:12] <intelikey> -h == human readable
[05:12] <kouran> i figured as much hehe
[05:13] <kouran> anyone else? is there a gui way of checking diskspace?
[05:13] <intelikey> hey   -h means help on some things..
[05:13] <dospro> is kubuntu amd64 as buggy as it is said?
[05:13] <dospro> or is it just a bad rumor?
[05:13] <kouran> true, but when i saw the sizes in MB then i realised :P
[05:14] <Skuller> kouran: can you please tell me how to access the nvidia settings applet?
[05:14] <intelikey> it's like the old tobacco.    half and half
[05:14] <jack_> dospro: thanks
[05:14] <dx11101> can someone please help me get compiz working
[05:14] <dospro> jack: hope it was usefull
[05:14] <kouran> skuller, you've got the drivers installed right?
[05:14] <dospro> jajajaj
[05:14] <Skuller> yea
[05:14] <dospro> really half and half?
[05:15] <intelikey> !compiz
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:15] <dospro> hope i can "survive"
[05:15] <kouran> and its not in system > nvidia settings?
[05:15] <intelikey> not supported here really.   use  #ubuntu-effects
[05:15] <Skuller> kouran: no
[05:15] <dospro> ok
[05:15] <kouran> in the console, type nvidia-settings
[05:15] <dospro> i see there are a lot of channels
[05:16] <Skuller> kouran: nice..got it thanx
[05:16] <dospro> well, thanks for the help
[05:16] <kouran> cheers man
[05:16] <dospro> dont leave jack alone
[05:16] <dospro> i must go
[05:16] <intelikey> console != konsole/terminal/xterm/aterm/eterm/mterm
[05:16] <dospro> see ya
[05:17] <intelikey> ooops  or rcvt
[05:17] <intelikey> rxvt
[05:17] <Skuller> why is my AGP running at 4X according to nvidia settings when it should be 8X
[05:17] <kouran> anyone?! is there a gui way to check disk space? :P
[05:17] <Skuller> and how can i change that?
[05:17] <kouran> skuller, in your bios
[05:17] <kouran> you can change it
[05:17] <kouran> when you turn on your comp, press delete, or whatever it is to enter the bios
[05:17] <Skuller> kouran: no in my bios is AUTO....windows detects at full 8x
[05:17] <kouran> thats strange then
[05:18] <Skuller> yea it sure is
[05:18] <intelikey> besides the fact that linux doesn't relie very heavily on BIOS anyway
[05:18] <kouran> what card you got?
[05:19] <Skuller> kouran: FX 5700 VE
[05:19] <kouran> you might do well to check out nvidia's support forum
[05:19] <kouran> hey um, i dont use irc much, when text comes up in red, im assuming, its going to just me, how do i do that..?
[05:20] <Skuller> kouran: i guess i'll leave it for now until i need to use that extra 4X of graphics horsepower
[05:20] <Skuller> no wait...will this improve my beryl performance in kubuntu?....
[05:20] <kouran> yep im guessing it would
[05:20] <Skuller> k m on it
[05:20] <Moltov> Scuse, Ive got a computer that already has kubuntu on it im trying to set up with windows also on it, and from what ive herd(and so far seen...) windows needs to be on hd1, but i cant seem to figure out how to do this, anyone have a clue?
[05:21] <kouran> windows doesnt need to be on the primary hard disk. minje isnt.
[05:21] <intelikey> oh hd1 ?   where is hd1 ?
[05:21] <kouran> i think he means hda1 :P
[05:21] <intelikey> oh
[05:21] <Moltov> Kouran: how did you get it to boot?... I just get an error >.>
[05:22] <kouran> are you using a linux bootloader?
[05:22] <PaloDeQueso> anyone having trouble debugging with kdevelop3.4?
[05:22] <Moltov> Kouran: and thats AFTER manualy entering its data into the list... before it didnt even see it
[05:22] <intelikey> you tell the boot loader to make it 0x80 and boot it
[05:22] <Moltov> Kouran: Grub. ^.^
[05:22] <kouran> ah me too... hmm...
[05:22] <Moltov> Kouran: Hm, what windows do you have alongside?
[05:23] <kouran> xp
[05:23] <Moltov> Kouran: Hm. Mines 2k pro... But should essentialy require the identical config...
[05:24] <kouran> yeah basically. umm
[05:24] <kouran> grub is on the MBR of hda1 right?
[05:24] <Moltov> Kouran: Definately.
[05:25] <intelikey> at one time i had windows 3.1 95 98 ME XP Linux redhat9.0 mandrake 9.0 & 10.0 and ubuntu hoary all on this box....    hehhe now it has two nix and win 95
[05:25] <kouran> i have no idea what the problem is :|
[05:25] <kouran> have you mapped win2k properly?
[05:25] <Moltov> Kouran: *blinks questioningly*
[05:25] <kouran> i know that sometimes you need to tell grub where the partition it
[05:25] <kouran> is*
[05:25] <Moltov> Kouran: How would i do this? >.<
[05:26] <kouran> im trying to think lol. i havent done it since i had suse.
[05:26] <kouran> kubuntu detected windows perfectly for me...
[05:26] <Moltov> Kouran: Well. I ran sudo update-grub, and it didnt detect it.
[05:27] <Skuller> kouran: no luck with the 4x agp bus setting in kubun...:(
[05:27] <imokruok> hello can someone help me
[05:27] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l ;cat /boot/grub/devices*     and compare.  then add the aproperate listing in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:27] <intelikey> or in /etc/lilo.conf is you use lilo
[05:28] <imokruok> I tried installing the latest nvidia drivers and x will not startanymore
[05:28] <imokruok> i am getting an error
[05:28] <intelikey> well i'm went.
[05:29] <imokruok> anyone feel like helping me?
[05:29] <Thehound666> I need some myself. Hopefully same issue
[05:30] <kouran> whats your problem man?
[05:30] <imokruok> :)
[05:30] <Thehound666> I get prompted to update to Feisty but it keeps failing out
[05:30] <Thehound666> 301 error
[05:30] <imokruok> x fails to start and throws an error
[05:30] <kouran> feisty isnt even in beta yet :|
[05:30] <imokruok> x fails to start and throws an error
[05:30] <imokruok> the nvidiathe nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9755 please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version
[05:30] <Thehound666> so why does adept want to update me?
[05:31] <kouran> so you've got edgy? and its asking to update to feisty?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Thehound666,  its a work in progress
[05:31] <Dr_willis> i say dont update yet. :) keep saying no
[05:31] <Thehound666> exactly
[05:31] <Thehound666> every time the updater runs
[05:31] <Dr_willis> they are working on a custome updateer tool
[05:31] <kouran> i dont get that.. do you have unstable repos?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> and No it dont work for me either.
[05:31] <Thehound666> only the moblock ones
[05:31] <Thehound666> from sourceforge
[05:32] <Dr_willis> its not getting the some security updates and the updater- is supossed to comment out the 'unofficial' repos also.
[05:32] <strange_ghost> How do I manage themes (and is  this possible) under KDE?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !themes
[05:32] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:32] <kouran> can anyone get dual displays working properly?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of different kinds of 'themes'
[05:32] <kouran> thats a lot of links :P
[05:32] <Dr_willis> kouran,  i have in the past.
[05:32] <Thehound666> so you get this mysterious non-working updater
[05:32] <imokruok> ......
[05:32] <Thehound666> guess just ride it out
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Thehound666,  its under going testing. :) and so far its failed the test
[05:33] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: erm... Desktop themes? Window manager themes? Combinations  of widget sets and window decoration coloring/styles?
[05:33] <jack_> dospro: it tells me to get this, but there is a lot of choice and not exactly the glibs: glibc >= 2.1.2-11 is needed by jre-1.5.0_11-fcs
[05:33] <Dr_willis> strange_ghost,  yep. each one is managed a littel differently
[05:34] <Dr_willis> i guess one could say a kde theme ' is a group of settinngs that is composed of what 'widgets, window decor, icon set, and colors' to use.
[05:34] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: right. So my question I guess is whether there is any theme manager, something that would assign a configuration of such presets
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Theres the KDE theme manager tool :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> it should be in the menus somewhere
[05:35] <jack_> dospro: it also says:/bin/sh is needed by jre-1.5.0_11-fcs.i586, should i create that directory then?
[05:35] <Thehound666> only reason I accepted the update at all is I thought Edgy would quit being supported after this anyways
[05:35] <Thehound666> thanks for the info
[05:35] <kouran> i use emerald :D
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Thehound666,  i doubt if it will 'quit' being supported for some time.
[05:35] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: erm... do you remember what it's called by any chance? I found each component separately but I am not a UI guy, I like complete sets
[05:35] <Dr_willis> strange_ghost,  its under appearance -> somthing i belive. Not in kde at the moment.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i always add the settings  kicker applet to make settings easier to get to
[05:37] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: Well, I found every individual component under appearance, but not themes
[05:37] <jake__> how do you install themes on kde? i mean do i need another app? sorry im new to linux
[05:37] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: I wonder if it can be installed
[05:37] <strange_ghost> jake__: I am actually asking the same question right now :)
[05:37] <alakhia> Can I remove the lvm2 package? Or is it actually used by anything?
[05:38] <jake__> oh ;-), i hope someone answers
[05:38] <strange_ghost> jake__: And so far we got as far as "there seems to maybe have been something approximately like what you may be want"
[05:38] <Dr_willis> strange_ghost,  a 'theme' is  just a settings file that tells what individual compontants to use.. I rarely mess with the actual 'theme' files.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> I set up the compnentants that i perfer.
[05:39] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: I hear you and I respect that but I prefer using something somebody elso composed, probably with better ui sence than mine ;)
[05:39] <strange_ghost> brb
[05:40] <Dr_willis> strange_ghost,  i actually rarely see any real 'theme' files.. normally say  for the bubba theme. the guy just makes a bubbawidget set and bubbawindowdecoration thats ment to work together
[05:40] <Dr_willis> check out kde-look.org I guess for examples.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> and those bot urls earlier
[05:42] <strange_ghost> Dr_willis: thanks, will do
[05:42] <jake__> Dr_willis: how do i install the themes that ive downloaded from kde-look.org
[05:43] <Dr_willis> kde is just a little confusing i guess in how it handles themes
[05:43] <Dr_willis> jake__,  it depends on exactly WHAT it was you downloaded.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> and the different 'packages' from that site can have widely varing install  methods
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !theme
[05:43] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:43] <strange_ghost> jake__: I think kde-look usually has instructions...
[05:43] <jake__> Dr_willis: for exampl tar.gzip files?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org is such a badly done site in many ways
[05:44] <Dr_willis> jake__,  uncompress it and read/see whts in there.. it COULD have any of a dozen different things to do.
[05:44] <Minataku> Hey, Dr_willis
[05:44] <Dr_willis> rember that a lot of kde theme 'parts' have to be compiled.
[05:44] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Check it out, I made some screencaps of something cool
[05:44] <Minataku> :D
[05:45] <teufel_> anybody know anything about installing quak3 on kubuntu or rather running the file ioquake.i386
[05:45] <teufel_> yeah quak3
[05:45] <teufel_> !ioquake.i386
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ioquake.i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Hasrat_USA> teufel_: is that free?
[05:46] <teufel_> yea
[05:46] <Dr_willis> ioquake?
[05:46] <teufel_> it says so
[05:46] <Skuller> is it a FPS?
[05:46] <teufel_> yea
[05:46] <Hasrat_USA> did you find it in Quake's official site?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> last i looked quake3 code was 'gpl' but the data files were NOT.
[05:46] <Skuller> u tried unreal tournament?
[05:46] <teufel_> installer for open arena
[05:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <teufel_> i didnt read into it
[05:46] <teufel_> is unreal free
[05:46] <neptunepink> Ah! RSIBreak is vicious! :O
[05:46] <Hasrat_USA> no
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Unreal is not free
[05:47] <Skuller> no
[05:47] <Skuller> teufel_: no
[05:47] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:47] <Dr_willis> RTCW:ET is free download. :) as is "savage"
[05:47] <teufel_> well how would i run the file ioquake3.i386
[05:47] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Cool screencaps or what? :D
[05:47] <Dr_willis> both worth getting
[05:47] <Skuller> but if you run it on Mzoft then just copy the installation folder to linux n   run with tine
[05:47] <Skuller> wine*
[05:48] <teufel_> wine
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  you sicko. :)
[05:48] <teufel_> your saying i need wine
[05:48] <Minataku> Dr_willis: rofl
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i found some IBM OS/2 floppies the other day
[05:48] <Skuller> teufel_: if you want to play UT
[05:48] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ooooh, cool
[05:48] <teufel_> ohh
[05:49] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Those screenshots came direct from my Quadra 650
[05:49] <teufel_> well i just need to know how to run ioquake3.i386 file
[05:49] <Minataku> Pretzel+Shift+3 takes a screenshot in A/UX
[05:49] <Dr_willis> ./ioquakewhatever.i386
[05:49] <jake__> Dr_willis: for example ive downloaded the file and extracted it, how can i install it? do i need commands?
[05:49] <teufel_> i tried that
[05:50] <Dr_willis> jake__,  yep  - ypou proberly need to do several commands..  what commands.. depends on exactly WHAT it is you downloaded.. and how the guy managed/packaged it...
[05:50] <Minataku> chmod it
[05:50] <Dr_willis> jake__,  there is no ONE way to do it.
[05:50] <teufel_> chmod +x yeah
[05:50] <teufel_> i did that
[05:50] <Minataku> chmod u+x ioquake3.i386
[05:50] <Dr_willis> jake__,  it all depends on the packageer and what you got.
[05:50] <teufel_> not that
[05:50] <ForgeAus> !stuffit
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuffit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[05:50] <teufel_> what does u+x do
[05:51] <Minataku> User + eXecute
[05:51] <Hasrat_USA> i can't login to my library's account using either mozilla or opera. after putting in login ID and password, it says "there is a problem with the server. please try again later." but i have been trying to get in for the past 20 minutes. what's going on?
[05:51] <jake__> Dr_willis: lol, it took a lot of time just to install a theme? sounds complicated
[05:51] <Minataku> The three are ugo, User Group Otherss
[05:51] <Dr_willis> jake__,  you asked... a 'THEME' is not a set of just pictures/images.. theres a lot of things that go into a 'theme'
[05:52] <Dr_willis> jake__,  the window decorations for example are normally compiled code. that can do a lot of different things.. and allow ultimate flexability.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> jake__,  window dedoration is just one 'part' of a theme.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> ive even seen icon sets that have 'installer scripts' for them included in the packages.
[05:53] <Jucato> !changethemes
[05:53] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:54] <jake__> Dr_willis: for example a sh. file?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> jake__,  could be.. you see all sorts of wacky things with some of the files at kde-look.org
[06:00] <Moltov>  Excuse me... anyone here any good at kicking grub so itll boot a w2k install?... I have kubuntu(with stuf i dont want to lose...) On hda1, and w2k on hda3... And so far every random guide ive found hasnt worked, though ive gotten an interesting miscillany of errors >.> *sighs*
[06:01] <Dr_willis> w2k may need the drives 'swapped' in order for it to 'think' its booting from the C drive..
[06:01] <Moltov> How would i go about doing that?
[06:01] <Moltov> I'd be quite glad to do so...
[06:01] <Dr_willis> theres some grub options.. i aint used them in ages...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> somthing to do with 0x82 and 0x83
[06:02] <Moltov> But i cant find any directions to do such... Anywhere.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> BUT wait a sec...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> how did ya get w2k on  hda3 ?
[06:02] <Minataku> You might need to set it's partition bootable
[06:02] <Dr_willis> that would be like windows E: drive or similer.
[06:02] <Minataku> Windows might be choking because of thaat
[06:02] <Moltov> Minataku: its marked...
[06:02] <Minataku> I think my keyboard is going
[06:03] <Moltov> Dr_Willis: I have NO idea...
[06:03] <Moltov> Dr_Willis: I found something that abriviated what the meaning of the different hdaX are, and hda3 and hda4 arnt on it...
[06:03] <Minataku> hda3 is third partition, first device on first IDE channel
[06:04] <Moltov> Dr?Willis: According to it... extended partitions are supposed to be 5+... and primary is hda1...
[06:04] <Minataku> s/\,/\ of/
[06:04] <Minataku> Correct
[06:04] <Moltov> But anyway.
[06:04] <Minataku> hd << IDE device
[06:04] <Minataku> a << Channel 0 Device 0
[06:04] <Moltov> yes yes...
[06:04] <Minataku> 3 << Third partition table entry
[06:05] <Minataku> I know there's some kind of chainloading thing GRUB has to do
[06:05] <Moltov> *shrugs* but stareing at that weirdly isnt the point. the point is getting w2k to boot without wiping my shiny working kubuntu install.
[06:05] <Minataku> IIUC it basically does nothing and just passes control to NTLDR
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Moltov,  thats the kicker.. if it was on hdb then the 0x82 stuff swapping is what ya need. Ive got no idea bout it being on hda3/4
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I dont even see how ya could get it installed that way. windows used to hate to not be on the first partition.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> you could 'cheat' and try to boot the partition with vmware inside linux
[06:06] <Minataku> Well
[06:06] <Minataku> Hm
[06:06] <Moltov> Dr_Willis: Oh, it still hates not being on the first partition... It just installs fine, just doesnt boot... >.>
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Moltov,  heh heh :)
[06:06] <Moltov> Dr_Willis: Sorry, my systems too old and slow for vmware to be usefull
[06:07] <Minataku> Moltov: Are you using the correct GRUB mapping?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> ive had to fight with windows being on a different drive.. but not partition.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> grub may be able to handle it.. i just aint messed with it much lately
[06:07] <Minataku> I believe that your Windows partiton in hda3 would be hd0,2 in GRUB
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep. that should be correct
[06:07] <Minataku> Since GRUB counts from 0 while Linux counts from 1
[06:07] <Dr_willis> well its bed time for me. night all
[06:07] <Moltov> Minataku: As in? Ive gone through so many things ive been told to do or read.... yeah, its hd0,2
[06:08] <Moltov> Minataku: Ive had that right since my FIRST attempt.
[06:09] <Minataku> Moltov: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[06:10] <Minataku> Try that, add EVERY LINE in the relevant section, there are 3
[06:10] <Minataku> After those three is just "boot"
[06:11] <neptunepink> net| |split
[06:11] <Jucato> :)
[06:11] <Minataku> Hey, Jucato
[06:11] <Jucato> hi Minataku
[06:11] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << LQQK :D
[06:14] <thianpa> How do i mount ntfs in Kubuntu ?
[06:14] <Jucato> !ntfs | thianpa
[06:14] <ubotu> thianpa: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:16] <Minataku> genii!!! :D:D:DD:D:D
[06:16] <Minataku> Look, genii, look >> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ :D:D:D
[06:16] <iamsam9895> How can I get SDL, SDL_ttf and SDL_mixer libraries installed?
[06:16] <genii> Minataku Let me get some coffe first ROFL I just got in
[06:16] <Minataku> lol, k ^^
[06:17] <Moltov> Minataku: Gets stuck on "Starting up ..." with just the basics... but theres some stuf in the os-spesific issues section... which ill give a try now heh
[06:17] <SolidSource> there has to be a way around having to reinstall video drivers when yoiu get a new kernel
[06:17] <Minataku> Moltov: Coo, tell me how it works out for you
[06:18] <genii> Minataku This is the newest stuff you got the other day?
[06:18] <Minataku> genii: Nah, I just took these screenshots
[06:18] <Minataku> Cool, eh?
[06:18] <genii> Minataku :)
[06:18] <Minataku> Straight from my Quadra 650
[06:18] <iamsam9895> Anybody help me install SDL, SDL_ttf and SDL_mixer libraries?
[06:19] <genii> Minataku Have you tried putting another OS on it yet?
[06:19] <Minataku> If you press Pretzel+Shift+3 A/UX will take a screenshot for you
[06:19] <stdin> iamsam9895: libsdl1.2, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 and ibsdl-mixer1.2 (your version numbers may vary)
[06:19] <iamsam9895> In apt-get?
[06:20] <Minataku> They're in PICT/QuickDraw format with a 512 byte AppleSingle header, I converted them to PNG on Piyoko
[06:20] <Minataku> genii: Why would I when I have A/UX on it? :D
[06:20] <stdin> apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, adept, whatever you want to use
[06:20] <thianpa> !unmount
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <SolidSource> !umount
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <genii> Minataku LOL the tinkering gene at work of course
[06:20] <Minataku> genii: I'm a Unix fanatic
[06:20] <lakhia> !mount
[06:20] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:20] <SolidSource> hmm
[06:20] <Minataku> lol
[06:21] <cjsteltz> can someone tell me how  I can print 3 slider per page in Open Office Impress
[06:22] <Moltov> Minataku: Infortunately... It still gets stuck on "Starting up ..."
[06:23] <Minataku> Moltov: Weird
[06:23] <Minataku> Maybe you Windows install is hosed
[06:23] <Minataku> *your
[06:24] <Moltov> That would be odd, considering its complealty freash.
[06:24] <SolidSource> windows is screwed from the time you pick up the disc
[06:24] <iamsam9895> You're screwed from the time you pick up the disk.
[06:24] <Moltov> Granted, but this IS w2k pro, the closest to stable thing theyve ever made.
[06:24] <wheatie> burn..
[06:24] <SolidSource> that was a given
[06:25] <iamsam9895> I haven't tried pro, but yeah, 2K was OK
[06:25] <cjsteltz> can someone tell me how  I can print 3 slider per page in Open Office Impress
[06:26] <Moltov> *sighs*
[06:26] <Moltov> Well, damnit, seems ill have to wipe my kubuntu for now >.< and reinstall it after...
[06:26] <genii> Moltov I'm on my w2kpro box right now :) (My linux laptop is at work)
[06:26] <Moltov> ^.^
[06:27] <iamsam9895> Arg.
[06:27] <iamsam9895> I can't see what is being written
[06:27] <iamsam9895> Screen size went wacko
[06:27] <Moltov> Well, i know how to presurve some files... *fires up gparted*
[06:27] <iamsam9895> I can't see answers until they reach the top of the page.
[06:27] <iamsam9895> I can only see the top half of the irc window.
[06:28] <neptunepink> iamsam9895: what client are you using?
[06:28] <iamsam9895> This sucks.
[06:28] <Moltov> Not that he can hear me... but i used to have that problem with a chat box in openrpg before i updated wxpython every now and then....
[06:29] <neptunepink> he he.... let's talk behind his back!
[06:29] <morla> somebody
[06:29] <Moltov> He will hear us eventualy yknow.
[06:29] <morla> oops
[06:29] <neptunepink> iamsam9895 is so fat!
[06:29] <iamsam9895> neptunepink Gaim
[06:29] <iamsam9895> I can here you now.
[06:29] <Moltov> ^.^ hehe
[06:29] <neptunepink> lol
[06:29] <neptunepink> O: )
[06:29] <iamsam9895> I SEE YOU
[06:29] <iamsam9895> Moltov is right
[06:30] <iamsam9895> I HEARD THAT NEPTUNE!
[06:30] <Minataku> lol
[06:30] <morla> can somebody give me a hand at kernel configuring, concerning framebuffer?
[06:30] <iamsam9895> Well, control alt backspace time
[06:32] <iamsam9895> Grr.
[06:32] <calcmandan> anyone good at using gimp?
[06:32] <Minataku> iamsam9895: Next time use xrandr
[06:33] <iamsam9895> Hmm?
[06:33] <iamsam9895> What is that?
[06:33] <Minataku> !xrandr | iamsam9895
[06:33] <ubotu> iamsam9895: xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:33] <iamsam9895> I couldn't see anything.
[06:33] <iamsam9895> My mouse quit working on me.
[06:33] <Minataku> Memorize the command you need exactly
[06:34] <Minataku> So if it happens again you can run it blind
[06:34] <iamsam9895> But what happened was my program "half" started.
[06:34] <iamsam9895> It resized for resolution, then died on me.
[06:34] <Minataku> Started running then hung?
[06:34] <Minataku> Ah
[06:34] <Moltov> Minataku: Basicaly, Windows 2k and xp, HATE to be the non-primary partition on hda... More than anything elce...
[06:35] <Minataku> Yeah, if it crashes out completely then you can use xrandr to recover if you can exec it somehow
[06:35] <khirr> how can i write on my nfs disk?
[06:35] <Minataku> If it was an SDL app that went tits up then you're pretty well screwed, SDL is a... er... female dog
[06:35] <iamsam9895> Moltov: Really?
[06:35] <iamsam9895> That would explain a lot.
[06:36] <khirr> uhmm
[06:36] <Moltov> Iamsam9895: Yeah... Its possible to work around, but very hard to do from what ive read...
[06:36] <khirr> how can i save my information on my ntfs partition?
[06:36] <iamsam9895> /exec google frets on fire
[06:36] <iamsam9895> ...
[06:36] <iamsam9895> Fucking Gaim.
[06:36] <Moltov> Iamsam9895: Its even happier on hdb non-primary partitions... -.-
[06:36] <iamsam9895> brb.
[06:36] <iamsam9895> Konqueror is better
[06:37] <iamsam9895_> I meant konversation.
[06:37] <iamsam9895_> WTF is that underscore?
[06:37] <iamsam9895_> Bah
[06:38] <Moltov> Iamsam9895: your original nickname didnt clear from the server, thats your secondary
[06:38] <nixternal> iamsam9895_: could you please watch the language. Thanks!
[06:38] <iamsam9895_> Grr.
[06:38] <ExpositionOfEvil> bummers
[06:38] <iamsam9895_> How do I  ghost it?
[06:38] <teufel_> ioquake worked 75 meg
[06:38] <teufel_> multiplayer
[06:38] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor?
[06:38] <iamsam9895_> How do I boot my name off the other client?
[06:39] <Moltov> Yknow, watching a p3-800, on an ancient 7200rpm hdd, move almost its entire contense around, is kinda like watching paint dry... that is, paint that does dry.
[06:40] <Moltov> Though i think ive seen paint dry faster.
[06:40] <iamsam9895> HAHAHA
[06:40] <iamsam9895> I win.
[06:40] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor?
[06:41] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor?
[06:41] <genii> Moltov Try doing doing a dd on a 250 Gb drive sometime
[06:41] <Moltov> dd?
[06:42] <ExpositionOfEvil> destroy disk
[06:42] <ExpositionOfEvil> haha
[06:42] <Moltov> lol
[06:42] <genii> Moltov Yes, a bit for bit copy
[06:42] <Moltov> *chuckles*
[06:42] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor? process editor?
[06:42] <Moltov> Genii: If i had a 250gb hdd, it would be a 3gb/s sata drive... so...
[06:43] <jay_> how do i change the color of the text that appears on a title in the pager?
[06:43] <iamsam9895> Why does kubuntu hate my ATi card?
[06:43] <Moltov> Cus ati nix drivers are not the best around.
[06:43] <jay_> it
[06:43] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor? process editor?
[06:43] <yknott> hm iamsam9895 what seems to be the prob
[06:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor? process editor?
[06:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> has anyone got a memory editor? process editor?
[06:44] <ExpositionOfEvil> !
[06:44] <genii> iamsam9895: It's ATI's fault. They don't let us know how their stuff works and only hand out binary drivers for linux not all of which are great.
[06:44] <iamsam9895> The open source driver that has "supposed" full compatibility with my card, works great. Except that I don't get any Direct Rendering.
[06:44] <Moltov> Genii: They actualy make drivers for nix at all now?... lol
[06:45] <iamsam9895> It's a 256 MB ATi Radeon 9200
[06:45] <genii> Moltov They have some binaries yeah.
[06:45] <Moltov> Well, thats... something...
[06:45] <Moltov> 9200 eh... Hm.
[06:45] <iamsam9895> But what good is 256 MB without DRI?
[06:45] <ExpositionOfEvil> NVIDIA QUADRO!
[06:45] <iamsam9895> I could just use onboard and get the same results.
[06:45] <ExpositionOfEvil> poons u
[06:46] <iamsam9895> I know, NVidea kicks ATi ass.
[06:46] <Moltov> Iamsam9895: Well... a 9200 desktop inst much better than onboard... but...
[06:46] <nixternal> iamsam9895: tell ATI to open up their drivers so we can use them, then that issue will go away
[06:46] <genii> iamsam9895: Yes, write a polit but firm email to them LOL
[06:46] <Moltov> Eh? Now now. Ati has some of the best laptop gpus around until this last gen, where they still manage energy efficancy by a step.
[06:47] <iamsam9895> Moltov: It is MUCH better than onboard.
[06:47] <Moltov> And their intergrated video cards have had full T&L supported for ages.
[06:47] <Moltov> Unlike... EVERYONE elce.
[06:47] <Moltov> Nv finaly copied that with the 6100...
[06:47] <iamsam9895> Listen, ubuntu likes my video card.
[06:47] <Moltov> ^.^' Heh.
[06:48] <iamsam9895> But I don't understand why kubuntu is any different.
[06:48] <genii> I used to be an ATI purist when I used mainly windoze stuff. But I have lost the faith :) I lean towards nvidia these days
[06:48] <Moltov> Iamsam9895: Prehaps a different driver included? I'D try ripping it out and replacing it with latest
[06:48] <yknott> iamsam9895: ihave the 9600 with 3d accel
[06:48] <Chani> does anyone know why kmail will encrypt but not decrypt email?
[06:49] <Moltov> I have a 9200 mobile... with only 32mb of vram for some stupid reason, Not nearly as closely related to the 9200 desktop unit as youd think...
[06:49] <Moltov> On the computer im on irc with.
[06:49] <Moltov> Its... cute...
[06:49] <genii> Chani You need to have the gpg  public key of the person sending the encrypted email
[06:49] <ExpositionOfEvil> im gonna buy this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883102231
[06:49] <Chani> genii: I do, he was replying to the encrypted mail I sent him.
[06:50] <Chani> kmail just tells me 'bad passphrase' without ever *asking* for a passphrase
[06:50] <Jucato> oh? that's weird...
[06:50] <iamsam9895> Right, my 9200 has 256, a big step from my onboard 16.
[06:50] <Moltov> Ah...
[06:51] <bonbonthejon> iamsam9895: can you tell me what you think: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8216441&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat103700050028&id=1166236072024
[06:51] <Moltov> Though it actualy only uses up to around 64+/- in effect.
[06:51] <genii> Chani see if gpg-agent is running
[06:51] <ExpositionOfEvil> thats a good deal
[06:51] <iamsam9895> bonbonthejon: You should be able to find that cheaper.
[06:51] <Moltov> Bonbonthejon: Not bad, not to interupt, but you can probobly do better.
[06:52] <ExpositionOfEvil> kinda slow thow
[06:52] <iamsam9895> Try overstock.com
[06:52] <ExpositionOfEvil> thow
[06:52] <Chani> genii: I installed it and started it with no luck, but it seems like I don't have a pinentry program installed...
[06:52] <genii> chani Not by ps in this case. Use sudo set | grep GPG_AGENT_INFO
[06:52] <ExpositionOfEvil> 1.6
[06:52] <Moltov> Bonbonthejon: Leme do my quick referance to help you a lil :P
[06:52] <iamsam9895> They have some kickin' computers for pretty cheap.
