[12:12] harpreet: /me uses debsign (wrapper around gpg) for this purpose... maybe it'll make your life easier ;) [12:12] Stefan: Last time you listed the right gpg parameter and the step to figure out if we had signed in the right manner. I missed out on documenting that, can you list out. [12:12] g'night all === norsetto [n=norsetto@host135-212-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:13] Stefan: it was pretty easy last time :-), the other way I need to get our release engineer an account in Ubuntu :-) -she will not like doing that. [12:13] harpreet: debuild -S -sa -us -uc (-S -> build source package, -sa include orig.tar.gz, -us -uc do not sign anything (man dpkg-buildpackage can tell you the details)) === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] harpreet: then you can simply run debsign -k0x8d7fca91 *changes (of course with your key, not mine ;)) [12:14] crimsun: I appear to be mistaken, xgl does build against system mesa [12:14] Back later folks. [12:14] stefan: Aha, thats what I was looking for :-) [12:14] Stefan: will try it out and let you know if I run into any issues. [12:14] crimsun: so the bundled mesa updates in the debdiff probably aren't needed, but I'm not sure if that means we should magically drop them.... [12:14] stefan: thanks! [12:14] harpreet: ok, glad to help === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] Who are the tiber admins again? I keep forgetting [12:20] shawarma: do you need something? [12:20] LaserJock: I have a toy I want to test. :-) [12:22] what kind of toy? :-) [12:22] I've created a fuse filesystem that fetches ssh keys from launchpad on the fly and imbrandon doesn't seem to be around so I can get it tested on the new build servers. === matt_good__ [n=matt@206.106.238.42] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] Oh, not everyone as access to tiber.. I keep forgetting that too. :-) [12:24] stefan: that worked sweet :-). I will upload the packages - there will be 4 in all and email Daniel Holbach about it. === daviey [n=dave1111@unaffiliated/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] Hi, i am unable to retrieve my password for REVU. [12:27] harpreet: great :) [12:32] daviey: did you (successfully) upload a package to revu yet? [12:32] yes, and a diff [12:32] daviey: hm... give me a minute [12:32] thanks [12:34] jetsaredi1: Could you ping me when you're done? [12:36] jdong: I just read the xinerama comment for that bug. [12:36] crimsun: I'm working with the commentor right now === macd [n=d@adsl-222-8-111.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] jdong: excellent, thanks [12:37] crimsun: apparently some form of xinerama is in the source, and a option is in the binary, just need to figure out how it works :) === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] crimsun: but I think we're making some progress :) [12:37] crimsun: so as far as the xinerama stuff, our ./configure enables system mesa, so the built in stuff isn't even used.... [12:37] (I'm shocked that's working at all :D) [12:38] :) [12:38] back in 42 mins, watching BSG cap [12:38] so I guess a good chunk of the debdiff is unimportant then :) [12:38] crimsun: bsg? [12:38] shawarma: http://epguides.com/BattlestarGalactica/ [12:38] crimsun: oh [12:39] shawarma: you have gone down a nerd-IQ notch in my books ;-) [12:39] Woah, not knowing BSG? Heresy! [12:39] crimsun: ha, xinerama works. needs +xinerama line on command line! [12:39] jdong: So I'm down to what? eleventy billion-1? [12:40] stefan: Thanks again for your help I have uploaded the files and have sent a message to Daniel [12:40] jdong: excellent. [12:40] shawarma: use of eleventy has also brought you down. Everyone knows it switches into karma points after eleventy million. [12:43] jdong: "eleventy" gives negative points? Your rules! [12:43] jdong: Eleventy is the coolest number ever. [12:44] jdong: Nobody know quite how large it is; only that it's *really* large. [12:44] daviey: no idea right now why recovering your pw doesn't work... I'll send you an encrypted mail with the pw. [12:44] shawarma: watch out with immature innuendos around me. [12:44] shawarma: I am a sucker for them. === jdong snickers immaturely and forgets he should be finishing important homework [12:45] sistpoty, thanks [12:46] jdong: Oh, don't speak to me about homework. I have a killer exam on Thursday and I've hardly opened a book yet. [12:46] daviey: ah, now I know why it won't work: your ELG-E key (used for encryption) has expired [12:46] shawarma: sounds like me :) [12:46] jdong: You study cs? [12:46] sistpoty, still? I fixed that and published it === fatman2 [n=none@c-75-69-6-21.