[12:11] LaserJock: always has? === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] for Ubuntu members anyway [12:11] elmo: hmm, for some time I've had to do a RT if I change my preferred address === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] so I thought they were independent of each other for some reason [12:12] LaserJock: well, it's not 100% automated, because I don't trust LP and/or my scripts not to break ubuntu.com for everyone, so the diff gets mailed to us, and we have to ack it before it's applied [12:12] LaserJock: so an RT ticket is a good way of poking people if it's taken more than a couple of days [12:13] elmo: ahh === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] sistpoty: hmm? [12:23] Mithrandir, well, i'm off to sleep. i'd just like to ask about a couple of packages in NEW. UbuntuStudio would like wired and enblend to get in (and they've been there since at least, if not before FF). seb128 said he'd had a look, but would like another ack or someone else to upload it entirely. could you take a peek? thanks :) [12:28] Riddell: sorry, was afk for a moment... just sent a mail to -motu... what do you think of it? [12:32] sistpoty: luka has replied already [12:33] Riddell: just read it... [12:33] Riddell: however by removing the binaries (shortly before feisty releases), you could still make use of the build infrastructure until that point [12:34] Riddell: and afterwards we could have binaries for feisty +1 === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:34] Riddell: the big difference would be that nobody would *need* to support the packages in feisty, once it's released [12:35] Riddell: do you think that would totally defeat the purpose or would this be an option you could live with? [12:37] nobody has to support them anyway, they're just a useful platform to build upon [12:37] yes, it would be pointless to remove the binaries === macd [n=d@adsl-222-8-111.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] hm... ok === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54BEF613.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.64.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === krawek [n=dcuadra@190.144.162.132] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:04] hi [01:05] I have a problem loading shared libraries on dapper, I get: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0 [01:05] any idea? [01:05] I'm compiling a ruby extension [01:06] anybody here want to review a simple patch? bug 91695 [01:06] Malone bug 91695 in gtkgo "Missing a .desktop file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91695 === administrator_ [i=administ@nat/cisco/x-437ea90f206a5f2d] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] krawek, try asking on #ubuntu [01:10] ok === Monk-e is now known as Fifty-Cent === Fifty-Cent is now known as Monk-e === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] danohuiginn, i cannot try it right now, but you could add a changelog entry [01:15] thanks jwendell. Over on #ubuntu-bugs, I was just told to leave the changelog for a maintainer to update, but OK === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === khermans__ [n=khermans@65.96.191.13] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] ok, new ubiquity is *REALLY* broken === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-136-145.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable096.205-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:29] if I edit the changelog,I need to change the version number, right? [01:31] danohuiginn: yeah === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:32] are there docs on that somewhere? [01:34] well, the Ubuntu Packaging Guide [01:34] !packagingguide > danohuiginn [01:35] what is this orange and red thing and what has it done to my login splash? [01:35] got it. thanks === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.64.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lool [i=lool@debian/developer/lool] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hannu [n=blick@p172-28-25-0.nat.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.64.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.203.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-156-119.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@stwgw.stw.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wick2o [n=wick2o@72.25.57.229] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB_ [n=tomb@host217-44-151-84.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] anyone know what is wrong with this line? append debian-installer/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us preseed/file=/cdrom/custom.seed initrd=install/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet -- [02:53] anyoen see an error in this? [02:54] it still prompts me for the locale and kbd-chooser when i try and do my install === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-68-163-243-133.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _csm_win [n=chinloon@221.137.93.87] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity2 is now known as infinity === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9F74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rtg [n=timg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:27] anyone know what is wrong with this line? append debian-installer/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us preseed/file=/cdrom/custom.seed initrd=install/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet -- === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-68-163-243-133.