[06:52] <bonbonthejon> Moltov: I need to get it from BestBuy, gift certificates
[06:52] <iamsam9895> Ahh.
[06:52] <genii> chani Do you get some result like GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-e6JFKt/S.gpg-agent:20501:1
[06:53] <Chani> genii: yeah, although I started gpg-agent from a konsole and ran kontact from that konsole - hoping the var would carry over but not 100% certain
[06:53] <crazy_bus> on the kletters page of kde it says that it has "british english" an well as just english.  How do I access both?
[06:54] <Moltov> Moltov: Ugh, hmm, realy. Well then, ill take a look... you might have missed something :P
[06:54] <Chani> oh oh
[06:54] <Chani> now that I have pinentry-qt installed, a dialog appeared for a fraction of a second as I clicked the email - then vanished
[06:54] <ExpositionOfEvil> If I were you I wouldnt get a labtop but a handheld with a wireless foldable keyboard
[06:54] <Chani> found this in konsole:
[06:54] <Chani> gpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code:  117440523
[06:55] <bonbonthejon> ok, heres a question, intel core 2 duo or amd turion 64-bit X2?
[06:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> intel
[06:55] <yknott> amd
[06:55] <Minataku> Intel
[06:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> INTEL
[06:55] <yknott> ;)
[06:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> screw 64
[06:55] <Minataku> That's 3 for Intel, -1 for AMD
[06:55] <Moltov> Bonbon: Theyre about even.
[06:55] <ExpositionOfEvil> not much compatibility
[06:56] <bonbonthejon> intel 950 or NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150
[06:56] <Moltov> Bonbon: Quite frankly, the intel cpu will have a tiny bit more preformance and battery life... But nothing significant
[06:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> LOL
[06:56] <Moltov> NC, period.
[06:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> that ones hilarious
[06:56] <Moltov> NV
[06:56] <Moltov> PERIOD
[06:56] <Moltov> Go 6150
[06:56] <Moltov> NO argument.
[06:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> Id go with nvidia quadro
[06:56] <Moltov> MILES apart.
[06:56] <ExpositionOfEvil> get liquid cooling system
[06:57] <nixternal> !off-topic
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> what is the benefit of 64-bit, not much now, or will there be more later
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <nixternal> smart bot
[06:57] <ExpositionOfEvil> !good boy
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good boy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> I'm asking this stuff now so when I but the laptop I will have fewer questions
[06:57] <Moltov> !botsnack
[06:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:57] <ExpositionOfEvil> lol
[06:57] <Moltov> Bonbon: Mostly future.
[06:58] <Moltov> Bonbon: Hanfull of current, but both the core duo 2 and turon x2, are 64bit compat
[06:58] <bonbonthejon> Moltov: if i install 32-bit now, do I need to reinstall 64-bit or is there a way to upgrade
[06:58] <bumzo> HEY PEOPLE OF KUBUNTUUUU
[06:58] <carutsu> !cmake
[06:58] <bodhizazen> Hello kubuntu ;)
[06:58] <ubotu> cmake: A cross-platform, open-source make system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.3-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4980 kB, installed size 12028 kB
[06:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone here have a connection faster than t4?
[06:58] <genii> chani Not finding much about that error in web searches
[06:58] <Moltov> Bonbon: Good question.
[06:58] <bumzo> who knows how i can get most if not all plugins for firefox??
[06:58] <Moltov> Bonbon: Sadly, im a hardware wiz, not nix pro.
[06:58] <ExpositionOfEvil> google
[06:59] <nixternal> !kubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <bonbonthejon> Moltov: so core 2 duo is 64-bit?
[06:59] <carutsu> bumzo dont even try
[06:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> NO
[06:59] <bodhizazen> anyone here involved with the kubuntu forums ?
[06:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> 64 bit is completely dif
[06:59] <bumzo> carutsu: excuse me?
[06:59] <Moltov> BonBon: Yes. Though many people seem to be ignorant of it.
[06:59] <Moltov> Bonbon: Core Duo(without the 2) is NOT 64bit compat.
[06:59] <bonbonthejon> ExpositionOfEvil: so dual core 64-bit would be better than dual core 32-bit
[06:59] <bumzo> carutsu: why....what will happen
[06:59] <ExpositionOfEvil> nah
[06:59] <Moltov> Bonbon: Marginaly, latter.
[07:00] <carutsu> bunzo dont try to have all axtensions there are like 1300 or so, some guys had 250 installed and everything was so crappy and slow
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> Moltov: I'm planning long term
[07:00] <carutsu> bunzo, and they overlap on funcitons
[07:00] <bumzo> carutsu: ah ok. then i need the one that enables u to stram clips and flash player
[07:00] <Moltov> Bonbon: Reltively speaking then, itll save you a few cureses to go core duo 2, or turion x2 rather than core duo plain, even if the latter would cost quite a bit less.
[07:00] <carutsu> !flashnon-free
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashnon-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <bonbonthejon> so with the GeForce 6150 I should be able to have accelerated 3d
[07:01] <carutsu> !flash-nonfree
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <ExpositionOfEvil> yes bonbon
[07:01] <carutsu> bumzu is something like that flash-nonfree, look for it in
[07:01] <genii> chani Is there an entry in /etc/X11/Xsession.options    for use-gpg-agent ?
[07:01] <Moltov> Bonbon: The geforce6150, is prehaps the best igp set ever made. Full support for everything, and a littl speed even... Though it IS still low end.
[07:01] <carutsu> bumzo, look for it in Adept
[07:01] <kouran> um, ive got frostwire, and when i launch it i just get a blank screen. i think this is a java thing...
[07:01] <ExpositionOfEvil> no my 6600 OC is the best ever made
[07:01] <kouran> and i cant kill it either
[07:01] <carutsu> is there a way to configure CMake?
[07:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> =)
[07:02] <Moltov> Bonbon: If you could find something prehaps with the geforce 7400 or higher in it, it would be better.
[07:02] <Moltov> Expo: The 6600, isnt an igp.
[07:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> oh
[07:02] <kouran> can someone help me with my java issues?
[07:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> then that is the best
[07:02] <nixternal> hey guys, can you please keep this channel open for support issues, and take the GPU chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else besides in here. Very much appreciated, thanks!
[07:02] <Moltov> Expo: Nivdia pulled off a neigh-merical. Making shared system ram resemble something efficent.
[07:03] <Moltov> Nixternal: Fine fine... were done anyway.
[07:03] <ExpositionOfEvil> O
[07:03] <Silveira_Neto> Nokia 6600 rox
[07:04] <Silveira_Neto> :P
[07:04] <nixternal> Moltov: thanks.
[07:04] <ExpositionOfEvil> lol
[07:04] <genii> Chani: Still here?
[07:04] <ExpositionOfEvil> when does the blender 2.43 get out on ubuntu
[07:04] <bonbonthejon> Moltov: join me in offtopic, I have one more question
[07:05] <Moltov> Bonbon: Fine fine, ill join as RogueThunder... Its my alt
[07:05] <kouran> um, ive got frostwire, and when i launch it i just get a blank screen. i think this is a java thing...
[07:05] <kouran> i got the same problem with netbeans, which is also written in java..
[07:05] <Moltov> Bonbon: Or we could just private chat.
[07:06] <jay_> how do i change the color of the text that appears on a title in the pager?
[07:06] <jack_> hi, i lost the maximize button by accident in kontact, how can i get it back? thank you
[07:06] <stdin> kouran: have you run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" yet?
[07:06] <Cobra_Bubbles> Y HLO THAR!
[07:08] <bonbonthejon> one last question, in NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA), what does the UMA stand for
[07:08] <Chani> genii: sorta here
[07:09] <Moltov> ((Wrong window)
[07:09] <Chani> now I'm back to not even having the dialog show at all
[07:09] <genii> Chani http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/03/msg00226.html has some info on this
[07:09] <genii> Chani May or may not be useful for you, but something maybe to try anyhow
[07:10] <Chani> genii: I think I'm going to try restarting kde next
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> KDE
[07:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> I love it
[07:11] <genii> Chani The guy on this link had exact sam error code as you. Looks like the gpg needs to be started in a certain way and also in the Xsessions file
[07:17] <unix_lappy> howdy genii
[07:18] <genii> unix_lappy: Hello
[07:19] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me to build a mousetrap racer?...i have a competetion in skool for it...:D
[07:19] <Skuller> !topic | Skuller
[07:19] <Skuller> !offtopic | Skuller
[07:19] <unix_lappy> maybe you should consider improving your english skillz before you engage in science.
[07:20] <Skuller> unix_lappy: perhaps you can help me get a head start by specifying exactly which field of english i need to improve upon
[07:20] <Moltov> Though im sure we could make some abomination of science using a small microprocessor with linux installed on it controlling a mousetrap with motors and a chainsaw attached programmed to attack mice... But that might be a bit rediculous.
[07:21] <Skuller> Moltov: now thats what i am talking about. I'll get my local comp guy to start dating this lady carpenter i know
[07:22] <Chani> k, kde is slowly logging out...
[07:22] <Chani> slooooowly
[07:23] <Jucato> looooogging.....
[07:23] <jax> Does anyone here know what codec/plugin I'd need to listen to Monkey's Audio(APE)??...Thanks
[07:23] <yknott> monkey's audio
[07:23] <Chani> oh, tht reminds me, I have weird powersaving issues. every time I reboot, the option to turn off my laptop's monitor after 10 minutes is set to "5 hours" and really is never.
[07:23] <genii> Skuller I know a good way to build one
[07:24] <Chani> also, if I save the powersaving options in admin mode, it fucks up my xorg.conf
[07:24] <iamsam9895> Can I apt-get beryl?
[07:24] <Chani> poor widdle laptop... can't deal with opening so many tabs on login... so slow
[07:25] <Chani> oh darn, I hope I remembered to save my stuff in kate.
[07:25] <Moltov> Chani: *chuckles* mine has simular problems when i tell it to run three digits in firefox tabs... >.> oh...
[07:25] <Chani> uhoh. "laptop lid is closed, hibernating now" - but the lid wasn't touched
[07:26] <Moltov> Chani: Do you know where the actual pysical switch thats triggered by the lid closing is?
[07:26] <oem> hello all
[07:26] <Moltov> Chani: Some of them can be bumped, in some poorly crafted designs...
[07:27] <Chani> also, coming out of hibernation will re-enable my wireless card and automagically connect to the nearest network, which will probably be on the samme subnet as my wired connection.. boom goes the internet
[07:27] <Chani> Moltov: it tends to be triggered when the lid is 2/3 closed
[07:27] <Moltov> Chani: Hm, can you toss me your laptop model?
[07:28] <Chani> fuck!
[07:28] <hh> bumzo?
[07:28] <Moltov> Chani: Sounds like you have a dimple-switch, which, are one of the bumpible kind.
[07:28] <Chani> same behaviour: i see a dialog start to open then it vanishes
[07:28] <genii> Skuller I opened a private msg to you to help with your mousetrap racer but you seem not responding
[07:28] <hh> hey ...how do i update my firefox to get latest plugins n all ?
[07:29] <hh> what command do i use?
[07:29] <Chani> Moltov: asus m5n
[07:29] <r00t_> swiftfox?
[07:29] <oem> so today i went and bought the must have ubuntu hacks book and Keir Thomas book called beginning ubuntu linux from novice to professional
[07:29] <oem> both are good sells i actualy got my nvidia working the first try!!!
[07:29] <jay_> Can superkaramba restore my widgets if I don't use session restore?
[07:30] <oem> not that nay one cares lol
[07:30] <Skuller> genii: hey man...sorry i was away for a while....please if you can help me out
[07:31] <Chani> oh, even fscking better. now somehow when I try to *send* kmail gives me a lecture about how I should be using gpg-agent.
[07:31] <aksh> jay_: Yes, you'll have to make an .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:31] <Chani> "gpg agent was found but does not appp[ear to be running"
[07:31] <r00t_> i want to uprade to 6.1 but theres nothing in the update manager abooute it?
[07:31] <jay_> aksh, a .desktop that calls superkaramba?
[07:31] <Chani> but it IS running and in konsole I can see $GPG_AGENT_INFO
[07:32] <oem> the only thing it deosnt help me with is installing a webcam
[07:32] <aksh> jay_: yes
[07:32] <r00t_> oem: why is your name oem?
[07:32] <jay_> is that the same as just symlinkin to it?
[07:32] <Moltov> Chani: Well, i cant find anything good enough to tell me where it is, but you might want to turn off on-screen-close functions, other than monitor off.
[07:33] <oem> because i have not Sudo saved my configuration yet...i figure i will do that once i install everything without breaking my system
[07:33] <r00t_> oem: did yoou get **buntu of the box or install in oem mode
[07:34] <oem> installed in oem mode
[07:34] <r00t_> ok
[07:34] <Chani> arg.
[07:34] <Chani> I'm thinking maybe pinentry has a bug
[07:34] <oem> Kubuntu 2.6.17-11-generic
[07:35] <Chani> because when i try to send a message, again I see it flicker and then get the lecture on gpg-agent not being running
[07:35] <r00t_> i want to uprade to 6.1 but theres nothing in the update manager abooute it?
[07:35] <aksh> no, not a symlink, the help file has details on how to make it
[07:35] <oem> i ordered myine online through ebay  1.00 free shipping
[07:36] <r00t_> could anyone in here help me its not busy
[07:37] <hh> ?
[07:37] <aksh> jay_: have a look at the format here: http://pastebin.ca/392984 I think you'll have to make one for each and every theme, rather painful, but a symlink might work, I've never tried
[07:37] <r00t_> or whats the 6.1 room?
[07:37] <Jucato> !upgrade | r00t_
[07:37] <ubotu> r00t_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:40] <Ashex> I do believe that smb4k just fubar'd my sudoers fie
[07:40] <Ashex> when I try to use sudo, I get a syntax error
[07:40] <Ashex> and, I appear to be in a fix, I can't edit the file because I'm not root
[07:40] <Ashex> but I can't sudo to root because the sudoers file is messed up
[07:41] <oem> anyone recommend a proggy to use my webcam with>?
[07:42] <stdin> !webcam
[07:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:43] <Ashex> so, anyone have an idea?
[07:43] <Ashex> Or am I effectively screwed?
[07:43] <stdin> Ashex: do you have a live cd, like the CD you installed with
[07:43] <stdin> ?
[07:44] <Ashex> stdin, Yeah, I've got about 50 of those :P
[07:44] <Ashex> modify it as root from live cd?
[07:44] <jay_> how can I change the color of the text in the taskbar/pager... it's difficult to read the title of the windows listed there
[07:44] <stdin> Ashex: yep
[07:44] <Ashex> aww shucks, now I have to reboot :(
[07:44] <stdin> Ashex: better than reinstall :P
[07:45] <Ashex> Or create a vmware image and mount the drives...
[07:45] <deathnote> how do u set to higher resolution?i set a something higher than 1024x800 in my xorg.conf but it just don't take effect
[07:45] <deathnote> in system settings i can't set to higher too
[07:46] <stdin> Ashex: it'll be easier (and safer) to just use a live cd
[07:46] <Ashex> stdin, true
[07:46] <deathnote> !resolution
[07:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:47] <helena> hi guys!!
[07:47] <seven11> i know this sounds strange but i have to say thank you to all of you i started with kubuntu 6.10 a couple of month ago and i got a lot of help from #kununtu. i am now on feisty and it's more stable than xp ever was. LINUX IS COOL !!
[07:47] <Ashex> I'm tempted to hold out for fiesty though...
[07:47] <iarwain_> hi helena!
[07:47] <iarwain_> ashex, i'm using Feisty atm, and it is very solid :)
[07:47] <helena> I cannot select my printer in kmail, its set up on the CUPS printing
[07:48] <helena> It prints documents in office
[07:48] <iarwain_> helena, i know nothing about printers (don't have one myself) sorry
[07:48] <helena> lol no prob thnx anyeay
[07:49] <jack_> HI, IS there anything like the kwalletmanager that actually works, storing passwords etc?
[07:50] <jack_> in the kmenu icannot find the security and privacy icon where is that?
[07:50] <jack_> cannot find it in the system settings
[07:52] <Jucato> jack_: Alt+F2, kcontrol
[07:52] <jack_> Jucato: thanks, i thought it was kmenu
[07:52] <Jucato> jack_: or in System Settings, but I'm not sure if it's there
[07:54] <oem> how do i get to /etc/apt/
[07:55] <jack_> Jucato: its not there, kwallet doesnt store the kmail passwords and is pretty annoying, is there anything else? i couldnt find a solution for that problem
[07:56] <Jucato> jack_: KControl -> Security and Privacy -> KDE Wallet ?
[07:57] <jack_> Jucato: i know, but thats kind of a bug many people have reported about, that kwallet doesnt store passwords
[07:57] <bumzo> hi people
[07:57] <Jucato> jack_: not really sure... kwallet stores mine just fine... :(
[07:57] <bumzo> i need some plugins for my firefox ...any ideas how to do it?
[07:57] <fuel> bumzo: hi! we meet again!
[07:58] <fuel> bumzo: what question is this ?
[07:58] <fuel> click on the tools and get plugins
[07:58] <Jucato> bumzo: what kind of plugin?
[07:58] <oem> hey fuel
[07:58] <oem> i got the nvidia fixed
[07:58] <jack_> it doesnt work with autostart kontact and kopete jucato
[07:58] <oem> after it crashed my system
[07:58] <bumzo> hi jucato .. adobe flash palyer
[07:58] <Jucato> bumzo: install flashplugin-nonfree?
[07:59] <bumzo> FUEL: hi my man .. i see u, i think of mounting lol
[07:59] <oem> actualy i went and bought the book
[07:59] <Jucato> bumzo: if you manually installed Firefox using the .tar.gz from mozilla, I think there are extra steps to be done
[07:59] <bumzo> juacto: is that a command?
[07:59] <Jucato> jack_: ah I haven't tried autostarting them....
[07:59] <jack_> Jucato: do you know how i can enable the the many messages during the start up on the boot screen..like loading the wm etc.etc
[07:59] <bumzo> yes jucato ... i manyally installed firefox.
[07:59] <bumzo> so what extra steps are these?
[07:59] <Jucato> !firefox | bumzo
[07:59] <ubotu> bumzo: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:00] <Jucato> that FirefoxNewVersion has the steps I think
[08:00] <Jucato> jack_: in you /boot/grub/menu.lst, remove the"quiet" option in the kernel lines, the one beside "ro" and "splash"
[08:01] <bumzo> fuel: otherwise how are u today?
[08:01] <bumzo> fuel: i really appre3ciate for ur help jana
[08:01] <arunkale> Hey, people. My CD drive was reading one of my CDs earlier today, but now it's not reading it any more. The light flashes green, but the computer doesnt recognise it. How can I fix this?
[08:01] <fuel> bumzo: great :) and f*** up , trying to complete my university project :(
[08:02] <bumzo> jana= yesterday (its swahili) fuel:
[08:02] <fuel> swahili ? is it not an african language ?
[08:03] <Chani> ok, so, my gpg-agent is broken
[08:03] <Chani> it shows the pinentry dialog for a split second and dies
[08:03] <fuel> bumzo: correct me if im wrong :D
[08:04] <Chani> and since kde started gpg-agent, I'm not sure where the error messages are going
[08:05] <bumzo> fuel: it is ..am from east africa
[08:05] <bumzo> Fuel: where are u @?
[08:05] <fuel> bumzo: oh! great . i am sorry i could not help you fully ,these mounting problems cause a lot of head ache
[08:06] <fuel> bumzo: India :)
[08:06] <bumzo> Fuel: ahh, thats cool, but you did a great deal...atlease i just type a command everytime i need to mount
[08:07] <fuel> bumzo: no probls :)
[08:07] <bumzo> Fuel: but let me ask ... i have a partitioned HDD .. 3 partitions, one on linux (that am running) and the other two are ntfs. they mounted well with no dificulty when i installed ntfrs-3g
[08:07] <bumzo> fuel?
[08:08] <fuel> bumzo: its not a good idea to have ntfs drives
[08:08] <jack_> Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10146/ it is the first one, right, just uncomment the quiet? i dont want to mess that up with bad consequences, cos i dont see a ro and splash there.
[08:08] <bumzo> i know
[08:08] <fuel> unless you want vista to run :) xp runs fine on fat32
[08:08] <bumzo> Fuel: ho cn i format using kubuntu to FAT32?
[08:08] <Jucato> jack_: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro quiet splash <----
[08:08] <fuel> "ho cn" ?
[08:09] <Jucato> jack_: this one too if you want: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro quiet splash <----
[08:09] <Chani> gpg-agent[29419] : handler 0x808d958 for fd 0 started
[08:09] <Chani> gpg-agent[29419] : starting a new PIN Entry
[08:09] <Chani> gpg-agent[29419] : command get_passphrase failed: Unknown system error
[08:10] <fuel> !pastebin > Chani
[08:10] <jack_> thanks jucaot,sorry i thought you was just pointing at the beginning, so i would finf the right line
[08:10] <jack_> Jucato:
[08:10] <deathnote> i've got beryl running../what's compiz?
[08:10] <Jucato> !compiz | deathnote
[08:10] <ubotu> deathnote: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:10] <userund> compiz is the codebase beryl forked from
[08:12] <deathnote> compiz compositemanager?
[08:12] <deathnote> i'm running on XGL
[08:12] <Cobra_Bubbles> Naked people kicks ass...IN AMERICA!
[08:13] <Jucato> deathnote: compiz and beryl are both compositing window managers. beryl is a fork of compiz. simple as that
[08:14] <deathnote> oic..if i'm using beryl i can't use compiz at the same time, vice versa?
[08:15] <Jucato> yep
[08:15] <deathnote> !beryl
[08:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <Chani> huzzah!
[08:24] <Chani> turns out pinentry-qt and gpg-agent hate each other, but pinentry-gtk works
[08:26] <genii> Chani Glad you got it resolved. where did you find the answer eventually?
[08:26] <Chani> genii: saw some vaguely related bsd gpg issue mentioning htat the curses version seemed to have issues, so tried it
[08:27] <Chani> I had installed the gtk version already and *thought* I had tested it
[08:27] <Chani> but it turned out I wasn't setting hte pinentry program corectly back then
[08:28] <genii> Chani Ahhhh
[08:29] <fuel> is there some nice game i could waste my time with ( no 3d requirement )
[08:29] <fuel> 3d card i meant
[08:31] <[StingRay] > Hi stdin :)
[08:32] <stdin> hi [StingRay] 
[08:32] <fuel> !game
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:34] <[StingRay] > stdin, where do I ask something specific about feisty. I see feisty is supporting something like hardware recognition used by windows OEM software. Are you aware of this?
[08:35] <[StingRay] > stdin, a lot of programs use this to identify different pc-s.
[08:35] <stdin> [StingRay] : I have read something about it, but haven't looked too deep. A good place to ask is #ubuntu+1 the official feisty channel
[08:36] <[StingRay] > stdin, can you paste a link please. I will ask about this in the channel you mentioned. Thanks!
[08:36] <[StingRay] > stdin, you can mention a word for me to google for.
[08:36] <stdin> [StingRay] : it was in a blog somewhere...
[08:36] <Chani> wow, pinentry-qt has been having issues since 2003
[08:37] <[StingRay] > ok, stdin. Have a nice day! :)
[08:38] <stdin> [StingRay] : it's way past my bed time :P I'm going to sleep
[08:38] <[StingRay] > stdin, well then...have a nice sleep ;)
[08:39] <stdin> [StingRay] : see you later :)
[08:39] <[StingRay] > I had same white nights before two Sathurdays because of f.... KM 1400W
[08:42] <lahcen> hi guys,
[08:42] <firecrotch> Hi, lahcen
[08:43] <lahcen> does anyone know how to get rid of the black background of kxdocker when you run the cursor over it?
[08:44] <lahcen> do i need to elaborate?
[08:46] <Alarm> goodmorning. this morning i tried to update my kubuntu 6.10 and it appeared that a new kubuntu version is a available. but nothing listed on the website of kubuntu. should i update or what is that about
[08:50] <lahcen> Alarm, it is kubuntu 7.04 RC4 i believe, so it is not stable yet, but if you want to give it a try you can, i updated mine this morning
[08:50] <Alarm> in case of some bugs, will they be fixed later on with updates ?
[08:50] <oem> i updated and found it was why my agp wasnt working and kept crashing i am going to wait a while
[08:51] <Alarm> ohh nice :)
[08:51] <lahcen> but if you actually decide to upgrade, make sure you close "adept_manager" right after finishing the download of the upgrader
[08:51] <Jucato> Alarm: it seems you have the edgy-proposed repository in your sources.list (which you shouldn't)
[08:51] <Alarm> Jucato,  we talked about this last time. goodmorning by the way
[08:51] <Jucato> (unless you want to help test the distupgrade tool by upgrading to feisty using it)
[08:51] <Alarm> i removed that line
[08:52] <Jucato> Alarm: do you have KDE 3.5.6?
[08:52] <Alarm> and checked again this morning for updates when i saw again the update dialog box
[08:52] <oem> i am getting it to i chose to ignore it
[08:52] <Alarm> saw again the sources.list file and the line with edgy-proposed wasnt included
[08:52] <Alarm> yes. 3.5.6
[08:53] <Jucato> ah... there's a different repository required for edgy users who have KDE 3.5.6..
[08:53] <lahcen> so far, there is a bug in "kdeinit", but don't find it annoying YET!!
[08:54] <oem> i have edgy    Kubuntu
[08:54] <oem> 6.10
[08:54] <Jucato> oem: if you have edgy-proposed in your sources.list, you will be getting this update notification
[08:54] <Alarm> not a big deal
[08:55] <Alarm> i can press on cancel anyway everytime. doesnt bother that much
[08:55] <oem> i sa getting it but chose to ignore it for a while stystem is almost the way i want it
[08:55] <Alarm> thank you and goodmorning again :)
[08:55] <oem> good morning to you
[08:56] <lahcen> hey guys, how do you apply this patch for kxdocker??? http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodo...4a-compiz.diff
[08:57] <lahcen> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/kxdocker114a-compiz.diff
[08:58] <lahcen> nobody??? :(
[08:59] <Slynderdale> lahcen: You have to build the program from the source
[08:59] <lahcen> I did
[08:59] <lahcen> Slynderdale
[09:00] <lahcen> but there is always a black background when i run the mouse over it
[09:00] <lahcen> Slynerdale: I mean over kxdocker
[09:01] <chavo> lahcen, did you download the patch?
[09:01] <lahcen> yes
[09:01] <lahcen> chavo: and i changed the *.cpp files manually
[09:02] <Jucato> patch < -p0 file.diff
[09:04] <lahcen> I'll try that, jucato
[09:04] <Jucato> if you changed the .cpp files manually already, I doubt that will do any good
[09:04] <lahcen> but i have to cd to the directory where kxdocker is
[09:05] <lahcen> i will uninstall it and install it again
[09:06] <lahcen> Jucato, excuse my ignorance, but how do I uninstall a source package?
[09:07] <Jucato> make uninstall
[09:07] <oem> hey Fuel: i went and bought beginning Ubuntu Linux by Keir Thomas today.. it is a good read
[09:07] <Jucato> in the directory where you ran make install
[09:07] <lahcen> ok, great, i'll do that
[09:08] <oem> it cost an arm and leg but well worth it
[09:08] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:09] <oem> hello
[09:09] <ubuntu_> whats better ubuntu or kubuntu?? i need to know lol
[09:09] <oem> Kubuntu is an upgrade to ubuntu  i started out on Kubuntu
[09:09] <smurphy> U guys know how to get rid of this message ? when I upgrade my system ?
[09:10] <oem> I like it personally
[09:10] <Slynderdale> Anyone here familiar with running programs under WIne?
[09:10] <smurphy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:10] <smurphy>  ulogd
[09:10] <smurphy>  ulogd-mysql
[09:10] <oem> I am now
[09:10] <oem> familiar
[09:10] <oem> with wine
[09:11] <aric> is there a way, i can ghost a hard drive that has NTFS partition ?
[09:11] <oem> Fuel might know
[09:11] <smurphy> aric: dd if=/dev/hda of=outfile.raw ?
[09:12] <aric> how would i ghost it to a new hard drive? after using the dd command ?
[09:12] <smurphy> aric: dd if=outfile.raw of=/dev/hda
[09:13] <smurphy> turn it around. It's not really ghost - but it's a bit-to-bit copy of the original drive.
[09:13] <aric> ic
[09:13] <smurphy> It has to have the exact same size.
[09:13] <aric> okay.. i was wondering if there is a software to use
[09:13] <aric> exact same size hard drive ?
[09:13] <smurphy> There is... Guess partimage ? or similar.
[09:13] <smurphy> that can do it.
[09:14] <smurphy> !partimage
[09:14] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[09:14] <smurphy> Can also do NTFS - but is marked as experimental.
[09:14] <aric> hmm... i will try that out
[09:16] <aric> thank you smurphy
[09:16] <smurphy> No problem :)
[09:17] <smurphy> So - anyon here knows how I can get the system to fix my dpkg errors ?
[09:17] <smurphy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:17] <smurphy>  ulogd
[09:17] <smurphy> ???
[09:17] <elijah> hi everyone
[09:26] <genii> smurphy: what does: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ulog*  show?
[09:32] <smurphy> genii: no such file or directory :)
[09:33] <smurphy> genii - just came back from getting fresh coffee ...
[09:33] <smurphy> Problem is -this is a Firewall I've set up using Busybox and some own scripts on a CF Card ... It copies all to Ram-FS and boots from that.
[09:34] <genii> smurphy:looks like ulogd is the issue. try:   sudo apt-get install ulogd
[09:35] <genii> Seems like some other prog assumes it is installed already
[09:35] <smurphy> I am using ulogd and ulogd-mysql ... :)
[09:35] <_4strO> yop
[09:35] <smurphy> It is installed ... I am using the ulog-extension to write to a remote mysql-db to generate dynamic blacklists on port-scanners ;)
[09:35] <genii> smurphy: Does ps ax|grep ulogd    show it running?
[09:37] <smurphy> It runs :) Check: http://www.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=systat&op=gnrstatus
[09:37] <smurphy> ulogd-mysql depends on ulogd (= 1.23-5); however:
[09:37] <smurphy>   Package ulogd is not configured yet.
[09:37] <bentob0x> hi, I'm having problems sharing files using samba on my machine.  First off, my machine is setup on MSHOME and the second machine sees me in WORKGROUP.  Why is that?
[09:37] <smurphy> Hmmm...Strange... Can be a result - as I built the Firewall first with Debian Sarge - then cross-upgraded to Ubuntu-LTS 6.06.1 .....
[09:38] <genii> smurphy  due to your setup my guess would be that since it runs from a ram fs that there is some tidy-up issue of not copying the dpkg details such as the state of what packages are in back to the CF card
[09:39] <smurphy> If it's in the Cache directory - then yes. I ski[ the cache directories - as it's variable Data and not required for operation ...
[09:39] <smurphy> But - I am comming from the RedHat/Mandrake World (Was just fed-up with all their Marketing/Enterprise stuff - so looked for an alternative - and have to say - Kubuntu/Ubuntu Rulez).