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] hello i am fatman and i weigh 400 pounds. you can see videos of my supreme fatness at www.fatman.tk [12:47] cool [12:47] daviey: hm... just imported your key locally from keyserver.ubuntu.com, no luck so far [12:47] shawarma: yeah, I do :) [12:47] hmm === fatman2 [n=none@c-75-69-6-21.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:47] shawarma: and it's called course 6. [12:47] hehe [12:48] jdong: course 6 means nothing to me. Should it? [12:48] daviey: I'll just send the pw to you as a plain email (won't give you much rights besides posting comments to your uploads), but I guess you should fix that key issue sometime [12:49] shawarma: it's not called CS, it's called Course 6. always :) [12:49] sistpoty, thanks [12:49] jdong: I see. And I suppose there's a totally rational explanation to that. [12:49] shawarma: at least that's what Professor Abelson said on first day.... [12:49] you're welcome [12:49] shawarma: when Hal Abelson says something, you submit. [12:50] wow, over 150 bugs for ubuntu-universe-sponsors [12:50] jdong: Of course. [12:51] shawarma: he's already found enjoyment picking on my social ineptitude :) [12:51] jdong: 87687 +1'd [12:51] crimsun: yay *hug* [12:51] crimsun: one more technical question..... [12:51] never mind [12:51] actually, answered myself :) [12:52] shawarma: today he convinced me that he was deeply offended if people move the chairs in his lecture room [12:52] jdong: Of course. They were put there for a reason. [12:53] shawarma: lol, I seriously believed him and started apologizing profusely :D === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-099-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] Heya gang [01:27] hi bddebian [01:27] Heya sistpoty [01:28] Hey bddebian. [01:29] Hello RAOF === chx [n=chx@pdpc/supporter/professional/chx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] Hi. davfs2 for edgy is quite old :( is there a (simple) way to get something more recent? [01:33] heya everybody [01:33] hi Toadstool [01:33] hey sistpoty [01:34] Hi Toadstool [01:34] hi bddebian [01:34] The answer is: download the static binary. Thanks. Bye. === chx [n=chx@pdpc/supporter/professional/chx] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Viva] [01:35] uh? [01:35] :-) [01:35] He comes, he goes :) [01:36] hm... he still needs to learn the rules for the channel. it's not "Thanks. Bye." but "kthxbye" ;) [01:37] heh [01:37] kthxbai gimme pony [01:37] heh [01:37] lol [01:37] OMG!!1 pony! [01:38] http://litterbox.zawodny.com/i/pony.jpg [01:40] I'd like a pony. [01:40] I'd like a brain [01:40] I don't have anywhere to keep a pony. Do you have a collapsible version? === matt_good__ is now known as matt_good [01:43] you'll have to settle for http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/i-want-a-pony.jpg [01:44] Hm. Do ponies store well in the fridge? :) [01:44] no, but PBRs do [01:44] and they're only $1 here! [01:45] They aren't worth $1 [01:45] although yeah, they taste like $0.01 === RAOF is puzzled by the acronym PBR [01:45] well, a pony may fit in a fridge, but it requires a bit of "processing" [01:45] http://www.pabstblueribbon.com [01:45] I hate to tell you all but that isn't a pony [01:46] bddebian: don't burst any bubbles ;-) [01:46] It looks like a Miniature horse to me, not a pony [01:48] someone has to spoil the party, don't they? [01:48] :-) [01:48] :'( [01:48] Man, I so want to write a gmail-like GTK markup widget. [01:49] you mean Adobe Acrobat Reader -like markup widget. [01:50] Do I? I don't use Acrobat. [01:50] I mean where the smilies get up and dance, where \m/>.<\m/ looks cool, and where *bolds* stuff. [01:53] sounds perfectly useless :) [01:54] ajmitch: I bet you scoff at beryl and compiz too [01:54] oh wait. [01:55] I wish Firefox had a Perl console widget. [01:55] I wish the kernel had an emacs event handler [01:55] Oh, totally useless. [01:56] Well, maybe not totally. Having bold, italic and underline inline markup in IRC could be useful. [01:56] Except no one else could see it :) [01:57] some clients already do it [01:57] where is that ubuntu how to for making packages? I lost my link :( [01:57] like irssi does *bold* & _underline_ [01:57] Modulo in C is % ? [01:57] RAOF: get a dry erase marker and a bottle of windex [01:57] yep === jdong ducks [01:57] !packagingguide [01:57] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [01:58] esaym: ^ [01:58] I just want my xchat-gnome to do it too :) [01:58] ajmitch: hey thanks. ALso anyone know the perl dev module name in the repos? [01:58] what do you guys think about bug 84868? dunno if what I'm doing is the right thing (tm) :) [01:58] Malone bug 84868 in nozomi "cannot compile module" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84868 [01:59] bddebian: Sometimes modulo in C is & 1, because speedfreaks don't trust gcc to optimise :) [02:03] bah... speed freaks [02:05] That threw me in the compiz code, actually. [02:05] It's not immediately obvious that "if(bar & 1)" means "if bar is odd" :) [02:06] hehe === sistpoty had some negative experience with bison ppl. and their need for speed neglecting clean interfaces === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] ugh, too many uvf requests that I haven't checked for a couple of days [02:18] jdong: now you need to get someone to upload xserver-xgl [02:18] ajmitch: ok, shall I streamline 0ubuntu1 and 0ubuntu2 together, then subscribe uvf-sponsors? [02:19] yeah [02:19] ok, thanks :) === jdong gonna work thru a bit more scheme first [02:19] what a painful language [02:19] ))) === hypa7ia [i=hypatia@judecca.aculei.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:41] shawarma: ping [02:41] I was done a while ago, but was putting the kids to bed [02:42] turns out not to be of so much use as its too big for the blank cds I have [02:43] jetsaredi1: I think he went to bed [02:44] ah [02:44] he was mirroring the feisty daily [02:44] for me, but like I said the iso is too big for the media I have [02:45] by about 2M === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@stwgw.stw.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] not even === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] gn8 everyone [03:07] jetsaredi1: dailies can often be that way, once you have one usually rsyncing to one that's the right size is fast [03:07] I don't actually want to install it tho [03:08] what do you want to do? [03:08] just trying to help the mythtv people get some dmesg information [03:09] ah well [03:09] why do you need a daily? [03:09] that's what they ask for [03:10] Herd 5 should be fine then I'd think [03:10] mm [03:11] Herd 5 was released on the 2nd [03:11] I wouldn't think *that* much had changed [03:11] nod [03:17] actually [03:18] I wonder if all of the drivers are pre-loaded on the normal non-daily livecd [03:18] hmm? [03:18] the specific task I was looking to do was to get the dmesg output from an ivtv wintv card [03:19] ok [03:19] I wonder if that's the difference [03:19] (~30M size diff) [03:19] I don't think the kernel has changed since herd 5. [03:20] jetsaredi1: nah, it's just changes in seeding etc. [03:20] mm - so it prolly shouldn't matter [03:21] just maybe the kernel version [03:22] Yeah. === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] The last kernel was released on 12 February. [03:23] Or thats the most recent changelog entry date anyway. [03:24] re === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] *bah* cdr this you sloth..... === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@ip24-255-125-63.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] man, somebody needs to write a GUI config panel for mutt [03:43] I love CLI tools, I just don't like setting them up [03:45] There is a website that can generate mutt configs. [03:45] Mutt configs can be very modular which is really nice. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] Mine is very much so, allowing me to add email accounts/mailboxes in a pinch. [03:46] LaserJock: Would a sample config file with comments be of any help? [03:47] I've got one [03:47] Ok. [03:47] I spent the time to set mutt up once [03:48] my config file is rather large [03:48] but now I want to change my setup and I don't look forward to setting it up [03:48] fskin ppc buildd just went to sleep [03:48] grrr [03:49] guess it will be offline untill i goto work tomarrow, i'm not going in tonight [03:49] doh [03:50] hrm wait there is someon on duty lemme call them [03:50] i can have them bounce it [03:51] imbrandon: query regarding federation from 13 hrs ago [03:51] TheMuso: do you have any clue where that website is? [03:51] crimsun, doh, dident see it, give me 5 minutes to do that [03:52] LaserJock: Sorry no, I just remember seeing it when I was getting my head around mutt configs. [03:52] Which was