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:28] im having a hard time getting those first few questions preseeded === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-60-242-130-196.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub_ [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@p54BE29F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlF1 [n=carl@216-80-38-102.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72321.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty_ [n=jinty@p54BE45E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TerminX [i=24da814c@adsl-68-122-2-106.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === supervillain [n=joelbrya@124.104.4.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] hello, is there a way to check each .deb file locally from the internet? I want to check it's md5, and signature validity, if it's not tampered by someone else. === mneptok [n=mneptok@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pax [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:51] supervillain: if you create a mirror it should work === pax_ [n=pax@ool-435722d1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:58] for example, I have /var/cache/apt/archives/lynx_2.8.5-1ubuntu2_i386.deb downloaded from ubuntu repository, is there a way I can get the MD5 of this file from the ubuntu repository? [04:58] supervillain, apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic will automatically check it. [05:00] supervillain: I think that the Packages.gz file has the md5sum === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pax__ [n=pax@ool-4356f18c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === styx|3 [n=kvirc@p57A4B611.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:55] there is a need for a Norton Utilities-like thing for Linux ? [05:55] I could code one, inspired on my yesterday hard disk crash === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@200-127-103-224.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Rohinton [n=chatzill@inet-netcache2-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:05] kronoman: If you are referring to something like ghost, there are already several solutions for Linux [06:05] As far as I know anyway. [06:06] Partimage is one that comes to mind. [06:08] I was meaning something that come up when the system fails to boot [06:08] i.e my system crashed / [06:08] so I was dumped to a root terminal [06:08] if I were a grandma, I would have been in trouble to recover my data [06:09] would have been cool instead of the "run fsck manually" a menu with "try to backup data" "check hard disk for errors" etc [06:09] a text menu, I mean [06:09] that would make ubuntu more user friendly , I think === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-222-8-111.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Trewas [n=ilonen@157.24.184.131] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [i=winkle@suiko.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] what I mean is, instead of dumping you to a root console in case of a boot failure, should try to provide with some options to recover, and a "go to root terminal" too [06:23] more like a integrator, for partimage, badblocks, fsck, etc [06:23] all-in-one place to call the tools to save your system === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === administrator_ [i=administ@nat/cisco/x-385a4af870e5445d] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] Good morning [07:29] hey pitti! === Hobbsee hugs pitti :) === pitti hugs Hobbsee back === jdub_ is now known as jdub [07:30] hey pitti === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elkbuntu hands jdub a h00ge bowl of chicken soup. [07:31] :) === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] elkbuntu, he's ill already, better give him something good instead of your soup === Seveas now runs like the wind [07:37] rofl [07:38] shhh.. you'll ruin my plan! === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kateikyoushi [n=kateikyo@nttkyo647147.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.203.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] tsmithe: I can poke at them. [08:14] Mithrandir: can you please give-back workrave on ppc? [08:15] given-back === Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75CC6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mithrandir hugs Hobbsee back [08:16] :) [08:16] good morning [08:16] Mithrandir: thanks [08:17] Hobbsee: you need a proper hackergotchi with just your head and not any background. :-) [08:17] hey Hobbsee [08:18] Mithrandir: people keep saying that, but imbrandon tried, did a shocking job, because i tend to wear my hair down, which means that if you remove my hair, there's not much of my face left. [08:18] heya dholbach! [08:18] morning Mithrandir [08:18] morning, Andrew [08:19] Hobbsee: we could do something like http://planet.tut.no/heads/lene2.png (a friend of mine) ? [08:19] hrm, maybe === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A938A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:21] I could give it a shot if you give me a picture where your head is slightly bigger than 20x20 pixels. :-) [08:21] good morning all === timfrost [n=tim@125-238-177-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:29] Mithrandir: ahh. could be aranged, if you really want [08:30] Hobbsee: I could at least give it a shot. === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@212-139-78-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A67E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-67-141.