[09:39] <smurphy> :)
[09:40] <genii> smurphy You should copy at least the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat back
[09:41] <smurphy> Were do I get it from ??? *lol* It's not there... After a software upgrade etc. - I usually clean the caches ...
[09:41] <genii> smurphy or elso do a sync before umounting the ramfs or mount it with sync as option so no unfinished wrotes
[09:42] <genii> uninished *writes*
[09:42] <genii> bleh typos
[09:42] <smurphy> I do ... Wrote an application for that. Before a reboot etc. it flushes the buffers, syncs the Ram-FS with the CF-Card and reboots.
[09:42] <smurphy> Short shellscript - only about 1500 lines :)
[09:42] <smurphy> can I force the configured-flag somehow ???
[09:42] <genii> smurphy: OK, so sync is not the issue :) The dat file dor dpkg then seems to be the crux
[09:43] <smurphy> yep ...
[09:43] <genii> dat file for dpkg
[09:43] <genii> Does dir /var/cache/debconf exist on the ramdisk?
[09:43] <smurphy> Just tried  dpkg --configure ulogd
[09:44] <smurphy> yep - exists.
[09:44] <genii> smurphy You want dpkg-reconfigure ulogd
[09:44] <smurphy> Ok. Thx :)
[09:45] <smurphy> -> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: ulogd is broken or not fully installed *lol*
[09:46] <Zaden> Hey room
[09:46] <miltos> hi ppl:-] 
[09:46] <Zaden> is anyone here that can answer 2 questions i have
[09:46] <smurphy> genii: dpkg-reconfigure --force  ulogd :)
[09:47] <smurphy> seems to do the trick ...
[09:47] <Zaden> ?
[09:47] <genii> smurphy Ok, was just looking up man dpkg for correct switches :)
[09:47] <firecrotch> !ask | Zaden
[09:47] <ubotu> Zaden: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:47] <smurphy> Hehe... Sometimes I'm faster ;) Used to read Manapages since 1992 ;) so I usually know where to look for :)
[09:48] <Zaden> is Download Kubuntu 6.10 the full os or do i have to download something else?
[09:48] <firecrotch> Zaden: It's the full OS
[09:48] <smurphy> Zaden You can wodnload the full Internet if you want to - but the one disk usually is enough :)
[09:48] <Zaden> and how is the wifi support in kubuntu
[09:49] <genii> smurphy Anyhow, you should make sure to copy the /var/cache/debconf/config.dat     back so it has correct package states
[09:49] <smurphy> Zaden: Actually - I'm wifiing on a Mac-Mini - and utilization is very easy :)
[09:49] <Zaden> well it detect my notebooks built-in wireless ?
[09:49] <firecrotch> Zaden: It really depends on your wireless card.  Mine worked right out of the box, but others have problems
[09:49] <Zaden> kk
[09:49] <smurphy> This Directory is synced by dfault ...
[09:49] <smurphy> Zaden - what Notebook you have ?
[09:50] <Kuwanger> Hmm..  What's the least amount of RAM that's necessary to install, using the alternative ISO?
[09:50] <Zaden> Well i just ordered a new dell with amd duel core 2 TL-56
[09:50] <firecrotch> Zaden: If it works when you're just running it as a Live CD, it should work fine when you install.
[09:50] <smurphy> If I remember correctly - 20MB
[09:50] <genii> Kuwanger: 64Mb
[09:50] <genii> (in my experience)
[09:50] <Zaden> ok and if im having issues with it while running the live cd. What shale i do?
[09:50] <smurphy> Ah ? IO managed on 20 - but had to  -  after the bootup to create manually a swap of 60MB and use it ;)
[09:51] <acemo> anyone here has any experience with bluetooth headsets on kubuntu?
[09:51] <Zaden> Reason why i ask the wifi questions is gentoo has shitty support for wireless
[09:52] <Zaden> anyone want a legit non used vista serial?
[09:52] <firecrotch> Zaden: I tried Gentoo once, and I had no clue what I was doing, but somehow my wireless card worked :)
[09:52] <smurphy> Zaden: no... Thx ... Not using the stuff ... UT2k4 is running under Linux - so I don't need any windows stuff *lol8
[09:52] <Kuwanger> I assume it's possible to use loadlin instead of lilo or grub?
[09:52] <smurphy> Kuwanger: yes. Shouldn't be an issue.
[09:52] <Zaden> ya i never got it and they did not help me in the irc
[09:53] <Zaden> so im hoping this works better
[09:53] <firecrotch> Zaden: Can you give us the model of your laptop?
[09:53] <Zaden> if i an having a issue with my wireless and live cd does not work. What should i do to solve the problem
[09:54] <Zaden> Dell Inspiron 1501
[09:54] <Zaden> amd duel core 2 TL56
[09:54] <Zaden> 1 gig of ram
[09:55] <smurphy> Zaden: what chipset is it using ? ICH8/ICH7 ?
[09:55] <Zaden> not sure
[09:55] <Zaden> let me search
[09:55] <Zaden> i get ti tomarrow or so fedex says so
[09:55] <smurphy> Zaden: Issue the following command - and paste the result pls.: lspci | grep Ethernet
[09:56] <smurphy> I'll be offline for some minutes - have to reconfigure my Wlan-repeater - and it's on a nother Subnet with no Internet access ...
[09:57] <Zaden> one sec
[09:57] <acemo> dell inspirion 1501 has Dell 1390 802.11g Mini Wireless Card
[09:57] <Zaden> correct
[09:57] <firecrotch> Zaden: You'll need to use ndiswrapper to get it to work, but that shouldn't be too much of a hassle
[09:58] <Zaden> smur im in xp right now
[09:58] <firecrotch> !ndiswrapper
[09:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <Kuwanger> What is "../main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz"?
[10:00] <firecrotch> Zaden: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092  This thread should help you out
[10:00] <Zaden> what doc am i looking for fire
[10:01] <acemo> anyone here has any experience with bluetooth headsets on kubuntu?
[10:01] <Zaden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[10:01] <Zaden> is that correct for me
[10:01] <Kuwanger> Ah..something for a 256MB USB stick.. :/
[10:02] <Kuwanger> If I plan to mount the .iso on loopback on a fat32 filesystem, should I use the cdrom/... files?
[10:02] <firecrotch> Zaden: The thread that I linked to on ubuntuforums is specific to your laptop :)
[10:02] <Zaden> yes it looks great
[10:03] <Zaden> thanks
[10:03] <Zaden> i guess i will just direct connect my top to install all the stuff i need then test wireless out
[10:04] <CrypTom> Hi, is it possible to get pmount working with UUID? Meaning, I would like pmount to automatically mount my USB-devices on specific mount points based on the UUID.
[10:04] <Zaden> has anyone here heard of or used bluebug?
[10:05] <Kuwanger> CrypTom: Sounds like something udev could do.
[10:06] <fdoving> CrypTom: sounds like something the kde media manager can do.
[10:07] <fdoving> CrypTom: put the device in and have it mount itself, then rightclick on it (on the desktop or media:/) -> properties -> mounting -> select mountpoint.
[10:09] <seven11> i have a nvidia fx5200 how do i set up the drive at the moment i use nv
[10:10] <seven11> nvidia driver help please
[10:10] <CrypTom> fdoving: ah, great, I will try. I tried fstab, but that did not work
[10:12] <CrypTom> fdoving: I changed the mount point to my needs, unplugged and replugged it, but it still got mounted to the old mountpoint
[10:13] <fdoving> CrypTom: you can use fstab but it requires you to use /dev/disk/by-uuid/41BC-15D8 instead of for example /dev/sda1
[10:13] <seven11> in system settings the graphics card is nvidia geforce fx (generic) and the driver is nv... how do i get the right driver
[10:13] <fdoving> CrypTom: hum. strange, hang on. i'll try.
[10:14] <CrypTom> fdoving: fstab: I tried UUID=hexcode  /mntpoint ... (and I tried auto and noauto)
[10:15] <fdoving> CrypTom: /dev/disk/by-uuid/hexcode /mntpoint ....
[10:15] <Zaden> does wine run on kubuntu
[10:15] <bentob0x> how can my computer be seen on the network via Workgroup when I did set it up as mshome?
[10:15] <acemo> Zaden, yes
[10:15] <bentob0x> do I need to reload samba or something?
[10:16] <fdoving> bentob0x: yes, 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' from a konsole.
[10:16] <bentob0x> oh lord :(
[10:16] <Zaden> Sorry for all the questions, What is the est install time it takes for kubuntu to fully install
[10:16] <seven11> anybody nvidia driver help
[10:16] <fdoving> Zaden: that all depends on your computer.
[10:17] <acemo> Zaden, took me bout 30 min
[10:17] <malik_> is it a good idea to use compiz with kde?
[10:17] <acemo> including adjusting the configuration to my likes
[10:17] <fdoving> CrypTom: works for me, to change the mountpoint in the mediamanager-way.
[10:17] <malik_> n whats better eyecandy for kde compiz/beryl/metacity/kwin?
[10:17] <Zaden> so 20 to 30 mins on a 2ghz duel amd x2 core?
[10:17] <fdoving> malik_: if you want those effects it's probably not that bad.
[10:18] <acemo> Zaden, about that should be yes
[10:18] <jack_> Jucato: hi, if i use a gnome application like gnucashhow can i manage that it looks just like the other kde apps?
[10:18] <fdoving> malik_: kwin and metacity does barely have effects, compiz and beryl does have effects, beryl is overloaded with effects.
[10:18] <fdoving> malik_: #ubuntu-effects got more info on that topic.
[10:18] <CrypTom> fdoving: in the properties dialog (you pointed out) I have no mount options set (exept mountpoint), is that correct? Or do I have to set "automount", which is done even without this option set
[10:19] <seven11> in system settings the graphics card is nvidia geforce fx (generic) and the driver is nv... how do i get the right driver
[10:19] <fdoving> CrypTom: no, you don't have to set anything else. i know it's kinda weird that it automounts even without automount option enabled. but if you enable automounting it will automount before the popup askin you what to do appears.
[10:20] <smurphy_> Anyone knows how to setup WPA on the CLI ? *lol*
[10:20] <fdoving> CrypTom: with automounting disabled, it doesn't mount until you close the popup. but i'm in the process of making it not mount when you select to 'do nothing'.
[10:21] <fdoving> smurphy_: get wpasupplicant.
[10:21] <smurphy_> fwdowing - it's in already ...
[10:21] <oem> is there a grapgics manager or screen resolution manager for kubuntu?
[10:21] <fdoving> smurphy_: then read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/README.wpa_supplicant.conf.gz
[10:21] <fdoving> oem, krandrtray is nice.
[10:21] <smurphy_> But I have  Firewall I want it to run on - and no KDE/Gnome on it :)
[10:21] <smurphy_> Thx.
[10:22] <fdoving> smurphy_: you can read it with 'zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/README.wpa_supplicant.conf.gz'
[10:23] <CrypTom> fdoving: well, it still mounts to the old mountpoint...
[10:23] <smurphy_> fdoving - thx. I'll check it out :)
[10:23] <fdoving> CrypTom: weird.
[10:24] <oem> where do i get krandrtray?
[10:24] <fdoving> oem, should already be installed. kmenu -> run -> 'krandrtray'
[10:26] <oem> ah yes much better lol ty
[10:29] <smurphy_> fdoving - where exactly has the wpasupplicant file has to reside ? I find 3 different locations - as described in /var/lib/dpkg/info/wpasupplicant.conffiles
[10:30] <intelikey> smurphy_ dpkg -L wpasupplicant
[10:31] <bentob0x> is it me or the whole samba interface is very flakey?
[10:31] <smurphy_> bentobox: Nope - Windows is very flaky ...
[10:31] <bentob0x> I'm on kubuntu
[10:31] <bentob0x> ...
[10:32] <smurphy_> intelikey: Problem is rather - that I have no GUI for setting it up - and I just try to figure out how all that stuff fits together ...
[10:32] <bentob0x> I'm trying for the last week or so to share a folder on the network to a specified user so he can modify files and it's not working
[10:32] <smurphy_> bentobox: So why to you need samba then ?
[10:32] <bentob0x> coz nfs didn't work
[10:32] <bentob0x> <- big linux noob
[10:32] <smurphy_> nfs fifn't work ? under Linux ?
[10:33] <intelikey> sounds more like a permissions issue to me.
[10:33] <bentob0x> yea, I decided to migrate my two office computers onto linux and its been fantastic for everything except networking
[10:33] <smurphy_> yep...
[10:33] <bentob0x> samba, firestarter, user rights etc
[10:33] <bentob0x> headaches and productivity drops
[10:33] <bentob0x> :(
[10:34] <|GaiJin|> ehm... finnes det en mte  slippe  restarte maskinen nr jeg setter inn en SATA disk. Det er tilsynelatende lett i windows, men jeg vil ha det her p denne maskinen...
[10:34] <smurphy_> bentobox: I have 6 Computers over here... I use NFS only for installation DVD's - all the other stuff use  sshfs. more secure ;)
[10:34] <bentob0x> ok so can anybody help me going back on the productivity tracks please
[10:34] <bentob0x> I want to share my /var/www/ folder to one user only
[10:34] <bentob0x> for full access
[10:34] <smurphy_> bentob0x: nfs is easyer.
[10:35] <bentob0x> I don't mind the method, I just want it to work on the network without compromising security
[10:35] <smurphy_> bentob0x: MAke sure you have the users with the same Id's on both sides. E.g.: id <username> shoudl show the same user=ID on all computers;
[10:35] <|GaiJin|> Doh... wrong channel
[10:35] <bentob0x> ah and what if it isn't the same id?
[10:35] <smurphy_> Then - configure NFS. Make sure nfs-server is installed on the nfs-server.
[10:35] <smurphy_> bentob0x - then you have to adapt the ID's ...
[10:36] <bentob0x> hmm
[10:36] <|GaiJin|> Is there a way to get linux to discover a Sata disk as I plug it in, without reboot??
[10:36] <smurphy_> NFS/Samba etc. works with user ID's. The Username is not important.
[10:36] <smurphy_> GaiJin: Depends on your Hardware. Might work.
[10:36] <|GaiJin|> got any reading material?
[10:36] <bentob0x> ok smurphy_, I'm going to have a look at it then and come back to you in a minute
[10:37] <bentob0x> thx for help
[10:37] <smurphy_> GaiJin: not at hand. no. I have it running on an Epia-Board. I just force the system to rescan the S-ATA bus. That's all.
[10:37] <smurphy_> bentob0x: p.
[10:37] <smurphy_> sorry folks - I'll be offline for some minutes ... Have to reconfigure another Network-Box.
[10:37] <perrin> hi,  can anyone help me with a display / font issue? you can see it at http://tinyurl.com/38q7ko.  the text in the box is add and pixelated, and i cant seem to work out how to change it.  Its in other programs as well, not just the displayed one.  Thanks!
[10:38] <intelikey> numeric user/group id's will work   although if they very from one box to another you may give two or more users full access to the files.
[10:38] <alain> bonjour
[10:38] <intelikey> howdy
[10:39] <alain> il y a des franais ? :/
[10:39] <intelikey> !fr
[10:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:40] <intelikey> no jave here dude  and i don't do windows either
[10:40] <intelikey> :)
[10:40] <intelikey> java even
[10:41] <bentob0x> ok I've disabled my samba deamon all together and shared the folder /var/www/ via NFS with NFS Options Public (checked) and Writeable (checked)
[10:42] <bentob0x> but I don't linke the idea of having that folder publicly shared
[10:43] <bentob0x> now, what do I need to use on the other computer to see the network share?
[10:43] <bentob0x> as we won't use samba from now so no samba client right?
[10:45] <intelikey> i don't know anything about networking.   i'd be forced to just use ssh     that's all i know.
[10:46] <perrin> hi,  can anyone help me with a display / font issue? you can see it at http://tinyurl.com/38q7ko - the text in the box is odd and pixelated, and i cant seem to work out how to change it.  Its in other programs as well, not just the displayed one.  Thanks!hi,  can anyone help me with a display / font issue? you can see it at http://tinyurl.com/38q7ko.  the text in the box is add and pixelated, and i cant seem to work out how to change
[10:46] <perrin> it.  Its in other programs as well, not just the displayed one.  Thanks!
[10:47] <perrin> woah sorry
[10:49] <Skuller> lol...
[10:50] <perrin> ill make you a great coffee if u can help me :P
[10:51] <bcochofel> Hi, I'm from Portugal and I've installed Kubuntu 6.10. I'm having troubles with my keyboard
[10:51] <bcochofel> Where can I set the correct key layout?
[10:52] <Smurphy_> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[10:52] <Smurphy_> Sorry - in regional & Language ;)
[10:52] <Smurphy_> DEfine there the Keyboard layout.
[10:53] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: I've done that but still I can't use my accents
[10:53] <bentob0x> I have enabled  NFS now so how can I see this machine from the other machine?
[10:54] <bcochofel> I don't have the LANG vars set and I don't know why?
[10:54] <Smurphy_> on the other machine - issue the command: showmount -e <server-ip>
[10:54] <Ash-Fox> bcochofel, you probably didn't install the needed locales
[10:55] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: yep... Click on install Language.
[10:56] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: Something like kde-18ln-pt?! I have.
[10:56] <bentob0x> either it's not doing anything or it's taking a very long time to do something
[10:56] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: This should show you if the NFS Server is providing you mount-point/share :)
[10:56] <bcochofel> I don't have accents even on the login screen
[10:56] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: What command exactly did you enter ?
[10:56] <bentob0x> nothing
[10:56] <bentob0x> showmount -e 192.168.0.1
[10:57] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: 192.168.0.1 is the NFS-Server ? or is the router ?
[10:57] <bentob0x> it's still blinking
[10:57] <teacher> hey. How can I sort by size in konsole ????????? and print by name??????????
[10:57] <bentob0x> it's this  machine,
[10:57] <bentob0x> the NFS-Server
[10:57] <Smurphy_> bcohifel: in that case - add a language for the keyboard...
[10:57] <intelikey> howto find what HorizSync & VertRefresh    i cau use ?    looked in xorg.conf figuring to find a range  but it never mentions them ?
[10:57] <Smurphy_> the local machine ?
[10:57] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: the local machine ?
[10:58] <Smurphy_> then issue: showmoune -e localhost
[10:58] <teacher> hey. How can I sort by size in konsole ????????? and print by name??????????
[10:58] <bentob0x> ok got you
[10:58] <bentob0x> sorry
[10:58] <bentob0x> Export list for localhost:
[10:58] <bentob0x> /var/www (everyone)
[10:58] <intelikey> teacher man sort
[10:59] <Smurphy_> bantob0x: Argh... No security at all ! *lol* if I have access to your Lan - I can do all with your files :)
[10:59] <bentob0x> aherm ...
[10:59] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Ok - so you have access to it: No try to mount that directory locally - using nfs.
[10:59] <Smurphy_> betnob0x: mount -t nfs localhost:/var/www /mnt/nfs
[10:59] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: make sure you create /mnt/nfs first
[11:00] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: then issue: mount
[11:00] <intelikey> man sort   man ls   paying attention to -s    teacher
[11:00] <Smurphy_> bentobox: should show you a new mount point under: /mnt/nfs
[11:00] <bentob0x> ok this works
[11:01] <Smurphy_> bentobox: OK. I would opt to set a little bit more security: You /etc/exports file - adapt it and make sure you have:
[11:01] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: I have done that also. I have accents under ttyN, the problem is only under X11
[11:01] <Smurphy_> bentobox: /var/www (rw,sync,root_squash) - this would restrict super-user access a little - also - I'd put your Lan in front: 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 to restrict access to the local LAN only.
[11:02] <bentob0x> so basically : /var/www 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,root_squash)?
[11:03] <intelikey> seems there is always more than one way to debark a felion
[11:03] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Then under system settings -> regional Language -> Keyboard Layout - Enable the Button : Enable KLeyboard Layouts. This will put you a button in Kicker bar - and there - select which keyboard you want to use.
[11:03] <NeXaLb> salve
[11:03] <Smurphy_> bcohoftel: You need to have this options configure though - to have the portugues keyboard layout enabled ;)
[11:04] <Smurphy_> betnob0x: Yep. Correct. restart the exportfs-directove with: exportfs -ra - and the system should reread the conf-file.
[11:04] <|GaiJin|> Smurphy_: About the rescanning of the S-ATA bus, mind giving me a hand??
[11:05] <Smurphy_> GaiJin: Did that 6 months ago. don't remember. I took the hints from a SCSI list at that time...
[11:05] <bentob0x> exportfs: could not open /var/lib/nfs/etab for locking
[11:05] <bentob0x> exportfs: can't lock /var/lib/nfs/etab for writing
[11:05] <bentob0x> is this normal?
[11:05] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: prepend a sudo in front. e.g. sudo exportfs -ar :)
[11:06] <|GaiJin|> Smurphy_: okies...
[11:06] <bentob0x> oh lord
[11:06] <alain> fr
[11:06] <bentob0x> k done
[11:06] <bentob0x> and working
[11:06] <alain> franais
[11:06] <bentob0x> !fr
[11:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:06] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Under ubuntu- you are a standard user. You always need remmber that system stuff requires sometimes Admin-access ;)
[11:06] <Smurphy_> alain: OUaips - mauvais channel ici... C'est anglais :)
[11:06] <bentob0x> hehe yes I know, just that when pressure is on you forget those basic things
[11:07] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Yeah :) Happens to me under Windows :) *rotflbtc*
[11:07] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: isn't there a system config option?
[11:07] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: for kdm?
[11:07] <Smurphy_> bcochtel: Hmmm. Dunnoi - never troied. I work with 6 languages over here - so I require that ...
[11:09] <bentob0x> ok now my mount is all strange
[11:09] <bentob0x> the /mnt/nfs thing
[11:09] <bentob0x> --------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? nfs
[11:09] <bentob0x> that's what I have
[11:09] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: before you modify the system setting s- you should of course unmount that ;)
[11:09] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: umount /mnt/nfs
[11:09] <Smurphy_> and then remount :)
[11:09] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: even with the PT flag under toolbar I'm not able to use accents in the kconsole
[11:10] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: is there any other package needed?
[11:10] <Smurphy_> Ah 0 this might be the Leyboard type in X configuration.
[11:10] <intelikey> oh KRAP!  ulimit not working for root
[11:10] <bentob0x> k I'm getting permission denied now
[11:11] <bentob0x> no it works with IP
[11:11] <bentob0x> not with localhost
[11:11] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: yes - you can't mount using the localhost :) As localhost (127.0.0.1) is not allowed. only the local IP ... 192.168.0.1 can mount it :)
[11:12] <bentob0x> I suppose it's due to the changes in the exports file
[11:12] <bentob0x> k got it
[11:12] <bentob0x> it starts to make sense now
[11:12] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Edit your X-Confioguration file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adapt the correct keyboard. Should do the trick.
[11:12] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Had ablut 120 Systems using NFS - I had to understand how it works *lol*
[11:12] <bentob0x> yea I'd like to get a good book to learn the guts of it
[11:13] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Then restart X-windows - e.g. logout, and in KDM tell it to restart the x-Server.
[11:13] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: 15Year Linux experience ... No book pays off there ;)
[11:13] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: that's why I think there's something wrong. I have. My xorg.conf is equal to one that I have on ubuntu (even the keyboard is the same) and under ubuntu works
[11:13] <intelikey> or ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:14] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: hat does the line XkbLayout and XkbVariant in /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like ?
[11:14] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Now - all you ave to do is to mount that nfs-server from the reote boxes. Try it out.
[11:14] <bcochofel> the GDM conf has something for setxkbmap and xmodmap and I don't see that in KDM
[11:15] <bentob0x> yep, I just did but it seems to take a while
[11:15] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: if it works - add an entry in /etc;/fstab for these to be ounted at boot-up and you;re doine.
[11:15] <intelikey> why will ulimit not work for root on this box?
[11:15] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Cause under KDE - the user can decide what to use...
[11:15] <intelikey> oh wait. i think i know.    it's not a login shell it's su -    ...
[11:16] <bentob0x> that command is still running
[11:17] <bcochofel> XkbLayout pt
[11:17] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: whic command ? remote box ?
[11:17] <bentob0x> yep
[11:18] <bentob0x> sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/var/www /mnt/www_laurent
[11:18] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Do you see the "Flag" button in kicker ???
[11:18] <bentob0x> that's  on the remote machine
[11:18] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: on which host you do that ?
[11:18] <intelikey> well ulimit works for logins  so i guess that will do.    odd that ulimit wont work on   su -
[11:18] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: yes, portuguese flag
[11:18] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: ok - you have a firewall running on your Server ? Packet-Filter ?
[11:18] <Mask> find . -size +0c -printf '%s\n' | sort -n
[11:18] <bentob0x> firestarter
[11:19] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Then open a konsole - and type what you want ... to check.
[11:19] <Mask> find . -size +0c -printf '%s\n' | sort -n this is printing size. I want name??    ?????
[11:19] <Smurphy_> bentobox: Then disable the firewall - just for testing ... :)
[11:19] <Mask> intelikey find . -size +0c -printf '%s\n' | sort -n this is printing size. I want name??    ?????
[11:19] <bentob0x> Smurphy_: by having this in exports : /var/www/ 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,root_squash), does it not restrict it only to 0.0?
[11:19] <intelikey> '{}'
[11:20] <Smurphy_> bentobox: 255.255.255.0 is the netmask. it restricts it to 192.168.0.0 up to 192.168.0.255 - all in between can access it.
[11:21] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: BTW - you have access it with 192.168.0.1 didn't you ? ;)
[11:21] <intelikey> Mask what's wrong with   ls -S   ?
[11:21] <bentob0x> what you mean? locally?
[11:21] <bentob0x> on the same machine?
[11:21] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: In a console on your NFS-Server (Where te firewall is active) checik the firewall logs - eventually even a dmesg should gove you informations which ports are locking it all.
[11:22] <Smurphy_> yes - but we used the IP of the machine :)
[11:22] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: still no good
[11:23] <bcochofel> my menus have both portuguese and english strings
[11:23] <bentob0x> looks like port 111
[11:23] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: in that case - don't know what is wrong ...
[11:23] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Ah - that's because not all menus have been translated :) *lol*
[11:24] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: ok - Enable access to port 111 for the Lan 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 - and it should work.
[11:24] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: eventually - the portmapper also wants to access ... But check with that one first. it's been 9 years I used NFS through a firewall :) *lol*
[11:24] <bcochofel> ok, thanks
[11:25] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: You can join the translation team ... it's a hell of a work - and nobody thansk you for it. I know by experience. I translated KDE 1.0 from englisch to French *lol*
[11:25] <bentob0x> what's port 973?
[11:26] <Smurphy_> don't know: grep 973 /etc/services
[11:26] <Smurphy_> doesn't exist...
[11:26] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: I believe that isn't the problem, I have another kubuntu that has all the menus in portuguese but the keys has the same problem
[11:27] <bentob0x> nothing on grep 973
[11:27] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: I don't know what's wrong then... Sorry.
[11:27] <bcochofel> Smurphy_: all pcs with ubuntu have the right kbd, I'm only getting problems w kubuntu
[11:27] <Smurphy_> betnob0x: I know. tried it here ...
[11:27] <bentob0x> :)
[11:28] <Smurphy_> bcochofel: Eventually the wrong keyboard-type configure in kubuntu.
[11:28] <bcochofel> !pt
[11:28] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:28] <bentob0x> bcochofel: try #kde maybe?
[11:28] <bentob0x> they are aware of some issues that is kde-specific on ubuntu
[11:31] <intelikey> Mask or did you mean     find . -size +0c -print       find . -size +0c -exec echo '{}' \;      or some other veriant ?     but if i had a clue what and why i could probably give better addvice.
[11:41] <genii> bentob0x: Look up any standard port number assignment at http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers  It may also be some remapped port for a common service in your case.
[11:41] <genii> bentob0x: sudo netstat -a|grep 973 may give you some clue
[11:42] <bentob0x> now I just got some 614 port blocked by my firewall
[11:42] <bentob0x> again, the mount command doens't work
[11:42] <bentob0x> it hangs
[11:42] <bentob0x> juts got a timed out reply
[11:44] <bentob0x> what's npmp-gui?
[11:51] <bentob0x> should I create a rule in my firewall to open 614?
[11:52] <Smurphy_> yes ...
[11:52] <Smurphy_> but check the logs first ...
[11:53] <bentob0x> which logs?
[11:54] <bentob0x> ok it's mounted now but on read-only
[11:54] <Smurphy_> bentobox: why read only ?
[11:55] <bentob0x> dunno
[11:55] <bentob0x> I mean the other machine doesn't have write access
[11:56] <intelikey> i just couldn't stand it anymore  i deleted 20 links from rcS.d and 28 from rc<default_runlevel>.d     sorry guys i simply can not tolerate the default setup.    i really tried hard to keep it default.
[11:56] <Smurphy_> :)
[11:56] <miltos> for your info ...vlc doen't work well with kubuntu...I reinstalled kubuntu cause i thought there was a problem with the sound...but the problem was with VLC media player...
[11:57] <bentob0x> vlc works fine here miltos
[11:57] <miltos> movie player works pretty well
[11:57] <miltos> I've no sound with VLC
[11:57] <intelikey> those 48 scripts not running at boot time should help  maybe i can leave the rest as is for now.
[11:58] <intelikey> miltos so tell vlc to use alsa output
[11:58] <intelikey> it's confiturable
 how do i tell it?
[11:58] <intelikey> configurable maybe.
[11:58] <intelikey> in it's menu
[11:58] <intelikey> time to go later folks.
there is no such a thing in VLC
[12:02] <bentob0x> Smurphy_: I have this line in exports as we did earlier on : /var/www/ 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,root_squash)
[12:02] <bentob0x> but still, the second machine doesn't have write access
[12:02] <oem> i cannot get my game to use more ram off of my agp card can anyone help me
[12:03] <oem> the card isnt rendeeeeering the graphics quickly enough
[12:03] <Smurphy_> bentob0x: Root will not have write access. only a user with the same uid as on the server itself :)
[12:03] <oem> anyone help me?
[12:04] <bentob0x> ok and how can I set that up?
[12:04] <bentob0x> oem: what's your video card?  did you install the right drivers?
[12:05] <oem> sec let me install a different set
[12:05] <Smurphy_> check the user id's .. Or root write access ???
[12:05] <bentob0x> eeh no :)
[12:06] <bentob0x> so what would be the best policy for this?
[12:06] <bentob0x> should I create a userid on the server with a specific ID and create the same ID on the client machine and then mount using that user?
[12:07] <bentob0x> where could I get a good tutorial/howto/article on user management etc?
[12:07] <Smurphy_> dunno :) /etc/passwd ??? :)
[12:09] <carola> hallo
[12:10] <carola> ich hab ein problem ... :( ich hab mit adept ein paar pakete aus gnome installiert, neugestartet, und nun startet gnome statt kde. was muss ich denn tun damit kde wieder startet?
[12:10] <genii> bentob0x: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/managing-users.html is a very good start. Some paths on debian/ubuntu linux are a bit different but not much.
[12:10] <carola> uhm, i installed some packaged with adept, and now gnome starts up as default. what can i do to change back to kde?
