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| elcasey | anyone home? I've got a pretty serious issue with Feisty | 12:27 |
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| jdong | I am accompanying elcasey on this one | 12:28 |
| elcasey | yay! I have an escort to the danc...never mind | 12:28 |
| jdong | possible Feisty kernel regression, kernel appears to hardlock when probing his chipset | 12:28 |
| jdong | (storage chipset) | 12:28 |
| jdong | hence system doesn't boot | 12:28 |
| jdong | reproduced with Feisty LiveCD | 12:28 |
| elcasey | initally I upgraded from Edgy, but LiveCD won't boot, either | 12:29 |
| jdong | the chipset reportedly worked fine in Edgy | 12:29 |
| jdong | elcasey: do you know what your storage chipset is? | 12:29 |
| elcasey | no, lemme find out | 12:29 |
| elcasey | it's Gigabyte brand | 12:31 |
| elcasey | the spec sheet just says "GIGABYTE SATA II Controller" | 12:31 |
| elcasey | so it's not Promise or anything | 12:31 |
| jdong | elcasey: can you get on a Edgy or something and lspci? | 12:33 |
| elcasey | I don't have an Edgy liveCD | 12:33 |
| elcasey | I have full access to all my partitions from Windows, though | 12:33 |
| jdong | elcasey: do you have any kind of Linux LiveCD? | 12:35 |
| jdong | (that can boot up) | 12:35 |
| elcasey | cool, found my Edgy Live | 12:36 |
| elcasey | i'll reboot and come back...I don't know if my NIC will work from a LiveCD, though, certainly not from Edgy | 12:36 |
| elcasey | it's a serious process to get this Ralink working | 12:36 |
| elcasey | wait, I have the hackin9 live distro! | 12:37 |
| jdong | elcasey: anything that can get you back here, with a mountable hard drive and a lspci command :D | 12:38 |
| elcasey | anyway, lemme try the two livecds and see if any of them work | 12:38 |
| elcasey | worst case, I'll install Solaris 10 and try that...I have a spare 10GB partition | 12:39 |
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| elcasey | jdong: I managed to boot 2.6.17-10 in recovery mode | 12:49 |
| elcasey | it hung at the bootsplash earlier today | 12:49 |
| elcasey | but I have the lspci info | 12:49 |
| jdong | elcasey: I can't believe that worked | 12:50 |
| elcasey | neither can I | 12:50 |
| jdong | Feisty's not supposed to boot with edgy kernels. | 12:50 |
| elcasey | for all I know, Feisty will boot now | 12:50 |
| jdong | hehe hope for it | 12:50 |
| elcasey | BUT, the hackin9 livecd didn't boot, it got the same error(s) when it tried to load the drives | 12:50 |
| jdong | wow | 12:50 |
| jdong | hmm | 12:50 |
| elcasey | and it uses a 2.6.17-11 | 12:50 |
| jdong | that's real interesting | 12:50 |
| elcasey | it's also Debian-based...and just like my install with -11, it dumped me to a BusyBox/ash prompt | 12:51 |
| elcasey | I started to think it was everywhere, but *everything* works in Windows | 12:51 |
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| elcasey | shall I try booting feisty? | 12:51 |
| jdong | meh give it a shit | 12:52 |
| jdong | shot* | 12:52 |
| jdong | ugh | 12:52 |
| elcasey | heh, 10-4 | 12:52 |
| elcasey | if it fails, I'll go back to XP and send/pastebin you my lspci.log? | 12:52 |
| elcasey | I just piped the output to a file | 12:53 |
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| elcasey | no dice with either version of 2.6.20-9 | 12:59 |
| jdong | what kind of error do you get booting up? | 01:00 |
| jdong | that would be useful | 01:00 |
| jdong | i.e. a recovery mode screencap | 01:00 |
| elcasey | is there any way to force it to output all the startup stuff a logfile? | 01:01 |
| elcasey | it doesn't give me errors, it just halts and all my HDDs spin down. | 01:01 |
| jdong | umm, the boot messages stop somewhere. | 01:01 |
| jdong | that's what I mean by error | 01:02 |
| elcasey | It seems like it halts on discovering USB devices, but even if I unplug my USB HDD, it still halts | 01:02 |
| jdong | no you can't log stuff before the system boots | 01:02 |