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero_626 [n=jga@p213.54.183.175.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] _ion: hm, I figured out some required packages for the nvidia_supported script, but it still fails with a NoMethodError === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] mvo: can you confirm bug 91315? [09:12] Malone bug 91315 in restricted-manager "fglrx needs to be modprobed in /etc/modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91315 === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@215.168-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sky_walkie [n=hrdlo@193.85.244.121] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A67BC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] pitti: I give it a go now, but I'm not fully up-to-date [09:27] pitti: I don't have fglrx in my /etc/modules but it still works fine for me [09:28] mvo_: including DRI? [09:29] pitti: yes. let me add a comment to the bugreport [09:29] mvo_: i. e. if X is loaded, it modprobes the module automaticallY? [09:29] mvo_: hmm, anyway, if it doesn't work for some people, I better have r-m add it to /e/modules [09:29] pitti: right, it will not hurt [09:30] iwj: hi [09:30] iwj: sorry I haven't replied to your mail about protocols, got myself into a month long series of sprints [09:30] iwj: I'm doing so now === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_away [n=mike@202.83.118.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === danohuiginn [n=ant@p54BEF7B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] <_ion> pitti: Could you /msg me the whole error, please? === herzi [n=herzi@p548FBFE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] _ion: done [10:15] _ion: I merged your changes to trunk; the new hw detection rocks! [10:15] _ion: there seems to be a race somewhere, though; sometimes I only see 'nvidia', and sometimes I also see the legacy driver [10:16] <_ion> Ouch... That shouldn't happen. :-\ What does lspci -n say about your card? [10:17] _ion: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0322 (rev a1) [10:17] _ion: as I said, sometimes it works correctly [10:17] I didn't figure out a pattern yet; maybe iff the driver is enabled === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@87.52.181.74] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] <_StefanS_> does the current feisty kernel support more than 2gigs of memory ? [10:20] <_ion> CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y [10:20] <_StefanS_> yes that is great... but does the STOCK ubuntu kernel support it ? [10:20] Yes [10:21] <_StefanS_> ok super ! [10:21] <_ion> I pasted it from the stock kernel's config. :-) [10:21] <_StefanS_> _ion: oh, i'm sorry .. I thought you were trying to get smart with me, so meaning I should compile it by myself ;) [10:22] <_StefanS_> (to get the support I wanted) [10:22] <_StefanS_> great, then i'll go out and buy those extra 2gigs for for my lappie :) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@87.52.181.74] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === olemke [n=olemke@193.10.130.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] <_ion> pitti: All right, the version of hpricot in feisty doesn't support the page / 'td[text() ^= "0x"] ' syntax for XPath searches yet. I had installed mechanize with rubygems. I'll modify the script to support the older API. [10:28] _ion: there's no way to replace this with a simple shell/wget script? [10:28] (or urllib) [10:28] <_ion> pitti: Oh. It *does* support the / syntax, but not the XPath expression i'm using. [10:28] <_ion> pitti: Of course it's possible, but it would be 5x longer without the mechanize magic. :-) [10:29] ok :) [10:29] _ion: I'll upload 0.5 now for more widespread testing; we'll need another upload tomorrow anyway I guess (after I got a reply to bug 91315 and maybe fixes for the hw detection) [10:29] Malone bug 91315 in restricted-manager "fglrx needs to be modprobed in /etc/modules" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91315 [10:30] <_ion> pitti: Screen-scraping doesn't get much easier than this: get 'http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html'; click page.links.with.href(link_re); click page.links.with.text(/Supported Products List/); (page / 'td[text() ^= "0x"] ').map {|td| td.inner_html.strip.hex } === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] <_ion> That returns a list like [0x0112, 0x01A0, ...] from a page like http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html [10:31] _ion: sweet ;) [10:32] _ion: I still wonder why they maintain such detailed web pages instead of putting those lists into the modules themselves [10:32] <_ion> pitti: Indeed. [10:33] _ion: uploaded and pushed; can you please merge? === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491F849.