[12:10] <genii> !de | carola
[12:10] <ubotu> carola: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:12] <genii> carola mit console installiert gnome: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <genii> carola KDE: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <carola> genii: thats already installed
[12:15] <genii> carola In the display manager you can select the session type
[12:15] <genii> (where you login)
[12:15] <carola> genii: ok, so i'll try again :)
[12:15] <carola> thx so far :)
[12:15] <genii> carola :)
[12:19] <genii> Wow, quiet in here now
[12:20] <Jucato> scream boy. scream
[12:21] <genii> N o wonder I hate tea
[12:21] <Jucato> :D
[12:22] <oem> i need the rrepository page please
[12:29] <oem> any one help me?
[12:33] <genii> oem http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[12:33] <genii> oem for whatever country prepend archive with country code
[12:33] <genii> eg us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:38] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | oem
[12:38] <ubotu> oem: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:39] <oem> ok
[12:40] <SolidSource> anyone else feel like taking an axe to their computer besides me?
[12:42] <waylandbill> SolidSource: everyday!!
[12:43] <oem> ok i am installing or trying to install a newer driver for my nvidia card from this addy    http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-7184.html
[12:44] <oem> can some one tell me how i am supposed to install it?
[12:44] <SolidSource> oem: tried nvidia-glx from the repos already?
[12:45] <oem> yes it isnt rendering right i need a tool kit so i can adjust it
[12:45] <baz> how do you get adept to install packages such as g++? ive tried all sorts and t doesnt pick up any additional packages
[12:45] <oem> it wont give me the settings tool kit without taking the glx away
[12:45] <SolidSource> oem: it does
[12:46] <SolidSource> oem: just doesn't do it like you think
[12:46] <oem> ?
[12:46] <SolidSource> oem: use run command and type "nvidia-settings"
[12:46] <oem> so how does it do it then?
[12:46] <oem> it did
[12:46] <oem> i did *
[12:47] <SolidSource> then it should bring up a window for ya
[12:47] <oem> link for pastebin please
[12:47] <SolidSource> ?
[12:47] <oem> a generic one yes but not the window i neeed
[12:47] <SolidSource> !pastebin
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:48] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10177/
[12:48] <SolidSource> oem: hmm ok, well it should work anyway if you changed your xorg.conf file right
[12:49] <oem> you looking at the link?
[12:50] <SolidSource> yes
[12:50] <jake__> hi everybody, anybody using here the CREOX?
[12:50] <miltos> very strange as movie player and kaffeine plays well all media video files, but VLC plays them with no sound...
[12:50] <oem> i do not know how to change xorg.conf file
[12:50] <SolidSource> oem: and nvidia-glx installed correctly with linux-restricted-modules?
[12:51] <oem> yes i installed the nvidia glx correctly got my game to play in three d however it isnt rerndering fast enough isnt using any ram.....and i have plenty
[12:51] <gemidjy> I delete ~/.mozilla and yet firefox gets the old settings...strange
[12:52] <baz> how do you get adept to install aditional packages? i need to install g++ and other development tools but it cant find them
[12:52] <gemidjy> baz: build-essentians
[12:52] <SolidSource> oem: lol well using the driver from nvidia's site won't help
[12:52] <gemidjy> baz: *build-essentials
[12:53] <baz> sorry i dont understand?
[12:53] <SolidSource> oem: well check your xorg.conf file (commnad to access = kdesu kate "/etc/X11/xorg.conf")
[12:53] <SolidSource> oem: ensure that "nv" is changed to "nvidia"
[12:55] <jake__> help guys ive installed the creox guitar fx, but it seems that its not functioning
[12:56] <blindside> hey guys  im using syslinux and its failing because it cant recognize "mcopy"
[12:56] <blindside> it says command no found
[12:59] <oem> is that sudo kdesu  ?
[12:59] <oem> is that sudo kdesu
[12:59] <SolidSource> oem: no, just kdesu
[12:59] <oem> in terminal or run
[01:00] <SolidSource> oem: sudo is for command line and kdesu is for graphical
[01:00] <SolidSource> either or command is the same
[01:00] <SolidSource> kdesu = to run graphical app as SU
[01:04] <oem> would that be the same as going to monitor and system settings then clicking on admin then click on hardware ?
[01:04] <oem> becasue kdesu doesnt bring anything up
[01:04] <SolidSource> oem: actually no
[01:06] <oem> ok then let me reboot and see if the kdesu works then
[01:06] <SolidSource> oem: dont' reboot
[01:06] <oem> ok
[01:07] <SolidSource> oem: just crtl+alt+backspace
[01:07] <SolidSource> ctrl*
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> reboot == windows
[01:11] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10179/
[01:11] <oem> i need to run for about 30 min i will be back
[01:12] <SolidSource> lol
[01:12] <SolidSource> that was all one command
[01:12] <oem> yeah
[01:12] <oem> one command
[01:12] <SolidSource> no that was only a piece of the command
[01:12] <oem> what do you mean
[01:13] <SolidSource> copy whats in quotes and paste into konsole "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:15] <BruceLeeds> Hallo alle: Wenn ich eine Kubuntu-CD brenne aus einem Iso, muss ich die CD dann als bootable brennen?
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> !de | BruceLeeds
[01:15] <ubotu> BruceLeeds: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:15] <BruceLeeds> sorry - wrong channel ;-) mixed it up
[01:16] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10181/
[01:16] <oem> brb
[01:16] <pinguin_> hallo allerseits
[01:19] <pinguin_> jemand hier, der mir mit einer Frage zu sylog weiterhelfen kann
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> !de | pinguin_
[01:20] <ubotu> pinguin_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:20] <rickvanniekerk> How do I get widescreen support in Kubuntu_
[01:20] <SolidSource> LOL
[01:20] <rickvanniekerk> ?
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> rickvanniekerk: do you mean HD or 1280X800?
[01:21] <SolidSource> rickvanniekerk: I just went into kcontrol and selected the right resolution....thats all its based off anyway
[01:21] <rickvanniekerk> nosrednaekim: 1280x800
[01:21] <SolidSource> !fonts
[01:21] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> rickvanniekerk: whats your video card?
[01:23] <rickvanniekerk> SolidSource: i915 I think
[01:23] <miltos> how do i put the trash bin on my desktop?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> !915resolution
[01:24] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> rickvanniekerk: ^^^^
[01:24] <rickvanniekerk> nosrednaekim: thx
[01:26] <frtmonster> hi, how can i disable my laptop's touchpad?
[01:28] <miltos> how do i put the trash bin on my desktop?
[01:29] <fdoving> miltos: you can follow http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/
[01:30] <miltos> fdoving, thanks
[01:33] <bentob0x> I have a DNS-323 on the network and I'm on Kubuntu, when I use accents ( etc.), it works fine on my machine but once a file with accents is copied onto the DNS, it gets stange characters onto it
[01:33] <bentob0x> the DNS-323 has samba on it
[01:33] <bentob0x> it seems to work fine when accessing a file via a windows machine
[01:35] <smile> hello linux world
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[01:35] <miltos> fdonving, yes now i have a trash on my desktop...thank you again very helpful indeed!!!!
[01:36] <frojnd> wasssssssaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppp
[01:36] <frojnd> :)
[01:36] <frojnd> I have problem with mms protocol
[01:36] <smile> i've a problem with Beryl inkubuntu dapper, i installed it but it freeze all widow & i cant see decoration of windows ... any help plz ?????
[01:36] <frojnd> my path is set to /usr/bin/vlc
[01:36] <frojnd> but vlc can't play vmw..
[01:36] <frojnd> how can I set for vmw formats for mplayer..
[01:37] <smile> frojnd: wmv not vmw !!
[01:38] <smile> frojnd: it's a format specified to windows .. u can just hear voice .. no video .. right ?
[01:38] <frojnd> anyway it doesn't play when I click on a link..
[01:38] <rickvanniekerk> nosrednaekim: I can't find the 915resolution pack
[01:38] <frojnd> yes,,, just voice
[01:38] <frojnd> and for that  I wanna set mms protocol to mplayer..
[01:38] <xenalise> I hate silly little bugs
[01:38] <frojnd> just don't know where is mplayer P
[01:38] <SolidSource> smile: beryl doesn't work with dapper, XGL works in edgy and beryl and xgl both work in feisty....one reason is xserver and the other is kernel
[01:39] <xenalise> beryl works in edgy
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> rickvanniekerk: do you have universe repositories enabled?
[01:39] <xenalise> I've had it running before
[01:39] <xenalise> Quite nicely too :P
[01:39] <smile> SolidSource: but AIXGL workded fine .. but just beryl freeze my windows
[01:40] <smile> frojnd: u want play mms radio internet ?
[01:40] <rickvanniekerk> nosrednaekim: I don't know. How do I check it?
[01:40] <frojnd> smile: mms videos...
[01:40] <SolidSource> smile: yes, xgl does work, but beryl is different and very unstable
[01:40] <frojnd> smile: mms://wmedia.siol.net/glasbeni_video_spoti/moby_and_mylene_farmer-sliping_away.wmv
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> !universe | rickvanniekerk
[01:41] <smile> frojnd: u can play it via Firefox ?
[01:41] <ubotu> rickvanniekerk: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:41] <frojnd> smile: how ?
[01:41] <smile> SolidSource: but Compiz too dont work to me :-(
[01:41] <smile> SolidSource: it works with Edgy !
[01:42] <smile> frojnd: follow me ...
[01:42] <SolidSource> smile: beryl and compiz are essencially the same...
[01:42] <frojnd> smile: be my guide
[01:42] <SolidSource> smile: again dapper doesn't have the kernel nor xserver versions that edgy gets
[01:43] <smile> frojnd: (1.) Open Firefox, type "about:config" (no quotes) in the address window, and click enter.
[01:43] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:43] <smile> SolidSource: so ? no solution to run Compiz or Beryl ? :-(
[01:43] <smile> frojnd: (2.) Right click on the window and choose <New>, then <String> from the pop-up menu that appears.
[01:44] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:44] <SolidSource> smile: none for dapper that I know of, edgy has work arounds
[01:44] <smile> frojnd: (3.) In the first pop-up box, enter: "network.protocol-handler.app.mms" (no quotes,
[01:44] <bumzo> !ntfs
[01:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:44] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:45] <smile> frojnd:  and it might just be easier to cut 'n paste this into the box).
[01:45] <smile> SolidSource: ok .. i should forget so ?!
[01:45] <frojnd> "this" ?
[01:45] <frojnd> ah.. u mean networt.protocol
[01:46] <SolidSource> smile: that or upgrade
[01:46] <frojnd> I copy paste it, smile
[01:46] <smile> frojnd: (4.) In the next pop-up box enter the path to Kaffeine (e.g. "/usr/bin/kaffaine").
[01:46] <SolidSource> smile with feisty coming, upgrade is good
[01:46] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:46] <smile> SolidSource: if i upgrade Dapper .. it becomes Edgy ?
[01:47] <frojnd> what e.g. means
[01:47] <smile> frojnd: (5.) Now, click in the main window again but choose <New> <Boolean>
[01:47] <rickvanniekerk> !915resolution
[01:47] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[01:47] <SolidSource> smile: yes, feisty isn't released yet
[01:47] <SolidSource> !dist-upgrade
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:47] <SolidSource> !upgrade
[01:47] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:48] <smile> SolidSource: but i will get a problem .. my ADSL modem is not supported to Edgy .. just Dapper :-(
[01:48] <smile> frojnd: (6.) In the first pop-up box, enter: "network.protocol-handler.external.mms"
[01:48] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:48] <smile> frojnd: (7.) In the second pop-up select <True>.
[01:48] <SolidSource> smile: well if you must have it, you might get lucky with searching
[01:49] <frojnd> smile: done
[01:49] <smile> frojnd: 8 .. that's all ;-) ..  try to play
[01:49] <frojnd> :>
[01:49] <frojnd> ok
[01:49] <smile> SolidSource: i searched for 1 month .. it'sn't supported to the kernel of Edgy
[01:50] <frojnd> smile: I click on a link but no kaffeine starts nor new window or anything..
[01:50] <SolidSource> smile: was meaning searching for beryl work arounds
[01:50] <smile> frojnd: u have kaffein in ur computer ?
[01:51] <frojnd> ofocures, smile
[01:51] <smile> SolidSource: i found a howto that says that Beryl isn't stable with Dapper
[01:51] <frtmonster> how can i disable my laptop's touchpad?
[01:51] <SolidSource> smile: yeah, its not all that stable in edgy either, though it works for the most part in it
[01:52] <smile> frojnd: really i dont know what happen ... i had the same problem but i solved it like that !!!
[01:52] <smile> frojnd: now i can play mms protocole fine
[01:52] <frojnd> that's strange, I thought it was the path, but kaffeine is in /usr/binkaffeine :s
[01:52] <frojnd> hm hm
[01:52] <smile> SolidSource: what u have in ur computer ?
[01:53] <frojnd> /usr/bin/kaffeine*
[01:53] <smile> SolidSource: Compiz or beryl ?
[01:53] <SolidSource> smile: beryl
[01:53] <smile> SolidSource: Dapper or Edgy or feizy ?
[01:53] <SolidSource> smile: edgy
[01:54] <smile> frojnd: try to replace /usr/bin/kaffeine by /usr/bin/vlc
[01:54] <smile> SolidSource: lucky one ;-p
[01:54] <smile> SolidSource: thank u anyway :-)
[01:56] <smile> frojnd: so ??
[01:56] <rickvanniekerk> Why can't I chose 1200x800 in kcontrol, when It's listed in xorg.conf?
[01:56] <rickvanniekerk> !mp3
[01:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:57] <miltos> i don't have sound on VLC player...any ideas?
[01:57] <frojnd> smile: vlc opens but no video
[01:57] <frojnd> even no music so far :)
[01:58] <miltos> vlc opens video:yes, sound:no
[02:00] <rickvanniekerk> Why can't I chose 1200x800 in kcontrol, when It's listed in xorg.conf?
[02:00] <smile> frojnd: try this (mms://stream.mosaiquefm.net/mosaique64k) and tell me if u hear music .. it's the tunisian radio
[02:01] <frojnd> smile: it's no music
[02:01] <smile> frojnd: u hear radio ?
[02:02] <frojnd> smile: mo..
[02:02] <frojnd> no, nothing smile
[02:02] <ecetahmaz> has got any virtual machine program at linux
[02:03] <smile> frojnd: try this (mms://vip6.yacast.fr/encodercheriefm )
[02:04] <frojnd> smile, tha same as other
[02:04] <smile> frojnd: r u sure that u followed instructions correctly ?
[02:04] <frojnd> yes :)
[02:04] <frojnd> I am sure
[02:04] <smile> frojnd: be sure too that ur internet connection is working fine !
[02:05] <smile> frojnd: i will stop here ... this should work !!!
[02:05] <frojnd> smile: I'll try to reinstall kaffeine, couse lately I have some problems with it
[02:05] <ecetahmaz> i need acrobat writer or similar program for linux..... is any body know?
[02:06] <frojnd> and set path to /usr/bin/kaffeine
[02:06] <smile> frojnd: u have amarok ?
[02:06] <bxnp> scribus ecetahmaz
[02:06] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: sudo apt-get install acroread
[02:06] <bentob0x> how can I make my konsole prompt: user@localhost:~$  in a different color?
[02:06] <frojnd> smile: yes
[02:06] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: oh writer......openoffice can write PDFs
[02:06] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10181/
[02:06] <ecetahmaz> soidsource: cheers
[02:06] <smile> frojnd: try to replace kaffaine by amarok and try to play the  last radio
[02:07] <smile> frojnd: /usr/bin/amarok
[02:07] <SolidSource> oem: change "nv" to "nvidia" where present and then save and then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:07] <smile> frojnd: & play the radio in firefox
[02:07] <ecetahmaz> solidsource; i`m trying now
[02:08] <frojnd> smile: nothing happens
[02:08] <oem> ok
[02:08] <frojnd> smile: something is happeninc..
[02:09] <smile> frojnd: what ?  buffering ?
[02:09] <frojnd> something like that
[02:09] <smile> frojnd: u should wait buffering some seconds !!
[02:10] <miltos> what's the default path for x11 cursor?
[02:10] <frojnd> I have to go, lunch
[02:12] <rickvanniekerk> What program does Kubuntu use to connect to Wirless networks?
[02:12] <SolidSource> rickvanniekerk: knetworkmanager or wassistant
[02:12] <oem> this one to?    Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] "
[02:13] <SolidSource> oem: anywhere that "nv" apears alone change to "nvidia"
[02:13] <oem> ok
 I couldnt openoffice with the PDF. It is ascii code
[02:19] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: hmm try what bxnp said then ...scribus...or try searching in adept/synaptic for pdf writer
[02:20] <ecetahmaz> solidsource: thanx i will go 4 it
[02:21] <SolidSource> who says you can't have your way....blackdown and nspluginwrapper is my new friend
[02:23] <senwei> hi all
[02:24] <bxnp> ecetahmaz: http://www.scribus.net/
[02:26] <pinguin_> #linux
[02:26] <bxnp> ecetahmaz: did you visit the link
[02:26] <Zaden> Is it worth download the 4 gig amd iso from torrent
[02:27] <Zaden> or just the basic live cd
[02:27] <SolidSource> Zaden: for the most part...the CD is fine
[02:27] <jeffto> Hi everybody
[02:27] <pinguin_> Hi
[02:28] <bxnp> Zaden: what kind of iso you are want to download
[02:29] <jeffto> I've a question related to setup kubuntu edgy local hour, I have another operative sistem installed but kubuntu's hour never is the right hour of my country, how I can reconfigure that, I think that when I installed I don't use the right option for hour
[02:30] <ecetahmaz> bxnp not yet i`m going to o now
[02:30] <bxnp> oke and join #scribus on this server
[02:31] <bxnp> jeffto: right click on the clocl and reconfigure it
[02:32] <Zaden> the i386.iso  will install on a amd correct
[02:32] <faidillinger> hi there
[02:32] <fdoving> Zaden: correct.
[02:32] <faidillinger> can somebody tell me how do i recompile my kernel ( i need some audio with low latency ) with kubuntu edgy 6.10 ??
[02:33] <bxnp> and ecetahmaz was that what you whre looking for
[02:34] <jeffto> bxnp, yes but alway that I restart the hour changes
[02:34] <SolidSource> oem: working now?
[02:35] <yamal> jeffto: see the UTC option in /etc/default/rcS
[02:35] <jeffto> I'm ther, I active UTC=yes or not?
[02:36] <yamal> jeffto: if you have windows on your pc as well as linux, it should be "no" (because time is kept in localtime)
[02:36] <ecetahmaz> solid source & bxnp: scribus 1.3.3.7 release is ok?
[02:37] <jeffto> actually I found that this option is no....
[02:37] <fuel>  how do i move read messages automatically to some other folder in kmail ?
[02:38] <jeffto> did I have to change some option on BIOS system?
[02:38] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: 1.3.3.8 looks to be the latest
[02:39] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: go here and add the repo and install that way
[02:39] <SolidSource> ecetahmaz: http://www.scribus.net/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=4&page=1
[02:41] <faidillinger> anyone knows how i can associate firefox with ktorrent so that when i click on a torrent file it launches ktorrent ??
[02:45] <miltos> is out there any good RSS reader?
[02:46] <SolidSource> !akregator
[02:46] <ubotu> akregator: RSS feed aggregator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 669 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[02:46] <SolidSource> akregator is built in
[02:46] <PhinnFort> !prevu
[02:46] <ubotu> prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[02:47] <miltos> SolidSource, akregator doen't show messages on the desktop...
[02:48] <SolidSource> miltos: I don't use RSS, so wouldn't know anything else
[02:49] <delphine> ok, do threats work here? ;)
[02:49] <delphine> ie. if I don't solve my problem, i am back to the dark side of the force...
[02:49] <delphine> hello all
[02:49] <delphine> I am at a loss as to what is wrong with my brand new install of kubuntu
[02:50] <delphine> usb does not work
[02:50] <delphine> and network works once out of twice
[02:51] <delphine> please save me :)
[02:53] <sergio> Hola
[02:56] <ccc> faidillinger: i don't use firefox, but it's probably somewhere in prefs > mime types -- something
[02:56] <faidillinger> ccc: tanks a lot, i already found out how to do this
[02:56] <faidillinger> google is our friend
[02:56] <ccc> excellent
[02:56] <delphine> I've been googling for three days
[02:57] <delphine> to no avail :(
[02:59] <ecetahmaz> solidsource cheers
[03:02] <alanhaggai> I need to run a script when the router gets an IP. How to do it?
[03:04] <jhutchins> delphine: more helpful to know what does happen than what doesn't.
[03:05] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: I think you might find what you need in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ipup or something like that.
[03:06] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Have a look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Diald-HOWTO.html for possible examples.
[03:06] <alanhaggai> jhutchins:  Let me try that :)
[03:06] <alanhaggai> But I am using broadband with a router. And so is it PPP?
[03:07] <alanhaggai> I have no idea regarding this.
[03:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning All :)
[03:07] <alanhaggai> BluesKaj: Good morning :)
[03:07] <SolidSource> blueskaj: run run away!!
[03:07] <BluesKaj> what's the prob SS ? :)
[03:08] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: It may not be PPP, usually not with broadband unless it's DSL.
[03:08] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Mine is ADSL. Likewise, I have no /etc/sysconfig/
[03:09] <SolidSource> blueskaj: lol you'll see
[03:09] <BluesKaj> geez , gimme a break , on my first coffee here :)
[03:11] <genii> BluesKaj :)
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ho genii :)
[03:12] <BluesKaj> err hi genii
[03:12] <BluesKaj> :_)
[03:12] <genii> BluesKaj LOL thas alrite... I haven't left since I saw you here last... coffee is keeping me going right now too
[03:14] <simo__> hi!
[03:14] <simo__> i am using feisty, and have problems updating hotkey-setup
[03:14] <simo__> does anyone else have the same problem?
[03:15] <Jucato> simo__: try #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <simo__> i'm sorry jucato, didn't understand
[03:17] <simo__> ah, ok
[03:17] <Jucato> simo__: try asking in #ubuntu+1 it's the channel for feisty
[03:17] <simo__> slow today :)
[03:17] <Prollc> how can i setup firefox on kubuntu ?
[03:18] <bentob0x> when changing the UID and GID of a user, there is only two places where to do that yes?
[03:18] <bentob0x> I mean using vigr and vipw
[03:19] <ecetahmaz> i will download http://www.scribus.net/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=4&page=1
[03:19] <BluesKaj> wow, genii ...a dedicated person you are :)
[03:19] <bentob0x> Prollc: have a look at your repositories
[03:19] <ecetahmaz> is tht right one?
[03:19] <genii> BluesKaj: Nah just up all night working and so why not have the computer on here as well
[03:20] <alanhaggai> I need to run a script when the router gets an IP. How to do it? I am on ADSL connection.
[03:21] <acemo> Prollc: open konsole, then type  "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[03:22] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Sorry, that's where the systems I run keep the network info.  Ubuntu appears to have abandoned that convention and I don't know where to tell you.  That diald howto probably won't work for you either, given that the normal, text-based network configuration doesn't seem to exist.  Maybe it's in the registry.
[03:23] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Sorry to ask more questions. But where can I access the Kubuntu registry?
[03:23] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Sorry, that's a joke.
[03:23] <alanhaggai> I see :))
[03:23] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: I'm hoping to prod someone who knows where the configuration is hidden.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> right on genii, ya work shifts eh ?
[03:24] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Thank you. Do PM or announce with my name here. I will search for it also.
[03:24] <genii> BluesKaj Well from home but yeah
[03:24] <mjunx> registry? look in /etc
[03:24] <BluesKaj> cool genii
[03:25] <mjunx> or if using gnome, gconf is the registry-wannabe lol
[03:25] <alanhaggai> I am using KDE.
[03:25] <jhutchins> mjunx: Where are the scripts that run when network interfaces come up?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> genii, yer in toronto right ?
[03:25] <mjunx> although, all kde settings are in ~/.kde/share/config/
[03:25] <mjunx> hrm
[03:25] <genii> BluesKaj Yup :)
[03:25] <mjunx> using the normal ifupdown stuff?
[03:25] <jhutchins> mjunx: Yeah, ifup, ifdown.
[03:26] <mjunx> in /etc/network/*.d/
[03:26] <alanhaggai> Let me try that.
[03:26] <mjunx> plus anything you defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:27] <alanhaggai> Ok.
[03:28] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Looks like you can link a script to the /etc/network/*.d directories and they'll be triggered.
[03:29] <alanhaggai> Be right back. Just going to reconnect and see if the script is executing or not.
[03:29] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Yes I think. I have put a script there. I will be back to tell you if it worked or not.
[03:29] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: You should put the script in /usr/etc and link it to the appropriate location.
[03:30] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Why is it so?
[03:31] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: Won't it be possible if I copy the script to /etc/network/if-up.d/   ?
[03:32] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Either one I guess, *.d files are only supposed to contain links, but ubuntu seems to ignore that too.
[03:32] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Just a matter of keeping things properly organized.
[03:32] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: I see. I am new to Linux. So no idea of the conventions used.
[03:32] <Zapt> hi there, i am looking for somebody who can register me a gmail account since i am from germany
[03:33] <alanhaggai> Zapt: Not a channel for that. Anyway, PM me if you want one.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> gmail is blocked in germany?
[03:33] <alanhaggai> Is it?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> how do they know you are in germany. :) use that TOR thing to get around that if they are doing it that way
[03:33] <Zapt> yes
[03:33] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: I read somewhere that there is a trademark issue with Gmail.
[03:33] <Zapt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail
[03:33] <jhutchins> For instance, /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate should actually be in /etc/init.d, and symlinked to /etc/network/if-up.d/
[03:34] <Zapt> hmm have to register for private talk.. :(
[03:34] <Dr_willis> yet more Patent Trolling. :) heh.
[03:34] <mjunx> I thought the trademark issue was only in the UK
[03:34] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: There is a company named Gmail in Europe. So they are using Googlemail.
[03:34] <Dr_willis> iMail  :)
[03:34] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: It seems that I have a lot to learn. :)
[03:34] <mjunx> they should've just given everyone an @google.com email like yahoo does lol
[03:34] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: So do I.
[03:35] <Dr_willis> i use Linuxmail.org :)
[03:35] <alanhaggai> jhutchins: By the way, I am the chairman of the FLOSS cell at college. So need to study more of this interesting OS.
[03:35] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: Great!
[03:36] <jhutchins> alanhaggai: I would make it a future goal to also study one of the RPM based distros as well.  They do some more SysV Unix compliant things.
[03:36] <alanhaggai> I see.
[03:36] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Thanks for noting Linuxmail. I am registering one.
[03:36] <alanhaggai> :)
[03:36] <BluesKaj>  does VLC use xine?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  its not a 'big' company. :) so a lot of the sites that dont allow gmail or hotmail, for their email registerations - let linuxmail through
[03:37] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  NO.
[03:38] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: I see. But it's nice to show that you are a Linux supporter. I need it. :)
[03:38] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  yea. the site is useable.. i set the wife and so forth up on it..
[03:39] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Wife? I didn't get that.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  the wife and kids are all ysing linuxmail instead of hotmail now
[03:40] <mjunx> BluesKaj, VLC, xine, and MPlayer all have common underlying libraries (ffmpeg's libavcodec, libavutil, libavformat, libpostproc, and others)
[03:40] <smile> BluesKaj: i think VNC use his own libs .. xine is used by amarok Mplayer, kaffeine
[03:41] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Very nice. Hope they have POP support.
[03:41] <mjunx> and FFmpeg is developed by MPlayer
[03:41] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  never noticed.  check out        http://www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com also - to freak people out
[03:41] <Dr_willis> gotta love LONG email addresses
[03:41] <smile> BluesKaj: try to uninstall libxine and u will see the depencenscies !!
[03:41] <Dr_willis> bah - site seems down
[03:41] <mjunx> or just run ldd on the executable ;)
[03:42] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis:  That is a link! ;)
[03:42] <ant1matter> im running beryl on kubuntu 64bit - runs great. anyone know the kde screenshot command? its using gnome's
[03:43] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  yea - it seems tobe down at the moment however.
[03:43] <mjunx> ksnapshot is the program
[03:43] <Aragami> hello guys. i just installed kubuntu on my laptop but somehow internet doesnt work (its connected to the router)
[03:43] <smile> ant1matter: wich kubuntu do u use ?
[03:43] <ant1matter> mjunx: thanks
[03:43] <ant1matter> smile: edgy
[03:43] <BluesKaj> not a real fan of the VLC plugin for FF , it blocks the mplayer from running windows media on a lotta sites . I dumped the VLC plugin
[03:43] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Yes. Down now.
[03:44] <Zapt> Aragami: How do you connect?
[03:44] <Aragami> i think eth0 is inactive, but i dunno where i could change that
[03:44] <Zapt> wireless or ethernet?
[03:44] <smile> ant1matter: wich video card u have ?
[03:44] <Zapt> Aragami: go to the console and type: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[03:45] <Zapt> Aragami: is the driver installed?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  and for somthing competly differnt ------>  http://chumby.com
[03:45] <ant1matter> onboard nvidia - nforce 6100 256mb
[03:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:46] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Cool :)
[03:46] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  neat gizmo. but not for sale yet. :(
[03:46] <Knightlust> Aragami: could you try issuing this command: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[03:46] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: I see. Got to get one ;)
[03:46] <ant1matter> smile: onboard nvidia - nforce 6100 256mb
[03:47] <Knightlust> eth0 may be disabled because you haven't started your network
[03:47] <Aragami> Zapt: "sudo..." got no error msg so i guess that worked
[03:47] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  yep. the latest Popular Science had a little artical on them... reminded me of them.. i was all set to order one.
[03:47] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  to set by the wifes bed. :)
[03:47] <Zapt> just type ifconfig
[03:47] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: Nice of you. :)
[03:47] <Aragami> the sysconfig tool lists my laptops wlan and ethernet chip, but both are inactive
[03:47] <Dr_willis> then i can Page her and wake her **!&!! up in the morning!
[03:48] <Zapt> Aragami: Strange, then activate them!
[03:48] <Aragami> where
[03:49] <Aragami> or how
[03:49] <Knightlust> Aragami: try enabling here: K > System Settings > Network Settings
[03:49] <Knightlust> then just click on the Administrator Mode button then enter your login password
[03:49] <Knightlust> then click eth0 then click on Enable Interface
[03:49] <Knightlust> good luck
[03:49] <Aragami> eth0 is active now, but still no internet
[03:50] <KomiaPoika> hi, cups says my printer is not ready, and when i try to start it, it asks for login and password. i put in login and password from root, but it refuses it. whats wrong?
[03:51] <Knightlust> Aragami: restart your network by sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:51] <Aragami> i cannot access the values under "System Settings > Network Settings" btw. - seems weird
[03:51] <ecetahmaz> : http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/mrdocs/ is for suse....... i am using kubuntu... and i dont know whick link i need to download. has got a lot
[03:51] <Knightlust> yeah, you have to click on the Adminstrator mode button
[03:52] <Aragami> hmm...