| elcasey | I mean that it's not giving me a *specific* error message or code | 01:02 |
| elcasey | it just...stops | 01:02 |
| jdong | elcasey: yeah, screencap WHERE it stops. | 01:02 |
| elcasey | how? Just PrtScr? | 01:03 |
| elcasey | well whatever I cap with PrtScr will be gone when I reboot | 01:03 |
| jdong | digital camera | 01:03 |
| elcasey | lol | 01:03 |
| elcasey | ok | 01:03 |
| jdong | or patience and a keyboard :D | 01:03 |
| jdong | or Vista wreck ignition | 01:04 |
| elcasey | I think I'll take some photos | 01:04 |
| elcasey | I'll try to pause it and see if I catch anything else | 01:05 |
| elcasey | brb | 01:05 |
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| elcasey | jdong: I booted full-on into 2.6.10, but it's got "issues" | 01:14 |
| jdong | heh what kind? | 01:15 |
| elcasey | sda1 (Windows) doesn't mount and Beryl doesn't run at all (not concerned about that, currently) | 01:16 |
| elcasey | it's just a bit "off" | 01:16 |
| elcasey | presumably because the new kernel and some package replacements jacked some stuff around | 01:16 |
| elcasey | but here's my lspci output - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10112/ | 01:16 |
| jdong | well old kernels aren't supposed to work in Edgy | 01:17 |
| jdong | err feisty | 01:17 |
| jdong | I am totally shocked that it boots at all | 01:17 |
| jdong | can you apt-get update and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and apt-get dist-upgrade? | 01:17 |
| elcasey | lemme check | 01:18 |
| elcasey | it's hitting the repos, and they all say "feisty" | 01:18 |
| elcasey | i'll definitely be doing a fresh install after my get my new HDD, but it'll be nice to have a working Linux system in the meantime (assuming tonight' kernel update makes some progress and/or old kernel keeps working) | 01:20 |
| elcasey | dist-upgrade works, too | 01:20 |
| elcasey | it's downloading quite a few packagaes | 01:21 |
| jdong | elcasey: yikes jmicron chipset | 01:23 |
| elcasey | jdong: you still need those screenshots? | 01:23 |
| jdong | BenC can probably enlighten you more on the state of jmicron | 01:23 |
| jdong | elcasey: but do file a bug report and attach the screenie | 01:23 |
| elcasey | which screenshot? It doesn't always hang in the same place | 01:24 |
| jdong | then attach two :) | 01:25 |
| elcasey | ok...I think I took like five :P | 01:25 |
| elcasey | jdong: what package should I report the bug in? | 01:29 |
| jdong | linux-souce-2.6.20 | 01:29 |
| elcasey | thanks | 01:29 |
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| elcasey | jdong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/91797 | 01:36 |
| jdong | elcasey: your eyes need to re-train | 01:41 |
| jdong | look at your 00004.jpg | 01:41 |
| jdong | look about 8 lines down | 01:41 |
| elcasey | one sec | 01:41 |
| jdong | bug 84964 | 01:42 |
| elcasey | ah ha | 01:42 |
| elcasey | checking out the forum thread now | 01:43 |
| elcasey | sheesh, not exactly an isolated problem | 01:43 |
| elcasey | all-SATA + USB = Feisty hates you? | 01:44 |
| jdong | no | 01:45 |
| jdong | it's a JMicron controller regression as it seems | 01:45 |
| jdong | but it's a confirmed critical bug. | 01:46 |
| elcasey | any way for me to delete/retract my report? | 01:46 |
| crimsun | reject it | 01:47 |
| kylem | mark it as a dupe of 84964 | 01:47 |
| jdong | I already did | 01:47 |
| elcasey | ok, thanks | 01:48 |
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| Mithrandir | BenC: I have an UVF request for git-core 1.5 ; do you have any thoughts on that? | 09:44 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: it's probably good to have new git | 09:51 |
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| fforw | hi.. | 12:18 |
| fforw | what would be the best place to report problems with a new kernel? | 12:18 |
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| BenC | fforw: launchpad | 12:42 |
| fabbione | hey BenC | 12:45 |