three years ago now./ [03:55] woot, had the staff on duty bounce the box for me and now its working [03:55] i love a 24 hour noc [03:55] crimsun, see query please [03:57] StevenK, ping [03:59] TheMuso: do you have an imap setup? [04:00] LaserJock: No, I use pop3. [04:01] hey, where is the live cd download for edgy, I cannot find it [04:01] :( [04:02] should be with all the others [04:03] I see desktop, server, and alternate [04:03] desktop = live [04:04] imbrandon: you don't mind if I play around & try & setup wanna-build/buildd/sbuild, do you? [04:04] might stick it with mini-dinstall [04:04] thanks [04:04] ajmitch, nope i dont mind at all, i'm gonna be working on the mirror [04:04] just fyi incase apt-get is locked [04:04] just give it a sec [04:04] right [04:04] or I might use anon ftp & a 5-minute cron job to stick things in the build queue === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] can we have it check sigs too to make sure only [04:05] sure [04:05] users [04:05] are allowed to build [04:05] I'll just borrow the code from revu [04:05] rockin [04:05] syncing the keyring should be easy enough [04:06] then maybe we can stick the results in ~/results for that user and i can sett apache up to expose those to the web [04:06] possibly [04:06] since it's not often that someone gets added to ubuntu-dev [04:06] right [04:06] keyring syncs can stay in cron [04:06] yea [04:06] like once a day or seomthing should be fine [04:06] same as on tiber === CarlF1 [n=carl@216-80-38-102.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] yea [04:07] i'm working on getting a kerbos server setup and unified /home [04:10] imbrandon: what are the specs on the i386 machine? [04:11] LaserJock, p4 2ghz 768mb ram 160gb / and 250bg /mirror [04:11] iirc [04:11] thats from memory [04:11] i could have to look to make sure [04:12] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz === ajmitch should probably do some ldap/kerberos setup [04:13] a shame I can't use my amd64 in the build network :) [04:13] hmm, 2.6 is still faster than my AMD 1800+ [04:13] ajmitch, yea i'm gonna make the kerberos server seperate nad JUST do kerberos and /mirror [04:13] darn it, why does gnome-panel keep dying?!? :( [04:13] so we can manage the /home and perms and such [04:13] from one boxen [04:14] instaead of 3 or 5 [04:14] but its up and working now, that was the main goal, then upgrade / tweak it from there [04:14] ;) [04:14] a pity you don't have a sparc in the local rack [04:15] yea that would kick ass [04:15] since sharing /home to .de will be a pain [04:15] eventualy i will [04:15] i will try to eventualy get all arches local [04:15] just need some $$ for ebay to pickup a sparc [04:15] etc [04:15] solicit donations [04:15] i might , i had thought about it [04:15] blog it baby! [04:16] i really need to put gigbit nics in them all to and put them on a 1000 switch alone [04:16] right now they are all connected to diffrent ports on the work cisco 100mb switch [04:17] gig between themselfs and then 100mb outbound [04:17] is what i wish [04:17] brb dew run [04:17] hehe [04:18] all that networking goodness made him thirsty [04:19] re [04:19] hehe [04:19] that was quick [04:19] fridge is closer now [04:19] :) [04:19] so how are you going to do kerberos? [04:19] bah, some days running Feisty on my "production" machine is just a pain [04:19] since you're doing it all with only ssh keys [04:19] hrm [04:20] true , honestly i hadent thought toooooo much about it, i just wanteto get a central server auth [04:20] might not be fesable [04:21] i borrowed 20gb from the work SAN tonight too [04:21] just to try to put /home on it but i dont think thats gonan be good [04:22] permissions dont work right on it [04:25] man my camera needs to take better pics [04:25] http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/imbrandon-rack.jpg [04:25] thats the rack [04:26] tis full but the one next to it is still empty hehe [04:27] the laptop below the switch ( about the middle ) is intrepid , the one below that ( 1u ) is my webserver voyager , and the 2u below that is aurora [04:27] the x86 [04:27] nice [04:27] tiny photo [04:27] above the switch is the SAN ;) [04:28] yea, stupid camera phone [04:28] we need to put a few funds together for a decent dual-core amd64 [04:29] yea i think right now the buildd network needs: more ram for the x86 , a amd64 , and a sparc localy , past tyhat we are set [04:29] i can pony up for a /home ( possibly auth too ) server [04:30] how much diskspace