[03:52] <Aragami> dont see it
[03:52] <Knightlust> scroll down
[03:52] <Knightlust> it's at the bottom right corner of the window
[03:52] <Aragami> ohh
[03:52] <Aragami> crap
[03:52] <Aragami> why can't it resize properly
[03:52] <Aragami> :/
[03:52] <Aragami> k, thx man
[03:52] <Knightlust> yeah, happens to me too
[03:53] <Knightlust> give us updates ayt...
[03:53] <ecetahmaz> http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/ is that right link. because it is writing for suse ..... not for kubuntu
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Aragami,  ive noticed that issue also - depending on hwo the program gets launched.
[03:56] <Aragami> hm
[03:56] <Aragami> eth0 is now active and has an ip via dhcp, but still, no internet
[03:57] <Knightlust> Aragami: could you try surfing to the GUI of your router
[03:57] <Knightlust> if you can surf through the router GUI, then the problem is with the router
[03:58] <Aragami> yes, no prob connecting to the router
[03:58] <Knightlust> as long as you can open the home page
[03:58] <Knightlust> hmmm
[03:58] <Knightlust> then it should be the router
[03:58] <Knightlust> wait, could you try surfing via IP address?
[03:58] <Aragami> don't think so
[03:58] <genii> interesting, in offtopic, this jus popped up a minute ago but sees like not here or #ubuntu   <ubotu>	New on planetubuntu: Mark Van den Borre: Dell asks us which distro to support <http://blog.markvdb.be/2007/03/dell-asks-us-which-distro-to-support.html>
[03:58] <Knightlust> it might be the DNS server listed on your laptop
[03:59] <Knightlust> also try pingin out
[03:59] <Knightlust> *pinging
[03:59] <genii> ^For those interested in convincing Dell to go Ubuntu ^
[04:00] <mjunx> make them interested in kubuntu
[04:00] <genii> mjunx :)
[04:01] <mjunx> I've got a good reason also, hold on
[04:01] <ecetahmaz> i`m lost, if the conversation about acrobat writer please s.body let me know........... :)
[04:02] <mjunx> http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/whats-your-linux-whine/
[04:02] <mjunx> most of the problems people whined about were exclusive to gnome
[04:02] <mjunx> so, I think it's safe to say that gnome just ain't ready for the desktop ;p
[04:02] <mjunx> but kde is
[04:03] <Knightlust> mjunx: flame bait
[04:03] <Knightlust> hehe
[04:03] <mjunx> eh?
[04:03] <genii> mjunx: I took the survey But they don't differentiate there between Ubuntu/Kubuntu.
[04:03] <mjunx> oh, hmm
[04:03] <genii> (on the Dell site)
[04:04] <mjunx> make a new suggestion then
[04:04] <mjunx> "Preinstall Kubuntu Linux on Dell Computers"
[04:06] <smile> hello all the world ... i have bewan adsl modem .. i cant run it on Edgy ... any help or HOWTO plz ????????????????????????????
[04:06] <BluesKaj> anyone using FF2.0.0.2 ?
[04:07] <genii> mjunx: Take the survey yourself and do it
[04:07] <mjunx> meh
[04:08] <genii> "Evil prospers when good men do nothing"
[04:08] <mjunx> I wouldn't buy from dell anyways
[04:09] <Knightlust> mjunx: me too. price is pretty steep
[04:09] <mjunx> and quality is low
[04:09] <Knightlust> but my former company buys from them.. they trust dell with their life
[04:09] <mjunx> they're almost like the walmart of computers
[04:09] <Knightlust> tell me about it
[04:09] <mjunx> except they do offer higher quality machines, they're overpriced
[04:10] <Knightlust> they've overlooked quality on consumer desktops
[04:11] <mjunx> and that word, "consumer", is offensive
[04:11] <bentob0x> when using an NFS network share, how to mount it and use a specific user to work on it?
[04:11] <mjunx> it's a marketdroid word invented to replace more sufficient words like "customer", or "potential customer", or "user", or "client", or other words that don't melt everyone into some faceless sheep of sorts
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I'll ask once more ...anyone running Firefox 2.0.0.2 and having problems ?
[04:12] <Knightlust> hehehe
[04:12] <mjunx> no problems heres, blue
[04:12] <bentob0x> everything's fine BluesKaj
[04:12] <Knightlust> BluesKaj: none here
[04:12] <mjunx> er, BluesKaj
[04:12] <Knightlust> even extensions
[04:12] <BluesKaj> ok , just downloaded and about to install so i thought I'd ask first
[04:13] <bentob0x> yep all fine here on 2.0.0.2
[04:13] <bentob0x> oh wait
[04:13] <bentob0x> ..
[04:13] <BluesKaj> thx gents :)
[04:13] <bentob0x> (only joking)
[04:13] <bentob0x> np
[04:13] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:13] <Knightlust> bentob0x: you're scaring him
[04:13] <Knightlust> hehehe
[04:13] <bentob0x> :D
[04:13] <bentob0x> anybody good on NFS here?
[04:13] <bentob0x> papa smurf seems away
[04:14] <bentob0x> smurphy_: can I annoy you a bit more about NFS?
[04:16] <easytiger> how come konsole in beryl (and only konsole) will not resize, and when you do it bounces back to screen height?
[04:17] <JuJuBee> Need some help with a new install.  I bought components to build a new computer.  (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13, 2GB PC4200, 160GB HD, GeForece 6200 video).  Tried to install Ubuntu and it will not. The computer will boot with thelive CD, but when I try to install it fails figt after it loads the kernel.  Others on #ubuntu & here agree that it looks like after the kernel loads, it forgets how to read the CD drive.  I tried to remove the HD and install to 
[04:17] <JuJuBee> n, but it could not find a boot device on boot (even thought it booted the other computer).  I just installed windows on teh new computer to see if all hardware is working and it is working fine.  Please help if you can...
[04:17] <easytiger> JuJuBee: have you tried knoppix/ windows boot cds?
[04:18] <easytiger> ahh sorry i just read that
[04:18] <JuJuBee> Not knoppix (dont have it)
[04:18] <Knightlust> JuJuBee: could you try using an Alternate CD.
[04:19] <Knightlust> at least it wont eat up a lot of resources while installing ubuntu
[04:19] <JuJuBee> Tried feisty 3/12/07, but that did not work either.
[04:19] <JuJuBee> Similar problem.
[04:19] <JuJuBee> Seems to not find the CD after the kernel loads.
[04:19] <JuJuBee> MoBo is INTEL DG965wh
[04:20] <san_> holas a todos
[04:21] <Knightlust> JuJuBee: have could you also try disabling some hardware you think might interfere
[04:21] <Knightlust> like parallel and serial: we dont need that
[04:22] <mjunx> hey, does knetworkmanager support wpa and wpa2?
[04:22] <JuJuBee> Haven't tried that.
[04:22] <jay> I have kiba-dock, 1-01... when I click on any launcher, kiba-dock refuses to hide
[04:22] <JuJuBee> Did disable floppy though, dont have one of those.
[04:22] <JuJuBee> I guess I will go try again...
[04:22] <Knightlust> hmmm... <think Knightlust! think!
[04:26] <Knightlust> JuJuBee: sorry, but right now, that's the only thing I can think off. disabling some features you dont need
[04:26] <kristjan_> what is the correct name of that thing I get then I press Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[04:27] <Jucato> tty1
[04:27] <Knightlust> also if you have two 1GB PC4200, try to install just one
[04:27] <kristjan_> Jucato: full name is?
[04:27] <bumzo> hi guys ...is there like an updated version of openoffice for kubuntu
[04:27] <Knightlust> if your mobo supports integrated video, also try using that, at least for troubleshooting purposes
[04:27] <Jucato> TeleTYpe? it's also called the (true/real) terminal or console
[04:27] <bumzo> this one loks like office 97 lol
[04:28] <Knightlust> JuJuBee: again, sorry, but that's all I could think off right now
[04:28] <JuJuBee> Kightlust: Ram is dual channel, dont I need 2?  Also, disabled floppy, serial, parallel and booted 6.10 nosplash  Got errors.
[04:29] <Knightlust> aaarrrggghhhh! why oh why! hmmm, let me think.
[04:30] <Knightlust> what's the error?
[04:30] <JuJuBee> [17179571.04000]  ACPI:getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3 and 0x4.  Also diabled ata2-ata4 (only 1 sata drive) then messages about unable to open '/root/var/log' no such file or dir ... Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init... BusyBox v1.1.3 stuff and then a prompt ...(initramfs)
[04:31] <JuJuBee> Looks like as soon as the kernel loads, it forgets about the dvd drive
[04:31] <Knightlust> aha! could you try disabling ACPI (or something like that) in the bios
[04:31] <JuJuBee> I cannot find a setting to disable it altogether.
[04:32] <Knightlust> looks like edgy's acpi is inompatible with your mobos acpi
[04:32] <JuJuBee> Only settings for stuff like wake on lan, what to do when power outage...
[04:32] <Knightlust> ok, lets see
[04:33] <JuJuBee> I tried to add acpi=off to boot param, but no luck.
[04:33] <Ashex|Work> well, I've effectively made my computer hacker proof
[04:33] <Knightlust> could you try damn small, its good at this kind of stuff. its only 50M
[04:33] <Knightlust> if you have the ime
[04:33] <Ashex|Work> nobody can run as root now!
[04:33] <Knightlust> *time
[04:33] <Ashex|Work> not even me!
[04:34] <Knightlust> while I try to think about it
[04:34] <Jucato> Ashex|Work: what happened?
[04:34] <JuJuBee> guess can download it
[04:34] <Ashex|Work> Jucato, I was playing with smb4k last night, and it decided to change my sudoers file
[04:34] <Jucato> ouch...
[04:34] <Ashex|Work> I get a syntax error when trying to use sudo
[04:34] <Knightlust> hee hee, Ashex|Work might've deleted your user login in sudoers
[04:35] <Knightlust> try fixing that using a live cd
[04:35] <Jucato> are  you still part of the "admin" group?
[04:35] <Ashex|Work> Yeah, that's the plan
[04:35] <Ashex|Work> I should be
[04:35] <Knightlust> just try adding your name on the sudoers file
[04:35] <acemo> when i click on the icon for the bluetooth headset, it asks me if i want to save or open with..
[04:35] <acemo> this tutorial says "A popup should request the PIN for the Headset from you (mostly "0000" or "1234")."
[04:35] <acemo> what could be wrong?
[04:35] <Ashex|Work> I was also thinking that just rebooting into recovery mode would work
[04:36] <Jucato> Ashex|Work: try it. check if you're not in the admin group. if you aren't, boot into recovery and add your user back
[04:37] <Ashex|Work> Jucato, I'll give that a shot
[04:38] <Ashex|Work> I was planning on waiting for Fiesty to reinstall, I don't really want to do it early :/
[04:39] <Ashex|Work> Jucato, what's the command to check from command-line?
[04:39] <Jucato> Ashex|Work: groups
[04:39] <Ashex|Work> yeah, I'm in the admin group
[04:39] <Jucato> hm... Knightlust your turn :)
[04:40] <jay> ed, once I typed it in myself cairo compiles successfully
[04:40] <kristjan_> what's the vga= for 1280x800 framebuffer, or does usplash only support standard 4:3 aspect ratio?
[04:40] <jay> there was a problem with the characters on the page that I copied from...
[04:41] <Ashex|Work> I'm pretty sure the sudoers file is just fubard
[04:41] <jay> once I typed it in myself cairo compiles successfully
[04:41] <bigdad1e> i need help.. how do i change the codecs of a video and audio so i can play it on kubuntu?
[04:41] <K-Ryan> You don't change them, you get the codecs.
[04:41] <Ashex|Work> !codecs
[04:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Thanks Ashex ;)
[04:42] <Ashex|Work> heh, no problem
[04:42] <Ashex|Work> I'm usually in here helping people, so I've got that bot figured out :p
[04:42] <K-Ryan> Yeah I help out too, just not lately.
[04:42] <bigdad1e> thanks
[04:42] <K-Ryan> Been on Windows gaming...
[04:42] <K-Ryan> I should really just get Wine
[04:43] <Ashex|Work> haha
[04:43] <Ashex|Work> I just hope nobody notices that I support unix users better then the people I work with :P
[04:43] <K-Ryan> Hah
[04:44] <K-Ryan> Well I don't know what kind of people you work with, but from what I've seen on here it's a friendly environment.
[04:44] <acemo> lol ashex
[04:44] <Knightlust> JuJuBee: accdg to the great wizard, I gave you a wrong information.. ACPI isn't interfering with the install or bootup process
[04:45] <jay> ok.... cairo dock works now I guess..... only ONE of the icons show though
[04:45] <JuJuBee> OK.
[04:45] <Ashex|Work> heh, I'm the helpdesk guy who does the basic support. Lately the tickets I get are just depressing
[04:45] <Knightlust> it seems that you have a pretty nice expensive hardware in your hands, and that I don't think the we have drivers for it
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Basic support for what?
[04:45] <acemo> internal helpdesk?
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Just curious
[04:45] <Knightlust> i just hope that kernel 2.6.20 has the drivers for that
[04:45] <Ashex|Work> Pretty much everything
[04:45] <JuJuBee> That will bite really hard...
[04:45] <Ashex|Work> I'm the internal helpdesk guy
[04:46] <K-Ryan> For what kind of company is what I meant =P
[04:46] <Ashex|Work> ah
[04:46] <Ashex|Work> Software dev company
[04:46] <Knightlust> now, if damnsmall also spits out errors, then you have to wait for a hack.
[04:46] <K-Ryan> Neat
[04:46] <JuJuBee> I treid to isntall feisty-alternate and it failed as well.  I think it uses 2.6.20?
[04:46] <acemo> internal helpdesk is alot better as the customers helpdesk =p
[04:46] <Ashex|Work> heh, yeah
[04:46] <Knightlust> yeah, it does use 2.6.20
[04:47] <Ashex|Work> Tech Support is near me, so I occasionally hear things from their end
[04:47] <JuJuBee> So now what can I do?
[04:47] <easytiger> whats the command line name for the kde screenshot utility?
[04:47] <Ashex|Work> ksnaphshot
[04:47] <Knightlust> damnsmall would be our judge... for now
[04:47] <Ashex|Work> er
[04:47] <Ashex|Work> ksnapshot
[04:47] <easytiger> Ashex|Work: sweet. thanks
[04:47] <JuJuBee> K, downloading as we speak.
[04:48] <Ashex|Work> easytiger, no problem :)
[04:48] <easytiger> i was too lazy to work it out
[04:48] <Knightlust> i'll do a few research on this if damnsmall doesnt work.. i'll just post it on the wiki site
[04:48] <acemo> best thing i learned today: understanding how :(){ :|:& };: exactly works :)
[04:48] <K-Ryan> I love my Kubuntu setup, but I find myself getting bored...
[04:48] <JuJuBee> I appreciate the assistance.
[04:49] <K-Ryan> Anyone have tips?
[04:49] <Knightlust> im currently downloading DG965wh's manuals
[04:49] <foxx> Having a problem with booting the Kubuntu LiveCD.  I remember having this issue before but cannot remember exactly what I had to do to fix it.
[04:49] <Ashex|Work> K-Ryan, superkaramba and beryl?
[04:49] <Knightlust> sorry, but at least you have a pretty fast and shiny hardware
[04:49] <Knightlust> lets just wait for damnsmall
[04:49] <K-Ryan> Don't know what superkaramba does but beryl lags my system.
[04:49] <foxx> the LiveCD boots to the menu and will start up Xorg, but as soon as the cursor's on the screen it just stops
[04:49] <K-Ryan> My processor is outdated, 1.8Ghz
[04:50] <foxx> It also does not alow keyboard input so I can't switch to a terminal
[04:50] <JuJuBee> Yea, all rev'd up with no place to go... ;-)
[04:50] <Ashex|Work> ah
[04:50] <acemo> K-Ryan, thanks.. mine is 1.66ghz :(
[04:50] <Ashex|Work> Superkaramba is basically desktop widgets
[04:50] <foxx> I seem to remember there were a few boot options I had to put on to get it to get to the login screen but I don't remember what it was
[04:50] <K-Ryan> acemo well I never said it was bad, just outdated.
[04:51] <K-Ryan> I mean hearing about dual processors and stuff, kicking out a total of over 4Ghz
[04:51] <acemo> mm
[04:51] <K-Ryan> Kind of puts things into perspective.
[04:51] <acemo> with dual core, u dont add up the ghz of both core
[04:51] <acemo> cuz most programs dont handle dual core that well
[04:52] <K-Ryan> Okay but not all of them use just one proccessor.
[04:52] <bomberos> he algun en espaol
[04:52] <K-Ryan> So both are used, no?
[04:52] <K-Ryan> !espanol
[04:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:52] <foxx> So, no ideas?
[04:53] <acemo> some programs can use both cores yes, but i dont know any program that can spread out the processes perfectly yet
[04:53] <K-Ryan> No, like each program is dedicated to one core.
[04:53] <K-Ryan> So each core get's its own share of work.
[04:53] <K-Ryan> dedicated was a bad word, assigned works better
[04:53] <Ashex|Work> pretty much
[04:53] <K-Ryan> So why wouldn't you add the Ghz?
[04:53] <Ashex|Work> even if a program isn't designed to use both cores. When you launch a program, it will use one or the other
[04:53] <foxx> Because you aren't combining processing power on one problem
[04:54] <foxx> It's still moving at the same speed
[04:54] <foxx> Ghz != power
[04:54] <Ashex|Work> as opposed to a single-core when all programs will use up a portion of available processing power
[04:54] <foxx> Only the speed of the clock.  You just have two of them, they are not added.
[04:54] <bomberos> he eh algien me puede ayudar
[04:55] <foxx> The best use of multiple-core systems is for multi-threaded applications
[04:55] <K-Ryan> !espanol | bomberos
[04:55] <ubotu> bomberos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:55] <JuJuBee> Knightlust : ok, tried to bood dsl 3.2.  Failed...Can't find knoppix filessystem.  dropping you to very limited shell, press reset to quit.
[04:55] <acemo> there are things that can work out good on dual core, but other thing (a program that requires ALOT of the cpu but is not multi-threaded) a fast single core is better for
[04:55] <K-Ryan> So let me get this straight. If I had two 1.8Ghz processors, there would be no difference?
[04:55] <Knightlust> JuJuBee, again, I'm sorry you have to go through all this.. but you have the most modern hardware i've ever come across
[04:56] <foxx> A perfect example of multiple-core processing is the Xbox 360.  Three PowerPC cores, all of them pumping out a few Ghz, but the way you use it is in spreading out multiple threads for a single program across them
[04:56] <Knightlust> just wait for a hack, if damnsmall wont boot, then no other distros would boot
[04:56] <foxx> K-Ryan: Depends
[04:56] <JuJuBee> So, can you suggest a different mobo?  I can probably get it swapped out.
[04:56] <K-Ryan> Yeah I didn't really clarify there...
[04:56] <acemo> K-Ryan, if you had 2 processors on 1 mainboard, it works slower as a dual core cpu
[04:56] <foxx> K-Ryan: Most often you will not.  Instead you will see a much more balanced performance,
[04:56] <Knightlust> sorry, im not really good at hardware
[04:56] <JuJuBee> I just want it to work.
[04:57] <Knightlust> anyone here who can help out JuJuBee?
[04:57] <Knightlust> dual-core supported mobo that has been tested out with ubuntu
[04:57] <foxx> K-Ryan: The ONLY way to see a performance increase is if the program you are trying to run supports SMP or multi-threading
[04:57] <K-Ryan> So if I were to get a new processor for gaming, would you reccomend a dual core, or just a high Ghz single?
[04:57] <foxx> K-Ryan: At the moment a multiple-core is a good thing due to low (relative) cost.
[04:58] <bigdad1e> can i get vlc on kubuntu?
[04:58] <Knightlust> better research on that JuJuBee
[04:58] <K-Ryan> But if the program doesn't support two at a time, it defeats the purpose of having two, no?
[04:58] <foxx> K-Ryan: The Core2Duo does a great job with Single pass instructions, the AMD64 X2 line still does better performance overall
[04:58] <Jucato> bigdad1e: yes
[04:58] <Ashex|Work> bigdadle, sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:58] <foxx> K-Ryan: Again, that depends.
[04:58] <JuJuBee> K
[04:58] <Jucato> !info vlc | bigdad1e
[04:58] <JuJuBee> Thanks gagin.
[04:58] <ubotu> bigdad1e: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[04:58] <foxx> K-Ryan: Like I said, you'll see more BALANCED performance otherwise.
[04:59] <Knightlust> np, wish you luck JujuBee.
[04:59] <acemo> K-Ryan, if you would get a new cpu for gaming, atm still single core is better for most games, but alot of games are switching over to use dual core
[04:59] <bigdad1e> how do i get it? its not showing up on my add programs
[04:59] <foxx> K-Ryan: If your OS isn't chewing up one core then the game will chew it up
[04:59] <Ashex|Work> personally, if you want to see a performance boost
[04:59] <Ashex|Work> mount /home to a seperate disk
[04:59] <Jucato> guys, could you take the processor discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[04:59] <foxx> K-Ryan: Not to mention that most popular titles in teh future will be supporting SMP
[04:59] <smurphy_> yep- Best CPU so far right now is E6600 from intel. best Price/Power ration ...
[04:59] <K-Ryan> Sorry Jucato
[04:59] <Jucato> bigdad1e: you have to enable the multiverse repository
[04:59] <K-Ryan> My questions have been answered anyways, thanks.
[04:59] <bigdad1e> how?
[04:59] <Jucato> !universe | bigdad1e
[04:59] <ubotu> bigdad1e: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:59] <foxx> I'm supposing nobody had any ideas about grub boot options for me?
[04:59] <bigdad1e> im sry im new
[05:00] <Jucato> no problem, that's why we're here
[05:00] <Jucato> :)
[05:00] <foxx> It'd be really nice to be able to boot Kubuntu's LiveCD again
[05:01] <acemo> anyone here has experience with bluetooth headsets?
[05:01] <eilker> !cairo-dock
[05:01] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[05:01] <eilker> can we use dock in kde ?
[05:01] <eilker> can we use *cairo-dock in kde ?
[05:01] <Ashex|Work> you could, but it wouldn't look to pretty in kde
[05:02] <Jucato> eilker: probably, although I'm not sure how much it will work.
[05:02] <Jucato> !kxdocker
[05:02] <foxx> Since it was up higher, my Kubuntu 6.10 LiveCD refuses to go to the login screen and stops cold at the X server.
[05:02] <allee> hi, anyone used cupssmbadd successfully?  I always get NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED opening remote file \W32X86/pe-ttt.ppd.   samba log tells me that I'm connct as root and  [print$]  has 'write list = root'
[05:02] <Ashex|Work> That is a gnome app, so it uses gnome resources
[05:02] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[05:02] <Jucato> eilker: ^^^
[05:02] <eilker> jucato: thanx, is kxdocker like kiba-dock  ?
[05:02] <Jucato> eilker: in some ways. but not entirely
[05:03] <Jucato> !ksmoothdock
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksmoothdock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Jucato> bah...
[05:03] <foxx> Could anyone at least point me to a list of LiveCD boot options so I can get into the system?
[05:03] <Ashex|Work> foxx, what are you trying to do?
[05:03] <eilker> jucato: thanx, let me try  kxdocker
[05:03] <foxx> Ashex
[05:04] <foxx> Ahsex|Work Just trying to boot the LiveCD
[05:04] <acemo> foxx, i think when booting, u can press f1-f5 to see the options *not sure.. works on gentoo*
[05:04] <maki_> where can i report bugs in 7.04
[05:04] <foxx> Doh, damn typos
[05:04] <foxx> acemo: It would, but it's not responding to the keyboard
[05:04] <Ashex|Work> foxx, if you're using the edgy live cd, it should present the boot menu before loading
[05:04] <foxx> Ashex|Work: It gets to the X server, the mouse and background come up, and it stops cold
[05:04] <Ashex|Work> ah
[05:05] <Ashex|Work> ctrl+alt+f1
[05:05] <foxx> Ashex|Work: I've had this problem before but I can't remember the grub option I was told to enable/disable to get past it
[05:05] <Ashex|Work> That's usually the output for the boot process
[05:05] <foxx> Ashex|Work: Doesn't work.
[05:05] <Ashex|Work> ah, i see
[05:05] <foxx> Ashex|Work: It fails to respond to keyboard input.  I can move the mouse, though
[05:05] <foxx> Ashex|Work: I've tried vga=vesa but the graphics seem to work fine.  I've tried acpi=disable but to no effect.
[05:06] <foxx> Ashex|Work: I've also been trying to search for the past hour about LiveCD issues with Ubuntu/Kubuntu to no avail of any kind
[05:06] <Ashex|Work> Yeah, I know the issue you're having, I'm just trying to remember the option :/
[05:06] <foxx> Ashex|Work: Is there a list of boot options for grub that the LiveCD will recognize?  I'm kind of troubled that such a list isn't easier to find
[05:07] <Ashex|Work> *sigh* of all days to night have a live disc with me
[05:07] <Ashex|Work> I've got 20 dapper discs, but none are edgy :/
[05:07] <foxx> Ashex|Work: I seem to remember having the same problem with Dapper as well as Ubuntu discs
[05:07] <Ashex|Work> ah
[05:08] <Ashex|Work> lemme try a dapper disk
[05:08] <foxx> Ashex|Work: Never had this problem with Gentoo but for obvious reasons
[05:08] <Ashex|Work> I just happen to have vmware workstation on here
[05:08] <foxx> Ashex|Work: Awww, lucky.  =)
[05:08] <foxx> Ashex|Work: I had to build my cluster the old fashioned way; pissing off my wife with a big ol' store of systems
[05:08] <eilker> sudo apt-get reinstall kxdocker
[05:08] <eilker> is it wrong ?
[05:09] <foxx> eilker: Should just say "sudo apt-get install kxdocker" I would imagine
[05:09] <Jucato> eilker: sudo apt-get install
[05:09] <eilker> but i installed it already
[05:09] <Jucato> eilker: why are you reinstalling then?
[05:09] <K-Ryan> then sudo apt-get remove kxdocker
[05:10] <K-Ryan> then sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[05:10] <eilker> jucato : kxdocker: WARNING: Cannot find updated resources: you may need to update or reinstall KXDocker resources, checkout http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdoc
[05:10] <Jucato> er.. sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker
[05:10] <Ashex|Work> foxx, gimme a second
[05:10] <K-Ryan> didnt know about that one =)
[05:11] <foxx> Ashex|Work: Sure thing
[05:11] <eilker> jucato: kxdocker works under beryl ?
[05:11] <Jucato> that I don't know
[05:12] <eilker> jucato: answer coming soon :)
[05:12] <Jucato> I won't be here to see your answer.but good luck anyway
[05:13] <eilker> jucato: thanx
[05:13] <Jucato> ok
[05:13] <Ashex|Work> bah, that's annoying
[05:13] <Ashex|Work> live disc refuses to boot
[05:13] <foxx> Huh, strange.
[05:13] <jhutchins> Ashex|Work: Where does it fail?
[05:14] <Ashex|Work> Well, vmware bios just doesn't boot off it
[05:15] <jhutchins> Well, VMWare.
[05:15] <luan> whats the command for downloading in the Terminal ?
[05:15] <Ashex|Work> hehe
[05:15] <Ashex|Work> luan, wget
[05:15] <jhutchins> luan: What do you want to download?
[05:15] <jhutchins> ftp
[05:15] <luan> I need to download aMSN
[05:15] <Jucato> luan: sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:15] <luan> and I think I need to reinstall Openoffice
[05:15] <fdoving> nite jucato.
[05:15] <Jucato> nite fdoving! :)
[05:16] <Ashex|Work> foxx, sorry, I can't get it to boot so I'm not much help atm
[05:16] <foxx> Ashex|Work: That's alright.  Don't suppose you know of any way to get it to go to a command line instead of the graphical login, would you?
[05:16] <jhutchins> luan: Check out koffice insetad of oo.
[05:16] <luan> ij
[05:16] <luan> ok
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> foxx: isn't there an option for console login
[05:16] <luan> and how do I get the list of files to download in apt-get ?
[05:17] <foxx> bonbonthejon: Not from what I'm seeing.
[05:17] <jhutchins> !bootoptions
[05:17] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:17] <bonbonthejon> luan: "sudo aptitude update"
[05:17] <jhutchins> A little obtuse...
[05:17] <Knightlust> luan: you have to update your repository so you could download koffice
[05:17] <luan> how do you do that
[05:17] <luan> sorry, i've never used linux
[05:17] <luan> :S
[05:17] <jhutchins> luan: apt-get update updates the list of available packages.
[05:18] <Knightlust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:18] <bonbonthejon> foxx: I just looked, its under menu in kdm
[05:18] <eilker> !docks
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Knightlust> but openoffice should suffice
[05:18] <eilker> !dock
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <foxx> bonbonthejon: That'd be helpful if KDM worked but we're not that far yet
[05:18] <foxx> bonbonthejon: We're talking about the LiveCD
[05:18] <Knightlust> been using oo ever since and I've never had problems with it
[05:18] <jhutchins> Knightlust: Me too, and now I can't open any of my documents, it just crashes and opens a blank.
[05:18] <foxx> jhutchins: THANK YOU for the boot options, me and Ashex|Work have been looking for those
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> foxx: try ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console
[05:19] <foxx> bonbonthejon: As explained earlier it doesn't recognize keyboard input
[05:19] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: There should be a boot option to go to console mode.
[05:19] <Jucato> Knightlust: take care of them for me :D
[05:19] <Knightlust> hehehe, ganun, hindi ko kaya ito
[05:19] <foxx> bonbonthejon: We remember the solution is in the boot options, just neither of us could remember which one it was
[05:19] <Ashex|Work> grr, damn vmware and it's like of global copy+paste
[05:19] <Jucato> Knightlust: English only please :D
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> foxx: never used the live cd, sorry
[05:19] <Jucato> heheh
[05:19] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: It's one of the reasons RH derived systems have useful runlevels, you can specify "linux 3" at the bootprompt and get console-only.
[05:19] <Knightlust> jhutchins, i think there is an option for safe mode
[05:20] <Knightlust> well, kinda
[05:20] <jhutchins> Knightlust: Yeah, that's it, safe mode!
[05:20] <Knightlust> wait, checking on that
[05:20] <jhutchins> foxx: safe mode or rescue mode.
[05:21] <Jucato> Recovery Mode in GRUB
[05:21] <foxx> jhutchins: Doesn't help, tried both.  Both of those attempt safe "graphics" modes, there is no option for a console
[05:22] <foxx> jhutchins: I've been through this problem before, there was something that was pretty common that a lot of people had to turn off to get past the same point in the boot options, I just can't for the life of me find it or remember it
[05:22] <jhutchins> acpi or apic
[05:22] <foxx> jhutchins: Trying it now
[05:22] <Knightlust> jhutchins, there doesn't seem to be an option to start OO in safe-mode, i think you need to reinstall OO
[05:23] <bigdad1e> what can i get to play avi codec?
[05:23] <jack__> hi how can i mark minimized windows and choose in the context menu how to arrange them?
[05:23] <blue|palm> Does anybody know what causes your CTRL+ALT+F1-6 terminals to appear extremely messy? (graphically) Im using an ati X1900XTX with the prop fglrx drivers
[05:23] <foxx> bigdad1e: AVI is a "container," it doesn't actually have a codec.  Rather codecs are used in AVIs.