| zul | hey guys | 12:48 |
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| abogani | BenC: May i disturb you for two very simple and fast questions about my spec (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)? | 01:40 |
| BenC | abogani: Sure | 01:40 |
| abogani | I want to release all necessary packages to offer a complete solution for RT-Preempt in Ubuntu. | 01:40 |
| abogani | 1) If i release all source packages of the all binary packages i'm ok with license (in particulary with restrcited-modules), right? 2) I should change name to my packages: What is, in you opinion, better name? realtime-image (realtime-headers, realtime-source, realtime-restricted-modules etc) or linuxrt-image (linuxrt-headers, linuxrt-source, linuxrt-restricted-modules etc) ? | 01:41 |
| abogani | BenC: Do you have any suggestions? | 01:50 |
| BenC | abogani: 1) Yes, 2) Use a specific flavour like -realtime | 01:50 |
| BenC | your suggestion is probably too confusing for users, plus I doubt you really want to build linuxrt-image-{generic,386,server,server-bigiron,lowlatency} | 01:51 |
| BenC | So you'd have linux-image-2.6.20-10-realtime | 01:52 |
| BenC | probably best to base it on the -generic config | 01:52 |
| BenC | abogani: It would also mean you could do something intelligent like build-dep on linux-source-2.6.20 to build your kernels, just apply a patch for real time, and create the deb's (like what xen source does in universe) | 01:53 |
| BenC | makes it easier to rebuild against newer kernel source too | 01:53 |
| abogani | BenC I understand (i already use this flavours like naming), i cloned you git repositary and build my kernel with a AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours="realtime" :-) | 01:56 |
| zul | scarey....since when xen became the model ;) | 01:56 |
| abogani | BenC: My problem are (naming) source packages that not should conflict with official source packages. | 01:57 |
| BenC | abogani: If you do as I suggested, you wont have a full linux tree source package | 01:57 |
| BenC | but if you must do that (and I strongly suggest you don't :) then yeah, linux-rt-source-2.6.20 is a good name, but I wouldn't carry that name to the packages | 01:58 |
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| abogani | BenC: Ok. If i want to follow your suggestion (and thus not release a linux-rt-source-2.6.20) how i set source field in the my kernel package? I set this to linux-source-2.6.20 as like official kernel? People don't expect to find all source in source package (in this case you package don't have RT-preempt source obviously)? I don't break package policy? Sorry Ben i'm a stupid person. :-( | 02:08 |
| BenC | abogani: Download the xen source package and check it out. You still have a source package, but it does not include the entire linux source tree. It build-depends on linux-source-2.6.20, unpacks it during build, applies the rt patches, and builds a -realtime flavour from it | 02:09 |
| mrec | BenC: do you directly take the v4l-dvb repository from linuxtv.org for the ubuntu kernel? | 02:09 |
| BenC | mrec: No, we use stock, unless there some important fixes which we might git-cherrypick from that repo | 02:09 |
| BenC | In the past mkrufky has collected fixes for us into a repo we've pulled from | 02:10 |
| abogani | BenC: I will do it, thank you very much! | 02:10 |
| BenC | abogani: Np | 02:10 |
| BenC | abogani: If you feel like writing a wiki howto for people who want to do kernel flavours like this, I can link it from the KernelTeam pages | 02:11 |
| mrec | BenC: regarding my problems with some devs there, did you do anything? seems like the post of another developer calmed done the whole story at least | 02:11 |
| mrec | the other question I have is regarding the ubuntu installation CD is there any installation CD with a recent kernel out there? | 02:15 |
| mrec | it simply doesn't detect the SATA drive for that testmachine. | 02:15 |
| abogani | BenC: Ok | 02:15 |