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sahin_w [i=kvirc@nat/hp/x-26a144cff4891cbf] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] mvo_: could you have a look at bug #83139 ? it seems that this program uses files that were in update-manager in edgy, but no longer in feisty [10:43] Malone bug 83139 in gapti "[apport] gapti crashed with ImportError in ()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83139 [10:44] Lutin: yes, I can fix that [10:46] mvo_: okay, thanks === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-67-141.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] <_ion> pitti: Pushed the workaround for the version of hpricot in feisty. [10:57] _ion: cool, thank you === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] pitti: In your email re php4, are you referring to my UVF for drupal when you say its fixed in feisty? [11:03] TheMuso: no idea, I just checked drupal's current dependencies, and it has php5 alternatives [11:03] pitti: Oh ok. I was wondering that. [11:04] <_ion> pitti: Btw, is the problem with nvidia_legacy being listed still there after removing /var/cache/restricted-manager/*.restricted? === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-ee23325611cce95c] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] hm, half of gnome failed to build on ppc it seems [11:06] slomo_: yeah, not only on ppc, there is quite some build errors on amd64 and ia64 also [11:06] slomo_: I'll ask for retries when we are done with uploads === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:08] seb128: ok, thanks :) [11:08] Mithrandir: gtkhtml upstream changed the lib name, any objection to upload a new source package, etc? [11:09] Mithrandir: there is just new evolution to build with it, should be straigthforward === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A938A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] could it be that the libwnck for amd64 disappeared somewhere? [11:10] libwnck18 | 2.17.92-0ubuntu2 | http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages [11:11] should be 2.18.0-0ubuntu1 [11:11] dholbach: there is a bunch of things which didn't build on amd64 [11:11] seb128: libwnck did build [11:11] and other stuff ftbfs because the binary is missing [11:11] seb128: go ahead [11:12] Mithrandir: I'm running reprocess-failed-to-move [11:12] that might fix libwnck and other builds [11:12] 47 items there [11:12] ew [11:12] thanks [11:12] mvo_: btw, can I mark #86574 and #83563 as fixed ? [11:12] np === dholbach hugs the archiveadmins === seb128 hugs dholbach back [11:12] bug #86574 bug #83563 [11:12] Malone bug 86574 in software-properties "[apport] software-properties-gtk crashed with NameError in add_source()" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86574 [11:12] Malone bug 83563 in update-manager "[apport] update-manager crashed with NameError in init_proxy()" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83563 [11:13] Lutin: let me check [11:13] Lutin: yes [11:13] ok === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] Lutin: thanks! === Eons [n=asd@host-84-220-118-229.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] mvo_: np [11:26] mvo_: I guess bug #84915 has been fixed as well [11:26] Malone bug 84915 in update-manager "exec error in DistUpgradeControler" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84915 === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:27] Lutin: yes [11:27] Lutin: thanks === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75CC6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] Mithrandir: would you mind closing out uvf bug 88751 before beta hits us? [12:05] Malone bug 88751 in beagle "UVF - Beagle 0.2.16.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88751 [12:05] Mithrandir: please and thank you. === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@dslb-088-073-084-093.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@195.244.169.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra_ [n=zdra@195.244.169.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-3-68.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] oooooh a new workrave version - finally finally finally === Keybuk still doesn't use workrave [12:27] dholbach: dose it have new dances? [12:27] it fixes a bunch of bugs i forwarded upstream ages ago - it took them quite a while until they rolled a new tarball === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] dholbach: oh, so I can stop asking for give-backs on powerpc :) the current one failed two times due to some gnome library inconsistency === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.7.44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] fabbione: (switching to here since it's a bug) [12:50] your ide device took 30s to show up, that's a little strance [12:50] strange too [12:51] could you mail me "lspci -vnn" output as well? === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] Keybuk: no it's not.. there are 4 scsi controllers on that machine that takes a long time to scan [12:51] Keybuk: 3 of them are Fc-HBA [12:51] fabbione: yeah, but the ide device taking the time -> odd [12:51] sure i can... [12:51] it's the last one to be scanned.. and it's a cdrom [12:52] this is the time udev takes to process the rule, not the kernel find it [12:52] uh [12:52] on the way === styx_ivs [n=kvirc@p57A4B611.