[05:23] <bonbonthejon> !avi
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <bigdad1e> how do i play it then?
[05:24] <bigdad1e> those didnt help me
[05:24] <jhutchins> Knightlust: Completely removed all traces except documents, reinstalled, still crashes.
[05:24] <Knightlust> aha! a service may be doing that
[05:24] <foxx> bigdad1e: You have to install the codec you require (DivX, XviD, whatever it needs), then simply fire up your favorite movie player
[05:25] <bigdad1e> where do i get the codec? sry i kno im a pain in the a--
[05:25] <Knightlust> its not OO then, its something else. K>System Settings>Advanced>System Services ..you may need to check on that
[05:25] <Knightlust> or the services running
[05:25] <foxx> bigdad1e: Some can be obtained through the package manager of your choice (I use Adept).
[05:25] <jack__> hi how can i mark minimized windows and choose in the context menu how to arrange them?
[05:25] <Knightlust> i cant tell you what services may be causing crashes in OO, but you may need to google it out
[05:26] <foxx> jhutchins: Alright, noacpi didn't fix it, going to try it with noacpi noapic
[05:26] <bigdad1e> can you give me the name of something that will work?
[05:26] <Knightlust> jack_: right-click?
[05:26] <Knightlust> heehee
[05:26] <foxx> bigdad1e: Well like I said, that depends on how teh AVI file was encoded.
[05:26] <Knightlust> arrange them? i dont think you can
[05:26] <jhutchins> !mpe | bigdad1e
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <jhutchins> !mp3 | bigdad1e
[05:26] <ubotu> bigdad1e: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <bigdad1e> those sites dont tell me what i need to kno but thanks
[05:27] <jack__> Knightlust: i know you can, like tileetc, it was like mark and then right click, but doesnt seem to work anymore
[05:27] <Knightlust> yeah, been looking for that too.. but i havent seen that since dapper
[05:28] <Knightlust> sorry, i meant hoary
[05:28] <jack__> Knightlust: exactly, so how can i get that back?
[05:28] <bigdad1e> foxx, how do i find out what it really needs?
[05:28] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: Actually, they do.
[05:29] <Knightlust> jack_: you may want to check out System Settings>Window Behaviour and try to experiment on some settings
[05:29] <foxx> bigdad1e: Well, depends on what you've downloaded.  Such as if I download a movie and the author says it was encoded with DivX then it needs DivX
[05:29] <Knightlust> im pretty sure it's there
[05:29] <bigdad1e> ive read them things up and down and nothing i can use or understand
[05:29] <bigdad1e> xvid
[05:29] <bigdad1e> is what it needs
[05:32] <foxx> Alright, then go to your package manager of choice (in my case Adept) and search for xvid
[05:32] <foxx> You should come up with smoething called "libxvidcore4" or similar
[05:32] <BluesKaj> simple question , for some reason the partialpage to fullpage open in Firefox isn't working for me , anyone know the trick getting full page to open on launch to work ?
[05:32] <bigdad1e> foxx, i need something for xvid and mp3
[05:33] <foxx> bigdad1e: Worry about one at a time.  After you've got the libxvidcore look into downloading LAME, probably liblame
[05:33] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: Re-read the RestrictedFormats page, it's pretty explicit.
[05:33] <BluesKaj> !audio-codecs
[05:33] <jhutchins> It tells you specificly how to get w32codecs
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <bigdad1e> will do thanks sry for the hassel
[05:34] <foxx> jhutchins: Damn, still no dice.  I kinda wish there was a comprehensive list of Grub boot options, I think that'd probably make this much easier
[05:35] <BluesKaj> foxx , have you considered "SuperGrub Live CD" , it claims to solve a whole host of bootloader problems
[05:38] <foxx> BluesKaj: I can honestly say I've never heard of such a thing
[05:39] <jhutchins> foxx: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html
[05:40] <foxx> Waaaaaaaaaait a minute...anyone know what the boot option is for single user mode?
[05:41] <jhutchins> foxx: linux single?
[05:42] <foxx> jhutchins: Trying it now
[05:42] <foxx> Ah HAH!
[05:43] <foxx> boot prompt is MINE!
[05:45] <foxx> Okay, confirmed it's definitely a problem with X.  Single user mode works just fine, as soon as you hit "startx" it hangs just like before
[05:45] <san_> Alguien habla espaol???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????''
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> !es | san_
[05:45] <ubotu> san_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:45] <san_> ubotu gracias, bonbon hola
[05:46] <foxx> I must admit I hope this gets fixed in Fiesty.
[05:46] <blue|palm> http://opende.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[05:47] <blue|palm> Does anybody know what causes your CTRL+ALT+F1-6 terminals to appear extremely messy? (graphically) Im using an ati X1900XTX with the prop fglrx drivers
[05:47] <jhutchins> foxx: Which?
[05:48] <jhutchins> blue|palm: You can try eliminating framebuffer in the consoles, that may help.
[05:48] <jhutchins> blue|palm: does "reset" help?
[05:48] <foxx> jhutchins: The issue of X hanging from the LiveCd.  I remember last time I had this problem it seems there's actually quite a few people with the same problem, I just can't for the life of me find it on the support forums now
[05:48] <firephoto> JuJuBee: that board will work with feisty, only issue might be if you have a sata cdrom that you're installing off of.
[05:48] <blue|palm> jhutchins: how would i do that>
[05:48] <blue|palm> jhutchins: I cant see what im typing...
[05:48] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Wing it.
[05:48] <blue|palm> jhutchins: lol ok
[05:48] <D_Cent> hi
[05:48] <blue|palm> jhutchins: will reset do anything to my current X session?
[05:49] <jhutchins> foxx: I think that's addressed with the alternative CD, it does text-based setup.
[05:49] <jhutchins> blue|palm: No, it resets the current "terminal".
[05:49] <firephoto> JuJuBee: it'll work with edgy too but you need to install edgy on different hardware first and move the drive after it's updated.
[05:49] <D_Cent> my computer crashes if i stick on my usb-stick... who can help me?
[05:49] <bigdad1e> one last question how do i install programs from the terminal?
[05:49] <jhutchins> D_Cent: What release?
[05:49] <foxx> jhutchins: Interesting.
[05:50] <D_Cent> jhutchins: edgy
[05:50] <blue|palm> jhutchins: thanks
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> bigdad1e: sudo apt-get install PROG
[05:50] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: apt-get install <program>
[05:50] <foxx> D_Cent: Sounds like it doesn't like being touched in that way.  Give it a bottle of wine first.
[05:50] <jhutchins> dang, always forget that sudo.
[05:50] <foxx> jhutchins: Alright, fixed it.
[05:50] <bigdad1e> thank you
[05:50] <D_Cent> foxx: nothing with wine...
[05:50] <foxx> D_Cent: Sorry, it was a terrible joke
[05:50] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[05:50] <blue|palm> jhutchins: reset made no diff, how would i change the framebuffer. turn it on/off? Where do i do this?
[05:51] <foxx> jhutchins: Apparently the problem was the Xserver was trying to set up the server with my graphics card driver set to "nv"
[05:51] <jhutchins> blue|palm: I think it needs to happen in grub...
[05:51] <blue|palm> jhutchins: Or do i have to go to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <blue|palm> jhutchins: oh
[05:51] <foxx> jhutchins: From single user mode I edited the xorg.conf and changed the driver to "vesa" and it worked perfect.
[05:51] <foxx> jhutchins: REALLY odd though, I tried "vga=vesa" from grub and that didn't do squat.
[05:52] <D_Cent> i could not find a way to get that to work....
[05:52] <blue|palm> does anyone else here who uses ati have problems with the F1 - 6 terminals?
[05:53] <jhutchins> foxx: Right, boot is all about console, doesn't affect X at all, X is a seperate system.
[05:54] <jhutchins> blue|palm: I think you can try booting with the "VGA=normal" or "nofb" option.
[05:54] <foxx> jhutchins: I was positive there was a way to overide the X autoconfiguration though from GRUB on the LiveCD.
[05:54] <jhutchins> blue|palm: I have seen that, but not recently.  It's not surprizing with the newer video drivers that require kernel support.
[05:54] <jhutchins> foxx: Nope.
[05:55] <jhutchins> foxx: You can only affect the console video mode.
[05:55] <jhutchins> blue|palm: I don't believe there's any way to fix it once X is running.
[05:55] <foxx> jhutchins: Well nuts.  Well, lesson learned, at least it was easy to fix.
[05:56] <foxx> jhutchins: I think I'll make a thread about it in the support forum for Ubuntu in case anyone else experiences the same issue since I was unable to find anything on it after much scouring
[05:56] <jhutchins> foxx: Great idea.
[05:56] <blue|palm> jhutchins: thanks for the help
[05:56] <blue|palm> jhutchins: these drivers are pathetic, honestly
[05:56] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Sure, good luck.
[05:56] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Works in progress, as always.
[06:00] <Patrialt> im using kubuntu live cd 6.10, and i cant seem to locate files on my hard drive, can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:01] <firemonkeyballz> Patrialt what files?
[06:01] <Patrialt> well i cant seem to locate any of my 4 partitions on my HDD
[06:02] <firemonkeyballz> go here system:/media
[06:02] <Patrialt> im used to the Gnome setup, so KDE kinda caught me off guard
[06:02] <besonen_mobile> i've just installed 7.04 and noticed that when i browse a fat32 partition with many files konqueror gets busy doing something and my whole system lags?  when konqueror first accesses a partition does it auto-index and/or recurse the whole directory structure creating thumbnails?  if this isn't it what else could konqueror be doing?  whatever it's doing i would like to stop it.
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> beson that version is totally alpha
[06:03] <besonen_mobile> i know
[06:03] <Patrialt> firemonkeyballz when i go to system:/media all it displays for me is a file that's labelled '.hidden'
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> are  you running from the CD?
[06:04] <Patrialt> yup
[06:04] <besonen_mobile> it doesn't seem like a bug firemonkeyballz
[06:04] <besonen_mobile> nope
[06:04] <besonen_mobile> installed to my hd
[06:04] <firemonkeyballz> ment patrialt
[06:04] <firemonkeyballz> umm you may get away with it by pressing ctrl c besonen
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> or clicking the x
[06:05] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, open up terminal and type df
[06:05] <Ashex|Work> that will show if they are mounted
[06:05] <Ashex|Work> otherwise, type sudo fdisk -l
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> ashex I dont thnk they are mounted
[06:05] <Ashex|Work> that will show all volumes in the system
[06:06] <firemonkeyballz> he's running of the cd
[06:06] <matthias> hi
[06:06] <Ashex|Work> ah
[06:06] <matthias> can somebody help me
[06:06] <Ashex|Work> yeah, fdisk -l will show them
[06:06] <besonen_mobile> firemonkeyballz: ctrl c to close the konqueror window?  obviously i'm just not familiar with konqueror :-)
[06:06] <Ashex|Work> then he can type pmount /dev/hda#
[06:06] <matthias> euhm
[06:06] <matthias> how do i install new dictionnaries in openoffice
[06:06] <matthias> or wait
[06:06] <Ashex|Work> well, pmount may not work since it's not a removably
[06:06] <matthias> sorry
[06:07] <firemonkeyballz> bensoneon Im not too familure with it my self
[06:07] <firemonkeyballz> buh I do kno that you can click the x
[06:07] <firemonkeyballz> for shure
[06:07] <bigdad1e> how do i get the gdebi package if its not letting me click on it?
[06:07] <Ashex|Work> I just alt+f4 to close
[06:08] <foxx> jhutchins: There we go, as promised:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2292104#post2292104
[06:08] <Patrialt> ashex|work that is correct, didn't work cuz it's not removable
[06:08] <foxx> With that I'm going to leave.  Thank you all for your assistance, I'm glad we were able to get it running together.
[06:08] <Patrialt> any alternative?
[06:08] <besonen_mobile> firemonkeyballz:  i guess that's why we're all in the kubuntu channel - because we need help with kde.  the blind leading the blind :-)
[06:09] <firemonkeyballz> yes buh most people in here treat others like complete computer noobs
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> I know a few
[06:10] <besonen_mobile> noobs?
[06:10] <Patrialt> we all need our hand held, and taken by baby steps sometimes :P
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> well one does have to assume that the user knows nothing
[06:10] <Patrialt> noobs means newbies
[06:10] <besonen_mobile> that's for sure.
[06:10] <besonen_mobile> we're always learning
[06:10] <slow-motion> hallo#
[06:10] <bigdad1e> can i ask how do i download a package if it wont let me click on it?   noobs=ppl like me
[06:10] <fdoving> Parkotron: or new users :)
[06:10] <besonen_mobile> and text is so frikk'in limiting
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> yea fdoving
[06:10] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, are they ntfs partitions?
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm that should explain a few things
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> if so
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: as in that they are on the website?
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> nos they said they
[06:11] <bigdad1e> i dont get what u mean
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> would have it fixed in edgy
[06:11] <besonen_mobile> i know noob mean newbie firemonkeyballz.  i was simply confirming what you were referring to noobs.  see what i mean about the joy's of text-based communication.
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> opertive word may
[06:11] <Patrialt> ashex|work only one of them, there are 4 partitions, sda1-sda4 and they are in this order NTFS, ext3, ext3, swap
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: where are you trying to click on the package?
[06:12] <Patrialt> im trying to mount the 2nd partition (sda2) it's my storage partition
[06:12] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, okay, ext3 shouldn't be a problem
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> wheee have original ati drivers
[06:12] <bigdad1e> add+remove programs
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[06:12] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, basically, all you are doing is creating a directory in /media/ and then mounting the partition to it
[06:13] <Ashex|Work> so, sudo mkdir /media/sda2 && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: its on the list in ad/remove, but you can't install it?
[06:13] <Patrialt> kk, i'll give it a shot
[06:13] <firemonkeyballz> well im out
[06:13] <bigdad1e> ya
[06:13] <firemonkeyballz> got to get to class
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: they don't have a check mark by them?
[06:14] <Patrialt> lol, thanks that worked, i gotta remember these simple lifesavers :P
[06:14] <bigdad1e> they do but it wont let me click on it
[06:14] <Patrialt> i just didn't suspect that it didn't automount, my Ubuntu live cd had no trouble mounting my HDD partitions
[06:15] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, not a problem
[06:15] <Ashex|Work> with the live cd's occasionally it'll be a hit and miss
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> do you have the "show unsupported and show proprietary" clicked on the top of the window?
[06:15] <Ashex|Work> the ntfs partition will be tricky though
[06:15] <bigdad1e> no
[06:15] <Ashex|Work> since linux can't detect the permissions, it automatically makes it root access only
[06:16] <Ashex|Work> so, if you want to mount it, you'll need to set the uid for it
[06:16] <Patrialt> ahh, i see, well, i was testing kubuntu to see if i liked it enough to install as a 3rd OS on my HDD
[06:16] <Ashex|Work> check the man page for how to set that
[06:16] <Ashex|Work> ah
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: "check" them and you chould be able to install those packages
[06:16] <Patrialt> have you by chance tried a triple boot system? windows xp, ubuntu, kubuntu
[06:16] <Ashex|Work> kubuntu is a nice os to play with :)
[06:16] <Patrialt> hoping that it wont give me any problems
[06:17] <Ashex|Work> Patrialt, I was doing that for awhile
[06:17] <bigdad1e> it still didnt work
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: which program is it?
[06:17] <Ashex|Work> back when edgy was in beta
[06:17] <Patrialt> nice
[06:17] <Ashex|Work> I was triple-booting windows, dapper, and edgy
[06:17] <holger> hi everyone
[06:17] <bigdad1e> GDebi
[06:17] <Patrialt> so...if i install this to HD, will it replace the old grub boot manager with an updated one that supports 3 os's
[06:17] <holger> does anyone know how to disable the mouse acceleration in Kubuntu?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> wowsers.. that GreaseMonkey extension for firefox + Plataypus is saving me such a headache.. :)
[06:18] <holger> hmmm
[06:18] <Patrialt> i read somewhere that grub automatically detects non linux OS's, but it didn't say anything about auto detecting 2nd linux OSs
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: I don't even have that listed as a package...
[06:18] <Dr_willis> holger,  its tehre in the controlcenter thingie somewhere Perphrials->mouse->oneof the tabs/sliders
[06:18] <holger> is anyone playing et?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  'grub' dosent auto detect. the ubuntu/kubuntu installers can scan and add the proper grub entrys for the other od's
[06:19] <bigdad1e> its under system gdebi package installer
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  and yes - they did see my other linux installs on this machine.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  which suprised the heck out of me.
[06:19] <Patrialt> dr_willis awesome, thanks a bunch
[06:19] <Ashex|Work> Woohoo
[06:19] <Ashex|Work> And I'm going to get coffee
[06:19] <Ashex|Work> be back in a bit
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: hmm.. ok..no clue
[06:19] <Dr_willis> now if i knew how they did it . so i could get them to add other os's after ive installed Ubuntu :)
[06:20] <Patrialt> Well
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: can you instll other packages?
[06:20] <Patrialt> i was directed to the file recently dr_willis
[06:20] <Patrialt> let me see if i can find the file for you
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  you mean the grub config file?
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: wouldn't that be "update-grub"?
[06:20] <bigdad1e> nosrednaekim, ya im really trying to get to play my xvid videos but i cant seem to get it to play
[06:20] <Patrialt> lol yea
[06:20] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  from whati can tell that just 'rescans' the grub menu.lst file's comments and does some changes
[06:20] <mhb> hi all
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: use adept
[06:21] <Dr_willis> it dosent rescan the whold system/all the drives for new linux installs - which is what the installer seems to do.
[06:21] <nosrednaekim> !adept
[06:21] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:21] <mhb> I've set up multiple panels, and I want to resize the second one
[06:21] <bigdad1e> i am but i cant get it to work
[06:21] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: oh..ok.. nice
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  grub is one of those tools thats well worth going to its homepage and printing/reading all their docs.     :)
[06:21] <mhb> but every time I right click on it - Configure panel it always pops-up the first panel configuration
[06:21] <Dr_willis> grub is sort of amazing in ways
[06:21] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:21] <Patrialt> should be at like /boot/grub/config.ini or something, but you can manually insert new OS details i'd say
[06:21] <bigdad1e> i need to install libdvdcss
[06:21] <Patrialt> like...just copy previous OS directions, and replace the necessary parts :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  of course you can MANUALLY insert the entrys. thats trivial.  This is linux of course..
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> !dvd | bigdad1e
[06:22] <ubotu> bigdad1e: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:22] <Patrialt> haha yea, good call
[06:22] <Dr_willis> getting the system to see ALL the os's you got installed and making the right entrioes is a little harder.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ive hacked and slashed and fought with grub many a day. :)
[06:22] <Patrialt> i'd say just give it time lol, sooner or later everything will be PnP :P
[06:22] <bigdad1e> | norednaekim all i wanna do is watch my movies lol but its not letting me lol
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Patrialt,  in some ways thats a bad thing.
[06:23] <Patrialt> well yea, it allows user idiotness :P
[06:23] <Dr_willis> when everything does everything automaticially.. then somthing 'breaks' you have to then  dig down UNDER the idiot-proofing to find the real problem.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> one of the reasons i hate this useless eye candy.
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: ever seen the suse grub which,when rebooting, lets you select which OS to boot?
[06:23] <Patrialt> haha good call, but it's pretty much the only way for newby windows users to convert :P
[06:24] <Dr_willis> did X crash due to this or that.. or  was it Beryls fault. :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  err... thats pretty much how grub works. :)
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: are they in divx or dvd format?
[06:24] <bigdad1e> xvid
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis:  but I never could figure out how to make Kubuntu do it
[06:25] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  same as in all the otehr disrtos.. see we are back to this idot-proofing. :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> they both use GRUB.. they both use grubs configs.. its just differnt options and config files.
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> at least it isn't default
[06:25] <Dr_willis> learn grub and you learn the fundamentals.
[06:25] <holger> i need help with mouse acceleration..... how may i disable mouseaccel ?
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> No,I mean in kdm, when you say "reboot" you can tell it what os to reboot into,
[06:25] <Patrialt> it's okay tho, without idiots and broken simplicities there are no troubleshooting workdesk positions to talk to people for a couple $ a minute :P
[06:25] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  thats a KDM/GDM option
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: what do you mean adept doesn't work?
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> yeah..I guess so...
[06:26] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  ive seen that befor also.  nice in ways.
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> I guess I'll just have to get dirty digging..;)
[06:26] <bigdad1e> it wont install the package i have for the libdvd
[06:26] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  not sure how kdm/gdm do it. I think they edit the grub config file wihch is a bit scary in ways
[06:26] <bigdad1e> and how do i get wine on kubuntu?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> holger,  kcontrol --> perhprials -> mouse
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !wine
[06:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> !divx
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <bigdad1e> im new i dont understand whats on those sites.. ive been getting them all day and not 1 of them helped me
[06:28] <Patrialt> bigdad1e you can also go to add/remove programs, select "any suite" and search for wine
[06:28] <holger> willis, i need to disable mouse accelleration for Enemy Territory
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: isn't the version of wine in the default repositories *several* releases outdated?
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> .9.22, i think
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  proberly.. but wine gets updates like every week... so
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> true
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I dont even use it much.. I dont use cedega any more either
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i try to avoid cedega
[06:29] <bigdad1e> the terminal wouldnt let me install wine
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> why not?
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> does it give you an error?
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and there are very few programs i need wine for
[06:29] <bigdad1e> eading package lists... Done
[06:29] <bigdad1e> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:29] <bigdad1e> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:29] <bigdad1e> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:29] <bigdad1e> is only available from another source
[06:29] <bigdad1e> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:30] <alanhaggai> Where are the KDE headers installed in Kubuntu?
[06:30] <bigdad1e> neither will adept
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a linux equivalent to dvdshrink in windows?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:30] <bigdad1e> how and what is that?
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> universe.
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> open it with " kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:32] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10210/
[06:34] <nosrednaekim> k
[06:35] <alanhaggai> Where are the KDE headers installed in Kubuntu?
[06:35] <bigdad1e> nosrednaekim, is that what u need?
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: yeah thanks...
[06:36] <bigdad1e> np
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> now, run this command " kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list "
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> and I have a modified version of that file for you to replace it with
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10211/
[06:37] <bigdad1e> ok
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> erase what was in that file, and replace it with that
[06:38] <bigdad1e> ok
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> now run this " sudo apt-update "
[06:39] <bigdad1e> command not found
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> what you just did was enable several repositories of programs
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> err... just a sec
[06:39] <bigdad1e> ya
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah here sorry... " sudo apt-get update"
[06:41] <bigdad1e> ok
[06:41] <bigdad1e> there was alot of err and failed
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> finished?
[06:42] <bigdad1e> ya
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: ok...
[06:43] <gioacchino> hello
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> thats PROBABLY ok..
[06:43] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program i can use to plot in 3d ?
[06:43] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10212/
[06:43] <gioacchino> anybody now how to use sudo command in a sh script ?
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> open up adept again and search for "divx4linux"
[06:43] <soulrider> w32codecs already includes a DivX codec
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> !search divx4linux
[06:44] <ubotu> Found:
[06:44] <bigdad1e> i need xvid
[06:44] <bigdad1e> not dvix
[06:44] <soulrider> xvid is already included i think
[06:44] <gioacchino> anyone know how to use sudo command in a sh script ?
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[06:45] <bigdad1e> and it didnt show in adept
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> gioacchino: just put a sudo in?
[06:45] <soulrider> bigdad1e: i think xvid is already included, you can also try installing libxvidcore
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e:  OH!
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> did you search for xvid?
[06:46] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install libxvidcore4
[06:46] <gioacchino> yes
[06:46] <bigdad1e> now what do i do?
[06:47] <gioacchino> I want  a put in a sh scritp sudo command with password
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> gioacchino: that doesn't work?
[06:47] <soulrider> bigdad1e: if you installed it thats it
[06:47] <gioacchino> esample :  sudo mkdir
[06:47] <niles> hi
[06:47] <soulrider> stuff should just play if it didnt before
[06:47] <gioacchino> I not know the sintax for put in the password of root
[06:47] <soulrider> bigdad1e: you could also install vlc, its a player that brings its own folters i think
[06:47] <niles> ctrl z wont put irssi in the background
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> gioacchino: I don't think you can do that, the best way is yo run the .sh with sudo priveleges
[06:47] <bigdad1e> how do i get vlc?
[06:48] <soulrider> gioacchino: if you do "sudo mkdir <dirname>"
[06:48] <gioacchino> I have try with this sintax : sudo command passw but not work
[06:48] <soulrider> it should prompt for the password
[06:48] <soulrider> bigdad1e: sudo aptitude install vlc
[06:48] <soulrider> but let me re-check the package name
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: did soulrider's command work?
[06:48] <soulrider> yes, vlc is ok
[06:48] <bigdad1e> i dont think so
[06:48] <soulrider> nosrednaekim: im almost sure that xvid is already included
[06:48] <gioacchino> nosrednaekim: the problem is only a part of sh script must be executed with sudo privileges
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: it wasn't for me...
[06:49] <bigdad1e> Unable to lock the administration directory   what does that mean?
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> gioacchino: ahh... and you don't want to be prompted for the password?
[06:49] <soulrider> !adeptfix | bigdad1e
[06:49] <ubotu> bigdad1e: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:49] <gioacchino> yes you understand ;)
[06:49] <soulrider> type that
[06:50] <soulrider> also, bigdad1e make sure thata dept is not open when you type one of my commands :P
[06:50] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, it means that a process is using the dpkg directory, possibly adept_manager or apt itself
[06:51] <Ashex|Work> it's locked whenever apt is installing or upgrading a pacakge
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> gioacchino: I don't think you can do that...its probably better to just sudo the whole command
[06:51] <bigdad1e> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc"
[06:51] <soulrider> uhm, hold on
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> command > script
[06:51] <Ashex|Work> bigdadle, you need to enable the universe repository
[06:51] <Ashex|Work> !universe | bigdad1e
[06:51] <ubotu> bigdad1e: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:51] <JuJuBee> I need to find a motherboard for core 2 duo socket 775 cpu that is supported by ubuntu.  Can anybody help?
[06:51] <soulrider> bigdad1e: this may all seem very complicated at first, but dont get discouraged, linux is so much easier than it seems!
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> Ashex|Work: I just had hom do that
[06:52] <bigdad1e> i thought it was i did that already and so did noraesraekim
[06:52] <Ashex|Work> nosrednaekim, ah, my mistake
[06:52] <Ashex|Work> do an apt-cache search vlc
[06:53] <bigdad1e> didnt do anything
[06:53] <Ashex|Work> hookay
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: any nvidia...
[06:53] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, which repository did you enable universe in?
[06:53] <soulrider> JuJuBee: i dont know for sure, but ubuntu will probably work no matter which mobo youre using
[06:53] <bigdad1e> um..the first 2 i think
[06:53] <matthias> hi
[06:54] <JuJuBee> Not true. I have not been able to get it to install on INTEL DG965wh
[06:54] <matthias> i hear i can install kde4
[06:54] <matthias> if i do this
[06:54] <bigdad1e> ashex|work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10213/   this will tell u
[06:55] <firephoto> JuJuBee: is your cd/dvd drive an ide one?
[06:55] <JuJuBee> Yes
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: thts not an Nvidia
[06:55] <soulrider> JuJuBee: i got an intel mobo and it works like charm =.
[06:55] <matthias> can i then also choose to go back to kde3
[06:55] <matthias> or let it put me that way
[06:55] <soulrider> matthias: i dont suggets going to kde4
[06:55] <firephoto> JuJuBee: you've used the desktop cd? latest daily, or herd? (feisty)
[06:55] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, I'm taking a look at it
[06:55] <matthias> can i choose in kdm the kde3 AND the kde4?
[06:55] <bigdad1e> ok
[06:55] <JuJuBee> Many people on this and #ubuntu have tried to help me and no luck.
[06:55] <matthias> session
[06:55] <besonen_mobile> what's the root password for kubuntu?
[06:56] <soulrider> matthias: i dont think so
[06:56] <JuJuBee> I tired 6.06, 6.10, feisty
[06:56] <soulrider> besonen_mobile: you dont need to know :P use sudo
[06:56] <matthias> oh thx
[06:56] <firephoto> JuJuBee: right, but the feisty desktop cd, not the alternative...?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> firephoto: ahh... that would be a problem wouldn't it ....
[06:56] <soulrider> matthias: if i were you i would stay in kde3
[06:56] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, you only enable multiverse
[06:56] <Ashex|Work> add universe to lines 3 and 4
[06:56] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:56] <JuJuBee> Not yet, only alt.
[06:56] <besonen_mobile> amarok is asking for one to "install mp3 support".
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> matthias: yes
[06:57] <bigdad1e> how did i get that up in the terminal?
[06:57] <soulrider> besonen_mobile: the password it prompts for is your own pass
[06:57] <firephoto> JuJuBee: alt is probably still broken on feisty for a g965. i thought they had fixed it though.
[06:57] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: you can choose between the two...
[06:57] <firephoto> pata_marvell module is probably missing.
[06:57] <besonen_mobile> soulrider: i try that again
[06:57] <soulrider> bigdad1e: if you want to edit a file using the terminal you can use the "nano" editor
[06:57] <chronic1> someone in a class told me that the new ubuntu is goign to be kde by default.....is this misinformation?
[06:57] <bigdad1e> ok
[06:57] <soulrider> besonen_mobile: did you enable universe and multiverse yet ?
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> chronic1: yes....kubuntu will always be KDE though
[06:58] <firephoto> JuJuBee: you can also install edgy on different hardware and move the drive to the new system after it's updated. edgy + updates has the right modules. but the network might not work.
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> chronic1: that yes.. it is misinformation
[06:58] <besonen_mobile> soulrider: no.  how do i do that?
[06:58] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, if you want to save yourself the trouble, uncomment 28&29 for future use
[06:59] <besonen_mobile> soulrider: btw, my password worked, i typed it wrong the first time.  thanks.
[06:59] <JuJuBee> firephoto : that didn't work
[06:59] <ubuntu> hi, I have bootet a kubuntu
[07:00] <bigdad1e> how do i uncomment?
[07:00] <firephoto> JuJuBee: anyway, feisty will work best on that board. has the updated video and kernel drivers. i have a dg965ss running almost perfect (xinerama via add2 card doesn't work)
[07:00] <ubuntu> hi,  i have bootet a  kubuntu live cd, and I need to mount my hd, so that I can fix a problem. How do I mount my HD?
[07:00] <JuJuBee> The feisty image is 703.5 MB but my Cd only holds 702.8
[07:00] <JuJuBee> What can I do?
[07:00] <ubuntu> My HD is a Kubuntu installation, so I guess it is ext3
[07:00] <Morvok_zZz> write to a dvd
[07:00] <firephoto> JuJuBee: you can probably over burn that little bit.
[07:01] <firephoto> JuJuBee: or use a dvd. works the same.
[07:01] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, type df -h to see if it is already mounted
[07:01] <Ashex|Work> if not, type sudo fdisk -l to see where it is
[07:01] <besonen_mobile> soulrider: are you suggesting that i need to enable universe and multiverse to get amarok to install m3 support?