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| crimsun | BenC: thanks for the merges | 03:11 |
| BenC | crimsun: Np, thanks for the patches | 03:17 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: if you could ack or nack a new git-core, that'd be nice. I don't really mind either way. | 03:17 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: makes no difference to me, but I can't see it hurting anything | 03:17 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: ok. | 03:18 |
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| kylem | BenC, git 1.5 changes the format of the .git dir... | 04:04 |
| Mithrandir | kylem: not by default. | 04:05 |
| BenC | kylem: does it change existing dir's? | 04:05 |
| kylem | no. | 04:05 |
| Mithrandir | at least not by default from how I read the LWN article | 04:05 |
| kylem | Mithrandir, ah, it does it on hera. | 04:05 |
| kylem | Mithrandir, which is how i found out about it when some of my scripts stopped working. :) | 04:05 |
| BenC | kylem: Do we need new git to work with hera repo's? | 04:05 |
| kylem | no. | 04:05 |
| kylem | i still say we should have 1.5 in feisty tho. | 04:06 |
| kylem | might as well be current. | 04:06 |
| Mithrandir | I've approved the UVFe request, so we should get it | 04:08 |
| kylem | ok. | 04:08 |
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| zul | right Im off to have a baby see you guys later.. | 05:07 |
| fabbione | it sounds like zul is going to give birth and not his wife.... | 05:21 |
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| Lure | fabbione: ;-), probably the first | 05:23 |
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| BenC | crimsun: I have a build failure in one of your patches | 06:25 |
| crimsun | BenC: patch_analog? | 06:25 |
| crimsun | or hda_intel, hmm | 06:25 |
| BenC | ucontrol->value.integer.value[0] = ac97->spec.ad18xx.swap_mic_linein; | 06:25 |
| BenC | swap_mic_linein isn't defined, and neither is ad18xx | 06:26 |
| crimsun | gah, let me pull that | 06:26 |
| BenC | crimsun: Want me to push my current tree to have a look? | 06:26 |
| crimsun | yes please | 06:26 |
| BenC | planning an upload tonight, so trying to get some test builds done | 06:26 |
| crimsun | ok | 06:27 |
| BenC | crimsun: BTW, would sabdfl's sound being broken in -10 (regressed from -9) be fixed with the patches you sent? | 06:27 |
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| crimsun | BenC: possibly, though I don't remember Mark's SSIDs | 06:27 |
| crimsun | I _think_ he used AD1986A? | 06:28 |
| crimsun | oh wait, did Matt Z report that one? | 06:30 |
| crimsun | Maybe I'm looking under the wrong reporter | 06:30 |
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| crimsun | right, bug 69529 | 06:39 |
| BenC | crimsun: pushed to kernel.org | 06:47 |
| crimsun | BenC: thanks | 06:48 |
| crimsun | BenC: do you know which hardware sabdfl was referring to for his sound regression in 2.6.20-10.17? | 06:51 |
| BenC | crimsun: trying to find out | 06:52 |
| crimsun | thanks | 06:52 |
| BenC | crimsun: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio | 06:57 |
| crimsun | BenC: can you get the subvendor and subdevice, please? | 06:58 |
| kylem | it's an X60, iirc | 06:58 |
| BenC | crimsun: I'm worried that he's gone missing...I'll keep trying | 07:04 |
| crimsun | BenC: thanks. | 07:04 |
| BenC | crimsun: How soon do you think before I can at least get the compile fix? | 07:11 |
| crimsun | just emailed to you | 07:11 |
| BenC | crimsun: Thanks | 07:12 |
| crimsun | sorry for the thinko | 07:12 |
| BenC | np | 07:14 |
| BenC | crimsun: Do you have difficulty test compiling these patches? | 07:14 |
| crimsun | BenC: not normally. I was up late. :/ | 07:15 |
| BenC | It's only like once in a blue moon you send me a thinko, so it's not a huge deal, but if you could just do a test SUBDIRS=sound compile it might help | 07:15 |
| crimsun | sure, I'll use SUBDIRS=sound from now on, thanks | 07:15 |