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EtienneG [n=etienne@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] that's a hell of a machine [12:55] Keybuk: it's the T2000 Niagara + 3 FC-HBA controllers.. nothing more [12:57] PHYSDEVPATH=/devices/pci0001:02/0001:02:00.0/0001:03:01.0/0001:04:00.2/0001:06:0 [12:57] 2.0/host1/port-1:1/end_device-1:1/target1:0:1/1:0:1:0 [12:57] Keybuk: lucky that i didn't plug 2 of the controllers or you would see N times the same disks [12:57] that's like Eurler's Koningsberg's Bridges Problem, but in PCI! === Keybuk counts three PCI bridges there [12:58] Keybuk: want ssh access? :) [12:58] but yeah.. there are 3.. kind of weird [12:58] I'd be afraid it'd try and takeover my mind over the connection [12:58] I'd expect a PCI/E to PCI bridge [12:58] there are PCI-X and PCI-E slots only [12:58] and then maybe I guess a bridge between pluggable boards or something [12:59] 3 PCI-E (the 3 Fc-HBA) [12:59] Keybuk: Euler Konigsberg, surely? [12:59] sure, but you always have a PCI/E to PCI bridge so you can talk PCI at your PCI/E cards [12:59] StevenK: I may be confusing the spelling with the car :p [12:59] 2 PCI-X one used for the internal scsi disks [12:59] Keybuk: Haha [12:59] Keybuk: + all the PCI integrated boards [12:59] yeah [12:59] Keybuk: heh, I've been rereading "A Fire Upon The Deep" recently. If fabbione's computer is a deep-cover instance of the Blight then RUN AWAY [12:59] ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem [01:00] ID_FS_UUID=5dcafd4e-bbce-4d0e-a746-1d0221accc10 [01:00] DEVLINKS=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-3500000e011554ee0-part1 /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0001 [01:00] :06:02.0-sas-0x500062b00000ad25:1:1-0x500000e011554ee2:1-part1 /dev/disk/by-uuid [01:00] /5dcafd4e-bbce-4d0e-a746-1d0221accc10 [01:00] so it *should* be showing up [01:00] oh, weird, that's for /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1 === fabbione smells multipathd fucks up === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957C85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] yeah sdb2 is not there [01:01] not even as multipath entry [01:01] 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2007-03-13 12:07 5dcafd4e-bbce-4d0e-a746-1d0221accc10 -> ../../mapper/3500000e011554ee0 [01:01] odd, you have a uuid for a dm-1 device as well [01:01] but this is the usual "added last takes over" situation [01:01] problem is sdb2 is just not there at all [01:02] sdb2 is showing up as an LVM2 member [01:02] /dev/sdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [01:02] for once i am really sure it's not LVM [01:02] do vol_id /dev/sdb2 for me [01:03] vol_id /dev/sdb2 [01:03] ID_FS_USAGE=raid [01:03] ID_FS_TYPE=LVM2_member === fabbione looks puzzled in empty space [01:03] was it an lvm2 member once, that you've quick formatted a new filesystem onto? [01:03] might be [01:03] it's a test disk/install === fabbione attempts a cleanup [01:04] oh, I see why you have a uuid for the dm-1 ... ian broke it === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] (by-uuid is pointless for dm devices since they have fixed names anyway) [01:05] Keybuk: do you have a patch on the fly i can test? === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] fabbione: not right now, give me a few hours [01:05] just because this thing is.. N O I S Y [01:05] Keybuk: ok [01:05] i can test it tomorrow then [01:06] will look into it after lunch/ken [01:06] yeps that's ok [01:06] i am gonna power it off [01:06] you REMEMBER the noise, don't you? :) [01:06] I remember the noise === TomB_ [n=tomb@host217-44-151-84.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.216.67.217] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] dholbach: I am pushing a gdm branch with a list enabled theme (although not as default) [01:21] dholbach: can you check that I did the setup.py and .cfg correctly? === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.203.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] OK, I give up. How do you install a system with root-on-raid ? [01:25] I've tried: today's feisty daily ubiquity (no apparent support for raid); edgy d-i (likewise) and dapper d-i. [01:25] dapper is closest but I can't seem to get it to let me designate my new md device as the root fs. [01:25] since when does ubiquity do raid ? [01:25] i thought only alternate does [01:25] ogra: Apparently never but I didn't know that when I started :-). [01:25] heh, ah ... [01:26] edgy's d-i should do it [01:28] OMG `Rebuild status : 16% complete' but I only just created it! === TomB_ [n=tomb@host217-44-151-84.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] Let me check this edgy d-i again. Maybe I made some silly mistake. === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] iwj: i used the manual partitioner in d-i [01:30] iwj: first create the partitions, tell d-i to use them as raid [01:30] go to the raid configuration menu [01:30] create the raid === robertj_ [n=robertj@66-168-215-105.