[07:01] <bigdad1e> ok i did it how do i get out of it now?
[07:02] <Ashex|Work> to mount it, sudo mkdir /media/sda2 && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2
[07:02] <Ashex|Work> if the partition is sda2
[07:02] <soulrider> besonen_mobile: im not sure, maybe, but you will have to eventually enable them anyways
[07:02] <soulrider> besonen_mobile:  so you might as well just do it now
[07:02] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, ctrl+O to save
[07:02] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, ctrl+x to exit
[07:02] <besonen_mobile> soulrider: how do i do that?
[07:02] <bigdad1e> o sh--
[07:02] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, what is it?
[07:02] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: hmm, it does not seem to be mounted, but whn I add up all the space it exceeds a cd in size (app 2.5GB, but my HD is 20GB)! so i am not really sure
[07:03] <bigdad1e> i got to do it over
[07:03] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, df -h shows mounted paritions, when you run a live disc, it expands files and creates a ram disk
[07:03] <Ashex|Work> so it will total to be more then the disc size
[07:04] <soulrider> besonen_mobile: i would like to guide you through it, but i have a midterm in like 4 hours :P but ill mkae the bot give you the tutorial
[07:04] <soulrider> !repos | besonen_mobile
[07:04] <ubotu> besonen_mobile: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:04] <besonen_mobile> thanks soulrider.
[07:04] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, use sudo fdisk -l to locate the partition you want to mount
[07:04] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: ok, so then it is not mounted
[07:05] <bigdad1e> ashex|work, what do u do to put no comment?
[07:05] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: ok
[07:05] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, delete the #
[07:05] <Ashex|Work> anything with a # at the beginning is ignored by apt
[07:06] <aboe> when will the kubuntu forums available
[07:06] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: Ok, I have a list of the partitions on my hd now, is it the start and end that I need? Or ID?
[07:07] <bigdad1e> i think i did it now what do i do?
[07:07] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, you only need the device name
[07:07] <Ashex|Work> /dev/foo
[07:07] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, sudo apt-get update
[07:08] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: That would be /dev/hda1?
[07:08] <bigdad1e> ok now what?
[07:08] <Ashex|Work> sure?
[07:08] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, install vlc now
[07:08] <bigdad1e> sudo apt-vlc?
[07:09] <Ashex|Work> sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:09] <Ashex|Work> apt-get is the command, install is the flag, vlc is the option
[07:09] <bigdad1e> couldnt find package
[07:09] <Ashex|Work> you added universe to lines 3&4?
[07:09] <bigdad1e> yes
[07:10] <Ashex|Work> and you saved changes?
[07:10] <bigdad1e> yes
[07:10] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: As far as I can see the disk name is /dev/hda, and the three partitions are /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5. And /dev/hda1 is the one I need to mount
[07:11] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, okay, now run this command to mount it: sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[07:11] <Ashex|Work> if it's ext3, that'll do it
[07:13] <ubuntu> Ashex|Work: Thanks a lot, this was first class help :)
[07:15] <Ashex|Work> ubuntu, no problem :)
[07:15] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, that is rather strange
[07:16] <Ashex|Work> !vlc
[07:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:16] <Ashex|Work> !codecs > me
[07:17] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, one moment, I'll update your repository list
[07:17] <bigdad1e> ok
[07:18] <dromer> hi, how can I copy the theme&settings etc. of one user to another?
[07:20] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, http://pastebin.ca/393595
[07:21] <Ashex|Work> I had to use pastebin because of the retarded spam checker
[07:21] <metodo_> hi!
[07:21] <Ashex|Work> dromer, copy .kde for a shortcut
[07:21] <netwalker> hallo ihr Linuxer ;-)
[07:21] <bigdad1e> its ok no problem
[07:21] <Ashex|Work> dromer, remove kwallet though
[07:22] <metodo_> tested!, thx! chao!.
[07:22] <bigdad1e> ok now what do i do?
[07:22] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, easiest way is to use kate
[07:22] <Ashex|Work> so, kdesu kate
[07:22] <Ashex|Work> er
[07:22] <Ashex|Work> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <dromer> Ashex|Work: hmm, when I tried this (sudo cp -R .kde) it didn't work, got some error and I had to remove .kde completely, and the .kde-backup doesn't work anymore
[07:23] <Ashex|Work> what was the error?
[07:23] <bigdad1e> ok now what?
[07:23] <chavo> dromer, that's because when you sue suod the copied files are owned by root. You need to change the owner of the files after you copy
[07:23] <Ashex|Work> replace the sources.list you have with the one I gave you
[07:23] <dromer> sorry, don't remember, some weir (non KDE-like) screen in the upper left corner
[07:23] <bigdad1e> ok
[07:24] <chavo> dromer, sudo chown usernae.username.kde -R
[07:24] <dromer> chavo: ok, thnx, I'll try!
[07:24] <bigdad1e> ok how do i save?
[07:24] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, ctrl+s?
[07:24] <Ashex|Work> it's a gui editor, so just file>save
[07:24] <dromer> chavo: first cp -R and then the chown?
[07:24] <bigdad1e> thats it?
[07:24] <chavo> dromer, yes
[07:25] <Ashex|Work> bigdad1e, pretty much
[07:25] <Ashex|Work> then do sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <Ashex|Work> and then try installing vlc again
[07:25] <Ashex|Work> that should work for you
[07:26] <bigdad1e> hoping
[07:26] <dromer> chavo: I'm guessing a space between user.user .kde ? ;)
[07:26] <Ashex|Work> heh, I'll be back
[07:26] <frojnd> is there any linux program that crakcs SAM and system (I forgot windows 2000 pass and I don't wanna reinstall windows...) programs like saminside or LC5 ??
[07:26] <chavo> dromer, yes sorry
[07:26] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, yes, give  aminute to find it
[07:26] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: tnx
[07:31] <dromer> ok, other problem I still have is with nvidia twinview on my Geforce2 MX - CRT,TV - setup: I get two separate desktops instead of just one extended over the two
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
[07:31] <JuJuBee> firephoto : just burned feisty and trie it.  I checked integ and ok. Rebooted and tried install.  Got a few pages of errors some like [0.135812]  PCI:Bios Bug MCFG area at f0000000 is not E820 - reserved, then bunch more some about acpi and a kernel panic not synching exception at interrupt
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> it's a bootable disk though, so you'll have to boot off of it
[07:31] <firephoto> JuJuBee: have you updated the bios on that to the latest?
[07:31] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: boot maschine with wind?
[07:31] <frojnd> win*
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> anywho, I'll be back in a bit. I gotta do my job
[07:31] <Tm_T> !away | Ashex|Work
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, no, download the .iso from there, burn it to a cd, and boot off the cd
[07:31] <ubotu> Ashex|Work: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> Tm_T, letting the people I'm helping know :P
[07:31] <Tm_T> Ashex|Work: letting what?
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> that I'll be dissapearing for a bit, so not to get pissy and bitch about crappy help
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> It's happened in the best, so I try to keep them in the know
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> past*
[07:31] <Tm_T> Ashex|Work: Yes, you can say you're going away if you're in the middle of something, but I assume that endpart of your nick is "awaynick".
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> heh, not really
[07:31] <frojnd> is possible to burn .iso on the usb stick?
[07:31] <Tm_T> Ok then, carry on and thanks for being active. :)
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> I'm connected from my work desktop, and I leave my home machine idling in here
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> hehe, no problem :p
[07:31] <frojnd> couse I have a delling with 3mb
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, it's possible
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> you can use isolinux to boot off usb
[07:31] <Ashex|Work> I have a guide for running a live cd off a usb stick
[07:32] <Ashex|Work> lemme link you
[07:32] <khirr> how can i configure 3d aceleration for my linux?
[07:32] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, http://www.chipnick.com/thumbdrive-linux/
[07:32] <frojnd> tnx again Ashex|Work
[07:32] <Ashex|Work> no problem
[07:33] <dromer> this is my current xorg.conf: http://sneeuw.zapto.org/~dreamer/xorg.conf  but what can I change so the desktop on my main screen is actually extended?
[07:34] <Ashex|Work> frojnd, fyi, i just noticed that my last wp upgrade butchered the formatting, so pardon the lack of paragraphs
[07:34] <soulrider> !nvidia | khirr
[07:34] <ubotu> khirr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:34] <frojnd> Ashex|Work: np I have time
[07:35] <chavo> dromer, have you tried running nvidia-settings?
[07:35] <Pensa`MIA> kmail keeps deleting messages in my inbox of an imap server, and when I get a new message notificiation and look in the kmail inbox folder there aren't any new ones :s
[07:35] <Pensa`MIA> god knows how much mail I lost
[07:39] <dromer> chavo: how do I run this?
[07:39] <chavo> dromer, from the command line
[07:39] <dromer> ah, got it :)
[07:40] <dromer> hmm, the problem is there are two separate desktops, I can't join them in nvidia-settings
[07:40] <chavo> you want your desktop mirrored on both displays?
[07:41] <dromer> no I want the main desktop extended over the two, so I could drag a program to the tv and full-screen it there
[07:43] <khirr> in windows i saw mi vidoe card is s3
[07:43] <khirr> my mainboard is msi
[07:45] <dromer> chavo: atm I have two separate desktops that I can control with the keyboard and mouse of the pc, other settigns I tried it just made X think the CRT is a widescreen :S
[07:45] <dromer> I want both at the same time :P
[07:46] <chavo> dromer, try this cd /etc/X11, sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[07:46] <chavo> it will make a backup of xorg.conf it it doesn't work
[07:49] <dromer> ok, thnx, letme try :)
[07:49] <dromer> ah shit, it overwrited my old backup :S ah well, this one works
[07:49] <dromer> ok brb
[07:50] <chavo> I keep several backups of xorg.conf since I'm always tweaking it
[07:52] <riccardo_> hello world
[07:55] <BayRoot> is it possible to get FlashPlayer working with AMD64?
[07:56] <Ashex|Work> BayRoot, yes
[07:56] <Skuller> !flash64
[07:56] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:56] <BayRoot> thanks
[07:58] <Skuller> BayRoot: np
[07:59] <BayRoot> Package ia32-libs-gtk has no installation candidate   -> my result from the 1st step.
[08:00] <Skuller> BayRoot: sorry i have no knowledge more than the factoid....please refer 2 someone else
[08:01] <BayRoot> Skuller: thanks for the help. Hopefully i'll get it going.
[08:03] <Ayabara> I'm trying to compile krusader from source. Do I miss packages if KDEDIR and QTDIR is not set?
[08:05] <LycanNyc-work> so im trying to remove gdm and now openoffice wants to go too how do i stoppopen from going
[08:06] <Skuller> BayRoot: you there?
[08:06] <Skuller> BayRoot: you need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[08:06] <Skuller> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:20] <hakro> Hi, I've a problem lmms on a kubuntu edgy eft 6.10. Since i've changed the sound config, on every lmms start, he say "segmentation fault". The last config i've changed is OSS.
[08:23] <huib> hakro : have no clue. Remove - reinstall sound perhaps?
[08:29] <genii> hakro Try using alsa then
[08:29] <genii> Skuller Actually Super Cow Powers is an easter egg in ap-get :)
[08:29] <Skuller> damn
[08:29] <genii> *apt-get*
[08:29] <Skuller> lol..ok
[08:30] <Skuller> k laterz genii..thnx fer da mousetrap help yest
[08:30] <genii> Skuller: Try sudo apt-get moo    to see it
[08:30] <genii> Skuller np :)
[08:30] <Skuller> LOL
[08:30] <spitwise> heheh
[08:31] <genii> spitwise Don't spill the beans ;)
[08:31] <fdoving> genii: tried 'aptitude moo -v' add more v's till it doesn't change :)
[08:31] <trycyt> What package is ipp in?
[08:31] <Julle> To be able to boot up kubuntu or DSL for example on an old laptop (166mhz pentium) is a bootdisc required, not the actual LiveCD itself?
[08:32] <trycyt> apt-file search ipp does not turn up anything.
[08:32] <genii> fdoving :)
[08:33] <genii> When i'm getting frusta=rated at commandline I sometimes do it to lighten up
[08:33] <Mo-Z> Ok... so my KAudio Creator wont rip my cd. Not in any code. (using edgy)... when its done copying the track and is about to encode, it cant make a folder....
[08:33] <Mo-Z> anyone knows?
[08:34] <genii> Julle Does this old box have a CD drive?
[08:34] <fdoving> genii: apropos frustrated at the commandline, tried the 'sl' package?
[08:35] <LycanNyc-work> so im trying to remove gdm and now openoffice wants to go too how do i stoppopen from going
[08:35] <genii> fdoving Not lately ... I'd do it right now but am on W2K and not patched in somewhere ubuntu by putty
[08:35] <fdoving> genii: try it when you get back to some sane system :)
[08:36] <genii> fdoving Will do
[08:37] <esaym> whats the command to see what a symbolic links points to?
[08:38] <esaym> >_<
[08:38] <esaym> lol
[08:38] <Mo-Z> Ok... so my KAudio Creator wont rip my cd. Not in any code. (using edgy)... when its done copying the track and is about to encode, it cant make a folder....
[08:41] <BluesKaj> installed FF 2.0.0.2 but now it defaults to 90% of the full page and I've forgotten the trick to default it to full page ... not serious but still annoying , Does anyone remember the procedure to make the default page 100% .Page setup doesn't solve it
[08:42] <jhutchins> esaym: ls -l
[08:42] <jhutchins> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[08:42] <jhutchins>  http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:42] <fdoving> !cli
[08:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:43] <genii> Julle Still here?
[08:43] <esaym> jhutchins: thank you,  I was thinking it was ls
[08:43] <esaym> I mean ln
[08:43] <Julle> genii yes
[08:45] <Julle> genii the old laptop got a cd-drive yes and i can browse the content of the cd inside win98 which is the primary OS atm. But when i try to boot up DSL or any other LiveCD dist it only boots up to win98, and yes i have changed the settings inside BIOS to boot from cd first
[08:46] <dromer> chavo: didn't work :(
[08:48] <genii> Julle For a laptop you could use one of 2 methods booting from floppy. Tho Ubuntu does not have native bootdisks. The first, if the laptop has a cd, is to use BootManager disk from http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html then select CD  to continue from. If no CD, then make a netboot floppy from http://www.rom-o-matic.net/ and then setup a PXE/netboot server with some desktop.
[08:49] <jhutchins> esaym: ln is link.
[08:50] <jhutchins> Ah, I see why you'd think that.
[08:50] <Louck> how can i erase terminal histroy ?
[08:50] <genii> Julle Network install instructions for second method can be found at http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[08:50] <esaym> ls reads and ln links.  I don't know I just thought it would use the same command
[08:51] <jhutchins> ls = list.
[08:51] <Louck> how can i erase terminal histroy ?
[08:51] <trycyt> rm .bash_history if you're using bash. .history if you're using a csh variant.
[08:51] <Innosense> So guys...if system sounds are working but for some reason no video or audio sound is comming out...how would I fix that?
[08:52] <Julle> gentii Thank you Very much for you easy and informative answer!
[08:53] <genii> Innosense rightclick on speaker icon. open mixer. unmute all PCM devices
[08:53] <genii> Julle You are very welcome
[08:54] <Innosense> In Kmix if the button is green, are they muted or unmuted?
[08:55] <Innosense> becuase all of them are gree except for one called "3d control sigmatel -de" and that doesn't have a switch
[08:57] <AMSmith42> How can I get a network activity icon in the panel?
[08:57] <fdoving> AMSmith42: have a look at the knemo package.
[08:57] <AMSmith42> thank you
[08:59] <Innosense> wow it does work now, thanks genii
[08:59] <genii> Innosense np :)
[09:01] <dobermann_> how can i
[09:01] <dobermann_> clear terminal history
[09:02] <principo> hallo, kann mir jemand helfen???
[09:02] <fdoving> !de | principo
[09:02] <ubotu> principo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:02] <fdoving> dobermann_: delete ~/.bash_history  and run 'history -c'
[09:03] <AMSmith42> fdoving: I installed knemo with apt-get...where did it put it?
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> I absolutely give up on OpenOffice. http://sphinx.quickfox.org/~ash-fox/temp/OOo.png
[09:03] <fdoving> AMSmith42: you need to restart kded, it's easiest to login again.
[09:04] <AMSmith42> Ah, OK
[09:04] <AMSmith42> Thank you.
[09:06] <fdoving> dobermann_: 'rm ~/.bash_history' then 'history -c' if you want the commands.
[09:08] <dobermann_> ok done
[09:08] <dobermann_> how can ' setup firefox
[09:08] <Kr[4] t05> I'm using wminput to setup my wii remote to work with my computer and I'm told by the wiili.org guide to edit a file in /etc/udev/rules.d to allow all users to access uinput. Which file should I edit?
[09:10] <dobermann_> how can ' setup firefox
[09:11] <fuel> !firefox | dobermann_
[09:11] <ubotu> dobermann_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:11] <genii> dobermann_: Use aptitude or Synaptic to install it from the list
[09:11] <fuel> dobermann_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:11] <dobermann_> im usin kubuntu
[09:11] <genii> dobermann_: Or from konsole with command fuel just gave
[09:11] <fuel> dobermann_: right alt+f2 -> konsole -> sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:12] <dobermann_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:12] <dobermann_> Building dependency tree
[09:12] <dobermann_> Reading state information... Done
[09:12] <dobermann_> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:12] <dobermann_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:12] <dobermann_> is only available from another source
[09:12] <dobermann_> E: Package firefox has no installation candidat
[09:13] <tsdgeos> mozilla-firefox?
[09:13] <fuel> !pastebin | dobermann_
[09:13] <ubotu> dobermann_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:13] <fuel> dobermann_ : did you edit your sources.list ?
[09:13] <dobermann_> no
[09:13] <frojnd> how do I check if apache on my server is running ?
[09:13] <frojnd> on my edgy ;)
[09:14] <fuel> dobermann_: http://ubuntuguide.org . you have all the installation procedures here
[09:14] <fuel> dobermann_: though its unofficial
[09:14] <fuel> !blender
[09:14] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[09:15] <genii> dobermann_: do:  sudo apt-get update                     then, the install command for firefox again
[09:16] <frojnd> how do I check if apache is running ?
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> !openoffice
[09:16] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[09:16] <dobermann_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:16] <dobermann_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:17] <dobermann_> genii
[09:17] <fuel> frojnd: ping your 80 port
[09:17] <fuel> dobermann_: dont dont paste your stuff here!
[09:17] <fuel> dobermann_: use pastebin!!!
[09:17] <frojnd> fuel: ping like ping port:80 ?
[09:18] <fuel> frojnd: open your browser and http://localhost
[09:18] <fuel> frojnd: or ask in #apache
[09:18] <dobermann_> fuel im newbie
[09:18] <Daskreech> can I move tabs in konqueror?
[09:18] <dobermann_> wht are u talkin about
[09:18] <Daskreech> hi dobermann_
[09:18] <fuel> dobermann_: so am i . Just dont paste stuff here
[09:18] <Daskreech> Welcome to kubuntu
[09:18] <Daskreech> !paste | dobermann_. Please read this
[09:18] <ubotu> dobermann_. Please read this: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:19] <genii> dobermann_: Some other process is updating programs or installing something. If you have more than 1 konsole open make sure only one is trying to use a program like apt-get . If this looks OK, then your system is likely running a scheduled update. On top right of screen should be a little icon which says something like this if you hover the mouse over it.
[09:20] <genii> dobermann_: If this is the case, just let it finish.
[09:21] <Daskreech> can I move tabs in konqueror?
[09:22] <fuel> Daskreech: i dont think so
[09:22] <fuel> Daskreech: #kde
[09:22] <Daskreech> I don't think they have a different answer :)
[09:22] <fuel> Daskreech: :D
[09:22] <fuel> !google move tabs konqueror
[09:24] <fuel> Daskreech: http://www.google.com/search?q=move+tabs+konqueror
[09:24] <dobermann_> genii help dudee
[09:25] <genii> dobermann_: No probs
[09:25] <Daskreech> Wheeeeee :)
[09:25] <Daskreech>  Ctrl+shift and direction
[09:25] <genii> dobermann_: Did you find out if your system is updating itself?
[09:25] <dobermann_> done genii
[09:25] <dobermann_> thanks you are my man
[09:26] <genii> dobermann_: OK, so now you could install firefox by the package manager... Synaptic or Aptitude :)
[09:26] <dobermann_> yeah u are my man ehe
[09:27] <jorge__> i need install a wireless
[09:27] <Daskreech> !wifi
[09:27] <jorge__> in my kubuntu
[09:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:27] <jorge__> yep
[09:31] <Daskreech> jorge__: read the link. It should help :)
[09:35] <luca> hi everyone
[09:36] <genii> luca Hi. You have some question regarding Kubuntu to ask?
[09:37] <luca> yes
[09:37] <luca> I have recently cloned my hard disk with kubuntu into a new drive
[09:38] <luca> it starts ok, cnfiguration is fine, BUT it appears as if I have no swap partition - still the partition exists :(
[09:39] <Daskreech> Format!! :)
[09:39] <Daskreech> how do you know you have no swap partition?
[09:40] <genii> luca Please use the pastebin website to paste the contents of the file /etc/fstab and the results of the command   ls /dev/hd?? /dev/sd??
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> a format actually helped me for a change
[09:41] <luca> genii: sure thing
[09:43] <luca> no sd btw
[09:43] <genii> luca if the partition exists in /dev and in fstab as a swap mount you may need to do the command mkswap. But I will know after reading your paste
[09:43] <filthpig> hi
[09:43] <luca> ok pasting right now - I have 6 hda by the way, hda1 hda2 etc.
[09:44] <RadiantFire> if you mkswap you also have to swapon
[09:44] <RadiantFire> or bad things happen
[09:44] <RadiantFire> and then you have to mount it
[09:44] <genii> RadiantFire: Yes :)
[09:44] <filthpig> I'm going to insert a new hard drive into my computer, and the one that has to go out is the one I have my linux partitions on
[09:44] <makallius> ciao
[09:45] <filthpig> Is there a way for me to backup or reinstall my current settings and installations etc onto the new drive without having to do everything all over again?
[09:45] <luca> it's a bit slow
[09:45] <Daskreech> filthpig: keep your ~ folder
[09:46] <szaloony> hi, where are the info about screen resolution stored? (I mean the file)
[09:46] <luca> genii http://pastebin.com/898427
[09:46] <makallius> c' qualcuno che parla italiano?
[09:46] <luca> s
[09:46] <genii> luca OK, reading
[09:46] <Cugel> !it | makallius
[09:46] <ubotu> makallius: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:46] <luca> ma non so nulla di linux, va su #kubuntu-it
[09:46] <filthpig> Daskreech: and then just copy it back into place after installing?
[09:46] <Daskreech> filthpig: that's the idea
[09:46] <makallius> ok
[09:46] <makallius> grazie
[09:47] <luca> de nada ;)
[09:47] <genii> wow pastebin is almost at a standstill
[09:47] <luca> yep
[09:47] <Daskreech> rm -rf ?
[09:48] <szaloony> anyone know where is resolution info stored?
[09:49] <Cugel> !xorg.info
[09:49] <filthpig> if I use the backup system-function in kubuntu/kde to make a backup of my system and unpack it after I have changed drives, it will keep all my settings, right?
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Cugel> szaloony: xorg.info
[09:49] <Daskreech> should
[09:49] <genii> luca There is no swap entries in your fstab. What partition is it supposed to be on?
[09:49] <Daskreech> all of your settings are kept in ~
[09:49] <Daskreech> and /etc
[09:50] <Daskreech> keeping a complete copy of those should be ok unless one of the applications has a major upgrade
[09:50] <Daskreech> it will normally migrate things for you then
[09:50] <filthpig> alright
[09:50] <luca> genii it was supposed to be the fourth
[09:50] <filthpig> hm
[09:51] <genii> luca sorry, see it now as UUID=327bbe8a-ac08-43c2-98b6-c78298bdc6e5 (comment above states hda6)
[09:51] <luca> sorry the third
[09:51] <frojnd> I have one q
[09:51] <genii> luca The new UUID thing threw me off :)
[09:51] <frojnd> I've installed xampp via wine
[09:51] <frojnd> but howw can I unistall it??
[09:51] <filthpig> if I install fiesty herd 5 now, can I upgrade it when it's officially released in may?
[09:51] <Daskreech> !upgrade
[09:51] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:52] <Daskreech> Short answer is yetr
[09:52] <Daskreech> yeppers
[09:52] <jack_> hi, i want kword to automatically start on desktop 2 eg, but it stubbornly starts all the time at desktop 4.is there a reason or fix for that?
[09:52] <luca> genii no problem - still I do not understand very well what I have to do though :)
[09:53] <frojnd> hello guys
[09:53] <Cugel> hello forjnd
[09:53] <nailz> hey all, anyone know of a current issue with kubuntu-docs_7.04-2_all.deb on fiesty?
[09:53] <alonea> ok, I had kubuntu and I tried another distro, hated it, and went back to this. Now, adept at some point updated my kernel, but its not doing it now. How do I get it to?
[09:54] <frojnd> how can I remove all that is related with apache, couse I have installed 2 apaches, one with wine (xampp) and one with apt so 2 apaches are running..
[09:54] <genii> luca RadiantFire may give you the correct procedures in order to rebuild it with mkswap if you ask him nicely :)
[09:54] <Daskreech> alonea: did you install a custom kernel?
[09:55] <luca> genii ok thanks ;-)
[09:55] <alonea> Daskreech: umm, no, I just installed from the DVD last night, but I need a later kernel version to get ndiswrapper to work with my wificard. Before, one day it just randomly updated to the next kernel, and I want it to do that again.
[09:56] <Daskreech> alonea: maybe a newer kernel isn't available?
[09:56] <dobermann_> oo yea
[09:56] <genii> luca Ah, he is currently "away"
[09:57] <RadiantFire> oh yeah, about that
[09:57] <RadiantFire> oopsies
[09:57] <alonea> Daskreech: no, I have seen later kernels. I have 2.6.17-11 . On Slack I have 2.6.20.2
[09:57] <RadiantFire> I may have to see if Konversation supports plugin writting, I'd love to write an autoaway plugin
[09:57] <besonen_mobile> i've decided to give kubuntu another try.  just installed 7.04.  very nice.  thanks to all the folks who contributed.
[09:58] <Daskreech> alonea: That ships with feisty
[09:58] <alonea> Daskreech: er, I have Kubuntu Edgy Eft.
[09:58] <Daisuke_Ido> just biding my time for the final release of feisty.  hopefully it will be a painless upgrade from 6.10
[09:59] <Daskreech> alonea: so do I
[09:59] <genii> luca So first we should absolutely ensure that we have the correct partition before continuing. If command   sudo fdisk /dev/hda6    shows a partition type of swap then we are reasonably good to proceed.
[09:59] <alonea> Daskreech: All I know is that ndiswrapper says in the install file it wants 2.6.6
[10:00] <Daskreech> Ah you easily meet that
[10:00] <alonea> Daskreech: then why wont my wifi card come on?
[10:00] <genii> RadiantFire :)
[10:01] <Daskreech> !wifi
[10:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:01] <genii> RadiantFire: Are you already assisting luca or should I just continue?
[10:01] <RadiantFire> oh, no, I haven't
[10:01] <Daskreech> alonea: ^^^
[10:01] <RadiantFire> he stoped talking
[10:01] <Daskreech> See if that URL will help
[10:01] <RadiantFire> if you want me to thats fine
[10:01] <RadiantFire> its only like 3 commands
[10:02] <jack_> hi, i want kword to automatically start on desktop 2 eg, but it stubbornly starts all the time at desktop 4.is there a reason or fix for that?
[10:02] <Daskreech> jack_: Sessions?
[10:02] <RadiantFire> genii: do you need to use volume_id though, since dapper now uses the new libata or soemthing
[10:02] <alonea> Daskreech: well, i have put on my wifi card so many times the same way and now its suddenly not working. I have a broadcom card and I did remove the bcm43xx module. also using the same driver files I used the last few times that worked fine.
[10:02] <genii> RadiantFire: Yeah I know... was just wanting to make sure we had the correct partiton with type swap first before proceeding due to the UUID vs commented-out /dev/hda6 in his fstab
[10:03] <alonea> I am gonna try another uninstall reinstall and see if it helps after I updated everything
[10:03] <Daskreech> alonea: has this happened since the kernel update?
[10:03] <alonea> Daskreech: nope. I never had any problems before once I figured out what I was doing wrong.
[10:04] <Daskreech> alonea: When did it start happening?
[10:04] <genii> RadiantFire: just the device should work. I've done it in 6.06 before
[10:04] <jack_> Daskreech: in changed that in special window behAVIOUR OR application behaviour, what do you mean by settings?
[10:04] <jhutchins> uuid's are just SO wrong.
[10:04] <genii> luca Are you still here?
[10:04] <RadiantFire> genii: then it should just be mkswap /dev/hda6; swapon /dev/hda6; mount -t swap /dev/hda6 sw
[10:04] <jhutchins> Human readable, low-level, common text names that make sense.
[10:04] <genii> jhutchins: I tend to agree
[10:05] <jhutchins> uuid's are heading into MS Registry thinking.
[10:05] <alonea> Daskreech: I just installed this last night. Kubuntu messed up and i had to take it off. So I thought I would try gentoo, which would not install, and slackware hates most of my hardware and it was getting to be too much trouble to get stuff working.
[10:05] <Daskreech> jack_: Not sure waht you are talking about :(
[10:05] <alonea> Daskreech: So I downloaded the dvd last night and put kubuntu back on
[10:05] <luca> genii yep - was distracted here at home
[10:05] <Daskreech> alonea: Ah wifi isn't working now
[10:06] <Daskreech> you did updates?
[10:06] <jack_> Daskreech: i want that there is an open kword document when i start the session, so far so good; kde does the job, but when i choose desktop 1, it always opens the kword in the autostart on desktop 4
[10:06] <genii> luca OK :) So if the command I gave earlier reports /dev/hda6 as type swap then proceed to do the commands RadiantFire gave to re-enable the swap
[10:06] <luca> no no
[10:06] <alonea> Daskreech: nope. Though I am gonna see if it works now after I did the 261 mbs of updates with adept. Maybe it will work now. Almost done reinstalling
[10:06] <luca> hda6 must not be touched :)
[10:06] <luca> it is the IBM recovery partition
[10:06] <Daskreech> jack_: Ah!
[10:06] <luca> it should be hda3
[10:06] <Daskreech> jack_: ask in #kde :)
[10:07] <sbaush> hi all! i've a problem with screensaver in kubuntu edgy
[10:07] <Daskreech> !screensaver
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <luca> genii I'm an idiot - you were right
[10:07] <genii> luca That is why I gave the:  sudo fdisk /dev/sda6     command. It will tell if it is type swap or not
[10:07] <luca> ok the command returns..
[10:07] <makuseru> is there any way to make an avi or mpeg into just an mp3, to have just audio?
[10:07] <luca> it is nothing it recognizes :(
[10:08] <genii> sorry, /dev/hda6 not sda6 ...bleh
[10:08] <alonea> Daskreech: Nope. Still not turning on.