| BenC | crimsun: usually I do "mkdir /tmp/build; cat debian/config/i386/config{,.generic} > /tmp/build/.config; make O=/tmp/build oldconfig; make O=/tmp/build prepare; make O=/tmp/build SUBDIRS=foo modules" | 07:16 |
| BenC | then you can just rm -rf /tmp/build when you're done and not add cruft to your src tree | 07:17 |
| crimsun | noted. | 07:17 |
| BenC | crimsun: Any chance alsa is considering moving to git still? :) | 07:19 |
| crimsun | BenC: not likely | 07:20 |
| BenC | crimsun: Would make it so much easier for us to just pull their tree :/ | 07:21 |
| BenC | wonder if we can make a strong enough case for it that they might do it...I would think the effort they spend getting the patches to Linus would have been enough | 07:21 |
| crimsun | well, Jaroslav does have linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git | 07:22 |
| crimsun | I think you've pulled from that one before | 07:22 |
| BenC | is there a branch in there that is stable enough to keep in sync with? | 07:22 |
| BenC | I think last time i messed with it, I just copied the entire tree instead of actually pulling | 07:23 |
| crimsun | I don't see one that seems updated | 07:25 |
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| mrec | does anyone here work on the installation cds? | 10:29 |
| mrec | the default kernel which comes with the cds simply doesn't support the hardware we have here, it would be nice to support it out of the box | 10:30 |
| BenC | mrec: would be nice to know what hardware that is | 10:31 |
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| mrec | BenC: sorry took a while, I'm booting it and dumping the hardware list | 10:48 |
| ivoks | i noticed a regreesion with bluetooth since edgy :/ | 10:49 |
| ivoks | like... i can't turn it on :D | 10:50 |
| BenC | ivoks: I have no bluetooth to test...is it maybe an rfkill thing? | 10:52 |
| BenC | is it showing up in lsusb? | 10:52 |
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| ivoks | i'm in 2.6.17 now | 10:52 |
| ivoks | it works here, it's software switch | 10:53 |
| ivoks | it shows up in lsusb here | 10:53 |
| ivoks | bInterfaceSubClass 1 Radio Frequency | 10:54 |
| ivoks | bInterfaceProtocol 1 Bluetooth | 10:54 |
| BenC | ivoks: Let me know if it doesn't show up under feisty | 10:54 |
| ivoks | i'm rebooting right now :) | 10:54 |
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| ivoks | no, it doesn't show up | 10:58 |
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| mrec | BenC: http://rafb.net/p/nUlDLa61.html | 11:10 |
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| BenC | mrec: That doesn't tell me which hw isn't working :) | 11:21 |
| mrec | harddisk isn't recognized :) | 11:22 |
| mrec | sorry | 11:22 |
| BenC | Assuming this is the ATI IDE? | 11:28 |
| mrec | yes | 11:34 |
| BenC | and it worked in edgy? | 11:35 |
| BenC | Can you send the dmesg from edgy? | 11:35 |
| mrec | it didn't work | 11:36 |
| mrec | I didn't go on with it but I'm interested in getting it supported out of the box | 11:36 |
| mrec | BenC: what do you need of dmesg? | 11:39 |
| johanbr | mrec: I have a very similar controller in my laptop (possibly identical) and it works fine in Feisty. | 11:41 |
| mrec | johanbr: the problem is I cannot go on with the installation since the harddisk isn't detected | 11:41 |
| BenC | mrec: All of it | 11:42 |
| BenC | mrec: So neither edgy nor feisty works with it? | 11:42 |
| johanbr | mrec: Oh, I see. My installation is upgraded from Edgy (or maybe even Dapper, don't remember). | 11:43 |
| mrec | BenC: the installation cd is supposed to be edgy | 11:44 |
| BenC | mrec: Can you test if feisty works, just so I can see if it's something that can be backported? | 11:44 |
| mrec | where can I get feisty? | 11:46 |
| stgraber | cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/ | 11:47 |
| mrec | ok grabbing it | 11:49 |
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