do you have for building? [04:30] where? on aurora about 130gb [04:30] if we're getting packages uploaded, or some way to request builds, you could go through a lot of space [04:30] true [04:31] hum [04:31] i could leave the mirror where it is and user /dev/sdb1 ( currently /mirror ) just for build uploads [04:31] eg a script to request a build (send gpg-signed mail to build@ubuntuwire.com, asking for package foo to be built for feisty) [04:32] its a 250gb drive , i dont really have to move the mirror onto aurora [04:32] its still on the same lan [04:32] disks are cheap to add [04:32] how many can you fit in aurora & the ppc? [04:32] cheap if there is room ;) [04:32] that's why I'm asking :) [04:33] seems that 320GB is about the best price/GB for now [04:33] ppc -0- its a laptop, aurora is a 2u so i could probably add 4 more disks but the controler thats in it atm dosent have any more sata space [04:33] ok [04:33] i have a shitload of disks and a few more pci controler [04:33] s [04:33] you'd want to do the building on a large, fast area [04:33] eg LVM on RAID [04:33] like I do at home [04:33] yea [04:34] ajmitch: 400s are almost on par with 320s now [04:34] hrm *thinks* [04:34] where /usr/local is mostly dedicated to ubuntu & debian work === LaserJock think ajmitch should just take one for the team and send imbrandon his box ;-) [04:34] hahaha [04:34] Lathiat: cool, I'd extend my RAID array if I could find a decent 4-port SATA controller :) [04:34] LaserJock: you want to cripple me, don't you? [04:34] i think im going to buy 8x400G drives === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] i ahve a 12 port sata controler here but i dunno if it would fit in the 2u box ;) [04:35] it's not like you do anything anyway ;p === ajmitch probably couldn't afford the power bill for that many drives === LaserJock hides [04:35] LaserJock: true === ajmitch resigns from all the teams & revokes his key [04:35] nooo [04:35] I just upgraded to a 160GB ATA drive \o/ [04:35] heh i have 4x 160gb in my desktop now [04:36] sata === ajmitch only has 3x250 [04:36] a few months ago i had 1 to 0 in it ( it died and i was strapped ) [04:36] I've never seen a sata drive or a RAID setup [04:36] silly chemists [04:36] I suppose I could make do with just my laptop [04:36] we'd rather have lasers than cool computers [04:36] if I cleaned up the drive a bit === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945681.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [04:37] no way [04:37] hm? [04:37] hrm if i reconfigured auroa i could add 6 drives total , and i have another 2 port card here that will work [04:37] and a 12 that /might/ fit [04:37] a 12? [04:37] ajmitch: you need you're cool desktop machine [04:37] and a few 160GB [04:37] drives [04:37] and 2 250's [04:38] LaserJock: sure, and it would cost more than the machine is worth to send it anywhere :) [04:38] ajmitch, yea i have one 12 port sata controler [04:38] imbrandon: send it my way [04:38] dunno if it will fit in the 2u though [04:38] PCI? [04:38] yea [04:38] you'd think it'd easily saturate the PCI buss [04:38] imbrandon: all of my patches for KTorrent have already been accepted and uploaded, so here is you poke for backporting :) [04:38] nixternal, uploaded to the archive or -proposed? [04:39] archive [04:39] ajmitch, yea [04:39] I could understand having a 12-port PCIe controller [04:39] possibly [04:39] standard PCI does up to 133MB/s, iirc [04:39] it might be a pci-e i could ahve to look honestly, but i have a pci-e slot in the 2u [04:39] so either way it would work === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] the big thing is getting power and space [04:40] dunno how many drive the powersuppy will take up [04:40] surely it would do 6 though [04:40] imbrandon: what size psu? [04:40] man , i'm half tempted to drive to ATC and do this tonight [04:40] For developing Debian packages, is it better to have 'install' or 'cp' lines in the Makefile? [04:40] 450+ will do 12 drives [04:40] nixternal: ping [04:41] jdong: pong [04:41] nixternal: regarding KTorrent 2.1.x do you think we should pursue those changes in Feisty? [04:41] jdong: dunno, we can try though [04:41] nixternal: they do seem to improve heavy-traffic performance significantly [04:41] imbrandon: I've run 5 drives in my box & seen it peak at 180W only when booting up [04:41] seeing as Feisty has been patched [04:41] i.e. LAN or high speed net transfers.... [04:41] jdong: so I have noticed [04:41] ajmitch, nice [04:41]