[10:08] <sbaush> i configure the screensaver with kconfig or with systemsetting
[10:08] <genii> luca My booboo hda6 not sda6
[10:08] <Daskreech> What is it doing?
[10:08] <luca> genii i did it right nevertheless, it says it is nothing it recognizes
[10:08] <sbaush> but now that doesn't run
[10:08] <alonea> Daskreech: Have not gotten any errors at all. I get device and hardware present
[10:09] <alonea> Daskreech: and the alternate driver isn't loaded.
[10:09] <Daskreech> did you do a modprobe?
[10:09] <alonea> Daskreech: yes dear...and rmmod bcm43xx (done this many many times...*big sigh*)
[10:10] <Daskreech> the wifi docs don't help?
[10:10] <genii> luca OK. Please then: sudo fdisk /dev/hda           then, type "p" to print the partition table. cut and paste this to a pastebin to examine for swap partition location.
[10:10] <alonea> Well, the last time I had to follow that troubleshoot page ndiswrapper has to get it up, but I have done the same instructions I did before. Gimmie a sec to look at that page you gave me.
[10:11] <genii> luca To exit fdisk without changing anything, use "q"
[10:11] <luca> ok pasting
[10:11] <genii> luca :)
[10:12] <xanith> Can someone help me with this. I'm getting GPG errors from wine, opera and beryl repositories using Edgy 6.1.0. I know there has to be something to fix this?
[10:13] <alonea> Daskreech: ok, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64, the "install necessary packages" does not work for me.
[10:13] <active> hi trying to install kkwlan and i get a error i get a dependency is not satisfiable kdelibs4c2a error any one helppleae
[10:13] <Daskreech> This is on AMD64?
[10:13] <alonea> Daskreech: yes.
[10:13] <Daskreech> Hmm
[10:13] <alonea> Daskreech: this is error I get.
[10:13] <alonea> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:13] <alonea> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:13] <Daskreech> that's way out of my league
[10:14] <genii> xanith use switch --allow-unauthenticated with apt-get or better, install the gpg keys for the repos you are using in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:14] <luca> completely jammed I fear :(
[10:14] <Daskreech> what's the command you are running ?
[10:14] <alonea> Daskreech: I just copy pasted what that page says.
[10:15] <luca> genii pastebin is quite jammed
[10:15] <genii> luca OK. I have to leave for work anyhow. i will return in about 20 minutes however if you can wait.
[10:15] <julle> where can i find Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) live cd?
[10:15] <luca> ok
[10:15] <julle> daily build
[10:15] <genii> luca Or perhaps RadiantFire may feel like assisting
[10:15] <frojnd> how can I remove all that is related with apache, couse I have installed 2 apaches, one with wine (xampp) and one with apt so 2 apaches are running..
[10:15] <xanith> genji, i have been using apt-get, but how do i install the GPG keys?
[10:15] <luca> genii thanks anyhow
[10:16] <RadiantFire> sorry, luca what was your problem?
[10:16] <luca> RadiantFire I have no swap :)
[10:16] <RadiantFire> yeah, but you were trying to pastebin something, I assume an error
[10:16] <genii> xanith The websites for the different repos should have them. Search google with something like "<url pasted from sources.l;ist here>"n gpg key
[10:16] <luca> nope the partition table
[10:16] <xanith> genji, I have the GPG keys but how do i install them?
[10:16] <luca> and pastebin is quite jammed
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, alonea,....  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[10:17] <genii> xanith I would assist more right now but late for work. You can find the answer easily enough yourself by searching
[10:17] <xanith> ok thanks
[10:17] <Daskreech> alonea: on the page it does say that's a hoary methodolgy
[10:17] <BluesKaj> luca, try www.pastebin.ca ..not as crowded
[10:18] <alonea> Daskreech: ah, just saw that now. Well, none of those pages are really gonna help me. I can see if maybe ndiswrapper has a new version
[10:18] <luca> BluesKaj thanks :)
[10:18] <luca> RadiantFire http://www.pastebin.ca/393802
[10:19] <alonea> ...sourceforge is down.
[10:20] <RadiantFire> luca: so your in luck, you have 2 swap partitions
[10:20] <RadiantFire> luca: so basically, make sure that /dev/hda4 and /dev/hda6 are unmounted
[10:21] <luca> RadiantFire none of them working though :) t was the result of a messy format of a previous ubuntu installation..when I reinstalled kubuntu it created a new swap partition instead of taking the existing one. Talking about lng time ago
[10:21] <walter> ciao qualche italiano
[10:21] <RadiantFire> luca: ok, so does that mean they are unmounted?
[10:21] <smurphy> !it
[10:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:21] <BluesKaj> !it
[10:21] <walter> !it
[10:21] <smurphy> *lol*
[10:21] <walter> asd
[10:21] <Daskreech> *sighs*
[10:21] <luca> just a sec
[10:21] <Daskreech> !it
[10:22] <walter> pla italiano aiuto
[10:22] <Daskreech> I just to be cool :(
[10:22] <smurphy> io lo parla gli italiano - ma non il technico :)
[10:22] <walter> asd ok tnx
[10:22] <walter> np
[10:22] <luca> RadiantFire http://www.pastebin.ca/393804
[10:22] <walter> io parlo italiano ma non sono tecnico :D
[10:22] <luca> my fstab
[10:22] <walter> his correct write :D
[10:22] <smurphy> Yeah :)
[10:23] <RadiantFire> luca: can you paste the output of just "mount"
[10:23] <RadiantFire> luca: because theoretically /dev/hda6 should be mounted as a swap for you
[10:23] <rolando> hi
[10:23] <plhardy> io parlo italiano ma under torture only
[10:23] <walter> shhaa
[10:23] <rolando> can i set a different language for each user_
[10:24] <rolando> not only in kde but for everything else
[10:24] <walter> grazie
[10:24] <walter> ce un server italiano ?
[10:24] <walter> italian server? pls ^^
[10:24] <Tm_T> !it
[10:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:25] <Daskreech> !it | walter
[10:25] <ubotu> walter: please see above
[10:25] <luca> RadiantFire surely it is not, however just a second
[10:25] <luca> RadiantFire http://www.pastebin.ca/393811
[10:26] <alonea> Daskreech: *sigh* nope. ndiswrapper 1.38 isn't doing it either
[10:26] <RadiantFire> luca: ok, so it isn't
[10:26] <Daskreech> ok describe your situation
[10:26] <RadiantFire> luca: so, step one mkswap /dev/hda6
[10:27] <luca> ok
[10:27] <RadiantFire> luca: then swapon /dev/hda6
[10:28] <luca> ok
[10:28] <RadiantFire> luca: now try mount -t swap /dev/hda6 sw
[10:28] <luca> well it is ALREADY seen
[10:29] <luca> I have my swap right now :)
[10:29] <luca> should I try your command nevertheless?
[10:29] <RadiantFire> you should have to mount it to be seen
[10:29] <luca> ok
[10:30] <luca> mount point sw does not exist
[10:30] <RadiantFire> well thats bad
[10:30] <cpk1> anyone have any idea where I can start with what I think is an X session problem? wine wont run inside my X session but if I log in another user in a new X session wine works fine even working out of my normal users wine dir
[10:31] <bbeck_> Does anyone know how to set up spell checking in Kopete?
[10:31] <RadiantFire> luca:  all I can say is, perhaps kernels have changed since I was familiar
[10:31] <RadiantFire> luca: apparently they have... I'm sorry
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> bbeck_: you need to install all the spell checker packages(mostly dictionarys.. I think the main one is Kspell
[10:32] <luca> RadiantFire: still i have my swap now :-S
[10:32] <bbeck_> nosrednaekim: It's working fine in Kontact.
[10:32] <RadiantFire> :-)
[10:32] <RadiantFire> there is a button bbeck_
[10:32] <RadiantFire> and you can't be using the richtext formatting
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> bbeck_: oh..ok.. in that case, you have to run off formatting
[10:33] <luca> let me see a thing...
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> *turn
[10:33] <tommy> Ngon som vet varfr OpenOffice 2.2 krachar s fort man frsker  kolla vilka synliga knappar man har aktiverade ( nedre raden)
[10:34] <ari> is that normal that my upgrades notifier tells me that ubuntu feisty is ready to be installed !?!
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> ari: yes.... but you don't have to do it
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> in fact, I reccomend against it
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> especcialy if its your main computer
[10:35] <ari> thanks. i was wondering if it was because i just tried to install beryl or something like that.
[10:37] <acemo> quite funny to see there being about 75-100 mb on updates for feisty each day
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> acemo: yikes!!
[10:39] <acemo> nosrednaekim, its no problem.. high speed internet at school (10 megabyte per seconds updating is sweet)
[10:39] <nysosym> i have a problem, i wanne open a password protected 7zip file, with p7zip i can open the file, but how can i define the password?
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> well here on dial up I think I'd have  BIT of a problem
[10:40] <Daskreech> acemo: 64k not so great
[10:40] <acemo> daskreech, yea.. u better wait till final version then ;P
[10:41] <acemo> running feisty for a week now.. only 2 crashes so far :)
[10:42] <Daskreech> I'll start running it when it hits freeze
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> wow...
[10:42] <Daskreech> I'm running from Live Cd :)
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> I was think about getting it when it goes bet
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> *beta
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> oi.  i really didn't expect it to be *this* difficult to find a decent gba emulator (mednafen hates me, and vba has insane issues with sound)
[10:43] <sampan> i have a swap question.  top and htop show that I'm using swap memory (and the swap partition is in my fstab), but in the system settings --> disks and filesystems it shows the swap as "disabled" -- which do i believe?
[10:43] <acemo> daisuke_ido: sorry, i forgot how the gba emulator i used is named.. but let me search a bit, maybe i can find it ;)
[10:44] <iamsam9895_> WTF?
[10:44] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no$gba, boycott advance (sort of, i guess), mednafen, and vba.  loved vba in windows, but it's gone evil
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> sampon, do " free -m "
[10:45] <iamsam9895> nickserv identify athlon
[10:45] <iamsam9895> uhh
[10:45] <iamsam9895> CLEAR!
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> nice passwd...;)
[10:45] <iamsam9895> /clear!
[10:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and this is why we always identify in status
[10:45] <iamsam9895> Please!
[10:45] <Daskreech> !gba
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> haha
[10:45] <iamsam9895> Shiiiite.
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <iamsam9895> Somebody take it, I dare you.
[10:46] <sampan> nosrednaekim  that shows that i'm using swap (same info as top/htop show) -- that mean the kde disk-filesystems module thingy is borked somehow?
[10:46] <Daskreech> iamsam9895: Jsut change the password :)
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, that would be mean
[10:46] <varusso> 7j # ubuntu-es
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> and completely against the spirit of the channel
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> could always try vba under wine
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i know offlinelist doesn't work, although i don't know why
[10:48] <iamsam9895> Daskreech: How do I change it?
[10:48] <Daskreech>  try /msg nickserv help
[10:48] <bunnyfoofoo> thanks
[10:51] <iamsam9895> nickserv set password 3B|!nD|\/|!(3
[10:51] <iamsam9895> Oh, you've got to be kidding me.
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> you have to put a  "/msg" b4 that
[10:52] <iamsam9895> just a /nickserv works
[10:52] <iamsam9895> I forgot on fecking slash
[10:52] <iamsam9895> one*
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> well you're the one messing up...
[10:53] <iamsam9895> YAY
[10:53] <iamsam9895> Success.
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> horay...
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> I assume you didn't use one of those two passwords...
[10:54] <iamsam9895> Of course
[10:54] <alonea> anyone know why my wifi card isn't coming on? I used ndiswrapper and I did remove the "alternate" driver like I did before. but its not working anymore.
[10:54] <iamsam9895> It hates you.
[10:54] <iamsam9895> You touch it in bad places.
[10:54] <iamsam9895> Sorry, I'm a bit out of it.
[10:54] <iamsam9895> If you scroll up, you will understand.
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, got the linux version of vba working...  the sound is horrible though :(
[10:55] <folds> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e9 is wrong
[10:56] <Ash-Fox> !freetype
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <folds> for Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 there is on add
[10:56] <folds> there is no add button in synaptic > repos
[10:56] <wolferines> do you just say it as k-ubuntu?
[10:56] <wolferines> or all one word?
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i just say it as one word
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> koo-BOON-too
[10:57] <wolferines> boon, or bun?
[10:58] <sampan> i end out saying "kuh-boon-too"  :/
[10:58] <folds> how do i get windows codecs. the documentation is wrong. being https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <acemo> folds: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[10:59] <Daisuke_Ido> folds: it's in "third party"
[10:59] <Daisuke_Ido> in the repository dialog
[10:59] <folds> what repo dialog
[10:59] <folds> i added multivers and universe
[10:59] <johannes> hola
[11:00] <johannes> como puedo configurar mi mouse inalambrico en kubuntu
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> #es | johannes
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | johannes
[11:00] <ubotu> johannes: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> there we go
[11:00] <cHALo_22> ahhhh
[11:01] <johannes> ok muchas gracias
[11:01] <cHALo_22> grasias
[11:01] <cHALo_22> :$
[11:01] <cHALo_22> los amo
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> folds: "manage repositories" brings up the repository dialog
[11:01] <cHALo_22> :$
[11:01] <alonea> anyone at all know what else I could check to see why my wifi card isn't coming on?
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a tab in there for third party apt repositories
[11:02] <folds> is this in synaptic?
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't used it recently though.  been using adept
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> oh
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> they have changed synaptic
[11:03] <Daskreech> alonea: does it turn up in lspci -v
[11:04] <alonea> Daskreech: yes
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> folds: Settings > Repositories, perhaps?
[11:04] <Daskreech> alonea: Ok but drivers are not getting loaded?
[11:05] <johannes> hola
[11:05] <johannes> kisiera ayuda
[11:05] <alonea> Daskreech: nope. My wifi card light will come on if its working, initialised, etc.
[11:05] <johannes> para  configurar mi mouse
[11:05] <Daskreech> hola
[11:05] <Daskreech> !es
[11:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:06] <alonea> Daskreech: and there are no errors that I see so far from ndiswrapper
[11:06] <johannes> daskreech hablas espaol?
[11:06] <alonea> Daskreech: though dmesg says it could not prepare or load driver bcmwl5.
[11:07] <Daskreech> alonea: is that the right driver?
[11:08] <Daskreech> johannes: no
[11:08] <Daskreech> !es | johannes
[11:08] <ubotu> johannes: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:09] <lorderunion> i accidently lost the "file edit settings help, etc" bar in konqueror. how can i get it back?
[11:09] <ataraxis> ctrl+m
[11:09] <lorderunion> heh. that was easy
[11:09] <lorderunion> thank you
[11:09] <alonea> Daskreech: yes, thats the name and the same exact driver I have been using on all the distros that I have been trying out, including the last time I had Kubuntu.
[11:09] <Daskreech> johannes: Ok?
[11:10] <Morvok_zZz> any know of where I can get cheap motherboard cages?
[11:10] <Daskreech> alonea: what does sudo modprobe bcmwl5 do ?
[11:12] <jlist> howdy. ok. I did something stupid and i need some help here, badly :)
[11:13] <jlist> i uninstalled gcc 4.0 and gcc 4.0 base!
[11:13] <jlist> and lots of packages are goine, including apt-get :(
[11:13] <jlist> w/o apt-get, i don't know how to get the rest of the missing packages back
[11:13] <alonea> Daskreech: its not a module. that is the driver that ndiswrapper is using btw
[11:14] <fdoving> jlist: how did you manage to remove apt-get ?
[11:14] <jlist> is there any fix to my problem?
[11:14] <jlist> fdoving i uninstalled gcc 4.0 and gcc 4.0 base!
[11:14] <fdoving> jlist: are you -sure- apt-get is gone?
[11:14] <fdoving> jlist: you don't need gcc for apt-get to work.
[11:14] <folds> i enabled unverse yet libdvdcss is not there
[11:14] <jlist> i guess they all depend on gcc 4.0 or gcc 4.0 base
[11:15] <jlist> when i type apt-get, it's no longer available
[11:15] <jlist> along with many many other apps
[11:15] <jlist> no X, of course. no aptitude, no many other things, including apt-get
[11:15] <fdoving> jlist: ok, you're right, hang on.
[11:15] <alonea> ok, with lilo you can edit lilo.conf to add stuff to boot, what about grub?
[11:16] <alonea> I need to do/try noapic nolapic acpi=off
[11:16] <bobbin> Hey there, if I install stuff for KDE4 from "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main", will my KDE3.5 stay undamaged?
[11:16] <fdoving> jlist: do you have the command 'wget' ?
[11:16] <folds> where is libdvdcss
[11:16] <fdoving> bobbin: that's the idea. i haven't tried myself, but it should stay undamanged.
[11:17] <jlist> fdoving, i'm not sure. not at the console right now but suppose i do, what can i do?
[11:17] <acemo> bobbin: ill tell u in a bit if it keeps KDE3.5 undamaged
[11:17] <fdoving> jlist: is this a dualboot machine?
[11:17] <sbaush> do you know a analog software to bum (for gnome) in kubuntu?
[11:17] <fdoving> jlist: or can you walk over to it and check if you have wget or not?
[11:17] <jlist> it's a vmware machine
[11:17] <sbaush> bum is the acronym of boot up manager
[11:17] <bobbin> fdoving: I'll keep my Knoppix DVD on stand-by, then.
[11:18] <bobbin> acemo: thanks
[11:18] <jlist> fdoving - i'll have to do it a bit later, don't have access to it right now
[11:19] <Daskreech> alonea: I think it would get loaded as a modukle
[11:19] <Morvok> jlist: does aptitude still work?
[11:19] <folds> jesus christ.  the search on dvd has a result for everything but playing dvd's!
[11:19] <Morvok> jlist: aptitude install apt-get
[11:19] <folds> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dvd&titlesearch=Titles
[11:20] <alonea> Daskreech: no. its never been a module. its not supposed to be.
[11:20] <Daskreech> alonea: Ok :)
[11:20] <Daskreech> I don't have wifi or AMD64 so ... I'm just going off wiki stuff :)
[11:20] <fdoving> jlist: ok, the idea is to go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the apt package, then get libgcc1, gcc-4.0-base, and apt.
[11:20] <alonea> Daskreech: You want ndiswrapper, a module, to in a sense read the driver like windows would and interpret it for linux
[11:20] <Daskreech> right
[11:20] <Daskreech> Or right
[11:21] <acemo> bobbin: 5 min till the download is done
[11:21] <fdoving> jlist: you can do this on another computer. then copy them over to a cd, or something, then 'sudo dpkg -i <packages>'
[11:21] <fernando> anyone know now if umbrello does inverseingeniering with c++ code?
[11:21] <fdoving> jlist: is this a dapper install?
[11:21] <folds> where is libdvdcss for edgy
[11:22] <acemo> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:22] <acemo> tomorrow i got no school
[11:22] <folds> where is libdvdcss for edgy
[11:23] <Ash-Fox> http://sphinx.quickfox.org/~ash-fox/temp/OOo1.png <- anyone have any suggestions for my font rendering issues? I've already tried alternative freetype rendering packages off ubuntuforums, I've already messed with fontconfig a zillion times.
[11:23] <acemo> now i can mess up this installation totaly, i got all the time of the world to re-install tomorrow :)
[11:23] <seth> can anyone help me with an issue im having with quakeworld?
[11:24] <sbaush> what's the default runlevel in kubuntu?
[11:24] <fdoving> sbaush: 2.
[11:24] <acemo> *starts making backup of important files
[11:24] <bobbin> acemo:ok. I got it on preview and will put the snapshots on the wiki tomorrow if it doesn't all pear out when I click "get on with it".
[11:24] <sbaush> fdoving: thanks
[11:24] <seth> im trying to execute glqwcl.glx and it keeps telling me the file does not exist
[11:25] <seth> yet when i ls its right there
[11:25] <folds> no one in here plays dvd's ?!"?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!
[11:25] <acemo> bobbin: im installing kde4 atm, ill let u know how it goes for me when am done installing
[11:25] <Roey> hey heyyhi
[11:25] <Roey> hi
[11:26] <Roey> how do I read values into variables with 'read'?
[11:26] <Roey> echo "8 9 10" | read a b c
[11:26] <bobbin> acemo:sure. I'll do the same. Currently at 5% downloaded.
[11:26] <Roey> that doesn't work
[11:26] <acemo> 22sec left to download
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> folds: when you enabled universe and multiverse...  did you reload your package information?
[11:26] <seth> bah i just want to play quake so bad
[11:27] <seth> does anyone know why bash might tell me an executable file doesn't exist when it does?
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> is it executable?
[11:27] <seth> you mean permissions?
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[11:27] <fdoving> Roey: i think you need to read it into one variable, then split by space.
[11:27] <seth> i chmod +x it
[11:28] <seth> thats didnt seem to work
[11:28] <Roey> fdoving how?
[11:28] <Roey> I am not sure of this
[11:28] <Daskreech> !libdvdcss
[11:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:29] <active> any one any good with kwlan pleae
[11:29] <bobbin> active: what's the problem?
[11:29] <active> installed but it will not find a network
[11:29] <active> i have  wpa running
[11:30] <bobbin> active: did you have the wlan card plugged in and switched on before boot? I've found that can be an issue.
[11:31] <bobbin> active: I mean, reboot after install
[11:31] <active> its a internal card and it was on in the laptop
[11:31] <fdoving> Roey: don't have time to explain splitting and all.. but an example usage of read: http://rafb.net/p/8he7Wg16.html
[11:31] <active> and i have rebooted
[11:31] <bobbin> Is the wireless lock led (if there is one) switched on before boot?
[11:32] <active> its just on all the time
[11:32] <seth> man im dying here anyone got any ideas?
[11:32] <bigdad1e> hello everyone
[11:32] <seth> i have an executable that i cant run because bash tells me the file doesn't exist
[11:32] <gioacchino> hello anyone know sintax of sudoers ?
[11:32] <bigdad1e> how do i unrar a video so i can play it with vlc?
[11:33] <acemo> unrar e filename or unrar x filename.. not sure wich one it was
[11:34] <bigdad1e> my ark says the utility unrar is not in ur path
[11:34] <active> how can i delete kwlan so i can reinstall it/
[11:34] <ubuntu> hi there
[11:35] <acemo> bigdad1e install unrar first
[11:35] <bobbin> active:I don't know. maybe you can type iwconfig in a console and pastebin the output.
[11:35] <acemo> sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:36] <bobbin> acemo:how's that kde4 install panning out?
[11:36] <bigdad1e> u guys are the best thanks
[11:36] <acemo> bobbin: could u give me the url for that kde4 install? i just installed i cant see how to start it =P
[11:37] <active> it says no wireless extenensions
[11:37] <pgraves> ello everybody
[11:37] <bobbin> acemo: take a look in /home to see if kde-dev/ is in there.
[11:37] <active> card name is eth0 how should i delte that
[11:37] <ubuntu> could some1 tell me the best way to create partitions in a disk in order to have some different distros installed
[11:38] <bobbin> active:what wireless card do you use?
[11:38] <acemo> bobbin: nope it aint, prolly i installed wrong things
[11:38] <weedar> to chance which dns server is used I can edit resolv.conf ?
[11:38] <cyr> hi there
[11:38] <cyr> does anyone know about mpls ?
[11:38] <acemo> only got the deb url, so i tried out something myself
[11:39] <yuki> I am unable to connect to a wireless network using WEP, but connecting to an unencrypted WLAN works like a charm.  Does anyone have an idea of how to fix that? :P
[11:39] <pgraves> I was mounting some Samba shares on my Kubuntu box and everything worked fine when I manually mounted them. However, as soon as I tried to do it automatically (via /etc/fstab) I had a major lag in boot-up and could not mount the samba drive..... from what Im reading online, this is a known issue with ubuntu (or at least it was a known issue witn Breezy)
[11:39] <active> Dell Wireless 1500 Draft 802.11n WLAN mini Card
[11:39] <bobbin> acemo: mine seems to be putting things there. By fluke I already had set that user up with its folder by following the instructions at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[11:40] <acemo> bobbin: tnx, ill try that
[11:40] <pgraves> Any recommendations on the best way to fix my issue without having to manually mount the samba drive?
[11:41] <bobbin> acemo: but I'm only at 95% download so I don't know what's going on and the only glint of hope is that the folder now has kde/ in it timestamped at 2233.
[11:42] <bobbin> acemo:which means it could really easily be unrelated to anything I did with Adept. It's still at <50% installed.
[11:44] <folds> how do i play dvds
[11:44] <fernando> always when kubuntu start and I have plug an usb o external hardisk, the kernel do not start..why?
[11:45] <folds> saveas is woefully wrong http://rafb.net/p/O8p2nl96.html
[11:46] <sbaush> hi all
[11:46] <sbaush> i have a problem
[11:46] <sbaush> with acpid
[11:46] <sbaush> sbaush@sbaush-laptop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[11:46] <sbaush>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                            [ ok ] 
[11:46] <sbaush>  * Starting ACPI services...                                                 acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[11:47] <bobbin> active:see what you get from typing in "lsmod" in konsole. More useful might be to Google your card's name with "linux" or your distro name. Wireless cards can be a pain. Years back I had to do stuff installing from source with at Atmel-based external wlan card.
[11:49] <Ashex|Work> anyone know how well usb bluetooth devices are supported in linux?
[11:50] <folds> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas/all libdvdcss2 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 403 Forbidden
[11:52] <folds> Daskreech i tried that
[11:52] <folds> it's wrong
[11:54] <ari> i just installed beryl and i wanted to know...is there a way to get back the buttons to the right-top of the window to close, maximize and minimize the window !%!
[11:55] <fdoving> ari: alt+f2 'kwin --replace'
[11:55] <fdoving> nite.
[11:55] <ari> ooooh wow !!! thanks a lot !!!
[11:58] <pappy_> hi all
[11:58] <ari> hello
[11:58] <linuxbomb> my console is garbled and unreadable what should i do?
[11:59] <DjDarkman> hy ,where can I ask feisty questions?
[11:59] <pappy_> can someone spare a moment for a quick question?
[11:59] <trycyt> pappy_: What's the question?
[11:59] <fdoving> linuxbomb: type 'reset' (doesn't matter if you see the chars or not)
[11:59] <tarnold> hi all, when i turned my laptop on the display isn't calibrated, i have to scroll around, so there are buttons outside my display and moving the mouse brings them into view, might anyone know how to correct this?
[11:59] <pappy_> how can i test if i have 3d acceleration?
[12:00] <trycyt> pappy_: glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[12:00] <linuxbomb> fdoving: i dont think its even the right resolution
[12:00] <trycyt> pappy_: If you mean if you have the hardware for it, use lshw and grep for whatever you think you might have, Intel, nVidia, ATI, etc.
[12:00] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me how to install ubuntu if I have no internet connection and it wants to download the lists and hangs?
[12:01] <MidMark> someone here that uses kdevelop with php?
[12:01] <pappy_> it says direct rendering : yes
[12:01] <MidMark> every time I hit enter tab isn't automatically entered to reach the last scope opened
[12:01] <trycyt> pappy_: Then there you go, you have 3D acceleration :)
[12:01] <trycyt> pappy_: Assuming, that's what you wanted...
[12:02] <pappy_> great thanks people. now i can play quake 2 right :-)
[12:02] <trycyt> pappy_: I guess so... :P
[12:02] <tarnold> my screen is messed up
[12:02] <pappy_> thx
[12:02] <rockz> is there a application similar to deskbar applet to kde ?
[12:02] <tarnold> the icons and image goes off my physical space and have to move the mouse to get to everyhtign
[12:03] <trycyt> pappy_: No problem. Although, I must put a plug in for enemy territory so that there are more players to play with :)
[12:03] <alex__> hey I want to install flashinto mozilla and it tells me to "Decompress it, then copy libflashplayer.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and flashplayer.xpt to your Mozilla components directory."
[12:03] <pappy_> can i play ET also?
[12:03] <alex__> where is my mozilla plugins directory/ has anyone done this sucecssfully before?
[12:03] <trycyt> pappy_: Yes.
[12:03] <neversfelde> hu
[12:03] <alex__> Can you tell me how...
[12:03] <neversfelde> hello
[12:03] <pappy_> start downloading
[12:04] <DjDarkman> alex__ flashplayer should fint that automaticly
[12:04] <hatta> alex__, it's in ~/.mozilla
[12:04] <sbaush> i have a big problem with guidance-power-manager
[12:04] <DjDarkman> *find
[12:04] <neversfelde> utnubuk: nice nick :D
[12:04] <sbaush> the problem is in http://rafb.net/p/susHsU23.html
[12:04] <alex__> thank you hatta
[12:04] <hatta> most apps store their configuration in a .file or .directory under ~
[12:04] <pappy_> if it not a big bother can i ask something else?
[12:05] <alex__> yeah I'm still new to kubuntu and I just don't understand a lot of things
[12:05] <alex__> like what do the dots and slashs and tildas mean
[12:05] <utnubuk> neversfelde: ty
[12:05] <sbaush> how can i fix the problem in http://rafb.net/p/susHsU23.html
[12:05] <alex__> ~/. stuff like that
[12:05] <sbaush> what could i do to fix?
[12:07] <tarnold> ok all, i restarted the computer and the problem persists, how do i get everything to show on the phsical screen sise
[12:07] <cpk1> alex__: ~ means your home directory and / is going into a new directory
[12:08] <sbaush> i don't know what could i do
[12:08] <alex__> okay
[12:08] <cpk1> alex__: if you type cd ~/.mozilla bash knows what it means =)
[12:08] <alex__> hehe
[12:08] <cpk1> directories that start with . are hidden
[12:08] <alex__> also the thing says that I need to "flashplayer.xpt to your Mozilla components directory."
[12:09] <alex__> where is the components directory, I don't see it in ~/.mozilla
[12:09] <neversfelde> utnubuk: we chosse utnubuk as a common highlight for emergencies. You'll have attention :)
[12:09] <cpk1> alex__: what are you trying to do?
[12:09] <utnubuk> neversfelde: cool, i guess, but what does it mean?
[12:10] <alex__> Install flash
[12:10] <alex__> I think I did this already
[12:10] <alex__> (into firefox)
[12:10] <neversfelde> utnubuk: what does utnubuk mean?
[12:10] <alex__> but flash still won't work
[12:10] <alex__> =(
[12:10] <cpk1> the new flash?
[12:10] <sbaush> nobody that can help me
[12:10] <sbaush> ?
[12:10] <utnubuk> neversfelde: no, 'common highlight for emergencies'
[12:11] <nosrednaekim> whats your problem sbaush
[12:11] <alex__> I guess..
[12:11] <sbaush> my problem is with guidance-power-manager
[12:11] <alex__> Any flash will do really, I guess the newest one would be nice
[12:11] <utnubuk> neversfelde: as in, what type of emergencies?
[12:11] <sbaush> http://rafb.net/p/susHsU23.html
[12:11] <sbaush> i pasted here
[12:11] <sbaush> my problem
[12:12] <neversfelde> utnubuk: I'm part of the german Kubuntu-de.org team and we've searched for a good word to get attention in our team channel
[12:12] <pappy_> ab\nyone cares to answer a question?
[12:12] <neversfelde> utnubuk: I think we have to change now :D
[12:12] <utnubuk> neversfelde: heh