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] go back to the partitioner, select the raid and format it/mount it.. etc [01:31] is it too late for items in universe to go to main for feisty if a main inclusion requests is filled out & approved? libpam-keyring is the greatest thing since sliced bread :) === xerxas [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-60-22.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] Perhaps part of the problem was that I was trying to use an LV as one of my raid components and that doesn't seem to work. [01:32] no d-i only supports raid on real partitions [01:32] best you can do is FS over LV over RAID [01:32] fabbione: Right. That's fine, I've cleared way for that now. [01:33] Why does it need to rebuild it right after I've created it ?? [01:33] Oh drat, openoffice.org-voikko got promoted. [01:34] iwj: it depends from the raid I think.. raid1 will just wait for that... [01:34] Would someone mind uploading openoffice.org-voikko 1.1-4build2 to fix #90485 [01:34] Aha! The raid md device shows up in this list _this time_. [01:36] anyone have any idea why my crontabs arent running (using dapper_) === fabbione takes a break [01:36] robertj_: it's not too late in general [01:36] robertj_: you just need to convince iwj or me hard enough to approve it [01:37] how do i update to from edgy to herd5 ? [01:37] without update-manager -c -d [01:37] OH FFS. The two things I made the raid1 md out of are different sizes and the raid has chosen to make the md the _larger_ ! [01:37] (I'm remotely connected) [01:37] xerxas: man apt-get, and #ubuntu, please [01:38] pitti, sorry [01:38] OT , I know apt-get / /etc/apt/sources.list [01:38] xeros: see the FAQ in #ubuntu topic [01:38] but that was a simple question , I want to update to do some bug triaging === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm4.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] xerxas: it's nto development related, and either #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 would have told you [01:41] ok , running update-manager -d remotely , too lazy to change /etc/apt/sources.list :) [01:41] sorry for OT [01:43] ... but only if you don't wait for it to resync. === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-812b544622f6e0e2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.95.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hannu [n=blick@p172-28-25-0.nat.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.158.166] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:10] kwwii: ok === vcrobe [n=x@200.55.129.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vcrobe [n=x@200.55.129.130] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] ogra: are you going to upload the debdiffs for rebuilding ltspfs and linux-ntfs? or should I open bugs for it? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] Heya === Zdra [n=zdra@232.225-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:45] <_ion> last black [02:46] <_ion> Whoops. Should be more careful with /foreach window; forgot the / from '/last black' === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] ping jdong [02:47] yes [02:48] n/m [02:48] just had some trouble setting up prevu, but suddenly it works... [02:48] got "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/prevu/builds/21062/. mount -t proc proc /proc", but now everything is nice [02:49] it's darn nice, btw [02:50] hmm, that would be a pbuilder failure of some sort [02:50] don't know what would be causing it though [02:50] it seems to be running smoothly now, though [02:50] (prevu hands over the actual build task to pbuilder, it just sets up the source code to build) [02:50] aha [02:50] most builds don't need /proc anyway ;-?) [02:51] well, i thought the whole /proc subsystem was deprecated in Linux [02:51] ;) === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:52] lol, no, far from that :) [02:52] /proc is deprecated for interacting with drivers, hardware, etc [02:53] but it is still the way of interacting with PROCcess information [02:53] like it was meant to. [02:53] aha [02:53] that clears up some stuff;) [02:53] i always wondered what "proc" had to do with driver interfaces === robertj_ [n=robertj@mutec14.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] it really doesn't have anything to do [02:55] but /proc was a nice virtual filesystem that kernel drivers can use to interact with userland [02:56] and with nothing else available for the job, /proc got abused [02:57] what happened to the 2007-02-11 MainInclusionReportPamKeyring? === ivoks [n=ivoks@1-37.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo__ [n=egon@p54A64EE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:57] isn't /sys getting deprecated too, now? [02:58] PhinnFort: really? haven't heard that. [02:58] i might have dreamt that up [02:58] :) [02:58] ;) [02:58] /sys is here to stay [02:59] /usr needs to die :) [02:59] mjg59: are you using feisty on your macbook pro? [02:59] not die, just disappear [02:59] and maybe /opt [03:00] mjg59: Can I ask one more time about laptop-mode? :-) [03:00] elmo: Yes [03:00] Also, grub [03:00] bddebian: have you tried gobolinux? [03:00] mjg59: meh [03:00] I've no idea what's up with that initrd.img stuff [03:00] mjg59: can I install grub and have it work? [03:01] On xfs? Erm. [03:01] Probably nowadays, to be honest [03:01] mjg59: feisty is killing me with lilo [03:01] PhinnFort: No, I play on GNU/Hurd though :-) [03:01] The only issue I'm hitting is that the keyboard doesn't always work [03:01] But I get the same with isolinux [03:01] geser, i'm doing ltspfs now ... [03:01] bddebian: Bit busy with real work right now, I'm afraid [03:02] elmo: sheesh, what's next, dropping dselect from the seeds? [03:02] sabdfl: huh? [03:02] lilo => grub... [03:02] sabdfl: I detest lilo, I never use it unless I'm forced to [03:02] sabdfl: always have [03:02] ok [03:03] mjg59: All I really needed to know is if it's viable to 'fix' it in Feisty. There are a couple LP bugs on it. [03:03] Probably [03:03] That's an autoritative answer ;-P [03:04] if I want a package to use dpatch I have to change debian/rules, right? [03:04] bddebian: I'm trying to finish my PhD - available time to look at LP is pretty tiny [03:04] danohuiginn: yes [03:04] Sorry about that [03:05] danohuiginn: Changing the build system can make it harder to get stuff back into Debian, though conversely using dpatch can make it easier - you need to balance the two to a certain extent [03:05] Thanks, thom. That means somebody should update http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/updating-chap.html [03:05] mjg59: No worries, I'm just giving you a hard time. [03:06] mjg59: so, sorry, just to confirm, grub-install should DTRT in feisty? [03:06] elmo: Assuming your partition table is fine, yeah. As far as I know, it can deal with xfs now. [03:06] There's certainly no Mac-specific reason to use lilo [03:06] mjg59: XFS is a red herring [03:06] Ok [03:06] or at least it is for me, I'm not using it [03:07] elmo, want to build with the patch for me? [03:07] In that case, yeah, go for it [03:07] kylem: which patch is that, sorry? [03:07] #88219 [03:07] oh, I forgot to subscribe to that [03:07] elmo: yes, I'm with mjg59, grub (a) should work and (b) works for me on an iMac [03:08] elmo: might need to gptsync (refit package) if you haven't done so before) [03:08] mjg59: OK, thanks. I was just trying to find the simplest way to submit a patch, and seem to have failed ;) [03:08] danohuiginn: If you can't upload, then debdiff is probably the easiest [03:09] cjwatson: If lilo's working, then the partition table is good enough (I believe) [03:09] cjwatson: ok, I'll try that on the vein hope it may help with my assploding initramfs problems [03:09] gptsync is happy [03:09] already reran it [03:09] ogra: thanks [03:09] OK, mjg59. I'll do it that way === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:13] geser, linux-ntfs done as well [03:14] thanks again === goliath23 [n=david@vidsolbach.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:14] hi [03:15] does anyone know what color-palette is used in the (edgy) usplash when the text-colors are specified? [03:16] goliath23: #ubuntu-art (or whatever it's called) might [03:16] hm ok [03:19] kylem: I think it's generating 0 byte initrd's because they're for 2.6.17 btw [03:19] argh. [03:20] Riddell: do you think, you could send me the source code where I could read what palette is used in the end? on ubuntu-artwork everyone seems to be asleep [03:21] goliath23: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash-theme-ubuntu/0.12 [03:21] without the "beta" [03:21] kylem: also, no go on your patch [03:23] thanks, but thats the theme. I'd need the source of the usplash library [03:23] elmo, no go in which sense [03:23] kylem: still get the Fatal: empty map, and exit code of 1 [03:23] Riddell: the one that provides usplash_backend.h I guess [03:23] sigh. [03:23] elmo, does the Warning: print? [03:24] nope [03:24] i bet the problem is that it's stat() the symlink === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.158.166] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] Riddell: got it === mbiebl [n=michael@e180124207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:28] man, feisty hates this macbook pro with a passion that I can only respect and admire [03:32] elmo: hehe [03:33] kylem: 2.6.20-10 really really hates this macbook pro [03:33] 2.6.20-9 is a lot happier [03:33] in fact, it's booting [03:34] whack. [03:35] <_ion> summon pitti === Gerrath_svolpe [n=Gerrath_@70.89.111.251] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] Can someone explain to me where the hell tutos2 came from? [03:50] so, umm, who would 'feisty doesn't work with lilo' go against? the initramfs works fine with grub, but explodes on lilo. not sure if that's an initramfs, linux-source or lilo bug [03:51] Mithrandir: 91940 is another one I think that should probably be milestoned, FWIW [03:51] I'd guess at it being a lilo bug with lilo not managing to load the whole initramfs or something like that [03:51] Mithrandir: ok, thanks, will report that in a sec [03:51] thanks, looking === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:53] elmo, can you try passing in libata.display_hpa=0 to 2.6.20-10? === duese [n=Ident@p5484CC54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios_ [n=cypher@201.21.157.108] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stephanbuys_ [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:11] cpu frequency scaling seems to be broken on my thinkpad. is that a known issue with the feisty -9-generic kernel? [04:12] Scaling appears to be working normally on my thinkpad === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:14]